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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

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sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

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But you can tell if someone's lying, you know, you can sort of feel it in people.

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And I have lied.

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I'm sure I'll lie again.

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I don't want to lie, you know, I don't think I'm a liar.

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I try not to be a liar.

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I don't want to be a liar.

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I think it's like really important not to be a liar.

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I'm not sure exactly who he is.

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His name is J. J. Cooey.

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And I believe he's a consultant for CHD.

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And I believe he has a PhD in some sort of scientific discipline from what I understand.

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I would say if that dark horse interview is real, then we should see a very incredulous

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Brett Weinstein trying his best to defend the vaccine schedule from scrutiny.

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If not, I wouldn't believe it.

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I don't know what to tell you other than that.

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I haven't watched it because I am completely done with Brett Weinstein, but it's possible

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that that forest is a good guy and that Brett is, you know, sort of slowly leaking the truth.

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As I've said before, we could have been here in 2020, but we're not.

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We were here here in 2024 because we've been under an enchantment.

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There's no way to slow roll an entire globe of people to the truth without a coordinated

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theater, without a coordinated group of liars.

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Because we've had Galileo's around, we've had people who knew the truth from the beginning

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and they were silenced and they were replaced by an illusion of consensus.

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So your consciousness as prime real estate is exactly what Brett Weinstein represents.

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And the fact of the matter is that people like this guy have known for decades that

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the way to control people is to control both sides of a debate, to occupy both sides of

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an argument, to be the home team and the away team.

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And once you're the home team and the away team, then essentially you can win any argument

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by attributing bad motives to the away team.

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You see how that works?

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And all this truth has been available to us for decades already.

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Once we break through this, the main illusion, which is the illusion of fractional reserve

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banking and that somehow just through the meritocracy of hard work, these bankers have

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become ultra rich.

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Right, that's what we're here and here.

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So as we've got to get as many people to see as possible, we've got to show as many people

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as possible so that as many people who can see will see.

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There is a plan, there is definitely a plan, it's not a good plan, I don't think it's

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a good plan at all, don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a good plan, it's not,

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it's not a good plan, but they have a plan, right, I'm not, they have a plan.

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And we've got to take the power back from these charlatans if we want to stop the plan,

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we've got to take actually, we've got to take the power back, we've got to take our

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kids back, our kids minds back from these people and try again to make gentle the life

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of this world, make, make peace again, pursue peace again.

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Ladies and gentlemen, if you've been here for a while, you might be here at the top of

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the wave, helping your friends and family, helping your kids understand what just happened

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and how to navigate it should it happen the next time, that's really what giga ohm biological

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intends to do and help other people and organizations who are trying to do the same, dispel the

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immunomethology that has been hoisted upon us over the last few decades, and we're going

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to do that by staying focused on the biology, by not taking debate on TV and social media

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and loving our neighbors.

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We are seeking out the sacred in our biology again, ladies and gentlemen, and so doing,

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we need the help of other people, and we are of course doing it because of other people

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that we love, we care about, and so please share this stream with as many people as you

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can, we are trying to make the message happier and more hopeful every day, clearer and more

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understandable every day, and it takes a lot of repetition, it's kind of like a really

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good jazz performance, requires 500 rehearsals or so, we're on our, let's say, 600th show,

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I don't know what it is, I would have to actually count it up.

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We've been rehearsing for a while or practicing or it's not even, it's not the right word,

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we've been studying for a while, and so although our understanding has shifted, and in recent

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times it's shifted quite drastically for me, no pun intended, because I brought my hand

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down from my eyes, I brought my phone down from my eyes, I realized that so many of the

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people that were telling me stories were not friendly, I didn't even know some of their names.

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Ladies and gentlemen, the only way out of this trap is United of Noncompliance, the only way

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out of this trap is to learn the biology ourselves and teach it to our children, I am a human just

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like you, a multiracial American who was brainwashed when he was young to try and define himself as a

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hyphenated, something American, and multiculturalism was a word that they used in college when I

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was in college, and I fell victim to the same trap that a lot of the next generation also fell

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victim to, which is that here you can have four years of what essentially is free college for now,

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and on 8% interest when you become an adult when we kick you out of here, and there's no guarantee

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of any income, there's no guarantee of any whatever, it's just basically a glorified library

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card with some glorified lecturers, people that definitely didn't know as much as we thought they

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did, and now lots of Americans are in debt to that system and we're not supposed to blame the

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government for giving away the free money called Pell Grants, we're not supposed to give away

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or blame the government for subsidizing those loans to 18 year olds that were told for their

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whole life that college was the only way, and we're not supposed to blame the universities that

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realize that holy shit we can charge whatever we want if they're gonna give us half Pell Grants

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and half guaranteed student loans, well then heck I guess $15,000 a year isn't crazy after all,

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and now we have universities that charge in the upwards of 60 or $70,000 a year, I don't know what

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Carnegie Mellon costs when I was still working there, but holy cow, and this is all government

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subsidized, weaponized piles of money because universities are weaponized piles of money,

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they're gigantic endowments, they're gigantic piles of grant money that are collected by the

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people that work there, and so this is the, I think that's the music that got me bounced last time,

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so I'm gonna draft that down and hopefully I'm trying to figure out why they they blanked my

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stream the other day, I think they blanked the intro because of the Tucker clip, so we're

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gonna see what they blanked today, it's May 3rd, 2024, welcome to the show, right on time 10-20,

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this is Giga on biological

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Good morning ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the show, coming to you live from Pittsburgh,

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Pennsylvania, it's 20 after 10, I still don't have my timing right of course, but at least I hit

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the button before 10-10, now if I can get around 10 o'clock then this whole thing will be perfect

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and I'll get to this part at 10-10, like I intended to, so that your watch will look its best when

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the screen, when we start the show, thanks for joining me, this is the only place really

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on the internet where you can find somebody who is in earnest seeking the sacred biology again,

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intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the

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immune system is dumb, exploring that concept and trying to understand it is a great way to get

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to the finish line as fast as possible, but it's a great deal of work, so if you need help and you

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want to come back for it, this is the place, um, transfection in healthy humans is criminally

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negligent, it's kind of a subset idea of the first one, but it's a more succinct way of telling any

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of your friends that are doctors or academic biologists or vet techs or veterinarians or anybody that

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purports to know something about biology and also something about COVID, they should have known better

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and should have known what transfection was before the pandemic and should have known that in calling

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it investigational vaccine doesn't make it any better, certainly doesn't make it appropriate

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for healthy elderly people that we would like to live and have around for another 15 years

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and it certainly doesn't make it appropriate for young children, never mind pregnant women,

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and finally RNA cannot pandemic is a great way to challenge your academic biologist friends,

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you know the people you used to work with in neuroscience for example in Norway and in the

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Netherlands and all over the world, hi my name is Jonathan Cooey and you can find me on PubMed,

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please look me up and then email any of my co-authors, any of them that you find and send them my stream

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and maybe even send them to this clip right here.

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Hey guys, it's been a long time since I've seen you when I was a patch clamp physiologist

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going to seminars with you, I guess you experienced the pandemic like I did which is pretty crazy,

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right? Four years ago we were told a biological mythology, a story basically about an RNA molecule

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that started out in a mud puddle and is now everywhere including in zoo animals and most of

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the whitetail deer in North America. This story is essentially a lie and it is based on some facts

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and a lot of fiction and you as an academic neurobiologist may not have been in a position to

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let's say drop everything and start reading and you may not have been aware that your former colleague

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Jonathan Cooey was actually let go by the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine in 2020 because

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I spoke out against transfection as an investigational vaccine and told people we were nuts for not

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speaking out against it and I think you as an academic neurobiologist working in a Nobel Prize

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lab in Norway are working in a prestigious university like Erasmus in the Netherlands or

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working at the University of Pittsburgh now or wherever you find yourself

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should have known the definition of transfection because you've probably used it in your mice,

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you've probably used it in your rats in order to express the channel red opsin or or express the

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the marker for your for your interesting gene. Maybe you looked at early immediate

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early genes like like ark and you had a mouse that could

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transiently express GFP wherever ark was expressed and so you understand what's going on when they

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say that they're going to use a lipid nanoparticle with RNA and it injected into a muscle

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and you understand how imprecise that must be given the fact that you know how imprecise

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injection in the brain can be

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and given how you know how lipid nanoparticles work or maybe you don't but you could have

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figured it out. Transfection in healthy humans was actually criminally negligent and they lied to

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us about how the pandemic started in New York City which you can find very easy

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and convinced people around the world with a self-contained media campaign that we were

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forced to watch because we had to stay at home and unfortunately a combination of very bad

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recommendations which included pure high flow oxygen given to people before they eventually

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got on a ventilator and many other sort of illusions to create a mass casualty event in

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New York City that they then said was evidence that if we didn't all lock down there was going to

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be a worst case scenario so we all locked down and then they told us that the worst case scenario

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was avoided because we all locked out and most of you should have been smart enough in 2020 to

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know that this was a lie most of you should have been smart enough to know that this wasn't possible

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and I myself what the hell happened to my focus

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the most of you should have known that this was the case most of you should have known that

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this was not all possible but it took me a very long time to figure it out

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and so I don't blame any of you for not knowing it I'm just trying to explain to you that you

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could have known and you can know now because a lot of the work has already been done for you

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a lot of the work has already been done over the last four years by me and by a few other

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people have been trying to parse out what exactly happened you can forgive yourself for it not

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coming to light in your life because of the focus you have on your career you can forgive

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yourself for your focus on your family and you can forgive yourself for not having done the

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requisite reading to understand it because it was a lot

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I've bought a lot of books and I've read a lot of papers I've printed out a lot of papers I've

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highlighted a lot of papers over the last four years but I assure you that the words on this

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screen are actually real and so you as a biologist maybe you know me from from great conversations

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on the roof of a convention center at an SFN maybe you know me from great conversations at a

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had a meeting in Italy or in Sardinia or any of the other places maybe even in Swalbard if you got

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if we were lucky enough to meet there and I would hope that in all of those places I never made an

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impression that I was some kind of crazy person or that I didn't really understand the subtleties

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of what we were trying to do as neuroscientists I am willing to wager that I made a pretty good

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impression on you in terms of my understanding of the big questions and my interest in yours

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and in that respect if you can possibly remember it please understand that it is not with with

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it is not willy nilly that I put these words on the screen and that I I'm hanging my family's

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future on the words on this screen and so to all the people in Norway in the Netherlands and in

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the United States and everywhere else where you have gone since we have been friends since we have

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met over my lifetime and 20 years as a neurobiologist I'm begging all of you just think deeply about

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these words think deeply about what you know about the mechanisms by which DNA is replicated

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RNA is replicated and then find the papers that fill in the holes of what you don't understand and

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realize that according to their cartoons and the infectious cycle works in a way that doesn't make

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sense according to their cartoons the way that these entities work they're not organisms

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they're not species they're not patterned integrity they don't consume energy they don't engage in

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homeostasis and so how in the world could an RNA pandemic

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a transfection to to usefully augment the immune system is not the same as a

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transfection to put a channel adoption into a particular set of neurons in the brain and then

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to sacrifice the animal five weeks later I guess that's my plea to neurobiology around the world

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to people that that worked in the fields that I have patch clamp physiologists people that work on

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transgenic mice people that transfect mice on a regular basis to express channel adopts in

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somewhere or to express some kind of pre-dependent protein expression so you can modify a it you

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all use the tool and you all know it's an acute modification of that animal's physiology to ask

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a question that also requires you essentially to sacrifice the animal because it's not going to

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live a long healthy life after you do that anyway I don't know how to give introductions

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anymore so I that when just came to me I don't know why I decided to give an introduction for the

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neurobiology people out there but I was colleagues with lots of people I met lots of people they all

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know my name they all could send me an email and ask me how I'm doing but they don't because they're

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all very busy in their own careers right they're all climbing that all their own local ladder

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if I was still that's the mistake they made what they should have done was giving me a

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tenure position at Pitt and grant money to work on rats and I would have been you know riding my

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bike and still I'm so excited I get to do experiments today again I got a new microscope to build

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again but instead they told me to go home and put me into the hands of a bunch of retards like

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oh sorry for that word a bunch of monkeys like drastic who for a while had me going

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or put me into the arms of people like who did I stream with for March and April of 2020

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uh Kevin McCairn um Adi ads and Paul Catrell like every weekend for five or six weeks in a row

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in retrospect that is just an absolute clown show but I did pretty well on those streams but my

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goodness what a what a wonderful wonderful team worst case scenario was assembled around the world

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to execute this this operation it was really it's really incredible um this was a national

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security operation I don't know if it would qualify as a global security operation but it's a global

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group of weaponized piles of money and even governments could be thought of as weaponized piles of

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money especially governments that can print their own um and so if you think about these

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weaponized piles of money trying to undermine national sovereignty and trying to undermine

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western republics let's not call them democracies let's call them what we want them to be which is

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republics um with a with an operation which convinced everyone in the world that a pandemic

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occurred or attempted to convince everyone in the world that a pandemic occurred and we've heard

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them lament on screen um people like Mark von Rancz or people like uh Bill Gates or Tony Fauci

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or or or Rick Bright we've heard them all lament that people never take it seriously enough

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you know flu isn't sexy enough anymore and so uh this plan has been in the works for a long time

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I think the sparse pandemic document we worked on that the last couple days in and out um and

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it's got a couple really good examples um which are just the tip of the iceberg for how this was

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done but essentially they've controlled all the voices that you've ever seen and that's why you

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are very rare you're one of the 3100 people or so that actually know that I exist um and the rest

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of the world has no idea because the vast majority of the the way that information moves around our

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world is just programmed a certain way it's not AI magic it's not a bunch of oh well I guess this

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is the way it works no they can just turn switches and flip switches that are assigned to your accounts

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and then your accounts don't go and they can actually make other accounts seem to go

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and so it's all a great big illusion of course but we're still actively trying to engage in twitter

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and facebook sharing and all this other stuff and this is all part of their their illusion

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and they knew that from the very beginning of course they've gained this at a table and so

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they've had people in place so that we would ask the wrong questions and we would never figure it

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out that there was actually probably just a hot background and so that they rolled out a pretty

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non-specific PCR test and told you that this was evidence of a novel spread pretty much no one

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would be able to see through it especially if you had enough people in all the right places

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to take the stand that no no this works this is real and we told you this was gonna happen

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that's the point and so then they added financial incentives to that where they paid 30 000

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dollars for a covid death and they added legal incentive to that because they told people especially

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in new york city curiously enough that if you treated people for covid that there was no malpractice

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because you know it's a novel thing and we don't know what we're doing so you can't be blamed if you

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make mistakes now the interesting posit that i have to this hypothesis which i think a lot of people

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hate is that there are certain people that were co-opted or certain people that were put in place

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very early to make sure that the

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skepticism of the existence of a novel virus could be a controlled position as well

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and this is the the what has now come colloquially called as the no virus group or the no virus

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position and very typically the people that are associated with this very early on in fact by

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none other than kevin mccairn the raccoon commander um was very certain already in march of 2020

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that the no virus position as portrayed by andy coffman repeated the name over and over again

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needed to be destroyed snuffed out eliminated and the same had to happen for the people that said

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that the covid virus was caused by 5g these people also needed needed stomping

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and that's why i think that all of these people on both sides again not all of them but

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collectively all of them because they're winning and unwitting participants once you believe

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that that the guy to follow is is mike eden and then mike eden says well i'm kind of

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starting to become convinced that there are no viruses then you might move closer to the

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no viruses just because mike eden says so and he's a pretty trustworthy smart guy and i totally

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agree with that but i actually when mike eden was starting to go that way i sent an email to

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him and said like dude be careful because this is a trap because all of these past people i got

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unclipped for just one second because i i don't have my bookshelf over here i moved it out of the way

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i have this bookshelf on wheels because it's a real pain in the ass it's in the way all the time

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um but it's got all my stuff on it i can keep it away and i want the old book where is the old

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book that i have where you can go even nothing else but yeah here so

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what i'm oh i got to plug in again now i'm sorry i use wired monitors because it's just better

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and and well i have to use wired monitors i could use speaker monitors too but then you'd hear the

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echo in the room and i would have to play with that instead um so my argument is that

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that it is much more likely that something exists at that time scale this is a book that was thrown

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out of a library thrown out of the squib institute for medical research in princeton new jersey in

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june 18th 19 oh no this was added to the library in june 18th 1984 and then it was discarded

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and it's called the molecular biology and pathogenesis of corona viruses and it is from

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the state university of utrecht in utrecht the netherlands i could show it on here of course

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uh i need to go like this and then like this and then like that so it's this book here

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and it's got a lot of stuff in it um

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oh that was the other volumes in that series so here's the preface the present volume contains

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the proceedings of an embl workshop organized in june of 1983 at the institute of virology

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veterinary faculty at the university of utrecht in the netherlands some 70 scientists from 11

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countries followed the invitation to present and discuss their recent data on the structure

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replication genetics and pathogenesis of corona viruses now what i am suggesting see that they're

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they're usually three polypeptides now it's not what we know now we think it's like 27 or something

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like that which is curious isn't it right we've added all these things maybe we were just maybe

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we just took exosomes that were pretty simple and then we made them more complicated because

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we wanted to test out to see if that we could we could we could work out how how gene modification

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might work or genetic modification might work i don't anyway so look you have a nested set of

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five to six mRNAs in the expression of their large positive and single-stranded RNA genome

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to generate these subgenomic RNAs through specific fusion of non-contiguous sequences

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to mature by budding from intracellular membranes okay that's something that

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is different than budding from the outside which is what what in 2018 a few days ago we listened to

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to uh to David Baltimore tell us they're either budding from the outside of the cell or the cell

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is being broken because they're making so many viruses so that's interesting because coronaviruses

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don't do either of those they're supposed to be born in endosomes and then the endosomes are

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releasing them um and cause persistent infection with neurological involvement sometimes immunopathological

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conditions interesting you can see that this is a really good that there's real old book like

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you know this is almost like it's typed all this stuff is like typed it's really cool um and so in

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here are proceedings about what they what they worked on and so my and now this one's also out of

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focus that's so weird i don't know what's going on i these aren't that's not usually a problem i'm

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sorry i'll figure i'll fix this i will fix the focus

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that should be okay looks a little better um so i guess my what i wanted to say was and where i'm

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going with this i'm going to go back to the front where i'm going with this is trying to suggest

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that the no virus position if it's part of the same slow walk that Brett Weinstein was engaged

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in so Brett Weinstein was first wearing masks and first wearing the thing and first saying that

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zero covid for like until June 21 at least that zero covid was a viable goal that we should go for

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you know to avoid Laurie Garrett's prediction of oh the worst case scenario with one of these

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pandemic viruses is that it goes endemic and we have to suffer with it forever

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and so of course you could tell that exact story about a signal that was already there

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and that nobody cared about nobody paid any attention to they just called it pneumonia and

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influenza in statistics you could take that signal and characterize it well with molecular

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techniques whatever you want or you could just come up with an illusion of consensus that these

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molecular signals are associated with that and that if you don't have symptoms but you have the

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molecular signal that's just asymptomatic spread

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isn't that incredible that's asymptomatic spread stop lying

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and so that entire story that entire story was curated by people on television like Tony Fauci

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arguing with people in the Senate like Rand Paul about lab leak or natural virus

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this this intellectual idea was curated by people who said that there are no viruses at all that

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that the whole idea of germ theory is completely wrong there are no bacteria even are sometimes

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is is dropped in there and now if it's the same slow roll follow me if you've been here and you're

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you're still with me here if it's the same slow role then eventually we're going to get to the stage

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where they are very precise and they're going to say no no we were just talking about SARS-CoV-2

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they haven't isolated SARS-CoV-2 of course there are exosomes we don't know what else is there

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they're just lying oh no gain a function is fake of course gain a function is fake

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no no they probably just put the sooner or later these no virus people if this slow roll is correct

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they're going to also say things like maybe there was a background signal maybe there was a they

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confounded an existing background signal with a test that worked it's not a place they're at yet

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they are still at the place where there are no viruses we have not proven their existence there

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are no signals at this size scale so what were these people all doing in the 80s where were they

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what RNAs were they measuring what RNAs are they measuring here i'm not saying that this is

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great biology or look at these signals they're undeniable what i'm suggesting is is that there

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are hundreds of people that were looking at the RNA signals that can be found in these in these

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preparations can be found in these in these in these methodologies and trying to understand

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what they were and they weren't all liars they could have been misled and i think one of the main

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things that they were misled about is that the signal that they were studying was a pathogenic

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one rather than an innate one or an exogenous one

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other than that they're just measuring the RNA and trying to characterize what happens when they

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move it from one place to another and under the assumption that it's pathology instead of taking

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an endogenous signal from one organism and putting it into another and then that causing

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some obviously predictable immune reaction

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and so the no virus there there is no SARS-CoV-2 unless it is very well done very well explained

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can immediately tumble into something that nobody will listen to

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and indeed i would argue that that's the one thing that they've done so well and i'm i'm

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saving it because i have been watched it and i just know it exists that there was some point

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a c-h-d video where i think maryll nask kevin mccurnan

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andy koffman and somebody else all got together and argued about a very limited you know we're

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only going to argue about isolation and purification we're not going to talk about anything else

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and they never they they reached an impasse

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it's all a big show ladies and gentlemen it's all a big show

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and i do think that giga ohm biological is very close with this with this hypothesis right here

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the identification of infectious clones as the primary methodology by which all RNA virology

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is accomplished and standardized and the realization that these same methodologies have

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already been scaled up inside the pharmaceutical industry for at least two decades because we've

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been making monoclonal antibodies with very similar techniques process twos

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and so it is not ridiculous at all because we even have videos from the beginning of the pandemic

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where enovio was doing process two to make the spike protein

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spike protein RNA and DNA quite frankly and so they had had already started production of

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en masse the DNA and the RNA think about that because the DNA and the RNA is all you need for

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a PCR reaction to be positive if the end protein of this coronavirus is not specific

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and not very you know unique which i don't think it is

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then uh then you just have a nonspecific test in the background and and there is no there are no

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viruses there are no coronaviruses viruses haven't been isolated or purified

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is a really weird kind of parallel but not exact attempt to explain why they're lying

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and so maybe i hope i'm not blowing it i'm probably going too long here let's just get

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started because i got a lot of i got a lot of uh

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you see the thing is that's that this mod RNA guy in the chat is uh a lot of fun

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because he he's he's always engaged in the same thing he's always trying to get me to defend virus

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isolation and sequencing with controls it's it's isolation that these no virus people are

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concerned about in purification that these people are concerned about and the way that they dissect

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the the experiments with regard to metagenomic sequencing

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the way that they dissect the the uh isolation and purification of viruses is totally correct

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and there's nobody who would deny that because people have been saying that for a while

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and they aren't the first people to say it right people said that about AIDS

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and so the argument that i'm making is that it is very very dangerous to say that there's

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nothing at this size scale that none of these signals are real because people have

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in lots of different contexts been looking at the things at this size scale for many decades

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something is there and for some reason or another somebody like david baltimore

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was encouraged to waste his time making a hour-long video explaining the generalities of virology

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in 2018 even though we know most of those generalities aren't true and we know that exosomal

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communication exists maybe we have to do another show on exosomes because

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to make to make clear that these these departments existed in the early 2000s that these

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investigators existed in the early 2000s and everybody was fired up about it in the early 2000s

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and then all of those investigators got absorbed into exosomes associated with cancer

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it's the literal truth because that's where the money was and using exosomes to diagnose cancer

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you can't get money for studying exosomes in health there's there's no grants but there's

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millions if not billions of dollars available for um for studying exosomes in the context

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of cancer and so there you go there it's gone now you're a cancer researcher and you've got tenure

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and you've got money and you have your respect and you have your own little niche

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it's exactly how it works so the reason why i want to visit tom kawen is because i think

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tom kawen is potentially um a medler in the sense of play to roll in maybe containing

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mark and sam bailey for example um i have revealed on the show before and i could show it again

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that i emailed sam bailey very early in the pandemic because i was very impressed with

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her analysis of the pcr test and i actually was saying the same thing at that time

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that it could be a combination of a hot background or just a non-specific test

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um and at that time she was also saying the same thing not really saying there are no viruses

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she didn't care about isolation or or purification at that time and so i contacted her and she was

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pregnant and gonna have a baby so she said after that maybe in six months or so she could

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contact me again and then by the time those six months had expired kevin mccairn my what i thought

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was kind of a colleague um had was playing these these meme videos where her mouth was full of hot

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dogs and there were you know like bimbo bailey kind of thing and really full on the the no-virus

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attack like you gotta we gotta snuff these people these idiots out and so because i had used what

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i thought was adenovirus to transfect my mice for me and i still still think it's adenovirus um

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it's the name we have for those those constructs um to transfect my mice or in this case

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transform um oh no it was actually transfect i feel as though uh i was vulnerable to accepting

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you know the virology as it stood and so this this seemed like a kind of sidebar to distract

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from the idea that it could be a lab leak and so if you told everybody that there was no virus

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that this would make sense that wow okay so then lab leak is also crazy right that never dawned

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on me it dawned what dawned on me was is that you could say there was no virus and then that would

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keep a lot of people away from ever suspecting that this was actually a man-made disaster

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that was a very enticing mystery for me to solve and people like kevin mccairn made sure that i

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thought it was an enticing mystery that people at drastic made sure that i that i thought that i

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was on it that i was one of the best in terms of you know being at the front edge of of solving this

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mystery and i didn't understand that i was being played that i was being lied to by multiple people

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even though i should have i mean drastic is almost exclusively people who don't use their

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own name especially at that time and on the far spectrum of this me being kind of on the side of

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of adi ads and paul katrel and kevin mccairn at the in in april and may

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was to oppose uh anti-coffman because he says there are no viruses and that he says this is all

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pleomorphic cycle or something like that and he would go off and i'll be like oh i don't want

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anything about that that's crazy all i know is that our immune system is probably better off

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just hopefully you know be healthy i didn't know that was the only thing i knew for sure

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but in the meantime all these people just like the people who knew fear and cleavage site was a

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lab leak in february these people knew there was no virus and so i had to look that up actually

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i'm going to change that now i had to look that up it was 2023 it was just a year ago so we can do

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that like that and then i can resume the slideshow there we go um so we're going to do 2024

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versus 2023 so from 2024 i have selected a tom kawin question and answer video which i found on

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sub stack thanks to one of you guys um and then i'm going to watch at higher speed the video that

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supposedly was made in response to my email that i wrote when i was still a um scientific

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advisor for uh Robert F Kennedy jr and before i had actually started working for chd um i was

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still helping with the book and uh mary holland actually asked me to write a response to christine

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massy and the response that i wrote was basically what i've been trying to teach for the last

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you know year or so which is that i think that there's a way for all of us to be right

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i think that you guys are right about there being no sarsko v2 virus isolated or spreading

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around the world i think you're right about the pcr test being used to create that illusion

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but i also think you might underestimate how easy it would be for them to create that

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illusion with real molecular signals that they could use infectious clones to see the narrative

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and it wouldn't need to spread it would just need to be culturable it just need to be

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sequenceable and it would convince even more people that would otherwise be able to see through

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the illusion because this would be seen as sort of like gold standard proof that was beyond a

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reasonable doubt and that i thought we could come together on this idea and it would be very

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exciting and they laid into it what did they do they got immediately mad and they wanted

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they wanted me to send papers to show that infectious clones were real

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and and called me uh and just another one of these people

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and so there was no bridge there was no attempt to understand there was oh wow you want to you

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want to listen to us you think a lot of things we know nothing at all was an immediate attack

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slander bang boom

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um and there was a little bit of a conversation with mary and um christine massy that was recorded

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on somewhere and i think it was uh a doctors for covid ethics meeting and mary said it very

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subtly um that we don't think that it's it's a nuanced enough position and that's basically what

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i said in my email that i wrote for them on their behalf

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and she rejected them and so here we are now still separated rather than coming together on the

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idea that they lied to us that we've been lied to collectively we're still separated we're still

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fighting about this and so maryll nass even writes a sub stack about how we shouldn't be fighting

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but then she seems to signal that she's talking about people like mike eden or jessica hocket

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or mark kulek or jonathan cooey

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she's not talking about the no virus people anymore as being dividers or or could bring us

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together when they have a tremendous following of people who are already very skeptical already

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very open-minded and already willing to understand that they've been lied to but it's not a simple lie

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and if you give people a simple explanation that is not sufficient then you're not giving them

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the freedom you're not giving them the informed consent that you claim you are and i would argue

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that maybe Andy Kaufman maybe Tom Cowan maybe that was their role for 2020 and 2021 to make sure

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that people like Sam Bailey and and Mark Bailey or make sure that people like Stefan Lanka would

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have somebody in front of them so that the real message of wow they're lying to us would never get

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out and instead would be clouded by this you know all this technical talk about what is isolation

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and control and what is what is purification and control and we only want to argue about these

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two things because if these two things aren't right and they don't have any proof and these

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foyas are real then then there's no discussion anymore yeah technically that's true

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but it doesn't seem like a very genuine way to bring everybody on your side when reality is is

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that they lied to us and we might not know all the lies we might not have all the details

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and there might be some technologies we don't fully understand there might be some

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there might be some things we don't understand so let's go let's do this i know that was a terribly

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long introduction 52 minutes i'm should almost stop this video and start it again

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um so that we can get it right so this is just taken from very recently i think it's just last

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week even here we go okay hello everybody thanks for joining me again for another wednesday webinar

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today may first 2024 oh no it's a couple days ago there we go the significance of mayday is but

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it's got something to do with workers i think okay uh don't think there's any announcements

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so let me get right into it today i wanted to talk about a subject that i've talked about before

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but this week on tuesday one of the weekly webinars now there's not very many of them that i actually

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watch is uh the bailey's sam and mark i believe it comes out every tuesday morning at least for me

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and i want it to piggyback a little bit uh on the uh on the webinar they did i get on hypermectin

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but i also think i think that there's really no argument mr and a man mod r and a this is a

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response to a chat i don't think that there can be any argument made that pcr can work

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i don't think there can be any argument made that sequencing works um i don't think there

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can be any argument made that that growing large amounts of dna in a bacterial culture works i

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don't think there is any argument that can be made that if you take and construct what they call an

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infectious clone and then apply it to a cell culture that the cell culture may react to it

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um it may cause things to change uh i also think that this is enough for them to with an illusion

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of consensus between virologists uh wittingly and unwittingly to create the illusion that this is a

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significant threat to our well-being when it's not and that they can create the illusion that

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none of these signals are our own none of these signals are endogenous they're all pathogenic

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obligate pathogens from outside and that's of course a mythology but if the goal is to slow roll us

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to that truth while they controlled demolition the entire republic of the west

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um then these people may be a part of it because eventually we do have to get to the truth

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it's just that we don't want to get to it too fast and because if we get to it too fast that

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all of us won't be in the cage when we finally learn the truth that's really what i believe

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they're doing to us we could have had everything and know everything that we know right now in 2020

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because mary holland maryll nass robert f Kennedy jr and all the people that work for chd

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knew that the vaccine schedule in america was criminal and if compared to any other vaccine

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schedule in world would be obviously criminal so they could have told us that right away in 2020

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said it unequivocally this is the time to realize that the public health apparatus is

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crucially it's crucially corrupt but they didn't

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instead we thought we talked about mandates and we talked about censorship and we're still

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talking about mandates and censorship they're not actually going for the throat because it's

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not time to go to the throat yet because not all the pigs are in the cage

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not all the brains are trapped not everybody is locked in once everybody's inside the gate

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will close and it'll be over for our grandchildren and at that time there will be everybody will

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be inside and then everybody will say see the no virus people were right there was never a

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SARS-CoV-2 they were lying about it see kui was right there was a background signal

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see and it'll be too late i'll be dead

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my kids will be gone and the only people that will remember will be a few old people on their

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rocking chairs who just happened to catch me when they were in college

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just like i'm talking about Ted Gunderson or Mike Rupert or Ed Griffin for that matter

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who i'm going to get a chance to meet in june god willing

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and then their stories will also disappear like elders lost

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it's a slow role ladies and gentlemen and certain people were put in place to make sure the role

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would be slow they stepped in front of other people who were speaking out stepped in front

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of other people and that stepping in front of other people is the trick to see

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and i don't know who did it but i suspect we could figure it out if we wanted to i suspect

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each of us could figure it out if we wanted to okay tom sorry go ahead

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i think that they everybody who's interested in the subject of ivermectin

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should absolutely go watch that video that webinar or whatever it is that just came out with

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i think it's dr sambailey.com i'm not sure exactly that's exactly the right website

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but absolutely that should be checked out and i just wanted to not correct anything not by any

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means but just to emphasize some things just which i have actually been over before

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the reason of course is i'm continually well i don't know if i'd use the word shocked or

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surprised because not too much shocks or surprises me anymore but let's just say

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interested in how many of the people that i know who are allegedly in the health freedom

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space and community are either taking ivermectin so-called prophylactically

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or have taken it for nice illness that they've had in the last four years good for you tom claim

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to be covid i wouldn't have expected that maybe maybe i would but it's just there's so many of them

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that i think it's still worth revisiting that subject because i guess the bottom line here is

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this is one of those clever they they being the perpetrators or the controllers or whatever you

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want to call them have a very clear strategy with so many things so many things of there's a

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conventional narrative and then there's the alternative narrative which always cast

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so is he so versions and usually there's so do you think that he was saying this already as long as

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we've been saying it the idea that they have so many plans in place

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actually most of the time when these people encounter anybody they insist on talking about

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only one damn thing and that's isolation or purification of viruses that's it they only want

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to talk about whether you believe sometimes they even tell you that unless you'll say that there's

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there's no virus i don't even want to speak to you that's how they roll

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and so there is no effort to connect there is no effort to come to some collective understanding

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and he will now tell you that they've never engaged in any insults or or been short with

01:00:35.720 --> 01:00:43.160
anybody or been less than cordial it's just all of us being really uh mean and stuff like that

01:00:43.160 --> 01:00:49.080
jay cooey being really mean being one of them you'll see in a minute when we watch the their

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response video to my email you're gonna love it elements of intrigue and collusion and criminal

01:00:56.440 --> 01:01:01.800
activity against the dominant uh people in the dominant system and that becomes the alternative

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narrative close my window here and that's the only two things you're allowed to believe

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so in this case the of course the alternative uh sorry the conventional

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narrative for co for covid is caused by a virus and the only possible uh you know preventative

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treatment or thing you can do to stop the virus at the end of the day because we know hand washing

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and masks and social distancing and all that don't really work so you have to do the vaccine

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and then along comes the so-called freedom community and you don't need me to name any

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names here but most of them have been in lockstep about this saying oh no there's this pandemic

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for sure and it's caused by a virus for sure now we think it's a lab leak virus or a lab

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created virus we've been over that but even a bigger scandal is whatever whichever virus it's

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caused by it certainly is effectively treated by this safe and effective we've heard that one before

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drug called ivermectin which is cheap and it's a miracle drug and so the reason that they've

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suppressed that uh the treat the the successful almost miraculous treatment of this viral infection

01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:11.800
with this miracle drug called ivermectin is because there's seemingly some clause that says

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if there's an effective treatment for this pandemic or this situation then you can't fast track or

01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:24.520
some administrative words of the vaccine so they had to the narrative the alternative narrative

01:02:24.520 --> 01:02:30.200
goes you had to get rid of the ivermectin story unfortunately for us poor people because ivermectin

01:02:30.200 --> 01:02:35.480
is such a wonderful drug and anyways there was a nobel prize given for the discovery of ivermectin

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which if you know anything about the nobel prize process that should make red the strongest red

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flags go off uh you know joining the ranks of uh i want to show you something this reminds me

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enders and a whole bunch of other nobel prize winners um so uh and they've suppressed the

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research and the anecdotal experience and the experience of numerous hard-working frontline

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doctors all out there saving lives with this wonder drug called ivermectin and the only reason

01:03:05.800 --> 01:03:11.960
the government and the pharmaceutical companies are suppressing this antiviral wonder drug is because

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if they allowed that to get out people would have an easy treatment for covid and then they wouldn't

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be able to fast track the vaccine and then they wouldn't be able to kill us all with the vaccine

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so if you're an alternatively leaning person that's your that's what you're meant to believe

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and of course neither of those have any relation to reality and just to give you an idea you hear

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many many doctors you know going on their various platforms and talking about

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I really got to say I think um the only thing I can say is kudos to tom for explaining it so well

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um you know that I've been saying this for quite some time now um and the only thing for me is that

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I just didn't understand how many people were involved in it I still at some point thought that

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CHD and the people at the top of CHD were all just in it to win it and they once they had my

01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:14.680
information they were gonna crush of course now you know what happened with me and CHD uh whatever

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I said on December 23rd apparently got me fired I want to show you this newspaper that I have from

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Norway it is um it is the address vison address vison uh and it is uh from how the hell's the date

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holy shit uh 10 10 uh 10 10 0 9 um and so this is the the time when the peace prize was given to

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to uh to this guy um Barack Obama and the reason why I want to show you this is because

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well I got to look at the page it's on 18 you know there are newspapers in the world that's funny

01:05:06.040 --> 01:05:11.320
on 18 here we go there it is so check this out I just want to show you this because

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um it's funny and he mentioned Nobel Prize right so first of all star star for that

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explanation on what ivermectin in early treatment was um actually thomas binder and i have also

01:05:25.160 --> 01:05:33.160
explained that very well and actually mike eden was cited by maryll nass in her second to latest

01:05:33.160 --> 01:05:41.880
substack um where she said that that mike eden attacked uh uh test lorry for advocating for

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early treatment uh for a disease that didn't exist and and kind of said that this kind of

01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:54.600
division wasn't uh wasn't was gonna ruin us because there definitely was a covid and then

01:05:54.600 --> 01:06:00.520
today she did a substack restacking uh a couple other articles that she wrote about why there's

01:06:00.520 --> 01:06:08.840
really a covid oh the insistence the insistence is revealing the certainty is revealing check

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this out this is this is yours truly in the uh Norwegian newspaper standing in the road of uh

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trondheim and here oh shit that was a aberrant aberrant mouse click there i apologize um here

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it is jonathan jkui 37 oh man look how fat i am and healthy um from wisconsin and matt burt from

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illinois we only met each other that day and never talked again um we were both uh our obama

01:06:44.200 --> 01:06:49.480
sympathizers but we both say that it's a really big mistake and i'm actually quoted in here as

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as uh saying that it undermines it is not a not a candidate for the nobel peace price says

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hentia new biologist jonathan kui from wisconsin um so i don't know if that got me on a shit list or

01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:10.200
not but anyway there's that that's one of my most favorite little things i got from uh

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from norway my time there that was a fun interview um so yeah tom kawen sorry we we are we're having

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fun because he's actually doing really well a crucial point i can't emphasize that enough a crucial

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point is that ivermectin is an anti-viral agent that is crucial to the whole story so of course

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nobody asked them ever and up to this point not that i've looked extensively but i've never heard

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extensively but i've never heard any of them not cori not col not kirsch he's not a doctor

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not mr cola not melone not big tree nobody's saying here's how we have proven that ivermectin

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is an anti-viral agent absolutely a magnificent point um wasn't ivermectin

01:07:58.120 --> 01:08:03.480
identified by domain as being a potential candidate wasn't that the whole

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am i wrong is is mark in the chat was it was it also on domain because that might be one of the

01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:18.440
only reasons why they think it works um that is an interesting uh observation he's definitely not

01:08:18.440 --> 01:08:28.840
wrong um anti-viral is very very specific term um that doesn't mean very much in the context of an

01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:34.040
infectious cycle cartoon that we know is wrong therefore there is a plausible rationale thanks

01:08:34.040 --> 01:08:39.560
mark we're using it for covid now that's curious because why didn't anybody ask them why didn't

01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:44.600
anybody ask peter mccullick how does he know that ivermectin is an anti-viral agent i would like that

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to be struck from the record because peter mccullo is advocating for hydroxychloroquine at the beginning

01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:55.480
of the pandemic not ivermectin and it's actually pere cori who has a book about ivermectin that's

01:08:55.560 --> 01:09:01.480
a mistake that's annoying since it's one of the things that his clinic regularly uses and sells

01:09:01.480 --> 01:09:06.920
for people who are suffering from the viral infection called covid so that could be his

01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:11.720
clinic could sell it the wellness company also distributes it uh it's also been associated

01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:17.160
with zeb zalenko although i would suggest to you that that's also wrong because zeb was not

01:09:17.160 --> 01:09:23.960
advocating for ivermectin he was actually near his death advocating for zinc ionophores and zinc

01:09:24.040 --> 01:09:29.480
supplementation that's it and he didn't even specify what zinc ionophore you could choose

01:09:29.480 --> 01:09:35.960
he gave you a list there's a green tea extract there is a thing called quesareton however you

01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:42.600
say it and then i think hydroxychloroquine is also thought to be a mobilizer of zinc although i am

01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:50.440
not an expert on the the chemical attributes of hydroxychloroquine oh the sam went over this but

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i wanted to emphasize this uh because this is again something i've talked about before

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but everybody should know this in their back pocket they should know it cold so if you run

01:09:58.840 --> 01:10:05.320
into anybody who touts ivermectin or treating covid you can pull this out and ask them the first

01:10:05.320 --> 01:10:12.600
question you ask them how do they who how when did they demonstrate that ivermectin is an anti-viral

01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:18.760
agent so here's how the story goes our old friend leon kailey who's the quote virologist from

01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:23.160
australia who wrote one of the most important papers which i won't pull up but it's on sam's

01:10:23.160 --> 01:10:29.080
webinar uh wrote one of the most important covid papers because it was the paper that described

01:10:29.080 --> 01:10:35.320
the i believe the first case of isolation of sars kov-2 outside of china that is to say in australia

01:10:35.960 --> 01:10:41.320
so how did he do it of course he took one person who was diagnosed with covid how was he diagnosed

01:10:41.320 --> 01:10:47.400
based on the christian drossden pcr primers even though christian drossden says in his paper

01:10:47.400 --> 01:10:52.360
we designed or came up with these primers without ever having access to the virus

01:10:52.360 --> 01:10:57.320
which is an amazing slight of hand if you think about it no it's not see this is where i think

01:10:57.320 --> 01:11:06.200
they go wrong and so what i would very respectfully like to explain is that if the proxy that is

01:11:06.200 --> 01:11:13.880
accepted by the consensus is the presence of the sequence then looking for a sequence

01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:19.320
can be done using primers designed from that sequence you don't need to have

01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:26.200
that sequence in the house you don't have to have the infectious cloned copy of that sequence you

01:11:26.200 --> 01:11:34.200
just have to know the sequence and there is some truth to this and it works with endogenous genes

01:11:34.200 --> 01:11:40.840
with endogenous RNA and and we we know how to do that the question is whether or not the fidelity

01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:45.160
of these primers in this test on whatever background is present is real

01:11:47.480 --> 01:11:53.240
the question is whether or not this signal was present before 2020 or not or would have been

01:11:53.240 --> 01:11:59.400
present with any with with the same frequency that it was measured once we started rolling

01:11:59.400 --> 01:12:08.120
out these many many tests and so he's very right but he's also very wrong

01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:13.720
and it's that subtle wrongness that whether it's whitting or unwitting we've got to correct

01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:20.440
because PCR works it is highly precise if you use nested primers it's ridiculously precise

01:12:21.080 --> 01:12:27.000
and if we wanted to demonstrate that the nicotinic receptor content of of a certain

01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:32.440
internor on subclass in the brain of a mouse was upregulated in a certain context we could do it

01:12:33.080 --> 01:12:39.240
and we would measure the mRNA in single cells and we could show a difference between the transcript

01:12:39.240 --> 01:12:43.720
count in a one neuron versus an inactivated neuron that's possible

01:12:46.120 --> 01:12:49.880
and with very vigorous controls that's even publishable

01:12:52.520 --> 01:13:01.640
but none of that rigor that underlies the specificity of PCR in the context of academic biology was

01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:07.240
applied in the context of the pandemic because it was an emergency because we had to cut corners

01:13:07.240 --> 01:13:13.080
and so that opened the door for lies and exaggeration about the fidelity of these products in the

01:13:13.080 --> 01:13:19.800
first place but by distracting people and saying that well he didn't even have the virus so how

01:13:19.800 --> 01:13:25.960
could he how could he design primers is misrepresenting how this biology works

01:13:26.440 --> 01:13:33.720
and completely distracting you wittingly or unwittingly from the possibility whatever that is that

01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:41.080
there was a background signal that could be distorted as the spread of something and there aren't very

01:13:41.080 --> 01:13:46.920
many examples that work very well for this but if I try the best one I can come up with is automobiles

01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:53.320
if you could somehow convince people that there are no automobiles in the world

01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:59.160
and then give them a test and say if you go down to your garage

01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:07.000
and you look for wheels you may be an asymptomatic carrier of an automobile

01:14:08.440 --> 01:14:13.080
you could be very specific about it if you wanted to at first so that it that you didn't know

01:14:14.120 --> 01:14:18.280
whether you had it or not it might be that the the specific version is a Toyota

01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:26.760
the deadly version is a Toyota then it changes to Kia and so if the test is for rubber wheels in

01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:31.560
your garage then a lot of people test positive if they test but it would all depend on whether

01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:36.760
they were given a test or not everybody else would just not know that they had an automobile because

01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:41.960
they've been convinced that there are no automobiles in the world until they brought a test to their

01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:47.640
garage and they found out they had an automobile and then we could sequence them we could say wow

01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:52.520
it's currently the Toyota going around and you wouldn't have the resolution because you were

01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:56.840
just measuring for wheels but you would assume it was a Toyota because if it is it could kill

01:14:56.840 --> 01:15:05.320
your grandparents and then slowly but surely they can roll out this this this evolutionary tree of

01:15:05.320 --> 01:15:14.520
wow it's gone from Toyota to Kia to and and now the latest variant is a Chevy and because you

01:15:14.600 --> 01:15:18.440
weren't testing for Chevys at the beginning of the pandemic then you didn't find them

01:15:22.120 --> 01:15:28.040
and so as we move forward and farther and farther it seems like this this idea of an automobile has

01:15:28.040 --> 01:15:37.800
spread everywhere they're literally everywhere holy shit I guess it went endemic and the only

01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:42.440
trick that's necessary there is if you could possibly convince the entire world that there

01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:46.680
were no automobiles that they didn't exist they don't you don't know what they are we don't

01:15:46.680 --> 01:15:51.560
understand them but everybody's vulnerable we all need transportation

01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:58.440
little did you know that you've been riding around in an automobile and you didn't know it that's

01:15:59.320 --> 01:16:06.520
the illusion of a coronavirus pandemic if my hypothesis is true and that is that there is a

01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:12.600
signal out there that could easily be distorted as a high resolution high fidelity measurement

01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:20.120
of a spreading pathogen when it really wasn't and there's good molecular biological tools

01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:29.320
and good method logic oh I mean microbiological methodologies with which to construct that illusion

01:16:30.120 --> 01:16:36.920
and so by saying things as simple as well he didn't have the virus so how could he make PCR

01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:44.440
test that just shows that either he doesn't understand how PCR works as a tool in an academic

01:16:44.440 --> 01:16:52.040
bench setting where there are adequate controls and the the goal is is the highest fidelity possible

01:16:52.040 --> 01:16:54.280
versus what happened during the pandemic

01:16:59.640 --> 01:17:04.920
and it misleads people into thinking that there's a real simple way to object to this when it's not

01:17:04.920 --> 01:17:09.240
that simple and all the academic biologists know that that's part of the reason why they keep their

01:17:09.240 --> 01:17:18.520
mouth shut I hope I'm not wasting my time here this is a real important message to get right but

01:17:18.520 --> 01:17:26.680
it might take me more than one try because it is a very subtle nuanced message I don't know what

01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:33.400
the truth is but it is more complicated than these people often projected as and that frustrates me

01:17:33.400 --> 01:17:39.080
that's all I'm saying I would love to talk to them about it how can you develop a test using a piece

01:17:39.080 --> 01:17:45.160
of something when you never had access to something to the something that obviously is irrational

01:17:45.160 --> 01:17:50.520
illogical and ridiculous but anyway so they used that to claim this person had covid then they took

01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:55.400
some of their mucus otherwise known as snot didn't look for any virus in it didn't purify it

01:17:55.960 --> 01:18:00.920
meaning they didn't extract a virus from that did the usual inoculate that on monkey kidney

01:18:00.920 --> 01:18:05.720
cells take away the nutrition and the antibiotics and the fetal calf serum you the monkey kidney

01:18:05.720 --> 01:18:11.960
cells broke down and in some bizarre Orwellian use of the word isolation that becomes the first

01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:19.160
isolate which has a name outside of China right so that's called the isolation of SARS-CoV-2

01:18:19.160 --> 01:18:25.320
which again is totally illogical ridiculous and anti-scientific how is isolation obtained

01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:31.720
through the process of adding stuff to mucus then turns out this same by the way

01:18:32.600 --> 01:18:37.400
that was the same paper which we've again gone over many times where they showed electron microscope

01:18:37.400 --> 01:18:43.640
images of the SARS-CoV-2 virions that's individual viruses that they obtained from this culture

01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:49.720
with the comment that they didn't look like the usual coronavirus spiked virions until they added

01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:55.160
trypsin to digest away the outside protein coat and there when they digested it then it looked

01:18:55.160 --> 01:19:01.160
like it had spikes which is it's amazing that they get away with this but they do and so he was the

01:19:01.160 --> 01:19:08.040
guy who did that but but that's just cutting the fear and cleavage site of the protein so that

01:19:08.040 --> 01:19:13.320
it changes configuration instead of being a little knob becomes longer and floppier

01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:22.120
which again I'm not willing to say that all protein biologists are lying we've been studying

01:19:22.120 --> 01:19:28.280
the fusion proteins of these exosomes for a long time and we know that there are a lot of common

01:19:28.280 --> 01:19:34.520
mechanisms and hinges in these tertiary structures of these proteins and that certain

01:19:34.520 --> 01:19:38.680
regions of these proteins are highly conserved because of that functionality

01:19:41.400 --> 01:19:47.320
now again I think it's possible here that this slippery slope is now suggesting that all these

01:19:47.320 --> 01:19:51.240
protein people are lying that all these measurements that we've made are bullshit

01:19:51.400 --> 01:19:58.520
that these proteins themselves don't exist so that when we treat them with trypsin we shouldn't

01:19:58.520 --> 01:20:04.600
expect them to change configuration a virologist can listen to this and then say yeah but I mean

01:20:04.600 --> 01:20:10.360
come on we know that they change configuration when you expose them to trypsin rixie would say the

01:20:10.360 --> 01:20:19.080
same thing mccaren would say the same thing and so it's a difficult place for me to be here because

01:20:19.160 --> 01:20:23.240
again I don't want to attack anybody anymore I don't want to say any but I just think we've all

01:20:23.240 --> 01:20:30.360
been so thoroughly confused and he's there he's very close he knows that they've got everything

01:20:30.360 --> 01:20:36.280
covered so if he knows that they've got everything covered I wonder if he suspected of anybody in

01:20:36.280 --> 01:20:45.960
his group was also covered or part of the cover up so maybe it's not Tom maybe it's Andy

01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:53.960
Andy Kaufman gave some talks that included the word exosome in early 2020 and then never again

01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:59.320
and I noticed that his talk at the red pill conference has nothing to do with viruses at all

01:20:59.720 --> 01:21:07.720
in in in june I can't believe I'm on the same speaker card as Andrew Kaufman and Mickey Willis

01:21:07.720 --> 01:21:14.440
in june it's it's absolutely insane but I'm gonna try my best to express my

01:21:15.160 --> 01:21:23.240
frustration with the lack of nuance and the lack of of sophistication with regard to opposing

01:21:23.240 --> 01:21:29.160
this mythology and I agree with the general strategy of start with the idea that they've

01:21:29.160 --> 01:21:34.040
lied or exaggerated just like peter teal said in 2019 that I play over and over because I think

01:21:34.040 --> 01:21:40.040
it's important to realize that that's the truth that the specialization has allowed people to really

01:21:40.040 --> 01:21:46.120
just go off in any direction they want and create all kinds of of models of reality that

01:21:46.120 --> 01:21:53.000
don't need to be verified and virology is is is one of the most glaring examples of that and so

01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:59.880
there are many of these objections are very right and then some of them are done so awkwardly that

01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:07.480
they end up undermining the other good arguments that they make and I just am I can become suspicious

01:22:07.560 --> 01:22:13.320
as to whether that's on purpose or by accident in other words we found stars from pieces of

01:22:13.320 --> 01:22:17.800
wood but only after we called a carpenter who to cut the outside pieces out so that would look

01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:23.880
like stars that's the level of scientific discord here so then he takes this broken down cell

01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:28.600
culture of monkey kidney cells he inoculates that onto another culture of monkey kidney cells

01:22:29.320 --> 01:22:34.840
doesn't doesn't use a control or says he uses a mock control which has nothing in it so nothing

01:22:34.920 --> 01:22:41.800
from any inoculated monkey kidney cells and doesn't actually describe the the actual details of the

01:22:41.800 --> 01:22:47.080
mock infection so we have no idea that everything else was even the same as in the so in the experimental

01:22:47.080 --> 01:22:53.400
group which means it is not a scientific paper so then he takes this monkey broken down monkey

01:22:53.400 --> 01:22:58.520
kidney cell again takes away the nutrients adds it to to the monkey kidney a new batch of monkey

01:22:58.520 --> 01:23:03.000
kidney cells and then takes away the nutrition adds more antibiotics more fetal calf serum

01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:08.200
and in this time he adds a little bit of ivermectin and then he finds that the kidney cells

01:23:08.200 --> 01:23:14.920
took longer in the added ivermectin group than in the no added ivermectin group which he claims

01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:20.600
shows that ivermectin killed the stars cove two or inhibited the growth of the stars cove two

01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:27.400
virus just to be clear at no point in this did any virus actually get discovered or found or

01:23:27.400 --> 01:23:32.200
identified there was no point in this experiment where you could even possibly conclude that it

01:23:32.200 --> 01:23:37.080
was inhibiting the growth of the virus all you can say is that when you take broken down monkey

01:23:37.080 --> 01:23:41.720
kidney cells with snot in it and you inoculate that onto other monkey kidney cells and the one

01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:47.080
you add ivermectin and the other you don't the one you add ivermectin took longer to break down than

01:23:47.080 --> 01:23:51.400
the one that you didn't add ivermectin so he's more or less right i'm sure i would could look

01:23:51.400 --> 01:23:55.240
at the paper but i'm sure he's more or less right and i think that this is indeed part of

01:23:55.240 --> 01:24:01.400
the illusion that they intended to create they also did experiments right with hydroxychloroquine

01:24:01.400 --> 01:24:07.880
or with ivermectin where it was obvious that they weren't testing it in the right context or with

01:24:07.880 --> 01:24:15.800
the appropriate dose or with real people and so then all of these these objections were were visible

01:24:17.720 --> 01:24:23.160
like it wasn't even it was like so hamfistedly done that at first it seemed like wow they're

01:24:23.160 --> 01:24:27.560
so desperate but then when you look at it in retrospect it looks much more like it was just

01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:34.200
orchestrated and then they gave these torches to the people that were part of the controlled

01:24:34.200 --> 01:24:39.480
opposition here you you carry the torch of hydroxychloroquine for a little while here you carry the

01:24:39.480 --> 01:24:45.080
torch of ivermectin for us and write a book here you carry the torch of verus for a while and focus

01:24:45.080 --> 01:24:51.000
exclusively on that and if we have to we'll pull Malone out and he can carry the torch on

01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:57.800
objecting to the RNA claiming that he invented it and he'll just slow roll his objection from a

01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:11.720
beach in hawaii all the way up to the senate in 2024 so he's kind of on it you know and that's

01:25:11.720 --> 01:25:15.720
really great it's too bad we could have been here a year ago at least we could have been here a year

01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:21.800
ago with with mary holland and maybe even bobby kennedy in a zoom meeting but we aren't

01:25:23.320 --> 01:25:27.720
i wanted that real bad but for some reason it just didn't happen

01:25:30.120 --> 01:25:37.240
and for some reason instead mary holland and christine massy met on a on a doctors for covid

01:25:37.240 --> 01:25:44.760
ethics show and that's all oh and then there's the response video that we're going to watch later

01:25:44.760 --> 01:25:49.480
which is just fantastic that's what you can say so if you want to take ivermectin based

01:25:49.480 --> 01:25:53.560
on the fact that in case that your problem that you're experiencing symptoms with

01:25:53.560 --> 01:25:57.720
is because you have monkey kidney cells with fetal bovide serum and antibiotics

01:25:57.720 --> 01:26:02.280
and viral transport medium breaking down in your body and you want to prevent it from breaking

01:26:02.280 --> 01:26:10.200
down as quickly then you might have some rationale for taking ivermectin but in order to say that

01:26:10.200 --> 01:26:14.520
you have to say that that is the problem with covid and i think you would have a damn hard time

01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:23.080
proving that so the question then uh is uh so so that before i say that that is the entire basis

01:26:23.080 --> 01:26:29.000
for the claim that ivermectin is an antiviral agent which is the basis for the claim that it's

01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:34.440
an effective treatment or something called covid which is the basis for the claim that there was

01:26:34.440 --> 01:26:40.040
some sort of conspiracy against the wonderful wonder drug safe and effective ivermectin so that

01:26:40.040 --> 01:26:44.760
they could bring in a vaccine which is what you were sold when you decided to take ivermectin

01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:50.840
by the health freedom community that's the story now some people will complain and comment and

01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:56.280
criticize but i or my friend or my 20 friends they took ivermectin and they felt better

01:26:57.160 --> 01:27:01.880
so how could you explain uh maryll nass was giving ivermectin that's part of her story right

01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:07.640
in that well first of all that's uh that has nothing to do with the proof which i just went

01:27:07.640 --> 01:27:13.160
through that ivermectin cannot possibly be an antiviral agent so that is independent we already

01:27:13.160 --> 01:27:19.720
know that that's the case ivermectin has no relationship to anything to do with viruses nor does anything

01:27:19.720 --> 01:27:26.360
else but you do have this observation see i hate that it's just not it's not nuanced enough and

01:27:26.360 --> 01:27:31.880
it's getting people to not think it's turning people's brains off instead of making them

01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:35.640
realize that in order for them to understand the lie there's still some work to be done

01:27:36.280 --> 01:27:43.080
so how do you explain that well it turns out that ivermectin is a a interestingly and very toxic

01:27:43.080 --> 01:27:48.440
to the nervous system this has been documented over and over again it's also functions shout

01:27:48.440 --> 01:27:53.400
out to tim truth i think he's really been hammering this home and doing a good job of it i think

01:27:53.480 --> 01:27:58.200
mark has also given him a little props for that shout out to tim as an anti-fertility agent

01:27:58.200 --> 01:28:03.320
which may be one of the reasons why it's so widely used in africa it's also widely used in

01:28:03.320 --> 01:28:08.920
animals i just found out yesterday that most horses and most dogs who are treated by conventional

01:28:08.920 --> 01:28:14.760
vets uh take ivermectin basically once a month and there's lots of neurological problems including

01:28:14.760 --> 01:28:20.360
seizure and disorientation and other neurological problems that come about through the continual

01:28:20.360 --> 01:28:24.840
use of ivermectin so it is it is not a benign chemical that's what it is

01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:31.160
being take make no mistake about that is a pharmaceutical made chemical just like many others

01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:37.160
and it seems to have two effects one is it has a prednisone-like effect which means that i can

01:28:37.160 --> 01:28:42.760
guarantee that anybody who has so-called flu-like type symptoms or symptoms which we associate with

01:28:42.760 --> 01:28:48.360
covid which is basically an inflammatory response due to some sort of insult not a new disease by

01:28:48.440 --> 01:28:54.520
any means but lots of people get inflammatory responses due to a wide variety of insults

01:28:54.520 --> 01:29:00.600
and if you take prednisone you will feel better you will also have made yourself dramatically worse

01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:06.280
because all of these so-called flu-like or so-called covid-like or so-called detoxification

01:29:06.280 --> 01:29:11.800
like symptoms are your body's way of doing a house cleaning and it's no secret that you can

01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:17.320
stop those those house cleaning responses with strong pharmaceutical drugs and you will think

01:29:17.320 --> 01:29:23.080
you feel better but actually now you've only stopped your body from doing its detoxification

01:29:23.080 --> 01:29:30.040
house cleaning strategy and you will ultimately be a lot worse because that's how you heal so make

01:29:30.040 --> 01:29:35.560
no mistake about it ivermectin stops the healing process oh i like that idea Brett Weinstein's

01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:41.880
brain being affected by ivermectin is very good i like that pam that's wonderful just like prednisone

01:29:41.960 --> 01:29:48.680
just like hydroxychloroquine just like giving you know monoclonal antibodies none of them work

01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:54.840
with how we actually heal and another interesting i would say a hypothesis which i can't prove

01:29:54.840 --> 01:30:00.040
is that one of the ways that all of these drugs work is they stimulate the sympathetic nervous

01:30:00.040 --> 01:30:05.400
system and it turns out that the healing response is basically a parasympathetic nervous system

01:30:05.400 --> 01:30:10.920
response so when we're relaxed and we're not stressed and when our digestion is working

01:30:10.920 --> 01:30:15.640
and when we're healing that is essentially in controlled by the parasympathetic nervous

01:30:15.640 --> 01:30:20.760
system when you give somebody prednisone or hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin you stimulate

01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:26.600
the sympathetic nervous system response which then stops the healing causes the nervous system

01:30:26.600 --> 01:30:32.760
symptoms like seizures that you see with with ivermectin in particular and you you essentially

01:30:32.760 --> 01:30:38.200
have stopped your body from healing and so that's how it works so the argument that aunt Fred or

01:30:38.200 --> 01:30:43.240
uncle harry or whoever you felt better is no different you would be better off probably taking

01:30:43.240 --> 01:30:48.120
high dose of prednisone if your only goal is to make yourself worse but feel better today i would

01:30:48.120 --> 01:30:55.000
be interested to hear what somebody like perechory or maryll nass would respond to this argument because

01:30:55.000 --> 01:31:00.680
i'm not an MD i defer to them when it comes to knowing how these drugs work because i don't know

01:31:00.680 --> 01:31:06.920
how president prednisone works and so this is a very cool argument that i would love to see

01:31:06.920 --> 01:31:13.000
fielded um to other mds what i'd also like to hear these mds comment about is high flow

01:31:13.640 --> 01:31:18.280
pure nasal oxygen given to people in the hospital and how many symptoms could have

01:31:18.280 --> 01:31:24.120
resulted from that i would like to know how many of these people have ever thought about

01:31:24.120 --> 01:31:29.080
the use of these silly devices to make people decide to go to the hospital is actually also

01:31:29.080 --> 01:31:35.640
part of the problem i wonder if if having these kinds of protocols in place could have fooled

01:31:35.640 --> 01:31:40.040
people into believing that there was a novel symptomology present every once in a while

01:31:40.040 --> 01:31:44.360
and that he could explain that to them so that they wouldn't just need to hear over and over

01:31:44.360 --> 01:31:52.280
again stories about viral isolation experiments being dumb because all the discussion of viral

01:31:52.280 --> 01:31:56.760
isolation experiments being dumb still doesn't explain the bomb that went off in new york city

01:31:56.760 --> 01:32:02.280
that was used to convince these people and er not these people but people in in australia and

01:32:02.360 --> 01:32:08.920
new zealand that their lockdown worked the bomb going off in new york city and then going back

01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:17.960
to baseline was used to explain to america that the lockdown worked and so we better get on with

01:32:17.960 --> 01:32:24.440
explaining the lies that actually underlie this thing rather than just focusing over and over again

01:32:24.440 --> 01:32:32.840
on isolation and how virology is an illusion because it is yes it is an exaggeration for sure

01:32:32.840 --> 01:32:40.520
and a lot of them might even be lies but molecular biology is not a lie pcr and sequencing reactions

01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:46.360
when done correctly are not lies they're very high precision molecular tools that when used

01:32:46.360 --> 01:32:52.600
correctly give us great insight into what's present at in in preparations that we cannot

01:32:52.680 --> 01:33:06.520
otherwise measure but to say so little about how that technology could enable them to distort

01:33:07.240 --> 01:33:13.000
already pre-existing signals into something that they are not but instead just say over and over

01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:20.920
again something dumb simple like there are no viruses it's really it's really it's annoying

01:33:20.920 --> 01:33:27.560
to me because it's not he's not teaching my children the truth he's giving them a dumb simple

01:33:28.360 --> 01:33:31.080
explanation that will be dismissed by most people

01:33:34.360 --> 01:33:39.400
that would be a good way to do it i just got a message saying that jessica hockett just recorded

01:33:39.400 --> 01:33:46.760
a video with wolf gang wodock and vivian from um the coronavirus investigative committee in

01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:53.240
germany which is very exciting i look forward to that video so i saying this because unfortunately

01:33:53.240 --> 01:33:58.120
especially in the people who one would hope no better and think more deeply about this

01:33:58.120 --> 01:34:03.880
they still buy the hydroxychloroquine ivermectin story this is a boondoggle for the pharmaceutical

01:34:03.880 --> 01:34:10.680
industry especially in veterinary medicine and it is the only wonder draw wonderful part about

01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:15.800
it is the wonder that anybody fell for this story we will at some point and hopefully i'll

01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:21.320
have some other input on this get into even the question of does ivermectin even work for

01:34:21.320 --> 01:34:25.880
so-called parasitic diseases whether they're even our parasitic diseases because all the

01:34:25.880 --> 01:34:31.640
evidence points to that is not how it works and i even heard an anecdotal story of a description

01:34:31.640 --> 01:34:37.320
of a of a study which i haven't seen so it's maybe unfair of me to mention this but it's a bit like

01:34:37.320 --> 01:34:42.520
the maggots did the maggots kill the dog but they've interestingly take maggots are now used even

01:34:42.520 --> 01:34:47.320
in conventional medicine to clean up wounds because maggots seem to have a good ability to

01:34:47.320 --> 01:34:53.240
distinguish between dead and dying tissue and healthy tissue and they only eat the dead and dying

01:34:53.240 --> 01:34:58.680
tissue leave the healthy tissue alone and that prevents quote infection because the other way to

01:34:58.680 --> 01:35:03.720
do it is to have microorganisms like yeast and bacteria and parasites eat the dead and dying

01:35:03.720 --> 01:35:07.800
tissue so if you get the maggots to do it then those other things have no food and you get a very

01:35:07.800 --> 01:35:14.280
clean wound and so they did a uh investigation of who was better able to effectively debreed

01:35:14.280 --> 01:35:18.600
a wound that means to take away the dead part and leave only the healthy living tissue

01:35:18.600 --> 01:35:24.200
surgeons or maggots and i think it should be no surprise that the maggots won hands down even

01:35:24.200 --> 01:35:30.920
with surgeons using microscopes um okay i was going to show you something about interesting

01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:35.400
interesting i'm what they say about ivermectin on wikipedia they talk about how it works using

01:35:35.400 --> 01:35:40.760
glutamine gated chlorine channels and that's how it uh increases the flow of chloride items and

01:35:40.760 --> 01:35:45.800
hyperpolarizes the cell membrane paralyzed and killing the invertebrate uh it's safe for mammals

01:35:45.800 --> 01:35:51.000
at normal therapeutic doses used to cure parasite infections because mammalian glutamate gated

01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:55.960
chlorine channels only occur in the brain and spinal cord the causative causative ivermectin's

01:35:55.960 --> 01:36:01.160
usually do not cross the blood brain barrier and are unlikely to bind to other mammalian ligand

01:36:01.240 --> 01:36:06.680
bind ligand gated channels so the problem with this of course is there are no channels in the

01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:12.200
cell membranes or in nerves or in muscle cells and there is no blood brain barrier the nerves

01:36:12.200 --> 01:36:18.280
don't work because of hyperpolarization and the flow of chloride ions so this whole thing is

01:36:18.280 --> 01:36:26.520
simply just a story that has no holy shit okay so there there is again where i just i can't take

01:36:26.520 --> 01:36:33.320
it i cannot take it because unfortunately ladies and gentlemen i'm a patch clamp physiologist

01:36:34.200 --> 01:36:44.440
i descend from the the the i've actually had dinner with and a long conversation with burt

01:36:44.440 --> 01:36:52.280
sacman the guy who got the nobel prize for investigating in and inventing uh the patch clamp

01:36:53.000 --> 01:37:00.360
measurement and technique so that you could measure the voltage across a a plasma membrane

01:37:01.320 --> 01:37:11.240
and if there's anything more beautiful than the electrochemical properties of a a lipid bilayer

01:37:11.240 --> 01:37:18.440
and how amazing it is at that size scale that so much energy can be usefully harnessed

01:37:19.160 --> 01:37:25.800
and how much we actually understand about it using real measurements back when old school

01:37:26.360 --> 01:37:34.440
biology was old school biology he's discounting some of the most beautiful experiments that have

01:37:34.440 --> 01:37:42.200
ever been done in biology including the squid axon experiments and what we understand about

01:37:42.280 --> 01:37:50.360
myelination by saying that there is no blood brain barrier there is no ion channels that is

01:37:50.360 --> 01:37:59.080
incredible that is absolutely incredible because the details of the biology that we understand

01:37:59.080 --> 01:38:06.200
about ion channels and ligand gated ion channels is extraordinary i've measured in real time

01:38:06.360 --> 01:38:15.960
flickering calcium activated potassium channels and then exposed them to calcium and seen the

01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:21.400
amount of conductance from the inside into the outside of a cell sorry from the outside of the

01:38:21.400 --> 01:38:30.360
inside of a cell increase 10 000 fold and then when i turned my own little knob to stop the

01:38:30.760 --> 01:38:35.160
the flow of calcium i saw it go back down to flickering picohamps

01:38:37.880 --> 01:38:45.080
the only thing we did was transfect HEK cells with the DNA that encoded a small conductance

01:38:45.080 --> 01:38:51.400
potassium channel and expressed thousands of the same channel then we took that membrane

01:38:51.400 --> 01:38:58.920
and we ripped it in half and had it across a very small glass opening so that nothing could flow

01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:05.960
and we could measure that nothing was flowing and when we exposed that outside to calcium

01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:12.600
those channels opened and there was electrical current carried by potassium flowing until we

01:39:12.600 --> 01:39:19.160
removed the potassium and we could do it over and over and over again and these experiments have

01:39:19.160 --> 01:39:26.040
been done over and over again with increasingly higher fidelity as we progress through the science

01:39:26.040 --> 01:39:31.240
of biophysics and the science of of of these membranes

01:39:33.480 --> 01:39:37.640
and so unlike virology which started out in the 40s

01:39:39.800 --> 01:39:45.880
progressed to the 80s and then pretty much uses the exact same techniques they used in the 80s now

01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:50.360
which is what he just explained a minute ago is bullshit that we're still using

01:39:50.440 --> 01:39:54.040
psychopathic effects to indicate the presence of a virus is bullshit

01:39:56.520 --> 01:40:01.720
and so he's totally on top of it until suddenly he decides to throw out everything we know about

01:40:01.720 --> 01:40:09.960
membrane physiology everything we know about protein subunit assembly we have actually

01:40:09.960 --> 01:40:15.640
crystallized some proteins and we have actually accurately measured the function of some proteins

01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:22.680
we have and to discount all of that science because some people have been lying about virology

01:40:22.680 --> 01:40:36.440
for 40 years is the worst choice ever and again is he giving my kids anything or your kids anything

01:40:36.440 --> 01:40:40.520
if he tells you that there's no blood brain barrier there are no ion channels there's no

01:40:40.600 --> 01:40:46.600
ion flow how do we get to the point where we understand ourselves as Tesla wanted us to

01:40:46.600 --> 01:40:52.200
understand ourselves as frequency and harmony if there aren't electrical signals that are flowing

01:40:52.200 --> 01:40:55.720
in our neurons the hell is he talking about

01:41:00.760 --> 01:41:07.320
what does he think the electricity of our body is if it is not the ionic conductances in the

01:41:07.320 --> 01:41:13.800
electromagnetic forces that are created by the beauty of a lipid bilayer

01:41:16.600 --> 01:41:21.560
what a crazy statement to make to somebody who has been a biophysicist for 25 years

01:41:21.560 --> 01:41:27.000
wow he didn't make it to me but for me to hear that this is right in my wheelhouse i could talk

01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:32.520
about this for four hours i could use only the data that i myself have made i could use the papers

01:41:32.520 --> 01:41:38.520
that i've published to show you that ion channels work like that should we do it right now let's

01:41:38.520 --> 01:41:43.800
just do that right now let's just stop right here let's go over here and i'm going to do it in real

01:41:43.800 --> 01:41:48.440
time so you can see i'm not full of shit here we go let's go pub mad where the hell are you

01:41:50.360 --> 01:41:51.960
let's go kui

01:41:54.520 --> 01:42:02.360
jj and one one hyphen will work enter there's my papers look at them all just you don't have to

01:42:02.360 --> 01:42:09.080
worry because i'm the only jj kui in the list it's only one long list of papers that includes what

01:42:09.080 --> 01:42:15.000
it what is it 19 results so i'm not a not some kind of big scientist you can see my whole track

01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:20.440
records right there starting in 2002 where i had two papers with a guy who i really wish i could

01:42:20.440 --> 01:42:27.480
see again collard huwamad um collard huwamad was a guy who took me in when i did not have a job i

01:42:27.560 --> 01:42:35.320
just lost my my bartending position um because of being arrogant um and that was my only job i

01:42:35.320 --> 01:42:42.360
had just quit teaching and i was kind of spiraling and uh he hired me um taught me to patch clamp

01:42:43.160 --> 01:42:48.760
it was actually in the next door lab that um at the university of chicago that i met hybrid

01:42:48.760 --> 01:42:54.440
mansfelder and when hybrid mansfelder was done with his postdoc he went back to the netherlands

01:42:54.440 --> 01:43:00.040
where he started as a ten-year track professor and he came back to the university of chicago and

01:43:00.040 --> 01:43:06.280
gave a talk to say goodbye and uh i said yeah it's really cool i'm glad you i'm sorry you're leaving

01:43:06.280 --> 01:43:11.000
or whatever um and he said why don't you come to the netherlands it'd be my first phd student i was

01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:17.880
like huh what don't tease me man this was in 2001 i said don't tease me man i will i will leave in a

01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:22.840
month and he said i'm not teasing you let's fly you out there next month and you can do an interview

01:43:22.840 --> 01:43:29.960
and then you can decide and so i did that in october i i flew for an interview in november

01:43:29.960 --> 01:43:37.080
17th 2002 i moved to the netherlands to do my phd with hybrid mansfelder who i again i met at

01:43:37.080 --> 01:43:43.800
the university of chicago has a research technician working for collard hohamad and uh with yinjin

01:43:44.680 --> 01:43:51.800
and uh and and john drexler who's also still a long lost friend of mine who i uh i miss a lot

01:43:52.440 --> 01:43:57.960
um this is where i really realized what biology was all about and how people get in it together

01:43:57.960 --> 01:44:04.600
and work hard together um and and put their ideas on the line together and this was a really great

01:44:04.600 --> 01:44:11.560
team um yinjin who was an extremely skilled experimentalist who helped me to understand

01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:17.400
how to use the equipment and and how to do it well and also showed me what eight hours a day looks

01:44:17.400 --> 01:44:22.120
like when you're a scientist it's actually 10 or 12 and how focused you have to be when the

01:44:22.120 --> 01:44:26.920
experiments are working you just got to stay um and so i learned a lot from working with yinjin

01:44:27.880 --> 01:44:32.520
i also worked learned a lot from working with john because he was our molecular biologist he did

01:44:32.520 --> 01:44:39.320
all the transfections was doing all of the the cell culture and so the the experimental

01:44:39.320 --> 01:44:45.480
preparation that i was working on was essentially curated by uh collard and by john and so i did

01:44:45.480 --> 01:44:52.840
the recordings and and yinjin did the recordings um and so in this paper uh let's let's do this one

01:44:54.040 --> 01:45:00.520
um this is the first paper that i published where's the other one there's there's a giant patch

01:45:00.520 --> 01:45:07.480
paper two where's oh next what no where's the giant patch paper

01:45:12.440 --> 01:45:17.880
oh there it is way up here uh that's 2002 oh it's not an order i see sorry i thought

01:45:17.880 --> 01:45:22.920
that was as an order so i went down to the bottom display options should be not summary

01:45:23.880 --> 01:45:31.560
best batch no it should be publication date there we go so the most recent one came out that's nice

01:45:32.120 --> 01:45:38.840
i'm really impressed that they actually did this my old boss is is brian hooks there that's the guy

01:45:38.840 --> 01:45:44.920
at the university of pittsburgh who um asked me to not come in anymore um and he was actually

01:45:44.920 --> 01:45:52.360
wearing three masks when fauci told us to wear two um and uh kaffrin rough um this is a really

01:45:52.360 --> 01:45:57.400
great scientist at the university of pittsburgh got a really neat idea about how neurons could be

01:45:57.400 --> 01:46:02.760
neurovascularly coupled and how um interneurons might regulate regulate that coupling

01:46:03.560 --> 01:46:08.120
and so i did some experiments with her on some of her knockout mice before i left there and some

01:46:08.120 --> 01:46:13.240
of her uh some of the experimental preparation to try and show that this was indeed the case

01:46:13.240 --> 01:46:18.600
they were really fun experiments to do she was really a fun person to work with and so i suspect

01:46:18.680 --> 01:46:23.000
actually it was her that had the integrity to include me on this paper because i think if it

01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:30.840
was his choice he would not include me because they published um my data they mac hooks but i

01:46:30.840 --> 01:46:39.400
show you brian if i go here and then uh and then it loads and then i go on brian hooks um what you

01:46:39.400 --> 01:46:46.840
will see is that they published um my my data right here and i'm not even on it so this bio archive

01:46:46.920 --> 01:46:53.320
pre-print right here is almost all my data um or maybe it's not that one which one is it's this

01:46:53.320 --> 01:46:59.400
one sorry this one so sandra is somebody who did a lot of my mouse work um and she was a technician

01:46:59.400 --> 01:47:06.760
in our lab um and then this uh roman he's a guy who came after i was in the lab um i never really

01:47:06.760 --> 01:47:13.400
got along with him um at some point i just was fed up uh and uh gotten a shouting match with him

01:47:14.280 --> 01:47:20.120
during the pandemic um but this is the guy who supposedly finished the rest of the recordings

01:47:20.120 --> 01:47:24.920
but if you look at this paper um almost all the data in it is mine and i'm only in the

01:47:24.920 --> 01:47:31.720
acknowledgments as doing the experiments that's pretty that's pretty shitty um that's extraordinarily

01:47:31.720 --> 01:47:38.840
shitty from the perspective of brian hooks who i consider to be really uh one of the worst people

01:47:38.920 --> 01:47:43.560
that i know in pittsburgh if i saw him on the street i think he would actually turn around and

01:47:43.560 --> 01:47:49.000
walk fast the other way that's how little class or integrity he actually has and interestingly

01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:57.480
enough he were he was in the united states navy um for 20 years as a submarine uh first lieutenant

01:47:57.480 --> 01:48:05.320
and became captain after he kind of retired um married a chinese woman um while a postdoc and

01:48:05.320 --> 01:48:12.280
she took a job um with mckenzie um at the start of the pandemic which is kind of interesting after

01:48:12.280 --> 01:48:20.280
her postdoc at the university of pittsburgh kind of failed and so we have a 20 year navy guy that

01:48:20.280 --> 01:48:25.640
i was working for at the university of pittsburgh with a wife who took a job at the at mckenzie

01:48:26.280 --> 01:48:31.560
complaining to i guess the head of the department that i shouldn't be there anymore and then ending

01:48:31.560 --> 01:48:36.600
my neuroscience career not only that but then not publishing the data that got him

01:48:36.600 --> 01:48:43.080
his own god dang arrow one is all my data the reason why he has funding in his lab is because

01:48:43.080 --> 01:48:47.560
of my data then when he published the paper he didn't even include my name on it thank goodness

01:48:47.560 --> 01:48:55.240
somebody like kathryn ruff and somebody like like where is sarah ross the other p.i from pitt

01:48:55.240 --> 01:49:00.840
probably had the integrity to include me on the paper even though you look at this paper and my

01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:05.240
experiments are probably only one figure whereas in this paper they might be five

01:49:09.720 --> 01:49:13.400
what's jessica ross's story that sounds like this one

01:49:20.280 --> 01:49:23.160
what's matt crawford's story that sounds like this one

01:49:26.280 --> 01:49:30.680
what's robert melone's story that sounds like this one oh wait no robert melone was working

01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:37.400
on domain program in 2020 not losing his job a 20 year career in something completely different

01:49:37.400 --> 01:49:42.360
for speaking out about the biology that every one of these frickin people including all these

01:49:42.360 --> 01:49:46.280
authors should have known because we all use transfection every day

01:49:50.280 --> 01:49:55.960
and all of these people are sophisticated enough to know that the bullshit that that guy just said

01:49:55.960 --> 01:50:01.080
about there being no ion channels and no brain blood brain barrier and all this

01:50:02.360 --> 01:50:07.080
they're sophisticated enough to know that's bullshit but they're not sophisticated enough to

01:50:07.080 --> 01:50:12.920
know that transfection called an investigational vaccine is bullshit they're not sophisticated enough

01:50:12.920 --> 01:50:18.760
to know that r&a can't pandemic well that's outside of my expertise

01:50:19.240 --> 01:50:28.120
but tom kauen gives them a real easy ball on a tee to say well obviously this guy doesn't know what he's talking about

01:50:28.120 --> 01:50:36.920
clink and so what goes out of the park with that it goes out of the park is the the objection to basic virology

01:50:39.720 --> 01:50:46.360
do you see how malevolent that could be if this is done on purpose rather than just unwittingly

01:50:46.360 --> 01:50:51.640
awkward and and and clumsy naively clumsy

01:50:56.120 --> 01:51:01.640
i've actually touched these experiments ladies and gentlemen did i just delete that close that

01:51:01.640 --> 01:51:06.440
window to get this back darn it i didn't actually show you the paper so let's go back to that again

01:51:07.240 --> 01:51:11.240
i need history and this one is that one

01:51:14.520 --> 01:51:17.960
come on here we go i'm going to put it back over here sorry about that

01:51:19.160 --> 01:51:24.440
this is my story as told on pub mad we put publication date we go down to the bottom

01:51:25.400 --> 01:51:28.680
and the second to the last paper is this giant patch recordings

01:51:28.680 --> 01:51:32.280
i'm very proud of this paper because it took a lot of my own

01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:38.840
dog on it okay i got to do this over here so you can't see my passwords

01:51:38.840 --> 01:51:43.720
uh okay confirm your institution seriously

01:51:51.160 --> 01:51:56.520
and then my phone is going to beep if there's anything that i hate more than

01:51:57.480 --> 01:52:03.640
then six factor identification and passwords i can't really know what else it would be

01:52:05.240 --> 01:52:05.800
there we go

01:52:08.280 --> 01:52:11.560
okay so here we go bringing this back over we're going to view the pdf

01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:17.240
Devin Ryan is a student that we had in the lab john Glover is a student we had in the lab

01:52:17.240 --> 01:52:21.640
i taught them both the patch clamp Devin Ryan went and did his PhD in Germany somewhere and

01:52:21.720 --> 01:52:27.080
contacted me when i was still in Holland um Joseph Young is interestingly enough a

01:52:27.640 --> 01:52:35.400
PhD uh physicist who actually worked with us um for some of our analysis and actually

01:52:35.960 --> 01:52:40.920
Joseph Young is so cool because you know what he worked on he had this apparatus that would

01:52:40.920 --> 01:52:48.840
compress water into such a small container that it would glow like uh the what what seems to happen

01:52:48.920 --> 01:52:53.960
with these shrimp when they can move their claws so fast that they create like a spark of light

01:52:53.960 --> 01:52:58.840
in the in the i don't know if it's their claws or their tail they create a spark of light in salt

01:52:58.840 --> 01:53:03.960
water he was actually working on how you compress light with a laser or some other shit i'd have

01:53:03.960 --> 01:53:09.480
to send him an email again um to create that light and how that light is generated which i think

01:53:09.480 --> 01:53:15.400
is still a very interesting phenomenon that could have some a ram big ramifications for our

01:53:15.400 --> 01:53:21.240
understanding of of the world that we don't yet get how that works um anyway Joseph Young

01:53:21.240 --> 01:53:26.040
another really cool person that i met at the University of Chicago so here's this paper and

01:53:26.040 --> 01:53:30.200
what we're doing is we're taking glass electrodes that are already very small and we're going to

01:53:30.200 --> 01:53:36.440
make them much larger and that i use this apparatus underneath the microscope which is detailed here

01:53:36.440 --> 01:53:43.800
so that i can perfuse across this end and then what i did was and this was all pretty much relearned

01:53:43.800 --> 01:53:47.720
by looking at other people's papers and then trying to replicate what they described

01:53:47.720 --> 01:53:53.000
i created these pipettes under a microscope with my own hands and with own manipulators

01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:57.720
and and heat so a wire that was very close to it that could heat it and then i could break it

01:53:57.720 --> 01:54:03.240
and shape it and then polish it and then i would take individual human embryonic kidney cells

01:54:03.240 --> 01:54:09.240
which were expressing only one kind of potassium channel because that's what they were transfected

01:54:09.560 --> 01:54:14.760
by john drexler and i would use suction so that's what was also cool

01:54:16.760 --> 01:54:19.400
the one little contribution that i did in my

01:54:23.160 --> 01:54:30.280
in my career and one little thing that i'm very proud of which actually has no it's not very special

01:54:30.280 --> 01:54:36.120
but it really helped me a lot um part of what i learned at the University of Chicago with regard

01:54:36.120 --> 01:54:41.320
to patch clamp is that the creation of the seal and that's where giga ohm biological comes from

01:54:41.320 --> 01:54:47.000
giga ohm is the measurement of the the resistance of the seal that gets created

01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:56.200
when you suck a lipid bilayer onto the end of a glass pipette and it extrudes all the water so

01:54:56.200 --> 01:55:01.000
let me just draw a little picture here for you so that we i can give you an idea of what we think

01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:06.760
is happening here what we think is happening here this is sidebar is that the electrode

01:55:07.320 --> 01:55:12.360
and the cell membrane if we were to look right here where they come together if we were to look

01:55:12.360 --> 01:55:20.040
right there and and magnify it a little bit what we actually see is the pipette and then we see

01:55:20.040 --> 01:55:27.480
the lipid bilayer and what's imagined we don't know if this happens but this is what of what

01:55:27.480 --> 01:55:34.040
physicists have hypothesized is happening is that when a giga ohm seal happens

01:55:34.040 --> 01:55:41.320
it is because of the positive charge of the lipid nanoparticle a lipid lipid bilayer

01:55:41.880 --> 01:55:47.720
and the borosilicate glass so we use borosilicate glass because when you put it in water it actually

01:55:47.720 --> 01:55:55.160
becomes charged and so what this creates is a charge bias here and water can actually get

01:55:55.240 --> 01:56:02.360
excluded it's like pushed out and once all the water is gone that means there's no space in here

01:56:02.360 --> 01:56:08.280
and that means that no current can flow so no matter how much what we have is then a cell

01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:16.520
and it's in a bath and down here in the bath is one wire right this is like one positive wire and

01:56:16.520 --> 01:56:21.880
then we have another wire that's inside of the glass pipette which glass doesn't conduct electricity

01:56:21.960 --> 01:56:28.840
and so no matter what voltage i put across this this lipid bilayer nothing flows there's no current

01:56:28.840 --> 01:56:36.440
and so if i look at look at this paper what you see here at the top um oh i don't i can't point

01:56:36.440 --> 01:56:43.960
with my pen when i'm on this screen um what you see here at the top is a when there's no calcium

01:56:43.960 --> 01:56:51.000
present essentially when i try to push stuff through i get nothing to go through and the scale

01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:57.800
here is two nano amps i think it might even be 10 nano amps which has a gigantic amount of current

01:56:57.800 --> 01:57:05.560
that's like uh i think that's let's see if it's nano amps yeah one nano amp so that's very big

01:57:06.920 --> 01:57:11.880
typically speaking when we talk about a single ion channel we talk about picot amps and so then

01:57:11.960 --> 01:57:17.320
we go up to nano amps so this is a thousand times it's tens of thousands of channels here

01:57:17.320 --> 01:57:22.120
essentially because it might be three or four picot amps that are are going through an individual

01:57:22.120 --> 01:57:30.120
channel and when i expose the the patch to calcium at different voltages we see all kinds of different

01:57:30.120 --> 01:57:37.240
conductances that we can predict mathematically depending on the concentration of potassium

01:57:37.240 --> 01:57:44.760
outside and inside the pipette because we are in complete control of that we control the calcium

01:57:44.760 --> 01:57:50.840
of the potassium that's in the cell we already know and we already know what we put in here

01:57:50.840 --> 01:57:55.720
because i filled the pipette and so i control the potassium here and i control the potassium here

01:57:55.720 --> 01:58:03.080
and mathematically this these curves and this conductance describes the biophysics of the

01:58:03.160 --> 01:58:10.600
potassium channel as it opens in response to calcium as the conductance occurs and then wanes

01:58:10.600 --> 01:58:17.480
as the proteins slowly close because of the nature of how they work they don't stay open but they flicker

01:58:18.120 --> 01:58:22.600
and the flickering is greatest at the beginning and then the flickering goes away so if you could

01:58:22.600 --> 01:58:28.280
see the individual channels here it would be much like a pixelated staircase it's not a smooth curve

01:58:28.280 --> 01:58:34.040
it only becomes a smooth curve because collid and john have found a way to express only one type

01:58:34.040 --> 01:58:40.200
of channel in this cell so that we can start the biophysics of this one channel of which hundreds

01:58:40.200 --> 01:58:47.400
of thousands perhaps different types of channels are expressed in any neuron and so it's very unfortunate

01:58:47.400 --> 01:58:53.560
that he would make such a statement because it's really completely and totally untrue and the worst

01:58:53.560 --> 01:58:58.920
part is is that it becomes this thing that any academic biologist who might have been tempted

01:58:59.560 --> 01:59:03.960
by the first part of this discussion where it's like oh really they don't and they don't

01:59:03.960 --> 01:59:10.120
isolate as much as i thought oh that's cool they actually are completely discounting that

01:59:10.120 --> 01:59:13.640
thank you very much completely discounting that argument now

01:59:14.440 --> 01:59:18.680
because he says the ridiculous thing is that there are let's just listen to it again to make

01:59:18.680 --> 01:59:25.240
sure i get the whole list right a side panel panels so the problem with this of course is there

01:59:25.240 --> 01:59:30.280
are no channels in the cell membranes or in nerves or in muscle cells and there is no blood brain

01:59:30.280 --> 01:59:36.600
barrier the nerves don't work because of hyperpolar polarization and the flow of chloride ions

01:59:36.600 --> 01:59:42.040
so this whole thing is simply just a story that has see what's crazy about this is we know that

01:59:42.040 --> 01:59:49.720
nicotine is especially poisonous to to insects because they use acetylcholine gated channels as

01:59:49.720 --> 01:59:57.080
their primary channel suite in their in their nervous system we have nicotinic channels but we

01:59:57.080 --> 02:00:03.560
don't rely primarily on them to conduct nerve impulses therefore nicotine has other effects

02:00:03.720 --> 02:00:12.680
and so it wouldn't be ridiculous for a chloride channel based agonist or antagonist to have an

02:00:12.680 --> 02:00:18.760
effect on parasites which use chloride channels in ways that we don't and for him to discount this

02:00:18.760 --> 02:00:23.320
possibility by simply saying that there are no ion channels there are no neurons there are

02:00:23.400 --> 02:00:30.040
no electricity there's no ion flow actually discards this and it discards this

02:00:33.400 --> 02:00:40.520
and i'm sorry ladies and gentlemen but i did these experiments with my bare hands okay i might

02:00:40.520 --> 02:00:45.160
be mistaken about what happened but i would sure like an explanation for what i did for these three

02:00:45.160 --> 02:00:51.640
years what i was doing and why it was that until i figured out how to make the pipette shape correct

02:00:51.720 --> 02:00:56.280
until i figured out how to coat it with the right wax and until i figured out how to

02:00:56.280 --> 02:01:02.360
use a device which i was going to show you a minute ago to to find control the air pressure

02:01:02.360 --> 02:01:09.880
so that i could make that giga ohm seal without damaging the cell look at these traces

02:01:11.320 --> 02:01:15.480
this is multiple nano amps now i'm sure about this one because i remember this was a really

02:01:15.560 --> 02:01:23.080
big one um scale bars five nano amps we're talking about tens of thousands of the exact

02:01:23.080 --> 02:01:28.520
same kind of channel here and giving us a measurement with no you can't even see the

02:01:28.520 --> 02:01:34.520
error bars because they're so perfect this is real the air bars are just lost in tiny inside

02:01:34.520 --> 02:01:39.800
of those little tiny signals this is some of the most high fidelity biophysical measurements that

02:01:39.800 --> 02:01:46.440
have ever been made on earth bar none and that's me tooting my own horn before i even had my phd

02:01:46.440 --> 02:01:51.720
this was when i was a technician i had just gotten kicked out of a bartending gig and one year later

02:01:51.720 --> 02:01:59.240
i was doing this thanks to colin huwamad and yinjin chao and john drexler and none of this is bullshit

02:01:59.240 --> 02:02:06.120
all of this is real biophysics and so to say that there are no ion channels is really ridiculous

02:02:06.120 --> 02:02:12.200
and it undermines his very real position that there might not be high fidelity coronavirus is

02:02:12.200 --> 02:02:17.800
like they told us don't you see how magically malevolent it could be if he knows he's doing this

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and if he doesn't know he's doing it we better get him to correct it quick snow value

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okay it's enough about ivermectin again for anybody who really wants to see the references

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and get more in detail in this please watch sam and marx video i think it's dr sambailey.com

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this week on ivermectin so let's get to some of the questions

02:02:39.240 --> 02:02:45.400
what have you seen work for poison ivy elimination treatment comfort it's the um

02:02:47.080 --> 02:02:53.640
the thing is really quite simple right what we used to control the air when we patch clamp was

02:02:53.640 --> 02:02:59.960
a syringe or even actually if you go to universities now the reality is is that most people will

02:02:59.960 --> 02:03:05.720
still be using their mouth so they use their mouth and they used to suck on a on a hose or

02:03:05.720 --> 02:03:13.000
blow on a hose to create and let me just explain it when you do the experiment that i just oh i'll

02:03:13.000 --> 02:03:19.960
do it like this because i have the the picture is there at least i hope it's still there yeah so

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um when you do this experiment um what you do is you you use air pressure

02:03:26.840 --> 02:03:31.720
to control the cell so this cell has been dissociated it's not stuck to the glass here it's

02:03:31.720 --> 02:03:37.640
actually rolling around and so by controlling the flow the air pressure inside of this pipette

02:03:37.640 --> 02:03:42.600
which is filled with water but if you put pressure on it it will blow out and if you suck on it it

02:03:42.600 --> 02:03:48.760
will start to suck in from the bath and because this is microscopic it's not like the pipette's

02:03:48.760 --> 02:03:53.560
gonna fill up with water anytime soon or it's not like the pipette will exit and empty with water

02:03:53.640 --> 02:03:58.680
pretty soon but the problem was is that all these patch clamp physiologists when i was getting

02:03:58.680 --> 02:04:04.600
taught none of them absolutely none of them and i shit you not none of them were doing anything

02:04:04.600 --> 02:04:09.480
but they're god dang mouths they had a hose and it was connected to the back of the manipulator

02:04:09.480 --> 02:04:13.320
that was holding the pipette and then they had the hose and they would blow into it and then they

02:04:13.320 --> 02:04:17.400
would could they would turn a valve and then whatever pressure was in there was what they were

02:04:17.400 --> 02:04:22.360
using to blow then they would approach the cell and they would open that valve and then it would

02:04:22.360 --> 02:04:29.240
start to suck and the cell would roll in or the membrane would get get would touch the glass

02:04:29.880 --> 02:04:35.880
but what i learned from doing this giant patch experiment was was that the differential between

02:04:35.880 --> 02:04:42.680
the pull and push of that positive pressure really dictated whether you would get a very good seal

02:04:42.680 --> 02:04:46.760
or whether the seal would be kind of shitty now the other thing that's really interesting that

02:04:46.760 --> 02:04:52.040
you'll probably like uh is a little note to understand is that when you're making a recording

02:04:52.040 --> 02:04:57.080
from a neuron like i used to do all the time there was a real art to it in the sense of you

02:04:57.080 --> 02:05:03.640
would get next to the neuron and you would have this position right here now this position is

02:05:03.640 --> 02:05:09.880
not wholesale yet you have to break this membrane here so that this and this are the same and that

02:05:09.880 --> 02:05:14.600
your electrode that's in your glass pipette is actually inside the neuron that's what's so cool

02:05:14.680 --> 02:05:21.080
about patch clamp physiology now in breaking this membrane it actually becomes very important

02:05:21.080 --> 02:05:27.560
whether the membrane looks like that or whether the membrane looks like this where this isn't

02:05:27.560 --> 02:05:35.640
there so i guess i should just draw it again down here and what i realized very early on in my work

02:05:35.640 --> 02:05:41.720
with with collard is that the control of the air pressure by your mouth often resulted in

02:05:42.200 --> 02:05:46.920
like this which meant that when you tried to break this open so that you were making a recording

02:05:46.920 --> 02:05:52.280
here a lot of this shit would actually be in the way and more importantly it would get in the way

02:05:52.280 --> 02:05:57.160
during the experiment and your your fidelity of recording would go up and down because there

02:05:57.160 --> 02:06:03.640
was stuff in the tip of your pipette so after a couple years of working with collard i had gone

02:06:03.720 --> 02:06:13.480
through from from syringe to machining myself this thing that i could hook up to the air hose

02:06:13.480 --> 02:06:20.120
and when i turned this of course it's moving out so it's a very subtle control of the airflow and

02:06:20.120 --> 02:06:25.080
then i added this valve on the top so that when i opened it when i pushed this button i could go

02:06:25.080 --> 02:06:32.600
to neutral and so neutral suction like air pressure turns out to be the best way to form the gigaseal

02:06:32.600 --> 02:06:35.800
but most people couldn't get there because they were using their mouth so they were going

02:06:36.440 --> 02:06:41.080
sucking right away and they would get this bottom configuration here instead of something that looks

02:06:41.080 --> 02:06:46.680
very clean like this one and i i over time figured out how to do it right and everybody

02:06:46.680 --> 02:06:51.160
that's worked with me or learned from me has started to use a device to control their air pressure

02:06:51.160 --> 02:06:55.960
rather than their mouth because their mouth is just stupid but lots of people use their mouth

02:06:55.960 --> 02:06:59.720
because that's how they're taught and that's what happens in biology you do it how you're taught

02:07:00.440 --> 02:07:05.080
so again we're off on a tangent here but the tangent is a very good one because

02:07:05.080 --> 02:07:11.320
tom kawen brought us to this tangent i just can't believe that he said that i can't believe he said

02:07:11.320 --> 02:07:15.320
it so i'm going to say it one more time and then we're going to go on to this let's eat poison ivy

02:07:15.320 --> 02:07:20.200
so that we don't get poison ivy anymore hold up it's tough question let's just say i'm in principal value

02:07:21.000 --> 02:07:27.000
the source and are unlikely to bind to other mammalian ligand buying ligand gated channels

02:07:27.080 --> 02:07:31.720
so the problem with this of course is there are no channels in the cell membranes or in nerves or

02:07:31.720 --> 02:07:38.200
in muscle cells there is no blood brain barrier the nerves don't work because of hyperpolarization

02:07:38.200 --> 02:07:44.120
and the flow of chloride ions so this whole thing is simply just a story that has no value

02:07:45.960 --> 02:07:51.160
okay enough about ivermectin again for anybody who will control for the calcium channel is

02:07:51.320 --> 02:07:56.680
the calcium so i'll show you again just because i i want to risk i like the fact that you're asking

02:07:56.680 --> 02:08:04.200
about it so in in a here this is when no calcium is present there's no current right this is like

02:08:04.200 --> 02:08:09.560
the zero line it's just staying there so you can see me turn on the current but there's really

02:08:09.560 --> 02:08:13.720
nothing flowing it's just kind of leak and then you see when i turn off the current you see a

02:08:13.720 --> 02:08:18.520
little leak in the other way but when i have this is what i do this is what you don't see i

02:08:18.520 --> 02:08:24.440
shouldn't show you this so here's the cell i roll it in with air pressure it makes a giga ohm

02:08:24.440 --> 02:08:32.920
seal and then i used a second pipette with heavy suction and i went like this and i tore the cell

02:08:32.920 --> 02:08:40.040
off so what's left here is not an open membrane but it's that half of the cell so this is called

02:08:40.040 --> 02:08:45.880
an inside out patch or an outside out patch it's a very niche skill that not very many people ever

02:08:45.880 --> 02:08:49.480
bothered to try and learn how to do and college challenged me and i figured it out

02:08:50.760 --> 02:08:56.680
but what you're doing is you're making a seal on the on the cell like this and then you used a

02:08:56.680 --> 02:09:07.000
second pipette that's sucking and then you move it past very quickly and it removes this part of

02:09:07.000 --> 02:09:13.320
the cell and then what you're left with is this patch which has potassium channels in it

02:09:13.480 --> 02:09:21.880
and so in the control experiment there's no i put it in front then i take this i take sorry

02:09:21.880 --> 02:09:26.920
i take this pipette which i've now created by removing the outside of the cell i take this pipette

02:09:29.000 --> 02:09:36.280
and i put it in front of this gigantic tube so this is this pipette but now at a lower magnification

02:09:36.280 --> 02:09:42.840
and this tube is is connected to a bunch of of reservoirs that i control with a valve

02:09:43.400 --> 02:09:49.800
with with electronic solenoid valves and so i'm blowing whatever i want to blow

02:09:51.560 --> 02:09:56.280
i'm blowing with this huge pipette i'm blowing on this channel whatever i want to do it

02:09:57.080 --> 02:10:03.000
and so i can control the potassium i can control the sodium and i can control the calcium and

02:10:03.000 --> 02:10:07.080
whether calcium is present or not and over here i've got a lot of potassium

02:10:07.720 --> 02:10:15.000
over here i have almost no potassium and so if these are potassium channels and they open then

02:10:15.000 --> 02:10:21.080
the potassium will flow from the high concentration to the low there should be a huge flow of potassium

02:10:21.080 --> 02:10:26.440
when these channels are open and these channels according to their physiology only open when

02:10:26.520 --> 02:10:32.920
calcium is present so i would start by perfusing a no calcium solution

02:10:33.560 --> 02:10:40.920
with low potassium and you would see this which is no current and then when i would switch the valve

02:10:40.920 --> 02:10:48.520
and and chlori sorry calcium would be present then i would get this nano amp of potassium current

02:10:48.520 --> 02:10:53.160
and we could show it's potassium because you can block it with potassium channel blockers

02:10:53.160 --> 02:11:00.520
because we can change the potassium concentration and in real time and show that mathematically

02:11:00.520 --> 02:11:09.160
speaking the the driving force in the Nernst equation as calculated by the the the potassium

02:11:09.160 --> 02:11:14.680
concentrations that we ourselves have created on the inside and the outside of that patch correspond

02:11:14.680 --> 02:11:20.120
mathematically to the prediction of the Nernst equation that's very hard to dispute that these

02:11:20.200 --> 02:11:27.240
are doing what we say they're doing and it's not just me of course there's a couple generations

02:11:27.240 --> 02:11:32.840
of biophysicists that have been working on trying to get at the heart of how these channels work

02:11:32.840 --> 02:11:38.920
using any kind of this is a preparation that very few if any other people have ever used i don't know

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if you can find another paper where someone used recombinant sk channels in human embryonic kidney

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cells in giant patch recordings to show the bio membrane the sorry the biophysics of potassium

02:11:51.000 --> 02:11:56.600
channel this might be the only time anyone tried to test it at this fidelity when we did it

02:11:56.600 --> 02:12:01.400
the results were beautiful the people at the biophysics conference were like holy shit

02:12:01.400 --> 02:12:08.360
where did you find this technician and call it had to answer i got him with a with a classified

02:12:08.440 --> 02:12:15.160
ad because i really did apply or respond to a classified ad in the chicago tribune in order to

02:12:15.160 --> 02:12:26.440
meet this guy anyway let's go on wants to see the references and get more in detail in this

02:12:26.440 --> 02:12:31.880
please watch sam and marx video i think it's doctor sambailey.com this week on ivermectin

02:12:32.680 --> 02:12:38.200
so let's get to some of the questions what have you seen work for poison ivy elimination treatment

02:12:38.280 --> 02:12:44.840
comfort it's a tough question poison ivy is tough so it's we're told it's through the

02:12:45.560 --> 02:12:50.360
the contact on the skin of a chemical they're called urushial i'm not sure how to spell that

02:12:51.160 --> 02:12:57.880
and this chemical gets absorbed through the skin and then can go into your bloodstream we're told

02:12:57.880 --> 02:13:02.920
and then you have systemic poison ivy so there's definitely a difference the difference is if the

02:13:02.920 --> 02:13:07.880
original exposure and all the symptoms are contiguous with that exposure in other words

02:13:08.520 --> 02:13:13.000
not on one arm and then the other arm and the other arm didn't have exposure so if everything

02:13:13.000 --> 02:13:17.880
is on one arm that's still localized poison ivy and if it spreads to someplace that it's not

02:13:17.880 --> 02:13:22.200
contiguous with then it apparently must have got there through the blood or the lymph

02:13:22.200 --> 02:13:27.720
so that's called systemic poison ivy so the things that i have used and seen for that some

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of them i've used and some of them i've only heard of uh there there is a a a over-the-counter

02:13:34.200 --> 02:13:41.720
stuff called zinfel i think or something you'll you'll see it starts with a zin and it's a

02:13:41.720 --> 02:13:46.600
it's apparently a chemical that breaks down the urushial and so it's not a bad idea to if you know

02:13:46.600 --> 02:13:51.640
that you've been exposed to poison ivy and you tend to react strongly to it i mean this again

02:13:51.640 --> 02:13:57.000
anything that's coming out to your skin it's basically the plant world is serving as the vehicle to

02:13:57.560 --> 02:14:02.360
help you create an elimination reaction so the skin eruption and the itching and the

02:14:02.360 --> 02:14:07.720
the pus and the vesicles that is the body's way of getting this stuff out but you can also temper

02:14:07.720 --> 02:14:12.280
you can also break down the chemical by rubbing your body in the area that was exposed with this

02:14:12.280 --> 02:14:16.440
over-the-counter thing i'm sure you'll be able to find out what it was and that breaks down the

02:14:16.440 --> 02:14:22.440
urushial and then it stops uh your body will stop reacting so that's the first thing there's also

02:14:22.440 --> 02:14:26.840
some plants uh that people have used and i'm not an expert on this i think they're called

02:14:26.840 --> 02:14:32.120
julweed and maybe plantain and so you can chew those or make a paste and rub that over the

02:14:32.120 --> 02:14:36.520
area where you've been exposed and i believe you can even eat those although i would check on that

02:14:36.520 --> 02:14:42.840
and that apparently will stop the symptoms uh quickly in in many people so that's the second

02:14:42.840 --> 02:14:49.480
thing that i've seen and done uh the thing that i've heard that works is to actually take some of

02:14:49.560 --> 02:14:54.120
your own urine that you actually make an antidote and you can make a compress with that and put it

02:14:54.120 --> 02:14:58.680
on the affected skin and then you can drink it which contains the antidote to the poison ivy

02:14:58.680 --> 02:15:03.640
and that apparently will make the symptoms and even a systemic problem go away very quickly

02:15:03.640 --> 02:15:09.080
i've also seen good results sometimes not all the time by taking homeopathic cell salts i'm not

02:15:09.080 --> 02:15:15.640
sure which one to use for that but also to take just homeopathic roostox which can help make the

02:15:15.720 --> 02:15:21.320
symptoms go away quicker so those are the basic things that i've seen i've also seen people uh eat

02:15:21.320 --> 02:15:25.320
a little bit of poison ivy and apparently the native american people did that in the early part

02:15:25.320 --> 02:15:30.520
of the season before the heavy part of the poison ivy season or poison oak season and apparently by

02:15:30.520 --> 02:15:37.080
eating it then your body develops resistance somehow to poison ivy exposure i've never done

02:15:37.080 --> 02:15:42.280
that myself but i've heard that that works so if anybody else has any effective poison

02:15:42.280 --> 02:15:48.040
boy i think poison eating poison ivy sounds like a very very bad idea but uh you know

02:15:49.320 --> 02:15:53.480
go with what you go with ivy treatments i would like to hear them so you can send those in the

02:15:53.480 --> 02:15:58.760
comments okay uh tom in your fantastic book cancer and new biology of water you mentioned

02:15:58.760 --> 02:16:03.480
luis curve ran who among others showed that in living beings cosmic background radiation

02:16:03.480 --> 02:16:08.520
is sufficient to change elements into other elements it's loud um okay i don't know that he said

02:16:08.520 --> 02:16:14.120
that cosmic background radiation it's the radiation or the energy flow in living beings that changes

02:16:14.120 --> 02:16:18.200
elements into other elements so i'm not sure he said cosmic background radiation but i know what

02:16:18.200 --> 02:16:23.560
you mean your idea that a dome with antenna and pillars in water in a cell or in the tajma hall

02:16:23.560 --> 02:16:27.960
are the receiver of energy aligns with these findings are we here at the source of the secret

02:16:27.960 --> 02:16:34.600
of life i would only say that we're getting towards it what we're realizing is that the usual

02:16:34.600 --> 02:16:41.000
a biochemical reductionist materialistic model of everything but in particular life

02:16:41.000 --> 02:16:47.720
is severely lacking and that we are bio energetic electrical electromagnetic beings that have

02:16:47.720 --> 02:16:53.960
no ion channels that use ions and don't use electromagnetism at all apparently i don't

02:16:53.960 --> 02:16:59.480
know what he's talking about here i think this is clear obfuscation of the truth

02:17:00.440 --> 02:17:04.200
not for one second am i going to say that we understand everything about the brain but

02:17:04.200 --> 02:17:09.640
what little we understand we do understand that the symphony of electrical signals

02:17:09.640 --> 02:17:15.000
has at least partially conducted by proteins which can selectively gate

02:17:15.560 --> 02:17:21.480
ionic conductances and we've done these experiments enough to know it that that we know

02:17:22.200 --> 02:17:25.720
and that's what's the frustrating thing about the world that we're in right now

02:17:25.800 --> 02:17:30.360
we actually have been we're being led off of a cliff where we think we know nothing

02:17:31.240 --> 02:17:36.360
that the free will doesn't exist and that that everything you know is wrong into a certain

02:17:36.360 --> 02:17:42.360
extent it's true but all of our biological observations don't need to be thrown out all of

02:17:42.360 --> 02:17:51.240
our biologists aren't completely wrong they have formed their ideas sometimes in the maladaptive

02:17:51.320 --> 02:18:01.320
context or the bonsai the bonsai pot of reductionist science that has caused us to

02:18:01.320 --> 02:18:06.440
miss a lot of these big ideas caused us to lose sight of the sacred and the irreducible

02:18:06.440 --> 02:18:12.920
complexities that really are at the heart of our love of biology and our appreciation for it i

02:18:12.920 --> 02:18:20.360
totally agree but to say that we know nothing that some of the things that we know are useless

02:18:20.360 --> 02:18:23.400
when we know when that's certainly not the case

02:18:25.800 --> 02:18:31.320
is exactly the trick here there is no way impossible there's no way you're ever going to

02:18:31.320 --> 02:18:38.440
get me to believe that and accept that biophysics is on the same level of shaky ground that

02:18:38.440 --> 02:18:45.160
molecular virology is that is just ridiculous we could be wrong about a lot of things we could

02:18:45.160 --> 02:18:54.760
have oversimplified a lot of things but the forces and the sources of flow and charge

02:18:56.120 --> 02:19:01.240
and our basic understanding of the biophysics of the lipid bio the lipid

02:19:02.200 --> 02:19:09.240
bilayer is crucial ladies and gentlemen can you can you just follow along for a minute here

02:19:09.960 --> 02:19:16.200
can you just try to follow along for a minute impromptu lecture here lipid

02:19:16.840 --> 02:19:23.960
bilayer is an incredible thing that for whatever reason all life on earth that's any worth any

02:19:23.960 --> 02:19:32.600
complication at all is made up and what's so cool about the lipid bilayer is that that that ions

02:19:32.600 --> 02:19:38.360
can't go across it that stuff can't go across it but electromagnetism can't

02:19:40.120 --> 02:19:46.760
and so the concentration of potassium inside and outside matters and when it's different

02:19:46.760 --> 02:19:53.480
there is an electrochemical force that exists across this lipid bilayer because of its narrowness

02:19:54.360 --> 02:20:00.600
if the lipid bilayer was five times as thick the electromagnetic forces that it could contain

02:20:01.160 --> 02:20:06.760
and and the potential that could exist across it would be very much reduced because these

02:20:06.760 --> 02:20:11.960
little magnets couldn't and their little concentration gradients couldn't affect each other as well

02:20:13.800 --> 02:20:21.560
and so isn't it brilliant that life has come up with with with protein shapes that can create

02:20:22.440 --> 02:20:28.760
cat ionic binding sites and ionic binding sites inside of them that that

02:20:29.080 --> 02:20:38.680
give them the selectivity for a particular ionic species so that potassium a thousand times more

02:20:38.680 --> 02:20:44.520
than sodium for example will go through a particular channel and that's that potassium or sodium will

02:20:44.520 --> 02:20:50.280
go through a different channel at the same ratio a thousand to one or ten thousand to one and

02:20:50.280 --> 02:20:56.760
the properties of the assembly of these subunits we've identified some of the key amino acids that

02:20:57.720 --> 02:21:03.720
provide these ionic gates and we've looked at the change in their orientation as they gate

02:21:04.920 --> 02:21:09.240
and we may not we may not have a perfect understanding of how all these things work

02:21:09.240 --> 02:21:17.480
but we do have a very basic understanding of why at this size scale water is so freaking cool

02:21:17.480 --> 02:21:23.800
and we do have an interesting understanding of why at this size scale ionic concentrations

02:21:23.800 --> 02:21:30.440
can exert electrochemical forces across this barrier but the useful concentration on one side

02:21:30.440 --> 02:21:39.000
or the other won't change if a few ions flow because the volume outside of a cell is your whole

02:21:39.000 --> 02:21:44.600
body and the volume on the inside of the cell is just the inside of the cell so if the inside of

02:21:44.600 --> 02:21:51.480
the cell is a highly controlled environment then very carefully orchestrated electrochemical

02:21:51.480 --> 02:21:59.080
gradients can be used to create can be used to power and can be used to energize and metabolize

02:22:01.080 --> 02:22:07.880
and he's suggesting that all of this understanding is irrelevant to to us being electrochemical

02:22:08.760 --> 02:22:10.120
beings or something like that

02:22:13.320 --> 02:22:17.800
ladies and gentlemen i'm sorry but i can't help but come to the conclusion that this guy

02:22:17.800 --> 02:22:23.800
really doesn't know what he's talking about and some for some reason or another is so arrogant

02:22:24.360 --> 02:22:30.200
that um hasn't bothered to understand that there could be people lying about stuff and other people

02:22:30.200 --> 02:22:36.440
are not lying about stuff maybe just miss miss understanding the fidelity with which they understand

02:22:36.440 --> 02:22:45.480
it and that a no virus position or a no blood brain barrier or a no ion channels or a no electrical

02:22:45.480 --> 02:22:52.520
impulses stance on how the body works is not really compatible with what he just said of some

02:22:52.520 --> 02:23:00.040
sorts everything but in particular life is severely lacking and that we are bio energetic

02:23:00.040 --> 02:23:05.560
electrical electromagnetic beings of some sort have you ever thought about the possibility that

02:23:05.560 --> 02:23:11.720
that putting biophysicists and pigeonholing them into neuroscience in a few other places

02:23:11.720 --> 02:23:18.680
has hampered our ability to understand the role that electromagnetism and electrochemical forces

02:23:18.680 --> 02:23:25.400
have in our metabolism has kept us away from understanding how toxins in our environment could

02:23:25.400 --> 02:23:33.240
affect our neurochemical metabolism and so they keep these people focused on ion channels of

02:23:33.240 --> 02:23:38.920
one particular type so that they never realized that wow this is really a big broad biology that

02:23:39.000 --> 02:23:44.760
we should be advocating for the you know this is part of the sacred biology no instead

02:23:44.760 --> 02:23:49.160
they're all at the biophysics conference they're never talking about things unless there's a

02:23:49.160 --> 02:23:56.760
particular genetic disease related to their particular channel and so is he presenting some

02:23:56.760 --> 02:24:03.560
useful solution to try and reconcile what these people have observed with what these people have

02:24:03.560 --> 02:24:07.720
lied about observing so that we can all come to a collective understanding of where we are

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and steady's offering very dumb simple explanations for why these people are wrong

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three generations of biophysicists are all wrong about proteins and membranes and all

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wrong about electrochemical gradients that go through ion channels and all wrong about

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how action potentials are generated even though we have 30 years of consistent observation of

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these phenomenon that have never contradicted each other

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unlike virology which he's totally right about do you see what i'm saying unlike virology which

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he's totally right about that haven't advanced in their methodologies at all haven't tried to test

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their presumptions at all whereas biophysicists and protein ion channel people have been trying

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to test their presupposition since the start of their work

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i think it's a good place to stop right now we're at 220 i don't want to i don't want to take too

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long i will cover the other video which is right here i'm going to show you it in case you want to

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watch it earlier um it is on rumble it is called at least on this link it is called Dr. Cowan Dr.

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Kaufman Dr. Bailey and more why contagious viruses don't exist and then very interestingly here

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in the chat or in the in the description it says yet another scientist this time jj kui

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makes the claim that contagious viruses exist while knocking the terrain theory claim which

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says they don't but as per usual the people have put a great deal of time into research

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and research to show there are no such thing as contagious virus handily puts this scientist

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in his place and so it's actually the four of them the five of them that all respond and they're

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actually responding sorry i'm talking to the camera you can't see me they're actually responding

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to my um the email that i wrote on behalf of chd at this time so this is from a year ago

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we will watch this um and you can see it right down here the comments are very obvious right uh

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how is he not right when dr. david martin has proven the origin of this new virus huh

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after the first segment's obvious this is a hispiet piece and i'm surprised that Andy Kaufman

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involvement so what's interesting about that is i think that at least my impression is the

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Andy Kaufman might be the most the person who i have the most skepticism for because he number one

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kind of steps in front of the breggans as a psychiatrist supposedly speaking out against

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psychiatry and then he also steps in front of a lot of these no-virus people and i have a picture of

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him shaking andrew komo's hand in 2019 for a grant that he got for making biosurveillance devices for

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prison populations in new york city so if anybody is connected to the shitheads who did this to us

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in new york city it would be Andy Kaufman and the other flag for Andy Kaufman for me is that the

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first person i ever heard his name from was none other than kevin mccaren in march of 2020 and you

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know all i feel about about that fella um i mean these are all team worst case scenario members and

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so i i suspected at least one or more of these were co-opted at some point to be part of the

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worst case scenario narrative and and they may be all in on it at this stage all in on the idea of

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making sure we don't get to the finish line early enough to make a difference and that's why their

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narrative will slowly change that's why kevin mccaren and charles rixie a year ago or six months

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ago on matt crawford show said that yeah of course it's clones but now they want to you to believe

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that clones can spread that r&a can spread all it wants if you put the right sequences in there

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which turns out to be the same dumb story they were saying in 2020 already but just morphed a

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little bit to accept some of the biology that i've exposed and to kind of absorb it again to step in

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front and they're all going to do it it's going to continue until we finally get to a critical

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mass of people like mike eden nick hudson jessica hawkin mark kulak and myself and that all understand

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that this was one great big lie and it's a lie based on an ongoing deception that started much

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earlier about r&a viruses and how much fidelity r&a virology has or doesn't have

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how much these proxies of pcr's are actually indication of anything real is up for debate and

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i agree totally with these people about that the once they say there are no ion channels in that

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we don't understand anything but we're electrovings it just doesn't make any sense to me anymore

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when they start giving credit to people who freeze water and capture images of emotion in the water

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it doesn't really hold hold it just doesn't work and if you have somebody who's focused on foyas

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for five years and and foying police departments for whether they have any evidence of isolating a

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virus that's just ridiculous and so me calling out foyas as being ridiculous was a reason to

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hate on me me saying that there might be a way for all of us to be right because infectious

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clones are a methodology was a reason to hate on me and now we're in 2024 and we're still not

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really making any progress even though i've fully admitted that i was bamboozled for two years and

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i've apologized for it and admitted that i've even lost friends because i didn't get my head out fast

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enough and the only thing that anybody can do is ignore this stream because that's all they've got

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left is ignoring this stream ladies and gentlemen this has been giga ohm biological a high resistance

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low noise information brief brought to you by a biologist um

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um

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ladies and gentlemen uh intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent

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of augmenting the immune system is dumb uh transfection and healthy humans is criminally

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negligent and RNA cannot pandemic uh start there and give people to pay attention to those messages

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this has been giga ohm biological a high resistance low noise information brief brought to you by a

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biologist i'll be on a 10 10 tomorrow on saturday to do that response video because i promised

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i was going to do it with do it tomorrow and now i've got i've got work to do tomorrow again so

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i'll see you again at 10 10 tomorrow thanks for being here and uh thanks for sharing and if you

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have the means please go to giga ohm biological and find other ways to support the channel thanks

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very much shout out to mark he's still working hard and shout out to Jessica who was just interviewed

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by the corona committee in germany today i'm looking forward to that interview by with wolf

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gang and uh with vivian i also got an email from wolf gang this morning every time i get an email

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from that guy it feels like uh things might be okay um and um and nick hudson was on rustle brand

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so i'm gonna watch that this afternoon with great interest to see um what what ideas he

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mentioned and how far he got with it thanks again guys i'll see you soon

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