WEBVTT 01:00.000 --> 01:21.960 If you aren't aware of what 01:21.960 --> 01:27.120 you satanic live has found over the last three days you've been sleeping under a rock 01:27.120 --> 01:35.080 make sure you figure it out cuz it's about to get ugly 01:35.080 --> 01:39.200 love what Mark is doing I love it 01:39.200 --> 01:43.400 you schedule wait until you see where we're going 01:43.400 --> 01:49.280 French British Italian this is over Japanese television it's all over but 01:50.280 --> 01:56.640 listen to him it's embarrassing it's all over but the crying ladies and 01:56.640 --> 02:01.460 gentlemen kids deserve a lot of credit this town's been flooded with phony 02:01.460 --> 02:07.400 twenties for weeks oh it was nothing really but oh mr. Pietro posing as a 02:07.400 --> 02:12.920 doorman sure had us fooled for a while he really gave himself away when he put 02:12.920 --> 02:17.760 on his little puppet show for us the real hero a Scooby-Doo and by the way 02:17.760 --> 02:28.440 where is he oh no look at him like I said before what a ham 02:47.760 --> 03:12.400 oh my goodness good afternoon ladies and gentlemen I am so happy to be here 03:12.400 --> 03:18.720 today it is October 19th 2023 took a three hour nap this afternoon with a 03:18.720 --> 03:24.640 fever and I feel a little better after a shower and I'm here with my friend 03:24.640 --> 03:33.160 Joseph Lee and in a few minutes we're gonna rip this in half like a loaf of 03:33.160 --> 03:37.520 bread in our hands we're gonna rip this in half we're gonna spread the truth 03:37.560 --> 03:46.640 around a little bit share some sandwiches because it's really time they have been 03:46.640 --> 03:51.160 misleading the young about immunology and misleading the young about pandemic 03:51.160 --> 03:59.120 potential about climate change and about antibodies for too long it's time we 03:59.120 --> 04:07.260 learned our history before they erase it to ever remember I hope it's not too 04:07.260 --> 04:14.160 choppy hopefully it's just getting started here ladies and gentlemen 04:17.960 --> 04:21.840 I'm gonna get a sound check in here in a second I will get Joel right away on 04:21.840 --> 04:25.880 screen because you don't need to waste a lot of time 04:25.880 --> 04:30.920 there was no spread in New York City that we can detect infectious clones are 04:30.920 --> 04:36.840 the only dangerous form of RNA placebo batches were used and transfections 04:36.840 --> 04:43.280 dump and the protocols were definitely a murder gain a function it's definitely 04:43.280 --> 04:46.880 a mythology and the Scooby-Doo mystery that we've been fooled into solving is 04:46.880 --> 04:53.600 still ongoing because these players are committed to the lies and they've ruined 04:53.600 --> 04:58.920 a lot of people's lives with these lies Joseph Lee is somebody who put his neck 04:58.920 --> 05:05.520 out there real early in 2020 and everybody ignored him even though his 05:05.520 --> 05:11.600 biology's turned out to be a hundred percent correct and then some in fact I 05:11.600 --> 05:18.680 think that Joseph Lee honed in on some of the best fundamental biology with 05:18.680 --> 05:25.280 regard to antibodies and antibodies turned out to be the central story of 05:25.280 --> 05:31.520 this whole bamboozlement good evening ladies and gentlemen this is Giga on 05:31.520 --> 05:34.840 biological high-resistance low-noise information brief brought to you by a 05:34.840 --> 05:44.800 biologist I'm sick I can barely catch my breath I think it's so important that 05:44.800 --> 05:50.120 we talk about this while we can that I'm doing it now anyway and because I 05:50.120 --> 05:57.640 don't want to waste any chance to talk to Joseph just running quick don't take 05:57.640 --> 06:02.800 debate on social media we've been fooled into solving this mystery people are 06:02.800 --> 06:07.520 writing books about it and it doesn't matter what's true it matters what 06:07.520 --> 06:14.000 people think is true and so if everybody believes there's a gain of function 06:14.000 --> 06:19.200 virus that got leaked out 20 in 2020 it doesn't really matter what the truth 06:19.200 --> 06:23.920 is and that's especially true for our children it's especially true for 06:23.920 --> 06:29.440 non-biologist people that don't have the time to catch up and so a short way of 06:29.440 --> 06:32.920 telling them is the transaction is an immunization a longer way of telling 06:32.920 --> 06:37.280 them is an intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the 06:37.280 --> 06:41.280 intent of augmenting your immune system in general is dumb especially for a 06:41.280 --> 06:47.200 respiratory virus and it's this illusion of consensus that has been 06:47.200 --> 06:53.640 created by these people on social media that has led us to believe that this is 06:53.640 --> 06:59.320 the case and it is this illusion of consensus I'm trying to break through 06:59.320 --> 07:08.440 by analyzing very carefully where everybody stood in 2020 and in 2020 my 07:08.480 --> 07:14.880 next guest for today showed up pretty darn early in 2020 with some pretty darn 07:14.880 --> 07:22.400 fundamental immunology fundamental biology which he wrote up and disseminated 07:22.400 --> 07:32.280 it was ignored that guy is this fella I'm gonna bring over here on this on the 07:32.280 --> 07:40.040 screen now with my magic movement of zoom here if I can get it up on the no 07:40.040 --> 07:46.920 now what I do sorry Joe I just lost my mouse here or something like that I 07:46.920 --> 07:50.840 don't know what happened I gotta get up a little higher what oh yeah there we go 07:50.840 --> 08:00.080 shoot there he is you're not unmuted though I don't think did I mute you or 08:00.080 --> 08:06.800 unmute you or what did I do there we go so it's been a while sir have you 08:06.800 --> 08:10.960 made any progress with teaching this basic biology to everyone or is it just 08:10.960 --> 08:17.600 more of the same more of the same more of the same with it with a 08:20.600 --> 08:25.600 so I don't know where you want to start you should start where you want to start 08:25.600 --> 08:38.680 and I'll listen cuz my voice is trash so well I guess so I'll be getting so 08:38.680 --> 08:53.680 well the real beginning of your sound is really rough okay that might be a 08:53.680 --> 09:00.920 little better yeah maybe you're directional mic so the issue was 09:00.920 --> 09:08.920 anyway I realized relative to how 09:08.920 --> 09:16.560 and that's because you know when you say a rhino virus 09:16.560 --> 09:33.960 so that's why well I know 09:38.160 --> 09:42.600 holy shit this is really bad you gotta log out and log in again it's too bad 09:43.600 --> 09:47.680 happens if you just go out and come back in 10:03.360 --> 10:09.240 darn is that annoying anyway he's coming back let's see if this works 10:10.240 --> 10:16.520 well I hear when you start talking let's see if you try it again so basically 10:16.520 --> 10:24.280 when you get a cold a rhino virus infected cells it replicates and then it 10:24.280 --> 10:32.200 affects other cells so why is it people should have to tell and that's another 10:32.200 --> 10:41.400 cell why would that cycle ever stop I don't think if you understand why that 10:41.400 --> 10:47.560 cycle stop but maybe that's why everything now clearly there are times 10:47.560 --> 10:54.080 where I get a cold and I'm down for three four days then I'm over it and there 10:54.080 --> 10:59.520 were there wasn't coming for antibodies to build up so I figured can't be 10:59.520 --> 11:05.920 antibody so I said let me think this through and try to figure it out so if 11:05.920 --> 11:14.440 I pretend to be a cell and the virus instead one of myself and then the 11:14.440 --> 11:20.680 virus replicates so as soon as the virus infects the cell and that RNA 11:20.680 --> 11:30.360 inside the cell is the enemy I have to destroy it so that viral RNA or the 11:30.360 --> 11:40.200 enemy I must destroy it in this pandemic not one scientist at a theory on how we 11:40.200 --> 11:47.840 actually defeated the virus I mean there's all this talk about antibody but in the 11:47.840 --> 11:57.840 year 2020 what a million of us and 99% of us survived and no one 11:57.840 --> 12:03.960 explained that the biggest gap in our understanding so if you acknowledge that 12:03.960 --> 12:11.920 once the COVID virus it's the enemy and what should we do with the enemy we 12:11.920 --> 12:20.200 should destroy it what else can we do that viral RNA we shouldn't 12:20.200 --> 12:26.720 absolutely help it and it wants to become protein so we cannot actually 12:26.720 --> 12:32.120 help it what's the third thing we can do we can tell all of the other ones I 12:32.120 --> 12:38.080 want to fight it so when I went back to my desk with this up all the answers 12:39.080 --> 12:48.000 one what this voice RNA ribonucleus environment well viral RNA inside our 12:48.000 --> 12:54.760 lung cells is RNA now just because something is different 12:54.760 --> 12:59.680 something different on paper does that mean that people should I'm not 13:00.680 --> 13:08.240 absolutely not so viral RNA is a strand of inflammation it doesn't look much 13:08.240 --> 13:14.960 different from our expand of RNA but it's they're all just information and if 13:14.960 --> 13:20.740 our ribonucleus enzymes in this way are on why wouldn't it be within the 13:21.740 --> 13:29.940 viral RNA it's that so when I think a lot of this out I told my mentor the 13:29.940 --> 13:35.460 direct of our project this was the May of 2020 he was shocked it's all I'd be 13:35.460 --> 13:39.980 going to talk home I didn't know what it meant like this we kept in touch with 13:39.980 --> 13:48.940 their actions October of 2020 I sent my first word about my plane look our 13:48.940 --> 13:56.900 lungs for an air pocket our body is 70% water this walk if our lungs barrier 13:56.900 --> 14:01.380 can keep water molecules out of our lungs water molecules are clean they 14:01.380 --> 14:06.460 weigh 18 dollars COVID antibodies weigh a hundred twenty five thousand dollars 14:06.460 --> 14:13.460 there's no way so I sent this letter to every member of Congress I sent just 14:13.460 --> 14:18.020 about the email to our people on the email and so eventually Dr. Emily 14:18.020 --> 14:25.460 was right under Dr. Frosty be quiet we're having about a month later and he 14:25.460 --> 14:30.460 tried to basically dismiss my concern and he said well our clinical data looks 14:30.460 --> 14:36.060 really good and I replied with the seventy three people I mean every point 14:36.060 --> 14:44.140 point you have other incredible data you think their vaccines work because of a 14:44.140 --> 14:49.500 neutralizing antibodies in the lung air space that sounds the virus before the 14:49.500 --> 14:55.580 virus that's a lung cell now you really believe that but I still use that 14:55.580 --> 15:02.700 antibody has no viable path to the lung surgery it's waiting to death if a 15:02.700 --> 15:06.900 watermark do it to the baseball a COVID antibody it looks like it's a car 15:06.900 --> 15:12.420 on so there's no password once I explained this I thought it would end 15:13.140 --> 15:17.580 they never respond to that one I put a US clock right on and must have sent that 15:17.580 --> 15:24.580 word it's thousands of people in my CDC FCO when I would call the CDC director 15:24.580 --> 15:30.980 it was it was crazy you know I'm not small just by three by itself and a 15:30.980 --> 15:35.980 very nice and polite and it doesn't take me very long to send it 50 I think blood 15:35.980 --> 15:42.340 brain barrier you understand blood blood lung barrier it's tight enough to 15:42.340 --> 15:47.700 stop our lungs from filling up with water and you think that's called dance 15:47.700 --> 15:53.580 when the answer by the boss it's a mistake and you you copied the flu 15:53.580 --> 15:59.420 vaccine you assumed that the flu vaccine worked and you copied the flu 15:59.420 --> 16:02.940 vaccine because there was nothing else to do that but we're trying to get 16:02.940 --> 16:09.220 medically and what's similar well flu and what do we ask for that the flu 16:09.220 --> 16:13.100 vaccine from things that don't work we're just saying inside let's make the 16:13.100 --> 16:18.940 coin really bad before the same thing about it except the flu vaccine had the 16:18.940 --> 16:25.380 same flow it never worked for you to never work to see you have that knee 16:25.380 --> 16:29.380 blazing antibody but they thought it did and no one knows about question that 16:29.380 --> 16:36.220 why they had a built-in speech but what they're saying changed on it how can 16:36.220 --> 16:43.260 you blame hard-working fire when they have a very very busy you have to say 16:43.260 --> 16:48.100 okay try our next year that was to believe it wasn't the reason why the 16:48.100 --> 16:51.900 flu vaccine was actually horrible results you look up from with the PS1 16:52.900 --> 16:59.860 it didn't work because the antibody never makes me so long 16:59.860 --> 17:03.180 and that's the same for the code that they have now when we see the director 17:03.180 --> 17:08.780 for the story talk the FDA talks to hundreds of people email back and four 17:08.780 --> 17:13.380 or five people sales and my own I remember the media director of your 17:14.380 --> 17:20.700 he sat there looking to make a point for me and I said you get in front of 17:20.700 --> 17:25.080 this because there's nothing you actually did wrong with now what I'm 17:25.080 --> 17:36.380 dependent on all the issues but so far so that you know now if you keep wanting 17:36.380 --> 17:45.660 to sell this this might be approved I can approve when there is not a single 17:45.660 --> 17:50.220 scientist at the FDA explain how the car can antibody cross your own area 17:50.220 --> 17:56.040 long fix that you should have you should have a warning label on every 17:56.040 --> 18:01.840 vaccine that's not a single FDA scientist understand how this again from 18:01.840 --> 18:08.020 antibody cross the one better okay so the FDA with you need to hung up on the 18:08.020 --> 18:15.000 application right now so it was incredible to remember people who wouldn't do the 18:15.000 --> 18:26.920 right thing so going back to the antibody it can't cross one barrier there is you 18:26.920 --> 18:32.860 know is there one second is there any chance you have like headphones with a 18:32.860 --> 18:38.920 mic or any other microphone I'm gonna summarize what you said now while you 18:38.920 --> 18:44.500 look hold on so what he started with was the cycle of infection and he started 18:44.500 --> 18:49.260 with the explanation that the cycle of infection infects one cell and the 18:49.260 --> 18:54.340 virus replicates and releases virus and other cells are infected so if you do 18:54.340 --> 18:58.760 this cartoon in your head what's to stop this infection from ever stopping 18:58.760 --> 19:04.000 why wouldn't it just keep infecting more cells and more cells and more cells the 19:04.000 --> 19:08.520 reason why it doesn't is because of innate immunity and the reason why the 19:08.520 --> 19:13.080 vast majority of us clear it with four days is because something else happens 19:13.080 --> 19:19.620 and antibodies aren't produced in four days and so he started to think what is 19:19.620 --> 19:25.040 really going on here and he realized with again very basic biological 19:25.040 --> 19:29.440 thinking that the RNA is the enemy of the cell the RNA gets in the cell and 19:29.440 --> 19:34.320 does the damage the RNA needs to make proteins the RNA needs to make copies 19:34.320 --> 19:40.920 of itself so let's not help but do that let's start autophagy let's let's work 19:40.920 --> 19:46.960 with RNA RNA enzymes to get rid of this RNA like we would get rid of any other 19:46.980 --> 19:52.480 RNA that we don't need anymore or is for it and perhaps the most important 19:52.480 --> 19:58.440 discovery or realization oh my gosh that's so much better what did you do I have 19:58.440 --> 20:05.600 another mic oh gosh that's fantastic oh my gosh that's great and so then he gets 20:05.600 --> 20:09.120 to the stage where he realizes that a hundred twenty thousand kilo Dalton 20:09.120 --> 20:15.040 antibody has no chance of getting across the lung blood barrier on its own and 20:15.080 --> 20:18.880 if you look into the way that the immune system functions the only way that a 20:18.880 --> 20:23.360 B cell can get to that side of the lungs is with the help of a T cell and that's 20:23.360 --> 20:28.120 also requires a lot of link recognition that wouldn't happen under the pretense 20:28.120 --> 20:32.840 of a transfection to a single spike protein so that's probably more than we 20:32.840 --> 20:38.520 need to talk about there but he ended with saying that the flu vaccine is 20:38.520 --> 20:45.080 another similar misaimed therapeutic in the sense of trying to generate 20:45.080 --> 20:49.720 seroprevalent antibodies for something that is on the outside of your mucosal 20:49.720 --> 20:55.040 layer and the outside of your epithelial cells with no real means of that 20:55.040 --> 20:59.720 protein getting there you're essentially telling stories about how the flu 20:59.720 --> 21:04.920 vaccine will save old people when in reality it won't and so that's where he 21:04.920 --> 21:08.040 left off that's where we are right here and that's indeed basically what he 21:08.040 --> 21:12.360 said the last time he was here so now we can get into the new stuff I love your 21:12.360 --> 21:19.080 new mic yeah so a couple more things you know when when I wrote the 73 page letter 21:19.080 --> 21:23.800 I told Dr. Belling look you gotta really think about this carefully because I'm 21:23.800 --> 21:28.320 not saying that you guys are all liars you did the clinical trial and you got 21:28.320 --> 21:34.520 great results but you thought those great results were because of the antibody 21:34.520 --> 21:43.240 inside the lung airspace I show you there's no way that can happen so then 21:43.240 --> 21:47.480 why did you get good results because I don't think you guys you guys are 21:47.480 --> 21:53.120 lying okay so we need to find another reason because science is always about 21:53.120 --> 21:58.040 how does it work well you thought it worked via a neutralizing antibody it 21:58.040 --> 22:02.720 clearly works because you're not all liars so how did it work okay so the 22:02.720 --> 22:07.240 COVID vaccine when you get it gives you muscle aches why because it tricks 22:07.240 --> 22:11.720 your body into making chemokines including interferon the very well 22:11.720 --> 22:16.800 known fact in every review study they say this okay so interferon is 22:16.800 --> 22:23.840 antiviral including anti-covid it's antiviral in a million papers so if 22:23.840 --> 22:28.680 your side effect is a reason why your vaccine had such great results look look 22:28.680 --> 22:34.480 at the scenario the J&J vaccine had 50% efficacy oh you only trick your body 22:34.480 --> 22:41.440 one time into making interferon AstraZeneca had a 75 to 80% success well 22:41.440 --> 22:46.240 because it's it's two shots two times you trick your body into making interferon 22:46.240 --> 22:50.680 now the mRNA is a very strong adjuvant it may it tricks your body to making a 22:50.680 --> 22:56.560 lot of interferon but then it becomes COVID spike antigen and that tricks your 22:56.560 --> 23:01.120 body again it's like getting a second shot so twice you trick your body but 23:01.120 --> 23:05.760 remember they they started with it with two two shots the main one in the 23:05.760 --> 23:09.520 booster so you get the booster the mRNA again tricks your body into making 23:09.520 --> 23:15.000 interferon and then the booster becomes at so four times you trick your body 23:15.000 --> 23:22.080 into making interferon in a five or six month study so why did you get great 23:22.080 --> 23:26.840 results you got great results because of the side effect of the vaccine which 23:26.840 --> 23:33.000 meant that the vaccine was acting as a pro drug which means that it's a 23:33.000 --> 23:39.800 medicine which means that in science we don't give medicines when somebody 23:39.800 --> 23:44.040 doesn't have the disease because the risk-benefit ratio never works out now I 23:44.040 --> 23:50.960 explained all this to them in 73 pages in February of 2021 so I was far 23:50.960 --> 23:54.680 advanced because you have to think like a scientist you have to explain how 23:54.680 --> 23:59.240 things work if you don't know how something works you can't just say we 23:59.240 --> 24:04.360 have great data because rain dancers had amazing data but you're the rain 24:04.360 --> 24:09.520 dance then it rains they had a hundred percent efficacy so data is meaningless 24:09.520 --> 24:14.960 in science without a hypothesis starts with the hypotheses if you don't have a 24:14.960 --> 24:19.840 hypotheses your science is infinitely weaker than my science if I have less 24:19.920 --> 24:24.680 data but a better hypotheses my science is better that's just the way science 24:24.680 --> 24:31.280 works so when I explain all this to me of course it made complete sense I knew 24:31.280 --> 24:35.400 it was important and I try to get it out to everyone no one would listen the 24:35.400 --> 24:38.680 everyone was scared I don't I don't know if they were scared or if they were all 24:38.680 --> 24:43.880 in on it or if they were all had an incredible number of stock options in 24:43.880 --> 24:48.400 Moderna and Pfizer and they all were just waiting to make money I have no idea but 24:48.400 --> 24:54.080 I know the FDA was behaving in a very corrupt manner and you know I got all 24:54.080 --> 24:58.120 this to their even their chief legal counsel so I had back and forth back and 24:58.120 --> 25:03.960 forth with so many people they are on the hook now the prep act says if 25:03.960 --> 25:07.900 organization the prep act gives organizations working with vaccines 25:07.900 --> 25:13.040 legal immunity but there is an exception that will form its conduct now they're 25:13.040 --> 25:22.760 all open for potential lawsuits because you you may negated your legal 25:22.760 --> 25:29.360 immunity by Wolf Ole Miss conduct and clearly people have severe side effects 25:29.360 --> 25:34.140 okay so that was all that holding now see if anyone wants to say well the 25:34.140 --> 25:40.340 antibody was really important I the ultimate argument is look at 2020 how 25:40.340 --> 25:45.500 many people in the year 2020 had a COVID-19 antibody there's only two ways 25:45.500 --> 25:51.260 to get it the illness or the vaccine the vaccine didn't exist in 20 way so it 25:51.260 --> 25:58.620 was the illness but no one had it so then no one had a COVID-19 antibody and yet 25:58.620 --> 26:05.220 20 million of us got it look at Tom Hanks seven years of no training of any 26:05.220 --> 26:11.020 kind for COVID-19 he gets it and shakes off in seven to ten days like a 26:11.020 --> 26:18.220 bad cold the COVID vaccine supposedly is amazing but that amazing training is 26:18.220 --> 26:24.220 all gone in one year and you'd be retrained meaning any argument for an 26:24.220 --> 26:31.340 antibody my ultimate argument back to them is the COVID-19 antibody didn't 26:31.340 --> 26:41.740 exist in the year 2020 and yet how do we heal so ribonuclease enzymes I have a 26:41.740 --> 26:46.740 five million one million five million ten dollar bet this is what I say in the 26:46.740 --> 26:55.260 year 2020 the RNase enzyme destroyed more viral COVID viral mRNA within our 26:55.260 --> 27:02.460 lung cells than any other molecule and no one will take me up on the bed see in 27:02.460 --> 27:07.100 science you have to have my hypotheses we did heal 20 million of us 27:07.100 --> 27:14.500 19 million of us healed under 45 99.9% of us healed how did we heal because see 27:14.500 --> 27:21.020 I'm a surgeon and if my assistant is brand new and she doesn't know what I'm 27:21.020 --> 27:26.260 doing she's not very helpful she doesn't know what my goals are she 27:26.260 --> 27:30.900 doesn't know what my next step is if she just keeps handing me a scalpel she's 27:30.900 --> 27:35.220 not very helpful now if I have an assistant who's done thousands of cases 27:35.220 --> 27:39.220 with me they anticipate my next move they know what I'm gonna do next and 27:39.220 --> 27:47.580 they're very useful and they help me a lot so if you don't know what the human 27:47.580 --> 27:52.940 body did to help us overcome COVID in the year 2020 and it didn't use a 27:52.940 --> 27:59.420 COVID antibody if you don't know what it did you can't say you're helping it and 27:59.420 --> 28:06.060 for absolute certainty the human body did not use a COVID-19 antibody which did 28:06.060 --> 28:16.940 not exist so RNase so my hypotheses is that the viral RNA inside our lung cells 28:16.940 --> 28:22.980 in the year 2020 that was the enemy and RNase is amazingly efficient at 28:22.980 --> 28:30.020 destroying RNA and RNase can destroy our RNA can destroy viral RNA can destroy 28:30.020 --> 28:34.460 vaccine RNA it's just sheets of paper it really doesn't matter what you print on 28:34.460 --> 28:38.980 it you can print the Empire State Building design on a piece of paper and 28:38.980 --> 28:44.860 the paper structure can handle it so RNA viral RNA is just like that it's just 28:44.860 --> 28:52.540 long strands of information GCAU and you can handle that but the RNase can 28:52.540 --> 28:57.100 handle that now the RNase is incredibly efficient and it destroys it's very 28:57.100 --> 29:02.060 very powerful and efficient at destroying RNA so it has an inhibitor bound to it 29:02.060 --> 29:06.900 because we would never be able to grow we our cells could never replicate and 29:06.900 --> 29:12.100 divide if the cells weren't growing well if you don't have our RNA and we're not 29:12.140 --> 29:18.980 making protein we can't grow so RNase has to be inhibited so it has a very 29:18.980 --> 29:23.500 strong inhibitor on there that's the most tightly bound two molecules that we 29:23.500 --> 29:29.100 know in nature in biological chemistry there's no molecule that is better 29:29.100 --> 29:33.340 studied than the RNase enzyme that's how well it's been studied there are 29:33.340 --> 29:39.500 thousands of papers on it we also know that the inhibitor comes off when it's 29:39.500 --> 29:46.660 oxidized so see in our evolution there were times when we didn't have food for 29:46.660 --> 29:52.340 days even weeks we didn't just die imagine if I live a hundred thousand 29:52.340 --> 29:57.940 years ago and my buddy gets a thousand calories for the we don't have a lot of 29:57.940 --> 30:03.220 food I have a thousand calories we don't have a lot of food he uses half his food 30:03.220 --> 30:08.300 to grow his cells and the other half to move and find food I don't grow it all 30:08.300 --> 30:13.260 I use her thousand calories I use a hundred percent to move so I can find 30:13.260 --> 30:21.100 food who's going to win I will win because I like to say that I will win 30:21.100 --> 30:28.900 because I'm using all my calories to move and I'm controlling my growth so we 30:28.900 --> 30:32.940 have an amazingly efficient way to tell ourselves you better not grow when there 30:32.940 --> 30:40.500 aren't resources 70% of a dry weight of a cell is protein if you don't have 30:40.500 --> 30:46.260 mRNA you can't make protein your cell will not undergo mitosis so that 30:46.260 --> 30:52.220 identical system that we've evolved with and we've had since we were that 30:52.220 --> 31:00.980 primordial one cell that came out of that ooze bacteria do it every DNA cell 31:00.980 --> 31:05.700 on earth controls its growth because when there aren't resources you should 31:05.700 --> 31:11.900 control your growth and you know ourselves when we're hungry they don't 31:11.900 --> 31:17.180 just start hoarding glucose because the brain needs glucose they don't just try 31:17.180 --> 31:22.180 to quickly grow they don't do that what they do is that they all uniformly say 31:22.180 --> 31:26.500 let's all slow down because that's the only way this organism will survive and 31:26.980 --> 31:32.140 the master way we control our growth is to stop protein production there's 31:32.140 --> 31:36.100 many ways to do this there's short-term ways long-term ways all sorts of 31:36.100 --> 31:44.980 enzymes and inhibitors but reduced eliminate RNA is an amazing way and that 31:44.980 --> 31:50.060 kicks in and so this is what I found when you're fasting your reactive oxygen 31:50.060 --> 31:58.860 substrates go up it's like a wisdom too much wood not enough air less wood more 31:58.860 --> 32:04.100 air inside ourselves less glucose you have more oxygen more oxygen 32:04.100 --> 32:09.260 substrates oxidized the inhibitor the inhibitor comes off and it's right there 32:09.260 --> 32:15.380 on the ready it doesn't take a month to get peak values like the antibody oh 32:15.380 --> 32:19.220 you're you know you're sick with the virus you're gonna wait a month for the 32:19.220 --> 32:24.540 stupid antibody to show up our RNA's are right there on the ready all you 32:24.540 --> 32:30.220 have to do stop eating your pizza so it felt you ever get sick send him a pizza 32:30.220 --> 32:33.860 everyone send him a pizza encourage him to eat find his favorite pizza give it to 32:33.860 --> 32:40.500 him because it'll kill him I'm not proposing violence I'm just saying that 32:40.500 --> 32:44.860 they always want peer-reviewed studies from me well near England General 32:44.900 --> 32:49.260 medicine chief editor was arguing with me non-stop who's going to publish anything 32:49.260 --> 32:56.340 I have to say so here's my here's my here's my here's my retrospective clinical 32:56.340 --> 33:03.180 trial a trillion mammals in the past million years whenever they get sick the 33:03.180 --> 33:09.580 young ones they get fussy and they don't eat and if you're a parent you know this 33:09.580 --> 33:13.980 to be true and if you're an animal lover you know your dog does the same thing 33:14.620 --> 33:23.260 but humans we really got fussy with our food we make amazing food we didn't 33:23.260 --> 33:26.860 have this a hundred thousand years ago evolution can't catch up that quickly 33:26.860 --> 33:31.940 it can't say oh I think I'm going to anticipate this amazing spaghetti 33:31.940 --> 33:35.940 factory and I'm going to make this desire not to even stronger it can't do 33:35.940 --> 33:41.180 that but our toddlers all listen to their body and look at who was really sick who 33:41.180 --> 33:47.980 was really sick during the pandemic the obese why were women less sick because 33:47.980 --> 33:53.100 they were often dieting if you're dieting you have more active RNA 33:53.100 --> 33:58.100 enzymes and you're you could more quickly activate those than somebody 33:58.100 --> 34:01.100 who's been eating a lot because when there's all these resources in your body 34:01.100 --> 34:04.300 you can't trick yourselves I'm saying there's no glucose when they see glucose 34:04.300 --> 34:09.740 floating all around them you have three big meals and you catch COVID you're 34:09.740 --> 34:17.860 more likely to die and this also explains the elderly so my theory on 34:17.860 --> 34:23.540 why the elderly are at increased risk of death obviously their lung lung function 34:23.540 --> 34:30.980 is diminished but it's not diminished by 80% so why are the elderly at higher risk 34:30.980 --> 34:35.900 because they're dramatically at high risk well you know I was explaining RNA RNA 34:35.900 --> 34:42.980 is incredibly simply recycled it's just a strip it's like paper you recycle it 34:42.980 --> 34:47.180 perfectly inside the cell there's no leftover RNA oh we haven't been able to 34:47.180 --> 34:53.020 get this one proteins are different every protein looks different and the 34:53.020 --> 34:57.860 process of recycling proteins is a lot more complicated inside is efficient so 34:57.860 --> 35:02.060 you're going to have defunct proteins and they're just floating around in the 35:02.420 --> 35:09.660 cell as you get older and they all have oxidizable groups so when you stop 35:09.660 --> 35:14.020 eating it takes a lot longer for the right one nucleus inhibitor to be 35:14.020 --> 35:18.060 oxidized because you can get through all the other proteins first there's a big 35:18.060 --> 35:22.860 buffer in there so that's why when you're when you're older you should never eat 35:22.860 --> 35:27.180 two big meals you should always have small meals because you want to be 35:27.180 --> 35:32.940 ready to be able to fast when you get a sore throat now if you've had you know 35:32.940 --> 35:36.620 if you've been quarantined for three days and then you get exposed to COVID you 35:36.620 --> 35:43.220 may very well die so see how my current paradigm explains a lot more than 35:43.220 --> 35:46.500 their stupid antibody I can't believe I have to explain this over and over 35:46.500 --> 35:51.860 scientists the COVID antibody wasn't even there in the year 2020 shows up a 35:51.860 --> 35:58.540 month late they say well get through via trans cytosis trans cytosis every 35:58.540 --> 36:04.220 study they ever done on trans cytosis it's a lab model you know you look at the 36:04.220 --> 36:08.260 alveolus the capillary the size of the capillary there's 7,000 nanometer 36:08.260 --> 36:14.100 diameter red blood cells zipping around the alveolus and the antibodies 10 36:14.100 --> 36:18.500 nanometers and it's gonna stick to the sidewall and not get bumped off by these 36:18.500 --> 36:24.020 zipping anti red blood cells they're dreaming trans cytosis in some 36:24.020 --> 36:31.300 trans well model in the lab BS okay it's just a diagram little thing trans cytosis 36:31.300 --> 36:36.060 is almost always referred to in reverse from the lung airspace back into the 36:36.060 --> 36:40.020 bloodstream and it's a little bit more quiet on the other side is it possible 36:40.020 --> 36:45.340 yes I don't believe it because clearly we make antibodies so easily why do we 36:45.340 --> 36:50.500 have to recycle a few that are left and you it's just they're everything about 36:50.500 --> 36:56.860 the vaccines and antibodies and viruses the reason why I was able to find so 36:56.860 --> 37:03.140 many things they're wrong about their basic premise anti-plies aren't useful 37:03.140 --> 37:08.140 against in our fight against viruses what why am I single-handedly able to find 37:08.140 --> 37:13.400 so much crap because their whole premise is wrong you know you go back to 37:13.400 --> 37:21.080 Edward Jenner the first immunization he gave them the little boy cowpox and 37:21.080 --> 37:23.880 then a couple months later he gave the voice smallpox and he said wow the 37:23.880 --> 37:32.440 kids okay I don't know what stupid parent agreed to that but the cowpox and 37:32.440 --> 37:37.280 smallpox sound the same but we all know immunize if you're immune to cowpox 37:37.280 --> 37:41.080 you're not immune smallpox the viruses on the surface are completely utterly 37:41.080 --> 37:49.040 different so Edward Jenner had an end of one that was only only patient I ever 37:49.040 --> 37:53.680 have heard of that somebody thought an immunologist thought this person is 37:53.680 --> 37:58.520 immune well how do you really know if this person is immune you give them the 37:58.520 --> 38:04.120 virus okay this person is immune to smallpox you can give them the virus 38:04.120 --> 38:10.080 they've never done it again that I know of in a clinical trial why because 38:10.080 --> 38:16.160 clearly that is unethical okay that's your limitation though so science just 38:16.160 --> 38:18.760 because it's an ethical doesn't mean you can automatically assume the other part 38:18.760 --> 38:24.520 of the site is correct so that being unethical an end of one where they've 38:24.520 --> 38:28.280 actually inoculated a person with a virus that supposedly they were immune to 38:28.280 --> 38:33.440 end of one and look how easily I destroyed that cowpox smallpox I'm not 38:33.440 --> 38:37.280 thinking he wasn't even immune he could have lied you know if somebody says oh 38:37.320 --> 38:41.680 right I've achieved fusion in the lab how many people try to debunk him and it 38:41.680 --> 38:45.760 was never repeated that end of one and they ran with it and they used it and 38:45.760 --> 38:53.480 they forever said look vaccination works this person's immune okay have you ever 38:53.480 --> 38:58.480 seen smallpox have you ever seen the horrible agents if you're a 20 year 38:58.480 --> 39:04.280 woman and you get smallpox that might be the end of your life you may never 39:04.280 --> 39:09.080 have children never get married because your perfect skin now it's just a mess 39:09.080 --> 39:13.280 deep craters during the learning the August it's horrible you've got a huge 39:13.280 --> 39:16.520 elevated red thing that you just look in the mirror and you just want to kill 39:16.520 --> 39:26.200 yourself and then after the scars are forever all over and you think this 39:26.200 --> 39:33.440 person is going to ever get near another smallpox patient I can 39:33.800 --> 39:41.080 the memory is in the brain so how did they how did they can believe that this 39:41.080 --> 39:47.840 person who had smallpox had lifelong immunity well the lifelong memory is in 39:47.840 --> 39:51.960 the brain and that person is never going to get near another smallpox 39:51.960 --> 39:57.640 patient again and we all know that smallpox is not nearly as transmissible as 39:57.640 --> 40:01.920 COVID you have to have significantly more face-to-face time to get smallpox 40:01.920 --> 40:07.560 than to get COVID so that person's not gonna stay near that for a patient he's 40:07.560 --> 40:11.280 gonna run five miles away that's where the memory is and then they want to say 40:11.280 --> 40:19.600 okay so how come you have antibodies then look hepatitis B we we have 40:19.600 --> 40:25.520 antibodies that doesn't mean we have immunity to it it usually means we have 40:25.520 --> 40:33.480 hepatitis B HIV we have antibodies to HIV that doesn't mean at all that we're 40:33.480 --> 40:39.840 immune to HIV that just means we're sick isn't it very possible that smallpox 40:39.840 --> 40:47.840 some of the DNA genes stayed in some cell and those cells keep producing the 40:47.840 --> 40:52.240 surface antigen but aren't capable of producing the complete virus that's what 40:52.240 --> 40:56.240 happens with hepatitis B the liver cells create infinitely more 40:56.240 --> 41:01.600 hepatitis B surface antigen than an intact virus we actually measure how 41:01.600 --> 41:05.560 somebody's doing by how much hepatitis B surface antigen they they produce their 41:05.560 --> 41:13.160 blood so why can't another virus also only produce their surface antigen then 41:13.160 --> 41:18.000 you would form antibodies okay see I have another perfectly excellent theory 41:18.000 --> 41:25.720 hypotheses on why smallpox antibodies are there ten years later it is not for 41:25.720 --> 41:30.400 everyone very few people but every time you read their papers they're always 41:30.400 --> 41:35.760 talking about lifelong immunity and they point to the antibody as proof I point 41:35.760 --> 41:40.400 to the brain that woman's brain is never gonna get near to smallpox patients but 41:40.400 --> 41:46.320 everything that these people did they had what I call a false positive in size 41:46.320 --> 41:52.160 you want to connect the cause to the effect you know a person with smallpox 41:52.160 --> 41:56.440 never get smallpox again that's a good effect they thought it was the antibody 41:56.440 --> 42:02.640 maybe it was just the brain that can go on and on about this so you have to 42:02.640 --> 42:05.880 redirect me because you know I'll go too deep people understand what I'm saying 42:05.880 --> 42:11.560 well let me just reflect on the smallpox thing for a second so Jenner did have 42:11.560 --> 42:16.240 the example of milkmaids who supposedly didn't get correct and that was 42:16.240 --> 42:21.520 what he what he was thinking up the the other thing to notice there is that 42:21.520 --> 42:27.160 variolation for smallpox was done at the barrier of the skin which I would 42:27.160 --> 42:30.680 argue is not such a bad way to try to augment the immune system if you're 42:30.680 --> 42:34.360 gonna do it you should at least do it at a barrier so they weren't injecting 42:34.360 --> 42:42.800 intramuscularly so if they were able to build some immunity with that type of 42:42.800 --> 42:46.800 immunization it would have been because they were augmenting the immune system 42:46.800 --> 42:50.200 at the barrier that it works at rather than trying to inject intramuscularly 42:50.200 --> 42:57.200 which is what we do now so I like the idea of the production of antibodies 42:57.200 --> 43:03.920 equaling the the health status of the animal I also like what you said about 43:03.920 --> 43:08.200 the fact that during a hepatitis infection we're looking at surface 43:08.200 --> 43:13.640 antigen expression as indication of infection there's a few other examples 43:13.640 --> 43:21.280 of where antibodies are tuned specifically to toxins in circulation don't we make 43:21.280 --> 43:27.760 antibodies to the tuberculosis talk tetanus toxin excuse me and so I'm just 43:27.760 --> 43:33.680 wondering I think you've proven beyond a shadow of adult that we have that we 43:33.680 --> 43:38.040 have been bamboozled into believing that antibodies are the primary way that we 43:38.040 --> 43:42.480 defend our body and that's I mean you said this last time you said that 43:42.480 --> 43:50.360 antibodies were tagged and what I am saying is this humans are smartest 43:50.360 --> 43:55.840 humans have never made a medication against the bacteria that works against 43:55.840 --> 44:02.920 the virus because they're utterly different enemies we don't call our 44:02.920 --> 44:11.480 police for rats so if in fact the antibody is very useful against 44:11.480 --> 44:20.320 extracellular pathogens like bacteria why would it work against the virus now 44:20.320 --> 44:26.240 see this is a scenario I'm painting antibodies are very useful against bacteria 44:27.080 --> 44:34.680 so it ramps up antibodies wrap up kind of like the way bacteria ramps up in 44:34.680 --> 44:41.400 our body a few weeks evolution doesn't get things this wrong viruses in two 44:41.400 --> 44:47.120 three days you can be once all a virus and die so everyone knows you get 44:47.120 --> 44:50.840 exposed to a virus at a party and so my sick and a couple days later you're 44:50.840 --> 44:56.400 feeling sick the rate of replication for virus is so extremely ridiculously 44:56.400 --> 45:03.560 crazy that if they were really necessary evolution would have figured it out and 45:03.560 --> 45:11.880 got it correct so a B lymphocyte is faced with an enemy a pathogen comes 45:11.880 --> 45:18.140 towards it this B lymphocyte is not going to try to figure out if it's a 45:18.140 --> 45:27.220 bacteria or a virus it's just gonna pump out antibodies because it's very 45:27.220 --> 45:35.300 useful against bacteria how do you know it's useful against a virus now if you 45:35.300 --> 45:38.900 can imagine a scenario where this B lymphocyte figures out what is a virus 45:38.900 --> 45:43.980 and what is a bacteria and it was an easy way to do it this bacteria this B 45:44.180 --> 45:48.700 lymphocyte does make antibodies which they got it guys guys I have this new 45:48.700 --> 45:53.100 mechanism you're a bacteria so I'm gonna keep make antibodies lots of them but 45:53.100 --> 46:01.020 your virus so I can just rest but there is no way to do that we can barely do 46:01.020 --> 46:07.100 that with our labs and this one little cell is you're never going to figure 46:07.100 --> 46:12.980 out a way for this one cell to figure that out and if you can't imagine a 46:12.980 --> 46:21.100 scenario evolution can't do it so this is every antibody that we have in our 46:21.100 --> 46:28.460 body are you going to automatically assume it's good because we do have 46:28.460 --> 46:32.820 antibodies against our joints does anyone think that's good no that's 46:32.820 --> 46:38.580 rheumatoid arthritis so we do have antibodies against the strep 46:38.580 --> 46:47.540 bacteria and those antibodies cause rheumatic fever because it bound to the 46:47.540 --> 46:53.500 heart valve and destroyed it and that one single antibody was a number one 46:53.500 --> 47:01.660 killer for children under the age of 20 in the early 19th century so you can't 47:01.740 --> 47:09.740 assume just because you found an antibody that is helpful at all you can't assume 47:09.740 --> 47:15.580 that but that's the assumption they made look you get a patient with HIV you have 47:15.580 --> 47:21.100 antibodies to it why didn't it help them oh because it's a really serious virus 47:21.100 --> 47:25.780 oh so the antibodies only work against the really easy viruses that we handle 47:25.780 --> 47:32.980 really easily are you sure then it's not a false positive it's a false positive 47:32.980 --> 47:37.300 because you know when I think the way I think is I always take things to the 47:37.300 --> 47:41.940 extreme and in the process of taking things to extreme the picture becomes 47:41.940 --> 47:48.940 more clear so one of the ways I do it is okay here's a five kilogram bone the 47:48.940 --> 47:55.180 six kilogram ball and it's going down a slant in kind of 30 degrees 10 feet 47:56.940 --> 48:02.380 which ball gets to the bottom faster and what I do in my mind is this I make the 48:02.380 --> 48:07.580 bigger ball six kilogram I make it a thousand kilograms and I make the five 48:07.580 --> 48:12.860 kilogram of the small one I make it a BB what happens when you let a BB go you 48:12.860 --> 48:19.340 can start zipping down what happens when you let this thousand kilogram 48:19.340 --> 48:23.420 ball that's 50 feet wide what happens when you release it you know it's not 48:23.420 --> 48:29.500 gonna start going there's inertia and immediately I have the answer I don't 48:29.500 --> 48:36.060 even have to do math now if the incline is 10 miles long the big one will win the 48:36.060 --> 48:40.460 BB has a maximum speed of four miles per hour and the big one get the maximum 48:40.460 --> 48:44.220 speed of 200 miles per hour so if it's a long incline the big one will win but 48:44.220 --> 48:49.260 see it's always good to stretch out the question because when you stretch out 48:49.260 --> 48:57.980 the question the answer manifests so let's take two scenarios a person that 48:57.980 --> 49:04.020 has no ribonucleus enzymes and no method to destroy the viruses like 49:04.020 --> 49:13.140 the cell and a person who has no covid antibodies and no way to block the 49:13.140 --> 49:18.540 virus from getting inside the cell I have two extreme scenarios oh but I don't 49:18.540 --> 49:25.820 even need a hypothetical for this one Tom Hanks had no covid antibodies and no 49:25.820 --> 49:29.300 training of any kind for seven years for any kind of covid virus covid 19 49:29.340 --> 49:36.220 virus and he got better in 10 days perfect example the other side plenty 49:36.220 --> 49:44.220 of antibodies but nothing inside the cell to destroy the viral RNA now each 49:44.220 --> 49:51.260 infected cell so you've got an occupation dose of 100 viruses the 49:51.260 --> 49:58.220 antibodies are really good they blocked 99 percent one gets in 99 percent is 49:58.220 --> 50:05.580 amazing kill rate one gets in no way to destroy it once it got in now there's 50:05.580 --> 50:13.020 50,000 copies those 50,000 all come out and you're again really good you blocked 50:13.020 --> 50:19.700 99 percent well you have 500 now you started with 100 now you have 500 you 50:19.700 --> 50:26.380 can do the math and it gets explosive so you see when you take things to the 50:26.380 --> 50:32.900 extreme everything starts to clear up in your mind to believe that an antibody 50:32.900 --> 50:38.140 was useful we have the biggest experiment in the history of medicine 20 million 50:38.140 --> 50:42.700 Americans got covid in the year 2020 and not a single one had a covid 19 50:42.700 --> 50:48.820 antibody there was that's the biggest experiment all their stupid peer 50:48.820 --> 50:54.260 reviewed papers over the past three and a half years they were using a wrong 50:54.260 --> 51:00.900 worldview paradigm and they got all the answers wrong and you know paradigm 51:00.900 --> 51:04.300 medicine don't occur very often there will probably be and there will probably 51:04.300 --> 51:11.460 never be another one this big in anyone's lifetime because false positives are 51:11.460 --> 51:16.500 what happened when you have too many false positives and you hold on to that 51:16.500 --> 51:20.580 false positive like the rain dancers they had great data every time they did 51:20.580 --> 51:26.700 rain dance it rained they had great data but they had no hypotheses connecting 51:26.700 --> 51:34.580 the rain dance to the rain so that's always what happens in science whenever 51:34.580 --> 51:42.780 you have the cause and it's too far from the effect bizarreness results like when 51:42.780 --> 51:48.660 I press my gas pedal my car starts going in a second that's a very short 51:48.660 --> 51:53.660 amount of time there's not room for a false positive to insert itself and take 51:53.660 --> 51:57.540 credit for that it was my foot that pressed on the gas pedal that made my 51:57.540 --> 52:02.820 car go but whenever the time between cause and effect is prolonged just like 52:02.820 --> 52:09.060 rain dance to rain six months oh with a vaccine the vaccine the effect is what 52:09.060 --> 52:13.860 first it was you and get sick then they move the goal post are you and get 52:13.860 --> 52:19.060 severely sick now they're not even sure what to say so you don't even know what 52:19.060 --> 52:26.380 the effect was but what you don't have any science you know oh but you did catch 52:26.380 --> 52:30.420 one virus and so this is my thing you live on a farmhouse with a hundred 52:30.420 --> 52:38.700 cats and you never see mice you put out one mousetrap you catch one mouse and 52:38.700 --> 52:44.620 you're certain that that mousetrap is a reason why you don't have mice what about 52:44.620 --> 52:51.380 the hundred cats they were eating mice hundred eight why can't it be that it is 52:51.380 --> 52:56.780 that so this false positive with vaccines and antibodies against viruses 52:56.780 --> 53:01.860 was extremely tricky because they actually caught they actually stuck the 53:01.860 --> 53:06.980 antibody on the virus and it stuck but remember that happens with HIV it 53:06.980 --> 53:10.700 happens with all sorts of viruses and stuff like this E we V and it doesn't 53:10.700 --> 53:15.500 help you picked all the easy viruses that we had a very well and then you got 53:15.500 --> 53:19.180 right in front of it like the rain dancers hmm and then you thought it was 53:19.180 --> 53:26.380 you it was never you and that's why there's 20 million infected Americans in 53:26.380 --> 53:30.940 your 20 20 that's why it's the biggest study in the history of earth because 53:30.940 --> 53:38.700 we're 99.99% confident none of them had a COVID-19 antibody and yet they yield so 53:38.700 --> 53:41.660 there are a couple other things you can add to this when you talk to other people 53:41.660 --> 53:47.100 the first one is is that mice without B cells can get rid of SARS viruses that 53:47.100 --> 53:53.340 that's been done 10 years amazing see and also there were there were patients in 53:53.380 --> 54:00.140 Italy that had no B cells that survived COVID as well so you're right about that 54:00.140 --> 54:04.780 the one thing that I'm I want you to take to an extreme is have you ever 54:04.780 --> 54:10.740 measured imagine the possibility that that previous respiratory diseases have 54:10.740 --> 54:17.140 been have been balled up into something that they're calling a novel virus but 54:17.140 --> 54:24.580 it's actually not novel what I always do whenever they say that and this is 54:24.580 --> 54:29.020 incredible to me how many times I forget but whenever they make that argument I 54:29.020 --> 54:35.580 say okay but there was a first time for that person that person there was the 54:35.580 --> 54:42.540 first time when he got a viral infection with no antibodies right because the 54:42.540 --> 54:46.180 only way you make antibodies is with the vaccine none of existence so the only 54:46.220 --> 54:50.940 other way is with an infection but there was a time when you got an infection 54:50.940 --> 54:54.100 when you didn't have antibodies for that infection there was always the first 54:54.100 --> 55:00.420 right you keep going back if you keep going back at some point okay so somebody 55:00.420 --> 55:06.780 says that 2019 they had coronaviruses and somebody had coronavirus 55:06.780 --> 55:14.260 like how did he get the antibody he had the infection and he had to wait a few 55:14.260 --> 55:19.740 weeks but he resolved the infection in a week so there's always a first time 55:19.740 --> 55:25.900 when you didn't have antibodies we still resolved right no I agree I'm just I 55:25.900 --> 55:30.580 guess I'm getting at more the idea that what you were saying and have said be 55:30.580 --> 55:38.300 fed in the past is that a a foreign RNA is kind of a similar target it doesn't 55:38.300 --> 55:44.180 really matter what what type of virus it is flu virus coronavirus a rhino virus 55:44.620 --> 55:49.500 it's a foreign RNA molecule that's trying to replicate against your will and 55:49.500 --> 55:56.700 you have to get rid of it so my question is and I think that I'm I'm sort of here 55:56.700 --> 56:03.460 is that I think that a lot of these mechanisms molecular mechanisms be it 56:03.460 --> 56:07.900 natural killer cells T cells B cells antibodies I don't care what molecular 56:07.900 --> 56:12.700 mechanism you're talking about memorizing these these insults and these 56:12.700 --> 56:19.020 foreign signals by the time you're I don't know what by the time you're not 56:19.020 --> 56:23.780 breastfeeding anymore my guess is that you already have a pretty good set of 56:23.780 --> 56:30.700 cellular defenses against general RNA infection and so for me but but then how 56:30.700 --> 56:34.180 did they get that how did they get that by an infection where they didn't have 56:34.180 --> 56:37.700 the antibody yeah but you don't need antibodies we've already decided that 56:37.700 --> 56:43.260 anybody's are bullshit like anybody's exactly anybody's are anybody's are a 56:43.260 --> 56:49.100 specific flavor of candy in a box that we don't rarely we rarely open we only 56:49.100 --> 56:53.860 open that box of candy for certain for certain parties the reason why I'm saying 56:53.860 --> 56:58.100 you know there's two kinds of memory there's the only molecule that we know 56:58.100 --> 57:03.220 has any kind of memory is the antibody interferon cannot be considered memory 57:03.540 --> 57:08.980 because they're always the same thing and and then so far as the cells are 57:08.980 --> 57:13.820 concerned the only cells that we know that have memory like this be in T T 57:13.820 --> 57:17.660 lymphocytes because the B lymphocytes for antibodies T lymphocytes okay so 57:17.660 --> 57:24.060 imagine the scenario there are 300 million alveoli let's estimate 10 lung 57:24.060 --> 57:29.020 alveolar efficacy of cells per alveoli that's three billion cells 57:29.900 --> 57:36.500 okay so the T lymphocytes have to go interview three billion cells every two 57:36.500 --> 57:43.540 days why because once one cell is infected you're not going to kill that 57:43.540 --> 57:50.940 cell because it has one viral mRNA strand inside okay so you don't kill it but in 57:50.940 --> 57:58.740 two days it could be 50,000 so do you see the rest ridiculousness of thinking 57:58.740 --> 58:05.660 that these T cells that have memory are helping us in our fight against viruses 58:05.660 --> 58:10.580 because they would have to interview three billion cells every two days it's 58:10.580 --> 58:16.300 just not physically possible so what I am saying is if you have some you're 58:16.300 --> 58:19.420 wrong though right you know you're wrong there right I mean I'm not gonna try 58:19.420 --> 58:23.620 to be a creep but when cells are infected they don't just sit there they 58:23.620 --> 58:28.500 signal they say they don't interfere on they help with a lot more than interfere 58:28.500 --> 58:32.100 on though they also present on MHC one the proteins that they're maybe yeah I 58:32.100 --> 58:37.260 get all that I get all that J but what I'm saying is how do you determine this 58:37.260 --> 58:41.660 cell that's infected it takes take care of itself and it tries to make sure it 58:41.660 --> 58:46.220 takes care of itself and it tries to make sure that it sends signals to other 58:46.220 --> 58:52.300 cells to fight it which is interfere on but what I'm saying is how do these 58:52.300 --> 58:56.540 T lymphocytes interview three billion cells every two days it's not just T 58:56.540 --> 59:00.980 lymphocytes it's also it's also natural killer cells and it's also antibodies 59:00.980 --> 59:07.220 which can buy them all I know but all those combined that's a lot of work day 59:07.220 --> 59:10.780 yeah but what do you think happens in your lungs what is your immune system 59:10.780 --> 59:14.420 doing if it's not defending your your barrier that's exactly what your immune 59:14.420 --> 59:20.340 system and why do you think I have a theory on why steroids work okay because 59:20.340 --> 59:26.260 your white blood cells a lot of them are a problem with viral infections because 59:26.260 --> 59:29.900 it breaches the blood lung barrier see our body is not perfect in fighting 59:29.900 --> 59:33.780 fighting the fighting different pathogens sometimes they call in all 59:33.780 --> 59:38.660 sorts of things we also know that with ours a key risk for the distress syndrome 59:38.660 --> 59:42.580 it's a white blood cells that just wreaked havoc they weren't necessary 59:42.580 --> 59:46.780 they're not necessary in our fight against viruses but why do they come in 59:46.780 --> 59:50.060 because a lot of things are called in when there's a lot of infection or even 59:50.060 --> 59:56.700 with the virus but are they useful they're hurtful that's why steroids work 59:56.700 --> 01:00:01.740 but you know steroids paralyzed white blood cells okay so you have all these 01:00:01.740 --> 01:00:04.900 white blood cells that's your killer cells all these cells that are running 01:00:04.900 --> 01:00:09.780 wrong interviewing that's not all that they do right you know that there's a 01:00:09.820 --> 01:00:15.220 whole wing of the white blood cell army that is involved in tolerance and is 01:00:15.220 --> 01:00:20.020 actually trained in the gut so when RNAs are replicating in your lungs and 01:00:20.020 --> 01:00:24.260 they use the mucus to get down into your gut you make T cells which are the 01:00:24.260 --> 01:00:30.700 opposite of the T cells in your lungs I get saying this that you could paralyze 01:00:30.700 --> 01:00:39.100 the white blood cells and you would still overcome COVID but that's just the 01:00:39.100 --> 01:00:42.980 multi that's the multi-faceted nature of the immune system that's not saying 01:00:42.980 --> 01:00:47.540 the T cells don't do anything otherwise otherwise I am saying a big part of the 01:00:47.540 --> 01:00:54.900 fight Jay a big part of the fight how once the virus enters that's the big part 01:00:54.900 --> 01:00:58.060 of the fight that's where most of the fighting occurs where the viruses are 01:00:58.060 --> 01:01:03.020 growing and these lumbering big cells they can produce they can help by 01:01:03.020 --> 01:01:09.380 producing signals like interferon but their only thing they can do beyond 01:01:09.380 --> 01:01:15.780 that is decide to kill or not kill aside from producing interferon what do they 01:01:15.780 --> 01:01:19.660 do they decide I just don't need to die this one doesn't even like but they can 01:01:19.660 --> 01:01:24.020 only make that decision if they interview three billion cells every two days 01:01:24.020 --> 01:01:29.100 I'm like see so the other problem here is that your your assumption is is that 01:01:29.100 --> 01:01:32.860 every time a cell is infected it needs to be killed and that's not true no no 01:01:32.860 --> 01:01:37.740 I'm saying the exact opposite that's what they say but I'm saying it doesn't there 01:01:37.740 --> 01:01:43.580 the club cells in the lungs almost never die from natural education there I'm 01:01:43.580 --> 01:01:51.220 never saying that I'm not saying that I am saying that if an infected cell is too 01:01:51.220 --> 01:01:58.220 sick the white blood cell what can it do to the lung cells it can decide to kill 01:01:58.220 --> 01:02:02.780 it or not kill it the other thing the white blood cells can do is produce 01:02:02.780 --> 01:02:08.900 mediators chemokines what else can they do that's the limit of what they can do 01:02:08.900 --> 01:02:14.780 so I am saying that most infected cells do not have to die because of our nays 01:02:14.780 --> 01:02:22.180 enzymes destroy the RNA so the current thinking is that okay see this is a 01:02:22.180 --> 01:02:27.940 concept of training you believe that if you've had an infection you're better 01:02:27.940 --> 01:02:34.100 able to handle it the next time and so I again take the extreme examples Tom 01:02:34.100 --> 01:02:39.740 Hanks at 70 had no training for 70 years to COVID-19 but that's wrong you can't 01:02:39.740 --> 01:02:45.260 say that that that is why not that assumes that there was a novel virus those 01:02:45.260 --> 01:02:52.500 entire epitope set was you knew that so it's wrong it's wrong hey just listen 01:02:52.500 --> 01:02:57.820 Tom Hanks at 70 you're saying that maybe some other antibodies and some 01:02:57.820 --> 01:03:03.780 other T cells that were trained no no I'm saying that previous previous immunity 01:03:03.780 --> 01:03:09.460 to other RNA viruses whether it's RNases whether it's IgA but how first 01:03:09.460 --> 01:03:15.020 recognition how what do you mean how has he been on earth or not if you're on 01:03:15.020 --> 01:03:19.260 earth you're exposed to RNA all the time no no that's fine but how did those T cells 01:03:19.260 --> 01:03:23.820 that have been exposed how are they gonna help now but why does it have to be T 01:03:23.820 --> 01:03:29.060 cells whatever whatever other cells you want to say because the only molecule 01:03:29.060 --> 01:03:34.620 that has memories antibodies but T cells have memory natural killer cells have 01:03:34.620 --> 01:03:38.900 memory okay you're taller cells white blood cells macrophages T cells 01:03:38.900 --> 01:03:45.740 ventricular cells all of those how did they help Tom Hanks well how would I know 01:03:45.740 --> 01:03:51.380 that there it's a concert it's a concert of the immune system that you are 01:03:51.380 --> 01:03:58.660 discarding by saying it's one thing day interferon helps tremendously and 01:03:58.660 --> 01:04:03.940 these cells produce interferon and that's how they help look at look at a six 01:04:03.940 --> 01:04:11.300 month old baby never faced the enemy didn't have a mom who had COVID didn't 01:04:11.300 --> 01:04:17.300 have a mom who had a coronavirus the past two years okay that baby gets 01:04:17.300 --> 01:04:21.020 COVID and wipes out 10 billion viruses from his body in a week having never 01:04:21.020 --> 01:04:26.180 faced the enemy so see this training concept is we're we're stuck on right 01:04:26.180 --> 01:04:32.140 now and what I'm saying is why are we so certain that training is necessary if 01:04:32.140 --> 01:04:40.540 you see a one-year-old baby ride a bike and juggling is your next thought I 01:04:40.540 --> 01:04:47.020 need to train this baby to ride a bike that shouldn't be your next thought but 01:04:47.020 --> 01:04:52.180 the baby did something incredibly more amazing than that it wiped out 10 01:04:52.180 --> 01:04:56.620 billion viruses from his body and having never had anything similar that it had 01:04:56.620 --> 01:05:06.300 ever faced it knew what to do so why would you assume that training is 01:05:06.300 --> 01:05:13.140 necessary it's not I'm fine I'm fine with that argument okay I'm fine with the 01:05:13.140 --> 01:05:16.420 argument if there's no training but I'm not fine with the argument that now all 01:05:16.420 --> 01:05:22.540 of the no no I'm not saying nothing useful I am saying I agree with you I'm 01:05:22.540 --> 01:05:28.580 not saying it's all useless but I am saying training is not necessary but 01:05:28.580 --> 01:05:34.220 training is not necessary because the immune system is not seeing an RNA 01:05:34.220 --> 01:05:39.940 virus for the first time ever no and this six month all it is 01:05:39.940 --> 01:05:49.980 and you've been sitting in the six-month-old yeah I'm not I'm not really I'm not 01:05:49.980 --> 01:05:55.940 really I'm not really I wasn't really ready to argue this but the immune system 01:05:55.940 --> 01:06:00.220 of a six-month-old is much much much different than the immune system of a 01:06:00.220 --> 01:06:04.500 14-year-old kid but but it handled the coronavirus yeah but it handles it 01:06:04.500 --> 01:06:08.900 differently and you must know that I would disagree that evolution if it 01:06:08.900 --> 01:06:13.100 handles it that efficiently you're saying evolution I mean are you are you 01:06:13.100 --> 01:06:16.420 honestly telling me that you think kids don't have symptoms almost their whole 01:06:16.420 --> 01:06:22.540 life for two years because my children were sniffly on and on just but that's 01:06:22.540 --> 01:06:26.420 not what I said but then they're having replication they're not clearing the 01:06:26.420 --> 01:06:36.180 virus in a day well maybe they don't clear it in a month lots of kids you're 01:06:36.180 --> 01:06:41.740 taking big statements here that don't need to be made I know I'm not they do 01:06:41.740 --> 01:06:47.100 clear the virus having never measured how do we measure that with PCR I mean 01:06:47.100 --> 01:06:52.060 we're talking about viruses as if all the viral stories they tell us are real and 01:06:52.060 --> 01:06:56.580 they're not but you say you can't what we're stuck on here today is we're stuck 01:06:56.580 --> 01:07:00.340 on training you still feel that they have to have some kind of training do better 01:07:00.340 --> 01:07:06.420 I don't think so I'm trying to tell you that what little what little 01:07:06.420 --> 01:07:12.900 biological studies that I can believe from the literature that are done in 01:07:12.900 --> 01:07:20.380 animals where they remove T cells the animals die when they remove B cells the 01:07:20.380 --> 01:07:26.220 animals don't die and that's a pretty big observation because T cells produce 01:07:26.220 --> 01:07:31.780 interferon okay then T cells produce interferon fine that's great so what 01:07:31.780 --> 01:07:37.500 a cytotoxic T cells do nothing just for cancer only bacteria extracellular 01:07:37.500 --> 01:07:42.500 pathogens and extracellular but extracellular pathogens are almost never 01:07:42.500 --> 01:07:46.860 there though why would we have a toxic T cell no no no what do you mean we we we 01:07:46.860 --> 01:07:52.620 we lived in mock that's how we evolved bacteria infections were quite 01:07:52.620 --> 01:07:58.660 rapid cytotoxic T cells are primarily involved in clearing and maintain maintain 01:07:58.660 --> 01:08:07.420 no no we bacteria was a huge issue for us we have bacteria inside us at all 01:08:07.420 --> 01:08:14.220 times E. coli and we build wonderful immune tolerance to their proteins Joe 01:08:14.220 --> 01:08:19.860 and that's and we destroy them when they're in our bloods that's learning hey no 01:08:19.860 --> 01:08:24.140 that's why we go septic when we get certain enzymes or certain bacteria in 01:08:24.140 --> 01:08:28.300 there because our immune system doesn't fight it we do not tolerate E. coli in 01:08:28.300 --> 01:08:33.540 our bloodstream J we destroy it I'm sorry but I think you're wrong about the 01:08:33.540 --> 01:08:38.060 fact that the E. coli that's in your gut is tolerated by the immune system in 01:08:38.060 --> 01:08:42.700 your gut and there is a potential for that to go wrong J gut and bloodstream 01:08:42.700 --> 01:08:46.340 are very different we do not tolerate bacteria in our bloodstream not in the 01:08:46.340 --> 01:08:51.580 bloodstream no not very well but the point is is that if your gut bacteria 01:08:51.580 --> 01:08:56.540 gets into your bloodstream your body doesn't clear it as rapidly as it would 01:08:56.540 --> 01:09:01.500 bacteria that gets through your skin because you have tolerance to it no no 01:09:01.500 --> 01:09:08.180 we don't yes you do that's why we have regulatory T cells we make tolerance it's 01:09:08.180 --> 01:09:13.580 also learning you have to know that they I think you're completely wrong about 01:09:13.580 --> 01:09:21.460 this because you know every lung cell has TLR4 receptors also TLR4 is 01:09:21.460 --> 01:09:27.820 specifically for LPS LPS is the major part of the gram negative bacteria cell 01:09:27.820 --> 01:09:34.700 wall and when that TLR4 receptors activated a whole cascade of the 01:09:34.700 --> 01:09:40.780 events occurs to destroy that E. coli I I'm not saying that the that the 01:09:40.780 --> 01:09:45.100 bacteria is tolerated to the point where they can live there I'm trying to 01:09:45.100 --> 01:09:49.860 argue what I'm saying is there's a lot of things in our system that we use to 01:09:49.860 --> 01:09:53.620 fight extracellular pathogens like bacteria which were a huge issue for us 01:09:53.620 --> 01:09:58.300 we had we face E. coli if E. coli gets into a bloodstream and spreads were dead 01:09:58.300 --> 01:10:03.700 that's true we have it we have a very amazing efficient system and we we take 01:10:03.700 --> 01:10:07.340 care of it as quickly as we can because E. coli is such a threat because we 01:10:07.340 --> 01:10:11.820 actually need the bacteria in our gut but we don't need it in our bloodstream 01:10:11.820 --> 01:10:17.220 and we do not tolerate it in our body we tolerate on in the intestines which are 01:10:17.220 --> 01:10:21.100 not in technically inside our body what about in the payers patches and what 01:10:21.100 --> 01:10:25.580 about when the bacteria is drawn into the payers patches like every night when you 01:10:25.580 --> 01:10:30.340 go to sleep what does that mean the payers patches or what see that's what I'm 01:10:30.340 --> 01:10:34.060 talking about if you don't know how the gut by immunology works then why are you 01:10:34.060 --> 01:10:37.940 arguing with me so vociferously about the fact that we make immune tolerant 01:10:37.940 --> 01:10:43.260 memory to things in our gut because great inside our gut is very different 01:10:43.260 --> 01:10:48.740 from whence they breach the barrier okay you think the skin right the skin is a 01:10:48.740 --> 01:10:56.980 barrier or gut if you're it's a very very technically a gut is a very 01:10:56.980 --> 01:11:01.660 special barrier where everything that comes into ourselves that is that is 01:11:01.660 --> 01:11:06.940 not soluble in water has to go through what Jay what does it have to go 01:11:06.940 --> 01:11:09.740 through this I'm not going to argue this with it has to go through it has to go 01:11:09.740 --> 01:11:16.780 through the limb it has to go inside the gut inside the gut is not the same thing 01:11:16.780 --> 01:11:21.420 but can you can you can you least listen to this the the explanation that I'm 01:11:21.420 --> 01:11:26.620 trying to give you the T cells in the gut interact with the T cells in the rest 01:11:26.620 --> 01:11:32.940 of the body and so if the T cells in the lungs ramp up in immune response they 01:11:32.940 --> 01:11:39.820 need to be turned off by T cells in the gut that is known because the tolerant 01:11:39.820 --> 01:11:46.140 T cells dysregulate down regulate cells that are up regulating the the 01:11:46.140 --> 01:11:53.060 response at the infection this is how it works I'm sorry there's 20 years of 01:11:53.060 --> 01:11:58.220 literature about how the gut T cells down I'm not going to disagree with 01:11:58.220 --> 01:12:03.260 everything you say here Jay but I'm going to tell you flat out that whatever 01:12:03.260 --> 01:12:06.820 you're using this word tolerance and you're getting it confused because tolerance 01:12:06.820 --> 01:12:09.780 inside the bloodstream and tolerance inside the gut is completely different 01:12:09.780 --> 01:12:14.380 issue completely utterly different it's not though let me explain why because the 01:12:14.380 --> 01:12:19.860 tolerance movement okay the tolerance is at the passage the T cells can stop 01:12:19.860 --> 01:12:27.780 things the the payer's patches can stop things from entering the lymph and so 01:12:27.780 --> 01:12:33.180 you need to build tolerance tonight if an E. coli how's this let's just get to 01:12:33.180 --> 01:12:36.380 the bottom this and I'll stop discuss this further if an E. coli gets into our 01:12:36.380 --> 01:12:39.780 bloodstream I don't think there's any tolerance for that no I agree with you 01:12:39.780 --> 01:12:47.300 that's all I'm saying I agree with you completely that there's tolerance inside 01:12:47.300 --> 01:12:52.420 the mucosa of the back of the intestine the wall of the that's just like our 01:12:52.420 --> 01:12:56.020 skin but on the inside you know how we build food allergies is the same way the 01:12:56.020 --> 01:13:00.700 payer's patches tolerance is dysregulated you know that right you have to 01:13:00.700 --> 01:13:04.660 know that you're a doctor and you know what allergies are so how can you argue 01:13:04.660 --> 01:13:10.340 with me here I don't get it at one point the tolerance is not inside the blood 01:13:10.340 --> 01:13:17.740 stream E. coli inside the tolerance is the T cells Joseph and wherever the T cells 01:13:17.740 --> 01:13:22.620 are they mitigate the tolerance no I am saying is if you have E. coli inside the 01:13:22.620 --> 01:13:25.220 bloodstream there is no tolerance we're gonna try to kill us that's what I'm 01:13:25.220 --> 01:13:29.980 saying what I'm trying to say to you is the reason why we don't kill the T cells 01:13:29.980 --> 01:13:33.260 in the payers patches because there are T cells there to make sure that we don't 01:13:33.260 --> 01:13:38.740 or sorry we don't kill the bacteria I'm sorry I said it wrong we don't kill the 01:13:38.740 --> 01:13:44.660 bacteria in the payers patches because the T cells tolerate them there it's 01:13:44.660 --> 01:13:50.220 known Joe so you're not really arguing with me but you're ignoring the 01:13:50.220 --> 01:13:55.300 fact that there's a lot I never say anything different immunity and learning 01:13:55.300 --> 01:14:01.420 occurs on multiple fronts in the body that's reason why you only get measles 01:14:01.420 --> 01:14:07.460 once I don't agree with that either okay I guess you got to do a better 01:14:07.460 --> 01:14:12.020 immunology lecture then because what you've been lecturing to me thus far okay 01:14:12.020 --> 01:14:16.620 is a lot of hand waving yeah you can't just say T cells don't do anything let's 01:14:16.620 --> 01:14:22.180 let's slow slow down you're getting a really upset with me but you think that 01:14:22.180 --> 01:14:27.460 it measles there's training and that they don't get it again I I say there are 01:14:27.460 --> 01:14:32.740 other potential hypotheses to explain that I'm fine with that too yeah yeah 01:14:32.740 --> 01:14:37.780 so that that's what I'm saying I'm saying for most viruses we're not trained 01:14:37.780 --> 01:14:42.780 like that we take a very general approach 01:14:44.700 --> 01:14:49.540 you seem very convinced that there are lots of viruses and that viruses make 01:14:49.540 --> 01:14:55.820 billions of copies of themselves and you're not really attacking that part of 01:14:55.820 --> 01:14:59.420 the narrative either which is kind of frustrating because I think you're 01:14:59.420 --> 01:15:03.540 aware that the vast majority of the people that died of COVID didn't really 01:15:03.540 --> 01:15:07.340 die of COVID I think you're aware that the PCR doesn't really identify anything 01:15:07.340 --> 01:15:12.540 and so it's weird that we spent the whole hour now talking about COVID 01:15:12.540 --> 01:15:16.740 infection when I start the stream with the fact that there's no evidence of 01:15:16.740 --> 01:15:23.380 spread not in New York in New York there's no evidence of spread there were 01:15:23.380 --> 01:15:28.260 10,000 people killed in three weeks and then it stopped and there were no excess 01:15:28.300 --> 01:15:33.180 deaths for the next two years until they rolled out the shots so why wasn't 01:15:33.180 --> 01:15:39.900 they're spreading RNA I'm not sure what you're saying I'm saying the 10,000 01:15:39.900 --> 01:15:46.940 people died in March of 2020 in New York City and then they stopped dying very 01:15:46.940 --> 01:15:51.740 possible yes and it's not because of RNase it's because they started 01:15:51.740 --> 01:15:55.460 treating people with antibiotics and they stopped ventilating people and they 01:15:55.460 --> 01:16:01.220 started using remdesivir to kill them instead and so everybody that's died of 01:16:01.220 --> 01:16:07.060 COVID has actually been treated poorly like you said and actually the evidence 01:16:07.060 --> 01:16:13.260 that we have for an actual novel RNA virus is zero and you said it yourself 01:16:13.260 --> 01:16:18.540 what evidence is there if 70 year old man like Tom Hanks can fight it off must 01:16:18.540 --> 01:16:24.300 not have been very novel so your argument is so your argument is is that it was 01:16:24.300 --> 01:16:29.540 novel but but we don't but we didn't care because we fight these off the same 01:16:29.540 --> 01:16:34.260 way all the time anyway well I've known about coronavirus forever the common 01:16:34.260 --> 01:16:37.900 cold a lot of common colds are caused by coronavirus I didn't never say it was 01:16:37.900 --> 01:16:42.380 novel I mean but it has to be right because you said that nobody had Tom 01:16:42.380 --> 01:16:48.460 Hanks hadn't seen it before he had no memory his whole 70 years never had it 01:16:48.460 --> 01:16:52.620 and you said that memory is not made so then how do you fight it so what somebody 01:16:52.620 --> 01:16:58.100 gets COVID and they have this somebody gets a vaccine well you know what I'm 01:16:58.100 --> 01:17:01.980 not gonna do this with you because for some reason you're not really happy 01:17:01.980 --> 01:17:08.660 the way I'm talking about this I don't know what it is I think it's because 01:17:08.660 --> 01:17:14.060 you're really it feels very much like you're you're pushing the idea that there 01:17:14.060 --> 01:17:20.540 was a novel virus that it's still there that it was different and so well but 01:17:21.260 --> 01:17:25.500 it's slightly different why why is that so unusual I mean I know coronaviruses 01:17:25.500 --> 01:17:31.300 are the common cold I think one third was was caused by coronaviruses so why 01:17:31.300 --> 01:17:35.260 would I say that every coronavirus is novel I wouldn't say that but then why 01:17:35.260 --> 01:17:39.820 would we need to learn something new to fight this one right I didn't say that 01:17:39.820 --> 01:17:43.420 either no no I know that you said the up you said that we didn't need to learn 01:17:43.420 --> 01:17:57.660 anything to fight this right I guess I asked you earlier to take it to the 01:17:57.660 --> 01:18:03.780 extreme and then we kind of didn't take it to the extreme so if if we take it to 01:18:03.780 --> 01:18:10.380 the extreme if the CDC told doctors like you that there's a new virus and you 01:18:10.380 --> 01:18:16.540 can't use antibiotics to treat it even if you get pneumonia it's viral and so 01:18:16.540 --> 01:18:20.460 it won't work for it and you should give people remdesivir and ventilate them 01:18:20.460 --> 01:18:24.980 instead I don't agree with that but do you think that that would explain the 01:18:24.980 --> 01:18:30.100 million people that died in America it could and so in that case then there's 01:18:30.100 --> 01:18:36.380 no novel spread and so we're talking almost better not I mean what is new to 01:18:36.380 --> 01:18:38.860 some people isn't need to other people I don't even know what the argument is 01:18:38.860 --> 01:18:46.420 of all year today well the argument about it is is that you and I have been 01:18:46.420 --> 01:18:52.580 trying to open the possibility space so that people can understand that a novel 01:18:52.580 --> 01:18:59.620 RNA molecule released in Wuhan is not responsible for what we experienced and 01:18:59.620 --> 01:19:04.380 at least that's what I'm trying to do because I feel as though they've lied to 01:19:04.380 --> 01:19:08.660 us about this idea that if I had a special RNA molecule and I spilled it on 01:19:08.660 --> 01:19:13.820 the floor in my in my garage eventually it would cover the planet and part of 01:19:13.820 --> 01:19:18.780 that story is this idea that all of us were vulnerable in 2020 because we've 01:19:18.780 --> 01:19:22.860 never agreed with you Jay that I agree with you if there was some kind of higher 01:19:22.860 --> 01:19:27.460 ups who had this idea of spreading a pretend novel virus so they could make 01:19:27.460 --> 01:19:32.500 money off their vaccines their mRNA technology it could have happened yes 01:19:32.500 --> 01:19:38.860 I'm not disagreeing with that and so they lie about how they how we are 01:19:38.860 --> 01:19:43.660 inoculated they lie about how vaccines work they lie about how our immune system 01:19:43.660 --> 01:19:50.340 works so I'm on board with that okay so the the issue that I guess we're 01:19:50.340 --> 01:20:00.220 clashing about is where the the augmentation or instruction education of 01:20:00.220 --> 01:20:06.580 the immune system happens or is needs to happen with regards to measles small 01:20:06.580 --> 01:20:12.460 pox any viral any viral engine yeah I don't want to get confrontational here 01:20:12.460 --> 01:20:16.420 this is like you have your thoughts and that's fine I have my thoughts and we're 01:20:16.420 --> 01:20:21.380 just trying to share so this is what I think about measles I've heard from 01:20:21.380 --> 01:20:27.260 plenty of people that their childhood measles and had it again now if somebody 01:20:27.260 --> 01:20:32.740 gets a measles blister and they get infected with measles and that little 01:20:32.740 --> 01:20:39.260 skin cell that died what I'm saying is how did that skin cell that died how did 01:20:39.260 --> 01:20:45.740 it train the other skin cells how to train the other skin cells to not die 01:20:45.740 --> 01:20:50.500 not to better fight it off next time if it died what I'm saying is in science you 01:20:50.500 --> 01:20:55.060 if you break it down to the actual you have to have a connection for 01:20:55.060 --> 01:21:01.980 everything from cause to effect if you say this is what I think I think measles 01:21:01.980 --> 01:21:10.460 is a attacks skin cells that are fast growing and adults don't grow nearly as 01:21:10.460 --> 01:21:14.460 fast so then they're not going to blister like that and you know they're not 01:21:14.460 --> 01:21:20.940 gonna have past papules and have red lesions and then it won't happen but 01:21:20.940 --> 01:21:25.260 younger kids their skin cells are growing really fast and clearly not all 01:21:25.260 --> 01:21:28.980 their skin cells got in you know even if they got infected they didn't all just 01:21:28.980 --> 01:21:33.500 die there were some really fast growing skin skin cells that couldn't handle it 01:21:33.500 --> 01:21:39.660 and then they died but if they did die I'm saying how did they train the other 01:21:39.660 --> 01:21:43.620 cells to fight it off next time and see this is what science says you have to 01:21:43.620 --> 01:21:48.100 break it down step by step you can't just skip steps it's not fair to so to 01:21:48.100 --> 01:21:51.620 believe that you got got needs of measles and you won't get it again I'm 01:21:51.620 --> 01:21:54.580 saying well I don't know for sure if that's true or not because I've heard of 01:21:54.580 --> 01:22:01.140 plenty of cases where they got measles twice so I I do have a general problem 01:22:01.140 --> 01:22:05.460 with training and you do like tea cells that are trained and I you've studied 01:22:05.460 --> 01:22:10.700 that area a lot more than I have so it I'm not going to disagree with you on all 01:22:10.700 --> 01:22:16.300 that I'm just saying that in the case of measles if I have a viable theory on why 01:22:16.300 --> 01:22:21.060 it presents early and then present so much the next time maybe it's because 01:22:21.060 --> 01:22:26.220 skin cells are growing slower as you would grow older so you know when they 01:22:26.220 --> 01:22:29.620 have an observation and they are pretty sure that there was training involved 01:22:29.620 --> 01:22:34.380 I'm not I'm saying that it's not always training now in your gut case it could 01:22:34.380 --> 01:22:38.140 be very very different I have even looked at that every I don't remember what a 01:22:38.140 --> 01:22:42.860 pirate's patch was Jay but I am saying for the things that I thought about I've 01:22:42.940 --> 01:22:48.460 seen I've come up with other hypotheses for the the explanation that differs 01:22:48.460 --> 01:22:55.220 from them saying that it was training involved so I think we agree with all 01:22:55.220 --> 01:23:00.540 things we definitely do and I'm not I'm just I'm really fired up right now 01:23:00.540 --> 01:23:06.620 about about where we are okay it's okay Jay and you know I can tell that you are 01:23:06.620 --> 01:23:13.100 and I'm okay with that and I think that you were trying to bring across the 01:23:13.100 --> 01:23:16.860 fact that you don't like the way the government lied to us about this and I 01:23:16.860 --> 01:23:19.940 believe that they could lie about all sorts of things like you and then they 01:23:19.940 --> 01:23:23.180 had a different motivation and you're saying you discover all sorts of things 01:23:23.180 --> 01:23:29.660 well I have and it is it is three years of teaching this stuff so I've been 01:23:29.660 --> 01:23:34.460 teaching a couple things for about two years now that you're the years you still 01:23:34.460 --> 01:23:40.820 haven't really heard or come upon yet and one of them kind of goes back to this 01:23:40.820 --> 01:23:48.420 fundamental principle of how RNA works and you've already laid out in spades the 01:23:48.420 --> 01:23:52.300 idea that RNA can't just willy-nilly go wherever it wants to and do whatever it 01:23:52.300 --> 01:23:57.540 wants to we have lots of control mechanisms for that I wonder if you're 01:23:57.540 --> 01:24:02.740 aware of the idea that when DNA is copied there are several enzymes that proof 01:24:02.740 --> 01:24:06.460 read it and because it's a double-stranded molecule you have two chances 01:24:06.460 --> 01:24:11.820 to proof read it and when you replicate RNA this isn't the case yeah it's not 01:24:11.820 --> 01:24:17.980 it's not as the fidelity is not nearly yeah so in reality why viruses never 01:24:17.980 --> 01:24:21.660 grew bigger than viruses right yeah the reason why you can't really culture 01:24:21.660 --> 01:24:26.940 viruses for very long and certainly not in in perpetuity is because of this so 01:24:26.940 --> 01:24:31.900 you know are you aware that the way that they overcame this in the 80s was to 01:24:31.900 --> 01:24:37.660 make a DNA clone of the RNA sequence that they found in in the wild I didn't 01:24:37.660 --> 01:24:40.940 know that but that makes sense so what they would do is they would take this 01:24:40.940 --> 01:24:46.220 sequence that they found in a bat asshole and they would remake it into a cDNA 01:24:46.220 --> 01:24:50.860 and grow it in large quantities in a bacteria and then add a commercial 01:24:50.860 --> 01:24:58.020 RNase and then now they have a bottle of pure RNA virus RNA that's all one 01:24:58.060 --> 01:25:03.420 molecule and then they use that on their cell cultures they use that to send to 01:25:03.420 --> 01:25:08.740 their friends they use that to upload to the database and they regenerate that 01:25:08.740 --> 01:25:14.740 whenever they want to start with SARS or BAN-E sure so what I'm 01:25:14.740 --> 01:25:18.740 suggesting to you is that there is no RNA molecule on the planet that can be 01:25:18.740 --> 01:25:22.820 spilled on one place in the planet and then perpetually take itself around the 01:25:22.820 --> 01:25:28.700 planet for three years not even for six months the only thing that can do that 01:25:28.700 --> 01:25:33.140 is an infectious clone where you have sufficient purity and sufficient 01:25:33.140 --> 01:25:38.980 quantity of a replicating RNA so that even though it makes mistakes that same 01:25:38.980 --> 01:25:44.660 sequence still shows up wherever you do it and it's I mean there are other 01:25:44.660 --> 01:25:50.140 arguments right I could make it one just off the top of my head that of all the 01:25:50.180 --> 01:25:54.860 millions billions trillions of copies the ones that are copied correctly there's 01:25:54.860 --> 01:25:58.300 a lot of them that are copied wrong the ones that are copied correctly and still 01:25:58.300 --> 01:26:03.940 have everything that they need to replicate and attach to a cell those are 01:26:03.940 --> 01:26:09.820 the ones that keep going so you know you can you can have a kid copy letters and 01:26:09.820 --> 01:26:14.500 just pick out the good ones and if you just pick out the good ones it'll still 01:26:14.500 --> 01:26:18.180 be transferred very well but mathematically that's not how it works Joe 01:26:18.180 --> 01:26:23.420 when you when you're copying RNA in a cell you can do the math in your head 01:26:23.420 --> 01:26:26.460 because you've shown us many times in this talk you can do the math in your 01:26:26.460 --> 01:26:33.060 head there's one molecule and you copy it and when you copy it you make three 01:26:33.060 --> 01:26:38.260 errors because it makes a minimum of one error every 10,000 bases now you have 01:26:38.260 --> 01:26:44.140 two copies in the cell one is the original and one's got three errors now 01:26:44.140 --> 01:26:48.420 the RNA dependent polymerase has to copy one of those two if it copies the 01:26:48.420 --> 01:26:54.380 original now you're gonna have two with three errors and one original and so as 01:26:54.380 --> 01:26:59.100 this goes on the RNA polymerase is never going to choose the original strand 01:26:59.100 --> 01:27:07.780 again and in reality this goes out the window very quickly in any any biological 01:27:07.780 --> 01:27:13.700 system they've ever said hey Jay would you just said there the fact is there are 01:27:13.700 --> 01:27:18.260 any viruses 30,000 nucleotides long based on what you just said there should be 01:27:18.260 --> 01:27:22.360 no RNA virus even around because they've all mutated themselves death there 01:27:22.360 --> 01:27:28.340 aren't the fact is there aren't oh you don't believe in RNA viruses well there 01:27:28.340 --> 01:27:31.900 are RNA viruses but they aren't trackable like they say they're trackable do you 01:27:31.900 --> 01:27:36.420 know how many sequences of human coronaviruses there were available on 01:27:36.420 --> 01:27:43.380 the internet in 2019 49 okay so you're just saying there's a lot of 01:27:43.380 --> 01:27:47.580 variations a lot of mutations of them right I'm saying that yes none of them 01:27:47.580 --> 01:27:54.060 are trackable because they all use one enzyme and that's it yes yeah yeah but 01:27:54.060 --> 01:27:59.400 the fact is they are here right now but they are a background signal that has 01:27:59.400 --> 01:28:04.140 always been there always causing disease always inflaming our lungs and 01:28:04.140 --> 01:28:11.900 always always causing secondary pneumonia and this this year we just 01:28:11.900 --> 01:28:15.820 decided this year we just decided we're gonna tell all the doctors that this 01:28:15.820 --> 01:28:21.420 normal phenomenon is now characterizable by a special PCR test is 01:28:21.420 --> 01:28:28.140 sequenced by a 99 primer set sequencing reaction and is untreatable by antibiotics 01:28:28.140 --> 01:28:35.640 and is it for my son of course I think they're being idiotic I'm on board with 01:28:35.640 --> 01:28:39.740 you today but then we got we get all the way to the stage here though when when 01:28:39.740 --> 01:28:45.260 now they're lied they lied about a pandemic there was no pandemic I kind of 01:28:45.260 --> 01:28:52.340 have to agree with you that well okay there was just a natural phenomenon that 01:28:52.340 --> 01:28:57.980 they conflated and with with careful destruction of all the hospital 01:28:57.980 --> 01:29:01.060 protocols wherever they could influence it with finances and I'm 01:29:01.060 --> 01:29:06.140 completely believe completely believe that hospitals would do all that yes 01:29:06.140 --> 01:29:13.860 they did yeah yes they did and so I really need people to understand that the 01:29:13.860 --> 01:29:18.820 immunology was a lie the virology is exaggerated the fidelity of the 01:29:18.820 --> 01:29:24.780 virology is exaggerated and the mechanistic effectiveness of their 01:29:24.780 --> 01:29:29.700 cure is completely bullshit I agree with you these three things need to get out 01:29:29.700 --> 01:29:34.220 there you have the mechanistic bullshit down to a science and I think you're a 01:29:34.220 --> 01:29:39.660 really good presenter of it I think John Bodewin has all the deaths and the 01:29:39.660 --> 01:29:45.620 causes nailed I think Denny Rancor can explain to the world why there was no 01:29:45.660 --> 01:29:50.300 excess mortality where there should have been when there was a novel cause of 01:29:50.300 --> 01:29:55.700 death suddenly which there wasn't the novel cause of death was I see cause or 01:29:55.700 --> 01:29:59.660 disagreement because there are certain things I was saying that you didn't like 01:29:59.660 --> 01:30:04.340 because you thought that it matched what the government was saying yes exactly 01:30:04.340 --> 01:30:08.240 and that's okay that that's why we have this conversation though man I don't 01:30:08.240 --> 01:30:13.500 mean to do that because you're talking all day long to people I'm not it's my 01:30:14.500 --> 01:30:19.140 my chat was defending you so as I was attacking you my chat was saying no no 01:30:19.140 --> 01:30:22.020 it's not what he means so don't worry about it wasn't it wasn't what I meant 01:30:22.020 --> 01:30:26.740 yeah but I see why I could have irritated you because it sounded like I was 01:30:26.740 --> 01:30:31.100 agreeing with it no I'm not I mean I agree there's what okay but can I get to 01:30:31.100 --> 01:30:37.580 the yes string theory yes so have you read up on it all on what on the 01:30:37.580 --> 01:30:42.300 string theory what string theory you mean physics no no my string theory oh 01:30:42.300 --> 01:30:45.180 no I have not no sorry I didn't know what you were saying good this is great 01:30:45.180 --> 01:30:50.660 but this is a new stuff oh all right on are you getting a whiteboard out yeah 01:30:50.660 --> 01:30:57.780 I love doing this with you because you understand I mean you sometimes know 01:30:57.780 --> 01:31:01.020 a lot more than I do about certain areas so it's I you know I focus on 01:31:01.020 --> 01:31:05.020 fundamentals and mechanisms and the politics part I'm not nearly as heavily 01:31:05.020 --> 01:31:08.940 involved as you are right so I'm gonna get some of the language wrong but okay 01:31:08.940 --> 01:31:15.820 so the string theory so when you get a covid infection doesn't show very well 01:31:15.820 --> 01:31:23.420 okay so covid infection you have spike on the virus you're going to form 01:31:23.420 --> 01:31:31.580 antibodies to the top right but when you are given a this isn't this is just a 01:31:31.580 --> 01:31:36.700 representation when you are given free spike you can form antibodies to the top 01:31:36.700 --> 01:31:44.700 to the bottom to the side because the spike antigen has multiple antigenic 01:31:44.700 --> 01:31:51.660 sites so now it's even worse I can't wait to add to this keep going now you 01:31:51.660 --> 01:31:58.620 have a person who have who has an antibody to the bottom and he has an 01:31:58.620 --> 01:32:06.140 antibody to the top and you now you give them a booster three months later you 01:32:06.140 --> 01:32:14.020 give them a booster this is what happens there's only three components you have 01:32:14.020 --> 01:32:22.220 an antibody to the top to the bottom I mean let me let me do it like that 01:32:22.220 --> 01:32:30.700 antibody to the anybody magnet I can't believe it you have the spike now the 01:32:30.700 --> 01:32:41.180 bottom is visible the antibody sticks to that oh here he goes here he goes I see 01:32:41.180 --> 01:32:50.700 clotting oh my god you saw it now the other arm right now the top is 01:32:50.700 --> 01:32:57.740 visible right now is it going to stop no this is also what 01:32:57.740 --> 01:33:02.380 secret bhakti said this is a disaster indeed it's just a giant matrix of 01:33:02.380 --> 01:33:10.620 shit so this is what I call the strain theory yes because in a natural 01:33:10.620 --> 01:33:17.900 infection you're not going to form antibodies to the bottom and so even if 01:33:17.900 --> 01:33:23.420 it does form the body you can't have one antibody bind to two virus particles 01:33:23.420 --> 01:33:29.340 because the virus is too big but when the antigen is smaller you can have the 01:33:29.340 --> 01:33:35.340 antigen act as glue to the slightly different antibodies because you can 01:33:35.340 --> 01:33:39.820 have different populations of antibodies that form now the amazing thing about 01:33:39.820 --> 01:33:46.460 this day you've never you haven't read it before right no so you see what happens 01:33:46.460 --> 01:33:55.260 with this half the vaccines on earth their main effect is to form long strands 01:33:55.260 --> 01:34:00.460 of antibodies and then you'll get a mesh work and then once you have this mesh 01:34:00.460 --> 01:34:06.700 work platelets that caught in it every fc region you know activates fc receptors on 01:34:06.700 --> 01:34:15.420 a platelet oh you really like this and then half the vaccines on earth have 01:34:15.420 --> 01:34:22.780 this exact same issue so children before the their age of four have 20 booster vaccines 01:34:23.980 --> 01:34:31.420 ten of those can replicate the scenario if you form this mesh work of antibodies 01:34:31.420 --> 01:34:38.380 and antigen in a child in a blood vessel that goes through amygdala part of the brain that 01:34:38.380 --> 01:34:45.020 controls rage and memory and emotional responses you're going to have a personality 01:34:45.020 --> 01:34:53.340 change and that's your autism and all of a sudden death LeBron James's son had a heart attack 01:34:53.340 --> 01:35:01.020 all these young people all these middle-aged people falling over dead clots my brother 01:35:01.020 --> 01:35:07.180 his second Pfizer dose two weeks one or two three weeks later he has the antibodies in his blood 01:35:07.980 --> 01:35:15.180 you give the antigen the antigen is going to act as glue to the different antibodies 01:35:17.580 --> 01:35:19.660 now i call this the main effect because 01:35:21.580 --> 01:35:29.660 this antibody that you formed from the first vaccine the chances of it sticking to a virus is 01:35:30.620 --> 01:35:35.820 you may never face the virus you may never be exposed it's certainly the virus may never get 01:35:35.900 --> 01:35:42.220 in your blood that's for sure it could be one in a billion right the chances could of this antibody 01:35:42.220 --> 01:35:47.180 sticking to a virus could be one in billion but i'll be really fair and give them a one in ten 01:35:47.180 --> 01:35:54.220 thousand chance but the antibody that you produced from the first vaccine sticking to the spike that 01:35:54.220 --> 01:36:02.060 was produced from the second vaccine it's almost guaranteed isn't it but it's the main effect 01:36:02.060 --> 01:36:07.900 it's not a side effect you know in science when in medicine when we talk about side effects we are 01:36:07.900 --> 01:36:13.820 like the particular biochemistry of this particular individual slightly different 01:36:13.820 --> 01:36:17.980 is they make series that they're one bizarrely slightly different for whatever reason 01:36:18.700 --> 01:36:23.420 it's unusual but this person happened to have a side effect from this medication that we 01:36:23.420 --> 01:36:30.060 normally never expect it to happen but in this case i show that this booster vaccine 01:36:30.940 --> 01:36:37.420 is guaranteed to cause chains of alternating antibodies and the science that i use here 01:36:39.260 --> 01:36:46.220 there's no preservative there's no contamination there's nothing in it that starts this whole process 01:36:47.580 --> 01:36:56.060 then they're i start from this their antigen i don't need anything else and i only use their 01:36:56.060 --> 01:37:00.220 best science that an antigen will create antibodies 01:37:01.660 --> 01:37:08.380 that antibodies will stick to their antigen i used nothing else but that yep to show that the 01:37:08.380 --> 01:37:15.660 main effect are long chains of antibodies and it's just like the bottom of a bathtub drain 01:37:17.100 --> 01:37:23.260 hair will clog it strands of antibodies in your body will clog your blood vessels 01:37:23.980 --> 01:37:34.860 and so i put up a journal of immunology chief editor dr. Eugene notes for seven days i had this on his ex-account 01:37:36.300 --> 01:37:39.900 he never responded because there is no rebuttal possible 01:37:41.900 --> 01:37:45.900 can you imagine is there anything that they can say no there isn't and really 01:37:46.700 --> 01:37:55.020 um it's it's it's this this um this problem that you've outlined here is actually compounded by 01:37:55.020 --> 01:38:01.260 this idea of linked recognition which i understand that we were kind of arguing about before but 01:38:01.260 --> 01:38:07.740 in my understanding of the immune system T cells are presented antigens in in the scenario 01:38:07.740 --> 01:38:12.860 where they're presented something and the antigens that they are presented are presented to them by 01:38:12.860 --> 01:38:22.300 antigen presenting cells in a separate yeah in a separate line there are antigens from the 01:38:22.300 --> 01:38:27.980 infection or from the invader which are circulating in the lymph and those antigens can be detected 01:38:27.980 --> 01:38:34.860 by a B cell that has a B cell receptor that fits them if the B cell receptor recognizes 01:38:34.860 --> 01:38:40.140 something in circulation it will take it in and it will process it and it will present 01:38:40.940 --> 01:38:49.500 antigens of that sorry epitopes of that antigen on the outside and it requires an activated T cell 01:38:49.500 --> 01:38:56.300 that that recognizes one of those epitopes to tell that B cell to produce the antibody 01:38:57.260 --> 01:39:01.180 that it recognized the original epitope now what's cool about this 01:39:02.220 --> 01:39:07.820 or not cool what's really awful about this is that when you transfect someone with the spike 01:39:07.900 --> 01:39:18.860 protein the only activated T cells that are active can be activated by antigen presenting 01:39:18.860 --> 01:39:25.180 cells presenting the spike they won't present anything else there are 31 other proteins that 01:39:25.180 --> 01:39:31.420 they could potentially present but they won't present anything else because the only thing 01:39:31.420 --> 01:39:39.180 available is the spike which means that all of these nonspecific antibodies are not nonspecific 01:39:39.180 --> 01:39:47.420 but non neutralizing or non good antibodies will all be driven by linked recognition 01:39:47.420 --> 01:39:55.260 to produce high quantities of their of their load whereas in a real infection the T cell help 01:39:55.260 --> 01:39:59.660 for all of those different antibodies wouldn't have been it would have only been there for 01:39:59.660 --> 01:40:03.580 a couple of those so you're saying with the vaccine that only the antigen you have to have 01:40:03.580 --> 01:40:07.980 more production of antibodies yeah you get way more production because they're it can produce 01:40:07.980 --> 01:40:12.220 all the antibodies that they want to all the antibodies could be linked but exactly that 01:40:13.020 --> 01:40:18.220 absolutely and there's a there's a feedback loop that prevents this overproduction of antibodies 01:40:18.220 --> 01:40:23.980 when a real infection occurs if it won't happen with a transfection it's completely not there at 01:40:24.860 --> 01:40:31.660 so your mechanism is crazy because it's real and it's way beyond with a transfection 01:40:33.340 --> 01:40:38.860 and it affects half the vaccines on earth yeah so the american academy of pediatrics 01:40:38.860 --> 01:40:44.860 their ex-account i posted something eight days ago all this whole diagram everything 01:40:45.500 --> 01:40:50.860 maybe 200 posts and i explained to them if you're really interested in the health of children 01:40:51.660 --> 01:40:58.300 i outlined in a mechanism so tight that it's actually not a side of it it's the main effect 01:40:58.300 --> 01:41:03.980 clots are the main effect how big they get is a different issue but every booster vaccine will 01:41:03.980 --> 01:41:11.100 cause clots and you didn't know this so you don't have responsibility nearly as bad but the moment 01:41:11.100 --> 01:41:17.820 you're informed of this it doesn't matter if it's hypotheses because you know do you think they 01:41:17.900 --> 01:41:21.740 get away with it because they spread these shots out in kids enough whereas with these 01:41:21.740 --> 01:41:26.300 govig shots they put them like six months behind no it was if you look at the pediatric 01:41:26.300 --> 01:41:30.540 vaccination schedule three months apart oh yeah sorry those are that's true yeah that's right 01:41:30.540 --> 01:41:36.300 yes but agreed if it's further apart you're much less likely to have a problem right 01:41:37.420 --> 01:41:43.180 unless you produce so much that you still like if this spike antigen doesn't degrade in a month 01:41:44.140 --> 01:41:48.220 and you've produced all these antibodies and you have the spike antigen like the j-j 01:41:48.220 --> 01:41:53.180 had clots right so why did they have clots they had clots because they had the antigen 01:41:53.180 --> 01:41:59.020 and they had the antibodies for a long time i think i think the j-j produced a lot of spike 01:41:59.020 --> 01:42:06.300 to me the hepatitis B is a great example of this because you know it hepatitis B 01:42:06.300 --> 01:42:11.340 viruses really kill the liver cell it's not conservative sideopathic but it produces it 01:42:11.340 --> 01:42:16.700 makes us up through so much surface antigen we follow hepatitis B by how much surface antigen 01:42:16.700 --> 01:42:23.020 there is and then a hepatitis B surface antigen same story so everyone says the immune system 01:42:23.020 --> 01:42:28.140 causes damage from hepatitis B well they never explain how this is how they're doing it 01:42:30.140 --> 01:42:35.260 and so why do you get kidney damage with hepatitis B because you're getting mesh works of antibodies 01:42:36.220 --> 01:42:39.820 that can't be cleared very well by the red blood cell explain system 01:42:39.900 --> 01:42:44.780 they mean complex can't be cleared because they're too big and they're clotting off areas 01:42:44.780 --> 01:42:49.580 and you know the kidney tube also all this gets concentrated and it just gets stuck 01:42:49.580 --> 01:42:56.540 and you're destroying kidney function so i would imagine that with with covid all the weird bizarre 01:42:56.540 --> 01:43:04.300 side effects you're damaging based on flow you're reducing the flow with all the you know every fc 01:43:04.300 --> 01:43:11.420 region can activate platelet fc receptors when the antibody has bound to the antigen 01:43:12.860 --> 01:43:18.300 so you got this mesh of mesh work of mesh work of antibodies change and you know IgM comes into 01:43:18.300 --> 01:43:25.820 play too right because IgM has five IgG but and they can get clumped together and you can just 01:43:25.820 --> 01:43:32.140 have this snowball and i said to the American Academy of Pediatrics you need to call for an 01:43:32.140 --> 01:43:40.060 immediate halt to half the vaccines on earth because you didn't know about this 01:43:42.780 --> 01:43:49.260 i i think it's brilliant i think it's really brilliant and it's true i i think that there's 01:43:49.260 --> 01:43:54.700 a very high likelihood that it's true that this that jay that we are you're one of the 01:43:54.700 --> 01:44:00.700 four scientists i know can you think of an out for them a rebuttal no i mean i i'm i'm with you 01:44:00.700 --> 01:44:06.140 100 there's this is a real big problem and it comes right back to where you started which is 01:44:06.140 --> 01:44:11.980 this this horrible premise that antibodies are primal to our immune response and they're just not 01:44:14.620 --> 01:44:21.980 it's extraordinary though because where i i hinted about at the beginning of the of the 01:44:23.500 --> 01:44:29.180 of the interview is that you might not be aware but in the beginning of the pandemic there was a 01:44:29.180 --> 01:44:35.500 huge supreme court case which went through which basically changed the intellectual property 01:44:35.500 --> 01:44:41.180 space around antibodies and before the pandemic it was pretty easy to make a patent on a monoclonal 01:44:41.180 --> 01:44:47.900 antibody and after this supreme court decision it's almost impossible the way that you used to do it 01:44:48.540 --> 01:44:57.260 so it's pretty crazy because using an mRNA to produce antibodies avoids that whole antibody 01:44:57.340 --> 01:45:01.900 patent problem you're saying it's a money game yes and even worse there is a company in 01:45:01.900 --> 01:45:09.740 canada that seems to be poised to use mRNA to just make the antibody directly and they'll just make 01:45:09.740 --> 01:45:17.500 the liver cells make antibodies for covid and for rsv and for flu and that's going to be the new way 01:45:17.500 --> 01:45:23.420 that they use mRNA to again augment the immune system but they're going to use antibodies for 01:45:23.420 --> 01:45:31.100 all of it and it's pretty extraordinary because they then can bypass this whole patent issue with 01:45:31.100 --> 01:45:37.500 monoclonal antibodies is that to find it and then code it in an mRNA and express it in people and 01:45:37.500 --> 01:45:43.820 now there's a patent on the mRNA instead of on the colon antibody i see it's really extraordinary 01:45:43.820 --> 01:45:49.740 because peter teal is invested in that company before the pandemic and some really interesting 01:45:49.820 --> 01:45:56.140 all this down wow we tracked a lot of it down um it's really mark kulak actually of usetonic 01:45:56.140 --> 01:46:03.340 live that did a lot of the legwork on this but the biology has been peeling back since 2020 since 01:46:03.340 --> 01:46:09.740 you and mike eden and so many other people have been out in front of this ridiculous illusion that 01:46:09.740 --> 01:46:16.700 antibodies are are a measure of immunity an indicator of immunity and even uh the only thing you need 01:46:16.700 --> 01:46:24.380 for immunity which i think we all agree now is obviously ridiculous but um the tv still says it 01:46:25.340 --> 01:46:31.980 and the uh academy for pediatrics still says it and i think well amazingly you know it's been 01:46:31.980 --> 01:46:37.260 eight days and they haven't taken down any of my posts oh okay and i am saying you need to call 01:46:37.260 --> 01:46:43.180 for a halt to half the vaccines on earth and you know normally they would just take everything 01:46:43.180 --> 01:46:47.820 down right but i mean you wouldn't have said this right you didn't say this before the pandemic 01:46:47.820 --> 01:46:52.620 so the pandemic opened your eyes a little bit too of course yeah it's fabulous because it's the 01:46:52.620 --> 01:46:59.180 same i mean i just found this about a month ago yeah yeah this one this one is like i call this 01:46:59.180 --> 01:47:05.580 a vaccine slayer because how are they going to defend against this you know definitely i mean 01:47:05.580 --> 01:47:10.940 the whole antibody cartoon is just devastating but this one is really good this is really 01:47:11.660 --> 01:47:18.140 a linchpin um yeah it's really yeah you know they're going to always say you don't have peer 01:47:18.140 --> 01:47:24.700 reviewed data published papers and i'm going to say the hypothesis is so tight can i ask you a 01:47:24.700 --> 01:47:29.420 question did you did you say on twitter or somewhere else that you sent this to Robert F 01:47:29.420 --> 01:47:35.580 Kennedy jr as well i didn't say this one no you no not this but the other stuff the early stuff the 01:47:35.660 --> 01:47:41.820 first i did and did you have all of it did you have any talk with anyone there did anybody 01:47:41.820 --> 01:47:47.980 who was it that said no do you know okay so what happened was 01:47:50.300 --> 01:47:56.380 you know i after i reached out to the NIH CDC FDA like was getting nowhere i was getting 01:47:56.380 --> 01:48:02.700 really depressed and so i finally started reaching out to anti-vax because i thought the proper 01:48:02.700 --> 01:48:07.740 approach to all this was to you know stay in the science world and reach all the you know 01:48:08.620 --> 01:48:15.580 the NIH FDA CDC directors and after a while i realized i'm not getting anywhere i couldn't 01:48:15.580 --> 01:48:21.420 believe how many of them would just say no and it was just utterly shocking to me because 01:48:21.420 --> 01:48:26.780 i'm giving you this the the problem and you guys are just walking away from this i even 01:48:26.780 --> 01:48:31.180 remember talking to an epidemiologist who is a little bit helpful to me i said when i sent you 01:48:31.180 --> 01:48:35.980 the information please email me back so i know you got the information 01:48:37.100 --> 01:48:41.100 this is how they were they just were trying to run away from me right so when i and then i 01:48:41.100 --> 01:48:45.180 started reaching out to other people and i remember reaching out to lots of other people 01:48:46.140 --> 01:48:51.340 uh so it's not a ron johnson was in the news right because he's anti-vax 01:48:51.980 --> 01:48:56.700 i reached out to the staff they loved my information i was making quite good headway 01:48:57.420 --> 01:49:02.860 and we had phone calls set up and we talked a couple of times and it was really moving well 01:49:02.860 --> 01:49:03.740 and i thought they were going to use it 01:49:08.780 --> 01:49:12.300 oh you just pulled out your mic or something check your microphone you like pulled it out or 01:49:12.300 --> 01:49:19.420 something how's that oh there you go so i i said why why wouldn't he use it and 01:49:19.500 --> 01:49:26.780 and and then they said no we talked to our doctors and they said it's it's not an issue 01:49:26.780 --> 01:49:30.620 tonight wow and you know who their doctors were 01:49:31.980 --> 01:49:36.780 Malone, McCullough, and Corey yeah then then we just have to get ron johnson on the phone again 01:49:36.780 --> 01:49:42.540 because he's listening to me now so yeah we have the opportunity to brief him with denny rancor 01:49:42.540 --> 01:49:48.300 so we're going to use denny rancor's data your biology and mine and we're going to update him 01:49:48.300 --> 01:49:53.740 in like less than three days oh you're you're you're connected yeah i am okay and we're going 01:49:53.740 --> 01:49:58.780 to convince him because because i think he's convinceable he's just oh you know you know how 01:49:58.780 --> 01:50:04.220 strong this is i do this is correct so then you know they they didn't help me back then and i only 01:50:04.220 --> 01:50:08.380 had the lung barrier issue back then the fasting which to me was huge still but they didn't they 01:50:08.380 --> 01:50:14.780 didn't want to listen i didn't know that they were behind ron johnson staff not working with me i 01:50:14.860 --> 01:50:19.980 had no idea and then i reached out to rfk you know i'd been working by myself for two and a half years 01:50:19.980 --> 01:50:25.820 and when i reached out to rfk and he responded i was so happy because i talked to his attorney 01:50:25.820 --> 01:50:28.940 because the best way to get to these people is their attorneys have their cell phones or their 01:50:28.940 --> 01:50:33.180 office phones so i felt that top 10 he gave me two minutes i spilled it sent them all the 01:50:33.180 --> 01:50:39.820 information his attorney must have been impressed enough to afford it to rfk that day rfk was impressed 01:50:39.820 --> 01:50:49.020 enough to send it to all his doctors 10 12 people three hours later no one moves that fast 01:50:49.020 --> 01:50:56.300 so i knew he he he felt this was something and then they beat me up for a couple days and i didn't 01:50:56.300 --> 01:51:03.900 know anyone i didn't recognize anyone but nasa i gave her a nickname nasty nasa and melone i didn't 01:51:03.900 --> 01:51:10.540 normal color time i didn't occur in the time and by the end of our emails back and forth 01:51:11.420 --> 01:51:18.940 i basically said what the fuck is wrong with you guys wow because i if you're anti-vax there's no 01:51:18.940 --> 01:51:24.300 paper trail on earth there's no one i'm giving you with copyrights everything well documented 01:51:24.300 --> 01:51:31.660 73 pages of that to foul cheat with the reply from dr. milling i got great paid information 01:51:31.660 --> 01:51:37.740 and great science kind of and you guys are going to turn this way i have no idea who you are and 01:51:37.740 --> 01:51:44.380 that was my first realization that maybe anti-vax leaders had another agenda so then i didn't do 01:51:44.380 --> 01:51:50.540 anything i was just depressed because the happiest day was when i got through to rfk and then i'm 01:51:51.740 --> 01:51:58.140 and then you know i was miserable and dark it was just bad for about a month i did nothing 01:51:58.780 --> 01:52:03.340 a few months later you know i had back surgery and i like somebody said oh you need to go on 01:52:03.340 --> 01:52:09.420 twitter because you'll grow big so i on october 22 last last october i got on twitter got no 01:52:09.420 --> 01:52:13.660 headway for two three weeks and then i wrote this big threat about fauci covering up the biggest 01:52:13.660 --> 01:52:20.140 mistaken medicine i got ten thousand dollars in a day and i grew to like 45 000 and rfk was 01:52:20.140 --> 01:52:26.860 constantly in the picture meaning david white side is his totally his grandson and he is a 01:52:26.860 --> 01:52:31.100 podcaster and he want to do a podcast with me i had like a lot of podcasts back then i did one 01:52:31.100 --> 01:52:38.380 with you two and yours was by far the best and you know he wouldn't get back to me first first we 01:52:38.380 --> 01:52:42.780 scheduled then it was and then the emails dropped off david white side and i found that somebody 01:52:42.780 --> 01:52:48.380 told me oh i think that's because rfk's grandson maybe they had something to do with it and so i 01:52:48.380 --> 01:52:54.540 got annoyed my emailed children's health defense directly and i said what the hell is going on 01:52:55.420 --> 01:53:02.460 and they emailed me back and said uh rfk junior is off the grid he went off to write a book he 01:53:02.460 --> 01:53:08.700 doesn't take any so everyone goes nothing i'm like really so i felt like he was avoiding me because 01:53:08.700 --> 01:53:17.980 if my stuff does grow big then the issue for him would be he had declined it he'd rather not 01:53:17.980 --> 01:53:23.180 purpose not have been he'd rather no no that he declined my information so he's trying to avoid 01:53:23.260 --> 01:53:31.020 me not talk to me ever and so you know what then i found out mccaller and melon 01:53:31.020 --> 01:53:36.700 you guys just meant you guys are pretty big on twitter you guys have to help me but you were 01:53:36.700 --> 01:53:41.180 through you're the guys that rejected me with rfk and then later i found out there are the ones 01:53:41.180 --> 01:53:46.140 that reject made center ron johnson staff reject my information and i'm like oh you guys rassels 01:53:46.140 --> 01:53:52.140 so i nicknamed melon moron melon and mccaller seemed a nice enough guy so i gave him a 01:53:52.780 --> 01:53:59.820 but chicken you know he's even a little timid and not aggressive but dark because look 01:54:00.700 --> 01:54:04.780 if you're in front of the teeth in front of you want to show and you're talking about all these 01:54:04.780 --> 01:54:09.980 horrible side effects people are having a code with the code vaccine but you had information that 01:54:09.980 --> 01:54:15.020 was incredible that could have stopped the vaccine in his tracks with the analyte not getting into 01:54:15.020 --> 01:54:21.020 the lung documented in 73 pages with replies from dr fauci and you're not going to use this 01:54:21.020 --> 01:54:28.140 information that maybe you were helping fauci cover up the biggest mistake in medicine 01:54:29.420 --> 01:54:36.940 that's mccaller and melon and gory and see nasty nast see when i saw her on that email with rfk 01:54:38.220 --> 01:54:45.660 i had already talked to her a month or two before and she was a again clueless woman didn't know 01:54:45.660 --> 01:54:50.540 what adult noise and i was very polite and explained everything and she said no it's not 01:54:50.620 --> 01:54:56.540 important and i say you know she said no i don't think any of this important and she rejected everything 01:54:56.540 --> 01:55:02.540 so when rfk forwarded all this information and i saw her name and melon you know melon is a scientist 01:55:02.540 --> 01:55:08.860 and he's the scientist in the group right he's not as part of you but so i thought melon would 01:55:08.860 --> 01:55:12.860 listen and so that's why i nicknamed him moron because like i gave you the best science right now 01:55:13.420 --> 01:55:17.740 and you are going to pretend you don't even know it or are you gonna are you gonna pretend you didn't 01:55:17.740 --> 01:55:23.420 read it i want to i want to just i want to just interrupt to make sure that you understand that 01:55:23.420 --> 01:55:34.140 at the time that you would have sent this to rfk uh meryl nast and rober melon were his most trusted 01:55:34.780 --> 01:55:43.180 people for the pandemic like i would go so far as to say that what basically happened was 01:55:43.740 --> 01:55:50.220 the story that i know was that meryl and and mary holland went to melon's ranch 01:55:51.020 --> 01:55:57.580 stayed two nights and left convinced that melon was a completely good guy who didn't know about the 01:55:57.580 --> 01:56:06.060 wf and who was just a horse farmer who was destroying his career to speak out and so at this stage 01:56:06.940 --> 01:56:13.660 roberts still sorry bobby still thought rober melon was a hero and his most trusted advisor 01:56:14.300 --> 01:56:21.580 meryl nast and mary holland were telling him that so when they ran this science past meryl and 01:56:22.140 --> 01:56:28.940 and bah and rober melon and they said this is dumb bobby was going to say yes because bobby isn't as 01:56:28.940 --> 01:56:34.780 sophisticated on the biological side as them and so he trusted them with his 01:56:35.820 --> 01:56:42.380 with everything at that stage in 2012 i'm never going to give uh i i've never but you know 01:56:44.700 --> 01:56:50.300 so a late person but now but i'm just saying now i'm a staff scientist at chd and so there's a 01:56:50.300 --> 01:56:56.700 difference and i can get you on on on okay a late person does have a responsibility so rfk is a 01:56:56.700 --> 01:57:01.740 late person yes doesn't have a responsibility that a melon or that that's so stupid i don't even 01:57:01.740 --> 01:57:06.380 know if she has a responsibility because she's so dumb but she's still a doctor right and she 01:57:06.380 --> 01:57:10.700 act like she knew what she was doing that's still a problem for her but she's been she's been one of 01:57:10.700 --> 01:57:17.820 the foremost experts on anthrax and other bioterrorism since her career started so yeah when i talked 01:57:17.820 --> 01:57:22.380 or i could not believe she dismissed everything she didn't even ask me any questions and you know 01:57:22.460 --> 01:57:28.780 normally when people are i i just felt like it as an anti-vax person that was my first exposure 01:57:28.780 --> 01:57:34.780 to the leaders and so when i got on twitter i was a little angry and then you know j about 01:57:34.780 --> 01:57:39.340 charia i had emailed him all my stuff many times stanford so i knew who he was he wrote the great 01:57:39.340 --> 01:57:45.820 barrington declaration and he kept ignoring me and i was in a hurry because everywhere i went i 01:57:45.820 --> 01:57:50.060 would be canceled in two or three months and i didn't think i'd be on twitter very long so i was in a 01:57:50.140 --> 01:57:57.820 real hurry and rush to get all this out and she uh you know j by charia would never 01:57:58.380 --> 01:58:03.420 i finally ended up calling him a dumb fuck because i said look you're either dumb if you don't 01:58:03.420 --> 01:58:09.020 understand this or you're a fuck because you're putting your ego before toran's lives so i mean 01:58:09.020 --> 01:58:14.300 that didn't help my case i got suspended a few times but so one by one i went through these guys 01:58:14.300 --> 01:58:19.740 and of course they all started hating me but i'm like look if you're an anthrax leader 01:58:19.740 --> 01:58:23.820 you have a certain responsibility your responsibility is to use the best 01:58:23.820 --> 01:58:31.260 science to get rid of the vaccine to stop the vaccine and if you think your science is better 01:58:31.260 --> 01:58:35.740 you have to debate me because i have incredible science and if you don't want to debate me we 01:58:35.740 --> 01:58:41.260 have to figure out what your motivations are because it's not for the people so yeah i made 01:58:41.260 --> 01:58:45.660 a lot of enemies that way but at the end of the day i don't i'm just trying to do the right thing 01:58:45.740 --> 01:58:50.300 just get the information out stop the stupid vaccine and of course in the process now i 01:58:50.300 --> 01:58:54.540 realize all vaccines are idiotic i didn't know this at the beginning of the pandemic right 01:58:55.100 --> 01:58:59.420 my kids are back in 2020 they got all their vaccines not that not that i was happy with it 01:58:59.420 --> 01:59:03.340 but they got all their vaccines when they were young and i remember the last time i went my 01:59:03.340 --> 01:59:09.260 son was what for right there three vials on the table and i'm like no i told you two at a time 01:59:09.260 --> 01:59:14.380 never more than two why are there three but pick them up they're all combos he was going to give 01:59:14.460 --> 01:59:19.740 my son eight vaccines in one day i just stormed out of there but see i don't trust pediatricians 01:59:19.740 --> 01:59:25.180 now right yeah and i i'm very happy with the american pediatrics right now because 01:59:25.980 --> 01:59:32.220 if you're really stating that you're looking out for the health of children i have damning 01:59:32.220 --> 01:59:38.700 information for your booster vaccines and you have to do the right thing so let's see if they do the 01:59:38.700 --> 01:59:46.220 right thing if they if they do block me and delete all my posts that's woofle misconduct now 01:59:46.780 --> 01:59:51.580 because even if this is only a hypothesis i say you know if i throw a banana off my roof 01:59:52.220 --> 01:59:57.820 my hypothesis is that it'll fall on flat i've never done a clinical trial don't have any peer 01:59:57.820 --> 02:00:03.580 reviews to say that happens but i'm sure that'll happen and that's kind of what this is the size 02:00:03.580 --> 02:00:10.140 behind this is so tight there is no room for rebuttal the only option is call for a halt for 02:00:10.140 --> 02:00:16.940 all booster vaccines with antigens that fit this criteria that's the only option they have no other 02:00:16.940 --> 02:00:23.100 option i kept telling them look it's nightmare for you but the bigger nightmare is for parents 02:00:23.100 --> 02:00:28.940 who have to live with their autistic children forever so if you're really interested in the 02:00:28.940 --> 02:00:33.900 health of your of the children you say you are you have to do the right thing because once you 02:00:33.900 --> 02:00:38.620 if you block me or delete all these posts parents have a right to know this information because 02:00:38.620 --> 02:00:43.900 it's a hypothesis and hasn't been studied but the size is so tight behind it there's no rebuttal 02:00:43.900 --> 02:00:50.540 possible and if you want to study it the parents are still going to want to know this information 02:00:50.540 --> 02:00:56.700 even if it's being studied because this isn't it's so damning for you that even if it's only 02:00:56.700 --> 02:01:01.580 hypotheses you have to let them know that this is an issue that we're investigating now 02:01:02.380 --> 02:01:09.020 and once a parent hears from me what the booster vaccines can do and i explain this string not 02:01:09.020 --> 02:01:15.260 one will ever let their child be vaccinated so what is the proper informed consent to give them 02:01:15.260 --> 02:01:22.780 this hypothesis if you don't willful misconduct then does a prep act really give you legal immunity 02:01:22.780 --> 02:01:25.740 no but not if it's wolf not if you're wolf way doing something wrong 02:01:26.700 --> 02:01:31.980 how can you possibly think that you can give a parent informed consent when i bring out the 02:01:31.980 --> 02:01:39.260 string theory which is damning for your industry it's scary for them would you do a podcast with 02:01:39.260 --> 02:01:44.460 brian hooker you know who brian hooker is i know brian hooker is uh they should i'll do anything 02:01:44.460 --> 02:01:50.540 you want to he's the chief scientist at uh children's health defense he has a 24-year-old autistic son 02:01:50.620 --> 02:01:54.700 and he's the guy who broke the story with the cdc covering up data on black kids with 02:01:54.700 --> 02:02:00.620 he when he sees this when he sees us he's going to be fuming man yes you're going to be on his 02:02:00.620 --> 02:02:07.260 show very soon i am sure i am going to make that happen um okay so the other thing that i'm 02:02:07.260 --> 02:02:12.060 going to promise that i'm going to do is i'm going to make some slides of your of this lecture 02:02:12.860 --> 02:02:19.340 as part of the ron johnson update and i would like to run them past you first so you got to give me 02:02:19.340 --> 02:02:26.060 a couple days but then we'll do it you know in a jay for everything about rfk i know he's a lay 02:02:26.060 --> 02:02:32.220 person so he doesn't get nearly the responsibility that all the doctors do no and i don't give it to 02:02:32.220 --> 02:02:38.860 him either but i will say to you that that we need to have him understand this so that he will say 02:02:38.860 --> 02:02:45.980 this we do okay because right now he still plays this game where he says you know i want the vaccines 02:02:45.980 --> 02:02:51.340 tested and there was no placebos when he really should be saying we know enough now 02:02:51.900 --> 02:02:58.380 and we need to reevaluate so i think we can push and i think we should and i think we should do it 02:02:58.380 --> 02:03:05.100 together i love it jay um i hope you don't feel uncomfortable with how this went because i love 02:03:05.100 --> 02:03:09.100 talking to you i love getting excited about it and you challenged me like nobody else does 02:03:09.740 --> 02:03:14.460 so i want you to have a strong mind you have a right and i i understand where the disagreement 02:03:14.460 --> 02:03:18.700 came from it was the the political language that you didn't like the way he said it i didn't mean 02:03:18.700 --> 02:03:24.940 that it's all good i told you i'm very very this this uh white boy i'm i'm impressed with your 02:03:24.940 --> 02:03:32.700 magnets i love them i'm excited um i think it's a good place to wrap but i don't want this to i 02:03:32.700 --> 02:03:37.900 love a day to be uh a thing that we stop i think we should have you on more often like regularly 02:03:37.900 --> 02:03:42.380 especially if you're not doing anything else but in the meantime i want to get you on brian's 02:03:42.380 --> 02:03:47.660 podcast because it gets a lot more coverage and and you'll be there too right uh maybe but i 02:03:47.660 --> 02:03:54.700 brian doesn't buy himself but if not he's great brian's great so i don't know what to do you 02:03:54.700 --> 02:04:00.220 don't need for a couple of days where to help okay where do i um where do i uh send everybody just 02:04:00.220 --> 02:04:07.660 to twitter jolly md uh basic i send her one i think i read my other account yes that's right okay good 02:04:07.660 --> 02:04:12.140 i'll put that up in a second thank you for taking the time and rearranging your schedule to talk 02:04:12.140 --> 02:04:18.300 to me thank you jay use that microphone all the time your voice sounds great all right i will 02:04:18.300 --> 02:04:26.300 bye bye bye holy balls did we just crush that or what did we just crush that or what 02:04:27.420 --> 02:04:35.100 you see the thing is is you got to be able to push you got to be able to push back you got to know 02:04:35.100 --> 02:04:40.940 enough immunology so you can have a discussion where there's some friction so that in the end 02:04:41.580 --> 02:04:48.300 both blades are sharper and that's what happened tonight i didn't get everything right he pushed 02:04:48.300 --> 02:04:55.180 back hard on whether there needs to be memory or not pushed back hard what mechanisms we're 02:04:55.180 --> 02:05:01.260 clearing the virus with he pushed back hard and that resulted in both of us understanding this 02:05:01.260 --> 02:05:10.380 idea and the concepts that we're trying to push better so what more can i say thanks jolly for coming 02:05:10.380 --> 02:05:16.540 on the show thanks for being here everybody um i don't know what to say other than bang bang boom 02:05:19.260 --> 02:05:23.020 you know we're just going to keep pushing this until we get it right until we get it done 02:05:23.660 --> 02:05:30.460 mark usatonic has been absolutely crushing it in the past few days following up on some of the 02:05:30.540 --> 02:05:41.660 things that i stumbled upon with regard to uh peter colas and antibodies and peter teal and 02:05:41.660 --> 02:05:47.420 absolera and that's just started i think you can already anticipate that we're going to have regular 02:05:47.420 --> 02:05:54.460 guy back on with mark and myself we're going to discuss the implications of his work and discoveries 02:05:54.460 --> 02:06:02.220 with regard to antibodies the antibody paradox and all of this other stuff so i hope you can hear 02:06:02.220 --> 02:06:06.940 that my lungs are as compromised as they are and so you understand why i sound terrible and why 02:06:06.940 --> 02:06:12.540 it's sometimes hard for me to come on but we're just going to keep going until i'm dead so please 02:06:12.540 --> 02:06:16.780 ladies and gentlemen i will see you again tomorrow night thanks for joining me thanks jolly again 02:06:16.780 --> 02:06:22.220 share the stream please share it if you want to support you can but the best way to do it is to 02:06:22.300 --> 02:06:27.020 share it on twitter and everywhere else we need this about there thanks guys 02:06:34.540 --> 02:06:41.260 i just got it today i just came in the mail today i don't know if it's going to do anything for me 02:06:42.140 --> 02:06:46.140 but i just came in the mail today 02:06:54.700 --> 02:07:03.580 let's get them let's get a mark let's get a mark steady pressure baby steady pressure everybody 02:07:03.580 --> 02:07:09.900 i love you man