WEBVTT 00:16.018 --> 00:16.418 you you 00:44.929 --> 00:45.109 you 01:12.856 --> 01:18.569 This long day we see, hacking through, hacks it up, et cetera, who's the luck? 01:19.631 --> 01:22.337 Sepahu, Latim, Akwi! 01:42.008 --> 01:44.069 Hey, this is JC on a bike in the woods. 01:58.895 --> 02:00.976 Hey, JC on a bike in the woods here. 02:01.497 --> 02:03.097 We're at 1,192,000 people infected, about 64,000. 02:09.305 --> 02:12.468 Around the world, the only way that we're going to get through this is together. 02:12.488 --> 02:28.600 I think we have to come together as neighborhoods and as communities, as cities and as a country to try and pull each other through, especially those people who are suffering the most right now, people who have lost their jobs and people who are already on the edge financially are now suffering big time. 02:28.620 --> 02:31.202 And we need to look out for those neighbors, especially right now. 02:31.502 --> 02:32.504 Look out for your neighbors. 02:32.964 --> 02:33.685 Contact them. 02:33.766 --> 02:34.346 Say hello. 02:34.787 --> 02:35.729 Let's stay in touch. 02:35.789 --> 02:40.316 I know that there's an order to stay socially isolated, but that doesn't mean you can't wave across the street. 02:40.756 --> 02:42.238 It doesn't mean you can't leave them a note. 02:42.579 --> 02:44.161 It doesn't mean you can't wave and say hi. 02:53.780 --> 02:57.564 Speaking of working together, I'm really excited to bring you some news. 02:59.266 --> 03:14.663 The paper from 2015 that's kind of the center of any theory about whether or not this current novel coronavirus might have originated in a laboratory comes from the Barrick Laboratory at the University of North Carolina. 03:15.083 --> 03:31.672 This paper does a whole series of manipulations of a novel bat coronavirus to try and prove that there is pandemic potential within these SARS-like coronaviruses that were found in these bat populations in 2015. 03:32.073 --> 03:43.139 This paper is quite interesting, again, as I've said before, because it is kind of the central paper in terms of fueling this speculation that this virus might have originated in a laboratory. 03:43.539 --> 03:47.842 Well, I've read this paper quite a few times, and I understand it pretty well backwards and forwards. 03:48.243 --> 03:51.725 Even though I'm not a virologist, it's one of the places that I also started. 03:52.166 --> 03:57.930 And in the bibliography specifically, it's a great place to follow through as you find one interesting paper. 03:57.950 --> 04:04.735 Chances are you're going to find interesting work that previously came and is cited in the bibliography of any paper that you're interested in. 04:05.136 --> 04:10.440 And so I followed the bibliography of this paper quite extensively, although apparently not good enough. 04:20.945 --> 04:47.145 Specifically, a viewer from New Zealand, a retired English teacher, sent me a list of observations that she made wherein she found that a 2015 author's manuscript version, which is still archived on the internet, has a total of five or six, I think it's six, different references in its bibliography that don't appear in the current version on Nature Medicine's website. 04:47.645 --> 04:49.947 Neither the online version nor the PDF 04:50.687 --> 05:02.810 version contain five of these papers which are each methodological papers which show some aspect of this this laboratory origin theory that I've been putting forward for quite some time. 05:09.792 --> 05:18.794 So thanks to this viewer I'm going to be doing an extensive bike ride that will sort of show that will sort of show 05:20.734 --> 05:40.925 that will sort of show what these papers contributed to our viral biology in the last 10 years, what these methodologies mean in terms of their usefulness in exploring coronavirus biology, and then how they also could potentially be used to enrich for coronaviruses like the one we're currently experiencing. 05:41.325 --> 05:49.149 So again, thanks to this viewer, and let's make this start to become a pattern where we work together, we try to work together to pay attention. 05:52.540 --> 05:53.706 Thanks for joining me in the woods. 05:54.028 --> 05:55.938 I'll see you guys on the bike in a few days, okay? 06:01.915 --> 06:28.816 registered a vote it says down there wow and think about how how sucked in we got in then um and how sucked in i was already there but then a couple months later i mean i was already talking on a time frame there where i said that i've been putting forward this idea of a lab leak for quite some time it's april 2020 for quite some time is what i said there i mean 06:29.617 --> 06:30.657 That's extraordinary. 06:30.717 --> 06:33.698 So here's July the same year when the fear is gone. 06:33.778 --> 06:47.863 Oh, the next thing that I want to say is our lack of biological knowledge and the general poor health of the of America, of the American people is being used to create the crisis they need to divide and conquer us to ruin maybe America. 06:48.003 --> 06:48.444 I don't know. 06:49.104 --> 06:49.944 Crash the dollar. 06:50.164 --> 06:50.584 I don't know. 06:51.124 --> 06:55.066 Steal the rest of our our what limited Treasury value we have left. 06:55.266 --> 06:55.806 I don't know. 06:57.367 --> 06:58.327 But I know for sure 06:58.735 --> 07:16.177 that they are combining our lack of biological knowledge and our general society's lack of good health and access to health care to create a crisis to usher in all kinds of changes that would otherwise never be necessary, and more importantly, never be possible. 07:19.284 --> 07:26.470 The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. 07:27.190 --> 07:35.617 Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government, which is the true ruling power of our country. 07:43.063 --> 07:47.186 There are few things more dishonorable than misleading the young. 07:58.745 --> 07:58.966 you 09:01.087 --> 09:27.545 Saw your mama laughin' and talkin' on the phone With a little girl workin' on ice cream cone Drippin' on her shoes And I thought about you Saw spring break, Honda helpin' for Daytona Boys in the back, hidin' their corona Like kids do And I thought about you 09:32.346 --> 09:34.147 I thought about me. 09:36.088 --> 09:38.430 I thought about God. 09:39.851 --> 09:45.374 Everything love is and everything it's not. 09:45.474 --> 09:52.319 I thought about songs that make us feel better. 09:52.499 --> 09:57.202 I thought about faith that ties it all together. 09:57.442 --> 10:00.244 I thought about now and I thought about forever. 10:02.714 --> 10:04.436 and how we walk through it. 10:05.216 --> 10:08.419 The times I got it right, the times I blew it. 10:09.340 --> 10:10.641 I thought about real. 10:11.101 --> 10:12.302 I thought about good. 10:12.422 --> 10:15.064 And I thought about true. 10:15.985 --> 10:17.106 And I thought about you. 10:24.674 --> 10:44.181 I saw hungry misspelled on a cardboard sign In a dirty t-shirt that said road time So I gave him a few And I thought about you Ran into a buddy, said, how long's it been? 10:44.281 --> 10:49.783 I said, a couple of years He said, boy, it's been ten That's what time will do 10:58.063 --> 11:01.006 I thought about songs that make us feel better. 11:01.026 --> 11:03.767 I thought about faith that ties it all together. 11:03.787 --> 11:07.730 I thought about now and I thought about forever. 11:07.750 --> 11:11.933 I thought about fire and how we walk through it. 11:12.654 --> 11:15.856 The times I got it right, the times I blew it. 11:16.736 --> 11:21.800 I thought about real, I thought about good, and I thought about true. 11:43.513 --> 12:09.722 All about God Everything love is And everything it's not I saw a red balloon Somebody just let fly I watched it getting smaller Up in the sky For a minute or two And I thought about you 12:38.675 --> 12:40.696 He's scheduled for 60 minutes next. 12:41.756 --> 12:46.477 He's going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television. 12:47.878 --> 12:49.598 People everywhere are starting to listen to him. 12:51.237 --> 12:51.944 It's embarrassing. 12:59.372 --> 13:02.373 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. 13:02.393 --> 13:04.234 It is the 18th of October, 2024. 13:04.874 --> 13:09.176 I'm coming to you live from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 1.24 in the afternoon. 13:09.857 --> 13:24.283 Staying focused on the biology, not taking the bait on social media and trying to love our neighbors as best we can as we together run in this hamster wheel and we try to free ourselves from this mythology that has occupied our consciousness. 13:25.543 --> 13:27.044 for the last five years. 13:27.565 --> 13:29.346 I'm glad to see everybody in the chat. 13:30.246 --> 13:37.211 It looks like there's some energy around the recent presentations to Sukrit Bhakti and to Senator Ron Johnson. 13:37.952 --> 13:40.773 We'll see if we make any headway with that. 13:41.254 --> 13:43.896 These charlatans are well ingrained in our system. 13:43.976 --> 13:50.080 They're everywhere and they are whispering in the ears of people who are completely unaware of it. 13:50.120 --> 13:53.882 This is a phone call that I can't take right now and I need to unplug that. 13:53.902 --> 13:54.723 That's annoying. 13:55.684 --> 13:58.307 Um, the charlatans, yes, the charlatans. 13:58.467 --> 14:00.109 Also the ones on social media. 14:00.570 --> 14:06.597 Ladies and gentlemen, intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb. 14:07.017 --> 14:09.560 Transfection in healthy humans was always criminal. 14:10.021 --> 14:13.305 And RNA cannot pandemic because viruses aren't pattern integrities. 14:13.325 --> 14:14.847 There's no biology to back it up. 14:15.387 --> 14:29.053 So if we go there and realize that we have been having a very lively discussion within a limited spectrum of debate that will never really free our grandchildren, then you kind of understand where we are. 14:29.553 --> 14:41.299 And so whether you listen to Edward Bernays or Noam Chomsky or Aldous Huxley, make sure you realize that since they dropped us off at the beginning of the pandemic and said we were all lost, 14:42.319 --> 15:01.470 um they've been teaching us a mythology and a mythology was repeated over and over it didn't matter what car you got into you were hitchhiking on this road and they picked you up and they gave you a ride and by the time you rode around with them all the people in the car convinced you that there was a novel virus it was strange 15:02.190 --> 15:04.331 Millions died, but millions more were saved. 15:04.371 --> 15:06.072 But it's probably from gain of function. 15:06.132 --> 15:08.733 And even if it isn't this time, it will be next time. 15:09.214 --> 15:10.454 And that is the trap. 15:10.514 --> 15:15.477 That's the trap that was so wonderfully laid for all of us on social media. 15:15.497 --> 15:27.904 And you can see that video in the beginning of me very clearly falling into that trap about a mystery virus explaining the excess deaths that Judy Woodruff was showing us on the PBS NewsHour. 15:27.964 --> 15:29.524 Not a real explanation. 15:31.445 --> 15:46.054 whoa that's too fast what are you doing that's almost almost funky it's not a real explanation it was an explanation that omitted a bunch of the obvious murder and and just substituted a really big red and gray picture of a virus 15:47.114 --> 15:56.979 And even months later, when there was no epidemiological evidence of spread, very few people were actually in our vision saying any of these things. 15:57.079 --> 16:00.121 It's really quite extraordinary. 16:00.161 --> 16:05.544 And that's the same thing that I find very extraordinary about how almost seemingly inept 16:06.244 --> 16:26.923 the legal leadership has been with regard to these issues over the last, let's say, few decades, where the Congress continues to write laws which do not require the government to have any real justification for declaring an emergency which will 16:27.623 --> 16:29.485 remove many fundamental rights. 16:30.527 --> 16:38.836 And not only that, but the courts and the people interacting with the courts don't seem to know how to usefully use the U.S. 16:38.897 --> 16:43.702 Constitution and its supremacy in American law to challenge any of these notions. 16:44.577 --> 16:49.380 and leave it up to the rational basis review principle in American law. 16:49.821 --> 17:07.072 The fact that you've never heard about the difference between strict scrutiny and the rational basis review is really one of the central pillars of the evidence that people like Aaron Seery are not actually working on behalf of our grandchildren. 17:07.472 --> 17:12.436 And make no mistake about it, I don't make these accusations with names lightly. 17:12.776 --> 17:14.197 I think these are crucial 17:15.097 --> 17:28.400 crucial legs that need to be knocked out from underneath these posers that have not been usefully fighting the mythology that we need to free our grandchildren from, even those grandchildren that are not yet born. 17:28.801 --> 17:31.381 We need a new consensus about the vaccine schedule. 17:31.841 --> 17:38.063 We need a new consensus about transfection and the products that were called transfection before the pandemic. 17:38.743 --> 17:46.848 and we need to have a new consensus about what RNA can and cannot do and the biological basis for those propositions. 17:47.008 --> 17:59.617 Because right now, we are just taking the word of big pharmaceutical companies and biosecurity people and governments around the world who have had a problem to manage 18:00.820 --> 18:09.791 And we are taking their word for it that RNA can indeed pandemic, that it has some magic properties of a, let's say pattern integrity. 18:09.831 --> 18:11.052 And that's just ridiculous. 18:12.318 --> 18:31.070 What has really happened is that these people have created an illusion of consensus, and our acquiescence to social media has made us very vulnerable to the limited spectrum of debate that they have created, because it can feel a lot like we're fighting, but we're actually not fighting. 18:31.110 --> 18:33.372 What we're doing is participating in a theater. 18:34.417 --> 18:44.129 And the people on stage are actually part of that theater and they are part of a new kind of totalitarianism that was first and best described by Aldous Huxley. 18:46.263 --> 19:01.429 And in that description, he very aptly describes that acolytes of the ruling oligarchy will perform for us while the oligarchy quietly runs the show. 19:01.609 --> 19:06.231 We won't be looking at any real debates or any real mysteries being solved. 19:06.751 --> 19:10.933 And I am suggesting that that is how the pandemic was 19:11.633 --> 19:32.740 pulled off, that social media and the resistance to the narrative was actually a controlled theater, performed by people that are put in place by weaponized piles of money that include Peter Thiel, and Elon Musk, and the Vatican, and the City of London, and banks, and private equity. 19:32.760 --> 19:40.562 Of course, all of these things combine to sit at the table, provided they have enough money in a single pile to be weaponized against us. 19:41.860 --> 19:45.481 And it's trivial for these people to be lined up against us. 19:45.581 --> 19:48.322 The numbers here are orders of magnitude, right? 19:48.882 --> 20:04.206 And you know, I'm working on the lowest end of the magnitude here where I have to just say that these weaponized piles of money are who I'm fighting and so I need you to help me because I don't stand a chance without your help because most people are participating in the argument on social media. 20:04.786 --> 20:05.967 They are actively 20:06.847 --> 20:12.992 using social media and more importantly skillfully using it so that they can be actively governed this way. 20:13.032 --> 20:17.536 And I'm afraid they're all going to act the fool in a few weeks no matter what happens. 20:17.836 --> 20:19.477 Everybody's going to lose their mind. 20:19.678 --> 20:25.462 Everyone that is skillfully using social media is going to be very vulnerable to this. 20:26.723 --> 20:36.570 And so I have put together a, with the help of some friends, stream.gigaohm.bio, which is a free archive of all the work that we've done this year. 20:37.811 --> 20:47.979 And the idea here is to make sure that everybody can get at it without a algorithm, without somebody storing their data, without somebody following you around. 20:48.919 --> 20:49.780 So welcome to the show. 20:49.820 --> 20:50.981 This is Gigaohm Biological. 20:51.001 --> 20:51.942 My name is Jonathan Cooey. 20:51.962 --> 20:53.303 I live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. 20:53.323 --> 20:54.744 I'm coming to you live from my garage. 20:56.024 --> 21:03.488 And I guess I'm doubled up here on the screen because I don't know how to run my own setup Like I said, it's the 18th of October. 21:03.528 --> 21:16.756 I'm happy to be here I'm feeling a lot of energy from the recent couple days where I Feel like somehow or another progress is being made or maybe progress is not being made but the illusion has gotten better of the progress recently and it's been more engaging and 21:17.676 --> 21:18.397 So I'm excited. 21:18.437 --> 21:28.664 I didn't expect Senator Ron Johnson to show up at the presentation that I was doing for the Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International, the Stephen Frost and Charles Kovas group. 21:30.045 --> 21:31.466 It was pretty fun. 21:31.686 --> 21:35.409 Dr. Asim Malhotra on the high wire would indeed be quite comical. 21:35.889 --> 21:37.110 We'll skip that for today. 21:37.510 --> 21:43.375 In case you don't know who you're talking about or talking to or listening to, if that be the case, my name is Jonathan Cooey. 21:43.415 --> 21:46.237 I used to be an academic biologist and microscope jockey. 21:47.017 --> 21:49.659 I did a lot of in vitro work, but also some in vivo work. 21:49.679 --> 21:56.382 You can find the record of that work on PubMed, the National Institutes of Health online library. 21:56.402 --> 21:58.903 You can just look for my last name and it's pretty easy to find. 21:59.304 --> 22:07.708 The kind of experiments that I did involved connectivity between neurons and some of the work that I did originally start with could have been called biophysics. 22:07.768 --> 22:08.288 I did some 22:09.494 --> 22:16.438 some single channel recordings and giant patch recordings, this kind of thing in my early work on potassium channels. 22:16.478 --> 22:21.921 And so I became a jack-of-all-trades of everything kind of small and cell membrane style. 22:23.345 --> 22:30.952 Of course, that's a whole universe of stuff there, and Mark is actually doing a very good job of giving us an introduction. 22:30.992 --> 22:43.123 Mark of Housatonic ITS, Housatonic Live on YouTube, is doing a very good job, and on Twitch, of giving us an idea of how much of a factor influence 22:45.365 --> 23:05.079 the Atomic Energy Nuclear Weapons Manhattan Project had on the direction that genetics and biology and the investigation of the big ideas on which all other things are kind of founded. 23:06.979 --> 23:22.626 These techniques and these ways of thinking and these ways of applying math all originate from physicists and physics and chemistry coming together to try and penetrate the physical laws of biology. 23:23.426 --> 23:40.679 And we're all kind of converging in the same place when we read books like Jonas Salk's Survival of the Wisest, or we read this book that we're reading in our Biology 101 class, which is What is Life, and a lot of the 23:41.460 --> 23:52.068 the sort of summary ideas, or as they matured with regard to physics and chemistry, they all kind of come back to this aperiodic crystal idea that this guy put forward. 23:52.088 --> 23:58.033 That combination of words seems to be very enticing for quite a number of these thinkers. 23:58.113 --> 24:03.557 And so it's just really nice how all of these things in our work has dovetailed together. 24:03.597 --> 24:08.540 Mark, being a guy who's very interested in the human history of this and how these ideas have 24:09.521 --> 24:35.117 been passed down and who passed them down and how they were passed down and how that so overlaps with my sort of calling or whatever that I feel like as a general biology teacher, as an introductory biology teacher for adults, recovering adults, if you will, from recovering from the immunomythology that we all grew up with, I feel like recovering young adults 24:35.837 --> 24:48.789 need to have somebody that can bring them in from a helicopter perspective, from a 30,000 foot view right down through to, okay, so the foundational ideas where you were given in university are where you're trapped. 24:49.710 --> 25:04.723 And once you realize how malevolent of a trap this idea of a selfish gene is, the more you will see how easy it would be to bamboozle anybody who that idea made just enough sense so that you go, oh, I guess that makes sense to me. 25:05.323 --> 25:09.167 And then you don't really question anybody who can run away with that. 25:11.048 --> 25:14.409 And that's a very, very dangerous place for our kids to be. 25:14.869 --> 25:19.371 And it's a very dangerous place for us to be almost two generations away from the truth. 25:19.411 --> 25:28.694 If you see what Mark is doing, you can see that we're almost two generations away from when people were still genuinely trying to figure stuff out. 25:29.134 --> 25:31.415 And that is pretty darn frightening. 25:34.071 --> 25:36.414 I think we're in a really exciting place though. 25:36.454 --> 25:37.935 And so I'm very happy to be here. 25:37.955 --> 25:53.171 I'm very happy that my, you know, almost lifelong desire, uh, drive to, to understand the living world has really brought, put me in a nice position to be here, to capitalize on this and to be able to, um, 25:58.396 --> 26:02.959 I don't know, fight on the front lines of this idea and these ideas. 26:03.199 --> 26:08.443 And I feel very humbled by the fact that there just aren't very many people here. 26:09.083 --> 26:13.266 There aren't very many people who can see it as clearly or see this side of it. 26:13.286 --> 26:19.550 I don't know what the right way to say it is, because I'm still very convinced that I have a lot of work to do and a lot of reading to do. 26:20.010 --> 26:22.132 And it's not just the books behind me, but it's 26:22.672 --> 26:26.315 It's a lot of books that aren't behind me yet that are already on my PDF reader. 26:26.375 --> 26:28.776 And it's, it's, we have a lot of work to do. 26:29.917 --> 26:37.722 And I understand that, but then I also realized that no one else is going to do this work if we, or I, GigaOM doesn't doing it. 26:38.443 --> 26:42.005 So, um, why is this not running? 26:44.352 --> 26:47.075 So you can find me at stream.gigaom.bio, all the links are there. 26:47.135 --> 26:53.082 If you go to that home link, that home link is the best place to start because it'll get you wherever you need to go as quick as possible. 26:53.122 --> 26:58.547 That's also the one really to share with people because otherwise it bounces around mostly time to my channel. 26:59.889 --> 27:03.012 Just because that's the way we set it up to make sure that people couldn't meddle with it. 27:03.373 --> 27:05.835 I'm going to escape for a second and start that slide again. 27:06.836 --> 27:23.936 um and switch down to here there's really important little basic things that are out there now that everybody seems to want to ignore and it's become kind of clear to me that there's a reason why i got so much attention in 2021 and i think it's because i got to this point right here 27:26.030 --> 27:44.638 We have to understand, and this is very important, that every time any one of these people on X or any one of these people that listens to the short presentation or the elevator pitch ignores this part right here, this part, then you know that they probably, it's very bad. 27:45.678 --> 27:54.982 Because this part right here is able to explain almost everything except for the shape of those peaks. 27:56.997 --> 28:15.837 In other words, I would argue that statistically speaking, almost none of those people, if you take away the people that were murdered, and you take away the people that were overdosed, murdered, then you will find that very few of those people were unexpectedly dead. 28:16.478 --> 28:18.360 Like this was not their time yet. 28:20.467 --> 28:38.941 And if you see it as that, that the only things that have contributed to any useful signal and decrease in life expectancy are murder or opioids or identifiable causes, then you can already see the problem. 28:39.001 --> 28:48.169 If you already understand, and this is crucial for people in Europe to accept, for people in America to understand that Ted Turner, 28:49.136 --> 28:53.137 and others were talking about this problem and how to manage it for a long time. 28:53.177 --> 29:00.520 And the problem that they're talking about is, is that the old retired population is very expensive in these countries. 29:02.421 --> 29:06.702 The old retired population is very expensive in these countries. 29:08.463 --> 29:15.125 And so it is a problem that these countries would need to manage, especially if their fiat currencies were already leveraged. 29:17.577 --> 29:20.099 And they have seen this problem coming for some time. 29:20.139 --> 29:26.563 They have complained about it on television, on the evening news about social security is gonna go bankrupt or something like that. 29:26.583 --> 29:30.806 It's yeah, okay, but it's a limited spectrum of debate. 29:31.006 --> 29:33.007 Remember Noam Chomsky told us. 29:34.008 --> 29:44.635 And so that limited spectrum of debate acknowledges this, but not really and does definitely would not tell you that this expected rise in all cause mortality could be five or eight years long. 29:45.819 --> 30:14.474 and that with careful manipulation, they could create illusions for quite some time with just this one biological certainty that there are more old people than we need and when they're gone, we're gonna have a sort of excess of infrastructure and societal whatever that won't be necessary, will be overkill, will be different, it'll just be strange because the pyramid went from this to this 30:15.768 --> 30:16.028 Right? 30:16.308 --> 30:17.769 And now it's going to go to this. 30:18.470 --> 30:21.351 Like that's, that's what we have here. 30:21.932 --> 30:28.255 And that's why only Elon Musk and a few other people will occasionally say that something to do with population. 30:28.295 --> 30:36.400 But I don't think Elon Musk is ever going to say anything about population again, because what he was saying was that population is about to collapse. 30:36.560 --> 30:36.940 Yes. 30:37.020 --> 30:38.681 But what does that actually admit? 30:39.181 --> 30:41.543 If population is about to collapse, 30:43.643 --> 30:46.212 then that means the population has a bump in it. 30:47.000 --> 30:53.883 So now remember, please, this is really important because I think this is one of the central things that everybody's ignoring right now. 30:54.023 --> 31:05.047 Everybody meaning not you guys, because you're not ignoring me, but the people that are trying to distract you from what, distract other people from what the message of GigaOhm Biological is. 31:05.507 --> 31:15.991 If you understand a population pyramid, the population pyramid is a graph which goes, and it's divided in the middle, and you have female on one side, you have male on the other. 31:17.586 --> 31:20.149 And going here, you have age. 31:20.989 --> 31:24.052 And so 100 years old would be here, and zero would be here. 31:24.092 --> 31:28.136 And then the bars would be, let's say, every five years or something like that. 31:28.196 --> 31:36.704 So if you made it a smooth curve, a country like Mexico might look like this, where you have not very many old people and a lot of young people. 31:37.565 --> 31:40.587 And a country like the United States in the state of the 31:43.993 --> 31:54.299 of the country that we were in right before the pandemic, if the people that we're playing with were honest, my guess is that it would look something like this. 31:58.002 --> 32:03.065 And so there was a noticeable bump that was moving up every year, right? 32:03.105 --> 32:11.450 Because every year these people get older and then eventually would have, you know, you get to a hundred years old and then there's nobody or nobody up there because people die. 32:12.970 --> 32:31.196 And so what I'm suggesting to you is if this bump was approaching maturity, if you will, retirement, if you will, Medicare, full-time, if you will, then people like Ted Turner already saw that coming years ago when it was down here. 32:33.373 --> 32:38.895 That's the argument I'm making, that 20 years ago, this bump would have been visible down here. 32:39.395 --> 32:46.137 And instead, maybe there was a curve that looked like this, and there was a bump like that. 32:48.037 --> 32:57.260 But irrespective of what it was, I guarantee you the real data that these actuaries saw, this bump has already been visible for decades. 32:59.011 --> 33:10.400 And so there has been a concerted effort over a couple decades to seed a narrative within the bureaucracy of a biosecurity hazard. 33:10.460 --> 33:11.902 And this was why. 33:13.443 --> 33:26.273 So that they would have an excuse to manage this problem that would otherwise bankrupt them if they just tried to extend the life of all of these people for as long as possible so that they could have as many happy Christmases as they could. 33:27.159 --> 33:33.780 Well, then we would have an incredible expense happen, depending on how bad this bump was. 33:34.061 --> 33:44.463 If this bump was a doubling or a tripling of the people aging out, then it could potentially be a doubling of the Medicare costs, right? 33:45.363 --> 33:51.865 And a doubling of the Medicare costs, if they're already half of the budget of America, then where are we then? 33:58.729 --> 34:00.550 I don't know why that's playing like that now. 34:00.610 --> 34:01.330 What happened there? 34:01.370 --> 34:02.270 Is it the Q button? 34:06.492 --> 34:07.952 I have no responsibility. 34:08.192 --> 34:09.573 It should really pause there. 34:09.633 --> 34:09.973 Darn it. 34:10.093 --> 34:10.693 That's annoying. 34:11.853 --> 34:13.954 Anyway, you know what I'm trying to say here, right? 34:14.354 --> 34:23.057 The population signal here, depending on the curation of this data alone, could potentially be very dangerous. 34:23.917 --> 34:24.237 There we go. 34:25.575 --> 34:39.737 could be potentially very dangerous and a source of a huge signal explanation, which means that, again, if you follow my argument, it only takes a little tiny bit of murder and lies to create little peaks like this. 34:39.837 --> 34:46.319 If you take the second I move this graph down, you can see that there's actually a peak missing from 2019. 34:46.439 --> 34:49.999 There's a little peak missing there. 34:50.159 --> 34:54.120 Usually they have a big peak in the winter, you know, of the flu deaths, and here there's no peak. 34:55.717 --> 35:06.299 So maybe this year in 2019, they just saved a bunch of people, spent a lot of extra money, keep a few more people alive one more year, and then in this year, they just said, boink. 35:07.439 --> 35:08.940 Little spike in New York City. 35:10.360 --> 35:11.900 High fives behind the scenes. 35:12.400 --> 35:25.103 Judy Woodruff gets cued to go on screen with a big picture of a virus behind her, and they get a few people like me from universities around the United States to make YouTube videos about how there's a million cases. 35:27.625 --> 35:28.807 And we're off to the races. 35:30.910 --> 35:40.183 Now we have effectively pulled the wool over everyone's eyes about an expected biological signal that could have potentially been very large. 35:41.519 --> 35:44.960 maybe for five years, a huge problem. 35:45.481 --> 36:01.507 You're not gonna tell everybody, well, ladies and gentlemen, if we keep your grandmother alive on Medicare, and we keep everybody else's grandmothers and grandfathers alive on Medicare, all the veterans alive on Medicare, as long as we possibly can, we actually can't afford it. 36:03.288 --> 36:04.989 That's the actual truth. 36:05.429 --> 36:10.431 If they were gonna go on TV and tell you the truth five years ago, they would have had to say, look, here's the deal. 36:12.182 --> 36:14.003 We got a lot of people that are getting older. 36:14.864 --> 36:16.665 The population curve looks like this. 36:16.925 --> 36:25.630 And as these people get older, we're simply not gonna be able to afford to give everybody the care that they would need to live the longest that they can. 36:26.291 --> 36:31.314 If you think about it the same way that you think about your grandmother who died five years ago or 10 years ago. 36:32.034 --> 36:39.899 If you think about the way that your father died, we're not gonna be able to provide that for everybody in the coming decade because 36:41.631 --> 36:43.574 This group is too big. 36:44.355 --> 36:48.620 The families after World War II were too big and there were too many people in those. 36:49.681 --> 36:50.722 Do you see the problem? 36:52.444 --> 36:54.507 There's no way to present that to people. 36:55.896 --> 36:58.598 There's no way to admit that that's a problem. 36:58.798 --> 37:02.582 And so they say things like, oh, social security is going to run out of money, la, la, la. 37:02.622 --> 37:12.590 But if you can't hear it, Medicare and Medicaid or whatever it is, and it doesn't even matter if we're specific, argue with us about this. 37:13.150 --> 37:15.172 is half the budget of America. 37:15.252 --> 37:30.463 So if the aging out population is starting to grow for even a very brief period of time, even for five years, just like I'm suggesting here, then this would be a management problem, a huge management problem. 37:32.825 --> 37:40.470 Maybe it was such a big management problem that they had somebody as early as May of 2020 publish a huge paper with over 50 37:42.489 --> 37:48.407 50 figures talking about all cause mortality and didn't talk about this phenomenon at all. 37:50.694 --> 37:51.514 Let me repeat that. 37:51.574 --> 38:15.303 Can you imagine a scenario where the weaponized piles of money that were trying to manage this problem that they could have known was coming for decades, if they would have known that they were going to manage this problem, one of the things they would have had to do was had somebody or some buddies out there very early managing the numbers of all cause mortality and not 38:16.840 --> 38:21.803 calculating this in as part of the expected whole cause mortality. 38:22.603 --> 38:24.124 Because that's really the key here. 38:27.545 --> 38:34.569 Because if they expected this rise, and they're not telling us that, then all the numbers that we're calculating are wrong. 38:34.749 --> 38:36.270 All the baselines are wrong. 38:36.330 --> 38:40.012 And if the baseline, for example, doesn't take into account that it's not normal, 38:41.189 --> 38:44.912 for 100,000 or more Americans every year to die of opioids. 38:45.452 --> 38:46.673 It's not normal. 38:47.113 --> 38:50.656 That's not all-cause mortality expected. 38:52.077 --> 39:02.425 If we don't accurately consider what our expected mortality is, then we're in very big trouble because these numbers aren't big. 39:02.465 --> 39:04.687 There's not very big game being played here. 39:06.048 --> 39:10.551 These numbers that these people throw around of a million people dead, that's a game they're playing. 39:12.443 --> 39:14.406 Because again, remember, we expected this. 39:14.806 --> 39:18.571 Three million people die every year in America, give or take. 39:18.631 --> 39:21.035 Three million people every year are expected to die. 39:21.515 --> 39:25.621 This graph right here shows between 50,000 and 65,000 people a week dying in America. 39:34.096 --> 39:47.539 I hate to harp on this, but this is really what I think is one of those things where everyone that puts a little time and a little thought into it can really see how potentially huge this is in terms of explanatory value. 39:48.851 --> 39:56.337 Because it also explains the motivation for all of these countries being in what they themselves called lockstep. 39:57.037 --> 40:01.241 Because their population problem was exactly in lockstep as well. 40:01.641 --> 40:05.404 Because they all experienced the same peace and prosperity after World War II. 40:08.626 --> 40:09.547 The same abundance. 40:11.388 --> 40:14.891 The same exuberance for life and family. 40:16.873 --> 40:17.193 You see? 40:17.213 --> 40:18.374 Do you see? 40:22.748 --> 40:33.580 And so, if I keep this going before we lose the plot here, they had to murder people to fix this problem, and the murder was long, and the list was long, but it was also curated. 40:33.620 --> 40:39.166 Just like Noam Chomsky said, they had people out there saying, oh, they're censoring the early treatment. 40:40.007 --> 40:41.589 Early treatment can save people. 40:42.995 --> 40:50.577 but nobody was out there saying that pure oxygen can kill people, so we better be careful as we flood the hospitals and talk about ventilators. 40:50.657 --> 40:59.159 Nobody was out there saying that you don't put people on a ventilator until they've been like, had their ribs crushed or something. 40:59.179 --> 41:06.782 You don't just put somebody on a ventilator because their pulse ox is low or to stop the spread of a respiratory virus. 41:06.802 --> 41:07.962 That would be ridiculous. 41:09.053 --> 41:11.155 Why weren't there any doctors saying that? 41:11.215 --> 41:20.241 That ventilating somebody is an incredibly invasive and ridiculously dangerous idea with all kinds of downsides if the person wouldn't need it. 41:21.282 --> 41:22.923 How come Pierre Cory didn't say that? 41:24.124 --> 41:25.405 He's an ICU guy. 41:26.446 --> 41:28.067 He's a extensively 41:30.003 --> 41:32.224 experienced, extreme medicine guy. 41:32.284 --> 41:38.988 He should have done known better than to let just everybody go nuts with ventilators and pure oxygen. 41:39.028 --> 41:43.551 And yet extraordinarily, CHD is promoting him right now. 41:43.631 --> 41:49.094 And he spent an enormous amount of time in BACS-3 talking about ivermectin, not about murder. 41:52.876 --> 41:57.319 And if you see that all of these people essentially were put in place or recruited during 2019 and 2020, 41:59.949 --> 42:02.792 and became part of Team Robert Malone or whatever team it is. 42:02.852 --> 42:08.077 Maybe it's Team David Hone or it's Team Mike Callahan. 42:08.137 --> 42:08.578 I don't know. 42:09.939 --> 42:20.270 But all of these people are basically on the same comic book story where you can spill something outside of a laboratory to no fault of your own if it's got the right fear and cleavage sites. 42:20.330 --> 42:21.031 Away it goes. 42:23.208 --> 42:28.337 And if you don't close all the doors and close all the airports, you're going to have something go endemic. 42:28.858 --> 42:35.409 And the whole, I, the word endemic, the whole discussion and definition of endemic is an enchantment. 42:36.345 --> 42:51.897 The moment you accept that there's a word that describes the process of a non-pattern integrity chemical molecule going from some to all over the place, then you're already engaged in enchanting yourself. 42:51.937 --> 43:00.644 You're already allowing yourself to be enchanted because the very definition of this word has no biological basis in reality, especially with regard to RNA. 43:04.437 --> 43:21.468 And yet all of these people have never challenged the idea, accepted the idea, could define the idea, even told us that this was the worst case scenario before and during the start of the pandemic, right up until Robert Malone's infamous appearance on Joe Rogan and on the Bret Weinstein podcast in the middle of 2021. 43:23.700 --> 43:31.565 And this talk of endemicity is very frustrating to me now because I can clearly articulate why. 43:32.366 --> 43:35.408 And people still keep ignoring it. 43:36.829 --> 43:41.592 The reason why this is so important to understand is because we don't have any data from before 2020. 43:41.632 --> 43:52.320 And without data before 2020, there is actually no way to differentiate spread from an existing background. 43:53.757 --> 44:02.803 And most or all of these people will have to ignore this fact now because the illusion requires you not to understand this. 44:02.883 --> 44:08.807 Because PCR was actually used on that background to create the illusion of the pandemic. 44:08.847 --> 44:12.829 PCR can't be questioned in a useful way by any of these people. 44:12.929 --> 44:15.431 All of these people were on the overcycling myth. 44:16.445 --> 44:19.547 And it has nothing to do with overcycling if the background is hot. 44:19.627 --> 44:23.571 And that's why none of these people usefully questioned the PCR test. 44:23.631 --> 44:33.338 And the only people who did were led by a group of people that was kind of coordinated by Kevin McKernan of the Human Genome Project, i.e. 44:33.378 --> 44:46.168 he's interested in sequences and interested in hiding the illusion of genes and the illusion of high fidelity understanding of, you know, genes are just a plan, a something something. 44:47.967 --> 44:52.209 that describes how our proteins are made or something like that. 44:52.810 --> 45:01.714 And Claire Craig, who was previously a private working for a public health initiative called the 100,000 Genomes Project. 45:05.168 --> 45:14.353 And those people didn't usefully question the idea of using PCR to detect something and diagnose something. 45:14.834 --> 45:21.798 They just created a limited spectrum of debate that they themselves were thus in a position to curate. 45:22.778 --> 45:30.303 And it was a limited spectrum of debate about primer dimers, or primer specificities, or temperatures in the reaction. 45:33.692 --> 45:35.133 And Mike Eden was in on that. 45:36.354 --> 45:37.755 Thomas Binder was in on that. 45:37.855 --> 45:38.495 Claire Craig. 45:39.956 --> 45:42.038 Kevin McKernan. 45:44.879 --> 45:46.681 There's another dude. 45:47.081 --> 45:47.962 Anyway, it doesn't matter. 45:48.002 --> 45:53.525 The point is that those same people were also very, very hot on different parts of these things. 45:53.545 --> 45:58.969 You'll notice that in 2020, Kevin McKernan never really talked about the fear and cleavage side at all. 46:01.184 --> 46:08.669 Kevin McKernan didn't touch the fear and cleavage site at all in 2020 because that was not part of his limited spectrum of debate. 46:08.709 --> 46:12.411 That piece of the puzzle was not what he was instructed to curate. 46:12.992 --> 46:27.681 He was curating the general narrative about PCR, the general narrative about RNA can indeed pandemic, the general narrative that we can really sequence things and we can learn about those sequences and put them in phylogenetic order. 46:29.656 --> 46:43.482 Jessica Rose was very specific, focused on VAERS, even though her entire resume while working under the funding of NATO was for modeling and doing mathematical studies of virology and including an HIV paper. 46:45.643 --> 46:53.087 And so once you start to see that all of these people were put in place to curate a narrative so that there would be specific puzzle pieces that dumb people like me 46:54.391 --> 47:12.468 interacting with them would never realize that they were curating a limited spectrum of debate standing in front of me while they rose ever higher through these money laundering schemes called Substack and Locals and all these international COVID summits that are somehow paid for by who knows who. 47:13.569 --> 47:17.152 Who's paying for these people to go all around the world for the sixth conference? 47:18.424 --> 47:34.309 Do we have a disclosure of the donors that are running the Unity Project, a disclosure of the donors that are funding the Steve Kirsch Vaccine Safety Research Council or the FLCCC that paid Pierre Cory a quarter million dollars a year? 47:36.950 --> 47:42.032 Does that sound like the real use of donations to try and fight this? 47:44.413 --> 47:47.814 Hot tub pictures and pictures of really expensive shoes. 47:49.744 --> 48:00.770 And the same people in 2020 who knew all these tricks are still the same people that are actually curating this narrative about transfection and DNA contamination now. 48:00.810 --> 48:13.918 And until we realize that they're doing it, until you see that they're covering up the murder, for example, none of these people have had the sympathy to say that, wow, the Scotland study is disturbing because they sure did murder people there. 48:15.438 --> 48:19.860 Because that would encourage people to look for murder in America and find it. 48:23.376 --> 48:28.038 I think John Baldwin could probably find the murder in America if he looked for it. 48:28.058 --> 48:42.885 He could find the people that died from COVID in 2020 and how many of them were given supplementary oxygen before they were ventilated or supplementary oxygen before they were given remdesivir, supplementary oxygen before they were anesthetized or given dexamethasone. 48:43.425 --> 48:52.409 He could find all of that stuff, but he is working exclusively on the shot and exclusively focused on the shot because 48:53.149 --> 49:02.252 He is collaborating with people who I guess don't want him to also look at the murder that justified people taking the shot. 49:02.632 --> 49:10.274 Because if we uncovered the murder that justified people taking the shot, then they would have even more ammunition to fight against the shot. 49:10.334 --> 49:11.635 But that's not what they want to do. 49:12.748 --> 49:23.554 And Steve Kirsch told us that the other day when he was on that podcast, when he wouldn't talk about a background signal or he wouldn't talk about PCR being accurate on a bench, but not for COVID. 49:23.574 --> 49:25.975 He wouldn't talk about transformation or transfection. 49:26.375 --> 49:35.880 The only person doing it right now is Jiki online and Jiki and getting promoted for it is a joke because he's saying that there were transfection agents 49:37.583 --> 49:44.011 in the shots that are causing the DNA contamination to go into cells. 49:45.893 --> 49:49.057 And so this is a gigantic admission, ladies and gentlemen. 49:49.458 --> 49:50.920 It is a gigantic admission 49:52.586 --> 50:13.858 that this statement here, that the countermeasures were classified as transformations and transfections before the pandemic, that academic biologists bought products that were called transformations and transfections as methodologies before the pandemic, is a message that cannot get out to academic biologists. 50:14.946 --> 50:22.954 And so anybody that's curious on X is gonna run into Team Robert Malone's anonymous representative, Jiki Leakes or Archmedic. 50:23.415 --> 50:30.282 And Archmedic is gonna complain about the fact that the Australian authorities have found DNA in the shots. 50:30.342 --> 50:34.086 And Kevin McKernan is one of the heroes that spoke out about it. 50:37.813 --> 50:42.054 And he's going to say that transfection agents are also found in the shots. 50:42.094 --> 50:47.896 And so what he's doing is tearing apart this narrative, this actual truth here. 50:49.157 --> 50:52.278 And he's incorporating it into the narrative rather. 50:52.318 --> 50:53.918 He's weaving it into the narrative. 50:53.938 --> 51:05.762 So it sounds like to a lot of people without the scrutiny or the insight to understand that enchantment, that the whole thing is a transfection agent. 51:06.544 --> 51:12.867 The lipid nanoparticle carrying a RNA is a transfection agent. 51:12.887 --> 51:14.508 If there's DNA in there, then great. 51:14.568 --> 51:15.689 There's also that too. 51:16.989 --> 51:24.874 But he's confusing transfection as a methodology, which it was before the pandemic, which is the argument I've been making since I figured it out in 2020. 51:26.843 --> 51:30.906 It's a methodology that they have lied about and called an investigative vaccine. 51:30.966 --> 51:35.889 It's not a vaccine with transfection agents in it that they lied about. 51:36.089 --> 51:48.757 Jicky, arch medic, meddler, liar, traitor to your grandchildren in Australia or wherever the hell you live. 51:50.318 --> 51:54.381 It's important to understand that this admission is huge. 51:55.831 --> 52:15.457 Because to write a substack and promote Kevin McKernan as having found double-stranded DNA and that there are transfection agents inside of the shots which are driving the DNA into your nucleus of your cells is so disingenuous and such a malevolent perversion of the truth. 52:17.978 --> 52:21.619 Because the truth is these words meant something before the pandemic. 52:21.659 --> 52:25.280 They meant a product type, a general methodology. 52:27.833 --> 52:36.023 And so what Jiki Leaks or Archmedic is doing is malevolent, and it is absolutely biologically wrong. 52:39.266 --> 52:55.575 And that same account, that same anonymous account has pretended to oppose some people in Panda, pretended to oppose some people like argue with Nick Hudson, but will not challenge Robert Malone, will not challenge Jessica Rose. 52:55.615 --> 53:06.221 And in fact promotes all of them who I have identified in my humble opinion as the center, the main core of a team Robert Malone. 53:07.190 --> 53:15.212 a team Ditra, a team David Hone that have been curating this narrative at home. 53:17.033 --> 53:26.956 And if we get to see them, if the average person can see them, it is going to be a level of, of, of movement that they cannot counter. 53:29.090 --> 53:42.740 But they're trying and they're trying and they have been for a long time able to counter it with the coordinated effort of accounts and the actual engagement with those accounts on social media. 53:43.200 --> 53:47.063 And since we have stopped engaging with those accounts, the only way 53:48.493 --> 54:11.180 The only thing that happens is that they make admissions and this latest admission from today from Jikki Leaks and the people promoting Jikki Leaks and the lists of people that they make really edify the idea that they're all part of one little weird multinational movement of meddlers on X. They could all just be employed by Elon. 54:11.821 --> 54:12.361 Why not? 54:13.681 --> 54:15.342 It's a very simple explanation. 54:16.601 --> 54:20.623 And then it would really explain why it's not really a lot of super smart people. 54:20.683 --> 54:30.009 It's just a lot of people that know how to use GIFs or some other thing, because Elon is not choosing the smartest people. 54:30.049 --> 54:36.412 He's choosing people like Steve Kirsch, who gave a lot of money to the DNC right before the pandemic. 54:36.472 --> 54:40.395 And for years before that, Robert Malone, who was a clear Democrat before this, 54:41.155 --> 54:45.656 that his wife has praised Peter Hotez for goodness sakes. 54:45.716 --> 54:52.838 I mean, this is ridiculous where we are right now, that any of these people have any clout left with any of the people who are awake. 54:53.298 --> 55:00.961 And once the people who are awake realize that they have been taken by these people, we will have a huge momentum that cannot be stopped. 55:02.681 --> 55:05.402 And so these obvious truths will get out. 55:06.496 --> 55:24.126 People like Mike Eden, who worked for pharmaceutical companies for years, need to admit that in order to make a biologic, you have to start with DNA and a bacterial culture, then somehow you have to get through the RNA to protein stage, and then you have to purify the protein. 55:25.066 --> 55:31.790 And that purification process is the most expensive part of the manufacture of a biologic like a monoclonal antibody. 55:32.921 --> 55:40.387 And that very expensive process called anion exchange chromatography isn't necessary and isn't even useful when purifying RNA. 55:42.469 --> 55:59.302 And so in reality, the process of changing from biologics to an RNA or DNA based vaccine made this insanely cheap and made it impossible for them to purify it. 56:00.782 --> 56:04.445 And so anybody who's worked in pharmaceuticals for 20 years would know that. 56:05.987 --> 56:09.249 And that includes anybody that claims to be a process expert. 56:10.350 --> 56:18.858 That includes anybody that says that they were, oh, I was in pharmaceuticals for a few years and then I retired and became a lawyer like Jonathan Engler. 56:21.897 --> 56:41.077 Anybody that retired from pharmaceutical testing like Sasha Latupova would know that biologics are manufactured in that way and that those steps are there and that it would be trivial for them to reorganize and in fact really cheap for them to reorganize their manufacturing structure so that they just stop short. 56:45.089 --> 56:49.792 And so this is the extraordinary part about it, because of course, Kevin McKernan knows this. 56:49.852 --> 56:53.513 He's cut his teeth in the Human Genome Project when he was like 16 years old. 56:53.554 --> 56:55.635 He's like the Doogie Howser of genes. 56:55.655 --> 56:58.476 That's why we call him McGenome in the chat. 56:59.156 --> 57:01.398 He knows how biologics are made. 57:01.818 --> 57:03.439 He knows why they're expensive. 57:03.479 --> 57:09.422 He knows what happens if the purification stage doesn't work and they detect genetic material in the final product. 57:12.728 --> 57:17.130 And he knows the intellectual property space around the processes of that. 57:17.690 --> 57:25.154 He knows the intellectual property space that was changed at the beginning of the pandemic with regard to monoclonal antibodies, and they don't talk about it at all. 57:28.587 --> 57:50.986 The other thing that's really interesting, and none of these people that have worked in pharmaceuticals for this long, like Jonathan Engler, or Mike Yeadon, or Sasha Latupova, or Kevin McKernan, will talk about how, wow, it's a really interesting point that Jay has about placebos, that if they needed to make a manufacturing quota that they knew they couldn't make, but they wanted to have everybody calm down and think that there was a countermeasure coming, 57:51.807 --> 58:15.644 then they could roll out placebos and give placebos until they got everybody you know maybe that's why they needed to do so many boosters because by the time they got everybody to take the fourth booster at least you would have gotten two hot shots and then everybody would have been you know gotten their thing and in the background they could have told a lot of a lot of numbskulls that you know we can't make this manufacturing quota 58:16.775 --> 58:23.261 And so it's okay for you to encourage people to take the shot because the vast majority of the first two waves will be placebo. 58:24.482 --> 58:35.672 And then once everybody has, you know, accepted it, that it's going to be safe, we're going to start more and more as we ramp up manufacturing, we're going to, we're going to put more and more hot lots out there. 58:35.692 --> 58:38.495 And there could be whole rooms of people who understand that. 58:40.520 --> 58:49.609 And that's why we have all this nonsense about hot lots and not hot lots and all this correlation studies and whatever, because it would be trivial to do that. 58:49.829 --> 58:55.915 And it would in fact be advantageous to both the biosecurity state ends and the pharmaceuticals ends. 59:00.000 --> 59:15.195 And so when you start to realize that the whole, you know, illusion of the manufacturing process needing to be retooled is actually a lie, and that that lie is also couched perfectly within this lie about virology and high fidelity virology, 59:16.897 --> 59:36.972 that it appears that a lot of virologists are not aware of how tenuous their field is and how seminal or vital it is to their field that they have access to commercial DNA sequence manufacturing, commercial DNA assembly products. 59:37.993 --> 59:42.877 Because without that, they wouldn't be able to get a handle on any of the phenomenon that they claim to study. 59:44.994 --> 59:59.784 And in fact, I think it's really important here to draw a little attention to something that we do know before we watch the video that I want to watch today. 01:00:04.047 --> 01:00:07.329 And that is this idea of what an infectious clone is. 01:00:07.369 --> 01:00:09.590 Now remember, there's a couple stories that they've told us. 01:00:09.630 --> 01:00:13.753 The first one, I apologize, I wasn't planning on drawing a picture. 01:00:14.670 --> 01:00:19.492 The first story, of course, is of a bat cave. 01:00:20.353 --> 01:00:23.914 And in the bat cave, there are bats, right? 01:00:23.934 --> 01:00:24.975 So bats are coming out. 01:00:25.775 --> 01:00:26.456 Can I draw a bat? 01:00:26.776 --> 01:00:26.916 Yeah. 01:00:30.077 --> 01:00:31.258 I didn't draw a bat very well. 01:00:32.358 --> 01:00:36.200 There are bats coming out of the bat cave, and the bat caves have the viruses, right? 01:00:38.941 --> 01:00:39.181 Now, 01:00:41.414 --> 01:00:46.039 The story is, is that you can take this virus and you can grow it in a petri dish. 01:00:46.139 --> 01:00:51.144 But the problem is, is whenever they do that, you get the same result. 01:00:51.404 --> 01:00:51.604 Okay? 01:00:51.624 --> 01:00:52.525 And it doesn't matter. 01:00:52.685 --> 01:00:57.010 And this is something that even Kevin McKernan himself has mentioned. 01:00:57.991 --> 01:00:58.731 Hold on. 01:00:59.552 --> 01:01:00.853 I don't have my bookshelf over here. 01:01:00.893 --> 01:01:03.116 So I got to wheel it over here because I got a couple of books I want to show you. 01:01:20.382 --> 01:01:26.686 So this book is a book that was published in the 80s, I think. 01:01:28.807 --> 01:01:30.448 It's actually a journal. 01:01:30.528 --> 01:01:34.710 It's called Advances in Experimental Medicine and Biology, and it's volume 173. 01:01:34.810 --> 01:01:37.372 And it is a discard from a library in New York. 01:01:43.829 --> 01:01:50.692 in the Squibb Library and it's called Molecular Biology and Pathogenesis of Coronaviruses. 01:01:50.732 --> 01:01:59.076 So it's a really interesting book that was published in Utrecht in the Netherlands and then also in the New York London Press. 01:01:59.716 --> 01:02:03.878 The original time it is published is 1983. 01:02:05.179 --> 01:02:07.660 And so I can show you this here, that's this book. 01:02:08.860 --> 01:02:11.923 And that's the title there, and that's the articles. 01:02:11.943 --> 01:02:12.824 Oops, sorry, this way. 01:02:13.645 --> 01:02:16.868 That's the dudes that edited it. 01:02:17.779 --> 01:02:18.499 And that's the book. 01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:20.940 And it has a very nondescript cover, right? 01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:24.181 Because it just has this, Advances in Medicine, and then it's got that thing there. 01:02:24.221 --> 01:02:26.361 So, I guess it's a publication that they were putting out. 01:02:26.381 --> 01:02:29.702 And then the rest of the book is really typed. 01:02:29.802 --> 01:02:34.443 It looks like they did it with a typeset printer, which is extraordinary. 01:02:35.343 --> 01:02:42.065 So, no matter what is done with regard to these... You know, these are bad gels, okay? 01:02:42.085 --> 01:02:44.626 You're not going to see great gels here. 01:02:45.706 --> 01:02:45.886 But... 01:02:47.071 --> 01:02:49.933 What I want you to see is that this signal hasn't been good ever. 01:02:50.093 --> 01:02:54.057 So even when they were playing with coronaviruses in the 80s, here's one for example. 01:02:55.297 --> 01:02:58.800 Selective of S1, no we don't want S1NM. 01:02:59.241 --> 01:03:06.786 Well here, here's them already showing you that they can find those proteins or that they can find those mRNAs. 01:03:06.866 --> 01:03:11.150 Some of them that we recognize S1, S2, N protein, M protein. 01:03:14.042 --> 01:03:31.349 The most important thing that I wanted to show you, which now I'm not showing you, which is annoying, is I would really like, I don't know, I don't have a good, maybe I should have looked before I did this. 01:03:34.950 --> 01:03:35.610 Here maybe? 01:03:35.690 --> 01:03:36.731 No, that's not it either. 01:03:36.791 --> 01:03:38.111 That's microsomal membranes. 01:03:38.892 --> 01:03:40.332 My point is this, okay? 01:03:40.812 --> 01:03:41.413 You have a, 01:03:43.117 --> 01:03:56.070 When you look at this sample and you analyze all the RNA in it, and you put the RNA in a gel with electricity in it, and the voltage is running like this, the voltage is pulling 01:03:57.769 --> 01:04:01.792 it pulls the positively charged molecules to the bottom. 01:04:01.932 --> 01:04:06.995 And because it's a gel, the longer you leave them in, the farther they move. 01:04:07.596 --> 01:04:11.698 And the ones that move the fastest are the smallest RNA molecules. 01:04:11.778 --> 01:04:24.027 And so when you separate out all the RNA from a culture that you create from a bat, you get a smear of RNA and the sub genomic RNA species 01:04:25.047 --> 01:04:31.415 are well characterized and they were all well characterized back in the 80s and I'm sure there's a page in that book that would show what I want to show but I don't want to 01:04:32.225 --> 01:04:34.767 read 50 captions before I find the right one. 01:04:34.827 --> 01:04:46.934 And I also don't want to show you the wrong one and, and use it as an example of what the signal should look like, knowing that it's not the signal that I wanted to show you and then have somebody be able to say that he doesn't know what he's talking about. 01:04:47.575 --> 01:04:58.622 So if you take all the RNA from a coronavirus sample that you put into a cell culture, and you run it on a gel where you use voltage to separate different RNA molecules, 01:04:59.262 --> 01:05:08.891 from each other, at the very top, up here, there should be a band, and that band should be the full virus RNA. 01:05:10.793 --> 01:05:23.104 And the reason why is because the full viral RNA genome is 30,000 bases long, and so that's the longest molecule that would be produced in this thing that you put virus into. 01:05:24.298 --> 01:05:27.919 because all the subgenomic RNAs by definition are much smaller. 01:05:28.419 --> 01:05:45.504 There's going to be an E protein, there's going to be an N protein, there's going to be an S protein, there's going to be some other proteins in here, but there's only going to be one of these, one line up here that corresponds to the actual weight of the genome. 01:05:46.064 --> 01:05:47.665 which would be 30,000 bases. 01:05:47.705 --> 01:05:50.585 And that's the piece of RNA that will move the slowest. 01:05:51.246 --> 01:06:00.728 And what they have found consistently, no matter how you do this experiment, you get a very faint signal up here. 01:06:00.848 --> 01:06:07.611 And a lot of these signals are gigantic, so gigantic that they smear around and they blend into each other. 01:06:07.671 --> 01:06:08.751 And they're really dark. 01:06:09.271 --> 01:06:11.832 And they're huge, giant bands. 01:06:13.078 --> 01:06:14.798 And this one is almost like faint. 01:06:15.238 --> 01:06:16.379 It's like barely visible. 01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:28.661 Because if you just quantify the RNA in an experiment like this, very few, if none, pure, full genomes can be isolated. 01:06:28.721 --> 01:06:30.221 And it doesn't matter how they do it. 01:06:30.281 --> 01:06:38.963 And in fact, right up until the start of the pandemic, when they started looking at this kind of an experiment with coronavirus RNA, 01:06:40.891 --> 01:06:47.852 they could hardly identify the transcripts which would qualify as full genomes. 01:06:47.912 --> 01:07:06.456 Like we're talking about finding hundreds and hundreds of thousands of these subgenomic transcripts and only 11 in one paper and only two in another paper of sequences that would qualify as almost full sequences, but none of them were full sequences. 01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:28.725 And so it doesn't matter if you look at data from the 1980s or you look at data from 2021, you're going to find no evidence for the production of lots of full genomes that would belie a self-replicating pathogen pattern integrity that can go and circulate the globe. 01:07:29.305 --> 01:07:33.566 One of the interesting things about this notion, of course, is that 01:07:34.506 --> 01:07:39.191 Their biology is very contradictive if you think about just this one aspect of it. 01:07:39.991 --> 01:07:47.759 RNA changes every time it goes into an infected person according to their mythology of how RNA works. 01:07:47.939 --> 01:07:52.623 But this RNA goes even faster because it has a fear and cleavage site. 01:07:53.744 --> 01:07:56.807 And it is copying itself very, very well 01:07:57.813 --> 01:08:06.382 because the sequences that we are finding in all of these people after five years are incredibly high fidelity and incredibly similar. 01:08:07.043 --> 01:08:13.910 The rate of change is more equivalent to that of what we might expect for a DNA signal than an RNA signal. 01:08:14.707 --> 01:08:15.467 Nobody cares. 01:08:15.627 --> 01:08:17.428 Nobody sees this as extraordinary. 01:08:18.048 --> 01:08:36.316 And what's really interesting is despite the fact that there are so many people on earth that any phenomenon like this before would have gone into a lot of dead ends by now and made a lot of mistakes and recombinations by now, this signal is purported to still be present in very high fidelity, distinct from all other backgrounds. 01:08:38.220 --> 01:08:42.363 And it's just a claim with no precedence in biology. 01:08:42.664 --> 01:09:04.461 And the only people who are usefully sustaining the technical belief in it are people like Robert Malone and Kevin McKernan and Jessica Rose, the people who have been put in front of us with the requisite knowledge to know and the coordinated agreement to not teach us. 01:09:07.509 --> 01:09:11.832 Because what is a synthetically created version of this? 01:09:11.932 --> 01:09:23.119 If this is the best we can do, then in order to find a full sequence of a virus somewhere, in any of this preparation, it would be very hard to get a lot of this. 01:09:23.939 --> 01:09:25.600 We're not gonna be able to get a lot of that. 01:09:26.761 --> 01:09:30.603 No matter what we do, we won't be able to get a lot of that because this is all we've got. 01:09:31.384 --> 01:09:34.566 Oh, except we can make pieces of that 01:09:35.771 --> 01:09:39.853 synthetically, and then we can use restriction enzymes to sew them together. 01:09:39.993 --> 01:09:47.757 Essentially, we can use synthetic methods to make any DNA we want to. 01:09:47.857 --> 01:09:49.618 And Mike Eden knows that. 01:09:50.459 --> 01:09:51.779 Robert Malone knows that. 01:09:51.839 --> 01:09:53.140 Kevin McKernan knows that. 01:09:53.180 --> 01:09:54.220 They all know that. 01:09:54.341 --> 01:09:58.623 So they also know that they can't make it this way. 01:09:59.103 --> 01:10:00.864 You can't grow it in culture. 01:10:02.425 --> 01:10:04.626 You can't passage it in ferrets. 01:10:06.004 --> 01:10:07.185 It doesn't work like that. 01:10:08.345 --> 01:10:11.967 The only way that you can passage it in Ference is if you start here. 01:10:13.088 --> 01:10:21.532 The only way that you can test it in some of the preparations that they do in vitro in some of these, many of these gain-of-function papers is to start here. 01:10:21.992 --> 01:10:32.718 Any paper that starts with SARS Urbani starts here, where they start with a DNA that they've synthetically manufactured to a high level of purity. 01:10:33.418 --> 01:10:34.939 This is not a high level of purity. 01:10:36.274 --> 01:10:39.195 This is a faint quantity. 01:10:42.297 --> 01:10:49.941 This is a potentially infinite quantity of DNA and an infinite or near perfect purity. 01:10:53.703 --> 01:10:55.384 That's not achievable here. 01:10:55.464 --> 01:11:03.768 That's not even close to possible in any of these traditional methods where you start out with what these virologists call the signal. 01:11:07.406 --> 01:11:13.730 And so any substantial study of this viral phenomenon is starting right here. 01:11:14.611 --> 01:11:22.316 And that's the only message that I was trying to get to these no-virus people as I tried to promote Mark Bailey's work, for example. 01:11:23.017 --> 01:11:29.341 Yes, you're right about viral isolation, purification, and the illusion of viral culture. 01:11:31.022 --> 01:11:36.306 But what you have to understand is that when the illusion of viral culture couldn't be sustained anymore, 01:11:37.355 --> 01:11:40.636 That's where the Human Genome Project and those methodologies came in. 01:11:40.696 --> 01:11:42.737 That's where recombinant DNA came in. 01:11:42.797 --> 01:11:49.558 That's where making recombinant DNA cheaper and cheaper and available more widely and widely makes this possible. 01:11:51.179 --> 01:11:58.241 And once you realize that the manufacturer of synthetic sequences and their application to cell culture is just 01:12:00.498 --> 01:12:01.539 infectious clones. 01:12:01.599 --> 01:12:05.060 It's transformation and transfection in cell culture in animals. 01:12:05.120 --> 01:12:11.783 You can see how the technology of the Human Genome Project is actually being misconstrued as virology. 01:12:11.843 --> 01:12:14.184 They just make stuff and squirt it there. 01:12:14.825 --> 01:12:15.305 That's it. 01:12:16.405 --> 01:12:26.410 And the ineffectiveness of the no virus position effectively worked in concert with people like Kevin McKernan and Robert Malone. 01:12:27.452 --> 01:12:37.354 And that's also why you'll never see Mark Bailey and those five no-virus people get together to do a Kevin McKernan is a Human Genome Project liar. 01:12:39.434 --> 01:12:47.056 And they're never going to get together, all five together, and do an hour on Robert Malone and how he's a DITRA agent and used to sleep on the couch of Dave Hone. 01:12:48.316 --> 01:12:49.756 They're not going to talk about that. 01:12:50.897 --> 01:12:57.038 They're going to get together and say that Jonathan Cooey and his infectious clone idea is just what Kevin McKernan called it. 01:12:57.950 --> 01:12:59.171 Chemtrail retarded. 01:13:04.295 --> 01:13:12.101 That's why none of them will dare say RNA cannot pandemic because it'll be a hat tip to me and it means that all these other things are true. 01:13:14.002 --> 01:13:14.823 Obvious truths. 01:13:18.024 --> 01:13:24.048 So I'm a victim, uh, unwitting, unwitting participant in their show for a very long time. 01:13:24.088 --> 01:13:25.769 That's why I showed that video in the beginning. 01:13:26.529 --> 01:13:27.310 Um, oh my gosh. 01:13:27.490 --> 01:13:29.271 Oh no, we're doing a late basketball today. 01:13:29.311 --> 01:13:30.132 That's perfect timing. 01:13:30.712 --> 01:13:34.514 Um, so this was me on X. I was trapped by them. 01:13:35.875 --> 01:13:39.197 I thought I was fighting Fauci by, by fighting with these guys. 01:13:39.297 --> 01:13:41.699 And I was being, I was being misled. 01:13:42.339 --> 01:13:45.241 I was being baited into being the lab leak guy. 01:13:47.765 --> 01:13:50.086 I was being baited into being the lab leak guy. 01:13:50.126 --> 01:13:51.486 That's what that book is all about. 01:13:51.506 --> 01:14:03.329 They wanted me, they wanted desperately for me to be the lab leak guy at CHD and to be the lab leak guy in the big top tent of health freedom. 01:14:03.989 --> 01:14:04.789 That's what they wanted. 01:14:05.749 --> 01:14:13.031 And unfortunately, or I should say fortunately for my family and for all of us and for our grandchildren, I didn't buy it. 01:14:13.131 --> 01:14:13.791 I didn't see it. 01:14:14.371 --> 01:14:15.172 Saw right through it. 01:14:15.232 --> 01:14:34.245 I tried desperately actually to get Bobby to put it in the book to say that this biology could have been exaggerated by the biosecurity state and and and there are reasons to believe that and here they are but we did this was not the book for it and That's why we're here. 01:14:34.286 --> 01:14:35.246 That's why we're trapped. 01:14:35.286 --> 01:14:38.428 That's why Kevin McKernan already way back. 01:14:38.669 --> 01:14:41.751 This is already a more than a two years ago now and 01:14:43.695 --> 01:14:46.716 is ignoring the preprint of Alina Chan. 01:14:46.736 --> 01:15:07.960 You know, the one that got employed by his former boss, Mark Lander, at the Whitehead Institute in MIT after she put out this preprint that showed that all of the sequences of SARS-CoV-2 are really, really, really, really, really closely related, which is really, really, really, really not possible with RNA. 01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:16.002 And that's why you can see the sequences that she reports from the first SARS seem to evolve a lot more. 01:15:16.102 --> 01:15:16.482 Why? 01:15:16.562 --> 01:15:17.763 Because maybe they did. 01:15:18.583 --> 01:15:37.990 Maybe the first sequences that were found in 2002 were a real release, a real release of a transfection, a synthetically created DNA or RNA, and a deployment of it in China just to see how far it would go and how long it would be detectable. 01:15:38.803 --> 01:15:42.847 How far could they follow it around the world if they told everybody that something was spreading? 01:15:43.268 --> 01:15:53.438 And then this was the data that Helena Chan maybe naively walked into at the beginning of the pandemic and presented, and this paper's never been published in Cell or Science. 01:15:56.100 --> 01:15:57.402 But, but. 01:16:02.071 --> 01:16:05.520 Alina Chan was able to cooperate with a non-American. 01:16:05.962 --> 01:16:08.328 I do believe that Matt Ridley is not American. 01:16:08.388 --> 01:16:10.835 She was able to collaborate with a foreigner on a book. 01:16:12.455 --> 01:16:19.601 Her paper showing that SARS-CoV-2 is not evolving like a natural RNA virus is not published. 01:16:20.502 --> 01:16:21.963 I did two bike rides about this. 01:16:22.043 --> 01:16:23.484 I tried to get in touch with her in 2020. 01:16:23.544 --> 01:16:25.046 This is submitted in May of 2020. 01:16:25.326 --> 01:16:31.311 You know, all those videos that we just watched at the beginning, this, this is what she got out of it. 01:16:31.591 --> 01:16:37.256 And an appointment at Kevin McKernan's boss's institute, the Whitehead Institute. 01:16:37.276 --> 01:16:38.537 She's just a scientist now. 01:16:40.285 --> 01:16:52.691 gets interviewed by the New York Times and the PBS News Hour and is on, of course, somewhere like X. You know, if you go look back at her role on X was extraordinary. 01:16:52.771 --> 01:16:59.235 She had these long threads explaining the lab leak with all kinds of funny gifs and stuff. 01:16:59.655 --> 01:17:09.920 She was like setting the bar very high for people who were gonna write instructional threads or educational threads on Twitter. 01:17:12.403 --> 01:17:18.225 And so you can see Alina Chan as being probably employed by Elon Musk and Peter Thiel. 01:17:19.166 --> 01:17:28.289 And so it's not too hard to imagine that this guy is also working for them as a consultant or an advisor because he knows all the ins and outs of this mythology. 01:17:28.309 --> 01:17:40.734 He knows exactly where the giant exaggerations are and where the giant shortcomings are of the model of genes and the model of determinants, heredity, 01:17:41.946 --> 01:17:44.028 and how it all just comes down to sequences. 01:17:44.809 --> 01:17:45.769 And he's the man. 01:17:48.372 --> 01:17:52.876 And these things are hilarious, how he talks or tries to talk about this stuff. 01:17:52.916 --> 01:18:06.527 He's actually, you can read it here, he's throwing softballs that are designed to make it seem like the idea that synthetic DNA and RNA applied to cell culture is virology is nuts. 01:18:07.526 --> 01:18:13.272 or that I'm trying to say that that means that they released it everywhere, so he's nuts. 01:18:13.672 --> 01:18:15.294 They just put clones everywhere. 01:18:15.334 --> 01:18:17.416 That's not what I've ever said to him. 01:18:18.277 --> 01:18:19.799 I didn't say that to him on the St. 01:18:19.839 --> 01:18:21.841 Patrick's Day presentation. 01:18:21.881 --> 01:18:23.963 I've never said it in any private conversation. 01:18:24.003 --> 01:18:28.688 I never said it to the no virus people when I said infectious clones were an illusion. 01:18:30.262 --> 01:18:33.543 or that they could have been used to create the illusion of the pandemic. 01:18:33.563 --> 01:18:52.008 That just means that if you take that DNA and smear it on a table and then you innocently test the table or innocently test the cruise ship, you will find that sequence and it will be very, very high fidelity signal that all the technology that Kevin McKernan has invented will pull that thing right up. 01:18:58.097 --> 01:19:01.220 And so it's absurd what has been going on. 01:19:01.300 --> 01:19:09.689 Here, Robert Malone actually promoted a substack of Kevin McKernan, which is essentially an admission that they're on the same team. 01:19:09.750 --> 01:19:14.294 And I've come to suspect that for a long time, that ArcMedic was also on his team. 01:19:14.395 --> 01:19:19.200 ArcMedic is Jiki and Jikiki and all these mice that are full of shit. 01:19:20.435 --> 01:19:31.960 They're all coordinating with these American traders to assure that this illusion is sustained, the illusion of a novel virus that circulated the globe, that lockdown protected Australia from. 01:19:33.821 --> 01:19:46.366 And Jicky Archmedic is now the guy who is saying that there are transfection agents inside of the shots that are causing the contaminant DNA to get into the nucleus of cells. 01:19:47.398 --> 01:20:01.879 Not that the lipid nanoparticle preparation with RNA alone is a transfection, but inside of the COVID shot is a transfection agent, which has an interactive effect with the DNA contamination. 01:20:02.780 --> 01:20:03.461 Stop lying! 01:20:05.100 --> 01:20:22.104 And of course, Jessica Rose, also promoted by these people, also a very limited spectrum girl on the podcast with John Bodwin and Kevin McKernan and Stephanie Seneff and myself on St. 01:20:22.124 --> 01:20:30.346 Patrick's Day 2023, she can be heard saying that, boy, that idea of the clones thing that you said the other day is just extraordinary. 01:20:30.426 --> 01:20:32.166 It kept me up all night. 01:20:33.689 --> 01:20:35.369 possible that she was telling the truth. 01:20:36.190 --> 01:20:44.871 It's possible that she was a willing participant in what is called in the military circles the look-away doctrine. 01:20:45.832 --> 01:20:47.932 You don't need to tell me what's behind that curtain. 01:20:47.952 --> 01:20:49.872 You don't need to tell me how bad this is. 01:20:49.992 --> 01:20:55.374 I'll just go discuss VAERS and surf on three continents while this all goes on. 01:20:56.154 --> 01:20:56.814 I'm fine with that. 01:20:56.874 --> 01:20:57.214 It's cool. 01:20:59.488 --> 01:21:03.431 And maybe at some point she realized, holy cow, I mean, Jay, that idea is nuts. 01:21:03.671 --> 01:21:07.333 If that's the case, then maybe I facilitated something. 01:21:07.393 --> 01:21:09.715 Oh yeah, you better shut up. 01:21:10.075 --> 01:21:16.239 Your very lucrative substack job will disappear very quick if you actually speak out. 01:21:19.721 --> 01:21:21.122 And that's why we got there. 01:21:21.182 --> 01:21:29.948 That's what this whole article was about in The Defender when Alex Washburn's paper came out, and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:21:29.988 --> 01:21:38.995 woke me up in the middle of the night that we have to write this paper, and we have to teach everybody that these restriction enzyme sites are exactly what you predicted. 01:21:41.513 --> 01:21:44.095 But we couldn't put in there that they don't spread around the world. 01:21:44.115 --> 01:21:46.236 We couldn't put in there that RNA cannot pandemic. 01:21:46.276 --> 01:21:47.557 That's not what we were going to put in there. 01:21:47.577 --> 01:21:49.958 We were going to put in there that it was a lab leak, and that's what we did. 01:21:51.539 --> 01:22:06.429 And this paper, this guy, Alex Washburn, who says that he found the no-see-um technique in the sequence, you don't think Kevin McKernan could have looked for restriction enzyme sites in the sequence of the virus before this? 01:22:07.910 --> 01:22:14.954 You don't think Kevin McKernan is aware of restriction enzymes and how they're used to make large DNA assemblies? 01:22:14.994 --> 01:22:24.859 You don't think Mike Yeadon is aware that they use restriction enzymes to assemble DNA sequences to create big monoclonal antibodies? 01:22:28.161 --> 01:22:34.584 You don't think that Kevin McKernan knows that the Human Genome Project really was just a series of restriction enzyme maps? 01:22:37.910 --> 01:22:38.550 Of course he does. 01:22:39.951 --> 01:22:42.151 They were counting on the fact that I wouldn't figure it out. 01:22:42.191 --> 01:22:54.155 They were counting on the fact that I would just rely on what I already understood in molecular biology without thinking about it in the context of what I already knew about the sacred irreducible complexity of biology. 01:22:55.715 --> 01:22:58.276 The biology that my grandmother taught me when I was a birder. 01:23:04.332 --> 01:23:06.974 And that's why you see these people working together. 01:23:07.214 --> 01:23:18.783 That's why they all coordinatedly tried to make this diffuse proposal real again, that the diffuse proposal proposed that they would stitch together things and add fear and cleavage sites. 01:23:18.984 --> 01:23:24.368 And Alex Washburn has found that it looks like they stitched together things and there's a fear and cleavage site. 01:23:27.298 --> 01:23:28.779 And so this was in January of 2024. 01:23:29.700 --> 01:23:31.161 We are now in October of 2024. 01:23:32.562 --> 01:23:35.965 And this whole thing here has circulated all the way to the top again. 01:23:37.046 --> 01:23:43.831 And here is the actual Substack post where you can see that the seeding clone hypothesis is Chemtrail retarded. 01:23:44.612 --> 01:23:47.014 Nobody said seeding clones except for him. 01:23:54.980 --> 01:23:55.941 I have never said that. 01:24:10.749 --> 01:24:15.971 And so the Scooby-Doo nonsense, the trap that we are in, I think it's important that we keep focused. 01:24:16.172 --> 01:24:25.436 Four days ago, there was a video that was a four-part panel series put forth by Stanford University. 01:24:27.296 --> 01:24:29.017 Why are you not showing me the videos? 01:24:31.198 --> 01:24:42.444 Stanford University is where my friend Jay Bhattacharya is still a faculty member despite supposedly being censored at the start of the pandemic about the Great Barrington Declaration. 01:24:44.425 --> 01:24:45.466 Why is this not working? 01:24:51.014 --> 01:25:03.721 And the Great Barrington Declaration, of course, was this group of people, a Dutch guy by the name of Martin, Martin, man, why can't I think of his name? 01:25:03.941 --> 01:25:09.524 And Jay Bhattacharya and a lady from Oxford, Gupta is her last name. 01:25:09.584 --> 01:25:12.786 And so had to be, I don't know why this is not working. 01:25:12.846 --> 01:25:13.867 What's going on here? 01:25:20.657 --> 01:25:21.658 Well, I can do it this way. 01:25:21.838 --> 01:25:23.679 So the pandemic opening remarks. 01:25:24.060 --> 01:25:27.902 Thank you for coming to this the Stanford Conference on Pandemic Management. 01:25:28.103 --> 01:25:32.686 I am delighted to introduce President John Levin, who's going to give the opening remarks. 01:25:33.006 --> 01:25:37.670 And I just very briefly, I'm so grateful to each and every one of you that's come. 01:25:38.168 --> 01:25:44.692 This is going to be an amazing event where we are going to talk to each other in a civil way and learn from each other. 01:25:44.812 --> 01:25:47.354 And it is going to be an incredible, incredible day. 01:25:47.874 --> 01:25:53.557 That's one of the things that Jay has said to me a lot of the times, you know, I've just got to take it easy and stop calling people out. 01:25:53.658 --> 01:25:56.900 I got to stop calling out Robert Malone and everything would be fine. 01:25:57.420 --> 01:25:59.541 He said that a number of times to me in person. 01:25:59.581 --> 01:26:01.883 We've met several times in the last three years. 01:26:02.843 --> 01:26:04.104 thanks to a mutual friend. 01:26:04.224 --> 01:26:19.451 I have to say that I'm quite disappointed because Jay has had several biologists on his Illusion of Consensus podcast, but in person he tells me that what I do is brilliant, but he can't 01:26:20.071 --> 01:26:22.072 he can't evaluate my biology. 01:26:22.612 --> 01:26:26.294 And so that's, that's disappointing to me because I don't think I'm that bad of a teacher. 01:26:27.194 --> 01:26:30.375 And here he's going to introduce the president of the university. 01:26:30.575 --> 01:26:39.079 And I'm just going to let it go for a second because I want to get, want you to get a feel for this fake it till you make it, because that's what this guy is doing. 01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:40.319 He's probably been faking it. 01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:45.762 He thinks he's made it, but it's still very clear that he's faking it and has never made it. 01:26:47.341 --> 01:27:01.593 And yes, one of the previous panels that I chose not to watch had Marty Macri and also this Indian lady with the big eyes, the two people that have been on 01:27:03.914 --> 01:27:08.696 ZDoggMD and Vinye Prasad's YouTube channels quite a bit. 01:27:09.697 --> 01:27:11.937 And so I couldn't do that panel. 01:27:11.978 --> 01:27:15.699 But the panel that we're going to watch today has Alex Washburn on it. 01:27:15.819 --> 01:27:22.742 And that is the guy who is one of the authors on that paper that I was asked to write a 01:27:24.255 --> 01:27:27.636 article for the Defender about with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:27:27.736 --> 01:27:31.917 back in the beginning of I guess what would be this year. 01:27:31.937 --> 01:27:35.278 I have to look again now, wait, where did that come in? 01:27:37.759 --> 01:27:43.240 That paper, that was published 10, 29, 22, sorry. 01:27:43.300 --> 01:27:52.103 So I wrote that article in the Defender almost a year and one month before 01:27:53.593 --> 01:28:04.939 Robert Malone is cross-promoting Kevin McKernan and Kevin McKernan is finally arguing with me about the providence of whatever I've been saying. 01:28:05.019 --> 01:28:17.145 So the timeline is really, really curious here because already back then in October of 2022, I could articulate what it was that I thought the diffuse proposal was. 01:28:18.442 --> 01:28:26.071 And so already in that part of that article, of course, I had just been, I've only been working for him for about four or five months on this book. 01:28:26.091 --> 01:28:27.132 And so I'm dead in. 01:28:27.773 --> 01:28:34.141 I'm totally into the idea that we are, we are exposing it and I am on the best team to be exposing it. 01:28:36.738 --> 01:28:41.764 And so I need you to see that at some point in time they thought they had me. 01:28:41.984 --> 01:28:43.626 They thought they had me in there. 01:28:44.027 --> 01:28:53.338 And while I was still working for Robert F. Kennedy Jr., I pulled my own head out and in the process of trying to teach Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:28:54.918 --> 01:29:07.447 that transfection and transformation using synthetic DNA and RNA is all virology really is, especially gain-of-function virology, that's when my whole world started to fall apart. 01:29:07.487 --> 01:29:19.935 And when I started to point to Robert Malone as somebody who I thought was central to sustaining this mythology is when Merrill Nash decided, or sorry, Mary Holland decided to fire me at the end of 2023. 01:29:22.776 --> 01:29:26.939 So I wanna put into context this guy that is about to come up here. 01:29:27.019 --> 01:29:31.543 So I'm just gonna get over here and escape out of this for a little bit. 01:29:31.623 --> 01:29:34.746 Let me just size this different so I can control this better. 01:29:35.727 --> 01:29:38.969 So back here, this is the guy he's about to introduce, Jonathan Levin. 01:29:39.009 --> 01:29:41.351 He is an American economist. 01:29:41.892 --> 01:29:45.515 He's the president of Stanford University, used to be the president of the business school. 01:29:46.796 --> 01:29:49.418 He went to Stanford, then he went to Oxford, 01:29:51.533 --> 01:29:52.914 Then he went to MIT. 01:29:53.914 --> 01:29:55.095 Then he went to Yale. 01:29:57.477 --> 01:30:01.619 And he's been on the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology. 01:30:01.659 --> 01:30:07.622 Now, the guy that preceded him is Richard Saller. 01:30:08.083 --> 01:30:12.826 And Richard Saller was an interim president for only a little while. 01:30:12.886 --> 01:30:18.489 And before him was a guy by the name of Mark Trevor Tessier Levine. 01:30:20.737 --> 01:30:28.086 And this guy used to be the chief scientific officer at Genentech, which is a pretty significant company. 01:30:29.708 --> 01:30:37.297 And there was some fabricating of results in articles between 2001 and 2008. 01:30:41.658 --> 01:30:46.764 So anyway, he was president of the Rockefeller University, which is also not a good thing. 01:30:48.166 --> 01:30:50.849 And so you can see very clearly here what we have. 01:30:52.574 --> 01:30:57.537 This guy who you're about to see fake it until he makes it is not going to fake it very well. 01:30:58.097 --> 01:31:00.839 He's going to be pretty awkward, and he's going to sound like a buffoon. 01:31:01.499 --> 01:31:08.624 But that's the context in which we find ourselves, where we're going to be really nice to each other, and we're not going to argue. 01:31:08.644 --> 01:31:14.227 We're going to be very respectful and essentially agree to cover up the lack of principles that all of us have. 01:31:15.388 --> 01:31:16.188 That's what this is. 01:31:16.769 --> 01:31:20.271 And I'm sorry, but I'm very disappointed in the guy that 01:31:21.280 --> 01:31:24.642 that calls himself my friend named Jay Bhattacharya. 01:31:24.802 --> 01:31:26.522 President Levin, thank you for coming. 01:31:26.983 --> 01:31:27.623 Thank you for talking. 01:31:29.224 --> 01:31:30.564 Please, a round of applause. 01:31:36.887 --> 01:31:38.888 Okay, good morning and welcome to everyone. 01:31:38.908 --> 01:31:40.989 I appreciate the opportunity to be here. 01:31:43.719 --> 01:31:45.840 I want to share something with you. 01:31:45.900 --> 01:31:48.641 When I first pulled this video up, let me get my head out of the way. 01:31:49.081 --> 01:31:52.883 I thought this woman was Jill Glasspool Malone. 01:31:53.343 --> 01:31:58.966 So if you go all the way back to the beginning of the video and you watch it right from the beginning, you can see this. 01:31:59.046 --> 01:32:02.307 I thought that was Jill Glasspool Malone, but it's not Jill Glasspool Malone. 01:32:02.327 --> 01:32:03.268 I'm pretty sure it's not. 01:32:03.328 --> 01:32:07.710 She's a lot younger and she's more petite in her build. 01:32:08.630 --> 01:32:09.911 But anyway, it's just very funny. 01:32:10.271 --> 01:32:12.252 This lady right here, I was freaking out. 01:32:12.292 --> 01:32:15.514 For a little while, I was like, ah, running around the house. 01:32:15.574 --> 01:32:16.835 But no, it's really not. 01:32:16.895 --> 01:32:17.675 I don't think so. 01:32:17.755 --> 01:32:18.556 Welcome to everyone. 01:32:18.596 --> 01:32:20.677 I appreciate the opportunity to be here. 01:32:21.818 --> 01:32:26.480 Now, you might wonder, why is John Levin opening this conference on pandemic policy? 01:32:28.541 --> 01:32:31.503 You might say, John is not a public health expert. 01:32:32.472 --> 01:32:36.894 And of course, I might say, well, I did run a business school during the COVID pandemic. 01:32:37.335 --> 01:32:42.717 So I do have some experience making COVID policy decisions. 01:32:44.258 --> 01:32:56.865 And they also say that- This guy reminds me of the former prime minister of the Netherlands, who has just recently taken over as the head of NATO, who kind of already understands that he's in 01:32:57.822 --> 01:33:02.603 And he doesn't need to maintain any illusion anymore because he knows his friends have his back. 01:33:02.663 --> 01:33:10.365 And so he's just talking casual because he thinks the vast majority of people that are, he knows who's in on it and he knows who's not. 01:33:11.565 --> 01:33:14.386 And his comfort level reveals something extraordinary. 01:33:15.066 --> 01:33:17.126 Making mistakes is the best way to learn. 01:33:17.906 --> 01:33:25.628 And so I can tell you that I have at least a thousand Stanford MBAs who will tell you that by that measure, I'm basically a world expert. 01:33:27.439 --> 01:33:29.501 But actually that's not why I'm here. 01:33:31.503 --> 01:33:48.777 When I was invited to participate in this event a few months ago, it was with the understanding that the goal would be to bring together people with different perspectives and engage in a day of discussion and in that way try to repair some of the rifts that opened during COVID. 01:33:49.485 --> 01:33:51.767 And that struck me as a valuable goal. 01:33:52.047 --> 01:33:56.872 And in fact, the sort of goal we should aim for at Stanford. 01:33:57.192 --> 01:34:00.455 And so I agreed to give a few remarks to that effect. 01:34:01.496 --> 01:34:09.664 And what followed over the last two months was actually, was in many ways, somewhat disappointing. 01:34:11.844 --> 01:34:21.747 Because when I was invited, I asked around and indeed the organizers were in discussions with a whole array of people with quite different views who were likely to speak. 01:34:22.528 --> 01:34:30.611 But it proved not so straightforward to execute on that agenda. 01:34:31.147 --> 01:34:33.468 Some of the invitees weren't able to make it. 01:34:33.608 --> 01:34:35.349 Some of them withdrew. 01:34:35.509 --> 01:34:44.253 Some of them didn't want to participate in an event with other speakers whose views or behaviors they claimed were attacking or abhorrent. 01:34:45.313 --> 01:34:57.399 And when the initial agenda, a partial agenda was posted, it was immediately perceived as one-sided, and I'm sure you all noticed, became the subject of op-eds and social media attacks. 01:34:58.377 --> 01:35:17.817 And in a sense, that was ironic because instead of repairing rifts as was intended, and perhaps spurring some fresh thinking, that process seemed to reopen and revisit a lot of old and existing divisions. 01:35:18.976 --> 01:35:20.738 I didn't mean for you to see any more than that. 01:35:21.359 --> 01:35:25.864 I just wanted you to see that this guy seems to be kind of faking it until he makes it. 01:35:25.884 --> 01:35:27.045 He doesn't seem very bright. 01:35:27.065 --> 01:35:28.006 He's not very sharp. 01:35:28.727 --> 01:35:34.794 As a president of the university, he's not taking very seriously this idea of opening a conference if he's that 01:35:35.535 --> 01:35:37.676 kind of lackadaisical and misspoken. 01:35:37.716 --> 01:35:53.565 I mean it's just disturbing right now to me how the veneer of academia is shattering so quickly when you have somebody like Jay Bhattacharya who claims to have been censored very early on and be very angry about it 01:35:54.105 --> 01:36:04.433 start a conference like this pretending as if there's no reckoning to occur, as if there were no crimes committed, or no mistakes made, or no overreaching, or no exaggerating. 01:36:04.473 --> 01:36:08.656 We should just be nice, because we all had good intentions from the start. 01:36:09.416 --> 01:36:10.818 Stop lying! 01:36:11.178 --> 01:36:12.699 It drives me bananas. 01:36:12.979 --> 01:36:17.162 And so that's what I do my show for. 01:36:17.182 --> 01:36:22.086 I have my own show, so I can talk about whatever I want to talk about and get mad whatever I want to talk about. 01:36:22.126 --> 01:36:23.427 So I'm going to get mad about that. 01:36:23.660 --> 01:36:33.568 There's a familiar theme today that we need to understand what happened so that going forward, we'll be better prepared. 01:36:34.749 --> 01:36:40.194 And this last panel is called COVID-19 and the regulation of virology. 01:36:40.994 --> 01:36:48.140 We all witnessed the toll that COVID took on the global community and going forward, we will want to be sure that we're not solving for the wrong problem. 01:36:49.141 --> 01:36:51.743 This panel will be moderated by Jan Jekielek, 01:36:52.202 --> 01:36:54.463 and Mr. Yakelik is Senior Editor of the Epoch Times. 01:36:54.743 --> 01:37:13.289 Jan Yakelik is going to, Jan Yakelik, Jan Yakelik of the Epoch Times is going to chair a health policy panel number four at Stanford University. 01:37:17.881 --> 01:37:19.102 I mean, I don't even know what to say. 01:37:20.382 --> 01:37:28.847 That guy had Sasha Latupova on his little podcast and called her an American thought leader. 01:37:30.607 --> 01:37:37.591 He did a whole series of episodes about Robert Malone on his farm. 01:37:37.991 --> 01:37:38.772 Jan Jekielek. 01:37:42.566 --> 01:37:48.710 is definitely a traitor if he's an American, and he's definitely a foreign meddler if he's a foreigner. 01:37:49.810 --> 01:37:51.211 There can be no doubt. 01:37:51.572 --> 01:38:00.357 And so the idea that he's on a panel at Stanford University, he better be American because otherwise this is despicable. 01:38:02.118 --> 01:38:10.343 I'm tired of seeing panels of foreigners speaking in front of my Senate, nevermind in front of a Senator from my home state of Wisconsin. 01:38:13.126 --> 01:38:18.229 American Thought Leaders, where he engages in deep conversations that challenge grand narratives. 01:38:18.709 --> 01:38:19.049 Thank you. 01:38:21.070 --> 01:38:31.736 Well, it's an incredible honor to be able to moderate this extremely distinguished panel on a very, well, what's been in our country, I think around the world, a very contentious issue, right? 01:38:31.796 --> 01:38:33.217 What is the origin of COVID-19? 01:38:33.237 --> 01:38:37.979 But then there's also this other piece, which is, how do we need to regulate virology? 01:38:38.099 --> 01:38:39.680 What is the origin of 01:38:41.992 --> 01:38:45.573 of SARS-CoV-2 presumes a SARS-CoV-2. 01:38:46.133 --> 01:38:50.454 If you argue with these people, you accept the premise of the argument. 01:38:50.474 --> 01:39:04.278 And the premise of the argument is that there is something whose origin requires debate, whose origin is a mystery that needs to be solved, whose origin was something that people wanted to cover up. 01:39:04.418 --> 01:39:08.199 And these are all, stop lying, in general. 01:39:08.219 --> 01:39:09.460 And they're actually, these are two parts. 01:39:10.489 --> 01:39:20.377 The way that the question of this panel is being posed, you know, if it is indeed a zoonotic origin, if it is indeed a natural origin, you know, maybe we need to look at how to minimize these contacts of wildlife with human beings, right? 01:39:20.657 --> 01:39:26.322 Or if it's a lab origin, well, then we really need to regulate the sort of the risky types of experimentation, what's often called gain of function. 01:39:27.182 --> 01:39:32.406 I guess the question I want to pose is, is the premise correct in the first place, right? 01:39:33.047 --> 01:39:37.030 Are both these things something that we need to do, or are both these things something that we don't need to do, irrespective of the answer? 01:39:37.734 --> 01:39:38.575 So we're going to start. 01:39:38.595 --> 01:39:40.237 I'm going to do a super brief introduction. 01:39:40.578 --> 01:39:42.200 Irrespective of the answer? 01:39:42.300 --> 01:39:42.540 What? 01:39:42.740 --> 01:39:44.523 What is he saying that we need to debate? 01:39:44.583 --> 01:39:44.843 What? 01:39:45.884 --> 01:39:51.972 Again, if you listen carefully, what you will see is the construction of a limited spectrum of debate. 01:39:52.452 --> 01:39:54.355 It's like a metal cage of thought. 01:39:55.546 --> 01:40:17.843 And now Alex Washburn and Miss Gupta and the Bryce Nichols guy, they're all gonna get out a motorcycle inside of this metal cage and they're all gonna ride around in concentric circles chasing each other and they're gonna make a lot of noise and there might even be fire coming out of their exhaust pipes, but they're never gonna leave that cage. 01:40:18.523 --> 01:40:20.024 And that cage is what? 01:40:20.084 --> 01:40:23.247 It is the debate about whether it's a zoonosis or a lab leak. 01:40:24.775 --> 01:40:30.537 and all the biology and all the useful questions that would get us out are not gonna be questions. 01:40:30.557 --> 01:40:31.217 We're just gonna hear. 01:40:35.258 --> 01:40:44.440 Motorcycles going around in circles and people cheering and maybe the cage will even be rotated around on a big arm so that it goes up and down and it gets even more dramatic. 01:40:47.621 --> 01:40:53.703 Each panel member here before they go into their five minute introduction because I think I could spend the whole panel basically explaining 01:40:53.939 --> 01:40:55.780 all their achievements throughout their careers. 01:40:56.141 --> 01:40:58.822 So let's start with Alex Washburn. 01:40:58.902 --> 01:41:01.504 Alex Washburn is the scientific consultant at Solvay Analytics LLC. 01:41:02.085 --> 01:41:06.868 And also, if I may editorialize a tiny bit, has a vast depth of knowledge on this issue of origins. 01:41:07.068 --> 01:41:09.510 Vast depth of knowledge. 01:41:09.610 --> 01:41:13.272 He has a vast depth of knowledge. 01:41:13.312 --> 01:41:21.558 How can anybody have a vast depth of knowledge about something that's almost intractable in a laboratory without synthetic DNA or RNA? 01:41:24.835 --> 01:41:25.595 Stop lying! 01:41:26.355 --> 01:41:27.956 He's been thinking about it since the very beginning. 01:41:28.376 --> 01:41:32.057 He's been thinking about it since the very beginning. 01:41:32.377 --> 01:41:33.137 Stop lying! 01:41:33.837 --> 01:41:34.057 Please. 01:41:34.438 --> 01:41:36.638 Thank you, Jan, and thank you, Jay and Sanford, for having us all here. 01:41:37.738 --> 01:41:38.919 Yeah, I have a checkered past. 01:41:39.199 --> 01:41:45.921 I'm a mathematician and a biologist, and yeah, they like to say that... Oh, my gosh, does that already not set off a red flag? 01:41:45.961 --> 01:41:50.362 If you've been following Housatonic Live and the stuff that he's been looking at with regard to 01:41:50.922 --> 01:42:16.446 the history of the thinking about genes and the thinking that preceded genes and their identification or supposed identification, this codifying of this knowledge, this assumption that DNA is a plan for the organism, that it's all determinately held inside of this DNA code and we're just not sophisticated enough to read it. 01:42:16.966 --> 01:42:45.095 This is a biologist, like many, many, many, many, many biologists out there, fully trapped inside of that, but worse, believes in this idea that because of that, because there is a physical, chemical explanation for everything that we just haven't become sophisticated enough to understand, that mathematics can be used to project and to postulate and to model 01:42:46.175 --> 01:42:49.378 conditions inside of this understanding. 01:42:50.118 --> 01:43:06.272 And that is an illusion, a very enticing illusion, that essentially can be traced back to this crossover between the Manhattan Project and nuclear thinking and physics thinking and chemistry thinking back in that time. 01:43:06.912 --> 01:43:17.741 the crossover of those people into biology and their import of their basic method of thinking, their basic method of analysis and the basic assumptions that they make about the natural world. 01:43:18.905 --> 01:43:34.593 And so by saying he's a mathematician and a biologist, he is unwittingly admitting that he is fully bamboozled by this idea that with enough computing power and enough measurements, we will eventually get to be able to predict the weather and predict the outcome. 01:43:34.633 --> 01:43:38.335 If we just have a sequence, we can know what the animal is and how it'll come out. 01:43:38.375 --> 01:43:42.257 The problem with being a mathematical biologist is the mathematicians think you've gone soft and the biologists think you've gone crazy. 01:43:43.683 --> 01:43:50.788 Before, you know, I've done a bunch of things, but I think most relevant to this panel is in 2017, I was working on a DARPA grant to study pathogen spillover from bats to people. 01:43:51.208 --> 01:43:57.012 Oh, so he was working on a DARPA grant to study the spillover of pathogens from bats to people. 01:44:00.855 --> 01:44:09.841 I would say in a country of 350 million with quite a few qualified biologists, we don't need this guy explaining anything to us at this point, do we? 01:44:11.002 --> 01:44:11.242 Do we? 01:44:12.799 --> 01:44:15.942 And my work was specifically focused on outbreak forecasting and viral origins. 01:44:16.703 --> 01:44:22.388 So before it was cool, I was looking into the origins of filoviruses and forecast about... Before it was cool, does that mean you weren't getting paid? 01:44:22.408 --> 01:44:28.113 ...Hanipa virus outbreaks and things like that. 01:44:28.653 --> 01:44:36.120 And then during the pandemic, I got involved in a lot of the other kind of contentious topics of outbreak forecasting, public health policy, helped a hedge fund short the market in February of 2020, and other kind of obvious... 01:44:37.608 --> 01:44:43.735 He helped a hedge fund short the market in 2020, so he's really financially strapped now too, I guess, huh? 01:44:43.775 --> 01:44:44.416 Viral origins. 01:44:45.176 --> 01:44:49.561 So before it was cool, I was looking into the origins of filoviruses and forecasts about Hanipa virus outbreaks and things like that. 01:44:50.102 --> 01:44:58.371 And then during the pandemic, got involved in a lot of the other kind of contentious topics of outbreak forecasting, public health policy, helped a hedge fund short the market in February of 2020, and other kind of oddities and things like that. 01:45:00.478 --> 01:45:12.428 At the end of all that odyssey of outbreak forecasting and stuff like that, I got back to the questions of where did this virus come from, and drew on this work from a DARPA PREEMP team that I was working with on the methods we use for forecasting the likelihood of a jump-capable quasi-species in the language of that call. 01:45:12.768 --> 01:45:18.233 And I found out that the Diffuse Grant is one of the main pieces of the lab origin theory, and it traces back to the same call that I was working on back in 2018, 2019, 2020. 01:45:18.733 --> 01:45:19.634 So yeah. 01:45:20.835 --> 01:45:23.217 So he was working on the same grant call. 01:45:23.257 --> 01:45:25.459 What a convenient story for him, huh? 01:45:26.647 --> 01:45:33.533 and quasi-species and all this other shit that I was talking about before anybody else and being told that it was nonsense. 01:45:34.494 --> 01:45:48.688 But the quasi-species is how I got to the point where I realized Robert Malone actually admitted it, that this RNA, this RNA and subgenomic RNA, these signals that went back all the way back to the old days, these signals are all real. 01:45:49.977 --> 01:45:54.518 that the manufacture of whatever's being manufactured here is a very low-fidelity process. 01:45:54.558 --> 01:45:57.059 The vast majority of what is processed is nonsense. 01:45:57.919 --> 01:46:00.760 Very few full, competent genomes are produced. 01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:05.181 That's what Robert Malone said on a podcast with a blonde English woman in 2021. 01:46:06.301 --> 01:46:07.141 I've got the recording. 01:46:09.022 --> 01:46:11.282 But that describes the quasi-species. 01:46:11.522 --> 01:46:18.864 This RNA thing, it describes the quasi-species that they don't want you to understand for the phenomenon that it is. 01:46:20.868 --> 01:46:35.671 which is that these phenomenon are incredibly low fidelity and everything that they claim about them is an exaggeration, including their basic understanding of the role that they play in our biology and the biology of other animals and plants and whatever. 01:46:36.744 --> 01:46:56.882 It's hilarious at this point that they are doubling and tripling down on these people and then they have these resumes that just should disqualify them as any whistleblower for the like Robert Malone could come out and say that he I worked for Ditra and uh, you know, I I got a call from a CIA agent and so and 01:46:57.322 --> 01:47:12.312 in January and then I spun my team up and the next thing you know I got ivermectin and silicoxib and famotidine and remdesivir on my radar because that's just how it works here when we're on the farm we do work and when we get the call we answer it. 01:47:18.905 --> 01:47:21.746 diving into the details and thinking about the methodologies of the wildlife virology. 01:47:21.886 --> 01:47:27.109 And we had this big operation catching bats in Africa and Asia and Australia and shipping samples across borders and then processing them in the lab. 01:47:27.949 --> 01:47:34.432 And from that lens, I entered the origins question and looked into whether or not the virus has any methodologies of the wildlife virology. 01:47:34.592 --> 01:47:39.754 And we had this big operation catching bats in Africa and Asia and Australia and shipping samples across borders and then processing them in the lab. 01:47:40.574 --> 01:47:43.876 And from that- And when you process them in the lab, what does he mean? 01:47:45.357 --> 01:47:46.097 Sequence them. 01:47:48.786 --> 01:47:51.827 He's taking samples and he is sequencing them. 01:47:51.887 --> 01:47:53.967 Those sequences cannot be studied. 01:47:54.387 --> 01:47:55.628 They can't be cultured. 01:47:56.508 --> 01:47:57.708 I've shown you that already. 01:47:57.748 --> 01:48:01.529 We know that from all of the work that Mark Bailey has done. 01:48:01.649 --> 01:48:15.312 All the work that Stefan Lanka has done has shown that these culture methods, these purifications, these electron micrographs, they don't show the high fidelity biology that these people claim. 01:48:17.062 --> 01:48:33.051 And so now, is he aware of the fact that processing it in the lab is sequencing and that sequencing, if done malevolently or without good intentions, you could create all kinds of illusions, you know, like maybe metabiota and Nathan Wolf did? 01:48:34.531 --> 01:48:35.772 Is he aware of that or not? 01:48:35.812 --> 01:48:37.513 Because it doesn't seem like he's aware of it. 01:48:37.553 --> 01:48:46.218 He thinks that virology is very high fidelity science and that you get these signals in the wild and then you make them in a laboratory and study them. 01:48:47.079 --> 01:48:57.242 He's not aware of this huge gap between what can be done with the natural sample and what is done with synthetic DNA and RNA in cell culture. 01:49:00.303 --> 01:49:06.565 And unfortunately, Mark Bailey hasn't been able to get where I'm going today and have been here for so long now. 01:49:06.726 --> 01:49:07.966 It's just crazy to me. 01:49:08.902 --> 01:49:24.663 And I think that indicates that Mark Bailey and Sam Bailey are actually on this team of people that is out there in the internet to make sure that anybody who asks the right questions is never going to get the answer that will free their grandchildren with knowledge. 01:49:25.899 --> 01:49:29.741 You cannot escape this trap by just not participating. 01:49:30.521 --> 01:49:37.065 In order for your grandchildren to escape this trap, it must be common knowledge that they lied to us for a generation. 01:49:37.485 --> 01:49:41.547 It must be common knowledge that they have been experimenting on us for a generation. 01:49:41.947 --> 01:49:46.409 It must be common knowledge that we have been governed by mythology for a generation. 01:49:46.950 --> 01:49:49.151 Otherwise, our children will not escape. 01:49:52.754 --> 01:49:58.755 lens, I answered the origins question and looked into whether or not the virus has any evidence consistent with the methodologies from that time. 01:49:58.795 --> 01:50:07.577 And so I produced, helped produce one paper on the virus looking like it may have a pattern consistent with the methods we've used to resurrect these viruses from field samples or what's... Oh! 01:50:08.877 --> 01:50:14.499 The methods that we use to resurrect these viruses from field samples. 01:50:16.239 --> 01:50:20.160 Is it possible that he doesn't understand that these are not equivalent? 01:50:21.007 --> 01:50:26.429 that the ability to rescue these samples, as he calls it, which is not a good word for it. 01:50:27.369 --> 01:50:33.952 Rescue these samples means that you're getting back to something that you already had when you didn't. 01:50:34.032 --> 01:50:42.715 You never could get a purity or a quantity that can be obtained by the synthetic manufacturer of those sequences. 01:50:43.176 --> 01:50:46.497 And yet he very deceptively calls it rescuing 01:50:49.249 --> 01:50:57.253 You are producing a quantity and a purity of these signals that you purport to identify by analysis in the lab. 01:50:58.353 --> 01:51:03.435 You are producing a purity and a quantity that is impossible to achieve by any other means. 01:51:03.635 --> 01:51:07.617 And then using that as an equivalent starting point for virology. 01:51:07.997 --> 01:51:08.738 Stop lying! 01:51:09.118 --> 01:51:18.002 We need Alex Washburn to see this video and to understand where he's either confused or to expose him as part of this. 01:51:20.182 --> 01:51:21.323 called infectious clone technology. 01:51:22.103 --> 01:51:25.766 It was corroborated and it's consistent with the methodologies from that time. 01:51:25.806 --> 01:51:35.013 And so I produced, helped produce one paper on the virus looking like it may have a pattern consistent with the methods we've used to resurrect these viruses from field samples or what's called infectious clone technology. 01:51:35.773 --> 01:51:38.475 It was corroborated somewhat in a January of 2024. 01:51:38.735 --> 01:51:44.840 So why do you rescue them from field samples and call it infectious clone technology? 01:51:46.812 --> 01:51:54.135 Why isn't he being very clear that almost unlimited quantities of these infectious clones can be made? 01:51:54.595 --> 01:51:58.537 Whereas if you wanted to do that with the wild signal, that would be impossible. 01:52:01.198 --> 01:52:10.542 That when they try to isolate that signal in the wild, it's like this very faint line on their RNA analysis, a very faint line. 01:52:12.216 --> 01:52:20.500 And when they use their super nanopore sequencing technology, they find like two almost full sequences. 01:52:21.141 --> 01:52:27.384 Or in the case of another order of magnitude of analysis, they find 11 almost partial full sequences. 01:52:31.066 --> 01:52:38.890 And so either this guy is just sophisticated enough to be able to make mathematical models of this bullshit. 01:52:40.874 --> 01:52:45.738 Or he is absolutely aware of the illusion that he is sustaining. 01:52:48.481 --> 01:52:49.702 I'm not trying to be a creep. 01:52:49.782 --> 01:52:50.903 I'm trying to help people. 01:52:51.984 --> 01:53:02.753 And if this guy, if we give him a window into how he might be seeing it incorrectly and he sees the truth, then very soon Alex Washburn and I could be friends. 01:53:04.654 --> 01:53:06.536 But I don't think that's very likely to happen. 01:53:09.184 --> 01:53:11.385 I don't think he can't see. 01:53:12.346 --> 01:53:17.629 And if he can't see, then there are plenty of people around him who will make sure that he will never see me. 01:53:17.649 --> 01:53:36.179 Oh yeah, of the Diffuse Grant, which found the specific enzyme we had hypothesized could have been used for a reverse genetic system in SARS-2, that specific enzyme was in an order form for the Diffuse Grant itself, and so... Oh my gosh, they identified a restriction enzyme site, and that restriction enzyme was ordered by Peter Daszak in the Diffuse Proposal. 01:53:49.933 --> 01:53:52.374 It takes a lot of math and biology to fully consider it. 01:53:52.394 --> 01:53:54.415 In other words, there's no way for a general biology student to understand this. 01:53:54.495 --> 01:53:55.575 You could give it up if you're a teacher. 01:53:55.615 --> 01:53:57.756 I don't even care if you're a high school biologist. 01:53:57.776 --> 01:53:58.776 You don't have a chance. 01:54:16.383 --> 01:54:20.185 It takes quite a bit of math and biology to get a grasp on what's going on here. 01:54:20.525 --> 01:54:21.345 Stop lying! 01:54:21.806 --> 01:54:22.906 Can do it justice here. 01:54:22.946 --> 01:54:23.866 And so thank you so much. 01:54:23.887 --> 01:54:24.807 I'm really excited to chat about it. 01:54:25.387 --> 01:54:25.667 All right. 01:54:25.967 --> 01:54:30.410 Well, next we have Dr. Simon Wayne Hobson, Professor Emeritus at the Pastor Institute. 01:54:30.590 --> 01:54:33.011 And you may be familiar with him from some of his work around HIV. 01:54:34.491 --> 01:54:36.292 Yeah, so I'm a sort of a wet blower. 01:54:36.492 --> 01:54:38.533 His work on HIV! 01:54:41.568 --> 01:54:43.369 Wow, that's pretty funny. 01:54:43.389 --> 01:54:46.811 I've been battling this, what's known as the gain-of-function risky virus. 01:54:46.831 --> 01:54:47.991 We're at search now for 12 years. 01:54:48.551 --> 01:54:52.353 I was about the only virologist addressing this back in 2012. 01:54:52.913 --> 01:54:58.856 Basically, this is taking viruses, mainly from animals, and deliberately adapting it to humans. 01:54:58.976 --> 01:55:00.897 Deliberately, not perhaps deliberately. 01:55:01.357 --> 01:55:03.919 And basically, they're making the world a more dangerous place. 01:55:04.019 --> 01:55:08.541 But the shock is that these experiments cannot deliver a single result for any health official. 01:55:09.261 --> 01:55:17.228 They cannot deliver and have failed to deliver and in 12 years you will not find one good justification of why this work should be done but it's gone forward. 01:55:17.409 --> 01:55:27.378 And so he lives under the same illusion that Alex Washburn apparently lives under that what they find in the wild 01:55:28.527 --> 01:55:39.457 has all the same properties of the resurrected version, as Alex Washburn described it, when they make an infectious clone of it. 01:55:40.297 --> 01:55:51.987 Even though an infectious clone, by definition, is a quantity and a purity that cannot be made in any other way and is not found when they swab a bat. 01:55:52.808 --> 01:55:57.951 It is not found when they grow the swab sample in a cell culture. 01:55:58.011 --> 01:56:16.401 No matter what technique or specific cell type they use, the only way to achieve micrograms or even grams of a DNA that is supposedly derived from a coronavirus signal found in the wild is to use pharmaceutical grade technology to produce it. 01:56:18.382 --> 01:56:29.793 And even when you do that, it will still result in the erroneous, highly noisy, almost never perfect translation of that signal in a cell culture. 01:56:30.354 --> 01:56:35.639 And that's why you always get this weird smear of RNA when you look for it. 01:56:38.507 --> 01:56:42.228 It doesn't matter if you put an infectious clone in either because they've done that. 01:56:42.268 --> 01:56:52.311 We've looked at those papers and infectious clone produces the same assortment of subgenomic RNAs and same paucity of full genome RNA sequences. 01:56:55.211 --> 01:57:05.074 So there's no way to explain how it would be that such a sequence produced in such a way and such a quantity would be endangering the planet. 01:57:06.010 --> 01:57:18.961 It's not a nuclear bomb or an improvement on it as Kim.com would say, or any of these people would say, and they're not endangering the planet unless they make enough of it and put it places. 01:57:20.983 --> 01:57:23.164 Unless they transfect people with it. 01:57:23.705 --> 01:57:33.053 You know that word that we've been using for 20 years that all of a sudden everybody forgot about and now Jicky Leaks says is a transfection agent inside of the vaccines? 01:57:34.232 --> 01:57:38.614 The scientists do not see... There's another name for golf, it's dual-use research of concern. 01:57:39.095 --> 01:57:41.656 The scientists do not see the D, the dual use. 01:57:41.676 --> 01:57:44.637 They see... Dual-use research of concern. 01:57:44.677 --> 01:57:47.179 You want to know some dual-use research of concern? 01:57:47.199 --> 01:57:58.284 It's the fact that they have taken the entire field of neuroscience and bamboozled them to believe that they should focus on genes and make genetic knockouts of mice and study the 01:57:58.704 --> 01:58:04.436 biology of genetic knockouts to understand what individual genes do in the context of genetic disease. 01:58:06.440 --> 01:58:08.724 Now that's some malevolent bullshit right there. 01:58:11.002 --> 01:58:11.723 to help society. 01:58:11.943 --> 01:58:17.127 They do not understand the D. The D is for the State Department, which is the lead department in Biological Weapons Convention at Geneva. 01:58:17.287 --> 01:58:19.028 The State Department? 01:58:19.969 --> 01:58:21.891 Mark, did you hear what he just said? 01:58:21.911 --> 01:58:24.393 The State Department helps society. 01:58:24.613 --> 01:58:29.777 They do not understand the D. The D is for the State Department, which is the lead department in Biological Weapons Convention at Geneva. 01:58:29.937 --> 01:58:32.639 They do not see the D. So they're totally schizophrenic in this. 01:58:32.979 --> 01:58:38.544 And there's been no, very little public discussion, good discussion about two good conferences in all. 01:58:38.924 --> 01:58:40.005 How is this possible? 01:58:41.769 --> 01:58:43.329 Bench scientists no longer have the time to care. 01:58:43.749 --> 01:58:45.910 They're so busy running after money, doing experiments. 01:58:46.350 --> 01:58:48.050 Oh, scientists don't have time to care. 01:58:48.110 --> 01:58:49.671 How many times have I said this? 01:58:50.951 --> 01:59:05.334 That there are plenty of academic biologists that if I could just get in front of them and explain how PCR is great on their bench and terrible in a diagnostic, that RNA can't pandemic, and why they have it in their brain to know that in their bones. 01:59:07.405 --> 01:59:09.969 Oh, ladies and gentlemen, we are close to a landslide. 01:59:09.989 --> 01:59:10.970 They use words badly and imprecisely! 01:59:25.848 --> 01:59:29.289 Guess who's been saying that for a long time? 01:59:29.349 --> 01:59:34.930 That would be David Stove, who actually is first little part of this book. 01:59:35.950 --> 01:59:43.912 Also, just keep in mind that in the beginning of this book, which is really ironic, to the memory of George Orwell, who might have enjoyed at least part one of this book. 01:59:43.972 --> 01:59:44.652 This is the book. 01:59:45.733 --> 01:59:46.653 It's a wonderful book. 01:59:46.713 --> 01:59:47.513 It's very short. 01:59:47.593 --> 01:59:48.373 It's very narrow. 01:59:48.513 --> 01:59:50.874 Actually, the Broken Science Edition now has 01:59:51.474 --> 01:59:54.757 the exclusive rights to print this book, and I think they're making a nice copy of it. 01:59:55.858 --> 02:00:01.042 And the first chapter of this book is called Neutralizing Success Words. 02:00:06.687 --> 02:00:18.616 Isn't it crazy how close we are to absolutely... There are people falling out of the truck while we drive down the highway at an ever-increasing speed. 02:00:20.279 --> 02:00:22.881 It's really funny how badly this is crashing now. 02:00:23.501 --> 02:00:24.042 What can be done? 02:00:24.082 --> 02:00:25.983 And I'll go from the easy to the most difficult. 02:00:26.743 --> 02:00:30.966 We need, in times of crisis, virologists at best doing their virology. 02:00:31.006 --> 02:00:32.307 But there are times when it impacts society. 02:00:32.367 --> 02:00:34.468 We need to share a little more of what we know. 02:00:34.509 --> 02:00:35.389 The public want a little more. 02:00:35.409 --> 02:00:35.949 They don't want everything. 02:00:35.969 --> 02:00:36.570 They want a little more. 02:00:36.790 --> 02:00:37.631 That's relatively easy. 02:00:38.311 --> 02:00:39.352 My wife is a pediatrician. 02:00:39.372 --> 02:00:41.013 My son is an interventional cardiologist. 02:00:41.033 --> 02:00:42.154 They've taken a Hippocratic oath. 02:00:43.154 --> 02:00:44.015 They could do harm. 02:00:44.500 --> 02:00:50.404 But as a virologist who's thought about this, I could conjure up some really nasty stuff that you really wouldn't want to know about. 02:00:51.304 --> 02:00:52.365 And no Hippocratic Oath. 02:00:52.825 --> 02:00:56.648 I think a Hippocratic Oath for life science PhDs, pretty easy, fairly easy to do. 02:00:56.668 --> 02:00:58.509 Stanford could start it tomorrow if they wanted, I imagine. 02:00:59.330 --> 02:01:01.571 The next thing, we do need independent oversight. 02:01:01.811 --> 02:01:02.792 And Bryce will talk about this. 02:01:03.112 --> 02:01:04.193 And therefore, I won't take his time. 02:01:04.953 --> 02:01:19.836 um and it has to be in so bryce nichols is going to talk about that i want to get to the i want to get to the pandemic um next we have a dr bryce nichols professor of genetics the lab director at the wakesman institute of the professor of genetics 02:01:23.010 --> 02:01:25.831 It's weird how, like, Claire Craig's a geneticist. 02:01:26.051 --> 02:01:30.311 Mark, I mean, Kevin McKernan is a gene guy. 02:01:30.411 --> 02:01:32.872 Robert Malone cut his teeth in those labs. 02:01:34.772 --> 02:01:37.032 Judy Mikovits cut her teeth in those labs. 02:01:37.072 --> 02:01:51.375 Shoot, there's so many people that are rising to the top of this dissonant movement who have a whole career sort of controlling and curating previous narratives about the biology 02:01:52.173 --> 02:01:54.555 foundation of biology 101. 02:01:56.437 --> 02:02:10.610 All of these people's career have been integral in providing the intellectual foundation for this absolute pile of bullshit that's now in its like 15th edition. 02:02:16.089 --> 02:02:20.572 That's why they're also in music videos together from the last four years, including a musical. 02:02:20.832 --> 02:02:23.854 Microbiology at Rutgers University and the co-founder of Biosafety Now. 02:02:24.835 --> 02:02:25.575 Okay, thank you very much. 02:02:25.615 --> 02:02:28.757 So I really am here in my capacity as one of the founders of Biosafety Now. 02:02:29.783 --> 02:02:36.427 But Biosafety Now is a non-profit that was founded in... It's a non-profit that pays me more money and yada, yada, yada. 02:02:36.467 --> 02:02:37.047 It's awful. 02:02:37.087 --> 02:02:40.869 We're going to start a non-profit for the independent bright web. 02:02:40.909 --> 02:02:46.913 I'm just not really sure all the details about it, but that's coming very soon because this game is over. 02:02:47.665 --> 02:02:53.346 And we are about to win for many, many, many years to come. 02:02:54.106 --> 02:03:06.549 Five years from now, I envision there being thousands of high school seniors graduating and deciding what to do with their lives after having had two years of biology instruction from me. 02:03:07.510 --> 02:03:09.150 That's what I envision in five years. 02:03:10.246 --> 02:03:26.540 thousands of young individuals with a renewed spirit for building, a new spirit for community, and a new spirit for a new vision for where America should go and where we should go in Pennsylvania. 02:03:26.600 --> 02:03:37.008 So I don't know what I'm gonna be able to do for the whole world, but I do know for sure that Western Pennsylvania is about to have an intellectual nuclear bomb dropped on it over the next couple years. 02:03:38.849 --> 02:03:40.010 I'm just going to pass through here. 02:04:01.756 --> 02:04:03.677 Will it move fast track in the next two months? 02:04:04.317 --> 02:04:05.958 He could be very excited about it. 02:04:05.998 --> 02:04:16.502 He could be very genuine and he could not have the sophistication and the appreciation for the sacred biology to be able to see through the illusion that has been seeded for generations. 02:04:16.722 --> 02:04:18.983 I didn't see through it until less than a year ago. 02:04:20.945 --> 02:04:44.365 So don't mistake my vigor for overconfidence or my vigor for arrogance, because I am the most humble servant here, trying desperately to get more people to dance with me, being the only person standing up in the lawn, dancing to the music and not doing it very well, but trying desperately to get other people to stand up. 02:04:45.905 --> 02:04:46.947 I swear, we can do it. 02:04:47.287 --> 02:04:48.068 You just have to step up. 02:04:48.569 --> 02:04:50.912 Well, I'm going to write an email to say the contrary if you do that. 02:04:50.952 --> 02:04:51.513 So that's fine. 02:04:51.533 --> 02:04:52.154 That's fine. 02:04:52.855 --> 02:04:55.018 An email that, so I guess I'll stop so we can go. 02:04:55.038 --> 02:04:55.599 Yeah, that's right. 02:04:55.619 --> 02:04:57.021 All right. 02:04:57.061 --> 02:04:59.664 Well, Dr. Laura Kahn, co-founder of the One Health Initiative. 02:04:59.684 --> 02:05:02.809 And it would also be good to understand, I'm sure you're going to tell us a little more about what that means. 02:05:03.314 --> 02:05:03.474 Right. 02:05:03.494 --> 02:05:03.794 Thank you. 02:05:04.015 --> 02:05:07.438 First, I'd like to thank the founder of the One Health Initiative. 02:05:07.698 --> 02:05:09.119 Oh, my gosh. 02:05:09.159 --> 02:05:12.702 Jay and the organizers here at Stanford University for organizing this really important conference. 02:05:12.742 --> 02:05:15.965 And thank all of you to sit through all of this until our panel. 02:05:16.005 --> 02:05:17.086 So thank you for your attention. 02:05:17.987 --> 02:05:25.634 Well, first, before I start talking about One Health, I think it's important to determine what exactly is the evidence needed to prove the origin of the virus. 02:05:26.098 --> 02:05:41.144 And if one wants to conclude that this was a natural spillover event, then we need to look at what was the evidence that was used for SARS-CoV-1 back in 2002, 2003, and what was used for MERS back in 2012, the evidence that was accepted that these were natural spillover events. 02:05:41.564 --> 02:05:49.948 Now, so for SARS-CoV-1, and I apologize, I can't share my PowerPoint slide with you, but the evidence for SARS-CoV-1 was that there was animal antibody and viral genome evidence 02:05:50.356 --> 02:05:54.705 from palm civets in the animal market in Guangdong, China, had genome sequences that were 99.8% identical. 02:06:02.774 --> 02:06:20.388 Instead of the data from Alina Chan, where you can clearly see the evolutionary difference between these two signal sets, irrespective of whether you believe that this biology is genuine, there is a signal that Alina Chan reported that never actually got published or confirmed. 02:06:20.428 --> 02:06:29.115 And yet she has succeeded in becoming a sort of a pretty well, well set up academic. 02:06:30.959 --> 02:06:32.461 It's incredible, really. 02:06:32.541 --> 02:06:35.724 I find this just incredible, what we're witnessing here. 02:06:36.485 --> 02:06:38.066 I don't really want to listen to her too much. 02:06:42.853 --> 02:06:46.316 In addition to that animal evidence, there was also occupational serological evidence. 02:06:46.636 --> 02:06:53.703 A study of 800 people in the Guangdong province found that people who traded in masked palm civets had the highest positivity rate. 02:06:53.983 --> 02:06:59.728 That day, samples of thousands of people to assess the... She doesn't believe what she's saying here. 02:06:59.768 --> 02:07:01.369 I don't see the truth in her eyes. 02:07:01.429 --> 02:07:04.052 I see a terrified person who just wants to get this over with. 02:07:04.152 --> 02:07:10.037 Pervalence rates of... There was a... The origins question, maybe for the first part of the panel and the second. 02:07:10.282 --> 02:07:14.985 We'll do the second part will be on the regulation of virology and so forth and the Risky Review Act and so forth. 02:07:15.305 --> 02:07:20.568 So without further ado, Dr. Sunetra Gupta, Professor of Theoretical Epidemiology at the University of Oxford. 02:07:21.943 --> 02:07:22.383 Thank you very much. 02:07:22.483 --> 02:07:23.604 Okay, what I'm gonna do, I thought. 02:07:23.684 --> 02:07:26.387 So she's the theoretical biologist. 02:07:26.407 --> 02:07:32.652 So what she's gonna do is talk about how, you know, these things can't, they would have fizzled out. 02:07:33.392 --> 02:07:44.621 She's gonna lend credence to the idea that RNA molecules can do very special things, but just not as special or as scary as a lot of these people say. 02:07:45.582 --> 02:07:47.524 And it's because she's a theoretician. 02:07:48.547 --> 02:07:54.010 And she stood up with Martin Cole. 02:07:54.030 --> 02:07:54.951 I can't remember his name. 02:07:54.991 --> 02:07:56.051 Somebody type it in the chat. 02:07:58.546 --> 02:08:20.921 Koldorf, Martin Koldorf, Jay Bhattacharya, and this woman are the Great Barrington Declaration, which said that we should have focused lockdowns, but didn't speak out about anything else, and I don't think actually made any real significant stand on behalf of biology or on behalf of not lying to the human population about what's going on. 02:08:21.806 --> 02:08:22.526 I don't think so. 02:08:23.007 --> 02:08:26.528 Not Sanjay Gupta, sorry, her name is, she just said it. 02:08:27.249 --> 02:08:29.630 Especially since I'm quite jet lagged and it's late. 02:08:30.330 --> 02:08:31.091 This is my second panel. 02:08:31.211 --> 02:08:38.074 I'm going to just read out what I wrote for Prospect magazine when they asked me to make a small comment about this whole theory. 02:08:38.114 --> 02:08:41.276 Someone had written an article and this was supposed to be a reply but it was solicited. 02:08:42.057 --> 02:08:42.738 So this is what I said. 02:08:43.419 --> 02:08:49.247 I said, to my mind, the discussion about the origin of SARS-CoV-2 rotates around two equally implausible scenarios. 02:08:49.828 --> 02:08:56.517 Either that the virus was manufactured in a laboratory in Wuhan, or that it jumped out of a dish of pangolin chop suey somewhere nearby. 02:08:57.558 --> 02:09:03.602 What is far more likely is that the virus had already been circulating over a period of several months in China and only came to light in Wuhan. 02:09:03.802 --> 02:09:07.684 Just because we found it in Wuhan doesn't mean it came from Wuhan. 02:09:08.265 --> 02:09:16.470 It only came to light in Wuhan when it was at sufficient prevalence for an intelligent physician to identify an atypical cluster of hospital cases and raise the alarm. 02:09:17.550 --> 02:09:26.936 I cannot blame my colleagues for rushing to stem potentially dangerous speculations about a leak that might seem plausible from the coincidence that the virus was first 02:09:27.256 --> 02:09:29.357 detected in such close proximity to the Wuhan lab. 02:09:29.957 --> 02:09:43.784 However, it is extremely unfortunate that a civilized discussion about the possible origins of SARS-CoV-2 became impossible under the dedication to a single narrative that was subsequently supported and sponsored by them, not just regarding the origins of SARS-CoV-2. 02:09:44.084 --> 02:09:46.806 So now you're experiencing the scooby-doo. 02:09:47.586 --> 02:09:57.775 where the censorship of the discussion indicates that this is a question that needs answering, a mystery that needs solving, villains that need unmasking. 02:09:58.736 --> 02:10:04.141 And that's why two and a half years ago already I started calling it a Scooby-Doo because I realized that I had been fooled. 02:10:05.089 --> 02:10:11.152 into solving this mystery and fooled into accepting or representing one half of this illusion. 02:10:11.272 --> 02:10:18.036 And like it or not, I was part of the limited spectrum of debate and very happy to bounce around in that cage. 02:10:18.076 --> 02:10:20.917 I was riding my motorcycle around in circles hard as I could. 02:10:25.239 --> 02:10:32.283 But also with respect to the infinitely more important question of how to come up with a humanitarian solution to the problem of minimizing deaths from the pandemic. 02:10:34.697 --> 02:10:38.699 I should also like to make the point that the hysteria around gain-of-function is misplaced. 02:10:39.240 --> 02:10:41.020 Sorry to be not entirely respectful. 02:10:41.561 --> 02:10:49.784 Those clamouring for it to be restricted would do well to recognise that many of the proponents of lockdown were also firmly in favour of stopping gain-of-function research in pre-pandemic times. 02:10:50.245 --> 02:11:01.890 My own assessment of gain-of-function, which I believe is shared by many other virologists, is that it's an unfortunately named standard process for determining the properties of viruses and carries a very low risk to any of us. 02:11:02.190 --> 02:11:09.294 And so as a theoretician, she actually hasn't done enough biological work and biological study. 02:11:09.954 --> 02:11:14.496 And I mean, like, been in the field, gone camping, captured 02:11:16.875 --> 02:11:33.002 snakes, and kept rabbits, and had a dog, and made plaster casts of bear tracks, and all the things that people who are real biologists do from when they're little babies. 02:11:34.454 --> 02:11:59.086 And so she has no real big place in her head for the humble reverence for the irreducible complexity that can be witnessed if you're there and you're present, that you can see it in everything from a newborn baby all the way to the 75-year oak tree in the backyard as it changes color this fall. 02:12:02.458 --> 02:12:20.301 And that's a kind of appreciation for biology that we need more young people to have so that they are not vulnerable to these shortcut explanations and these broad ranging simple models that allow all of these public health initiatives to thrive and go forward. 02:12:21.321 --> 02:12:22.242 I can substantiate on that. 02:12:22.522 --> 02:12:28.623 In fact, gain-of-function experiments are far more likely to lead to medical interventions that improve the lives of people than to spawn a new pandemic. 02:12:28.923 --> 02:12:30.343 Nature is far more adept at that. 02:12:31.024 --> 02:12:36.826 So what I'd like to... So nature is far more adept at making pandemics than mankind would be. 02:12:36.906 --> 02:12:38.086 That's her stance. 02:12:39.767 --> 02:12:49.330 That's the theoretical biologist that is on the same team as Jay Bhattacharya, who says that he's too unsophisticated to understand my biology. 02:12:50.370 --> 02:13:02.034 But he can have a French-speaking immunologist on to tell him why the DNA in the shots is bad and why the next generation of these vaccines is going to be really great because they already proved themselves in the pandemic. 02:13:02.494 --> 02:13:04.975 Jay Bhattacharya had that podcast about a month ago. 02:13:05.435 --> 02:13:08.216 I've done a study haul on it. 02:13:08.236 --> 02:13:11.157 What I do is actually go back to the framework that I used in the last panel. 02:13:11.516 --> 02:13:12.437 to think about lockdowns. 02:13:12.677 --> 02:13:15.800 I'm not going to listen to her anymore. 02:13:16.340 --> 02:13:22.646 Yes, but I just suddenly realized that this part of it is more about just assessing our response to gain-of-function research itself. 02:13:23.347 --> 02:13:30.993 So perhaps what I should do, I'll save that for later and just respond to that because I have been vocal while Bryce is speaking and also Laura. 02:13:31.874 --> 02:13:32.495 Just say why I think 02:13:34.099 --> 02:13:41.862 And don't underestimate how dumb they think we are, that they think that just because somebody speaks in an English accent that we'll believe them, because it works. 02:13:42.602 --> 02:13:44.583 It works on a lot of Americans. 02:13:44.663 --> 02:13:48.424 And once they figured that out, that's why they got John Oliver and these people over here. 02:13:48.444 --> 02:13:49.605 I mean, that's what is happening. 02:13:50.685 --> 02:13:52.346 Understand that very clearly. 02:13:52.386 --> 02:13:53.846 That's why they use foreigners. 02:13:54.887 --> 02:14:00.889 That's why so many of these American traders are collaborating with foreigners, because it's part of the hypnosis. 02:14:02.410 --> 02:14:03.813 I don't buy these arguments. 02:14:04.894 --> 02:14:11.826 So with regard... That's the reason why Claire Craig is more vocal and visible around the world than she is in her own home country. 02:14:12.932 --> 02:14:18.657 Let's just comment about 1918, the flu virus of 1918, that it would kill everybody. 02:14:19.017 --> 02:14:21.319 We actually have evidence that it would not. 02:14:21.439 --> 02:14:29.385 In 2009, we had a pandemic, swine flu pandemic, which was, at least in terms of its hemagglutinin protein, almost identical to the 1918 pandemic. 02:14:30.106 --> 02:14:35.390 Some of the work I've done... Enough, enough, enough, enough, enough. 02:14:38.810 --> 02:14:44.076 I would love to have a panel discussion with her about the actual biology that underlies these presumptions. 02:14:44.136 --> 02:14:46.018 I think I would make her look like a clown. 02:14:46.618 --> 02:14:54.166 Unfortunately, because a lot of these people just wouldn't be able to expound on these ideas if you ask them questions that are sharp enough. 02:14:54.206 --> 02:14:55.468 See, that's the problem with 02:14:56.108 --> 02:15:08.952 RNA cannot pandemic or intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb or even saying that transfection is criminal because then these people are already in a place where they can no longer move. 02:15:09.392 --> 02:15:13.313 It's outside of the ball where they're riding their motorcycle. 02:15:15.394 --> 02:15:21.736 And even Gupta is riding a motorcycle inside of this metal ball with fire coming out of her exhaust pipes. 02:15:21.816 --> 02:15:24.497 It's just a different circle than these others are riding. 02:15:25.444 --> 02:15:32.007 Or maybe it's on the other side of the moving arms and there's two, two spheres of motorcycles going around. 02:15:32.087 --> 02:15:34.068 It's the, it's the wheel of death. 02:15:37.269 --> 02:15:42.711 But the moment that you get outside of that and you stand on the ground and say, well, RNA can't pandemic. 02:15:42.771 --> 02:15:49.254 Now all those motorcycles making noise and all the fire coming out of the exhaust pipes becomes, wait, what? 02:15:51.155 --> 02:15:59.201 That's what you see happening in real time on X and real time in these groups where after five times of presenting, there's no more to talk about. 02:16:00.201 --> 02:16:01.522 There's no more to discuss. 02:16:02.483 --> 02:16:09.127 And now you have people in that UK chat like Nick Hudson saying that these technical discussions are useless now. 02:16:11.369 --> 02:16:14.771 And you have Dave Rasnick saying that the technical discussions are useless. 02:16:15.011 --> 02:16:18.474 I know because I tried to do it for AIDS and everybody ignored me. 02:16:19.502 --> 02:16:21.864 And so you should give up on your grandchildren too. 02:16:23.766 --> 02:16:24.886 I'm not willing to give up. 02:16:25.247 --> 02:16:38.418 I think that there are people at the University of Pittsburgh who can still remember that there was this really cool, funny guy at the University of Pittsburgh named Jay who helped me with my preparation or carried that heavy box for me. 02:16:38.978 --> 02:16:42.041 And then they could think back and say, I wonder what Jay's doing right now. 02:16:43.464 --> 02:16:46.666 And somebody could show him that, well, he wrote a book with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 02:16:46.686 --> 02:16:50.188 and then kind of shot himself in the foot by contradicting him about the biology. 02:16:50.768 --> 02:16:55.351 And he's currently just teaching online, trying to get people to realize that RNA cannot pandemic. 02:16:55.371 --> 02:17:02.915 And there might be a faculty member at the University of Pittsburgh who will call me up and say, holy shit, dude, we need to get this in the newspaper. 02:17:04.235 --> 02:17:04.976 Can I help you? 02:17:08.348 --> 02:17:17.753 Maybe there's a person at the university in Trondheim, the NTNU where I used to work in the lab of Mosers that will find me and say, wow, he used to work here. 02:17:17.793 --> 02:17:23.075 And then somebody will ask around and one of the technicians will say, oh yeah, he was one of the coolest people that was ever here. 02:17:23.455 --> 02:17:28.358 The first day that he came in here, I asked him for a knife and he pulled out an automatic knife and I almost passed out. 02:17:33.157 --> 02:17:36.698 Then they'll say, well, you know, he's online teaching the RNA pandemic. 02:17:36.758 --> 02:17:37.678 Is he a smart guy? 02:17:37.718 --> 02:17:38.839 Does he know what he's talking about? 02:17:38.879 --> 02:17:42.200 And then all of a sudden something will happen. 02:17:43.980 --> 02:17:45.101 That's how close we are. 02:17:45.141 --> 02:17:48.702 There are people that work at the Allen Institute who I've stayed at their house before. 02:17:50.602 --> 02:17:52.443 My old boss got the Nobel prize in 2014. 02:17:52.483 --> 02:17:54.083 There are people who know my name. 02:17:58.874 --> 02:18:05.305 And so if this idea or these ideas get out there and those biologists go, yeah, he was a smart guy. 02:18:05.345 --> 02:18:07.328 And what he's saying is quite provocative. 02:18:07.869 --> 02:18:11.515 And, you know, come to think of it off the top of my head, I can't really argue with him. 02:18:13.450 --> 02:18:14.591 something might happen. 02:18:14.651 --> 02:18:16.693 But instead, nah, we don't need to talk about it. 02:18:17.093 --> 02:18:18.995 Technical discussions are so 2020. 02:18:19.415 --> 02:18:25.760 Technical discussions are so the Vance Crowe podcast in 2020. 02:18:25.800 --> 02:18:27.622 Come on, dude, get up to speed. 02:18:27.702 --> 02:18:30.304 With regard to not being able to find it in animals. 02:18:31.065 --> 02:18:36.950 Well, you know, the fact is, clearly, it's a specific evolutionary event, which 02:18:38.815 --> 02:18:41.837 may or may not make it transmissible in animals. 02:18:42.578 --> 02:18:46.841 I'm going to go forward a little bit because I don't want to hear her talk about virology. 02:18:46.882 --> 02:18:47.462 I want to get to Alex. 02:18:47.722 --> 02:18:49.844 Now remember, Alex already said that infectious clone technology is used to rescue 02:19:00.049 --> 02:19:06.431 the sequences that they identify in the wild by taking samples in the wild and processing them in the laboratory. 02:19:07.171 --> 02:19:08.891 The processing is sequencing. 02:19:09.991 --> 02:19:13.832 And then in order to study those sequences, number one, they have to fill in a lot of blanks. 02:19:14.472 --> 02:19:24.435 And a lot of times they fill in blanks with previously discovered sequences and construct a consensus genome as determined by Ralph Baric's description. 02:19:25.342 --> 02:19:32.604 And so he's already being disingenuous in the previous discussion where he said that, well, you know, we get these sequences and then we make DNA clones. 02:19:33.064 --> 02:19:35.505 He didn't say that, well, we never find all the genes. 02:19:35.565 --> 02:19:39.026 And so we know that these genes are necessary to get anything to happen. 02:19:39.726 --> 02:19:42.687 And he doesn't say what I say in my sub stack. 02:19:44.229 --> 02:20:03.389 which is the substack that I tried to work on with Jessica Hockett and Jonathan Engler and Nick Hudson and Martin Neal, that substack where I show paper after paper where infectious clones are used and they actually co-transfect with the N-protein because if they do that, they get a lot more viral particles. 02:20:09.488 --> 02:20:11.309 So he's not gonna tell you anything about that. 02:20:11.389 --> 02:20:21.372 Neither is Jonathan Engler, neither is Jessica Hockett, neither is Nick Hudson, even though Nick Hudson showed up at my medical doctors for COVID ethics presentation two days ago. 02:20:22.313 --> 02:20:26.755 And when he decided to speak, he didn't say, oh, wow, I've known Jay for many years. 02:20:26.815 --> 02:20:29.035 He's presented three times to Panda. 02:20:29.436 --> 02:20:35.738 When he gave an immunology presentation at Panda, David Wiseman said it was the best immunology lecture he'd ever seen in his career. 02:20:38.191 --> 02:20:43.595 Nick just spouted in that these technical discussions are just a waste of time now. 02:20:45.437 --> 02:20:46.238 A likely scenario. 02:20:46.498 --> 02:20:51.962 Let's, from our other panelists, so I think our side towards the lab leak side, let's just kind of enumerate the evidence in particular. 02:20:53.223 --> 02:20:58.908 I guess some of the specific, like for example, Alex, you found these very specific restriction enzyme fingerprints, right? 02:20:58.928 --> 02:21:01.150 This is a very interesting piece of evidence that's valuable to consider. 02:21:01.170 --> 02:21:06.194 Let's go through the remaining panelists and just set up the evidence for lab origin. 02:21:07.056 --> 02:21:07.516 Absolutely. 02:21:07.536 --> 02:21:07.717 Yeah. 02:21:07.737 --> 02:21:13.162 So first I want to let everyone know that there are a few people in the world I admire as much as Dr. Gupta. 02:21:13.222 --> 02:21:16.405 And so I'm really excited to hear her thoughts on this. 02:21:16.785 --> 02:21:19.588 And from the lab origin theories perspective. 02:21:20.629 --> 02:21:22.871 It really boils down to probabilities. 02:21:23.411 --> 02:21:25.693 And even though there are- Ha! 02:21:25.753 --> 02:21:27.834 It boils down to probabilities, Mark! 02:21:28.194 --> 02:21:28.955 Did you hear that? 02:21:29.095 --> 02:21:30.636 It's just probab- ha ha ha! 02:21:30.696 --> 02:21:39.282 Two equally likely scenarios, the likelihood ratios may not be similar, at least when we try to do due diligence and use prior methods to estimate those likelihoods. 02:21:39.918 --> 02:22:00.697 What is the probability that there was a novel RNA molecule that, because of its unique sequence, was able to circulate the globe for five years and kill millions of people, or that the national security state that understood this biology very well and the many limitations of it would have lied about that in order to manage a problem, you know, like a population pyramid with a top-heavy... 02:22:03.519 --> 02:22:29.749 is hilarious so one example is what's the odds of this endemic let's say coronavirus emerging in wuhan of all places what's what are the odds of this what did he say endemic coronavirus you mean a coronavirus that's already there a coronavirus that's already in the back why did he use that word endemic what clarify please mr man his perspective 02:22:30.800 --> 02:22:33.062 it really boils down to probabilities. 02:22:33.582 --> 02:22:39.186 And even though there are two equally likely scenarios, the likelihood ratios may not be similar. 02:22:39.206 --> 02:22:43.509 At least when we try to do due diligence and use prior methods to estimate those likelihoods. 02:22:44.169 --> 02:22:58.900 So one example is what's the odds of the- I think a lot of these people are using the words due diligence just to use the words due diligence to make sure that nobody ever uses the word strict scrutiny or strict liability or rational basis test. 02:22:59.700 --> 02:23:00.601 due diligence. 02:23:00.841 --> 02:23:08.446 I worked really hard, and I tried really hard to read everything, but he, he did due diligence. 02:23:09.047 --> 02:23:12.689 This endemic, let's say, coronavirus emerging in Wuhan, of all places. 02:23:14.010 --> 02:23:18.473 What are the odds of an endemic coronavirus emerging in Wuhan? 02:23:18.734 --> 02:23:25.338 Does he, does he not, for you, reveal an incredible level of unsophistication here? 02:23:25.398 --> 02:23:28.841 He's actually using words that he doesn't understand incorrectly right now. 02:23:29.790 --> 02:23:32.134 How does an endemic virus emerge? 02:23:38.224 --> 02:23:39.286 It's already endemic. 02:23:44.906 --> 02:23:49.610 Stars coronaviruses span this region of Southeast Asia that contains about a billion people. 02:23:49.630 --> 02:23:52.073 Wuhan has about 10 million people. 02:23:52.633 --> 02:23:59.560 So just off the cuff, you might estimate if you were sitting in my chair in 2018 trying to forecast the emergence of bat viruses. 02:23:59.620 --> 02:24:00.200 Here he goes. 02:24:00.280 --> 02:24:08.989 He's going to use math to make an accurate prediction about the sacred irreducible complexity that is our planet. 02:24:10.106 --> 02:24:17.027 And he's going to use math to make a relative off-the-cuff calculation about what a pattern integrity RNA molecule could do. 02:24:18.288 --> 02:24:18.768 Wow. 02:24:18.988 --> 02:24:23.829 You'd estimate a 1% chance that Wuhan is the site of origin of a SARS coronavirus. 02:24:24.969 --> 02:24:28.050 Can we see the napkin that that calculation was done on, Alex? 02:24:28.090 --> 02:24:29.650 Because that doesn't really convince me. 02:24:29.730 --> 02:24:34.891 The thing to look at is SARS-CoV-2 has this interesting motif called the furin cleavage site. 02:24:35.811 --> 02:24:39.734 The cell cuts open the viral protein and engulfs the cell. 02:24:49.890 --> 02:24:52.592 understand that this is part of the admission here. 02:24:52.632 --> 02:24:57.956 He doesn't understand this biology, the implications of a fear and cleavage site, the mechanism that's involved. 02:24:58.477 --> 02:25:12.107 So actually, I think this is the admission that he is a mathematician who masquerades as a biologist, and these people are very happy to give him fame and comfort in order for him to keep masquerading as a biologist. 02:25:12.648 --> 02:25:14.009 We need to get him on the show. 02:25:15.612 --> 02:25:21.317 We need to get him on the show so that we can expose him for the fake it till you make it biologist that he is. 02:25:21.817 --> 02:25:40.492 So we knew some of these mechanisms by which these proteolytic cleavage sites have been interesting motif called the furin cleavage site that in 2018 and before people were studying the roles of these proteolytic... That's exactly what Charles Rixey would also tell you because there's one video where a Dortmiter 02:25:41.849 --> 02:25:49.796 Or whatever his name is, Dortmetzer says that when we find a furin cleavage site in a flu culture that we get rid of it. 02:25:59.884 --> 02:26:01.125 So we knew some of these mechanisms. 02:26:01.145 --> 02:26:03.486 So both times he tried, he got that wrong. 02:26:03.626 --> 02:26:06.908 First, he said the virus cuts the protein and then engulfs the cell. 02:26:07.348 --> 02:26:11.310 Then he said the cell engulfs or cuts the protein and then engulfs the cell. 02:26:11.750 --> 02:26:12.270 So he said it. 02:26:12.390 --> 02:26:14.071 He said it wrong both times. 02:26:14.491 --> 02:26:16.672 This is not a sophisticated biologist. 02:26:16.713 --> 02:26:25.577 This is someone who knows just enough to be elevated in this panel and knows just enough to stick to what he knows and not get himself into danger. 02:26:25.717 --> 02:26:41.612 That is SARS-CoV-2 has this interesting motif called the furin cleavage site that in 2018 and before people were studying the roles of these proteolytic cleavage sites that the virus cuts open the protein and uses that to then engulf the virus. 02:26:41.772 --> 02:26:44.616 The cell cuts open the viral protein, engulfs the cell. 02:26:45.116 --> 02:27:00.656 So we knew some of these mechanisms by which these proteolytic cleavage sites... We knew some of these mechanisms that I can't even explain because I just got briefed on them a couple months ago when they told me that Jonathan Cooley wasn't going to play the role that they wanted him to and so they recruited me to do it. 02:27:02.318 --> 02:27:06.140 And the way they handed it off was that they had Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 02:27:06.200 --> 02:27:12.424 call me in the middle of the night and tell me that we had to write a paper to get ahead of this story to make sure that we were the first ones. 02:27:13.244 --> 02:27:24.551 And the story was about Alex Washburn's paper that showed that his hypothetical restriction enzyme was actually in the diffuse proposal. 02:27:28.163 --> 02:27:32.911 I'm trying to confess that I was used as a patsy, as a dupe, as a dipshit. 02:27:34.079 --> 02:27:35.620 for as long as they could use me. 02:27:36.340 --> 02:27:50.885 And then when they realized I wasn't going to be useful to them anymore and I was doubting the providence of the defuse proposal, they brought this fool in and connected him to me and made me very tempted to promote him so that what? 02:27:50.945 --> 02:27:55.866 He could be on a Stanford panel with my friend Jay Bhattacharya a year later. 02:27:58.487 --> 02:28:04.132 And we were thinking about these as well as like the what that could be a mechanism for jump capability. 02:28:05.173 --> 02:28:11.158 But when you look at the evolutionary tree of SARS coronaviruses, there's about a thousand years of evolutionary time. 02:28:11.198 --> 02:28:17.523 Now, granted, it's not equally sampled and we haven't been going back a thousand years, but we still we can reconstruct a tree. 02:28:17.943 --> 02:28:21.626 See, so we don't have any evidence, but if we assume 02:28:22.679 --> 02:28:26.762 that they have evolved through spontaneous evolution. 02:28:26.822 --> 02:28:33.407 You know, that really crazy idea that really goes back all the way to the Manhattan Project and to nuclear weapons and nuclear energy. 02:28:33.887 --> 02:28:40.352 And the idea that they might even be able to speed up evolution by exposing people to radiation, you know, like the Incredible Hulk or the X-Men. 02:28:41.272 --> 02:28:43.454 It's all the same bad ideas. 02:28:45.936 --> 02:28:47.697 and the branch length is 1,000 years. 02:28:48.678 --> 02:28:57.624 And there's not a single furin cleavage site within the SARS coronavirus clade until a year and a half after people proposed to insert one. 02:28:58.325 --> 02:28:59.686 Where did they propose to insert it? 02:29:00.146 --> 02:29:00.646 In Wuhan. 02:29:01.267 --> 02:29:06.310 So now we have a Wuhan origin, we have a grant proposing to insert the strange motif in a SARS coronavirus. 02:29:06.390 --> 02:29:08.792 It is extremely well done. 02:29:08.892 --> 02:29:10.373 It is extremely well done. 02:29:10.413 --> 02:29:12.555 You need to watch the movie The Sting. 02:29:14.304 --> 02:29:16.107 One of the best movies of all time. 02:29:16.167 --> 02:29:20.233 Watch the movie The Sting to see exactly how well this can be done. 02:29:20.994 --> 02:29:26.522 And exactly what they've done to us over a multi-generational sting. 02:29:27.694 --> 02:29:29.135 please watch the movie Sting. 02:29:29.615 --> 02:29:33.677 Maybe I'm even going to watch the Sting with you here, because it's such a good movie. 02:29:33.717 --> 02:29:35.378 I need to watch it with my kids this weekend. 02:29:35.478 --> 02:29:38.279 Virus in Wuhan, but then how would they do that? 02:29:38.299 --> 02:29:48.063 In order to insert, if you're in a cleavage site, in this RNA virus, the RNA virus has a single-stranded RNA genome that's really wobbly, and you can't actually just insert things into it. 02:29:48.544 --> 02:29:50.745 You have to build a DNA copy of the virus. 02:29:51.365 --> 02:29:53.066 And it's not only just to do the insertion, 02:29:54.161 --> 02:30:06.730 protocol for getting bat samples out of Laos and shipping them across borders to then study the virus in the lab required typically inactivating that bat virus sample so that it didn't infect people along the way. 02:30:06.750 --> 02:30:08.891 And then you have an inactive virus. 02:30:09.531 --> 02:30:17.337 An inactive virus is also just a tube with a bunch of fractionated RNAs in it that you're going to derive a sequence from. 02:30:17.977 --> 02:30:18.918 Oh my gosh. 02:30:18.958 --> 02:30:20.279 In your lab, wherever that is, 02:30:41.616 --> 02:30:47.379 So you typically print out chunks of the virus and then you glue them together with these cutting and pasting sites. 02:30:48.060 --> 02:30:55.544 So the pattern of these cuttings... So do we really need him to teach us this when that technology is all the basis for the Human Genome Project? 02:30:56.004 --> 02:31:04.309 Isn't it very strange that somebody like Kevin McKernan would come out on, I don't know, a podcast run by a former World Bank employee named Vance Crowe? 02:31:05.069 --> 02:31:17.056 three times in 2020 and never bring us to understand how virology is enabled by the rescuing of these sequences and their processing and manufacture by synthetic DNA clone? 02:31:17.376 --> 02:31:22.038 That we needed somebody like Alex Washburn to come out in 2023 and tell us this? 02:31:23.899 --> 02:31:32.404 Do you really think that that's not an absolute, terribly awful red flag admission that Kevin McKernan 02:31:33.288 --> 02:31:43.788 who knows that the Human Genome Project is restriction enzyme mapping, knows that restriction enzyme mapping was seminal to our understanding of any kind of sequencing, because that's how they do it. 02:31:44.830 --> 02:32:05.885 and can explain how seminal they are to all commercial versions of synthetic molecular biology, you don't think that he could explain how coronavirus biology was done in a laboratory in 2020, but he had to focus on PCR testing and talk about testing PCR in weed in 2020? 02:32:07.406 --> 02:32:11.809 And then now in 2024, that same guy still isn't able to explain this? 02:32:12.290 --> 02:32:13.611 It has to be this guy? 02:32:17.642 --> 02:32:19.062 I don't think I need to go any farther. 02:32:22.123 --> 02:32:41.707 I think it should be very obvious now, I will point it out one more time, that this article and its promotion of it were done very exclusively by Team Robert Malone, specifically using the man Kevin McKernan, who's probably on the same team, maybe even smarter than Robert Malone in some ways in terms of 02:32:42.487 --> 02:33:01.673 of the state of the art of some of these things and coordinating with them were people like Archmedic or Jiki Leakes and also Jessica Rose who again promoted the idea that the diffuse proposal was evidence and that Alex Washburn was an authority and that Kevin McKernan is an authority who 02:33:02.293 --> 02:33:08.895 didn't bother to teach us all the things that he knew about restriction enzymes before this paper came out. 02:33:08.935 --> 02:33:13.116 But once the paper came out, I guess he all, wow, now it all makes sense to him. 02:33:13.636 --> 02:33:17.617 And so that's what's really sad about the idea that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 02:33:17.637 --> 02:33:21.018 and Charles Rixey and I supposedly needed to write this 02:33:21.738 --> 02:33:35.075 article explaining what happened in Alex Washburn's paper and that they all insisted that we not suggest that, well, the diffuse proposal could also be just bullshit so that all of these stories seem to fit together seamlessly. 02:33:36.803 --> 02:33:50.567 which is what I was trying to teach them at this time, and why I suggested very early on that Charles Rixey might be a bad guy, and that he actually was sent to my house in 2022 to make sure that I took the diffuse proposal seriously. 02:33:50.948 --> 02:33:54.669 That's actually why he came to my house in Pittsburgh in January of 2022. 02:33:58.737 --> 02:34:02.861 So he says I got him fired at CHD, but that's not true. 02:34:02.921 --> 02:34:13.570 He actually brought Kevin McCairn, Ness Commander, the guy that I streamed with five times at the beginning of the pandemic and I know is a liar in Japan or UK or wherever he lives. 02:34:14.751 --> 02:34:22.979 That guy was live in a Zoom meeting where we were going to discuss with the rest of the editing team the contents of this book. 02:34:24.215 --> 02:34:33.904 And when I told the rest of the editing team to go ahead and look up who Kevin McCarren is and look at his streams, they decided to fire Rixey for his association with that guy. 02:34:33.985 --> 02:34:41.392 And more importantly, for him allowing him to be president of a live Zoom meeting where there was an agreement that nobody could read this text but us. 02:34:43.311 --> 02:34:49.815 And yet somehow or another, they have gone around the world for three years making memes with me and a shotgun in my mouth. 02:34:49.855 --> 02:34:59.360 They are all part of the same team that is hiding this illusion of high fidelity genetic understanding of our biology and its usefulness to public health. 02:35:00.080 --> 02:35:08.045 Ladies and gentlemen, they wanted to make the diffuse proposal real again a couple years ago, and they failed because I can see through their bullshit. 02:35:08.125 --> 02:35:15.549 If you want to hear a summary of my summary of their bullshit, you can watch the Dear Senator Ron Johnson stream that I did yesterday. 02:35:16.050 --> 02:35:17.310 Thank you very much for joining me. 02:35:17.371 --> 02:35:19.432 These people won't talk about a background signal. 02:35:19.472 --> 02:35:20.773 They won't talk about PCR. 02:35:20.793 --> 02:35:23.614 They won't talk about transfection or transformation. 02:35:23.654 --> 02:35:27.497 They won't talk about infectious clones, even though Alex is right there. 02:35:28.157 --> 02:35:33.906 He's very close, but he admitted in that talk that his biological understanding is not mastery. 02:35:35.468 --> 02:35:40.816 It's just enough to come close to using the right words in combination correctly. 02:35:41.732 --> 02:35:50.818 And that's why he failed to explain what the fusion protein does and what the fear and cleavage site does, and if it's there or not there, and the role that it plays. 02:35:50.918 --> 02:36:02.606 He didn't say, for example, that according to their cartoon, that means that once you're infected with this virus, that it can spread through your tissues because when the fear and cleavage site is cut, you don't need an ACE2 receptor anymore. 02:36:02.887 --> 02:36:07.670 He didn't explain that because he doesn't understand their illusion well enough to see it. 02:36:10.503 --> 02:36:18.815 And that's why he doesn't understand that RNA cannot pandemic, because he's a mathematician who's masquerading as a biologist and we've got to not let these people do it. 02:36:19.176 --> 02:36:22.581 He used the word endemic to describe the virus that would leak. 02:36:23.222 --> 02:36:25.886 The virus that would pandemic would already be endemic. 02:36:26.906 --> 02:36:28.208 That's how silly he is. 02:36:28.248 --> 02:36:31.572 He doesn't even understand that that's not what endemicity means. 02:36:32.052 --> 02:36:39.060 Endemicity is a process that is hypothesized to have happened and be the source of these background signals. 02:36:39.501 --> 02:36:41.043 And this is all lost. 02:36:44.468 --> 02:36:48.570 It's all lost in a COVID shots are bad, don't talk about 2020 bullshit storm. 02:36:48.610 --> 02:36:51.311 And if we don't wake up from it soon, we're gonna be in trouble. 02:36:51.351 --> 02:36:54.172 We need a new consensus about the vaccine schedule in America. 02:36:54.612 --> 02:37:02.295 We need a new consensus about the, no, no, no, I don't know what that was doing. 02:37:02.736 --> 02:37:03.936 Hope that didn't screw anything up. 02:37:04.016 --> 02:37:05.357 What the hell just happened there? 02:37:06.837 --> 02:37:08.339 Okay, something weird happened there. 02:37:08.379 --> 02:37:09.420 I hope I'm still streaming. 02:37:10.160 --> 02:37:11.942 We need a new consensus about this stuff. 02:37:11.982 --> 02:37:14.484 We need a new consensus really fast. 02:37:14.524 --> 02:37:17.266 If you like what you saw, please share my work at any of these places. 02:37:17.767 --> 02:37:25.313 And if you have the means, our family is really, really struggling right now to make ends meet. 02:37:25.353 --> 02:37:28.336 We've kind of been going on fumes for a long time now. 02:37:28.376 --> 02:37:34.621 We've been relying on a couple big donors that pay like half of our rent every month. 02:37:35.407 --> 02:37:38.308 and the combination of two or three people and we're managed rent. 02:37:38.568 --> 02:37:45.350 And if any one of these three people can no longer support us, that will be the end in like one month. 02:37:45.590 --> 02:37:49.231 And so I'm not asking for anybody to put themselves out. 02:37:49.291 --> 02:37:58.273 I'm asking for people that are stumbling on the stream, that are finding out how long we've been here and how much we've sacrificed and how long we've maintained this record of integrity 02:37:59.013 --> 02:38:00.494 to decide to support us. 02:38:00.534 --> 02:38:06.956 And very soon I'm going to have a nonprofit that you can donate to, and maybe that will open more doors for people to assist with this. 02:38:08.176 --> 02:38:18.420 But I intend to make this a long-term effort to try and change the minds of as many young people as I can over the next few years while there's still a window for this change to happen. 02:38:18.460 --> 02:38:19.200 I love you very much. 02:38:19.240 --> 02:38:19.940 Thanks for being here. 02:38:19.960 --> 02:38:20.540 I'll see you tomorrow. 02:38:23.481 --> 02:38:24.982 Sorry if I blew out your ears there.