WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:13.240 No. It might not be the most beautiful sound, but there's no noise. There's no none of 00:13.240 --> 00:24.720 that static key stuff we used to get. So that's good. All right. Here comes J.J. Kui PhD. 00:24.720 --> 00:36.080 And this is my first time meeting him, so... Oh, I... You were on my show, you crazy man. 00:36.080 --> 00:46.280 No, not at all, just a pinger, too, on the email and the chat, that's all. 00:46.280 --> 00:53.440 What you talking about, Willis? You were on my show. Who, me? Yeah, you. Yeah. You were 00:53.440 --> 00:58.560 on his show. You were on my show. Are you serious? Yeah, you're a crazy old man, but that's 00:58.560 --> 01:05.960 all right. I like that. That's funny. Hey, I might be crazy, but I'm not old. Very good. 01:05.960 --> 01:15.440 No, no way. Well, I was on your show. Why was I on your show? I interviewed you. That's 01:15.440 --> 01:24.080 why you crazy person. That's right. It wasn't a very memorable interview, apparently, but that's 01:24.080 --> 01:29.280 okay. I don't take any insults. I'm a terrible interviewer. Oh, it's just, you know what it is. 01:29.280 --> 01:34.320 It's we doing, you know, sometimes we do two shows a day, you work in your ass off some of my, 01:34.320 --> 01:38.560 I'm sorry, I forgot about it. Do I need to turn on some more light? That doesn't look very good to me. 01:39.520 --> 01:44.160 See your something to see your face a little better would be would be nice. 01:46.080 --> 01:54.640 And that looks like the gig at home studio. Mm hmm. Yes. Now, what would you like me to call you 01:54.640 --> 01:59.280 Jay? Is it Jay? Is that what you like? Jay is fine with me. Yeah, if you want to get funny, 01:59.280 --> 02:05.200 you can say Dr. Jay, but I I prefer Jay. It's fine. Don't I don't take that seriously. 02:06.000 --> 02:09.920 What about professor? I don't guess you know, it doesn't work. I'm not a professor anymore. 02:10.560 --> 02:15.680 Well, what Dr. what Dr. bike rider? Dr. bike rider. That's good. There you go. 02:16.560 --> 02:21.200 All right. Well, gentlemen, it's your time. You ready? We are. Okay. I think. 02:25.200 --> 02:27.120 All right. Comes to the funky music. 02:35.200 --> 02:38.480 Dr. 03:01.760 --> 03:04.720 And hello, everybody. 03:04.720 --> 03:10.480 I'm John O'Loughlin. Welcome to McDuff lives and it's Wednesday night. It's a Wednesday night trio 03:10.480 --> 03:18.160 and tonight it's my great pleasure to introduce a new trio with J. J. Cooey PhD, Mark Koolack of 03:18.160 --> 03:24.320 Whosetonic Live and Myself and I'm really, really excited to get together with you guys. I've 03:24.320 --> 03:29.360 actually been looking forward to this for about four months now and I'll tell you what really got 03:29.360 --> 03:37.760 me going was the infectious clone hypothesis that J. J. Cooey publishes on his gigaome biological 03:37.760 --> 03:46.320 channel on Twitch and I think that the presentation that he's done is tremendous and helps me to 03:46.320 --> 03:51.600 understand things that I just couldn't understand before but it makes a lot of sense to me so I 03:51.600 --> 03:57.440 want to talk about that tonight. I also want to say to Mark Koolack that Mark Koolack has really 03:58.000 --> 04:04.480 been blowing my mind with all of his work for about four years now but in terms of 04:05.120 --> 04:12.640 the the current alleged pandemic or whatever you want to call it, the work that you did 04:13.680 --> 04:22.960 and others but exposing the Snohomish County man thing really is a way to open the discussion I 04:22.960 --> 04:27.680 think with people that are not familiar with how fishy this whole thing really is. 04:28.800 --> 04:35.440 So to start with the Snohomish County man and that really kind of broke down my resistance to 04:36.960 --> 04:45.600 opposing the authorities in this thing, now we have comes along J. Cooey with his infectious 04:45.600 --> 04:52.240 clones theory which I have tried to put together in a podcast of my own to try to you know tell 04:52.240 --> 04:57.920 my subscribers what it's like and I don't know how well I did but what I want to do tonight is to 04:57.920 --> 05:06.240 try to verify my work and try to push forward in in illuminating this to everybody else. 05:07.440 --> 05:15.920 So infectious clones I I googled it I don't know if either of you ever googled infectious clones 05:15.920 --> 05:25.600 but what came up was some virology studies about plants about tobacco and stuff that where they 05:25.600 --> 05:33.120 say oh yeah we we have to have infectious clones we use them to study these viruses because 05:34.000 --> 05:42.560 these viruses are ephemeral these viruses are mRNA viruses and that is JJ and Mark have been 05:42.560 --> 05:53.040 pounding in this for years now is now clearly not a perfect copy and so JJ's work in exposing 05:53.040 --> 05:59.520 that the the metaphor that he uses of a original being copied onto a CD and then the CD gets 05:59.520 --> 06:05.360 copied onto a bunch of cassette tapes and if you've ever had that experience you know that by the 06:05.360 --> 06:10.880 time it's on a cassette tape it's it's degraded great deal and that hope and that's the metaphor 06:10.880 --> 06:16.800 that I like to think of in terms of wow they can make something maybe infectious 06:17.760 --> 06:24.400 but it's not going to be infectious forever it's going to it's that lifestyle that lifetime is 06:24.400 --> 06:29.920 going to be limited by the fact that it's RNA and not DNA which DNA would last a lot longer. 06:30.800 --> 06:39.920 So this is where I am kind of jumping off from those two big illuminations for me 06:39.920 --> 06:46.160 the Snohomish County man the story and and so much flaky stuff between then and now where they 06:46.160 --> 06:51.280 you know I mean if they really wanted to to do some contract contact tracing from Snohomish 06:51.280 --> 06:57.440 County man they should have started by getting his address his phone number and his date of birth 06:57.440 --> 07:04.080 but they didn't even do that. Well guys let me turn it over to you and ask you if I've made a fair 07:04.080 --> 07:09.840 summary of what we've been what I've been talking about so far and and and maybe start with Mark 07:09.840 --> 07:18.960 since Mark you've been the Snohomish County man for me. Absolutely I think that's a it's a good start 07:19.680 --> 07:30.160 and it's a so to summarize or a one review is that you're willing to your you are in the act 07:30.240 --> 07:37.440 in the process of revisiting the the official narrative explanation of what happened 07:38.160 --> 07:46.880 and possibly even questioning some of the or the primary alternative narrative which has been 07:46.880 --> 07:54.720 packaged up for us and maybe you're considering the possibility that it could be maybe somewhere in 07:54.720 --> 08:00.640 the middle that they're trying to come up with an explanation actually satisfies all of the data 08:01.680 --> 08:09.600 that you are or the evidence that is before you and before everyone else and this is a an 08:09.600 --> 08:17.440 important time because people in your situation right now are encouraged to ask I think sometimes 08:17.440 --> 08:24.320 the wrong questions which lead people right back into it's going to be one thing or another thing 08:25.600 --> 08:33.600 I'll review Snohomish County man in a second but you know one of them for example would be 08:34.800 --> 08:43.440 I mean I'll let Jay handle the the the erroneous approach of do viruses exist but another one is 08:44.560 --> 08:53.360 was there any pandemic and that's a tricky question to answer because I think when someone says no 08:55.360 --> 09:02.240 which I agree with but you have to then say that doesn't mean if there's no pandemic that doesn't 09:02.240 --> 09:08.880 mean there was there was no excess death there's a big difference there and it can be it can very 09:08.880 --> 09:14.080 easily sound like if someone were to say well I don't think the conditions of a pandemic of 09:14.080 --> 09:18.800 iris which was spreading endlessly from person to person around the globe was really happening 09:19.760 --> 09:27.120 you immediately get put into a box of I guess you assume that no one died right and of course that's 09:27.120 --> 09:33.120 not what the person who goes there would be saying so we've been encouraged to ask I think 09:33.120 --> 09:39.120 sometimes the wrong question first and which just leads us back into camp A or camp B and 09:39.120 --> 09:46.560 avoids the the critical thinking in the middle which really help us sort things out that's exactly 09:46.560 --> 09:55.920 where I think I think that Jay's work comes in because then you have the I think his name was 09:55.920 --> 10:03.840 Giordano the kind of military Syop guy that's telling everybody well here's here's how you can 10:03.840 --> 10:09.440 freak out the entire world you know you can make them all think that there's a there's a pandemic 10:09.440 --> 10:15.120 that suddenly appeared you know that everybody's going to be sick you know and there's going to be 10:15.200 --> 10:20.960 bodies on the streets and here's how we do it and he's this guy named Giordano who Jay has 10:20.960 --> 10:27.520 reported on and so I think that is that's the way I would dispel that stuff mark would be to say 10:27.520 --> 10:34.320 well look I mean listen to what Jay has to say let's let's turn to that Jay let's go ahead 10:34.320 --> 10:41.520 and and and and kind of introduce or or tell me how did I do in trying to explain the basics of 10:41.600 --> 10:46.000 your hypothesis well I'm actually really impressed that Google was so confessional 10:46.800 --> 10:54.960 and forthright with with the truth and I find it very nice that you you use the word ephemeral 10:55.600 --> 11:02.160 because I think for the most part virology in the 70s and 80s was really the study of 11:02.160 --> 11:08.240 something very ephemeral and they all understood that and it was uh it was often a joke you know 11:08.320 --> 11:14.640 everybody uh joking about studying virology was joking about studying things that you can't study 11:14.640 --> 11:23.440 and so it's uh I think it's a very very exciting time if you if you if you want my honest opinion 11:23.440 --> 11:32.560 because it's the truth in this particular scenario is so some authors use the word acidic to describe 11:32.560 --> 11:40.320 a truth that kind of dissolves all the other stuff that's around it and this truth that RNA 11:40.320 --> 11:47.040 has a sort of limited fidelity and a limited lifespan and a sort of limited utility as for 11:47.040 --> 11:54.960 transmitting information um and these limitations and how they play into the viral dynamics of things 11:54.960 --> 12:02.080 before the pandemic versus after um we have been given this incredibly simplified cartoon 12:02.080 --> 12:08.320 of how a virus works where you know variants can sweep the planet and the planet changes color 12:08.320 --> 12:16.960 and then it changes color again as delta takes over whatever and this kind of of behavior has 12:16.960 --> 12:21.600 never been observed before this kind of fidelity has never been observed before this kind of coverage 12:21.680 --> 12:28.320 by a a single RNA molecules never been it's never been documented before and yet we're just supposed 12:28.320 --> 12:34.400 to believe this because everybody is very united in how they insist that it's true and I think 12:34.400 --> 12:40.720 that's the trick is that as long as people just hold that line there's going to be a good portion 12:40.720 --> 12:46.000 of people that aren't going to be able to penetrate that consensus um with regard to so 12:46.000 --> 12:52.560 how much county man I think mark and I story really tied so nicely together because 12:53.120 --> 12:59.040 the biology of coronavirus as you describe for tobacco mosaic viruses is very similar it's an 12:59.040 --> 13:04.720 ephemeral thing usually what they can do is they can find a sequence in the wild but beyond that 13:05.600 --> 13:09.600 maybe they can culture it for a little while enough to get enough material which permits the 13:09.600 --> 13:15.760 sequencing but at some point in time they need to go back to this DNA template generate enough 13:15.760 --> 13:21.680 of that DNA to convert to RNA and then they can repeat the experiment over and over with the same 13:22.400 --> 13:28.400 you know baseline RNA starting point but if you're starting from the wild you're always starting 13:28.400 --> 13:38.320 from something new and so that's why for example if you look at the the coronavirus literature before 13:38.320 --> 13:45.600 the pandemic you will find that the mass majority of the way the methodology that they found coronavirus 13:45.600 --> 13:52.800 was to look for a single gene the RNA dependent RNA polymerase and if they found that gene then in 13:52.800 --> 13:58.080 that same sample they would use a bunch of random primers to try and amplify everything that was 13:58.080 --> 14:04.640 in there and then try to match it up with other known coronavirus genes but it was already assumed 14:04.640 --> 14:11.120 that there was a coronavirus in there if they found this extremely conserved RNA dependent RNA 14:11.120 --> 14:18.400 polymerase and so the way that we found coronaviruses and the way that we identified them before the 14:18.400 --> 14:25.520 pandemic was so different and so less specific and so much more broad stroke meaning let's just find 14:25.520 --> 14:33.840 it never mind trying to say which one it is and this level of or sorry this lack of fidelity is 14:33.840 --> 14:39.120 just evident for all of the years before the pandemic and then suddenly there's this switch 14:39.840 --> 14:47.360 to an insistence that not only can we detect them with high fidelity but any company can put 14:47.360 --> 14:54.320 together a product which can replicate this extremely exquisite detection method which 14:55.520 --> 15:01.040 one of the frustrations I have to confess is that that's what they bold us over with right because 15:01.840 --> 15:07.680 with the Sohomish County man and I think this is where Mark and I really connected the Sohomish 15:07.680 --> 15:11.200 County man and I want Mark to come back in here in a minute because I'm going to miss a lot of 15:11.200 --> 15:22.480 these details the Sohomish County man checks every virology box he was a guy who wasn't that sick 15:23.200 --> 15:29.680 didn't really need to go to the hospital when he came to the hospital he wasn't dying they took 15:29.680 --> 15:35.920 a sample of him and lo and behold it grew in a dish which is really rare for coronavirus and 15:35.920 --> 15:43.280 especially rare if the person isn't vomiting by viral load right obviously he wasn't sick so 15:43.920 --> 15:52.800 did he have much we don't know but enough for them to grow and sequence and it happened in a place 15:52.800 --> 16:00.800 where a guy was already ready with some kind of nanoparticle and was already ready with this 16:00.800 --> 16:06.400 computer program to take the sequence that came out of this random guy that they just let 16:06.400 --> 16:14.160 leave the hospital and and this sequence was turned into a vaccine candidate in like a week 16:15.280 --> 16:22.160 and so this all occurs just kind of lucky we got a three-dimensional reconstruction of the spike 16:22.160 --> 16:28.160 protein which showed a novel fear and cleavage site and a guy who was ready to make a vaccine 16:28.160 --> 16:33.600 and a patient that just happened to have the perfectly culturable virus that matched the 16:33.600 --> 16:39.760 lulon sequence i might have missed something but i mean is that not a wonderful confluence of details 16:40.560 --> 16:46.480 well let me just let me just get one clarification and i never have understood the word primer could 16:46.480 --> 16:55.120 you tell us please what that is sure um if you uh do i have this um if you i'm going to do it really 16:55.120 --> 17:05.280 quick if you um if you sequence uh a RNA sequence think of it like a sentence um so think of the 17:05.280 --> 17:13.120 sentence like the quick brown the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog um and if you take that 17:13.120 --> 17:19.840 sentence then the primers would be the in the beginning of the thing and it would be uh g o d 17:20.400 --> 17:27.120 at the end dog and so those two primers would stick to the beginning of the sentence in the end of 17:27.120 --> 17:33.040 the sentence and allow an enzyme to copy the sentence from the end to the beginning or from the beginning 17:33.040 --> 17:40.160 to the end and so the primers are the two short RNA sequences that you're using to probe your sample 17:40.720 --> 17:46.160 and you hope that they'll bind to RNA and the sample and create a double-stranded RNA that 17:46.160 --> 17:51.120 can be copied and that's kind of a simplification actually there's going to be some molecular 17:51.120 --> 17:55.920 biologists they're going to say he doesn't know what he's talking about so let me let me back that 17:55.920 --> 18:03.440 up a minute the RNA in any sample is first converted to DNA and that conversion is done with reverse 18:03.440 --> 18:11.200 transcriptase so then you have DNA fragments which are it are complementary to the RNA that was in 18:11.200 --> 18:19.120 your original sample then you use primers to find those DNA copies of the RNA in the original sample 18:19.120 --> 18:25.680 and those DNA fragments are amplified by your primers and your primers need to be specific for 18:25.680 --> 18:32.320 that DNA but essentially what you're doing is you're designing primers which will be the beginning 18:32.320 --> 18:39.280 or end words of the coronavirus gene that you're looking to find and that's how you're you're trying 18:39.280 --> 18:45.040 to find these different molecular signals regardless of what you're using PCR to find 18:45.040 --> 18:52.160 the primers are the two the two sequences that you're using to probe all of the DNA that's in your sample 18:53.200 --> 18:58.480 while that was a long explanation that was a terrible answer i'm sorry but you know i i thought 18:58.480 --> 19:04.240 i i'd force you to do it because i've heard that word so many times and you're the man so i took 19:04.320 --> 19:10.880 advantage no no no problem all right do you want it to get back to mark yeah so the so how much 19:10.880 --> 19:19.120 county man i mean how many other things were tied up in that guy well there's never been a photo of 19:19.120 --> 19:27.040 him other than somebody in one of the the bubble cards um his name has never been released all we 19:27.040 --> 19:35.040 know he was a 35 year old male that was returning from Wuhan and he returned on i think it was 19:35.040 --> 19:45.440 that was the dates uh it was it was January 15th it was January 15th i think um and uh and 19:46.240 --> 19:50.880 yeah he returned on January the 15th the United States like just before there was some i think 19:50.880 --> 19:55.440 they started talking about some travel restrictions or something like that and 19:56.320 --> 20:03.600 uh he has no family in the United States no relatives no roommates we don't know where he 20:03.600 --> 20:12.480 works um uh he went to the hospital uh three days after he came back uh started to say he 20:12.480 --> 20:19.040 experienced symptoms uh of course there was a regional person that had some good cdc connection 20:19.040 --> 20:23.760 instead immediately identified oh no this might be related to that weird thing that's happening 20:23.840 --> 20:30.720 in china so he was checked into the hospital i think on the 18th there's a crazy story of as uh 20:30.720 --> 20:37.040 of a sample uh that was taken from him for the virus right uh which somehow wound up getting to 20:38.000 --> 20:47.520 uh either Bethesda or Atlanta for uh analysis uh by eight a.m. the following morning even though 20:47.520 --> 20:52.880 there were no direct flights um there's no way that a package could have gotten from that area to 20:52.880 --> 20:59.360 Atlanta not to mention if he had the most contagious virus that the world has ever seen 21:00.000 --> 21:06.000 how did he fly from Wuhan to Seattle not get anyone sick there's no direct flights from Wuhan to 21:06.000 --> 21:10.320 Seattle which means he took at least one of the connecting flight and not one other person got 21:10.320 --> 21:16.240 sick and his whole time at the hospital no one got sick from him and then he just disappeared 21:16.240 --> 21:21.280 into the wilderness the snowmish county man i just remembered maybe it was the remdesivir they 21:21.360 --> 21:27.840 used on him well he just happened to have absolutely textbook textbook symptoms textbook description 21:27.840 --> 21:36.000 of what coronavirus was everything started to get worse exactly the perfect time uh and he was the 21:36.000 --> 21:44.160 first person that was approved to have compassionate use of uh remdesivir uh multiple names for 21:44.240 --> 21:50.080 involved in that i know cena bovari was one though and then he had an absolutely perfect 100 21:50.080 --> 21:57.520 recovery after taking remdesivir 100 perfect recovery um and that speaks a lot for the power 21:57.520 --> 22:05.200 of remdesivir yeah well uh this is this is this is serious job because i mean they should get they 22:05.200 --> 22:11.440 should get this guy and make an ad with him the serious part is the fact that they had one anecdotal 22:11.440 --> 22:19.840 data point right now one point was enough to start trials and that the trials if the trials 22:19.840 --> 22:25.840 weren't going well they would actually stop trials and say well these trials maybe this one over here 22:25.840 --> 22:31.120 isn't going so well but you know it worked with the the phantom snowmish county man 22:32.640 --> 22:38.720 and then and then just one thing led to the next uh and then a computer spat out remdesivir 22:38.720 --> 22:45.600 somehow with the defense reduction agency and lo and behold it became the only thing that had 22:45.600 --> 22:53.440 any evidence of uh of providing therapeutic value so uh i think that there is because we're in 22:53.440 --> 23:03.360 rumble we could speak a bit more freely i think it's a possibility that this guy either was a myth 23:03.440 --> 23:09.520 or and this is a far this is a far-flung conspiracy all right 23:12.080 --> 23:21.200 there was a 35 year old scientist in china doctor wane lee wane laying i i forget the fellow's name 23:21.760 --> 23:28.240 who was credited as being uh one of the greatest heroes since gondi because he blew the whistle on 23:28.560 --> 23:34.720 the risk of uh of coronavirus in china right and i guess he was arrested and imprisoned 23:35.760 --> 23:43.280 this 35 year old chinese guy that eventually died in the hospital was never seen after the time 23:43.280 --> 23:50.560 that the 35 year old snowmish county man appeared i suspect that they took this doctor who would 23:50.560 --> 23:57.600 have known how to describe a textbook case of coronavirus flew him to seattle and then he was 23:57.680 --> 24:05.280 in the bubble wrap and then when he was done alone he's off with a new identity i i i would bet 24:05.840 --> 24:08.160 i would bet a lot of money on that or he's dead 24:10.560 --> 24:16.800 and uh there was uh there was some legislators uh some congressmen or women i uh who in the 24:16.800 --> 24:22.080 united states who actually wanted to rename a street after that chinese scientist they held 24:22.080 --> 24:30.000 them in such high regard wow so so the snow homage county man's story is it is it's an exceptional 24:30.000 --> 24:38.240 story it's because it provided anecdotal evidence of medicine which wound up i think having lethal 24:38.240 --> 24:44.480 results for probably tens of thousands if not over a hundred thousand people just within the 24:44.480 --> 24:51.520 united states it sounds funny you can i i laugh when i tell it but it the consequences of this 24:51.520 --> 24:58.080 stuff has been incredibly serious not to mention if we are to believe that some of the 24:58.080 --> 25:04.800 additional therapy you know let's just say transfections or countermeasures being used 25:04.800 --> 25:11.600 are only being used because of the perceived risk of covid yeah that would also mean that 25:11.600 --> 25:17.520 all of those injuries and deaths are also ultimately the responsibility of whoever 25:17.520 --> 25:23.760 overhyped the risk of this thing so i'm always cautious about answering the question of was 25:23.760 --> 25:29.360 there a pandemic like well the best of my knowledge there really were a lot of excess deaths what was 25:29.360 --> 25:34.720 it because an RNA virus just spun around the world and then and then what add to add one thing to 25:34.720 --> 25:42.000 what jay said about this whole concept of virus mutation and i always joke about this one too 25:42.640 --> 25:49.360 you hear uh these phrases of the oh uh the on the cron now is the big thing or delta is going wild 25:49.360 --> 25:57.520 right and consider the fact that we're told that viruses always mutate they're mutating all the 25:57.520 --> 26:02.640 time every second they're mutating they're always going in different directions and they're always 26:02.640 --> 26:11.600 selecting based upon virulence and and lethality etc yet somehow at the snap of a finger 26:12.240 --> 26:18.480 all the viruses mutate to one specific thing overnight sort of like everyone waking up with red 26:18.480 --> 26:24.800 hair in the morning even though they didn't even have another generation these narratives john 26:24.800 --> 26:33.600 are so absurd and and hilarious uh it's i'm it is actually quite offensive that you don't i don't 26:33.600 --> 26:40.640 see more people even in the supposed truth community calling this stuff out but i uh i think uh i think 26:40.640 --> 26:45.280 jay should pick it up from here well that's what we're trying to do and we're trying to give some 26:45.280 --> 26:50.800 some uh you know i'm trying to do an hour show here which people can latch on to and say oh i get 26:50.800 --> 26:58.160 it now you know and so i want to get back to jay and a couple of points uh i don't want to 26:58.160 --> 27:08.000 to omit his point your point jay about the uh test i guess the pcr test is what we're talking 27:08.080 --> 27:17.280 about uh not being specific to any particular coronavirus and are you with me can you hear me 27:17.280 --> 27:22.080 i am here sorry i'm just focusing another camera because i'm anticipating you're gonna want me to 27:22.080 --> 27:28.880 draw it's okay go ahead okay well yeah maybe maybe that would help but where i'm going with this is 27:28.880 --> 27:37.440 is about the uh mark was talking about Snohomish county man on on january 16th 17th uh uh things 27:37.440 --> 27:45.200 happening then but that very weakened a doctor in germany named christian drosston 27:48.240 --> 27:57.680 announced that he had created a modification of the standard pcr test that would specifically find 27:57.680 --> 28:11.840 the uh covid 19 sars covid to coronavirus and based upon his recommendation suddenly everybody in 28:11.840 --> 28:18.640 the world was using the pcr test which is not supposed to be a test as i understand it but they 28:18.640 --> 28:25.760 were using that same um make that that way to determine whether somebody had or did not have 28:25.760 --> 28:34.080 this coronavirus that the snohomish county man had had and you know when jay first explained that 28:34.080 --> 28:42.000 no this this they couldn't tell one coronavirus from another i was like wow this is this is completely 28:42.000 --> 28:47.600 contradicting what this christian drosston said that he was able to magically come up with this 28:47.600 --> 28:54.880 modified pcr test over the weekend and it became the worldwide standard by which everybody is judged 28:54.960 --> 29:00.640 and of course from there we all if you remember and i think you guys remember a lot of people 29:00.640 --> 29:05.840 will remember that we started getting into the controversy of how many uh revolutions or how 29:05.840 --> 29:12.160 many times did they spin it through the pcr and if it's more than you know 25 or so then it's not 29:12.160 --> 29:18.480 really significant but they were spending it 35 times just to pump up the numbers and i mean 29:18.480 --> 29:24.080 that to me is also a big part of what jay can do is to is to expose that so 29:25.760 --> 29:31.120 have i got that about right jay yeah so i'm just was trying to see if i could pull something up 29:31.120 --> 29:39.680 that would help us talk about this so first of all um whoops um oh that's the wrong screen i want 29:39.760 --> 29:48.560 this one um this is the pcr test for the who um i'm not sure let me look at the bottom here if this 29:48.560 --> 29:54.240 is i think this is how they started but i'm not sure if this is where they are now where they 29:54.240 --> 30:01.840 started january 11th 20 no no this is 2020 so this is what they started with so if you take a look 30:01.840 --> 30:10.880 at this list here they are they are doing the rdrp or rdrp gene here which is the RNA dependent 30:10.880 --> 30:17.840 RNA polymerase and they have two primers here and then they have an RNA dependent RNA polymerase gene 30:17.840 --> 30:25.760 another um another pcr product of 100 base pairs with two primers and then they have the e-gene 30:26.320 --> 30:32.720 so what's interesting about this is that the e-gene of coronaviruses is shared across a lot of 30:32.720 --> 30:41.280 SARS viruses and in fact drastic um when it was still kind of an organization um covered a 30:42.560 --> 30:49.120 a blogger by the name of um and the blog is still up as far as i know it's called nerd has power 30:49.760 --> 30:55.200 and if you go to that blog you just google nerd has power you can find this blog where he describes 30:56.000 --> 31:05.840 the fact that the the RATG 13 sequence which was the closest known sequence to SARS-CoV-2 in the 31:05.840 --> 31:15.840 WIV catalog was made up and the reason why this person thought that RATG 13 was a made up virus 31:15.840 --> 31:24.080 and that therefore SARS-CoV-2 might be a made up virus was because all the viruses in a paper 31:24.080 --> 31:34.400 from 2000 I'm gonna get the year wrong but it was 2012 and RATG 13 sequence 31:36.720 --> 31:45.200 and SARS-CoV-2 all had the same roughly the same e-protein and actually the RATG 13 sequence 31:45.200 --> 31:52.240 and two other viruses published by WIV had the exact same e-protein now what they 31:53.120 --> 31:59.440 and other people that I think are reporting this incorrectly have said is that this is a sign that 31:59.440 --> 32:08.960 this is um this is a fake virus but what I think this is is more um an example of what I was talking 32:08.960 --> 32:16.480 about earlier which is when you find an ephemeral signal that has missing pieces one of the many 32:16.480 --> 32:24.000 missing pieces can be the e-protein gene and they know the coronavirus is require an e-protein for 32:24.000 --> 32:28.640 the assembly of the of the actual it's part of the kind of capsid thing it doesn't really have a 32:28.640 --> 32:36.640 capsid but it's part of the of the shell of the virus so if you imagine a scenario where in those 32:36.640 --> 32:41.520 earlier papers they found coronaviruses but they were incomplete genomes but then they said okay 32:41.520 --> 32:45.840 well we'll throw in this e-gene in both of them and then we'll grow them up as clones so we can 32:45.840 --> 32:53.120 study them and then they made up another one RATG 13 and they threw in an e-gene there 32:53.920 --> 33:01.840 and so what you're seeing evidence here of number not here directly but what you're you get the idea 33:01.840 --> 33:11.120 of what's going on here is that the e-gene is a very small protein reasonably conserved but not 33:11.200 --> 33:16.960 in a way that would be expected to be identical across coronaviruses so it's an interesting target 33:17.680 --> 33:21.600 because it shouldn't be specific and more importantly should change a little bit 33:21.600 --> 33:28.000 but the RNA dependent RNA polymerase gene is a highly conserved I mean highly conserved 33:28.560 --> 33:36.320 and it's a big multi multi subunit protein and what that means is if they choose the most 33:36.320 --> 33:46.400 conserved part of that protein like for example the wheels of a car and you use the wheels of a 33:46.400 --> 33:52.640 car like steel belted radials as being the indicator of a car being present and then you said well 33:52.640 --> 34:00.000 this is a highly specific test for a Mercedes 320 convertible and what does it test for well 34:00.080 --> 34:05.520 test for steel belted tires you'd be like well that's not very specific every car has got those 34:06.160 --> 34:12.320 and with the RNA dependent RNA polymerase gene it's very hard to be specific with that 34:12.960 --> 34:18.320 with that gene because that gene is present in every coronavirus and it is highly conserved 34:18.320 --> 34:25.040 because it is the gene that purports to do the copying so you can't make errors with that 34:25.040 --> 34:30.960 you can't make mistakes on that gene if you make mistakes copying that portion of the genome 34:31.520 --> 34:36.960 that copy of the genome is worthless so the idea that they're looking for this 34:38.080 --> 34:43.040 I used too much time again but the idea that they use this as the primary probe 34:43.840 --> 34:49.920 indicates that this is more like a pan coronavirus test than it is a test that would be specific 34:49.920 --> 34:58.000 for SARS-CoV-2 simply because SARS-CoV-2 is defined mostly by its structural protein 34:58.000 --> 35:02.880 and its spike protein so if you're not testing for that you would never know how you're 35:02.880 --> 35:06.880 differentiating from any of the other coronaviruses that were expected to be in the background 35:07.760 --> 35:13.200 and you weren't required to get all three you required to get two of three so there's no 35:13.200 --> 35:21.440 specificity here at all now compare that I just happen to have this here to what they did in 35:21.440 --> 35:30.800 2019 or 20 for us 23 for us now they're doing the end protein so if we move this one over here 35:32.400 --> 35:38.320 they're doing two primer sets here for the end protein and so now the specificity of 35:39.200 --> 35:44.800 tests that look for the RNA dependent RNA polymerase are very different than the specificity 35:44.800 --> 35:49.520 that looking for the end protein I don't know how they're better or worse but they have to be 35:49.520 --> 35:55.520 different because each of the proteins in the coronavirus genome is conserved to a different 35:55.520 --> 36:01.600 degree in other words if you were trying to detect the presence of a car one of the things 36:01.600 --> 36:06.400 that's highly conserved is they all have rubber tires one thing that's less highly conserved is 36:06.400 --> 36:11.760 that they all have leather seats one thing that's even less highly conserved is that they have 36:11.760 --> 36:21.440 leather dashes or or led lights or or gold gold uh plated things inside of it would be even more 36:21.440 --> 36:29.280 rare and so the question is with all of these coronaviruses tests are they really specific for 36:29.280 --> 36:35.440 a specific coronavirus and the answer before 2020 is that's impossible but the answer after 36:35.440 --> 36:42.960 2020 is of course they're extremely specific for just this one and there's no I just don't think 36:42.960 --> 36:48.800 that there's any evidence that they ever were extremely specific and maybe I'll just do this one 36:48.800 --> 36:54.800 thing mark and then I'll shut up because I know I'm taking a lot of time here but you were asking 36:54.800 --> 37:02.480 before about primers and there's something that about primers that a lot of um academic biologists 37:02.480 --> 37:08.000 assume but I want to clear up for all the academic biologists up there that this didn't happen 37:08.000 --> 37:14.640 okay so if you're looking for a sequence and that's the sequence and you design primers and those 37:14.640 --> 37:21.680 are the primers and then this would be filled in by the PCR or this would be filled in by the PCR 37:21.680 --> 37:28.720 and you would copy and amplify and you would find what you were looking for academic biologists 37:28.720 --> 37:37.840 don't do it like this if this was the sentence the quick brown I'm writing too fast 37:44.000 --> 37:49.520 there's my sentence the the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog you would use primers of the 37:50.240 --> 37:57.200 and dog to find the the sentence and that would be a reasonably reasonably 37:58.240 --> 38:05.840 specific set of primers but it would pick up every sentence in every book that started or had the 38:05.840 --> 38:12.400 somewhere in it and had dog after that and so that's a lot of sentences that aren't the quick brown 38:12.400 --> 38:18.160 fox jumps over the lazy dog and a book that you might read it might amplify more than this sentence 38:18.800 --> 38:25.840 so what is typically done in academic biology is that you do two rounds of PCR and so you have 38:25.840 --> 38:34.000 primers and then you have nested primers so nested primers in this reaction would be QUI 38:35.280 --> 38:44.320 and ONG so essentially you would run the first PCR reaction with the and dog and you would amplify 38:44.320 --> 38:50.640 all the sentences that have the and dog in it in that order some separated by more words or 38:50.640 --> 38:58.400 less words and then you would run a second PCR with the primer ONG for this part of the sentence 38:59.120 --> 39:06.800 and quick QUI for this part of the sentence and so now of the of the all of the little sentences 39:06.800 --> 39:12.160 that you amplified with the and dog you're now selecting only the sentences that have 39:12.800 --> 39:20.000 QUI at the beginning and ONG at the end in that order and now you've really made 39:20.000 --> 39:29.360 your two-step PCR test extremely specific but in Canada and in America and in most places in 39:29.360 --> 39:36.240 the world they weren't using nested primers but anytime anybody does PCR in a university 39:36.240 --> 39:40.880 because they're writing a nature paper and they're going to get tenure they're always using nested 39:40.880 --> 39:48.800 PCR so they all assume that these COVID tests must be nested they would not use nested primers 39:48.800 --> 39:54.240 and there's no specificity at all and that's exactly what they did they did not use nested 39:54.240 --> 40:01.600 primers and in Canada they didn't use that for the entire pandemic so just two primers that's it 40:01.600 --> 40:06.880 and so any sentence that has this word in the beginning or this word near the end will be amplified 40:07.360 --> 40:13.120 regardless of its length and so that's the problem I don't know if that was a very good 40:13.120 --> 40:23.600 illustration but I hope it was a good explanation am I still on talk to me goose you're in the 40:23.600 --> 40:29.200 show and I don't hear anybody else what happened well I came down so we could see a graphic okay 40:29.200 --> 40:34.000 sorry I thought you guys went away yeah we're on work still here and mark still here but just 40:34.000 --> 40:41.200 building on what Jay said is if you were to start testing for something in your environment 40:41.200 --> 40:46.960 or told to test for something in your environment that you never tested before 40:47.600 --> 40:53.680 four before and if you believed or were told to believe that you're testing for something which 40:53.680 --> 41:01.280 never existed before right even though it may have you could be led to believe that something new 41:02.080 --> 41:09.520 has just emerged and is now spreading that's the simplest way of saying it so what's important 41:09.520 --> 41:16.480 here is a whole lot of these things these detection tests were used and they really did 41:17.280 --> 41:23.760 glow all kinds of colors or not and there really was a lot of data collected and that data just 41:23.840 --> 41:31.040 can't be said that it didn't happen it did but doesn't mean what they want you and I 41:31.840 --> 41:36.880 to think it means right and if they were just taking something which would have tested positive 41:36.880 --> 41:43.200 maybe ten years ago anyways but didn't tell you but you didn't have the test till now and they said 41:43.200 --> 41:51.120 this is new it looks like something new and novel is spreading like wildfire and they took advantage 41:51.120 --> 41:57.600 of our faith that there could never have been something a trick like this pulled on us at the 41:57.600 --> 42:06.560 scale I fell for it a lot of us did and the consequences were real they were but then I just 42:06.560 --> 42:12.320 don't believe the official narrative at all of of what was spreading and hopefully that simplifies 42:12.320 --> 42:18.800 what Jay said in a more more technically elaborate and accurate way what I want to do is just 42:18.800 --> 42:26.080 summarize it and say that what what we have summarized here tonight so far is evidence of a 42:26.080 --> 42:34.640 very very clear conspiracy this this is a conspiracy there's no other way that they could have gotten 42:34.640 --> 42:40.800 those reports all around the world you know within so many hours I mean have you seen anybody 42:40.800 --> 42:47.600 seen those list of the times you know of the day when the first case was reported you know in 42:47.600 --> 42:53.200 first case in San Francisco first case in Melbourne first case in South Africa first you know and 42:53.200 --> 43:02.640 it's like they're an hour apart and and this is this is Jay Jay's theory or hypothesis is that 43:02.640 --> 43:15.360 that is evidence of a conspiracy to create a pandemic a fear of a pandemic but the fact is that they 43:15.360 --> 43:24.800 were limited by the ephemeral nature of the infectious clones they were using but they did 43:24.800 --> 43:30.640 have infectious clones and people did get sick and so that's you know we've got positive yeah 43:30.640 --> 43:41.040 people did get sick and and now we have well I guess the next step in in exposing or the 43:41.120 --> 43:47.360 exposition of what what what we're trying to do tonight would be to talk to Mark about Remdesivir 43:48.160 --> 43:57.280 because in order for us to be you know first of all they had Snohomish County man as the example 43:57.280 --> 44:07.600 of hey take Remdesivir you'll be fine in three days but then the deception that there is this 44:07.600 --> 44:16.240 pandemic everywhere coupled with oh we've got to use Remdesivir Mark why did they do that 44:19.120 --> 44:26.000 well why did they are why did did they say they did it they say they did it because there's this 44:26.560 --> 44:35.520 deadly novel virus spreading like wildfire and which because it's novel after all we've never 44:35.520 --> 44:39.280 used these tests before we're testing for something that we've never tested before 44:39.280 --> 44:48.960 tested for before it's novel so because it's so novel and unique you and I cannot possibly 44:48.960 --> 44:55.520 understand how to defend ourselves our bodies would never understand this thing because it's so 44:55.520 --> 45:03.760 unique therefore the only logical way to save lives would be to have a a powerful and new 45:04.640 --> 45:14.640 therapeutic to help people recover and that there was some evidence limited evidence 45:14.640 --> 45:23.920 that Remdesivir had some therapeutic value now the bar was set extremely low arguably to the point 45:23.920 --> 45:32.560 where it didn't have any however it the very fact that they did test it and at least it was some 45:32.560 --> 45:41.360 warp data to suggest that it had ffk just bent or benefits they were able to push it 45:44.960 --> 45:48.720 the the thing with Remdesivir I mean Remdesivir it's a very complicated compound 45:49.920 --> 45:52.400 it's been described so I think it takes a long time to manufacture 45:53.920 --> 46:01.680 there's a possibility probably a strong possibility that it does have a beneficial activity 46:02.640 --> 46:08.000 for people who have been possibly exposed at that moment to something like an infectious 46:08.000 --> 46:14.560 clone like the day of and I mean these things were developed for warfighters for people in the 46:14.560 --> 46:20.000 battlefield that are being potentially hit with synthetic biological agents so that their bodies 46:20.000 --> 46:26.080 perhaps can you know it's still bad but it's it's as opposed to having to deal with the full 46:26.080 --> 46:31.200 load of a synthetic biological agent Remdesivir might give you a chance to survive it 46:32.160 --> 46:38.800 now Remdesivir was not designed for someone who's been sick for a week and a half to get better 46:39.600 --> 46:47.680 in fact in the cases where Remdesivir was for many people prescribed and used as part of these 46:47.680 --> 46:55.760 hospital protocols it had detrimental effects and caused the body to be further straight further 46:55.840 --> 47:03.760 stressed and in many cases led to a situation where the patients felt weaker some of them 47:03.760 --> 47:10.320 allowed themselves to be intubated additional medicine was given and oftentimes the results 47:10.880 --> 47:19.600 were lethal now the question is is was the this belief that we can't look at any of these other 47:20.320 --> 47:27.440 this whole world of medicine a lot of it's not good but even you can't look at any of it 47:27.440 --> 47:33.760 aside from Remdesivir and then ivermectin and one other thing maybe you can't look at any of it 47:33.760 --> 47:38.560 just have to look at these these two or three things this is the whole toolbox right now 47:38.560 --> 47:45.360 everything else can't even consider antibiotics because this is a novel virus they said so 47:46.240 --> 47:55.840 um this means that there were potentially many people that succumbed to that lost their life 47:55.840 --> 48:03.120 because they were treated based upon a health protocol that was designed specifically for people 48:03.120 --> 48:10.960 who have tested positive for a novel virus whereas if you go to the hospital traditionally if you 48:11.040 --> 48:18.800 have a fever or if you have a broken arm or something they they treat the symptoms right um uh they 48:18.800 --> 48:25.680 don't they don't test you know to see exactly specifically how the proteins are designed on the 48:25.680 --> 48:30.400 thing that's making you sick if you got a fever you know there's certain ways to treat it you know 48:30.400 --> 48:38.720 if you have pain or whatever and it's not super super super specific to the pathogen that was 48:38.720 --> 48:43.520 people were encouraged to abandon that thinking with coronavirus and now think that 48:44.160 --> 48:50.160 based upon the very specific description of the invading pathogen you need to have a very very 48:50.160 --> 48:57.600 specific course of action taken taken to that and those are we just refer to them simply as 48:57.600 --> 49:04.640 protocols but they're really the the hospital protocol specific to people who were tested positive 49:04.640 --> 49:10.960 or who are identified symptomatically to have the novel SARS-CoV-2 virus and the COVID-19 49:10.960 --> 49:18.800 disease associated with it so again um how many of the additional excess deaths which really did 49:18.800 --> 49:25.680 happen uh could have been avoided if we simply treated people based upon their symptoms 49:26.640 --> 49:32.480 here's another thing john look at it this way how many people have you heard of we're just walking 49:32.480 --> 49:37.680 down the street who are mowing their lawn and just suddenly croaked and died of COVID 49:40.160 --> 49:47.360 um i would say zero zero yeah you know i'm like stroke heart attack i'm not trying to be funny 49:47.360 --> 49:52.320 about it no but i'm looking for that if you want to have a pandemic i'm looking for some bodies 49:52.320 --> 49:58.240 that down out in the street yeah that to me there's there's no one who was at the cafeteria based 49:58.240 --> 50:06.720 down in the soup yeah everyone was dying in a hospital this is very different than other 50:07.520 --> 50:15.200 diseases or or sudden health you know tragedies which is a big clue if many of these excess 50:15.200 --> 50:21.920 deaths were in hospitals well and if they didn't happen outside of the hospital right i think 50:21.920 --> 50:27.040 it's legitimately it's legitimate the question just how much of this pandemic was driven by 50:27.280 --> 50:33.360 protocols by erroneous interpretation of tests by medicines which were approved that shouldn't 50:33.360 --> 50:39.840 have been based upon bad data used when they shouldn't have been taking away a doctor's ability to 50:41.360 --> 50:45.520 you know exercise their own discretion and this is all even before 50:47.840 --> 50:54.400 you know people you know suicide rates were up because of isolation um drug overdoses were up 50:55.360 --> 51:04.800 the and now you have the impacts of of the the newer generation of jabby jabs associated with this 51:05.920 --> 51:13.600 so um revisiting the past a little bit what led to the escalation of fear who participated in that 51:14.160 --> 51:18.560 and how are the tools used misrepresented misinterpreted 51:19.360 --> 51:28.560 um is is important i believe anyways uh for uh for hopefully not having this happen again 51:29.200 --> 51:37.360 um i suspect that uh there's a possibility something like what just happened could happen again i 51:37.360 --> 51:45.360 think because of the contributions of j and um you know a small army of other people i think the 51:45.360 --> 51:56.880 odds of that are going lower every day um i'm proud to say but uh it's anyways that i i yield 51:56.880 --> 52:05.040 for the moment it's important to um round that off with uh with a mention that in the uk how they 52:05.040 --> 52:10.800 did it was with medazalam um there were lots of old people in the uk that were given medazalam 52:10.800 --> 52:17.440 way over the normal dose and basically killed with it um remdesivir played that role here a 52:17.440 --> 52:24.480 lot of people have in my mind seemed to fail to draw the the parallel between azt and remdesivir 52:24.480 --> 52:31.280 but i do think that there's something there um in the sense of trying to force a chemotherapy drug 52:31.280 --> 52:35.680 onto people with AIDS and it probably made most of them much sicker than they would have been if 52:35.760 --> 52:40.960 they hadn't been put on a chemotherapy drug and all of those symptoms were blamed on AIDS 52:41.920 --> 52:45.920 and that's not any different than when they gave remdesivir to people in the hospital and they had 52:45.920 --> 52:50.160 kidney failure and liquid filling up in their lungs and they blamed that on covid when they 52:50.160 --> 52:56.080 knew that that was a side effect of being on remdesivir for longer than five days so the other 52:56.080 --> 53:02.480 thing that i'd like to mention is that we've been mark and i have been kind of playing tennis with 53:02.560 --> 53:09.040 old um videos from people that we've streamed with or listened to or think are are important 53:09.040 --> 53:14.800 we've been going back to see what they were saying as early as we can and one of the surprising 53:14.800 --> 53:20.640 things that we found Robert Malone saying in 2021 was that dexamethasone is something that 53:20.640 --> 53:26.720 you can give to covid patients and really rev it up um and so you have to kind of add that to a list 53:27.440 --> 53:34.480 of substances that was being used and so is it something that could exacerbate things and was 53:34.480 --> 53:39.520 it part of the protocol and helping to exacerbate things um all of these things need to be 53:40.720 --> 53:47.280 need to be added together in an equation much more like one would solve a crime rather than 53:47.280 --> 53:53.760 trying to you know i use this analogy the other day when you call 911 you don't have to already 53:53.840 --> 53:58.720 know what the motivation of the person who's breaking into your house is and whether or not he's 53:59.440 --> 54:03.680 he's motivated by money or whether he's a drug dealer or whatever you don't need to know all 54:03.680 --> 54:07.600 that all you need to know is somebody's breaking your house and if we're saying that a bunch of 54:07.600 --> 54:14.480 people are lying about this virus in order to usurp our rights and change the way that they 54:14.480 --> 54:19.440 they govern us forever and i don't know if we need to know all the details of how they done it and 54:19.440 --> 54:22.880 in fact they could have done it differently in different places and they would be smart to have 54:22.880 --> 54:31.840 done it that way. I think you know what i've been trying to do tonight is to give a 54:31.840 --> 54:40.800 a background for people that are fairly new to this that can see fairly easily through a lot of the 54:41.360 --> 54:48.160 BS that we've been fed and to start with Snohomish County man to to look at the infectious clones 54:48.160 --> 54:56.160 and to recognize what what Jay's been emphasizing tonight about how these RNA viruses are by nature 54:56.160 --> 55:01.680 if emerald that they they can't travel around the world in exactly the same form they can't even 55:01.680 --> 55:07.520 cross the room in exactly the same form and that's the way it is that's biology. 55:07.680 --> 55:20.560 Now we have a tremendous collateral damage from either the disease or the the jabbie jabs as Mark 55:20.560 --> 55:27.360 calls them and i think it's more has to do with the jabbie jabs and we we notice the cancer statistics 55:27.360 --> 55:34.160 are going very very bad they're looking really bad especially with young people. You guys know 55:34.160 --> 55:42.480 i have cancer and what happened to me i never took any of the jabs i never took any uh i 55:42.480 --> 55:48.640 i my wife never took any of the jabs we lived to just the two of us so neither one of us had 55:48.640 --> 55:56.960 anything like the covid that some of our neighbors had but she visited some neighbors and some 55:56.960 --> 56:04.720 relatives in california in february and came back uh and uh said oh they all had uh covid and 56:05.840 --> 56:11.760 she started feeling like she had a two and then she she did she got sick and then i got sick 56:11.760 --> 56:17.360 with the very same thing and uh it was more than a flu it was this was not you know this was not 56:17.440 --> 56:26.800 your average you know uh 20 years ago flu uh it did have that lingering time you know three 56:26.800 --> 56:32.480 four weeks where you just don't feel like you can do anything um but the other reasons that i think 56:32.480 --> 56:41.920 it really probably was generated either from the original covid or whatever variant it's at by now 56:41.920 --> 56:48.000 but i think more likely that it's somebody that that she was traveling with that had got it 56:48.000 --> 56:55.360 not not necessarily from the original uh infectious clone but and and the way that i would put it is 56:55.360 --> 57:02.480 is is it possible that in the jabs they've got stuff that gives you the same thing that snow 57:02.480 --> 57:09.600 hamish county man came down with you know back in 2019 that it that it gives you that that illness 57:09.680 --> 57:13.520 as a kind of in other words is there an infectious clone in the jab 57:15.600 --> 57:26.000 oh well i mean if you want that that's uh i mean the jab is is RNA the the jab is the RNA in the 57:26.000 --> 57:32.560 best case scenario it's supposed to code for a viral protein so it is it is one of 31 proteins 57:32.560 --> 57:38.480 it's not as bad as an infectious clone of the RNA would be in theory but on the other hand 57:38.560 --> 57:45.440 you're not injecting that infectious clone you would inhale it in theory um again i want to emphasize 57:45.440 --> 57:50.880 that the infectious clone for people who are just following mark and i for the first time and just 57:50.880 --> 57:56.800 meeting me for the first time the infectious clone is a methodology by which something which is very 57:56.800 --> 58:05.120 intractable in nature and in the laboratory can be converted to a pure and quantity that can be 58:05.200 --> 58:11.760 studied and shared with people um it's it's often the way we do it with biology in the laboratory 58:11.760 --> 58:17.280 another great example is that all of the laboratory work i keep referring like this because the 58:17.280 --> 58:23.200 University of Pittsburgh is over there um all of the laboratory work that's done in in monkeys 58:23.200 --> 58:32.080 i'm sorry mice is done in inbred mice mice that have been bred to themselves brother to sister 58:32.080 --> 58:39.040 brother to sister brother to sister until they are so genetically identical that they can be 58:39.040 --> 58:47.680 studied as one animal model because if you use outbred wild mice some of them will be smart 58:47.680 --> 58:52.880 some of them will be dumb some of them will get sick some of them won't some of them will respond 58:52.880 --> 58:57.280 well some of them won't some of them will be susceptible to your drugs some of them won't 58:57.280 --> 59:06.400 but if you have a very genetically pure inbred mouse strain all of the animals reactions to 59:06.400 --> 59:14.400 different drugs or different treatments will be much more similar and we do this in science as 59:14.400 --> 59:21.120 part of this reductionist manner of probing the universe but that reductionist manner of probing 59:21.120 --> 59:30.000 the universe has become so reduced that it no longer adequately recapitulates the complexity 59:30.000 --> 59:37.840 we're trying to understand and in this scenario um with these RNA viruses there's a tremendous 59:37.840 --> 59:44.000 complexity out there in the wild that at our best when we try to get a hold of it in the laboratory 59:44.800 --> 59:50.720 we make a DNA version of it we make it very pure and then we start with that even though 59:50.720 --> 59:57.280 we know that that does not exist out there at all and we use this to scare everybody that this is 59:57.280 --> 01:00:03.360 the pandemic potential but it really is this is how they could do it they could get this sequence 01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:09.600 in every person in the world if they made enough of it and then sold the right water bottles to 01:00:09.600 --> 01:00:15.440 everybody everybody drinking and everybody would be PCR positive if they just like if they wanted 01:00:15.520 --> 01:00:21.120 to paint everybody blue all they need to do is make enough blue paint you wouldn't that's all they 01:00:21.120 --> 01:00:27.840 need to do and if you say that oh wait somebody spilled blue paint out in my backyard and before 01:00:27.840 --> 01:00:31.440 you know it all the houses in the world are going to be blue everybody be like well how the hell's 01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:36.640 that good that's stupid that's not how paint works but that's what they're saying with RNA 01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:41.040 they're saying that somebody spilled some RNA out there and now the whole world's going to have it 01:00:41.680 --> 01:00:43.360 and that's just not possible 01:00:47.200 --> 01:00:53.680 I hope I can get you guys back I want to talk more about the jabs themselves and you know again to 01:00:53.680 --> 01:00:58.720 get back to the collateral damage that they they cause as well as Sarem Desivir and 01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:06.480 Marcus has been working with victims and with the survivors and and people that have you know 01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:14.240 and he himself and his family touched by this crazy so-called medical system and the disasters 01:01:14.240 --> 01:01:23.520 that that have followed since 2019 they just keep compounding upon one another I guess for 01:01:23.520 --> 01:01:30.320 tonight I'm really grateful for you both to share this time with me and to try to but I want what 01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:38.480 I'm really trying to do guys is to try to get your message out better and and I want you to feel 01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:46.560 successful that's great that that you guys are starting to feel like you're maybe maybe can stop 01:01:46.560 --> 01:01:53.600 them from doing the next time and you know we never know the effect of what we do we send it 01:01:53.600 --> 01:02:00.160 out into the universe and maybe this show maybe another show another day will be the trick that 01:02:00.160 --> 01:02:08.480 people say oh you know what this really was a a big conspiracy and now we're going to take names 01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:14.880 and kick some butt and and get past it because we got we got to get past it got to get back to 01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:22.880 being good a good good old USA you know the country that we all were taught to love as children we 01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:28.160 should be that country and you guys are helping me and helping everybody else to get back on track 01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:35.440 thank you very much for tonight thank you Jay thank you Mark thank you guys like to add 01:02:36.320 --> 01:02:41.680 all I'll say is I think that country is still alive and well and I think that future is still 01:02:41.680 --> 01:02:49.280 there it's alive in here and I wouldn't judge someone's patriotism by the size of the flag behind 01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:56.880 them trust me I think I think you both of you are I consider to be look mine mine is very small and 01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:03.200 understated you know it's just enough you know it doesn't need to whack you over the head and 01:03:03.200 --> 01:03:10.800 suffocate you you know is but anyways I'm and you know what even if everything was perfect 01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:15.920 everything was perfect we would still have to live this way in order to keep it that way so 01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:22.640 I view it as a as art our challenge and our responsibility one way or the other and thank you 01:03:22.720 --> 01:03:27.680 guys for being on this mission with me awesome said oh well said Mark thank you very much for 01:03:27.680 --> 01:03:34.960 having me I'll be back anytime you need well I'm looking forward to it then thank you very 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:43.040 very much JJ koui and mark kulak oocytonic live and JJ you find him on twitch at giga ohm 01:03:43.040 --> 01:03:45.840 biological 01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:55.280 well done gentlemen well done perfect do we have to keep the window open and tell things to upload 01:03:55.280 --> 01:04:03.840 or anything like that no it's good we're good hopefully you appreciated the uh uh every once 01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:10.320 a while look we're all feeling stressed but uh you know sometimes you just have to will the optimism 01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:16.320 into being you know uh and uh so thank you for letting me say those words 01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:38.240 and the clubs and the you know hey man life no well maybe the countries in better shape than we 01:04:38.240 --> 01:04:44.320 think but we're all just being fed a PCR test of America is dead well it is it really is you 01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:49.360 know you think of it and they're trying to get us to give up trying to get us to give up before 01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:51.920 it we should be maybe I don't know 01:05:08.240 --> 01:05:10.320 you 01:05:39.120 --> 01:05:41.120 you 01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:07.280 sorry about that so I'll start that over I uh I apologize for not having a regular stream tonight 01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:13.040 I know that I would normally do that but this is still it's streaming and it's on my channel and 01:06:13.040 --> 01:06:16.960 is and I wanted you to go over to rumble and watch it so hopefully some of you did go over to rumble 01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:24.080 and watch it um anyway thank you very much for being here um and I definitely gonna be here tomorrow 01:06:24.080 --> 01:06:30.480 because we're keeping this street going I think this is 21 days in a row now anyway who's counting 01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:46.400 we're just not gonna stop thanks for joining me see you tomorrow night 01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:15.040 so