WEBVTT 00:08.723 --> 00:08.823 you 00:40.093 --> 00:42.396 Left-handed monkey wrench is starting to get rich. 01:44.059 --> 01:44.999 They say why. 01:47.140 --> 01:54.322 Why they want to terminate my command. 01:54.342 --> 02:12.226 I was sent on a classified mission, sir. 02:16.778 --> 02:18.158 no longer classified. 02:27.441 --> 02:28.161 Did they tell you? 02:31.862 --> 02:37.964 They told me that you had gone totally insane. 02:41.285 --> 02:45.346 And that your methods were 02:46.917 --> 02:47.437 Unsound. 02:51.478 --> 02:52.878 Are my methods unsound? 02:59.580 --> 03:02.501 I don't see any method. 03:04.801 --> 03:07.982 At all, sir. 03:11.983 --> 03:13.183 I expect... 03:19.591 --> 03:20.692 What did you expect? 03:29.258 --> 03:30.338 Are you an assassin? 03:35.782 --> 03:36.543 I'm a soldier. 03:40.686 --> 03:41.366 You're neither. 03:44.408 --> 03:45.489 You're an errand boy. 04:05.131 --> 04:09.954 Thank you very much for the compliments and thank you very much for sharing. 04:11.635 --> 04:15.217 Thanks to Mark for helping share it. 04:15.997 --> 04:19.179 Yeah, I humbly request that others share it as well. 04:19.599 --> 04:23.841 It is one of the better overall presentations I've ever done. 04:23.902 --> 04:24.822 It's not perfect. 04:25.322 --> 04:27.524 I tried to make clear that yesterday. 04:28.344 --> 04:29.665 There were a couple of things that needed 04:30.265 --> 04:50.079 Correction, but overall on review it isn't that bad and if that's the first time that I've been on stage and in front of that many people Then the next time that I do a similar presentation with a little more tweaks In front of more people it pretty much seems like they're not gonna have they're gonna have to avoid that happening So thanks for sharing it 04:51.133 --> 04:52.313 Um, and thanks for the compliments. 04:52.373 --> 04:52.994 I appreciate it. 04:53.054 --> 04:57.335 I am going to try and put it up on sub stack as a, a text. 04:58.395 --> 05:01.015 Um, and, uh, maybe somebody has already done that. 05:01.075 --> 05:01.416 I don't know. 05:01.796 --> 05:06.617 Um, but, uh, yeah, I, I actually tried to think of it as kind of a Ted talk. 05:06.997 --> 05:11.658 Uh, not that I changed very much about how I normally do things, but, um, 05:12.645 --> 05:14.925 Yeah, it was definitely a little bit different slide deck. 05:14.945 --> 05:17.226 You know, I used the slide deck as a different thing. 05:17.246 --> 05:26.968 I had some advice from a very good friend that in a situation like this, you should always remember that you are the talk, not the slides. 05:27.448 --> 05:33.089 And that changed my attitude quite a bit because, as you know, I like to use my slides on my show. 05:33.329 --> 05:38.190 And so that friend's advice was very, very spot on. 05:40.578 --> 05:53.765 Yeah, maybe I'll get to speak at the Brownstone event on the other side of the street on a table that says, ha ha, Brownstone is a controlled op, prove me wrong, ha ha, I'll probably be sitting with you then, Mark, at the same table. 05:54.065 --> 06:01.990 Anyway, and that's pretty good timing for the little plug here, so don't forget about Mark. 06:10.999 --> 06:12.159 Annie, you're terribly late. 06:14.620 --> 06:19.061 I'm afraid that the latest data tells us... I'm going to have to mark it in my book, unfortunately. 06:19.081 --> 06:20.941 I'm afraid... I'm going to have to mark it in my book. 06:20.981 --> 06:23.462 ...tells us that we're dealing with essentially a worst-case scenario. 06:25.362 --> 06:26.923 I think truth is good for kids. 06:27.343 --> 06:31.164 We're so busy lying, we don't even recognize the truth no more in society. 06:31.644 --> 06:33.284 We want everybody to feel good. 06:34.205 --> 06:35.585 That's not the way life is. 06:38.137 --> 06:42.059 But you can tell if someone's lying, you know, you can sort of feel it in people. 06:43.840 --> 06:44.561 And I have lied. 06:44.581 --> 06:45.621 I'm sure I'll lie again. 06:45.641 --> 06:46.562 I don't want to lie. 06:47.062 --> 06:48.403 You know, I don't think I'm a liar. 06:48.503 --> 06:49.543 I try not to be a liar. 06:49.563 --> 06:50.424 I don't want to be a liar. 06:50.984 --> 06:53.705 I think it's like really important not to be a liar. 06:57.503 --> 07:16.006 Jonathan, who's going to talk about his latest distillation of what the pandemic means to society, to biology, to science, and to democracy, and to the whole kind of idea of empiricism and integrity. 07:16.026 --> 07:25.608 And then each of us, this incredible preeminent panel that we have, each one of you is going to get a chance to comment 07:29.465 --> 07:42.348 It doesn't matter much at all what you believe about vaccines until we invent really important ones, until we have a pandemic that's killing everyone, and it's measles plus. 07:42.468 --> 07:47.969 Okay, I can tolerate what you think about measles because not that many people die from it. 07:48.269 --> 07:50.209 It's just a big hassle in the end. 07:53.376 --> 08:07.084 When we have this new pandemic that is, you know, got 75% mortality, it's not, it's, there'll be no pretense of being polite in the face of these things. 08:07.184 --> 08:09.146 It'll be a moral emergency because it has to be. 08:16.003 --> 08:16.323 The 08:53.929 --> 08:58.994 I have to admit the the Mister Rogers theme is my favorite part, but I do love that bird too. 09:10.174 --> 09:19.026 Well, the Brownstone organization gives away fellowships, and one of the fellowships they gave away to is Brett Weinstein, like he needs more money. 09:19.907 --> 09:26.156 So it's, you know, it seems to be rich people and rich piles of money giving money to other piles of money. 09:26.716 --> 09:32.423 and redistributing it among these people who don't really seem to be able to score any meaningful goals. 09:32.543 --> 09:34.526 That's how I see it. 09:34.646 --> 09:39.612 I know I'm a little bit over the top with that kind of thing, but it doesn't feel very good. 09:40.292 --> 09:44.397 Otherwise, I'm not really sure how it is that they missed me. 09:44.577 --> 09:45.218 But anyway, 09:46.379 --> 09:51.805 Yeah, it's a matter of what's perceived to be true and a lot of people see Brownstone as being pretty cool. 09:52.606 --> 09:55.588 I heard someone else in the chat type clownstone. 09:55.608 --> 09:57.951 I don't know, we'll see. 09:58.531 --> 10:05.538 I'm gonna do everything I can to make them refund my little invitation or whatever, you know, that I paid for. 10:05.558 --> 10:08.021 And we'll see what happens. 10:09.702 --> 10:11.743 If they do that, then we'll kind of know already. 10:11.783 --> 10:18.846 And then, as I alluded to, I might be across the street at a table that says, uh, Brownstone is a controlled op. 10:18.866 --> 10:21.407 Prove me wrong and make a few videos from there. 10:24.158 --> 10:29.801 These questions still aren't being discussed, answered, or meaningfully chatted about. 10:29.981 --> 10:38.965 And so we've just got to keep pushing because at this stage, I think you can see it's become very clear that they can only attribute bad motives to me and others. 10:40.546 --> 10:41.587 It's not really a... 10:42.347 --> 10:55.081 a real discussion anymore and in fact even both sides of the discussion are basically puppeteer puppeted people many times who have previously been on stage together so it's quite a 10:56.596 --> 11:13.801 It's quite a goofy place we're in, and it's a goofy place compounded by the fact that, you know, they have weaponized piles of money plus the overarching control over wealth and money and power in a way that, quite frankly, I don't think any of us are really fully aware of. 11:15.700 --> 11:36.366 And so even if I could get somebody like David Webb on my show, hint hint, even if I could get somebody like David Webb on my show, hint hint, I don't know that we're still going to get anything meaningfully across the finish line until more and more people see and don't need to be shown every little thing. 11:40.700 --> 11:45.363 It's pretty obvious to me, though, that they've been telling the same kind of story for a pretty long time. 11:45.483 --> 11:57.770 You know, if we just had enough computers, or if the computer chips were just a little bit better, the next generation of technologies combined with the next generation, just over the hill, we're going to be able to solve all these problems that 11:58.450 --> 12:06.695 we previously used to refer to as the sacred biology, or the irreducible complexity, or just stuff we know we're never going to figure out. 12:06.815 --> 12:19.723 And humbly admit it, and still also take pleasure in the fact that there's plenty to learn, there's plenty to understand, and there's plenty of ways that we can optimize our relationship with Mother Nature. 12:19.783 --> 12:20.624 But instead, you know, 12:23.291 --> 12:30.096 We've got a limited time to learn how our history and stories and mythology were used against us. 12:30.857 --> 12:44.447 And so it would be great if you would share the work of Mark Kulak, Housatonic Live, and if you would, you know, get the word out about his website, maybe even start mirroring it or attempting to help 12:45.408 --> 13:06.468 um in any way shape or form get those those big messages out maybe make a a mirror site that rearranges it to tell the story that you think's most importantly captured by his work because quite frankly one of the things that's so cool about mark's work is there's a lot of stuff captured there that doesn't necessarily all weave together in very obvious ways and so there's probably three or four books 13:07.068 --> 13:12.312 the different, you know, endeavorous people could pull out of his work. 13:12.372 --> 13:24.280 And so it's extraordinary how many of these people pretend that he doesn't exist, just like they pretend that I don't exist or that I'm just some, you know, I guess, deep state guy. 13:26.541 --> 13:32.745 I want to make gentle the life of this world, and I want to break the illusion that these people have created. 13:34.546 --> 13:36.388 In part, I'm very 13:37.796 --> 13:48.162 I'm very afraid to say they are even twisting the legacy of some of what should be the greatest examples of Americans in American history. 13:48.202 --> 13:57.468 And that's what I find most disturbing at this stage, that they have gotten us so far that our children are turning on their fathers. 13:59.403 --> 14:00.504 It's terrifying to me. 14:01.305 --> 14:14.436 And that deception and that cooperation in this lie is what is represented here by this artificial wave that's going away from the shallow water and that this boy is learning to surf on. 14:14.697 --> 14:17.179 I'm not saying that we don't need to teach our kids to surf. 14:17.219 --> 14:17.559 We do. 14:18.180 --> 14:21.062 We need to learn to surf on this artificial wave of liars. 14:22.343 --> 14:27.667 And then realize that once we get into the real world, it's not going to get any better because people have always done this. 14:27.787 --> 14:29.068 They've always cooperated. 14:29.108 --> 14:30.689 They've always lied in groups. 14:31.489 --> 14:38.093 But this is just on a scale and with technology and the amount of wealth that it's never been executed with before. 14:38.133 --> 14:39.034 And that's the problem. 14:41.104 --> 14:42.104 That's really the problem. 14:42.344 --> 14:48.466 So we have to stay focused on the biology that we can learn and try to identify the principles that we can agree on. 14:48.506 --> 14:51.367 We have to never take the bait on social media. 14:51.387 --> 15:01.551 In fact, I think social media is starting to become something that may no longer be useful even as a communication thing where you just communicate with people that you know. 15:01.611 --> 15:05.012 You're still giving away your information to the owners of those platforms. 15:05.992 --> 15:07.753 It may be time to go back to email. 15:08.774 --> 15:17.932 It may be time to go back to very basic things where you really love your neighbor by personally interacting with them quote-unquote via email. 15:22.389 --> 15:25.571 So yeah, sharing the work is the way it works right now. 15:25.611 --> 15:26.652 That's what I need the most. 15:26.712 --> 15:31.935 I know that I also need people to sign up, and I need people to donate, and that's all great. 15:32.035 --> 15:38.319 But right now, I think the message is good enough that just sharing the work is enough. 15:39.000 --> 15:40.020 Even some of you people... 15:42.456 --> 15:44.418 you know, some of you people that have given a lot. 15:44.538 --> 15:47.119 I mean, I'm so grateful. 15:48.981 --> 15:53.504 But man, oh man, the little donations are where it's at, right? 15:53.544 --> 16:03.131 I mean, if we're going to be unstoppable, it's not going to be because Greg and Steven and William and a few others 16:04.011 --> 16:06.193 that it's not going to be because of them. 16:06.573 --> 16:20.044 And I want it to be because of thousands of little people so that, you know, maybe I'll have, my family will have enough money to support other people and bring other people on board this independent bright web. 16:21.165 --> 16:24.687 so that we can start dropping hands all around the world, which would be pretty cool. 16:25.867 --> 16:31.470 But again, I got to admit, I'm pretty focused on America right now because I think we're all in our separate traps. 16:32.230 --> 16:36.892 And if we're going to engage in united non-compliance, we've got to understand the individual traps we're in. 16:36.912 --> 16:40.434 And because the laws in Australia are different, the laws in Canada are different, 16:40.954 --> 16:57.075 the laws in the EU are different, the laws in America are different, we are all in our different traps and so engaging in informed non-compliance is going to be specific to those traps and so although I want to cooperate with the big picture around the world, it's important to realize that Americans need to save America. 16:57.536 --> 16:58.457 Let's do this! 17:06.152 --> 17:06.252 so 17:26.903 --> 17:32.611 Boy, I gotta admit, I don't think that's very, whoops, very surprising to me, Soothspider. 17:33.652 --> 17:40.201 Children and parents lying together is the way that lots of crimes are committed in the world. 17:40.842 --> 17:44.326 It's an extraordinarily powerful illusion indeed. 17:45.919 --> 17:50.868 Anyway, it is the 19th of June 2024. 17:51.990 --> 17:54.314 We are still got so much work to do. 17:54.875 --> 17:57.440 As you know, I am a human just like 17:58.444 --> 18:00.685 Just like you, I'm here. 18:01.185 --> 18:06.528 My kids are outside in the 90 plus weather in a pool about this big in the driveway. 18:06.708 --> 18:09.029 And mom is up on the other side in the shade. 18:09.769 --> 18:13.011 And we are enjoying summer vacation, that's for sure. 18:13.571 --> 18:15.172 However, we do have a lot of work to do. 18:15.652 --> 18:17.373 And so I'm gonna try and get some done today. 18:17.573 --> 18:20.074 And then I'm gonna try and give my kids a little bit of time. 18:21.814 --> 18:24.195 And so we are still doing this. 18:24.636 --> 18:26.196 I did this at the Red Pill Expo. 18:26.976 --> 18:32.118 Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system remains dumb. 18:32.639 --> 18:36.820 Transfection in healthy humans was always criminally negligent and RNA cannot pandemic. 18:36.840 --> 18:37.961 There are other ways to say it. 18:38.761 --> 18:43.283 Weaponized piles of money murdered people and convinced people to argue about it being a lab leak. 18:43.823 --> 18:47.324 The old vaccine schedule is injuring and killing thousands every year. 18:47.744 --> 18:51.246 And we do not need to fear free-range RNA molecules. 18:51.306 --> 18:53.747 I'd love to hear other twists on these variables. 18:54.967 --> 18:58.108 And in that sense, this is what we're going to watch in a minute. 18:58.568 --> 19:03.230 But I'm going to try and give just a little bit more of an intro to that. 19:04.411 --> 19:05.711 Let me see if I got this right. 19:05.731 --> 19:06.431 This is this one. 19:06.451 --> 19:06.751 Yeah. 19:07.072 --> 19:08.732 And then I start here, I think. 19:09.132 --> 19:10.693 Slideshow, current slide. 19:12.321 --> 19:13.481 Yeah. 19:13.521 --> 19:17.843 So there are a few things more dishonorable than misleading the young. 19:18.163 --> 19:20.224 A quote from Thomas Sowell. 19:21.244 --> 19:29.007 I do think that in order to understand the trap that we're in, especially in America, we need to understand that social media is aimed at the West. 19:29.847 --> 19:34.069 I understand that the whole world participates in it, but it's really aimed at the West. 19:34.149 --> 19:36.710 It's aimed specifically at America, unfortunately. 19:37.450 --> 19:41.393 And that's why a lot of these people outlined in purple are actually foreigners. 19:41.433 --> 19:42.814 I'm not saying they're all bad. 19:43.295 --> 19:54.683 I'm just saying that, especially on the red t-shirt side, you're going to see an extraordinary number of people that could be accurately described as foreigners that are interlaced with these 19:56.943 --> 19:59.806 these meddlers that I've identified personally. 20:00.626 --> 20:02.828 I've arranged them in a little bit different groups. 20:02.868 --> 20:09.194 I'm going to get rid of the effects for a little bit so you can see this clearly and get my mouse up on the top here. 20:10.475 --> 20:12.797 I've arranged them into the TV group over here. 20:12.837 --> 20:20.704 You know, this is Bedford and Anderson and Liana Nguyen and those two clowns from YouTube and that Dutch 20:21.405 --> 20:26.568 that Dutch lady and Burks and then Fauci at the bottom over here. 20:27.028 --> 20:34.631 And then I've arranged this group of people that I would all, I think it's pretty safe to say to basically group them together. 20:35.632 --> 20:39.474 They've all kind of decided that Bobby is the default best candidate. 20:40.334 --> 20:45.519 They've all come and gone from various circles to do with Steve Kirsch and Robert Malone. 20:45.539 --> 20:47.141 They've all been able to promote him. 20:47.841 --> 20:49.383 They all have some ties to him. 20:49.423 --> 20:54.047 Maybe they've been at one time on stage with him and are now his worst enemy. 20:55.028 --> 20:56.990 But it's a, what is, who's that right there? 20:59.352 --> 21:00.172 I don't know who that is. 21:00.232 --> 21:00.533 Hold on. 21:00.553 --> 21:01.694 I might've buried somebody. 21:01.754 --> 21:02.034 Whoops. 21:02.234 --> 21:02.755 Gotta go back. 21:05.080 --> 21:08.181 I'm just gonna escape for a second and see if I buried somebody back there. 21:08.301 --> 21:10.521 Oh no, that's the other side of Robert Malone's picture. 21:10.541 --> 21:12.881 Okay, so that was good. 21:13.261 --> 21:19.302 I was looking at this little tiny gap right there and thinking that that was another picture, but that's actually just the bottom of this guy's picture. 21:19.342 --> 21:22.323 So I should fix that a little bit really, cause that's annoying. 21:22.623 --> 21:23.963 It should be like that maybe. 21:24.143 --> 21:24.523 There we go. 21:25.063 --> 21:30.844 Okay, so anyway, I think it's really important to see the pattern here. 21:31.505 --> 21:33.065 And I think it's really important to add, 21:35.097 --> 21:37.778 adequately explain what I mean by the rest of this diagram. 21:38.578 --> 21:41.399 I don't know any of these people, okay? 21:41.419 --> 21:43.240 I've never really met any of them. 21:43.260 --> 21:49.182 I actually ran into Andy Kaufman in the airport, and I asked him what he was up to. 21:49.442 --> 21:52.943 He pretended he didn't know my name, but then he realized my name was JJ. 21:54.423 --> 21:58.445 And I asked him what he was up to, and he said he didn't know what I was talking about, so I walked away from him. 22:00.105 --> 22:03.807 But yeah, he was at the same conference that I was. 22:04.587 --> 22:09.409 It didn't seem like that he really wanted to, you know, be there and interact with a lot of people. 22:09.469 --> 22:16.552 He kind of came and went a lot like David Artis did, but I guess Dave, or Brian Artis was having a kid or something, so he had an excuse to come and go. 22:17.452 --> 22:26.076 But there were other people that were there all weekend, and it seemed very genuine, and I thought it was a really wonderful place to be for me personally, just to 22:26.912 --> 22:30.693 just to be able to have enough time to talk to all the people that wanted to talk to me. 22:31.334 --> 22:43.518 At one point in the morning on Sunday, I held a coffee in my hand until it got cold and then I dumped it out and warmed it up again and then held it in my hand until it got cold, just talking to person after person after person. 22:43.538 --> 22:45.399 So it was a really nice conference. 22:45.939 --> 23:13.252 But unlike something like the Red Pill or even a CHD conference, most of these people I have never actually met in person, but a lot of them have been on my stream or in a signal chat or in a private Zoom group called the Steve Kirsch Steering Committee or any one of the other nonsense little groups where these people kind of siphon the controlled narrative away from the people who are driving it and make sure that 23:13.912 --> 23:19.337 There's no real useful progress made until it's useful for this narrative. 23:19.377 --> 23:23.360 And that's why these people are very specific about not talking about 2020 and really 2021. 23:25.680 --> 23:35.065 Because in 2020 and 2021 is when, I can barely say it, when this car really started to go off the rails, where the narrative started to go off the rails. 23:35.125 --> 23:45.591 So they would really like you to just pick up the story around the end of 2021, maybe even the beginning of 2022, and think of that as the time when everybody should have spoken up. 23:45.631 --> 23:47.292 Because before that, we didn't know what to do. 23:47.932 --> 23:54.697 Before that, we were all just bamboozled by the combination of the arguing and whatever, you know, they've all agreed on that. 23:54.757 --> 23:58.580 And that's really what we mean by running out the clock. 23:59.321 --> 24:11.731 Part of the Scooby-Doo Mysteries whole purpose was to extend this time at which they could announce the emergency and announce the various countermeasures. 24:12.523 --> 24:39.034 And so I think Mark Kulak and others, I don't know if there's anybody else actually that's proposed this, has said that warp speed was not really how it was supposed to go because there was supposed to be a longer time before the rollout of the vaccine, presumably to give them more time to use all sorts of different means to increase all cause mortality, including opiates, including supplementary oxygen and any other things like maybe ivermectin 24:39.914 --> 24:50.340 or even ivermectin that's not ivermectin, for example, because one of the things that was going around early in 2020, for example, was that some of the ivermectin pills weren't even any good. 24:52.981 --> 24:56.324 I don't know if you guys can remember that, but man, oh man, I can remember all this stuff. 24:56.364 --> 25:04.332 And so what I'm worried about with the guys up there in the corner are that one or more of them has absorbed the other ones. 25:04.572 --> 25:16.944 For example, I am still not afraid to say that most or all of what is covered in the Farewell to Virology document and how it's covered is pretty darn spot on. 25:17.705 --> 25:39.956 And I tried to bring Mark Bailey and them together with CHD to understand how synthetic DNA and RNA used to transfect cell culture or animals could be the sort of, you know, simple solution behind the magic trick that you think is them cutting an animal in half and, you know, finding the viruses inside. 25:42.455 --> 25:59.256 And so if we have really gotten to the stage where we can really succinctly describe what virology is and what virology isn't, and specifically say that you can't make your cells do something that they don't already do, and that means that this genetic signaling is pretty ubiquitous. 26:01.519 --> 26:13.819 and that it's very easily hijackable, not by special pattern integrities that we have to fight against for millennium, but it's very easily hijackable by synthetic DNA and RNA. 26:16.004 --> 26:32.971 And so I wanted to just point out here very quickly to remind you that if you haven't seen that CHD thing that I play in the beginning there where Bobby's up there and Meryl's over here and Malone's there and Tess Laurie's there and Jessica Rose is over there and I'm in the middle bottom. 26:35.253 --> 26:46.660 You should watch it because there in that video, I made a choice to say something at the end in the summary of my seven minute talk that I almost should have just flipped a coin. 26:46.700 --> 27:03.730 But instead of saying an infectious clone of the entire genome of SARS-CoV-2 could have been planted so that we would get full sequences wherever we wanted to find them and whatever patients we wanted to find them, I said that we could have transfected people with an immunogen. 27:04.884 --> 27:26.221 a spike protein and caused acute respiratory illness, caused PCR positivity to that novel spike protein, made available that sequence of the SARS spike protein, but never let go a self-spreading agent. 27:26.462 --> 27:30.445 It would have been an agent that just was kind of like a toxin, but a transfection. 27:31.584 --> 27:50.670 Now, because of the Russian time there, I didn't really have enough time to say it, but that's a very, very plausible, maybe even more plausible way than the whole genome and putting that DNA anywhere or that RNA anywhere because of the size of the molecule will be much more stable, less stable, excuse me. 27:50.690 --> 27:51.571 And so, 27:55.774 --> 28:04.517 I'm still bouncing around with the most parsimonious explanation, the most likely, the most feasible is what I would say. 28:05.197 --> 28:14.920 And when I came back to the spike protein in that talk was because of the striking impression that the videos that the BBC released 28:15.922 --> 28:28.555 which had Inovios, you know, vats of bacteria in the background that were growing spike protein for various applications, the spike protein DNA, and then later spike protein. 28:29.596 --> 28:38.585 And they showed the spike protein nucleic acid sequence on the screen with that big, tall, blonde lady from Scotland that has giant hands. 28:40.289 --> 29:04.820 Um, I just, it's, it's blowing my mind now that in the end, even arguing about infectious clones may be okay for them because we're never going to get back to the idea that they could have transfected us with a designer immunogen, gotten us to develop antibodies to it, and essentially gotten us to think that something was spreading wherever they wanted to put it and they could still put it anywhere they wanted to put it. 29:06.456 --> 29:10.138 But it would be focused on this, you know, biological toxin. 29:12.819 --> 29:13.199 I don't know. 29:13.399 --> 29:26.045 I just think we all need to understand the implications of what I said on the screen for the last year, that synthetic DNA and RNA can be used to transform and transfect cells for the last 10 or 12 years. 29:26.565 --> 29:32.308 So any application of this technology has now become orders of magnitude cheaper. 29:35.031 --> 29:37.272 Because Kevin McKernan has explained that. 29:37.352 --> 29:39.794 I have him in red because I think he's very special. 29:40.354 --> 29:46.678 Because he's very special, because he's part of these people that really wants us to fear the free-range RNA molecules. 29:46.718 --> 29:52.542 And he was put on the street very, very early to spread these dangerous ideas, or at least to curate them. 29:53.022 --> 29:55.584 And that's what you see happening here right now. 29:55.624 --> 29:57.705 The Scooby-Doo has this exact effect. 29:58.686 --> 30:00.267 This is a person who tweeted today a 30:03.755 --> 30:08.099 graphic produced by Rand Paul, or Rand Paul's staff. 30:08.500 --> 30:16.387 The graphic says, Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, which we're gonna watch today, why COVID-19 was likely a lab leak. 30:16.427 --> 30:18.810 Top 10 reasons based on available information. 30:18.910 --> 30:20.511 No animal reservoir. 30:21.532 --> 30:23.394 I mean, no animal reservoir. 30:24.996 --> 30:26.477 Lack of genetic diversity. 30:26.537 --> 30:27.318 Is that Alina Chan? 30:29.588 --> 30:31.989 I'm just saying that that's not evidence either. 30:32.070 --> 30:34.791 Lack of preexisting antibodies, wow. 30:36.092 --> 30:39.014 Unusual fear in cleavage site. 30:41.275 --> 30:42.716 The diffuse proposal. 30:44.817 --> 30:48.139 Gain of function research at WIV. 30:49.660 --> 30:52.542 Sick researchers WIV fall of 2019. 30:54.835 --> 30:57.699 History of lab safety issues at WIV. 30:58.580 --> 30:59.080 So what? 30:59.521 --> 31:01.243 Proximity of labs, so what? 31:02.545 --> 31:02.985 You see? 31:05.408 --> 31:08.672 FBI and Department of Energy concluded lab incident. 31:08.712 --> 31:13.919 Department of Energy is where the Human Genome Project originated from, interestingly enough. 31:14.932 --> 31:16.193 So you see the effect, right? 31:16.213 --> 31:23.617 Because he says one clear slide to destroy all Philip Marcolin's tedious, silly infographics. 31:23.637 --> 31:40.727 So Philip Marcolin, what he doesn't realize was, was wittingly or unwittingly there and elevated as a virologist to drive people like him directly into that idea. 31:43.035 --> 31:47.460 Basically pretending that, oh no man, this isn't planned. 31:48.882 --> 31:51.105 I'm letting you get me like this. 31:52.967 --> 31:59.836 And it's extraordinary because like I said, I'm sure it's true because for a long time, these people were playing this game with me. 32:01.124 --> 32:09.692 And as long as you continue to play this game with them, and it's kind of like riding around in a metal sphere on two motorcycles. 32:09.772 --> 32:15.817 As long as you keep chasing that guy around, it doesn't matter what angle you take within this little debate. 32:15.917 --> 32:16.518 It doesn't matter. 32:16.538 --> 32:21.322 You're just going to keep going around and around and around, and you're going to feel like, wow, this is amazing. 32:23.324 --> 32:24.325 This guy won't give up. 32:26.124 --> 32:28.325 And now they think they're finally dunking on him. 32:28.385 --> 32:33.648 But actually what's happening is now the whole thing has just started to rotate like this and the crowd started to cheer. 32:34.028 --> 32:39.051 And so actually both people inside of the wheel feel like they're winning. 32:50.338 --> 32:51.258 So that's it, right? 32:51.278 --> 32:52.259 I mean, that's where we are. 32:55.229 --> 33:06.037 They have pulled a stunt on us to be admired and to be seen with admiration, indeed. 33:06.517 --> 33:08.959 How perfectly this stunt was pulled off. 33:09.359 --> 33:19.566 They put this guy in place 24th of April, 2020, with a story that was kind of mealy-mouthed about whether or not it was novel or not. 33:19.887 --> 33:24.450 And the definition of novel might not be as novel as they say it is, but 33:25.643 --> 33:27.065 You accept that there's something. 33:28.486 --> 33:30.429 You accept there's something worth talking about. 33:30.469 --> 33:32.631 You accept that there's something worth testing for. 33:33.032 --> 33:37.197 And now this guy's going off about how he's so happy to have somebody in the PCR space. 33:39.124 --> 34:05.813 This guy who used to work for Monsanto and the World Bank who decided to start podcasting at the start of the pandemic and two months in a row or three weeks in a row has some guy from the Human Genome Project on who's waxing intellectual about how he's decided to spool up on SARS-CoV-2 testing because he's in marijuana and he's afraid that very soon they might decide that SARS-CoV-2 is spreading via marijuana. 34:05.833 --> 34:07.114 So he needs to test for it. 34:07.774 --> 34:13.097 And so since he's testing for it, he now becomes a default expert in the testing. 34:13.117 --> 34:14.277 Well, I'm testing my weed. 34:15.018 --> 34:16.579 I mean, I'm testing my weed. 34:16.699 --> 34:18.379 I work for the Human Genome Project. 34:19.960 --> 34:23.502 And then of course he had to come back again in December and kind of clarify some things. 34:23.562 --> 34:25.843 And there was no clarification at all. 34:25.863 --> 34:28.445 It was just keeping us right, we're locked in the rails. 34:28.545 --> 34:34.688 Now it wouldn't be that big of deal, except for in the interim time between that and when he was on this 34:35.968 --> 34:44.691 Senate hearing a few months ago, he was on my podcast twice trying to keep me right in those rails until I wouldn't stay in those rails anymore. 34:45.171 --> 34:47.792 And then he blocked me on Twitter and started calling me an idiot. 34:49.793 --> 34:53.554 And then CHD promoted him like he's a genius. 34:53.614 --> 35:04.378 And he's discovered the double-stranded contamination in a product that he could have told you was going to have double-stranded DNA contamination in it on the first podcast that he was on on the 24th of April, 2020. 35:08.134 --> 35:09.735 but they're titrating the narrative. 35:09.775 --> 35:18.839 They're slow rolling us through a controlled demolition of America using this public health crisis as the narrative. 35:20.300 --> 35:24.282 And they are working for the same people that Tony Fauci works for, the same people. 35:25.302 --> 35:28.244 It's all just one big Lollapalooza of liars. 35:28.284 --> 35:31.065 You just didn't know that they were all the same stage company. 35:34.349 --> 35:46.936 And that's why I take no pleasure in saying this, but at the time that this happened, I still thought it was a great honor and that these people were giving me their precious time and I should see it as nothing more than holy crap, finally. 35:46.956 --> 35:52.119 I don't see it that way anymore, ladies and gentlemen. 35:52.139 --> 35:56.041 I don't see it that way anymore because I think they wanted me to help them mislead the young. 35:57.162 --> 36:00.464 I think it's possible that Giordano is a good guy. 36:01.727 --> 36:13.212 I think it's possible that he's saying a lot more than they probably would rather have him say, but because of the way he says it, you know, it's sometimes I wonder. 36:14.172 --> 36:22.175 He says more in this video in 2017 than most of these clowns have said in the last four years that it's worth getting our children out of the trap. 36:24.096 --> 36:28.858 And that's why I keep flashing these people on the screen because they're all part of the same little group 36:31.792 --> 36:33.832 And I should have seen it years ago, but I didn't. 36:33.952 --> 36:36.993 And that's part of the reason why some of my friends and family members are dead. 36:37.173 --> 36:37.973 I didn't have it. 36:38.413 --> 36:39.133 I didn't see it. 36:39.173 --> 36:43.514 I couldn't show anyone because I was trapped by these people. 36:43.594 --> 36:49.355 They were interacting with me, complimenting me, encouraging me in specific directions. 36:53.096 --> 36:54.176 And there are good people. 36:54.216 --> 36:54.796 I'm sure of it. 36:54.836 --> 36:59.777 And then there are people, I don't know if they're good or bad, but I got a hunch. 37:01.684 --> 37:07.949 And then I have had personal interaction with people that makes me believe they are certainly part of this limited spectrum of debate. 37:07.989 --> 37:08.870 And that's all it is. 37:10.271 --> 37:12.133 They don't even have to feel very bad about it. 37:12.173 --> 37:15.716 That's what compartmentalizing these different parts of the narrative does. 37:15.756 --> 37:19.259 It allows these people to feel less bad because they don't have to tell so many lies. 37:22.101 --> 37:23.722 Nobody's got to tell all the lies. 37:24.683 --> 37:27.946 The only one who points out all the lies is somebody who's telling the truth, right? 37:31.155 --> 37:34.417 And that's what this conscious and intelligent manipulation of us is all about. 37:35.878 --> 37:37.900 But in 1924, they already knew that. 37:37.960 --> 37:43.023 So now when we have social media in our pocket, you can rest assured that we are in big trouble. 37:44.404 --> 37:55.231 And the signs of it are this, they're all breaking down now, they're all freaking out, they're all circling their wagons and trying to get one more person, one more mole, one more somebody, 37:56.172 --> 37:57.033 But there's no more. 37:57.073 --> 37:57.713 They're all left. 37:57.753 --> 37:59.194 They've all exposed themselves. 37:59.234 --> 38:00.235 They've made mistakes. 38:00.895 --> 38:07.460 There are actually several people that you're not even aware of yet that we are aware of that are exposed because of what they've done behind the scenes. 38:08.521 --> 38:09.422 That's how bad it is. 38:09.582 --> 38:12.624 That's how close this landslide is to falling right off the table. 38:12.684 --> 38:24.552 Because this explanation about how several people standing at this train pulling the same joke, like Meryl Nass, Robert Malone, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Mary Holland, 38:28.027 --> 38:55.892 a few other people, plus Tony Fauci, plus Trevor Bedford, plus Hans Christian Andersen, whatever the hell his name is, plus Vincent Rancinello, plus David Baltimore, plus Bob Gallo, plus Stanley Plotkin, plus Hilary Kaprowski, all pulling on this thing for two or three decades and handing off to their students to make sure that this gag never, never, don't leave the train alone. 38:56.957 --> 38:58.558 Never leave this train alone. 38:58.598 --> 39:01.159 You always gotta have four or five friends here to stop it. 39:01.619 --> 39:05.801 And before you can get off this train, you're gonna have to teach someone else the truth of it. 39:07.362 --> 39:08.702 That's basically how it works. 39:09.323 --> 39:10.383 I'm convinced of it. 39:10.563 --> 39:19.427 That's the reason why Tony Fauci's been where he's been for so long, because he's been one of the central players in this, but there are others. 39:19.507 --> 39:25.070 There have to always be others, because it is a combination of people lying to you, even the opposition. 39:28.263 --> 39:31.666 Even if it's only opposition in the meeting with all the people with lanyards. 39:33.087 --> 39:35.829 Even if it's only opposition in the top secret discussion. 39:37.010 --> 39:42.334 It's always been this train exercise here with multiple people in on the gag. 39:43.915 --> 39:47.958 That's why elected people can come in and out of office and never find out. 39:48.018 --> 39:50.239 They're never even asked to stand next to the train. 39:51.641 --> 39:54.623 They're only asked, wait, we're gonna stop it and then you get in. 39:57.140 --> 39:58.901 Exactly, now you see it. 40:00.641 --> 40:01.561 Now you see it. 40:03.342 --> 40:04.722 Because that's what they often do. 40:05.162 --> 40:05.903 Let us stop it. 40:05.943 --> 40:07.623 We'll stop the train then, you get in. 40:12.104 --> 40:17.166 That's how they're misleading the young, ladies and gentlemen, and that's how we teach our kids to see it. 40:20.262 --> 40:32.567 One of the ones that I really wanted to point out last week, and I did it, and I want to make sure that you go back and see, that's the virology review discussion that I did in two parts a couple days ago before the Red Pill Conference. 40:33.027 --> 40:40.110 This quote actually comes, this quote, you can believe there was a virus, you can believe that virus killed people, you can believe gain-of-function played a role. 40:40.150 --> 40:42.571 In fact, it's all easier when a virus is spreading to 40:44.542 --> 40:50.887 It's pretty extraordinary when you're reminded of what Henry Kissinger said about true and truth. 40:53.069 --> 40:54.970 And so this person is actually a leader. 40:55.071 --> 41:01.896 She's actually the co-chair of a group called Heart in the UK, where of course they murdered people and lied about it. 41:03.197 --> 41:10.223 And yet somehow or another, here she is kind of talking about testing as if testing is totally great, I guess. 41:18.224 --> 41:19.805 This is in the heart of the pandemic. 41:20.545 --> 41:22.747 Now, testing itself can fail. 41:23.407 --> 41:24.708 Every test involves a compromise. 41:24.728 --> 41:30.492 You have to choose, do I want to find every possible case, or do I only want to find the definite cases? 41:31.413 --> 41:36.877 And at the beginning of an epidemic, when cases are growing, over-diagnosing a few people is acceptable. 41:37.697 --> 41:39.999 But at peak deaths, you have to change strategy. 41:40.500 --> 41:45.103 You change strategy, instead of focusing on the individual, you look at the population. 41:45.344 --> 41:52.069 Instead of trying to diagnose every possible case, you want to find the definite cases, and you have to change your laboratory strategy. 41:53.130 --> 41:59.833 So you may have heard people talk about restaurants and say that there are three things restaurants can do, but they can only do two of them well. 42:00.193 --> 42:03.595 You can have fast food, cheap food, or high quality food. 42:04.155 --> 42:11.578 Well, it's the same with laboratories, but the three things are high volume of tests, high speed of tests, or quality test results. 42:11.598 --> 42:12.559 And you choose two. 42:12.779 --> 42:14.080 We chose volume and speed. 42:14.340 --> 42:17.081 And actually, that's a good thing to choose at the beginning of an epidemic. 42:17.561 --> 42:23.624 But we haven't changed our strategy, and we have compromised throughout on quality, which has resulted in unreliable test results. 42:24.484 --> 42:31.448 Somebody who's infected will release up to 100,000 virus particles every minute into the air. 42:31.808 --> 42:35.129 They're about the size, the aerosols are about the size of smoke particles. 42:35.450 --> 42:40.232 And waving a test swab through that air could be enough to have a positive test result. 42:40.732 --> 43:02.677 smoke particles smoke particles would kind of imply that maybe masks would work that's extraordinary right and so this is what we're up against ladies and gentlemen we're up against her and the people that protect her her and the people that say that you're dividing when you point this out and that's how this works sample that gets tested from a patient 43:03.357 --> 43:10.199 You need 5,000 particles of virus to represent a patient who's capable of infecting another patient. 43:10.679 --> 43:15.761 PCR testing has been set up to detect four virus particles. 43:16.701 --> 43:26.924 So just to make that clear, you will be called positive when you have got 1,000 times fewer particles in that sample than is needed to be an infectious patient. 43:27.344 --> 43:46.960 so the consequence of that is that low levels of bystander virus and immune people will both be called positive tests results and then cases when they have no evidence that they are a risk to others bystander virus she said so um left-handed monkey wrench who won the money that today and yesterday um 43:48.021 --> 43:52.766 He asked a question, so I'm going to go back one slide, not because I didn't read it. 43:53.226 --> 43:55.568 So Claire Clegg is a diagnostic pathologist. 43:55.588 --> 44:01.414 She practiced in the NIH for 15 years, becoming a fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists. 44:01.514 --> 44:08.901 In 2016, she became the day-to-day lead for pathology and clinical data in the cancer arm of the 100,000 Genomes Project. 44:08.941 --> 44:11.984 She also worked in AI cancer diagnostics. 44:12.665 --> 44:22.294 From May 2020, Claire Craig has worked full-time, pro bono, on COVID research, distilling the evidence for a lay audience. 44:28.100 --> 44:29.601 I'm going to skip that, of course. 44:30.422 --> 44:35.427 And so that's the problem, because these two guys, of course, came to her defense, and they also have been 44:38.789 --> 44:43.946 They have been represented to me as two people that I should write something about virology with. 44:44.710 --> 44:54.719 And I tried to write something about virology with regard to the infectious clones and tried to respond to Kevin McKernan's tirades, but they never really helped me with that. 44:54.759 --> 44:57.321 They just kind of ignored that review that I was building. 44:57.361 --> 45:05.828 And instead, at some point on May, before May 30th, they presented this little thing to me and asked me if I wanted to read it. 45:07.089 --> 45:08.491 And it's basically the same thing. 45:09.517 --> 45:11.498 It's the same thing as the heart lady said. 45:11.918 --> 45:15.939 It's the same thing as the faith, only worded slightly differently, like a lot more words. 45:16.540 --> 45:30.305 And the frustrating thing is in that stream, of course, I read these messages that I sent to them a couple of weeks before they actually, or a week before they published this article as evidence that I've been teaching them this stuff. 45:30.405 --> 45:33.786 You know, they know that this, the virology in that article is just, 45:34.466 --> 45:40.828 standard virology and so they wrote a virology 101 according to Vincent Ransom Yellow with their own words. 45:40.948 --> 45:41.428 So what? 45:42.448 --> 45:44.849 All they say is that there's no easy explanation. 45:45.129 --> 45:48.690 They don't, they don't offer any, any real insight at all. 45:48.750 --> 45:51.770 In fact, I don't think you get smarter by reading what they wrote. 45:53.111 --> 45:54.211 That's how awful it is. 45:56.331 --> 45:57.872 And yet they wanted my name on it. 45:58.492 --> 46:02.373 They put my name in it in like the 30 second citation or some bullshit. 46:03.356 --> 46:23.312 They don't seem to be clever enough to understand this basic thing that if all living eukaryotes are signaling with RNA and DNA all the time between their tissues and just releasing it spontaneously as a result of how this works, then the background is not some, you know, 46:25.071 --> 46:37.137 recently wiped off chalkboard, and you don't have the special physicist Japanese chalk, and you're about to write something on a pure chalkboard with pure dustless chalk. 46:40.038 --> 46:50.103 This is a background that we have no hope of really quantifying and understanding, and that's why books like this one exist. 46:52.415 --> 46:56.679 Cause this is a book about that bullshit from a decade ago. 46:59.862 --> 47:07.490 They used to try and call them latent viruses as a way of getting us to believe that this, this background was somehow understandable. 47:19.773 --> 47:23.175 So let's do this Senate hearing, you know, because it's got to be done. 47:23.576 --> 47:24.476 They've had another one. 47:24.636 --> 47:28.659 I don't, I don't know if we need to ever stop it and wax very intellectual. 47:28.719 --> 47:36.764 Maybe we can just laugh about it and make, maybe I'll type some stuff in, in the chat or react to the chat as we go, because we know what they're going to say. 47:36.844 --> 47:44.089 This is a, this is a Senate hearing about, it's a Senate hearing about, about the Scooby-Doo. 47:44.909 --> 47:49.072 And so we're not going to hear anything other than, than gut-wrenching 47:49.910 --> 47:56.153 narrative curation here and drama based on the idea that it's definitely not natural. 47:56.213 --> 47:57.713 It's a definite lab leak. 47:57.813 --> 47:58.634 Come on already. 47:59.014 --> 48:12.399 And of course, center to this is going to be the witnesses that will testify to that list of 10 things that I showed you earlier, which I might just pop back up on the screen here to make sure that you remember it. 48:14.620 --> 48:15.721 Recall, oh, you demon. 48:16.374 --> 48:16.955 Hue Demon. 48:19.579 --> 48:19.979 Where is it? 48:20.159 --> 48:21.001 Back here, sorry. 48:22.082 --> 48:22.623 In the beginning. 48:25.727 --> 48:30.113 And so this is from Senator Ryan Paul, I believe, this thing. 48:30.153 --> 48:32.016 Sorry, I got my arrow always in the wrong screen. 48:32.512 --> 48:34.234 why COVID-19 was likely a lab leak. 48:34.314 --> 48:36.296 I suspect we're going to see a big poster of this. 48:37.317 --> 48:52.811 And so we know the unusual fear and cleavage site that has propelled the fame of one Charles Rixey, who just can't seem to drop the fear and cleavage site as the proof, besides the DARPA diffuse proposal, which is just laughable. 48:54.012 --> 48:55.894 We'll listen to what they talk about these things. 48:59.335 --> 49:06.422 I'd like to be done by about 2.30 because I'd like to go and do some things with the family that they're going to do. 49:06.502 --> 49:09.145 And if I keep going after 2.30, then they're going to do it without me. 49:09.946 --> 49:12.949 So I don't know if I can stop this very often, but we'll see. 49:13.890 --> 49:14.550 Let's just do it. 49:14.791 --> 49:18.074 I know it's going to be painful, but we can make it fun if we work together. 49:19.392 --> 49:26.655 The COVID-19 pandemic was one of the worst public health crises that our country has ever faced. 49:27.235 --> 49:30.756 We lost more than 1 million Americans to the virus. 49:31.316 --> 49:34.498 Family members and neighbors, friends and colleagues. 49:35.138 --> 49:37.819 And millions more died around the world. 49:38.639 --> 49:52.769 The COVID-19 pandemic led to a once-in-a-generation event that not only threatened our public health, but also created unprecedented challenges to our economic and homeland security, as well as our very way of life. 49:53.650 --> 50:06.513 As Americans navigated the COVID-19 pandemic, they endured challenging healthcare guidance, uncertainty and misinformation about how to best protect themselves and their families from this deadly virus. 50:07.353 --> 50:23.116 Today's hearing is intended to examine the available scientific evidence related to the virus that causes COVID-19 and provides some transparency to Americans who are continuing to have to navigate their exposure to the virus. 50:23.456 --> 50:27.919 So that's a pretty extraordinary commitment to the lie, right? 50:28.059 --> 50:29.760 There is no doubt it's novel. 50:29.821 --> 50:31.121 It's no doubt it's there. 50:31.181 --> 50:33.823 They're still exposed to the risk. 50:35.925 --> 50:37.226 This is the enchantment. 50:37.726 --> 50:39.427 This is the exact enchantment. 50:39.807 --> 50:41.949 He is reading it for you. 50:43.770 --> 50:50.155 It's no different than the State Farm commercial where the person sings the State Farm chant and then, 50:51.206 --> 50:52.787 There comes the state farm agent. 50:53.368 --> 50:54.269 It's the same thing. 50:54.329 --> 50:56.251 They are just casting enchantments. 50:56.691 --> 51:02.436 Sometimes they're making light of casting enchantments, and sometimes they're actually casting them. 51:02.476 --> 51:16.609 Right now, this is an enchantment being cast on you using technology, using social media, using electromagnetic radiation, using all of the things that they use to get this signal into our heads. 51:19.727 --> 51:25.302 It's better than any wizard could do with any amount of spells and magic powders and flashes. 51:31.505 --> 51:38.311 As chairman of this committee, I led an investigation into the federal government's initial pandemic response. 51:38.811 --> 51:49.199 The report was called historically unprepared and included recommendations on how we can ensure that we're better prepared to prevent and respond to future pandemics. 51:50.066 --> 51:59.074 This March, I also launched a bipartisan biosecurity and life science research investigation prepared to prevent initial pandemic response. 51:59.595 --> 52:09.964 The report was called Historically Unprepared and included recommendations on how we can ensure that we're better prepared to prevent and respond to future pandemics. 52:10.834 --> 52:27.156 This March, I also launched a bipartisan biosecurity and life science research investigation with ranking member Paul to look into a wide range of constantly evolving biological risk and threats to better enhance our preparedness for future incidents. 52:27.984 --> 52:43.453 This morning, we're gonna hear from academic experts who can discuss how COVID-19 pandemic may have started and how we can learn from this outbreak to better address future potential infectious disease outbreaks and protect human life. 52:44.534 --> 52:55.220 Better understanding of the possible origins of COVID-19 pandemic is not only important to our public health, it is also a matter of homeland security. 52:56.058 --> 53:04.662 We must learn from the challenges faced during this pandemic to ensure we can better protect Americans from future potential biological incident. 53:05.643 --> 53:16.728 Our government needs the flexibility to determine the origins of naturally occurring outbreaks, as well as potential outbreaks that could arise from mistakes or malicious intent. 53:17.745 --> 53:26.958 All that said, the history has shown us it is seldom simple or straightforward to identify the singular cause of an infectious disease outbreak. 53:27.498 --> 53:33.627 It can take months or years to pinpoint an origin, and in some cases, we may never find the answer. 53:34.628 --> 53:36.229 This is also the case with COVID-19. 53:36.489 --> 53:49.314 There are theories that indicate that COVID-19 began either by entering the human population through an entirely natural means or possibly through a lab incident or accident. 53:51.596 --> 54:01.360 government may never fully disclose all the information they have about the initial COVID-19 outbreak, we must use the scientific information available to better prepare for future potential pandemics. 54:01.940 --> 54:13.525 We must not only examine the scientific information we have about COVID-19, but also the tools and procedures the government has in place to understand such viral outbreaks and how we can prevent them from becoming widespread in the future. 54:14.105 --> 54:25.271 Today's hearing and our panel of expert witnesses will help us understand how the most recent pandemic began so that we can take necessary steps to protect the American people from future biological threats. 54:26.611 --> 54:29.333 Now I'd like to recognize Ranking Member Paul for his opening remarks. 54:31.892 --> 54:35.314 Today we are here to examine one of the most critical and debated questions of our time. 54:35.874 --> 54:37.475 Did COVID-19 originate in a lab? 54:38.055 --> 54:45.039 To answer this question, let's revisit the early days of the pandemic and examine what some of Dr. Anthony Fauci's inner circle said privately about the origins of the virus. 54:45.419 --> 54:48.601 Discussions that were only revealed through FOIA litigation. 54:49.081 --> 54:58.686 Christian Anderson wrote, the lab escape version of this is so friggin' likely to have happened because they were already doing this type of work and the molecular data is fully consistent with that scenario. 54:59.486 --> 55:08.749 Ian Lipkin stressed the nightmare of circumstantial evidence to assess regarding the possibility of inadvertent release given the scale of bat coronavirus research pursued in Wuhan. 55:09.669 --> 55:23.734 Bob Gary said, I really can't think of a plausible natural scenario where you get from the bat virus or one very similar to it to COVID-19, where you insert exactly four amino acids, 12 nucleotides, and all have to be added at the exact same time to gain this function. 55:23.994 --> 55:26.715 I just can't figure out how this gets accomplished in nature. 55:27.395 --> 55:34.237 According to Gary, it's not crackpot to suggest this could have happened, given the gain-of-function research we know was happening at Wuhan. 55:34.638 --> 55:38.959 These are all private statements, which you'll discover today differ greatly from their public statements. 55:39.499 --> 55:49.983 Even Ralph Baric, world-famous gain-of-function researcher and collaborator with Wuhan's Dr. Xi admitted, so they, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, have a very large collection of viruses in their laboratory. 55:50.363 --> 55:52.564 And so, as you know, proximity is a problem. 55:52.664 --> 55:53.244 It's a problem. 55:54.358 --> 56:06.843 Federal court orders revealed that even Dr. Fauci himself privately acknowledged concerns about gain-of-function research in Wuhan and mutations in the virus that suggest it might have been engineered just days before he commissioned the proximal origin paper. 56:07.443 --> 56:13.466 Despite these private doubts, publicly, these so-called experts and their allies were dismissing the lab leak theory as a conspiracy. 56:13.926 --> 56:20.409 Within days, Anderson, Lipkin, and Gehry were putting final touches on what would be remembered as one of the most remarkable reversals in modern history. 56:21.149 --> 56:28.116 In their proximal origin paper, these scientists concluded, we do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible. 56:28.696 --> 56:29.938 Privately, they were saying one thing. 56:30.198 --> 56:31.439 Publicly, they were saying another. 56:32.120 --> 56:41.349 Media pundits parroted the narrative, while social media platforms censored discussion about the lab leak, labeling it as misinformation and stifling open discourse about the virus's origins. 56:41.949 --> 56:43.850 The cover-up went beyond public statements. 56:44.271 --> 56:50.115 Federal agencies and key officials withheld and continue to conceal crucial information from both Congress and the public. 56:50.515 --> 56:58.201 For instance, David Morenz, Dr. David Morenz of the NIH, deleted emails that could have contained valuable insights into early discussions. 56:58.541 --> 57:01.524 When he deleted them, he made the comment, I think we're safe now. 57:02.584 --> 57:08.389 He deleted emails, he said, the early emails I've deleted to Peter Dayzak at EcoHealth, I think we're safe now. 57:10.899 --> 57:13.922 The ODNI failed to comply with a law that was passed unanimously. 57:14.662 --> 57:16.404 One of the senators on this committee got it passed. 57:16.424 --> 57:19.627 We were going to declassify all this and revealed it and the administration has refused. 57:19.867 --> 57:26.373 HHS and NIH have not produced documents related to the gain of function research that the chairman and I requested nearly a year ago. 57:26.874 --> 57:32.119 I've been asking for two or three years as an individual member with some other Republican members and have not gotten these records. 57:32.179 --> 57:35.422 I've now asked with the Democrat chairman over a year and they're still resisting. 57:35.922 --> 57:36.923 They say it's not gain-of-function. 57:36.943 --> 57:37.723 Well, let's hear the debate. 57:38.124 --> 57:40.446 Did they debate at NIH whether it was gain-of-function in Wuhan? 57:40.646 --> 57:42.507 If there's a debate, let's hear the scientific arguments on both sides. 57:42.527 --> 57:44.308 They will not give us that information. 57:45.369 --> 57:52.655 This has been a deliberate prolonged effort to deceive the committee about certain gain-of-function research experiments that the agencies have been withholding. 57:54.926 --> 58:00.108 What we have found as we've gone through this is that at every step there's been resistance. 58:00.548 --> 58:04.429 So the hearing today is to try to find out whether or not we can get to the truth. 58:04.649 --> 58:06.010 Do we know for certain it came from the lab? 58:06.430 --> 58:09.811 No, but there's a preponderance of evidence indicating that it may have come from the lab. 58:10.071 --> 58:11.951 Do we know viruses have come from animals in the past? 58:12.252 --> 58:13.872 Yes, they've come from animals in the past. 58:14.252 --> 58:15.733 But this time there's no animal reservoir. 58:15.853 --> 58:17.533 There's no animal handlers with antibiotics. 58:17.993 --> 58:19.414 There's a lot of reasons why 58:20.194 --> 58:22.737 There are indications that this could well have come from the lab. 58:23.017 --> 58:24.398 This is what the discussion we'll have today. 58:24.438 --> 58:26.020 This is a discussion that's long and coming. 58:26.040 --> 58:29.904 It's been over three years that we've been asking for this, but this is great. 58:29.964 --> 58:30.384 This is good. 58:30.404 --> 58:33.487 We'll have scientists on both sides of this issue, and I hope we have a spirited debate. 58:33.728 --> 58:34.028 Thank you. 58:35.169 --> 58:36.170 Thank you, Ricky member Paul. 58:36.731 --> 58:39.053 It is the practice of this committee to swear in witnesses. 58:39.093 --> 58:41.836 So if each of you would please stand and raise your right hands. 58:44.898 --> 58:49.200 Do you swear the testimony that you will give before this committee will be the truth, the whole truth? 58:49.600 --> 58:52.001 Oh my gosh, is those four clowns? 58:52.822 --> 58:54.222 Oh, that's fantastic. 58:56.523 --> 59:01.545 So basically where we are, wow, this is going to be, this is just crazy. 59:02.406 --> 59:07.288 Um, has zoonosis occurred in the past? 59:08.570 --> 59:10.791 is already an interesting question to ask. 59:11.512 --> 59:13.153 What is defined as zoonosis? 59:13.193 --> 59:22.818 Does that mean that an RNA that was in an animal caused illness or is associated with illness in a human or another animal species? 59:23.398 --> 59:25.640 Or does it mean that something that was 59:26.500 --> 59:35.026 in one animal species and shown to be in that animal species and circulate in that animal species has now started to circulate in another animal species. 59:35.086 --> 59:41.791 Because there's an anonymous account on Twitter named Annabelle that said it more succinctly than I've ever said it. 59:42.912 --> 59:46.374 And so it shows you that not all anonymous accounts are bad. 59:48.476 --> 59:54.260 But all a PCR test does, even the presence of a sequence, all that tells you is that there was a proximity. 59:56.144 --> 01:00:00.106 It's like her analogy that she chose to use was pollen. 01:00:00.827 --> 01:00:08.591 That if you can detect pollen, that doesn't necessarily mean that now RNA or DNA from plants is expressing in your lungs. 01:00:09.551 --> 01:00:16.115 And in fact, I think that even the presence of RNA or DNA in your lungs doesn't mean that it's expressing and being actively packaged. 01:00:18.336 --> 01:00:23.179 And that's a very important point that I haven't even made in four years, but I think it's a very, very good one. 01:00:24.921 --> 01:00:27.887 So anyway, I'm just gonna keep going or we're never gonna get done 01:00:28.783 --> 01:00:31.124 Our first witness is Dr. Gregory Koblitz. 01:00:31.524 --> 01:00:39.488 He is an associate professor and director of the Biodefense Graduate Program at George Mason University's Schar School of Policy and Government. 01:00:39.688 --> 01:00:52.613 He serves as editor-in-chief of the Pandora Report, an online newsletter that covers global health security, and as co-director of the Global Biolabs Initiative that tracks high-security labs and bio-risk management policies around the world. 01:00:53.074 --> 01:00:55.955 Dr. Koblitz, you are now recognized for your opening statement. 01:00:58.371 --> 01:00:58.631 Thank you. 01:00:58.791 --> 01:01:04.653 Chairman Peters, Ranking Member Paul, and other members of the committee, thank you for the opportunity to talk to you today about the origins of COVID-19 and its implications for U.S. 01:01:04.693 --> 01:01:06.234 biodefense and global health security. 01:01:07.534 --> 01:01:12.016 I've been conducting research and teaching on biodefense, global health security, and bioresource management for the last 25 years. 01:01:12.916 --> 01:01:17.418 So he's been teaching about this mythology for the last 25 years. 01:01:17.478 --> 01:01:24.280 His paycheck is dependent on him accepting the worst case scenario of pandemics being a billion people dead. 01:01:25.478 --> 01:01:26.098 It just does. 01:01:26.318 --> 01:01:28.619 It requires him to be that guy. 01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:36.520 Is he a useful idiot and doesn't understand that they can make tons of this DNA if they wanted to and put it anywhere they wanted to and claim they were finding it? 01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:51.543 Is he so dumb as to realize that they can make small, not to realize that they can make small biologics or that they can make small RNA transfection vehicles that could easily be used to express toxic proteins in places they're not supposed to be? 01:01:52.990 --> 01:01:56.972 and detect them then subsequently using the same sequence knowledge and data? 01:01:58.193 --> 01:02:01.175 Like, is it possible that people are that dumb? 01:02:01.255 --> 01:02:03.336 It absolutely is because I was. 01:02:06.878 --> 01:02:13.322 It absolutely is because almost everyone at every medical school in America and around the world is that dumb. 01:02:13.362 --> 01:02:19.266 They don't understand that the brass tacks of this is that at the heart of this 01:02:20.234 --> 01:02:24.298 is an exponentially decreasing cost of making DNA cheaply. 01:02:25.098 --> 01:02:41.852 And any small toxic protein, the DNA and therefore the RNA encoding it can be very cheaply made nowadays, which means that transformation and transfection of anyone for any reason is ridiculously cheap. 01:02:44.515 --> 01:02:47.877 And that means that making, creating, 01:02:48.792 --> 01:02:58.680 an illusion about a spreading molecular target, which is what I wrote down molecular data for because again, remember, you know, we're not going to get done with this. 01:02:58.700 --> 01:03:03.804 There's no question, but I wrote down molecular data because that's a re they chose that word on purpose. 01:03:03.864 --> 01:03:05.846 The molecular data indicates. 01:03:07.227 --> 01:03:11.430 And what I'm trying to tell you is the molecular data can be faked for so cheap. 01:03:11.570 --> 01:03:12.391 It's ridiculous. 01:03:14.437 --> 01:03:23.860 And Kevin McKernan knows it, and that's why Kevin McKernan was intimately involved from the very beginning to make sure that no one would ever reach that really ridiculous conclusion. 01:03:24.340 --> 01:03:25.000 It's real. 01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:31.162 And that's also what I think some of these no-virus people have wittingly or unwittingly resulted in. 01:03:32.233 --> 01:03:35.254 is that people never got to the stage where they could just enunciate. 01:03:35.714 --> 01:03:45.936 Not only are these virology experiments dumb, but when they do actually work, they're using synthetic RNA and DNA to transform and transfect these cell cultures or animals. 01:03:46.376 --> 01:03:47.976 It's not really virology. 01:03:48.016 --> 01:04:00.059 It's just hijacking the already existing communication systems of these animals or these cells and calling it virology. 01:04:01.963 --> 01:04:14.030 If you realize where this all goes down to, it really goes down to the fact that virology may serve as a cover for them testing transformation and transfection on us for the last 35 years. 01:04:16.809 --> 01:04:41.119 and that every one of these incidences has been a coordinated test of a new agent, a coordinated exploration of a new aspect of this signaling, and misconstrued as a disease that we have to test for, a disease you have to sample, a disease we have to treat, and then lo and behold, it's not the average person that gets hit, it's a minority, it's the poor, it's the inconvenient old, 01:04:43.447 --> 01:04:48.378 Or it's the pregnant women that we have been trying to get our hands on as a testing animals for the last 40 years. 01:04:53.567 --> 01:05:14.182 I know this is crazy, but that's where the simplest explanation goes all the way down to the entire biosecurity state has been set up because they know the only way they're ever going to be able to dissect this irreducible complexity that is our biology and the biology of all the animals around us is to try and explain to you that our biology is stupid simple. 01:05:14.222 --> 01:05:16.584 It's DNA to RNA to ribosome to protein. 01:05:17.324 --> 01:05:25.550 But there's all this other crazy stuff out there with retroviruses and DNA viruses and single-stranded viruses and plus and minus strand viruses. 01:05:25.970 --> 01:05:32.474 And they all do all this crazy stuff that the only way we can test it is make synthetic copies of them and then grow them in cell culture. 01:05:38.879 --> 01:05:41.441 I think this is the gigantic lie that they're covering. 01:05:41.501 --> 01:05:42.581 That's what Ebola is. 01:05:42.621 --> 01:05:46.264 They just released viral-like particles like Sina Bavari designed. 01:05:47.520 --> 01:05:49.521 And then call it Ebola and see how far it goes. 01:05:49.561 --> 01:05:50.502 How long can we track it? 01:05:50.522 --> 01:05:51.663 What does it really do to people? 01:05:52.523 --> 01:05:53.524 How long does it last? 01:05:58.247 --> 01:06:01.690 It's not because those people are eating wild monkeys, ladies and gentlemen. 01:06:01.710 --> 01:06:03.631 I'll tell you that right now. 01:06:03.731 --> 01:06:05.432 I don't think that's happening. 01:06:05.832 --> 01:06:06.713 I think we're in trouble. 01:06:10.075 --> 01:06:11.416 So let's get on with this. 01:06:11.476 --> 01:06:16.520 Sorry, I lost my train of thought there for a second, but it won't happen often. 01:06:18.829 --> 01:06:25.753 I've submitted a lengthy written statement to you, which I will not go over today in detail, but I'm happy to answer any questions you have about it during the rest of the hearing. 01:06:26.133 --> 01:06:27.513 What I'd like to do is just highlight some key points. 01:06:28.334 --> 01:06:32.316 First, let me directly address the main topic of the hearing today, the available evidence on the origins of COVID-19. 01:06:32.836 --> 01:06:36.798 More than four years after the start of the pandemic, the origin of the SARS-CoV-2 virus remains a subject of debate. 01:06:37.198 --> 01:06:46.443 There are two pandemic pathways that have been widely discussed to explain how SARS-CoV-2 emerged in Wuhan in 2019, a natural spillover event from animals to humans, or an actual release of a pathogen from a laboratory. 01:06:46.903 --> 01:06:51.165 The possibility that SARS-CoV-2 was deliberately developed as a biological weapon has been unanimously rejected by all U.S. 01:06:51.185 --> 01:06:51.845 intelligence agencies. 01:06:52.426 --> 01:06:58.048 While the intelligence community is divided on the origin of the pandemic, most agencies have determined that the virus was not genetically engineered. 01:06:58.708 --> 01:07:03.010 I believe the available evidence points most strongly to a natural zoonotic spillover event as the origin of the pandemic. 01:07:03.430 --> 01:07:06.012 However, a research-related accident can't be ruled out at this time. 01:07:06.612 --> 01:07:13.235 A key obstacle to more definitive conclusion is the lack of transparency exercised by the Chinese government, which affects assessments of both potential pathways to the pandemic. 01:07:13.855 --> 01:07:20.738 Until there's an independent international transparent investigation, it's unlikely we'll be able to come up with a more definitive conclusion that'll satisfy both sides of the debate. 01:07:21.198 --> 01:07:34.163 So that doesn't really sound much different than what Kevin McKernan said in 2020 on April 24th on the Vance Crowe podcast when he said, I mean, if this is a lab leak, I'm going to need some pretty impressive evidence. 01:07:36.204 --> 01:07:42.647 Well, he just said that, well, you know, he thinks it's natural, but you know, there's some reason why we might not rule it out. 01:07:45.295 --> 01:07:50.357 We've made no progress in four years, essentially, from where Kevin McKernan was on the 24th of April, 2020. 01:07:50.697 --> 01:07:52.698 That's the truth. 01:07:53.918 --> 01:08:03.322 You can go back and watch that video on my show, or on stream.gigaohm.bio, or on my Rumble channel, and you'll see it. 01:08:03.602 --> 01:08:06.423 It's exactly the same story he told on April 24th, 2020. 01:08:06.543 --> 01:08:12.825 It's the same bullshit as this, with just a little added flavor, little salt, little pepper. 01:08:13.909 --> 01:08:15.270 It's not my intention to review this debate today. 01:08:15.650 --> 01:08:18.291 Instead of looking backwards, I prefer to look forwards and plan for the future. 01:08:18.631 --> 01:08:25.273 The reality is that we're not as well prepared to prevent, detect, respond to, or recover from a biological incident or pandemic as we should be, regardless of its origin. 01:08:25.713 --> 01:08:28.634 The growing HIV-N1 outbreak in the United States is a testament to the challenges that we face. 01:08:28.654 --> 01:08:30.975 If the government transfected people, 01:08:31.914 --> 01:08:33.775 and then said it was evidence of spread. 01:08:34.575 --> 01:08:38.796 If the government just planted a genetic signal and said it was evidence of spread. 01:08:39.196 --> 01:08:45.158 If the government spent 10 years characterizing the background signal and then used it as evidence of spread. 01:08:45.558 --> 01:08:51.319 In any of these scenarios, they murdered people and lied about it. 01:08:51.939 --> 01:08:59.021 In any of these scenarios, the biosecurity state is one great big sting where all these people agree to lie about it. 01:08:59.061 --> 01:09:01.242 Some of them wittingly, some of them unwittingly. 01:09:02.864 --> 01:09:03.744 And that's where we are. 01:09:03.924 --> 01:09:04.625 That's the deal. 01:09:04.905 --> 01:09:05.665 It's not a big deal. 01:09:05.865 --> 01:09:06.486 They can't hear her. 01:09:06.526 --> 01:09:06.926 Don't worry. 01:09:08.246 --> 01:09:14.669 So it's a, it's an important thing to focus on here with regard to what this guy's saying. 01:09:14.729 --> 01:09:16.610 He is just saying the same thing. 01:09:16.670 --> 01:09:22.192 Kevin McKernan said 24th of April, 2020, because we currently face the urgency of addressing them. 01:09:22.918 --> 01:09:24.981 The difficulty in determining the origin of COVID-19 is not unusual. 01:09:25.402 --> 01:09:30.570 Among the outbreaks and pandemics we've already experienced this century, it's taken years to identify the origin of a novel pathogen, sometimes in only general terms. 01:09:31.011 --> 01:09:35.137 Rarely is it possible to identify the exact sequence of events that led to the first human infection that sparked a pandemic. 01:09:36.004 --> 01:09:43.487 Determining the origin of an outbreak or pandemic can be divided into four stages. 01:09:43.747 --> 01:09:46.508 Detection, identification, characterization, and attribution. 01:09:46.988 --> 01:09:58.492 Understanding how a specific pathogen entered and spread in a population to cause an outbreak is a multidisciplinary undertaking that requires expertise in epidemiology, human medicine, veterinary medicine, biology, genetics, bioinformatics, ecology, anthropology, and related fields. 01:09:58.852 --> 01:10:04.756 We need many priests of many different orders before we can come to a decision. 01:10:05.236 --> 01:10:10.340 We need many different priests with many different colored robes before we can come to any decision. 01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:13.702 There is not one priest that can tell us the answer. 01:10:14.042 --> 01:10:20.526 There is not one adult that can take the responsibility for understanding the depth of this lie. 01:10:21.167 --> 01:10:24.029 Because if one adult does, that adult will figure it out. 01:10:26.550 --> 01:10:27.630 That's the reality of it. 01:10:27.690 --> 01:10:50.199 If you rely on other people for certain parts of the story instead of assembling it yourself, like all of us were fooled into doing with regard to the Scooby-Doo mystery, as we were handed clues to our face and behind our back on social media and on mainstream media, we need to get ourselves out of this in the same way we got ourselves into it. 01:10:50.259 --> 01:10:51.520 We need to figure our way out. 01:10:53.680 --> 01:10:59.005 And the way you solve the mystery is to see that this is a lollapalooza of liars, and it doesn't matter who you listen to. 01:10:59.906 --> 01:11:13.660 They are lying in coordination, opposing each other in coordination, agreeing to disagree so that you don't ask any questions yourself, so that you don't engage in any wheels, like the wheels don't turn. 01:11:14.261 --> 01:11:15.102 It's just passive. 01:11:17.509 --> 01:11:19.029 Our children need to see this. 01:11:19.670 --> 01:11:27.752 Seeking the origin of an outbreak requires collecting and analyzing a large amount of data collected from diverse sources by a range of agencies with a variety of scientific capabilities and disciplinary specializations. 01:11:28.152 --> 01:11:33.613 The quality of the data and the rigor of the epidemiological and scientific investigation will affect the level of confidence we have in these determinations. 01:11:34.333 --> 01:11:40.235 Determinations of the origin of a pandemic or an outbreak are rarely definitive and need to be carefully qualified to reflect the strength of available evidence as well as gaps and uncertainties. 01:11:41.260 --> 01:11:49.991 Determining the origin of an outbreak can improve the effectiveness of response to an ongoing incident, reduce the likelihood or magnitude of future incidents, or even prevent future outbreaks altogether. 01:11:50.531 --> 01:11:52.834 Making this information, however, is not always straightforward or successful. 01:11:53.155 --> 01:11:57.240 The process of investigating the source of an outbreak is like putting together a puzzle where you don't know what the final picture will look like. 01:11:57.720 --> 01:12:07.046 Putting together a puzzle, solving a Scooby-Doo mystery, these people are casting the exact enchantment, the same enchantment that they've all been casting for four years. 01:12:07.667 --> 01:12:11.489 The pieces change shape and move around, and pieces are added and moved as you're trying to solve the puzzle. 01:12:12.150 --> 01:12:23.277 There are also several factors that can influence the success of an origin investigation, including the passage of time, the biology, epidemiology of the specific pathogen, limited scientific knowledge about novel pathogens, local and national politics, economic considerations. 01:12:23.777 --> 01:12:26.179 We saw each of these factors at play in Wuhan in 2019 and 2020. 01:12:26.999 --> 01:12:31.842 Indeed, we see similar factors at play in the response to the current H5N1 outbreak in the United States as well. 01:12:32.242 --> 01:12:42.489 The key point to determine the origin of an outbreak or a biological incident is scientifically complex, but can also be politically fraught and subject to countervailing pressures by other actors with an interest in obscuring or delaying or halting the outcome of an investigation. 01:12:43.149 --> 01:12:45.811 So what should be done to improve our ability to determine the origins of a biological incident? 01:12:46.471 --> 01:12:51.595 I recommend that this Congress, working with the Biden administration, invest in strengthening biosurveillance and biorisk management in the United States and internationally. 01:12:52.035 --> 01:13:00.320 This will not only enhance our ability to determine the origins of future incidents, but also improve our capabilities to prevent them and respond more successfully to prevent an outbreak from becoming a pandemic. 01:13:00.901 --> 01:13:08.546 Biosurveillance in the United States suffers from fragmentation, chronic underinvestment in state and local public health capacity, and the lack of capacity to rapidly develop and deploy diagnostics. 01:13:09.206 --> 01:13:11.768 In my written statement, I provide further recommendations about biosurveillance. 01:13:11.788 --> 01:13:16.011 In the interest of time, I'll get just to the recommendations on biorisk management. 01:13:16.691 --> 01:13:21.596 And this is a field that encompasses field and laboratory biosafety, laboratory biosecurity, and oversight of dual-use research. 01:13:22.236 --> 01:13:33.787 Even if the origins of COVID-19 is proven to be the result of a natural zoonotic spillover event, the pandemic raised important questions about the efficacy of our oversight of dual-use research of concern, including with pathogens with enhanced transmissibility or virulence. 01:13:35.343 --> 01:13:39.608 The pandemic has also dramatically illustrated the consequences if such a pathogen escapes from a lab and sparks a pandemic. 01:13:40.088 --> 01:13:45.314 Regardless of one's views on the origin of the pandemic, we should all be able to agree that we want to minimize the risk that a future pandemic could be caused by laboratory action. 01:13:45.334 --> 01:13:49.198 We should all be able to agree that we don't want pandemics from laboratories. 01:13:49.278 --> 01:13:50.980 Come on guys, be reasonable here. 01:13:54.733 --> 01:13:56.093 Last month, the Biden administration released a new U.S. 01:13:56.113 --> 01:14:01.835 government policy to focus on the dual-use research concern, which represents a significant step forward in oversight of high-consequence research. 01:14:01.855 --> 01:14:05.096 There are two immediate steps that Congress could take to enhance implementation of this policy. 01:14:05.616 --> 01:14:12.218 First, Congress could support the Biden administration's efforts to provide education and training to the wide array of stakeholders who are now going to be affected by this policy. 01:14:12.718 --> 01:14:21.520 This policy now covers 95 biological agents and toxins, up from 14, so there's a much wider swath of the biological community that's now going to be subject to oversight, and they need to understand this policy in order to implement it effectively. 01:14:22.137 --> 01:14:32.106 Congress also needs to pass legislation to close a loophole in the current policy that allows privately funded research, including that with engineering of pathogens, to continue without any oversight. 01:14:32.487 --> 01:14:34.669 And I think it's in the power of Congress to solve that fairly easily. 01:14:35.486 --> 01:14:37.447 Over the longer term, Congress needs to modernize the U.S. 01:14:37.467 --> 01:14:38.707 bio-risk management system. 01:14:39.528 --> 01:14:47.771 I think the most effective way to do that would be creation of an independent federal agency that would be responsible for bio-risk management across both publicly and privately funded enterprises. 01:14:48.551 --> 01:14:59.656 In conclusion, we know enough about the two different pathways to a pandemic, both the demonstrated route of natural transmission, the potential for laboratory accident, that we have enough information now that we can take action that will significantly reduce the risk posed by both types of risks. 01:14:59.876 --> 01:15:00.056 Thank you. 01:15:01.462 --> 01:15:02.103 Thank you, Dr. Koblitz. 01:15:02.423 --> 01:15:04.865 Our second witness is Dr. Robert Gehry. 01:15:05.305 --> 01:15:11.470 He is a professor of microbiology and immunology and an associate dean for biomedical sciences at Tulane School of Medicine. 01:15:11.890 --> 01:15:20.717 Dr. Gehry has been a professor of virology for over 40 years and has performed groundbreaking work in diagnostics for emerging pathogens, including the Ebola virus. 01:15:21.077 --> 01:15:22.138 Dr. Gehry, welcome to the committee. 01:15:22.178 --> 01:15:24.060 You are now recognized for your opening statement. 01:15:25.026 --> 01:15:25.567 Thank you very much. 01:15:26.108 --> 01:15:32.617 Chairman Peters, Ranking Member Paul, distinguished members of the Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, thank you for inviting me to testify today. 01:15:33.726 --> 01:15:38.167 As Chairman Peters says, I'm a professor and associate dean at Tulane School of Medicine in New Orleans. 01:15:38.667 --> 01:15:45.289 And the reason you may know me is because I'm an author on a peer-reviewed paper that appeared in Nature Medicine entitled The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2. 01:15:45.509 --> 01:15:51.170 In the possible origins paper, my co-authors and I discussed several different possible origins of SARS-CoV-2. 01:15:51.750 --> 01:15:57.932 The three possible origins for the virus that are most relevant to today's discussion are, one, direct spillover from a bat to a human. 01:15:58.797 --> 01:16:02.042 Two, spillover from a bat to an intermediate animal and then to a human. 01:16:02.523 --> 01:16:03.785 And three, lab origin. 01:16:05.103 --> 01:16:10.464 At the time of writing the proximal origin paper in early February to mid-March 2020, we did not rule out any of these three pathways. 01:16:11.044 --> 01:16:18.245 Based on the current available evidence, I believe that the most plausible origin of SARS-CoV-2 is spillover from a bat to an intermediate animal and then to a human. 01:16:18.825 --> 01:16:25.187 I further believe the available evidence indicates that the spillover happened naturally, likely at the Annan Seafood Market in Wuhan, China. 01:16:25.907 --> 01:16:32.728 I do not believe that the available scientific evidence, when considered holistically, supports that the virus was created in a lab at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. 01:16:33.584 --> 01:16:44.647 However, I am first and foremost a scientist, and I will adhere to the scientific method, so I will continue to evaluate new evidence and reassess the validity of my scientific hypotheses regarding the origins of SARS-CoV-2. 01:16:45.267 --> 01:16:53.389 I look forward to continuing the scientific debate and peer-reviewed materials with other scientists, including those here today, regarding our different perspectives and interpretations of the evidence. 01:16:53.929 --> 01:17:00.491 That said, I'm heartened by the attention this committee is giving to a very timely and important topic, gain-of-function research. 01:17:00.931 --> 01:17:07.943 I welcome this opportunity to engage in an open and constructive conversation about the risk and benefits and appropriate safeguards and restrictions on this research. 01:17:09.235 --> 01:17:12.936 As Chairman Peters mentioned again before, I've been a virology professor for over 40 years. 01:17:13.557 --> 01:17:16.117 I've seen firsthand the damage that emerging viruses can cause. 01:17:16.598 --> 01:17:24.240 I researched HIV before we knew the profound impacts this emerging virus would have on all of society, and while the American public was still fearful of blood transfusions. 01:17:24.860 --> 01:17:32.283 I was present in Sierra Leone at the outbreak of Ebola in 2014 and witnessed the death toll and heartbreak, including many close friends and colleagues who succumbed. 01:17:32.563 --> 01:17:38.970 I'm currently developing countermeasures to Lassa virus, a deadly hemorrhagic fever virus with up to 70% case fatality. 01:17:39.611 --> 01:17:44.076 So I understand, perhaps better than most, the importance of assuring appropriate safeguards for research. 01:17:44.096 --> 01:17:51.704 Now, I really, I really think it's important to understand that if Ebola and Lassa fever and these other things are just testing a synthetic 01:17:52.745 --> 01:18:03.708 construct of transfection or transformation, maybe even a self-replicating construct, it still wouldn't constitute virology if you start with synthetic DNA or RNA, right? 01:18:03.748 --> 01:18:11.590 Even if it's modeled after a signal or signals that they found in the wild, these things are synthetic constructs. 01:18:12.530 --> 01:18:21.272 And we have been made to believe that transformation and transfection of animals or cell culture is legitimate virology, and I don't think it is. 01:18:22.674 --> 01:18:24.295 But it definitely does stuff. 01:18:24.475 --> 01:18:29.697 The cells definitely do things with the DNA and the RNA that you put on them or put in them. 01:18:30.377 --> 01:18:33.318 It has effects on the animals that you put it on or in. 01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:36.119 That's indisputable. 01:18:37.440 --> 01:18:48.424 And because Kevin McKernan and lots of other people have taught us how the price of sequencing and the price of making synthetic DNA up to 2,000 bases at a time has become peanuts. 01:18:49.765 --> 01:18:52.006 It seems kind of crazy to ignore that. 01:18:52.998 --> 01:18:56.961 Because it's only molecular data on which this whole story is based. 01:18:57.422 --> 01:19:02.866 And not only just the story of the pandemic, but the story of RNA virology in general. 01:19:07.430 --> 01:19:13.995 Which is why I'm kind of stunned that the no virus people haven't been able to get farther with their message. 01:19:17.079 --> 01:19:23.261 which is kind of stunning that they still want to antagonize me and not Robert Malone. 01:19:23.721 --> 01:19:26.883 They still want to antagonize me, but not Judy Mikovits. 01:19:28.403 --> 01:19:39.347 You'd think Robert Malone and Judy Mikovits would be their two most, most like hammered people on the internet because those are the people with a million followers. 01:19:39.407 --> 01:19:44.509 Those are the people with hundreds of thousands of followers that are perpetuating this exact narrative. 01:19:45.270 --> 01:19:47.892 where all of these scenarios are possible and more. 01:19:49.833 --> 01:19:53.535 Latent viruses are possible that can get activated by other viruses. 01:19:55.997 --> 01:20:00.560 And so why do they spend so much time on a guy with 3,000 followers on Twitter? 01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:11.387 Why do they spend so much time when I'm the one who was trying to unite CHD and them under this common idea of transfection and transformation being the basis of all virology? 01:20:12.699 --> 01:20:16.803 Even if at the time when I wrote that letter, I couldn't say it as succinctly as I just did. 01:20:18.464 --> 01:20:19.905 They didn't try to help me out. 01:20:21.006 --> 01:20:23.649 They didn't try to help anyone get to them. 01:20:26.431 --> 01:20:28.593 And that's what I find very odd about them. 01:20:28.653 --> 01:20:32.296 They just haven't managed to use Mark Bailey for who he is. 01:20:32.356 --> 01:20:38.802 They haven't managed to spread that message in a useful way that they murdered people to lie about it, to cover that up. 01:20:40.233 --> 01:20:42.615 They haven't even mentioned Dave Resnick's name once. 01:20:45.277 --> 01:20:50.621 I think that's a huge oversight on their part that can't be seen as just, well, they're in New Zealand. 01:21:02.531 --> 01:21:03.692 Add to put oversight offending. 01:21:04.591 --> 01:21:16.366 rules and guidelines regarding study design, including the types of viruses that require oversight, and universal standards for the use of appropriate protective gear when handling highly transmissible or pathogenic viruses in the laboratory or in field studies. 01:21:17.534 --> 01:21:23.238 But I also know the vital role of responsibly performed research, including on highly transmissible and pathogenic viruses. 01:21:23.538 --> 01:21:26.060 It advances public health and national security. 01:21:26.701 --> 01:21:29.423 Without gain-of-function research, we'd have no Tamiflu. 01:21:30.043 --> 01:21:36.068 Without gain-of-function research, we wouldn't have a vaccine to prevent cancer caused by infection by the human papillomavirus. 01:21:36.108 --> 01:21:39.990 And without gain-of-function research, we won't be able to identify how novel viruses infect us. 01:21:40.251 --> 01:21:45.374 And if we don't know how they infect us, we cannot develop appropriate treatments and cures for the next potential pandemic-creating virus. 01:21:46.255 --> 01:21:51.898 So I also encourage the committee to empower the scientific enterprise to address the certainty of viral threats that emerge from nature in the future. 01:21:52.538 --> 01:21:56.520 For example, potential pandemic viruses can infiltrate commercial animal farming industries. 01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:01.542 The wildlife trade in China was the only enterprise in the world comparable in size to the United States cattle industry. 01:22:02.330 --> 01:22:09.252 multiple spillovers of SARS-CoV, the first SARS, occurred in 2002 through 2004 and they came from the Chinese wildlife trade. 01:22:09.872 --> 01:22:15.614 Evidence similarly indicates that this likely happened again with SARS-CoV-2 in 2019. 01:22:16.255 --> 01:22:20.196 I hope we treat these incidents as a stark and timely reminder that this can happen anywhere in the world. 01:22:21.016 --> 01:22:26.120 In fact, it's happening right in our backyard with the serious threat from bird flu that it poses to our. 01:22:26.540 --> 01:22:27.701 Oh, come on. 01:22:28.262 --> 01:22:29.242 Come on, man. 01:22:29.723 --> 01:22:32.565 Center for Research in Emerging Infectious Diseases or Creed Network. 01:22:32.885 --> 01:22:35.487 I know that gain of function research can be done responsibly and safely. 01:22:35.927 --> 01:22:40.311 The new guidance from the Office of Science Technology Policy shows that research with high risk pathogens 01:22:41.051 --> 01:22:44.694 I assume Rixey's sitting on Huff's lap, otherwise you wouldn't be able to see Rixey. 01:22:45.515 --> 01:22:46.175 I assume that. 01:22:46.195 --> 01:22:51.219 The types of experiments that require review can be clearly defined in a way that does not obstruct low-risk research. 01:22:51.879 --> 01:23:04.809 I'm honored to be a part of this important conversation that will help define the future of a vitally important area of virology, and I urge the members of this committee to find a path forward that permits appropriate gain-of-function research to continue to help ensure our public health and national security. 01:23:04.909 --> 01:23:07.131 I mean, that's another very easy question, right? 01:23:07.171 --> 01:23:13.335 Even if you don't want to throw out all of virology, it could just easily be that SARS, SARS one never went away. 01:23:13.375 --> 01:23:15.256 They just told us they're testing for it again. 01:23:15.316 --> 01:23:29.706 I mean, even that possibility hasn't really been adequately ruled out by any of these people, except for by molecular data, which can be made for pennies on the dollar now, compared to even 10 years ago, maybe even, 01:23:30.950 --> 01:23:33.811 pennies on the hundreds or thousands of dollars now. 01:23:33.891 --> 01:23:35.312 So I mean, this is a joke to me. 01:23:36.252 --> 01:23:45.276 David Artis gave a real interesting presentation at the Red Pill Conference where he talked about how much venom they're making and how they're making it kinda, but not really. 01:23:46.457 --> 01:23:53.159 He could have also told them that all of this technology is based on the really easy manufacture of a lot of pure DNA. 01:23:53.660 --> 01:23:59.242 All of it, monoclonal antibodies and the mRNA shots and the adenovirus and making venom. 01:24:01.124 --> 01:24:06.267 And it all starts with the DNA, which is the gold standard for PCR testing and sequencing. 01:24:06.327 --> 01:24:30.884 So if the cheapest thing to make in the molecular biology molecule chain is the DNA, and the DNA is the most stable, and the DNA works the best for PCR, and the DNA works the best for sequencing, then how in the hell are we bitching about it and pretending that it's the end of this narrative that's the most important to talk about when all of these technologies start with recombinant DNA? 01:24:34.448 --> 01:24:37.952 It's extraordinary to me that nobody got here before me. 01:24:40.134 --> 01:24:50.486 The only conclusion I can come to is that everybody that's been purporting to try and get here before me is either not very bright or not genuine. 01:24:53.137 --> 01:25:10.128 Because only the people that talked about AIDS during the time of AIDS, and only the few people that came out against swine flu, like Wolfgang Wodach, have been able to adequately enunciate this essential fraud that's here, and that they would murder people and lie about it. 01:25:14.651 --> 01:25:15.691 Thank you, Dr. Gary. 01:25:15.751 --> 01:25:18.073 Our next two witnesses will be introduced by Ranking Member Paul. 01:25:19.542 --> 01:25:21.104 Stephen Quay is an MD, PhD. 01:25:21.304 --> 01:25:26.649 He's the CEO of Atosa Therapeutics, a clinical stage biopharmaceutical company developing novel therapeutics for oncology. 01:25:27.150 --> 01:25:32.055 Dr. Quay has authored 400 publications in the field of medicine, including 32 on the origin of SARS-CoV-2. 01:25:32.615 --> 01:25:36.579 His work has been cited over 12,000 times, placing him in the top 1% of scientists worldwide. 01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:40.263 His paper, a Bayesian analysis, concludes beyond a reasonable doubt 01:25:40.623 --> 01:25:44.046 that SARS-CoV-2 is not a natural zoonosis, but instead is laboratory derived. 01:25:44.427 --> 01:25:46.849 This article has been viewed over 206,000 times. 01:25:47.249 --> 01:25:48.110 Dr. Cui holds 238 U.S. 01:25:48.791 --> 01:25:53.975 patents and patent applications in 22 areas of medicine, including RNA chemistry, coronavirus therapeutics. 01:25:54.516 --> 01:25:58.119 Before his current role, he was a member of the Department of Pathology at the Stanford University School of Medicine. 01:25:58.479 --> 01:26:00.061 Dr. Cui, welcome to the committee. 01:26:00.181 --> 01:26:01.602 You are now recognized for your opening statement. 01:26:02.643 --> 01:26:03.184 Stanford. 01:26:03.874 --> 01:26:09.537 Committee Chair, Senator Peters, Ranking Member, Senator Paul, committee members, invited participants, ladies and gentlemen. 01:26:10.137 --> 01:26:16.701 I am a physician scientist and have a 50-year career spanning academic medical research, biotechnology, and scientific fraud investigation. 01:26:17.101 --> 01:26:18.742 My biography summarizes my career. 01:26:19.102 --> 01:26:21.263 I speak today, however, as an independent scientist. 01:26:21.703 --> 01:26:24.765 I do not receive any NIH or NIAID funding. 01:26:25.305 --> 01:26:32.149 Scientists dependent on NIH or NIAID funding may have pressure to publicly agree with orthodoxies that privately they admit are wrong. 01:26:33.010 --> 01:26:42.016 My approach to the COVID pandemic origin that killed 20 million plus people, caused $20 trillion in economic damage, is based on six approaches to the data and the events. 01:26:43.016 --> 01:26:50.601 I'll start with something Dr. Gehry said privately, quote, someone should tell nature, meaning the British Journal, that the fish market probably did not start the outbreak, end quote. 01:26:51.201 --> 01:26:52.002 I agree with Dr. Gehry. 01:26:52.771 --> 01:26:59.337 Unfortunately, one reason we are having these hearings is that the public statements of many virologists have not been congruent with their private conversations. 01:26:59.978 --> 01:27:06.764 In any case, I'll describe the six approaches to the question that all support a lab leak as a source and can go deeper into each of those with questions. 01:27:07.265 --> 01:27:13.771 First, the virus was spreading in Wuhan and around the world in the fall of 2019, months before the first case in the Hunan seafood market. 01:27:14.171 --> 01:27:16.514 This is supported by 14 observations or evidence. 01:27:16.994 --> 01:27:31.727 The evidence includes the calculation of the time to the most recent common ancestor, hospital overloads in Wuhan, antibodies in patients from Italy, Spain, and the US, wastewater samples from Brazil, sick athletes at the October Wuhan military games, school closings in Wuhan, and dozens of documented patients. 01:27:32.108 --> 01:27:33.749 This dismisses out of hand the market. 01:27:33.950 --> 01:27:36.592 All that molecular data could have been created for pennies. 01:27:37.052 --> 01:27:37.533 As the origin. 01:27:38.113 --> 01:27:39.533 But second, let's look at the market data. 01:27:39.873 --> 01:27:42.734 The human infections, the animal samples, and the environmental specimens. 01:27:43.014 --> 01:27:44.635 These generate eight observations. 01:27:45.535 --> 01:27:48.295 No infected animals in the market or the supply chain were infected. 01:27:48.776 --> 01:27:51.836 No infected wildlife vendors had SARS. 01:27:52.156 --> 01:27:57.838 All human infections are the non-ancestral lineage B. The environmental specimens with animal DNA have no SARS-2. 01:27:58.598 --> 01:28:03.499 One vendor had animals from southern China where SARS-2 came from, but this vendor and his animals are negative for SARS-2. 01:28:04.099 --> 01:28:10.206 Now only one of 14 environmental samples with raccoon dog DNA contains SARS reads and that contains one read. 01:28:10.547 --> 01:28:17.956 Don't forget we heard raccoon dog because there was a photo that Ed Holmes had taken a few years earlier that was included in that paper. 01:28:17.996 --> 01:28:18.697 It's extraordinary. 01:28:19.197 --> 01:28:19.618 Out of 210 million 01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:24.503 13 of the 14 raccoon dog DNA specimens had no SARS-2. 01:28:25.043 --> 01:28:27.346 With SARS-1, literally 100% of the market animals were infected. 01:28:27.826 --> 01:28:35.373 I frankly think it is shameful for scientists to mislead journals and the public, saying these data I just described are evidence raccoon dogs were infected with SARS-2. 01:28:35.413 --> 01:28:37.515 This is why trust in science is broken. 01:28:37.875 --> 01:28:41.499 None of these data are consistent with an infected animal passing SARS-2 to a human at the market. 01:28:42.399 --> 01:28:46.521 The 1,500-kilometer distance to the nearest SARS-2-related virus is like the distance from Washington, D.C. 01:28:46.541 --> 01:28:47.362 to the Florida Everglades. 01:28:47.782 --> 01:28:49.463 Imagine you're at dinner at a restaurant in North Africa. 01:28:49.543 --> 01:28:55.726 That's all molecular data, and now he's going to give you an analogy about what this molecular data supposedly showed. 01:28:56.026 --> 01:28:57.167 Near the NIAID labs. 01:28:57.407 --> 01:29:04.911 You get sick, and you are told that the virus you caught is only found in bats from the Everglades, but it also happens to be under study at the laboratories you see outside the restaurant window. 01:29:05.431 --> 01:29:07.272 That's what the market origin people are asking you to believe. 01:29:08.027 --> 01:29:16.295 Third, documented events at or related to Wuhan Institute of Virology beginning in March 2019 are consistent with the expected activities when a lab-acquired infection has occurred. 01:29:16.895 --> 01:29:24.923 These timelines include unusual attention from the Chinese Communist Party, leading to the PLA physician soldier being put in charge, large tender requests to repair biosafety equipment, 01:29:25.163 --> 01:29:27.044 A virus database disappearing in the middle of the night. 01:29:27.424 --> 01:29:31.826 Large tender requests for a lab security force to, quote, handle foreign personnel, end quote. 01:29:32.166 --> 01:29:34.507 Patents for a device to prevent a lab acquired infection. 01:29:34.828 --> 01:29:37.189 Rumors in the virology community of a new SARS virus in the lab. 01:29:37.729 --> 01:29:42.611 30 vials of the three most dangerous viruses on the planet being shipped illegally from a lab in Canada to WIV in March. 01:29:42.931 --> 01:29:46.493 And then one of those pathogens being found as a major contaminant in a BLSA lab in December. 01:29:46.633 --> 01:30:05.649 Now interestingly that story I believe is about a woman that Mark has done a story about who used to work for a guy by the name of Plummer up in Canada that was like the HIV expert up there and also she was developing some three antibody treatment for HIV. 01:30:06.965 --> 01:30:07.386 something. 01:30:08.146 --> 01:30:09.307 And Mark can tell you more. 01:30:10.148 --> 01:30:15.932 And then that lady was disappeared because of some viral, like espionage or some shit. 01:30:16.972 --> 01:30:18.653 So that's an interesting thing to drop. 01:30:18.693 --> 01:30:19.154 There it is. 01:30:20.254 --> 01:30:22.796 Xiangguo Xiao, or whatever her name is. 01:30:22.856 --> 01:30:23.657 Nice work, Mark. 01:30:24.858 --> 01:30:29.641 And feel free to drop in a link there of that episode or 10 or how many episodes you did on that. 01:30:30.100 --> 01:30:33.582 These events taken together are a classic example of closing the barn door after the horse has left. 01:30:34.182 --> 01:30:41.086 Fourth, the evidence that is found in a natural zoonosis with respect to the animal host, the virus, and the human are missing with COVID. 01:30:41.106 --> 01:30:44.447 96,000 animals were tested and are negative for SARS-2. 01:30:44.467 --> 01:30:46.348 43,000 blood samples from blood donors in Wuhan were tested. 01:30:46.548 --> 01:30:50.030 A natural spillover like SARS-1 would have produced about 260 positives. 01:30:50.550 --> 01:30:52.271 A lab accident would be zero. 01:30:52.291 --> 01:30:53.492 And of course, zero is what is found. 01:30:53.652 --> 01:30:57.499 Now remember that his Bayesian analysis is based on his priors, right? 01:30:57.539 --> 01:31:03.770 And so if his priors are bullshit, and the priors assume bullshit, then it's not going to give you anything. 01:31:03.810 --> 01:31:05.313 And that's basically what's happening here. 01:31:05.848 --> 01:31:09.351 With respect to the virus, a spillover produces posterior diversity in the virus genome. 01:31:09.771 --> 01:31:10.672 A virus does not. 01:31:10.712 --> 01:31:12.474 SARS-2 has no posterior diversity. 01:31:13.074 --> 01:31:15.836 Natural spillovers, as Dr. Gary indicated this morning, involve multiple markets. 01:31:16.077 --> 01:31:20.721 SARS-1 began in southern China at 11 spillovers in 11 different markets in nine different cities. 01:31:21.581 --> 01:31:27.146 Christian Anderson, the proximal origin of SARS-2, said SARS-2 was one person being infected with one animal. 01:31:27.466 --> 01:31:27.766 I agree. 01:31:28.527 --> 01:31:33.551 Fifth, the genome of SARS-2 has eight features found in a synthetic virus that are not found in natural viruses. 01:31:33.911 --> 01:31:37.554 The probability that SARS-2 came from nature based on these features is one in a billion. 01:31:37.975 --> 01:31:49.804 These features are the backbone, the receptor binding domain, the furin cleavage site, the genetics of the furin cleavage site, the number, location, and pattern of cloning sites in SARS-2 that use the Varric cloning method and the ORF8 gene. 01:31:50.224 --> 01:31:53.387 Based on SARS-2 cloning sites, I predicted how SARS-2 could be made in 01:31:53.427 --> 01:31:57.030 I'm not sure why the ORF8 gene is interesting. 01:31:57.070 --> 01:31:58.571 They found that in another virus. 01:31:58.691 --> 01:32:02.414 I know the paper, so I'm curious as to what that meant, but that's all right. 01:32:07.310 --> 01:32:10.871 These same features were described in a 2018 DARPA grant by WIV and U.S. 01:32:10.911 --> 01:32:11.292 scientists. 01:32:11.472 --> 01:32:26.657 With respect to the grant, SARS-2 had the proposed backbone from the proposed region in China, the proposed adaption to human killing, the proposed diversity from SARS-1, the proposed no-CM cleavage site number, location, and pattern, the proposed human cleavage site at the proposed S1, S2 junction. 01:32:27.758 --> 01:32:29.458 And so of course they did it. 01:32:30.258 --> 01:32:31.519 It is just so absurd. 01:32:32.699 --> 01:32:33.580 It's really absurd. 01:32:33.820 --> 01:32:34.040 I mean, 01:32:36.348 --> 01:32:48.751 We're supposed to believe that this is like a, I don't know if you're familiar with this story, Basic Instinct, but Basic Instinct is a story about an author that writes thrillers and then she writes thrillers that seem to come true. 01:32:49.331 --> 01:32:54.492 And then the cop that's trying to figure out whether he's in love with a murderer or he's in love with just some author. 01:32:55.272 --> 01:33:00.353 And this is like trying to pretend that, you know, 01:33:02.058 --> 01:33:11.080 EcoHealth Alliance is this virology lab that writes down exactly what they're going to do, and then it really happens, and then that's just it. 01:33:11.200 --> 01:33:12.181 Like, that's it. 01:33:12.781 --> 01:33:26.424 That fits together, and it's not the same thing as a psychopath when the whole story isn't based on whether somebody would lie about being a murderer, but instead the whole story is based on biology that's a lie. 01:33:28.100 --> 01:33:35.166 Because that's the difference between a Hollywood thriller about a psychopath and this thriller about psychopaths. 01:33:35.847 --> 01:33:41.411 Because the psychopath and their ability to hurt you is dependent on ridiculous biology. 01:33:41.471 --> 01:33:53.582 It's dependent on a mythology that these people have been orchestratedly working to instill into these young people for the last couple of decades and certainly ramped it up in the last four and a half years. 01:33:53.682 --> 01:33:54.563 Please see it. 01:33:55.711 --> 01:33:57.071 Let's close with a thought experiment. 01:33:57.111 --> 01:33:57.392 It's 2018. 01:33:57.432 --> 01:34:00.373 Do you think a market spillover of coronaviruses could have happened in Wuhan? 01:34:00.653 --> 01:34:03.534 Dr. Dasik and Shi have studied coronaviruses for a decade, and they said no. 01:34:03.954 --> 01:34:04.494 How do I know that? 01:34:04.854 --> 01:34:10.416 Because they used Wuhan residents as control for a study looking for antibodies in coronaviruses in people living near bat caves in southern China. 01:34:10.696 --> 01:34:12.297 The rural residents had a 3% rate. 01:34:12.337 --> 01:34:13.337 Wuhan residents had zero. 01:34:13.817 --> 01:34:16.079 Let's flip that and ask the reverse question. 01:34:16.119 --> 01:34:31.513 Do you think a lab-acquired infection could begin in Wuhan, a city with the world's leading laboratory collecting coronavirus from nature, doing synthetic biology on coronaviruses, doing petri dish and animal research on coronavirus with a bat colony for testing, and that had written a blueprint to make a coronavirus that had seven unique features found in SARS-CoV-2? 01:34:32.253 --> 01:34:33.374 I'll let you answer that question yourself. 01:34:33.834 --> 01:34:38.977 I have a number of specific reforms I believe should be implemented, and I would be happy to discuss them during the questioning. 01:34:39.357 --> 01:34:40.978 What happens if we have these hearings and nothing happens? 01:34:41.398 --> 01:34:45.181 The Wuhan Institute of Virology right now is testing a Nipah virus in a synthetic clone. 01:34:45.341 --> 01:34:48.643 This is a US CDC bioterrorism agent. 01:34:48.663 --> 01:34:50.004 It kills three out of four people. 01:34:50.424 --> 01:34:56.207 A lab leak with an airborne Nipah virus would quickly, within weeks, disrupt food and energy distribution, fire and police services, medical care. 01:34:56.647 --> 01:34:59.869 My analysis of this tipping point event is that it would set back civilization about 250 years. 01:35:01.090 --> 01:35:02.231 The work of this committee is critical. 01:35:02.571 --> 01:35:06.794 If we now fail to act with the knowledge we have history, if it can still be recorded, we'll judge us poorly. 01:35:07.034 --> 01:35:07.835 Thank you for your time. 01:35:10.151 --> 01:35:12.372 Holy crap, did he just say what I heard him say? 01:35:12.592 --> 01:35:17.035 It can still be set back so quickly that it should be implemented, and I would be happy to discuss them during the questioning. 01:35:17.395 --> 01:35:19.016 What happens if we have these hearings and nothing happens? 01:35:19.417 --> 01:35:23.159 The Wuhan Institute of Virology right now is testing a Nipah virus in a synthetic clone. 01:35:23.319 --> 01:35:24.479 This is a U.S. 01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:26.621 CDC bioterrorism agent. 01:35:26.641 --> 01:35:27.982 It kills three out of four people. 01:35:28.402 --> 01:35:34.065 A lab leak with an airborne Nipah virus would quickly, within weeks, disrupt food and energy distribution, fire and police services, medical care. 01:35:34.525 --> 01:35:37.747 My analysis of this tipping point event is that it would set back civilization about 250 years. 01:35:38.948 --> 01:35:40.109 The work of this committee is critical. 01:35:40.469 --> 01:35:42.571 If we now fail to act with the knowledge we have history. 01:35:42.811 --> 01:35:46.633 It would set back humanity 250 years. 01:35:46.773 --> 01:35:49.215 And he did say a synthetic clone. 01:35:50.376 --> 01:35:51.997 But then realize what that means. 01:35:52.097 --> 01:35:55.319 It's not a Nipah virus that grows by itself. 01:35:56.820 --> 01:36:03.665 It's not a Nipah virus that they found in whole and then it just, you know, they filled tubes with it. 01:36:05.267 --> 01:36:08.068 This is a synthetic molecular construct. 01:36:08.128 --> 01:36:19.411 If that synthetic molecular construct is capable of self-replication for a little while in a transformation or transfection setting, then yes, we might have a problem, but we do not have a pandemic. 01:36:22.412 --> 01:36:27.914 And we will never have a pandemic unless they make large quantities of these things and then distribute them. 01:36:29.113 --> 01:36:32.456 That would be a real pandemic that they could make if they wanted to. 01:36:33.016 --> 01:36:44.426 But the idea that they could leak something or release something in one place and find it all over the place in a couple more years, irrespective of what they do with that sequence, that cannot happen. 01:36:44.466 --> 01:36:46.047 They are not pattern integrities. 01:36:47.048 --> 01:36:49.050 But they can be made in pure quantities. 01:36:50.331 --> 01:36:55.896 And we have been building factories around the world that are capable of making these pure quantities of DNA and RNA. 01:36:57.338 --> 01:37:00.980 Not just for shots, of course, but for whatever the hell they want to use it for. 01:37:03.701 --> 01:37:05.362 Including transfecting us all. 01:37:07.363 --> 01:37:08.924 That's not impossible. 01:37:10.065 --> 01:37:19.270 It is far more possible than any RNA virus, any RNA molecule in particular, being able to pull off such a stunt because that can't happen. 01:37:20.750 --> 01:37:22.571 If it can still be recorded, we'll judge us poorly. 01:37:22.792 --> 01:37:23.612 Thank you for your time. 01:37:30.499 --> 01:37:30.839 Thank you. 01:37:31.120 --> 01:37:33.542 Professor of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Rutgers University. 01:37:33.962 --> 01:37:38.626 He also serves as the Laboratory Director for the Waxman Institute of Microbiology, a position he has held for 37 years. 01:37:39.066 --> 01:37:44.271 Dr. Ebright has authored over 185 peer-reviewed publications and holds more than 45 issued and pending U.S. 01:37:44.311 --> 01:37:44.651 patents. 01:37:45.051 --> 01:37:52.458 He's the co-founder of Biosafety Now and a member of the advisory board of the Global Biolabs Project and the Institutional Biosafety Committee at Rutgers University. 01:37:52.998 --> 01:38:03.383 Previously, he served on the Antimicrobial Resistance Committee for Infectious Disease Society of America, the Controlling Dangerous Pathogens Project, and the Pathogen Security Working Group for the State of New Jersey. 01:38:03.723 --> 01:38:05.344 Dr. Ebright, welcome to the committee. 01:38:05.364 --> 01:38:06.825 You are now recognized for your opening statement. 01:38:08.069 --> 01:38:14.132 Chairman Peters, Ranking Member Paul, and members of the committee, thank you for inviting me to discuss the origins of COVID-19. 01:38:14.532 --> 01:38:20.315 I am Board of Governors Professor of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Rutgers University and Laboratory Director at the Waxman Institute of Microbiology. 01:38:20.855 --> 01:38:25.998 In my statement, I will present my assessment of the origin of COVID and will summarize key lines of evidence that support my assessment. 01:38:26.775 --> 01:38:33.298 I assess that a large preponderance of evidence indicates SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID, entered humans through a research incident. 01:38:33.938 --> 01:38:46.303 I base this assessment on information in publicly available documents, press reports, and scientific papers, on my research experience in microbial genomics, microbial genetics, DNA synthesis technology, and recombinant DNA technology, and on my knowledge. 01:38:46.644 --> 01:38:49.905 Holy shit, it just dawned on me that this is Richard Ebert. 01:38:51.789 --> 01:38:54.191 I feel like I should be getting a movie review in a second. 01:38:54.251 --> 01:38:55.572 What in the hell is going on? 01:38:55.632 --> 01:38:56.713 That's uncanny. 01:38:57.874 --> 01:38:59.155 That is uncanny. 01:39:00.256 --> 01:39:01.477 What is going on here? 01:39:03.418 --> 01:39:09.083 Somebody at the Red Pill Conference actually told me they thought Robin Williams was the president of Brazil, and I just about dropped. 01:39:09.503 --> 01:39:10.624 But this is funny. 01:39:12.025 --> 01:39:14.867 He had two thumbs down. 01:39:15.367 --> 01:39:16.368 That's fantastic. 01:39:16.388 --> 01:39:20.511 I have an experience with biosafety, biosecurity, and biorisk management for work with pathogens. 01:39:21.385 --> 01:39:23.186 Four key facts support my assessment. 01:39:23.426 --> 01:39:31.051 First, COVID emerged in Wuhan, a city that is 800 miles from the closest bats harboring SARS-CoV-2-like viruses that could have served as progenitors of SARS-CoV-2. 01:39:31.611 --> 01:39:43.758 But that contains lab that prior to the outbreak were conducting the world's largest research program on bat SARS viruses, possessed the world's largest collection of bat SARS viruses, and possessed the virus most closely similar to SARS-CoV-2. 01:39:44.679 --> 01:39:50.441 The large distance between Wuhan and bats harboring SARS-CoV-2-like viruses points away from a natural origin of COVID. 01:39:50.881 --> 01:39:56.843 And Wuhan's status as the global epicenter of research on bat SARS viruses points toward a research origin of COVID. 01:39:57.563 --> 01:40:11.688 Second, in the four years preceding the outbreak, Wuhan labs performed research that placed them on a trajectory to obtain SARS viruses, having high... I think he's speaking on this because he's been a part of the national security state for his 35 years as the head of that microbiology institute. 01:40:12.168 --> 01:40:13.750 I think that's what's happening here. 01:40:13.810 --> 01:40:15.551 That's what you're starting to realize, right? 01:40:15.992 --> 01:40:21.116 They just have to have enough and then the rest can be useful idiots that are taught by these mentors. 01:40:21.156 --> 01:40:23.919 So these mentors just teach them in a way that they can never see it. 01:40:23.979 --> 01:40:27.061 It's very hard to see through coordinated liars. 01:40:28.062 --> 01:40:28.882 pandemic potential. 01:40:29.782 --> 01:40:37.844 And in 2018, one year before the outbreak, Wuhan Labs proposed research to obtain SARS viruses having even higher pandemic potential and features that match in detail. 01:40:38.145 --> 01:40:43.366 Because these guys said pandemic potential exists for 15 years, pandemic potential exists. 01:40:43.846 --> 01:40:48.827 Because these guys have been saying they're trying to make pandemic potential for 15 years, obviously it exists. 01:40:49.207 --> 01:40:52.448 Because the diffuse proposal says they did it, obviously they did it. 01:40:54.414 --> 01:41:04.162 And all they needed to do was make the sequence, which they can do for pennies on the dollar, and then call it molecular data from the very start till the very end. 01:41:05.022 --> 01:41:18.113 And have people like Kevin McKernan available on the internet since April 24th, 2020, talking about the molecular data and being molecular data experts in the PCR space. 01:41:25.956 --> 01:41:29.218 I think what you see here is the start of the end of this whole charade. 01:41:29.278 --> 01:41:34.500 These people and their coordinated lying is about to end in a very dramatic way. 01:41:35.660 --> 01:41:48.226 As one by one people, once you see them and how they're all related to each other, and I mean even the people that you thought were your friends on some of these organizations, they're all on the same team. 01:41:49.647 --> 01:41:51.168 Merrill Nass is on his team. 01:41:52.608 --> 01:41:54.069 Mary Holland is on his team. 01:41:55.438 --> 01:41:58.000 Probably Catherine Austen Fitz is on his team. 01:41:59.702 --> 01:42:07.289 They are all part of the governing elite or work for the governing elite that are controlled demolishing the American Republic. 01:42:08.751 --> 01:42:13.255 Ruining what was the American culture that I believed in growing up when I was a kid. 01:42:14.556 --> 01:42:19.541 That I would have fought for if my dad wouldn't have told me to just go to school. 01:42:23.700 --> 01:42:25.462 And that's not saying anything against my dad. 01:42:25.482 --> 01:42:34.572 I'm thanking my dad for having protected me from that notion of becoming a pilot or something like that in the Navy or in the Army or wherever I would have maybe done it. 01:42:35.413 --> 01:42:36.734 I thought about it for a little while. 01:42:40.438 --> 01:42:41.379 Features of SARS-CoV-2. 01:42:41.439 --> 01:42:43.221 Wuhan labs performed. 01:42:43.481 --> 01:42:45.564 But that it's not just I mean, I'm 01:42:47.176 --> 01:42:54.378 Obviously, everybody that goes into the Army is making it or into the service is making a very significant commitment to that American ideal. 01:42:55.158 --> 01:42:56.438 And so I'm not belittling it. 01:42:58.019 --> 01:43:04.840 And I think there are a lot of people that have served that might not agree with my dad, but my dad served, his dad served. 01:43:06.381 --> 01:43:10.061 He told me that if I was going to serve, I should serve in the Air Force because at least you always get a bed. 01:43:15.868 --> 01:43:18.650 I don't know if I could tell my sons to go and serve now. 01:43:19.911 --> 01:43:25.094 And that's already a very undermining idea to the American system, right? 01:43:25.114 --> 01:43:29.537 An undermining idea to the American Republic and probably by design. 01:43:32.458 --> 01:43:36.441 It depresses me a lot to see Richard Ebert here doing his thing. 01:43:37.793 --> 01:43:41.316 high-risk virus discovery and gain-of-function research on bat SARS viruses. 01:43:42.016 --> 01:43:50.503 In their virus discovery research, Wuhan researchers searched for new bat viruses in caves in southern China, brought samples to Wuhan, and sequenced, cultured, and characterized new viruses in Wuhan. 01:43:50.903 --> 01:44:04.814 So that's the drastic, you know, the data that drastic got in while I was still part of drastic had to do with this bat cave and three guys getting sick and the army being called in and them sampling them and then also pushing 01:44:05.370 --> 01:44:07.151 for more sampling from the same cave. 01:44:07.251 --> 01:44:19.776 So all this story was revealed through drastic during the time when I was still being thoroughly brainwashed into accepting the Scooby-Doo narrative and that I was soon gonna be a hero having solved that it was a lab-leak gain-of-function virus. 01:44:20.257 --> 01:44:34.403 In their gain-of-function research, Wuhan researchers genetically modified bat SARS viruses, constructing viruses having enhanced ability to infect human cells and having enhanced viral growth and enhanced lethality in mice engineered to possess human receptors for SARS viruses, so-called humanized mice. 01:44:35.223 --> 01:44:43.188 Already in 2015, scientists expressed concern that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was conducting research that posed unacceptably high risk. 01:44:43.208 --> 01:44:56.295 At a 2015 Royal Society and National Academies meeting on gain-of-function research and its oversight, the research on bat SARS viruses by the Wuhan Institute of Virology and its collaborators was singled out as the research most likely of all research in the world to trigger a pandemic. 01:44:57.075 --> 01:45:09.283 In 2017 to 2018, with NIH funding, the Wuhan Institute of Virology constructed genetically modified SARS viruses that combined the spike gene from one bat SARS virus with the rest of the genetic information from another bat SARS virus. 01:45:10.265 --> 01:45:25.491 obtaining new viruses that efficiently infected human cells, and obtaining at least one new virus that exhibited 10,000 times enhanced viral growth in lungs, and 1 million times enhanced viral growth in brains, and three times enhanced lethality in humanized mice. 01:45:25.511 --> 01:45:26.212 Well, I got to go back. 01:45:26.232 --> 01:45:26.912 That's way too good. 01:45:26.932 --> 01:45:27.412 That's way too good. 01:45:27.432 --> 01:45:27.812 Hold on. 01:45:27.832 --> 01:45:30.934 At a 2015 Royal Society and National Academies meeting on gain-of-function research and its oversight, 01:45:36.656 --> 01:45:44.719 The research on bat SARS viruses by the Wuhan Institute of Virology and its collaborators was singled out as the research most likely of all research in the world to trigger a pandemic. 01:45:45.479 --> 01:46:01.526 In 2017 to 2018, with NIH funding, the Wuhan Institute of Virology constructed genetically modified SARS viruses that combined the spike gene from one bat SARS virus with the rest of the genetic information from another bat SARS virus, obtaining new viruses that efficiently infected human cells. 01:46:01.766 --> 01:46:02.626 How did they do that? 01:46:02.746 --> 01:46:04.527 Through synthetic manufacture. 01:46:05.970 --> 01:46:06.350 That's it. 01:46:06.430 --> 01:46:07.230 They just made them. 01:46:07.850 --> 01:46:10.691 They say they found a sequence, then they made lots of it. 01:46:11.391 --> 01:46:14.972 So if they lie about finding it, then they could just be testing bioweapons. 01:46:15.012 --> 01:46:26.074 They could just be testing interesting genes that they hypothesize might be useful in a self-replicating transfection or transformation agent. 01:46:26.114 --> 01:46:29.094 And they could be telling you they're doing virology right in your face. 01:46:29.594 --> 01:46:32.795 They're just testing this shit on us and calling it virology. 01:46:35.387 --> 01:46:39.931 And that would be a great reason why the no-virus people would be very focused on no-virus. 01:46:40.011 --> 01:46:43.734 Because you don't want to know what it actually is. 01:46:45.616 --> 01:46:47.398 I think we're getting close, ladies and gentlemen. 01:46:47.418 --> 01:46:49.960 It's starting to feel like that might be actually it. 01:46:54.684 --> 01:46:57.767 I had that feeling about a year and a half ago already, very strongly. 01:46:57.787 --> 01:46:59.929 And then I kind of let it pass over me. 01:47:00.909 --> 01:47:02.090 And now it's coming back again. 01:47:03.038 --> 01:47:15.786 and obtaining at least one new virus that exhibited 10,000 times enhanced viral growth in lungs, and 1 million times enhanced viral growth in brains, and three times enhanced lethality in humanized mice. 01:47:16.067 --> 01:47:29.636 In 2018, just one year before the outbreak, in an NIH grant proposal, the Wuhan Institute of Virology and collaborators proposed to construct additional genetically modified SARS viruses, proposing to construct viruses having spikes with even higher binding affinities for human SARS receptors, seeking viruses having even higher 01:47:30.236 --> 01:47:30.976 pandemic potential. 01:47:31.517 --> 01:47:45.022 Also in 2018, just one year before the outbreak, in a DARPA grant proposal, the Wuhan Institute of Virology and its collaborators proposed to construct genetically modified SARS viruses having a furin cleavage site, a feature associated with increased viral growth and increased transmissibility. 01:47:45.242 --> 01:47:55.427 They proposed to insert the furin cleavage site at the spike gene S1-S2 border and to construct the viruses by synthesizing six nucleic acid building blocks and assembling them using the reagent ESMB1. 01:47:56.789 --> 01:48:08.339 Third, Wuhan labs performed this research on SARS viruses using an inadequate biosafety standard, just biosafety level two, and inadequate personal protective equipment, just gloves and a lab coat. 01:48:08.980 --> 01:48:13.724 Lab accidents that result in infectional release are common, even at biosafety levels higher than biosafety level two. 01:48:14.204 --> 01:48:19.248 For context, the original SARS virus, SARS-CoV-1, caused lab-acquired infections 01:48:19.989 --> 01:48:26.732 in Singapore at biosafety level 3, in Beijing twice at biosafety level 3, and in Taipei at biosafety level 4. 01:48:26.992 --> 01:48:37.517 For further context, SARS-CoV-2 itself caused lab-acquired infections in Beijing in 2020 at biosafety level 3, and in Taipei in 2021 at biosafety level 3. 01:48:38.217 --> 01:48:47.982 The Wuhan lab's use of biosafety level 2 for research on bat SARS viruses would have posed a high risk, a very high risk, of infection of lab staff upon encountering a virus having the aerosol transmission properties of SARS-CoV-2. 01:48:49.042 --> 01:49:11.579 Fourth, in 2019, a novel SARS virus having a spike with extremely high binding affinity for human SARS receptors, a furin cleavage site inserted at the spike S1, S2 border, and a genome sequence with features enabling assembly from six synthetic nucleic acid building blocks using the reagent BSMB1, a virus having the exact features proposed in the 2018 NIH and DARPA proposals emerged on the doorstep of Wuhan Institute of Virology. 01:49:12.279 --> 01:49:17.323 SARS-CoV-2 is the only... Okay, so I guess these guys are laughing about it like they think it's funny or something. 01:49:17.363 --> 01:49:18.504 It's all part of the narrative. 01:49:18.544 --> 01:49:23.107 It's all part of the elaborate national security exercise that's happening here. 01:49:23.168 --> 01:49:24.148 This is on cue. 01:49:25.349 --> 01:49:26.230 These are actors. 01:49:26.290 --> 01:49:27.491 I'm certain of it. 01:49:28.678 --> 01:49:30.118 It feels gross to me. 01:49:31.339 --> 01:49:34.019 I wanted to go back a little bit and then I'll play him again. 01:49:34.580 --> 01:49:38.801 And then I wanna go to the link that Pamela dropped in the chat. 01:49:39.821 --> 01:49:57.506 So it's interesting, Richard Ebright is here featured in an article, it looks like in 2013, where he is detailed as having, oops, this is up here, is detailed as having participated, closely followed the anthrax investigation because they came to his institute 01:49:58.366 --> 01:49:59.586 to look for signs of it. 01:50:01.307 --> 01:50:07.269 That seems like a very big, that's a very big piece of data there. 01:50:08.430 --> 01:50:16.372 And here he is in 2013 saying making a biosafety level 4 laboratory is a disaster for our safety. 01:50:16.572 --> 01:50:26.576 So he is, here he is, reinforcing the narrative that gain-of-function virology is terrible and that pandemics are real already a decade ago. 01:50:27.588 --> 01:50:30.250 Hat tip to Pamela, like that's it, that's how you see them. 01:50:31.010 --> 01:50:35.093 And they would tell him this story for a very long time and that's why he's being queued up now. 01:50:35.933 --> 01:50:37.154 He's got a lot of practice. 01:50:38.624 --> 01:50:45.046 viruses having spikes with even higher binding affinities for human SARS receptors, seeking viruses having even higher pandemic potential. 01:50:45.586 --> 01:50:59.050 Also in 2018, just one year before the outbreak, in a DARPA grant proposal, the Wuhan Institute of Virology and its collaborators proposed to construct genetically modified SARS viruses having a furin cleavage site, a feature associated with increased viral growth and increased transmissibility. 01:50:59.290 --> 01:51:07.012 They proposed to insert the furin cleavage site at the spike gene S1-S2 border and to construct the viruses by synthesizing six nucleic acid building blocks. 01:51:07.392 --> 01:51:09.833 and assembling them using the reagent BSM-B1. 01:51:10.833 --> 01:51:22.356 Third, Wuhan Labs performed this research on SARS viruses using an inadequate biosafety standard, just biosafety level 2, and inadequate personal protective equipment, just gloves and a lab coat. 01:51:23.016 --> 01:51:27.537 Lab accidents that result in infection or release are common, even at biosafety levels higher than biosafety level 2. 01:51:28.237 --> 01:51:30.598 For context, the original SARS virus, SARS-CoV-1, 01:51:31.638 --> 01:51:40.780 caused lab-acquired infections in Singapore at biosafety level 3, in Beijing twice at biosafety level 3, and in Taipei at biosafety level 4. 01:51:41.020 --> 01:51:51.761 For further context, SARS-CoV-2 itself caused lab-acquired infections in Beijing in 2020 at biosafety level 3, and in Taipei in 2021 at biosafety level 3. 01:51:52.261 --> 01:52:00.063 The Wuhan lab's use of biosafety level 2 for research on bat SARS viruses would have posed a high- No, it's interesting because essentially I go back to this Annabelle 01:52:01.559 --> 01:52:07.384 anonymous account on Twitter and remind you that these infections could be exposure. 01:52:08.345 --> 01:52:16.273 And if they were transfected by the agent that they were working on at a sufficient level, then they may very well have shown disease. 01:52:16.313 --> 01:52:24.160 They may very well have tested positive for the synthetic construct that they were working on, but that didn't indicate a near miss on a pandemic. 01:52:25.563 --> 01:52:40.030 And remember that these molecular tools that they use to find these molecular signals, when the molecular signals that they're looking for are present in a pure form and in a high quantity, these PCR and sequencing reactions work like a charm. 01:52:41.691 --> 01:52:43.111 That's what I've been trying to tell you. 01:52:44.352 --> 01:52:46.693 PCR is hard to do out there. 01:52:47.774 --> 01:52:50.315 PCR is hard to do in a patient. 01:52:51.826 --> 01:52:54.848 It's really hard to prove that what you found is really there. 01:52:54.888 --> 01:53:02.472 And it's not erroneous without extensive controls and extensive investigation and extensive replicates, which they never do. 01:53:04.554 --> 01:53:16.401 Because it's most likely the misconstruing of a much broader, more, more misunderstood and hard to quantify background signal of communication between all living beings. 01:53:20.655 --> 01:53:27.977 and themselves and their conspecifics than it is exclusively virology from which pathogens emerge. 01:53:28.497 --> 01:53:29.478 It's just absurd. 01:53:30.258 --> 01:53:39.321 And none of these people are talking about the huge part of that swath of DNA and RNA that's likely exclusively being exchanged by the bacteria around us. 01:53:41.633 --> 01:54:06.944 And that's the part of the no virus people's narrative that bothers me a lot as well, because although they won't argue against bacteriophages because they've been identified very well, they won't acknowledge that bacteriophages and their diversity and their almost infinite complexity in the background make it impossible for this not to be a really bad background on which to claim the existence of these things. 01:54:09.733 --> 01:54:14.818 It is a huge, huge, it's a huge show. 01:54:14.858 --> 01:54:16.400 There's just no other way to explain it. 01:54:16.440 --> 01:54:22.065 These people could have saved us four years ago if they wanted to, but they've carefully orchestrated this Lollapalooza of lies. 01:54:22.686 --> 01:54:24.227 And that's why we're still not out. 01:54:24.708 --> 01:54:32.015 That's why some of the people that are lying to me, you still don't even know who they are because they made such a mistake that I can just make them wait. 01:54:34.517 --> 01:54:39.645 But if you pay attention to what's going on and you pay attention to what's not going on, you'll see who they are. 01:54:41.629 --> 01:54:42.811 One of them's even American. 01:54:43.912 --> 01:54:45.315 And a total, complete traitor. 01:54:50.091 --> 01:54:51.612 Oops, I gotta go back. 01:54:51.632 --> 01:54:52.753 51 at biosafety level three. 01:54:53.194 --> 01:55:03.182 The Wuhan lab's use of biosafety level two for research on bat SARS viruses would have posed a high risk, a very high risk, of infection of lab staff upon encountering a virus having the aerosol transmission properties of SARS-CoV-2. 01:55:03.962 --> 01:55:18.634 Fourth, in 2019, a novel SARS virus having a spike with extremely high binding affinity for human SARS receptors, a thuring cleavage site inserted at the spike S1, S2 border, and a genome sequence with features enabling assembly from six synthetic nucleic acid building blocks using the reagent BSMB1, 01:55:19.475 --> 01:55:26.541 a virus having the exact features proposed in the 2018 NIH and DARPA proposals emerged on the doorstep of Wuhan Institute of Virology. 01:55:27.202 --> 01:55:32.727 SARS-CoV-2 is the only one of more than 800 known SARS viruses that possesses a furin cleavage site. 01:55:33.067 --> 01:55:39.813 Mathematically, this observation alone implies that the probability of finding a natural SARS virus possessing a furin cleavage site is less than 1 in 800. 01:55:40.894 --> 01:56:01.711 you have to be careful the presence of a spike having an extremely high affinity for human SARS you have to be careful of those those calculations because many times they're talking about random assortments of DNA versus this assortment of DNA um and that's kind of disingenuous because we of course we know there are useful genes and we're not going from a random to an organized we're going from 01:56:02.452 --> 01:56:05.156 supposedly descending from other organized signals. 01:56:05.236 --> 01:56:10.824 So it kind of creates this illusion that it's really crazy that this happened. 01:56:11.986 --> 01:56:17.093 But in reality, if you realize that people can make synthetic DNA and RNA, then none of these things are crazy. 01:56:18.919 --> 01:56:20.140 That's the hilarity of it. 01:56:20.721 --> 01:56:26.507 Kevin McKernan explains it to us all the time, that we can make these sequences of DNA cheaper and cheaper every year. 01:56:26.527 --> 01:56:29.790 It's exponentially decreasing, right, Ray Kurzweiler? 01:56:30.330 --> 01:56:32.953 It's exponentially decreasing, these technologies. 01:56:33.173 --> 01:56:34.375 It's cheaper and cheaper. 01:56:35.475 --> 01:56:51.105 The presence of a furin cleavage site inserted at the spike S1-S2 border, the genome sequence enabling assembly from six synthetic nucleic acid building blocks using the reagent BSM-B1, and the 1-4-1 match between these features and the features proposed in the 2018 NIH and DARPA proposals make an extremely strong case. 01:56:51.385 --> 01:56:53.667 A smoking gun for a research origin. 01:56:53.707 --> 01:56:57.029 In summary, multiple lines of secure evidence point to a research origin. 01:56:57.489 --> 01:57:05.071 By contrast, as I hope I will have the opportunity to review in response to questions, no, zero secure evidence points toward a natural origin. 01:57:05.331 --> 01:57:05.611 Thank you. 01:57:08.192 --> 01:57:10.032 Thank you, and thank you to each of our witnesses. 01:57:10.892 --> 01:57:13.993 Dr. Gary, my first question is going to direct towards you. 01:57:14.793 --> 01:57:19.214 Of the evidence that's been presented thus far, it's still not clear to me. 01:57:19.475 --> 01:57:20.315 What just happened there? 01:57:20.335 --> 01:57:21.575 I thought there were four guys. 01:57:22.535 --> 01:57:23.756 Didn't four guys stand up? 01:57:23.796 --> 01:57:24.576 Did we skip one? 01:57:24.616 --> 01:57:25.076 What happened? 01:57:26.394 --> 01:57:30.256 That's weird, I thought there were four guys, but maybe not. 01:57:30.837 --> 01:57:31.617 Did we hear from four? 01:57:31.657 --> 01:57:33.979 We heard from that dude that says it was natural. 01:57:34.759 --> 01:57:35.960 Then we heard from Gary. 01:57:37.100 --> 01:57:38.581 Oh yeah, and then Quay and then this guy. 01:57:38.601 --> 01:57:39.602 That's right, it was four guys. 01:57:40.202 --> 01:57:43.204 How much is concrete documented information? 01:57:44.024 --> 01:57:47.186 That shows you how ridiculously similar their stories were. 01:57:47.206 --> 01:57:49.828 I couldn't even remember Quay because it's like, yeah, I mean. 01:57:50.668 --> 01:57:52.750 How much is speculation? 01:57:53.691 --> 01:57:57.998 or perhaps just filling in the gaps with assumptions based on what's out there. 01:57:58.479 --> 01:58:07.294 So my question for you, Dr. Gary, is could you elaborate more on the specific hard evidence that supports your claim that the Chinese market in Wuhan was the most likely source of the virus? 01:58:07.765 --> 01:58:08.866 Certainly, and thank you for the question. 01:58:09.387 --> 01:58:15.412 There is a lot of evidence that this virus emerged from the Henan Seafood Market in Wuhan, but let me just focus on three points. 01:58:16.053 --> 01:58:19.095 Epidemiology, molecular forensics, and genetics. 01:58:19.976 --> 01:58:20.897 First, the epidemiology. 01:58:21.257 --> 01:58:29.885 The early cases from December 2019, before the disease was even described, all centered around, in fact, they painted a bullseye on the Henan Seafood Market. 01:58:30.566 --> 01:58:31.487 the molecular forensics. 01:58:32.027 --> 01:58:35.090 Environmental samples were collected from the market after it was closed. 01:58:35.690 --> 01:58:40.214 The hotspot of SARS-CoV-2 positivity, the RNA, was in the southwest corner of the market. 01:58:41.275 --> 01:58:48.801 In those very same samples, RNA and DNA from raccoon dogs and mass palm civets was found in these samples, commingling with the SARS-CoV-2 RNA. 01:58:50.022 --> 01:58:50.442 Genetics. 01:58:51.122 --> 01:58:53.825 The SARS-CoV-2 spilled over at least twice in the market. 01:58:54.025 --> 01:58:56.447 The phylogenetics, the genetics of the virus are very clear about that. 01:58:56.767 --> 01:58:59.089 That is not compatible with a lab leak. 01:59:01.158 --> 01:59:07.600 Dr. Carey, do we know that the virus that caused COVID-19 existed in the Wuhan lab before the pandemic? 01:59:07.720 --> 01:59:09.180 And if not, how could we find that out? 01:59:09.940 --> 01:59:10.801 In fact, we don't know. 01:59:11.841 --> 01:59:18.523 The intelligence community has looked at that point very intently and has not been able to determine that Wuhan had the virus. 01:59:20.743 --> 01:59:22.064 We don't have the evidence from the Chinese. 01:59:22.124 --> 01:59:26.105 It's just one of the many things that we're missing that we would like to get from the Chinese government. 01:59:27.850 --> 01:59:36.440 Based on the bat coronavirus that we know that researchers in the Wuhan lab are working on, would it have been possible for them to create this virus? 01:59:36.640 --> 01:59:37.021 Is it possible? 01:59:37.560 --> 01:59:38.680 not from a bat coronavirus. 01:59:39.501 --> 01:59:48.103 If you take the time to read my written testimony, I'm going to, in that document, I went through a lot of evidence that this virus did not spill over directly from a bat to a human being. 01:59:48.783 --> 01:59:50.944 It had to go through an intermediate animal. 01:59:50.984 --> 01:59:54.144 And it's not just the... So it had to go through an intermediate animal. 01:59:54.204 --> 01:59:59.446 Again, he's kind of assuming that, you know, we can't just make pure quantities of whatever we want to make. 02:00:00.026 --> 02:00:03.007 It's really extraordinary how well they talk around it. 02:00:03.107 --> 02:00:08.710 In fact, they talk around it as skillfully as Rixie has done for four years. 02:00:09.230 --> 02:00:20.355 They talk around it as skillfully as Kevin McCairn has talked around it for years, and as skillfully as Jessica Rose and Kevin McKernan have talked around it for several years now. 02:00:20.935 --> 02:00:28.018 It is very simple to make all of these molecular signals in a lab in quantity and put them wherever you want to find them. 02:00:28.758 --> 02:00:52.776 Separately, it is possible to transform and transfect people with any immunogen or protein or toxin you want to, and find that signal with PCR sequencing when you want to, and to misconstrue any combination of these things as a spreading novel pathogen on a background you've already characterized or on a background that's too deep to characterize. 02:00:52.836 --> 02:00:53.557 It doesn't matter. 02:00:54.577 --> 02:00:55.218 It's a crime. 02:00:56.226 --> 02:01:04.169 And all of the people that want you to accept a simple explanation like it's an RNA that's special are at this stage meddlers. 02:01:04.949 --> 02:01:11.471 It doesn't matter what handle they have or whether they're anonymous or not or whether they have a blue check or not. 02:01:12.111 --> 02:01:17.773 It's not possible to be here four and a half years in and not understand that this is a fundamental lie. 02:01:18.715 --> 02:01:27.737 that the biology, the molecular biology that they purport to hijack your cells to make your cells do something that they don't already do is a lie. 02:01:28.897 --> 02:01:41.319 And therefore all of this, all of this is just an elaborate hoax that these witting and unwitting participants are trying to fool us into teaching our kids, including some of the people that occasionally show up in our chat. 02:01:41.359 --> 02:01:43.999 They're all part of the same thing, whether they know it or not. 02:01:44.680 --> 02:01:46.700 It's an awful lot of useful idiots in the world. 02:01:48.174 --> 02:01:49.755 the evidence from the non-market. 02:01:49.775 --> 02:01:51.515 There's other genetic evidence. 02:01:51.555 --> 02:01:56.557 The bat coronaviruses are viruses that are spread by the gastrointestinal route. 02:01:57.217 --> 02:02:05.480 For a virus like this to become a respiratory virus is just going to require too many mutations, too many changes for a bat virus to spill directly over to a human being. 02:02:05.760 --> 02:02:09.521 That could only really happen in nature with replication through an intermediate animal. 02:02:10.560 --> 02:02:10.780 Very good. 02:02:11.020 --> 02:02:12.640 Dr. Koblitz, next question's for you. 02:02:13.341 --> 02:02:16.621 I'm aware that through FOIA requests, a lot of information from U.S. 02:02:16.701 --> 02:02:21.863 agencies and U.S.-based organizations have been obtained by people investigating the COVID-19 origins. 02:02:22.323 --> 02:02:29.865 However, it seems as though we've gotten relatively little or nothing from Chinese agencies or the Wuhan Institute of Virology specifically. 02:02:30.265 --> 02:02:35.986 So my question for you, sir, is what specific information from China would be most helpful in settling this origin debate? 02:02:38.497 --> 02:02:39.017 Thank you, Senator. 02:02:39.777 --> 02:02:54.468 There's a range of information that would be useful for furthering our investigation of the origins of the... It's an interesting question, but I don't know, off the top of my head, differentiating between a lung and gut infection should be pretty difficult. 02:02:58.090 --> 02:03:01.733 Because that's all part of the same outside in my little diagram, right? 02:03:01.773 --> 02:03:04.595 It's all one continuous epithelium there. 02:03:05.316 --> 02:03:05.576 So, 02:03:07.031 --> 02:03:10.029 It's interesting, but yeah, I think it's something to think about. 02:03:12.039 --> 02:03:12.679 It's a good question. 02:03:42.799 --> 02:03:47.880 In terms of the one in zoology, there should be records about the research they're conducting. 02:03:48.140 --> 02:04:03.364 There should be records about the medical surveillance they're performing on their researchers, records on the maintenance operation of their biocontainment equipment, and all that, those documentations would be, could be reviewed by outside experts to determine if there's any signs that there was any 02:04:04.405 --> 02:04:27.946 accidents or any indications that there was the virus was I mean this is just a long lap so there's quite a bit information that that's available this is like a long list of questions that have no relevance to reality that's what it is right if they all agree in the room and the guys up on the stage agree that these are relevant questions because these are relevant experts then we lose that's it that's just the end of the story 02:04:30.249 --> 02:04:43.937 But obviously, the Chinese government has chosen to be opaque about what they have and what they know in a way that has frustrated people involved with looking at this in terms of assessing both the natural zoonotic spillover pathway and also looking at the lab accident pathway. 02:04:46.259 --> 02:04:51.722 Dr. Yarry, you talked about the virus jumping from an animal into a human, and we've heard the term spillover. 02:04:52.142 --> 02:04:55.164 For the benefit of this committee, could you explain spillover? 02:04:58.078 --> 02:04:59.880 human diseases have come to us from animals. 02:05:01.081 --> 02:05:06.845 When we're talking about a spillover, we're talking about a cross species transmission from one animal species to another. 02:05:06.905 --> 02:05:10.108 I mean, it could be another animal, but you know, usually when we talk about spillover, we're talking. 02:05:10.148 --> 02:05:12.931 Spillover is a really interesting term to use again, right? 02:05:12.971 --> 02:05:20.537 Because that doesn't necessarily imply replication and, and, and, and, uh, 02:05:22.059 --> 02:05:23.441 Pattern integrity, right? 02:05:23.561 --> 02:05:25.143 It just implies proximity. 02:05:25.203 --> 02:05:26.725 It applies in exposure. 02:05:27.365 --> 02:05:31.630 And so they're very careful to use these words, I think, because all the time it's exposure. 02:05:31.691 --> 02:05:39.800 It's exposure to these bioweapons, which are just essentially transformations and transfections that they've been playing with for a very long time. 02:05:40.711 --> 02:05:41.331 That's what I think. 02:05:41.631 --> 02:05:42.591 I think it's that simple. 02:05:43.312 --> 02:05:54.314 And I think they've been releasing them and testing them and trying to misconstrue these things as evidence of mother nature's activities instead of the biosecurity state's activities. 02:05:54.374 --> 02:05:55.334 That's what SARS was. 02:05:55.794 --> 02:05:56.774 That's what MERS was. 02:05:56.814 --> 02:05:57.914 That's what Ebola is. 02:05:57.994 --> 02:05:59.135 Maybe that's what Zika is. 02:05:59.195 --> 02:06:00.175 I don't know about that one. 02:06:00.895 --> 02:06:02.615 And that's what SARS-CoV-2 is. 02:06:02.675 --> 02:06:04.036 That's what Nipah would be. 02:06:04.096 --> 02:06:05.556 That's what any of these things would be. 02:06:06.528 --> 02:06:17.334 That's my current best guess, even though I'm not committed to knowing, because this is definitely a crime, and it's a crime committed by all these witting and unwitting liars. 02:06:17.454 --> 02:06:18.995 You got from an animal to a human. 02:06:19.055 --> 02:06:22.037 So animals have their own viruses, just like we do. 02:06:22.837 --> 02:06:27.259 The ones that are dangerous in the animals, though, are the ones that have the capacity to infect more than one species. 02:06:27.480 --> 02:06:31.802 You can think about a virus like rabies that can infect a wide range of mammalian hosts. 02:06:33.154 --> 02:06:38.500 So do we know what animal or animals could have carried this virus and were they at the market? 02:06:38.780 --> 02:06:40.542 Explain that more fully, please. 02:06:40.702 --> 02:06:40.882 Sure. 02:06:41.623 --> 02:06:42.444 We don't know that for sure. 02:06:43.065 --> 02:06:47.449 What we do know is that when you look for the virus in the market on environmental surfaces, 02:06:49.111 --> 02:06:49.711 various places. 02:06:49.992 --> 02:06:51.893 You found it mostly in the southwest corner of the market. 02:06:51.933 --> 02:06:57.035 This is where the wildlife was sold, the animals like the raccoon donks or the mass palm civets. 02:06:57.355 --> 02:07:02.298 And in fact, there were many of the samples there had SARS-CoV-2 and DNA and RNA from those animals. 02:07:03.078 --> 02:07:11.863 Don't forget that Brett Weinstein was selling the bushmeat thing and actually took the opportunity at the beginning of the pandemic to reinforce the narrative that AIDS started from bushmeat. 02:07:14.929 --> 02:07:20.754 Don't forget that because that's a very important part of this that a lot of these meddlers don't want to talk about. 02:07:20.794 --> 02:07:29.580 That virology has been a lie since AIDS is something that a lot of these people won't say, including some of the craftiest of the meddlers behind the scenes. 02:07:30.141 --> 02:07:31.982 And that should reveal everything to you. 02:07:32.883 --> 02:07:35.105 Judy Mikovits doesn't say AIDS was fake. 02:07:36.286 --> 02:07:38.307 Robert Malone doesn't say AIDS was fake. 02:07:38.367 --> 02:07:40.329 Meryl Nass doesn't say AIDS was fake. 02:07:44.286 --> 02:07:45.928 Even though that was much worse. 02:07:46.008 --> 02:07:47.709 I mean, that was really, really bad. 02:07:48.770 --> 02:07:55.936 Before they had the technology to make cheap DNA and RNA and spray it in places or dump it in the sewers and say they found it. 02:07:57.198 --> 02:07:58.979 It would have been expensive to do it back then. 02:07:59.039 --> 02:08:00.661 Now they can do it for pennies. 02:08:03.223 --> 02:08:04.946 These meddlers don't want to talk about that. 02:08:05.006 --> 02:08:11.858 These so-called little people on the internet that whisper here and there, they don't talk about anything useful. 02:08:12.319 --> 02:08:15.464 They just attribute bad motives to the people who are telling the truth. 02:08:16.243 --> 02:08:17.004 That's how you see them. 02:08:17.024 --> 02:08:17.864 They're in the same sample. 02:08:18.825 --> 02:08:21.587 You could imagine somebody maybe came and sneezed on that sample. 02:08:21.607 --> 02:08:26.371 But the most likely explanation is that the animals were, in fact, infected themselves with SARS-CoV-2. 02:08:26.731 --> 02:08:32.895 When you look at the drains outside of that one stall that had the most SARS-CoV-2, that drain also had virus. 02:08:35.583 --> 02:08:40.046 You know, we don't have the evidence that, you know, there was actually an infected. 02:08:40.366 --> 02:08:43.248 David Rasnick is going to come on very soon on the market. 02:08:43.408 --> 02:08:47.270 But I think we have the next best thing with this forensic molecular biology. 02:08:47.790 --> 02:08:48.031 Thank you. 02:08:48.051 --> 02:08:49.091 Thank you, Member Paul. 02:08:49.111 --> 02:08:50.032 You're recognized for your questions. 02:08:50.612 --> 02:08:53.234 Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to submit statements for the record from U.S. 02:08:53.274 --> 02:08:57.516 Right to Know, Open the Books, America First Legal, Frontiers of Freedom and Dr. Alina Chan. 02:08:57.897 --> 02:08:58.397 Without objection. 02:08:59.966 --> 02:09:08.612 So just in the last few minutes, Dr. Gary has told us that this could... So Dr. Alina Chan's little thing that was published in the New York Times is now part of the congressional record. 02:09:08.652 --> 02:09:19.540 Alina Chan has been lying since May of 2020 when she published a preprint about the sequences of SARS-CoV-2 compared to the evolution of the sequences of SARS-CoV-1. 02:09:19.941 --> 02:09:22.302 And that paper has never been published. 02:09:22.343 --> 02:09:25.565 And instead, she was given a permanent position at the Broad Institute. 02:09:28.527 --> 02:09:37.238 which is kind of attached to the Whitehead Institute and kind of attached to the same MIT that the Human Genome Project and Mark Lander and Kevin McKernan are from. 02:09:37.278 --> 02:09:41.384 It's all the same little bullshit story told by the same bullshitters. 02:09:43.404 --> 02:09:44.124 to come from bats. 02:09:44.204 --> 02:09:45.445 It had to go through an intermediate host. 02:09:45.845 --> 02:09:51.869 That may well be true, but arguing against that is they tested 90,000 some odd animals, and there is no animal host that's been found. 02:09:52.269 --> 02:09:55.551 But what he also doesn't tell you is the animal host could be a laboratory animal. 02:09:55.912 --> 02:10:01.495 It could be passed serially through that, and that's one way of quickly adapting and pushing natural selection to adaptivirus towards humans. 02:10:01.695 --> 02:10:08.219 I mean, Andrew Huff told us that they went through like 150,000 years of evolution in a laboratory experiment like that. 02:10:12.608 --> 02:10:15.169 And now here's Rand Paul saying the same stupid shit. 02:10:16.589 --> 02:10:27.252 And you can imagine back in the 50s or the 60s, they probably told the same story that with radiation, they could accelerate evolution 50 or 60 years into the future. 02:10:28.553 --> 02:10:35.675 Make no mistake about it, ladies and gentlemen, the same bullshit stories have been circulating with these same bullshitters for quite some time. 02:10:36.636 --> 02:10:42.822 and covering up the real truth of the special cancer virus program is a big part of this little game they're playing. 02:10:44.444 --> 02:10:54.374 That's why you have certain anonymous space cats that have been around for a long time covering that shit up in the right way possible to make sure that these people never usefully could be questioned with it. 02:10:56.124 --> 02:11:01.068 Dr. Alina Chan has written extensively about this, how this virus didn't show up clunky and poorly transmissible. 02:11:01.088 --> 02:11:06.231 This virus showed up immediately very transmissible in humans as if it had been pre-adapted in a lab. 02:11:07.112 --> 02:11:07.713 Dr. Ebright. 02:11:08.584 --> 02:11:15.826 Dr. Gary tells us that he's wedded to the scientific method and that he considered all the different possibilities in proximal origins. 02:11:16.326 --> 02:11:19.327 I know you're a professor, and I'm assuming you've been the senior author on many papers. 02:11:19.767 --> 02:11:24.849 I assume that you teach your younger researchers what is good scientific method and not good scientific method. 02:11:25.329 --> 02:11:32.631 In the abstract of proximal origins, Dr. Gary and his fellow authors state categorically that the virus is not a laboratory construct. 02:11:33.231 --> 02:11:42.167 That doesn't sound to me like open-mindedness, and I wonder what you would tell a younger researcher or someone you were instructing in the scientific method about putting categorical statements into a scientific paper. 02:11:42.915 --> 02:11:49.477 What's important to emphasize that the paper in question, Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2, published in March 2020, was not a research article. 02:11:49.957 --> 02:11:50.958 It was an opinion piece. 02:11:51.118 --> 02:11:56.980 It was published as a commentary, which is the section in the journal that holds opinion pieces and editorials. 02:11:57.340 --> 02:11:58.941 So it was an opinion piece. 02:11:59.121 --> 02:12:00.641 The authors were stating their opinion. 02:12:00.881 --> 02:12:03.002 But that opinion was not well-founded. 02:12:03.482 --> 02:12:09.684 In March of 2020, there was no basis to state that as a conclusion, as opposed to simply being a hypothesis. 02:12:10.025 --> 02:12:10.925 Moreover, we know 02:12:11.505 --> 02:12:37.228 we know that compelling evidence has been presented as a result of congressional inquiry in the house that four of the authors of that paper it is really like a combination of richard i mean um of of of ebert the the movie guy and captain kangaroo and janet yellen they could all be the same person that wears different masks i'm not even it's crazy dr anderson dr gary dr holmes and dr rambo 02:12:38.135 --> 02:12:44.620 in their private communications show clearly that they knew the conclusion that they stated in that article was invalid. 02:12:45.421 --> 02:12:56.130 So in terms of what I would tell a younger scientist, I would be mentoring, I would tell a younger scientist that you do not state a conclusion without evidence, even in an opinion piece in a scientific journal. 02:12:56.830 --> 02:13:03.135 And you never, under any circumstances in a scientific journal, state conclusions that you know to be unsound. 02:13:03.235 --> 02:13:05.676 That represents scientific misconduct. 02:13:05.977 --> 02:13:12.862 And so what if you stated in a scientific paper that pandemic potential is real and that we are accessing it in a lab? 02:13:13.342 --> 02:13:18.986 What if you stated in a paper that you are looking for pandemic potential in bat caves and may have found it? 02:13:20.359 --> 02:13:23.820 Is that not the same kind of malevolence that he's describing here? 02:13:24.480 --> 02:13:41.063 Is that not, that contradiction not obvious to you that he's so willing to lay this accusation down at the altar of gain of function, but not able to lay this accusation down at the whole biosecurity state, creating the illusion of gain of function. 02:13:41.103 --> 02:13:49.404 The reason why, because he is part of the national security state that is designed to create the illusion of consensus that this actually exists when it does not. 02:13:52.133 --> 02:13:54.995 and scientific misconduct up to and including fraud. 02:13:55.455 --> 02:14:00.558 And the paper in question, the proximal origin paper, has been recommended for review of retraction. 02:14:00.878 --> 02:14:13.845 Two requests, one in 2023 and one in 2024, were submitted by teams of scientists to the journal in question, to the journal editors, asking them to add an editorial expression of concern and to initiate a review for retraction of the article. 02:14:14.425 --> 02:14:27.331 I know of no other example in modern scientific history or publications where a publication has come forward pronouncing with such authority that the lab leak is implausible, it is not a laboratory construct, while privately saying, this is no friggin' conspiracy theory. 02:14:27.351 --> 02:14:28.672 It looks like it did. 02:14:28.712 --> 02:14:29.132 I'm 90-10. 02:14:29.232 --> 02:14:29.512 I'm 50-50. 02:14:29.812 --> 02:14:30.813 But no doubt in the paper. 02:14:31.113 --> 02:14:35.595 In fact, we know that it went back and forth with Dr. Fauci and with editors who say, we want the statements to be stronger. 02:14:35.635 --> 02:14:36.835 We want the conclusions to be stronger. 02:14:36.855 --> 02:14:38.216 That was actually coming from nature at the time. 02:14:38.396 --> 02:14:41.720 We want you to doctor it up and even be more strong because we're making a political point here. 02:14:42.080 --> 02:14:51.770 That's where we should have known we were off track, that these people were politicians and that they were pushing an idea because as Dr. Collins finally admitted in one of the emails, this is about the business of science with China. 02:14:51.810 --> 02:14:54.313 This will disturb our relations with China if anybody questions this. 02:14:54.994 --> 02:14:55.434 Dr. Cui. 02:14:56.744 --> 02:15:01.446 The idea that this came from the fish market I thought had been discredited by virtually all of the scientists. 02:15:01.466 --> 02:15:03.207 Now, I'm really surprised it's still being presented here. 02:15:03.648 --> 02:15:09.711 I know that the Chinese, the CDC, George Gao over there, basically said that they no longer consider it. 02:15:10.091 --> 02:15:12.432 And actually, if you think about it from their perspective, we're not sure if we can trust them. 02:15:12.752 --> 02:15:17.155 But at the same time, the Chinese, if they would rather have it come from a lab or the market, I think would choose the market over the lab. 02:15:17.435 --> 02:15:21.657 If anything, they would be, if we were going to think they were dishonest, would be dishonest towards saying, hey, we found some animals. 02:15:22.057 --> 02:15:38.531 But if you could review stepwise, just a little bit slower, some of the evidence for why it's not there, the amount of animals tested, the animal handlers compared to SARS-1, but also the idea of this genetic diversity that, you know, when SARS-1 came about the first time, I think it tried hundreds of times, because these animal viruses don't infect humans well in the beginning. 02:15:38.551 --> 02:15:39.912 It tried hundreds of times, over and over again. 02:15:40.253 --> 02:15:42.895 And even in the end, SARS-1 didn't transmit between humans very well. 02:15:42.935 --> 02:15:46.338 That's why containment worked, and that's why quarantine worked, because it wasn't very infectious. 02:15:46.698 --> 02:16:00.402 And so again, I would highlight the fact that not transmitting very well between humans might have been a failure of the synthetic construct that they made rather than a failure of a zoonosis. 02:16:01.582 --> 02:16:02.863 They wished it gone farther. 02:16:04.623 --> 02:16:09.945 Maybe they do try to make self-replicating RNA constructs that they transfect and transform us to. 02:16:10.045 --> 02:16:10.565 Why not? 02:16:11.645 --> 02:16:13.065 They have all the technology. 02:16:13.185 --> 02:16:14.706 It's totally cheap to do now. 02:16:16.485 --> 02:16:18.048 And that's how virology is done. 02:16:18.569 --> 02:16:19.251 So why not? 02:16:20.413 --> 02:16:26.165 Ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to take a break and head out with the famdamily if they haven't already left without me. 02:16:27.725 --> 02:16:32.170 Please understand that there are few things more dishonorable than misleading the young. 02:16:32.190 --> 02:16:42.200 And if you've wittingly or unwittingly been involved in misleading the young and passing on this narrative to our children, then please wake up and wake up quick because RNA cannot pandemic. 02:16:42.280 --> 02:16:50.729 If you remember cassette tapes, cassette tapes you can make a little assortment from different albums on a mixtape, but you can't make copies of that mixtape 02:16:51.229 --> 02:16:55.032 because they're not a very high fidelity copying medium. 02:16:55.092 --> 02:16:58.834 You can't make a nice copy of that one and have the next one sound good. 02:16:58.874 --> 02:17:01.756 But CDs solved this problem because they became digital. 02:17:02.196 --> 02:17:07.360 And in fact, if you take this analogy to virology, what you find is that 02:17:07.740 --> 02:17:17.068 The RNA that they find in nature is often incomplete, it's often not competent, it's often barely able to show up as a signal. 02:17:17.448 --> 02:17:24.054 And so that the way they overcome this, number one, they use reverse transcriptase to convert RNA to DNA before they can even look for it. 02:17:24.814 --> 02:17:32.761 And secondly, when they find something in there that they say was RNA, they make a DNA copy of it anyway because it won't grow in a cell culture. 02:17:36.038 --> 02:17:39.759 And so they make, I'm going to escape out of here because for some reason that's not running very well. 02:17:39.839 --> 02:17:44.881 And I'm going to go up here and I'm going to escape out of this one and close it if I can. 02:17:44.921 --> 02:17:45.761 What's going on here? 02:17:45.801 --> 02:17:46.301 What happened? 02:17:47.021 --> 02:17:47.941 Why is it doing this? 02:17:48.321 --> 02:17:48.682 Darn it. 02:17:49.542 --> 02:17:50.122 Come on now. 02:17:52.703 --> 02:17:53.403 What is happening? 02:17:53.443 --> 02:17:53.963 Why is this? 02:17:55.624 --> 02:17:56.604 Can I pull this down? 02:17:56.684 --> 02:17:56.984 No. 02:17:59.225 --> 02:18:00.565 Can I quit that? 02:18:00.725 --> 02:18:01.405 Yes, I can. 02:18:01.485 --> 02:18:02.185 Okay, there we go. 02:18:02.205 --> 02:18:02.846 Sorry about that. 02:18:03.006 --> 02:18:03.566 My fault. 02:18:03.626 --> 02:18:04.026 My bad. 02:18:05.591 --> 02:18:06.912 And so we are here. 02:18:11.055 --> 02:18:12.716 And so they can't grow them. 02:18:13.136 --> 02:18:15.338 They cannot grow viruses or whatever they find. 02:18:15.378 --> 02:18:19.721 The RNA signals that they find in the wild do not grow in culture. 02:18:20.461 --> 02:18:25.885 And so they take these RNA signals and they convert them to a DNA signal that they can grow in bacteria. 02:18:26.638 --> 02:18:33.401 And that means that they can make a very large quantity of this CD version of the RNA that they purport to find in the wild. 02:18:33.841 --> 02:18:41.804 But it's that one lie that might be the basis of all of this, if it's all just testing transfection and transformation on populations. 02:18:42.444 --> 02:18:49.547 Populations in Africa where these crazy things break out, or populations in South America, or populations in China where they break out. 02:18:50.984 --> 02:19:06.710 They could be constructed if they wanted to with very simple molecular means, growing them in giant vats like the vats that Brian Ardis showed at the Red Pill Expo but didn't adequately explain are always starting with DNA constructs of synthetic DNA. 02:19:07.785 --> 02:19:09.526 It's strange that he didn't mention that. 02:19:09.546 --> 02:19:16.031 I mean, he could have hit this home like a series of grand slams, but instead he just said, venom, venom, venoms everywhere, venom. 02:19:16.631 --> 02:19:20.954 And look at how much venom they make without explaining how they make the venom, which is this way. 02:19:21.014 --> 02:19:27.738 They make it with recombinant DNA and RNA processes that all of these people have understood the consequences of for decades. 02:19:27.778 --> 02:19:33.842 That includes, you can separate proteins from nucleic acids, but you can't separate nucleic acids from nucleic acids. 02:19:34.243 --> 02:19:35.223 Are you guys going to go soon? 02:19:35.984 --> 02:19:36.544 You're not going to go? 02:19:38.209 --> 02:19:38.569 Okay. 02:19:40.311 --> 02:19:45.255 And so they can use these things to transform and transfect cell culture. 02:19:45.295 --> 02:19:48.037 They can use these things to transform and transfect animals. 02:19:48.478 --> 02:19:54.603 And they can use these things and send these transfection and transformation agents to their friends. 02:19:54.683 --> 02:19:58.126 And they can all do the same experiments. 02:19:58.266 --> 02:20:02.850 They can also make industrial size quantities of the DNA, the RNA, or the proteins. 02:20:03.712 --> 02:20:07.595 just can't separate the DNA and the RNA very well. 02:20:08.176 --> 02:20:13.020 And that's why the Moderna shots were always known to be contaminated. 02:20:13.080 --> 02:20:21.788 They always knew that they would be because they can't use anion exchange chromatography to clean them up like they could any other protein that they would make, like venom. 02:20:22.508 --> 02:20:31.516 So it's interesting, for example, that artists didn't take the time to teach you that when they make venom, they're making a protein, which means they can clean the DNA and the RNA away from it. 02:20:32.148 --> 02:20:40.435 But they already knew that they couldn't clean the DNA away from an RNA because anion exchange chromatography can't be used to separate those two entities. 02:20:42.197 --> 02:20:48.042 What a strange thing to avoid saying for four and a half years while you have this show and tour around the world. 02:20:49.644 --> 02:20:55.289 Not really saying that the vaccine schedule in America is criminal, but saying I got unvaccinated kids and they're awesome. 02:20:56.630 --> 02:21:05.279 rubbing it in people's faces that made the mistake of vaccinating their kids because they were scared or because their doctor and the nurses in the doctor's office lied to them. 02:21:05.919 --> 02:21:07.761 Think about how nasty that is. 02:21:11.825 --> 02:21:19.873 And so virology has dropped the term infectious clones and Dr. Quay dropped the term synthetic clones. 02:21:22.110 --> 02:21:34.455 But nobody's ever managed to say, not one, no virus person has ever managed to say that it's just synthetic DNA and synthetic RNA and quantity that they transform and transfect these laboratory models with. 02:21:34.555 --> 02:21:46.879 And then they call it virology because if they would have gotten there, the whole illusion of the biosecurity state might've fallen apart years ago and our children would no longer be in danger of being enslaved by this mythology. 02:21:50.361 --> 02:21:51.181 Ladies and gentlemen, 02:21:54.121 --> 02:22:02.343 They've lied to us about the pandemic potential that is codified in these stories in order to take our children and enslave them. 02:22:04.544 --> 02:22:06.805 The only thing they've done is transform stuff. 02:22:06.845 --> 02:22:07.245 That's it. 02:22:07.305 --> 02:22:09.245 They find these signals in the wild. 02:22:09.306 --> 02:22:17.528 They, they remake them synthetically and they move from cell culture to cell culture, perhaps by replication, but perhaps by exposure. 02:22:19.309 --> 02:22:28.194 But they don't represent pattern integrities, and it doesn't matter what shit you stitch together or where you precisely put a fear and cleavage site. 02:22:28.214 --> 02:22:28.835 It won't matter. 02:22:28.895 --> 02:22:30.916 They're still not going to become pattern integrities. 02:22:31.396 --> 02:22:34.698 And that's the lie that these people are all trying to cover up. 02:22:36.619 --> 02:22:38.561 And they want us to teach to our children. 02:22:39.781 --> 02:22:40.602 That's what they're hiding. 02:22:45.188 --> 02:22:50.573 Ladies and gentlemen, intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb. 02:22:51.074 --> 02:22:58.221 Transfection in healthy humans was always criminally negligent, and that's why the word transfection is at the top of Robert Malone's resume for 15 years. 02:22:58.802 --> 02:23:00.804 RNA cannot pandemic, ladies and gentlemen. 02:23:00.824 --> 02:23:05.629 There are other ways to say it, but you don't have to fear wild RNA molecules. 02:23:06.109 --> 02:23:10.590 Please stop all transfection in humans, because they are trying to eliminate the control 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02:24:52.935 We got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses. 02:24:53.455 --> 02:24:53.716 Hit it. 02:25:05.821 --> 02:25:06.701 See you later, guys. 02:25:06.741 --> 02:25:07.321 See you tomorrow. 02:25:07.341 --> 02:25:08.422 That wasn't the best ending. 02:25:08.442 --> 02:25:09.262 Sorry about that. 02:25:09.422 --> 02:25:11.723 I thought the timing was just a little bit longer on that. 02:25:11.843 --> 02:25:13.364 Be well, everyone, and I'll see you tomorrow. 02:25:21.485 --> 02:25:22.787 What are they doing out there? 02:25:24.449 --> 02:25:26.692 Oh, they must be blowing off the trampoline or something. 02:25:27.433 --> 02:25:28.234 Take care, everybody. 02:25:28.254 --> 02:25:29.576 Sorry, I still didn't push stop. 02:25:29.616 --> 02:25:29.837 Whoops.