WEBVTT 00:48.320 --> 00:52.824 She says her love for me could never die. 00:52.864 --> 01:06.277 That'd change if she ever found out about you and I. Oh, but her love was cold. 01:07.278 --> 01:10.020 Would it hurt her if she didn't know? 01:10.160 --> 01:13.523 Because when it gets too much, 01:21.351 --> 01:27.955 I'm gonna run to you. 01:27.975 --> 01:33.557 Cause when the feeling's right, I'm gonna run all night. 01:33.698 --> 01:41.282 I'm gonna run to you. 01:41.382 --> 01:44.043 She's got a heart of gold. 01:44.063 --> 01:45.664 She can't let me down. 02:08.558 --> 02:11.621 I need to feel your touch. 02:11.661 --> 02:15.085 I'm gonna run to you. 02:15.345 --> 02:18.328 Yeah, I'm gonna run to you. 02:18.428 --> 02:21.812 Cause when the ceiling's right, I'm gonna stay all night. 03:07.321 --> 03:08.023 you 03:39.189 --> 03:44.679 Oh, where the feeling's right now. 03:44.699 --> 03:45.139 Oh, yeah. 03:45.580 --> 03:49.186 Where the feeling's right now. 03:49.206 --> 03:49.848 I'm gonna rock you. 04:14.949 --> 04:15.710 That's a tough cut. 04:15.750 --> 04:17.551 I still have to learn how to cut that one right. 04:18.591 --> 04:24.795 Welcome to the show, ladies and gentlemen, playing with a little bit of technical changes made here in the background. 04:25.536 --> 04:32.320 Still trying to stay focused on the biology, not taking the bait on social media and trying to love your neighbor. 04:34.525 --> 04:39.850 There may be a missile landing in the background, or that's just an airplane. 04:40.590 --> 04:43.092 Anyway, love that Brian Adams. 04:43.133 --> 04:46.175 Yeah, it's like my high school kind of tunes. 04:46.255 --> 04:48.077 He's a great guy. 04:49.158 --> 04:57.385 Lots of songs about love and lost love and love and lost love and traveling with lost loves and chasing lost loves and stuff like that. 04:58.395 --> 05:07.657 Not the kind of music that my kid is listening to right now, unfortunately, but that's just the world that we live in Today I've got kind of a long program. 05:07.717 --> 05:26.320 I'm gonna try and push through it And get through it by two hours because I do want to go to the gym with my boys this afternoon at 2 30 However, I do have something quite interesting lined up I got a really short analysis of a PBS clip that I think just kind of sets us up for what what 05:27.529 --> 05:29.550 I'm not the first person to propose this. 05:30.950 --> 05:34.331 I think a lot of people need to take a swing at this tree. 05:35.411 --> 05:38.212 It's going to take a lot of lumberjacks to cut this tree down. 05:39.232 --> 05:47.514 I'm really interested in pursuing this on a very aggressive basis. 05:48.395 --> 05:52.816 I think recent American history has been, for the most part, hijacked. 05:53.956 --> 06:16.354 especially crucial details in American history, crucial, you know, structural narratives, if you will, about why it is that we do the things we do, we say the things that we do, or we even, you know, I don't know, put our military in the places that we put it and spend the money in the way that we spend it. 06:16.434 --> 06:16.695 And so, 06:17.935 --> 06:23.319 Today's a pretty interesting program because I think a lot of loose ends are coming together. 06:23.439 --> 06:36.467 If you haven't been paying attention to Mark Kulak out of Boston, Massachusetts, at Housatonic ITS, Housatonic Live, I would like to suggest that you're missing something quite extraordinary. 06:37.988 --> 06:43.492 He has put together some pieces that seem to fit in a pretty easy way. 06:43.612 --> 06:46.114 It's almost like, you know, you could assemble 06:48.456 --> 07:05.125 lots of different pieces and lots of different ways and you could pay attention to lots of different books and ignore other books and you know lots of different assemblies of American history could be could be created and maintained 07:06.105 --> 07:20.561 And Mark's got a really interesting take on how 9-11 and bioterrorism and nukes and the Department of Energy and the Human Genome Project and the impetus to 07:22.883 --> 07:38.017 use the controlled demolition of America via the dollar to try and convert the American population effectively to the status of experimental animal. 07:39.088 --> 08:04.862 Now, I'm not necessarily sure that, you know, there might be a lot of that language that Mark uses, that I use, that comes from our regular, you know, correspondence and friendship over the last five years, but I want to be very clear about my independence in my choice to talk about 9-11 in this context, choice not to talk about 9-11 in this context, 08:05.422 --> 08:11.306 My choice to talk about Israel or religion or anything like that is my personal view. 08:11.326 --> 08:19.932 It is my personal little struggle here that I try to share as honestly as I can with the people who watch this stream. 08:21.173 --> 08:29.098 And I still don't really know who to trust other than the four other people and two dogs in my house. 08:29.238 --> 08:29.639 That's it. 08:31.010 --> 08:39.045 I'm sorry, I don't want to be a creep to all the people that are scrolling over there, all the people that have... 08:40.988 --> 08:44.050 lent me support over the years. 08:45.250 --> 08:54.716 It is just that it's been very, very hard over the last five years to have seemingly have been betrayed so many times. 08:54.796 --> 08:59.698 And so I'm gonna try and be as objective as possible as I move through this story. 09:00.739 --> 09:10.144 But suffice it to say that you gotta get your head around the idea that the vast majority, if not all, 09:11.385 --> 09:24.949 The people that we are, have been, led to believe are significant are in fact actors that provide the outward facing Lollapalooza of liars behind which 09:27.029 --> 09:45.094 there are a number of you know cordoned off little curtained areas where where the real governance of our population happens the real decisions about what is going to happen those decisions are made elsewhere outside of our purview and on a time scale that we are 09:45.874 --> 09:48.175 by design not paying attention to. 09:48.656 --> 10:08.726 The real planners that are running things and funding things in America and in banks and in multinational organizations are all thinking on 20 to 40 to 60 to 100 year timeframes because their piles of money over which that they are steward are actually huge. 10:08.806 --> 10:13.049 They are large enough to think on that timescale and probably 10:13.809 --> 10:24.056 financially distributed, managed, whatever the right word is, well enough so that they can yield that or wield that kind of control. 10:25.237 --> 10:29.099 And so again, I'm not suggesting that I know who is doing it. 10:29.199 --> 10:30.400 But for example, 10:31.727 --> 10:48.036 It strikes me as a little odd that Matt Taibbi, before the pandemic, was referring to Goldman Sachs as the vampire squid that was responsible for orchestrating EU countries' failure, bank failure, I don't know what. 10:48.577 --> 10:49.697 They orchestrate a lot. 10:49.817 --> 10:55.340 And Matt Taibbi was all about calling out Goldman Sachs as the bad guys of all bad guys. 10:55.400 --> 10:59.703 But then at the beginning of the pandemic, not only did he completely ignore 11:00.503 --> 11:09.547 anything to do with lockdowns, masks, school closings, gain-of-function viruses, lab leaks, natural viruses. 11:09.587 --> 11:10.827 He ignored all of it. 11:11.987 --> 11:15.909 But he's also kind of, you know, just dropped the name Goldman Sachs. 11:15.929 --> 11:24.092 You know, the place where Bannon worked as an investment advisor before he went into filmmaking and narrative control. 11:25.373 --> 11:33.918 The place where Aaron Seary worked after he worked as a clerk for the Chief Justice of the Israeli Supreme Court. 11:34.598 --> 11:45.724 Then he also, don't forget, he was also the lawyer that helped Silverstein or whatever his name was with the guy who got like a billion dollars for the Twin Towers insurance policy. 11:46.204 --> 12:04.857 Yeah, Aaron Siri, the anti-vax guy, yeah, he was involved in a 9-11 lawsuit, insurance policy, and he was also involved with clerking for the Chief Justice of the Israeli Supreme Court for three years, which is an interesting job that I guess you don't get by filling out an application and sending it in. 12:06.775 --> 12:15.678 And now he's supposedly the anti-vax lawyer genius that's kind of behind the broader health freedom movement of which Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 12:15.718 --> 12:21.180 and apparently, you know, Jay Bhattacharya and Robert Malone and all these people are a part of. 12:23.440 --> 12:25.441 This is not funny, ladies and gentlemen. 12:25.481 --> 12:27.082 This is American history. 12:28.902 --> 12:33.764 And it's available at our fingertips to document, to objectively 12:35.499 --> 12:48.941 archive and replace what this national security state is handing us on a silver platter, of course, for free on social media, complete with a wide variety of different bands that are willing to sing songs about it. 12:51.946 --> 12:54.667 That's the magic of this National Security Theater. 12:54.687 --> 12:57.207 And so I think it's important that we keep working. 12:58.148 --> 12:59.728 And so I plan to keep working. 13:00.648 --> 13:02.929 Thank you very much again for joining me. 13:04.289 --> 13:06.570 And I will see you again in a minute. 13:08.610 --> 13:13.131 Yes, I think I'm just going to say some stuff about these guys. 13:14.011 --> 13:16.672 And then, yeah, I don't know what I'm going to do here. 13:17.312 --> 13:18.434 I think that's all I'm gonna do. 13:18.454 --> 13:23.500 I think that's what I'll do is just do... I'm just trying to play around with all these screens. 13:23.540 --> 13:26.725 I'm trying to figure out if I know how to use them all right now. 13:26.765 --> 13:31.151 So just a little bit of patience would be awesome. 13:31.291 --> 13:32.693 I think this is the one I want, right? 13:53.622 --> 13:56.926 But you can tell if someone's lying, you know, you can sort of feel it. 13:59.349 --> 14:00.029 And I have lied. 14:00.049 --> 14:01.111 I'm sure I'll lie again. 14:01.131 --> 14:03.914 I don't want to lie, you know, and I don't think I'm a liar. 14:04.014 --> 14:05.035 I try not to be a liar. 14:05.055 --> 14:05.876 I don't want to be a liar. 14:05.896 --> 14:09.200 I think it's like really important not to be a liar. 14:11.596 --> 14:14.977 I guess I would ask myself, like, I mean, I lie. 14:15.578 --> 14:17.678 If I'm really cornered or something, I lie. 14:17.698 --> 14:19.679 I really try not to. 14:19.699 --> 14:21.520 I try never to lie on TV. 14:21.700 --> 14:23.441 I just don't, you know, I don't like lying. 14:23.561 --> 14:26.622 I certainly do it, you know, out of weakness or whatever. 14:52.229 --> 14:53.311 Truth is good for kids. 14:53.752 --> 14:57.601 We're so busy lying, we don't even recognize the truth no more in this society. 14:58.062 --> 14:59.786 We want everybody to feel good. 15:00.087 --> 15:01.791 That's not the way life is. 15:13.885 --> 15:14.926 Welcome to the NewsHour. 15:15.206 --> 15:19.548 The political fallout from the murder of conservative activist Charlie Cook continues. 15:20.028 --> 15:30.013 Last night, Disney suddenly suspended ABC's Jimmy Kimmel Live, following comments Kimmel made about how President Trump's supporters were responding to Kirk's murder. 15:30.553 --> 15:38.357 That suspension was cheered by the president and his allies, but it's also raised concern of censorship and the future of the First Amendment. 15:38.918 --> 15:43.360 Today, Democrats on Capitol Hill introduced a bill to protect free speech. 15:44.759 --> 15:59.239 One of the things that I want to start out with as a teaching moment here is making sure everybody understands that the proposal at hand here is that the entire two-party theater is staged. 15:59.799 --> 16:10.469 such that PBS NewsHour, wittingly or unwittingly, the participants of this narrative, just like Fox NewsHour, wittingly or unwittingly, is participants of this narrative. 16:11.029 --> 16:15.593 Most of these people have their Screen Actors Guild card. 16:15.633 --> 16:16.755 They are memberships 16:17.395 --> 16:32.322 They are members in an organization of people whose job it is to read the script that they are given, and more importantly, whose job it is to, as best they can, to the best of their abilities, read the script as directed. 16:34.878 --> 16:48.856 And so yes, of course, you know, John Malkovich is allowed to read the script exactly as he wants to, but that most actors, in order to get to the stage where you're John Malkovich, need to read the script as directed. 16:49.750 --> 16:51.191 And that's what these people do. 16:51.872 --> 17:04.402 They don't have the requisite knowledge to question the scripts that they are given every day after day after day after day from a group of people who are required to produce a script day after day after day. 17:04.922 --> 17:12.628 Only a certain number of those people behind the scenes need to be willing to stay on this script, but I assure you it is enough. 17:13.549 --> 17:15.331 However many is required plus 10. 17:17.529 --> 17:26.313 such that this guy knows or doesn't know that he is accepting a job, that his job is to read the script and assume that it is right. 17:27.094 --> 17:34.818 Even if it is right, but wrong in a way that is necessary for national security, they need to read the script and not question it. 17:35.118 --> 17:41.901 Read it as if they almost themselves put it together and are sure that all the research that supports it is real. 17:41.961 --> 17:43.242 That's how they're supposed to read it. 17:47.765 --> 17:48.806 That's censorship. 17:49.407 --> 17:51.268 That's state speech control. 17:51.889 --> 17:53.490 That's not America. 17:54.311 --> 17:59.396 And so what's happening here is a fake theater about free speech. 18:00.777 --> 18:08.004 The argument now here is, of course, oh, now the MAGA people are trying to censor their bad guy, the left. 18:08.104 --> 18:08.885 And so the left 18:09.406 --> 18:14.527 in the right, and the right does it when they want to, and the left does it when they want to, and that's crazy. 18:14.567 --> 18:19.528 But then maybe we should have an open discussion about what times there is necessary to censor speech. 18:20.028 --> 18:23.249 Maybe we, you know, we all agree that you can't shout, yell, and fire. 18:23.609 --> 18:28.610 We all agree that if free speech results in violence, then you can't do that either. 18:29.050 --> 18:35.471 So they want to open this door, just like they want to open this door to the idea that they could protect you on 18:36.011 --> 18:56.553 the internet if everybody had a digital id and we knew who people were so on the other side of the internet somewhere in another canyon that doesn't echo over to this part there's a band that's playing a very similar sound with a very similar combination of guitar bass and drum but they're saying something about how digital id is the way to protect our kids on the internet but 18:56.873 --> 19:10.681 all of these things are going to bubble in the background for the next few years and Donald Trump and the rest of these people are all part of that theater and they don't need to know what's coming next they just need to know that oh my gosh i got my cue i guess i'm on stage 19:12.151 --> 19:27.736 One of the people that I pointed out about a week ago is named Mark Maron that I noticed that was on all these B-level and C-level podcasts on YouTube and on Rumble talking about how he's tired of these woke comedians like Joe Rogan who make jokes about trans people. 19:28.476 --> 19:31.599 and said how, you know, trans people don't have any rights anymore. 19:31.659 --> 19:34.201 Trans people are left afraid in their houses. 19:34.261 --> 19:35.822 So maybe stop doing the jokes. 19:36.323 --> 19:39.685 And he's been on podcast after podcast after podcast. 19:39.805 --> 19:40.226 Why? 19:40.246 --> 19:50.774 Because he's got a Netflix show that's all about how Joe Rogan is wrong about COVID and was silly during COVID and is silly about this stuff and doesn't know what he's talking about. 19:51.375 --> 19:55.999 And of course that's being hyped here as part of the same thing. 19:56.499 --> 19:58.220 because who are they gonna show here? 19:58.560 --> 20:04.122 Who do they mention multiple times this week or last week on PBS NewsHour? 20:04.222 --> 20:05.082 Mark Maron. 20:05.122 --> 20:07.063 Now, why is Mark Maron important to me? 20:08.003 --> 20:23.249 Because Mark Maron is somebody I had no idea who he was until about February or March of 2020 when I started to be interacting with him and other people on a weird website 20:24.127 --> 20:35.790 that was called The Burning Platform, and they had their own little forum, and there they had shared a couple of my videos, so somebody said, hey, there's this website, and they're talking about your videos. 20:37.171 --> 20:47.294 And on that website, you're anonymous, and lots of people had funny names, and I was told that this one account with a funny name called Hard Scrabble Farmer, I believe, 20:48.257 --> 20:52.980 Maybe it's not quite that, so you won't be able to find it and verify it, but something like that. 20:53.040 --> 20:56.642 And that guy was supposed to be Mark Marin, and I had to look up Mark Marin. 20:56.682 --> 21:04.647 I spelled his name wrong a few times before I got what I thought was the right guy, a comedian who'd been on a few late night shows. 21:05.228 --> 21:10.691 You know, like Joe Rogan had been on a few late night shows where you do like a five minute, eight minute bit. 21:12.907 --> 21:25.940 So it's interesting because that guy was kind of saying that I was right about the lab leak and cool guy and wow, that guy's awesome and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, making me think that he had a podcast and maybe I could be on it. 21:27.025 --> 21:36.612 But of course, little did I know that he was just kind of starting his podcast because somebody told him that this was the time to start a podcast just like Brett Weinstein did, just like all these clowns did. 21:37.073 --> 21:38.714 And they didn't have to know why. 21:38.794 --> 21:44.719 They just had to be told by somebody who was financially behind them, somebody who was like, 21:45.419 --> 21:51.583 I don't know intellectually behind them in the sense of somebody that I looked up to because they have a private jet and four houses. 21:52.103 --> 21:54.024 And so I like that guy and he likes me. 21:54.064 --> 21:57.346 And so if he told me I should start a podcast, I'm going to start a podcast. 21:57.907 --> 22:01.749 If he's going to buy me a studio in my backyard to start a podcast, I'm going to do that. 22:03.370 --> 22:05.051 And that's what we're talking about here. 22:05.131 --> 22:06.332 People were put in place. 22:07.728 --> 22:12.111 because they have already tried this several times using TV and, you know, whatever. 22:12.131 --> 22:13.712 It doesn't quite work. 22:13.952 --> 22:17.354 You gotta have a spontaneous sort of... 22:19.110 --> 22:21.932 grassroots feeling of the movement. 22:21.972 --> 22:32.361 Everybody's got to have the impression that they're part of a much larger wave of realization, a much larger wave of awakening or awareness. 22:32.882 --> 22:46.413 That's what makes social media so magical and very different from watching TV or the news or even a late night program where there's a loud audience that seems to agree on what's funny. 22:48.294 --> 23:05.361 nothing is like the illusion of social media for creating the idea that wow this video is going around his are everybody watching this video because boy does this drive me bananas that is something that cannot be never has occurred with regular television i mean 23:06.461 --> 23:06.762 Never. 23:07.062 --> 23:12.046 I mean, that is a new level of malevolence that only social media allows. 23:12.166 --> 23:18.752 And so you have on the background this normal media that's able to play off of it. 23:18.792 --> 23:28.660 And more importantly, what you should see is that PBS NewsHour over the last two or three years has shifted almost exclusively to saying, you know, Donald Trump tweeted. 23:29.981 --> 23:31.642 The Biden administration tweeted. 23:32.549 --> 23:37.935 Substack author, so-and-so-and-so, who also publishes her stuff on, I don't know what. 23:39.076 --> 23:43.320 That kind of stuff is very normal on PBS NewsHour now. 23:44.621 --> 23:50.027 Almost as if their funders have told them that the new relevant media is there. 23:50.087 --> 23:52.530 The new relevant media platforms are these. 23:54.500 --> 24:15.915 And it's remarkable how many people before and after the sale of X during the pandemic have profited from this sale or were complaining about X before the sale and sort of excited about it afterward, even though nothing really changed. 24:16.015 --> 24:20.278 It just, it essentially was a complete drama over nothing. 24:21.403 --> 24:33.145 that somehow Elon Musk for some exorbitant number of billions of dollars bought free speech back from the guy with the long beard because the guy with the long beard wasn't letting us have free speech. 24:34.165 --> 24:35.805 It's just remarkably dumb. 24:37.226 --> 24:41.346 It's remarkably dumb when you look back at it and you see how things line up. 24:41.806 --> 24:50.628 What's more remarkably dumb is when we look back and see that after 9-11 there wasn't this same level of 24:51.699 --> 24:58.822 of actors on TV and actors on late night programs with the story. 24:59.942 --> 25:02.823 Just a couple, only a couple. 25:05.284 --> 25:11.786 And everything after that was read via script, you know, a couple news programs, whatever. 25:12.246 --> 25:15.768 And in fact, the big movies that came out, came out years later, 25:16.969 --> 25:32.702 And curiously enough, as Mark showed last night, we're made by people and combinations of people and partnerships between people that just don't make any right sense in the history of modern America if they're never mentioned. 25:34.183 --> 25:38.267 Especially because of the relevance of Steve Bannon now with Donald Trump. 25:39.448 --> 25:45.630 the relevance of the health freedom movement and all of these people relative to Donald Trump. 25:45.650 --> 25:49.570 It just doesn't make any sense at all that this is not mentioned. 25:49.591 --> 25:52.331 This can't possibly be a real news organization. 25:52.771 --> 26:07.555 And most of what is on the internet, on Substack, on X, cannot be real people because again, there are people that have dedicated 20 years of their life 26:09.284 --> 26:30.694 Like that fraud that I met at the Red Pill conference two and a half years ago, this guy Gage, that's remarkable that there have been people in place for that long because they lost control of that whole situation most likely. 26:30.714 --> 26:36.197 And so they had to have people, they had to put people out there and Gage was likely one of them. 26:38.334 --> 26:54.960 When he got co-opted, I have no idea, but that guy approached me in a elevator that was wide open about 270 degrees with glass in a hotel at the Red Pill Conference two years ago after I had given my presentation. 26:56.261 --> 27:02.143 In the elevator were three ladies with wet swimsuits and towels around themselves. 27:05.546 --> 27:05.806 Yes. 27:06.767 --> 27:10.450 And so I got in the elevator and then there comes this guy, Gage. 27:10.530 --> 27:11.811 I can't remember what is his name. 27:13.992 --> 27:22.459 It's, it's not Andrew Gage, but it's, it's Richard Gage. 27:23.199 --> 27:28.223 And Richard Gage comes into the elevator in front of these ladies. 27:28.263 --> 27:34.848 And there might've been a little girl or a little kid, or I might be remembering that part wrong, but there were multiple people that were coming from the pool. 27:35.589 --> 27:49.358 and they were in the elevator and I got in the elevator and then Richard Gage got in the elevator and we rode up and he looked at me and I looked at him and I think there was some 27:50.902 --> 28:16.777 Conversation like maybe I made a joke about the pool or something like that But when we got to his floor again, remember this is an elevator that you can see out so I think Something like the swimmers were looking out as they were barefoot dripping and I maybe I asked him if the pool was warm something like that You know then get up to the fourth floor or whatever floor was that Richards gonna get out the doors open And he looks at me and yes, he had to look like this. 28:17.218 --> 28:19.399 He says so you had to tell the truth, didn't you? 28:21.112 --> 28:23.294 And I was absolutely stunned. 28:23.414 --> 28:29.698 I didn't, you know, you'd think I would have a smart ass remark, you know, like that, but it, I wasn't prepared. 28:29.758 --> 28:31.999 I wasn't even thinking he was going to say anything to me. 28:32.139 --> 28:33.200 It was kind of bizarre. 28:33.700 --> 28:46.349 And I got to see if I've ever, I should really look to see if I've ever told this story right after the red pill conference, because it's possible that I'm missing a, a part of the conversation in the elevator. 28:46.409 --> 28:49.451 Cause somehow or another, it feels like something happened in the elevator. 28:49.471 --> 28:50.372 I don't know if there was like a, 28:51.192 --> 28:57.716 Maybe I said something clever before that in a nice way to Gage, or I spoke to the swimmers, I can't remember which. 28:58.177 --> 29:00.958 But when he was getting out is when he said, so you had to tell the truth, didn't you? 29:01.819 --> 29:03.360 And I didn't know what to do with that. 29:03.380 --> 29:03.780 What? 29:05.837 --> 29:07.218 What else should I have done? 29:07.438 --> 29:08.439 And the doors closed. 29:09.099 --> 29:10.320 It was remarkable. 29:10.340 --> 29:11.702 It was a remarkable day. 29:11.722 --> 29:24.853 And so what strikes me as very important about this is Mark's recent shows have been about the 9-11. 29:24.873 --> 29:32.640 A lot of Mark's work has been about trying to figure out why it is that this book 29:33.675 --> 29:44.960 The Big Shot AIDS vaccine and a few other books, like the book Germs, came out and talked so much about bioterrorism and anthrax and this kind of thing. 29:47.401 --> 30:00.348 And there are lots of peripheral clues about that with regard to Robert Malone behind Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Merrill Nass behind Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Veer Sharav behind Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. 30:00.388 --> 30:01.088 And those three 30:02.560 --> 30:22.718 aforementioned people were in a congressional phone call discussion back in I don't know 2001 was it or about the anthrax vaccine and whether or not kids could be used to test it or it's remarkable how long these people have have had 30:24.537 --> 30:51.782 have had interaction with one another and have had seemingly, I guess, pretty good working relationships because this is over decades that they have come into contact with each other in professional situations, apparently over very serious issues like the fidelity of the vaccine schedule or the definition of and the recompense that autism people should or shouldn't be given based on the damage caused by vaccines. 30:51.862 --> 30:53.422 All these major issues 30:54.162 --> 30:59.163 over 20 or 30 years, these people have been working together with them. 30:59.243 --> 31:06.605 So it's strange in a way to think that no one on the PBS NewsHour would report that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.' 31:06.565 --> 31:18.628 's most close advisors are people that are associated with the biosecurity, bioterrorism, bioweapons, national security state apparatus since the early 2000s. 31:20.697 --> 31:23.938 That's a remarkable thing not to report regularly. 31:24.918 --> 31:32.260 Maybe for some people in the audience, it might even make them feel better that, well, at least if he's connected to the neocons, then who cares, right? 31:32.300 --> 31:40.722 I mean, if he's connected to all the people that the Bush administration showed him who boss and won the war on terror, then why do I care? 31:41.202 --> 31:44.063 Because that's all the same narrative here. 31:45.316 --> 31:58.782 that somehow or another, this giant security apparatus of America that is at least partially funded by 450 or 400, sorry, 340 or 350 million Americans tax money that has a lot of money for aircraft carriers and nuclear missiles and tanks and all this stuff. 32:13.263 --> 32:13.485 Right? 32:13.907 --> 32:15.696 The control of this. 32:17.325 --> 32:20.187 is completely left to chance. 32:21.008 --> 32:32.656 And if we would just get our act together as voters in America, you know, we could in theory put good guys in charge, but unfortunately the voters in America can't get their act together. 32:32.776 --> 32:46.125 And so inevitably, you know, wow, it's crazy, but this, this completely foreign funded fake, you know, person, Trump with the help of Russia was able to win once, no twice. 32:48.499 --> 32:50.481 And we're so dumb as to believe that. 32:51.982 --> 33:01.472 It's like being in a school bus and all the adults in the first six seats are saying, yeah, there's nothing we can do about Donald Trump being the driver. 33:02.072 --> 33:05.716 And if he wants to go to a drive-in movie, that's where we're going. 33:09.198 --> 33:10.480 because he got elected, right? 33:11.201 --> 33:20.594 And so we ride in that bus and that's just the agreement that everybody in the first six seats has that they're just going to agree that, you know, it's not our fault. 33:20.674 --> 33:21.715 He's in the driver's seat. 33:21.735 --> 33:22.757 Well, it's not our fault. 33:22.797 --> 33:23.758 She's in the driver's seat. 33:23.778 --> 33:24.760 Well, it's not our fault. 33:25.160 --> 33:26.222 He was in charge of that. 33:29.241 --> 33:53.492 and now think about how that apparatus could be used in a military fashion in order to create almost any narrative about any other country or even a biological phenomenon like a pandemic or even a murder that has now turned to free speech and whether or not censorship yada yada yada 33:56.434 --> 33:58.075 And on the other side, what is it? 33:58.115 --> 34:01.437 It's 300,000 people went to a stadium because they believe in this guy. 34:01.477 --> 34:04.239 And all of these people were testifying on his behalf. 34:04.299 --> 34:06.320 I'm not even sure what we saw yesterday. 34:06.940 --> 34:09.562 If anybody watched that, it's just, it's crazy. 34:10.923 --> 34:12.243 Where have they taken us? 34:15.786 --> 34:18.967 We've got to wake up and realize that something is not right. 34:19.027 --> 34:23.110 And we've got to wake up and realize that it's social media and we've got to get off. 34:25.922 --> 34:26.383 It's crazy. 34:26.423 --> 34:27.725 I didn't think I was going to say that much. 34:28.065 --> 34:29.568 Buke to Kimmel suspension. 34:29.788 --> 34:35.838 Senate Democrats today accused the Trump administration of using Charlie Kirk's murder to silence critics. 34:37.577 --> 34:38.998 It began four days ago. 34:39.478 --> 34:47.221 ABC's late-night host took jabs at Trump and the right over their weekend messaging about the suspect in Kirk's assassination. 34:47.641 --> 34:59.786 We had some new lows over the weekend, with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it. 35:00.026 --> 35:12.454 That monologue aired after a weekend when Utah's Republican governor had suggested the suspect had leftist ideology, but the day before, prosecutors and the suspect's mother echoed that same belief. 35:14.535 --> 35:20.558 Then, yesterday, some sharp criticism from the chairman of the FCC, the Federal Communications Commission. 35:23.709 --> 35:30.856 Trump appointed Brendan Carr threatened federal action if local ABC affiliates didn't do something about Kimmel. 35:31.396 --> 35:36.621 These companies can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly. 35:37.122 --> 35:38.483 So what's happening here, right? 35:38.523 --> 35:43.267 This is the NewsHour using footage from a podcast. 35:43.988 --> 35:49.269 which essentially concedes to the relevance of podcasts. 35:49.869 --> 35:58.151 And this administration is almost entirely composed of administrators that are more than willing to do podcasts. 35:58.191 --> 36:06.233 The guy on the FDA, the guy at the HHS, the guy at the NIH, they're all doing podcasts, podcasts all the time. 36:07.375 --> 36:21.389 And what that does by definition is shifts the, if they're not available, and even not more importantly, they're not using network media, then by definition, they are shifting the focus of that 36:22.455 --> 36:31.058 those Americans that are looking for their output or whatever they're doing and following them, they're shifting that attention off of this. 36:31.798 --> 36:32.778 They don't see this. 36:32.998 --> 36:38.780 But at the same time, if you did see it, it would still be telling you that social media is relevant. 36:39.380 --> 36:44.722 PBS NewsHour would still be saying Robert Malone's name, just like, you know, on our 36:46.022 --> 36:50.424 Corners of social media are on the more conservative side of social media. 36:50.484 --> 37:12.555 Robert Malone is known in a much wider way It's just an illusion and it's only an illusion that's possible to sustain because social media and we We use it willingly we use it skillfully We think that if we if we tweet the right thing or post the right thing that we're gonna have an effect and that's not how it works It's not how it works at all 37:14.598 --> 37:18.720 on Kimmel, or there's going to be additional work for the FCC ahead. 37:19.120 --> 37:26.162 Then, a company called Nexstar, which operates multiple ABC stations, said it would start pulling Kimmel off the air. 37:26.783 --> 37:32.505 Nexstar needs the FCC's approval for a proposed $6.2 billion merger. 37:32.725 --> 37:41.448 Now, if what we are saying is true, and this orchestration extends over decades of time, 37:42.307 --> 38:01.751 then what you would need is a group of people who have decades of trust in one another, a decades long relationship, a friendship where deep trust, because, you know, I remember that time when you did that line in the, you know, I remember that time when you slept with, you know, 38:03.567 --> 38:06.289 And these kinds of bonds, it doesn't matter. 38:06.329 --> 38:15.455 It can just be that I remember that time you were really drunk and you said this, or you did that, or that happened to you, or when I had to bail you out. 38:15.835 --> 38:17.116 It doesn't matter what it is. 38:17.296 --> 38:25.442 I don't, I think one of the best points that has nothing to do with 9-11 or American history or anything else is just how remarkable it is. 38:25.522 --> 38:27.944 And Mark Kulak made this point really well the other night. 38:28.484 --> 38:30.606 How remarkable it is that Mark, 38:31.286 --> 38:34.987 Really nice guy, upstanding citizen, as far as I can tell. 38:35.007 --> 38:40.328 He doesn't have friends from 30 years. 38:40.408 --> 38:46.169 He doesn't have professional colleagues that he's worked with on and off for 30 years. 38:46.729 --> 38:55.651 He doesn't have a professional relationship with anybody that has extended that long because of, you know, career changes and whatever. 38:55.671 --> 38:59.592 And I don't either. 39:00.945 --> 39:12.835 After being that long in academia, you know, after being in that many labs and having that many students, I have exactly nobody with whom I'm in contact for that long. 39:12.855 --> 39:21.483 I have one friend who I'm in contact with since 2016 when we moved back to the United States from the Netherlands right before Trump was elected. 39:24.150 --> 39:29.153 And so that's my longest friend right now in the United States that I talk to or see. 39:29.713 --> 39:43.401 You know, I have some other friends in Chicago, but because all of those friends shared my now deceased friend, Nathan, who's on my slides sometimes, it's not really the same kind of thing anymore. 39:43.461 --> 39:47.863 Because every time we talk to each other, it's kind of the first thing that comes out. 39:49.544 --> 39:50.425 And so it's a... 39:52.952 --> 40:18.769 It's a weird thing to think that the people that are in front of us, the people that they're talking about, the people that we have been talking about, the people that are responsible for Trump derangement syndrome, the people that are responsible for curating the 9-11 safe narratives, the people that were responsible for curating the anti-vax narrative for the last six or 10 years, they're all people intertwined with people who have show business connections for more than 30 years. 40:21.994 --> 40:23.896 That is fricking remarkable. 40:26.940 --> 40:32.766 What's more special though is that no one is reporting it and it was not like it was hidden information. 40:32.826 --> 40:34.168 It's right there in front of us. 40:36.821 --> 40:38.041 It's special. 40:38.241 --> 40:39.602 It really is very special. 40:39.622 --> 40:40.662 Then more dominoes. 40:41.222 --> 40:46.923 Conservative Sinclair Broadcasting, the largest owner of ABC affiliates, said they'd do the same. 40:47.603 --> 40:58.566 Sinclair said Kimmel must apologize to Kirk's family and quote, make a meaningful personal donation to the Kirk family and Turning Point USA, which is Kirk's political group. 41:00.541 --> 41:02.902 While meeting with the British prime minister in the U.K. 41:02.942 --> 41:06.523 today, President Trump rejected the idea that free speech was under attack. 41:06.563 --> 41:10.884 DONALD TRUMP, President of the United States of America Well, Jimmy Kimmel was fired because he had bad ratings, more than anything else. 41:10.944 --> 41:14.364 And he said a horrible thing about a great gentleman known as Charlie Kirk. 41:14.604 --> 41:17.985 And Jimmy Kimmel is not a talented person. 41:18.045 --> 41:19.725 And they should have fired him a long time ago. 41:19.845 --> 41:22.346 So, you know, you can call that free speech or not. 41:23.083 --> 41:29.289 This summer, the president celebrated when CBS canceled the show of another of his critics, Stephen Colbert. 41:30.089 --> 41:40.559 CBS cited financial reasons for the cancellation, even as its parent company, Paramount, was finishing a deal of its own, which also required FCC approval. 41:41.080 --> 41:46.224 But critics say Colbert's and Kimmel's political positions were why they were targeted. 41:47.901 --> 41:48.862 There he is right there. 41:48.902 --> 41:49.902 That's Mark Maron. 41:50.983 --> 41:57.467 And that's the guy I did a show about a couple, maybe two weeks ago, to show you that he was going all over the place. 41:57.507 --> 42:01.109 He's got a Netflix special where he's doing stand-up. 42:02.023 --> 42:04.525 And so his card has been pulled. 42:05.166 --> 42:18.557 And so he's on stage now and he's going to be part of this, you know, group of people that further, you know, cordons off the thing and the people that we're going to call like nutcases. 42:18.737 --> 42:26.724 And remember that if you take away the COVID vaccine, if you remember, if you take away the COVID vaccine, we still have a country of 42:29.547 --> 42:35.074 80% people that believe vaccines are completely safe, and there's no reason to worry about them. 42:36.636 --> 42:37.677 That's where we are. 42:37.697 --> 42:39.419 That is the reality of it. 42:39.639 --> 42:43.784 Even in the most optimistic appraisal, there is a 42:47.800 --> 42:57.449 a skepticism of the COVID vaccine, a skepticism of the mRNA, and that is not a 50-50 split like the election was or something like that. 42:57.909 --> 43:08.038 We need to be very aware of that because that is actively hidden, that supermajority is actively hidden, and he's of course being queued up 43:08.678 --> 43:34.085 to start to slowly reveal that supermajority to the conservative side because again remember he was on the conservative side in 2020 on the website called the burning platform courting me as possibly a podcast guest when i was riding my bike saying it's a lab leak do you see this yet do you see it yet this is what authoritarianism looks like right now in this country it's happening 43:34.969 --> 43:43.835 Last night, multiple comedians denounced Kimmel's suspension as censorship, including Wanda Sykes, who was set to be a guest on Kimmel last night. 43:44.095 --> 43:52.982 WANDA SYKES, Actress on Kimmel's Suspension": He didn't end the Ukraine war or solve Gaza within his first week, but he did end freedom of speech. 43:54.039 --> 43:55.140 within his first year. 43:56.100 --> 44:02.644 And, today, former late night host David Letterman weighed in, talking with our colleague, The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg. 44:02.924 --> 44:13.651 And you can't go around firing somebody because you're fearful or trying to suck up to an authoritarian criminal administration. 44:13.951 --> 44:21.535 Okay, so this is the problem I have and I'm going to try and hit it as hard as I can all the time from now on going forward. 44:22.316 --> 44:32.662 You cannot claim to believe extreme things and then not do extreme things as far as action goes. 44:33.282 --> 44:41.027 You can't say that you think the president and his administration is a criminal regime. 44:41.907 --> 44:51.114 Unless you are willing to take very extreme Measures and that's not going on an arts festival and calling it any criminal regime. 44:51.134 --> 45:07.688 That's too much I'm sorry, but that's got to be theater That's got to be theater it's got to be a scripted nonsense theater because nobody 45:08.427 --> 45:09.128 would say that. 45:09.208 --> 45:18.596 Just like right now, you cannot take anybody seriously who's going to go on TV and say that, you know, vaccines cause autism. 45:18.656 --> 45:23.080 That is not something, I'm sorry, that's not something you can take seriously. 45:23.120 --> 45:27.884 You cannot take yourself seriously if you think those three words together mean anything. 45:27.945 --> 45:32.148 Just like if you say, this is a criminal regime, that's just ridiculous. 45:32.729 --> 45:33.389 It can't be. 45:34.230 --> 45:35.730 Otherwise, that means what? 45:35.870 --> 45:43.872 It means that the entire membership of Congress is going along with a criminal regime when they have the power to do something about it. 45:45.072 --> 45:57.655 It means that the entire national security state of 18 or 19 intelligence agencies spread across our bureaucracy is just going along with it, even though apparently it's a criminal regime. 46:01.354 --> 46:08.940 And so you can't say that your son or your daughter 25 years ago got autism because of the MMR vaccine. 46:09.380 --> 46:19.969 And ever since you've been fighting for a big top tent of health freedom, having gotten nowhere, but participated in the general campaign of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 46:20.009 --> 46:20.669 for president. 46:21.890 --> 46:24.492 You can't just, you can't take people like that seriously. 46:24.953 --> 46:28.876 And America as a country needs to see that essentially we've been undermined. 46:30.908 --> 46:41.995 And the most important thing might be to figure out whether the people that undermine us have loyalties to other countries or other nations or in some way are guilty of treason. 46:42.035 --> 46:44.857 And I'm not saying anything other than the truth. 46:45.138 --> 46:53.923 I really believe that there are people that are either unwitting participants in treason or have actively engaged in treason. 46:54.023 --> 46:59.067 The undermining of the American government and American society 47:01.270 --> 47:06.309 with money, with foreign agents, with lying. 47:07.811 --> 47:09.953 And I don't think it should be allowed. 47:09.973 --> 47:13.376 I don't think we should allow our government to lie to us. 47:13.456 --> 47:31.450 I don't think it should be permitted under national security reasons, especially if those national security reasons are based on ghost stories that were told in the early 50s and late 60s about genetic engineering or about living forever or about bioterrorism. 47:33.513 --> 47:46.701 And there is no explanation for why this should have been retired 15 years ago on a boat somewhere is still talking to us, being shown to us, more importantly, being sprayed all over social media. 47:46.721 --> 47:48.062 There's no excuse for it. 47:50.083 --> 47:51.264 It would be like if the U.S. 47:51.324 --> 47:54.466 government had spent money to distribute COVID tests. 47:54.926 --> 47:55.126 Oh, oh! 47:59.815 --> 48:03.063 I have no responsibility for the current pandemic. 48:03.745 --> 48:04.948 That's the whole point, right? 48:06.425 --> 48:08.306 You gotta understand why it's free. 48:08.406 --> 48:10.127 Why is this message free? 48:10.208 --> 48:13.450 Why does it seem like everybody agrees that this is the argument? 48:13.970 --> 48:19.974 Why is it so seamless how these people show up with the same sort of things, you know? 48:20.374 --> 48:34.864 And then the PBS NewsHour can just summarize across all the stages that right now the trend across rock music is actually everybody to use a guitar with big pointy sides and I don't know, they throw their picks in the middle of 48:36.845 --> 48:59.804 The show out to the audience and everybody screams, but I guess you know Crowdsurfing is a thing that isn't cool anymore at any of these stages And so they just all agree on this Lollapalooza of liars to talk about what's going on and across stages There's a sort of pattern or agreement, you know that on the bluegrass stage They all agree that the heavy metal sucks all the way over there and thank goodness. 48:59.844 --> 49:02.106 We can't hear them in that Canyon, but 49:03.513 --> 49:09.258 On the heavy metal side, they're all very complimentary because we wouldn't have the finger picking without the bluegrass. 49:09.318 --> 49:22.149 And so there's this kind of weird thing that goes along with the antagonism where it's like, hey, wait a minute, maybe I should check out the heavy metal because if the bluegrass people say it sucks, but the heavy metal people are respecting the bluegrass. 49:22.610 --> 49:29.156 And so you get people to move between stages and they think that they're moving between stages because it's what people say. 49:29.976 --> 49:32.237 And it's what things that they hear. 49:32.277 --> 49:39.978 But in reality, all of the artists on all the stages are scripted to say stuff that'll make you curious about what that person said. 49:40.018 --> 49:43.439 And more importantly, during set break, you're going to be able to hear them. 49:43.799 --> 49:50.100 Maybe even during set break, you're going to get a screenshot from another stage and you're going to find out what's on that. 49:50.200 --> 49:58.662 And so that's not that dissimilar to the PBS News Hour showing you or your friends or your family what they would never otherwise see on social media. 49:59.082 --> 50:00.963 because their social media doesn't have it. 50:02.184 --> 50:06.647 And so that's the role that mainstream media plays. 50:06.707 --> 50:11.450 That's the role that the late night talk shows play. 50:12.191 --> 50:21.597 Is this bridge or this, you know, illusion of consensus can be solidified on another level where first you have the interactive layer where, 50:22.057 --> 50:36.906 all of us get to tweet at our favorite people, and we get our likes, and we get our retweets, or we get our, you know, thumbs ups, or we get our, you know, shares, or whatever the hell it is on Instagram, and then above them are the people that are actually performing the script. 50:37.967 --> 50:48.994 And it is from this nearly endless list of people auditioning to get featured on the summaries, and the summaries can be Tucker Carlson, 50:50.126 --> 51:00.032 Summaries could be Kim Iverson on Rumble, the summaries could be PBS News Hour, Fox News, you know, CBS Sunday Morning, all this stuff. 51:01.733 --> 51:11.919 And the trick to see here is that social media has been moved up in the control levels because social media is starting to become ubiquitous because we all use our phones. 51:13.460 --> 51:14.901 And phones are everywhere now. 51:15.801 --> 51:18.403 And so it's not TV anymore that you need to control. 51:20.458 --> 51:26.461 In fact, TV is a delayed message sometimes, really delayed message. 51:26.501 --> 51:28.282 You know, old TV lasts forever. 51:28.922 --> 51:32.865 Social media is now and it's ever changing. 51:33.745 --> 51:35.406 You're ever seeking the latest. 51:36.186 --> 51:40.448 And it's that timeframe that will enslave our children. 51:41.609 --> 51:43.170 We need to come up with a plan. 51:44.269 --> 51:55.200 and a way to be on the same page and on the same plan as our children, the same vision for our country, the same vision for our local communities as our children have. 51:56.021 --> 52:17.122 That's the role that high schools play, and high school sports play, and nightclubs play, and bars play, and shooting clubs play, is this idea that we can get our family and friends on a multi-generational shared plan and a shared vision of where this country and where our communities are going. 52:17.542 --> 52:19.604 And these people have no idea 52:20.578 --> 52:22.741 that their script is dangerous to that. 52:22.761 --> 52:28.368 They have apparently no idea that social media is absolutely the antithesis of that. 52:29.229 --> 52:30.751 That's what I find so remarkable. 52:32.353 --> 52:34.857 In the Oval Office, that's just not how this works. 52:35.805 --> 52:46.811 Others celebrated the move to take Kimmel off the air. 52:48.132 --> 52:55.476 And earlier today, FCC Chair Parr warned more federal action could be coming. 52:55.776 --> 52:58.077 But, yes, I don't think this is the last shoe to drop. 52:58.397 --> 53:01.439 This is a massive shift that's taking place in the media ecosystem. 53:01.459 --> 53:03.460 And I think the consequences are going to continue to flow. 53:03.740 --> 53:09.706 Sinclair Broadcasting says, this Friday, it will replace Kimmel's show with a tribute to Charlie Kirk. 53:11.394 --> 53:16.715 For the record, we asked FCC Chairman Brendan Carr for an interview, and his office did not respond. 53:17.275 --> 53:19.596 For more, we turn now to Dylan Byers. 53:19.776 --> 53:22.516 He is senior media correspondent at PUC. 53:22.996 --> 53:24.457 Dylan Byers, thank you so much. 53:25.397 --> 53:30.738 Help us understand what... Of course, PUC is an Internet news source, probably with podcasts. 53:30.758 --> 53:36.539 So it's, again, the acquiescence to that is kind of, you can see the information pyramid here. 53:36.999 --> 53:40.880 Because remember, the bureaucracy, the 53:42.554 --> 53:46.499 Politicians, they're not watching 50 podcasts. 53:46.640 --> 53:48.482 They're paying for those. 53:50.104 --> 53:51.907 They're watching to see what gets here. 53:53.489 --> 53:58.216 What has been the reaction in the media world to Kimmel getting pulled off the air? 54:01.107 --> 54:02.428 Well, it's been rather overwhelming. 54:02.668 --> 54:15.919 I mean, I think there's a pretty broad consensus here, and certainly my own reporting and the reporting of others bears this out, that this was a decision that Disney CEO Bob Iger made due to the pressure from the FCC. 54:16.520 --> 54:19.362 The remarks that you referenced that Kimmel made came on a Monday night. 54:19.702 --> 54:23.025 There was no move to take Jimmy Kimmel off the air by Disney. 54:23.735 --> 54:25.176 for his show the following night. 54:25.736 --> 54:44.029 But after the chairman Carr went out and- So we're supposed to believe that this multinational billion dollar corporation called Disney doesn't have lawyers that understand what free speech is in America and whether or not their license of ABC would be in danger based on what he says. 54:44.089 --> 54:44.969 They have no lawyers. 54:45.009 --> 54:46.090 They can't figure that out. 54:46.530 --> 54:53.655 And since the FCC chairman said something like that, they're just going to back down because Disney has no lawyers, apparently. 54:53.695 --> 54:53.771 you 54:54.815 --> 55:04.762 gave an interview and suggested that he would put pressure on ABC after Nextar decided that it would preempt Kimmel's show on its owned and operated stations. 55:05.302 --> 55:08.604 Then Disney made the move to preempt Jimmy Kimmel's show. 55:08.824 --> 55:11.406 And look, you mentioned it there. 55:11.446 --> 55:17.090 So it really is supposed to feel like this group of people and then that group of people. 55:17.530 --> 55:24.615 And so then this consensus is kind of forming and it's like an overwhelming group of people that has decided to do it. 55:26.676 --> 55:27.916 And that's just ridiculous. 55:27.976 --> 55:29.176 It's like two phone calls. 55:29.757 --> 55:32.597 And then now they're telling a story that they're told to tell. 55:32.657 --> 55:37.179 These people can't possibly have all these little, these, I mean, it's just ridiculous. 55:37.239 --> 55:39.499 It's preposterous what's happening here. 55:39.880 --> 55:50.463 Package, there was some precedent for this with Paramount's decision to cancel Colbert, which was justified by the fact that Colbert was losing a significant amount of money for the network. 55:50.523 --> 55:52.523 And so there's some ambiguity around this decision. 55:52.563 --> 55:54.444 There doesn't seem to be any of that ambiguity 55:55.126 --> 56:10.894 Here, this is pretty clearly a decision that Disney came to in light of that FCC pressure, in light of that next star pressure, perhaps also because they need regulatory approval for another deal that Disney is seeking to acquire Fubo. 56:12.971 --> 56:19.634 This, look, the FCC certainly has the power to renew licenses, to revoke licenses. 56:19.954 --> 56:22.255 It does not have the power to censor content. 56:22.275 --> 56:30.798 And what we are seeing here is a sort of indirect, albeit pretty brazen attempt to influence the programming on ABC television. 56:31.596 --> 56:35.201 Earlier today, we spoke with a constitutional scholar, Ilya Sloman. 56:35.241 --> 56:40.808 He's a professor of law at George Mason University and also at the libertarian think tank, the Cato Institute. 56:41.228 --> 56:44.312 Here's what he had to say about Trump and the FCC's actions. 56:46.556 --> 56:51.822 Trump is definitely abusing the power of the FCC, whatever other authority it might legitimately have. 56:52.162 --> 57:02.173 It does not have the power to force stations to take people off the air merely because they have views the president objects to, and it definitely is a violation of the First Amendment. 57:02.514 --> 57:07.960 If there's anything that violates the First Amendment, it's government pressure and coercion to censor political speech. 57:09.175 --> 57:12.757 Now, that is something that FCC Chairman Brendan Carr used to believe. 57:12.797 --> 57:20.180 There are multiple statements where he is echoing that same idea, that it is not the FCC's job to police speech. 57:20.820 --> 57:25.562 How has he responded today as to how he has had this reversal of opinion? 57:27.984 --> 57:40.688 Well, look, I don't want to editorialize here, but I would say if you're looking for intellectual consistency here among many officials in this administration, you'd be hard pressed to find it. 57:41.449 --> 57:53.733 Look, by going out and giving an interview and just suggesting that you can do this the easy way or the hard way, at the end of the day, I suppose you can technically say it was Disney's decision. 57:53.813 --> 57:54.473 I didn't do it. 57:55.123 --> 58:11.912 But that sort of reeks of sort of mafia-level tactics, of sort of veiled threats and coercion that Disney, by virtue of the position it's in and by virtue of the FCC's leverage here, that it was willing to, frankly, capitulate to. 58:12.753 --> 58:18.376 The MAGA world, the president himself and all of his supporters have celebrated this move. 58:18.436 --> 58:20.737 Now, again, what we're supposed to believe is that 58:22.023 --> 58:35.670 multi-million dollar corporations, maybe even billion dollar media corporations, flinch at the FCC chairman of the Trump administration. 58:35.710 --> 58:39.052 So remember, the Trump administration is a criminal administration. 58:39.072 --> 58:40.473 They're completely incompetent. 58:40.493 --> 58:42.514 They don't know what they're doing. 58:42.574 --> 58:43.894 They're breaking the law. 58:43.955 --> 58:48.397 They're using the government as a weapon and it's all criminal. 58:50.202 --> 58:57.329 but these huge corporations that have lawyers, you know, like lots of them and can afford to have lawyers. 58:57.409 --> 59:03.655 And how many lawyers would you really need at a table to sit down and decide whether they could win the lawsuit or not? 59:04.276 --> 59:11.903 And how much money does Disney have in order to popularize the lawsuit that Disney's being stomped on by the US government? 59:12.323 --> 59:13.525 And what a great way 59:14.145 --> 59:32.604 to make Trump put his money where his mouth is but instead PBS NewsHour is telling us that the Trump administration is so scary that all they have to do is put their FCC chairman and then put Trump in front of a camera and have him say some tough stuff and man all these media moguls will just bend like a reed 59:34.542 --> 59:35.963 It's just ridiculous. 59:36.023 --> 59:37.483 It's such a dumb story. 59:37.943 --> 59:43.986 Saying that this was a consequence of his actions, of Kimmel's actions. 59:44.326 --> 59:45.627 What else have they been arguing? 59:46.487 --> 01:00:02.174 I think this is a great- Disney's worth $204 billion, but they can't afford a lawyer that could decide what a joke that is, what a veiled and pointless threat that is, and how amazingly simple it would be to bring down 01:00:02.694 --> 01:00:10.858 the Trump administration with this incredible overreach in both verbiage and threat, just call him out! 01:00:12.179 --> 01:00:13.020 But they don't. 01:00:13.560 --> 01:00:14.780 Why don't they call him out? 01:00:15.621 --> 01:00:21.284 Because... EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME SCRIPT! 01:00:25.986 --> 01:00:27.067 ...thing that has happened. 01:00:29.673 --> 01:00:43.264 Well, look, I think there's been a longstanding feeling among the right, certainly among Trump supporters, that media, generally speaking, what we usually refer to as mainstream media, has been bias. 01:00:43.624 --> 01:00:50.669 And that if you believe that broadcast networks should be sort of servicing the American people, 01:00:51.750 --> 01:00:54.211 then that sort of bias is a bad thing. 01:00:54.271 --> 01:01:00.914 And I think they would view the actions against Colbert or against Kimmel as progress in that regard. 01:01:00.974 --> 01:01:10.898 I think what I would say, and I think what many folks across the political spectrum have pointed out over the course of the last 24 hours... See, that's the problem, is that it's not like that. 01:01:10.958 --> 01:01:12.478 It's a very simple issue. 01:01:12.538 --> 01:01:14.839 You just have to teach people what the issue is. 01:01:14.859 --> 01:01:16.140 It's free speech. 01:01:16.220 --> 01:01:18.401 The answer to free speech is more free speech. 01:01:19.461 --> 01:01:22.405 and private platforms are not free speech. 01:01:23.526 --> 01:01:35.240 The consequences of your free speech could be professional and private, and social media makes that more complicated, but not any less 01:01:36.141 --> 01:01:40.782 true that free speech is only cured by more free speech. 01:01:40.842 --> 01:01:46.804 It's just a question of whether or not you're dealing with, yeah. 01:01:46.904 --> 01:01:48.004 This is crazy, man. 01:01:48.024 --> 01:01:49.485 We're really going into a dystopia. 01:01:49.505 --> 01:01:58.727 What is happening now to, say, ABC to Jimmy Kimmel, is the kind of power and coercion that a future Democratic president 01:01:59.321 --> 01:02:02.842 could try to wield against conservative critics. 01:02:03.363 --> 01:02:05.564 So this does not set a good precedent. 01:02:05.604 --> 01:02:24.191 At the end of the day, one thing that I think we can all agree we all value here is living in a society where people are able to go out and make jokes and state political opinions without fear of retribution from their employer because their employer has a deal pending approval 01:02:25.730 --> 01:02:26.630 by the federal government. 01:02:27.331 --> 01:02:37.480 And I would just say that anyone celebrating this move now... The puppets in a puppet show are not actually hitting each other. 01:02:38.861 --> 01:02:41.243 That is freaking brilliant. 01:02:41.484 --> 01:02:43.946 That is the... I could end the show right there. 01:02:44.506 --> 01:02:47.849 Puppets in a puppet show are not actually hitting each other. 01:02:48.109 --> 01:02:49.130 Thank you very much. 01:02:49.411 --> 01:02:50.632 That might be a t-shirt. 01:02:50.772 --> 01:02:51.092 Wow. 01:02:51.392 --> 01:02:51.953 Well done. 01:02:53.433 --> 01:02:59.636 We're probably going to rethink that in future administrations if future administrations try to wield that power, too. 01:02:59.656 --> 01:03:00.776 All right. 01:03:00.816 --> 01:03:02.377 That is Dylan Byers at PUC. 01:03:02.657 --> 01:03:04.058 Dylan, thank you so much for your time. 01:03:05.979 --> 01:03:06.279 Thank you. 01:03:10.731 --> 01:03:17.397 have been tariffs, more than 20 media defamation lawsuits since he launched his presidential campaign. 01:03:17.437 --> 01:03:20.780 You see, so it's all making social media relevant. 01:03:21.421 --> 01:03:22.722 I find it very interesting. 01:03:22.802 --> 01:03:27.126 I just think that the answer is just you got to come to terms with the fact that 01:03:27.706 --> 01:03:31.128 Up until now, America has been trapped in a national security theater. 01:03:31.688 --> 01:03:50.077 The extent to which other populations in the free-speaking English Western world who also actively use social media, the extent to which they have been trapped by our own theater, I don't really know because I don't live in Germany or the Netherlands or anything like that, but I do know 01:03:50.959 --> 01:04:00.235 that in order to make the illusion of consensus seem to have a significant global part or global portion, 01:04:01.501 --> 01:04:21.785 They have recruited actors from around the English-speaking world, including in the UK and Australia and New Zealand, South Africa, who have been active on social media, very specifically on X and on Substack, the new platforms that PBS NewsHour is very willing to promote. 01:04:22.706 --> 01:04:33.195 And they were active on the conservative side, behind the health freedom movement, behind this fake skepticism of the COVID narrative, which has resulted in nothing, right? 01:04:33.235 --> 01:04:44.184 Because it's very much like, as Mark pointed out in his shows the last couple of days, the 9-11 had two basically safe narratives to talk about on TV. 01:04:44.264 --> 01:04:47.708 Maybe it was some kind of, I don't know, slip up. 01:04:48.808 --> 01:05:03.599 where the terrorists got through and we weren't aware that they got through because you know there was a there was a exercise going on that day and so there was a stand-down order and it got confused and so that allowed these terrorists to get through. 01:05:03.619 --> 01:05:14.868 The other alternative was is that somehow or another maybe somebody was behind those terrorists maybe even with some part of the American security state you know that needed a new Pearl Harbor 01:05:15.428 --> 01:05:22.370 let the terrorists do it or facilitated them, much like the original bombing of the World Trade Center back in 1992. 01:05:22.911 --> 01:05:27.712 So those two narratives are very, very safe, right? 01:05:27.752 --> 01:05:36.335 Those two narratives are narratives that only came after several years, it seems in my recollection of 01:05:36.935 --> 01:05:53.211 a stewing about it being a completely staged event in the background on the internet, but never on TV, never in movies, and no one of report ever got to the stage where they were actually willing to question the physics of the building. 01:05:53.892 --> 01:05:55.173 That's the remarkable thing. 01:05:56.328 --> 01:06:02.672 Building 7 remains a ghost in the mainstream 9-11 narrative. 01:06:02.853 --> 01:06:06.455 And you can't get a rally in Washington, D.C. 01:06:06.495 --> 01:06:09.697 to talk about any alternative unless it involves space lasers. 01:06:09.757 --> 01:06:21.565 And that's again, because this is the same continuous, ever-evolving, ever-edited script that has its roots all the way back to 9-11. 01:06:23.942 --> 01:06:28.784 because America has been governed by a national security theater since before then. 01:06:28.844 --> 01:06:41.488 It's just that the tentacles of the national security theater, the number of stages available, the number of rock bands that are out there, the number of vendors, 01:06:42.771 --> 01:06:55.778 of this information has increased exponentially by design, social media being that military theater that we are now trapped in, complete with actors on scripts that complement one another. 01:07:11.035 --> 01:07:11.375 Ha ha! 01:07:11.855 --> 01:07:15.657 Zookeeper, Zookeeper, those two puppets are killing each other! 01:07:26.062 --> 01:07:31.604 Astronomers from Tacoma to Vladivostok have just reported an ionic disturbance in the vicinity of the Van Allen Belt. 01:07:31.805 --> 01:07:34.766 Scientists are recommending that all necessary precautions be taken. 01:07:35.586 --> 01:07:36.967 Hey kid, what did I know? 01:08:05.011 --> 01:08:07.452 Fellas, where you going at this hour? 01:08:08.052 --> 01:08:09.993 Hey, don't scratch up them heads. 01:08:10.773 --> 01:08:11.793 Good morning, everybody. 01:08:11.873 --> 01:08:16.255 Panic is gripping Springfield as giant advertising mascots rampage through the city. 01:08:18.856 --> 01:08:21.637 Listen carefully to the question that he asks here. 01:08:22.897 --> 01:08:27.819 Perhaps it's part of some daring new ad campaign, but what new product could justify such carnage? 01:08:28.139 --> 01:08:28.800 A cleanser? 01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:32.641 A fat-free fudge cake that doesn't let you down in the flavor department like so many others? 01:08:35.958 --> 01:08:42.606 What product would justify, what product would justify such advertising? 01:08:43.026 --> 01:08:51.816 I think if you took this wonderful analogy but you said to yourself that social media is destroying our societies 01:08:53.912 --> 01:09:08.642 What would justify the rollout and the free reign that we have given social media over our brains, over our news, over our information, over our internet, over our children? 01:09:09.222 --> 01:09:11.504 What could possibly justify it? 01:09:12.204 --> 01:09:13.045 What product? 01:09:15.286 --> 01:09:17.488 That's the question you need to ask yourself. 01:09:17.808 --> 01:09:23.392 Even though this is an old cartoon, it is spot on if you can see the narrative, if you can see the metaphor. 01:09:26.187 --> 01:09:27.208 No! 01:09:38.514 --> 01:09:40.816 With ice and flavor, please. 01:09:42.136 --> 01:09:43.357 Ah, they're not so tough. 01:09:43.877 --> 01:09:45.298 Uh, Chief, that wasn't a monster. 01:09:45.338 --> 01:09:47.439 That was the captain of the high school basketball team. 01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:50.221 Uh, yeah, well, yeah, he was turning into a monster, though. 01:09:54.042 --> 01:09:54.442 Hello? 01:09:54.722 --> 01:09:55.042 Yes? 01:09:55.582 --> 01:10:00.943 Oh, uh, if you're looking for that big donut of yours, um, Flanders has it. 01:10:01.303 --> 01:10:02.444 Just smashed open his house. 01:10:03.524 --> 01:10:04.184 He came to life. 01:10:05.004 --> 01:10:05.544 Good for him. 01:10:14.246 --> 01:10:15.046 Help me, Lord! 01:10:15.586 --> 01:10:17.686 I told you, Flanders has it! 01:10:18.487 --> 01:10:18.827 Or Moe. 01:10:19.547 --> 01:10:20.147 Go kill Moe. 01:10:21.533 --> 01:10:22.893 Just give him the donut. 01:10:23.114 --> 01:10:25.394 Once he has it, that will be the end of all this horror. 01:10:25.814 --> 01:10:28.875 Well, okay, if it'll end horror. 01:10:31.496 --> 01:10:45.801 So I have to warn you, the sound effect that's about to come up here is really brutal, but if you haven't seen it, The Simpsons is a magnificent TV show that at least for the first 15 seasons or so was just a real 01:10:47.003 --> 01:10:51.288 A real frank commentary on a lot of things in American society and an awesome show. 01:10:52.810 --> 01:10:59.919 And there's a sound effect coming up that as a dog lover, every time I hear it, it bothers me. 01:10:59.939 --> 01:11:05.025 And at the same time, I can laugh because again, this is a Halloween episode, so it's very dark. 01:11:05.405 --> 01:11:06.407 People die like that. 01:11:06.948 --> 01:11:18.929 basketball player did and people talk about killing people like Homer just did but it's a whole Halloween episode so just understand that the satire here is pretty deke how dark but anyway here goes the the donut guy again 01:11:32.366 --> 01:11:34.712 Don't you ever get tired of being wrong all the time? 01:11:35.213 --> 01:11:38.441 These monsters are destroying everything and everyone we hold dear. 01:11:39.243 --> 01:11:40.546 And your kids should have jackets on. 01:11:40.867 --> 01:11:41.849 Did you get that joke? 01:11:43.035 --> 01:11:46.557 These monsters are destroying everything that we hold dear. 01:11:47.178 --> 01:11:48.839 And you kids should have jackets on. 01:11:49.179 --> 01:11:52.481 That's kind of like how the health freedom movement does it. 01:11:52.841 --> 01:11:56.464 The vaccines are poisoning thousands and killing thousands of kids. 01:11:56.804 --> 01:11:59.766 We don't know how many kids are dying of vaccines every year. 01:12:00.146 --> 01:12:04.389 And oh yeah, we should get the dye out of the food that we know we shouldn't eat anyway. 01:12:05.870 --> 01:12:10.733 We should use better oil to fry the things that we shouldn't eat anyway. 01:12:13.783 --> 01:12:17.806 You know, the kids on screens for four years because pandemic is real thing. 01:12:19.648 --> 01:12:23.191 None of those things, it's just the priorities don't make any sense anymore. 01:12:23.231 --> 01:12:24.752 That's kind of a priority joke. 01:12:27.214 --> 01:12:28.696 Hey, what's that in his footprint? 01:12:32.539 --> 01:12:33.079 Hmm. 01:12:34.541 --> 01:12:39.004 If your advertising agency created all those giant characters, you must know how to stop them. 01:12:39.665 --> 01:12:41.927 Well, sir, advertising is a funny thing. 01:12:42.575 --> 01:12:46.016 If people stop paying attention to it, pretty soon it goes away. 01:12:46.296 --> 01:12:48.076 Like that old woman who couldn't find the beef? 01:12:48.196 --> 01:12:48.696 Exactly. 01:12:49.117 --> 01:12:52.697 If you stop paying attention to the monsters, they'll lose their powers. 01:12:52.797 --> 01:12:54.178 But people can't help looking at them. 01:12:54.218 --> 01:12:55.278 They're wrecking the town. 01:12:57.619 --> 01:12:59.679 You know, maybe a jingle would help. 01:12:59.699 --> 01:13:03.640 Don't watch the... Don't watch the... 01:13:04.625 --> 01:13:23.506 Monsterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 01:13:26.786 --> 01:13:27.586 Just don't look! 01:13:27.987 --> 01:13:31.088 Just don't look! 01:13:31.769 --> 01:13:32.629 Just don't look! 01:13:33.009 --> 01:13:33.830 Just don't look! 01:13:34.370 --> 01:13:37.031 It worked! 01:13:37.371 --> 01:13:46.116 They're all dead! 01:13:46.316 --> 01:13:47.897 Well, except for Chubbsy Upsy over there. 01:13:52.330 --> 01:13:52.931 Rinku. 01:13:53.271 --> 01:13:54.292 Homer, stop looking! 01:13:54.412 --> 01:13:56.294 Don't make us poke your eyes out, Dad. 01:13:56.794 --> 01:13:56.974 Oh. 01:14:02.139 --> 01:14:02.840 Here comes something. 01:14:03.160 --> 01:14:04.121 Remember the story. 01:14:04.341 --> 01:14:06.503 We're newlyweds on our way to Earth Capital. 01:14:08.405 --> 01:14:09.306 Oh, Shazbot. 01:14:09.346 --> 01:14:10.247 What time is it? 01:14:10.327 --> 01:14:11.068 Game time! 01:14:11.168 --> 01:14:11.268 Woo! 01:14:16.201 --> 01:14:19.043 Yes, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the show. 01:14:19.263 --> 01:14:23.945 Beware, we are being governed by scripted actors for a very, very long time. 01:14:23.985 --> 01:14:27.748 People were put in place, and these people are not real. 01:14:27.808 --> 01:14:29.208 They are characters on the stage. 01:14:29.248 --> 01:14:30.409 They are all part of the show. 01:14:30.969 --> 01:14:39.674 You might have been interacting with some of those people on the bottom or maybe in the second row, maybe even the third row, but that doesn't mean that you were actually interacting with anyone. 01:14:39.714 --> 01:14:44.617 In fact, that's the many layered, many, many, many layered 01:14:46.679 --> 01:14:50.802 Lollapalooza of liars, if you will, that we are dealing with right now. 01:14:51.222 --> 01:15:00.969 Fifth Generation Warfare also, of course, extends to all of these health freedom movements and non-profit organizations that have sprung up as a result of this Fifth Generation Warfare. 01:15:01.409 --> 01:15:02.370 That's how they do it. 01:15:02.530 --> 01:15:06.533 And not everybody, in fact, most people probably don't understand what's going on. 01:15:07.033 --> 01:15:11.637 But only the people with the controls and with the access to the website or whatever 01:15:12.257 --> 01:15:13.697 need to be in on the gag. 01:15:14.378 --> 01:15:15.498 It's about diluting. 01:15:16.038 --> 01:15:17.818 It's about absorbing. 01:15:18.558 --> 01:15:20.619 That's why Kevin McKernan exists. 01:15:21.499 --> 01:15:31.161 There is no other way to explain why the research and development director of the Human Genome Project was behind Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:15:31.201 --> 01:15:34.062 There's no other way to explain how Merrill Nass 01:15:34.682 --> 01:15:42.545 and Robert Malone were at his presidential announcement and hugged without words in front of the stage before the announcement. 01:15:42.885 --> 01:15:52.629 There's no other way to explain it other than these people being one of several national security actors behind the health freedom movement who fooled America and much of the world 01:15:53.349 --> 01:15:55.491 using the help of social media. 01:15:55.931 --> 01:16:00.194 So this is what a national security theater looks like in 2025. 01:16:00.355 --> 01:16:01.816 It is podcasts. 01:16:01.916 --> 01:16:08.441 It is late night talk shows that summarize podcasts or claim to take a sample of things. 01:16:08.661 --> 01:16:10.622 And these people are not real actors. 01:16:10.702 --> 01:16:16.387 Watch Donald Trump whisper into the ear of Elon Musk saying, don't screw it up. 01:16:17.509 --> 01:16:25.234 Watch him whisper into Elon Musk's ear and watch how the jumping moron changes his attitude after this whisper. 01:16:26.363 --> 01:16:28.864 Oh, oh, oh, I better take this pretty seriously. 01:16:29.325 --> 01:16:29.625 I see. 01:16:30.545 --> 01:16:31.305 Is it going to be okay? 01:16:31.366 --> 01:16:32.026 Is he mad at me? 01:16:32.486 --> 01:16:33.867 Oh, that's what I needed. 01:16:33.887 --> 01:16:34.167 Thanks. 01:16:34.667 --> 01:16:37.348 So this guy is the same kind of actor. 01:16:38.429 --> 01:16:40.910 And, you know, there are varying levels of read in. 01:16:41.010 --> 01:16:43.351 I think Donald Trump is actually very well read in. 01:16:43.391 --> 01:16:45.432 He's a good friend of Hillary Clinton. 01:16:45.452 --> 01:16:52.176 He's been probably aware of his impending performance ever since that he was in that debate. 01:16:53.136 --> 01:16:55.299 This lady, of course, is ridiculous. 01:16:56.020 --> 01:17:00.604 It's fraud on this scale that can only be explained by scripted national security actors. 01:17:01.245 --> 01:17:05.490 If you watch videos of this woman, there's no way to take her seriously. 01:17:05.970 --> 01:17:07.832 She has about as much 01:17:08.573 --> 01:17:12.516 you know, elder statesmanship experience as Barry Weiss. 01:17:12.737 --> 01:17:13.797 It's just kind of a joke. 01:17:14.218 --> 01:17:19.402 The only real carrying card that she has is that she's a surfer and she's been on Joe Rogan. 01:17:19.562 --> 01:17:21.584 I mean, it's a joke at this point. 01:17:21.724 --> 01:17:24.947 And that's what you see on this screen. 01:17:25.087 --> 01:17:36.677 And if it was possible for you to open your mind long enough to understand that these people are scripted actors, and I want you to listen very carefully to that script, scripted actors. 01:17:37.048 --> 01:17:37.768 I don't know, man. 01:17:37.968 --> 01:17:40.869 I favor authenticity over a lot of other values. 01:17:40.909 --> 01:17:44.551 That doesn't mean I'm not sometimes duplicitous, disingenuous and dishonest. 01:17:44.591 --> 01:17:45.231 Of course I am. 01:17:45.271 --> 01:17:47.712 I'm fallen and I fall into dishonesty frequently. 01:17:47.732 --> 01:17:49.712 But today... I don't know, man. 01:17:49.912 --> 01:17:52.813 I favor authenticity over a lot of other values. 01:17:52.853 --> 01:17:56.495 That doesn't mean I'm not sometimes duplicitous, disingenuous and dishonest. 01:17:56.535 --> 01:17:57.175 Of course I am. 01:17:57.215 --> 01:17:59.656 I'm fallen and I fall into dishonesty frequently. 01:17:59.676 --> 01:17:59.996 But today... 01:18:00.936 --> 01:18:01.658 I don't know, man. 01:18:01.858 --> 01:18:04.764 I favor authenticity over a lot of other values. 01:18:04.804 --> 01:18:08.452 That doesn't mean I'm not sometimes duplicitous, disingenuous, and dishonest. 01:18:08.492 --> 01:18:09.133 Of course I am. 01:18:09.153 --> 01:18:11.618 I'm fallen, and I fall into dishonesty frequently. 01:18:11.638 --> 01:18:11.959 But today... 01:18:13.931 --> 01:18:15.331 And so yeah, that's where we are. 01:18:15.351 --> 01:18:18.992 Intramuscular injection is indeed dumb, RNA cannot pandemic. 01:18:19.552 --> 01:18:27.874 Transfection is a crime and autism is a myth that all of these people have agreed to argue about on behalf of the national security state. 01:18:28.214 --> 01:18:38.177 And GigaOM Biological is part of the independent bright web, not part of the internet that's being used against you, but a free version of the internet where thought is being 01:18:39.317 --> 01:18:41.439 Crafted in real time, let's say it like that. 01:18:41.919 --> 01:18:42.960 I'm very happy to be here. 01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:46.302 I hope you're making the attempt to get off of social media. 01:18:46.322 --> 01:18:49.104 I'm just warning you, there's not much time left for me. 01:18:50.165 --> 01:18:57.931 I am still being an obnoxious person on X. I'm trying to call out these imposters for what they are. 01:18:59.172 --> 01:19:05.576 But soon I'm going to be off of X. And soon we will be only on the websites that we ourselves maintain. 01:19:06.677 --> 01:19:11.280 And we're gonna see what happens, because I think I gotta put my money where my mouth is. 01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:17.943 Ladies and gentlemen, autism spectrum disorder is a myth used to make sure that intramuscular injection is never questioned as a methodology. 01:19:18.383 --> 01:19:22.205 Virology is never questioned as a science, and public health is never questioned as a reason. 01:19:22.625 --> 01:19:31.150 One of the fantastic things in my favor is the idea that very few, if anyone, has ever been able to say it as succinctly as me. 01:19:31.630 --> 01:19:41.959 That's what makes Giga Home Biological very different from a lot of the people that you might see and follow who are actually on a national security script because none of them will tell you to get off of social media. 01:19:42.480 --> 01:19:50.006 They might tell you which particular social media account to follow or what social media platform is the most free but none of them will tell you that none of them are. 01:19:50.467 --> 01:19:57.333 None of them will explain why the cheese is free there and none of them will tell you that Elon Musk is a scripted fraud or that 01:19:57.873 --> 01:20:02.377 that Jeff Bezos is a scripted fraud or that Peter Thiel is just kind of a joke. 01:20:02.477 --> 01:20:19.010 No one's gonna actually say that to you because they're all on the same script and this is the biology that they have to ignore because this biology exposes them for the frauds that they are independent of their also paying homage to all of these fake, you know, ruling elite 01:20:19.730 --> 01:20:28.334 Just the whole idea that we've come to refer to a group of people on Earth as the ruling elite already shows you that we're almost enslaved already. 01:20:28.815 --> 01:20:30.075 And so we need to figure it out. 01:20:30.736 --> 01:20:32.637 We need to pull our collective heads out. 01:20:32.717 --> 01:20:33.857 That's for sure. 01:20:34.678 --> 01:20:37.399 That's for sure we need to pull our collective heads out. 01:20:37.579 --> 01:20:43.222 If there's one thing I know, that's what we need to do because the cheese is free for a reason on social media. 01:20:43.302 --> 01:20:46.564 Free for a reason is because it's a military weapon. 01:20:47.489 --> 01:20:54.473 They are actively using it against us, and they can actively use it against you in particular whenever they want to. 01:20:55.814 --> 01:20:56.654 Welcome to the show. 01:20:56.674 --> 01:21:01.337 It is Monday, so I guess you've started that week of hamster wheeling. 01:21:02.017 --> 01:21:04.898 And so I hope this is a pleasant surprise. 01:21:05.139 --> 01:21:06.719 1 minute and 20 into the show. 01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:09.161 Still got a good half hour for you here. 01:21:09.181 --> 01:21:16.545 I think I got a little bit over my skis with regard to how much I can accomplish, but I'm just going to try and see what I can do. 01:21:19.708 --> 01:21:23.952 Again fifth generation warfare is not just the health freedom movement, but it's everything and that's the 01:21:25.296 --> 01:21:28.158 Sounds like a big gross-over generalization, but it's really not. 01:21:28.238 --> 01:21:28.898 It's really not. 01:21:29.598 --> 01:21:39.724 Social media gives us the illusion that we can interact with a script and interact with a group of people on a sitcom or on a Star Trek episode, but that's not how social media works. 01:21:40.304 --> 01:21:53.692 Social media is the Star Trek episode that makes us believe that politics is real, that international relations are real, that the scandals around Donald Trump are real, and all of these people are in on it. 01:21:54.392 --> 01:22:01.001 I know it sounds nuts, but a lot of these people on this screen have had long-term relationships with one another. 01:22:01.021 --> 01:22:09.912 And the relationships belie a level of trust that can't exist with money alone. 01:22:10.953 --> 01:22:15.676 I thought this was an interesting thing to play at the beginning of the stream. 01:22:15.736 --> 01:22:20.678 I hope it's all very obvious to you that it's not advertising that we're worried about here. 01:22:20.698 --> 01:22:21.519 It's social media. 01:22:21.559 --> 01:22:30.503 Why are we allowing social media and these podcasters to undermine our democracy, to undermine our ability to understand what's going on? 01:22:30.563 --> 01:22:31.644 Why are we allowing that? 01:22:32.424 --> 01:22:34.685 That's really the question in my mind. 01:22:36.306 --> 01:22:47.321 I think what's cool about Mark Hulak's work, and I'm going to claim just a tiny little bit of credit here because I did start the wheels turning with Mark a few weeks ago. 01:22:47.802 --> 01:22:51.307 He's always been on Bannon, and he's always known lots of things that I didn't know. 01:22:53.449 --> 01:23:11.948 But we were talking one morning on the phone and I pointed out to him when we I think it was we were he was talking about Kathy Griffin and the head or maybe I said that Kathy Griffin was the one with the head and Then I said yeah, and then there was also Snoop Dogg who did this music video that had a gun with a flag that came out of it and 01:23:12.689 --> 01:23:30.716 And so I do think that the connection between those two was just a random search with terms based on that random conversation between him and I about where Trump derangement syndrome came from and whether it was more than just Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert scripted to drive people nuts. 01:23:30.756 --> 01:23:32.137 Was it also people on The View? 01:23:32.177 --> 01:23:36.038 It turns out that, of course, she's worked with a lot of these people for a long time. 01:23:36.078 --> 01:23:36.878 It goes way back. 01:23:38.919 --> 01:23:45.564 And the connections that Mark has uncovered from a Hollywood perspective is really remarkable. 01:23:46.524 --> 01:24:00.133 But again, remember just for very rudimentary purposes, given the fact that this screen has been something that I've been using for a few weeks now at least, why I chose a lot of these people. 01:24:02.455 --> 01:24:07.498 Charlie Kirk was on this screen for a few weeks before the shooting actually happened. 01:24:08.038 --> 01:24:11.841 I mean, Snoop Dogg, all this, this composition was all done for a while now. 01:24:11.901 --> 01:24:18.665 And the reason why is because there are some connections here between Weinstein and Bannon. 01:24:20.956 --> 01:24:32.905 Like all of these weird connections that go back too far and for too long to too big of piles of money, too large of corporations with too much influence and output to be by chance. 01:24:33.065 --> 01:24:44.734 Again, because you do not become the CEO of a $150 million film company for nothing just because somebody decides that you're a pretty good guy. 01:24:44.794 --> 01:24:46.616 I like your conversation at the water. 01:24:47.076 --> 01:24:50.018 You know, by the way, we're looking for somebody to run this big, 01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:52.842 That's not how this happens. 01:24:54.104 --> 01:24:56.287 That's not how an aircraft carrier works. 01:24:56.307 --> 01:24:56.848 Hey, dude. 01:24:57.389 --> 01:24:59.151 Hey, you over there with the brown shoes. 01:24:59.752 --> 01:25:00.674 Why don't you come over here? 01:25:00.714 --> 01:25:01.635 I got a job for you. 01:25:01.695 --> 01:25:04.840 That's not how an aircraft carrier is run. 01:25:07.731 --> 01:25:25.426 And you need to see the American security apparatus as an aircraft carrier that includes the entire Lollapalooza of liars on social media and that visit mainstream media and represent the functioning behemoth. 01:25:27.253 --> 01:25:31.074 And so just like an aircraft carrier, everybody has their job. 01:25:31.114 --> 01:25:34.435 And when you sign up to be on an aircraft carrier, you accept that. 01:25:35.195 --> 01:25:44.538 If you sign up to work on a submarine, you don't think that you're going to get on the submarine and then be able to bitch about what you're doing or complain about what you have to do or the schedule that you're given. 01:25:47.439 --> 01:26:07.458 Just like the military because it was basically a military operation these people don't question the schedule or the script that they are given when their numbers called it's called and They go on stage and recite the lines that they are given as even if it's just handed to them right before the curtains open That's what you need to understand 01:26:08.447 --> 01:26:10.828 And Snoop Dogg signed up a long time ago. 01:26:11.249 --> 01:26:13.590 Kathy Griffin very willingly signed up. 01:26:13.610 --> 01:26:18.172 You have to understand that an actor would gladly sign up for that. 01:26:20.394 --> 01:26:32.100 If somebody came to an actor in Hollywood struggling and waiting tables and said, hey, we're looking for somebody with your build and your eyes and your hair and your voice to do a podcast. 01:26:32.160 --> 01:26:36.663 And since I'm the guy who produced Seinfeld, you never know where this will go. 01:26:39.025 --> 01:26:41.347 Hey, you know, you're trying to start an ad agency. 01:26:41.387 --> 01:26:43.068 Why don't you start a podcast, you know? 01:26:43.088 --> 01:26:48.592 I'm friends with Peter Thiel and I have a, you know, one up on this. 01:26:49.593 --> 01:26:50.653 You could get called up. 01:26:50.713 --> 01:26:51.834 It could be a really big thing. 01:26:51.894 --> 01:26:58.219 It's a really easy way to audition for better positions in the structure of things. 01:27:00.851 --> 01:27:03.411 So everybody's aware, you just have to get in. 01:27:03.431 --> 01:27:06.532 You gotta get your SAG card first, then you gotta be on set. 01:27:06.992 --> 01:27:08.692 You gotta get noticed, you know what I mean? 01:27:08.732 --> 01:27:10.513 And that's no different. 01:27:11.593 --> 01:27:21.715 Except the national security state has a little bit higher requirements and better and more stringent siphon or sieve for what they keep and don't keep. 01:27:22.255 --> 01:27:24.595 But essentially, these people have been put in place. 01:27:25.275 --> 01:27:28.116 Some of them have been groomed for years and years and years. 01:27:29.278 --> 01:27:32.740 You should see it that way because this is for all the marbles. 01:27:33.841 --> 01:27:41.085 You're not going to leave the 2,000 plus jobs necessary to make an aircraft carrier run efficiently. 01:27:41.105 --> 01:27:44.607 You're not going to leave those jobs to the first 2,000 applicants. 01:27:45.427 --> 01:27:51.491 And you're not turning those jobs over all the time or an aircraft carrier is never going to be projecting any power. 01:27:51.511 --> 01:27:53.252 Do you see what I'm trying to get at here? 01:27:53.272 --> 01:27:56.594 I hope this analogy is hitting home because this is the truth. 01:28:03.559 --> 01:28:05.360 Oh, I don't know what I needed to do there, sorry. 01:28:06.121 --> 01:28:07.482 That was just my music, I guess. 01:28:08.943 --> 01:28:11.284 So, these two guys go back to the Man Show. 01:28:11.364 --> 01:28:26.275 That's also something that Mark Hulak was able to find just because... All of these people are connected via Joe Rogan, via the Health Freedom Movement, or one way or another behind Robert F. Kennedy Jr., or some version of the Health Freedom Movement in another country around the world. 01:28:26.695 --> 01:28:28.036 And that's not by chance. 01:28:28.596 --> 01:28:32.339 The long connection that Mar has to this is not by chance. 01:28:34.042 --> 01:28:41.529 And so these other people could be handled by entirely different handlers and believe most of the things they're saying. 01:28:42.149 --> 01:28:53.019 But at the core is a group of people that doesn't take Donald Trump seriously because they know that Donald Trump is on the same team as Hillary Clinton was, whatever team that is. 01:28:54.244 --> 01:28:55.245 That's the trick here. 01:28:55.605 --> 01:28:57.607 That's the main trick to understand. 01:28:57.727 --> 01:29:03.331 Because they understand that truth, then they don't have to worry about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:29:03.391 --> 01:29:05.773 or Jay Bhattacharya or the vaccine schedule. 01:29:06.194 --> 01:29:11.278 They just have to improvise along the script they already understand. 01:29:12.113 --> 01:29:21.195 And that is that there is a show happening and the loud noises that are made over there, I'm supposed to pay attention to and complain about. 01:29:21.215 --> 01:29:25.096 And that's all that's necessary to participate in this theater. 01:29:25.576 --> 01:29:31.478 And once you have cleared the level of audition and you're given a little bit of a role in the script, 01:29:31.918 --> 01:29:43.348 Then the directors and the stage managers can shift stuff around as is necessary including move you into the front of stage or move you back of stage or take you out of the show completely. 01:29:43.388 --> 01:29:46.111 It doesn't matter because this is how it works. 01:29:52.290 --> 01:29:57.918 And so the health freedom movement is, you fell for it whether you think Joe Rogan is smart or not. 01:29:58.359 --> 01:30:00.883 You fell for it whether you think Joe Rogan is funny or not. 01:30:00.923 --> 01:30:03.787 You fell for it whether you think Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:30:03.847 --> 01:30:04.969 is a fraud or a hero. 01:30:04.989 --> 01:30:05.670 You fell for it. 01:30:06.647 --> 01:30:08.288 Please understand that. 01:30:08.728 --> 01:30:13.830 You're not absolved from any responsibility if you knew all along that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:30:13.870 --> 01:30:16.611 was just a brainworm victim and an idiot. 01:30:16.931 --> 01:30:32.558 You're not absolved of this if you understand that Russell Brand is an idiot and a fake and an actor because you still accept the left using these people to represent the conservative side of America. 01:30:32.598 --> 01:30:33.698 Do you see that problem? 01:30:34.198 --> 01:30:35.439 Do you see the problem there? 01:30:38.442 --> 01:30:56.919 If you know that these people are fake, then you have to condemn all of the other stuff on social media that uses these people to represent us, to represent a right or a conservative movement in America. 01:30:56.999 --> 01:31:03.344 All of these things only exist because the left in concert agrees that these people are it. 01:31:06.388 --> 01:31:17.408 when we know that that's not a real woman from Hawaii who's a Hindu and got on Joe Rogan and is now the Director of National Intelligence. 01:31:23.450 --> 01:31:46.762 We know, I know for sure that those guys over there are not real FDA commissioners or NIH directors or HHS secretaries because I've spoken at length with all of them and they are all vapid individuals that are only looking to stay away from saying anything of report, anything of substance because they knew all along they were being set up. 01:31:48.854 --> 01:31:49.935 This is just an actor. 01:31:50.275 --> 01:31:51.095 This is an actor. 01:31:51.316 --> 01:31:52.096 This is an actor. 01:31:52.316 --> 01:31:53.017 That's an actor. 01:31:53.357 --> 01:31:54.037 That's an actor. 01:31:54.377 --> 01:31:55.098 That's an actor. 01:31:55.538 --> 01:31:56.759 Lex Friedman is an actor. 01:31:57.099 --> 01:31:57.920 This is an actor. 01:31:58.080 --> 01:31:58.820 That's an actor. 01:31:59.401 --> 01:32:00.701 These are all actors. 01:32:00.781 --> 01:32:04.264 It's just a question of what level on which are they acting. 01:32:05.143 --> 01:32:06.964 What stage are they choosing to do? 01:32:07.625 --> 01:32:15.591 Just because you don't get a big stage on Rumble doesn't mean that they can't bring you on as an opening act or let you play a song with them. 01:32:15.951 --> 01:32:19.054 You know, like they do with old musicians that have crashed out. 01:32:19.094 --> 01:32:25.178 You might bring an old, you know, you could bring Jerry Garcia on to play one Grateful Dead song or something like that. 01:32:25.498 --> 01:32:32.244 And so all of that kind of shit is pulled with these people on the internet that makes them seem like something real happening. 01:32:32.984 --> 01:32:44.213 some kind of discussion is occurring where a real you know debate is occurring and that's all orchestrated national security bullshit and the only real 01:32:46.534 --> 01:32:56.805 One man show on the internet that's covering this besides me, I think, is, well, I don't know, Mark Kulak of Usatonic ITS and Joe Marshall. 01:32:56.885 --> 01:32:57.906 Basically, that's it. 01:32:58.607 --> 01:33:01.610 And I don't know of anyone who can say it like I can say it. 01:33:02.171 --> 01:33:03.612 So I'm very excited to be here. 01:33:03.632 --> 01:33:06.916 I'm very excited to have the support of you guys out there. 01:33:06.936 --> 01:33:08.958 I'm very happy with how PeerTube is working. 01:33:09.658 --> 01:33:17.241 We're going to advance that ball as much as we possibly can over the next couple months to set up a few independent peer tubes for a few other people. 01:33:17.661 --> 01:33:20.642 We're just looking to get all of the necessary legal stuff ready to go. 01:33:20.722 --> 01:33:24.984 Don't forget that we still say it better than anybody, intramuscular injection is a dumb idea from the late 1800s. 01:33:26.284 --> 01:33:28.747 Transfection of healthy humans was always a crime. 01:33:28.867 --> 01:33:31.910 RNA cannot pandemic and autism is a meaningless word by design. 01:33:32.831 --> 01:33:36.115 We are here by design because they saw this signal coming for a long time. 01:33:36.135 --> 01:33:38.998 It's an anticipated rise in all-cause mortality. 01:33:39.058 --> 01:33:41.301 Ladies and gentlemen, let me add a little sound effects there. 01:33:41.921 --> 01:33:52.896 And that anticipated rise in all-cause mortality is what they sculpted with Murder and Lies for a couple years and lied about it on TV with the help of all those people on the previous screen and much, much more. 01:33:53.317 --> 01:33:56.842 And that is because America is run by this false two-party theater. 01:33:57.262 --> 01:33:58.964 It's not even just one party. 01:33:59.935 --> 01:34:15.501 It is just one group of individuals, all of them rich and influential, tied to other large piles of money like corporations and non-profits that are all vying for control of power as the United States is bled dry. 01:34:15.921 --> 01:34:21.583 And anybody that's rising into clear view is not somebody that's also driving the frickin' boat. 01:34:23.308 --> 01:34:29.029 They're not putting the guy who's driving the aircraft carrier on podcasts. 01:34:29.849 --> 01:34:31.950 They're not putting the captain on podcasts. 01:34:31.990 --> 01:34:44.632 They're sending a very low-ranking officer from the communications department, at best, maybe the mess hall, to talk to the press. 01:34:45.472 --> 01:34:48.193 Because the aircraft carrier is still doing its job. 01:34:57.014 --> 01:35:11.239 And so I showed you the other day that this guy, for example, The Diary of a CEO podcast is a multi-million dollar, 50 man, 50 employee organization. 01:35:11.299 --> 01:35:15.740 So this is ruled by podcast actor and these people have been put in place. 01:35:16.120 --> 01:35:18.681 And if this guy, this Englishman, 01:35:19.241 --> 01:35:35.312 has 50 employees from a podcast, then I think you need to come to terms with the fact that the US military or the NATO military or whatever organization is behind this or organizations realized a long time ago that this is chump change. 01:35:35.732 --> 01:35:41.736 If it takes only 50 people to produce something like this, then we should produce a lot of some things like this. 01:35:41.936 --> 01:35:48.581 In other words, a Lollapalooza of liars, a very good rock bands, very good, you know, costumes, very good, 01:35:49.242 --> 01:35:51.221 Jams, very good bass lines. 01:35:52.671 --> 01:35:59.117 And all different ones, you know, hardcore rockers like this dude that swears a lot and takes his shirt off by the pool. 01:35:59.177 --> 01:36:09.566 Or somebody like Russell Brand that's got all kinds of nice necklaces and funny tattoos and stuff, you know, like a Hindu elephant on one arm and a crucifix on the other arm. 01:36:09.886 --> 01:36:13.129 Or this guy who will tell you all about Kevin McKernan being super smart. 01:36:13.169 --> 01:36:19.295 You know, the Human Genome Project Research and Development Director that's curiously behind the anti-vax movement. 01:36:20.015 --> 01:36:39.066 And nobody in American media seems to care about that one simple fact that there is a guy who actually was an employee of the Whitehead Institute, a colleague of Mark Lander, a long colleague of Francis Collins, directly behind as a scientific advisor to CHD throughout the pandemic. 01:36:39.106 --> 01:36:40.406 His name is Kevin McKernan. 01:36:40.827 --> 01:36:48.611 He's been on several podcasts, including a large podcast that is run by a guy by the name of Danny Jones, has a direct connections to Hulk Hogan. 01:36:51.018 --> 01:37:11.256 who is of course the guy that Peter Thiel gave lawyers to so that he could sue Gawker for having published a sex video of Hulk Hogan, but he was really trying to get back at Gawker because Gawker outed Peter Thiel as a gay man. 01:37:14.130 --> 01:37:28.879 And so this guy was on that Danny Jones podcast with Callie Means and Mary Talley Bowden, probably doing a fake argument between Callie Means to fool Mary Talley Bowden into believing that she was still part of a real health freedom movement. 01:37:29.279 --> 01:37:39.205 And a lot of the doctors that are involved simply aren't sophisticated enough from a scientific perspective to understand because they've been shielded by social media. 01:37:39.265 --> 01:37:42.467 They've been shielded by these other people from ever hearing from me. 01:37:43.817 --> 01:37:46.960 Mary Talley Bowden was on my show in 2022. 01:37:47.040 --> 01:37:47.720 Think about that. 01:37:48.561 --> 01:37:50.683 And now she won't talk to me anymore. 01:37:50.983 --> 01:37:51.924 How is that possible? 01:37:52.124 --> 01:37:53.805 Because of people like this. 01:37:54.065 --> 01:37:54.566 So listen. 01:37:58.109 --> 01:38:00.711 We are joined with, I think a new guest. 01:38:00.811 --> 01:38:02.773 Dan, I don't think I've ever had you on this show. 01:38:02.933 --> 01:38:03.493 Dan Cohen. 01:38:04.054 --> 01:38:04.614 How you doing, man? 01:38:04.634 --> 01:38:05.115 You doing okay? 01:38:05.695 --> 01:38:06.576 I'm good, I'm good. 01:38:06.656 --> 01:38:07.757 How is that possible? 01:38:08.766 --> 01:38:09.947 How can you start a show? 01:38:10.027 --> 01:38:11.648 I don't think I've ever had you on. 01:38:12.248 --> 01:38:23.855 I'm sorry, but there's no amount of interviewing you could do and not know whether you had somebody on your podcast for an interview and still know them. 01:38:25.255 --> 01:38:26.056 Do you see my point? 01:38:26.076 --> 01:38:29.018 So what he's giving away is that they've known each other for a while. 01:38:29.458 --> 01:38:30.979 He's been on Twitter for a while. 01:38:31.039 --> 01:38:34.441 He does very well for himself on Twitter for a while. 01:38:35.529 --> 01:38:40.811 and they've known each other for a while, and he's gotta say, I don't know if I've ever had you on my podcast before. 01:38:41.891 --> 01:38:50.635 Think about that and me saying that about someone would imply that we knew each other, but I just haven't had you on before. 01:38:50.675 --> 01:38:52.955 We talk all the time, but I haven't had you on before. 01:38:53.756 --> 01:38:59.618 You see, I can't remember the last time, Mark Kulak, when I had you on my podcast, but I have had you on. 01:39:01.238 --> 01:39:02.379 That's not what he said. 01:39:04.810 --> 01:39:06.351 And I think that's pretty significant. 01:39:06.371 --> 01:39:13.256 I think it's an admission that they've known each other for a long time, which means that getting on this podcast wasn't really that big of a deal. 01:39:13.276 --> 01:39:18.681 Um, and in fact, uh, is just part of a, you know, that's how the plan works. 01:39:18.721 --> 01:39:19.301 I've never been. 01:39:19.881 --> 01:39:22.143 We are joined with, I think a new guest. 01:39:22.263 --> 01:39:24.585 I don't, Dan, I don't think I've ever had you on this show. 01:39:24.705 --> 01:39:25.266 Dan Cohen. 01:39:25.826 --> 01:39:26.386 How you doing, man? 01:39:26.406 --> 01:39:26.887 You doing okay. 01:39:27.467 --> 01:39:27.807 I'm good. 01:39:27.847 --> 01:39:28.148 I'm good. 01:39:28.288 --> 01:39:29.689 Uh, just, um, 01:39:30.188 --> 01:39:31.189 Yeah, getting my morning going. 01:39:31.229 --> 01:39:32.209 I've never been on. 01:39:32.529 --> 01:39:34.010 It's a pleasure to be on with you. 01:39:34.250 --> 01:39:36.331 Well, it's a pleasure to have you, which is a give you a moaning donut. 01:39:37.212 --> 01:39:38.853 Dan Coyne, journalist, filmmaker. 01:39:39.613 --> 01:39:49.898 He has contributed to Al Jazeera, English, Alternate, Electronic, Infotata, Rayzone, Middle East, I, Mondewise, The Nation, Vice News, Mint Press. 01:39:52.120 --> 01:39:54.301 You've been around, to put it mildly. 01:39:55.041 --> 01:39:55.681 You have been around. 01:39:56.961 --> 01:39:57.642 Let me ask you this. 01:39:58.022 --> 01:40:08.524 I didn't hit, there's a tweet that you responded to and I kind of want to dig into the tweet because I'm interested in this aspect of Charlie Kirk's death. 01:40:09.824 --> 01:40:17.406 I've been fascinated by the way each side has been trying to use him as a cudgel to hit the other side. 01:40:18.306 --> 01:40:19.746 It's almost like there wasn't a real person. 01:40:20.546 --> 01:40:23.387 That a lot of what has been put out has been this kind of 01:40:24.329 --> 01:40:26.850 deification or desecration. 01:40:27.731 --> 01:40:33.654 And depending upon the side that you're on, using that club to beat the head of the other side. 01:40:34.354 --> 01:40:35.094 It is very weird. 01:40:35.114 --> 01:40:35.995 It's very strange. 01:40:36.795 --> 01:40:44.739 The images that they've come out with Jesus taking Kurt, Charlie Kurt away to somewhere, like all of this stuff is very strange. 01:40:44.819 --> 01:40:45.620 It's very bizarre. 01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:48.781 Um, let's start there for Bill. 01:40:49.281 --> 01:40:52.181 Give me a take on this and just to give reference point. 01:40:52.481 --> 01:40:52.882 It was this. 01:40:53.182 --> 01:41:06.805 So this video is before, um, Charlie Kirk's, uh, whatever that happened yesterday, which of course would, would make everything that had made everything that happened before pretty, pretty tame. 01:41:07.345 --> 01:41:11.946 Um, anyway, that you were responding to from Sarah bills. 01:41:14.218 --> 01:41:19.582 So here we go talking about a tweet, and that being a conversation that people should pay attention to, i.e. 01:41:19.662 --> 01:41:23.645 there is a relevant thing there on social media, which I don't agree with, but okay. 01:41:23.965 --> 01:41:24.206 Right here. 01:41:25.006 --> 01:41:30.991 It says, Sarah says, why was Charlie giving multiple members of the Trump administration his quote, final wishes before he died? 01:41:31.471 --> 01:41:33.172 First Miller, now Noam. 01:41:34.013 --> 01:41:36.535 And you point out, he says, because they're following the same script. 01:41:37.135 --> 01:41:41.499 Once you see that they're national security state actors, then you can't unsee it. 01:41:42.352 --> 01:41:46.694 We are governed by highly paid liars via cable TV, social media, and podcasts. 01:41:47.355 --> 01:41:51.296 And just to be clear, Sarah wasn't saying that he knew he was going to die. 01:41:51.617 --> 01:42:00.641 His point was, how are all of these people all of a sudden bringing this up as if I was the last person to talk to Charlie and Charlie told me X or Y? 01:42:01.081 --> 01:42:02.182 Break down your comment for me. 01:42:06.055 --> 01:42:17.784 I think that right here, a friend of mine would say that I have a very good friend of mine named Jonathan Cooey, who puts it better than me when he says that we are governed by podcast. 01:42:19.306 --> 01:42:23.489 He called, he came up with this national security state actor phrase. 01:42:23.929 --> 01:42:27.192 And I think it's a really apt way to describe what these people are. 01:42:27.793 --> 01:42:28.033 But 01:42:30.120 --> 01:42:35.362 Just saying you could right there already just say, you know, it's not just me. 01:42:35.462 --> 01:42:53.368 It's a lot of people So my comment that these are national security state actors, I mean well Sarah firstly was pointing out that the Homeland Security Secretary what's her name the former governor of 01:42:54.591 --> 01:42:57.032 of like, no, yeah, Christie know him. 01:42:57.312 --> 01:42:57.573 Yeah. 01:42:57.833 --> 01:42:59.894 Um, and then, and then who was the other one? 01:42:59.974 --> 01:43:01.534 JD van, who was, who was the other person? 01:43:01.554 --> 01:43:03.155 She was, it was, let me see. 01:43:03.775 --> 01:43:06.377 It was Christie gnome and it was Miller. 01:43:06.697 --> 01:43:08.038 Um, Steven Miller, of course. 01:43:08.358 --> 01:43:08.558 Yeah. 01:43:09.058 --> 01:43:12.900 Um, both said that he, uh, um, 01:43:13.971 --> 01:43:19.472 that, sorry, I have to switch my brain from a completely different subject that I was just working on. 01:43:19.852 --> 01:43:33.494 Both said that Charlie Kirk had told them in, you know, right before he was killed, that he was, you know, we need to crack down on the terrorist left, things like that. 01:43:33.514 --> 01:43:43.076 That's not an exact quote, but which is obvious, you know, fodder for for just right wing 01:43:43.900 --> 01:43:50.643 Um, you know, everyone, the kind of narrative that the left is crazy and they celebrate killing and we need to crack down on them. 01:43:50.703 --> 01:43:54.945 And, you know, and they're not only they celebrate killing, but, but, you know, they're killers even. 01:43:55.886 --> 01:44:04.130 Um, and that, so what my point and Sarah said, look, they're saying the same thing, which is very strange. 01:44:04.170 --> 01:44:10.333 And she clarified, I'm not saying that Charlie Kirk knew he was going to die, but it's strange that they're both saying this. 01:44:10.513 --> 01:44:12.814 And my point is, yes, these are, 01:44:13.608 --> 01:44:15.577 These people are scripted. 01:44:16.414 --> 01:44:20.336 they are saying that for a very specific political reason. 01:44:21.577 --> 01:44:31.882 Kristi Noem was put in that position, you know, if you look at she's like a she's a grandmother, but she got like a nice haircut, got like plastic surgery, got Botox. 01:44:31.942 --> 01:44:33.523 Kristi Noem is a grandmother? 01:44:33.883 --> 01:44:34.143 Yes. 01:44:34.904 --> 01:44:35.184 Yeah. 01:44:35.764 --> 01:44:36.885 And yeah, exactly. 01:44:36.925 --> 01:44:39.046 She's, you know, she's an older lady. 01:44:39.486 --> 01:44:43.528 I mean, she's into her 60s, I believe. 01:44:44.029 --> 01:44:44.669 I had no idea. 01:44:45.714 --> 01:44:46.599 Yeah, I had no idea. 01:44:47.022 --> 01:44:49.054 And they made her kind of like, you know, 01:44:50.512 --> 01:44:52.413 Hot, quote unquote. 01:44:52.433 --> 01:45:09.598 They tried to make her look physically attractive and put her in this position as Homeland Security for this theater where she goes out with ICE agents and cracks down on criminals and does all these appearances on social media in particular. 01:45:10.038 --> 01:45:12.078 Stephen Miller is saying the same thing. 01:45:12.458 --> 01:45:16.820 So this is clearly a script that went out. 01:45:18.524 --> 01:45:23.052 My point is I think actually a fundamental thing that people need to understand. 01:45:23.072 --> 01:45:26.538 Yeah, you can see like, you know, that she's 60. 01:45:27.139 --> 01:45:30.404 She's I mean, we can look up exactly Christy gnome age. 01:45:32.397 --> 01:45:32.617 She's 53. 01:45:33.437 --> 01:45:34.318 So she's not she's not 60. 01:45:35.659 --> 01:45:36.639 But she is a grandmother. 01:45:37.260 --> 01:45:39.201 Um, she looks good for 53. 01:45:39.301 --> 01:45:39.541 Jesus. 01:45:39.621 --> 01:45:39.942 Yeah. 01:45:40.342 --> 01:45:51.870 But I mean, if you look at pictures of her, like from before, if you look up Christie gnome, like age, you can find pictures of her from before where she looks much more plain, like home. 01:45:51.910 --> 01:45:52.650 She looks her age. 01:45:53.010 --> 01:45:54.351 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 01:45:54.711 --> 01:45:56.593 But you know, and she got plastic surgery. 01:45:56.693 --> 01:46:01.376 Clearly, she got like, clearly does like Botox, you know, lip enhancements, these kind of things. 01:46:02.436 --> 01:46:04.157 That's not just because of vanity. 01:46:04.297 --> 01:46:19.305 That's because they're trying to market her for, you know, kind of conservative audiences to bring them in to this whole like MAGA farm support Trump. 01:46:19.845 --> 01:46:29.630 So, you know, having like a good looking older woman to go and do these appearances on social media where she's out there with the ICE agents getting the criminals, this kind of thing. 01:46:30.205 --> 01:46:32.428 That is all propaganda. 01:46:33.489 --> 01:46:37.193 And it's a theater is how I describe it, national security state theater. 01:46:37.934 --> 01:46:46.865 And really, this is the main thing that I think people on all sides of the political spectrum have to understand. 01:46:47.515 --> 01:46:55.938 about social media, we just assume that, you know, like, yeah, they're like social media is pretty normal. 01:46:55.978 --> 01:46:59.980 Like we have our X accounts, we have our whatever, Instagram, whatever you use. 01:47:00.360 --> 01:47:07.763 I mean, in particular, you know, a lot of people I think who are in journalism, who are in our spheres, use X in particular. 01:47:09.455 --> 01:47:37.815 but and we are kind of under this sort of illusion that there is some amount there's free speech or some amount or it was censored but Elon restored it even if we don't really like Elon this politics now we have free speech because a lot of the people who were banned you know were brought back and you know what is he laughing about there it's so weird oh it's a place of free exchange and all these things when in reality 01:47:38.772 --> 01:48:03.024 It is, not only is this a corporate platform, it is military-grade social engineering made to, where it is, where there is a lot of inorganic activity and scripted national security state actors that are 01:48:04.011 --> 01:48:12.558 difficult to identify and that are put in place to rise at certain points in order to kind of steer 01:48:15.396 --> 01:48:18.279 how people think in order to engineer their mind. 01:48:18.719 --> 01:48:24.364 Because the most important thing is this little, our consciousness, that's what they're really fighting for. 01:48:24.724 --> 01:48:32.211 How we think, how we perceive reality, and then that determines what we do with our day-to-day on a day-to-day basis. 01:48:32.591 --> 01:48:33.512 And so it's funny, right? 01:48:33.552 --> 01:48:37.796 Because what he could say is, is that I've got this friend named Jonathan Cooey who 01:48:38.576 --> 01:48:52.933 learned this because he realized that the entire anti-vax movement was full of actors like this who just kind of populate these conferences and these non-profits to make it seem like there's a legitimate health freedom movement when actually their whole 01:48:53.573 --> 01:48:59.216 real rhetoric is controlled and they're used as part of this limited spectrum of debate. 01:48:59.576 --> 01:49:03.118 And he got involved because he really thought there was a fight going on. 01:49:03.158 --> 01:49:05.439 And as a biologist, he exposed it. 01:49:05.539 --> 01:49:08.020 So I'm interested to see when that actually happens. 01:49:08.320 --> 01:49:15.063 So the thing is, the more we get good, quote unquote, at social media, 01:49:23.294 --> 01:49:29.798 the more we build a big following and we feel like we're interacting with 01:49:32.571 --> 01:49:44.659 important people, maybe some journalist who you used to really look up to, and all of a sudden they're favoriting and retweeting your posts, and maybe you're DMing with them. 01:49:44.719 --> 01:49:47.861 A lot of that is so incredibly easy to manipulate. 01:49:48.682 --> 01:49:50.863 For example, I'll give an example. 01:49:51.844 --> 01:49:53.005 The account Syrian Girl, 01:49:54.026 --> 01:50:11.865 Maram Sousley, she's Australian-Syrian, she said, well, Charlie Kirk followed me recently on X, and that is proof that he was changing his position on Israel. 01:50:12.757 --> 01:50:18.541 Now, Charlie, and that went viral, that got like several thousand retweets and many more likes. 01:50:19.842 --> 01:50:23.684 Charlie Kirk follows like, I think it was like 185,000 people on Twitter. 01:50:24.024 --> 01:50:29.228 I just follow is like literally anything. 01:50:29.668 --> 01:50:29.808 Yeah. 01:50:33.297 --> 01:50:38.920 So number one, if that is somehow meaningful, I just don't see it. 01:50:38.940 --> 01:50:41.562 I think that's at best, I would say wishful thinking. 01:50:42.082 --> 01:50:43.563 Yeah, it's her point of view. 01:50:43.583 --> 01:50:44.484 It's like her little window. 01:50:44.944 --> 01:50:45.164 Right. 01:50:45.584 --> 01:50:55.190 And secondly, Or you could see it as somebody who understands that everybody he follows will see everything that he tweets because social media is programmed to his benefit. 01:50:56.533 --> 01:50:59.215 That might be the reason why you would follow that many people. 01:50:59.315 --> 01:51:07.162 Not because you want to see what those people respond, but because you've been told that the programming algorithm has been gamed for you. 01:51:07.742 --> 01:51:10.865 And so everybody that you follow will see everything that you tweet. 01:51:10.985 --> 01:51:18.712 So, you know, put your staff on it and realize that you're gathering people that will see every radio signal that you send out. 01:51:19.252 --> 01:51:21.773 because they've gamed social media for you, all right? 01:51:22.253 --> 01:51:23.793 Here we go, a deal. 01:51:24.273 --> 01:51:37.536 And so they're trying to pretend that that's some kind of evidence that something fake was going on instead of evidence that it was somebody who was actively participating in the militarization of social media against the American public. 01:51:37.576 --> 01:51:38.836 Do you see the problem here? 01:51:39.316 --> 01:51:40.936 There's still need to tweak it. 01:51:41.156 --> 01:51:44.837 Especially, you know, bigger figures like Charlie Kirk. 01:51:45.850 --> 01:51:54.577 they're not spending all day, like a lot of social media users who are really good at X, they're not spending all their time on social media. 01:51:54.637 --> 01:51:55.998 He's like a political actor. 01:51:56.078 --> 01:52:00.601 He's flying here and running Turning Points USA or this kind of thing. 01:52:01.882 --> 01:52:04.183 So there are people that manage those accounts. 01:52:04.864 --> 01:52:12.189 So there's no indication that Charlie Kirk himself, it was Charlie Kirk's account 01:52:13.530 --> 01:52:26.806 could be run by literally anybody, could be run by... I'm not really sure Dan has ever said any of this kind of skeptic position of social media before and say that you don't know who's DMing you or liking your tweets. 01:52:27.347 --> 01:52:29.769 I really feel like that's my message and 01:52:30.430 --> 01:52:34.013 Before me, there hasn't been anybody in his ear saying it. 01:52:34.053 --> 01:52:36.595 So it's strange to me up until this point. 01:52:36.655 --> 01:52:38.037 I hope we're gonna get a shout out. 01:52:38.057 --> 01:52:41.119 His assistant, his hired social media intern. 01:52:41.520 --> 01:52:45.463 It could be run by somebody directly working in the national security state. 01:52:46.064 --> 01:52:54.811 And this is the kind of thing where it's like, oh, Charlie... It means skilled social media user if you're really good at X. That's what it means, skilled social media use. 01:52:54.991 --> 01:52:56.693 He's basically paraphrasing that. 01:52:58.584 --> 01:53:00.787 He must be having some kind of change. 01:53:02.148 --> 01:53:08.395 So this is the point that I'm trying to make, is that all of these platforms 01:53:09.073 --> 01:53:13.778 not only X, TikTok, Facebook, you know, they're for different generations. 01:53:13.838 --> 01:53:16.360 Now it's like boomers who use Facebook. 01:53:16.820 --> 01:53:22.946 It's like a lot of kids who use TikTok and, you know, like, I don't know, Instagram and, and YouTube. 01:53:23.246 --> 01:53:28.011 And Rumble is now the like alternative platform, you know, but Rumble is like, 01:53:28.611 --> 01:53:51.747 Another one that this is you know, you can have they can make certain podcasts or shows rise To be you know, all of a sudden you're getting 10, you know You're the one that's out front to get tens of thousands of viewers or whatever, you know live So all of this is basically an invented reality in many ways and it's very difficult. 01:53:51.827 --> 01:53:54.829 It's like WWE or WWF we're like 01:53:55.939 --> 01:53:59.481 you know, it's how do we know what's fake and what's real? 01:53:59.762 --> 01:54:04.485 Like, it's scripted, but there are things that are happening that are real, but but we don't know. 01:54:04.925 --> 01:54:09.268 And the overwhelming majority of social media users do not understand 01:54:10.296 --> 01:54:13.038 the level to which it is, it is scripted. 01:54:13.659 --> 01:54:26.650 And these political actors and political of the single uniparty that rules this country are, these people are following scripts. 01:54:27.070 --> 01:54:34.897 The national security state is thinking generations ahead in its plans of what it wants to do. 01:54:35.777 --> 01:54:41.000 you and I are reacting to the news on a daily basis of what's happening. 01:54:41.080 --> 01:54:45.383 We are not understanding there is a major long-term agenda. 01:54:47.064 --> 01:54:49.806 And the big question, of course, what are those agendas? 01:54:49.826 --> 01:54:51.927 And that's a huge question. 01:54:52.007 --> 01:54:55.529 But my point is social media is their terrain. 01:54:55.649 --> 01:54:56.630 It is their theater. 01:54:56.870 --> 01:54:57.911 It is their matrix. 01:54:58.231 --> 01:54:59.292 It is not ours. 01:54:59.412 --> 01:55:01.333 And it is not a public square that 01:55:02.065 --> 01:55:08.608 You know, they just kind of bought and are making money off of any form of controlling our minds. 01:55:09.909 --> 01:55:10.729 Yeah. 01:55:10.810 --> 01:55:12.070 I used to be a software engineer. 01:55:12.650 --> 01:55:14.311 I was a software engineer for like 10 years. 01:55:16.212 --> 01:55:22.856 Any platform that there's a layer of code between you and that platform, I can control. 01:55:24.051 --> 01:55:35.073 And I say that to say, whether you have sock puppet accounts, whether you have certain algorithms that push certain things over other things, those things are manipulated or can be manipulated. 01:55:35.453 --> 01:55:44.035 And I'm talking about, and Dan should be talking about scripted actors that don't need any manipulation other than for everybody to see them. 01:55:45.095 --> 01:55:46.356 That's what we're talking about. 01:55:46.396 --> 01:55:48.276 There's no programming involved in that. 01:55:49.201 --> 01:55:57.507 If everybody that Charlie Kirk follows is programmed to see whatever Charlie Kirk tweets, then that's it. 01:55:57.647 --> 01:55:58.068 It's done. 01:55:58.108 --> 01:55:58.808 It's programmed. 01:55:58.868 --> 01:55:59.209 It's over. 01:55:59.249 --> 01:56:00.330 There's no algorithms. 01:56:00.370 --> 01:56:06.754 There's no things that need demystification or we got to get the AI out of this. 01:56:06.935 --> 01:56:12.719 It's just actors on a script that have agreed to accept the script because that's their job. 01:56:12.759 --> 01:56:14.520 And it doesn't matter how it's edited. 01:56:14.921 --> 01:56:17.803 They don't need to know because it's a need to know basis. 01:56:19.226 --> 01:56:21.147 in a way that serves certain agendas. 01:56:21.927 --> 01:56:22.527 So yeah, you're right. 01:56:22.607 --> 01:56:25.868 It's not reality in the reality sense of the word. 01:56:26.469 --> 01:56:27.809 There's always a space. 01:56:27.989 --> 01:56:40.054 There's a rift between you trying to hit at real reality versus the code base that's there to give you, let's say, a view, a take on what that reality is. 01:56:40.094 --> 01:56:40.994 No, I totally agree with you. 01:56:41.034 --> 01:56:43.475 I mean, I give you, especially political actors, 01:56:44.315 --> 01:56:45.476 They tend to be on script. 01:56:46.176 --> 01:56:51.700 So for example, you had all of the drones that go into Ukraine and then all of a sudden you see 01:56:53.944 --> 01:56:59.409 80 on my site, maybe like 30 internet sites coming up saying Donald Trump is weak. 01:57:00.090 --> 01:57:02.051 Donald Trump allows NATO to be attacked. 01:57:02.431 --> 01:57:09.197 And they're saying almost the exact same thing with maybe a different tone, a different letter, a different word here or there. 01:57:10.098 --> 01:57:19.606 So he imagines that what he's seeing is what a national security theater or just the spontaneous output of the human population. 01:57:19.686 --> 01:57:20.807 See, that's the trick here. 01:57:21.347 --> 01:57:33.418 They have a very specific agenda of what they want to accomplish in referencing that particular event, creating hysteria around that particular event, trying to get a following on that particular event to get it to bubble up on the side of the thing. 01:57:34.264 --> 01:57:40.366 Those people, they know that this wasn't an attack or NATO. 01:57:40.986 --> 01:57:44.668 That doesn't stop them from pushing it out there in order to try to pull Donald Trump in a particular direction. 01:57:45.228 --> 01:57:45.688 It's scripted. 01:57:46.108 --> 01:57:46.408 Agreed. 01:57:47.329 --> 01:57:48.249 And it's not just that. 01:57:48.369 --> 01:57:49.229 It can be all sorts of things. 01:57:49.289 --> 01:57:59.253 I mean, Cuban Twitter, if you remember, where I think the CIA created this kind of Twitter-like thing that they controlled, that they wanted to use to try to overthrow Donald Trump. 01:58:02.034 --> 01:58:11.762 He said CIA. 01:58:12.603 --> 01:58:19.349 So he seems to know that it can be used that way, but he doesn't seem to consider that it has been used that way on the Western world. 01:58:19.429 --> 01:58:20.370 That's the shocking part. 01:58:20.390 --> 01:58:20.810 I agree with you. 01:58:20.950 --> 01:58:21.891 No, I totally agree with you. 01:58:22.031 --> 01:58:23.712 I don't think people look at it in those terms, though. 01:58:24.073 --> 01:58:24.873 Let me add something. 01:58:25.834 --> 01:58:44.774 I mean, yeah, so like people understand, you know, a lot of anti-imperialists know about that episode in particular, well, yeah, that episode in particular where they had that, yeah, Twitter kind of thing that they operated, I think it was like ZunZuneo or something like that in Cuba to overthrow the government. 01:58:44.914 --> 01:58:47.937 Social media was clearly a weapon for regime change. 01:58:48.490 --> 01:59:10.220 So if it is a weapon for regime change and social engineering Don't forget an advisor to chd and robert f kennedy jr And now acip member robert malone was a part of the arab spring operation Which was also a flexing of the social media muscle to maneuver a population Against cuban sovereignty. 01:59:10.680 --> 01:59:14.242 Well, what does that mean that we are using it every day? 01:59:14.362 --> 01:59:16.123 How are we being engineered? 01:59:16.516 --> 01:59:21.042 in a far more sophisticated way than it was like a decade or so ago. 01:59:21.583 --> 01:59:24.347 Another thing I might point out about that is 01:59:26.101 --> 01:59:33.469 The idea that, okay, so we all see that there are coordinated groups of liars. 01:59:33.549 --> 01:59:44.742 October 7th, perfect example, the 40 beheaded babies, these kinds of things, where everyone who is paying attention or is critical, basically, 01:59:46.744 --> 01:59:51.746 saw that as an basically obvious hoax, and saw that it was coordinated. 01:59:51.786 --> 02:00:00.210 That was very clearly, I mean, it was, we know that that came from Netanyahu's office and was handed out, you know, okay, that was very obvious. 02:00:01.431 --> 02:00:02.711 So we know these things happen. 02:00:03.392 --> 02:00:05.733 And those are those are the most obvious ones. 02:00:06.073 --> 02:00:12.636 What I would suggest the example that you gave about like, these, you know, drones in the Poland, 02:00:13.655 --> 02:00:24.360 in order to convince Donald Trump to be more aggressive towards Russia, whatever, I think that Donald, the idea that Donald Trump is, 02:00:26.315 --> 02:00:37.805 Anti has these anti-interventionist instincts very end is pushed by Hawks Very well could be and probably is part of the script. 02:00:38.306 --> 02:00:49.896 Yes That's most security state script because it's a little point because you know, Donald Trump speaks from both sides of his mouth all the time he says, you know, we don't we don't seek regime change in Iran and 02:00:50.996 --> 02:00:51.897 You know, we don't want war. 02:00:51.917 --> 02:00:53.398 We're going to negotiate with them. 02:00:53.718 --> 02:01:05.143 And then he uses those negotiations to give Israel the element of surprise for Israel to launch this war, which then Trump, of course, supports in every way, and then actually even joined in. 02:01:05.684 --> 02:01:06.964 The same thing with Hamas. 02:01:07.024 --> 02:01:07.665 The U.S. 02:01:07.725 --> 02:01:07.905 was 02:01:08.465 --> 02:01:12.246 you know, oh, we got really tired of Joe Biden, you know, everyone's Oh, Trump is here. 02:01:12.266 --> 02:01:14.506 We got this temporary bag in the car. 02:01:14.866 --> 02:01:17.307 And then negotiations with Hamas. 02:01:17.367 --> 02:01:18.527 And this is great. 02:01:18.607 --> 02:01:20.627 And wow, finally, some sense here. 02:01:20.767 --> 02:01:27.268 And then the element of surprise, boom, you know, so that to me is all that's coordinated. 02:01:27.428 --> 02:01:28.169 That's yes. 02:01:28.769 --> 02:01:29.669 That's all the money. 02:01:30.249 --> 02:01:30.749 Exactly. 02:01:31.109 --> 02:01:31.669 Precisely. 02:01:31.909 --> 02:01:32.469 Precisely. 02:01:32.589 --> 02:01:32.849 Yes. 02:01:33.349 --> 02:01:34.490 They got those guys together. 02:01:34.510 --> 02:01:36.210 Boom, you know, so 02:01:37.502 --> 02:01:42.026 These are the same, these are scripts, national security state scripts. 02:01:42.106 --> 02:01:44.708 This is not happening again and again by accident. 02:01:44.908 --> 02:01:57.218 And if it were one time, you know, that Trump got played or got rolled, then I'd say, Oh, okay, you know, that might carry some water, this idea that, you know, he's being pressured like that. 02:01:57.878 --> 02:01:58.699 But, um, 02:01:59.389 --> 02:02:03.031 The reality, I think, fool me once, shame on you, right? 02:02:03.071 --> 02:02:13.478 Fool me like 30 times, then at some point, I'm just a goldfish going into the side of the bowl again and again, like think, think, think. 02:02:13.918 --> 02:02:16.560 And that's basically, I think, where we're at. 02:02:16.680 --> 02:02:26.907 And people who, and I'm not accusing you of this, obviously, but even myself, for a long time, I really thought that, yeah, Trump really does have these anti-interventionist instincts. 02:02:27.287 --> 02:02:28.648 He sells it really well. 02:02:29.424 --> 02:02:35.365 And I think this is broadly accepted in anti-imperialist thinking. 02:02:37.586 --> 02:02:41.587 Okay, I'm going to leave it right here for now. 02:02:41.727 --> 02:02:45.007 And after I get back from the gym, I'm going to pick it up where I left off. 02:02:45.047 --> 02:02:51.829 And if I do not manage to do that for some reason, which I don't think is going to be a problem, I will definitely pick it up here tomorrow morning. 02:02:52.769 --> 02:02:57.372 I have this and one more video and one more point to make that I think is all going to sync really nicely together. 02:02:57.853 --> 02:03:05.218 So hopefully at about 420 or so, 430 when I get back, I'll just take my sweaty head and put it back on the screen and start right here. 02:03:05.278 --> 02:03:06.619 So thanks very much for being here. 02:03:06.679 --> 02:03:07.720 There's no music out. 02:03:07.740 --> 02:03:08.800 I'm really going to leave right now. 02:03:08.820 --> 02:03:12.863 I'm going to stop streaming as soon as it goes blank and then I'll come back in a couple hours and finish this. 02:03:12.903 --> 02:03:14.624 Thanks very much and thanks for your patience. 02:03:15.565 --> 02:03:19.948 It's going to be a busy week and a busy month and a busy fall. 02:03:20.008 --> 02:03:20.809 Let's put it that way. 02:03:21.289 --> 02:03:27.836 We just crossed the fall equinox, so it's time for the work to really start. 02:03:27.876 --> 02:03:30.038 It's basketball season almost, ladies and gentlemen. 02:03:30.058 --> 02:03:32.001 That means big time, big time focus. 02:03:32.481 --> 02:03:35.224 Thanks for being here, and I'll see you again in a few hours. 02:03:35.304 --> 02:03:36.766 I really hope it's going to work out. 02:03:36.786 --> 02:03:37.306 I think it will. 02:03:37.887 --> 02:03:38.648 Thanks, thanks, thanks.