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								you


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								It doesn't matter much at all what you believe about vaccines until we invent really important ones.


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								You know, until we have a pandemic that's killing everyone, you know, and, you know, it's not, it's, you know, measles plus, and okay, I can tolerate what you think about measles, because, you know, not that many people die from it.


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								It's just a big hassle in the end.


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								But no, when we have this new pandemic that is, you know, got 75% mortality, and it's not,


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								There'll be no pretense of being polite in the face of these beliefs.


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								It'll be a moral emergency because it has to be.


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								Introduce Jonathan, who's going to talk about his latest distillation of what the pandemic means to society, to biology, to science, and to democracy, and the whole kind of idea of empiricism and integrity.


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								And then each of us, this incredible preeminent panel that we have, each one of you is gonna get a chance to comment.


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								I think truth is good for kids.


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								We're so busy lying, we don't even recognize the truth no more in this society.


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								We want everybody to feel good.


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								That's not the way life is.


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								But you can tell if someone's lying, you know, you can sort of feel it in people.


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								And I have lied.


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								I'm sure I'll lie again.


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								I don't want to lie, you know?


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								I don't think I'm a liar.


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								I try not to be a liar.


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								I don't want to be a liar.


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								I think it's, like, really important not to be a liar.


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								Now, Dr. Gallo and Dr. Fauci talked a lot about isolation and purification.


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								Can you tell me what the difference is between the two?


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								Isolation?


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								What was that?


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								Isolation and purification.


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								Of the virus?


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								Yes.


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								Well, you isolate a virus by, um...


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								uh... finding the virus which causes a disease you purify a virus by making a lot of I mean just by purifying it so you get a pure virus I don't understand what the issue they interchanged the two and I wasn't sure if it was the same thing or if it was two totally different no it depends on how they used it can you explain the process of hiv isolation


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								Well, didn't Dr. Gallo do that?


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								I mean, he actually isolated it, so... I mean, why should I do all of this?


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								This is all textbook stuff you're asking me.


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								It's literally turning into a worst-case scenario.


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								The latest data tells us that we're dealing with, essentially, a worst-case scenario.


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								He is the life of parties he has never attended.


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								If opportunity knocks and he's not home, opportunity waits.


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								When in Rome, they do as he does.


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								He is the most interesting man in the world.


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								I don't always ruin things, but when I do, I prefer the great reset.


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								Stay awake, my friends.


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								Senator Mendoza is one of the most respected citizens in this state, McBain.


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								And yet you ran his limo off a cliff, broke the necks of three of his bodyguards, and drove a bus to his front door?


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								Captain, I have proof that he's head of an international drug cartel!


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								I don't wanna hear it, McBain!


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								You're outta here!


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								That makes two of us.


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								Any minute now My ship is coming in I'll keep checking the horizon And I'll stand on the bow And feel the waves come crashing


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								Crashing down, down, down on me And you say, be still my love Open up your heart, let the light shine


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								Don't you understand I already have a plan I'm waiting for my real life to begin


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								Suddenly nothing happened But in my dreams I slew the dragon down this beaten path Up this cobbled lane


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								footsteps once again and you say just be here now forget about the past your mask is wearing thin let me throw one more dice I know that I can win


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								I'm waiting for my real life to begin Any minute now My shipper's coming in


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								I'll keep checking the horizon And I'll check my machine I'm sure to be that call It's gonna happen soon Soon, oh so very soon


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								It's just the times are lean And you say, be still my love Open up your heart, let the light shine in Don't you understand?


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								Oh, I already have a plan I'm waiting for my real life to begin


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								On a clear day I can see See for a long way On a clear day I can see See for a long


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								It's a beautiful day out here.


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								I swear Solar Flare 9 comes in and says, nice intro today.


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								And then I blew the sound transition to this first slide here.


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								Thank you very much for the compliment.


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								Welcome to the show.


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								Good to see everybody in the chat.


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								Sorry, I missed the 11.11 start time as usual.


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								It's just trying to juggle all these things in the background.


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								And since I don't have my four assistants, my family's not here right now.


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								You know, I'm making the sandwiches and also


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								putting the chickens out and this kind of thing.


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								It's very easy to realize how much my wife does when she's not here and how well I have it.


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								And so I'm very thankful for that and that they can have that time away.


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								Again, it's also partly due to the support that people provide this stream that my family is able to be over there for a little while with my wife's family.


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								And so thank you to all of you for that as well.


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								If we invest money in anything besides rent, it's actually that.


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								And so, yeah, if...


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								So anyway, here we are.


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								We're still trying to get the word out about the basic gist of the narrative being wrong, that there was no evidence of spread in New York City or really anywhere in the world.


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								Infectious clones are the only real thing we need to understand about virology and placebo batches and how they were likely used and the whole idea of transformation and transfection that even Bret Weinstein still can't seem to dedicate more than a sentence to.


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								when in reality understanding transfection and transformation is at the heart of our inability to have exercised informed consent when it would have mattered.


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								And informed consent was also not possible because we weren't being told the truth about what was happening.


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								I'm gonna slip out of here for a second and restart again just to make sure that we get a smooth video here.


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								So they fooled us into solving the mystery of the


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								of the origins of the virus and commitment to those lies about that are where we are right now and they did it with weaponized piles of money they did it with social media they did it with


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								with programming social media to create this and reinforce the limited spectrum of debate.


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								And that limited spectrum of debate allowed us or sort of coerced us into accepting the existence of the novel virus.


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								And that's where we are today.


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								We're accepting that mythology.


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								And anybody that doesn't accept that mythology is just attributed bad motives or, you know, white supremacist or something like this.


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								And that's where we are.


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								And it's these weaponized piles of money that aren't recent developments.


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								They are weaponized piles of money, the largest of which descend from weaponized piles of money like the Dutch East Indies Company.


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								And the British version of that as well.


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								I find it always really curious that very few of these historians ever mention the Dutch East Indies Company.


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								It's always the other one, the British East Indies Company or whatever that one was.


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								There were two and they competed with each other.


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								And the Dutch one was also a giant pile of money.


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								So we've got to show as many people this history as we can while we're showing them the future.


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								Or at least the future that these futurists like Ray Kurzweiler and Metzel and these kinds of people have planned for us.


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								And yeah, we have to learn the history of the vaccination program.


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								We have to learn the history of the AIDS virus.


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								We have to learn the history of chronic fatigue syndrome.


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								We have to learn the history of Judy Mikovits and learn the early history of Robert Malone and the people that he studied retroviruses with or we're never gonna be able to take back power from these charlatans because they inherited the power from their mentors and those mentors had power over our family.


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								And so if we wanna take back


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								the charlatans power we're gonna have to look back into the history of where they got it not only do we have to understand the mythology and how it is contradictory to everything we know about biology but we have to understand why these people were necessary for us to be bamboozled this time and why these people are actually what fifth generation warfare is it is the combination of these people


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								and these people that makes fifth generation warfare possible, that actually makes it happen.


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								And if we're going to make gentle the life of this world, we're going to have to break all of these illusions about our history, all of these illusions about what we know.


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								And we're going to have to break them with our children by our side, with their hands in our hands, as we show them this illusion of consensus that extends into our history and how America as a republic has been usurped a long time ago by traitors with


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								with loyalties to other powers.


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								And as we set our children off into the future as young adults, we're going to be sending them off into the future either where they understand how this illusion is created, they understand how this illusion of consensus is weaponized against us, or they don't.


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								And so I think it's a really crucial time in American history for us to stay focused on the biology and the history, to stay focused on not taking their bait on social media.


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								Case in point was this past weekend and Love Your Neighbor.


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								Now I'm not saying at all that what happened this past weekend is fake.


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								What I'm saying is, is that they've shaken our understanding so much that our default assumption is that it's fake.


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								That's a bad one.


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								That's a really bad assumption.


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								Unfortunately, we don't want to be in a scenario where we're assuming that everything is fake because then they can get away with anything with the combination of, well, it might be fake and incompetence.


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								That's why we've got to realize that there are things we can know.


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								And we need to spread the word about what we know each week.


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								Spread it all the time, because the more you spread it, the more likely it is that this thing is going to become a self-sustaining jogger knot, where we can help other people join the independent bright web and fight against this illusion on the internet, the illusion on social media.


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								And that's what it is.


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								It's an illusion, the entire thing.


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								YouTube, Facebook, Gab, Discord.


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								Twitter, X, whatever you want to call it, is one of the most amazing examples of how we were told that the town square is X. You know, the town square is X. No, I'm sorry, it's not.


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								And we need to have a serious paradigm shift about that in our young people so that they understand the breadth and the depth of how social media has been weaponized against us.


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								It's not a random algorithm.


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								It's not a random algorithm.


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								And the illusion is sustained when you believe that.


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								when you think that your posts go viral by accident when you think that people rise because they're just lucky and so you just keep playing the lottery hoping that you're gonna win you've got to engage in non-compliance especially on social media and i'm gonna try and lead the way i haven't been on twitter today yet and i don't know if i'm gonna be again um i don't know we've got to be careful ladies and gentlemen because it's ramping up


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								I tell you what.


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								What a crazy place we are in when, as host of this broadcast, I feel necessary to say that if we start with the default that everything is fake, we may be in a very dangerous position.


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								But of course, with respect to the pandemic, everything wasn't fake.


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								With respect to the pandemic, everything wasn't fake.


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								People died.


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								People were murdered.


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								People were given 60 liters a minute of supplementary oxygen before they were put on ventilators.


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								People were given ventilators when they could talk.


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								People were given remdesivir.


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								But understanding how this illusion was used against us to create the assumption that something novel was there despite all of this murder is at the heart of this illusion.


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								And so starting with the default that everything is fake,


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								is not what we've done.


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								We started with the default that this was a lab leak, and we have settled after four and a half years on the idea that a lab leak, irrespective of whether it could happen and be detectable, would not result in a pandemic, because RNA can't do that.


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								But I'm a human just like you.


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								And so I made a lot of mistakes in this pandemic thinking I was doing the right thing.


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								But the important thing to realize is over the course of my record, over the last four and a half years, I have a record of integrity.


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								I've corrected.


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								I've criticized the people that were supposedly on my team when I thought it was necessary.


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								And it has resulted in me basically being a soloist in this attempt to escape from this matrix.


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								So in that idea, I want to start with a... Oh, see, and now I screwed this up too.


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								Gosh, darn it.


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								I really need a little intern in here that can do this for me and get this focus up to speed right away.


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								And I don't even have my curtain down.


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								I have my curtain up because the drums are back there.


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								Hold on one second.


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								My cord is not going to let me do this.


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								My bad.


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								This is so annoying.


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								Lucky.


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								The curtain is on a magnet so it can be brought in real easy.


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								There we go.


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								I'm gonna start the show today with a clip from The Matrix because I want you to understand a little bit what I think is a crucial moment that we're at right now where I think we can actually pause the program.


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								And so what I'd like to do is start with this little movie, and then let me just kind of give you an idea of what I mean here.


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								And I'm sure it's not going to take a lot of explanation.


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								I'll get rid of the moving stuff here for a second.


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								Wait, what's going on here?


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								Did I start with that?


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								Oh, yeah, sorry.


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								So, you know, intraoscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.


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								Transfixion in healthy humans was always criminally negligent.


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								And RNA cannot pandemic.


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								I've already said this once in the introduction, but I will say it again.


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								Weaponized piles of money have convinced us to argue about this.


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								And by arguing about it, we've accepted it.


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								And all sides of the narrative were coordinated and controlled and amplified in such a way that it was very difficult for any of us to escape this argument in 20 and 21.


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								And because we all engaged in this argument with or without our willing participation, we engaged in this argument and therefore we accepted its premises.


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								And that's the magic trick, of course, that Noam Chomsky talks about when he says that the smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow a very lively debate within that spectrum.


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								And that is very similar to a statement made in 1924 in a book by Edward Bernays, where he says, the conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element of democratic society.


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								The Matrix is a system, Neil.


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								That system is our enemy.


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								When you're inside, you look around, what do you see?


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								Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters, the very minds of the people we are trying to save.


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								But until we do, these people are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy.


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								You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.


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								And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.


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								Were you listening to me, Neo?


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								Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress?


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								I was.


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								Look again.


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								Freeze it.


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								And so here he's talking about how people that are in the Matrix and aren't ready to be unplugged are part of it.


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								Now, what you need to see is on Twitter and on Facebook, you don't see what your friends and your family see.


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								And what they see is an illusion of consensus that's created by those programs.


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								an illusion of consensus that despite the fact that they also follow you, despite the fact that they also get your posts, they are seeing an illusion of consensus that leads them to conclusions that include their friend is probably not totally on board with reality.


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								And so, although this is a Hollywood representation of this kind of a control mechanism and it involves elaborate bodies and big apparatuses and robots carrying and controlling them, you can think very usefully about how your phone controls the conscious thoughts of your children, controls the conscious thoughts of your family.


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								Very similarly to this, because when your phone, when your kids look at their phone, they see a consensus that isn't composed of their brothers and sisters and their mom and dad.


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								They see a consensus that could be composed of hundreds of their peers, or even worse, what they imagine is hundreds of their peers.


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								And so when this show talks about stopping the program, what you see is we have an opportunity right now to stop this program, to show people exactly how it has been weaponized against us right now in this instance of time.


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								And if we stop the program right now,


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								And we get this program to stop.


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								Sorry, I'm looking at the camera, but I'm waiting for that thing to stop.


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								If we stop the program right now and show people where we are, show people all these different people and how they're connected to one another and how implausible it is for them to have the position that they have.


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								with the opinion that they have, with the track record that they have, with the career trajectories that they have, you will see that we are currently at a place in the story where there's so many contradictory narratives, so many characters have come together that should never have come together, that we can actually show it to people and say, pause the program.


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								Let me show you what's going on right now.


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								We can show that to people.


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								And I've been trying to do it with pictures like this and descriptions of how these different groups of people are organized around ideas because I've tried to show people how, because of my intense engagement since I've been trying so hard to solve the Scooby-Doo mystery, I'm one of the few people who's experienced the level of contradiction that I have.


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								Most people have not engaged with so many people across the spectrum trying to understand and communicate with them to really get a feel for how these people are working together.


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								Because otherwise it just seems like they have disparate ideas or they disagree on things because their background is different or because they come from different perspectives or they're trying to save a different career than the other guy.


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								And those are all lies, and they become very clear once we've realized who's not talking about 2020 and who's saying the shots are bad and contaminated with double-stranded DNA.


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								Still to today.


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								And once you realize that, you can see that these people were organized into a various lollapalooza of liars, different stages.


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								And they've been all performing with one goal, to mislead the young.


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								And I'm not talking about young, like kids.


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								I'm talking about college age kids and young parents, people 30 and under, that still don't have the adult experience necessary to understand that other adults will lie, cheat, and steal when it's for all the marbles.


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								when there are ladders that you climb where you're not allowed to look down, ladders that you climb where there are curtains, you're not allowed to look behind as long as you keep climbing, it's fine.


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								There are people in the United States who really still believe.


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								There are people that work in universities that really still believe that the vast majority of people in government and in corporations don't cheat, don't lie, and would never steal in order to get ahead.


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								And it is in this pretense that we have naively assumed that all of those people over there would never lie and cheat and steal in order to rise up in the power structure of governance.


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								But it's for all the marbles, ladies and gentlemen.


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								And so as long as they stay committed to the idea that we have to fear free-range RNA molecules, they can basically say whatever they want to.


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								And they have.


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								And so very recently we've had this huge crossover where Steve Kirsch has now amplified Andrew Kaufman, who was identified as the ringleader of the no-virus people in February of 2020 by none other than Kevin McCairn.


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								my own personal clown show that I think is based in Japan, but who knows?


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								I mean, it's at this stage, you know, impossible to understand.


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								So there's been a little freak out of silence on the internet since this video was released.


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								which basically indicated that the daughter of Sasha Latapova had been a longtime influencer of, let's say, ill repute on the internet before the pandemic, and in fact was amplified by none other than Alex Jones in 2019.


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								And it becomes more and more of a twisted narrative when you realize


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								the extent to which Sasha Latapova has been involved in crafting the dissident narrative when she appeared in front of Craig Pardecoper for the Bad Batches, when she appeared to take over the narrative of Catherine Watt about the legal aspects of things and distilled it down to the DOD as killing Americans.


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								And it becomes very, very curious that all of these people in this network that we're looking at have made recent appearances on Alex Jones in the last three or four years, that Alex Jones has returned to Twitter, the, what are we calling this?


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								Main street town hall, whatever, and is now being lauded as kind of a guy who can see around corners by people like Brett Weinstein and Robert Malone, who now say that they've been following him for years.


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								And so it becomes very frightening when we look back and we see that her daughter was busy with really disturbing videos.


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								Somebody making disturbing videos of her already several years before the pandemic.


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								Almost like they are testing the internet with podcasts and with influencers.


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								Here she is pretending to OD.


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								Um, which is not really something that, um, I would say a particularly great parent would allow to exist, be created, nevermind still be on the internet today.


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								Um, so it's a very, very disturbing place we're in because again, this is a girl who, if you just pause this here, um, we are talking about what, who these people.


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								Milo, Laura Loomer, I don't know who Briggs is, look at his face, Copper Cab.


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								So this is a network of people orchestrated and funded.


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								I don't see Mark Kulak in that picture.


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								I don't see Jonathan Cooley in that picture, but I do see the daughter of Sasha Latupova.


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								And if you listen to this video in particular, you hear things that I think are beyond reproach.


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								You hear things about her when she's pointing the gun at the screen, that she says things like, oh, I'm going to the gay parade, you know, just in case, this is how you do it.


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								And you can see her later shooting guns and saying things like, this is for you, Hitler, this is for you, Trump.


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								And that's very odd.


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								She's also talking in the beginning of the video, which I find the creepiest, about recruiting people to do bad things in America.


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								Particularly, I think she says Discord or something like that.


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								Which is odd because that may be where this kid from Bethel Park, just down the street from me, was actually recruited on Discord.


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								Although they say he had no social media presence at all.


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								If he was on Discord, it wouldn't be on his phone, you see?


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								So we're in a very interesting place when this is, these are the words of Sasha Latupova's daughter sometime during the pandemic because, and it's really likely that Sasha was filming this video because there's at least one photograph of Sasha and her daughter in this outfit with these guns, it looks like.


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								Certainly at this place, it seems to be.


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								So let's just play one minute of this so that we recall why we did the show two days ago and why it might be useful for you to see it if you haven't.


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								It's federal agent Clyde Cohen here.


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								Now, I know I'm not in uniform right now.


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								That's because I'm going undercover.


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								In light of all the recent false flag shootings, you might be wondering, how do I get on in on the action, you know?


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								What do I gotta do to be the lucky guy that gets recruited to do something crazy?


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								I might get in on that action.


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								Lucky for you, citizen of the United States, and Biden's Build Back Better bill, because he loves you so much, absconded in the 10,000 pages federal false flag subsidization program.


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								For example, if you're thinking, you know what, maybe I don't have the nerve to do something crazy.


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								We'll give you all the SSRIs and fluoride you need.


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								You're thinking, where do I get the money for these fancy guns?


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								Where do you think these like


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								So this person, this persona, has been in development for years.


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								Her position on the internet has been in development for years.


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								And her mom is Sasha Latapova.


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								Now, why is this important?


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								Well, because unlike myself, who got seven minutes to spit out as much as he could, and then Robert Malone took 40 more minutes, and Meryl Nass took 10 more minutes, and Jessica Rose took 10 more minutes, and then a very confused Tess Laurie took five minutes.


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								Sasha Latupova in 2023, remember the mom of Soph, who was featured on Alex Jones two or three times in 2019 as our American hero kid, was featured by Children's Health Defense no less than three times in 2023.


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								Once with meddler and longtime, I believe, deep state liar, Meryl Nass.


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								And then with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who was gonna give me an hour on his podcast until he saw the slide deck, and then they decided that they had to bring other people on board.


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								But Sasha Latupova needed two hours in 2023 to make sure that her message and her role as an American thought leader, which was later promoted on Epoch Times by a little podcast with the American thought leaders in the corner here,


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								So in 2023, there was a pretty big plug for this woman to become some kind of patriot on the pseudo neoconservative side of the Kennedy thing.


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								And the same people that are promoting Kennedy, like Brett Weinstein, were also on Alex Jones a couple weeks ago.


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								Robert Malone, also on Alex Jones a couple weeks ago.


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								Peter McCullough, and all of these people are doing the circuit.


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								David Martin was recently on Alex Jones.


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								David Martin was just covered on the Jimmy Dore by Mark Kulak last night.


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								And so you can see this network of human beings being promoted and promoting each other.


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								And then you can see in concert their amplification on foreign media, the amplification of these personas that are created to create the illusion of consensus that something's going wrong in America, that Americans have lost it.


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								And all around the world, that's the message that's being sent.


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								And that's why I really despise Sky News and the way that they do it, because they're not worried about their ally, America, being undermined from within.


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								The UK is not worried about their ally, America, being undermined from within.


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								Something is going just fine, apparently.


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								And the only thing's wrong is that these lefties are losing it or something like this.


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								The real message, the real effect is the idea of America is being destroyed around the world using this concert of liars.


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								I was interviewed on May 18th by this person named Gabe Mason.


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								And I was emailed yesterday that he's sorry, decided he's not going to go forward with his new project.


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								He's not going to publish that video after all.


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								I guess he's pretending that he didn't see that I already published that video and commented on it.


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								It's extraordinary, right?


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								Because I was also, right after the red pill, I was interviewed by Dr. Lee Merritt on June 27th.


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								It's now July 17th and there's still no release of the video.


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								Now she could be a good guy and the people that release her videos are not, I don't know.


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								But I realized in looking into her after the video, because I don't have, it's the only one I never made a recording of, something got screwed up here.


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								So I've been asking for the raw footage from her, but I haven't been offered a link or anything that way yet.


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								She said a week ago or more that she was editing the video and she loved it and she was taking notes, but I still haven't seen it.


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								I still haven't been given a link of it.


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								And I noticed in looking into her, it's hard to find where her podcast is, but it isn't hard to find that she was promoted as a COVID misinformation doctor by NPR, which is, you could see that as a promotion, non-promotion.


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								I mean, it seems like they're telling you that that's misinformation, but they're telling millions of people her name, telling millions of people where to find her and who's promoting her.


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								that what right wing media is promoting her.


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								They named all of it, Blaze News or Daily Wire or whatever.


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								How am I supposed to see it when people interview me on May 18th because they're supposed to be trying to do a brand new project and they've got 90 videos on YouTube and now they've decided they're just not going to release the video anymore.


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								How am I supposed to see it when somebody's really excited to interview me?


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								And I don't really say a lot of ums and ahs.


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								There's not a lot of pausing in the way that I talk.


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								And so I don't know what editing needs to be done.


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								Maybe you gotta paste on a beginning and an ending, but I think from June 27th to July 17th is enough if you make your primary living by podcasting.


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								I don't understand.


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								I want to be optimistic here, but I'm not very optimistic because we didn't talk about infectious clones in that interview.


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								We didn't talk about my red pill conference speech or presentation in that interview at all.


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								We talked about all kinds of other things.


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								And so I'm very frustrated because this has happened many times before.


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								Jessica Hock had hooked me up with a bunch of people from Panda after I'd already left Panda because Panda felt yucky to me when Mary the virologist and Jennifer the virologist, Jennifer the virologist was recently on Steve Kirsch's VSRF show.


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								I had left Panda in a couple of weeks after the third time I presented to them.


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								But the crazy thing is, is that Jessica Hockett tried to bring me back to Panda, tried to get me to log into the Slack again, and tried to get me to write something with these two guys that eventually wrote one of the worst virology reviews ever made, and claimed that they cited me in it.


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								Stop lying!


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								We have V. John Health, who promoted Robert Malone several times, who promotes Gerd van den Bosch like every week, and has had Kevin McCairn, Charles Rixey, and Christine Grace on as experts about amyloid and the lipid nanoparticle and lab leak.


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								And it's just a joke that they tried to promote me, but not really.


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								They're promoting this ridiculous Joe Lee


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								I can explain everything hypothesis.


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								He's just like, it's just like Marc Giraudeau, but with a different sales pitch and a different solution.


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								He thinks it's some kind of chaining up of antibodies and antigens and Marc Giraudeau thinks it's bolus and injecting wrong.


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								Room temperature coffee, great.


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								I don't know, you might be surprised or not surprised that very recently the guy who said that the ACE2 affinity in SARS-CoV-2 was orders of magnitude higher than the ferret in early 2020 and has testified many, many times about how this has to be a lab leak because my modeling data shows that the ACE2 affinity is way beyond normal.


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								And so I think it's really significant that although I am listed in this book on the acknowledgements page as being one of the guys that this was really necessary,


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								Um, really, really necessary, right?


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								Jonathan Cooey, right there.


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								There's my name.


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								This book would not have been possible without the expertise and invaluable insights provided by Jonathan Cooey, Gavin DeBecker, his head of security, Merrill Nass, Francis Boyle, Paul Thacker, Brett Weinstein, Lee Smith, John Jekielek.


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								Who's that?


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								That's frickin' Epoch Times.


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								Ellen Dewar, I've never met her.


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								Derek Harvey, never met him.


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								Stephen Quay, oh yeah, the guy from Australia who just showed that the, you know, was just on Vajon Health and demonstrated very early on that the Ace Two had crazy affinity.


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								So then we go Andrew Huff, oh wow, that's great.


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								Jeffrey Sachs, oh that's the guy who speaks more at the Vatican than anybody else.


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								Ah, Richard Ebright, the guy who said in the end of 2020 in November that we would kill 250,000 college students if we went back


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								without some kind of controls or mandates on how we do things at colleges.


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								And Annie Jacobson, I think she might be okay.


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								Hal Gold, Alex Yoska, and Stephan Kinzer.


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								Now, as far as I know, none of these people in this list, except for me, worked on the book on a daily basis.


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								Unless there was another group of people working on the book on a daily basis besides the one that I was a part of.


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								None of them.


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								They were all readers.


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								They all got, you know, got asked things or they're quoted in it.


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								But they weren't working on it every day.


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								They didn't have access to the document for many, many months or something like that.


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								They were given access at some point.


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								They were quoted at some point.


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								They were asked to read the part that they're in.


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								The only person on this list, the only one, is me.


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								Is that a big deal?


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								No, I don't think so because Bobby doesn't think I'm anybody and no one's talking to me anymore.


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								So I guess it's not that big a deal.


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								I just want you to understand why I think it's a big deal.


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								Why it feels like to me, I've actually seen the alien that everybody else says they're seeing.


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								That's why I think it's really important I was over here.


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								So I think it's really important to see this video and to understand that even then, in this video, I didn't understand that Robert Malone was working against us.


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								I didn't understand that Meryl Nass was working against us or Jessica Rose.


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								I thought this was flattery.


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								I thought this meant that my hypothesis was so important that Bobby wanted all of these people to comment on it.


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								And even after this video occurred, I still didn't see what they did to me.


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								I was frustrated, but not for the reasons that made sense.


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								And now here we are in 2024, and Robert Malone is giving us the skinny on the avian flu, and Children's Health Defense, who publishes his book, Sky Horse Publishing is gonna publish his Psy War book that's coming out in September.


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								Children's Health Defense and Brownstone Institute


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								are writing articles about about gain of function in avian flu and about how gain of function is ultimately the danger.


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								So the avian flu


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								narrative in the dissident circles are being buttressed on one side by a reasonable Robert Malone and on the other side by a little bit of a hysterical Brownstone Institute and CHD.


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								And that's pretty extraordinary because CHD let me go because I was interfering with their ability to interact with their partners, I presume to be the authors of the books like Robert Malone.


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								And now the Brownstone Institute and Robert Malone continue to bookend the narrative by talking about and telling us what we saw and what happened and where we should find our information on Twitter about Donald Trump's attempted assassination.


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								Robert Malone specifically says here, then put your big boy girl pants on and get ready to act.


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								I cannot predict what is about to happen, but it's not gonna be a gentlemanly disagreement.


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								They want civil war.


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								And the platform they want us to use to find out when to start the civil war is Elon Musk's X, because this is the platform, because of this platform, we know what we know.


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								And so I think it's really important to see that what Edward Bernays talked about is now visible if you just pause the program.


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								and see that podcasts and groups of liars are being used to manipulate society, manipulate opinions, manipulate the questions that we ask, to manipulate people into believing that they are actually being heard and that their concerns are being taken forward by other leaders.


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								When in reality, they did to Byron Bridle exactly what Bobby did to me with that book.


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								And that the other side of the coin is that people like Twiv are doing it to lots of people in academia and doing it to lots of people on the other side of this narrative that never really found their way to a dissident position.


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								with regard to the pandemic and what happened.


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								They still think that it was just a bunch of bad decisions put in place and put in motion by Trump.


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								And that's a simple enough explanation for them.


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								And the dark web is now recruiting and using other people to talk about Mike Yeadon and everything else.


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								And these people are all part of the same mechanism that is manipulating our opinions, manipulating what questions we ask.


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								manipulating what questions our children ask as they look at their phone and see an illusion of consensus that has nothing to do with what their parents think, nothing to do with what their grandparents think.


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								And the way that they've done this is with this incredible network of people that get together and ask questions and agree that these questions are the right questions to ask.


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								and they get together on others.


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								And they, you know, it doesn't matter what stage you go to, the UK, Australia, or America, the Joe Rogan podcast, or any of the people underneath him.


								50:45.835 --> 50:47.895

								It's just one pyramid of liars.


								50:51.796 --> 50:57.437

								And that pyramid is most aptly visible in my experiences on Twitter.


								50:59.924 --> 51:02.867

								most aptly visible with my experiences on Twitter.


								51:02.907 --> 51:04.709

								That's my testimony here.


								51:06.170 --> 51:13.858

								And so I really find it compelling if you really just inspect what's going on here.


								51:13.898 --> 51:23.947

								When you see that Kevin McCairn and Kevin McKernan, two people that should never be, never have been together in this narrative, were recently promoted in March.


								51:24.788 --> 51:35.935

								on the LifeSite News as being experts in prions, and he presented in Australia, or at least on Zoom to Australia.


								51:36.395 --> 51:43.039

								And then Kevin McKernan is also promoted, and his video is promoted in the same article.


								51:45.816 --> 51:48.618

								And so they might not be able to show this everywhere.


								51:49.058 --> 51:58.023

								Kevin McCarran has no chance of being an expert in America because it will immediately burn him and burn them.


								51:58.163 --> 52:02.706

								So he can be an expert in Australia because again, they see a different stage.


								52:05.461 --> 52:08.864

								And LifeSite News, that's already a place where only we go.


								52:09.665 --> 52:17.452

								And so putting them together in this article brings together two of these liars, these narrative curators from 2020.


								52:17.532 --> 52:25.980

								Two people that were already podcasting daily with other podcasters in February of 2020.


								52:26.040 --> 52:26.460

								Think about this.


								52:28.885 --> 52:36.768

								Think about how implausible it is that this guy up here was the one who said that Andy Kaufman had to be opposed.


								52:36.808 --> 52:50.173

								This guy up here said amyloid and prion disease is being caused by the spike protein, which is a gain of function incapacitating agent in 2020, and was sure of it, that a billion people could die.


								52:51.654 --> 52:56.816

								And this guy over here was sure that it's not really a novel virus, it just is, but the PCR works great.


								52:58.516 --> 53:05.219

								And I'm even using PCR to test the weed, because I'm afraid that the government's going to think that old people are getting sick from the weed.


								53:05.279 --> 53:07.280

								And so I got to already have this stuff going.


								53:07.720 --> 53:10.342

								So that's why I'm sequencing stuff in the weed.


								53:12.223 --> 53:12.503

								That was 2020.


								53:12.963 --> 53:18.286

								Now in 2024, they're together in a LifeSite article as experts on prions.


								53:19.226 --> 53:21.087

								And it's extraordinary.


								53:21.147 --> 53:23.028

								Now we have Kevin McKernan.


								53:24.446 --> 53:44.371

								the the human genome project long time deep state operative working for the government since his dad did probably and Charles Rixey one of the meddlers in my personal story that actually showed up at my freaking house with a woman and a toddler


								53:46.181 --> 53:56.734

								stayed overnight, did a stream with me that later, supposedly, Robert Malone sat Senator Ron Johnson and Robert F. Kennedy down and said, you got to watch this stream.


								53:57.155 --> 54:02.281

								And as a result of that, Robert F. Kennedy hired me and Charles Rixey to work on this red book.


								54:03.607 --> 54:27.826

								Now, just recently on the 14th and the 11th of July, it came to my attention because of Wolfgang that here's Kevin McKernan retweeting Charles Rixey talking about pandemic insurance and mentioning Nick from Panda and talking about metabiotic.


								54:27.846 --> 54:29.247

								Now, what I see here,


								54:30.379 --> 54:40.308

								Is Kevin McKernan basically indirectly saying that Metobiota and the front man of that, Nathan Wolfe, are legitimate virologists?


								54:40.629 --> 54:48.256

								They're also saying that Peter Daszak is a legitimate virologist because Hecal Health Alliance was doing things that was legitimate.


								54:50.697 --> 55:00.000

								And so Peter Daszak and Nathan Wolf are two central masterminds in the calamity that has occurred.


								55:00.160 --> 55:08.763

								And Charles Rixey, my personal little clown show meddler that usually is coordinating and sometimes even apparently staying in Japan.


								55:09.323 --> 55:20.227

								I don't know if he took his wife or his woman and his daughter there, but his staying in Japan with Kevin McCairn, a guy who I streamed with earliest of early of early, five weekends in a row.


								55:21.877 --> 55:29.163

								with another guy by the name of Paul Cottrell, who's still attached to the meddler of all meddlers, George Webb, today.


								55:30.284 --> 55:33.126

								These two guys now are tweeting each other as if, yeah, it's cool.


								55:34.187 --> 55:35.028

								It's totally cool.


								55:35.128 --> 55:36.949

								I agree totally on what you're talking about.


								55:36.989 --> 55:45.276

								It's the pandemic insurance game for real viruses, and Metalbiota was working on real viruses, and EcoHealth Alliances was working on real viruses.


								55:45.756 --> 55:46.557

								Stop lying!


								55:48.218 --> 55:49.559

								Stop lying!


								55:53.817 --> 55:55.338

								How do you explain this picture?


								55:56.379 --> 55:58.500

								Is it really just because I'm such a creep?


								56:00.122 --> 56:03.824

								Or is it because none of these people are legitimate actors?


								56:03.904 --> 56:07.267

								They are all participants in the narrative curation.


								56:08.388 --> 56:14.732

								They are all part of this, I hate the term deep state, but it's the only one that is broad enough.


								56:14.832 --> 56:20.877

								It is part of this intelligence operation, this military operation, whatever the hell this national security operation is.


								56:22.153 --> 56:28.679

								It is coordinated across five eyes countries with the idea of control demolishing the idea of America.


								56:30.721 --> 56:32.683

								Ahmed Malik is in on this.


								56:33.063 --> 56:37.347

								That's why he's so late to the party that he didn't do anything in 2020 or 2021 or 2022.


								56:37.447 --> 56:38.328

								And it might've mattered.


								56:42.807 --> 56:49.453

								Philip Buchholz is a guy who did testing very early on and then said that, well, the DNA contamination isn't that bad.


								56:49.493 --> 56:51.895

								I'd still give it to my parents, just not my daughter.


								56:52.876 --> 57:02.726

								And collaborated very hard with Kevin McKernan on the sequencing of the transfections, which we still call vaccines.


								57:03.752 --> 57:13.118

								Matthew Crawford claims over and over in his Bitcoin chat group that he tried to help me start a business, tried to help me write a book, and was doing everything for my family.


								57:14.019 --> 57:14.799

								Stop lying!


								57:16.340 --> 57:26.307

								He wanted me to start a business where people with Bitcoin could buy shares in collectibles that would be stored in airport lockers for shit's sake.


								57:28.001 --> 57:36.466

								Jessica Hockett befriended me and got me bamboozled by a bunch of people in, in, in Panda that wrote the worst virology thing ever.


								57:36.506 --> 57:38.527

								And then when I called them out on it, they blocked me.


								57:38.547 --> 57:39.307

								They didn't call.


								57:40.268 --> 57:42.989

								She didn't send me one of her charming voice messages anymore.


								57:43.029 --> 57:43.870

								She just blocked me.


								57:46.209 --> 57:49.971

								George Webb, the ultimate meddler, the guy with Paul Cuttrell.


								57:50.371 --> 58:05.799

								There's little Christine Grace, the lady that sent two emails to my employer saying that I was disparaging her when all I did was say that she went on Vajon Health and gave the shittiest presentation I've ever seen with the shittiest slide deck ever used.


								58:07.500 --> 58:11.182

								And she did it in coordination with Kevin McCarran and Charles Rixey.


								58:12.645 --> 58:21.551

								I see Joe Lee here, the guy with the big idea about spikes and antibodies making big chains that are resulting in autism.


								58:22.291 --> 58:26.094

								I see Simon Godek here who just blocked me for no reason.


								58:26.154 --> 58:27.475

								I just invited him to talk.


								58:28.736 --> 58:31.377

								I see Robert Malone's blocked me and unblocked me several times.


								58:31.838 --> 58:37.962

								Jessica Rose, the one that pointed out that there was no VAERS signal before the pandemic, but now there's a great big VAERS signal.


								58:38.905 --> 58:46.328

								and then made a living on that one story for four years straight while she was surfing on three continents.


								58:46.608 --> 59:00.455

								There's Adam Gardner, the guy that was selling ivermectin before it would have even seemed logical for somebody with his sketchy background to be selling ivermectin, and now he's still involved with the former feds and still meddling.


								59:01.275 --> 59:17.221

								This guy over here, Robin Martinati, is the guy who kept the lid on Mike Yeadon for like two years on Telegram and was like the moderator and curator of Mike Yeadon's Telegram and basically was a controller of him.


								59:18.282 --> 59:23.984

								That's why they split off and Mike Yeadon made his own Telegram thing because that dude flipped out on me one day.


								59:27.383 --> 59:42.245

								The entire story is here, all the way back to Yuri Dagan, who's one of the dudes who's in Drastic, who actually got to interview on Bret Weinstein's podcast in 2020 about the possibility of a lab leak before I even knew who Bret Weinstein was.


								59:50.649 --> 59:55.958

								And now we see that Kevin McKernan and Charles Rixey are exactly the same.


								59:56.559 --> 01:00:00.605

								They believe in exactly the same things, that Peter Daszak is a wizard.


								01:00:01.910 --> 01:00:17.164

								that Metobiota was a crazy, impressive company doing crazy, impressive biology, and the combination of these two existing is sufficient evidence to say for sure that this was a laboratory-created virus that's spinning around the world.


								01:00:17.324 --> 01:00:18.345

								That's the agreement.


								01:00:18.965 --> 01:00:26.492

								Even if Kevin McKernan doesn't say it, just by retweeting him and blocking me, that's where we are.


								01:00:27.987 --> 01:00:35.594

								And so once you see it, once the matrix stops, once you stop the program and realize that when you look around, all these people are working together and they have been.


								01:00:36.014 --> 01:00:41.299

								And the reason why it's become so obvious right now at this point in time is basically the red pill.


								01:00:42.981 --> 01:00:49.166

								Because it was that weekend that suddenly Steve Kirsch had to have Andy Kaufman on.


								01:00:52.129 --> 01:00:53.130

								It was that weekend.


								01:00:54.602 --> 01:00:58.964

								that all of this stuff started to happen, that they all lost their minds.


								01:00:59.991 --> 01:01:10.318

								It was that month that the ruse of Engler and Neal and Hudson and Hockett was exposed.


								01:01:10.978 --> 01:01:17.863

								When I was also simultaneously shelling all of these anonymous accounts, we just don't need to listen to them.


								01:01:18.363 --> 01:01:24.587

								There's no reason to listen to anybody who isn't putting their own life and liberty on the line.


								01:01:26.226 --> 01:01:31.608

								And you have to realize that these anonymous accounts are necessarily part of this theater.


								01:01:31.628 --> 01:01:34.929

								They are weaponized against us to create the illusion of consensus.


								01:01:35.009 --> 01:01:42.271

								If one of these meddlers tweets and three other anonymous accounts go, go get them, then the illusion of consensus is right there.


								01:01:45.540 --> 01:01:54.384

								And that's how we've all been fooled inside of these little groups, inside of these threads, in these endless message chains.


								01:01:54.884 --> 01:01:58.806

								The weaponized piles of money convinced us what to argue about, what questions to ask.


								01:01:58.926 --> 01:02:02.407

								And as a result, we accepted the presuppositions of those questions.


								01:02:02.887 --> 01:02:06.429

								And we are still being manipulated by that theater of lies today.


								01:02:10.065 --> 01:02:10.666

								you


								01:02:23.197 --> 01:02:25.718

								So what was mitobiota really?


								01:02:25.798 --> 01:02:27.599

								What can we do to understand this?


								01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:28.639

								I think we gotta go back.


								01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:29.939

								I always think we gotta go back.


								01:02:30.019 --> 01:02:33.661

								So it's always handy if the PBS NewsHour did a show.


								01:02:33.681 --> 01:02:36.542

								So let's see what the PBS NewsHour did.


								01:02:36.682 --> 01:02:41.724

								Finally tonight, the work of a scientist who spends his days tracking killer diseases.


								01:02:44.945 --> 01:02:47.966

								A nondescript office building in downtown San Francisco


								01:02:48.359 --> 01:02:53.221

								may seem like an unlikely headquarters for one of the world's most prominent virus hunters.


								01:02:53.881 --> 01:03:04.386

								But it's where Stanford University biologist Nathan Wolfe has set up his war room to monitor and study new and potentially deadly viruses emerging around the globe.


								01:03:05.006 --> 01:03:08.707

								It looks like we're going to release an Ebola finding on Monday.


								01:03:08.867 --> 01:03:14.750

								The 41-year-old Wolfe is the founder and director of the Global Viral Forecasting Initiative.


								01:03:15.250 --> 01:03:17.531

								The mission sounds simple, but it's not.


								01:03:18.186 --> 01:03:18.566

								Who was that?


								01:03:18.586 --> 01:03:19.107

								Who was that?


								01:03:32.159 --> 01:03:38.023

								It's a mix of high-tech detective work and old-fashioned, on-the-ground epidemiology research.


								01:03:38.563 --> 01:03:44.047

								And it's the subject of his new book, The Viral Storm, The Dawn of a New Pandemic Age.


								01:03:44.688 --> 01:03:46.449

								I sat down with Wolf in his office.


								01:03:47.089 --> 01:03:51.232

								What we're looking at is this interface between human and animal populations.


								01:03:51.712 --> 01:03:59.378

								And we're trying to basically catch the really early stages of these pandemics, the moment at which, frankly, the pandemic is born or an epidemic is born.


								01:03:59.838 --> 01:04:06.726

								And I always joke that- So how is it possible already with this five minutes, three minutes, one minute of video?


								01:04:07.787 --> 01:04:09.189

								I don't believe a word he's saying.


								01:04:09.329 --> 01:04:10.670

								I think he's completely fake.


								01:04:13.013 --> 01:04:18.279

								But Charles Rixey thinks that this is a real virologist and probably responsible for it.


								01:04:20.916 --> 01:04:22.537

								Do you see the ridiculousness of it?


								01:04:22.597 --> 01:04:29.220

								Now go watch Peter Daszak on 60 Minutes from 2003 or whenever it was.


								01:04:29.260 --> 01:04:32.942

								And then watch Peter Daszak when he's on 60 Minutes a few years later again.


								01:04:34.083 --> 01:04:44.968

								And tell me you don't see the same ridiculous joke where the illusion, where the illusion of pandemic potential is being created.


								01:04:46.476 --> 01:04:56.326

								Does it surprise you that it's being created on PBS NewsHour years before the pandemic by somebody who is intimately connected with Vice President Biden?


								01:04:59.348 --> 01:04:59.809

								It shouldn't.


								01:05:01.210 --> 01:05:08.698

								What should surprise you is the insistence on the idea that this is a legitimate, this is legitimate evidence that COVID is real.


								01:05:09.602 --> 01:05:22.131

								that this guy is legitimate evidence that COVID is real is what exposes Kevin McKernan and Charles Rixey and that whole crew of people as being full of shit.


								01:05:23.232 --> 01:05:28.516

								And all you gotta do is stop the program and see it for what it is because that is the moment we're at.


								01:05:29.389 --> 01:05:33.311

								It is a moment where the contradiction is too great.


								01:05:34.071 --> 01:05:38.233

								And let me make sure that I am reminding you again of what I'm talking about.


								01:05:38.333 --> 01:05:40.995

								I am talking about this particular slide right here.


								01:05:42.795 --> 01:05:45.317

								Where Charles Rixey on July 11th.


								01:05:46.687 --> 01:05:48.269

								has tweeted directed evolution.


								01:05:48.329 --> 01:06:03.264

								Now an 18 month old project of Pfizer doing gain of function research for money is just like EcoHealth Alliance was doing the predict program included EHA and metal biota funded by a Biden who sold pandemic insurance.


								01:06:03.304 --> 01:06:04.705

								And then here's him agreeing with him.


								01:06:04.745 --> 01:06:04.825

								Yeah.


								01:06:04.845 --> 01:06:10.411

								And the pandemic insurance game is where Nick Hudson was from and why he's crying about it now.


								01:06:13.840 --> 01:06:24.608

								That's extraordinary, ladies and gentlemen, because let's watch Middle Biota's president or founder on PBS NewsHour.


								01:06:24.788 --> 01:06:25.289

								He's not real.


								01:06:25.309 --> 01:06:30.072

								Finally tonight, the work of a scientist who spends his days tracking killer diseases.


								01:06:33.295 --> 01:06:41.561

								A nondescript office building in downtown San Francisco may seem like an unlikely headquarters for one of the world's most prominent virus hunters.


								01:06:42.227 --> 01:06:52.712

								But it's where Stanford University biologist Nathan Wolfe has set up his war room to monitor and study new and potentially deadly viruses emerging around the globe.


								01:06:53.332 --> 01:06:57.053

								It looks like we're gonna release an Ebola finding on Monday.


								01:06:57.193 --> 01:07:03.076

								The 41-year-old Wolfe is the founder and director of the Global Viral Forecasting Initiative.


								01:07:03.596 --> 01:07:05.917

								The mission sounds simple, but it's not.


								01:07:06.477 --> 01:07:08.278

								So what we're looking for here.


								01:07:08.398 --> 01:07:10.039

								Potentially deadly viruses


								01:07:15.530 --> 01:07:17.050

								Watch that lady right there.


								01:07:17.150 --> 01:07:18.590

								Can you see my mouse?


								01:07:18.670 --> 01:07:21.071

								Watch this lady.


								01:07:21.271 --> 01:07:22.291

								See that lady right there?


								01:07:23.032 --> 01:07:23.372

								Watch.


								01:07:23.392 --> 01:07:26.092

								They're gonna show her again.


								01:07:26.793 --> 01:07:30.514

								It looks like we're gonna release an Ebola finding on Monday.


								01:07:30.654 --> 01:07:36.535

								The 41-year-old wolf is the founder and director of the Global Viral Forecasting Initiative.


								01:07:37.055 --> 01:07:39.376

								The mission sounds simple, but it's not.


								01:07:39.976 --> 01:07:43.157

								Detect pandemics and stop them before they spread.


								01:07:43.843 --> 01:07:55.986

								How Wolf and his team do that is a mix of high-tech detective work and old-fashioned... Wolf and his team do that is a mix of high-tech detective work and old-fashioned... See that lady?


								01:07:56.066 --> 01:07:57.486

								...epidemiology research.


								01:07:58.026 --> 01:08:03.527

								And it's the subject of his new book, The Viral Storm, the Dawn of a New Pandemic Age.


								01:08:04.148 --> 01:08:05.868

								I sat down with Wolf in his office.


								01:08:06.550 --> 01:08:10.694

								What we're looking at is this interface between human and animal populations.


								01:08:11.174 --> 01:08:18.921

								And we're trying to basically catch the really early stages of these pandemics, the moment at which, frankly, the pandemic is born or an epidemic is born.


								01:08:19.301 --> 01:08:27.388

								And I always joke that if you go to Ocean Beach here in San Francisco, you'll always see people running up and kissing their dogs.


								01:08:27.428 --> 01:08:29.410

								And that's a moment of cross-species transmission.


								01:08:30.630 --> 01:08:32.291

								Oh my gosh, what an idiot.


								01:08:32.791 --> 01:08:35.952

								I only hear Rick Bright's voice when I hear him talking.


								01:08:35.992 --> 01:08:40.834

								So now they're gonna show bits of the movie Contagion, which is also handy, isn't it?


								01:08:40.914 --> 01:08:44.636

								The average person touches their face three to five times every waking minute.


								01:08:45.056 --> 01:08:48.898

								In between, we're touching doorknobs, water fountains, and each other.


								01:08:49.778 --> 01:08:56.541

								A much more serious but fictional cross-species transmission was the focus of this summer's thriller, Contagion.


								01:08:57.219 --> 01:09:00.921

								in which millions died from a virus found in pigs and bats.


								01:09:01.481 --> 01:09:03.822

								Wolf was a technical director on the film.


								01:09:04.382 --> 01:09:14.247

								In the real world, viruses, the microscopic pathogens that invade and destroy host cells, have been jumping from animals to humans for ages.


								01:09:16.448 --> 01:09:21.370

								But with the huge increases in modern air traffic, an outbreak in one country


								01:09:22.393 --> 01:09:27.017

								Of course he has a biohazard sticker on his Mac.


								01:09:27.117 --> 01:09:27.998

								Of course he does.


								01:09:28.118 --> 01:09:29.560

								Look at air traffic network.


								01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:33.043

								They're showing you how it's gonna happen.


								01:09:33.363 --> 01:09:38.548

								The challenge that we face right now is we're so interconnected that these viruses can spread


								01:09:39.329 --> 01:09:39.970

								in a day.


								01:09:40.591 --> 01:09:41.692

								You're absolutely right.


								01:09:42.053 --> 01:09:49.422

								Interacting with dogs, I mean it's already, there's lots of evidence out there that people who have pets have far fewer allergies.


								01:09:49.882 --> 01:09:56.290

								It's just absurd to say that when you kiss your dog it's a cross-species transmission event.


								01:09:56.811 --> 01:09:57.291

								But again,


								01:09:58.032 --> 01:10:04.174

								Remember, this is supposed to be a serious virologist, according to Charles Rixey and Kevin McKernan.


								01:10:04.674 --> 01:10:06.775

								And Kevin McCairn, and all these people.


								01:10:07.235 --> 01:10:11.976

								Very serious virologists worth funding to the tune of millions of dollars.


								01:10:12.116 --> 01:10:14.037

								Don't you see how ridiculous it is?


								01:10:16.061 --> 01:10:17.662

								I hope you can see it around the world.


								01:10:17.682 --> 01:10:20.725

								You know, they can go from Central Africa, Southeast Asia.


								01:10:20.745 --> 01:10:21.726

								They can get to Tokyo.


								01:10:21.766 --> 01:10:22.867

								They can get to New York City.


								01:10:23.187 --> 01:10:24.288

								That's crystal clear.


								01:10:25.269 --> 01:10:37.519

								That global interconnectedness was highlighted in recent years with the SARS outbreak in 2003 and more recently with the H1N1 swine flu virus started in Mexico.


								01:10:38.109 --> 01:10:39.870

								it quickly infected millions.


								01:10:40.150 --> 01:10:50.353

								And that swine flu was the one where we watched the video from the Netherlands where they're like, yes, 35,000 or 35 million doses were ordered and he shows the phone.


								01:10:52.313 --> 01:10:53.794

								It's all the same scam.


								01:10:53.834 --> 01:10:54.694

								And then there's AIDS.


								01:10:55.294 --> 01:11:01.576

								At a 2009 TED talk, Wolf pointed out that millions of lives could potentially have been saved


								01:11:02.156 --> 01:11:07.019

								if the AIDS virus had been discovered when it first crossed from chimps to humans.


								01:11:07.639 --> 01:11:11.341

								This photo was taken before the Great Depression in Brazzaville, Congo.


								01:11:11.641 --> 01:11:15.323

								At this time, there were thousands of individuals, we think, that were infected with HIV.


								01:11:15.924 --> 01:11:22.988

								If this virus was in thousands of individuals at this point, why was it the case that it took us until 1984 to be able to discover this virus?


								01:11:24.869 --> 01:11:30.972

								At his headquarters, Wolf has assembled a team of savvy young computer gurus who comb the Internet.


								01:11:31.423 --> 01:11:37.964

								using sophisticated algorithms to search for the digital clues that could indicate the outbreak of a disease.


								01:11:38.854 --> 01:11:44.315

								People, if they're sick, they'll search on a certain kind of symptoms, or at least a number of them will.


								01:11:44.615 --> 01:11:54.358

								So at every moment, whether people are searching or tweeting or texting, people are increasingly sending off massive amounts of data.


								01:11:54.818 --> 01:12:04.740

								Is he arguing for the idea that Palantir, for example, might be able to scrape the internet for signals that would indicate early signals of a pending pandemic?


								01:12:06.749 --> 01:12:07.850

								It sounds like that to me.


								01:12:08.110 --> 01:12:16.054

								It sounds like they're talking about scraping internet data for signals that indicate pandemic potential, which is an extraordinary thing.


								01:12:16.114 --> 01:12:23.339

								It's not really the same as using metagenomic sequencing to look into the background noise, which is what I think they also do.


								01:12:24.119 --> 01:12:32.583

								So this is another interesting side to put to this, where again, remember Kevin McCurden and Charles Rixey and Kevin McCairn and everybody else.


								01:12:32.723 --> 01:12:40.746

								I think also Robert Malone and the whole Nine Yards would say that Nathan Wolfe is a legitimate dude who got legitimate money to do legitimate things.


								01:12:40.886 --> 01:12:44.208

								Give us potential clues into what they're doing, what they're thinking.


								01:12:46.394 --> 01:12:52.819

								But to really understand what viral threats are lurking out there, Wolf has to get out... Look at how dirty he is.


								01:12:52.899 --> 01:12:57.042

								His shoes are so dirty.


								01:12:57.342 --> 01:12:59.143

								Look how fake that is.


								01:12:59.203 --> 01:13:00.504

								Look how fake that is.


								01:13:00.544 --> 01:13:06.529

								That dude needed knee-high boots, but Nathan Wolf didn't need knee-high boots.


								01:13:06.569 --> 01:13:07.910

								He could go out there in dress shoes.


								01:13:10.404 --> 01:13:16.429

								But to really understand what viral threats are lurking out there, Wolf has to get out of the office.


								01:13:16.950 --> 01:13:18.852

								Speak French with this guy for a second.


								01:13:18.872 --> 01:13:21.454

								You just pretend like you understand.


								01:13:21.474 --> 01:13:21.814

								He's...


								01:13:30.856 --> 01:13:33.437

								This is the national security operation right here.


								01:13:33.838 --> 01:13:47.505

								It was started years ago with performances by people like Nathan Wolf that went on TED Talks, that went in front of the UN, that went in front of lanyard-covered audiences.


								01:13:51.487 --> 01:13:59.411

								Wolf and his colleagues have been trekking through dense jungles in West Africa and parts of Asia, studying the close interactions between humans


								01:13:59.983 --> 01:14:01.684

								and the animals they hunt and eat.


								01:14:02.345 --> 01:14:12.192

								The unhygienic conditions in which the bushmeat, or wild game, is captured, prepared, and eaten allows blood, bodily fluids, and viruses


								01:14:12.588 --> 01:14:14.509

								to pass between hunter and prey.


								01:14:14.989 --> 01:14:21.632

								We've been working, say, in parts of Central Africa for over 10, 12 years, just working with these populations year in and year out.


								01:14:21.652 --> 01:14:28.535

								And we're able to document this sometime, literally to watch these viruses as they're jumping over from animals into human populations.


								01:14:28.916 --> 01:14:37.520

								We see novel retroviruses, so viruses that are in the same broad family as HIV, moving over into these hunters from animals that they've hunted.


								01:14:38.635 --> 01:14:46.999

								Wolf's team has collected more than 200,000 blood and tissue samples from animals, hunters and their families in Africa and Asia.


								01:14:47.605 --> 01:14:51.647

								field labs Wolf describes as excellent catch in the chat.


								01:14:52.287 --> 01:15:11.695

								It's definitely true that the Defense Intelligence Agency created a 501 c3 called the global viral forecasting Institute, which is what became metabiotic and so you can see it for what it is there the ties to Ukraine and to the Biden family go to this metabiotic and go to this sort of


								01:15:12.867 --> 01:15:14.508

								construction of a narrative.


								01:15:14.588 --> 01:15:19.109

								Now, I don't know if they were making molecules over there that they would later detect.


								01:15:19.589 --> 01:15:28.752

								I don't know if they were making the small protein toxin that they released or whatever the story is and whatever was made over there in Ukraine or not made over there.


								01:15:28.792 --> 01:15:38.716

								The illusion that this stuff was happening is what creates the illusion of pandemic potential, but they probably weren't doing anything but renting office space.


								01:15:40.370 --> 01:15:41.591

								That's what you need to see.


								01:15:42.352 --> 01:15:52.480

								If they brought diplomats over there and pretended to carry suitcases with shit in them, it would just create the illusion of pandemic potential in Ukraine.


								01:15:53.380 --> 01:15:56.483

								Create the illusion of bioweapons labs in Ukraine.


								01:15:56.923 --> 01:16:02.288

								The illusion of bioweapons, of laboratories is very easy to create and amplify.


								01:16:02.328 --> 01:16:04.850

								And it seems like to me, that's what they did.


								01:16:05.899 --> 01:16:07.820

								We never saw any evidence of the labs.


								01:16:07.860 --> 01:16:10.441

								We were told that the Russians went in there because of the labs.


								01:16:11.241 --> 01:16:12.822

								We were told the labs were there, why?


								01:16:12.882 --> 01:16:14.003

								Because of metabiota.


								01:16:14.083 --> 01:16:23.827

								So Nathan Wolf, again, is a guy who apparently is so smart, so brilliant, that he was given this high of a role in the national security state.


								01:16:23.847 --> 01:16:25.308

								And I just think- Stop lying!


								01:16:25.328 --> 01:16:26.608

								I just think that's crazy.


								01:16:26.668 --> 01:16:29.409

								There's no way in hell that guy is in that role.


								01:16:29.429 --> 01:16:30.830

								Viral listening posts.


								01:16:31.499 --> 01:16:38.352

								Those samples are continuously analyzed by scientists for signs that new pathogens are crossing over to humans.


								01:16:39.338 --> 01:17:01.430

								A lot of the places that you identify as sort of the petri dishes for future threats are also places with tiny gross national products, places that just getting through the day is a big enough threat, much less worrying about tiny viruses and future threats that are somewhere out there in the forest.


								01:17:02.099 --> 01:17:04.060

								Look, I think this is a really pivotal point.


								01:17:04.201 --> 01:17:05.181

								We'll sit with these populations.


								01:17:05.201 --> 01:17:08.103

								They say, look, yes, we understand animals get sick and die.


								01:17:08.143 --> 01:17:09.164

								We see sick animals.


								01:17:09.544 --> 01:17:11.726

								We also know that we can acquire some of these illnesses.


								01:17:12.466 --> 01:17:15.228

								Our family members have been hunting and butchering all their lives.


								01:17:15.849 --> 01:17:19.051

								You know, this is our primary source, at least for now, for animal protein.


								01:17:19.431 --> 01:17:27.016

								As a virologist, I didn't sort of expect that I would come to advocating for focusing on rural poverty and protein alternatives.


								01:17:27.056 --> 01:17:28.638

								And so this is a really pivotal point.


								01:17:28.778 --> 01:17:29.738

								We'll sit with these populations.


								01:17:29.778 --> 01:17:30.239

								They say, look,


								01:17:30.859 --> 01:17:32.640

								Yes, we understand animals get sick and die.


								01:17:32.680 --> 01:17:33.721

								We see sick animals.


								01:17:34.081 --> 01:17:36.282

								We also know that we can acquire some of these illnesses.


								01:17:37.023 --> 01:17:39.784

								Our family members have been hunting and butchering all their lives.


								01:17:40.385 --> 01:17:43.607

								You know, this is our primary source, at least for now, for animal protein.


								01:17:43.987 --> 01:17:51.892

								As a virologist, I didn't sort of expect that I would... In 2011, he's talking about our primary source of protein being animal protein?


								01:17:51.932 --> 01:17:52.272

								Wow.


								01:17:52.952 --> 01:17:55.314

								And that it might not be that way forever?


								01:17:56.730 --> 01:18:00.811

								Seems like he's read in on a little bit more than virology.


								01:18:02.672 --> 01:18:17.697

								Seems like the source of the pandemic, you know, pandemic potential being Peter Daszak and EcoHealth Alliance and Nathan Wolf and Metobiota seems based a lot on a PBS NewsHour portrayal of him.


								01:18:18.695 --> 01:18:22.456

								rather than the real biology that he engaged in or didn't engage in.


								01:18:22.556 --> 01:18:32.339

								I find it very, very interesting that Kevin McKernan and Charles Rixey are essentially pushing the same bullshit narrative.


								01:18:33.100 --> 01:18:34.240

								It's extraordinary.


								01:18:35.020 --> 01:18:42.262

								After four and a half years that these two traitors to America are coming together on Twitter.


								01:18:42.863 --> 01:18:44.143

								Let me go back because that wasn't over.


								01:18:46.894 --> 01:18:51.475

								literally to watch these viruses as they're jumping over from animals into human populations.


								01:18:51.855 --> 01:19:00.537

								We see novel retroviruses, so viruses that are in the same broad family as HIV, moving over into these hunters from animals that they've hunted.


								01:19:01.557 --> 01:19:07.758

								Wolf's team has collected more than 200,000 blood and tissue samples from animals, hunters.


								01:19:07.798 --> 01:19:13.059

								He claims to find retroviruses moving from the animals to these people, and I think that's got to be a lie.


								01:19:13.099 --> 01:19:14.180

								I've not seen the paper.


								01:19:14.200 --> 01:19:16.180

								And their families in Africa and Asia.


								01:19:16.786 --> 01:19:19.347

								Field labs Wolf describes as viral.


								01:19:19.367 --> 01:19:23.349

								What you do get with those samples, though, are our DNA.


								01:19:23.649 --> 01:19:29.191

								And so they might have sampled the animals, but I bet you they sampled all the people in these places to listening posts.


								01:19:29.851 --> 01:19:36.694

								Those samples are continuously analyzed by scientists for signs that new pathogens crossing over to humans.


								01:19:37.679 --> 01:19:59.791

								A lot of the places that you identify as sort of the petri dishes for future threats are also places with tiny gross national products, places that just getting through the day is a big enough threat, much less worrying about tiny viruses and future threats that are somewhere out there in the forest.


								01:20:00.461 --> 01:20:02.422

								Look, I think this is a really pivotal point.


								01:20:02.562 --> 01:20:03.542

								We'll sit with these populations.


								01:20:03.562 --> 01:20:06.443

								They say, look, yes, we understand animals get sick and die.


								01:20:06.483 --> 01:20:07.524

								We see sick animals.


								01:20:07.884 --> 01:20:10.085

								We also know that we can acquire some of these illnesses.


								01:20:10.825 --> 01:20:13.586

								Our family members have been hunting and butchering all their lives.


								01:20:14.187 --> 01:20:17.448

								You know, this is our primary source, at least for now, for animal protein.


								01:20:17.788 --> 01:20:27.252

								As a virologist, I didn't sort of expect that I would come to advocating for focusing on rural poverty and protein alternatives in Central Africa, but that's part of the problem.


								01:20:28.413 --> 01:20:48.324

								the significance of wolf's work is reflected in the organization supporting it the department of defense the national institutes of health and the school and gates foundations which also fund the news hour school foundation and the gates foundation that also fund the news hour and school foundation also funds


								01:20:49.341 --> 01:20:53.824

								The VSRF of Steve Kirsch, so now you know.


								01:20:54.365 --> 01:20:59.529

								Almost every time there's one of these outbreaks, it's a new virus from animals that jump into humans.


								01:20:59.989 --> 01:21:10.457

								What keeps him up at night, and the reason why there's been so much interest in his work, is the threat of a super killer virus that's both easily transmittable and lethal.


								01:21:11.017 --> 01:21:13.299

								These viruses mutate at an incredible rate.


								01:21:13.659 --> 01:21:18.123

								So something which is highly transmissible but not very deadly could become very deadly.


								01:21:19.304 --> 01:21:35.431

								When H1N1, the so-called swine flu, was on its way racing around the world, one of the dangers is that it would get into some pig or some duck or even a person that was simultaneously infected with another strain of flu, for example, something like H5N1.


								01:21:36.852 --> 01:21:39.914

								and that these viruses would actually sort of mix and match genes.


								01:21:40.214 --> 01:21:48.380

								If that happened, there was that small probability where we would get a virus that had the capacity to spread effectively and had the capacity to kill.


								01:21:48.480 --> 01:21:50.862

								And that's the thing that obviously we're all afraid of.


								01:21:51.822 --> 01:21:55.725

								Wolf says too much attention is placed on responses to outbreaks.


								01:21:56.351 --> 01:22:00.092

								and more funding and research needs to be placed on early detection.


								01:22:00.772 --> 01:22:07.534

								Pandemic prevention, this is increasingly something that people are recognizing as an issue, but it's gonna take some time for the resource.


								01:22:07.674 --> 01:22:12.696

								Even the term pandemic prevention makes you accept pandemic potential.


								01:22:15.537 --> 01:22:25.240

								If I say leprechaun prevention, and you think that leprechaun prevention is something that should be in the phone book, then you accept that leprechauns exist.


								01:22:26.129 --> 01:22:31.791

								It's incredible how what this was done in 2011 when we were not paying attention like we are now.


								01:22:32.351 --> 01:22:39.074

								We had no idea that this was the level and the depth that they would go to for all the marbles, how long they would plan it.


								01:22:39.114 --> 01:22:40.134

								But this is how long.


								01:22:40.795 --> 01:22:45.156

								That's why Tony Fauci is where he was for as long as he was.


								01:22:45.857 --> 01:22:48.818

								See it for what it is, ladies and gentlemen.


								01:22:50.083 --> 01:22:50.783

								This is to catch up.


								01:22:51.103 --> 01:22:55.866

								We need, you know, basically hundreds of millions of dollars to do this work.


								01:22:55.926 --> 01:22:57.586

								Really, at the end of the day, billions of dollars.


								01:22:57.806 --> 01:23:00.167

								And I just think it can't be reiterated enough.


								01:23:00.628 --> 01:23:04.189

								These are not the kind of things that should be cut when it comes time to cutting budgets.


								01:23:05.070 --> 01:23:09.852

								If so, we're just sitting there, bullets are dodging left and right, and we're basically ignoring the shooters.


								01:23:10.595 --> 01:23:12.176

								The book is The Viral Storm.


								01:23:12.216 --> 01:23:13.357

								Nathan Wolf, thanks a lot.


								01:23:13.937 --> 01:23:14.378

								Thank you.


								01:23:14.898 --> 01:23:15.458

								Thank you.


								01:23:15.719 --> 01:23:17.560

								Okay, so let's watch the next video.


								01:23:17.600 --> 01:23:22.643

								I think it's from a little bit... I think this is the TED Talk that they just showed there.


								01:23:24.305 --> 01:23:29.008

								Gremlin outbreak avoidance means not feeding things after midnight and also avoiding water.


								01:23:33.775 --> 01:23:39.239

								Recently I visited Beloit, Wisconsin, and I was there to honor a great 20th century explorer.


								01:23:39.439 --> 01:23:40.820

								Beloit, Wisconsin?


								01:23:41.320 --> 01:23:44.222

								Mark, tell me there's something about Beloit, Wisconsin.


								01:23:45.063 --> 01:23:46.604

								What about Beloit, Wisconsin?


								01:23:47.144 --> 01:23:47.905

								Holy shit.


								01:23:48.505 --> 01:23:49.946

								What about Beloit, Wisconsin?


								01:23:49.966 --> 01:23:53.589

								Did we just, you just covered something about Cory in Beloit, Wisconsin.


								01:23:53.629 --> 01:23:55.410

								Now he's, this looks like a recent one.


								01:23:55.430 --> 01:23:59.253

								This looks like around the same time as the book because he doesn't have curly hair.


								01:23:59.293 --> 01:24:00.094

								There's an earlier,


								01:24:01.536 --> 01:24:04.242

								Ted Talk where he has curly hair, so I might have gotten these two mixed up.


								01:24:05.625 --> 01:24:07.029

								Oh my gosh, I'm going to play that again.


								01:24:07.129 --> 01:24:09.474

								He was recently in Beloit, Wisconsin.


								01:24:26.095 --> 01:24:33.459

								Recently, I visited Beloit, Wisconsin, and I was there to honor a great 20th century explorer, Roy Chapman Andrews.


								01:24:34.039 --> 01:24:41.463

								During his time at the American Museum of Natural History... That was where the famotidine trial was handled by Robert Malone.


								01:24:41.523 --> 01:24:42.744

								That's fantastic.


								01:24:42.824 --> 01:24:47.006

								It's right south of Madison, Wisconsin, where Pierre Cory


								01:24:47.866 --> 01:24:48.387

								was working.


								01:24:48.447 --> 01:24:50.728

								It's just an interesting thing that he mentions Beloit.


								01:24:51.068 --> 01:24:56.391

								Andrew's led a range of expeditions to uncharted regions, like here in the Gobi Desert.


								01:24:56.731 --> 01:24:57.832

								He was quite a figure.


								01:24:58.072 --> 01:25:01.454

								He was later, it's said, the basis of the Indiana Jones character.


								01:25:02.671 --> 01:25:07.953

								And when I was in Beloit, Wisconsin, I gave a public lecture to a group of middle school students.


								01:25:08.693 --> 01:25:17.597

								And I'm here to tell you, if there's anything more intimidating than talking here at TED, it'll be trying to hold the attention of a group of 1,000 12-year-olds for a 45-minute lecture.


								01:25:18.677 --> 01:25:19.518

								Don't try that one.


								01:25:21.018 --> 01:25:22.899

								At the end of the lecture, they asked me... Why?


								01:25:24.537 --> 01:25:32.384

								Why would Nathan Wolf of Meadowbiota be lecturing a thousand middle school students?


								01:25:34.425 --> 01:25:39.830

								I mean, that's really a big problem for me.


								01:25:40.591 --> 01:25:42.092

								Why would that be happening?


								01:25:45.100 --> 01:25:51.204

								because he's such a great virologist, like Kevin McKernan and Charles Rixey seem to agree about?


								01:25:51.224 --> 01:25:56.228

								I asked a number of questions, but there was one that's really stuck with me since then.


								01:25:56.288 --> 01:26:01.131

								There was a young girl who stood up, and she asked the question, where should we explore?


								01:26:01.151 --> 01:26:13.940

								I think there's a sense that many of us have that the great age of exploration on Earth is over, that for the next generation, they're gonna have to go to outer space or the deepest oceans in order to find something significant to explore.


								01:26:14.977 --> 01:26:16.241

								But is that really the case?


								01:26:17.204 --> 01:26:20.353

								Is there really nowhere significant for us to explore left here on Earth?


								01:26:21.508 --> 01:26:25.530

								sort of made me think back to one of my favorite explorers in the history of biology.


								01:26:25.910 --> 01:26:28.991

								This is an explorer of the unseen world, Martinus Biring.


								01:26:29.551 --> 01:26:33.373

								So Biring set out to discover the cause of tobacco mosaic disease.


								01:26:33.853 --> 01:26:40.075

								What he did is he took the infected juice from tobacco plants and he would filter it through smaller and smaller filters.


								01:26:40.635 --> 01:26:49.699

								And he reached the point where he felt that there must be something out there that was smaller than the smallest forms of life that were ever known, bacteria at the time.


								01:26:50.719 --> 01:26:53.200

								He came up with a name for his mystery agent.


								01:26:53.240 --> 01:27:17.086

								He called it the virus Latin for poison and in sort of uncovering viruses By rank really opened this entire new world for us We now know that viruses make up the majority of the genetic information on our planet more than the genetic information all other forms of life combined and so there's more background DNA and RNA from viruses and


								01:27:18.399 --> 01:27:22.871

								than all the other DNA on earth, which is a pretty bold statement.


								01:27:22.931 --> 01:27:26.360

								And it means that the background is far from zero.


								01:27:28.467 --> 01:27:32.511

								like many, many, many orders of magnitude far from zero.


								01:27:33.291 --> 01:27:36.855

								So we're already putting out a picture that's very different.


								01:27:36.875 --> 01:27:53.990

								He's got a picture of bacteriophages here, but he's not being very specific in terms of the idea that bacteriophages have much more proof of existence than some of the RNA viruses and retroviruses that are claimed by the national security state and public health.


								01:27:54.170 --> 01:28:07.320

								And obviously there's been tremendous practical applications associated with this world, things like the eradication of smallpox, the advent of a vaccine against cervical cancer, which we now know is mostly caused by human papillomavirus.


								01:28:08.160 --> 01:28:18.247

								And Byron's discovery... So he's arguing for an HPV vaccine, which we already know from the movie Vaxxed 2 is one of the most abhorrent


								01:28:20.090 --> 01:28:21.351

								vaccines on the schedule.


								01:28:21.371 --> 01:28:36.402

								And it's actually really awful to think that the vaccine is also be given to boys because they might transmit this virus sexually and give their mate uterine cancer, which is just absolutely absurd.


								01:28:37.102 --> 01:28:44.648

								But here he is in front of a lot of adults telling them that this is the way it is and that there's an illusion of consensus that this is the way it is.


								01:28:44.948 --> 01:28:46.369

								This was not something that occurred 500 years ago.


								01:28:48.150 --> 01:28:52.554

								It was little over a hundred years ago that BioRank discovered viruses.


								01:28:52.894 --> 01:28:59.179

								So basically, we had automobiles, but we were unaware of the forms of life that make up most of the genetic information on our planet.


								01:29:00.360 --> 01:29:04.423

								We now have these amazing tools to allow us to explore the unseen world.


								01:29:04.944 --> 01:29:15.052

								Things like deep sequencing, which allow us to do much more than just sort of skim the surface and look at individual genomes from a particular species, but to look at entire metagenomes.


								01:29:15.632 --> 01:29:19.573

								the communities of teeming microorganisms in, on, and around us.


								01:29:19.994 --> 01:29:20.954

								Metagenomes.


								01:29:21.014 --> 01:29:27.856

								We can just look at everything and then use our computers and my really smart interns to figure out what we're looking at.


								01:29:27.936 --> 01:29:35.299

								You know, like shred all the newspapers up in the world and then find interesting novels in that big pile of shredded novels.


								01:29:35.979 --> 01:29:36.619

								and newspapers.


								01:29:55.006 --> 01:30:03.971

								And just to give you a sense of how this works, imagine that we took a nasal swab from every single one of you, and this is something we commonly do to look for respiratory viruses like influenza.


								01:30:04.811 --> 01:30:09.034

								The first thing that we would see is a tremendous amount of genetic information.


								01:30:09.674 --> 01:30:13.916

								And if we started looking into that genetic information, we'd see a number of usual suspects out there.


								01:30:13.956 --> 01:30:21.601

								Of course, a lot of human genetic information, but also bacterial and viral information, mostly from things that are completely harmless within your nose.


								01:30:22.401 --> 01:30:34.024

								And more than 220 EUA authorized PCR tests were rolled out at the beginning of the pandemic and said to define the pandemic on this background.


								01:30:35.304 --> 01:30:37.304

								But none of them were ever tested on this background.


								01:30:37.324 --> 01:30:43.826

								They were tested on a water control and on a positive control in a pure sample.


								01:30:44.586 --> 01:30:46.006

								Never on this background.


								01:30:46.767 --> 01:30:48.327

								Never on this background.


								01:30:49.761 --> 01:30:55.846

								And so the idea that there might be false positives on this background was completely never even a question.


								01:30:57.047 --> 01:31:10.237

								And the guy that was intimately involved in making sure that question was never asked was Kevin McKernan, who was part of organizing this paper about the primers of the WHO test being wrong.


								01:31:11.999 --> 01:31:18.124

								And none of those people in four and a half years have ever bothered to point out that Nathan Wolf says that the background is pretty loud.


								01:31:20.458 --> 01:31:22.941

								And these viruses mutate so fast.


								01:31:23.001 --> 01:31:29.769

								I mean, my goodness, this whole background is changing constantly like a genetic kaleidoscope.


								01:31:29.849 --> 01:31:34.854

								But, you know, it's pretty simple to roll out a few PCR tests and figure out what's going on.


								01:31:37.738 --> 01:31:38.478

								Stop lying!


								01:31:41.735 --> 01:31:43.896

								We'd also see something very, very surprising.


								01:31:44.677 --> 01:31:53.363

								As we started to look at this information, we would see that about 20% of the genetic information in your nose doesn't match anything that we've ever seen before.


								01:31:53.763 --> 01:31:56.545

								No plant, animal, fungus, virus, or bacteria.


								01:31:57.245 --> 01:31:59.627

								Basically, we have no clue what this is.


								01:32:00.925 --> 01:32:09.999

								And for the small group of us who actually study this kind of data, a few of us have actually begun to call this information biological dark matter.


								01:32:10.700 --> 01:32:13.263

								We know it's not anything that we've seen before.


								01:32:13.344 --> 01:32:14.205

								It's sort of the equivalent.


								01:32:14.225 --> 01:32:15.867

								I mean, he's like a real thought leader.


								01:32:16.983 --> 01:32:23.751

								And Charles Rixey and Kevin McKernan agree that he's really a thought leader and probably partially responsible for the pandemic.


								01:32:23.912 --> 01:32:27.916

								Ultimately, if not intellectually, also biologically responsible.


								01:32:28.557 --> 01:32:30.940

								That's how extraordinary it is that they...


								01:32:31.946 --> 01:32:55.051

								retweeted each other and and it's it's really the narrative breaking of an uncharted continent right within our own genetic information and there's a lot of it if you think 20 percent of genetic information your nose is a lot uh biological dark matter if we looked at your gut up to 40 or 50 percent of that information is biological dark matter in your gut it's even worse


								01:32:55.771 --> 01:32:56.812

								And who works there?


								01:32:57.472 --> 01:33:00.675

								Oh, that's that lady who's talking shit on her book.


								01:33:00.775 --> 01:33:03.316

								And she sequenced SARS-CoV-2 in the gut.


								01:33:03.777 --> 01:33:10.422

								And she's a part of over 200 clinical trials on investigating probiotics.


								01:33:10.462 --> 01:33:11.803

								But she's all on our team.


								01:33:12.383 --> 01:33:13.724

								She's definitely on our team.


								01:33:13.764 --> 01:33:15.525

								That's why she spoke in front of the Senate.


								01:33:16.126 --> 01:33:16.626

								That's right.


								01:33:16.826 --> 01:33:17.647

								She's on our team.


								01:33:18.007 --> 01:33:20.209

								That's why she speaks at CHD conferences.


								01:33:20.249 --> 01:33:21.049

								She's on our team.


								01:33:21.229 --> 01:33:21.650

								That's right.


								01:33:22.446 --> 01:33:22.686

								Sure.


								01:33:23.006 --> 01:33:31.953

								And even in the relatively sterile blood, around one to two percent of this information is dark matter, can't be classified, can't be typed or matched with anything that we've seen before.


								01:33:33.634 --> 01:33:35.836

								At first we thought that perhaps this was artifact, right?


								01:33:35.876 --> 01:33:45.923

								These deep sequencing tools are relatively new, but as they've become more and more accurate, we've determined that this information is a form of life, or at least some of it is a form of life.


								01:33:46.949 --> 01:33:56.180

								And while the hypotheses for explaining the existence of biological dark matter are really only in their infancy, there's a very, very exciting possibility that exists.


								01:33:57.181 --> 01:34:04.129

								That buried in this life are signatures, in this genetic information, are signatures of as of yet unidentified life.


								01:34:05.185 --> 01:34:08.288

								that as we explore these... Okay, now listen very carefully.


								01:34:08.348 --> 01:34:23.100

								This is the central bullshit of metabiota, the central bullshit of virology, the central bullshit that Kevin McKernan and Charles Rixey are now coordinatedly reinforcing on Twitter as of July.


								01:34:23.820 --> 01:34:31.206

								Listen very carefully because it will never be said better than this Rick Bright wannabe said it in this video.


								01:34:31.467 --> 01:34:32.447

								Ability that exists.


								01:34:33.632 --> 01:34:39.938

								Hypotheses for explaining the existence of biological dark matter is a form of life, or at least some of it is a form of life.


								01:34:40.958 --> 01:34:47.384

								And while the hypotheses for explaining the existence of biological... So there's a hypothesis that he's arguing now.


								01:34:47.444 --> 01:34:49.026

								What is the hypothesis about?


								01:34:49.086 --> 01:35:00.476

								It's about what this biological dark matter that metabiota has identified in your nose and identified even more of in your gut, what it actually is.


								01:35:02.335 --> 01:35:08.419

								And of course, his really exciting possibility is that it's as of yet undiscovered life forms.


								01:35:09.360 --> 01:35:13.062

								But of course, what do we think it is here at GigaOM Biological?


								01:35:13.122 --> 01:35:20.067

								We think it is unadmitted, unidentified exosomal signaling.


								01:35:21.068 --> 01:35:24.430

								Healthy cells communicating with other healthy cells.


								01:35:26.084 --> 01:35:36.390

								and healthy cells of fungi communicating with other cells and bacteria, and we don't know.


								01:35:38.511 --> 01:35:51.458

								But it is far less likely for it to be, as of yet, unidentified, whole phylogeny of life forms, as opposed to being signals generated by the life forms we already know are here.


								01:35:53.311 --> 01:36:19.553

								And so, MetaBiota's primary goal is to make sure that this biological dark matter never, ever, ever is questioned as being generated by the life forms we already know, but is a potentially undiscovered source of new phylogeny of life, which is not a very parsimonious hypothesis to pursue.


								01:36:21.331 --> 01:36:33.962

								Listen to him say it very carefully here, because this is the idea that Kevin McKernan, Charles Rixey, Kevin McCairn, Jessica Rose, Robert Malone, Merrill Nass, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.


								01:36:34.002 --> 01:36:34.582

								all believe in.


								01:36:35.363 --> 01:36:40.547

								We've determined that this information is a form of life, or at least some of it is a form of life.


								01:36:41.553 --> 01:36:50.782

								And while the hypotheses for explaining the existence of biological dark matter are really only in their infancy, there's a very, very exciting possibility that exists.


								01:36:51.783 --> 01:36:58.749

								That buried in this life are signatures, in this genetic information, are signatures of as of yet unidentified life.


								01:36:59.790 --> 01:37:21.893

								that as we explore these strings of A's, T's, C's, and G's, we may uncover a completely new class of life that, like BioRank, will fundamentally change the way that we think about the nature of biology, that perhaps will allow us to identify the cause of a cancer that afflicts us, or identify the source of an outbreak that we aren't familiar with, or perhaps create a new tool in molecular biology.


								01:37:22.774 --> 01:37:34.137

								I'm pleased to announce that along with colleagues at Stanford and Caltech and UCSF, we're currently starting an initiative to explore biological dark matter for the existence of new forms of life.


								01:37:35.217 --> 01:37:43.119

								A little over a hundred years ago, people were unaware of viruses, the forms of life that make up most of the genetic information on our planet.


								01:37:43.919 --> 01:37:50.021

								A hundred years from now, people may... He said it again, and Alper and others discovering prions is on there.


								01:37:50.081 --> 01:37:51.021

								That's handy, isn't it?


								01:37:52.128 --> 01:37:54.509

								one of the only other things that needs to be on there, right?


								01:37:54.549 --> 01:37:55.709

								Viruses, prions.


								01:37:57.829 --> 01:38:04.371

								A marvel that we were perhaps completely unaware of a new class of life that literally was right under our noses.


								01:38:04.511 --> 01:38:05.731

								A new class of life.


								01:38:06.191 --> 01:38:19.194

								What they're doing is expanding the definition of life to include things that aren't pattern integrities, to steal a term most aptly used and defined by my hero, Buckminster Fuller.


								01:38:22.006 --> 01:38:23.188

								A real biologist.


								01:38:23.568 --> 01:38:25.110

								A real naturalist.


								01:38:25.331 --> 01:38:29.536

								A real appreciator of the irreducible complexity all around him.


								01:38:33.481 --> 01:38:34.483

								That's what they're doing here.


								01:38:34.523 --> 01:38:35.404

								That's what he did.


								01:38:35.504 --> 01:38:36.886

								That's what they do.


								01:38:37.507 --> 01:38:38.969

								They cast an enchantment.


								01:38:41.499 --> 01:38:43.401

								They are not doing real science.


								01:38:43.441 --> 01:38:44.823

								They are casting an enchantment.


								01:38:44.863 --> 01:38:58.179

								And now we're supposed to believe from Kevin McKernan and Charles Rixey, that these enchanters like Peter Daszak and Nathan Wolf were real bona fide fricking virologists that are ultimately responsible for the pandemic.


								01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:08.983

								It's true, we may have charted all the continents on the planet, and we may have discovered all the mammals that are out there, but that doesn't mean that there's nothing left to explore on Earth.


								01:39:09.723 --> 01:39:14.945

								BioRank and its kind provide an important lesson for the next generation of explorers.


								01:39:15.385 --> 01:39:17.426

								People like that young girl from... He's reading!


								01:39:18.922 --> 01:39:21.843

								And I think if we phrase that lesson, it's something like this.


								01:39:22.663 --> 01:39:26.065

								Don't assume that what we currently think is out there is the full story.


								01:39:26.885 --> 01:39:31.047

								Go after the dark matter in whatever field you choose to explore.


								01:39:31.747 --> 01:39:35.288

								There are unknowns all around us, and they're just waiting to be discovered.


								01:39:36.188 --> 01:39:36.529

								Thank you.


								01:39:44.492 --> 01:39:48.133

								Right before that, he gave a presentation to 1,000 middle school students.


								01:39:50.273 --> 01:39:51.874

								Now this is after the pandemic.


								01:39:51.934 --> 01:39:55.377

								This is during the pandemic, much older Nathan Wolf, 10 years later.


								01:39:55.418 --> 01:39:56.398

								Let's see what he's got to say.


								01:39:56.418 --> 01:39:57.239

								Welcome to FI ThinkPod.


								01:39:57.519 --> 01:39:58.460

								My name is Francisco.


								01:39:58.760 --> 01:39:59.361

								And I'm Aziz.


								01:39:59.821 --> 01:40:04.806

								And at ThinkPod, we speak about the smartest ideas and the biggest challenges facing the world right now.


								01:40:05.186 --> 01:40:09.450

								Have you ever considered the possibility that actually Soph is responding for Sasha?


								01:40:11.477 --> 01:40:18.792

								or somebody who worked for SOF or ran SOF or is involved with that whole persona is actually responding for Sasha.


								01:40:19.273 --> 01:40:21.638

								Sasha's not wasting her time on substacks.


								01:40:22.802 --> 01:40:24.203

								and comments, there's no way.


								01:40:24.944 --> 01:40:32.410

								And a lot of those comments are so adolescent and over the top that it leads me to believe that it's maybe her daughter.


								01:40:32.811 --> 01:40:41.058

								And what's really funny about it is, is oftentimes there's like things like my brilliant daughter, my brilliant daughter, my super smart daughter, too bad my daughter's smarter than you.


								01:40:41.478 --> 01:40:45.181

								It kind of sounds like maybe her daughter's the one who's doing it.


								01:40:45.221 --> 01:40:47.223

								I mean, at this stage, who cares?


								01:40:47.403 --> 01:40:49.225

								It's just obvious that Sasha is a,


								01:40:49.725 --> 01:40:54.735

								and not a patriot and definitely a meddler and probably has been a meddler since she came to the country.


								01:40:55.176 --> 01:40:58.583

								We speak about where we are, how we got here, and where we're going.


								01:41:02.568 --> 01:41:10.831

								Today our guests are the virus hunter himself, Dr. Nathan Wolf, Chairman of MetaBiota, and the CEO of MetaBiota, Ms.


								01:41:10.871 --> 01:41:11.511

								Nita Madhav.


								01:41:11.892 --> 01:41:18.554

								We talk about the Global Infectious Disease Index, the breakthrough tool developed in partnership with the FII Institute.


								01:41:18.934 --> 01:41:25.197

								And we ask, what are the lessons we can learn from COVID to prevent a future pandemic causing a global shutdown?


								01:41:25.777 --> 01:41:32.445

								So Nita, we talked about the Global Infectious Disease Index over the past few months and you guys have worked together to develop a breakthrough tool.


								01:41:32.986 --> 01:41:39.294

								Can you talk to us a little bit about the tool that we've developed together and then the insights that you hope and believe that it will help people extract?


								01:41:39.653 --> 01:41:51.516

								Yes, so the Global Infectious Disease Index that we built together encompasses a few different components that you don't always see together when you're looking at this type of infectious disease data.


								01:41:52.056 --> 01:42:03.739

								So we've included data on endemic diseases, the top five, including HIV, malaria, tuberculosis, diarrheal diseases, and low respiratory tract infections, along with


								01:42:04.219 --> 01:42:13.423

								a tracking tool that we have that uses AI to detect early signals of epidemic threats that are emerging and could pose a threat.


								01:42:13.463 --> 01:42:14.303

								Of course it does.


								01:42:14.323 --> 01:42:23.407

								And on top of that, we've also added the country systems information to look at how health systems rank compared to global norms and other indicators.


								01:42:24.047 --> 01:42:30.750

								And then the fourth component is the ranking, the performance metrics of how well a country is doing


								01:42:31.150 --> 01:42:37.518

								with its infectious disease burden compared to what its health systems would suggest how they should be doing.


								01:42:38.079 --> 01:42:47.511

								What would you say are some of the most significant lessons learned from this pandemic that would help us avoid falling into the same traps in a future pandemic, God forbid?


								01:42:48.038 --> 01:43:03.485

								We've learned from this pandemic that there are new features that are really necessary in order to be able to appropriately capture these viruses and extinguish them before they become substantive.


								01:43:03.685 --> 01:43:06.347

								And I would say it's just a few of those failures.


								01:43:06.587 --> 01:43:12.990

								One of them would be that the pace at which we've responded to this virus is sort of a human pace.


								01:43:13.850 --> 01:43:18.714

								and effectively we will need to move to something much more like a machine pace.


								01:43:19.155 --> 01:43:20.496

								Oh yeah!


								01:43:20.536 --> 01:43:22.717

								We can't wait for people to make decisions.


								01:43:22.737 --> 01:43:29.923

								We're gonna have to automate everything so that when the screen lights up, pandemic, that everybody around the world acts faster than they did now.


								01:43:30.424 --> 01:43:34.587

								So their AI and a little network, oh my shit, this is terrible.


								01:43:35.147 --> 01:43:38.150

								A group of people sitting around looking at data and deciding what to do.


								01:43:38.510 --> 01:43:41.411

								we need always-on monitoring systems.


								01:43:42.051 --> 01:43:53.535

								So if you look at how long it took us, say, in the United States to develop a diagnostic that was capable of detecting COVID accurately, there's no need for that.


								01:43:53.575 --> 01:43:59.877

								There's technology that permits us to diagnose any virus easily and with full information.


								01:43:59.977 --> 01:44:04.538

								And those should be always looking for viruses in the population such that when


								01:44:05.058 --> 01:44:08.582

								you do have an epidemic, it's not like you have to race to ramp up a system.


								01:44:08.782 --> 01:44:11.464

								The other thing would be silos and integration.


								01:44:12.205 --> 01:44:19.853

								For example, there's really no common language with which the WHO can speak with vaccine manufacturers,


								01:44:20.513 --> 01:44:34.990

								And the way that we think of this is that in the future there likely will be some sort of, think of it as a platform, almost like an IT tool that permits the same set of underlying model data, monitoring data, which could be informed by new technologies.


								01:44:35.871 --> 01:44:58.353

								to be shared and communicated between policymakers and local health and vaccine manufacturers in such a way that permits the public health response and even the financial response to feel like a coordinated system working in concert as opposed to a number of different features sometimes working at odds with each other.


								01:44:58.601 --> 01:45:02.805

								I mean, there's some other features, but I think those are some primary features.


								01:45:03.025 --> 01:45:09.531

								Another way to think of it, and those features will move us from a situation where I consider it like a sledgehammer.


								01:45:09.791 --> 01:45:21.421

								When you think of how we've deployed lockdowns and quarantine, or even vaccination, it's in some ways, you know, relatively not particularly refined.


								01:45:21.641 --> 01:45:25.442

								And what we really want to be is in a position where we can use a scalpel.


								01:45:26.263 --> 01:45:38.467

								And so I think those three areas will help to move our monitoring systems away from blunt use of response tools to a much more custom, specific use of those tools.


								01:45:38.487 --> 01:45:41.628

								And you can imagine a world where you have limited vaccines.


								01:45:41.668 --> 01:45:44.309

								They're deployed very specifically in such a way that


								01:45:45.049 --> 01:45:55.696

								individuals that, you know, how do you stretch your vaccines to make the impact of each jab greatest in the context of lowering the epidemic?


								01:45:56.176 --> 01:46:05.002

								And just taking into account vaccination rates or disease mortality, those are probably not sufficient to do a truly optimized system.


								01:46:05.307 --> 01:46:15.734

								I just wanted to add to what Nathan was saying on the concept of the always-on system, that part of that too is the decision-making around how to respond.


								01:46:16.394 --> 01:46:22.758

								And that a lot of times there doesn't seem to be the frameworks for making those decisions that are already in place.


								01:46:23.119 --> 01:46:34.086

								And with the tools such as the index and other tools that allow us to anticipate what the threats might be, this can actually be something that's done ahead of time, where there can actually be


								01:46:34.466 --> 01:46:44.172

								a recipe book of how are we going to respond if this happens or that happens and so the the type of planning that can be done ahead of time I think is something that we can really learn from in this pandemic as well.


								01:46:44.676 --> 01:46:47.318

								So you've both mentioned an automated always-on system.


								01:46:47.678 --> 01:46:50.941

								We've had other pandemics in previous decades and years.


								01:46:51.541 --> 01:46:53.623

								Why haven't we learned from those instances?


								01:46:53.883 --> 01:46:55.784

								Why is it something that now we're looking for?


								01:46:55.804 --> 01:47:01.408

								So he's definitely accepted the presupposition that we've had pandemics before, even though we really haven't.


								01:47:02.589 --> 01:47:06.552

								And that's already part of this extraordinary illusion, the illusion of consensus.


								01:47:06.592 --> 01:47:07.673

								To develop these solutions.


								01:47:08.131 --> 01:47:14.893

								I mean, I think one answer to that is it's quite good news that the technology continues to change.


								01:47:15.373 --> 01:47:24.955

								For example, the kind of modeling work that NIDA has done within our organization is stuff, some of which would have been computationally impossible 10, 15 years ago.


								01:47:25.015 --> 01:47:26.235

								You can talk more about that.


								01:47:26.295 --> 01:47:28.496

								But another one is molecular diagnostics.


								01:47:29.116 --> 01:47:37.603

								So the ways in which we can diagnose illnesses with individuals have changed our ability to conceive of the right monitoring system.


								01:47:37.623 --> 01:47:42.027

								And I'll give you an example, which is cell-free nucleic acids.


								01:47:42.708 --> 01:47:53.698

								So we now, rather than having to take cerebrospinal fluid and a liver biopsy, nasopharyngeal swab, et cetera, et cetera, in order to know all of the microbes in an individual,


								01:47:54.378 --> 01:47:59.321

								You can effectively do a liquid biopsy or a cell-free nucleic acid from blood alone.


								01:48:00.001 --> 01:48:07.665

								You can use the little bits of genetic information to extrapolate and know basically all of the microbes present in an individual.


								01:48:08.305 --> 01:48:16.009

								And so that technology, which is very recent, last five to 10 years, and it's colleagues and collaborators of ours, Geoswab, et cetera, et cetera.


								01:48:16.069 --> 01:48:23.633

								I have a hard time believing that the lie about sequencing


								01:48:24.969 --> 01:48:50.294

								and the technology of sequencing has progressed so far that where we couldn't really sequence a whole human genome very well until very recently, and certainly not very quickly, to now saying that we can take a blood sample and we can know what all the microbes are in that person, is that not any different than what that lady for Theranos was saying she could do?


								01:48:51.215 --> 01:48:52.335

								How is that any different?


								01:48:53.038 --> 01:49:11.994

								Taking the fragments of biological material in blood and analyzing all the potential diseases someone has is just as magnificent as saying that we can just take the bits and pieces of DNA and blood and find out all the microbes that are present in somebody.


								01:49:12.034 --> 01:49:13.155

								That could be possible.


								01:49:14.016 --> 01:49:23.181

								But it just seems like something that this guy doesn't know the biology and doesn't know the limitations of it like somebody like Kevin McKernan surely does.


								01:49:24.062 --> 01:49:37.730

								And it's extraordinary because he's really making bold statements not that dissimilar from Elon Musk the other day who says that because we can put wires in the brain and read data that we can read and write the brain, which is just absurd.


								01:49:38.752 --> 01:49:46.102

								Just because we can detect this huge, bright background signal doesn't mean that we can use PCR to figure out what it all is.


								01:49:47.264 --> 01:49:52.391

								Especially if half of it is coming from the animals that we think they are preying on.


								01:49:53.092 --> 01:49:53.933

								It's ridiculous.


								01:49:54.153 --> 01:50:02.477

								In order to know all of the microbes in an individual, you can effectively do a liquid biopsy or a cell-free nucleic acid from blood alone.


								01:50:03.138 --> 01:50:10.802

								You can use the little bits of genetic information to extrapolate and know basically all of the microbes present in an individual.


								01:50:11.002 --> 01:50:21.468

								And then also have a blood sample that would give you a much better picture of the person and the person's biological status rather than the microbiome.


								01:50:22.208 --> 01:50:27.114

								And so you could say you're collecting a blood sample for one thing and then it becomes a remnant after you use it.


								01:50:27.154 --> 01:50:28.816

								The remnant can be sold to anyone.


								01:50:31.087 --> 01:50:34.269

								That's what they did with all the PCR tests at the beginning of the pandemic.


								01:50:34.330 --> 01:50:41.715

								And during all of this testing at universities, they sold the remnants, which had the genetic samples of all these students.


								01:50:41.755 --> 01:50:42.936

								They sold the remnants.


								01:50:43.016 --> 01:50:45.378

								The remnants went into the private market.


								01:50:45.638 --> 01:50:54.065

								And so that technology, which is very recent, last five to 10 years, and it's colleagues and collaborators of ours that have discovered and invented that technology.


								01:50:54.825 --> 01:51:08.943

								If you live in a world where to get all of the viruses from an individual, you would effectively have to put them in a blender, is not conducive for conceptualizing a world in which you could know all the viruses within a population all the time.


								01:51:10.184 --> 01:51:32.135

								But once you have that technology, you start thinking to yourself, well, if you sampled effectively, could you reach a point in the future where perhaps a particular government or city might know effectively the vast majority of viruses and the vast majority of citizens all the time?


								01:51:32.655 --> 01:51:45.186

								And if you, just for a moment, think about a world that is like... So how would you differentiate between monitoring all the viruses and all the people in Pittsburgh versus monitoring the genetic changes of all the people in Pittsburgh over time?


								01:51:45.686 --> 01:51:47.408

								How would you differentiate between that?


								01:51:47.448 --> 01:51:52.392

								How and which of those biological signals do you think would be stronger in that sample?


								01:51:52.432 --> 01:51:58.177

								Because from my perspective, having somebody's blood sample gives you a huge bright signal about their


								01:51:58.757 --> 01:52:02.482

								their medical data and their genetic data and their immunological state.


								01:52:03.664 --> 01:52:10.053

								And very, very, very, very, very little information on their microbiome, especially what's on their skin or in their nose.


								01:52:12.631 --> 01:52:30.806

								And so an extraordinary bait and switch is happening here where he's basically selling the same bamboozling lie about what we can do with a blood sample and what we would do with it, which is figure out all the bad guys in your body instead of what is most useful for, which is sampling you.


								01:52:37.543 --> 01:52:43.511

								that, how profoundly different it is from the world that we just experienced over the last year or so.


								01:52:43.571 --> 01:52:52.584

								And I think some of those features would have been very difficult to conceive of or it would have been too theoretical in the absence of some of these new technologies.


								01:52:53.325 --> 01:52:58.911

								I think technology plays a role, and it's going to figure into it even more prominently.


								01:52:58.991 --> 01:53:03.857

								And we've also seen the acceleration of various kinds of developments in diagnostic tools.


								01:53:03.977 --> 01:53:09.303

								I mean, we've got to remember, Ray Kurzweiler points it out all the time, that there's an exponential curve that we're on.


								01:53:09.343 --> 01:53:11.845

								And at some point, all disease is just going to be cured.


								01:53:12.646 --> 01:53:13.026

								Bang!


								01:53:13.507 --> 01:53:15.168

								We're like 10 years away from it.


								01:53:15.828 --> 01:53:22.473

								I often don't respect the exponential curve like these futurists do, but they're sure the exponential curve is on the way up.


								01:53:22.853 --> 01:53:24.734

								And vaccines, therapeutics.


								01:53:25.455 --> 01:53:33.360

								But I think one thing that we've often seen after a lot of previous epidemics and pandemics is what's been called the cycle of panic and neglect.


								01:53:33.920 --> 01:53:39.003

								So you see, you know, when we're in the midst of an event, there is this huge panic.


								01:53:39.063 --> 01:53:40.184

								Everybody is responding.


								01:53:40.544 --> 01:53:41.605

								And then the event is over.


								01:53:41.925 --> 01:53:45.607

								And then it goes to this, you know, falls into a little bit of neglect.


								01:53:45.907 --> 01:53:46.948

								Funding goes away.


								01:53:47.088 --> 01:53:50.690

								And so, you know, I think what we want to do is get out of that cycle.


								01:53:50.730 --> 01:54:01.537

								And I think COVID pandemic devastating as it's been, I think it is a game changer in the sense that it will move us out of that and really propel the change we need to see.


								01:54:02.108 --> 01:54:04.329

								I have a question tying onto the neglect part.


								01:54:04.589 --> 01:54:09.811

								We've seen vaccination rates in developed world, almost proliferation entirely.


								01:54:10.111 --> 01:54:14.373

								But in a developing world, there's a lack of access to vaccines, particularly in remote areas.


								01:54:14.913 --> 01:54:24.377

								Do you feel like this is going to create issues with other COVID variants or will create further issues downstream in terms of expanding that division between developed and undeveloped?


								01:54:24.761 --> 01:54:36.427

								Look, it's a virus that's constantly mutating and exploring the genetic space that it has in the context, not in a conscious way, of course, but that's how selection is working.


								01:54:37.047 --> 01:54:51.494

								So the greater number of cases there are, the higher the probability that there will be a variant which is capable of evading vaccine-induced immunity, for example, or it has a different mortality profile that may be more deadly.


								01:54:52.294 --> 01:55:03.904

								So, part of limiting cases is to decrease the financial and health burden associated with it, but it's also just to decrease the potential for the emergence of new variants.


								01:55:04.525 --> 01:55:15.555

								And again, as we think to the future, which is how we as an organization and both of us as scientists and entrepreneurs focus, it's really about future.


								01:55:16.415 --> 01:55:19.176

								Scientists and entrepreneurs, he said.


								01:55:19.276 --> 01:55:23.318

								Wow, that's incredible to even say that word in this context.


								01:55:23.558 --> 01:55:31.301

								And even the, certainly the inequality features have been very well discussed, so I won't, you know, acknowledge those and just move on.


								01:55:32.021 --> 01:55:48.844

								But you could imagine a future where within countries and even between countries, there's an optimal distribution of vaccines, which may always be limited, in order to achieve objectives, which in this case would probably be to limit transmission on a global basis.


								01:55:48.904 --> 01:55:55.185

								And that may very well, in the future, work along axes that are different than developed and developing.


								01:55:55.205 --> 01:55:57.766

								And right now, again, it's the sledgehammer.


								01:55:58.006 --> 01:55:59.986

								And even the way that we're deploying the sledgehammer


								01:56:01.146 --> 01:56:07.207

								as you've noted, sort of unequal, unfair, unreasonable, and probably not effective.


								01:56:07.888 --> 01:56:24.171

								One thing that, you know, relates to some of the work that we've done on the index, but broadly with some of the topics you guys mentioned about tracking viruses, how should bio data be shared and are there any privacy concerns where should citizens give up their privacy to make more accessible data available to scientists?


								01:56:25.046 --> 01:56:32.532

								Well, this is always a trade-off and something that we look very closely at and really take very seriously.


								01:56:33.053 --> 01:56:36.015

								All of the data that we use is actually anonymized.


								01:56:36.035 --> 01:56:38.217

								There isn't really that private information in it.


								01:56:38.557 --> 01:56:44.082

								But as we now see that there's trends in the internet.


								01:56:44.102 --> 01:56:46.784

								There's no private information in your blood sample.


								01:56:46.904 --> 01:56:49.106

								Wow, that is spectacularly lame.


								01:56:49.540 --> 01:56:55.565

								of things and personal devices, and the trend is really heading towards this very personalized data.


								01:56:56.005 --> 01:57:07.254

								And it's something, as we're applying AI tools, as we're mining that data, it's something where these protections do need to be in place, and it's something that needs to be taken seriously.


								01:57:07.274 --> 01:57:18.523

								I think that the first step is really to acknowledge that these issues and limitations are there, and then look to how to best balance the global public good with


								01:57:18.883 --> 01:57:19.964

								the privacy concerns.


								01:57:20.604 --> 01:57:23.647

								Maybe just to add to that, there's so much low-hanging fruit.


								01:57:23.787 --> 01:57:34.696

								It's such a non-optimized system that there's plenty of gain that we can get with data that's... Another thing to say is there's no need in any of the work we do for human genetic data.


								01:57:35.236 --> 01:57:43.443

								So anonymized data, non-human genetic data, it's not that we actually... What I think you need to understand is that they don't need that.


								01:57:46.039 --> 01:58:01.174

								I think it's very likely that with repeated sampling from these students at the University of Illinois or these students at the University of Ohio, that they could use that data and go back to samples that are also in the EPIC database.


								01:58:02.095 --> 01:58:10.082

								It's very likely that a lot of these hospital databases of these big corporations are already invested in trying to populate the genetic data


								01:58:10.783 --> 01:58:13.065

								of the patients in their systems.


								01:58:13.125 --> 01:58:25.496

								Whether that's a secret thing or a black ops thing or whatever, there's little doubt in my mind that the Epic database behind the scenes has as much genetic data as possible.


								01:58:26.617 --> 01:58:35.104

								Don't forget that one of the things in this Trump narrative is that that guy didn't have any social media presence, they identified him by DNA.


								01:58:35.967 --> 01:58:36.447

								the shooter.


								01:58:36.947 --> 01:58:38.088

								They identified him by DNA.


								01:58:38.108 --> 01:58:47.772

								Well, how would they have that unless it was already being sampled regularly from everybody in public health and everybody in these public or private databases?


								01:58:49.013 --> 01:58:55.936

								If there's collaboration between the national security state and these corporations that run our hospitals, then we're already there.


								01:58:56.832 --> 01:59:07.110

								And de-identifying this data becomes irrelevant if, behind the scenes, there's a national security priority that allows them to do it anyway.


								01:59:08.191 --> 01:59:27.780

								And there's almost no doubt in my mind that there is a national security priority that would be behind Metalbiota, behind EcoHealth Alliance, and behind their illusion of pandemic potential, which is designed to coerce people unwittingly into jumping into this system, whether they know it or not.


								01:59:29.226 --> 01:59:41.179

								PCR tests, the sequencing, this was all done under the guise of studying something outside of you, taking blood samples or saliva samples every week.


								01:59:41.219 --> 01:59:42.260

								This is ridiculous.


								01:59:42.841 --> 01:59:50.889

								You are giving up, we were giving up our data long ago and they've been sampling it long ago because the Human Genome Project admitted it.


								01:59:51.630 --> 02:00:04.796

								When they actually said they were done, what they were done with was a restriction enzyme map of a single genome, which gave them landmarks to look at across other genomes so that they could start comparing across genomes.


								02:00:05.196 --> 02:00:12.960

								But they were in no way, shape, or form ready to start saying they were sequencing whole genomes and getting useful information out of them.


								02:00:15.970 --> 02:00:23.694

								They don't know how to read Chinese, so they can't take a Chinese encyclopedia and start translating in random places.


								02:00:23.734 --> 02:00:29.496

								What they got to do is look for landmarks and see what landmarks are shared across different encyclopedia sets.


								02:00:29.556 --> 02:00:30.017

								That's it.


								02:00:31.397 --> 02:00:33.038

								Are there the same number of volumes?


								02:00:33.078 --> 02:00:35.239

								Do the volumes always divide in the same place?


								02:00:35.599 --> 02:00:39.061

								That's about all they're doing right now with regard to genomes and mapping.


								02:00:40.157 --> 02:00:45.281

								And yes, they zero in on specific signals sometimes and they spend lots of money on specific signals.


								02:00:45.802 --> 02:00:55.490

								But the way that they exaggerate the fidelity with which we investigate these signals in virology and in human physiology is absurd.


								02:00:55.951 --> 02:00:58.092

								And this guy is a great example of it.


								02:00:58.653 --> 02:01:05.759

								I think we can make a tremendous amount of progress in making these systems much more optimal without having to sacrifice privacy.


								02:01:06.561 --> 02:01:15.970

								I have a quick question referencing to some of your... And so it keeps becoming about privacy and about free speech, free speech and privacy, free speech and privacy.


								02:01:16.391 --> 02:01:19.374

								It's never about informed consent where people can say no.


								02:01:19.814 --> 02:01:23.978

								And it's never, ever, ever, ever, ever about the biology.


								02:01:24.058 --> 02:01:25.800

								The biology is just assumed.


								02:01:26.741 --> 02:01:28.783

								And the worst case scenario is always assumed.


								02:01:41.997 --> 02:01:45.881

								Think back about 15 years ago in the context of climate.


								02:01:47.263 --> 02:01:56.253

								15 years ago, climate was something that probably was discussed mostly at earth sciences, or it was seen as an atmospheric phenomena.


								02:01:57.294 --> 02:02:09.520

								The reality that we recognize now is that it's a profound human phenomena that transcends institutions, whether you're a CEO or a central banker or someone doing public health.


								02:02:10.060 --> 02:02:12.301

								This is an issue which is vital.


								02:02:12.421 --> 02:02:14.282

								It's a fundamental systemic risk.


								02:02:14.342 --> 02:02:17.644

								Did he just mention all the governing factors of our world here?


								02:02:17.684 --> 02:02:18.564

								What was that all about?


								02:02:18.945 --> 02:02:21.046

								Seen as an atmospheric phenomena.


								02:02:21.986 --> 02:02:34.310

								The reality that we recognize now is that it's a profound human phenomena that transcends institutions, whether you're a CEO or a central banker or someone doing public health.


								02:02:34.850 --> 02:02:37.091

								This is an issue which is vital.


								02:02:37.211 --> 02:02:39.951

								It's a fundamental systemic risk that humans face.


								02:02:40.552 --> 02:02:46.914

								We see pandemics in the same way for reasons... Okay, so let's just leave it right there.


								02:02:46.954 --> 02:02:47.754

								I'm not even gonna do it.


								02:02:47.894 --> 02:02:48.934

								I'm not even gonna do it.


								02:02:48.954 --> 02:02:49.554

								Let me just move.


								02:02:51.775 --> 02:03:01.338

								Let me just move a slide because I do, I should have repeated a slide here that I didn't repeat because I really want to be sure I'm hitting home what is happening here.


								02:03:01.438 --> 02:03:03.098

								What actually we just watched.


								02:03:03.218 --> 02:03:03.518

								Okay.


								02:03:04.078 --> 02:03:09.000

								Now, first of all, just a little, just a little joke here, right?


								02:03:09.040 --> 02:03:10.040

								Just a little joke here.


								02:03:10.100 --> 02:03:11.160

								Just something to think about.


								02:03:11.981 --> 02:03:15.722

								Um, so who was that lady in the video?


								02:03:16.742 --> 02:03:16.862

								Um,


								02:03:19.013 --> 02:03:23.875

								I'm sort of not convinced, but I'm kind of sort of weirded out.


								02:03:25.255 --> 02:03:27.556

								The only, the best frame that I could get is that one.


								02:03:27.596 --> 02:03:41.201

								The best picture of Li Min Yan is that one that I could find where you can kind of see the facial shape and whether the eyebrows and nose are similarly rounded or not, but one's smiling and one isn't, one's looking in the camera and isn't it.


								02:03:41.721 --> 02:03:44.682

								But it's very strange that that woman


								02:03:45.362 --> 02:03:47.363

								Was in the video, but wasn't in the video.


								02:03:47.703 --> 02:03:52.226

								And she likes the same kind of glasses, although she does part her hair on the different side.


								02:03:54.447 --> 02:03:55.687

								And there's a few other things.


								02:03:55.727 --> 02:03:58.649

								That lady's got a wedding ring, so I don't know what that means.


								02:04:00.490 --> 02:04:01.890

								Anyway, it's just curious, right?


								02:04:01.930 --> 02:04:03.451

								Because Li Min Yan is gone.


								02:04:04.172 --> 02:04:05.452

								We don't hear from her anymore.


								02:04:05.512 --> 02:04:09.494

								She was really big in 2020, but not big anymore.


								02:04:09.534 --> 02:04:10.975

								Yeah, and there's no wedding ring in this one.


								02:04:12.947 --> 02:04:15.710

								You know, it could be a reversed frame, it could just be nothing, right?


								02:04:15.730 --> 02:04:17.531

								I mean, I'm just throwing that out there.


								02:04:17.932 --> 02:04:26.840

								What I'm not throwing out there though, and what is very real, is that these two gentlemen have decided to coordinate messaging on Twitter.


								02:04:27.661 --> 02:04:32.886

								These two gentlemen who have meddled with my family, and meddled with my work,


								02:04:33.892 --> 02:04:39.055

								and I believe done a very big dishonor to my work.


								02:04:40.016 --> 02:04:43.898

								And essentially they are traitors to America and to our children.


								02:04:45.339 --> 02:04:57.047

								And they are agreement here in recent July tweets that somebody like Metalbiota and Nathan Wolf are legitimate virologists


								02:04:57.927 --> 02:05:04.050

								who are ultimately behind the pandemic, responsible for the pandemic, maybe even caused it.


								02:05:04.610 --> 02:05:15.536

								Peter Daszak, EcoHealth Alliance, Metobiota, the labs in Ukraine, and that guy being the ultimate deep state operative.


								02:05:15.616 --> 02:05:18.457

								That is, of course, absurd.


								02:05:19.298 --> 02:05:23.540

								And the reason why it's absurd is because these are the same people.


								02:05:25.202 --> 02:05:29.911

								that were promoted in 2017, 18 and 19 before the pandemic started.


								02:05:30.392 --> 02:05:37.084

								These are the same people that were put in place and that have been in place for many, many years perpetuating this narrative.


								02:05:37.884 --> 02:05:54.953

								And their same people have been touring the world, perpetuating this narrative, making sure that we never usefully question the existence of novel viruses, that we never usefully question the existence of a vaccine schedule, just whether or not we rushed a new component of it out.


								02:05:56.601 --> 02:06:13.225

								That's why this Human Genome Project employee and beneficiary of its IP, to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, was put on podcasts early in 2020, just like Kevin McCarran was, just like Paul Cottrell was, just like George Webb was.


								02:06:13.325 --> 02:06:16.966

								These people were all out there, not spontaneously like myself.


								02:06:18.194 --> 02:06:34.260

								just naively on my bike doing Journal Club until the pandemic started, which there is more than ample evidence of, but instead just deciding to be a podcaster and already aware of the fact that Andy Kaufman was a no-virus bad guy.


								02:06:34.760 --> 02:06:42.047

								and that the main thing we needed to argue about was where did this gain-of-function incapacitating agent come from?


								02:06:42.127 --> 02:06:48.373

								Who released this dangerous new virus and how is it going to evolve over the next five years?


								02:06:48.413 --> 02:07:00.724

								They all agreed on it because this was the illusion of consensus that the national security state needed in order to coerce our families into taking transfection and transformation as just therapeutics.


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								And they agree on it now on social media about the worst case scenario, likely being a gain of function virus.


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								And if it wasn't this time, it will be next time.


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								Are they trying to kill us?


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								Oh my goodness.


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								And the way they're getting away with it is not talking about what them themselves, this team of meddlers was doing in 2020 and 2021.


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								And that's what they were doing.


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								They were driving around the internet trying to find people, wandering souls, looking for the truth.


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								And they picked them up in their imaginary cars and drove them around saying, come on, get in the car, man.


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								We're trying to find the truth too.


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								Climb in.


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								This is Pierre Cory.


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								This is Robert Malone.


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								And in the backseat, that's Jessica Rose.


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								And we're all trying to solve the same problem you are.


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								Come join us.


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								Or maybe they said, this is Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and this is CHD, and we're trying to solve the mystery.


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								You should join us.


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								But in reality, none of them were going to usefully question the existence of the virus.


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								None of them were going to usefully question the existence of the vaccine schedule as being criminal.


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								They just want freedom of choice and the freedom to talk about this stuff.


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								just not the, they don't want to talk about the director of USAID or they don't want to talk about the director of DITRA and the connections that Robert Malone has to these people.


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								They don't want to talk about the textbooks that Stanley Plotkin has written with Offit.


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								They don't want to talk about Hilary Koprowski and his contributions to American history of public health.


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								They don't want to talk about the Barr family and their contributions to recent American history.


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								And they definitely don't want to talk about Joshua Lederberg


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								and how his contributions to our rhetoric about genetic engineering has resulted in terms like gene therapy and resulted in terms like pandemic potential or pandemic prevention.


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								These are all enchantments that are just basically semantic lies, semantic bamboozlement.


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								And that's why they don't want to talk about our precise use of language.


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								They don't want to talk about our precise use of language, like when we say RNA cannot pandemic, because it makes it very hard for them to use their enchantment against us when they're forced to pass through the dispelling language of gigaohm biological.


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								That's why Robert Malone has so desperately tried to ignore me since we were forced to meet in the spring of 2022 on the podcast of Bobby Kennedy, and where him and Meryl Nass and Jessica Rose coordinated the bamboozling of me for another year.


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								He worked on retroviruses with all the kings.


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								He also investigated packaging sequences, which likely means he understands that these are just exosomes and exosomal communication is real and it's being misconstrued as virology so that they can understand and study something of us that they otherwise would have to get consent to study.


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								He's definitely suffered a lot since he's been so ethically superior his whole life.


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								And despite all of this suffering, he eventually came to be working as a private contractor for DITRA, DOD, a lot of different big pharmaceutical companies, the WHO.


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								and even chaired NIH study sections and given away or supervised the giving away of $50 billion worth of grants.


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								He won't touch Judy Mikovits because she comes from the same line of mentors, the same line of narrative curators.


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								And he won't really talk about Herit because he used to work with him and because they already made a movie together, which is laughably absurd.


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								And we will watch that at some point.


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								He's just the most interesting man in the world.


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								That's all he is, according to Mickey Willis' video that I showed earlier in the show.


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								They created this illusion of the pandemic.


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								They definitely created it.


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								These people created the illusion of the pandemic.


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								These people helped sustain the illusion of the pandemic.


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								And this is an ongoing thing.


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								It's an ongoing worst case scenario narrative that we still have to argue about.


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								The worst case scenario is, is that they rushed these shots and they're contaminated and we've hurt millions and millions of people around the world.


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								And we probably have.


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								And we've probably also bamboozled millions of children around the world into believing that that background signal that Nathan Wolf called biological dark matter doesn't exist.


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								Or that the hypothesis that it's all viruses outside of us has already been confirmed.


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								And these are lies.


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								Stop lying!


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								They're just lies.


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								RNA cannot pandemic.


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								It is that simple.


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								And the faith about RNA being pandemic potential is a lie.


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								Transfection is real, that's for sure.


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								They cannot grow RNA in a dish and sustain it forever, even if the NIH tells you that, but what they can do is sequence stuff.


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								And what they can do is make DNA.


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								And maybe they can only make short sequences of DNA, but they can enzymatically connect them together.


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								And so if they make short sequences and grow them in bacterial culture, they're real and they will be fairly pure.


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								And if you combine them with, I'm just going to escape out of here really quick and, and start it again.


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								and advance a little faster through here.


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								Hopefully the memory cleared.


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								You can also grow them and you can combine them with RNA polymerase or put them in cell culture or electroporate animals or give them to your friends.


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								And you can call them infectious clones if you want to.


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								But the reality is, is that the way you make them, the way that they are made, the way that they start with a synthetic DNA sequence and forever after that are synthetic, they do not recapitulate whatever signal has been purported to be found in the wild.


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								But they do make the opportunity for that sequence to be made in the same way that all other biologics are made in mass quantities by any of the pharmaceutical company giants that we have on Earth that make biologics like venom or like monoclonal antibodies.


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								And so the virology people call this infectious DNA and RNA, they call them infectious clones.


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								But that's just a lie.


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								It's a semantic enchantment, which covers up the fact that RNA and RNA virology is very simply synthetic DNA and RNA in quantity applied to cell culture or animals.


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								It's transfection and transformation in animals.


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								That's it.


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								Virology as it stands is not pandemic potential in a dish.


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								It is not Ralph Baric and Metobiota and Nathan Wolf and Peter Daszak having no respect for Mother Nature.


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								It is not.


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								It's just synthetic


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								biology, and it is the most simple synthetic biology.


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								They created the illusion of consensus that this synthetic biology would lead to bioweapons, would lead to the worst-case scenario being a pandemic of a bioweapon, and that is an illusion.


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								They have been creating for years and years and years, and that's why, in retrospect, a guy like Nathan Wolfe looks like such a clown, and why it is so ridiculous that Kevin McKernan and Charles Rixey want us to believe that that's the guy at the center of this mess.


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								It is exactly the same bullshit reason why they won't admit that synthetic DNA and synthetic RNA in quantity is not only possible, but that's the only thing you would need in order to create the molecular illusion of a pandemic with extremely high fidelity.


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								They don't want you to know that virology is just transfection and transformation in laboratories.


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								They don't want you to know that so much that they are willing to commit murder and lie about it in the United States and around the world so that the illusion of pandemic potential will be created on the backs of that murder.


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								That's what they've done.


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								That's what they've done.


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								That's what they've done.


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								That's what they've done.


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								That's what they've done.


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								And that's why they ignore this.


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								Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.


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								RNA cannot pandemic and transfection in healthy humans was always criminally negligent.


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								And that's how we've been bamboozled by these weaponized piles of money.


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								We've accepted the limited spectrum of debate imposed upon us.


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								Please, ladies and gentlemen, stop all transfections in humans because they are trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary.


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								If you like what you saw, please go to GigaOMBiological.com and find a way to support my family and my work.


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								And otherwise, wow, why is it always doing that to me?


								02:16:06.781 --> 02:16:11.842

								And if you want to share the video after the live stream is over, please share stream.gigaohm.bio.


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								It takes about 20 minutes and then the stream is live there with no censoring, no login, no nothing, just watching on our own provided Peertube website.


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								that clips are starting to be loaded up to and that Mark Kulak has started to load some of his episodes up in.


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								Ladies and gentlemen, keep pushing, keep the constant pressure on, and if you can, please share my work in places you haven't.


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								Please send emails to your family and friends.


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								I think this is a really good one to share with them because we are attempting to stop the program.


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								If we stop the program, if we pause it right here and people see how these meddlers line up just like this, they're lined up right now.


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								I think it's really important.


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								I think it's really the time and the place where these things are lining up right now.


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								And thank you very, very, very much for being here and I'm going to see you guys again tomorrow.


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								I think I got to clear my desktop or something.


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								The memory gets like bogged down with my big slide decks and all the stuff and whatever.


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								But anyway, thank you very much for being here.


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								I'll see you again tomorrow, guys.