WEBVTT 00:02.328 --> 00:06.430 I think he's right on calling them transfections rather than vaccines. 00:07.251 --> 00:07.731 Actually, J.J. 00:07.771 --> 00:14.374 Cooey's insistence, and I think he's right on calling them transfections rather than vaccines. 00:15.175 --> 00:15.675 Actually, J.J. 00:15.715 --> 00:22.358 Cooey's insistence, and I think he's right on calling them transfections rather than vaccines. 00:23.119 --> 00:23.619 Actually, J.J. 00:23.639 --> 00:30.262 Cooey's insistence, and I think he's right on calling them transfections rather than vaccines. 00:34.838 --> 00:43.804 The one thing I am confident of, from everything I've read, is that this RNA exists, you can capture it, you can sequence it, you can move it to other cells and re-capitulate disease. 00:43.824 --> 00:52.790 The one thing I am confident of, from everything I've read, is that this RNA exists, you can capture it, you can sequence it, you can move it to other cells and re-capitulate disease. 00:52.830 --> 01:01.376 The one thing I am confident of, from everything I've read, is that this RNA exists, you can capture it, you can sequence it, you can move it to other cells and re-capitulate disease. 01:01.876 --> 01:09.184 But one thing I am confident of, from everything I've read, is that this RNA exists, you can capture it, you can sequence it, you can move it to other cells. 01:11.204 --> 01:12.746 It's a 200-year myth. 01:13.106 --> 01:20.894 It's a 200-year multi-generational indoctrination that vaccines are safe, effective, necessary, and harmless. 01:21.134 --> 01:23.536 And every one of those statements I just made are lies. 01:23.756 --> 01:24.857 Vaccines are not safe. 01:25.258 --> 01:32.205 Not one vaccine has ever been proven to be safe because they don't use true placebos, number one, and they don't follow them long enough to see 01:32.805 --> 01:35.186 All they're looking for is, did it make you die? 01:35.206 --> 01:37.086 And if you didn't die, they call it safe. 01:37.566 --> 01:46.148 They never talk about asthma, allergies, eczema, ADD, ADHD, the longest neurological problems, the autoimmune diseases that take a long time to develop. 01:46.628 --> 01:47.608 None of that is followed. 01:48.008 --> 01:59.911 Because if it's more than 72 hours later that you develop a side effect, it says, well, that has nothing to do with obesity, which is an arbitrary line that was drawn in the sand in the early 1990s by the FDA. 02:06.988 --> 02:09.730 It's like Jay said, the RNA can't pandemic. 02:09.950 --> 02:10.410 It can't. 02:11.031 --> 02:14.793 And there's no reason to discuss this anymore because it's clear. 02:15.694 --> 02:19.777 And if it's clear, we shouldn't waste time talking about it. 02:19.797 --> 02:25.281 It's like Jay said, the RNA can't pandemic. 02:25.541 --> 02:26.001 It can't. 02:26.642 --> 02:30.404 And there's no reason to discuss this anymore because it's clear. 02:31.305 --> 02:35.388 And if it's clear, we shouldn't waste time talking about it. 02:37.580 --> 02:40.861 It's like Jay said, the RNA can't pandemic. 02:41.101 --> 02:41.582 It can't. 02:42.202 --> 02:45.943 And there's no reason to discuss this anymore because it's clear. 02:45.963 --> 02:50.445 And if it's clear, we shouldn't waste time talking. 02:52.099 --> 03:05.725 Secretary Kennedy and Marty and Jay are operating in a very complicated political landscape and they just don't have the latitude to act unilaterally. 03:05.785 --> 03:16.589 Secretary Kennedy and Marty and Jay are operating in a very complicated political landscape and they just don't have 03:49.446 --> 04:02.757 And then there are people who have inspired a lot of thought for me, people like JJ Cui, regarded by a few people, by some people, as sort of this kind of 04:04.420 --> 04:16.486 savant or idiot or something, that his ideas are just too terrible and too incompatible with the biology that they learnt, and in many ways they are, but that's throwing baby after bath water. 04:16.786 --> 04:27.392 I mean the best thinkers in the world all fall through and suffer through the consequences of ten bad ideas for every good one, you know, the best creative thinkers. 04:28.613 --> 04:42.987 And so if you're going to jump on every one of the ideas that a person comes up with that you don't disagree with, that you don't agree with, and use that as tar to smear the person, I think that's just, you're never going to get ahead in the world yourself. 04:43.007 --> 04:46.310 You won't find the muses, the creative inspiration. 04:47.111 --> 04:50.795 So I certainly think that JJ Cooley's overall take is very good. 05:06.107 --> 05:08.729 You know, you can sort of feel it in people. 05:10.490 --> 05:11.171 And I have lied. 05:11.191 --> 05:12.252 I'm sure I'll lie again. 05:12.272 --> 05:13.212 I don't want to lie. 05:13.693 --> 05:15.034 You know, I don't think I'm a liar. 05:15.174 --> 05:16.195 I try not to be a liar. 05:16.215 --> 05:17.075 I don't want to be a liar. 05:17.636 --> 05:20.338 I think it's like really important not to be a liar. 05:29.096 --> 05:30.657 I think truth is good for kids. 05:31.098 --> 05:34.940 We're so busy lying, we don't even recognize the truth no more in this society. 05:35.401 --> 05:37.022 We want everybody to feel good. 05:37.142 --> 05:39.324 That's not the way life is. 06:00.488 --> 06:01.249 Good morning, everybody. 06:01.289 --> 06:01.929 Welcome to the show. 06:01.949 --> 06:09.194 This is Giga Home Biological, a high resistance, low noise information brief brought to you by someone with a rather damaged and sore throat. 06:09.214 --> 06:14.477 I'm not really sure what's going on, so I'm going to try and take it easy on my voice today. 06:14.497 --> 06:20.761 I will turn up the volume just a little bit, which may be annoying, but that's what we got to do. 06:22.022 --> 06:24.384 Thank you for your concern via email. 06:24.624 --> 06:27.926 I'm not really sure what's going on. 06:29.147 --> 06:30.787 Maybe I got stuff growing in there again. 06:30.847 --> 06:31.167 I don't know. 06:31.387 --> 06:32.088 Oh, it's hot in here. 06:33.488 --> 06:35.548 There's not a lot I can do about it. 06:36.129 --> 06:37.849 If that's what's happening, that's what's happening. 06:39.229 --> 06:41.290 The message is basically available. 06:42.710 --> 06:52.292 If I have to go offline right now and you're left with downloading the videos that I've made and posted to PeerTube, which are all available for download, 06:53.737 --> 06:55.358 I don't know how bad off we would be. 06:55.439 --> 06:58.942 I don't know how much farther the messaging really needs to go. 06:59.602 --> 07:10.612 You could get all the clips and all the clever statements and all the 1, 2, 3 elevator pitches you wanted out of the last year and a half of videos which are available on PeerTube. 07:10.672 --> 07:15.135 So as much as it's annoying for me that my voice hurts and my throat hurts and 07:16.240 --> 07:18.961 feels like stuff is getting in the way. 07:18.981 --> 07:22.943 I don't know what to tell you. 07:24.404 --> 07:35.710 I already knew that I was giving everything, so if losing my voice or my throat or whatever is part of this game, that's just the way it is. 07:36.710 --> 07:39.071 I don't have any qualms about this. 07:40.982 --> 07:42.963 I'm staying focused on the biology. 07:42.983 --> 07:45.524 57 years old bladder cancer. 07:45.584 --> 07:50.347 I think for a lot of us, we keep hearing this same refrain and it's getting a little alarming. 07:50.407 --> 07:53.708 Are we just hearing more about it or is it actually happening more frequently? 07:53.728 --> 08:00.752 Well, you know, I'm broadcasting from Dallas and here in Dallas, we love Dion Sanders, former Dallas Cowboy. 08:00.912 --> 08:01.312 Absolutely. 08:01.332 --> 08:03.293 You know, two way player played baseball. 08:04.105 --> 08:05.946 Incredible sports figure. 08:06.166 --> 08:06.626 Please. 08:06.906 --> 08:13.690 Thank you, Tony, so much for telling me that the PeerTube app works as well for you as it does for me. 08:14.470 --> 08:18.972 I too am so pleasantly surprised at the functionality of it. 08:19.152 --> 08:27.476 Maybe at the end of the show, I'll show you how to upload it again and how to find our website or how to put the stream.gigaohm.bio in there. 08:28.116 --> 08:29.957 But I'm so happy you put that in the chat. 08:29.997 --> 08:30.678 Thank you very much. 08:30.718 --> 08:31.378 That made my day. 08:31.843 --> 08:38.889 Well, father and family man, he's been wrapped with COVID-19 vaccine complications from the very beginning. 08:39.490 --> 08:41.772 You had a family history of peripheral tear disease. 08:41.812 --> 08:46.215 He previously had turf toe when he played, and so he had altered anatomy of his foot. 08:46.696 --> 08:55.604 He developed COVID-19 vaccine blood clots, arterial and venous, and several years ago, after he was pushing the vaccine hard, 08:56.704 --> 08:58.205 We know he took multiple doses. 08:58.725 --> 09:00.186 He nearly lost his leg. 09:00.246 --> 09:02.026 He had multiple surgeries. 09:02.427 --> 09:04.568 He made a docuseries on this. 09:05.308 --> 09:06.508 It's been absolutely tragic. 09:06.549 --> 09:12.891 He didn't put two and two together that the vaccines had promoted his lower extremity blood clot syndrome. 09:12.951 --> 09:13.852 And now we hear. 09:14.389 --> 09:15.430 So it's interesting, right? 09:15.470 --> 09:16.550 He lives in Dallas. 09:16.610 --> 09:18.111 He's a very famous American. 09:18.511 --> 09:27.216 Um, and he somehow couldn't get in touch with, with Deon Sanders after he heard that Deon Sanders had clots and lost his toes. 09:27.396 --> 09:28.597 It's, it's bizarre. 09:29.657 --> 09:30.458 It's bizarre. 09:30.858 --> 09:34.780 Um, but we know that this is a scripted fraud. 09:35.440 --> 09:38.262 Um, we know that this guy is on Robert Malone's script. 09:38.762 --> 09:40.443 Um, early in the pandemic he did, 09:41.189 --> 09:52.975 a lot of work with Robert Malone and Ryan Cole, some of which was on Zoom meetings, some of which was touring around, and then split off into The Wellness Company. 09:54.016 --> 10:04.942 My assumption is that that's all one kind of malevolent show because, you know, it's kind of hard to share all these details because there's just so many of them, they're so interwoven, but 10:06.038 --> 10:13.802 the inaugural CHD conference, which sounds kind of odd, but they'd never had a conference until 2022 in Knoxville, Tennessee. 10:14.622 --> 10:28.949 And I attended as staff member of the writing team at the time, not working for CHD, but working for Bobby Kennedy, even though I now understand it in retrospect as always having worked for the publishing part of CHD. 10:28.989 --> 10:31.710 So essentially it's the same, it's all the same paycheck. 10:32.781 --> 10:36.824 It was just a question of whether they were paying me as an employee or as a consultant. 10:36.884 --> 10:50.673 And so, the important thing to understand here is that CHD and their whole operation wasn't something that spontaneously occurred. 10:50.793 --> 11:01.600 It seems in retrospect that CHD was an environmental organization called the World Mercury 11:02.856 --> 11:30.279 something or other world mercury project and it was a pet project of robert f kennedy jr as an environmentalist and in 2018 he was persuaded and we can use that word very loosely here to also maybe describe a edit to his previous script given to him by his handlers now it's important to understand that one thing that happened during 11:31.059 --> 11:36.360 the campaign for president, which I found to be quite dishonest. 11:37.900 --> 11:42.361 And in fact, this dishonesty went on after Trump was elected. 11:42.661 --> 11:51.343 And it was a really bad sign for me at that time when I still was clinging to some thread of hope that maybe Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 11:51.443 --> 11:55.484 just needed to hear it right and then he would finally do the right thing or something like that. 11:56.724 --> 11:59.045 And the thing that bothers me really is 12:00.453 --> 12:00.874 is this. 12:02.557 --> 12:08.607 It was a very disingenuous moment in the movement to become president. 12:08.627 --> 12:11.873 There were a number of very, very disingenuous moments. 12:11.933 --> 12:12.494 The complete 12:13.169 --> 12:18.193 ignoring of the opioid pandemic, the way that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 12:18.233 --> 12:25.958 stepped away from CHD, along with Mary Holland, and the Tony Lyons guy from Skyhorse. 12:25.998 --> 12:37.627 So it's a really weird, you know, and then Dell joined them, and so it's a really weird group of people that went from, you know, anti-vax, fighting for the health of children, to running for president. 12:38.847 --> 12:40.969 That's one really big red flag. 12:41.930 --> 13:05.269 Another really big red flag was the way that this whole CHD conference actually took place in the end, because there were so many people that showed up at the inaugural CHD conference in one place, following me around, trying to sit at my table, and the list is almost too extraordinary to mention, and includes people like Whitney Webb, 13:07.279 --> 13:13.583 I have signed copies of her books as a result of meeting her at the inaugural CHD conference. 13:15.484 --> 13:19.206 I met Matt Crawford there, the first and only time I met his wife. 13:21.107 --> 13:22.848 I met Ryan Cole there. 13:23.108 --> 13:28.591 I met Jill Glasspool Malone and Robert Malone. 13:29.832 --> 13:30.713 I did not meet him. 13:30.793 --> 13:31.493 He was not there. 13:31.553 --> 13:32.534 I met Pierre Corey. 13:34.335 --> 13:35.195 I met Paul Merrick. 13:37.174 --> 13:58.234 really interesting and I of course I met Charles Rixey at the inaugural CHD conference and that was the second time in 2022 that I had met Charles Rixey in person he actually came to my house in January of the same year and it was the supposedly the stream that I did with Charles Rixey in January of 2022 that Robert Malone told 14:01.080 --> 14:03.282 Senator Ron Johnson and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 14:03.322 --> 14:07.926 to watch in April, which spurred them to call me in April and ask for my help. 14:08.707 --> 14:18.796 And so now, you know, it's, it's pretty incredible that in 2022, we really had this, the murder was still happening until the end of 2022. 14:18.836 --> 14:27.243 And it was only our 2021 and the beginning of 2022 is only after the murder stopped that these people suddenly decided to call me. 14:28.769 --> 14:31.270 If you look at the numbers, it's really quite extraordinary. 14:31.950 --> 14:41.752 And so this inaugural CHD conference was really, really something to remember from the perspective of looking back and trying to think what was going on. 14:41.772 --> 14:48.074 Because at that conference, I was told by Matt Crawford and by, uh, um, 14:50.094 --> 14:56.239 Ryan Cole and by Robert Malone that the, that the wellness company might be bad guys. 14:56.359 --> 14:59.302 And that, that means that Peter McCullough might be a bad guy. 15:03.445 --> 15:18.298 And so this theater has gone on a very long time and it is because of that one little incident, that one little group theater where Matt Crawford and Robert Malone and Ryan Cole pretended to be meeting 15:19.898 --> 15:33.887 you know, over by the windows in the comfy chairs and reported to be meeting to discuss the wellness company and the potential implications for whether or not they should continue to cooperate with Peter McCullough. 15:35.748 --> 15:44.714 And what I didn't understand at the time was that theater was designed to make me think they were good guys looking at people very critically. 15:45.600 --> 15:53.085 At that same conference, Rixey told me that it's really funny that Robert Malone couldn't remember you because he remembered me and he invited me to his farm. 15:53.425 --> 15:55.707 And he told me that three times in two days. 15:56.768 --> 15:58.309 Like I didn't remember it. 15:59.109 --> 16:06.895 Even though according to his friend McCairn and himself, who streamed together for a year after that conference, 16:07.947 --> 16:10.829 that I'm somehow damaged by my marijuana use. 16:11.490 --> 16:23.239 But it's these people who repeat things over and over and can't seem to remember anything, so they never make any progress on any idea or any concept, even over decades. 16:26.582 --> 16:34.329 And so here we have somebody who's talking about a real tragic story of a potential 16:35.749 --> 16:59.502 Celebrity that could be woken up to the truth and you wouldn't even have to slap him in the face with it because there are other Celebrities and sportsmen that that you could slap him in the face with like Kyrie Irving And there are several others that have experienced problems as a result of taking Moderna or Pfizer and this is a open door 17:00.598 --> 17:09.764 to break the illusion, and he doesn't really seem to be too excited about it, even though we really love the Deion Sanders who does two sports and stuff. 17:10.065 --> 17:18.090 That he has severe invasive bladder cancer requiring a total replacement of the bladder. 17:18.130 --> 17:19.451 It's essentially unheard of. 17:19.491 --> 17:22.793 I've never seen that in my clinical practice in a man in his 50s. 17:23.654 --> 17:26.296 This is a very, very serious surgery. 17:26.872 --> 17:31.697 You have to take part of the colon, refashion a bladder, connect the ureters, the urethra. 17:32.618 --> 17:33.939 This is a big deal. 17:33.960 --> 17:41.207 It's actually a modern surgical miracle that he's had complete extirpation of the bladder. 17:42.108 --> 17:44.550 But we have to ask the question, why? 17:45.250 --> 18:03.624 And until oncologists and surgeons and the victims themselves, until they ask the question, could the COVID-19 vaccine be related to what we call a turbo cancer, that is a very aggressive cancer, we're not going to get a level set on reality. 18:03.664 --> 18:11.330 There are now thousands of papers pointing to the fact that the new genetic messenger RNA vaccines could promote cancer. 18:12.759 --> 18:27.755 Now there is a problem, sorry I didn't mean to do that, there is a problem with this and I want to point it out quick because of course the underlying narrative here which ties back to the traitor, scripted traitor from the Human Genome Project named Kevin McKernan, 18:28.663 --> 18:36.866 who is running around the internet telling everybody that there's DNA plasmids that contain a specific sequence, which is called SV40. 18:37.706 --> 18:46.649 And this SV40 promoter is what's going to be molecularly blamed as a mechanism behind these turbo cancers. 18:46.829 --> 18:52.170 Even though Dr. Peter McCullough doesn't drop that, that is absolutely for certain, 100% the script that he is on. 18:54.585 --> 19:01.086 And if he was pressed by that interviewer by an unexpected question about it, that is precisely the answer he would give. 19:02.247 --> 19:03.507 Now make no mistake about it. 19:03.567 --> 19:06.788 I really do believe that Peter McCullough is a scripted bullshitter. 19:07.468 --> 19:11.389 I do not think he can be characterized as being unwitting anymore. 19:12.109 --> 19:14.069 Um, he might not want to know all the details. 19:14.109 --> 19:21.091 He might not have asked any questions cause he doesn't want to know all the details, but he definitely knows where the third rails of the narrative are. 19:21.551 --> 19:31.315 He will never say what he said about three years ago, one time on an obscure podcast, that if he was challenged to do it again, he wouldn't do any of the vaccines. 19:31.355 --> 19:32.135 He'll never say that. 19:32.175 --> 19:33.115 Don't worry, he won't. 19:34.056 --> 19:35.436 I don't know why that advanced. 19:36.937 --> 19:40.798 Oh yeah, it's time for the intro. 19:40.958 --> 19:41.838 That's right, cool. 19:42.239 --> 19:48.901 I don't care how you get there. 19:50.256 --> 19:51.637 I don't care what you do to get there. 19:51.657 --> 19:54.259 The goal is to win. 20:06.536 --> 20:08.377 All right, let's get this started, okay? 20:08.417 --> 20:09.878 We got a lot of work to do today. 20:10.278 --> 20:13.539 I'm just going to push it and see how far I can go with it. 20:13.739 --> 20:15.220 If I have to stop talking, I will. 20:16.601 --> 20:20.063 I'm really excited today because I think they're starting to make mistakes. 20:20.923 --> 20:26.666 I think they're starting to really make mistakes and I think there's an opportunity here to show our kids 20:27.526 --> 20:33.131 and to show everyone on earth and expose them for what they are, these frauds. 20:34.232 --> 20:39.337 And I think we can do it on a mass scale if we can share the messages that we're putting down. 20:40.618 --> 20:42.840 Rule by podcast definitely continues. 20:43.480 --> 20:44.321 That's for sure. 20:44.341 --> 20:54.150 And it is something that we can stop because we can show them that these people are frauds on Robert Malone's really dumb script. 20:55.154 --> 20:57.375 That's really the most magnificent thing about it. 20:57.455 --> 21:08.781 They're so trusting in the script they got from Robert Malone and Kevin McKernan that they go forward knowing that it won for the last four years, assuming that it will win for four more years. 21:10.422 --> 21:12.623 It is absolutely remarkable. 21:12.683 --> 21:15.244 There's no other way to describe Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 21:15.304 --> 21:16.105 other than being a 21:17.043 --> 21:20.825 a person who has trusted a script for a very long time. 21:22.446 --> 21:25.648 And these other two characters, boy, I don't even know what to say. 21:25.668 --> 21:28.810 I don't have anything nice to say, so my grandma would say I shouldn't say anything. 21:29.470 --> 21:35.374 These actors were put in place to curate a narrative to make sure any damage from transfection could be blamed effectively on the novel virus. 21:35.874 --> 21:40.056 These people were scripted by Robert Malone, Kevin McKernan, and other employees of the U.S. 21:40.076 --> 21:40.476 government. 21:41.357 --> 21:46.600 The ghost of health freedom is part of the way you're being managed and being governed on social media. 21:47.140 --> 21:51.342 And they maintain the illusion of consensus by sticking to the provided script. 21:54.724 --> 22:01.108 And so if you stay focused on the biology, don't take their bait, and love your neighbor, you might be able to see through the Scooby-Doo mystery. 22:01.148 --> 22:07.671 But we are still, still being fooled by the mystery, the ghost of health freedom. 22:08.952 --> 22:11.854 The ghost of health freedom is really 22:12.714 --> 22:13.414 is living on. 22:13.475 --> 22:24.340 The real ghosts of health freedom are Tony Bark and Brandy Vaughn, both dead in 2020, probably murdered in order that these people might get on with the show, in order that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 22:24.360 --> 22:25.761 might make a run for the White House. 22:26.502 --> 22:27.242 I shit you not. 22:28.042 --> 22:30.704 That's really what we are on here. 22:31.804 --> 22:38.408 There is a fake health freedom movement because intramuscular injection is a dumb idea from the late 1800s. 22:38.688 --> 22:41.470 There is a fake health freedom movement in America because 22:42.270 --> 22:49.048 Autism Spectrum Disorder is a mythology because pandemics and gain of function are mythologies. 22:50.046 --> 23:08.251 And the failure that is Children's Health Defense and ICANN can be clearly seen in the fact that they, in all their work and millions of dollars and high salaries and potentially hundreds of employees, they've never managed to score these touchdowns. 23:08.731 --> 23:10.312 They've just never managed to do it. 23:11.012 --> 23:17.514 And that reveals almost all of their long-term employees as being scripted traitors. 23:18.414 --> 23:28.063 They at some point had to know that they were not playing the right game, that they were taking a big salary from an organization that wasn't going to win. 23:28.864 --> 23:34.228 And I think that all of these people deserve to suffer for the rest of their lives the kind of public scorn 23:35.009 --> 23:37.590 that traitors and frauds deserve. 23:37.870 --> 23:38.710 I mean, I really do. 23:39.791 --> 23:42.091 And right now, I think there are some in our chat. 23:42.151 --> 23:52.235 I mean, it's almost certain that even in the chat of this show, there are people who essentially played along with the fake health freedom movement, even long after they knew 23:52.864 --> 23:54.885 that the fake health freedom movement was fake. 23:55.705 --> 24:00.266 And these people, they deserve rotten vegetables for the rest of their lives. 24:00.326 --> 24:01.707 I believe that wholeheartedly. 24:02.307 --> 24:15.591 Because once you're sticking to the provided script that, you know, you just say it really stupid simple, like vaccines cause autism, you deserve to be slapped upside your head for the rest of your life every time you show your face in public. 24:15.771 --> 24:16.852 I really do believe that. 24:17.492 --> 24:23.016 I don't think any of the people that I met at CHD at this point can excuse themselves. 24:23.056 --> 24:25.117 And it doesn't even matter if they have sick kids. 24:26.018 --> 24:27.619 I'll say it very, very plainly. 24:27.699 --> 24:33.963 If you have sick kids, then you should even be more ashamed of yourself because you know what you were trying to stop. 24:36.705 --> 24:38.206 But you can tell if someone's lying. 24:38.426 --> 24:39.067 You definitely can. 24:39.107 --> 24:40.568 You can sort of feel it in people. 24:42.418 --> 24:43.118 And I have lied. 24:43.138 --> 24:44.178 I'm sure I'll lie again. 24:44.198 --> 24:45.139 I don't want to lie. 24:45.619 --> 24:46.959 You know, I don't think I'm a liar. 24:47.079 --> 24:48.099 I try not to be a liar. 24:48.119 --> 24:48.980 I don't want to be a liar. 24:49.540 --> 24:52.321 I think it's like really important not to be a liar. 24:52.501 --> 25:01.823 It is definitely important not to be a liar and you need to understand that all of these organizations are headed by, run by, or coordinated by people who are lying. 25:02.665 --> 25:04.346 They are on a provided script. 25:04.947 --> 25:06.248 And there is no exception. 25:06.888 --> 25:12.452 Not one of these organizations, I can name the names because I've shaken their hand. 25:12.932 --> 25:17.236 And that includes the NCI, the National Citizens Inquiry in Canada. 25:17.276 --> 25:20.378 That includes the World Council for Health. 25:21.098 --> 25:22.760 Of course, that includes CHD. 25:23.160 --> 25:26.863 Of course, that includes ICANN, but it also includes PANDA and Nick Hudson. 25:27.762 --> 25:39.344 and Jonathan Engler, who's also of Heart, where Claire Craig, the genome collector, has founded an organization, coordinated by and scripted by Robert Malone and Kevin McKernan. 25:40.344 --> 25:46.225 Their connections are very easy to see, because you can look across time to see them cooperating. 25:46.906 --> 25:52.867 These people probably deserve jail, but they definitely deserve, like, life pain. 25:55.202 --> 26:01.005 People like Brett Weinstein deserve really the worst that karma has to offer. 26:01.065 --> 26:02.466 They are not serious people. 26:02.946 --> 26:10.249 They were people that were offered an opportunity to lie and get ahead, and they took that opportunity to lie and get ahead. 26:10.710 --> 26:12.811 And I'm not pulling punches anymore. 26:12.871 --> 26:13.771 That's what they do. 26:14.251 --> 26:21.055 They lie about why people die in order to get ahead, in order to get paid, in order to be a part of our governance. 26:21.795 --> 26:28.669 because we are being ruled by podcast in America and they would like to rule the rest of the world by podcast if they're dumb enough. 26:30.267 --> 26:31.568 Welcome to the show, ladies and gentlemen. 26:31.588 --> 26:35.610 This is GigaOM Biological, a high-resistance, low-noise information brief brought to you by a biologist. 26:36.230 --> 26:39.552 Intramuscular injection as medicine is a dumb idea from the late 1800s. 26:39.612 --> 26:44.954 Autism, spectrum disorder, and pandemics and gain of function are all mythologies used to disguise that. 26:45.074 --> 26:51.798 No one you know, no one you know has gotten as far as me to be in a picture with 26:52.498 --> 27:01.099 with Suzanne Humphries and Paul Thomas and James Lyons-Weiler and Polly Tommy and Mary Holland and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 27:01.880 --> 27:02.860 and Brian Hooker. 27:02.980 --> 27:04.740 Nobody has gotten this far. 27:06.000 --> 27:16.322 And the only reason why you don't know how far I got is because all of these people in the picture are maintaining the illusion of consensus and sticking to the provided script. 27:17.302 --> 27:21.663 At least two of people in this picture could be actively speaking out. 27:22.819 --> 27:25.502 Laura Bono could be writing editorials. 27:26.923 --> 27:36.151 Jackie Haynes could be writing editorials and telling the truth about their time at CHD and why they don't believe in Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 27:36.231 --> 27:37.352 and the movement anymore. 27:37.913 --> 27:42.377 Why they think they were bamboozled, but they're not. 27:44.764 --> 27:50.508 I know it's a very rough pill to swallow, ladies and gentlemen, that this was an anticipated rise in all-cause mortality. 27:50.568 --> 27:52.509 They saw it coming for more than two decades. 27:53.049 --> 27:59.833 And because it was an anticipated rise in all-cause mortality, they told lots of stories about pandemics and about public health. 28:00.494 --> 28:07.818 And those pandemic stories started around 2002, continued into 2003 and four, and then doubled down again in 2012. 28:08.299 --> 28:12.961 And yes, I'm talking about SARS and then MERS. 28:14.042 --> 28:23.185 And we got to 2020 and you can see the anticipated rise in all-cause mortality coming and blossoming at the top of the population pyramid. 28:23.225 --> 28:24.846 And here we are in 2025. 28:25.366 --> 28:28.207 And lo and behold, that flower still needs to blossom. 28:31.434 --> 28:38.736 Yes, the spontaneous growth rate or the spontaneous birth rate might be decreasing, but you see it. 28:38.956 --> 28:40.317 You saw what happened here. 28:41.097 --> 28:42.697 And they knew it was going to happen. 28:43.197 --> 28:45.158 And they orchestrated this theater around it. 28:45.218 --> 28:56.461 Now, what's important to understand is that none of these people have taken the time to assemble a list to describe the anticipated rise in all-cause mortality and how it was sculpted by manslaughter and lies. 28:56.721 --> 28:57.822 Only Mark Kulak 28:58.662 --> 29:14.813 and Jonathan Cooley of GigaOM Biological have bothered to put together a list like this, never mind showing you how the math of life expectancy in America, for example, is an equation that only really needs one variable, opioid deaths. 29:15.633 --> 29:17.814 The loss of control of 29:19.420 --> 29:27.746 pneumonia during the pandemic, depicted here in the bright red, only needs the lack of antibiotic use to be explained. 29:28.466 --> 29:39.634 And so almost all of the signal that was construed as a pandemic can be described by two simple variables that absolutely positively everyone 29:40.290 --> 29:51.920 from Denny Rancor all the way to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., from Charles the shithead, Sewell's shoe salesman, Rixey, all the way to the grocery store clerk, Alex Zeck. 29:52.660 --> 29:53.901 They just don't know. 29:54.261 --> 29:55.482 They can't figure it out. 29:55.663 --> 30:02.448 Instead, they're stuck on so many other hamster wheels that get no justice for the murdered. 30:03.609 --> 30:04.770 Don't even acknowledge them. 30:07.824 --> 30:08.804 It's impossible. 30:08.964 --> 30:14.026 Several studies have found that Americans are drinking far more than they did in previous years. 30:14.386 --> 30:20.888 One substance abuse doctor calls it an epidemic in a pandemic, and women in particular are consuming more alcohol. 30:21.208 --> 30:25.169 News 8's Abby Alford looks into why it's happening and what women can do to seek help. 30:34.033 --> 30:41.000 It's funny, but it's not, because actually this is the kind of thing that was necessary in order to manage the population pyramid. 30:41.521 --> 30:43.423 You don't need to go out and kill people. 30:43.943 --> 30:49.709 You just need to turn knobs that will increase the all-cause mortality in America. 30:50.669 --> 31:07.582 turning knobs like, you know, there's a virus that, that antibiotics would be inappropriate for is a pretty good knob to turn, but you can also turn the knob of alcoholism and drug abuse through a combination of lockdown and social media posting. 31:08.202 --> 31:16.028 And, and of course the, the opioid orchestrated crisis of the CDC that preceded the pandemic by about two years. 31:18.993 --> 31:23.076 This was orchestrated, and they talked about it, kind of. 31:23.557 --> 31:25.058 They talked about it, sort of. 31:25.438 --> 31:29.802 They told you some of the stuff they were doing, but the really big adjustments. 31:31.616 --> 31:32.977 Those were completely missed. 31:33.057 --> 31:45.748 Apparently everybody from Robert Malone to Kevin McKernan to Peter McCullough to Jessica Rose couldn't figure out how life expectancy could be so drastically adjusted using the opioid crisis alone. 31:46.148 --> 31:55.816 How drastically deaths in hospitals to pneumonia would go up if you just told people that if it's COVID you can't use antibiotics. 31:55.856 --> 31:56.717 But that's what they did. 32:01.434 --> 32:03.057 And so these stories were around. 32:03.097 --> 32:08.866 Dr. Brian Cooley says that women often ignore addiction because there's this stigma that you're weak. 32:09.046 --> 32:10.809 This guy's Dr. Brian Cooley. 32:11.584 --> 32:13.605 That dude apparently is Dr. Brian Cooey. 32:13.625 --> 32:15.306 They even spell it C-O-U-E-Y. 32:15.366 --> 32:16.167 It's really kind of funny. 32:16.187 --> 32:16.487 This is from 2021. 32:16.527 --> 32:18.188 So alcoholism went crazy during the pandemic. 32:18.288 --> 32:22.170 You're not going to escape until you understand the trap you're in. 32:34.719 --> 32:52.425 Social media allows government agents and private interests to put coordinated liars in front of you on podcasts and on disparate podcasts, on opposing podcasts, and get you to believe in one side of a narrative or another. 32:52.465 --> 32:56.607 And you don't have to see it as simple as blue and red because some of them are shared by both sides. 32:58.968 --> 33:02.049 I'm just gonna give you kind of a rudimentary example of what I mean. 33:03.274 --> 33:05.476 This is the red narrative in America right now. 33:05.536 --> 33:08.999 Vaccines can hurt people, but it's not even super rare. 33:10.320 --> 33:17.267 Viruses can cause pandemics that ruin sequential years of high school or college, and governments can release them by accident or on purpose. 33:17.964 --> 33:18.925 This is the red side. 33:19.605 --> 33:24.509 The government is dysfunctional, mostly because things that shouldn't be partisan are often made to be, i.e. 33:25.109 --> 33:25.710 science stuff. 33:26.250 --> 33:34.456 The world is run by the smartest people who are also the richest people, some of whom, like politicians, are controlled by blackmail with young girls on islands. 33:35.557 --> 33:38.840 Humans are currently destroying the planet, but global warming is not real. 33:39.380 --> 33:45.665 Potentially hundreds of thousands have been killed in the Middle East geographic region known as the Gaza Strip. 33:47.202 --> 33:50.164 We are obligated to help everyone on earth, but let's start local. 33:50.604 --> 33:53.946 China and Russia, they are enemies and Iran can't have stuff. 33:54.907 --> 33:58.869 And the Trump administration is going to start saving America very soon. 34:00.230 --> 34:12.317 So this is the conservative narrative that Steve Bannon is selling, that Alex Jones is selling, that Mary Talley Bowden is selling, that Robert Malone is selling on Substack and elsewhere. 34:13.938 --> 34:15.039 Here's the blue narrative. 34:16.448 --> 34:18.690 Vaccines can hurt people, but it's super rare. 34:20.292 --> 34:24.797 Viruses can cause pandemics that can ruin sequential years of high school or college. 34:25.557 --> 34:30.022 Government is dysfunctional mostly because things that shouldn't be partisan are often made to be, i.e. 34:30.082 --> 34:30.723 science stuff. 34:31.323 --> 34:38.230 The world is run by the smartest people who are also the richest, some of whom, like politicians, are controlled by blackmail with young girls on islands. 34:38.911 --> 34:40.712 Humans are currently destroying the planet. 34:41.192 --> 34:46.495 Potentially hundreds of thousands have been killed in the Middle East geographic area known as the Jaguars Strip. 34:47.136 --> 34:48.957 We are obligated to help everyone on earth. 34:49.877 --> 34:51.778 China and Russia is an enemy. 34:52.378 --> 34:53.799 Iran cannot have stuff. 34:54.340 --> 34:57.281 And the Trump administration is destroying America. 34:58.842 --> 34:59.402 Can you see it? 35:01.063 --> 35:02.004 It's so different. 35:02.064 --> 35:03.184 We're so split. 35:04.045 --> 35:06.106 I mean, America's almost torn in half. 35:06.706 --> 35:07.347 Stop lying. 35:09.605 --> 35:23.236 lying we believe all the same shit absolutely positively all the same shit and we disagree about a bunch of shit that doesn't even really matter that much and we're convinced that it's the opposite 35:28.732 --> 35:48.005 Now I think we made some very big changes here by calling attention to these two scripted morons, actually three, calling attention to their foreign-born nature, to their ridiculous behavior during the pandemic which included years of podcasting, selling books, 35:48.966 --> 35:55.190 Years of podcasting, talking about the narrative, asking the wrong questions. 35:55.210 --> 36:07.258 He literally years of podcasting with really scripted assholes and together years of podcasting. 36:10.220 --> 36:14.002 And then when the murder stopped, no more podcasting. 36:15.263 --> 36:15.403 Hmm. 36:16.638 --> 36:24.187 And then when the Trump administration and the Kennedy for president started some more podcasting, huh? 36:24.668 --> 36:26.370 Crazy, interesting. 36:26.971 --> 36:28.373 I don't know if there's a pattern there or not. 36:28.393 --> 36:29.254 It's kind of hard to see. 36:36.417 --> 36:38.279 So I think we got this to happen. 36:38.319 --> 36:53.231 I think this is script changes, damage control, and they want you to believe that Laura Loomer and Aaron Seery that were calling him out on stuff and whatever, that that's how it happened. 36:53.271 --> 36:55.593 They just had to get rid of him, he abruptly. 36:56.073 --> 37:02.919 But the New York Times saying that right-wing influencer Laura Loomer had part in this, 37:04.241 --> 37:07.664 shows you that this is all one malevolent show. 37:07.784 --> 37:10.045 It shows you exactly what's going on here. 37:10.085 --> 37:22.655 Remember, Robert Malone seeded the career of multiple New York Times reporters during his long, you know, honored career as a bioethicist. 37:23.820 --> 37:30.167 And so the New York Times, of course, is a clown show, but they're even willing to print Laura Loomer's name. 37:30.207 --> 37:42.980 Laura Loomer, of course, was auditioning in 2019 with the same set of ridiculous podcasters that Soph, the daughter of Sasha Latupova, was auditioning with. 37:44.019 --> 37:50.020 that got her on Alex Jones three times in 2019 before the pandemic started. 37:50.080 --> 37:54.681 Got her famous for having threatened to kill the YouTube CEO. 37:56.161 --> 37:59.962 Lost a million subscribers on YouTube supposedly for that action. 38:00.022 --> 38:13.064 That's Soph, the daughter of Sasha Latupova, who is connected professionally to Laura Loomer, to the same production company, on the same thumbnails. 38:17.776 --> 38:19.609 This is definitely a scripted change. 38:19.669 --> 38:20.656 It's definitely... 38:21.829 --> 38:29.870 It's definitely damage control to this provided script and it's not gonna work, but it's because the damage control is gonna work. 38:30.290 --> 38:32.711 They already blew it with Suzanne Humphries. 38:32.771 --> 38:33.791 We destroyed her. 38:34.411 --> 38:48.053 Her inability to say anything useful for three hours on the Joe Rogan podcast has permanently labeled her as a scripted traitor to our grandchildren and somebody who has been grifting off of this mess for way too long. 38:49.194 --> 38:51.134 She's a real awful person. 38:52.603 --> 38:58.107 And everybody on this screen is really an awful person, because now they know. 38:58.788 --> 39:01.950 Even if they didn't know at the beginning, they know now. 39:02.751 --> 39:08.756 And by sticking to the provided script... I mean, those companies, you know, we have a free market system in this country. 39:08.816 --> 39:13.880 And part of that is that there's consequences if you make a bad product. 39:14.860 --> 39:19.643 And, you know, vaccines are particularly exempt from that because there's no free market economy. 39:20.443 --> 39:23.845 Normally, if you get poisoned by Coca-Cola, you can stop drinking Coca-Cola. 39:24.764 --> 39:29.927 If you get poisoned by a vaccine, your kids still have to take that vaccine to get to the school. 39:29.947 --> 39:44.214 If you're a doctor, there is no possible way that in two decades of advocating for children's health in one way or another, that this is all the farther he's gotten, that this is his best metaphor as a lawyer and activist. 39:45.495 --> 39:47.737 This is such a tremendous failure. 39:48.517 --> 39:56.703 And the fact that he is willing to say these things and read this script and memorize it, essentially tells you that he's an idiot. 39:57.344 --> 40:01.327 I hate to be a dick about it, but I don't think he's very smart. 40:03.408 --> 40:08.472 He's just good at remembering words, you know, like actors are. 40:13.342 --> 40:18.329 your child will die because you can look and see what happened to elder siblings. 40:18.369 --> 40:22.976 There's some kind of genetic vulnerability that's affected the older siblings. 40:23.176 --> 40:24.658 And the doctor wants to tell you, 40:26.204 --> 40:28.605 your third child should not take this vaccine. 40:29.025 --> 40:30.326 He's going to be punished for that. 40:31.126 --> 40:32.087 That is a lie. 40:32.707 --> 40:33.648 This is a lie. 40:33.728 --> 40:38.850 This is a scripted lie that is scripted by a human genome project participant. 40:38.870 --> 40:40.211 There's no doubt in my mind. 40:40.871 --> 40:47.894 What he's trying to tell you is that there might be evidence in the family where the first two siblings got injured in some way. 40:48.354 --> 40:51.476 And so that's an indication that there's a genetic vulnerability. 40:54.434 --> 41:02.797 It's a complex environmental and genetic symphony that determines whether or not kids get autism in a day after the MMR shot. 41:03.397 --> 41:04.158 Stop lying! 41:05.698 --> 41:08.819 I cannot tell you how awful it is what he just said. 41:10.180 --> 41:15.502 It is some of the absolute worst shit I've ever heard come out of his mouth. 41:15.582 --> 41:16.582 This is awful. 41:17.963 --> 41:18.563 It hurts me. 41:20.091 --> 41:23.432 I feel like a gut punch when I hear that. 41:23.572 --> 41:26.534 I did not listen to this video because it's Charlie Kirk. 41:26.574 --> 41:27.974 I knew it would be something interesting. 41:28.894 --> 41:29.875 That's ridiculous. 41:31.315 --> 41:39.058 That is a very specific case where intramuscular injection being dumb apparently doesn't matter at all. 41:39.118 --> 41:43.920 It's just whether or not you have, you know, some evidence from previous kids. 41:44.420 --> 41:47.982 And then maybe we should at least give an exception to those parents. 41:48.860 --> 41:49.685 Stop lying! 41:49.946 --> 41:51.072 Holy shit! 41:52.930 --> 41:56.452 but also the schools won't let you go to school no matter what. 41:56.672 --> 42:07.077 So in New York and California, there's not only no religious exemptions, there's no philosophical exemptions, but there also effectively is no medical exemption. 42:07.757 --> 42:20.243 So these kids, it's mandated, and because it's mandated, there's no market forces that tell you, that allow you, if you don't like the product, if you have reservations about it, you can't stop using it. 42:20.343 --> 42:21.564 You gotta take it anyway. 42:22.384 --> 42:41.839 so the things that that and then you know you have of course the the mainstream media is is bought and brain dead when it comes to these issues they will not criticize they will not report vaccine injury the uh the congress is sorry with the so so you have no of them none of the market forces that apply and make 42:42.877 --> 42:44.578 other products safe. 42:45.458 --> 42:48.780 There is zero incentive for these companies to make them safe. 42:49.720 --> 42:51.501 They don't get punished for it in the market. 42:51.541 --> 42:54.282 They don't get punished for it in the court. 42:54.462 --> 43:03.706 See, I'm seeing it clearer every minute because the companies can't make intramuscular injection of a combination of substances safe. 43:06.087 --> 43:11.489 The companies cannot make intramuscular injection of a combination of substances safe. 43:13.390 --> 43:18.615 They can't because intramuscular injection is a dumb idea from the late 1800s. 43:20.697 --> 43:32.308 And so this is the hamster wheel that these absolutely scripted frauds have kept us in for more than a decade. 43:34.753 --> 43:38.435 CHD and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 43:38.655 --> 43:57.846 and Mary Holland and Meryl Nass and Polly Tommy and Andrew Wakefield and all the other employees of CHD that met me while I worked there and heard me in a Zoom meeting know by now that there are better ways to say it if your goal is to end it. 44:00.507 --> 44:04.149 There are better ways to say it if the goal is to teach it. 44:06.049 --> 44:12.631 There are better ways to say it if the goal is to win and these people don't ever do it. 44:13.591 --> 44:16.112 How many podcasts has he been on since the election? 44:17.812 --> 44:21.313 How many times has he had a chance speaking in front of a live camera? 44:25.934 --> 44:31.316 Suzanne Humphries had three hours on the biggest podcast on earth. 44:33.345 --> 44:35.890 and couldn't say it in 2025. 44:37.192 --> 44:38.614 Make no mistake about it. 44:39.276 --> 44:42.481 The fake health freedom movement needs to be ended. 44:44.024 --> 44:46.168 The hamster wheel needs to be broken. 44:49.696 --> 45:05.201 So, you know, what we're going to try to do is to make sure that the parents who do get injured get compensation, that they get it very quickly and they get it without the kind of adversarial impediments that have now been erected over the past 40 years. 45:10.482 --> 45:19.265 So I think one of the most revealing videos was this 2017 video that I showed you with with with 45:20.140 --> 45:27.761 with Del Bigtree and Tony Bark and Judy Mikovits and this Paul Thomas guy. 45:28.822 --> 45:33.362 These are some of the worst people on earth because they signed up for this mess. 45:33.762 --> 45:39.783 And there is no doubt in my mind that the pandemic was part of what they signed up for. 45:42.084 --> 45:43.164 That's how you have to see it. 45:43.204 --> 45:48.145 Whether they knew it or not, that's what they had to have known when the pandemic kicked off. 45:48.205 --> 45:48.865 They had to know. 45:49.790 --> 45:55.276 They had to know, even if they didn't know before the pandemic kicked off that it was going to kick off. 45:55.356 --> 45:58.479 Once it kicked off, they had to know that, holy shit. 45:59.961 --> 46:02.444 I might've not wanted to join this team. 46:03.104 --> 46:05.307 Um, uh, can I turn in my Jersey? 46:05.327 --> 46:05.367 No. 46:08.672 --> 46:09.792 No, no, no, no. 46:10.493 --> 46:12.973 Ladies and gentlemen, this is as dark as it gets. 46:13.513 --> 46:18.615 Um, this is the hamster wheel and it's only a spectacular commitment to lies that is required. 46:19.475 --> 46:21.415 Um, this video, I should have just gotten rid of that. 46:22.376 --> 46:29.338 I really think that the fake health freedom movement was started by murdering Tony bark and Brandy Vaughn. 46:29.978 --> 46:36.199 Um, they had to be out of the way before these people could, could lift Robert F. Kennedy jr. 46:36.279 --> 46:37.180 Toward the white house. 46:37.840 --> 46:37.940 Um, 46:40.143 --> 46:40.883 It's really bad. 46:41.484 --> 46:42.624 I think we have to start here. 46:43.864 --> 46:46.005 Um, I think we have to start with the calendar. 46:46.325 --> 46:56.529 And so if we're going to learn about, um, 10 penny, uh, we have to learn about Alex, Zach, the guy that she just interviewed with, cause that's the interview that I'm interested in. 46:56.809 --> 47:03.472 And yesterday I mentioned, uh, 10 penny with regard to this meeting with Larry and with, with Lee merit. 47:04.515 --> 47:18.127 where they're talking about Robert Malone being a pretty reasonable guy and and being in a signal chat with Robert Malone and Tony Lyons and and Meryl Ness and so I want to watch This video. 47:18.768 --> 47:19.148 All right. 47:19.188 --> 47:20.369 What's up everyone today? 47:20.569 --> 47:25.574 I want to watch this video from 2021 because here is a video of Alex Zeck and 47:27.198 --> 47:40.394 One of the no virus people that was in this group of five that did some kind of response to me, which was really just a bullshit response, didn't mean anything, didn't say anything, didn't solve any problems or answer any questions. 47:41.295 --> 47:55.386 And that was around the same time, the same year, or year and a half, probably a year, where I was also on with Malone, Nass, Tess Laurie, and Jessica Rose, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., all in one. 47:56.227 --> 48:04.072 And I was also on a Zoom with Kevin McKernan, and Stephanie Seneff, and John Bodwin, and Jessica, excuse me. 48:05.106 --> 48:33.499 jessica rose and then there was also this no virus thing with with bailey and massey and um bailey and massey and uh cowan and um and zeck and and and and uh and andrew kaufman so all five of them so there's no one else on earth no one else on earth for whom 48:35.140 --> 48:41.604 Jessica Rose, Kevin McKernan, Stephanie Seneff, and John Baldwin got together to talk about their ideas. 48:42.224 --> 48:50.229 Nobody else was able to assemble Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Robert Malone, Meryl Nass, Tess Laurie, and Jessica Rose, just me. 48:50.790 --> 49:02.617 And no one, no one was able to bring together the no virus people, Tom Cowan, Andy Kaufman, Mark Bailey, Christine Massey, and Alex Zek. 49:02.677 --> 49:04.418 No one, no one else. 49:08.157 --> 49:09.838 And I think that's how you see it. 49:11.459 --> 49:23.387 They used their best weapon against me three times or more, which is a group of people on a coordinated script of lies, pretending not to be. 49:24.307 --> 49:28.250 They use that on me more than anyone else on the planet. 49:30.531 --> 49:31.472 Just think about that. 49:31.972 --> 49:35.154 And then let's watch Alex Zeck and find out what he thought in 2021. 49:36.328 --> 49:40.070 Today, I am interviewing one of my good friends, Alex Zek. 49:41.050 --> 49:41.830 Many of you know him. 49:41.890 --> 49:46.592 He's also a grocery store manager as of recent. 49:50.094 --> 49:51.114 We got shut down though. 49:51.154 --> 49:53.335 We were selling boomers. 49:53.355 --> 49:55.796 We were selling shrooms out of the pack, so they shut us down. 49:57.917 --> 49:58.577 Yeah, yeah. 49:58.617 --> 50:02.879 You were selling vitamin D and zinc, and that's really dangerous, so we couldn't do that. 50:05.581 --> 50:25.161 So, Alec, and for you guys watching, I had a thought last week and I just acted on that impulse of going, you know, there's a lot that I don't know about germ theory, terrain theory, and what's going on 50:25.709 --> 50:28.632 with vaccines and this and COVID. 50:30.213 --> 50:36.739 And I've done a fair amount of due diligence and attempting to decipher truth from falsehood. 50:37.920 --> 50:48.409 And I'm sitting there going, okay, I want to be able to not just share information that I believe in and resonate with that I believe is innately empowering. 50:49.446 --> 51:00.554 I want to share a perspective of how to continue to have conversations like this with those that don't see it your way, because that's something that Alec, you are incredibly good at doing. 51:00.574 --> 51:02.896 That is really the point. 51:02.976 --> 51:04.777 It's not about right and wrong. 51:04.797 --> 51:11.722 It's about this process of getting to what we might call the truth. 51:12.322 --> 51:23.035 an inner standing getting to an individual inner standing an inner standing an inner standing wow is that the stupidest shit i've ever heard um 51:24.295 --> 51:26.177 Again, this is so guru ish. 51:26.958 --> 51:29.860 The language that that guy was using was so guru ish. 51:31.041 --> 51:40.830 They use words like paradigm and resonate and resonance and, and, and it is just, it is really bullshit. 51:41.531 --> 51:43.072 I don't know how to say it any other way. 51:43.653 --> 51:46.115 That guy already made me sick a little bit. 51:46.395 --> 51:47.436 Yeah, yeah. 51:48.377 --> 52:08.484 so let's just start with like what led you to get on that impulse of going no we were selling uh we're selling boomers we're selling shrooms out of the pack so they shut us down yeah yeah you were selling you know vitamin b and zinc and that's really dangerous so so that's a reference to psychedelics just so you know right that's not 52:09.224 --> 52:12.066 That's exactly in line with the new age retards. 52:12.106 --> 52:16.389 That's exactly in line with the dope, the bullshit that, that Rogan is talking. 52:16.449 --> 52:19.511 That's exactly in line with, with all of these people. 52:20.591 --> 52:23.653 I'm not advocating for or going against psychedelics. 52:23.713 --> 52:26.835 I'm just telling you that that's the same narrative. 52:26.975 --> 52:30.858 It's the same free space with natural something, something or others. 52:33.982 --> 52:35.923 None of these people are talking about God. 52:36.183 --> 52:38.204 None of these people are talking about faith. 52:38.324 --> 52:44.046 None of these people are talking about, you know, it's really, really new agey shit. 52:44.886 --> 52:47.007 And it's scripted bullshit is what it is. 52:47.567 --> 52:49.628 These are frauds. 52:52.289 --> 53:01.373 So Alec, and for you guys watching, um, I had a thought last week and I just acted on that impulse of going, you know, 53:02.873 --> 53:15.341 There's a lot that I don't know about germ theory, terrain theory, and what's going on with vaccines and COVID. 53:16.922 --> 53:23.426 And I've done a fair amount of due diligence in attempting to decipher truth from falsehood. 53:23.446 --> 53:28.249 And I'm sitting there going, okay, I want to be able to not just 53:29.386 --> 53:39.425 share information that I, as above so below bitches, believe in and resonate with that I believe is innately empowering. 53:40.484 --> 53:51.593 I want to share a perspective of how to continue to have conversations like this with those that don't see it your way, because that's something that Alec, you are incredibly good at doing. 53:52.174 --> 53:53.935 That is really the point. 53:54.015 --> 53:55.837 It's not about right and wrong. 53:56.557 --> 54:02.763 It's about this process of getting to what we might call the truth. 54:03.343 --> 54:07.605 An inner standing, getting to an individual inner standing as like, yeah. 54:08.225 --> 54:08.465 Yeah. 54:09.386 --> 54:19.810 So let's just start with like, what, what led you to the pursuit where you just, we were just talking about, um, your, the impulse of looking up germ theory and terrain theory. 54:19.870 --> 54:23.512 What, what led you to going down that path? 54:24.221 --> 54:37.077 Man, this is such a good question because, so like previous to going down the route of understanding terrain theory, in our life we were already living in that manner and we didn't know it. 54:37.117 --> 54:43.705 Like we had already come to understand like the nefarious intentions behind the pharmaceutical industry, come to understand the power of natural health. 54:44.846 --> 54:49.751 Like how the government and media are intertwined with big pharma already understood all of that. 54:50.051 --> 54:58.099 And, you know, I'll start with this when, when our son was born, we had begun exploring like vaccines just a little bit before he was born. 54:58.119 --> 55:01.942 We were like, okay, we're just going to hold off for a while because clearly there's something amiss here. 55:01.962 --> 55:07.047 And we had done a little bit of research, but when we decided not to vaccinate him, 55:08.004 --> 55:10.165 We were really scared about him being around other people. 55:10.185 --> 55:10.785 We're like, Oh my God. 55:10.805 --> 55:11.025 Okay. 55:11.045 --> 55:14.987 So he's not protected against these pathogenic germs. 55:15.887 --> 55:22.930 Um, but he also is not getting the poisons that we knew were in the shot, but we did think that there were some level of protection that they offered. 55:23.010 --> 55:23.210 Right. 55:23.230 --> 55:30.473 And then that gets into discussions on like, if you believe, like you fundamentally believe that they're going to offer protection and they might like, even when it comes to the CBO effect, exactly. 55:30.513 --> 55:33.455 Even when it comes to these shots, like I will, I will be clear on that, but. 55:34.515 --> 55:35.656 We were so scared. 55:35.696 --> 55:50.982 And then as time went on, and as he got older, and again, completely unvaccinated, and we were very focused on his nutrition, almost obsessively because we were so worried about keeping him healthy, but he would like lick other kids and, you know, like bite random things and just play in the dirt all day. 55:51.002 --> 55:52.643 And he never got sick. 55:53.476 --> 55:54.697 We're like, this is so strange. 55:54.717 --> 56:01.121 Like, okay, well, I guess just like a healthy immune system means that you won't get sick from these, these, uh, pathogens. 56:01.181 --> 56:01.341 Right. 56:01.661 --> 56:08.105 And that's like the traditional, uh, terrain theory approach, the traditional version of what most people think terrain theory is. 56:08.665 --> 56:10.026 Um, I guess there's like three camps. 56:10.106 --> 56:13.388 It's that you can see that he's looking down all the time, right? 56:13.428 --> 56:14.388 He has notes. 56:14.448 --> 56:17.170 He can't just have this discussion off the cuff. 56:17.951 --> 56:20.372 This is a scripted fraud. 56:22.825 --> 56:33.614 Germs are pathogenic disease causing agents and there's nothing that we can do except for defend against them via You know vaccine sanitizing everything and and staying away from other people when they're sick, right? 56:33.654 --> 56:36.717 That's like the germ theory approach, right? 56:36.777 --> 56:47.606 and then there's the traditional terrain theory camp that I was in prior to kovat that says okay these pathogenic viruses and traditional 56:49.574 --> 57:02.311 it's like the trad it's the trad terrain the trad terrain space i guess is what he would say it's called the trad terrain he was in the trad terrain space 57:03.968 --> 57:11.556 And then moved pathogenic microorganisms like bacteria are only pathogenic if you have a toxic internal system. 57:12.657 --> 57:17.503 And there's some nuance to that when it comes to bacteria which I'll get into where that is still somewhat true. 57:19.765 --> 57:34.337 the understanding that I've come to since then, that's a step above, with more actual research directed at this topic specifically, rather than other tertiary things like vaccines, which are predicated off of that, right? 57:35.978 --> 57:47.307 The more that I looked, the more that I was shocked, and the more that I pressed at that shock, pressing virologists and molecular biologists on this topic, the more that I was shocked even more. 57:47.347 --> 57:47.447 So 57:48.288 --> 58:11.866 The reason I can now think about the idea that for years and years and years these people have been pressing Have been pressing have been pressing Doctors and scientists about what what have they been pressing them about listen to this carefully because this is important Wait, where is it? 58:12.146 --> 58:12.807 Is it just there? 58:16.353 --> 58:18.175 Oh, this mouse is moving slow today. 58:18.555 --> 58:29.844 Came to this understanding and even like approach this topic is because I saw a video and topic specifically rather than other tertiary things like vaccines, which are predicated off of that. 58:29.884 --> 58:30.085 Right. 58:31.726 --> 58:43.195 The more that I looked, the more that I was shocked and the more that I pressed at that shock, pressing virologists and other and molecular biologists on this topic, the more that I was shocked even more so. 58:44.677 --> 58:55.024 So he was pressing virologists and pressing molecular biologists about terrain theory or traditional terrain space, about germ theory. 58:55.044 --> 58:58.147 And in fact, that's a very, very 58:59.147 --> 59:02.150 common theme among the no-virus people. 59:02.230 --> 59:07.294 This, you know, how thorough they were at pressing virologists to get a straight answer. 59:07.694 --> 59:10.296 How thorough they were at pressing for FOIA requests. 59:10.677 --> 59:15.901 How thorough they were at pressing for a true definition of isolation, purification, and culturing. 59:18.864 --> 59:23.247 But these people have never thought to thoroughly press doctors 59:24.181 --> 59:32.108 to justify intramuscular injection as a good way to administer a combination of substances intended to help you. 59:34.890 --> 59:47.641 It's so ridiculously simple relative to pressing virologists about the definition of virology, pressing the virologists about their details of whether or not isolation really means what they say it does. 59:49.861 --> 01:00:14.871 when it would be so much easier to just pressure every doctor in America to justify in their own mind and head with some studies or with some history about where exactly this idea of intramuscular injection came from and whether it was actually proven to be as versatile as they say it is, that you can inject almost anything intramuscularly and call it a vaccine. 01:00:18.109 --> 01:00:33.781 And the most important point to understand is that this guy was on stage earlier in 2021 with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and with Brian Artis, and with Tenpenny, and with Mikovits, and with Hooker. 01:00:36.464 --> 01:00:45.631 And so there's no possible way that they're still not really able to say it really simply, that they still have to get all kinds of dumb complicated about it. 01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:49.162 Intramuscular injections, just a dumb idea from the 1800s. 01:00:49.202 --> 01:00:57.147 It was never proven to be a universal mechanism or methodology by which we could augment our health. 01:00:58.028 --> 01:01:06.754 It worked really well for morphine, and then people at the time were too stupid to see that that was kind of an exception rather than a rule. 01:01:08.354 --> 01:01:19.777 and Mark Kulak and Jonathan Cui apparently are the first and only Americans to get to this finish line because Suzanne Humphreys never got here with multiple books. 01:01:21.277 --> 01:01:23.057 Ten pennies, not getting here. 01:01:23.557 --> 01:01:24.898 She's got multiple books. 01:01:25.538 --> 01:01:27.618 Robert F. Kennedy never got here. 01:01:27.658 --> 01:01:28.979 He's got multiple books. 01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:34.880 Sky Horse Publishing never got here and they've got multiple books from Robert Malone alone. 01:01:38.490 --> 01:01:39.150 It gets worse. 01:01:39.651 --> 01:01:46.436 It's going to get a lot worse came to this understanding and even like approach this topic is because I saw a video. 01:01:47.196 --> 01:01:53.821 And I want to say, March or April of 2020, and it was Dr. Tom Cowan speaking. 01:01:54.581 --> 01:02:10.061 And in that video, Dr. Cowan was addressing, you know, if you were following a pod of dolphins off of the coast of Florida or somewhere, I don't remember the exact example you used, but if you're following a pod of dolphins and you notice a lot of the dolphins began dying, 01:02:10.902 --> 01:02:12.443 What would be your first reaction? 01:02:12.844 --> 01:02:16.146 And then someone in the audience answered, who put some shit in the water? 01:02:17.047 --> 01:02:17.868 Like, exactly. 01:02:18.068 --> 01:02:23.552 Our reaction isn't to say, oh, what virus is causing these dolphins to die? 01:02:24.113 --> 01:02:25.594 It's who put something in the water. 01:02:25.634 --> 01:02:27.015 How are these dolphins poisoned? 01:02:27.095 --> 01:02:34.321 Or maybe their food source was cut off because the food source was poisoned or they were in an area that was lacking on the food that they needed. 01:02:34.401 --> 01:02:34.561 Right. 01:02:35.362 --> 01:02:42.825 And that was such a, like, shocking, like, paradigm shift for me, but it made intuitive sense, because I was already... A paradigm shift for him. 01:02:43.885 --> 01:02:51.488 The... The Pod of Dolphins story from Tom Cowens was a paradigm shift for him. 01:02:52.048 --> 01:02:52.789 Stop lying! 01:02:53.069 --> 01:03:04.433 I mean, you must have, like, the intellectual depth of a loaf of bread if... if that analogy is a... results in a paradigm shift for you. 01:03:06.147 --> 01:03:12.814 If an analogy from Tom Cowan can result in a paradigm shift for you, you might be a dumbass. 01:03:15.791 --> 01:03:16.391 living in that way. 01:03:16.411 --> 01:03:17.512 I was like, oh my goodness. 01:03:18.512 --> 01:03:39.638 So like, it's not that the virus is, but then like the more that I explored it, because he didn't outright say like, look, my understanding now that for people who are not familiar with this, if I say viruses as pathogenic disease causing agents don't exist or haven't been proven to exist, that like that statement without the context is shocking. 01:03:39.678 --> 01:03:40.918 And that's not what I heard. 01:03:41.378 --> 01:03:42.799 I hadn't heard that statement until 01:03:44.099 --> 01:04:08.124 eight to nine months ago and i already had a foundational understanding of like some of this stuff so i was like huh like that sounds so outlandish and so the idea is is that he's made progress he's gone from i i don't know living you know uh what did he say he had he was living pretty well although he didn't know why really they were skeptical of pharma and they were skeptical of the media 01:04:08.804 --> 01:04:16.226 And they had a kid and they kind of delayed vaccines and he, they were afraid that he would get sick, but he never got sick. 01:04:18.567 --> 01:04:22.167 So it doesn't really sound like he's learning anything. 01:04:22.608 --> 01:04:25.528 It doesn't really sound like he's peeling back any layers. 01:04:25.568 --> 01:04:33.690 And then he saw this video by Tom Cowan and heard this analogy about a pod of dolphins and who put shit in the water. 01:04:34.491 --> 01:04:36.211 And it changed his whole paradigm. 01:04:38.291 --> 01:04:42.878 I mean, we are dealing with a gas station attendant. 01:04:42.958 --> 01:04:44.200 Oh no, sorry. 01:04:44.841 --> 01:04:48.106 He's a grocery store clerk who sells mushrooms behind the scenes. 01:04:48.807 --> 01:04:50.289 He's totally a great kid. 01:04:52.170 --> 01:04:58.693 crazy, but I'm going to explore it because I'd heard that video from Dr. Cowan and have obsessively explored this basically throughout the entirety of COVID. 01:04:59.514 --> 01:05:14.441 So what I've come to understand based on exploring the evidence myself is that the foundational evidence for viruses as pathogenic disease causing agents comes from what is known as a cell culture, typically a virus. 01:05:14.581 --> 01:05:18.563 Listen to how many details he's got to tell you in order to explain it. 01:05:18.763 --> 01:05:19.704 Instead of saying, 01:05:21.932 --> 01:05:25.314 Intramuscular injections, just a dumb idea from the late 1800s. 01:05:25.434 --> 01:05:29.176 And so, we shouldn't do it. 01:05:31.797 --> 01:05:35.779 And that they tell you all these stories about viruses so that you get scared into doing it. 01:05:39.681 --> 01:05:43.963 That they make up these stories about autism so that you don't really figure it out. 01:05:44.944 --> 01:05:51.287 They haven't been able to explain to you why autism spectrum disorder could be a weaponized, ever-expanding idea 01:05:53.578 --> 01:06:00.841 You know, one of the things that crossed my mind the other day that just this morning that just really freaked me out was I heard Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:06:00.921 --> 01:06:07.664 say this bullshit line about how there are no 70-year-old autistic people. 01:06:08.764 --> 01:06:10.485 There are none in his generation. 01:06:11.266 --> 01:06:16.748 And that is disingenuous for a number of reasons, but the main one being that when I was a kid, we had retards. 01:06:18.740 --> 01:06:21.522 My dad was a special ed teacher and he worked with retards. 01:06:22.322 --> 01:06:26.165 He actually worked at a whole school in Indiana full of retards. 01:06:26.885 --> 01:06:33.029 And a lot of those kids were characterized as being severely retarded, severely mentally handicapped. 01:06:34.169 --> 01:06:40.173 And it was like halfway through my dad's career where he started saying we shouldn't use the word retarded anymore. 01:06:41.613 --> 01:06:44.615 but there were definitely retarded kids around. 01:06:45.315 --> 01:06:51.079 And we definitely know that retarded kids from the seventies didn't live as long as kids that weren't retarded. 01:06:53.780 --> 01:06:59.224 So the idea that there aren't 70 year old retards around, that's pretty understandable. 01:06:59.284 --> 01:07:00.504 Robert F. Kennedy jr. 01:07:01.105 --> 01:07:02.926 And the fake health freedom movement. 01:07:05.097 --> 01:07:06.718 but it's a really shitty script. 01:07:07.018 --> 01:07:12.060 And so once you see how shitty it is, the brick wall is right in front of your face. 01:07:16.842 --> 01:07:19.083 Cell culture, which is done on a monkey kidney cell. 01:07:19.523 --> 01:07:24.385 I'll use an analogy that Dr. Cowan explained brilliantly in his book to describe it. 01:07:25.145 --> 01:07:34.669 If I were to try to prove that a- So he's selling Tom Cowan's book and he's trying to prove a negative. 01:07:35.953 --> 01:07:42.343 He's arguing with people who take evidence from PCR as being evidence of the existence of a full molecule. 01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:54.867 He's arguing with people about things that they can argue infinitely with them about on purpose because he is a scripted traitor to our grandkids. 01:07:54.947 --> 01:07:58.150 Ping pong ball could break down a brick wall. 01:07:59.271 --> 01:07:59.912 What would I do? 01:07:59.932 --> 01:08:09.160 I would probably need to observe that ping pong ball completely by itself, having action on that brick wall to see the causes of destruction of that brick. 01:08:10.051 --> 01:08:13.053 So yesterday, I showed you this video call yesterday. 01:08:14.434 --> 01:08:18.376 Yesterday, I think was yesterday, maybe Sunday. 01:08:18.556 --> 01:08:31.544 Anyways, conference call with this, with a whole bunch of people in the global wellness forum and in this other signal group that I'm in about Maha's 01:08:32.266 --> 01:08:33.567 table talk or something like that. 01:08:34.088 --> 01:08:39.192 And Tony Lyons kind of- You see this guy Pavlovsky is going to be mentioned in the next video. 01:08:39.212 --> 01:08:41.134 So you can see him down here in the lower left. 01:08:41.174 --> 01:08:46.138 And then you have Sherry Tenpenny, Carrie Madra and Lee Merritt. 01:08:46.338 --> 01:08:54.986 And so Sherry's here telling us about this signal chat that involved Tony Lyons and Merrill Nass and Robert Malone. 01:08:55.226 --> 01:08:58.269 And this is the kind of signal chat where people are controlled. 01:08:59.170 --> 01:09:02.974 where there's this general consensus of what we should do and what we should think. 01:09:03.154 --> 01:09:05.976 And they encourage each other by saying, yeah, I agree with Robert. 01:09:06.437 --> 01:09:18.808 And then she goes off of the signal chat and tells the story among four other people about what Robert Malone said and about what Meryl Nass said and reassures them that, you know, this is better than it's ever been when that's just bullshit. 01:09:21.309 --> 01:09:22.510 And they were both speakers. 01:09:22.570 --> 01:09:25.211 Each speaker had like, I don't know, 10 minutes maybe. 01:09:25.831 --> 01:09:30.233 And I know it's not a very nice thing to say that these people are all scripted liars. 01:09:30.293 --> 01:09:39.457 And a lot of people will probably have a special place in their heart for Sherry or a special place in their heart for Lee, or maybe even a special place in their heart for Larry. 01:09:39.997 --> 01:09:50.161 But the bottom line is, is that if you consider yourself a thinking, critically thinking, always learning MD, like apparently, or, or D O, 01:09:51.147 --> 01:09:51.908 or M.D. 01:09:52.488 --> 01:09:53.229 or M.D. 01:09:53.369 --> 01:09:54.049 or D.O. 01:09:54.530 --> 01:09:59.613 then you have to make progress because there's progress to be made. 01:10:00.554 --> 01:10:09.541 Gigaohm Biological has shown you definitively over the last two years that there is progress to be made from the current place where C.H.D. 01:10:09.641 --> 01:10:16.185 and Brian Hooker and Mary Holland and Merrill Nass and Andrew Wakefield and Polly Tommy and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:10:16.225 --> 01:10:17.446 apparently find themselves. 01:10:17.907 --> 01:10:20.569 There is lots of progress to be made from what this 01:10:21.149 --> 01:10:27.790 Scripted traitor is saying there's lots of progress to be made from what this person has said since interviewing me twice. 01:10:27.870 --> 01:10:36.772 There's lots of progress to be made from where this person has said, but they're not making the progress because they are traitors or they are really dumb. 01:10:39.533 --> 01:10:42.253 Or they're just vulnerable to three people lying to them. 01:10:44.014 --> 01:10:47.014 Maybe Larry is just vulnerable to be lied by these two. 01:10:47.214 --> 01:10:47.634 I don't know. 01:10:47.714 --> 01:10:50.295 Maybe she's vulnerable to being lied to by these three. 01:10:52.230 --> 01:11:02.535 But the vast majority of these people with multiple books are definitely, without a doubt, they are scripted traders, or they'd be dead like Tony and Brandy. 01:11:06.517 --> 01:11:15.101 Now, what I wanna do, uh-oh, might have a little crashy crash here, we might have to, ooh, let's see, come on, girl. 01:11:16.322 --> 01:11:16.942 Break out of it. 01:11:20.768 --> 01:11:21.849 We might have a problem here. 01:11:21.869 --> 01:11:22.810 Just hold on one second. 01:11:22.830 --> 01:11:24.070 We'll see what's gonna go on here. 01:11:24.491 --> 01:11:26.052 Sometimes my computer locks up. 01:11:26.072 --> 01:11:26.893 Are we still live? 01:11:26.933 --> 01:11:27.753 Can you still see me? 01:11:29.034 --> 01:11:33.097 Because sometimes PowerPoint doesn't like me. 01:11:33.157 --> 01:11:33.938 Can you still see me? 01:11:34.218 --> 01:11:35.499 10penny had a stroke, I read. 01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:39.262 As long as you can still see me and hear me, then I think we're okay. 01:11:39.502 --> 01:11:40.863 I can probably explain it. 01:11:42.344 --> 01:11:46.047 And otherwise I'll just frame by frame it with this control alt delete stuff. 01:11:46.783 --> 01:11:47.803 Can you still see me? 01:11:48.403 --> 01:11:49.544 Can you still hear me? 01:11:50.404 --> 01:11:50.924 Anyone? 01:11:52.024 --> 01:11:53.924 Yes, we see you. 01:11:54.005 --> 01:11:54.985 Can you also hear me? 01:11:55.685 --> 01:11:59.566 Because if so, then I'm just going to end PowerPoint. 01:11:59.726 --> 01:12:00.986 Let's see, did it do it now? 01:12:01.906 --> 01:12:02.406 There we go. 01:12:02.926 --> 01:12:06.927 I dug through it and threw it up and made a huge big stink about it. 01:12:07.187 --> 01:12:09.288 Went to Europe and talked to their parliaments. 01:12:09.708 --> 01:12:14.849 Okay, so what I want to do is I want to look at this from a realistic perspective. 01:12:14.869 --> 01:12:15.189 Now look, 01:12:16.295 --> 01:12:24.043 RNA cannot pandemic gain of function is a myth, but the whole vaccine illusion is perpetuated by this bullshit right here. 01:12:26.305 --> 01:12:27.707 Given too many, too early. 01:12:28.908 --> 01:12:36.956 The no virus people are also making it really hard to make any progress on the truth, which is of course that intramuscular injection is a dumb idea from the late 1800s. 01:12:38.736 --> 01:12:39.877 It's not about health freedom. 01:12:39.917 --> 01:12:41.278 It's not about having a choice. 01:12:41.918 --> 01:12:45.501 It's not about gain of function or DNA plasmids that contaminate shots. 01:12:45.561 --> 01:12:47.782 It's not about adjuvants or excipients. 01:12:47.842 --> 01:12:56.388 It's not about MMR or DDP or thimerosal or adjuvants or mercury or aluminum. 01:12:57.509 --> 01:12:58.930 It's not about Tylenol. 01:12:59.050 --> 01:13:00.891 It's not about no placebo testing. 01:13:02.573 --> 01:13:05.254 It's about intramuscular injection being a dumb idea from the 1800s. 01:13:07.898 --> 01:13:08.999 That's how we break the wheel. 01:13:11.300 --> 01:13:25.170 We challenge any MD or DO or clinical scientist to justify how it is mechanistically that the body is able to deal with a combination of substances injected intramuscularly. 01:13:30.666 --> 01:13:34.188 It'd be a really interesting question to ask, you know, Paul Offit. 01:13:34.228 --> 01:13:39.210 Why would you advocate for, you know, ideally there being only oral vaccines? 01:13:39.250 --> 01:13:40.610 What would be gained by that? 01:13:40.670 --> 01:13:45.493 What, what are the potential downsides of intramuscular injection that you can imagine? 01:13:47.754 --> 01:13:53.236 You see, we're not making any progress there because these people are all scripted traders, liars on a script. 01:13:54.619 --> 01:13:58.428 That's why we have a health freedom movement that's fake because of these facts. 01:13:58.529 --> 01:14:00.614 Intramuscular injection is just dumb. 01:14:02.631 --> 01:14:07.254 And so after the music, I'm not going to discuss this. 01:14:08.154 --> 01:14:10.435 This list is just spectacular, though. 01:14:11.536 --> 01:14:18.379 If you want anybody to do anything or address anything, you should have them address this list right here because nobody will talk about these things. 01:14:21.321 --> 01:14:22.301 It's really remarkable. 01:14:22.501 --> 01:14:25.463 After the music, I am going to start with 01:14:27.711 --> 01:14:29.433 start with this video and see how far we get. 01:14:29.453 --> 01:14:34.237 We'll probably only watch about a half an hour of it because I do need to do some basketball today as well. 01:14:34.317 --> 01:14:35.278 Thanks for being here guys. 01:14:35.918 --> 01:14:37.179 Turn it up loud. 01:17:18.091 --> 01:17:18.696 But I was 01:18:42.236 --> 01:18:44.957 It's actually an interesting question to put in the chat there. 01:18:45.177 --> 01:18:47.698 Sorry, dumb implies something better. 01:18:49.478 --> 01:18:50.719 There might be something better. 01:18:52.799 --> 01:18:59.842 I am absolutely positively, I hate to break it to you, but I am very open to the idea that we have an immune system. 01:18:59.942 --> 01:19:06.644 I'm very open to the idea that the immune system is part of us that interacts with our 01:19:07.744 --> 01:19:10.445 microbiome in our gut and the microbiome in our skin. 01:19:11.105 --> 01:19:25.769 And so I have no doubt in my mind that there might be a way to augment that interaction and that interplay between the immune system and the microbiome during digestion and through 01:19:26.309 --> 01:19:34.795 environmental exposure, that that can become maladaptive, that can become out of balance, that can become somehow out of sync, out of whack. 01:19:35.495 --> 01:19:41.339 And so there is a reason why you might want to be able to molecularly interact with our body in that way. 01:19:42.080 --> 01:19:46.503 But I do not think in any way, shape, or form that intramuscular injection could ever 01:19:47.540 --> 01:19:48.361 be that way. 01:19:49.301 --> 01:19:58.109 That's why I think the statement, intramuscular injection is dumb, is so vitally important to understand and be able to explain it. 01:19:58.769 --> 01:20:12.841 Because there very well may be some evidence in history that variolation on the skin to a smallpox infection was effective at mitigating exposure to it in the future. 01:20:13.601 --> 01:20:14.382 It's possible. 01:20:17.509 --> 01:20:29.580 It's possible that an oral vaccine for a oral bacteriophage or an oral bacteria imbalance might be something that would work, would have an effect. 01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:31.382 There might be signals down there. 01:20:31.762 --> 01:20:33.824 We know for sure there are bacteriophages. 01:20:34.905 --> 01:20:42.232 The vast majority of any signals that would be found when sampling the mucosa of a mammal would be bacteriophage signals. 01:20:43.982 --> 01:20:48.446 signals that are never discussed in the context of there are no viruses. 01:20:49.467 --> 01:20:55.152 Even though when you look those people up and find out what they were talking about, all of them acknowledge that those signals exist. 01:20:55.972 --> 01:21:01.717 So it is an irreducibly complex background and there may be reason to augment our responses to it. 01:21:02.858 --> 01:21:09.484 I just don't think that right now intramuscular injection of a combination of substances has even approached that goal. 01:21:11.636 --> 01:21:15.378 And I think for a very, very long time, they've just let it go on knowing that. 01:21:15.658 --> 01:21:18.560 Somehow or another, they've just let it go on knowing that. 01:21:21.121 --> 01:21:23.423 It's a very malevolent place that we are right now. 01:21:23.483 --> 01:21:28.105 There is no doubt about that this is a really, really bad, bad place we are at. 01:21:29.847 --> 01:21:30.687 Is this the right one? 01:21:33.288 --> 01:21:34.109 I think this is the one. 01:21:58.035 --> 01:22:10.403 Now, the first thing that I noticed about this, which really drives me bananas, is that all of the podcasts that you see behind you right now and going, he's either wearing socks or he's wearing bare feet. 01:22:11.484 --> 01:22:15.186 But in the podcast we're about to watch right now, he's wearing Jordan 3s. 01:22:17.287 --> 01:22:18.528 You think that's by accident? 01:22:19.349 --> 01:22:19.669 I don't. 01:22:21.220 --> 01:22:24.423 I think that's how close we are to pushing this wall over. 01:22:25.164 --> 01:22:34.774 Is that almost everything that we do and everything that we say needs to be somehow absorbed or kind of neutralized by these clowns. 01:22:34.994 --> 01:22:43.824 Including the statement that he's going to open with is that he thinks that he was also following Toni Barth because she did a lot of great work in this paradigm. 01:22:46.212 --> 01:22:50.534 I'm going to start that over again so you can see the bare feet and make sure that you don't miss it. 01:22:52.014 --> 01:23:09.120 Because it's important to see that is an odd, it's an odd thing to have in your reel, you know, like in your many different sets that you've been with, you know, different sets of chairs, different arrangements of the camera. 01:23:09.520 --> 01:23:13.762 And he's always got socks on or bare feet until this podcast where he's got Jordans on. 01:23:16.414 --> 01:23:18.715 I'm just gonna, oops, I did it again. 01:23:18.735 --> 01:23:19.775 I gotta set this. 01:23:26.197 --> 01:23:28.418 And of course one eyeball, that's awesome. 01:23:29.238 --> 01:23:36.600 Eyeball. 01:23:40.762 --> 01:23:41.182 Socks. 01:23:47.850 --> 01:23:48.390 Barefoot. 01:23:55.636 --> 01:23:58.357 Eyeballs. 01:24:01.640 --> 01:24:06.303 Dr. Sherry Tinpenny, the, I don't wanna say the man, the myth, the legend, the woman, the myth, the legend. 01:24:07.704 --> 01:24:10.046 So when I first started questioning. 01:24:10.146 --> 01:24:12.447 Now I want you to remember what he told us before. 01:24:12.487 --> 01:24:17.231 He told us he's a grocery store clerk that sells boomers and got put out of business. 01:24:18.810 --> 01:24:20.831 He was building an inner standing. 01:24:20.931 --> 01:24:25.294 He was already living very well before he understood why it was so important to live well. 01:24:25.834 --> 01:24:27.235 He was skeptical of pharma. 01:24:27.655 --> 01:24:32.978 He was skeptical of the relationship between pharma and the media and government or something like that. 01:24:32.998 --> 01:24:35.600 He had a son that he put vaccines on hold for. 01:24:36.260 --> 01:24:40.904 but he was still scared of being around other people because he didn't have the protection of the vaccines. 01:24:41.364 --> 01:24:43.766 And he was kind of surprised that his kid didn't get sick. 01:24:43.806 --> 01:24:50.772 And so then he started to do some more research, but basically found himself in the, in the trad terrain space. 01:24:52.253 --> 01:24:58.455 So let's hear in 2025, how he explains he came to his understanding of things. 01:24:58.775 --> 01:25:07.277 In vaccines back in 2016, just after I commissioned as an officer in the army, graduated from West Point and was fully indoctrinated into a government paradigm. 01:25:08.658 --> 01:25:16.100 Fully indoctrinated into a government paradigm, but he wanted to hold off on vaccines for his son? 01:25:17.440 --> 01:25:19.080 When did that happen exactly? 01:25:19.120 --> 01:25:19.941 That's weird, right? 01:25:20.001 --> 01:25:20.221 Okay. 01:25:21.925 --> 01:25:26.919 A series of events happened with my family that led me to start questioning things with respect to health. 01:25:27.441 --> 01:25:28.785 That's not very specific. 01:25:30.397 --> 01:25:35.799 He said in this interview, the other interview, that he had a son and he decided to hold off on vaccines. 01:25:35.819 --> 01:25:38.980 Now he says it's a whole series of events in his family that happened. 01:25:39.620 --> 01:25:43.001 Wow, that sounds like, it sounds like he might be a liar. 01:25:43.742 --> 01:25:52.465 And when I started questioning vaccines, some of the first people that I came across were you, Dr. Larry Pilevsky, shout out to Dr. P, love him. 01:25:53.085 --> 01:25:56.446 The guy on the podcast that I just showed you yesterday and again today. 01:25:57.881 --> 01:26:01.845 And then I think it was Dr. Tony Bark at the time and rest in peace to Dr. Tony Bark. 01:26:01.885 --> 01:26:04.567 She did a lot of incredible work in this paradigm. 01:26:04.967 --> 01:26:07.950 A lot of incredible work in this paradigm. 01:26:08.010 --> 01:26:09.231 What does that even mean? 01:26:11.613 --> 01:26:13.555 What does that even mean? 01:26:14.276 --> 01:26:18.199 Does that mean that she did some great performances? 01:26:19.020 --> 01:26:24.205 Does that mean that she, you know, could speak for hours? 01:26:25.976 --> 01:26:29.359 Some great work in this paradigm. 01:26:29.779 --> 01:26:30.480 Stop lying. 01:26:34.783 --> 01:26:39.167 But I want to give you a lot of credit for my initial entry into this space. 01:26:39.287 --> 01:26:43.151 And it is pretty surreal to have you now sitting across from me. 01:26:43.291 --> 01:26:48.395 This sounds like a scripted elevation to the highest point in the movement, right? 01:26:48.435 --> 01:26:49.996 I got to give you a lot of credit. 01:26:50.016 --> 01:26:51.758 You're like one of the first people I saw. 01:26:52.218 --> 01:26:53.840 So it wasn't Suzanne Humphries. 01:26:54.753 --> 01:27:03.376 even though at any event that Tenpenny would have been at, Susan Humphreys would have been the bigger draw. 01:27:03.456 --> 01:27:05.297 Susan Humphreys would have been the bigger draw. 01:27:06.497 --> 01:27:08.258 Brian Hooker would have been the bigger draw. 01:27:10.939 --> 01:27:14.280 Brandy Vaughn, Tony Bark, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:27:14.340 --> 01:27:19.742 So it's really interesting that he's insisting that for him, it was really Sherry Tenpenny. 01:27:22.796 --> 01:27:31.983 having a chat and gave me a signed copy of your new book, Zero Accountability in a Failed System, How Big Pharma Weaponizes Vaccines, Public Health, and the Law. 01:27:32.383 --> 01:27:34.065 And you can find this in the show notes. 01:27:34.985 --> 01:27:40.650 And I just want to thank you so much for all your work over the years and for being here and sitting with me for this conversation. 01:27:41.030 --> 01:27:42.672 Well, thank you so much for having me Alec. 01:27:43.032 --> 01:27:47.957 You know, we before we started we talked as Mark pointed out This is a studio who knows where it is. 01:27:48.077 --> 01:27:50.059 He's got $300 microphones. 01:27:50.139 --> 01:27:54.623 My microphones are $30 He's clearly got someone else running his switcher. 01:27:54.663 --> 01:28:04.373 He's got someone else doing the stream He's got probably someone else doing the cameras or the audio because there's more than one angle here Ladies and gentlemen 01:28:06.687 --> 01:28:08.509 This is not by accident. 01:28:08.649 --> 01:28:12.052 This is not a grocery store clerk trying to start a podcast. 01:28:12.152 --> 01:28:17.177 This is a military operation with military actors. 01:28:18.069 --> 01:28:20.110 You want to know why Sasha Latupova is right? 01:28:20.150 --> 01:28:23.110 Because it is a military operation on social media. 01:28:23.311 --> 01:28:24.171 That's how she's right. 01:28:24.431 --> 01:28:25.251 Talked about Austin. 01:28:27.052 --> 01:28:28.672 It's a big place for people. 01:28:28.992 --> 01:28:32.453 So instead of saying, yeah, Toni Bark was kick ass. 01:28:32.533 --> 01:28:35.074 It's so sucks that she and Brandi died in 2020. 01:28:35.434 --> 01:28:38.215 She starts with joking about how big Austin is. 01:28:38.755 --> 01:28:47.021 You know, the place where Andrew Wakefield has a ranch worth more than a million dollars, the place where Polly Tommy has a ranch more than worth more than $1 million. 01:28:47.041 --> 01:28:55.648 You know, the two foreigners that own fricking property in America as a result of pretending that the MMR vaccine kind of hurt her son. 01:28:55.668 --> 01:29:06.356 And she was on 90 billboards in her bra swaying 6 million votes for prime minister before she moved to America to pull the same stupid shit here with these people. 01:29:07.577 --> 01:29:07.937 Austin. 01:29:09.278 --> 01:29:11.401 You know, where Joe Rogan moved. 01:29:14.625 --> 01:29:18.731 Where, where Weinstein lives, where, where Musk lives. 01:29:21.817 --> 01:29:22.818 I don't know it ever been here. 01:29:22.878 --> 01:29:25.039 You drive for an hour to get. 01:29:25.140 --> 01:29:30.083 So when people say they live in Austin, I think the question is, what part of Austin do you live in? 01:29:30.344 --> 01:29:32.445 Because it's a big place down here. 01:29:32.705 --> 01:29:40.011 It is a helpful qualifying statement to say, hey, I live in the Austin area, but that also means I live about an hour, 10 minutes away from Austin. 01:29:40.051 --> 01:29:44.174 Let me just reiterate that I think that this jackass was scripted to say Tony Bark. 01:29:44.214 --> 01:29:45.775 I bet he didn't even know who she was. 01:29:46.636 --> 01:29:55.102 And the reason why you can tell she, that he was scripted to say it is because Sherry Tenpenny doesn't admit that she knew her, doesn't say anything or respect her at all. 01:29:55.582 --> 01:30:04.008 Because actually Sherry Tenpenny in the description of this video is described as an ER physician, which curiously enough is what Tony Bark was. 01:30:04.048 --> 01:30:09.012 Although Tony Bark was a real ER physician with an MD, had a real ER. 01:30:09.032 --> 01:30:12.274 I don't know where this fake worked with her DO. 01:30:13.933 --> 01:30:17.778 But there weren't very many heads of ERs that had DOs. 01:30:17.858 --> 01:30:18.999 I can tell you that right now. 01:30:19.279 --> 01:30:19.960 Or whatever it is. 01:30:20.040 --> 01:30:24.446 And I've had guests come out who then appear on Luke Story's podcast. 01:30:24.766 --> 01:30:31.214 Austin has also given us Barry Weiss and the University of Austin, which is one of the biggest scams of all time. 01:30:32.490 --> 01:30:42.154 or Dave Asprey's podcast or Josh Trent's podcast later that day, or you know, in your case, you're going on another podcast right after this and they're, they get here and they're like, you say you're in the Austin area. 01:30:42.194 --> 01:30:42.854 I'm like, well, yeah. 01:30:43.314 --> 01:30:47.816 It is admitting that we are being ruled by podcast. 01:30:49.697 --> 01:30:55.679 Scripted liars on a shitty script can convince us of anything. 01:30:57.657 --> 01:31:02.961 I am in the Austin area and they're like, well, so does this other guy, but his studio is an hour, 20 minutes away from yours. 01:31:03.001 --> 01:31:04.362 So what am I supposed to do? 01:31:05.022 --> 01:31:08.544 Like, so I guess we just need to be a little bit more specific about where exactly that is. 01:31:09.945 --> 01:31:15.069 So before we begin this episode, I just want to sort of frame the conversation for those who are listening and watching. 01:31:15.749 --> 01:31:23.633 Obviously if you tune into my work often you know my position on on virology and you can check that out episode 141. 01:31:24.373 --> 01:31:26.774 I do not want to get into that in this conversation. 01:31:26.814 --> 01:31:28.915 That is not the intention of this conversation. 01:31:29.355 --> 01:31:32.457 The intention of this episode with Dr. Tenpenny because 01:31:33.317 --> 01:31:42.141 Like when I first came across questioning vaccines for the first time, turning towards good resources for those who are just beginning to question these things. 01:31:42.561 --> 01:31:45.463 Dr. Tenpenny is one of the best people for that. 01:31:45.523 --> 01:31:46.523 Honestly, she really is. 01:31:46.563 --> 01:31:55.187 So one of the things you can see and listen to here, the enchantment is that laying down the narrative that you got a lot of long ways to go before you're going to understand it all. 01:31:56.104 --> 01:31:59.625 There's so much you got to learn in order to understand all of this. 01:31:59.665 --> 01:32:12.047 There's binders and binders of papers and thousands and thousands of hours you're going to have to do in order to really understand how bad it is that intramuscular injection is just a dumb idea from the 1800s. 01:32:12.087 --> 01:32:13.408 You see why it's so stupid? 01:32:14.048 --> 01:32:15.568 Do you see why it's so stupid? 01:32:16.368 --> 01:32:23.930 These people have been on this shitty run out the clock script for so long that they deserve nothing but prison. 01:32:25.740 --> 01:32:33.867 And so the purpose of this is to sort of act as a vaccine 101 sort of style discussion and interview. 01:32:35.128 --> 01:32:40.612 I consider myself to be quite knowledgeable on this, but she's been doing this for a long time when it comes to vaccines. 01:32:40.773 --> 01:32:41.833 So I'm. 01:32:43.475 --> 01:32:44.055 Oh, damn it. 01:32:44.936 --> 01:32:45.837 What is happening here? 01:32:46.177 --> 01:32:47.418 Something screwed up with this. 01:32:51.521 --> 01:32:52.162 Let's see here. 01:32:52.342 --> 01:32:54.444 Animations, animation pain. 01:32:56.713 --> 01:32:57.773 Start with previous. 01:32:57.873 --> 01:32:58.954 Oh, those don't fade out. 01:32:59.234 --> 01:33:02.435 Okay, let's do this and this and this. 01:33:05.636 --> 01:33:06.436 And there it goes. 01:33:07.736 --> 01:33:08.456 Sorry about that. 01:33:08.476 --> 01:33:10.157 Slideshow, current slide. 01:33:10.217 --> 01:33:13.638 I'll fast forward this a little bit. 01:33:13.678 --> 01:33:14.678 I'll fast forward it a little bit. 01:33:14.698 --> 01:33:16.579 I promise, I promise, I promise I'll fast forward. 01:33:16.659 --> 01:33:23.461 ...podcast or Josh Trent's podcast later that day or, you know, in your case, you're going on another podcast right after this and they're, they get here and they're like, 01:33:24.221 --> 01:33:25.502 You say you're in the Austin area. 01:33:25.542 --> 01:33:27.283 I'm like, well, yeah, I am in the Austin area. 01:33:27.323 --> 01:33:30.786 So does this other guy, but his studio is in 141. 01:33:31.526 --> 01:33:33.928 I do not want to get into that in this conversation. 01:33:33.948 --> 01:33:36.049 That is not the intention of this conversation. 01:33:36.490 --> 01:33:39.412 The intention of this episode with Dr. T- You see the Jordans? 01:33:39.672 --> 01:33:41.253 That's quite a bit of difference, right? 01:33:41.353 --> 01:33:48.298 If you were going barefoot and you were going wool socks, and now you're going full sweatshop, Chinese made, 01:33:50.200 --> 01:33:51.701 That's pretty impressive, don't you think? 01:33:51.881 --> 01:33:53.122 I think that's pretty impressive. 01:33:53.162 --> 01:33:54.102 I think that's scripted. 01:33:54.883 --> 01:34:08.950 Tenpenny, because like when I first came across questioning vaccines for the first time, turning towards good resources for those who are just beginning to question these things, Dr. Tenpenny is one of the best people for that. 01:34:09.011 --> 01:34:10.051 Honestly, she really is. 01:34:10.291 --> 01:34:18.356 And so the purpose of this is to sort of act as a vaccine 101 sort of style discussion and interview. 01:34:19.656 --> 01:34:25.139 I consider myself to be quite knowledgeable on this, but she's been doing this for a long time when it comes to vaccines. 01:34:25.299 --> 01:34:32.902 So I'm excited to be able to pick her brain and have her fill in the gaps in some of my knowledge on the vaccine paradigm. 01:34:33.082 --> 01:34:44.267 And again, this episode will be incredibly useful to send to family members, loved ones, coming from the mouth of an expert, from a credentialed expert, a DO, right? 01:34:44.307 --> 01:34:45.127 Doctor of Osteopathy. 01:34:45.207 --> 01:34:45.447 Okay. 01:34:45.908 --> 01:34:46.088 A DO. 01:34:47.793 --> 01:34:50.895 I think this will be a very helpful episode to send people. 01:34:50.976 --> 01:35:08.327 So I'd like to start with you sort of just sharing your Your process I have listened to this once and I've got to warn you I'm gonna go bananas because this woman is about to say something so profound and 01:35:09.691 --> 01:35:18.139 And it had such an effect on me earlier today that I'm, I'm, I'm almost certain it's going to have the same effect on me again when I hear it again, and I might flip out. 01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:20.381 So just be warned. 01:35:21.402 --> 01:35:21.902 It's coming. 01:35:24.745 --> 01:35:31.591 That's in discovering the problems with vaccines initially as someone who went to medical school. 01:35:32.172 --> 01:35:32.292 So. 01:35:33.752 --> 01:35:35.634 Well, I grew up in a chiropractic family. 01:35:36.314 --> 01:35:39.597 My grandfather, my father, three uncles, and two cousins were chiropractors. 01:35:40.218 --> 01:35:42.700 So I was not vaccinated at all as a child. 01:35:43.461 --> 01:35:48.486 I grew up on Shackley vitamins and regular adjustments. 01:35:48.626 --> 01:35:55.052 And so I had measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, had pertussis twice. 01:35:55.812 --> 01:36:04.843 Um, my dad had, um, had, you know, his father was a chiropractor and he had gone to the Korean war and he said he was never so sick in his entire life. 01:36:04.943 --> 01:36:07.826 And when he got out, you know, that was, and, uh, he and my mom got married in 1956. 01:36:13.232 --> 01:36:16.857 I was born in 1958, which tells you how old I am. 01:36:16.877 --> 01:36:17.979 I've been around a long time. 01:36:18.559 --> 01:36:23.305 And that was when the polio vaccine came out in 1954. 01:36:23.906 --> 01:36:30.215 And in the chiropractic literature, there was a lot of stuff that was being published about children who became paralyzed. 01:36:30.655 --> 01:36:34.997 or had a flaccid limb or something like that after getting a polio vaccine. 01:36:35.397 --> 01:36:47.902 And so when I was born, you know, those two things together, my dad being sick after getting all those shots and then what was he was seeing in the chiropractic literature, he and my mom made the decision that I was not going to be vaccinated and I wasn't. 01:36:48.542 --> 01:36:54.966 And it was interesting because I lived in a very small town in north, kind of north central Ohio. 01:36:55.346 --> 01:36:57.928 There was about 800 people in the population. 01:36:58.368 --> 01:37:03.511 And we had a local family doctor who made an appointment one day to come in and talk to my dad in his office. 01:37:03.911 --> 01:37:05.892 And he said, you've got to get a handle on your wife. 01:37:06.573 --> 01:37:07.393 And he's like, why? 01:37:07.413 --> 01:37:10.255 And he said, well, she has to vaccinate your child. 01:37:10.755 --> 01:37:17.379 And my dad physically picked him up and threw him out of his office and went on a campaign to get him run out of town, which he did. 01:37:18.553 --> 01:37:20.994 That is a pretty extraordinary story. 01:37:21.054 --> 01:37:23.276 So she grew up in a chiropractic family. 01:37:23.356 --> 01:37:45.368 She's unvaccinated because her parents decided, um, what they saw in the chiropractic literature and the fact that when the dad went to the Korean war, um, he got sicker than he's ever been after the shots that he got to go to the Korean war. 01:37:45.468 --> 01:37:48.110 So then his, the father, 01:37:50.862 --> 01:37:51.683 Open my pen here. 01:37:51.783 --> 01:38:02.749 Tossed a dude out of his office and then ran him out of town? 01:38:05.216 --> 01:38:06.037 Is that what she said? 01:38:06.097 --> 01:38:09.682 Because I gotta make sure that that's exactly what she said, because that's interesting. 01:38:09.762 --> 01:38:11.424 In true chiropractic fashion, by the way. 01:38:11.485 --> 01:38:12.786 In true chiropractic fashion. 01:38:13.127 --> 01:38:21.778 My dad was, after getting all those shots, and then what he was seeing in the chiropractic literature, he and my mom made the decision that I was not going to be vaccinated, and I wasn't. 01:38:22.399 --> 01:38:28.841 And it was interesting because I lived in a very small town in north, kind of north central Ohio. 01:38:29.201 --> 01:38:31.782 There was about 800 people in the population. 01:38:32.242 --> 01:38:37.363 And we had a local family doctor who made an appointment one day to come in and talk to my dad in his office. 01:38:37.763 --> 01:38:39.764 And he said, you've got to get a handle on your wife. 01:38:40.424 --> 01:38:41.264 And he's like, why? 01:38:41.284 --> 01:38:44.105 And he said, well, she has to vaccinate your child. 01:38:44.605 --> 01:38:51.247 And my dad physically picked him up and threw him out of his office and went on a campaign to get him run out of town, which he did. 01:38:51.867 --> 01:39:13.533 Now, I'm trying to make sure that you digest that this is her claim of her childhood understanding of vaccines being formed around parents who knew not to vaccinate her and in fact got into a confrontation with somebody that resulted in a physical assault and running the guy out of town. 01:39:15.202 --> 01:39:16.682 That's a remarkable story. 01:39:16.722 --> 01:39:18.783 My dad didn't run anybody out of town. 01:39:19.243 --> 01:39:23.064 My dad was a big dude and he didn't throw anybody out of the house ever. 01:39:25.785 --> 01:39:31.046 My mom picked me up and threw me against the wall sometimes or threw me on the ground, but my dad never did any of that. 01:39:31.086 --> 01:39:33.767 Like, so this is a pretty impressive story. 01:39:34.347 --> 01:39:36.207 I wonder if he came home and told him. 01:39:36.747 --> 01:39:38.208 I'm sure he didn't have a video. 01:39:39.668 --> 01:39:41.629 It's a very impressive story. 01:39:41.709 --> 01:39:42.709 When did this happen? 01:39:44.087 --> 01:39:47.709 when she was six, when she was eight, maybe when she was 15. 01:39:47.809 --> 01:39:51.372 She has a pretty vivid memory of it. 01:39:52.713 --> 01:39:55.014 Ran him out of town, wow. 01:39:55.454 --> 01:39:57.215 In true chiropractic fashion, by the way. 01:39:57.235 --> 01:39:58.476 In true chiropractic fashion. 01:39:58.816 --> 01:40:01.678 My dad was about 6'2 and really buffed up. 01:40:01.738 --> 01:40:04.540 And so he was a good looking man when he was younger. 01:40:04.800 --> 01:40:07.062 Well, when he was older too, but especially when he was younger. 01:40:07.742 --> 01:40:11.386 So I never gave it a second thought, you know, at anything. 01:40:11.426 --> 01:40:16.371 I mean, we raised horses when I was growing up and, you know, everybody's so afraid about tetanus and horses. 01:40:16.471 --> 01:40:18.933 And I never, it was never a big deal to me. 01:40:19.434 --> 01:40:25.039 Went to medical school, graduated from medical school and, and we got no training at all about vaccines. 01:40:25.179 --> 01:40:29.224 I mean, in fact, at that point in time, there was up until 1985, there's only three vaccines 01:40:30.865 --> 01:40:32.726 polio, MMR and DPT. 01:40:33.146 --> 01:40:34.987 So I mean, what was there to talk about? 01:40:35.168 --> 01:40:37.129 And so they didn't really talk about any of that stuff. 01:40:37.569 --> 01:40:40.411 When I graduated from medical school, I went into emergency medicine. 01:40:41.031 --> 01:40:51.077 But your dad threw somebody out of his office and ran him out of town for suggesting that he should control his wife and get you vaccinated. 01:40:51.949 --> 01:41:00.153 So you went to med school and you didn't have this burnt into your head and then wonder why don't we even talk about these things? 01:41:00.493 --> 01:41:11.938 It's a strange disconnect here because such a traumatic experience, such an emotional and energetic experience of having your dad run somebody out of town. 01:41:13.456 --> 01:41:14.598 You'd think you'd know why. 01:41:15.120 --> 01:41:17.104 You'd think you'd ask some questions, right? 01:41:17.144 --> 01:41:22.475 The kid that was eventually going to go to med school must have said, hey dad, why don't you, what is he wrong about? 01:41:23.942 --> 01:41:25.003 It's so weird. 01:41:25.423 --> 01:41:26.944 It almost is like she's a lion. 01:41:27.645 --> 01:41:31.007 And I gave out zillions of tetanus shots. 01:41:31.067 --> 01:41:32.928 Like they were some special kind of candy. 01:41:33.428 --> 01:41:34.729 Never read a package insert. 01:41:34.789 --> 01:41:36.330 Never anything at that point in time. 01:41:36.370 --> 01:41:37.351 Because why? 01:41:37.711 --> 01:41:52.501 Because your dad threw somebody out of an office when you were a kid and ran him out of town because he didn't believe in vaccines because he had read the chiropractic literature and decided after long consideration with your mom, not to vaccinate you. 01:41:52.541 --> 01:41:53.502 Maybe that's why. 01:41:54.842 --> 01:41:55.982 Isn't that weird? 01:41:56.043 --> 01:41:58.063 It's almost like she's lying. 01:41:59.443 --> 01:42:00.824 No, it's safe and effective, right? 01:42:00.864 --> 01:42:01.524 Safe and effective. 01:42:02.404 --> 01:42:13.267 And the kids... Who told her that it's safe and effective if her dad threw somebody out of the office and ran him out of town in the old school chiropractic style? 01:42:14.747 --> 01:42:16.147 This doesn't make sense. 01:42:16.307 --> 01:42:23.429 Either she didn't learn anything from what her dad did or her dad actually didn't do that. 01:42:26.618 --> 01:42:30.119 But you know, far be it for me to say that somebody's lying. 01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:32.159 I just think that this doesn't make any sense. 01:42:32.219 --> 01:42:33.580 The story doesn't jive. 01:42:34.020 --> 01:42:38.361 If I was sitting around at a bar and somebody was telling me this story, I'd have to stop them. 01:42:41.922 --> 01:42:45.243 I would absolutely positively have to stop them. 01:42:45.734 --> 01:42:51.778 So we'd come in with ear infections and sinus infections and crying and fevers and miserable. 01:42:51.858 --> 01:42:54.939 And the nurses would come up to me and say, well, they're behind on their vaccine. 01:42:54.959 --> 01:42:55.820 Should we catch them up? 01:42:56.420 --> 01:42:58.081 And I said, no, don't bother with that. 01:42:58.121 --> 01:42:59.902 They got enough to deal with right now. 01:42:59.962 --> 01:43:01.583 Their family doctor can deal with that later. 01:43:01.964 --> 01:43:04.605 And that was pretty much the extent of my knowledge of vaccines. 01:43:05.005 --> 01:43:07.447 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 01:43:08.891 --> 01:43:14.294 So she had patients that would come to her sick, but also had family doctors. 01:43:14.455 --> 01:43:15.735 So why did they come to her? 01:43:17.276 --> 01:43:19.698 She left the vaccination up to the family doctor. 01:43:19.798 --> 01:43:25.141 How many people do you know who are going to a family doctor and also to a DO? 01:43:26.022 --> 01:43:28.023 Is it for like extra opinions? 01:43:29.044 --> 01:43:31.826 What in the Sam hell is she talking about here? 01:43:32.873 --> 01:43:33.153 What? 01:43:33.754 --> 01:43:35.535 About, well, up till two. 01:43:35.915 --> 01:43:42.480 And the kids would come in with ear infections and sinus infections and crying and fevers and miserable. 01:43:42.560 --> 01:43:45.623 And the nurses would come up to me and say, well, they're behind on their vaccine. 01:43:45.643 --> 01:43:46.503 Should we catch them up? 01:43:47.124 --> 01:43:48.765 And I said, no, don't bother with that. 01:43:48.805 --> 01:43:50.586 They got enough to deal with right now. 01:43:50.646 --> 01:43:52.268 Their family doctor can deal with that later. 01:43:52.648 --> 01:43:55.270 And that was pretty much the extent of my knowledge of vaccines. 01:43:55.370 --> 01:43:56.611 That has to be a lie. 01:43:56.671 --> 01:44:01.675 That just doesn't make any sense that she's suggesting that all of her patients had another doctor. 01:44:02.395 --> 01:44:08.210 and that she had nurses that she worked with that were different nurses than worked with the family doctor. 01:44:08.271 --> 01:44:11.238 She's implying all of that with this stupid story. 01:44:13.453 --> 01:44:15.595 I just, I just, I don't know what this is. 01:44:15.615 --> 01:44:20.698 I think this is a massive, a massive failure of, of improvising. 01:44:21.539 --> 01:44:24.441 While I was up through about, well, up till 2000. 01:44:24.801 --> 01:44:29.764 So in 1996, I moved to Cleveland, started an integrative holistic practice. 01:44:29.784 --> 01:44:30.264 Ah, good one. 01:44:30.305 --> 01:44:32.766 In the chat, somebody said that she's working at an ER. 01:44:32.826 --> 01:44:41.672 So they would come into the ER sick and the ER nurses would say, should we catch them up on their vaccines in the ER? 01:44:41.812 --> 01:44:42.133 Really? 01:44:43.001 --> 01:44:44.281 That also sounds weird. 01:44:44.802 --> 01:44:45.142 Wow. 01:44:46.102 --> 01:44:53.064 And a couple of years later, there was just moms that would come into the clinic clutching their babies to their chest. 01:44:53.804 --> 01:44:55.504 Do you hear it already? 01:44:55.544 --> 01:45:03.847 What she's trying to tell you is, is that something happened and she noticed it happened because the moms were coming in, but they weren't coming in before. 01:45:04.707 --> 01:45:05.227 Do you hear it? 01:45:05.267 --> 01:45:11.609 She's trying to tell you that during her career is when this transition to herding kids started. 01:45:12.975 --> 01:45:34.195 wide eye and say what's your position on vaccines and i would say well i don't really have a position i don't really think they're necessary i don't you know i just she doesn't have a position on vaccines after her dad when she was a kid after careful consideration with the mom and reading the chiropractic literature decided to throw somebody out of his office 01:45:34.955 --> 01:45:36.496 and ran him out of town. 01:45:36.956 --> 01:45:46.022 But after that, and after med school, and after not getting taught anything, and not reading any inserts, she doesn't have a position on vaccines. 01:45:46.703 --> 01:45:50.725 Wow, what a tremendous hero this person is. 01:45:51.405 --> 01:45:55.428 And at that point in time, I didn't know anything about the 1986 Act. 01:45:55.488 --> 01:45:57.429 I didn't know about the big ramp up of the schedule. 01:45:57.449 --> 01:45:58.070 I didn't know anything. 01:45:58.230 --> 01:46:02.973 But you knew your dad threw somebody out of town for these things. 01:46:04.517 --> 01:46:09.825 You just told us you're an unvaccinated child because you're parents. 01:46:10.867 --> 01:46:14.493 What in the actual Sam hell is going on here? 01:46:15.314 --> 01:46:17.798 This is a terrible liar, ladies and gentlemen. 01:46:19.397 --> 01:46:19.917 So this was like 1998. 01:46:20.017 --> 01:46:23.179 And I was like, well, I don't think they're really necessary. 01:46:23.239 --> 01:46:25.340 I wasn't vaccinated and I'm alive to talk about it. 01:46:25.360 --> 01:46:27.121 I think I'm healthier because of it. 01:46:27.961 --> 01:46:34.565 And so that was kind of, but they planted a seed, like there must be some concern out there about vaccines. 01:46:35.785 --> 01:46:43.209 There is a concern out there about vaccines because your dad threw somebody out of his office and ran him out of town, you lying, scripted traitor. 01:46:44.030 --> 01:46:44.270 Wow. 01:46:45.418 --> 01:46:47.726 It's almost like it had no effect on her at all, right? 01:46:52.694 --> 01:46:58.058 I got a flyer in the mail for the National Vaccine Information Center annual conference. 01:46:58.739 --> 01:47:02.301 So NVIC is a small nonprofit in Washington, D.C. 01:47:02.361 --> 01:47:06.445 I picked up the flyer and it was such an inconvenient time for me to go. 01:47:06.965 --> 01:47:10.448 And so I even went so far as to call them and say, when's your next conference? 01:47:10.468 --> 01:47:11.929 Because I don't think I can make it to this one. 01:47:12.449 --> 01:47:13.490 They said, well, we're a small. 01:47:13.790 --> 01:47:14.851 That's this conference. 01:47:14.911 --> 01:47:15.672 That's this book. 01:47:15.912 --> 01:47:20.816 That's Barbara Lowe Fisher, the organization that she's talking about. 01:47:20.856 --> 01:47:22.137 And she says it's the DTP. 01:47:23.581 --> 01:47:26.823 non-profit, I don't, we don't even know if we'll have another conference. 01:47:27.444 --> 01:47:34.368 So every time I went to throw, and it was, I distinctly remember it was on gray paper, just a trifold with nothing fancy. 01:47:34.749 --> 01:47:39.312 Every time I went to throw it in the wastebasket, I just put it back on the counter. 01:47:39.352 --> 01:47:41.613 Somehow, magically, it'll end up back on my counter. 01:47:41.653 --> 01:47:42.114 And I thought, 01:47:42.794 --> 01:48:04.558 well you know there must be somebody really important I need to meet to go to this meeting not about something that's why I'll go so I decided to go down to this meeting was in September of 2000 there were about 700 so the paper never got thrown away because of a gut feeling and finally she decided well I must not want to throw it away so I'll go to the conference it's going to get better 01:48:04.929 --> 01:48:12.072 people there from all over the country, moms of vaccine injured kids, moms of unvaccinated kids. 01:48:12.112 --> 01:48:22.396 And I sat for three and a half days and listened to doctors, scientists, researchers, lawyers, moms, all sorts of things talking about problems associated with vaccines. 01:48:22.876 --> 01:48:25.617 And I was like, how in the world did I miss this? 01:48:27.025 --> 01:48:32.166 How in the world did you miss it indeed when your dad threw somebody out of his office and ran him out of town? 01:48:32.726 --> 01:48:35.126 How the hell did you miss this? 01:48:35.927 --> 01:48:36.487 It's crazy. 01:48:37.727 --> 01:48:40.927 You know, at this point in time, you know, I'd been a doctor for 15 years. 01:48:40.987 --> 01:48:42.688 I'd had my own clinic for four years. 01:48:42.788 --> 01:48:44.868 She'd been unvaccinated her whole life. 01:48:44.948 --> 01:48:47.949 And during her childhood, her father ran somebody out of town. 01:48:52.789 --> 01:48:54.870 How did I not know anything about this? 01:48:54.910 --> 01:48:55.710 How did I miss this? 01:48:56.877 --> 01:49:03.898 You just told us, you just told us you've known about this since you were a kid because your dad did. 01:49:04.859 --> 01:49:06.839 Come on, you silly shit. 01:49:07.859 --> 01:49:14.060 Pretty wild real quick because you grew up in a chiropractic family that was already not pro-vaccine necessarily. 01:49:14.380 --> 01:49:19.561 And that just sort of shows how deep the conditioning and also the obfuscation of true information really. 01:49:19.801 --> 01:49:23.622 Oh, obfuscation of true information says the scripted faker. 01:49:25.274 --> 01:49:32.115 using a word that he never would use otherwise, just like she's gonna use the word mythology and the word multi-generational. 01:49:34.516 --> 01:49:35.556 Scripted fools. 01:49:35.836 --> 01:49:37.236 He goes, even at that point in time. 01:49:37.356 --> 01:49:40.657 Yeah, and I just thought, where do I start? 01:49:40.717 --> 01:49:43.078 I went home and my head was just spinning. 01:49:43.118 --> 01:49:45.078 I mean, I distinctly remember coming home. 01:49:45.158 --> 01:49:50.219 Just imagine if one of these heroes would have accidentally started with ingestion versus injection. 01:49:50.899 --> 01:49:57.364 or started with intramuscular injection just being dumb and a remnant from times when people were using morphine a lot. 01:49:57.404 --> 01:50:03.248 Just imagine if somebody started there instead of where these shitheads always inevitably start. 01:50:03.709 --> 01:50:07.151 The thousands and thousands of hours of research. 01:50:07.511 --> 01:50:09.513 After that conference, I'm sitting on my couch going, 01:50:11.172 --> 01:50:12.333 What do I do with this? 01:50:12.894 --> 01:50:14.255 Well, I guess I better look into this. 01:50:15.096 --> 01:50:15.956 Where do I start? 01:50:16.477 --> 01:50:17.638 So I thought, well, let me see. 01:50:17.958 --> 01:50:21.121 If I was a lawyer, I'd probably start with Supreme Court cases. 01:50:21.741 --> 01:50:23.483 So I guess I'll start with the CDC. 01:50:23.663 --> 01:50:26.306 They're supposed to be the experts on all this vaccine stuff. 01:50:26.946 --> 01:50:33.092 So I pulled out the General Recommendations of Vaccination, which would have been the 1998 version, because this was September of 2000. 01:50:33.573 --> 01:50:38.537 And at that point in time, about every two years, they were writing kind of a new version for this. 01:50:39.038 --> 01:50:41.080 So I pulled out the 1998 version. 01:50:41.100 --> 01:50:41.761 I read it. 01:50:41.781 --> 01:50:43.342 It's like a 42-page paper. 01:50:43.382 --> 01:50:43.722 And I went, 01:50:44.485 --> 01:50:45.045 This is it? 01:50:45.065 --> 01:50:47.406 I mean, this is it? 01:50:47.426 --> 01:50:50.507 It was poorly written, very dumbed down. 01:50:51.047 --> 01:50:57.390 All the references were the CDC, so it'd be like Sherry Tempany publishing a paper and every reference was written by Sherry Tempany. 01:50:57.410 --> 01:50:59.451 I was just hit with the best analogy ever. 01:50:59.531 --> 01:51:03.572 Look, ladies and gentlemen, you wanna understand how fucked up it is right now. 01:51:03.632 --> 01:51:04.853 I'm sorry, but I'm pissed. 01:51:06.413 --> 01:51:13.656 If you are a doctor or you are a PhD scientist and you're listening to this right now, this message is really for you. 01:51:15.106 --> 01:51:17.087 I want you to think of yourself as a baker. 01:51:18.407 --> 01:51:21.529 I want you to think of yourself as a baker. 01:51:24.550 --> 01:51:31.713 And I want you to think of yourself as somebody who bakes bread and supposedly is very good at it. 01:51:38.836 --> 01:51:42.078 And I want you to think about the idea that somewhere along the line, 01:51:44.341 --> 01:51:49.923 Somebody tells you to put something that you know doesn't belong in your bread, in your bread. 01:51:52.123 --> 01:51:55.885 And you keep doing it, and the bread doesn't rise like it ever did again. 01:51:57.185 --> 01:51:59.606 The bread starts to turn out a lot less reliable. 01:52:00.166 --> 01:52:01.286 It doesn't taste as good. 01:52:02.407 --> 01:52:04.007 It sometimes doesn't rise. 01:52:04.067 --> 01:52:05.308 It sometimes is flat. 01:52:05.408 --> 01:52:06.568 It's kind of unpredictable. 01:52:09.369 --> 01:52:12.630 And you as a baker simply cannot figure it out. 01:52:13.635 --> 01:52:14.775 It's too complicated. 01:52:14.935 --> 01:52:17.716 I just can't figure out why my bread never turns out. 01:52:19.316 --> 01:52:19.976 I'm a baker. 01:52:20.156 --> 01:52:21.596 I'm an expert in baking. 01:52:21.797 --> 01:52:22.817 I can make donuts. 01:52:23.157 --> 01:52:25.237 I can make biscuits. 01:52:25.617 --> 01:52:37.059 I can make croissants, but my bread, when I make my bread and I follow the directions that I was given by my teacher, the bread never works out. 01:52:38.460 --> 01:52:40.220 And I just can't figure out why. 01:52:42.577 --> 01:52:50.103 But when I don't add four cups of salt, the recipe works out a lot better. 01:52:50.143 --> 01:52:55.207 You know, instead, if I just put a teaspoon in, like the old recipe says, then it's fine. 01:52:55.628 --> 01:53:02.433 But if I put in a whole cup and a half of salt, my fricking bread doesn't turn out very good. 01:53:03.674 --> 01:53:04.575 This is a baker. 01:53:07.617 --> 01:53:12.481 She claims to know that baking with only a teaspoon of salt turns out a lot better. 01:53:12.521 --> 01:53:13.402 It's a lot healthier. 01:53:13.762 --> 01:53:21.329 Brian Hooker claims to know that baking with just a teaspoon of salt works out great for bread, but baking with a whole cup of salt can fuck it up. 01:53:23.491 --> 01:53:25.172 But he can't explain that to you. 01:53:28.255 --> 01:53:33.119 He can't tell you that putting a cup of salt in a loaf of bread is not going to work. 01:53:35.302 --> 01:53:54.988 but he claims to be a baker and he claims to be such an expert in baking that he or she in this case can give a bread baking 101 but still can't explain to you why putting too much salt in might screw it up, especially if you put it in, you know, right after or right before you put it in the oven. 01:53:57.031 --> 01:54:05.294 especially if you were to inject salt water into the middle of a loaf of bread right before you put it into the oven, it doesn't really work. 01:54:08.976 --> 01:54:12.417 But see, human biology is very, very similar to that. 01:54:12.477 --> 01:54:23.242 There's some very simple principles, some very simple sort of working assumptions that you could work under and arrive at a very simple explanation for why 01:54:24.628 --> 01:54:26.812 Vaccines are a bad idea. 01:54:28.134 --> 01:54:37.351 And the first thing you need to start out with is the idea that we are using the word vaccine so irresponsibly because it has no definition. 01:54:40.620 --> 01:54:48.989 And these people are very happy to keep doing that, to use a word like vaccines that can mean actually anything. 01:54:49.269 --> 01:54:54.815 It could mean a gelatin patch with little spikes on it that you put on your skin. 01:54:55.988 --> 01:55:02.213 It could mean an electroporated, an electroporated injection of DNA into your skin. 01:55:02.333 --> 01:55:06.315 It could mean an oral liquid that you swallow. 01:55:06.956 --> 01:55:11.059 It could be something that you, that you aerosolized and inhaled. 01:55:11.619 --> 01:55:16.923 And it could also be something that you injected into the skin or into the adipose tissue or into the muscle. 01:55:17.523 --> 01:55:25.349 And all of these things and many different combinations of substances administered in many different places can be described as a vaccine. 01:55:27.458 --> 01:55:35.765 And this is probably one of the most aspecific terms in the English language, and certainly one of the most aspecific terms in medicine. 01:55:35.785 --> 01:55:45.193 And yet these people, attempting to fight a battle against this illusion, continue to use the words of the illusion. 01:55:50.805 --> 01:56:00.914 And without fighting against the words of the illusion, without fighting against the definition of the words in the enchantment, the enchantment is never dispelled. 01:56:00.934 --> 01:56:02.636 The enchantment is only reinforced. 01:56:03.096 --> 01:56:09.442 So all this fancy talk, all this hot air means absolutely jack shit. 01:56:11.223 --> 01:56:17.149 If they've made no progress into distilling this down to a bad idea, which is what it really is. 01:56:20.171 --> 01:56:20.951 and penny, you know? 01:56:21.392 --> 01:56:22.913 It's like, how credible is this? 01:56:23.733 --> 01:56:26.715 And it was just terrible. 01:56:27.155 --> 01:56:30.757 So I thought, well, I better look a little closer, look at some other things. 01:56:31.197 --> 01:56:33.678 I guess I'll look at the Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal. 01:56:33.698 --> 01:56:35.419 Maybe they've got something about vaccines. 01:56:35.880 --> 01:56:41.422 And that's kind of how the, you know, you had like a ball of yarn and you started pulling little threads and you just pulled and pulled and pulled. 01:56:41.943 --> 01:56:48.186 And so that initial investigation, I, you know, at that point in time, they had a lot of services. 01:56:48.226 --> 01:56:49.347 They really don't have them now. 01:56:50.475 --> 01:56:57.961 that you could subscribe to, that because you were a subscriber, you were able to get access to full text articles and things like that. 01:56:58.782 --> 01:57:02.004 And even at that time, when you went to buy an article, it was maybe five or $6. 01:57:02.665 --> 01:57:03.485 And now they're like 57. 01:57:03.786 --> 01:57:10.071 You know, my Baker analogy is actually better because it's not amount of salt, right? 01:57:10.111 --> 01:57:11.692 You know, you need a little salt in bread. 01:57:12.072 --> 01:57:13.673 So we shouldn't have even used that. 01:57:14.734 --> 01:57:18.077 We should have used something else that wouldn't normally be in bread. 01:57:18.510 --> 01:57:21.212 but you want to augment the bread to make the bread turn out better. 01:57:22.173 --> 01:57:23.074 I mean, it's crazy. 01:57:23.134 --> 01:57:29.540 It's really crazy because the most important point there to understand about that analogy is that these are bakers. 01:57:30.300 --> 01:57:31.401 These are doctors. 01:57:32.273 --> 01:57:43.040 So when she says that she's going to put her mind to it and try to figure it out, it should be a doctor, a biologist, a detective, a mechanic that works on the human body. 01:57:43.501 --> 01:57:53.768 And so if a mechanic was going to try and figure out where that weird knocking sound was coming from in your car, a mechanic would have a pretty, pretty steady strategy. 01:57:53.808 --> 01:58:00.292 A good mechanic would have a rank order priority of strategies on what they would check first and second and third. 01:58:03.024 --> 01:58:17.791 So I would expect a professional 15 year experience doctor of the human body to have a pretty good idea of how they would like to prioritize an investigation into how and why vaccines may or may not be as good as everybody says. 01:58:18.271 --> 01:58:20.692 And instead she started with the CDC. 01:58:22.913 --> 01:58:29.096 That's almost like a mechanic who's trying to troubleshoot your car starting out with the, the AAA. 01:58:31.837 --> 01:58:38.139 You know, calling triple A. Like that's really remarkable how shitty your script is. 01:58:38.599 --> 01:58:41.740 And what you really need to see is that this is how exposed they are. 01:58:41.800 --> 01:58:50.822 This is how bad the trap that we are in is because there are enough mouth-breathing social media skillful users that will fall for this. 01:58:52.883 --> 01:58:57.764 Just like she said in that podcast yesterday, these people have like half of America's attention. 01:58:58.587 --> 01:59:02.350 with this nonsense, with this half-truths and lies. 01:59:03.811 --> 01:59:04.571 To like $75. 01:59:05.212 --> 01:59:08.814 And you may buy it, and it may not even be what you're looking for. 01:59:09.415 --> 01:59:11.456 And so these paywalls are just terrible. 01:59:11.816 --> 01:59:15.459 Back at that point in time, it was a little bit easier if you belonged to these services. 01:59:15.599 --> 01:59:22.524 So it was hard for her to figure it out because, you know, it's hard to get some of these papers because they're behind paywalls. 01:59:24.366 --> 01:59:32.993 Wow, I got this book off of eBay and then Mark found a PDF of it and this book just says it plainly, intramuscular injections, a dumb idea from the 1800s. 01:59:35.941 --> 01:59:37.703 to be able to get access to them. 01:59:38.243 --> 01:59:48.572 So at that point in time, from September of 2000, when I started the initial investigation, that grew into 25 years and 50,000 hours worth of investigation. 01:59:49.132 --> 01:59:54.437 And it used to be- 25 years and 50,000 hours. 01:59:54.577 --> 01:59:56.218 Wow, that's a lot of wasted time. 01:59:57.479 --> 01:59:59.501 Because she still hasn't scored the touchdown. 02:00:01.384 --> 02:00:19.146 I feel like I've got to pad myself on the back here because I started out as bad as one could be, as fooled as one could be as an academic and got myself all the way past these people and to the goal in less than six years, less than five years really. 02:00:21.340 --> 02:00:23.822 25 years and 50,000 hours. 02:00:24.242 --> 02:00:25.222 Holy shit. 02:00:25.582 --> 02:00:43.011 That's an obsession of mine that I would be in the office from nine to six and I'd come home and I'd fix a little stir fry for dinner and I'd run upstairs to my upstairs office and I would be looking, going through as much as I could find about each one of the vaccines till two or three o'clock in the morning, seven days a week. 02:00:43.911 --> 02:00:48.472 There were times when I took two to three weeks off from my clinic practice. 02:00:48.953 --> 02:00:59.575 I found a little place on the beach, a little place on the beach in California, in Encinitas, and I'd go out there for three weeks and do nothing for 18 hours a day but research and write about this. 02:01:00.076 --> 02:01:08.718 And I started writing manuals for parents and manuals for doctors, and I was hired by a company called Apex Energetics. 02:01:09.278 --> 02:01:18.121 that they had just come out with a homeopathic line that had to do with prevention and treatment of things like measles and pertussis and that. 02:01:18.541 --> 02:01:29.445 And they hired me, and for two, because Armand, who is the president of Apex Energetics, we got to be pretty good friends, and he really believed in my message, and he hired me for about two weeks. 02:01:29.545 --> 02:01:30.826 What was her message? 02:01:32.017 --> 02:01:33.258 I don't know what her message is. 02:01:33.318 --> 02:01:35.360 She didn't even have a stance on vaccines. 02:01:36.220 --> 02:01:43.166 She did 25 years of research and 50,000 hours of research, and I still don't know what the end result is. 02:01:43.206 --> 02:01:44.207 What's the conclusion? 02:01:45.028 --> 02:01:46.228 That they're lying about stuff? 02:01:47.099 --> 02:01:47.599 I don't get it. 02:01:47.619 --> 02:02:03.945 Two and a half years, that every other weekend I was on the road somewhere giving conferences to chiropractors and acupuncturists and nurse practitioners, a very, very few MDs or DOs that might wander into the mix for two and a half years. 02:02:04.205 --> 02:02:14.229 And so every other weekend I would be speaking to groups of 20 to 50, just planting all those seeds and then also talking about their product lines and stuff like that. 02:02:15.229 --> 02:02:16.290 She was a salesman. 02:02:16.771 --> 02:02:21.535 She was a salesman for a company that benefited from people who didn't want to take vaccines. 02:02:22.135 --> 02:02:24.177 And that's not, that's just the way it is. 02:02:24.357 --> 02:02:26.299 She's not, doesn't have a message. 02:02:26.900 --> 02:02:27.821 What is the message? 02:02:27.881 --> 02:02:29.342 That there are alternatives? 02:02:30.223 --> 02:02:32.044 That not all of them are safe? 02:02:32.144 --> 02:02:33.666 That too many can be bad? 02:02:33.726 --> 02:02:35.527 That you shouldn't give them while they're sick? 02:02:36.929 --> 02:02:38.890 You should let your family doctor do it? 02:02:38.971 --> 02:02:40.252 What is her message? 02:02:41.624 --> 02:02:44.105 And so that's kind of how I got started in doing this. 02:02:44.185 --> 02:02:50.167 And I was, I wrote manuals and I, there wasn't, there wasn't the, um, there weren't sub stacks or anything like that. 02:02:50.207 --> 02:02:53.129 Then there was back in the day when you wrote blogs, you remember that? 02:02:53.609 --> 02:03:00.111 And so we did all, so that, and I put together two really thick, like three inch binders of material. 02:03:00.271 --> 02:03:04.113 I had, I made a lot of DVDs and, um, that was, um, 02:03:04.713 --> 02:03:07.297 DVDs were just getting started after VHS. 02:03:07.337 --> 02:03:08.338 Tells you how old I am, right? 02:03:08.719 --> 02:03:12.845 And that we had DVDs and we sent them all out and we made, we sold them. 02:03:12.885 --> 02:03:15.528 And that was one of the product lines that we were selling. 02:03:16.450 --> 02:03:17.692 And, um, one day, 02:03:19.255 --> 02:03:29.262 I got a letter in the mail from some gentleman who was a retired from the military. 02:03:29.922 --> 02:03:36.127 And he was really, he watched my DVD, it was a three hour DVD called The Risk, The Benefits, and The Choices. 02:03:36.627 --> 02:03:39.389 And I went through all the different vaccines at the time, this would have been 2009. 02:03:42.594 --> 02:03:44.095 two or three, something like that. 02:03:44.635 --> 02:03:47.817 So there are a whole lot more vaccines that are developed since then. 02:03:48.237 --> 02:03:56.401 So I went through this whole thing and he wrote me a letter and he said, would you mind if I made copies of your DVD and handed them out? 02:03:57.041 --> 02:03:59.783 And I said, well, I do mind because we sell them. 02:04:01.223 --> 02:04:03.925 And he said, well, I found it on Google videos. 02:04:05.265 --> 02:04:08.547 Don't make copies of my video because I make money from it. 02:04:08.607 --> 02:04:10.388 I wouldn't want to save kids for free. 02:04:12.287 --> 02:04:16.672 So I went out and looked at Google videos, and it had 57,000 views. 02:04:17.833 --> 02:04:20.896 I thought, oh, if I'd had a dollar for each one of those. 02:04:20.976 --> 02:04:22.738 Yeah, like I'm doing this as a vocation here. 02:04:22.758 --> 02:04:24.059 I'm spending my blood sweat and tears. 02:04:24.079 --> 02:04:28.424 Because I had to rent out studios and all those recording things and stuff like that. 02:04:28.804 --> 02:04:28.984 Wow. 02:04:29.204 --> 02:04:29.265 Wow. 02:04:31.707 --> 02:04:32.827 Oh, that's awesome. 02:04:32.867 --> 02:04:36.288 How more and more and more information started to get out there. 02:04:36.848 --> 02:04:41.009 And now 25 years in September, it'll be 25 years since I've been doing this. 02:04:41.209 --> 02:04:41.569 Wow. 02:04:41.729 --> 02:04:53.231 And I still, that's my whole life, you know, because it started, you know, it's like, if I'm not sleeping, I'm generally eating, writing, talking, investigating, researching something about vaccines. 02:04:53.711 --> 02:04:56.852 And I really have stuck with it because it's what God told me to do. 02:04:57.512 --> 02:05:01.776 You know, in 2002, I was sitting upstairs in my upstairs office. 02:05:02.556 --> 02:05:04.558 It was probably two o'clock in the morning. 02:05:04.578 --> 02:05:10.403 I remember I was sitting, my desk sat this way, and there was a window that looked out across the street. 02:05:10.863 --> 02:05:14.906 And it was snowing, like a little Rockwell moment out there, you know, coming down the street. 02:05:15.647 --> 02:05:20.931 And I was looking at information from the CDC's pink book about pertussis. 02:05:21.992 --> 02:05:24.775 And this was like the sixth version. 02:05:24.795 --> 02:05:26.276 There's now like 20 versions. 02:05:26.556 --> 02:05:28.418 And you can't even find the sixth version anymore. 02:05:28.999 --> 02:05:45.914 But it said, because people believe that there's a problem with vaccines and there's no syndromes of vaccines, and I'm paraphrasing, they said when a child has a seizure disorder, myoclonic jerks or dies of SIDS, 02:05:46.855 --> 02:05:51.002 Parents will blame vaccines, but it was really nothing to do with the vaccine. 02:05:51.062 --> 02:05:53.406 It had to do with the defective child. 02:05:54.725 --> 02:05:58.166 And I just sat there, just froze. 02:05:58.946 --> 02:06:04.087 And I just started sobbing, because I realized that that's truly what they teach physicians. 02:06:04.607 --> 02:06:08.948 It's not about all the garbage that's being injected into these little human beings. 02:06:09.428 --> 02:06:15.149 It's about the defective child that can't stand up from the assault of all this poison. 02:06:15.829 --> 02:06:18.070 And I was just sobbing. 02:06:18.570 --> 02:06:20.630 And I just said, Lord, why'd you give me this to do? 02:06:20.690 --> 02:06:23.331 Why didn't you give me Tony Robbins go team rah-rah? 02:06:24.071 --> 02:06:25.692 I mean, why did you give me this to do? 02:06:25.732 --> 02:06:26.992 And I'm just crying and crying. 02:06:27.012 --> 02:06:35.056 And I heard him say, I heard a voice out loud and I was the only person in the house out loud say, because you're willing to do the work. 02:06:35.076 --> 02:06:42.600 And it's like, I sat there for a second and I kind of looked around and I thought, well, I guess that's what I'm supposed to do. 02:06:43.280 --> 02:06:43.520 Okay. 02:06:43.580 --> 02:06:44.021 I'm sorry. 02:06:44.041 --> 02:06:50.804 Um, I've been praying since I was a little boy. 02:06:52.082 --> 02:06:53.022 I've never heard a voice. 02:06:53.102 --> 02:06:54.103 I've never got an answer. 02:06:56.404 --> 02:07:06.727 And anybody that claims to have gotten an answer in a voice that they could hear needs to be one of the humblest people on earth and better have changed everything. 02:07:06.747 --> 02:07:15.011 You know, like, like what Alex said, when he, he heard this analogy about the dolphins and it totally changed his paradigm. 02:07:15.531 --> 02:07:21.333 If I heard a voice and I attributed it to not to somebody in my head, but to God, 02:07:24.389 --> 02:07:33.179 If I heard a voice that I attributed to my Lord and Savior in heaven, my whole life would change forever. 02:07:36.823 --> 02:07:45.193 And this woman is telling a story about hearing a voice that she's sure is God, and it hardly even broke her step. 02:07:49.821 --> 02:07:59.366 If you hear a voice that you attribute to your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, and it doesn't change everything about your life, you might be a liar. 02:08:02.408 --> 02:08:04.389 So I've never really stopped. 02:08:04.689 --> 02:08:08.492 And for the first three years, I was really angry. 02:08:09.052 --> 02:08:16.756 I was just, and the first three years I could say, I kept trying to find the house, out loud say, because you're willing to do the work. 02:08:17.657 --> 02:08:17.997 And it's like, 02:08:19.298 --> 02:08:24.283 I sat there for a second and I kind of looked around and I thought, well, I guess that's what I'm supposed to do. 02:08:25.064 --> 02:08:27.046 So I've never really stopped. 02:08:27.347 --> 02:08:31.131 And, and for the first three years, I was really angry. 02:08:31.151 --> 02:08:33.153 I was just, and the first, 02:08:33.573 --> 02:08:36.435 For the first three years, she was really angry. 02:08:36.555 --> 02:08:36.955 I don't know. 02:08:37.596 --> 02:08:45.821 After praying your whole life and finally getting an answer in the form of verbal communication, I would have thought you'd felt pretty blessed for the rest of your life. 02:08:46.361 --> 02:08:53.406 I thought it would have changed everything about who you were because you'd finally have the confidence to know that you were backed up by the divine. 02:08:53.746 --> 02:08:59.430 You would feel like a ghost, like a blues brother all by yourself on a mission from God. 02:09:01.032 --> 02:09:03.294 but it doesn't really seem to have changed her very much. 02:09:09.820 --> 02:09:16.246 First three years, I could say, I kept trying to find the paper, the statement, the something of why we did this. 02:09:17.227 --> 02:09:19.108 Why are we injecting all this stuff into kids? 02:09:19.529 --> 02:09:22.611 Because we're so afraid of the measles or mumps. 02:09:22.972 --> 02:09:25.594 I mean, come on, a chicken pox, really? 02:09:25.614 --> 02:09:27.135 And so I, you know, 02:09:28.802 --> 02:09:36.329 I have a friend who's kind of come over and visit because I'm still alone and I actually have friends on this earth So I'm gonna cut this a little short. 02:09:36.429 --> 02:09:41.774 I apologize ladies and gentlemen That should be over here. 02:09:42.094 --> 02:09:43.355 No, this should be over here. 02:09:43.495 --> 02:09:49.060 And then this should be over here and then that should be there There was an anticipated rise in all-cause mortality I 02:09:51.341 --> 02:09:55.223 And people like Shannon Joy are clowns. 02:09:55.303 --> 02:09:59.905 People like Mary Holland are probably military scripted traitors. 02:10:00.705 --> 02:10:09.249 She has probably been scripted by the US military or some branch of DOD or DITRA since she started out opposite Paul Offit in 2015. 02:10:09.290 --> 02:10:15.492 I think most of the people that worked at CHD minus Laura Bono were probably working for the military. 02:10:16.033 --> 02:10:20.395 Maybe many of them are actually connected to the private security company run by Gavin DeBecker, 02:10:21.475 --> 02:10:42.538 One of the things that I was trying to say earlier that still strikes me as pretty odd is that after Mary Holland left the campaign and came back to CHD in order to eventually be there to fire me, Bobby went around the United States complaining to everybody that the Biden administration wouldn't give him Secret Service protection. 02:10:43.462 --> 02:10:58.687 But Bobby had secret service protection for all of the time that he was at the head of CHD, almost like they were already protecting him like a future presidential candidate before he was ever even declared running for anything. 02:10:59.547 --> 02:11:12.772 He's had a private security detail since around the time that they wrote the book in 2008, where they said that he would run as vice president and then get taken by one of the two parties from an independent candidate to a vice presidential candidate. 02:11:15.017 --> 02:11:19.139 And yet he still raised money after Trump was elected. 02:11:19.199 --> 02:11:28.523 And after he was appointed to HHS, he raised money for the private security that he had to pay for during the fricking campaign. 02:11:31.044 --> 02:11:41.768 Bobby Kennedy is a scripted punk and he is probably being run by a military group inside of CHD and inside of Gavin DeBecker associates. 02:11:44.127 --> 02:11:45.728 And that's how this was done. 02:11:46.108 --> 02:11:52.673 CHD, ICANN, and the rest of these things are all spinoffs from the same basic core group. 02:11:53.633 --> 02:12:06.982 Mary Holland, Merrill Nass, Robert Malone, Brian Hooker, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and all the people that imagined that that core group would save the world right after they killed Brandy Vaughn and Tony Barker. 02:12:08.632 --> 02:12:15.177 These people all knew or don't know that there was an anticipated rise in all cause mortality until I told them. 02:12:15.618 --> 02:12:18.440 But I told them that this was sculpted using murder and lies. 02:12:18.520 --> 02:12:22.403 I told them that Denny Rancor was put in place to obfuscate that. 02:12:22.523 --> 02:12:26.186 I told them that Robert Malone was on this script with all of these people. 02:12:26.206 --> 02:12:29.389 And the reason why they ignored me is because they're on the script too. 02:12:30.390 --> 02:12:36.455 Because Skyhorse Publishing, Robert Malone, Meryl Nass, and CHD are the heart of the script. 02:12:37.537 --> 02:12:55.392 that will forever ignore the lack of antibiotic use, will forever ignore the impact on life expectancy from the opioid pandemic, and will forever, ever, ever ignore the illusion of virology, the illusion of endemicity. 02:12:56.707 --> 02:13:06.096 the illusion of the placebo effect versus using a placebo to greatly reduce the damage done by intramuscular injection. 02:13:06.236 --> 02:13:21.710 I'm starting to think that the placebo effect is a sort of exaggerated myth as well, which is to make sure that you don't think of the possibility that they have been using placebos across the schedule in order to get to where they are now, where 02:13:22.450 --> 02:13:34.155 We are willing to absolutely argue with our children that it's okay that we could give all of the vaccines from the entire schedule in one go, according to Paul Offit. 02:13:36.465 --> 02:13:43.893 And of course, nobody's ever going to talk about PCR because PCR is the remnant stream that they created and have maintained for the entire duration of the pandemic. 02:13:44.414 --> 02:13:46.076 Ladies and gentlemen, this is for all the marbles. 02:13:46.196 --> 02:13:55.366 I'm going to have a beer and rest my voice, which probably needed more rest than I gave it today. 02:13:56.886 --> 02:13:59.148 These are the traders, ladies and gentlemen. 02:13:59.488 --> 02:14:04.033 This event in Bucharest, Romania was probably the most revealing event in the last five years. 02:14:05.073 --> 02:14:06.795 This paper is also pretty revealing. 02:14:07.976 --> 02:14:12.660 And my stream and my track record over the last six years is also pretty revealing. 02:14:13.201 --> 02:14:14.602 And I'm extremely proud of it. 02:14:16.118 --> 02:14:16.899 Thanks for being here. 02:14:17.420 --> 02:14:24.068 Thanks for understanding that it's gonna take a lot of repetition to get this done, but at least we know what we're repeating. 02:14:24.668 --> 02:14:25.709 Thanks very much for being here. 02:14:25.730 --> 02:14:26.631 See you again tomorrow. 02:14:50.345 --> 02:14:57.048 Ladies and gentlemen, the voice that you've been listening to is that of Jonathan Cooey, Chief Biologist of GigaOM Biological out of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 02:14:57.088 --> 02:15:03.411 You can research his past work by looking up CooeyJJ on the National Library of Medicine PubMed website. 02:15:03.792 --> 02:15:13.596 You can also buy the book, Wuhan Cover-Up, support the wonderful, traitorous organization, Children Health Defense, and also get a copy of this historical book where Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 02:15:13.836 --> 02:15:14.617 unwittingly 02:15:15.758 --> 02:15:18.340 Forever put Jonathan Cooey into history. 02:15:19.101 --> 02:15:20.162 There's my taco buddy. 02:15:20.582 --> 02:15:24.766 That's my broken science friend Jay Bhattacharya. 02:15:24.846 --> 02:15:28.630 I've got a website that I'm streaming from a couple different ones. 02:15:28.750 --> 02:15:30.832 Stream.GigaOM.bio is the real big one. 02:15:31.232 --> 02:15:36.817 If you want to find your way around go to GigaOMBiological.com and share that stream because sharing is how this works. 02:15:37.698 --> 02:15:39.579 If you want to help me out, that's the best way to do it. 02:15:39.639 --> 02:15:40.639 Please, please share. 02:15:41.159 --> 02:15:49.582 And if you really are generous enough to try and support my family, even with $10 a month, please go to gigohomebiological.com and find a way to do it. 02:15:49.722 --> 02:15:53.703 At there, you can also find all the links that you need to share everything, including stuff. 02:15:53.743 --> 02:16:01.826 If you go to stuff tomorrow, there will be probably three new PDFs and we'll start going over the first one, hopefully tomorrow. 02:16:02.266 --> 02:16:03.366 Thanks very much for being here. 02:16:04.527 --> 02:16:05.167 See you again soon.