guest.speaking/MedicalDoctors4CovidEthicsIntl-CharlesKovess/v5gp0hp (2024-10-16) - Dr Sucharit Bhakdi talks with Dr JJ Couey [Charles Kovess]/v5gp0hp (2024-10-16) - Dr Sucharit Bhakdi talks with Dr JJ Couey [Charles Kovess].diarized.vtt
[Charles Kovess]: Welcome to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics International, and today's special format of discussion, which will be a discussion between two experts in the field, J.J.
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[Charles Kovess]: Cooey and Sukrit Bhakti.
[Charles Kovess]: Couey and Sucharit Bhakti.
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[Charles Kovess]: Both of them have presented on a number of occasions to us.
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[Charles Kovess]: And this group was founded by Dr. Stephen Frost.
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[Charles Kovess]: I'm Charles Koves, the moderator.
[Charles Kovess]: I'm Charles Kovess, the moderator.
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[Charles Kovess]: We comprise lots of professions here, and we're from all around the world.
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[Charles Kovess]: Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War III, and that the medical science battle is only one of 12 battlefronts in this world war.
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[Charles Kovess]: But today we're focusing on the medical science battle, although I haven't been briefed precisely, Jay and Sukrit, how you're going to have this discussion, but we're very much looking forward to this.
[Charles Kovess]: But today we're focusing on the medical science battle, although I haven't been briefed precisely, Jay and Sucharit, how you're going to have this discussion, but we're very much looking forward to this.
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[Charles Kovess]: most of us understand the development of science and that the science is never settled.
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[Charles Kovess]: So we will listen to Jay and Sukrit for as long as they wish to discuss and then we'll have an opportunity for questions.
[Charles Kovess]: So we will listen to Jay and Sucharit for as long as they wish to discuss and then we'll have an opportunity for questions.
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[Charles Kovess]: Jay is only with us for an hour and a quarter from now.
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[Charles Kovess]: Thank you, everyone, for being here.
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[Charles Kovess]: Sukrit and Jay, their CVs can be found on their presentations, so I won't go through those backgrounds.
[Charles Kovess]: Sucharit and Jay, their CVs can be found on their presentations, so I won't go through those backgrounds.
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[Charles Kovess]: And Stephen, in terms of the format that you have discussed with Jay and Sukrit, we're just going to let them in.
[Charles Kovess]: And Stephen, in terms of the format that you have discussed with Jay and Sucharit, we're just going to let them in.
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[Stephen Frost]: Charles, I'll just tell you as much as I know.
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[Stephen Frost]: So I spoke to JJ last night and to Sukrit too, but I didn't want to weigh down Sukrit.
[Stephen Frost]: So I spoke to JJ last night and to Sucharit too, but I didn't want to weigh down Sucharit.
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[Stephen Frost]: So I asked JJ what he thought and he said, could I just do a brief presentation to kind of, and obviously if Sukrit wants to do the same, that's fine.
[Stephen Frost]: So I asked JJ what he thought and he said, could I just do a brief presentation to kind of, and obviously if Sucharit wants to do the same, that's fine.
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[Stephen Frost]: So I think JJ was thinking about 10, 15 minutes.
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[Stephen Frost]: And then I think the best thing would be if
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[Stephen Frost]: JJ and Sukrit could just talk.
[Stephen Frost]: JJ and Sucharit could just talk.
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[Stephen Frost]: And I suggested to JJ that if I, you know, I think the aim of the exercise is to have a very interesting video.
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[Stephen Frost]: It doesn't, they don't have to agree on everything, but I think that make the video as interesting as possible.
[Stephen Frost]: It doesn't, they don't have to agree on everything, but I think that makes the video as interesting as possible.
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[Stephen Frost]: And,
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[Stephen Frost]: Absolutely, and I think that's fine.
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[Stephen Frost]: Yes, maybe Sukrit wouldn't agree, but I'll try not to interrupt Sukrit and JJ.
[Stephen Frost]: Yes, maybe Sucharit wouldn't agree, but I'll try not to interrupt Sucharit and JJ.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Sure, go ahead.
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[J Jay Couey]: So if everybody's agreeing that I'm starting, I'm ready.
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[J Jay Couey]: Are you happy with that, Sigrid?
[J Jay Couey]: Are you happy with that, Sucharit?
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[J Jay Couey]: You don't have to agree.
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[J Jay Couey]: If you need to, you got to go to speaker view.
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[J Jay Couey]: So I come to you, Sukrit, and I'm going to make this a personal message because everyone here has seen me a lot of times.
[J Jay Couey]: So I come to you, Sucharit, and I'm going to make this a personal message because everyone here has seen me a lot of times.
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[J Jay Couey]: So we're all good friends here.
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[J Jay Couey]: But Sukrit and I actually first crossed paths in the original Doctors for COVID Ethics before it blew up.
[J Jay Couey]: But Sucharit and I actually first crossed paths in the original Doctors for COVID Ethics before it blew up.
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[J Jay Couey]: And I remember that those first few meetings very well, because the first time that I clicked on that Zoom meeting, and I saw you and
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[J Jay Couey]: And Wolfgang Wodock, I actually thought it wasn't going to last very much longer.
[J Jay Couey]: And Wolfgang Wodarg, I actually thought it wasn't going to last very much longer.
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[J Jay Couey]: And I'm coming to you as an American because I think America is actually under attack.
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[J Jay Couey]: For five years, I thought I was fighting Tony Fauci and Deborah Birx and the CDC and the lies that Peter Daszak had made some virus with the Chinese.
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[J Jay Couey]: And I thought I was fighting them by promoting these people.
[J Jay Couey]: And I thought I was fighting them by promoting these people,
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[J Jay Couey]: by trying to get on their podcast, by trying to argue with them, by trying to get them to notice me.
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[J Jay Couey]: And in fact, my CV includes a Nobel Prize winning lab and five papers with them.
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[J Jay Couey]: So it's a little bit dubious for me that I'm the only
[J Jay Couey]: So it's a little bit dubious for me that I'm the only...
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[J Jay Couey]: I don't want to toot my own horn.
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[Stephen Frost]: I'd just like to say something that, from my perspective, we've had hundreds of guests on this channel, and so I've got used to listening to people saying various things about what's happened in the last four and a half years.
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[Stephen Frost]: And Sukrit Bhakti, Professor Dr. Sukrit Bhakti, Thai-German, and you, JJ Cooey, Dr. JJ Cooey, PhD,
[Stephen Frost]: And Sucharit Bhakti, Professor Dr. Sucharit Bhakti, Thai-German, and you, JJ Couey, Dr. JJ Couey, PhD,
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[Stephen Frost]: are the outstanding people on our side.
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[Stephen Frost]: Maybe Mike Eden as well.
[Stephen Frost]: Maybe Mike Yeadon as well.
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[Stephen Frost]: He was invited tonight, but I thought that he was a little bit hard to get, but he always is like that.
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[Stephen Frost]: It would be good to have just you and
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[Stephen Frost]: Sukrit anyway and we can have Mike Eden another time but I think he's up there with you too but I think everyone in the world should listen to what you two have to say because I think from my perspective as a British medical doctor
[Stephen Frost]: Sucharit anyway and we can have Mike Yeadon another time. But I think he's up there with you too but I think everyone in the world should listen to what you two have to say because I think from my perspective as a British medical doctor,
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[Stephen Frost]: You are the two outstanding experts on COVID-19 and whether there was a pandemic or not, and whether there was in fact a disease called COVID-19, whether there was a new respiratory disease.
[Stephen Frost]: you are the two outstanding experts on COVID-19 and whether there was a pandemic or not, and whether there was in fact a disease called COVID-19, whether there was a new respiratory disease.
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[Stephen Frost]: I think you are the two guys who can work it out together.
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[J Jay Couey]: And in fact, we are where most people have come to accept that
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[J Jay Couey]: The old vaccines and the new vaccines remain a wonderfully, wonderful, great way to augment the immune system via intramuscular injection.
[J Jay Couey]: the old vaccines and the new vaccines remain a wonderfully, wonderful, great way to augment the immune system via intramuscular injection.
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[J Jay Couey]: That's where most people on the planet are in most Western countries.
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[J Jay Couey]: So if you take this, and I just want to make sure we're doing all the same mental exercise here, if you take this and try to explain this little part of the graph down here, if you can see my arrow, this little part of the graph down here, if you try to explain it with a pie graph, what you might do is say that the red is 32% COVID,
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[J Jay Couey]: The yellow is vents and protocols.
[J Jay Couey]: the yellow is vents and protocols.
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[J Jay Couey]: We killed some people.
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[J Jay Couey]: People followed the people who got censored on LinkedIn and then went to Gab.
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[J Jay Couey]: and went to Telegram and went to locals.
[J Jay Couey]: And went to Telegram and went to locals.
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[J Jay Couey]: And so actually they got us to perform several times via our phone and our social media, a literal button push to tell them that we were the dissidents and what we were doing and what we were willing to do.
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[J Jay Couey]: If you give it to them pure, not the right way, without monitoring, you can drive them right into ARDS, which will lead to bacterial pneumonia and sepsis and everything else.
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[J Jay Couey]: And so that literature is very strangely contrasting with what we did in America, which is we had people like Pierre Corey going in front of the Senate telling people that they were low on oxygen in New York City.
[J Jay Couey]: And so that literature is very strangely contrasting with what we did in America, which is we had people like Pierre Kory going in front of the Senate telling people that they were low on oxygen in New York City.
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[J Jay Couey]: And the way they solved it was giving them pure oxygen up to 60 liters a minute.
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[J Jay Couey]: and this murdered people, and then they called it COVID in the hospital.
[J Jay Couey]: And this murdered people, and then they called it COVID in the hospital.
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[J Jay Couey]: There was no expected rise in all-cause mortality on the radar of any country.
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[J Jay Couey]: And especially from the fact that those people are of all age groups.
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[J Jay Couey]: So the perceived decrease in life expectancy in America isn't from COVID, as Pierre Cory and
[J Jay Couey]: So the perceived decrease in life expectancy in America isn't from COVID, as Pierre Kory and
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[J Jay Couey]: and Tony Fauci would like you to believe.
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[J Jay Couey]: Again, because
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[J Jay Couey]: Antibiotics don't work on a viral pneumonia.
[J Jay Couey]: antibiotics don't work on a viral pneumonia.
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[J Jay Couey]: And then, of course, hospital neglect was all over the world.
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[J Jay Couey]: My father-in-law died of a urinary tract infection, and my sister-in-law had to take three or four vaccines in order to keep getting chemo in the Netherlands.
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[J Jay Couey]: PCR can be extremely high resolution on a university academic bench, but also nonsense for good
[J Jay Couey]: PCR can be extremely high resolution on a university academic bench, but also nonsense for
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[J Jay Couey]: for PCR in COVID, and none of these people in five years have been able to explain that.
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[J Jay Couey]: And finally, RNA biology does not support the premises of a pandemic, and this is a coronavirus sub-protein, and this is a drug you might be familiar with, and the only reason why any of these people can make an argument about
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[J Jay Couey]: coronavirus is being able to pandemic is because of these two little hints here.
[J Jay Couey]: coronavirus being able to pandemic is because of these two little hints here.
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[J Jay Couey]: So we can talk about that too.
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[J Jay Couey]: From before the pandemic, people were talking about how if a bat cave virus gets out,
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[J Jay Couey]: The craziest thing would be as if it becomes endemic and contributes to this already terrible background of death that Mother Nature provides for us.
[J Jay Couey]: the craziest thing would be as if it becomes endemic and contributes to this already terrible background of death that Mother Nature provides for us.
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[J Jay Couey]: So that is impossible to differentiate.
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[J Jay Couey]: They had no idea that oxygen could kill people if it was given to people at 60 liters a minute.
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[J Jay Couey]: Instead, they were super fired up about a fear and cleavage site that they were sure meant that it was a gain-of-function virus.
[J Jay Couey]: Instead, they were super fired up about a furin cleavage site that they were sure meant that it was a gain-of-function virus.
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[J Jay Couey]: They were sure that mitochondrial damage was happening or that the virus was going up the olfactory nerve.
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[J Jay Couey]: Define the countermeasures as transformations and transfections.
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[J Jay Couey]: I don't know if you're aware, Sukrit, but before the pandemic, using adenovirus to express a protein was called transformation.
[J Jay Couey]: I don't know if you're aware, Sucharit, but before the pandemic, using adenovirus to express a protein was called transformation.
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[J Jay Couey]: And using naked DNA or mRNA in a gene gun with gold particles or with lipofectamine or with centrifugation or with electroporation, that was all called transfection.
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[J Jay Couey]: And anybody that's worked in a pharmaceutical company where they make biologics like
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[J Jay Couey]: And like a monoclonal antibody, they all know that you can't make a pure, pure, pure RNA, that there will be these fragmented RNAs.
[J Jay Couey]: .. like a monoclonal antibody, they all know that you can't make a pure, pure, pure RNA, that there will be these fragmented RNAs.
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[J Jay Couey]: And all of these biologists ought to know that tiny RNAs, micro RNAs, small interfering RNAs, these are all
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[J Jay Couey]: And I know at least one man, my friend Scott, whose daughter was murdered just like that.
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[J Jay Couey]: There's a huge rise in expect at all cause mortality.
[J Jay Couey]: There's a huge rise in expected all cause mortality.
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[J Jay Couey]: That's a big one.
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[J Jay Couey]: And this lie about the spike or this lie about, I don't know what they're talking about.
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[J Jay Couey]: Those all things might be true, but transfection to any foreign protein, and I know Sukrit will agree with this, because this is who I learned it from, transfection to any foreign protein is going to challenge the immune system to attack itself.
[J Jay Couey]: Those all things might be true, but transfection to any foreign protein, and I know Sucharit will agree with this, because this is who I learned it from, transfection to any foreign protein is going to challenge the immune system to attack itself.
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[J Jay Couey]: And it's going to make mistakes.
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[J Jay Couey]: It's a terrible idea.
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[J Jay Couey]: And you're also augmenting the immune system.
[J Jay Couey]: And you're also augmenting the immune system
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[J Jay Couey]: intramuscularly, I think is a very dubious claim of methodology, because as Sukrit can tell you, the immune system is oriented, it's oriented inside out.
[J Jay Couey]: intramuscularly, I think is a very dubious claim of methodology, because as Sucharit can tell you, the immune system is oriented, it's oriented inside out.
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[J Jay Couey]: And so augmenting it not at a barrier, but behind the barrier is just insane, especially for
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[J Jay Couey]: And it's scary.
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[J Jay Couey]: They are, I need your help, Sucrit, because you and other people from Europe can look at your own vaccine schedule and compare the calendar.
[J Jay Couey]: They are, I need your help, Sucharit, because you and other people from Europe can look at your own vaccine schedule and compare the calendar.
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[J Jay Couey]: And quantity and you can see that my vaccine schedule in America is criminal and it's evidence that these people are criminals.
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[Stephen Frost]: So the whole thing about pandemics was a construct for these criminals, in my opinion, and they've been working up to it, trying to undermine the influence of immunologists who know about the wonderful immune system of all animals, including human beings.
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[Stephen Frost]: and handing it over to the virologists, whose duty, in my opinion, to all these criminals was to push virology, to hide the immunology, so that human beings, mere human beings, could actually be hubristic and say they know better than God, whoever God is.
[Stephen Frost]: And handing it over to the virologists, whose duty, in my opinion, to all these criminals was to push virology, to hide the immunology, so that human beings, mere human beings, could actually be hubristic and say they know better than God, whoever God is.
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[Stephen Frost]: So I think this is anti-human and it's really important that we get to the bottom of this about whether pandemics are possible.
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[Stephen Frost]: Sure.
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[Stephen Frost]: It's your go, Sukrit.
[Stephen Frost]: It's your go, Sucharit.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Well, I'm going to be very short.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: This is what we have to try to do.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: And as everyone who is listening today know, the WHO declared, what was this over a year ago,
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: And as everyone who is listening today knows, the WHO declared, what was this over a year ago,
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: that it was their intent to install RNA vaccinations in veterinary medicine and human medicine.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: And there's no control anymore.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: So my soul,
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: So my sole,
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: My sole purpose in the next weeks and months is my sole intent is to try to stop this and to get you guys to stop it.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: So that is actually all I wanted to say as a comment to what Jay said, because I have no comments except that I agree entirely with everything that he has said.
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[Stephen Frost]: So, Greg, can I ask you, how do you think we should, do you think that what JJ is saying, and I've been saying this for a long time, that we need to create our own narrative.
[Stephen Frost]: So Sucharit can I ask you, how do you think we should, do you think that what JJ is saying, and I've been saying this for a long time, that we need to create our own narrative.
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[Stephen Frost]: It's really important.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: I mean, Jay went into some depth, and that makes it impossible to reach the vast majority of people.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: So what I think, and this is what I want to propose to all of you today, and I'm so glad that people like Ron Johnson is there, Vera Sharaf is here.
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: So what I think, and this is what I want to propose to all of you today, and I'm so glad that people like Ron Johnson is there, Vera Sharav is here.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Hello, everyone.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Star Wars.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Because, and this is what I want to bring home today, the Robert Koch files have given you this instrument
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Because, and this is what I want to bring home today, the Robert Koch files have given you this instrument.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: They have given you a present that is more precious than anything that has happened in the last five years.
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[Nick Hudson]: There's a leak and there's the equivalent of an American FOIA.
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[Nick Hudson]: and their incompatibilities, their signs of editing of documents, including emails.
[Nick Hudson]: And their incompatibilities, their signs of editing of documents, including emails.
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[Nick Hudson]: So the provenance of these files and the manner of the leaks and FOIAs does register some concern with us, I mean, looking into it.
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[Nick Hudson]: So that's why we've been a little bit cagey.
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[Nick Hudson]: And I would encourage everybody to follow Robert Kogan, who's one of the most heavily suppressed people on social media in general.
[Nick Hudson]: And I would encourage everybody to follow Robert Kogan, who's one of the most heavily suppressed people on social media in general,
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[Nick Hudson]: and his articles.
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[Nick Hudson]: But there's a concern there, because it's also patently clear that the Robert Koch Institute had been engineering itself for years, possibly even decades, towards the end goal of proselytizing a fake pandemic.
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[Nick Hudson]: Sukrit, I'd be curious to hear whether you think I've picked out the important parts or there are other features that deserve mention.
[Nick Hudson]: Sucharit, I'd be curious to hear whether you think I've picked out the important parts or there are other features that deserve mention.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Yes, certainly.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: What you last said was, of course, a key point, meaning that these Robert Koch protocols, they are protocols of their meetings that took place daily.
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: What you last said was, of course, a key point, meaning that these Robert Koch protocols, they are protocols of their meetings that took place daily
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: starting in 2020.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Every day they came together and these protocols are the protocols of the meetings.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: And it is absolutely clear, it was March 16th, 2020, where it is written in the protocols that they knew that this virus was not particularly dangerous and therefore the danger signal was set on medium.
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: And it is absolutely clear, it was March 16th, 2020, where it is written in the protocols that they knew that this virus was not particularly dangerous and therefore the danger signal was set on medium,
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: too low, but that they were waiting for a phone call.
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: too low, but that they were waiting for a phone call
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: from a politician.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: And if they incubated the pseudovirus with their DNA,
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: anti-serum.
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: anti-serum,
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: They weren't even isolated antibodies.
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: they weren't even isolated antibodies.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: It was the raw serum from the mice that they had vaccinated.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: The sentence under that sentence says, reads, okay, relevant data will first be assessed or collected post-marketing in humans.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: meaning that they had no relevant data on C and safety, and meaning that the world population was going to be used as experimental animals.
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Meaning that they had no relevant data on efficacy and safety, and meaning that the world population was going to be used as experimental animals.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Exactly.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: lawyers can use this.
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[Stephen Frost]: Yes, so Sukrit, it's very important what you're saying.
[Stephen Frost]: Yes, so Sucharit, it's very important what you're saying.
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[Stephen Frost]: So can I just clarify, are you saying that the Robert Koch Institute, no less, with its history, you know, previously, was creating or finishing off a business plan in April 2020?
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[Stephen Frost]: Yes.
[Sucharit Bahkdi]: Yes.
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[Stephen Frost]: Yeah, it's fraud, and it's a racket, and a racket can be attacked in America, which is why I encourage... Five US states have filed criminal complaints against Pfizer.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: They can use this document
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: They can use this document.
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[Stephen Frost]: But Sukrit, I just want to say to Senator Johnson, because I think it's very important he hears this from somebody, that in my opinion, Sukrit Bhakti and JJ are the people to listen to, Senator Johnson, and
[Stephen Frost]: But Sucharit, I just want to say to Senator Johnson, because I think it's very important he hears this from somebody, that in my opinion, Sucharit Bhakti and JJ are the people to listen to, Senator Johnson, and
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[Stephen Frost]: Sukrit Bhakti in particular because he came up with the brilliant line, or he noticed, so he's a doctor and a scientist, a medical doctor and a scientist, and he came up at the end of the wonderful book which gave me hope in
[Stephen Frost]: Sucharit Bhakti in particular because he came up with the brilliant line, or he noticed, so he's a doctor and a scientist, a medical doctor and a scientist, and he came up at the end of the wonderful book which gave me hope in
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[Stephen Frost]: November 2020, I think it was, Corona false alarm.
[Stephen Frost]: November 2020, I think it was, Corona False Alarm.
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[Stephen Frost]: You said, Sukrit, this is the end of the age of the Enlightenment, the end of the age of Enlightenment.
[Stephen Frost]: You said, Sucharit, this is the end of the age of the Enlightenment, the end of the age of Enlightenment.
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[Stephen Frost]: And I thought, that sums it up for me.
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[Stephen Frost]: And you pointed that out at the end of your book.
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[Stephen Frost]: I think it was at the end of your book, Corona false alarm.
[Stephen Frost]: I think it was at the end of your book, Corona False Alarm.
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[Stephen Frost]: Yes.
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Yes.
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[Stephen Frost]: And so you could see the big picture very clearly then.
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[Stephen Frost]: Yes.
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Yes.
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[Charles Kovess]: So great.
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[Ron Johnson]: I think he's brilliant.
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[Ron Johnson]: I've been in contact with Mike Eden.
[Ron Johnson]: I've been in contact with Mike Yeadon.
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[Ron Johnson]: It's the reason I didn't get a vaccine.
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[Ron Johnson]: I talked to Mike Eden.
[Ron Johnson]: I talked to Mike Yeadon.
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[Ron Johnson]: You just said, I can use this.
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[Ron Johnson]: What I've been praying for, what I've been hoping for, before my last Senate event, I think December of 2023, 2022, I assembled all these doctors.
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[Ron Johnson]: And so I'm going to, you know, JJ is not real fond of anymore.
[Ron Johnson]: And some that, you know, JJ is not real fond of anymore.
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[Ron Johnson]: That's fine.
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[Ron Johnson]: So I want to use that committee, but I need
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[Ron Johnson]: The information I keep asking, I want new faces.
[Ron Johnson]: the information I keep asking, I want new faces.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Yes, Senator, listen, I've been following you and I would say chapeau to you.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Therefore, these vaccines are unlawful, and therefore, they must be stopped.
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[Ron Johnson]: So Dr. Bakhti, let me tell you, the problem we run into is people literally don't want to know.
[Ron Johnson]: So Dr. Bhakdi, let me tell you, the problem we run into is people literally don't want to know.
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[Ron Johnson]: I held another event on American health nutrition, a second opinion.
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[Ron Johnson]: And the result of that, let me finish.
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[Ron Johnson]: The result of that public hearing, I just got a letter today signed by something like 270 different agricultural interests, different state ag departments.
[Ron Johnson]: The result of that public hearing, I just got a letter today signed by something like 270 different agricultural interests, different state ag departments,
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[Ron Johnson]: to the agriculture committee chairman and ranking member saying how much we need these pesticides and stuff.
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[Ron Johnson]: We are a small minority and we've got to figure out what are the truths that are understandable by the public that will break through to create the public pressure to get these things changed and get it acknowledged.
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[Stephen Frost]: Susan Johnson, the reason they don't want to hear you or listen to you is because they're living in different cults and you and I and Sukrit and JJ are not good cult members.
[Stephen Frost]: Senator Johnson, the reason they don't want to hear you or listen to you is because they're living in different cults and you and I and Sucharit and JJ are not good cult members.
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[Stephen Frost]: We're unusual because human beings have a predilection for cults, for joining cults.
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[Stephen Frost]: Well, because they can then be led around and they don't have to think.
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[Stephen Frost]: They don't want to take responsibility, most human beings and people like you and Sukrit and JJ.
[Stephen Frost]: They don't want to take responsibility, most human beings. And people like you and Sucharit and JJ...
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Sorry, I must interrupt.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: we have 15 states, right?
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Saxony, you know, Turing, and in these states where the AFD has the majority, they can establish a committee of inquiry.
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Saxony, you know, Thuringia, and in these states where the AFD has the majority, they can establish a committee of inquiry.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: They don't have to ask anyone.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: I know, but they won't.
[Ron Johnson]: I know, but they won't.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Okay, that's great.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: They won't do it to Congress, unless it's me.
[Ron Johnson]: They won't do it to Congress, unless it's me.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: In the U.S.
[Ron Johnson]: In the U.S.
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[Ron Johnson]: Congress, it will not happen unless it's me.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: It could be that America and Europe have to go different ways, but the way that I think the Germans can and must take is this installation of parliamentary committees of inquiries.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: And I can tell you, Senator Johnson, that this is going to happen in Saxon, in Union.
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: And I can tell you, Senator Johnson, that this is going to happen in Saxony, in Thuringia.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: I talked to them yesterday.
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[Ron Johnson]: Didn't Germany just drop some study, though?
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[Ron Johnson]: they read about, they were going to do something, and they just dropped some inquiry?
[Ron Johnson]: that I read about, they were going to do something, and they just dropped some inquiry?
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: No, no, no, no.
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[Ron Johnson]: But they are the law.
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[Ron Johnson]: Can I just briefly interject?
[J Jay Couey]: Can I just briefly interject?
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[Ron Johnson]: No, no, no, no.
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: No, no, no, no.
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[J Jay Couey]: Yeah, JJ.
[Ron Johnson]: Yeah, JJ.
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[J Jay Couey]: So it's really important to realize that in America, we're on our own trap because we have our own laws and our own constitution.
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[J Jay Couey]: In America, what enabled this to happen was a number of laws.
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[J Jay Couey]: I'm not an expert on it, but the PrEP Act is one.
[J Jay Couey]: I'm not an expert on it, but the PREP Act is one.
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[J Jay Couey]: And what happens in the PrEP Act is very simple to explain, but only in the context of American law.
[J Jay Couey]: And what happens in the PREP Act is very simple to explain, but only in the context of American law.
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[J Jay Couey]: if the if a fundamental right in america is to be suspended the government is not assumed to be right the government is assumed to be wrong in other words it's not presumed innocent until proven guilty if the government's going to take away a fundamental right and that has been established as a very very firm
[J Jay Couey]: if the...if a fundamental right in America is to be suspended the government is not assumed to be right the government is assumed to be wrong in other words it's not presumed innocent until proven guilty if the government's going to take away a fundamental right and that has been established as a very very firm
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[J Jay Couey]: thing within american law and so the prep act allows them to suspend a number of rights including probably the seventh amendment and probably something other other another amendment and that suspension of rights is only subject to a non-elected officials whim
[J Jay Couey]: thing within American law and so the PREP Act allows them to suspend a number of rights including probably the Seventh Amendment and probably something other other another amendment and that suspension of rights is only subject to a non-elected official's whim
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[J Jay Couey]: called the rational basis review, which is basically if he has a hypothetical reason, he can do it.
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[J Jay Couey]: And what's pretty shocking is that all the lawyers that have been on our side for like 10 years on the vaccine schedule, haven't managed to
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[J Jay Couey]: get this argument together and I have and I'm not a lawyer so that's the trick because those words don't mean jack and all in Canada they don't mean jack in Australia and so our traps are all different we have to know the the beast we're fighting but each one of us is in a separate cage okay okay Jay I mean
[J Jay Couey]: get this argument together and I have and I'm not a lawyer so that's the trick because those words don't mean jack and all in Canada they don't mean jack in Australia and so our traps are all different we have to know the the beast we're fighting but each one of us is in a separate cage
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: I have no insight in the American situation.
[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Okay okay Jay I mean, I have no insight in the American situation.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: I'm just telling you what we're trying to trigger in Germany and in Austria.
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[Ron Johnson]: So I'm just looking for more people to help uncover and expose the truth, recognizing how difficult that is.
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[Stephen Frost]: Yeah, Sukrit, I think it's very important to point out that a lot of people in doctors and experts in inverted commas and scientists, even on our side, are very good at finding information.
[Stephen Frost]: Yeah, Sucharit, I think it's very important to point out that a lot of people in doctors and experts in inverted commas and scientists, even on our side, are very good at finding information.
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[Stephen Frost]: But they're very bad, in my experience running this group, at joining the dots.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Yeah, Stephen, listen, I am not here to argue with you about what you should do or what I should do.
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[Stephen Frost]: I'm not arguing, Sukrit.
[Stephen Frost]: I'm not arguing, Sucharit.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: I'm just telling you that the Robert Koch files
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Now, let me tell you.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Can you send me those pages?
[Ron Johnson]: Can you send me those pages?
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[Ron Johnson]: Send me this information.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: This is the wonderful thing about it.
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[Stephen Frost]: But Sukrit, it was not just about the vaccine.
[Stephen Frost]: But Sucharit, it was not just about the vaccine.
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[Stephen Frost]: So you're a medical doctor and I'm a medical doctor.
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[J Jay Couey]: I really appreciate it.
01:13:45.430 --> 01:13:47.911
[J Jay Couey]: Sukrit, you're one of my heroes, man.
[J Jay Couey]: Sucharit, you're one of my heroes, man.
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[J Jay Couey]: I don't know what to say.
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[Charles Kovess]: And already the state government is saying to the Port Hedland Council, keep your nose out of this stuff.
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[Charles Kovess]: There's a lot to be said for Sukrit, for what you're saying.
[Charles Kovess]: There's a lot to be said for Sucharit, for what you're saying.
01:19:18.307 --> 01:19:19.768
[Charles Kovess]: Ron says, I can't do it at the top.
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[Charles Kovess]: Yes, but we can take your advice, your comments, Sukrit, at the bottom, at local municipalities.
[Charles Kovess]: Yes, but we can take your advice, your comments, Sucharit, at the bottom, at local municipalities.
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[Charles Kovess]: And there are people on this call doing it at a county level, county by county in California.
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[Charles Kovess]: Including doctors, including doctors.
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[Charles Kovess]: Sukrit, on David Rasnick's point, and Nick, Stephen said, there are many thousands of academics now.
[Charles Kovess]: Sucharit, on David Rasnick's point, and Nick, Stephen said, there are many thousands of academics now.
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[Charles Kovess]: David, it didn't happen in the 80s.
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[Charles Kovess]: The gift of COVID has been a large awakening.
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[Charles Kovess]: Sukrit, is that your sense, Nick?
[Charles Kovess]: Sucharit, is that your sense, Nick?
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[Charles Kovess]: Many more academics and scientists are awake now than they were in the 80s.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: The committees are being set up now, as I said, in Saxony, in Thuringen and in Brandenburg.
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[Stephen Frost]: So Senator Johnson seemed to think that, the same as I thought, that something in Germany changed in this last week, Sukrit.
[Stephen Frost]: So Senator Johnson seemed to think that, the same as I thought, that something in Germany changed in this last week, Sucharit.
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[Stephen Frost]: So there was something that they were investigating.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: It's going to happen, I think, in November.
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[Stephen Frost]: But Sukrit, we've had a public inquiry in the United Kingdom, and clearly the chair of the inquiry thinks that her job is to warn the British public that they were terribly treated by the British government.
[Stephen Frost]: But Sucharit, we've had a public inquiry in the United Kingdom, and clearly the chair of the inquiry thinks that her job is to warn the British public that they were terribly treated by the British government.
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[Stephen Frost]: Every man, woman, and child suffered at the hands of the British government, I think were her exact words, but may have gotten slightly wrong.
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[Charles Kovess]: We'll share those offers now.
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[Charles Kovess]: We've got a lot of hands up, Nick and Sukrit and Steven and David.
[Charles Kovess]: We've got a lot of hands up, Nick and Sucharit and Steven and David.
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[Charles Kovess]: So shall we go to them?
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[Charles Kovess]: We've got less than an hour to go.
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[Charles Kovess]: Sukrit, you're okay for questions?
[Charles Kovess]: Sucharit, you're okay for questions?
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[Charles Kovess]: How are you placed?
01:29:26.411 --> 01:29:27.575
[Charles Kovess]: Sukrit, are you okay?
[Charles Kovess]: Sucharit, are you okay?
01:29:27.655 --> 01:29:28.397
[Charles Kovess]: No, I have no question.
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: So I think this has to be left over to other people like you and others who are in on the subject.
01:33:25.706 --> 01:33:26.927
[Charles Kovess]: Very good, Sukrit.
[Charles Kovess]: Very good, Sucharit.
01:33:28.148 --> 01:33:33.112
[Charles Kovess]: And Anders is fighting the good fight, so he will continue, as will Mark Steele, as will others.
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[Charles Kovess]: So Sukrit, thank you for that response.
[Charles Kovess]: So Sucharit, thank you for that response.
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[Charles Kovess]: Nick, is there anything you want to say on Anders' proposition on the whole question of 5G and the impact of the injections plus the 5G EMRs and the like?
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[Stephen Frost]: But I've realized in this group tonight, I can see a little team that we can assemble around Ron Johnson, because he was more or less asking for that, and I'll contact you after the meeting.
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[Stephen Frost]: So, but I don't want to say who, but I think I can see a team forming, and I hope that, Sukrit, you don't want to be part of the team, it sounds like, Sukrit, but maybe you can be our
[Stephen Frost]: So, but I don't want to say who, but I think I can see a team forming, and I hope that, Sucharit, you don't want to be part of the team, it sounds like, Sucharit, but maybe you can be our
01:35:59.275 --> 01:36:03.496
[Stephen Frost]: executive advisor, or whatever you want to call it, you know.
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[Julie Threet]: Hi, everybody.
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[Julie Threet]: Hi, Sukrit.
[Julie Threet]: Hi, Sucharit.
01:40:49.827 --> 01:40:54.670
[Julie Threet]: I wanted to give you maybe a little bit of hope, and I can hear it in your voice, and we're all kind of just exhausted.
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[Julie Threet]: being a vaccine-injured person working in these clinics, I have a ton of ideas and a ton of information on how things were administered and stored and the problems, and I think I can give them a lot of ideas.
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[Julie Threet]: But Sukrit, we're trying, and I think together we will, you know, get through this.
[Julie Threet]: But Sucharit, we're trying, and I think together we will, you know, get through this.
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[Julie Threet]: My only other question for you, I asked it last time, how's the king of Thailand's daughter?
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[Stephen Frost]: Wow.
01:44:22.479 --> 01:44:24.540
[Stephen Frost]: Sukrit also vaccinated the son?
[Stephen Frost]: Sucharit also vaccinated the son?
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[Sucharit Bhakdi]: Yes, yes, of course, they're all vaccinated.
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[Charles Kovess]: So Julie, the question that Sukrit is asking us to look at, and you might put it on the agenda, is to get the county supervisors.
[Charles Kovess]: So Julie, the question that Sucharit is asking us to look at, and you might put it on the agenda, is to get the county supervisors.
01:44:36.778 --> 01:44:40.043
[Charles Kovess]: I think there are 57 counties in California, is that correct?
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[Stephen Frost]: Tyranny.
01:49:42.635 --> 01:49:43.715
[Stephen Frost]: Tyranny, Sukrit.
[Stephen Frost]: Tyranny, Sucharit.
01:49:43.795 --> 01:49:45.216
[Stephen Frost]: Not only tyranny.
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[Charles Kovess]: All right.
02:07:52.495 --> 02:07:58.362
[Charles Kovess]: Like our last question to you, Sukrit, before Stephen Glenn says he's got a 30 second question.
[Charles Kovess]: Like our last question to you, Sucharit, before Stephen Glenn says he's got a 30 second question.
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[Charles Kovess]: Go for it, Glenn.
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[Charles Kovess]: All right.
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[Charles Kovess]: Sukrit, we know you're tight.
[Charles Kovess]: Sucharit, we know you're tight.
02:10:00.853 --> 02:10:03.214
[Charles Kovess]: Stephen, over to you, Stephen, for the last.
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[Charles Kovess]: You've got to go, Sukrit, I know.
[Charles Kovess]: You've got to go, Sucharit, I know.
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[Charles Kovess]: OK.
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[Stephen Frost]: So I was going to ask you, Sukrit, one of the problems we seem to have amongst the good people on our side is that they don't understand causation.
[Stephen Frost]: So I was going to ask you, Sucharit, one of the problems we seem to have amongst the good people on our side is that they don't understand causation.
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[Stephen Frost]: And I just wonder whether you could speak about that a little bit to throw light on why it's so difficult to prove causation.
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[Stephen Frost]: Yes.
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[Charles Kovess]: All right, Sukrit, we're letting you go and we're going to end this meeting.
[Charles Kovess]: All right, Sucharit, we're letting you go and we're going to end this meeting.
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[Stephen Frost]: But the point about that, the point about that, Sukrit, so viewers may not understand.
[Stephen Frost]: But the point about that, the point about that, Sucharit, so viewers may not understand.
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[Stephen Frost]: So the point is that the, you know, VAERS, for example, it could be reported that someone's got headache, you know, or millions have got headache, you know, but it was a minor thing.
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[Charles Kovess]: Very good.
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[Charles Kovess]: Thank you, Sukrit.
[Charles Kovess]: Thank you, Sucharit.
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[Charles Kovess]: Okay, we've got a whole two and a half hours.
[Charles Kovess]: not only 99.999% empty space, we're entirely empty space, so that your thoughts create it.
02:20:50.804 --> 02:20:52.967
[Charles Kovess]: Sukriti, you were talking about the mind-body-spirit.
[Charles Kovess]: Suchariti, you were talking about the mind-body-spirit.
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[Charles Kovess]: That's exactly what it's about.
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[Charles Kovess]: contributions to the chat, and we've got lots of work to do everybody, so time to come to these meetings so that you realize we've got another three years of hard work ahead of us, so no getting tired and look after your health.
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[Charles Kovess]: Sukrit, thank you so much.
[Charles Kovess]: Sucharit, thank you so much.
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[Charles Kovess]: Big round of applause, everybody.
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[Stephen Frost]: Thank you all.
02:21:25.032 --> 02:21:26.954
[Stephen Frost]: Still drawing applause, Sukrit.
[Stephen Frost]: Still drawing applause, Sucharit.
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[Stephen Frost]: I know you're modest, but
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