WEBVTT 00:00.262 --> 00:00.322 Oh. 00:19.415 --> 00:21.997 Neptune, eighth planet from the sun. 00:22.557 --> 00:23.438 A mystery now. 00:23.858 --> 00:26.980 We hope to have close-up photos from Voyager 2 in 1989. 00:27.461 --> 00:30.643 We do have them! 00:30.763 --> 00:32.044 They're my home screen. 00:32.424 --> 00:42.451 Miss Hoover, once again, the lesson plan I prepared would have covered this topic much better, but I can see... Miss Hoover. 00:43.311 --> 00:44.392 It's Tuesday, Lisa. 00:44.632 --> 00:45.773 Taco Tuesday. 00:46.334 --> 00:46.554 Oh! 00:58.338 --> 01:05.343 Oh no, I'm about to become another mopping statistic. 01:09.506 --> 01:11.508 There's only room for one of us, Ethel. 01:29.895 --> 01:31.676 Bart, that's your sixth taco. 01:31.916 --> 01:36.258 You know, Whitman says, if anything is sacred, the human body is sacred. 01:36.458 --> 01:36.959 Seven. 01:55.504 --> 02:00.106 Trust me, it's real. 02:00.186 --> 02:02.007 It's real. 02:02.147 --> 02:03.967 Full speed, Kevin. 02:25.339 --> 02:29.441 think, but you can tell if someone's lying, you know, you can sort of feel it in people. 02:31.242 --> 02:31.942 And I have lied. 02:31.962 --> 02:33.002 I'm sure I'll lie again. 02:33.022 --> 02:33.963 I don't want to lie. 02:34.443 --> 02:35.804 You know, I don't think I'm a liar. 02:35.904 --> 02:36.944 I try not to be a liar. 02:36.964 --> 02:37.805 I don't want to be a liar. 02:38.385 --> 02:41.106 I think it's like really important not to be a liar. 02:43.336 --> 02:45.257 the specialization should make you suspicious. 02:45.937 --> 02:52.179 Because if it's gotten harder to evaluate what's going on, then it's presumably gotten easier for people to lie and to exaggerate. 02:52.619 --> 02:54.580 And then one should be a little bit suspicious. 02:54.600 --> 02:57.121 And that's sort of my starting bias. 03:20.712 --> 03:23.436 You don't know my 03:54.206 --> 04:02.372 Take this message to my brother You will find him everywhere Wherever people live together 04:24.947 --> 04:37.221 Tired in poverty's despair Are you telling me the things you're gonna do for me? 04:37.782 --> 04:45.511 I ain't blind and I don't watch what I think I see Taking it to the next beat 06:43.874 --> 06:44.916 I'm Dr. Ryan Cole. 06:45.156 --> 06:45.597 I'm an MD. 06:45.617 --> 06:46.358 I'm a physician. 06:47.160 --> 06:51.768 Mayo Clinic trained anatomic clinical pathology subspecialty fellowship in dermatopathology. 06:51.788 --> 06:52.990 I do molecular biology. 06:53.010 --> 06:55.654 I've done over 150,000 COVID tests in my laboratory. 07:15.993 --> 07:17.914 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. 07:17.955 --> 07:19.255 This time could be different. 07:19.295 --> 07:21.077 Welcome to the show, ladies and gentlemen. 07:21.097 --> 07:27.682 We're still trying to take back the power from these charlatans, these acolytes of the charlatans, I guess you could call them. 07:28.782 --> 07:35.748 The illusion of consensus that these people have created, the illusion of consensus that these organizations have created. 07:36.428 --> 07:41.094 Brownstone Institute just paid for a trip for a lot of these people to go to Spain. 07:41.734 --> 07:48.662 Ladies and gentlemen, your consciousness is their prime real estate and they are playing you like a fiddle. 07:49.964 --> 07:52.447 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the show. 08:12.190 --> 08:18.114 Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is GigaOM Biological, a high-resistance, low-noise information brief brought to you by a biologist. 08:18.174 --> 08:19.054 It is April 1st. 08:19.094 --> 08:20.915 This is not an April Fool's stream. 08:20.955 --> 08:22.916 I'm not going to try and fool you about anything. 08:23.457 --> 08:30.381 In fact, I'm just going to try and deliver a succinct message about how they've been able to control the narrative and all the questions asked. 08:31.161 --> 08:54.703 so that after five years it's still only on this little tiny corner of the internet where you can hear someone say it as succinctly as RNA cannot pandemic intramuscular injections or dumb transfection was a crime and the population pyramids are a real problem that needed solving let's do it ladies and gentlemen if you need to support the stream would like to we would like you to support the stream gigoandbiological.com is the place to go 08:56.078 --> 08:59.539 We did not get very many more views or followers since Kim Iverson. 08:59.579 --> 09:05.200 However, Kim Iverson just had Tom Cowan on, so maybe there's an opportunity to get on there again. 09:05.260 --> 09:08.401 Ladies and gentlemen, you hear the voice of Jonathan J. Cooey. 09:09.121 --> 09:11.321 I am chief biologist at Gig Owen Biological. 09:12.021 --> 09:18.803 I have presented my ideas to lots of places since losing my job at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine. 09:18.823 --> 09:19.563 You can find the 09:20.492 --> 09:26.635 the evidence of my long academic career on the Library of Medicine's website, PubMed. 09:27.895 --> 09:31.697 You would be able to see lots of evidence of my work on this, too. 09:32.337 --> 09:34.118 You can see it on PubMed there, actually. 09:34.719 --> 09:44.323 With regard to COVID-19, where you can't see it, for example, is on the Panda website or on the Panda Rumble channel, because I presented there three separate times in 2023. 09:46.724 --> 09:58.615 or 2022, I think it was 2023, and those all got lost somehow because Nick Hudson, I guess, isn't very good at keeping the good presentations separate from the bad ones. 09:59.536 --> 10:05.301 The NCI is just really good at collecting thousands of hours of useless testimony, 10:06.082 --> 10:20.443 and uh not really sorting through what's important and what's not written not trying to figure out what happened just trying to create a historical document if you will the wellness company you know they're just trying to help people by selling little kits with zippers and uh 10:21.384 --> 10:30.307 The Children's Health Defense is really all about rising and resisting people over profits, truth over lies, and courage over fear. 10:30.407 --> 10:37.150 So far, they've scored so many touchdowns, it's hard to really list them all, other than to just say they've sold a lot of books. 10:38.270 --> 10:46.573 I helped them write one of them, the Wuhan cover-up, with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., now the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services. 10:47.073 --> 10:53.596 I presented my dismay with my current situation best and first and best, probably, at the Red Pill Expo. 10:54.136 --> 10:56.697 Thanks to G. Edward Griffin for letting me speak there. 10:57.857 --> 11:01.619 And, of course, I'm trying to work on this thing on the basketball court. 11:02.580 --> 11:04.641 And it actually has a lot to do with me getting in shape. 11:05.281 --> 11:10.244 So a lot of my time is now spent every day trying to turn this ship around, if you will. 11:10.284 --> 11:12.845 I'm a 53 year old man and far from young. 11:13.926 --> 11:15.267 This is GigaOM Biological. 11:15.307 --> 11:17.068 I hope to offer you some hope this morning. 11:18.248 --> 11:23.331 Some hope that no one and everyone, everyone's going to see this at some point. 11:23.391 --> 11:24.792 No one can ignore it anymore. 11:25.572 --> 11:38.785 The history of this biology, the history of these biological ideas, the history of the pandemic, and the history of these people is all going to come together in one beautiful story of awakening. 11:38.965 --> 11:40.346 And I'm very, very excited. 11:41.487 --> 11:45.691 If you're listening from a ladder, please make sure that you keep two hands for the ladder. 11:46.832 --> 11:48.314 This is GigaOM Biological. 11:48.334 --> 11:49.435 Let me just switch over here. 11:52.062 --> 11:52.922 Good morning, everybody. 11:52.962 --> 11:53.562 Welcome to the show. 11:53.582 --> 11:57.623 This is GigaOM Biological, a high-resistance, low-noise information brief brought to you by Biologist. 11:57.663 --> 12:00.624 My name is Jonathan Couey, coming to you live from my garage. 12:01.044 --> 12:04.265 It is April 1st, 2025, and this is no joke to me. 12:05.586 --> 12:14.468 We have put everything on the line for the last five years to try and get the truth out, and I stumbled and fell a few times in the first few years. 12:15.688 --> 12:23.955 I took paychecks not knowing why I was getting paid, trying to understand or believe that we were going to get free. 12:24.996 --> 12:41.008 And in the end, I find myself in the same wilderness I was at the beginning of the pandemic, but now with a little more self-assurance that where I am is closer to the truth than you can get by using social media skillfully. 12:44.386 --> 12:47.929 It's Tacos Tuesday, and tacos are not for everybody. 12:47.969 --> 12:52.413 Taco Tuesday is not for everyone, but it is for anyone who likes tacos. 12:53.254 --> 12:57.478 And Truth Tuesday would be, you know, for anybody who likes the truth. 12:58.799 --> 13:04.223 And this is definitely a message that's not for everyone, because not everyone wants to hear 13:05.034 --> 13:06.995 that it's about the grandchildren of Earth. 13:07.396 --> 13:11.219 For example, my brother doesn't want to hear that because he's not having any kids of his own. 13:11.299 --> 13:19.264 So essentially, it means that everything that's happening in the world right now has nothing to do with him and his choices don't matter at all. 13:19.325 --> 13:25.229 And what he says and what he passes on doesn't matter because he's not passing anything on. 13:26.434 --> 13:44.201 And that's the thing that has struck me most as a father of three during COVID-19, is that this whole psychological operation has, one aspect of it has been to separate us from our family and friends. 13:44.301 --> 13:47.382 It separated me successfully from my brother and his wife. 13:47.442 --> 13:51.104 It successfully separated me from my parents. 13:51.884 --> 14:02.606 And my parents and I are starting to work it out over email and text, but we're far from in regular communication and we're far from understanding where each other is. 14:05.407 --> 14:14.989 And they also could have potentially done that within households with a lot of kids, especially kids who went or were allowed to go back to college. 14:15.029 --> 14:16.309 And that's a crucial rift 14:17.165 --> 14:24.408 that is probably in existence in large swaths of America that we need to pay attention to. 14:25.088 --> 14:41.175 Because of course, when this is about the grandchildren of earth and the young adults that haven't yet had kids are being bombarded with messages about homosexuality and transsexuality and having kids is selfish and maybe you should only have one. 14:41.855 --> 14:51.942 They are setting up and perpetuating a population pyramid crisis that is going to lead to the depopulation of the earth inevitably. 14:52.943 --> 14:56.645 And it's not going to require a whole lot of extermination or famine. 14:57.166 --> 15:04.611 It's just going to happen because once, you know, 15 years from now, the population is going to look drastically different. 15:05.711 --> 15:11.055 And it won't have the same kind of nationalistic cohesion that it had when I was growing up. 15:11.996 --> 15:30.314 Despite growing up in a relatively completely white state as a brown kid, I still grow up thinking of myself as just an American white kid, even though when I look in the mirror, I understand I don't look like everybody else that I grew up with in northern Wisconsin. 15:32.580 --> 15:48.645 It's a mentality and the children of this generation are being raised to be hypersensitive to the outward facing phenotypes and what those supposedly mean about whether your ancestors were allowed to succeed or not. 15:49.325 --> 15:51.406 And this is an extraordinary place to be. 15:51.486 --> 16:00.469 It's part of the same mythology that has paralyzed us into believing that a novel virus is not only plausible, but obviously it happened and maybe even they covered it up. 16:03.149 --> 16:06.090 That's why there's a fake anti-vaccine movement in America. 16:06.150 --> 16:09.952 I mean, what better way for me to say it than that? 16:10.732 --> 16:13.854 There is an anti... I gotta put this up for a second. 16:13.894 --> 16:15.255 Hold on one minute. 16:16.595 --> 16:18.716 Just have to reset this guy over here. 16:20.117 --> 16:25.360 Sometimes the production crew, i.e. 16:25.420 --> 16:30.983 myself, is not ready to go with regard to... That's super tiny. 16:32.381 --> 16:33.181 I guess we can do that. 16:34.042 --> 16:34.942 Is this one going to be big? 16:35.583 --> 16:36.083 Am I big? 16:36.123 --> 16:36.343 Yes. 16:36.463 --> 16:36.663 Okay. 16:36.743 --> 16:37.584 I'm big over here. 16:37.684 --> 16:42.687 So I guess I could, I could technically do that, but I want to have the other one up, right? 16:42.967 --> 16:43.747 This one I want. 16:45.288 --> 16:45.528 Yeah. 16:45.568 --> 16:46.609 So it's for all the marbles. 16:46.649 --> 16:53.072 I mean, this is a message that's very hard to, to spread jovially. 16:54.553 --> 16:54.793 What? 16:54.973 --> 16:56.374 Why did you push that button? 16:56.454 --> 16:57.535 See, this is the kind of thing. 16:58.427 --> 17:00.410 And then I really don't want to be that tiny. 17:00.731 --> 17:01.652 I'd rather be bigger. 17:04.237 --> 17:07.422 It's not a very nice message to spread, but I think... 17:08.405 --> 17:30.044 This one is a little bit of a tweak on it because if your family and friends are Trump voters, if your family and friends are really into the Maha movement or believe in one or more of these pseudo heroes in this health freedom movement, then they are trapped by almost certainly 17:31.181 --> 17:34.682 what is best characterized as a fake anti-vaccine movement. 17:34.702 --> 17:59.570 And there may be very many people on the left who are wholly unaware of the idea that there is a genuine, verifiable, fake anti-vaccine movement, which has trapped a populist right into believing that they are in fact the anti-vaccine movement, legitimately fighting for things like free speech and free choice, 18:00.498 --> 18:07.162 Interestingly, if you're on the left, you know that free choice is often an argument used to motivate you. 18:07.742 --> 18:13.246 They have used health, freedom, and choice to motivate the right. 18:13.446 --> 18:18.849 And they have used a fake anti-vaccine movement with fake anti-vaxxers. 18:20.350 --> 18:27.254 And so if you could spread this message to your Trump voting friends, your Trump voting neighbors, not that Trump is bad, 18:28.624 --> 18:50.847 not that their ideas are wrong, but that the anti-vaccine movement in America has been fake since about 2015 when they went all in, full court press, and that you know a guy on the internet who could show them how it was done and give a few plausible reasons as to why it would have been done. 18:53.359 --> 18:56.161 you might be able to save your family and friends from that trap. 18:56.201 --> 19:04.966 And I'm not saying they're not going to vote for Trump, or they're not going to say that these other people are good guys, but they might cast doubt in the right direction. 19:05.226 --> 19:10.389 And the right direction to cast doubt is the fake anti-vaccine movement in America. 19:10.489 --> 19:12.030 Everything else is legitimate. 19:13.991 --> 19:14.191 I mean, 19:15.618 --> 19:22.143 in the sense of they are not doing something and being something else. 19:22.563 --> 19:26.486 Paul Offit is not pro-vaccine, but actually not. 19:28.806 --> 19:31.068 And that's the most important thing to understand. 19:31.168 --> 19:35.492 The anti-vaccine movement in America is almost exclusively fake. 19:35.712 --> 19:51.665 Everything that is widely visible and circulating and holding conferences and gathering here and there and everywhere, these are all fake actors that were inserted into this narrative before the COVID-19 pandemic. 19:53.237 --> 19:57.979 operation was even started, and most of them would even know that it was coming. 19:58.699 --> 20:07.603 None of them knew it was coming, but they were already in place, already doing the job of a fake anti-vaccine movement. 20:09.444 --> 20:17.547 And so the real message is, is that that same anti-vaccine movement assisted in covering up the murder and lies. 20:19.210 --> 20:38.599 murder and lies that were almost exclusively in America done with pure oxygen causing acute respiratory distress syndrome, you know the same thing that they blamed on COVID, that PCR was used malevolently for two or three years at least and maybe malevolently used up till today, although probably more sophisticatedly 20:39.867 --> 20:41.008 used in that way. 20:41.508 --> 20:47.310 And then finally, not using antibiotics for pneumonia or urinary tract infection or sepsis is a crime. 20:47.490 --> 20:49.111 It's an absolute crime. 20:49.151 --> 20:52.852 And that's what explains this graph right here, murder and lies. 20:53.392 --> 21:04.417 And so they need people on both sides of the aisle, on the left and the right, to ask really pressing, really important sounding questions that never ever approach 21:05.037 --> 21:07.419 these very simple conclusions. 21:07.519 --> 21:15.345 It could be about a lab leak, could be about natural virus, if you're in cleavage site, masks, social distancing, whether or not mandates are right. 21:15.905 --> 21:20.829 All of these things are hamster wheels that you can run in until the axle breaks. 21:22.370 --> 21:28.915 And you will never arrive at the possibility that murder and lies was used to create this mythology. 21:29.116 --> 21:31.978 Murder and lies is used to create this mythology. 21:34.468 --> 21:49.498 And so I hate to break it, you know, be that guy, but I just don't have any faith that anyone that is acting on stage is there by chance or is there to the chagrin of the directors of the show. 21:50.258 --> 21:54.000 And that's why, you know, we had the Honorable Tulsi Gabbard, 21:55.492 --> 22:00.857 I mean, it's what happened in front of Congress with this signal chat thing is kind of a joke, right? 22:01.077 --> 22:05.221 The fact that our, that Hagseth is basically made fun of as an alcoholic. 22:07.022 --> 22:14.287 that they're making fun of the, they're doing this stunt with this, this guy was set up to be this bad. 22:14.427 --> 22:22.953 Otherwise you can't explain why his FDA videos are so over the top ridiculous recommending the vaccine for children. 22:22.993 --> 22:25.235 He would, I saw that years ago. 22:26.872 --> 22:40.563 If you want to hear the honest truth about it, I heard at least three or four different actors in this show say that they called Marx to tell him not to do it to kids or something like that. 22:42.304 --> 22:47.508 I mean, there are lots of pieces to this puzzle that we haven't even dropped into the picture yet. 22:48.068 --> 22:52.332 And a couple of those pieces of the puzzle have to do with how many of these actors 22:53.393 --> 22:59.897 during the timeline of COVID went specifically for the FDA and specifically for Peter Marks. 23:00.397 --> 23:07.561 A couple of these actors actually claim to have personal contact, went to school with, have his cell phone number. 23:09.659 --> 23:21.389 And so to think that the very public firing resignation of this guy and the debate around why the circumstances are as they are is by chance is absurd. 23:21.910 --> 23:30.157 We were primed to see Peter Marks where he is right now already three or four years ago by these social media performers. 23:31.138 --> 23:35.442 The people that I'm identifying as those that are covering up for this murder and lies. 23:36.499 --> 23:40.302 and they're actively working, they're paid to be on social media. 23:40.362 --> 23:46.086 I know this is not a message for everybody, but anyone can hear that this is a message of hope. 23:46.166 --> 23:47.708 This means it's very simple. 23:48.646 --> 23:51.627 We just need to see the liars for what they're doing. 23:52.468 --> 23:56.790 Identify the way that they coordinate their message and then call them out on it. 23:57.770 --> 24:07.335 Not allow them to parade around on social media as if these interactions and these interviewing other people who interview other people is solving any problems. 24:08.271 --> 24:20.396 that the opinion of people who interview other people is even relevant if they're not actively trying to learn and demonstrating that they have some idea of how to synthesize recent events. 24:22.757 --> 24:26.418 Again, it's not a message for everyone, but it's a message for anyone who wants to know the truth. 24:27.861 --> 24:30.983 And so, I like to start with the truth all of the time. 24:31.564 --> 24:33.385 I think everyone should begin with the truth. 24:33.445 --> 24:36.847 The illusion is sustained only through your participation. 24:37.608 --> 24:40.109 Transfection in healthy people is a crime. 24:41.450 --> 24:42.771 RNA cannot pandemic. 24:43.532 --> 24:45.553 And intramuscular injection is dumb. 24:45.613 --> 24:46.414 It's not medicine. 24:47.374 --> 24:52.738 And these truths we've been saying for quite some time, all are there and part of 24:53.473 --> 24:56.057 the main illusion, which is that the U.S. 24:56.097 --> 24:57.880 vaccine schedule is a criminal enterprise. 24:57.920 --> 25:07.335 And if anybody wanted to show you that before the pandemic or during it, all they would have to do is suggest that you compare it to any other vaccine schedule in the Western world. 25:08.055 --> 25:16.623 And it would already become apparent to you that both the way we do it, the number of doses we do it, and how early we do it is malevolent. 25:17.264 --> 25:26.653 Nevermind if what I say is true, that intramuscular injection in general is dumb, then every vaccine schedule is a criminal enterprise. 25:26.673 --> 25:28.674 So that's a pretty bold statement to make. 25:29.535 --> 25:50.373 on the internet and on youtube and have people just kind of ignore you and and send malicious emails about how you're lying about them or something like that ladies and gentlemen i'm just saying it you got to learn biology that's the way out if you can't learn it from me buy some books and read but you got to learn biology because it's for all the marbles this is definitely for all the marbles 25:51.015 --> 25:52.616 It's for all the grandchildren of earth. 25:52.896 --> 26:00.039 And so we need to get to people and get them to understand that there is a fake anti-vaccine movement in America. 26:01.100 --> 26:10.785 We need to get them to understand that very, very much by making them, challenging them to ask the question, what progress have they made? 26:12.426 --> 26:14.727 And that's why I really like making a calendar 26:15.789 --> 26:33.914 Here's a calendar for somebody that I know named Brandy who in 2015 started to think about whether or not vaccines should be mandated and was wondering why they would be and had an unvaccinated son and in about a year had progressed to the point where she was teaching people in person 26:34.514 --> 26:47.385 that they should just consider the broad ideas of injection versus ingestion of a pharmaceutical and then consider the fact that the injection doesn't have any liability that's very strange because the injection is full of garbage 26:49.870 --> 27:02.154 And that's a mom with an unvaccinated child who regularly says that she feels bad because, you know, she didn't really even speak out about her unvaccinated child until she was kind of forced to accept a mandate in California. 27:02.174 --> 27:05.055 And then she spoke out and that was already kind of late. 27:05.095 --> 27:06.696 She could have saved more people than that. 27:07.936 --> 27:09.337 She happened to be dead on December 7th, 2020. 27:11.596 --> 27:13.656 So that's one timeline you could compare. 27:14.076 --> 27:27.599 If you are an anti-vaccine person, I think a very legitimate place to get is where GigaOM Biological, myself, got all by ourselves without really knowing that Brandy had already gotten there. 27:27.919 --> 27:38.981 Maybe because it's hard to understand the significance of this conceptual location, this dichotomy between injection and ingestion and all of the biological differences therein. 27:40.071 --> 27:49.517 And I was just starting to say intramuscular injection is dumb, as Brandy was pointed out to me again by viewers, not by anybody else. 27:49.577 --> 27:51.498 It's certainly not the social media algorithm. 27:51.538 --> 27:53.759 If you like that, you might like Brandy Botton. 27:53.779 --> 27:54.580 That didn't happen. 27:55.506 --> 28:09.991 Let's compare the timeline of another guy in 2013, whose son was injured, given many vaccines coincident with an ear canal infection, questioned the rationale of vaccination in general, doesn't even use the word autism. 28:10.011 --> 28:17.354 He thinks that word is kind of bullshit and just calls his son vaccine injured or neurologically damaged. 28:17.934 --> 28:21.955 And he had 16 years of experience genetically modifying plants. 28:22.015 --> 28:23.716 Now, if this dude 28:25.205 --> 28:31.670 If this dude, because remember the Brandy that we talked about was, you know, 2015, 16, and then she was dead in 2020. 28:32.611 --> 28:40.076 This guy, 2013, he already knows, like years before Brandy, that autism's kind of a scam. 28:40.136 --> 28:42.118 I don't even know if vaccine is good. 28:42.218 --> 28:44.700 Certainly giving many vaccines is nuts. 28:45.541 --> 28:48.503 And he's a plant geneticist transforming guy, you know. 28:51.822 --> 28:57.868 Would it surprise you that in 2020 that guy was a health freedom anti-mandate activist? 28:58.349 --> 29:04.314 Would it surprise you that he was still telling the story about his kid getting vaccines during an ear infection? 29:04.835 --> 29:09.580 Would it surprise you that he already knew that COVID spread asymptomatically for about a week? 29:10.120 --> 29:22.644 Would it surprise you that he was already advocating for more PCR testing, or that antibodies are a not-so-perfect model for immunity, but we can still talk about them because natural immunity is real? 29:24.004 --> 29:30.426 Did you realize that he was just arguing that the vaccines, the COVID vaccine studies, were underpowered? 29:33.092 --> 29:48.063 The guy who didn't want to call it autism, but wanted to call it vaccine damage, wasn't even sure which one did it, was now a guy who worked on transfections and transformations in plants, was calling them vaccines and just complaining about the power in the study. 29:49.104 --> 29:53.227 He didn't say anything about what they really were, and he didn't mention brandy being dead. 29:55.069 --> 29:57.851 You know, the lady that said ingestion versus injection. 29:59.206 --> 30:09.572 Would it surprise you that that guy's been in front of the Senate and now is one of the main leaders of the health freedom movement that opposes medical mandates, advocates for free speech and free choice, and wants safe vaccines? 30:09.612 --> 30:14.975 Would that surprise you or would you be disturbed, especially if it followed five years of a pandemic? 30:15.675 --> 30:19.918 2013 to 2025, how's that for a timeline? 30:19.958 --> 30:21.979 Compare that timeline to Brandy's timeline. 30:23.510 --> 30:26.453 Hey guys, we're incredibly lucky today to have Dr. Anthony Fauci. 30:26.473 --> 30:27.794 How about this timeline? 30:27.854 --> 30:28.735 Here's Dr. Mike. 30:28.755 --> 30:31.338 Allergy and infectious disease branch of the NIH. 30:31.598 --> 30:35.422 You may have seen him on stage with Trump as he's part of the coronavirus task force. 30:35.622 --> 30:37.604 He's going to be answering some of our questions today. 30:37.924 --> 30:38.685 Let's get right to it. 30:38.945 --> 30:40.027 Dr. Mike, how are you? 30:40.668 --> 30:41.268 How's it going? 30:41.429 --> 30:44.433 Running around like a maniac here, but other than that, I'm good. 30:44.853 --> 30:45.654 I can only imagine. 30:45.695 --> 30:49.840 I heard your wife was forcing you to get at least four or five hours of sleep. 30:49.900 --> 30:50.982 I'm proud of her for doing that. 30:51.322 --> 30:54.407 Yes, four hours is all I'm doing, but she's the one that's doing it. 30:55.107 --> 30:56.848 All right, fair enough. 30:57.228 --> 31:00.730 Well, first of all, let me say a huge thank you for joining us on the YouTube channel. 31:01.051 --> 31:03.752 Everyone in the YouTube community really appreciates what you're doing. 31:04.112 --> 31:09.235 My whole channel is about fact checking, putting out accurate info, and you've essentially become the face for that. 31:09.636 --> 31:12.037 So huge thanks from all of us for that. 31:12.938 --> 31:15.839 Let's start by talking about social distancing. 31:15.979 --> 31:18.881 It's something that I've explained to my audience that's incredibly important. 31:18.961 --> 31:21.923 That's how we control the spread of this virus, the run on hospitals. 31:22.523 --> 31:25.425 There's been a lot of talk recently about curtailing that. 31:26.125 --> 31:30.768 I'm curious, not so much about the date, because as you said, the virus doesn't have a timeline. 31:31.448 --> 31:37.692 What is the yardstick that we're gonna be using to measure when it may be safe to curtail the social distancing? 31:37.752 --> 31:42.835 Is it number of those who are ill, fatalities, hospital preparedness, what say you? 31:42.955 --> 31:49.880 Well, it's a combination of things and it's gonna- Okay, so first of all, let's just point out the fact that Tony Fauci 31:50.896 --> 31:54.918 There's something really strange here, and in retrospect, you can see it, okay? 31:55.058 --> 31:56.739 I want to challenge you to see it. 31:58.420 --> 32:17.929 We are supposed to believe that Tony Fauci, on March 29th, 2020, is already keenly aware for a couple months that a lab leak, gain-of-function virus, has been leaked onto Earth and will likely go endemic. 32:19.082 --> 32:21.745 and kill maybe billions of people. 32:22.625 --> 32:24.187 And they may have funded it. 32:25.548 --> 32:31.974 There may be a paper trail, includes grant applications that will lead back to him. 32:35.538 --> 32:38.821 And we're supposed to believe that this is how cool he is. 32:41.003 --> 32:44.086 That this is, you know, running around, really excited. 32:47.418 --> 32:49.860 Think about that very carefully, please. 32:49.920 --> 32:51.161 It's something to consider. 32:51.181 --> 32:53.523 I'm gonna so much that I want you to watch it again. 32:53.543 --> 32:55.164 We become the face for that. 32:55.204 --> 32:55.744 How's it going? 32:55.904 --> 32:56.885 Running around like a maniac. 32:57.165 --> 32:57.806 Task force. 32:58.006 --> 33:00.007 He's gonna be answering some of our questions today. 33:00.308 --> 33:01.088 Let's get right to it. 33:01.348 --> 33:02.409 Dr. Mike, how are you? 33:03.070 --> 33:03.650 How's it going? 33:03.830 --> 33:06.692 Running around like a maniac here, but other than that, I'm good. 33:07.113 --> 33:07.933 I can only imagine. 33:07.953 --> 33:12.096 I heard your wife was forcing you to get at least four or five hours of sleep. 33:12.156 --> 33:13.237 I'm proud of her for doing that. 33:13.578 --> 33:16.660 Yeah, four hours is all I'm doing, but she's the one that's doing it. 33:17.361 --> 33:19.103 All right, fair enough. 33:19.483 --> 33:22.987 Well, first of all, let me say a huge thank you for joining us on the YouTube channel. 33:23.327 --> 33:26.010 Everyone in the YouTube community really appreciates what you're doing. 33:26.371 --> 33:31.497 My whole channel is about fact checking, putting out accurate info, and you've essentially become the face for that. 33:31.897 --> 33:33.859 So huge thanks from all of us for that. 33:35.181 --> 33:37.443 Let's start by talking about social distancing. 33:38.224 --> 33:41.127 It's something that I've explained to my audience that's incredibly important. 33:41.207 --> 33:44.211 That's how we control the spread of this virus, the run on hospitals. 33:44.791 --> 33:47.715 There's been a lot of talk recently about curtailing that. 33:48.375 --> 33:53.020 I'm curious, not so much about the date, because as you said, the virus doesn't have a timeline. 33:53.701 --> 33:59.946 what is the yardstick that we're gonna be using to measure when it may be safe to curtail the social distancing? 34:00.006 --> 34:05.089 Is it number of those who are ill, fatalities, hospital preparedness, what say you? 34:05.209 --> 34:12.315 Well, it's a combination of things and it's gonna be different through different regions of the country because you can't look at it as unidimensional. 34:12.495 --> 34:17.779 I mean, New York is clearly different from Washington and it's clearly different from Alabama. 34:18.459 --> 34:20.761 But in direct answer to your question, 34:21.337 --> 34:22.638 you look at two things. 34:22.758 --> 34:26.479 You look at the kinetics of the outbreak when you're in the middle of an outbreak. 34:26.539 --> 34:44.306 So once it starts reaching that point of plateauing a bit and coming down, you don't want to stop the social distancing, but you may be able to relieve the restrictions on movement in order to get basic supplies to people so that they're not just locked down. 34:44.446 --> 34:49.908 If you have an area that has very few cases, what you want to do is you want to test 34:50.663 --> 34:55.185 a lot in that area to get a feel for what the penetrance of the virus is. 34:55.645 --> 35:04.088 And when you get an individual case, you want to immediately identify it, isolate it, contact trace it and get it out of society. 35:04.469 --> 35:10.711 If you do that efficiently, you may be able to open up that community because you're doing good containment. 35:11.337 --> 35:15.680 You know, the two major pillars of containment, we try to stop the spread. 35:16.160 --> 35:17.881 And the other is mitigation. 35:17.941 --> 35:20.083 When you say, oh, my goodness, it's here. 35:20.583 --> 35:22.584 What are we going to do to prevent it from getting worse? 35:22.725 --> 35:31.050 Do you think that there would be any conditions where you think politicians may act too soon and start saying, let's start opening up some of these restrictions? 35:31.370 --> 35:33.832 What would happen in a red alert type scenario like that? 35:34.301 --> 35:35.861 Well, I think that would be unfortunate. 35:35.921 --> 35:39.182 And that's the thing that we that we advise against. 35:39.422 --> 35:48.165 If you do open up too soon, you can have the perverse effect that in as it's going this way, then it starts going back up. 35:48.665 --> 35:54.907 And then you essentially compound the need for the kind of things respirators, ventilators, 35:55.655 --> 35:57.998 hospital beds, ICU, things like that. 35:58.138 --> 36:05.325 You've talked a little bit about seasonality, the possibility that this virus may go away for the summer may return in the fall, certainly not a definite. 36:05.566 --> 36:10.070 But if that were to happen, what preparations can we take as ordinary citizens for the fall? 36:10.611 --> 36:14.735 And myself as someone who's on the front lines as a family medicine doctor, what can we do? 36:15.676 --> 36:17.058 Okay, first of all, 36:18.297 --> 36:28.307 If that happens, and to be honest with you, I think it's going to happen, I really don't see something as robustly transmitted as this disappearing the way SARS did. 36:28.828 --> 36:41.901 Particularly if we start to see an increase in infections in the Southern Hemisphere, Southern Africa, places like that, now as they enter their winter, which means for sure a cycle will come back. 36:42.461 --> 36:53.928 That means that as we go down in our cases, we've got to use that time to prepare that it doesn't happen to us to the extent that it did the first time around. 36:54.069 --> 36:56.730 That's why we've got to do the vaccine development that we're doing. 36:57.090 --> 37:02.294 We've got to do clinical trials in drugs, randomized controlled trials that prove things work. 37:02.874 --> 37:04.916 as opposed to maybe they're going to work. 37:05.076 --> 37:16.306 Those are the things that we need to do, as well as get the kind of testing capabilities so that you can do good containment without waiting until it gets into mitigation. 37:16.807 --> 37:17.908 We may have a window 37:18.664 --> 37:19.785 And it's not going to be over. 37:19.826 --> 37:22.469 We're going to breathe a sigh of relief when it starts to go down. 37:22.909 --> 37:25.652 But we need to gird ourselves that it may come back. 37:25.772 --> 37:27.134 You mentioned the clinical trials. 37:27.174 --> 37:31.179 There's hundreds of clinical trials going on right now testing all sorts of combinations. 37:31.299 --> 37:33.862 First, I'm going to stop here and move this this 37:36.535 --> 37:41.101 this line over because it should be after the first peaks. 37:41.201 --> 37:44.144 It's March 29th and that first peak is like right there. 37:44.204 --> 37:53.915 So we're on the way down and that's why they're calling, they're talking like this because the first wave has been stopped by the lockdown. 37:56.079 --> 38:00.123 And now they're talking about what happens if people open up too early. 38:00.183 --> 38:04.567 So one of the questions that's really important is whether people should open up early. 38:04.627 --> 38:13.114 He's starting to throw out a lot of words like contact tracing and containment and mitigation, respirators and ventilators. 38:14.075 --> 38:16.017 And seasonality is gonna happen. 38:16.057 --> 38:17.198 It's gonna come back. 38:17.318 --> 38:18.919 He's sure it's gonna come back. 38:18.979 --> 38:20.360 It's not gonna be like SARS-1. 38:21.673 --> 38:23.594 It's too contagious for that. 38:24.135 --> 38:29.379 So we need to start randomized control trials, because that's how you know if something works. 38:30.199 --> 38:33.342 Of course, we're not going to apply that to the COVID-19 vaccine. 38:33.362 --> 38:34.322 That would be absurd. 38:34.843 --> 38:36.844 And if we do, it's going to be underpowered. 38:36.904 --> 38:40.947 And there'll be people like Brian Hooker to tell us there weren't enough people in the trial. 38:41.047 --> 38:44.470 Or even Steve Kirsch can point out that, hey, look, some people died. 38:46.596 --> 38:51.303 So we've the testing capabilities are coming up here and this guy just goes along with it. 38:51.343 --> 38:57.132 This is just unwitting, you know, this is a a a well-trained 38:57.918 --> 38:58.479 physician. 38:59.019 --> 39:01.622 And so he's not going to question any of this stuff. 39:01.642 --> 39:06.246 He doesn't have the broad background in biology to be able to question this stuff. 39:06.707 --> 39:13.193 He has been thrown as much information as his brain could handle and hold on to in the last four or five years. 39:13.734 --> 39:19.440 And this training has resulted in no understanding, only flowcharts that he can move through. 39:20.180 --> 39:22.381 and assumptions that he works from. 39:22.541 --> 39:29.684 And the assumption that he's working from, number one, being this guy is a good guy, telling him, you know, the real thing here. 39:31.545 --> 39:36.126 Remdesivir, hydroxychloroquine, even plasma transfusions are all on the table. 39:36.647 --> 39:39.488 I know that we don't have any randomized controlled results yet. 39:40.088 --> 39:44.070 Do you have a medication or a treatment that you think is a front runner at this time? 39:44.730 --> 39:49.692 Well, you know, we have a remdesivir trial, that we do have a randomized controlled trial, and I would hope 39:50.345 --> 40:03.031 that within the next couple of months or less, and I would say or less, we're either gonna get an efficacy signal, then we can say, well, let's do it, let it rip with that drug, or we're gonna get nothing. 40:03.332 --> 40:05.793 And then we'll say, get it off the table and stop wasting time. 40:06.313 --> 40:08.214 But I think that's gonna be reasonably soon. 40:08.934 --> 40:15.938 And also the plasma transfusions, immune globulin, those kinds of things, monoclonal antibodies, they're all gonna be going into testing. 40:16.278 --> 40:17.478 Okay. 40:17.578 --> 40:23.640 What I meant about the randomized controlled studies is that we don't have the results to those studies yet, because that's why it's difficult to pick a frontrunner. 40:24.020 --> 40:25.041 We don't have the results. 40:25.381 --> 40:27.541 The N is not big enough yet. 40:27.961 --> 40:29.582 When we get a big enough N, we'll know. 40:30.102 --> 40:30.582 Absolutely. 40:30.762 --> 40:31.602 We need them empowered. 40:31.742 --> 40:37.204 Young people, they seem to be more affected, or at least that's what the media is telling us here in the United States. 40:37.364 --> 40:38.024 Is that true? 40:38.164 --> 40:40.525 And if so, why here more than in China? 40:40.805 --> 40:41.627 That's a good question. 40:42.008 --> 40:48.425 Everybody knows that the original China data made it look like young people virtually never got involved in a serious way. 40:49.108 --> 40:59.698 Then as we start getting into Italy, looking a little bit more like us, France, European countries and ourselves, we're starting to see individuals in their 30s and 40s. 40:59.758 --> 41:04.062 Now, if you look at them, still many of them have underlying conditions. 41:04.342 --> 41:10.508 What I'm suggesting is that they only had to do it to a few of those people with supplementary oxygen. 41:11.312 --> 41:19.846 and high flow and they could kill anybody they wanted to in a few hours they would develop acute respiratory distress syndrome and then any number of paths could take them to death. 41:21.309 --> 41:24.774 In addition of course the age the expected 41:29.418 --> 41:39.723 The life expectancy in America has gone down largely due to the opioid crisis that was allowed to go bananas from 2019 forward. 41:40.423 --> 41:47.387 And even if it is a little bit curtailing now, for the last five years it has been brutal and definitely contributed to 41:48.027 --> 41:51.949 an inordinate amount of people under the age of 40 dying. 41:51.989 --> 41:57.372 And that's a significant thing that at the time we could not have seen. 41:57.973 --> 42:02.395 We could have not realized the role that it would play in this narrative. 42:02.455 --> 42:16.703 And actually, it's hard to conceive of how few of these people, these victims of supplementary oxygen would be required in order for this to create more than an anecdotal impression on people. 42:17.406 --> 42:20.527 I mean, again, these are people on the internet are agreeing this is true. 42:21.368 --> 42:26.270 Even though they're 30 or 40, they have diabetes, they have hypertension, they have things like that. 42:26.330 --> 42:32.952 But if you look closely, you will see that there are young people who are otherwise well, who can get seriously ill. 42:33.413 --> 42:44.097 So we need to forget this, that if you're young, you're good to go, you have no... Anybody can get seriously ill if they go to the hospital testing positive for COVID, maybe having a low pulse ox, 42:46.984 --> 42:48.747 and given supplementary oxygen. 42:48.808 --> 42:58.725 That's the frustrating part about all these guys that are talking smack about there being no virus, because they have no explanation for what happened to people. 42:59.875 --> 43:03.419 But people who are wearing masks can have respiratory distress. 43:03.459 --> 43:22.138 People who are using a pulse oximeter to monitor their pulse ox for the first time in their life may be unaware that their pulse ox is regularly low because of their smoking or their lack of athletic prowess or their wearing of an N95 mask for eight hours a day because the TV's told them to. 43:24.116 --> 43:34.182 If you go to the hospital complaining of low pulse ox and they gave you supplementary oxygen in 2020, you may have been murdered. 43:37.283 --> 43:41.526 And it's interesting because we still need an explanation for why people died. 43:41.566 --> 43:45.968 We still need an explanation for why people got sick, specifically in hospitals. 43:46.569 --> 43:52.132 And it doesn't seem like very many people have the simple explanation that we're trying to give. 43:52.751 --> 44:00.139 which you guys all know very well now, if, shit, sorry about that. 44:01.280 --> 44:04.463 That's just for the green screen. 44:06.766 --> 44:13.853 If antigen tests and quick at home COVID tests were bullshit in 2020, 44:16.437 --> 44:20.738 and pulse ox from masks was enough. 44:21.478 --> 44:34.100 If these two things, or even just one of the two, could get you to go to a hospital like the FLCC told you to do, go to seek treatment if you test positive or if your pulse ox is below 96%. 44:34.560 --> 44:43.802 If you sought treatment because the TV terrified you, chances are, if you were given supplementary oxygen, you might have also been murdered. 44:45.211 --> 44:52.715 or potentially murdered, had things gone south for you, that's all you need to create a pandemic. 44:52.735 --> 44:53.415 See, nothing else. 44:54.656 --> 44:57.077 Now there are ways we could enhance it. 44:57.117 --> 44:59.539 There's ways that we could make it even more foolproof. 45:00.139 --> 45:08.964 And there are proven molecular biological techniques that don't need smoke and mirrors, don't need virology, don't need any of that stuff to be true. 45:10.273 --> 45:22.246 And yet for some reason or another, this is the only channel on the internet that can explain to you that it is as simple as misconstruing a background with spread. 45:23.107 --> 45:31.176 If these tests just misconstrued a background signal or many background signals has evidence of spread, 45:33.709 --> 45:38.692 And these things could be used to justify the use of supplementary oxygen. 45:38.792 --> 45:42.354 These things could be used to justify supplementary oxygen. 45:42.374 --> 45:43.215 There you have it. 45:43.575 --> 45:44.455 Murder and lies. 45:45.556 --> 45:52.320 And do you think for one second that this is a guy who thinks that the plan is about to fail? 45:53.621 --> 45:56.943 That if he says the wrong word that somebody might figure it out? 45:58.244 --> 46:01.846 Or does this look like a guy who's absolutely sure 46:02.910 --> 46:11.577 that there's no danger to him, no danger to his family, no danger to the people around him, and that everything is under control. 46:13.798 --> 46:14.779 Because that's what I see. 46:15.439 --> 46:27.028 I see a guy who knows exactly how the narrative is going to go, exactly how the narrative is going to be kept on the rails, and knows exactly that they have enough people in place on the internet to do it. 46:27.188 --> 46:30.751 And this guy, unwittingly, is one of them. 46:32.677 --> 46:35.999 Maybe wittingly, he just likes to be a part of saving the world. 46:36.099 --> 46:37.000 Sure, I get it. 46:37.680 --> 46:40.522 I thought I was doing that too when I was screaming lab leak in 2020. 46:46.607 --> 46:50.710 Problem, there are two issues with younger people you need to consider. 46:50.730 --> 46:58.475 A, you need to avoid infection just like everybody else, not only for your own health, but even if you get trivially involved, 46:59.142 --> 47:06.051 you can be a vector that would ultimately infect someone who does have a real risk of serious conditions. 47:06.431 --> 47:17.845 It's kind of like the young, healthy 25-year-old gets infected, goes home, infects grandma and grandpa or a 40-year-old uncle who has metastatic disease on chemotherapy. 47:17.885 --> 47:18.646 That's the problem. 47:18.746 --> 47:22.509 There's been some talk about the possibility of reinfection with COVID-19. 47:22.990 --> 47:30.436 Now, do you think that this is more an issue with testing, that the test remains positive, or are they truly being infected for a second time with the virus? 47:30.796 --> 47:35.160 You know, I don't know the answer to that 100%, but I would be willing to bet 47:35.800 --> 47:47.889 on my experience, and I'll bet your experience, that any virus that you have, if you do well, recover and clear the virus, if it acts like any other virus, you're gonna have lasting immunity. 47:48.029 --> 47:49.590 You're not gonna get reinfected. 47:49.830 --> 47:56.595 Yeah, the way that I've thought about it is there's certain illnesses where you get lifelong immunity, chickenpox, measles with your two vaccinations. 47:56.975 --> 48:02.639 So maybe this won't be lifelong immunity, but to say there's none where you can- I mean, there's a nice script right there, right? 48:02.759 --> 48:03.180 Oh, sorry. 48:03.720 --> 48:04.520 I didn't mean to do that. 48:04.760 --> 48:06.200 It's a nice script right there. 48:06.360 --> 48:13.242 He's saying, let me just escape and start that again, and then I will pause the video. 48:15.862 --> 48:23.403 He's saying- Hey guys, we're incredibly lucky today to have Dr. Anthony- Literally looking a little bit more like us, France, Europe. 48:23.643 --> 48:28.564 He's saying that there were two parts of that script that I thought was really good. 48:28.624 --> 48:32.105 First of all, he said that there are certain diseases like chicken pox, 48:33.288 --> 48:38.474 where you get lifelong immunity, or from your two measles shots. 48:39.155 --> 48:44.821 So that's not really the right way for him to have said that in that context, of course, because there is a rule. 48:45.322 --> 48:50.368 If you are born before 1957, you're not even recommended to take a measles shot. 48:50.428 --> 48:50.648 Why? 48:50.728 --> 48:52.070 Because you already had it. 48:55.199 --> 48:58.601 And the vaccine isn't really good for people that had it for some reason. 48:58.641 --> 49:10.810 The primary counter indication for any vaccine was prior infection to that target, which is interesting because that whole principle was thrown out during this. 49:11.711 --> 49:16.074 If you had it, you were still recommended to get it, at least by the CDC. 49:17.495 --> 49:21.238 And so he says lasting immunity, he doesn't say natural immunity. 49:22.465 --> 49:25.708 And this guy says lifelong immunity, not natural immunity. 49:26.189 --> 49:35.036 And of course, the other side, the right side, the fake anti-vaccine movement was very focused on the two words natural immunity, natural immunity. 49:35.577 --> 49:43.043 That was Mike Eden and Ryan Cole primarily were saying natural immunity, not lasting immunity or lifelong immunity. 49:44.104 --> 49:47.888 And you see that, that is a subtle difference that is part of this enchantment. 49:47.908 --> 49:48.889 It's designed that way. 49:50.093 --> 49:55.197 countries and ourselves, we're starting to see individuals in their 30s and 40s. 49:55.277 --> 50:01.222 Now, if you look at them, still, many of them have underlying conditions, even though they're 30 or 40. 50:01.262 --> 50:04.924 They have diabetes, they have hypertension, they have things like that. 50:04.984 --> 50:11.609 But if you look closely, you will see that there are young people who are otherwise well who can get seriously ill. 50:12.070 --> 50:16.313 So we need to forget this, that if you're young, you're good to go, you have no problem. 50:16.693 --> 50:19.115 There are two issues with younger people you need to consider. 50:20.000 --> 50:27.755 A, you need to avoid infection just like everybody else, not only for your own health, but even if you get trivially involved. 50:28.422 --> 50:35.347 you can be a vector that would ultimately infect someone who does have a real risk of serious conditions. 50:35.728 --> 50:47.116 It's kind of like the young, healthy 25-year-old gets infected, goes home, infects grandma and grandpa, or a 40-year-old uncle who has metastatic disease on chemotherapy. 50:47.156 --> 50:47.997 That's the problem. 50:48.317 --> 50:54.202 I think some people are unfortunately, darn it, I, is that right? 50:56.431 --> 51:03.016 I think some people are misunderstanding the supplementary oxygen narrative and getting a lot of sand in their folds. 51:03.736 --> 51:09.460 And it's unfortunate because it oftentimes is the same people who get the sand in their folds. 51:09.560 --> 51:18.506 So please take a deep breath and try to understand that the words have meaning and concept beyond the words themselves. 51:19.724 --> 51:35.720 If you understand that there are thousands of ways to kill people once they come to a hospital complaining of low pulse ox or complaining of a COVID-19 positive test, if you understand that, then you're on the same page as me. 51:38.563 --> 51:42.447 What I'm trying to point out is that all of those other things 51:43.576 --> 51:50.863 are covered by this bullshit narrative of these people had all kinds of comorbidities, so they were easier to kill. 51:52.604 --> 51:54.226 They were easier to kill. 51:55.467 --> 52:02.953 We have a much better narrative for why they died, and we can blame it on their positive COVID test and their comorbidities. 52:04.095 --> 52:07.678 Yes, there's lots of ways to kill people, but healthy people 52:08.595 --> 52:11.236 that came into the hospital because they were scared. 52:11.296 --> 52:29.344 Young people that came in because they were scared needed a fast track to the point where they could be not treated for pneumonia because pneumonia from a virus doesn't respond to antibiotics can be done with just supplementary oxygen. 52:29.604 --> 52:32.666 One of the progressions of ARDS is pneumonia. 52:33.789 --> 52:35.910 secondary bacterial pneumonia. 52:35.970 --> 52:40.113 The whole word secondary bacterial pneumonia is so stupid. 52:42.974 --> 52:49.198 And so be very careful in trying to criticize this work. 52:50.558 --> 52:57.642 If you think that I'm not delivering this message correctly, it's time for you to get your own stream and start trying to deliver it yourself. 52:57.842 --> 52:58.283 Everybody, 52:59.309 --> 53:05.252 It's time to start making your own posters, taking your own t-shirts and selling them, doing your own work. 53:06.573 --> 53:08.233 If it's that easy, do it. 53:09.054 --> 53:17.798 Because what I'm trying to do is convince people on the left that there is a fake anti-vaccine movement and it is contiguous with this fake COVID. 53:19.514 --> 53:36.658 And none of the people in the fake anti-vaccine movement have been able to explain how easy it would be to create the illusion of a pandemic using supplementary oxygen to get healthy people on the same road as people with comorbidities in a hospital. 53:38.058 --> 53:40.059 And you don't have to do it to that many. 53:43.345 --> 53:44.787 I hope that makes it clear. 53:45.427 --> 53:48.571 I'm not saying that everybody was killed the same way. 53:49.171 --> 54:01.965 I'm saying that there is a crucial piece to the puzzle, which everyone is ignoring, that gets them to the stage where they have a pneumonia that they can say is due to a virus. 54:02.165 --> 54:04.928 They do it with supplementary oxygen or ventilation. 54:06.479 --> 54:09.201 And they did it to a lot of people with comorbidities. 54:09.702 --> 54:11.243 Yes, but also healthy. 54:11.603 --> 54:13.305 That's why they can talk like this. 54:16.727 --> 54:20.510 There's been some talk about the possibility of reinfection with COVID-19. 54:20.971 --> 54:28.397 Now, do you think that this is more an issue with testing, that the test remains positive, or are they truly being infected for a second time with the virus? 54:28.789 --> 54:45.878 You know, I don't know the answer to that 100%, but I would be willing to bet on my experience, and I'll bet your experience, that any virus that you have, if you do well, recover, and clear the virus, if it acts like any other virus, you're going to have lasting immunity. 54:46.178 --> 54:47.539 You're not going to get reinfected. 54:47.739 --> 54:54.564 Yeah, the way that I've thought about it is there's certain illnesses where you get lifelong immunity, chickenpox, measles with your two vaccinations. 54:54.944 --> 55:00.928 So maybe this won't be lifelong immunity, but to say there's none where you can get reinfected in two weeks, something seems off. 55:01.088 --> 55:03.330 No, that's inconceivable to me that that's the case. 55:03.570 --> 55:05.972 I mean, you're going to have some degree of durable immunity. 55:05.992 --> 55:06.412 You're right. 55:06.832 --> 55:10.975 It may not be 50 years, but it's certainly going to be a matter of a few years. 55:11.275 --> 55:11.456 Sure. 55:12.756 --> 55:17.498 For myself as a healthcare provider, this is something my hospital system even asked me to ask you. 55:17.918 --> 55:31.124 When is it safe for us to return to work once we've either tested positive for COVID-19 or, you know, with a lack of testing kits, had an upper respiratory viral illness where we don't know if it was COVID-19, when can we return? 55:31.184 --> 55:34.205 Is it when... Upper respiratory viral illness. 55:34.245 --> 55:36.246 You see, it's always the same bullshit. 55:36.386 --> 55:40.888 Then they are exempt from using antibiotics and they can go forward. 55:41.508 --> 55:45.053 If they need to use supplementary oxygen, they could use supplementary oxygen. 55:45.073 --> 55:47.376 They could use remdesivir to treat that virus. 55:47.416 --> 55:50.280 They could do any number of things, including send people home. 55:54.722 --> 56:10.935 I think anybody that objects to me saying supplementary oxygen is working against us because supplementary oxygen is on too many people's medical reports as the way everything started when they got into the hospital and it explains 2020. 56:10.975 --> 56:12.596 It is enough to explain 2020. 56:15.930 --> 56:32.898 It's enough to explain 2021, it's enough to explain 2022 that in addition to tweaking any knob possible, simply giving oxygen when it's not necessarily, even 80% can potentially injure somebody. 56:34.219 --> 56:43.824 And I don't think that you can discard this because doctors need to understand this or there will be another respiratory disease 56:45.367 --> 56:55.010 going through our hospitals, which will be the result of the application of otherwise ridiculous protocols again. 56:55.751 --> 56:57.871 Supplementary oxygen is not that useful. 56:59.452 --> 57:01.793 Supplementary oxygen isn't that useful. 57:02.233 --> 57:09.515 There is a plethora of a giant pile of literature about this that goes back to the mid 80s. 57:10.216 --> 57:14.177 That's the extraordinary thing about the supplementary oxygen problem. 57:16.448 --> 57:31.252 You can't discount the fact that there was a cruise ship with an oxygen plant in New York City where this bomb went off, where supposedly it was fraudulently 25,000 people died. 57:31.932 --> 57:34.433 It's a combination probably of fraud and murder. 57:35.173 --> 57:44.456 Do not resuscitate orders and all of these things, but they pushed this oxygen as a story, them running out. 57:45.302 --> 57:49.888 They pushed this oxygen story as 60 liters a minute is okay. 57:50.429 --> 57:58.520 And they had people on the internet saying it so that other doctors in the United States would not realize, not see the absurdity. 57:58.580 --> 57:59.962 I mean, everybody else is doing it. 58:00.002 --> 58:01.745 That's how they've solved it in New York. 58:05.723 --> 58:15.665 I think discounting the supplementary oxygen as explanatory for a lot of the murder or the starting point of a lot of the murder is a very, very dangerous assumption to make. 58:15.725 --> 58:21.886 Fever subsides 24 hours after fever subsides or do we do a full 14 day or 21 day quarantine? 58:22.066 --> 58:31.248 If you are a healthcare provider or someone who is in a critical infrastructure and you need to get back to work to assume that you're infected 58:31.957 --> 58:39.863 What you can do is that you can wear a mask, take your temperature daily, monitor yourself if you get symptoms, get out of circulation. 58:40.203 --> 58:43.806 If not... You are really something else there, Free Mayonnaise. 58:44.366 --> 58:48.829 I mean, I find it impressive that you work so hard to argue about this. 58:49.870 --> 59:00.778 The simple fact is, is that they had to fool doctors with the TV programs and with the social media, and supplementary oxygen was talked about by people like Pierre Kory, 59:02.571 --> 59:07.779 Kyle Seidel, Nurse Erin, all of these people. 59:08.961 --> 59:14.390 And it's the idea that you get, that you call it week AF? 59:15.757 --> 59:21.961 I think you're just revealing yourself in the same way that you reveal yourself sometimes on the soapbox. 59:22.001 --> 59:28.364 I don't understand why you're doing it, but it does not discount the fact that there are many ways to murder people. 59:29.065 --> 59:32.927 What is important to understand is that no one else talks about it. 59:33.007 --> 59:35.168 No one else mentions the opioid crisis. 59:35.248 --> 59:41.892 No one else mentions that lots of people were probably started on the road to a COVID death 59:42.864 --> 59:45.649 by just supplementary oxygen because it's dumb. 59:46.390 --> 59:53.563 Because it's easy to get young doctors that are manning an over panicked ER to do that or nurses to do that. 59:54.325 --> 59:54.806 It's easy. 59:57.042 --> 01:00:02.588 But again, you know, if you don't like how I'm presenting it, I just suggest you start your own stream or go do it yourself. 01:00:02.669 --> 01:00:04.370 I'm sure you can teach it better than me. 01:00:04.671 --> 01:00:08.715 Assume you're infected, but do it in a way where you don't infect anybody else. 01:00:08.836 --> 01:00:13.962 Otherwise, every one of our health care providers are getting exposed every day. 01:00:13.982 --> 01:00:15.243 I don't even know what... 01:00:16.917 --> 01:00:19.319 I don't even know what ambiguous hand-waving is. 01:00:19.399 --> 01:00:20.199 It's a crime. 01:00:20.219 --> 01:00:29.845 I don't know all the ways that they murdered people, but I know one of the ways that nobody's talking about and you seem to have a real problem with me talking about is supplementary oxygen. 01:00:30.625 --> 01:00:31.386 Come on, man. 01:00:32.332 --> 01:00:36.095 how to go to work, and that's- Your mayonnaise has spread over too much bread, dude. 01:00:36.615 --> 01:00:40.338 That brings me to the topic of personal protective equipment, N95 masks. 01:00:40.458 --> 01:00:44.882 As recently as last week, my hospital- It doesn't prove that the therapy works, dude. 01:00:44.942 --> 01:00:47.024 It proves that it was part of their show. 01:00:47.684 --> 01:00:49.245 Are you that bad at this? 01:00:50.727 --> 01:00:52.808 They made a huge show of it. 01:00:55.086 --> 01:00:55.446 Wow. 01:00:55.947 --> 01:00:57.368 I mean, it's pathetic, man. 01:00:57.909 --> 01:01:03.334 I'm going to try to ignore you in the chat for a little while just because I think you're lost or something. 01:01:03.354 --> 01:01:06.076 The hospital was in need of these donations. 01:01:06.336 --> 01:01:13.143 I actually went on a journey to purchase $50,000 worth of masks myself from construction workers and was able to donate them. 01:01:13.803 --> 01:01:16.326 Why do you think there's such a shortage? 01:01:16.786 --> 01:01:20.410 Obviously, there's huge demand because we need to constantly be using these masks. 01:01:20.750 --> 01:01:24.895 New York Presbyterian Hospital system, they use 40 to 70,000 masks a day. 01:01:25.095 --> 01:01:30.440 But do you also think there's an issue of hoarding here or some sort of customs issue of getting these masks shipped over? 01:01:31.121 --> 01:01:32.762 It's a combination of all of the above. 01:01:33.262 --> 01:01:39.105 So one of the things... Okay, so I think the point is made here, right, that this whole narrative is laid out. 01:01:39.165 --> 01:01:40.246 He's reading a script. 01:01:40.346 --> 01:01:41.626 He's answering the questions. 01:01:41.686 --> 01:01:41.826 It's 2020. 01:01:42.627 --> 01:01:43.207 It's March. 01:01:43.727 --> 01:01:44.288 It's funny. 01:01:44.768 --> 01:01:53.612 Nobody's worried that their lab leak, you know, connection to this disaster impending 7 billion people dead. 01:01:54.613 --> 01:01:55.874 He's not worried about that. 01:01:57.654 --> 01:02:00.596 He's not worried about that because that has nothing to do with the truth. 01:02:02.802 --> 01:02:13.567 And so the idea that we're all fired up now about Tony Fauci having covered up the lab leak and that this whole show got us fired up about that is exactly visible here. 01:02:14.868 --> 01:02:16.628 He's had two months to shit his pants. 01:02:16.809 --> 01:02:20.370 He's had two months to be terrified that his emails are going to be leaked. 01:02:23.952 --> 01:02:25.392 So if we go on, a year later, 01:02:28.638 --> 01:02:34.640 They're on again together, and they're gonna talk about it after almost all the murder's over. 01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:44.864 If anyone who's involved in science to say you should never change your mind, doesn't understand what science is. 01:02:44.984 --> 01:02:47.905 Well, Dr. Fauci, thank you so much for joining us on the YouTube chat. 01:02:48.085 --> 01:02:54.347 You have no disagreement, Mr. Freeman, as you haven't been able to say what your disagreement is. 01:02:55.523 --> 01:02:58.484 You haven't been able to articulate it on Soapbox. 01:02:58.524 --> 01:03:00.845 You've never been able to articulate it everywhere. 01:03:00.965 --> 01:03:06.686 Your main message seems to be that I don't listen to people, or that I don't listen to you. 01:03:06.706 --> 01:03:12.968 I don't even know who you are, but you have identified yourself very well today, and I do appreciate that. 01:03:14.160 --> 01:03:16.202 It's been a year since you and I have spoken. 01:03:17.022 --> 01:03:21.645 We're doing it now in person, without masks on, thanks to the vaccine. 01:03:22.025 --> 01:03:23.807 How amazing is that? 01:03:23.887 --> 01:03:38.116 Indeed, it's really one of the most important contributions in biomedical research, to so quickly and effectively get a vaccine that right now is performing in the real world even better than it did in the clinical world. 01:03:38.136 --> 01:03:42.259 Now, look at the difference between, you think he's just two years tired? 01:03:43.562 --> 01:03:45.503 Or now is he worried about something? 01:03:46.783 --> 01:03:55.446 I think he's now worried about the fact that the effectiveness illusion is going to be broken because people haven't taken it seriously. 01:03:55.486 --> 01:03:57.166 Because not enough people have taken it. 01:03:57.626 --> 01:03:59.227 Because the lockdowns didn't work. 01:03:59.267 --> 01:04:00.707 Because the stories didn't work. 01:04:00.747 --> 01:04:01.528 Because whatever. 01:04:02.828 --> 01:04:05.349 It's off the rails already. 01:04:06.909 --> 01:04:07.610 And he's worried. 01:04:08.330 --> 01:04:09.550 He doesn't like where they are. 01:04:09.730 --> 01:04:11.551 Could it be because of warp speed? 01:04:13.669 --> 01:04:22.956 that we were supposed to have two years of show, pomp and circumstance, development, trials, and we don't have that. 01:04:23.836 --> 01:04:25.137 It's not happening like that. 01:04:25.878 --> 01:04:30.341 And so this sucks because, you know, I gotta say what I'm supposed to say. 01:04:30.361 --> 01:04:32.202 I gotta stay on script. 01:04:32.282 --> 01:04:42.850 Like this vaccine is the best vaccine we've ever had because, you know, in 2007, Paul Offit already wrote a book about from cowpox to mRNA. 01:04:45.014 --> 01:04:51.059 And so I've got to stick to the script, even though, you know, unfortunately, it's going way faster than it was supposed to. 01:04:51.359 --> 01:04:54.682 And this is not going to be great for whatever. 01:04:56.163 --> 01:04:58.805 Now it's going to be even more obvious that we're using placebo. 01:04:58.825 --> 01:05:02.028 I just don't really like where this is going. 01:05:02.088 --> 01:05:05.591 That's what he looks like he's saying, which is really impressive, I think. 01:05:08.328 --> 01:05:13.230 So you feel more confident in the vaccine now than perhaps you did in December 2020? 01:05:13.951 --> 01:05:14.691 Oh, yeah. 01:05:14.831 --> 01:05:25.596 And the reason is that in December 2020, we had the results of the clinical trials, which were very impressive, you know, 94%, 95%. 01:05:26.856 --> 01:05:36.721 But often is the case is that when you get into the real world of how the vaccine performs outside of the pristine conditions of the clinical trials, 01:05:37.601 --> 01:05:40.964 It doesn't usually look as good as it looks in the clinical trials. 01:05:41.044 --> 01:05:48.389 You keep saying that disagreeing is unfortunate here, and that seems to be your message, Freeman Ace. 01:05:48.429 --> 01:06:00.279 So what's happening in the chat, if you're not paying attention to the chat, is there's somebody that has been communicating with our community for quite some time, who's slowly kind of morphed into this dude who 01:06:00.919 --> 01:06:14.247 who complains a lot and makes a lot of people angry on Soapbox and insults people because they're not very smart and belittles them from a point of anonymity. 01:06:14.327 --> 01:06:19.391 And now in the chat, he's pretending to have some objection to 01:06:20.211 --> 01:06:31.179 to how I was oversimplifying things, I guess, and that now I'm hedging my bets with the idea of repeating in the chat that Jay doesn't like disagreement. 01:06:32.537 --> 01:06:42.385 And this is really funny because, again, this is the panic that happens when they realize that the train can't be stopped anymore. 01:06:42.905 --> 01:06:48.690 That they're not going to be able to derail it by, I don't know, getting me mad or something like that. 01:06:48.750 --> 01:07:02.041 The clear message here is that this little social media performer was put in place with a script and he will continue to follow the script just like Tony Fauci will continue to follow his script 01:07:03.112 --> 01:07:09.020 even if it's off, even if the timeline isn't lining up anymore or they're not meeting their quotas. 01:07:09.878 --> 01:07:11.779 They are gonna stay on that script. 01:07:12.379 --> 01:07:21.505 They have to, because it's been laid in place for so long, it's almost hard to conceive another way of executing it. 01:07:21.585 --> 01:07:39.455 So they're gonna continue to perform on social media and perform on social media to the point where Paul Offit will also come on this guy's stream, to where in this stream, this guy's gonna talk about how the COVID-19 shots will eventually be on the childhood schedule, right? 01:07:40.802 --> 01:07:46.213 And Tony Fauci will say, yeah, that's, that's the logical place that it will go in 2021 in June. 01:07:50.481 --> 01:07:57.023 And so this is a script, but it's moving way too fast for the people it's supposed to trap. 01:07:57.763 --> 01:08:15.428 It's moving way too fast because on the other side of the aisle in 2021, there are people in June who are just now coming out on Brett Weinstein's show to say, hey, I invented RNA and I know a little bit about this stuff and ivermectin and zero COVID. 01:08:17.406 --> 01:08:20.350 the exact same month. 01:08:22.753 --> 01:08:23.874 Might even be the same week. 01:08:27.118 --> 01:08:35.909 And so this narrative was prepared so that social media could be used as a weaponized system of control. 01:08:38.083 --> 01:08:46.765 And that narrative out there has some very simple moving parts that nobody will talk about, like the PCR test, like what happens to people when they go to hospitals. 01:08:46.805 --> 01:08:51.907 That includes, but is definitely not limited to, the use of supplementary oxygen. 01:08:51.947 --> 01:08:59.949 It's also the unbelievable misuse, not using antibiotics when it's a viral syndrome. 01:09:00.609 --> 01:09:02.190 Probably that's the worst one. 01:09:03.570 --> 01:09:06.251 Because, you know, old people die of pneumonia all the time. 01:09:06.331 --> 01:09:10.753 We've seen that on the screen for three years now. 01:09:11.273 --> 01:09:15.275 They lost control of pneumonia for a couple years and that's probably antibiotics. 01:09:18.365 --> 01:09:22.448 So I'm going to let this play a little while longer, and then we're going to go to the big dunk. 01:09:22.808 --> 01:09:25.910 On the contrary, we're seeing the opposite now. 01:09:26.030 --> 01:09:28.892 We're seeing that when you get data, not only from the United States. 01:09:28.952 --> 01:09:36.056 I mean, when I say data, I'm talking about hundreds of thousands of people being followed up in prospective cohort studies. 01:09:36.556 --> 01:09:43.501 The data are at least as good, if not even better, not only against what we call the wild type 01:09:44.181 --> 01:09:52.244 virus, namely the one that's the standard one, but when variants appear, the vaccine seems to do quite well against them also. 01:09:52.324 --> 01:09:56.306 So it really is very good news with regard to vaccines. 01:09:56.546 --> 01:10:00.367 In this year, how do you feel where we are in our current battle with the pandemic? 01:10:00.707 --> 01:10:12.252 Overall, I think it's very positive, but one of the things that we get concerned about is- He's so terrified that people are gonna figure out that it's a lab leak that he's really barely able to talk, right? 01:10:15.970 --> 01:10:23.077 He's so worried that the funding stream that led to this pandemic is gonna lead back to his doorstep, isn't he? 01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:33.587 I think the only thing he's worried about is the uptake of his bullshit placebo rollout isn't going very well. 01:10:34.007 --> 01:10:37.030 And since they didn't scare them well enough to take it up, 01:10:38.618 --> 01:10:50.256 then it won't have the psychological effect that they needed it to, which is to permanently brainwash generations to come into believing that, you know, intramuscular injection's a great way to give people medicine. 01:10:50.556 --> 01:10:54.282 Transfection is a great new way to medicate people. 01:10:57.952 --> 01:11:02.135 I see a very simple show now. 01:11:02.816 --> 01:11:17.247 Because even though if you look at all of the parameters, particularly most recently over the last month or two, is that the seven-day average of daily cases continues to come down 01:11:17.947 --> 01:11:18.427 and down. 01:11:18.588 --> 01:11:24.892 One of the issues with that is if we see the numbers go down and people say, well, then why should I get vaccinated? 01:11:25.413 --> 01:11:26.934 Everything seems to be going well. 01:11:27.595 --> 01:11:28.395 That's a mistake. 01:11:28.956 --> 01:11:40.364 If you don't really get the level down very, very low, there's always the concern and the real concern, not just theoretical, that you could start getting more infections. 01:11:40.725 --> 01:11:41.946 At least in this country, 01:11:42.864 --> 01:11:50.574 We're in a very fortunate situation that we have enough vaccines to vaccinate everybody. 01:11:50.834 --> 01:11:59.485 When you look at other countries where they're literally and figuratively dying to get vaccinated because they don't have 01:12:00.186 --> 01:12:00.766 Enough facts. 01:12:00.806 --> 01:12:01.987 That is a hard sell. 01:12:02.067 --> 01:12:03.887 I mean, that is a hard sell. 01:12:03.947 --> 01:12:13.550 And I think it edifies the previous point that I made that this is a guy very different than the first guy where he thought, wow, this is the show that I've been waiting for. 01:12:13.610 --> 01:12:15.331 This is the performance of my life. 01:12:15.871 --> 01:12:21.793 We just kicked off something I'm so excited about doing that I can hardly sleep. 01:12:21.893 --> 01:12:24.713 My wife forces me to sleep four hours a day. 01:12:24.754 --> 01:12:26.054 Does that look like this guy now? 01:12:27.386 --> 01:12:36.648 Or does this guy look like a dude who's got things are way out of his control and he's just trying to mitigate the flood, the dam is breaking. 01:12:37.128 --> 01:12:40.569 And it's not a dam breaking on the gain of function narrative. 01:12:40.629 --> 01:12:49.231 It's a dam breaking on the bullshit play to get everybody to take mRNA under the pretense of a crisis that doesn't exist. 01:12:50.874 --> 01:13:03.698 an anticipated rise in all-cause mortality that is being sculpted in any way possible to create the illusion of a pandemic, including losing control of pneumonia for a couple of years. 01:13:06.458 --> 01:13:07.879 That's why he looks like this. 01:13:07.939 --> 01:13:09.899 This was not the plan. 01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:14.761 You see how the deaths go away? 01:13:14.841 --> 01:13:19.402 The deaths were supposed to go longer and then go away later. 01:13:21.854 --> 01:13:23.055 you know, when the vaccine worked. 01:13:25.496 --> 01:13:26.637 It's remarkable. 01:13:26.717 --> 01:13:28.779 I really think that that's where we are. 01:13:29.299 --> 01:13:39.286 I mean, take India has two to three percent of their population is fully vaccinated and about 11 to 12 percent have received at least one dose. 01:13:40.208 --> 01:13:41.889 I mean, that is not good. 01:13:42.089 --> 01:13:42.509 Absolutely. 01:13:43.030 --> 01:13:55.917 Unbelievable kind of narrative curation here where they're just telling stories about shortage and suffering with no evidence whatsoever, but it totally played us into the, into the hog trap. 01:13:56.477 --> 01:13:59.219 We ran face first into the cage. 01:14:01.380 --> 01:14:04.562 So where do you think this guy is in 2025? 01:14:07.284 --> 01:14:08.685 What do you think he's doing now? 01:14:08.725 --> 01:14:11.188 Do you think he's gained weight or do you think he's skinnier? 01:14:11.708 --> 01:14:16.893 Do you think he's coming around to the idea that some things were done wrong? 01:14:16.933 --> 01:14:18.434 What do you think they're using him for now? 01:14:18.514 --> 01:14:25.060 Remember, after 2021, Paul Offit was on his stream three times, two times in the last year. 01:14:25.721 --> 01:14:29.524 Also, Marty McCarty was on his stream once to say how our food is bad. 01:14:31.005 --> 01:14:58.399 So a very interesting train of people have been on his show But he does a lot of nonsense and it's a lot of bullshit and his thumbnails are professionally produced I mean this guy's got investors people have invested in his brand, you know the whole nine yards and And and they have used him I'm sure he makes a great living as a content creator quote-unquote The focus of content creation is probably what we should call these people 01:14:59.028 --> 01:15:02.131 And I don't, I'm not a focus of content creation. 01:15:02.311 --> 01:15:04.173 I am the content creator. 01:15:04.774 --> 01:15:08.538 That's why when I reach over and do something like this, that's what happens. 01:15:08.578 --> 01:15:13.402 And when I reach over and push another button, you know, and it's not set up correctly, that's what happens. 01:15:14.464 --> 01:15:16.125 And none of these people are doing that. 01:15:17.086 --> 01:15:19.409 None of the people that you follow are doing that. 01:15:20.269 --> 01:15:21.551 You know, Robert Malone, uh, 01:15:23.902 --> 01:15:26.983 Any of these people none of them Tucker Carlson. 01:15:27.063 --> 01:15:30.204 These are not these are you know, even Kim Iverson. 01:15:30.504 --> 01:15:49.449 We're not no No The real the real independent bright web is people like me people like Mark Kulak who do everything they do One man shows one woman shows if there are any let me know But that's it 01:15:50.236 --> 01:15:51.797 And that's, this guy's not one of them. 01:15:51.837 --> 01:15:54.380 This guy's part of the machine following the script. 01:15:54.420 --> 01:15:56.061 So where is he in 2025? 01:15:56.421 --> 01:15:57.882 Where is he in 2025? 01:16:01.826 --> 01:16:02.726 So I forgot. 01:16:02.767 --> 01:16:05.269 He also interviews a guy with a couple of Axe books. 01:16:05.329 --> 01:16:09.032 This would have been an interview with Paul Offit, but I didn't throw it in. 01:16:09.551 --> 01:16:12.654 He's not necessarily anti-vaccine, but he wants safe vaccines. 01:16:12.975 --> 01:16:15.658 Yeah, so I'm pointing out that I think RFK Jr. 01:16:15.858 --> 01:16:17.500 is a threat to public health. 01:16:18.281 --> 01:16:20.002 You're saying he's being hypocritical? 01:16:20.163 --> 01:16:21.084 Yeah, he's being hypocritical. 01:16:21.164 --> 01:16:21.604 Absolutely. 01:16:22.165 --> 01:16:24.127 Do you know who the number one hypocrites are? 01:16:24.147 --> 01:16:25.228 Healthcare providers. 01:16:26.369 --> 01:16:29.333 The reality is, if we don't get vaccinated with Jesus, 01:16:30.714 --> 01:16:32.395 we will face God on judgment day. 01:16:32.855 --> 01:16:36.457 I'm Dr. Mikhail Varshavsky, better known as Dr. Mike across social media. 01:16:36.657 --> 01:16:41.941 I'm a board certified family medicine physician who makes content online, improving health literacy. 01:16:42.241 --> 01:16:44.702 And today I'm surrounded by 20 vaccine skeptics. 01:16:48.144 --> 01:16:52.547 My first claim is that anti-vaccine lies cost lives. 01:17:02.627 --> 01:17:02.907 Hello. 01:17:03.128 --> 01:17:04.309 Hello, how are you? 01:17:04.729 --> 01:17:06.952 Doing fantastic, excited to talk about health. 01:17:07.312 --> 01:17:08.854 I just had a baby, seven months old. 01:17:09.715 --> 01:17:14.280 Now this is very malevolent, but I want you to see it because it's on YouTube and it's going viral. 01:17:15.976 --> 01:17:16.837 And this is Mike. 01:17:16.957 --> 01:17:22.604 I'm not showing you his belly, but his belly is really like Peter Thiel's belly in that 2019. 01:17:22.664 --> 01:17:24.927 Not like he looks now, but like he did in 2019. 01:17:25.027 --> 01:17:27.870 It's pushing out from underneath his scrubs. 01:17:28.871 --> 01:17:34.598 And so I don't want to embarrass him, but he is looking healthier and happier and more well-fed. 01:17:35.290 --> 01:17:38.833 than he did when he was wearing that blue velvet suit in 2021. 01:17:39.734 --> 01:17:52.624 And here he is sitting around what are supposed to be 20 anti-vaccine people, vaccine skeptics that are going to sit at the table and have little debates with him and he's going to explain some things. 01:17:54.272 --> 01:18:11.990 Now, it shouldn't surprise you that his explanations are weak and they're very tried, but what should surprise you is how scripted it is that they don't have real, intelligent, well-read, thoughtful people as opposition, but instead have recruited apparently the 01:18:12.771 --> 01:18:24.026 the most unrehearsed, unwell-read people that they could find with very certain opinions about things or a very willingness to ask this guy questions. 01:18:24.166 --> 01:18:28.271 A couple of them even have a crush on Dr. Mike whatever his name was. 01:18:28.872 --> 01:18:32.796 And, you know, my baby, I was like, no, I'm not getting any vaccines. 01:18:32.836 --> 01:18:34.278 The doctors came in. 01:18:34.318 --> 01:18:36.480 They made me feel like a very bad mother for not doing that. 01:18:36.880 --> 01:18:37.100 Right. 01:18:37.261 --> 01:18:38.101 I was very pressured. 01:18:38.462 --> 01:18:46.790 And then I had a family friend who had a baby at the same time, was a few months in, gave vaccines to the baby. 01:18:47.651 --> 01:18:51.415 And the baby had seizures and has had seizures since. 01:18:52.813 --> 01:18:57.756 And I've also had a friend who I went on a, um, mission trip with. 01:18:58.156 --> 01:19:01.078 And this pastor was totally healthy, two, two young girls. 01:19:01.818 --> 01:19:05.340 And this pastor literally got a heart attack out of nowhere. 01:19:05.981 --> 01:19:09.963 And the only thing was he took the vaccine and there's many cases like that. 01:19:11.044 --> 01:19:14.547 Well, first of all, congratulations on the birth of a seven month old. 01:19:14.787 --> 01:19:20.172 The fact that anyone made you feel bad in the healthcare system, I feel like is a failure on us in the healthcare system. 01:19:20.192 --> 01:19:21.373 So I'm sorry that happened to you. 01:19:22.514 --> 01:19:30.381 Um, in healthcare, it's very difficult to predict the future because there are so many unknowns and there's so many- That's what I'm talking about. 01:19:30.481 --> 01:19:35.245 Look, if you see what's under here, then he's a, he's a much bigger guy than he was a few years ago. 01:19:35.305 --> 01:19:37.547 So something's not going right for Mr. MD. 01:19:38.568 --> 01:19:38.668 Um, 01:19:39.748 --> 01:19:44.150 More importantly, what I want to point out is what he's about to tell is a lie. 01:19:45.531 --> 01:19:55.295 And it's a lie very specifically because it's a lie that I've heard Paul Offit tell in the exact same context with the exact same set of circumstances. 01:19:55.655 --> 01:19:56.755 I have a friend. 01:19:58.016 --> 01:19:58.276 Listen. 01:20:00.196 --> 01:20:01.597 any variables in health care. 01:20:01.657 --> 01:20:04.399 There are things that are a lot that are outside of our control. 01:20:04.519 --> 01:20:07.641 And we try to do the best with the limited amounts that we can control. 01:20:08.541 --> 01:20:14.345 So when we see two things happen simultaneously in health care, sometimes we think they have caused one another. 01:20:14.966 --> 01:20:24.172 But unless we see a pattern of that happening over and over again on a large scale, it's more likely that this is just a coincidence of things happening at the same time. 01:20:24.952 --> 01:20:30.059 For example, I have a friend of mine who is a physician who vaccinates children. 01:20:30.440 --> 01:20:41.555 Understand that if, like Jason says, this woman is playing a part and she becomes kind of convinced by Dr. Mike, that is effectively 01:20:42.446 --> 01:20:45.327 a social media illusion of consensus. 01:20:45.907 --> 01:21:09.174 It is an enchantment being cast on you because if you see in her face that she seems convinced that Mr. Mike is right, then even if you're not convinced by what Dr. Mike said, your brain will still be left with the feeling of contradiction in the sense of what I think is not what these two people think. 01:21:12.639 --> 01:21:16.261 Do you understand what I'm trying to teach there, what I'm trying to coach you into seeing? 01:21:17.542 --> 01:21:36.652 Is that if she belies to the viewer any signal that she's being persuaded by the words that this man is speaking, it becomes an illusion of consensus to your brain because your brain sees two people agreeing about something that you disagree with. 01:21:38.092 --> 01:21:38.633 Do you see it? 01:21:40.213 --> 01:21:41.054 I hope you can see it. 01:21:42.346 --> 01:21:43.087 very regularly. 01:21:43.507 --> 01:21:45.429 And they were about to give a child the vaccine. 01:21:45.929 --> 01:21:48.591 And before giving the vaccine, the child had a seizure. 01:21:49.132 --> 01:21:55.197 They went on and had more seizures throughout their life and ended up actually dying at a very young age because of a seizure disorder. 01:21:55.597 --> 01:21:56.618 The vaccine was never given. 01:21:57.579 --> 01:21:59.120 Had that happened two minutes later, 01:22:00.051 --> 01:22:00.892 What do you think would have? 01:22:01.372 --> 01:22:07.116 This is almost verbatim a story that Paul Offit and several other doctors tell. 01:22:07.816 --> 01:22:12.660 In fact, it wouldn't be surprised if you have a pediatrician that's told you this same story. 01:22:14.281 --> 01:22:17.163 That's how malevolent the situation is right now. 01:22:18.191 --> 01:22:36.156 If it's okay to lie to teenagers about the reasons they shouldn't use drugs, or if it's okay to lie to teenagers about why they shouldn't have sex, it's also okay to lie to parents about why they should take or not take vaccines, because the end justifies the means. 01:22:40.174 --> 01:22:53.080 And so this is a story that I know is a lie, because there's no way that Paul Offit tells the same, that all these doctors have a doctor friend who was just about to inject and somebody had a seizure. 01:22:53.241 --> 01:22:54.201 Holy man. 01:22:54.261 --> 01:23:01.385 Been in the mother's mind and in the father's mind in that situation, other than I definitely think that vaccine caused that problem. 01:23:02.365 --> 01:23:07.448 But it could have just as easily happened before, which it did, and the vaccine wasn't responsible. 01:23:08.368 --> 01:23:09.489 So it's very difficult. 01:23:09.569 --> 01:23:13.231 This chart down here is actually two charts. 01:23:13.971 --> 01:23:21.056 It is a chart from 2019 forward and then it's a chart from 2013 to 2020 or 21. 01:23:21.116 --> 01:23:24.218 So the CDC released data and then now it's very hard to go back before 2019. 01:23:24.818 --> 01:23:26.479 So this is like my own Excel file. 01:23:26.499 --> 01:23:27.019 I don't 01:23:36.605 --> 01:23:40.007 Off the top of my head, I can't explain to you how to get data before 2013. 01:23:41.008 --> 01:23:42.409 I'm sure it's out there somewhere. 01:23:42.429 --> 01:23:47.773 And if you find it, I would love to have it because I would too, would like to have this continuing back farther. 01:23:47.793 --> 01:23:49.113 I just haven't gotten around. 01:23:50.094 --> 01:23:54.097 Sometimes that's a long chase, but that's the explanation for where this is. 01:23:54.157 --> 01:23:55.358 It's actually two graphs. 01:23:55.398 --> 01:23:56.498 They're put right together. 01:23:57.419 --> 01:24:05.785 So I'm kind of almost, you know, there's a little bit of graphics happening here because they're not on the same graph right now. 01:24:12.295 --> 01:24:16.659 Um, so my point is again, and I'm just going to kind of wrap it up here. 01:24:16.679 --> 01:24:18.061 I think it's a good place to wrap it up. 01:24:18.882 --> 01:24:27.672 Um, what you saw there is, I don't know, maybe we have to go back just a little bit and see if, um, 01:24:29.363 --> 01:24:32.464 He's not necessarily anti-vaccine, but he wants safe vaccines. 01:24:32.964 --> 01:24:38.327 So make sure you see that at started, the first clip starts with something about Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:24:38.907 --> 01:24:41.788 And he responds with, I think Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:24:41.828 --> 01:24:43.409 is putting people in danger. 01:24:43.949 --> 01:24:53.393 And so what I would hope that you can understand is that Twiv is also saying that to their hundred thousand viewers and this guy's millions of viewers. 01:24:53.413 --> 01:24:59.055 There's lots of people on the left that are now saying that it's becoming really like he's killing people. 01:24:59.764 --> 01:25:03.107 He is endangering the lives of thousands of people in America. 01:25:03.127 --> 01:25:16.699 And that's a very dangerous narrative to now curate with an obviously staged event where no useful resistance or stance is going to be made. 01:25:16.739 --> 01:25:23.605 Because again, there is a fake anti-vaccine movement in America that is improperly, 01:25:26.928 --> 01:25:29.889 dishonestly represented on both sides. 01:25:30.249 --> 01:25:40.692 There is a fake anti-vaccine movement that is dishonestly representing and represented on both sides, on the right and on the left. 01:25:41.633 --> 01:25:51.336 And that has both sides trapped in thinking about this as a useful argument and these people as significant 01:25:53.018 --> 01:25:57.422 And what that does is that it gets people like Brandy Vaughn out of your sight. 01:26:00.444 --> 01:26:03.727 It gets the real biology out of your mind. 01:26:05.169 --> 01:26:13.656 And a video like this will get anyone on the left to once again reinforce the idea that that anti-vaccine movement is nuts. 01:26:14.517 --> 01:26:16.859 The idea of being anti-vaccine is nuts. 01:26:18.300 --> 01:26:20.642 And Dr. Mike makes me feel comfortable in that. 01:26:22.708 --> 01:26:24.029 That's the trap they're in. 01:26:24.929 --> 01:26:38.915 And the trap that the Trump people are in are the frustration with, oh man, if I could have been on this show, I would have been able to explain why Dr. Mike, that there's no freedom and that they haven't done randomized control trials. 01:26:43.288 --> 01:26:45.950 Yeah, so I'm pointing out that I think RFK Jr. 01:26:46.130 --> 01:26:48.793 is a threat to public health. 01:26:48.853 --> 01:26:50.274 You're saying he's being hypocritical. 01:26:50.434 --> 01:26:51.375 Yeah, he's being hypocritical. 01:26:51.435 --> 01:26:51.895 Absolutely. 01:26:52.456 --> 01:26:54.437 Do you know who the number one hypocrites are? 01:26:54.637 --> 01:26:55.518 Healthcare providers. 01:26:56.639 --> 01:27:00.663 The reality is, if we don't get vaccinated... I might have to bring it to the front. 01:27:00.683 --> 01:27:05.847 Hold on, I'm gonna, I'm gonna escape, resume the show and escape, and I might have to bring this to the front. 01:27:05.907 --> 01:27:07.188 Let me see if I do that. 01:27:09.250 --> 01:27:09.350 Um... 01:27:11.024 --> 01:27:16.409 I'll bring it to the front because then we can skip through it a little bit and you can see exactly how. 01:27:17.495 --> 01:27:18.696 how ridiculous this is. 01:27:18.716 --> 01:27:21.698 He's not necessarily anti-vaccine, but he wants safe. 01:27:22.219 --> 01:27:32.306 Isn't it possible that there's people reporting things that after we look at it and judge it off of the VAERS system, that it is in fact not shown to be causative? 01:27:32.386 --> 01:27:35.549 And so here we are talking about the VAERS network. 01:27:36.289 --> 01:27:40.372 And who is the curator of the VAERS network on the Trump side? 01:27:40.412 --> 01:27:42.094 It is, of course, Jessica Rose. 01:27:43.001 --> 01:28:10.702 the person with five post-secondary degrees, and the surfer who recently put another picture of her toes in the Spanish Ocean because she's flying around as a Brownstone Fellow, who also flew around for five years during the pandemic with people like Pierre Kory and Jill and Robert Malone. 01:28:14.929 --> 01:28:31.781 And now they are bringing up the very issue that Epigirl from the Spars pandemic document, the same issue that Jessica Rose has been curating for five years, the VAERS system, and whether or not this has any useful information in it or not. 01:28:32.702 --> 01:28:33.643 It's pretty remarkable. 01:28:34.703 --> 01:28:36.825 But in fact, the coincidence or correlation. 01:28:38.061 --> 01:28:41.464 So yes, I would say that correlation. 01:28:41.484 --> 01:28:44.847 Actually getting the disease will give you a better response. 01:28:45.487 --> 01:28:48.009 But do you know what you have to do in order to get that response? 01:28:48.029 --> 01:28:51.972 Like get the virus in you? 01:28:52.433 --> 01:28:55.815 Correct, which means you have to have all the potential risks. 01:28:56.276 --> 01:29:03.101 All the potential risks of the virus are much worse than the risks of the vaccine because 01:29:04.127 --> 01:29:05.670 The vaccine's a vaccine. 01:29:05.850 --> 01:29:06.452 It's safe. 01:29:06.672 --> 01:29:07.955 It's not transfection. 01:29:07.995 --> 01:29:12.403 This guy isn't smart enough to know what transfection is or that it could have been called that in 2020. 01:29:15.273 --> 01:29:20.456 And again, we're perpetuating this narrative, and a lot of these people aren't informed enough to understand it. 01:29:20.556 --> 01:29:21.797 They go, oh yeah, that's right. 01:29:21.837 --> 01:29:30.883 I remember social media, when I was skillfully using it in 2020, told me that I had to be really afraid of the virus, that even you wouldn't really want to get it. 01:29:30.983 --> 01:29:38.268 Like, it would be absurd to think that exposure to this thing, this new thing, we would even consider it. 01:29:39.201 --> 01:29:46.082 of having severe disease, death, and largely we've forgotten how serious these viruses and bacteria are. 01:29:46.703 --> 01:29:51.704 We have forgotten how serious these virus and bacteria are. 01:29:51.724 --> 01:29:53.764 He doesn't even know his own narrative. 01:29:53.824 --> 01:29:54.944 That's really hilarious. 01:29:55.004 --> 01:29:57.905 In 2025, he is still fumbling. 01:29:58.285 --> 01:29:59.465 In the 20s, in the 50s, in the 80s, 01:30:02.694 --> 01:30:06.016 Deadliness of those diseases has been largely forgotten. 01:30:06.916 --> 01:30:09.798 One of the vaccines we give to children is called Haemophilus influenza. 01:30:10.358 --> 01:30:11.559 That causes meningitis. 01:30:11.959 --> 01:30:13.160 We don't see that anymore. 01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:23.286 The residents that were trained 20 years before me, every time they were in the emergency room, they learned how to do a spinal tap to diagnose this type of meningitis because of that bacteria. 01:30:23.986 --> 01:30:25.127 I've never learned how to do it. 01:30:26.013 --> 01:30:27.114 I'm not trained how to do it. 01:30:27.554 --> 01:30:32.437 Now we have to rely on interventional radiologists to do the procedure because of vaccines. 01:30:32.938 --> 01:30:40.442 It's really interesting because the Hib-Titer vaccine is not a good vaccine and the Hib vaccine is, it's bad. 01:30:40.622 --> 01:30:42.984 It's really bad, probably just a placebo. 01:30:44.225 --> 01:30:45.205 It's just terrible. 01:30:45.906 --> 01:30:52.970 So the reason why I say that vaccine immunity is better than natural immunity is because you don't have to survive the actual illness. 01:30:53.351 --> 01:30:53.631 Okay. 01:30:54.051 --> 01:30:55.213 Well, that was my question. 01:30:55.353 --> 01:30:55.634 Thank you. 01:30:55.714 --> 01:30:57.296 Appreciate that. 01:30:57.316 --> 01:30:57.637 Thank you. 01:30:57.957 --> 01:31:00.221 See, so these are not anti-vaccine people. 01:31:00.281 --> 01:31:05.890 These are just skeptics that get cleared up from talking to the great Dr. Mike. 01:31:09.878 --> 01:31:11.179 Hey, Dr. Mike Eliezer. 01:31:11.339 --> 01:31:11.659 Pleasure. 01:31:11.759 --> 01:31:12.260 Nice to meet you. 01:31:12.300 --> 01:31:12.980 Nice to meet you as well. 01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:16.222 I was actually binge watching your video this week thinking it was going to be you. 01:31:16.242 --> 01:31:18.484 I didn't think it was going to be you. 01:31:18.584 --> 01:31:20.265 You are very good faith, which I respect. 01:31:21.286 --> 01:31:26.949 Can I ask you a question in terms because as a vaccine skeptic, the burden of proof is on you to show that vaccines do work. 01:31:27.290 --> 01:31:29.351 So what evidence would you have that vaccines actually work? 01:31:31.019 --> 01:31:35.364 So vaccines, unlike other drugs, and there have been claims made about this. 01:31:35.424 --> 01:31:36.706 See, I think this is false. 01:31:36.746 --> 01:31:38.848 And I think we've made progress from here. 01:31:39.849 --> 01:31:42.372 And I think Brandy had made progress from here. 01:31:42.512 --> 01:31:44.675 I don't think that's the right way to put it. 01:31:44.875 --> 01:31:46.377 I think you should put it even better. 01:31:46.957 --> 01:31:51.603 I think you should put it to this guy to explain why intramuscular injection isn't dumb. 01:31:52.779 --> 01:31:59.680 How do you justify intramuscular injection as the application of medicine to augment the immune system of an otherwise healthy person? 01:32:00.161 --> 01:32:06.062 How does that mechanistically relate to your understanding of the immune system? 01:32:06.082 --> 01:32:06.782 You're a doctor. 01:32:07.222 --> 01:32:21.485 Explain to me why intramuscular injection's a great way to augment the immune system and try to cite some of what you understand as the organization of the immune system so that I get a better picture of where that is in your mind. 01:32:22.125 --> 01:32:25.668 See, that's a biology question. 01:32:25.728 --> 01:32:27.549 That's a biology discussion. 01:32:27.589 --> 01:32:29.531 This is not a biology discussion. 01:32:29.551 --> 01:32:37.797 This is a semantics discussion or a yes or no discussion, a go or no go discussion. 01:32:38.544 --> 01:32:45.292 this in the wrong direction, where people say that vaccines aren't as tested as, let's say, pharmaceuticals. 01:32:46.334 --> 01:32:54.984 Because vaccines are given to healthy people to prevent disease, we test them an incredibly higher amount than pharmaceuticals. 01:32:55.124 --> 01:32:56.686 That's just ridiculous, of course. 01:32:57.859 --> 01:33:00.201 So that means three marks. 01:33:00.241 --> 01:33:05.684 We give them to children who are unable to report the consequences. 01:33:05.764 --> 01:33:18.452 We put it in a place where the consequences are much more likely to be temporarily unrelated in the mind of the patient, especially coupled with the fact that those patients are often under two years old. 01:33:18.932 --> 01:33:21.574 This is of course ridiculous. 01:33:23.186 --> 01:33:24.867 but understand what this is. 01:33:25.007 --> 01:33:27.689 This is five years of cat herding. 01:33:28.149 --> 01:33:44.120 This guy is part of the left, part of the accepted Fauci, Offit narrative, and he was put in place, curated, coached, and he is there right now, fully on board, and he has no idea how wrong he is. 01:33:44.360 --> 01:33:50.824 He believes everything he says because everybody around him agrees with him. 01:33:52.008 --> 01:33:55.949 The illusion of consensus extends to anyone and everyone he talks to. 01:33:57.970 --> 01:34:06.333 And so he's happy to defend it with certainty to these people who are also trapped, albeit by the other side of the trap. 01:34:06.373 --> 01:34:08.734 They're in the same trap that he's in. 01:34:11.174 --> 01:34:21.438 The Scooby-Doo narrative of a novel virus that was leaked in a mud puddle and is now all around the world. 01:34:22.625 --> 01:34:29.932 And so none of those people in that room will ever challenge him to explain why unvaccinated people are so healthy. 01:34:30.713 --> 01:34:35.638 He will never be able to explain why it is that in places where 01:34:41.403 --> 01:34:51.805 In places where it's been investigated, the simple application of vaccines leads to detrimental outcomes, up to five times worse outcomes in the children. 01:34:52.546 --> 01:34:53.406 Just one shot. 01:34:55.526 --> 01:35:03.048 And why isn't that we're not talking about the big biological idea of the difference between injecting intramuscularly versus ingesting it? 01:35:06.526 --> 01:35:11.249 That idea, remember, was from Brandy Vaughn, who was dead in December 7th, 2020. 01:35:12.750 --> 01:35:17.853 Certainly would have been a formidable opponent to the whole coronavirus narrative. 01:35:17.933 --> 01:35:32.363 She probably would have been very, very happy to tell you that it's better to get natural immunity, and natural immunity to all of these things is better, and that we get stronger when we get infected, and we make growth spurts when we get infected, which is, 01:35:33.203 --> 01:35:41.248 some of the things that she was saying that I think are kind of sketchy and probably not that much, you know, data to support these claims. 01:35:42.048 --> 01:35:46.711 And in some ways, those claims kind of undermined this main point. 01:35:46.771 --> 01:35:48.272 And I don't think that was her fault. 01:35:49.284 --> 01:36:03.528 I think that she was just so spellbound and stunned that she was the only person that was trying to get this message out, like she was trying to get it out, that she was just overwhelmed and then they got rid of her. 01:36:05.008 --> 01:36:07.269 And again, I would challenge you to compare that 01:36:08.075 --> 01:36:26.131 to the record of somebody like Brian Hooker, who in 2013 did not use the word autism, only wanted to talk about vaccine neurological damage, questioned the rationale of vaccines in general, and had 16 years of genetically modifying plants to produce medicine. 01:36:26.972 --> 01:36:42.112 And yet somehow or another in 2020, rather than being aware that this is a transfection, being misrepresented as a novel vaccine, he was more informed about the aspects of the novel virus that everybody needed to be paying attention to. 01:36:42.132 --> 01:36:44.475 He was more informed about 01:36:44.975 --> 01:37:00.384 the natural immunity idea, he was more informed about the vaccine studies being underpowered, and the worst part maybe is that he just went along with saying all of the things that he was told to say without mentioning Brandy. 01:37:02.985 --> 01:37:10.850 Even though he was in movies with her, and on stage with her, and at meetings and conferences with her for years before the start of the pandemic. 01:37:12.657 --> 01:37:17.581 People are being murdered in America at this time, and he is talking about the virus. 01:37:18.362 --> 01:37:19.883 An asymptomatic spread. 01:37:23.546 --> 01:37:36.837 And now, five years later, he's one of the health freedom leaders, right behind Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who's had also a decade to do something about vaccines, and he's gonna check the adjuvants pretty soon. 01:37:36.857 --> 01:37:41.441 I think he's gonna get around to that in this term of Donald Trump's presidency. 01:37:43.183 --> 01:37:53.525 go back to ICANN, the Informed Consent Action Network, and find out that they were actually founded on this day, April Fool's Day, in 2016. 01:37:54.105 --> 01:37:59.587 And the movie Vaxxed was also released on that date. 01:38:01.907 --> 01:38:05.948 And the movie Vaxxed had a huge cast that included Brian Hooker there, 01:38:07.004 --> 01:38:10.667 and all kinds of people that we don't know and have never heard of before. 01:38:10.707 --> 01:38:13.309 The entire Pauly Tommy family. 01:38:13.349 --> 01:38:21.935 Oh there's Brandy Vaughn right there just above Dave Wakefield and Dave Weldon, the guy that Pauly says 01:38:23.229 --> 01:38:44.935 uh is going to be the head of the CDC in 2017 in a video with Brandy and then on the bus and then actually he was nominated for that in 2020 although of course his his hearing didn't happen but that's pretty interesting Stephanie Seneff is there um interesting list of characters in Vaxxed One and then 01:38:46.167 --> 01:38:54.831 Of course, in 2019, there was Vax 2, but the production crew was actually much larger than the acting crew this time. 01:38:55.491 --> 01:39:04.955 The acting crew really only had Suzanne Humphries, Brian Hooker, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Jimmy Kimmel, Pauly Tommy, and Andrew Wakefield. 01:39:05.015 --> 01:39:10.438 So remember, the first movie had a huge cast of anti-vaxxers and a huge cast of parents 01:39:11.358 --> 01:39:16.260 and lots of stories to tell, and included Brandy Vaughn. 01:39:16.900 --> 01:39:24.862 And after Vaxxed won, of course, you know, people tell Brandy all the time about how she presents this stuff so well, and she's such a compelling presenter. 01:39:25.342 --> 01:39:28.983 But when they made Vaxxed 2, they didn't bother to put anybody in it. 01:39:29.024 --> 01:39:31.484 They just kept it to themselves and Polly's in it. 01:39:31.604 --> 01:39:33.365 And look at this production team. 01:39:34.025 --> 01:39:44.610 Isabella Tommy, co-producer, Jonathan Tommy, co-producer, Polly Tommy, executive producer, Robert F. Kennedy, executive producer. 01:39:44.670 --> 01:39:45.430 It's interesting. 01:39:45.810 --> 01:39:54.294 It's an interesting list of people that were in the first, the scientific advisors, Suzanne Humphreys and Brian Hooker. 01:39:56.115 --> 01:39:57.756 And so, you know, three years later, 01:39:59.088 --> 01:40:03.510 Um, they, they decide not to include Brandy Vaughn and they don't include anybody. 01:40:03.550 --> 01:40:05.171 It's just them, just them. 01:40:06.032 --> 01:40:20.079 Um, and so those people are also now part of the health freedom movement, opposing medical mandates, advocating for free speech and free choice and advocating for safe vaccines, just like kind of Brian Hooker's doing. 01:40:21.425 --> 01:40:25.308 It's almost like they didn't make any progress from 2016 until now. 01:40:25.388 --> 01:40:28.891 It was always been a health freedom movement. 01:40:29.371 --> 01:40:40.240 Interestingly, in that vaxxed movie too, of course, was Suzanne Humphreys, who already had a book in 2013 called Dissolving the Illusion or Illusions. 01:40:40.300 --> 01:40:43.623 And it was about smallpox and measles and sanitation and clean water. 01:40:44.404 --> 01:40:48.187 And the truth about flu vaccines is supposedly how she got there. 01:40:49.892 --> 01:40:56.278 But in 2018, we saw her talking with Brandy Vaughn saying that she gave up on MDs. 01:40:56.338 --> 01:40:59.801 She recommends parents talk to other parents with unvaccinated kids. 01:41:00.401 --> 01:41:03.984 She can say the unvaxxed are the most healthy in 2018. 01:41:04.645 --> 01:41:07.187 She can say it's more than just vaccines though. 01:41:07.207 --> 01:41:09.970 It's also antibiotics, but she can't explain why. 01:41:11.519 --> 01:41:14.884 or I guess you have to go to a Facebook Live and pay in order to find out why. 01:41:14.904 --> 01:41:17.908 And no needles when your kid is sick. 01:41:18.008 --> 01:41:21.573 Very similar to Brian Hooker's message from 2013 on. 01:41:22.814 --> 01:41:26.700 Ah, they gave a bunch of vaccines to my kid when he had an ear infection and that's what went wrong. 01:41:28.925 --> 01:41:32.448 interesting parallels in their narratives years apart. 01:41:32.868 --> 01:41:40.273 Don't forget that she was the primary actor of Vaxxed 2 and the scientific advisor for the movie as well. 01:41:40.714 --> 01:41:49.700 And then this year she got on Joe Rogan, started out with Cinnamon Has Vitamin C. She quoted Paul Offit about the chemistry of various forms of mercury. 01:41:50.201 --> 01:41:54.304 She said it was more than just vaccines, but also antibiotics, but still couldn't explain why 01:41:54.784 --> 01:42:01.249 And I think she said something about no needles when your kid is sick, but I don't even know, because I couldn't stand that whole two and a half hours of nonsense. 01:42:02.170 --> 01:42:03.030 Saying nothing. 01:42:04.751 --> 01:42:06.253 Effectively saying nothing. 01:42:07.153 --> 01:42:23.025 After, from being, having a book in 2013 until now, she's basically not progressed far enough to say intramuscular injection is dumb, or RNA pandemics are ridiculous, or this was always a transfection and Brian Hooker could have told you that in 2013. 01:42:26.127 --> 01:42:47.232 that actually she could have even told you that Paul Offit could have told you that in 2007 because he wrote a book titled Vaccinated from Cowpox to RNA the Remarkable Story of Vaccines but instead she quoted Paul Offit about the chemistry of mercury in the Joe Rogan interview I mean I can't make this up 01:42:50.612 --> 01:42:54.253 And so if you think that this ends, it's all the same story. 01:42:54.313 --> 01:43:09.159 If you look at somebody like a Columbia professor by the name of Mary Holland, who claims that her son was injured by some component of the MMR and just wants vaccines tested, she was able to say that, I'm democracy now in 2015. 01:43:09.219 --> 01:43:18.302 Then she took over as part of the World Mercury Project becoming Children's Health Defense in 2018, and then helped participate in the movie Vax 2, 01:43:19.162 --> 01:43:43.655 and helped participate in the ignoring of Brandy Vaughn and the promotion of, oh yeah, Brian Hooker, the geneticist, and Polly, Tommy, and Andrew Wakefield, the foreign meddlers, who had pulled the exact same stunt, anti-vaccine stunt, to sway voters in the UK about eight years before. 01:43:46.436 --> 01:43:47.317 I can't make this up. 01:43:48.496 --> 01:43:58.718 because of course Mary Holland is now one of the heads of the anti-vaccine movement and she will recite the narrative on stage. 01:44:00.276 --> 01:44:04.682 She will recite the narrative on stage until the job is done. 01:44:19.039 --> 01:44:23.020 military operations, but they were global military operations, right? 01:44:23.280 --> 01:44:25.921 Every country had exactly the same narrative. 01:44:26.401 --> 01:44:30.562 I was fortunate to be able to travel during COVID because I had natural immunity. 01:44:30.622 --> 01:44:33.023 Having had it for two days, I took ivermectin. 01:44:33.043 --> 01:44:33.703 I was fine. 01:44:34.323 --> 01:44:41.085 Now that, that seems like bullshit to me because I've heard her say many times that she had COVID and it was very strange. 01:44:43.148 --> 01:44:44.789 And that doesn't sound very strange. 01:44:44.869 --> 01:44:49.130 It sounds like she got it and she took ivermectin and it went away. 01:44:49.270 --> 01:44:52.291 And I don't even know how she proved that she had natural immunity. 01:44:52.751 --> 01:45:04.675 But again, as I said before, unlike Tony Fauci saying lasting immunity, unlike Dr. Mike saying lifelong immunity, these guys on this side said natural immunity. 01:45:06.872 --> 01:45:08.193 And that's not an accident. 01:45:08.393 --> 01:45:15.677 That is a semantic difference which allows that enchantment to take hold and the people that are trapped in it don't see it. 01:45:15.757 --> 01:45:25.243 They don't see that difference that those people debated natural immunity in the context of lifelong immunity or lasting immunity. 01:45:26.809 --> 01:45:28.730 You debated natural immunity. 01:45:28.971 --> 01:45:33.894 And so you're actually, we were talking about two different things and talking past each other. 01:45:34.314 --> 01:45:47.604 And so many times free speech and medical freedom are talking past mandates and biology and justifying these things because by design, they're not meant to mesh. 01:45:49.022 --> 01:45:51.463 because meshing gears gets stuff done, right? 01:45:51.523 --> 01:45:53.384 It's grinding gears that we're doing here. 01:45:53.704 --> 01:45:55.564 It's grinding gears that she's doing. 01:45:55.604 --> 01:46:07.209 If she says that she was able to travel because she had natural immunity, when Robert Malone says he took the shot to travel, even though he already had natural immunity. 01:46:10.730 --> 01:46:12.851 And those two are on the same team. 01:46:14.363 --> 01:46:21.585 part of the intellectual advisory committee that has ultimately fueled the rise of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 01:46:21.725 --> 01:46:22.405 all these years. 01:46:22.865 --> 01:46:30.648 Make no mistake about it, Mary Holland was his original general campaign manager when he declared for president. 01:46:31.488 --> 01:46:39.450 She came back to CHD two weeks after I was hired by Laura Bono and Brian Hooker. 01:46:40.830 --> 01:46:42.531 And she's the person who fired me. 01:46:43.615 --> 01:47:12.406 It's not to say that Brian Hooker is a good guy or he's done everything right, but it is to say that there is a set of people that is behaving so obviously pro-narrative, pro-Scooby-Doo, pro-Deep State performance, and her track record from 2015 to now completely edifies that interpretation. 01:47:14.358 --> 01:47:33.192 And Mary Holland could explain why somebody like Brian Hooker with such an extensive list of experiences and knowledge could be absorbed into a health freedom movement simply because he has an adult acoustic, acoustic adult vaccine damaged child. 01:47:37.835 --> 01:47:38.836 And they can leverage that. 01:47:43.157 --> 01:47:56.403 It's a very dark place we are in because this is a fake anti-vaccine movement that has helped Trump get elected, is helping herd the cats on the right side of the political spectrum in America. 01:47:56.423 --> 01:48:06.048 And these people are as bamboozled as many people on the left are on a completely different set of enchantments. 01:48:06.148 --> 01:48:11.230 And it's a very dangerous place for our young people to be surrounded by adults like this. 01:48:17.045 --> 01:48:19.206 Because that's who Mary Holland is bamboozling. 01:48:19.246 --> 01:48:20.566 She's bamboozling adults. 01:48:21.207 --> 01:48:28.950 Kids are bamboozled by social media and adults on social media and the kids that follow adults on social media. 01:48:29.010 --> 01:48:33.212 So if we want to protect our college kids, we need to out these people. 01:48:33.252 --> 01:48:43.256 If we want to protect our young parents, we need to out these people as a fake anti-vaccine movement so that the truth can actually get out there and we can actually save children. 01:48:44.036 --> 01:48:47.357 We can save our grandchildren from being part of this experiment. 01:48:47.497 --> 01:48:57.160 Or maybe we can create a world where this experiment or it can be attempted without enslaving our grandchildren, but instead enriching them. 01:49:00.341 --> 01:49:09.584 Because if it's this valuable and this important, it has this much potential, then we ought to be able to make it so that everybody, you know, by contributing to it, by participating in it, 01:49:11.129 --> 01:49:12.170 gets a decent payout. 01:49:12.870 --> 01:49:15.452 Are we talking about universal income now? 01:49:15.472 --> 01:49:17.473 Are we talking about digital current? 01:49:17.553 --> 01:49:18.434 Oh my goodness. 01:49:19.315 --> 01:49:22.477 Sounds like they're going to get their AI the data one way or another. 01:49:24.150 --> 01:49:33.855 whether the good guys do it or the bad guys do it, they're probably going to get this data because this project has too much money behind it, too much planning behind it, too many books behind it. 01:49:33.955 --> 01:49:43.661 There's racks and racks of books that were written in sequence to curate and massage this narrative into existence where we are the sum of our genes. 01:49:44.221 --> 01:49:53.486 And so, you know, never mind what we said at the beginning of the stream, where Walt Whitman says, if anything is sacred, it is the human body. 01:49:54.554 --> 01:50:02.300 we've been led to believe that human rights are sacred, that our right to freedom, our right to choose is sacred. 01:50:02.420 --> 01:50:06.003 No, ladies and gentlemen, the human body is sacred. 01:50:06.103 --> 01:50:08.185 Our human biology is sacred. 01:50:09.406 --> 01:50:19.994 And if we think our rights are sacred, if we think our right to choose is sacred, then we've already unwittingly given up 01:50:21.701 --> 01:50:28.624 on the foundation of what is sacred, that us, the individual, what you do with your life on earth. 01:50:28.904 --> 01:50:33.485 Because in a hundred years, everybody that's living on this planet is going to be dead. 01:50:34.766 --> 01:50:40.328 So it doesn't really matter all the stuff that you buy, 01:50:42.017 --> 01:50:46.258 all the causes that you stand for, all the signs that you carry. 01:50:46.298 --> 01:50:52.079 What matters is what you create, what you're ready to build, what you're ready to pass down to your children. 01:50:53.400 --> 01:51:03.222 And I want to pass down a true history that understands why the last 40 years have been the way they are, the last 50 years have been the way they are, and what was motivating these people. 01:51:04.093 --> 01:51:14.703 to try and assess what that data was that they would need and how to store it and how to feed it into a machine learning algorithm that would start to make predictions that they could validate about human biology. 01:51:15.323 --> 01:51:19.407 And they have been all in on this idea for a very long time. 01:51:19.848 --> 01:51:25.493 And even though it's failing, even though it's miserably failing, they're all in, they have to be all in. 01:51:27.054 --> 01:51:29.797 Because their assumption is, is that it's eventually going to work. 01:51:31.121 --> 01:51:36.667 That's why these people were put in place, why the whole coronavirus narrative was there. 01:51:37.188 --> 01:51:41.192 That's the part about it that Brandy didn't get and a lot of other people don't get. 01:51:41.272 --> 01:51:46.819 This is not about money, although that's an easy way to make things move and to make gears mash. 01:51:48.390 --> 01:51:51.153 It's a multi-generational plan that's got nothing to do with money. 01:51:51.213 --> 01:51:59.041 It's about what you can build, what you can create, what you can establish that will last into the generations to come. 01:51:59.442 --> 01:52:10.433 And these people working for the slavers understand that that motivation is very different than what you're going to do for the next three weeks or stockpiling food for the next 72 hours. 01:52:13.513 --> 01:52:23.980 That's why there's so much money out there that can, that establish so many different networks of pseudo dissidents, that none of these people are real. 01:52:24.060 --> 01:52:31.525 None of them are real because they are all essentially part of the same illusion that those individuals represent on social media. 01:52:31.565 --> 01:52:33.527 But this is how they move the money around. 01:52:34.527 --> 01:52:39.591 Substacks and nonprofits and fellows and world travel, 01:52:41.010 --> 01:52:42.751 It's all the same illusion. 01:52:42.791 --> 01:52:57.338 That's why none of these people will tell you that the only thing they have is synthetic recombinant genetics, using bacteria to make a lot of DNA, using enzymes to make a lot of RNA, has just gotten cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. 01:52:57.418 --> 01:52:59.099 That's all they've got, nothing else. 01:53:00.134 --> 01:53:10.763 And they use that to fake virology because they can make large quantities of pure DNA and then transfect or transform cell cultures and then claim that what's happening is virology. 01:53:12.745 --> 01:53:22.873 Claim that what they are following around is virology when really, when you put DNA on a cell culture and the cell culture divides, it's not surprising to find the DNA in the cultures dividing. 01:53:24.695 --> 01:53:27.016 And yet they can use this simple, 01:53:28.115 --> 01:53:36.502 ability to create large quantities of pure DNA to do all of the bullshit that they do and call virology and call gain of function. 01:53:36.522 --> 01:53:40.966 And it's really just transformation and transfection of animals and cell culture. 01:53:41.466 --> 01:53:45.329 And that is the simple explanation for why no virus 01:53:46.030 --> 01:53:46.650 is a trap. 01:53:47.131 --> 01:53:54.935 Why having the opinion that there was no virus with no further explanation doesn't free our children from this narrative. 01:53:54.995 --> 01:54:01.978 It doesn't equip them to argue their way out with the retarded adults that they are surrounded by. 01:54:02.478 --> 01:54:07.521 So Tom Cowan and Andy Kaufman are never going to equip young people 01:54:08.081 --> 01:54:14.310 to argue with the bamboozled adults that they are inevitably going to be surrounded by in the coming years. 01:54:14.450 --> 01:54:21.119 They will, in fact, make them unable to interact with those adults, which would be a disaster. 01:54:21.720 --> 01:54:23.922 We need to equip our young people 01:54:24.963 --> 01:54:41.313 to argue with both sides of this malevolent narrative, both sides of this trap, so that irrespective of who and what adult they come up against, they are able to succinctly describe that the only thing they have is recombinant genetics. 01:54:42.338 --> 01:54:47.700 and recombinant genetics are enough to create any PCR fraud they want to. 01:54:48.360 --> 01:54:55.964 And a background signal with fraudulent PCR tests would be all they would need to misconstrue a background as spread. 01:54:57.804 --> 01:55:09.069 And this can be explained to the left and to the right and couched in the right way for the left and the right, depending on the questions that they ask, as long as you understand the foundational principle biology here. 01:55:10.515 --> 01:55:14.577 just like explaining that overcycling isn't the thing. 01:55:15.638 --> 01:55:18.539 What you need to understand is it's really, really easy. 01:55:18.620 --> 01:55:20.601 They could have produced a large quantity. 01:55:21.021 --> 01:55:33.728 They could produce as much as is in this pen, and that would be enough DNA to put it anywhere they wanted to and find it in a people, in a cruise ship, in a wet market, and it would be enough to find it in all of those places. 01:55:35.854 --> 01:56:00.210 And it would be just as simple as Murray Gardner carrying the AIDS virus home in a Eppendorf tube and bringing it to Bob Gallo's lab as it would be for me to bring a very hot positive PCR signal to a coronavirus anywhere I wanted to go once it was made using the standard industrial processes available at any pharmaceutical company that makes a biologic. 01:56:02.930 --> 01:56:06.551 And so transfection is a crime and it was before the pandemic. 01:56:06.591 --> 01:56:14.833 It was only used on cancer patients and genetically deficient people and it failed every time and transfection remains a crime now. 01:56:15.374 --> 01:56:17.254 It is not an investigational vaccine. 01:56:17.294 --> 01:56:18.555 It hasn't proven its worth. 01:56:18.655 --> 01:56:29.958 The reason why you think or social media and mainstream media thinks and tells us that it is, is because in reality, they could have met and did meet any manufacturing quota 01:56:30.658 --> 01:56:31.539 with placebo. 01:56:32.079 --> 01:56:35.000 That's why that story that Tony Fauci was telling is so relevant. 01:56:35.020 --> 01:56:38.983 You know that other countries are short and you know they can't get the vaccine they want. 01:56:39.023 --> 01:56:41.864 They're literally dying to get a vaccine over there. 01:56:42.325 --> 01:56:50.349 His all part of driving the narrative, get your placebo, because once you take a placebo, you're bamboozled. 01:56:52.893 --> 01:57:02.429 Once you take the placebo and then you don't get sick, once you take the placebo and you don't have a reaction, now you believe that, well, vaccine didn't hurt me. 01:57:02.449 --> 01:57:04.693 I didn't get sick from it. 01:57:11.525 --> 01:57:14.426 Endemicity is another illusion that you can attack. 01:57:14.506 --> 01:57:20.609 It's another way that you can approach this question and try to understand what endemicity means. 01:57:21.269 --> 01:57:29.793 And all of the biological assumptions that are made when you use a word like that to describe what a molecule can do or has done. 01:57:32.054 --> 01:57:33.794 Ladies and gentlemen, RNA cannot pandemic. 01:57:33.834 --> 01:57:39.937 Nonspecific PCR tests on a background would have been enough, especially if they don't talk about 2020 where all the murder occurred. 01:57:40.999 --> 01:57:44.001 Ladies and gentlemen, intramuscular injection is dumb, RNA can have pandemic. 01:57:44.501 --> 01:57:46.622 And transfecting healthy people is a crime. 01:57:47.163 --> 01:57:53.546 You know, there was a population pyramid problem and they probably managed it really well and continue to manage it now. 01:57:54.587 --> 01:57:55.828 Thank you very much for joining me. 01:57:56.988 --> 01:57:58.629 Sorry for the interruption earlier. 01:57:58.649 --> 01:58:06.172 I think it's important to interact with you guys in the chat and make sure that I try to, you know, clear up anything that's there. 01:58:06.232 --> 01:58:11.995 And sometimes, you know, it's not, sometimes it's not possible to clear it up because people aren't interested in that. 01:58:12.035 --> 01:58:12.856 They're interested in, 01:58:14.096 --> 01:58:15.077 in causing trouble. 01:58:15.877 --> 01:58:32.728 In this case, it seems like Free Mayonnaise wants to make sure that anybody that's hearing him is gonna try to think about the possibility that Jay doesn't like disagreement, which I don't really know what the motivation is for that. 01:58:33.828 --> 01:58:42.894 But suffice it to say that we've got our work cut out for us, we've got a lot of stuff to do, and we've got it all planned out now after all this work. 01:58:43.504 --> 01:58:44.445 And so it's going to be fun. 01:58:44.485 --> 01:58:46.027 Tomorrow is a journal club. 01:58:46.047 --> 01:58:48.750 We're going to be talking about the microbiome of honeybees. 01:58:49.351 --> 01:58:54.016 And then on Thursday, we're going to have our first biology 101 lecture for the new year. 01:58:54.496 --> 01:58:55.337 I'm excited about that. 01:58:55.357 --> 01:59:02.084 And then Friday, 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