WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:03.600 This, for the purposes of Stephen here yet, where is he? 00:07.400 --> 00:10.720 He knows we get underway at five past on the dock. 00:10.720 --> 00:12.300 He'll come, he'll join us. 00:13.400 --> 00:18.400 All right, everybody, welcome to medical doctors 00:18.400 --> 00:22.400 for COVID ethics international and today's discussion. 00:22.400 --> 00:25.160 This group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost. 00:25.160 --> 00:27.800 During the darkest days of the COVID scam response 00:27.800 --> 00:31.600 with a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice, 00:31.600 --> 00:34.040 freedom and health. 00:34.040 --> 00:35.600 Stephen has stood up against government 00:35.600 --> 00:37.560 in power over the years and has been a whistleblower 00:37.560 --> 00:39.400 and activist, his medical specialist, 00:39.400 --> 00:40.960 his radiology, I'm Charles Covest, 00:40.960 --> 00:42.720 the moderator of the group. 00:42.720 --> 00:44.800 I must relate to his passion provocateur 00:44.800 --> 00:46.720 I've practiced law for 20 years 00:46.720 --> 00:48.840 before changing career 30 years ago. 00:48.840 --> 00:50.840 And over the last 13 years, I've helped parents 00:50.840 --> 00:54.480 and lawyers strategize remedies for vaccine damage. 00:54.480 --> 00:56.320 And damage from bad medical advice. 00:56.320 --> 00:59.080 The latest numbers we've heard is that, 00:59.080 --> 01:02.880 is that bad medical advice is now the number one killer 01:02.880 --> 01:04.280 in America. 01:04.280 --> 01:07.280 I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company. 01:07.280 --> 01:09.040 We comprise lots of professions here 01:09.040 --> 01:11.680 and we're from all around the world. 01:11.680 --> 01:13.760 Many of us thought that vaccines were okay, 01:13.760 --> 01:18.400 now many of us proudly say, yes, we are passionate anti-vexers. 01:19.320 --> 01:21.000 If this is your first time here, welcome 01:21.000 --> 01:23.720 and feel free to introduce yourself in the chat 01:23.720 --> 01:24.760 and where you're from. 01:24.760 --> 01:26.760 If you publish a newsletter or podcast 01:26.760 --> 01:29.480 or you have a radio or TV show or you've written a book, 01:29.480 --> 01:31.000 put the links into the chat 01:31.000 --> 01:33.320 so we can follow you, promote you and find you. 01:33.320 --> 01:36.320 And even if you've done it last week or the week before, 01:36.320 --> 01:37.720 keep putting it into the chat 01:37.720 --> 01:40.240 to make it easier for people to find. 01:40.240 --> 01:42.480 Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War III 01:42.480 --> 01:44.000 and that there are various battle lines 01:44.000 --> 01:46.360 as part of this war. 01:46.360 --> 01:49.040 Most of us understand the development of science 01:49.040 --> 01:51.160 and that the science is never settled. 01:51.160 --> 01:54.040 And then if someone tells you the science is settled, 01:54.080 --> 01:57.000 you know you're dealing with a fraud or an idiot. 01:58.360 --> 02:00.920 Some of us believe that viruses exist. 02:00.920 --> 02:03.320 Some of us believe that viruses are a hoax 02:03.320 --> 02:05.560 and some of us are on the fence on the matter. 02:05.560 --> 02:07.240 This meeting runs for two and a half hours 02:07.240 --> 02:09.640 after which for those with the time Tom Rodman 02:09.640 --> 02:11.720 runs a video telegram meeting. 02:11.720 --> 02:14.600 Tom puts the links into the chat if you're able to join. 02:14.600 --> 02:16.800 We will listen to JJ Couey. 02:16.800 --> 02:19.720 Our guest presenter for as long as JJ wishes to speak 02:19.720 --> 02:20.640 and then we have Q and A. 02:20.640 --> 02:23.520 This is the third time that JJ has joined us. 02:23.520 --> 02:25.480 His previous presentations are available 02:25.480 --> 02:27.520 on the Rumble channel. 02:27.520 --> 02:29.440 Stephen Frost by Longestubbies tradition 02:29.440 --> 02:31.480 asked the first questions for 15 minutes. 02:31.480 --> 02:32.480 There's no censorship. 02:32.480 --> 02:34.080 It's a free speech environment. 02:35.120 --> 02:37.440 Free speech is crucially important in our fight 02:37.440 --> 02:41.280 to preserve our human freedoms. 02:41.280 --> 02:43.240 If you're offended by anything be offended, 02:43.240 --> 02:44.640 we're genuinely not interested. 02:44.640 --> 02:47.920 We reject the offense industry that requires nobody 02:47.920 --> 02:50.280 to say anything that may offend another. 02:50.280 --> 02:53.280 I have a standard template of nine potential answers 02:53.280 --> 02:55.440 to somebody who says I'm offended. 02:55.440 --> 02:57.440 If you want that template put a note in the chat, 02:57.440 --> 02:58.800 I'll email it to you. 02:58.800 --> 03:01.560 It's very useful be ready with your response 03:01.560 --> 03:04.240 when someone says to you I'm offended. 03:04.240 --> 03:05.960 And also what's Ricky Gervais 03:05.960 --> 03:08.480 if you ever want to be amused by people 03:08.480 --> 03:09.880 who claim to be offended. 03:11.640 --> 03:15.080 We come with an attitude and perspective of love not fear. 03:15.080 --> 03:16.480 Fear is the opposite of love. 03:16.480 --> 03:18.200 Fear squashes you. 03:18.200 --> 03:20.400 Love on the other hand expands you. 03:20.400 --> 03:23.320 Before we start we were talking about Gandhi. 03:24.520 --> 03:27.680 The game plan clearly has to be non-violent, 03:27.680 --> 03:32.240 non-compliance with bad government behaviour. 03:33.320 --> 03:35.600 These twice weekly meetings are not just talk fest 03:35.600 --> 03:38.120 and extraordinary range of actions and initiatives 03:38.120 --> 03:41.360 have been generated from linkages made by attendees 03:41.360 --> 03:42.800 in these meetings. 03:42.800 --> 03:45.120 If you have a solution or a product or links or resources 03:45.120 --> 03:47.160 that will help you with the details in the chat, 03:47.160 --> 03:48.640 the meeting is recorded 03:48.640 --> 03:50.720 and he's uploaded on the Rumble channel. 03:50.720 --> 03:54.640 And now welcome to our guest presenter, Jonathan J. Couey 03:54.640 --> 03:57.120 globally renowned genius. 03:57.120 --> 03:59.880 And thank you, JJ, for giving us your time, 03:59.880 --> 04:01.560 wisdom and insights again. 04:01.560 --> 04:03.160 And thank you, Stephen Frost, 04:03.160 --> 04:07.040 for creating the group and for organising JJ to speak to us. 04:07.040 --> 04:10.000 JJ, we are in your hands there, Stephen. 04:10.000 --> 04:11.920 I've arrived and there's JJ. 04:11.920 --> 04:13.720 Hey, JJ, thanks for coming to speak to us. 04:13.720 --> 04:15.200 You're very welcome. 04:15.200 --> 04:17.520 Thank you all for taking the time to listen. 04:17.520 --> 04:19.360 I'm gonna try and go as quick as I can 04:19.360 --> 04:21.360 because I know that you've heard me before 04:21.360 --> 04:24.080 and there's a lot of buzz about 04:24.080 --> 04:26.000 different recent conversations I've had 04:26.000 --> 04:28.480 including one with Wolfgang Wodarg. 04:28.480 --> 04:30.720 And so it might be that I cover the wrong things here. 04:30.720 --> 04:32.920 And so I'm gonna try and fly through it, 04:32.920 --> 04:36.240 but please keep in mind that I've done a presentation 04:36.240 --> 04:39.000 like this enough so I can handle an interruption 04:39.000 --> 04:40.760 and it might be easier if you interrupt 04:40.760 --> 04:42.800 when the question is relevant for everybody 04:42.800 --> 04:44.920 rather than waiting until the end. 04:44.920 --> 04:47.840 And so barring any, you know, 04:47.840 --> 04:49.520 if it becomes a thousand questions, 04:49.520 --> 04:50.640 obviously it's probably not good, 04:50.640 --> 04:52.880 but occasionally I don't mind at all. 04:54.240 --> 04:55.080 I need to- 04:55.080 --> 04:58.200 Hey, JJ, I'm happy to do that. 04:58.200 --> 05:01.280 So everybody, so today, 05:01.280 --> 05:03.080 because JJ has been with us so many times, 05:03.080 --> 05:05.280 we'll do it unusually. 05:05.280 --> 05:08.840 So if you wanna ask a question, JJ is good. 05:08.840 --> 05:12.360 You watch the screen, JJ, if you see your hand come up, 05:12.720 --> 05:14.240 you know, stop when you stop talking 05:14.240 --> 05:15.240 and handle that question. 05:15.240 --> 05:16.120 Does that make sense, JJ? 05:16.120 --> 05:18.400 It does accept all the magic that I have. 05:18.400 --> 05:20.680 It makes it very hard for me to watch the Zoom 05:20.680 --> 05:22.320 so I can't really look for hands. 05:22.320 --> 05:23.880 Then I'll handle the hands up. 05:23.880 --> 05:25.800 Okay. Just put your hands up 05:25.800 --> 05:27.800 if you have a question pertinent to that issue. 05:27.800 --> 05:29.800 And then at the end, when JJ finishes, 05:29.800 --> 05:31.480 then we'll do the normal price. 05:31.480 --> 05:32.680 It's fantastic. 05:32.680 --> 05:35.320 JJ, how many times have you spoken to us? 05:35.320 --> 05:37.160 Is it three or more than three? 05:37.160 --> 05:38.000 I thought more. 05:38.000 --> 05:39.680 This could be the fourth time. 05:39.680 --> 05:40.520 I think so, yeah. 05:40.520 --> 05:41.360 This could be the fourth time. 05:41.360 --> 05:42.200 Yeah, very good. 05:43.200 --> 05:45.400 I'm gonna borrow a starting slide 05:45.400 --> 05:47.480 from my friend, Vera Sharav. 05:48.560 --> 05:51.160 I think Edward Bernese's statement is very important here. 05:51.160 --> 05:53.160 The conscious and intelligent manipulation 05:53.160 --> 05:55.320 of the organized habits and opinions of the masses. 05:55.320 --> 05:58.480 There's an important element in democratic society 05:58.480 --> 06:00.800 and those who manipulate this unseen mechanism 06:00.800 --> 06:03.520 of society constitute an invisible government, 06:03.520 --> 06:06.680 which is the true ruling power of our country. 06:06.680 --> 06:09.080 And maybe now with the internet 06:09.080 --> 06:11.680 and with the who and other organizations 06:11.680 --> 06:14.000 around public health, it may be that 06:14.000 --> 06:17.160 this may be the mechanism by which they plan to rule 06:17.160 --> 06:19.160 our global society. 06:19.160 --> 06:21.120 And I wanna start here all the time 06:21.120 --> 06:22.560 just to bring everybody up to speed. 06:22.560 --> 06:24.520 I apologize if it's a bothersome thing 06:24.520 --> 06:27.120 for those of you outside of the UK. 06:27.120 --> 06:29.240 But I've been trying to explain 06:29.240 --> 06:32.160 that we've been fooled into solving a mystery. 06:32.160 --> 06:34.520 And I use the example of a cartoon show 06:34.520 --> 06:36.200 from the United States called Scooby-Doo, 06:36.240 --> 06:39.760 where teenagers solve a mystery every week 06:39.760 --> 06:41.640 in the town that they're driving through. 06:41.640 --> 06:44.200 And it inevitably involves a monster 06:44.200 --> 06:45.920 that needs to have its mask removed 06:45.920 --> 06:47.800 and then the bad guys revealed to be someone 06:47.800 --> 06:50.200 that was earlier in the show. 06:50.200 --> 06:51.880 What I am suggesting here 06:51.880 --> 06:54.360 and something that I wanna be very clear about 06:54.360 --> 06:57.680 is it's not in 2020 that this started, 06:57.680 --> 07:00.440 but it started a much longer time ago 07:00.440 --> 07:04.800 with the co-opting of certain investigative lines 07:05.640 --> 07:07.880 in primary literature in biology. 07:07.880 --> 07:11.800 And so by carefully co-opting certain narratives 07:11.800 --> 07:13.440 into the biological literature 07:13.440 --> 07:16.200 and importantly funding investigation 07:16.200 --> 07:20.800 into certain ideas in the primary literature, 07:20.800 --> 07:24.600 you can seed a series of papers over a series of years 07:24.600 --> 07:27.280 that can imply a danger that's not there. 07:27.280 --> 07:29.280 It can imply a link that's not there. 07:29.280 --> 07:33.120 One of the most spectacular ones from my own field 07:33.200 --> 07:35.680 is the preponderance of literature 07:35.680 --> 07:40.040 that's looking at correlations between genes and autism 07:40.040 --> 07:44.040 and often in animal models of autism. 07:44.040 --> 07:47.080 And so after many years of funding this kind of research, 07:47.080 --> 07:51.760 we have a whole foundation by which anyone 07:51.760 --> 07:54.760 who wants to justify the further investigation 07:54.760 --> 07:56.520 into the genetic causes of autism 07:56.520 --> 07:59.320 can simply cite all of these hundreds of papers 07:59.320 --> 08:01.680 and build their grand proposal from there. 08:01.680 --> 08:04.320 So it's a very dangerous sort of environment 08:04.320 --> 08:08.400 in which this pseudo-intellectual pursuit occurs 08:08.400 --> 08:10.400 because you can't just ask any question you want. 08:10.400 --> 08:13.160 You've got to ask a question for which you can get funding. 08:13.160 --> 08:16.080 And oftentimes the way that academic biology 08:16.080 --> 08:19.080 makes progress is dictated solely 08:19.080 --> 08:20.960 by what questions they're allowed to ask. 08:20.960 --> 08:24.880 And with response, with regard to RNA viruses 08:24.880 --> 08:27.680 that that general academic pursuit 08:27.680 --> 08:30.160 has been hyper-controlled for a very long time. 08:30.160 --> 08:32.520 And I think if you reflect on all the people 08:32.520 --> 08:36.080 that are involved in virology and how virology 08:36.080 --> 08:40.880 from AIDS onward has been, let's say, scripted, 08:40.880 --> 08:43.000 you can see that there's some incongruency 08:43.000 --> 08:45.560 between the real biology that we can verify 08:45.560 --> 08:47.840 and the real biology that they claim. 08:47.840 --> 08:49.640 At the same time, of course, they've 08:49.640 --> 08:51.600 been running tabletop exercises. 08:51.600 --> 08:57.160 The most famous example of one is event 201. 08:57.160 --> 08:58.920 But of course, we can go back decades 08:58.920 --> 09:02.560 and see that there were many tabletop exercises looking 09:02.560 --> 09:07.640 at bioterrorism, what could be done and what could happen. 09:07.640 --> 09:12.040 Now, the trick with this is to understand, number three, 09:12.040 --> 09:15.120 is to understand that they have game to this out on a table 09:15.120 --> 09:17.880 and they've actually run it live before. 09:17.880 --> 09:22.800 There was a swine pandemic and swine flu pandemic in 1976 09:22.800 --> 09:24.320 that was part of this. 09:24.320 --> 09:26.880 There was one in 2009 that was part of this 09:26.880 --> 09:29.560 that afterward was analyzed over and over again, 09:29.560 --> 09:32.240 especially from different countries' perspectives 09:32.240 --> 09:35.040 and how the language barrier in a place like Belgium 09:35.040 --> 09:38.200 played a huge role in the uptake of the vaccine. 09:38.200 --> 09:41.960 They analyzed this like a post-war analysis 09:41.960 --> 09:45.040 of the battle plan and lamented about the fact 09:45.040 --> 09:47.400 that they didn't have the kind of social media reach 09:47.400 --> 09:50.000 in 2009 that they have now and that maybe they would have 09:50.000 --> 09:54.360 been more successful in the Flanders section of Belgium, 09:54.360 --> 09:58.080 the French speaking part had they been able to work 09:58.080 --> 10:00.000 into that language a little better. 10:00.000 --> 10:02.720 All of these things have been gamed in such a way 10:02.720 --> 10:06.200 so that this time around, the actual presentation 10:06.200 --> 10:09.320 of the narrative at the very beginning was hyper-controlled. 10:09.320 --> 10:12.480 Right down to the three word phrase, build back better 10:12.480 --> 10:15.720 or new normal, these kinds of things were just as, 10:15.720 --> 10:18.760 this is the obvious, this is the one they made videos about 10:18.760 --> 10:20.640 so that everybody got excited about. 10:20.640 --> 10:23.920 Look, all these world leaders are saying, 10:23.920 --> 10:27.200 build back better but nobody got really suspicious 10:27.200 --> 10:30.200 about some of the other things that everyone was agreeing 10:30.200 --> 10:33.000 about including the fact that this was a pandemic. 10:33.920 --> 10:37.400 The attributes of the pandemic were actually early on, 10:37.400 --> 10:40.520 seeded in such a way, I believe so that the narrative 10:40.520 --> 10:43.200 of worst case scenario was present from the beginning 10:43.200 --> 10:47.560 and that people could already consider in January of 2020 10:47.560 --> 10:49.240 that if these people are lying about it 10:49.240 --> 10:50.880 and it is the worst case scenario, 10:50.880 --> 10:53.840 we could all lose several people in our lives. 10:53.880 --> 10:56.240 That billions of people were gonna die. 10:56.240 --> 11:00.080 And so this worst case scenario was extremely important. 11:00.080 --> 11:02.520 Number one, to make sure that everybody complied 11:02.520 --> 11:05.680 from masks to lockdowns to getting iPads 11:05.680 --> 11:08.400 and putting your kids in front of them, 11:08.400 --> 11:11.120 all the way eventually to the end of 2020 11:11.120 --> 11:14.080 where the transfections using dentovirus 11:14.080 --> 11:18.600 or using mRNA and lipid nanoparticles were taken gladly 11:18.600 --> 11:20.760 because of the fear of worst case scenario. 11:21.760 --> 11:24.160 They of course told this story under the pretense 11:24.160 --> 11:27.640 of a national security response 11:27.640 --> 11:30.120 and so the people that were curating this narrative 11:30.120 --> 11:32.360 were also kind of under some constraints 11:32.360 --> 11:35.640 under what they could say and were required to say 11:35.640 --> 11:38.640 that we're at war with this virus and that is biblical. 11:39.760 --> 11:42.480 And finally, the whole idea and I really believe this 11:42.480 --> 11:45.760 with all of my heart that one of the main objectives 11:45.760 --> 11:48.280 of the original three years was to make sure 11:48.480 --> 11:52.440 that a story about a virus spike protein could be confounded 11:52.440 --> 11:56.160 with the story of transfection to that spike protein 11:56.160 --> 11:58.240 so that when transfection didn't work out 11:58.240 --> 12:00.160 as well as they hoped it would, 12:00.160 --> 12:02.360 they would be able to blame it on the poor, 12:02.360 --> 12:06.400 rust choice of the spike protein as the transfection target 12:06.400 --> 12:08.960 rather than transfection in general. 12:08.960 --> 12:11.800 And now we can move on to subsequent generations 12:11.800 --> 12:13.360 of this technology, 12:13.360 --> 12:16.600 purporting to solve some of the problems that are there. 12:16.600 --> 12:20.800 And I will include the double-stranded DNA contamination 12:20.800 --> 12:24.680 in this general ruse to try and confuse us 12:24.680 --> 12:26.720 about what effects are coming from where. 12:27.880 --> 12:30.040 Early, what I want is high morbidity. 12:30.040 --> 12:31.760 I want people to complain. 12:31.760 --> 12:33.000 So what do I do? 12:33.000 --> 12:34.280 I go to Des Moines. 12:34.280 --> 12:35.600 Ladies and gentlemen of people on the screen, 12:35.600 --> 12:36.640 I have nothing against Des Moines. 12:36.640 --> 12:37.760 I live there for four years. 12:37.760 --> 12:39.000 I go to Des Moines. 12:39.000 --> 12:42.080 I infect a couple of sentinel cases in Des Moines. 12:42.080 --> 12:43.440 I go to Seattle. 12:43.440 --> 12:45.520 I infect a couple of cases there. 12:45.520 --> 12:47.440 Okay, so we've listened to this video before. 12:47.440 --> 12:49.400 This video is Dr. Giordano. 12:49.400 --> 12:54.320 Dr. I can't remember his first name, shoot. 12:54.320 --> 12:55.160 But anyway, it doesn't matter. 12:55.160 --> 12:57.640 Dr. Giordano, he works for the US Army 12:57.640 --> 12:59.640 and he's explaining here 12:59.640 --> 13:04.360 how a seeding of a few annoying cases 13:04.360 --> 13:06.920 using a toxin or some other substance 13:06.920 --> 13:08.720 which would cause people to go to the hospital 13:08.720 --> 13:12.480 and complain could be combined with an internet campaign 13:12.480 --> 13:14.880 to create the illusion of spread. 13:14.880 --> 13:17.280 And then that illusion of spread could be claimed 13:17.280 --> 13:21.680 by a terrorist group and also denied by governments 13:21.680 --> 13:24.600 and you could cause confusion that would cause a rift 13:24.600 --> 13:26.960 between the populace and their government 13:26.960 --> 13:29.960 and that would ruin a country over time. 13:29.960 --> 13:33.320 Now, although this is not exactly what I think happened, 13:33.320 --> 13:36.400 I think that this presentation from 2017 13:36.400 --> 13:39.360 really puts out an outline which we need to consider 13:39.360 --> 13:43.080 as a real possibility has an alternative to the idea 13:43.080 --> 13:45.760 that either a natural or a lab leak virus 13:45.760 --> 13:49.000 has circulated the globe for the last four and a half years 13:49.000 --> 13:51.960 and that it has changed its flavor several times 13:51.960 --> 13:57.120 across the entire globe in a sort of almost, 13:57.120 --> 13:59.840 I don't know, color changing kind of manner. 13:59.840 --> 14:02.720 This story doesn't have any foundation in biology 14:02.720 --> 14:06.400 but this one has stories in, has a foundation 14:06.400 --> 14:11.080 in military lectures, it has a foundation in biology 14:11.160 --> 14:14.040 and it has a foundation in previous tabletop exercises 14:14.040 --> 14:16.680 which discussed these kinds of things. 14:16.680 --> 14:19.000 So number one, a military response with the ability 14:19.000 --> 14:21.200 to drive local mass casualty events. 14:21.200 --> 14:24.480 I believe that it's very possible that in the places 14:24.480 --> 14:28.200 where the script called for a lot of people to get sick 14:28.200 --> 14:30.000 and there was also a military presence 14:30.000 --> 14:34.240 to make sure that that appearance was maintained. 14:34.240 --> 14:37.080 Doesn't necessarily mean that 20,000 people were killed 14:37.080 --> 14:38.320 in four weeks in New York 14:38.320 --> 14:40.520 but that seems to be the numbers right now. 14:40.520 --> 14:42.280 We don't have death certificates, 14:42.280 --> 14:43.920 we don't have any firm evidence 14:43.920 --> 14:45.800 of where these 20,000's bodies went 14:45.800 --> 14:48.160 but the numbers that are officially reported 14:48.160 --> 14:52.120 are a mass casualty events that begins and ends in four weeks. 14:52.120 --> 14:54.400 There's no evidence of spread after that 14:54.400 --> 14:56.360 and these numbers need to be corroborated 14:56.360 --> 14:58.800 because again, the New York City was a place 14:58.800 --> 15:01.160 where lots of people rushed to help 15:01.160 --> 15:03.280 including people like Pierre Corey 15:03.280 --> 15:07.640 who although he came after that 20,000 deaths event 15:07.640 --> 15:09.840 was very quickly in front of the US Senate 15:09.840 --> 15:11.880 telling about how this was a war 15:11.880 --> 15:14.840 and that this was crazy deadly 15:14.840 --> 15:16.800 and that it was a real battle. 15:17.960 --> 15:19.680 And so we've got to be very careful here 15:19.680 --> 15:22.160 because it's very likely at the beginning of the pandemic 15:22.160 --> 15:25.320 in these places where these mass casualty events were occurred, 15:25.320 --> 15:27.440 people were also co-opted. 15:27.440 --> 15:28.280 They walked in, they said, 15:28.280 --> 15:29.960 hey, this is a national security thing, 15:29.960 --> 15:31.600 we don't know how bad it's gonna be. 15:31.600 --> 15:35.040 It could be worst case scenario, we need your help. 15:35.040 --> 15:36.680 We're glad you came 15:36.680 --> 15:39.160 but we need this message delivered to social media. 15:39.160 --> 15:41.440 You're a credible guy, I think you can handle it 15:41.440 --> 15:44.520 but you're gonna have to stay on script a little bit 15:44.520 --> 15:45.920 because the worst case scenario, 15:45.920 --> 15:49.240 we need everybody to believe it so that they comply 15:49.240 --> 15:51.160 so that they lock down so that they wear their masks 15:51.160 --> 15:53.480 so that we figure out whether this is really bad 15:53.480 --> 15:55.040 or whether it's ongoing. 15:55.040 --> 15:57.520 And so they could have scared it, threatened him. 15:57.520 --> 16:01.000 Not saying that anybody was given a suitcase of cash 16:01.000 --> 16:03.440 and that's how they did this. 16:03.440 --> 16:06.080 I'm saying that the people who ran this 16:06.080 --> 16:08.400 used the worst case scenario to co-opt 16:08.400 --> 16:11.440 all of these people to make sure that they stayed on narrative. 16:11.440 --> 16:13.160 And at the same time in the background, 16:13.160 --> 16:16.480 there are financial and legal incentives to declare COVID. 16:16.480 --> 16:20.520 And at the same time, there's this social media campaign 16:20.520 --> 16:22.400 where the worst case scenario of a lab leak 16:22.400 --> 16:24.960 is already being whispered about. 16:24.960 --> 16:28.080 And at the same time, there are people on regular TV 16:28.080 --> 16:29.960 already denying that that's crazy. 16:31.760 --> 16:35.160 And now if you institute inside of hospitals, 16:35.160 --> 16:37.920 little tweaks to different knobs, 16:37.920 --> 16:40.040 little tweaks to different procedures 16:40.040 --> 16:44.200 so that the average all cause mortality goes up. 16:44.200 --> 16:45.880 And then you have a couple specific things 16:45.880 --> 16:49.040 that when they test positive or they're suspected 16:49.040 --> 16:51.560 of being COVID, you can get a lot of money 16:51.560 --> 16:53.320 if you put them on this protocol 16:53.320 --> 16:56.040 and you're also free of legal obligation 16:56.040 --> 16:57.880 if you put them on this protocol. 16:59.000 --> 17:00.480 Then there's gonna be a lot of hospitals, 17:00.480 --> 17:03.920 especially in America who are gonna put them on this protocol. 17:03.920 --> 17:06.200 If you also combine that with social policies 17:06.200 --> 17:09.280 like do not resuscitate orders to EMTs 17:09.280 --> 17:13.400 or any countless other ways that they mistreated 17:13.400 --> 17:15.200 old people in nursing homes, 17:15.200 --> 17:17.600 you can also increase all cause mortality 17:17.600 --> 17:20.840 under the umbrella of this spreading COVID virus. 17:20.840 --> 17:24.000 Emergency social policies and these COVID hospital protocols 17:24.000 --> 17:27.080 then need to be ignored by the people 17:27.080 --> 17:29.280 who are perpetuating the worst case scenario narrative, 17:29.280 --> 17:30.280 not because they're mean, 17:30.280 --> 17:33.640 but because this is part of the way that this would work. 17:33.640 --> 17:34.960 We didn't know anything then. 17:34.960 --> 17:35.800 There were no numbers. 17:35.800 --> 17:37.640 We can look back now and look like, 17:37.640 --> 17:38.800 wow, you should have known better, 17:38.800 --> 17:40.600 but we really can't say it then. 17:42.040 --> 17:43.840 And that's how I got stuck into this too. 17:43.840 --> 17:46.080 That's the reason they convinced the public 17:46.080 --> 17:48.960 that a lab leak cover up was happening before their eyes. 17:48.960 --> 17:51.080 I was involved in a drastic Twitter group 17:51.080 --> 17:53.640 that also convinced me that I was breaking the story 17:53.640 --> 17:56.280 of a lab leak right before my eyes. 17:56.280 --> 17:58.140 I felt like I was being a hero. 18:00.040 --> 18:03.120 And so they roped us in to figuring this mystery out 18:03.120 --> 18:04.600 and to fighting about it. 18:05.840 --> 18:09.760 And all the while they also used Australia and New Zealand 18:09.760 --> 18:12.600 as lockdown examples where they threw people on the ground 18:12.600 --> 18:14.160 and forced them to get in masks 18:14.160 --> 18:16.320 and they brought them to trailers away from their house 18:16.320 --> 18:18.260 to be quarantined. 18:19.200 --> 18:20.320 They couldn't do that in America, 18:20.320 --> 18:23.080 but they needed to show the rest of the world 18:23.080 --> 18:24.680 what could be done and what might work, 18:24.680 --> 18:26.920 what a real lockdown looks like. 18:26.920 --> 18:29.240 Then they needed people like Brett Weinstein in America 18:29.240 --> 18:31.400 to complain that while we didn't lockdown hard enough, 18:31.400 --> 18:33.860 otherwise we'd already be at zero COVID. 18:34.860 --> 18:37.580 Zero COVID being a real thing that we talked about 18:37.580 --> 18:39.380 for two years that we've all forgotten about, 18:39.380 --> 18:40.740 but that was a real debate. 18:43.500 --> 18:46.740 And so the way that they hid all of this activity 18:46.740 --> 18:49.540 was to just agree that we're gonna talk about a novel virus, 18:49.540 --> 18:51.940 we're gonna talk about millions of people died, 18:51.940 --> 18:54.220 we're gonna talk about millions more could be saved, 18:54.220 --> 18:55.580 you just listen to me, 18:55.580 --> 18:57.300 and we're gonna talk about gain a function 18:57.300 --> 18:59.900 being a real likely source of it. 18:59.900 --> 19:02.900 And therefore this danger will come again and again. 19:02.900 --> 19:04.180 And if you don't question this stuff, 19:04.180 --> 19:05.620 you can say anything else. 19:07.540 --> 19:10.900 And they have been laying this narrative for decades 19:10.900 --> 19:13.740 that cell culture and animal passage 19:13.740 --> 19:16.340 can access pandemic potential 19:16.340 --> 19:19.580 and now we can stitch them together and it's even worse. 19:19.580 --> 19:22.660 And they want us to pass this idea onto our children 19:22.660 --> 19:25.340 so that they grow up with these boogeymen forever, 19:25.340 --> 19:27.980 that this mythology governs their behavior. 19:28.820 --> 19:33.620 And I believe there are a number of people on the internet 19:33.620 --> 19:35.780 that were recruited before the pandemic, 19:35.780 --> 19:37.060 for narrative control, 19:37.060 --> 19:39.060 not even knowing there was gonna be a pandemic, 19:39.060 --> 19:40.860 just thinking that, wow, I get to help out 19:40.860 --> 19:43.540 with the governance structure of America 19:43.540 --> 19:45.980 by being the new social media, the new media, 19:45.980 --> 19:48.620 the new mainstream media, I get to be that guy, 19:48.620 --> 19:49.700 that's so fun. 19:51.060 --> 19:54.820 Joe Rogan doesn't have a $100 million contract on Spotify 19:54.820 --> 19:55.660 for nothing. 19:58.820 --> 20:02.100 And so we had guys like this in America 20:02.100 --> 20:06.620 in February of 2020, listen carefully. 20:06.620 --> 20:07.460 Help. 20:07.460 --> 20:11.140 Bit but I kid you now. 20:11.140 --> 20:12.180 Come back where we're from. 20:12.180 --> 20:14.500 People come in. 20:14.500 --> 20:15.340 Or you can't hear it. 20:15.340 --> 20:17.340 They die. 20:17.340 --> 20:18.660 Just try again, JJ. 20:18.660 --> 20:19.580 Try again, JJ. 20:20.620 --> 20:22.980 Maybe I have to switch my sound settings. 20:22.980 --> 20:25.340 We can hear it just a bit muffled to the start. 20:25.340 --> 20:26.380 Oh, okay, that's good. 20:26.380 --> 20:27.340 All right, I'll play it. 20:27.380 --> 20:28.700 Sorry, it's very quick. 20:30.140 --> 20:30.980 Biblical. 20:32.260 --> 20:33.260 I kid you now. 20:35.580 --> 20:38.380 People come in, I get intubated. 20:38.380 --> 20:39.460 They die. 20:39.460 --> 20:40.540 The cycle repeats. 20:42.020 --> 20:43.300 You overwhelmed? 20:43.300 --> 20:44.780 Yeah, the systems overwhelmed. 20:44.780 --> 20:46.420 All over the place. 20:46.420 --> 20:49.020 My daughters and intern in Brooklyn, 20:49.020 --> 20:52.580 first year resident, she starts the ICU today. 20:53.580 --> 20:55.780 I couldn't sleep last night. 20:56.140 --> 20:57.660 It's scary. 20:57.660 --> 20:58.500 9-11. 20:58.500 --> 21:01.740 Now what you know here, sorry, he says one more thing. 21:01.740 --> 21:04.220 He said 9-11 is nothing compared to this. 21:04.220 --> 21:06.220 Now what's important to see is that that guy 21:06.220 --> 21:08.260 was also featured on Tucker Carlson. 21:10.020 --> 21:12.700 So even though we now know when we look back 21:12.700 --> 21:15.220 at New York City, most of the hospitals were empty. 21:16.220 --> 21:19.900 That guy was on Fox News telling the United States 21:19.900 --> 21:23.940 the whole world that it was biblical, like hell. 21:23.940 --> 21:27.540 And they had world leaders saying that it was a pandemic 21:27.540 --> 21:29.100 and it's the new normal. 21:29.100 --> 21:30.220 We're gonna build back better. 21:30.220 --> 21:31.900 They had people on the news saying this. 21:31.900 --> 21:34.660 They had virologists agreeing that the ACE2 receptor, 21:34.660 --> 21:38.140 her ACE2 receptor affinity, 21:38.140 --> 21:40.180 sure seems to indicate that they enriched this 21:40.180 --> 21:43.580 in a laboratory, maybe even with humanized mice. 21:45.420 --> 21:47.860 And none of these people acknowledged 21:47.860 --> 21:52.380 that there was this huge propaganda campaign 21:52.380 --> 21:54.340 that caused fear and uncertainty and doubt. 21:54.340 --> 21:59.340 They sent old attending physicians home 21:59.820 --> 22:01.620 because the virus was so dangerous 22:01.620 --> 22:04.260 you didn't want these people that were near retirement 22:04.260 --> 22:07.900 to be in the OR or into the ER rather. 22:07.900 --> 22:11.700 They sent old professors home from universities 22:11.700 --> 22:13.940 said, don't come in, you should just take early retirement 22:13.940 --> 22:16.140 because if you come into a university 22:16.140 --> 22:19.380 you could get this terrible thing and you could die. 22:19.940 --> 22:22.740 They told people not to resuscitate people 22:22.740 --> 22:25.740 because you'll spread the virus when you give them CPR. 22:25.740 --> 22:28.660 You better use ventilators with a higher pressure setting 22:28.660 --> 22:29.660 than you've ever used before 22:29.660 --> 22:32.260 because otherwise they might spread the virus. 22:32.260 --> 22:35.380 Yeah, but these people can talk, that doesn't matter. 22:35.380 --> 22:39.020 Sedate them and vent them because they get COVID money then. 22:39.020 --> 22:43.460 $35,000 a person and they get no, 22:43.460 --> 22:47.460 there's no liability for the care of that person 22:48.300 --> 22:50.580 if they designated them COVID. 22:50.580 --> 22:53.660 Lack of antibiotic use was just built into the protocol. 22:53.660 --> 22:56.460 Poor use of steroids was just built into the protocol. 22:56.460 --> 22:58.700 Eventually, Madazzalam and Remdesivir 22:58.700 --> 23:00.340 was built into the protocol. 23:00.340 --> 23:03.620 The opioid deaths have gone up every year in America 23:03.620 --> 23:06.980 since 2017 or something like that. 23:06.980 --> 23:08.420 But since the start of the pandemic 23:08.420 --> 23:10.980 they're going up much more rapidly. 23:10.980 --> 23:13.540 These are not excess deaths that can be discounted 23:13.540 --> 23:14.580 but they are excess deaths 23:14.580 --> 23:16.460 that very easily hospital administrators 23:16.940 --> 23:19.260 could call COVID and did. 23:20.420 --> 23:23.940 More importantly, these deaths happen across age groups 23:23.940 --> 23:27.220 which reduce the expected lifespan of America 23:27.220 --> 23:28.780 and then they can be pointed to us saying, 23:28.780 --> 23:30.780 look at what COVID did. 23:30.780 --> 23:32.820 And without any honest accounting 23:32.820 --> 23:34.380 of what's actually happening in America, 23:34.380 --> 23:36.580 what's actually killing people in America, 23:36.580 --> 23:38.460 these deaths are getting mixed up as COVID 23:38.460 --> 23:40.980 because they only care about excess. 23:40.980 --> 23:43.980 And if you compute it wrong, all of those are excess. 23:44.060 --> 23:46.460 Death certificate fraud, financial incentives 23:46.460 --> 23:47.740 and then we go to track and trace 23:47.740 --> 23:50.220 which happened in America for literally a year. 23:50.220 --> 23:52.980 They had whole companies that were making phone calls 23:52.980 --> 23:55.420 to warn you that somebody that you work with 23:55.420 --> 23:58.580 was tested positive and then we go all the way back 23:58.580 --> 24:00.780 to the beginning and we find this PCR fraud, 24:00.780 --> 24:04.100 this lateral flow test fraud and likely sequencing fraud 24:04.100 --> 24:05.900 which we have all come to accept 24:05.900 --> 24:08.140 as being evidence of something which it's not. 24:08.140 --> 24:10.780 And we've come to accept that evidence 24:10.780 --> 24:13.900 because no matter who we got into arguments 24:13.900 --> 24:15.740 with, they just seem to all be stuck 24:15.740 --> 24:18.340 on this novel virus as being real. 24:18.340 --> 24:20.780 It's the limited spectrum of debate 24:20.780 --> 24:22.940 that we've been trapped in for four years. 24:22.940 --> 24:26.260 It's the way that we get our family and friends out 24:26.260 --> 24:29.500 is by alerting them to the idea 24:29.500 --> 24:31.260 that this hasn't been a vigorous debate. 24:31.260 --> 24:33.100 It's been a very limited debate, 24:33.100 --> 24:36.020 actually tricked you into solving a mystery 24:36.020 --> 24:37.900 that got you to accept their monster. 24:38.740 --> 24:41.020 They started us out in the beginning of the pandemic 24:41.020 --> 24:43.020 at a lonely road all by ourselves 24:43.020 --> 24:45.780 with only social media and mainstream media 24:45.780 --> 24:47.500 to look to besides our family. 24:49.060 --> 24:50.940 And then no matter who you got in the car with, 24:50.940 --> 24:53.180 they were gonna tell you a story about a novel virus 24:53.180 --> 24:55.220 that killed millions, that we should be able to save 24:55.220 --> 24:56.940 more people from if we would just give them 24:56.940 --> 24:59.180 these novel treatments and gain a function. 24:59.180 --> 25:02.680 It's definitely a possibility and the virus will come again. 25:04.700 --> 25:06.740 And so it didn't matter who you chose. 25:06.740 --> 25:07.980 It was a random cards. 25:07.980 --> 25:10.100 If you got lucky and chose Mike Eden, 25:10.100 --> 25:13.100 well, and maybe you were losing your mind for three years 25:13.100 --> 25:14.780 because no one else agreed with you. 25:14.780 --> 25:18.100 If you heard Wolfgang Wodarg before he stopped speaking up 25:18.100 --> 25:22.580 because of censorship, he might've been gone crazy by now. 25:22.580 --> 25:25.220 But if you found any of these other people on TV 25:25.220 --> 25:27.940 or on social media, you're still hot in the debate 25:27.940 --> 25:30.780 about, oh my gosh, these people were lying to me. 25:30.780 --> 25:34.180 Brett Weinstein was hot on this telling about lab leak 25:34.180 --> 25:35.020 and natural virus. 25:35.020 --> 25:37.140 He even had a member of drastic on his show 25:37.140 --> 25:39.020 named Yuri Dagen, who was the first guy 25:39.020 --> 25:40.700 to identify the fear and cleavage site 25:40.700 --> 25:44.180 that supposedly set this from a normal average coronavirus 25:44.180 --> 25:45.820 into something that could skirt the world 25:45.820 --> 25:47.660 for five years like a lighting bolt. 25:51.780 --> 25:55.540 Most recently, I got courted by one of the things 25:55.540 --> 25:57.980 that happened not most recently, but most relevant 25:57.980 --> 26:01.220 to the story I wanna tell you today is that Charles Rixi, 26:01.220 --> 26:03.500 a member of drastic and an American, 26:03.500 --> 26:06.260 came to my house in Pittsburgh to convince me 26:06.300 --> 26:09.380 that my assessment of the diffuse proposal, 26:09.380 --> 26:12.340 which is a leaked grant proposal, which supposedly 26:12.340 --> 26:14.900 describes the insertion of fear and cleavage sites 26:14.900 --> 26:18.540 into coronaviruses and them spraying them into bad caves 26:18.540 --> 26:22.380 by eco-health alliance, was likely a fake. 26:22.380 --> 26:25.100 I said that the moment that anybody showed it to me, 26:25.100 --> 26:26.940 I said, that's gotta be a fake. 26:26.940 --> 26:29.860 There's no way that anybody would've written 26:29.860 --> 26:31.780 that grant proposal and if they did write that 26:31.780 --> 26:33.620 grant proposal, they wrote it just so that people 26:33.620 --> 26:35.580 would believe that these experiments would be done. 26:35.620 --> 26:38.220 They're ridiculous and even if they did them, 26:38.220 --> 26:41.260 my current conclusion is this doesn't create 26:41.260 --> 26:44.820 pandemic potential, but it does create this ongoing debate 26:44.820 --> 26:46.900 about whether that's pandemic potential or not, 26:46.900 --> 26:49.020 which is the scooby-doo to begin with. 26:49.020 --> 26:51.180 So this guy was involved in that. 26:51.180 --> 26:52.420 He actually came to my house. 26:52.420 --> 26:54.380 He's one of the people who claims that he released 26:54.380 --> 26:57.220 the diffuse proposal to the public. 26:57.220 --> 27:00.220 Now, why is this important with regard to Kevin McKernan? 27:00.220 --> 27:02.540 Well, Kevin McKernan is this guy who worked 27:02.540 --> 27:05.140 for the Human Genome Project. 27:05.140 --> 27:08.700 He's not a doctor or a PhD, but he's a very clever guy. 27:08.700 --> 27:10.820 He's sold a lot of patents to different companies, 27:10.820 --> 27:11.900 a lot of companies. 27:11.900 --> 27:14.340 He's sold or got bought out because he's got a lot 27:14.340 --> 27:16.180 of ideas about how to sequence DNA. 27:16.180 --> 27:18.740 So there's no question that he's sharp as a knife. 27:18.740 --> 27:21.020 The deal is, though, is that he's been on my stream, 27:21.020 --> 27:24.700 at least twice he came on my stream in the first two years 27:24.700 --> 27:26.980 to talk about the transfection, to talk about 27:26.980 --> 27:29.260 the RNA impurities, to talk about what would happen 27:29.260 --> 27:31.500 when they code on optimized the RNA. 27:31.500 --> 27:34.220 And so we had an ongoing relationship, 27:34.220 --> 27:36.420 but at some point in time, that ongoing relationship 27:36.420 --> 27:38.780 tumbled and stopped, because I said 27:38.780 --> 27:41.780 that the double-stranded DNA in the shot 27:41.780 --> 27:44.300 was probably not the worst thing that's in there. 27:44.300 --> 27:47.060 And even if that wasn't in there, it would still be bad, 27:47.060 --> 27:48.940 which is what I thought we agreed on already 27:48.940 --> 27:51.820 with the previous two times we had discussed this. 27:51.820 --> 27:53.700 However, that kind of fell apart. 27:53.700 --> 27:55.500 Why is that interesting? 27:55.500 --> 27:57.580 Well, it's interesting because after being blocked 27:57.580 --> 27:59.980 for over a year, it looks like Robert Malone 27:59.980 --> 28:04.420 is promoting Kevin McKernan and a particular article. 28:04.420 --> 28:07.340 It's a particular article about the diffuse proposal 28:07.340 --> 28:11.540 and about how the diffuse proposal has had some extra evidence 28:11.540 --> 28:18.540 brought forth because a FOIA request reported by Emily Koff 28:20.620 --> 28:23.180 has shown that they ordered some of the enzymes 28:23.180 --> 28:25.100 that would have been needed in the proposal, 28:25.100 --> 28:27.020 that they had some email conversations 28:27.020 --> 28:29.060 about the contents of the proposal. 28:29.060 --> 28:33.900 So these other orbiting documents are argued 28:33.900 --> 28:36.700 by Robert Malone, Kevin McKernan, 28:36.700 --> 28:39.300 a guy by the name of Archimetic, and Jessica Rose, 28:39.300 --> 28:43.780 all to be further evidence that the diffuse proposal 28:43.780 --> 28:46.820 is real, that they actually put fear and cleavage sites 28:46.820 --> 28:49.620 into coronaviruses and they sprayed them into bat caves. 28:49.620 --> 28:52.700 And so the implication is, is that they made it 28:52.700 --> 28:54.900 and that an RNA did circulate the globe 28:54.900 --> 28:57.980 for the last four years and is still circulating. 28:58.020 --> 28:59.940 Now, I wanna put reference to the fact 28:59.940 --> 29:02.580 that I also wrote an article about this at the time 29:02.580 --> 29:05.580 that the paper came out with, none other than Charles Rixi, 29:05.580 --> 29:07.860 that guy that came to my house, 29:07.860 --> 29:12.420 and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in the CHD Defender. 29:12.420 --> 29:15.540 In that article, I acknowledge that the diffuse proposal 29:15.540 --> 29:19.860 has this methodology in it, but I was already at that point 29:19.860 --> 29:22.420 telling Bobby that you have to consider the possibility 29:22.420 --> 29:25.500 that the diffuse proposal is a fake with the design 29:25.500 --> 29:27.940 of trying to get people to buy into this lab leak thing 29:27.940 --> 29:32.340 because a lab leak implies a virus with unknown potential. 29:32.340 --> 29:34.300 It could be an unknown level of deadly, 29:34.300 --> 29:39.020 an unknown level of stable, an unknown level of whatever 29:39.020 --> 29:42.020 because it's not natural and that's the whole, 29:42.020 --> 29:43.660 that's the whole beauty of the Scooby-Doo. 29:43.660 --> 29:45.940 Once you start accepting this as a mystery, 29:45.940 --> 29:48.820 you need to solve, you're accepting that boogeyman. 29:49.820 --> 29:52.660 And so what's interesting about the promotion of this 29:52.660 --> 29:54.860 is that it all seems to be a concerted effort 29:54.860 --> 29:56.820 to make diffuse real again. 29:56.820 --> 29:58.060 Why is that interesting? 29:58.060 --> 30:02.020 Well, because I think this all spun out of control 30:02.020 --> 30:05.100 when I started to talk about what clones are. 30:05.100 --> 30:07.220 And I think that this has a lot to do with this 30:07.220 --> 30:09.900 because if you look in the comments section 30:09.900 --> 30:13.420 of this actual post, you will find a comment 30:13.420 --> 30:16.820 about Kevin McCurnan, the author of this, 30:16.820 --> 30:20.860 makes to a subscriber or follower of me. 30:22.180 --> 30:23.660 And so I just wanna read this. 30:23.660 --> 30:26.780 I know it's sometimes annoying to have somebody read something 30:26.780 --> 30:29.980 but it's a little small and I wanna make some points 30:29.980 --> 30:31.700 about what this is and then we're gonna listen 30:31.700 --> 30:35.020 to what we're gonna discuss what this is really all about. 30:35.020 --> 30:38.660 So this is somebody who said that what about clones 30:38.660 --> 30:42.180 and the fact that RNA can't go around the world 30:42.180 --> 30:43.940 with high fidelity for many years. 30:43.940 --> 30:47.500 That's the basic 30,000 foot message 30:47.500 --> 30:49.940 that I've had for a while you're probably familiar with. 30:49.940 --> 30:52.340 This is common, remember this is a response 30:52.340 --> 30:54.340 from Kevin McCurnan, the guy who has been going 30:54.340 --> 30:57.060 around the world on lots of podcasts 30:57.060 --> 30:59.780 telling people that there's double stranded DNA contamination 30:59.780 --> 31:02.900 in the shot and that that means that all these guys 31:02.900 --> 31:04.700 are bad guys and that it could explain 31:04.700 --> 31:06.580 all of the problems that we've been having 31:06.580 --> 31:09.660 which I really believe is a red herring. 31:09.660 --> 31:10.700 So here we go. 31:10.700 --> 31:14.940 This is common JJ Cooley bio-babble slash folklore. 31:14.940 --> 31:18.820 Coronaviruses circulate the globe every year. 31:18.820 --> 31:21.340 There is no reason why an engineered version 31:21.340 --> 31:23.660 could not do the same given it was derived 31:23.660 --> 31:25.820 from parts of viruses that have been doing this 31:25.820 --> 31:26.740 for millions of years. 31:26.740 --> 31:30.700 So I have the virology textbook behind my head here 31:30.700 --> 31:33.860 because I want to emphasize that Kevin McCurnan, 31:33.860 --> 31:35.860 the guy who worked for the Human Genome Project 31:35.860 --> 31:39.180 and now has a marijuana genetics company 31:39.180 --> 31:42.180 I mean and lives on the Atlantic Ocean 31:42.180 --> 31:45.060 in a very beautiful house whose brothers 31:45.060 --> 31:48.540 have several companies about testing for cancer 31:48.540 --> 31:52.260 and that his father was an absolutely giant 31:53.260 --> 31:56.500 set their family up really well as a successful businessman. 31:56.500 --> 32:00.780 This guy is no business, no reason to waste any of his time 32:00.780 --> 32:03.580 coming against a guy who's renting his house in Pittsburgh 32:03.580 --> 32:07.020 and streams from his garage with less than 3000 people. 32:07.020 --> 32:12.020 But here he is already 100% on the virology that the NIH 32:13.540 --> 32:16.780 and the who and the CDC and everybody else 32:16.780 --> 32:19.180 would love you to believe coronaviruses circulate 32:19.180 --> 32:20.620 the globe every year and there's no reason 32:20.620 --> 32:23.220 why an engineered one couldn't do the same. 32:23.220 --> 32:26.220 In this case, someone spent the effort to hyper optimize 32:26.220 --> 32:28.420 the COVID-19 ACE2 binding affinity 32:28.420 --> 32:30.500 so that would spread far and wide. 32:30.500 --> 32:32.860 That's weird because the first year and a half 32:32.860 --> 32:34.820 we were debating about the fact that it had a fear 32:34.820 --> 32:38.740 and cleavage site which made it very infectious. 32:38.740 --> 32:41.180 Now he's saying that it was actually the ACE2 affinity 32:41.180 --> 32:42.020 that caused that. 32:42.020 --> 32:44.540 I thought the ACE2 affinity had something more to do 32:45.020 --> 32:50.020 with how many people it would infect or how easily 32:50.260 --> 32:51.100 it could infect people. 32:51.100 --> 32:53.140 But the fact that it would go throughout the body 32:53.140 --> 32:55.620 and be very systemic and that when you coughed it out 32:55.620 --> 32:57.340 it would already be ready to bind 32:57.340 --> 32:59.100 was the fear and cleavage site. 32:59.100 --> 33:02.300 The fault in this logic is assuming the spread initiated 33:02.300 --> 33:05.580 when Chinese claimed it did in 2019 33:05.580 --> 33:07.900 when in fact there's evidence of prior circulation. 33:07.900 --> 33:09.980 This is also important because this is the opposite 33:09.980 --> 33:11.220 of what I said. 33:11.220 --> 33:13.700 Prior circulation gives time for it to achieve 33:13.780 --> 33:14.820 an endemic state. 33:14.820 --> 33:17.700 We've already said that it's likely that the background 33:17.700 --> 33:22.700 endemic RNA signal is being confounded with new spread. 33:23.260 --> 33:25.940 The most efficient mechanism would be the package of virus 33:25.940 --> 33:27.900 and infect a few people in the city. 33:27.900 --> 33:32.100 Exactly as Giordano's lecture tells us 33:32.100 --> 33:33.900 and exactly as I've been teaching 33:33.900 --> 33:36.820 for the last almost three years. 33:36.820 --> 33:41.820 So again, this is a January 19th, 2024 post 33:41.820 --> 33:46.820 about my ideas and he says that the seeding clone hypothesis 33:47.540 --> 33:52.060 is chemtrail retarded, dropping clones everywhere, 33:52.060 --> 33:54.220 hoping for magical transfection to occur 33:54.220 --> 33:56.100 while having an endless parade of spies 33:56.100 --> 33:59.460 dropping spreading these clones around his keystone cop 33:59.460 --> 34:01.700 when packaged virus will perform 34:01.700 --> 34:03.260 all this skullduggery for you. 34:03.260 --> 34:05.660 So he wants you to believe that viruses 34:05.660 --> 34:07.420 are something very different than clones. 34:07.460 --> 34:12.460 When virology acknowledges and actually thousands of papers 34:13.300 --> 34:15.700 that clones are their best approximation 34:15.700 --> 34:17.780 of what they can barely find in nature. 34:17.780 --> 34:22.100 So it's a direct inversion of what I have to believe he knows 34:22.100 --> 34:24.540 is the truth about RNA virology. 34:24.540 --> 34:27.220 You expose yourself to infinite more disclosure points 34:27.220 --> 34:28.060 gonna get caught. 34:28.060 --> 34:29.940 So leaking the virus provides camouflage, 34:29.940 --> 34:31.700 plausible diet ability. 34:31.700 --> 34:33.700 So here we are again being forced back 34:33.700 --> 34:35.420 into solving the mystery. 34:35.420 --> 34:36.860 So this is the final insult. 34:36.860 --> 34:40.980 The keystone cop clone chemtrail hypothesis requires teams 34:40.980 --> 34:43.980 of covert people and frankly is stupid 34:43.980 --> 34:45.620 if you know how to package a virus. 34:45.620 --> 34:48.900 Well, this is curious because that's not the argument 34:48.900 --> 34:49.740 that I'm making. 34:49.740 --> 34:51.260 So I wanna clarify that first. 34:52.460 --> 34:56.860 The argument that I'm making is that the cartoon version 34:56.860 --> 34:58.780 of the infectious cycle is incorrect 34:58.780 --> 35:00.260 where a virus goes into your lungs 35:00.260 --> 35:02.300 that makes copies of itself and then you cough it out. 35:02.300 --> 35:04.620 It's much more complicated than that. 35:04.700 --> 35:07.260 One of the very early clues that we had of this 35:07.260 --> 35:08.780 was when Robert Malone told us 35:08.780 --> 35:10.660 that the vast majority of viral particles 35:10.660 --> 35:14.620 are non-infectious, their replication incompetent. 35:14.620 --> 35:17.460 And so that's what's represented at the cartoon over here. 35:17.460 --> 35:20.860 I believe this is also the reason why a lot of the objections 35:20.860 --> 35:25.220 of the no virus camp are actually very much spot on 35:25.220 --> 35:28.060 and have a great relevance to our trying to understand 35:28.060 --> 35:30.220 the infectious cycle for real if there is one. 35:30.220 --> 35:32.820 And I'm open to the possibility that there isn't. 35:32.820 --> 35:34.700 So the first thing that I'd like you to imagine 35:34.700 --> 35:37.340 or think about is virus packaging 35:37.340 --> 35:39.060 and what that has to do with. 35:39.060 --> 35:41.980 This is a cartoon, a computer model of viral packaging. 35:41.980 --> 35:46.420 The idea is again, that little tiny red line there 35:46.420 --> 35:49.180 is the mRNA and it's supposed to be coiled 35:49.180 --> 35:52.500 around the end protein and then a bunch of end proteins 35:52.500 --> 35:56.540 brings that full genome of the virus into the endosome 35:56.540 --> 35:59.900 and the endosome has the spike protein on the inside of it. 35:59.900 --> 36:03.020 And so when it invaginates like that, 36:03.020 --> 36:05.380 then you get this vesicle forming on the inside 36:05.380 --> 36:08.620 of the endosome and that's supposed to be the free virus. 36:08.620 --> 36:11.420 Now the question becomes, how in the world 36:11.420 --> 36:12.940 is this all orchestrated? 36:12.940 --> 36:14.940 How does your cell just get told? 36:14.940 --> 36:17.540 Okay, take this and wrap this all around 36:17.540 --> 36:21.100 and put this in there and arrange this that way? 36:21.100 --> 36:25.100 The idea that the word hijack is sufficient 36:25.100 --> 36:28.700 to justify this cartoon as being fact 36:28.740 --> 36:31.620 is absolutely unacceptable. 36:31.620 --> 36:34.660 And that's again, part of the no virus people's objection 36:34.660 --> 36:36.620 that I think is really spot on. 36:36.620 --> 36:41.220 And in fact, there's almost everything that they say 36:41.220 --> 36:43.700 is true, it's just the things that they chose not to say 36:43.700 --> 36:45.300 for two or three years that frustrate me. 36:45.300 --> 36:47.380 But again, it could just be that I was an idiot 36:47.380 --> 36:48.900 and stuck with these people. 36:48.900 --> 36:52.100 This I want to, whoa, sorry about that, 36:52.100 --> 36:53.940 that's from my stream. 36:53.940 --> 36:58.300 So I would like to, oh, come on, end. 36:58.300 --> 37:01.020 I would like to just give you a brief introduction 37:01.020 --> 37:03.420 to RNA viruses to make sure that you understand 37:03.420 --> 37:04.260 where we are. 37:04.260 --> 37:07.060 This is influenza A and influenza A, 37:07.060 --> 37:08.620 if you can see my arrow is right here 37:08.620 --> 37:10.060 and it's binding with the cell, 37:10.060 --> 37:11.860 it's gonna go into the endosome 37:11.860 --> 37:14.540 and then it's gonna release into this thing 37:14.540 --> 37:19.460 a negative strand RNA and some proteins which can copy it. 37:19.460 --> 37:21.860 So the first thing to remember in case you're unaware 37:21.860 --> 37:23.940 of this is that flu and measles 37:23.940 --> 37:26.380 are negative strand RNA viruses 37:26.380 --> 37:29.340 that they can't be read by our ribosomes. 37:29.340 --> 37:33.500 So in order for an influenza virus to be a useful particle, 37:33.500 --> 37:36.620 it also needs to have all of the accessory proteins present 37:36.620 --> 37:38.420 so that that negative strand RNA 37:38.420 --> 37:40.260 when it's released into the cell 37:40.260 --> 37:43.940 will be reliably copied into a positive strand RNA 37:43.940 --> 37:48.380 which can be then translated into proteins by our ribosomes. 37:48.380 --> 37:52.020 Now, that's a pretty interesting scenario, right? 37:52.020 --> 37:57.020 Because then if we go back to this illusion here, 37:57.020 --> 38:00.180 then in a flu virus, when a flu virus is assembled, 38:00.180 --> 38:03.260 not only do you need to get a full genome in there 38:03.260 --> 38:04.460 or in the flu viruses case, 38:04.460 --> 38:07.380 actually you need to get about eight circular RNAs 38:07.380 --> 38:09.500 into the same virus, 38:09.500 --> 38:11.940 but you also need to get some of these proteins in there 38:11.940 --> 38:12.980 because if they're not in there, 38:12.980 --> 38:14.680 then this virus will be useless. 38:16.580 --> 38:20.300 So contrast that to the positive stranded RNA virus 38:20.300 --> 38:22.700 of coronavirus and you will see that actually 38:22.700 --> 38:27.540 the translation of the full genome occurs immediately 38:27.540 --> 38:29.100 and you produce N proteins 38:29.100 --> 38:33.220 and you produce this primary translating poly protein. 38:34.260 --> 38:39.140 And so these compound proteins, something, something, 38:39.140 --> 38:44.060 apparently can copy sub-genomic RNAs right away 38:44.060 --> 38:45.620 to genomic RNAs or sorry, 38:45.620 --> 38:48.300 genomic RNAs right away to genomic RNAs you see 38:48.300 --> 38:50.540 in this picture here, this is from like science magazine. 38:50.540 --> 38:53.940 So if you think that this is kind of a bad picture, 38:53.940 --> 38:57.100 I agree, but here you have just a little cartoon 38:57.100 --> 39:00.260 that seems to indicate that this amount of protein 39:00.260 --> 39:03.260 is capable of making copies of the single stranded 39:03.260 --> 39:06.500 genomic RNA, but it's also capable 39:06.500 --> 39:09.420 of making these single stranded genomic RNA, 39:09.420 --> 39:12.740 sub-genomic RNAs that are little tiny ones here. 39:12.740 --> 39:15.660 And they don't really explain much more about it. 39:15.660 --> 39:17.060 It's again, a lot of hand waving, 39:17.060 --> 39:19.020 but again, you can see the task. 39:19.020 --> 39:22.500 None of these RNAs are supposed to be packaged. 39:22.500 --> 39:27.500 Only the full genome should get packaged and shipped out. 39:27.700 --> 39:30.220 And yet when we've looked at the expression 39:30.220 --> 39:34.300 of these positive stranded genomes in cell cultures, 39:34.300 --> 39:37.620 we see that the preponderance of mRNA's 39:37.620 --> 39:40.500 that are produced are actually all these sub-genomic RNAs, 39:40.500 --> 39:43.300 like hundreds of thousands of times more 39:43.300 --> 39:45.340 than any full genomes that are made. 39:45.340 --> 39:47.700 And so this seems to kind of, 39:47.700 --> 39:50.420 to support the idea of what Robert Malone said, 39:50.420 --> 39:52.420 which is the vast majority of viral particles 39:52.420 --> 39:54.620 don't end up with a full genome inside of them 39:54.620 --> 39:56.900 because the full genome is very rarely copied 39:56.900 --> 40:00.260 with very rarely copied successfully. 40:00.260 --> 40:02.700 And then every time it is copied successfully, 40:02.700 --> 40:04.540 there are a number of errors in it 40:04.540 --> 40:07.740 because of the way that RNA is copied. 40:07.740 --> 40:11.220 Now, it is possible in the realm of possibility 40:11.220 --> 40:13.780 that this little area here in the cartoon 40:13.820 --> 40:16.060 will be found to be quite high fidelity 40:16.060 --> 40:18.860 and Jay's all wrong and he's an idiot and he can go home. 40:18.860 --> 40:20.380 But I really doubt that. 40:20.380 --> 40:22.860 And more importantly, there's no real, 40:22.860 --> 40:24.900 there's no real firm molecular evidence 40:24.900 --> 40:27.540 for the fidelity here at this step. 40:27.540 --> 40:30.740 They can say that it's here or it's there, 40:30.740 --> 40:33.740 but the bottom line is that it's not like 40:33.740 --> 40:36.500 copying double stranded DNA. 40:36.500 --> 40:38.940 And so you're already at lower fidelity with that. 40:38.940 --> 40:41.780 And so what is actually happening here is most likely 40:41.780 --> 40:44.540 that these RNAs, these viruses, 40:44.540 --> 40:46.980 are interacting with existing machinery 40:46.980 --> 40:49.700 that already packages things, 40:49.700 --> 40:52.860 that already puts RNA or DNA into a package 40:52.860 --> 40:55.500 and already has proteins on the outside 40:55.500 --> 40:57.260 because then it would make a lot more sense. 40:57.260 --> 40:59.980 In other words, it's kind of like a cuckoo clock. 40:59.980 --> 41:01.740 And if you hijack a cuckoo clock, 41:01.740 --> 41:03.820 you can't make toast. 41:03.820 --> 41:05.540 You can make it ring at the wrong time. 41:05.540 --> 41:07.340 You can make it make funny noises, 41:07.340 --> 41:08.740 but you can't make it make toast. 41:08.740 --> 41:10.820 And I don't think that a virus can go into a cell 41:10.820 --> 41:13.300 and make it do something that it already doesn't do. 41:13.300 --> 41:15.860 Cells already package exosomes and send signals 41:15.860 --> 41:16.700 to one another. 41:16.700 --> 41:19.900 And so I think that this is just hijacking of that signal. 41:19.900 --> 41:23.860 But what that means is that what we are doing 41:23.860 --> 41:25.300 is we are packaging RNA. 41:25.300 --> 41:27.620 And the vast majority of the RNA that we find in there 41:27.620 --> 41:31.300 is either low fidelity copy or even a impartial copy. 41:31.300 --> 41:34.100 And that's the problem with what they find 41:34.100 --> 41:35.580 when they look in these papers, 41:35.580 --> 41:37.500 what they find when they look in the wild. 41:37.500 --> 41:39.660 And so this is the analogy I've come up with. 41:39.660 --> 41:41.980 They are more like mixed tapes. 41:41.980 --> 41:44.460 And so you cannot grow them in the wild. 41:44.460 --> 41:47.220 A mixed tape is from the old days 41:47.220 --> 41:48.700 where if you bought this in the store, 41:48.700 --> 41:49.580 it would sound really good. 41:49.580 --> 41:51.060 But if you copied it for your friend, 41:51.060 --> 41:52.140 it would already have this hiss 41:52.140 --> 41:53.700 and it wouldn't sound very well. 41:53.700 --> 41:56.300 So you could make a mixed tape for your girlfriend 41:56.300 --> 41:59.580 and put all the songs that reminded you of her on one tape. 41:59.580 --> 42:01.260 And it would sound okay. 42:01.260 --> 42:04.060 But if you wanted to make a copy of that mixed tape, 42:04.060 --> 42:05.660 it would sound really awful. 42:05.660 --> 42:09.860 And this lacking a loss of fidelity upon each copy, 42:09.860 --> 42:12.780 there is a, there is a equivalent to that 42:12.780 --> 42:16.220 in the copying of RNA that is orders of magnitude 42:16.220 --> 42:17.540 more important than the copy, 42:17.540 --> 42:19.780 than in the copying of DNA. 42:19.780 --> 42:24.100 And that's why an analogy for RNA versus DNA, 42:24.100 --> 42:27.700 useful one might be an audio tape versus a CD. 42:27.700 --> 42:31.340 If you make a mixed CD and then you made a copy of that CD, 42:31.340 --> 42:33.380 it would be a pretty decent copy to listen to, 42:33.380 --> 42:35.940 but it's not the same with audio tape. 42:35.940 --> 42:39.620 And so I'm making the argument that like audio tape, 42:39.620 --> 42:42.540 an RNA signal found in the anus of a bat 42:42.540 --> 42:45.260 or found in the lung of a sick child 42:45.260 --> 42:47.420 is not a culturable signal 42:47.420 --> 42:50.580 that can be made infinite quantities of, 42:50.580 --> 42:52.140 you can't just grab it and go 42:52.140 --> 42:54.100 and then put some more in the culture 42:54.100 --> 42:55.300 and pull some more out. 42:55.300 --> 42:57.900 And that's always been a problem for them. 42:57.900 --> 42:59.260 And the way that they overcome it 42:59.260 --> 43:02.340 is a technique that is who's, 43:04.340 --> 43:06.940 the credit for inventing it has been given to Ralph Barrick 43:06.940 --> 43:09.660 by the narrative, by the TV, but in reality, 43:09.660 --> 43:12.620 these are just standard bench techniques 43:12.620 --> 43:15.140 for putting two pieces of DNA together. 43:15.140 --> 43:18.380 And in this case, the DNA that they're putting together, 43:18.380 --> 43:21.380 that they're ligating together is actually DNA 43:21.380 --> 43:23.940 that is the copy of a genome that they say 43:23.940 --> 43:25.060 they found in the wild. 43:25.060 --> 43:27.340 So they make this DNA copy, 43:27.380 --> 43:29.420 and I put a little CD here to indicate 43:29.420 --> 43:31.660 that this is a high fidelity copy. 43:31.660 --> 43:34.620 And because a coronavirus genome is so long, 43:34.620 --> 43:37.900 they need to divide it in a few plasmids. 43:37.900 --> 43:40.180 And so that's where the ligation comes in. 43:40.180 --> 43:45.180 You have five pieces that you can grow in a bacterial culture 43:45.340 --> 43:47.900 and then those five pieces need to be ligated together 43:47.900 --> 43:49.300 into one genome. 43:49.300 --> 43:52.860 And that ligation step requires a sort of puzzle piece 43:52.860 --> 43:56.700 to be cut in both ends of those plasmids. 43:56.700 --> 43:59.140 And then that puzzle piece cut is actually done 43:59.140 --> 44:01.020 by a specific enzyme. 44:01.020 --> 44:04.380 And so with very clever choices of codons, 44:04.380 --> 44:07.020 you can actually make an assembly kit 44:07.020 --> 44:10.660 for coronavirus genomes that you can kind of insert pieces 44:10.660 --> 44:14.980 into and this methodology has been blamed for, 44:14.980 --> 44:19.300 again, that sewing icon that I put on the worst case scenario. 44:19.300 --> 44:22.420 It is the stitching of things together 44:22.420 --> 44:24.540 and using this technique to do it 44:24.540 --> 44:28.540 that then leads to a huge quantity of DNA. 44:28.540 --> 44:30.540 And this is the part where Kevin McCurnan 44:30.540 --> 44:35.140 seems to want to try and obfuscate the idea of clones. 44:35.140 --> 44:37.180 The problem is with clones is that 44:37.180 --> 44:40.140 when you make this DNA in a bacterial culture, 44:40.140 --> 44:42.620 you can make as much as you want. 44:42.620 --> 44:44.860 And so when you convert it to RNA, 44:44.860 --> 44:48.940 there's only one step from converting it to DNA and RNA. 44:48.940 --> 44:51.740 So there's a limited amount of errors that will be made. 44:51.740 --> 44:56.100 And since you're moving from a pure template of DNA 44:56.100 --> 44:58.620 to a limited amount of errors of RNA, 44:58.620 --> 45:02.580 you will produce a purity of this full genome 45:02.580 --> 45:05.420 that doesn't exist when you sample these from nature. 45:05.420 --> 45:07.700 Because when you sample them from nature, 45:07.700 --> 45:10.780 the mRNA makes a bunch of subgenomic RNAs 45:10.780 --> 45:12.780 that overwhelm the RNA signal 45:12.780 --> 45:16.420 and the full genome is almost undetectable. 45:16.420 --> 45:18.460 And this gets overcome if you do it this way 45:18.460 --> 45:21.580 because you have a DNA copy of the full genome 45:21.580 --> 45:23.140 that you convert to RNA. 45:23.140 --> 45:26.540 So there's no subgenomic RNA produced. 45:26.540 --> 45:29.140 You're not even using an RNA-dependent RNA polymerase. 45:29.140 --> 45:30.620 You're using an RNA polymerase 45:30.620 --> 45:33.300 that has been commercially optimized. 45:33.300 --> 45:34.940 And what this allows you to do 45:34.940 --> 45:38.020 is produce cell cultures that are replicable 45:38.020 --> 45:40.620 and everybody can use your DNA. 45:40.620 --> 45:44.060 You can just make more of it from the DNA that you made. 45:44.060 --> 45:46.620 You can make more DNA if you want. 45:46.620 --> 45:50.020 You can also make replicable animal models 45:50.020 --> 45:52.260 of these infections and you can also share it with people. 45:52.260 --> 45:55.980 The worst part about this is just like the mRNA shot, 45:55.980 --> 45:59.820 you can produce industrial quantities of this. 45:59.820 --> 46:01.740 It doesn't have to be small batch brewing. 46:01.740 --> 46:05.620 You can do a giant batch of this CDNA 46:05.620 --> 46:07.380 and then convert it all to RNA 46:07.380 --> 46:10.900 and you will have a large quantity of infectious RNA 46:10.900 --> 46:15.060 that could have never, ever, ever, ever been generated 46:15.060 --> 46:17.380 in any other way because of the nature 46:17.380 --> 46:19.460 of RNA copying and fidelity. 46:20.500 --> 46:25.140 And so they have indeed used this for all RNA papers forever. 46:25.140 --> 46:26.300 This is what they do now. 46:26.300 --> 46:28.340 They find a signal, they make a clone, 46:28.340 --> 46:31.780 and now if you want to use my clone, I can send it to you. 46:31.780 --> 46:34.620 This is an example of a paper that was done in 2019 46:34.620 --> 46:36.620 right before the pandemic where they use 46:36.620 --> 46:39.940 human coronavirus 229E and they make a clone of it. 46:41.380 --> 46:44.220 They take this clone and they put it into a cell culture 46:44.220 --> 46:46.540 and they look for these subgenomic RNAs 46:46.540 --> 46:48.860 to be transcribed and they're trying to look for 46:48.860 --> 46:51.740 the relative ratio that they're produced in. 46:53.340 --> 46:54.780 And so I'm gonna skip this slide. 46:54.780 --> 46:59.780 When they find the, this is kind of a hard graph to read 47:00.100 --> 47:04.340 but what you're looking for are these signals here 47:04.340 --> 47:07.780 and what level they are relative to the x-axis, 47:07.780 --> 47:09.500 sorry, the y-axis, hello. 47:10.420 --> 47:14.100 And so as you go up in the y-axis, 47:14.100 --> 47:15.940 you go up in abundance 47:15.980 --> 47:18.660 and the coverage here, so what you're covering 47:18.660 --> 47:20.940 is the full genome which is listed on the bottom. 47:20.940 --> 47:25.940 So this ORF1A and ORF1B are where all these magic proteins 47:26.220 --> 47:28.340 are which are able to copy the viral genome 47:28.340 --> 47:31.100 but also make the subgenomic RNAs that are necessary 47:31.100 --> 47:35.460 for viral replication and assembly according to virologists. 47:35.460 --> 47:39.180 The interesting thing is is when copying begins 47:39.180 --> 47:43.740 using this clone, the vast majority of subgenomic RNAs 47:43.780 --> 47:47.100 that are present are the M protein, the M protein, 47:47.100 --> 47:49.700 the E protein, a protein called number four 47:49.700 --> 47:51.780 and the S protein. 47:51.780 --> 47:55.900 And in fact, when you look for full length RNAs, 47:56.780 --> 47:58.380 they only found two. 47:59.820 --> 48:03.780 So while there were somewhere between five and 8,000 copies 48:03.780 --> 48:06.100 of the N protein in some of these transcripts, 48:06.100 --> 48:08.020 a lot of these are high numbers 48:08.020 --> 48:09.100 and they're different lengths 48:09.100 --> 48:11.420 and different variations of that fragment, 48:11.460 --> 48:14.300 there were only two fragments that could qualify 48:14.300 --> 48:15.900 as anywhere near full length. 48:15.900 --> 48:19.580 Now we could have missed some, except the problem is 48:19.580 --> 48:22.220 is that we've seen this same signal even in the old days 48:22.220 --> 48:23.700 when we were doing it in old ways, 48:23.700 --> 48:28.220 when we were still really just being able to look at mRNA 48:28.220 --> 48:31.060 and looking at whole fractions in gel pull downs, 48:31.060 --> 48:35.500 they still saw the full genome is almost invisible, 48:35.500 --> 48:37.060 it's almost impossible to find 48:37.060 --> 48:39.820 and so this is a very consistent signal 48:39.860 --> 48:41.580 and it's probably not the limitations 48:41.580 --> 48:43.820 of nanopore sequencing in that latest paper 48:43.820 --> 48:45.340 because this signals the same. 48:46.780 --> 48:49.260 When a coronavirus RNA replicates, 48:49.260 --> 48:51.500 it very rarely makes a full copy of itself. 48:51.500 --> 48:53.540 So how in the world are these things spreading 48:53.540 --> 48:55.260 from person to person? 48:55.260 --> 48:57.900 It definitely isn't the way that the cartoon describes it. 48:57.900 --> 49:00.220 That's the reason why this story doesn't make sense 49:00.220 --> 49:01.820 and it's really hard to culture. 49:01.820 --> 49:04.180 Well, if the virus was making perfect copies of itself, 49:04.180 --> 49:06.660 it would be easy to culture, but it's not. 49:06.660 --> 49:08.900 It's making very poor copies of itself. 49:08.940 --> 49:11.860 Many of the copies are non-replication competent. 49:11.860 --> 49:15.740 That makes it difficult to culture coronaviruses from the wild. 49:15.740 --> 49:17.580 The solution that they've come up with 49:17.580 --> 49:21.100 is to take that RNA sequence that they find in the wild, 49:21.100 --> 49:23.860 turn it into cDNA constructs that can be grown 49:23.860 --> 49:26.580 in high quantities in a bacterial culture. 49:26.580 --> 49:28.780 They can then use any number of ways 49:28.780 --> 49:31.660 to convert that cDNA to RNA. 49:31.660 --> 49:32.860 You don't have to get into that now 49:32.860 --> 49:35.260 and in fact because we're gonna talk with somebody 49:35.260 --> 49:37.260 like Kevin McCurnan, it would be really silly for me 49:37.260 --> 49:39.980 to try and wax intellectual about all the details of that. 49:39.980 --> 49:42.540 But the point is, is that when they do this, 49:42.540 --> 49:47.300 they are able to create a purity level of a single copy, 49:47.300 --> 49:51.540 many, many copies of a pure RNA that can't exist in nature 49:51.540 --> 49:54.260 because of the nature of replicating RNA. 49:54.260 --> 49:57.380 Now, the trick is, is that up until now, 49:57.380 --> 50:01.940 no one has really tried to measure the infectious ratio 50:01.940 --> 50:04.580 of a coronavirus swarm in an animal or in nature 50:04.580 --> 50:05.580 or anywhere else. 50:05.580 --> 50:07.940 But my guess is it's a lot different than one to one 50:07.940 --> 50:10.260 or 10 to one or even 50 to one. 50:10.260 --> 50:13.660 The point is, is that if you make an RNA copy, 50:13.660 --> 50:16.180 or sorry, a DNA master copy, 50:16.180 --> 50:18.460 you can make lots of copies of the same RNA 50:18.460 --> 50:20.780 and you will have averted this problem 50:20.780 --> 50:23.660 that makes it so difficult to culture coronaviruses 50:23.660 --> 50:24.700 from the wild. 50:24.700 --> 50:25.540 So I'm gonna- 50:25.540 --> 50:27.980 JJ, are you suggesting that they're making, 50:28.980 --> 50:30.820 so you know, if you put that infectious clone 50:30.820 --> 50:31.820 into a mammalian cell, 50:31.820 --> 50:33.980 you're gonna get a very similar output 50:33.980 --> 50:36.820 to what SARS does, right? 50:36.820 --> 50:40.020 The replicated machinery is gonna make this really odd array 50:40.020 --> 50:42.820 of different expression from the N gene, the M gene 50:43.940 --> 50:44.700 because it has to, right? 50:44.700 --> 50:46.780 If you wanna actually stoichiometrically put 50:46.780 --> 50:50.700 one genomic piece of DNA or RNA into a capsid, 50:50.700 --> 50:52.940 you have to make like a hundred to a thousand spikes, 50:52.940 --> 50:54.700 a hundred to a thousand, you know, 50:54.700 --> 50:56.100 N proteins, envelope proteins. 50:56.100 --> 50:57.980 So they're gonna express a lot more of that junk 50:57.980 --> 50:59.260 at the end of the molecule, 50:59.260 --> 51:01.180 just to make that assemble correctly. 51:01.180 --> 51:04.180 Are you suggesting that to do an infectious clone release, 51:04.180 --> 51:06.500 you'd have to like take the clones, 51:06.500 --> 51:08.820 grow them in a coli, like they're doing through the vaccines 51:08.820 --> 51:13.580 and then purify them and then make a lot of T7 like RNA off of it 51:13.580 --> 51:16.580 and then infect people with the RNA somehow? 51:16.580 --> 51:18.300 Because in that case, it would be linear, 51:18.300 --> 51:19.580 it'd all be one molecule, 51:19.580 --> 51:20.780 it wouldn't be all diced up 51:20.780 --> 51:23.900 and having this different type of expression profile 51:23.900 --> 51:25.500 that we see in nature. 51:25.500 --> 51:29.260 Right, so that's kind of my point is that if you did that, 51:29.260 --> 51:32.540 you would have an infectious clone would be 51:32.540 --> 51:36.380 and not an accurate representation of what SARS does 51:36.380 --> 51:38.300 when it's on its own. 51:38.300 --> 51:40.780 So the question becomes, ladies and gentlemen, 51:40.780 --> 51:43.260 what in the world is this all about? 51:44.300 --> 51:48.220 Why in the world all of a sudden in January of 2024, 51:48.220 --> 51:50.420 do I, after being blocked for a year 51:50.420 --> 51:52.220 and just kind of ignoring him, 51:52.220 --> 51:54.460 do I still get this kind of vitriol 51:54.460 --> 51:57.900 when we discussed it live over, 51:57.900 --> 52:00.300 that was in March of 2000 of last year, 52:00.300 --> 52:01.500 when we discussed it live, 52:01.500 --> 52:03.820 he didn't have, this went on. 52:03.820 --> 52:05.860 There was 15 more minutes of that discussion 52:05.860 --> 52:08.020 where we discussed all of these principles 52:08.020 --> 52:10.380 and he didn't think it was crazy. 52:10.380 --> 52:12.620 And yet now, yes, sir. 52:12.620 --> 52:14.460 Well, was that, 52:14.460 --> 52:16.540 we have had Kevin McGurnan on as a guest, 52:16.540 --> 52:18.980 but I can't remember what he looks like. 52:18.980 --> 52:19.940 Was that him then? 52:19.940 --> 52:21.740 That was him then, absolutely. 52:21.740 --> 52:22.580 Right. 52:22.580 --> 52:25.020 And so here he is calling me 52:25.020 --> 52:27.740 Keystone Cop clone chemtrail hypothesis 52:27.780 --> 52:30.300 when we've discussed it many times 52:30.300 --> 52:32.180 and he didn't call it this. 52:32.180 --> 52:33.020 And so I think- 52:33.020 --> 52:34.300 Well, he seemed a little bit exercised there, 52:34.300 --> 52:36.980 I think, when he was challenging you. 52:36.980 --> 52:37.820 That's okay. 52:37.820 --> 52:39.140 I don't have any problem with that. 52:39.140 --> 52:42.660 Oh, no, I know, you know, yes, okay. 52:42.660 --> 52:43.500 I was just calling it. 52:43.500 --> 52:45.380 So the first thing that he says is that 52:45.380 --> 52:47.260 in this comment is that 52:47.260 --> 52:49.980 coronavirus has circled the globe every year. 52:49.980 --> 52:52.020 He also says that they hyper optimized 52:52.020 --> 52:53.660 the receptor binding domain 52:53.660 --> 52:55.620 and that equals fast spread. 52:55.620 --> 52:57.140 Now that wasn't the way it was. 52:57.140 --> 52:59.420 It was actually, and we turned this off, 52:59.420 --> 53:01.300 it was actually the fear and cleavage site 53:01.300 --> 53:03.580 that was blamed for that for quite some time. 53:04.580 --> 53:06.140 Then we have this, 53:07.660 --> 53:08.500 then we have, 53:08.500 --> 53:10.580 it could not spread as fast as what he said. 53:10.580 --> 53:12.940 And so it has to be already endemic, 53:12.940 --> 53:16.300 but I've been explaining that to him 53:16.300 --> 53:18.060 that this is a background 53:18.060 --> 53:19.900 and that if there is a background 53:19.900 --> 53:21.620 that's being confounded by the PCR, 53:21.620 --> 53:22.540 then we would, 53:22.540 --> 53:23.820 we were just being misled. 53:23.820 --> 53:26.100 He is purposefully ignoring that 53:26.100 --> 53:28.740 for more than two years. 53:30.340 --> 53:31.180 And what? 53:31.180 --> 53:32.020 Kevin, why? 53:32.020 --> 53:33.100 Just let me go forward. 53:33.100 --> 53:33.940 Let me go forward. 53:33.940 --> 53:34.980 Ask it at the end. 53:34.980 --> 53:37.500 Seating clone hypothesis is chemtrail retarded 53:37.500 --> 53:39.220 is not a scientific discussion here. 53:39.220 --> 53:42.340 This is a multi-millionaire 53:42.340 --> 53:44.860 wasting his time on his own sub stack, 53:44.860 --> 53:48.020 trying to trash somebody who has 3,000 followers 53:48.020 --> 53:50.620 and was just laid off from CHD. 53:51.620 --> 53:55.180 Like why does he even need to waste his time doing this 53:55.180 --> 53:57.180 unless there is a reason? 53:57.180 --> 53:58.180 And the reason is, 53:58.180 --> 54:01.980 is because this idea is the right answer. 54:01.980 --> 54:04.460 You infect a few people with a clone 54:04.460 --> 54:06.220 so that you get the same sequence 54:06.220 --> 54:08.180 in any place that you look for it. 54:08.180 --> 54:11.420 And if it lasts for a little while or a few days, 54:11.420 --> 54:12.260 it doesn't matter. 54:12.260 --> 54:13.660 I don't know how long it will last. 54:13.660 --> 54:15.940 I don't know how much quantity they would use. 54:15.940 --> 54:17.140 I don't care. 54:17.140 --> 54:17.980 The point is, 54:17.980 --> 54:20.140 is that this biology is real. 54:20.140 --> 54:22.060 The papers are hundreds 54:22.060 --> 54:26.580 to argue about whether or not RNA replicates at this, 54:26.580 --> 54:28.420 at this fidelity or that fidelity 54:28.420 --> 54:30.060 doesn't change the fact that, 54:30.060 --> 54:32.700 that these clones are used 54:32.700 --> 54:36.580 to make coronavirus biology replicable 54:36.580 --> 54:39.380 in each, in each experiment. 54:39.380 --> 54:40.580 If you don't do that, 54:40.580 --> 54:42.780 then the moment you do an experiment with a coronavirus, 54:42.780 --> 54:45.460 you can't replicate it because it's gone. 54:45.460 --> 54:47.380 And so this Keystone COP, 54:47.380 --> 54:51.100 chemtrail hypothesis insult is actually an admission 54:51.100 --> 54:52.780 that this is actually real. 54:52.780 --> 54:55.900 There's no other way that this guy with a cannabis company 54:55.900 --> 54:59.100 is gonna be touring the world talking about these shots. 55:01.180 --> 55:02.940 And so leaking the viruses better, 55:02.940 --> 55:05.180 he's actually arguing that real viruses 55:05.180 --> 55:08.780 have attributes that clones don't. 55:10.620 --> 55:12.260 And the most important thing 55:12.260 --> 55:14.580 and to understand is that in all of his time, 55:14.580 --> 55:15.940 in all of his podcasts, 55:15.940 --> 55:17.980 in all of the microphones he's ever had, 55:17.980 --> 55:20.940 he's never once pointed out that on top of all this, 55:20.940 --> 55:23.940 they were really exaggerating the danger of whatever it was. 55:23.940 --> 55:25.780 And that the protocols in America 55:25.780 --> 55:28.420 probably caused mass casualty events 55:28.420 --> 55:30.380 that were misconstrued as spread. 55:30.380 --> 55:34.180 And so the defense of there are viruses. 55:34.180 --> 55:38.260 The defense of the relative replication competence 55:38.260 --> 55:40.340 of viruses is irrelevant. 55:40.340 --> 55:42.300 If you don't actually acknowledge 55:42.300 --> 55:47.300 that there's this giant body of misleading media coverage 55:47.500 --> 55:49.420 that went on for years. 55:49.420 --> 55:51.820 And these people ignore all of it 55:51.820 --> 55:53.980 and make us focus on clones 55:53.980 --> 55:56.060 and talk about whether or not I'm right 55:56.060 --> 55:59.060 or a little off on the replication competence 55:59.060 --> 56:01.940 of a particular gene in the coronavirus genome, 56:01.940 --> 56:04.260 it's absolutely absurd. 56:04.260 --> 56:05.260 And you can see it here 56:05.260 --> 56:08.620 because in that same video from March of last year, 56:10.020 --> 56:12.740 Jessica Rose says that it's the best idea she's ever heard 56:12.740 --> 56:14.140 and it explains almost everything. 56:14.140 --> 56:17.220 Here is the the sub-stack that she wrote after that article 56:17.220 --> 56:18.060 that says, by the way, 56:18.060 --> 56:19.660 massive thank you to Jonathan Cooley, 56:19.660 --> 56:21.220 Matthew Crawford, John Bodwin 56:21.220 --> 56:24.580 and Mark Giroudot for the Thursday night chats. 56:24.580 --> 56:26.020 You know who Mark Giroudot is? 56:26.020 --> 56:28.140 He's the guy who claims that it's a bolus effect. 56:28.140 --> 56:29.580 And if you just hit a vein 56:29.580 --> 56:31.660 that that's where autism comes from. 56:31.660 --> 56:33.540 You know who Matthew Crawford is. 56:33.540 --> 56:34.740 You know who John Bodwin is. 56:34.740 --> 56:37.340 You know who Jessica Rose is. 56:37.340 --> 56:42.100 This is a description of the Steve Kirsch steering committee 56:42.100 --> 56:43.900 that used to meet on every Thursday night 56:43.900 --> 56:45.940 where I would explain this stuff to these people 56:45.940 --> 56:47.900 that now ignore it. 56:47.900 --> 56:50.700 The only person who covers this idea is Matthew Crawford. 56:51.820 --> 56:54.900 Mark Giroudot insists that it's still just injection 56:54.900 --> 56:56.500 and missing the vein. 56:56.500 --> 56:59.220 John Bodwin is talking about what he needs to talk about 56:59.220 --> 57:00.980 and he's, every time he says 57:00.980 --> 57:03.580 that the protocols were murder, somebody cuts him off. 57:05.660 --> 57:08.700 We need to wake up to the idea that we have been lied to 57:08.700 --> 57:11.220 and that there are people who are actively lying to us. 57:11.220 --> 57:14.300 They are obfuscating the truth about this 57:14.300 --> 57:16.340 and they even go so far as to say 57:16.340 --> 57:18.100 that the viral swarm isn't real. 57:19.140 --> 57:20.740 Even though they have to admit 57:20.740 --> 57:22.700 that RNA cannot be copied perfectly, 57:22.700 --> 57:24.700 if it can't be copied perfectly, the swarm is real. 57:24.700 --> 57:25.540 Done. 57:27.860 --> 57:30.580 And so they have, there's an orchestrated campaign 57:30.580 --> 57:32.380 to make this diffuse proposal real 57:32.380 --> 57:34.700 so that this fear and cleavage site becomes real again 57:34.700 --> 57:36.620 and so that this cover-up becomes real again. 57:36.620 --> 57:39.460 And so you think that we think that our families think 57:39.460 --> 57:41.340 that we need to teach our kids 57:41.340 --> 57:43.100 that this was a solved mystery 57:43.100 --> 57:45.780 and that Fauci and EcoHealth Alliance are guilty of this. 57:45.780 --> 57:49.260 We need to return RNA to real again. 57:49.260 --> 57:53.500 We need to return the biology of RNA and clones real again. 57:54.820 --> 57:56.020 That's what we need to do. 57:57.060 --> 57:58.660 And now I'm gonna use this analogy 57:58.660 --> 58:00.020 and then I'm gonna wrap up 58:00.020 --> 58:02.940 but look very carefully at this guy, this Italian guy 58:02.940 --> 58:05.140 pretending to stop this subway. 58:06.540 --> 58:10.540 And so he gets on and he pulls it to a stop 58:10.540 --> 58:11.460 and then he's gonna go over here 58:11.460 --> 58:13.420 and he's gonna chalk up his hands 58:13.420 --> 58:15.860 and he's gonna pretend that he's doing this. 58:15.860 --> 58:17.420 Now what I want you to understand 58:17.420 --> 58:19.140 is that the more people 58:19.140 --> 58:21.100 and please do this thought experiment 58:21.100 --> 58:23.100 if you haven't already, the more people 58:23.100 --> 58:25.020 that he recruited to do this act, 58:25.020 --> 58:26.860 the more convincing it would be, 58:26.860 --> 58:28.900 especially if you were a young person 58:28.900 --> 58:31.820 or you didn't know anything about electric trains 58:31.820 --> 58:33.820 and the bigger the people were, 58:33.820 --> 58:35.740 the more animated they were, 58:35.740 --> 58:39.380 the more lights and sparks that they had 58:39.380 --> 58:43.020 in their uniform or more tools that they used 58:43.020 --> 58:44.700 and more noises that you heard 58:44.700 --> 58:46.660 as the train stopped or the train went away, 58:46.660 --> 58:48.140 the more convincing it would become 58:48.140 --> 58:51.740 that these people were stopping and starting the train. 58:51.740 --> 58:53.500 And I want you to think about the pandemic 58:53.500 --> 58:54.500 as something like this, 58:54.500 --> 58:57.420 that if enough people were to act like 58:57.420 --> 58:59.540 there's a pandemic to agree, 58:59.540 --> 59:02.780 to fight about what the pandemic is 59:02.780 --> 59:04.460 that you would be bamboozled by. 59:04.460 --> 59:07.220 You would think, wow, look at all these, it must be. 59:07.220 --> 59:09.540 And if you were one who really wanted to participate, 59:09.540 --> 59:11.380 you might've been being invited to hear. 59:11.460 --> 59:13.420 Here's the tug of war, pull on the rope. 59:14.740 --> 59:16.740 You can help us by pulling on the rope. 59:16.740 --> 59:18.420 And so you get your position on the rope. 59:18.420 --> 59:21.420 Gaijai, Gaijai, Jim's raised his hand with a question. 59:21.420 --> 59:22.260 Oh, it's okay, good. 59:22.260 --> 59:23.100 I'll stop right here. 59:23.100 --> 59:23.940 Go ahead, Jim. 59:23.940 --> 59:26.620 Well, actually, JJ, it was very interesting 59:26.620 --> 59:27.460 what you were just saying, 59:27.460 --> 59:29.620 then you're interrupted on a peace sentence. 59:29.620 --> 59:30.460 What was that? 59:33.220 --> 59:37.300 Well, I don't know, just that all of these people now, 59:37.300 --> 59:40.780 if you think about how this little cartoon goes, 59:40.820 --> 59:43.020 the more people that you have standing along the train, 59:43.020 --> 59:46.220 the more convincing this illusion is, 59:46.220 --> 59:49.300 and so that people are doing something that matters. 59:49.300 --> 59:51.700 And in the start of the pandemic, 59:51.700 --> 59:53.060 do you want to ask your question now, Jim? 59:53.060 --> 59:53.900 Go ahead. 59:56.820 --> 59:58.300 Actually, I didn't mean to interrupt. 59:58.300 --> 01:00:00.860 I just wanted you to address the, 01:00:00.860 --> 01:00:05.860 if you could, the different types of spike pro teams 01:00:06.540 --> 01:00:09.780 that are being alleged by a guy named, 01:00:09.780 --> 01:00:14.780 Jason McClellan, who supposedly invented the vaccine. 01:00:16.980 --> 01:00:18.540 I can comment on that a little bit. 01:00:18.540 --> 01:00:19.740 Are you aware of that guy? 01:00:19.740 --> 01:00:21.340 I'm not aware of that guy, but I think- 01:00:21.340 --> 01:00:22.300 And I don't want to interrupt you. 01:00:22.300 --> 01:00:23.540 I didn't mean to interrupt. 01:00:23.540 --> 01:00:25.380 I just wanted to get in line early. 01:00:25.380 --> 01:00:26.380 You're gonna have a lot of questions. 01:00:26.380 --> 01:00:27.220 This is great talk. 01:00:27.220 --> 01:00:28.580 Okay, great. 01:00:28.580 --> 01:00:30.740 So the point would be then to get back to this 01:00:30.740 --> 01:00:33.060 is that the more people you had standing on the train 01:00:33.060 --> 01:00:35.620 that agreed to talk about one thing, 01:00:35.620 --> 01:00:37.980 and that not question the pandemic, 01:00:37.980 --> 01:00:40.740 but just talk about one aspect of it, 01:00:40.740 --> 01:00:42.620 like a novel treatment, 01:00:42.620 --> 01:00:44.780 or whether we can build immunity or not, 01:00:44.780 --> 01:00:46.460 or whether T cells are involved, 01:00:46.460 --> 01:00:50.140 or it's all B cells, or is it a natural killer cells? 01:00:50.140 --> 01:00:51.620 Did the lockdowns work or not? 01:00:51.620 --> 01:00:55.820 I mean, are we seeing evidence of masking working in Asia 01:00:55.820 --> 01:00:56.660 or not? 01:00:56.660 --> 01:00:58.500 These debates were all real, 01:00:58.500 --> 01:01:00.580 and they were all televised, 01:01:00.580 --> 01:01:02.380 and they were all designed to make sure 01:01:02.380 --> 01:01:04.820 that you didn't question the primary thing 01:01:04.820 --> 01:01:05.660 that was happening, 01:01:05.740 --> 01:01:08.700 which is that these mass casualty events equal spread, 01:01:09.700 --> 01:01:12.220 that these PCR tests equal spread. 01:01:13.060 --> 01:01:15.420 And so all of this stuff was scripted. 01:01:15.420 --> 01:01:16.860 It was, it was gamed. 01:01:16.860 --> 01:01:19.540 It was tabletop exercised for many years. 01:01:19.540 --> 01:01:22.140 They knew that they were getting closer and closer 01:01:22.140 --> 01:01:23.180 to getting it right. 01:01:24.300 --> 01:01:26.420 And so I would argue that there are a couple things 01:01:26.420 --> 01:01:27.620 that we can know for sure. 01:01:27.620 --> 01:01:29.580 I, Droxylchloroquine and Ivermectin, 01:01:29.580 --> 01:01:32.740 are underutilized, pretty useful drugs. 01:01:33.620 --> 01:01:35.140 Chances are very good, 01:01:35.140 --> 01:01:37.660 that in a place like America using processed food 01:01:37.660 --> 01:01:41.260 and eating as bad and exercising as little as they do, 01:01:41.260 --> 01:01:43.700 that something like hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin 01:01:43.700 --> 01:01:47.980 when applied to somebody with some immune problem, 01:01:47.980 --> 01:01:51.100 some sickness, that it might have some general effect, 01:01:51.100 --> 01:01:52.620 even if it's not directly related 01:01:52.620 --> 01:01:54.380 to whatever that they were experiencing. 01:01:54.380 --> 01:01:57.180 The point being that these are underutilized pharmaceuticals 01:01:57.180 --> 01:01:59.340 that have no real danger if they're used properly, 01:01:59.340 --> 01:02:02.900 and even their overdosing is probably not that dangerous. 01:02:02.900 --> 01:02:06.420 So you have this issue here that if you accept this, 01:02:06.420 --> 01:02:08.140 again, this is the mystery, 01:02:08.140 --> 01:02:10.660 a novel virus needs novel cures. 01:02:10.660 --> 01:02:11.500 What did they choose? 01:02:11.500 --> 01:02:13.660 They choose novel cures that you could argue about 01:02:13.660 --> 01:02:14.620 without any problem. 01:02:14.620 --> 01:02:18.260 And then they also conveniently did really badly design 01:02:18.260 --> 01:02:20.580 studies that people could argue about. 01:02:20.580 --> 01:02:22.020 People like Brett could argue about. 01:02:22.020 --> 01:02:24.700 People like Pierre Corey could write a whole book about. 01:02:24.700 --> 01:02:29.700 I would argue that the double stranded DNA is another opportunity 01:02:32.140 --> 01:02:35.020 to make fake helpers join in the vigorous discussion 01:02:35.020 --> 01:02:36.660 that will never question the necessity 01:02:36.660 --> 01:02:39.100 of the transfection in the first place. 01:02:39.100 --> 01:02:41.340 Nor will they question the general application 01:02:41.340 --> 01:02:43.500 of transfection as a vaccination methodology 01:02:43.500 --> 01:02:48.460 because they will say, like Buckholtz did, 01:02:48.460 --> 01:02:50.300 that if this DNA is in the shot, 01:02:50.300 --> 01:02:52.300 I would still give it to my parents, 01:02:52.300 --> 01:02:54.180 but I wouldn't give it to my daughter. 01:02:54.180 --> 01:02:57.660 He actually said that in front of the South Carolina Senate, 01:02:57.660 --> 01:02:59.740 this guy who claims that he was whistleblowing 01:02:59.740 --> 01:03:01.860 on the DNA contamination and confirmed 01:03:01.860 --> 01:03:05.220 that Kevin McCurnan's measurements were right. 01:03:05.220 --> 01:03:08.260 This is a guy who was also very involved in the testing 01:03:08.260 --> 01:03:10.020 for coronavirus for the first two years. 01:03:10.020 --> 01:03:13.620 It's not for nothing that he was chosen to be the guy 01:03:13.620 --> 01:03:16.500 who again stepped to the side of the train 01:03:16.500 --> 01:03:17.940 and pretend to help stop it. 01:03:19.420 --> 01:03:22.740 They praised the methodology and they blamed the rush. 01:03:22.780 --> 01:03:25.460 And so the last thing that is is this diffuse proposal 01:03:25.460 --> 01:03:27.580 and it's contents and whether or not it's real 01:03:27.580 --> 01:03:31.060 and whether or not the contents mean that they were already done. 01:03:31.060 --> 01:03:33.300 Whether these released emails indicate 01:03:33.300 --> 01:03:36.100 that the experiments were obviously already done. 01:03:36.100 --> 01:03:38.140 And just like other aspects of the narrative, 01:03:38.140 --> 01:03:40.900 if you accept this relevance or even argue about it, 01:03:40.900 --> 01:03:43.300 you are not arguing about whether RNA can go 01:03:43.300 --> 01:03:45.100 around the planet and change colors. 01:03:48.380 --> 01:03:50.540 And they have done this with lots of things, 01:03:50.540 --> 01:03:52.780 including meetings all around the world 01:03:52.780 --> 01:03:56.100 where people are invited and considered celebrities 01:03:56.100 --> 01:03:59.460 and get to go on stage and present their results. 01:03:59.460 --> 01:04:01.420 And then somehow or another, their results 01:04:01.420 --> 01:04:03.540 or their objections never quite come 01:04:03.540 --> 01:04:05.340 out of the meeting like they should. 01:04:06.900 --> 01:04:09.340 And so in this scenario, I just want you to imagine 01:04:09.340 --> 01:04:11.500 where Jessica Rose is a good guy 01:04:11.500 --> 01:04:15.340 and Byron Brittle is a good guy 01:04:15.340 --> 01:04:17.060 and Denny Rancor is a good guy 01:04:17.060 --> 01:04:20.940 and Nick Hudson's a good guy and Ryan Cole's a good guy 01:04:20.940 --> 01:04:23.300 and they're all these people on the stage 01:04:23.300 --> 01:04:25.700 are pulling on this tug of war. 01:04:26.780 --> 01:04:28.620 But actually when it comes right down to it, 01:04:28.620 --> 01:04:32.500 maybe some of these people in yellow aren't actually pulling. 01:04:32.500 --> 01:04:34.580 Maybe they're not actually going to leave this meeting 01:04:34.580 --> 01:04:36.660 and tell everybody everything they heard, 01:04:36.660 --> 01:04:38.380 they're just going to tell everybody some things 01:04:38.380 --> 01:04:39.220 that they heard. 01:04:40.580 --> 01:04:43.780 And that's how they did this throughout the entire pandemic 01:04:43.780 --> 01:04:46.340 by calling me, by putting me in signal chats 01:04:46.340 --> 01:04:50.940 and having me give them tutorials on my immunology ideas 01:04:50.940 --> 01:04:53.580 and then not putting them on their podcast, 01:04:53.580 --> 01:04:56.060 not telling anybody who they were learning this from, 01:04:56.060 --> 01:04:58.060 correcting themselves, but not giving credit. 01:04:58.060 --> 01:05:00.340 They did this to everyone. 01:05:00.340 --> 01:05:02.020 They're doing it to Denny Rancor right now. 01:05:02.020 --> 01:05:03.500 They're doing it to Nick Hudson right now. 01:05:03.500 --> 01:05:07.500 Nick Hudson was at this discussion talk conference 01:05:07.500 --> 01:05:10.940 in Romania and Budapest and nobody ever said 01:05:10.940 --> 01:05:13.140 that his talk was great and I'm sure it was. 01:05:13.980 --> 01:05:17.180 And nobody's ever said that Denny Rancor was there 01:05:17.180 --> 01:05:19.020 and that he showed there was no evidence of spread. 01:05:19.020 --> 01:05:21.300 They just show that he shows that 17 million people 01:05:21.300 --> 01:05:24.220 were killed by the shot because that's okay to talk about. 01:05:24.220 --> 01:05:26.740 But the fact that mass casualty events 01:05:26.740 --> 01:05:30.700 don't have spread away from them is not okay. 01:05:30.700 --> 01:05:32.340 So they don't talk about it. 01:05:32.340 --> 01:05:34.020 But Denny presented that data. 01:05:35.740 --> 01:05:37.740 And that's how this is done, ladies and gentlemen, 01:05:37.740 --> 01:05:41.100 they are controlling a narrative about this potential 01:05:41.100 --> 01:05:45.220 and any other parts of this narrative are just discarded. 01:05:45.220 --> 01:05:47.980 And they keep bringing you back to this faith 01:05:47.980 --> 01:05:49.860 and keep making it about this phase 01:05:49.860 --> 01:05:53.140 without making it about there being no evidence of spread, 01:05:53.140 --> 01:05:55.740 not making it about the projected Medicare costs 01:05:55.740 --> 01:05:57.940 that were saved in America and around the world, 01:05:57.940 --> 01:06:00.260 especially in America and not making it 01:06:00.260 --> 01:06:01.740 about strict liability. 01:06:02.620 --> 01:06:05.020 In America, in our law, 01:06:05.020 --> 01:06:06.940 with the way that we speak about what happens 01:06:06.940 --> 01:06:09.380 with regular pharmaceuticals, it's strict liability. 01:06:09.460 --> 01:06:11.060 You're responsible for the damage 01:06:11.060 --> 01:06:13.060 that's done with your product. 01:06:13.060 --> 01:06:15.100 And we don't apply that to vaccines. 01:06:15.100 --> 01:06:18.900 We could just change that, but nobody talks about it. 01:06:18.900 --> 01:06:22.540 We have this separate system called CICP and VICP, 01:06:22.540 --> 01:06:24.620 which are two kangaroo courts 01:06:24.620 --> 01:06:27.740 where all of the claims against vaccine manufacturers 01:06:27.740 --> 01:06:31.060 are brought and the US government pays all of those damages. 01:06:31.060 --> 01:06:33.620 They even pay for lawyers that bring losing cases. 01:06:35.220 --> 01:06:38.540 And in our constitution, it says in the Seventh Amendment 01:06:38.540 --> 01:06:40.980 that we have the right to sue for damages over $20. 01:06:40.980 --> 01:06:42.700 So that seems to kind of contradict 01:06:42.700 --> 01:06:45.540 because we're not allowed to sue vaccine manufacturers. 01:06:45.540 --> 01:06:47.820 We have to use a kangaroo court. 01:06:47.820 --> 01:06:51.260 It seems that that's a pretty obvious violation 01:06:51.260 --> 01:06:52.260 of our Seventh Amendment. 01:06:52.260 --> 01:06:53.900 I know they have it. 01:06:53.900 --> 01:06:54.820 But what? 01:06:54.820 --> 01:06:57.260 You got to mute yourself. 01:06:57.260 --> 01:06:59.820 It seems like a regular, that's a violation 01:06:59.820 --> 01:07:02.700 of the Seventh Amendment, but nobody ever talks about that. 01:07:02.700 --> 01:07:05.780 None of the lawyers that have been in front of this 01:07:05.780 --> 01:07:07.420 in this group have ever said to you 01:07:07.420 --> 01:07:09.300 that one of the ways that we could win 01:07:09.300 --> 01:07:13.220 is that we could take a single vaccine injury to court 01:07:13.220 --> 01:07:15.140 in a state and have the state court say, 01:07:15.140 --> 01:07:19.220 no, we can't see your claim because of the prep act. 01:07:19.220 --> 01:07:22.420 And then you could take that as an appeal to a federal court 01:07:22.420 --> 01:07:24.900 and have the federal court strike the prep act 01:07:24.900 --> 01:07:26.060 as unconstitutional. 01:07:26.060 --> 01:07:30.180 We could be done in months, but nobody's doing that. 01:07:30.180 --> 01:07:32.940 And that should tell you all you need to know. 01:07:32.940 --> 01:07:36.060 With all of this biology that I have to teach, 01:07:36.060 --> 01:07:39.300 I got laid off. 01:07:39.300 --> 01:07:43.660 And not from a university this time. 01:07:43.660 --> 01:07:46.740 And so I think the most important thing to understand 01:07:46.740 --> 01:07:49.980 is this teamwork case scenario is real. 01:07:49.980 --> 01:07:52.660 Some of them were co-opted, some of them were forced, 01:07:52.660 --> 01:07:55.700 some of them were coerced, some of them did it gladly. 01:07:55.700 --> 01:07:57.900 Some of them were in place before the pandemic 01:07:57.900 --> 01:08:00.780 and found themselves between a rock and a hard place 01:08:00.780 --> 01:08:03.660 as part of this control mechanism in the media. 01:08:03.660 --> 01:08:05.540 And then, wow, do I really have to go along with this? 01:08:05.540 --> 01:08:07.940 Yes, you do. 01:08:07.940 --> 01:08:10.060 And we are victims of this. 01:08:10.060 --> 01:08:11.820 Our children are victims of this 01:08:11.820 --> 01:08:13.540 because they are being misled to believe 01:08:13.540 --> 01:08:16.180 that something real happened that could happen again 01:08:16.180 --> 01:08:17.180 and that, thank goodness, 01:08:17.180 --> 01:08:21.420 transfection worked pretty well for grandma. 01:08:21.420 --> 01:08:24.260 And it all started with this illusion here. 01:08:24.260 --> 01:08:27.460 Spike protein and antibodies and the antibodies 01:08:27.460 --> 01:08:30.340 from infection being very much weak 01:08:30.340 --> 01:08:32.340 compared to the vaccine antibodies. 01:08:32.340 --> 01:08:33.660 This is a picture that's taken 01:08:33.660 --> 01:08:38.260 from Francis Collins' own blog in July of 2020. 01:08:38.260 --> 01:08:40.580 This is the illusion in a nutshell. 01:08:40.580 --> 01:08:42.860 This is the lie in a nutshell. 01:08:42.860 --> 01:08:44.860 The variants go on into the future 01:08:44.860 --> 01:08:47.660 and your infection antibodies are useless. 01:08:49.300 --> 01:08:51.260 And depending on who you got in the car with, 01:08:51.260 --> 01:08:53.420 you would have heard all this. 01:08:53.420 --> 01:08:55.300 You would have heard arguments about all this. 01:08:55.300 --> 01:08:56.820 If you were lucky enough to get in the car 01:08:56.820 --> 01:08:58.380 with Thomas Binder, well, good. 01:08:59.340 --> 01:09:01.300 But then you would have had to survive four years 01:09:01.340 --> 01:09:03.900 with people telling you that Thomas Binder was crazy. 01:09:05.700 --> 01:09:08.340 And that's the new world order that they want to teach our kids. 01:09:08.340 --> 01:09:11.660 That's the new world order they want us to teach our kids. 01:09:11.660 --> 01:09:13.380 And our teachers are doing it. 01:09:13.380 --> 01:09:14.980 Our college professors are doing it. 01:09:14.980 --> 01:09:17.060 The college administrators are doing it. 01:09:17.060 --> 01:09:20.580 Soon this lie, like in the book 1984, 01:09:20.580 --> 01:09:23.220 is gonna be forgotten to become truth. 01:09:23.220 --> 01:09:25.860 And so it's up to us to teach our kids the way out of this. 01:09:25.860 --> 01:09:27.260 It's up to us to teach our kids 01:09:27.260 --> 01:09:29.020 that they have been fooled by this, 01:09:29.020 --> 01:09:30.740 that these changes are real. 01:09:31.860 --> 01:09:35.020 That they are being transitioned to submit 01:09:35.020 --> 01:09:37.100 to a digital ID and digital currency. 01:09:37.100 --> 01:09:38.500 The digital ID is not a big deal 01:09:38.500 --> 01:09:40.620 because if you have a phone, you already have it. 01:09:40.620 --> 01:09:42.460 You're being tracked and monitored in ways 01:09:42.460 --> 01:09:44.260 that a digital ID won't even do. 01:09:44.260 --> 01:09:46.220 It's the digital currency you need to be afraid of, 01:09:46.220 --> 01:09:47.940 of course, but I'm not an expert in this stuff. 01:09:47.940 --> 01:09:49.420 I just know that they're probably right. 01:09:49.420 --> 01:09:51.220 People like Michael Eden are probably right. 01:09:51.220 --> 01:09:54.540 This is the next stage. 01:09:54.540 --> 01:09:56.780 And they want you to believe that one of their excuses 01:09:56.780 --> 01:09:59.460 for this, one of the excuses for this level of control 01:09:59.460 --> 01:10:04.260 is the ongoing threat of gain of function viruses. 01:10:04.260 --> 01:10:06.020 This is most important to understand. 01:10:06.020 --> 01:10:08.460 We cannot let our children get on this train 01:10:08.460 --> 01:10:10.540 where we believe that we've defeated all diseases 01:10:10.540 --> 01:10:11.860 in the past by vaccination, 01:10:11.860 --> 01:10:15.100 that we believe that novel coronaviruses can jump. 01:10:15.100 --> 01:10:17.700 We want them to believe that asymptomatic is spread 01:10:17.700 --> 01:10:19.220 is what they need to think about. 01:10:19.220 --> 01:10:21.300 They're already telling people in America 01:10:21.300 --> 01:10:23.580 that RSV is asymptomatic 01:10:23.580 --> 01:10:25.340 and that they need to be concerned 01:10:25.340 --> 01:10:27.380 about all of these respiratory viruses 01:10:27.380 --> 01:10:28.540 as being asymptomatic. 01:10:28.540 --> 01:10:31.700 This is a train that our kids are currently on 01:10:31.700 --> 01:10:34.860 and we have very little time to get them off of it 01:10:34.860 --> 01:10:37.180 before they have their own kids and teach them 01:10:37.180 --> 01:10:39.420 that this is the reality. 01:10:39.420 --> 01:10:41.300 And so we need to get them off this train. 01:10:41.300 --> 01:10:43.380 We need to get them out of this new world order 01:10:43.380 --> 01:10:45.140 so that this isn't erased. 01:10:45.140 --> 01:10:48.140 The way to think about this in case you're not there 01:10:48.140 --> 01:10:51.100 is that they have told us that we have an ongoing RNA 01:10:51.100 --> 01:10:53.460 viral pandemic that started in 2020 01:10:53.460 --> 01:10:56.080 and has been going on for five years, 01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:59.880 five years of sustained RNA transmission 01:10:59.880 --> 01:11:02.720 that started in a point in a puddle, 01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:05.800 at an animal cage and has gone around the world 01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:07.560 since it leaked, that's ridiculous. 01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:10.720 But it is a faith that no one questions 01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:13.120 and it is a faith that your children can be trapped in 01:11:13.120 --> 01:11:15.920 if you don't start pointing it out to them 01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:18.760 that we are in the fifth year of this lie. 01:11:18.760 --> 01:11:20.440 I never thought we'd get this far. 01:11:22.240 --> 01:11:23.800 And you can see it as a background. 01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:26.160 They don't know what was in the background before. 01:11:26.160 --> 01:11:28.120 It could be just noise like on a radio 01:11:28.120 --> 01:11:29.280 that they've turned really loud 01:11:29.280 --> 01:11:32.720 and then told you there's organization inside of it. 01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:36.040 And this RNA signal being confounded as spread 01:11:36.040 --> 01:11:37.120 could have been seeded. 01:11:37.120 --> 01:11:42.120 They could have seeded the sequence using RNA or RNA clones 01:11:42.120 --> 01:11:44.480 or the DNA construct and put it in sewers. 01:11:45.320 --> 01:11:46.920 And the PCR would have been positive. 01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:48.560 Some people would have probably complained 01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:51.080 because the spike protein and N protein are immunogenic 01:11:51.080 --> 01:11:52.520 and would have annoyed their immune system. 01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:54.440 So a transfection by a clone 01:11:54.440 --> 01:11:57.560 would have done everything and more to create 01:11:57.560 --> 01:11:59.080 and see the illusion of the pandemic 01:11:59.080 --> 01:12:03.680 without endangering anybody, except for the people who bought in. 01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:06.960 So the way to see these people that are meddling with us 01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:09.560 is they don't ever talk about the childhood vaccine schedule 01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:12.120 as being criminal. 01:12:12.120 --> 01:12:15.320 I heard Pierre Corey on Jimmy Dorr last night 01:12:15.320 --> 01:12:18.000 saying it was criminal and I loved it. 01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:19.880 So good for Pierre Corey. 01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:22.440 Advocate for strict liability of all pharmaceutical products. 01:12:22.440 --> 01:12:23.800 That's the way you speak to lawyers. 01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:26.120 You just say, no, I don't want to talk about 01:12:26.120 --> 01:12:26.960 all this other stuff. 01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:28.720 Why don't we advocate for strict liability? 01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:30.800 Why don't we use the Seventh Amendment 01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:31.960 to strike this prep act? 01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:33.800 We need to start saying that regularly. 01:12:33.800 --> 01:12:35.800 Investigate the use of deadly protocols 01:12:35.800 --> 01:12:37.400 to create mass casualty events 01:12:37.400 --> 01:12:39.520 that were misconstrued as spread 01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:40.800 and investigate whether or not 01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:42.360 transfection could have been used 01:12:42.360 --> 01:12:44.200 to compound that problem or to create 01:12:44.200 --> 01:12:46.360 the molecular illusion of it. 01:12:46.360 --> 01:12:50.480 Declare or take your sovereignty back from them 01:12:51.120 --> 01:12:52.480 and the sovereignty of your children 01:12:52.480 --> 01:12:54.720 and withdraw from the who in the UN entirely. 01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:56.040 And if you want to see the medlers, 01:12:56.040 --> 01:12:57.360 they're not talking about this stuff. 01:12:57.360 --> 01:12:59.520 They rarely cite the deadly protocols. 01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:01.120 That's number three. 01:13:01.120 --> 01:13:02.960 They rarely use the word transfection 01:13:02.960 --> 01:13:05.160 although Brett Weinstein occasionally does. 01:13:05.160 --> 01:13:07.520 They never use the word clone to explain anything. 01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:09.080 And in fact, if they use the word clone, 01:13:09.080 --> 01:13:11.000 they use it to ridicule me. 01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:13.560 And finally, they attack people instead of ideas 01:13:13.560 --> 01:13:15.880 and they're unable to summarize across the entire show. 01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:17.960 And that's really evident with somebody like, 01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:20.400 with somebody like Kevin McCurnan, 01:13:20.400 --> 01:13:22.640 who has defended transfection in the past 01:13:22.640 --> 01:13:25.240 by saying, I hope we don't throw the baby out 01:13:25.240 --> 01:13:27.920 with the bathwater because of this contamination. 01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:32.040 And has also very distinctly not spoken up 01:13:32.040 --> 01:13:33.800 about any of the protocols ever, 01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:36.120 which of course were used to justify 01:13:36.120 --> 01:13:37.840 the rollout of this product. 01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:40.040 And if you really wanted to bring everybody to attention 01:13:40.040 --> 01:13:42.600 and to understand how badly with bamboozled, 01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:44.720 you would tell the whole story, at least in a nutshell, 01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:46.520 and not just say it's double-stranded DNA 01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:47.840 and then my hair's on fire. 01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:51.280 And the reason why they're doing this 01:13:51.280 --> 01:13:53.840 is because the rich people in private meetings 01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:55.080 have been saying for a long time, 01:13:55.080 --> 01:13:57.840 we gotta start collecting this data from these people 01:13:57.840 --> 01:13:59.480 before they're gone. 01:13:59.480 --> 01:14:00.840 And since we're gonna get rid of them, 01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:02.400 we should start collecting that data. 01:14:02.400 --> 01:14:04.480 They want your kids and they want your kids kids. 01:14:04.480 --> 01:14:06.120 So this is a multi-generational thing. 01:14:06.120 --> 01:14:07.720 You don't have to think about this 01:14:07.720 --> 01:14:09.040 gonna be over in a couple of years. 01:14:09.040 --> 01:14:12.040 This is not gonna stop because they've convinced themselves 01:14:12.040 --> 01:14:14.840 that if they collect enough data and the AI evolves, 01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:16.600 that we're eventually gonna solve all this 01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:18.600 and we're gonna become the transhuman futurists 01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:20.400 that everybody wants us to be. 01:14:20.400 --> 01:14:22.080 So please stop transfection and human 01:14:22.080 --> 01:14:23.840 because they are trying to eliminate the control group 01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:25.000 by any means necessary. 01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:26.200 That's the end. 01:14:26.200 --> 01:14:28.000 I'm open for questions, thank you. 01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:31.440 Well done, JJ, great job. 01:14:31.440 --> 01:14:33.240 Sorry, that was so long. 01:14:33.240 --> 01:14:34.800 I didn't realize that was so long. 01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:37.640 It was wonderful. 01:14:37.640 --> 01:14:41.120 So we'll go back to our normal process. 01:14:41.120 --> 01:14:42.840 Steven, next 15 minutes, 01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:45.240 and then Jim, you'll be first after Steven. 01:14:45.240 --> 01:14:47.040 So Steven... 01:14:47.040 --> 01:14:48.840 They had a cold previously 01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:51.600 and for a couple of months, if they had flu 01:14:51.600 --> 01:14:53.720 and they also lost their sense of smell, 01:14:53.720 --> 01:14:55.440 it's just amazing. 01:14:55.440 --> 01:14:58.360 So it seems to me that people operating cults 01:14:58.360 --> 01:15:01.920 and they just operate on a belief system 01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:03.520 and that's how we solve, 01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:05.680 they don't, they're not capable of analysis 01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:09.400 but actually even the people who are capable of analysis, 01:15:09.400 --> 01:15:10.920 they overthink everything 01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:13.480 and think their tiny little area of science 01:15:13.480 --> 01:15:15.200 is gonna solve the world's problems. 01:15:15.200 --> 01:15:18.000 No, without them putting it into context, 01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:19.080 what they're saying, 01:15:19.080 --> 01:15:21.600 that it has no significance whatsoever. 01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:24.360 It's completely lost and they might as well not bother. 01:15:24.360 --> 01:15:27.080 So I just wondered what your comments are about that. 01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:32.480 I mean, yeah, I agree. 01:15:32.480 --> 01:15:34.480 Right now we're just, 01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:39.400 I don't wanna get too explanatory about it 01:15:40.040 --> 01:15:41.280 and pigeonhole myself 01:15:41.280 --> 01:15:44.840 and it just, I wanna be sure that this possibility 01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:47.080 of there being real biology 01:15:47.080 --> 01:15:48.800 that could have been used to mislead us 01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:51.240 and even misleading virologists 01:15:51.240 --> 01:15:53.440 and misleading molecular biologists 01:15:53.440 --> 01:15:56.320 into believing that this signal is higher fidelity. 01:15:56.320 --> 01:16:00.080 So it is cultish, but it's cultish with real, 01:16:01.480 --> 01:16:05.760 you know, it's like if you went to a ceremony at some cult 01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:10.680 and across the water was a giant, a giant idol 01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:11.680 and in front of that idol, 01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:13.760 a bunch of people looked like they were, 01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:16.440 they were, I don't know, sacrificing goats. 01:16:16.440 --> 01:16:17.720 From the other side of the river, 01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:19.040 you don't know what they're doing 01:16:19.040 --> 01:16:22.120 and a lot of us are on the other side of the river 01:16:22.120 --> 01:16:23.360 with regard to the pandemic. 01:16:23.360 --> 01:16:26.000 We don't really know what's going on behind the scenes. 01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.360 We don't know what goes on behind the idol. 01:16:28.360 --> 01:16:30.080 We don't know where those lights are coming from 01:16:30.080 --> 01:16:31.720 or whether those people and those costumes 01:16:31.720 --> 01:16:33.000 are who they say they are. 01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:35.360 And so we're really lost here. 01:16:35.360 --> 01:16:38.360 I think it's very important to realize 01:16:38.360 --> 01:16:40.200 that so many of us have been duped 01:16:40.200 --> 01:16:43.240 into accepting people as not, 01:16:43.240 --> 01:16:44.520 I don't like the word savior, 01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:47.840 but as people who are trying to come to the rescue 01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:52.360 on white horses when this script almost certainly 01:16:52.360 --> 01:16:54.760 prepared that for us, it had to have. 01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:58.160 And only in retrospect as it becomes so visible. 01:16:58.160 --> 01:17:01.080 So I think you're right in characterizing it that way, 01:17:01.080 --> 01:17:03.560 but it is extremely diabolical 01:17:03.560 --> 01:17:05.840 because not everybody who's participating 01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:07.600 knows that they have been bamboozled. 01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:11.320 I did not know how badly I was being fooled 01:17:11.320 --> 01:17:14.680 and how many people were active in fooling me 01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:16.400 for those first two and a half years. 01:17:16.400 --> 01:17:18.040 It's only obvious now. 01:17:20.320 --> 01:17:22.280 It's strange because it's strange 01:17:22.280 --> 01:17:24.400 that even you could get into it 01:17:24.400 --> 01:17:26.400 because it was obvious to me from the beginning 01:17:26.400 --> 01:17:27.920 that everything was wrong. 01:17:27.920 --> 01:17:30.360 Nay, nay, that's different, maybe you have to, 01:17:30.360 --> 01:17:31.960 you have to, you have to see 01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:33.400 that that's not what I was thinking. 01:17:33.400 --> 01:17:34.960 Those aren't the questions I was asking. 01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:37.600 I was not asking, is the pandemic real? 01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:41.920 I was asking, is the virus lab leak or natural? 01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:42.760 And if you're not. 01:17:42.760 --> 01:17:46.120 Yeah, but this is the point I'm trying to make 01:17:46.120 --> 01:17:49.600 with this talk is that if you were asking the question 01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:52.120 of whether the pandemic is real or fake, 01:17:52.120 --> 01:17:55.160 you were stuck in a certain path that was very different 01:17:55.160 --> 01:17:57.760 than being stuck in the, is the pandemic a natural 01:17:57.760 --> 01:17:58.760 or a lab leak. 01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:01.800 And if you picked the right people, 01:18:01.840 --> 01:18:03.400 you were gonna be stuck over here 01:18:03.400 --> 01:18:06.040 and you were never, ever, ever going to be allowed 01:18:06.040 --> 01:18:07.880 to ask this question. 01:18:07.880 --> 01:18:10.880 Do you understand that if you're in a private chat 01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:14.760 with a bunch of people that think this is a low-level lab leak, 01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:18.040 you can't ever get those people to discuss the possibility 01:18:18.040 --> 01:18:20.440 that they might be completely wrong? 01:18:20.440 --> 01:18:23.080 And the questions that they ask are going to fuel 01:18:23.080 --> 01:18:25.880 this very limited spectrum of debate 01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:27.640 that's very vigorous within it. 01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:30.960 And if it's somebody like Joe Rogan talking 01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:34.240 to Mike Osterholm, it's these are things 01:18:34.240 --> 01:18:35.800 that people all have to sort out. 01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:39.640 And as an academic biologist, I went with academia. 01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:41.600 I got stuck with academia. 01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:45.280 And so I was trying to sort out what's wrong with academia 01:18:45.280 --> 01:18:49.040 and to get all the way to the stage where I can now 01:18:49.040 --> 01:18:53.040 relatively succinctly explain how screwed up academia is. 01:18:53.040 --> 01:18:54.160 It took me a long time. 01:18:54.160 --> 01:18:58.640 I needed to get far enough away from it so I could see it. 01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:02.760 And so every person, every doctor, every health care worker, 01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:05.840 every carpenter that bought into this mystery 01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:08.880 needs to work their own way out. 01:19:08.880 --> 01:19:11.360 And there were own way away from this 01:19:11.360 --> 01:19:15.680 because they've been so entranced and enchanted 01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:16.880 to solve this mystery. 01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:20.480 And then they also, don't forget, almost all of us 01:19:20.480 --> 01:19:22.600 came to the conclusion that we had solved it, 01:19:22.600 --> 01:19:26.760 that I was winning, that I had finally figured it out. 01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:28.760 And that's a very dangerous place to be, 01:19:28.760 --> 01:19:33.120 because then you can really be really hard to be convinced 01:19:33.120 --> 01:19:33.920 that you've been fooled. 01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:34.760 And that's where I was. 01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:36.000 And I brought a lot of people there. 01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:39.720 And a lot of people in my family or family and friends in circle 01:19:39.720 --> 01:19:43.520 took the shot because I wasn't arguing the right biology. 01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:45.200 I was telling them it was a lab leak. 01:19:45.200 --> 01:19:48.640 So hey, if I say it's a lab leak, but you don't have to worry about it, 01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:50.360 how are you going to take my word for that? 01:19:50.360 --> 01:19:51.480 And that's what I was saying. 01:19:51.480 --> 01:19:53.280 It's a lab leak, but you don't have to worry about it 01:19:53.280 --> 01:19:55.080 because your immune system is strong. 01:19:55.080 --> 01:19:56.880 And all you have to do is doubt your health 01:19:56.880 --> 01:20:00.200 or doubt your immune system or say, well, I'm not as good a shape as Jay, 01:20:00.200 --> 01:20:02.440 I better take the transfection. 01:20:02.440 --> 01:20:06.080 So I didn't save anyone when I could have saved someone 01:20:06.080 --> 01:20:08.720 because I was fooled by the same narrative. 01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:11.200 And that's what I think is so powerful about my story, 01:20:11.200 --> 01:20:13.240 because I can start crying about it. 01:20:13.240 --> 01:20:17.280 And one of my friends had an aneurysm on December, 01:20:17.280 --> 01:20:18.960 I don't remember what the date is anymore, 01:20:18.960 --> 01:20:22.560 but he had an aneurysm, just a freak. 01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:23.400 He's just dead. 01:20:23.400 --> 01:20:25.960 He's got two daughters and a beautiful wife. 01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:29.960 And he's gone forever because he and his family took the shots 01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:31.600 because I didn't have it. 01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:34.320 I didn't have the story back then. 01:20:34.320 --> 01:20:38.800 And it's really important that people see that it's OK. 01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:40.240 We all didn't have the story. 01:20:40.240 --> 01:20:42.880 And if we can all come to this realization, 01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:44.880 we can all collectively lift each other out. 01:20:44.880 --> 01:20:50.560 There's it really is an important moment, I think. 01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:52.400 Yeah. 01:20:52.400 --> 01:20:58.600 So one, just very quickly, I get traction when I say 01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:01.400 that I'm a medical doctor to people I don't even know. 01:21:01.400 --> 01:21:03.280 I just talk to them. 01:21:03.280 --> 01:21:06.560 I know how to talk to people, as Jerry Brady says. 01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:12.240 And when I say that I'm a doctor, not for any glory or anything, 01:21:12.240 --> 01:21:13.760 obviously. 01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:17.200 And then I say, no pandemic, I get their interest. 01:21:17.200 --> 01:21:21.520 And then I say, by the way, there's no novel disease either. 01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:23.320 There's no COVID-19. 01:21:23.320 --> 01:21:26.000 And they say, oh, well, I had COVID. 01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:28.000 I said, don't think he did. 01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:32.000 But by that time, we usually got some kind of conversation going. 01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:34.560 And they kind of believe me. 01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:37.240 But I noticed that they are a bit disturbed. 01:21:37.240 --> 01:21:41.600 They're very confident about saying they've had COVID prior 01:21:41.600 --> 01:21:44.640 to me saying no pandemic, no novel disease. 01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:48.000 And so it is a way, I think, that we can influence people. 01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:52.360 But maybe you need to be a brilliant biologist, 01:21:52.360 --> 01:21:55.000 like you, or a doctor. 01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:57.160 Because they hesitate to kind of take me on. 01:21:57.160 --> 01:21:59.120 Because it may probably look as though I mean business, 01:21:59.120 --> 01:22:00.400 because I do. 01:22:00.400 --> 01:22:06.000 But anyway, I wanted to ask you, the gain of function thing. 01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:11.280 I think maybe the message is being missed by some people. 01:22:11.280 --> 01:22:15.040 So in my opinion, the gain of function research, 01:22:15.040 --> 01:22:18.760 which they're plugging and saying, oh, how illegal it is. 01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:20.400 And the people are saying, oh, it's terrible. 01:22:20.400 --> 01:22:22.760 They're doing gain of function research. 01:22:22.760 --> 01:22:26.480 United States is funding this gain of function research. 01:22:26.480 --> 01:22:30.440 But they don't understand even the people on our side 01:22:30.440 --> 01:22:31.760 who should know better. 01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:34.040 They don't understand the talk about the gain 01:22:34.040 --> 01:22:36.480 of function research and saying how bad it is 01:22:36.480 --> 01:22:38.280 and how it shouldn't be going on. 01:22:38.280 --> 01:22:42.760 And I think David Martin talks about it. 01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:44.720 They don't understand that they're playing into the narrative. 01:22:44.720 --> 01:22:47.280 And I think that's what you're saying 01:22:47.280 --> 01:22:49.480 through much of the talk. 01:22:49.480 --> 01:22:53.040 And I don't know how we kind of phrase it 01:22:53.040 --> 01:22:55.800 so that people really understand it. 01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:58.160 Yeah, I mean, I think that that's the reason why I'm trying 01:22:58.160 --> 01:22:59.760 to teach the clones in different ways. 01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:03.320 Because the gain of function, anything that they do, 01:23:03.320 --> 01:23:07.240 anytime they insert something or they make a synthetic virus, 01:23:07.240 --> 01:23:08.560 they're making clones. 01:23:08.560 --> 01:23:10.760 So it's only a question of how much that they make. 01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:12.840 They make a little bit, or they make a lot. 01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:16.240 Because the RNA is still not suddenly endowed 01:23:16.240 --> 01:23:18.240 with extra copying capabilities 01:23:18.240 --> 01:23:20.760 because you put an extra base or two in there. 01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:22.640 That doesn't change the properties 01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:26.360 of this multipoly protein replication complex 01:23:26.360 --> 01:23:28.360 that's hardly even understood. 01:23:28.360 --> 01:23:31.280 And so you can put whatever RNA you want 01:23:31.280 --> 01:23:33.560 and you're limited by copying it 01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:35.480 with an RNA dependent RNA polymerase. 01:23:35.480 --> 01:23:38.640 So they keep making all these statements 01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:39.520 about what's going on. 01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:41.880 But there's nothing that you can do to the spike protein 01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:44.560 to change how well the RNA that codes for it is copied. 01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:46.280 That's like ridiculous. 01:23:46.280 --> 01:23:50.440 And that's the argument that we needed to learn 01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:54.080 the weaknesses of it from the very beginning 01:23:54.080 --> 01:23:56.040 because all of us just bought into the cartoon 01:23:56.040 --> 01:23:57.960 that there are viruses and then they replicate 01:23:57.960 --> 01:24:00.840 and then we cough them out and then other people get sick. 01:24:00.840 --> 01:24:03.840 And it wasn't until I started really getting challenge 01:24:03.840 --> 01:24:07.680 on that and really listening to the objections 01:24:07.680 --> 01:24:10.080 of some of these people like Mark Bailey, 01:24:10.080 --> 01:24:11.280 where I started to see 01:24:11.280 --> 01:24:13.480 that there was something really incongruent. 01:24:13.480 --> 01:24:17.200 And I still feel like we need to revisit 01:24:17.200 --> 01:24:20.480 a lot of these narratives because best case scenario 01:24:20.480 --> 01:24:23.920 for virology and biology is that the fidelity 01:24:23.920 --> 01:24:26.320 of the signal has been grossly exaggerated 01:24:26.320 --> 01:24:29.440 but there are signals that we could characterize 01:24:29.440 --> 01:24:31.480 as a measles virus or a flu virus 01:24:31.480 --> 01:24:33.080 or maybe even coronaviruses. 01:24:33.080 --> 01:24:36.080 But the worst case scenario for virology 01:24:36.120 --> 01:24:40.160 is that all of these are simply amplified noise 01:24:40.160 --> 01:24:44.080 that's been mischaracterized as transmitting pathogens 01:24:44.080 --> 01:24:48.440 which in that case we have been probably actively misled 01:24:48.440 --> 01:24:53.360 by people controlling this sort of thought space 01:24:53.360 --> 01:24:56.320 which is a much more diabolical situation 01:24:56.320 --> 01:24:59.200 and it goes back to AIDS and the people 01:24:59.200 --> 01:25:01.840 who controlled the biology story of AIDS 01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:05.680 and goes back to the whole vaccine schedule in America 01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:08.320 going from live attenuated vaccines 01:25:08.320 --> 01:25:12.160 to recombinant vaccines that were given intramuscularly. 01:25:12.160 --> 01:25:13.760 So that's the problem with this too 01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:14.920 is that a lot of these people, 01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:15.960 that's why I say that at the end 01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:17.480 how can you see the medlers, 01:25:17.480 --> 01:25:20.600 it's very hard to imagine that someone on this journey 01:25:20.600 --> 01:25:25.200 of discovery in the pandemic would stop at, 01:25:25.200 --> 01:25:28.280 wow, I guess they made a mistake with the transfection 01:25:28.280 --> 01:25:31.080 and so we should fix that before we move forward. 01:25:31.080 --> 01:25:35.240 Like it's kind of a very selective attention 01:25:35.240 --> 01:25:39.360 on the lies and a very big amount of lies 01:25:39.360 --> 01:25:42.560 are ignored in that interpretation of reality. 01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:44.240 And so it's hard for me to believe 01:25:44.240 --> 01:25:47.160 that very many of the people that are on our team 01:25:47.160 --> 01:25:50.200 can still basically say that they think vaccinations 01:25:50.200 --> 01:25:54.680 in general are very good like Brett Weinstein still says. 01:25:54.680 --> 01:25:57.680 And this is a very big red flag for me 01:25:57.680 --> 01:26:00.240 that almost everybody that lost their career 01:26:00.240 --> 01:26:04.240 and got censored and had to shake a can on the internet 01:26:04.240 --> 01:26:06.080 should be at the stage where they realize 01:26:06.080 --> 01:26:09.320 that the CDC is the largest producer of vaccines in America 01:26:09.320 --> 01:26:12.200 and that we have a schedule with more shots 01:26:12.200 --> 01:26:15.640 that are earlier than any other Western civilization country 01:26:15.640 --> 01:26:18.880 in the world and that alone, that difference alone 01:26:19.960 --> 01:26:21.560 should be enough to call on criminal. 01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:24.160 It's broad, I do this, absolute broad. 01:26:24.160 --> 01:26:28.080 Yeah, so I just wanted to ask you this key question, JJ. 01:26:28.080 --> 01:26:29.040 I don't know whether it's key, 01:26:29.040 --> 01:26:30.840 but it just seems to be to me. 01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:33.440 I think that biology, genomics, 01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:35.520 I'm not sure about genomics and epidemiology, 01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:37.520 but yes, I think so. 01:26:37.520 --> 01:26:41.600 Biology, certainly virology, genomics, epidemiology, 01:26:41.600 --> 01:26:45.080 evidence-based medicine were constricts 01:26:45.080 --> 01:26:48.920 to achieve exactly what they launched in 2020. 01:26:48.920 --> 01:26:51.680 And that epidemiology, sorry, immunology, 01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:57.360 that as the virology increased in importance 01:26:57.360 --> 01:27:01.880 in inverted commas, the immunology sank into, 01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:03.920 wasn't seen, you know? 01:27:03.920 --> 01:27:08.760 So the very subject which taught us all 01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:11.120 how brilliant the human immune system is 01:27:11.120 --> 01:27:14.040 and presumably the immune system of animals too, 01:27:17.960 --> 01:27:22.640 that went, lost its influence in the 80s. 01:27:22.640 --> 01:27:24.720 When I was at medical school, immunologists 01:27:24.720 --> 01:27:27.240 were kings of medicine, 01:27:27.240 --> 01:27:28.960 but now it seems that the virologists 01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:30.280 wanted to be kings of medicine. 01:27:30.320 --> 01:27:33.000 And I think that what they've been doing is fraudulent 01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:34.960 and it was a construct. 01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:37.600 I don't know it was fraudulent, but I think it was. 01:27:37.600 --> 01:27:39.040 I feel that it was. 01:27:39.040 --> 01:27:41.240 And it was a construct which was necessary 01:27:41.240 --> 01:27:44.720 for these bastards to do what they did in 2020. 01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:47.240 I think it's very possible that a lot of this mythology 01:27:47.240 --> 01:27:48.080 will break down. 01:27:48.080 --> 01:27:49.080 I do, I do. 01:27:50.520 --> 01:27:51.360 Yeah. 01:27:51.360 --> 01:27:53.920 I don't think we're under any obligation 01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:56.440 to be sophisticated enough to delineate 01:27:56.440 --> 01:27:58.680 what parts are fake and what parts are not. 01:27:58.680 --> 01:28:02.520 We just need to be focused on the current regime of lies 01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:04.200 and then work backwards from there. 01:28:04.200 --> 01:28:05.840 Yeah, but we have to be able to attack 01:28:05.840 --> 01:28:08.680 the world of virology if that's what we need to do 01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:09.920 in many different ways. 01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:12.320 And so I'm just thinking a little bit further 01:28:12.320 --> 01:28:14.240 than the end of my nose or trying to, 01:28:14.240 --> 01:28:17.680 because a doctor should be thinking about the possibilities 01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:21.560 and warning his patients or the world if necessary 01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:22.640 about dangers. 01:28:22.640 --> 01:28:27.160 And so, yeah, so there was something else 01:28:27.160 --> 01:28:29.360 that has gone out of my head. 01:28:29.360 --> 01:28:30.360 Yeah, I liked your, 01:28:33.200 --> 01:28:34.800 I liked your examples. 01:28:34.800 --> 01:28:36.640 Your analogies were excellent, I thought. 01:28:36.640 --> 01:28:41.200 So you talked about how our children are on the train 01:28:41.200 --> 01:28:44.160 and we have little time to get them off the train. 01:28:44.160 --> 01:28:45.960 You didn't use those exact words, 01:28:45.960 --> 01:28:47.920 but I understand what you're saying. 01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:50.280 We, and what I think the train was, 01:28:50.280 --> 01:28:54.680 was endless, deadly viral pandemics in the future. 01:28:54.680 --> 01:28:59.680 And not only was there no pandemic in 2020, in my opinion, 01:28:59.920 --> 01:29:04.720 but actually the possibility that there can be pandemics 01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:08.240 in the future, I think is another construct. 01:29:08.240 --> 01:29:12.440 They put this about so that they can instill fear 01:29:12.440 --> 01:29:15.760 into the population and thereby achieve their aims. 01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:18.160 It's just necessary to have the fear 01:29:18.160 --> 01:29:20.800 and put out the propaganda. 01:29:20.800 --> 01:29:25.040 So the whole thing that people are fearing disease X 01:29:25.040 --> 01:29:29.160 and people who shouldn't be distracted are distracted. 01:29:30.320 --> 01:29:31.480 I won't mention names, 01:29:31.480 --> 01:29:34.760 but you must have seen the disease X and Marburg. 01:29:34.760 --> 01:29:35.920 It's just nonsense. 01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:39.760 And we don't need to fear all this nonsense, you know, 01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:42.040 and thinking about the next pandemic. 01:29:42.040 --> 01:29:45.080 So the British governments, I need to tell you this, JJ. 01:29:45.080 --> 01:29:49.040 They, so they had an inquiry in the, 01:29:49.040 --> 01:29:51.120 are having an inquiry, COVID inquiry. 01:29:51.120 --> 01:29:54.360 I try not to watch it because it's so bad. 01:29:54.360 --> 01:29:58.240 And what they'd intent on doing is saying to the, 01:29:58.240 --> 01:30:00.400 the agenda is to say to the British people, 01:30:00.400 --> 01:30:03.880 well, actually we should have locked down a bit earlier, you know, 01:30:03.880 --> 01:30:06.040 and then it would have been a lot better. 01:30:06.040 --> 01:30:09.920 And so along comes Boris Johnson, 01:30:09.920 --> 01:30:11.600 the former prime minister of the UK, 01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:13.320 who has many, many faults. 01:30:14.440 --> 01:30:17.600 He actually determined the remit of the person 01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:18.840 who's doing the inquiry, 01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:21.360 but of course he's out of power now. 01:30:21.360 --> 01:30:24.120 So he comes along, I think he blew the whistle. 01:30:24.120 --> 01:30:28.160 He said, so she was commiserating after two days of evidence 01:30:28.160 --> 01:30:29.720 when Boris broke down, you know, 01:30:29.720 --> 01:30:32.360 and the story in the newspaper that Boris broke down 01:30:32.360 --> 01:30:33.960 because everything was so sad, 01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:36.000 we should have locked down earlier. 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:37.000 But guess what? 01:30:37.000 --> 01:30:40.320 Boris comes out at the end when she's commiserating with him. 01:30:40.320 --> 01:30:43.360 And he says, I don't think I'll see you in the, 01:30:43.360 --> 01:30:44.360 in the near future. 01:30:44.360 --> 01:30:45.360 And I was thinking to herself, 01:30:45.360 --> 01:30:46.440 well, what world is that? 01:30:46.440 --> 01:30:47.840 You know, he's describing, 01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:48.920 I think he'd been meeting, 01:30:48.920 --> 01:30:51.200 they'd been meeting at every party in the, 01:30:51.200 --> 01:30:52.600 in the near future. 01:30:52.600 --> 01:30:54.640 So he said, I don't think it was, 01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:58.680 he said, I think, but you can't look into it. 01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:02.680 I think we need to determine where this came from. 01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:06.000 Well, dead right, but nobody noticed JJ. 01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:07.160 Nobody noticed. 01:31:07.160 --> 01:31:10.480 I thought, wow, the former prime minister of the UK, 01:31:11.400 --> 01:31:14.160 who was beaten into following the narrative, 01:31:14.160 --> 01:31:16.120 in my opinion, likely, 01:31:16.120 --> 01:31:18.840 he was blowing the whistle at the end of his evidence 01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:20.080 of the COVID inquiry. 01:31:20.080 --> 01:31:22.640 And nobody noticed, except me. 01:31:23.640 --> 01:31:26.360 And well, if he says, if we says, 01:31:26.360 --> 01:31:27.600 I would argue that if he says, 01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:29.520 we need to determine where the virus comes from, 01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:30.360 that he's telling you, 01:31:30.360 --> 01:31:31.960 you need to solve the mystery of the Scooby. 01:31:31.960 --> 01:31:33.320 No, he just said it. 01:31:33.320 --> 01:31:34.160 He said it. 01:31:34.160 --> 01:31:35.000 Yeah, it's okay. 01:31:36.320 --> 01:31:37.680 Goodness knows what he meant. 01:31:37.680 --> 01:31:40.200 I'd love to contact him and find out what he meant, 01:31:40.200 --> 01:31:43.080 but probably he's got an army of people stopping people 01:31:43.080 --> 01:31:44.240 getting to him. 01:31:46.680 --> 01:31:50.200 So you remember when he went into the hospital 01:31:50.200 --> 01:31:52.160 and he was terrified allegedly for his life, 01:31:52.160 --> 01:31:53.320 he ended up in ICU. 01:31:53.320 --> 01:31:54.800 I don't think he was in hospital. 01:31:54.800 --> 01:31:56.800 Or he was in the emergency. 01:31:56.800 --> 01:31:59.200 He was predicted to go into the hospital 01:31:59.200 --> 01:32:03.240 in the Olympic Games ceremony, right? 01:32:03.240 --> 01:32:05.000 I mean, we saw, 01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:07.200 is it the 2012 games that were in London, 01:32:07.200 --> 01:32:09.200 where they had the virus from above 01:32:09.200 --> 01:32:11.520 and they had a giant death walking around 01:32:11.520 --> 01:32:12.760 with all the attribute, 01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:14.960 or it was a tribute to the NHS 01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:16.800 and they had all these beds being pushed around 01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:20.320 and one of the people that was in the sick beds was him. 01:32:20.320 --> 01:32:24.440 So like they told us that it's beyond absurd. 01:32:24.440 --> 01:32:25.280 He wasn't in the bed. 01:32:25.280 --> 01:32:26.920 Yeah. 01:32:26.920 --> 01:32:27.800 I didn't know that. 01:32:27.800 --> 01:32:28.720 You've never seen that? 01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:30.240 There was a guy with yellow hair 01:32:30.240 --> 01:32:32.000 and he was like in the bed whining 01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:33.360 and they made him look absurd. 01:32:33.360 --> 01:32:34.520 It was like a caricature of him. 01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:35.520 Wow. Yeah. 01:32:37.440 --> 01:32:38.280 Oh yeah. 01:32:38.280 --> 01:32:39.120 There's many minutes there. 01:32:39.120 --> 01:32:41.720 It's a possibility that I don't know for certain, 01:32:41.720 --> 01:32:42.760 but it's a real possibility 01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:45.520 to think about the Boris Johnson. 01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:47.680 Didn't believe what was going on in 2020 01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:49.200 and he had to be persuaded. 01:32:49.200 --> 01:32:51.120 So it could be. 01:32:51.120 --> 01:32:52.120 Yeah. It could be. 01:32:52.120 --> 01:32:53.000 OK. 01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:54.320 All right. 01:32:54.320 --> 01:32:55.480 Thank you, Stephen. 01:32:55.480 --> 01:32:57.560 OK, now Jim had his hand up first 01:32:57.560 --> 01:32:58.840 and what happens with Zoom 01:32:58.840 --> 01:33:00.040 is if someone says anything 01:33:00.040 --> 01:33:01.840 that takes your hand down automatically. 01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:04.640 So Wolfgang, I saw you came in there, 01:33:04.640 --> 01:33:06.280 but Jim first and Jerry. 01:33:08.360 --> 01:33:09.680 Yeah, thank you very much. 01:33:09.760 --> 01:33:11.720 Great presentation. 01:33:11.720 --> 01:33:17.760 And I'd like Stephen for us to read. 01:33:17.760 --> 01:33:22.120 And I have a little bit of a different view on things. 01:33:22.120 --> 01:33:24.960 I'm concerned about not about the virus or whatever, 01:33:24.960 --> 01:33:27.920 but the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein 01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:29.720 as a bioterror weapon, 01:33:29.720 --> 01:33:32.560 engineered pure and cleavage site 01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:38.000 from a bacteria put on that spike protein. 01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:41.960 And we are seemingly living the plot 01:33:41.960 --> 01:33:46.120 of a Tom Clancy book called Rainbow Six, 01:33:46.120 --> 01:33:48.560 where a alleged virus is released 01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:49.560 into the Olympic Games 01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:51.320 to spread around the world and the vaccine. 01:33:51.320 --> 01:33:53.800 It's worse than the virus that he populated the Earth 01:33:53.800 --> 01:33:55.440 by radical environmentalists 01:33:55.440 --> 01:33:58.440 in the name of climate change. 01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:03.160 My question has to deal with 01:34:04.160 --> 01:34:08.920 how we prove or first getting immunity 01:34:08.920 --> 01:34:14.600 and if you can address NK and T cell immunity 01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:18.520 as good immunity versus IgG immunity as bad immunity 01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:20.720 that they're measured, they had VAD, CDC 01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:22.840 and everybody's measuring right now. 01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:26.960 And if you can address the different types of spike protein, 01:34:26.960 --> 01:34:29.160 meaning the first spike protein 01:34:29.160 --> 01:34:32.440 is the one that was transmitted by computer 01:34:32.600 --> 01:34:34.960 from Wuhan, allegedly. 01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:41.000 Number two, the spike protein that was allegedly engineered 01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:46.000 by Jason McClellan using proline restraints, 01:34:46.880 --> 01:34:48.120 six proline restraints 01:34:48.120 --> 01:34:53.000 and I emailed you a video of his presentation 01:34:53.000 --> 01:34:56.000 and how that spike protein invaginates into, 01:34:56.000 --> 01:35:01.240 goes into, gets into cell 01:35:01.240 --> 01:35:05.320 and number three, the spike proteins 01:35:05.320 --> 01:35:08.920 that are allegedly made by the DNA contaminants 01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:13.840 that seem to be correlating very well 01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:18.280 with the dangerous lot numbers or batch numbers 01:35:18.280 --> 01:35:19.640 and how bad is my batch. 01:35:20.760 --> 01:35:22.560 Thank you. 01:35:22.560 --> 01:35:25.040 T cell immunity and natural killer cell immunity 01:35:25.040 --> 01:35:27.120 is complicated and we don't know a lot about it 01:35:27.120 --> 01:35:32.120 but I can generalize to say that in my last three years 01:35:32.560 --> 01:35:36.880 of reading, it seems apparent from the primary literature 01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:40.320 that T cell immunity is formed to proteins 01:35:40.320 --> 01:35:43.760 that are conserved across a wide variety of viruses. 01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:45.440 One of the most conserved proteins 01:35:45.440 --> 01:35:47.800 would be these proteins that are in the replication, 01:35:47.800 --> 01:35:49.720 transcription complex 01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:52.240 and those proteins are highly conserved 01:35:52.240 --> 01:35:54.840 across all of these supposed variants of SARS. 01:35:54.840 --> 01:35:56.640 That's why they only show you the spike protein 01:35:56.640 --> 01:35:58.160 and only talk about that 01:35:58.160 --> 01:36:01.200 because of the other 30 proteins that are in the coronavirus 01:36:01.200 --> 01:36:04.240 they don't seem to be changing and they don't care. 01:36:04.240 --> 01:36:06.680 So that's already an obvious tell 01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:09.000 that this narrative about the spike protein 01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:11.480 is really not biologically plausible 01:36:11.480 --> 01:36:14.040 because you have other people saying 01:36:14.040 --> 01:36:16.360 that the spike protein is the only protein that matters 01:36:16.360 --> 01:36:17.600 or the only one that's changing 01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:19.800 and that's just not plausible given the way 01:36:19.800 --> 01:36:22.320 that we know RNA is copied. 01:36:22.320 --> 01:36:25.960 So I would suggest to you that T cells 01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:28.680 that are relevant for any of these RNA signals 01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:31.840 are gonna be primarily aimed at RNA dependent RNA polymerase 01:36:31.840 --> 01:36:35.400 or accessory proteins that are common across these viruses. 01:36:35.400 --> 01:36:37.480 Another common one is actually the N protein 01:36:37.480 --> 01:36:42.000 because it is around the N protein that this RNA is coiled 01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:45.720 and so you can't really vary that protein too much 01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:47.480 and then get packaging to go well, 01:36:47.480 --> 01:36:49.160 at least in their cartoons. 01:36:49.160 --> 01:36:52.000 So that is another gene that they have looked at 01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:55.320 in the past as a general indicator of coronavirus presence 01:36:55.320 --> 01:36:58.720 and now they have obfuscated this idea to say 01:36:58.720 --> 01:37:01.360 that this N protein can be used to identify 01:37:01.360 --> 01:37:04.800 a particular coronavirus and it's up to molecular biologists 01:37:04.800 --> 01:37:06.840 to judge whether that's true or not 01:37:06.840 --> 01:37:09.040 but the vast majority of these PCR's 01:37:09.040 --> 01:37:10.680 are not using nested primers 01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:15.080 and so there's a certain level of accuracy 01:37:15.080 --> 01:37:19.760 that's just not possible that a lot of academic biologists 01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:20.640 assume is there. 01:37:20.640 --> 01:37:22.680 If you want me to give you that little briefing 01:37:22.680 --> 01:37:24.600 and I've never really done it before 01:37:24.600 --> 01:37:26.600 but I think it's a good idea to try and do it here 01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:28.440 because you asked the question. 01:37:28.440 --> 01:37:31.480 When you amplify the whole virus genome, 01:37:31.480 --> 01:37:32.720 it's a very long genome 01:37:32.720 --> 01:37:34.120 and you actually are usually, sorry, 01:37:34.120 --> 01:37:35.720 I'm bumping my camera there. 01:37:35.720 --> 01:37:40.200 You usually are looking for like a very small amplicon. 01:37:40.200 --> 01:37:44.040 This amplicon might be only 300 bases long 01:37:44.040 --> 01:37:47.040 whereas the whole genome is 30,000 bases long. 01:37:47.040 --> 01:37:48.920 And so you might look for two amplicons. 01:37:48.920 --> 01:37:50.920 You might look for a spike protein amplicon 01:37:50.920 --> 01:37:54.040 and RNA dependent polymerase amplicon 01:37:54.080 --> 01:37:58.280 and this would have been in the old days, pre-2020, 01:38:00.120 --> 01:38:02.800 pre-2020, dang it, I keep hitting my camera. 01:38:02.800 --> 01:38:05.120 This would have been any coronavirus. 01:38:05.120 --> 01:38:09.280 You would have used PCR to find two small fragments 01:38:09.280 --> 01:38:11.680 and then you would have used metagenomic sequencing 01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:13.520 to amplify everything in the sample 01:38:13.520 --> 01:38:16.040 and then use a algorithm to see 01:38:16.040 --> 01:38:17.720 if there was a full coronavirus genome. 01:38:17.720 --> 01:38:20.640 Most of the time you wouldn't find a full genome 01:38:20.640 --> 01:38:23.360 and so instead you would just replace the genes 01:38:23.360 --> 01:38:26.520 you didn't find with genes that you found in the literature 01:38:26.520 --> 01:38:29.320 and then you would make a DNA clone of this sequence 01:38:29.320 --> 01:38:31.360 that you purported to have found in nature. 01:38:31.360 --> 01:38:34.680 After 2020, they've been doing the same thing 01:38:34.680 --> 01:38:36.120 where they first said that we're gonna look 01:38:36.120 --> 01:38:38.080 for a small amplicon in the spike protein 01:38:38.080 --> 01:38:39.720 and we're gonna look for a small amplicon 01:38:39.720 --> 01:38:42.440 in the RNA dependent RNA polymerase 01:38:42.440 --> 01:38:44.680 and then at some moment in time 01:38:44.680 --> 01:38:46.840 they changed what they're looking at 01:38:46.840 --> 01:38:48.480 and now they're looking at N protein 01:38:48.480 --> 01:38:50.640 which is even farther out here on the genome. 01:38:50.640 --> 01:38:51.480 It doesn't really matter. 01:38:51.520 --> 01:38:53.800 And this is N, this is S, this would be ORF1. 01:38:55.280 --> 01:38:57.920 The point is, is that when they look for these amplicons 01:38:57.920 --> 01:39:00.880 they're finding a very small signal 01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:03.840 and the best analogy that I can come up with 01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:08.840 would be to say that the local library got blown up by a bomb 01:39:08.840 --> 01:39:11.080 and none of the books got burnt 01:39:11.080 --> 01:39:13.760 but they all got blown into a million pieces 01:39:13.760 --> 01:39:16.880 and so I think that you, Jim, 01:39:16.880 --> 01:39:20.000 you've written a yoga book 01:39:20.080 --> 01:39:23.160 and I have primers that can find the sentences 01:39:23.160 --> 01:39:24.320 of your yoga book 01:39:24.320 --> 01:39:27.040 and if I find the sentences that correspond 01:39:27.040 --> 01:39:28.600 to your yoga book, I can prove to you 01:39:28.600 --> 01:39:31.280 that you wrote a yoga book you didn't even know you wrote 01:39:31.280 --> 01:39:33.200 and so I look for a few sentences 01:39:33.200 --> 01:39:35.240 that are pretty common across a lot of books 01:39:35.240 --> 01:39:39.640 like the following is an explanation of 01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:44.360 or an alternative way of doing this would be 01:39:44.360 --> 01:39:47.480 and then I claim that this is very specific for your book. 01:39:47.480 --> 01:39:49.360 I mean, look, it's right here on page 67. 01:39:49.360 --> 01:39:50.400 It's really your book 01:39:50.400 --> 01:39:54.200 and then I find that signal in the burnt exploded library 01:39:54.200 --> 01:39:56.040 and I say, look, Jim, you wrote a book 01:39:56.040 --> 01:39:59.400 and that's very similar to how they've found coronaviruses 01:39:59.400 --> 01:40:00.240 in the past. 01:40:00.240 --> 01:40:03.680 They look for signals and they find a very short portion 01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:07.480 that is thought to be shared across many coronaviruses 01:40:07.480 --> 01:40:11.800 and then they look for the whole book in this pile of words 01:40:11.800 --> 01:40:14.360 and it's very easy to assemble the whole yoga book 01:40:14.360 --> 01:40:17.280 if you can use all the words in an exploded dictionary 01:40:17.280 --> 01:40:19.200 or an exploded library 01:40:19.200 --> 01:40:21.680 and it's hard for us to know as biologists 01:40:21.680 --> 01:40:26.600 what signals are actually there at this size scale 01:40:26.600 --> 01:40:29.760 because the only way we have to probe it is with PCR. 01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:32.240 So you almost have to know what you're looking for 01:40:32.240 --> 01:40:34.080 before you look for it and then when you look for it, 01:40:34.080 --> 01:40:36.240 you won't know if it was there for real 01:40:36.240 --> 01:40:38.560 or if it was just a sentence from another book 01:40:39.600 --> 01:40:41.520 and the most important thing to see here 01:40:41.520 --> 01:40:44.680 is that in biology we're not using a dictionary 01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:46.560 that's got 10 million words in it 01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:48.400 and we're not using words that are spelled 01:40:48.400 --> 01:40:50.240 lots of different letters. 01:40:50.240 --> 01:40:52.080 We're using a limited number of bases 01:40:52.080 --> 01:40:54.080 that code for a limited number of codons 01:40:54.080 --> 01:40:57.440 which code for a limited number of amino acids. 01:40:57.440 --> 01:41:00.960 So the shorter you choose the amplicon to seek, 01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:03.000 the more likely it is that you're gonna find a signal 01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:05.240 that's not related to what you thought you were, 01:41:05.240 --> 01:41:07.560 i.e. if you look for once upon a time 01:41:07.560 --> 01:41:11.080 you're gonna find a lot of signals in that blown up library. 01:41:11.080 --> 01:41:13.520 And so to get back to your question 01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:15.600 to make sure I don't lose my track of my thought here 01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:19.320 the spike in Wuhan is actually a, 01:41:19.320 --> 01:41:20.480 I'm gonna cut back over here, 01:41:20.480 --> 01:41:23.960 I apologize for this, I'm just gonna do it quick like this. 01:41:23.960 --> 01:41:26.160 The spike in Wuhan, that's this camera, 01:41:26.160 --> 01:41:31.160 spike in Wuhan is a construct that was made like this. 01:41:31.240 --> 01:41:33.920 It was made with an assembly 01:41:33.920 --> 01:41:38.000 and my question would be in terms of the clone 01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:41.520 is that keep in mind this has to do with vaccines 01:41:41.520 --> 01:41:43.240 and it has to do with converting us, 01:41:43.240 --> 01:41:45.120 I apologize for this long answer 01:41:45.120 --> 01:41:46.200 but I hope it's good. 01:41:46.200 --> 01:41:48.840 And converting us to believe 01:41:48.840 --> 01:41:51.560 that the previous combination of substances 01:41:51.560 --> 01:41:54.200 which we injected to Augmentia immune system 01:41:54.200 --> 01:41:57.480 is not as good as the current new combination 01:41:57.480 --> 01:42:00.200 of substances that we augmentia immune system with. 01:42:00.200 --> 01:42:03.320 And the way that they fooled you with that 01:42:03.320 --> 01:42:07.640 is they probably put this spike protein 01:42:07.640 --> 01:42:11.600 that they wanted to inject to you into these places. 01:42:11.600 --> 01:42:13.160 And that's what I think you're hinting at 01:42:13.160 --> 01:42:16.120 is that the design is not only the proleens 01:42:16.120 --> 01:42:20.120 to keep it from being able to change confirmation. 01:42:20.120 --> 01:42:24.720 The design probably was the insertion of small epitopes 01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:27.720 that companies like Epivax and other companies 01:42:27.720 --> 01:42:29.320 have been working on for decades 01:42:29.320 --> 01:42:33.040 to try and find ways to make proteins 01:42:33.040 --> 01:42:35.160 that your immune system ignores 01:42:35.160 --> 01:42:38.160 into proteins that your immune system pays attention to. 01:42:38.160 --> 01:42:41.160 Because the current way or the old school way 01:42:41.160 --> 01:42:42.480 that you do that is that you take 01:42:42.480 --> 01:42:44.960 a recombinant protein that you made in a laboratory 01:42:44.960 --> 01:42:47.200 and you inject it into the muscle of a child 01:42:47.200 --> 01:42:50.280 in combination with heavy metals or other toxins. 01:42:50.280 --> 01:42:52.280 And those toxins attract the attention 01:42:52.280 --> 01:42:53.960 of the immune system and macrophages 01:42:53.960 --> 01:42:56.280 and they try to process this garbage. 01:42:56.280 --> 01:43:00.600 And one of the arguments is that the processing 01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:03.760 of that toxin also causes the processing of those proteins 01:43:03.760 --> 01:43:06.480 and then you develop antibody immunity 01:43:06.480 --> 01:43:08.080 to those proteins that you made. 01:43:08.080 --> 01:43:09.960 The trouble is is that your immune system 01:43:09.960 --> 01:43:12.920 is learning to respond to something on the inside now. 01:43:12.920 --> 01:43:15.720 And so the antibodies that you make are on the inside. 01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:19.640 The T cells that you made are not to anything 01:43:19.640 --> 01:43:20.800 other than those proteins. 01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:22.160 And when those proteins aren't around, 01:43:22.160 --> 01:43:24.480 those T cells don't have anything to do. 01:43:24.480 --> 01:43:28.760 And the trick here, I'm just gonna keep talking 01:43:28.760 --> 01:43:30.480 because I think this is all really good stuff 01:43:30.480 --> 01:43:33.040 that probably you don't hear very often. 01:43:33.040 --> 01:43:34.400 The other thing to keep in mind 01:43:34.400 --> 01:43:35.960 is that there's two different mechanisms 01:43:35.960 --> 01:43:38.120 that are going on here with regard 01:43:38.120 --> 01:43:41.160 to the immunity. 01:43:41.160 --> 01:43:44.880 So when a virus is replicating in your cells 01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:46.880 or when your cells are transfected, 01:43:48.320 --> 01:43:52.080 the main thing to realize is that there is a molecule called, 01:43:52.080 --> 01:43:53.560 I'm drawing it in the wrong shape 01:43:53.560 --> 01:43:55.080 because this is like the shape of an antibody, 01:43:55.080 --> 01:43:56.760 but it shouldn't be really in the shape of antibody. 01:43:56.760 --> 01:43:57.920 I apologize. 01:43:57.920 --> 01:44:02.400 But it's a molecule that can present other molecules. 01:44:02.400 --> 01:44:05.040 And this molecule is called MHC. 01:44:05.040 --> 01:44:07.480 There are two different kinds, MHC one and MHC two 01:44:07.480 --> 01:44:08.680 that I don't wanna confuse you with. 01:44:08.680 --> 01:44:13.520 Just understand that when your cells are making stuff, 01:44:13.520 --> 01:44:17.000 they need to report what they're making on the outside 01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:20.720 by presenting small fragments to the immune system. 01:44:20.720 --> 01:44:23.160 And so there are T cells that are patrolling 01:44:23.160 --> 01:44:24.680 your immune system all the time 01:44:24.680 --> 01:44:27.560 and checking that like a little bouncer, 01:44:27.560 --> 01:44:30.080 checking to see that the ID on this cell is okay. 01:44:30.080 --> 01:44:31.560 Are you guys cancer cells? 01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:32.880 Are you doing what you're supposed to do 01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:35.080 and making act in and other things? 01:44:35.080 --> 01:44:38.120 And so there are natural killer cells 01:44:38.120 --> 01:44:40.920 and there are T cells that are doing this check 01:44:40.920 --> 01:44:45.000 that are seeing what on the major histocompatibility complex 01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:47.800 is being presented and whether that jives 01:44:47.800 --> 01:44:51.000 with the other signals that are present on that cell 01:44:51.000 --> 01:44:52.960 and so that the immune system can confirm 01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:55.040 that this cell's doing what it's supposed to do. 01:44:55.040 --> 01:44:58.720 When a cell is producing virus, 01:44:58.720 --> 01:45:01.280 the idea is is that on the MHC molecule, 01:45:01.280 --> 01:45:03.040 there will be viral proteins presented 01:45:03.040 --> 01:45:05.120 that the T cells can recognize and come 01:45:05.120 --> 01:45:10.120 and destroy this cell before it's able to release full variants. 01:45:11.080 --> 01:45:15.600 And of course, the earlier that protein is expressed on MHC, 01:45:15.600 --> 01:45:16.840 the better chance we have. 01:45:16.840 --> 01:45:19.680 If you recall that cartoon we looked at an hour ago, 01:45:19.680 --> 01:45:21.520 the first proteins that are expressed 01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:24.480 during coronavirus infection, according to the scientists, 01:45:24.480 --> 01:45:28.520 are these replicase transcription complex proteins. 01:45:28.520 --> 01:45:31.240 So if those are presented and they are shared 01:45:31.240 --> 01:45:33.680 across the number of these viral species, 01:45:33.680 --> 01:45:36.240 then this would be the way that T cells would be activated 01:45:36.240 --> 01:45:40.720 and have absolutely nothing to do with the spike protein, 01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:44.120 which would be necessarily expressed later. 01:45:44.120 --> 01:45:47.160 And also because of the nature of the way it is, 01:45:47.160 --> 01:45:48.960 it's gonna be on the outside of the cell, 01:45:48.960 --> 01:45:52.560 not presented on MHC, but on the outside of the cell, 01:45:52.560 --> 01:45:54.000 which is a very different signal. 01:45:54.000 --> 01:45:55.560 Now this is the worst part. 01:45:55.560 --> 01:45:57.520 When we transfect a cell, 01:45:58.160 --> 01:46:02.360 the MHC is not going to be presenting in the same way 01:46:02.360 --> 01:46:05.760 because all these antiviral things are not activated 01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:09.240 because they've chemically altered the RNA 01:46:09.240 --> 01:46:13.200 to make it invisible to our cells, internal machinery. 01:46:13.200 --> 01:46:16.640 It just sits there and it's there for a long time. 01:46:16.640 --> 01:46:19.200 And it expresses the spike protein 01:46:19.200 --> 01:46:22.040 on the outside of the body or outside of the cell 01:46:22.040 --> 01:46:23.760 and it expresses small fragments 01:46:23.760 --> 01:46:25.880 of the spike protein on MHC. 01:46:25.920 --> 01:46:28.760 This is a problem because if the body 01:46:28.760 --> 01:46:30.480 doesn't, can't tell the difference, 01:46:30.480 --> 01:46:32.640 it's gonna destroy this cell 01:46:32.640 --> 01:46:35.480 and then it's gonna try and process it. 01:46:35.480 --> 01:46:36.880 And every time it does that, 01:46:36.880 --> 01:46:38.600 there's a potential that it's gonna process 01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:41.200 something of its own and it's gonna cause autoimmunity. 01:46:41.200 --> 01:46:45.280 That's less likely to occur in an infection 01:46:45.280 --> 01:46:48.960 because that infection is occurring at a barrier. 01:46:48.960 --> 01:46:52.240 Cells that are patrolled regularly by the immune system 01:46:52.240 --> 01:46:53.960 like epithelial cells, 01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:56.360 the orientation of the immune system 01:46:56.360 --> 01:46:58.440 is oriented around patrolling those cells. 01:46:58.440 --> 01:47:01.920 If you transfect someone and that LNP goes anywhere 01:47:01.920 --> 01:47:05.360 in the body, then cells are gonna be doing, 01:47:05.360 --> 01:47:07.480 they're gonna be presenting bad proteins 01:47:07.480 --> 01:47:09.880 that normally the immune system does not expect them 01:47:09.880 --> 01:47:12.800 to express bad proteins, not as an expressed, 01:47:12.800 --> 01:47:17.800 the proteins that infection vulnerable barrier cells 01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:18.640 are expressing. 01:47:18.640 --> 01:47:21.240 And so this is a whole different task 01:47:21.240 --> 01:47:22.720 for the immune system to sort out. 01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:26.400 And so your question of spike in Wuhan is so important 01:47:26.400 --> 01:47:28.960 because the idea for me would be 01:47:28.960 --> 01:47:32.160 that if you really wanted to pull off this show 01:47:32.160 --> 01:47:35.240 and make sure that the entire Earth thought 01:47:35.240 --> 01:47:37.440 that transfection was pretty effective, 01:47:37.440 --> 01:47:41.840 you better choose a protein that your body won't ignore. 01:47:42.800 --> 01:47:44.160 You better choose a protein 01:47:44.160 --> 01:47:45.880 that after the fourth transfection, 01:47:45.880 --> 01:47:49.960 you still get a bump in antibody response. 01:47:49.960 --> 01:47:52.440 And that's not guaranteed for every protein. 01:47:52.440 --> 01:47:55.560 In fact, most proteins without any alteration, 01:47:55.560 --> 01:48:00.560 your body would build tolerance to very, very, very quickly. 01:48:00.960 --> 01:48:04.040 And so it's very striking that even from the fourth 01:48:04.040 --> 01:48:05.800 transfection, people are still building 01:48:05.800 --> 01:48:10.480 a noticeable bump of antibody seroprevalence. 01:48:10.480 --> 01:48:11.840 That's very dangerous. 01:48:11.840 --> 01:48:15.840 And it's dangerous because again, this attack, 01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:17.680 it should not be blood-based. 01:48:17.680 --> 01:48:19.960 So there's no reason to have a preponderance 01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:21.800 of IgG antibodies. 01:48:21.800 --> 01:48:23.080 You want to have T-cells 01:48:23.080 --> 01:48:26.120 that are eliminating viral infection before it starts 01:48:26.120 --> 01:48:30.200 in the cells where viral expression is supposed to be. 01:48:30.200 --> 01:48:33.120 So this whole engineering of the spike protein 01:48:33.120 --> 01:48:35.640 may have even been kind of a red herring 01:48:35.640 --> 01:48:38.960 to make you confused about the fact that, 01:48:38.960 --> 01:48:41.920 okay, what's the dangerous part about this spike? 01:48:41.920 --> 01:48:44.600 And thinking about whether they have eliminated 01:48:44.600 --> 01:48:46.400 the dangerous part of the spike or not, 01:48:46.400 --> 01:48:49.200 when in reality, it is the transfection 01:48:49.200 --> 01:48:51.080 of your cells and the randomness of it 01:48:51.080 --> 01:48:53.440 that leads to the dangers rather than 01:48:53.440 --> 01:48:56.800 any particular aspect of the transfection in general. 01:48:58.120 --> 01:49:00.600 And then if I go all the way to the double-stranded DNA 01:49:00.600 --> 01:49:02.880 question, it's not that I don't think 01:49:02.880 --> 01:49:06.080 the double-stranded DNA packaged in a lipid nanoparticle 01:49:06.080 --> 01:49:07.280 or not wouldn't be dangerous. 01:49:07.280 --> 01:49:08.840 I think it's probably pretty dangerous. 01:49:08.840 --> 01:49:11.440 That's why they keep it out of all biologics 01:49:11.440 --> 01:49:15.040 using anion chromatography to remove it 01:49:15.040 --> 01:49:16.920 from monoclonal antibodies, for example. 01:49:16.920 --> 01:49:21.120 There's no DNA allowed in a protein biologic none. 01:49:21.120 --> 01:49:23.200 If you have DNA in it, it will be canceled. 01:49:23.200 --> 01:49:24.880 That lot will be destroyed. 01:49:24.880 --> 01:49:28.760 So this is an extra interesting aspect of making RNA 01:49:28.760 --> 01:49:30.960 because you can't use the normal procedures, 01:49:30.960 --> 01:49:34.440 the accepted gold standard to get rid of the contamination 01:49:34.440 --> 01:49:37.640 because you can't separate RNA and DNA very easily. 01:49:37.640 --> 01:49:39.920 So that's another tricky thing that they just completely 01:49:39.920 --> 01:49:42.680 ignored as they rolled out this transfection 01:49:42.680 --> 01:49:45.440 and then conveniently brought it up as a problem 01:49:45.440 --> 01:49:47.520 only afterward, we rushed it, we didn't know. 01:49:47.520 --> 01:49:49.400 We should've used better methodologies. 01:49:49.400 --> 01:49:51.240 We shouldn't have made such big batches. 01:49:51.240 --> 01:49:54.600 All of these are excuses to make you think 01:49:54.600 --> 01:49:57.520 that transfection could be good if they had done it right. 01:49:57.520 --> 01:50:00.360 And that I have been saying is a lie 01:50:00.360 --> 01:50:02.120 for at least three years, if not four. 01:50:02.120 --> 01:50:03.600 It was the only thing I could see through 01:50:03.600 --> 01:50:06.200 from the very beginning that they were confounding 01:50:06.200 --> 01:50:09.200 this narrative of, oh my gosh, we chose the wrong spike 01:50:09.200 --> 01:50:10.760 and the spike was gaining a function. 01:50:10.760 --> 01:50:12.280 Now it's even worse. 01:50:12.360 --> 01:50:15.560 And that was all just, that's just all an act 01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:17.760 to make you think that transfection could be good 01:50:17.760 --> 01:50:20.120 if they just got their act together. 01:50:20.120 --> 01:50:22.560 Holy cow, I hope I answered something. 01:50:22.560 --> 01:50:24.800 Yeah, well you took Jay Jay Jay. 01:50:24.800 --> 01:50:26.160 Thanks very much. 01:50:26.160 --> 01:50:28.480 But 20 minutes and you've got six hands up 01:50:28.480 --> 01:50:29.880 and we're finishing in half an hour. 01:50:29.880 --> 01:50:31.160 So you better handle it. 01:50:31.160 --> 01:50:32.880 Okay, faster next time. 01:50:32.880 --> 01:50:33.720 Yes. 01:50:33.720 --> 01:50:34.560 So, Jerry. 01:50:36.280 --> 01:50:37.320 Hi, Jay Jay. 01:50:37.320 --> 01:50:39.480 Hello, my favorite long hair. 01:50:40.320 --> 01:50:41.800 Yeah. 01:50:41.800 --> 01:50:44.800 A stroke off GP from Ireland. 01:50:44.800 --> 01:50:47.440 And our suspended GP from Ireland, 01:50:47.440 --> 01:50:50.880 I've still suspended temporarily three years ago. 01:50:50.880 --> 01:50:53.720 You just talked to Steve in there about, 01:50:53.720 --> 01:50:55.760 you know, I don't know, I don't want to waste your time, 01:50:55.760 --> 01:50:57.040 but you're talking about Steve, 01:50:57.040 --> 01:50:59.760 to Steve in a sort of being cut and being fooled. 01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:01.040 It was all about perspective. 01:51:01.040 --> 01:51:03.760 It's a perspective of the observer. 01:51:03.760 --> 01:51:06.240 I as a GP could see there was no illness. 01:51:06.240 --> 01:51:07.880 There were no major illness in the community. 01:51:07.880 --> 01:51:09.920 There were no people dying of COVID. 01:51:09.920 --> 01:51:13.560 So it's very, very easy for me to cop on to the fact 01:51:13.560 --> 01:51:14.920 that COVID was a hoax. 01:51:14.920 --> 01:51:18.680 And that in effect, you know, it didn't smell right. 01:51:18.680 --> 01:51:21.800 And then to look at the PCR test, you know, 01:51:21.800 --> 01:51:25.240 it's quite obvious that it really couldn't diagnose COVID 01:51:25.240 --> 01:51:27.960 or a pathogen as such. 01:51:27.960 --> 01:51:30.680 But what I'd like to ask you about, 01:51:30.680 --> 01:51:34.920 you used to work clone, you know, surely all viruses 01:51:34.920 --> 01:51:38.200 or clones in the sense that are in exact replicov, 01:51:38.200 --> 01:51:42.960 you know, in the absence of a sexual reproduction, 01:51:42.960 --> 01:51:44.080 but they are a clone. 01:51:44.080 --> 01:51:47.640 So I'd just like to elucidate your use of the word clone. 01:51:47.640 --> 01:51:48.480 Sure. 01:51:48.480 --> 01:51:50.520 You know, I'll try and draw a little picture of it 01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:51.520 because I think it's important 01:51:51.520 --> 01:51:55.040 and a lot of people are asking that question, so it's good. 01:51:55.040 --> 01:51:57.960 So I think where I would like to go with this 01:51:57.960 --> 01:52:01.160 is just to draw a little cartoon about how it's done. 01:52:01.160 --> 01:52:06.160 So when you copy DNA, the DNA strand opens up, right? 01:52:07.920 --> 01:52:10.040 And then it comes back together as it's copied. 01:52:10.040 --> 01:52:15.040 And that coming back together can reveal mismatched bases. 01:52:15.600 --> 01:52:18.400 And because of the nature of copying DNA, 01:52:18.400 --> 01:52:21.280 there are actually accessory proteins 01:52:21.280 --> 01:52:25.880 that are accessory to the main protein, the RNA polymerase. 01:52:25.880 --> 01:52:28.240 There are accessory proteins that can proofread 01:52:28.240 --> 01:52:30.480 and correct the mismatched bases that are here. 01:52:30.720 --> 01:52:33.680 And that's well known DNA replication in bacteria 01:52:33.680 --> 01:52:35.640 is very high fidelity. 01:52:35.640 --> 01:52:39.480 But in the cartoon of a viral replication, 01:52:39.480 --> 01:52:42.240 you have a single stranded RNA 01:52:42.240 --> 01:52:45.920 that is copied by an RNA dependent RNA polymerase. 01:52:45.920 --> 01:52:48.880 And that copying is definitely not high fidelity. 01:52:48.880 --> 01:52:50.240 And even though they claim 01:52:50.240 --> 01:52:51.920 that there are accessory proteins 01:52:51.920 --> 01:52:56.920 that can increase the fidelity, the error rate is real. 01:52:57.080 --> 01:53:00.880 And so when you copy a 30,000 base pair RNA, 01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:04.000 it is by necessity, according to most virologists, 01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:06.920 you will make three errors. 01:53:06.920 --> 01:53:09.480 You cannot, it is not possible 01:53:09.480 --> 01:53:11.120 to use an RNA dependent polymerase 01:53:11.120 --> 01:53:14.000 and copy 30,000 bases perfectly. 01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:15.320 You can do that with DNA 01:53:15.320 --> 01:53:18.560 because there's a proofreading step that corrects. 01:53:18.560 --> 01:53:23.560 So not only is this enzyme, the DNA polymerase, 01:53:24.560 --> 01:53:28.960 is that not only is that enzyme known to be orders 01:53:28.960 --> 01:53:30.440 of magnitude higher fidelity, 01:53:30.440 --> 01:53:32.880 but it's known to have accessory proteins 01:53:32.880 --> 01:53:35.520 that are orders of magnitude higher fidelity. 01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:40.160 And it's all dependent on this double stranded model. 01:53:40.160 --> 01:53:43.480 And that's absent in all RNA viruses 01:53:43.480 --> 01:53:45.040 because they're all single stranded. 01:53:45.040 --> 01:53:47.680 It's either there are a couple double stranded RNA viruses. 01:53:47.680 --> 01:53:48.800 I should be careful. 01:53:48.800 --> 01:53:50.840 But most of them are negative or positive strand. 01:53:50.840 --> 01:53:51.960 And positive strand means 01:53:51.960 --> 01:53:54.080 that they can be translated directly into protein. 01:53:54.080 --> 01:53:56.520 Negative means they have to have their own enzyme 01:53:56.520 --> 01:53:57.680 to do that translation. 01:53:57.680 --> 01:54:00.760 So flu and measles need their own enzyme. 01:54:00.760 --> 01:54:02.720 AIDS needs its own enzyme, 01:54:02.720 --> 01:54:04.360 but coronaviruses are special. 01:54:04.360 --> 01:54:06.800 They don't because they're positive stranded RNAs. 01:54:06.800 --> 01:54:10.320 They can be translated directly into proteins. 01:54:10.320 --> 01:54:12.800 And one of those proteins that they need to translate 01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:15.280 right away is the RNA dependent RNA polymerase 01:54:15.280 --> 01:54:17.360 before they can ever copy themselves. 01:54:18.280 --> 01:54:21.400 And so the reason why I would argue 01:54:21.400 --> 01:54:24.680 that these viruses, if they exist at all, 01:54:24.680 --> 01:54:26.320 are so difficult to culture. 01:54:26.320 --> 01:54:30.240 For example, they might do a 96 well plate preparation 01:54:30.240 --> 01:54:33.440 from a bat and only two cells 01:54:33.440 --> 01:54:34.960 will show cytopathic effects 01:54:34.960 --> 01:54:37.960 and only two cells will be PCR positive. 01:54:37.960 --> 01:54:39.440 And they can't culture from that. 01:54:39.440 --> 01:54:41.360 They can only sequence. 01:54:41.360 --> 01:54:43.240 And then the way they overcome it 01:54:43.240 --> 01:54:47.240 is they take the sequence that they find in their laboratory 01:54:47.240 --> 01:54:50.360 and they convert it to a DNA molecule. 01:54:50.360 --> 01:54:52.640 And the reason why this is important, Jerry, 01:54:52.640 --> 01:54:55.440 is because they can make as much of this DNA as they want. 01:54:55.440 --> 01:54:57.040 They can make a truckload of it, 01:54:57.040 --> 01:54:59.080 like a literal tanker truck 01:54:59.080 --> 01:55:02.920 full of almost perfect copies of this consensus genome. 01:55:02.920 --> 01:55:05.800 And then because commercial products exist 01:55:05.800 --> 01:55:08.640 like T7 RNA polymerase, 01:55:08.640 --> 01:55:13.640 they can convert that DNA to a perfect copy of the genome. 01:55:14.800 --> 01:55:17.000 And that perfect copy of the genome 01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:19.560 in that quantity, a truckload, 01:55:19.560 --> 01:55:23.760 cannot exist in any bat or in any bat cave 01:55:23.760 --> 01:55:27.000 or any community of animals 01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:31.520 because those RNA molecules are by definition all different 01:55:31.520 --> 01:55:34.040 because they've all been copied by RNA polymerase 01:55:34.040 --> 01:55:36.600 and therefore none of them are the same. 01:55:36.600 --> 01:55:39.560 And so I can create a purity of RNA 01:55:39.560 --> 01:55:41.520 using this cloning technique 01:55:41.520 --> 01:55:43.520 that no matter what culturing techniques, 01:55:43.520 --> 01:55:45.560 no matter how sick the animal is, 01:55:45.560 --> 01:55:47.400 no matter how virulent the virus is, 01:55:47.400 --> 01:55:50.440 by definition, none of the RNA molecules can be the same. 01:55:51.320 --> 01:55:54.440 And this is the illusion that they have told us 01:55:54.440 --> 01:55:56.760 when if an RNA molecule goes 01:55:56.760 --> 01:55:59.320 in a million different directions on Earth, 01:55:59.320 --> 01:56:01.440 but all of those RNA molecules just happen 01:56:01.440 --> 01:56:03.360 to random walk to Delta 01:56:03.360 --> 01:56:07.040 and then random walk to Amacron, 01:56:07.040 --> 01:56:10.920 there are no evolutionary mechanisms inside 01:56:10.920 --> 01:56:15.520 of an RNA molecule coded in lipid protein 01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:18.840 to account for these directional moves. 01:56:18.840 --> 01:56:19.880 It's just not possible 01:56:19.880 --> 01:56:23.600 because the fundamental randomness of this process 01:56:23.600 --> 01:56:26.200 and it's this process that they most don't want us 01:56:26.200 --> 01:56:29.960 to talk about because it undermines the whole concept 01:56:29.960 --> 01:56:33.240 of it's still going, it's still going 01:56:33.240 --> 01:56:34.760 because it can't be. 01:56:34.760 --> 01:56:36.360 And it's much more likely the case 01:56:36.360 --> 01:56:39.760 that if there is a real bonafide signal 01:56:39.760 --> 01:56:41.880 that it's just a signal that was always there 01:56:42.880 --> 01:56:47.040 and that's the best I can do for pencil drawing. 01:56:47.040 --> 01:56:52.040 But anyway, you're muted again, Jerry, sorry. 01:56:56.800 --> 01:57:00.120 That's unusual for me, I'm not usually muted. 01:57:00.120 --> 01:57:04.160 At one stage you said they're getting close to it. 01:57:04.160 --> 01:57:05.640 What was it? 01:57:05.640 --> 01:57:09.840 Was it a call a depopulation? 01:57:09.880 --> 01:57:13.160 No, you went down to say it was transhumanism 01:57:13.160 --> 01:57:15.400 in our children, our grandchildren. 01:57:15.400 --> 01:57:17.320 I looked and they've come to the idea 01:57:17.320 --> 01:57:20.200 in the conclusion that in effect 01:57:20.200 --> 01:57:23.360 the vaccinations were about a call 01:57:23.360 --> 01:57:28.120 or a depopulation effort 01:57:28.120 --> 01:57:32.040 rather than just totalitarian control. 01:57:32.040 --> 01:57:34.480 Would you agree or disagree with that? 01:57:34.480 --> 01:57:43.240 I mean, I hesitate to say that they would make any moves 01:57:43.240 --> 01:57:44.240 to prevent that. 01:57:44.240 --> 01:57:49.440 But I do think that there is a real multi-generational move 01:57:49.440 --> 01:57:53.560 here with the idea of getting our children 01:57:53.560 --> 01:57:56.600 to accept a different way of governance. 01:57:56.600 --> 01:57:59.880 And so I do think that this is a long move. 01:57:59.880 --> 01:58:01.640 And so they're never going to convince us 01:58:01.640 --> 01:58:02.960 that the vaccine schedule is good. 01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:05.040 They just need us to shut up long enough 01:58:05.040 --> 01:58:06.720 so that the college kids accept it 01:58:06.720 --> 01:58:07.880 and they give it to their kids. 01:58:07.880 --> 01:58:12.600 And so we're also in a very weird state right now, Jerry, 01:58:12.600 --> 01:58:14.880 because it's very hard for us in this group 01:58:14.880 --> 01:58:16.800 to know how far our message is going 01:58:16.800 --> 01:58:18.800 because it often just echoes off of people 01:58:18.800 --> 01:58:20.880 that we already know are following us. 01:58:20.880 --> 01:58:24.080 And so it's very possible that we're reaching farther 01:58:24.080 --> 01:58:25.240 and we're not allowed to see it. 01:58:25.240 --> 01:58:27.440 It's also very possible that we're not getting anywhere 01:58:27.440 --> 01:58:28.600 and we're just running in a wheel. 01:58:28.600 --> 01:58:33.000 So I'm optimistic because this group expands 01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:34.560 but I'm still very pessimistic 01:58:34.560 --> 01:58:36.840 because we are up against a monster for sure. 01:58:39.040 --> 01:58:39.880 Thank you, Jerry. 01:58:39.880 --> 01:58:40.880 You're very welcome. 01:58:40.880 --> 01:58:41.720 Great help. 01:58:41.720 --> 01:58:42.560 Thanks. 01:58:42.560 --> 01:58:44.360 You're welcome. 01:58:44.360 --> 01:58:45.200 Thanks. 01:58:45.200 --> 01:58:46.040 Thank you, Jerry. 01:58:46.040 --> 01:58:47.760 Keep riding that motorbike around Ireland. 01:58:47.760 --> 01:58:48.960 Wendy, you're next. 01:58:53.040 --> 01:58:54.200 Hi there. 01:58:54.200 --> 01:58:55.600 Thanks so much for that presentation. 01:58:55.600 --> 01:58:57.840 I always love listening to you. 01:58:57.840 --> 01:59:02.840 My question, I'm very interested in the DNA contamination. 01:59:03.720 --> 01:59:08.720 And so what you're talking about with Kevin McCurnan, 01:59:08.720 --> 01:59:11.320 I'm curious about the plasmid. 01:59:11.320 --> 01:59:14.160 I'm curious about the DNA fragments 01:59:14.160 --> 01:59:16.400 and the open reading frames. 01:59:17.760 --> 01:59:22.760 So it's been published by Kevin McCurnan, 01:59:24.440 --> 01:59:25.920 David Speaker and Jessica Rose. 01:59:25.920 --> 01:59:29.720 They wrote a paper looking at the sequences in the plasmid 01:59:29.720 --> 01:59:33.720 and it looks like there was a reverse open reading frame 01:59:33.720 --> 01:59:38.720 that was also a gene that seems to be a spider silk gene. 01:59:39.880 --> 01:59:43.080 And I'm curious about this because of the fact 01:59:43.080 --> 01:59:45.880 that the embolomers have been finding these 01:59:45.880 --> 01:59:47.760 weird slots in blood vessels. 01:59:47.760 --> 01:59:50.680 There's weird fibers that people are seeing 01:59:50.680 --> 01:59:53.600 in blood samples in the microscope. 01:59:53.600 --> 01:59:57.200 And there's also now coming about people 01:59:57.200 --> 02:00:02.200 that have weird clot kinds of things in their large intestine 02:00:02.920 --> 02:00:04.040 that they're kind of grouping out 02:00:04.040 --> 02:00:06.760 when they do parasitic cleanses 02:00:06.760 --> 02:00:10.680 that look strangely like the embolomer clots. 02:00:10.680 --> 02:00:15.680 And it seems that there's silk proteins in those clots. 02:00:16.440 --> 02:00:20.320 So I'm curious about your thoughts on that. 02:00:20.320 --> 02:00:23.640 Are those DNA fragments, you know, 02:00:23.640 --> 02:00:25.960 I know you said that any DNA getting in 02:00:25.960 --> 02:00:27.120 can be potentially bad. 02:00:27.120 --> 02:00:28.960 And especially if DNA fragments get in 02:00:28.960 --> 02:00:30.560 and interrupt other genes, 02:00:30.560 --> 02:00:34.680 it could be contributing to the turbocancer stuff. 02:00:34.680 --> 02:00:37.600 But if pieces of these open reading frames 02:00:37.600 --> 02:00:39.960 are getting in and making spider silk proteins, 02:00:39.960 --> 02:00:43.120 I'm just curious about your thoughts on that. 02:00:43.120 --> 02:00:45.760 Wow, I hadn't heard that before. 02:00:45.760 --> 02:00:47.000 I have to look that up. 02:00:51.160 --> 02:00:56.160 I would be, I would be first very careful 02:00:57.080 --> 02:00:59.760 to fully rule out the possibility 02:00:59.760 --> 02:01:04.600 that endothelial cells are being destroyed by neutrophils 02:01:04.600 --> 02:01:06.240 and being cleaned up. 02:01:06.240 --> 02:01:07.480 And when they are cleaned up, 02:01:07.480 --> 02:01:11.560 there is a process of fibrinogen being produced 02:01:11.560 --> 02:01:13.040 or fibrin being produced. 02:01:13.040 --> 02:01:14.080 I get those two mixed up, 02:01:14.080 --> 02:01:15.920 which ones the breakdown and which ones the not. 02:01:15.920 --> 02:01:18.760 But there is an enzyme that comes along 02:01:18.760 --> 02:01:23.760 with neutrophil elastase that destroys these endothelial cells. 02:01:25.920 --> 02:01:27.640 And in the process of doing that, 02:01:27.640 --> 02:01:29.800 there are clotting factors that are produced, 02:01:29.800 --> 02:01:32.280 there are things that happen 02:01:32.280 --> 02:01:33.920 that can result in this micro clotting. 02:01:33.920 --> 02:01:35.720 And it's not clear to me, 02:01:35.720 --> 02:01:38.480 I don't know if this would be, 02:01:38.480 --> 02:01:40.280 I assume be related to the stuff 02:01:40.280 --> 02:01:41.960 that secret bacti has worked on 02:01:41.960 --> 02:01:43.880 and all these embalmers have worked on. 02:01:43.880 --> 02:01:46.760 I just don't, I would caution you to realize 02:01:46.760 --> 02:01:51.760 that the fibrinogen fibrin clotting cascade 02:01:52.240 --> 02:01:54.320 that has been described by these people 02:01:54.320 --> 02:01:56.960 has no special biology 02:01:56.960 --> 02:01:59.880 and it is just how antibodies and how clotting 02:01:59.880 --> 02:02:03.520 and how platelets and how this might cascade out of control. 02:02:03.520 --> 02:02:05.680 And so adding a silk protein to that 02:02:05.680 --> 02:02:09.560 could be potentially something that could be later debunked 02:02:09.560 --> 02:02:12.160 or something that could be disproven. 02:02:12.160 --> 02:02:15.560 When in reality, it's a criminal investigation. 02:02:15.560 --> 02:02:17.920 We don't have to prove where these clots 02:02:17.920 --> 02:02:20.440 are coming from in order to call it a crime. 02:02:20.440 --> 02:02:23.240 And so I would always encourage you 02:02:23.240 --> 02:02:26.840 not to get too deep into the minutia of the explanation. 02:02:26.840 --> 02:02:30.360 In this case, it's very enticing to think about that, 02:02:30.360 --> 02:02:33.240 but I would say that SV40 as a sequence 02:02:33.240 --> 02:02:36.040 might be more interesting than silk protein. 02:02:36.040 --> 02:02:37.800 Because again, if it's silk protein, 02:02:37.800 --> 02:02:40.840 it should be very, very simple to prove it. 02:02:40.840 --> 02:02:44.400 The protein should be very obviously not fibrinogen 02:02:44.400 --> 02:02:46.320 or not fibrin to fibrin base. 02:02:46.320 --> 02:02:48.440 So if there's a serine. 02:02:48.440 --> 02:02:52.040 So yeah, and apparently it is obviously no fibrin. 02:02:52.040 --> 02:02:53.560 So all of that has been looked at. 02:02:53.560 --> 02:02:55.560 I appreciate all of those thoughts. 02:02:55.560 --> 02:02:59.080 So Kevin McKernan, and now that I know more 02:02:59.080 --> 02:03:00.240 about your thoughts about him, 02:03:00.240 --> 02:03:03.720 he has sequenced that reverse open reading frame 02:03:03.720 --> 02:03:07.240 in the plasmids that are contaminating the vaccines. 02:03:07.240 --> 02:03:11.280 I can paste the paper that was published in the chat. 02:03:11.280 --> 02:03:12.120 Sure. 02:03:12.120 --> 02:03:13.720 And then you can read that paper. 02:03:13.720 --> 02:03:14.720 Sure, please do. 02:03:14.720 --> 02:03:18.720 It's cold. 02:03:20.160 --> 02:03:22.400 The other thing that I would just talk about 02:03:22.400 --> 02:03:23.720 while you're putting this in there 02:03:23.720 --> 02:03:27.120 is that one of the things that I think is very much overlooked 02:03:27.120 --> 02:03:29.200 is what happens to the lipid nanoparticle 02:03:29.200 --> 02:03:31.280 after it gets released in the endosome. 02:03:31.280 --> 02:03:34.480 So there's a very good presentation 02:03:34.480 --> 02:03:37.480 by I believe a Spanish guy with the last name of Segella 02:03:37.480 --> 02:03:39.680 or something where I've seen, 02:03:39.680 --> 02:03:41.840 where he shows very definitively 02:03:41.840 --> 02:03:45.360 that the chemical properties of the lipid nanoparticles, 02:03:45.360 --> 02:03:48.720 the cationic lipids that are used to transport the RNA, 02:03:48.720 --> 02:03:52.200 once they are internalized into the endosome 02:03:52.200 --> 02:03:55.380 and they get into this lower pH of the endosome, 02:03:55.380 --> 02:03:59.760 they change into very corrosive cationic lipids 02:03:59.760 --> 02:04:02.640 that can go around and essentially create 02:04:02.640 --> 02:04:06.880 reactive oxygen species and destroy mitochondrial DNA 02:04:06.880 --> 02:04:08.320 or even if they get into the nucleus, 02:04:08.320 --> 02:04:09.840 they could destroy nuclear DNA. 02:04:10.760 --> 02:04:13.880 This aspect of the delivery mechanism is completely ignored 02:04:13.880 --> 02:04:16.200 because they don't want you to think about them 02:04:16.200 --> 02:04:18.040 after they've delivered their RNA 02:04:18.040 --> 02:04:20.920 when they change their chemical properties quite a bit 02:04:20.920 --> 02:04:23.520 after reaching the pH of the cell internally. 02:04:23.520 --> 02:04:26.720 And so that aspect of this is also something 02:04:26.720 --> 02:04:30.360 that I think there's a concerted effort to hide. 02:04:30.360 --> 02:04:32.640 And so any discussion of relevance 02:04:32.640 --> 02:04:34.320 with regard to the lipid nanoparticles 02:04:34.320 --> 02:04:36.000 often obfuscated by somebody 02:04:36.000 --> 02:04:37.680 who doesn't know what they're talking about. 02:04:37.720 --> 02:04:40.200 And so this, I'm not saying that they're telling 02:04:40.200 --> 02:04:41.960 this silk protein story for that reason, 02:04:41.960 --> 02:04:43.800 but I do think we have to be very careful 02:04:43.800 --> 02:04:47.240 about latching on to these hyper-detailed explanations 02:04:47.240 --> 02:04:48.160 that we don't need. 02:04:48.160 --> 02:04:49.640 Did you put that in the chat? 02:04:51.040 --> 02:04:53.200 Yes, so I will find it in a second, 02:04:53.200 --> 02:04:57.120 but I would really like you to look at the plasmid sequence 02:04:57.120 --> 02:05:01.280 and that reverse open reading frame silk protein. 02:05:01.280 --> 02:05:05.720 And if that fragment can get into people, 02:05:06.720 --> 02:05:10.720 why are they putting spider silk in people? 02:05:10.720 --> 02:05:15.160 And maybe the next time you'll talk with that. 02:05:15.160 --> 02:05:16.480 Well, hopefully I'll be able to tell you 02:05:16.480 --> 02:05:19.120 exactly why it's crazy, but maybe not. 02:05:19.120 --> 02:05:20.560 Okay, yeah, that'd be great. 02:05:22.960 --> 02:05:24.520 Thanks, thank you, Wendy. 02:05:25.440 --> 02:05:27.680 Alberto, I'd love to see you. 02:05:29.040 --> 02:05:30.320 JJ, thank you. 02:05:31.320 --> 02:05:36.320 Two camps seem to be emerging on our side of the aisle 02:05:37.480 --> 02:05:42.480 and the camps are the pro-vax people 02:05:43.440 --> 02:05:46.240 but just not pro-this-vax. 02:05:46.240 --> 02:05:51.240 And then the pure true anti-vax camp. 02:05:51.600 --> 02:05:55.080 And to say that I think this jab is bad, 02:05:55.080 --> 02:05:59.880 I think the whole all the history of jabs were bad. 02:06:00.480 --> 02:06:02.560 And I think that's easy to see 02:06:03.720 --> 02:06:07.680 when we're paying attention to what people are saying 02:06:07.680 --> 02:06:08.760 because I've always said, 02:06:08.760 --> 02:06:13.120 beware of the person that wants to fix the formula 02:06:13.120 --> 02:06:18.120 or improve the formula for the future. 02:06:19.000 --> 02:06:22.760 So thank you for that for kind of slowly, 02:06:22.760 --> 02:06:24.840 this is the layers are getting peeled back 02:06:24.840 --> 02:06:29.480 and that's being revealed which camp people are in. 02:06:30.480 --> 02:06:34.240 The question that I had though was in yesterday's, 02:06:34.240 --> 02:06:36.280 in your yesterday's podcast, 02:06:36.280 --> 02:06:38.480 you kind of went into the details 02:06:38.480 --> 02:06:42.560 about getting laid off for children's health defense 02:06:42.560 --> 02:06:44.640 and I'm sorry to hear that. 02:06:45.800 --> 02:06:50.800 You had said that there was a McCurnan did a podcast 02:06:51.120 --> 02:06:55.240 with two CHD people and because of that, 02:06:55.240 --> 02:06:57.800 you know, you slightly criticized or debated 02:06:57.800 --> 02:07:00.120 or something critiqued it, 02:07:00.120 --> 02:07:02.240 but you got reprimanded for that 02:07:02.240 --> 02:07:05.160 from the children's health defense people behind the scenes 02:07:05.160 --> 02:07:09.040 and somehow that you feel may have caused your 02:07:10.520 --> 02:07:12.320 layoff or something. 02:07:12.320 --> 02:07:15.800 Do you know what the timeframe of that was? 02:07:15.800 --> 02:07:19.480 How do I find that video where McCurnan was? 02:07:19.480 --> 02:07:21.280 I would have to look on my chat. 02:07:21.280 --> 02:07:25.200 So it was a little, it was a little wild before I did it, 02:07:25.200 --> 02:07:30.200 but he had gone on Brian Hooker's podcast, 02:07:30.480 --> 02:07:35.040 doctors and scientists and when he was on that podcast, 02:07:35.040 --> 02:07:36.960 actually Mary Holland joined him. 02:07:36.960 --> 02:07:40.360 And so what I did was watch that podcast in critique, 02:07:40.360 --> 02:07:44.280 what Kevin was saying and I pointed out that I thought 02:07:44.280 --> 02:07:48.520 that maybe Mary and Brian weren't really aware 02:07:48.520 --> 02:07:51.640 of what he was skipping or what he wasn't pointing out 02:07:51.640 --> 02:07:55.040 and how much more there was to talk about. 02:07:55.040 --> 02:07:57.280 And the way that I got reprimanded was that they just 02:07:57.280 --> 02:07:59.400 didn't want me to cover that kind of thing. 02:07:59.400 --> 02:08:01.120 They didn't want me to redo podcasts. 02:08:01.120 --> 02:08:03.680 So it wasn't necessarily that they didn't say 02:08:03.680 --> 02:08:05.560 that Kevin's a good guy and you shouldn't pick on him. 02:08:05.560 --> 02:08:10.560 They didn't want me to critique, to risk portraying 02:08:11.160 --> 02:08:14.840 some kind of, you know, not a uniform front for CHD. 02:08:14.840 --> 02:08:15.720 And I understand that. 02:08:15.720 --> 02:08:18.000 I mean, I was working for them as a staff scientist 02:08:18.000 --> 02:08:20.960 and then to go on my podcast and have the president 02:08:20.960 --> 02:08:23.680 and the chief science officer on there. 02:08:24.440 --> 02:08:27.680 And not necessarily, I don't think I said anything wrong, 02:08:27.680 --> 02:08:30.040 but it would be very easy for someone outside 02:08:30.040 --> 02:08:32.000 of the organization to say, hey, it looks like they don't 02:08:32.000 --> 02:08:33.960 agree on everything, what the hell's going on? 02:08:33.960 --> 02:08:35.640 And so that's what I got reprimanded for. 02:08:35.640 --> 02:08:38.680 I didn't want to say that Kevin was involved, 02:08:38.680 --> 02:08:42.600 but it was how that started, let's say it like that. 02:08:42.600 --> 02:08:46.280 Why don't put anybody on a pedestal 02:08:46.280 --> 02:08:49.400 and that goes for Bobby Kennedy. 02:08:49.400 --> 02:08:51.000 I know you no longer work for him. 02:08:51.080 --> 02:08:55.120 And hey, I might still vote for Bobby, you know, 02:08:55.120 --> 02:08:57.080 for the most part, I mean, I like him. 02:08:57.080 --> 02:09:00.800 But I also know that he knows that bears doesn't publish 02:09:00.800 --> 02:09:02.720 all legitimate reports received. 02:09:02.720 --> 02:09:06.440 And then I wonder like, why aren't you really 02:09:06.440 --> 02:09:08.680 clamping down on that one? 02:09:08.680 --> 02:09:13.520 But needless to say, I really appreciate that you, 02:09:13.520 --> 02:09:16.880 your search for the truth and, you know, 02:09:16.880 --> 02:09:21.480 not being afraid to investigate under every rock. 02:09:21.480 --> 02:09:22.600 I appreciate you, JJ. 02:09:22.600 --> 02:09:23.560 Thank you so much. 02:09:23.560 --> 02:09:24.800 You're very welcome, Albert. 02:09:24.800 --> 02:09:26.160 Thank you. 02:09:26.160 --> 02:09:27.000 Thank you, Albert. 02:09:27.000 --> 02:09:29.480 Now everybody, we've got an interesting breaking story 02:09:29.480 --> 02:09:33.480 relevant to what we're talking about. 02:09:33.480 --> 02:09:34.480 And this just came in. 02:09:34.480 --> 02:09:39.760 So JJ, very relevant to your comment on lawyers. 02:09:39.760 --> 02:09:41.280 And here it is. 02:09:41.280 --> 02:09:44.480 Justin Trudeau fails as justice prevails. 02:09:44.480 --> 02:09:47.680 Federal court and candidate declares Prime Minister Trudeau 02:09:47.680 --> 02:09:49.520 exit outside of his legal authority 02:09:49.520 --> 02:09:51.560 when he took unreasonable constitutional measures 02:09:51.560 --> 02:09:54.240 against the Canadian truckers. 02:09:54.240 --> 02:09:57.200 So federal court in Canada has just 02:09:57.200 --> 02:09:58.600 ruled in favour of applicants who 02:09:58.600 --> 02:10:00.320 filed an application against Trudeau 02:10:00.320 --> 02:10:04.120 for unreasonably and unconstitutional measures. 02:10:04.120 --> 02:10:06.960 So that's one of many cases that are happening. 02:10:06.960 --> 02:10:10.800 And it's quite possible, JJ, that judge who's 02:10:10.800 --> 02:10:13.720 shown some bravery at last. 02:10:13.720 --> 02:10:16.600 His grandchildren may well have died suddenly. 02:10:16.600 --> 02:10:17.400 You never know. 02:10:17.400 --> 02:10:19.240 But anyway, I just bring everyone's attention 02:10:19.240 --> 02:10:20.400 and I want to sidetrack it. 02:10:20.400 --> 02:10:22.560 But there are, as Warner Mendenhall's 02:10:22.560 --> 02:10:25.800 going to tell us in February, thousands, 02:10:25.800 --> 02:10:29.200 hundreds of thousands of cases in the pipeline. 02:10:29.200 --> 02:10:31.320 So it's not true to say that they're not happening. 02:10:31.320 --> 02:10:36.320 But it's very true to say that most big law firms do not 02:10:36.320 --> 02:10:39.040 want to attack the system because they get 02:10:39.040 --> 02:10:41.400 the bulk of their income from the system. 02:10:41.400 --> 02:10:45.360 So that's our challenge. 02:10:45.360 --> 02:10:47.960 Albert, thank you for that. 02:10:47.960 --> 02:10:48.460 Anders. 02:10:52.880 --> 02:10:53.760 Yes, hello. 02:10:53.760 --> 02:10:54.560 Thank you, JJ. 02:10:54.560 --> 02:10:58.840 It was wonderful to hear your presentation. 02:10:58.840 --> 02:11:02.320 I was fooled like a lot of people 02:11:02.320 --> 02:11:05.360 to believe in the virus theory. 02:11:05.360 --> 02:11:08.720 I must say that after last year's 02:11:08.720 --> 02:11:14.800 intense investigations, I don't find any reason anymore 02:11:14.800 --> 02:11:17.840 to believe in the virus theory. 02:11:17.840 --> 02:11:22.120 And that it is a big risk for a lot of people 02:11:22.120 --> 02:11:29.880 who are confused in that theory that this is correct science 02:11:29.880 --> 02:11:35.960 to present all of these modeling out of computer science 02:11:36.040 --> 02:11:42.680 that there is so and so genetic, let's say, footprints 02:11:42.680 --> 02:11:43.880 or what you claim. 02:11:43.880 --> 02:11:47.400 I think we need to go back to real science 02:11:47.400 --> 02:11:53.360 and to go long back to the philosophical discussion, which 02:11:53.360 --> 02:11:56.080 were going on for more than 100 years ago, 02:11:56.080 --> 02:12:00.320 about whether Lewis Pasteur was right or not. 02:12:00.320 --> 02:12:05.880 But that is a mean comment that is connected to my own research. 02:12:05.880 --> 02:12:09.440 Which I would say conclusively come 02:12:09.440 --> 02:12:17.160 to the final conclusion that the COVID so-called virus of 2020 02:12:17.160 --> 02:12:19.560 was an invention and not the fact. 02:12:19.560 --> 02:12:25.120 And there was mortality across the Western countries. 02:12:25.120 --> 02:12:29.720 But that mortality was strictly connected to protocols 02:12:29.720 --> 02:12:32.440 and to the launch of 5G. 02:12:32.440 --> 02:12:34.800 So that is my general comment to it. 02:12:34.800 --> 02:12:40.120 But let's say the question is, how can you all or those 02:12:40.120 --> 02:12:45.800 who continue this, continue the virus theory against, 02:12:45.800 --> 02:12:49.720 let's say, the postulates or Robert Koch and all the lack 02:12:49.720 --> 02:12:53.960 of evidence that there is such a thing like a virus? 02:12:53.960 --> 02:12:56.360 That is my question. 02:12:56.360 --> 02:12:59.040 I would argue that there is plenty of evidence 02:12:59.040 --> 02:13:03.720 in the literature that cells excrete small vesicles 02:13:03.720 --> 02:13:07.040 with RNA and DNA in them. 02:13:07.040 --> 02:13:08.200 I'm dispute. 02:13:08.200 --> 02:13:08.720 OK. 02:13:08.720 --> 02:13:12.960 And so I think that my main argument 02:13:12.960 --> 02:13:16.960 is that they can make RNA and they can make a lot of it. 02:13:16.960 --> 02:13:19.960 They can make DNA and they can make a lot of it. 02:13:19.960 --> 02:13:23.200 And that means that some of the experiments 02:13:23.200 --> 02:13:25.800 that they do in the literature are definitely possible. 02:13:25.800 --> 02:13:28.600 They can make enough DNA to put on a cell culture. 02:13:28.600 --> 02:13:31.680 And then the cell culture will so psychopathic effects 02:13:31.680 --> 02:13:33.600 and try to copy the DNA. 02:13:33.600 --> 02:13:37.440 And then afterward, there might be more DNA or more RNA, 02:13:37.440 --> 02:13:39.560 excuse me, than when you put it in the first time. 02:13:39.560 --> 02:13:44.480 But it won't be the predicted amount and assortment of RNA 02:13:44.480 --> 02:13:46.720 that the cartoon provides for. 02:13:46.720 --> 02:13:49.440 And in fact, they don't need it to because they use 02:13:49.440 --> 02:13:52.520 psychopathic effects to show the presence of a virus. 02:13:52.520 --> 02:13:54.720 But they never then go farther than that. 02:13:54.720 --> 02:13:57.200 And so I would totally agree with you 02:13:57.200 --> 02:14:00.280 that viruses are likely a phenomenon that 02:14:00.280 --> 02:14:04.160 have been exaggerated both in fidelity and in significance. 02:14:04.160 --> 02:14:06.840 But I would also argue that in place of that, 02:14:06.840 --> 02:14:10.600 there are technologies that are sufficiently advanced 02:14:10.600 --> 02:14:15.800 so that a DNA molecule or sequence could be planted anywhere 02:14:15.800 --> 02:14:18.880 and that RNA could be used to transfect someone 02:14:18.880 --> 02:14:21.840 and make their cells express proteins. 02:14:21.840 --> 02:14:24.160 And if that's the truth, which I'm sure it is, 02:14:24.160 --> 02:14:27.520 because I've used these transfection agents in mice 02:14:27.520 --> 02:14:31.680 when I was an academician, a biologist in medical schools, 02:14:31.680 --> 02:14:34.800 I used to do these experiments where I transfected mice. 02:14:34.800 --> 02:14:38.880 And so I am confident that if they wanted to express 02:14:38.880 --> 02:14:41.400 a protein in your lungs, they could do it. 02:14:41.400 --> 02:14:44.800 If they wanted to express a protein in your skin, 02:14:44.800 --> 02:14:45.640 they could do it. 02:14:45.640 --> 02:14:48.120 And I'm sure that they could express a protein in your gut 02:14:48.120 --> 02:14:49.400 if they wanted to do it. 02:14:49.400 --> 02:14:52.640 And I'm sure that if they put DNA into a sewer, 02:14:52.640 --> 02:14:55.240 they could use PCR to tell you they found it. 02:14:55.400 --> 02:14:58.720 And so all of these very standard methodologies 02:14:58.720 --> 02:15:03.920 could be used to create the molecular biological signal 02:15:03.920 --> 02:15:06.960 that someone with a high level of sophistication, 02:15:06.960 --> 02:15:10.000 but also a very high level of specialization 02:15:10.000 --> 02:15:11.560 would never be able to tell the difference 02:15:11.560 --> 02:15:13.440 between BS and truth. 02:15:13.440 --> 02:15:14.760 And that is where we are. 02:15:14.760 --> 02:15:17.560 And I do think that it's been going on for a long time, 02:15:17.560 --> 02:15:20.960 probably since the AIDS virus was first characterized 02:15:20.960 --> 02:15:22.480 and said to be in circulation. 02:15:22.520 --> 02:15:25.240 And we're probably dealing with a scenario 02:15:25.240 --> 02:15:29.120 where when they started to grow things in cell culture 02:15:29.120 --> 02:15:31.320 and then inject them into people, 02:15:31.320 --> 02:15:36.240 there were problems because they couldn't detect 02:15:36.240 --> 02:15:38.480 the kind of immune signals that were present 02:15:38.480 --> 02:15:40.080 in these cell cultures. 02:15:40.080 --> 02:15:42.560 And if there are immune signals that are 02:15:42.560 --> 02:15:45.320 at the same size scale as viruses, 02:15:45.320 --> 02:15:49.760 then it would be very easy for a controlled discussion 02:15:49.760 --> 02:15:53.800 of this biology to result in a horrible misinterpretation 02:15:53.800 --> 02:15:57.480 of a signal that is almost exclusively endogenous 02:15:57.480 --> 02:15:59.880 as opposed to being exclusively pathogenic, 02:15:59.880 --> 02:16:02.080 which is what they would like us to believe. 02:16:04.160 --> 02:16:05.400 Is that kind of an answer? 02:16:05.400 --> 02:16:06.240 Yeah? 02:16:07.400 --> 02:16:08.240 Thank you. 02:16:08.240 --> 02:16:09.400 Thank you, Anders. 02:16:09.400 --> 02:16:10.360 Wolfgang, welcome. 02:16:10.360 --> 02:16:12.120 Loving to see you for those of you 02:16:12.120 --> 02:16:13.600 who don't know who he is, Stephen, 02:16:13.600 --> 02:16:16.880 has organized Wolfgang to speak just twice. 02:16:16.880 --> 02:16:20.080 So far, I think, Wolfgang, twice or three times? 02:16:20.080 --> 02:16:21.080 Twice. 02:16:21.080 --> 02:16:22.280 Twice. Welcome. 02:16:22.280 --> 02:16:23.760 Great to see you. 02:16:23.760 --> 02:16:25.120 Over to you. 02:16:25.120 --> 02:16:30.320 I came explicitly because I heard JJ some days ago 02:16:30.320 --> 02:16:32.600 in the coronavirus, and I was very fascinated 02:16:32.600 --> 02:16:35.920 about his knowledge and his interpretation 02:16:35.920 --> 02:16:38.640 of what he observed in the last years. 02:16:38.640 --> 02:16:42.080 And I think I'm not a specialist 02:16:42.080 --> 02:16:45.320 from molecular biology, but I observed 02:16:45.320 --> 02:16:48.960 the whole business of vaccination industry for many years 02:16:48.960 --> 02:16:52.080 as it was of a public health institution. 02:16:52.080 --> 02:16:56.680 And when in politics, too, about the patent laws 02:16:56.680 --> 02:17:00.600 and all this around how they tried to have formulas 02:17:00.600 --> 02:17:05.320 where they could have claims to work with, to earn money with, 02:17:05.320 --> 02:17:07.800 and they had their claims not only in the land, 02:17:07.800 --> 02:17:10.040 they had them also in biology. 02:17:10.040 --> 02:17:12.560 And they tried to shape their claims there 02:17:12.560 --> 02:17:16.600 and to give them, give their claims certain meaning 02:17:16.600 --> 02:17:19.000 that they could produce because you could only get a patent 02:17:19.000 --> 02:17:20.960 when you can use it for certain techniques 02:17:20.960 --> 02:17:22.440 you have to describe. 02:17:22.440 --> 02:17:27.760 So this is working out such theories 02:17:27.760 --> 02:17:30.000 that there are some molecular molecules. 02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:33.680 You could do something against with the certain technology. 02:17:33.680 --> 02:17:38.880 This is the basis of getting a patent and earning money with it. 02:17:38.880 --> 02:17:42.440 And I think it was, we are trapped for many, many years. 02:17:42.440 --> 02:17:48.240 I think much wrong, I think it started in the 50s or 60s already 02:17:48.240 --> 02:17:52.240 when they were trying out the first vaccinations, 02:17:52.240 --> 02:17:57.760 when they had the idea, the pharmaceutical industry got the idea, 02:17:57.760 --> 02:18:03.120 that it's too little business only to deal with ill people. 02:18:03.120 --> 02:18:05.880 They wanted to sell something to healthy people. 02:18:05.880 --> 02:18:08.240 The market is much, much, much bigger. 02:18:08.240 --> 02:18:13.120 And this was a genius idea to tell people we can do something 02:18:13.120 --> 02:18:15.120 with your immune system. 02:18:15.120 --> 02:18:20.080 And I think this was a fantastic idea for them. 02:18:20.080 --> 02:18:22.560 And they developed it more and more. 02:18:22.560 --> 02:18:25.680 And they went more and more in the granular fair. 02:18:25.680 --> 02:18:29.120 They went to molecules and they went into the immune system. 02:18:29.120 --> 02:18:35.040 They invented stories about good immune system, bad immune system, 02:18:35.040 --> 02:18:38.960 all such things, which have nothing to do with biology, 02:18:38.960 --> 02:18:41.120 which we can never understand. 02:18:41.120 --> 02:18:45.560 And JJ, you said it last time it was great, I was fascinated. 02:18:45.560 --> 02:18:53.760 They tried to just to describe the irreducible complexity of life. 02:18:53.760 --> 02:18:56.240 And they picked out something of it. 02:18:56.240 --> 02:19:00.400 And they made narratives around it. 02:19:00.400 --> 02:19:04.000 And they had to sell their products and to get their patents. 02:19:04.000 --> 02:19:08.040 And now they, I think it's just trying 02:19:08.040 --> 02:19:11.200 to open a new sphere of business. 02:19:11.200 --> 02:19:15.240 And they can only do it with a war of speed methodology. 02:19:15.240 --> 02:19:19.360 Because normally, we should need some time 02:19:19.360 --> 02:19:21.520 to find out whether people get healthier or not, 02:19:21.520 --> 02:19:23.360 or whether they're really protected or not, 02:19:23.360 --> 02:19:25.120 have a control group or whatever. 02:19:25.120 --> 02:19:27.680 It's a very, very long process. 02:19:27.680 --> 02:19:29.920 And then when you find out such things, 02:19:29.920 --> 02:19:32.440 whether something is working or not, 02:19:32.440 --> 02:19:34.800 it's only statistical results. 02:19:34.800 --> 02:19:36.880 You don't know what happens on a certain person, 02:19:36.880 --> 02:19:40.360 because this is the irreducible complexity of life 02:19:40.360 --> 02:19:42.080 that we are all different. 02:19:42.080 --> 02:19:47.680 And so I think this business, what I observed in the last year, 02:19:47.680 --> 02:19:50.680 is for my experience now, it is just 02:19:50.680 --> 02:19:57.040 that I don't advise people anymore to take any vaccine. 02:19:57.040 --> 02:19:58.960 And it goes much further. 02:19:58.960 --> 02:20:02.280 Observed also the clinical studies they did. 02:20:02.280 --> 02:20:04.680 And above normal some sort of drugs 02:20:04.680 --> 02:20:07.120 and how they constructed their narratives there. 02:20:07.120 --> 02:20:09.840 They are constructing narratives everywhere. 02:20:09.840 --> 02:20:13.840 And I think if we want to change this, 02:20:13.840 --> 02:20:19.640 one very effective thing would be just to forbid patents 02:20:19.640 --> 02:20:22.800 on such things, forbid patents on living, 02:20:22.800 --> 02:20:26.160 on everything that has to do with life, 02:20:26.160 --> 02:20:30.680 and to forbid patents for drugs. 02:20:30.680 --> 02:20:34.160 And I think this will solve a lot of problems. 02:20:34.160 --> 02:20:36.640 And I tried to work for it in politics. 02:20:36.640 --> 02:20:41.160 And I experienced that there was certainly people coming to me 02:20:41.160 --> 02:20:44.640 and the lobby was coming, and they were really terrified 02:20:44.640 --> 02:20:49.320 when I started to make such an initiative. 02:20:49.320 --> 02:20:52.360 So I felt that there was something very important 02:20:52.360 --> 02:20:53.800 with the patent right. 02:20:53.800 --> 02:20:55.360 So this is just what I want to say, 02:20:55.360 --> 02:20:58.200 and I want to thank you very much, 02:20:58.200 --> 02:21:03.960 because you're much more strict in your thoughts, 02:21:03.960 --> 02:21:08.400 and you're much more, I got lost sometimes, 02:21:08.400 --> 02:21:12.920 I got lost at my time, got lost in molecules, too. 02:21:12.920 --> 02:21:16.520 And I was distracted very often, too. 02:21:16.520 --> 02:21:19.120 And they made it very well, but the more they did it, 02:21:19.120 --> 02:21:23.800 and the more we find out that, oh, again, you were trapped, 02:21:23.800 --> 02:21:27.360 again, you were mistreated, or you were cheated. 02:21:27.360 --> 02:21:31.320 And so we learn that we are cheated. 02:21:31.320 --> 02:21:34.200 And this is a very interesting process, 02:21:34.200 --> 02:21:37.960 which made perhaps lead to some improvement 02:21:37.960 --> 02:21:42.560 in living together in this inreducible society, 02:21:42.560 --> 02:21:44.280 complex society. 02:21:44.280 --> 02:21:45.200 Thank you very much. 02:21:45.200 --> 02:21:46.320 I think it's a great comment. 02:21:46.320 --> 02:21:47.760 I just want to follow up by saying 02:21:47.760 --> 02:21:49.040 you might not be aware of it, 02:21:49.040 --> 02:21:51.720 but in the United States right before the pandemic, 02:21:51.720 --> 02:21:54.440 there was a Supreme Court decision, 02:21:54.440 --> 02:21:58.960 which basically decided that all intellectual property 02:21:58.960 --> 02:22:03.520 of monoclonal antibodies was based on bad science. 02:22:03.520 --> 02:22:07.440 And they actually decided to say 02:22:07.440 --> 02:22:09.600 that the intellectual property of antibodies 02:22:09.600 --> 02:22:13.200 was based on a formula that had been repeated so often 02:22:13.200 --> 02:22:15.040 that it had no relevance anymore. 02:22:15.040 --> 02:22:16.480 And one of the things they talked about 02:22:16.480 --> 02:22:19.280 was that the claim of monoclonal antibodies 02:22:19.280 --> 02:22:21.080 is that it's a single molecule. 02:22:21.080 --> 02:22:24.280 When in reality, it's not a single molecule at all, 02:22:24.280 --> 02:22:25.880 and depending on which animal produces, 02:22:25.880 --> 02:22:30.080 it's going to be as many variations as possible, 02:22:30.080 --> 02:22:31.800 the kinds of motifs that are created. 02:22:31.800 --> 02:22:35.760 And so they portrayed a level of fidelity in creation 02:22:35.760 --> 02:22:39.400 that wasn't there, and the Supreme Court basically 02:22:39.400 --> 02:22:43.440 took a whole field of intellectual property 02:22:43.440 --> 02:22:46.960 that was the basis for a lot of pharmaceutical value, 02:22:46.960 --> 02:22:48.960 pharmaceutical company value, 02:22:48.960 --> 02:22:52.280 and made it very shaky ground right before the pandemic 02:22:52.280 --> 02:22:55.840 as to whether or not you would even be able to patent 02:22:55.840 --> 02:22:58.040 an antibody in the traditional manner. 02:22:58.040 --> 02:22:59.640 And so one of the things, 02:22:59.640 --> 02:23:01.000 this was actually all discovered 02:23:01.000 --> 02:23:04.800 by a friend of mine, Mark Koolack, of a huge atomic life 02:23:04.800 --> 02:23:07.640 who just lost his YouTube channel yesterday 02:23:07.640 --> 02:23:08.960 for a video that he put up. 02:23:08.960 --> 02:23:11.720 But he found this antibody paradox 02:23:11.720 --> 02:23:15.600 being covered by a Yale Law School review 02:23:15.600 --> 02:23:17.440 that was then several months later, 02:23:17.440 --> 02:23:20.160 cited by the Supreme Court as the evidence 02:23:20.160 --> 02:23:23.040 for the biology of monoclonal antibodies 02:23:23.040 --> 02:23:25.160 not supporting their general patents. 02:23:25.160 --> 02:23:27.600 So this was a huge change that occurred 02:23:27.600 --> 02:23:30.880 right before the pandemic, seemingly very convenient 02:23:30.880 --> 02:23:33.760 so that no pharmaceutical companies would invest 02:23:33.760 --> 02:23:35.440 in monoclonal antibodies, 02:23:35.440 --> 02:23:38.240 but instead would convert to this new... 02:23:38.240 --> 02:23:40.640 No, there are sites on first, though. 02:23:40.640 --> 02:23:44.200 I don't know whether you know, a physics professor, 02:23:44.200 --> 02:23:47.560 and he was telling when there are problems, 02:23:47.560 --> 02:23:52.200 we have a narrative and we deduct from this narrative 02:23:52.200 --> 02:23:53.720 everything we do. 02:23:53.720 --> 02:23:55.400 We take some new narrative 02:23:55.400 --> 02:23:58.440 and we make it the basis of all the things we do. 02:23:58.440 --> 02:24:00.200 And then we don't, when we don't go, 02:24:00.200 --> 02:24:04.200 when we cannot go further, we invent particles. 02:24:04.200 --> 02:24:06.040 And we discuss about the particles 02:24:06.040 --> 02:24:08.720 and what we have learned all about the particles 02:24:08.720 --> 02:24:12.240 and we can't go further, we invent particles of particles. 02:24:12.240 --> 02:24:15.680 And like this, it goes on until there is a new narrative. 02:24:15.680 --> 02:24:18.120 And I think we are at the level now 02:24:18.120 --> 02:24:19.800 that there will be a new narrative. 02:24:19.800 --> 02:24:21.200 And I hope so, you started it. 02:24:21.200 --> 02:24:22.200 Thank you very much. 02:24:23.600 --> 02:24:25.000 Okay, thank you Wolfgang. 02:24:25.000 --> 02:24:27.160 Okay, Stephen, we'll go for another 15 minutes. 02:24:27.160 --> 02:24:28.000 We've got two questions 02:24:28.000 --> 02:24:29.960 and there's Stephen for closing questions. 02:24:29.960 --> 02:24:31.600 We'll go for two and three quarter hours today. 02:24:31.600 --> 02:24:33.600 JJ, are you okay for another 15 minutes? 02:24:33.600 --> 02:24:34.600 I can probably do it. 02:24:35.560 --> 02:24:36.760 If I pass out... 02:24:36.760 --> 02:24:37.600 Quick on the quick... 02:24:37.600 --> 02:24:39.760 If I fall over, you know, then it's what happens. 02:24:39.760 --> 02:24:41.280 Yeah, correct. 02:24:41.280 --> 02:24:42.640 Tom and Meicher and then Stephen 02:24:42.640 --> 02:24:44.680 and we'll finish the two and three quarters. 02:24:44.680 --> 02:24:45.520 Gotcha. 02:24:47.200 --> 02:24:48.160 Can you hear me okay? 02:24:48.160 --> 02:24:50.040 I can, wow, nice, Meic. 02:24:50.040 --> 02:24:51.280 Okay. 02:24:51.280 --> 02:24:52.880 Oh, okay. 02:24:52.880 --> 02:24:54.760 Yeah, so... 02:24:54.760 --> 02:24:56.480 Let's see if I got my question. 02:24:56.480 --> 02:24:58.000 Are you from Wisconsin? 02:24:58.000 --> 02:25:00.040 Does that say you're a Wisconsin guy? 02:25:01.080 --> 02:25:02.720 Yeah, yeah, I am. 02:25:02.720 --> 02:25:04.680 I grew up in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin. 02:25:04.680 --> 02:25:06.520 That's where I was born. 02:25:06.520 --> 02:25:08.400 Right, and I was on the Mississippi 02:25:08.400 --> 02:25:10.520 when I grew up in La Crosse. 02:25:10.520 --> 02:25:11.360 Okay, nice. 02:25:11.360 --> 02:25:13.760 Now, early Michigan. 02:25:13.760 --> 02:25:17.240 Yeah, so I had asked you this before 02:25:17.240 --> 02:25:19.960 and it's kind of a minor question, 02:25:19.960 --> 02:25:22.280 but this lateral... 02:25:22.280 --> 02:25:25.720 These grocery store tests that are in cardboard boxes. 02:25:25.720 --> 02:25:26.560 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 02:25:26.560 --> 02:25:27.640 Are those... 02:25:27.640 --> 02:25:29.680 Yeah, are those lateral flow? 02:25:29.680 --> 02:25:32.880 And, well, yeah, I have, I have, I guess, 02:25:32.880 --> 02:25:35.360 three or four questions, but that's a quick, easy one. 02:25:35.360 --> 02:25:38.240 Are those lateral, I hope, are lateral flow 02:25:38.240 --> 02:25:42.760 and you talk about lateral flow fraud. 02:25:42.840 --> 02:25:44.440 So should I do all the questions? 02:25:44.440 --> 02:25:46.680 Should we do one by one or what's the best way? 02:25:46.680 --> 02:25:47.840 No, I mean, it's fine. 02:25:47.840 --> 02:25:48.680 You can just say it. 02:25:48.680 --> 02:25:50.080 I know what you're asking about now. 02:25:50.080 --> 02:25:52.920 And I'm limited in my... 02:25:52.920 --> 02:25:55.080 I haven't looked at the specifics 02:25:55.080 --> 02:25:57.240 of each of these products. 02:25:58.120 --> 02:25:59.720 There's a lot of them. 02:25:59.720 --> 02:26:02.080 And so what antibodies are present in them 02:26:02.080 --> 02:26:05.640 and what they're specific for is specific for each product. 02:26:05.640 --> 02:26:07.360 So it's tricky to... 02:26:08.920 --> 02:26:11.840 It's pretty tricky to discern 02:26:11.840 --> 02:26:15.160 which of them would be, let's say, more reliable 02:26:15.160 --> 02:26:16.920 or less reliable for the indication 02:26:16.920 --> 02:26:18.240 of the presence of these proteins. 02:26:18.240 --> 02:26:19.240 So that's tricky, but go ahead. 02:26:19.240 --> 02:26:20.080 Just ask. 02:26:21.200 --> 02:26:25.440 Oh, so I assume, do they create an antibody? 02:26:25.440 --> 02:26:29.000 Are they detecting antibodies in general? 02:26:29.000 --> 02:26:30.400 They're not detecting antibodies 02:26:30.400 --> 02:26:31.400 in a lateral flow test. 02:26:31.400 --> 02:26:32.960 I think you use your saliva, right? 02:26:32.960 --> 02:26:35.960 And so they're detecting spike protein or N protein 02:26:35.960 --> 02:26:38.240 and it's antibodies to those proteins 02:26:38.280 --> 02:26:41.800 that then move and then get bound 02:26:41.800 --> 02:26:44.400 to a second protein that changes color. 02:26:44.400 --> 02:26:46.520 And if I'm wrong about this, 02:26:46.520 --> 02:26:50.280 then please don't let that undermine the rest of my biology 02:26:50.280 --> 02:26:51.920 that I taught because lateral flow tests 02:26:51.920 --> 02:26:54.720 are kind of tricky with the antibody problem 02:26:54.720 --> 02:26:56.720 because the specificity is... 02:26:56.720 --> 02:27:00.120 So yeah, I love your train thing and everything, 02:27:00.120 --> 02:27:02.560 but this is what I'm up against 02:27:02.560 --> 02:27:05.080 with a lot of people on the other side. 02:27:05.080 --> 02:27:07.760 It's like, oh, I tested positive for COVID again. 02:27:08.880 --> 02:27:12.080 This is like that eighth time I've had COVID, et cetera, 02:27:12.080 --> 02:27:14.360 and it's based on those tests, 02:27:14.360 --> 02:27:15.920 but you don't need to respond to that. 02:27:15.920 --> 02:27:19.240 So this is like a teaching kind of question. 02:27:19.240 --> 02:27:22.680 It exposes all kinds of confusion that I have. 02:27:24.160 --> 02:27:26.040 And let's see. 02:27:26.040 --> 02:27:31.040 So it's the idea of, okay, the virus has a genome, 02:27:31.040 --> 02:27:36.040 and is that represented one-to-one by the mRNA 02:27:38.040 --> 02:27:41.440 and within that genome, how many genes are in it? 02:27:41.440 --> 02:27:44.560 And is that another way of asking for how many proteins 02:27:44.560 --> 02:27:46.120 does it code for? 02:27:48.280 --> 02:27:49.440 And then at the higher level, 02:27:49.440 --> 02:27:52.280 as you're kind of going up to hierarchy, 02:27:52.280 --> 02:27:55.280 there's a lot of different types of genes 02:27:55.280 --> 02:27:57.840 that are going up to the higher level. 02:27:57.840 --> 02:28:00.160 So you're kind of going up to hierarchy. 02:28:02.080 --> 02:28:05.840 You've got chromosomes, you've got the cell nucleus, 02:28:05.840 --> 02:28:08.400 and then you have the entire human genome. 02:28:08.400 --> 02:28:11.840 Could you kind of quickly touch on those concepts? 02:28:12.760 --> 02:28:14.840 Sure, so in a viral genome, 02:28:14.840 --> 02:28:18.640 you expect a virus to have in a coronavirus 30-odd proteins 02:28:18.640 --> 02:28:20.880 that are encoded in a single genome, 02:28:20.880 --> 02:28:23.520 and the genome would be one long RNA. 02:28:23.520 --> 02:28:24.360 That's the idea. 02:28:24.360 --> 02:28:27.600 And our cellular genomes is one long, 02:28:27.600 --> 02:28:32.200 double-stranded DNA molecule in theory for each chromosome. 02:28:32.200 --> 02:28:34.280 And so our genome is just gigantic, 02:28:34.280 --> 02:28:36.040 and instead of having n proteins, 02:28:36.040 --> 02:28:39.480 we have our DNA organized into chromosomes 02:28:39.480 --> 02:28:43.160 that is really DNA around histones and other proteins. 02:28:44.160 --> 02:28:49.160 But a viral genome is supposed to contain all of the proteins 02:28:49.240 --> 02:28:53.200 that are necessary so that when that RNA goes into the cell, 02:28:53.200 --> 02:28:56.160 remember that if it's a positive strand RNA, 02:28:56.160 --> 02:28:58.200 then it can go right through the ribosome. 02:28:58.200 --> 02:28:59.600 If it's a negative strand RNA, 02:28:59.600 --> 02:29:02.120 it needs to be turned into a positive strand RNA 02:29:02.120 --> 02:29:04.520 before it can be converted into protein. 02:29:04.520 --> 02:29:07.840 So for negative strand viruses like flu and measles, 02:29:07.840 --> 02:29:11.160 there has to be not only a genome in the viral, 02:29:11.160 --> 02:29:14.160 but there also has to be an enzyme set 02:29:14.160 --> 02:29:16.920 that can copy the negative strand RNA 02:29:16.920 --> 02:29:20.600 into a positive strand one before flu proteins can be made. 02:29:20.640 --> 02:29:23.920 Before measles protein and viruses can be made. 02:29:23.920 --> 02:29:26.400 So the coronavirus is an opposite kind of thing 02:29:26.400 --> 02:29:28.360 because it's positive stranded. 02:29:28.360 --> 02:29:31.440 So the first thing it has to do is go into your cells 02:29:31.440 --> 02:29:34.160 and translate itself into protein 02:29:34.160 --> 02:29:35.960 so that the proteins that are present 02:29:35.960 --> 02:29:39.560 that copy it from positive to positive are there. 02:29:39.560 --> 02:29:43.380 So that's the trick that I wonder if you caught it, 02:29:43.380 --> 02:29:46.000 but it's something that I find very frustrating 02:29:46.000 --> 02:29:51.000 about the current model of the way that these viruses replicate, 02:29:52.880 --> 02:29:54.320 and it's part of that bothers me, 02:29:54.320 --> 02:29:57.000 I gotta find the right slide here, apologize for this, 02:29:58.800 --> 02:30:02.240 is that in this model, 02:30:03.400 --> 02:30:05.960 oops, that should be here, and then yeah, 02:30:05.960 --> 02:30:10.240 in this model, this is the diagram 02:30:10.240 --> 02:30:12.280 where they show a coronavirus replicating, 02:30:12.280 --> 02:30:14.080 the thing that has to happen, right? 02:30:14.080 --> 02:30:17.360 This is a positive strand RNA genome 02:30:17.360 --> 02:30:19.680 which can go right through the ribosome, 02:30:19.680 --> 02:30:24.320 but you want a positive strand RNA in your viruses 02:30:24.320 --> 02:30:25.840 that go out of the cell. 02:30:26.760 --> 02:30:31.680 So you might presume that the positive strand RNA 02:30:31.680 --> 02:30:34.240 has to be translated to a negative strand RNA 02:30:34.240 --> 02:30:36.520 and then the negative strand RNA gets transbagged 02:30:36.520 --> 02:30:38.240 back to a positive strand RNA 02:30:38.240 --> 02:30:41.840 because that's how these double stranded molecules are copied, right? 02:30:42.720 --> 02:30:45.640 They rely on the mirror image in order to make the copy, 02:30:45.640 --> 02:30:47.520 but this is a single strand RNA, 02:30:47.520 --> 02:30:48.560 so you don't have that. 02:30:48.560 --> 02:30:51.360 And interestingly, in this diagram, 02:30:51.360 --> 02:30:54.160 it shows, if you can see my arrow, 02:30:54.160 --> 02:30:58.000 it shows that the RNA dependent RNA polymerase 02:30:58.000 --> 02:31:01.560 is translating a positive genomic RNA 02:31:01.560 --> 02:31:04.080 into another positive genomic RNA. 02:31:05.640 --> 02:31:08.560 I can't find a single paper that explains how that happens 02:31:08.560 --> 02:31:10.280 or explains why that's so special 02:31:10.280 --> 02:31:14.360 because the flu virus needs to change its RNA 02:31:14.360 --> 02:31:16.640 in from negative to positive 02:31:16.640 --> 02:31:19.520 and then the positive needs to be copied back into a negative 02:31:19.520 --> 02:31:23.720 and packaged in with the enzymes required to be a full virus. 02:31:23.720 --> 02:31:24.920 So the flu virus... 02:31:24.920 --> 02:31:29.200 Can I ask you, can I ask you, 02:31:29.200 --> 02:31:31.720 do you have any examples of positive... 02:31:31.720 --> 02:31:33.800 No, Tom, Tom, Tom, this is... 02:31:33.800 --> 02:31:37.960 Oh, okay, no, then I'm gonna go to my last question, 02:31:37.960 --> 02:31:40.240 which is kind of a bombshell thing. 02:31:40.240 --> 02:31:44.720 I had a friend in this group connect me with another friend 02:31:44.720 --> 02:31:49.520 who is that you've got an adversary out there 02:31:49.520 --> 02:31:51.080 and I just... 02:31:51.080 --> 02:31:54.480 I've only watched like three hours of him 02:31:54.480 --> 02:31:57.920 and could you comment on Kevin McCarran? 02:31:57.920 --> 02:31:59.440 Oh, sure. 02:31:59.440 --> 02:32:03.080 Kevin McCarran is a guy who streamed with me 02:32:04.080 --> 02:32:07.760 starting in the first week of March 02:32:07.760 --> 02:32:11.360 and we did a stream of about five hours long 02:32:11.360 --> 02:32:13.520 every weekend for five weeks in a row 02:32:13.520 --> 02:32:16.400 with another guy by the name of Paul Catrell, 02:32:16.400 --> 02:32:18.320 who is a completely fake doctor 02:32:18.320 --> 02:32:20.160 who was promoted by George Webb 02:32:20.160 --> 02:32:23.080 for a very long time at the beginning of the pandemic. 02:32:23.080 --> 02:32:27.080 And Kevin McCarran is a guy who when I first met him 02:32:27.080 --> 02:32:29.840 was very convinced that over a billion people would die 02:32:29.840 --> 02:32:32.120 and that everybody should be at home making masks 02:32:32.120 --> 02:32:35.360 and that we should stay home for 60 days instead of 20. 02:32:35.360 --> 02:32:37.840 He was also very convinced that the spike protein 02:32:37.840 --> 02:32:40.800 was gained a function and that there would be a massive 02:32:40.800 --> 02:32:45.680 influx of amyloidosis and spike protein induced prion disease 02:32:45.680 --> 02:32:49.600 and he was already convinced of this in March or April of 2020 02:32:49.600 --> 02:32:52.760 and he remains convinced of it now five years later. 02:32:52.760 --> 02:32:57.680 He has done nothing but stream about the N word and Jews 02:32:57.680 --> 02:33:00.120 and how the Jews are responsible 02:33:00.120 --> 02:33:04.320 and he has done nothing but associate his own racist bigotry 02:33:04.360 --> 02:33:06.680 with me and a couple other people 02:33:06.680 --> 02:33:08.960 with the idea, I guess, of slandering us. 02:33:08.960 --> 02:33:11.640 And the first time that I reviewed his work 02:33:11.640 --> 02:33:14.920 was when he got in a shouting match with Mark Bailey 02:33:14.920 --> 02:33:17.760 and at that point, he already started calling me names 02:33:17.760 --> 02:33:21.080 and said I was a liar and I didn't know what I was talking about 02:33:21.080 --> 02:33:22.800 but he didn't really lose his mind 02:33:22.800 --> 02:33:24.800 until I started teaching about the clones 02:33:24.800 --> 02:33:26.760 and then him and Charles Rixi 02:33:27.760 --> 02:33:29.960 pretty much have gone full tilt, 02:33:31.560 --> 02:33:33.800 giga-ohm spiral and all these other things. 02:33:34.160 --> 02:33:38.680 There are hundreds of hours of videos of these guys 02:33:38.680 --> 02:33:41.160 spending most of their time trying to say 02:33:41.160 --> 02:33:44.440 that I'm a bad guy and it's just absurd. 02:33:44.440 --> 02:33:47.120 It's laughable at this stage. 02:33:47.120 --> 02:33:52.120 Do you realize that Kevin McCarran came to Pittsburgh 02:33:52.240 --> 02:33:56.380 from Japan and tried to stay overnight in my house? 02:33:57.360 --> 02:33:59.800 This guy is more than a medler. 02:33:59.800 --> 02:34:01.560 It is, this is real. 02:34:01.600 --> 02:34:04.360 Like these people came to my house. 02:34:04.360 --> 02:34:08.880 They are being paid to keep the worst-case scenario alive. 02:34:08.880 --> 02:34:09.720 I assure you. 02:34:11.080 --> 02:34:16.080 And most importantly, he was involved in making it very hard 02:34:17.000 --> 02:34:20.920 to decide, the idea that we were transfecting billions 02:34:20.920 --> 02:34:24.520 of people, one of the most likely possibilities 02:34:24.520 --> 02:34:26.400 would be misfolding of proteins 02:34:26.400 --> 02:34:28.800 and potential generation of prion states. 02:34:28.840 --> 02:34:31.640 So imagine that they knew this was a possibility 02:34:31.640 --> 02:34:33.360 and they had people like Kevin McCarran 02:34:33.360 --> 02:34:34.640 from the very beginning out there 02:34:34.640 --> 02:34:36.560 in the darkest corners of the internet 02:34:36.560 --> 02:34:38.040 putting this nonsense out there 02:34:38.040 --> 02:34:39.720 so that when it finally did happen, 02:34:39.720 --> 02:34:42.760 it wouldn't be very hard for them to confound it 02:34:42.760 --> 02:34:45.800 with the original gain of function virus. 02:34:45.800 --> 02:34:48.040 This guy's one of the worst characters out there, 02:34:48.040 --> 02:34:48.880 I assure you. 02:34:49.880 --> 02:34:51.480 Oh my gosh, he makes me mad. 02:34:51.480 --> 02:34:54.960 He really, really has been messing with my family 02:34:54.960 --> 02:34:57.320 for four straight years. 02:34:58.320 --> 02:34:59.160 Yep. 02:34:59.160 --> 02:35:00.000 Thank you, JJ. 02:35:00.000 --> 02:35:00.840 Thanks, Tom. 02:35:00.840 --> 02:35:01.680 Make it. 02:35:02.880 --> 02:35:04.360 Very briefly. 02:35:04.360 --> 02:35:05.840 Thank you so much, JJ. 02:35:05.840 --> 02:35:06.680 Good novel. 02:35:06.680 --> 02:35:08.360 It must be very late there, huh? 02:35:08.360 --> 02:35:09.680 I mean, my goodness. 02:35:09.680 --> 02:35:11.200 I'm putting the affords here. 02:35:11.200 --> 02:35:12.200 Okay. 02:35:12.200 --> 02:35:14.240 Your wife's from the Netherlands, isn't she? 02:35:14.240 --> 02:35:15.560 Netcloped, yep. 02:35:15.560 --> 02:35:16.640 Yeah. 02:35:16.640 --> 02:35:18.000 Hillhoot, Hillhoot. 02:35:18.000 --> 02:35:20.200 Okay, I have a question. 02:35:20.200 --> 02:35:23.080 I read the book of John of Robert Kennedy, 02:35:23.080 --> 02:35:25.400 the Wuhan cover-up. 02:35:25.400 --> 02:35:30.400 And there it says that you said it is on page 284. 02:35:34.600 --> 02:35:35.640 I know what she's going to read. 02:35:35.640 --> 02:35:40.640 A virus designed by a jean jockey on a keyboard, says Kui. 02:35:41.960 --> 02:35:43.800 So, what do you think about it? 02:35:43.800 --> 02:35:45.760 Is this correct or? 02:35:45.760 --> 02:35:48.520 At the time that he's quoting me, 02:35:48.520 --> 02:35:49.880 that's exactly what I said, 02:35:49.880 --> 02:35:53.240 but what I'm meaning is that they created a clone. 02:35:53.240 --> 02:35:54.960 So when you do it on a keyboard, 02:35:55.000 --> 02:35:55.840 you make a clone. 02:35:55.840 --> 02:35:57.760 And this is, again, 02:35:57.760 --> 02:35:59.560 I don't know how to say it any other way, 02:35:59.560 --> 02:36:02.920 other than to say that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 02:36:02.920 --> 02:36:05.280 wanted to write a book about a lab leak. 02:36:05.280 --> 02:36:08.640 And it wasn't until very late 02:36:08.640 --> 02:36:10.720 in my service of this book 02:36:10.720 --> 02:36:12.000 that I started to realize 02:36:12.000 --> 02:36:14.120 that I was perpetuating the wrong narrative. 02:36:14.120 --> 02:36:15.680 And I did teach it to him. 02:36:15.680 --> 02:36:17.760 It is in the book in some places, 02:36:17.760 --> 02:36:19.400 but there are quotes, 02:36:19.400 --> 02:36:22.960 including one where I think it's very late in the book 02:36:22.960 --> 02:36:26.400 where I say that oftentimes grand proposals 02:36:26.400 --> 02:36:28.480 are done before they are submitted. 02:36:28.480 --> 02:36:30.080 And that was used to say 02:36:30.080 --> 02:36:32.080 that maybe the diffuse proposal was done. 02:36:32.080 --> 02:36:35.960 And I would argue with throwing myself under the bus 02:36:35.960 --> 02:36:39.160 to say that they went so far as to come to my house 02:36:39.160 --> 02:36:40.440 to convince me to say that. 02:36:40.440 --> 02:36:41.320 And they did. 02:36:41.320 --> 02:36:42.760 They convinced me to believe that 02:36:42.760 --> 02:36:45.240 for several months that I was wrong, 02:36:45.240 --> 02:36:47.240 that the diffuse proposal might be right, 02:36:47.240 --> 02:36:49.320 and that I needed to think very carefully 02:36:49.320 --> 02:36:51.720 about whether I was putting people in danger. 02:36:51.720 --> 02:36:54.320 And this, when people come to your house, 02:36:54.320 --> 02:36:55.800 when people call you on the phone, 02:36:55.800 --> 02:36:58.440 when people send you emails like this over and over 02:36:58.440 --> 02:37:00.320 for many, many, many years, 02:37:00.320 --> 02:37:03.000 it becomes very difficult to stick to your laurels 02:37:03.000 --> 02:37:04.560 and say, no, I'm sure Mike Eden 02:37:04.560 --> 02:37:06.800 and Wolfgang Wodarg are right. 02:37:06.800 --> 02:37:08.480 And these guys are full of baloney. 02:37:08.480 --> 02:37:11.080 And that's really where we are. 02:37:11.080 --> 02:37:12.680 And during the writing of that book, 02:37:12.680 --> 02:37:15.280 you can see the evolution of my thoughts 02:37:15.280 --> 02:37:17.400 and at least I can in my notes. 02:37:17.400 --> 02:37:19.600 And it's just a question of, 02:37:19.640 --> 02:37:22.000 Bobby's ultimate objective was to make sure 02:37:22.000 --> 02:37:23.880 that the mythology was captured. 02:37:23.880 --> 02:37:26.840 I don't think we are in a scenario 02:37:26.840 --> 02:37:30.960 where Bobby couldn't come to understand this biology 02:37:30.960 --> 02:37:33.320 the way that we understand it 02:37:33.320 --> 02:37:35.320 and just don't necessarily think 02:37:35.320 --> 02:37:36.600 that it's gonna be that easy. 02:37:36.600 --> 02:37:40.280 And I'm for sure that there are lots of forces out there 02:37:40.280 --> 02:37:42.800 that have made sure those books were written. 02:37:43.680 --> 02:37:46.920 And it's just very hard. 02:37:46.920 --> 02:37:49.040 I don't wanna say anybody's a bad guy 02:37:49.040 --> 02:37:51.160 because I think so many people like myself 02:37:51.160 --> 02:37:55.520 were taken by the narrative and by the performances 02:37:55.520 --> 02:37:59.840 and by the previous rumors and mythologies 02:37:59.840 --> 02:38:00.800 that we all grew up with. 02:38:00.800 --> 02:38:04.400 I gave my kids all their shots in 2022 02:38:04.400 --> 02:38:07.040 before we moved to the new school that they're at now. 02:38:07.040 --> 02:38:09.640 And it was a week later that my wife and I sat down 02:38:09.640 --> 02:38:13.000 and watched Vaxxed and we cried for hours 02:38:13.000 --> 02:38:14.800 because we realized, oh my God, 02:38:14.800 --> 02:38:16.240 what in the hell have we been doing? 02:38:16.240 --> 02:38:18.960 We've been working for Bobby Kennedy for half a year. 02:38:18.960 --> 02:38:21.360 We never bothered to watch the movie. 02:38:21.360 --> 02:38:23.080 That's how stupid I am. 02:38:23.080 --> 02:38:24.920 So I don't want anybody to think I hate it 02:38:24.920 --> 02:38:26.560 when I get introduced as a genius 02:38:26.560 --> 02:38:28.400 because I'm not a genius. 02:38:28.400 --> 02:38:31.120 I figured this out like everybody else 02:38:31.120 --> 02:38:33.360 that went crazy, figured it out. 02:38:33.360 --> 02:38:36.160 And only very few people were smart enough 02:38:36.160 --> 02:38:38.400 to be ahead of this and I wasn't one of them. 02:38:38.400 --> 02:38:39.480 I definitely wasn't. 02:38:41.120 --> 02:38:41.960 Yeah. 02:38:41.960 --> 02:38:42.800 Thank you. 02:38:42.800 --> 02:38:44.440 Thank you, make it look good to go. 02:38:44.440 --> 02:38:46.000 We're gonna move on. 02:38:46.000 --> 02:38:47.800 Thank you, great question. 02:38:47.800 --> 02:38:51.280 Now, JJ, just to just stay there, JJ, 02:38:51.280 --> 02:38:53.640 we're gonna last couple of questions from Stephen, 02:38:53.640 --> 02:38:56.160 but one thing I want to remind everybody of, 02:38:57.320 --> 02:39:00.040 it's a crucial concept, 02:39:00.040 --> 02:39:02.880 make all of us feel good about not being geniuses 02:39:02.880 --> 02:39:06.480 because Albert Einstein said every one of us 02:39:06.480 --> 02:39:08.320 is born a genius, 02:39:08.320 --> 02:39:11.640 but if you contemplate all human knowledge 02:39:11.640 --> 02:39:14.520 between my hands, the smartest person on the planet, 02:39:14.520 --> 02:39:17.320 whoever you think that is knows this much, 02:39:17.320 --> 02:39:19.800 each one of us knows a tiny little bit. 02:39:19.800 --> 02:39:22.360 That's the point of these conversations. 02:39:22.360 --> 02:39:26.880 So, JJ's very honorable of you to admit being stupid. 02:39:26.880 --> 02:39:27.720 I'm stupid. 02:39:27.720 --> 02:39:32.720 In fact, the wonderful Anthony DeMello, 02:39:33.360 --> 02:39:34.480 when he says this, 02:39:34.480 --> 02:39:37.240 it is wonderful book awareness. 02:39:37.240 --> 02:39:40.600 He says, when somebody says you're an idiot, 02:39:40.600 --> 02:39:42.000 agree with them. 02:39:42.000 --> 02:39:44.240 Each one of us, we are total idiots 02:39:44.240 --> 02:39:46.800 except for this tiny little bit. 02:39:46.800 --> 02:39:49.200 So, glory in your idiocy. 02:39:49.200 --> 02:39:51.800 Now, last question, Stephen, are you there? 02:39:53.040 --> 02:39:56.160 Last couple of questions, JJ, I will let you go. 02:39:56.160 --> 02:39:57.480 Yeah, yeah, I'm here. 02:39:58.440 --> 02:40:00.920 So, just to switch on the video. 02:40:01.880 --> 02:40:04.720 So, JJ, I was kind of, 02:40:04.720 --> 02:40:07.080 I was going to ask you what happened at CHD 02:40:07.080 --> 02:40:09.600 because it was completely mystifying to me, 02:40:10.800 --> 02:40:15.080 hearing that you had lost your job at CHD 02:40:15.120 --> 02:40:17.080 on the 4th of January, I think you said. 02:40:17.080 --> 02:40:18.120 Yeah. 02:40:18.120 --> 02:40:20.000 I couldn't think of any good reason 02:40:20.000 --> 02:40:23.600 why they should choose now to get rid of you 02:40:23.600 --> 02:40:25.640 because as far as I can see, 02:40:25.640 --> 02:40:28.640 you are absolutely essential to understanding 02:40:28.640 --> 02:40:29.760 what's going on. 02:40:31.760 --> 02:40:34.160 But now it makes sense because I remember reading it, 02:40:34.160 --> 02:40:36.440 but I like R.F.K. Jr. 02:40:36.440 --> 02:40:38.440 I really like him. 02:40:38.440 --> 02:40:42.240 Remember R.F.K. Jr. is not at CHD anymore. 02:40:42.240 --> 02:40:44.360 He had to break all ties with them 02:40:44.360 --> 02:40:45.600 in order to run for president. 02:40:45.600 --> 02:40:48.640 So, he has no influence, and he actually was not, 02:40:48.640 --> 02:40:50.680 he was not involved in me being hired. 02:40:50.680 --> 02:40:54.520 I actually got hired because some of the writing team 02:40:54.520 --> 02:40:57.280 from the book also worked at CHD 02:40:57.280 --> 02:40:59.520 and advocated for me to be hired by Brian. 02:40:59.520 --> 02:41:03.360 So, it's absolutely nothing to do with Bobby. 02:41:03.360 --> 02:41:05.560 I know that for sure because I actually called him 02:41:05.560 --> 02:41:08.080 when I got laid off because I was so sad. 02:41:10.000 --> 02:41:11.040 And what did he say? 02:41:11.040 --> 02:41:12.720 Well, he said he couldn't do anything about it, 02:41:12.800 --> 02:41:14.520 he had nothing to do with me being hired 02:41:14.520 --> 02:41:16.240 because he had already left the organization. 02:41:16.240 --> 02:41:17.640 They call him chairman and leave, 02:41:17.640 --> 02:41:19.760 but that's just a moniker that means nothing. 02:41:19.760 --> 02:41:22.120 He's nothing to CHD can't be. 02:41:22.120 --> 02:41:23.720 They can't talk to him. 02:41:23.720 --> 02:41:24.800 They call him what? 02:41:24.800 --> 02:41:26.240 A chairman on leave. 02:41:27.120 --> 02:41:27.960 All right, yeah. 02:41:27.960 --> 02:41:29.320 But is he going back there? 02:41:29.320 --> 02:41:32.680 Well, I doubt, I don't know, yeah, I don't know, 02:41:32.680 --> 02:41:35.200 but he can't be a part of the organization now. 02:41:35.200 --> 02:41:37.680 He is all contact has to be broken 02:41:37.680 --> 02:41:39.440 by definition in American law. 02:41:40.440 --> 02:41:42.880 So, that tells me that it's quite possible 02:41:42.880 --> 02:41:45.240 that he would have come to agree 02:41:45.240 --> 02:41:49.760 because I was mystified when I heard about three months ago, 02:41:49.760 --> 02:41:53.560 maybe I can't quite remember that he was going to write a book 02:41:53.560 --> 02:41:55.440 about all the gain of function stuff. 02:41:55.440 --> 02:41:58.440 And I thought, no, no, don't do that. 02:41:58.440 --> 02:42:03.000 That's part of getting everybody into the narrative, 02:42:03.000 --> 02:42:04.440 discussing the gain of function 02:42:04.440 --> 02:42:06.440 and how terrible it is. 02:42:07.440 --> 02:42:11.240 And so I like David Martin a lot, 02:42:11.240 --> 02:42:15.320 but I don't understand why he's fallen through it either. 02:42:16.560 --> 02:42:20.720 And anyway, point is that it now makes sense 02:42:20.720 --> 02:42:25.360 what happened to you at CHD in my mind anyway, 02:42:25.360 --> 02:42:26.760 that you are actually saying, 02:42:26.760 --> 02:42:30.320 well, actually don't believe this gain of function stuff. 02:42:31.320 --> 02:42:32.560 It's playing into the narrative. 02:42:32.560 --> 02:42:35.800 They want you to believe that it's all about fear. 02:42:35.800 --> 02:42:39.320 And it generated fear, whether they could do it or not, 02:42:39.320 --> 02:42:40.480 and they didn't need to do it. 02:42:40.480 --> 02:42:42.480 So that's very important to understand. 02:42:42.480 --> 02:42:45.800 So taking it so seriously that you write a whole book about it, 02:42:46.800 --> 02:42:49.040 well, yeah, I remember thinking at the time, 02:42:49.040 --> 02:42:50.960 should I email him? 02:42:50.960 --> 02:42:53.440 And what, say, but I thought, 02:42:53.440 --> 02:42:55.080 he's got so many people around him, 02:42:55.080 --> 02:42:56.440 he probably wouldn't take any notice, 02:42:56.440 --> 02:42:58.520 so no point in wasting their time. 02:42:58.520 --> 02:43:00.520 So, but I did think about it. 02:43:00.520 --> 02:43:02.840 And maybe you and I could go to him 02:43:02.840 --> 02:43:05.760 and maybe Wolfgang too might be prepared to do it. 02:43:06.080 --> 02:43:10.960 I'm trying to work on a brief that describes this biology in text 02:43:10.960 --> 02:43:12.920 and has some citations and things. 02:43:12.920 --> 02:43:16.200 I think in the next week or week and a half, it will be done. 02:43:16.720 --> 02:43:18.400 And he will be one of the people that received it. 02:43:18.400 --> 02:43:19.280 So look at him in the long run. 02:43:19.280 --> 02:43:20.280 Oh, I don't know why not. 02:43:20.280 --> 02:43:22.080 CHD in the long run. 02:43:22.080 --> 02:43:23.520 If he's got it wrong, you know? 02:43:23.520 --> 02:43:25.680 Oh, no, that's right. That's right. I agree. 02:43:25.680 --> 02:43:29.240 So if you write the whole book about gain of function research 02:43:29.240 --> 02:43:31.800 and goes down the round ball route, you know, 02:43:31.800 --> 02:43:34.720 I just think he's going to look at fooling 10 years time. 02:43:34.720 --> 02:43:38.640 And so we need to warn him off and we're not warning him off, 02:43:38.640 --> 02:43:40.640 but suggest that, you know, 02:43:41.280 --> 02:43:43.120 there are dangers in going down that route 02:43:43.120 --> 02:43:46.040 because I really think that the whole thing was used 02:43:46.040 --> 02:43:47.600 just to generate fear. 02:43:47.600 --> 02:43:49.000 Well, he's a he's a lawyer. 02:43:49.000 --> 02:43:51.720 He's a lawyer, so he could very easily do what I've done 02:43:51.720 --> 02:43:52.960 and just say, I didn't get it. 02:43:52.960 --> 02:43:54.320 And now I get it. 02:43:54.320 --> 02:43:56.520 He could just say it. It's very easy. 02:43:57.120 --> 02:43:57.840 I mean, it's harder. 02:43:57.840 --> 02:44:00.040 It's harder for somebody like me to do it than a lawyer. 02:44:00.040 --> 02:44:01.560 I mean, why not? 02:44:01.560 --> 02:44:04.960 Well, whether whether RFK Junior becomes the president or not, 02:44:04.960 --> 02:44:06.960 he's got a huge following around the world. 02:44:06.960 --> 02:44:08.040 Yes, I agree. I agree. 02:44:08.040 --> 02:44:11.040 And so it's important for him to know it whether or not I agree. 02:44:11.040 --> 02:44:11.880 Absolutely. 02:44:11.880 --> 02:44:17.320 So maybe Wolfgang would like to join us because he he's got incredible insights to 02:44:18.200 --> 02:44:20.480 and actually Wolfgang, you are a virologist, aren't you? 02:44:20.480 --> 02:44:21.920 Oh, no, we're stopping. 02:44:21.920 --> 02:44:23.400 We're not having a conversation there. 02:44:25.720 --> 02:44:26.880 That's another statement. 02:44:26.880 --> 02:44:30.120 Another question to you, JJ, is do you want to write a book 02:44:30.120 --> 02:44:34.080 because I know someone who's a publisher who who's very interested. 02:44:34.080 --> 02:44:36.320 He can't couldn't be on tonight's call. 02:44:36.320 --> 02:44:38.160 Sure. Put me in touch with him. 02:44:38.160 --> 02:44:41.800 I mean, I've found a lot of people that are interested in me writing a chapter or two, 02:44:41.800 --> 02:44:44.200 but then they just ask me for the chapter right away. 02:44:44.200 --> 02:44:46.080 And so it's hard for me to. 02:44:46.080 --> 02:44:47.760 But yes, I would be in theory. 02:44:47.760 --> 02:44:49.840 I'm already writing for a very long time. 02:44:49.840 --> 02:44:54.840 I just don't publish it yet because I I'm not a very fast writer and I'm very anal. 02:44:54.840 --> 02:44:58.560 So it's it's good and he can please 02:44:58.880 --> 02:45:02.800 even get the book written for you if you know you dictated or you could have it. 02:45:03.800 --> 02:45:06.000 Well, don't don't tease me with those things. 02:45:06.000 --> 02:45:07.720 Just put me in touch. It would be great. 02:45:07.720 --> 02:45:08.440 I will do. Yeah. 02:45:08.440 --> 02:45:10.600 And Wolfgang, the same question to you. 02:45:10.600 --> 02:45:13.280 Would you would you like to write a book or not? 02:45:13.280 --> 02:45:15.680 Well, would Wolfgang write a book with me? 02:45:15.680 --> 02:45:17.760 We could write a book together. 02:45:17.760 --> 02:45:20.920 Yes, yes, I would love it. 02:45:20.920 --> 02:45:21.920 That's what we do. 02:45:21.920 --> 02:45:23.840 Well, set it up set it up, Stephen. 02:45:23.840 --> 02:45:25.120 We're going. OK. 02:45:26.120 --> 02:45:34.600 Wolfgang and JJ, you are you are a disgrace in demonstrating that you are not drinking 02:45:34.600 --> 02:45:38.560 enough water because for you to sit there for three hours without going to the toilet 02:45:38.560 --> 02:45:41.240 is very. Yeah, yeah, but you haven't made the toilet. 02:45:41.240 --> 02:45:43.000 So you're clearly not drinking enough water. 02:45:43.000 --> 02:45:45.440 Oh, I have to go. Don't worry. 02:45:45.440 --> 02:45:46.280 Yeah, good. All right. 02:45:46.280 --> 02:45:47.600 You have to go. Everybody big. 02:45:47.600 --> 02:45:50.040 Thank you to JJ. Right. 02:45:50.040 --> 02:45:52.800 Work. Thank you so much. 02:45:52.800 --> 02:45:54.680 Stephen, thank you for organizing everybody. 02:45:54.680 --> 02:45:56.440 We're going. We're way over time. 02:45:56.440 --> 02:46:01.440 Tom Rodman's video group, the link is in the chat and we'll see you on Sunday, 02:46:01.440 --> 02:46:03.360 Monday, depending on what part of the planet you're on. 02:46:03.360 --> 02:46:04.120 Thanks, JJ. 02:46:04.120 --> 02:46:05.520 Thank you very much, Stephen. 02:46:05.520 --> 02:46:07.600 Bye bye. 02:46:07.600 --> 02:46:08.760 Wow. 02:46:08.760 --> 02:46:10.280 Holy shit. 02:46:10.280 --> 02:46:11.800 Holy shit. 02:46:11.800 --> 02:46:13.800 Holy shit. 02:46:13.800 --> 02:46:14.800 Holy shit. 02:46:22.800 --> 02:46:24.800 Holy shit. 02:46:52.800 --> 02:46:53.800 Holy shit. 02:46:53.800 --> 02:46:54.800 Holy shit. 02:46:54.800 --> 02:46:55.800 Holy shit. 02:46:55.800 --> 02:46:56.800 Holy shit. 02:46:56.800 --> 02:46:57.800 Holy shit. 02:46:57.800 --> 02:46:58.800 Holy shit. 02:46:58.800 --> 02:46:59.800 Holy shit. 02:46:59.800 --> 02:47:00.800 Holy shit. 02:47:00.800 --> 02:47:01.800 Holy shit. 02:47:01.800 --> 02:47:02.800 Holy shit. 02:47:02.800 --> 02:47:03.800 Holy shit. 02:47:03.800 --> 02:47:04.800 Holy shit. 02:47:04.800 --> 02:47:05.800 Holy shit. 02:47:05.800 --> 02:47:06.800 Holy shit. 02:47:06.800 --> 02:47:07.800 Holy shit. 02:47:07.800 --> 02:47:08.800 Holy shit. 02:47:08.800 --> 02:47:09.800 Holy shit. 02:47:09.800 --> 02:47:11.800 Holy shit. 02:47:11.800 --> 02:47:12.800 Holy shit. 02:47:12.800 --> 02:47:13.800 Holy shit. 02:47:13.800 --> 02:47:14.800 Holy shit. 02:47:14.800 --> 02:47:15.800 Holy shit. 02:47:15.800 --> 02:47:16.800 Holy shit. 02:47:16.800 --> 02:47:17.800 Holy shit. 02:47:17.800 --> 02:47:18.800 Holy shit. 02:47:18.800 --> 02:47:19.800 Holy shit. 02:47:19.800 --> 02:47:20.800 Holy shit. 02:47:20.800 --> 02:47:21.800 Holy shit. 02:47:21.800 --> 02:47:22.800 Holy shit. 02:47:22.800 --> 02:47:23.800 Holy shit. 02:47:23.800 --> 02:47:25.800 Holy shit. 02:47:25.800 --> 02:47:26.800 Holy shit. 02:47:26.800 --> 02:47:27.800 Holy shit. 02:47:27.800 --> 02:47:28.800 Holy shit. 02:47:28.800 --> 02:47:29.800 Holy shit. 02:47:29.800 --> 02:47:30.800 Holy shit. 02:47:30.800 --> 02:47:31.800 Holy shit. 02:47:31.800 --> 02:47:32.800 Holy shit. 02:47:32.800 --> 02:47:33.800 Holy shit. 02:47:33.800 --> 02:47:34.800 Holy shit. 02:47:34.800 --> 02:47:54.800 Holy shit. 02:47:54.800 --> 02:47:55.800 Holy shit. 02:47:55.800 --> 02:47:56.800 Holy shit. 02:47:56.800 --> 02:48:09.800 Holy shit. 02:48:09.800 --> 02:48:10.800 Holy shit. 02:48:10.800 --> 02:48:11.800 Holy shit. 02:48:11.800 --> 02:48:12.800 Holy shit. 02:48:12.800 --> 02:48:13.800 Holy shit. 02:48:13.800 --> 02:48:14.800 Holy shit. 02:48:14.800 --> 02:48:15.800 Holy shit. 02:48:15.800 --> 02:48:16.800 Holy shit. 02:48:16.800 --> 02:48:17.800 Holy shit. 02:48:17.800 --> 02:48:18.800 Holy shit. 02:48:18.800 --> 02:48:19.800 Holy shit. 02:48:19.800 --> 02:48:20.800 Holy shit. 02:48:20.800 --> 02:48:21.800 Holy shit. 02:48:21.800 --> 02:48:22.800 Holy shit. 02:48:22.800 --> 02:48:23.800 Holy shit.