WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:04.800 I am a mom, and there's only one thing that I'm afraid of. 00:04.800 --> 00:07.720 And that's the people in elected office 00:07.720 --> 00:09.720 taking away my rights. 00:09.720 --> 00:12.960 I'm not afraid of the crook that's gonna come to my door 00:12.960 --> 00:15.520 because if my dogs don't get them, I will. 00:15.520 --> 00:19.520 And it's my job to defend myself. 00:19.520 --> 00:22.480 It's not your job to protect me. 00:22.480 --> 00:25.600 It's not your job to defend me. 00:25.600 --> 00:29.360 It's your job to protect the Constitution 00:29.360 --> 00:34.360 and protect my rights to defend myself. 00:34.360 --> 00:37.360 8-1-1-0 00:37.360 --> 00:39.360 Broadcast 5 00:39.360 --> 00:41.360 You're a bunker, high and top mount. 00:41.360 --> 00:45.360 It's all heading towards a fascist totalitarian state. 00:45.360 --> 00:47.360 It's radio. 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J. Cooey, I think I'm pronouncing that name correct. 03:23.360 --> 03:25.360 So am I doing that? 03:25.360 --> 03:26.360 Oh, my goodness. 03:26.360 --> 03:30.360 I didn't know I was going to be on view here that I'm going to switch this off my fault. 03:30.360 --> 03:32.360 We're going to put that off then. 03:32.360 --> 03:38.360 So tell us a little bit about yourself because you have a science background. 03:38.360 --> 03:39.360 Right. 03:39.360 --> 03:44.360 Pretty intense science background on my dad, which is really wonderful to see. 03:44.360 --> 03:47.360 And we seem to be, well, science minded. 03:47.360 --> 03:54.360 I'm a biologist myself and taught biological sciences for years and anatomy, physiology, 03:54.360 --> 03:57.360 genetics, virology, and all that stuff. 03:57.360 --> 03:59.360 Botany is one of my big favorites. 03:59.360 --> 04:01.360 New world cultivars, actually. 04:01.360 --> 04:06.360 So when people started talking about the dairy and gap and all this invasion, I cringe at 04:06.360 --> 04:09.360 what's going on with the flora and fauna down there. 04:09.360 --> 04:13.360 But anyway, tell us about yourself because I'm very happy to have you on the show. 04:14.360 --> 04:16.360 Well, I'm very happy to be here. 04:16.360 --> 04:17.360 I hope you can hear me. 04:17.360 --> 04:18.360 Okay. 04:18.360 --> 04:19.360 My feedback. 04:19.360 --> 04:20.360 Great. 04:20.360 --> 04:21.360 Okay, great. 04:21.360 --> 04:23.360 I am a lifelong biologist. 04:23.360 --> 04:27.360 I'm a guy who wanted to go to med school when I was a teenager. 04:27.360 --> 04:33.360 If you ever, I don't know if you ever did that where you suggested to friends and family, 04:33.360 --> 04:34.360 you might want to be a doctor. 04:34.360 --> 04:36.360 That's the best answer you can give once you start. 04:36.360 --> 04:37.360 There you go. 04:37.360 --> 04:41.360 So once you start giving that answer, you know, you can't change your mind and say you 04:41.360 --> 04:42.360 want to be a bartender. 04:42.360 --> 04:44.360 So I kind of went all full bore. 04:44.360 --> 04:51.360 I went med pre med and I was on a waiting list in Chicago medical schools for a few years. 04:51.360 --> 04:55.360 And while I was on the waiting list, I was a high school teacher. 04:55.360 --> 04:58.360 And I really loved teaching high school. 04:58.360 --> 05:04.360 And it kind of broke me away from this pursuit of med school because I was also a bartender. 05:04.360 --> 05:07.360 I'm going to tell you the long story really short. 05:08.360 --> 05:11.360 And as a bartender, I started to make more money than I was as a teacher. 05:11.360 --> 05:14.360 So I started just bartend for a little while and that didn't work out. 05:14.360 --> 05:17.360 I lost that job for a silly reason. 05:17.360 --> 05:23.360 And I went back into the Chicago Tribune to find a job and I got a job as a technician in a 05:23.360 --> 05:29.360 laboratory at the University of Chicago where a really kind man taught me a bunch of stuff 05:29.360 --> 05:35.360 on how to use a microscope and surgery and other things and enabled me to pick myself 05:35.360 --> 05:39.360 back up so to speak and reorganize what I wanted to do with my life. 05:39.360 --> 05:44.360 And I went and did my PhD in the Netherlands with somebody that I met while I was working 05:44.360 --> 05:46.360 at the University of Chicago. 05:46.360 --> 05:50.360 So after being in the Netherlands for about eight years, I met my wife. 05:50.360 --> 05:54.360 We moved following my career to Norway where I worked for a few years. 05:54.360 --> 05:58.360 Then I moved back to the Netherlands where I was still a neurobiologist there trying to 05:58.360 --> 06:00.360 get tenure and I didn't get enough grant money. 06:01.360 --> 06:05.360 So then in 2016, this was about 15 years into my career. 06:05.360 --> 06:12.360 My family and I moved from Holland to Pittsburgh and just in time to see Trump get elected. 06:12.360 --> 06:17.360 And so we watched and tried to figure out, you know, where my home country went. 06:17.360 --> 06:23.360 I mean, I'd been gone for about 14 years and I lived in Wisconsin and Chicago. 06:23.360 --> 06:26.360 And when I came back, it was a pretty different place. 06:27.360 --> 06:33.360 And when the pandemic started, I just, I found myself confused by it, I guess. 06:33.360 --> 06:37.360 I found it myself confused by a number of things that everybody took for granted that everybody 06:37.360 --> 06:38.360 believed. 06:38.360 --> 06:42.360 And so my decision was, I just going to learn this, I guess. 06:42.360 --> 06:44.360 I'm just going to download the papers. 06:44.360 --> 06:46.360 I mean, I'm working at a med school. 06:46.360 --> 06:50.360 I might as well just, you know, use the library and see if I can figure out what we're talking 06:50.360 --> 06:52.360 about here and within three or four weeks. 06:53.360 --> 06:59.360 I had figured out that the story of everybody on TV worrying about whether we could develop 06:59.360 --> 07:04.360 immunity to a novel virus or even the idea that there was a novel virus already seemed to go 07:04.360 --> 07:08.360 against most of the stuff that was in the textbooks before 2020. 07:08.360 --> 07:14.360 And so as I started to ask faculty members at the University of Pittsburgh and talk to faculty 07:14.360 --> 07:20.360 members about this stuff, I got a lot of pushback, mostly from people who didn't think that what 07:20.360 --> 07:25.360 I was reading could possibly be right because it wasn't my area of expertise. 07:25.360 --> 07:29.660 And so I started to do journal clubs on my bike and I put them on YouTube and I tried 07:29.660 --> 07:33.360 to encourage faculty members to watch them and they wouldn't watch them. 07:33.360 --> 07:37.640 And at some moment, I got asked not to come in anymore because the faculty had decided 07:37.640 --> 07:41.760 that I was a danger because I wasn't taking my temperature every day and I wasn't wearing 07:41.760 --> 07:43.960 a mask in my office. 07:43.960 --> 07:47.360 And so I had eight months left in my contract. 07:47.360 --> 07:48.560 They didn't actually fire me. 07:48.560 --> 07:51.560 They just made it very impossible for me to continue my career. 07:51.560 --> 07:56.560 All my papers stopped, all my work stopped, my research stopped, my supervision of students 07:56.560 --> 07:57.560 stopped, everything stopped. 07:57.560 --> 08:02.160 And so there's no way to move on in the university system and get another job if there's no one 08:02.160 --> 08:04.560 giving you a recommendation or anything like that. 08:04.560 --> 08:09.060 So I did the only thing I thought I could do, which was I just started teaching immunology 08:09.060 --> 08:13.560 online and started shaking a can on the internet hoping that I could raise enough money to keep 08:13.560 --> 08:14.560 my family alive. 08:15.560 --> 08:18.560 And it sounds pretty dramatic, but that was my only plan. 08:18.560 --> 08:23.560 I didn't know what else to do because I really felt like I had seen an alien and no one else 08:23.560 --> 08:24.560 saw it. 08:24.560 --> 08:28.560 So I had to explain it to everybody that there was something incongruent here. 08:28.560 --> 08:35.560 And so I spent about a year being supported by just people on the internet until Robert 08:35.560 --> 08:36.560 F. Kennedy Jr. 08:36.560 --> 08:40.560 called me and asked me to help him write his book, the Wuhan cover up. 08:41.560 --> 08:45.560 And so I did a lot of fact checking in that book and making sure that the citations that 08:45.560 --> 08:50.560 he was using were the correct citations and said what he was trying to say with them and 08:50.560 --> 08:55.560 had a lot of back and forth about the biology and a lot of the biology that I'm teaching 08:55.560 --> 08:58.560 now is actually in the book in the form of quotes of my own. 08:58.560 --> 09:01.560 And so that's really very happy. 09:01.560 --> 09:08.560 It was a very happy point in my life, but continuing to push forward with my understanding of this, 09:08.560 --> 09:15.560 it's become very clear to me in a long story short that we were tricked over an elaborate 09:15.560 --> 09:23.560 theater over the last four years, but especially in 2020 and 2021, we were tricked into thinking 09:23.560 --> 09:25.560 that there was a cover up happening. 09:25.560 --> 09:31.560 And we were supposed to buy into this elaborate theater of redacted emails and slack messages 09:31.560 --> 09:35.560 and arguments in front of Congress about who's telling the truth. 09:35.560 --> 09:40.560 This was all an elaborate theater to get the left and the right to think that they were 09:40.560 --> 09:43.560 involved in solving a mystery about a novel virus. 09:43.560 --> 09:49.560 And this, by solving this mystery, has gotten the entire world to accept that there was a 09:49.560 --> 09:54.560 novel virus, that there was a pandemic, had had nothing to do with stupidity and lies, 09:54.560 --> 09:57.560 and that we should teach this mythology to our children. 09:57.560 --> 10:02.560 And I'm really trying hard to help people push back against this because if we teach this 10:02.560 --> 10:06.560 to our children, it's a mythology that they'll never be able to escape from. 10:06.560 --> 10:07.560 Oh, I totally agree. 10:07.560 --> 10:12.560 You know, I was, you know, quite fascinated by the 201 project. 10:12.560 --> 10:16.560 I'm sure you're aware of that, John Hobbs University. 10:16.560 --> 10:23.560 And when that was going down, I said to myself, this was, I think, October, November, in 2019. 10:23.560 --> 10:24.560 Correct. 10:24.560 --> 10:31.560 And I was watching it and kind of tuning in every once in a while. 10:31.560 --> 10:33.560 During my spare time. 10:33.560 --> 10:36.560 And I'm sending myself, what are they setting up here? 10:36.560 --> 10:39.560 What the pieces weren't fitting, you know, that it was too soon. 10:39.560 --> 10:44.560 And then December, I got, December, 2019, I got sick with it. 10:44.560 --> 10:51.560 And now I had, just to give you my background, at age 26, I had the mumps. 10:51.560 --> 10:53.560 I got the mumps. 10:53.560 --> 10:56.560 At age 36, I got chicken pox. 10:56.560 --> 10:57.560 Adult chicken pox. 10:57.560 --> 10:58.560 Oh, wow. 10:58.560 --> 11:00.560 That's supposed to be heavy when you're an adult. 11:01.560 --> 11:09.560 That year, I was one of two people who got it in Orange County, California, back this is in the 80s. 11:09.560 --> 11:12.560 And I was one of two people who got it as an adult. 11:12.560 --> 11:14.560 And the other person died. 11:14.560 --> 11:19.560 There was a person in Prescott, Arizona, who had it, a female. 11:19.560 --> 11:20.560 She was pregnant. 11:20.560 --> 11:21.560 She died. 11:21.560 --> 11:24.560 Everybody I knew that had it died. 11:24.560 --> 11:27.560 Except me, but I struggled really violently. 11:27.560 --> 11:33.560 I struggled for, you know, for a good 30 days before recovery started. 11:33.560 --> 11:38.560 But in that whole process, so I have a real taste of what viruses feel like in my body. 11:38.560 --> 11:39.560 Right. 11:39.560 --> 11:40.560 I get that. 11:40.560 --> 11:50.560 And when I contracted this at the time, it was like the flu coming on with a cold, but it was completely different in terms of how it was progressing through my body. 11:50.560 --> 11:52.560 I just could sense it. 11:52.560 --> 11:56.560 And then, of course, the whole, all the symptoms started to settle in. 11:56.560 --> 12:00.560 I said, this is something that's not natural. 12:00.560 --> 12:02.560 It just, it just came to me. 12:02.560 --> 12:04.560 It was something that was not natural. 12:04.560 --> 12:08.560 And, of course, I started, you know, taking care of myself. 12:08.560 --> 12:14.560 I just got Ivermectin and I started taking zinc and everything like that and a quinine. 12:14.560 --> 12:17.560 And I started to recover, but it was very, very difficult. 12:18.560 --> 12:20.560 But then they came out with this whole thing. 12:20.560 --> 12:22.560 I think it was in February or March. 12:22.560 --> 12:23.560 Maybe it was March. 12:23.560 --> 12:27.560 The whole John Hopkins scenario came out and I said, wait a minute here. 12:27.560 --> 12:32.560 You know, they started out with that big map with all the blood drops on it. 12:32.560 --> 12:36.560 I said, this completely contrived thing. 12:36.560 --> 12:37.560 Completely. 12:37.560 --> 12:39.560 Can you say again, when were you sick like this? 12:39.560 --> 12:41.560 It was in 2019? 12:41.560 --> 12:43.560 Well, I started December, 2019. 12:43.560 --> 12:46.560 I was one of the early cases that nobody knew about. 12:47.560 --> 12:51.560 And then by January, I had gone through the whole cycle. 12:51.560 --> 12:57.560 And it really did not know what to do with myself because I was so sick at times, but, 12:57.560 --> 12:58.560 you know, it survived it. 12:58.560 --> 13:03.560 But then, you know, then when we saw that John Hopkins information coming out and they started 13:03.560 --> 13:09.560 exercising the exercise of the 201 project, I said to myself, completely contrived by 13:09.560 --> 13:12.560 the World Health Organization and the United Nations. 13:12.560 --> 13:16.560 And I called it a hoax from day one, I called it a hoax. 13:16.560 --> 13:20.560 And what you're talking about now is we can't perpetuate the hoax. 13:20.560 --> 13:23.560 I think that's what I'm talking about indeed. 13:23.560 --> 13:31.560 And I think we can't underestimate how much of a role policy change and sort of an illusion 13:31.560 --> 13:36.560 of consensus in the mainstream media and on social media that there was something that could 13:36.560 --> 13:42.560 be an extended global danger that caused everybody to behave in such a way. 13:42.560 --> 13:46.560 I mean, we just don't, we don't have a very good accounting of what actually happened 13:46.560 --> 13:49.560 because we haven't treated it like a crime scene yet. 13:49.560 --> 13:54.560 We're treating it like an emergency that doesn't need to be retrospectively inspected, 13:54.560 --> 13:55.560 but it really does. 13:55.560 --> 13:58.560 We need to go back and treat it like a crime scene. 13:58.560 --> 13:59.560 Nothing is normal. 13:59.560 --> 14:01.560 Nothing is normal in this process. 14:01.560 --> 14:02.560 Nothing is normal. 14:03.560 --> 14:08.560 So, you know, normal minute and I'm not a medical person or doctor or anything like that. 14:08.560 --> 14:15.560 I did teach anatomy physiology though, but in a normal process of investigation to solve 14:15.560 --> 14:20.560 the problems following the scientific method, what a concept, you know, that you get results 14:20.560 --> 14:23.560 and you do, you can study those results objectively. 14:23.560 --> 14:29.560 No one's looking for any kind of process to investigate or to follow through because 14:29.560 --> 14:30.560 it's a crime. 14:31.560 --> 14:36.560 This is criminal behavior in that criminal behavior from the World Health Organization 14:36.560 --> 14:39.560 all the way down to your many of your doctors. 14:39.560 --> 14:43.560 And we were talking to one of our guests a couple of days ago and she was talking about 14:43.560 --> 14:46.560 how the curriculums have been changed in medical schools. 14:46.560 --> 14:49.560 So much of physiology isn't even taught. 14:49.560 --> 14:50.560 Yeah. 14:50.560 --> 14:51.560 I mean, not. 14:51.560 --> 14:54.560 I can't want physiology in a medical school. 14:54.560 --> 14:59.560 I can't, I can't verify that from personal experience, but it's, it's, it would be my. 15:00.560 --> 15:01.560 It would be far. 15:01.560 --> 15:02.560 It would not surprise me. 15:02.560 --> 15:04.560 Let me say it like that. 15:04.560 --> 15:10.560 We, we, we have medical schools that teach very, very, very poor immunology. 15:10.560 --> 15:14.560 We have medical schools that basically don't teach anything about, 15:14.560 --> 15:19.560 about the function of immunology in the context of nutrition. 15:19.560 --> 15:20.560 We don't. 15:20.560 --> 15:25.560 There's a whole host of, of basic failures that, that allopathic medicine and. 15:26.560 --> 15:31.560 I mean, everyone kind of acknowledges it now, but, but it only has a result of the pandemic. 15:31.560 --> 15:32.560 It's kind of frustrating. 15:32.560 --> 15:35.560 I'm, I'm still trying to sort out. 15:35.560 --> 15:41.560 The people like you who have this story of an intense sickness where. 15:41.560 --> 15:51.560 When it occurred and how it occurred and there, and they're sort of figuring it into the, the whole pandemic because I think it's very tempting. 15:52.560 --> 15:58.560 When the media, social media, mainstream media cues up a consensus about something. 15:58.560 --> 16:01.560 It's very tempting to then. 16:01.560 --> 16:05.560 Attribute an experience to that, to that idea. 16:05.560 --> 16:11.560 And so I, my challenge to anybody who claims to have been very sick and I don't mean to. 16:11.560 --> 16:16.560 Say this in an antagonizing way, but I want you to very carefully think as hard as you can. 16:16.560 --> 16:21.560 About how much you can remember about any other time that you've been sick in your life. 16:21.560 --> 16:29.560 And, and think about how because all the other times you've been sick in your life, you've been trying to tough it out. 16:29.560 --> 16:32.560 And you didn't want, maybe you didn't even want people to know you were sick. 16:32.560 --> 16:34.560 Maybe you couldn't tell them because you had to go to work. 16:34.560 --> 16:40.560 Maybe these, these sicknesses that we have on our record are all forgotten. 16:41.560 --> 16:51.560 And people put this one last year of 19 and 20 into a special context because it is in a special context according to all the people around us. 16:51.560 --> 16:59.560 But only because we take it into that special context. I think there are so many people that say, wow, I also had it. 16:59.560 --> 17:09.560 And we have to be very careful because there are, we come from America where you use your sick days for vacation and you go to work when you're sick. 17:09.560 --> 17:20.560 For me, it's hard to take that seriously when I know as an American before 2020, I didn't remember anytime I was sick because I worked through it and I, I tried not to be sick. 17:20.560 --> 17:26.560 And suddenly in 2020 we all pivoted to, oh, we got to be very careful. And if we're sick, we better do something about it. 17:26.560 --> 17:37.560 And that's a very tricky psychological trap that can, can make you think maybe that something is more significant than it was now that all being said. 17:37.560 --> 17:42.560 It sounds like you had a pretty bad sickness that may have stood out from that. 17:42.560 --> 17:50.560 You know, I have seen what I'm trying to say to a lot of people is I have some credentials in terms of bad viral conditions. 17:50.560 --> 17:57.560 I see, you know, the, I come from that perspective and I, I recognize what was happening to my body. 17:57.560 --> 18:06.560 You know, when you go through something like adult chickenpox and you survive it, then your body remembers it. 18:06.560 --> 18:10.560 Yes. You remember it. You remember just about every element of it. 18:10.560 --> 18:18.560 So you can kind of sense when there's a virus, when there's a certain viral condition that you've got or some even bacterial conditions. 18:18.560 --> 18:28.560 In fact, recently, well, not recently, but about six years ago, I had stage five colorectal cancer and I beat it. 18:29.560 --> 18:32.560 Congratulations. Very, very, very lucky. 18:32.560 --> 18:38.560 But I did take chemotherapy and which is what was it what I was planning to do? 18:38.560 --> 18:42.560 But I didn't plan to have the surgery as abruptly as I did, by the way. 18:42.560 --> 18:46.560 But it not changed my physiology quite a bit. You know, I could sense it from that. 18:46.560 --> 18:50.560 But I go back to the training ground of having the chicken pot. 18:50.560 --> 18:55.560 I had it twice. I had it when I was a kid and I got it again. A lot of people don't recognize. 18:56.560 --> 19:01.560 You can get it again. But my point is it was something quite different. 19:01.560 --> 19:07.560 There's no question. And I did not recognize it as any kind of disease I've had before. 19:07.560 --> 19:13.560 It felt different. It felt. I just said contrived is what I thought. 19:13.560 --> 19:18.560 So to me, I thought back, well, you know, I knew a little bit about bio weapons labs. 19:18.560 --> 19:26.560 I do know doing modification. And then I started thinking, Oh, this is the they're now coming after us with, you know, bio weapons. 19:26.560 --> 19:30.560 So how does it how does this stand up with the Wuhan then? 19:30.560 --> 19:45.560 I have to tell you, I think the main thing to to the main message I'd like to give you in this short time that I have is that the bio and you're a biologist, so I want to tempt you with it very quickly. 19:45.560 --> 19:58.560 The biology that they purport to that supports the pandemic is one that can very simply be summarized as a small quantity of RNA existed in Wuhan. 19:58.560 --> 20:06.560 And now there's a much, much, much, much, much larger quantity of descendants of that same RNA molecule, like many, many more. 20:06.560 --> 20:24.560 Obviously, if we believe that all the COVID that they find in the world now with testing is COVID that all descended from Wuhan or all descended from a laboratory leak or a or a spill or a Wuhan market interaction between a pangolin and a raccoon bear, 20:24.560 --> 20:33.560 then any way that you cut that what you're suggesting is something that there is no biological evidence for this ever having occurred before. 20:34.560 --> 20:44.560 RNA molecules don't replicate like that. They don't they don't have the fidelity to do it. They don't have the the machinery to do it. 20:44.560 --> 20:53.560 Nothing about how we've previously tracked coronaviruses could ever support the idea that one is still going around. 20:53.560 --> 21:08.560 The last time this happened, 10,000 people were infected and 800 people died and that was the best we've ever tracked a coronavirus and the most times we've ever claimed to have followed a chain of infection every other time we've done it. 21:09.560 --> 21:19.560 Every other time we've tried to do it, we've gotten to about 10 people, maybe 20 people, the one in the Netherlands in 2009 called NL67. 21:19.560 --> 21:30.560 I think they got 27 kids to show all the same related sequence, but this 15 million sequences that are all related and start at a point. 21:30.560 --> 21:42.560 This is unprecedented on several orders of magnitude. And it's this biology, this biological claim that needs to be attacked because there is there is no there's no basis for this. 21:42.560 --> 21:50.560 And so they're clearly telling us a story. And one of the easiest ways this could be a story is that this background signal was already there. 21:51.560 --> 21:56.560 SARS viruses have always been in circulation and they've characterized this background very well. 21:56.560 --> 22:04.560 And then they very carefully said, okay, now we're going to start testing for it and tell all the skilled TV watchers that it's evidence of spread. 22:04.560 --> 22:10.560 And so are there dangerous viruses? I guess there could be. Could you gotten really sick from dangerous viruses? Sure. 22:11.560 --> 22:26.560 But that's not a situation that necessarily has changed from 2018 to 19 to 20 as much as our monitoring and testing for it and claiming that before we started testing, there was nothing. 22:26.560 --> 22:32.560 And this extraordinary claim also needs extraordinary evidence for which there's none. 22:32.560 --> 22:45.560 So in that scenario, then I think you have to consider the possibility that every biosecurity state, every pharmaceutical company, every major government would be better off. 22:45.560 --> 22:55.560 If the populace accepted this as a standard danger and a standard emergency that will go on forever, even if it wasn't. 22:55.560 --> 23:06.560 And it seems to me very likely that what they've done is established this mythology as a potential and confirmed it with all of this theater and now our children are going to grow up with this. 23:06.560 --> 23:14.560 And we can't allow this because it's not real. There is no RNA molecule that can do what they claim it has done. 23:14.560 --> 23:27.560 Well, that's very, you know, that's very, very interesting. And in other words, and again, what I'm interested in doing is shape shifting the narrative away from the fact that this, this is really a pandemic, as they said. 23:27.560 --> 23:34.560 And, you know, my teaching part of it, I start with, you know, endemics and pandemics. 23:34.560 --> 23:38.560 And, you know, I can say that this clearly wasn't that. 23:38.560 --> 23:45.560 But, you know, the question, though, is what about all these people who took the vaccines? 23:45.560 --> 24:00.560 Oh, and this is, of course, this is part of the reason why I'm sure we're probably on to something here because the, the principle of wanting to shift to transfection as a standard therapeutic. 24:00.560 --> 24:04.560 And it's actually the precursor to personalized medicine. 24:04.560 --> 24:19.560 This was already in the works for at least a decade before the pandemic. This was already a technology that they've been trying to roll out in various places, starting with a dental virus and curing genetic diseases and a guy like Jesse Gelsinger who died of it. 24:19.560 --> 24:36.560 All the way up until the start of the pandemic where, quite frankly, I think it's patently obvious now that the idea was to invoke a sort of worst, worst case scenario so that they could justify the emergency use of this therapeutic. 24:37.560 --> 24:48.560 And then continue to perpetuate the worst case scenario so that as many people as possible would get on board and there would essentially be an insignificant control group. 24:48.560 --> 24:56.560 And since that didn't happen, the damage of the shot is starting to become more and more apparent every day. 24:57.560 --> 25:01.560 So there's a couple of things that that strike me. 25:01.560 --> 25:09.560 And from looking at this whole process as we've gone forward and I'm glad we discussed this whole the treatment. 25:09.560 --> 25:17.560 Because we haven't totally hit it. We've got the vaccine, but we've now the treatment for those people who quote, get have the COVID. 25:17.560 --> 25:24.560 You know, because early on, and this is what we were saying this, this is not a pandemic like we're saying a pandemic is. 25:24.560 --> 25:30.560 Or has it should be because people were being, you know, when they when they pass away. 25:30.560 --> 25:36.560 There was a lot of association with people saying, well, he died of COVID. 25:36.560 --> 25:40.560 Well, we had one of my friends, very good friends. 25:40.560 --> 25:46.560 He had his grandmother pass away and she had had, you know, triple bypass surgery. 25:46.560 --> 25:49.560 She had had heart problems. She was quite elderly. 25:49.560 --> 25:55.560 And when he got the death certificate back and said, she died of COVID virus. Well, it was a heart attack. 25:55.560 --> 26:00.560 You know, and then we found out down from Contra Costa County of all places. 26:00.560 --> 26:08.560 Out here that there was somebody who died of a gunshot wound and they were listed as dying from COVID virus. 26:08.560 --> 26:10.560 And then we started getting. 26:10.560 --> 26:16.560 You get what I'm saying, I definitely do, but I think it's actually a bit more malevolent than the random ones. 26:16.560 --> 26:21.560 The stories of like the guy who died of a gunshot wound or a person in a car accident. 26:21.560 --> 26:36.560 Those stories, I think, are artificially amplified because actually it was intentional that they confounded heart attacks and strokes with COVID. 26:36.560 --> 26:44.560 And they did it especially in places like New York City where they gave EMTs orders not to resuscitate because they might spread the virus. 26:44.560 --> 26:58.560 But what that did was it effectively created more heart attack deaths because they weren't being resuscitated and then those heart attack deaths both because of finances and because they were using a COVID protocol by not resuscitating them. 26:58.560 --> 27:05.560 Therefore, they had to designate them as COVID deaths. Otherwise, they would be liable for not resuscitating them. 27:05.560 --> 27:14.560 So they actually put people into a position where they could avoid any possibility of medical malpractice if they just said this is a COVID death. 27:14.560 --> 27:18.560 And I'm using a COVID protocol, which includes do not resuscitate. 27:18.560 --> 27:29.560 Understand that they knew that when they transfected people, that's what the real name of MRNA in a lipid nanoparticles should have been from the very beginning, a transfection. 27:29.560 --> 27:37.560 And every academic biologist in every medical school in America and around the world that has used transfection in their research should have done known better. 27:37.560 --> 27:49.560 That's why I say it's criminally negligent. There's hundreds of thousands of biologists in America and around the world who could have known that this transfection was not appropriate for healthy humans, and they said nothing. 27:49.560 --> 27:54.560 And so this is something that needs they need to be a held to account for. 27:54.560 --> 28:14.560 But it is really serious because all of the people involved that were calling it an investigational vaccine were just renaming something that had a normal name that was even there are whole websites on every biopharmaceutical product supplier of transfection products. 28:15.560 --> 28:24.560 Up until 2020 included lipofectamine, which is essentially lipid nanoparticles you can make on the bench with a shaker. 28:24.560 --> 28:40.560 So we're this is absurd that they rolled it out as this this was some new suite of technologies has old stuff that we've been using in laboratories in universities for decades on animals from monkeys all the way down to mice. 28:40.560 --> 28:48.560 And every time we use it on them we sacrifice them because we know that after transfecting their brain their immune system will attack it. 28:48.560 --> 29:01.560 So it's a it's to me, that's where I lost my job that's that speaking out about this with people at a university and trying to explain that Bill Gates can't go on TV and claim that transfection is going to work. 29:02.560 --> 29:09.560 You would never use it on your kids. And their answer was always the same. Well, they must have fixed it. I mean, they're not going to use the same stuff. 29:12.560 --> 29:20.560 Listen, Jay. Oh, gosh, this has been a very, very stimulating conversation. I knew 25 minutes wasn't going to be enough. 29:21.560 --> 29:26.560 I got my biology fix for a while. Okay. 29:26.560 --> 29:32.560 You know, and I really appreciate talking to you. And so how did this the book turn out? 29:32.560 --> 29:36.560 The book's pretty good. I gotta say the book. 29:36.560 --> 29:39.560 Yeah, it's good. 29:40.560 --> 29:50.560 This is the book. It's really good because it's got a couple things in it. One of the best things that it's got in it is a crazy paper that was released in 2019. 29:50.560 --> 30:03.560 It was written by Cina Bavari and Alison Totura, who was the last postdoc before the pandemic who worked for Ralph Barrick, and they were both working at US Amrit at the time in 2019. 30:03.560 --> 30:09.560 And they just happened to write a paper that said that there is probably going to be a coronavirus pandemic in the near future. 30:09.560 --> 30:16.560 It's probably going to come out of a bat cave in China. And it's probably going to be very handy to have remdesivir on hand when this happens. 30:17.560 --> 30:29.560 How much insight someone would have to have to write a paper like that in 2019. Just weird. And that's in this book too. It's the only paper that this is the only book about the pandemic that features that paper. 30:29.560 --> 30:39.560 And so that's one of the things I'm very proud of in this book, but there's some biology in here too that's really good that that I've shared with you here too that's in that book as part of the. 30:39.560 --> 30:43.560 Talk about what people said more than a book about what people happened so you. 30:43.560 --> 30:48.560 It's a historic document. I think it's a good book to buy if you're going to buy a book about the pandemic. 30:48.560 --> 30:50.560 Well, awesome. Thank you very much. You're welcome. 30:50.560 --> 30:53.560 Thanks for being with us here. How do we get in contact with you? 30:53.560 --> 31:04.560 I have a website giga ohm biologicals G I G A O H M. It's the very high resistance value. It comes from my old biology work. 31:04.560 --> 31:13.560 And then the last word is biological, but it's all one word giga ohm biological.com and I also am on Twitch and I'm going to be on YouTube on the weekends now again. 31:13.560 --> 31:20.560 I'm teaching biology. So there's a few places to find me. I'm also on Twitter. Thank you very much though for having me on. I really appreciate it. 31:20.560 --> 31:26.560 JJ from where are you at now? I'm in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, actually. 31:27.560 --> 31:33.560 I was born in Erie, Pennsylvania. Oh, wow. That's a snowy place, man. I every time they. 31:33.560 --> 31:39.560 The last time I was there, there was a lake effect snow all over the place. 31:39.560 --> 31:47.560 Well, if you ever need to go home for a homecoming, you know, in April, there's a fully clips that's actually going to go over your Erie. 31:47.560 --> 31:52.560 Oh, right. Very, very good place to see it, actually. Yeah. Thank you very much. 31:53.560 --> 32:12.560 See you. Okay, great, great stuff here on agenda 21 radio. And again, you got the biological fix and I'm happy being able to talk about these kind of things, you know, from the day to day stuff that we always talk about more biology coming at you, you know, from brought to you by the totalitarian 32:13.560 --> 32:24.560 fact that of course, Wuhan and all the things that have gone on with it. This is an excellent interview and I really do want to thank JJ for being with us here on agenda 21 radio. 32:24.560 --> 32:31.560 We got a lot of other things coming up here in the last portion of the show. So stay with us. You're listening to a J agenda 21 radio. 32:31.560 --> 32:39.560 And remember, we are exceptional Americans. We kind of keep telling you that we are exceptional Americans. We'll be right back. 32:43.560 --> 32:47.560 Okay. Well, there it was. I guess I'm going to step out. 32:47.560 --> 32:53.560 Could you hear me? Okay. Was that all right? 32:53.560 --> 33:01.560 Mr. New York or say I couldn't hear my I don't get a good feedback when I'm using my earphones right now, but it was all good. 33:01.560 --> 33:04.560 I'm going to plug you. 33:04.560 --> 33:09.560 Or maybe I just turned it down. Oh, I had it to down to. Okay, good, good, good. 33:10.560 --> 33:19.560 All right, so I'm going to let I'm going to let this go for now. I think I'm going to be on later this afternoon, but I'm not absolutely sure. 33:19.560 --> 33:22.560 And what about the sound is. 33:22.560 --> 33:29.560 What about the noise in the background? Remember, we were talking about that yesterday. Is this okay a little better? 33:29.560 --> 33:35.560 I have the feeling I identified two sources of buzz that I got rid of. 33:35.560 --> 33:38.560 And I'm very excited about that. 33:38.560 --> 33:41.560 Anyway, thank you very much for joining me. I. 33:41.560 --> 33:48.560 It sounds a lot better. That's what I'm talking about. Yes, I'm very excited about it. You're not going to believe what it was. 33:48.560 --> 33:54.560 But I had a couple of effects pedals for my guitar were plugged into the soundboard and. 33:54.560 --> 34:01.560 I didn't have them turned off when they're they were plugged into the USB for power and that was just. 34:01.560 --> 34:09.560 That power was loud and it was feeding back in. You heard the noise yesterday and nothing now. I love it. Thank you very much for the feedback. 34:09.560 --> 34:18.560 Okay, guys, I will see you guys later and thank you very much for joining me. I'm going to play this out just because so many people seem to like it. 34:18.560 --> 34:22.560 But I might not be on again today. Just so you know. 34:22.560 --> 34:26.560 Wow, that was weird though. That dude was talking about. 34:26.560 --> 34:30.560 That dude was I'm going to get off of here before he hears me saying this. 34:30.560 --> 34:33.560 Exit. 34:33.560 --> 34:35.560 Exit Leave studio. 34:35.560 --> 34:38.560 So did you hear him? 34:38.560 --> 34:44.560 He's talking about California's secession. So just in case Homeland Security is still watching. 34:44.560 --> 34:48.560 I don't have any opinions about California's seceding from the union. 34:48.560 --> 34:52.560 And actually I think that's not the solution I would I would advocate for. 34:52.560 --> 35:02.560 So holy cow. I didn't know I was going on that show. So just be sure that you know nobody misconstrues me as thinking that California should break away. 35:02.560 --> 35:06.560 I know there are other people who think it would be great if California broke away. 35:06.560 --> 35:14.560 But I don't understand. I don't even understand that that idea. Aren't they in debt? Like it's Wow. 35:14.560 --> 35:19.560 Anyway. 35:19.560 --> 35:30.560 See you guys. 35:30.560 --> 35:34.560 California is currently insane. Now that could be bad. We could. 35:34.560 --> 35:37.560 I think we can still come together. 35:37.560 --> 35:42.560 I just don't want to be on a list. That's all. I don't want to be on a list. 35:42.560 --> 35:51.560 I think Texas should stay apart of the union. I think Pennsylvania should stay apart of the union. I think California should stay apart of the union. 35:51.560 --> 35:56.560 Yeah. You're going to call me a white nationalist because I believe in Jesus. Then that's fine. 35:56.560 --> 36:05.560 But if you're going to call me a white nationalist because I was on a radio program that wants to secede from the union. That's completely different. Don't do it. 36:05.560 --> 36:15.560 Can I be a white nationalist? I don't think I can be. Wow. Weird. Weird times, man. Weird times. Weird times. I don't get it. But we're going to keep going.