WEBVTT 00:33.391 --> 00:34.992 Steak knives indeed. 00:35.012 --> 00:48.882 He lied to me. 00:49.603 --> 00:53.726 I'm pretty convinced that I got used early on. 00:54.998 --> 01:19.178 uh in promoting the false narratives around this and it didn't make it pissed me off pretty good uh and um things like when i raised with michael that it looked like this i was doing sequence analysis like starting january 10th of 2020 yeah um and and i raised with michael this looked like it was an engineered pathogen and his comment was 01:19.938 --> 01:21.360 You know straight straight out. 01:21.841 --> 01:23.043 These guys are really good at lying. 01:23.203 --> 01:32.095 You got to understand if you're dealing with anybody in the intelligence community that are operative They are trained liars and in trained psychological manipulators. 01:32.115 --> 01:35.640 That's what they do the field agents Do you think you can pick one out now? 01:35.760 --> 01:39.104 I mean, someone said to me, Del, you've got to be surrounded by agents at this point. 01:39.124 --> 01:42.447 People around you, people you're talking to. 01:42.467 --> 01:53.118 It's highly probable that your cell phone and your data infrastructure are compromised with things like Pegasus 2, which you can't track. 01:55.081 --> 02:09.429 I've had people that we both know that when Jill and I turned in our old cell phones and got new ones, suddenly they came out of the woodwork and really wanted to interact with me and wanted me to answer their emails. 02:09.449 --> 02:13.891 Well that's, when you get a ping and then you respond, that's how Pegasus 2 gets loaded in. 02:15.406 --> 02:16.727 and they've gradually gone away. 02:16.807 --> 02:18.528 These people are absolutely out there. 02:19.669 --> 02:30.836 And anybody that's in our space, you kind of have to assume that you are interacting with them at one point or another, usually surreptitiously. 02:30.896 --> 02:37.501 So these are the chaos agents, and they're the ones that they so, so want to work with you. 02:38.341 --> 02:42.284 and collaborate with you, and you're like... Tell you how brilliant you are. 02:42.304 --> 02:43.245 Yeah, precisely. 02:43.325 --> 02:44.626 Yeah, absolutely. 02:45.407 --> 02:50.731 You know, it's not just the honey trap with the short skirt. 02:51.692 --> 02:55.755 There's all kinds of ways to gain the confidence of somebody, and flattery is one of them. 03:01.786 --> 03:20.303 Jonathan, who's going to talk about his latest distillation of what the pandemic means to society, to biology, to science, and to democracy, and a whole kind of idea of empiricism and integrity. 03:21.424 --> 03:24.607 And then each of us, this incredible VMN 03:26.758 --> 03:31.481 Each one of you is going to get a chance to comment on his thesis. 03:31.801 --> 03:37.884 I wanted to bring everybody together because I've read Jonathan's thoughts about this. 03:37.924 --> 03:43.547 He's one of the most thoughtful critics of the pandemic management from the beginning. 03:44.188 --> 03:52.492 He was one of the co-founders of RASTIC, which was the organization of independent scientists all over the world. 03:54.014 --> 04:06.911 particularly at the beginning of the pandemic, did really wonderful work in understanding the science, in unearthing scientific studies that made a lot of this stuff comprehensible. 04:08.212 --> 04:11.657 And he's also been instrumental in 04:13.319 --> 04:26.546 covering some of the involvement of the intelligence agencies and others in the management of the pandemic and also the long history of what we call data 04:36.400 --> 04:36.920 Actually, J.J. 04:36.940 --> 04:43.565 Cooley's insistence, and I think he's right, on calling them transfections rather than vaccines. 04:44.346 --> 04:44.846 Actually, J.J. 04:44.886 --> 04:51.511 Cooley's insistence, and I think he's right, on calling them transfections rather than vaccines. 04:53.693 --> 04:55.174 But you can tell if someone's lying. 04:55.194 --> 04:57.576 You know, you can sort of feel it in people. 04:59.395 --> 05:00.096 And I have lied. 05:00.116 --> 05:01.176 I'm sure I'll lie again. 05:01.196 --> 05:02.117 I don't want to lie. 05:02.137 --> 05:03.958 You know, I don't think I'm a liar. 05:03.978 --> 05:05.079 I try not to be a liar. 05:05.099 --> 05:05.980 I don't want to be a liar. 05:06.020 --> 05:09.322 I think it's like really important not to be a liar. 05:19.170 --> 05:20.731 I think truth is good for kids. 05:21.151 --> 05:24.894 We're so busy lying, we don't even recognize the truth no more in society. 05:25.444 --> 05:27.084 We want everybody to feel good. 05:27.204 --> 05:29.165 That's not the way life is. 05:57.813 --> 05:59.015 I don't care how you get there. 05:59.035 --> 06:01.700 I don't care what you do to get there. 06:01.720 --> 06:04.325 The goal is to win. 06:18.433 --> 06:19.834 Good morning, everybody. 06:19.934 --> 06:20.555 Good morning. 06:20.635 --> 06:21.635 Welcome to the show. 06:21.655 --> 06:28.700 This is GigaOM Biological, a high-resistance, low-noise information brief brought to you by a biologist. 06:28.740 --> 06:30.041 I'm sorry, it is Monday. 06:30.722 --> 06:33.724 For some people, this is a pretty rough day. 06:34.064 --> 06:40.469 It's that morning you got to get up and do it all over again, and for five days in a row, and I sympathize with you completely. 06:41.469 --> 06:46.192 I am fortunate enough to be able to be late for work and nobody complains directly. 06:47.132 --> 06:49.033 I apologize for being here so late. 06:50.074 --> 06:54.657 Ladies and gentlemen, please remember the main message is to get off of social media. 06:55.177 --> 07:03.141 Stop using the algorithm to cure your boredom and instead seek out information or get out and read a book. 07:04.362 --> 07:06.003 Go for a walk, go fly a kite. 07:07.003 --> 07:12.384 Buy an RC car even, I don't care, but don't use social media to cure your boredom. 07:12.905 --> 07:27.528 Ladies and gentlemen, autism spectrum disorder is a mythology that's used to make sure that intramuscular injection is never questioned as a methodology, that virology is never questioned as a science, that public health is never questioned as a reason. 07:28.228 --> 07:31.270 You can say the same thing about pandemics and gain of function. 07:32.031 --> 07:33.532 These are all myths. 07:33.612 --> 07:35.593 They are myths that hide a truth. 07:36.914 --> 07:39.996 And it's very difficult for people caught in this to see it. 07:40.997 --> 07:43.738 And that's why I think repeating things, you know, like... 07:44.719 --> 08:01.907 you don't understand the trap you're in if you don't understand why the cheese is free on social media I'm sorry but this is the message and it doesn't need to be changed a whole lot I'm gonna try and make it look different and sound different but there's one of those errors again Wow how am I managing to do that 08:04.068 --> 08:10.894 Look, the protein folding story, you know, the DNA is an antenna story. 08:11.434 --> 08:15.037 I mean, there's a lot of things out there that are out there as noise. 08:15.378 --> 08:24.045 And if you want to follow somebody who's trying to prove himself wrong, besides myself, I would suggest going to HousatonicITS.com and doing that. 08:25.086 --> 08:30.010 It is really remarkable how much I've learned as a result of being a scientist. 08:30.090 --> 08:31.832 It's very similar to being an analyst. 08:31.872 --> 08:32.832 I just don't think that 08:34.174 --> 08:50.730 As Mark characterizes an analyst, I don't think that there are very many people, yes also this sub-stack about Scotland, there aren't very many people who understand what it means to try and prove yourself wrong in the context of science, what it means to design an experiment that you know... 08:52.492 --> 08:54.654 that you know will never really fail. 08:54.734 --> 09:00.379 I mean, because you design an experiment because you know that when it fails, it still tells you something. 09:00.399 --> 09:03.001 You're still learning something, because you want to know an answer. 09:03.841 --> 09:08.365 And if you want to know an answer, then actually, no is as good as yes. 09:09.426 --> 09:09.686 Right? 09:09.786 --> 09:10.947 If you just want to know. 09:12.508 --> 09:17.833 And that's the real trick here, is that most of these people aren't playing that game, honestly. 09:17.913 --> 09:21.616 They are pretending as if they want to know, but they've also 09:22.759 --> 09:27.684 offered an unreasonable amount of certainty, often on an unreasonably early time. 09:28.404 --> 09:41.696 I mean, this is a message for Americans because I do think America has one of the last open doors in order to get out of this very big global trap that is social media. 09:43.238 --> 09:46.120 I don't think you can underestimate how this 09:47.202 --> 09:57.472 This militarized weapon of social control is being used to subvert nations around the world, or at least threaten to subvert nations around the world. 09:58.033 --> 10:00.075 And so we need to stay focused more than ever. 10:01.616 --> 10:05.880 Because social media is not something you can just use willy-nilly and get away with it. 10:05.920 --> 10:07.282 You will be bamboozled. 10:08.336 --> 10:11.338 You've got to be there, and you've got to stay focused on the biology. 10:11.378 --> 10:13.760 You've got to not take the bait that's there. 10:13.780 --> 10:23.188 You know, like, 9 out of 10 things you see on social media are going to be something that's either false or tilted in a way so as to be dishonest. 10:24.069 --> 10:28.472 And finally, you've got to make a habit of interacting with your real, live neighbors. 10:29.773 --> 10:32.516 And this is going to be very important should the internet go out. 10:33.196 --> 10:34.918 And I'm not making any jokes about that. 10:36.259 --> 10:40.462 The internet could go out for a wide variety of reasons, even if it's only for a couple of weeks. 10:42.384 --> 10:44.085 It could just be that the power goes out. 10:46.146 --> 10:51.150 And having your neighbors, your friends, and not strangers at that time will be crucial. 10:51.970 --> 11:03.639 Also crucial for your peace of mind going forward as the prices continue to rise and all this other crap that you see if you indulge in the social media swamp. 11:08.639 --> 11:12.223 Ladies and gentlemen, the voice that you hear is that of Jonathan J. Cooey. 11:12.243 --> 11:15.227 I'm coming to you live from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the back of my garage. 11:15.907 --> 11:20.913 You can find the stain of my academic work on the National Library of Medicine website PubMed. 11:22.174 --> 11:29.783 I used to be a faculty member of the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine until I was told to go home and turn in my badge and keys until it would be safe again for me to come back. 11:30.959 --> 11:41.346 And then they terminated my, well they didn't terminate my contract, they just kind of paid it out and then didn't hire me back, didn't help me get another job, didn't let me finish any of my work, etc, etc. 11:42.827 --> 11:53.795 I've also presented three times to the group named Panda, but they didn't put those on Rumble because instead what they did was they diluted and obfuscated whatever limited information they were told was okay for the script. 11:54.798 --> 11:57.401 And then they pretended like they learned it from themselves. 11:58.201 --> 12:06.870 And one of the best examples of that is the Woodhouse 76 blog written by the trader Jessica Hockett in Chicago, Illinois. 12:06.890 --> 12:09.293 She may have a last name named Faber, I don't know. 12:10.180 --> 12:13.662 I saw some mouse on the internet say that her last name might be Faber. 12:14.543 --> 12:19.105 Ladies and gentlemen, I've also participated in the writing of the Wuhan cover-up book. 12:19.745 --> 12:27.230 That was a nearly year-long employment under the auspices of working as a scientific consultant for CHD. 12:28.170 --> 12:45.704 And then I transitioned into a staff scientist position under the direction of Brian Hooker and Mary Holland, who the same people then fired me at the beginning of 2024 for talking about Robert Malone and Meryl Nass on my stream. 12:46.125 --> 12:52.650 I've also been asked not to talk about Robert Malone by one Jay Anta Bhattacharya, who's now the head of NIH. 12:52.710 --> 12:55.893 He told me that he was likely to be the head of NIH before 12:56.593 --> 13:03.201 anyone else knew about it, and told me that, you know, it would be great if I would stop talking about Robert Malone. 13:03.241 --> 13:16.256 He didn't just say it once, he said it three times in one weekend, and that was, I think, the third weekend that I had met him during the course of the pandemic, serendipitously at the gatherings of the Broken Science Initiative. 13:19.850 --> 13:21.812 This timeline is malevolent. 13:21.972 --> 13:29.760 All I can do to keep my sanity is constantly remind myself and recheck my notes about exactly what's happened so that I don't feel crazy. 13:30.340 --> 13:41.091 And sometimes I need to go all the way back to my time on JC on a Bike, which is my original YouTube channel where I was still sucking up to the faculty of the University of Pittsburgh trying to get a job as a 13:41.733 --> 13:42.754 a permanent lecturer. 13:43.595 --> 13:56.230 JC in the Woods is my response to being struck a couple times during the beginning of the pandemic, and now I'm occasionally using that to livestream, but they both have strikes on the channels now, so I guess today I'm on JC on a bike. 13:56.891 --> 13:57.371 I think so. 13:58.452 --> 14:02.277 And how it works is that I've got some supporters that help me out a lot. 14:03.411 --> 14:05.732 And I've got some supporters that help me out a little bit. 14:06.072 --> 14:15.917 And together that adds up to enough for me and my family of five to... I wouldn't use the word prosper, but I would use the word pay all the bills. 14:16.557 --> 14:21.880 Although right now, we're pretty behind on both credit cards that matter. 14:22.440 --> 14:26.042 And that's because when we can't make it, we use credit cards to do it. 14:28.194 --> 14:34.936 And so I'm very shamelessly gonna tell you that this, we are running on fumes. 14:35.737 --> 14:44.119 And so if you wanna help this out, go to gigalombiological.com and find a way to support because all these people on Substack, they don't need your subscription of $5 a week. 14:45.760 --> 14:47.821 I need your subscription of $5 a week. 14:47.861 --> 14:51.362 If you go down and scroll down, you can use PayPal to do $1 a week. 14:52.622 --> 14:53.803 And really, if we just had, 14:55.003 --> 14:57.745 I mean, we just had enough to keep this going. 14:57.785 --> 14:59.866 This would be an eternal show. 15:01.507 --> 15:03.508 Because I do enjoy producing it. 15:04.248 --> 15:06.550 I do enjoy the reading that I get to do. 15:06.650 --> 15:09.892 I do enjoy all the learning that I'm doing over the course of the six years. 15:10.802 --> 15:15.845 I just don't enjoy the struggle of shaking a can on the internet. 15:16.745 --> 15:27.231 It would be great if I didn't have to do five shows a week to barely even get where we need to go, but I don't really know how to do that any other way because the internet is flooded with stuff. 15:29.122 --> 15:33.364 And it's it's flooded with stuff that doesn't ever stop coming right? 15:33.444 --> 15:35.585 It's it's never gonna stop coming. 15:35.665 --> 15:42.268 None of these sub stacks are ever gonna stop Good morning, my name is Jonathan Cooey. 15:42.448 --> 15:42.768 Hello. 15:42.888 --> 15:56.394 Welcome to the show You might notice that I have a t-shirt on that is not my own, but it's a t-shirt from my basketball gym shoe 360 who in no way shape or form sponsors this but 15:57.915 --> 16:02.438 They do give me my own free membership and I occasionally make movies for the owner. 16:03.018 --> 16:09.203 But I'm still paying for my boys, so it's a relationship that a lot of people would call probably not a very good one. 16:09.263 --> 16:16.768 But the reason why I do it is because I'm going to teach my biology there on the court and on the shooting machines. 16:17.897 --> 16:21.080 And because I want that place to remain my thing. 16:21.160 --> 16:22.982 I don't want to start working there. 16:23.002 --> 16:32.290 I don't want to be some guy that produces media for that place because then it won't feel like the temple of whatever that it is. 16:32.350 --> 16:36.333 I mean, it is wonderful to walk in there and hear the noise and the echo. 16:37.895 --> 16:40.457 and then be able to do what I can do there. 16:40.778 --> 16:41.719 It's a wonderful place. 16:41.759 --> 16:46.383 I don't think anybody should go there or join it or anything like that. 16:46.984 --> 16:56.533 I think it's just fine the way it is in much the same way that I think the upper part of the main part of Michigan is a place where you don't need to go visit. 16:57.114 --> 17:00.678 Just like Door County in Wisconsin is a place where you never need to go visit. 17:01.498 --> 17:10.641 These places are Beth best left alone and certainly shoot 360 in Pittsburgh is one of those places where if you like basketball You can probably find a better place closer to you. 17:10.661 --> 17:17.844 So don't bother looking for it Anyway, the the goal of the show today is pretty deep. 17:18.184 --> 17:21.025 I'm sorry Man, shoot. 17:21.085 --> 17:22.146 I didn't set that up. 17:22.486 --> 17:23.586 My goodness sakes. 17:24.106 --> 17:25.907 This is some serious amateur hour. 17:25.987 --> 17:28.308 I really thought I did the checklist I'm not a pilot 17:28.968 --> 17:30.090 I don't have a checklist. 17:30.150 --> 17:32.553 I should have a checklist, but I don't have a checklist. 17:33.274 --> 17:35.717 And then I want you to be size A, I believe. 17:35.797 --> 17:36.237 Is that right? 17:37.639 --> 17:38.981 Oh, I didn't do that either. 17:39.081 --> 17:41.244 See, no checklist today. 17:41.304 --> 17:42.085 Sorry about that. 17:42.185 --> 17:44.948 I'll just do my hand here and it'll be fine. 17:45.028 --> 17:45.589 Let's see. 17:45.889 --> 17:47.231 Yes, right there. 17:49.585 --> 17:53.426 So I do think, oh yeah, so I was explaining shoot 360. 17:53.966 --> 17:58.687 The shirt says, I think it's meant to say shot 10K. 17:59.888 --> 18:02.948 So yesterday I made my 10,000th jump shot. 18:02.968 --> 18:03.348 It took me 19,700. 18:03.388 --> 18:08.990 I think it was, it's really very close to 50% shooting over the course of 20,000 shots. 18:16.617 --> 18:23.440 19,707. 18:18.477 --> 18:23.440 It took me to get 10,013 jumpers. 18:23.700 --> 18:26.061 So that's pretty cool. 18:26.601 --> 18:36.786 But surprisingly, after shooting 20,000 jump shots, and I'm not kidding, and making 10,000, I don't feel any better. 18:37.246 --> 18:40.168 And in fact, I feel a little better at it. 18:41.641 --> 18:46.366 It's remarkable how, actually, I had much more progress to make with my ball handling. 18:46.706 --> 18:57.037 And over the last 141 days, I have made some pretty remarkable progress in my humble opinion in my ball handling. 18:58.098 --> 19:02.961 It doesn't completely translate to full court behavior yet because that's a little trickier. 19:03.001 --> 19:04.242 You're moving a little faster. 19:04.282 --> 19:07.004 And so I'm now working drills in like that. 19:07.064 --> 19:14.469 But my stationary, you know, moving left, moving right, couple first couple steps stuff has gotten really, really good. 19:14.509 --> 19:16.370 And more importantly, my eyes have come up. 19:16.871 --> 19:27.718 I'm a kid who grew up in northern Wisconsin, was trained as a center back when a center still meant this guy who could only do a power, a power dribble, you know, as he did a drop step and then 19:28.318 --> 19:52.977 You know, you can do some pivots and stuff like that, but very old school post player I was and when I went to college And started playing at night, you know after classes is when I started to turn my to face the basket at least as kind of like what I thought was a swing forward and when I When I walked on for that little bit of time during my sophomore year I 19:55.222 --> 19:58.064 That was the time of David Booth. 19:58.304 --> 20:10.534 And so David Booth was this swing forward kind of dude, you know, that would run the baseline and be on the baseline shot for a jumper or maybe a, you know, a fake and a dribble one to the side, something like that. 20:13.516 --> 20:15.578 I mean, I'm not comparing myself to any of these people. 20:15.618 --> 20:24.024 I'm just saying that at the time that I played basketball, there were these more defined positions, whereas now it's pretty much, you know, everybody just basically moves around 20:25.171 --> 20:25.891 It's remarkable. 20:25.911 --> 20:27.372 There's a point guard and that's about it. 20:28.772 --> 20:30.333 Anyway, 10,000 shots. 20:30.453 --> 20:31.813 Congratulations to me. 20:32.293 --> 20:36.574 That means that I'm almost ready to start teaching, which is pretty good. 20:36.655 --> 20:40.196 My back's about 99% from the last couple weeks. 20:41.176 --> 20:52.899 And so, I don't know why I'm wasting this much time telling you other than I'm very excited to be mostly healthy again and very excited to be at this point where I am planning on pivoting from these kinds of shows. 20:52.939 --> 20:54.480 I'm not that I'm never going to do it again. 20:56.817 --> 21:15.373 But if you see how easy it is to just go and grab some stuff and show you how malevolent these people are and how easy it is to see that this fake anti-vax, fake health freedom movement that's present on Substack and X and nowhere else 21:16.377 --> 21:30.070 you know, in the backwoods of the internet, but nowhere in mainstream media, nowhere in the other half of the internet, which is unfortunately very invisible to most of us because we just choose not to look. 21:32.031 --> 21:35.795 And we are in a very dangerous place in America because of these shitheads. 21:36.055 --> 21:38.397 And this is for the grandchildren of earth. 21:39.298 --> 21:41.901 And if America doesn't pull their head out, nobody will. 21:42.625 --> 21:43.826 That's the reality of it. 21:43.866 --> 21:49.770 If America pulls their head out, maybe it's possible that some other people will pull their head out, but otherwise it ain't happening. 21:50.990 --> 21:52.171 Did I somehow get this off? 21:52.211 --> 21:52.691 Yeah, I did. 21:56.314 --> 22:10.343 And so I got rid of the word endemicity in the back there because I want you to make sure that you understand that we are trying to seek truth together about what they told us happened here, which is, you know, a lab leak in 2019 is now gone endemic. 22:14.226 --> 22:17.628 That's why that endemicity thing is removed. 22:17.668 --> 22:20.130 We're not buying into that story. 22:20.190 --> 22:22.492 So what we wanna know is what really happened here. 22:22.512 --> 22:25.994 And of course, it's not that there was a novel virus that got out of a lab. 22:29.556 --> 22:39.143 And remember that we are not in a position to be forced or coerced into explaining the details of what happened, rather, 22:40.194 --> 22:44.559 Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence and they have none. 22:46.261 --> 22:56.753 And so this claim of something happening for the last six years that has resulted in a permanent change in the way that we live, in the way that we think about our world is false. 23:01.089 --> 23:11.934 And that's why there's this fake anti-vax health freedom movement that's getting rid of seed oils and petroleum-based dyes and also saving the animals from animal testing. 23:13.775 --> 23:20.538 We must seek the truth of this, the truth about this biology, the truth behind this mythology. 23:21.419 --> 23:23.119 And so it's not without 23:26.775 --> 23:38.722 great humility that I suggest that the virus is the illusion, because it's very, very easy to say that, like Andy Kaufman says it, or Tom Cowan says it, or any of these people say it. 23:38.862 --> 23:43.005 It's very enticing to say, well, then they were always right, but they weren't. 23:44.602 --> 23:56.125 because what those people have masterfully covered because of the unique script that they are all on, none of them have talked about the fact that recombinant DNA 23:57.012 --> 24:05.278 or RNA can be produced in high quantities only one way that we know of cheaply, and that is using bacterial cultures. 24:05.318 --> 24:10.761 And that is indeed how it is done when the goal is to produce a protein biologic. 24:10.881 --> 24:26.572 One of the most popular of the biologics that pharmaceutical companies make, that class of drug, a protein-based biologic, is produced using recombinant DNA produced in huge vats of bacteria. 24:28.092 --> 24:45.534 And none of these people, absolutely none of these people that have been present since the beginning of the narrative on the pseudo-conservative, it's a fake conservative side of America, the skeptical side of America, all these people have been put in place to make sure that they never, ever say that. 24:47.625 --> 24:54.407 And they could have said that in 2020, when this all started, because that was the standard in the industry. 24:54.947 --> 25:07.150 That's the reason why the people that are in front of us right now have connections to industry, government labs, transfection, genetics, because they are all in on this narrative. 25:07.190 --> 25:09.351 And they all understand the imperative 25:10.393 --> 25:21.057 to make sure that nobody understands that the basis for the manufacture of all biologics was the same basis for the manufacture of all these mRNA shots. 25:21.117 --> 25:27.259 And so even if they were all live, there was no way they were going to be uniform. 25:27.299 --> 25:29.200 There was no way they were going to be pure. 25:29.240 --> 25:33.802 There was no way they were going to be the kind of thing that was claimed in the cartoons. 25:33.862 --> 25:34.482 And instead, 25:35.282 --> 25:46.189 These people were set out here with a malevolent script where they argued about the spike protein of the virus and whether it was a lab leak or whether it was natural and whether they were covering it up or not. 25:47.650 --> 26:01.379 And that was a master stroke because it got them to be able to talk about a bunch of biology that was essentially intended to cover up the crime of transfection that would come in like 14 months later. 26:03.325 --> 26:05.726 And the longer they could make that go, the better. 26:05.806 --> 26:13.568 The longer the debate about lab leak and the tracking and the lockdown and, you know, old people dying, the longer that could go, the better. 26:13.608 --> 26:25.131 I don't know if they intended it to go just as long as it did until the end of 2022, or if they would have liked one more year, but it's clear from the data that it abruptly stopped in the end of 2022. 26:27.458 --> 26:41.424 And so it's remarkable at this stage that none of these people that have been anti-vaxxers for decades or have had an injured child until, you know, for 20 years have never been able to hone their message. 26:41.484 --> 26:51.309 They were stuck and have been stuck for a very long time on some component of the autism, sorry, some component of the vaccine schedule causes autism. 26:52.193 --> 27:00.178 They've never been able to get to the stage where they could start to talk about how, wait, maybe intramuscular injection in general is just not medicine. 27:01.939 --> 27:06.622 Maybe any combination of substances injected intramuscularly doesn't really make sense. 27:06.742 --> 27:15.127 Have we ever really thought about it and then done the research necessary to figure out whether we have actually done the thinking about it? 27:16.089 --> 27:23.736 The only person that I can find on earth that has been inspired to do that since I started saying this is Mark Kulak. 27:25.217 --> 27:31.924 And what Mark Kulak is finding is that there's not this, you know, system-wide transition to the acceptance of injection. 27:32.364 --> 27:39.931 It looks like maybe the doctors that were also treating animals and injecting animals just decided, well, maybe we can inject people. 27:43.539 --> 27:55.123 And if intramuscular injection came on the market, became common practice in the late 1800s, maybe we need to rethink it. 27:55.323 --> 28:05.927 If transfection was what it was called on Robert Malone's resume in the 90s, maybe somebody's lying to us. 28:06.347 --> 28:12.649 If viruses are not alive because they don't have any of the characteristics of something living, 28:14.039 --> 28:19.846 then maybe we shouldn't talk about them the way we talk about them, but they're just not, it's not, we're not there. 28:21.208 --> 28:23.971 And we haven't gotten there because these people are all on a script. 28:24.011 --> 28:26.054 This lady, for example, is on a script. 28:27.636 --> 28:28.577 This is a dead woman. 28:31.263 --> 28:37.668 And this, you can see in her face, she's just not, doesn't want to be called a hero and not by Brandy Vaughn. 28:38.489 --> 28:44.173 She knows the whole reason why she's on earth is to stand in front of Brandy Vaughn and Tony Bark. 28:45.354 --> 28:45.975 She knows it. 28:48.171 --> 28:52.913 I gotta warn you, this is gonna be a very long show today because I'm not sure I'm gonna get on tomorrow. 28:52.993 --> 28:56.134 I'm gonna try to get on tomorrow, but I might not get on tomorrow because we're busy. 28:57.435 --> 29:01.036 And so this show is just gonna be a real wallop. 29:02.376 --> 29:07.658 And I've shown you how this is scripted bullshit because this woman could say it in less than a minute and a half. 29:07.778 --> 29:09.619 I don't think there are any good vaccines. 29:09.659 --> 29:10.860 I don't think you can do that. 29:11.380 --> 29:14.001 And she got on Joe Rogan for three hours and couldn't say it. 29:15.034 --> 29:15.855 She's a traitor. 29:16.415 --> 29:18.056 She's a scripted traitor. 29:18.476 --> 29:29.002 And so when I say that these people were put in place to curate a narrative to make sure that the damage from transfection could be blamed on the novel virus, I think that's the best anyone's ever said it. 29:31.143 --> 29:44.011 And the remarkable thing is, is that there are so many people in this picture who have tried to take what limited biology they're allowed to from my show, from my language, and incorporate it into their shtick. 29:44.875 --> 30:10.232 Pretend that they came up with it on their own and it's it's kind of flattering and it's also kind of annoying because at the same time They usually purposefully obfuscate any way of finding me by referring to me as JJ Or never putting a website there or never never in any way providing a link and so what these people have done over the last six years was just mess with me and my family and 30:11.087 --> 30:26.871 Now, I don't know how many other people have been messed with by as many people as I have, but I have the receipts to show that so many of these people have been actively involved, probably actively scripted in their interaction with me and my wife. 30:27.931 --> 30:34.553 This is a very, very serious thing that I'm accusing these people of, some of whom are actually in government right now. 30:37.374 --> 30:39.094 So I take this very seriously. 30:40.316 --> 30:43.078 I'm not messing around and that's why I repeat it. 30:48.964 --> 30:56.571 Now I would especially today like to talk about these because it's a great example of how Substack has been 30:57.867 --> 30:59.268 weaponized against us. 30:59.448 --> 31:08.632 Now, remember, Substack has all kinds of AI features and AI features allow it to do all kinds of things, especially for people with admin privileges. 31:08.712 --> 31:23.939 So I just presume that anybody that's writing a Substack for this group here is actively manipulated, even maybe just they're allowed to post whatever they want to whenever they want to, when they want to use their Substack. 31:24.909 --> 31:30.336 But Paul Alexander is another example of a guy who, I don't know if he's in this picture, actually. 31:31.037 --> 31:42.411 Paul Alexander is another guy who has posted about me a lot on his sub stack, but his sub stack is so obnoxious and so ridiculous that that actually hurt me a lot of times, I think, because I get associated with him. 31:44.284 --> 31:56.874 And so that's the same thing that this, you know, small little gnome of a man here also did from his desks in Tokyo or the UK or wherever the hell he lives. 31:56.934 --> 31:58.275 Maybe he lives in India, I don't know. 31:59.436 --> 32:02.039 And that's what this little gnome did, Charles Rixey. 32:02.079 --> 32:03.600 These two guys came to my house. 32:06.322 --> 32:08.164 Paul Alexander came to my house. 32:09.645 --> 32:10.966 CHD employed me. 32:12.429 --> 32:13.670 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 32:13.730 --> 32:14.491 employed me. 32:17.794 --> 32:19.695 I mean, this is no joke here. 32:22.498 --> 32:23.899 I just want the truth out. 32:24.079 --> 32:29.363 I want people to understand that they could have told you everything that I'm telling you in 2020. 32:29.443 --> 32:40.813 That it was always transfection, that there are a million reasons not to do it, that PCR was never going to be specific, especially because they don't make any attempt to differentiate it from a background. 32:42.199 --> 32:49.146 And you don't think that these people could have told you that in 2020, or that these people are not scripted by them? 32:49.707 --> 32:51.309 It's just absurd at this point. 32:55.305 --> 33:11.618 The same joke that Jessica Hockett played with Pierre Corey when we were still in communication with her, where she got a substack response from Corey a couple times with a few hundred videos, made video responses to all of her questions. 33:12.138 --> 33:24.308 But as soon as we wanted them to talk about supplementary oxygen and how that might be dangerous, suddenly, I don't know, Jessica Hockett decided to burn all bridges and disappear and pretend like we never, you know, like we never talked. 33:25.629 --> 33:27.411 And she's still working right now. 33:27.491 --> 33:48.831 Here it is in April, 2025 with Jonathan Engler and Martin Neal, as I accused her of, but now also having the same kind of discussion, response, and callback on Substack with Sasha Latupova, the mother of Soph, this teenage girl who was making all kinds of ridiculous videos before the pandemic. 33:50.250 --> 34:01.000 promoted by Alex Jones three times in 2019, even made a video during the pandemic about shooting Trump and Biden with her mom being the cameraman most likely. 34:02.181 --> 34:06.224 This lady was promoted multiple times by CHD, by Meryl Nass. 34:07.245 --> 34:09.727 Nass and Polly had her on a webcast once. 34:10.308 --> 34:14.672 She was also on American Thought Leaders with the Epoch Times. 34:17.389 --> 34:30.152 And now we're supposed to believe there's some spontaneous discussion about whether there was a poisoning event in New York City because, you know, we're all so smart that we're just considering the best theories with the best theorizers. 34:31.252 --> 34:37.193 But don't forget that Sasha Latapova was on stage with Robert Malone in the beginning of 2023 in Stockholm, Sweden with Meryl Nass. 34:42.515 --> 34:48.219 and Aseem Malhotra, Mike Palmer of the Doctors for COVID Ethics group. 34:49.819 --> 34:51.801 I mean, this is absurd. 34:51.941 --> 34:58.965 There's no possible way that these people are all random assemblies of international patriots fighting for our freedom. 34:59.025 --> 35:04.949 This is a carefully scripted group of shitheads that's getting their script from Robert Malone and Kevin McKernan. 35:05.862 --> 35:11.865 Even Nick Hudson, who's closely connected to those two over there because he's the other coordinator of Panda. 35:11.885 --> 35:17.668 Don't forget that Jonathan Engler is the co-chair of Heart, where Claire Craig works. 35:17.768 --> 35:22.390 Claire Craig was the head of the 100,000 Genomes Project before the pandemic. 35:22.410 --> 35:25.292 Not that dissimilar to what we're talking about here. 35:26.581 --> 35:35.189 where they use the pandemic to manage the population pyramid and invert our sovereignty into experimental animal status because that's what they all wanted before the pandemic. 35:35.710 --> 35:44.618 This is a retired pharma exec that if she knew anything she would know how biologics are made and therefore know that an RNA made that way would never be pure. 35:45.419 --> 35:59.749 Just like this guy would definitely know that, and that guy would definitely know that, and that fat guy up there is probably too stupid to know that, but he's not too stupid to know that supplementary oxygen done willy-nilly, I don't know, at like 60 liters a minute of pure, would kill somebody. 36:01.670 --> 36:08.975 That's why Pierre Cory was a witness for the George Floyd trial and testified that the police killed him. 36:09.055 --> 36:10.817 These are all one show! 36:12.557 --> 36:17.919 And so as they perform on substack and post on each other, it gets much worse than that. 36:18.800 --> 36:25.582 Because somebody like Sasha Latupova can also have like an anonymous substack, you know, where, oh, that came in wrong. 36:25.642 --> 36:26.663 Sorry, I got to change that. 36:27.463 --> 36:28.664 I don't want that first. 36:28.724 --> 36:29.544 I want that last. 36:34.701 --> 36:40.522 Because Sasha Latapova can also use like a anonymous substack, like being nobody, going nowhere. 36:41.182 --> 36:49.344 This might be a good guy, who knows, but he writes a substack with fuck off, fuck off, fuck off in the title, so he's not really trying to get a wide audience. 36:50.645 --> 36:56.366 But this substack, of course, has a lot of commentary about how the no-virus people are a fake. 36:57.358 --> 36:59.159 It's ridiculous to stop there. 36:59.260 --> 37:05.645 It's very similar to what I've been saying for the last four and a half years, but let's ignore that for a second. 37:05.685 --> 37:17.434 Let's just assume that this is a spontaneous substack and that this is just how we're gonna get free because people on substack like this dude, being nobody, going nowhere is gonna save us. 37:17.514 --> 37:21.237 Well, what do we see in the substack if we roll down to the bottom? 37:21.277 --> 37:22.678 We see two comments. 37:23.831 --> 37:29.153 There's 458 more comments, but there are two comments, one and two. 37:29.273 --> 37:39.377 The second one is Sasha Latipova, and we're supposed to believe that that's by accident, that the only one that shows up on the bottom here is this Mike Wallach, and then Sasha Latipova. 37:39.397 --> 37:44.999 There's 458 other comments, but this is the one, maybe this was the second one there, who knows? 37:47.031 --> 37:50.514 Now what I find very curious about this is just let's read this. 37:50.794 --> 37:53.737 Yes, no virus trolls are a psyop. 37:53.857 --> 37:59.542 They are a nasty cult like set of mostly anonymous trolls, but there are a few named individuals too. 38:00.102 --> 38:03.345 They behave very much like the Scientology cult. 38:03.465 --> 38:04.046 That's dumb. 38:04.646 --> 38:17.517 to drop in there because that's just a nod to Matt Crawford's wild goose chase, or it might not be a wild goose chase, but that's a thread that doesn't matter because it doesn't talk at all about the brass tacks of how we think our way out. 38:18.018 --> 38:21.261 Very aggressive, posts the same mockingbird comments everywhere. 38:22.001 --> 38:24.243 Become irate the minute they are told to calm down. 38:24.303 --> 38:25.825 I had to ban several of them. 38:25.845 --> 38:26.965 Ooh, she had to ban them. 38:27.726 --> 38:30.469 One is Christine Massey, a total nutcase. 38:31.149 --> 38:34.156 If she shows up in your feed, my advice is ban right away. 38:34.216 --> 38:36.942 I got them under control on my page being ruthless. 38:37.864 --> 38:39.669 Social media is like a prison yard. 38:41.618 --> 38:57.626 Now, so she's claiming that Christine Massey is her total nutcase, even though remember in my story, Christine Massey is the representative of the no virus group that was having regular comment connections and communication with me while I was a staff scientist at CHD. 38:57.746 --> 39:05.891 And Mary Holland had asked me to write a suitable response where I tried to bring them both together in understanding 39:06.849 --> 39:10.473 that the manufacture of biologics was the key to understanding this. 39:10.573 --> 39:14.477 The illusion of RNA pandemicking was the key to understanding this. 39:15.077 --> 39:20.083 Understanding that it's always been transfection was key to understanding this and they ignored it all. 39:20.845 --> 39:38.120 CHD ignored it and more importantly they hid behind the idea that the no virus people had such a ridiculous response that you know, you got to send some some Links and articles where the articles that show that infectious clones are real and it was like wait What are you talking about? 39:38.140 --> 39:42.083 You're not that dumb, but the whole time of course, that was Christine Massey. 39:42.143 --> 39:48.429 So now we have Sasha Latipova the mother of Soph Alex Jones star 39:49.833 --> 40:11.136 retired pharma executive, sold her company to Pfizer, got all of her money while she was at the University of Rochester from the Democratic Party, voted Clinton according to her own daughter on Alex Jones, this lady who once spent like three days in a row just tweeting all day long about how terrible I was. 40:12.759 --> 40:18.663 This lady right here was on stage with Robert Malone is now saying that Christine Massey is one of these total nutcases. 40:18.723 --> 40:23.626 It gets so much better once you just open up and see it. 40:27.989 --> 40:31.752 Now, this is another comment that she makes. 40:32.540 --> 40:34.403 which I just find extraordinary. 40:35.265 --> 40:40.233 I know the difference between informed debates and logical arguments and a total internet troll operation. 40:40.674 --> 40:46.424 I got attacked by PSYOPs on all sides, except the PROVACs mainstream who seem to pretend I don't exist. 40:48.055 --> 40:52.618 So why would it matter whether she exists to the pro-vax mainstream? 40:53.158 --> 41:16.014 On the other hand, me, who is in the Wuhan cover-up book as an expert and is now calling Bobby Kennedy essentially a puppeted, scripted fraud, and calling out the NIH director as a foreign agent, calling out the head of the FDA and the head of CBER as a possible foreign agent puppets, all run by Robert Malone and Kevin McKernan's associates, 41:17.662 --> 41:21.824 and everybody on the pro-vax mainstream seems to ignore me. 41:24.606 --> 41:37.172 I get attacked by the Nanobot Nutjobs, the Jicky Leaks Mouse Collective, the Kevins, is that Kevin McCairn and Kevin McKernan, the two people that I have association with since 2020? 41:39.568 --> 41:45.531 You mean the ones that I've been calling out for the last five years, Robert Malone and half of the Maha and their trolls, you name it. 41:45.591 --> 41:48.233 I'm an expert at attracting all the best the internet has to offer. 41:48.253 --> 41:53.676 And the no virus anonymous swarming of any account that has a following, that's a PSYOP campaign without a doubt. 41:53.716 --> 41:57.558 Those are not good people trying to convince, they are a nasty bullshit cult, thanks. 42:00.580 --> 42:05.383 They are not in search, you see, this is how fraudulent it's become. 42:06.564 --> 42:08.246 This is the last of their bench. 42:08.966 --> 42:16.854 They're actually considering the possibility she's auditioning to play the role of opposition to the Kevins. 42:19.736 --> 42:20.637 The mother of Soph. 42:24.641 --> 42:25.662 I don't know why that happened. 42:25.682 --> 42:26.202 What was that? 42:26.403 --> 42:27.283 Hold on one second. 42:27.944 --> 42:28.705 Oh yeah, that was that one. 42:28.725 --> 42:29.145 That's fine. 42:30.326 --> 42:31.908 So let me just show you what I mean here. 42:33.530 --> 42:34.290 Just watch this. 42:35.110 --> 42:37.851 This is that comment that I just showed you right here, right? 42:37.971 --> 42:39.412 This was the one I clicked open. 42:39.452 --> 42:41.692 And this is, I know the difference between informed debates. 42:42.473 --> 42:51.835 Now, if you scroll and look at all the comments, remember, these are all the comments that are under her original comment on a sub stack that she didn't write. 42:52.756 --> 42:57.457 Now, if I show you this and you're gonna, you can't tell me that they're not working there. 42:58.541 --> 43:12.908 You can't tell me that they're not working at Substack and being paid through the laundering money machine of this fake subscriptions or whatever the hell they are on Substack because this is absolutely preposterous. 43:14.489 --> 43:20.733 There is no way that somebody who has a life is doing this on a daily basis. 43:21.633 --> 43:25.175 Look at all these responses that she wrote in one day 43:26.405 --> 43:31.990 in one day of comments on a substack that supposedly she didn't even write. 43:35.573 --> 43:50.785 And once you realize that, of course, her team wrote it, the same team that she plays for wrote it, and then she springboards off of it to get people to come back to her account, to get people to follow those stupid leads, and to be a subscriber to her. 43:52.226 --> 43:53.107 They're all whores. 43:54.793 --> 44:02.498 They're social media whores and they have the benefit of programming and administrative privileges on these platforms. 44:03.039 --> 44:04.540 There's no way to explain this. 44:05.380 --> 44:17.048 Best case scenario, this is her kid or somebody that they just hire because they're so rich or they just hire because they're part of a machine, the same machine that Alex Jones is a part of. 44:17.108 --> 44:20.931 Maybe this is a production of Alex Jones's company, I don't know. 44:22.642 --> 44:23.382 Why not, right? 44:23.423 --> 44:25.664 I mean, he had her three times on his stream. 44:25.824 --> 44:36.191 I mean, she's clearly an abusive parent in the sense of, if you look at the earliest videos of Soph, you know, when she's really underage, it's just gross. 44:36.451 --> 44:46.858 And to think that, that, that CHD and Meryl Nass and Pauly Tommy promoted this woman as some kind of legit chick that have been on stage with her multiple times. 44:46.898 --> 44:49.980 I mean, Mary Holland just said her name the other day. 44:50.000 --> 44:51.841 I mean, it's, it's, it's gross. 44:54.517 --> 44:56.439 But it's only gross if you can see it. 44:56.539 --> 45:06.008 It's only gross if you have a long enough perspective in your understanding of how these people have played this to see that they are just one malevolent team. 45:08.638 --> 45:14.082 So not even a day ago, she says that pandemics are fiction and gain of functions are also fiction. 45:14.142 --> 45:17.205 So she's trying really hard, you know, really, really hard. 45:17.265 --> 45:20.367 And Daniel Negassi is telling her, no, no, no. 45:20.407 --> 45:32.036 And just to tell you, no, I, Daniel Negassi might be a good guy, but the only contact I've ever had with Daniel Negassi is that he contacted me on Twitter and asked if I wanted to start a sequencing and synthesis company. 45:33.933 --> 45:35.234 I mean, I can't make this shit up. 45:35.775 --> 45:40.180 So when I see this, and I see this, I just see a show. 45:40.200 --> 45:43.804 I don't care if they're witting or unwitting anymore. 45:43.884 --> 45:48.410 Sasha Latapova is one of the worst, if she's an American, she's one of the worst Americans alive. 45:49.451 --> 45:53.636 She's a huge fraud and evidence of her, of her 45:55.143 --> 46:02.885 malevolence is in her earliest videos of her daughter, which are just in my mind evidence of child abuse or something else. 46:02.945 --> 46:03.806 I mean, it's gross. 46:04.846 --> 46:13.149 And she also takes advantage of the fact that her daughter wasn't very old looking as a kid, you know, and that's also gross, right? 46:13.209 --> 46:24.092 If you have a daughter that looks really young and then you also are interested in putting her on the internet and having her fake overdose and talk about sex, that's Sasha Latupova. 46:25.899 --> 46:36.158 And so now we're going to have a little fake argument here between Daniel Legassi and Sasha Latapova, who will be really, you know, cordial with each other about, well, there might be plant viruses, but there are not other viruses. 46:36.178 --> 46:37.721 This is all blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 46:40.871 --> 46:42.172 These people are all frauds. 46:42.292 --> 46:43.552 They're all frauds. 46:43.612 --> 46:45.033 They're all working together. 46:46.054 --> 46:47.515 They're all on the same script. 46:47.555 --> 46:57.060 That's why Nick Hudson had to be off the coast of Turkey with Robert Malone and his wife on a cruise with probably Meryl Nass and a bunch of these other people, because that's how this is done. 46:59.921 --> 47:04.344 And they slowly read people in on what they need to understand, explain it to them as best they can. 47:04.384 --> 47:06.845 But there are a few people who get the script like we got it. 47:08.424 --> 47:11.626 But once you get it, it's pretty obvious what's going on here. 47:12.387 --> 47:13.788 Even Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 47:13.848 --> 47:19.711 had Sasha Latupova on his Defender podcast for a whole hour, whereas with me, what did he do? 47:20.532 --> 47:35.502 He originally booked me for an hour, but then within two days of the show, he decided he needed to have Robert Malone, Meryl Ness, Jessica Rose, and Tess Laurie as witness to my very short presentation. 47:37.557 --> 47:40.099 I mean, that's the admission, that's it. 47:40.299 --> 47:41.419 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 47:41.459 --> 47:47.043 is scripted, he has handlers, he has people that he trusts, and those people are manipulating him. 47:47.583 --> 47:50.625 They've used him to get people into positions of power. 47:51.325 --> 47:54.147 I don't think they are manipulating the Trump administration. 47:54.187 --> 47:57.889 They're part of the show that is the Trump administration. 47:57.969 --> 48:00.511 Don't think that Donald Trump is some kind of mastermind. 48:00.531 --> 48:04.433 He's an idiot, and he's being run by people who are much smarter than him. 48:05.871 --> 48:07.873 He's just better on camera than Joe Biden. 48:11.176 --> 48:15.761 America is in very big trouble because these people were put in place, many of them before the pandemic. 48:15.821 --> 48:22.448 People like Vinay Prasad were put in place before the pandemic, around the same time that Brett Weinstein was put in place. 48:30.509 --> 48:38.652 And so these key actors, which were put in play, look at this now, I have to zoom out because we don't even, I don't even have this data for the black space over here. 48:38.672 --> 48:39.792 I don't have this data. 48:40.272 --> 48:45.054 So it's worse than it has ever been in the sense of how long they've run the time out. 48:45.114 --> 48:48.875 Look at this signal and tell me that you can see it. 48:50.759 --> 48:53.061 They murdered people in America and lied about it. 48:53.101 --> 48:57.024 It's manslaughter, I get it, but it's definitely murder. 48:58.785 --> 49:17.620 Now the important thing to understand, and I didn't say it, I should have said it on this screen, is that it's during 2015, that's right here, that Mary Holland was first on Democracy Now opposite Paul Offit talking about how one component of the MMR 49:19.472 --> 49:25.155 untested against placebo caused autism in her son, and she just wants safe vaccines. 49:26.536 --> 49:32.979 And now we are a decade later in 2025, and they have not preceded their narrative at all. 49:33.039 --> 49:41.683 In fact, it's so malevolent right now that on the other side of the coin, ladies and gentlemen, they believe 49:43.345 --> 49:58.848 that the lie about autism has essentially been debunked because claiming victory for removing thalidomide and mercury from the vaccine schedule is ridiculous because they took it out of the MMR already years and years ago. 50:01.168 --> 50:03.969 That's the actual happening right now. 50:04.849 --> 50:06.029 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 50:06.089 --> 50:08.089 was used to walk us right into that trap. 50:08.129 --> 50:09.450 Paul Offit is dunking. 50:10.050 --> 50:11.450 They're all dunking on him. 50:12.366 --> 50:15.648 And it's happening all over the internet and all over mainstream media. 50:15.788 --> 50:16.629 It's absurd. 50:16.709 --> 50:19.871 And at the same time, we have people telling us it's good. 50:19.911 --> 50:22.833 So first watch the bad, and then we'll watch the good. 50:23.714 --> 50:30.559 This week in virology, the podcast about viruses, the kind that make you sick. 50:34.599 --> 50:43.425 From Microbe TV, this is TWiV, This Week in Virology, Episode 1232, recorded on July 3rd, 2024. 50:43.765 --> 50:50.049 I'm Vincent Racaniello, and you're listening to the podcast, All About Viruses. 50:50.789 --> 50:54.632 Joining me today from New York, Daniel Griffin. 50:54.992 --> 50:56.333 Hello, everyone. 50:57.691 --> 51:02.213 Yeah, I really can't see anything on your tie, so you'll have to tell me or give me a clue. 51:02.293 --> 51:03.913 I just see blue and yellow. 51:04.413 --> 51:06.034 OK, so yellow is good. 51:06.154 --> 51:08.915 So there are these golden grape. 51:09.015 --> 51:12.256 I might just escape out of here and see if this works. 51:14.797 --> 51:15.097 No. 51:15.318 --> 51:16.318 OK, I got to do. 51:19.122 --> 51:27.471 I'm going to put it up on a separate video because then I can speed it up for us. 51:29.033 --> 51:32.517 But I do want you to hear it because I want you to really hear what they're saying. 51:32.537 --> 51:39.365 This week in virology, the podcast about viruses, the kind that make you sick. 51:42.458 --> 51:48.702 From Microbe TV, this is TWIV, This Week in Virology, episode 1232, recorded on July 3rd, 2024. 51:50.403 --> 51:53.264 I'm Vincent Racaniello, and you're listening to the podcast all about viruses. 51:53.785 --> 51:56.286 Joining me today from New York, Daniel Griffin. 51:56.686 --> 51:57.647 Hello, everyone. 51:58.808 --> 52:01.689 I really can't see anything on your tie, so you'll have to tell me, or give me a clue. 52:01.749 --> 52:02.890 I just see blue and yellow. 52:03.210 --> 52:04.351 Okay, so yellow's good. 52:04.411 --> 52:08.313 So there are these golden grape-like clusters of bacteria. 52:08.513 --> 52:08.914 Streptococci. 52:10.946 --> 52:13.907 So say grapes in, what is it, Greek or Latin? 52:15.447 --> 52:16.008 Staph, is it? 52:16.048 --> 52:17.168 Staph, you got, yep, staph. 52:17.188 --> 52:18.908 But the streps were the grape-like clusters. 52:18.928 --> 52:24.530 The strep tends to be in strips, think of it that way, strepped in strips, like they'll be either diplococci or they'll be chains. 52:24.590 --> 52:26.070 At least I was gram-positive, right? 52:26.110 --> 52:27.251 Yeah, you got there. 52:28.431 --> 52:29.831 What was the diplococcus? 52:29.851 --> 52:30.732 That was an old name for what? 52:31.072 --> 52:32.112 For strepped pneumoniae. 52:32.732 --> 52:34.113 Diplococcus, and they change it to strep pneumonia. 52:34.253 --> 52:39.696 Yeah, and also, you know, meningitis, so Neisseria meningitidis also is a gram-negative Diplococci, so yeah. 52:40.037 --> 52:43.299 Okay, so we have Staphylococcus aureus on your tie today. 52:43.599 --> 52:52.765 Yes, and you know, I was going in this morning to Columbia, and we're going to discuss this man who had methicillin-sensitive Staph aureus bacteremia, but he, the terminology they like to use at Columbia is he eloped. 52:54.246 --> 52:59.389 He did not go and find a bride and skip the church, he just skipped the church, skipped the hospital, and headed out into the world, so. 53:00.489 --> 53:01.910 Hopefully he will make better decisions. 53:02.170 --> 53:03.950 Could you say he is sensitive or resistant? 53:04.191 --> 53:05.051 So sensitive, yes. 53:05.071 --> 53:08.812 We have the methicillin sensitive, the methicillin resistant staph aureus. 53:09.053 --> 53:09.813 Sensitive is good, right? 53:10.353 --> 53:13.234 It's good, but if you don't get any antibiotics, then it's not good. 53:13.254 --> 53:14.195 Yeah, then it's not going to matter, right? 53:14.615 --> 53:14.835 Yeah. 53:14.855 --> 53:14.895 OK. 53:14.915 --> 53:15.975 All right, let's jump in. 53:15.996 --> 53:16.716 We got a lot to cover today. 53:16.756 --> 53:17.716 Oops, they admitted something there. 53:17.736 --> 53:20.677 We'll start off with a quotation from Winston Churchill in a little while. 53:20.697 --> 53:21.938 It's kind of an admission, right? 53:22.058 --> 53:23.879 If you don't get antibiotics, you're in big trouble. 53:24.879 --> 53:28.721 But a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to put its pants on. 53:29.421 --> 53:31.902 And I can sort of picture Winston saying this. 53:33.102 --> 53:38.344 But we've had some issues recently, and I'm going to start off with that. 53:38.364 --> 53:45.146 I want to try to make sure when I'm covering things that people might consider political, I'm going to really focus on what is the science that people need to understand? 53:45.186 --> 53:46.167 What's the science that's out there? 53:46.447 --> 53:48.227 So I'm not really being political. 53:48.347 --> 53:52.889 I think if you want to participate in a democracy, it's important to be informed, and I'm going 53:53.189 --> 53:54.010 keep helping people. 53:54.830 --> 53:57.772 But let's start with, you know, should this continue to be an issue? 53:57.792 --> 54:06.517 I'm going to leave in a link to a CDC document, and this document addresses something that people have been chatting about recently in the document, which was taken down, but I've got a link here for you. 54:06.997 --> 54:10.620 Thimerosal containing vaccines and neurodevelopmental outcomes, review of the evidence. 54:11.480 --> 54:13.963 And this actually reviews the science on thimersol and vaccines. 54:14.304 --> 54:17.488 And just a few quotations, but I'm going to leave in a link so people can go, they can peruse. 54:18.028 --> 54:18.929 So what is the story? 54:18.969 --> 54:29.402 So thimersol is an ethyl mercury-containing compound that was used for decades in the United States as a preservative in multi-dose vials of vaccines and other products to prevent growth of harmful microbes such as bacteria and fungi. 54:29.802 --> 54:35.968 Under the FDA Modernization Act of 1997, the FDA conducted a comprehensive review of the use of thermosol in childhood vaccines. 54:36.368 --> 54:43.014 This review found no evidence of harm from the use of thermosol as a vaccine preservative other than local hypersensitivity reactions. 54:43.414 --> 54:49.480 In 1999, with input from the Public Health Service and other partners, FDA requested all vaccine manufacturers for plans to remove thermosol from vaccines. 54:49.900 --> 54:54.084 This was taken as a precautionary step, not due to evidence of harm, to reduce an infant's overall exposure to mercury, 54:54.424 --> 54:57.386 given that other environmental sources of mercury were challenging to eliminate. 54:57.766 --> 55:03.490 Now, if people listen to the recent ACIP meeting, they're kind of rehashing this same discussion 26 years later. 55:03.510 --> 55:06.772 So, 1999, they say, let's get a plan, let's get this out of there. 55:07.233 --> 55:13.217 Since 2001, for 24 years, all childhood vaccines licensed and recommended have been thimersol-free. 55:13.857 --> 55:14.017 Right? 55:14.457 --> 55:17.318 With the exception of some multi-dose formulations of influenza vaccines. 55:18.078 --> 55:25.960 Several vaccines used in the United States, for example, MMR, varicella, inactivated polio, pneumococcal conjugate, which we were just talking about, have never contained thimersal. 55:26.360 --> 55:30.681 I just want to like, when people bring up this argument, they think it's the thimersal, the mercury, and an MMR that causes autism. 55:31.361 --> 55:31.922 What thimersal? 55:31.942 --> 55:32.802 What mercury and MMR? 55:32.962 --> 55:33.142 Okay. 55:33.162 --> 55:33.462 What autism? 55:33.802 --> 55:35.603 Yeah, and you know. 55:35.663 --> 55:39.283 And so, I hope you can see that that is in it very succinctly. 55:40.684 --> 55:41.424 What autism? 55:43.342 --> 55:50.107 They have, without a doubt, in the minds of most people, discredited anybody who said it's the mercury in the vaccines. 55:50.167 --> 55:53.970 And of course, Bobby was doing the mercury in the fish, right? 55:54.611 --> 55:55.952 Doesn't make him anti-fish. 55:59.835 --> 56:01.756 I mean, that's actually where we are. 56:02.597 --> 56:04.318 This is this week in America. 56:05.279 --> 56:07.981 And like it or not, this is how we are being broken. 56:08.021 --> 56:13.065 And there's a million podcasts that are breaking us just on this one line. 56:15.011 --> 56:18.892 that anti-vax skepticism has been debunked. 56:19.772 --> 56:36.296 And they are magnificent with it because the old videos circulating around of Mary Holland and Brian Hooker and all of these people are carefully chosen to set these people up for a t-ball level home run. 56:37.816 --> 56:38.957 All you gotta do is swing. 56:40.617 --> 56:43.838 This is incredible because Paul Offit, of course, is doing it too. 56:48.295 --> 56:52.056 2025 season, 96% of all the flu shots in the U.S. 56:52.096 --> 56:54.076 were thimerosal-free. 56:54.096 --> 56:58.237 98% of federal vaccines procured through the Vaccines for Children, or 3017 program, thimerosal-free. 56:58.877 --> 57:06.599 A recent analysis from CDC's vaccine data link, because they're all worried about, oh, the pregnant women are getting this, only 0.3% of doses had thimerosal. 57:06.899 --> 57:09.359 So thimerosal was taken out of vaccines in the U.S. 57:09.379 --> 57:09.439 in 2001. 57:10.139 --> 57:13.100 MMR vaccines do not and never contain thimerosal in the U.S. 57:14.440 --> 57:22.483 Recently, this whole discussion, they spent like a whole bunch of our taxpayer dollars, you know, chatting about revisiting this, and then they had this, you know, thimersol, you know, vaccines not recommended. 57:22.743 --> 57:31.347 The WHO responded to the ACIP decisions, and they said, thimersol has been reviewed multiple times by multiple agencies, including WHO, and it's clear from the evidence that there is no evidence of harm from the use of thimersol. 57:31.627 --> 57:34.428 Dr. Katherine O'Brien from the WHO told reporters on Friday. 57:35.905 --> 57:36.946 It's just a show, Daniel. 57:36.966 --> 57:38.266 They just want to show that they're in charge. 57:39.247 --> 57:42.609 Yeah, I'm trying to figure out, like, you know, how is this a win when it wasn't a problem? 57:43.089 --> 57:45.591 The same arguments were, you know, 25 years ago. 57:45.611 --> 57:50.994 It's like, you know what, listen, it doesn't look like there's any issue here, but, you know, just to be on the safe side, let's, you know, get this out. 57:51.394 --> 57:58.218 There are just a few situations, like really in nursing homes, other areas, mostly overseas where thermosol might be used because there's a price point issue. 57:58.839 --> 58:00.199 You know, we're seeing, what, 0.3% of pregnant women? 58:01.520 --> 58:02.804 you know, so really not an issue there. 58:03.566 --> 58:07.637 He's really just telling you that this has been a national security priority for decades. 58:09.036 --> 58:17.559 The acceptance of intramuscular injection, a standard medical procedure, has been a national security priority for decades. 58:17.639 --> 58:24.922 Not that dissimilar to if you were working with livestock and you wanted to be sure that they weren't afraid of a chainsaw. 58:25.482 --> 58:34.846 When they were very young, you would bring out a chainsaw and run it every once in a while so that by the time that they grew up into very big cows, when they heard a chainsaw, they wouldn't run away. 58:36.610 --> 58:38.471 And that's what you're doing here right now. 58:38.551 --> 58:54.580 If you want to invert people's idea and the fear of needles and the understanding of who they are and how ridiculous it would be to allow something to stab into your arm, you got to work over decades. 58:55.220 --> 58:57.181 And you got to work over generations. 58:58.541 --> 59:09.552 We're talking about overcoming something that is antithetical to our biology and the fear and understanding of it has to be so complete that we just don't get it anymore. 59:09.612 --> 59:17.240 It's like if you needed people to be not afraid of snakes, it would take a lot of work and a lot of training. 59:17.984 --> 59:29.949 And you'd have to start with the adults and make sure that you had a whole generation of adults that could handle snakes and loved snakes and accepted that, well, everybody's got to go through this period of time where you have snakes in your backyard. 59:30.469 --> 59:31.770 And so you're going to have to pick one up. 59:32.390 --> 59:39.473 You're going to have to hold one for a little while, and you're going to have to be okay with it so that when you have kids, you can do the same thing with your kids. 59:45.799 --> 59:48.840 This is a very, very long con, ladies and gentlemen. 59:50.020 --> 59:53.041 I hate this message, but it is the truth. 59:54.541 --> 59:56.242 It is the truth as best I know it. 59:58.582 --> 01:00:07.804 And the fake health freedom movement that is essentially embodied best in Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Mary Holland, Brian Hooker, and CHD. 01:00:09.385 --> 01:00:10.565 These people are frauds. 01:00:13.089 --> 01:00:23.835 And they are fraud, they are frauds, but they are a part of, a genuine part of this national security operation that I think actually he is less aware of than they. 01:00:25.536 --> 01:00:35.421 That Daniel Griffin is a genuine doctor who believes genuinely that the books he's read and the facts that he remembers from those books are real. 01:00:36.361 --> 01:00:37.282 Because he's read the, 01:00:37.990 --> 01:00:40.813 two volumes of infectious diseases. 01:00:40.874 --> 01:00:42.956 He's read the two volumes of virology. 01:00:42.976 --> 01:00:47.662 He's read that big book on vaccines and used it as a reference for his whole career. 01:00:51.566 --> 01:00:52.888 And he's not a biologist. 01:00:57.189 --> 01:00:58.870 Children, it's not part of the vaccine schedule. 01:00:59.490 --> 01:01:02.391 It's sort of a problem for the, you know, I think I like the analogy of when the dog catches the car. 01:01:02.671 --> 01:01:03.752 Like, thimbersaw's gone. 01:01:03.772 --> 01:01:04.612 There's no mercury here. 01:01:05.232 --> 01:01:06.953 But you were telling us that it was causing all this autism. 01:01:07.033 --> 01:01:13.716 Autism, according to you guys, is rising 25 years of thimbersaw out of the vaccines and never even in the vaccine that you claim is the big concern of yours. 01:01:13.736 --> 01:01:15.977 So it's sort of a problem with the arguments here. 01:01:16.297 --> 01:01:19.780 Well, you know, he helped Americans by taking data. 01:01:19.820 --> 01:01:21.381 So there's two parts to that, right? 01:01:21.421 --> 01:01:28.547 The first one is, is that Mary Holland and Andrew Wakefield and Polly Tommy all said what? 01:01:30.469 --> 01:01:33.712 That it was the MMR that caused autism. 01:01:33.772 --> 01:01:38.736 The MMR shot is what, when my son suddenly changed. 01:01:40.771 --> 01:01:49.261 And so think about how remarkable it is that they are still stuck on that shot talking about that specific thing. 01:01:49.401 --> 01:01:50.402 It is a script. 01:01:51.824 --> 01:01:54.767 The MMR shot is connected to Texas this year. 01:01:54.827 --> 01:01:57.711 It's connected to Samoa before the pandemic. 01:01:57.771 --> 01:01:59.333 It's connected to Rolling Stone. 01:02:02.884 --> 01:02:05.905 This is all one malevolent show, one malevolent script. 01:02:06.025 --> 01:02:10.887 And because it's a script over so many years, it's really hard for us to see it. 01:02:12.428 --> 01:02:15.869 But not only do you have to try and imagine it, you have to try and accept it. 01:02:15.929 --> 01:02:21.152 Because before you do, you're not going to be able to take any meaningful action against it. 01:02:22.292 --> 01:02:23.573 Here's Mercury out of your vaccine. 01:02:23.613 --> 01:02:24.133 That's what he'll say. 01:02:24.513 --> 01:02:25.974 And people will be, oh, that's so lovely. 01:02:26.154 --> 01:02:26.674 It was already out. 01:02:26.854 --> 01:02:29.035 Basically, they were just like a tiny, you know, yeah. 01:02:30.151 --> 01:02:31.912 So a nice article in the Wall Street Journal, RFK Jr.' 01:02:31.892 --> 01:02:32.972 's vaccine panel has a new approach. 01:02:33.032 --> 01:02:33.792 Question everything. 01:02:33.872 --> 01:02:35.853 ACP is supposed to be a committee that looks at the evidence. 01:02:35.953 --> 01:02:38.314 Well, that evidence-based mandate was repeated several times during the meeting. 01:02:38.414 --> 01:02:41.575 One of the members of the committee was not really on board with making evidence-based recommendations. 01:02:41.615 --> 01:02:44.736 So this really is what had me sort of thrown. 01:02:45.017 --> 01:02:52.239 We heard from Retzov Levi, who voted against the new monoclonal antibody for RSV, that as a father, his outlook takes him beyond the science and data. 01:02:53.020 --> 01:02:54.040 MIT professor? 01:02:56.566 --> 01:03:06.674 On one of the panels organized by Senator Ron Johnson and Robert Malone and Kevin McKernan, he's scripted. 01:03:08.715 --> 01:03:18.643 He could also be just kind of naive, but he's definitely scripted because he's not skeptical of the foundational idea, therefore he doesn't understand. 01:03:19.564 --> 01:03:22.026 If you're not skeptical of intramuscular injection, 01:03:23.072 --> 01:03:30.134 as a methodology, then you are either scripted and you don't understand or you are scripted and you don't care. 01:03:30.334 --> 01:03:36.176 It's one or the other because that is the point we have been making for more than two years straight now. 01:03:39.317 --> 01:03:46.720 And it's a very significant point that quite frankly, all sides of this equation find necessary to ignore. 01:03:48.083 --> 01:03:55.805 That's why in all of the copying of my story that Sasha Latapova was done, she never really summarized it at the end. 01:03:55.845 --> 01:04:01.167 She didn't even say that gain of function is a fiction in that post, right? 01:04:01.227 --> 01:04:05.228 She just said that all these people don't like me because I'm so smart. 01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:07.801 She's so fraudulent. 01:04:08.682 --> 01:04:09.923 It's just kind of a joke. 01:04:10.443 --> 01:04:23.613 And if you look at all the some activity of her on those platforms, if you look at the some activity of Robert Malone and where they are and where they're posting and start keeping tracking of it, you can't, it's impossible. 01:04:25.638 --> 01:04:27.339 None of these people are real. 01:04:27.419 --> 01:04:33.141 They are weaponized images on a social media platform or platforms. 01:04:33.901 --> 01:04:43.665 And those weaponized images have confused the truth-seeking conservative right of America and fractured us into a million little pieces. 01:04:45.117 --> 01:04:55.249 And it's going to cost us our country if we don't pull our heads out, because the left is pretty unified on the fact that these people that we're cheering for are shitheads. 01:04:55.309 --> 01:04:56.190 And they're right. 01:04:56.971 --> 01:04:57.752 They're right. 01:05:00.367 --> 01:05:01.368 What the hell is he talking about? 01:05:01.669 --> 01:05:02.470 First of all, why is he on there? 01:05:03.431 --> 01:05:04.613 That's all you have to look at, the science and data. 01:05:04.633 --> 01:05:05.714 It makes no sense, Red Ceph. 01:05:05.734 --> 01:05:07.877 Yeah, I mean, we're asking for evidence-based recommendations. 01:05:07.997 --> 01:05:14.206 As a father trying to keep kids safe, including yours, the science, the evidence, this is what we look to. 01:05:14.226 --> 01:05:17.951 We don't look to, I don't know, the impression that you get from social media and some... 01:05:19.580 --> 01:05:24.744 So some, many, who work to provide vaccines already review the ACIP as a lost cause. 01:05:24.764 --> 01:05:29.267 The University of Minnesota is now home to a group working to make alternative recommendations, the Vaccine Integrity Project. 01:05:29.907 --> 01:05:35.010 And I'm going to read a quote here from Michael Osterholm, the epidemiologist who helps direct this project. 01:05:35.451 --> 01:05:41.595 The meeting served as further evidence that vaccine information and recommendations, at least temporarily, need a new independent home outside the US government. 01:05:43.226 --> 01:05:46.749 All right, now I've got a very disturbing but really good article. 01:05:46.849 --> 01:05:53.174 And so it's almost like the FDA is going to be dismantled or destroyed or made irrelevant. 01:05:54.335 --> 01:05:54.576 Right. 01:05:54.836 --> 01:05:58.099 Like Mark and I predicted, because Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.' 01:05:58.079 --> 01:06:11.370 's dad and Brett Weinstein's dad and Steve Bannon and and Aaron Siri and Goldman Sachs and and Peter Thiel and and Eric Weinstein and Elon Musk, it's all just kind of makes sense. 01:06:14.726 --> 01:06:19.747 America's being sold to the highest bidder, being fought over by the highest bidders. 01:06:19.847 --> 01:06:25.349 I don't know how to exactly characterize it, but we were the victims of an elaborate long con. 01:06:27.029 --> 01:06:37.712 Maybe because it's hard to keep a project like the Human Genome Project going continuously without people wanting to retire and then other people wanting to take control of the vacuum that's left. 01:06:38.652 --> 01:06:40.373 Maybe that's what we're witnessing right now. 01:06:41.073 --> 01:06:41.773 I don't really know. 01:06:42.509 --> 01:06:50.317 But I do know that none of the things that are being made to seem as though they are very interesting on social media are interesting at all. 01:06:50.517 --> 01:06:52.699 All the wrong questions are being amplified. 01:06:52.940 --> 01:06:55.062 All the actors are being amplified. 01:06:55.822 --> 01:06:58.325 All of the nonsense is circulating. 01:06:58.365 --> 01:07:01.308 There's nobody like me, Mark, and Joe. 01:07:03.187 --> 01:07:04.828 If you can only read one article, read this one. 01:07:05.448 --> 01:07:09.450 Top FDA official overrode scientists on COVID shots by Christina Jewett. 01:07:09.470 --> 01:07:10.951 So this deals with another issue. 01:07:11.411 --> 01:07:13.712 And so I'll just sort of give people some background, say, well, what is going on here? 01:07:13.992 --> 01:07:20.355 So the way it's supposed to work, and maybe this helps people with understanding, is that the FDA has these committees, these groups. 01:07:20.775 --> 01:07:22.276 And I'll be a number of experts on these. 01:07:22.336 --> 01:07:23.016 I'll go through the data. 01:07:23.036 --> 01:07:29.179 They prepare these really well-edited, well-thought-out, basically, reports that then go to the head of the FDA. 01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:33.640 So recently we had Novavax coming up for full licensing. 01:07:34.301 --> 01:07:36.722 So you've got multiple pages, really well written. 01:07:36.782 --> 01:07:38.882 Here's all the data on what's going on with COVID. 01:07:39.162 --> 01:07:44.684 It's really important to know how many people are dying, how many people are being hospitalized, how many people are ending up with issues after the fact. 01:07:46.385 --> 01:07:47.727 And then a lot of data on the vaccines. 01:07:47.767 --> 01:07:48.548 Does the vaccine work? 01:07:48.568 --> 01:07:49.770 Does the vaccine reduce deaths? 01:07:49.790 --> 01:07:50.932 Does it reduce hospitalizations? 01:07:51.012 --> 01:07:51.393 All the rest. 01:07:52.254 --> 01:07:54.598 So you end up with dozens of staff experts. 01:07:54.878 --> 01:07:55.940 They put together this report. 01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:58.584 And then the FDA gets to make a decision. 01:07:58.604 --> 01:08:01.027 Are we going to make this product available to the public or not? 01:08:01.528 --> 01:08:07.652 Now, there is one example where there was a particular product, it was felt to be a high-risk product, and the previous head of the FDA said, listen, there's no other options. 01:08:08.172 --> 01:08:16.197 We realize that this particular therapy might have a high risk of issues, but we want to give people a choice because otherwise this is a deadly disease. 01:08:16.237 --> 01:08:17.738 I forget which, it was a neurodegenerative disease. 01:08:18.659 --> 01:08:21.100 And so that was sort of the only precedent we have in the past. 01:08:21.361 --> 01:08:23.182 But the FDA is there to make a decision, license or not. 01:08:23.322 --> 01:08:26.384 Not, oh, we're going to license it, but then I'm only going to decide who gets access. 01:08:26.404 --> 01:08:27.785 I'm going to make everyone else use it off-license. 01:08:28.665 --> 01:08:37.348 Vinay Prasad for Novavax and the new Moderna mRNA COVID vaccine is basically going to override, he's going to reject the recommendations of his staff. 01:08:37.368 --> 01:08:50.774 So this article really outlines how Vinay Prasad, the appointed FDA administration's top vaccine official, rejected broad uses of two COVID vaccines, citing unknown risks or injuries despite assurances of safety from dozens of staff experts. 01:08:50.794 --> 01:08:52.294 So what was my reaction? 01:08:52.814 --> 01:08:54.155 So my reaction was that I 01:08:54.375 --> 01:09:02.439 It is a dark time in the history of public health when political appointees overrule expert recommendations, pick and choose data to support their ideology, and use their position to advance personal agendas. 01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:09.963 I actually read, so I read the reports by the experts, and then I read these really poorly put together memos by Vinay Prasad. 01:09:09.983 --> 01:09:17.346 I say poorly put together, like at one point you're trying to figure out why does this sentence have these two footnotes that seem to be referencing Vinay Prasad's opinion piece twice. 01:09:17.846 --> 01:09:20.708 The reason it's confusing is it's actually a cut and paste sentence from another memo. 01:09:21.388 --> 01:09:30.434 So he's not even properly having his memos proofed on something as serious as restricting access to these vaccines and forcing those who may want to access those to have to do it. 01:09:30.814 --> 01:09:42.482 What I'm suggesting to you is that these are not by accident, just like the accidental inclusion of seemingly AI generated citations in their other reports is not by accident. 01:09:43.843 --> 01:09:45.244 This is done on purpose. 01:09:46.158 --> 01:09:51.465 with the idea of making it seem like the whole FDA is just useless. 01:09:52.887 --> 01:09:54.309 And it's not only them, right? 01:09:54.350 --> 01:09:56.192 This is ongoing. 01:09:57.013 --> 01:10:00.158 Today, the FDA had a live event that would shock you. 01:10:01.428 --> 01:10:16.900 bragging about how the research scientists and the back checkers and the people that work at the FDA are going to be using an AI to do all kinds of shit now, including modeling of things so that they don't have to do toxicity with animals anymore. 01:10:17.440 --> 01:10:19.342 It is remarkable where we are. 01:10:20.831 --> 01:10:27.494 Because the inversion of our sovereignty to experimental animal status is happening fast. 01:10:27.674 --> 01:10:28.174 Off-label. 01:10:28.674 --> 01:10:36.498 So one of the things I commented on is that the memos did not really acknowledge the fact that myocarditis is occurring at a rate 01:10:37.058 --> 01:10:46.061 I say six to 16, seven to 16, but really basically to say, if you get vaccinated, you are going to reduce your risk of myocarditis tenfold because people keep getting COVID. 01:10:46.281 --> 01:10:54.324 There's a very high rate of myocarditis, or I should say tenfold higher rate of myocarditis if you get COVID without the protection of a vaccine than if you get the protection of the vaccine. 01:10:54.364 --> 01:11:00.586 So if you really want to lower the risk of myocarditis, as I like to point out, in the population with ongoing COVID cases, vaccination is safer than not vaccinating. 01:11:00.945 --> 01:11:04.147 Well, Dr. Prasad, the expert, of course, says there's no COVID anymore, so it doesn't matter. 01:11:04.207 --> 01:11:04.847 We don't need to do this. 01:11:04.887 --> 01:11:05.488 Is that true, Daniel? 01:11:05.908 --> 01:11:06.448 So it's interesting. 01:11:06.729 --> 01:11:13.393 He acknowledges that COVID is out there, and then there's going to be a piece I'm going to really talk about, I'm going to return back to myocarditis next time, because he does sort of go through it. 01:11:13.413 --> 01:11:15.514 He says, you know, we were seeing myocarditis, and he actually gives the rates. 01:11:15.554 --> 01:11:17.515 It's sort of this 22 to 65 per million. 01:11:19.756 --> 01:11:27.601 I think, again, the most important thing to see here is that these scripted people are scripted to talk about the other scripted people. 01:11:27.901 --> 01:11:30.243 And so you can see that it's a play. 01:11:31.377 --> 01:11:33.357 That's why these guys are on social media. 01:11:33.377 --> 01:11:37.058 They're not on social media spontaneously choosing to talk about them. 01:11:37.758 --> 01:11:43.539 They are scripted to talk about them because those people are scripted to be talked about. 01:11:46.220 --> 01:11:49.041 And the whole time, nobody's talking about the CDC director. 01:11:49.061 --> 01:11:55.002 In a minute, these guys are gonna hope that the CDC director will ignore the recommendations of the ACIP. 01:11:55.442 --> 01:12:00.903 And from her nomination interview, it would seem that that's the case. 01:12:02.418 --> 01:12:06.279 first rolled out the mRNA vaccines, and particularly in this population 15 to 25. 01:12:07.739 --> 01:12:14.481 Then he says, and so when this was first seen, the response was to space out the vaccine so that the doses, instead of giving three to four weeks, we're giving three months apart. 01:12:14.801 --> 01:12:20.082 So he does acknowledge, and I think he's trying to get published, that we're really not seeing post-vaccination myocarditis anymore. 01:12:20.682 --> 01:12:21.163 So that's interesting. 01:12:21.183 --> 01:12:22.843 So he points out, he goes, so we're not really seeing it anymore. 01:12:22.863 --> 01:12:24.503 So it's not really an issue, but I'm still worried about it. 01:12:24.943 --> 01:12:26.964 Now, we're certainly still seeing post-COVID myocarditis. 01:12:27.464 --> 01:12:30.625 So here's a safe, effective vaccine, which, 01:12:31.525 --> 01:12:37.249 We're not really seeing the myocarditis anymore now that we've spaced out the vaccines, but yet he wants to not let us have access. 01:12:37.269 --> 01:12:40.992 So I'm going to return to this weird myocarditis thing that they keep sort of returning to. 01:12:41.052 --> 01:12:44.254 The access, you're talking about people under 65 and pregnant women no longer have access. 01:12:44.314 --> 01:12:44.975 Is that correct? 01:12:45.135 --> 01:12:46.196 So with Novavax, for instance. 01:12:46.216 --> 01:12:50.939 So Novavax has been the vaccine that I've actually chosen to go with and my family's gone with for the last sort of several cycles. 01:12:50.959 --> 01:12:52.140 And now we hear it's going to be licensed. 01:12:52.160 --> 01:12:52.440 That's great. 01:12:52.480 --> 01:12:54.001 I'm a health care worker, constantly exposed. 01:12:54.462 --> 01:12:58.205 If I want to get a Novavax shot in the fall, that will actually have to be off-label. 01:12:58.945 --> 01:13:03.666 Yeah, he basically said, we're going to license Novavax, but we're not going to license it for Dr. Griffin, who's under 65. 01:13:04.106 --> 01:13:10.128 I did go out, remember I told you this, I went out and I bought cigarettes and I inhaled a couple of times, so now I can claim to be a former smoker and I have to get access. 01:13:11.168 --> 01:13:18.890 No, but that's what, yeah, we were actually, a number of healthcare workers, we were talking about this today, the fact that, yeah, if we want to use Novavax because we want to have less reactogenicity or whatever, no. 01:13:19.030 --> 01:13:24.591 And then the new Moderna vaccine, which there are some evidence suggesting that it might actually be a little more effective than the old Moderna COVID vaccine. 01:13:24.871 --> 01:13:27.612 Again, if we want to do that to protect ourselves, it will be off-label. 01:13:28.933 --> 01:13:30.083 I don't understand his motivation there. 01:13:30.264 --> 01:13:30.486 At all. 01:13:30.587 --> 01:13:31.051 Makes no sense. 01:13:32.152 --> 01:13:32.993 It does make no sense. 01:13:33.233 --> 01:13:35.915 And unfortunately, this is probably the trope that got him in this position. 01:13:35.955 --> 01:13:42.499 He's got all these interesting ideas, epidemiology ideas about this healthy vaccine bias and why he can't trust any of the data. 01:13:42.839 --> 01:13:44.200 But he's an oncologist. 01:13:44.541 --> 01:13:46.682 He's not a vaccine expert. 01:13:46.722 --> 01:13:50.745 And so it's really, as I said, it's a dark time when you've got this political appointee. 01:13:50.985 --> 01:13:53.166 He's got his own ideology, his own agenda. 01:13:53.427 --> 01:13:57.849 And then even when you present him with, really, here's all the evidence, here's the science, you try to explain it to him, he's like, I don't care. 01:13:58.150 --> 01:13:58.790 I've already made up my mind. 01:13:58.810 --> 01:13:59.310 I made up my mind. 01:14:00.231 --> 01:14:02.972 four years ago when we first saw the myocarditis and it ain't changing you know. 01:14:04.393 --> 01:14:18.958 Now what we where we need to get is to the point where our high school teachers and our high school students can look at this man or sit across from this man or be in the chat of this show and say that actually you're wrong. 01:14:20.498 --> 01:14:24.601 It is, and let me rewind it just a little bit to make sure that I say it correctly. 01:14:24.842 --> 01:14:26.783 His own, you know, ideology, his own agenda. 01:14:27.023 --> 01:14:31.407 And then even when you present him with really, here's all the evidence, here's the science, you try to explain it to him, he's like, I don't care. 01:14:32.107 --> 01:14:39.453 And so the idea would be to challenge them to give you the science that shows the things that they are certain about. 01:14:41.455 --> 01:14:50.042 And what, one of the things that they need to show you is the science about why intramuscular injection is such a great methodology. 01:14:52.173 --> 01:14:52.813 Explain it. 01:14:53.734 --> 01:14:58.337 Why does it work better than subcutaneous injection of the same antigen combination? 01:14:58.377 --> 01:15:02.799 Why does it work better than inhaling the vaporized version of the same antigen combination? 01:15:03.400 --> 01:15:07.142 Why does it work better intramuscular injection versus a pill? 01:15:07.602 --> 01:15:09.063 What's the difference between those? 01:15:09.143 --> 01:15:10.204 Talk to me, goose. 01:15:10.784 --> 01:15:12.065 Tell me what you know. 01:15:13.366 --> 01:15:16.588 That's how you challenge your family and friends to realize 01:15:18.047 --> 01:15:29.016 what they themselves don't know, but they are very certain about for some reason, because that's a sign of skilled social media use, that you don't actually know, but you're certain about it. 01:15:31.398 --> 01:15:42.747 And if it's about like, you know, what the best basketball team is in the NBA, because you're just certain that the Celtics are the best team, because you're from Boston, that's very different than what I'm talking about. 01:15:42.787 --> 01:15:44.989 I'm talking about people being certain about 01:15:46.025 --> 01:15:48.666 RNA being able to pandemic, but they can't explain it. 01:15:50.587 --> 01:15:58.211 When you challenge them to explain why RNA can pandemic better than DNA, can you explain it to me? 01:16:00.753 --> 01:16:10.898 If you ask them to explain how intramuscular injection augments the immune system, depending on the combination of substances you choose, they won't really be able to explain it to you. 01:16:10.938 --> 01:16:15.340 They'll have a hand-waving version of it, which involves a very limited 01:16:17.151 --> 01:16:31.492 number of moving parts and it is only through six years of work that I'm able to show you this that these people are so malevolent and the script is so bad 01:16:32.964 --> 01:16:42.815 that I could go right now and pick up those six books and scream just like I did for Paul Offit, you don't have the requisite knowledge to argue with these people, because you haven't read these thousands of pages. 01:16:42.875 --> 01:16:47.601 And more importantly, you don't accept these thousands of pages as fact. 01:16:49.184 --> 01:17:05.975 when in fact there's very little empirical evidence for such a high-fidelity understanding of what is essentially a genetic background that's irreducibly complex and the only tools that we have to reduce that complexity or to measure that complexity are very flawed. 01:17:08.977 --> 01:17:11.338 And they're all part of the Human Genome Project illusion. 01:17:12.239 --> 01:17:15.761 That whole core molecular biology illusion 01:17:17.828 --> 01:17:19.332 is the Human Genome Project. 01:17:19.352 --> 01:17:22.118 I've already made up my mind. 01:17:22.138 --> 01:17:26.026 I made up my mind four years ago when we first saw the myocarditis and it ain't changing. 01:17:26.166 --> 01:17:27.870 Unbelievable. 01:17:29.031 --> 01:17:47.664 So what's going to be a challenge here is they're sort of trying to get things right, you know, sort of up ahead, because what had happened in response to the recent ACIP meeting is, you know, a lot of the professional societies like the American Academy of Pediatrics, American Academy of Family Physicians, American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, you know, they actually posted, hey, here are our recommendations. 01:17:47.684 --> 01:17:56.450 The AAP, for instance, has been doing this for decades upon decades, but now it's going to create a problem because how do you create guidance if you've got the head of the FDA, you know, not fully licensing these vaccines? 01:17:58.621 --> 01:18:03.524 All right, but fortunately, vaccine-preventable illnesses are not a problem in the US, turning to measles. 01:18:04.244 --> 01:18:05.825 I say that with tongue-in-cheek because, ouch. 01:18:06.665 --> 01:18:12.289 The article assessing the transmissibility and outbreak risk of measles in the United States, 2024 to 2030, was published in JID. 01:18:12.649 --> 01:18:15.610 So here, these authors are really asking this question, like, do we have to worry? 01:18:15.931 --> 01:18:18.032 Is there potentially going to be a measles outbreak in the US? 01:18:18.812 --> 01:18:19.432 Interesting question. 01:18:19.853 --> 01:18:28.016 So here the investigators assess the local transmissibility and outbreak risk at present and in future years under various vaccination scenarios in the United States. 01:18:28.856 --> 01:18:32.758 They looked at the, I love this, spatio-temporal outbreak risk pattern. 01:18:33.498 --> 01:18:34.718 And we've got projections through 2030. 01:18:34.919 --> 01:18:38.760 And really, really some nice figures here. 01:18:39.280 --> 01:18:48.184 So you can see based kind of where we are, and then with a 10% or a more significant drop in the vaccination coverage, what's going to happen within five or two years based upon that. 01:18:48.804 --> 01:18:55.149 And so if it declines by 10%, you can see basically you're really starting to go up 25% and then 50%. 01:18:55.189 --> 01:19:01.814 So yeah, not looking good, not looking good if this vaccination erodes even further. 01:19:02.434 --> 01:19:09.860 And it's gotten to the point now, Vincent, where if you are a US traveler and you go to, for instance, Honduras, you have to actually bring your proof of vaccination before entry. 01:19:10.120 --> 01:19:11.401 Gosh, I don't, I got mine in the 60s. 01:19:11.541 --> 01:19:12.942 I don't know where people get it. 01:19:13.182 --> 01:19:14.983 Now, proof of measles vaccination. 01:19:15.024 --> 01:19:18.326 I'm going to skip to the end of this video so you can hear one of the questions they answer. 01:19:18.346 --> 01:19:20.027 The whole video is pretty remarkable. 01:19:20.247 --> 01:19:22.409 It's really making fun of our side a lot. 01:19:23.409 --> 01:19:29.514 Catherine Organic asked the question of would would good PCR controls show the background effect? 01:19:30.555 --> 01:19:38.040 And I guess your question is, if we tried hard enough, could we start to characterize that background? 01:19:38.100 --> 01:19:39.061 And I do think 01:19:40.366 --> 01:19:56.343 that they have made some genuine efforts to do that in other branches of biology in the characterization of phytoplankton and the cyanobacteria and archaeobacteria, archaea. 01:19:58.663 --> 01:20:00.325 They're kind of like related to bacteria. 01:20:00.365 --> 01:20:01.887 Those guys are all in the ocean. 01:20:02.207 --> 01:20:04.069 And so that work has been done. 01:20:04.269 --> 01:20:09.194 And the phages that have been found there are, I think, probably mostly real. 01:20:09.274 --> 01:20:20.965 But again, they're doing a lot more rigorous work to show the existence of, rather than quantifying or claiming that some larger phenomenon is based on them. 01:20:23.917 --> 01:20:38.400 I think the extraordinary thing that has been done with PCR from the perspective of diagnostic is that it has allowed the willing doctor to completely bamboozle themselves. 01:20:38.500 --> 01:20:49.762 If you say, okay, this person is sick, and my name is Mary Talley Bowden, and I'm going to use this PCR test to test you for 17 different viruses, and one of them comes back positive, 01:20:50.583 --> 01:21:03.083 The odds of you saying that that has nothing to do with your symptoms would be probably very low, depending on your sophistication, depending on how often you use it, depending on how you're perceived. 01:21:03.945 --> 01:21:04.746 How shall I say it? 01:21:05.543 --> 01:21:08.724 your perceived role in the diagnosis of that patient. 01:21:08.844 --> 01:21:20.848 If your role in that patient from your training perspective is to follow a flow chart and an assumption chart, and one of those things on the assumption chart is now this PCR diagnostic, then you're done. 01:21:21.188 --> 01:21:21.969 You're just in it. 01:21:23.069 --> 01:21:26.510 And with regard to doctors working in hospitals, that's all you've got. 01:21:26.590 --> 01:21:33.012 Unless you're a private practice kind of doctor with your own set of patients, you're working for a hospital. 01:21:33.052 --> 01:21:34.513 You're working for a corporation. 01:21:35.697 --> 01:21:37.218 And so you're following protocols. 01:21:37.258 --> 01:21:38.219 You don't get a choice. 01:21:42.022 --> 01:21:42.282 Fine. 01:21:42.302 --> 01:21:46.946 Now, I think there will be some, you know, you're old enough that you're before a certain day that that will count for someone like you. 01:21:46.986 --> 01:21:52.971 But, you know, a young pup like myself to somehow get my vaccine records if I want to go visit Honduras. 01:21:52.991 --> 01:21:56.774 So according to the secretary of state at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation, Honduran 01:21:57.154 --> 01:22:01.638 Authorities are requiring documentation to show proof of life was published in the journal OBGYN. 01:22:02.298 --> 01:22:08.564 And this is a cohort study among pregnant individuals enrolled in Kaiser Permanente's Northern California KPNC and their infants. 01:22:09.284 --> 01:22:15.690 They followed all infants from birth until the first occurrence of a PCR result positive for flu or the infants reach six months, right? 01:22:16.030 --> 01:22:17.911 So we're looking at looking at little kids for six months. 01:22:17.931 --> 01:22:19.673 They're not eligible for flu vaccination yet. 01:22:19.973 --> 01:22:23.056 So this is where if mom gets vaccinated, she might protect the little kids. 01:22:23.696 --> 01:22:32.544 They compared the hazard of getting flu in infants whose mothers were vaccinated during pregnancy compared to those mothers who did not get vaccinated and did not potentially provide this protection to their children. 01:22:32.964 --> 01:22:38.689 So 245,498 infants included in the study, 46% were born to vaccinated moms, about half there. 01:22:39.129 --> 01:22:41.151 The incidence of influenza was lower among infants. 01:22:41.291 --> 01:22:43.792 And so they looked at nothing else but influenza. 01:22:43.812 --> 01:22:45.373 You see how ridiculous it is? 01:22:45.453 --> 01:22:46.014 This is fun. 01:22:46.314 --> 01:22:47.795 I'm going to play the end of this video. 01:22:48.035 --> 01:22:50.676 Linnea writes, long time Twiv listener from Alberta, Canada. 01:22:50.756 --> 01:22:54.218 Really appreciate your work explaining the lies about vaccines being spread by the current administration. 01:22:54.378 --> 01:22:59.501 Because they have spread to Canada, the Alberta provincial government has decided to become inspired by the RFK Jr. 01:22:59.521 --> 01:23:00.642 recommendations for COVID vaccines. 01:23:00.862 --> 01:23:05.165 And now COVID vaccines are no longer going to be free for most people, including health care workers, as of August. 01:23:06.125 --> 01:23:08.386 In the press release, they included some quick facts to defend her decision. 01:23:08.726 --> 01:23:09.127 Listen to this. 01:23:09.187 --> 01:23:11.368 Recently, the Federal Drug Administration in the U.S. 01:23:11.448 --> 01:23:13.669 There's no such thing, right, as the federal drug. 01:23:13.689 --> 01:23:15.050 It's the Food and Drug Administration. 01:23:15.430 --> 01:23:17.151 Even Canadian officials can't get it right. 01:23:17.591 --> 01:23:20.433 Stop recommending COVID vaccines for pregnant women and healthy children. 01:23:20.733 --> 01:23:21.533 And back to Linnea. 01:23:21.833 --> 01:23:24.675 It's horrifying and appreciate your work dismantling the lies more than ever right now. 01:23:24.715 --> 01:23:32.679 Not sure how to manage the situation, but along with alarming amount of measles outbreaks, it's arrived here in Alberta and isn't going away anytime soon with our current anti-science provincial government. 01:23:33.908 --> 01:23:35.129 Yeah, no, it's really disturbing. 01:23:35.169 --> 01:23:35.830 And it is challenging. 01:23:35.850 --> 01:23:37.191 And we're going to keep communicating. 01:23:37.211 --> 01:23:38.112 We're going to keep walking through this. 01:23:38.132 --> 01:23:39.274 We're going to keep providing the facts. 01:23:40.335 --> 01:23:44.199 You know, there are the people out there that they know that these things are untrue. 01:23:44.219 --> 01:23:47.302 But you can make a lot of money off getting someone to buy your nutraceuticals. 01:23:47.342 --> 01:23:53.008 You can get a lot of money getting that person selling nutraceuticals to pay you to get up on stage and say anti-science, anti-vaccine things. 01:23:53.048 --> 01:23:56.331 So fortunately, there's a multi-billion dollar industry driving this. 01:23:57.472 --> 01:24:03.888 We're not a multi-billion dollar industry where we're going to continue to stand firm to our oaths and our principles and keep communicating the actual information. 01:24:04.471 --> 01:24:05.492 And finally, supply rights. 01:24:05.972 --> 01:24:07.773 Been listening to you and the crew since mid-2019. 01:24:07.813 --> 01:24:08.294 Love it all. 01:24:08.734 --> 01:24:10.635 Question, when I started college, I had no vaccination records. 01:24:10.935 --> 01:24:14.878 I received a measles shot on December 9th, and then again on December 12th from the health clinic. 01:24:15.438 --> 01:24:15.819 Same year. 01:24:16.859 --> 01:24:17.680 Based on everything I've heard. 01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:18.660 Three days later, right, Dan? 01:24:18.681 --> 01:24:20.101 Yeah, I'm trying to figure out, was it the same one? 01:24:20.121 --> 01:24:20.682 What's the story? 01:24:20.862 --> 01:24:23.604 This doesn't follow any kind of recommended cases. 01:24:23.764 --> 01:24:34.131 They're joking about a college student who was coerced by his health center at the university to take an MMR shot, but then he took it twice. 01:24:35.928 --> 01:24:36.848 three days apart. 01:24:39.429 --> 01:24:59.495 We are letting our children go back to universities where this is happening all over our country, where the health regulations of university are determined by shitheads like this, who are completely on narrative and only opposed by shitheads like Mary Holland and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who can be laughed at by these people. 01:25:04.454 --> 01:25:06.555 Beta cells had a chance to mature between shots. 01:25:06.575 --> 01:25:09.375 I don't know what the beta cells, the B cells. 01:25:09.676 --> 01:25:11.816 It seems like I should get another one, but it has been 11 years. 01:25:12.576 --> 01:25:13.497 Already missing Dixon. 01:25:13.517 --> 01:25:15.717 Going back to listen to all his jazz recommendations here. 01:25:15.877 --> 01:25:17.118 Two dose series, at least four weeks apart. 01:25:17.678 --> 01:25:18.318 Oh, I can't deal. 01:25:18.498 --> 01:25:19.639 I can't deal with that anymore. 01:25:19.659 --> 01:25:20.839 We're going to get rid of that one. 01:25:20.899 --> 01:25:22.759 You should actually figure out what that vaccine was. 01:25:22.979 --> 01:25:24.200 OK, so it's the measles in three days. 01:25:24.780 --> 01:25:27.341 We're going to get rid of that one and we're going to move on. 01:25:27.961 --> 01:25:30.102 And so I'm trying to make this point clear, right? 01:25:30.202 --> 01:25:30.782 I really, 01:25:31.582 --> 01:25:37.069 I really think it's worth spending time understanding that these people are all scripted frauds. 01:25:37.109 --> 01:25:39.813 They're all scripted frauds. 01:25:39.853 --> 01:25:48.764 There's no reason to consider them in any other way other than as scripted frauds, just like Robert Malone is a scripted fraud. 01:25:52.623 --> 01:25:54.746 And there's no other way to describe him. 01:25:54.826 --> 01:25:56.148 He is a scripted fraud. 01:25:57.229 --> 01:26:04.438 His claim that he was used to spread lies is just ridiculous, but he's actually the coordinator of these lies. 01:26:04.599 --> 01:26:09.265 I do not make this accusation lightly that he is one of the worst Americans alive. 01:26:10.444 --> 01:26:20.051 And I do not make the accusation lightly about Sasha Latapova or Jessica Hockett or the foreigners, Jonathan Engler and Nick Hudson. 01:26:20.131 --> 01:26:22.733 These are some of the worst frauds on the internet. 01:26:24.034 --> 01:26:40.005 These people should be ashamed of themselves, but they're so happy with the fame and fortune that they get from this grift that they're fine with it because they know something else is coming in the future and they know they're positioning themselves and their family better than they would have otherwise be positioned. 01:26:44.102 --> 01:26:47.844 I don't think this guy's very smart, but he definitely likes being in front of a camera. 01:26:47.884 --> 01:26:49.324 He likes to have fancy suits. 01:26:49.364 --> 01:26:51.805 He likes to have the staff and be the star. 01:26:52.426 --> 01:26:53.886 And so he's easy to use too. 01:26:56.567 --> 01:27:00.709 But these are seriously scripted bullshitters on a bullshit script. 01:27:01.669 --> 01:27:03.150 That's why I have these pictures. 01:27:03.410 --> 01:27:04.611 I chased them all down. 01:27:05.351 --> 01:27:12.334 I tried to teach them all this simple biology and they all ran away, including our health and human services secretary right here. 01:27:14.918 --> 01:27:17.941 Including this guy, Aseem Malhotra. 01:27:17.981 --> 01:27:21.625 Including this guy, Paul Alexander, who came to my house. 01:27:21.665 --> 01:27:23.046 That picture's in my house. 01:27:24.508 --> 01:27:26.450 Including this guy who came to Pittsburgh. 01:27:28.692 --> 01:27:33.777 Including this guy that I saw at a CHD thing and he couldn't barely stand to take a picture with me. 01:27:34.357 --> 01:27:36.700 Including this guy, too, at a CHD thing. 01:27:38.857 --> 01:27:40.319 And yeah, I've lost a lot of people. 01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:45.026 One of the most important to me is my best friend, Nathan. 01:27:46.428 --> 01:27:48.471 But you know, I got lots of pictures with this dude. 01:27:50.474 --> 01:27:51.876 And that's not by accident. 01:27:54.079 --> 01:28:01.748 They thought that the way that they could control me would be by recruiting me to be part of that Wuhan cover-up book, the lab leak thing. 01:28:01.788 --> 01:28:07.614 And that's why in the introduction, when you listen to the introduction that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:28:07.654 --> 01:28:15.443 gives to me in the presence of Robert Malone, Meryl Nass, Tess Laurie, and Jessica Rose, that introduction is flattery. 01:28:18.194 --> 01:28:25.899 And it is a script where, you know, I spoke out about the intelligence agencies and their role in gain-of-function science, as we call it. 01:28:27.360 --> 01:28:28.600 That's scripted bullshit. 01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:36.325 They're trying to inflate my ego and to make me sort of put the t-shirt on that says, yeah, it was a lab leak and I'm the one who figured it out. 01:28:36.445 --> 01:28:37.826 I'm a drastic guy. 01:28:39.397 --> 01:28:40.939 That's what they desperately wanted. 01:28:40.999 --> 01:28:43.441 That's why that my name is in the book like that. 01:28:43.521 --> 01:28:45.524 That's why the quotes are in the book like that. 01:28:45.564 --> 01:28:47.886 And what I'm telling you was, is that it failed. 01:28:48.607 --> 01:28:55.815 The bullshit script failed at a crucial time when they actually put all their eggs in that basket and left me in the book. 01:28:57.284 --> 01:29:01.125 And it went to print and it now exists and they can't change it anymore. 01:29:01.205 --> 01:29:06.087 Even though I'm telling you that book is bullshit and they knew it before they published it. 01:29:06.627 --> 01:29:11.949 And the people that are listed in the acknowledgements page of that book know it's bullshit because I taught them all. 01:29:13.409 --> 01:29:14.730 So it's not just me. 01:29:14.830 --> 01:29:22.132 It's a bunch of people that are coordinating their lying and continuing to read the script provided by Robert Malone. 01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:27.201 That's why this is so important. 01:29:28.941 --> 01:29:30.802 What he says here is damning. 01:29:31.722 --> 01:29:36.564 This is not an introduction of some biologist who got, who figured out the clones. 01:29:36.664 --> 01:29:38.985 Society to biology to science. 01:29:40.066 --> 01:29:44.807 And to look at my eyes, the whole kind of idea of empiricism and integrity. 01:29:45.688 --> 01:29:46.308 Listen to this. 01:29:46.388 --> 01:29:49.169 Each of us is incredible preeminent. 01:29:50.472 --> 01:29:55.933 that we have each one of you is gonna get a chance to comment on his thesis. 01:29:56.213 --> 01:30:02.354 I wanted to bring everybody together because I've read Jonathan's thoughts about this. 01:30:02.394 --> 01:30:07.955 He's one of the most thoughtful critics of the pandemic management from the beginning. 01:30:08.655 --> 01:30:16.937 He was one of the co-founders of DRASTIC, which was the organization of independent scientists all over the world. 01:30:18.457 --> 01:30:37.202 particularly at the beginning of the pandemic, did really wonderful work in... Look at all those sponsorships of all those places that all those people are making money from, Substack, making money from promoting themselves, selling their supplements, going on their shows, touring the world as part of the COVID Summit show. 01:30:39.782 --> 01:30:46.984 As soon as I figured it out, all of those people left me behind, fired me, started ignoring me. 01:30:48.123 --> 01:30:49.844 And Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:30:49.884 --> 01:31:00.993 I don't think is smart enough or sophisticated enough to understand how all these people are coordinating their effort to obfuscate what I've taught him and what I offer as a way out. 01:31:01.973 --> 01:31:07.878 How I expose the no virus people as the same fraud as Mary Holland, but he doesn't, he can't take that. 01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:12.242 He never wanted a part of this vaccine thing in the first place. 01:31:13.322 --> 01:31:21.187 In understanding the science, in unearthing scientific studies that made a lot of this stuff comprehensible. 01:31:22.508 --> 01:31:38.798 And he's also been instrumental in uncovering some of the involvement of the intelligence agencies and others in the management of the pandemic and also the long history of 01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:42.365 what we call gain-of-function science. 01:31:44.149 --> 01:31:44.770 There you have it. 01:31:45.372 --> 01:31:46.975 And Tess Laurie pushes ivermectin. 01:31:46.995 --> 01:31:50.062 What you're told by people who have vested interests. 01:31:50.692 --> 01:31:52.513 in reducing global population. 01:31:53.154 --> 01:32:02.579 The other thing that concerns me at the moment is the, well, I think things like carbon dioxide in the atmosphere being used as modalities. 01:32:02.739 --> 01:32:12.005 Now what I'm suggesting to you is that this man is essentially guilty of some crime and participating in the exact same scripted illusion that 01:32:13.016 --> 01:32:18.799 that Brian Hooker and Mary Holland and Meryl Nass and Robert Malone make possible in America. 01:32:19.419 --> 01:32:22.040 He is the other side of, he's with Aseem Malhotra. 01:32:23.201 --> 01:32:28.803 This guy is with all of them and this guy is one of the worst people in the UK. 01:32:28.903 --> 01:32:37.047 He is a fraud and he's responsible for so many people having taken AstraZeneca and so many people having taken the mRNA. 01:32:37.167 --> 01:32:39.908 He should be off the internet and ashamed of himself. 01:32:40.862 --> 01:32:43.163 But here he is talking about depopulation. 01:32:43.203 --> 01:32:51.465 Now it's impossible for him not to have known that since the end of World War II, these people have been working to reduce family size. 01:32:51.505 --> 01:32:56.607 It's impossible for him not to know that people only live to be about a hundred. 01:32:56.747 --> 01:32:58.388 And so it's a hundred year thing. 01:32:58.428 --> 01:33:05.290 You know, you don't need to worry about the population getting out of control if you've changed the size of families. 01:33:06.246 --> 01:33:07.927 and they were successful in doing that. 01:33:08.347 --> 01:33:24.835 There's no way that that guy doesn't know about the anticipated rise in all-cause mortality codified in the population pyramid, visible in this simple graph, and how it could be sculpted using manslaughter and lies to create the illusion of a pandemic. 01:33:24.895 --> 01:33:29.558 It's impossible that they don't see that that signal is not natural. 01:33:30.745 --> 01:33:37.451 And it's impossible that they don't understand that that was a problem incoming for decades, unless they're willfully ignorant. 01:33:37.471 --> 01:33:38.612 They're just, they don't care. 01:33:41.895 --> 01:33:44.136 That's why none of these people have come up with a list. 01:33:44.217 --> 01:33:46.378 That's why none of these people have come up with a list. 01:33:46.418 --> 01:33:47.840 That's why this is fraudulent. 01:33:47.920 --> 01:33:51.743 Billions of dollars of revenue for the pharmaceutical industry. 01:33:52.563 --> 01:33:54.524 So there's big money at stake here. 01:33:54.584 --> 01:33:56.145 There's big policy at stake. 01:33:56.465 --> 01:34:05.909 Recently, the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, ACIP, met for the first time after HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. 01:34:06.370 --> 01:34:08.711 replaced its entire membership with new picks. 01:34:09.191 --> 01:34:16.995 In this episode, I'm sitting down with two new ACIP members, Dr. Robert Malone and MIT Professor Retsef Levy for a deep- Now remember, 01:34:20.962 --> 01:34:27.007 This guy of Epoch Times has had Sasha Latipova on twice. 01:34:27.027 --> 01:34:35.954 The context of vaccines is that debate was considered as confusing to patients, as something that we should avoid. 01:34:37.175 --> 01:34:45.081 Redsef Levy is basically a guy who had never had any skepticism in vaccines and is willing to have extra skepticism about the new vaccines. 01:34:45.141 --> 01:34:46.322 And so he's playing a role. 01:34:46.742 --> 01:34:47.703 He might be an idiot. 01:34:47.843 --> 01:34:48.523 It's possible. 01:34:49.746 --> 01:34:54.683 A lot of people have sent me emails to say that anybody that has as hair as long as you is an idiot. 01:34:55.838 --> 01:34:57.500 So, you know, I mean, maybe he's an idiot. 01:34:57.700 --> 01:34:58.140 I don't know. 01:34:58.300 --> 01:35:01.923 But I got to say, I think he's a useful stooge. 01:35:01.983 --> 01:35:09.730 I think he's on the same script and is happy to be on that script because he's not actually questioning anything except for the new shot. 01:35:09.750 --> 01:35:11.651 You know, like COVID shots are bad. 01:35:11.711 --> 01:35:12.912 Don't talk about 2020. 01:35:13.613 --> 01:35:22.920 Some key discussions during the recent meeting for mercury and the flu vaccine to RSV shots for children and what may happen with this committee moving forward. 01:35:23.741 --> 01:35:25.724 Okay, so it gets worse right it gets worse. 01:35:25.764 --> 01:35:27.687 I told you they're gonna use it against us. 01:35:27.747 --> 01:35:33.434 They have set us up And Paul Offit is gonna bring it to us from micro TV. 01:35:33.514 --> 01:35:39.102 This is beyond the noise episode number 72 recorded on June 30th 2025 01:35:47.227 --> 01:35:51.069 I'm Vincent Racaniello and joining me today is your host, Dr. Paul Offit. 01:35:51.590 --> 01:35:52.150 Hi, Vincent. 01:35:52.770 --> 01:35:53.411 Hello, Paul. 01:35:53.471 --> 01:35:54.091 Welcome back. 01:35:54.331 --> 01:35:58.534 This is the video version of Paul's column on Substack. 01:35:58.974 --> 01:36:04.697 So you just pause it here and you can see that he gets like 300, 400 restacks. 01:36:04.837 --> 01:36:06.658 He gets hundreds of likes. 01:36:06.758 --> 01:36:08.800 There's a thousand comments. 01:36:09.935 --> 01:36:14.798 So Substack is weaponized against us on all sides of the equation. 01:36:14.858 --> 01:36:21.942 Everybody that uses it is being bamboozled just in the same way that everybody that uses Twig X is being bamboozled. 01:36:22.742 --> 01:36:30.686 And it's very easy for everybody to accept that Facebook kind of does it too, but not really unless you're trying to buy stuff, but it's all the same. 01:36:30.827 --> 01:36:32.427 It's all weaponized against us. 01:36:32.828 --> 01:36:36.590 There is no spontaneous virality of good ideas. 01:36:36.650 --> 01:36:38.691 There is only censorship and control. 01:36:40.572 --> 01:36:44.953 called Beyond the Noise, cutting to the chase on important health topics. 01:36:44.973 --> 01:36:50.735 Today we're gonna talk about Paul's latest column, The Irony of RFK Jr.' 01:36:50.715 --> 01:36:54.716 's Conflicts of Interest Gambit. 01:36:55.236 --> 01:37:00.858 So let's start by having you tell us why RFK Jr. 01:37:01.018 --> 01:37:04.919 fired all 17 members of the ACIP. 01:37:04.939 --> 01:37:06.040 You can tell us what that means. 01:37:07.120 --> 01:37:24.095 Right, so the ACIP or Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices is an advisory committee to the CDC that primarily focuses on- I just want you to see that it's impossible that we're here where we're arguing about RFK with Paul Offit unless it's orchestrated and in fact it is. 01:37:24.715 --> 01:37:29.860 It is a national security military organization orchestrated 01:37:31.454 --> 01:37:38.477 PSYOP and I don't like the word PSYOP because you know Robert Malone's an expert in them because he's part of the same thing. 01:37:39.237 --> 01:37:42.539 That's why he says these chaos agents you're almost certainly interacting. 01:37:42.619 --> 01:37:43.579 He is that. 01:37:43.739 --> 01:37:46.100 He is the one of the coordinators of them. 01:37:48.341 --> 01:37:58.506 And once you see that this guy has a coordinated narrative that doesn't even really need to be updated because he understands it as exactly as he's needed to understand it. 01:38:00.506 --> 01:38:04.607 Just like Kevin McCurden understands it exactly as he needed to understand it. 01:38:04.627 --> 01:38:09.369 Just like Kevin McCairn at the beginning of the pandemic understood it exactly as he needed to understand it. 01:38:10.009 --> 01:38:12.450 Spike protein, amyloid, cardiac stuff. 01:38:13.431 --> 01:38:17.812 Jessica Rose understood it exactly as she needed to understand it at the beginning of the pandemic. 01:38:17.832 --> 01:38:20.033 Vares, Vares, Vares, Epigirl, Vares. 01:38:22.014 --> 01:38:41.710 And this guy has understood it very well ever since he started working at the Vaccine Information Center at CHOP, and ever since he was recruited to be opposite of Mary Holland in this ongoing theater that started around 2015, when Mary Holland and Brian Hooker and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:38:42.030 --> 01:38:51.498 and Suzanne Humphreys and all of these people were recruited to get in front of Brandy Vaughn and get in front of Tony Bark and eventually take their place when they were killed. 01:38:54.528 --> 01:38:57.170 So this scripted bullshit is happening right now. 01:38:58.330 --> 01:39:02.273 Sometimes we have to pivot along the journey, but it's good to have goals. 01:39:03.253 --> 01:39:18.023 When we had a goal of rolling out AI for our scientific reviewers and staff agency-wide by June 30th, after a very successful pilot, we hit that goal ahead of schedule and under budget. 01:39:18.763 --> 01:39:19.743 It's good to have goals. 01:39:20.323 --> 01:39:29.145 And so one of our biggest goals is to reduce animal testing in a way that's meaningful and continues to protect against public safety. 01:39:31.446 --> 01:39:38.027 So with that, so one of the things he said in his opening remarks was that God didn't put us on the earth to torture animals. 01:39:40.588 --> 01:39:42.488 It was in the first five minutes of that talk. 01:39:44.764 --> 01:39:47.365 And so again, he's playing us against each other. 01:39:47.465 --> 01:39:58.850 He's playing the same shitty narratives that they, it is so malevolent right now that this foreigner and that foreigner and all these other foreigners are in front of us saying this scripted bullshit, but that's where we are. 01:40:01.011 --> 01:40:07.198 None of them are ever going to say that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb. 01:40:07.258 --> 01:40:11.382 None of them are ever going to explain to you that transfection in healthy humans is always dangerous. 01:40:11.902 --> 01:40:21.693 And none of them are going to explain to you what I might mean by viruses are not pattern integrities or that RNA cannot pandemic because these are the foundational myths that cannot be questioned. 01:40:24.810 --> 01:40:25.631 There is a way out. 01:40:25.671 --> 01:40:32.297 The PrEP Act is unconstitutional because it allows the suspension of fundamental rights without holding the government to strict scrutiny. 01:40:32.337 --> 01:40:34.700 And all these people won't say it because they're liars. 01:40:36.541 --> 01:40:39.865 Virology is a fraud, but just like PCR, it's not fake. 01:40:40.045 --> 01:40:40.605 It works. 01:40:40.766 --> 01:40:46.071 But there are different ways to do it, and virology is done mostly through transfection and transformation. 01:40:47.506 --> 01:40:56.612 and the vast background of genetic signals is actually bacterial, and that's the illusion that they are casting over all of our children as we teach this stupid shit to them. 01:40:58.413 --> 01:41:09.159 RNA is a class of molecule that doesn't qualify for this wonderful possibility of pandemicking, because it's single-stranded, because it doesn't have proofreading, and because it's unstable. 01:41:10.180 --> 01:41:12.681 And so, this is a lie. 01:41:13.282 --> 01:41:15.283 At the foundation of this is a lie. 01:41:18.815 --> 01:41:41.670 I would caution you to understand that the use of PCR as a diagnostic is one of the things they needed because it has established a remnant stream that they can now use to sequence us over and over again and do whatever they want, basically create any health emergency that they need to using this false methodology, this assumption that this is a gold standard, which it definitely is not. 01:41:42.811 --> 01:41:46.716 Instead, what's really the truth is that the FDA should evaluate every 01:41:47.483 --> 01:42:00.808 PCR product that came out from 2020 and show us that it was indeed a medical device with fidelity, which it won't be, and also demonstrate that the current ones on the market are not high-fidelity diagnostics. 01:42:00.848 --> 01:42:14.694 But instead, they're focusing on getting rid of animal testing, getting rid of these barriers to bringing things to market quicker, and getting rid of these barriers to have people in desperate situations be able to use whatever they want. 01:42:15.294 --> 01:42:18.475 I'm all in the way of kind of making the FDA irrelevant. 01:42:18.515 --> 01:42:19.816 And that's not by accident. 01:42:20.256 --> 01:42:27.278 It's part of the pivot that the Human Genome Project would require to make us from sovereign individuals to experimental animals. 01:42:27.339 --> 01:42:32.841 Because indeed, it's a national priority to have this genetic and medical data of Americans. 01:42:33.221 --> 01:42:36.122 We are not going to have this much data available ever again. 01:42:36.762 --> 01:42:37.922 And so it needs to be. 01:42:37.982 --> 01:42:41.724 It's a priority, a multi-generational priority for humanity. 01:42:42.364 --> 01:42:52.009 for the species, that this data be collected, that the infrastructure to collect the data be built, that the machine learning algorithms to interpret the data be developed. 01:42:52.089 --> 01:42:58.532 This is all a national security priority that sits parallel with and continuous with the Human Genome Project. 01:42:58.572 --> 01:43:09.518 And that's the reason why Robert Malone and Kevin McKernan were involved in the narrative space since the very beginning, because this is a scripted part of the Human Genome Project, again, to invert our sovereignty 01:43:10.058 --> 01:43:11.960 to experimental animal status. 01:43:12.020 --> 01:43:12.621 That is it. 01:43:12.841 --> 01:43:17.806 That's the real truth, Ruth, as far as I can say it. 01:43:18.466 --> 01:43:19.667 The best that I can say it. 01:43:19.727 --> 01:43:20.368 Where are you? 01:43:20.448 --> 01:43:22.430 There you are, you silly little boy. 01:43:23.411 --> 01:43:24.572 And so yeah, that's it. 01:43:25.613 --> 01:43:26.774 That's the best I can say it. 01:43:28.075 --> 01:43:31.879 The spread of bad ideas is definitely much scarier than the spread of any RNA molecule. 01:43:31.919 --> 01:43:32.880 I'll see you in a few minutes, huh? 01:44:33.272 --> 01:44:56.897 Ž Shine in your Japan Ž Ž Sparkle in your China Ž Ž Can you show me police supper police supper Ž Ž Go sell my house in town Ž Ž Police supper go sell my house in town Ž Ž And I'll be there shine in your Japan Ž Ž Sparkle in your China Ž Ž Yes I'll be there police supper police supper Ž Ž 01:46:46.701 --> 01:46:46.741 oh 01:49:13.283 --> 01:49:16.204 Yeah, I loved the statement in the chat. 01:49:16.304 --> 01:49:20.266 In my next life, I will be wise enough to attend this Steely Dan concert. 01:49:20.306 --> 01:49:24.047 If that's the way the next life works, then I want to be that wise as well. 01:49:24.067 --> 01:49:26.869 But I don't think you actually go back in time in your next life. 01:49:27.469 --> 01:49:31.611 Anyway, that's neither here nor there, or then or when. 01:49:31.631 --> 01:49:33.952 This is Giga Home Biological. 01:49:34.032 --> 01:49:35.532 We're on the second half of the show. 01:49:35.572 --> 01:49:36.393 It's a little bit shorter. 01:49:37.493 --> 01:49:40.154 It's been a long one today, but it's a nice day in the background. 01:49:40.654 --> 01:49:41.535 My voice feels OK. 01:49:42.855 --> 01:49:52.585 I have been provided with the necessary liquids and so I'm gonna keep working Again, I don't I don't take this lightly saying that this is scripted bullshit. 01:49:52.665 --> 01:50:05.978 I don't take it very lightly to say that I think Suzanne Humphreys is standing in for the dead I really take it very seriously when I say that because I think Brandy Vaughn was murdered. 01:50:06.138 --> 01:50:06.959 I think Tony is 01:50:07.620 --> 01:50:09.120 Bark was probably murdered. 01:50:09.240 --> 01:50:21.823 And I think that this person is a traitor to our grandchildren because unlike her earlier self, when Brandy and Tony were still alive, she can no longer tell you the truth. 01:50:23.103 --> 01:50:27.384 She can go on Joe Rogan for two and a half hours and not tell you the truth. 01:50:27.704 --> 01:50:33.945 And it's a very simple truth that she used to be able to say that Brian Hooker used to be able to say. 01:50:35.029 --> 01:50:37.131 condition that we will not call autism. 01:50:37.271 --> 01:50:38.813 I don't like the word autism. 01:50:39.473 --> 01:50:40.775 Um, he was vaccine damaged. 01:50:41.115 --> 01:50:46.000 He was neurologically damaged, but condition condition that we will not call autism. 01:50:46.140 --> 01:50:47.681 I don't like the word autism. 01:50:48.342 --> 01:50:49.503 Um, he was vaccine damage. 01:50:49.683 --> 01:50:55.489 Now this is very significant because essentially what Brian is saying there is that he thinks autism is a myth. 01:50:55.629 --> 01:50:58.532 It's a myth used to cover up vaccine damaged. 01:51:00.563 --> 01:51:07.330 And now interestingly, the same video, the same incriminating evidence is right here with this woman. 01:51:08.792 --> 01:51:09.833 Now, why doesn't that run? 01:51:09.853 --> 01:51:09.913 Hmm. 01:51:13.177 --> 01:51:14.118 Oh yeah, it's not up there. 01:51:14.418 --> 01:51:14.799 I see. 01:51:20.211 --> 01:51:23.836 My current opinion about vaccinations is that they have never been safe. 01:51:24.557 --> 01:51:26.200 Never has there been a safe vaccine. 01:51:26.821 --> 01:51:28.603 Never will there be a safe vaccine. 01:51:28.944 --> 01:51:31.227 And it is not possible to have a safe vaccine. 01:51:31.488 --> 01:51:34.792 Now, essentially what she's saying there is intramuscular injection is dumb. 01:51:35.553 --> 01:51:44.419 Or maybe in my better way of saying it is a intramuscular injection of a combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb. 01:51:44.980 --> 01:51:51.504 So essentially I agree with 2018 Suzanne Humphries just like I agree with 2013 Brian Hooker. 01:51:54.946 --> 01:52:03.392 But unfortunately this liar went on Joe Rogan in 2025 and couldn't say it that succinctly apparently because her opinion has changed. 01:52:04.226 --> 01:52:14.668 Her current opinion in 2018, when Brandy Vaughn and Tony Bark were still alive, was curiously similar to the opinion that Tony Bark and Brandy Vaughn had. 01:52:15.308 --> 01:52:26.671 But as soon as Tony Bark and Brandy Vaughn were dead, Brian Hooker and Suzanne Humphreys and Mary Holland started building the big top tent for health freedom with as many polls as they could find. 01:52:28.976 --> 01:52:37.162 The reasoning for that is that the actual process of vaccination defies the natural function of the immune system. 01:52:37.683 --> 01:52:40.845 Exactly what I've been saying for the last few years. 01:52:40.925 --> 01:52:51.273 And I'm very, very disappointed to have to bring you this message that these people, I was in Georgia when she was there working and on stage and you know, 01:52:52.398 --> 01:52:56.940 It's not like she reached out or Brian Hooker said you have to meet her or anything like that. 01:52:57.000 --> 01:52:58.260 It was the exact opposite. 01:52:58.300 --> 01:53:04.082 Brian Hooker also never said I got to meet James Lyons-Weiler, even though James Lyons-Weiler was on stage. 01:53:05.682 --> 01:53:12.525 And next to Suzanne Humphreys on stage at CHD, their conference in Georgia. 01:53:12.705 --> 01:53:16.806 And Brian didn't think it was important for me to meet them or that they were very important. 01:53:16.906 --> 01:53:21.528 And I don't have any selfies with either of those two because they run away from me. 01:53:22.924 --> 01:53:33.210 They are part of this show that replaces Brandy Vaughn and Tony Bark who were murdered in 2020 with these frauds. 01:53:34.952 --> 01:53:42.296 Listen to how fraudulent they are and remember what Paul Offit and Daniel Griffin talked about on TWIV. 01:53:45.001 --> 01:53:47.342 Listen, Bobby, I can't prove it tonight. 01:53:47.642 --> 01:53:48.622 You can't prove it. 01:53:48.662 --> 01:54:00.886 But intuitively, you look at the spike, you look at what happened with the Marisol, there is no doubt in my mind, maybe it's two years from now, maybe it's five years from now, maybe it's 10 years from now, we're going to find out that the Marisol 01:54:01.426 --> 01:54:20.408 causes in my opinion ought to know what that's not by accident that is the malevolence of this script because now we are being shown previous acts of the play as if they are representative of reality instead of an elaborate theater scripted over decades I know it's tough 01:54:21.445 --> 01:54:23.386 but you gotta be able to see it eventually. 01:54:23.446 --> 01:54:37.091 It's gotta be obvious eventually because otherwise we wouldn't still be talking about these same dumb issues and we would have gotten to the stage where somebody would have reasonably considered the possibility that all intramuscular injection might be nonsense. 01:54:38.592 --> 01:54:49.116 But the science is... So there's Joe Scarborough saying that vaccines cause autism because his kid has a form of it called Asperger's. 01:54:51.178 --> 01:55:02.441 So big news is that the CDC vaccine panel voted to take the mercury preservatives out of their flu shots. 01:55:02.701 --> 01:55:08.222 And so just to let you know what mercury is, because it's in your vaccine. 01:55:08.282 --> 01:55:09.622 And so who's he going to play? 01:55:09.682 --> 01:55:17.324 He's going to play 2025 Suzanne Humphreys, the scripted traitor on Robert Malone's shitty script. 01:55:18.184 --> 01:55:34.262 on joe rogan where she doesn't say that there are no safe vaccines that i don't think there are any say it can't be done because it's antithetical to our immune system in two and a half hours she never said it because she is a scripted traitor maybe she's got a gun to her head i don't know 01:55:35.384 --> 01:55:45.728 but it's time that somebody that has a gun to their head or, or has taken it farther than they initially wanted to start to grow a pair and fricking speak out as an American. 01:55:46.268 --> 01:55:47.829 You know, Ryan Cole could do it. 01:55:48.429 --> 01:55:50.109 Ryan Cole knows this is bullshit. 01:55:50.510 --> 01:55:53.391 Suzanne Humphries could do it, but she, she's not going to do it. 01:55:53.471 --> 01:55:55.031 Obviously she has a gun to her head. 01:55:56.632 --> 01:55:58.533 There's lots of other people who could do it. 01:55:58.913 --> 01:56:04.715 Mary Talley Bowden could probably do it if she really wanted to, but apparently she's got enough money or a gun to her head. 01:56:07.594 --> 01:56:15.738 This is scary because this clown, super scripted clown, is now promoting the shittiest video of her career. 01:56:15.818 --> 01:56:26.143 Basically the worst video that exists of her on the internet is her interview on Joe Rogan where she essentially says nothing for two and a half hours. 01:56:26.903 --> 01:56:28.724 Scenes, and not good. 01:56:29.284 --> 01:56:30.045 And how not good? 01:56:30.065 --> 01:56:30.445 Well here. 01:56:31.727 --> 01:56:32.407 Here, let's find out. 01:56:47.757 --> 01:57:06.953 is that vaccines, while it might look like just a clear liquid, in order to make a vaccine, you have to have either a cow that you put ulcers on and scrape the pus off, or you can evolve it as it had evolved to maybe getting some tumorous cells that came out of a cocker spaniel's kidney, or monkey balls, or monkey kidneys, and you plate those cells out, and then you inoculate it with what you want to grow to put in your vaccine later. 01:57:07.233 --> 01:57:13.875 But in order to keep those cells alive, you have to put animal blood on it, you have to put different nutrients on top of it, you have to put antibiotics, kanamycin, you know, things like that related to the COVID. 01:57:14.355 --> 01:57:14.855 Here, mercury. 01:57:14.935 --> 01:57:24.637 Okay, so in the end, you can kill, you can make sure when you have your final product that if you put a little bit of mercury in there, that it's less likely for any of the fungus or the spores or the bacteria or the adventitious viruses that you didn't know about that were there before will be in your final product. 01:57:24.878 --> 01:57:25.218 Wonderful. 01:57:25.418 --> 01:57:26.518 So you have a product now that you can 01:57:26.858 --> 01:57:30.141 It's almost like you could make one if you weren't so careless. 01:57:30.161 --> 01:57:34.325 You could make a good vaccine, but they just use shitty stuff because they're shitty people. 01:57:34.365 --> 01:57:37.648 But if we had good people making good vaccines, the good vaccines would be good. 01:57:40.170 --> 01:57:49.418 Instead of saying what she said in 2018 when Brandy Vaughn and Tony Bark were alive, which is that she doesn't think there are any safe vaccines, she doesn't think it can be done. 01:57:52.121 --> 01:57:52.802 Stop lying! 01:57:56.559 --> 01:58:07.385 not completely sure has any of these deadly microbes, but now has mercury, which the only places it's actually okay to have on the planet, mercury, is in vaccines, your tooth, or a toxic landfill. 01:58:07.405 --> 01:58:13.649 So if you were to drop a vaccine at a vaccine clinic onto the floor, the hazmat guys would come, and you're not allowed to just pick it up if it's a mercury-containing vaccine. 01:58:13.889 --> 01:58:15.190 Hazmat people have to come and take that away. 01:58:15.510 --> 01:58:16.971 Yet we're okay to take a portion of it. 01:58:16.991 --> 01:58:19.772 But there are no mercury-containing vaccines anymore. 01:58:19.812 --> 01:58:24.275 We already heard that from both Paul Offit and Vincent Racaniello and 01:58:25.015 --> 01:58:49.348 Daniel Griffin the only only ones were in some quadrivalent flu vaccines So is she does she just dumb is she just not done any reading since 2013 when her book came out She just said forget it She hasn't tried to advance anything because she's still selling that book So she doesn't want to contradict her book or advance her book or you know She doesn't want to be bothered to write another book. 01:58:49.868 --> 01:58:52.029 So what the hell I'll just stick to it. 01:58:52.289 --> 01:58:53.270 What is this shit? 01:58:54.815 --> 01:59:06.063 And think, remember, this jackass doesn't care, apparently, that Americans were murdered for a couple years in order to coerce him into taking the vaccine. 01:59:06.443 --> 01:59:10.065 He doesn't give a shit at all, even though he knows it's true, because I've told him. 01:59:11.866 --> 01:59:24.515 I saw him in person in Pittsburgh when he brought his comedy troupe to Pittsburgh, and we saw him in person and took a picture with him in person, and I gave him a book that was annotated with a letter and phone, and it's remarkable. 01:59:26.024 --> 01:59:37.054 He is awful, but no more awful than Shannon Joy, no more awful than they're just all useful idiots, performers with SAG cards. 01:59:38.756 --> 01:59:42.539 Now that violin injected into, you know, a child, a three-month-old child, how does that work? 01:59:43.420 --> 01:59:44.221 It doesn't sound logical. 01:59:44.541 --> 01:59:46.363 It doesn't sound logical. 01:59:47.270 --> 01:59:48.871 So let me bring in Mary Holland. 01:59:48.971 --> 02:00:00.176 She's author speaker and CEO of the children's health defense and organization focused on legal strategies to defend children's health and obtain justice for those injured before joining the children. 02:00:00.316 --> 02:00:01.697 That's an interesting statement. 02:00:01.717 --> 02:00:02.757 I've never heard before. 02:00:03.017 --> 02:00:06.219 Focused on legal strategy. 02:00:06.959 --> 02:00:07.499 Wow. 02:00:07.579 --> 02:00:10.961 That is some seriously, seriously fraudulent shit. 02:00:11.294 --> 02:00:12.294 health defense in 2019. 02:00:12.734 --> 02:00:19.256 She taught at NYU School of Law for 17 years and lectured at Columbia Law School on international human rights advocacy. 02:00:19.276 --> 02:00:21.176 Welcome back to the show, Mary Holland. 02:00:21.196 --> 02:00:21.696 Hi, Mary. 02:00:22.696 --> 02:00:24.857 International human rights advocacy. 02:00:24.917 --> 02:00:26.297 I'm going to escape out of here. 02:00:26.317 --> 02:00:27.217 This is crashing. 02:00:28.138 --> 02:00:28.458 Demon. 02:00:29.918 --> 02:00:32.679 International rights, human rights advocate. 02:00:33.179 --> 02:00:38.400 I think that would set off a huge red flag for my friend Joe Marshall at the Liberty Perspective. 02:00:40.049 --> 02:00:41.410 That's not a patriotic thing. 02:00:55.779 --> 02:01:03.427 the CEO of the Children's Health Defense, an organization focused on legal strategies to defend children's health and obtain justice for those injured. 02:01:03.808 --> 02:01:13.838 Before joining the Children's Health Defense in 2019, she taught at NYU School of Law for 17 years and lectured at Columbia Law School on international human rights advocacy. 02:01:13.878 --> 02:01:15.781 Welcome back to the show, Mary Holland. 02:01:15.801 --> 02:01:16.281 Hi, Mary. 02:01:17.122 --> 02:01:17.743 Great to be here. 02:01:18.294 --> 02:01:21.019 So this is a big deal, right, that they're getting. 02:01:21.279 --> 02:01:26.749 So now they had taken the mercury out of most of the flu shots, but there was still in some of them. 02:01:26.809 --> 02:01:28.753 Why would they take it out of most but not all of them? 02:01:29.500 --> 02:01:29.940 Exactly. 02:01:30.380 --> 02:01:37.842 So they took it out as a preservative in 2001, except in the flu shots, in multi-dose vials. 02:01:37.922 --> 02:01:44.704 And as Suzanne Humphreys were just explaining, you know, to kill bacteria, because they'd open it and give one dose, but they'd still have two. 02:01:44.764 --> 02:01:48.685 It's not by accident that she knows Suzanne Humphreys' name. 02:01:49.045 --> 02:01:50.845 It's not by accident that she said it. 02:01:50.865 --> 02:01:52.026 This is a script. 02:01:52.166 --> 02:01:53.066 It's a performance. 02:01:53.746 --> 02:01:55.606 And they have it on a little sheet. 02:01:55.686 --> 02:01:57.627 They know what they're going to say and where they're going to go. 02:01:58.695 --> 02:01:59.956 two or three more doses to give. 02:02:00.597 --> 02:02:07.023 At this point, it was down to 3%, but it wasn't 3% from 2001 until now. 02:02:07.183 --> 02:02:10.346 It went down gradually, the amount of mercury being taken out. 02:02:10.446 --> 02:02:15.431 And this is a 30-year battle, Jimmy, that's now been ended, which is fantastic. 02:02:15.591 --> 02:02:19.755 Mercury should never have been in vaccines, I think, as you can appreciate from what was just said. 02:02:20.095 --> 02:02:23.779 It's an incredibly toxic substance, and we were injecting it into 02:02:24.244 --> 02:02:28.769 you know, infants, day-old babies in the hepatitis B shot before they took it out. 02:02:29.670 --> 02:02:34.356 And so, the mercury in the vaccines, it's called thimerosal, correct? 02:02:35.103 --> 02:02:35.323 Right. 02:02:35.403 --> 02:02:36.644 It's called thimerosal. 02:02:36.744 --> 02:02:40.525 It's half ethyl mercury by weight. 02:02:40.605 --> 02:02:47.248 So 50% of thimerosal, it's made by Lilly, was never properly tested, and it started to be used. 02:02:47.388 --> 02:02:56.592 And literally what some of the people at the CDC acknowledged was they just never added up the cumulative amount of mercury that these kids were getting in the various shots. 02:02:57.112 --> 02:03:05.219 After 1986, when Congress gave a liability shield, the number of vaccines escalated dramatically, and a lot of them contain mercury. 02:03:05.239 --> 02:03:06.540 They also contain aluminum. 02:03:06.580 --> 02:03:09.162 There's a synergistic effect between mercury and aluminum. 02:03:09.723 --> 02:03:16.008 And a lot of neurological injuries went along with this rise of the use and the number of vaccines. 02:03:16.698 --> 02:03:22.943 And I remember a time when cable news hosts used to thank RFK Jr. 02:03:23.523 --> 02:03:30.108 for fighting this to try to get mercury out of vaccines and specifically thimerosal. 02:03:30.148 --> 02:03:31.849 In fact, here's a video. 02:03:31.869 --> 02:03:34.371 This is going to be a little loud, so bring it down a little bit. 02:03:35.031 --> 02:03:36.833 Here is RFK Jr. 02:03:37.253 --> 02:03:42.637 speaking with Joe Scarborough when he hosted a show called Scarborough Country on MSNBC. 02:03:42.677 --> 02:03:43.237 Let's watch. 02:03:43.617 --> 02:03:45.099 My son born in 1991. 02:03:47.229 --> 02:04:02.258 has a slight form of autism called Asperger's, but it seems, and again, when I was practicing law and also when I was in Congress, parents would constantly come to me and they'd bring me videotapes of their children and they were all around the age of my son or younger. 02:04:02.538 --> 02:04:05.340 So something happened in 1989. 02:04:05.480 --> 02:04:08.041 So you believe that Scarborough's not lying there? 02:04:08.062 --> 02:04:13.785 That people came, people bringing me videos and pictures of their kid, come on. 02:04:14.185 --> 02:04:14.886 Come on! 02:04:30.580 --> 02:04:36.284 Nobody bothered to do an analysis of what the cumulative impact of all that mercury was doing to kids. 02:04:36.645 --> 02:04:44.150 As it turns out, we are injecting our children with 400 times the amount of mercury that FDA or EPA considers safe. 02:04:44.490 --> 02:04:49.334 A child, on his first day that he's born, is injected with a hepatitis B shot. 02:04:50.611 --> 02:04:56.056 under EPA guidelines, he would have to be 275 pounds to safely absorb that. 02:04:56.096 --> 02:04:59.538 Now they are repeating this argument right now with aluminum. 02:04:59.578 --> 02:05:02.280 They're repeating it all the time in all these different ways. 02:05:02.361 --> 02:05:03.361 It's really absurd. 02:05:04.502 --> 02:05:06.624 I think the chickens just caught a snake or something. 02:05:06.644 --> 02:05:07.665 They're all freaking out. 02:05:07.785 --> 02:05:08.886 Whoa, that's some... 02:05:09.890 --> 02:05:12.092 Velociraptor style sprinting there. 02:05:12.552 --> 02:05:17.516 Anyway, this is all very malevolent and if you can see it, it will free you. 02:05:17.696 --> 02:05:30.365 If you can see the truth here that, you know, this is a willing, willing participant in this show because, you know, he makes a living doing it and this is a real big recruit. 02:05:30.585 --> 02:05:33.528 This is a guy who has been Truman showed for his whole life. 02:05:34.585 --> 02:05:38.750 Probably doesn't really believe what he's saying, but he knows that he's scripted to say it. 02:05:38.850 --> 02:05:43.415 And that's why his progress and understanding has been so little. 02:05:44.216 --> 02:05:50.764 Not that dissimilar from Mary Holland, not that dissimilar from Pauly Tommy, not that dissimilar from Brian Hooker, who knew a lot more. 02:05:51.545 --> 02:05:56.707 a long time ago, just like it seems that Suzanne Humphreys knew a lot more a long time ago. 02:05:57.167 --> 02:06:00.689 And yet we're just constantly pumping our kids with these vaccines. 02:06:00.729 --> 02:06:02.970 What happened was that in 1988, one in every 2,500 American children had autism. 02:06:02.990 --> 02:06:04.690 Today, one in every 166 children have autism. 02:06:04.710 --> 02:06:05.611 And now today it's one in 31. 02:06:18.927 --> 02:06:20.108 31. 02:06:19.087 --> 02:06:20.108 It's one in 31. 02:06:20.228 --> 02:06:23.589 It's one in 12 and a half boys, Jimmy, in California. 02:06:24.050 --> 02:06:28.652 And since there was this secret meeting about- But how many of those are profound autism? 02:06:28.712 --> 02:06:29.752 Is she going to tell us that? 02:06:29.792 --> 02:06:33.074 But then she's going to go back to the secret meeting and say it's black kids. 02:06:33.694 --> 02:06:41.658 And so the CDC was covering up the racist, racial biased of the vaccine shot. 02:06:41.698 --> 02:06:44.099 And so they're going to get us to tear each other apart. 02:06:45.880 --> 02:06:47.721 This is a traitor and a fraud. 02:06:49.261 --> 02:06:54.247 who has made no progress in more than two decades and should probably be in jail. 02:06:55.448 --> 02:06:59.272 She's one of the worst Americans alive and one of the biggest frauds on the internet. 02:07:00.333 --> 02:07:07.181 And I would put this guy into a similar category, but lacking the sheer, you know, 02:07:08.596 --> 02:07:14.778 unbelievable, overwhelming evidence of a two decade track record of failing. 02:07:15.158 --> 02:07:16.379 That guy doesn't have that. 02:07:16.559 --> 02:07:21.981 So he's got a three year track record of going along with it ever since I told him the truth. 02:07:22.061 --> 02:07:23.381 That's what he definitely has. 02:07:23.681 --> 02:07:27.963 And now more than ever, it's obvious because he just promotes who they send to him. 02:07:32.245 --> 02:07:34.866 What do we do about thimerosal back in 2000? 02:07:35.386 --> 02:07:37.967 We just did a retrospective on this 25 years later. 02:07:38.388 --> 02:07:42.689 You know, the increase in autism is 350% since 2000. 02:07:43.230 --> 02:07:48.212 So the CDC has been absolutely had its head in the sand. 02:07:49.072 --> 02:07:52.073 And so interesting to see that from MSNBC, Jimmy, right? 02:07:52.293 --> 02:07:58.296 After, for a lot of different reasons, MSNBC, you know, would now call that a conspiracy theory. 02:07:58.336 --> 02:07:58.436 Yes. 02:07:59.076 --> 02:08:00.977 And so he, watch this, it even gets better. 02:08:01.017 --> 02:08:02.337 There's a little bit more to this video. 02:08:02.357 --> 02:08:03.417 Okay, get ready, Chris. 02:08:03.717 --> 02:08:18.841 And plus, one in six children have other kinds of learning disorders, other kinds of neurological disorders, speech delay, language disorders, ADD, hyperactivity, that all seem to be connected, that are all connected, the science shows are all connected to autism. 02:08:18.861 --> 02:08:27.104 You know, Bobby, what we've always found, you and I could debate a thousand different issues, whether it's Terry Shiva or the environment, I think would agree on the environment. 02:08:28.344 --> 02:08:32.489 But in this case, you've got the federal government coming and saying, well, there's no good science. 02:08:32.509 --> 02:08:35.272 And of course, in politics, science always gets diluted. 02:08:35.713 --> 02:08:37.735 Why hasn't the federal government stepped up? 02:08:39.349 --> 02:08:58.903 And it worked more, because listen, Bobby, I can't prove it tonight, you can't prove it, but intuitively, you look at the spike, you look at what happened with the Marisol, there is no doubt in my mind, maybe it's two years from now, maybe it's five years from now, maybe it's ten years from now, we're going to find out that the Marisol causes, in my opinion, autism. 02:08:58.923 --> 02:09:00.184 You know what, the science is... 02:09:01.274 --> 02:09:16.782 So there's Joe Scarborough saying that vaccines cause autism because his kid has a form of it called Asperger's and it all exploded in 1989 when he would have hundreds and hundreds of parents coming with the same age 02:09:17.122 --> 02:09:22.047 And it all started in 1989, same age kids with these autism and Asperger's. 02:09:22.107 --> 02:09:31.978 And he's saying we're going to prove it, not today, not tomorrow, but someday, that this is caused by thimerosal, which is another way of saying it's being caused by the vaccines we're giving our children. 02:09:32.258 --> 02:09:34.000 That's what Joe Scarborough used to say. 02:09:35.081 --> 02:09:37.923 John Stewart used to thank RFK Jr. 02:09:37.983 --> 02:09:40.965 on behalf of the parents for doing this kind of work. 02:09:41.225 --> 02:09:51.791 That's all over because that was before Big Pharma completely controlled the narrative and now they fund Joe Scarborough to the tune of 70% of his paycheck. 02:09:52.511 --> 02:09:53.452 Take it where you want, Mary. 02:09:54.375 --> 02:09:56.216 Yeah, I take it where you want, Mary. 02:09:56.256 --> 02:09:58.956 We changed changed after Obamacare. 02:09:59.737 --> 02:10:04.318 You know, back in the early 2000s, this was not really a partisan issue. 02:10:04.378 --> 02:10:09.199 If anything, the Democratic Party was more favorable to this than the Republican. 02:10:09.279 --> 02:10:11.480 Now there's been a complete reversal on this. 02:10:11.960 --> 02:10:13.840 And unfortunately, it really is. 02:10:14.020 --> 02:10:15.961 It's become a very partisan issue. 02:10:16.461 --> 02:10:22.983 And Bobby Kennedy is now serving in Donald Trump's administration in a Republican dominated administration. 02:10:23.698 --> 02:10:25.720 and really trying to get the science done. 02:10:25.840 --> 02:10:31.504 And what Bobby Kennedy has said, he's acknowledged this one in 31, this is federal data. 02:10:31.884 --> 02:10:35.727 And he's told us in his first press conference as secretary of HHS, 02:10:36.397 --> 02:10:39.078 that by September we would start to really understand. 02:10:39.098 --> 02:10:46.839 You can almost feel her holding back time by saying, you know, his first statement that he made five months ago was this. 02:10:46.939 --> 02:10:49.880 And so we have to just trust in the progress of him. 02:10:49.940 --> 02:10:55.541 And, you know, it's a very, it's a very tenuous game that he plays with these political people now. 02:10:55.621 --> 02:10:58.821 And he's a Jedi master and we got him right where we want him now. 02:10:59.321 --> 02:11:01.882 And it's all a question of when he decides to do everything. 02:11:02.270 --> 02:11:04.951 He would give us some information about what the science says. 02:11:04.991 --> 02:11:18.956 And what he's trying to do right now is really analyze massive amounts of data that he has access to within HHS to prove, you know, what happens after a kid gets Hep B or Hiv or DPT or polio or MMR. 02:11:19.356 --> 02:11:23.978 What is the, you know, if you can show that with Medicaid records, you can show that with federal data. 02:11:25.103 --> 02:11:32.165 So I just want to, I'm going to show you how this corporate news covered this, them voting to take the mercury out of the flu vaccine. 02:11:32.466 --> 02:11:34.406 I'm going to wait, wait till you see how they cover it. 02:11:34.726 --> 02:11:38.688 But right before this, I'm going to show you a 10 second clip from Dr. John Campbell. 02:11:39.068 --> 02:11:43.009 He's going to give you a little information on the flu vaccine and how good it is. 02:11:43.249 --> 02:11:43.749 Let's listen. 02:11:45.350 --> 02:11:52.520 A large study at the Cleveland Clinic found out that the flu vaccine, the influenza vaccine over last winter, wasn't that effective. 02:11:53.000 --> 02:11:54.622 In fact, it had a negative efficacy. 02:11:55.223 --> 02:11:56.885 It's all one malevolent show. 02:11:57.734 --> 02:12:11.720 And John Campbell is on exactly the same team that CHD is on, the exact same team that Sasha Latapova is on, the exact same team that Kevin McCairn and Kevin McKernan are on, the exact same team that Heart and Panda are on. 02:12:12.160 --> 02:12:17.742 It is all one malevolent show that even the frickin' Brownstone Institute is in on. 02:12:17.882 --> 02:12:19.363 It is an absolute 02:12:20.183 --> 02:12:22.505 travesty that more people cannot see it. 02:12:22.645 --> 02:12:27.950 It's so obvious to me, it makes me want to vomit every time I wake up in the morning and start to look at it. 02:12:27.970 --> 02:12:30.432 26.9 percent. 02:12:30.552 --> 02:12:39.640 In other words, if you took this flu vaccine, you were 26.9 percent more likely, more likely to get influenza. 02:12:41.661 --> 02:12:42.842 Okay, yippee. 02:12:42.902 --> 02:12:45.204 So that's their great flu vaccine. 02:12:45.990 --> 02:12:51.312 which the fact that they're allowed to use the term vaccine is mind-bending, right? 02:12:51.332 --> 02:12:51.832 Mind-bending. 02:12:51.912 --> 02:12:55.053 What does that mean that they're allowed to use the term vaccine? 02:12:55.113 --> 02:12:56.334 Why is that mind-bending? 02:12:56.354 --> 02:12:58.534 You don't even know what the term vaccine means. 02:12:58.995 --> 02:12:59.755 What does it mean? 02:13:00.740 --> 02:13:05.301 something that's safe to inject to augment your immune system, define one. 02:13:05.621 --> 02:13:09.563 You see, he's completely trapped in the semantics. 02:13:10.003 --> 02:13:15.504 He's using their words and thinking he's smart because he's rearranging them instead of redefining them. 02:13:15.544 --> 02:13:16.005 Do you see? 02:13:16.805 --> 02:13:17.425 It's a joke. 02:13:19.465 --> 02:13:26.069 because not only did last year's vaccine not prevent you from getting it, it made it more likely that you would get it. 02:13:26.089 --> 02:13:26.330 More likely. 02:13:26.750 --> 02:13:31.733 And this was a huge study, Jimmy, of all of the employees in the Cleveland Clinic. 02:13:31.813 --> 02:13:34.334 And, you know, it was some who took the shot and some who didn't. 02:13:34.915 --> 02:13:41.519 She's still not saving any American kids from the absurd schedule that the CDC recommends. 02:13:41.639 --> 02:13:43.680 She has not saved any kids. 02:13:44.500 --> 02:13:47.943 She has not made any parents aware that weren't already aware. 02:13:48.863 --> 02:13:51.205 And certainly not since the start of the pandemic. 02:13:51.245 --> 02:13:53.887 This is one of the most malevolent traders in America. 02:13:53.967 --> 02:13:59.031 Mary Holland is one of the worst and most malevolent traders in America. 02:13:59.071 --> 02:14:02.974 She is a fraud and she's been a fraud for about 20 years. 02:14:03.355 --> 02:14:05.376 This is really definitive information. 02:14:05.957 --> 02:14:10.480 And in a good year, Jimmy, these are only up to about 50% effective. 02:14:10.641 --> 02:14:13.603 And then you have all the risk of adverse events from the shots. 02:14:13.683 --> 02:14:16.345 So, you know, we just don't have this right yet. 02:14:16.405 --> 02:14:17.026 That's clear. 02:14:17.540 --> 02:14:18.961 So here's how the corporate knew. 02:14:19.001 --> 02:14:20.283 Here's from CNBC. 02:14:20.723 --> 02:14:25.447 Here's how they covered the vote at the CDC to take mercury out of the vaccines. 02:14:26.148 --> 02:14:31.953 A revamped government panel of vaccine advisors with newly appointed immunization skeptics. 02:14:33.035 --> 02:14:39.079 has voted against a mercury-containing shot ingredient that the anti-vaccine movement has long targeted. 02:14:39.459 --> 02:15:00.113 The group, called the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, or ACIP, voted Thursday to recommend annual single-dose flu vaccines to Americans and against influenza shots containing thimerosal, mercury, even though there is no evidence of harm from that preservative. 02:15:00.233 --> 02:15:01.754 Did you just hear Joe Scarborough? 02:15:02.574 --> 02:15:02.954 Correct. 02:15:03.154 --> 02:15:03.354 Yeah. 02:15:03.534 --> 02:15:04.315 It's ridiculous. 02:15:04.595 --> 02:15:05.735 Injecting mercury. 02:15:05.755 --> 02:15:05.995 Sorry. 02:15:06.035 --> 02:15:06.355 Finish. 02:15:06.495 --> 02:15:06.716 Yeah. 02:15:07.076 --> 02:15:10.137 It was his first ACIP meeting since health. 02:15:10.217 --> 02:15:22.961 It was the first ACIP meeting since Health and Human Services Secretary RFK gutted the panel and stacked it with new members, including... So much of the brain damage is site inflammation, right? 02:15:23.001 --> 02:15:26.223 If you cause inflammation in the brain, it doesn't matter how you cause it. 02:15:26.363 --> 02:15:27.443 That's part of the problem. 02:15:27.723 --> 02:15:30.366 several well-known vaccine skeptics. 02:15:30.826 --> 02:15:35.250 The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention still needs to sign off on the recommendation. 02:15:35.630 --> 02:15:40.154 If the agency does, it would affect roughly 4 to 5 percent of the U.S. 02:15:40.215 --> 02:15:41.476 flu vaccine supply. 02:15:42.276 --> 02:15:45.820 The rest, so that sounds like, oh well, that's not a big deal, right? 02:15:45.840 --> 02:15:46.881 Well, listen to what they say. 02:15:47.441 --> 02:15:52.465 The rest of the nation's flu shots were thimerosal free during the last season of the virus. 02:15:52.725 --> 02:15:54.547 So why why can't you make that? 02:15:54.607 --> 02:15:55.668 So while they are doing it. 02:15:56.208 --> 02:16:01.632 But when it comes to vaccinating an entire country, quote, small percentages matter. 02:16:02.453 --> 02:16:09.879 Dr. O'Leary, Sean O'Leary, an infectious disease expert with the American Academy of Pediatrics, told he's in over his head. 02:16:09.919 --> 02:16:11.721 He doesn't know what point he's going to make here. 02:16:11.761 --> 02:16:13.242 It's probably going to fall on its face. 02:16:13.701 --> 02:16:18.505 reporters last week and I'm sure he's not being paid off at all by the big pharma industry. 02:16:19.106 --> 02:16:24.611 If the few if the few thimerosal containing flu shots were removed from the market 02:16:25.387 --> 02:16:44.594 that would inevitably lead to fewer people being vaccinated and it's a script you see he's supposed to feel like he's solving the puzzle and catching them in a contradiction so that mary can say yeah you caught him you're pretty smart but i've been fighting these guys for much longer than you so welcome to the show 02:16:46.027 --> 02:16:52.491 least in the short term, perhaps longer term, and subsequently more hospitalizations and death. 02:16:52.791 --> 02:16:58.335 I just showed you the biggest study ever showed you that the flu shot actually makes it more likely for you to get sick. 02:16:59.696 --> 02:17:06.960 The recommendation also, so this is just a liar, and I will guarantee you that this guy's getting money somewhere. 02:17:07.181 --> 02:17:10.643 This Dr. O'Leary is getting money somewhere to lie to you. 02:17:10.983 --> 02:17:15.206 And he's just unaware that he's getting money to lie to you from Rumble. 02:17:16.192 --> 02:17:18.313 He's just unaware that he's lying to you. 02:17:18.353 --> 02:17:19.893 That's all because he's an idiot. 02:17:25.395 --> 02:17:30.156 About mercury in vaccines and the efficacy of the flu vaccine in general. 02:17:31.136 --> 02:17:33.977 Because the efficacy of the flu vaccine, not good. 02:17:35.114 --> 02:17:44.516 The recommendation also reinforces long-standing, unfounded fears that the substance can lead to developmental disabilities such as autism. 02:17:44.736 --> 02:17:49.357 So they're saying that putting mercury into a baby is a good idea. 02:17:49.457 --> 02:17:50.837 That's what CNBC is saying. 02:17:51.077 --> 02:17:56.799 And that if you have a fear of putting mercury in a baby... Remember what the first video said that I showed you? 02:17:57.079 --> 02:17:58.739 That it's... He's just a useful idiot. 02:17:59.179 --> 02:18:15.354 he's just doing the useful idiot performance and uh that's the reason why you know he's full of shit um it's pretty remarkable containing vaccine you have to call a hazmat team to come kick it up but you can inject it into a baby and cnbc says you're nuts 02:18:16.115 --> 02:18:20.396 You're nuts if you think there's a problem with sticking mercury into a baby. 02:18:20.476 --> 02:18:24.897 Kennedy's vaccine skepticism comes full circle with the panel's vote. 02:18:25.257 --> 02:18:35.059 A decade before stepping into his current role, he published a book that called for the removal of thimerosal mercury from shots and linked it to developmental disorders. 02:18:35.439 --> 02:18:37.439 A very common- He wrote a book. 02:18:37.639 --> 02:18:39.280 Surprise, surprise, right? 02:18:40.285 --> 02:18:44.046 anti-vaccine talking point is around thimerosal. 02:18:44.266 --> 02:18:48.748 So that's a very clear strategy to sow distrust in vaccines. 02:18:49.308 --> 02:18:56.170 Let me just show, so that's how the mainstream news, and let me just show you one more quick video about how great this flu vaccine is. 02:18:56.430 --> 02:19:04.313 This is from almost 20 years ago now on CBS News, and of course this woman doesn't work for CBS anymore because she's about to tell you this. 02:19:04.841 --> 02:19:06.422 Here's what scientists have found. 02:19:06.842 --> 02:19:11.543 Over 20 years, the percentage of seniors getting flu shots increased sharply from 15% to 65%. 02:19:12.984 --> 02:19:20.286 It stands to reason that flu deaths among the elderly should have taken a dramatic dip, making an X graph like this. 02:19:20.887 --> 02:19:24.348 Instead, flu deaths among the elderly continue to climb. 02:19:24.868 --> 02:19:33.731 It was hard to believe, so researchers at the National Institutes of Health set out to do a study adjusting for all kinds of factors that could be masking the true benefits of the shots. 02:19:33.991 --> 02:19:38.062 But no matter how they crunched the numbers, they got the same disappointing result. 02:19:38.443 --> 02:19:41.451 Flu shots have not reduced deaths among the elderly. 02:19:43.829 --> 02:20:09.799 not what so that that's your great flu shot CNBC and dr. liar O'Leary and so that's how the so that's how they covered sticking mercury in so he still can't see that autism is a lie he still can't see that intramuscular injection is the lie he still can't see that pandemics are the lie he still can't see the transfection is the lie because even though I gave him the book he's just not gonna look at it they're all liars ladies and gentlemen 02:20:12.694 --> 02:20:14.715 There is no reason to believe Mary Holland. 02:20:14.755 --> 02:20:16.516 There's no reason to believe Robert Malone. 02:20:16.536 --> 02:20:18.457 There's no reason to believe Brian Hooker. 02:20:18.517 --> 02:20:23.100 They are all spectacularly committed to these lies like the rest of these organizations have been. 02:20:24.221 --> 02:20:25.502 They are awful people. 02:20:25.642 --> 02:20:34.547 They are liars and they must know by now because I've told them that there was an anticipated rise in all cause mortality that was sculpted using manslaughter and lies. 02:20:34.987 --> 02:20:39.410 It was anticipated and timed perfectly with this rollout of dumb PCR 02:20:40.011 --> 02:20:45.152 without the requisite controls, positive and negative, necessary to be a diagnostic in the first place. 02:20:47.538 --> 02:20:49.779 And if Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 02:20:49.939 --> 02:20:56.660 or Brian Hooker or Mary Holland were really trying to save our children, a lot more people would be skeptical of vaccines by now. 02:20:57.341 --> 02:21:01.242 And more importantly, a lot more people would realize it after the pandemic started. 02:21:01.282 --> 02:21:13.985 But instead, they built a big top tent of health freedom and avoided talking about the basics of the murder, including by helping to obfuscate what really happened to Grace Shara 02:21:14.805 --> 02:21:19.827 and promoting Grace's dad as some kind of spiritual guru now. 02:21:20.267 --> 02:21:21.108 This is a joke. 02:21:21.208 --> 02:21:23.849 These people are traitors to our grandchildren. 02:21:23.889 --> 02:21:25.890 There's a very succinct explanation. 02:21:26.430 --> 02:21:29.811 They murdered people in America and they lied around the world about it. 02:21:29.871 --> 02:21:31.092 And these people are guilty. 02:21:31.692 --> 02:21:35.313 Just like endemicity of racism is not real. 02:21:36.414 --> 02:21:40.976 Endemicity of an RNA that was leaked in a mud puddle is also not real. 02:21:41.896 --> 02:21:44.737 They use non-specific PCR tests to make it happen. 02:21:45.237 --> 02:21:47.917 And then they use placebo to make the shot safe. 02:21:47.997 --> 02:21:52.158 And maybe it's not a placebo anymore because they don't need to because everybody's willing now. 02:21:52.638 --> 02:21:55.838 But using their test to find their ghost does not make their ghost real. 02:21:56.379 --> 02:21:57.919 And it doesn't make you a ghostbuster. 02:21:57.979 --> 02:21:59.959 That I know for absolute certain. 02:22:00.799 --> 02:22:02.940 Ladies and gentlemen, this is for all the marbles. 02:22:03.020 --> 02:22:04.280 It's for all the children of earth. 02:22:04.540 --> 02:22:07.480 And if you don't realize it, then you're not fighting in the right way. 02:22:07.540 --> 02:22:09.401 And the actions you take will be useless. 02:22:09.441 --> 02:22:10.441 Get off social media. 02:22:11.741 --> 02:22:17.165 Remember intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb. 02:22:17.645 --> 02:22:23.429 Remember that transfection in healthy humans is always dangerous and remember that viruses are not pattern integrities. 02:22:24.609 --> 02:22:28.372 These are the main players that I know of that I have personal 02:22:30.086 --> 02:22:30.786 I know for sure. 02:22:32.046 --> 02:22:34.487 And I'm going to be on probably tomorrow morning. 02:22:34.527 --> 02:22:39.108 I was probably just giving you a... I was probably just faking you out because I don't want the streak to end. 02:22:39.628 --> 02:22:41.328 But it might be a shorter show tomorrow. 02:22:42.248 --> 02:22:45.629 And then Wednesday on, we'll be back and working full time. 02:22:45.649 --> 02:22:47.069 I love you guys very much. 02:22:47.109 --> 02:22:47.930 Thanks for being here. 02:22:48.010 --> 02:22:50.810 Sorry for the long one, but you know, that's what I do. 02:22:52.390 --> 02:22:53.031 See you soon. 02:22:53.231 --> 02:22:53.891 See you soon. 02:22:53.911 --> 02:22:54.931 See you soon. 02:23:05.196 --> 02:23:10.443 I can't explain this paper unless you understand that its authors are there for a reason. 02:23:10.543 --> 02:23:19.935 That the authors like Robert Malone and Tess Laurie and Jessica Rose and Harvey Reich 02:23:22.277 --> 02:23:35.451 and steve and hatfield are not there by accident they're there because they are part of this narrative control um claire craig would love to hear that a hundred thousand look at a hundred thousand babies with their genetic code 02:23:35.971 --> 02:23:39.733 is exactly what Claire Craig was doing at the beginning of the pandemic. 02:23:39.833 --> 02:23:40.753 Interesting, isn't it? 02:23:40.773 --> 02:23:44.015 It's all one continuous narrative, ladies and gentlemen. 02:23:44.495 --> 02:23:46.336 The voice that you hear is Jonathan J. 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