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								uh


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								I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.


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								the masks, or behind, you know, proper testing, or behind the six-foot distancing, the two-meter distancing, or behind these shots, right, this technology that has never been used widely.


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								None of that is over.


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								And as Sasha Lateefa pointed out this morning, you know, these were military operations, but they were global military operations, right?


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								Every country had exactly the same narrative.


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								I was fortunate to be able to travel during COVID because I had natural immunity.


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								Having had it for two days, I took ivermectin, I was fine.


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								And so I saw, you know, two meters, masks, you know, be afraid, stay at home, lockdown, you know, schools closed, businesses tanked.


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								All of that was on a global basis.


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								Think, but you can tell if someone's lying.


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								You know, you can sort of feel it in people.


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								And I have lied.


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								I'm sure I'll lie again.


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								I don't want to lie.


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								You know, I don't think I'm a liar.


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								I try not to be a liar.


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								I don't want to be a liar.


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								I think it's like really important not to be a liar.


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								Think, but you can tell if someone's lying.


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								You know, you can sort of feel it in people.


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								And I have lied.


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								I'm sure I'll lie again.


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								I don't want to lie, you know?


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								I don't think I'm a liar.


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								I try not to be a liar.


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								I don't want to be a liar.


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								I think it's, like, really important not to be a liar.


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								I think truth is good for kids.


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								We're so busy lying, we don't even recognize the truth no more in this society.


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								We want everybody to feel good.


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								That's not the way life is.


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								I don't care how you get there.


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								I don't care what you do to get there.


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								The goal is to win.


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								What time is it?


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								Game time!


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								Woo!


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								Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.


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								Happy Independence Day.


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								It's the 4th of July, and it says it's the 2nd of July on Twitch, and I don't care, because I'm staying focused on the biology.


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								I'm not taking the bait on social media.


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								I'm not even trying to make stuff.


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								for social media anymore.


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								I'm trying to do it for myself and for my kids on my own website and in my own archive and I'm doing it because I know it needs to be done.


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								But if you're not doing something to subvert social media to


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								try and spread this message on social media, you should probably get off.


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								I know there are other messages to spread on social media, but the biggest one should be to get off of social media.


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								And if you're going to use your time on a computer and on the internet, what you ought to be doing is trying to establish your presence on regular, you know,


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								trying to get on a federated type thing you don't have to be on my soapbox you can be on mastodon and any web server around the world that does that and then get people using that system it's a it's a way of getting off of this their algorithm and start to follow who you want to follow because autism spectrum disorder is a myth that's used


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								to make sure that intramuscular injection is never questioned as a methodology, that virology is never questioned as a science, that public health is never questioned as a reason.


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								And the pandemic and gain of function are mythologies that have been tacked on top of it.


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								It's kind of like a one-two punch.


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								Everybody that needed to be was set up at the beginning to understand the mythology of autism spectrum disorder and vaccine mythology in a certain way and then they were all propelled through the pandemic and now we're out on the other side and we haven't learned anything.


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								And we're still in danger of teaching this mythology to our children if we don't learn the truth.


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								And that's really the reality of it.


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								We need to learn the truth.


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								We need to be able to teach our children why the cheese is free on social media.


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								We need to be able to teach our children how the acquiescence to social media allows people to coordinatedly lie to us.


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								And it's a lot like the guy in that subway where he's faking the stopping and the starting of the train, but it allows hundreds of people to perform that act and make you participate in something that's an absolute illusion.


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								Biology is way out, and GigaOM Biological is the biology that so far they seem to ignore.


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								I'm very happy to be here.


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								It is Friday and I'm very glad for that because after this stream is over with I will be chillin.


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								I will be chillaxin.


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								I will be going for maximum chill factor.


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								It's gonna be a nice afternoon.


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								The gym isn't open.


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								I've taken a few days.


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								It's too many days.


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								My phone has this incredible lack of red dots.


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								on the calendar and it's driving me bananas.


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								Shout out to Housatonicits.com and Housatonic Live.


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								I love that guy.


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								And shout out to the Biophenom, Biology Phenom sub stack about the murder and manslaughter in Scotland.


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								Please share it because it will shock Americans and then Americans might think well, what the hell did they do here?


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								Americans might wake up to the fact if they see it how awful it is in and how obvious it is in At this substack and in those videos and in those testimonies maybe Americans will think again about maybe we maybe maybe we need to figure out what the truth is and maybe social media


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								Social media is not like these sunglasses, but rather gigaohm is like these sunglasses.


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								If you, if you allow...


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								me or someone like me or Mark to help you approach social media the right way.


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								Don't worry.


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								I think we can pull our kids out.


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								Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd like an early COVIDsurvivors.com bumper sticker for your car or water bottle, if you'd like a take a home biological biologies the way velcro back patch of which I still have like


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								190 of and I ordered 200 of them.


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								So seriously, somebody send a self-addressed stamped envelope to Dr. J at P.O.


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								Box 802, Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, 15102.


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								And let me send you a few stickers and see where you can put them.


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								Anyway, this is a message from an American in the back of his garage in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.


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								And I just want to make sure that everybody understands


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								Those stickers came from somebody we know that I think V's Bees will put in the chat.


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								Look at how the bird stays focused.


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								You see this bird, this particular bird, watch him stay focused.


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								Oh man.


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								So what we try to do at Gigo and Biological is stay focused like these birds.


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								I don't know what kind of bird this is.


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								I'm not a real big bird fan.


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								I don't know anything about birds.


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								But I think this is a fish-eating eagle of some kind.


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								and this bird is focused and he's focused on the biology in front of him he's focused on the task at hand and we need to do that as well and social media is designed exactly if this eagle was trying to to catch his food on social media he'd never catch a fish right


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								And so I think that's the way you need to realize social media is being used against us.


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								And quite frankly, we need to get good at surfing it so that we can get our kids good at surfing it.


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								And the only way to get good at surfing social media is to understand what it is.


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								understand how the advertising works, the subtle messaging, the coordinated lying across platforms and podcasts, you're not going to be able to see how amazing the illusion is if you're not aware that Sam Seder is scripted by the same people that are scripting Brett Weinstein in the Rubin Report and also Tim Pool.


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								Now,


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								If you've been here for a while, you're at the top of the wave.


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								We haven't always been surfing as well as we're surfing now, but yes, we are doing it good because we stay focused on the biology.


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								It works if you don't take their bait on social media.


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								And loving your neighbors is a great idea because then you got people to sit around the campfire with.


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								You got people to barbecue with.


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								You've got people to borrow sugar from.


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								Ladies and gentlemen, this is GigaOM Biological where RNA cannot pandemic intramuscular injection.


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								It's dumb.


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								Transfection is a crime and the population pyramids are real.


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								I'm kind of a Star Trek fan.


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								I've always kind of been a Star Trek fan.


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								I don't mind all that stuff.


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								Sci-fi in general, I think is really interesting because it sparks the imagination.


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								I'm gonna let you in on a really big secret.


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								I was also a really good dungeon master back in the day.


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								I used to be able to run a hell of a campaign.


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								And I'm not ashamed of that.


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								It's one of those things where you realize right now, in the current place that we're in, one of the things that they are destroying in our children is their imagination.


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								And I can see it happening in my own house.


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								And it's hard to get a handle on what to do about it, especially if the only person that


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								that is available to do anything about it is you.


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								So if you're working at home or worst case scenario, obviously what most people are doing is they're working outside of their home.


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								So when their kids are at home on summer vacation and they're occupying their time with roadblocks or Fortnite or whatever the latest garbage is that's on that screen, inevitably you have this problem where


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								You can say that we had this when we were kids and I watched the A-Team and I got up in the morning on Saturdays and watched cartoons from like 6.30 in the morning until 10.


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								But social media is just different.


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								Social media is just different and I hope that anybody who's watching this show has already become aware of their own habits and their own vulnerabilities on social media and how easy it is to create the illusion of consensus that there are a bunch of people who agree about something and getting sucked into something like that can be as


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								as innocent as buying a cheap thing from somewhere that nobody bought before but you, to actually participating in the slow dissolving of our sovereignty and our slow transition to experimental animal status.


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								I'm very excited to be here, as I said, because this is


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								It's the 4th of July.


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								It's a great day in America.


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								It's going to be a great day in Pittsburgh.


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								And I don't know what we're going to do today, but we're probably going to grill out.


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								I'm probably going to drink a beer.


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								I'm definitely going to sit in my front yard and burn a fire and watch people drive by and wave the American flag and say hello.


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								because it's just a good day.


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								There are lots of people down the street who are gonna shoot fireworks and we can see those through the trees.


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								It's nothing.


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								Let me just say that the house that we were renting to own during the pandemic that we lost as a result of the pandemic was a house on three acres on the top of a hill that directly overlooked essentially


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								the park, although you couldn't see it because there were too many trees, overlooked the park where the local pool was and also where they shoot the fireworks from.


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								So the fireworks exploded


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								I mean, to a certain extent, directly above our house.


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								And then if the wind was right, the still almost burning embers would land in our backyard.


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								And we had this beautiful slope behind our house that led to a campsite and another 10 acres that was technically owned by one person, but that person didn't even live in the county.


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								And so there was a lot of wild woods behind my house, too.


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								It was arguably one of the best houses in Pittsburgh, probably, given that it was like a hundred year old rock house with a stone roof.


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								It would probably be a little cramped for us right now.


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								But in a lot of ways, that place was ideal for the pandemic.


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								And so I can only assume that somehow or another, I got tremendously lucky by starting to occupy that house and thinking that we would have it for the three years when we most needed it.


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								And then somehow or another found ourselves on the opposite side of the city, not so happy about where we are, but in a house that's perfect for this work that I'm doing now and closest to one of the nicest basketball gyms on earth.


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								And I've found my way back to basketball and


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								I have high hopes that I'm going to be essentially a professional athlete because I will be teaching biology on a basketball court very soon and if I can turn that into something worthwhile,


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								this will have all worked out in a really weird and odd and beautiful way.


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								So I'm very very excited about being where we are and luckily being in America because I do think in the next five or six or ten years there's going to be a lot of world history that none of us can really predict although a lot of us have some good guesses and the continued deterioration of


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								life in Europe.


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								I'm not sure how that's going to go.


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								I don't know if there are certain countries that are going to go bad.


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								But I do know that where we live right now in Pittsburgh and everything, knock on wood, is okay.


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								And things are going okay.


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								And that means that we have enough stability on this raft to try and make things go better.


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								And so that's my goal for the next


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								I don't know, six months or so, and then we're gonna see where we are in six months.


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								And that's worked already for six years.


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								It is in July of 2020 that I first found myself able to succinctly say that they were misconstruing a background with spread.


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								And the way that I explained it at the time in July of 2020 was that there are lots of viruses, and there are lots of SARS-like viruses that have been found and reported over the last 20 years, and we've never really monitored them.


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								And in a way, I was kind of describing it correctly.


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								I was just still using their nomenclature for that background.


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								SARS viruses, MERS viruses, coronaviruses, flavoviruses, whatever.


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								All those things, all they all are essentially at this stage in time because of the Human Genome Project and the prevalence of the use of recombinant DNA and also the use of PCR, all these things ever are are genetic signals in the background.


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								And so they can call them different things and they can claim that they have these different specificities and this different fields of understanding and, you know, different degrees of


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								Fidelity of understanding in these different things, but the bottom line is is that now modern virology Always starts with a sequence.


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								So all they have to do is tell you they found something and they can start working on it so if DARPA wanted Peter Daszak to start working on a a What they thought would be a self-transmitting RNA Bioweapon then they could take a guy like Peter Daszak claim that he found the sequence make a


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								impossible to otherwise find pure and large quantity of that DNA and put it in places and see what happens.


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								And that's the extraordinary fact that leaves people like that guy in the big square there, Mike Eden, in kind of a shitty position because the bottom line is I didn't put the green screen down.


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								I'll do that now if you don't mind.


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								This doesn't take very long, it's just a magnet.


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								That's what leaves Mike Eden in such a weird position because the deal is that Mike Eden knows how protein biologics are made.


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								Mike Eden is a self-confessed pharmaceutical executive and pharmaceutical scientist who sold a couple companies and worked for Pfizer for 20 years and worked on respiratory disease.


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								And so it's important that we're especially


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								especially scrutinous of his position because he has all of the credentials essentially to be an insider that Robert Malone does just from a different angle.


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								Has the same credentials to be an insider as somebody like Jonathan Engler or Nick Hudson or even Denny Rancor, all of whom have expertise which should suggest that they should understand some things like, I don't know, a population pyramid.


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								And yet all of them seem to not be able to pick up on that even after three years of having it badgered into their head.


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								And so their purposeful ignoring of the story that we've been telling, the story that we're trying to push, all puts them in jeopardy in terms of being outed as part of the same team that's curating a worst-case scenario story


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								And making sure that nobody comes to understand the real goal here was to get everybody to accept PCR as a diagnostic.


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								To accept sequencing of remnants as just something that's done, and there's lots of companies that buy remnants for that, we don't care.


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								And to get people to ignore the murder.


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								and to make sure that people didn't understand that this expected rise in all-cause mortality was going to cause a rise in numbers, was going to cause a rise in hospital deaths, was going to cause a rise in old folks' homes' deaths.


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								And so they had an opportunity to use it.


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								And this is not an idea that's so sophisticated that somebody like Mike Eden doesn't understand it, especially since I've told it to him before.


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								He's been on my stream with Paul Alexander, where we talked about the fact that the only place that you can make these large quantities of pure DNA, which are perfect PCR positives, is at a pharmaceutical level.


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								Pharmaceutical companies have the possibility of making grams of DNA.


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								It's harder to do that in an academic lab.


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								That's why they have this commercial process down to a science.


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								So the only thing necessary to do modern virology is this recombinant DNA technology of growing mass quantities of plasmids in bacteria that was basically honed to a fine science by the prerogatives of the Human Genome Project.


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								That's why genome collector Craig Craig is involved.


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								That's why NATO scientists


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								Jessica Rose is involved.


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								That's why the former Research and Development Director of the Human Genome Project is involved.


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								That's why the guy from Gabi is involved.


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								That's why


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								a glyphosate scientist from MIT is involved.


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								That's why a country doctor who's an expert on anthrax vaccines is involved.


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								That's why a guy like this who was selling biometric surveillance to New York prisons in 2019 is involved.


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								That's why this guy who has DITRA and DOMAIN and Zika and Ebola and Novio and


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								and Amerithrax and all kinds of other shit on his resume, including transfection about 40 times, is involved.


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								And so it gets to be tough after a while if Mike Eden has run in circles with Sasha Latupova repeatedly, has written substacks that are critical of me, calling me JJ like all these other people do, even after he was on my stream and I explained to him how this was done.


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								And he had no commentary for it, even though, of course, you remember that Sukrit Bhakti said he didn't disagree with anything I said.


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								It's just that now that we know that RNA can't pandemic, we shouldn't talk about it anymore.


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								These people were all put in place.


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								And if you watch the Oracle Films interview of Mike Yeadon, I'd like you to go and take notes and watch it.


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								See if you can come away with an opinion that Mike Yeadon is okay.


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								There's already a couple of sub stacks written about it.


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								There's already notes on it and every, you know, highlights is already done on one of these anonymous sub stacks or another.


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								And so it's all out there already.


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								I suggest that over the weekend, if you're bored, you spend some time and take some notes and see if you can hear him calling these people out by name, calling these people out by name and not only calling them out by name, but specifically sticking to the script


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								Because again, he's kind of saying there are no viruses.


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								And he says it by saying that these people do great work.


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								And he loops Stefan Lanka in with all of these people, and that's really an illusion.


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								Because Stefan Lanka has a


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								very specific set of objections and experiments that he's credited with.


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								Stefan Lanka was also, I believe, questioning HIV.


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								These people were not so elegant.


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								These people were not so precise.


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								And I think, beyond a shadow of a doubt, what condemns these people as traitors is that in 2023, under the auspices of being a staff scientist at


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								Children's Health Defense under the auspices of Brian Hooker and Mary Holland.


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								I approached these people and explained to them.


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								that virology was a fraud, but not quite the way you're saying it.


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								There may be viruses, there may not be viruses, there are definitely exosomes, and there are definitely phages.


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								But what I also know for sure is that pharmaceutical companies and any other interest like that, including an academic interest, would have the facilities necessary to produce large quantities of pure DNA.


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								And large quantities of pure DNA are the perfect PCR positive.


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								Large quantities of DNA are how they start these virology experiments.


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								And so I argued that these people could join forces with CHD and together they could explain how infectious clones is the fraud, because infectious clones is just transfection and transformation.


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								And they actually threw it out.


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								They asked for citations.


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								They said infectious clones are fake.


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								You don't know what you're talking about.


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								Send us the papers.


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								And then they did a five person talk that said that I was a shithead and didn't really answer any questions at all because they're all part of the same show.


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								I'm sorry.


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								The problem with them and the problem for them is me, because I am perhaps the only person who has had sufficient interaction with all of them because they have thrown them all at me.


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								That's why I can say that Jessica Hockett and Nick Hudson and Jonathan Engler didn't even start working on me until 2023, because in 2022, I presented three times to their organization, Panda, and they didn't post any of those lectures anywhere on their Rumble channel.


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								And then in 2023, these three people started working on me right before the book was done.


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								trying to get me to write a virology review with them and stuff.


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								And Jessica Hockett turns out to be one of the biggest liars in America.


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								I don't know what her real name is.


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								Maybe it's Faber.


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								I've heard that before.


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								But these guys from South Africa and from England are nasty.


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								This is a retired pharma exec who got a law degree in his retirement.


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								This is an actuary who's never told you about population pyramids and about how there was an anticipated rise in all-cause mortality across the West.


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								This guy has never said that.


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								And of course she hasn't either, but she's been able to have multiple interactions on Substack with Pierre Cory, the oxygen fraud in New York.


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								The guy who was the medical witness for the George Floyd trial that said he definitely suffocated from the cop.


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								And then there are people who have inspired a lot of thought for me, people like J.J.


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								Cooey, you know, who's regarded by a few people as, by some people as sort of this kind of savant or idiot or something, that his ideas are just too terrible and too incompatible with the biology that they learned.


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								And in many ways, you know, they are.


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								So the key to see is that whenever anybody mentions me, they don't actually say what the idea is.


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								They don't actually say what I've said, and he doesn't say it there.


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								J.J.


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								Cooley's take is pretty good, but what is J.J.


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								Cooley's take, and why is it different than everybody else's?


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								And of course, his interviewer, who is none other than Germ Warfare in that particular video, his interviewer is a shithead too.


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								And they got caught on Twitter when I did my interview with Germ Warfare.


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								Germ Warfare said it would take him three weeks to release the interview, but he doesn't cut anything.


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								He just needs to get it up to production levels and stuff.


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								And then in the first week before he released the video, Nick Hudson actually tried to start tweeting that intramuscular injection is dumb.


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								And I quoted it on Twitter and then I said that this is stolen from the Germ Warfare podcast because the first time I ever said this was on the Germ Warfare podcast.


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								I never said it so clearly.


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								So it's pretty remarkable.


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								Sorry.


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								Because they walked right into my trap.


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								And I'm not some kind of master, you know, intelligence agent.


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								I'm just a guy who suspected that somebody who says that he has wine with Nick Hudson every couple of weeks, um, in South Africa, if he's going to interview me and then says it takes three weeks to release the video.


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								Huh?


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								I wonder if I say something clever, if somebody will try and steal it.


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								And sure enough, Nick tried to steal it.


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								Oh, brilliant.


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								Nice.


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								So anyway, not to whine about that.


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								I don't care about it.


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								I don't care about the stealing if they stole something real.


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								Nick Hudson, and went with it, you know, if Nick Hudson said, yeah, I heard it from Jay, or yeah, I heard it from Germ Warfare, but he must've heard it from Jay because he just interviewed him.


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								I don't care.


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								Keep saying intramuscular injection is dumb.


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								But he didn't keep saying it, you see.


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								That's the problem.


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								If he kept saying it, eventually somebody would remind him that, yeah, I guess you got that from Jay.


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								But that's not what he did.


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								And he's never said it again, because if he did, then he would be spreading the truth that's not in this script.


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								And remember that Nick Hudson of Panda was off the coast of Turkey in a boat with Robert Malone and his wife and a bunch of other of these dissidents for a whole week in 2022.


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								This is a coordinated group of liars that's had several international meetings.


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								He was also on stage in Romania at the end of 2023 in November with Steve Hatfield standing in front of him.


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								Nick Hudson is one of the worst actors in this joke.


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								I mean, all you really have to do is have a bunch of organizations that are dissonant organizations, like I've shown in that group, and make sure that all the good ideas get sucked up and stolen and obfuscated by the front-facing dipshits, and it's all fine.


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								You know, Nick never promotes any of the ideas that he gets from Panda as who taught him them or who said it.


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								You know, even though they're inviting, during the pandemic, they were inviting people like three times a week.


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								You know, he just tweets because I'm smart.


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								I tweet because I'm smart.


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								That's how he tweets all the time.


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								So it's unfortunate that it's probably true that somehow or another these people have been absorbed into the narrative control apparatus.


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								Is he a coerced guy?


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								Is he unfortunate?


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								You know, it's like he upset.


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								Like, I didn't expect it to last this long.


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								You guys have really screwed this up.


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								This is the last video I'm gonna do.


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								Cause there's a couple of times when he said it was the last video he's gonna do.


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								Now this one's the final warning.


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								It's all about digital ID.


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								And so again, this guy who has all this biological background, you're going to see it.


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								He doesn't teach anything about the biology.


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								He doesn't clear anything up.


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								He is not very specific about anything, even though he has the requisite knowledge to be very specific and to teach it well, like I try to do every day.


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								But no, he's not going to do that because that's not in his script.


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								I think he's on Robert Malone's script just because, you know, that one really important video of his.


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								Look at what's on the microphone.


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								It's a CHD microphone recording him in London while he walks down the, walks down the, the,


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								the sidewalk.


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								It's pretty obvious to me that we're in big trouble.


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								These guys should make it pretty obvious to you that we're in big trouble.


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								The scripted bullshit that we talk about all the time.


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								Now, wouldn't it be funny if around 2017, around that same time when Brett Weinstein's finding his stride in March and getting in trouble with the students, in 2017, wouldn't it be funny if this guy also kind of had his start and got promoted and got sort of his first big public appearance in 2017?


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								His Wikipedia is really interesting.


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								Just like in the article.


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								So again, remember Brett Weinstein just kind of pretended to take this guy to task But he's not really taking anybody to task if you stir first don't look into his image and his track record and what he does And what he his image and his track record is completely manufactured.


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								This is one of the most of fake pseudo Americans on social media right now


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								This is a guy whose Wikipedia says he was raised in a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio before moving outside of Chicago in northern Indiana.


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								Supposedly he grew up in LaPorte, Indiana.


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								I grew up for a little while in Michigan City, Indiana and my dad taught in LaPorte.


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								Isn't that interesting?


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								Anyway, I don't think we actually crossed paths, but if we had, I would have been dressed on a bicycle with a radio strapped to the front wearing a Cubs batting hat, pretending to be Poncharello.


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								So it would have been an interesting meeting.


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								Anyway, let's see.


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								His parents immigrated from India.


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								So if you read that, normally a Wikipedia reads, Jonathan Cooley was born in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin.


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								But this one reads, Persaud was raised in a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio.


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								Now what's interesting, if you go to that previous page over here, and you look at this article, if you read this article, it uses exactly the same wording.


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								He was raised in a suburb of Cleveland, Ohio.


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								His parents immigrated from India.


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								So they don't actually say he was born in Cleveland, Ohio because he wasn't.


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								And so rather than just being honest and straightforward about who he is as a man, he's lying about it.


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								He's being a little cheeky with it.


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								Now, what I find interesting is to think about the timeline that we're on and the fact that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.


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								in 2025 is head of health and human services secretary.


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								Marty McCary is the head of the FDA and he's not even an American citizen, like he's a dual citizen.


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								And this Prasad guy was on social media.


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								And so if you go to his Wikipedia page


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								You will see that, can you see my arrow here?


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								He was appointed on May 6th, 2025, made Director of the U.S.


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								Food and Drug Administration's Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research.


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								Now, CBER is most certainly the branch of the FDA that would have the authority to go back to 2020 and figure out what happened, especially with regard to the 220 EUA-granted PCR diagnostic tests.


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								That's a lot of different products.


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								That's a lot of unregulated remnants, and where did they go?


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								And who of those FDA, EUA-granted products were used at big campuses like Ohio State, or Indiana, or Illinois?


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								where there could be as many as 40 or 50,000 students subjected to regular testing.


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								And then where did those remnants go?


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								And were the tests that they were using even valid or were they just to create the remnants in the first place?


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								And that could all be investigated by the FDA.


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								if the director and the head of CBER was interested in doing that.


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								But of course, these two cancer biologists, cancer doctors, are not interested in that.


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								They are interested in faster approval.


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								They're interested in cancer drugs.


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								They're interested in the farmer's market that they have in the square outside of the FDA building.


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								These people are complete frauds.


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								Now, it would be hard for me to say that without very much evidence, but I think that the


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								the last five years on the internet is littered with evidence.


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								Now, if you remember what I just showed you on his Wikipedia, this man was appointed to his post on May the 6th of this year, and on April 23rd, he did this podcast.


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								And VP, we are motherfucking live.


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								I have to get the motherfucking out quick, just so people know, don't play this.


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								What kind of show is this?


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								This is that kind of show.


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								You look like Elon Musk at a Trump rally.


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								We're gonna go to Mars, my friend.


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								Shout out to Timothy Olivier.


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								I think he gave me this jacket a few years ago.


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								No, I'm having a bad hair day, so I had to put a hat on.


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								You ever have those?


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								It's easy.


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								Every day is a bad hair day for me, man.


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								I was born with bad hair.


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								You know, actually, when I had hair, it was bad.


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								Oh, really?


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								I'm telling you that one week before he was appointed to the FDA, he did this podcast.


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								He has decent hair.


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								But in mine, we became this crazy dense thing.


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								I used to tell the woman to thin it and I would pray, could it please get thinner?


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								And I got my prayer.


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								One day I was like, damn it.


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								This prayer has come true.


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								Prayer is, why was God real?


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								All this time I just assumed he wasn't.


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								Or they, actually God's pronouns are they, them, those.


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								Those are now pronouns not allowed in department.


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								the defense.


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								So they got rid of pronouns there?


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								And I think that the press secretary, if the reporter has pronouns in their bio, they won't reply.


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								They won't.


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								They won't reply.


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								You know, it's so funny.


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								Like sometimes these guys blow people up and sometimes these guys blow people up.


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								So the left had their way for how many years?


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								Now the right's doing their thing.


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								It's just reaction, counter reaction, reaction, counter reaction.


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								You have to see that we are under attack.


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								America has been subverted.


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								The FDA is absolutely


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								useless and we have traders at the top, posers at the top, people who have been told since maybe 2017 that we're going to make something of you, we're going to use you, just like they told Brett Weinstein.


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								And now we are eight years later, and this is where we are.


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								Eight years later, and this is where we are.


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								One week before he's appointed to the FDA, where he becomes some kind of podcast host, I guess, and gives a couple, you know, good presentations, because that's what he's been practicing for the last 10 years.


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								This fraud, foreign born fraud,


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								is at the head of the only agency in America that could reverse the ridiculous behavior of our society for the last five years by going back and reevaluating what they gave EUAs to and whether or not any of those products were worth what they did.


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								Because if they didn't do anything, then we have a very big problem on our hands.


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								There was an awful lot of fraud going on.


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								And more importantly, the whole idea of PCR as a diagnostic, which is still just an accepted thing.


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								There's no more regulation of it.


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								Because it's, you know, these products come out and they're not supposed to be the only diagnostic.


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								It's also supposed to be combined with the doctor's, you know, observations of the patient, yada, yada, yada.


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								So they're not really a high fidelity diagnostic.


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								They're not claimed to be.


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								There's nothing that says it on the box, but the doctors are using it that way.


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								You heard Mary Talley Bowden say it in the interview that she did with me three years ago.


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								Well, now I have one in my office that does 17 different viruses.


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								That's the world of duality, as we say in the spiritual-industrial complex, or SIC.


								41:53.240 --> 41:54.621

								Well, look at all these comments already.


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								It got thinner.


								41:56.363 --> 41:57.684

								I don't know what that means, Sophia.


								41:58.205 --> 42:02.089

								Are you talking about, are you like from Silence of the Lambs?


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								She's like, it gets thinner or it gets the hose again.


								42:08.149 --> 42:09.150

								Man, it's been a minute though.


								42:09.170 --> 42:09.850

								It's been a long time.


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								How many months has it been?


								42:11.051 --> 42:11.892

								We were just having dinner.


								42:11.952 --> 42:13.313

								The show was a surprise.


								42:13.393 --> 42:16.315

								It was a side hustle from dinner because we were like, let's hang out.


								42:16.535 --> 42:20.919

								And contrary to popular belief, Vinay and I are friends and we hang out.


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								We just don't necessarily want to make shows all the time.


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								We don't always record what we're saying.


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								That's right, because we would go to jail.


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								Yeah, probably.


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								And at least be canceled.


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								It can't be a record of every conversation, yeah.


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								Yeah, Ashley likes her jacket.


								42:32.750 --> 42:34.993

								She says, I feel the bad hair days, my hair is so thick.


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								See, you have thick hair too.


								42:36.715 --> 42:39.839

								It is very thick and poofy, so sometimes it doesn't.


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								You know, you do yoga, right?


								42:41.501 --> 42:46.487

								They're using a very expensive microphone that actually has a two-way condenser there, so it's like got...


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								You know, this side and the other side, it's like made for a conversation, so it's a very nice mic.


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								That's why they're sitting so close together, too.


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								They don't realize they don't need to be quite that close to the condenser, but they do need to be about that close.


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								A little less, maybe, but...


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								I do, I do.


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								That's what keeps me so flexible.


								43:05.067 --> 43:08.149

								You look like one of those guys that you see on like a National Geographic.


								43:09.069 --> 43:13.472

								You can hear they kind of balanced it so that if they're facing the camera, it's fine.


								43:13.512 --> 43:16.114

								But when they face each other, they're actually overloading it.


								43:16.154 --> 43:17.475

								You can hear it clip a little bit.


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								Also using an autofocus camera, which works if there's only one thing to focus on, but not if you have the face recognition and there's two faces and it keeps going to the background in front.


								43:37.094 --> 43:41.297

								Ken, what we're dealing with here is incredible arrogance.


								43:41.737 --> 43:46.500

								They know that they're going to win because they've been winning for the last five years.


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								Everything they say wins.


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								They get in newspaper articles like they were promised.


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								They're getting all the views like they promised.


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								He loves it.


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								I think I'm the most flexible person.


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								I think my advantage is probably upper body strength.


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								Because a lot of people who do yoga are, I mean, some of the best people are women, of course.


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								Women are usually lower body strength, like roof, but upper body strength is... So what kind of poses are you typically strong at with upper body then?


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								I could hold plank for several minutes.


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								We should do a live plank off.


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								Was that was that a video was that a movie with John Travolta plank off plank off?


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								Oh my god, that should be okay.


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								Yeah, so you can do planks.


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								That's good I realized I realized if I don't look at the camera the focus is focused its face detecting and it sees side faces It's like I don't know what to do some guys at least I have to keep staring at the camera AI is not as good as it needs to be doesn't have I doesn't have I it just has a You know, a lot of people don't have I


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								Real people.


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								The eye is the part we've been looking for a long time.


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								Let's launch into that.


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								Let's launch into that.


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								It's funny, because we have a different regime now running health and human services and healthcare.


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								And people are saying, like, it's all very much on political lines, like people who hated the response to COVID are rejoicing.


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								People who thought- People like me.


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								Let's not forget.


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								The VP.


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								Oh, people like me.


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								See how cocky he is?


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								He already knows, because he already knew back in 2020 that he had the chance.


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								that he was auditioning.


								45:13.141 --> 45:18.845

								And this guy probably thinks he was auditioning to it, that they just chose his friend, but that's pretty much a win for him.


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								That's where we are.


								45:22.368 --> 45:24.109

								Jay Bhattacharya, the same thing.


								45:24.169 --> 45:25.750

								He was on Robert Malone's script.


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								That's why he told me three times in person to stop naming names and specifically stop naming Robert Malone's name.


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								That's why Mary Holland of Children's Health Defense told Brian Hooker to fire me because of the one minute section in my,


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								in my December 22nd podcast where I questioned whether Robert Malone was really a supporter of CHD and Robert F. Kennedy or not.


								45:47.206 --> 45:50.148

								And that was still at a time when I thought Robert F. Kennedy was a good guy.


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								This is a disaster for them because I can't explain succinctly why they are all frauds.


								45:59.475 --> 46:04.018

								And it sucks for them because I'm in Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'


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								's book and there's no way to explain it any other way.


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								Why the hell is my name in that book and not Charles Rixey, not Kevin McKernan?


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								Why the hell am I in the index?


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								Why am I in the cast of characters?


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								Why do I have quotes in that book that say they wouldn't even need a virus?


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								Because it's the truth.


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								and maybe because Robert F. Kennedy Jr.


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								is just a tool, and so they didn't realize that I got it in.


								46:34.673 --> 46:42.419

								Why is the Sina Bavari and Allison Totura paper in that book, and nobody realizes that that's an admission in and of itself?


								46:46.822 --> 46:52.325

								Because they're all on a really shitty script, and most of them probably unaware of how shitty the script is.


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								They're just really happy they got a job at the FDA.


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								And I actually don't care at all.


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								It's very strange.


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								Like my whole set of belief structures has kind of just been like, yeah, I don't know.


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								Not a fan of RFK, I've said that publicly.


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								But what I think we could talk about is where is the actual intelligence in general on either political side in terms of doing science?


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								Let's just take vaccine.


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								So everybody's talking about now, okay, measles is happening.


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								Go right to the hard stuff.


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								Because you can talk about,


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								your moral beliefs around these things, and oh my God, there's conspiracies of this, or we should mask everybody or give every infant child a COVID vaccine, or we could actually go, well, how would you actually design a trial or actually look at this to see what should we do?


								47:36.769 --> 47:37.490

								That's a good question.


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								So which vaccine should we talk about?


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								I think a fall COVID-19 shot maybe.


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								Okay.


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								I mean, what I would do is I would say- What's the current recommendation, by the way?


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								The last year's recommendation by a gentleman named Peter Marks, who's currently probably shopping his CV around a few companies.


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								I got a CV.


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								He wants to be my gaffer.


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								Is it going to work for Moderna or Pfizer or both or all of the above?


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								Well, it was based on, first of all, he picked a strain to target based on an analogy to purchasing milk.


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								So, you know, obviously it was very scientific there.


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								He's like, we could go after this strain or that strain.


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								But when I go to the milk case, I like to get the most recent jug of milk.


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								That's what he said?


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								That's what he said, yeah.


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								And that is the strength of the recommendation.


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								So imagine if we managed HIV that way, it would just be like the slogan would be Got AIDS?


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								Got AIDS.


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								So that's disturbing, but okay, keep going.


								48:36.327 --> 48:40.269

								Well anyway, so they, it's been a while since I talked about these topics, or even cared.


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								Now if you really see it as a script, it then becomes very interesting that he brings up AIDS of all things.


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								If you really see it as a script, they were just talking about measles, but now he went and jumped with AIDS.


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								That's because he knows that's something that needs to be hit.


								48:56.932 --> 48:57.973

								And what's being hit there?


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								AIDS is real.


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								That's what they just said and agreed on.


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								AIDS is real.


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								about these topics.


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								It's been a while since I talked about it.


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								I mean, last year recommendation was, you know, of course the booster starts when you're six months old.


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								You got to get it in early, right?


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								Early and often they say about the boosting these kids for COVID.


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								Six months to all ages.


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								And it was a vaccine that had no randomized control trials powered for any clinical endpoint.


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								So we don't know what reduces.


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								So he's saying no randomized control trials powered for any clinical endpoint.


								49:28.866 --> 49:30.867

								So again, he's kind of


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								finishing his audition to join the RFK team because, you know, no placebo-controlled trials is one of their shtick.


								49:39.838 --> 49:42.883

								That's Aaron Seery's shtick for the last five years.


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								catching COVID or getting severe COVID or anything like that.


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								What I think a sensible scientific solution would be, you allow the company some flexibility in what target they want to go after.


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								I don't think that has to be proscribed by FDA.


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								We've got a lot of heat for having to tell, you know, telling people, like not telling people the target, but companies should be a little bit free to either go after sort of a parent strain of it or the most recent strain.


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								And then companies should be said, run a randomized trial September-ish.


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								August, September-ish when the air conditionings are blowing, you know, because the air conditioning can spread it apparently.


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								And power your trial for reduction in hospitalization due to COVID.


								50:23.601 --> 50:27.345

								And then the first thing the company, they'll say the company stats guy is like, well, how big that trial going to be?


								50:27.785 --> 50:29.527

								And they'll be like, oh, you want to include the six months old?


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								And they're like, yeah, sure, why not?


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								They'll be like, oh, then the trial will be 10 million people.


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								And like, okay, now, because you know, the event rate is so low.


								50:35.311 --> 50:38.733

								So then they're going to say, okay, now let's, why don't we target the elderly?


								50:38.753 --> 50:39.734

								Why don't we go after 65 or 70?


								50:39.854 --> 50:41.455

								I was like, oh, target the elderly.


								50:41.495 --> 50:41.715

								Hmm.


								50:41.935 --> 50:44.376

								That's an interesting, so you're saying focus protection.


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								Yeah.


								50:44.676 --> 50:46.117

								How about a little focus protection?


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								Like, oh, that sounds good.


								50:47.118 --> 50:47.418

								Okay.


								50:47.618 --> 50:49.719

								So let's go after 65 or, or let's.


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								Do you actually believe he would ever wear that baseball cap outside or is he just wearing it right now so that he can look like an American?


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								say 65 with comorbidities or 75 and then they'll say maybe the same.


								51:07.022 --> 51:12.285

								I see his current outfit as a lot like how Steve Bannon dresses.


								51:12.685 --> 51:14.486

								Steve Bannon is a complete fraud.


								51:15.627 --> 51:20.090

								I'm a working man with a Carhartt jacket and three pens.


								51:20.570 --> 51:21.971

								His biggest joke


								51:23.925 --> 51:27.446

								The only reason why he buys Carhartt shirts is because he's such a fat ass.


								51:27.486 --> 51:29.566

								That's probably the only reason why he wears them.


								51:29.987 --> 51:34.448

								And because he thinks that it makes working class people identify with him.


								51:34.488 --> 51:35.748

								He's such a fraud.


								51:35.888 --> 51:40.829

								Temple size should be like something like 20,000 or 15,000 or 30,000, depending on the event, right?


								51:41.389 --> 51:48.011

								And then they'll run the study and then the study can accrue the, you know, 10% of Americans who want to


								51:48.151 --> 51:54.017

								Think about the guy who's sitting at the FDA on those podcasts now with his fancy socks and his fancy shoes.


								51:54.458 --> 52:01.465

								Do you really think professor at Stanford of oncology has a hat like that in his repertoire?


								52:01.565 --> 52:02.006

								Come on.


								52:03.069 --> 52:08.071

								participate in such a study, if there's even that, because I think now it's become so polarized, there's huge chunks.


								52:08.311 --> 52:11.272

								Yeah, I wouldn't enroll in the study, to be honest with you, because I'm not worried.


								52:12.073 --> 52:15.314

								But they'll run their study, and then they'll get approval if they have a positive endpoint.


								52:15.354 --> 52:16.895

								I think that's the scientific way.


								52:17.715 --> 52:21.457

								Like for all drug products, you run a trial, if the trial meets a clinically-.................................................................................................................................


								52:31.881 --> 52:34.582

								that you can have that Carhartt jacket, I think that's cool.


								52:34.922 --> 52:36.463

								Relevant end point, you get drug approval.


								52:37.523 --> 52:38.524

								So that's how I do that one.


								52:38.704 --> 52:40.765

								Yeah, and what's the chances of that happening?


								52:41.225 --> 52:42.125

								I don't know, actually.


								52:42.165 --> 52:44.106

								That ball's in Marty's court.


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								We gotta bring him back!


								52:45.527 --> 52:52.850

								We got Marty on the VPZ, but now he's in power, and we know power corrupts, and absolute power doesn't corrupt at all.


								52:52.950 --> 52:53.490

								Is that the saying?


								52:53.730 --> 52:54.431

								Marty is like...


								52:55.251 --> 52:57.232

								like Batman and the third Batman.


								52:57.352 --> 52:59.272

								He's like so above it all.


								52:59.552 --> 53:04.694

								He can give it up at any time and be on the piazza sipping a drink with Catwoman.


								53:04.774 --> 53:08.135

								Now with Marty, it's going to be a gold schlager on the rocks.


								53:08.235 --> 53:09.075

								A gold schlager.


								53:09.155 --> 53:10.316

								Or perhaps a peach schnapps.


								53:10.436 --> 53:13.136

								I know Marty's predispositions.


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								And a bowl of soup.


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								And a bowl of soup, that's right.


								53:15.857 --> 53:17.878

								Yeah, but I think Marty's a good person to put in charge of it.


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								We'll see what happens.


								53:19.718 --> 53:20.619

								But okay, let's talk about another thing.


								53:20.959 --> 53:23.099

								What about if you want to do good vaccine science around safety?


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								Yeah.


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								Because I heard they want to do this.


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								I heard the result is coming soon.


								53:26.841 --> 53:27.781

								Well, I don't know about the result.


								53:27.801 --> 53:29.122

								I hear we're curing autism soon.


								53:29.362 --> 53:30.802

								I hear they want to study it.


								53:31.502 --> 53:34.804

								And it hasn't been studied, apparently, at all.


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								Well, OK, that's an interesting question.


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								I want to make it.


								53:37.825 --> 53:39.365

								So autism is real.


								53:41.366 --> 53:46.768

								Autism is real, and it's a complex combination of environmental and genetic factors that brings it about.


								53:48.149 --> 53:51.510

								Just like James Lyons Weiler said, just like Robert F. Kennedy Jr.


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								said, there's profound autism and then there's this other stuff.


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								Autism is real.


								53:57.849 --> 54:00.990

								A table of all the vaccines and all the autism studies.


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								I think it's been studied many, many times.


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								Exactly right.


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								That's my point.


								54:03.551 --> 54:05.712

								But I think a lot of them are MMR.


								54:06.852 --> 54:09.793

								And I think that some of their claims are like, well, what if it's the combo?


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								And it's hard to, like, I want to know exactly the landscape of studies.


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								That's one too.


								54:15.554 --> 54:20.856

								But I think if you really wanted to study it, you shouldn't, I wouldn't frame it as a study for autism.


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								I would frame it as we want to study the safety signals of all vaccines, whatever those safety signals are.


								54:27.838 --> 54:30.819

								So I think it's actually possible that he's just a dipshit.


								54:31.560 --> 54:36.741

								He's just so naive to the idea that vaccines might cause problems.


								54:36.781 --> 54:40.303

								He's such a moron that he's never considered it before.


								54:40.323 --> 54:42.143

								It wouldn't surprise me if he has no kids.


								54:44.992 --> 54:47.213

								I actually think he might be a stooge.


								54:47.974 --> 54:48.954

								And that's what they need.


								54:49.174 --> 54:51.536

								I think Brent Weinstein is also a stooge.


								54:53.157 --> 55:06.084

								And because they're not sophisticated enough to really see the big picture, because they're just gunners, they're just trying to get an A on the test, even as adults, they still think that there's something like that in the adult world.


								55:07.045 --> 55:12.568

								And it's the approval of their friends or the people that they respect behind the scenes or their dad or whatever.


								55:13.028 --> 55:13.929

								But this is sad.


								55:15.131 --> 55:19.012

								Because what we're teaching at Giga Home Biological isn't that hard to understand.


								55:19.072 --> 55:28.656

								It just puts into question their fundamental understanding of what it is they do and what it is they think they work on as doctors and as scientists.


								55:28.716 --> 55:37.899

								Because once they understand that the high-fidelity understanding that they thought they had isn't true, it starts to humble people.


								55:38.399 --> 55:40.080

								Sometimes you just got to reject it.


								55:40.740 --> 55:52.632

								And I think that could happen with somebody in the military, for example, who ran into a podcast that made him question the existence of large nukes.


								55:53.293 --> 56:01.461

								After 20 years of being in the military, assuming that that's the worst case scenario, and assuming that that prerogative is real, it might be a real


								56:04.093 --> 56:11.738

								It might be a real difficult revelation to have that maybe they lied about nuclear weapons, even if they can make them, they didn't make them, they just told us that they could.


								56:13.119 --> 56:24.106

								Even just considering that thought and being challenged to consider that thought for the first time in your life, even if your conclusion is, no, I think they made them, is still something that not everybody is ready to do.


								56:24.187 --> 56:26.208

								Not everybody even has the circuitry to do.


								56:28.618 --> 56:37.705

								And so you're in a very nice place on the internet where the majority of the people in the chat have the circuitry to reconsider what it is that they assume in every scenario.


								56:38.766 --> 56:42.429

								And it takes a while to exercise your brain to the point where you can get there.


								56:43.249 --> 56:44.991

								It's not a weakness, it's a strength.


								56:46.092 --> 56:52.817

								Where every time you're asked to, you can check all the variables, including the presuppositions of where you are.


								56:57.731 --> 56:59.052

								These guys clearly cannot.


								56:59.332 --> 57:10.281

								I think they've been drafted into a script and told the script to a certain extent is going to rope together and neutralize the anti-vax movement.


								57:10.401 --> 57:12.983

								And so that's a noble lie and a noble cause.


								57:13.063 --> 57:21.970

								And he probably was drafted into that task, just like Brett Weinstein was probably drafted into that task, that when this pandemic happens,


								57:22.771 --> 57:35.500

								we're going to have to have useful skeptics that we can use to get us to the end point and the end point we're not there yet because it's like a nine-year plan and the end point will be the next thing that a test can find.


								57:35.921 --> 57:44.487

								That's what I'm guessing right now that there's going to be because PCR testing is not going to be questioned by these people so it's still a tool and still a way that they can do it.


								57:45.725 --> 57:48.426

								I think the only way to do it is a prospective data collection.


								57:48.606 --> 57:57.188

								In other words, I do not think you are able, that it's possible to take existing data sets and get at any greater truth than what we've gotten.


								57:57.748 --> 58:10.812

								I think if you want to do it, you would say starting this summer, we're going to take 75 sites and literally collect tons of data going forward on anyone getting vaccine, getting vaccine a month later and things like that.


								58:11.432 --> 58:12.612

								So that's absurd, right?


								58:12.692 --> 58:30.917

								One of the things that they could do, that CHD could have advocated to do already 10 years ago, or I guess it would be 8 years ago, would be to advocate for the intense inspection of all babies' medical records that die of SIDS.


								58:32.844 --> 58:39.550

								Because if all those babies that die of SIDS have a commonality in their medical records, that would be worth knowing.


								58:39.590 --> 58:44.694

								But no one's ever done that study, especially in the context of vaccination.


								58:44.734 --> 58:51.520

								But again, remember, the idea is to pretend that you are skeptical and you are reasonable.


								58:52.460 --> 58:55.783

								And in so doing, one of the things that they have to do is


								58:57.250 --> 59:01.574

								get everybody listening to accept the presupposition that there are good vaccines.


								59:02.155 --> 59:10.843

								There are just times when it seems like vaccines or a combination of them might result in adverse side effects.


								59:10.903 --> 59:12.965

								But in general, vaccines are good.


								59:13.485 --> 59:17.089

								And that is the assumption that even Mary Holland works under.


								59:18.075 --> 59:22.798

								and has been working under since around 2015 when she came out on Democracy Now!


								59:22.978 --> 59:28.682

								opposite Paul Offit and started this elaborate decade-long show.


								59:29.960 --> 59:32.903

								What's your control, or who would be the negative group, just people who decline?


								59:33.103 --> 59:38.948

								People who decline, or you could do some time series analysis, like people who get it one month later, depending on birthday or something like that.


								59:39.668 --> 59:44.172

								Because you could examine people who delay vaccines, they don't like the schedule, they think it's too packed, they delay it.


								59:44.853 --> 59:45.894

								How many of them are getting sick?


								59:46.034 --> 59:47.595

								Well, we've already done that study.


								59:47.755 --> 59:57.684

								The CHD had that data already in 2017 from Paul Thomas, and they also had data from other doctors' offices that they never really bothered to break down and work on.


								59:58.968 --> 01:00:03.392

								where just those kids had less doctor visits, less allergies, less, less.


								01:00:06.674 --> 01:00:08.016

								And so it's a hamster wheel.


								01:00:09.237 --> 01:00:11.899

								Their audience is on a little different part of the wheel.


								01:00:11.939 --> 01:00:14.021

								They're a little behind us or a little ahead of us.


								01:00:14.061 --> 01:00:16.603

								It doesn't matter because the rungs are all going to come back again.


								01:00:18.631 --> 01:00:28.878

								Or even comparing like, you know, like a kid who gets a vaccine at say six months of age against a five month old kid for at least the next month, you know?


								01:00:29.359 --> 01:00:35.863

								I really think for at least the next month, you see, I really think they're naive because they don't, they're almost there.


								01:00:35.883 --> 01:00:38.645

								And they'll never get there now.


								01:00:38.745 --> 01:00:41.107

								But this is evidence that they are naive.


								01:00:41.147 --> 01:00:42.328

								They're so cocky.


								01:00:43.612 --> 01:00:45.574

								because they already know he's got the job.


								01:00:45.954 --> 01:00:55.564

								They're so cocky that they just talk off the cuff and almost get there and say, you know, it'd be interesting if they just looked at kids who get vaccines at six months and you know, the month after or so.


								01:00:56.305 --> 01:00:59.488

								Ooh, that was almost too close for comfort, right?


								01:00:59.528 --> 01:01:01.651

								But you can see how naive he is.


								01:01:03.254 --> 01:01:04.955

								And they put him back on script, trust me.


								01:01:04.975 --> 01:01:05.756

								They'll get him right back.


								01:01:05.776 --> 01:01:06.857

								That's why it's all.


								01:01:06.877 --> 01:01:09.579

								Somebody who's just below on the cutoff.


								01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:11.720

								But I think what- So it gets worse.


								01:01:11.860 --> 01:01:12.721

								It gets worse.


								01:01:12.761 --> 01:01:13.582

								You can watch this.


								01:01:13.682 --> 01:01:15.103

								It's from April 23rd, 2025.


								01:01:16.003 --> 01:01:17.925

								It's their last live that they did.


								01:01:19.286 --> 01:01:24.590

								The other thing that's kind of scaring me is that there seems to be a projection of hopelessness.


								01:01:25.706 --> 01:01:43.744

								On our side, the conservative side, we even have international politicians that are being promoted by X and being promoted by this group of bought out people on Rumble and on YouTube, like Jimmy Dore, who I've met in person and gave an annotated


								01:01:44.966 --> 01:01:56.034

								Wuhan cover-up book to him, with a letter in the front cover saying, you know, these people are lying to us, there is no pandemic, etc, etc, etc, and explained stuff in the margins of the book.


								01:01:56.694 --> 01:01:57.735

								I spent a lot of time.


								01:01:58.715 --> 01:02:05.420

								Because when he came to Pittsburgh, I really wanted, I took pictures with him and his wife, and gave him the book and was really excited.


								01:02:06.040 --> 01:02:06.361

								Nothing.


								01:02:06.901 --> 01:02:12.485

								Instead, he, yesterday, promoted this German lady who I'm sure is on Robert Malone's script.


								01:02:14.252 --> 01:02:26.698

								Another country is going to step in and put a stop to this, to the censorship, to this denying fundamental rights and just taking the path downright into totalitarianism.


								01:02:27.038 --> 01:02:36.383

								And so her job is to announce the plan while not telling you that there was an anticipated rise in all-cause mortality across the West that they sculpted using manslaughter and lies.


								01:02:37.481 --> 01:02:38.783

								I told that to Jimmy Dore.


								01:02:38.823 --> 01:02:43.389

								Jimmy Dore knows that they're lying about that in order to trick people into getting the shots.


								01:02:43.989 --> 01:02:47.374

								That's why he got vaccine injured and he's not doing anything about it.


								01:02:48.558 --> 01:02:59.281

								Frickin' Americans were murdered by opioids and by pandemic protocols in hospitals and in care homes so that Jimmy Dore would be scared enough to take the shot.


								01:02:59.321 --> 01:03:05.342

								And Jimmy Dore doesn't have the guts or the balls or the brains to speak out about it.


								01:03:05.402 --> 01:03:09.683

								Instead, he just promotes whoever he's told to promote and collects his money.


								01:03:13.530 --> 01:03:19.214

								But if it's happening in every single Western democracy, who the heck do you think is going to come and bail us out?


								01:03:19.714 --> 01:03:21.735

								There isn't going to be anyone coming this time.


								01:03:22.135 --> 01:03:23.276

								It's not going to happen.


								01:03:24.117 --> 01:03:25.277

								She's giving you the warning.


								01:03:25.337 --> 01:03:27.579

								She's telling you right now, it's not going to happen.


								01:03:30.040 --> 01:03:35.684

								It's not that dissimilar to Mike Eden, who's telling you that the digital ID is going to happen.


								01:03:35.724 --> 01:03:38.966

								The only way you're going to get out of this is by not taking the digital ID.


								01:03:41.311 --> 01:03:45.894

								But the way that they're going to get you to take the digital ID is they're going to require it on social media.


								01:03:45.934 --> 01:03:51.719

								We've already been told this three years ago by some guy by the name of Jonathan Cooley in the back of his garage.


								01:03:54.201 --> 01:04:01.366

								We've got to get our kids off of social media because our kids are in danger on social media from the anonymous accounts.


								01:04:02.246 --> 01:04:04.708

								And so then they're going to require citizens to have ID.


								01:04:10.512 --> 01:04:15.895

								Or maybe they'll have special accounts with special privileges because they turned in their ID.


								01:04:15.955 --> 01:04:16.815

								They're verified.


								01:04:18.016 --> 01:04:19.097

								That's all they have to do.


								01:04:22.038 --> 01:04:24.860

								And now our children will take a digital ID.


								01:04:24.900 --> 01:04:28.882

								Even if dad's being a, you know, my dad's a pretty backwards guy.


								01:04:28.902 --> 01:04:31.803

								He doesn't have a digital ID, so he's not really on the internet.


								01:04:31.843 --> 01:04:35.345

								He only streams on this, this peer tube that he does himself.


								01:04:36.305 --> 01:04:37.166

								My dad's a dork.


								01:04:38.148 --> 01:04:39.370

								But I got a digital ID.


								01:04:39.410 --> 01:04:40.611

								I'm on Facebook and everywhere.


								01:04:40.651 --> 01:04:41.813

								That's how it's going to be.


								01:04:43.535 --> 01:04:48.141

								And they're just announcing it and getting paid to announce it because they've got no alternatives.


								01:04:48.782 --> 01:04:55.170

								He's on YouTube and rumble doing and reading, reading sponsorships for shit sake.


								01:04:56.661 --> 01:04:59.402

								Right now we have a special guest with us, Christine Anderson.


								01:04:59.462 --> 01:05:04.525

								She's a German politician who has served as a member of the European Parliament since 2019.


								01:05:05.365 --> 01:05:08.907

								She's representing the Alternative for Germany party, the AFD.


								01:05:09.267 --> 01:05:23.394

								She was formerly an activist with the Pegida movement, I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly, and became a member of the AFD in 2013, later serving as the party's group leader at the Limburg-Wilburg district assembly from 2016 to 2018,


								01:05:25.776 --> 01:05:26.858

								She's very outspoken.


								01:05:26.898 --> 01:05:28.361

								We're really happy to have her here.


								01:05:28.501 --> 01:05:30.525

								Please welcome to the show Christine Anderson.


								01:05:30.545 --> 01:05:31.126

								Hi Christine.


								01:05:32.228 --> 01:05:34.132

								Hi Thanks for having me


								01:05:34.463 --> 01:05:35.083

								My pleasure.


								01:05:35.143 --> 01:05:37.685

								So we've been watching lots of you.


								01:05:37.745 --> 01:05:40.706

								You make a lot of ruckus, which is good for a politician.


								01:05:40.946 --> 01:05:55.773

								I think all of this you see is that the idea is to try to make it seem like there's an international consensus and an international group of people who has America in its sights and the controlled demolition of America in its sights.


								01:05:56.353 --> 01:05:57.574

								They're going to use Donald Trump


								01:05:58.558 --> 01:06:00.080

								They're going to use the next election.


								01:06:00.580 --> 01:06:02.282

								They're going to use the crash of the dollar.


								01:06:02.322 --> 01:06:03.784

								They're going to use the price of gold.


								01:06:03.824 --> 01:06:06.046

								They're going to use the supply chains.


								01:06:06.086 --> 01:06:07.728

								They're going to use it all against us.


								01:06:09.630 --> 01:06:15.756

								And these people are going to keep us focused on irrelevant things instead of focused on organizing locally.


								01:06:16.886 --> 01:06:22.711

								on teaching our children to get off of social media and to stop chasing the ghosts that are on social media.


								01:06:22.771 --> 01:06:32.340

								He's promoting the ghosts on social media and he's doing it happily, even though they murdered people in his home country so that he would be gullible enough to take the shot.


								01:06:32.440 --> 01:06:34.322

								And that's why he's injured.


								01:06:35.903 --> 01:06:38.165

								It's almost like they put a gun to these people's head.


								01:06:39.591 --> 01:06:42.174

								Or they say, you know, if you don't do it, someone else is going to do it.


								01:06:42.214 --> 01:06:44.297

								And then your podcast will never take off.


								01:06:44.577 --> 01:06:46.339

								And you will get no sponsorships.


								01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:48.802

								And you won't be able to book another club.


								01:06:54.740 --> 01:06:57.362

								going against the establishment and the status quo.


								01:06:58.243 --> 01:07:01.945

								And let me just ask you about the AFD.


								01:07:02.186 --> 01:07:11.672

								I'm going to remind you of a song that I haven't played in a little while because somebody said thanks for reminding me of that song or there's a new song on my playlist or something like that.


								01:07:12.453 --> 01:07:19.498

								I really think this is a great tune and I really think this guy's a great musician and I'll tell you who it is afterward.


								01:07:20.119 --> 01:07:23.141

								Thanks for being here and thanks for being a part of this show.


								01:07:52.930 --> 01:08:20.219

								Any minute now My ship is coming in I'll keep checking the horizon And I'll stand on the bow And feel the waves come crashing


								01:08:24.013 --> 01:08:41.737

								Crashing down, down, down on me And you say, be still my love, open up your heart


								01:08:48.300 --> 01:08:59.104

								Don't you understand I already have a plan I'm waiting for my real life to begin


								01:09:18.661 --> 01:09:40.398

								Suddenly nothing happened But in my dreams I slew the dragon down this beaten path Up this cobbled lane


								01:09:48.567 --> 01:10:13.572

								footsteps once again and you say just be here now forget about the past your mask is wearing thin just let me throw one more dice I know that I can win


								01:10:16.161 --> 01:10:28.891

								I'm waiting for my real life to begin Any minute now My ship is coming in


								01:10:44.991 --> 01:11:10.742

								I'll keep checking the horizons And I'll check my machine It's sure to be that call It's gonna happen soon Soon, oh so very soon


								01:11:13.317 --> 01:11:31.570

								It's just that times are lean And you say, be still my love Open up your heart and let the light shine in Don't you understand?


								01:11:31.851 --> 01:11:40.037

								Oh, I already have a plan I'm waiting for my real life to begin


								01:12:28.743 --> 01:12:43.827

								On a clear day I can see See for a long way On a clear day I can see See for a long way


								01:13:08.789 --> 01:13:11.310

								It's a very clear day in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.


								01:13:11.330 --> 01:13:13.410

								I can see a very, very long way today.


								01:13:13.450 --> 01:13:17.831

								That's Colin Hay, originally from Men at Work in a solo album.


								01:13:18.612 --> 01:13:21.392

								The song is called Waiting for My Real Life to Begin.


								01:13:21.572 --> 01:13:23.473

								What an artist that guy is.


								01:13:23.513 --> 01:13:25.854

								That voice is just, wow, amazing.


								01:13:26.854 --> 01:13:28.975

								Brett Weinstein and his wife are scripted bullshit.


								01:13:28.995 --> 01:13:30.355

								I don't know if they're witting or unwitting.


								01:13:30.395 --> 01:13:32.896

								Well, they're witting now, but they might've not been in the beginning.


								01:13:33.556 --> 01:13:35.256

								But they're definitely scripted bullshitters.


								01:13:35.296 --> 01:13:37.817

								I just don't think they're sophisticated enough to understand


								01:13:39.182 --> 01:13:57.328

								And since it's Independence Day in America and I don't want to wade in this mud for another hour, I've decided to insert an alternative direction for the show for the remaining of the day in hopes of lifting your spirits and reminding you about what America used to stand for.


								01:13:58.149 --> 01:14:02.050

								Reminding you of, trying to remind you of how I think of America.


								01:14:02.762 --> 01:14:15.997

								what I think of America and why I think racism in America is kind of silly, it doesn't make any sense, and they're just folding us in on ourselves with this hamster wheel of bullshit, and they're using social media to do it to us.


								01:14:16.818 --> 01:14:21.984

								America was something much better than the last few years.


								01:14:22.785 --> 01:14:23.326

								Check this out.


								01:14:30.051 --> 01:14:32.912

								Why do people talk about dream so much in sports?


								01:14:35.513 --> 01:14:36.353

								Dream seasons.


								01:14:38.914 --> 01:14:39.734

								Dream matchups.


								01:14:41.554 --> 01:14:42.775

								Dream opportunities.


								01:14:44.975 --> 01:14:50.377

								They do it because so much of sports is about imagining what you want things to be like.


								01:14:52.237 --> 01:14:54.078

								If only the setting were just right.


								01:14:54.798 --> 01:14:58.039

								It was one of those times none of us will ever forget.


								01:14:58.447 --> 01:15:00.128

								The characters, just right.


								01:15:00.709 --> 01:15:04.311

								I don't know anything about Angola, but Angola's in trouble.


								01:15:04.631 --> 01:15:06.032

								The timing, just right.


								01:15:06.052 --> 01:15:07.893

								11 Hall of Famers.


								01:15:09.034 --> 01:15:11.796

								I don't think you can ever do that again, at no point in time.


								01:15:12.977 --> 01:15:16.359

								If only it could all be the way you might have dreamed it up yourself.


								01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:22.263

								Training camp began on June 22, 1992, in La Jolla, California.


								01:15:23.123 --> 01:15:26.926

								And when the gym doors opened, no one was quite sure what to expect.


								01:15:27.631 --> 01:15:29.412

								especially the players themselves.


								01:15:30.552 --> 01:15:33.053

								It's a lot of egos in one gym and on one team.


								01:15:33.993 --> 01:15:38.554

								Everybody wanted their form to shine and showcase why they were a part of this team.


								01:15:38.975 --> 01:15:43.556

								With all these stars on the team, if it comes down to the last shot, who's going to take the shot?


								01:15:43.896 --> 01:15:44.116

								Me.


								01:15:44.396 --> 01:15:44.596

								Me.


								01:15:45.937 --> 01:15:47.197

								Everybody in the world has an ego.


								01:15:47.237 --> 01:15:49.598

								The only difference between us, we have a reason to have an ego.


								01:15:51.759 --> 01:15:53.199

								Every one of us felt like we was a


								01:15:55.595 --> 01:15:57.216

								That dude is massive.


								01:15:57.296 --> 01:16:02.117

								If you've never seen that guy, he's massive.


								01:16:02.578 --> 01:16:03.278

								You can see it.


								01:16:03.338 --> 01:16:07.119

								If you see it, it looks like his head is small, but actually his head's not small.


								01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:08.960

								His body is just massive.


								01:16:09.040 --> 01:16:10.961

								That Karl Malone is no joke.


								01:16:12.161 --> 01:16:17.905

								I played at DePaul on their practice team when Steve Howard played.


								01:16:18.025 --> 01:16:22.968

								And Steve Howard actually went and sat the bench at the Utah Jazz for a year and a half.


								01:16:23.589 --> 01:16:27.391

								And the size of Steve Howard was mind-blowing.


								01:16:27.471 --> 01:16:29.613

								Like, he was a big dude.


								01:16:30.233 --> 01:16:34.135

								And he looked like a child next to Carl Malone.


								01:16:34.216 --> 01:16:36.637

								Carl Malone is one massive man.


								01:16:36.657 --> 01:16:39.279

								Trying to prove just how great they were.


								01:16:41.687 --> 01:16:43.208

								It was a very competitive practice.


								01:16:43.548 --> 01:16:45.990

								And I'm thinking, aren't we all on the same team?


								01:16:48.712 --> 01:16:49.993

								Patrick go, I don't want to play with David.


								01:16:50.013 --> 01:16:50.854

								I want to play against him.


								01:16:50.994 --> 01:16:53.256

								Then you hear Michael say, I don't want to be on Magic's team.


								01:16:53.276 --> 01:16:54.157

								I want to play against him.


								01:16:56.278 --> 01:17:02.023

								Every evaluation of Michael Jordan at that time was, he's good, but he's never Magic Johnson.


								01:17:03.089 --> 01:17:07.973

								In my competitive nature, I want to use every little bit that I can gather so that I can gain an advantage.


								01:17:08.694 --> 01:17:12.697

								Karl Malone, he's the only guy I would even compare to myself at the power forward position.


								01:17:13.658 --> 01:17:16.280

								So I want to prove that I was the best power forward in the world.


								01:17:17.381 --> 01:17:17.781

								Charles.


								01:17:18.562 --> 01:17:19.543

								Yeah, he's a great talent.


								01:17:19.563 --> 01:17:20.444

								Do I think he's better than me?


								01:17:20.484 --> 01:17:21.024

								Hell no.


								01:17:21.044 --> 01:17:22.806

								So let's do this.


								01:17:26.649 --> 01:17:31.213

								By the time this over with, you're going to be thinking I'm damn good too.


								01:17:32.751 --> 01:17:37.912

								First practice, Barkley drives baseline, and Karl Malone jumps up like this.


								01:17:39.113 --> 01:17:40.833

								Barkley just dunked on him so hard.


								01:17:40.853 --> 01:17:43.314

								It was just an unbelievable play.


								01:17:44.174 --> 01:17:48.235

								I felt like, man, I cannot believe that I'm part of this practice.


								01:17:50.496 --> 01:17:50.896

								I bet.


								01:17:51.576 --> 01:17:53.097

								I want that sweatshirt right there.


								01:17:53.117 --> 01:17:53.497

								I can't find it.


								01:17:53.517 --> 01:17:56.318

								The team had a chance to acclimate themselves to playing on the same side.


								01:17:56.458 --> 01:17:58.938

								I've been trying to get one of those big champion sweatshirts.


								01:17:59.018 --> 01:17:59.659

								I can't find one.


								01:18:01.075 --> 01:18:03.496

								a group thrilled to be facing off against their idols.


								01:18:04.116 --> 01:18:09.619

								I was able to find one of the practice jerseys that they didn't use for the other team, right?


								01:18:09.679 --> 01:18:13.721

								So they got the same reversible jerseys as them.


								01:18:13.921 --> 01:18:17.823

								And after the dream team, they were yellow for the away team.


								01:18:17.863 --> 01:18:18.884

								So this is a white one.


								01:18:19.444 --> 01:18:20.985

								This I got really lucky on eBay.


								01:18:21.105 --> 01:18:21.805

								eBay's awesome.


								01:18:24.011 --> 01:18:26.892

								I found out today I might be picking up magic a little bit full court.


								01:18:26.912 --> 01:18:30.034

								So, you know, things are just happening for me.


								01:18:30.094 --> 01:18:35.256

								If you don't know the story of this game, please listen carefully, because it's awesome.


								01:18:36.396 --> 01:18:37.937

								It really, really makes me happy.


								01:18:38.557 --> 01:18:42.379

								A lot of those people that I've looked up to, Barclay, Malone, a lot of those people talk confidence.


								01:18:42.459 --> 01:18:44.620

								And I think it's going to be a good matchup.


								01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:46.541

								There's no advantage on either side.


								01:18:47.661 --> 01:18:51.883

								For the college players, it was a chance to see how they'd match up against the world's best.


								01:18:52.674 --> 01:18:57.259

								For Coach Daly, it was an opportunity to get his stars to grow into a single unit.


								01:18:58.139 --> 01:19:04.005

								I think we're somewhere between the mentality of an all-star game and trying to come together as a team.


								01:19:04.025 --> 01:19:07.609

								An all-star game, so they're not taking it very seriously, you see?


								01:19:09.371 --> 01:19:11.313

								So we've got to continually work on this.


								01:19:12.250 --> 01:19:15.631

								Daly had been hired for his ability to manage personalities and egos.


								01:19:16.431 --> 01:19:23.494

								And when the scrimmage began, it became apparent that his players had left one of their biggest weapons, those egos, somewhere else.


								01:19:23.514 --> 01:19:33.778

								The non-fan would think, well, they're going to go in there, and they're each going to want their own ball, and Jordan's going to be hogging the ball, and Magic's going to be dribbling all over the place.


								01:19:34.258 --> 01:19:35.898

								Point of fact, it was the exact opposite.


								01:19:36.338 --> 01:19:37.099

								They overpassed.


								01:19:37.899 --> 01:19:39.720

								It was like, I don't want to start it off.


								01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:40.440

								You do it.


								01:19:42.304 --> 01:19:44.766

								And before you realize it, the select team was beating us by 10.


								01:19:47.388 --> 01:19:48.829

								We didn't know how to play with each other.


								01:19:50.150 --> 01:19:53.373

								We didn't want to step on anybody's toes or hurt any egos.


								01:19:54.214 --> 01:19:57.516

								So these young kids, they were killing us.


								01:19:58.537 --> 01:20:02.060

								We were not into it, and we paid for it.


								01:20:06.403 --> 01:20:07.825

								Chris Webber was a man.


								01:20:08.525 --> 01:20:10.727

								I thought, boy, that guy's coming to this league.


								01:20:10.767 --> 01:20:11.528

								I could get out of here.


								01:20:13.027 --> 01:20:16.809

								That is a compliment and Chris Webber was a man.


								01:20:17.229 --> 01:20:19.611

								If that guy's coming into this league, I gotta get out of here.


								01:20:20.131 --> 01:20:23.973

								Think about Larry Bird saying that about you as a basketball player.


								01:20:24.013 --> 01:20:24.834

								That's badass.


								01:20:25.494 --> 01:20:27.315

								Bobby Hurley was dominant.


								01:20:28.976 --> 01:20:37.481

								I did have some success penetrating and collapsing the defense and our energy, our excitement to play, all those things played in our favor.


								01:20:39.363 --> 01:20:42.805

								Bobby Hurley didn't play two seasons in the NBA.


								01:20:43.265 --> 01:20:50.830

								Nevertheless, it did expose the one weakness they could have had, which is defending against quick guards.


								01:20:51.951 --> 01:20:52.771

								They were playing great.


								01:20:55.033 --> 01:20:57.815

								Then I noticed that Michael Jordan is not playing.


								01:21:00.536 --> 01:21:01.517

								I'm saying something.


								01:21:01.577 --> 01:21:02.638

								Chuck, then he said.


								01:21:03.098 --> 01:21:06.160

								That's probably the best basketball coach that's ever lived.


								01:21:08.942 --> 01:21:19.026

								Mike Krzyzewski is single-handedly responsible for taking the reigns of the USA basketball team after this, this Dream Team and kicking people's ass.


								01:21:20.147 --> 01:21:21.887

								He's a really wonderful coach.


								01:21:22.708 --> 01:21:26.929

								And what's really crazy is that he learned to coach from Bob Knight.


								01:21:27.470 --> 01:21:30.411

								Like, talk about America.


								01:21:30.431 --> 01:21:33.892

								This guy's America right here.


								01:21:33.952 --> 01:21:34.993

								That guy's America.


								01:21:35.053 --> 01:21:36.113

								Bob Knight's America.


								01:21:36.173 --> 01:21:38.074

								Basketball and the Dream Team is America.


								01:21:39.383 --> 01:21:39.803

								We're all right.


								01:21:40.843 --> 01:21:41.604

								Yeah, we're all right.


								01:21:42.544 --> 01:21:45.405

								Daly watched as his players failed to make up the deficit.


								01:21:46.065 --> 01:21:49.806

								And in their first taste of outside competition, the Dream Team lost.


								01:21:51.246 --> 01:21:57.308

								It's tribalism, but it's tribalism that's based on what soil do you live on and what legal system do you share?


								01:21:59.948 --> 01:22:01.629

								And under whose shade do you shelter?


								01:22:02.833 --> 01:22:09.578

								If we shelter under the same trees, then I think we might be better off on the same team.


								01:22:09.658 --> 01:22:19.586

								So it's tribalism, but it's a special kind of tribalism now that the world is global and we can have friends all over the world that have no bearing on our lives.


								01:22:19.626 --> 01:22:22.428

								We can even have friends that we don't even know for sure are real.


								01:22:24.089 --> 01:22:25.670

								Then you're damn right it's tribalism.


								01:22:26.051 --> 01:22:27.792

								It's soylism.


								01:22:28.793 --> 01:22:31.475

								A story their coach didn't want the press to get their hands on.


								01:22:32.875 --> 01:22:39.297

								The teams pose for a picture together, both not sure what to make of what had just happened.


								01:22:40.697 --> 01:22:43.037

								But the man in charge may have had the answer.


								01:22:46.278 --> 01:22:47.118

								He threw the game.


								01:22:48.799 --> 01:22:50.139

								You know, Chuck threw the game.


								01:22:52.860 --> 01:23:02.562

								If you look how much Jordan played and how he subbed guys in, not picking up, not making any adjustments, he knew what he was doing.


								01:23:04.195 --> 01:23:05.216

								It was legit.


								01:23:05.916 --> 01:23:06.917

								It felt tremendous.


								01:23:07.417 --> 01:23:10.479

								You know, what we were doing that day, you know, they couldn't stop it.


								01:23:13.121 --> 01:23:18.225

								There are kids who believe in Santa Claus, too, and the Easter bunny.


								01:23:18.305 --> 01:23:24.989

								And now that they've grown up, I hate to burst their bubble, but it was a game thrown.


								01:23:28.692 --> 01:23:30.733

								Not many people would have done it.


								01:23:31.914 --> 01:23:33.435

								And he did it.


								01:23:35.988 --> 01:23:41.371

								It was gratifying to Chuck for us to get our butts beat like that, because now we had to listen to him.


								01:23:42.171 --> 01:23:45.713

								The next day, training camp ended with a rematch against the college kids.


								01:23:46.293 --> 01:23:49.235

								And once play started, everything made sense again.


								01:23:49.995 --> 01:23:51.516

								The tables were turned drastically.


								01:23:53.897 --> 01:23:57.799

								We showed them why we are who we are.


								01:23:58.939 --> 01:24:00.020

								We pretty much beat them by 100.


								01:24:01.857 --> 01:24:02.577

								They couldn't score.


								01:24:04.538 --> 01:24:09.699

								And by the way, Jordan played a lot more that next scrimmage.


								01:24:13.420 --> 01:24:17.421

								Before the Dream Team could play in the 1992 Olympics, they had to qualify.


								01:24:17.441 --> 01:24:21.923

								The place to do that was Portland, Oregon, in the Tournament of the Americas.


								01:24:23.403 --> 01:24:27.024

								It would be the public's first chance to see the NBA stars together in a game.


								01:24:28.171 --> 01:24:29.832

								especially Jordan Bird and Magic.


								01:24:29.952 --> 01:24:35.095

								I agree that God can take away people's talent in a heartbeat, but I would just.


								01:24:35.575 --> 01:24:41.479

								The reason why I think this is so special is because this dream team inspired.


								01:24:42.579 --> 01:24:43.880

								Kids around the world.


								01:24:45.161 --> 01:24:50.224

								In a way that made basketball go international in a way that before the dream team it was not.


								01:24:50.304 --> 01:24:52.045

								That is absolutely for sure.


								01:24:53.386 --> 01:24:57.268

								Daily had asked all three to be team captains, but Jordan had turned him down.


								01:24:58.490 --> 01:25:02.632

								I knew how much it meant to both of those guys because they never had the opportunity to play on the Olympics.


								01:25:03.432 --> 01:25:07.113

								So I'd say you know, Chuck don't worry about me, you know, let these old dogs do it.


								01:25:09.234 --> 01:25:21.498

								Magic and bird don't forget Jordan was already on an Olympic team with worthy and I don't remember all the guys that were on there, but it was an awesome team weren't just the team's oldest players.


								01:25:22.499 --> 01:25:23.759

								They were also the most revered.


								01:25:25.401 --> 01:25:31.084

								They had entered the league together in 1979, embarking on a rivalry that had redefined the NBA.


								01:25:31.184 --> 01:25:42.350

								In a lot of ways, America was governed in part by the NBA with these two guys as rivals, as these two guys as converse shoe wearers.


								01:25:44.031 --> 01:25:51.755

								The whole dichotomy in America between black and white was personified by these two guys for like 15 years.


								01:25:53.720 --> 01:26:06.029

								And their rivalry and getting along and playing along to get along was all part of the cohesive nature of the American dream, the idea that we all are just on the same soil.


								01:26:06.770 --> 01:26:08.791

								And now we're all going to play under the same flag.


								01:26:08.831 --> 01:26:13.915

								This was really a very unique period in America's evolution, if you will.


								01:26:15.447 --> 01:26:25.551

								One of the best times in America, I would argue, was right after I graduated from high school, right when the Chicago Bulls started winning championships, right when I moved to Chicago and was on my own.


								01:26:26.771 --> 01:26:30.892

								And along the way, their personal admiration for one another had grown.


								01:26:32.253 --> 01:26:33.853

								Matty's just a great basketball player.


								01:26:34.033 --> 01:26:35.834

								He's the best I've ever seen, you know.


								01:26:39.715 --> 01:26:40.196

								Unbelievable.


								01:26:40.216 --> 01:26:41.216

								I don't know what to say.


								01:26:44.113 --> 01:26:50.537

								In 1992, they'd be getting the chance to share the ball, but the opportunity would be coming at the end of their careers.


								01:26:52.078 --> 01:26:57.220

								Bird had given his soul to the game, but after so many years, his body was betraying him.


								01:26:57.240 --> 01:26:59.181

								I had back problems.


								01:26:59.562 --> 01:27:01.403

								It just gets to the point where you just couldn't play.


								01:27:01.643 --> 01:27:05.785

								I mean, you couldn't think, couldn't move, couldn't run.


								01:27:06.746 --> 01:27:08.607

								You know, if you can't feel your feet, it's hard to run.


								01:27:09.864 --> 01:27:12.265

								Larry was on the fence because of his back.


								01:27:12.305 --> 01:27:14.526

								So I said, man, LB, you got to play, man.


								01:27:14.546 --> 01:27:15.407

								You got to play.


								01:27:15.427 --> 01:27:18.508

								This is our last chance to be together.


								01:27:19.429 --> 01:27:21.830

								Magic would be able to convince his old friend to play.


								01:27:22.230 --> 01:27:22.610

								And then?


								01:27:22.770 --> 01:27:30.114

								But at the start of the 1991-92 NBA season, he was forced to retire after learning he had the HIV virus.


								01:27:31.397 --> 01:27:36.261

								Doctors would eventually clear him to play in the Olympics, though that didn't stop fears from swirling.


								01:27:36.722 --> 01:27:43.527

								So everybody learned about HIV from the dream team.


								01:27:43.667 --> 01:27:44.989

								Holy shit.


								01:27:46.590 --> 01:27:55.818

								There's a lot of players that really didn't want him to play, didn't want to play with him or against him because nobody knew what diseased man, you know, they say, get a little blood on you.


								01:27:55.898 --> 01:27:58.280

								You got HIV or breeze on you, you know?


								01:27:59.501 --> 01:27:59.561

								Um,


								01:28:00.157 --> 01:28:01.998

								I never bought any of that, you know?


								01:28:02.438 --> 01:28:03.838

								I just said, we just keep going.


								01:28:07.939 --> 01:28:13.221

								See why I think NBA players might be the people we need to get to learn the truth about the pandemic?


								01:28:14.761 --> 01:28:17.742

								And that's what Irvin decided to do, just keep pushing, keep going.


								01:28:17.762 --> 01:28:23.723

								Six, five, three-pointer.


								01:28:23.743 --> 01:28:23.803

								Yes!


								01:28:23.823 --> 01:28:25.824

								Oh, my!


								01:28:25.864 --> 01:28:27.825

								Magic had made a cameo in the 1992 All-Star Game.


								01:28:29.915 --> 01:28:36.017

								and had focused his attention on the Olympics, hoping for an encore of a lifetime alongside his old rival.


								01:28:37.397 --> 01:28:43.479

								Our careers were really over and it was something I thought needed to happen for both of us.


								01:28:45.299 --> 01:28:52.962

								Their debut would take place at Portland's Rose Garden, with their team needing to medal in the Tournament of the Americas to qualify for the Olympics.


								01:28:54.142 --> 01:28:57.083

								That seemed like a foregone conclusion to just about everyone.


								01:28:58.089 --> 01:29:02.732

								including their first opponents, who were completely in awe before the game even started.


								01:29:05.274 --> 01:29:13.479

								The Cuban team spontaneously, like, drops to its knees as if 12 popes had come by on Easter Sunday.


								01:29:15.781 --> 01:29:20.844

								At that point, the idea that this is merely a basketball game has been ripped asunder.


								01:29:23.066 --> 01:29:24.547

								It was a surreal feeling.


								01:29:25.851 --> 01:29:28.253

								He's like, dude, we're here to kick y'all behind.


								01:29:28.273 --> 01:29:31.295

								And they want to take pictures with you.


								01:29:33.196 --> 01:29:34.457

								I love Charles Barkley.


								01:29:34.497 --> 01:29:38.139

								Magic and Larry come out together, two guys that had saved the league.


								01:29:38.780 --> 01:29:41.021

								They wouldn't even be playing this game without those two.


								01:29:41.822 --> 01:29:44.123

								And Magic passed the ball, Larry makes the first basket.


								01:29:44.243 --> 01:29:50.267

								I mean, you know, it just didn't get any better than that.


								01:29:54.326 --> 01:29:54.786

								The U.S.


								01:29:54.806 --> 01:29:57.408

								was off and running, and the result was a thing of beauty.


								01:30:02.350 --> 01:30:11.295

								And no one seemed more excited to be sharing the court than the co-captains.


								01:30:13.196 --> 01:30:17.018

								Opening night was a smashing success, with the outcome never in doubt.


								01:30:20.984 --> 01:30:27.986

								And late in the game, fans in Portland decided they wanted a curtain call from a three-time MVP.


								01:30:28.006 --> 01:30:32.727

								The crowd started cheering, Larry, Larry, Larry.


								01:30:33.067 --> 01:30:45.351

								The crowd reacts to the entrance of Larry Bird, a standing ovation.


								01:30:46.591 --> 01:30:48.752

								And as he'd done so many other times in his career,


								01:30:49.574 --> 01:30:51.515

								Larry Bird rose to the occasion.


								01:30:59.659 --> 01:31:03.300

								It was a virtually flawless performance.


								01:31:03.881 --> 01:31:06.262

								The final margin of victory was 77 points.


								01:31:06.322 --> 01:31:09.403

								And Magic and Bird had led the way.


								01:31:10.324 --> 01:31:15.286

								For Magic in particular, after a year out of the game, the victory had a special kind of meaning.


								01:31:16.516 --> 01:31:26.646

								Living with HIV, never even thinking that I would ever have a chance to play basketball game and then basketball for the United States.


								01:31:27.347 --> 01:31:28.528

								It was therapy for me.


								01:31:29.689 --> 01:31:32.212

								And I needed that in the worst way.


								01:31:33.273 --> 01:31:37.257

								And then there was the matter of making sure Michael Jordan knew he was back as well.


								01:31:37.904 --> 01:31:39.104

								Yeah, you hear what the captain say?


								01:31:39.124 --> 01:31:40.144

								The captain say, sit down.


								01:31:40.164 --> 01:31:42.385

								But this boat is going to sink.


								01:31:42.485 --> 01:31:42.965

								That's right.


								01:31:42.985 --> 01:31:44.645

								Have a seat, because you're going to fall.


								01:31:44.665 --> 01:31:45.205

								That's the captain.


								01:31:45.245 --> 01:31:46.586

								That's going to happen.


								01:31:46.606 --> 01:31:48.106

								That's the seniority right there.


								01:31:48.126 --> 01:31:48.766

								I know it.


								01:31:49.066 --> 01:31:54.627

								With Magic and Michael, there was that little extra something there.


								01:31:54.947 --> 01:31:55.487

								You know?


								01:31:56.067 --> 01:31:56.887

								Ah, shit.


								01:31:57.027 --> 01:31:58.248

								Something kind of to prove.


								01:31:58.488 --> 01:31:59.228

								That sucks.


								01:31:59.268 --> 01:32:00.228

								I forgot about that.


								01:32:00.268 --> 01:32:01.048

								I'm going to stop it.


								01:32:01.088 --> 01:32:01.848

								Oh, too shit.


								01:32:02.408 --> 01:32:05.889

								I'm going to end it.


								01:32:07.165 --> 01:32:14.348

								Because they gave me a strike last time for this copyright shit.


								01:32:14.448 --> 01:32:16.468

								And they're just giving me strikes whenever.


								01:32:16.628 --> 01:32:22.431

								They actually told me that that subway video with the dude that's pretending to stop the subway is now copyrighted.


								01:32:22.911 --> 01:32:25.212

								And they're giving me strikes for every video that has it.


								01:32:28.007 --> 01:32:31.350

								I took it upon myself to always shoot with Michael.


								01:32:31.370 --> 01:32:34.072

								Okay, MJ, three throws today.


								01:32:34.353 --> 01:32:35.253

								Who's the first one to 50?


								01:32:36.414 --> 01:32:39.157

								Or we had little games, who was the better shooter?


								01:32:45.325 --> 01:32:47.367

								Thanks for letting me know about the GigaStream.


								01:32:47.407 --> 01:32:48.627

								The GigaStream is tough.


								01:32:48.687 --> 01:32:53.870

								I don't know if we have a server that's good enough to do it well, but it's still running, it says.


								01:32:53.990 --> 01:32:55.511

								It's recording it for later.


								01:32:56.231 --> 01:32:58.733

								80s, in a sense, even though we were going into the 90s.


								01:32:58.773 --> 01:33:00.454

								Don't touch the phone.


								01:33:01.554 --> 01:33:02.815

								One hand, don't touch it.


								01:33:15.134 --> 01:33:17.375

								You know, he'd just come off missing a whole year.


								01:33:18.576 --> 01:33:20.036

								So it was who can win?


								01:33:20.316 --> 01:33:22.797

								Who's going to have the bragging rights by the end of this trip?


								01:33:23.198 --> 01:33:24.598

								You can't get too close to Michael.


								01:33:24.658 --> 01:33:25.219

								It's a foul.


								01:33:25.879 --> 01:33:30.381

								You haven't committed a foul in almost a year and a half, man.


								01:33:30.421 --> 01:33:32.082

								How can you talk?


								01:33:32.382 --> 01:33:37.364

								Michael's always tried to let people know that he's the top dog in whatever.


								01:33:37.524 --> 01:33:39.185

								That's just his competitive mode.


								01:33:41.670 --> 01:33:51.257

								While the winner of Magic and Michael's Can You Top This Challenge remained in doubt, when it came to facing the competition in the Tournament of the Americas, the team stood united.


								01:33:52.518 --> 01:33:59.984

								When we took to court in Portland, which, you know, we're on home ground, we wanted to showcase to the fans who we would be representing there.


								01:34:00.564 --> 01:34:01.365

								The lead is 30.


								01:34:01.425 --> 01:34:01.865

								Stale.


								01:34:02.225 --> 01:34:02.626

								Jordan.


								01:34:03.066 --> 01:34:04.207

								Jordan.


								01:34:04.287 --> 01:34:08.230

								I'm going to send a message around the world today.


								01:34:08.752 --> 01:34:09.553

								Y'all can give it up.


								01:34:09.993 --> 01:34:11.294

								You foreigners can give it up.


								01:34:21.403 --> 01:34:25.567

								The Americans won their six games at the tournament by an average of 50 points.


								01:34:26.167 --> 01:34:31.452

								All right, Larry, your impressions of tonight's game?


								01:34:31.472 --> 01:34:34.794

								The gold medal was no surprise.


								01:34:35.680 --> 01:34:44.802

								But what was unexpected was the team's interactions with their opponents, who showered them with adulation before, after, and even during games.


								01:34:46.342 --> 01:34:50.903

								Patrick Johnson and Aranda shaking hands after the shot.


								01:34:53.144 --> 01:34:55.384

								The Tournament of the Americas had served its purpose.


								01:34:56.564 --> 01:35:03.286

								The US had qualified for the Barcelona games and given the world its first glimpse of what was coming later that summer.


								01:35:04.551 --> 01:35:11.516

								I just want to say this is just a small step to what our goal really is, to get to Barcelona, win the gold medal and bring it back where it's supposed to be.


								01:35:11.536 --> 01:35:14.338

								Thank you.


								01:35:15.379 --> 01:35:21.063

								They would hold several days of practice in Monte Carlo and play one more tune-up before heading to the Olympics.


								01:35:21.824 --> 01:35:28.349

								The luxurious setting on the Mediterranean Sea was fitting for what already may have been the world's most famous team.


								01:35:29.642 --> 01:35:40.446

								John Stockton is actually kind of an anti-vax dude because Brian Hookers actually did a podcast with him before which is very interesting.


								01:35:42.807 --> 01:35:48.629

								Monte Carlo is one of those glamorous cities and here we were with the most glamorous team ever.


								01:35:49.129 --> 01:35:53.571

								That dude's a monster too, like he's massive, just huge people.


								01:35:53.591 --> 01:35:55.752

								It was kind of a rock star-ish kind of a thing.


								01:35:58.695 --> 01:36:04.439

								The players were relaxed and confident, and willing to admit there was more to the trip than just basketball.


								01:36:04.819 --> 01:36:06.540

								I don't worry about playing basketball.


								01:36:06.580 --> 01:36:07.481

								That comes naturally.


								01:36:07.501 --> 01:36:08.582

								I just want to have fun.


								01:36:09.202 --> 01:36:11.544

								David Robinson, Pat Muir, Michael Jordan.


								01:36:11.984 --> 01:36:13.745

								This is like spring break in the ghetto.


								01:36:16.347 --> 01:36:18.869

								Chuck says, OK, this is what's going to happen.


								01:36:19.289 --> 01:36:20.710

								We're going to play it like a real game.


								01:36:20.730 --> 01:36:21.951

								We're going to play four quarters.


								01:36:22.847 --> 01:36:26.670

								We had me, Scotty, Mullins, Bird, and Patrick.


								01:36:27.511 --> 01:36:29.012

								And Magic had his five.


								01:36:29.732 --> 01:36:32.034

								We weren't going to change that team at no point in time.


								01:36:32.234 --> 01:36:32.975

								You got your five.


								01:36:32.995 --> 01:36:33.695

								I got my five.


								01:36:34.456 --> 01:36:35.937

								We gave them the college guy.


								01:36:35.977 --> 01:36:37.478

								You can have Kristin Laitner.


								01:36:37.979 --> 01:36:38.900

								We don't want him.


								01:36:39.040 --> 01:36:39.720

								You can have him.


								01:36:41.962 --> 01:36:43.723

								He's just over there waiting to tag in.


								01:36:44.464 --> 01:36:46.125

								But it was about pride.


								01:36:46.405 --> 01:36:48.407

								And a college kid couldn't help either one of the teams.


								01:36:49.361 --> 01:36:52.223

								Michael Jordan called Clyde out and went at him.


								01:36:52.283 --> 01:36:53.845

								Tell him, this is what I'm going to do to you.


								01:36:54.445 --> 01:36:55.486

								Fall away, jumper.


								01:36:55.866 --> 01:36:56.287

								Good.


								01:36:56.567 --> 01:36:57.648

								What did I tell you?


								01:36:57.988 --> 01:37:00.110

								So I said, no, Clyde, you better get him back.


								01:37:00.370 --> 01:37:01.371

								You better get him back.


								01:37:03.328 --> 01:37:06.029

								Charles Barkley said, I want to take Carl Malone now.


								01:37:06.329 --> 01:37:09.929

								So Charles gets it, far away jumper, good.


								01:37:10.429 --> 01:37:12.630

								I said, oh, Carl, you got to get him back.


								01:37:12.850 --> 01:37:14.610

								You better go down there and get him back.


								01:37:15.270 --> 01:37:17.211

								Carl went right at it, jump shot.


								01:37:17.671 --> 01:37:18.451

								You ain't nothing.


								01:37:18.611 --> 01:37:19.731

								You ain't nothing, Barkley.


								01:37:20.231 --> 01:37:21.471

								So then I came down.


								01:37:23.092 --> 01:37:26.412

								His energy is real high.


								01:37:26.452 --> 01:37:28.693

								He feels like he's in an opportunity to prove himself.


								01:37:31.069 --> 01:37:33.891

								and showcase that, hey, look, I'm still Magic Johnson.


								01:37:34.271 --> 01:37:35.492

								I still dominate this game.


								01:37:35.952 --> 01:37:37.733

								That's all right.


								01:37:37.993 --> 01:37:38.773

								That's all right.


								01:37:39.214 --> 01:37:40.675

								That's all right.


								01:37:40.715 --> 01:37:45.757

								Magic was saying, you ain't the guy, and we got other players in this gym.


								01:37:45.777 --> 01:37:52.181

								It doesn't take much to get Michael going.


								01:37:52.761 --> 01:37:55.203

								Just a little something to tweak him, and it's on.


								01:37:59.122 --> 01:38:00.242

								He never liked to lose.


								01:38:00.723 --> 01:38:02.323

								Michael always got that look.


								01:38:03.404 --> 01:38:09.085

								When you see that look, then you know just give him the damn ball and get out the way.


								01:38:10.886 --> 01:38:19.589

								As much as it was five on five, you could see in Monte Carlo that it was gravitating towards, OK, Michael and Magic.


								01:38:20.309 --> 01:38:24.931

								Magic was hesitant to surrender his place on the mountaintop.


								01:38:26.592 --> 01:38:27.752

								And Michael being Michael,


								01:38:28.462 --> 01:38:31.286

								He needed to say, no, I'm on the top of the mountain now.


								01:38:32.687 --> 01:38:35.030

								Nigel was saying, look, NBA's not yours yet.


								01:38:36.332 --> 01:38:37.113

								You know, I'm still here.


								01:38:38.094 --> 01:38:39.015

								Michael's like, no, it's over.


								01:38:39.576 --> 01:38:40.017

								This is mine.


								01:38:41.345 --> 01:38:45.850

								And the funny thing was Larry was sitting on his side going, it's his.


								01:38:48.333 --> 01:38:51.677

								Chuck realized the competition aspect was getting a little bit too high.


								01:38:54.019 --> 01:38:59.565

								He wanted to end practice, but Magic didn't want to end because he wanted to keep playing because we just kicked his ass.


								01:39:06.570 --> 01:39:13.213

								By the time practice was over, even Magic had to acknowledge basketball's landscape had been changed forever.


								01:39:14.873 --> 01:39:20.576

								Larry and I were talking and Michael walks in and he says, there's a new sheriff in town.


								01:39:25.356 --> 01:39:30.139

								Just moments ago, the Dream Team boarded the bus outside their hotel along the Ramblas.


								01:39:30.300 --> 01:39:34.022

								They are heading for their first match-up in Barcelona with the Angolans.


								01:39:34.863 --> 01:39:39.986

								I can remember the first game, the real game, when we came out of the locker room and stepped on the court.


								01:39:41.107 --> 01:39:44.690

								And I finally said to myself, I can't believe this, I'm here.


								01:39:46.251 --> 01:39:50.174

								At that point, we were in serious Olympic mode.


								01:39:50.990 --> 01:39:55.401

								This actually may be the biggest mismatch of the entire Olympics.


								01:40:05.912 --> 01:40:08.113

								The U.S.


								01:40:08.574 --> 01:40:11.116

								with a 46 to 1 run.


								01:40:11.136 --> 01:40:11.396

								46 to 1.


								01:40:11.516 --> 01:40:11.816

								Wow.


								01:40:12.136 --> 01:40:21.223

								It was just a tremendous atmosphere because there was an appreciation for how great the U.S.


								01:40:21.283 --> 01:40:22.184

								players were.


								01:40:23.565 --> 01:40:27.528

								After the first half, Barkley's pregame prediction appeared dead on.


								01:40:28.289 --> 01:40:30.951

								But in the second, Charles found some trouble.


								01:40:31.554 --> 01:40:41.801

								I hear the players in Angola, who play against South Barkley, they told us there's no way a kid, a fat boy, is many aggressive in the paint.


								01:40:51.928 --> 01:40:54.570

								I thought they were playing dirty.


								01:40:54.930 --> 01:40:58.392

								And I told old boy, I don't even know if he understood my thing, man.


								01:40:58.592 --> 01:40:59.433

								He's up on the elbow.


								01:41:01.136 --> 01:41:02.676

								Bartley from Pippen.


								01:41:03.056 --> 01:41:04.717

								I let it go twice.


								01:41:05.637 --> 01:41:07.957

								You can see the frustration with Bartley.


								01:41:08.017 --> 01:41:10.858

								And the next time, I just cracked it.


								01:41:12.338 --> 01:41:13.479

								Bartley from Pippen.


								01:41:13.579 --> 01:41:19.920

								And a technical foul has been called on Bartley.


								01:41:21.180 --> 01:41:25.281

								To his dying day, Charles claims the guy elbowed him three times.


								01:41:25.781 --> 01:41:27.762

								People always say, turn the other cheek.


								01:41:27.982 --> 01:41:29.782

								If you turn the other cheek, I'm gonna hit you in the other cheek, too.


								01:41:30.953 --> 01:41:32.213

								I thought, what are you doing, Charles?


								01:41:32.533 --> 01:41:33.954

								The guy is half your size.


								01:41:34.574 --> 01:41:37.095

								But, you know, Charles was an equal opportunity abuser.


								01:41:37.555 --> 01:41:41.396

								Erlander Kodimbra did not think it was a friendly elbow.


								01:41:41.936 --> 01:41:44.016

								That's the same guy that just asked for an autograph, Charles.


								01:41:44.176 --> 01:41:45.937

								I mean, you think he's not intimidated?


								01:41:45.957 --> 01:41:50.918

								The United States has defeated Angola by the score of 100.


								01:41:51.078 --> 01:41:56.259

								Once you're on the floor and you're actually competing, that's what happens with some people.


								01:41:56.319 --> 01:41:57.740

								Like, it's real.


								01:42:00.433 --> 01:42:13.302

								And we, to a certain extent, have to get serious about our country and make sure that we're not playing like an all-star game, that we're taking our responsibilities as adults seriously.


								01:42:14.002 --> 01:42:19.906

								Because social media is weaponized against us and they are using it as best they can against us.


								01:42:24.829 --> 01:42:30.033

								The game may have ended in a rout, but afterwards, the result was overshadowed by the controversy.


								01:42:30.683 --> 01:42:31.564

								What was with the elbow?


								01:42:32.204 --> 01:42:33.465

								Well, he hit me, I hit him.


								01:42:33.485 --> 01:42:35.646

								That's the way it is.


								01:42:36.426 --> 01:42:41.009

								Charles made you look like the ugly Americans, which we were trying not to do.


								01:42:44.031 --> 01:42:47.753

								We said to Charles, look, man, you're a reflection of all of us.


								01:42:48.433 --> 01:42:51.915

								So if you do it, they're not going to write the article that Charles Barkley did.


								01:42:51.935 --> 01:42:53.336

								They're going to say the dream team.


								01:43:00.953 --> 01:43:03.494

								Barkley had stained a dream debut for the Americans.


								01:43:04.495 --> 01:43:14.680

								But in their next game against Croatia, Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan grabbed the spotlight, with the focus on their matchup with one of Europe's best players, Tony Kukoc.


								01:43:14.700 --> 01:43:21.684

								The major storyline that carries into this game involves Tony Kukoc, second round pick of the Chicago Bulls back in 1989.


								01:43:21.824 --> 01:43:25.366

								The Bulls made a strong push to sign him last season.


								01:43:26.072 --> 01:43:31.916

								At that time, general managers in the league were trying to come up with gems, make their discoveries overseas.


								01:43:32.357 --> 01:43:35.399

								And Kraus thought this guy could play in the NBA.


								01:43:36.620 --> 01:43:44.986

								While Jordan and Pippen had been winning back-to-back titles, Chicago GM Jerry Kraus had been publicly wooing Kukoc to join the Bulls.


								01:43:45.998 --> 01:43:48.699

								Kraus was recruiting this guy and talking how great he was.


								01:43:48.719 --> 01:43:54.260

								You know, that's like a father who has all his kids and now he sees another kid that he loves more than he loves his own.


								01:43:54.820 --> 01:43:57.361

								So we were not playing against Tony Kukoc.


								01:43:57.901 --> 01:44:01.181

								We were playing against Jerry Kraus in a Croatian uniform.


								01:44:01.902 --> 01:44:07.763

								But unfortunately for the real Tony Kukoc, he was now the target of the world's two best defensive players.


								01:44:08.823 --> 01:44:10.644

								We knew the world was going to be watching.


								01:44:11.244 --> 01:44:14.366

								We knew everyone wanted to see what Tony Kukoc was like.


								01:44:14.886 --> 01:44:19.529

								And we were going to give him the worst experience he ever had on a basketball court.


								01:44:20.569 --> 01:44:26.292

								Pippen drew the initial assignment of shadowing Kukoc and harassed the Croatian from the opening whistle.


								01:44:26.753 --> 01:44:30.915

								It was hard to run across the half court without a ball.


								01:44:31.890 --> 01:44:36.093

								And with the ball, it was just, here, somebody else get it.


								01:44:36.213 --> 01:44:39.315

								Tony definitely wasn't getting a shot up, and he wasn't gonna score.


								01:44:39.696 --> 01:44:42.658

								Kukoc is nothing for four, and he's contributed nothing.


								01:44:43.318 --> 01:44:45.220

								We wanted to go guard him on the bench.


								01:44:46.020 --> 01:44:51.564

								Kukoc is called for the offensive foul, and the pressure continues.


								01:44:52.805 --> 01:44:56.187

								And after Pippen wore Kukoc down, it was Jordan's turn.


								01:44:57.448 --> 01:44:58.249

								Kukoc...


								01:44:59.269 --> 01:45:00.390

								Stolen by Jordan.


								01:45:00.450 --> 01:45:02.652

								He reads it better than anyone.


								01:45:02.672 --> 01:45:03.033

								Slam dunk.


								01:45:03.674 --> 01:45:06.356

								Them dudes were all over him.


								01:45:07.157 --> 01:45:08.578

								Here's a three-on-two.


								01:45:13.717 --> 01:45:15.378

								Oh, that play is so awesome.


								01:45:16.139 --> 01:45:18.320

								He threw it up to himself like he was passing it.


								01:45:18.340 --> 01:45:21.202

								I had a question for my teammates during the game.


								01:45:21.543 --> 01:45:23.064

								Like, what is going on?


								01:45:23.624 --> 01:45:27.927

								Do you not see that they're really trying to get you off the court?


								01:45:28.007 --> 01:45:29.048

								And we're like, so what?


								01:45:29.108 --> 01:45:32.330

								I guess that's how an NBA game is played.


								01:45:33.391 --> 01:45:39.035

								Pippen, Jordan, and the Americans cruised to another victory, this one by 38 points.


								01:45:39.875 --> 01:45:42.117

								But the domination had its detractors.


								01:45:43.723 --> 01:45:49.086

								Ervin, there's been some comments that the Dream Team is getting all the attention, and there seems to be some resentment about it.


								01:45:49.106 --> 01:45:50.987

								Have you heard about it, and do you have any feelings about it?


								01:45:52.448 --> 01:45:54.589

								Basically, you know, we haven't heard about it.


								01:45:54.769 --> 01:45:56.030

								We're just here to do our job.


								01:45:57.451 --> 01:46:05.835

								The media may have been looking for signs of a backlash, but in Barcelona, and in the world beyond, the embrace of the Dream Team was universal.


								01:46:07.376 --> 01:46:09.277

								You're gonna stand out and root against Picasso?


								01:46:09.297 --> 01:46:10.558

								I mean, seriously.


								01:46:11.378 --> 01:46:12.519

								They're rooted for genius at work.


								01:46:14.355 --> 01:46:17.016

								I kept thinking that the attention would dissipate.


								01:46:17.636 --> 01:46:22.977

								They're going to play the first game, they're going to win by 60, people are going to go back and watch the track.


								01:46:23.677 --> 01:46:26.417

								It didn't.


								01:46:26.498 --> 01:46:28.598

								It kept building and building and building.


								01:46:39.991 --> 01:46:41.732

								The workers were trying to get autographs.


								01:46:41.752 --> 01:46:43.554

								The security people were trying to get autographs.


								01:46:44.154 --> 01:46:51.981

								All the athletes were standing alongside like a parade.


								01:46:55.144 --> 01:46:57.706

								People perceived us as being superheroes.


								01:46:58.126 --> 01:47:08.115

								Don't forget that Michael Jordan, when he was inducted into the Hall of Fame, said very first and foremost, in every video, in every championship, there was always Scottie Pippen.


								01:47:08.973 --> 01:47:10.074

								Don't ever forget that.


								01:47:10.134 --> 01:47:18.201

								No matter what they tell you about their rivalry or their feud or whatever, Michael Jordan always credits Scottie Pippen.


								01:47:18.221 --> 01:47:19.862

								He could have never done anything without him.


								01:47:19.902 --> 01:47:21.503

								He didn't do anything without him.


								01:47:29.022 --> 01:47:32.244

								The guy on the bench is taking pictures.


								01:47:32.765 --> 01:47:37.007

								And I said, wow, we are having an effect over here.


								01:47:37.027 --> 01:47:43.452

								It was as if the President of the United States was in the midst of a caravan that was going through the streets.


								01:47:57.022 --> 01:48:02.288

								It was like the Beatles, where there's thousands and thousands of people waiting all the time.


								01:48:03.309 --> 01:48:05.712

								That was the most exhilarating 15 seconds of my life.


								01:48:07.254 --> 01:48:10.157

								For the players, surreal experiences have become the norm.


								01:48:10.818 --> 01:48:14.843

								But even more memorable were the unlikely friendships developing behind the curtain.


								01:48:15.942 --> 01:48:17.223

								It was a unique mix.


								01:48:17.884 --> 01:48:22.048

								You know, Larry Bird and Patrick Ewing became like best friends.


								01:48:22.408 --> 01:48:25.511

								I got a white guy from Indiana, and I got a brother from Jamaica.


								01:48:25.791 --> 01:48:27.112

								Patrick said I could pick his mind.


								01:48:27.212 --> 01:48:28.513

								It took me three minutes.


								01:48:28.553 --> 01:48:31.456

								Now I get the chance to come back and start picking on mine.


								01:48:32.517 --> 01:48:33.077

								Took me one.


								01:48:35.540 --> 01:48:39.203

								We were probably the two of the most unlikely people you thought that would be friends.


								01:48:40.734 --> 01:48:46.737

								But if you look, not only Larry and I got to be great friends, but all of those guys got to be much better friends.


								01:48:48.818 --> 01:48:50.339

								We all enjoyed each other.


								01:48:50.379 --> 01:48:52.140

								We all enjoyed the ride.


								01:48:52.920 --> 01:48:56.482

								And we got a sense of each other as men.


								01:48:57.583 --> 01:49:01.185

								Then when we got to the court, it made it even better.


								01:49:02.065 --> 01:49:05.587

								The dream team's chemistry turned out to be the hallmark of their success.


								01:49:06.568 --> 01:49:08.749

								As the players closed in on what they came for,


								01:49:13.636 --> 01:49:21.325

								Their big margins of victory may have been a testament to their dominance, but numbers couldn't capture what made watching them so unforgettable.


								01:49:22.707 --> 01:49:25.751

								Guys played the best basketball you've ever seen in your life.


								01:49:26.572 --> 01:49:30.016

								It was literally like great poetry or great art.


								01:49:30.735 --> 01:49:36.558

								At times, you feel you're watching a performance, a concert, rather than a basketball competition.


								01:49:37.418 --> 01:49:38.038

								This was fun.


								01:49:38.759 --> 01:49:41.880

								This was like... It's how basketball's supposed to be.


								01:49:43.181 --> 01:49:52.705

								And at the centre of the fun was the team's biggest star, who had come to Barcelona at the peak of his powers and shown how much his popularity had exploded.


								01:49:52.725 --> 01:49:56.327

								I will say this one thing about Michael Jordan.


								01:49:58.154 --> 01:50:00.175

								I've been around other celebrities in my life.


								01:50:01.075 --> 01:50:04.656

								I've never seen people react like they do to him.


								01:50:05.277 --> 01:50:07.117

								People go crazy when they see him.


								01:50:09.678 --> 01:50:14.860

								Someday, Jaycee on the hardwoods is going to play one-on-one against Michael Jordan while we talk about basketball.


								01:50:15.881 --> 01:50:16.481

								Mark my word.


								01:50:23.880 --> 01:50:25.521

								in every corner of the world.


								01:50:25.541 --> 01:50:27.882

								While we talk about biology, I blew that one.


								01:50:29.943 --> 01:50:32.484

								There was someone who just wanted to see him.


								01:50:32.944 --> 01:50:34.344

								Please, Michael Jordan!


								01:50:34.865 --> 01:50:40.167

								No one had the sort of pull, the gravity that Michael Jordan had.


								01:50:43.728 --> 01:50:51.992

								The Dream Team squared off against Croatia again in the gold medal game, offering the world one more lasting impression of their supremacy.


								01:50:53.032 --> 01:50:54.333

								Markley with the lead for Mullum.


								01:50:54.373 --> 01:50:57.656

								Behind the back, Drexler.


								01:50:57.676 --> 01:51:00.218

								Team USA came to send a message tonight.


								01:51:01.499 --> 01:51:10.546

								We wanted to win and we wanted to dominate, but how we did it, sharing the ball, including everybody, we did it as a true team.


								01:51:11.287 --> 01:51:11.988

								The U.S.


								01:51:12.048 --> 01:51:20.595

								has defeated Croatia 117-85, and they have won the gold here in Barcelona.


								01:51:28.945 --> 01:51:35.189

								There was never really any doubt the Dream Team would win gold in 1992.


								01:51:35.409 --> 01:51:41.973

								But as they walked back onto the court to get their medals, the moment still overwhelmed them.


								01:51:43.094 --> 01:51:45.455

								We saw a lot of tears from players.


								01:51:46.356 --> 01:51:51.279

								It was a very proud moment for me because anytime you represent your country, you know, that's a prideful thing.


								01:51:53.024 --> 01:52:02.390

								In Michael Jordan's inducted into the Hall of Fame, Basketball Hall of Fame, you can find out that one of his brothers served in the Army for 31 years, one of his older brothers.


								01:52:07.973 --> 01:52:08.333

								Man.


								01:52:10.235 --> 01:52:11.595

								Sent chills down my spine.


								01:52:12.556 --> 01:52:16.118

								It was a reward that I had never felt like that I would ever achieve.


								01:52:17.979 --> 01:52:22.462

								To do it on that stage with those group of guys, it's a memory I'll never forget.


								01:52:24.188 --> 01:52:28.090

								Nothing in my life has ever felt like standing on that podium.


								01:52:29.931 --> 01:52:31.132

								I was getting goosebumps.


								01:52:33.313 --> 01:52:38.696

								Every single time I heard the National Anthem after that had a different significance to me.


								01:52:39.797 --> 01:52:42.638

								I knew what it really meant, you know.


								01:52:44.859 --> 01:52:53.144

								As a young kid growing up, I used to watch Olympics on TV with my father, and all he talked about was the Star Spangled Banner and the gold medal.


								01:52:54.462 --> 01:52:56.163

								It made him feel proud to be American.


								01:52:57.183 --> 01:53:04.826

								Being up on that podium that night and receiving it, my father, he'd been pretty proud.


								01:53:06.806 --> 01:53:09.867

								All those emotions just overcame me.


								01:53:11.128 --> 01:53:14.649

								I got to be one of the guys one more time for my country.


								01:53:16.030 --> 01:53:19.831

								I said, man, I'll never forget this moment.


								01:53:21.371 --> 01:53:22.652

								You know, if this is the end,


								01:53:24.246 --> 01:53:25.507

								This is how I wanted to go out.


								01:53:26.928 --> 01:53:34.474

								This group may well be the greatest team ever assembled in the history of team sports.


								01:53:36.195 --> 01:53:41.219

								But when the medal ceremony was over, another realization began to settle in.


								01:53:42.440 --> 01:53:48.905

								When I walked off, I remember thinking that whole dream has come to an end.


								01:53:52.435 --> 01:53:58.197

								The next season, every Olympian except Magic Johnson and Larry Bird would return to the NBA.


								01:54:00.097 --> 01:54:11.780

								Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen would win their third title against Charles Barkley and the Phoenix Suns, on the way to six championships overall, the last three with Tony Kukoc.


								01:54:14.881 --> 01:54:18.002

								Eventually, other members of the team would also win titles.


								01:54:21.124 --> 01:54:24.526

								But each NBA player on the Dream Team would reach the Hall of Fame.


								01:54:26.408 --> 01:54:31.051

								Still, it's what they did together that summer that had the biggest impact on the game.


								01:54:32.232 --> 01:54:34.393

								An impact that continues to grow today.


								01:54:36.134 --> 01:54:48.543

								It really lifted basketball and it gave birth to international stars who had nothing to do with those games in 92, but who took so much from it.


								01:54:50.339 --> 01:54:52.461

								We made the game a worldwide game.


								01:54:52.481 --> 01:54:55.423

								You know, I talked to Tony Parker.


								01:54:57.065 --> 01:54:58.125

								I talked to Ginobili.


								01:54:59.667 --> 01:55:01.068

								I talked to Dirk Nowitzki.


								01:55:02.309 --> 01:55:06.212

								Those guys say their first love of basketball started with the Dream Team.


								01:55:06.893 --> 01:55:08.214

								And I'm really proud of that.


								01:55:11.056 --> 01:55:12.817

								Look at the size of that man.


								01:55:13.775 --> 01:55:18.636

								His head is tiny because his fricking chest is massive.


								01:55:18.676 --> 01:55:20.496

								There are moments in time you never forget.


								01:55:22.037 --> 01:55:23.257

								No matter how long it's been.


								01:55:25.097 --> 01:55:27.578

								No matter how much else has changed in your life since.


								01:55:29.838 --> 01:55:34.379

								20 years later, they've all kept ties to the game in one way or another.


								01:55:36.940 --> 01:55:41.301

								And they all talk about the summer of 92 as if it happened just yesterday.


								01:55:42.768 --> 01:55:47.350

								an experience still unlike any other in their remarkable basketball lives.


								01:55:50.631 --> 01:55:53.392

								I've never had more fun being around anybody.


								01:55:54.132 --> 01:55:55.352

								Everybody got along.


								01:55:55.593 --> 01:55:56.733

								There was no ego.


								01:55:57.213 --> 01:55:58.053

								We had fun.


								01:55:58.934 --> 01:56:02.095

								You know, clearly everybody reminds me I never won a championship.


								01:56:02.735 --> 01:56:07.757

								So that was like winning the championship, winning the gold medal and hanging out with these guys.


								01:56:10.233 --> 01:56:13.875

								The reward itself is really only a... See how humble he is?


								01:56:15.115 --> 01:56:15.855

								I love that guy.


								01:56:15.955 --> 01:56:16.996

								Small part of the story.


								01:56:18.797 --> 01:56:23.759

								It's what the gold medal represents that will always tie these men together.


								01:56:25.640 --> 01:56:33.563

								This is like, this fraternity is pretty awesome.


								01:56:34.229 --> 01:56:40.035

								I don't think you're ever gonna be able to get 11 Hall of Famers to play all at once on one team.


								01:56:40.635 --> 01:56:46.040

								That's- You know why I think, can you see why I think this shirt is so cool?


								01:56:46.060 --> 01:56:48.383

								This is like one of my favorite possessions.


								01:56:49.804 --> 01:56:50.104

								Wave.


								01:56:50.245 --> 01:56:51.165

								It's nuts.


								01:56:51.426 --> 01:56:52.347

								Wave outside your window.


								01:56:53.928 --> 01:56:54.889

								I can't believe it.


								01:56:55.029 --> 01:56:56.751

								It's so magical.


								01:56:56.851 --> 01:56:57.872

								I just saw my God.


								01:57:04.913 --> 01:57:06.574

								It changed sport as we know it.


								01:57:08.395 --> 01:57:09.856

								They showed the world how to play basketball.


								01:57:09.896 --> 01:57:10.616

								Golly, he's big.


								01:57:11.137 --> 01:57:12.017

								What other team can say that?


								01:57:13.158 --> 01:57:17.180

								I don't think we'll ever see anything like it again.


								01:57:17.420 --> 01:57:18.000

								But you know what?


								01:57:18.060 --> 01:57:25.785

								I do actually think that Giga Home Biological and the movement that we can inspire among our fellow people on earth


								01:57:26.516 --> 01:57:27.898

								could actually change the world.


								01:57:28.178 --> 01:57:31.081

								I'm not going to change the world, but together we could.


								01:57:31.802 --> 01:57:37.067

								Together we could help people realize that population pyramid is the one thing that nobody showed us.


								01:57:37.825 --> 01:57:45.768

								And it would be the one thing that would reveal an anticipated rise in all-cause mortality that could be misconstrued as a crisis.


								01:57:46.528 --> 01:57:58.332

								And I believe an anticipated rise in all-cause mortality was misconstrued as a crisis in America, and they used manslaughter and lies in America to bamboozle the rest of the planet.


								01:57:59.480 --> 01:58:10.726

								Our rise in all-cause mortality sculpted by manslaughter and lies was argued as evidence that the lockdowns in New Zealand and Australia were effective, that the masks in Japan were effective.


								01:58:11.966 --> 01:58:18.870

								And in reality, they were murdering Americans with very simple changes in protocols that they knew would result in death.


								01:58:20.851 --> 01:58:23.372

								Or at least doctors worth their shalts should have known.


								01:58:24.815 --> 01:58:51.463

								And in addition to that, a CDC orchestrated policy which set up Americans to be addicted to opioids and then took them away and criminalized their prescription, created a crisis that could be taken advantage of by any global movement, national security operation that was managing the population pyramid problem with, you know, tough shit if you're on opioids.


								01:58:52.509 --> 01:58:54.770

								Ladies and gentlemen, endemicity is a myth.


								01:58:55.571 --> 01:59:02.314

								Racism is not endemic in America and a virus did not go endemic from Wuhan over the last six years.


								01:59:02.894 --> 01:59:08.897

								They have used nonspecific PCR on the background of an irreducibly complex genetic storm.


								01:59:09.738 --> 01:59:17.342

								And they use placebo to make the transfection safe, but they are still using their tests to find their ghosts and finding ever more ghosts.


								01:59:17.442 --> 01:59:21.164

								And so if you want to save your kids, you've got to dispel this myth.


								01:59:21.724 --> 01:59:28.408

								And you've got to show your kids that there is a fake anti-vax health freedom movement under whose spell we have fallen.


								01:59:28.928 --> 01:59:32.471

								Ladies and gentlemen, have a wonderful Independence Day.


								01:59:32.911 --> 01:59:38.735

								Please remember that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.


								01:59:39.215 --> 01:59:42.077

								Please remember that viruses aren't pattern integrities.


								01:59:42.477 --> 01:59:45.219

								And please remember that it was always transfection.


								01:59:45.239 --> 01:59:46.399

								They want your DNA.


								01:59:46.760 --> 01:59:48.361

								They're already taking it in the UK.


								01:59:49.381 --> 01:59:52.765

								And they want you to believe in pandemics forever.


								01:59:53.406 --> 01:59:56.350

								That's why this paper exists.


								01:59:56.410 --> 01:59:57.912

								They're traders, ladies and gentlemen.


								01:59:58.493 --> 01:59:59.314

								They're all traders.


								01:59:59.974 --> 02:00:01.116

								Thank you very much for being here.


								02:00:01.136 --> 02:00:02.217

								See you again on Monday.


								02:00:03.178 --> 02:00:04.500

								Have a wonderful weekend.


								02:00:04.540 --> 02:00:05.781

								I love you all very, very much.


								02:00:05.882 --> 02:00:07.343

								Team USA, baby!


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								02:00:54.048 --> 02:00:58.650

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								02:01:24.344 --> 02:01:28.587

								And yeah, I'm on Wikipedia, but only on Maybritt Moser's website.


								02:01:28.607 --> 02:01:29.628

								It's funny you looked at that.


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								I looked at that too.


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								Thanks for being here.


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								See you again soon.