WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:05.560 they had a cold previously, and for a couple of months if they had flu, and they also lost 00:05.560 --> 00:08.560 this sense of smell, it's just amazing. 00:08.560 --> 00:15.080 So it seems to me that people operating cults, and they just operate on a belief system, 00:15.080 --> 00:20.240 and that's how we solve, they don't, they're not capable of analysis, but actually even 00:20.240 --> 00:24.800 the people who are capable of analysis, they overthink everything and think their tiny 00:24.800 --> 00:28.240 little area of science is going to solve the world's problems. 00:28.240 --> 00:33.920 No, without them putting it into context, what they're saying, that it has no significance 00:33.920 --> 00:34.920 whatsoever. 00:34.920 --> 00:37.400 It's completely lost, and they might as well not bother. 00:37.400 --> 00:44.240 So I just wondered what your comments are about that. 00:44.240 --> 00:46.560 I mean, yeah, I agree. 00:46.560 --> 00:54.080 Right now we're just, I don't want to get too explanatory about it and pigeonhole myself 00:54.080 --> 01:00.360 into just, I want to be sure that this possibility of there being real biology that could have 01:00.360 --> 01:06.360 been used to mislead us, and even misleading virologists and misleading molecular biologists 01:06.360 --> 01:09.400 into believing that this signal is higher fidelity. 01:09.400 --> 01:17.720 So it is cultish, but it's cultish with real, you know, it's like if you went to a ceremony 01:17.720 --> 01:24.560 at some cult and across the water was a giant, a giant idol, and in front of that idol, 01:24.560 --> 01:29.600 a bunch of people looked like they were, they were, I don't know, sacrificing goats. 01:29.600 --> 01:32.560 From the other side of the river, you don't know what they're doing. 01:32.560 --> 01:36.600 And a lot of us are on the other side of the river with regard to the pandemic. 01:36.600 --> 01:39.000 We don't really know what's going on behind the scenes. 01:39.000 --> 01:41.360 We don't know what goes on behind the idol. 01:41.360 --> 01:44.560 We don't know where those lights are coming from or whether those people in those costumes 01:44.560 --> 01:46.200 are who they say they are. 01:46.200 --> 01:48.280 And so we're really lost here. 01:48.280 --> 01:53.840 I think it's very important to realize that so many of us have been duped into accepting 01:53.840 --> 02:00.240 people as, as not, I don't like the word savior, but as people who are trying to come to the 02:00.240 --> 02:06.680 rescue on white horses, when this script almost certainly prepared that for us. 02:06.680 --> 02:11.160 It had to have, and only in retrospect as it becomes so visible. 02:11.160 --> 02:16.440 So I think you're right in characterizing it that way, but it is extremely diabolical 02:16.440 --> 02:20.520 because not everybody who's participating knows that they have been bamboozled. 02:20.520 --> 02:26.840 I did not know how badly I was being fooled and how many people were active in fooling 02:26.840 --> 02:29.440 me for those first two and a half years. 02:29.440 --> 02:31.520 It's only obvious now. 02:31.520 --> 02:38.120 It's strange because it's strange that even you could get into it because it was obvious 02:38.120 --> 02:40.880 to me from the beginning that everything was wrong. 02:40.880 --> 02:41.880 That's different. 02:41.880 --> 02:46.440 You have to, you have to, you have to see that that's not what I was thinking. 02:46.440 --> 02:47.880 Those aren't the questions I was asking. 02:47.880 --> 02:50.520 I was not asking, is the pandemic real? 02:50.520 --> 02:54.960 I was asking, is the virus lab leak or natural? 02:54.960 --> 03:00.640 And if you're not, but this is the point I'm trying to make with this talk is that if 03:00.640 --> 03:06.080 you were asking the question of whether the pandemic is real or fake, you were stuck in 03:06.080 --> 03:10.680 a certain path that was very different than being stuck in the, is the pandemic and natural 03:10.680 --> 03:12.000 or lab leak. 03:12.000 --> 03:17.240 And if you picked the right people, you were going to be stuck over here and you were never, 03:17.240 --> 03:20.880 ever, ever going to be allowed to ask this question. 03:20.880 --> 03:25.000 Do you understand that if, if you're in a private chat with a bunch of people that think 03:25.000 --> 03:30.840 this is a low level lab leak, you can't ever get those people to discuss the possibility 03:30.840 --> 03:33.520 that they might be completely wrong. 03:33.520 --> 03:38.720 And the questions that they ask are going to fuel this very limited spectrum of debate 03:38.720 --> 03:40.800 that's very vigorous within it. 03:40.800 --> 03:47.040 And if it's somebody like Joe Rogan talking to Mike Osterholm, it's, these are things 03:47.040 --> 03:52.520 that people all have to sort out and as an academic biologist, I went with academia. 03:52.520 --> 03:54.600 I got stuck with academia. 03:54.600 --> 03:59.420 And so I was trying to sort out what's wrong with academia and to get all the way to the 03:59.420 --> 04:05.960 stage where I can now relatively succinctly explain how screwed up academia is. 04:05.960 --> 04:07.040 It took me a long time. 04:07.080 --> 04:11.640 I needed to get, I needed to get far enough away from it so I could see it. 04:11.640 --> 04:18.040 And so every person, every doctor, every healthcare worker, every carpenter that bought into 04:18.040 --> 04:24.520 this mystery needs to work their own way out and there were own way away from this because 04:24.520 --> 04:29.920 they've been so entranced and enchanted to solve this mystery. 04:29.920 --> 04:34.480 And then they also don't forget they almost all of us came to the conclusion that we 04:34.480 --> 04:39.800 had solved it, that I was winning, that I had finally figured it out. 04:39.800 --> 04:46.040 And that's a very dangerous place to be because then you can really be really hard to be convinced 04:46.040 --> 04:47.040 that you've been fooled. 04:47.040 --> 04:48.040 And that's where I was. 04:48.040 --> 04:52.080 And I brought a lot of people there and a lot of people in my family or family and friends 04:52.080 --> 04:56.440 in circle took the shot because I wasn't arguing the right biology. 04:56.440 --> 04:58.240 I was telling them it was a lab leak. 04:58.240 --> 05:01.800 So hey, if I say it's a lab leak, but you don't have to worry about it, how are you 05:01.800 --> 05:03.360 going to take my word for that? 05:03.360 --> 05:04.520 And that's what I was saying. 05:04.520 --> 05:08.120 It's a lab leak, but you don't have to worry about it because your immune system is strong. 05:08.120 --> 05:11.480 And all you have to do is doubt your health or doubt your immune system or say, well, 05:11.480 --> 05:15.560 I'm not as good a shape as Jay, I better take the transfection. 05:15.560 --> 05:20.300 So I didn't save anyone when I could have saved someone because I was fooled by the 05:20.300 --> 05:21.800 same narrative. 05:21.800 --> 05:26.080 And that's what I think is so powerful about my story because I can start crying about 05:26.080 --> 05:27.080 it. 05:27.080 --> 05:32.080 And one of my friends had an aneurysm on December, I don't remember what the date is anymore, 05:32.080 --> 05:35.680 but he had an aneurysm, just a freak. 05:35.680 --> 05:36.680 He's just dead. 05:36.680 --> 05:42.200 He's got two daughters and a beautiful wife and he's gone forever because he and his family 05:42.200 --> 05:44.600 took the shots because I didn't have it. 05:44.600 --> 05:47.560 I didn't have the story back then. 05:47.560 --> 05:51.920 And it's really important that people see that it's okay. 05:51.920 --> 05:53.320 We all didn't have the story. 05:53.320 --> 05:59.680 And if we can all come to this realization, we can all collectively lift each other out. 05:59.680 --> 06:01.080 It really is an important. 06:01.080 --> 06:02.080 It's an important moment. 06:02.080 --> 06:03.080 I think. 06:03.080 --> 06:04.080 Yeah. 06:04.080 --> 06:12.600 So, um, so one, just very quickly, I get traction when I say that I'm a medical doctor 06:12.600 --> 06:13.600 to people. 06:13.600 --> 06:14.600 I don't even know. 06:14.600 --> 06:16.280 I just talk to them. 06:16.280 --> 06:22.200 I know how to talk to people, as Jerry Brady says, you know, and, and when I say that I'm 06:22.200 --> 06:29.200 a doctor, not, not for any glory or anything, obviously, and then I say no pandemic, I get 06:29.200 --> 06:30.400 their interest. 06:30.400 --> 06:34.640 And then I say, by the way, there's no novel disease either. 06:34.640 --> 06:35.640 There's no COVID-19. 06:35.640 --> 06:38.520 And they say, Oh, well, I had COVID. 06:38.520 --> 06:44.960 I said, don't think he did, but by that time, we usually got some kind of conversation going 06:44.960 --> 06:47.240 and they kind of believe me. 06:47.240 --> 06:52.040 And, but I noticed that they are a bit disturbed, you know, they're very confident about saying 06:52.040 --> 06:57.840 they've had COVID free prior to me saying no pandemic, no novel disease. 06:57.840 --> 07:04.120 And so it's a way, I think that we can influence people, but maybe you need to be, you know, 07:04.120 --> 07:09.440 a brilliant biologist like you, or, or, or a doctor because they, they hesitate to kind 07:09.440 --> 07:13.480 of take me on because it may probably look as though I mean business because I do. 07:13.480 --> 07:20.560 But anyway, I wanted to ask you, um, the gain of function thing, I think maybe the, the 07:20.560 --> 07:24.320 message is being missed by some people. 07:24.320 --> 07:30.760 So in my opinion, the gain of function research, which they're plugging and saying, Oh, how 07:30.760 --> 07:33.400 illegal it is, you know, and the people are saying, Oh, it's terrible. 07:33.400 --> 07:37.840 They're doing gain of function research, you know, United States is funding this gain 07:37.840 --> 07:44.120 of function research, but they don't understand even the people on our side who should know 07:44.120 --> 07:45.120 better. 07:45.120 --> 07:49.240 They don't understand the talk about the gain of function research and saying how bad it 07:49.240 --> 07:51.440 is and how it shouldn't be going on. 07:51.440 --> 07:55.480 And I think David Martin talks about it. 07:55.480 --> 07:57.760 You know, they don't understand that they're playing into the narrative. 07:57.760 --> 08:02.680 And I think that's what you're saying through much of the talk. 08:02.680 --> 08:08.040 And I don't know how we kind of phrase it so that people really understand it. 08:08.040 --> 08:12.400 Yeah, I mean, I think that that's the reason why I'm trying to teach the clones in different 08:12.400 --> 08:17.880 ways, because the gain of function, anything that they do, anytime they insert something 08:17.880 --> 08:21.680 or they make a, when they make a synthetic virus, they're making clones. 08:21.680 --> 08:24.960 So it's only a question of how much that they make, they make a little bit, or they make 08:24.960 --> 08:31.360 a lot, because the RNA is still not suddenly endowed with extra copying capabilities because 08:31.360 --> 08:33.800 you put an extra base or two in there. 08:33.800 --> 08:39.360 That doesn't change the properties of this multipoly protein replication complex that's 08:39.360 --> 08:41.400 hardly even understood. 08:41.400 --> 08:46.640 And so you can, you can put whatever RNA you want and you're limited by copying it with 08:46.640 --> 08:48.440 an RNA dependent RNA polymerase. 08:48.440 --> 08:52.640 So they keep weight making all this, these statements about what's going on, but there's 08:52.640 --> 08:56.800 nothing that you can do to the spike protein to change how well the RNA that codes for 08:56.800 --> 08:57.800 it is copied. 08:57.800 --> 08:59.920 That's like ridiculous. 08:59.920 --> 09:07.200 And that's the argument that we needed to learn the weaknesses of it from the very beginning, 09:07.200 --> 09:10.760 because all of us just bought into the cartoon that there are viruses and then they replicate 09:10.760 --> 09:13.960 and then we cough them out and then other people get sick. 09:13.960 --> 09:19.520 And it wasn't until I started really getting challenge on that and really listening to 09:19.520 --> 09:24.520 the objections of some of these people like Mark Bailey, where I started to see that there 09:24.520 --> 09:26.440 was something really incongruent. 09:26.440 --> 09:33.280 And I still feel like we need to revisit a lot of these narratives because best case scenario 09:33.280 --> 09:39.320 for virology and biology is that the fidelity of the signal has been grossly exaggerated, 09:39.320 --> 09:44.800 but there are signals that we could characterize as a measles virus or a flu virus or maybe 09:44.800 --> 09:51.720 even coronaviruses, but the worst case scenario for virology is that all of these are simply 09:51.720 --> 09:58.720 amplified noise that's been mischaracterized as transmitting pathogens, which in that case 09:58.720 --> 10:06.360 we have been probably actively misled by people controlling this sort of thought space, which 10:06.440 --> 10:12.800 is a much more diabolical situation and it goes back to AIDS and the people who controlled 10:12.800 --> 10:18.840 the biology story of AIDS and goes back to the whole vaccine schedule in America going 10:18.840 --> 10:25.240 from live attenuated vaccines to recombinant vaccines that were given intramuscularly. 10:25.240 --> 10:28.560 So that's the problem with this too, is that a lot of these people, that's why I say that 10:28.560 --> 10:33.000 at the end, how can you see the medlers, it's very hard to imagine that someone on this 10:33.040 --> 10:40.040 journey of discovery in the pandemic would stop at, wow, I guess they made a mistake 10:40.040 --> 10:45.120 with the transfection and so we should fix that before we move forward, like it's kind 10:45.120 --> 10:53.600 of a very selective attention on the lies and a very big amount of lies are ignored in 10:53.600 --> 10:55.800 that interpretation of reality. 10:55.800 --> 11:00.280 And so it's hard for me to believe that very many of the people that are on our team can 11:00.280 --> 11:05.880 still basically say that they think vaccinations in general are very good, like Brett Weinstein 11:05.880 --> 11:08.320 still says. 11:08.320 --> 11:13.400 And this is a very big red flag for me that almost everybody that lost their career and 11:13.400 --> 11:18.360 got censored and had to shake a can on the internet should be at the stage where they 11:18.360 --> 11:23.560 realize that the CDC is the largest producer of vaccines in America and that we have a 11:23.560 --> 11:28.560 schedule with more shots that are earlier than any other Western civilization country 11:28.560 --> 11:34.360 in the world and that alone, that difference alone should be enough to call on criminal. 11:34.360 --> 11:35.360 It's broad. 11:35.360 --> 11:36.360 I do this. 11:36.360 --> 11:37.360 Absolutely broad. 11:37.360 --> 11:38.360 Yeah. 11:38.360 --> 11:42.200 So I just wanted to ask you this key question, JJ, I don't know whether it's key, but it 11:42.200 --> 11:43.800 just seems to be to me. 11:43.800 --> 11:49.000 I think that virology genomics, I'm not sure about genomics and epidemiology, but yes, 11:49.000 --> 11:51.000 I think so. 11:51.360 --> 11:58.080 Certainly, virology, genomics, epidemiology, evidence-based medicine were constricts to 11:58.080 --> 12:05.640 achieve exactly what they launched in 2020 and that epidemiology, sorry, immunology, 12:05.640 --> 12:14.400 that as the virology increased in importance in inverted commas, the immunology sank into 12:15.400 --> 12:17.000 wasn't seen, you know. 12:17.000 --> 12:24.520 So the very subject which taught us all how brilliant the human immune system is and 12:24.520 --> 12:35.680 presumably the immune system of animals too, that went, lost its influence in the 18s. 12:35.680 --> 12:40.960 When I was at medical school, immunologists were kings of medicine, but now it seems 12:40.960 --> 12:43.360 that the virologists want to be kings of medicine. 12:43.360 --> 12:47.840 And I think that what they've been doing is fraudulent and it was a construct. 12:47.840 --> 12:53.080 I don't know it was fraudulent, but I think it was, I feel that it was, and it was a construct 12:53.080 --> 12:57.640 which was necessary for these bastards to do what they did in 2020. 12:57.640 --> 13:00.880 I think it's very possible that a lot of this mythology will break down. 13:00.880 --> 13:01.880 I do. 13:01.880 --> 13:02.880 Yeah. 13:02.880 --> 13:09.520 I just, I don't think we're under any obligation to be sophisticated enough to delineate what 13:09.520 --> 13:11.640 parts are fake and what parts are not. 13:11.640 --> 13:16.560 We just need to be focused on the current regime of lies and then work backwards from 13:16.560 --> 13:17.560 there. 13:17.560 --> 13:20.960 Yeah, but we have to be able to attack the world of virology if that's what we need to 13:20.960 --> 13:22.960 do in many different ways. 13:22.960 --> 13:27.400 And so I'm just thinking a little bit further than the end of my nose or trying to because 13:27.400 --> 13:34.440 a doctor should be thinking about the possibilities and warning his patients or the world if necessary 13:34.440 --> 13:35.720 about dangers. 13:35.720 --> 13:41.880 And so, yeah, so there was something else, but it's gone out of my head. 13:41.880 --> 13:49.680 Yeah, I liked your, I liked your examples, your analogies were excellent, I thought. 13:49.680 --> 13:55.600 So you talked about the, our children are on the train and we have little time to get 13:55.600 --> 13:57.160 them off the train. 13:57.160 --> 14:01.480 You didn't use those exact words, but I understand what you're saying. 14:01.480 --> 14:07.720 And what I think the train was was endless, deadly viral pandemics in the future. 14:07.720 --> 14:14.240 And not only was there no pandemic in 2020, in my opinion, but actually the possibility 14:14.240 --> 14:18.960 that there can be pandemics in the future. 14:18.960 --> 14:26.600 I think is another construct, they put this about so they can instill fear into the population 14:26.600 --> 14:28.800 and thereby achieve their aims. 14:28.800 --> 14:33.840 It's just necessary to have the fear and put out the propaganda. 14:33.840 --> 14:40.960 So the whole thing that people are fearing disease X and people who shouldn't be distracted 14:40.960 --> 14:42.440 are distracted. 14:42.440 --> 14:49.000 I won't mention names, but you must have seen the disease X and Marburg, it's just nonsense. 14:49.000 --> 14:55.080 And we don't need to fear all this nonsense, you know, and thinking about the next pandemic. 14:55.080 --> 14:58.400 So the British governments, I need to tell you this, JJ. 14:58.400 --> 15:05.840 So they had an inquiry in having an inquiry, a COVID inquiry, I try not to watch it because 15:05.840 --> 15:07.480 it's so bad. 15:07.480 --> 15:12.640 And what they'd intent on doing is saying to the bridge, the agenda is to say to the 15:12.640 --> 15:17.120 British people, well, actually, we should have locked down a bit earlier, you know, and then 15:17.120 --> 15:19.480 it would have been a lot better. 15:19.480 --> 15:25.560 And so along comes Boris Johnson, the former prime minister of the UK, who has many, many 15:25.560 --> 15:27.480 faults. 15:27.480 --> 15:32.440 He actually determined the remit of the person who's doing the inquiry, but of course he's 15:32.440 --> 15:34.480 out of power now. 15:34.480 --> 15:35.480 So he comes along. 15:35.480 --> 15:37.200 I think he blew the whistle. 15:37.200 --> 15:42.480 He said, so she was commiserating after two days of evidence when Boris broke down, you 15:42.480 --> 15:47.000 know, and the story in the newspaper that Boris broke down because everything was so sad, 15:47.000 --> 15:49.080 we should have locked down earlier. 15:49.080 --> 15:50.080 But guess what? 15:50.080 --> 15:53.440 Boris comes out at the end when she's commiserating with him. 15:53.440 --> 15:57.360 And he says, I don't think I'll see you in the near future. 15:57.360 --> 15:59.440 I was thinking to herself, what world is that? 15:59.440 --> 16:03.240 You know, he's describing, I think he'd be meeting, they'd be meeting at every party 16:03.240 --> 16:05.640 in the near future. 16:05.640 --> 16:12.760 So he said, I don't think it was, he said, I think, but you can't look into it. 16:12.760 --> 16:15.600 I think we need to determine where this came from. 16:15.600 --> 16:20.120 Well, dead right, but nobody noticed JJ, nobody noticed. 16:20.120 --> 16:26.600 I thought, wow, the former prime minister of the UK, who was beaten into following the 16:26.600 --> 16:31.720 narrative, in my opinion, likely, he was blowing the whistle at the end of his evidence 16:31.720 --> 16:36.600 of the COVID inquiry, and nobody noticed, except me. 16:36.600 --> 16:41.480 Well, if he says, if we says, I would argue that if he says we need to determine where 16:41.480 --> 16:44.840 the virus comes from, that he's telling you, you need to solve the mystery of the Scooby 16:44.840 --> 16:46.320 No, he just said it. 16:46.320 --> 16:47.320 He said it. 16:47.320 --> 16:49.320 Yeah, it's okay. 16:49.320 --> 16:53.280 Goodness those, what he meant, I'd love to contact him and find out what he meant. 16:53.280 --> 16:59.760 But probably he's got an army of people stopping people getting to him. 16:59.760 --> 17:05.120 So you remember when he went into the hospital, and he was terrified allegedly for his life, 17:05.120 --> 17:06.120 he ended up in ICU? 17:06.120 --> 17:11.400 I don't think he was in hospital, or he was, I mean, he was, he was predicted to go into 17:11.400 --> 17:16.160 the hospital in the, in the Olympic Games ceremony, right? 17:16.160 --> 17:21.560 I mean, we saw his, it's the 2012 games that were in London, where they had the virus from 17:21.560 --> 17:26.440 above, and they had a giant death walking around with all the attribute, or it was 17:26.440 --> 17:29.760 a tribute to the NHS, and they had all these beds being pushed around. 17:29.760 --> 17:33.360 And one of the people that was in the sick beds was, was him. 17:33.360 --> 17:37.360 So like they, they told us that it's beyond absurd. 17:37.360 --> 17:38.360 Yeah. 17:38.360 --> 17:41.680 I didn't know that you've never seen that. 17:41.680 --> 17:45.600 There was a guy with yellow hair, and he was like in the bed whining, and they made him 17:45.600 --> 17:46.600 look absurd. 17:46.600 --> 17:48.360 It was like a caricature of him. 17:48.360 --> 17:49.360 Wow. 17:49.360 --> 17:50.360 Yeah. 17:50.360 --> 17:51.360 Oh, yeah. 17:51.360 --> 17:52.360 That's 20 minutes, Stephen. 17:52.360 --> 17:55.800 It's a possibility that, I don't know for certain, but it's a real possibility, which 17:55.800 --> 18:01.440 you think about that Boris Johnson didn't believe what was going on in 2020, and he had to 18:01.440 --> 18:02.440 be persuaded. 18:02.440 --> 18:03.440 It could be. 18:03.440 --> 18:04.440 Yeah. 18:04.440 --> 18:05.440 It could be. 18:05.440 --> 18:06.440 Okay. 18:06.440 --> 18:07.440 All right. 18:07.440 --> 18:08.440 Thank you, Stephen. 18:08.440 --> 18:09.440 Okay. 18:09.440 --> 18:13.120 Now, Jim had his hand up first, and what happens with Zoom is if someone says anything that 18:13.120 --> 18:18.760 takes your hand down automatically, so Wolfgang, I saw you came in there, but Jim first and 18:18.760 --> 18:19.760 Jerry. 18:19.760 --> 18:20.760 Yeah. 18:20.760 --> 18:29.400 Thank you very much for your presentation, and I'd like to see him for us, I'm already 18:29.400 --> 18:35.040 useful, and I have a little bit of a different view on things. 18:35.040 --> 18:40.920 I'm concerned about, not about the virus or whatever, but the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein 18:40.920 --> 18:49.440 has a bioterror weapon engineered pure and cleavage site from a bacteria, but spike 18:49.440 --> 18:51.280 protein. 18:51.280 --> 18:59.280 And we are seemingly living the plot of a Tom Clancy book called Rainbow Six, where 18:59.280 --> 19:04.120 a alleged virus is released into the Olympic Games to spread around the world and the 19:04.120 --> 19:05.120 vaccine. 19:05.120 --> 19:10.080 It's worse than the virus that he populated the Earth by radical environmentalists in the 19:10.080 --> 19:13.980 name of climate change. 19:13.980 --> 19:24.480 My question has to deal with how we prove, or first getting immunity, and if you can 19:24.480 --> 19:32.400 address NK and T cell immunity as good immunity versus IgG immunity as bad immunity that they 19:32.400 --> 19:37.920 are at CDC and everybody is measuring right now, and if you can address the different 19:37.920 --> 19:43.880 types of spike protein, meaning the first spike protein is the one that was transmitted 19:43.880 --> 19:53.880 by computer from Wuhan, allegedly, number two, the spike protein that was allegedly engineered 19:53.880 --> 20:02.840 by Jason McClellan using proline restraints, six proline restraints, and I emailed you 20:02.840 --> 20:14.440 a video of his presentation and how that spike protein goes into cells. 20:14.440 --> 20:21.840 And number three, the spike proteins that are allegedly made by the DNA contaminants 20:21.840 --> 20:31.120 that seem to be correlating very well with the dangerous lot numbers or batch numbers 20:31.120 --> 20:33.760 and how bad is my back. 20:33.760 --> 20:35.760 Thank you. 20:35.760 --> 20:39.920 T cell immunity and natural killer cell immunity is complicated and we don't know a lot about 20:39.920 --> 20:48.040 it, but I can generalize to say that in my last three years of reading, it seems apparent 20:48.040 --> 20:54.080 from the primary literature that T cell immunity is formed to proteins that are conserved 20:54.080 --> 20:56.840 across a wide variety of viruses. 20:56.840 --> 21:00.720 One of the most conserved proteins would be these proteins that are in the replication 21:00.720 --> 21:06.720 transcription complex, and those proteins are highly conserved across all of these supposed 21:06.720 --> 21:07.920 variants of SARS. 21:07.920 --> 21:12.040 That's why they only show you the spike protein and only talk about that because of the other 21:12.040 --> 21:17.280 30 proteins that are in the coronavirus, they don't seem to be changing and they don't care. 21:17.280 --> 21:22.280 So that's already an obvious tell that this narrative about the spike protein is really 21:22.280 --> 21:27.840 not biologically plausible because you have other people saying that the spike protein 21:27.840 --> 21:32.120 is the only protein that matters or the only one that's changing and that's just not plausible 21:32.120 --> 21:35.440 given the way that we know RNA is copied. 21:35.440 --> 21:41.520 So I would suggest to you that T cells that are relevant for any of these RNA signals 21:41.520 --> 21:46.680 are going to be primarily aimed at RNA dependent RNA polymerase or accessory proteins that are 21:46.680 --> 21:48.560 common across these viruses. 21:48.560 --> 21:53.800 Another common one is actually the N protein because it is around the N protein that this 21:53.840 --> 21:59.680 RNA is coiled and so you can't really vary that protein too much and then get packaging 21:59.680 --> 22:02.240 to go well, at least in their cartoons. 22:02.240 --> 22:07.720 So that is another gene that they have looked at in the past as a general indicator of coronavirus 22:07.720 --> 22:13.560 presence and now they have obfuscated this idea to say that this N protein can be used 22:13.560 --> 22:16.280 to identify a particular coronavirus. 22:16.280 --> 22:20.840 And it's up to molecular biologists to judge whether that's true or not, but the vast majority 22:20.880 --> 22:27.880 of these PCR's are not using nested primers and so there's a certain level of accuracy 22:27.880 --> 22:33.640 that's just not possible that a lot of academic biologists assume is there. 22:33.640 --> 22:37.600 If you want me to give you that little briefing and I've never really done it before, but 22:37.600 --> 22:41.400 I think it's a good idea to try and do it here because you asked the question. 22:41.400 --> 22:46.680 When you amplify the whole virus genome, it's a very long genome and you actually are usually 22:46.680 --> 22:48.760 sorry I'm bumping my camera there. 22:48.760 --> 22:53.240 You usually are looking for like a very small amplicon. 22:53.240 --> 23:00.200 This amplicon might be only 300 bases long, whereas the whole genome is 30,000 bases long. 23:00.200 --> 23:01.880 And so you might look for two amplicons. 23:01.880 --> 23:07.040 You might look for a spike protein amplicon and RNA dependent polymerase amplicon and 23:07.040 --> 23:15.960 then this would have been in the old days pre-2020, pre-2020, dang it, I keep hitting my camera. 23:15.960 --> 23:18.120 This would have been a any coronavirus. 23:18.120 --> 23:22.560 You would have used protein, you would have used PCR to find two small fragments and then 23:22.560 --> 23:26.640 you would have used metagenomic sequencing to amplify everything in the sample and then 23:26.640 --> 23:30.880 use a algorithm to see if there was a full coronavirus genome. 23:30.880 --> 23:35.760 Most of the time you wouldn't find a full genome and so instead you would just replace 23:35.760 --> 23:39.880 the genes you didn't find with genes that you found in the literature and then you would 23:39.880 --> 23:44.640 make a DNA clone of this sequence that you purported to have found in nature. 23:44.640 --> 23:48.800 After 2020 they've been doing the same thing where they first said that we're going 23:48.800 --> 23:52.000 to look for a small amplicon in the spike protein and we're going to look for a small 23:52.000 --> 23:58.920 amplicon in the RNA dependent RNA polymerase and then at some moment in time they changed 23:58.920 --> 24:02.560 what they're looking at and now they're looking at N protein which is even farther out here 24:02.560 --> 24:03.560 on the genome. 24:03.560 --> 24:04.560 It doesn't really matter. 24:04.560 --> 24:08.320 This is N, this is S, this would be ORF1. 24:08.320 --> 24:13.880 The point is that when they look for these amplicons they're finding a very small signal 24:13.880 --> 24:20.120 and the best analogy that I can come up with would be to say that the local library got 24:20.120 --> 24:25.800 blown up by a bomb and none of the books got burnt but they all got blown into a million 24:25.800 --> 24:34.800 pieces and so I think that you, Jim, you've written a yoga book and I have primers that 24:34.800 --> 24:39.960 can find the sentences of your yoga book and if I find the sentences that correspond 24:39.960 --> 24:43.080 to your yoga book I can prove to you that you wrote a yoga book you didn't even know 24:43.080 --> 24:48.040 you wrote and so I look for a few sentences that are pretty common across a lot of books 24:48.040 --> 24:57.320 like the following is an explanation of or an alternative way of doing this would be 24:57.320 --> 25:01.200 and then I claim that this is very specific for your book, I mean look it's right here 25:01.200 --> 25:07.080 on page 67 it's really your book and then I find that signal in the burnt exploded library 25:07.080 --> 25:12.240 and I say look Jim you wrote a book and that's very similar to how they've found coronaviruses 25:12.240 --> 25:17.160 in the past they look for signals and they find a very short portion that is thought to 25:17.160 --> 25:23.160 be shared across many coronaviruses and then they look for the whole book in this pile of 25:23.160 --> 25:28.560 words and it's very easy to assemble the whole yoga book if you can use all the words in an 25:28.560 --> 25:34.480 exploded dictionary or an exploded library and it's hard for us to know as biologists 25:34.480 --> 25:41.200 what signals are actually there at this size scale because the only way we have to probe 25:41.200 --> 25:46.160 it is with PCR so you'll almost have to know what you're looking for before you look for it 25:46.160 --> 25:50.480 and then when you look for it you won't know if it was there for real or if it was just a sentence 25:50.480 --> 25:56.080 from another book and the most important thing to see here is that in biology we're not using 25:56.800 --> 26:01.600 a dictionary that's got 10 million words in it and we're not using words that are spelled with lots 26:01.600 --> 26:06.960 of different letters we're using a limited number of bases that code for a limited number of codons 26:06.960 --> 26:13.200 which code for a limited number of amino acids so the shorter you choose the amplicon to seek 26:13.760 --> 26:17.360 the more likely it is that you're going to find a signal that's not related to what you thought 26:17.360 --> 26:22.000 you were i.e if you look for once upon a time you're going to find a lot of signals in that 26:22.000 --> 26:27.920 blown up library and so to get back to your question to make sure I don't lose my track of my thought 26:27.920 --> 26:34.720 here the spike in Wuhan is actually a I'm going to cut back over here I apologize for this I'm 26:34.800 --> 26:39.120 just going to do it quick like this um the spike in Wuhan what that's this camera 26:39.120 --> 26:48.000 spike in Wuhan is a construct that was made like this it was made with an assembly and my question 26:48.000 --> 26:54.880 would be in terms of the clone is that um keep in mind this has to do with vaccines and it has to 26:54.880 --> 27:00.640 do with converting us I apologize for this long answer but I hope it's good and converting us to 27:00.640 --> 27:07.200 believe that the previous combination of substances which we injected to augment your immune system 27:07.200 --> 27:13.280 is not as good as the current new combination of substances that we augment your immune system with 27:13.280 --> 27:20.960 and the way that they fooled you with that is they probably put this spike protein that they 27:20.960 --> 27:26.800 wanted to inject to you into these places and that's what I think you're hinting at is that 27:26.800 --> 27:32.880 the design is not only the pro leans to to keep it from being able to change confirmation 27:32.880 --> 27:39.680 the design probably was the insertion of small epitopes that companies like epivacs and other 27:39.680 --> 27:46.480 companies have been working on for decades to try and find ways to make proteins that your immune 27:46.480 --> 27:52.720 system ignores into proteins that your immune system pays attention to because the current way 27:52.720 --> 27:56.960 or the old school way that you do that is that you take a recombinant protein that you made in a 27:56.960 --> 28:02.000 laboratory and you inject it into the muscle of a child in combination with heavy metals or other 28:02.000 --> 28:07.360 toxins and those toxins attract the attention of the immune system and macrophages and they try to 28:07.360 --> 28:14.160 process this garbage and one of the arguments is that that that the processing of that toxin 28:14.160 --> 28:19.840 also causes the processing of those proteins and then you develop antibody immunity to those 28:19.920 --> 28:23.920 proteins that you made the trouble is is that your immune system is learning to respond to 28:23.920 --> 28:29.440 something on the inside now and so the antibodies that you make are on the inside the T cells that 28:29.440 --> 28:34.720 you made are not are not to anything other than those proteins and when those proteins aren't 28:34.720 --> 28:41.040 around those T cells don't have anything to do and the the trick here with I'm just going to 28:41.040 --> 28:44.800 keep talking because I think this is all really good stuff that probably you don't hear very 28:44.800 --> 28:49.360 often um the other thing to keep in mind is that there's two different mechanisms that are going 28:49.360 --> 28:57.680 on here with regard to the the immunity so when a virus is replicating in your cells 28:57.680 --> 29:04.320 or when your cells are transfected the main thing to realize is that there is a molecule called 29:04.880 --> 29:08.240 I'm drawing it in the wrong shape because this is like the shape of an antibody but it shouldn't 29:08.240 --> 29:14.320 be really in the shape of antibody I apologize but it's a it's a it's a molecule that can present 29:14.400 --> 29:20.080 other molecules and this molecule is called MHC there are two different kinds MHC one and MHC 29:20.080 --> 29:25.520 two that I don't want to confuse you with just understand that when your cells are making stuff 29:26.400 --> 29:32.080 they need to report what they're making on the outside by presenting small fragments to the 29:32.080 --> 29:37.680 immune system and so there are T cells that are patrolling your immune system all the time and 29:37.680 --> 29:43.600 checking that like a little bouncer checking to see that the ID on this cells okay are you guys 29:43.600 --> 29:48.720 cancer cells are you doing what you're supposed to do and making act in and other things and so 29:48.720 --> 29:54.480 there are natural killer cells and there are T cells that are doing this check that are seeing 29:54.480 --> 30:00.640 what on the major histocompatibility complex is being presented and whether that jives 30:00.640 --> 30:05.680 with the other signals that are present on that cell and so that the immune system can confirm 30:05.680 --> 30:12.400 that this cell is doing what it's supposed to do when a cell is is producing virus the idea is 30:12.480 --> 30:17.280 is that on the MHC molecule there will be viral proteins presented that the T cells can recognize 30:17.280 --> 30:25.680 and come and destroy this cell before it's able to release full variants and of course the earlier 30:25.680 --> 30:31.440 that protein is expressed on MHC the better chance we have if you recall that cartoon we looked at 30:31.440 --> 30:36.400 an hour ago the first proteins that are expressed during coronavirus infection according to the 30:36.400 --> 30:43.200 scientists are these replicase transcription complex proteins so if those are presented 30:43.200 --> 30:47.840 and they are shared across a number of these viral species then this would be the way that 30:47.840 --> 30:53.600 T cells would be activated and have nothing absolutely nothing to do with the spike protein 30:53.600 --> 31:00.160 which would be necessarily expressed later and also because of the nature of the way it is it's 31:00.160 --> 31:05.360 going to be on the outside of the cell not presented on MHC but on the outside of the cell 31:05.360 --> 31:10.000 which is a very different signal now this is the worst part when we transfect a cell 31:11.440 --> 31:17.440 the MHC is not going to be presenting in the same way because there's all these antiviral 31:17.440 --> 31:24.160 things are not activated because they've chemically altered the RNA to make it invisible to our cells 31:24.160 --> 31:30.880 internal machinery it just it sits there and it's there for a long time and it expresses 31:30.960 --> 31:36.080 the spike protein on the outside of the body or outside of the cell and it expresses small 31:36.080 --> 31:42.800 fragments of the spike protein on MHC this is a problem because if the body doesn't can't tell 31:42.800 --> 31:47.360 the difference it's going to destroy this cell and then it's going to try and process it 31:48.320 --> 31:52.480 and every time it does that there's a potential that it's going to process something of its own 31:52.480 --> 31:58.880 and it's going to cause autoimmunity that's less likely to occur in an infection because that 31:58.880 --> 32:05.280 infection is occurring at a barrier cells that are patrolled regularly by the immune system like 32:05.280 --> 32:11.280 epithelial cells the orientation of the immune system is oriented around patrolling those cells 32:11.280 --> 32:17.280 if you transfect someone and that lmp goes anywhere in the body then cells are going to be doing 32:18.160 --> 32:22.720 they're going to be presenting bad proteins that normally the immune system does not expect them 32:22.720 --> 32:29.600 to express bad proteins not as an expressed the proteins that that infection vulnerable 32:29.600 --> 32:35.120 barrier cells are expressing and so this is a whole different task for the immune system to 32:35.120 --> 32:41.760 sort out and so your question of spike in Wuhan is so important because the idea for me would be 32:41.760 --> 32:48.000 that if you really wanted to pull off this this show and make sure that the entire earth thought 32:48.000 --> 32:53.920 that transfection was pretty effective you better choose a protein that your body won't 32:53.920 --> 32:59.760 ignore you better choose a protein that after the fourth transfection you still get a bump 33:00.320 --> 33:07.120 in antibody response and that's not guaranteed for every protein in fact most proteins without 33:07.120 --> 33:14.080 any alteration your body would be would would build tolerance to very very very quickly and so 33:14.080 --> 33:19.360 it's very striking that even from the fourth transfection people are still building a noticeable 33:19.360 --> 33:26.800 bump of of of antibody seroprevalence that's very dangerous and it's dangerous because again this 33:26.800 --> 33:33.680 this attack it should not be blood based so there's no reason to have a preponderance of IgG 33:33.680 --> 33:39.120 antibodies you want to have T cells that are eliminating viral infection before it starts in 33:39.200 --> 33:45.200 the cells where viral expect viral expression is supposed to be so this whole engineering of the 33:45.200 --> 33:51.840 spike protein may have even been kind of a red herring to make you confused about the fact that 33:51.840 --> 33:56.720 okay what's the dangerous part about this spike and thinking about whether they have 33:56.720 --> 34:02.160 eliminated the dangerous part of the spike or not when in reality it is the transfection of 34:02.160 --> 34:08.080 your cells and the randomness of it that leads to the dangers rather than any particular aspect 34:08.080 --> 34:14.000 of the transfection in general and then if I go all the way to the double-stranded DNA question 34:14.640 --> 34:19.520 it's not that I don't think the double-stranded DNA packaged in a lipid nanoparticle or not wouldn't 34:19.520 --> 34:25.120 be dangerous I think it's probably pretty dangerous that's why they keep it out of all biologics using 34:25.120 --> 34:32.080 anion chromatography to remove it from monoclonal antibodies for example there's no DNA allowed 34:32.080 --> 34:37.680 in a protein biologic none if you have DNA in it it will be canceled that lot will be destroyed 34:37.760 --> 34:43.200 so this is an extra interesting aspect of making RNA because you can't use the normal 34:43.200 --> 34:48.320 procedures the accepted gold standard to get rid of the contamination because you can't separate 34:48.320 --> 34:53.760 RNA and DNA very easily so that's another tricky thing that they just completely ignored as they 34:53.760 --> 34:59.680 rolled out this transfection and then conveniently brought it up as a problem only afterward we rushed 34:59.680 --> 35:03.600 it we didn't know we should have used better methodologies we shouldn't have made such big 35:03.600 --> 35:09.440 batches all of these are excuses to make you think that transfection could be good if they 35:09.440 --> 35:15.120 had done it right and that I have been saying is a lie for at least three years if not four it was 35:15.120 --> 35:20.160 the only thing I could see through from the very beginning that they were confounding this narrative 35:20.160 --> 35:24.480 of oh my gosh we chose the wrong spike and the spike was gained a function now it's even worse 35:25.200 --> 35:30.400 and that was all just uh that's just all uh an act to make you think that transfection could be 35:30.400 --> 35:36.480 good if they just got their act together holy cow I hope I answered something yeah well you took 35:36.480 --> 35:42.400 uh Jay Jay thanks very much but 20 minutes and you got six hands up and we're finishing in half 35:42.400 --> 35:51.680 an hour so you better handle it okay faster next time yes so jerry hi Jay Jay hello my favorite 35:51.680 --> 36:01.120 one here a stroke off GP from Ireland and our suspended GP from Ireland I've still suspended 36:01.120 --> 36:07.440 temporarily and three years ago the the you just talked to Steve and there about you know I don't 36:07.440 --> 36:10.640 know I don't I don't want to waste your time but you're talking about Steve to Steve and it's 36:10.640 --> 36:15.680 sort of been caught and been fooled it was all about perspective it's it's a perspective of the 36:16.240 --> 36:20.880 observer I as a GP could see there was no illness there was no major illness in the community there 36:20.880 --> 36:27.040 were no people dying of covid so it's very very easy for me to cop on to that the fact that covid 36:27.040 --> 36:33.280 was a hoax and that that in effect that you know it didn't smell right and the uh then to look at 36:33.280 --> 36:39.280 the PCR test you know it's quite obvious that it it really couldn't diagnose covid or a a a 36:39.280 --> 36:47.280 pathogen as such but what I what I'd like to ask you but you used to work clone you know surely all 36:47.280 --> 36:52.800 viruses are clones in the sense they're an exact an exact replica of you know the in the absence of 36:52.800 --> 37:00.080 our asexual reproduction but they are a clone so I just like to elucidate your use of the word 37:00.080 --> 37:04.400 clone sure you know I'll try and draw a little picture of it because I think it's important 37:04.400 --> 37:10.560 and a lot of people are asking that question so it's good so I think where I would like to go with 37:10.560 --> 37:16.080 this is just to draw a little cartoon about how it's done so when you when you copy DNA 37:17.520 --> 37:23.760 um the DNA strand opens up right and then it comes back together as it's copied and that coming back 37:23.760 --> 37:32.160 together can reveal mismatched bases and because of the nature of copying DNA there are actually 37:32.160 --> 37:39.680 accessory proteins that are accessory to the main protein the RNA polymerase there are accessory 37:39.680 --> 37:44.320 proteins that can proofread and correct the mismatched bases that are here and that's well 37:44.320 --> 37:52.320 known DNA replication in bacteria is very high fidelity but in the cartoon of a viral replication 37:52.320 --> 37:59.840 you have a single stranded RNA that is copied by an RNA dependent RNA polymerase and that copying 37:59.840 --> 38:04.960 is definitely not high fidelity and even though they claim that there are accessory proteins that 38:04.960 --> 38:13.760 can increase the fidelity the the error rate is real and so when you copy a 30 000 base pair RNA 38:13.760 --> 38:21.120 it is by necessity according to most virologists you will make three errors you can't you cannot 38:21.120 --> 38:27.520 it is not possible to use an RNA dependent polymerase and copy 30 000 bases perfectly you can do that 38:27.520 --> 38:34.240 with DNA because there's a proofreading step that corrects so not only does this is this is this 38:34.240 --> 38:42.720 enzyme the DNA polymerase is that not only is that enzyme known to be orders of magnitude higher 38:42.800 --> 38:48.480 fidelity but it's known to have accessory proteins that are orders of magnitude higher fidelity 38:48.480 --> 38:56.320 and it's all dependent on this double stranded model and that's absent in all RNA viruses 38:56.320 --> 39:00.560 because they're all single stranded it's either there are a couple double stranded RNA viruses 39:00.560 --> 39:04.720 i should be careful but most of them are negative or positive strand and positive strand means 39:04.720 --> 39:09.360 that they can be translated directly into protein negative means they have to have their own enzyme 39:09.360 --> 39:15.600 to do that translation so flu and measles need their own enzyme aids needs its own enzyme 39:15.600 --> 39:20.800 but coronaviruses are special they don't because they're positive stranded RNAs they can be translated 39:20.800 --> 39:26.400 directly into proteins and one of those proteins that they need to translate right away is the 39:26.400 --> 39:33.840 RNA dependent RNA polymerase before they can ever copy themselves and so the reason why i would 39:33.840 --> 39:40.400 argue that these viruses if they exist at all are so difficult to culture for example 39:40.400 --> 39:46.720 they might do a 96 well plate preparation from a bat and only two cells will show 39:46.720 --> 39:52.240 cytopathic effects and only two cells will be PCR positive and they can't culture from that 39:52.240 --> 39:57.840 they can only sequence and then the way they overcome it is they take the sequence that they 39:57.840 --> 40:05.120 find in their laboratory and they convert it to a DNA molecule and the reason why this is important 40:05.120 --> 40:09.840 Jerry is because they can make as much of this DNA as they want they can make a truckload of it 40:09.840 --> 40:15.280 like a literal tanker truck full of almost perfect copies of this consensus genome 40:15.840 --> 40:23.680 and then because commercial products exist like t7 RNA polymerase they can convert that DNA 40:23.680 --> 40:32.400 to a perfect copy of the genome and that perfect copy of the genome in that quantity a truckload 40:32.400 --> 40:40.640 cannot exist in any bat or in any any bat cave or any any any community of animals because 40:40.640 --> 40:46.800 those RNA molecules are by definition all different because they've all been copied by RNA polymerase 40:46.800 --> 40:53.360 and therefore none of them are the same and so i can create a purity of RNA using this cloning 40:53.440 --> 40:59.040 technique that no matter what culturing techniques no matter how sick the animal is no matter how 40:59.040 --> 41:04.880 virulent the virus is by definition none of the RNA molecules can be the same and this is the 41:04.880 --> 41:11.200 illusion that they have told us when if an RNA molecule goes in a million different different 41:11.200 --> 41:16.960 directions on earth but all of those RNA molecules just happen to random walk to delta and then random 41:16.960 --> 41:24.960 walk to to to omicron this is there there are no evolutionary mechanisms inside of an RNA molecule 41:24.960 --> 41:32.800 coded and lipid and lipid protein to to account for these directional moves it's just not possible 41:32.800 --> 41:38.480 because the fundamental randomness of of this process and it's this process that they most 41:38.480 --> 41:45.120 don't want us to talk about because it it undermines the whole concept of it's still going it's still 41:45.120 --> 41:50.480 going because it can't be and it's much more likely the case that if there is a real 41:51.520 --> 41:54.640 bonafide signal that it's just a signal that was always there 41:56.800 --> 42:00.880 and that that's the best i can do for for pencil drawing but anyway 42:03.760 --> 42:05.280 you're muted again Jerry sorry 42:10.000 --> 42:14.880 that's unusual for me i'm not usually muted and at one stage you said 42:14.880 --> 42:23.760 they're getting close to it what was it was it a call a depopulation no you were done to say 42:23.760 --> 42:31.600 it was transhumanism in our children or grandchildren i looked and lived come to the idea the conclusion 42:31.600 --> 42:38.240 that in effect the vaccinations were about a a call or a depopulation 42:39.120 --> 42:47.840 uh efforts rather than just uh totality and control would you agree or disagree with that um 42:49.440 --> 42:56.800 i mean i i i hesitate to say that they would they would they would make any moves to prevent 42:56.800 --> 43:03.600 that but i do think that there is a there is a real multi-generational move here with the idea of 43:03.680 --> 43:11.760 getting the our children to accept a different way of governance and and so i do think that this 43:11.760 --> 43:16.160 is a long move and so they're never going to convince us that the vaccine schedule is good they just 43:16.160 --> 43:20.960 need us to shut up long enough so that the college kids accept it and they give it to their kids and 43:20.960 --> 43:27.440 so it is a we're also in a very weird state right now Jerry because it's very hard for us in this 43:27.440 --> 43:32.400 group to know how far our message is going because it often just echoes off of people that we already 43:32.400 --> 43:37.680 know are following us and so it's very possible that we're reaching farther and we're not allowed 43:37.680 --> 43:41.200 to see it it's also very possible that we're not getting anywhere and we're just running in a 43:41.200 --> 43:47.680 wheel so i'm i'm optimistic um because this group expands but i'm still very pessimistic because 43:47.680 --> 43:55.520 we are up against a monster for sure thank you jane jane you're very well okay thanks i still 43:55.680 --> 44:01.520 wait thanks thank you jerry keep riding that motorbike around ireland windy you're next 44:05.840 --> 44:09.760 hi there um thanks so much for that presentation i always love listening to you 44:10.320 --> 44:20.240 um my question i'm very interested in the dna contamination and so what you're talking about 44:20.240 --> 44:26.320 with kevin mccurnan i'm curious about the plasmid i'm curious about the dna fragments 44:27.040 --> 44:38.080 and the open reading frames um so it's been um published by kevin mccurnan david speaker and 44:38.080 --> 44:44.000 just garroes they wrote a paper looking at the sequences in the plasmid and it looks like 44:44.000 --> 44:51.280 there was a reverse open reading frame that was also a jean that seems to be a spider silk 44:51.280 --> 44:58.720 jean and i'm curious about this because of the fact that the embolomers have been fighting these 44:58.720 --> 45:05.280 weird slots in blood vessels there's weird fibers that people are seeing in blood samples in the 45:05.280 --> 45:14.320 microscope and there's also now coming about people that have weird clot kinds of things in 45:14.320 --> 45:20.560 their large intestine that they're kind of grouping out when they do parasitic cleanses that look 45:20.560 --> 45:30.480 strangely like the embolmer clots and it seems that there's silk proteins in those clots so i'm curious 45:30.560 --> 45:38.320 about your thoughts on that are those dna fragments you know i know you said that any dna 45:38.320 --> 45:42.720 getting in can be potentially bad and especially if dna fragments get in and interrupt other 45:42.720 --> 45:49.280 genes it could be contributing to the turbo cancer stuff um but if pieces of these open 45:49.280 --> 45:54.240 reading frames are getting in and making spider silk proteins i'm just curious about your thoughts 45:55.120 --> 46:01.360 um wow i hadn't heard that before um i have to look that up um the 46:03.760 --> 46:13.120 i would be i would be i would be first very careful to fully rule out the possibility that 46:13.120 --> 46:19.680 endothelial cells are being destroyed by by neutrophils and being cleaned up and when they are 46:19.760 --> 46:26.400 cleaned up there is a process of of fibrinogen being produced or fibrin being produced i get those 46:26.400 --> 46:30.480 two mixed up which ones the breakdown and which ones the not but there is an enzyme that comes 46:30.480 --> 46:39.120 along um neutrophil elastase that destroys these these and these um endothelial cells and in the 46:39.120 --> 46:44.640 process of doing that there are clotting factors that are produced there there there things that 46:44.640 --> 46:50.800 happen that can result in this micro clotting and it's not clear to me i don't know if if this 46:50.800 --> 46:55.120 would be i would soon be related to the stuff that secret bhakti has worked on and all these 46:55.120 --> 47:02.560 embalmers have worked on i just don't i would caution you to realize that the fibrinogen fibrin 47:03.280 --> 47:10.960 clotting cascade that has been described by these people has no special biology and it is just how 47:11.040 --> 47:16.400 antibodies and how clotting and how platelets and how this might cascade out of control 47:16.400 --> 47:22.400 and so adding a silk protein to that could be potentially something that could be later debunked 47:22.400 --> 47:28.560 or something that could be disproven when in reality it's it's a criminal investigation we 47:28.560 --> 47:34.880 don't have to prove where these clots are coming from in order to call it a crime and so i would 47:34.880 --> 47:40.800 always encourage you not to get too deep into the minutia of the explanation in this case 47:40.800 --> 47:46.720 it's very enticing to think about that but i would say that sv40 as a sequence might be more 47:46.720 --> 47:52.240 interesting than silk protein because again if it's silk protein it should be very very simple 47:52.240 --> 47:58.480 to prove it um this the the protein should be very obviously not fibrinogen or not fibrin 47:58.480 --> 48:05.840 fibrin base so if there's a so yeah and apparently it it is obviously no fibrin so all of that has 48:05.840 --> 48:11.840 been looked at i appreciate all of those thoughts okay so kevin mccurnan and now that i know more 48:11.840 --> 48:17.840 about your thoughts about him he has sequenced that reverse open reading frame in the plasmids 48:17.840 --> 48:23.680 that are contaminating the vaccines i can paste the paper that was published in the chat 48:24.160 --> 48:31.280 sure um and then you can read that paper sure please do it's um it's cold 48:33.040 --> 48:37.280 the um other thing that i would just talk about while you're putting this in there is that one of 48:37.280 --> 48:42.560 the things that i think is very much overlooked is what happens to the lipid nanoparticle after it 48:42.560 --> 48:48.720 gets released in the endosome so there's a very um good presentation by i believe a spanish guy 48:48.720 --> 48:54.640 with the last name of segela or or something where i've seen where he shows very definitively 48:54.640 --> 48:59.920 that the chemical properties of the lipid nanoparticles the cationic lipids that are used to 48:59.920 --> 49:07.040 transport the RNA once they are internalized into the endosome and they get into this lower pH of 49:07.040 --> 49:14.560 the endosome they change into very corrosive cationic lipids that can go around and and 49:14.560 --> 49:20.320 essentially create reactive oxygen species and destroy um mitochondrial DNA or even if they 49:20.320 --> 49:25.760 get into the nucleus they could destroy nuclear DNA and these this aspect of the delivery mechanism 49:25.760 --> 49:30.240 is completely ignored because they they don't want you to think about them after they've delivered 49:30.240 --> 49:35.840 their RNA when they change their chemical properties quite a bit after reaching the pH of the cell 49:35.840 --> 49:42.080 internally and so that aspect of this is also something that i think there's a concerted effort 49:42.080 --> 49:47.600 to hide and so any discussion of relevance with regard to the lipid nanoparticles often 49:47.600 --> 49:52.480 obfuscated by somebody who doesn't know what they're talking about and so this i'm not saying that 49:52.480 --> 49:56.640 they're telling this silk protein story for that reason but i do think we have to be very careful 49:56.640 --> 50:02.080 about latching on to these hyper detailed explanations that we don't need did you put that in the chat 50:03.920 --> 50:08.960 yes um so i will find it in a second but yeah i would really like you to look at the plasmid 50:08.960 --> 50:17.840 sequence and that reverse open reading frame silk protein and if that fragment can get into 50:17.840 --> 50:26.480 people um why are they putting spider silk in people and you know maybe the next time you do a talk 50:26.480 --> 50:31.360 you'll talk about that well hopefully i'll be able to tell you exactly why it's crazy but 50:31.440 --> 50:37.200 maybe not okay yeah that's great thanks thank you windy 50:38.320 --> 50:48.720 el berto lovely to see you uh jj thank you um uh you know two two camps seem to be emerging on 50:48.720 --> 50:59.520 our side of the aisle and the camps um are the the pro-vax people but just not pro this vax and then 50:59.520 --> 51:09.200 the pure true anti-vax camp and to say that you know i think this jab is bad i think uh the whole 51:09.200 --> 51:18.000 jab the all the history of jabs were bad and i think that's easy to see um when we're you know 51:18.000 --> 51:22.720 when we're paying attention to what people are saying because i always said like beware of the 51:22.800 --> 51:30.800 person that wants to fix the formula or improve the formula for the you know for the for the future 51:31.440 --> 51:38.320 um so thank you for that for for kind of slowly this is the layers are getting peeled back and 51:38.320 --> 51:45.840 and that's being revealed which camp people are in um the the the question that i had though was 51:45.840 --> 51:52.400 in yesterday's in your yesterday's podcast you kind of went into the details about um 51:52.480 --> 51:59.280 getting laid off of uh for children's health defense and i'm sorry to to hear that um you 51:59.280 --> 52:07.360 had said that there was a uh mccernan uh did a podcast with two chd people and because of that 52:08.000 --> 52:14.400 you know you slightly criticized or debated or some some to critique it but you got reprimanded 52:14.400 --> 52:20.160 for that from the children's health defense people behind the scenes and somehow that you 52:20.160 --> 52:28.640 feel may have caused your uh layoff or something do you um know what the time frame of that with 52:28.640 --> 52:34.320 how do i how do i find that uh that video where mccernan um i would have to look on my chat so it 52:34.320 --> 52:43.280 was a little it was a little wild before i did it but he had gone on um brian hookers podcast um 52:43.360 --> 52:50.400 doctors and scientists and when he was on that podcast actually mary holland joined him and so 52:50.400 --> 52:56.800 what i did was watch that podcast and critique what kevin was saying and uh i pointed out that i 52:56.800 --> 53:03.360 thought that maybe um mary and brian weren't really aware of what he was what he was skipping or what 53:03.360 --> 53:09.440 he wasn't pointing out and how much more there was to talk about um and the way that i got reprimanded 53:09.440 --> 53:14.000 was that they just didn't want me to cover that kind of thing they didn't want me to redo podcasts 53:14.000 --> 53:18.320 so it wasn't necessarily that they didn't say that kevin's a good guy and you shouldn't pick on 53:18.320 --> 53:25.840 them they didn't want me to critique um to risk portraying uh uh some kind of you know not not a 53:25.840 --> 53:30.960 uniform front for chd and i understand that i mean i was working for them as a staff scientist and 53:30.960 --> 53:36.720 then to go on my podcast and have the president and and the the chief science officer on there and 53:37.440 --> 53:42.480 and not necessarily i don't think i said anything wrong but it would be very easy for for someone 53:42.480 --> 53:45.840 outside of the organization to say hey it looks like they don't agree on everything what the 53:45.840 --> 53:50.960 hell's going on and so that's what i got reprimanded for i don't didn't want to say that that kevin was 53:50.960 --> 53:59.120 involved but it was how that started um let's say like that why don't put uh anybody on on a pedestal 53:59.120 --> 54:04.640 and uh and that goes for uh for bobby kennedy i know you no longer work for him and and hey i'll 54:04.640 --> 54:09.840 i might still vote for bobby um you know i for the most part i mean i like him 54:09.840 --> 54:15.520 but i also know that that he knows that vares doesn't publish all legitimate reports received 54:15.520 --> 54:23.040 and then i and i wonder like why aren't you really clamping down on that one um but uh needless to 54:23.040 --> 54:31.120 say i really appreciate that you um your search for the truth and um you know not being afraid to 54:31.840 --> 54:37.040 um investigate under every rock i appreciate you jr thank you so much you're very welcome 54:37.040 --> 54:42.800 albert thank you thank you albert now everybody i've got an interesting breaking story relevant 54:42.800 --> 54:51.200 to what we're talking about and this just came in so jj very relevant to your comment on lawyers 54:52.560 --> 54:58.560 and here it is justentrudo fails as justice pre-vales federal court and candidate the 54:58.560 --> 55:03.280 declares prime mr truto actually outside of his legal authority when it took unreasonable 55:03.280 --> 55:09.760 and constitutional measures against the canadian truckers so can federal court in canada has 55:09.760 --> 55:14.320 just ruled in favor of applicants who filed an application against truto for unreasonably 55:14.320 --> 55:20.720 and unconstitutional measures so that's one of many cases that are happening and it's quite 55:20.720 --> 55:28.400 possible jj that that that judge who's shown some bravery at last he's grandchildren may well 55:28.400 --> 55:32.560 have died suddenly you never know but anyway i just bring it through his attention on a side 55:32.560 --> 55:39.120 track it but there are as one amendment hall is going to tell us in february thousands hundreds 55:39.120 --> 55:44.640 of thousands of cases in the pipeline so it's not true to say that they're not happening but it's 55:44.640 --> 55:52.000 very true to say that most big law firms do not want to attack the system because they get the 55:52.000 --> 55:59.280 bulk of their income from the system so we just that's that's our challenge um elbert thank you for that 56:00.800 --> 56:01.280 anders 56:05.760 --> 56:12.480 yes hello thank you jj it was wonderful to hear your presentation um i um 56:13.360 --> 56:20.960 was fooled like a lot of people to believe in the virus theory i must say that after last year's 56:21.680 --> 56:30.080 intense investigations uh i don't find any reason anymore to believe in the virus theory 56:30.800 --> 56:39.840 and that it is a big risk for a lot of people who are confused in that theory that this is 56:40.000 --> 56:50.560 uh correct science to present all of these modeling out of computer science that there is so and so 56:51.760 --> 57:00.800 genetic let's say footprints or what you claim i think we need to go back to real science and to 57:01.520 --> 57:08.880 go long back to the his philosophical discussion which were going on for more than 100 years ago 57:08.880 --> 57:17.040 about whether uh Lewis Pasteur was right or not but that is an in comment that is connected to 57:17.040 --> 57:27.120 my own research which have i would say conclusively come to the final conclusion that the covid 57:27.120 --> 57:36.240 so-called virus of 2020 was an invention and not the fact and that there was mortality across 57:36.320 --> 57:42.560 the western countries but that mortality was strictly connected to protocols 57:42.560 --> 57:48.960 and to the launch of 5g so so that is my general comment to it but let's say the question is 57:50.560 --> 57:57.280 how can you all or those of you continue this continue the virus theory against 57:58.640 --> 58:05.920 let's say the postulates or robert coke and all the lack of evidence that there is such a thing 58:05.920 --> 58:12.080 like a virus that is my question um i would argue that there is plenty of evidence in the 58:12.080 --> 58:21.760 literature that cells excrete small vesicles with RNA and DNA in them um i don't dispute okay and 58:21.760 --> 58:29.120 so i think that that my main argument is that they can make RNA and they can make a lot of it 58:29.680 --> 58:36.160 they can make DNA and they can make a lot of it and that means that some of the experiments that 58:36.160 --> 58:41.360 they do in the literature are definitely possible they can make enough DNA to put on a cell culture 58:41.360 --> 58:47.840 and then the cell culture will so psychopathic effects and try to copy the DNA and then afterward 58:47.840 --> 58:53.200 there might be more DNA or more RNA excuse me than when you put it in the first time but it won't be 58:53.920 --> 59:00.320 the predicted amount and assortment of RNA that the cartoon provides for it in fact they don't 59:00.320 --> 59:05.920 need it to because they use psychopathic effects to show the presence of a virus but they never 59:05.920 --> 59:12.960 then go farther than that and so i would totally agree with you that viruses are likely a phenomenon 59:12.960 --> 59:18.880 that have been exaggerated both in fidelity and its significance but i would also argue that in 59:18.880 --> 59:25.760 place of that there are technologies that are sufficiently advanced so that a DNA molecule or 59:25.760 --> 59:32.560 sequence could be planted anywhere and that RNA could be used to transfect someone and make their 59:32.560 --> 59:38.800 cells express proteins and if that's the truth which i'm sure it is because i've used these 59:38.800 --> 59:45.280 transfection agents in mice when i was an academician a biologist in medical schools i used to do 59:45.280 --> 59:51.280 these experiments where i transfected mice and so i am i am confident that if they wanted to 59:51.280 --> 59:57.680 express a protein in your lungs they could do it if they wanted to express a protein in your skin 59:57.680 --> 01:00:02.320 they could do it and i'm sure that they could express a protein in your gut if they wanted to do it 01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:08.800 and i'm sure that if they put DNA into a sewer they could use PCR to tell you they found it and so 01:00:08.800 --> 01:00:16.160 all of these very standard methodologies could be used to create the molecular biological signal 01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:22.880 that someone with a high level of sophistication but also a very high level of specialization 01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:28.240 would never be able to tell the difference between bs and truth and that is where we are and i do 01:00:28.240 --> 01:00:33.840 think that it's been going on for a long time probably since the AIDS virus was first characterized 01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:39.280 and said to be in circulation and we're probably dealing with a scenario where when they started 01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:46.880 to grow things in cell culture and then inject them into people there was uh there were problems 01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:52.960 because they couldn't detect the kind of immune signals that were present in these cell cultures 01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:59.120 and if there are immune signals that are at the same size scale as viruses then it would be very 01:00:59.120 --> 01:01:06.880 easy for a controlled discussion of this biology to result in a horrible misinterpretation of a 01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:12.640 signal that is almost exclusively endogenous as opposed to being exclusively pathogenic 01:01:12.640 --> 01:01:21.440 which is what they would like us to believe is that kind of an answer yeah thank you thank you 01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:26.640 Anders Wolfgang welcome loving to see you for those of you who don't know who he is Stephen has 01:01:26.640 --> 01:01:32.080 organized Wolfgang to be to speak just twice so far i think Wolfgang twice or three times 01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:42.880 twice twice welcome great to see you over to you i came explicitly because i heard JJ some days 01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:49.120 ago in the coronavirus and i was very fascinated about his knowledge and his interpretation of what 01:01:49.200 --> 01:01:56.880 you observed in the last years and i think i was i'm not a specialist for molecular biology 01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:03.440 but i observed the whole business of vaccination industry for many years as a as it was of a public 01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:10.880 health institution and in when when in politics too about the patent laws and all this around 01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:17.120 how they try to have have formulas where they could where they could have claims to work with 01:02:17.120 --> 01:02:22.880 to earn money with and they had their claims not only in the land they had them also in biology 01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:29.360 and they tried to shape their claims there and to give them give their claims a certain meaning 01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:33.360 that they could produce because you could only get a patent when you can use it for certain 01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:41.120 techniques you have to describe so this this it's this working out such theories that there are 01:02:41.120 --> 01:02:46.560 some molecular molecules you could do something against with the with the surgeon technology 01:02:46.560 --> 01:02:52.880 this is the basis of patent of of getting a patent and earning money with it and i think it was 01:02:53.520 --> 01:02:59.280 we are trapped for many many years i think much long it's i think it started in the in the 50s 01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:05.840 of 60s already when they were when they were trying out the first vaccinations when they were 01:03:06.640 --> 01:03:12.320 when they had the idea the pharmaceutical industry got the idea that they it's it's too 01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:17.840 it's too little business only to deal with ill people they wanted to sell something to healthy 01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:25.040 people the market is much much much bigger and this was a genius idea to tell people we can do 01:03:25.040 --> 01:03:32.240 something with your immune system and i think this was this was a fantastic idea for them 01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:38.240 and they developed it more and more and they went more and more and a granular in the granular 01:03:38.240 --> 01:03:42.720 affair they get went to molecules and they they went into the immune system they take it they 01:03:42.720 --> 01:03:49.680 invented stories which about good immune system bad immune system all such things which have 01:03:49.680 --> 01:03:56.720 nothing to do with biology which we can never understand and jj you you said it last time it was 01:03:56.720 --> 01:04:06.560 great i was fascinated they tried to to just to describe the irreducible complexity of life 01:04:06.560 --> 01:04:13.600 and they picked out something of it and they made they made narratives around it and they 01:04:13.600 --> 01:04:20.880 to sell their products and to get their patents and now they i think it's it's it's not just trying 01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:26.320 to open a new sphere of business and they can only do it with the work speed 01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:33.520 methodology because normally we should we should need some time to find out whether people get 01:04:33.520 --> 01:04:38.480 healthier or not or whether they're really protected or not have a control group or whatever it's a 01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:43.920 very very long process and then when you when you find out such things whether something is working 01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:50.400 or not it's only statistical results you don't know what happens in a certain person because 01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:54.240 this is the irreducible complexity of life that we are all different 01:04:54.880 --> 01:05:01.600 and so i think this this business what what i observed in the last year is for my for my 01:05:01.600 --> 01:05:10.240 experience now it is just that i don't advise people anymore to take any vaccine i am and it 01:05:10.240 --> 01:05:17.680 goes much further observed also the clinical studies they did and above normal some sort of drugs and 01:05:17.680 --> 01:05:22.000 how they constructed their narratives there they are constructing narratives everywhere 01:05:22.720 --> 01:05:31.760 and i think if we want to change this one very effective thing would be just to forbid patents 01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:37.360 on such things but they'll bid patents on living on everything that has to do with life 01:05:38.240 --> 01:05:46.240 and to forbid patents for drugs and drugs and i think this will solve a lot of problems 01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:53.040 and i tried to work for it in politics and i i i experienced that they certainly there was 01:05:53.040 --> 01:05:58.640 people coming to me and lobby was coming and they were really terrified when i started to to 01:05:58.640 --> 01:06:06.560 make such an initiative so i i felt that there was something very important with the patent right 01:06:06.640 --> 01:06:11.040 so this is just what i want to say and i want to i think i want to thank you very much 01:06:11.040 --> 01:06:17.760 because you JJ you you're much more strict in your in your thoughts and you're much more 01:06:18.720 --> 01:06:27.840 it's i got lost sometimes i got lost and my time got lost in molecules too and i was distracted 01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:33.920 very often too and they made it very well but the more they did it and they more they the more we 01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:40.240 find out that oh again you were trapped again you were treated or you were treated 01:06:40.240 --> 01:06:46.000 and the better it will so we learn that we are treated and this is a very interesting 01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:52.240 process which made perhaps lead to some some improvement in living together in this 01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:58.880 yeah in reducible society complex society thank you very much i think it's a great 01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:03.280 comment i just want to follow up by saying you might not be aware of it but in the United States 01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:10.480 right before the pandemic there was a supreme court decision which basically decided that all 01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:17.280 intellectual property of of monoclonal antibodies was based on bad science and they actually 01:07:18.720 --> 01:07:24.080 decided to say that the intellectual property of antibodies was based on a formula that had 01:07:24.080 --> 01:07:29.360 been repeated so often that it had no relevance anymore and one of the things they talked about 01:07:30.080 --> 01:07:35.040 was that the claim of monoclonal antibodies is that it's a single molecule when in reality 01:07:35.040 --> 01:07:39.760 it's a it's not a single molecule at all and depending on which animal produces it's going to be of 01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:46.080 it's as many variations as possible the kinds of motifs that are created and so they portrayed 01:07:46.080 --> 01:07:52.880 a level of fidelity in creation that wasn't there and the supreme court basically took a 01:07:53.680 --> 01:07:59.840 a whole field of intellectual property that was the basis for a lot of of pharmaceutical value 01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:05.440 pharmaceutical company value and made it very shaky ground right before the pandemic as to 01:08:05.440 --> 01:08:10.880 whether or not you would even be able to to patent an antibody in the traditional manner 01:08:10.880 --> 01:08:15.840 and so one of the things this was actually all discovered by a friend of mine mark kulak of 01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:21.840 a heucetonic live um who just lost his youtube channel yesterday um for a video that he put up 01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:29.680 but he found this antibody paradox being covered by a Yale law school review that was then several 01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:36.000 months later cited by the supreme court as the evidence for the biology of monoclonal antibodies 01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:41.840 not supporting their general patent so this was a huge change that occurred right before the pandemic 01:08:41.840 --> 01:08:46.880 seemingly very convenient so that no pharmaceutical companies would invest in 01:08:46.880 --> 01:08:50.000 any monoclonal antibodies but instead would convert to this new 01:08:51.040 --> 01:08:54.560 you know there is there is science one first though you know i don't know whether you know 01:08:54.560 --> 01:09:01.440 physics a physics professor and he was he was telling when when there are problems we we have a 01:09:01.440 --> 01:09:08.320 narrative and we deduct from this narrative everything we do we take some new narrative and 01:09:08.320 --> 01:09:14.560 we make it the basis of all things we do and then we don't when we don't go when we cannot go further 01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:20.320 we invent particles and we discuss about the particles and what we have learned all about 01:09:20.320 --> 01:09:26.480 the particles and we can't go further we invent particles of particles and like this it goes on 01:09:26.480 --> 01:09:32.240 until there is a new narrative and i think we are at the at the level now that there will be a new 01:09:32.240 --> 01:09:38.320 narrative and i hope so you started it thank you very much okay thank you well okay okay 01:09:38.320 --> 01:09:42.160 Stephen we'll go for another 15 minutes we've got two questions and there's Stephen for closing 01:09:42.160 --> 01:09:46.400 questions we'll go for two and three quarter hours today JJ you okay have another 15 minutes 01:09:46.400 --> 01:09:51.840 i can probably do it if i if i pass out quick on the quick if i fall over you know then it's 01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:56.320 that's what happens yeah correct so Tom and maker and then Stephen and we'll finish it 01:09:56.320 --> 01:10:07.040 the two and three quarters go Tom oh can you hear me okay i can wow nice mic okay oh okay um yeah so um 01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:12.640 let's see if i got my question are you from Wisconsin does that say you're a Wisconsin guy 01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:18.480 yeah yeah i am i grew up in Chippewa Falls Wisconsin that's where i was born 01:10:19.360 --> 01:10:25.680 right and i i was in the Mississippi when i grew up in lacrosse but okay nice now early 01:10:25.680 --> 01:10:33.920 michigan yeah so um i had asked you this before and um it's kind of a minor question but this uh 01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:39.760 lateral these grocery store tests that are in cardboard boxes oh yeah yeah yeah are those 01:10:40.480 --> 01:10:46.880 yeah are those lateral flow and um well yeah i have i have i guess three or four questions but 01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:53.040 that's a quick easy one are those lateral i hope are lateral flow and you talk about lateral flow 01:10:54.720 --> 01:11:00.080 fraud so should i do all the questions should we do one by one or what's the best way no i mean 01:11:00.240 --> 01:11:04.960 it's fine you can just say it i know what you're asking about now and and i'm limited in my 01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:13.120 i haven't looked at the specifics of each of these products um there's a lot of them and so 01:11:13.120 --> 01:11:18.800 what antibodies are present in them and what they're specific for is specific for each product so 01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:28.080 it's tricky to it's pretty tricky to to discern which of them would be let's say more reliable or 01:11:28.080 --> 01:11:32.000 less reliable for the indication of the presence of these proteins so that's tricky but go ahead 01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:40.560 just ask oh so so i assume do they create uh an antibody are you are they detecting antibodies 01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:45.520 in general or they're not detecting antibodies in a lateral flow test i think you use your saliva 01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:51.040 right and so they're detecting spike protein or n protein and it's antibodies to those proteins 01:11:51.120 --> 01:11:58.800 that then move and then get bound to a second protein that changes color and if if i'm wrong 01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:03.760 about this then please don't let that undermine the rest of my biology that i taught because 01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:09.600 lateral flow tests are are kind of tricky with the antibody problem because it the specificities 01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:16.560 so i yeah i love your train thing and everything but this this is what i'm up against with a lot of 01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:22.080 people on the other side it's like oh i tested positive for covid again uh you know this is like 01:12:22.080 --> 01:12:28.400 that eighth time i've had covid etc and it's based on those tests um but you don't need to respond 01:12:28.400 --> 01:12:35.280 to that so this is like uh teaching kind of question it exposes all kinds of confusion that i have 01:12:35.440 --> 01:12:50.160 um and let's see so it's um uh it's the idea of okay the virus the virons has a genome which uh and 01:12:50.160 --> 01:13:02.000 is that is that the m is that represented one-to-one by the mRNA and within that genome how many genes 01:13:02.080 --> 01:13:09.280 are in it and is that another way of asking for how many proteins does it code for um and then 01:13:09.280 --> 01:13:17.120 and then at the higher level as you're kind of going up to hierarchy um we've you've got chromosomes 01:13:17.120 --> 01:13:23.120 you've got the cell nucleus and then you have the entire human genome could you kind of quickly 01:13:23.120 --> 01:13:30.720 touch on those concepts sure so in a viral genome you expect a virus to have in a coronavirus 30 01:13:30.800 --> 01:13:36.560 odd proteins that are encoded in a single genome and the genome would be long one long RNA that's 01:13:36.560 --> 01:13:43.760 the idea in our cellular genomes is one long double-stranded DNA molecule in theory for each 01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:50.000 chromosome and so our genome is just gigantic and instead of having n proteins we have our DNA 01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:55.760 organized into chromosomes that is really DNA around histones and other other proteins 01:13:56.560 --> 01:14:03.120 um but a viral genome um is supposed to contain all of the proteins that are necessary so that 01:14:03.120 --> 01:14:09.520 when that RNA goes into the cell um remember that if it's a positive strand RNA then it can go 01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:14.160 right through the ribosome if it's a negative strand RNA it needs to be turned into a positive 01:14:14.160 --> 01:14:20.640 strand RNA before it can be converted into protein so for negative strand viruses like flu and measles 01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:26.400 there has to be a not only a genome in the viral but there also has to be an enzyme set 01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:32.720 that can copy the negative strand RNA into a positive strand one before flu proteins can be 01:14:32.720 --> 01:14:39.200 made before measles protein and viruses can be made so the coronavirus is an opposite kind of thing 01:14:39.200 --> 01:14:45.200 because it's positive stranded so the first thing it has to do is go into your cells and translate 01:14:45.680 --> 01:14:52.400 into protein so that the proteins that are present that copy it from positive to positive are there 01:14:52.400 --> 01:14:58.880 so that's the trick that i wonder if you caught it but it's something that i find very frustrating 01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:06.480 about the current model of the of the the way that these viruses replicate and it's part of 01:15:06.480 --> 01:15:09.440 that bothers me i got to find the right slide here apologize for this 01:15:11.680 --> 01:15:22.480 is that in this model oops that should be here and then yeah in this model this is the this is the 01:15:22.480 --> 01:15:27.360 diagram where they show a coronavirus replicating the the thing that has to happen right this is a 01:15:27.360 --> 01:15:34.640 positive strand RNA genome which can go right through the ribosome but you want a positive strand 01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:44.560 RNA in your viruses that go out of the cell so you might presume that the positive strand RNA 01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:49.600 has to be translated to a negative strand RNA and then the negative strand RNA gets transacted back 01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:54.880 to a positive strand RNA because that's how these double stranded molecules are copied right they 01:15:55.600 --> 01:16:00.640 they rely on the mirror image in order to make the copy but this is a single strand RNA so you 01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:07.920 don't have that and interestingly in this diagram it shows if you can see my arrow it shows that 01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:15.760 the the RNA dependent RNA polymerase is translating a positive genomic RNA into another positive 01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:22.480 genomic RNA i can't find a single paper that explains how that happens or explains why that's 01:16:22.480 --> 01:16:29.440 so special because the flu virus needs to change its RNA in from negative to positive 01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:34.400 and then the positive needs to be copied back into a negative and packaged in with the enzymes 01:16:34.400 --> 01:16:42.800 required to be a full virus so the flu virus can i go ahead can can i ask you do you have any 01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:50.000 examples of positive or tom tom this is oh okay no then then i'm going to go to my last question 01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:56.640 which is kind of a bombshell thing i had a friend in this group connect me with another friend 01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:06.320 who is that you've got an adversary out there and i just i've only watched like three hours of him 01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:15.120 uh and it could you comment on kevin mccaren oh sure um kevin mccaren has is as a guy who streamed 01:17:15.120 --> 01:17:24.480 with me starting in the first week of march and we did a stream of about five hours long every 01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:30.320 weekend for five weeks in a row with another guy by the name of paul katrel who is a completely 01:17:30.320 --> 01:17:35.200 fake doctor who was promoted by george web for a very long time at the beginning of the pandemic 01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:41.840 and kevin mccaren um is a guy who when i first met him was very convinced that over a billion 01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:45.680 people would die and that everybody should be at home making masks and that we should stay 01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:50.800 home for 60 days instead of 20 he was also very convinced that the spike protein was 01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:56.880 gained a function and that there would be a massive influx of amyloidosis and spike protein 01:17:56.880 --> 01:18:02.400 induced prion disease and he was already convinced of this in march or april of 2020 01:18:02.400 --> 01:18:08.560 and he remains convinced of it now five years later he has done nothing but stream about the 01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:16.000 n-word and jus and how the jus are responsible and he has done nothing but associate his own 01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:22.000 racist bigotry with me and a couple other people with the idea i guess of slandering us and the 01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:28.000 first time that i reviewed his work was when he got in a shouting match with mark bailey and at 01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:32.800 that point he already started calling me names and said i was a liar and i didn't know what i was 01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:37.760 talking about but he didn't really lose his mind and still i started teaching about the clones and 01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:45.920 then him and charles rixie um pretty much have gone full tilt uh you know giga ohm spiral and all 01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:52.400 these other things there's there are hundreds of hours of videos of these guys spending most of 01:18:52.400 --> 01:18:59.600 their time trying to say that i'm a bad guy and it's just absurd um it's it's laughable at this 01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:08.000 stage do you realize that kevin mccaren ken came to pittsburgh from japan and tried to stay overnight 01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:17.200 in my house this guy is more than a medler it is it this is real like these people came to my house 01:19:17.200 --> 01:19:25.280 they are they are being paid to to keep the worst case scenario alive i assure you and most importantly 01:19:25.280 --> 01:19:31.920 most importantly he was involved he was involved in in making it very hard to decide the the idea 01:19:31.920 --> 01:19:37.840 that we were transfecting billions of people one of the most likely possibilities would be 01:19:37.840 --> 01:19:43.760 misfolding of proteins and potential generation of prion states so imagine that they knew this was a 01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:48.000 possibility and they had people like kevin mccaren from the very beginning out there in the darkest 01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:52.640 corners of the internet putting this nonsense out there so that when it finally did happen it 01:19:52.640 --> 01:19:57.360 wouldn't be it wouldn't be very hard for them to confound it with the the original gain of 01:19:57.360 --> 01:20:04.320 function virus this guy's one of the worst characters out there i assure you oh my gosh he makes me mad 01:20:04.320 --> 01:20:12.960 he really really has been messing with my family for four straight years yeah thank you jjj thanks 01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:21.520 mccaren very briefly thank you so much jj who did not want it must be very late there i mean my 01:20:21.520 --> 01:20:30.720 goodness okay your wife's from the nettlands isn't he that cloaked yep yeah uh hill truth hill truth 01:20:30.720 --> 01:20:38.640 okay i have a question uh i read the book of john of uh robert kennedy the warhan cover up and there 01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:48.480 it says um that uh you said uh it is on page two eight four i know what she's going to read 01:20:48.480 --> 01:20:57.120 a virus designed by a jean jockey on a keyboard says kooine so what do you think about it is this 01:20:57.120 --> 01:21:02.880 correct or um at the time that i'm at the time that he's quoting me that's exactly what i said but 01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:08.560 what i'm meaning is that they created a clone so when you do it on a keyboard you make a clone 01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:14.640 and and this is again i don't know how to say it any other way other than to say that robert f 01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:22.880 kennedy jr wanted to write a book about a lab leak and it wasn't until very late in my service of 01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:27.920 this book that i started to realize that i was perpetuating the wrong narrative and i did teach 01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:34.480 it to him it is in the book in some places but there are quotes including one where i think 01:21:34.480 --> 01:21:39.840 it's in very late in the book where i say that that oftentimes purple grand proposals are done 01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:45.280 before they are submitted and that was used to say that maybe the diffuse proposal was done and i 01:21:45.280 --> 01:21:51.520 would argue with with throwing myself under the bus to say that they went so far as to come to my 01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:57.040 house to convince me to say that and they did they convinced me to believe that for several months 01:21:57.120 --> 01:22:02.160 that i was wrong that the diffuse proposal might be right and that i needed to think very carefully 01:22:02.160 --> 01:22:07.600 about whether i was putting people in danger and this when people come to your house when people 01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:12.560 call you on the phone when people send you emails like this over and over for many many many years 01:22:13.120 --> 01:22:18.160 it becomes very difficult to stick to your laurels and say no i'm sure mike eden and 01:22:18.160 --> 01:22:23.920 wolf ganglodach are right and these guys are full of baloney and that's that's really where we are 01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:29.200 and during the writing of that book you can see the evolution of my thoughts in at least i can 01:22:29.200 --> 01:22:35.120 in my notes and it's just a question of bobby's ultimate objective was to make sure that the 01:22:35.120 --> 01:22:41.520 mythology was captured i i don't think we are in a scenario where where bobby couldn't come to 01:22:41.520 --> 01:22:48.400 understand this biology the way that we understand it and just don't necessarily think that it's 01:22:48.480 --> 01:22:53.840 going to be that easy and i am for sure that there are lots of forces out there that have 01:22:53.840 --> 01:23:00.880 have made sure those books were written um and it's just very hard i don't i don't want to say 01:23:00.880 --> 01:23:06.640 anybody's a bad guy because i think so many people like myself were taken by the by the narrative and 01:23:06.640 --> 01:23:13.120 by the by the performances and by the previous you know rumors and and and mythologies that we all 01:23:13.120 --> 01:23:18.880 grew up with i gave my kids all their shots in 2022 before we moved to the new school that 01:23:18.880 --> 01:23:23.600 they're at now and it was a week later that my wife and i sat down and watched vaxxed 01:23:24.320 --> 01:23:29.120 and we cried for hours because we realized oh my god what in the hell have we been doing we've 01:23:29.120 --> 01:23:33.200 been working for bobby kennedy for half a year we never bothered to watch the movie 01:23:34.160 --> 01:23:38.640 that's that's how stupid i am so i don't want anybody to think i hate it when i get introduced 01:23:38.720 --> 01:23:44.160 as a genius because i'm not a genius i i i figured this out like everybody else that 01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:50.400 went crazy figured it out and only very few people were were smart enough to be ahead of this and i 01:23:50.400 --> 01:23:56.160 wasn't one of them i definitely wasn't yeah right thank you thank you mike we're gonna go 01:23:57.200 --> 01:24:04.480 we're gonna move on thank you great question now now jj just to just stay there jj over the last 01:24:04.560 --> 01:24:08.640 couple of questions from steven but one thing i want to remind everybody of 01:24:10.080 --> 01:24:16.080 it's a crucial concept make all of us feel good about not being geniuses because 01:24:17.120 --> 01:24:23.680 elbert einstein said every one of us is born a genius but if you contemplate all human knowledge 01:24:24.480 --> 01:24:29.440 between my hands the smartest person on the planet whoever you think that is knows this much 01:24:30.160 --> 01:24:35.760 each one of us knows a tiny little bit that's the point of these conversations so 01:24:35.760 --> 01:24:41.920 jj is very honorable of you to admit being stupid i'm stupid in fact the wonderful 01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:48.880 a um anthony de mellow when he says this it is wonderful book awareness 01:24:50.080 --> 01:24:56.640 he says when somebody says you're an idiot agree with them each one of us we are total 01:24:56.640 --> 01:25:03.120 idiots except for this tiny little bit so glory in your idiocy now last question 01:25:03.120 --> 01:25:12.240 steven are you there last couple of questions jj will let you go yeah yeah i'm here uh so uh 01:25:12.240 --> 01:25:20.240 just switch on the video so jj um i was kind of i was going to ask you what happened at chd because 01:25:20.240 --> 01:25:28.480 it was completely mystifying to me uh hearing that you had uh lost your job at chd on the fourth 01:25:28.480 --> 01:25:35.040 of january i think you said yeah um i couldn't think of any good reason why they should choose 01:25:35.040 --> 01:25:41.360 now to get rid of you because as far as i can see you are absolutely essential to to understand 01:25:41.360 --> 01:25:48.240 what's uh going on um so um but now it makes sense because i remember reading but i i like 01:25:48.320 --> 01:25:54.880 or if k jr i really like him i i remember remember r of k jr is not at chd anymore he 01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:59.920 he had to break all ties with them in order to run for president so he has no influence and he 01:25:59.920 --> 01:26:06.160 actually was not he was not involved in me being hired i actually got hired um because 01:26:06.160 --> 01:26:10.960 some of the writing team from the from the book also worked at chd and advocated for 01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:17.120 me to be hired by brian so it's it's absolutely nothing to do with bobby i know that for sure 01:26:17.120 --> 01:26:20.720 because i actually called him when i got when i got laid off because i was so sad 01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:26.480 and what did he say well he said he couldn't do anything about it that he had nothing to do 01:26:26.480 --> 01:26:30.080 with me being hired because he would already left the organization they call him chairman 01:26:30.080 --> 01:26:35.440 and leave but that's just a moniker that means nothing he's nothing to chd he can't be they can't 01:26:35.440 --> 01:26:41.120 talk to him they call him what they call him what a chairman on leave all right yeah but that's just 01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:48.320 there well i doubt i don't know i i don't know but he can't be a part of the organization now he 01:26:48.320 --> 01:26:55.680 is all contact has to be broken by definition in american law so that tells me that it's quite 01:26:55.680 --> 01:27:02.880 possible that he would have come to agree because i was mystified when i heard uh was it about three 01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:08.160 months ago maybe i can't quite remember uh that he was going to write a book about all the gain 01:27:08.160 --> 01:27:15.040 of function stuff and i thought no no don't do that that's part of getting you to getting 01:27:15.040 --> 01:27:19.360 everybody into the narrative you know discussing the gain of function and how terrible it is 01:27:19.360 --> 01:27:27.680 does it and um so i like uh david martin a lot but i'm i don't understand why he's fallen 01:27:27.680 --> 01:27:37.600 either i and anyway point is that it now makes sense what happened to you at uh chd in my mind 01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:42.960 anyway that you are actually saying well actually don't believe this gain of function stuff 01:27:44.160 --> 01:27:49.600 it's playing into the narrative they want you to believe that it's all about fear and it generated 01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:54.400 fear whether they could do it or not you know and they didn't need to do it so that's very 01:27:54.400 --> 01:28:00.720 important to understand so taking it so seriously that you write a whole book about it well yeah i 01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:06.400 i remember thinking at the time shall i email him and what you know say but i thought you know he's 01:28:06.480 --> 01:28:11.120 got so many people around him he probably wouldn't take any notice so no point in wasting their 01:28:11.120 --> 01:28:16.640 time so but i did think about it and maybe you and i could go to him and and maybe wolf 01:28:16.640 --> 01:28:22.480 going to might be prepared to do it you know i'm trying to work on a brief that that describes this 01:28:22.480 --> 01:28:28.480 biology in text and has some citations and things i i think in the next week or week and a half it 01:28:28.480 --> 01:28:31.440 will be done and he will be one of the people that received it so it's not going to help him in the 01:28:31.520 --> 01:28:37.040 long run oh i don't know why not see it be in the long run if he's got it wrong you know oh no that's 01:28:37.040 --> 01:28:42.240 right that's right i agree so if you write the whole book about uh gain of function research and 01:28:42.240 --> 01:28:47.280 goes down the round ball routes you know i just think he's going to look at fooling uh ten years 01:28:47.280 --> 01:28:52.880 time and so we need to warn him off and we're not warning him off but suggest that you know 01:28:54.160 --> 01:28:58.960 there are dangers in going down that route because i really think that the whole thing was used 01:28:58.960 --> 01:29:03.920 just to generate fear and well he's a he's a lawyer he's a lawyer so he could very easily do 01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:08.880 what i've done and just say i didn't get it and now i get it he could just say it it's very easy 01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:13.520 i mean it's harder it's harder for somebody like me to do it than a lawyer i mean why not 01:29:14.400 --> 01:29:19.840 well whether whether rfk jr becomes the president or not he's got a huge following around the world 01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:23.920 yes i agree i agree and so it's important for him to know it whether or not i agree 01:29:23.920 --> 01:29:30.160 absolutely so maybe uh wolfgun would like to join us because he he's got incredible insights too 01:29:31.040 --> 01:29:36.080 and actually wolfgun you are a virologist aren't you? oh no we're stopping we're not having a conversation 01:29:36.080 --> 01:29:42.160 now that's another statement we have another comment well last question to you jj is do you 01:29:42.160 --> 01:29:47.440 want to write a book because i know someone who's a publisher who who's very interested he can't 01:29:47.440 --> 01:29:52.800 couldn't be on tonight's call sure put me in touch with him i mean i found a lot of people that are 01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:57.200 interested in me writing a chapter or two but then they just asked me for the chapter right away 01:29:57.200 --> 01:30:02.560 and so it's hard for me to but yes i would be in theory um i'm already writing for a very long 01:30:02.560 --> 01:30:08.400 time i just don't publish it yet because i i'm not a very fast writer and i'm very anal so it's 01:30:08.400 --> 01:30:14.080 it's he's a publisher and he can uh please you can even get the book written for you if you you know 01:30:14.080 --> 01:30:19.280 you're dictated or you could have it uh called don't don't tease me with those things just put 01:30:19.360 --> 01:30:24.320 me in touch it would be great i will do yeah and wolf gang the same question to be you would you 01:30:24.320 --> 01:30:29.360 would you like to write a book or not well would wolf gang write a book with me we could write a book 01:30:29.360 --> 01:30:37.680 together yes yes i would love it that's what we do well set it up set it up Stephen we're going 01:30:37.680 --> 01:30:48.400 okay jj jj you are you are a disgrace in demonstrating that you are not drinking enough water because 01:30:48.480 --> 01:30:53.440 for you to sit there for three hours without going to the toilet is very yeah but you haven't 01:30:53.440 --> 01:30:57.280 been to the toilet so you're clearly not drinking enough water oh i have to go don't worry 01:30:58.320 --> 01:31:04.080 yeah good all right you have to go everybody big thank you to jj great work thank you 01:31:04.800 --> 01:31:09.280 thank you so much Stephen thank you for organizing everybody we're going we're way over time 01:31:09.280 --> 01:31:15.040 Tom Rodman's video group the link is in the chat and we'll see you on sunday monday depending 01:31:15.040 --> 01:31:18.960 on what part of the planet you're on thanks jj thank you very much Stephen bye bye 01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:27.600 wow holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit 01:31:45.040 --> 01:31:47.120 you 01:32:15.040 --> 01:32:17.040 . 01:32:45.040 --> 01:32:46.920 Tony 01:32:46.920 --> 01:32:50.680 Tony 01:32:50.680 --> 01:32:57.820 Tony 01:32:57.820 --> 01:33:02.280 Tony 01:33:02.280 --> 01:33:03.660 Tony 01:33:03.660 --> 01:33:07.100 Tony 01:33:07.100 --> 01:33:09.880 solely shit that was fucking phenomenal 01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:24.880 Oh, wow. I'm still going. Did I swear out loud too? That's too bad. Stopping.