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+I think here we took the light turn shaking, sure.
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+We took this road and turned to the right.
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+No wonder we're lost.
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+You've been reading the map upside down.
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+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
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+Stop lying!
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+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
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+Welcome to the show.
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+It's 8th of September, 2023.
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+Good to see you this evening.
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+There probably was no spread in New York City.
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+Infectious clones are probably the only real threat.
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+The SIBO batches were likely distributed to confuse us a little more.
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+And transfection, healthy mammals is dumb.
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+Protocols were murdered, gained a function as a mythology.
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+The Scooby-Doo is real.
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+You have been fooled into thinking you've solved this mystery
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+and the players are committed to the lies.
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+You're just going to have to cover terms with it.
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+They're going to look you right in the face.
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+While they tell you they love you, they're going to lie to you.
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+MUSIC
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+Right to your face, they're going to lie to you.
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+And that's why we've got to keep vigilant.
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+That's why we've got to keep vigilant.
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+I can't stress enough how important it is to go forward with your heart wide open.
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+Feel what people are saying.
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+And if you don't trust them, then stop watching.
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+It's really that simple.
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+Because we are at a stage where you've only got about...
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+You've only got so many waking hours in the day.
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+And if you don't manage your brain well enough, you're going to become a depressed animal.
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+And if you want to know, anybody is trying to shoulder that weight for you.
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+It's me.
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+And what you see happening before you is the slow withering of somebody who used to believe
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+that America and biology and life was nothing but excitement and positivity and promise.
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+And while I still want to believe that for my children and for my grandchildren,
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+I am disturbed to realize that we are three years into this and we are not as far as I hope we would be.
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+But there is a light.
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+There is a shining light in this tunnel.
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+I assure you.
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+And that is that if you just follow the rule of ignoring the television,
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+if you follow the rule of ignoring the bait on social media, Twitter is so awful.
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+I'm trying to move exclusively to my soapbox.
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+And I'm just going to clip pictures from soapbox and post them on Twitter.
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+For the people that like to follow me on Twitter, I'm very, very sorry.
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+But it's just too much awfulness there.
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+And it is really designed that way.
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+And couple that with the fact that we give away so much of what we're thinking when we're on that platform.
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+I think it's best if you just show up there, you take a crap and you leave.
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+I hate that place and I don't want to hate anything anymore.
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+I'm sure these people have changed the way we think about certain things in biology
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+and that led to certain calamities over the last three years.
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+And I'm just not going to pull any punches anymore because I really believe that the bottom line is
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+that some of these people are responsible.
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+And they're responsible because they weren't really fighting to find the way out of the cave.
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+They were actually taking advantage of everybody being in the cave and them having some clue
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+as to what was going to be okay to talk about or what was going to be exciting to talk about.
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+And gaining some comfort.
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+I don't know what.
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+But some of these people were tipped off to the fear and cleavage site in January of 2020.
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+I will go so far as to say that anyone that didn't have a coronavirus paper on their CV
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+and was not actively working at a university,
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+and you wrote a blog about the fear and cleavage site in January of 2020,
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+you need to come forward and admit it.
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+That somebody called you.
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+Somebody tipped you off.
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+If you were talking about spike protein toxicity before anybody was even sure this was a pandemic,
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+some of you definitely need to cop to the fact that you were tipped off.
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+And no matter how much of a hero you like to think of yourself as,
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+you need to think back and realize that, oh my gosh,
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+I might have been responsible for ceding the panic that they were able to take advantage of,
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+ceded by the theater of New York City, so carefully documented now by Jessica Hockett.
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+This aberrant four weeks in New York City that was paraded around the world as the start
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+of worst case scenario as Dr. Kevin McCarran so aptly described it back in February and March of 2020
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+already with such certainty about the coming calamity.
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+That's how we got here.
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+And you will find that many of the people that are in this diagram have been very accurately
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+characterized by me as being people who should have done known better.
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+And it's too late for Brett Weinstein to figure out that anywhere that the LMB takes the RNA
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+that there's a potential for auto immunity.
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+It's too late.
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+I was explaining to that him in his signal chat in 2021 and he ignored me.
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+And in 2021, that coward had Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on his stream in his house.
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+And that coward didn't release that podcast until it was cool in 2023.
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+And I can say a lot about everybody on this side of the graph because of when they came out,
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+how they came out and where they are now.
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+None of them questioned the virus.
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+None of them questioned the danger and the crisis.
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+None of them really questioned the intention of the RNA.
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+And none of them questioned the gain of function could be the source of it and it could be the source of it again.
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+They're all members of the same faith.
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+And it's a very different kind of faith than what I'm talking about here.
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+This is a faith that if we are fighting for the sake of heaven, if we are fighting for the sake of truth,
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+not for the sake of victory, then our fight will will stand the test of time.
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+And our goals are valid.
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+And I'm happy to be wrong.
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+I'm happy to be wrong, but don't make any mistake about it.
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+I have been fighting and working tooth and nail since 2020.
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+I have every right to be where I am with the relative confidence that I have.
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+Because I bend down the other roads.
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+I explored all those caverns first too.
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+And they're all dead ends.
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+And I came back to the center and I'm the one with the flashlight in the front of the cave while everybody's still yelling about rooms back there.
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+Those people don't want you out.
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+I think Nick Hudson wants you out.
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+I think Mark Koolak wants you out.
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+I think definitely Jessica Hockett wants you out.
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+I think Thomas Binder wants you out.
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+I think Dennis Rancor wants you out.
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+Denny.
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+All the other people on this screen, I'm not so sure.
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+I hope and pray that Bobby wants us out.
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+I hope and pray that Robert Malone wants us out.
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+But I've been paying attention to people's behavior.
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+And I've had the privilege of having them pay attention to me.
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+And that means I get to see a different kind of behavior that a lot of other people don't see.
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+And I believe that we are the victim of a very, very deep con.
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+Lots of people have been conscripted into this con to control the narrative from both sides, whether they know it or not.
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+Whether they understand the depth and the breadth of the operation or not.
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+That is what has been done to us.
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+We have been fooled as a society.
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+Think about that.
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+The breadth and the depth of that attack cannot be underestimated.
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+And to think about the potential for how many people are involved and how many different levels.
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+Everyone on this screen, wittingly or unwittingly, has taken part in the authentication and mystique of the intellectual dark web
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+and the ones that have prarited and not questioned the faith in the novel virus, the faith in the crisis, the faith in the countermeasures, the faith in the return of a new virus.
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+The belief in the mythology of gain of function.
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+These people and many others have never questioned those tenements.
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+And that's how the Scooby-Doo works, because you get fooled into thinking that you solved the mystery, you uncovered the monster, and Barrick and Daisyak and Fauci go to jail.
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+Or maybe the Chinese government gets blamed.
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+Or maybe we find out it was Ukrainian labs.
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+But in the end there's going to be another monster.
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+In the end we're going to have to have the same panic again with the same mystery of which garage did it come out of.
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+And the way out is biology.
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+The way out is coming to understand that transfection can never be immunization and we have even learned more than that.
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+What we've learned is that there's no combination of chemicals that can be justifiably injected intramuscularly to usefully augment an immune system.
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+Now I'm not going so far as to say that there aren't vaccination methodologies that couldn't impart immunity that's useful to humans and done in the skin, inhaled, maybe even drank,
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+but do not and repeat do not forget that the immune system is a very special system.
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+Do not underestimate the danger of inhaling things to augment your immune system.
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+Do not underestimate it.
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+The only way in my humble opinion that you can be immunized safely is either through the skin by variation which I'm not even really sure about.
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+And the other way would be through the gut.
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+Because there in the payer's patches is where the rubber meets the road as far as tolerance and immunity.
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+And without that crucial part of the immune system interacting with others, you have nothing.
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+And that is the basis. That is the reason. That is the why of why you cannot inject somebody in their muscle and usefully augment their immune system.
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+So everybody that's talking about gain of function viruses and crazy spike proteins with HIV inserts is talking about nothing really.
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+Because even if all those stories are true, we don't win by crying about the gain of function virus.
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+We don't. We win by no longer complying.
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+We win by no longer allowing them to inject our children by making them test these products.
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+That's the only way we win.
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+All other avenues lead to capitulation, lead to digital IDs, and lead to your children being basically bio-surveiled as slaves for their entire lives.
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+That's what's coming.
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+And so if you don't believe it, here's Mr. Yee, Michael Yee, aka Mr. Sparkle.
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+Mr. Sparkle is disrespectful of dirt.
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+And in this case, Michael Yee is disrespectful of BS from all sides.
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+And I want you to watch and listen carefully for the words that he chooses, the rationales that he makes.
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+And listen carefully for when Steve Kirsch talks, because it ain't very often.
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+And I have a feeling there's a good reason why.
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+I'm really excited.
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+Oh shoot, I did the cut wrong again.
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+Gosh darn it.
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+So terrible at this self-direction crap.
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+Really make this a great turnout.
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+All right, so now for Steve's very compelling interview with Dr. Mike Eden.
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+I'm going to go over to the Gricketts a little bit.
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+He was formerly a chief scientist and vice president at Pfizer's Allergy and Respiratory Research Division.
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+Went on to form his own biotech company.
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+However, in the wake of COVID-19, Dr. Yee has emerged as one of the most prominent critics of the COVID-19 quote vaccines, end quote.
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+And the broader vaccine agenda propagated by big pharma.
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+He has of course been the object of their attacks, but he is a trusted and important voice in our movement.
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+So let's take a listen.
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+Hey Mike, it's good to talk to you again.
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+Steve, great to be with you here today.
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+So you probably have an interesting story to tell in terms of what you'd like people listening to this broadcast to know.
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+So what's kind of on the top of your mind right now?
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+Yeah, so people probably know that I'm a lifetime professional research scientist.
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+Always wants to do that since I was a kid.
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+Properly qualified, full career in big pharma and then 10 years independent and biotech did very well.
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+So I was enjoying it with a light consulting when we were told a pandemic had begun in 2020.
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+And I think famously I realized very early on that people I faintly knew of on the telly because I've been around so long that I know some of the people in public health.
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+They were lying.
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+So I didn't say that first of all, but I realized they were using things like PCR tests.
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+I knew just about enough of those to know like with any test you have to do internal controls.
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+There was no sign of any of that.
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+And so I smelled a rat early on and that I probably became infamous on Twitter,
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+arguing the talks about PCR tests and no one cares.
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+And it's occurred to me later in the year that they were not only lying about these diagnostic tests,
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+but in my view about absolutely every other part of the narrative, including masking,
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+asymptomatic transmission, lockdowns, border closures, all that sort of stuff.
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+And so later in the year, I think I became the first person using the L word.
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+They are lying because if scientists give their opinion,
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+and Graham's pumber on the telly with the tie and the title is saying something else,
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+they'll never take.
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+They'll never, the public won't weigh those things.
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+If you say they're lying and here's why, or here's how, you got a chance.
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+And so, and I'm afraid, yeah, I've noticed that the authorities have been lying continuously.
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+Whether there was, I don't believe there was a pandemic, but let's say there was something.
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+It was no more serious than flu.
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+Do we ever close the world down for flu?
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+No, we don't close the world down for flu.
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+So straight away folks, whether you believe there has been a pandemic or has not been a pandemic,
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+some great and powerful people have closed the world down based on a public health hazard
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+that is not abnormal.
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+And then the persuaded banjoed, coerced, and sometimes mandated used to roll a sleeve up
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+to take a completely novel concoction, a so-called gene-based, gene-based vaccines.
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+I don't think of them as vaccines.
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+And I knew because of my toxicology and drug discovery and experience that these things,
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+if they did anything at all, would be harmful and said so.
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+That's when my world fell in.
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+In early December 2020, I'd been banjoed a bit on Twitter by presumably paid trolls and people
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+who had just disagreed with me.
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+But that's when the National Broadcaster and several well-known journalists decided that
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+they'd have enough of me and were going to tell me off.
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+So that's when I became the anti-vaxxer darling or whatever it is.
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+And basically, I've said to people, this is an important thing to say,
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+my radar, my job is to join dots.
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+That's what I've always done on my life.
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+And it's probably about the only thing I was unusually good at.
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+So I often see patterns in sparse data before other people do.
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+Danger of that is sometimes I see patterns that aren't there.
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+But if you're forming the patterns and you're doubling back on yourself,
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+I tend to be ahead.
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+So my mind is usually several months ahead of my mouth.
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+So by summer of 2020, I was alluding in interviews to the possibility that if somebody
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+wanted to poison a significant proportion of population that could come up with a better
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+way than lying about a pandemic and saying, here's a medicine.
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+I already knew by the end of March 2020 that the only thing that made sense to shut the
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+world down, therefore with enormous financial consequences when it was not necessary,
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+that meant the owners of assets and capital must have signed the box for that.
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+You must have signed that off.
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+Why would they do that?
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+And I came to the conclusion and I think that was right.
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+Control was the reward.
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+Digital control.
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+By the end of the year, I could see it's as simple as this.
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+I think there may be more than this, but just from the biology,
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+I believe the perpetrators intend to require us to carry mandatory digital ID.
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+Hopefully in your hand rather than inside your forehead, but I wouldn't count on it being
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+limited to a device in your hand and then cashless central bank digital currencies.
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+That's all that's required.
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+That is all that's required to remove every last wisp of your freedom because if I'm running
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+this and I say, I'm going to require digital ID, valid digital ID before you do anything
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+before you buy anything.
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+He's not running right now.
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+It's all across any regulated threshold.
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+And if I define value as up to date with the latest WHO recommended inverse commerce
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+vaccines, that's all I need to remove all of your freedom permanently.
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+And it's quite shocking when you realize it would take only two or three acts.
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+If we didn't react, I'm not sure any of us are going to have enough of us will react.
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+For example, in Britain, the Bank I banked with national Westminster, I've been with
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+them for 40 something years, and they just likely announced last week that as from then September,
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+they're going to reduce the amount of cash a customer can obtain every day from the bank
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+regardless of their balance.
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+It's at £250.
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+And I think when did the bank last decide how much of my post-tax money I may obtain?
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+So I went into the bank to reminisce straight in the start so that we didn't know anything
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+about it.
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+But it's on their website.
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+So they're about to do it.
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+There are no pitchforks and torches in the street.
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+This is how they get us.
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+So I've made sure I've got plenty of cash and non-cash equivalents because at some point
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+I think people's money will be stolen in some way through banking crisis or whatever.
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+So if you want to carry on using a live outside the system, then you'll need some means of
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+exchange that's not dependent on whatever restrictions they put in place.
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+So I think that's where we're going.
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+Some other friends who are cleverer than me in military matters are concerned that there
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+could be a more could be precipitated or food shortages.
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+I've nothing to say yes or no on those things.
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+What do I know?
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+But in terms of the controller agenda, I think what I've described is seems like a
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+relatively close and the clues are there, aren't they?
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+The WHO and the European Union announced last month that they were going to adopt the EU
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+would adopt this sort of travel pass which will contain your health status.
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+So that's I think vaccine passport at some point, which is unnecessary of course.
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+And then like I've just said, the bank is making it harder to obtain and to use cash.
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+So it's like it's converging on the spot I pointed to.
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+And I've already made my decision and I recommend to people that you don't need a digital
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+ID.
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+I don't need a digital ID and your whole life has been lived in a law abiding successful way
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+without digital ID for every sort of zero trust society that they're talking about.
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+So I've resolved not to sign up for it.
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+And if I'm told that's the end of your access to money, then so be it.
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+I believe this is this machine is one that will be used kilowatt of people and I'm not
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+going to step into the machine.
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+That's what I'm not going to do.
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+And I'll keep speaking because I was discussing with your assistant.
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+I characterise every day and a brave person dies only once.
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+I may not be accurate in every deduction I make.
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+I always say to people, I don't have a copy of the script.
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+But I'm sincere in what I'm saying.
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+It's complete nonsense, isn't it?
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+I mean, the shutting the world down for a few like illness, even if it was a multiple of
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+its lethality is mad, but they've done it everywhere.
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+And that means that's proved positive.
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+The national activity, right, straight away in March 2020, super national activity.
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+Because how could 160 countries decide at once to do the same crazy,
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+unprecedented, not in their pandemic preparedness plan restrictions?
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+And the answer is that it was agreed at a level above.
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+And there were loads of tabletop simulations of this kind of event,
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+including famously event 201 in 2019.
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+But these started in the late 90s.
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+And there have been tabletop simulations of pandemics and bioterror.
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+I think there's like 15 of them run by Johns Hopkins,
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+Bellarmine, the Gates, the US military, and increasingly senior ministers in each
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+of the Western countries and eventually including China.
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+So there's been a lot of rehearsal for this.
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+And I'm not convinced.
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+I'll put my stick my neck out and say, I don't think severe respiratory illness
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+pandemics are possible.
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+And that's because you're not infectious until you're loaded with whatever the pathogen is.
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+And when you are, you are symptomatic.
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+That is ill and you withdraw from circulation.
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+And the worse it is, the more quickly and more categorically you withdraw and that terminates
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+transmission.
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+So the idea that there could be a like flying Ebola,
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+I mean, you wouldn't want to catch it.
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+Probably killing it, assuming it's real.
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+But it's not going to spread very far.
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+Because these people who get Ebola or whatever it's got, whatever it is,
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+they get sick apparently, really ill the same day that they contact the person with the
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+symptoms and often they're dead the next day.
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+So you're not going to be breezing around, you know, Kmart and buying gasoline and going
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+to have the only true apartheid.
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+So you're not going to be infecting very many people.
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+And that's the whole point.
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+There's a R0 R0 transmission number is great with things that leave you symptom free for
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+a long time.
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+But you're not, I just don't believe in respiratory illnesses that people are symptomatic.
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+Sorry, are infectious unless they're symptomatic because they both pivot on a common factor,
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+which is a long full of pathogen and both, you know, both situations to be a good source
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+of infection.
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+You have to have a lot of it and you will have symptoms.
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+That's according to the narrative.
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+I, as you've heard, I want to say I've had a conversion and I'm not sure of the sort of
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+no virus arguments.
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+But I don't believe there's been a pandemic that set me apart from quite a few people.
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+I'm a scientist and I'm following the data.
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+So the reason I say it, the reason I say it, it's just one, one reason.
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+It's nothing to do with the no virus arguments.
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+It's nothing to do with whether it's been isolated or not, nothing at all.
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+It's wholly down to the epidemiological work of Dennis Rancourt and his colleagues who
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+looked at all course mortality, asking only the date of a death, the sex and age of the
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+person who died, and they collected data from each of the 50 states every week.
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+And I think they've done at least three years' worth.
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+And there was no pandemics to use.
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+There was no increase in all course mortality anywhere until WHO called the pandemic.
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+And then as we know, mad protocols were introduced in hospitals like mass ventilation.
+
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+I'm a respiratory guy.
+
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+I understand a bit about that.
+
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+Listen to this.
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+Listen to this.
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+If you have an open airway, you haven't got asthma or an object in your throat.
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+30:15.000 --> 30:20.000
+So if you can breathe in and out through your airway and you haven't been stabbed or shot or crushed.
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+So your chest wardens intact.
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+You never, ever sedate, intubate and ventilate.
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+Unless it's for something like elective surgery.
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+You don't do it for flu.
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+So when tens or hundreds of thousands of people were subjected to this treatment, I knew that that was going to end badly.
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+And then these poor souls were also given intravenous remdesivir in the US, I believe, from a company called Gilead.
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+And the material is poisonous.
+
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+And that combination of a very stressful mechanical ventilation is life saving.
+
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+When you come in with a head injury and you're not breathing or, you know, or as I say, elective surgery or perhaps your burns and you need to be stated.
+
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+It's a lifesaver.
+
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+It's and the trade-offs of risks for your pulmonary health are definitely worth it.
+
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+But a person who comes in anxious, short, short of breath and so on.
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+Give them an oxygen mask and half a valium tablet and put them on around them.
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+You definitely don't do what they did.
+
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+But that was mandated.
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+So I knew that was going to happen.
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+Give them a half a valium and put your arm around.
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+That's brilliant.
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+Oh, it's brilliant.
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+People were given my jazz 11 morphine in Britain for short, which is two thirds of the lethal injection I've used in some US states.
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+My PhD was in the effects of opiates on respiration.
+
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+So I knew that my jazz 11 morphine was, you shouldn't give, if you give that to unattended elderly, somewhat frail people.
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+Most of them will have stopped for you to give enough of those.
+
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+Steve is speechless.
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+It's contrary indicated, except in your high dependency setting.
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+So the fact that we're giving them to tens of thousands of elderly folk and care homes is that's mass murder.
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+Sorry.
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+And then look at Steve.
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+There was a long running controversy.
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+It's like a jet in front of a industry about whether or not it was appropriate to give antibiotics for people who had a chesty cough after they'd had a cold or something.
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+We usually do it because on the precautionary principle, if you don't and they get pneumonia, they could die in a few days.
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+So, but people were saying, well, we've never done the controlled trial.
+
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+They have now because during 2020, on all sorts of fraudulent grounds, doctors were instructed pretty much to withhold antibiotics from people who had a positive COVID test on the grounds that antibiotics don't kill viruses.
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+It's like, that's true.
+
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+But people who've had one acute episode often follow it with bacteria on pneumonia.
+
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+That's well known.
+
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+And so they halved the number of prescriptions for antibiotics, chest infections, and people, young people as well, just died in their very, so tough way to get the experiment done.
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+But that's those with us three main methods. I call that Iatrogenic murder.
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+Yeah.
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+I don't think a new path doesn't kill anybody. I could be wrong, but there's no evidence for it.
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+Well, no, that's not true.
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+There's lots of bits of evidence, most of which I think is fraudulent.
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+Molecular biology is the best biological science to cheat in because it nearly all involves computers, algorithms, assumptions.
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+It's a bit of tissue twitching or an animal breathing or not breathing.
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+You get a bunch of code.
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+And even when they do sequencing, it's not what you think it is.
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+It doesn't do what you think it does.
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+Next generation sequencing, for example, is just, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a mad lottery that's decoded using software.
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+And I remember when I was in the industry speaking to experts, I said, this is, this just strikes me as statistical, statistical, like, this is like probabilistic pharmacology.
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+And they said, yeah, that's right.
+
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+So I, anyway, so the fact that there was not an increase in all cause mortality when this virus was supposed to be sweeping across Western Europe and America tells me,
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+and also I'd say to Steve, that we, I think we would agree that authorities lied to us about masking.
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+They lied to us about the spirit of public health emergency.
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+The lie to us about the necessity is still going testing.
+
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+They lied about asymptomatic transmission.
+
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+They lied about the needs for border closes, small business closes, exception, et cetera, et cetera.
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+So the same people, some of those lying down on that line.
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+They're the people who told us there's a novel, novel virus.
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+And yet the all cause mortality data says there's nothing unusual happening in the spring.
+
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+So I think it's a real stretch to go and find, find a virus.
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+And I think, again, I've said to people, I'm not going to fight people on our inside.
+
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+We've got enough bloody common greeze things running against us that let's not fall out over this stuff.
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+Or if you want to, I'll let you fall out.
+
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+But that's where I've got to.
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+I've said before that I'm not clever enough to follow the so-called no virus arguments completely.
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+And also I know people who work in virology.
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+I've explained this to them and they said, no, no, you don't understand Mike.
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+And then they start talking in deep technical terms.
+
+35:52.000 --> 35:57.000
+And they've said, I know that virus X and Y exist because I work top.
+
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+And I think, you know what, I'm not going to gain to say these people.
+
+36:00.000 --> 36:03.000
+So that's where I get caught.
+
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+I look at the data for the pandemic.
+
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+If no viruses really exist, I'm not clever enough to make the arguments.
+
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+That is a great way to pass that buck.
+
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+And I may even start using it.
+
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+But for him to do it that way and for anyone, for anyone to do it that way is perfectly legit.
+
+36:31.000 --> 36:32.000
+Why?
+
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+Because you're only not consenting to be governed by that premise that there are viruses that can threaten the world.
+
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+Even if, even if your stance is, I don't, I'm not smart enough to understand if that phenomenon is possible, but I will not be governed by it.
+
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+And I really think it's an important thing to take away from this because you don't ever need to get into the weeds with anyone about if there's a virus or not.
+
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+You can if you want to.
+
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+And I think it's a very interesting discussion to have with somebody who wants to have it with you in earnest, who wants to talk about the lack that pure missing data at this size scale and our horrible inability to analyze at this size scale.
+
+37:26.000 --> 37:43.000
+If somebody's really willing to talk about it, it's a great and wonderful discussion about how complex biology is and about how difficult it is to distill it down further than where we have it right now, just because our tools can't allow us to.
+
+37:43.000 --> 37:45.000
+And that's okay.
+
+37:45.000 --> 37:53.000
+Because there are many biologists out there that think there is a complexity beyond which we're not really going to penetrate.
+
+37:54.000 --> 38:04.000
+Because when you remove a piece, it doesn't work anymore. So there are no evolutionary steps that lead to an airplane.
+
+38:04.000 --> 38:12.000
+And so at some moment, you've got to realize that there might be something more here, whatever it is.
+
+38:12.000 --> 38:22.000
+And whatever it is, there's going to be a lot of this biology that we're never going to understand because it's layers and layers of complexity.
+
+38:22.000 --> 38:30.000
+And so even if we think we can see how the gears are working together, we can't see it across time and space, my friends.
+
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+We can't see it across generations.
+
+38:34.000 --> 38:49.000
+And so we've got to come to terms with the fact that these kinds of cartoons that are flying behind my head, they're all imaginary ways of mystifying you to make you think that the computers have solved how proteins fold.
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+Or that we know how viruses and exosomes and the immune system all work together.
+
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+We don't.
+
+38:59.000 --> 39:07.000
+And so it's okay to say, I'm not clever enough to make that argument because in reality, probably none of us are.
+
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+And in fact, I'm kind of making that argument.
+
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+I'm kind of making the argument that if you really argue in earnest and you argue with honest, forthright admission of what's real and what's not, you have to acknowledge the swarm.
+
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+You have to acknowledge clones.
+
+39:26.000 --> 39:32.000
+You have to acknowledge the preponderance of particles that appear to be not infectious.
+
+39:32.000 --> 39:37.000
+You have to acknowledge the ridiculous cartoon of the infectious cycle.
+
+39:37.000 --> 39:46.000
+You have to acknowledge the ridiculous cartoon of next generation sequencing and metagenomic sequencing.
+
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+And you have to acknowledge the fact that we've gone from almost unable to track them to being able to apparently track one all around the world for years and years.
+
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+Mike Eden just mopped the floor with Steve and he's going to continue to do it.
+
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+I don't make the argument, but we've been lied to definitely.
+
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+And the perpetrators meant us harm initially, because as soon as the pandemic was called, they changed hospital care home and community treatments that predictably resulted in hundreds of thousands of innocent people using their lives.
+
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+I mean, I think they were murdered.
+
+40:31.000 --> 40:33.000
+I had a gigantic murder.
+
+40:33.000 --> 40:41.000
+And then while that was going on, a bunch of people in my former industry of which I'm going to have thoroughly ashamed.
+
+40:41.000 --> 40:47.000
+I wouldn't, I was dropped by all my consulting funds in the summer of 2020.
+
+40:47.000 --> 40:50.000
+I didn't mind them doing that.
+
+40:50.000 --> 40:52.000
+I didn't need their money.
+
+40:52.000 --> 40:53.000
+And you know what?
+
+40:53.000 --> 40:55.000
+I didn't need them contacted me now.
+
+40:55.000 --> 40:59.000
+I would say screw you, you know, don't work for a crooked industry.
+
+40:59.000 --> 41:03.000
+And so I feel embarrassed that I didn't realize it wasn't all crooked.
+
+41:03.000 --> 41:06.000
+I, I, I assure you, there are some very good drugs.
+
+41:06.000 --> 41:09.000
+I think it got crooked around the turn of the century.
+
+41:09.000 --> 41:17.000
+And I can even remember, I think we were running out of drug targets, Steve, and management realized we couldn't produce the output required.
+
+41:17.000 --> 41:26.000
+And some clever people came up with molecular biological ways to make, to identify and validate new targets quickly.
+
+41:26.000 --> 41:31.000
+And it was like the human genome project sequencing whole humans.
+
+41:31.000 --> 41:33.000
+And that's faster and faster.
+
+41:33.000 --> 41:39.000
+And they said, if we can sequence whole, whole organisms and do high throughput screening.
+
+41:39.000 --> 41:41.000
+Mark, do you hear it?
+
+41:41.000 --> 41:42.000
+Okay.
+
+41:42.000 --> 41:44.000
+Game of function is something I've even done.
+
+41:44.000 --> 41:48.000
+You, if you, if you have a protein, you don't even know what it does.
+
+41:48.000 --> 41:51.000
+You can, you can do what's called an alanine, an alanine scan.
+
+41:51.000 --> 41:54.000
+So you change all the side change one after another.
+
+41:54.000 --> 42:01.000
+Position one, two, three, four, five, you sequence, you change it from alanine, which is normally a small, non-polar thing.
+
+42:01.000 --> 42:03.000
+And you see, does that change the function?
+
+42:03.000 --> 42:04.000
+And often it does.
+
+42:04.000 --> 42:10.000
+It's a, and anyway, so senior management persuaded the board that if we spent all these dollars on,
+
+42:10.000 --> 42:18.000
+I think Pfizer made a big six investments in sort of bioinformatics, screening, human genome and stuff.
+
+42:18.000 --> 42:26.000
+I remember speaking to people at the time and I'm saying, this process requires what I call a Tamobox Steve.
+
+42:26.000 --> 42:27.000
+You're moving from the left to the right.
+
+42:27.000 --> 42:30.000
+You've got information on the right is the pot of gold.
+
+42:30.000 --> 42:33.000
+Tamob stands for then a miracle occurs.
+
+42:34.000 --> 42:40.000
+It's like you couldn't logically follow all the steps and have any real chance of getting a drug.
+
+42:40.000 --> 42:45.000
+And I only know of one drug that emerged out of that, out of that investment.
+
+42:45.000 --> 42:51.000
+And dammit, it's supposedly treats HIV that I think is fraudulent.
+
+42:51.000 --> 42:57.000
+You know, I'm afraid HIV was made up by the people.
+
+42:58.000 --> 43:00.000
+She's joking.
+
+43:00.000 --> 43:02.000
+That has made this up.
+
+43:02.000 --> 43:05.000
+But so that's like an end of anyway.
+
+43:05.000 --> 43:08.000
+So like it's just to be clear, it hasn't been a pandemic.
+
+43:08.000 --> 43:12.000
+I can't comment on whether or not someone's got something in a test tube.
+
+43:12.000 --> 43:18.000
+And I'm not willing to make some statement about the entire cast.
+
+43:18.000 --> 43:21.000
+Okay, I think it's really important to point out right here before I forget it.
+
+43:21.000 --> 43:25.000
+And before Mark puts down his phone or wherever you're listening, Mark.
+
+43:25.000 --> 43:49.000
+Realize that what Michael just said was that at certain point in the 90s or whenever they were running out of drug targets about the same time that the human genome project starts and finishes and gives these people all kinds of new drug targets that they can make antibodies to
+
+43:50.000 --> 43:57.000
+And target them and patent the methodologies by which they generate those antibodies and boom.
+
+43:57.000 --> 44:09.000
+There's this explosion of intellectual property that's based on the NIH decoding the human genome and giving them all these novel targets.
+
+44:12.000 --> 44:13.000
+Did you hear it?
+
+44:13.000 --> 44:15.000
+That's exactly what he said.
+
+44:16.000 --> 44:24.000
+It's really wonderful. I guess is the best thing I've ever listened to in the last like month and a half period of pathogens. I'm not clever enough.
+
+44:24.000 --> 44:30.000
+That's what I'll stop. But nasty people are coming at us. The evidence for that was very clear very early.
+
+44:30.000 --> 44:39.000
+And I say that I think the last conscious decision, the last decision that you have to make folks that's not.
+
+44:40.000 --> 44:52.000
+That's not that after this, all the other things that the crooks don't require your consent. So I think the last thing they need of you is to sign up for digital ID.
+
+44:52.000 --> 44:56.000
+And it's appearing in certain US states when I was still living in Florida.
+
+44:56.000 --> 45:04.000
+They said it'll be very convenient. You can combine your health records and your driver's license and whatever your Starbucks loyalty card.
+
+45:04.000 --> 45:12.000
+Before you know it, they'll have everything on that. And you'll be required to show it to get gasoline to enter a store or at least to buy anything in the store.
+
+45:12.000 --> 45:24.000
+And then ultimately to enter a mall. It's so easy to search out of that out of that investment. And it's supposedly to treat HIV that I think is fraudulent.
+
+45:25.000 --> 45:33.000
+You know, I'm afraid HIV was made up by the people, including fancy.
+
+45:33.000 --> 45:38.000
+That has made this up. But so that's like an end of anyway.
+
+45:38.000 --> 45:45.000
+So like it's just to be clear, it hasn't been a pandemic. I can't comment on whether or not someone's got something in a test.
+
+45:46.000 --> 45:55.000
+And I'm not willing to make some statement about the entire category of pathogens. I'm not clever enough. So that's where I'll stop.
+
+45:55.000 --> 46:01.000
+But nasty people are coming at us. The evidence for that was very clear very early.
+
+46:01.000 --> 46:10.000
+And I say that I think the last conscious decision, the last decision that you have to make, folks, that's not.
+
+46:10.000 --> 46:17.000
+That's not that after this, all the other things that the crooks don't require your consent.
+
+46:17.000 --> 46:22.000
+So I think the last thing they need of you is to sign up for digital ID.
+
+46:22.000 --> 46:26.000
+And it's appearing in certain US states when I was still living in Florida.
+
+46:26.000 --> 46:34.000
+They said it'll be very convenient. You can combine your health records and your driver's license and whatever your Starbucks loyalty card.
+
+46:34.000 --> 46:39.000
+Before you know it, they'll have everything on that. And you'll be required to show it to get gasoline to enter.
+
+46:39.000 --> 46:45.000
+And just make sure that all the Americans in the audience understand that that ID is a real ID.
+
+46:45.000 --> 46:55.000
+So in Pennsylvania, all your driver's license will be necessarily converted to a real ID driver's license this year or next year.
+
+46:55.000 --> 47:03.000
+And what that means is it'll have a chip in it just like your passport does that has the capability of storing any amount of data.
+
+47:03.000 --> 47:07.000
+I don't know how much, but enough for there to be records on there.
+
+47:07.000 --> 47:14.000
+And so that's already mandatory. And it's been mandatory for years already.
+
+47:14.000 --> 47:19.000
+Florida just happened to already have it in place when the pandemic started.
+
+47:19.000 --> 47:28.000
+So it became very ironic that people were leaving New York to avoid the mandates and converting their driver's license to the real ID of Florida,
+
+47:28.000 --> 47:35.000
+not realizing that they had just taken a step closer to the totalitarian nightmare
+
+47:35.000 --> 47:40.000
+by moving away from New York and converting their driver's license in Florida.
+
+47:40.000 --> 47:47.000
+And that's the whole trick of DeSantis. In case you didn't know, he's totally on board with this too.
+
+47:47.000 --> 47:57.000
+That's why he plays along so well and his script fits so well with everybody else's.
+
+47:57.000 --> 48:03.000
+And sort of store or at least buy anything in the store and then ultimately to enter a mall.
+
+48:03.000 --> 48:10.000
+It's so easy to see. Don't sign up for it. You don't need it. They need you to have it.
+
+48:10.000 --> 48:15.000
+If enough of us refuse and just say, well, thanks very much for the convenience of that.
+
+48:15.000 --> 48:21.000
+I'm going to stick where I am. That will force them to become more aggressive and that will wait more people up.
+
+48:21.000 --> 48:30.000
+So I think the strategy of perpetrators is never to do anything that will activate more than a small percentage of the population at any one time.
+
+48:30.000 --> 48:35.000
+And it's been pretty successful. So please don't sign up for digital ID.
+
+48:35.000 --> 48:39.000
+If they say, oh, you won't be able to do certain things.
+
+48:39.000 --> 48:42.000
+Did you go? Dang it.
+
+48:42.000 --> 48:47.000
+That's not what I wanted to have happen. So I want to go back. Did you catch that? What he said really makes us agree.
+
+48:47.000 --> 48:58.000
+What he said with regard to they're doing things right now not to get too many people riled up at any one time.
+
+48:58.000 --> 49:08.000
+And I think that's a very important thing to understand from the perspective of looking around and watching things happen now and watching how different groups get ignited at different times.
+
+49:08.000 --> 49:16.000
+It's exactly intended to be this way because the ignition of one group is kind of the yin and the yang for another group.
+
+49:16.000 --> 49:22.000
+And so everybody's getting jerked around. It's kind of like getting jerked around by the collar.
+
+49:22.000 --> 49:28.000
+And they're doing that to everyone. And they're forcing parents to do it to their kids.
+
+49:28.000 --> 49:39.000
+And we cannot continue to participate. But as the people in the chat are saying, there's no way realistically without really dropping out.
+
+49:39.000 --> 49:43.000
+You're going to have to at some point make the choice of not flying anymore.
+
+49:43.000 --> 49:56.000
+That's one of the scary things for me and my family is that as the inevitable decline of air travel happens, which it is definitely going to be orchestrated to happen over the next few years.
+
+49:56.000 --> 50:02.000
+We're going to have to make a choice about where we're going to live and then we're going to stay there.
+
+50:02.000 --> 50:08.000
+And we have a very big extended family here and a very big extended family in the Netherlands.
+
+50:08.000 --> 50:16.000
+And my wife has been away from her extended family for a long time. There's a huge temptation to move back.
+
+50:16.000 --> 50:23.000
+And with the flights getting more and more expensive and the air travel becoming more and more painful.
+
+50:23.000 --> 50:31.000
+And soon going to be does already requires digital ID to go international because your passports are all digital ID.
+
+50:31.000 --> 50:35.000
+So don't think that this system isn't already in place.
+
+50:36.000 --> 50:41.000
+Everything's already in place. It's just a question of whether they turn the keys or not.
+
+50:41.000 --> 50:50.000
+And that's part of what what Michael is saying here, but we really don't understand none of you, none of us.
+
+50:50.000 --> 51:01.000
+I don't want to talk down to you because I'm also naive to how far this legislation has taken us already in theory.
+
+51:01.000 --> 51:08.000
+And even if it's not already in place, what is already made possible by existing legislation, I don't think you can underestimate.
+
+51:08.000 --> 51:14.000
+And again, how they played this game between state legislatures and state laws.
+
+51:14.000 --> 51:21.000
+Ladies and gentlemen, we need utmost, utmost vigilance.
+
+51:22.000 --> 51:28.000
+We and our kids and their kids lose it forever.
+
+51:28.000 --> 51:41.000
+And that's why it's so inane that there are people that claim they are trying to help us by talking about HIV inserts that were originally found in the original virus in 2020.
+
+51:42.000 --> 51:49.000
+While not talking about where those inserts are now in Amacron WD-40.
+
+51:51.000 --> 51:56.000
+This is all hands on deck because billions and billions of dollars were at stake.
+
+51:56.000 --> 52:02.000
+This is for trillions of dollars. This is for all the marbles.
+
+52:02.000 --> 52:09.000
+So the more they get you to argue about gain of function and amyloidosis and the LNP's chemistry,
+
+52:10.000 --> 52:15.000
+the more time you waste not organizing, the more time you waste not organizing.
+
+52:16.000 --> 52:22.000
+Which means when they pull the turn the next key, you won't have your community organized.
+
+52:22.000 --> 52:28.000
+When they turn the next key, your parent teacher association will not know your opinion yet.
+
+52:31.000 --> 52:34.000
+And so this is really a call to arms now.
+
+52:34.000 --> 52:37.000
+You really got to start taking action.
+
+52:37.000 --> 52:41.000
+You got to send letters. You got to talk to your friends. You got to be vocal.
+
+52:41.000 --> 52:47.000
+And when you hear this bullshit call it out unapologetically.
+
+52:49.000 --> 52:52.000
+Arm yourself with the biology so that you can.
+
+52:53.000 --> 53:03.000
+And even if there is a clever argument to be made, you don't need to make it because this is about freedom.
+
+53:03.000 --> 53:05.000
+It's about sovereignty.
+
+53:05.000 --> 53:12.000
+And it's about the idea that there are parts of our biology that aren't going to be solved in our kids' lifetimes.
+
+53:13.000 --> 53:18.000
+And all this talk has gotten us nowhere other than...
+
+53:19.000 --> 53:23.000
+Mike Eden is mopping the floor. Steve Kirsch has said nothing!
+
+53:24.000 --> 53:26.000
+The crooks bent the choir consent.
+
+53:27.000 --> 53:32.000
+So I think the last thing they need of you is to sign up for digital ID.
+
+53:32.000 --> 53:36.000
+And it's appearing in certain US states when I was still living in Florida.
+
+53:36.000 --> 53:43.000
+They said they'll be very convenient. You can combine your health records and your driver's license and whatever your Starbucks loyalty card.
+
+53:44.000 --> 53:46.000
+Before you know it, they'll have everything on that.
+
+53:46.000 --> 53:52.000
+And you'll be required to show it to get gasoline, to enter a store, or at least to buy anything in the store.
+
+53:52.000 --> 53:56.000
+And then ultimately to enter a mall. It's so easy to see.
+
+53:56.000 --> 54:01.000
+Don't sign up for it. You don't need it. They need you to have it.
+
+54:02.000 --> 54:09.000
+If enough of us refuse and just say, well, thanks for not for the convenience of that. I'm going to sit where I am.
+
+54:09.000 --> 54:13.000
+That will force them to become more aggressive and that will wait more people up.
+
+54:13.000 --> 54:18.000
+Now, would you agree that his main message at this stage is the digital ID we've got to reject it?
+
+54:18.000 --> 54:21.000
+That's the only way out. That's the main game.
+
+54:21.000 --> 54:24.000
+And that's really his main message. There was no pandemic.
+
+54:24.000 --> 54:29.000
+Protocols were murder. And they're trying to hurt us into the digital ID pen.
+
+54:30.000 --> 54:33.000
+Now, we're about to transition. Steve's about to awaken.
+
+54:33.000 --> 54:36.000
+I don't know if he's going to get a fentanyl injection or what's going to happen.
+
+54:36.000 --> 54:38.000
+But at some point he's going to start talking.
+
+54:38.000 --> 54:44.000
+And I want you to pay attention very clearly to the fact that he points out right away.
+
+54:44.000 --> 54:48.000
+Hey, isn't there a green van outside with some daisies on it?
+
+54:48.000 --> 54:52.000
+Is that a great game? Wow, that looks like Scooby-Doo outside.
+
+54:53.000 --> 55:02.000
+So I think the strategy of the perpetrators is never to do anything that will activate more than a small percentage of the population at any one time.
+
+55:02.000 --> 55:07.000
+And it's been pretty successful. So please don't sign up for digital ID.
+
+55:07.000 --> 55:10.000
+If they say, oh, you won't be able to do certain things.
+
+55:10.000 --> 55:13.000
+And you think, well, I'll sign up so as to avoid those harms.
+
+55:13.000 --> 55:17.000
+I'm telling you, if you sign up for the harms, you're going to get much worse.
+
+55:17.000 --> 55:28.000
+Because then they can tell you, unless your digital ID that you've now voluntarily taken up is valid and up-to-date with your jobs, then you'll still lose validity.
+
+55:28.000 --> 55:31.000
+So you will have to do that anyway.
+
+55:31.000 --> 55:38.000
+And I think that's one of the most likely methods that will be used to kill all some of the people.
+
+55:38.000 --> 55:48.000
+I know from my first few plus years of rational drug design experience, the structure of molecules are not random.
+
+55:48.000 --> 55:57.000
+They are a consequence of intentions in the mind of the designer that are then sort of rendered into a practical thing.
+
+55:57.000 --> 56:01.000
+And so given that's what I did for a living for a long time, I was quite good at it.
+
+56:01.000 --> 56:06.000
+I worked shoulder to shoulder with medicinal chemists and biotechnologists.
+
+56:06.000 --> 56:16.000
+If you examine a kind of medicinal entity written on paper or whatever, you have a way of looking into the mind of the designer.
+
+56:16.000 --> 56:18.000
+What were the signs to accomplish?
+
+56:18.000 --> 56:28.000
+And those injections folks were definitely designed with the intention of causing injury, maiming and killing.
+
+56:28.000 --> 56:31.000
+There's no other purpose for them.
+
+56:31.000 --> 56:40.000
+Even if I believe the narrative about respiratory viruses and injected material designed to produce immunity,
+
+56:40.000 --> 56:51.000
+couldn't possibly work because that's not how humans, human immunity in the respiratory tract does not depend on circulating antibodies.
+
+56:52.000 --> 57:00.000
+Because of decreased antibodies that these injections do not elicit and see cells that they, I'm not sure whether they elicit.
+
+57:00.000 --> 57:04.000
+So they could never have worked. It would not be inappropriate to take them.
+
+57:04.000 --> 57:06.000
+They were definitely rushed.
+
+57:06.000 --> 57:15.000
+They could not possibly be manufactured in the time they said they were manufactured and have been reproducible batch to batch.
+
+57:16.000 --> 57:18.000
+That's absolutely certain, not my opinion.
+
+57:18.000 --> 57:23.000
+That's the opinion of Headley Reese, R-E-E-S, Headley Reese.
+
+57:23.000 --> 57:27.000
+He spent almost 40 years in pharmaceutical production.
+
+57:27.000 --> 57:31.000
+Boom, I mean, are you hearing how devastating this is?
+
+57:31.000 --> 57:33.000
+Steve Kirschkamp, break in.
+
+57:33.000 --> 57:35.000
+He's not nodding.
+
+57:35.000 --> 57:36.000
+He's just sitting there.
+
+57:36.000 --> 57:37.000
+Maybe he's got jet lag.
+
+57:37.000 --> 57:38.000
+I don't know.
+
+57:38.000 --> 57:40.000
+Maybe his audio doesn't work.
+
+57:40.000 --> 57:44.000
+Mike is mopping the floor.
+
+57:44.000 --> 57:48.000
+Every single thing he says is spot on.
+
+57:48.000 --> 57:50.000
+Man, Mike, you are the man.
+
+57:50.000 --> 57:52.000
+Mr. Sparkle.
+
+57:52.000 --> 57:55.000
+We've spoken many times and he knew it was a fake.
+
+57:55.000 --> 57:59.000
+So don't take digital ID for good and sick.
+
+57:59.000 --> 58:02.000
+Don't allow yourself to be jumped by anything that's got.
+
+58:02.000 --> 58:06.000
+Emergency, Fauci, Gates, WHO.
+
+58:06.000 --> 58:08.000
+Even at one remove.
+
+58:08.000 --> 58:10.000
+These people are not good.
+
+58:10.000 --> 58:13.000
+They want to harm you and they've harmed many people.
+
+58:13.000 --> 58:30.000
+And the reason I think they'll make another run this is that the virus story is so compelling that I've said to people like I mentioned Steve, that the epidemiological data is really oddly in contradiction to the narrative.
+
+58:30.000 --> 58:39.000
+And I think if you don't read that, you think, oh, my God, that there wasn't a pandemic or at least not there and then where they said there was.
+
+58:39.000 --> 58:46.000
+But the thing is, despite that analysis and despite me and a few others saying it, nobody cares.
+
+58:46.000 --> 58:50.000
+They're all scared of the bug.
+
+58:50.000 --> 58:53.000
+They're scared of the lab-made bug out of Wuhan.
+
+58:53.000 --> 58:56.000
+They could easily do it again tomorrow.
+
+58:56.000 --> 59:02.000
+And then these gene-based injections, I mean, it's horrifying to realize.
+
+59:02.000 --> 59:04.000
+I mean, that was the Scooby-Doo, right?
+
+59:04.000 --> 59:07.000
+They're all afraid of the lab-based virus.
+
+59:07.000 --> 59:09.000
+That is the Scooby-Doo.
+
+59:09.000 --> 59:15.000
+And to get people to come to that conclusion on their own over years.
+
+59:15.000 --> 59:18.000
+I mean, it's a brilliant plan.
+
+59:18.000 --> 59:22.000
+And it worked like a charm, except we figured it out.
+
+59:22.000 --> 59:24.000
+Now, can we get the message out?
+
+59:24.000 --> 59:39.000
+Or will people like Steve Kirsch stop us by professing the faith even after he gets told for 35 minutes why the faith is bounded in mythology?
+
+59:39.000 --> 59:41.000
+It's extraordinary.
+
+59:41.000 --> 59:42.000
+Watch.
+
+59:42.000 --> 01:00:01.000
+Several months ago, that government's government said we're so pleased with the performance of these new technology vaccines that we've agreed to work with, modern Pfizer, whatever it is, to build a manufacturing plant for mRNA vaccines in every country.
+
+01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:05.000
+And it's like, oh, my God, these things can't be safe.
+
+01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:14.000
+They'd never be safe for a mass market, never, ever, because they prompt your body to make things that are non-human.
+
+01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:25.000
+And if your body is finely tuned, it plays nicely with itself if things that are inside might even are Mike's proteins or inside Steve Kirsch's proteins.
+
+01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:30.000
+But if, for example, we cleaned and expressed a bit of me and Steve or vice versa, our immune system would attack it.
+
+01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:34.000
+That's the same basis of transplant rejection.
+
+01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:49.000
+And so if your body is induced to make a piece of non-human protein, wherever it comes from, from a virus, if it exists, or just from an invention sequence, your body will assume it's either infectious or cancerous.
+
+01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:56.000
+And it will only say lethal attack on every cell that's taken up and expressed that injection.
+
+01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:02.000
+And so, you know, these cannot be saved mass market products.
+
+01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:07.000
+It doesn't matter what they tell you, it doesn't matter what clinical trials they do.
+
+01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:08.000
+Retire.
+
+01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:09.000
+Okay.
+
+01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:10.000
+So let me interrupt.
+
+01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:11.000
+Sorry.
+
+01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:19.000
+Are you saying that all of the people on the CDC outside committee, for example, all of those people are in on the plan?
+
+01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.000
+Oh, come on, Steve.
+
+01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:22.000
+With the plan.
+
+01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.000
+You're such a shit.
+
+01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:28.000
+Okay. So, so, I think they know what they're doing.
+
+01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:31.000
+I think they know what they're doing is wrong.
+
+01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:34.000
+And I don't know anything about what else they know.
+
+01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:36.000
+And you know what?
+
+01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:39.000
+I think a lot of people haven't even realized that.
+
+01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:45.000
+So let me just, if I could just briefly, I'm so well, despite my bush, useful looks.
+
+01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:59.000
+Three of the four senior vice presidents or executive vice presidents that were responsible for these gene based chat programs in J&J, AstraZeneca and Pfizer.
+
+01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.000
+I know them personally.
+
+01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:07.000
+They're either work colleagues, two of them that I work with between, say, five and 15 years.
+
+01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:13.000
+And another one was someone I met professionally and, you know, we stayed in touch for about a decade.
+
+01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:15.000
+So I know this three of the four people.
+
+01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:20.000
+I contacted them in 2021 saying, you know, guys, you know, they're all male.
+
+01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:23.000
+And it's laid out some basic facts.
+
+01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:28.000
+You should, I always thought you were smart and good, you know, good person and smart.
+
+01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:29.000
+And I must be wrong.
+
+01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:32.000
+At least one of these determination, these assessments.
+
+01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:36.000
+Two of them blocked me on social media.
+
+01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:43.000
+And one of them a few months later resigned to Mattie Mammon resigned from J&J without comment.
+
+01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:47.000
+Now, Steve, you understand, defer compensation at that level.
+
+01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:51.000
+I, I, he must have walked away from at least 10 million into third compensation.
+
+01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:55.000
+He didn't announce a new position at the time, although he's moved back into biotech.
+
+01:02:55.000 --> 01:03:01.000
+No one leaves an SVP VP job like that with no comment.
+
+01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:03.000
+They just thanked him for his service.
+
+01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:08.000
+And I, when was the last time I referenced him and he thought, Oh my God, he didn't realize.
+
+01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:14.000
+Oh, when you say nobody has, nobody leaves a VP, a job like that.
+
+01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:16.000
+When was the last time that happened?
+
+01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:18.000
+How do you ever, how do you?
+
+01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:20.000
+When's the last time that happened?
+
+01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:23.000
+So do you see how insightful of an interviewer he is?
+
+01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:25.000
+He actually makes me look pretty good.
+
+01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:30.000
+Because rather than talking about anything that he spoke about in the last 40 minutes
+
+01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:34.000
+and really being like, wow, that's a really amazing summary, Mike.
+
+01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:36.000
+I wasn't there yet.
+
+01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:41.000
+He says how many times have people walked away from a VP job without their golden parachute?
+
+01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:44.000
+You see how he does it?
+
+01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.000
+It's really, it's really extraordinary.
+
+01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:51.000
+He's probably been reading a chat the whole time down here.
+
+01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:56.000
+And somebody's frantically typing about the kind of crap that they need to say.
+
+01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.000
+And there is no response here.
+
+01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:01.000
+Mike, you cleaned house.
+
+01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:04.000
+Nice work, Mr. Sparkle.
+
+01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:07.000
+It's, you know, put it this way.
+
+01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:13.000
+Actually, you probably know, you can't see some salary, but your percentage of bonus,
+
+01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:17.000
+bonus could be 100% salary, sometimes more.
+
+01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:23.000
+And then there'll be, you know, his number is your comment on why he left.
+
+01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.000
+No, no, he didn't.
+
+01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:26.000
+He didn't.
+
+01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:32.000
+So the people on the CDC outside committee who approve these vaccines for people in America,
+
+01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:36.000
+just as a small example, they're not in on it.
+
+01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:39.000
+And why did they approve the vaccines?
+
+01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:45.000
+So, I mean, obviously, I have no idea why they did what they did.
+
+01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:49.000
+But, of course, we don't know.
+
+01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:54.000
+They've been a racket for decades.
+
+01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:59.000
+As your work recently has been, vaccines are a racket.
+
+01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:05.000
+I wouldn't recommend anyone currently, certainly in the current environment,
+
+01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.000
+to accept any vaccine.
+
+01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:08.000
+Not against anything.
+
+01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.000
+I'm not saying none of them are any good.
+
+01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:16.000
+But when you look, as you have found off, do you know the good vaccine?
+
+01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:18.000
+No, I don't.
+
+01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:20.000
+Okay.
+
+01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:22.000
+So I'm saying speaking.
+
+01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:23.000
+I was just checking.
+
+01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:24.000
+No, no.
+
+01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:25.000
+To make sure.
+
+01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:28.000
+Again, I often say my mind is months ahead of my mouth.
+
+01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:35.000
+I mean, I'm pretty bloody sure that they're all neutral to harmful and not useful.
+
+01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:39.000
+And I will never subject myself voluntarily to another one.
+
+01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:43.000
+But in terms of my recommendation, definitely don't take it.
+
+01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:49.000
+How dangerous do you think these gene-based jobs are?
+
+01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:51.000
+Give me the kill rate.
+
+01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:58.000
+If I give you a thousand doses and inject it into a standard population in the U.S.,
+
+01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:03.000
+how many people will I kill?
+
+01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:10.000
+I'll answer the questions one in a thousand, but it will depend on injecting a representative sample population.
+
+01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:13.000
+Yeah, so I see the standard population.
+
+01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:14.000
+Yeah, yeah.
+
+01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:15.000
+Okay.
+
+01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:21.000
+The representative sample injected, but it's harder than that as well.
+
+01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:26.000
+If you will be aware, the lots and lots variability means-
+
+01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:27.000
+No, no.
+
+01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:28.000
+I'm saying on average.
+
+01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:29.000
+Okay.
+
+01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:32.000
+It's just there aren't really any average ones.
+
+01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:34.000
+It's like Russian roulette.
+
+01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:36.000
+There's a chamber with a shell in it.
+
+01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:44.000
+You can't compute an average for any set of criteria.
+
+01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:48.000
+You can compute an average for any set of criteria.
+
+01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:54.000
+Is that Steve Kirsch trying to dunk on Mike Eden?
+
+01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:57.000
+Is that really all he's got?
+
+01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:59.000
+There isn't an average.
+
+01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:05.000
+And I'll tell you why, because we did a show yesterday listening to a guy by the name of Robert Malone.
+
+01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:11.000
+Talk about the variable chemistry of pegulated liposomes.
+
+01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:17.000
+And specifically, we talked about how liposomes aren't really nanoparticles.
+
+01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:26.000
+Because after you shake them up or pass them through a barrier to make them really tiny, they can go...
+
+01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:32.000
+and get right back together again, and become large enough to be toxic.
+
+01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:37.000
+And it is the size of these bubbles, whether or not they were transported correctly.
+
+01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:40.000
+All these things changed the level of toxicity.
+
+01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:49.000
+And if the CVS down the street didn't treat them the same way that the Walgreens did, then even if they're all the same lot, Steve,
+
+01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:55.000
+the actual chemical properties of the liposomes that are in there are pretty variable.
+
+01:07:55.000 --> 01:08:06.000
+So variable, that Robert Malone decided that this was a craft technology to use in animals.
+
+01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:09.000
+Do you not see it, ladies and gentlemen?
+
+01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:14.000
+We are right there at the precipice of this being done for us.
+
+01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:20.000
+All we need to do is wear the armor and start marching.
+
+01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:26.000
+Because the cave opening is right over there. I don't even need my flashlight anymore.
+
+01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:33.000
+The protocols were murder. There is a spectacular commitment to lies happening right now.
+
+01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:38.000
+And everybody who's spectacularly committed was tipped off.
+
+01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:41.000
+I love it.
+
+01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:44.000
+I think it's about one in a thousand.
+
+01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:53.000
+One in a thousand, because that tends to match my number that I've been saying for a couple of years now.
+
+01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:57.000
+Where did you get your one in a thousand number?
+
+01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:00.000
+The same place that you got it.
+
+01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:03.000
+There were three or four other people who were.
+
+01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:08.000
+He got his number from the same place you got it except his comes with experience.
+
+01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:11.000
+And yours comes from where the sun doesn't shine, Steve.
+
+01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:14.000
+You said one in a thousand?
+
+01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:17.000
+That's a pretty crazy guess, Steve.
+
+01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:19.000
+Come on.
+
+01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:21.000
+I mean, can you not see it?
+
+01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:25.000
+Is there any humbleness in the guy in the blue shirt?
+
+01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:28.000
+Is he going to say, wow, Mike, that's the best summary?
+
+01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.000
+No, he's not.
+
+01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:34.000
+That's not what the chat in front of him for the last 40 minutes has been telling him to do.
+
+01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:40.000
+It's been telling him to interrupt him, stop him, ask him about something else.
+
+01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:44.000
+I think it looked like a satellite of over.
+
+01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:46.000
+Yeah, that's right.
+
+01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.000
+Yeah, Dennis, Dennis Rancourt.
+
+01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:55.000
+I must say, when I realized these things were potentially harmful and
+
+01:09:55.000 --> 01:10:02.000
+potentially harmful and actually harmful, unfortunately, they're different things because it's all in the dose.
+
+01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:07.000
+If you take a small enough dose of pretty much anything, it will be harmless.
+
+01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:12.000
+But if you take a large dose of things that we normally think of as benign, it could kill you.
+
+01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:19.000
+A famous example is, believe it or not, people would encourage to drink whilst running marathons.
+
+01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:23.000
+And you might think, obviously, you must drink when you're running marathons.
+
+01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:27.000
+It's like, you actually don't need to drink very much when you're running.
+
+01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:30.000
+I mean, I've run 15,000 miles at least.
+
+01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:35.000
+And when you think the water comes from, it comes out of your skin.
+
+01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:37.000
+It's metabolic water.
+
+01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:41.000
+As you burn and substrate, you produce CO2 and water.
+
+01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:43.000
+And your body's clever.
+
+01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:47.000
+You can go through unbelievable motivations without drinking.
+
+01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:50.000
+So I'm not recommending you run 26 miles without a water.
+
+01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:56.000
+But people who died in marathons, most of them had hypo-nestremia.
+
+01:10:56.000 --> 01:11:00.000
+They deluded to hell, the sodium in their blood and their heart spots.
+
+01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:06.000
+So even water in the kind of constants you can drink whilst running a marathon can kill.
+
+01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:09.000
+So the one in a thousand thing, sir.
+
+01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:11.000
+So did you follow what he said?
+
+01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:15.000
+That when you're running a marathon, you're actually burning glucose?
+
+01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:17.000
+You're burning starches.
+
+01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:20.000
+You're consuming and metabolizing.
+
+01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:24.000
+And in that metabolism, you create water.
+
+01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:27.000
+Metabolic water.
+
+01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:34.000
+And so you don't need to replace as much water as you think during a marathon.
+
+01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:40.000
+If you don't take into account the fact that your body, as it expends energy, makes water.
+
+01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:49.000
+And if you overhydrate during a marathon, you can result in extreme bodily stress.
+
+01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:53.000
+Because again, you've diluted the nutrients of your blood.
+
+01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:56.000
+You've looted your plasma. Too much water.
+
+01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:59.000
+And then your body makes more water.
+
+01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:07.000
+It's brilliant because it's just another example of one of these dumb, simple understandings
+
+01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:14.000
+that we have of our physiology as a result of consuming TV and social media for so long unhindered.
+
+01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:22.000
+All of us, even the smartest of us, the brightest doctors have fallen victim to some of these
+
+01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:26.000
+ridiculous truths based in mythologies.
+
+01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:34.000
+Because there has been a concerted effort to create mythologies that can be used to profit
+
+01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:37.000
+from us, used to control us.
+
+01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:43.000
+And once companies get so big, they cooperate with each other to maintain these mythologies.
+
+01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:50.000
+Once powers, once piles of money get large enough, they cooperate with one another.
+
+01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:55.000
+To maintain these mythologies, to make sure that they can both take advantage of it.
+
+01:12:55.000 --> 01:13:06.000
+Calling someone else's grift out, if it's your grift, doesn't do you much good.
+
+01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:11.000
+I think we're winning, ladies and gentlemen. I think Mike Eden's definitely winning.
+
+01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:15.000
+Some of the lots, I think, were 10 times more lethal.
+
+01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:18.000
+Some were 100 times less lethal.
+
+01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:22.000
+So we can't conclude anything.
+
+01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:26.000
+We can't reliably predict anything about what will happen next time.
+
+01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:29.000
+Because it depends on what they want to do.
+
+01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:34.000
+But just for the rule of thumb, it is one in a thousand so far.
+
+01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:40.000
+That's about a little over 10% of the normal population death rate.
+
+01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:45.000
+What is striking about what's happening now is that the excess deaths are occurring
+
+01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:50.000
+in people who generally would be very unlikely to die.
+
+01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:56.000
+Young women, for example, I was a doctor and they had a manager which was young women don't die.
+
+01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:03.000
+Once they sorted out obstetrics and gynecological related problems, pretty much.
+
+01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:09.000
+Young men, of course, kill themselves with violence and automobiles, motorcycles.
+
+01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:14.000
+But young people generally don't kill everyone dying.
+
+01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:17.000
+Unfortunately, it's a new normal now, Mike.
+
+01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:27.000
+Do you think the increased rate is of young people killing over and dying?
+
+01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:30.000
+What kind of question is this?
+
+01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:32.000
+19 or 2020?
+
+01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:42.000
+I've seen work from actuarial work from insurers that talk about 50% increase in death rate,
+
+01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:45.000
+which is shocking and it sounds shocking.
+
+01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:46.000
+There's a butt, of course.
+
+01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:52.000
+If the death rate is very low and if only two people would have died over the six months
+
+01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:57.000
+period, if you had three deaths, that's 50% increase.
+
+01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:01.000
+Now, obviously it's tragic and the person has been murdered.
+
+01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:03.000
+But it's not the numbers.
+
+01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:06.000
+Two and three, the numbers are quite a bit higher.
+
+01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:13.000
+I was just pointing out that these percentages can be, you know, I just want to put them in contact.
+
+01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:16.000
+So it's a big number. It's a big percentage.
+
+01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:18.000
+It may not be a big number.
+
+01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:22.000
+Whether or not it is, these people didn't deserve to be injured and killed.
+
+01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:24.000
+And that's what's happened to them.
+
+01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:28.000
+These things cannot be safe.
+
+01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.000
+So let me ask you this.
+
+01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.000
+Some mic on the vaccine.
+
+01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:37.000
+If you give somebody the vaccine, the vaccine itself will kill them.
+
+01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:39.000
+Will the vaccine or can kill them?
+
+01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:40.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:46.000
+And the vaccine also can cause them to get COVID and then die from COVID.
+
+01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:48.000
+What do you think the...
+
+01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:50.000
+I don't think COVID exists.
+
+01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:52.000
+I don't think...
+
+01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:55.000
+I think that the COVID exists.
+
+01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:56.000
+Okay.
+
+01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:57.000
+So, okay.
+
+01:15:57.000 --> 01:15:58.000
+No.
+
+01:15:58.000 --> 01:15:59.000
+No.
+
+01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:00.000
+Wait a second.
+
+01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:01.000
+Wait a minute.
+
+01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:02.000
+So you're saying...
+
+01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:06.000
+We won't get into viruses, but are you saying that the COVID virus doesn't exist?
+
+01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:07.000
+No.
+
+01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:09.000
+I don't know if it exists or not.
+
+01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:12.000
+I'm saying it's not circulating.
+
+01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:16.000
+It can exist in a lab if it wants or a computer if it wants.
+
+01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:17.000
+It's not circulating.
+
+01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:19.000
+You mean it's never circulated?
+
+01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:23.000
+Obviously, I can't tell you what I don't know.
+
+01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:30.000
+But from the beginning of 2020, when we were told this pandemic is coming from Wuhan,
+
+01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:36.000
+according to the epidemiological or cause mortality data in the U.S., state by state,
+
+01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:41.000
+Dennis Rancourt and colleagues show there was not an increase in all cause mortality.
+
+01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:51.000
+And in the absence of that, I think that tells us that there was not an additional for public health threat.
+
+01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:57.000
+So I see in the chat that somebody's saying that yes, it is novel and yeet in 2020.
+
+01:16:57.000 --> 01:16:59.000
+Well, I would have been there too.
+
+01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:06.000
+In September of 2020, I was still not at the stage where I understood it like I do now.
+
+01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:10.000
+And so I was thinking there was a novel virus.
+
+01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:19.000
+But our previous immunity to other coronaviruses would be applicable enough so that there was no virus that could pose a pandemic threat.
+
+01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:30.000
+But I was still, and maybe part of me hasn't ruled it out yet, that there is a novel pathogen with limited spreading capabilities
+
+01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:36.000
+or extreme spreading capabilities and very low disease incidents.
+
+01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:38.000
+This works just as well, right?
+
+01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:41.000
+You release it a few years earlier.
+
+01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:43.000
+You make sure that everybody has it.
+
+01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:53.000
+I think one of the things that everybody needs to consider that I haven't really been putting on the table yet because I think it complicates the situation a bit much.
+
+01:17:53.000 --> 01:18:05.000
+But everybody should consider the possibility that a bacteriophage, meaning a virus that infects bacteria, is another possibility.
+
+01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:20.000
+And a bacteriophage that could change the gut biome might be responsible for what Dr. Sabine Sahan has found.
+
+01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:24.000
+And so we don't understand everything yet.
+
+01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:30.000
+We don't have all the biology to explain everything that has been observed.
+
+01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:40.000
+And so I, like Michael Eden, doesn't, I don't think we should feel obliged to answer questions like how many people do you think are being killed by the shot?
+
+01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:43.000
+How many kids are dying now?
+
+01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:47.000
+Or is everyone at the who lying?
+
+01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:53.000
+I mean, these are all questions that from the perspective of there's a crime having been committed.
+
+01:18:53.000 --> 01:19:07.000
+If you call the cops and say a crime is being committed, you don't have to tell the 911 operator who's doing it and what their motivation was, how they got there, and what they planned to do with what they stole.
+
+01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:16.000
+And yet every time somebody makes these statements and shows you the data and says, look, let's be real simple, let's be as parsimonious as possible.
+
+01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:27.000
+A bunch of people were bamboozled into doing some really dumb stuff by other people who knew they could take advantage of this mythology and went for it.
+
+01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:38.000
+And this combination of ignorance and dumb and greed and pre programming set us up for something that I think a lot of people are taking advantage of.
+
+01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:46.000
+They knew the pieces were going to move the way they were and they knew that when the things were loose, that they could push stuff in the way that they needed to.
+
+01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:55.000
+And people are playing games with patent law, they're playing games with intellectual property, and they're playing games with the future of medicine.
+
+01:19:55.000 --> 01:20:07.000
+Behind the scenes, all the while, while we're arguing about variants and amyloidosis and whether or not the LNP is responsible for all the deaths or whether it's the DNA that's in there.
+
+01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:12.000
+That's in there with SB 40.
+
+01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:15.000
+That's the magic of the Scooby-Doo.
+
+01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:30.000
+Not only does it trap you in this illusion that you figured out the mystery, but the real mystery and the real people that need unmasking and the real scam is going on in a completely different direction.
+
+01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:37.000
+Not even in the cave, but outside the cave and a whole law school away.
+
+01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:42.000
+Mike Eden is still mopping the floor with Steve Kirsch.
+
+01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:48.000
+That would kill elderly and frail people, which is what they told us, and that's a lie.
+
+01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:59.000
+Basically, I think most of the deaths of the Kurds in 2020 were murders in hospitals, care homes and the community where medical procedures were changed by dictation.
+
+01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:04.000
+People were paid money to follow the dictats.
+
+01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:07.000
+You know, it's very well in America.
+
+01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:09.000
+It was overt and outrageous.
+
+01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:19.000
+If you've had a COVID-19 or a COVID-19 ventilation or a COVID-19 reservoir and a COVID-19 death, Kirsch in, I think.
+
+01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:23.000
+Explain to me, Mike.
+
+01:21:23.000 --> 01:21:28.000
+My wife and I have a lateral flow assay test.
+
+01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:30.000
+Here we go.
+
+01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.000
+Most people have the...
+
+01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:33.000
+Here we go.
+
+01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:34.000
+These are the quick tests.
+
+01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:35.000
+Watch Mike mop him up.
+
+01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:36.000
+Swab your nose.
+
+01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:38.000
+You swirl it around.
+
+01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:40.000
+You drop tooth.
+
+01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:48.000
+This is really important because this is the kind of conversation that you will have with your family or with your neighbor at a barbecue.
+
+01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:51.000
+Or maybe we have to look forward as far as Thanksgiving.
+
+01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:56.000
+Where people will talk about a lateral flow test and about how I got it, then she got it.
+
+01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:58.000
+What's the answer, Mike?
+
+01:21:58.000 --> 01:21:59.000
+Things.
+
+01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:00.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:04.000
+And then the liquid then flows along a...
+
+01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:06.000
+And then you see the lines.
+
+01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:07.000
+Okay.
+
+01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:09.000
+So it's known as the lateral flow.
+
+01:22:09.000 --> 01:22:10.000
+That's right.
+
+01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:11.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:16.000
+And so my wife got sick with what she thought was COVID.
+
+01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:20.000
+And she took one of these tests and the test was positive.
+
+01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:24.000
+And I didn't think anything of it.
+
+01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:31.000
+I ended up getting sick and I then used the test and the test showed that I was positive.
+
+01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:37.000
+And after I got better and I was checking myself every week to see...
+
+01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:38.000
+Okay.
+
+01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:39.000
+So what's going on?
+
+01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:42.000
+And so the line is getting fainter and fainter.
+
+01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:45.000
+And then it had that it disappeared.
+
+01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:47.000
+It's perfectly consistent, isn't it?
+
+01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:48.000
+Okay.
+
+01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:58.000
+So my question is, if I didn't get COVID, what did I get that is being detected by that lateral flow assay test?
+
+01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:04.000
+Can you expect if I had multiple brands that they would also show the same thing?
+
+01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:05.000
+Maybe.
+
+01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:06.000
+Sure.
+
+01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:07.000
+Tell me...
+
+01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:08.000
+I don't know.
+
+01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:09.000
+I didn't do that.
+
+01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:10.000
+Tell me.
+
+01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:11.000
+Tell me what the...
+
+01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:17.000
+First of all, we should replay it again because what Steve described was not a controlled experiment.
+
+01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:22.000
+Because he did not test himself when his wife was sick.
+
+01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:27.000
+So he doesn't know if he was already positive for it then either.
+
+01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:34.000
+In other words, the whole household could have been positive from the very beginning for whatever that lateral flow test test for.
+
+01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:40.000
+But because he only tested himself when he had symptoms, he's correlating it with the symptoms.
+
+01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:46.000
+I'm going to listen to it again to make sure that I'm right because I think I'm right.
+
+01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:48.000
+Swirl it around.
+
+01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:55.000
+You drop two things and then the liquid that flows along a...
+
+01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:57.000
+And then you see the lines.
+
+01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:58.000
+Okay.
+
+01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:01.000
+So it's known as the lateral flow.
+
+01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:07.000
+And so my wife got sick with what she thought was COVID.
+
+01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:10.000
+And she took one of these tests and the test was positive.
+
+01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:11.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:14.000
+And I didn't think anything of it.
+
+01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:21.000
+I ended up getting sick and I then used the test and the test showed that I was positive.
+
+01:24:21.000 --> 01:24:27.000
+And after I got better and I was checking myself every week to see...
+
+01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:29.000
+Okay, so what's going on?
+
+01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:34.000
+And so the line is getting fainter and fainter and then it disappeared.
+
+01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:37.000
+It's perfectly consistent, isn't it?
+
+01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:38.000
+Okay.
+
+01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:48.000
+So my question is, if I didn't get COVID, what did I get that is being detected by that lateral flow assay test?
+
+01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:54.000
+And I suspect if I had multiple brands that they would also show the same thing.
+
+01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:56.000
+So tell me...
+
+01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:57.000
+I don't know.
+
+01:24:57.000 --> 01:24:58.000
+I didn't do that.
+
+01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:02.000
+Tell me what the most likely scenario...
+
+01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:07.000
+So he suspects if he would have used other tests that he would have seen positive results, but he didn't do it.
+
+01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:08.000
+So he doesn't know.
+
+01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:12.000
+So that was already dumb for him to say, but we're just going to point out that he said it.
+
+01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:13.000
+It is.
+
+01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:14.000
+Yes.
+
+01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:20.000
+Where my wife got symptoms consistent with what is known as COVID.
+
+01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:27.000
+And then days later, I got the same symptoms consistent with COVID.
+
+01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:31.000
+And I used the same test and it showed the same thing.
+
+01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:39.000
+So tell us, please, if this was not COVID, what was it and what is being detected by these tests?
+
+01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:40.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:46.000
+Like I said, what you just outlined is extremely consistent with the narrative.
+
+01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:51.000
+There's a virus going around that you caught successfully, which made you ill.
+
+01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:57.000
+And you can see evidence of it with a test that you were told is at least you don't highly select it.
+
+01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:00.000
+I got that. That's the official explanation.
+
+01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:02.000
+I want to understand.
+
+01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:10.000
+All I'm telling you is that large numbers of people also, like, including me, got ill and had negative test results.
+
+01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:15.000
+Loads of other people were not ill and had positive results.
+
+01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:23.000
+So basically, I'm saying that though you had a coincidental finding symptoms and a positive test,
+
+01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:25.000
+I'm not even sure they're related.
+
+01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:28.000
+So here's the question.
+
+01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:33.000
+I remember these tests were not random.
+
+01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:35.000
+I mean, I took the test.
+
+01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:39.000
+We don't know what it's measuring.
+
+01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:43.000
+You see now that he's lying and I can spool it back, but I don't have to.
+
+01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:47.000
+He said he took the test once a week.
+
+01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:50.000
+Now he's saying he took the test many times.
+
+01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:52.000
+Many times he took the test.
+
+01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:56.000
+No, he said he took it once a week.
+
+01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:57.000
+I can spool it back.
+
+01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:58.000
+You can look at it later.
+
+01:26:58.000 --> 01:26:59.000
+I know he said it.
+
+01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:09.000
+This is the third time I've watched this video because it's so good because it's not a man who is hearing an explanation that he believes.
+
+01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:21.000
+This is a man that is reading a chat in front of him that is encouraging him to go on detours and dead ends and straw man arguments with this man.
+
+01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:32.000
+To try and obfuscate his message, which is that we need to back the truck up.
+
+01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:43.000
+Seriously, the people who made it belong to a group of companies, a segment of society, which are clearly crooked seriously at this point.
+
+01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:50.000
+And so I believe that there is no one will tell us what's in these lateral playlists.
+
+01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:56.000
+We're told that it's an immobilized antibody to some part of the alleged violence.
+
+01:27:56.000 --> 01:27:57.000
+That's what they've told us.
+
+01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:59.000
+I know evidence for it whatsoever.
+
+01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:02.000
+Because it's so important.
+
+01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:03.000
+Anything.
+
+01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:10.000
+So Mike, has anyone then why not expose this?
+
+01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:11.000
+Okay.
+
+01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:14.000
+Because what you can do is you can get.
+
+01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:17.000
+It's the same argument that Kevin McCurnan makes.
+
+01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:22.000
+If it was clones, why don't you find evidence in the jet set database?
+
+01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:27.000
+If these tests were faked, why doesn't somebody prove it?
+
+01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:36.000
+Because there were over 250 tests during the first two years of the pandemic in America and most of those tests and the companies that put them out are out of business.
+
+01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:47.000
+And if they're not out of business, it is a patent nightmare because every one of these lateral flow tests is a multi-patented device.
+
+01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:54.000
+It's got a patent here and a patent there and this part's a patent and that part's a patent and this part's somebody else's patent.
+
+01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:56.000
+You think that this is some kind of joke?
+
+01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:58.000
+You got another thing coming.
+
+01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:21.000
+These emergency use authorized products were potentially the craziest expression of our free for all medical society, pay to play garbage system that we have that's ever been experienced by our country.
+
+01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:28.000
+And these tests and their validation and their use, none of it was controlled.
+
+01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:30.000
+These were all just.
+
+01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:31.000
+Yep.
+
+01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:32.000
+There's the paperwork.
+
+01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:33.000
+Yep.
+
+01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:34.000
+Go ahead and distribute it.
+
+01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:40.000
+They paid people to track and trace during 2020.
+
+01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:50.000
+Do you understand there were thousands of companies around the United States hired people to track and trace people that tested positive for COVID?
+
+01:29:50.000 --> 01:30:00.000
+To make phone calls to go knocking door to door to tell people that, hey, you know, that's the person that you're working with had COVID.
+
+01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:13.000
+Millions of taxpayer dollars were spent buying these tests, distributing these tests, processing these tests, tracking and tracing the results of these tests.
+
+01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:21.000
+Ladies and gentlemen, Steve is now asking what happened if we had positive tests?
+
+01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:27.000
+And Mike's answer is, you know, there were lots of people who got positive tests that had no symptoms.
+
+01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:31.000
+And there were lots of people who had symptoms that got negative tests.
+
+01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:35.000
+And so maybe your wife's test and your test aren't even related.
+
+01:30:35.000 --> 01:30:39.000
+Boom.
+
+01:30:39.000 --> 01:30:46.000
+I wish William Briggs was here to listen to this stuff because this probabilistic crap that Steve Kirsch is pulling is amazing.
+
+01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:51.000
+And Mike Eden is immune because he is Mr. Sparkle.
+
+01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:54.000
+He is disrespectful to dirt.
+
+01:30:54.000 --> 01:31:02.000
+The virus samples from ATCC for the Coronavirus.
+
+01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:16.000
+Okay, I got to go back. I got to go back because what he's proposing right now is that you get samples of the Coronavirus from this ACTT place, which is going to be an infectious clone of a particular variant.
+
+01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:22.000
+And then use it to validate these tests.
+
+01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:28.000
+I'm just breathless. I'm breathless, but I want you to hear him say it because it's so asinine.
+
+01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:33.000
+Society, which are clearly crooked, seriously, at this point.
+
+01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:40.000
+And so I believe that there is no one will tell us what's in these lateral plate tests.
+
+01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:46.000
+We're told that it's an immobilized antibody to some part of the alleged virus.
+
+01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:50.000
+I told this. I've never been through it whatsoever.
+
+01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:52.000
+Okay.
+
+01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:54.000
+Anything.
+
+01:31:54.000 --> 01:32:00.000
+So, so Mike, has anyone then why not expose this? Okay.
+
+01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:08.000
+Because what you can do is you can get the virus samples from ATCC.
+
+01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:12.000
+He's laughing for the Coronavirus for SARS-CoV-2.
+
+01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:14.000
+Did you hear it? You're laughing.
+
+01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:20.000
+And you can go and run a bunch of viruses that you get from ATCC against the lateral flow test.
+
+01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:26.000
+I'm personally completely interested in experiments. Sounds like you're interested.
+
+01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:28.000
+I think you should do that.
+
+01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:30.000
+But why has it somewhere?
+
+01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.000
+If they're lying to us.
+
+01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:34.000
+Sounds like you're interested, Steve.
+
+01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:36.000
+Is there a reason why someone...
+
+01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:37.000
+Oh, man.
+
+01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:38.000
+The why?
+
+01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:41.000
+I would love it to be exposed.
+
+01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:47.000
+But whatever you find, there will be some people who will continue to believe what they believe today.
+
+01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:48.000
+Yeah, I know.
+
+01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:49.000
+I get that.
+
+01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:50.000
+I get that.
+
+01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:51.000
+But at least...
+
+01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:53.000
+It's a wheel spin. It's a wheel spin.
+
+01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:54.000
+Unless you...
+
+01:32:54.000 --> 01:33:03.000
+No, no, no. It's not a wheel spin at all because I'm actually interested in seeing the outcome of that test if someone wants to do it.
+
+01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:05.000
+I agree. I think it'll be...
+
+01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:09.000
+I do think it will be... I think you're agreed. I hope.
+
+01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:11.000
+But what is the conclusion?
+
+01:33:11.000 --> 01:33:20.000
+If you get viral samples from a central source made by clones and you put it on a lateral flow test and you get a positive result, what's the conclusion?
+
+01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:22.000
+That there's no possible...
+
+01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:25.000
+There's no possible false negatives in the background.
+
+01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:31.000
+That there's nothing else on planet Earth that can make that test turn except for those viruses.
+
+01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:38.000
+So if you're testing with the virus and it turns, then what happened with Steve's test proves that it was the virus.
+
+01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:41.000
+That's the fallacy.
+
+01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:46.000
+That antibodies are so perfect that they only bind to one thing.
+
+01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:50.000
+And so if they bind, it has to be that one thing.
+
+01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:52.000
+This is a fallacy.
+
+01:33:52.000 --> 01:34:05.000
+And the idea that Steve thinks you can check that by ordering some clones in the mail and then running them over these lateral flow tests shows you that he's not playing fair.
+
+01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:08.000
+It shows you that he's pushing the faith.
+
+01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:19.000
+It shows you that he's trying to trip Mike up and it shows you that Mike is fools mating him because he hasn't made one forward step yet.
+
+01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:22.000
+Mike is Mr. Sparkle.
+
+01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:27.000
+That would be very important to know what's inside the test.
+
+01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:35.000
+Don't take us red that it's detecting capsid protein from this season with no idea if they're telling us the truth.
+
+01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:36.000
+Seriously?
+
+01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:38.000
+That's why I'm saying it.
+
+01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:42.000
+Why hasn't someone just independently tested it?
+
+01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:59.000
+Because testing it on the virus or a clone of it will not prove that there is not another million things in somebody's saliva, including endogenous proteins that can also result in the test turning positive.
+
+01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:02.000
+Gosh darnit people, are you listening?
+
+01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:04.000
+Antibodies are not magic.
+
+01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:09.000
+They have a very small segment that is specific for the target that they bind.
+
+01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:18.000
+And as easy it is, it should be to imagine that three-dimensional electrostatic shape is not hyper-unique.
+
+01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:27.000
+And that's the reason why the immune system tries really hard not to roll those weapons out for everything.
+
+01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:30.000
+Because they're not perfect.
+
+01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:35.000
+And you gotta know when you're gonna actually use antibodies to make an immune memory.
+
+01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:41.000
+You don't just want to willy-nilly do it.
+
+01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:54.000
+But the use of antibodies to detect things is one of the cardinal intellectual property spaces that has drastically changed as a result of the pandemic.
+
+01:35:54.000 --> 01:36:07.000
+And it's this changing intellectual property space uncovered by Mark Hewson-Tonic Mark Koolag that is gonna be one of the, I think, most interesting stories of 2024.
+
+01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:23.000
+Because what you're gonna find is that most of these people who are entangled in this mess are entangled with it because they understand the value and the use of intellectual property and specifically patents.
+
+01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:33.000
+How patents can be used to extract money, how patents are valuable, and how they can be used to leverage power.
+
+01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:43.000
+Control over entire corporations in theory could be leveraged by patents depending on their value or perceived value.
+
+01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:58.000
+And their perceived value can change in an instant upon one court ruling, one supreme court ruling, or one simple case law decision.
+
+01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:06.000
+Guess who knows a lot about patents besides Mr. Mike Eden, who was saying in the 90s we were running out of patent targets.
+
+01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:10.000
+And then the Human Genome Project gave us a bunch more.
+
+01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:13.000
+Steve Kirschknows about patents too.
+
+01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:15.000
+Against various.
+
+01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:19.000
+I don't think they know I seriously don't think people know what's in the test.
+
+01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:21.000
+I certainly had this conversation.
+
+01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:26.000
+Do you know Jonathan Engler? You're probably aware of it, Claire Craig.
+
+01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:29.000
+We tried to find out what was in them.
+
+01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:34.000
+Early 21, I think, and their companies just simply said, thank you for your inquiry. That's commercial confidential.
+
+01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:49.000
+So, yeah, that's why I'm saying that you have to treat it Mike as a black box and someone that has to go and do the experiments by exposing it to do you not remember Steve that somebody did it with mango or something like that.
+
+01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:57.000
+And it also tested positive is so dumb. Steve is really playing the weakest card.
+
+01:37:57.000 --> 01:38:07.000
+Whoever his handlers are in his chat, you guys are weak. Mike Eden against all. Man, oh man, I need a jersey.
+
+01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:17.000
+To various pathogens and people can basically get a, you know, you can take samples from me and we can do.
+
+01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:22.000
+Sanger sequencing on those samples and compare it to the SARS.
+
+01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:26.000
+Can I just see the comments at this point?
+
+01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:30.000
+And then I could I could then do the same thing.
+
+01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:34.000
+But Mike, I mean, I don't understand why nobody would do this.
+
+01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:37.000
+I'm very happy to do it. I'm personally what's in the test.
+
+01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:38.000
+Hold on.
+
+01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:39.000
+It certainly has this conversation.
+
+01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:43.000
+Do you know Jonathan Engler? You're probably aware of Claire Craig.
+
+01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:46.000
+We tried to find out what was in them.
+
+01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:52.000
+Early 21, I think, and their companies just simply said, thank you for your inquiry. That's commercial confidential.
+
+01:38:52.000 --> 01:39:03.000
+So, yeah, that's why I'm saying that you have to treat it Mike as a black box and someone that has to go and do the experiments by exposing it to various pathogens.
+
+01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:11.000
+And people can basically get a, you know, you can take samples from me and we can do.
+
+01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:17.000
+Sanger sequencing on those samples and compare it to the SARS.
+
+01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:21.000
+Can I just make a comment at this point?
+
+01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:23.000
+What, what does he get a sequence?
+
+01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:27.000
+You can take samples from him and you can send your sequence in them and compare.
+
+01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:30.000
+What is he talking about? That didn't even make any sense.
+
+01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:37.000
+And again, I'll state the testing the lavender flow with viral samples that you get from a central location.
+
+01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:42.000
+Doesn't make any sense either because you're talking about trying to identify the.
+
+01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:46.000
+The specificity.
+
+01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:50.000
+And then I could, I could then do the same thing.
+
+01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:54.000
+Mike, but Mike, I mean, I don't understand why nobody would do this.
+
+01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:58.000
+I'm very happy to do it. I'm personally, I can't with all this.
+
+01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:00.000
+No, I get that.
+
+01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:02.000
+I get that.
+
+01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:08.000
+So, I'm communicating the public and not very interested in the actual flow.
+
+01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:10.000
+But I only need to pay someone to do it.
+
+01:40:10.000 --> 01:40:16.000
+No, no, no, but, but, but the claim is that the, that, that the, that these COVID tests,
+
+01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:21.000
+which everybody gets in the master's distribution uses to say,
+
+01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:24.000
+I think it's really important thing.
+
+01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:25.000
+If the test is wrong.
+
+01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:29.000
+No, that's not Mike's claim.
+
+01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:31.000
+Mike's claim is what he just said.
+
+01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:37.000
+The protocols were mass murder and everybody's committed to lie.
+
+01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:43.000
+Mike's claim is not that the lateral flow tests don't work.
+
+01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:50.000
+Sometimes they do work in that they change color because they buying stuff because the antibodies move from one part to the other.
+
+01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:54.000
+And then the fluorescence changes. Sure, they work.
+
+01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:56.000
+Clocks work.
+
+01:40:56.000 --> 01:41:00.000
+Even a broken clock reads right twice a day.
+
+01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:04.000
+We are talking here about obfuscation.
+
+01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:10.000
+This is essentially Steve Kirsch showing you his colors.
+
+01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:18.000
+Because rather than picking Steve up like Rocky and carrying him off into the sunset,
+
+01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:21.000
+he's trying to knock him down.
+
+01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:25.000
+And he's misrepresenting what Mike just said and repeated several times.
+
+01:41:25.000 --> 01:41:27.000
+I just want to be clear.
+
+01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:30.000
+I don't think there was a pandemic. Nothing ever spread.
+
+01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:36.000
+The protocols were murder and these people are lying.
+
+01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:37.000
+Mr. Sparkle.
+
+01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:42.000
+It could really bring down the narrative. And I'm saying if the test is wrong, it's easy.
+
+01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:44.000
+It seems that it's so easy.
+
+01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:45.000
+Exactly.
+
+01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:47.000
+Well, I agree.
+
+01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:48.000
+It is.
+
+01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:53.000
+And I would say it's almost certainly nonsense that test.
+
+01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:54.000
+Almost certainly.
+
+01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:56.000
+Because here's the thing.
+
+01:41:56.000 --> 01:42:06.000
+How much of any one thing would the be in the sample from your nose compared with all of the other potentially detectable materials?
+
+01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:17.000
+It's going to be, you know, it'll be a tiny fraction of the bulk of biological materials that are being chromatographed by the, as you say, by the few drops through this lateral thing.
+
+01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:22.000
+I've developed myself. This isn't a PCR where I hired people who have done it.
+
+01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:24.000
+I've done these tests.
+
+01:42:24.000 --> 01:42:32.000
+What you would need is something that's exquisitely selective and very, very potent in terms of binding.
+
+01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:34.000
+And where did they get that from?
+
+01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:40.000
+You know, we don't know to get it from a donkey because that's quite common. You might vaccinate a donkey.
+
+01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:47.000
+And then you would have, you know, whatever, donkey, anti-sars, whatever it is.
+
+01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:55.000
+And even then they would get a piece of the alleged patent and they would usually bind it on something else.
+
+01:42:55.000 --> 01:42:58.000
+So there'd be loads of other antibodies as well.
+
+01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:06.000
+It's really, really difficult. It's unlikely for these tests to be knocked out as quickly as they claim to have done it.
+
+01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:11.000
+I mean, that was another giveaway that it sort of like, it pops up after a few months.
+
+01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:14.000
+And I thought, there's no way, there's no way you've done this properly.
+
+01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:19.000
+And now you've manufactured millions, tens of billions, hundreds of millions of tests.
+
+01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:22.000
+It's like, it's all aligned.
+
+01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:28.000
+Do you see what he's saying? You can't make a product that fast. Never mind mass produce it that fast.
+
+01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:33.000
+Never mind validate the biology that fast. Never develop the biology that fast.
+
+01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:40.000
+And they did it with everything. Everything, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:51.000
+Steve is, is befuddled because Mike Eden has finally given us a way to argue that we don't have to fight these silly battles anymore.
+
+01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:55.000
+We really don't. It's wonderful. Mr. Sparkle.
+
+01:43:55.000 --> 01:44:05.000
+Has any lab basically bought all these tests and swab somebody who's...
+
+01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:07.000
+He's still talking about it.
+
+01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:16.000
+Through Sanger sequencing. And then tested that person with five samples of the tests and five swabs.
+
+01:44:16.000 --> 01:44:21.000
+As you can tell, it's something I lost interest in it quite early.
+
+01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:24.000
+I'm not asking whether you've done it.
+
+01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:27.000
+No, no. I don't know if anyone's done it.
+
+01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:33.000
+You must hear that I'm, you know, basically it's a detail by the side of the road.
+
+01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:37.000
+And the idea, it would be lovely if we could show something.
+
+01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:42.000
+It's a detail beside the road. It is really like the caves back there.
+
+01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:46.000
+We have the flashlight in front. Everybody's been following us.
+
+01:44:46.000 --> 01:44:53.000
+We went down all the dead ends already in 2020 and 2021 with Mike Eden.
+
+01:44:53.000 --> 01:45:01.000
+In fact, I consider Mike Eden the only one that I've been following in this cave exploration trying to get out.
+
+01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:05.000
+And now I think we know where the door is. And I think Mike is leading us there.
+
+01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:13.000
+I'm following Mike and Steve is trying to get us to look back because there's a bunch of stalagtites back there.
+
+01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:16.000
+And some of them have quartz on them and they're really shiny.
+
+01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:21.000
+I mean, we should go back and take a look at those. Did you make a picture with those yet?
+
+01:45:23.000 --> 01:45:27.000
+The cave door is right over there. You can hear the crickets.
+
+01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:34.000
+Mike is leading us right out right now. And Steve wants us to look back at stalagtites and stalagmites.
+
+01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:44.000
+We can't reach enough to people in a single level to bring down anything.
+
+01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:52.000
+That's why it's a game of attrition, really. And that's why I think it's more at least the service I can be to the world.
+
+01:45:53.000 --> 01:46:00.000
+So it's focused on the things I'm very sure about. And I've said, I said to you earlier, I don't want to fight people about this.
+
+01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:09.000
+So let's talk about the bigger issue. Do you think that so you believe that this is all planned that people that the people in charge, whoever they are?
+
+01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:14.000
+Do you know who the people in charge are? Is Bill Gates like one of the people in charge?
+
+01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:15.000
+Yeah, I'm sure he does.
+
+01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:17.000
+Does he take orders from someone else?
+
+01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:26.000
+I would imagine. I mean, remember, until the spring of 2020, Steve, I believed everything pretty much everything the government told us.
+
+01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:32.000
+I believe national broadcaster. I read the daily paper. What a sap. But I used to believe.
+
+01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:40.000
+What a sap. We were all saps back then. Oh, my gosh, I was the biggest sap. I actually listened to NPR.
+
+01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:50.000
+I listened to NPR all the time before the pandemic started. I mean, I'm why do you think I like to watch PBS NewsHour?
+
+01:46:50.000 --> 01:47:05.000
+Because PBS NewsHour went off into another galaxy in months. I mean, I couldn't believe it. I love Mike Eden.
+
+01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:11.000
+I used to believe broadly that what I was being told with a little bit of spin was probably right.
+
+01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:15.000
+And I've now come to the conclusion that almost everything they tell us is untrue.
+
+01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:20.000
+And certainly everything about this so-called pandemic is a bloody lie. Everything.
+
+01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:32.000
+So I'm not going to try to accommodate them. It's a sign up. Although I know you're sincere and I've definitely spoken to several people who have this experience.
+
+01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:47.000
+And so they can't have astonished. I don't agree with them. And the only reason I don't is the epidemiological evidence shows there was not an increased cause of death.
+
+01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:55.000
+So what about the scene in the U.S., CNN is showing all these hospitals.
+
+01:47:55.000 --> 01:48:05.000
+Showing overflight, claiming that they're overflowing in emergency rooms and people sick in the hospital.
+
+01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:10.000
+The hospitals are overwhelmed with people sick with COVID. True or false?
+
+01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:18.000
+So what they did is they found the one hospital in America. Do you think it was all made up?
+
+01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:22.000
+In terms of an overflight. There were a few hospitals. Are you kidding?
+
+01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:27.000
+CNN says, hey, these hospitals are overflowing and they go and they go back and find the report. Show it.
+
+01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:34.000
+Actually constructing a hospital and doing it like- Like Matt shows something.
+
+01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:45.000
+Well, or not not the match. But I'm thinking of the great, what was the- CNN, they use green screens.
+
+01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:54.000
+Is it like the scene where they set the whole thing up and-
+
+01:48:54.000 --> 01:49:02.000
+I think it's worth saying that. I didn't know this in 2020, but I learned it shortly thereafter.
+
+01:49:02.000 --> 01:49:12.000
+Do you know what the most potent stimulus for increased illness in loss of health status in human beings,
+
+01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:15.000
+other than actually giving them something that will make them ill?
+
+01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:26.000
+But if you weren't able to give them something that would make them ill, do you know what is the proven best way of making them much more likely to become ill?
+
+01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:32.000
+It's to frighten them. Chronic fear kills.
+
+01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:35.000
+Some social isolation also kills.
+
+01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:40.000
+You put them in a position where they're highly stressed, frightened, anxious.
+
+01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:44.000
+They don't have a place to hide, you know, where they need to be hyped.
+
+01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:51.000
+Or they don't have an opportunity to socialize and suddenly literally just die and humans are just the same.
+
+01:49:51.000 --> 01:50:02.000
+So I think we suffered from all normal illnesses amplified by a deliberate policy of high propagandized fear.
+
+01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:04.000
+I like that a lot.
+
+01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:05.000
+I like that a lot.
+
+01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:16.000
+I know there is a Sanger sequencing that is done and the genomic sequences match SARS-CoV-2.
+
+01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:23.000
+So you're not denying that there's a virus out there and that people get it, right?
+
+01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:31.000
+I think it's certainly possible that there's something that moves from person to person that definitely isn't something that causes mass illness and death, Steve.
+
+01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:36.000
+Unless you haven't read the paper or you have a reason to disagree with it.
+
+01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:42.000
+I think you have to, on the one hand, in addition to what you're saying, you have to accept,
+
+01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:45.000
+there was not an increase in all causes and substances.
+
+01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:47.000
+So I'm not looking for a pathogen.
+
+01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:50.000
+There wasn't a pattern of death.
+
+01:50:50.000 --> 01:51:00.000
+And the whole thing, like I said, 25 years of preparing for pandemics, which I think actually can't happen.
+
+01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:03.000
+See, the thing is, is you do very simple math.
+
+01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:05.000
+Just do very simple math.
+
+01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:06.000
+Round the numbers off.
+
+01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:09.000
+300 million people, sorry.
+
+01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:13.000
+350 million people in America, 320, I don't know, whatever it is.
+
+01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:20.000
+We have one every year we have between 2.8 and 3 million people die.
+
+01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:21.000
+Every year.
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+01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:27.000
+That's the expected number of people to die and it goes up and down a little bit with the seasons.
+
+01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:36.000
+And if a million people in America were killed by COVID and they were extra deaths, over one year,
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+01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:42.000
+that would be a 25% increase from 3 million people to 4 million people dying in that year,
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+01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:46.000
+a 25% increase in all cause mortality.
+
+01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:54.000
+So if there was a novel, deadly, gain a function virus that spread like wildfire through a novel,
+
+01:51:54.000 --> 01:52:03.000
+sorry, through a vulnerable population whose age didn't matter or mattered a little bit.
+
+01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:08.000
+You would still have seen it in the all cause mortality and you don't.
+
+01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:11.000
+You don't see it anywhere.
+
+01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:15.000
+And when you do see it, you don't see signs of spread.
+
+01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:23.000
+You see point functions of protocols being applied and then not applied anymore.
+
+01:52:23.000 --> 01:52:28.000
+Do not resuscitate orders applied and then not applied anymore.
+
+01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:36.000
+Ventilation protocols applied and then not applied anymore.
+
+01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:40.000
+I don't know if I'm going to let it run now that this Sanchez guy has come in just because the talk,
+
+01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:43.000
+the discussion gets a little weaker now.
+
+01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:47.000
+You can tell that Steve is very frustrated because he can't get Mike off of message.
+
+01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:52.000
+I'll just let it go a little while longer, but I might go to bed soon, just warning you.
+
+01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:56.000
+I think they're all, they're all fake.
+
+01:52:56.000 --> 01:52:57.000
+Why would they?
+
+01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:01.000
+And then also, even from wrong about that, did you look at any of them?
+
+01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:05.000
+Did you watch even like 15 or 20 minutes of any of these tabletop simulations,
+
+01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:11.000
+the so-called Atlantic storm and lock step and whatever,
+
+01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:13.000
+critters and contagion, all these things.
+
+01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:20.000
+Basically, pretty quickly Steve, the objective was to lock people down, to control them,
+
+01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:23.000
+to control the narrative and get an needle in their arms.
+
+01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:25.000
+They were never interested in helping them.
+
+01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:31.000
+I wanted to step in and go back a second to the conversation about the hospitals.
+
+01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:38.000
+I was living in Fairfield County, Connecticut at the time when COVID hit and at the time,
+
+01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:44.000
+my region had the largest COVID cases in the state.
+
+01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:51.000
+And at the hospital, quite regularly in February and March because my son was in the hospital
+
+01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:53.000
+and it was packed most of the time.
+
+01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:56.000
+This is before COVID, the emergency room was packed.
+
+01:53:56.000 --> 01:53:59.000
+It was just, it was a busy hospital.
+
+01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:03.000
+Before COVID, before COVID, COVID hits, lockdowns hit.
+
+01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:09.000
+I saw the reports on the local news about how we had the highest number of cases
+
+01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:13.000
+and stay away from the hospitals unless you're really sick.
+
+01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:17.000
+I remember being in the emergency room right at the beginning of COVID before the lockdowns
+
+01:54:17.000 --> 01:54:20.000
+and people were coming in to the emergency room going,
+
+01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:24.000
+I think I have COVID and the receptionists were saying,
+
+01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:26.000
+now you don't go back home.
+
+01:54:26.000 --> 01:54:27.000
+You're fine.
+
+01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:32.000
+They were literally sending them away because they had people with real emergencies in the emergency room
+
+01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:33.000
+and they were busy.
+
+01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:39.000
+But I decided to take a drive when I saw how the COVID was spreading in my region
+
+01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:41.000
+and how busy the hospital was.
+
+01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:43.000
+And I do have a video of this somewhere.
+
+01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:46.000
+I've got to find it in my archives because I shot footage from my car
+
+01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:50.000
+and I drove to the hospital and it looked like it was closed.
+
+01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:54.000
+Literally there were three or four ambulances in front of the emergency room.
+
+01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:56.000
+There were a couple of guys standing out there.
+
+01:54:56.000 --> 01:55:00.000
+There was a journey, they're empty out, almost for display.
+
+01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:07.000
+And there was, it looked to me as if the hospital was closed.
+
+01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:13.000
+But the news was telling us it was overflowing with patients and bodies.
+
+01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:17.000
+So I just wanted to step into the conversation and share that anecdote.
+
+01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:24.000
+Two things to add, I didn't do this, but people I know did do exactly what Livia said
+
+01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:27.000
+in the corner of Kent where I live.
+
+01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:34.000
+And they said that the emergency room is often full to overwhelm in the winter.
+
+01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:37.000
+In other words, we've got inadequate capacity.
+
+01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:40.000
+And they've deliberately taken, well deliberately, I don't know, the motive.
+
+01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:47.000
+They've reduced the number of inpatient beds and ventilated beds, just quite a lot over the year.
+
+01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:55.000
+And after the COVID, after the pandemic was declared, the number of admissions for symptoms
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+01:55:55.000 --> 01:56:00.000
+that predominated with respiratory as the main reason fell like a stone.
+
+01:56:00.000 --> 01:56:03.000
+It's like they're almost half, they're almost half.
+
+01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:08.000
+So whatever they were being admitted with, whether or not they're the positive quotes,
+
+01:56:08.000 --> 01:56:11.000
+PC artists, they weren't, they didn't have a respiratory illness.
+
+01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:13.000
+That wasn't what was happening.
+
+01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:17.000
+And also the, in Britain, they were telling us that they're desperately short.
+
+01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:21.000
+See, the problem with this that I see is that if there's no respiratory illness,
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+01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:26.000
+but they're coming in for COVID, it makes me think that the virus is not necessarily
+
+01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:29.000
+communicating in the lungs, but replicating in the gut.
+
+01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:32.000
+And now you might say, well, wait, why, what?
+
+01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:35.000
+They have to have it in their nose if they're testing positive.
+
+01:56:35.000 --> 01:56:40.000
+They have to have it in their saliva if they're testing positive.
+
+01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:46.000
+And I'm interested to see how many of these would have been.
+
+01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:48.000
+Nasal swabs.
+
+01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:52.000
+Don't forget that when you cough, you cough.
+
+01:56:52.000 --> 01:56:54.000
+It goes up into your nose.
+
+01:56:54.000 --> 01:56:59.000
+So if there was something that was growing in, yeah, I don't know.
+
+01:56:59.000 --> 01:57:04.000
+I'm just trying to think about the flora in your mouth and whether a bacteria can work in there.
+
+01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:09.000
+One of the reasons why I'm saying that is very anecdotal, but I went into the pandemic
+
+01:57:09.000 --> 01:57:14.000
+being a 50 year old guy with no cavities.
+
+01:57:14.000 --> 01:57:21.000
+And at some point during the pandemic, all of my mouth flora went out the window.
+
+01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:26.000
+And I now have two cavities I'm pretty sure that I haven't had filled yet because we just got insurance
+
+01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:32.000
+two months ago after two years of not having insurance thanks pandemic.
+
+01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:42.000
+But I didn't change my tooth brushing or my toothbrush or my habits that got me 50 years of no cavities.
+
+01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:49.000
+But something happened in my mouth flora where now I can get cavities apparently.
+
+01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:57.000
+And I don't know when it changed, but it definitely changed very rapidly because these cavities were not there before.
+
+01:57:57.000 --> 01:58:05.000
+I've got an x-ray where my teeth are like laughable and they've invited other doctors in or other dentists in to say,
+
+01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:10.000
+look at this guy's mouth, he's 51 years old.
+
+01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:13.000
+And that's not the case anymore, I know.
+
+01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:19.000
+So I'm very skeptical that we understand the biology as yet.
+
+01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:22.000
+And Mike is very skeptical that we understand the biology yet.
+
+01:58:22.000 --> 01:58:30.000
+Steve is really sure that there was a novel virus that tests work, it was a calamity, we had to shut down.
+
+01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:35.000
+A lot of these products must work, including the mRNA, has some value, doesn't it?
+
+01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:39.000
+Maybe it's the LNP, but sure it was a gain of function virus.
+
+01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:45.000
+Definitely coming back, saying or sequencing matches.
+
+01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:47.000
+A lot of intensive care beds.
+
+01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:56.000
+I personally know the person who used to manage for NHS England, it's about 90% of the UK population.
+
+01:58:56.000 --> 01:59:04.000
+When I say manage, he ran the database of which beds have got what person in them and when did they arrive and so on.
+
+01:59:04.000 --> 01:59:10.000
+And he showed me that in the summer of 2020 and he said, I've never.
+
+01:59:10.000 --> 01:59:13.000
+I got to type this in there, I'm just going to say it.
+
+01:59:13.000 --> 01:59:18.000
+So somebody says hypoxiaptide toothpaste repairs cavities, here's the irony.
+
+01:59:18.000 --> 01:59:26.000
+I started using this toothpaste that was these little knobs that you chew them up and then you brush your teeth with them.
+
+01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:29.000
+And the guy who I heard those from was Brent Weinstein.
+
+01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:31.000
+And they actually did.
+
+01:59:31.000 --> 01:59:35.000
+Well, I had toothpaste and the toothpaste is now gone and I use this toothpaste.
+
+01:59:35.000 --> 01:59:40.000
+So I don't know if that meant my cavities are healed, but.
+
+01:59:40.000 --> 01:59:43.000
+Brett Weinstein.
+
+01:59:43.000 --> 01:59:45.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:59:45.000 --> 01:59:51.000
+I've seen the intensive care facility so, so empty.
+
+01:59:51.000 --> 01:59:57.000
+And the part of the reason for that was I don't think it was pandemic and people were advised not to come to hospital.
+
+01:59:57.000 --> 02:00:04.000
+And then the major thing that happened is because of the pandemic, elective surgery almost stopped.
+
+02:00:04.000 --> 02:00:10.000
+So in the summer, they would do bypass surgeries, varicose veins and even more invasive.
+
+02:00:10.000 --> 02:00:15.000
+None of this made it into the BBC, for example.
+
+02:00:15.000 --> 02:00:16.000
+Sorry.
+
+02:00:16.000 --> 02:00:22.000
+How come none of this none of these empty ICUs made it on the BBC?
+
+02:00:22.000 --> 02:00:24.000
+Oh, Steve.
+
+02:00:24.000 --> 02:00:27.000
+OK, I'm probably going to come across as a conspiracy theorist.
+
+02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:30.000
+But as I say to people, the bloody well is a conspiracy.
+
+02:00:30.000 --> 02:00:32.000
+There's nothing theoretical about it.
+
+02:00:32.000 --> 02:00:40.000
+A small number of corporate sort of small number of big companies own almost all of the mass media in the world.
+
+02:00:40.000 --> 02:00:42.000
+I think it's like less than 10.
+
+02:00:42.000 --> 02:00:45.000
+And I think those 10 are in on it.
+
+02:00:45.000 --> 02:00:51.000
+They're probably through the world economic forum. They probably have the sidebar and then made it a policy.
+
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+It's like you're going to basically there'll be a line to take. That's always been true.
+
+02:00:56.000 --> 02:00:59.000
+The media follows lines to take.
+
+02:00:59.000 --> 02:01:02.000
+And basically lines not to take.
+
+02:01:02.000 --> 02:01:04.000
+So, so do you.
+
+02:01:04.000 --> 02:01:05.000
+I think it's all line.
+
+02:01:05.000 --> 02:01:10.000
+Is there media that you consider reliable, like that?
+
+02:01:10.000 --> 02:01:11.000
+Times, for example.
+
+02:01:11.000 --> 02:01:13.000
+No, no, no.
+
+02:01:13.000 --> 02:01:17.000
+No, no, no media.
+
+02:01:17.000 --> 02:01:19.000
+He said epic times.
+
+02:01:19.000 --> 02:01:21.000
+He said epic times.
+
+02:01:21.000 --> 02:01:25.000
+Steve Kirsch said epic times.
+
+02:01:25.000 --> 02:01:27.000
+Oh, I see.
+
+02:01:27.000 --> 02:01:35.000
+I would say I would recommend a UK column, capital U, capital K space column.
+
+02:01:35.000 --> 02:01:36.000
+UK column.
+
+02:01:36.000 --> 02:01:39.000
+It's run by a couple of good people.
+
+02:01:39.000 --> 02:01:44.000
+And they saw UK column is covered gigo and biological like a whole show.
+
+02:01:44.000 --> 02:01:45.000
+I'm not kidding.
+
+02:01:45.000 --> 02:01:48.000
+It's a big column is cool. That's awesome.
+
+02:01:48.000 --> 02:01:49.000
+They are.
+
+02:01:49.000 --> 02:01:52.000
+I think at least one of them is one or maybe two.
+
+02:01:52.000 --> 02:01:58.000
+Yeah, two of them are professional journalists and one is a former British service man who realized that things were not well.
+
+02:01:58.000 --> 02:02:01.000
+And they were running UK column before COVID.
+
+02:02:01.000 --> 02:02:05.000
+And so they've got a wider span.
+
+02:02:05.000 --> 02:02:06.000
+Yeah.
+
+02:02:06.000 --> 02:02:10.000
+And I think they're doing their earnest best, but I'm afraid all other.
+
+02:02:10.000 --> 02:02:15.000
+I think all main media, whether it's TV, radio or prints.
+
+02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:21.000
+I think there's virtually no independence of editorial.
+
+02:02:21.000 --> 02:02:22.000
+I don't know.
+
+02:02:22.000 --> 02:02:25.000
+Again, I don't know whether a couple of phone calls were made in Britain.
+
+02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:27.000
+It would be a dream care for a gentleman's club.
+
+02:02:27.000 --> 02:02:38.000
+I would say, yeah, for you want to make sure that BBC BBC one BBC channel four are both actually part fully apart government owns.
+
+02:02:38.000 --> 02:02:43.000
+So one phone call and then ITV independent television.
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+You know, I think it's a floated thing, but they'll probably have cross holdings in terms of board membership.
+
+02:02:50.000 --> 02:02:51.000
+It's not.
+
+02:02:51.000 --> 02:02:52.000
+It's not difficult.
+
+02:02:52.000 --> 02:03:00.000
+It's also, I think, I think the media Steve have been very controlled probably all of my life and probably before that.
+
+02:03:00.000 --> 02:03:02.000
+I think it's time for bed.
+
+02:03:02.000 --> 02:03:07.000
+There is no reason why.
+
+02:03:07.000 --> 02:03:10.000
+You can't find that video for yourself.
+
+02:03:10.000 --> 02:03:19.000
+Just look on YouTube for the VSRF and look up my key.
+
+02:03:19.000 --> 02:03:22.000
+It's like one of their recent videos.
+
+02:03:22.000 --> 02:03:25.000
+I don't want to stay up too late. It's been two hours.
+
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+I hope you enjoyed it.
+
+02:03:27.000 --> 02:03:31.000
+I hope you'll take the time to share the original video and share this one.
+
+02:03:31.000 --> 02:03:34.000
+I'm going to be on again tomorrow and Sunday.
+
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+I don't know when yet.
+
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+But I'm going to try and make more of a habit of this without making any promises.
+
+02:03:40.000 --> 02:03:45.000
+Just look out for more streams because we're not stopping anymore.
+
+02:03:45.000 --> 02:03:47.000
+We're going all the way.
+
+02:03:47.000 --> 02:03:50.000
+Do not forget, please.
+
+02:03:50.000 --> 02:03:55.000
+They've lied to you about this stuff in order to steal your kids' freedom.
+
+02:03:55.000 --> 02:04:01.000
+And the way that they've done it is that they told us this crazy story about a novel virus.
+
+02:04:01.000 --> 02:04:09.000
+And now all the people involved are not talking about the PCR fraud or the masking fraud or the lockdown fraud
+
+02:04:09.000 --> 02:04:11.000
+or the protocols being murdered.
+
+02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:14.000
+Steve Kirsch couldn't talk about it.
+
+02:04:14.000 --> 02:04:16.000
+That's all you need to know.
+
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+Ladies and gentlemen, this is where we are.
+
+02:04:20.000 --> 02:04:23.000
+Let's walk out of the cave together.
+
+02:04:23.000 --> 02:04:25.000
+Thanks for joining me.
+
+02:04:31.000 --> 02:04:34.000
+Thanks for joining me.
+
+02:05:01.000 --> 02:05:04.000
+Good night, everybody.
+
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+It's the 13th of September, 2023.
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+And this is Gico-en-biological.
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+I think we've come to understand the Scooby-Doo has nothing more than a spectrum of acceptable opinion
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+We've made a lot more progress behind the scenes than you can possibly imagine.
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+And it is with great optimism that I come to you with a second Mr. Sparkle Show.
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+I don't think it's necessary to belabor the point too long, so I'm just going to give you a very brief introduction
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+This is only a couple days ago, actually, that this occurred.
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+And so it's actually fresh a day after a day or so after he was on with Steve Kirsch,
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+so it's actually kind of relevant to hear an interview afterward.
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+And whether or not that interviewer or interviewers give Michael the same amount of open mic
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+and how Michael was able to deal with it.
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+So I'm curious because it's now two on one in this interview.
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+So they've changed the way we think, said this many times.
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+They've changed the way we think about the biology that underpins a phenomenon like a pandemic.
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+And they've taken advantage of many, many years of being told a very simple narrative about how our immune system works
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+and what signs in our blood are indication of immunity.
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+And with regards to the pandemic, this allowed them to change human behavior on a massive scale.
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+They essentially fooled entire societies into behaving differently than they ever had before to sick people.
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+And even worse, they behave differently with people who are healthy.
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+And so we're trying to figure this out.
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+We're trying to figure out what people were really responsible for seeding the narrative because that's what this was all about.
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+This was about getting a cruise ship moving in a certain direction with enough momentum so that it couldn't be stopped.
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+And so this is decades and decades of preparation.
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+Lots of secret meetings, lots of practice sessions, lots of conferences where they're rehearsing this stuff.
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+Because the idea, again, is to have the cruise ship set up and moving in the right direction so that when this happened, you can accelerate it and it would have almost momentum that couldn't be stopped.
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+And I would suggest that a lot of the people that I have colored in here in yellow are actually people who may have been in on it from the very beginning.
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+And I think that's really how far our governance structure has come.
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+And I think that people like Robert Malone are being very disingenuous when they talk about fifth generation warfare and this kind of thing.
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+Because Noam Chomsky told us this years and years ago that by controlling the debate, you could think of it better as controlling all sides of a debate and then having a very vigorous or giving the appearance of a very vigorous debate.
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+Three people at a table.
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+This is essentially what they do on the view and on the PBS NewsHour and on Tim Poole and on Joe Rogan.
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+It's like two or three people talking about something and so you feel like the third or the fourth or the fifth person in the room.
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+And so if they really want to get you, they put four people in the room and they all agree all the time with a real weak form of disagreement and discussion.
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+Maybe they even get you in a position where one person is antithetical to the other three and then the other three trounce them.
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+Make them really look like a fool.
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+So that's the kind of sort of show that we have been unwittingly controlled by for, you know, a very, very long time longer than me or anyone my parents have been aware of.
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+I guess there are some people who have been saying it's going on, but the extent to which it has become essentially the rule instead of the, you know, occasionally or a few places or whatever, a few people are controlled, a few voices are controlled.
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+The whole system is now run this way.
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+So much so that in 2023, I think you can safely say that most of the people who have risen to prominence in the dissident movement or in the good guy side or on the Fauci side, they've all risen to prominence in exactly the same way by exactly the same mechanisms.
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+Many of these people were kind of censored in a very public and notable way and their return from censorship or their alternative to censorship was something that was promoted and seen in public.
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+They weren't really banned.
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+They weren't really canceled.
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+When Robert Malone was canceled on LinkedIn, he was able to spread that word all over Facebook and Twitter and everywhere else.
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+And then when he got banned on Twitter, he was able to get a whole bunch of people to move to GAB because, because Brett Weinstein helped him by moving over there.
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+And so you can see that in retrospect, we've got to be very careful how we look at our history and how we look at what we've done because again, these people have been wittingly and unwittingly playing a role in what I would now consider to be an elaborate theater, which was designed to get whole
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+societies to come to the conclusion that China and America collaborated on gain-of-function viruses and somehow some way this collaboration was going on in China and we're not sure if China did it on their own or if America tricked them into doing it, but the virus that got out got out from China because that's where the labs were.
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+And three years later, the United States seems to have covered it up and China probably just lied about how many people have died.
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+And most of the world thinks that.
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+Think about how amazing that is.
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+Most of the world actually believes that they themselves figured it out.
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+And that's what Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan and the Weinstein's and Tim Poole, they're all acting out the same revelation over the last three years.
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+Some of them figured it out at different times. Some of them have never known, but they're all figuring it out.
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+And it's really neat because none of them have ever ever considered the possibility that their government is lying to them about this is that none of them are smart enough to have that is also an alternative.
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+And also the possibility that they're lying about this.
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+None of them, none of them on this screen have ever thought the intellectual dark web has ever thought it even possible.
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+It's not even on their radar that people are lying.
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+Is that even make any sense that Robert Malone and Steve Kersch and Brett Weinstein went on a podcast in June of 2021.
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+And for three hours, not one of them suggested that maybe some people or a lot of people might be lying.
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+That's extraordinary.
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+Because the main message of Giga on biological is is that all a pandemic requires is a spectacular commitment to lying.
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+He got a lie about pandemic potential and caves.
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+He got to publish a few papers about the pandemic potential that can be accessed through cell culture.
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+You should publish a couple more papers about maybe the ability to use animal passage to enrich for an aerosolized flu.
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+And then you can make a few papers where you use recombinant DNA methodologies to stitch a few pieces of different genomes together
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+and test them in vitro and show that they can neutralize different things or they're not neutralizable anymore.
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+They bind to this cell type or they make extra zones in that cell type and then call it pandemic potential.
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+And why would you do that?
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+Well, you would do that because this lays down a mythology of a natural and human generated gain of function potential for viral pandemics
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+that has infinite possibility for future consequences.
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+And since it's becoming easier and easier for people to do this into their garages,
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+the only reasonable solution is for us to go to a digital ID on the Internet
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+and for us to have a digital form of currency.
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+Hey, Howard.
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+Remember last night we talked about how the illusion of consensus even includes this idea that we are solving the mystery.
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+And by having different people on the Internet and different people on the television seeming to or maybe really in their own mind
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+figuring out the Scooby-Doo of the who did it, of the virus and the fact that, wow, we really were making this stuff.
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+And we really did ship this stuff over to China because Obama banned it.
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+Wow, that's crazy.
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+And so as the story goes, we start to laugh all at the same time.
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+And we start to go, oh, all at the same time.
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+As everybody mentions the diffuse proposal, everybody goes, oh, yeah, that's right.
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+I know about that. That was leaked to drastic.
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+And so when you have thousands of dollars in that store and this just when you have a sitcom.
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+With the generated consensus in the background, it starts to become pretty funny.
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+The reason why it becomes funny is because your brain works that way.
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+It's social.
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+And so those multiple people laughing actually has a real magic effect on your brain.
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+It creates a propensity for you to find something funny.
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+So if there's a hint of humor here, you're going to be triggered.
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+It was used on Seinfeld. It was used for decades, really, of television.
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+Sometimes it was a real live audience that was augmented by recorded laughs just to make sure the timing was good.
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+And that there was sufficient laughter.
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+The point is, is that when you remove the consensus of the lab leak and you stop listening to all the different people on the view
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+and all the different people on the television talk about this stuff, it starts to become very different.
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+Ah!
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+I'm over here, Sheldon.
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+That was a close one.
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+I almost met home with that guy.
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+Are you doing okay? Do we need to go?
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+No, I'm fine. I admit all these people did take me by surprise at first, but I've learned that I can accept change.
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+And you cannot underestimate how Rand Paul and Tony Fauci were a consensus of sorts.
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+Because they were performing the same dance.
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+Now, I get that that's a little more complicated than the track laughter, but in reality, it's not.
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+Because when you went on social media, there were a bunch of people doing the same dance.
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+Oh no, I'm sure there's no evidence for a lab leak. Give me a break.
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+It was in the, the market.
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+And when we did all kinds of analysis, it seems like there was even a cluster over the northwest corner.
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+Get out of here.
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+The idea that this debate was occurring all over the place and people were selling books about it from both sides of the,
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+and documentaries were being made and PBS was doing specials on Fauci.
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+And Fauci was laughing and calling it an automobile into a motorcycle, an airplane into a motorcycle.
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+I mean, come on.
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+And so you start to think that, wow, this must be real because there's a consensus that it's a debate about whether this was a natural virus or whether it was a lab leak.
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+Oh my gosh, gain of function. Man, oh man, what could they make in there?
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+And without sufficient biological sophistication, it starts to become a story about whether it's really zombies or, or, or werewolves.
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+And so they can tell you that a scary virus was released in the beginning of 2020 or late 2019.
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+And that scary virus spread around the world and then they can have all these different people around talking about it with increasing sophistication and increasing, you know, rhythm and jazz about it.
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+But the bottom line is that if you analyze what this guy said from June 2020 until now, it's not a consistent story of I need to speak up because I want to save lives.
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+The only person who's told a consistent story, I want to speak up because I want to save lives is Mr. Sparkle, a.k.a. Mike Eden.
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+I do think Wolfgang Wodach has done a pretty good job too, but I think he was too, too already hammered and, and, and spread thin by his previous encounter with this Goliath.
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+And so it was very easy for him to be turned off by the whole fight, knowing how difficult it would be to convince people that this was not right.
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+And it is still difficult to convince people that what happened didn't really happen.
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+I'm going to start with this every night from now on until we have it a little better, but I think transfection is not immunization is pretty straightforward.
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+And I think intramuscular injection is not a valid means of immunization is also a pretty darn good way of saying it.
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+So Mr. Sparkle on Mr. Dr. Drew.
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+Here we go.
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+Thank you for joining me everybody.
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+Good to see you guys out there. Let me see who's there.
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+I am still planning to talk to Dr. Sabina Zahn. I just haven't really, those are one of those.
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+That's one of those people that since I haven't met her yet, you know, when you reach out to him, you kind of want to be committed to, to do in the interview.
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+I'll be really honest with you. I've been preparing for a long time to do a basic immunology lecture, which I haven't done in a while.
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+And I want it to be up to par also with the gut.
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+And in that sense, I'm still a little behind. And so that's part of the reason why I haven't asked her as well.
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+And I don't know if I see anything else there in the chat right now.
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+Sorry, just go ahead and put some more back in if you want.
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+Your speech is off with the camera. How bad is it?
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+Speech timing is okay. You want me to try and fix it?
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+It's it's the twitch is doing all kinds of crazy stuff to me. Hopefully that this will be okay.
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+What do you think speech looks good to me? It's fine for you. I'm going to leave it. Here we go. Let's do this thing.
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+Welcome back everybody. As I said, Dr. Michael Yaden in the house with us from the United Kingdom.
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+He is a former VP advisor where he was involved with allergy and respiratory researcher.
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+There for over a decade and a half and finally went into a biotech on his own.
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+He has had some concerns about the research around which MR&A vaccines are brought to market.
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+He also has been had some grave concerns about the whole notion of lockdown, something that we have addressed many, many times on this program.
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+Please welcome Dr. Michael Yaden.
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+Great to be with you on your show and fantastic to go to reach your your audience, some of which will be new for me. I hope.
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+Excellent. So why don't we just get right to it? Well, I've got Kelly victory in here in just a minute.
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+But what were your concerns about the MR&A vaccine and when you raise them, what happened to you?
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+Yeah. So I didn't work in vaccines. I think it's important that people know that.
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+It's very important also to know that the MR&A and all gene based so called vaccines are completely different from any other job you might have had.
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+And they're right in my in my wheelhouse because I spent over 30 years collaborating with medicinal chemists to do what's called rational drug design.
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+If you want a drug to do something, you don't describe a handful of atoms from the bench. You think about the structures where you want the drugs to go, what it should do for how long and so on.
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+So I think I can look at the structure of a molecule and have a good idea of the intent of the designer.
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+And when I looked at the MR&A vaccine, I looked at the Pfizer one and Moderna one. I was horrified because the mRNA is it's injected into your body.
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+It's a code. It's a piece of genetic code to tell your body to make something some instructions to manufacture something. Well, when you do that, you don't give a single dose.
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+You're giving it as it were a course of treatment and it could be some people will make lots of whatever that instruction is, and some people will do that for a long time and other people make very little for a short time.
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+So you've got a massive variation in the impact of the stuff on people.
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+If I could stop you there, why is that the case? I presumably were all hitting the same protein manufacturing machinery, the ribosomes and setting up the transcription of the protein.
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+Why is it so variable person to person? And why did you anticipate that and why wasn't that more anticipated by the drug companies?
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+Well, I'll come back to the anticipated parts because my contention is that there are multiple deliberate toxicities built into these materials, and I can justify that.
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+But yes, certainly what we've done here is add an extra few steps. So the drug has got to distribute like other drugs, but then it's got to be actively taken up.
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+Your body doesn't want from DNA in itself, and we'll fight that. So it's going to be actively taken up, and some people will take up a lot or a little, and sometimes they will copy that efficiently or less efficiently.
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+And so those two things will produce just a greater range of outcomes, but that's not my biggest concern. That was the first one I thought of.
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+The next one is, took me a while to get here. I ask your audience to think, how is it that their body plays nice with itself, doesn't attack itself unless you're unfortunate and have an autoimmune disease, but normally your immune system, like they're like military personnel.
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+They stand there barracks that don't harm you, but when you're infected, or you get a cancer, maybe they go to war, and you know the distinction, how it is that your body does that trick.
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+It distinguishes itself, all things inside your body that are meant to be there, it doesn't attack anything foreign anything non self, it will attack.
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+So, when you take me and get one body to make a piece of a foreign organism.
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+That's not my dog.
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+When your body is instructed to make a piece of foreign non human protein, every cell that expresses that is now blaring a signal I've been invaded your immune system goes to war and tries to kill it.
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+The single cell, this material goes into these could never ever be safe for a mass market use I think I can only think of two legitimate uses and we did discuss the one I was advising one is to replace a human protein that you should have, but
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+the other one would be if you've got a cancer, and you do want to target those cells and kill them using immunosomacology, but if you just give it to mass population, they will attack their own cells and kill them.
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+That is the reason why you see dozens of different side effects, because it's one mechanism of toxicity, but express anywhere in the body wherever it happens to land.
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+There are many more concerns but that's that's my first top one.
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+And you said this was intentional.
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+I'm just going to cut over here really quick.
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+I just want to say, after he said rational drug design, and horrified by the design idea itself, he said we're giving a course of treatment with a variable dosage.
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+And then Dr Drew kind of interrupted him and I just want to kind of clarify that there are, there are a few things at play here.
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+The first thing at play is the idea that there are variable dosages in the lot numbers, so there were some placebo lots, there might have been some very hot lots, there might have been lots, there were toxic because of other things like the DNA plasmid or other contaminants.
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+And we just have no idea what kind of quality control variability went out into these billions of arms, just because as Mike said, you can't make hundreds of thousands of anything much less billions of something with high quality control, you know, like a year, that's not possible.
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+Now the reason why this is important is because, you know, Mark Koolack of his atomic ITS and his atomic life has been working tirelessly to learn this biology and learn biology that a lot of people don't understand.
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+And mainly because he wants to understand exactly where the cutting edge is, and I hope that when you come here, you feel like that's what we're doing a lot as well.
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+But I can sometimes take for granted the idea or the appreciation that I have for the complexities that are involved and kind of assume that everybody else is thinking that way.
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+And I think Mark, more than anyone else that I followed during the pandemic has really come into his own as far as understanding those complexities and being able to express an adequate awe of them.
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+And when we come to the idea of talking about transfection, it's important to understand that when Bill Gates stands in front of a lighted table with a bunch of props like a half of a DNA molecule or a virus made of styrofoam, it's not coming close to capturing the complexity of the system that they are
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+purporting to augment by injecting some lipid nanoparticles that may or may not have some RNA in them, which may or may not code for a protein that they say is on a pathogen that was released from Wuhan is spread around the world over the last three years.
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+And the extraordinary part of this is that even if all those things are correct and that RNA is in there and it is going to go into lipid nanoparticles and those lipid nanoparticles are going to successfully transfect cells in your body.
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+Depending on what cells are there and your own particular ribosomes, your own particular genetic background, your own particular physiology at the time.
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+And countless variables that I could never possibly imagine are in symphony figuring out how much and what will be produced from that RNA that was injected in your arm and then seeped out and went all through your body.
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+It's incredibly variable. It's not just how much spike protein and how long, but different tissues will fold it differently.
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+It's even possible that different sub tissues of the same organ will fold it differently.
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+It's even possible that ribosomes within the same cell will fold the protein differently, especially given all the chemical modifications to it.
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+And that kind of complexity is only really part of your consciousness with biology.
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+If you've really tried to challenge yourself to listen to people who really know where that cutting edge is and Mark has taken the time to listen to and read some people who have tried to really figure out, for example, how a ribosome works.
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+And those people can pretty adequately express after winning a Nobel Prize how far away we are from understanding how a ribosome works.
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+And why it's so difficult to understand how a ribosome works and why it's so fascinating to try.
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+But those people who are able to approach the edge of biology with sufficient resolution are able to come to an appreciation of how at certain moment the complexity becomes no longer possible to simplify.
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+No longer possible to almost grasp in a sense become right to the Brownian motion.
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+Can anybody see that? Are we back online or what?
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+Is this working? Test one, two, testing. Thank you, Christy, for that checkup.
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+Man, oh man, is that annoying? I don't really know what to say about that.
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+I guess I'm just going to start it because I don't really, but I am going to start the video over again.
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+This is Mr. Sparkle. I'm Dr. Drew.
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+And this is giga home biological high resistance low noise information stream brought to you by a biologist.
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+That biologist is Jonathan Cooley. We're starting over again because the last video.
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+I'm not sure what happened. Something froze up here or something froze up there. I don't know what went wrong.
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+I'm not going to try and speculate on it. I'm just going to start playing here.
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+Somebody questioned this earlier before we started about how Dr. Drew isn't censored.
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+I have a good feeling. I know why.
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+And this video could very well disappear from YouTube at some point.
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+But Dr. Drew's stream starts out with at least four minutes of sales pitch for various supplements.
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+And those supplements include treatment for this spike protein and all this other stuff.
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+So anyway, I've got a bigger theory about why people are able to stay on the internet.
+
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+But remember, there's also this idea that he wouldn't have been able to do this in 2020.
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+He wouldn't have been able to do that in 2021. And now he is able to do it in 2023.
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+Not everybody's able to do it. Mark, Mark Coolack can't go on YouTube and do whatever he wants to.
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+And if Mark Coolack went on YouTube with Michael Eden, my guess is, is that that wouldn't go anywhere.
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+Because again, they can count on Dr. Drew and Dr. Victory to, even if they let Mike Eden talk their ear off,
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+you know, the next 50 guests are all going to be pretty much darn well on narrative,
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+gain a function, lab leak, the whole nine yards.
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+And you will hear, I think in this video, and I think you should pay very close attention to that.
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+What parts of the narrative do they challenge?
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+And the narrative is novel virus.
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+We had to do something.
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+mRNA would have worked a lot better if we hadn't rushed it.
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+Maybe if we hadn't chosen that protein.
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+And gain a function means that a virus will come again.
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+And so that narrative, that question is, when Mike challenges that narrative,
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+will they push back and force Mike back in the rails?
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+That's really the question. That's what you want to be paying attention to.
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+That's what I'm going to take notes for.
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+And I've already talked about it once.
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+But when he talks about rational drug design and he talks about the variable dosage of the mRNA shot,
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+make sure you realize that it's a compound problem.
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+It's not only about the composition of the shot or what lot you got or whether the LNP is okay, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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+But it's also about what tissue it goes to and your particular genetic background.
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+And then the variability of ribosomes themselves, the whole kitten kaboodle,
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+is one great big black box of complexity on complexity on complexity at a certain moment.
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+And the idea that we think we can augment this beautiful system that is our body with a transfection
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+intramuscularly injected and carried by a lipid nanoparticle is absurd.
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+But remember, I think that the goal of any interview with Mike Eden is either to discredit him
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+or to try and make it seem like Mike basically supports most of the narrative.
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+Novel virus had to do something, mRNA was rushed, but otherwise it would have been good if we wouldn't have made those mistakes.
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+And gain of function means the virus will come again. Here we go.
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+Dave, vaccines are brought to market. He also has been had some grave concerns about the whole notion of lockdown,
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+something that we have addressed many, many times on this program. Please welcome Dr. Michael Yaden.
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+Great to be with you on your show and fantastic to get to reach your audience, some of which will be new for me, I hope.
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+Excellent. So why don't we just get right to it? Well, I've got Kelly Victory in here in just a minute.
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+But what were your concerns about the mRNA vaccine and when you raise them, what happened to you?
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+Yeah. So I didn't work in vaccines. I think it's important that people know that.
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+It's very important also to know that the mRNA and all gene-based so-called vaccines are completely different from any other job you might have had.
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+And they're right in my wheelhouse because I spent over 30 years collaborating with medicinal chemists to do what's called rational drug design.
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+If you want a drug to do something, you don't just grab a handful of atoms from the bench, you think about the structures where you want the drug to go, what it should do for how long and so on.
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+So I think I can look at the structure of a molecule and have a good idea of the intent of the designer.
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+And when I looked at the mRNA vaccine, I looked at the Pfizer one and Moderna one, I was horrified because the mRNA is injected into your body.
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+It's a code. It's a piece of genetic code to tell your body to make something, some instructions to manufacture something.
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+Well, when you do that, you don't give a single dose, you're giving it as it were a course of treatment, and it could be some people will make lots of whatever that instruction is.
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+And some people will do that for a long time, and other people will make very little for a short time. So you've got a massive variation.
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+It's also, it's also possible that certain tissues will make more. It's possible that certain tissues will release more. It's possible that certain tissues will fold the protein in different ways than others will.
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+And so that's all part of this variability that I think, if you've been following Mark, you will also have started to really begin to appreciate how complex this idea is and how ridiculously simplified the cartoon is of a little fat bubble with an RNA.
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+And then you just squirt it into the muscle and it makes some protein and then B cells come like the PBS NewsHour told us for a year.
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+In the impact of the stuff on people.
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+If I could stop you there, why is that the case? I presumably were all hitting the same protein manufacturing machinery, the ribosomes and setting up the transcription of the protein.
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+Why is it so variable person to person? And why did you anticipate that and why wasn't that more anticipated by the drug companies?
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+Well, I'll come back to the anticipated parts because my contention is that there are multiple deliberate toxicities built into these materials, and I can justify that.
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+But yes, certainly what we've done here is add an extra few steps. So the drug has got to distribute like other drugs, but then it's got to be actively taken up.
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+Your body doesn't want from DNA in its cells and we'll fight that. So it's going to be actively taken up and some people will take up a lot or a little, and sometimes they will copy that efficiently or less efficiently.
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+And so those two things will produce just a greater range of outcomes, but that's not my biggest concern. That was the first one I thought of.
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+The next one is, took me a while to get here.
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+I ask your audience to think, how is it that their body plays nice with itself, doesn't attack itself unless you're unfortunate and have an autoimmune disease, but normally your immune system, like they're like military personnel.
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+And they're barracks that don't harm you, but when you're infected, or you get a cancer, maybe they go to war, and you know the distinction, how it is that your body does that trick.
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+It distinguishes itself, all things inside your body that are meant to be there, it doesn't attack anything foreign anything non self, it will attack.
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+So, when you take me and get one body to make a piece of a foreign organism.
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+That's not my dog.
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+When your body is instructed to make a piece of foreign non human protein, every cell that expresses that is now blaring a signal I've been invaded.
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+It goes to war and tries to kill it every single cell this material goes into.
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+These could never ever be safe for a mass market use I think I can only think of two legitimate uses and we did discuss the one I was advising one is to replace a human protein that you should have, but is missing or defective.
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+And the other one would be if you've got a cancer and you do want to target those cells and kill them using immunosomacology.
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+But if you just give it to mass population, they will attack themselves and kill them.
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+That is the reason why you see dozens of different side effects, because it's one mechanism of toxicity, but expressed anywhere in the body wherever it happens to land.
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+There are many more concerns but that's my first top one.
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+So let me just piggyback on that and say that when he said multiple deliberate toxicities he hasn't really gotten into that yet.
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+The two legitimate uses are a little sketch, because replacing a missing protein is what they were trying to do with Jesse Gelsinger using an adenovirus vector to replace a protein that he was missing.
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+But understand something very clear.
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+If you are genetically missing a protein, then when you replace it, you're replacing it with a non-self protein.
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+By definition, it's not a view because you're missing it.
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+So you can't just put it back in and expect your body to go, oh, this is what we needed, thanks.
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+Because your body is already compensating in some less than optimal, but it was definitely compensating in some way.
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+And more importantly, the immune system had matured without that epitope set being part of the self epitope set.
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+So when you put that protein back in, there's not going to be any, you know, there could potentially be T cells that recognize it.
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+There could be potentially natural killer cells that are not turned off and instead are activated by that protein or its fragments being presented on MHC1.
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+So replacing a missing protein sounds like a legitimate use in theory.
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+And in fact, Robert Malone was going to go into gene therapy and went into retroviruses because he thought within 10 years there would be a geneticist at every hospital fixing childhood diseases
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+by replacing missing proteins.
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+And so he missed that boat a little bit because 30 years later, we're still not doing that.
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+We're not even close to doing that because again, once you appreciate the complexity of this biology, you can realize very quickly how ham-handed we are,
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+if we are transfecting with the best case scenario, the purest RNA and the most uniform LNP size distribution will still result in all the downsides of transfection that we're talking about here.
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+Make no mistake about it because that's what this is going to be about.
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+It's going to be tried to sell you on the idea that there are a whole bunch of mistakes made, but transfection still has a couple of legitimate uses, maybe cancer if you're already going to die, and maybe replacing a missing protein if you're already going to die from it.
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+But these are still, as far as transfection goes now on a cartoon or on a tablecloth or on a napkin, transfection is not capable of replacing a missing protein, and it's probably more capable of targeting cancer cells than it is from replacing a missing protein.
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+That's for sure. But transfection, I mean, we've got to be very, very clear about this biology. There's nothing to improve.
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+It is by definition not the way to address a healthy immune system. It's just not.
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+And you said this was intentional?
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+Yes. So, like I said, I spent over three decades working with medicinal chemists on the design of molecules. The procedure is called rational drug design. Nothing in the molecule is there accidentally. What else can I tell you?
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+So, I've told you about the non-self parts when you make a foreign protein, your body will attack it. There's no doubt that's immunology 101. The next one is the all four companies, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Johnson, Johnson and Pfizer, all chose the same part of this so-called COVID-19 virus.
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+They all chose the same part. They all chose the bit that sticks out the outside called spike protein. So a couple of things here.
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+If I was leading a drug discovery team and I did dozens of times, the chances that my peers in the other company will come up with the same solution is remote to tell the truth.
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+And you would never pick this. Why would you not pick this? We knew from previous work that the spike proteins that stick out from the outside of these microorganisms are biologically active.
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+They can trigger blood coagulation and they aren't nearly toxic. They should have picked, if you believe the story about viruses and I have significant concerns.
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+But if we just go with the narrative, you would definitely, definitely not pick the part of the virus that is biologically active.
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+And the fact that all four drug companies did it, it's a black swan event. That's deliberate.
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+I've got one other thing to tell you that's so awful you have to hear it. So I do that.
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+Well, let me just, I'm just going to thinking that I have never really thought about.
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+We know I've thought about the interest of cytoplasmic mechanism of how the RNA turns into protein. I've never thought about how that protein gets out of the cell and the spike protein that is.
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+And I'm wondering if by design, the spike protein is supposed to be released as a result of destruction of the cell.
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+How is that protein exocytosed from a cell by design? That's not built into the protein. What is that mechanism?
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+Well, some proteins are secreted. I don't know whether this one is. But if it was a secretory protein, then yes, it would be exported.
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+It has a transmembrane domain installed into it. So the transmembrane domain is supposed to keep the protein bound to a membrane,
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+whether it's the outer cell membrane or a membrane of an endosome.
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+But secretion could occur when the cell is destroyed by neutrophils. And then that essentially will release whatever proteins are in the cell,
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+including any spike protein or fragments that were made as a result of that transfection.
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+It's a strange question, though. And Mike is making the point that why would they choose this protein? Because we know that these proteins on the outside of viruses tend to be biologically active.
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+And indeed, we know it from dengue. We know it from feline coronaviruses. We know it from flu. We know it from lots of other viruses that vaccinate to that outside, even AIDS.
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+We know that vaccinating to that glycoprotein, the fusion protein on the outside doesn't work.
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+So it's interesting that, again, four companies chose to do it to the same target.
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+And I think Mike is right in saying that that isn't really rational from a business perspective. It's not rational from any other perspective.
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+And so it seems very, very strange that all four major companies chose to do it.
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+If not, I suppose it would build up in a cell until it was killed. That's supposedly the model of a foreign infection. But so here's the, I think, a real.
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+See now, be careful there because I don't think that model of viral infection is correct.
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+In the sense that when cells are made to go through the cytotoxic process when they're in culture and you put virus on them.
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+I don't think that that's akin to X's own production. I think something toxic is happening there.
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+Because the virus does something to kill those cells. Now, it could be overproduction of a protein is enough to kill those cells.
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+Remember, transfection, wherever we've ever done it, ends up with overproduction of a protein that's ultimately toxic to that cell.
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+Either from a pharmacological perspective, just to having too much protein and filling it with.
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+And I'll give you an example. There are proteins that are used in the brain to label neurons all throughout neuroscience called GFP.
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+And this is a huge protein that when you shine certain wavelengths of light on it, it will fluoresce, but it's a giant protein.
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+And when you make enough of it for the small dendrites and stuff of a neuron to be visible, then there's a lot of protein in there.
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+And very quickly after you get a nice looking neuron with lots of protein and it's all visible all the way out to its little tiny branch ends,
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+you start to get toxicity because the cell can't have all kinds of this glow-in-the-dark protein there when there's all kinds of other stuff that needs to move around.
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+And the ribosomes are supposed to be making other proteins in order to maintain the cell.
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+And so at a certain moment that that transfection of GFP in order to label a neuron ends up leading to toxicity because the neuron is not supposed to have that much of a giant glow-in-the-dark protein in it.
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+And so even if transfection works as it's designed to, as Bill Gates explained it on the on the lighted table all those years ago,
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+it's still going to result in the production of a protein that will ultimately result in cell toxicity and an immune response before or after the cell is essentially dysregulated by the overproduction of that protein.
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+Something that's so shocking.
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+You may remember that the J&J and AstraZeneca, they were DNA vaccines and they had a so-called attenuated virus, I think it was an adenovirus.
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+But the mRNA products from Moderna and Pfizer BioNTech, they were encapsulated in a formulation is normal to formulate drugs to give them structure and to allow them to travel around the body and slow release and so on.
+
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+What did they pick?
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+Lipid nanoparticles, LNP.
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+I found a paper dated 2013, I think it was, essentially 12 or 2013, in which it was discussed in a peer review journal article paper that lipid nanoparticles, the macrocarriers for these molecules are known to have a characteristic that's rather upsetting.
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+That characteristic is the accumulates in the ovaries, every species tested.
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+And in the case of the Pfizer products, the Japanese regulators required Pfizer to perform distribution study in rats, which they did.
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+And we've seen a copy of that report under the Freedom of Information Act and lo and behold, it accumulates in the ovaries of rats.
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+This formulation was chosen, in my view, in the full knowledge that it would accumulate in the ovaries of girls and women.
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+That, my afraid ladies and gentlemen, is what's happened to every single female administer this material.
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+And Naomi Wolfe has been making that case.
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+And I've heard these arguments.
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+And what do you say to people that say, well, you know, this was brushed to market because it was an emergency, extraordinary times, extraordinary risks.
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+These issues have been raised, and yet the long-term effects don't appear at this moment.
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+Obviously, yesterday we heard some data that was rather disturbing.
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+But for most people don't appear to be significantly, and by most, I'd say the vast majority, don't seem to have real significant effect.
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+What do you say to somebody who argues that?
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+I do think that the majority of people have not so far been harmed by these products.
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+And it is my sincere hope that they won't be.
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+I do not have a copy of the script.
+
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+I think this is a crime.
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+I think it's a major global crime.
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+Okay, so I'm going to just button here and say that I think on that point, Mike Eden is.
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+I think he's wrong.
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+I don't think there's any way for him.
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+I think it's nice that he says it.
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+I think it's important that we stay optimistic.
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+But I think if you want to be realistic about this, anybody that's taken three or four of these shots and gotten a hot one, you know, that actually has active material in it, you're not the same anymore.
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+And I think most people that I know will admit that they're not.
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+And it doesn't even matter anymore, whether they can connect it in their head temporarily before the COVID debacle.
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+They were healthier before COVID and the last three years.
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+They were healthier and unfortunately they're now vaccinated and they're not healthier anymore and they're sicker all the time and they all say it.
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+And so you can say that you're not damaged, but you're not seeing it.
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+You're seeing it through glasses where you really don't want to see that there's any change and you know that there is.
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+And it's not just from not going to the gym anymore, not from it is from that transfection and people that got lucky got lucky because they weren't transfected.
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+There's no doubt in my mind that anybody that was transfected as directed and as intended is damaged, whether they're symptomatic or not, whether, you know, there's a way I guess to get lucky where the damage is minimal and maybe it won't do anything to you.
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+56:51.000 --> 57:02.000
+But it is very difficult for me to imagine how you get lucky three or four times if most of these shots have active ingredients in them.
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+57:02.000 --> 57:12.000
+And so I like the way Mike is thinking, but you're relying then really on the manufacturing process being so bunk.
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+And that's a good thing to rely on.
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+I think that's reasonable.
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+And it is my sincere hope that the harm that's been experienced, that's it.
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+But it could be, it could be worse. So I don't think very many. I don't think a large proportion of people who've been injected have died or been seriously injured.
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+But I've given you as an experienced drug designed or discovery person.
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+I mean, I would go so far as to say that maybe that's just something, you know, that.
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+No, I'm not going to say anything. I'm just listening.
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+57:46.000 --> 57:54.000
+Multiple lines of evidence that I can assure you would never have left the meeting room if I had been running that room and all four drug companies.
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+So, spike, lipid nanoparticles, foreign proteins, and also a novel technology that has never been used before.
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+And so the thing I missed the phone, what I'm mystified about is I can easily personally, I can go, OK, extraordinary time, extraordinary risk.
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+We're going to go at it.
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+Why are we not going back and now doing the careful research that we would otherwise have done?
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+Were it not an emergency?
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+What were and this is every country on earth, every regulator on earth.
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+Why isn't somebody asking for that? Isn't that weird?
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+58:34.000 --> 58:36.000
+Lots of people asking for it. I can assure you.
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+But the regulators in my country, the MHRA, European Medicines Agency, FDA, it's almost as if they've gone, it's up to under the desk and turned the lights off.
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+There's no sensible interaction with these people.
+
+58:51.000 --> 58:56.000
+But so the reason I was shaking my head about the extraordinary emergency extraordinary times.
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+So I've got a strong statement to make.
+
+58:59.000 --> 59:02.000
+And I'll leave it to your audience to decide.
+
+59:02.000 --> 59:12.000
+It is my contention that every single major narrative point that we were told about the virus and countermeasures was untrue.
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+So I'm sure that's not what the CDC says, but I'm not doing this for entertainment.
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+Nobody pays me.
+
+59:19.000 --> 59:24.000
+I've lost all of my consulting clients and I've accepted no donations.
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+I paid my taxes and countermeasures was untrue and knowingly untrue.
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+The virus and get every single major narrative point that we were told about the virus and countermeasures was untrue and knowingly untrue.
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+So I'm sure that's not what the CDC says, but I'm not doing this for entertainment.
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+59:44.000 --> 59:45.000
+Nobody pays me.
+
+59:45.000 --> 59:47.000
+I've lost all of my consulting clients.
+
+59:47.000 --> 59:51.000
+I've accepted no donations, either money or in kind.
+
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+So I'm doing this because I sincerely believe what I'm telling you.
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+We were told there was a major health threat.
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+And yet the record shows.
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+And you can look at the work of.
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+01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.000
+I can't remember his name now blanks on his name.
+
+01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:08.000
+Anyway, so Canadian epidemiologist called Dennis.
+
+01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:10.000
+Round court.
+
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+R.E.N. CEO.
+
+01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:12.000
+U.R.C. Dennis round court.
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+We talked about.
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+We talked about.
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+Okay.
+
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+So I know it's controversial, but the fact is that there were no increase in deaths.
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+Until WHO declared a pandemic.
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+Whereupon.
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+Almost everywhere they adopted what I would regard as really strange precautions.
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+So.
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+Do you notice that a lot like the Steve curse video?
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+This guy up here is making no affirmative.
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+Notting along or going, yeah, or anything.
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+It's like a real.
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+Real.
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+It's a bad face.
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+I don't know why there isn't more.
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+Yeah, I get it.
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+Okay.
+
+01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:54.000
+Right.
+
+01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:56.000
+It's, it's extraordinary to me.
+
+01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:58.000
+For example, lockdown.
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+01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:02.000
+I have read the pandemic preparedness plans of at least 20 nations.
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+01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.000
+As of 2019.
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+01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:06.000
+Not a single one of them.
+
+01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:08.000
+Dr. True mentions lockdowns.
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+01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:09.000
+Right.
+
+01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:10.000
+I'm aware of this.
+
+01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:12.000
+This was, this was invented in China.
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+01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:15.000
+It was transported by a politician to Italy.
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+01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:21.000
+And then the whole world followed suit because of this one politician who wanted to show.
+
+01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:24.000
+This is well documented in his own book.
+
+01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:36.000
+That Chinese policies were an important adjunct to political management in Italy that he wanted to prove, prove a point about his sinophilia, essentially.
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+01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.000
+Not that he wanted to stop a pandemic.
+
+01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:40.000
+Not that he was doing something medical.
+
+01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:42.000
+But my question is, what happened to us?
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+01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.000
+Why do you think that all happened?
+
+01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:45.000
+Exactly.
+
+01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:49.000
+So I remember at the time it was March 2020.
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+01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:51.000
+And I was watching with increasing horror.
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+01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:54.000
+Basically, they were not telling the truth on the TV.
+
+01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:57.000
+And I won't name names because it might get us into trouble.
+
+01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:02.000
+But some of the public health advisors in the UK, I've been around so long.
+
+01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:05.000
+Some of them in my peers is shocking.
+
+01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:08.000
+The chief scientific advisor is someone I worked with 30 years ago.
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+01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:10.000
+And there is this thing that I don't know.
+
+01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:13.000
+Well, exactly what's happened to you.
+
+01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:14.000
+He was lying.
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+He was telling things that I knew were true.
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+01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:18.000
+Was he hysterical?
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+01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:20.000
+Was he psychotic?
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+01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:22.000
+Was he frightened by something?
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+01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.000
+What was happening?
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+I mean, I don't know because I wasn't there.
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+But I think people were given, they were told, given lines to take.
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+This is your script.
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+So we knew, for example, that people who are symptomatic.
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+With a container.
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+01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:39.000
+Did you hear what he said?
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+Can I play it again?
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+So we knew, for example, that people who were given lines to take.
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+This is your script.
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+We knew, for example, that people who were there, but I think people were given, they were told, given lines to take.
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+This is your script.
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+01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:57.000
+This is your script.
+
+01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:10.000
+We knew, for example, that people who are symptomatic with a contagious disease are much more likely to be able to give it to someone else than people who have no symptoms.
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+You know that as a physician, that the probability of infecting someone when you have no symptoms at all is really very low.
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+And that's because you have smaller amounts of the organism.
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+If you have more, you'd have symptoms.
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+You can't have big burdens of horrible pathogens and no symptoms.
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+01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:32.000
+So I knew this lie about asymptomatic transmission was a dot up thing.
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+And this is vital.
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+Lockdown only makes sense if asymptomatic transmission drives the pandemic.
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+And it doesn't.
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+01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:43.000
+It's been tested.
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+We knew it didn't logically beforehand.
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+And that's why it had never been used before.
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+It made no sense.
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+Also, it's economically appalling, destructive.
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+But by the summer, there are at least a dozen papers showing that asymptomatic transmission, they couldn't detect it.
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+Now, if you're ill, you withdraw from society and sit on your sofa or go to bed or even hospital.
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+You're not walking around the stage and the drugstore.
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+So why lock down or lock down did, ladies and gentlemen, is removed healthy people from society.
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+It could never have reduced transmission and it didn't.
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+So you can see that's just unarguable.
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+Why did all the countries did it?
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+Even if China led and the Italian politician pontificated.
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+No, it looks like, according to Drew, or to Liam there in the chat,
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+that Dr. Drew has advocated for testing and maybe even thought that one brand was better than another.
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+And of course, Michael Eden said to stop testing a long time ago,
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+because none of these products could possibly be as accurate or with high fidelity as they say they are.
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+And I agree with them all heartedly.
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+But keep in mind that what Dr. Drew did earlier was he yelled about it being rushed to market and all this other stuff.
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+And then he said, you know, extraordinary times, extraordinary measures.
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+And so I think the reason why Dr. Drew isn't censored is because that's where we are in the Scooby-Doo.
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+We are really at the stage now where we're going to start to reveal that in addition to a dangerous pandemic virus,
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+there was also a lot of dangerous behavior that made it even worse because they have nothing really to lose by adding that detail.
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+And so I think we're going to still hear in this video, we're going to go back to manufacturing poorly,
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+we're going to go back to contaminants, we're going to go back or we haven't really gone there yet,
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+01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:47.000
+but I suspect we're going to go further into the idea that the spike protein is toxic.
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+It made the Germans, the French, the Dutch, the Brits, the Americans all do the same.
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+And I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe absolutely New Zealand.
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+I believe this.
+
+01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:04.000
+That is the strongest evidence of super national organization.
+
+01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:08.000
+Something above the level of the nation was driving these plans.
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+And I don't know whether it's the WHO, the UN World Economic Forum,
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+01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:15.000
+Uncle Tom Copley and all.
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+I don't know.
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+01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:18.000
+Something above the level of nation.
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+And that's why they all did the same thing.
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+They've been told to.
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+Well, certainly World Health Organization is going forward with a plan to be a super national authority in a setting like this explicitly.
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+I mean, but I do remember the World Health Organization being one of the earliest,
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+or at least representative so-called, supposedly, of the North Health Organization saying that lockdowns did nothing but damage at risk individuals, economically distressed individuals.
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+They said it out loud several times.
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+And yet, policies did not change.
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+It was a very bizarre time.
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+Okay, Dr. Michael Jaden, we are going to bring Dr. Kelly Victory in here right now.
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+Is there anywhere you'd like to refer people, Dr. Jaden, if they want to find more information from you?
+
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+I'm not allowed to have anywhere.
+
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+Seriously.
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+The only place you can find me is Telegram, a place called Telegram.
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+01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:20.000
+And I have a joint channel with an Italian architect and a good close friend called Robin Manotti, M-O-N-O double T.I.
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+01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:22.000
+And then plus my name.
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+And I post incessantly.
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+Anywhere else I am banned.
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+You know, really badly.
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+All right.
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+All right, Dr. Michael Jaden, we'll bring in Dr. Kelly Victory to continue this interview right after this.
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+It's not a conversation.
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+Especially since Renee has been asking for.
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+The wellness company.
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+A lot of you have been asking for more information about how to counter the adverse effects of the spike protein from COVID infections and the COVID vaccine.
+
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+The spike protein is not your friend.
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+Let's just say that.
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+So I'm glad we have the wellness company spike support formula as a sponsor.
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+Especially since renowned internists and cardiologists, Dr. Peter McCullough,
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+01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:09.000
+who also chief scientific officer of the wellness company, is one of its champions.
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+There's some very intriguing research around natto kinase, which might be a way to take on the spike protein.
+
+01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:14.000
+Listen to this.
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+So start, if you would, with talking about natto kinase, how you got to that and where you see its application.
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+So with the viral infection or the vaccines, the spike protein stays within the body and it's found in the heart, the brain, the vital organs and it's causing problems.
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+The Japanese have been using this for the heart of this, where you see its application.
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+So with the viral infection or the vaccines, the spike protein stays within the body and it's found.
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+So with the virus and the vaccine, the spike protein stays within the body is the reason why this video stays on YouTube.
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+I can guarantee it.
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+01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:57.000
+That is 100% bullshit.
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+And if it is not bullshit, then it is based on the idea that when you get infected with a clone of the original spike with all the right sequences in it.
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+Or you get transfected with an RNA encoding that protein that you're going to develop some of the symptoms of what they're calling COVID.
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+And if you inhale it, you might have a pneumonia develop because it might also be able to transfect bacteria.
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+Now the point here is to remember that once you start equivocating transfection with the virus, because they both have the spike protein and the spike protein stays in your body with both of them, you have to be, this is not right.
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+And this is the reason why this video is not taken down from YouTube because this is where we are in the narrative.
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+We are now teaching people that the reason why there are all these horrible adverse events is because there's DNA and other stuff in the shot.
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+And the spike protein was a terrible choice of antigen.
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+Why would we ever do that?
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+And so if they can use Mike to try and send that message and, you know, minimize their reaction to Mike's other messages like everybody's lying and there was no real spread and I don't think that things can do that, then maybe it's okay.
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+But so far they haven't really let Mike say that and Mike hasn't said it.
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+And now they're telling you that like the virus and the vaccine, the spike stays in your body.
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+In the heart, the brain, the vital organs and it's causing problems.
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+The Japanese have been using this for heart and vascular disease.
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+Now for 20 years, it's safe. It is a form of a mild blood thinner that it dissolves the spike protein nearly completely.
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+Spike support formula is the only product on the market containing nano kinase, dandelion root and a host of other antioxidants, all showing promise in helping you protect yourself and your family.
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+President Trump recently issued a warning from his Mar-a-Lago home quote, our currency is crashing and will soon no longer be the world standard, which will be our greatest defeat, frankly, in 200 years.
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+There are three reasons the central banks are dumping the U.S. dollar inflation deficit spending and are insurmountable national debt.
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+The fact is there is one asset that has bestowed famine wars, political and economic upheaval dating back to biblical times gold.
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+And you can own it.
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+Holy crap.
+
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+Time to count with the help of birch nutty.
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+You know why this thing stays on YouTube.
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+That's right.
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+Visit us.
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+Thank you for that.
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+Now you're spooning for 60.
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+Do it today for 60% off.
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+Some platforms have banned the discussion of controversy.
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+Send that doesn't boil down to a risk benefit calculation.
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+It is the mandate public health to consider the impact of any particular mitigation scheme on the entire population.
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+This is uncharted territory.
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+Welcome, Dr. Kelly.
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+Victory.
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+We've heard some challenging propositions here.
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+Dr. Victory.
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+Hey, Dr. Yaden.
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+I am absolutely.
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+I'm not really sure what to say about shedding because if people are really expressing spike protein for months and there is really active RNA for months, then shedding is possible for sure.
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+But I just don't know how well that's being quantified and I don't think anybody really is trying to quantify it in an honest way.
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+So it's tough.
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+But I can say it's definitely possible.
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+If the transfection works and you get a good one and you're producing a lot and it lasts for months, then I think yes, it's very possible. Just like, I mean, go ahead and eat garlic.
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+Eat like four cloves and then go do some jump rope outside.
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+You know, 12 hours later, I think your sweat will smell something different.
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+And so, you know, you can put stuff in your stomach that your body will will absorb and that oil will be smellable a day later.
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+If you inject yourself with something that produces high quantities of a protein because of the chemical alterations of that mRNA, there is a potential for you to sweat it out.
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+That's the whole reason why sex was not allowed and you weren't supposed to have sexual contact with people in the trial of the mRNA because they just didn't know how it would pass from the body, how it would be excreted.
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+But sweat glands is definitely high on the radar of how it would be excreted.
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+And so people who are transfected could even have spike in their sweat coming out of their sebaceous glands. It's very possible, not because the transfection is there, but because the proteins ends up there for some reason or another.
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+That's how they detected apparently.
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+But again, I can't stress enough how this idea of shedding protein could just be part of the elaborate narrative to try and get you to believe that the RNA technology works as directed.
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+It makes spike protein so much that you shed it.
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+01:14:50.000 --> 01:15:03.000
+Maybe it'll work and to vaccinate your whole family by just vaccinating one person. So that shedding ideas very seductive from the functional perspective, and that's why I don't like it.
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+Because it lets a narrative of, wow, it works so well that you make exosomes with spike protein on the outside after some of those cells are destroyed and then you breathe those out, and then your friends get immunity.
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+And we, although I think it's possible. I think that narrative doesn't feel quite right.
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+But I'm definitely open to it because it's not asking for any magic to happen.
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+I'm definitely delighted to have you join us today. I know you're not doing a lot of interviews anymore. And I really appreciate you taking the time to do this one, and to share with our audience your thoughts on this and particularly given the time change.
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+Thank you.
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+That would be a very good way to explore it would be to train a dog.
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+I believe that some people can smell it.
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+And I will tell you that my wife has had two experiences where her mental cycle was dysregulated in close proximity to an exposure to someone who had been vaccinated so for me, I have two anecdotal stories that I trust from a person that I trust but that still hasn't convinced me that definitely it's happening.
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+But again, I'm not doubting it. It's just, it's one of those things that if that's there, then that's even worse, you know, that's all I can say.
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+And for for doing it.
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+You are one of the first people who I was following actively at the beginning of this debacle.
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+And I would say there's very little, frankly, between what you have been saying what I've been saying from the very beginning.
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+I've been very vocal about the fact that this is not mistakes my government made. This was wise my government told me.
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+And I firmly believe that. And for what it's worth for our audience, we are bringing Tom Ren's back in August on the 17th.
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+So they're selling Robert Malone's book and they're bringing Tom Ren's back to tell us about the Scooby Doo.
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+Tom Ren's is actually going to be exposing, I believe, the goods, the irrefutable evidence that not only did they lie, but they they lied well in advance.
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+This was planned out and everything from masking to lockdowns to social distancing and then the vaccines.
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+They were fully aware of the dangers that those things posed.
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+So people should put that on their calendars. I want to start. I want to go back to what you're saying at the very beginning with through some conversation you're having with regard to the vaccines.
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+I raised huge concerns about these vaccines from way before they were launched as well.
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+For a little bit different reason than you did.
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+Interestingly, you know, as somebody who has an extensive history like you do experience in drug development.
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+One of the things I thought was perplexing if you really wanted to make an effective vaccine was why would you target the spike protein?
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+Even if you didn't know that the spike protein was toxic, which I didn't know that initially, even if you didn't know that that was the thing that was thrombogenic, for example, that is the area that we absolutely know is the area most likely to mutate.
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+You know, all viruses mutate coronaviruses are particularly adept at it. They do it more quickly than others in the area that is most likely to mutate would be that spike protein.
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+So the idea of creating a vaccine predicated on a singular spike protein that's likely to change it about, I don't know, 15 minutes.
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+And therefore not be, you know, susceptible, if you will, to the antibodies you produced.
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+I'd just like to remind you here that there is still an unpublished data set from a young scientist named Alina Cham, who looked at how the spike protein changed over the course of the pandemic, and compared it to the rate of change that was reported for SARS-1 back in 2002 and 2003.
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+And she found that the SARS virus sequences that were reported in the early 2000 break outbreak would sometimes vary by as much as 50 amino acids per sequence that was sampled.
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+And at the very start of this pandemic for the first six months, the sequences were less than 10 amino acids different.
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+Can you say infectious clone.
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+Why would they do that?
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+I agree with you. That's, there's at least three reasons why you wouldn't pick the spike protein one. We've touched on its biological activity. It's not a nice thing. You do not want it in your body.
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+The second, as you say, it is definitely reported at the site of the greatest rate of change. And so why would you do that?
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+And the third one is very important. It's not as different from you and me as you could choose what you would want with an ideal vaccine is something that's very characteristic of the organism and very, very different from you.
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+And I'm afraid one of the things I spotted early was a weak but important homology between spike protein and a protein vital in pregnancy called syncytia one.
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+And I just remember thinking, why would hell would you risk putting a protein? So here folks, ladies and gentlemen, the concern I had would be if they did mount an effectively immune response to this foreign protein.
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+There was a little bit similar to you. Some of your immune response might spill over and attack that thing that's slightly similar in you.
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+And the prediction would be if that happened, it would impact fertility and chocolate. And all around the world, what is happening? A fall of 10 to 15% in the life birth everywhere you look.
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+Yes, and I reported on this same thing and I think there's undoubtedly because of that overlap between that normal human protein that is required for the implantation and the development of the placenta critically important so you've listed three things.
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+One, that they spike protein by itself is toxic. Number two, I'm going to go out there and go crazy right now because I want to make sure that everybody understands that this is possible.
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+Synchatin is, synchatin is a protein that has homology to many fusion proteins. Okay.
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+01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:19.000
+So the idea of this homology is there and it's real, but we have lots of proteins that for one reason or another have homology with viral proteins.
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+01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:33.000
+And that's because viruses aren't the pathogens that we say they are there. Also part of this huge bouquet of unknown cell to cell communication, basically unstudy.
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+And so the trick here to remember is that even this story of the homology with synchatin was not just Michael Eden's story was somebody else's story to I believe it was a guy from Norway who said it as well.
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+I believe that somebody by the name of Dolores Cahill was on to at least some other symmetries as well.
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+So I would argue imagine the possibility, imagine the possibility that if this really is a Scooby-Doo, then even the sequence itself is part of the Scooby-Doo.
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+And so putting these number one, you have to make sure that you realize that synchatin is a protein, which is already homologous to viral fusion proteins, irrespective of this fusion protein.
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+And so the near homology with that is not really surprising.
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+So Mike is just saying you wouldn't choose this protein because this protein is related to a protein that's related to fetal development and placental development and etc.
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+So he's not saying that this sequence is in the spike protein because somebody put it there.
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+But he's also not specifically saying that we know that synchatin is a protein that is derived from a viral protein because that's just the way this is.
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+There are proteins which bring membranes together.
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+Okay, I'm going to leave it there.
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+It is the area most likely to mutate as the virus goes through its normal mutation process.
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+And number three, it is not different enough from that which is self to keep your body from being attacked by antibodies that are produced to it.
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+And number four, and it's fundamental. I didn't think about it initially, but I mentioned earlier today, it's not you. It's non self. If you, if your body may just something that doesn't belong there, your body will think that's what happens in cancer.
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+01:24:49.000 --> 01:25:03.000
+And you often produce an aberrant protein and it leaves a marker on the cell, cell surface that's your, your immune system says, hey, that doesn't belong here and killed it. That's, that's calling me.
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+01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:07.000
+You're going to this every day. We take it.
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+Again, I'm spending so much time trying to make sense of things. And if you, if you accept my premise that things were rushed and people did believe it was an emergency, again, that's a hypothesis. I'm not saying it's factually the case.
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+And I know you have challenged that, but let's just pause at that. If you're really rushing things out in an emergency, wouldn't it already be likely that the, would you pull something off the shelf that you already had well along the road of research?
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+They must have already been looking at spike proteins. They're already been sort of postulating that they could use something like this.
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+So when it came time to pull the trigger, they went all the way with it and tested it.
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+I think you're a thoroughly good man through.
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+It's a creative solution. Yeah.
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+The answer is no to that, because here's the problem with that.
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+Four companies would pass away down the road with the same product.
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+It's, it's not feasible, is it? They, they made an executive decision.
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+I don't know when they made it. They definitely made it. But they all alighted on the same piece of the, of this virus or a ledge fire.
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+I have a problem with viruses that only develops in the last few months.
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+I can anticipate a little bit of a rebuttal here that somebody will say, yeah, they, they did.
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+But once they decided to make MRNA, then they're just making MRNA.
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+And so they needed the needed to make the lipid nanoparticle and they needed to make the RNA.
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+01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:51.000
+But those things are all basically the same process.
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+And so scaling that process up was the challenge, but it's the same challenge for everybody.
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+And so if it's an emergency and all those, those processes are patented and all the, all the royalties and licensures are governed by the laws that are ready to go for the pandemic, then we can, that's how that happens.
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+The, the whole infrastructure for how the, the intellectual property will be distributed and used during the course of the pandemic was also decided at the beginning of the pandemic.
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+And we need to really inspect what happened and how that, those levers were moved and pushed, which allowed all these companies to all choose the same target and all manufacture it.
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+Without stepping on the intellectual property of one another or with the proper licensure agreements. Do you see?
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+And so not only is it impossible for companies to have accidentally come upon this, but because of the way intellectual property works and because of the way these processes are often part of that intellectual property, then there's no way in hell
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+that all of these companies decided to make the same basic therapeutic without already having worked out all the details of what processes belong to who and what patents belong to who and who was paying licensure to who before we go forward.
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+That had to already be there.
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+I think
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+I am going along with an hour.
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+And it is odd that they didn't go for the nuclear capsid protein, but it's just odd to me.
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+And nuclear caps would have been a reasonable target seems to me, but yeah.
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+I think if you also look at the timing of the, of the development and the, and the submission of the patents on these vaccines, it leads you to the conclusion that this was not something that they all of a sudden in the heat of the moment and the fear of the,
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+01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:06.000
+the pandemic, the fog of war that they also decided to want this up.
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+01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:10.000
+This was calculated and well, well in development.
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+Wow, that was great.
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+01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:13.000
+Well, that's my point.
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+That's, that's, that's my point that they, they had this sort of underway for whether they were ever going to use it or not.
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+No, I think.
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+They had the RNA idea going away.
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+They are, I had to have already prepared those factories and everything that process and the machinery and the equipment.
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+And what would be required was already ready to go so that they could just ship it and sell it or tell them where to order it from.
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+That's for sure.
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+But Dr. Drew said, just follow me along here.
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+You know, it was rushed.
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+It was an emergency.
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+And so that's the third time he's interjected.
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+The last time he interjected, he actually said the who said the lockdowns were bad.
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+The who said lockdowns were bad a lot of times and we just seem to ignore the who.
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+01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:07.000
+Drew even said that the who was actually good.
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+The who said that lockdowns were bad.
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+And so you can almost see where the who is being set up to be better than the United States or some of these governments that locked down when the who said the lockdowns aren't so bad and use remdesivir when the who said remdesivir doesn't work.
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+I see it.
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+01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:33.000
+I see the Scooby-Doo in this already.
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+But now I see an even deeper, yuckier Scooby-Doo where the who and what the who said a few times is actually kind of better than what other entities did.
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+I heard Dr. Drew say it like three times now.
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+But the most important was when he said that the who actually said the lockdowns were bad and we ignored them.
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+Listen carefully, ladies and gentlemen, because there's a reason why this video is not off of YouTube.
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+01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:09.000
+It's because the defense has played out very well here.
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+And despite the offensive juggernaut of Mr. Sparkle, the defense is pretty good in this one.
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+Oh, yeah, and I wanted to spool it back a little bit because Michael Eden said he's going along with the narrative for the sake of the discussion.
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+Because Dr. Drew said, just, you know, give me this, that there was rush and that there was an emergency and people thought it was an emergency.
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+And so Mike went along with that because Drew asked him to let's spool it back to make sure you hear that because he's still doing that a little bit.
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+They all alighted on the same piece of the of this virus or a ledge fire.
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+01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:54.000
+As I say, I have a problem with viruses that only develops in the last few months.
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+01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:57.000
+So I am going along with the narrative for the common sense.
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+01:31:57.000 --> 01:31:58.000
+And it is.
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+01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:02.000
+I am going along with the narrative for the common sense.
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+01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:05.000
+I am going along with the narrative for the common sense.
+
+01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:07.000
+I am going along with the narrative for the purpose of the conversation.
+
+01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:16.000
+So make sure you hear that because he's already resigned to the fact that they're going to talk like this, right?
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+He's already resigned to it.
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+And so I think that's what's happening here.
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+I don't know for sure, but I feel like that's what's happening here.
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+Is odd that they didn't go for the nuclear capsid protein, but this is odd to me.
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+Nuclear capsid would have been a reasonable target seems to me, but yeah.
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+I think if you also look at the timing of the development and the.
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+I don't like the end protein myself because the end protein is even more homologous to other coronavirus entities out there in the record books as recorded by science than the spike protein.
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+01:32:54.000 --> 01:33:13.000
+So if there was a viral protein that developing immunity to was necessary, it wouldn't be the end protein because the end protein from other coronaviruses that we most surely run into if the biology of this pandemic is even remotely true for which we will have previous immunity to.
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+And so that's the last protein I would be worried about.
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+01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:30.000
+And again, we're still talking about using a protein to transfect and make antibodies to which raw, which, which Michael Eden knows is baloney anyway.
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+So again, he seems to more or less be just going along with these people because that's what he's got to do now.
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+I don't really know.
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+But that's what I feel is happening because again, you heard him on Steve Kirsch and now you're hearing him here.
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+And he said, I'm going along with the narrative for the sake of the conversation.
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+01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:57.000
+And I think it's now almost like he's giving up, not because he's given up, but because he doesn't work hard.
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+01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:01.000
+He's a guy who floats in the stream.
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+01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:14.000
+And so if the stream is not a stream that is malleable to his stroke, then he's just going to lay back and float until he gets another chance.
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+01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:15.000
+And then he's going to swim again.
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+And if he gets a chance to swim, he's going to swim like he did with Kirsch.
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+And in this case, I think these two are kind of ganging up on him and sidetracking him.
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+And so he's just like, you know, I'm going along with the conversation for this or going along with the narrative for the sake of the conversation.
+
+01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:34.000
+It's a mission of the patents on these vaccines.
+
+01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:47.000
+It leads you to the conclusion that this was not something that they all of a sudden in the heat of the moment and the fear of the pandemic, the fog of war that they also decided to want this up.
+
+01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:53.000
+This was calculated and well, well in development in advance of the announcement.
+
+01:34:53.000 --> 01:35:02.000
+Well, that's my point though. That's that's that's my point that they had this sort of underway for whether they were ever going to use it or not.
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+01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:14.000
+No, I think what's actually is, and I'm saying the same that I don't believe all the pieces all fell together in March 2020 with literally 180 countries.
+
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+They had rehearsed this. Did you know, if you don't, it's worth looking at up that there have been tabletop simulations of global pandemics stretching back to 1997 the first one was held at Andrews Air Force Base Washington.
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+01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:44.000
+And there have been about another 15 or 20 of them. The most recent was the Bill Gates sponsored events 201 that took place in October 2019.
+
+01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:51.000
+And guess what folks the scenario was from deep as China emergency novel coronavirus that spreads around the world.
+
+01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:52.000
+From what?
+
+01:35:52.000 --> 01:35:53.000
+From what?
+
+01:35:53.000 --> 01:36:00.000
+I mean, that's so honestly, I'm I'm I always like to believe the best of people.
+
+01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:10.000
+And I remember the first time I heard this, I thought, you've got to be kidding me. This means you were rehearsing the very thing that you allege happened three months later.
+
+01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:14.000
+And I'm expected to buy the coincidence. Yes.
+
+01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:22.000
+But I think I think a simple person will conclude that this has been years in the planning. I'm sorry.
+
+01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:34.000
+Well, but let me let me let me let me twist that a little bit on its ear and say we are aware of this pandemic ink that had been created over the preceding 15 or 20 years.
+
+01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:41.000
+And there was a there was a many, many thousands of scientific hammers waiting to hammer upon a nail.
+
+01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:46.000
+In this case was the spike protein, but pandemic ink was well established.
+
+01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:55.000
+It could that be your theoretical supranational organization that had its way with the elected representatives?
+
+01:36:55.000 --> 01:37:02.000
+Maybe it was that pandemic ink group who were so ready to pull the trigger on everything.
+
+01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:06.000
+By the way, they had not contemplated lockdown till their Chinese counterparts.
+
+01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:11.000
+From that very war game, they were the ones that proposed the lockdown.
+
+01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:15.000
+But couldn't that be the supranational organization you've been looking for?
+
+01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:18.000
+Well, again, you're a very nice guy.
+
+01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:20.000
+That's a very creative solution.
+
+01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:26.000
+They rehearsed 25 years of rehearsal.
+
+01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:30.000
+And actually, I mean, I've thought about this a lot and I hadn't previously.
+
+01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:38.000
+I think I don't think that pandemics of severe respiratory illness are even possible.
+
+01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:40.000
+And I'll explain why.
+
+01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:44.000
+And that's if you have, let's maybe go to the idea of a common cold.
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+01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:47.000
+A common cold for most miles.
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+01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:50.000
+If you have to, you'll stay on your feet through the illness.
+
+01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:55.000
+And so if we go along with an hour, if you could be infecting people all the way through your illness.
+
+01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:58.000
+And so it was spread around the world easily.
+
+01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:03.000
+But if we go to the other end, like a really, really serious flu like they told us this was,
+
+01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:06.000
+it will disable people within the first day or so.
+
+01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:10.000
+And they will be forced to withdraw from circulation.
+
+01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.000
+It will automatically self-terminate.
+
+01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:16.000
+I have to say, if God and nature have not designed us in this way,
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+01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:19.000
+we're going to wipe ourselves out a hundred times already.
+
+01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:21.000
+Do you know who made that case?
+
+01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:25.000
+I interviewed a smallpox expert.
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+01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:26.000
+Yeah.
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+01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:31.000
+No, you may have, but also a smallpox expert named Larry Brilliant is his name.
+
+01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:36.000
+And he early in the pandemic, he said, no, you don't lock down because when smallpox breaks out,
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+01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:42.000
+people either keep to themselves, they hide away from the infected people
+
+01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:45.000
+and the affected people keep to themselves.
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+01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:48.000
+It happens naturally, as you're saying.
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+01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:52.000
+Which is, which is also, by the way, why viruses mutate the way they do.
+
+01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:56.000
+As viruses mutate, they don't become more and more lethal.
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+01:38:56.000 --> 01:39:02.000
+They become more contagious and less lethal because otherwise they would eliminate themselves quite quickly.
+
+01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:05.000
+It's a survival mechanism on the part of viruses.
+
+01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:13.000
+Before, I want to get into something in here though, because Drew, you know, defaults a lot and you're not the only one.
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+01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:19.000
+I agree that this idea of it was the fog of war, you know, they weren't a panic and we quote, didn't know.
+
+01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:22.000
+Yeah, it was so new. It was novel. We didn't know.
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+01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:27.000
+And I push back on that with regard to these vaccines, the vaccines, let's recall,
+
+01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:32.000
+were not launched until we were one full year into the pandemic.
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+01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:39.000
+They were launched the end of December of 2020 and became generally available to the public in January of 21.
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+01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:44.000
+So we are talking about, we had a year of data proven.
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+01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:52.000
+We knew full well that children were at such a de minimis risk from this virus as to be indistinguishable from zero.
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+01:39:52.000 --> 01:40:01.000
+We know that young, healthy people without comorbidities like obesity and diabetes were at fundamentally zero serious risk.
+
+01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:06.000
+Can you hear what's happening here? Of course, she's just reciting the faith.
+
+01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:11.000
+We know that there's a virus and what do we know about it?
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+01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:17.000
+You see, she's reciting the faith. She hasn't listened to anything that Mike Eden said.
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+01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:21.000
+He said that it's not possible for a SARS virus to do a pandemic.
+
+01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:24.000
+He says that.
+
+01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:29.000
+And so you can keep hearing it over and over again, Dr. Drew does it, then she does it.
+
+01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:34.000
+They bring him back into the rails and they're good enough at it. They're good enough at it.
+
+01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:40.000
+They're rehearsed enough at it. They're getting a chat in front of them, which gives them clues as to how to do it.
+
+01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:56.000
+I don't know, but somehow or another, they have been able and rehearsed enough and coached enough to be able to bring this back to this viral narrative every single time.
+
+01:40:56.000 --> 01:41:04.000
+And it's a viral narrative where the countermeasures were rushed and that there's room for improvement on all kinds of things.
+
+01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:08.000
+I mean, goodness sakes, we knew the early treatment word for this virus.
+
+01:41:08.000 --> 01:41:13.000
+We knew that kids weren't vulnerable to this virus.
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+01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:23.000
+They keep saying this virus and Mike keeps saying there isn't a this virus and they act like they don't hear it.
+
+01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:32.000
+But Mr. Sparkle does not is not daunted by these people. He's not, he's not, he's not going to give up.
+
+01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:43.000
+The idea that we launched these vaccines on people who we knew were at zero risk defies, in my mind, this argument that this was fog of war.
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+Dr. Hayden, you agree with that?
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+01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:54.000
+Absolutely. Having spent my entire life in biopharmaceuticals, big pharma, and then my own biotech, you would never do the things that we did.
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+01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:59.000
+And I remember shouting from the sidelines when they got down to school aged children.
+
+01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:07.000
+You know, I was ready to campaign outside schools and explain to people your children are not at risk. Please don't expose them. It doesn't matter if this is safe.
+
+01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:12.000
+You know the long term effects, but the thing that upset me and I was famous for this.
+
+01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:16.000
+You know this. Everybody knows the word for litter might.
+
+01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:22.000
+60 years ago, the US made a wise decision not to launch that, that drug.
+
+01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:28.000
+But in Europe and New Zealand, Australia and Canada, I think lots of people were harmed by the litter mind.
+
+01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:39.000
+It produced birth defects ever since that moment in the late early 60s. We never ever risk experimental medical procedures on pregnant women.
+
+01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:53.000
+And it's not only from the advisor to eat top cheese or drink a drink or have a single cigarette and you think it's okay to stop them with a gene based vaccine that's only a few months old, give me a break.
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+01:42:53.000 --> 01:43:02.000
+You know, and I tell you what else, they had no reproductive toxicology. This is my field between experiments and human.
+
+01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:11.000
+The things you must do is what's called reproductive toxicology study rats and rabbits in various phases of pregnancy. You count the number of parts you look at their health.
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+01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:15.000
+They have not done these studies. They still have not done these studies.
+
+01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:20.000
+And they never let's talk. I just want to.
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+01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:25.000
+So there you go. That I never let's talk.
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+01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:29.000
+Okay, so let's just make sure we mentioned that.
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+01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:34.000
+With Mark Koolak, Mark Hugh Sotonic's work.
+
+01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:40.000
+We have come to realize that around the time of the fluidamide scandal.
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+01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:47.000
+It appears that that less Weinstein actually went to Denmark.
+
+01:43:47.000 --> 01:44:12.000
+And was in Denmark around the time that the fluidamide scandal was brewing there and may or may not have been able to assist with the fluidamide scandal being able to be leveraged as a way of establishing some of the legislative structure upon
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+01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:17.000
+which the FDA is based if I'm not mistaken.
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+01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:38.000
+And so I don't think that this mention of the lidamide is anything more than an indication of the nexus of legal and intellectual property and and regulatory law that was happening at that time and the lidamide may very well have been the linchpin
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+01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:48.000
+that allowed a bunch of pieces on the board of America to move very rapidly during that time.
+
+01:44:48.000 --> 01:44:53.000
+So there you go. That I knew that was that was criminally dangerous.
+
+01:44:53.000 --> 01:45:04.000
+Well, that's a perfect segue because I want to go back to talking about those lipid nanoparticles that we've known since way before 2000 with their papers going back into the 1990.
+
+01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:13.000
+The other reason that I wanted to say and I'd written down here was that Kelly victory challenged the idea that the knife of the virus was novel.
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+01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:24.000
+And it she seemed to imply that by the time they released the vaccines that the virus was a novel anymore because we had a whole year to get exposed to it as well.
+
+01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:33.000
+And so that's again another layer of preserving the faith preserving the Scooby-Doo which is that there is a novel virus.
+
+01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:42.000
+So every time you hear them talk about this virus, they are saying there was a novel virus there reciting it.
+
+01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:58.000
+Ineties that talk about the toxicity of lipid nanoparticles themselves drew and I did an entire show on this and where those accumulate and we knew that they accumulated based on the bio distribution study as you reference from Japan
+
+01:45:58.000 --> 01:46:06.000
+that the 11% of it consolidated in the reproductive organs, specifically the ovaries.
+
+01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:18.000
+It's my understanding as well that at least two of the lipid nanoparticles that were used in these vaccines are not appropriate or not even approved for use in humans or in animals.
+
+01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:23.000
+Do you have any, can you give us any insight into that component of it?
+
+01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:32.000
+Not not more than you've given. I know there are a couple of companies manufacturing them. It is normal. I will say it is normal to formulate drugs.
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+01:46:32.000 --> 01:46:43.000
+Often a drug is so potent that the amount that you would take is so small you can hardly see it. And so you dilute it in what are called excipients and binders and formulation agents and coating agents.
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+01:46:43.000 --> 01:47:01.000
+So I'm not saying formulation is in any way strange, but to choose these particular novel lipid nanoparticles so they're of a class of molecules that have unfortunately do have this property of dumping the macromolecules in the gonads, you know, certainly over this.
+
+01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:08.000
+And we knew that it was a well known thing. So it's not a mistake. They chose that knowing what it would do.
+
+01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:12.000
+You decide what this means.
+
+01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:20.000
+There are three things that I have summarized, you know, to lay people that I say were the three in my mind, the three biggest lies.
+
+01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:30.000
+So I think it's important to point out here now that there is another article by Robert Malone.
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+01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:39.000
+On his sub stack where he talks about the chemical makeup of the lipid nanoparticles, which is what he did earlier.
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+01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:49.000
+If you were recall, we did a we did a brief video about that a few days ago because he had posted a video on his own sub stack kind of explaining it in his own words.
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+01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:58.000
+Here is a much better apparently well written where even references Star Trek a few times.
+
+01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:10.000
+And this long article, I assume, will be the subject because I don't think it's worth it for me to go into this because I think this is a distraction.
+
+01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:19.000
+Even if the lipid nanoparticles are toxic, it's a distraction from the idea that transfection was rolled out as okay.
+
+01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:28.000
+And so they want you to think of the lipid nanoparticles as another thing that they could improve to make this technology better.
+
+01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:36.000
+And I called this already many, many, many, many, many, many months, if not a year or more ago, that's what they were going to do.
+
+01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:47.000
+First with the spike protein, I called that two years ago already, that they were going to say the spike protein is toxic and that's why transfection wouldn't or didn't work as well as it should have.
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+01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:50.000
+Then they said it was because the RNA wasn't translated right.
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+01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:53.000
+Then they said it was because of the chemical alterations.
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+01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:56.000
+Then they said it was because there's DNA in it.
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+01:48:56.000 --> 01:49:00.000
+And now they're saying it's because the lipid nanoparticles are toxic.
+
+01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:06.000
+And so they keep beating around the bush about saying what Mike Eden has been saying from the very beginning.
+
+01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:15.000
+And I've been saying ever since I heard him say it, which is that this has to, first and foremost, best case scenario, generate auto immunity.
+
+01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:37.000
+And so I'm expecting that Charles Ricksy and Christine Grace and Kevin McCann will do a detailed three hour stream about this Robert Malone sub stack because they've been doing three hour streams about lipid nanoparticle chemistry for the last week or so.
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+01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:51.000
+And my critique of Christine Grace's presentation at their weekend resulted in a wonderful dedication of a whole weekend to my work.
+
+01:49:52.000 --> 01:50:18.000
+So I'm really hopeful that they will turn their chemical and biochemical and organic chemical expertise to this essay by Robert Malone and give us an analysis of where Robert Malone gets this wrong since Christine Grace is such an expert in the preparation of lipid nanoparticle preparations.
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+01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:26.000
+I'm really hopeful that they're going to take that and make it into a real instructive analysis.
+
+01:50:26.000 --> 01:50:29.000
+Long list from which to choose.
+
+01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:45.000
+The number one lie was that we were told that the vaccine would stay in the deltoid muscle where it was injected when they knew clearly from the bio distribution studies that that was a lie and it goes essentially every major organ system within a matter of hours.
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+01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:59.000
+We were told that the M RNA would be eliminated quote very quickly from the body. The CDC's own website still says within a matter of days when we know that it lasts in excess of 90 days.
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+01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:03.000
+And that's only because those that's as long as they study.
+
+01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:07.000
+And so we don't know for how long when we'll continue to produce these things.
+
+01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:20.000
+These have spike proteins as a result of the M RNA. And number three, we were told no way know how could this be incorporated into the DNA. Now there's reverse transcribed.
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+01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:33.000
+What's your understanding of the reverse transcription that third component, the idea that this M RNA would in perpetuity or become incorporated within the DNA of the cells.
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+01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:43.000
+It is certainly possible. There's nothing about the design of these that would make it impossible and has been demonstrated. I believe in human cells in test tubes.
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+01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:53.000
+So, you know, we're out of the way you would say that I would think a caution cautious person would would assume that it's possible rather than the opposite.
+
+01:51:53.000 --> 01:52:10.000
+And the one thing I want to mention on the theme of how long these materials would persist in your body. I don't know whether ladies and gentlemen audience are aware that this messenger RNA, you know, they make it sound unnatural, but actually,
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+01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:25.000
+part of the M RNA is synthetic and non natural one of the four components that make it up has been chemically modified. So it's not normal. And you know what they chemically modified it is to make it last longer.
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+01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:42.000
+And so, you know, again, what do you make of that ladies and gentlemen, they chemically modified one of the bases specifically to make it last longer. And what are we seeing now persistent expression of the message over months and it could be permanent.
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+01:52:42.000 --> 01:52:54.000
+Some people could constantly make low levels of this material forever. And I believe their immune system will will kill that tissue, wherever it's being produced have to happen.
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+01:52:54.000 --> 01:53:09.000
+Yeah, I think it was my understanding that they did that they did this synthetic M RNA because otherwise remember the very beginning, we were told these were to be difficult because they had to be stored at sub sub zero super cold temperatures that made would
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+01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:19.000
+made it impossible to then be distributing it in the parking lot at the Walmart, you know, or giving you know these vaccine clinics that were popping up on every street corner.
+
+01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:33.000
+So that was my understanding they made the synthetic M RNA specifically so it would last longer. It would not break down very quickly. And it was quite purposeful is is how I how I understood it.
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+01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:41.000
+I've got another another thing that's it's not entirely in my field but it's one that's directly adjacent to it. So there's a gen.
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+01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:54.000
+I can't let her get away with that she's saying that they altered the RNA chemically so that it wouldn't need super cold temperatures for shipping.
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+01:53:54.000 --> 01:54:00.000
+I'm sorry but that's that's really wrong.
+
+01:54:00.000 --> 01:54:08.000
+The synthetic RNA is codon optimized for maximum human expression of protein.
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+01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:28.000
+And the RNA has been chemically altered so that uracils are changed to uridine pseudo uradines and this is to avoid the degradation of the RNA and it also seems to reduce the intracellular immune response.
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+01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:34.000
+This is a result of the RNA and we're not sure of all the mechanisms why.
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+01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:43.000
+But that seems to be the case so it's not for shipping, which is a very bizarre thing to say.
+
+01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:47.000
+How could you.
+
+01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:52.000
+Yeah, it's a very bizarre thing to say.
+
+01:54:52.000 --> 01:55:03.000
+I don't know how to process in manufacturing R&D in the pharmaceutical industry than I have in research. His name is Headley Reese. He's a Welsh guy.
+
+01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:19.000
+Headley Reese and he's in sub stack. And he points out to me, Mike, you should know that pharmaceuticals are like cars and airplanes. They're manufactured from various starting materials and they go through intermediate forms and then you finally
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+01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:30.000
+assemble it on the line. And every single one of those steps is a chemical or biochemical reaction. You have to have target concentrations, purities, impurities and so on.
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+01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:45.000
+He said the R&D process to manufacture complex biologicals minimally takes four years, four years. Yeah, if you take this, if you take it, he says, I don't know what the whole isn't these glass bottles, but it's not what they're telling you.
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+01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:56.000
+It's not possible to manufacture instantly a complex molecule in that. Yeah, that's so as we're getting as we get to the weeds here. This is stuff that we.
+
+01:55:56.000 --> 01:56:14.000
+And so I think it's really important to underscore this that one of the things that people like the Twiv episodes and some people like Kevin McKernan and some of these other very bright molecular biologists that are waving their hands claiming that they know everything.
+
+01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:28.000
+Maybe even Christine Grace or some of these other people that are in the fringes of trying to paint this, you know, million different reasons why the MRNA didn't work in a million different ways when we can approve it.
+
+01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:36.000
+I think they're also very much circling around this one. Let me just back it up again and make sure I'm on to this the right way.
+
+01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:56.000
+So the manufacturing process as it stands right now is pretty much akin to how they make an RNA infectious clone of coronaviruses. They're going to make a DNA construct of the spike protein sequence.
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+01:56:57.000 --> 01:57:04.000
+They're going to make lots of copies of that DNA construct in a fermentation process, which is growing in bacteria.
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+01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:13.000
+Then they're going to convert that DNA after removing it from the bacteria through lysis. They're going to take that DNA and convert it into RNA.
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+01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:16.000
+Now that process is imperfect.
+
+01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:23.000
+That process will require purification after it's converted because the DNA doesn't get destroyed. It's still there.
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+01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:39.000
+And this imperfect process is where supposedly the smear of RNA comes from because you don't get the same perfect full translation in that industrial processing of DNA to RNA.
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+01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:56.000
+And so this imperfect process can be improved if we were to print every RNA in a printing process, which we also know how to do, but we're limited by the length that we can produce in those processes.
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+01:57:56.000 --> 01:58:10.000
+So as we optimize those RNA printing processes, we can greatly increase the purity of the RNA construct that we're throwing into the lipid nanoparticle or throwing into the transfection agent.
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+01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:15.000
+And so that's another place for improvement.
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+01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:26.000
+And so again, they're trying to show you that this was done just poorly. There's a million different shortfalls here, so we shouldn't write off transfection.
+
+01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:36.000
+But Mike already told you that if you're expressing a foreign protein in your own cells, your immune system will kill it and that risks autoimmunity.
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+01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:48.000
+And that's the best case scenario where the lipid nanoparticle isn't toxic, where the RNA expressing the protein isn't toxic, where it eventually goes away.
+
+01:58:48.000 --> 01:59:04.000
+And so all of these things, all of these things that they're waving their hands about lipid nanoparticle spike protein, whatever whatever whatever are on top of the incredible downsides of perfectly working transfection,
+
+01:59:04.000 --> 01:59:14.000
+which is completely inappropriate to augment the healthy immune system of any mammal.
+
+01:59:14.000 --> 01:59:32.000
+So as we're getting as we get to the weeds here, this is stuff that we've been sort of messing around with Dr. Victor and I for a while, which is that just to just to throw a few things out, there's the issue of plasmids and what they're doing with the RNA particles and the protein particles.
+
+01:59:32.000 --> 01:59:47.000
+As well as Sashilatapova is concerned about the different lot sizes and purity and now we have a study out of Denmark showing that 4% of the vaccine lost lots were responsible for 60% of the adverse events.
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+01:59:47.000 --> 01:59:55.000
+So that was something came out just a couple weeks ago in a verified journal and they had been publishing it.
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+01:59:56.000 --> 02:00:14.000
+I was at the scene of the accident, the person who did the work originally as a British light called Craig party Cooper, Craig party Cooper, and Sashilatapova and Mike even saw this and we made a beeline for him and that's how Sashil, Mike and Craig met.
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+02:00:14.000 --> 02:00:25.000
+It doesn't make any contribution to the analysis except to say you cannot be tolerable that we have this degree of batch to batch variation.
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+02:00:25.000 --> 02:00:43.000
+I remember saying so that's very interesting that Sashilatapova is so interestingly connected to Mike Eden that actually Sasha and Mike contacted Craig party Cooper, who was the guy in the UK who was working on the lot story.
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+02:00:43.000 --> 02:00:51.000
+Because Sasha was on my stream a long time ago, right after that happened, Sasha was glad to be on my stream and I think she would be on my stream again.
+
+02:00:51.000 --> 02:01:11.000
+And what an interesting character Sasha is because she's been around in the United States since the early 90s, she's had a few companies, one of which was doing a way of measuring heart signals
+
+02:01:11.000 --> 02:01:33.000
+are very important in clinical trials and so this was a way, a company that was devising a device or an algorithm which would discern cautionary or alarming or indicative heart signals in pharmaceutical trials.
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+02:01:33.000 --> 02:01:47.000
+And so it was an interesting niche product that was actually purchased by Pfizer as I understand it correctly and Mark could correct me if I'm wrong on that one if he's still in the chat.
+
+02:01:47.000 --> 02:01:54.000
+So it's an interesting mention here and again remember that Mike Eden was on everyone's radar.
+
+02:01:54.000 --> 02:02:06.000
+Like what were we going to do about Mike Eden was a serious concern in 2020 more than anyone else on the earth, I think, because Wolfgang Wodach already knew what would happen if he didn't shut up.
+
+02:02:06.000 --> 02:02:12.000
+But Mike Eden was a new guy on the scene that didn't seem to know when to stop.
+
+02:02:12.000 --> 02:02:20.000
+Yes, I'm very curious as to whether Craig Particoper and Sasha La Topova.
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+02:02:20.000 --> 02:02:36.000
+I'm hoping that they're genuinely good people and that they're mixed up with Mike Eden because they got into that very early but I can imagine where one or more of those people is actually somehow playing
+
+02:02:36.000 --> 02:02:45.000
+the role of the narrative getting control of Michael getting control of me with this narrative of lots and how lots need to be followed so we chase that down.
+
+02:02:45.000 --> 02:02:49.000
+And we look for hot lots and not hot lots.
+
+02:02:49.000 --> 02:02:53.000
+And so then we're not realizing that there was no spread.
+
+02:02:53.000 --> 02:03:04.000
+And we're not realizing that the PCR doesn't work because we're spending all of our time looking for hot lots and and placebo lots, which may be real.
+
+02:03:04.000 --> 02:03:11.000
+But arguing about that doesn't get us out of the cage at all. And that's what worries me about that story.
+
+02:03:11.000 --> 02:03:25.000
+People that one thing pharmaceutical companies do extraordinarily well, if they run their whole process is they make consistent products. So if you get the same tablet in Singapore or Sarasota will be the same material.
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+02:03:25.000 --> 02:03:33.000
+And not if you've done it in a few months, not if it takes four years to do the R&D on manufacturing. So that I think is, I think that's a good thing.
+
+02:03:33.000 --> 02:03:40.000
+And that might be one of the only things that they can get Mike to say, which is reasonable from the perspective of his experience.
+
+02:03:40.000 --> 02:03:51.000
+And it's somehow at least cursorily contributing to the sustaining of the Scooby-Doo provided these other two actors play their part.
+
+02:03:51.000 --> 02:04:01.000
+And so again, if it's three on two and the consensus is in this video is that there was a virus and we had to do something, but what we did wasn't very good.
+
+02:04:01.000 --> 02:04:04.000
+I think the consensus is pretty much there.
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+02:04:04.000 --> 02:04:14.000
+I mean, I think that Mike even has different ideas on certain things, but the effect of this video is extraordinarily different than the video with Steve Kirsch.
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+02:04:14.000 --> 02:04:26.000
+Because of how we keep bouncing back to the statements where you say things like, I didn't know that the spike protein was toxic back in 2020.
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+02:04:26.000 --> 02:04:29.000
+That's an enchantment.
+
+02:04:29.000 --> 02:04:44.000
+That's an enchantment by saying you didn't know something back in 2020 puts the assumption in that you and I know it now, but I didn't know it back then.
+
+02:04:44.000 --> 02:04:46.000
+And that's the enchantment.
+
+02:04:46.000 --> 02:04:48.000
+That kind of language is the enchantment.
+
+02:04:48.000 --> 02:04:53.000
+I don't know if that qualifies as neurolinguistic programming, but that's how they do it.
+
+02:04:53.000 --> 02:04:56.000
+Their statements have embedded assumptions in them.
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+02:04:56.000 --> 02:05:07.000
+And in order for you to argue or to come back against that assumption, you kind of have to correct their statement, which isn't a very fun way to contribute to a conversation.
+
+02:05:07.000 --> 02:05:09.000
+It's an awkward way.
+
+02:05:09.000 --> 02:05:11.000
+If you have to correct your host.
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+02:05:11.000 --> 02:05:16.000
+Well, I don't agree with what you just said, but okay.
+
+02:05:16.000 --> 02:05:19.000
+It's magic to me.
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+02:05:20.000 --> 02:05:22.000
+It's not an excuse.
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+02:05:22.000 --> 02:05:27.000
+It might be an explanation, but it means they knew the variation occurred.
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+02:05:27.000 --> 02:05:33.000
+They have access manufacturers have access to the same VA era status that you and I have.
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+02:05:33.000 --> 02:05:37.000
+That means by March 2021, they knew it was all over the place.
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+02:05:37.000 --> 02:05:38.000
+They knew it.
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+02:05:38.000 --> 02:05:46.000
+I think it's very likely that they did this on purpose because if they knew that this was a toxic thing, then the more variation they could throw out there the better.
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+02:05:47.000 --> 02:05:58.000
+I would go so far as to say that putting graphene oxide in a few bottles is also a good idea because as long as there's a whole world of bottles that don't have graphene oxide in them.
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+02:05:58.000 --> 02:06:02.000
+It's really easy to debunk that story.
+
+02:06:02.000 --> 02:06:08.000
+And so again, placebo lots make it so that everybody that came to my CVS was fine.
+
+02:06:08.000 --> 02:06:10.000
+I didn't hear of anything bad.
+
+02:06:10.000 --> 02:06:13.000
+No one ever passed out here.
+
+02:06:13.000 --> 02:06:17.000
+And then you can have another place where every 15th person is passing out.
+
+02:06:17.000 --> 02:06:35.000
+But all we know because that contributes to the illusion where there's stuff to chase around and mysteries to solve that have nothing to do with you realizing there ain't nothing spread around that a PCR test is accurately tracking.
+
+02:06:35.000 --> 02:06:37.000
+And that's what that's really all about.
+
+02:06:37.000 --> 02:06:51.000
+And if that lot's story is true, which I think it probably is the idea that we're going to be able to accurately track it down and that that somehow is going to be the smoking gun that's going to end this is so wrong.
+
+02:06:51.000 --> 02:06:54.000
+It's wrong.
+
+02:06:54.000 --> 02:06:57.000
+What did they do?
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+02:06:57.000 --> 02:06:59.000
+Nothing.
+
+02:07:00.000 --> 02:07:07.000
+One of the arguments I've made, Dr. Aiden from the beginning of all this to again to lay people, you know, right now I'm talking to scientists.
+
+02:07:07.000 --> 02:07:10.000
+Are they both saying Dr. Yaden?
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+02:07:10.000 --> 02:07:28.000
+I feel like I keep hearing Dr. Yaden with, you know, the three of us being scientists who have varied experience in this. But when I'm talking to lay people, I said from the beginning, does it occur to you that there are a heck of a lot of viruses out there for which scientists have never been able to create
+
+02:07:28.000 --> 02:07:46.000
+a safe and effective vaccine viruses like Oh, I don't know herpes, kaksaki virus, norovirus, lot of viruses out there that have been around that we have really tried to crack the code on and haven't been able to vaccinate against what makes you think that they could
+
+02:07:47.000 --> 02:07:57.000
+do this hairball in a matter of months for something, you know, and say, Oh, here's something and it's not only we're going to use it on everybody and it's totally safe and effective.
+
+02:07:57.000 --> 02:08:02.000
+Roll up your sleeve. I mean, it was just preposterous.
+
+02:08:03.000 --> 02:08:18.000
+Nobody had been to the South Pole until someone did it, right? Would you have been really shocked or would you think it was normal if after 100 years of trying to get to the South Pole or climate, the top of the earth is for guys arrived on the same afternoon.
+
+02:08:18.000 --> 02:08:30.000
+Right. So for companies succeeded in making within a few weeks of each other for companies, notionally independent, all tapped up with their safe and effective show.
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+02:08:30.000 --> 02:08:33.000
+I just think it was the whole thing was being to me.
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+02:08:33.000 --> 02:08:48.000
+I agree. I do want to go back to something else just before I forget we were talking about the pregnancy issue, which was huge for me the idea that we were we have never in the history of medicine, given a drug or a therapeutic to a group of people on
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+02:08:49.000 --> 02:09:03.000
+whom it has not been tested. Never. We don't do that. That's one of the that's a sacrosanct construct in medicine. And if it hasn't been tested on that group, we just that's a red line. Okay.
+
+02:09:03.000 --> 02:09:19.000
+The talking heads are annoying, but you understand what they are. This is a group of people that you're sitting with and anything that they agree on potentially becomes an ash conformity enchantment on you.
+
+02:09:19.000 --> 02:09:38.000
+So anything that Dr. Drew and Kelly victory can make it seem like Mike Eden agrees with regard to the novel virus that spread around the world for which we had to do something, which the mRNA might have worked if we had chosen a different protein or not used in LNP.
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+02:09:38.000 --> 02:09:44.000
+And that there will be gain of function coming again, which they haven't touched yet.
+
+02:09:45.000 --> 02:09:49.000
+Every time they can get Mike Eden to seem like he's agreeing with one of those premises.
+
+02:09:49.000 --> 02:09:57.000
+They get a free pizza or something. I don't know what they get, but they get something that's the design of this.
+
+02:09:57.000 --> 02:10:10.000
+And we'll throw in some spike protein, you know, supplements, and we'll throw in some bone meal powder and and we'll come back to the spike protein and I didn't know that that was toxic in 2020.
+
+02:10:11.000 --> 02:10:19.000
+And like I know, it is now a little neuro linguistic programming and then we'll get back to the faith again.
+
+02:10:19.000 --> 02:10:37.000
+You studies that were done on animals. It is my understanding that the mouse studies that were done that almost 100% of the mice, the fetuses that were aborted from vaccinated mice had skeletal anomalies.
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+02:10:37.000 --> 02:10:46.000
+They had rib abnormalities. Is that you? That is so they had skeletal. Go ahead.
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+02:10:46.000 --> 02:10:52.000
+No, you're exactly right. Two things. One, you would not administer to pregnant women.
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+02:10:52.000 --> 02:10:59.000
+You would need reproductive toxicology complete. And not only that, you would need to have a clean profile.
+
+02:10:59.000 --> 02:11:11.000
+So it's not just a matter of mechanically living. If no look here, some skeletal malformations, let's those pregnant women. So if you observed in test animals, some points of concern, you would give it a.
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+02:11:11.000 --> 02:11:18.000
+I can't remember the letters, but you would say pregnancy, category X, and on certain letters, you never ever administer its pregnant women.
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+02:11:18.000 --> 02:11:29.000
+And even women of child-bearing potential, you say, if I could speak to you, I'm going to ask you to use highly effective means of contraception because of this risk.
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+02:11:29.000 --> 02:11:32.000
+And that's the cash register that belonged to them.
+
+02:11:32.000 --> 02:11:38.000
+Yeah, I can tell you, I went to Duke Universe. That's the first time anyone's ever said it that well.
+
+02:11:38.000 --> 02:11:48.000
+To actually, you'd need a clean record. You don't just have to do animal studies and look at the babies and report the results.
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+02:11:48.000 --> 02:11:57.000
+You need to do extensive animal studies where when you look at the babies and they grow up, they're freaking normal.
+
+02:11:57.000 --> 02:12:06.000
+Clean reproductive studies. Otherwise, you would label it as for pregnancy capital X.
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+02:12:07.000 --> 02:12:23.000
+Today for undergrad, a huge medical center there. And it was always very irritating to me that the guys could constantly, they could sign up and make extra cash on the side to be a subject in lots and lots of different drug and therapy experiments.
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+02:12:24.000 --> 02:12:37.000
+And I, because I was a female, just because I was of child-bearing age and potential, was not able to sign up for any of them. So they'd get, you know, $1,000 for participating in this drug study or $500 for doing this.
+
+02:12:37.000 --> 02:12:53.000
+And that's because every female of any age is already carrying her ovaries full of the, the ovum that she is going to eventually ovulate.
+
+02:12:53.000 --> 02:13:04.000
+And so I mean, I don't know when that's actually true. I mean, it may be not be true at four years old, but when you're an adult woman, you have all the eggs in you that you're going to release over your lifetime.
+
+02:13:04.000 --> 02:13:18.000
+And so you can potentially ruin those, those eggs that are waiting in your ovaries already. It's not a joke. This is not some kind of game that we're playing here.
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+02:13:19.000 --> 02:13:31.000
+And as she described, so many clinical trials are just done on men for this reason alone, because the potential is all there.
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+02:13:31.000 --> 02:13:44.000
+And there's no way for us to know that that's not going to happen because it's a purity thing. And it's a, and it's a, it's a complexity thing.
+
+02:13:44.000 --> 02:13:51.000
+Starting from the smallest portion of the complexity, and then it's going to explode.
+
+02:13:51.000 --> 02:14:02.000
+And so if you, if you mess it up here, then what it explodes into will be catastrophic.
+
+02:14:02.000 --> 02:14:07.000
+You know, it might just miscarriage. I mean, that's, that's how that works.
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+02:14:07.000 --> 02:14:12.000
+That's no more babies anymore when those ovum are damaged.
+
+02:14:12.000 --> 02:14:25.000
+And that's what she's talking about here. And this is legit. This is legit. This is a nice discussion. But again, we're interspersed with, with things about the virus and about the spike protein and about infection.
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+02:14:25.000 --> 02:14:41.000
+And, and it's, it's annoying. And, and we were interrupted with a, with an advertisement about the spike protein and about how the spike protein from the virus and the spike protein from the shot stays in the body.
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+02:14:41.000 --> 02:14:47.000
+And causes problems in this video.
+
+02:14:47.000 --> 02:14:56.000
+And so you can see again why it's still on YouTube. It's on YouTube because they have paid sufficient homage to the faith.
+
+02:14:56.000 --> 02:15:08.000
+You know, therapy, because they were young, healthy males in those, but as the females, we were not even allowed to sign up because of the potential that we could be pregnant.
+
+02:15:08.000 --> 02:15:17.000
+I mean, this is that is how what a red line that is normally and why that was breached here, I think is absolutely unconscionable. It's immoral. It's unethical.
+
+02:15:17.000 --> 02:15:20.000
+And we need to get to the bottom of it.
+
+02:15:20.000 --> 02:15:34.000
+I'm watching as the time clock winds down here. One of the things I really want to talk with you about because you have been perhaps more than, more than most others, egregiously censored.
+
+02:15:34.000 --> 02:15:43.000
+You have been shut down. You just said you can't even give us a social media place to find you because you've been deplatformed.
+
+02:15:43.000 --> 02:15:54.000
+Talk a little bit just about from your experience with that and what you think it portends for the future of medicine and health care and open discourse.
+
+02:15:54.000 --> 02:16:05.000
+Yeah, it's science. I wanted to be a scientist since I was a little boy and I had a whole career in science and it's only asked pretty much after I retired.
+
+02:16:05.000 --> 02:16:18.000
+You know, I was doing a little like consulting that I realized that lots of things are not what I had understood them to be. I feel almost embarrassed that I didn't know these things that degree of corruption, not just in pharmaceuticals but in regulatory
+
+02:16:19.000 --> 02:16:34.000
+and even in peer reviewed journal articles that basically you can only get published if you if you're what you're saying is in line broadly with that with going with the grain of a particular journal's ethos.
+
+02:16:35.000 --> 02:16:48.000
+And as soon as you're in this position as all of us are here, you have a position that's critical of the dominant narrative on my word you the door is closed on your fingers so fast you don't even get a chance to have a discussion.
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+02:16:49.000 --> 02:17:08.000
+If that continues, ladies and gentlemen, my, my fields and I'm only a, I only use part of it. My field, investigative biological science is dead on its beats. If you can't have people on up with challenging hypotheses, because, look, if I'm wrong, I do not mind being proved
+
+02:17:09.000 --> 02:17:21.000
+wrong in public. I apologize, but I'm not wrong. I called out the toxicities of these products before any of them had emotions. You saw authorizations myself and a German doctor called Wolfgang Bodag.
+
+02:17:21.000 --> 02:17:32.000
+We produced writing about three weeks before the first one had had authorization. I saw that. I saw that. And that's the reason why I knew I was right. But I did it because I didn't have the guts to say it really.
+
+02:17:33.000 --> 02:17:44.000
+My stream and I saw him saying if I write down the panel and I did, I was fired within weeks from every other consultant I had. Mr. Sparkle.
+
+02:17:44.000 --> 02:18:01.000
+So, but I want, if I may, I, I, so I believe what's happened is that there were 25 years of planning tabletop simulations of pandemics. So that eventually this thing, whatever it actually was, when that occurred, the world,
+
+02:18:01.000 --> 02:18:18.000
+nice and neatly followed the plan that it rehearsed for 25 years. That's definitely occurred. It's a military, civilian, international group have been doing this for ages. And I don't think it's legitimate. I don't think pandemics are even.
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+02:18:18.000 --> 02:18:28.000
+I don't think they are the threat that they say they are, which is why we haven't had very many. And some of the ones we've had have been a little suspect, shall we say. So, on the one hand, you've got that.
+
+02:18:28.000 --> 02:18:35.000
+Why in the world would you do that? I'm afraid you need to give me two minutes to say why I think this is happening.
+
+02:18:35.000 --> 02:18:51.000
+Well, this is, this is scary. I think this, this episode starting in 2020 is never going to end unless enough to wake up and say to help with it. You know, we're not, we're not going to comply with this nonsense anymore.
+
+02:18:51.000 --> 02:19:02.000
+And I think what's happening here is, if we continue, we're going to end up all of us carrying digital ID. You know, you might think digital ID is no big deal. Let me have digital passports.
+
+02:19:02.000 --> 02:19:14.000
+But no, there's something coming and it's definitely coming. That's different. So first, your passport is 190 different formats in the world. There isn't one format.
+
+02:19:14.000 --> 02:19:30.000
+What is coming now globally is a single format digital ID. Second, it will be what's called inter-operable. When you, when your ID pings the system, not only can it make a decision as to whether to allow you to enter a door or buy a product.
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+02:19:30.000 --> 02:19:40.000
+But it can make a mark on that digital ID and edits it. That's not true of any idea at the moment. That's called inter-operability, global format. And here's the worst part.
+
+02:19:40.000 --> 02:19:50.000
+It contains all of you, your health data, your unique ID data, your financial data, your driving history, where you live, what you've bought.
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+02:19:50.000 --> 02:20:00.000
+Basically, it's a QR code that takes you to a website called might even likely. And that is what, that is what is coming down the pipe for us.
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+02:20:00.000 --> 02:20:08.000
+If you don't believe me, then I'm just going to paint a picture as to why it's the last important decision for humans ever going to make.
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+02:20:09.000 --> 02:20:19.000
+And I'm going to refuse it, even though it may exclude me from banking, for example. I don't need digital ID. You don't need digital ID evidence for that. My last 63 years of my life.
+
+02:20:19.000 --> 02:20:26.000
+They need you to have it. The people who have run this pandemic. What else? What are they going to do with this?
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+02:20:26.000 --> 02:20:38.000
+The other two things that are coming down the pipe are the gradual erosion of cash. All of you who are listening to me will be able to see that cash is getting harder to obtain and harder to use.
+
+02:20:38.000 --> 02:20:49.000
+And lots of supermarkets are getting rid of humans, so it's owning a machine. And I promise you, as it's happening in France and the UK where I live, they're abolishing the checkout assistance.
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+02:20:49.000 --> 02:21:01.000
+You'll only better pay with a bank card or an app, no cash. And finally, you can check this out. All central banks are toying with what's called central bank digital currencies.
+
+02:21:01.000 --> 02:21:08.000
+You will want with the central bank in your country. So now let me give you a scenario. You walk up to the shop.
+
+02:21:08.000 --> 02:21:19.000
+And you're required to keep your digital ID. So because we're moving into what has been described as the zero trust world. These are not my words. These are their words zero trust worlds.
+
+02:21:19.000 --> 02:21:31.000
+So you need to prove who you are every moment. You wave your ID. If they've decided, because I've said banking from social media, they're not going to admit me to food stores. The door will not open.
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+02:21:32.000 --> 02:21:42.000
+This is how bad it is. Let's say they let me in the store. And I've had a stake yesterday, and I go to the butcher's counter and I pick up some meat and I go to the automated check app.
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+02:21:42.000 --> 02:21:50.000
+The computer in the sky checks and says, you've already had eight ounces of steak, nothing for you. And when I try and pay for it, the money won't pay for it.
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+02:21:50.000 --> 02:22:00.000
+Or if they say, here's something or frighten you, because this has happened in Britain, lockdown, climate lockdown for being mooted. It's absurd, but they are.
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+02:22:00.000 --> 02:22:12.000
+If they say to you may not move more than five miles from your wrench and address, and you are six miles from home and go into a store, and you attempt to buy a bottle of water or a sandwich.
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+02:22:12.000 --> 02:22:24.000
+Your central bank digital currency and digital ID will prevent that transaction occurring. That's what is coming for us. So when they say, oh, you need a digital ID so you can prove who you are.
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+02:22:24.000 --> 02:22:34.000
+Tell them to, you know, insert it somewhere else. You do not need digital ID. They need you to have this. That's the control mechanism. No soup for you.
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+02:22:34.000 --> 02:22:47.000
+Digital ID. You should have said no soup for you. And cash, CBDC. That's it. And then finally, I believe this is what's going to happen. I wish it didn't. And I pray to God I'm wrong.
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+02:22:48.000 --> 02:22:53.000
+I think that the third dimension of this is the population.
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+02:22:53.000 --> 02:23:00.000
+Why? Because there's been lots of things that have happened in the last three and a half years that have actively increased the amount of injuries and deaths.
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+02:23:00.000 --> 02:23:06.000
+And that's upsetting for people to hear that, but I am very sure of this and I'm not the only person saying it.
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+02:23:07.000 --> 02:23:16.000
+And I pointed out to you as an experienced pharmacy school searcher that the design of these mRNA based vaccines are inherently dangerous.
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+02:23:16.000 --> 02:23:23.000
+What I can tell you is the companies and the governments have said they're so happy with the performance of these products.
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+02:23:23.000 --> 02:23:31.000
+They are busy building factories to manufacture billions of doses of them around every constant on the world.
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+02:23:31.000 --> 02:23:35.000
+So what I think they're going to do is you'll have your digital ID.
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+02:23:35.000 --> 02:23:44.000
+If you're unwise enough to sign up for it, no cash and any central bank digital currencies, the WHO will tell you there's a pandemic.
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+02:23:44.000 --> 02:23:50.000
+You remember they're looking for these powers right now. They'll say there's a pandemic. That's their job.
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+02:23:50.000 --> 02:23:56.000
+Pharmaceutical companies will cook up the mRNA. Inversion comes vaccine appropriate.
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+02:23:56.000 --> 02:24:02.000
+And then that's their part. And then the government will tell you you have to have the job to keep your digital ID valid.
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+02:24:02.000 --> 02:24:14.000
+And I think most people will turn up and get the job. And I think over a period of years, the people running this can trim the population to any number they like with plausible deniability.
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+02:24:14.000 --> 02:24:18.000
+So if I'm wrong, don't take a digital ID because then it can't happen, can it?
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+02:24:18.000 --> 02:24:22.000
+So never let them take cash away because then this can't happen, can it?
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+02:24:22.000 --> 02:24:31.000
+So those two things, any government that tries to take cash away from you and forces you to identify yourself digitally is a criminal government.
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+02:24:31.000 --> 02:24:36.000
+I would advise you to do what Jefferson Dayless said.
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+02:24:36.000 --> 02:24:45.000
+You have the right to amend or abolish a government that injures the purposes for which you established to serve.
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+02:24:45.000 --> 02:24:50.000
+I read that this morning, and I'm an English guy resonated with me.
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+02:24:50.000 --> 02:24:51.000
+Yeah.
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+02:24:51.000 --> 02:25:05.000
+Well, I, it's sobering sobering words. I will, I will certainly say, I fear that you are on the right when we look, for example, Nigel Farage, and for those who don't know him, you know, he's, you know, I think of as Mr Brexit.
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+02:25:05.000 --> 02:25:10.000
+In the UK, it's my understanding that his bank accounts were shut down.
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+02:25:10.000 --> 02:25:22.000
+He was essentially shut down and kicked out of his bank. And if you can't bank, if you have no way to keep, nowhere to keep your, your cash, you are really disenfranchised from society.
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+02:25:22.000 --> 02:25:32.000
+And he clearly was as being punished for his viewpoints, which go against the narrative of the government. So I don't think what you're saying is so far fetched.
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+02:25:32.000 --> 02:25:48.000
+I have also said from the beginning that I believe that the entire purpose of this pandemic was to make mRNA a household word, to make people believe that it is safe and effective and well trusted and totally well tested and just sort of standard stuff.
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+02:25:48.000 --> 02:26:03.000
+Because how, and they were very successful at it, by the way, we have, you know, think about the number of people in this country, certainly in the United States, who wouldn't dream of eating a genetically modified tomato, you know, or giving their kid a non organic carrot.
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+02:26:03.000 --> 02:26:11.000
+Yet they were there rolling up their sleeve. Oh, please, you know, I'll have another on something that's barely been tested. It's insanity.
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+02:26:12.000 --> 02:26:29.000
+But if they were successful in making people believe that this is tried and true and well tested that and they're now putting it into the food source mRNA is into the food sources we know that they're looking at non injectable ways to get it to you aerosolizing it, taking it orally.
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+02:26:30.000 --> 02:26:37.000
+They intend to move this platform forward. Is that your, your thought?
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+02:26:37.000 --> 02:26:58.000
+The doctor victory. I have explained as a biologist of almost 40 years since I started training. The things I've told you about the induction of a non self protein in your body and your immune system recognizing that as inappropriate and attacking and killing every cell that expresses that tells you, ladies and gentlemen,
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+02:26:58.000 --> 02:27:09.000
+that whatever else you're being told, you should not accept genetic based injections that will make your body manufacture something that doesn't belong there.
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+02:27:09.000 --> 02:27:14.000
+It's inherently dangerous. All of them will be inherently dangerous. I promise you.
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+02:27:14.000 --> 02:27:21.000
+I want to go back to your warnings. The warnings about the digital health idea, whatever we call it.
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+02:27:21.000 --> 02:27:33.000
+There is already a pressure point people can turn to if they want to do something to reduce the risk of all that happening. The World Health Organization is on an active campaign for an international treaty or whatever they're calling it.
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+02:27:33.000 --> 02:27:50.000
+And in addition to everything you said, which is in that treaty, they also want to make human life essentially equivalent or of equal value as any other organism on the planet and geology.
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+02:27:50.000 --> 02:28:02.000
+And geology itself. So if some geological phenomenon is being challenged, your life may not at least has equal valence to a volcano or something.
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+02:28:02.000 --> 02:28:19.000
+They have very very odd stuff in there. But really what they're going for with that is they're going to use it to mandate climate behavior and how they're going to get that sort of under control.
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+02:28:19.000 --> 02:28:30.000
+So to speak, but talk to your government officials about this treaty. Do not let them sign this treaty. Do not let the country. You elected your officials. These are not elected officials.
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+02:28:30.000 --> 02:28:38.000
+They're granting themselves fiat authority over your duly elected officials that should never ever happen.
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+02:28:38.000 --> 02:28:48.000
+Why don't we say let's elect somebody that makes a digital currency or a digital ID illegal?
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+02:28:48.000 --> 02:29:05.000
+Why doesn't anyone ever propose the idea that we should have leaders and elect leaders who are against digital ID and against medical records sharing and medical record databases that are not anonymized or whatever.
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+02:29:05.000 --> 02:29:14.000
+But let's why don't we organize against it instead of making it a thing. Well, we're just going to opt out. No, I'm not criticizing Mike.
+
+02:29:14.000 --> 02:29:25.000
+I'm just talking about what he's saying and the talking points he's saying and whether there can be anything improved here because I'm curious as to whether there's a better answer.
+
+02:29:25.000 --> 02:29:35.000
+Then let's do Chris Martinson style. Everybody get a get a solar powered super farm and we'll just check out for a decade.
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+02:29:35.000 --> 02:29:51.000
+I don't think that's a realistic way or proposed way of acting for somebody who lives in the in the city of Chicago or the city of New York or the city of Houston or the city of Dallas city of Seattle.
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+02:29:52.000 --> 02:30:00.000
+All of these big cities, even the city of Pittsburgh, there are people that it's not realistic for them to go, you know, get chickens and whatever.
+
+02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:05.000
+Just check out for a decade. Become self sufficient.
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+02:30:05.000 --> 02:30:12.000
+You know, get some silver and gold and start trading like that with a barter system. That's not really realistic.
+
+02:30:13.000 --> 02:30:29.000
+I guess it's realistic if you have all the money in the world and you could just go buy a three million dollar farm in the middle of West Virginia and then invest in all of the amenities necessary and, you know, maybe generate some electricity from a local creek or something.
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+02:30:29.000 --> 02:30:38.000
+I mean, I guess if you have all the resources and you can just choose to check out. Yeah, I guess that would be a great idea.
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+02:30:39.000 --> 02:30:48.000
+But I don't think that's a realistic solution from the perspective of going forward, like just don't take a digital ID because they're going to make it necessary here.
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+02:30:48.000 --> 02:30:56.000
+You know that real ideas coming to the entire United States in 2024 because that law was already on the book 10 years ago.
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+02:30:56.000 --> 02:31:07.000
+And so you're going to have a chip in your driver's license. It looks exactly like the chip in your in your credit card or the one maybe that's in your passport.
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+02:31:07.000 --> 02:31:19.000
+And that thing is capable of storing data. And as Mike Eden said, it will just code for a website that's on the government database that is the life of Mike Eden.
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+02:31:20.000 --> 02:31:24.000
+That's how they're that's the plan here.
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+02:31:24.000 --> 02:31:35.000
+And so we're actually going to have to elect people that understand that's the plan and want to actively go against it. That's the solution in my humble opinion.
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+02:31:36.000 --> 02:31:52.000
+No, I think you're absolutely right. I think I've come to the conclusion that that COVID is entirely a fraud supported by propaganda and a very bad clinical diagnostic called PCR, which I know quite a lot about it.
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+02:31:52.000 --> 02:32:02.000
+So I won't I won't use up too much time on that. By the way, I've got I've got a test for your audience. You might think this guy is a little crazy.
+
+02:32:03.000 --> 02:32:10.000
+But here's the here's the point. I think search like a search engine is a kind of generic.
+
+02:32:10.000 --> 02:32:17.000
+Here he's going to tell about how if you use a search engine, you can see that he's heavily censored and I think that that's correct.
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+02:32:17.000 --> 02:32:24.000
+Is it true that is it true that that.
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+02:32:25.000 --> 02:32:33.000
+Catherine Austin fits was on Goodman and and Colin. If that's true, I think I need to find that's that show. That sounds interesting.
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+02:32:33.000 --> 02:32:45.000
+Not a good sign. Why don't you search after this program and use the word doctor Mike Eden, put it in Safari, put it in Google and just take a little glance at what what comes back.
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+02:32:45.000 --> 02:32:47.000
+Then go then go and look at some.
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+02:32:47.000 --> 02:32:58.000
+Caleb did that. Oh, yes. I actually I actually have this prepared because it was so egregious whenever you search your name, look at the top results that come up immediately.
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+02:32:58.000 --> 02:33:07.000
+Every single result here portrays you as if you are an anti-vax hero and completely skips everything else legitimate that you've done all of these listings.
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+02:33:07.000 --> 02:33:16.000
+And in fact, if someone if someone was to click on, let's say that's listed profile over in the corner over here where it says, you know, under your name profiles for Twitter over here.
+
+02:33:16.000 --> 02:33:26.000
+What that links to is a fake profile that isn't even you. That's just attacking you. It's a profile is this to me is this is ridiculous.
+
+02:33:27.000 --> 02:33:38.000
+It's never what you say. It's always what everybody says you said. It's never what you say. This is the insanity of the present moment and the press is the most egregious perpetrator.
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+02:33:38.000 --> 02:33:48.000
+They're ground zero for this. Social media is trolling and whatever, but it's the press that takes what you said and twist it and then that goes viral.
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+02:33:49.000 --> 02:34:00.000
+You are so right. And the point is, I'm not a very important person. I was like an just about early retired guy. What made me unique is that I could see what was happening was wrong.
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+02:34:00.000 --> 02:34:04.000
+And I have the courage to stand up and say no. And that may be.
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+02:34:04.000 --> 02:34:14.000
+And you're willing to be wrong yourself, by the way, you said repeatedly that you could be wrong, which fine. You could be wrong.
+
+02:34:14.000 --> 02:34:24.000
+When I was growing up, I'm the, I'm the daughter of an attorney. When I was growing up, the concepts, the legal concepts of libel and slander actually meant something.
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+02:34:24.000 --> 02:34:32.000
+Now they are meaning. They are absolutely one of my father. Whirling in his grave. They, they were absolutely meaningless.
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+02:34:33.000 --> 02:34:43.000
+I had myself a hit job and absolutely slanderous, libelous, baseless hit job written about me by Quackwatch. I don't know if you're familiar with Quackwatch.
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+02:34:43.000 --> 02:34:54.000
+It's run. Oh, yes. It's run by a defrocked 90 year old psychiatrist, but they can post anything and people will continue to.
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+02:34:55.000 --> 02:35:10.000
+Once it's posted and in print, it becomes de facto truth. It becomes a de facto evidence that you are this thing. And they will then use that to, you know, character assassinate you or to otherwise disregard anything you have to say.
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+02:35:11.000 --> 02:35:38.000
+I want to add something. So thank you very much, team for checking that out. But here's the vital thing. Here's the vital thing. If you search the same doctor might be using minority search engines. I, I don't own any stock in them, but there's one called Yandex, Y-A-N-D-E-X, and another one called Moji, M-O-J-W-E-K. And I picked them up because I asked friends, what are tiny search engines?
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+02:35:38.000 --> 02:35:47.000
+And I figured, I figured that the perpetrators, that's why I call the people running this. I don't care where they are. I call them perpetrators. They won't have messed with those.
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+02:35:47.000 --> 02:35:57.000
+If you search Dr. M even in those minority ones, you'll find some of the 150 interviews I have given, and you will also find my 50 publications.
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+02:35:58.000 --> 02:36:08.000
+You will find a write-up by a former Pfizer board member about me in 2017. Lord in my achievements with Zyarko.
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+02:36:08.000 --> 02:36:18.000
+Former, the former board member, John Latina, John Latina was head of R&D when I was there, and he wrote me up in Forbes magazine in 2017.
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+02:36:18.000 --> 02:36:24.000
+And because he said, what you've done is remarkable. And yeah, we worked hard and we got lucky.
+
+02:36:24.000 --> 02:36:33.000
+But he was remarkable. But no one knows that. They think I'm a conspiracy theorist, and they think, worst of all, what upsets me more is they think I'm a lousy scientist.
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+02:36:33.000 --> 02:36:44.000
+I was a good scientist. I did all right. And so search me on minority search engines for the real Dr. Mike Eden, and also some of the interviews I've given.
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+02:36:44.000 --> 02:36:51.000
+If you like some of what you've heard, however terrifying, and you want to know more, that's the better answer to your questions.
+
+02:36:51.000 --> 02:37:14.000
+And so what I think they're doing when they change the subject to, sorry, wrong camera, when they change the subject to censorship, what they're doing is basically sending you a subliminal message that other people who were censored are equally credible as Mike Eden.
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+02:37:14.000 --> 02:37:27.000
+And so remember that earlier in this stream, Kelly victory actually said the lies that my government told me out loud, even though she wasn't really referring to Robert Malone's book.
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+02:37:27.000 --> 02:37:34.000
+And then in the next sentence, she said something about not knowing the spike protein was toxic in 2020.
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+02:37:35.000 --> 02:37:48.000
+And here, when they make the statement about about censorship, the argument that they want you to think is that the more censored you are, the more likely it is that you were right.
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+02:37:48.000 --> 02:37:53.000
+So Mike Eden is an example of somebody who's very censored. And so he must have been pretty right.
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+02:37:53.000 --> 02:38:02.000
+But we've confused that throughout this whole show. And if you made it all the way to one hour and 15 minutes, you might have heard something useful.
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+02:38:02.000 --> 02:38:13.000
+But before that, this consensus that was, that was on display here, the consensus was the two out of the three people agree that there's a virus.
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+02:38:13.000 --> 02:38:23.000
+Two out of the three people think that the whole thing was rushed. Two out of the three people think that the spike protein is significantly bad choice.
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+02:38:24.000 --> 02:38:29.000
+Two out of the three people think that this virus is novel.
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+02:38:29.000 --> 02:38:41.000
+And only one of them thinks that pandemics aren't really possible. And so just that lack of consensus is enough for the enchantment not to be broken.
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+02:38:42.000 --> 02:38:54.000
+That appearance of consensus between these two is enough for his message to not be effective as it was when he was with with Steve Kirsch.
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+02:38:54.000 --> 02:39:03.000
+And I think that's why that video that I did the other day is so important because that video captured Mike Eden without interruption.
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+02:39:03.000 --> 02:39:25.000
+And with one steady stream, like a jazz musician, instead of somebody who's trying to trade solos with, with musicians that he's never played before, with before, and trying to change solos with somebody who's really wants to play coal train when Mike Eden is trying to play something completely different.
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+02:39:25.000 --> 02:39:36.000
+And so if you see it for what it is, which is I knew what it would be, it is a very different interview than the one with Steve Kirsch.
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+02:39:36.000 --> 02:39:48.000
+And how different it is. It is very extraordinary because again, there are people whose job it is to keep it on narrative. That means never questioning the novel virus.
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+02:39:48.000 --> 02:39:55.000
+Never question that we had to do something. Never question that what we did was rushed and many mistakes were made.
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+02:39:55.000 --> 02:40:05.000
+And never question the idea that this might be a lab leak that we might be responsible for it. Maybe we shifted off to China. Maybe they did it.
+
+02:40:05.000 --> 02:40:10.000
+But oh my goodness, it sure seems like a bunch of governments are involved.
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+02:40:10.000 --> 02:40:14.000
+And maybe even the who tried to do their best.
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+Extraordinary.
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+02:40:17.000 --> 02:40:22.000
+And then I would say, if you find very different hits on what is really a commodity search.
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+02:40:22.000 --> 02:40:31.000
+I would say that's 100% proof. Someone is messing with the major search engines. And why? So you don't find out what I really think.
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+02:40:31.000 --> 02:40:36.000
+Why would they do that? Because I'm getting the truth.
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+02:40:36.000 --> 02:40:47.000
+The military adage. I've used the military adage, Dr. Hayden, many, many times you always take the most flack when you are directly over the target.
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+02:40:47.000 --> 02:40:56.000
+They don't go after people who are missing the target. Trust me. So I'm cognizant of the time and how late it is there. So we're going to let you go.
+
+02:40:56.000 --> 02:41:05.000
+But I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you being here. You have been unbelievably courageous throughout this. Do not lose. Do not lose faith.
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+02:41:05.000 --> 02:41:12.000
+There are many of us out there who support you and the brilliant work you've done for the duration of this pandemic and before.
+
+02:41:13.000 --> 02:41:24.000
+I thought a lot about speaking out or not. And I thought, if I'm right, I'm in as much danger if I don't speak out or more danger if I don't speak out.
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+So people who think bad things will happen to me if I speak out, ladies and gentlemen, think what will happen if you don't speak out.
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+Seriously. But all we need to do to stop this is have enough of us say to hell with you. And I don't know what percentage it is 10%. It's not many.
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+02:41:42.000 --> 02:41:51.000
+And so I don't think I'm much risk. And in the end, you have to live your life, you know, aligned to the light, telling the truth.
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+02:41:51.000 --> 02:42:00.000
+And I'm delighted to say it was nothing to do with my scientific research. But along the way, I have, I've been re touched by face and it's delightful.
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+You know, because the work on the other side of the fence is so bad that I remember one evening, I came to the conclusion, it was satanic. And I think at the same moment, I realized I had allowed myself to fall out of out of contact with the creator.
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+And that my life's been a lot less a sense.
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+02:42:20.000 --> 02:42:34.000
+Well, there is a there is a distinct and seem to be worshipping, believing animals. And if they don't worship and believe something true and good, they will worship things that are false and bad.
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+02:42:34.000 --> 02:42:49.000
+And I think we're in this weird phase right now. We need to take a good look at ourselves. And, you know, the mob, the narcissism, the delusional thinking, it's just like nothing I've ever imagined.
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+But I guess we've been through periods of history like this before, and we shall God willing emerge again.
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+02:42:56.000 --> 02:43:08.000
+Thank you for being here. We appreciate it. We'll let you go to bed now. I know it's like 11 or 10 or 11 o'clock out there. So it's a little late. I apologize.
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+I'm going to see you tomorrow and three o'clock Pacific. I apologize for keeping you up so late. And I don't know what happened with the video crashing or something struck my computer.
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+02:43:23.000 --> 02:43:28.000
+So I might just delete that first video. I'll see you in the morning. What's going on?
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+02:43:28.000 --> 02:43:37.000
+But again, thanks for joining me. I don't know how many days this is in a row, but we're just going to keep it going and see how many days in a row we can get.
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+02:43:37.000 --> 02:43:45.000
+Let me know in the comments or maybe tomorrow we'll have a contest to see who gets it right. How many days in a row we've got?
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+02:43:45.000 --> 02:43:55.000
+But it's going to be a lot more than this. So just hold tight. I'll see you guys tomorrow. I don't know if it'll be a night or in the afternoon. Look quick.
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+Oh no, I'm going to do one in the afternoon tomorrow. I think I'm scheduled for eight to ten, but I'm going to change that. It'll probably be around four twenty in the afternoon tomorrow.
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+And it'll be a throwback Thursday. I think we're going to watch the old Malone video. I think I might also watch a German video about all the pre-dynamic planning and gaming that they did over the years, but might save that.
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+I might be going back. I don't know. Throwback Thursday tomorrow. See you guys. Thanks for joining me.
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+Thanks for joining me.
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+It was quite a plot, you kids, uncovered.
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+Who would have suspected masters of dog-napping his own pet?
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+He decided to win the dog show by dog-napping the only three dogs
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+who could beat Big Red.
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+Then Big Red was to turn up just before the show and win first prize.
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+You said something about a phantom Indian on horseback. What about that?
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+Simple. He used a movie projector from the back of his truck.
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+Look, Jeronimo! He's back again!
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+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is Gigong Biological.
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+It's a high-resistance low-noise information brought to you by a biologist.
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+It's the 14th of September, September, 2023.
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+That means it's throwback Thursday.
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+You'll notice these last few slides aren't changing in a while.
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+It's because we're pretty solid on track here.
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+Lots of people are starting to come to understand the pandemic as one great big Scooby Doo.
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+And I think it's a really apt description of what's going on.
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+Thank you very much for joining me. This is Gigong Biological High-Resistance Low Noise Information Brief brought to you by a biologist.
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+My name is Jonathan Cooey, and this is going to be a little quick throwback Thursday hour
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+where I want to review a German video from 2021.
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+It should kind of help you not take the bait on TV and social media.
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+There's just a lot of that going on right now.
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+And so I just want to be sure that we all...
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+Oh, I almost made that work.
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+Then we're all on the same page here.
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+You know, Sesame Street and PBS NewsHour are now making coloring sheets where the bravery bandage is there
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+in order to invite children to color this page to celebrate getting vaccinated.
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+There's not a whole hell of a lot we can do about this aspect of things at this moment.
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+Other than to highlight the absurdity of such a coloring page.
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+But be aware that it's there and be aware of...
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+well, how seductive these kinds of things are.
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+I think I'm going to try and go getvaccineanswers.org and see what's to be found there.
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+So a few people or many people, lots of people inside and outside of government,
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+inside and outside of industry, inside and outside of social media have changed the way we think.
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+And it is the kind of lemming, herd mentality, conformist fear of speaking out that happens.
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+The larger the group gets that social media has now sort of replaced with a fake feeling of consensus.
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+And that fake feeling of consensus has been weaponized against us to make us think that certain things are really smart to think about.
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+And certain kinds of simplifications and certain kinds of over complications are normal.
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+And we accept them because other people on TV accept them.
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+And as a result, they've been able to change our minds about our own biology.
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+They've changed our minds about our vulnerability to respiratory viruses and why we might be vulnerable.
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+They've changed our idea of why we all die every year, why there's 3 million people to die every year in America.
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+They've changed the way we think about our own immune response to disease and kind of inverted it on his head to make us think exclusively about antibodies
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+when there are a whole host of other autonomous cells that fight viral and pathological infection as well.
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+And then they change the way we think about immunization and vaccination and how that is achieved, how immunity is achieved through these two methodologies.
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+And this suite of changes was able to be achieved largely through the application of pressure, coercion and fear.
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+And that caused doctors to change their behavior.
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+It caused teachers to change their behavior and school boards and businesses and lawyers and people inside of the government and police officers and EMTs and everyone.
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+And that resulted in millions of people dying for the wrong reason, maybe not even for a good reason, not a legitimate one, but a mistake.
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+And so this is why it's a crime, this is why we have to investigate it because maybe hundreds of thousands of people were improperly treated, maybe even millions.
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+And even on the small possibility that that's true, we need to back the truck up and figure out what's going on.
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+And I believe that there are a lot of people again on TV and on social media and in the spotlight and behind the scenes that are working against the possibility that it will become common knowledge that a pandemic isn't really biologically possible.
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+And that the only way an RNA sequence can show up in so many places at once in the world is as if it would put their insufficient quantity.
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+Otherwise, it's just not possible. And that's really where this whole story starts and ends.
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+And by controlling the discussion about the possibilities underlying the biology of the pandemic, i.e. what are the causes?
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+What is the root cause of the pandemic? By controlling that debate very carefully from the very beginning, like the first day, that's how we got here.
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+And we grossly underestimate, underestimated, especially in 2020, the extent to which they would go to control both sides of the narrative.
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+And so a lot of the people that came out quite early in the pandemic are actually people that are unwittingly were involved in controlling that narrative that slowly evolved from a natural virus to a lab leak, eventually to a gain of function virus that was a lab leak.
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+And this slow escalation of the severity of the story, the severity of the potential has actually worked perfectly in concert with the intended the intended plan to put more pressure on people to accept the countermeasures
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+and to accept the idea that something bad happened and potentially it could be much worse next time.
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+And now what I find such an interesting pattern here is that the people that have really questioned this narrative in all of its best forms,
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+those people are largely marginalized and don't really gain much recognition relative to the people who have largely been on the side of this gain of function laboratory leak and the idea that it could come again and the idea that maybe the shots are screwed up because they were rushed, but we can fix them next time.
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+That seems to be largely this what everybody in the red triangle thinks only people in the yellow have questioned more than the shot have questioned the novelty of the virus have questioned the sanctity of vaccine induced immunity have questioned the the primacy of of antibody based immunity.
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+These people have been marginalized and for the most part cast out now as we have pushed forward over the course of these last three years.
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+Some of these people have been have been absorbing some aspects of the skeptical narrative in the middle here where the protocols are still a question where spread is a question where variants are questioned those are not anything that anyone over here has really absorbed significantly.
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+But just a little bit now has been absorbed some of the the the really true objections they're always going to be able to morph a little bit over here.
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+And so that's what this is all about a controlled narrative and having people on both sides that you can trust that you know are not going to cross any big lines of the faith which is the novel virus we had to do something.
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+The mRNA was rushed but it could have been better and it's since it was gained a function it could come again.
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+And so I don't have to tell you that the the pandemic potential of bat caves that's accessible through cell culture and accessible through animal passage and also can be even enhanced by genetic manipulation is a suite of mythologies that has been laid down over the last
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+couple decades with the overarching plan of using this mythology as an excuse for us to surrender our rights and invert from human rights to human permissions.
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+And that's what the Scooby-Doo is about because again you're solving the mystery you think you solve the mystery everybody right now on TV and social media to the most part thinks that the lab leak is kind of a conclusion that everybody should come to because after the last three years it's obvious that they covered it up.
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+Now I just want to point out here that the scenario that Dr. Giordano points out in his video is the idea that you see in a few sentinel cases and then you use the internet to claim asymptomatic transmission and then also you claim responsibility.
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+Yes, I'm a terrorist and I released this bio weapon on you but then the real weapon I use is the internet.
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+Right now the thing about that story and what's different about our story is that in that story he's telling a fictional story to a room of people who are in the military.
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+And so it's a terrorist organization trying to use a bio weapon to scare a country into fragmenting and not trusting its government anymore.
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+Now the scenario of seeding cases is very real but how would a national actor or a group of national actors come on to the scene and say that they may be involved in the virus in some way without saying that they're involved in the virus in some way.
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+Well, the way that they would do it is they'd say first it's natural and then they would be caught in a cover up which is essentially like a whistleblower that comes out and says,
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+Hey, I found a grant proposal and so it is basically the same story.
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+We have a few seated cases of high fidelity likely clone generated sequences that are all the same from lots of different places in the world and those viruses don't change very much for the first six months because they originated from a clone.
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+And then at some moment the PCR is not picking up that signal anymore but in fact is being used all over the world where that signal could have never gotten and picking up background coronavirus and over cycling of the PCR made that even worse.
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+And so then here we are signaling a spreading virus went over only a very small portion of it ever had that sequence only a very small portion of it could have ever really been part of the original thing and none of it could have possibly been generated
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+by a point release in Wuhan because then the virus that went to Italy would have been different forever from the virus that went to Africa or North America and that sequence would have never been Delta everywhere,
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+Omicron everywhere or anything like that.
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+That's not even remotely possible.
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+That's the worst part of the narrative on television.
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+And so the only way that this works the only way that it really makes sense is if there was a background signal and then there was the release of a clone to trigger the molecular signal around the world that you know some molecular biologists could call each other up and say
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+we got a new one over here too and it's the same, I think it's the same sequence as yours.
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+Wow, really?
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+So is mine.
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+Wow, really ours is the same too, which is just not possible.
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+And the only remotely close example we have of that is SARS-1.
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+The only data set we have from that is Alina Chan and that data set's not published but it clearly showed that the SARS-1 virus was changing at a much higher rate
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+at the beginning when it first came out than this one ever achieved.
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+And so how is that really possible?
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+Well, it's only possible if we're looking at a background stable signal that's being, let's say, it's being misconstrued as spread.
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+So if there is SARS virus in the background everywhere, then everywhere we sequence, we'd expect to find different ones.
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+And so all they need to do is just tell us some story about a phylogeny, some story about change.
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+And every time they want to make it serious, they can pick one that looks serious.
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+It's just not a genuine tale of high fidelity molecular biology mystery solving.
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+That's not what's happening on the gen-set database or whatever it's called.
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+It's a carefully curated, probably, library of nonsense.
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+And that's the unfortunate part is there are just some people who are going to be spectacularly committed to the lie.
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+And have you believe that before the pandemic, we only had a few hundred, maybe even 50, full sequences of a coronavirus.
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+And now, since we put our mind to it, we have several hundred thousand sequences of a coronavirus and a very detailed phylogeny of its evolution over the last three years.
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+That in no way compares to any other phylogeny that we've ever measured in nature because we've never been able to do that before.
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+And with the only one that we could have kind of done it with, we only got a few hundred sequences that show a speed of change, five orders of magnitude higher than this one, five times as much as this one.
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+It's just incredible where we're at.
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+So yeah, they released this virus and then they let out people that could tell us the story about what happened, which eventually became some debate between nature and a lab leak.
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+And the truth is, is that with careful study and review, we've come to the conclusion that transfection is not immunization, that intramuscular injection is not a means of immunization.
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+And so let's get right up to it. The Paul Schreier Pandemic Simulation Games is our throwback Thursday.
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+I'm very excited about this because I think it's a really good video for us to share together.
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+So let's check it out.
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+Hello, my name is Paul Schreier. I'm a freelance journalist, author and co-editor of the magazine Multipolar.
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+Today, I would like to talk about occurrences connected to the corona pandemic.
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+The title of my talk, Pandemic Simulation Exercises Preparations for a New Age, indicates that it won't be about the present corona crisis, but about what has happened before.
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+Indeed, most interesting events have taken place, to be specific pandemic simulations.
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+The situation we are experiencing right now, the fear of a virus and ensuing measures that extremely restrict liberties, is exactly the situation that has been repeatedly and intensely trained and rehearsed in the past years, with all kinds of infectious disease simulations.
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+What I am going to present to you now, are not speculations, but well-recorded and documented facts.
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+I have chosen the subtitle Preparations for a New Age.
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+Well, many people are under the impression that a new era has begun with this crisis, and that it might not be a good era, but one in which democratic structures are dismantled, an age in which liberties are phased out, reduced and abolished.
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+With this talk, I would like to go some way towards a wider view, a more historical perspective.
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+Let me just briefly say a few words about the table of contents.
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+I will begin in the 1990s. Indeed, it was already in the 90s that we had the fight against terror as a political instrument.
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+Then I will present several bioterror simulation exercises.
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+After that, we will take a look at the very interesting lockstep scenario in 2010, and then investigate a few more recent pandemic simulation exercises that were executed during the Trump presidency.
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+My final topic are the events at the stock market in September 2019.
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+In my view, this is an interesting, a crucial topic, which you do not find in the book that I have written about this subject.
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+So, for all of you who have already read my book, this topic probably contains information which might be new for you.
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+Yes, a new era is beginning. What is the era that has come to an end?
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+Well, of course, it is the era of the Cold War, which has ended in 1990.
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+Let us briefly recall what kind of age it was.
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+As you all know, it was marked by the two superpowers confronting each other to Soviet Union on the one side and the US on the other.
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+Or to put it more generally, the Eastern Bloc and the Western Bloc facing each other.
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+Both were heavily armed with nuclear weapons and threatened each other with total annihilation.
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+That was the global situation from approximately 1945 until 1990.
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+It was a situation shaped by a lot of fears and great insecurity.
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+Many people were afraid of the threat of nuclear war.
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+Now, is it entirely crazy to think that they might not have had 5,000 nuclear warheads in the USSR aimed at us?
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+And we might not have had 3,000 warheads aimed at them.
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+That the Soviet Union might not have had enough warheads to destroy the Earth 8 times over and we didn't have enough to destroy it 5 times over.
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+But it was useful to tell that story, useful to tell that story in secret meetings, useful to tell that story on the second page of a newspaper or in the editorial.
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+Have you ever considered the possibility that even if we could make nuclear weapons that we wouldn't make thousands of them?
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+And yet somehow if you question the whole narrative possibility of nuclear weapons and whether they exist, it's not the same as questioning if they exist would we make thousands of them?
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+And could we make ones that are 10 times the size of the ones we used to have?
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+And if we could, why would we make them?
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+And so I think it's worth considering now that we're looking at the pandemic as a Scooby-Doo to think about how many other facts in history are actually kind of the same thing.
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+An exaggeration of what really happened in order to make sure that the mythology around that historical event or that series of historical events could be used to govern in the future.
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+I think it's really important point.
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+Which was an absolutely real possibility.
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+Several times an outbreak of a nuclear war was imminent.
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+1962 there was the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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+In the 80s as well there were a few highly precarious situations that might readily have escalated into a full-scale nuclear war, which was only prevented with a lot of luck at the last moment.
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+At least that's how we see it today.
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+So when you put the above in a wider historical context, that Cold War period was an absolutely crazy time with a threat so massive and existential.
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+But this period came to a close in 1990, symbolized by the fall of the Berlin Wall.
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+A great sigh of relief was felt all over the world.
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+The Soviet Union disintegrated, there was Glaznosten, Paris Troika, a process that had already begun in the second half of the 80s when reforms were initiated in Eastern Bloc countries that led to greater liberties.
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+People breath the size of relief.
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+With the sense of greater freedom, fears dissipated not only for the populace of former communist countries.
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+That was basically the attitude towards life from the 1990s onwards, not all over the world of course, but in great many parts of it, especially in the Eastern Bloc.
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+That period, however, did not please everyone.
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+There were influential groups of people that had a big problem with this kind of development, for example the military and the entire defense complex.
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+Because with the collapse of the USSR, the enemy was gone.
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+How could you now justify to maintain such an immense military budget?
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+Here we have the picture of an American aircraft carrier, which is the symbol par excellence for the security state and the military, the necessity of exercising power all over the world,
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+for which the military juggernaut and such weapon systems are needed.
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+How could that be justified from now on?
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+Well, I found a striking quote of Colin Powell from this period, who at that time was the highest military official of the US and thus the chief military advisor to the president.
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+Later he became Secretary of State.
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+In 1991, he said in a newspaper interview, with a slightly sarcastic undertone, but he certainly was serious, I'm running out of demons. I'm running out of villains.
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+I'm down to Castro and Kim Il-sung.
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+At the time, Castro was president of Cuba and Kim Il-sung, president of North Korea, thus referring to two of the few remaining communist countries that couldn't seriously serve as formidable enemies.
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+The countries were way too insignificant and much too weak in regards to their military force, so how could the US claim an earnest after 1990 that a strong military complex was still needed?
+
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+It wasn't that context and with that key problem that the fight against terror began in the 90s.
+
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+It truly was a historical turning point, symbolized by the change of political actors. President George Bush Sr. was succeeded by Bill Clinton.
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+Bush had been strongly influenced by the Cold War. It was not only as CIA director in the 70s that he could be called a cold warrior.
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+So that transition of power from Bush to Clinton steered up hope.
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+Yes, the election of Clinton was a sign of hope for many. He was not at all considered a hawk, but an open-minded young president who was inaugurated in January 1993.
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+Just a few weeks later, there was a terrorist attack on the World Trade Center in New York, with the Twin Towers still erect since this was long before 9-11.
+
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+The detonation in the underground car park of the North Tower, here a picture from February 1993, was the greatest ever terror attack in the history of the USA with 700 injured.
+
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+The car park was completely devastated.
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+The intention was to bring down those towers, a scheme that was ultimately accomplished in 2001.
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+The backers of this bombing are said to have been Islamists.
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+The next year President Clinton announced his national security strategy, something that per se was not that unusual.
+
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+Basically, almost every president releases ANS as report.
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+Clinton here specified his vision and explained where he intended to set his priorities.
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+I would like to quote from it, because it is quite interesting.
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+Clinton said that the Cold War may be over, but the need for American leadership abroad remains as strong as ever.
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+I am committed to forging a new public consensus to sustain our active engagement abroad.
+
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+Well, this is, so to speak, code language. You might be familiar with that kind of wording.
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+Active engagement abroad means nothing other than military interventions abroad or wars, just sugarcoating.
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+The crucial point here is that Clinton expresses the need for public consensus.
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+He makes clear that he desires consensus so that we can continue to use our military anywhere, which means this consensus did not exist at the time.
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+To the contrary, there were heated debates.
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+People said we want a peace DVD now. That was the cue.
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+We want the money that for decades was spent for armament, those funds should now be used for building our own national economy.
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+Our society should benefit. The defense budget should be reduced.
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+And indeed, in the 1990s, the budget was cut back because of public pressure.
+
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+So that was 1994, and now we get to 1995, or more specifically, March 95.
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+This is a picture of Joe Biden, now US President, who 25 years ago already had an important function as he headed the Senate Judiciary Committee.
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+Here he is pictured in the Senate introducing a law.
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+It was a law that should give more power to the president and in general to the executive branch in case of a major terror attack.
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+That law was met with great resistance at the time.
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+Looking into press archives, we can see that there was a passionate debate on that law.
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+We learned that influential civil liberties groups immediately went to the barricades and expressed that that was going too far.
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+No special powers for the president and the government. Everything should be democratically controlled.
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+We do not want that law. Great resistance.
+
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+A few weeks later, in April 95, another terrorist attack happened.
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+This time it was aimed at a federal building in Oklahoma City.
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+Since this was before 9-11, the attack was again the largest and deadliest single terrorist attack in US history.
+
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+Around 170 people died and roughly 1,000 were injured.
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+We can see that the damage is immense, a truck bomb with two tons of explosives.
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+It was a gigantic damage.
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+Public attention on the subject of terrorism skyrocketed with this attack and remained high for a long time afterwards.
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+This attack on the federal building in Oklahoma City truly was a milestone, a divide, a defining moment for the subject of terrorism.
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+Now the danger of terrorism was perceived differently. It attained new meaning.
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+There is a lot of secondary footage from the Oklahoma City bombing which indicated that there were several devices on the site.
+
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+A guy by the name of Ted Gunderson has been reporting for a very long time that actually you can't make an explosion like what was done there in the federal building where I just blew up one side of the street
+
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+and took down the whole face of that building.
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+He said it was some kind of device called the Pineapple Bomb which had some kind of directionality to it.
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+But anyway, already back in 1997 there was quite a good portion of the people that were reading understood that it was likely that whatever happened in Oklahoma City was being orchestrated and covered it up.
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+Timothy McVey wasn't some mastermind dude.
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+Certainly not somebody capable of doing that.
+
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+Writing this wave, the wave of terrorism so to speak, fears were fueled.
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+This year is a newspaper article from 1997. It was however not written by journalists but by politicians, namely the CIA director at the time, James Woolsey, and a very high Pentagon official.
+
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+The title of the article is Defend Against a Shadow Enemy.
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+The first sentence directly refers to the two great attacks which I just mentioned, to quote,
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+the destruction of the federal building in Oklahoma City and the bombing of the World Trade Center in New York shocked Americans.
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+But, and this is the pivotal point, those tragedies would have been far worse if nuclear, biological or chemical materials had been involved.
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+The authors further on in the article explain that the danger of chemical and biological weapons in the hands of terrorists is real and would be the most likely physical threat to the US homeland.
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+Great efforts need to be put in to guard against it.
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+This article is only one example of the media campaign at that time.
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+A lot of articles were actually published in this vein.
+
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+Now I would like to present you another example of the same year.
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+William Cohen, then Secretary of Defense, announced during a press conference here at the top on the agenda that chemical and biological weapons would be likely.
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+I really need you to see that this is so parallel to what Marco like has been teaching us and bringing to us on his show, which is that around the turn before the year 2000, there was this ongoing campaign to again pivot this threat from terrorism to bioterrorism and chemical and biological weapons.
+
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+And so here we are in 1997, William Cohen is already in front of the Pentagon talking about it.
+
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+I think William Cohen might be the guy who goes on ABC News and says that a flower bag size with a bag of flowers saying this much anthrax could kill a lot of people like a city or something.
+
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+The elements of future warfare and with that claim he justifies to put one billion dollar more into the defense budget within the next five years.
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+So you can see that from the beginning we are dealing with large sums of money, huge budgets justified by that.
+
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+In the same year William Cohen appeared before the press in quite a different manner as guest on a morning show.
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+That was not like a press briefing at the Pentagon, but a program where the viewers usually are not confronted with politics.
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+We sat there on the morning show holding up a five pound bag of sugar.
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+He said if Saddam Hussein sprayed an equivalent amount of anthrax over a city like Washington DC, at least half of the inhabitants would with one breath be sent into writhing death throes and probably die within five days.
+
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+There you go. I told you.
+
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+Most of the TV show were speechless and backed him to stop.
+
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+This TV appearance made waves in the press because the example had been so drastic.
+
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+It is quite clear. I can't help but identify such a statement as fear mongering or scare tactics.
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+It obviously was employed to trigger extreme fears.
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+People were talked into believing that they were in immediate mortal danger. That was the mood.
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+In the second half of the 90s, that kind of gloom was worked up more and more.
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+On the one side, a new threat was declared and debated.
+
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+On the other side, that self-same dangerous weaponry was being fabricated by U.S. facilities at one and the same time.
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+This is an interesting fact unbeknownst to me before I did research on this subject.
+
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+In 1997, highly questionable research into bio warfare agents was conducted in the U.S.
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+There was, for example, the covert CIA project Clear Vision, an effort to create a bacteria bomblet.
+
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+Project Jefferson of the Pentagon's DIA was aiming to reproduce a genetically modified strain of the anthrax bacterium.
+
+37:13.000 --> 37:20.000
+These laboratory studies of offensive biological weapons agents were conducted in absolute secrecy without any parliamentary control.
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+It was only in September 2001 that these doings were unveiled in a New York Times article.
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+There upon a press conference was convened.
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+The Pentagon claimed that it was mere defensively-minded research, which is of course quite nonsensical.
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+When bio warfare agents are created in secret, it's certainly not defensive research.
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+At that time, this man took center stage, Colonel Robert Cadlak, who had served as UN bio weapons inspector in the Iraq War in 1991.
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+He was one of the leading U.S. bio weapons experts, who in 1998, in an internal strategy paper of the Pentagon, wrote the following.
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+This quote was pointed out to me by my colleague Doug Pullman. It is remarkable and he serves closer attention.
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+Using biological weapons under the cover of an endemic or natural disease occurrence provides an attacker the potential for plausible denial.
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+Biological warfare's potential to create significant economic loss and subsequent political instability, coupled with plausible denial, exceeds the possibilities of any other known weapon.
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+The nyre-cram of loss and subsequent-
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+Do you hear this?
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+Using biological weapons under the cover of an endemic or natural disease occurrence provides an attacker the potential for plausible denial.
+
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+Biological warfare's potential to create significant economic loss and subsequent political instability, coupled with plausible denial, exceeds the possibilities of any other known weapon.
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+If you use a bio weapon that is able to be plausibly denied because it's also endemic, it's the best kind of bio weapon, says Robert Cadlak.
+
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+So if you had a background of coronaviruses and then you used a coronavirus to claim that there was a pandemic and then piggybacked on the background in order to cause the pandemic with PCR, do you see how easy it is to see how these subtle changes in the way that Robert Cadlak speaks or the way that the Giordano speaks?
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+That you can get really quickly toward a scenario where an absolutely harmless exosomic signal called coronaviruses that had been looked at as a possibility for a wide variety of biological tech applications has now suddenly become the central danger that mother nature presents to us
+
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+in an everlasting potential danger in the future because people can tweak them and then now we have Robert Cadlak saying in 1998 that the best one would be to have a virus that was also endemic so then you can kind of use it as an excuse.
+
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+And so you can already see them thinking about how can they use the endemic signal, how can they use an existing virus as a weapon?
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+And then you get somebody like Giordano or someone else who taught Giordano to come along and say, hey, we don't even need a weapon if we can convince people that what is out there represents the potential for danger.
+
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+So that if they just test positive for something, they might already take on the average, very dangerous treatments in order to avoid this hypothetical worst-case scenario outcome from this non-able thing that's actually just a signal in the background and they don't even know it.
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+I hear it perfectly.
+
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+Those sentences must be regarded within the historical context of the late 90s.
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+Robert Cadlak warns that enemies of the USA might use such bio-weapons against them.
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+When you read the paper carefully, however, you notice that the author on several occasions stresses the potential for plausible denier.
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+That makes you prick up your ears somewhat.
+
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+Right at that time, an institution was found at which today looms large given our situation.
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+I am referring to what today is called the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.
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+You probably have come across that name within the context of the corona crisis.
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+This institution has played a major role since vital data pertaining to corona are being compiled, displayed and analyzed on a global dashboard, which was developed in January 2020.
+
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+These data are disseminated by...
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+Actually, it was developed much earlier than that by a guy named John Cullen, right?
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+He used to work for some company that made that dashboard and so when he saw the dashboard and it was all read, he was like, wait a minute.
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+Media all over the world.
+
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+The center was founded in 1998 under another name, Center for Civilian Bio Defense Strategies, so we can see that name obviously still has a somewhat military ring to it.
+
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+Later, in terms of public image, the emphasis would be on health. The focus, though, has always been the same.
+
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+This center has organized a few very important and essential simulation exercises in the field of disaster response strategies.
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+I would like to go into this subject more in detail. It started in 1999.
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+The center came into being with the help of the Sloan Foundation, which was established by then-president of General Motors, Alfred Sloan.
+
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+The Sloan Foundation is a very large sponsor of the PBS NewsHour.
+
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+Who has died long since?
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+The Sloan Foundation managers have put many, many millions into these bioterror exercises.
+
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+So in 1999, just one year after establishing the center, a first conference was organized.
+
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+Many hundreds of participants from 10 countries met in Arlington, home to the Pentagon, were the capital directly across the Potomac, for a national symposium on medical and public health response to bioterrorism.
+
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+At this conference, problems arising in the wake of a bioterror attack were assessed and discussed.
+
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+It was a big event that February, 1999.
+
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+Here we have the organizing agency, the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Biodefence Strategies, in collaboration with the Department of Health and various other scientific organizations.
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+In the context of this conference, a simulation exercise took place for the first time.
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+It was the real-life replication of a smallpox terrorist attack in the U.S., where the resulting smallpox epidemic and a massive number of victims.
+
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+How could the situation be effectively addressed?
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+Just picture experts from various fields, sitting at a conference desk in a role play, acting as officials in different functions, talking to each other just as these people would communicate in such a crisis.
+
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+See them conduct a mock telephone conference coordinating strategic responses.
+
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+That kind of conference was acted out by who says what and who should decide what, where do conflicts and problems arise.
+
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+In the final report on the exercise, we find the following quotes.
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+How far can police go to detain current-time patients?
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+A consensus must be reached as how to proceed with the vaccinations.
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+Should martial law have been implemented?
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+How to control the message going to the public?
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+These kinds of questions were discussed there in 1999, questions that remind us obviously a lot of our present time.
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+One of the speakers there was Richard Clark, a high-level counter-terrorism advisor to the U.S. government, who emphasized the fact that, for the first time, the Department of Health,
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+is part of the national security apparatus of the United States.
+
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+Indeed, at that time, a new path was treated and that these public health issues were rendered military problems.
+
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+In itself, same year, 1999, the Pentagon continued its bio-weapons research.
+
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+What's the date there?
+
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+For example, Project Backos, a covert program in the desert of Nevada.
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+The goal was to find out whether it was possible for terrorists.
+
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+What's the date there?
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+New York Times, 4th of September, 2001.
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+Do you see?
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+I mean, it's really impressive. Mark has really stitched this up so well with regard to letting us see how maybe September 11th wasn't quite what we thought it was.
+
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+I don't know, but I'm interested to see what this guy, Paul Schreier, is going to frame September 11th as.
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+Program in the desert of Nevada.
+
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+The goal was to find out whether it was possible for terrorists to construct a small anthrax production facility by just using off-the-shelf equipment.
+
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+After a few months, the Pentagon specialists did actually succeed in reaching their goal and managed to produce a few pounds of anthrax.
+
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+It was only several years later that this Pentagon project was disclosed.
+
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+When we now assume evil purposes, the Pentagon here will develop the capability to perform a bioterror attack while claiming that it must have been the work of some terrorists since all necessary ingredients were readily available in the stores.
+
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+So let us note that this extremely dangerous skill was developed at that time right there on this military base in Nevada, where in former years nuclear weapons were tested.
+
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+Now in the 1990s, the base was used for bioweapons research, far from any settlement.
+
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+The pandemic simulation exercises went on.
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+Already by the next year, the second National Symposium on the response to bioterrorism took place at the same conference venue organized by the same institution.
+
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+The only difference was that this time the focal problem was not smallpox, but the plague.
+
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+This year is the original website of the event of the year 2000.
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+By the way, all the documents I have used are generally accessible on the Internet, so all quotations are verifiable since they are publicly available.
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+If you would like to investigate or subject yourself, you can find the documents quite easily.
+
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+It's not whistle-blower material.
+
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+So you can see here Margaret Hamburg, Thomas Inglesby, somebody we know still, Michael Ulsterholm, of course we know very well.
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+Tara O'Toole, we know her from, I think she's at the University of Pittsburgh, even if I recall correctly, or at least used to be.
+
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+That's quite a list, all the same show.
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+It's pretty impressive.
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+Hey, Eustonics in the chat, nice to see you buddy.
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+Plague.
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+This year is the original website of the event of the year 2000.
+
+48:54.000 --> 49:02.000
+By the way, all the documents I have used are generally accessible on the Internet, so all quotations are verifiable since they are publicly available.
+
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+If you would like to investigate or subject yourself, you can find the documents quite easily. It's not whistle-blower material.
+
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+Now I would like to quote a few sentences from the documents for this conference in the year 2000.
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+Decide of an armed military presence in U.S. cities has provoked protests about curtailment of civil liberties.
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+The question is, how do we enforce it and to what degree?
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+How much force do we use to keep people in their homes?
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+So these are the things that have been discussed and debated in these exercises by high-level officials 20 years ago.
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+Many of you might remember that at this time there were important presidential elections.
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+President Bush Jr. came into office in January 2001.
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+Here in this picture you see him with Vice President Dick Cheney, who was of high influence in that administration.
+
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+Shortly after the inauguration, the third big bioterrorism exercise took place.
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+It was called Dark Winter, and again it was a smallpox scenario.
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+Here this colorful page is the center's original website of 2001.
+
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+Yes, it is the original one.
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+Websites then were quite a bit more colorful and somewhat messy compared to today.
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+I did find it in an Internet archive.
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+Its sponsors are explicitly mentioned.
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+See here this long foundation and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.
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+This time the simulation exercise was professionalized.
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+The previous ones took place in conference rooms in hotels.
+
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+They were quite simple.
+
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+But in 2001 the venue of this event was a military base, Andrew's Air Force Base.
+
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+It's a large military base just a few miles from Washington D.C.
+
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+So the exercise was upgraded and was even given a name.
+
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+Dark Winter sounds like the title of a Hollywood movie.
+
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+It reminds of a marketing campaign for the whole topic.
+
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+The public relations aspect is visible.
+
+51:03.000 --> 51:06.000
+It was definitely meant to be made known to the public.
+
+51:06.000 --> 51:10.000
+Quite a number of articles were published about Dark Winter.
+
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+So let's take a look at who has taken part in this exercise.
+
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+Who were the key participants?
+
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+I could find a list of attendance among the original documents for this major infectious disease simulation exercise.
+
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+Margaret Hamburg.
+
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+Honorable David Gergen.
+
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+Sam Nunn.
+
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+Frank Weisner.
+
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+William Sessions.
+
+51:42.000 --> 51:45.000
+James Woosley, let's see.
+
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+If you are familiar with American politics at that time, many of these names will be known to you.
+
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+They were senior executives and reasonably high positions of power.
+
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+Here, for example, the role of the CIA director was played by James Woolsey, who, a few years ago, had actually held that position.
+
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+I let mention him before.
+
+52:05.000 --> 52:13.000
+Here, Frank Keating, a governor of Oklahoma, who, at the time of that infectious disease simulation, actually was serving as governor of Oklahoma.
+
+52:13.000 --> 52:18.000
+He held that position also while the mentioned Oklahoma City bombing occurred.
+
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+Similarly, the other positions were occupied by high-ranking officials.
+
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+You can truly say a full-scale national emergency was practiced.
+
+52:27.000 --> 52:34.000
+We are not dealing here with the middle management of authorities, but top-level operatives, who discussed strategies for such a scenario.
+
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+When you look at the documents for this simulation event, you can't but notice the role of the press.
+
+52:39.000 --> 52:49.000
+The media were a vital part of this exercise, and those who participated and played their part were not in any way minor journalists, but nationally known journalists.
+
+52:49.000 --> 52:55.000
+Therefore, example, we have the well-known Judith Miller of the New York Times, an expert on national security affairs.
+
+52:55.000 --> 53:00.000
+And here are a few representatives of major TV networks, NBC, CBS, and BBC.
+
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+This is a photograph from the exercise. We can see a mock press conference.
+
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+The politicians are announcing a state of emergency because of a bioterrorism attack on the U.S., this time the biological warfare agent is Smallpox.
+
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+A press conference is being conducted. The reporters ask questions and the politicians respond and note how the press reacts.
+
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+They develop skills to respond in an appropriate way, so they train the questions and responses thoroughly on a high level and learn their strategic lessons.
+
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+Isn't that what exercises are for?
+
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+It became obvious then that the U.S. were ill-prepared for a bioweapons attack.
+
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+The quantity of vaccine stockpiles was not sufficient.
+
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+Forcible constraints on citizens would likely be the only tools available when vaccine stocks were depleted.
+
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+So the conclusion was that civil liberties have to be restricted. That was in 2001.
+
+53:53.000 --> 54:07.000
+Here we come across Robert Cadillac again, the official who has written the above mentioned Pentagon's strategy paper suggesting that biological warfare agents would work well because they could be used under the cover of a natural epidemic and therefore plausible denial would be easy.
+
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+This Robert Cadillac participated at Exercise Dark Winter as an expert on bioterrorism.
+
+54:14.000 --> 54:17.000
+Here in this picture we see him appearing on a fictional news channel.
+
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+You should know that such simulation exercises provide as many details of reality as possible.
+
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+So on huge screens the participants watched fictional news reports that were produced beforehand.
+
+54:27.000 --> 54:38.000
+So bioterrorism expert Robert Cadillac appears on screen saying that there was a problem of insufficient stocks of vaccine and he adds that this means that a dark winter could be ahead in America.
+
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+A very dark winter. And as you know this is the name of the exercise.
+
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+When we now take a look at what became of that man we see in the year 2020, the year of the corona crisis Robert Cadillac resurfaces as one of the most important advisors to the government under Trump.
+
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+In this photo you see him at the lectern next to Vice President Mike Pence.
+
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+But now let's have a look at Joe Biden who just a few days after major US news outlets had declared him the winner of the presidential election said that the US was facing a dark winter.
+
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+He used exactly the same words. Coincidence?
+
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+I can't prove the connection to the exercise. You might call it Coincidence although you could also suspect that his choice of words was related to the exercise.
+
+55:23.000 --> 55:37.000
+Anyway, let's go back to 2001 now. We can read in the final script of the dark winter exercise that Americans can no longer take basic civil liberties such as freedom of assembly or travel for granted.
+
+55:37.000 --> 55:52.000
+So that was the third simulation exercise on the subject within a brief period of time. That was in June 2001 and just a few months later the September 11 attacks happened and the topic of terrorism is again pushed to a higher level.
+
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+9-11 was the day the terrorist threat was literally being brought home to everybody in the global community.
+
+55:59.000 --> 56:07.000
+For years the topic of terrorist threat has been engaging and informing the entire political debate.
+
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+A little later over the course of several weeks the so-called 2001 anthrax attacks happened.
+
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+Letters containing a fine white powder laced with spores of the bacterium bacillus anthracis were sent to several news media offices and to those two senators, Patrick Lee and Tom Daschle.
+
+56:27.000 --> 56:34.000
+Daschle served as US Senate Majority Leader and Lee shared the Senate Judiciary Committee.
+
+56:34.000 --> 56:38.000
+Both were critical of the legal changes proposed after the 9-11 attacks.
+
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+See the controversial Patriot Act which led to constitutional infringements on civil liberties by expanding the government's surveillance powers.
+
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+Like for example the NSA's warrantless wiretapping at home and abroad and using broad data mining systems.
+
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+They felt it was necessary to discuss and carefully weigh each case of legal change.
+
+57:03.000 --> 57:07.000
+So in this situation these two senators received anthrax letters.
+
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+To this day it is not clear who was responsible for those attacks.
+
+57:11.000 --> 57:17.000
+First bin Laden and al-Qaeda were the supposed culprits, then Iraq's Saddam Hussein was blamed.
+
+57:17.000 --> 57:18.000
+There's a...
+
+57:18.000 --> 57:19.000
+Nothing came of it.
+
+57:19.000 --> 57:24.000
+Finally a mentally fragile scientist of a US bio-defense laboratory was in the focus.
+
+57:24.000 --> 57:36.000
+So I hope you remember that you need to go to his satanic lives sub-stack and read about all the reasons why one Robert Malone might actually have a pretty good idea of who did it also stay.
+
+57:36.000 --> 57:40.000
+Who did it also Steven Hatfield might have a pretty good idea of who did it.
+
+57:40.000 --> 57:44.000
+Maybe Sina Bovari has some idea who did it.
+
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+It probably wasn't this mentally fragile US scientist who maybe stole a notebook from some girl that Robert Malone used to know ten years earlier and then decided to kill himself.
+
+58:00.000 --> 58:03.000
+This allegation proved to be wrong too.
+
+58:03.000 --> 58:05.000
+Many different stories are circulating.
+
+58:05.000 --> 58:09.000
+To date doubts exist about the FBI's conclusions.
+
+58:09.000 --> 58:12.000
+But to come back to the two menaced senators.
+
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+We can imagine that if you send a letter containing highly dangerous Patogans to a politician,
+
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+it is clear that the person addressed is not endangered since he or she of course has employees to open the mail,
+
+58:23.000 --> 58:30.000
+which means that whoever had planned the attack did not intend to kill the politician in question but only to intimidate.
+
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+There are other ways to kill inconvenient individuals.
+
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+They say it was just a signal that a certain red line should not be crossed.
+
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+These two senators were merely meant to be intimidated.
+
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+I do not know how they assessed the threat but it is a fact that right after having received those letters,
+
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+they stopped opposing the disputed legal changes and the laws were passed.
+
+58:53.000 --> 59:02.000
+Something interesting occurred in November 2001 immediately after the Antrex scare.
+
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+On the initiative of the American government, a new international organization was founded
+
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+called Global Health Security Initiative because it was deemed necessary.
+
+59:17.000 --> 59:21.000
+The reasoning for founding this organization was the Antrex scare,
+
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+which was a major topic all over the world at that time.
+
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+It was emphasized that every government was in immediate danger.
+
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+Osama bin Laden or Saddam Hussein might ship this deadly Patogane in letters to each and every country.
+
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+We now need to unite and jointly take action.
+
+59:40.000 --> 59:45.000
+So this organization was founded in November 2001.
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+The participating countries are symbolized by flex.
+
+59:48.000 --> 59:54.000
+Here is Canada, the EU, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Great Britain, USA
+
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+and finally the WHO as technical advisor.
+
+01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.000
+This group of countries more or less are the G8,
+
+01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:09.000
+the most influential industrial nations of the West, complemented by Mexico.
+
+01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:14.000
+From then on, senior officials and health ministers of those countries regularly came together
+
+01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:18.000
+or sent high-level representatives and discussed the topic of bioterrorism
+
+01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:21.000
+in order to coordinate with each other.
+
+01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:28.000
+In 2002, the matter was taken one crucial step further.
+
+01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:33.000
+The group declared that emergency planning for bioterrorism is quite similar
+
+01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:36.000
+to that foreign influenza pandemic.
+
+01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:41.000
+So from 2002 on, both scenarios were exercised and prepared for.
+
+01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:45.000
+It must not necessarily be the danger of a bioterror attack,
+
+01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:50.000
+but it could just be a dangerous influenza virus spreading in a natural way.
+
+01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:56.000
+It was concluded that such a case would be just as perilous and needed to be prepared for.
+
+01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:02.000
+From pandemic preparedness on an international level means being able to globally coordinate
+
+01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:05.000
+the implementation of measures for such a scenario.
+
+01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:11.000
+A strategic planning group for an influenza pandemic was led by Great Britain and the U.S.
+
+01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:16.000
+From then on, this series of exercises were not only taking place in the USA
+
+01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:19.000
+but were coordinated internationally.
+
+01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.000
+Wow!
+
+01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:24.000
+Twenty years they prepared!
+
+01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:30.000
+The first one was called Global Mercury and convened in 2003.
+
+01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:35.000
+This is a chart from the Robert Koch Institute taken from the post-exercise report.
+
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+The players are the European Union as an entity and then France, Germany, Italy, Japan,
+
+01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:45.000
+Mexico, Great Britain, the USA, the WHO and Canada.
+
+01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:50.000
+See here at the top the exercise planning group, the director and the higher control staff
+
+01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:53.000
+who planned and designed the exercise.
+
+01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:57.000
+This time Germany participated too, represented by the Robert Koch Institute.
+
+01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.000
+It was an elaborate exercise stretching over several days.
+
+01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:09.000
+Either you participate and get on board or when this happens you'll be left behind.
+
+01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:17.000
+Get on board and participate or when this actually goes down you'll be left behind.
+
+01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:26.000
+I think a lot of countries may have been offered a very similar heads you in, tails you lose kind of thing or whatever.
+
+01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:29.000
+Many hundreds of people participated.
+
+01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:33.000
+In those years there was a whole series of such exercises.
+
+01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:38.000
+An important one, convened in the year 2005, was called Atlantic Storm.
+
+01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:44.000
+Here at the speaker's desk, former Secretary of State Madeline Albright, who played the US President.
+
+01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:48.000
+In the post-exercise report we can read the following key questions.
+
+01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:53.000
+How should national leaders determine measures such as border closure or current time?
+
+01:02:54.000 --> 01:03:00.000
+If actions are taken to restrict the movement of people for how long would restrictions have to be maintained,
+
+01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:05.000
+how would they be coordinated internationally and how would the decision be made to lift them?
+
+01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:14.000
+This is exactly the same kind of questions that are being discussed worldwide right now in 2020
+
+01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:19.000
+and which have already been debated intensely on a very high level during that exercise.
+
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+I'd like to show you now two of the players who were politicians.
+
+01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:32.000
+Werner Huier of the German FDP, a classical liberal political party, and Bernard Cushney of France,
+
+01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:38.000
+then Secretary of Health. Later he became Minister of Foreign Affairs, so he was part of the French government.
+
+01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:44.000
+At the time of the exercise he was a candidate for the position of Director-General of the WHO,
+
+01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.000
+thus he was an important senior official in this field at the time.
+
+01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:50.000
+He acted a part of the French President.
+
+01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:55.000
+Next to him, Werner Huier, a former German Assistant Secretary of Foreign Affairs.
+
+01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:58.000
+He played the role of the Chancellor of Germany.
+
+01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:08.000
+So, the representatives of these countries were all individuals who have had former governmental responsibility
+
+01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:10.000
+or were currently in key positions.
+
+01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:13.000
+After the exercise Werner Huier remarked,
+
+01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:17.000
+for someone who has been around in a security and defense field for many years,
+
+01:04:17.000 --> 01:04:21.000
+this was quite a surprising and breathtaking exercise.
+
+01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:26.000
+This is something I think a very small minority of politicians in Europe are aware of.
+
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+I have presented you quite a few of these simulation exercises,
+
+01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:39.000
+and by now you probably recognize common patterns.
+
+01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:43.000
+So, let me at this point draw a brief interim conclusion.
+
+01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:47.000
+The basic premise of every one of these scenarios was a public health emergency
+
+01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:52.000
+with ensuing questions about the decision-making process and competences.
+
+01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:56.000
+But they also involved declaring a state of emergency,
+
+01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:59.000
+implementing authoritarian leadership, bypassing parliament
+
+01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:04.000
+and investing certain federal officials with augmented decision-making power,
+
+01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:10.000
+while also suspending fundamental civil rights and effectuating plans to vaccinate the population.
+
+01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:16.000
+What strikes me as particularly noteworthy is the ready suspension of basic human rights
+
+01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:19.000
+when responding to a pandemic or a bioterror attack,
+
+01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:23.000
+because that is not necessarily a logical consequence.
+
+01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:28.000
+Observing all of this, the question arises that maybe such exercises might have served
+
+01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:32.000
+as a cover and testing ground for a state of emergency and checking out
+
+01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:35.000
+how such a political situation could be handled.
+
+01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:40.000
+At least this is my personal thing.
+
+01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:44.000
+I really like his interpretation, so I'm just going to go back a few sentences
+
+01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.000
+and let him say it again.
+
+01:05:46.000 --> 01:06:02.000
+So, let me draw a point, brief interim conclusions.
+
+01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:06.000
+Let me at this point draw a brief interim conclusion.
+
+01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:11.000
+The basic premise of every one of these scenarios was a public health emergency
+
+01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:15.000
+with ensuing questions about the decision-making process and competences.
+
+01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:21.000
+But they also involved declaring a state of emergency, implementing authoritarian leadership,
+
+01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:27.000
+bypassing parliament and investing certain federal officials with augmented decision-making power,
+
+01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:33.000
+while also suspending fundamental civil rights and effectuating plans to vaccinate the population.
+
+01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:39.000
+What strikes me as particularly noteworthy is the ready suspension of basic human rights
+
+01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:42.000
+when responding to a pandemic or a bioterror attack,
+
+01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:46.000
+because that is not necessarily a logical consequence.
+
+01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:51.000
+Observing all of this, the question arises that maybe such exercises might have served
+
+01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:55.000
+as a cover and testing ground for a state of emergency and checking out
+
+01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:59.000
+how such a political situation could be handled.
+
+01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:04.000
+At least this is my personal impression.
+
+01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:13.000
+Well, then, soon, the financial crisis of 2007 and 2008 happened,
+
+01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:18.000
+and the topic of pandemic exercises was pushed a little to the background on the international stage.
+
+01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:24.000
+Then, in the spring of 2009, when its impact had a devastating effect on world economy,
+
+01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.000
+another pandemic came around the corner to put it casually.
+
+01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:33.000
+So, when the H1N1 flew, also called Swine Flu, emerged and nobody quite knew
+
+01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:37.000
+what could come of it, this gentleman here said something very interesting.
+
+01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:41.000
+He is probably not known to everybody, but in France he is prominent.
+
+01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:46.000
+His name is Jacques Ataly, who many decades has had the function of special advice
+
+01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:51.000
+and French politics, counseling several presidents, most of all Francois Mitteror,
+
+01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:55.000
+for whom he had also worked as so-called Sharpa, preparing G8 summits.
+
+01:07:55.000 --> 01:08:00.000
+So, Ataly has moved in the circles of French power elites for a very long time
+
+01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:04.000
+and has exerted substantial influence as an avant-garde thought leader.
+
+01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:10.000
+He has helped Emmanuel Macron rise to power and says of himself that he has discovered him.
+
+01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:16.000
+This is a relatively credible claim because of Ataly being a visionary networker
+
+01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:18.000
+and his extensive connections.
+
+01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:31.000
+So, as I said, he wrote something most interesting when the 2009 H1N flu came about.
+
+01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:36.000
+History teaches us that humanity advances in great strides if it is frightened.
+
+01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:42.000
+The pandemic now setting in might trigger one of these fears that cause structural changes.
+
+01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:46.000
+Then we will be able to lay the foundation for a world government,
+
+01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:52.000
+something to accomplish much faster than it would have been possible by economic reasons alone.
+
+01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:54.000
+I don't want to commend it.
+
+01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:59.000
+Those are simply Ataly's own words from the 2009 H1N1 flu.
+
+01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:05.000
+Actually, what I find striking is the fact that such ideas are usually associated with conspiracy theories,
+
+01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:07.000
+but this is a true quote.
+
+01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:10.000
+It is the utterance of a man of great influence globally.
+
+01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:19.000
+A year later in 2010, a study was published in the USA that goes along the same lines.
+
+01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:22.000
+It is the so-called lockstep scenario.
+
+01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:25.000
+Let me briefly introduce it to you.
+
+01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:30.000
+The title of the study is Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development.
+
+01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:35.000
+It sounds a little boring and bureaucratic, quite unspectacular at first glance.
+
+01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:39.000
+You wouldn't expect that the study contained newsworthy information.
+
+01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:44.000
+It was financed with money from the Rockefeller Foundation. See the logo here.
+
+01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:49.000
+That foundation is one of the oldest, wealthiest and most powerful private foundations in the world.
+
+01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:56.000
+The name is derived from the founder David Rockefeller, who 100 years ago was in fact the wealthiest man alive.
+
+01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:00.000
+Even today, the Rockefeller Foundation is influential in many fields.
+
+01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:09.000
+The study of 2010 was apparently taken scenario planning to an entire new level.
+
+01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:19.000
+A set of four different global future scenarios were envisioned in order to explore how societies might develop over the next 15 to 20 years.
+
+01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:25.000
+So in each of the four narratives, the imagined societies are shaped by certain driving forces,
+
+01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:32.000
+playing out over time like, for example, the impact of new technologies and natural catastrophes like deadly diseases.
+
+01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:38.000
+The project designers were required to think outside the box and envision plausible futures.
+
+01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:43.000
+One of these possible scenarios was called lockstep, which describes the following.
+
+01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:47.000
+A deadly flu pandemic is spreading globally and leads to panic.
+
+01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:54.000
+China, with its restrictive approach, has seen as the paragon of effective crisis management and is widely emulated.
+
+01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:57.000
+Mask-wearing becomes mandatory everywhere.
+
+01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:03.000
+Authoritarian control of citizens is imposed and remains in place even after the pandemic is over.
+
+01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:07.000
+Citizens willingly give up their sovereignty and liberties.
+
+01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:12.000
+It is only after around 10 years of top-down rule that people start rabbling.
+
+01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:22.000
+After around 10 years of top-down rule that people start rabbling.
+
+01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:30.000
+They expect us to wait seven more years until we start rabbling.
+
+01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:33.000
+That's pretty creepy, actually, right?
+
+01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:35.000
+Wow, that's creepy.
+
+01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:47.000
+It is very odd to read this now in 2020, recognizing in that depiction our present reality.
+
+01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:57.000
+You come to realize that the study's underlying objective is to seat a new strategic conversation among the key public, private and philanthropic stakeholders,
+
+01:11:57.000 --> 01:12:03.000
+so as to achieve impact more effectively for a preferred future.
+
+01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:09.000
+China is by a very powerful foundation, I guess, that quite a few key players have read the study,
+
+01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:13.000
+even though I'm not able to say how it was received and who read it.
+
+01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:17.000
+For further inquiry, just look for it on the Internet.
+
+01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:31.000
+From 2017 on, the topic of emergency response and pandemic simulation exercises gained traction
+
+01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:36.000
+when a new U.S. president moved into the White House, Donald Trump.
+
+01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:44.000
+I suggest a casual relation between the change of government and invigorating the international simulation exercises.
+
+01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:53.000
+Here a picture of outgoing U.S. President Barack Obama in conversation with President-elect Donald Trump in the Oval Office in November 2016.
+
+01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:59.000
+You all remember the days after the election, it was truly a shock affecting the media all over the world.
+
+01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.000
+Trump is the new U.S. president.
+
+01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.000
+How could that happen?
+
+01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:10.000
+Nobody had deemed it possible that an outsider like Trump, someone who had been expressing himself in such a bold and blunt manner,
+
+01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:15.000
+not caring about how his words would be received by the media, actually won the election.
+
+01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:20.000
+The news of that man becoming president sent shockwaves around the globe.
+
+01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:25.000
+You are surely familiar with the world economic forums, annual meeting, every January in Davos,
+
+01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:28.000
+and the Munich Security Conference every February.
+
+01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:35.000
+In 2017 at those events the attendees spoke about little else but the new president of the USA.
+
+01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:41.000
+What would Trump as president mean for the world trade, the financial system, and for international diplomacy?
+
+01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:44.000
+Can we keep going like we did in the past?
+
+01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:49.000
+So in February 2017 in his opening remarks in Munich, John McCain said,
+
+01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:52.000
+I refuse to accept the demise of our world order.
+
+01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:59.000
+He was a hardliner and hawk with great influence in the U.S. and in international diplomatic circles,
+
+01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:05.000
+and his address was met with a lot of applause on that conference where high-ranking representatives of military,
+
+01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:10.000
+politics and business mainly from NATO member countries get together every year.
+
+01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:18.000
+When you look at the documents and articles from that year, you come to realize that the transatlantic relations were severely challenged at the time.
+
+01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:24.000
+The members of these elite circles worried big time about the future of the Western military alliance
+
+01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:27.000
+and wondered if it might fall apart because of Trump.
+
+01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:32.000
+So in that context McCain remarked, I refuse to accept the demise of our world order,
+
+01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:36.000
+followed by louder plows of his peers from Western world countries.
+
+01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:45.000
+The next day at the same conference Bill Gates appears and gives a talk as well,
+
+01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:51.000
+warning that we ignore the link between health security and international security at our own peril,
+
+01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:56.000
+and adds that it is only a question of time that a dangerous Patogaine would spread,
+
+01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:00.000
+be it by a quirk of nature or by the hand of a terrorist.
+
+01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:04.000
+We need to be prepared with a new arsenal of weapons.
+
+01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:09.000
+The world needs to prepare for epidemics the way the military prepares for war.
+
+01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:14.000
+Right afterwards the pandemic exercises started anew.
+
+01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:20.000
+In May 2017 for the first time in history the health ministers of the G20 met in Berlin.
+
+01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:25.000
+They were sent by the 20 wealthiest and most powerful industrial nations of the world.
+
+01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:28.000
+China, India and Brazil participated as well.
+
+01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:36.000
+For the first time those health ministers came together as a team in order to organize their response to the threat of a future pandemic.
+
+01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:43.000
+So we see here, sitting side by side, all the health secretaries or health ministers.
+
+01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:48.000
+Here in the front row of the German Health Minister, Harmann Gruy, the predecessor of Jenschban,
+
+01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:53.000
+next to him his colleague from China, the US, Brazil, Canada, Australia.
+
+01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:58.000
+The other day they are watching a pandemic scenario,
+
+01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:02.000
+on the screen.
+
+01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:09.000
+The name of the new dangerous virus was not Zars, but Mars, mountain-associated respiratory syndrome.
+
+01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:14.000
+Mountain-associated virus came from a mountain area.
+
+01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:17.000
+That's racist.
+
+01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:22.000
+Just see them all in unison intently watching the story unfold.
+
+01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:39.000
+When we look at that picture, we might comprehend a bit better why in today's crisis all or at least most of the countries are proceeding very co-ordinately and why in every country more or less the same is acted out.
+
+01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:44.000
+All these officials in power received the same input a while before the corona crisis.
+
+01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:52.000
+They were given the same general recipes and procedural instructions that are now being realized in a synchronized way.
+
+01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:55.000
+At least this is how it seems to be.
+
+01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:57.000
+Back to our timeline.
+
+01:16:57.000 --> 01:17:05.000
+It is now August 2017 and the German Health Minister Gruy is presenting an international advisory board for the German Health Policy.
+
+01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:13.000
+Well, actually that group will not just be counseling Germany alone because Germany was assigned for leading the way to global health policy.
+
+01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:17.000
+These ladies and gents are to advise the government.
+
+01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:23.000
+This one here in the back in Germany, we all know him.
+
+01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:27.000
+First-hand Rosten, he is a member of that advisory board.
+
+01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:33.000
+To his left, we see Ilona Kickbush, a professor who has done a lot of research about pandemic threats.
+
+01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:37.000
+She has been working in high-level positions for the WHO for many years.
+
+01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:45.000
+There is Jörk Hakka, the former director of the Robert Koch Institute, here the WHO Regional Director for Africa.
+
+01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:53.000
+In my view, however, these two gentlemen at the sides are most important for they play in a different league altogether.
+
+01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:57.000
+Here to the left is Jeremy Farrah of the Wellcome Trust.
+
+01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:02.000
+That is a British foundation with a remarkable $25 billion endowment.
+
+01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:07.000
+It is an extremely influential charitable foundation in the field of health governance.
+
+01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:14.000
+It is even more powerful in terms of funding than the Rockefeller Foundation or the George Soros Open Society foundations.
+
+01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:19.000
+So the Wellcome Trust has more funds and has built a huge network for global health governance.
+
+01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:22.000
+To the right is Christopher Elias of the Gates Foundation.
+
+01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:26.000
+This is in fact an even more important foundation in this field.
+
+01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:30.000
+With roughly 50 billions, that foundation is even better connected.
+
+01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:34.000
+The Gates Foundation plays a leading role in global health governance.
+
+01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:37.000
+One can surely say without exaggeration.
+
+01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:42.000
+So from 2017, these two weighty gentlemen have been counseling the German government
+
+01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:46.000
+and have set at a table with Christian Drosten and the German Health Minister.
+
+01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:49.000
+It could possibly help to notice.
+
+01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:57.000
+Let's move on to the year 2018.
+
+01:18:57.000 --> 01:19:04.000
+Again, there is a major bioterrorism simulation exercise in the USA, this time however, without international scope.
+
+01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:11.000
+You see very high level officials and politicians representing the US National Security Council in Washington.
+
+01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:16.000
+They are all people in high functions who act as if they were members of the National Security Council
+
+01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:19.000
+and are now coping with that emergency situation.
+
+01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:22.000
+It is interesting from different angles.
+
+01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:26.000
+There on the screen in the middle a pre-produced TV program is playing.
+
+01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:31.000
+Those two women talking to each other are well-known TV hosts in the United States.
+
+01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:37.000
+If that event had taken place in Germany, we would see, for example, Sandra Meiszberger and Muybrüt Ina
+
+01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:42.000
+conversing with each other about the bioterrorism attack that had just occurred.
+
+01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:49.000
+Those who had planned the exercise had applied a lot of effort to make it as realistic as possible,
+
+01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:54.000
+so that the trainees would experience the situation as real.
+
+01:19:55.000 --> 01:20:00.000
+The plot of the exercise was as follows.
+
+01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:07.000
+A fictional elitist cult had financed the creation of a nasty virus in the BioLab in Zurich.
+
+01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:12.000
+It was eventually let loose so that a global pandemic has arisen.
+
+01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:19.000
+The aim of that cult had been to reduce the global population, indeed a demonic ambition.
+
+01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:23.000
+So that was the scenario of this exercise which was called Clayd X.
+
+01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:28.000
+It was once more organized by the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.
+
+01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:34.000
+Here are all the Quaintons to the right.
+
+01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:38.000
+I have mentioned him before as one of the addresses of the Antrex letters,
+
+01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:42.000
+who in the meantime has been employed as a lobbyist for the healthcare industry,
+
+01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:45.000
+he is now participating in this exercise.
+
+01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:52.000
+Two is left biosecurity expert Tara O'Toole, who has written a number of scripts for such simulation exercises,
+
+01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:54.000
+among them the dark winter scenario.
+
+01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:57.000
+This goes on an important role in government.
+
+01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:58.000
+It's a nice presentation.
+
+01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:02.000
+It's one of the key figures in the field of disaster response strategies.
+
+01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:10.000
+Now we are fast approaching the present time.
+
+01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:17.000
+But before I tell you about the latest simulation exercise event 201 in October 2019,
+
+01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:23.000
+allow me at this point to pose the question of why the corona pandemic did happen in January 2020.
+
+01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:31.000
+You could of course say that happened because the virus just came up then.
+
+01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:35.000
+Sticking with the official explanation, it originated in Wuhan, China
+
+01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:40.000
+and spread from one person to the next, from one country to the other, naturally.
+
+01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:46.000
+If you however assumed that the corona pandemic did not occur so faithfully,
+
+01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:53.000
+but was masterminded by some circles, it might not be uninteresting to get straight what has happened in September 2019.
+
+01:21:53.000 --> 01:22:00.000
+Many people, me included, didn't fully realize that in mid-September 2019, stock markets were in panic.
+
+01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:06.000
+It was a liquidity crisis called the cash crunch of September 2019 or repo crisis 2019.
+
+01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:11.000
+At that time I had not noticed the unusual liquidity problem of US banks.
+
+01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:16.000
+As I said at the beginning of today's talk, this money markets crisis is not mentioned in my book.
+
+01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:21.000
+I had only become aware of that extraordinary moment when working on this talk.
+
+01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:29.000
+Now I would like to show you a news report from German weekly site online of 2nd October 2019,
+
+01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:32.000
+titled Blackout in the Financial System.
+
+01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:39.000
+The Fed tries to prevent a breakdown of the cash market by injecting billions of dollars into the financial system.
+
+01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:41.000
+How alarming is the situation?
+
+01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:43.000
+Here a few excerpts.
+
+01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:45.000
+The crisis came overnight.
+
+01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:47.000
+Banks were running short of cash.
+
+01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:51.000
+The Fed was intervening with massive amounts of dollars to prevent the burst.
+
+01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:55.000
+This sounds like the climax of the global financial crisis 11 years ago,
+
+01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:59.000
+but in fact it only describes the Monday of the week before last,
+
+01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:03.000
+an important part of the global financial system was on the verge of collapse,
+
+01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:07.000
+and the general public noticed practically nothing.
+
+01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:11.000
+So what had happened?
+
+01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:21.000
+In the night of September 17, 2019, a certain interest rate unexpectedly spiked on an overnight loan market.
+
+01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:28.000
+It was to rate for short-term credits that are normally borrowed by banks at an interest rate of about 2%.
+
+01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:31.000
+But suddenly lenders were demanding 10%.
+
+01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:38.000
+The last time the Fed had to intervene was after the bankruptcy of the investment bank Lehman Brothers in 2008.
+
+01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:46.000
+The fall of that large bank prompted a crisis in that part of the financial system that almost led to the collapse of world economy.
+
+01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:52.000
+That development helped my attention.
+
+01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:58.000
+I have looked at the monetary policy principles and practice of the US Federal Reserve System,
+
+01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:02.000
+the US Central Bank, and checked the data on its website.
+
+01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:04.000
+There you can find this graph.
+
+01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:08.000
+Now for everyone who isn't at home at the subject of numbers and finance,
+
+01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:09.000
+don't be scared now.
+
+01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:10.000
+It's not rocket science.
+
+01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:13.000
+It's not as complicated as it looks at first glance.
+
+01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:16.000
+I will try to explain what the chart is showing.
+
+01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:20.000
+It's the balance sheet of the Fed depicting its total assets.
+
+01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:30.000
+It shows how much money the Fed is pumping into American economy by buying treasury and corporate bonds to offset the fact that banks have stopped lending money to each other.
+
+01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:45.000
+In short, the Fed actively participates in the economy by creating money and injecting it into the domestic banking system in order to compensate for the fact that the interbank lending market has dried up because banks have lost confidence and hold on to their reserves.
+
+01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:49.000
+So it is basically the fever chart of US economy.
+
+01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:58.000
+Here to the left, that's 2008, before the global financial crisis, when the Fed owned assets of almost a trillion dollars, that's 1,000 billions.
+
+01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:03.000
+This amount doubled within a few weeks in the fall of 2008.
+
+01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:07.000
+Why? The Fed's total assets doubled because the confidence was gone.
+
+01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:10.000
+The banks had stopped lending money to one another.
+
+01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:15.000
+So the Federal Reserve had to fill in, otherwise the system would have blown up.
+
+01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:17.000
+That's what happened in 2008.
+
+01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:23.000
+It's striking though that the Fed's bonds purchases were not cut back, but continued in 2010 and 11.
+
+01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:31.000
+The amount was even increased in 2012, 13 and 14, further rises then from 2015 to the end of 2017.
+
+01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:39.000
+The intervention plateaued at the high level of 4 trillion, which was roughly 4 times the amount compared to before the crisis of 2008.
+
+01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:46.000
+When you look at that from today's perspective, you read and think of what they get you to argue about with regard to student loans.
+
+01:25:48.000 --> 01:25:56.000
+Where businesses, you know, somewhere between 100,000 and 700,000 can go, I mean, I don't know what the number is.
+
+01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:01.000
+The businesses can go bankrupt for the tune of millions of dollars every year.
+
+01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:08.000
+Nobody's got any problem with that, but not, you know, the idea that student loans, they can't be bankrupt.
+
+01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:14.000
+You can't dispense of them with bankruptcy and you can't get out of them and the interest runs forever.
+
+01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:17.000
+And there's no real control on that.
+
+01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:27.000
+And then they make us fight about whether those loans are important enough when businesses are allowed to declare bankruptcy all the time.
+
+01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:43.000
+And the Fed is allowed to take on the weight of the bad choices of the banking system to the tune of multi trillions of dollars.
+
+01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:46.000
+Multi trillions of dollars.
+
+01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:51.000
+It's extraordinary to me how the bait and switch works on every level.
+
+01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:57.000
+We're never really talking about what's important if we're talking about what the TV wants us to talk about.
+
+01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:03.000
+Realize that the bubble was gigantic and it becomes clear that this practice couldn't be kept up.
+
+01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:07.000
+You either had to deflate it or it would eventually burst.
+
+01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:16.000
+Actually, that was tried by the Federal Reserve at the end of 2017 when it was decided to slowly but deliberately deflate that bubble in a steady manner.
+
+01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:20.000
+Sell assets and thus effectively take money out of the system.
+
+01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:23.000
+For two years, that went pretty well between the end of 2017.
+
+01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:25.000
+I mean, it's no different, right?
+
+01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:34.000
+The student loans are no different than somebody going into the hospital with no insurance and having somebody at the door say,
+
+01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:38.000
+you can have the best treatment. All you got to do is sign here.
+
+01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:43.000
+Because with most of these kids, they go off to school. That's how I got it.
+
+01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:51.000
+I wanted to go to a school. They said, I sign here and I can go to the school and you'll figure out the student loan debt later.
+
+01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:58.000
+Well, if you went into a hospital and they said you'll get the best care, if you just sign here, we'll pay for it and you can figure it out afterward.
+
+01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:03.000
+And then you came out with a huge bill that you never really could understand.
+
+01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:09.000
+And the hospital's not on the blocks for charging you the right amount.
+
+01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:13.000
+The university's not on the block for charging you the right amount.
+
+01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:27.000
+And so a lot of these liberal arts universities can charge $20,000 a year because they know Pell grants and guaranteed student loans are going to be given away at infant item to any kid that applies for them.
+
+01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:45.000
+And so they hire a whole financial aid department that helps these kids navigate the application process and make sure is that all of them get the financial aid that they deserve so that they can cover the bill of whatever that university decides to charge them this year.
+
+01:28:46.000 --> 01:29:08.000
+And so it's kind of a racket to put the college kid completely on the block for having gone to that university, paid the cost of the university, had the university graduate them and nobody's looking at the university for what product they provide, whether they charge what they should have.
+
+01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:17.000
+When I get that it's an open market, I get that people should be choosing the right university or going to a state university or whatever.
+
+01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:23.000
+And that if you choose out of state tuition, that's your own problem, I get all those things.
+
+01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:37.000
+But my point is, is that very similar to my analogy of if you walked into a hospital and they told you could have the best treatment if you just sign here, student loans aren't the same as getting alone for a car.
+
+01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:45.000
+Or getting a loan mortgage for a house, nobody evaluates anybody's potential to pay the loan back.
+
+01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:51.000
+You just have to sign at the dotted line and now you have four years of college.
+
+01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:57.000
+And that's a pretty weird thing to then say, by the way, you could never get out of this.
+
+01:29:57.000 --> 01:30:08.000
+Never. Never ever ever get out of this. It's on you forever. And if they want to charge you 9% interest and compound it when you can't pay it, well, that's tough shit.
+
+01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:21.000
+So it's interesting to apply that to student loans, but not to apply it to business loans, mortgage loans, any other loans that anybody has, credit card loans.
+
+01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:29.000
+Because again, that's fine. Bankruptcy is fine, but not when it comes to student loans.
+
+01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:34.000
+And so I'm just saying, this is crazy. It's extremely nuts.
+
+01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:45.000
+And student loans is a very small drop in the bucket for what goes on in the background with corporate business going out of business, corporate business cheating, corporate business tax fraud.
+
+01:30:45.000 --> 01:30:52.000
+And this federal government bank collusion that we have to admit that we don't even understand.
+
+01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:27.000
+But obviously the confidence on the repo market was reduced to nothing in mid September 2019, which means that the Fed had to completely alter its course, reversing the policy it had been pursuing for two years.
+
+01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:34.000
+So it was again buying government securities, thereby providing liquidity for the markets. What a turn.
+
+01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:44.000
+And now you see the significant rise here. It has nothing to do with Corona that is January 2020. But this year in March 2020, this is the sharp increase in the shadow of Corona.
+
+01:31:45.000 --> 01:31:53.000
+But see, October, November, December 2019, the graph indicates ever increasing cash injections that have nothing to do with Corona.
+
+01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:58.000
+After March 2020, it's the same upward movement, just much more pronounced.
+
+01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:10.000
+And now I would like to show your report from January 16, 2020, a few weeks before Corona became the major media topic.
+
+01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:18.000
+It is a report by Norbert Herring, a German economics journalist, writing about the Fed's massive bond purchases.
+
+01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:28.000
+The Fed explained its interventions with the less than convincing reason of temporary miscalculations, saying it was out of the question that the banks didn't trust each other.
+
+01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:32.000
+The alleged miscalculations apparently seem to be rather persistent.
+
+01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:39.000
+Four months later, the Fed's emergency landing is still perpetuated in unrestrained amounts, an end is not in sight.
+
+01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:45.000
+The names of the company's receiving loans are kept secret so that their reputation won't suffer.
+
+01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:52.000
+It might be that the financial market boom, fueled by central banks, is in its final phase before collapsing.
+
+01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:56.000
+I would like to put that into a wider chronological context.
+
+01:32:56.000 --> 01:33:03.000
+I found the chart depicting the historical view of the Fed balance sheet over a period of not only 10 years, but 100 years.
+
+01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:05.000
+That's how long it already exists.
+
+01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:12.000
+Here we can basically see to what extent the Fed was actively participated in US economy relative to GDP.
+
+01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:16.000
+We see that it peaks in 2008 during the global financial crisis.
+
+01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:25.000
+The value was comparable to the Great Depression in 1930, rising continually until 1940, only to decrease slowly after World War II.
+
+01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:32.000
+The level of the Fed's interventions is similarly high during the crisis of 2008 and again in September 2019.
+
+01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:40.000
+We are experiencing the same large-scale dimensions of financial intervention.
+
+01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:53.000
+In October 2019, the next simulation exercise took place at that hotel, an exceptionally luxurious venue for such an exercise on Fifth Avenue in Manhattan.
+
+01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:59.000
+Central Park is right across, and when you walk a few blocks south on Fifth Avenue, you come to the Trump Tower.
+
+01:33:59.000 --> 01:34:02.000
+So this part of Manhattan is the most expensive.
+
+01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:09.000
+The hotel Pierre was opened in 1930 during the Great Depression, financed by some big Wall Street bankers.
+
+01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:17.000
+That roof anti-architecture are reminiscent of the royal chapel of Versailles, the Baroque grandeur of Louis Catos.
+
+01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:28.000
+The Wall Street bankers whose money made it possible obviously like to live in that kind of pomp and splendor, they saw themselves on that level.
+
+01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:34.000
+The hotel still exists, and right there in New York, the exercise called Event 201 was hosted.
+
+01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:44.000
+Sure enough, it was a corona virus pandemic that was being responded to.
+
+01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:49.000
+I'd like to present you briefly who is sitting there at the conference table.
+
+01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:55.000
+This is the host from the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security next to him, Christopher Elias of the Gates Foundation.
+
+01:34:55.000 --> 01:35:02.000
+I have brought him to your attention before, since he is a member of the Advisory Board on Global Health for the German Government.
+
+01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:06.000
+To his right, the Director of American Center for Disease Control.
+
+01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:13.000
+There is the Director of the Chinese Center for Disease Control, who was also part of that group of global senior leaders.
+
+01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:20.000
+There the Vice President Global Public Health at Johnson & Johnson by market value, the largest farmer corporation in the world.
+
+01:35:21.000 --> 01:35:31.000
+Here the former Deputy Director of the CIA, and there in the front, the Global Chief Operating Officer at Edelmann, the world's largest public relations and communications firm.
+
+01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:44.000
+As I've mentioned, this time a corona virus pandemic was simulated with an eye towards public relations.
+
+01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:54.000
+It says here, governments will need to partner with traditional and social media companies to research and develop nimble approaches to countering misinformation.
+
+01:35:54.000 --> 01:36:01.000
+This will require developing the ability to fluid media with fast, accurate and consistent information.
+
+01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:13.000
+For their part, media companies should commit to ensuring that authoritative messages are prioritized and that false messages are suppressed, including through the use of technology.
+
+01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:17.000
+That is basically just what is happening at this very moment.
+
+01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:24.000
+Here another picture of the conference.
+
+01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:30.000
+This is Anita Atcizero, the Deputy Director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.
+
+01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:33.000
+She was assigned to co-organize the event.
+
+01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:42.000
+She's a lawyer who, before joining the center, had worked as a farmer lobbyist in the management of a Washington, D.C law firm responsible for about 300 employees,
+
+01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:51.000
+advocating on the behalf of the farmer industry with members of Congress, likewise constructively engaging with members of the European Commission.
+
+01:36:51.000 --> 01:36:56.000
+Finally, she became Deputy Director of that Center for Health Security.
+
+01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:02.000
+These infographics there are found very interesting.
+
+01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:10.000
+The significant data of the fictive crisis of event 201 are being presented in charts, maps and tables, showing the mounting numbers of cases,
+
+01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:15.000
+and there on the map you see what countries are impacted and to what degree.
+
+01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:19.000
+There we are informed about the performance of financial markets.
+
+01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:24.000
+Here we have the projection of how the death rate will develop within the next month.
+
+01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:31.000
+This is exactly the same kind of infographics that we are now getting from the Johns Hopkins University.
+
+01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:35.000
+It is the info we are being fed by all mainstream media outlets.
+
+01:37:36.000 --> 01:37:41.000
+It's just that same graphic visualization of numbers and cases that is our reality now.
+
+01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:51.000
+And the present censorship by social media giants like YouTube and Google has been expressly advised on that event 201 just a few months before today's corona crisis.
+
+01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:54.000
+What had been planned then is now reality.
+
+01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:04.000
+As opposed, all that information taken together provides a crucial backdrop for you to form your own opinion about what is happening at the moment.
+
+01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:08.000
+Thank you for your attention.
+
+01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:10.000
+So that's pretty nice.
+
+01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:13.000
+I really like that one.
+
+01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:22.000
+It's a very, very nice video.
+
+01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:30.000
+I'm going to put a link to it here in the in the chat so you can mark it for yourself.
+
+01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:36.000
+I think it's a real nice one to share and you can also share this stream, of course, of us watching it together.
+
+01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:43.000
+I want to just make sure that we have it clear.
+
+01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:49.000
+The concept of what's going on, the illusion of consensus.
+
+01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:57.000
+And how we're using this example of left track as an illusion of consensus.
+
+01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:00.000
+That was a close one.
+
+01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:02.000
+I almost been home with that guy.
+
+01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:04.000
+You doing okay?
+
+01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:05.000
+Do we need to go?
+
+01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:07.000
+No, I'm fine.
+
+01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:12.000
+I admit all these people did take me by surprise at first, but I've learned that I can accept change.
+
+01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:14.000
+Since when?
+
+01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:20.000
+I managed it when Amy switched her shampoo from pral to pral for oily hair.
+
+01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:24.000
+Although I do miss the way her head used to slide off the pillow.
+
+01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:31.000
+And now if we remove that consensus, look at how bad it becomes.
+
+01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:39.000
+I'm over here Sheldon.
+
+01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:42.000
+That was a close one.
+
+01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:44.000
+I almost been home with that guy.
+
+01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:47.000
+You doing okay?
+
+01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:48.000
+Do we need to go?
+
+01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:49.000
+No, I'm fine.
+
+01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:55.000
+I admit all these people did take me by surprise at first, but I've learned that I can accept change.
+
+01:39:56.000 --> 01:39:57.000
+Since when?
+
+01:39:58.000 --> 01:40:02.000
+I managed it when Amy switched her shampoo from pral to pral for oily hair.
+
+01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:06.000
+Although I do miss the way her head used to slide off the pillow.
+
+01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:18.000
+And that's really what they do with this when they have five ladies on the view talk about coronavirus for three years
+
+01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:21.000
+and come to conclusions together.
+
+01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:29.000
+It creates this illusion of consensus that these three ladies who are much smarter than me
+
+01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:36.000
+and they're on TV seem to agree that it's a natural virus and these people are telling a story about lab leak
+
+01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:39.000
+and they all took the virus or they all took the shot.
+
+01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:41.000
+She has COVID.
+
+01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:43.000
+Yes, it's back.
+
+01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:45.000
+It's back.
+
+01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:46.000
+But she's on the men.
+
+01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:48.000
+She's on the tail end and she's probably back this week.
+
+01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:52.000
+But sorry, she's not here for those of you who are looking forward to seeing her.
+
+01:40:52.000 --> 01:41:00.000
+And so if you change the channel and you find this illusion of consensus, if you change and scroll on Facebook
+
+01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:06.000
+and you find this illusion of consensus, if you look on Twitter and you see this illusion of consensus
+
+01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:13.000
+that we've got to figure out whether it's a natural leak or a lab virus and then that consensus slowly starts to change
+
+01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:17.000
+to the fact that, wow, they seem to have really lied about this.
+
+01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:21.000
+It seems like they were covering stuff up and it looks like they gave money.
+
+01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:28.000
+And this guy and that guy and no, and there's barrack and there's fauci and there's eco-health alliance.
+
+01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:30.000
+This is all wrapped up.
+
+01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:39.000
+And none of the current players that are really talking every night, the ones that are on,
+
+01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:47.000
+are able to be on YouTube, the ones that are able to be on every podcast that they ever want to be on all the time,
+
+01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:53.000
+every channel are not talking about the PCR fraud at all anymore.
+
+01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:56.000
+I don't know if I've ever heard Robert Malone talk about that.
+
+01:41:56.000 --> 01:42:00.000
+I don't know if I've ever heard Steve Kirsch really talk about it anymore.
+
+01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:05.000
+They're not talking about the crime of the masking and lockdown anymore.
+
+01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:06.000
+That's already forgotten.
+
+01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:12.000
+The spreading, the pathogen that spread is never really spread.
+
+01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:19.000
+And now we have data from Jessica Hockett and from lots of other people, actually, like Denny Rancour,
+
+01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:21.000
+that all show the same thing.
+
+01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:23.000
+There's death certificate fraud.
+
+01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:30.000
+The journalists have uncovered in New York City and in other places around the United States.
+
+01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:36.000
+There's protocol fraud that includes do not resuscitate orders to EMTs in New York and elsewhere,
+
+01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:43.000
+because you don't want to resuscitate people and catch the virus yourself.
+
+01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:48.000
+And then all of those heart attacks that weren't resuscitated were called COVID deaths.
+
+01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:53.000
+There's the protocol ventilation fraud, the protocol treatment fraud with remdesivir,
+
+01:42:54.000 --> 01:43:04.000
+and then there's this early treatment fraud, which is the idea that something was held back.
+
+01:43:04.000 --> 01:43:10.000
+And that's why people died as opposed to treating them poorly or not treating them at all
+
+01:43:10.000 --> 01:43:14.000
+or not giving them antibiotics because antibiotics doesn't work for a virus.
+
+01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:25.000
+And in reality, anybody that's talking about this, as Mr. Sparkle, aka Mike Eden talks about it,
+
+01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:34.000
+you got to talk about it all every time in order for people to understand how it has to all be lies.
+
+01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:44.000
+It can't possibly be a lab leaked virus that killed millions of people and all of these lies.
+
+01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:46.000
+That's ridiculous.
+
+01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:58.000
+You don't need anything if you have all of these lies except for a spectacular commitment to maintaining these lies.
+
+01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:02.000
+And so I believe this is where we are, the who declared a pandemic of a dangerous novel.
+
+01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:07.000
+Virus said to be detectable by a specific PCR test, but it was not specific.
+
+01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:13.000
+I think most likely scenario is that they released, as was described in that video,
+
+01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:22.000
+they just they released a clone, which would blend into a background of an existing coronavirus background.
+
+01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:27.000
+And so they put the clone in places, maybe made people sick with it,
+
+01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:34.000
+but certainly made people detectively positive for a sequence that would be very similar around the world,
+
+01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:41.000
+and thus be plausible biological evidence for the rapid spread of a single agent.
+
+01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:49.000
+But of course, with that background, as Robert Cadillac said, with that background, a few seed cases
+
+01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:56.000
+and then testing that doesn't really cover the specific would give you the thing that Giordano said.
+
+01:44:56.000 --> 01:45:03.000
+And that would enable a larger portion of all cause mortality to be prioritized as a national security threat
+
+01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:06.000
+because the test makes it that instead of the other.
+
+01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:10.000
+And the US was ready with a plan as was described in this video.
+
+01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:14.000
+We had been rehearsing with other countries for decades.
+
+01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:28.000
+And so an NIAID funded DNA RNA infectious clone, so using DNA to generate the RNA and then spraying it around,
+
+01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:33.000
+or just DNA and spraying it around so that you can sequence for it.
+
+01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:41.000
+This clone of a coronavirus may have been used to seed the molecular idea, maybe even cases.
+
+01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:49.000
+Maybe the first SARS virus in 2002 was what a clone does when you release it in China on an apartment building.
+
+01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:55.000
+It gets 10,000 people trackably sick and it kills 700 people.
+
+01:45:55.000 --> 01:46:03.000
+And so maybe they did that in five places and then they sequenced it in five places and they found that virus.
+
+01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:07.000
+That's what I'm suggesting.
+
+01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:14.000
+After that, there doesn't need to be spread because there was a background signal that these tests cannot differentiate from
+
+01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:18.000
+and that these sequencing reactions can pick up.
+
+01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:27.000
+And since we have no sequencing data from before 2020 that's worth a darn, we don't know if that background signal didn't always exist.
+
+01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:33.000
+And it's a much more parsimonious explanation for the molecular signal we're seeing now
+
+01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:41.000
+than the point spread of an RNA species from Wuhan, China around the planet.
+
+01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:50.000
+And the reason why they're telling us this story that our fabulous commitment to lives is because they are fabulously
+
+01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:58.000
+committed to converting our children from basic human rights to basic granted permissions.
+
+01:46:58.000 --> 01:47:03.000
+They don't want our kids to feel the sovereignty that we feel over our children.
+
+01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:12.000
+And I'm going to zip through this because you know already that's what they did.
+
+01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:17.000
+So the way that they convinced us of this again is a laboratory or a bad cave zoonosis.
+
+01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:20.000
+And I think it was a conflated background signal.
+
+01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:26.000
+If you compare these two, in this scenario, the Earth is clean over here in 2018.
+
+01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:33.000
+And then a lab leak or a natural virus is released in Wuhan and it spreads around the world and it changes.
+
+01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:36.000
+And that's why the virus changes color.
+
+01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:43.000
+And what I think is a much more parsimonious explanation for what they've done is that in the background there is a signal.
+
+01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:54.000
+And they probably used a clone to seed the appearance of a homogenous novel signal on this background.
+
+01:47:54.000 --> 01:48:01.000
+And since nobody's really aware of the depth and the breadth of this background because no one was looking at it before,
+
+01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:09.000
+once they rolled out mass testing and mass sequencing, it looks like, wow, look at all this stuff, we're finding it everywhere.
+
+01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:23.000
+But in reality, if they'd have looked this hard and this often all the time with this much gusto and this many terrible products and this much, let's say, impetus to find things
+
+01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:31.000
+then they would have found this background signal a long time ago, but it just wouldn't have been conflated into a pandemic.
+
+01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:39.000
+And so it doesn't matter whether it's a leak or lease or lies, it doesn't matter because in this scenario, it is the protocols that killed everybody.
+
+01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:46.000
+It's the change in behavior that killed everybody. It's the bad information that killed everybody.
+
+01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:52.000
+It's the notion that there's a novel virus around that you don't understand that killed everybody.
+
+01:48:52.000 --> 01:49:12.000
+And they put all these young doctors on their heels and sent all the old doctors home and separated families and spouses and children from their parents as they died from what was probably an untreated secondary pneumonia brought on by a respiratory disease.
+
+01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:19.000
+And so the protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine, you can turn this around and try to explain it.
+
+01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:32.000
+But I've said a million times if you call 911 and say there's a man in my house, you shouldn't really have to tell 911 what he's doing there or what his motivations are.
+
+01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:36.000
+They should probably send the police right away and then the police figure that out.
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+01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:50.000
+And when you realize that there wasn't a pandemic because the biology doesn't permit it, which means everybody is lying to you, then this becomes a crime scene and we're not really obligated to explain what happened.
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+01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:54.000
+It's time to back the truck up and figure it out.
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+All we know for sure is the protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine.
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+01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:05.000
+So you could say it was a transfection agent release and infectious clone release.
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+01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:09.000
+It doesn't matter because the protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine.
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+01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:19.000
+So whatever it was, I think the best explanation to cover the most is a conflated background signal, meaning there was an agent.
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+They likely seated the molecular signature on a background from which the PCR could not differentiate.
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+And overuse of the PCR and people who are not sick, but with a huge background from which it couldn't differentiate, this huge signal came up.
+
+01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:51.000
+And the media and social media and governments were all primed to talk only about spread, talk only about numbers that started from zero and went to infinity.
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+And not to adequately describe this in context of all cause mortality and instead describe it in some cartoon manner that has nothing to do with the biological reality.
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+01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:08.000
+Protocols were murder, transfection is not medicine.
+
+01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:18.000
+And that's why the scenario of there are no viruses is definitely a trap because there is transfection.
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+We can make gene sequences. We have made transfections working animals before.
+
+01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:27.000
+We have aerosolized these things before.
+
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+Bioweapons programs are real.
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+I think it's very, very good argument that these guys make that there aren't these obligate pathogens that replicated our bodies and fly around the world.
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+01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:50.000
+But there are exosomes and there are lots of signals at this size scale that involve genetic material that we do not understand.
+
+01:51:50.000 --> 01:52:00.000
+Some of them go between our tissues. Some of them are signaling for our immune system and others of them may signal between conspecifics and we may not understand them.
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+01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:05.000
+And there is likely this signaling process in animals as well.
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+01:52:05.000 --> 01:52:12.000
+It's even possible that this signaling process is, let's say, semi-self enduring.
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+So you might send a signal that is self-replicating for a little while to communicate with a conspecifics immune system to augment it.
+
+01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:25.000
+Maybe this is why little kids make old people sick.
+
+01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:32.000
+It's an interaction between immune systems. It's not a pathogen dirty being spread from another person who's clean.
+
+01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:47.000
+And I think what we need to do is not suddenly rush to another solution like there is no viruses or it's germ theory or it's terrain theory, but rush to stop rushing.
+
+01:52:47.000 --> 01:53:01.000
+But just sit back and relax and realize that the simple cartoon that we've been given that's supposed to make us understand how this and other diseases have been cured by vaccines is insufficient to describe our lack of knowledge.
+
+01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:12.000
+About how our immune system interacts with our environment and is augmentable by human intervention.
+
+01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:17.000
+So this isn't sufficient. Protocols or murder and transfection is not medicine.
+
+01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:23.000
+So this is where we are. This is really, really, really where I think we should stay.
+
+01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:36.000
+And I think Mike Eden and I are going to try and come up with a way of collaborating on this so that we can get some kind of message that we can be sending out more regularly and making clips of, etc.
+
+01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:45.000
+So I think people have worked together, wittingly and unwittingly, to change our minds to see this worst case scenario in the beginning.
+
+01:53:45.000 --> 01:54:00.000
+And that really put us on our heels. And it's taken us three years to realize that this mindset change allowed us to change so much behavior and a full and entire society into essentially shooting ourselves in the foot.
+
+01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:10.000
+And, or injecting ourselves in our shoulder as it were. And this was the plan. And it's been the plan all along.
+
+01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:17.000
+And once we realize that it's a plan, we're going to have to, we're going to have to put the brakes on and take control of our car again.
+
+01:54:17.000 --> 01:54:22.000
+Because the goal is bio surveillance. And it's not for us.
+
+01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:33.000
+We're too old. And we're too sovereign over ourselves and our children. So the idea is to get our children's children. This is a long game.
+
+01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:36.000
+10 years, 20 year game.
+
+01:54:36.000 --> 01:54:51.000
+And their idea is to talk all this smack about AI and stuff when they really realize the only hope they have of cracking anything of this complexity is to start sampling the diversity that's here before it's gone forever.
+
+01:54:51.000 --> 01:55:04.000
+You can communicate with me at gigaohm.bio and also gigaohmbiological.com. I'm also at JJ Cooey on Twitter.
+
+01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:15.000
+And yeah, we're just going to keep on going because transfection is not immunization. Intra muscular injection is not a valid means of augmenting your immune system.
+
+01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:32.000
+I hope you enjoyed the show. I really liked that German's presentation. It was pretty much spot on. And I thought it was appropriate because we had two videos now with Mike Eden talking about the simulations that occurred and, you know, reminding everybody that's a pretty big piece of evidence.
+
+01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:45.000
+And this hour long presentation really laid it out and smoothed it over as much bread as it can cover. And it's a lot of sandwiches. I got to say, um, yeah. Thanks for joining me.
+
+01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:59.000
+And we will see one another again tomorrow as far as I can tell you. Stop all transfections and humans full stop because they are trying to eliminate the control group. This is gigaohmbiological and high resistance low noise information stream brought to you by a biologist.
+
+01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:02.000
+That's me, Jay Cooey. See you tomorrow.
+
+01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:44.000
+Thanks, guys. I'll see you tomorrow night, maybe tomorrow afternoon, probably tomorrow night.
+
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+so,
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+Let's see if we can get this going correctly here.
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+I apologize for that.
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+I think this is a really neat interview because they talk about some stuff that I didn't expect them to talk about.
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+Remember when I said before in the beginning that we talked about only the doses and the batches and so now Sasha is coming back with a new addition to her COVID story.
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+Hello world and welcome to the Shannon Joy Show.
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+We're broadcasting from the Joy Virtual Studio right here in the beautiful Finger Lakes region of New York State.
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+It is so good to be with all of you tonight in the Joy Virtual Studio.
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+We welcome once again, good friend at the Shannon Joy Show.
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+Sasha, a lot of Pova.
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+She is an amazing researcher, whistleblower and freedom fighter in this battle for medical freedom in the 21st century.
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+You can find her on Twitter.
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+Her handle is at Sasha, underscore a lot of Pova, L-A-T-Y-P-O-V-A.
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+She features most of her work and her updates on her sub-stack, which is due diligence and art.
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+You can see some of her beautiful artwork right behind her in the studio.
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+Sasha, welcome to the program.
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+I'm so glad you're here.
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+Hi Shannon.
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+It's so great to be here.
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+Thank you for inviting me.
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+Absolutely.
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+Can you tell us a little bit about the artwork behind you?
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+I can't stop looking at it.
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+02:56.000 --> 02:57.000
+It's beautiful.
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+I know that your sub-stack is so interesting.
+
+02:59.000 --> 03:03.000
+You are an artist, also a whistleblower in these dystopian times.
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+Probably in retirement.
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+You came back out of retirement in order to fight for liberty for future generations.
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+But that is just beautiful.
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+Can you tell me about it a little bit?
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+This is what I was doing before 2020.
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+I retired from pharmaceutical industry.
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+I sold my companies.
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+I wanted to do art all my life.
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+I never had quite some time.
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+I actually took time and studied and went to Italy to study a little bit.
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+This piece is called The Kingdom of God.
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+That's called from the Bible.
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+I really love it.
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+I love it having it behind me.
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+It's sold, unfortunately.
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+We'll be leaving shortly.
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+It's just beautiful.
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+A lot of your artwork does have a faith theme of Judeo-Christianity.
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+I just think it's really amazing in these dark times, for sure.
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+It's important because the realist art and the type of artist that I want to follow is the Renaissance.
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+Post Renaissance Dutch realist school and Russian realist school.
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+It's about the truth.
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+The truth needs to be exposed.
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+The truth needs to be expressed in every art form that exists.
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+The visual art as well as written and spoken video.
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+This is what it's all about.
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+It's very beautiful.
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+We recently came back together.
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+You've been on the show a couple of times.
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+We were in contact last week.
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+People don't realize that Sasha did live right in the Rochester, New York area for many years.
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+I'm in Fairport, New York.
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+You lived in a neighboring town of Pittsburgh.
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+Do you still have relatives in New York state?
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+We were connected by a harrowing ordeal that Sasha went through with a relative in one of the area hospitals right here in Rochester, New York.
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+You think that the COVID protocols are over and they're not happening in Rochester.
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+Think again, Sasha and her family, they were eyewitness to this in Highland Hospital, which is a hospital under the umbrella of you are.
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+See, before we get to your story, we're going to hit a host of other issues as well.
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+Just to remind you guys, Sasha was a former research and development executive in the pharmaceutical industry.
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+She worked closely in late 2020, 2021 with Catherine Austin fits to locally to locate and analyze government contracts,
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+implicating the Department of Defense and Pentagon as the entities in charge of COVID lockdowns and the protocols as counter measures.
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+She has been a recent eyewitness amazingly to some of the things that you have spoken about and written about in terms of the hospital kill protocols in an incident with your relative.
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+Sasha now suspects that Department of Defense agents and operatives may actually be deployed in hospitals across the country.
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+To execute, maintain and study the practice of demo side, which is systematic government killing of its own people within the hospital settings.
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+Sasha, this is something that we have discussed the COVID-19 kill protocol that many have written about,
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+but you recently had the opportunity of witnessing it firsthand and witnessing exactly what they do to COVID-19 patients on those floors.
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+Through this absolutely harrowing ordeal that you went through recently with the family member right here in Rochester, New York.
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+Can you walk the audience through what happened and what you and your family members witnessed?
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+Yes. Well, one correction. Catherine, what Catherine Austin fits. I use my friend also, but on a different.
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+What? Yes. Yes. Yes. Sorry about that.
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+And Catherine, what also writes on sub stack and her sub stack is Bailey Wick News, very, very good thorough research.
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+So, yes, so what happened is I, one of my elderly relatives lives in Rochester, New York, and was admitted to Highland Hospital.
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+And we're not even sure because before that she tested she was sick.
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+She tested negative for COVID and she was admitted and put into COVID war.
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+So, I'm just going to interrupt here now here to say that we open this up by saying demiside and that the government is killing people using protocols.
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+Now, remember that Sasha came on the scene with different batches of the vaccine, which presumably is part of this demiside, I guess, because the vaccine is also a poison.
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+So, it's strange to me that if Sasha is going to come on your stream that you're not going to summarize all of the contributions that she's made from the beginning of the pandemic.
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+And it seemed to me that the possibility of placebo doses and the possibility that her observation with Craig Particouper was validated by the paper and Denmark is something that you'd want to start with and then say, okay, and now you have this new revelation
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+that on top of this, now you just became aware that these protocols are terrible.
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+So, you didn't know that the protocols were terrible when you first came out when you came out in 2021 and you're only finding out about it now.
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+Wow, that must be really shocking for you.
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+But instead, we started the interview just right at the term demiside and how the COVID-19 protocols are being used.
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+And then they say recently, Sasha had a harrowing ordeal with a family member here in Rochester, New York.
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+Now recently is when, I guess it's very recently like in the last couple weeks.
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+Now, I thought it said something in the, in the, in the, I'm going to just escape for a second because I thought it said something.
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+Oh, yeah, see the account of the remdesivir kill protocol. So let's see if we hear anything about remdesivir.
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+Oh, they're in her 80s. And so, but, so, but we were as a family, we were prepared when we were aware, obviously, what's going on because of my work and
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+so what I would like people to realize that these protocols are ongoing. And this is what you need to do to make sure that your loved ones don't get harmed by this.
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+So we were prepared. We had executed health proxy power journey for one of the family members.
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+When, when admitting to the Highland hospital, even though they put her in the COVID ward, we specifically requested and she requested and also, you know, we as relatives requested that there will be no remdesivir given to her.
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+And put that in the chart. So had a discussion with several people there, they tried to push for remdesivir. We said, no, absolutely no and put it in the chart.
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+And so admitted her and then, then we started witnessing what's going on. Again, we were going in visiting her every day and not many people do that because they're afraid of COVID.
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+And I tell you, there's nothing to be afraid. They tried to, first thing they tried to do is by driving the sphere, they tried to isolate your loved one in the hospital and tell you it's a terrible, terrible virus.
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+And you can't go in because, you know, you're going to get sick also. So we were going in every day, multiple times a day, so witnessing what's going on.
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+And so isolation, and then another thing they tried to do when they did, they refused to hydrate her. And as you know, hydration is number one, like your personal training, fitness code, sports or any activities, especially the elderly.
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+Hydration is number one, with any sort of flu respiratory viral illness. And another thing you need to do all the time is like drink fluids, make sure you're you're hydrating yourself, make sure you expel and all the toxins that are in you.
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+They refused to hydrate her. They explained to me how they refuse to hydrate her. They, in what, what ways they denied her basic water.
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+So they even denied her apple juice. They said that they were out of apple juice.
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+Their relatives was visiting her had to go to segments and buy apple juice for her. The hospital was out of apple juice, we were told.
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+And then, then they sent, then they sent a family relationship representative to talk to them to explain that the hospital is not treating dehydration.
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+The hospital is not treating her other conditions that she has as an elderly person or immune condition that she has blood pressure problems.
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+They, they were coming in and saying, no, we don't treat those things. We don't treat dehydration in this hospital. We only focus on COVID. That was the exact narrative that we were told.
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+That is unbelievable. Yeah, obviously they have, they have a protocol. They know that the family is going to be concerned that their loved one is being dehydrated.
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+And they have this whole narrative to come in and tell you the gaslight, you into, oh, we're so caring about COVID that all these other things we don't worry about.
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+You know, how does the other things that will kill you on the COVID war? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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+Because you need food, you need water, you need sustenance, you need vitamins, you need minerals, and these are all denied an exclusion of a very specific approach.
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+COVID protocol. Before we continue with your story, are the COVID protocols to your knowledge still bringing in cash for hospitals? I know that during COVID-19, if you admitted to COVID patient, if they were diagnosed with COVID, if they went on a ventilator, if they were given remdesivir, remdesivir than the hospital would receive money from either the state or the federal government through one of the various acts,
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+maybe it's CARES Act or subsequent acts that emergency orders that were put through.
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+Do you know if that's still happening today if these hospitals are still financially benefiting from these protocols?
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+So I was specifically checking on that. That's correct. So there are huge incense monitoring centers were put in since 2020, especially.
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+So the ventilator would be something like to put something somebody on ventilator would be something like $40,000.
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+If the hospital used remdesivir, all of the bill, which could have been over $100,000, and in California, up to $500,000, depending on how long that person stayed in the hospital.
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+If they use remdesivir, there would be a 20% bonus on all of the billing, including personal bonuses to the staff.
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+It's a strange thing.
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+It's a strange thing for Sasha La Topova to come forward about now, and I guess it's because she just had a recent experience with somebody.
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+But I think we're going to hear that remdesivir wasn't involved because very early on in this person's experience, they already put it on the chart.
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+No remdesivir.
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+So I get that they're not treating people nicely, that they're treating people poorly in the hospitals, but they've been doing this for three years.
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+People have been complaining about this for a couple years now.
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+And so it seems really strange to me, there's a whole group of people on Facebook that got canceled
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+trying to get their story heard of their relatives being killed by remdesivir.
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+Why not interview one of them?
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+Why not interview one of them every night?
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+Why interview Sasha La Topova, who I'm not sure, did she lose someone yet?
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+Or are we just talking about mistreatment still?
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+Of course, of course, it's a huge financial incentive.
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+And I talked specifically to my friends and the attorneys who were persecuting these who were like working on hospital murder cases right now.
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+And they said it's expiring in September, this 20% kicker is expiring in September, but this was happening in August.
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+So you could see how if you were to be very cynical, you could see how a hospital staff or an executive board would really want to, you know, get as many bonuses and incentives in place before this expires in September.
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+And so that would, it could explain. That's just sickening. It's sickening.
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+And you watched it play out. I'm sorry. I didn't mean I wanted to just establish that quickly as we're going through because tonight, everyone, Sasha is explaining exactly how these kill protocols are rolled out in hospitals.
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+This happened at Highland Hospital under the umbrella of you are MC right in my own backyard of Rochester, New York, which is astounding that, you know, it worked out this way.
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+So first they isolate the patient from their family and they typically use fear.
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+Right. You don't want to get COVID. You could die from COVID. There's an uptick. Right. And so the family members don't come in and check up on the, on the patient.
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+Because they're afraid in the early days of 2021 they wouldn't let family members in, but now they just have to scare them out.
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+Then they refuse to hydrate. Then they bring in what you call the family relationship counselor that comes in and explains to you.
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+And in a very gaslighting kind of way, why they can't give your loved one food or water or nutrients or basic health or even treat the conditions that they had in the first place.
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+They need to deal exclusively. It's super fishy that somebody like Shannon law, Shannon Joy, who's had Robert Malone on her stream, like three times or four times.
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+And it has lots of dissidents and ulterior opinions on here multiple times is having someone like Sasha Lata Pova on her stream, who she admits has been on many times before.
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+Now on to talk about the protocols.
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+I mean, you already had her on a few times. Maybe you should give the mic to somebody else like who actually lost a husband or a child or a mom.
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+To remdesivir to the protocols, rather than Sasha Lata Pova, who's not going to make a real effort to summarize the whole thing.
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+But now just going to talk about protocols with a smile on her face. I'm not really convinced she lost anybody. I don't think the person died.
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+I think they were just mistreated and almost died from these COVID kill protocols with COVID-19 witches, as you know, run death is near.
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+And then the ventilator, which typically and that's what they call remdesivir cynically in the hospitals that because so many people die from it.
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+So they send in the family relationship counselor, which is where we left off with you to to gaslight the family into allowing them to deny basic care correct.
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+And they would also not fill her other medication. So she obviously is an elderly. Everybody has some kind of a condition. She has an autoimmune condition, which has a very low blood pressure.
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+So she needs a medication that increases blood pressure, even though it was ordered in the hospital, they would not fill it for several days.
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+And they don't allow you to bring your outside meds.
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+So they would, and that's again, like if she doesn't have that medication, she can pass out. She can pass out on the ship, break a hip, fall down. Obviously, that's what they were trying to do. They were trying to make her worse.
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+Unbelievable. Unbelievable, but she's alive.
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+But they almost killed her. Mark, I bet you know a lot of people who are almost killed, huh? Almost killed. They're almost dead.
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+Lots of people are almost dead, but I'd really like to talk about for once the people who are dead.
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+That's what I'd like to talk about. Not the people who got COVID really early and it was super bad.
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+I want to talk about the people who are dead and what killed them.
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+Nobody ever seems to want to talk about what killed them.
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+I don't really get it. I don't get it. I don't understand. I don't know what's going on here.
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+But something is fishy about there being perhaps a hundred thousand people or more that you could have talked to that have genuinely lost people rather than somebody who almost lost somebody recently.
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+That you've had on your stream a few times already about stuff that's completely different and actually still relevant.
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+I mean, we're not even going to get an update on the batch story. Like, you know, you don't want to first update your on your first worldwide crazy story.
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+That's such a lot of Pova broke, but we're going to move right on to the protocols, which we could have talked about three years ago.
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+Are we going to talk about that? That's that's a that's a huge.
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+Are we going to now at some point stop and say, wait a minute, Sasha? Do you think that they've been doing this since the beginning?
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+I mean, what does that mean, Sasha? Does that mean that all the people that died? We're going to have to recalculate how many people died?
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+Is is Shannon Joy going to come to that question or not?
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+I don't know. I'm doubtful.
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+She is.
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+I witnessed her family's eyewitness to these disastrous devastating horrific murderous COVID-19 killed protocols that are rolled out across hospitals across the United States of America and handsomely incentivized with federal funding.
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+It's a tragic story. Luckily, Sasha, your relative, your loved one has pulled through. You were able to get her out and she is on the mend at home, but there's more to the story.
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+We come back. We're going to continue this so that you guys understand exactly what you could potentially be in for, especially as we have the new variants released.
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+We have the government talking about lockdowns and masking and and it's almost as if that's COVID-19 2.0, but we're going to continue this discussion with Sasha in a moment.
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+I'm Shannon Joy show.
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+Welcome back everyone to the Shannon Joy show. If there's anything that I'm sorry, it seems to not go into the hospital. It seems like it seems like there's some people in the chat that are confused about something.
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+The transfection is killing people without COVID. I mean, there are some people who get sick from COVID again, and I'm sure there's some antibody, dependent enhancement and whatever, but I don't think there's a lot of circulating anything.
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+And I think the transfection is causing all kinds of different autoimmune reactions and it's probably causing clotting problems in most people because again, you're repeatedly transfecting your, your endothelial cells.
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+I'm sure there's an increase in all cause mortality. Now I'm sure it's caused by the transfection and I'm sure it's caused by an almost endless list of possibilities.
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+It probably also includes protein misfolding and amyloidogenesis or amyloidosis and it probably also includes some rare cases of prion disease because you're transfecting people with with codon optimized chemically altered mRNA that's at different
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+properties depending on which batch you get. So sure, of course there's all cause mortality now that's increased over baseline. That's exactly what Denny Rancor shows and it correlates with boosters, even better than it did with the first two shots.
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+What are you whining about that? I'm not blaming that all cause mortality on the spike protein specifically, but I'm blaming it on all of it.
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+The transfection in its entirety and everything that comes along with it, the good batches, the bad batches, the high quality, the low quality, the stuff that was cold, the stuff that wasn't, the lipid nanoparticles that were small, the ones that weren't, the ones that were positive when they were should be or negative when they weren't.
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+All of that.
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+It's absurd to think that you aren't admitting that you were responsible or anybody that was responsible for starting this narrative because people were.
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+There were people, biologists, doctors, teachers, lawyers that were saying that we shouldn't do what we did in 2020. It doesn't make sense.
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+Well, Wolfgang Woda and Mr. Sparkle Mike Eden.
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+And so those people are heroes and people who were talking about a billion dead are part of the problem. That's the truth. You got to live with it.
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+This is why so many people are going to the wellness company to get a second opinion to get early care for COVID-19 and a host of other issues people do not trust the hospital system.
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+They want to stay out of the hospital system. Frankly, they want to stay away from their own medical doctors because they don't trust them anymore.
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+This is where the wellness company comes in. Our good friend, Dr. Peter McCullough. He's a chief executive or he is the chief scientific officer over at the wellness company. This is why we trust their doctors.
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+We trust their nurses. We trust their, their nurse practitioners and the host of supplies.
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+So you can see it in the chat now again. If you care to look, here's Commander McCoon saying, how did Australia have reduced all cause mortality during the VAX administration?
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+He won't consider the possibility that they lied about the batches in Australia, that they lied about the deaths in Australia.
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+And he's assuming that they shut down and that they stopped a viral spread. So Commander McCoon is perpetuating the narrative of the faith, which is that there was a novel virus.
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+We had to do something like make masks. The RNA could have worked, but we chose the wrong protein. And because it was gained a function, a virus could come again.
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+So Commander McCoon is just like all the other people on that screen where we looked at back there, where they believe that something's going to come again because they make these things.
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+And so if you want to listen to a person who's not willing to look into the biology far enough to realize that an RNA virus can't do that, and only an infectious clone could, I don't know what to tell you.
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+But he's spending almost all of his time over the last three years following me and trying to make me trip up, and he's still here now in my chat.
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+It should tell you a lot about where we are and what we've been up to and how close we are to the truth.
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+We have full time dedicated trolls that are more than 18 years old that have a full time job of doing this.
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+The issue of not feeling her other medications is important. They also were.
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+Now they're talking about not filling the ladies medication. So again, we're still not talking about a dead person.
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+But we're dragging on the idea that people who go to the hospital with COVID get treated poorly.
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+Even when they have all kinds of smart people advocating for them, they get treated poorly.
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+Is that news to anybody? Is anybody surprised that people that go into the hospital with COVID get treated poorly or get get treated incorrectly?
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+And is it any surprise then that that we're having, why are we having her talk about it if she actually didn't lose anybody?
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+What is going on here?
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+What is this about?
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+Once you start to think carefully about what this is about, Sasha Latipova did a substack two days ago where she dunked on George Webb.
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+Now she did make a lot of fun of George Webb and it seemed pretty harsh to make so much fun of George Webb.
+
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+But on the other hand, you could just ignore George Webb.
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+Just like Robert Malone could ignore George Webb.
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+And it's weird that Sasha Latipova writes a whole substack about George Webb without ever mentioning that Mark and I have completely dismissed George Webb and Paul Catrell as two guys that almost certainly must be weirdos, medlers in this whole thing.
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+Because George Webb didn't get on 60 minutes because he's a real alternative reporter down in the mud.
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+And Robert Malone didn't share on his substack no less than two times the link to that 60 minutes promoting George Webb for nothing.
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+Because if Robert Malone didn't want you to know about George Webb then he wouldn't have shared those links twice.
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+And if Sasha Latipova wanted George Webb to go away or really wanted to dunk on George Webb she can't say that she's not aware that we just did it a few weeks ago.
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+And that we did it to his face. We did it with the protocols about the protocols.
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+It was about the protocols that George Webb blocked us.
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+Because we said that him and Paul Catrell and Kevin McCarron and all the people that were in the darkest corners of the internet talking with certainty about how this was going to be a worst case scenario.
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+It was a red dragon event.
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+These people are responsible for seeding the fear that made the lockdowns possible, the masks possible, the school shutdowns possible, the anger possible.
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+The fear that got us all the way to the spring where we were injecting old people with something.
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+And they're all responsible for it because they shouldn't have been as certain as they were and either they were really dumb or somebody gave them reason to be certain.
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+And it's very easy to understand how that would happen. One phone call just don't talk about this.
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+You know, hey, talk about the fear and cleavage site.
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+How the heck did those people know about the fear and cleavage sites so early and none of them were virologists?
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+How did the author of this book know about the fear and cleavage site in February of 2020 when he's just a pathologist and a guy who wrote a book about autism?
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+How was he able to look at the sequence of the spike protein and know to write a blog about the spike protein and its fear and cleavage site in February of 2020?
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+Earlier than Dan Saratkin wrote his Harvard to the big house blog so early that he was cited at it.
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+How did this guy know that?
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+How did Paul Catrell know that the spike protein would have affinity for CD147 before anybody else on the planet?
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+Those are the questions that we were asking and saying that if those people had reason to have some Taiwanese lady on their stream and say in February that Remdesivir was the only thing that was working.
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+That's a little strange and maybe these people were seeding a narrative that then was acted upon and enacted and they helped it be so that even in the darkest corners of the Internet, people were on narrative.
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+People were saying the right things, the rumors that they needed to be there were present in February of 2020.
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+And if George Webb is working with Paul Catrell and still working with Paul Catrell and working with Addy Ads before the pandemic, and then now Paul Catrell and Addy Ads call Kevin McCarron and myself to be on stream,
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+what are the odds that Kevin McCarron and I and Paul Catrell and Addy Ads are all coming together by chance for five streams in a row?
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+What are the odds?
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+What are the odds that the two guys on that stream are that are knowing anything?
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+One of them is posing as a doctor but it's actually got a PhD in finance and the other one is a neurobiologist who happened to have a connection with a Pitt faculty member named, I can't remember his name at the top of my head, it doesn't matter.
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+He had worked with in California that now worked at Pitt.
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+It's a bunch of weird little connections. He also had one of the first cases in Japan because he got sick in Korea.
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+This whole thing is connected because now she writes a blog about George Webb.
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+She gets on here about the protocols.
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+Her main story is really the batches but now when you get on here we don't even update the batches, it's like the batch story never happened.
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+Isn't the batch story potentially still happening?
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+Isn't it possible that there are still hot batches and not hot batches now?
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+Wouldn't you at least want to ask about that instead of spending the whole time talking about the fact that she couldn't get apple juice?
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+Unless we're still seeding and co-opting the narrative.
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+We wouldn't want to bring in a victim or two.
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+We wouldn't want to bring in the families of people that have actually lost people to Remdesivir over the last three years because that might be a more relevant thing to an eyewitness account of the Remdesivir kill protocol in US hospitals which clearly this is not
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+if the relative didn't die.
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+What's going on here?
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+This is an eyewitness account of the Remdesivir kill protocols.
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+Why aren't we hearing it?
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+But instead it's this little tiny closed ecosystem of people.
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+And the walk is so very, very tiny.
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+Because Robert Malone has been on Shannon Joy several times.
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+She is on here several times.
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+Robert Malone has promoted George Webb several times.
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+Sasha Latopova has written a whole sub stack about George Webb just recently.
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+And yet Mark and I have had a run in with George Webb that resulted in him swearing at Mark and blocking us both for saying that he might be responsible for something.
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+When anybody that was saying it's a worst case scenario bio, bio terrorist attack that's spreading around the world in 2020 was kind of responsible for seeding some fear that turned it out to be unfounded.
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+And given the fact that the transfection is actually the real danger anybody that scared people enough so that they considered the possibility that a gain of function virus might be worse than a then a transfection is responsible.
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+And so anybody that was saying there's going to be 10 billion or a 1 billion people dead and that we should make masks because this is really a virus you don't want to get because it's novel and you don't know what it'll do to you.
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+Because your T cells to the RNA dependent RNA polymerase of other coronaviruses are useless for this one.
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+I see a I see a problem here, because we should have started talking about the batches by now.
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+And if we're going to get to all the way to the end of this interview without her talking about the batches that is a huge red flag.
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+Because the batches are still going on what about the boosters are we are we worried about the batches in the boosters Sasha, because that's your expertise.
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+And that gaslighting and saying, you know, well, our guideline is that the blood pressure must be at this level. And we're like, we know, you know, this is the person who has been treated for this condition.
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+This is what her doctor prescribed and you were telling me, you know, you know, this is our guidelines and like her care is only up to our guidelines.
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+Oh, no, you know, the EPIC system, which is the system that they use to put all the electronic medical records and the EPIC system is not allowing us to fill this medication, which is nonsense again.
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+She's been, you know, in this system for a long time. She had these medications. These are the medications were prescribed by her physician again.
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+And anybody can anybody anybody any prescribing physician can override EPIC system. It has, you know, they have that capacity. Anyway, so that's not a gaslighting tactic they were telling her.
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+So, and then the most important thing why I think this is a separate. So, and I know legally it is a separate part of health care. It's not actually health care. It's countermeasure.
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+COVID exercise is a countermeasure. And it's, it's very, very evil in sinister how they've done it.
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+So I know that this particular ward and and I know this practice is practiced all over the country in these key hospitals, key hospital systems that designate these COVID words.
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+These COVID words are separate managed separately funded separately. And the staffing is specific to that COVID ward. And what was very sinister is nobody would give their names, their full names.
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+They refused, even though we were trying to get their full names, the personnel, the nurses.
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+Okay. So now this is where I think it gets important. And I think it gets very good because the the accusation that now I think is coming out and will come out in the next five minutes.
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+Is that there are certain hospitals in certain cities that have COVID special COVID wards that are manned by people other than the people of that hospital.
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+And they may be associated with the Department of Defense in some way or Homeland Security.
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+And so not every hospital has one of these COVID wards with like special people working there.
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+But apparently there was one where her relative was. Now, this is the case.
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+Then it would make a little more sense why we're talking to Sasha.
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+Because maybe she has a greater insight into how.
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+How aberrant the treatment was here and how aberrant the.
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+Let's say set up of the staffing and the setup of the manning of this particular part of the hospital was.
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+So I think we should listen to this part very carefully because if she describes it sufficiently, it should be something that we can look for around the United States and identify places where this is occurring.
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+I mean, doctors must also be aware that there's this wing in a hospital where people are just doing other stuff or they don't have their name tags on or we don't know them.
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+So if they're not given their names or they're not wearing a badge that says their full name and that's what she seems to be saying.
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+Then we should be able to find these COVID wards in places and get people in there to make photographs or something to document that this is going on.
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+This is a huge, huge accusation here that if it's true, would blow the lid off of this thing.
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+Because then the government role in increasing the appearance of a pandemic and the dangerousness of it would become apparent.
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+So this would be important for everybody. And in theory, any hospital could have this COVID ward and staffing like this and just be apparently unaware of it.
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+And so we need to spread this message if this is true. Listen carefully.
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+Would refuse to give their names. And on their badges, there were only first names, not last names.
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+And oftentimes it was, they wore them or they would put stickers in them such that you can't even read that.
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+And.
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+Sasha, isn't it law? Isn't it state or federal? I'm not sure what it is, but don't most laws and most states require that anyone providing medical care or anyone in that official capacity of nurse or medical doctor.
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+Or you know, you know, in the hospital that they provide their credentials that they are credentialed and people can know who they are so that if God forbid they get bad care, they can, they can report it or they can.
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+I would have made a photograph of these IDs.
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+You know, like.
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+Again, I'm not, I'm not convinced that Sasha was in the hospital, although she's speaking as though she was.
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+I think she's relaying a second hand account of somebody else telling her that the people weren't identifying themselves. I don't know. But so far from the story, I don't pick up that this is her experience.
+
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+Isn't that, isn't that just standard protocol? Absolutely. It's, it's, it's, it's absolutely the law.
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+As far as I know that, you know, anybody who has provided care and build your insurance for that is supposed to provide their full name and their credentials and their license number. And in any case, even if they.
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+So I started looking up their various articles now online saying, Oh, no, nurse is requested to not put their full names on badges because for their safety. And that's like, okay, well, it's interesting.
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+However, maybe that's the case on their badges. But if you point blank refuse, like if you ask them, I need the name of the provider.
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+And, you know, and they refuse that's I find it extremely strange. Yeah.
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+So, so they refuse to give the names. I think these people are separately assigned federally funded for this particular exercise because all of this is going under a bar.
+
+43:45.000 --> 43:49.000
+And DOD funded Colvin countermeasures.
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+Can we, can we remind the audience of what you found? So this is really building on the body of research that you began to compile a little over a year ago.
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+It's different though. I really, I really caution you to not get sucked into the generalities here.
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+Because her and Catherine Watt uncovered the paperwork that shows that the Department of Defense was involved in the contracting of the production of the vaccines. There's no doubt about it.
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+And so it was the production of the countermeasures and their production by the DOD that grants them the their place under the prep act to begin with the prep act being in play and emergency being declared by HHS.
+
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+Kind of conscript the military in automatically and the DOD makes countermeasures. So these were countermeasures. That's what they chose to do. That's what they did. Barda may be involved.
+
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+But the idea of that bureaucracy being responsible for orchestrating the distribution and everything is very different than having a military staffed anonymous.
+
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+Anonymous COVID ward in a hospital because that's a big deal. That's very different than, you know, saying that how the, how the COVID response worked involved the military and HHS and, and the prep act. I think we know that.
+
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+And I think it's important to find out exactly who was involved and how it happened and where it was screwed up and whatever.
+
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+But now she told us two stories here. She told us a story about people in a hospital who were wearing badges that were covered up in a ward of the hospital where they were doing the remdesivir death protocol.
+
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+But her, her relative managed to get out alive despite getting in that death machine.
+
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+And so I'm still kind of confused what the message is here. But now we're pivoting back and we're going back to something else that isn't directly related to this, which is this bigger issue of we need to get rid of the prep act.
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+We need to get rid of the Vaccines Act from 1986 yada yada yada. Of course we do.
+
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+That's why everybody's talking about the who instead.
+
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+Because if we talk about the who we're not talking about the brass tax of just changing the American laws that allow the emergency to be declared in the first place.
+
+46:25.000 --> 46:40.000
+Blowing the whistle on this idea. It wasn't Fauci or, or HHS or President Trump enforcing and rolling out these COVID-19 lockdown protocols, whether it's the lockdown, the masking, the distancing.
+
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+The treatment protocols coming from the CDC, you were able to identify and isolate government documentation, essentially establishing that all the responses to COVID-19 were coming out of the department of defense and the Pentagon.
+
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+This is a military operation.
+
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+That's that everything was, you know, it isn't a COVID-19 treatment protocol. It is a COVID-19 countermeasure, meaning we are at war.
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+We should be clear that the executive branch is the head of the military, right? So.
+
+47:20.000 --> 47:27.000
+Donald Trump was commander in chief and now we're talking about Joe Biden being the commander in chief.
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+So although they keep saying military, military, military, what this really means is the executive branch and health and human services was directing the military via the commander in chief.
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+That's how you have to see it. That's where the buck stops. The buck is not going to stop at generals because the generals do what they're told.
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+And in fact, that's the reason why blaming the military is a little weird because the military is not something that spins out of control.
+
+47:59.000 --> 48:07.000
+The military is a huge bureaucracy that's hard to maneuver within and everybody follows the rules because they know if they do, they're protected.
+
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+And I know this from talking to a lot of military people. I'm not a military person myself, so maybe Charles Rixi can correct me.
+
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+But it is not probably fair to blame the military for something when the military is ultimately under the command of the executive branch and certainly during a health emergency declared by HHS, which is part of the executive branch,
+
+48:36.000 --> 48:44.000
+a military distribution of a countermeasure is definitely under the direction of the executive branch.
+
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+And so I think the precision of their language is a weird kind of precision where they keep repeating over and over again, the DoD and the Pentagon and the DoD and the Pentagon without ever mentioning that the DoD and the Pentagon don't generally do anything unless the chief of,
+
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+you know, the head and the HNIC says something.
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+So it's a strange kind of inaccuracy that's a red thread through all of this work from her and Catherine Watts, that I get it.
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+I know what you're trying to say, but you make all these charts and you show all these organizations that are connected to each other,
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+and you keep failing to admit or point out that above HHS is the president of the United States.
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+And they are battling. It's essentially in the scope of a war being waged.
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+And so anything that they do, this is why they could get away with having a completely separate wing that is staffed potentially by government officials, not the nurses that you think.
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+You know, are there. It's a whole different operation. Is that what you're trying to explain to the audience there?
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+Yeah. And even if those nurses have previously worked or are currently employed by Highland or UMC as real nurses with real credentials,
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+people need to understand that this is a quench. So that's the main lie that they do.
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+There's a hospital and hospital staffing, hospital procedures regulated by house laws in the state, regulated by federal.
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+So all of that is regular. Then the same people can be taken out and under military contract, they become military contractors.
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+Even if it's the same person going between the two floors, when they're on this floor, it's funded by the military contract and none of these regular rules apply.
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+They have immunity. Right. They have. I mean, yeah, there's a whole legal preparedness that has been done by FDA and HHS.
+
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+And I have all these letters that HHS sent it to healthcare providers of how to stay within the guidelines of the prep act, how to do everything so that you are completely absorbed.
+
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+Even if you're killing people, as long as you are reporting those kills within seven days, you are absorbed.
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+Oh, my words. Yeah.
+
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+Now you don't know this for sure. This is a strong suspicion at this point, correct?
+
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+Well, I know for sure these activities are funded. I have contracts that describe how these activities are funded and legal, legal memos, how these activities are funded.
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+I'm not saying that nurse Susie that was hiding her name on the floor is actually a military nurse.
+
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+No, she's probably a regular nurse found from a staffing agency and self selected into this because she has no moral compass.
+
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+But nurse Susie is funded by the Department of Defense. Therefore, she's Department of Defense staff. And the way the HHS legal preparedness letters are written is if you follow all these protocols and you funded under this structure.
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+It's basically like you are now a soldier, like a part time soldier, even if you're like in the side of place. And if you follow all these orders, like soldiers are supposed to, no matter who you kill or injure, you're absorbed of any responsibility.
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+So now I think it's now we're hearing what exactly she's formulating here. What she's saying is, is that these people have been absolved of medical malpractice as long as they follow the protocols that they are given.
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+And so because they're also being funded or they're getting money from the federal government, now it's starting to feel a little different.
+
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+So it's the one weird part I still have is the idea that they were covering their IDs and they weren't telling their names because if that could be corroborated, that feels like a pretty big red flag.
+
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+But it also could easily be one of those things that's here in the story, but we're not going over it anymore.
+
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+I mean, I would love to have one picture of this or one video of this where somebody is saying, but you can't tell me your name with a cell phone video or something.
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+It's a huge accusation. She's saying that there were a hole. There was a whole wing in this hospital where people were not telling their names and not giving their names.
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+And some of them even had their IDs covered. And it was in this part of the hospital that they were treating COVID or the death protocols were giving out.
+
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+It's a very big accusation then to come back around and just casually not talk about it anymore. Again, we have no dates.
+
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+We don't know how long ago this was. You know, if this was last week, we could go to the hospital right now and find out what room she was in and go to that ward and see if these people are really covering their IDs or not and then find out what's going on.
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+Do you see what I'm saying? This is a really big deal. If somebody told me that there was a ward at the UPMC hospital in Shadyside where there were people being treated for COVID, some with remdesivir and all the people that were working on that floor had their name tags covered and wouldn't tell you what their last name was, I'd go there with the camera right now.
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+It's a really big deal to say that because that is a significant ramping up from the hospital administrators are taking money from the government and also taking indemnity from the government.
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+And that's why they're doing these protocols because they're getting paid from the government. It's very different than saying that all the people in the ward are covering their name tags because they're all doing it together.
+
+55:04.000 --> 55:24.000
+Do you see this? Do you see how clear this is and how important it is to see it for what it is? Because this is two people talking, creating this illusion of consensus by them. Oh, gosh. Yeah. Wow. Amazing. No way. I can't believe that.
+
+55:24.000 --> 55:35.000
+And so you think you're listening to this privileged conversation and what they tell you seems plausible and you believe it because of the illusion of consensus they're creating by their agreement.
+
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+And they just agreed that isn't it crazy that these nurses aren't giving out their names that they're putting stickers over their names.
+
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+And it's because they all work for the government. They're taking money and they know they can do whatever they want because they're already absolved of any malpractice by the government.
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+That's a huge accusation.
+
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+It's different than saying doctors don't know what they're doing because they were scared in 2020. This is 2023.
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+If this is still going on now with people hiding their name tags, we need to storm that hospital.
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+But we don't even know how recently it happened. We don't even know if it was this month, last month or, or just after the new year.
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+That is utterly astounding. And one of the things that that that stood out to you in this experience was the callus.
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+I definitely believe there are hospital murders you silly people.
+
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+But the hospital murders in 2020 were caused by people being afraid by people being terrified by the news, the endless news, the stuff on the social media.
+
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+You know, people saying there might be a billion dead.
+
+56:57.000 --> 57:06.000
+People sharing the video of Kyle Seidel and saying that obviously it's much worse than a flu.
+
+57:06.000 --> 57:15.000
+People saying that stuff was spreading around the world when it wasn't spreading around the world, but something else was going on.
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+Some people were sick and a lot of people were killed by protocols that shouldn't have ever been done.
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+There's video of this, of me saying that people are being ventilated when they shouldn't be ventilated.
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+And maybe if we just treated them right, none of these people would be dying.
+
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+And in that same video, Kevin McCarran says that one billion people are going to die and maybe it's the worst case scenario. New York seems to be our best Petri dish right now.
+
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+But now we see from Jessica Hawkins data that there was never any spread in New York.
+
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+Just four weeks of bad protocols and no resuscitations.
+
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+And yet now you want to fight about particular details about the spike proteins toxicity or whether or not there's pre onogenic potential in it.
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+And whether or not somebody said one of those things first.
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+It's just a spectacular commitment to lies. That's all we are surrounded by.
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+And I'm afraid that what we're seeing here is some weird manifestation of the same thing, where the narrative is trying to be absorbed by players that are already in the cast.
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+Because again, as I said, it's very curious that we've been talking to such a lot to pull, and we didn't at least start with an update on the batches.
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+I mean, even Kevin McCarran can tell you the batches are something that he spent a lot of time on.
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+58:46.000 --> 58:54.000
+He spent many streams using a light microscope to debunk the possibility that there was any graphene in the shots.
+
+58:54.000 --> 59:03.000
+He spent many streams using light microscopy and dried up vaccine to show that there was nothing in the shots that was dangerous.
+
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+He even mixed a vaccine with blood on his light microscope to show that I guess there was no clotting or something. I don't remember what he wanted to show there.
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+But then he did some other more more special specialized microscopy ramen spectrometry or something like that, where you could look at individual elements in the shot and show that there was no phosphorus.
+
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+And so he demonstrated that there were placebo batches, but then he's asking in the chat, how is it that there was no, there was no extra mortality in Australia when they rolled out the shot, but he's the one who streamed live showing that the vaccine didn't have phosphorus in it.
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+So maybe that's why there was no excess mortality in great numbers in Australia because they diluted half the shots. I don't know. It's a crime.
+
+59:57.000 --> 01:00:04.000
+When you call 911, you don't have to have all the answers.
+
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+And I don't think that we have all the answers. I think we're still being led by our nose here because I don't think that this is a genuine attempt to account for what the protocols actually did here.
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+I think this is, this is there's something else going on here. I just don't get it.
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+Hold and calculating nature of the staff on the COVID-19 floor in Highland Hospital under the umbrella of URMC that it was, it didn't feel like a typical hospital care situation felt different to you guys.
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+01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:53.000
+Absolutely different because I mean, you know, we've gone to, and family members have gone to various hospitals. I live on the West Coast, even California hospitals where I think it's like the last place I would go.
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+But you know, some ER visits happened, ski injury and so forth.
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+None of this was, there was normal care. It was, you know, how you would expect and sometimes busy times and overloaded.
+
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+But everybody was, you know, like you would expect the healthcare environment to be. They cared about you. They were reasonably responsive.
+
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+Nobody tried to do anything untoward. This was a totally different universe. Totally different universe. This was a, like a, like a twilight zone.
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+01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:39.000
+Graphcast experience when they would come in and guess like you and say, we so care, we so care about your COVID that we're going to just do all this other really evil stuff.
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+You know, this is very, very concerning because we are moving now into another.
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+They hope lock down 2.0 scenario as new variants emerge.
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+We know that here in New York state, the quarantine camps governor, Hokel and New York state legislators are fighting like hell to keep those quarantine camps on the books.
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+And, you know, this leads, you know, me, you, Sasha, I had Ed Dowd on the program yesterday. He is below, like, ringing the alarm bells. This is not over.
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+This is not over, not by a long shot. We are right at the beginning of this. And if they're able to establish those, I mean, essentially what, what I'm seeing here, and we're going to talk about this more in the next, in the next segment.
+
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+But, you know, this looks to me as if they really want to keep this established government kill protocol going, and they want to continue to study it and deploy it, even though we're technically out of our cages.
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+We're not an emergency situation, but they want to make sure that the American people are acclimated to systemic killing in the hospital.
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+This is, this is, this is very reminiscent of the years prior to the erection of the concentration camps in the Holocaust that occurred in Germany in World War II.
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+I'm going to ask you about those similarities when we come back within the T4 action, because we know that they were systemically killing the elderly, the disabled, gypsies, homosexuals, minorities in German hospitals years before they ever began the practice
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+of, of, you know, genocide on the Jewish population. And this is why we need to be very concerned. We'll be back in a moment with Sasha Lotta Pova on the Shannon choice.
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+With a relative indeed were military operation in the fog of war. She is now able to explain to people exactly how they are doing this, and it is chilling. It is terrifying. Please follow Sasha Lotta Pova on Twitter.
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+Her handle is at Sasha underscore Lotta Pova, and make sure to follow her and support her on her sub stack due diligence and art, and maybe even buy some of her artwork because I know that you saw the artwork on your sub stack as well.
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+Sasha, this is very concerning.
+
+01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:02.000
+This is very concerning. Most people think that these kill protocols have ended.
+
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+Yeah, I forgot to mention one thing that they did try to sneak in the rear.
+
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+Oh, my word.
+
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+When nobody was watching and that's another thing to be prepared for because had our relative was, you know, maybe a little bit not there or incoherent or just like they did this to a number of disabled people.
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+Even though we, as I said, we had power of attorney, we put the, we put on the chart explicitly, no room, we talked to them about no room, no room, there's a beer.
+
+01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:40.000
+Then in the evening, another nurse shows up and says, Oh, we're here to start your emdesivir treatment.
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+01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:48.000
+At which point my relative was no, you know, like very, very forceful saying no.
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+01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:54.000
+And, but they did try to do that. So again, because that would kick in all these incentives.
+
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+So, so that's, that's a, that's a extremely concerning thing. And, and another thing is you're absolutely right about government.
+
+01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:09.000
+Governor Hochl trying to get these quarantine camps going because the emergency is not over.
+
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+We, we, we, the public health emergency is not over. It's not illegally not over. You know, Biden made that announcement that was national emergency that he ended the public health emergency the HHS one is still on.
+
+01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:38.000
+And they have rewritten it in a set in such a way to say that not just the scary scary virus, but the potential for scary scary virus. So now they change the language saying that any we have now permanent state of emergency because there's a potential for scary
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+01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:50.000
+scary virus. Well, you know what, there's potential for asteroid heat in the earth. And for the purpose, we need to be in a permanent state of emergency and give our government all these enormous powers, suspend the constitution forever.
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+And have them do whatever they please, they want to do with this with these hospital kill protocols.
+
+01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:11.000
+That is absolutely terrifying and chilling. And we know they're trying it again. I mean, we are, we are moving into all of the calls for the masking and the lockdowns and universities and businesses. Luckily, there's been a lot of pushback Sasha.
+
+01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:27.000
+A lot more pushback than there was in 2020. But this is by no means over. And on a side note, I want to invite all of you and make sure that you are, you are, you have it in your calendars next Wednesday on the 13th.
+
+01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:37.000
+And that is September 13th, Bobby and Cox is going to be in Rochester, New York. Isn't it a weird how this all happens in Rochester, New York? I marvel at this.
+
+01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:56.000
+She is defending her win in front of an appeals panel at 50 East Avenue Avenue in the city of Rochester, New York, as Kathy Holkel and her goons seek to, to make permanent the regulations establishing concentration camps in New York.
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+01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:12.000
+They're fighting like hell. This is why you all need to be there. Take the day off of work. Cancel school for your kids. It's a civic lesson. They, they need to learn this. We need to turn out hundreds upon hundreds of people to show the state and that appeals court and Kathy Holkel and any of these lawmakers.
+
+01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:27.000
+We're not going to stand for this, that these, these concentration camps will not stand in New York state. And as we know from our good friend, Mary Holland over at the Children's Health Defense, if they take the coasts, they take the country. That's why they are doing this in California.
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+01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.000
+It's why they are doing this in New York.
+
+01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:36.000
+Did she just plug Mary Holland of CHD? That was a bit strange to me.
+
+01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:53.000
+Mary Holland of, of CHD just got a plug from Shannon in the middle of a Sajalatopova stream about taking the coasts in the election or something. I don't know what about mandates or something like that.
+
+01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:57.000
+That was a bit out of left field for me. Wow. Interesting.
+
+01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:06.000
+They're not letting go of it. In Sasha, you are ringing the alarm bell on this. What are your thoughts in terms? I mean, this, this is this.
+
+01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:09.000
+The acclimation of a society.
+
+01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:18.000
+Wasn't really right on killing inside hospitals. Tragically is not new. We saw this. We saw this in Germany in the years.
+
+01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:31.000
+They were not preceding the Holocaust in World War II. They were killing people systemically, legally in hospitals with the T4 action. And they were doing it for many years. Correct?
+
+01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:47.000
+Yes. People forget that the actual concentration camps did not start for nine years after the Nazis were in power. Right. So for nine years, they were moving people toward normalizing this idea that the hospital.
+
+01:08:47.000 --> 01:09:01.000
+The hospital can do whatever they want with you that they like, like they were practicing with these protocols. So that's the reason why they keep this sort of warm operational base going of these practices because that's how you scale anything.
+
+01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:13.000
+You have to have a base where you've ironed out all the kings and then you go big scale because that's now you have the, you know, you can transfer this knowledge on a large scale.
+
+01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:26.000
+And that's what they're ironing out over these past few years and then also normalizing the idea and giving everybody a moral sort of out to stand back and say, oh, well, no, that's that's public house.
+
+01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:40.000
+We're all in it together, you know, stop the spread, stay home for two weeks, all these BS slogans that they're telling you to give up your rights to look the other way, sing louder in churches.
+
+01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:44.000
+Forget what we're doing here on the COVID war that's all locked up.
+
+01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:47.000
+And we're gonna tell you anyway.
+
+01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:54.000
+And, and just be silent and quiet because it's for your safety and save grandma. Well, you know what they just tried to kill grandma.
+
+01:09:54.000 --> 01:10:01.000
+And, you know, so, so, so that's what people need to understand. It's not over.
+
+01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:12.000
+That you cannot comply your way into freedom. Okay. That's not just go. It's not going to happen. All you doing is you building yourself a prison and your children a prison.
+
+01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:22.000
+Yeah. So that's why we have to be more vocal and stop and resist and absolutely go to that hearing and show them that you're not going to put up with this BS.
+
+01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:27.000
+Yeah, nine a.m. 50 East Avenue next Wednesday, September 13.
+
+01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:35.000
+We're hosting a fundraiser for Bobby and Cox on Tuesday, the day before at Paneveno on the river. I want to invite you guys to that as well.
+
+01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:46.000
+Five to seven p.m. where we will, we will gear up, but this is, this is of utmost importance, importance, especially Sasha. Oh, and by the way, killing hospitals of the third break.
+
+01:10:46.000 --> 01:11:01.000
+And if you want to watch an excellent documentary, I think it was BBC potentially or another documentary company that detailed the killing hospitals of the third right and how they normalized and even, even
+
+01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:10.000
+how they realized the systemic killing of these individuals saying that it was, it was good for humanity. It was, it was to achieve the cleaner race.
+
+01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:21.000
+It was to rid Germans of these pesky pesky genetic disorders with a thought were genetic disorders. I'm very chilling, chilling justification.
+
+01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:32.000
+Remember, it was primarily medical doctors that were prosecuted at Nuremberg wasn't military officials and, you know, or there were fewer of those. It was primarily in the hospitals.
+
+01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:44.000
+It's a, it's a nesticized way of killing that, that is, is truly chilling Sasha, absolutely chilling and we have to understand that we are nowhere near out of this.
+
+01:11:44.000 --> 01:12:00.000
+What are you thinking? I mean, we are moving into a political season, you know, where we have the two front running candidates, you know, Joe Biden and Donald Trump, the authors of our demise, the authors of the lockdown and, and the deployment of
+
+01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:15.000
+the warps feed and the, the, the COVID-19 killer vaccines. How important is it in your estimation that people get involved in this political process and make sure that these candidates are forced to talk about these issues or do you think that's
+
+01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:16.000
+not even possible.
+
+01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:22.000
+I don't think either of these two will talk about these issues. I mean, that's very, very clear. Well, Biden, of course not.
+
+01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:36.000
+If people had any last shred of hope that Trump would admit that this was a problem to forget it after the Tucker Carlson interview, which was complete softballing. I mean, like seriously, that was such a propaganda piece.
+
+01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:56.000
+So are we pivoting to Tucker Carlson and Glenn Beck before we're ever going to go back to the dose thing to the batch problem? Like, wouldn't the batch thing fit right in here because they rushed it and.
+
+01:12:56.000 --> 01:13:13.000
+And what I thought she had a whole like story about why this was so important and that why wouldn't we be looking into it in America as well and why wouldn't it matter for the booster and why isn't it part of this killing machine.
+
+01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:19.000
+And it's just such a weird thing to leave out for a whole hour.
+
+01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:32.000
+And now we're talking about Tucker Carlson and Glenn Beck and the political ramifications of not talking about what the protocols or the shot or the batches or the.
+
+01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:39.000
+Or the DOD's role in the distribution of of killing wards.
+
+01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:55.000
+I'm just I'm absolutely befuddled because you would hope that somebody that's been in as long as Sasha with such an interesting message for so long about how these batches are showing a different trend.
+
+01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:02.000
+And why that might be the best evidence for malfeasance, the best evidence for fraud.
+
+01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:17.000
+In order to overcome what happened and, you know, get some compensation for these people, we're talking about somebody who didn't even die didn't even get remdesivir as she said because they tried to sneak it in by lucky for us.
+
+01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:19.000
+We caught him.
+
+01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:23.000
+And now they're talking about Tucker Carlson and Glenn Beck.
+
+01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:38.000
+And Glenn Beck, like anyone, you saw it had a shred of journalistic integrity, forget it. So, and, and Trump obviously is absolutely lying and, and, and him and Biden did exactly the same thing, exactly the same agenda.
+
+01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:40.000
+One started one finished.
+
+01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:48.000
+And now is one, you know, they're trying to create this whole hoopla of presidential election over here to distract everyone from what.
+
+01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:58.000
+And that's what we need to focus on those things, the local, the state, what they're trying to do, what they're trying to push through.
+
+01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:15.000
+Now, another thing that's ongoing is people need to be aware is all these WHO IHR amendments. So they're trying to sign away our, so whatever they have done, they already broke every law and constitution on this issue now they're just trying to legitimize it and put it into actual law.
+
+01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:23.000
+Because right now, past three years, it was only guidelines. Nobody forced you. Now they're saying, oh, nobody forced you to vaccinate, right?
+
+01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:33.000
+It was only guidelines. But now they want to make it a law. And so they're working on the IHR amendments to sign away our freedoms. Biden is going to sign them.
+
+01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:40.000
+And in the state legislatures, I know several have been participant of the preparation meetings.
+
+01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:59.000
+They're trying to organize these listening sessions. What, you know, let's get together and discuss what was done well during the pandemic measurements and what wasn't so well and how can we make more pandemic preparedness, more bio defense, more resilience.
+
+01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:07.000
+So see what they're doing. They're selling everyone. What was done was totally great. It was legitimate. It had complete legitimacy.
+
+01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:16.000
+We had to suspend your rights and throw everything into the trash. But now we're just going to tweak it a little bit. So that's what they're trying to know.
+
+01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:28.000
+Again, that can't be a Zionist tool. Glenn Beck had all of Charles Rixie's time frame about gain of function on his show on three big whiteboards.
+
+01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:40.000
+How can Glenn Beck be a bad guy? He shared the entire gain of function Scooby new narrative on an elaborate three hour show.
+
+01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:50.000
+The key to the castle from Charles Rixie's own tutelage and didn't give Charles credit for it.
+
+01:16:50.000 --> 01:17:00.000
+I mean, I know Charles is really mad at me because he likes to be mad at me for something he did and Kevin did.
+
+01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:13.000
+But this Glenn Beck, it's like he's almost forgotten that Glenn Beck totally stole his entire narrative, made a whole show about it and then pretended like he figured it out all himself.
+
+01:17:13.000 --> 01:17:32.000
+It's also really weird that when the diffuse proposal was released by Veritas, Veritas didn't credit Charles Rixie and drastic for their three month long discussion about the report before they decided to release a PDF analysis of it.
+
+01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:47.000
+That also Veritas didn't seem to notice or care about. So it's almost like the diffuse proposal got released twice once by Charles Rixie and a bunch of foreigners that are actually mostly anonymous on Twitter.
+
+01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:58.000
+Sounds real patriotic. And Veritas, which, you know, you can call them really breaking news or you could call them kind of fake news.
+
+01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:05.000
+And if you look at the Pfizer video and that whole debacle, it's hard to take Veritas seriously.
+
+01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:23.000
+So again, the diffuse proposal was released by a Marine who had it for two months or something like that and decided to do an analysis with a bunch of anonymous people on the Internet on Twitter, who mostly are international non-Americans.
+
+01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:33.000
+And an organization called Veritas that never acknowledged that Charles Rixie was also involved in the release of the document.
+
+01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:38.000
+It's such a strange story, isn't it? So many twists and turns.
+
+01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:46.000
+And then to think that Sasha Latopova is promoting George Webb and Robert Malone is promoting George Webb.
+
+01:18:46.000 --> 01:19:05.000
+And George Webb is promoting Paul Catrell and Paul Catrell and Kevin McCarran and Addy adds, asked me to stream with them five times in March, April and May, when I was saying that natural immunity is superior and that I'm not sure what we're talking about here,
+
+01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:12.000
+but we better be careful before we lock down and close everything down and go crazy when we don't even know what we're talking about yet.
+
+01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:25.000
+Caution, slow, relax, and they were saying, freak out, worst case scenario, red dragon event.
+
+01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:32.000
+They're all connected. These people are all connected somehow. I don't know how or how.
+
+01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:37.000
+But these are not kurinky dinks.
+
+01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:52.000
+I only have 2,700 followers on Twitch. There's no reason for somebody in Japan to spend three years following my work, especially when my biology has just been immunology and anti-transfection.
+
+01:19:52.000 --> 01:20:00.000
+It hasn't been crazy and pointing out that when they make coronaviruses, most of the time they make clones.
+
+01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:05.000
+And so the moment I started talking about that was the moment that everybody lost their minds.
+
+01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:11.000
+And now they're trying to twist it around again, but it's all the same people, all the same people.
+
+01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:18.000
+And it comes right back to this here because why aren't we talking about batches and why are we talking about protocols?
+
+01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:27.000
+Because it's all the same screwballs, all the same weird stories, not being forthright. It's bizarre old.
+
+01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:34.000
+To orchestrate this whole like, oh, you know, there's this democratic process, but then they're going to turn around and sign whatever they were going to sign anyway.
+
+01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:41.000
+So that's what people need to focus on your local legislator, your even county commission, your sheriff.
+
+01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:52.000
+But these quarantine laws, that's what we need to focus on. Yeah, right now that presidential election stuff, both of those candidates are going to do exactly the same thing I guarantee you.
+
+01:20:52.000 --> 01:21:04.000
+Yes, I tend to agree with you there that local I always say the way to battle globalism or the global globalist encroachment is to defeat them at the point of implementation.
+
+01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:21.000
+So they can have all the nasty plans in the world. They can come up with the worst laws and the worst plans. But if they hit a brick wall at the local level where where the sheriff's the county health commissioners, the local legislators refuse to enact them or refuse to, you know, abide by those
+
+01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:28.000
+regulations or illegal unconstitutional laws, that's where it can all fall apart and that's where every American can get involved.
+
+01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:40.000
+And I think the danger Sasha is that we take our eye off of that local organization and the sharing of information across counties from California to Florida to New York State about local resistance.
+
+01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:57.000
+And we become distracted by the clown show, the bread and the circuses that are provided by the two party political system. And, and tragically the majority majority of what I call con ink, which is conservative ink, which is the media apparatus
+
+01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:08.000
+that ink it's all about the rest and, you know, selling of the merch and the buttons and the shot glasses and it's just this money money grubbing machine.
+
+01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:15.000
+They have no intention of whether it's because they're stupid or corrupt or a little bit of both I don't know.
+
+01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:19.000
+But we've got to get ourselves out of that that cycle right.
+
+01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:21.000
+Exactly, exactly.
+
+01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:24.000
+The local action.
+
+01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:33.000
+Well, when we come back this is, this is, this is chilling but it's also a wake up call Sasha a lot of popa this is why we love you. This is why we send everyone to your sub stack.
+
+01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:45.000
+Due diligence and art is Sasha a lot of popa's sub stack, you can find her on Twitter her handle is at Sasha underscore a lot of popa when we come back we're going to talk about University of Rochester.
+
+01:22:45.000 --> 01:23:01.000
+And then the Highland hospital is where Sasha uncovered the, the very real COVID-19 kill protocol she saw it in action. But this isn't the first time that you are MC has been involved in human experimentation and they are to this day, continuing to be involved in some
+
+01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:14.000
+really terrible stuff, a lab right here in Rochester, New York, studying the S V 40 right the S V 40 yes, which is, which is utterly insane essentially.
+
+01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:31.000
+Gain a function reason. I'm going to let you explain it because I'm going to angle it and you're much better with this at this stuff than I am. But this is, you know, you found out about, you know, in your research of you are, you are MC trying to save your loved one and figure out what was going on there.
+
+01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:52.000
+I'm a lab run by a man named Dr Dean. I'm openly admitting that there they are researching and using S V 40, which is the semi and virus 40 to hack human cells, which is, which is essentially, and I'm going to let you explain it when we come back but essentially
+
+01:23:52.000 --> 01:24:10.000
+gain a function research happening using human beings unwittingly. We don't even, you know, it's the rollout of the COVID-19 vaccine and the injection of S V 40 inches. Many Americans as possible is now contributing to this very wicked gain a function research that you think might be going on.
+
+01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:15.000
+It's crazy. We come back. I know I've mangled it. You can explain it back.
+
+01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:20.000
+When we come back right here on the Shannon Joy show.
+
+01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:31.000
+Next up can enjoy school in of our goal are over here and save your loved one, which thankfully let's give the audience a quick update.
+
+01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:37.000
+You know, this just this all just happened in the past two weeks, but how is your relative doing now?
+
+01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:46.000
+Oh, she's she's doing much better. She's at home and even started exercising. So it's, it's good. And we're, we're, we're very grateful.
+
+01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:53.000
+And, you know, very happy that we had a happy ending. Yeah, you were worried that you weren't going to be able to get her out.
+
+01:24:53.000 --> 01:25:06.000
+Yes, I was concerned about that because that was the case before, you know, at the beginning in 2020 people, they would be just kidnapped and I know several attorneys could not get their clients out.
+
+01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:20.000
+And, you know, their tragic attorney taught calendar. I talked to the client who the hospital, hospital attorneys told him point blank, your client where you're not going to get your client out.
+
+01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:31.000
+Your client is going to die here. And what happened? And when the body was released, he was starved to death. It was a grown man. And he was something like 80 pounds.
+
+01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:40.000
+So it's, it's extremely tragic what was happening. And knowing these stories, I was terrified and I was trying to get her out.
+
+01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:45.000
+And we were succeed successful. And, but that's why I want people to be aware of.
+
+01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:58.000
+So you were right. You were right, Mark. She didn't lose anybody. So the title of the protocol, I witnessed a count of the remdesivir kill protocol is not a good title.
+
+01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:13.000
+Because again, we're talking to somebody who didn't actually lose anything. She almost did. You know, like people who got sick in 2020. Well, I almost died from COVID. It was real bad.
+
+01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:25.000
+And be prepared for. So that's why, and that's why I'm telling nobody's denying the protocol exists. Go buzzkill. Stop being such a clown.
+
+01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:38.000
+The point is, is that the protocols were there to talk about in 2020. And people like Kevin McCarran were talking only about a virus. Even when I was talking about the protocols to his face.
+
+01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:42.000
+That's what we're talking about.
+
+01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:53.000
+I was saying on those streams with Paul Catrell and, and Kevin McCarran, that they were ventilating people that needed didn't need ventilating.
+
+01:26:53.000 --> 01:27:02.000
+That they were mistreating people instead of how they should be treated. And they weren't listening to doctors who were having success.
+
+01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:09.000
+And those guys would have nothing of it. It was a worst case scenario, red dragon event.
+
+01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:19.000
+And we should sit home and make masks because you never know. We might need to lock down for 60 days of we, we have to smash the curve.
+
+01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:32.000
+I'm sorry, but these, these people are posers. And as I've said right here in the chat, Charles is, is a liar about what happened with him and children's health defense.
+
+01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:47.000
+And this spirals all from there because as long as they're willing to lie about that, that all the rest of their story, you know, sounds like some kind of, you know, this guy said that guy said this.
+
+01:27:47.000 --> 01:28:06.000
+The bottom line is is that some people are liars and some people tell the truth. And it's unfortunate, but as painful as it is, I have been telling the truth as much as I can without giving away details that are personal or details that are
+
+01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:19.000
+somehow legally, probably not worth sharing. But there is no doubt. There is no doubt that he was legitimately let go because he was working on a book.
+
+01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:35.000
+And there was an agreement about working on that book that you don't show anybody else. And it appeared as though he was showing someone else who wasn't just some random person, but someone who had been streaming about the worst case scenario.
+
+01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:49.000
+And about the Jews. And about everything else, non politically correct, including the fact that Robert F Kennedy Jr was on, is on Epstein's network and an
+
+01:28:50.000 --> 01:29:11.000
+and so yeah, association with Kevin McCarran sometimes isn't the best, which is part of the reason why I think he had me and Mark Gulak on his website for so long, so that people associate us with him, which is the same reason why George Webb
+
+01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:23.000
+associates himself with people to dilute their impact to twist their impact or their findings or their message.
+
+01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:33.000
+And to associate himself with you so that everybody that discounts George Webb automatically discounts Mark, you satanic.
+
+01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:44.000
+And no matter what Mark does now, he's always going to be associated with George Webb and as long as George Webb is still clowning, Mark is going to have an anchor tied to his to his ankle.
+
+01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:58.000
+And in reality, I think that's what someone who pretends to be, you know, professional when it's time to be professional, but then goes on stream for three hours and is entirely unprofessional.
+
+01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:08.000
+Pushing every normal person who might find him away is doing it for a reason. He's doing it because his job is to do that.
+
+01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:13.000
+He's not trying to save the world by using racial slurs.
+
+01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:25.000
+He's trying to create something that can be attached to other people and cause them to be discredited, dragging other people down.
+
+01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:31.000
+And it's really how this machine works that everybody is absorbing the narratives.
+
+01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:36.000
+That's what George Webb was probably doing for four years, absorbing Mark's work.
+
+01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:43.000
+Have you ever seen Kevin McCarron use Mark's website as a backdrop for a discussion?
+
+01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:51.000
+Because Mark's website is so great and he's got all of these biographies wicked out for everybody to work on?
+
+01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:57.000
+Has Kevin ever done that to promote his friend Mark? Of course not.
+
+01:30:57.000 --> 01:31:11.000
+As Charles Rixie ever said anything like that about Mark, you know, I've got all these papers and I've read all these papers, but Mark's website is the best catalog of the people involved in this that I've ever seen.
+
+01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:17.000
+And Mark's work is so important. Have they said that? No.
+
+01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:22.000
+Instead, they make fun of Mark now because Mark's associated with me.
+
+01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:30.000
+Even though Mark's work stands on its own for four years, his website stands on its own.
+
+01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:36.000
+The last time they talked about Mark, they made fun of him.
+
+01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:52.000
+And I think they even made fun of him for, you know, whining or taking sympathy for his wife having lives or his family having lives and his son dying of COVID protocols or opiate overdose.
+
+01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:59.000
+Those are the kinds of people that are Commander McCoon in the chat.
+
+01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:02.000
+People that act like that.
+
+01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:11.000
+These are the kinds of gentlemen that want to have a debate with me and that you're fighting for and getting excited about.
+
+01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:17.000
+You see, these are all the kinds of destroying people that we have left.
+
+01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:20.000
+The only ones that are left.
+
+01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:29.000
+That's how close we are to actually penetrating this barrier of whatever you want to call it, fifth generation warfare, just nonsense.
+
+01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:33.000
+We're really close to breaking through the nonsense.
+
+01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:40.000
+And there aren't very many people who aren't part of the nonsense for one reason or another.
+
+01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:48.000
+But we're still not talking about the batch problem, even though the batch problem was the biggest story of 2021. We're not talking about it at all.
+
+01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:52.000
+It's extraordinary. Sorry.
+
+01:32:53.000 --> 01:33:05.000
+Yeah, you know your rights and be there again, take care of your bodies, make sure that you're taking your supplements that you're getting your vitamin D every day and you're seeing you guys know, you know, I'm an evangelist for all of this.
+
+01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:17.000
+Anything you can possibly do, lose the way to get off the alcohol, get off whatever it is you need to get off, keep your body healthy, because you do not, you do not want to go into these systems right now, even though there are still good people in them.
+
+01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:29.000
+So much of these systems has been corrupted. And so we need to go in with eyes wide open and, you know, look at these hospital systems. You mentioned, Sasha, that it is, it's not every hospital system.
+
+01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:46.000
+There are certain systems that are very closely aligned and tethered to government funding, federal funding, NIH funding, and a lot of these healthcare systems, you are MC, you suspect is one of those, but how many do you think across the country are not only engaging
+
+01:33:46.000 --> 01:34:03.000
+these kill protocols in these military operations, but also we're going to talk about this gain a function research and this Dr Dean in his lab using SV 40 which is found in the cobit 19 vaccines, right, to investigate, you know, attacking human cells.
+
+01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:07.000
+How many do you think are are in existence in the US.
+
+01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:20.000
+So there are many. I can't tell you exact number, but definitely hundreds. There are hospitals, exactly. So hospitals range, it's very curious.
+
+01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:27.000
+COVID illness is a very curious illness because you die in the hospital, depending on which hospital you're in.
+
+01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:36.000
+And closely they follow this hospital, COVID protocol, the death rate from COVID in hospital ranges from less than 10% to 70%.
+
+01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:44.000
+Wow. So you're saying that hospitals that are not tethered to the government funding or doing the cobit 19 protocol have a death rate of around 10%.
+
+01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:51.000
+And see, that's a really big accusation that somebody like John Bodeman would be able to chase down in a heartbeat.
+
+01:34:52.000 --> 01:35:04.000
+That somebody like, well, any of these people, Jessica Hawke could chase that down in a heartbeat. If that's true, then we should be able to look at hospitals and we should just be able to see protocol differences.
+
+01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:07.000
+We should be able to see success rates.
+
+01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:11.000
+And those pro those hospitals should have wards.
+
+01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:19.000
+And those wards should be manned by people that weren't supposed to be there by extra nurses or people that came in specifically with homeland security.
+
+01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:29.000
+And so these accusations, if they're real, we got to act on them now. We got to document this now so that these are not rumors so that they are real.
+
+01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:37.000
+And so again, it's like, sometimes it feels like, wow, are we really saying this? If we're saying this, then we've got to act.
+
+01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:42.000
+And then on the other hand, we go back to Tucker Carlson and Glenn Beck.
+
+01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:48.000
+It's a bizarre video because I don't really get it. I don't, I just.
+
+01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:53.000
+I want to know what Sasha's role in this. I want everybody to be a good guy.
+
+01:35:53.000 --> 01:36:00.000
+But the trouble is, is that Sasha came forward at a very weird time.
+
+01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:06.000
+And she came forward maybe to absorb Craig part of Cooper's role in this.
+
+01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:09.000
+Because where's Craig?
+
+01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:14.000
+You know, why aren't we still talking to him?
+
+01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:21.000
+It's just again, just odd to me that we're really talking entire hour about the protocols.
+
+01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:29.000
+We can all agree that the protocols were bad. A lot of us have been agreeing that the protocols were the majority of the deaths.
+
+01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:39.000
+Unlike Prometheus shrugged, a.k.a. Charles Rixi, I was never convinced that a million people were killed by COVID in America.
+
+01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:48.000
+I've never said that out loud. I've never written a sub stack about the million people that were killed by COVID in America.
+
+01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:54.000
+Because I'm pretty sure a million people weren't killed by COVID.
+
+01:36:54.000 --> 01:37:04.000
+And that's the problem that I have with some of the people who are so certain that they've been right for so long.
+
+01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:09.000
+And then they're waving the diffuse proposal around as if that's part of the reason why they're right.
+
+01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:13.000
+It's just not, it's not congruent with reality.
+
+01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:20.000
+What's congruent with reality is, is that you were certain a million people were going to die before a million people were killed.
+
+01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:29.000
+And then when a million people were killed, you were certain they were killed by the virus even though there was plenty of reason to know that they weren't.
+
+01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:35.000
+And that certainty led to people being uncertain about whether they should take the shot or not.
+
+01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:40.000
+And that led to a lot more people taking the shot than would have otherwise taken it.
+
+01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:58.000
+Had Kevin McCann and Paul Catrell and George Webb and Sasha Latipova and Robert Malone come forward in 2020 already and said, Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, this is a little crazy.
+
+01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:15.000
+Like Knute Wieckowski did, and like Mike Eden did, and like Wolfgang Woda did, like, like Pierre Corey did, and like, like Peter McCullough did.
+
+01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:21.000
+That's the problem that I have. You're posing as though you have this impeccable track record.
+
+01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:33.000
+When your impeccable track record is you haven't changed your mind since the very beginning. You've been convinced this was a worst case scenario from the very beginning, and you haven't really pivoted from it.
+
+01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:39.000
+Now it's the worst case scenario plus the vaccine.
+
+01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:53.000
+And the reason why you have to stay that way is because then you're not admitting that you are actually encouraged, encouraged to encourage that perspective.
+
+01:38:53.000 --> 01:39:01.000
+You believe that you guys had to be encouraged to push that perspective because you were too certain about it.
+
+01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:09.000
+And you've remained too certain about it. You've remained too ugly about it.
+
+01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:15.000
+And it's really the video evidence is there in your own record.
+
+01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:36.000
+And people that I've watched you know, it's just, it's just disingenuous stream after disingenuous stream, trying more to attack me than to push people out of this narrative to let them escape from the control of this mythology.
+
+01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:54.000
+And that's what I think Sasha is doing here now with this video. I think what she's doing is making it very hard for people to escape because she's still not saying anything about whether there was a reason for these protocols or the protocols just wrong.
+
+01:39:54.000 --> 01:40:01.000
+And she hasn't talked about the batches so apparently the shot is not a concern today, but maybe next stream.
+
+01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:06.000
+And so I find it frustrating all the time that people are coming on is just like that.
+
+01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:12.000
+That that conference that they did with Vay John health.
+
+01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:21.000
+Where you have a whole hour about the lipid nanoparticle and nothing else. And then a whole hour about censorship and then nothing else.
+
+01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:35.000
+And then a whole hour about I don't know really what he did, but he kind of talked a little bit about amyloid and a little bit about prion protein, but not in a very satisfactory way.
+
+01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:41.000
+And that's also another kind of frustrating thing right he's supposed to have been a guy who had his own lab in Korea.
+
+01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:53.000
+And so he ought to know how to give an hour long talk. And then he's given an hour long talk in front of an international conference and did you learn anything from Charles is one hour.
+
+01:40:53.000 --> 01:41:06.000
+Did you learn anything from Christine Grace's hour when she put a slide deck up that she didn't even read and just kind of flash through slides full of text.
+
+01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:15.000
+Did you learn anything from Kevin's presentation about about amyloidosis and and and prion disease.
+
+01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:31.000
+And that's that's their presentation. That was it because the rest of the time they're doing three hour streams with two little things in the corner and some irrelevant figure on there talking about how Jay is is having a weeds viral.
+
+01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:46.000
+Well, while Kevin sits in vapes the entire time clouds, you know, it's just a bizarre world we're in right now ladies and gentlemen is a bizarre bizarre bizarre world.
+
+01:41:46.000 --> 01:42:02.000
+And I am I am befuddled at the extent to which these these human beings are pushing this narrative still this narrative where it's consensus.
+
+01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:07.000
+Listen to this.
+
+01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:24.000
+I'm not even going to play it, but I played this before because when we're talking about is an illusion of consensus when these people talk on the TV about how we're talking about a lab leak or a natural virus that give you this illusion that this is the battle.
+
+01:42:24.000 --> 01:42:28.000
+This is the talk. This is the discussion.
+
+01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:38.000
+And this is the discussion that keeps you distracted from saying no from being totally no we're not going to do this anymore. There's going to be non compliance.
+
+01:42:38.000 --> 01:42:56.000
+And we're not going to let these laws stand in America. We need to change the prep act. We need to actually get it struck by taking a court case through regular state court getting a thrown out into federal court and appealing on the basis of the seventh amendment.
+
+01:42:56.000 --> 01:43:18.000
+And I don't know why we're not putting money into doing that. But for some reason, the VICP and the CICP are the two courts of choice still for the decision of vaccine courts. And that's a problem because we're never going to strike the prep act unless we hit it with the seventh amendment.
+
+01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:30.000
+That's the way out in America, or at least that's one way out in America. Another way out would be to elect people to change the prep act, which is probably a much, much, much crazier task.
+
+01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:39.000
+But this illusion of consensus isn't going to go away until we stop listening to people who are sustaining it.
+
+01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:55.000
+And so it's very possible that Charles Ricksy and Kevin McCann are just people trying very hard and are just for some reason or another really upset with me and don't really like me.
+
+01:43:55.000 --> 01:44:08.000
+And so then they don't behave very, very reasonable when it comes to me. And so then I'm also not reacting very reasonably to their critiques of me.
+
+01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:19.000
+The bottom line is is that I don't feel like they've addressed this, the biology that matters. And I think more importantly, they keep tripling down on the mythology.
+
+01:44:19.000 --> 01:44:27.000
+They keep tripling down on the mythology of a novel virus that killed a million people in America.
+
+01:44:28.000 --> 01:44:43.000
+They keep doubling down on the idea that it was a gain of function virus. I've heard, I've heard Charles Ricksy say that the fear and cleavage site is the reason why the virus was able to be so transmissible.
+
+01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:54.000
+And so the transmissibility of an RNA virus is dependent on four additional amino acids that add a fear and cleavage site to it.
+
+01:44:54.000 --> 01:45:08.000
+And somehow that makes an RNA coronavirus able to travel the world in a way that a coronavirus couldn't when it didn't have those four amino acids.
+
+01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:20.000
+And this is coming from someone who's not a biologist, but somebody who's read 4,000 papers in three years and so effectively has become a biologist.
+
+01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:37.000
+That's what we're to believe. And then the diffuse proposal just serendipitously is a grant proposal written by EcoHealth Alliance where they propose to insert fear and cleavage sites into bat viruses
+
+01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:51.000
+and then test them even though they know that a fear and cleavage site could result in wild expansion of the virus's capability to transmit from person to person.
+
+01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:58.000
+Even though they have no molecular basis for that because the spike protein isn't involved in proofreading or something.
+
+01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:05.000
+The spike protein isn't involved in high fidelity RNA copying of the full genome.
+
+01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:14.000
+It doesn't stop spontaneous recombination of genomic recopying during the infectious cycle.
+
+01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:22.000
+It's just four amino acids that allow the spike protein to be cleaved in another place than it was already cleavable.
+
+01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:28.000
+Allowing the S1 protein, I think, to furloughed free.
+
+01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:36.000
+And somehow that makes it more infectious from person to person to person to person to person.
+
+01:46:36.000 --> 01:46:39.000
+But where's the fear and cleavage site now?
+
+01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:45.000
+Where's the DC site now in the highly mutated Omicron variants?
+
+01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:49.000
+Why aren't we doing detailed analysis of that?
+
+01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:53.000
+Because it's not a genuine analysis of this.
+
+01:46:53.000 --> 01:47:00.000
+Because we're not trying to do a genuine analysis of this or they would be talking about all of these frauds every day.
+
+01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:07.000
+But instead we focus exclusively on the spike protein, exclusively on amyloidogenesis or prion disease.
+
+01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:09.000
+Where are the prions?
+
+01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:12.000
+Where is the crowds felt yachob disease?
+
+01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:15.000
+Where are all these people?
+
+01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:18.000
+Where is all these amyloids that are there?
+
+01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:25.000
+And how do we differentiate them from people who had amyloids in their head before the pandemic, but we never detected them?
+
+01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:31.000
+How do we differentiate from all the other causes of amyloidosis and this one?
+
+01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:38.000
+When there's so much asymptomatic spread, we never know how many people had the virus.
+
+01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:44.000
+And so it's all part of the same narrative that they're just spinning their wheels.
+
+01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:51.000
+They don't realize that, or I think they have to realize already, that the biology doesn't support this.
+
+01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:57.000
+The only way to explain what is on this graph right here is the protocols.
+
+01:47:57.000 --> 01:48:03.000
+The changing of the protocols drastically in New York City is what's responsible for this.
+
+01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:09.000
+The changing of the protocols around the United States and the scaring of doctors is what's responsible for this.
+
+01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:18.000
+And blaming normal people dying on the COVID virus because they tested positive for a PCR.
+
+01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:31.000
+And all of those confounding variables are ignored by Kevin McCarron and Charles Rixi every time they say that a million people in America died of COVID.
+
+01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:38.000
+All the increase in opioid deaths that have been rolled into COVID, they're all ignored.
+
+01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:48.000
+All of the heart attacks that were do not resuscitate orders enrolled into COVID are ignored.
+
+01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:50.000
+That's how that works.
+
+01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:56.000
+Because otherwise you have to admit that, well, not very many people died of the virus or the clone or whatever it was,
+
+01:48:56.000 --> 01:48:58.000
+even if it's found everywhere.
+
+01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:01.000
+It's not really responsible for killing everybody.
+
+01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:07.000
+It's the other dumb stuff that's responsible for killing everybody.
+
+01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:17.000
+And it's the shot, which is what I spent the last part of 2020 trying to warn everybody about and getting blocked by everyone.
+
+01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:28.000
+Because I was saying, transfection won't work like that.
+
+01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:33.000
+And so yeah, I think that a natural virus can't do this, but I think a clone could.
+
+01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:38.000
+And I think if they used a clone, then you can definitely call that a bioweapon.
+
+01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:42.000
+But part of that bioweapon was lying about spread.
+
+01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:48.000
+And that bioweapon wouldn't need to go or be spread very far and that bioweapon could have been something different.
+
+01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:55.000
+They could have used clones for the three people that they sequenced and they could have used something for everybody else for respiratory disease.
+
+01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:56.000
+I don't know.
+
+01:49:56.000 --> 01:49:57.000
+It's a crime.
+
+01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:04.000
+But I do know that a natural virus in a little vial can't cause a pandemic.
+
+01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:09.000
+And I think that since I started saying that, that's when everybody lost their minds.
+
+01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:12.000
+That's when Mary, the virus lady showed up in Panda.
+
+01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:16.000
+That's when Jennifer, the virus lady showed up in Panda.
+
+01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:25.000
+That's when all of these people really started to get smoking their eyes and really get annoyed.
+
+01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:32.000
+Was when I started saying that clones are the only way that this sequence could have been seeded all over the world.
+
+01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:39.000
+If you're going to have the same sequence everywhere, it's not a virus spreading, it is a clone being seeded.
+
+01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:42.000
+And that's why I keep playing Dr. Giordano.
+
+01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:48.000
+The only difference is, is that if you're a terrorist group, then you call up and you say,
+
+01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:50.000
+oh yeah, we're responsible.
+
+01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:55.000
+But if you're a state actor, then you don't call up the press and you say,
+
+01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:57.000
+yeah, this is the United States government.
+
+01:50:57.000 --> 01:50:59.000
+We're responsible for releasing the clone in Wuhan.
+
+01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:01.000
+You know what you do?
+
+01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:08.000
+You leak a document and you cover up emails that actually you don't cover up.
+
+01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:09.000
+You leak.
+
+01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:10.000
+And you know what else you do?
+
+01:51:10.000 --> 01:51:17.000
+You leak slack messages and you slow leak FOIA requests that all seem to indicate
+
+01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:22.000
+that the government was covering up their culpability to the virus.
+
+01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:27.000
+Oh my gosh, there's even a diffuse proposal that shows they were asking for money
+
+01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:34.000
+to make viruses with fear and cleavage sites.
+
+01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:39.000
+And so while the stunt that Giordano explains is a stunt of a non-state actor
+
+01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:44.000
+and how a non-state actor might just raise their hand and say, yeah, we did it.
+
+01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:50.000
+And then use the internet to provide the scare tactics that make the country fall apart.
+
+01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:56.000
+If a state actor was going to do this or a non-state actor wanted to blame it
+
+01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:03.000
+on the United States, then maybe that non-state actor would get a bunch of
+
+01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:10.000
+insiders in America and our outside of America to make it look like there was a cover up.
+
+01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:14.000
+And then maybe they would leak a few emails and maybe they would do some show in front
+
+01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:20.000
+of Congress where a senator or a representative would yell at a NIH guy and they would say
+
+01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:25.000
+that you're lying about getting a function a few times.
+
+01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:31.000
+And then they would release some emails and some slacks and then, oh, a grant proposal
+
+01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:41.000
+that says exactly fear and cleavage sites and bad caves and vaccines.
+
+01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:48.000
+And so if there was an intelligence operation designed to scare you
+
+01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:53.000
+into believing something happened that didn't happen, maybe that's what happened
+
+01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:57.000
+on 9-11 that the buildings fell and that there were airplanes, but how it happened
+
+01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:02.000
+does not really how it happened.
+
+01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:07.000
+Maybe that's what happened with the COVID thing.
+
+01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:11.000
+Maybe how they said it happened isn't what happened.
+
+01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:19.000
+And the people in 2020 who were sure that it was happening exactly as they said it was happening
+
+01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:26.000
+or sure that they were covering up exactly what they were covering up.
+
+01:53:26.000 --> 01:53:35.000
+Maybe they were wittingly or unwittingly involved in this narrative in this performance.
+
+01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:41.000
+It led to a lot of us including myself not knowing what the hell was going on in 2020
+
+01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:47.000
+and being real confused because there was this consensus over there that this has to be a lab leak
+
+01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:52.000
+and maybe we're all going to die and there's this consensus over there that says it's natural
+
+01:53:52.000 --> 01:54:05.000
+and it'll be fine and there's these people in New Zealand that say there's no virus at all.
+
+01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:06.000
+I think we were misled.
+
+01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:14.000
+I think we have been misled by many people about the potential for pandemics in coronavirus
+
+01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:20.000
+and I think they misled us into believing that something was released or you know spreading
+
+01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:25.000
+and that it was out of control and there was this natural phenomenon that was burning around the world
+
+01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:33.000
+and maybe it was a gain of function enhanced phenomenon.
+
+01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:40.000
+And I think that we're missing this big picture part that if there was a background signal
+
+01:54:40.000 --> 01:54:48.000
+that the PCR couldn't differentiate from, then you wouldn't need a big real signal in order for the pandemic
+
+01:54:48.000 --> 01:54:52.000
+to appear to be happening.
+
+01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:57.000
+And so if there was a clone released in a few places in the world and a few hundred people got sick
+
+01:54:57.000 --> 01:55:03.000
+and potentially all with the same RNA clone so that if they were sequenced
+
+01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:09.000
+that sequence would be consistent across patients and even across continents
+
+01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:15.000
+then with a conflated background signal of other coronaviruses, a conflated background signal
+
+01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:25.000
+of RNA dependent RNA polymerase and end protein, then with very few real cases seeded by a clone
+
+01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:34.000
+and real sequences and real PCR examples, you could pretend there was a pandemic coordinated
+
+01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:40.000
+with trained people in the government that had done crimson contagion and clayed eggs
+
+01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:51.000
+and Atlantic storm and event 201 would be ready to accept the idea that this test indicates the spread.
+
+01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:55.000
+These sequences indicate that they're spread.
+
+01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:57.000
+I say we pull the trigger.
+
+01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:00.000
+Let's inactivate the plan.
+
+01:56:00.000 --> 01:56:03.000
+Time to activate the plan.
+
+01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:11.000
+And then as the plan is activated, you just need a few people here in the air to make sure that nobody has any doubt.
+
+01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:16.000
+Make sure that you contact some podcasters, maybe get Allison Morrow to start podcasting
+
+01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:24.000
+and make sure that Brett Weinstein and Sam Harris are there to say that anti-vaxxers are intolerable.
+
+01:56:24.000 --> 01:56:32.000
+Make sure that Brett Weinstein goes along with the bushmeat idea and maybe he wears a mask.
+
+01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:37.000
+Make sure that you contact Brett Weinstein and tell him that this is serious and that we need his help
+
+01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:41.000
+to make sure that people take it seriously.
+
+01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:45.000
+Make sure you contact all those late night hosts.
+
+01:56:45.000 --> 01:56:53.000
+Maybe tell all the people on Hollywood sets that this is a really big deal and we've got a special shot for you.
+
+01:56:53.000 --> 01:56:56.000
+And so we're going to give it to you early.
+
+01:56:56.000 --> 01:57:00.000
+You just don't speak out about this.
+
+01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:09.000
+There was an orchestrated campaign in 2019 to prepare us for the transition into 2020
+
+01:57:09.000 --> 01:57:19.000
+that included getting podcasters and social media influencers in positions so that they could control the narrative,
+
+01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:29.000
+so that their reaction would be seen by more people and induce an illusion of consensus that would include a lab leak
+
+01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:32.000
+or a natural viral debate.
+
+01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:35.000
+When in reality it could have been an endemic background.
+
+01:57:35.000 --> 01:57:39.000
+It doesn't matter the protocols in transfection or not medicine.
+
+01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:41.000
+It could be an infectious clone release.
+
+01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:45.000
+It still doesn't matter because the protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine.
+
+01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:50.000
+It could have been a transfection release where they transfected people with the spike protein
+
+01:57:50.000 --> 01:57:56.000
+and the spike protein itself could cause a lot of these tertiary effects.
+
+01:57:56.000 --> 01:58:03.000
+And the transfection of a spike protein could result in amyloidosis and prion disease
+
+01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:08.000
+because of protein misfolding or because of the proper folding of a pre antigenic protein.
+
+01:58:08.000 --> 01:58:17.000
+All possible in the transfection release scenario and it has nothing to do with a spreading laboratory virus.
+
+01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:22.000
+And the protocols then are murder and transfection remains not medicine.
+
+01:58:22.000 --> 01:58:26.000
+It's a conflated background signal. It doesn't matter what it is.
+
+01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:32.000
+That's the best way to explain the molecular biology that we saw.
+
+01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:36.000
+It's the best way to explain the way the protocols played into this.
+
+01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:43.000
+And it's the best way to explain Jessica Hawkins and Jonathan Engels,
+
+01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:51.000
+Jonathan Engler's observations about Italy
+
+01:58:51.000 --> 01:58:55.000
+and Denny Rankor's observations about the shot roll out around the world.
+
+01:58:55.000 --> 01:59:00.000
+Protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine.
+
+01:59:00.000 --> 01:59:07.000
+And so we wholeheartedly agree that the no virus position has been a distraction for a very, very long time.
+
+01:59:07.000 --> 01:59:17.000
+But understanding how it's a distraction and why it's such a seductive one is not as easy as people have portrayed it to be.
+
+01:59:17.000 --> 01:59:23.000
+But you can dismiss them and say the protocols of murder and transfection is a medicine because that's really the truth.
+
+01:59:23.000 --> 01:59:31.000
+And that's the truth that we are saying and going to continue to say it's not obfuscating anything else.
+
+01:59:31.000 --> 01:59:37.000
+It's not overlooking anything else. It's saying that the details don't matter if you get here.
+
+01:59:37.000 --> 01:59:43.000
+Because then you realize that first and foremost they lied to us.
+
+01:59:43.000 --> 01:59:50.000
+And that's the point that Mr. Sparkle, Mike Eden makes repeatedly. They lied to us.
+
+01:59:50.000 --> 01:59:55.000
+And it's not about lying about the lab leak. It's lying about the protocols.
+
+01:59:55.000 --> 02:00:01.000
+It's lying about the source. It's lying about the danger. It's lying about the potential for pandemics.
+
+02:00:01.000 --> 02:00:10.000
+It's not the lie about the diffuse proposal. It's not a lie about lab leak. It's not a lie about who funded who.
+
+02:00:10.000 --> 02:00:14.000
+It's not a lie about who knew what when.
+
+02:00:14.000 --> 02:00:22.000
+This is a lie that goes back 10 or 15 years before the pandemic because it had to be laid out.
+
+02:00:22.000 --> 02:00:31.000
+They had to have Ralph Barrack's innocent work on the harmless coronavirus and trying to adapt it for biotechnology
+
+02:00:31.000 --> 02:00:35.000
+and then build on that to make him the scapegoat.
+
+02:00:35.000 --> 02:00:40.000
+Not much different than they probably did with Bruce Ivan's back in the day.
+
+02:00:40.000 --> 02:00:46.000
+Ralph Barrack is no more responsible for this pandemic than she is.
+
+02:00:46.000 --> 02:00:54.000
+Because in the end, even if they make the best virus, it can't go around the world by itself. RNA doesn't do that.
+
+02:00:54.000 --> 02:01:02.000
+It has to be made in sufficient quantities. That requires skill. It requires industrial level advancement.
+
+02:01:02.000 --> 02:01:07.000
+It requires industrial level production. And Enovio is doing it.
+
+02:01:07.000 --> 02:01:19.000
+And lots of pharmaceutical companies have been able to do recombinant technology and use fermentation to grow massive quantities of DNA for more than a decade now.
+
+02:01:19.000 --> 02:01:29.000
+And so the difference is, are we telling a story about a gain of function virus that's released from a point in spreading around the world as a natural phenomenon
+
+02:01:29.000 --> 02:01:40.000
+where RNA has the ability to jump from person to person causing illness and high fidelity moving as a sequence around the world in waves?
+
+02:01:40.000 --> 02:01:57.000
+Are we telling the truth, which is the only way to get a sequence of that fidelity in that many people around the world is to make an infectious clone and spread it?
+
+02:01:58.000 --> 02:02:03.000
+That's the only way.
+
+02:02:03.000 --> 02:02:19.000
+And they wouldn't have had to do very much because with a background signal of coronavirus, with a background signal of PCR positivity, you don't need to risk everything by releasing crazy bioweapons everywhere.
+
+02:02:19.000 --> 02:02:28.000
+In order to do this, you just need to do what Dr. Giordano said and you see it a few cases and the rest you do with the internet.
+
+02:02:28.000 --> 02:02:45.000
+The rest you do with the internet, the rest you do with the internet, the rest you do with the internet, the internet and the people on it,
+
+02:02:45.000 --> 02:03:04.000
+the algorithms in it were able to convince us that of a different way of thinking about respiratory disease that we could actually be completely naive to a new respiratory disease and have no defense to it, that we don't have to think about all cause mortality,
+
+02:03:04.000 --> 02:03:11.000
+that there are millions of Americans that still don't know the 3 million of us die every year.
+
+02:03:12.000 --> 02:03:21.000
+They changed the way we think about our immune response to disease by inverting it and making us think only about antibodies.
+
+02:03:21.000 --> 02:03:32.000
+Instead of T cells and the fact that antigen presenting cells are working their butt off to activate T cells before B cells can ever do anything if they're naive.
+
+02:03:32.000 --> 02:03:46.000
+And they changed the way we think about immunization, vaccination and immunity because they started from the very beginning telling us about how we had eliminated disease with vaccination throughout our history.
+
+02:03:46.000 --> 02:03:50.000
+And that vaccination is the greatest thing in modern medicine.
+
+02:03:50.000 --> 02:03:52.000
+And now we have all these caveats.
+
+02:03:52.000 --> 02:03:58.000
+Now we have Paul off at saying that no vaccine is perfect.
+
+02:03:59.000 --> 02:04:11.000
+Now when Bill Gates was on PBS news hour with his lighted table and his little foam models, then vaccines worked perfectly in the past and they're going to work even better now with our new and improved.
+
+02:04:12.000 --> 02:04:13.000
+M RNA.
+
+02:04:16.000 --> 02:04:20.000
+And so these changes allowed these very bad things to happen, right?
+
+02:04:20.000 --> 02:04:21.000
+They ventilated people.
+
+02:04:21.000 --> 02:04:23.000
+They used remdesivir, medazolam.
+
+02:04:23.000 --> 02:04:25.000
+They didn't treat secondary pneumonia the way they should.
+
+02:04:25.000 --> 02:04:26.000
+They shut down schools.
+
+02:04:26.000 --> 02:04:34.000
+They masked and hurt children and they socially distance family and friends and they destroyed small businesses.
+
+02:04:34.000 --> 02:04:39.000
+This has been devastating for the poor and middle class.
+
+02:04:39.000 --> 02:04:41.000
+Myself included.
+
+02:04:41.000 --> 02:04:43.000
+I don't own my own house.
+
+02:04:44.000 --> 02:04:54.000
+I had to move out of the house that I was in because I lost my job at Pitt and couldn't get a mortgage to buy a house that I was trying to buy.
+
+02:04:55.000 --> 02:05:00.000
+And now I'm renting for almost double rent on the south side of Pittsburgh.
+
+02:05:01.000 --> 02:05:04.000
+And so, yeah, it's great.
+
+02:05:04.000 --> 02:05:16.000
+The takeover of the American housing market has been great for my family and I'm 52 years old and I'll probably never own a house because that's the way America is going.
+
+02:05:17.000 --> 02:05:24.000
+And they did this on purpose and they were able to do it because they terrified the crap out of us in 2020.
+
+02:05:25.000 --> 02:05:35.000
+They terrified the crap out of us in 2020 by making us think it was so bad that we had to shut down schools and give kids iPads for free.
+
+02:05:36.000 --> 02:05:40.000
+What was before the pandemic screen time was terrible for your children.
+
+02:05:40.000 --> 02:05:48.000
+Now the pandemic is so bad the potential of pandemic is so bad the screen time is not bad anymore.
+
+02:05:49.000 --> 02:05:56.000
+My children are now doing a lot of their homework on a laptop because they don't need to write anymore.
+
+02:05:57.000 --> 02:06:00.000
+All part of the same thing. All part of the same show.
+
+02:06:01.000 --> 02:06:05.000
+This is not a small time thing. This is for all the marbles.
+
+02:06:06.000 --> 02:06:10.000
+That's why there are so many people that are willing to lie to your face.
+
+02:06:11.000 --> 02:06:21.000
+That's why so many people are willing to lie to your face because this is for all the marbles.
+
+02:06:22.000 --> 02:06:30.000
+And unless you've got skin in the game like a little kid or several of them, you aren't playing.
+
+02:06:31.000 --> 02:06:35.000
+And so it is so sad.
+
+02:06:36.000 --> 02:06:44.000
+It is so sad how many people don't realize that they're playing for the wrong team and we've got to try and wake people up.
+
+02:06:46.000 --> 02:06:54.000
+Because when you're playing this game about trying to figure out the mystery of who did it or what they did,
+
+02:06:55.000 --> 02:06:58.000
+then you're playing their game.
+
+02:06:59.000 --> 02:07:09.000
+Because what we need to do is realize that the vast majority of what happened was stupid people behavior driven by stupid protocols,
+
+02:07:09.000 --> 02:07:13.000
+by stupid leaders making stupid decisions.
+
+02:07:14.000 --> 02:07:18.000
+And when we call them stupid, we're actually letting them off the hook.
+
+02:07:19.000 --> 02:07:26.000
+Because of the rehearsals, because from dark winter to clade X to Atlantic storm to Crimson, whatever,
+
+02:07:26.000 --> 02:07:38.000
+Crimson contagion to event 201, this bureaucracy has been trained for this response, has been drilled for this response,
+
+02:07:39.000 --> 02:07:41.000
+and then this response was triggered.
+
+02:07:42.000 --> 02:07:47.000
+The only question is, is do you think they triggered it with a bunch of real bombs?
+
+02:07:48.000 --> 02:07:53.000
+Or do you think they triggered it with a bunch of fireworks that they told everybody was bombs?
+
+02:07:54.000 --> 02:08:02.000
+Because in one hand, everybody would be in danger and that would be a random crapshoot as to what would really happen.
+
+02:08:02.000 --> 02:08:06.000
+And on the other hand, you have complete control.
+
+02:08:07.000 --> 02:08:11.000
+And when the moment you decide you want to end it, you can just end it.
+
+02:08:12.000 --> 02:08:17.000
+The moment you want to add a little more pressure, you can just add a little more pressure.
+
+02:08:19.000 --> 02:08:21.000
+And that's why I'm sure that's what they're doing.
+
+02:08:22.000 --> 02:08:30.000
+And that's why I'm sure that there are some people who are responsible for seeding this narrative in the very beginning because it was too flawless.
+
+02:08:31.000 --> 02:08:38.000
+And the people that did come out and speak out like Robert Malone came out conveniently too late.
+
+02:08:39.000 --> 02:08:55.000
+If you came out in June of 21 and said, I'm not sure if we should be transfecting people, you were too late by like six months, if not more.
+
+02:08:56.000 --> 02:09:06.000
+Because by then, your voice was not going to get to those college kids who were making the decision right then whether they needed to vaccinate or not because what?
+
+02:09:07.000 --> 02:09:19.000
+Because people like Richard Ebright were saying that if we open schools in the universities in the fall of 20, we're going to kill 200,000 kids.
+
+02:09:20.000 --> 02:09:26.000
+If we open universities in 2020, we are going to kill 200,000 people. That's what he said.
+
+02:09:27.000 --> 02:09:29.000
+And so we didn't open universities.
+
+02:09:31.000 --> 02:09:35.000
+And when we did, we opened them with crazy protocols and testing and masking.
+
+02:09:38.000 --> 02:09:44.000
+And we brainwashed those college kids for a year to think that this was okay.
+
+02:09:45.000 --> 02:09:49.000
+And we tested them for a year, swabbing them weekly.
+
+02:09:50.000 --> 02:10:10.000
+Why? Because people like Kevin McCairn and George Webb and Paul Catrell and many, many, many others, wittingly or unwittingly, ran with their hair on fire for four months saying that this is certainly going to be a worst case scenario.
+
+02:10:11.000 --> 02:10:24.000
+And people like Knut with Cowsky and Rob, sorry, Michael Eden and Knut with Cowsky and Wolfgang Wodach were centered and wiped from the Internet.
+
+02:10:25.000 --> 02:10:27.000
+That's literally what happened.
+
+02:10:28.000 --> 02:10:36.000
+Mike Eden, Wolfgang Wodach and Knut with Cowsky were censored on the Internet when they said we should open schools in the fall.
+
+02:10:37.000 --> 02:10:44.000
+We should never close schools. Those people were censored and Brett Weinstein wasn't.
+
+02:10:46.000 --> 02:10:50.000
+And Sam Harris wasn't and Jordan Peterson wasn't.
+
+02:10:56.000 --> 02:10:59.000
+I was my YouTube channel with getting strikes all the time.
+
+02:11:00.000 --> 02:11:02.000
+And then this shot came out.
+
+02:11:16.000 --> 02:11:28.000
+The reason why they're doing this is because when the population eventually plateaus and goes down, they would already like to have converted our society to a biosurveillance society.
+
+02:11:29.000 --> 02:11:41.000
+So that they could have your genetic data and all of your personal medical data, personal behavioral data, maybe even your brainwaves for all I know for your entire life.
+
+02:11:42.000 --> 02:11:45.000
+The more data they can get from you, the better.
+
+02:11:46.000 --> 02:11:54.000
+And right now, they understand that people of our generation are not going to give that data up and we're not going to let you take it from our kids either.
+
+02:11:55.000 --> 02:12:00.000
+And so they need to change that over the course of 10 years.
+
+02:12:01.000 --> 02:12:09.000
+And so they started with the college kids and they're going to keep doing it with the college kids, college kids, college kids until those college kids start having children.
+
+02:12:10.000 --> 02:12:20.000
+When they start having children, those college kids will be ready to say, hey, maybe we should donate our baby's medical data to all of us.
+
+02:12:20.000 --> 02:12:25.000
+The program at the NIH that's collecting this data is going to make it better for everybody.
+
+02:12:26.000 --> 02:12:34.000
+Now, don't worry, the NIH is not going to pay everybody for their medical data like you think they would, but they are going to probably sell it.
+
+02:12:35.000 --> 02:12:41.000
+They'll probably sell it to every company that wants to buy it and they'll sell a subscription service to it.
+
+02:12:42.000 --> 02:12:47.000
+And then they'll turn around and use that money to pay those companies to do research, something like that.
+
+02:12:48.000 --> 02:12:53.000
+But that money will never come back to us, the owners of that data, at least that's not the intention.
+
+02:12:57.000 --> 02:13:02.000
+And so, yeah, we're here. People are still not playing very nice.
+
+02:13:03.000 --> 02:13:07.000
+If you want to talk off Twitter, you can talk at gigglehome.bio.
+
+02:13:08.000 --> 02:13:10.000
+You can also follow me at giggleandbiological.com.
+
+02:13:11.000 --> 02:13:16.000
+And yeah, I'm really stoked and I'm not stoked.
+
+02:13:17.000 --> 02:13:22.000
+I'm stoked because we're doing really well and we're making a lot of progress on a lot of fun.
+
+02:13:23.000 --> 02:13:32.000
+I'm not stoked because I let some people in the chat get to me today, but you know, it's the way it is.
+
+02:13:33.000 --> 02:13:35.000
+I got to grow and I got to keep growing.
+
+02:13:35.000 --> 02:13:47.000
+And one of the things I've got to grow out of is this weakness where I have to answer these people who at this point really haven't earned a respectful answer.
+
+02:13:48.000 --> 02:13:50.000
+So I apologize for letting myself get distracted.
+
+02:13:51.000 --> 02:13:52.000
+I'll try not try to do better tomorrow.
+
+02:13:53.000 --> 02:13:56.000
+I will be on tomorrow because I stream every day now.
+
+02:13:57.000 --> 02:13:58.000
+Thanks very much for joining me.
+
+02:13:59.000 --> 02:14:03.000
+This has been Giggle and Biological High Resistance Low Noise Information Stream brought to you by a biologist.
+
+02:14:03.000 --> 02:14:05.000
+My name is Jonathan Cooley.
+
+02:14:06.000 --> 02:14:07.000
+Thanks, man.
+
+02:14:09.000 --> 02:14:10.000
+Transfection is not immunization.
+
+02:14:11.000 --> 02:14:15.000
+An intramuscular injection is not a means of immunization.
+
+02:14:16.000 --> 02:14:20.000
+You can't augment an immune system by injecting stuff in your muscle.
+
+02:14:21.000 --> 02:14:22.000
+It doesn't work like that.
+
+02:14:23.000 --> 02:14:24.000
+And that's the big picture.
+
+02:14:26.000 --> 02:14:30.000
+Stop all transfections in humans because they are trying to eliminate the control group.
+
+02:14:31.000 --> 02:14:37.000
+I've been saying this every night, every stream for about two years now.
+
+02:14:38.000 --> 02:14:43.000
+So my track record speaks for itself and so does Kevin McCairns.
+
+02:14:44.000 --> 02:14:45.000
+And that's where we'll leave it.
+
+02:14:46.000 --> 02:14:47.000
+Thanks, guys.
+
+02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:01.000
+Thanks.
+
+02:15:17.000 --> 02:15:23.000
+124 people, you know, sometimes it's good to have clowns, you know.
+
+02:15:25.000 --> 02:15:26.000
+It's a better circus.
+
+02:15:27.000 --> 02:15:28.000
+Something like that.
+
+02:15:28.000 --> 02:15:29.000
+I don't know.
+
+02:15:46.000 --> 02:15:48.000
+Thanks, guys. See you tomorrow.
+
+02:15:58.000 --> 02:15:59.000
+Thank you.
+
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+And all the time it was Wiggles who made that black knight come to life.
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+And there was no legend.
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+Positively not.
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+Wiggles just used the story to cover up my mysterious disappearance.
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+Somehow he managed to get into the armour down at the train station.
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+And like on the way to the museum he made you disappear.
+
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+Oh Cheers!
+
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+Scoobyoooo
+
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+Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, this is GIGO and Biological High Resistance Low
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+Noise Information Brief brought to you by a biologist.
+
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+It's the 17th of September, 2023.
+
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+I have been with you fighting this limited debate spectrum that we've been trapped in,
+
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+this Scooby-Doo mystery we've been tricked into solving.
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+Today I wanted to take the chance to introduce you indirectly to someone who has been
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+a friend behind the scenes, someone who's been helping me think about this a lot over the last
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+couple years. And so it's about time that I guess just introduced this friend to you.
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+At least that was my plan today and so as I switch over, welcome to the show.
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+This is GIGO and Biological. My name is Jonathan Cooey. I'm the biologist bringing you this
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+high resistance low noise information brief. On September 23rd, I have invited a friend
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+to join us who I'm just calling a regular guy and I'm going to let him introduce himself
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+to you. But the gist of this is that you can't possibly believe that it's just me and a pile
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+02:40.540 --> 02:47.420
+of books and that's the fight. There are lots of people behind the scenes that I'm talking to
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+02:47.420 --> 02:56.300
+every day and exchanging thoughts with and bouncing my ideas off of. This is not some kind of
+
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+broadcast from the back of a garage with drawings on the back of napkins and stuff like that.
+
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+I have a network of people that has through the last couple years kind of kept me in check
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+and made sure that I'm not going completely off the deep end either with my ego or with
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+any of the elaborate possibilities of the future that have been put in front of us.
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+So let me see if what else did I have to put in here yet. I guess I just want to say
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+we're trying very hard not to take the bait on social media, not to take the bait on television.
+
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+Yesterday I covered another bunch of video and discussion about what's going on and trying to
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+figure out what's going on with regard to this whole clone and swarm and infectious cycle thing.
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+And I continue to add to this picture of who has changed our minds about things and who has kept
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+us in these paths of narrative that have not allowed us to escape, not allowed us to realize
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+that by changing our minds about these things these huge changes in our societal behavior
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+resulted in hundreds of thousands of people being hurt or killed and that's the biology that we're
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+04:23.820 --> 04:31.260
+trying to you know roll backwards a little bit. And so it is this controlled debate that we
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+find ourselves in and it's this idea that there are people out there who are really trying to
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+to break us free. And I think that's also part of this illusion that we don't need to solve the
+
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+mystery because people like Robert Malone are on it and they are pushing the right buttons,
+
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+they are calling the right people to account and so we can relax and just watch the Scooby-Doo
+
+04:56.380 --> 05:02.620
+episode unfold in front of us as the people who are responsible for the lab leak pandemic
+
+05:02.620 --> 05:10.460
+are brought to justice. So one of the things hey look at that there's an extra guy here
+
+05:10.460 --> 05:15.420
+not only do I see regular guy but I see a guy by the name of Mark Koolak who's actually also a
+
+05:15.420 --> 05:23.740
+regular guy well this is this is just really special. So let me switch over. Do you guys want
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+to do an audio check for me? Check one two? Sure this is regular guy check one. Hey regular
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+guys checking in. How are you there Mr. Koolak? Checking in checking in one two three four. How
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+are you guys? I'm really good regular guy please meet my friend Mark Koolak for the first time live
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+05:45.900 --> 05:51.580
+on TV. Thank you very much for joining me. Do you want to just take it away and give a little
+
+05:51.580 --> 05:58.700
+introduction as to how we met and what you're doing here so Mark also knows? Sure so this goes
+
+05:58.700 --> 06:07.420
+back a few years as JC said and to give you some background I'm in addition to being a regular
+
+06:07.420 --> 06:18.300
+guy I'm a parent and around the summer 2021 I started to become concerned about some of the
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+information that was being put forth to the FDA. There's a website called regulations.gov that
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+anyone can go to and sign up create an account and you're supposed to be able to put comments
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+on regulations.gov where you comment on pending policy changes rule rule changes that that
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+different agencies are making. And I went to look and see what kind of information
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+what kind of comments had been submitted with respect to COVID vaccines because I was skeptical
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+at that point. I found one comment I found one submission by CHD that I thought was I thought
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+I could do better. And so I went and dug around for information that I could use being a regular
+
+07:13.500 --> 07:20.700
+guy you know not being a specialist in this area and I found some material that looked good
+
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+including some material by an individual named Jonathan Cooey. I didn't know anything about
+
+07:27.900 --> 07:35.580
+this person but I liked what I was reading and so what I wanted to do was submit some information
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+to the FDA saying hey I'm a concerned citizen I have these concerns here are my concerns.
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+You know please consider this before you go ahead and make the determination whether it
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+prove this vaccine for children. And that is so of course in order to do that you know
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+ethically and fairly I decided it was appropriate to reach out to the author of this paper and so
+
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+I did that and I struck up a conversation with Mr. Cooey and when I told him what I wanted to do
+
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+he was intrigued and that touched off a long conversation.
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+So I'm going to jump right into things as I said I'm a regular guy now I did go to some schools
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+and I do have a few degrees here and there but and I do have a job I'm not you know out here
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+08:31.420 --> 08:38.780
+I'm not homeless. So anyway I'm going to jump right into things and kind of just take us
+
+08:38.780 --> 08:43.020
+right off the diving board here because I don't know a better way to introduce what I don't
+
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+know what it is I want to talk about today. So just a moment here let me get this going.
+
+08:51.020 --> 09:00.780
+All right so what you see here is an excerpt from a Duke Law Journal article that was published
+
+09:00.860 --> 09:09.420
+in 1989. It's kind of an odd article because it isn't really an article it's just a transcript
+
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+of someone's closing remarks at a conference. In fact it's not his closing remarks it's his
+
+09:15.820 --> 09:23.980
+rebuttal to all the attacks that he'd taken from his initial speech which was not published in
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+09:24.540 --> 09:30.060
+Duke Law Journal. Duke Law Journal decided only to publish his rebuttal. So this is 1989.
+
+09:30.860 --> 09:35.900
+Now the person who's speaking here was a lawyer who worked for the Reagan administration
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+and he is a leading expert in an area of law called administrative law. So again this is 1989.
+
+09:44.940 --> 09:49.660
+Now I've highlighted what I think are the relevant sections here. This is the most important things
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+09:49.660 --> 09:54.060
+not whether the remand comes up the same way next time. Now a remand is a technical word
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+09:54.060 --> 10:01.500
+or remand is one of I'll and then a decision is made and then it gets appealed. The appellate
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+10:01.500 --> 10:06.060
+court can overturn the decision but it can also kick the case back to the lower court and it can
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+say you go decide it. Again you know we're going to change the rules you know we're going to tweak
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+this and that maybe don't allow that information and allow this other information in and just do
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+a new trial. That's called a remand and in this case he's not talking about trials that happen
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+at court. He's talking about hearings that happen before these administrative agencies like OSHA and
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+EPA okay. So he's saying that you know sometimes a court decision will come along and I'll slap
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+one of these agencies some random agency and the other agencies he's saying are going to take
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+note of this. Now most people think that everybody lives in fear of going to court and he's saying
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+that's not what's important. It's not whether whether it goes to court and what instruction
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+you get from the court. It's the ripple effect on what the agency does every day afterwards.
+
+10:59.340 --> 11:03.580
+Now the next sentence again he's an oral remark says the decision will be political. The decision
+
+11:03.580 --> 11:08.540
+he's referring to is not a legal decision. The decision he's referring here to here is a decision
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+by the agency OSHA EPA. Most of these cases will never go to court but their political character
+
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+will be affected very dramatically by the existence of the previous case. A lot of federal regulatory
+
+11:24.540 --> 11:30.300
+policy is affected by this case and it has nothing to do with ex post litigation at all. Now they
+
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+emphasize at all which means he must have emphasized it when he was speaking. Ex post is a lad in
+
+11:35.660 --> 11:40.860
+terms that just means after the fact. So he's saying a lot of federal regulatory policy
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+is based on these ripple effects that follow from one big decision and what it is is it's a
+
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+bunch of people that work at these agencies who suddenly face uncertainty and they have to make
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+decisions in the face of that uncertainty and it's not that they're worried about going to court.
+
+11:59.420 --> 12:04.380
+Everybody thinks that this is all about suing, taking people to court but sometimes it's about
+
+12:04.460 --> 12:11.180
+little pinpricks that have ripple effects. That's what this person was saying in 1989.
+
+12:11.980 --> 12:21.740
+Now in 1989 this person was not famous. Within a decade this person was fairly famous
+
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+and within 20 years I got to know this person fairly well and I learned a lot of things from
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+the person who gave this speech but I'm not going to talk about that. I'm going to skip to
+
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+something else. Give me a moment here. Okay. A lot of people are aware, actually not a lot of
+
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+people are aware. A lot of people are unaware that there were a series of cases
+
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+that were decided by the Supreme Court 2022. You may recall that around October 2021
+
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+President Biden gave an announcement. He said we're going to have a big vaccine mandate.
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+Every employer, more than 100 employees are going to have to test all their employees.
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+And there are going to be penalties if you don't comply, bigger penalties if it's willful
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+non-compliance. Okay. Now this was all premised on an emergency declaration that was made by the
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+Secretary of Health and Human Services. In other words the President said Secretary of Health and
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+Human Services took stock of the situation and said oh my god there's a pandemic and oh my god
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+we need to do something about it. And oh my god we've got these fantastic vaccines right here.
+
+13:54.860 --> 14:00.460
+So you know emergency emergency emergency. And so then the President writes a
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+deckler and an executive order. And now an executive order is something to support and
+
+14:05.580 --> 14:10.460
+understand by executive orders. They can't give orders to you and me. They give orders only to
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+executive branch agencies. Okay. Otherwise it would be unconstitutional if an executive
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+order told you that you had to go out and mow your lawn that doesn't work. But you can give an
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+order to OSHA. And that's what the President did. He gave it to OSHA, this Occupational Safety and
+
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+Health Agency. Now this case was issued in January 2022. So you can count the days. It probably wasn't
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+90 days from the date that executive order was issued until the date this opinion was issued.
+
+14:42.300 --> 14:48.220
+That's pretty fast. Another interesting thing about this case is that it's fairly short.
+
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+I've got a couple of documents combined here but there's a couple opinions but the combined page
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+14:52.220 --> 14:59.900
+total is 30. The average Supreme Court opinion is probably over 50 upwards of 70 pages. Okay.
+
+14:59.900 --> 15:06.060
+So this is short. Now there's some other odd things here. And I've highlighted things that
+
+15:06.060 --> 15:10.460
+I think are noteworthy. It's issued per curium. That's a Latin term. I forget what it means.
+
+15:10.460 --> 15:15.660
+But it basically means that you don't know who wrote it. It's anonymous, which is abnormal. Usually
+
+15:15.660 --> 15:19.740
+when the Supreme Court issues an opinion, it's, you know, Alito telling you that, you know,
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+rose overturned. Here they don't tell you who wrote it. And they don't tell you who voted for it.
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+Can I ask you a question here, a regular guy? Yeah, sure. Go ahead.
+
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+Whose decision is that to make? Is it their decision or one justices decision to make that decision?
+
+15:36.460 --> 15:46.860
+Well, that's, that depends. So there's a chief justice and a lot of people get confused about
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+15:46.860 --> 15:52.380
+what he does. They think he gives you other justices orders. No. What he does is he assigns
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+15:52.380 --> 15:58.460
+the majority opinion when he's in the majority. Okay. So if he voted with the minority here,
+
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+he would have no control over what the majority opinion says because he didn't vote with the majority.
+
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+But if he votes with the majority, then he gets to decide who writes the opinion.
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+And he gets to decide things like whether it's going to be issued per curium.
+
+16:16.780 --> 16:21.500
+Now you can reverse engineer this decision by looking at the dissents. And if you count up the
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+16:21.500 --> 16:26.140
+dissents in this one, I don't know if I included the dissents here. Yeah, you can see the dissents
+
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+here, Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan. Okay. So that tells you who was in the majority and the majority
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+tells you that Roberts is in the majority. So Roberts would have had discretion to issue
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+it per curium. He could have written the opinion himself. We don't know. There were, there are
+
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+five other justices who could have written it. He didn't want you to know. Okay. All right. Now,
+
+16:51.740 --> 16:57.980
+a couple of things he points out here. I'm going to say he. I don't know. Maybe it was a
+
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+she, maybe it was Barrett who wrote it, but I'm assuming it's a guy. Don't ask me why.
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+OSHA has never before imposed such a mandate, nor is Congress. Indeed, although Congress is
+
+17:08.780 --> 17:15.820
+enacted significant legislation addressing COVID-19 pandemic, it has declined any measure to pass
+
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+any measure similar to what OSHA has promulgated here. Now, this is pretty plain reasoning.
+
+17:21.100 --> 17:26.780
+We've never seen anything like this. This is pretty crazy. Congress has taken a run at this
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+17:26.780 --> 17:32.220
+kind of stuff. They've never done anything like what this little agency OSHA is doing.
+
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+Now, then they, they, I'll skip ahead. As its name suggests, OSHA has tasked with ensuring
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+17:39.180 --> 17:45.340
+occupational safety. There's the O, right? It seems like a big no-da. Then they talk about
+
+17:45.340 --> 17:50.380
+the standards that OSHA can prescribe. The standards must be reasonably necessary or appropriate
+
+17:51.100 --> 17:57.020
+to provide safe or healthful employment. Okay. They emphasize employment there, sorry.
+
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+So the act contains an exception for ordinary notice and comment procedures for emergency
+
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+temporary standards. That's why I was not allowed to comment on these vaccine
+
+18:07.980 --> 18:12.460
+regulations that I originally wanted to comment on. My original reason for reaching out to
+
+18:12.460 --> 18:16.780
+JC was to see if I could steal some language to comment on a regulation
+
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+only to find out that I wasn't able to. And it was because of this emergency declaration that
+
+18:22.460 --> 18:27.580
+allows an agency to pass, pass regulations without the opportunity for public input.
+
+18:29.580 --> 18:32.940
+All right. So there's a couple things the secretary has to do before he can
+
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+do this. He has to show that employees are exposed to grave danger from substances or
+
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+agents determined to be toxic or new hazards and that the emergency standard is necessary to
+
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+protect employees from such danger. All right. Now there's a couple things that I think are
+
+18:52.380 --> 19:00.140
+worth noting in here. The first sentence of this paragraph, after a two month delay, the secretary
+
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+of labor issued the promised emergency standard. Why would they take the time to point out that
+
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+there was a two month delay? Well, because it tends to suggest that it wasn't really an emergency.
+
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+Okay. Couple things they know, it draws no distinctions based on industry or risk of exposure
+
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+to COVID-19. Unvaccinated employees who do not comply with the rule must be removed from the
+
+19:26.780 --> 19:33.740
+workplace. And employers who commit violations face hefty fines up to 13,000, 136,000 for a
+
+19:33.740 --> 19:37.660
+willful fine. So if you say, hell no, I'm not doing it. And I know I'm not doing it
+
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+up to $136,000. And I don't know if that's per day or per employee or what, but that's pretty serious.
+
+19:47.500 --> 19:56.300
+All right. Now the court here, as you might imagine, says this mandate's no good. He says these people
+
+19:56.300 --> 20:02.540
+are likely to succeed on the he's talking about, you know, the likelihood that he's
+
+20:02.940 --> 20:07.900
+ruling on an injunction here, but that the fact is this opinion has the effect of killing the
+
+20:08.620 --> 20:14.220
+executive order. So the administrative agencies are creatures of statute. They accordingly possess
+
+20:14.220 --> 20:19.660
+only authority that Congress has provided. Okay. Congress created OSHA through law. There's an
+
+20:19.660 --> 20:25.660
+occupational safety and health act. And it tells OSHA what it can do. The executive branch has
+
+20:25.660 --> 20:31.100
+some authority, but it's constrained by law. We expect Congress to speak clearly when authorizing
+
+20:31.100 --> 20:35.740
+an agency to exercise powers of vast economic and political significance.
+
+20:36.940 --> 20:41.820
+The question is whether the act plainly authorizes the secretary's mandate. And it does not,
+
+20:41.820 --> 20:47.660
+the act empowers the secretary to set workplace safety standards, not broad public health measures.
+
+20:49.500 --> 20:53.900
+And then they point out that although COVID-19 is a risk that occurs in many workplaces,
+
+20:53.900 --> 20:59.740
+it's not an occupational hazard in most cases. It spreads at home schools during sporting events
+
+20:59.740 --> 21:04.940
+and everywhere. That kind of universal risk is no different from the day to day dangers we all face.
+
+21:05.740 --> 21:11.740
+Okay. It says that allowing OSHA to regulate all these hazards would significantly expand
+
+21:11.740 --> 21:20.540
+its regulatory authority without clear congressional authorization. Now, I think this portion that
+
+21:20.540 --> 21:26.700
+I've highlighted in red gives away some of the emotions that were going on behind the scenes here
+
+21:26.700 --> 21:30.940
+because they carve out an exception. They say that's not to say OSHA lacks authority to regulate
+
+21:30.940 --> 21:36.220
+occupation specific related, occupation specific related risks related to COVID-19.
+
+21:37.660 --> 21:42.540
+Where the virus poses a special danger because of particular features of an employee's job or
+
+21:42.540 --> 21:48.860
+workplace targeted regulations are permissible. For example, OSHA could regulate researchers
+
+21:48.860 --> 21:56.380
+who work with the COVID-19 virus. Okay. So they're saying go ahead, vaccinate Fauci.
+
+21:57.660 --> 22:04.300
+All right. It's so ordered. There we go. All right. Now that's what? Nine pages. All right.
+
+22:05.820 --> 22:11.260
+Go out and find another nine page Supreme Court opinion. Well, actually I'll help you out because
+
+22:11.260 --> 22:14.460
+there's one more that I'm going to show you right now. And it was issued the same day.
+
+22:15.260 --> 22:29.340
+This one is also about a vaccine mandate. Well, it's about, yeah. Vaccine mandate by Joe Biden.
+
+22:29.340 --> 22:36.780
+You can see January 13, 2022. Now this is a little different. You can see who's being sued here is
+
+22:37.580 --> 22:45.820
+the Health Human Services Secretary. And this vaccine mandate applies to health care professionals.
+
+22:47.420 --> 22:52.620
+Now this one isn't a direct command. Okay. OSHA was giving an order and just saying
+
+22:52.620 --> 22:57.100
+everybody get vaccinated or you got to pay a big fine. This one is a little different.
+
+22:58.060 --> 23:03.580
+In this one, the secretary announced that in order to receive Medicare and Medicaid funding,
+
+23:04.380 --> 23:11.500
+participating fund, the facilities must ensure that their staff are vaccinated against COVID-19.
+
+23:11.500 --> 23:18.860
+Okay. So it's not required that you vaccinate your staff. It's only required if you want to get
+
+23:19.420 --> 23:25.340
+some of that money. Okay. That Medicare and Medicaid. All right. If you don't want Medicare and
+
+23:25.340 --> 23:31.100
+Medicaid, do your own thing. Now, in the court, this is this is procuring him again. Okay,
+
+23:31.100 --> 23:37.020
+okay. Where are you? Congress authorized the secretary to promulgate as a condition of a
+
+23:37.020 --> 23:41.740
+facility's participation in Medicare such requirements as he finds necessary in the
+
+23:41.740 --> 23:46.300
+interest of the health and safety of individuals for furnished services in the institution.
+
+23:47.100 --> 23:52.300
+That's pretty broad discretion for a secretary. Any requirements he finds necessary.
+
+23:53.100 --> 23:57.980
+The secretary has established long lists of detailed conditions with which facilities must
+
+23:58.060 --> 24:03.580
+comply. Certain providers maintain and enforce an infection prevention and control program
+
+24:03.580 --> 24:07.980
+designed to help prevent the development and transmission of communicable diseases and infections.
+
+24:09.580 --> 24:15.180
+On November 5th, the secretary issued a final rule or interim final rule saying that,
+
+24:18.380 --> 24:25.260
+facilities have to vaccinate all their staff and a facility's failure to comply on terrible
+
+24:25.260 --> 24:31.340
+lists. May lead to monetary penalties, denial payment for new admissions and ultimately
+
+24:31.340 --> 24:39.580
+termination of participation in Medicare and Medicaid. Okay. Again, the secretary didn't use
+
+24:39.580 --> 24:45.980
+the typical notice and comment procedures. The good cause was that any further delay would endanger
+
+24:45.980 --> 24:52.220
+patient health and safety given the spread of the delta variant in the upcoming winter season.
+
+24:52.220 --> 24:58.060
+So apparently that was the basis for skipping this notice and comment which again is normal
+
+24:59.260 --> 25:04.460
+normal part of the procedure but was skipped here. All right. Now here they say first we agree
+
+25:04.460 --> 25:07.740
+with the government that the secretary's rule falls within the authorities. The Congress
+
+25:07.740 --> 25:11.420
+has conferred upon them. That's the exact opposite of what we read in the last opinion.
+
+25:12.620 --> 25:17.980
+Congress has authorized the secretary to impose conditions that the secretary finds necessary
+
+25:17.980 --> 25:22.860
+then they say COVID-19 is highly contagious, dangerous, especially for Medicare and Medicare
+
+25:22.860 --> 25:27.100
+patients, deadly disease. Notice we didn't see any of this other language in the other opinion.
+
+25:27.100 --> 25:32.460
+There was nothing in there about COVID being dangerous. They just said that the risk is the same
+
+25:33.180 --> 25:39.660
+in the workplace, right, versus the home or the bus. They didn't have any of this language in here.
+
+25:40.460 --> 25:44.860
+Secretaries determined that the COVID vaccine mandate will substantially reduce the likelihood
+
+25:44.860 --> 25:49.100
+that health care workers, so this looks like a bunch of BS that they didn't bother to recite
+
+25:49.100 --> 25:55.420
+in the other opinion, but they're reciting it here. Ensuring that providers take steps to avoid
+
+25:55.420 --> 25:59.660
+transmitting a dangerous virus to their patients is consistent with fundamental principal medical
+
+25:59.660 --> 26:07.740
+profession. First do no harm. Are you like that? All right. As noted above, these health care
+
+26:07.740 --> 26:12.380
+facilities want that Medicare money. They've always been obligated to satisfy a host of
+
+26:12.380 --> 26:16.140
+conditions that address the safe and effective provision of health care. So this is an old
+
+26:16.940 --> 26:23.260
+old rule. Moreover, the secretary routinely imposes conditions on participation that relate to
+
+26:23.260 --> 26:29.020
+qualifications and duties of health care workers, and the secretary's always justified these requirements
+
+26:29.020 --> 26:32.940
+by citing his authorities to protect patient health and safety. So that's always been the
+
+26:32.940 --> 26:40.060
+justification. When asked at oral argument whether the secretary could use the same statutory authority
+
+26:40.060 --> 26:45.660
+to require hospital employees to wear gloves, sterilize instruments, wash their hands in a
+
+26:45.660 --> 26:50.540
+certain way at certain intervals, Missouri answered yes. The secretary certainly has the authority
+
+26:50.540 --> 26:55.420
+and implement all kinds of infection control measures. Then they go on to say, of course,
+
+26:55.420 --> 26:59.100
+the vaccine mandate goes further than what the secretary has done in the past.
+
+26:59.820 --> 27:04.300
+Bodies never had to address an infection problem of this scale and scope before.
+
+27:04.300 --> 27:11.660
+In any case, there can be no doubt that addressing infection problems is what he does.
+
+27:12.300 --> 27:16.860
+Okay. Health care workers around the country are ordinarily required to be vaccinated for
+
+27:16.860 --> 27:22.860
+diseases such as hepatitis B and fluenza measles you can count them up. All this perhaps is why
+
+27:22.860 --> 27:28.540
+health care workers and public health organizations overwhelmingly support the secretary's rule.
+
+27:28.540 --> 27:33.100
+Now look at what they cite. The American Medical Association submitted an amicus
+
+27:33.100 --> 27:37.740
+purity brief, a friend of the court brief and sort of the American Public Health Association.
+
+27:38.620 --> 27:49.180
+Okay. And as they as they point out here, health care workers and public health organizations,
+
+27:49.900 --> 27:54.700
+these are the same class of people that are supposed to be complaining about this law.
+
+27:55.580 --> 28:01.980
+Okay. These people are these, you know, Louisiana and Missouri is saying these health care workers
+
+28:02.780 --> 28:07.660
+object and the court is saying, well, wait a minute, when we look at what the American Medical
+
+28:07.660 --> 28:11.900
+Association says and the American Public Health Association, boy, they sure seem to think that
+
+28:11.900 --> 28:19.660
+this is this vaccine mandate is necessary. So you can guess where this is going.
+
+28:21.180 --> 28:27.740
+That vaccine mandate got upheld. Okay. Now, if you look at the dissent, look at who dissented,
+
+28:28.300 --> 28:35.580
+Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch Barrett. Okay. So there's your four conservatives. So that tells you who is
+
+28:35.580 --> 28:42.540
+in the in the majority was all the liberals, plus John Roberts. So it looks kind of like maybe
+
+28:42.540 --> 28:47.980
+John Roberts assigned the opinion to himself and made it per curium. I don't know. But anyway,
+
+28:48.540 --> 28:53.180
+that's one way of looking at where things are. Now, the reason that I go into this,
+
+28:53.180 --> 28:57.100
+the reason that I'm taking you through all this is not because I'm trying to get people
+
+28:57.100 --> 29:06.940
+spun up on, you know, ancient history here. It's because there's a perception, I think, that
+
+29:07.740 --> 29:16.140
+the law is stacked in such a way that nobody can make heads or tails of any, nobody can make any
+
+29:16.140 --> 29:21.580
+progress. Okay. You'll hear lots of muttering in the news about various people claiming that
+
+29:21.580 --> 29:25.260
+they've got, you know, litigation pending that's going to do this and it's going to prove this and
+
+29:25.500 --> 29:28.700
+this and that. And, you know, it's been two, three years now. None of that's gone anywhere.
+
+29:29.500 --> 29:34.700
+Here are two lawsuits that went to Supreme Court in three months and got a vaccine mandate overturned.
+
+29:35.260 --> 29:43.180
+Okay. So there's something a little odd going on here. I'm going to call it the Avenatti effect.
+
+29:43.180 --> 29:47.100
+You remember this guy, Michael Avenatti, he was on the news a few years ago. Everybody took him
+
+29:47.100 --> 29:53.740
+seriously. Everybody thought this guy was legit. Some people spotted him within three minutes and
+
+29:53.740 --> 29:58.540
+realized he was a phony and realized where it was all headed, but but he had a really shiny
+
+29:58.540 --> 30:05.500
+bald head. So it was hard to discount him. He did and Bill Maher loved him. MSNBC loved him.
+
+30:06.140 --> 30:10.540
+Everybody loved him. Yeah, they were thinking he was going to run for president. That's right.
+
+30:10.540 --> 30:16.940
+And, and, and when he brought Julie Sweatnik out to make accusations against Brett Kavanaugh,
+
+30:16.940 --> 30:21.180
+they were members of the Senate who actually took them seriously and asked questions related to
+
+30:21.180 --> 30:26.140
+that of Kavanaugh's hearing. So this guy was taken seriously in the media and in the Senate
+
+30:26.140 --> 30:34.380
+by at least one Senator. And yeah, now he's doing 16 years. Okay. So you got to wonder, I think,
+
+30:35.100 --> 30:39.420
+I shouldn't say that. I should say you should be skeptical of anyone who's holding themselves
+
+30:39.420 --> 30:45.180
+out as a legal authority on any of this stuff. Now there's one other thing I want to point out
+
+30:45.180 --> 30:50.460
+here. This is something a little more recent. This is the last thing I'm going to share before I
+
+30:50.460 --> 31:02.220
+kind of end my lecture here. This is an article I pulled up just by random. Now I had
+
+31:03.420 --> 31:09.900
+come to this recognition on my own separately. Okay, I had no idea this article was written.
+
+31:10.780 --> 31:13.660
+I was looking into, you know, people who sue for vaccines,
+
+31:14.220 --> 31:18.780
+of vaccine injuries, because that does happen. They're lawyers who take these cases. And I was
+
+31:18.780 --> 31:24.860
+trying to look at how that all that structured. What bothers me about the system we have right
+
+31:24.860 --> 31:33.580
+now is that the Seventh Amendment says I can sue anyone for any injury worth more than $20. Okay,
+
+31:34.300 --> 31:38.860
+it's pretty unambiguous. Okay, then the framers of constitution didn't put any exceptions in there.
+
+31:39.580 --> 31:43.980
+And generally speaking, there are no exceptions to that rule. They're well, there are. I mean,
+
+31:43.980 --> 31:47.820
+you can't sue the federal government unless they've waived sovereign immunity. But there's a few
+
+31:47.820 --> 31:52.220
+other things. So the Seventh Amendment says this. So I'm thinking again about my daughter.
+
+31:52.220 --> 31:59.500
+I'm thinking about going forward. What kind of remedies are available to me? And I see there's
+
+31:59.500 --> 32:08.460
+this vaccine injury compensation program. Okay, it's not a real court. It's an administrative
+
+32:08.460 --> 32:13.100
+hearing essentially where you go ask the government for money. Okay, normally when you get injured
+
+32:13.820 --> 32:19.740
+by a medical product. Okay, you get your medical records and you show it to show the
+
+32:19.740 --> 32:24.860
+injury and you go through the medical, you know, the device manufacturer, the product manufacturer,
+
+32:25.660 --> 32:33.180
+the drug manufacturer. In this case, for vaccines, you have, first of all, law that says you can't
+
+32:33.180 --> 32:40.380
+do that, which seems unconstitutional. How can a law just say I can't sue? And then separately,
+
+32:40.460 --> 32:46.780
+they've set up this channel that sucks and vacuums up all the vaccine injury claims.
+
+32:47.420 --> 32:51.260
+And it takes them to a court called the Court of Federal Claims. The Court of Federal Claims
+
+32:52.060 --> 32:57.020
+is a court that only pays out money. It's just sits in front of a pot of money
+
+32:57.020 --> 33:02.700
+from the taxpayers. And so you take your injury complaint to the Court of Federal Claims, they
+
+33:02.700 --> 33:07.420
+look it over. And if they think you were injured by the vaccine, they pay you out. Some money
+
+33:07.420 --> 33:12.460
+comes out of the taxpayer funds. It does not come from the vaccine manufacturers.
+
+33:13.100 --> 33:19.420
+So what this means is that vaccine manufacturers can put risky, even harmful vaccines on the market.
+
+33:20.540 --> 33:25.500
+And if something goes wrong, and people are injured, people get compensated, but they get
+
+33:25.500 --> 33:33.740
+compensated by the government. Okay. Now, the other thing is that I stumble across somebody
+
+33:33.740 --> 33:41.340
+who was bringing a claim through this process. And I learned that while their claim was pending,
+
+33:41.340 --> 33:46.620
+their lawyer had filed for what they call interim attorney's fees. Now, I'd never heard of this
+
+33:46.620 --> 33:54.380
+before. Normally, when somebody sues on a contingency basis, a contingency basis means the lawyer gets
+
+33:54.380 --> 33:59.020
+paid after that. If you lose, the lawyer doesn't get anything. But if you win a million dollars,
+
+33:59.020 --> 34:03.260
+you know, the lawyer gets a third of that or whatever. That's contingency. Okay. So most of
+
+34:03.260 --> 34:09.580
+these cases are going to be contingency because nobody's got, you know, $500,000 to pay a lawyer
+
+34:09.580 --> 34:22.380
+hourly to sue somebody. So in this case, these lawyers can take junk claims to the Vaccine
+
+34:22.380 --> 34:32.140
+Injury Compensation Court and get paid before the court renders a judgment,
+
+34:33.740 --> 34:40.620
+meaning the lawyers get paid the same as if the case was good for bringing a bad case.
+
+34:41.500 --> 34:51.580
+All right. Now, this creates what economists call a moral hazard. All right. A moral hazard
+
+34:52.940 --> 35:03.180
+is where, let's say you rent a car from Hertz. Normally, you park in a neighborhood where there's
+
+35:03.180 --> 35:07.260
+a high risk of vandalism because you figure, hey, it's not my car. You know, if something happens,
+
+35:07.260 --> 35:11.900
+Hertz will pay for it. If it was your own car, you wouldn't do that. You might park it in a safer
+
+35:11.900 --> 35:15.500
+location because it's not your car and somebody else is paying for it. You park it in a dangerous
+
+35:15.500 --> 35:23.260
+location. It's typically used in the context of insurance because it comes up in an insurance
+
+35:23.260 --> 35:35.820
+cases. So what they're saying here is that a lawyer has no incentive to actually bring a valid
+
+35:35.820 --> 35:46.140
+claim before this Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. And what that means is that any lawyer
+
+35:46.140 --> 35:54.140
+right now who is bringing cases against the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program is not in a good
+
+35:54.140 --> 36:01.020
+position to challenge the constitutionality of the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.
+
+36:01.580 --> 36:07.580
+All right. Because let's say that lawyers got 50 clients who are all seeking payment through
+
+36:07.580 --> 36:15.500
+the VICP. Those clients are might be expecting a few hundred thousand dollars, right? Each, maybe
+
+36:15.500 --> 36:26.220
+more. And if the lawyer on the side is working to push a Seventh Amendment argument that knocks
+
+36:26.220 --> 36:31.900
+down the VICP and says, you know, if this VICP is part of an unconstitutional regime to deprive
+
+36:31.900 --> 36:34.940
+Americans of their Seventh Amendment rights, if the Supreme Court were to say that,
+
+36:37.500 --> 36:42.220
+well, all 50 clients now are out of luck, right? Where are they going to get the money? Now they
+
+36:42.220 --> 36:46.140
+have to go to, now they may have to go to state courts, 50 different state courts. They got to
+
+36:46.140 --> 36:50.860
+hire another lawyer. Maybe there's no lawyers know how to do it. You know, there's all kinds,
+
+36:51.740 --> 36:55.420
+it can effectively prevent them from some of them from getting paid.
+
+36:57.900 --> 37:03.020
+I'll leave it to others to decide whether that constitutes a conflict of interest. But I know
+
+37:03.020 --> 37:11.820
+that if I were looking for a lawyer to challenge this regime, the constitutionality of this regime,
+
+37:11.820 --> 37:19.660
+I would look for a lawyer who is not making money off the regime. And I'm going to leave it there and
+
+37:19.660 --> 37:27.020
+just end my lecture and my introduction. Well, I think that's pretty freaking awesome.
+
+37:28.620 --> 37:35.740
+So you brought a couple things up that I have written down, but maybe I just want to let Mark
+
+37:35.740 --> 37:41.900
+say hello and warm up his mic a little bit because he hasn't been able to warm up his mic. And I
+
+37:41.900 --> 37:48.060
+think we were both kind of wondering what we would get from you first. So it's nice to go back to
+
+37:48.060 --> 37:53.660
+the beginning of this where we met and we came together. And I remember you telling me stories
+
+37:53.660 --> 37:58.860
+about and assuring another friend of ours that there's no way this mandate would stand and
+
+37:59.820 --> 38:04.940
+and you were obviously right. Mark, go ahead. Just come whatever come to your mind this afternoon.
+
+38:05.500 --> 38:19.660
+Well, regular guy, you never fail to deliver. I can see where the ship is being navigated to it
+
+38:21.020 --> 38:34.700
+for as this conversation goes on. It this 30 minutes highlights how naive most of us are
+
+38:35.100 --> 38:48.220
+or perhaps just unaware of the most people have not actually gone through these particular cases,
+
+38:48.220 --> 38:56.060
+these rulings, these Supreme Court opinions. And even if we did, it would be we would be
+
+38:56.140 --> 39:04.940
+unable to actually extract that level of information. And it just it highlights. I mean, we are all
+
+39:04.940 --> 39:10.860
+being compelled whether regardless of where we are in the political spectrum, but the right,
+
+39:10.860 --> 39:16.300
+whatever the heck that's supposed to mean anymore, just to be really angry and fearful and combative.
+
+39:17.020 --> 39:24.220
+And they're it this just highlights have just been some very well thought out arguments.
+
+39:25.500 --> 39:33.340
+It's that it's actually kind of uplifting, right? I mean, even if the assessment
+
+39:33.900 --> 39:39.660
+was a little bit different, right, it goes goes to show that there was a look, this is the law,
+
+39:39.660 --> 39:45.580
+this is precedence, and this is where things are. And it's like, okay, well, whatever that
+
+39:46.220 --> 39:52.940
+leads us, we can, of course, reassess it, right, or perhaps ask for, you know, changes to the law,
+
+39:52.940 --> 39:59.660
+whatever, but I actually find it just an enormous relief to know, okay, there actually has been
+
+40:00.220 --> 40:05.980
+a well thought out assessment that I was unable to review. I couldn't have understood it.
+
+40:07.180 --> 40:13.980
+And I mean, I don't know how you feel, Jay, but to me, this is it's it's kind of a relief
+
+40:14.860 --> 40:19.340
+aside from the details, okay, it's not that we're happy about the resolution. But just to know
+
+40:19.900 --> 40:24.300
+that there has been this level of assessment, in particular, the first opinion piece,
+
+40:25.340 --> 40:29.660
+was just so well thought out. I mean, just the highlighting the OSHA back then. I mean, it
+
+40:29.660 --> 40:36.060
+again, this this we have this perception of the executive orders. Oh, the president could just
+
+40:36.060 --> 40:43.020
+have an executive order for everyone to wear blue jeans on Tuesdays in the country.
+
+40:43.500 --> 40:49.180
+No, it's an executive branch order. And although there's a director of OSHA reporting in the
+
+40:49.180 --> 40:55.580
+executive branch, OSHA is not the White House, it's an agency, right? So we've just been created,
+
+40:55.580 --> 41:01.820
+as you well said, by Congress, by an act of Congress. So it's much more complicated
+
+41:02.700 --> 41:11.180
+and nuanced than we're being led to believe. And again, I don't want to give a spoiler of
+
+41:11.180 --> 41:16.380
+where I think this is going, but I think that you have definitely set the shift in the right
+
+41:16.380 --> 41:25.180
+direction for the rest of the conversation regular guy. Thank you. I, you know, I I I use an analogy
+
+41:25.180 --> 41:33.980
+of a I think a spider waiting to be fed a cricket. That's how I view the Supreme Court
+
+41:34.940 --> 41:40.540
+on these issues right now. I think the difficulty is getting up there.
+
+41:41.980 --> 41:46.380
+And the difficulty in getting to the Supreme Court has nothing to do with the lower courts.
+
+41:47.660 --> 41:55.500
+It really has to do, I think, with the supply of potential litigants and the supply of lawyers
+
+41:55.500 --> 42:02.860
+who are willing to take these cases. The lawyers who are willing to take these cases are not looking
+
+42:02.860 --> 42:09.180
+to push the kinds of arguments that you're seeing here. There's an interesting case that's
+
+42:09.180 --> 42:16.300
+come up in the in the Fifth Circuit out of Texas. Now, this again relates to the original vaccine
+
+42:16.860 --> 42:24.220
+executive order. And this litigation now, there's a petition for certiorari at the Supreme Court,
+
+42:24.220 --> 42:30.940
+meaning that the litigants are asking the Supreme Court to pick it up. And I think the Supreme Court
+
+42:30.940 --> 42:35.500
+will. If you look at who filed that litigation, it was a man named Boyden Gray,
+
+42:36.380 --> 42:44.300
+B-O-Y-D-E-N-G-R-A-Y. And if you look at who Boyden Gray was, he was the guy who
+
+42:45.660 --> 42:51.180
+told three or four different presidents who would nominate to the Supreme Court. He was that powerful.
+
+42:53.260 --> 43:00.620
+He died last year. He's an old guy. But not before he got that litigation kicked off in Texas.
+
+43:01.500 --> 43:07.820
+And that litigation kicked off in 2021. And other lawyers have picked it up and it's at the Supreme
+
+43:07.820 --> 43:14.220
+Court right now. But that is what it took in that case. It took somebody like Boyden Gray,
+
+43:14.780 --> 43:22.220
+somebody who had personally nominated. He had actually been the lawyer who advised George W. Bush
+
+43:22.220 --> 43:30.700
+to nominate Clarence Thomas. I mean, George H. W. Bush and he advised George W. Bush to nominate
+
+43:30.700 --> 43:38.220
+John Roberts. So the guy who put two Supreme Court justices on the court brought that lawsuit
+
+43:40.780 --> 43:50.220
+before he died. So that's what it took in that case. I get very frustrated with the level of
+
+43:50.220 --> 43:58.940
+discourse that I see online because I see a lot of boning us. I see a lot of people who have an
+
+43:58.940 --> 44:05.980
+incentive to disemble on certain topics. And frankly, I see a lot of people that are taking
+
+44:05.980 --> 44:11.420
+case to the vaccine injury compensation program. And by the way, I noticed in the comments people
+
+44:11.420 --> 44:17.180
+mentioned that the COVID vaccine is a countermeasure. That's true. There's a countermeasure
+
+44:17.180 --> 44:23.660
+injury compensation program that's roughly the same as the VICP. It's not as well funded
+
+44:23.660 --> 44:30.060
+right now. And the major difference there is that attorneys can't get interim fees there.
+
+44:30.620 --> 44:37.340
+So attorneys don't have an incentive to bring crappy claims to the CICP like they do with the VICP.
+
+44:37.900 --> 44:45.500
+Now that said, it may not be much of it. It may not mean much of anything because there is a push
+
+44:46.220 --> 44:52.460
+to get full authorization for these vaccines. And once the vaccines get full authorization,
+
+44:52.460 --> 45:00.380
+they'll be in the VICP. They won't be in the CICP. Second of all, both the CICP and the VICP
+
+45:01.100 --> 45:07.260
+exist for the same fundamental purpose. And it's to vacuum up lawsuits that might otherwise go
+
+45:07.260 --> 45:12.940
+to a federal court where someone could actually challenge the constitutionality of the prep act,
+
+45:12.940 --> 45:21.580
+let's say. So they both serve the same purpose. So if you strike at the prep act and you strike at
+
+45:21.580 --> 45:30.140
+the vaccine, the law is a grand immunity to vaccine manufacturers, I think it will have
+
+45:30.140 --> 45:38.700
+the effect of killing off the CICP and the VICP. So I think, you know, for purposes of
+
+45:39.500 --> 45:45.260
+identifying some real unfairness in the system, I think the VICP seems to be the most glaring
+
+45:45.260 --> 45:52.300
+because of those interim attorneys fees. If you can think of any other area of life where a lawyer
+
+45:52.940 --> 46:02.060
+can bring a totally junk claim and get paid by the government, please tell it to Jay so he can
+
+46:02.060 --> 46:06.780
+let me know. Because maybe I'll want to go to law school then and become a lawyer. Who knows?
+
+46:09.420 --> 46:16.300
+It's that absurd. There's no other analogy. And it wasn't until I found that law review article,
+
+46:16.300 --> 46:20.540
+honestly. Actually, I'm not sure it's a law review article, but that article that I posted at the
+
+46:20.540 --> 46:26.300
+end that I realized somebody else had actually looked into this. And it's from 2014, it was issued
+
+46:26.380 --> 46:32.380
+by Liberty University. It didn't come from Harvard, but it was sort of a hallelujah moment for me
+
+46:32.380 --> 46:36.780
+that I realized I wasn't alone. Someone else had noticed this and that, yeah, this is the only
+
+46:36.780 --> 46:42.460
+place where lawyers get paid for bringing junk claims. And the only reason that they can possibly
+
+46:42.460 --> 46:48.860
+be doing that is to prevent any lawyer from ever challenging the constitutionality of it.
+
+46:48.860 --> 46:53.980
+Because as soon as you challenge the constitutionality of it, you risk not getting paid.
+
+46:56.300 --> 47:00.700
+You risk your client not getting paid. And they can drag that on for years, right? In theory.
+
+47:00.700 --> 47:05.660
+That's right. Yeah, a client would have to agree to that. The client would have to sign up
+
+47:06.540 --> 47:12.380
+for all that because most people would not. Most people would say, wait a minute. You
+
+47:12.380 --> 47:17.580
+could have gotten me the easy money at the VICP. Why? What are we doing in Missouri State Court?
+
+47:19.180 --> 47:21.980
+Mark, you have a question. Well, I mean, this is a
+
+47:22.780 --> 47:29.020
+let's stay on subject here. But while this may sound to some like a, you know, we're getting into
+
+47:29.020 --> 47:35.500
+the weeds a little bit here, regular guy just mentions the constitutionality topic. And many
+
+47:35.500 --> 47:46.220
+would say in spite of the many, many challenges and weaknesses are still relatively infant country
+
+47:46.220 --> 47:52.540
+has. And I think the great future it will have is we always, many people refer back to, and I
+
+47:52.540 --> 47:56.860
+will as well, we have a constitution, we have justice, we have the rule of law. Fantastic.
+
+47:56.860 --> 48:06.140
+That's true. Which means if we were to somehow bypass that, well, then it's all open.
+
+48:07.180 --> 48:12.780
+And what you're highlighting here is the the very tip that I hate to can't stand this in
+
+48:12.860 --> 48:20.460
+this phrase, but of a massive iceberg that for some reason is unusually low in the water. And
+
+48:20.460 --> 48:25.820
+you can all it's almost completely under the surface. But you can see a tip of there has been
+
+48:26.380 --> 48:35.420
+a lot of thought into having ways, whether it be compensation programs or
+
+48:35.500 --> 48:46.380
+other methods of approaching the law or having things resolved through arbitration and dialogue
+
+48:46.380 --> 48:55.500
+and separate government programs to avoid the constitution to avoid the rule of law. If there
+
+48:55.500 --> 49:02.780
+were to be a major redirection of the country, what do you do? Well, you find ways to not use
+
+49:02.860 --> 49:08.860
+these great things. So this is not just a tiny little corner case that we are just starting to talk
+
+49:08.860 --> 49:15.660
+about here. This is gigantic. This is galactic right now. And that's just that's the start. So
+
+49:15.660 --> 49:20.380
+just for the audience to tie and sit, I'm trying to tell them why you want to keep listening here
+
+49:20.380 --> 49:26.060
+and why and where this goes. I mean, you know, I know that there's a discussion to be had there
+
+49:26.060 --> 49:33.580
+with respect to patents in particular, because patents in patent law arbitration and mediation
+
+49:33.580 --> 49:38.780
+are used to keep disputes private and to avoid setting precedent. But I'm also sharing here
+
+49:41.420 --> 49:48.860
+an article that came out quite a while ago. I think this is from 2011. No, no, actually maybe
+
+49:48.940 --> 49:58.620
+more recent. I first became aware of issues at the FDA through a lecture that I saw
+
+49:59.260 --> 50:04.380
+by a law professor named Richard Epstein from 2011. You can still find it on YouTube. It still
+
+50:04.380 --> 50:09.980
+probably only has about 30 views. And he spends about two hours just tearing into the FDA.
+
+50:11.420 --> 50:18.300
+Not for any reasons that really are relevant to what we're talking about here. But this is an
+
+50:18.300 --> 50:24.220
+interesting article because it points out that that the FDA violates the first amendment left
+
+50:24.220 --> 50:32.860
+and right, which is true. And the way that it does that is that there's no reason why I shouldn't
+
+50:32.860 --> 50:40.060
+be able to cook up a batch of something on my stove and call it a COVID vaccine or say that it treats
+
+50:40.060 --> 50:48.780
+COVID. I could go out on the street corner, set up a lemonade stand, my lemonade cures COVID
+
+50:49.580 --> 50:55.900
+first amendment. Now, if there's fraud there, somebody can sue me. It's not like there's no legal
+
+50:55.900 --> 51:00.220
+remedies where I can just poison people. I could fight poison in there. I can go to jail.
+
+51:00.700 --> 51:06.300
+All right. What the FDA says is that you can't use those words effective
+
+51:07.340 --> 51:17.420
+COVID, okay, unless you have our permission. Now, this is something that's challenged routinely
+
+51:17.420 --> 51:22.620
+by supplement manufacturers. And that's really what this article is about. Supplement manufacturers
+
+51:22.620 --> 51:27.900
+want to say effective at lowering blood pressure in Yada Yada. And so they sue the FDA and they
+
+51:27.900 --> 51:32.620
+say, hey, you guys are infringing our first amendment rights. And what this says
+
+51:34.700 --> 51:41.020
+that the FDA's response has been to strategically avoid appealing these decisions,
+
+51:41.740 --> 51:48.060
+to construe these decisions as narrowly as possible, and attempt to continue on business as usual.
+
+51:48.060 --> 51:53.340
+So what they mean is that an individual supplement manufacturer might win, and then they go, okay,
+
+51:54.140 --> 51:59.020
+that supplement manufacturer fine. They can put it on their label. But everybody else
+
+51:59.020 --> 52:04.620
+who's making vitamin D, you know, you got to bring your own separate suit, okay. So every
+
+52:04.620 --> 52:09.420
+individual supplement manufacturer that wants to put that on their label has to go and sue the FDA
+
+52:09.420 --> 52:15.180
+and win. All right. Just the fact that one vitamin D manufacturer did it doesn't open the door to
+
+52:15.180 --> 52:22.300
+the rest of them. All right. And so this was a strategy that the FDA was using for a long time.
+
+52:22.380 --> 52:27.420
+Now this is commercial speech, which is still protected under the first amendment, but it has
+
+52:27.420 --> 52:34.300
+has lower protections. But what's interesting about this is that there is a movement in the
+
+52:36.140 --> 52:39.660
+I'll call it the scovid COVID skeptic community right now
+
+52:41.340 --> 52:48.460
+to reform the FDA. I heard Vivek talk about this. I don't know if Vivek is still in the in the
+
+52:48.540 --> 52:54.380
+race, but but the last last I saw he was he was he was talking about this. He was saying, you know,
+
+52:55.100 --> 53:00.540
+the FDA is really unscientific and the FDA does blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now what these people
+
+53:00.540 --> 53:05.980
+are really pushing for is they're pushing for the FDA to have no standard so that anybody can
+
+53:05.980 --> 53:13.100
+sell anything. Okay. What Vivek is complaining about is not that the FDA isn't being rigorous
+
+53:13.100 --> 53:19.420
+enough when it evaluates these drugs for safety and efficacy. What he's saying is, hey, it's so
+
+53:19.420 --> 53:26.460
+sloppy with these vaccines that the drugs my pharma company makes. You know, the FDA has to be
+
+53:26.460 --> 53:32.060
+equally sloppy when it reviews our drugs too. It allowed them to say it's safe and effective.
+
+53:32.060 --> 53:37.660
+It should allow us to say it's safe and effective. Right. And so there's that push that's coming
+
+53:37.740 --> 53:43.820
+from the industry. And so the reason I point this out is to highlight that to the extent that
+
+53:43.820 --> 53:50.860
+people are really spun up and are aware of the constitutional issues here and and to the extent
+
+53:50.860 --> 53:54.700
+there are people who are reading Supreme Court cases who aren't really invested in this,
+
+53:55.900 --> 54:04.540
+they're not on your side. And that includes, I think, some of the ones that are holding themselves
+
+54:04.540 --> 54:12.220
+out there is COVID skeptics. I think they have legal interests that they are protecting by
+
+54:12.220 --> 54:18.460
+saying the problem's over here. It's not over there. You know, these people who are telling you,
+
+54:18.460 --> 54:26.860
+for example, that this key to suing Pfizer is to find that they committed some kind of willful
+
+54:26.860 --> 54:33.260
+fraud. They lied. They committed some crime. They knew it was bad. They knew it was taint,
+
+54:33.260 --> 54:39.180
+this kind of stuff. If you look at the prep act, yeah, there's a little section in the prep act
+
+54:39.180 --> 54:48.140
+that says that the immunity doesn't apply for willful misconduct. The thing is all these lawyers
+
+54:48.140 --> 54:52.140
+who are doing this, they're trying to work within the parameters of the prep act. In other words,
+
+54:52.140 --> 54:57.820
+they accept the constitutionality of the prep act as a given. And they're saying since the prep act
+
+54:57.820 --> 55:04.620
+says we can sue for willful misconduct, we'll go look for willful misconduct. None of them are
+
+55:04.620 --> 55:10.380
+saying, hey, wait a minute, I should be able to sue for any negligence. I should be able to sue
+
+55:10.380 --> 55:16.460
+for any injury again. I shouldn't have to prove that they intended to do it. I don't have to prove
+
+55:16.460 --> 55:23.500
+that the landlord intended to make the stairs slippery. All I have to prove is that he didn't
+
+55:23.500 --> 55:32.700
+come out and shovel him. Interesting, interesting, interesting. Yes, I see, I see.
+
+55:33.580 --> 55:40.380
+It's tricky. We can have more conversations about it later too. I mean, this is all broad
+
+55:40.380 --> 55:46.300
+brush overstrokes. And, you know, I'm talking here about things that I've observed over the course
+
+55:46.380 --> 55:54.620
+of two years. Again, all I've been this entire time is a father concerned about,
+
+55:55.500 --> 56:01.100
+you know, there was a proposed vaccine law at one point that almost went into effect that would
+
+56:01.100 --> 56:05.100
+have required my daughter to get vaccinated to go to school. And I had a problem with that.
+
+56:06.060 --> 56:13.660
+And, you know, I, and so from day one, I've been solely focused on that one. That's been my primary
+
+56:13.660 --> 56:18.780
+focus, I would say. But along the way, I've fallen down X number of rabbit holes.
+
+56:20.700 --> 56:24.780
+And, you know, the reason I'm on this show, by the way, is because
+
+56:26.540 --> 56:31.660
+JC is the only person that I've talked to over the course of two years who's consistently,
+
+56:31.660 --> 56:39.100
+I think, thought about this stuff logically. And honestly, everybody else that I've talked to,
+
+56:39.100 --> 56:44.700
+I run into a brick wall with them at some point. JC's been the only one that seems to follow it.
+
+56:45.580 --> 56:51.100
+So, you know, I've kept talking. And it just got to the point where, you know,
+
+56:51.660 --> 56:56.060
+I felt maybe I should introduce myself because I want people to get the full picture and help
+
+56:56.060 --> 57:01.420
+chase, help them understand. You know, like JC said, the depth of the conversations that are
+
+57:01.420 --> 57:07.740
+happening behind the scenes. Do you think that others are intentionally?
+
+57:09.260 --> 57:15.420
+Falling in or take going into those areas? Or do you think that they're, they are subject to
+
+57:15.420 --> 57:21.900
+fallacies that even they are unaware of? I even know what question I think I just want you to
+
+57:21.900 --> 57:26.060
+expand upon. Well, okay, so first of all, yeah, first of all, most of the people who are
+
+57:26.940 --> 57:31.820
+holding themselves out as that I see online. Okay, so I've got many friends who are
+
+57:32.700 --> 57:37.660
+anti-vaxxers and I'll stop by their homes. And they want to show me a YouTube video,
+
+57:37.660 --> 57:41.340
+some lawyer saying, oh, this is amazing. You got to hear this. You got to hear this.
+
+57:42.460 --> 57:47.340
+And inevitably, it's junk. I can't make it through the first 30 seconds because I can tell it's
+
+57:47.340 --> 57:54.220
+just gibberish. Now, most of these people are not as far as I can tell real practicing lawyers.
+
+57:54.220 --> 58:00.300
+Okay, one of them, probably the most famous one. I went and looked at the guy's website
+
+58:02.060 --> 58:07.100
+to see like, you know, how it stacks up against other lawyers' websites. And I see that he
+
+58:07.180 --> 58:12.540
+advertises himself, he advertises paralegal services. The guy's actually offering to do
+
+58:12.540 --> 58:19.020
+work as a paralegal, even though he's got a law degree. That's weird. Okay, that suggests to me
+
+58:19.020 --> 58:23.820
+that this guy has never actually practiced law. He's out there, you know, he's really desperate
+
+58:23.820 --> 58:28.620
+enough that he's going to hold himself on his own website as a paralegal. But he's out here,
+
+58:28.620 --> 58:34.460
+you know, getting all kinds of comments on social media and stuff, you know. And I see that kind
+
+58:34.540 --> 58:41.260
+of stuff a lot. I just see jokers. I don't see, you know, the where I see the legit players,
+
+58:41.260 --> 58:44.700
+when I look at the names that are on the filings, like I mentioned Boyd and Gray,
+
+58:45.580 --> 58:50.460
+the only reason I noticed Boyd and Gray was because I read a writ for Sir Shirari,
+
+58:50.460 --> 58:54.700
+he came up at Supreme Court and I looked at the law firm that was at the bottom and I had his name
+
+58:54.700 --> 58:59.980
+on it. And I said, the hell, could that be the same guy? And sure enough, it was. But there was no
+
+59:00.540 --> 59:07.580
+news about him doing this. Nobody made a big stink about it. He didn't seek fame for it.
+
+59:09.340 --> 59:14.140
+I think that there are organizations out there that are probably
+
+59:15.820 --> 59:22.540
+supportive of this kind of thing on some level. But it's hard to say because, you know,
+
+59:23.020 --> 59:29.740
+the big ones that I know of are affiliated with law schools and the law school faculty
+
+59:29.740 --> 59:37.020
+who run them may have conflicting interests. So I'm not sure that those organizations are the
+
+59:39.660 --> 59:48.060
+best. I will say that George Mason University has did some early litigation related to this stuff.
+
+59:48.540 --> 59:53.340
+I don't know quite where they are right now, but they've got a pretty activist law school there.
+
+59:55.660 --> 01:00:03.740
+But other organizations, it's hard to say because, you know, the way that the legal profession
+
+01:00:03.740 --> 01:00:11.980
+operates is that people come out of law school, if they come out of a top law school,
+
+01:00:12.940 --> 01:00:18.300
+they're recruited while they're in school. And they're typically recruited by big firms.
+
+01:00:18.300 --> 01:00:25.020
+People are usually trying to work for these big firms. And so they get this kind of exposure
+
+01:00:25.020 --> 01:00:29.340
+to the corporate side of things right out of law school. And then if they want to transition
+
+01:00:29.340 --> 01:00:33.900
+to something else, they've got the golden handcuffs at that point that, you know, they don't want
+
+01:00:33.900 --> 01:00:37.820
+to take too much of a pay cut. So they're looking to go in-house somewhere. You know,
+
+01:00:37.820 --> 01:00:41.740
+they're looking for somebody that's going to pay. There aren't too many people out there that
+
+01:00:41.740 --> 01:00:48.860
+don't, that have the credentials that haven't gone through that sort of career trajectory.
+
+01:00:49.500 --> 01:00:54.300
+Okay. You look at Boyd and Gray, he was at the end of his career when he filed that lawsuit.
+
+01:00:56.300 --> 01:01:00.940
+So can I push back on that for a little bit just to see how this affects your opinion? So
+
+01:01:02.700 --> 01:01:08.060
+Boyd and Gray put forth Clarence Thomas. Clarence Thomas was a Monsanto lawyer.
+
+01:01:08.940 --> 01:01:11.740
+My odd,
+
+01:01:14.780 --> 01:01:21.580
+my spidey sense is wondering if you could imagine a scenario where these lawsuits that you covered
+
+01:01:22.300 --> 01:01:30.380
+that we discussed, they were percureum. And even these things would to go with the FDA are all kind of
+
+01:01:30.940 --> 01:01:39.180
+a probing, a probing exercise from both sides of the aisle, from the left and from the right
+
+01:01:39.180 --> 01:01:48.300
+to try and see how these, where the holes are in the, in the legislative, you know, wall so that
+
+01:01:48.300 --> 01:01:55.420
+they can change these things or institute mandates. So maybe the OSHA thing was just a test and that
+
+01:01:55.420 --> 01:01:59.820
+didn't work, but they got an answer from the Supreme Court that will allow them to test it again next
+
+01:01:59.900 --> 01:02:08.860
+time. And so to what extent could Boyd and Gray's lawsuit be just another test of where the holes
+
+01:02:08.860 --> 01:02:14.860
+are in the system, given that Boyd and Gray is some kind of dude who at least seems to have promoted
+
+01:02:14.860 --> 01:02:20.540
+Clarence Thomas, who in the past, I used to think was kind of a bad guy. I know that he's a
+
+01:02:20.540 --> 01:02:28.060
+conservative judge, but I also knew that he worked for some pretty shady corporation. So does that
+
+01:02:28.700 --> 01:02:35.340
+go well? Well, I, you know, my take on Thomas is that I think is, I think is his career before
+
+01:02:35.340 --> 01:02:40.540
+coming to federal service was fairly innocuous. He worked, he was chairman of the EEOC,
+
+01:02:42.300 --> 01:02:52.220
+which is normally an extremely, I would say, let's call it liberal or agency. Okay. And to put a guy
+
+01:02:52.220 --> 01:02:59.100
+like that in charge of the EEOC was pretty significant. And I don't know what kind of
+
+01:02:59.100 --> 01:03:05.580
+reputation you earned at the EEOC, but Bush had to fill Thurgood Marshall's seat. And of course,
+
+01:03:05.580 --> 01:03:13.020
+he had pressure to fill with an African American. And now what I'll say about Thomas as a justice
+
+01:03:13.020 --> 01:03:19.820
+is that he doesn't really care about precedent. And I think he has a point. Why should Clarence
+
+01:03:19.820 --> 01:03:26.380
+Thomas care what some other Supreme Court justice had to say in 1911? Clarence Thomas,
+
+01:03:26.380 --> 01:03:31.340
+Supreme Court justice too. So he's not, he doesn't care about precedent. He's happy to overturn it.
+
+01:03:33.660 --> 01:03:42.300
+And, you know, he's got, he's got some other other quirks. But in general, he's been, I would say,
+
+01:03:42.300 --> 01:03:47.260
+intellectually consistent, much more so than Scalia. He used to get accused of copying Scalia,
+
+01:03:47.260 --> 01:03:52.380
+but it's really not like, really never liked that at all. People say they never ask questions
+
+01:03:52.380 --> 01:03:57.100
+at oral argument. But if you go to the YouTube, if you go on YouTube, you check me on this,
+
+01:03:57.100 --> 01:04:03.340
+you can listen to the oral arguments on these vaccine mandate lawsuits that I read over.
+
+01:04:04.460 --> 01:04:10.860
+And the first question to the solicitor generals from Thomas, and he says, what was the emergency?
+
+01:04:11.820 --> 01:04:17.820
+Which is a good question. This is an emergency declaration. What was the emergency in October 2021?
+
+01:04:17.820 --> 01:04:23.020
+So the vaccines have been out for nine months at that point. What was the emergency? COVID had been
+
+01:04:23.020 --> 01:04:28.620
+around for, you know, almost two years, right? Which is a very good question because it gets to the
+
+01:04:28.620 --> 01:04:34.700
+issue of whether this was an abuse of an emergency authority. Now, what I think, where I think this
+
+01:04:35.340 --> 01:04:44.140
+is headed, is for the Supreme Court to strike down some of these emergency authority provisions.
+
+01:04:44.140 --> 01:04:52.140
+Okay. Now, I've got, I'm sharing here the actual law that confers this liability.
+
+01:04:56.540 --> 01:05:01.340
+Now, right here, subject to other provisions of this section, a covered person, she'll be immune
+
+01:05:01.340 --> 01:05:07.020
+from suit and liability under federal state law with her. Okay. That's just saying Seventh
+
+01:05:07.020 --> 01:05:15.420
+Amendment doesn't work here. Okay. So no Seventh Amendment. And if you go down to where, yeah,
+
+01:05:15.420 --> 01:05:20.860
+declaration of the secretary. So this kicks in as soon as the secretary makes a determination.
+
+01:05:20.860 --> 01:05:27.900
+And the secretary doesn't have to do any science here. The secretary simply has to consider
+
+01:05:27.980 --> 01:05:31.100
+certain things. If you look at the verbs, factors to be considered,
+
+01:05:31.740 --> 01:05:37.420
+consider these things. Okay. And then look at this. No court of the United States,
+
+01:05:37.420 --> 01:05:42.380
+right here, Number seven, or any state shall have subject manager restriction to review whether
+
+01:05:42.380 --> 01:05:48.460
+by mandamus or otherwise any action by the secretary under the subsection. Meaning you can't challenge
+
+01:05:48.460 --> 01:05:54.460
+what the secretary's decision here, even though there isn't a requirement that the secretary be
+
+01:05:54.460 --> 01:06:03.420
+particularly scientific here. Okay. So this is a very weak standard for supporting suspension
+
+01:06:03.420 --> 01:06:10.620
+of people's Seventh Amendment rights. Okay. I think Thomas is sympathetic to that.
+
+01:06:11.180 --> 01:06:21.980
+I think he's more than happy to get rid of that stuff. What's occurred recently that I haven't
+
+01:06:21.980 --> 01:06:30.860
+talked about is really a bigger change. If you Google Chevron Doctrine, there's a case from 1984,
+
+01:06:31.500 --> 01:06:36.540
+very famous Supreme Court case that establishes a rule that basically says that whenever an
+
+01:06:36.540 --> 01:06:41.580
+agency makes a determination that requires any kind of scientific expertise, any kind of scientific
+
+01:06:41.580 --> 01:06:48.220
+judgment, courts are supposed to defer to the agency experts because judges are English majors
+
+01:06:48.220 --> 01:06:52.780
+and polyside majors. They don't know anything about, you know, nuclear physics or any of that
+
+01:06:52.780 --> 01:06:58.940
+crap that the EPA does. So just trust the experts. Trust the expert to the agency. And it's a rule.
+
+01:06:58.940 --> 01:07:04.380
+Okay. It's a, it's an instruction from the Supreme Court that basically says, you know, if when in
+
+01:07:04.380 --> 01:07:10.620
+doubt, go with the, with, with the agency, what the government says. Okay. Now this is called
+
+01:07:10.620 --> 01:07:16.700
+Chevron Decorance and it's, and it's a form of, you're deferring to the executive branch. It's the
+
+01:07:16.700 --> 01:07:21.580
+judicial branch deferring to the executive branch. So it's a separation of powers issue.
+
+01:07:22.380 --> 01:07:28.940
+What's happened is that the court in recent years has just disregarded it. Okay. So for example,
+
+01:07:30.060 --> 01:07:38.060
+Thomas's question, an oral argument, what was the emergency? The law says you can't ask that
+
+01:07:38.060 --> 01:07:46.140
+question. Okay. The law says no, no one can review the secretary's declaration here. Well, Thomas
+
+01:07:46.140 --> 01:07:50.940
+is saying, I don't care about that law. I'm asking you what the emergency was. And the
+
+01:07:50.940 --> 01:07:56.300
+solicitor general didn't say, oh, um, uh, Justice Thomas, uh, you can't ask that question. It's illegal.
+
+01:07:56.940 --> 01:08:01.180
+You know, I'm, I mean, they'd be inviting destruction at that point, right?
+
+01:08:02.540 --> 01:08:08.780
+And so I think the task is, and I think there are many people on the court who are sympathetic to
+
+01:08:08.780 --> 01:08:12.060
+this. Brett Kavanaugh, before he was on the Supreme Court, was on the D.C. Circuit.
+
+01:08:13.020 --> 01:08:18.060
+He's on the D.C. Circuit for, I think, 12 years. He wrote something like 300 opinions.
+
+01:08:20.060 --> 01:08:25.900
+If you read any of his opinions at random, he would go into these agency decision-making processes.
+
+01:08:25.900 --> 01:08:32.300
+A lot of detail. This is something that the D.C. Circuit does a lot. He's very much a fan of
+
+01:08:32.300 --> 01:08:37.820
+getting rid of this junk about agency deference. Um, I think Gorsuch is fine with it.
+
+01:08:38.380 --> 01:08:41.900
+Well, you know, he's got no problem with it. And then it's just a question of, you know,
+
+01:08:41.900 --> 01:08:45.420
+is Robert's going to write the opinion or is he going to let someone else do it? Okay.
+
+01:08:46.140 --> 01:08:50.780
+But that's assuming a case actually gets up there. To get a case up there, you've got to get
+
+01:08:50.780 --> 01:08:56.540
+what's called standing. You have to convince a court that you have the right to sue. And to have
+
+01:08:56.540 --> 01:09:01.420
+the right to sue, you have to show an injury. An injury can't be speculative. It's got to be a
+
+01:09:01.420 --> 01:09:07.180
+real, you know, injury that you're going to experience as a result of this law. And a lot of people
+
+01:09:07.180 --> 01:09:12.380
+have trouble at that stage. A lot of people have trouble showing that they have standing.
+
+01:09:12.380 --> 01:09:19.340
+And so Boyden Gray's genius was getting standing in Texas before he died. And it was really odd
+
+01:09:19.340 --> 01:09:26.060
+how he did that. I can go into in detail, but I might bore people. But it was a really interesting,
+
+01:09:26.060 --> 01:09:29.900
+really interesting case. The starters really had to align there. And you had to have the right lawyer
+
+01:09:29.900 --> 01:09:36.620
+looking for it. I think maybe the best analogy is Peter Thiel. When Hulk Hogan sued Gawker,
+
+01:09:37.260 --> 01:09:42.860
+he sued Gawker in a bankruptcy, put them out of business. Now the way that began was that Gawker
+
+01:09:42.860 --> 01:09:48.220
+had revealed that Peter Thiel was gay and Peter Thiel didn't like this. He wanted to put Gawker
+
+01:09:48.220 --> 01:09:53.900
+out of business. He hired a team of lawyers to read every Gawker article about every celebrity
+
+01:09:54.460 --> 01:09:59.100
+and find some celebrities who could bring like a defamation or invasion of privacy claim or something
+
+01:09:59.100 --> 01:10:04.940
+against Gawker. And then see if they could sign them up to bring this lawsuit. And so this team of
+
+01:10:04.940 --> 01:10:08.620
+lawyers went through all these Gawker articles and they found this stuff on Hulk Hogan. And they
+
+01:10:08.620 --> 01:10:13.740
+called Hulk Hogan and they said, Hey, would you like us to rep you for free to sue Gawker for 25
+
+01:10:13.740 --> 01:10:19.260
+million? And Hulk Hogan said, Sure. And then they went and sued Gawker and they put Gawker out of
+
+01:10:19.260 --> 01:10:25.180
+business. Right? So it took a team of lawyers going and looking for a sympathetic litigant.
+
+01:10:26.620 --> 01:10:30.540
+The other analogy that I sometimes use is Rosa Parks because a lot of people think that Rosa
+
+01:10:30.620 --> 01:10:35.180
+Parks just, you know, got off work one day, got on the bus, feet were tired, didn't want to move.
+
+01:10:36.060 --> 01:10:42.060
+But actually, no, Rosa Parks was on the board of the local NAACP. What had happened was that
+
+01:10:42.060 --> 01:10:48.380
+another woman had been kicked off the bus for refusing to move. But that woman was a pregnant
+
+01:10:48.380 --> 01:10:52.940
+teenager and they didn't want to hurt her to be the face of the movement. Rosa Parks knew this
+
+01:10:52.940 --> 01:10:56.780
+particular bus driver, knew that he was a stickler for the rules, knew that, you know,
+
+01:10:57.500 --> 01:11:01.900
+if she didn't move on that bus, that particular bus driver would make a big stink about it
+
+01:11:01.900 --> 01:11:09.980
+and got on that bus and, you know, and brought impact litigation. Okay. So it took that kind
+
+01:11:09.980 --> 01:11:16.620
+of an effort. Okay. And a lot of these cases took organization planning and money resources to do
+
+01:11:16.620 --> 01:11:22.060
+it. And that's something that you don't see anyone trying to put together right now. I don't think.
+
+01:11:23.020 --> 01:11:27.500
+Oh, man, that was a great summary. I'm so excited that you said that and said it in that way,
+
+01:11:27.500 --> 01:11:31.820
+because I think that's, that's really what we're talking about with the Seventh Amendment, right?
+
+01:11:31.820 --> 01:11:39.100
+We, we have to have the right litigant willing with the right lawyer willing and with the right
+
+01:11:39.100 --> 01:11:47.580
+strategy worked out. And nobody's playing that game right now. Well, what a shame that every lawyer
+
+01:11:47.660 --> 01:11:54.540
+who might, you know, who's already in the vaccine injury game is taking claims to the vaccine
+
+01:11:54.540 --> 01:12:03.260
+injury compensation program and has, I think, a conflict of interest against taking any other
+
+01:12:03.260 --> 01:12:12.860
+vaccine injury case that would go through another venue. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, they must have,
+
+01:12:12.860 --> 01:12:17.820
+there must be litigants who don't need the money. I mean, I can imagine an old commercial
+
+01:12:17.820 --> 01:12:24.940
+airline pilot who doesn't really care about the $800,000 he might get, but really wants to
+
+01:12:25.660 --> 01:12:30.700
+to change something because he's a patriot. Well, don't talk too much about it right now, but,
+
+01:12:30.700 --> 01:12:34.620
+but, but, you know, don't don't give too much away. Oh, yeah. It's happened. If that's the case,
+
+01:12:34.620 --> 01:12:40.540
+but, but I would say that, you know, it, it, it certainly, yeah, it, it, it takes the right
+
+01:12:40.540 --> 01:12:47.500
+confluence of, of, of personalities and, and, and, and people with some determination and
+
+01:12:48.060 --> 01:12:54.140
+that, that, that, and I want to get back to, you know, that, that VICP program with the interim fees
+
+01:12:54.140 --> 01:13:02.860
+where lawyers get paid fees for non-meritorious claims. That has the effect of drawing every
+
+01:13:02.860 --> 01:13:08.940
+good claim in addition to all the junk claims through the vaccine injury compensation program.
+
+01:13:08.940 --> 01:13:14.540
+It has the effect of ensuring that 100% of vaccine injury lawyers are going to take
+
+01:13:14.540 --> 01:13:19.740
+cases through the vaccine injury compensation program, right? Because it's free money,
+
+01:13:19.740 --> 01:13:28.060
+it's guaranteed money, win or lose, the lawyer gets paid. And that, it is, that, it was created
+
+01:13:28.860 --> 01:13:36.620
+with the express purpose of draining the swamp of any lawyer who might take a vaccine injury case
+
+01:13:36.620 --> 01:13:43.020
+through another venue. It means the entire legal profession is barren of a lawyer who with any
+
+01:13:43.020 --> 01:13:48.380
+experience doing that sort of thing or any desire to do that sort of thing or the ability
+
+01:13:48.380 --> 01:13:56.700
+due to the conflict of interest issue. I have two questions. One is before we lose it,
+
+01:13:57.580 --> 01:14:03.100
+when you said Roberts, a Gorsuch had no problem with the Chevron deference,
+
+01:14:04.460 --> 01:14:08.860
+deference, excuse me. There's no problem killing it. No problem killing it. Okay,
+
+01:14:08.860 --> 01:14:14.860
+I just wanted to be clear with that because, again, this is another, how do you take away
+
+01:14:14.860 --> 01:14:23.660
+powers from the Supreme Court? Well, you, you continuously have, you know, steer people towards
+
+01:14:23.660 --> 01:14:31.500
+very technically complicated cases where only, you know, the science, if you will,
+
+01:14:31.500 --> 01:14:38.380
+in another agency or an executive branch can determine which way it goes, right? Right. But
+
+01:14:38.380 --> 01:14:45.980
+the other one was, let's see, you just mentioned the, oh, yeah, the vaccine injury. Do you see,
+
+01:14:46.860 --> 01:14:52.060
+in the, in the, what we refer to as the truth or dissident movement,
+
+01:14:53.660 --> 01:14:59.660
+reaffirmation of these programs of like the vaccine injury court, as they saying, oh, yeah,
+
+01:14:59.660 --> 01:15:05.100
+please, and not getting people to realize that they're effectively doubling down and pursuing
+
+01:15:05.100 --> 01:15:12.860
+something that should be outside of our constitution of our, yes, yes, because every lawyer that's
+
+01:15:12.860 --> 01:15:21.420
+doing vaccine injury litigation, if you go to their law firm website, you will see that they
+
+01:15:21.420 --> 01:15:28.620
+take their clients through the vaccine injury compensation program. So they may want to get
+
+01:15:28.620 --> 01:15:35.100
+discovery and prove certain facts about, you know, what this scientist was doing in Africa or this
+
+01:15:35.100 --> 01:15:40.220
+and this and that. Okay. But the question is, what are you going to do with it? Where's it all going?
+
+01:15:41.100 --> 01:15:46.780
+If it's just getting released to the public, then it can inform the political process.
+
+01:15:47.740 --> 01:15:51.260
+But you're not taking it to court, and you're not talking about
+
+01:15:52.780 --> 01:15:57.340
+simple things like the Seventh Amendment and the fact that there's a legislative regime
+
+01:15:57.980 --> 01:16:04.540
+designed to deprive, very neatly designed, very carefully designed to deprive people of their
+
+01:16:04.540 --> 01:16:08.540
+Seventh Amendment rights. The people who wrote this law knew what they were doing. They knew that
+
+01:16:09.420 --> 01:16:14.940
+that provision that says a judge can't review it. That's called jurisdiction stripping. And
+
+01:16:15.900 --> 01:16:22.300
+most lawyers, they've learned about jurisdiction stripping as a theoretical thing that Congress
+
+01:16:22.300 --> 01:16:27.740
+could do sometime, you know, in the future. But it's bad. If you do a Google search on jurisdiction
+
+01:16:27.740 --> 01:16:33.820
+stripping, you'll see all these op-eds that say, you know, it might be a good eye. It might be
+
+01:16:33.820 --> 01:16:38.220
+possible. It might be constitutional, but it's a bad idea. It would poison inter-branch relations.
+
+01:16:39.020 --> 01:16:45.100
+Nobody seems to recognize that it's been done, that it was done in 2005 in the PrEP Act.
+
+01:16:45.740 --> 01:16:49.660
+Okay. Nobody, I don't, if nobody's going and reading these things, I don't know.
+
+01:16:49.660 --> 01:16:54.700
+But, you know, start there. The fact that you've got a law that says a judge can't review this law,
+
+01:16:55.740 --> 01:17:01.420
+that's not normal for Congress to pass a law and say, oh, by the way, no judge can review this law
+
+01:17:01.420 --> 01:17:09.020
+and decide whether it's constitutional. But that, you know, to see that jurisdiction stripping is
+
+01:17:09.020 --> 01:17:16.620
+done, and then to look at the mechanisms that were put in place to ensure that the constitutionality
+
+01:17:17.180 --> 01:17:24.140
+would never be challenged, right? That's where the VICP and the CICP comment, right? You're doing
+
+01:17:24.140 --> 01:17:27.660
+something unconstitutional. You're stripping people. They're Seventh Amendment rights sue.
+
+01:17:28.460 --> 01:17:33.740
+But you're denying them standing because they can't show an injury because they're getting paid
+
+01:17:33.740 --> 01:17:39.580
+out by the VICP, by the taxpayers. So if they try to sue and say, this is unconstitutional,
+
+01:17:39.580 --> 01:17:43.260
+the court's going to, the district court, the trial court's going to say, well, how are you
+
+01:17:43.260 --> 01:17:47.580
+injured? You know, you could go to the VICP and you could get a free lawyer because the government
+
+01:17:47.580 --> 01:17:52.700
+paid for it, and you could get, you know, your $500,000 paid out. They recognize your vaccine
+
+01:17:52.780 --> 01:17:58.620
+injury claim. So where's the injury? You got your money, right? And if you want to say, well,
+
+01:17:58.620 --> 01:18:03.420
+I wanted to sue Pfizer. I didn't want taxpayer dollars. I wanted to get the money for Pfizer.
+
+01:18:03.420 --> 01:18:09.820
+The courts can say, hey, money's money, you know? And so you're not going to have standing. You're
+
+01:18:09.820 --> 01:18:14.220
+not going to be able to bring that lawsuit, right? In order to really bring that lawsuit,
+
+01:18:14.220 --> 01:18:18.940
+you got to have some, you got to be able to say that this VICP program is denying you some,
+
+01:18:19.580 --> 01:18:26.700
+some, it's causing you some injury. And that, you know, I'm not quite sure how you'd frame that,
+
+01:18:26.700 --> 01:18:33.020
+but, you know, I've thought on that, but it's really, we're not there yet. It's more about,
+
+01:18:33.740 --> 01:18:38.940
+you know, this was structured this way. And I should add too that that passage I opened
+
+01:18:39.820 --> 01:18:43.020
+with that law professor giving those oral remarks about these ripple effects.
+
+01:18:43.980 --> 01:18:48.940
+That person is one of the chief architects, a lot of the stuff that we're going on that we're
+
+01:18:48.940 --> 01:18:56.460
+seeing right now. His name is Cass Sunstein teaches at Harvard now. He's, you know, he works for
+
+01:18:56.460 --> 01:19:00.780
+Department of Homeland Security. Wikipedia doesn't say that. If you go to Cass Sunstein's Wikipedia
+
+01:19:00.780 --> 01:19:05.740
+page, it does not mention that he currently works for Department of Homeland Security,
+
+01:19:05.740 --> 01:19:10.220
+but he does. And he's married to Samantha Power. And he worked for Obama as well.
+
+01:19:10.300 --> 01:19:17.340
+Yes, he's a married to Samantha Power. Yes, he is. Oh, my goodness. That's right. Oh, my goodness.
+
+01:19:17.340 --> 01:19:22.380
+That's right. He gave he, yes, he gave that quote that I read at the beginning from 1989.
+
+01:19:22.380 --> 01:19:27.500
+Sunstein. Nice. Yeah. How was that spelled again? If I may.
+
+01:19:27.500 --> 01:19:32.460
+S-U-N-S-T-E-I-N. He also wrote a book called Nudge. Yes.
+
+01:19:33.340 --> 01:19:37.260
+Cognitive infiltration. Think about, you know, what, I think the way to think about these
+
+01:19:37.260 --> 01:19:40.940
+executive orders, Mark, you brought this up. An executive order comes out and it's not apparent
+
+01:19:40.940 --> 01:19:46.300
+to people that, hey, that only applies to government agencies. That's by design. Okay, that's nudging.
+
+01:19:47.100 --> 01:19:52.380
+This is, you know, the governor comes out and says, it's illegal for people to have gatherings
+
+01:19:52.380 --> 01:19:58.780
+of more than 10 people. Now, the reality is that it's probably not constitutional to enforce that.
+
+01:19:59.420 --> 01:20:07.020
+But everybody obeys it anyway. Okay. Enough people obey it. And that's all it counts, right?
+
+01:20:07.020 --> 01:20:12.780
+So with these vaccine mandates, the legalities to some extent were secondary. The fact that it
+
+01:20:12.780 --> 01:20:17.740
+might get knocked down in courts in 90 days, I think, I think that was understood because it was a
+
+01:20:17.740 --> 01:20:21.580
+really poorly written executive order. And Biden said when he issued it, he said, I'll go ahead
+
+01:20:21.580 --> 01:20:27.100
+and challenge it. I don't care. And I think the point was to get everybody into this mindset of,
+
+01:20:27.100 --> 01:20:32.540
+well, I got to run out and get back, so I'm going to lose my job, right? And that's all took. It
+
+01:20:32.620 --> 01:20:38.460
+was a nudge, right? The legalities of it were sort of insignificant. And you're right,
+
+01:20:38.460 --> 01:20:44.460
+JC, yeah, I did. I did look at it and go, this isn't going to last 90 days. And it didn't last
+
+01:20:44.460 --> 01:20:49.580
+90 days. But, you know, it didn't, but there are people who still think it's an effect.
+
+01:20:50.700 --> 01:20:54.380
+And for that matter, states can, you know, experiment and do their own thing, right? This
+
+01:20:54.380 --> 01:20:58.540
+was just a federal thing. I don't know what various states are doing.
+
+01:20:59.500 --> 01:21:05.500
+So is there any way, not just, I don't want to take too much of your time today. And I know Mark
+
+01:21:05.500 --> 01:21:10.460
+is also busy. Is there any way we can convince you to join us again for a patent law discussion
+
+01:21:10.460 --> 01:21:15.340
+about, about the antibody paradox, maybe a couple of times? Because I know it's a lot of,
+
+01:21:16.300 --> 01:21:21.340
+yeah, I mean, it's not, it's not, that's not something that. So, so patent law is, is a very
+
+01:21:22.460 --> 01:21:28.220
+deep, complicated, rich area of the law, with a lot of doctrine attached to it. And there's
+
+01:21:28.300 --> 01:21:32.860
+special qualifications that are required to even sit for the patent bar. You have to have a certain
+
+01:21:32.860 --> 01:21:37.580
+number of STEM credits and all that. And, and, and I'm in no position to really
+
+01:21:39.500 --> 01:21:45.740
+dive in deep on, on that sort of stuff. However, I do see in broad brushstrokes
+
+01:21:46.700 --> 01:21:54.860
+things that may be happening. And I think that they are connected to, I think some of the things
+
+01:21:54.940 --> 01:22:02.300
+that we're seeing in the, the vaccine skeptic movement, let's, let's call it, may be linked
+
+01:22:03.020 --> 01:22:11.820
+somewhat to the, the, the, the change in the, the legal landscape for some of these patents. I do
+
+01:22:11.820 --> 01:22:19.820
+think that areas of the law that, it's the patents that used to be more lucrative may have suddenly
+
+01:22:19.820 --> 01:22:25.740
+become less lucrative. Now, I don't know really what to make of that. I, because it's all recent,
+
+01:22:25.740 --> 01:22:30.220
+and I'm only sort of looking at it from the outside. So, well, if you could just, you know,
+
+01:22:30.220 --> 01:22:35.020
+be a light guard in a shadow, I offer a regular guys opinion. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know,
+
+01:22:35.020 --> 01:22:40.460
+okay. Yeah, that would be wonderful. I think that would be really fun. Mark, did you have any
+
+01:22:41.420 --> 01:22:47.740
+kind of closing remarks? I think it's going to take Mark and I a while to, to imagine the
+
+01:22:47.740 --> 01:22:54.300
+possibilities with you now that you're occasionally offering your time because I do think that,
+
+01:22:55.420 --> 01:23:00.780
+you know, as a, as a regular guy who has a lot of the same concerns that we do about our kid's
+
+01:23:00.780 --> 01:23:07.180
+future and how the, how the government is going to impose its will on our kid's future.
+
+01:23:08.940 --> 01:23:13.900
+I think it would be really handy to have you as, as a more regular guest and more importantly,
+
+01:23:14.780 --> 01:23:20.780
+um, again, like a shallow end lifeguard, you know, just, just keep your hands off of everybody or
+
+01:23:20.780 --> 01:23:25.180
+where's your buddy or whatever. And don't say that because that's dumb. I think would be really
+
+01:23:25.180 --> 01:23:30.220
+helpful. And again, we're not looking for, I know you went to school and stuff, but I want to advance
+
+01:23:30.220 --> 01:23:35.980
+the discussion exactly I can. And, and, and, and you and Mark are, are people that I see that think
+
+01:23:36.620 --> 01:23:43.580
+logically and seem to be in search in a good faith search for the truth. Um, even if you get things
+
+01:23:43.580 --> 01:23:48.780
+wrong once in a while, I think your methods are sound and that's, that's what matters to me. So,
+
+01:23:48.780 --> 01:23:54.300
+yeah, sure. Uh, it's fantastic. Mark, do you have any closing remarks? I think it's a sharp spot to
+
+01:23:55.180 --> 01:24:02.300
+to, uh, I thought this was rewarding, fantastic, enlightening. Um, yeah, I'm a, I'm a big fan of yours,
+
+01:24:02.300 --> 01:24:07.340
+by the way, Mark, I meant to say that earlier. I haven't watched enough of your stuff yet to, to,
+
+01:24:08.300 --> 01:24:15.900
+uh, to, to, to even, I've watched maybe 2% of it and it's been great. So, yeah.
+
+01:24:16.700 --> 01:24:19.180
+Well, I heard it'll help improve your night's sleep as well.
+
+01:24:21.100 --> 01:24:26.380
+All right. So it's dual, it's multi, uh, it has value on multiple fronts, but I'm looking forward
+
+01:24:26.380 --> 01:24:32.380
+to more, more discussions and, um, uh, I mean, you provided wealth of knowledge before regular
+
+01:24:32.460 --> 01:24:38.700
+guy. Um, but, uh, this is still, uh, the early days, I believe. So thank you. And I'm sure the audience
+
+01:24:38.700 --> 01:24:44.780
+has enjoyed this as well. Sure. All right. Looking forward to the next time, sir. All right. Thank
+
+01:24:44.780 --> 01:24:52.460
+you very much. Okay. Take care. Mark, thank you very much for joining me. I'm sorry that I blew
+
+01:24:52.460 --> 01:24:58.300
+the three o'clock star time. That was a little bit, uh, family ball dropping there. I apologize for
+
+01:24:58.300 --> 01:25:03.580
+that. That's okay. That's okay. That's, uh, will you be doing a show this evening?
+
+01:25:03.580 --> 01:25:10.300
+You're eight o'clock Sunday night. Uh, yes, I'd like to. Okay. Um, otherwise I won't be able to fall
+
+01:25:10.300 --> 01:25:19.020
+asleep. Um, you can watch the replay and I hope you get every, each night of the week. Um,
+
+01:25:19.020 --> 01:25:25.820
+boy, I'd say what I used to have hours to dedicate each day, but it's very difficult.
+
+01:25:25.820 --> 01:25:30.300
+I wanted to ask you one more thing. I realized I haven't done this yet. I had it on my schedule
+
+01:25:30.300 --> 01:25:39.580
+already. Is there any way that I can book you for Tuesday night? Um, of course, after eight,
+
+01:25:39.580 --> 01:25:44.220
+preferably after eight. Okay. Perfect. We'll call it after eight. That's great. I'm glad I got
+
+01:25:44.220 --> 01:25:50.460
+to ask you that. Anything in particular to prepare for? Um, I'll send you an email about it. I've
+
+01:25:50.460 --> 01:25:56.460
+got a little tiny plan. Um, okay. Yeah. Okay. Sounds excellent. Thank you very much for joining
+
+01:25:56.460 --> 01:26:00.380
+me, Mark. I appreciate it. I'm so happy I finally got to introduce you to regular guy. I know you
+
+01:26:00.380 --> 01:26:07.340
+know his real name, but it's really nice to finally make it official. Um, and, uh, I look forward to
+
+01:26:07.340 --> 01:26:12.620
+talking to you on Tuesday. Please stay in touch. We'll do keep up the great work. I appreciate it.
+
+01:26:12.620 --> 01:26:20.460
+Bye. Bye, Mark. All right, guys. Um, thanks very much for adding me to your afternoon.
+
+01:26:21.260 --> 01:26:25.580
+Um, this has been Giga Home Biological, a high resistance low noise information stream brought
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+01:26:25.580 --> 01:26:32.860
+to you by a biologist. My guess was the regular guy and Mark Koolack of Usatonic Live. Um, you can
+
+01:26:32.860 --> 01:26:41.180
+find Mark Koolack on YouTube and you can also find him, um, at usatonicits.com.
+
+01:26:42.060 --> 01:26:48.220
+Uh, I can't stress enough how his archive is probably the best archive out there when it comes
+
+01:26:48.220 --> 01:26:57.980
+to what's going on and how things are happening. Um, this has been another Scooby-Doo presentation,
+
+01:26:58.060 --> 01:27:05.580
+like Giga Home Biological, but actually not because we're now looking at finally getting the guts
+
+01:27:05.580 --> 01:27:11.900
+to talk about the legal aspects of this. And now I think we have an additional sort of
+
+01:27:12.540 --> 01:27:18.620
+wood on the fire now with regard to the antibody patent paradox. I think Mark and I are both
+
+01:27:18.620 --> 01:27:26.460
+really interested in opening the lid on that thing and looking inside. Um, and I think, uh, now
+
+01:27:27.020 --> 01:27:32.940
+we're kind of ready to do it. So look forward to the coming weeks. Mark and I are going to continue
+
+01:27:32.940 --> 01:27:39.180
+to challenge each other to stream more often and with better content. And I'm going to keep challenging
+
+01:27:39.180 --> 01:27:47.020
+myself to, uh, show up every day as well. So keep the pressure on, steady pressure is what's working.
+
+01:27:47.020 --> 01:27:51.660
+Thank you very much for joining me. Make sure you share the stream more than anything else.
+
+01:27:51.660 --> 01:27:58.460
+Please share it, tweet it, Facebook and whatever. Um, that's how this works. And please support Mark
+
+01:27:58.460 --> 01:28:01.100
+if you can. Thanks very much for joining me.
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+but I'm not sure if that's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if it's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if that's how I'm not sure if it's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if that's what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure if that
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+Oh, I also forgot to change this, too, darn it.
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+And all the time it was Wiggles who made that black knight come to life.
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+And there was no legend.
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+Positively not. Wiggles just used the story to cover up my mysterious disappearance.
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+Somehow he managed to get into the armor down at the train station.
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+And like on the way to the museum, he made you disappear.
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+Zoints, he's alive!
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+Scooby-oo!
+
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+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
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+This is Gigo on Biological, High Resistance, Low Noise Information Brief, brought to you
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+by biologists at the 18th of September, 2023.
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+And things are getting fun.
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+We're still trying to break through this illusion.
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+We're still trying to fix the problem that we're not arguing within the right spectrum of reality.
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+Arguing about biology that never happened, about causes that don't exist.
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+And about methodologies that are unproven.
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+And that's really where we are here at Gigo on Biological.
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+It is a cool evening in Pittsburgh.
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+A very cool brisk evening, but very, it's my kind of weather.
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+It's not that I don't enjoy the summer, don't get me wrong, I definitely enjoy the summer.
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+As a tall, lanky streak of skinny man, the hot summer sun goes right through me and I love it.
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+But yeah, it's this weather where I can wear a thick hoodie and pants and shoes and stuff and not be all sweaty all the time.
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+I kind of like that too.
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+Thanks very much for joining me on this evening or morning or afternoon or night, depending on where you are.
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+Not taking the debate on not taking the bait on TV and not taking the bait on social media.
+
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+Congratulations.
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+It is very difficult because these people have tried so hard to change our minds about things.
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+And that's unfortunate, but that is really where we are.
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+I probably could make myself just a little bit bigger.
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+And that's really how they got us to get to the stage where we could think so poorly about our own biology and our own standing in the world.
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+That these kinds of bad things could be allowed to happen.
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+I don't really like the way that looks, but maybe that's okay.
+
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+It's quite a scary place where we are right now because there doesn't seem to be any real energy you want to be spent on trying to retrospectively think about what happened in 2020 and 2021 that got us to 2023.
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+05:06.000 --> 05:17.000
+And I get worried sometimes that there are people out there who are so interested in the next thing coming and the so interested in the next thing coming and so interested in the next thing coming.
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+That they're this kind of hyper attention shifting is actually something that is used against us.
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+And we've got to be very careful that we are not encouraged to rush into the future.
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+Eyes wide shut screaming and yelling, which is basically what we were encouraged to do at the beginning of the pandemic.
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+Now you might look back on and think, no, that's not really true, but you know, telling people that we had to shut society down globally for 15 days or 30 days.
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+That's pretty much as drastic as it's ever been ever in the history of modern men.
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+Now there's been wars and all those other things where, of course, massive changes in human behavior have resulted in massive casualties.
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+But with a sort of, let's say, well, a motivation based more on things that would be wars would be based on, you know, like, I don't know, people steal and people's girlfriends or lots of money or encroaching on territory.
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+And not a biological boogie man that's almost impossible, the visualize, quantify, purify, or study in a laboratory.
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+And so that's what I think becomes so shocking about this is that people have so willingly accepted all the tenants of the biology that has allowed us to ventilate people for a year that probably lots of them probably shouldn't have been.
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+And lots of them probably shouldn't have been ventilated.
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+The use of remdesivir on anybody for anything has never really been justified with any medical literature at all. I mean, let's just, let's just call a spade a spade here.
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+The proxy chloroquine, Ivermectin, femotidine, any of these other drugs have at least a track record of not killing people en masse, not damaging people en masse because they've tested it on lots of people and lots of people had no damage at all.
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+Remdesivir basically has a red thread through its use, and that is that if you were to give remdesivir to a healthy person, they wouldn't be healthy anymore.
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+Let's just be very clear about this. This is not something you can give to a healthy person and have them go, yeah, I don't notice anything at all.
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+When you give an aspirin to a person who doesn't have a lot of inflammation, it's not a lot of effects.
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+And so we're not talking about apples and oranges when we talk about the things that we talk about on television, when we talk about the things that we talk about in social media, because we're not adequately assigning the gravity to the right places, the right causes.
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+And we have assigned most of the gravity to this amorphous biological phenomenon called the virus, and we are, through any means necessary, forced to ignore this list over here, which is a list of harms that essentially, if we don't account for it, becomes part of the tally
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+accounted for by the biological phenomena, the mythology.
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+And that's again where you can take the average shark fin and make it into a megalodon if you don't adequately attribute sailboat sales to sailboats, but you start to attribute anything with the shape of a shark fin to a shark.
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+And so with the PCR test, we have basically roped in anything with the shape of a shark fin and called it a shark.
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+And so we have big sharks where people had like multiple organ failure and COVID ravaged their bodies.
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+And we have people who got barely sick at all and had no respiratory disease, but died of a heart attack and that's also COVID.
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+And then lots and lots of people with respiratory symptoms and no positive test, respiratory symptoms and a positive test and no discernible difference between them except that diagnostic test and people jumping to huge biological conclusions based on that one
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+observation.
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+And so it's really frustrating.
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+It is really a frustrating place to be in because people are so convinced, they're so convinced that they're right.
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+And that may be how people will characterize us as well, but it would be a mischaracterization, because we aren't trying to cordon off a very small possibility space and put a flag in a way that we can see.
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+And put a flag in it and claim it for giggle and biological.
+
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+What we're trying to do is illustrate the fact that almost everyone else is very hyper focused on a little pinpointed aspect of this and trying to sell you a little pinpointed aspect of this, this angle.
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+And it is an angle wherein there is a possibility that a single RNA sequence can be so diabolically nasty that it can be so contagious, that it can be so infectious, that it can be so virulent
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+that the entire planet should fear it.
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+And that story is a lie if any of the chemistry that we understand about DNA and RNA is true, it's a lie, they have to know this.
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+So the only way to achieve the illusion of an RNA that's so dangerous and so infectious and so virulent and so hyper-infective that the whole world should fear it would be to make lots of pure copies of it and put it in lots of places and let people draw that conclusion themselves.
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+Even if there's no evidence for a particularly dangerous disease, just evidence of a particularly ubiquitous sequence, or even worse, a ubiquitous set of PCR amplicons that happen to show up or happen to be detectable.
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+So we've got to reel it in, we've got to back the truck up and we've got to realize that we may have been set up from the very beginning with a very controlled narrative space in which many, many actors have been introduced as people representing the yin and the yang within this debate space.
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+And it's little people like Tim Poole and Sam Seder, it's bigger people like, and they're not even that big, but the Weinstein's and the people under Joe Rogan, you know, I don't really know all their names, but I can see them in the pictures, you know, Shapiro, all of them that have like a million or two million followers.
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+You've got all these niche sort of injection points, whereas long as those sheepdogs or whatever you want to call them magnets are there, then all of the fragments underneath, all of the shards underneath will kind of organize around those major magnetic fields.
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+And some of those magnetic fields are based on their appearance and their fitness or their attractiveness like, or their, their, their beautiful set or whatever they are, but they all have this very well produced thing that I'm trying to replicate here in my garage with the same idea
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+that you want to be able to sort of be as close to the people that are watching you as possible or project that idea so that you've come off as authentic as possible so that you collect the most viewers so that they listen to you the most.
+
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+And now they've known this for very, very long time.
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+And for all of us who are, you know, probably behind the times in the sense of, you know, we're not really engaged in the Internet like a lot of people are like a lot of younger people are, and we certainly haven't been engaged in it as long as them.
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+This whole giggle thing for me is the, is my foray into the Internet at what was I 49 or 50 when this started, I guess 49.
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+And so it's not some kind of, you know, thing that I've, I'm not that guy in the YouTube Mr. Beast who like started making videos when he was 14 just because he wanted to make videos.
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+And there are people like that. For example, I did a show the other day about Z-Dog MD who we go back six or eight years and the guy was already making music videos highly produced.
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+Like I really did want to be on the Internet really did want to be a media star, a thing, you know, and now he's got a very highly produced, highly, you know, algorithmically elevated YouTube thing going where I'm sure he's doing other things on the side as well.
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+And good forum, right? I mean, everybody's got to make their living, but what we are suggesting at Giggle Home Biological is that they've known this and they've found these people and they've talked to them and some of them didn't need any convincing at all.
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+Heck, think about it, guys. If they had come to me in 2019 when I was still struggling at the University of Pittsburgh and said, Hey, you've got this bike channel going.
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+This is pretty cool. Maybe you can do a pro vaccine channel for us because there's going to be an outbreak and this is a national security thing and we'll buy you some cameras.
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+We'll make sure that your channel rises and you can be a part of a movement that makes sure that America doesn't doesn't fall apart from this.
+
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+What the hell would I have said?
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+Of course, I would have said yes to the people in suits and I would have been happy to do it.
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+And maybe with regular feeding of information, it would have taken me forever or never to figure out that it was all a lie.
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+So I think I'm not suggesting that any of these people are necessarily bad.
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+But I am suggesting that some of them have to be because at some moment, you had to figure it out.
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+At some moment, some of them met me.
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+And so at some moment, they figured out that somebody doesn't think it's right.
+
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+I was never knew what was going on, but I knew these people that were certain were wrong and I couldn't understand how so many people were certain.
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+And it was because of this, because the spectrum of debate has been controlled so that we get the feeling that we are struggling in this space.
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+And in that struggle, we have figured out the mystery.
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+We have unmasked the monster. We have solved the Scooby-Doo.
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+And I think a lot of the people at the bottom of this screen have been doing it their whole lives.
+
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+I think a lot of the people at the bottom of the screen are aware that something is being exaggerated or overextended or the fidelity of the story is being oversimplified for national security reasons.
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+I mean, most of these people that watch TV are too dumb to understand anyway, so we've got to have a message for them and a message for internal.
+
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+And that's how they tell themselves that what these emails mean.
+
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+But none of them are probably aware that the email and the leaks and that whole thing was actually part of this bigger ploy, this bigger probably military operation.
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+I don't know, some operation to make people think that a lab leak was possible and then now a lab leak happened.
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+And the people that have risen inside of the narrative, I believe, at some moment, we have to think very carefully about how it happened and why it would have happened that way or not that way.
+
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+And 2020 documented on the Internet and videos and blogs and sub stacks and 2021, the first half of it before the legendary podcast where Steve Kirsch and Robert Malone came out on the dark horse.
+
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+Those six months are the most important months for us to document and mine for behavior.
+
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+Because there's no reason that anyone could not have been where I was in 2020, which was natural immunity, previous exposure to any other viruses that use RNA and spike proteins.
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+And the idea that transfection wasn't going to work because that's just a crazy idea.
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+And I was actually too chicken to say that it might work for old people because they may be in trouble.
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+And so maybe it's worthwhile giving it to them. I still wasn't there yet.
+
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+I still didn't see that, but that rationale allows the security state to give your grandfather or grandmother anything that they want to under the pretense that old people are vulnerable.
+
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+But I was still trying to talk myself out of the fear tree in 2020 like everybody was because there were people who ran us up the fear tree.
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+And that fear tree was this worst case scenario right that March was just the tip of the iceberg and before you knew it, everybody was going to know somebody who dropped dead in the street from COVID and had to call the police.
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+They lied to us about the pandemic potential in nature and accessible and laboratories in order to invert our human rights to to a permission system.
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+And I don't think very many people are really fighting for us, but they're fighting for position in this next system.
+
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+And many of them through their experience and connections probably know that there's very, very little chance for us to turn this cruise ship around.
+
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+But there are a few people I believe are still fighting for the possibility that we could slow the ship down first and then see if we can do something after that.
+
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+So let's see what we're doing here tonight.
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+So that's what this is all about. That's what's controlling this thing. They told us this thing happened. And, well, I don't know why I didn't mean to go through that fast. They told us this thing happened in 2020.
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+And ever since they've been committed to this basic set of lies, I think, which is that a novel virus has spread from a point in Wuhan and went all around the world.
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+Might have been a lab leak. And that's why we had to close down.
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+That's why the borders of these countries had to be closed. That's why schools had to be closed. That's why your kid loves iPads now.
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+And we had to use something and MRNA actually worked really well, except there was a lot of rushing. The LNP's weren't tested. There was an adequate quality control. The list goes on.
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+And so there's always a chance to do it better. You'll see tonight, tonight that they are going to try and do it better.
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+And then finally, because it was a gain of function virus that we covered up, that we were likely involved in, it could definitely happen again.
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+If we do don't do something drastic, like put everybody on a digital ID.
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+Now it is to realize that transfection is not immunization, that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances to augment the immune system is not really a great idea.
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+It's not a proven methodology. It's something that is one of the least investigated forms of therapeutic in modern western medicine, whether anybody likes to hear it or not.
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+And I think it sticks my neck out in a direction that it should be sticking out simply because lots of other people have had their necks stuck out in this direction for many years while I still had my head buried in the books and in the microscope.
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+And so I'm ready to pick this mantle up because I think it is a valid one.
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+There may be ways of augmenting the immune system, but the formulations that have been used up until this point are really ridiculous.
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+And the fact of the matter is they have not been tested.
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+And there's lots of biology, if you think about it, that do not support the intramuscular injection of combination of chemicals and adjuvants and antigens to augment the immune system.
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+You might get away with it, but it's not a very good way to do it, and it's certainly not a good way to avoid all kinds of other possibilities, which are most certainly possibilities.
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+Because we have literally thousands and thousands of examples of this.
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+So I just wanted to call attention first to a couple things that are on my radar so that you know that I hate to use that term because I think there's a lot of internet people right now that are doing news shows where they say, let's check my radar or something like that.
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+Somebody sent me this blog, the second smartest guy in the world.
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+And I stopped reading after the article cited this right here, which is NEPA virus vector sequences and COVID-19 patients sample sequined by the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
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+That title immediately rang a bell in my head.
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+That title belongs to NEPA virus vector sequences paper by Stephen Quay and Yuri Dagan.
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+Stephen Quay may be a reasonably good guy. He's a businessman and a scientist.
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+This, this fellow here, he may, whoops, sorry, this fellow here, he may be a good guy, Dave, Dave, or I don't know how to say those names.
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+Adrian may be a good guy, Yuri may be a good guy, just trying to find a way to make people live longer.
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+But I have my doubts. And more importantly, I have my doubts about NEPA virus and it's spreading without just being cloned and sprayed.
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+And so this paper is actually talking about infectious clones. You can read this paper. It's not a, it's not a paper that I'm saying you have to.
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+It's not a must read. But if you, if you want to know what I'm talking about in the sense of what I'm referencing, you can take a look at this paper.
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+They're looking at sequences and they, they say that they're finding evidence of a, of a NEPA virus infectious clone that is listed in the, in the, in the virology database or whatever.
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+So it's, it's, it's great. Those guys are, are fantastic.
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+This, this article, though, also cites the fact that we're in India with it. It also cites the fact that Bill Gates has talked about.
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+Oh, sorry, it's right there. It's talked about that there's going to be a next virus. And so there's, he makes the argument that maybe NEPA virus is going to be the next virus.
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+I think Twiv thinks it's going to be the Lhasa virus. And so that's why I thought we would look at Twiv. Oh yeah. And I wanted to show this.
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+Robert Malone did a sub stack. This is September 18. I guess that's today. You know, he puts out like four articles a day. So it's like hard to tell what day each comes out in.
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+But in this article, he's talking about a cult leader.
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+And I'm not really sure who he's referring to. A lot of times he talks about things that you could easily see him as being. I don't think he's a cult leader per se.
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+But I kind of hypothesize that it would be better for his motivations if he became a sort of cult leader or a sort of, you know, default disambiguation wizard.
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+Is that what he called himself in that video?
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+I noticed in this article that that transition was rough that he says in cult over the past two years, I've come to realize how easily groups of people can be manipulated and controlled by those in power.
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+The process is used for such manipulation reflect the same process is used by coal leaders and the official trailer from the documentary describes why people join cults but it also offers insights into exactly how people can be manipulated.
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+I'm not going to play that trailer here.
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+I want you to read the next paragraph.
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+In 2021, I edited the Robert F Kennedy's book, the real Anthony Fauci. It was a huge undertaking.
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+I was proud of my contributions, but also horrified by what that book revealed as was Jill.
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+She posted a link to the book on her Facebook page, just to link mind you with a recommendation to read the book.
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+In-law of ours who lives in the DC area, someone we thought of as a personal friend immediately blocked Jill permanently.
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+The sin being that Jill being critical of Anthony Fauci by publicizing RFK's whoa, RFK carefully researched and footnoted book.
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+This branch of our family has literally not talked to Jill or I sense.
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+Literally has not talked to Jill and I sense.
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+You can also just say actually or you can just say this branch of our family has not talked to Jill or I sense.
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+The literally is completely incorrect there to the point where it annoys me because this is exactly how children use it all the time.
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+It's awful.
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+We are not invited to gatherings where they are in attendance.
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+We are permanently banned from the village.
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+Isn't that a Hillary Clinton takes a village to raise a child?
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+For the social sin of posting a link, that was critical of Anthony Fauci.
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+This is one example of cult-like behavior. I expect you are familiar with many others.
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+The reason why I buzzed there was because I edited Robert F. Kennedy's book is a very interesting statement to publish on sub-stack to millions of followers for potentially thousands of dollars a month.
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+Now, edited a book is a pretty big deal. If I edited Predator the movie, that means a certain thing.
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+It doesn't mean that I was given a storyboard and said what do you think or I was given a script and said what do you think or said what do you think about this person playing that character?
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+Hey, can you give me some insight into the kind of biological technology that an alien might have in this movie and I need some ideas for the script, the movie is called Predator.
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+So then if I turned around and said, yeah, I edited that movie, it would be like, well, no, you didn't.
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+You gave all the ideas or you gave some feedback on the camouflage or the shape of the mouth.
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+So when you say I edited Robert F. Kennedy's book, you're kind of saying you sat in a certain chair that as far as I can tell Robert Malone didn't sit in.
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+Now, I'm not accusing him of anything. I'm not saying anything. I don't. I'm just throwing out there that it's an interesting sentence.
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+It's an interesting statement. Just walk in the line because he probably was consulted. Maybe he had an early copy.
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+I don't know exactly the story because it's not my job there. So I'm not going to call anybody and ask, but I put all my chips on the fact that he didn't edit the book because I know from working on the Wuhan book, what that means and who sits in those chairs.
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+And I know, I just know. And so it's not an inaccuracy that I'm very happy about because then he goes on to, you know, make it seem like, you know, in addition to all the other sacrifices he's made, you know,
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+like hours that he could have been with his emus or hours where he could have been with his baby horses. He's been, you know, fighting for our freedom or on our behalf.
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+He's also, you know, got his neck out on the line for the real Anthony Fauci book and even lost people in his family because they talked about the book.
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+So he lost people in his family because he talked about the book, but not because of the, of the mRNA or because of coming out for the shot.
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+And so it's a strange thing, like which, which part of your dissident, you know, lifestyle of the intro most interesting man in the world is the one that cost you your friends. Was it really the Anthony Fauci book and a post on Facebook.
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+And then what, and then you lost all your family. So then you thought, well, heck, I'll, I'll just speak out more or what. I don't know. It's weird to me.
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+I just, you know, I maybe I'm obsessing about him, but there's something, there's just something there.
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+Oh, sorry about that.
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+So let's do this. I think you're really going to enjoy this. I really do.
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+The reason why you're going to enjoy it is because they talk about a lot of stuff that we can follow along with the paper, maybe, and you're going to see there's a couple huge biological concepts that come up in the first paper
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+that are just spectacular. And then how all five of them are four of them. I don't know if there's four or five today.
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+All four or five of them are kind of there. They kind of get it.
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+But I'll take you all the way over the finish line to show you why these, these are these concepts and therefore biological concepts revelations they could be are completely missed.
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+So, how in depth they could go, but they just don't go because the idea is to bamboozle. The idea is not to inform.
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+And so let's just watch and see what, what kind of, you know, fumbles I can pick up and run in for touchdowns repeatedly as they talk about these two papers.
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+This week in virology, the podcast about viruses, the kind that made it all sick.
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+From Microbe TV, this is Twiv, this week in virology, episode 1045 recorded on September 15, 2023.
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+I'm Vincent Drackeniello and you're listening to the podcast all about viruses.
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+Joining me today from Austin, Texas, Rich Condit.
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+Hi everybody.
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+I'm just booting up the weather here. Yes, Austin, Texas, get this 84 degrees, man.
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+That's like 20 degrees less than when I last spoke to you. And there's been rain the past couple of days.
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+And so we're all really happy about that. It's kind of, I guess it's clearing up now.
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+Oh, it's some sunny ish, but I think we're out of the worst of it.
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+That's gotten much cooler here. I can't find the temper. I'll let Breanne do it also joining us from Madison, New Jersey, Breanne Barker.
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+Hi, it's great to be here. And here it is 72 Fahrenheit and beautifully sunny.
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+We've had a lovely last couple of days.
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+From Western Massachusetts, Alan Dove.
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+Good to be here. It is 67 Fahrenheit, 19C overcast.
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+And we have somewhere far out off the Cape, somewhere to our east is some remnants of tropical storm Lee,
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+which is supposed to bring storm surge to the Cape and islands.
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+And we're getting no rain out of it, which is a nice relief because we have been deluged with rain for the past couple of weeks.
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+And from Montreal, Canada, Angela Mingarelli.
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+Hey everyone. So for the first time, maybe the first time, it's not the coldest in Montreal.
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+So it's 70 Fahrenheit and 21.
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+So the first paper, they're going to look at a paper where Moderna makes an RNA virus.
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+Sorry, an RNA mRNA vaccine for loss of virus.
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+And they look at it in guinea pigs.
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+And it's extraordinary what they find because what they find is that neutralizing antibodies don't matter.
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+And this twib will kind of stumble through that revelation and mention some other mechanisms in immunology that they don't think about from the perspective of, let's say, coronavirus infection or any other infection and what that might mean from the perspective of how the immune system works.
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+All right, we have a couple of announcements. First of all, if you like our work, we'd love your support.
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+I want to wish Fiona a happy 40th birthday.
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+Happy birthday, Fiona. Happy birthday, Fiona.
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+Well, it's September 7th.
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+And I hope you had a good time. Fiona is a PhD in psychology and a massive Twiv fan.
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+Cool.
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+Her husband anniversary of your 39th birthday is always a good time.
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+I think you could probably do a PhD in psychology shrinking the Twiv hosts.
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+Oh boy.
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+Indeed.
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+You don't want to go into our heads.
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+I don't think it's a good thing.
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+No, no.
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+Her husband who wrote in saying, would you please do this said she probably should be a virologist.
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+She loves Twiv.
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+So thanks for listening.
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+Keep it up, Fiona.
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+Many more.
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+Don't forget there is a second position in Amy Rosenfeld's lab at the FDA.
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+This is a research assistant to work on enteroviruses, making animal models, understanding the consequence of cross-reactive antibody responses, doing cell culture, all BSL to work.
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+We'll have a link in the show notes and you can find an email to find out more.
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+And sadly, I want to tell everyone that Robert Lam, or Bob Lam as we used to call him, passed away on September 2nd.
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+He was a very important influenza virologist who was on Twiv a couple of times and who was always very, very good science, but also very enjoyable person.
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+So we will miss him.
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+Sorry to lose him so early.
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+Yeah.
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+He was a post-doc with Purnell Schopen at Rockefeller University, which is where I first met him.
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+He was on my qualifying exam committee.
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+He had a wonderful British accent and he was quick and funny and a lot of fun.
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+I always sought him out at meetings.
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+It was fun to talk to him.
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+And then for most of his career, he was at Northwestern University.
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+So sorry to see you go, Bob.
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+Nice picture of Bob here on the obituary.
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+I hope you find some good plaque assays wherever he goes.
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+Black assay heaven.
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+Black assay heaven.
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+Yeah, that's a good one.
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+All right.
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+We have two very cool papers for you today.
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+The first, our snippet, is in Nature Communications, a lassivirus mRNA vaccine confers protection, but does not require neutralizing antibody in a guinea pig model of infection.
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+And that's why I want you to know about this paper.
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+You don't need antibody, apparently.
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+We'll go through it, but very I want you to know about this paper.
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+You don't need antibody, apparently.
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+We'll go through it, but very interesting.
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+Well, you don't need neutralizing antibody.
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+Yes, that's a title, neutralizing antibody.
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+And so this is two first authors, Adam Rankin, Nico Lloyd, and two last authors, Andrea Carphy, and Alexander Bookraev, who I noticed on LinkedIn.
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+He just was talking about this paper and I said, we're doing it on Twiv right now.
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+This is from University of Texas, Galveston, Harvard, Scripps, La Jolla Institute for Immunology, and the Academic Medical Center in the Netherlands and Moderna.
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+So there are a couple of vaccines in development for lassivirus.
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+This is one of them, but the neutralizing antibody angle is very interesting.
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+Lassivirus is the virus that got me interested in virology.
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+Honestly, it really is.
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+I read this book, Fever, after I graduated from college, and I said, oh, my gosh, viruses can go from animals to humans.
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+And I said, that's a cool thing.
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+I'm trying to rearrange my monitor here.
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+That's why I'm looking funny.
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+There we go.
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+That's a cool thing.
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+And this book, John Fuller, which is very cool.
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+You should read it.
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+I looked into getting into virology.
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+So lassivirus, it's an envelope RNA virus, negative stranded.
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+It causes up between 100 and 300,000 cases every year, primarily in Africa, first found in lassa, Nigeria, about 5,000 deaths.
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+And this is an important, this is a medical need for sure, 5,000 deaths, 300,000 cases.
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+They often go to other countries.
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+And that's 5,000 deaths a year, right?
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+Not in general, that's a year.
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+Exactly.
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+That we know about, that we know that we're diagnosed with this virus.
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+No, I mean, just for the listeners, because it's a year.
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+That's 5,000 a year.
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+Yes, not since.
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+Not since the beginning of the month.
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+A year.
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+And this is, this is a virus that is, it is from animals, it comes from rodents into humans through rodent waste.
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+So it's in conditions where people are around peri-domestic rodents and there are a couple of species that are especially good at carrying it.
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+And they get the, they basically inhale the fumes and get the virus.
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+I was impressed here.
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+It mentioned something about how long.
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+So again, did you hear what he said?
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+Maybe you should hear that again.
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+Some of that.
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+A virus that is, it is from animals, it comes from rodents into humans through rodent waste.
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+So it's in conditions where people are around peri-domestic rodents and there are a couple of species that are especially good at carrying it.
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+And they get the, they basically inhale the fumes.
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+So if you're living around rats and you have enough of a rat infestation that you have the dust from their excrement,
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+you can get this virus or this pathogen.
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+So again, here we are again talking about a scenario where just imagine now if at the same time people started getting houses and stopped being homeless and stopped living on the street and started eating better and started eating separately from where they,
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+where they go number one and two,
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+then diseases plummet.
+
+42:20.000 --> 42:23.000
+And so yeah, 5,000 people die every year from this.
+
+42:23.000 --> 42:28.000
+But do we need to vaccinate those people or should we just give them sanitary places to live?
+
+42:31.000 --> 42:32.000
+And let me turn that around again.
+
+42:32.000 --> 42:35.000
+Do we need to vaccinate those people or should we give them?
+
+42:36.000 --> 42:38.000
+See, that's not what they want.
+
+42:38.000 --> 42:42.000
+They don't want to give those places healthy, people healthy places to live.
+
+42:42.000 --> 42:45.000
+They don't want to improve their living conditions.
+
+42:45.000 --> 42:52.000
+They want to test their, their, their augmentation of the immune system.
+
+42:53.000 --> 42:58.000
+And this is what this is, for me, this has become obvious that this whole,
+
+43:00.000 --> 43:02.000
+this is, this is something else.
+
+43:02.000 --> 43:05.000
+They're doing something else here other than virology.
+
+43:06.000 --> 43:13.000
+This is, this is a mad rush to try and use this opening to,
+
+43:14.000 --> 43:26.000
+to blow open as many possibilities as possible in terms of methodology and new application of gene technology to every aspect of public health.
+
+43:27.000 --> 43:32.000
+And so any new model they can find where RNA works the better,
+
+43:32.000 --> 43:44.000
+because then they're going to frame it in this false frame of, well, we know that RNA works really well in people because we gave billions of doses and only a few thousand people were injured.
+
+43:45.000 --> 43:47.000
+Nobody died. I mean, come on.
+
+43:48.000 --> 43:51.000
+That's what everybody on this screen would likely say.
+
+43:52.000 --> 43:56.000
+We probably don't know if anybody really has died from the vaccine.
+
+43:56.000 --> 44:03.000
+I guess a few people had some clots, but it's an insignificant number against the billions of people who didn't.
+
+44:06.000 --> 44:08.000
+And so be aware that that's where we are now.
+
+44:08.000 --> 44:17.000
+Now we're talking about a nature paper where we're immunizing guinea pigs against a virus that comes from very bad unsanitary conditions that include rats.
+
+44:17.000 --> 44:26.000
+And we're talking about using an mRNA vaccine to protect from that.
+
+44:27.000 --> 44:37.000
+And now we're just going to stumble through the immunology and they're going to admit that, well, you know, tertiary target or quaternary targeted antibodies are important.
+
+44:38.000 --> 44:42.000
+And not really explain what quaternary antibodies are.
+
+44:43.000 --> 44:45.000
+A perfect teaching moment. Here we go.
+
+44:46.000 --> 44:47.000
+Get the virus.
+
+44:47.000 --> 44:56.000
+I was impressed here. It mentioned something about how long some of the virus could be seen in post exposure, at least in human urine and semen.
+
+44:56.000 --> 45:01.000
+And I was like, whoa, there's a lot of potential reservoir for this beyond what I realized.
+
+45:01.000 --> 45:06.000
+So I've done a couple of last episodes with experts and they say most of the transmission is actually spillover from rodents.
+
+45:06.000 --> 45:09.000
+There's some human human, but not a lot. Most of it is a rodent spillover.
+
+45:09.000 --> 45:12.000
+You live in a house where there are rodents under the floor and that's how you get it, which is amazing.
+
+45:12.000 --> 45:17.000
+Is the geographical distribution constrained primarily by the distribution of the host?
+
+45:17.000 --> 45:19.000
+The rodent host, yeah. I suspect.
+
+45:19.000 --> 45:28.000
+And the other thing that I was unaware of, or if I knew and forgotten, is that it says that upwards of 80% of the cases are asymptomatic.
+
+45:28.000 --> 45:29.000
+Yeah.
+
+45:29.000 --> 45:30.000
+Yeah.
+
+45:30.000 --> 45:31.000
+Maybe underreported, right?
+
+45:31.000 --> 45:34.000
+Yeah. So they've got to figure that a hundred thousand to three hundred thousand human cases.
+
+45:34.000 --> 45:36.000
+That's known human cases.
+
+45:36.000 --> 45:40.000
+You know, probably a lot more people are infected because it turns out you can get this and not even know.
+
+45:40.000 --> 45:41.000
+Yeah.
+
+45:41.000 --> 45:44.000
+It's a virus you need to work with under BSL4 conditions.
+
+45:44.000 --> 45:45.000
+Yes.
+
+45:45.000 --> 45:46.000
+And it's the Galveston contribution here.
+
+45:46.000 --> 45:50.000
+And that's an important thing to remember going through this paper because as I was reading, I would occasionally say,
+
+45:50.000 --> 45:53.000
+oh, well, why didn't they? And then, oh, right. Yeah. They're in bubble suits. That's why they didn't.
+
+45:53.000 --> 45:56.000
+You can't. You can't just blast through your experiments like this.
+
+45:56.000 --> 45:57.000
+Yes. Very expensive.
+
+45:57.000 --> 45:59.000
+This is all done at the SL4.
+
+45:59.000 --> 46:00.000
+Yeah.
+
+46:00.000 --> 46:04.000
+And very time consuming is everything you do. You got to suit up and go in.
+
+46:04.000 --> 46:05.000
+Yeah.
+
+46:05.000 --> 46:10.000
+This is one of the viruses on the WHO blueprint for diseases that need accelerated research.
+
+46:10.000 --> 46:15.000
+And so this one is definitely one where we need a vaccine. There will be a vaccine at some point used, maybe multiple,
+
+46:15.000 --> 46:22.000
+but this is just one of them. And it's, of course, this mRNA vaccine is it was done because of the success with the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.
+
+46:22.000 --> 46:27.000
+And so they have taken the mRNA encoding the spike like a person.
+
+46:27.000 --> 46:30.000
+They have made two versions, one, a pre-fusion version.
+
+46:30.000 --> 46:31.000
+Told you.
+
+46:31.000 --> 46:33.000
+I told you he even said it.
+
+46:34.000 --> 46:35.000
+That's listening to it again.
+
+46:35.000 --> 46:40.000
+This one is definitely one where we need a vaccine. There will be a vaccine at some point used, maybe multiple, but this is just one of them.
+
+46:40.000 --> 46:46.000
+And it's, of course, this mRNA vaccine is it was done because of the success with the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.
+
+46:46.000 --> 46:51.000
+And so they have taken the mRNA encoding the spike like a protein of the virus.
+
+46:51.000 --> 46:55.000
+They have made two versions, one, a pre-fusion version, very much like the spike pre-fusion,
+
+46:55.000 --> 46:59.000
+the locket in a version that displays the relevant antigenic sites.
+
+46:59.000 --> 47:02.000
+And then they also use one without the pre-fusion locking to compare it.
+
+47:02.000 --> 47:09.000
+They put it in lipid nanoparticles and they deliver it to guinea pigs, which are the model for lassa disease.
+
+47:09.000 --> 47:10.000
+These are outbred animals.
+
+47:10.000 --> 47:14.000
+So remember that there's not a lot of immunological agents available and so forth.
+
+47:14.000 --> 47:19.000
+I'm assuming somebody's tried this in mice and it just doesn't work because it's...
+
+47:19.000 --> 47:20.000
+So when I...
+
+47:20.000 --> 47:21.000
+Good question.
+
+47:21.000 --> 47:23.000
+There are mouse species that are normally infected with this going around.
+
+47:23.000 --> 47:30.000
+So when I was at Rocky Mountain Labs, they were trying to establish a colony of mastomas natalantis, which is the natural reservoir.
+
+47:30.000 --> 47:31.000
+So that's not easy.
+
+47:31.000 --> 47:33.000
+You have to catch them and then you bring them and you get them to breed.
+
+47:33.000 --> 47:35.000
+And he said it's hard to breed them in captivity.
+
+47:35.000 --> 47:38.000
+So this was a couple of years ago, but I think that's the need.
+
+47:38.000 --> 47:39.000
+You know, musculous just doesn't work.
+
+47:39.000 --> 47:40.000
+Right.
+
+47:40.000 --> 47:45.000
+And I imagine there would be containment concerns with bringing another wild mouse into the country and breeding up a bunch of it
+
+47:45.000 --> 47:49.000
+when that mouse is endemic to many parts of Africa and is a reservoir for this.
+
+47:49.000 --> 47:50.000
+Definitely.
+
+47:50.000 --> 47:51.000
+Yeah, I mean, that would be a problem.
+
+47:51.000 --> 47:54.000
+And then if you wanted your model to have disease particularly...
+
+47:54.000 --> 47:55.000
+Seems like I was wrong.
+
+47:55.000 --> 47:59.000
+It looks like it's mice infestations that can do it.
+
+47:59.000 --> 48:05.000
+And unless you're going to ask them about going to the opera, you are not going to be able to have a lot of data on protection
+
+48:05.000 --> 48:06.000
+and your challenge model.
+
+48:06.000 --> 48:07.000
+Yeah.
+
+48:07.000 --> 48:13.000
+So we use guinea pigs and they are vaccinated intramuscularly with these lipid nanoparticles containing the spike mRNA,
+
+48:13.000 --> 48:15.000
+which has been pseudo urid-related.
+
+48:15.000 --> 48:17.000
+So it chemically modified.
+
+48:17.000 --> 48:20.000
+So it doesn't induce responses that would interfere with it.
+
+48:20.000 --> 48:23.000
+The controls are phosphate, buffered saline, infected guinea pigs.
+
+48:23.000 --> 48:26.000
+And then they look for first binding antibodies.
+
+48:26.000 --> 48:29.000
+So antibodies that will just bind the spike and they do find those.
+
+48:29.000 --> 48:32.000
+And in fact, both constructs induce binding antibodies.
+
+48:32.000 --> 48:34.000
+And then they look for neutralizing antibodies.
+
+48:34.000 --> 48:36.000
+So they do a neutralization assay.
+
+48:36.000 --> 48:38.000
+And some of the sera...
+
+48:38.000 --> 48:43.000
+Well, with the wild type mRNA, encoding the wild type spike without pre-fusion stabilization.
+
+48:43.000 --> 48:47.000
+None of the sera demonstrate neutralizing activity over the background found in the pre-immune serum.
+
+48:47.000 --> 48:49.000
+So basically no neutralization.
+
+48:49.000 --> 48:54.000
+And in the pre-fusion stabilized vaccinated group, two out of five animals have neutralizing activity.
+
+48:54.000 --> 48:56.000
+So two out of five animals.
+
+48:56.000 --> 48:59.000
+And even then it's not particularly impressively high.
+
+48:59.000 --> 49:00.000
+Yeah.
+
+49:00.000 --> 49:04.000
+And they say this variation from animal to animal is not surprising because they're outbred animals.
+
+49:04.000 --> 49:06.000
+And so they're genetically diverse.
+
+49:06.000 --> 49:08.000
+And that's assay neutralization.
+
+49:08.000 --> 49:12.000
+Maybe you said this, assay neutralization on virus.
+
+49:12.000 --> 49:13.000
+Virus.
+
+49:13.000 --> 49:14.000
+Yeah.
+
+49:14.000 --> 49:16.000
+And they have a plaque assay.
+
+49:16.000 --> 49:17.000
+Let's see.
+
+49:17.000 --> 49:18.000
+Let's go to the methods here.
+
+49:18.000 --> 49:19.000
+I didn't look closely enough for that.
+
+49:19.000 --> 49:22.000
+I'm going to do a thing which is plaque.
+
+49:22.000 --> 49:25.000
+Let's search for plaque and see if...
+
+49:25.000 --> 49:26.000
+That's what I was doing.
+
+49:26.000 --> 49:27.000
+That's what I was doing.
+
+49:27.000 --> 49:28.000
+Yeah.
+
+49:28.000 --> 49:29.000
+They did a plaque assay.
+
+49:29.000 --> 49:30.000
+Good for them.
+
+49:30.000 --> 49:31.000
+Yeah, good for them.
+
+49:31.000 --> 49:32.000
+So that's all BSL-4 work.
+
+49:32.000 --> 49:33.000
+Yeah.
+
+49:33.000 --> 49:35.000
+So the guinea pigs can be immunized outside the BSL-4.
+
+49:35.000 --> 49:40.000
+And then when you want to challenge them, which we haven't done yet, we bring them inside the BSL-4, obviously.
+
+49:40.000 --> 49:51.000
+So it's relevant to point out that one of the things that they point out is that the neutralizing antibodies that they know of that have been identified in the past are all to quaternary epitopes.
+
+49:52.000 --> 49:57.000
+Meaning they're conformational epitopes that are not apparent unless you have the whole trimer assembled.
+
+49:57.000 --> 49:58.000
+Correct.
+
+49:58.000 --> 50:00.000
+So that means that they're pretty complex.
+
+50:00.000 --> 50:03.000
+They're bridged like two subunits of a trimer, right?
+
+50:03.000 --> 50:04.000
+So maybe it's not...
+
+50:04.000 --> 50:12.000
+Although I expect with an mRNA vaccine that this protein will assemble in a membrane in a fashion that mimics its assembly on the virus.
+
+50:12.000 --> 50:20.000
+Maybe it's not quite like that or maybe something about the presentation fails to present the appropriate quaternary epitope or maybe there's something...
+
+50:20.000 --> 50:25.000
+Okay, so let's talk about that because that's the key revelation in this twist.
+
+50:25.000 --> 50:26.000
+Let me go get a chord.
+
+50:26.000 --> 50:52.000
+So we've talked about this before with regard to antibodies and what the epitope is or what an epitope is.
+
+50:53.000 --> 51:03.000
+And we've struggled, like everybody does, to explain what it is, but the best way to explain it in words is to say that it's an electrostatic shape.
+
+51:03.000 --> 51:06.000
+A three-dimensional electrostatic shape.
+
+51:06.000 --> 51:20.000
+You can think of it as a three-dimensional electrostatic surface like the shape that my hand makes, but then now with positives and negatives distributed across it so that if you want to match it,
+
+51:20.000 --> 51:29.000
+you kind of got to match it in a shape sort of way and also to a certain extent an electrostatic negative sort of way.
+
+51:29.000 --> 51:38.000
+So like a mirror image, some positives should be negative, that kind of thing so that your antibody will bind to it, recognize it.
+
+51:38.000 --> 51:41.000
+And that's the best way to understand this.
+
+51:41.000 --> 51:47.000
+Now, what these guys are describing is, let's listen again.
+
+51:48.000 --> 51:50.000
+A parent, unless you have the whole...
+
+51:50.000 --> 51:52.000
+Challenge them, which we haven't done yet.
+
+51:52.000 --> 51:55.000
+We bring them inside the BSL4, obviously.
+
+51:55.000 --> 52:11.000
+So it's relevant to point out that one of the things that they point out is that the neutralizing antibodies that they know of that have been identified in the past are all two quaternary epitopes, meaning they're conformational epitopes that are not a parent unless you have the whole trimer assembled.
+
+52:11.000 --> 52:12.000
+Correct.
+
+52:12.000 --> 52:14.000
+So that means that they're pretty complex.
+
+52:15.000 --> 52:17.000
+They're bridged like two subunits of a trimer, right?
+
+52:17.000 --> 52:18.000
+Yeah.
+
+52:18.000 --> 52:27.000
+So maybe it's not, although I expect with an mRNA vaccine that this protein will assemble in a membrane in a fashion that mimics its assembly on the virus.
+
+52:27.000 --> 52:36.000
+Maybe it's not quite like that, or maybe something about the presentation fails to present the appropriate quaternary epitope, or maybe there's something else about an infection that induces those antibodies.
+
+52:36.000 --> 52:38.000
+Do you have any thoughts about that, Rian?
+
+52:38.000 --> 52:48.000
+So now here's my best, you know, back of the envelope explanation, if I was at a dinner table with you or something like that, how I would explain this.
+
+52:48.000 --> 52:51.000
+Here's the protein.
+
+52:51.000 --> 52:53.000
+It's a cord, right?
+
+52:53.000 --> 53:02.000
+Because it's a chain of amino acids, and it's a chain of amino acids that was encoded by triplets of nucleic acids in the RNA.
+
+53:03.000 --> 53:10.000
+And so then the RNA goes through the ribosome machinery, a miracle happens, and then this protein is coming out.
+
+53:10.000 --> 53:20.000
+As it's coming out of the ribosome, it supposedly is folding up into the shape that it needs to be in when it goes into the membrane.
+
+53:21.000 --> 53:35.000
+And that tertiary shape here, quaternary structure, tertiary structure, I think this is called a tertiary structure, so I'm not sure if quaternary antibodies might be the right term.
+
+53:35.000 --> 53:37.000
+I don't know, I need to look it up.
+
+53:37.000 --> 53:43.000
+It's the first time I've heard it in here, but I know of the concept, and the concept is this.
+
+53:43.000 --> 54:00.000
+If you're going to make an antibody to a folded, functionally relevant shape, think of like pressing a piece of clay onto this pile of cord right here in the middle where it's all together here.
+
+54:00.000 --> 54:06.000
+And the shape that you get from it is the epitope.
+
+54:06.000 --> 54:10.000
+And so they are always talking about, well what epitope is it?
+
+54:10.000 --> 54:20.000
+Maybe it's this epitope, or maybe it's this epitope, or maybe it's this epitope, or it could be this epitope, maybe we should make it this epitope, or this epitope.
+
+54:20.000 --> 54:42.000
+And in reality, the folded protein produces three-dimensional epitopes that are sometimes almost incredibly unrelated to the sequence of the protein because the folded structure creates three-dimensional electrostatic shapes that the immune system recognizes
+
+54:42.000 --> 54:52.000
+as functional targets and builds immunity to them, that are not so easy to predict from the sequence of the protein.
+
+54:52.000 --> 55:07.000
+Certainly not so easy to predict if you take the sequence of the protein that's encoded in the virus and codon optimize it, and then pseudo uradate it so that it doesn't get eliminated by the cellular machinery too quickly.
+
+55:07.000 --> 55:15.000
+And so you're not sure if that tertiary structure is exactly what the virus sequence would have made, of course it's not.
+
+55:15.000 --> 55:28.000
+And so therefore your quaternary epitopes, the ones that actually matter, won't be adequately represented by your mRNA generated protein.
+
+55:28.000 --> 55:31.000
+Now isn't that curious?
+
+55:31.000 --> 55:43.000
+Now we're still going to have to figure out what happens in this paper because somehow or another they still seem to impart immunity on the guinea pigs and the ones that are vaccinated live and the ones that aren't vaccinated die.
+
+55:43.000 --> 55:48.000
+Or they sacrifice them because they're suffering or something like that, we'll hear it in a minute.
+
+55:49.000 --> 55:59.000
+So I don't have the whole story yet, but I do have this biological concept correct and it is something that you can put in your bookshelf and never let it go.
+
+55:59.000 --> 56:03.000
+That antibodies are not as simple as well, here's a protein.
+
+56:03.000 --> 56:18.000
+And so we look at different sequences and some of those sequences your immune system remembers, you know, like the receptor binding domain or the, or the G one G protein GP 120 loop.
+
+56:18.000 --> 56:27.000
+Because when the protein is folded and in confirmation, yes, there are epitopes that stick out.
+
+56:28.000 --> 56:34.000
+And so those epitopes stick out, but it's up to your immune system, what epitopes it chooses.
+
+56:34.000 --> 56:51.000
+And it can choose epitopes which describe three dimensional electrostatic spaces that are formed by the tertiary or quaternary, I don't know which word it is, I think it's tertiary, but by the three dimensional structure of the protein.
+
+56:52.000 --> 57:01.000
+And how that sequence is folded and what kinds of three dimensional electrostatic shapes are created there.
+
+57:01.000 --> 57:13.000
+And this is huge, because again, as we've talked about at the beginning of the pandemic, you know, antibodies are what you make immunity and that's how it works and so all you need are antibodies.
+
+57:14.000 --> 57:22.000
+And these made it real simple, you know, it's just an antibody and it just sticks to things and things that sticks to like the red ball or the green ball.
+
+57:22.000 --> 57:36.000
+And it's not that simple. It's so not that simple. And if you knew how simple it wasn't, then you wouldn't take their word that they know that they can put a bunch of chemicals inside of your muscle and augment that system.
+
+57:37.000 --> 57:41.000
+You wouldn't believe that sales pitch if you knew how complicated this was.
+
+57:41.000 --> 57:52.000
+And this is a great example of three and a half years in, we're finally talking about kind of close to how anybody's really work and what an epitope really is.
+
+57:52.000 --> 57:55.000
+Are you kidding me?
+
+57:55.000 --> 58:05.000
+I don't know enough about lots of viral particles to really say much about that to know if say there are other proteins that may assist in that quaternary structure, perhaps, or something like that.
+
+58:05.000 --> 58:08.000
+This is the only membrane protein in the virus. There's nothing else as far as we know.
+
+58:08.000 --> 58:12.000
+I suppose there could be there must. I assume there's a matrix protein of some sort. Yeah, there is.
+
+58:12.000 --> 58:15.000
+Play a role at least in organizing the like a protein on the surface.
+
+58:15.000 --> 58:22.000
+Yeah, I just don't know enough about that to really tell you, but I agree with everything that you're saying about what that quaternary epitope means.
+
+58:22.000 --> 58:28.000
+They do some experiments to map the epitopes recognized by these antibodies, but I'm going to skip those because I don't think they part of what I'm interested in here.
+
+58:28.000 --> 58:30.000
+If that's okay with everyone, does everyone.
+
+58:30.000 --> 58:31.000
+That is totally fine.
+
+58:31.000 --> 58:42.000
+Good. Now, this is very interesting. The next section in the paper, they say, despite excellent protection observed in each vaccinated animal, we decided to look at the mechanisms of protection, but they haven't presented.
+
+58:42.000 --> 58:44.000
+They haven't checked for protection yet.
+
+58:44.000 --> 58:48.000
+Why did they think it was a mistake or it's weird that they would present this before the protection experiment?
+
+58:49.000 --> 59:02.000
+Yeah, I think that's just an issue with drafting the paper that they phrased that poorly, because at this point in the paper, if you are following in sequence, and as we mentioned a number of times on Twiv, when you read a paper, the sequence in which the experiments are presented is seldom the sequence in which the experiments were done.
+
+59:02.000 --> 59:10.000
+So, you know, they obviously knew when they were writing the paper what the outcome was, but at that point, if you're reading it, it's like, I would have next gone to the protection.
+
+59:11.000 --> 59:14.000
+But the next one, so I'm going to go right now to the protection because I think it makes sense.
+
+59:14.000 --> 59:15.000
+Okay.
+
+59:15.000 --> 59:16.000
+Pre-style.
+
+59:16.000 --> 59:17.000
+56.
+
+59:17.000 --> 59:18.000
+Yeah, we can.
+
+59:18.000 --> 59:20.000
+You know, in the old days, you could cut up the paper and paste.
+
+59:20.000 --> 59:21.000
+We paste.
+
+59:21.000 --> 59:25.000
+Day 56 after immunization, they infect the animals.
+
+59:25.000 --> 59:29.000
+Interpreterately with 30,000 p.f.u. of a guinea pig adapted lassavirus.
+
+59:29.000 --> 59:30.000
+Hozaya strain.
+
+59:30.000 --> 59:31.000
+I like the name Hozaya.
+
+59:31.000 --> 59:32.000
+Yeah.
+
+59:32.000 --> 59:34.000
+And they record weight temperature disease scores every day.
+
+59:34.000 --> 59:35.000
+Oh, yeah.
+
+59:35.000 --> 59:36.000
+That's right.
+
+59:36.000 --> 59:38.000
+No lethargy ruffled for weight loss or others.
+
+59:39.000 --> 59:44.000
+The best that I could find, that's what I forgot to cut that out.
+
+59:44.000 --> 59:54.000
+So, in the methods, they say that the strain of the virus is Josiah.
+
+59:54.000 --> 59:55.000
+Where is it?
+
+59:55.000 --> 59:58.000
+He just mentioned it right now.
+
+59:58.000 --> 01:00:01.000
+And as far as I can tell, that's got to be a clone.
+
+01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:04.000
+Like, I don't know what else it is because...
+
+01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:06.000
+Sorry.
+
+01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:08.000
+Where did I miss it?
+
+01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:15.000
+Anybody at the C, immunostaining analysis and animal work?
+
+01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:17.000
+Where is it?
+
+01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:24.000
+Right there.
+
+01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:31.000
+Passage 7 of the LASV strain Josiah.
+
+01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:36.000
+Now, I don't know how else to interpret that.
+
+01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:41.000
+Passage 7 means that they're passionate seven times in cells.
+
+01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:44.000
+But what did they start with?
+
+01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:49.000
+They can't be starting with the same patient sample forever.
+
+01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.000
+Like, that's not how this works.
+
+01:00:52.000 --> 01:01:00.000
+So, my guess is, is that they generate this from a clone and then passage that clone seven
+
+01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:08.000
+times in cell culture to generate an infectious swarm.
+
+01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:14.000
+That's the only way that I can interpret any of these methodologies at this point because
+
+01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:17.000
+they all seem to go back to a recombinant clone,
+
+01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:23.000
+grow in a few passages in a cell culture, and then distribute it as a product.
+
+01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:30.000
+That's what I think they're talking about when they say passage 7, LASV strain Josiah.
+
+01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:37.000
+Signs until seven to nine days after a channel animal is interprepared to nearly with 30,000
+
+01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:40.000
+p.f.u. of a guinea pig adapted LASV virus.
+
+01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:42.000
+Josiah strain, I like the name Josiah.
+
+01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:43.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:46.000
+And they record weight, temperature, disease scores, everyday, control animals.
+
+01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:47.000
+That is, BBS.
+
+01:01:47.000 --> 01:01:50.000
+No lethargy, ruffled for weight loss or other signs until seven to nine days after a challenge,
+
+01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:52.000
+and then they became febrile.
+
+01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:53.000
+They began to lose weight.
+
+01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:58.000
+They got lethargic ruffled for orbital tightening their earth around the sun.
+
+01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:00.000
+When they're smaller and smaller, they're coming down into the atmosphere.
+
+01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:01.000
+That's part of like the grimace, right?
+
+01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:03.000
+So if they're in pain, then yeah, they'll for the listeners.
+
+01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:04.000
+Oh, yeah.
+
+01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:05.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:06.000
+It's a part of that.
+
+01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:07.000
+Cool, but thank you for the explanation.
+
+01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:08.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:11.000
+They became viremic by day nine, and they met the criteria for euthanasia.
+
+01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:13.000
+So they were euthanized on days 11 to 15.
+
+01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:17.000
+Vaccinated animals, both the wild type, like a protein mRNA and the pre-fusion stabilized,
+
+01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:18.000
+no outward signs of disease.
+
+01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:21.000
+They all survived challenge to day 28 when they were euthanized to take a look at the tissues.
+
+01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:27.000
+So none of these signs, no ruffled for, no orbital tightening, none of that.
+
+01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:32.000
+They had an increase in like a protein antibodies, a little increase in nuclear protein antibodies,
+
+01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:35.000
+and they said they never find virus in serum after challenge.
+
+01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:38.000
+Which is very interesting, but they say it must have been a little replication because
+
+01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:40.000
+there's antibodies to nuclear protein.
+
+01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:42.000
+But it's surprising that the clinical score is the exact same.
+
+01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:44.000
+Like there's no none of the animals that were vaccinated.
+
+01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:47.000
+Like there's no variation whatsoever, or even like you were saying, the viremia is under
+
+01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:48.000
+the limit of detection.
+
+01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:49.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:52.000
+It looks like the only thing that maybe changes a little bit is like they get a teensy bit
+
+01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:53.000
+of temperature.
+
+01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:56.000
+Which is interesting actually, the only, like the, it's more than you would just expect
+
+01:02:56.000 --> 01:03:01.000
+in the wild type GPC vaccine, like in the, sorry I'm looking at the figure, but definitely
+
+01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:07.000
+almost, not almost the same as the control, but similar to, yeah.
+
+01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:10.000
+They do histology and the main sites of disease in the control.
+
+01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:13.000
+I'm going to go back there a minute because I want to see the figure they're talking
+
+01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:14.000
+about.
+
+01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:15.000
+I don't think they got it wrong.
+
+01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:18.000
+I just want to see what they're talking about.
+
+01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:20.000
+No, none of the animals that were vaccinated.
+
+01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:23.000
+Like there's no variation whatsoever, or even like you were saying, the viremia is under
+
+01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:24.000
+the limit of detection.
+
+01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:25.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:28.000
+It looks like the only thing that maybe changes a little bit is like they get a teensy bit
+
+01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:29.000
+of temperature.
+
+01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:32.000
+Which is interesting actually, the only, like the, it's more than you would just expect
+
+01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:37.000
+in the wild type GPC vaccine, like in the, sorry I'm looking at the figure, but definitely
+
+01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:43.000
+almost, not almost the same as the control, but similar to, yeah.
+
+01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:48.000
+They do histology and the main sites of disease in the control group are the lungs and the
+
+01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:49.000
+liver.
+
+01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:52.000
+You see typical viral, interstitial pneumonia in sections of liver showing pathology typical
+
+01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:53.000
+of lasso virus infection.
+
+01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:57.000
+And the vaccinated animals with either vaccine, normal lung, normal liver.
+
+01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:01.000
+So both of these mRNA vaccines protect against the death and severe disease clearly.
+
+01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:02.000
+All right.
+
+01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.000
+And so now we can go back one section and say, what is protecting these animals?
+
+01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:10.000
+They say, despite excellent protection, there's, there's not neutralizing antibody in every
+
+01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:11.000
+hamster.
+
+01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:13.000
+And even in the ones that do have it, it's not great.
+
+01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:14.000
+So what are they thinking?
+
+01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:17.640
+Well, they're thinking about other mechanisms involving antibodies and particularly the
+
+01:04:17.640 --> 01:04:20.000
+FC portion and Brian has a, has a show and tell for us.
+
+01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:21.000
+I have, I do.
+
+01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:24.000
+I've talked about this exact, these exact functions today in class.
+
+01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:27.000
+And so I already had this out on my desk so that we can see an FC portion on an antibody.
+
+01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:28.000
+So that's below the eyes.
+
+01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:29.000
+We were listening.
+
+01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:30.000
+It looks like a very cute stuffed lobster.
+
+01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:31.000
+I was going to say the same thing.
+
+01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:33.000
+I was going to teach us more.
+
+01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:36.000
+So the FC portion combined receptors and a variety of love.
+
+01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:37.000
+I do.
+
+01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:43.000
+So the idea is that an antibody binds its epitope here or its antigen target here.
+
+01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:50.000
+And this is the variable region that can be remodeled to an electrostatic shape that matches the
+
+01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:51.000
+epitope.
+
+01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:57.000
+And so this can be any shape, but it's a short sequence of amino acid.
+
+01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:06.000
+So although it's an unlimited variety that can be created there in theory, it is a limited,
+
+01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:10.000
+a limited spectrum of things that can be created.
+
+01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:15.000
+And then down here at the bottom is this FC portion, which is the functional portion in
+
+01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:22.400
+the sense of whatever flag is on the end there, if that flag calls in red neutrophils or red
+
+01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:28.000
+team neutrophils, then the FC portion would be the red team neutrophil FC portion.
+
+01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:33.000
+And that would bring in neutrophils to anywhere where that antibody bound.
+
+01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:38.000
+So what antibodies are there are important because they do different things.
+
+01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:44.000
+That's what that story was about six months ago where they found IG4, I believe.
+
+01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:54.000
+And so these are IGG4 antibodies are antibodies with a very shortened or non receptor type
+
+01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:55.000
+FC portion.
+
+01:05:55.000 --> 01:06:01.000
+So it wasn't clear what those antibodies do other than block things or stick things together.
+
+01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:08.000
+And so that was sort of considered my more side of tolerance because then those antibodies
+
+01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:13.000
+aren't calling in other immune cells and potentially triggering cytokine cascades, et cetera.
+
+01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:16.000
+Anyway, it's too bad you didn't say more about it.
+
+01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:19.000
+Talked about this exact, these exact functions today in class.
+
+01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:22.000
+And so I already had this out on my desk so that we can see an FC portion on an antibody.
+
+01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:23.000
+That's below the eyes we were listening.
+
+01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:25.000
+It looks like a very cute stuffed lobster.
+
+01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:26.000
+I was going to say the same thing.
+
+01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:27.000
+It looks like a lot.
+
+01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:33.000
+So the FC portion combined receptors on a variety of cells and those cells can then
+
+01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:39.000
+mediate clearance of virus by the antibody recognizing that the antigen say on a cell surface.
+
+01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:44.000
+And so they tested antibody dependent neutrophil phagocytosis, antibody dependent cellular
+
+01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:48.000
+phagocytosis mediated by monocytes, antibody dependent NK cell activation,
+
+01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:50.000
+and antibody dependent complement deposition.
+
+01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:53.000
+So the antibody can also activate the complement system.
+
+01:06:54.000 --> 01:07:01.000
+So it's important to realize that those are all things that antibodies not necessarily
+
+01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:04.000
+specific for the virus can do.
+
+01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:09.000
+So understand this very, very clearly because I think this is what's going on here.
+
+01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:16.000
+And this is the part that makes it very disappointing from the perspective of these humans
+
+01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:24.000
+because they don't seem to understand immunology well enough to be able to pull back from this.
+
+01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:33.000
+Because the immunization of those animals has activated the immune system in response to
+
+01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:38.000
+an antigen.
+
+01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:43.000
+Now, whether or not it activates it perfectly or not doesn't change the fact that activation
+
+01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:52.000
+of it will allow B cells, which code for IgM antibodies, which are aimed at
+
+01:07:52.000 --> 01:08:00.000
+at manose binding lectins, which would bind glycoproteins, and they're more generally
+
+01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:07.000
+targeted antibodies so that there is an immediate antibody response that is less specific
+
+01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:15.000
+but still targeted for circulating things like RNA viruses that are coded in glycoproteins,
+
+01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:22.000
+foreign manose binding lectins, this kind of thing, are all targeting the same set of
+
+01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:26.000
+proteins on the outside of RNA type viruses.
+
+01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:31.000
+So when you vaccinate an animal, when you vaccinate a kid and activate their immune
+
+01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:39.000
+system with an antigen, you are activating this system and potentially increasing the
+
+01:08:39.000 --> 01:08:47.000
+circulatory levels of all of these nonspecific antibodies and nonspecific cells like natural
+
+01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:50.000
+killer cells, which they're also looking at activation of.
+
+01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:56.000
+So again, if natural killer cells get activated, then you're going to have an increased
+
+01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:03.000
+general defense against RNA viral infection, not specific for LASA.
+
+01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:11.000
+But if you challenge them with an RNA virus called LASA and no other virus, it might appear
+
+01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:18.000
+as though, wow, these are more resistant than these animals that were not injected.
+
+01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:23.000
+And it could make it look like in an animal model, if you kill all the animals on the same
+
+01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:27.000
+body and they don't let them recover, then wow, this was going to be a deadly virus.
+
+01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:29.000
+These animals all had symptoms.
+
+01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:31.000
+These animals did not.
+
+01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:38.000
+And worse yet, you have misrepresented the immune status of the animals that were vaccinated
+
+01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:45.000
+by pretending that the presence of those antibodies is somehow the only difference in those animals,
+
+01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:50.000
+which is relevant to their survival upon challenge.
+
+01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:55.000
+Without measuring the nonspecific IgMs that are produced by the B cells, which steal
+
+01:09:55.000 --> 01:10:03.000
+antigens from antigen-presenting cells, which are coming in to the outer layers of lymph nodes,
+
+01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:08.000
+that they did three different twin episodes about a year and a half ago.
+
+01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:15.000
+There are actually B cells which hang out at the doorways at different compartments
+
+01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:21.000
+with inside of lymph nodes and wait for antigen-presenting cells to come past,
+
+01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:30.000
+and they actually tear the MHC2 molecule and its presented antigen off of it
+
+01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:37.000
+so that when T cells are activated by those cells, those T cells can also turn on and boost
+
+01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:40.000
+these B cells to colonnally expand.
+
+01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:47.000
+So the nonspecific signal is boosted by any incoming antigen-presenting cell activity,
+
+01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:55.000
+while the specific T cell activity then allows the amplification of the nonspecific
+
+01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:02.000
+and any potential specific B cells which get activated by circulating antigen.
+
+01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:08.000
+And if you could follow that with no graphics, then you might actually understand a little
+
+01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:12.000
+bit about the immune system. You might actually get it.
+
+01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:18.000
+And these people should definitely be talking about that, but they're not.
+
+01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:25.000
+And instead, they're really just following the faith that's presented in this article,
+
+01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:33.000
+that the antibodies in Figure 1 have any bearing on what happens in Figure 6
+
+01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:39.000
+without talking about all the other potential changes that they're almost sure were happening
+
+01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:43.000
+inside of this guinea pig after they were transfected.
+
+01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:51.000
+So, I guess, Rian, these are all acting on infected cells,
+
+01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:53.000
+or some would also part virus particles, maybe?
+
+01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:55.000
+So it can be virus particles or infected cells.
+
+01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:58.000
+The NK activation is definitely acting on infected cells.
+
+01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:03.000
+I usually think of the phagocytosis and the complement deposition as acting more on viral particles,
+
+01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:06.000
+but you could perhaps come up with it.
+
+01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:15.000
+Complement deposition is also something that we've watched a video right before the pandemic.
+
+01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:22.000
+The book, so this guy.
+
+01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:26.000
+I don't know how to say it in German, but it's Kyrgyzath, this in a nutshell guy
+
+01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:35.000
+whose book I really like and whose immune system videos that were made before the pandemic are actually pretty brilliant.
+
+01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:42.000
+One of those immune system videos made before the pandemic talks about how viruses,
+
+01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:49.000
+when they float around in your plasma, have almost no chance because of the complement system.
+
+01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:59.000
+And so, complement deposition is something that happens spontaneously as well as antibody-directed complement deposition.
+
+01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:05.000
+Do not underestimate that the complement system is always trying to initiate,
+
+01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:13.000
+and you have in your cell membranes the lock and keys that sort of complement,
+
+01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:19.000
+that's the wrong word when talking about the complement system, but that's kind of by design
+
+01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:27.000
+that work together to neutralize that from actually building the cascade that would perforate a membrane.
+
+01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:33.000
+But viruses don't have that, and especially foreign ones that weren't manufactured in your own cells.
+
+01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:37.000
+And so, it's a brilliant statement that she's making here,
+
+01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:42.000
+but how come they didn't talk about how vulnerable viruses were to the complement system before this?
+
+01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:52.000
+How come she still hasn't realized that antibody-dependent enhancement is almost certainly antibodies binding to the outside of a virus
+
+01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:57.000
+and preventing complement deposition?
+
+01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:02.000
+And so then the viruses are more long-lived in the plasma,
+
+01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:07.000
+more likely to be taken up by antigen-presenting cells as opposed to just destroyed.
+
+01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:16.000
+And releasing their RNA, releasing the end protein, which is the most common antibody target in a viral infection,
+
+01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:20.000
+because of that mechanism right there. I mean, we're really on this.
+
+01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:30.000
+We've been on it for three years now, and it's cool to see how the immunomythology is so well-preserved on this,
+
+01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:38.000
+even when they skirt around these very interesting topics like quaternary target at antibodies,
+
+01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:49.000
+and they just still can't quite grasp how the simplification has sort of taken all the sacredness out of this.
+
+01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:54.000
+So wait a minute, let me make sure I got this straight.
+
+01:14:54.000 --> 01:15:00.000
+If you say acting, first of all, this has to do with the claw part of the lobster antibody, binding to antigen.
+
+01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:01.000
+Yes.
+
+01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:03.000
+Okay. And then the tail part of the antibody-
+
+01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:04.000
+Oh, there's an antigen too.
+
+01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:10.000
+Which is the FC portion binding to something else and affecting the fate of that antibody antigen complex, right?
+
+01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:11.000
+Correct.
+
+01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:18.000
+So when you say acting on infected cells, do you mean the antibody is binding to protein on the surface of infected cells?
+
+01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:22.000
+Yes, and so with an envelope to virus, you would see some amount of protein in the plasma membrane,
+
+01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:24.000
+and antibodies could bind to that protein.
+
+01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:29.000
+So let's go through again what you said some would be cell acting on cells other antibodies.
+
+01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:32.000
+So that would be an antibody-dependent NK activation.
+
+01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:38.000
+So you would have some protein on the surface of the infected cell, antibodies would bind, and then NK cells would kill the infected cell.
+
+01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:43.000
+Okay. And then there are a couple of phagocytosis assays. That's where there's some sort.
+
+01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:48.000
+And so of course, that's what happens on subsequent shots, which I've been saying over and over again.
+
+01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:58.000
+If on the first shot you transfect endothelial cells and endothelial cells express the transfected protein, in this case the spike protein,
+
+01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:02.000
+your body makes antibodies to the spike protein.
+
+01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.000
+Now those are in circulation.
+
+01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:10.000
+And a few months later, you take another transfection and endothelial cells are again expressing the spike protein.
+
+01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:20.000
+But any cells that express the spike protein now will have the potential to have antibodies bind that spike protein.
+
+01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:32.000
+And some of those antibodies will cause NK cell activation and NK cells, if they're activated by an antibody, will destroy the cell to which that antibody is bound.
+
+01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:43.000
+If that is an endothelial cell in a capillary of your lungs, you're going to have a problem because once the NK cell has done that, then you might get neutrophils coming in.
+
+01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:46.000
+You might have cytokine release.
+
+01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:51.000
+You might have previously instructed T cells from the first shot coming in.
+
+01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:55.000
+And now you have a real problem.
+
+01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:06.000
+And my guess is that if we did the math, we would find that people's propensity for damage increases with the numbers of shots that they take.
+
+01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:08.000
+And the safest shot is the first one.
+
+01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:10.000
+And this would be why?
+
+01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:12.000
+Because the immune system is learning.
+
+01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:15.000
+And then the immune system is responding.
+
+01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:24.000
+And in the first shot, maybe you don't have so much of the cytotoxic response because you don't have so much of these antibodies
+
+01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:27.000
+that would potentially cause it.
+
+01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:29.000
+Sort of FC receptor on the cell.
+
+01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:30.000
+On the phagocyte.
+
+01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:33.000
+On the phagocyte that just sucks up the whole antibody antigen complex and gets rid of it.
+
+01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:35.000
+In case it's bound to virus, right?
+
+01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:39.000
+Yeah, so it's probably virus and it's probably enhancing that virus's phagocytosis.
+
+01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:42.000
+And the compliment is that the compliment going to be acting on the virus?
+
+01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:46.000
+That's tougher, but I think the compliment would probably be acting on the virus.
+
+01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:50.000
+I don't know if the poor, it would be membrane attack and making a poor.
+
+01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:56.000
+You can also think about compliments helping phagocytosis or compliment inducing some inflammatory response.
+
+01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:00.000
+I don't know enough about their ADCD assay that they use to know exactly how it's being measured.
+
+01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:02.000
+I think they're just looking for a compliment being deposited.
+
+01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:04.000
+They don't actually look at what the deposited compliment does.
+
+01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:09.000
+But importantly, these are all ways to get rid of either virus in fact itself or virus that don't involve neutralization.
+
+01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:10.000
+Absolutely.
+
+01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:13.000
+And they all require the FC portion, which neutralization might not.
+
+01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:15.000
+And they find evidence for all of them in their assays.
+
+01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:16.000
+They have a variety of assays to measure these.
+
+01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:20.000
+And they say vaccination with either construct induce each of these FC mediated mean mechanisms.
+
+01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:26.000
+So if you wanted to take this further, Brianne, what would you do to show that these are working in the animals say?
+
+01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:28.000
+You could do an NK null guinea pig if you could do that, right?
+
+01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:30.000
+You could do an NK null guinea pig.
+
+01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:36.000
+You could, I would be interested in knowing exactly which types of antibodies they are because different antibodies,
+
+01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:41.000
+say I2G versus IgM, tend to do some of these functions more or less than others.
+
+01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:44.000
+So IgM, for example, is very good at fixing compliment.
+
+01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:49.000
+And so if I saw that the animals were largely making M, then I could start to look at what's going on with compliment a little more.
+
+01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:54.000
+So does this mean that you would get similar results in humans?
+
+01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:57.000
+I think we'd have to check and see.
+
+01:18:57.000 --> 01:18:58.000
+Yes.
+
+01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:01.000
+They say they're going to do non-human primates next because this doesn't mean anything about people.
+
+01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:05.000
+I will also say that non-human primates are not going to definitely tell you, but it's the best you can do.
+
+01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:07.000
+And then you go into, you do a phase one and phase two and phase three.
+
+01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:09.000
+You certainly have enough cases to do phase two and three, right?
+
+01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:10.000
+Right.
+
+01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:11.000
+My slide on monkeys exaggerate it.
+
+01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:13.000
+I'm not sure about guinea pigs.
+
+01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:15.000
+Guinea pigs laugh.
+
+01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:17.000
+So that's the interesting part of this.
+
+01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:20.000
+I think it's quite interesting that this vaccine is protective.
+
+01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:24.000
+It looks like infection because they don't see viremia without neutralizing antibody.
+
+01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:28.000
+And you know, the conventional wisdom is you need neutralizing antibodies to prevent infection.
+
+01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:29.000
+But here's an example.
+
+01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:35.000
+And it may be that the replication cycle is sufficiently long of this virus that it gives time for FC-dependent mechanisms to kick in.
+
+01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:36.000
+I don't know.
+
+01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:37.000
+But I thought that was really interesting.
+
+01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:38.000
+It is.
+
+01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:42.000
+They also do mention that they have not looked at cell-mediated immune responses here, so we don't know if T cells are doing anything.
+
+01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:49.000
+We don't know if T cells are doing anything because they haven't done any cell-mediated responses at all.
+
+01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:55.000
+But how do they get B cell responses if they're not getting T cell response?
+
+01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:59.000
+You see that it's just crazy.
+
+01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:01.000
+These people know how the immune system works.
+
+01:20:01.000 --> 01:20:06.000
+So they know that antigen-presenting cells had to go to work.
+
+01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:13.000
+And if antigen-presenting cells went to work, then nonspecific B cells were activated by their passage into the lymph node,
+
+01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:18.000
+which means, and nonspecific IgM went up.
+
+01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:28.000
+It means that cells that recognize these epitopes from other viruses or similar ones could potentially be woken up,
+
+01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:34.000
+depending on what aspects of this protein are being presented.
+
+01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:46.000
+It's an incredible simplification of things going on while purporting to discuss a very interesting observation,
+
+01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:53.000
+which should have allowed them to bring people closer to understanding the complexity at hand.
+
+01:20:53.000 --> 01:21:01.000
+And instead, they're being very careful to make sure that nobody sees the complexity that's available in this paper.
+
+01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:03.000
+So that could perhaps be another study as well.
+
+01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:07.000
+Yeah, which that's something that's limited, apparently, by the available tools for guinea pigs.
+
+01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:10.000
+So they just don't have assays that they can use that.
+
+01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:11.000
+Yes.
+
+01:21:11.000 --> 01:21:18.000
+If you vaccinate with this mRNA vaccine, how many days later will you get effective T cells at the sites of injection?
+
+01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:19.000
+What are they challenging with them?
+
+01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:21.000
+Intraperitoneally is the challenge.
+
+01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:26.000
+So how long would it take to get T cells there?
+
+01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:32.000
+Intraperitoneally means, like, in the body cavity, they're injecting the virus.
+
+01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:47.000
+And the virus is generated by a few passages of something on cells and then putting that in the peritoneum.
+
+01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:58.000
+So you just lift the skin of the animal and poke the needle under the skin and then inject.
+
+01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:06.000
+It's not really how viruses tend to enter the immune system, right?
+
+01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:24.000
+So maybe serum antibodies are more useful in a scenario where somebody lifts your skin and injects 30 platforming units of something into your peritoneum,
+
+01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:29.000
+as opposed to, you know, like, breathe on you or something like that.
+
+01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:45.000
+But again, not wanting to sound like the Bailey's or not sounding like there's no virus, but these kinds of experiments that are done in with these methodologies have to be scrutinized for what they are.
+
+01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:51.000
+They're not really bona fide examples of how viruses work.
+
+01:22:51.000 --> 01:23:01.000
+They're not really, you know, they're not sick animals in a little animal hospital and they're, you know, getting treatment monitoring and they didn't come in sick.
+
+01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:11.000
+And they didn't make a little air, air, you know, connected little bubbles where they infected them all, like real animals getting infected.
+
+01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:21.000
+That's not what they did. They lifted the skin and they injected the contents of a cell culture into their peritoneal cavity.
+
+01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:23.000
+And that was infection.
+
+01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:40.000
+And the treated animals apparently didn't get sick from that, which is amazing, but I'm not really sure that that's the same as giving protection from whatever this virus would be and however a guinea pig would get it in the wild.
+
+01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:48.000
+It's super bizarre a world this. It's like they can't see this between a week and two weeks.
+
+01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:51.000
+So they're challenging till 56 days. Yeah. Yeah.
+
+01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:57.000
+Because it depends on the virus, right? Because certain viruses, it's very well defined. Like LCMB, you know that, like, by day age, you'll have, like, peak T cell response and then you'll be able to.
+
+01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:58.000
+Right. With Alaska.
+
+01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:00.000
+Has it even been studied? I don't know.
+
+01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:06.000
+It's a good point. But, you know, the member in the control animals, they have no signs of disease until seven to nine days. So presumably the virus is reproducing.
+
+01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:15.000
+But maybe that's when the T cells would be coming up, depending on the kinetics, right? Absolutely. And we talk about that with, you know, day eight or whatever as being kind of the peak response.
+
+01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:19.000
+Earlier, you'd see some response, just not the best possible response.
+
+01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:30.000
+Anyway, so when a new variant of SARS-CoV-2 shows up and they look to see whether that variant Daniel has posted a really nice thing in the chat.
+
+01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:49.000
+And I think that's the next immunology lecture that's coming will be one that really talks about how the tolerant side of T cells and the intolerant side of T cells is a sort of yin and yang that with a natural infection is stimulated in the correct way.
+
+01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:55.000
+And with an intramuscular injection is not stimulated at all.
+
+01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:05.000
+And so this augmentation and what we're trying to augment requires understanding the system that you're trying to change.
+
+01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:17.000
+And I would suggest, and I'm going to keep suggesting that intramuscular injection of a combination of chemicals and proteins suggests that people don't understand how the immune system works.
+
+01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:30.000
+And since I know that we understand how the immune system works better than what is belied by that methodology, we need to speak out and we need to speak out now.
+
+01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:41.000
+Because the vaccine act and the prep act basically allow them to call anything they want, a countermeasure, and that includes injectables.
+
+01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:51.000
+And there's very few good reasons for intramuscular injection of any combination of anything to augment the immune system.
+
+01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:56.000
+I assure you, we are going to be, we are going to be proven right on that.
+
+01:25:56.000 --> 01:26:01.000
+We are.
+
+01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:09.000
+And what we're going to be doing is how it reacts with serum from previous infections.
+
+01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:14.000
+The gold standard, as it were, they're usually reporting on a neutralization assay.
+
+01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:24.000
+And if they say the serum that was from previous infections does not neutralize or poorly neutralizes this new variant, you don't necessarily have to freak out.
+
+01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:27.000
+Because there, you might want to freak out.
+
+01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:34.000
+But yeah, a lot of people who have only the three original SARS-CoV-2 vaccines who then get infected with Omicron's, they stay out of the hospital, right?
+
+01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:37.000
+They're alive because of probably some of these effector functions and T cells and others.
+
+01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:38.000
+Yeah, I guess.
+
+01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:40.000
+But still, of course, with all the caveats involved.
+
+01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:42.000
+The skinny patients, laughing at SARS, blah, blah, blah.
+
+01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:48.000
+I mean, I think most people will say that antibodies are really important for preventing infection by SARS-CoV-2.
+
+01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:53.000
+But if you don't, if they don't neutralize, you can, you might want to speak out.
+
+01:26:53.000 --> 01:27:01.000
+Yeah, a lot of people who have only the three original SARS-CoV-2 vaccines who then get infected with Omicron's, they stay out of the hospital, right?
+
+01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:03.000
+But no more abilities you have, right?
+
+01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:04.000
+Right.
+
+01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:07.000
+Because there, you might want to freak out.
+
+01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:17.000
+But yeah, a lot of people who have only the three original SARS-CoV-2 vaccines who then get infected with Omicron's, they stay out of the hospital, right?
+
+01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:22.000
+They're alive because of probably some of these effector functions and T cells and others.
+
+01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:24.000
+Yeah, I guess.
+
+01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:25.000
+Yeah, I guess.
+
+01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:32.000
+I guess maybe that's why some people are still alive because of these other functions besides antibodies or not.
+
+01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:33.000
+But still.
+
+01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:35.000
+Of course, with all the caveats involved.
+
+01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:38.000
+The skinny pigs, the slothsets, not SARS, blah, blah, blah.
+
+01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:46.000
+No, I mean, I think most people will say that antibodies are really important for preventing infection by SARS-CoV-2.
+
+01:27:47.000 --> 01:27:48.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:27:48.000 --> 01:27:59.000
+But if they don't neutralize, you can still live, and some studies have shown, and we've done them, that FC-mediated mechanisms are involved in protection.
+
+01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:05.000
+So neutralizing antibodies is a very interesting term they keep coming bouncing back to.
+
+01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:16.000
+And really neutralizing antibodies comes down to a test in a laboratory where they use virus or clone or something,
+
+01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:25.000
+viral particles, pseudovirus particles in some cases, with the protein in question on the outside.
+
+01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:39.000
+And the antibodies have to prevent those proteins from causing cytotoxicity in the or psychopathic effects in the cell culture that they would otherwise infect.
+
+01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:45.000
+So neutralizing antibodies have to change the infectivity of the virus in a negative way.
+
+01:28:46.000 --> 01:29:04.000
+And so antibodies that don't do that are non neutralizing antibodies, but they can still bind quaternary epitopes that are related to the spike protein in a way that bring about the effective clearance of the virus.
+
+01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:21.000
+So, and again, remember they're looking for antibodies, but they have no proof that the antibodies are saving the animals because in fact half of the animals or more don't even have the antibodies that they're looking for.
+
+01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:42.000
+And so this whole paper is a giant incongruency that points to the fact that as we model this immunology, we are using immunomethology because we're vaccinating these animals and we're using as a proxy of immunity,
+
+01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:56.000
+the presence of neutralizing or non neutralizing antibodies, but even both of those categories neutralizing or non neutralizing only half of the animals have any antibodies that are detectable.
+
+01:29:56.000 --> 01:30:09.000
+So what's saving them the same thing that saved everybody else at the beginning of the pandemic, the same thing that saves us for all of our existence for millennia.
+
+01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:26.000
+This beautiful symphony of over 30 or 40 different subtypes of cells, which independently coordinate a specific and non specific wing of attack that prevents aberrant genetic signals in our body.
+
+01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:38.000
+That's what this is about, and they're trying to say that you can usefully augment that beautiful symphony by injecting a bunch of crap in your muscle.
+
+01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:55.000
+And they're also agreeing with the idea that if you take some RNA and you passage it on cells four times and then you take the contents of that of that supernatant or lysate and then you inject it interperitoneally
+
+01:30:55.000 --> 01:31:10.000
+under the skin of an animal, and some get sick and some don't, that the presence of those antibodies that you tested for in figures one through three is the reason why some died and some didn't.
+
+01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:16.000
+But you know you're augmenting an immune system that has 100 moving parts.
+
+01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:20.000
+Yeah, it might be that too, might be some of those other parts too.
+
+01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:28.000
+Because some of those animals didn't even have anybody so maybe it's those other things I don't know, it could be, it could be, sorry this isn't SARS though.
+
+01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:32.000
+Animal model, we did that, I think that was a Michael Diamond paper.
+
+01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:40.000
+Yeah, for some reason I was thinking we talked about it or somehow referenced Paul B. Nash and Theodora, maybe during that discussion.
+
+01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:44.000
+So, I think, yeah.
+
+01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:49.000
+Anyway, there are a number of other vaccines in development, I just want you to know that.
+
+01:31:49.000 --> 01:32:00.000
+And they're two VSV, Viscular Stomatitis Vectored Vaccines, and they're actually DNA vaccines as well.
+
+01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:09.000
+So there are a bunch of others which is good because we want to have a vaccine and we don't need to have 5000 deaths a year from this infection.
+
+01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:20.000
+Yeah, I was actually, I was impressed, they summarized in the paper the different candidates that are out there and I didn't realize there were that many for this virus.
+
+01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:28.000
+It is a very serious ongoing development effort and it seems likely that something's going to work.
+
+01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:38.000
+They also pointed out that there were differences in the immune response to those different vaccines.
+
+01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:41.000
+Was that, I forget.
+
+01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:42.000
+I'm going to speed it up again.
+
+01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:43.000
+Yeah, there were some.
+
+01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:44.000
+Whether or not they.
+
+01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:46.000
+Almost those things.
+
+01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:47.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:48.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:49.000
+Quaternary epitope.
+
+01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:50.000
+No, there we go.
+
+01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:51.000
+Yes.
+
+01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:53.000
+Yeah, there were some that seemed to work.
+
+01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:58.000
+There were some others, I think, that seemed to work, even though they don't always induce neutralizing antibody or moderate neutralizing antibody.
+
+01:32:58.000 --> 01:32:59.000
+So this may be a theme.
+
+01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:04.000
+So there is a looking looking at, you know, the sort of the composition of those different vaccines.
+
+01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:09.000
+I don't see any way you could predict that they would give different sorts of immunizations.
+
+01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:12.000
+A lot of them are making protein in during the immunization.
+
+01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:13.000
+Okay.
+
+01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:14.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:15.000
+One's an attenuated virus.
+
+01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:17.000
+A couple of them, I think, are vectored.
+
+01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:18.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:27.000
+So there are a couple of measles virus vectored constructs that don't induce neutralizing antibodies and they still give near sterilizing protection, they say, in non-human primates.
+
+01:33:27.000 --> 01:33:31.000
+So this is something that we're seeing with lassa virus, I suppose.
+
+01:33:31.000 --> 01:33:32.000
+So anyway, that's that.
+
+01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:33.000
+I thought that was cool.
+
+01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:34.000
+Very cool.
+
+01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:35.000
+I like that.
+
+01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:36.000
+Thank you.
+
+01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:37.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:39.000
+Next paper is, well, this paper makes me obsolete.
+
+01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:40.000
+Okay.
+
+01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:41.000
+This is.
+
+01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:42.000
+Yeah, but they cited you.
+
+01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:45.000
+This is a very nice discussion that comes up next.
+
+01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:54.000
+So I want you to pay very close attention to how Vincent Ranson yellow introduces it without saying infectious clones.
+
+01:33:54.000 --> 01:34:01.000
+So he's going to try and complain that they're not really talking like they should be talking.
+
+01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:06.000
+Because they're not really telling you that the way that they do this is using clones.
+
+01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:14.000
+And I made the first clone, but he is going to say it, but it's just interesting how we go through it because there's going to be several almost.
+
+01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:23.000
+You would think like, wait, wow, are they actually saying that we can't work on RNA viruses without this technology called cloning.
+
+01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:24.000
+Really?
+
+01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:26.000
+Because they're about to say it right now.
+
+01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:29.000
+You're not going to believe it.
+
+01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:31.000
+Okay.
+
+01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:32.000
+I'm very impressed.
+
+01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:33.000
+They said it to me and Charlie Weissman.
+
+01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:36.000
+And, you know, most people forget what happens more than five years ago.
+
+01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:37.000
+That's right.
+
+01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:38.000
+Science.
+
+01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:39.000
+I missed that.
+
+01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:40.000
+What did they say you for?
+
+01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:41.000
+Oh, for a row.
+
+01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:42.000
+Okay.
+
+01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:43.000
+So in the discussion, this is a good way to start this actually.
+
+01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:49.000
+Several years after the Asilomar conference on recombinant DNA in 1975, the first complementary DNA clones of RNA viruses were created.
+
+01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:52.000
+References 25 and 26 Charles Weissman and Baltimore and Raccoon yellow.
+
+01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:58.000
+So when I went to David's lab in 1979, he said, Vinny, Asilomar said, we could clone the whole polio genome.
+
+01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:00.000
+I want you to do that and see if it's infectious.
+
+01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.000
+And I did it and it was infectious and that's where this came from, right?
+
+01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:05.000
+You can make a DNA copy of polio virus RNA genome.
+
+01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:09.000
+So now you could manipulate the genome because you couldn't manipulate RNA.
+
+01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:10.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:11.000
+And now this paper is going to change that.
+
+01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:12.000
+It's going to.
+
+01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:15.000
+And that has been, we've talked about this off and on in various episodes.
+
+01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:19.000
+That's been a huge roadblock to studying RNA viruses in general because, I mean, Vincent did this with polio virus.
+
+01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:23.000
+It turns out you can't just do the same thing with every other RNA virus.
+
+01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:25.000
+Some of them you can, some of them you can't do.
+
+01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:28.000
+You get the cDNA, that part is now relatively straightforward.
+
+01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:31.000
+But whether or not it's infectious depends a lot, virus to virus.
+
+01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:36.000
+So there are a lot of RNA viruses that we can't do molecular biology on very easily or at least we couldn't.
+
+01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:38.000
+And that's what these folks are trying to address.
+
+01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:39.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:42.000
+And I mean, you could imagine other ways that somebody might think about wanting to edit RNA.
+
+01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:44.000
+And editing RNA basically wasn't a choice.
+
+01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:45.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:51.000
+I mean, I mentioned, you know, SARS-CoV-2, you couldn't take a single 30,000 base piece of DNA and stick it in a plasmid.
+
+01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:56.000
+You had to make fragments and clone them in multiple plasmids and put them in cells so they recombine and so forth.
+
+01:35:56.000 --> 01:35:57.000
+So it was tricky.
+
+01:35:57.000 --> 01:35:59.000
+But in theory, this method, which is in this paper, it could get around that.
+
+01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:10.000
+It's called CRISPR-based engineering of RNA viruses by Artem Nemudry, Anna Nemudrya, Joseph Nichols, Andrew Schifersall, and Blake Wiedenheft.
+
+01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:15.000
+And they're from Post Montana State University in Bozeman, Montana.
+
+01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:17.000
+So I'm thinking, okay, where is this?
+
+01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:20.000
+UCSF, Chicago Stanford, Harvard, no, it's Bozeman.
+
+01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:22.000
+So good work can be done anywhere.
+
+01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:23.000
+You need a lot of things.
+
+01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:25.000
+You need money, you need interest, and so forth.
+
+01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:27.000
+Anyway, so there's only six authors on this paper.
+
+01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:28.000
+No, it's cool.
+
+01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:29.000
+Not an enormous group these days.
+
+01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:31.000
+Hey, when I did this with David, there were two authors on the page.
+
+01:36:31.000 --> 01:36:32.000
+Yeah, they had a different time.
+
+01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:36.000
+Those are the old days when we walked uphill 30 miles to get to school in the snow.
+
+01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:37.000
+In other ways, yeah.
+
+01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:42.000
+Anyway, you know, you can, they make this very interesting historical statement.
+
+01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:45.000
+The first was the first to make a recombinant DNA molecule in 1972.
+
+01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:49.000
+And then we have used recombinant DNA to study many, many things, not just viruses.
+
+01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:55.000
+But, and then CRISPR came along to allow editing of DNAs, but very few tools to do RNA.
+
+01:36:55.000 --> 01:37:00.000
+So just, just to remind you, CRISPR is a defense system from bacteria and archaea that evolved
+
+01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:04.000
+to protect against viruses and incoming DNAs into bacteria and archaea.
+
+01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:09.000
+And it involves a system where a set of nucleases in the host cell combined with a guide RNA
+
+01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:13.000
+and targets a specific sequence will say if a phage infects a cell, the DNA will be degraded.
+
+01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:16.000
+And it's been repurposed by scientists to do gene editing.
+
+01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:21.000
+So you can take a guide RNA and the proteins and nucleases and so forth and put them in cells
+
+01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:24.000
+and you can edit DNA in reasonably precise ways.
+
+01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:26.000
+But we haven't been able to do that with RNA.
+
+01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:28.000
+And that's what they're going to do in this paper.
+
+01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:30.000
+Yeah, I really liked how they laid this out in the introduction.
+
+01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:31.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:35.000
+Because they kind of, they made it in a way that I'm interested to think about with students
+
+01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:38.000
+because they basically talk about the fact that, well, if you're going to manipulate DNA,
+
+01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:42.000
+you need an enzyme that cuts the DNA in a place where you want, or some way to get the DNA cut where you want to.
+
+01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:48.000
+And of course, the problem here is, again, what we heard Vincent Rancin yellow tell us the other night.
+
+01:37:48.000 --> 01:37:52.000
+Sorry, Vincent Raccoon yellow.
+
+01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:57.000
+Did you hear, by the way, that he referred to David Baltimore as calling him Vinnie?
+
+01:37:57.000 --> 01:37:58.000
+Did you catch that part?
+
+01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:00.000
+Hey, Vinnie, I want you to do that.
+
+01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:04.000
+No, I kind of forgot what I was going to say.
+
+01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:06.000
+Sorry, I got, oh, yeah, sorry.
+
+01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:09.000
+The, the idea was that thanks for that.
+
+01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:16.000
+Watch or be CRISPR will save us reminded me that they, they're trying to edit a genome.
+
+01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:24.000
+And if you're culturing a genome in, in, in cell culture, the way that they do.
+
+01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:33.000
+And it is a, it is a virus as we understand it, then the replication will be erroneous and, and not imperfect.
+
+01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:37.000
+You'll have a cloud of particles. A lot of them won't have a complete genome.
+
+01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:41.000
+And any of them that do will have a unique complete genome.
+
+01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:53.000
+And so if you want to do CRISPR editing on RNA and study the mechanisms by which it works, you got to start with a pure RNA sample.
+
+01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:59.000
+Not a swarm of all kinds of different genomes that would be made in a culture.
+
+01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:02.000
+You got to start with a, with a clone.
+
+01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:14.000
+A whole bunch of identical molecules. And then if you want to see the signal of the alteration that you make, those molecules have to be sufficiently homologous and homogenous.
+
+01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:23.000
+So that the change will be visible in the two, the differences between the original molecule and the changed one.
+
+01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:31.000
+If you only change a small portion of them or the changes in all different places, it won't become a signal that you can see.
+
+01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:43.000
+And so the whole idea of sequencing DNA and all this other stuff relies on being able to make many high fidelity copies.
+
+01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:49.000
+And you can't do that with RNA. You just can't. You can do it with DNA.
+
+01:39:49.000 --> 01:40:13.000
+And so if you start and we look at this carefully, you will see that this is an evolution of this synthetic DNA and RNA technology and editing the DNA and RNA is an evolution and another little step in our ability to make these sequences from scratch.
+
+01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:38.000
+But it doesn't change the fact that any one of these sequences, regardless of what they're endowed with, do not gain God-like powers where they have infinite fidelity and can circulate the globe for years and years and years through all the people that you test positive.
+
+01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:46.000
+That's not how this works. If that signal is real, it was there before the pandemic.
+
+01:40:46.000 --> 01:41:00.000
+And if that signal is semi-real and the rest is fake, it was done with clones because they're telling you right here, we couldn't work on these things until we figured out how to do this.
+
+01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:10.000
+And Vincent Rancin, Yellow, was asked by his then new boss, Baltimore, to do that very thing, make the RNA, make it whole, and then let's do it.
+
+01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:14.000
+Let's talk about it some more because they're going to keep going. They're going to keep talking.
+
+01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:21.000
+And you need repair. And fortunately, ourselves can do lots of DNA repair. So we just cut the DNA where we want, and then we set up repair in a useful way.
+
+01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:29.000
+And they talk a little bit about the fact that, well, first, we need to have some way to cut RNA and we found some of that with other crispers, but they don't always cut exactly the right place.
+
+01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:37.000
+And as soon as I started reading this, that approach of, well, first, you need to cut, then you need to repair, just made it very clear in my mind of like, oh, yeah, RNA repair.
+
+01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:39.000
+What? That's that's that's.
+
+01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:42.000
+Nobody repairs RNA. It's possible.
+
+01:41:42.000 --> 01:41:48.000
+And the crisper system evolved as a way to destroy RNA. So you're not going to find much luck there, right?
+
+01:41:48.000 --> 01:41:56.000
+So there are many different kinds of DNA crisper systems, and there are also some that target RNA, and it's the one they're going to use here is a type three crisper system.
+
+01:41:56.000 --> 01:42:03.000
+But there are other RNA crisper systems that have the problem that when they're activated, they also degrade other RNAs.
+
+01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:09.000
+But this particular one, this type three crisper RNA system doesn't have this other nuclease that's going to just degrade RNA.
+
+01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:14.000
+And so you can do precise targeting of RNAs in theory with not a lot of off target effects. Well, that remains to be seen.
+
+01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:16.000
+So that's what they're using in this paper.
+
+01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:25.000
+Is it fair to say that all of these crisper systems are basically a protein RNA complex where the RNA guides the protein to a complementary sequence and there's cleavage?
+
+01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:30.000
+And beyond that, there's huge variation on that theme, much greater variation than I was aware of before.
+
+01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:36.000
+I read this, I said, Oh, yeah, there's a lot, you know, because we look in various species of bacteria and you can get different enzymes and they have different properties.
+
+01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:39.000
+And furthermore, you can modify the enzymes to restrict and expand their properties as well.
+
+01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:44.000
+So it's a huge enterprise because people want to be able to do gene editing, right? That's what they want to do.
+
+01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:53.000
+So this one, this type three crisper system in this paper, very interesting, it's made up of five subunits, which assemble around a crisper RNA.
+
+01:42:53.000 --> 01:43:00.000
+And there's an endo ribonuclease that will bind to the target RNA and cut it at six nucleotide intervals.
+
+01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:03.000
+A very nice picture here showing how that works.
+
+01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:06.000
+So there's a series of proteins including the nucleates that will bind to the RNA.
+
+01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:11.000
+And you can direct it to some specific place on the RNA by using a target RNA.
+
+01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:14.000
+So they first establish that this works.
+
+01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:18.000
+They take the nucleocapsid gene of SARS-CoV-2 and they make the proteins.
+
+01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:23.000
+So they have to produce the proteins and cells and purify them and add the RNA that will target it to the RNA.
+
+01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:28.000
+They show that it will cleave it with very high efficiency and they make the fragments that are of the expected size.
+
+01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:31.000
+Actually, it's a very nice diagram in this supplementary.
+
+01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:35.000
+Don't let the chat distract you. Just block those people.
+
+01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:40.000
+You're missing this really good video here where they're explaining how clones are made.
+
+01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:42.000
+Figure is where it's expected to make the sequence.
+
+01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:43.000
+This checkology is.
+
+01:43:43.000 --> 01:43:45.000
+That's what they want to do.
+
+01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:49.000
+So this one, this Type 3 CRISPR system in this paper, very interesting.
+
+01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:54.000
+It's made up of five subunits which assemble around a CRISPR RNA.
+
+01:43:54.000 --> 01:44:01.000
+And there's an endo ribonuclease that will bind to the target RNA and cut it at six nucleotide intervals.
+
+01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:04.000
+A very nice picture here showing how that works.
+
+01:44:04.000 --> 01:44:07.000
+So there's a series of proteins including the nucleates that will bind to the RNA.
+
+01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:12.000
+And you can direct it to some specific place on the RNA by using a target RNA.
+
+01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:14.000
+So they first establish that this works.
+
+01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:18.000
+They take the nucleocapsogen of SARS-CoV-2 and they make the proteins.
+
+01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:23.000
+So they have to produce the proteins and cells and purify them and add the RNA that will target it to the RNA.
+
+01:44:23.000 --> 01:44:28.000
+They show that it will cleave it with very high efficiency and they make the fragments that are of the expected size.
+
+01:44:28.000 --> 01:44:37.000
+Actually, it's a very nice diagram in this supplementary figures where they show the RNA that they've made to target this protein complex to the target RNA
+
+01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:43.000
+and how the proteins line up one after another and cut that target RNA in every six spaces or so.
+
+01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:44.000
+So it works.
+
+01:44:44.000 --> 01:44:48.000
+Now, here's the cool part that brings me back to the old days.
+
+01:44:48.000 --> 01:44:52.000
+When this enzyme, it's purified from streptococcus thermophilus.
+
+01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:56.000
+So this particular enzyme, the type 3a CRISPR, is purified from there.
+
+01:44:56.000 --> 01:45:02.000
+When it cuts the RNA, it makes two prime, three prime cyclic phosphates and a five prime hydroxyl at each cut site.
+
+01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:06.000
+And if you remember anything about DNA, that can't be ligated.
+
+01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:09.000
+DNA ligases need three prime hydroxyls and five prime phosphates.
+
+01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:13.000
+And in fact, when we used the ligate in the old days, phage T4 ligase, right?
+
+01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:15.000
+We used to buy it and use that to ligase.
+
+01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:17.000
+But you needed to have a five prime phosphate.
+
+01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:20.000
+And if you had DNA without it, you had to add it with poly nucleotide kinase.
+
+01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:26.000
+However, there's a ligase from E. coli that can join the RNAs that are made by this CRISPR cleavage,
+
+01:45:26.000 --> 01:45:28.000
+the two prime, three prime cyclic and the five prime hydroxyl.
+
+01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:30.000
+So they try both of those.
+
+01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:32.000
+And to enhance the reaction, they make DNA.
+
+01:45:32.000 --> 01:45:33.000
+They call them DNA splints.
+
+01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:37.000
+The DNA is hybridized to both ends of the RNA that have been cut and kind of hold them together
+
+01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:39.000
+while the ligase is ligated at the ends.
+
+01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:40.000
+I thought this was very clever.
+
+01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:42.000
+So they basically came up with RNA repair?
+
+01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:43.000
+Yeah, they had to, right.
+
+01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:44.000
+This is not going to be over there.
+
+01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:45.000
+Well, there isn't a good RNA repair mechanism.
+
+01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:46.000
+Let's build one.
+
+01:45:46.000 --> 01:45:47.000
+Right.
+
+01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:51.000
+And so they found that both of these ligations worked, but the T4 was more efficient.
+
+01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:52.000
+So they decided to follow that.
+
+01:45:52.000 --> 01:45:54.000
+It's 25-fold more.
+
+01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:57.000
+So I think it's important to see that here.
+
+01:45:57.000 --> 01:46:03.000
+The only way that they can get a signal that this clean is if the product that they start
+
+01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:09.000
+with, the target RNA that they're manipulating is pure.
+
+01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:15.000
+Because then when they make the alteration, the DNA splint that they choose will be specific
+
+01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:20.000
+for every one of them because there's no variation or very little.
+
+01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:30.000
+And so the only way this really works is they get, now they get GFP signal, which is
+
+01:46:30.000 --> 01:46:35.000
+really, again, just whether a protein is being produced or not.
+
+01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:42.000
+You don't know at this stage how many of these are genuinely the same sequence because they've
+
+01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:47.000
+distilled it down to the presence or absence of a green signal.
+
+01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:52.000
+So you've got to be very careful here because, again, it's not to say that something isn't
+
+01:46:52.000 --> 01:46:55.000
+happening here and that molecular biology doesn't work.
+
+01:46:55.000 --> 01:47:02.000
+It is that when you start with a pure sample of RNA, you're not starting with something
+
+01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:07.000
+that represents the natural viral RNA genome.
+
+01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:14.000
+You're starting with a hyper-pure version that produces a hyper-pure set of viral particles
+
+01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:17.000
+or virions or whatever you call them.
+
+01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:24.000
+And you start with this, in this case, a hyper-pure RNA sample that you're then going to expose to
+
+01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:26.000
+an enzyme that does predictable things.
+
+01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:30.000
+And then in the products, you can see predictable changes.
+
+01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:34.000
+That's not very surprising.
+
+01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:40.000
+And what it does is it kind of clouds the water that you're still talking about.
+
+01:47:40.000 --> 01:47:44.000
+Now, you have to start with a pure RNA, which means you have to start with an infectious
+
+01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:45.000
+clone.
+
+01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:50.000
+This whole thing has to be based on an infectious clone.
+
+01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:53.000
+And so then we're not talking about natural viruses.
+
+01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:58.000
+We're talking about synthetic viruses here, which I'm making the argument is the only
+
+01:47:58.000 --> 01:47:59.000
+danger.
+
+01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:08.000
+They had to produce a lot of it in order to get it to be all over the world like it was.
+
+01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:13.000
+And if they didn't produce it, the easiest way would be for it to already be there, the
+
+01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:16.000
+signal, not the virus.
+
+01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:20.000
+It doesn't have to be that there's SARS virus everywhere in the background for there to
+
+01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:25.000
+be a signal that was said to be SARS virus.
+
+01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:31.000
+If the PCR could not differentiate from other N proteins, could not differentiate from other
+
+01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:39.000
+RNA-dependent RNA polymerases, and there is a background signal of those two, then
+
+01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:45.000
+sequence over PCRing with a specific primers that aren't properly nested for those two
+
+01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:51.000
+targets will give you false positives all the time.
+
+01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:54.000
+And that's what this whole mess is about.
+
+01:48:54.000 --> 01:49:00.000
+It's about people being so compartmentalized in their thinking and so presumptive in the
+
+01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:05.000
+narrative being right that all of these people would have never lied to us about the potential
+
+01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:07.000
+for a pandemic.
+
+01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:13.000
+All of these people wouldn't lie to us about the potential for worst case scenario.
+
+01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:20.000
+Nobody would ever go and lie about the possibility that a billion people could die from a spilled
+
+01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:22.000
+RNA.
+
+01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:29.000
+Nobody would ever go on and that knew anything about biology that a PhD in biology would
+
+01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:36.000
+go on on the internet and say that a billion people could get killed because RNA virus got
+
+01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:37.000
+out.
+
+01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:42.000
+No one would do that.
+
+01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:45.000
+Or fish and probably the smart thing to do.
+
+01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:46.000
+And there's the papers open access.
+
+01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:50.000
+And if you look at figure one, there's actually a really good, almost graphical abstract of
+
+01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:53.000
+what they're doing in the beginning of that figure.
+
+01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:59.000
+So the basic way these experiments go, they will edit the RNA and then they convert the
+
+01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:02.000
+products to DNA and sequence them to deep sequencing on them so they can see all the products
+
+01:50:02.000 --> 01:50:03.000
+that have been made.
+
+01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:08.000
+And they say we can make DNA splints that will capture different kinds of editing outcomes.
+
+01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:12.000
+So you could say if you want only 12 bases deleted, you could design your DNA splint to
+
+01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:14.000
+select for that or six bases or whatever.
+
+01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:15.000
+So you could pick it.
+
+01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:16.000
+All right.
+
+01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:17.000
+So how do they actually show this is working?
+
+01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:22.000
+They picked Sinbus virus, which is a plus-stranded RNA virus, 12.5 KB single strand RNA genome.
+
+01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:27.000
+And it's got a green fluorescent protein gene inserted near the three prime end.
+
+01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:29.000
+So in fact, the cells are going to be green.
+
+01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:30.000
+So they designed a guide RNA.
+
+01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:37.000
+Remember, they're going to make an RNA, which will hybridize to a part of the GFP RNA.
+
+01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:42.000
+And it's going to encode an amino acid that will disrupt the fluorescence.
+
+01:50:42.000 --> 01:50:44.000
+So they're going to wreck the light bulb.
+
+01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:45.000
+They're going to wreck the light bulb.
+
+01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:46.000
+They're going to change one amino acid, right?
+
+01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:47.000
+And there's no longer going to be green.
+
+01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:48.000
+It's going to be dark.
+
+01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:50.000
+All right.
+
+01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:54.000
+So they show that this guide RNA works on GFP RNA by itself.
+
+01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:57.000
+So they can get six or 12 bases excised.
+
+01:50:57.000 --> 01:51:00.000
+And then they take infectious viral RNA that they've extracted from cells.
+
+01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:06.000
+They incubate it with their nucleates, their CRISPR proteins and the RNA treated with T4,
+
+01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:08.000
+poly nucleotide kinase to put phosphate at the five prime end.
+
+01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:11.000
+And then they put their DNA splint in and put it in T4 RNA ligase.
+
+01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:17.000
+I don't even know if there's viral replication here, just the production of GFP protein.
+
+01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:24.000
+Because see, they're saying it is producing GFP-labeled virus here.
+
+01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:26.000
+Can you see my arrow?
+
+01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:35.000
+But there's no way that they can tell the difference between GFP-labeled virus and the production of GFP, the protein.
+
+01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:40.000
+If you look up glee-green fluorescent protein, which is derived from a jellyfish protein,
+
+01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:43.000
+you will find that it's not a small protein.
+
+01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:45.000
+It's huge.
+
+01:51:47.000 --> 01:51:54.000
+Cells that produce GFP forever tend to die because they get overloaded with this huge protein.
+
+01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:02.000
+So it's really interesting that again, it's almost like magic tricks are possible here.
+
+01:52:02.000 --> 01:52:12.000
+Because if you convince people in a laboratory that that green signal that you get when you shine the blue light on the cell culture
+
+01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:22.000
+is evidence of viral replication as opposed to the production of a protein that glows green,
+
+01:52:22.000 --> 01:52:25.000
+well, that's a pretty magic spell you're casting there.
+
+01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:34.000
+Because there is no evidence in this figure that viruses are being made except this cartoon right here in the right corner.
+
+01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:37.000
+There's no evidence at all.
+
+01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:44.000
+The only evidence that they have is that in this unedited version, the green protein gets produced and in the edited version,
+
+01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:53.000
+it doesn't get produced, which would be expected if you transfected a cell culture with RNA that was edited or not edited.
+
+01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:55.000
+That's incredible.
+
+01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:57.000
+Wow.
+
+01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:02.000
+So they're going to cut it specifically and ligate it together.
+
+01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:08.000
+And then they transfect this bulk edited RNA into cells and it's viral RNA now.
+
+01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:12.000
+So it's going to infect the cells and it's going to produce GFP and they see a reduction in GFP.
+
+01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:14.000
+See there he said it's viral RNA now.
+
+01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:17.000
+They transfect this RNA into cells.
+
+01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:19.000
+It's viral RNA now.
+
+01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:21.000
+The hell is he talking about?
+
+01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:23.000
+That was a total bait and switch.
+
+01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:25.000
+That was a total shell game there.
+
+01:53:26.000 --> 01:53:28.000
+There's no viruses in this.
+
+01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:31.000
+Just because they call it a sin V.
+
+01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:33.000
+It's an RNA.
+
+01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:35.000
+Listen.
+
+01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:41.000
+And then they transfect this bulk edited RNA into cells and it's viral RNA now.
+
+01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:46.000
+So it's going to infect the cells and it's going to produce GFP and they see a reduction in GFP when they've done the editing,
+
+01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:48.000
+consistent with breaking the light bulb.
+
+01:53:48.000 --> 01:53:51.000
+So viral means that it can be expressed or what?
+
+01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:53.000
+There's no RNA dependent polymerase.
+
+01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:54.000
+There's no making of viruses.
+
+01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:58.000
+There's just the GFP.
+
+01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:02.000
+And whatever viral genome was there, what are we talking about?
+
+01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:06.000
+Did we look for viruses being produced?
+
+01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:09.000
+Did you see any viruses produced in that figure?
+
+01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:10.000
+Holy crap.
+
+01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:11.000
+This is amazing.
+
+01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:13.000
+So as Alan said, everybody got that?
+
+01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:14.000
+Basically they can edit.
+
+01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:19.000
+They can edit the RNA and change amino acid by this approach, which is pretty cool, which you can do last week.
+
+01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:20.000
+Yes.
+
+01:54:20.000 --> 01:54:21.000
+Well, actually they published this.
+
+01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:23.000
+Well, no, I guess that was still this week.
+
+01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:24.000
+So you're right.
+
+01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:25.000
+They could do this for the past.
+
+01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:27.000
+I don't know how long they've been working on it, right?
+
+01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:28.000
+It's pretty cool.
+
+01:54:28.000 --> 01:54:29.000
+Okay.
+
+01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:30.000
+So then they say, what about deletions?
+
+01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:31.000
+Can we make deletions?
+
+01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:33.000
+Because here they've changed the single amino acid.
+
+01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:39.000
+Again, they've done it by putting an RNA in there with the DNA splint so that it gets ligated in.
+
+01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:42.000
+So now they do this.
+
+01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:49.000
+They again take viral genomes and do their CRISPR and do the deletions and they then extract RNA from infected cells and they sequence them.
+
+01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:54.000
+And they have a DNA splint designed to make a 12 nucleotide deletion.
+
+01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:55.000
+And they do see that.
+
+01:54:55.000 --> 01:55:01.000
+34% of the RNA genomes have that deletion, but they also see 18 base deletions, 24 or 30 and 6, interestingly.
+
+01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:02.000
+So it's not perfect.
+
+01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:06.000
+These DNA splints are allowing a little bit of flexibility.
+
+01:55:06.000 --> 01:55:16.000
+Then they pick plaques, dear to our heart, and they get RNA from 11 wells that had CPE that virus is reproducing, but they're negative for GFPs, so they've been edited.
+
+01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:20.000
+For the genomes to have a 12 nucleotide deletion, which is what they selected.
+
+01:55:20.000 --> 01:55:21.000
+Okay, so there we heard something.
+
+01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:31.000
+So the way they do this is they select for viruses that show CPE, cytopathic effects, but aren't green.
+
+01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:34.000
+So they would have been edited because then the green is broken.
+
+01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:41.000
+The protein of GFP is broken, so it doesn't, it's got a deletion so that it doesn't fluoresce anymore.
+
+01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:50.000
+And so that's interesting because when they do that, then they find groups of viruses that seem to have multiples of that delete deletion.
+
+01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:53.000
+So again, it's editing the genome.
+
+01:55:53.000 --> 01:55:57.000
+It's not surprising that they can apply these tools to RNA.
+
+01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:05.000
+And it's not surprising how they do it, which is used starting with a pure stock of cloned RNA.
+
+01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:15.000
+If you start with a pure stock of cloned RNA, you're starting where every other infectious RNA article has ever started with an infectious clone.
+
+01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:25.000
+And only sufficient quantities of an infectious clone can explain what happened if what happened needs a better explanation than lying.
+
+01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:28.000
+And that's a huge if still.
+
+01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:33.000
+The reason why I believe it's still a huge if is because of how many people
+
+01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:55.000
+were parading around their credentials at the beginning of the pandemic that weren't necessarily related to epidemiology or epidemics or infectious disease in any way, but were convinced that this was a worst case scenario likely a bio weapon yada yada yada.
+
+01:56:56.000 --> 01:57:03.000
+That's the reason why I still think the window for is being one great big giant lie should be left open.
+
+01:57:03.000 --> 01:57:12.000
+If it was just a bunch of people scrambling to figure out what was going on and in earnest working together to solve this problem.
+
+01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:19.000
+And I saw no evidence of liars, cheaters, grifters, stealers, backstabbers.
+
+01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:28.000
+Then I would say that, wow, you might be dealing with some real biology here. There might be a real problem. They might have really put clones everywhere.
+
+01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:45.000
+But when I realized the extent to which the depth and the breadth of these actors and the extent to which they're willing to go in this campaign against other people as opposed to just fighting the truth.
+
+01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:54.000
+I realized that the only explanation for that many people to be around is that there is a lie to protect.
+
+01:57:54.000 --> 01:57:59.000
+There's no lie to protect. Then there's no reason to behave the way that these people behave.
+
+01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:14.000
+There's no reason for my chat to be filled the way it is except for there is a lie to be protected and we are very close if not having already uncovered it.
+
+01:58:14.000 --> 01:58:17.000
+Welcome to the real world.
+
+01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:20.000
+And the rest have a mixture of 1218 and 24 base deletion.
+
+01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:27.000
+So you have to look, you have to search for the virus that you want. If you want a 12 base deletion, it can assume that they all have 12 base deletions by this technique.
+
+01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:31.000
+And maybe it'll get better. I don't know, but it's got a little bit of flexibility.
+
+01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:36.000
+Yeah, I sort of, I think it's interesting that most of the numbers they're using here are divisible by three, so they aren't giving the frame shifts.
+
+01:58:36.000 --> 01:58:43.000
+And I wonder what would happen if you were trying, if they use something that was five, would they get a frame shift basically every time, whether it was five or 10, and that might be a little more complete.
+
+01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:52.000
+You mean if they designed a DNA splint to do that? Yeah, to give them a five or 10 deletion, even if you got half, it would still be a 10, you get five, and you're still making a frame shift that way.
+
+01:58:52.000 --> 01:59:01.000
+Okay, so the last experiment they do, can we insert a sequence into the genome? So far, we've changed the single amino acid, right? But that's not the only thing we'd like to be able to do.
+
+01:59:01.000 --> 01:59:03.000
+We'd like to delete what you can do with this.
+
+01:59:03.000 --> 01:59:06.000
+So you could take polyvirus and delete it an entire gene.
+
+01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:12.000
+Of course, it wouldn't be infectious, but you could do that in theory. But what if you wanted to put a different gene in? We do that a lot with infectious DNAs, right?
+
+01:59:12.000 --> 01:59:21.000
+So they take a cymbis virus with blue fluorescent protein in it, and you can make it into a green fluorescent.
+
+01:59:21.000 --> 01:59:29.000
+And so here again, you're starting with what? You're starting with a recombinant cymbis BFP virus.
+
+01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:40.000
+Recombinant means that it is a clone that was started in DNA, grown in bacteria, converted to RNA, and then sent out as a product.
+
+01:59:40.000 --> 01:59:45.000
+Or it means that they did the same thing in their lab.
+
+01:59:45.000 --> 01:59:50.000
+That's what it means. That's what it means. That's what it means. You have to see it. It's just a clone.
+
+01:59:50.000 --> 02:00:04.000
+They started with an infectious clone of this RNA, and then they used a CRISPR protein or enzyme combination to change it and lo and behold, it works. Big deal.
+
+02:00:04.000 --> 02:00:19.000
+What it does is it disguises in plain sight the fact that they don't have RNA viruses that behave like they told you on TV that just replicate and grow.
+
+02:00:19.000 --> 02:00:23.000
+They don't have those.
+
+02:00:23.000 --> 02:00:31.000
+Please understand what we're dealing with here. We've got to break free, and these people are not going to help us break free.
+
+02:00:31.000 --> 02:00:36.000
+They're actually keeping everybody trapped. They're keeping themselves trapped, it seems.
+
+02:00:36.000 --> 02:00:50.000
+It's hard for me to put these people in a bad place except for maybe this one, because it would be very easy from my own experience as a neurobiologist.
+
+02:00:50.000 --> 02:01:03.000
+It would be very easy from the pressure of what it takes to get to the place where this young woman is, this young woman is.
+
+02:01:03.000 --> 02:01:08.000
+It takes a lot of accepting what you're told.
+
+02:01:08.000 --> 02:01:21.000
+It's a lot of time when you've got to decide what to read, and it takes a very long time to get to the stage where you know enough and have read enough to start to be critical.
+
+02:01:21.000 --> 02:01:44.000
+And with regard to the immune system because of the absolute overwhelming lack of proper investigation because of the overwhelming funding thrown at these bad models of immunology, antibodies, and serial prevalence, and injectable vaccines,
+
+02:01:45.000 --> 02:02:02.000
+that we have come to a state where our understanding of the immune system is such that this might be the state of the art for a lot of people because there is no literature that you can dive into that will admit that they don't understand.
+
+02:02:02.000 --> 02:02:07.000
+They just work under the premises that they're working under like that paper we listened to in the beginning.
+
+02:02:07.000 --> 02:02:10.000
+This one.
+
+02:02:10.000 --> 02:02:13.000
+I'm going to wrap this up.
+
+02:02:13.000 --> 02:02:15.000
+Oops.
+
+02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:18.000
+This paper.
+
+02:02:18.000 --> 02:02:26.000
+Where really what they looked at was they look at neutralizing antibodies and they look for a few other things that they don't really see.
+
+02:02:26.000 --> 02:02:29.000
+They hear its peptide array mapping of linear epitopes.
+
+02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:44.000
+But the linear epitopes are exactly what don't matter because the quaternary epitopes, the epitopes that are aimed at the three dimensional structure that doesn't necessarily relate to the linear sequence of the protein are where the rubber hits the road.
+
+02:02:44.000 --> 02:02:55.000
+And this paper unintentionally revealed that and left the door open wide for a million other explanations for why these animals survived.
+
+02:02:55.000 --> 02:03:08.000
+That because of the nature of the immune mythology, we don't even consider because there were antibodies in figure one and the antibody and the animals in figure six survived.
+
+02:03:08.000 --> 02:03:16.000
+And so the animals that got sick in this figure must have died because they didn't have antibodies right.
+
+02:03:16.000 --> 02:03:22.000
+And when when you're going up into the field and everybody in the room agrees.
+
+02:03:22.000 --> 02:03:29.000
+All the old people in the back room are answering asking questions related to this and it all seems like everybody agrees.
+
+02:03:29.000 --> 02:03:34.000
+The illusion of consensus is strong.
+
+02:03:34.000 --> 02:03:38.000
+And why do you think they have five people on here for a journal club?
+
+02:03:38.000 --> 02:03:49.000
+It's for the illusion of consensus. There's almost no way that without us being together here and having worked as long as we have together.
+
+02:03:49.000 --> 02:03:56.000
+Would we have the confidence to question these five authorities on this immunology?
+
+02:03:56.000 --> 02:04:04.000
+But at some moment you see that even consensus doesn't make dumb smart.
+
+02:04:04.000 --> 02:04:16.000
+And the idea that we can distill immunology down to the presence of neutralizing antibodies or quaternary antibodies, there might be other stuff too, is ridiculous.
+
+02:04:16.000 --> 02:04:27.000
+But they're still doing it. Three years in. No more nuance, no more details, no more nothing.
+
+02:04:27.000 --> 02:04:39.000
+And I thought it was important to point out because it's really when we take things for granted, you know, and then we don't see them for what they are.
+
+02:04:39.000 --> 02:04:46.000
+We don't, you know, people say, well, this is nature communications. I mean, look at this set up they've got here.
+
+02:04:46.000 --> 02:04:56.000
+They're immunizing and then they're challenging the animals and the animals die and they have these, you know, fancy figures that make it really hard.
+
+02:04:56.000 --> 02:05:01.000
+You know, what's the absorbance mean here?
+
+02:05:01.000 --> 02:05:08.000
+I mean, how do we, how do we explain the serial dilution and what this, what these graphs mean to people at home?
+
+02:05:08.000 --> 02:05:11.000
+They didn't even bother.
+
+02:05:11.000 --> 02:05:22.000
+What about this one, the mapping of linear epitopes? Why didn't they explain then that this whole thing, that we do all the time that we've been doing for decades?
+
+02:05:22.000 --> 02:05:26.000
+Well, let's look at the epitopes based on the linear sequence.
+
+02:05:26.000 --> 02:05:33.000
+The little fragments of the linear sequence never realizing that we were probably looking at bunk.
+
+02:05:33.000 --> 02:05:44.000
+And then if we were going to do this scan, we would need some way of identifying all the possible three-dimensional nonlinear
+
+02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:54.000
+quaternary epitopes that are possible to functionally attack a spike protein or identify it to the immune system appropriately.
+
+02:05:54.000 --> 02:06:01.000
+Can anyone else see how this very quickly combinatorially expands into infinity?
+
+02:06:01.000 --> 02:06:08.000
+And so the reason why I have this backdrop right now is because this is Google Fold or Alpha Fold.
+
+02:06:08.000 --> 02:06:16.000
+And it's supposed to be the video that announces that they figured out how proteins fold.
+
+02:06:16.000 --> 02:06:20.000
+Or why would that be important? They certainly haven't figured it out yet.
+
+02:06:20.000 --> 02:06:27.000
+But they would like you to believe that they understand how proteins fold so that they can start to address questions like this.
+
+02:06:27.000 --> 02:06:37.000
+Where the linear epitopes don't actually mean anything, but before Google Fold or Alpha Fold, there was no chance for us to figure it out.
+
+02:06:37.000 --> 02:06:46.000
+But now that Google's cracked it, we're going to make real vaccines this time.
+
+02:06:46.000 --> 02:06:50.000
+And so they went through all of this stuff showing there's no difference between animals.
+
+02:06:50.000 --> 02:07:02.000
+There's nothing that they have to find that expresses or adequately explains why the animals survive.
+
+02:07:02.000 --> 02:07:10.000
+It's a pity. Then we went to CRISPR-based engineering of RNA viruses and we talked about making the PR RNA.
+
+02:07:10.000 --> 02:07:24.000
+And Vincent Rancin-Yello claimed the title that I've been trying to give him, which is really the guy that invented it with David Baltimore.
+
+02:07:24.000 --> 02:07:34.000
+If you've ever seen an interview with David Baltimore, you know that he's not a particularly hospitable man when it comes to questions about viruses anyway.
+
+02:07:34.000 --> 02:07:39.000
+So then we talked about RNA and changing RNA, but we're starting with a pure aversion.
+
+02:07:39.000 --> 02:07:45.000
+And so that's, again, here it is, pictures of virus. Look at these pictures of virus.
+
+02:07:45.000 --> 02:07:47.000
+That must mean there's really virus in here.
+
+02:07:47.000 --> 02:07:53.000
+It can't just be green for less than protein being excluded as exosomes.
+
+02:07:53.000 --> 02:07:58.000
+It can't just be over expression of green protein leading to psychopathic effects.
+
+02:07:58.000 --> 02:08:12.000
+No, that couldn't be. And indeed, it doesn't seem to be the case because they have some psychopathic effects with unedited or sorry, edited virus that doesn't appear to turn green.
+
+02:08:12.000 --> 02:08:23.000
+So all that means is what? It means that that RNA is also toxic. That RNA is also able to cause psychopathic effects. It's not that surprising.
+
+02:08:23.000 --> 02:08:33.000
+You're putting pure RNA onto a cell culture, whether or not it makes green fluorescent protein doesn't really necessarily matter. It's not surprising.
+
+02:08:34.000 --> 02:08:47.000
+And so this paper is about editing RNA, but it actually reveals the weaknesses of this virology, especially coronavirus biology and how it's done.
+
+02:08:47.000 --> 02:08:56.000
+And how much effort is necessary to gloss over the immunology that they're talking about so that you don't make this connection in your head.
+
+02:08:56.000 --> 02:09:05.000
+That you don't actually hear what they're saying is perfectly confirming more or less what we've been talking about for the last year.
+
+02:09:05.000 --> 02:09:10.000
+That RNA viruses are very easy to work out in the laboratory.
+
+02:09:10.000 --> 02:09:19.000
+And until we realize we could make DNA copies of them to generate RNA clones, it was virtually impossible to work on them.
+
+02:09:19.000 --> 02:09:31.000
+And now that we have these CRISPR editing things, we can even start to more aggressively manipulate them, but it's a misnomer. It's an illusion.
+
+02:09:31.000 --> 02:09:36.000
+Why is it an illusion? Because we can print the DNA.
+
+02:09:36.000 --> 02:09:44.000
+Because we can make synthetic DNA. However we want to. We don't need this. We don't need this.
+
+02:09:44.000 --> 02:09:53.000
+It's like, oh, it's real cool. We don't need this for viruses. We can just make the RNA from scratch. Right Vincent?
+
+02:09:53.000 --> 02:09:59.000
+So isn't it weird then? Why are they talking about this like it's a big deal?
+
+02:09:59.000 --> 02:10:10.000
+If we can make viruses from scratch by just typing on a keyboard and then hitting synthesize.
+
+02:10:10.000 --> 02:10:21.000
+Because that's for sure. And if we can't do it quite with the fidelity we need now, it's going to be there in four years or five years because that's the technology that's improving.
+
+02:10:21.000 --> 02:10:26.000
+That's what Vincent Ransom Yellow makes the argument about how we're going to improve the RNA.
+
+02:10:26.000 --> 02:10:36.000
+Technology is to make synthetic RNA, manufacture it using printing kind of printing techniques rather than so you get perfect purity.
+
+02:10:36.000 --> 02:10:46.000
+They've already talked about that. That's how they're going to do the specialized medicine stuff.
+
+02:10:46.000 --> 02:10:59.000
+So anyway, they told us about a dangerous virus and then they had a bunch of people come around and tell us stories about where this virus came from and what it means for our future pandemic potential.
+
+02:11:00.000 --> 02:11:13.000
+I mean, this is Robert Malone on a podcast with the original with the original press secretary of Donald Trump. I mean, are you kidding? I mean, are you joking?
+
+02:11:13.000 --> 02:11:16.000
+Standing up your knees buckle.
+
+02:11:16.000 --> 02:11:24.000
+And I've been trying to make this a point that consensus is like track laughter.
+
+02:11:25.000 --> 02:11:32.000
+There's a soup stand. He's always raving. I finally got a chance to go there the other day and I tell you this.
+
+02:11:32.000 --> 02:11:47.000
+Seinfeld isn't funny without the track laughter. At least it's not nearly as funny as it would be as with the track laughter because this sense of consensus that other people think this is funny too is missing.
+
+02:11:47.000 --> 02:11:59.000
+And the Vincent Rancin yellow was to talk to you about viruses. The consensus would be missing, but when five people go, yeah, that's right. That makes sense. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right, Glenn. Yep.
+
+02:11:59.000 --> 02:12:04.000
+The consensus bamboozles.
+
+02:12:04.000 --> 02:12:12.000
+And even when there's little incongruities or when it seems like it's not quite right, the consensus bamboozles.
+
+02:12:12.000 --> 02:12:14.000
+Listen when the consensus is removed.
+
+02:12:14.000 --> 02:12:16.000
+You will be stunned.
+
+02:12:16.000 --> 02:12:17.000
+Stunned by soup?
+
+02:12:17.000 --> 02:12:22.000
+You can't eat this soup standing up your knees buckle.
+
+02:12:22.000 --> 02:12:29.000
+There's only one caveat. The guy who runs a place with a little temperamental, especially about the ordering procedure.
+
+02:12:29.000 --> 02:12:33.000
+He secretly referred to as the soup Nazi.
+
+02:12:33.000 --> 02:12:35.000
+What happens if you don't order right?
+
+02:12:35.000 --> 02:12:37.000
+He yells and you don't get your soup.
+
+02:12:37.000 --> 02:12:38.000
+What?
+
+02:12:38.000 --> 02:12:40.000
+Just follow the ordering procedure and you will be fine.
+
+02:12:41.000 --> 02:12:43.000
+Let's go over that again.
+
+02:12:43.000 --> 02:12:47.000
+As you walk in the place, move immediately to your right.
+
+02:12:47.000 --> 02:12:50.000
+The main thing is to keep the line moving.
+
+02:12:50.000 --> 02:12:53.000
+Hold out your money. Speak your soup in a loud clear voice.
+
+02:12:53.000 --> 02:12:55.000
+Step to the left and receive the right.
+
+02:12:55.000 --> 02:13:01.000
+Very important. Not to embellish on your order. No extraneous comment. No question. No compliment.
+
+02:13:01.000 --> 02:13:04.000
+Oh, look, look, look. I'm really scared.
+
+02:13:05.000 --> 02:13:09.000
+Medium turkey chili.
+
+02:13:09.000 --> 02:13:14.000
+Medium crab bisque.
+
+02:13:14.000 --> 02:13:23.000
+You didn't get any bread. Just forget it. Let it go.
+
+02:13:23.000 --> 02:13:26.000
+Excuse me, I think we forgot my bread.
+
+02:13:26.000 --> 02:13:28.000
+Bread, $2 extra.
+
+02:13:29.000 --> 02:13:31.000
+Everyone in front of me got free bread.
+
+02:13:31.000 --> 02:13:32.000
+You want bread?
+
+02:13:32.000 --> 02:13:33.000
+Yes, please.
+
+02:13:33.000 --> 02:13:35.000
+$3.
+
+02:13:35.000 --> 02:13:38.000
+Nothing for you.
+
+02:13:38.000 --> 02:13:45.000
+No, it's funny, but it's not nearly as funny when there's an audience full of laughter, right?
+
+02:13:45.000 --> 02:13:51.000
+And the view is not nearly as convincing if there aren't four ladies all going, yeah, that's right.
+
+02:13:51.000 --> 02:13:56.000
+Twiv is not as convincing. Tim Poole is not as convincing.
+
+02:13:56.000 --> 02:14:01.000
+Even Joe Rogan is not as convincing unless he's talking to somebody else.
+
+02:14:01.000 --> 02:14:18.000
+That's why the PBS NewsHour is not always just talking to you, but is also talking with other people so that they can create this consensus of understanding that you feel very enticed to adopt.
+
+02:14:18.000 --> 02:14:38.000
+Just like when somebody tells a joke and you don't get it, you tend to laugh along because maybe you'll get it in a second or maybe somebody's going to say something that'll clue you in and then you'll get it or maybe you'll be embarrassed
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+02:14:38.000 --> 02:14:43.000
+because you didn't get it so you'll laugh along.
+
+02:14:43.000 --> 02:14:54.000
+And that's no different than the pressure to go along with the TV when the TV says, if you don't take this shot, you're endangering, you don't even love your neighbor then.
+
+02:14:54.000 --> 02:15:07.000
+If you don't take this shot, you don't love your neighbor is a pretty malevolent thing to say across channels and creating a consensus.
+
+02:15:07.000 --> 02:15:31.000
+A consensus beyond a little talk show with three people, but a consensus across channels and a consensus across people on this device, a consensus across podcasts, a consensus among people that disagree.
+
+02:15:31.000 --> 02:15:35.000
+It's a magic spell, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+02:15:35.000 --> 02:15:41.000
+And the only way to get out of it is to learn biology.
+
+02:15:41.000 --> 02:15:47.000
+You can see it because the players that are playing along ignore these things.
+
+02:15:47.000 --> 02:15:58.000
+They don't explain the PCR and why it's so diabolical that we had 250 different products in America during 2020 and 21.
+
+02:15:58.000 --> 02:16:15.000
+They don't explain the masking and what it does to people and why it was so diabolical to mask children, especially the people who advocated for masks because this could be a worst case scenario that could be prevented by masks.
+
+02:16:15.000 --> 02:16:25.000
+They don't talk about the fact that we have new data that shows that in 2020 there was no spread in New York City. They won't talk about it.
+
+02:16:25.000 --> 02:16:37.000
+Because if they talk about it, they will have to admit that when they said that the New York City could be sign of a worst case scenario and a billion people could die, they might have scared people.
+
+02:16:37.000 --> 02:16:41.000
+They might have scared people into dividing.
+
+02:16:41.000 --> 02:16:51.000
+They might have scared people into ostracizing their friends. They might have scared people into believing that a transfection might be better than getting this gain a function virus.
+
+02:16:52.000 --> 02:16:59.000
+So they can't admit that Jessica Hockett has data. They can't admit that Denny Rancor has data.
+
+02:16:59.000 --> 02:17:17.000
+Because if they do, then they will start to have, you will start to see through them and you will start to realize that they were part of ceding the worst case scenario narrative which scared everyone, confused everyone and instilled doubt in everyone.
+
+02:17:17.000 --> 02:17:21.000
+So that the rolling out of the shot was possible.
+
+02:17:21.000 --> 02:17:27.000
+And so yeah, it's great that there were different doses and they confused us by having placebo lots and all this other stuff.
+
+02:17:27.000 --> 02:17:33.000
+But if you had spoke out on time, there would have been no shot at all.
+
+02:17:33.000 --> 02:17:44.000
+If you spoke out on time, there would have been no need for the shot. We would have seen through the protocols before the people in 2021 were killed.
+
+02:17:44.000 --> 02:17:47.000
+These people didn't speak up and they're still not speaking up now.
+
+02:17:47.000 --> 02:17:54.000
+And I think it's because they might not be good people. Because good people would just say, wow, I can't believe I made the mistake.
+
+02:17:54.000 --> 02:17:56.000
+Like I have.
+
+02:17:56.000 --> 02:18:01.000
+Like Mark Hewson-Tonic, Mark Koolak has said.
+
+02:18:01.000 --> 02:18:10.000
+Mark Koolak has videos where he's saying the same thing that everybody else did that George Webb said that some person took it to Wuhan.
+
+02:18:11.000 --> 02:18:16.000
+Or brought it back from Wuhan. We were all on board.
+
+02:18:16.000 --> 02:18:19.000
+The question is why?
+
+02:18:19.000 --> 02:18:31.000
+And I think that there were actors, there were people that were encouraged to get that fear of frustration, fear, uncertainty and doubt going.
+
+02:18:32.000 --> 02:18:37.000
+And they're making it continue by not telling this story.
+
+02:18:37.000 --> 02:18:52.000
+And just talking about lab leak and lab cover up and dangerous spike protein and dangerous LNP and dangerous DNA and SV 40 and variants and immune escape.
+
+02:18:52.000 --> 02:18:57.000
+None of which are on this list.
+
+02:18:57.000 --> 02:19:08.000
+And so the crime of 2020 and 2021 is going to go on unsolved because as Robert Malone said, it's 5th generation warfare and you have no chance of figuring out who did it.
+
+02:19:08.000 --> 02:19:16.000
+Yes, Robert Malone said that several times, most of the time while he was in Europe, Stockholm and other places, but he's always said it.
+
+02:19:16.000 --> 02:19:22.000
+That's what's so awful about 5th generation warfare. You can never find it.
+
+02:19:22.000 --> 02:19:26.000
+And so I believe that a bunch of people are committed to this lie.
+
+02:19:26.000 --> 02:19:33.000
+And I believe it's if there was any biology involved in the molecular signal, it had to have been an infectious clone.
+
+02:19:33.000 --> 02:19:40.000
+And I think Twiv and their program from this week actually lends credence to that idea.
+
+02:19:40.000 --> 02:19:46.000
+And I think it's much easier to lie than it is to orchestrate a biological event over three years.
+
+02:19:46.000 --> 02:19:58.000
+And if their goal is to invert sovereignty to permissions, then it has really nothing to do with biology except for collecting your data, which we already know is the plan.
+
+02:19:58.000 --> 02:20:07.000
+So they lied to you about this stuff in order to invert this permission system.
+
+02:20:07.000 --> 02:20:22.000
+And so, you know, laboratory, bad cave zone, no, this doesn't matter. All those, all those hypotheses are united by the idea that something wasn't here before and then showed up in 2019.
+
+02:20:22.000 --> 02:20:27.000
+And that's what we're tracking around the world.
+
+02:20:27.000 --> 02:20:32.000
+And that is impossible.
+
+02:20:33.000 --> 02:20:44.000
+And that's the reason why I don't believe in either of those two ideas because they all rely on a point release and worldwide spread continuously for years.
+
+02:20:44.000 --> 02:20:49.000
+Those are that's a false narrative. It has to be.
+
+02:20:49.000 --> 02:20:54.000
+And that's why I say conflated background signal because it doesn't matter if they put it there.
+
+02:20:54.000 --> 02:21:03.000
+If it was there, or if they put something there that they could then pretend was that other thing.
+
+02:21:03.000 --> 02:21:05.000
+That's what's happening here.
+
+02:21:05.000 --> 02:21:07.000
+I'm sure of it.
+
+02:21:07.000 --> 02:21:11.000
+And it doesn't matter whether it's an endemic background coronavirus.
+
+02:21:12.000 --> 02:21:25.000
+Protocols were murdered and transfection is not medicine. It doesn't matter if it wasn't infectious clone release because protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine. It doesn't matter if it was a transfection agent.
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+02:21:25.000 --> 02:21:28.000
+Or anthrax spores.
+
+02:21:28.000 --> 02:21:40.000
+There was a conflated background signal that allowed the protocols to be murder and transfection is not medicine and it never will be.
+
+02:21:41.000 --> 02:21:48.000
+And that's why this is insufficient because it distracts you from the real molecular biology that we know they can do.
+
+02:21:48.000 --> 02:21:54.000
+They can definitely make pure RNA and DNA and they can definitely aerosolize that.
+
+02:21:54.000 --> 02:21:59.000
+And the virology or the no virus people don't want to talk about that.
+
+02:21:59.000 --> 02:22:04.000
+Aerosolized infectious clones distributed by the kilo kiloton.
+
+02:22:04.000 --> 02:22:09.000
+Even if that's what they did, these guys would say that that's a lie.
+
+02:22:09.000 --> 02:22:13.000
+And I'm not saying that's what they did, but that technology is all available.
+
+02:22:13.000 --> 02:22:18.000
+If they wanted to do it, they could do that.
+
+02:22:18.000 --> 02:22:22.000
+And so I just think it's best to think about it as them lying.
+
+02:22:22.000 --> 02:22:29.000
+And the most likely lie is that they're just conflating a background signal.
+
+02:22:29.000 --> 02:22:35.000
+And the idea is to inject fear, uncertainty and doubt around this background signal
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+02:22:35.000 --> 02:22:42.000
+and around its interpretation as a spreading pathogen so that nobody can escape.
+
+02:22:42.000 --> 02:22:48.000
+And more importantly, as Robert Malone so aptly said, so that nobody knows who to blame.
+
+02:22:48.000 --> 02:22:52.000
+Because nobody's really acting entirely in bad faith.
+
+02:22:52.000 --> 02:22:56.000
+They're just omitting things. They're just ignoring things.
+
+02:22:56.000 --> 02:23:03.000
+They're not acknowledging things. They're confusing things.
+
+02:23:03.000 --> 02:23:08.000
+And in doing so, they've been able to change the way we think about how respiratory disease works
+
+02:23:08.000 --> 02:23:14.000
+and they've changed the way we think about how our immune system responds to that respiratory disease.
+
+02:23:14.000 --> 02:23:19.000
+They've changed the way we think about all cause mortality and how to talk about it,
+
+02:23:19.000 --> 02:23:26.000
+how we don't and attribute it to different causes, when it should have been a three-year lesson
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+02:23:26.000 --> 02:23:32.000
+in all cause mortality and how to attribute it to what caused it.
+
+02:23:32.000 --> 02:23:36.000
+And they changed the way we think about immunization and vaccination in immunity
+
+02:23:36.000 --> 02:23:42.000
+because they want us to adopt this super-simplification of the immune response
+
+02:23:42.000 --> 02:23:46.000
+so that the nature papers like the one that they watched on Twiv
+
+02:23:46.000 --> 02:23:52.000
+end up seeming like, wow, everything is hunky-dory, we can use RNA to augment the immune system
+
+02:23:52.000 --> 02:24:00.000
+because look, guinea pigs that have antibodies don't get sick.
+
+02:24:00.000 --> 02:24:06.000
+And by changing the way that we think about these things, they were able to murder people.
+
+02:24:06.000 --> 02:24:12.000
+They were able to get doctors and nurses to effectively murder people, thinking that they were helping them
+
+02:24:12.000 --> 02:24:15.000
+or that they were doing what they were supposed to do.
+
+02:24:15.000 --> 02:24:19.000
+Because there's a novel virus, we don't know what to do.
+
+02:24:19.000 --> 02:24:22.000
+CDC says do this, I'm doing it.
+
+02:24:22.000 --> 02:24:27.000
+And doc, whatever says that if we don't do this, then we might be liable.
+
+02:24:27.000 --> 02:24:34.000
+But if we do what the CDC tells us, we're not any, we have no liability, so do it or you're fired.
+
+02:24:34.000 --> 02:24:38.000
+That's how this happened, sorry.
+
+02:24:38.000 --> 02:24:42.000
+It wasn't because we did this because there was an especially dangerous virus
+
+02:24:42.000 --> 02:24:47.000
+with an especially dangerous spike protein rolling around the earth like wildfire.
+
+02:24:47.000 --> 02:24:51.000
+No matter what they told us.
+
+02:24:51.000 --> 02:24:56.000
+That's what this slide means, I don't know why that's in there again, I apologize for that.
+
+02:24:56.000 --> 02:25:03.000
+We are at a time point when the population is going to plateau and inevitably decline.
+
+02:25:04.000 --> 02:25:15.000
+And they have this belief that artificial intelligence someday will be able to solve the mystery of our sacredness, the sacredness of life.
+
+02:25:15.000 --> 02:25:25.000
+How the genetic code is somehow related to the manifestation of this pattern integrity that is us.
+
+02:25:25.000 --> 02:25:37.000
+And they think that if they feed enough data from enough pattern integrity complete with genomes and as much medical data from their lifetime as possible,
+
+02:25:37.000 --> 02:25:54.000
+that eventually an artificial intelligence computer will be able to solve the mystery of how a DNA molecule is somehow translated or encodes the pattern integrity that we become as mature humans.
+
+02:25:54.000 --> 02:26:00.000
+The pattern integrity that forms inside of the womb of a mom.
+
+02:26:00.000 --> 02:26:03.000
+That's their belief.
+
+02:26:03.000 --> 02:26:13.000
+And in order for them to pursue this belief that we're going to become God someday by learning how to build ourselves, they need children to believe that.
+
+02:26:13.000 --> 02:26:32.000
+So much so that they accept that it's their duty to society to give up their data because they believe that one day that data will lead to cures and happiness and less suffering.
+
+02:26:32.000 --> 02:26:43.000
+It's that malevolent mythology that is the the sugar coating over the top of this poison pill.
+
+02:26:43.000 --> 02:26:55.000
+This poison pill that is this immunomethology that they are trapping us in that there's gain of function viruses and only vaccines will save you from them.
+
+02:26:55.000 --> 02:27:00.000
+It's spectacular.
+
+02:27:00.000 --> 02:27:14.000
+But we're on it. And we are communicating in different ways these days. I'm actually not doing as much communicating as I used to do because it's toxic in a lot of those places.
+
+02:27:14.000 --> 02:27:18.000
+But I am trying to get more and more on GigaOM.Bio when I have time.
+
+02:27:18.000 --> 02:27:22.000
+And so I would invite you to engage me there.
+
+02:27:22.000 --> 02:27:32.000
+But also you can find an email for me. You can find a telephone number on GigaOMbiological.com that you can leave a voicemail. Not very many people do it.
+
+02:27:32.000 --> 02:27:35.000
+But you can.
+
+02:27:35.000 --> 02:27:40.000
+And I don't know what to say other than thank you for joining me. I hope you enjoyed it. I hope it was useful.
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+02:27:40.000 --> 02:27:45.000
+I'm going to be here every day because that's how we win. Steady pressure.
+
+02:27:45.000 --> 02:27:55.000
+We're going to work harder than them. So let's just keep working. Keep sharing the stream. If you want to support, it would be greatly appreciated.
+
+02:27:55.000 --> 02:28:02.000
+But it's definitely not necessary. I really would rather have you share the work more than anything else.
+
+02:28:02.000 --> 02:28:09.000
+But there are plans in the future to become independent. And if it's possible.
+
+02:28:09.000 --> 02:28:21.000
+And so that would be only you guys making that possible. So if someone wants to donate, you know, half a million dollars for me to go independent of everybody.
+
+02:28:21.000 --> 02:28:27.000
+And just report biology. Feel free to do so.
+
+02:28:27.000 --> 02:28:33.000
+Anyway, thanks very much for joining me guys. It's been really fun. I hope it was useful.
+
+02:28:33.000 --> 02:28:40.000
+Transfection is not immunization. Intramuscular injection is not a means of immunization. Stop all transfections in humans.
+
+02:28:40.000 --> 02:28:45.000
+Because they're trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary.
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+They actually colored that
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+building blue to honor Pfizer's new new booster shot that's not that's not a
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+joke that's really why that's up on the screen ladies and gentlemen just in case
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+you were wondering that blue building is really to celebrate Pfizer's new
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+booster shot.
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+And all the time it was Wiggles who made that black knight come to life and
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+there was no legend. Positively not Wiggles just used the story to cover up
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+my mysterious disappearance somehow he managed to get into the armor down at
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+the train station and like on the way to the museum he made you disappear.
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+Mhm Mhm Mhm Whoa Sexy's bat bat bat bat bat bat bat bat bat
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+That screw before you.
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+Good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is Giga Home Biological and High-Resistance
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+01:58.200 --> 02:07.480
+Low Noise Information Brief brought to you by a biologist the 19th of September, 2023.
+
+02:07.480 --> 02:13.560
+We are still trying to break through this, this controlled spectrum of debate around
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+gain of function viruses and pandemics and public health and data.
+
+02:23.400 --> 02:28.240
+There was no spread in New York City, there was no real threat except for infectious clones,
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+placebo batches have made everything much more confusing and transfection and healthy
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+animals is dumb, I gotta get the timing of this song down a little bit, the song is
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+a little bit harder to time than the ABC Monday Night Football because I have 14 more seconds
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+in that one and it enables me to get here faster.
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+As you can hear, I'm a little bit short of breath sometimes, I'm not really sure why
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+03:01.480 --> 03:09.240
+that is, it's a combination of not riding my bike and other bad habits I'm sure, but we're working
+
+03:09.240 --> 03:14.280
+on that, we're working on a little more exercise and a little more movement, it's working at home
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+03:14.280 --> 03:20.360
+is not necessarily the ideal thing, you can move from one floor to the next floor and that can be
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+your existence for the entire week, so you gotta be careful as they've locked us in our houses
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+with this new normal, not to get trapped in that, don't take the bait on social media, on TV of
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+03:36.280 --> 03:43.640
+course is our evening message always, if you forgot or missed it, last night we covered a Twiv episode,
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+I thought it was a very very nice episode, they covered some things about antibodies which allowed
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+me to segue nicely into talking about how antibodies aren't as simple as the linear aspect of the
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+protein that you're making immune memory to and that really makes for an interesting discussion
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+because again, they're working all the time to simplify it as much as they can and in reality,
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+that's exactly the illusion that we're trying to break. They also talked about CRISPR engineering
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+and RNA viruses and they glossed over the fact that in all of these experiments they're
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+generating a pure RNA sequence that they then edit and that pure sequence has to be
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+some kind of clone, it's using recombinant DNA technology to generate a pure RNA molecule that
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+they can then edit under the pretense that they can edit RNA viruses but again the point is
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+is that that's the only way they can work on RNA viruses and so adapting CRISPR to RNA viruses
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+still hasn't changed the fact that in order to work on them you've got to go back to DNA and make
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+large quantities of them and so I've been trying to convince you over the last year or so and
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+this finally dawned on me that these people have changed the way that we think about certain
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+aspects of biology especially our response to a respiratory virus the way our immune system works
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+in response to a virus versus vaccination and why transfection could not be vaccination.
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+They've also made it very hard or at least made no effort to help people to understand the
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+cycle of life as it works in America. The real reality of it is that everybody that's watching
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+this stream is going to be dead in a hundred years and so there's some math that goes along
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+with a country of 340 odd million people and that math is that about three million people die every
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+year and so when they started telling us about thousands of people dying every week of COVID
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+if they would have put it in the correct context they would have first told you how many people
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+die on average every week of different causes and they didn't do that because the motivation
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+06:14.360 --> 06:18.760
+was to confuse you about these things so that they could institute all kinds of changes in our
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+society and in the short term they really institute changes in the way that we treated these people
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+so that what was normally a pretty fixed survival rate of secondary pneumonia
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+was doubled and tripled in terms of not surviving rather the the kill rate of pneumonia was doubled
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+or tripled in many of these places because the protocols were wholly inappropriate based on the
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+idea that this novel virus left us clueless as to how to treat these symptomologies that we were
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+seeing and so that's that's the trick right that was the trick about controlling the narrative
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+that was the trick about you know this is a national security priority so we can't have anybody
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+off narrative we've got to make sure everybody stays on message but that created a combination
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+of political and socioeconomic and whatever other words you want to use to describe the incentives
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+which drove doctors to behave in a sort of group safe sort of way well if they're gonna all go
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+along with it then I have to go along with her I'm gonna lose my job and so that's how the scooby
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+do was then portrayed or dropped upon us right we have this situation where we have been duped
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+into thinking that this elaborate cover-up occurred and that everybody is now slowly coming
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+to realize that that America was involved that America funded it that it was a gain of function
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+virus and they knew it all along and now we find out that the CIA knew it all along
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+and so I've told you this many times they've lied to us about this pandemic potential in order
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+to invert our rights I've also told you many times that the people in the yellow stripe here are the
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+people that people mostly ignore because these people are questioning specifically the protocols
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+spread and the variants and everybody else who accepts that there was a virus and accepts that it
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+could be a gain of function accepts that it was allowed it could have been a lab leak and accepts
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+that it could come again tend to rise very well in their book sales and in their sub-stack
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+08:35.800 --> 08:40.920
+subscribers and they tend to stay away from questioning things like well how many people
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+did the protocols really kill how many opioid deaths are really roped into this every year
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+what does the disappearing flu really account for or not account for how many heart attacks were
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+rolled into this and what do the variants really mean so these questions are the ones
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+that Michael Eden and myself and Nick Hudson and others have posed as evidence for if you
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+don't have answers to these questions then maybe you've got to reevaluate you've got to back the
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+truck up and reevaluate what you think happened in these last three years and so we've been trying
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+to make a map of all the people that are involved and we've been trying to you know just sort of see
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+who is more or less on faith faith is includes the novel virus we had to do something the mRNA
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+was rushed and it could come again because it's a gain of function virus
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+09:35.640 --> 09:40.120
+recently i had a little run-in with a guy by the name of robin matunati he's a man
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+manati he's an architect from Italy and he's a an acquaintance of Michael Eden
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+and he ended up blocking me i can tell you from conversations and private messages and
+
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+everything that it's fine to put him down here it turns out he may have been a medler for a while
+
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+and actually keeping more or less as a gatekeeper of Michael Eden on telegram and other places
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+and so we have slowly but surely been hammering through trying to find good people like
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+professor martin niel i think this guy's got his head in the right place and he's trying to
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+put put numbers in the right place and so he's another person i think you can start to follow
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+um so let's keep thinking about this and and keep pushing forward about the fact that they told
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+us a story and then they that was supposed to be a slide there with robert malone i don't know why
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+that wasn't there i think it's because it crashed okay so anyway then they rolled out all these people
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+on that screen or those screens back there and keep in mind i just want to say this before i
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+10:51.640 --> 10:59.080
+bring in my guest there is a possibility that a lot of these people meant well like pere cori for
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+example went to new york really wanted to help and then got you know sort of like met in a private
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+room and said okay dude here's the thing and now you know pere cori is is not going to question the
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+major tenements of the faith because he was told very early on that this is a national security
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+thing and there's no screwing around here and there's lots of people that may have been told
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+that and so you can't think of these you can't think of and i want to prevent you from jumping to
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+the conclusion that i'm saying that all these people are in on it and they're all having a
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+you know hot tub parties and steak dinners in the background um i do think that there are a lot of
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+people who've meant well who've been co-opted who've been threatened who've been
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+you know lost everything and so this is this is all they've got left
+
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+um so a transfection is not immunization intra-uscular injection it's not a valid means of the
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+immunization and tonight i have a guest um his name is mark koolack and he has a website
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+hisatonicids.com and he has been a good friend of mine for quite some time now actually since the
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+start not since the start of the pandemic but since we first got here and actually i just
+
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+wanted to say that um tomorrow mark um turns 50 and so i thought that you know instead of instead
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+of interviewing him i would have a little surprise birthday party for mark um and so i guess it
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+looks like our first guest is already here um hi vira how are you great to be here hey that's so
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+12:46.040 --> 12:52.680
+nice to be enjoying i mean we talked on the phone but we haven't yet connected really uh but i'm
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+offering to people who have open minds i'm not a scientist hey no but i connect docs
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+it's sort of something i do and it's it's especially useful in these times people need to look
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+out of the box not in the box and the problem is that most of seeing the world through the box
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+now i live in new york city so i can tell you that more people are now back in the masks than they
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+were in june hmm voila it's like here we go again not many but enough to make me nervous you know
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+vira it's an honor uh thank you for joining wow what a what a cool little birthday gift
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+johnson thank you uh-huh it was it was a little idea between me and a friend that lives in your
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+house oh wow oh wow thank you sherry wow um wow well uh now i'm i'm especially thrilled that i didn't
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+why i didn't prepare anything specific because it would have been probably uh wouldn't have gone
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+down those paths anyways so yes fair we've had i think one or two great conversations
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+and um i mean given your background your experiences your losses and things would you've helped
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+bring light to i find you to be also open-minded to revisiting very challenging things and i that is
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+a very admirable skill i think that's actually not a skill we are born with um i remember um
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+my first two or three years i was working as a professional
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+uh one of the managers had some very it would in retrospect useful constructive criticism of
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+some stuff that i've been doing and i was so mad i got so snappy you know i was like what 26 or 27
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+at the time is i still i'm still embarrassed about it um it just takes time there's no
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+college program to learn how to be an analyst uh to uh you know to apply logical thinking skills
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+this is just something you find you learn and then you realize that boy the only person you really
+
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+need to prove wrong i'm not talking to you but just in general we need to prove wrong
+
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+ourselves because if you can prove yourself wrong first you will always be in front of everyone else
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+of course um so uh and anyways it's i'm sure that you probably share a lot of these lessons as well
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+and uh it's it's an honor thank you thank you for joining and thank you Jonathan thank you Cheryl
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+so what's uh what's the status of uh of your uh your manuscript beer can you update us at all on
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+that i mean how far halfway are we done you're waiting for me and then the whole thing's done
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+well you know i mean uh for those who know about the documentary never again is now global
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+um what's interesting about that really is that more and more are we allowed to use it can we
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+re-stream it if i re absolutely absolutely we're not out to make money on this i want i really want
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+billions to see if the truth be told i don't know if we can get there then i have to put it on the
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+stuff oh i think it's uh the reason that it's important is because most people who know a little
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+bit you know about World War II and all that they think they know but they really don't know
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+what they don't know is the pattern that's been going along since you know very long time
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+and that today really what the way in the the same people the same mindset the same dynasties
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+the same corporations the same banks they're all the same it's a it's an ongoing thread
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+and what people don't really what they cannot comprehend today is the sadism the pre-planned
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+going along by the way they cannot believe that and what's so those who do start to realize it
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+recognize that what happened then was planned and and you know i mean really one c was you know
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+now we do the final solution before that that wasn't on the table and we have that now we've got
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+you know the children the children of your own nation see they it's spread further it's metastasized
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+and there are some people who are awake who actually recognize hey this is like you're it's in the
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+air there are some people who are beginning to really realize that there are parallels i don't
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+have to tell them that in the beginning i did and i can tell you that in 2020 when i first started
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+to say hey this these murderous protocols and hospitals were just like t4 i mean really people
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+in sort of our uh million they said oh well you don't mean that they just you know they didn't know
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+i said no like governor Cuomo said precisely this virus in nursing homes will be like fire
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+through dry grass so i guess he knew what he was doing because he only issued the order after he
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+said that you know but people didn't want to believe that that kind of evil exists now and
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+this is what i think is the hardest thing to bring across that yes that Nazi mindset is alive
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+and thriving and it it's it's in a much larger venue now it's global now they don't want just
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+Europe they want the entire global human population this is very hard for people to
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+grass they really don't want to know that we use the word evil and i mean i would agree but
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+could you could you comment a little bit more on that because when you know what we have a
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+Hollywood you know caricature of what it's like to be evil you know to just you just want to
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+torture puppies just just intentionally do awful things but evil is is is is the dehumanization
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+of people by people who might themselves not see it as evil they they must you know i believe
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+many many sleep at night thinking they must have done the right thing or
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+i don't know do many people in these machines who are behind this do they just not recognize
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+it i mean how do they talk themselves into participating i would say to you just look at the
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+children what they're doing to children the trafficking of children the transgendering of
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+children now they've gone further than the Nazis and because this is now all you know all
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+children are at risk and think about it they're now actually i don't know if they'll really get
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+to do it because they they have a lot of delusions about what they can and can't do
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+but now that they're toying around with birthing outside of the womb so this is a slave
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+you know a slave labor in the making oh man both sex slaves and worker slaves i mean
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+you can't get worse than that really and so that cannot be like oh it happened chance we didn't
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+know it would go that far no they really have been working at it i'm shocked i'm shocked i mean
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+really to go that far to change the human species that's what they want they want to eliminate
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+unpredictability and individuals are unpredictable crowds they know how to take care of how to
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+control but it's people like us that that really are bothering them look we're the control group
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+as far as the shots go they got rid of it finally got rid of the control group right away because
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+they realized oh this isn't going to look good but we're there so we're in the crosshairs
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+this is evil incarnate i don't think there's ever been anything more evil in a planned way really
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+you know a real cabal sitting down every so often on this and that i mean they're not intense but
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+you know but just as you know the vatican for vatican too you know they went into the catacombs
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+to talk about that to plan it because again they knew that anywhere else it wasn't safe but they
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+could be listened to but the catacombs that's where they cooked it up so they are very aware that
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+they're doing evil that's what i'm trying to say they're not they might speak to us in terms that
+
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+oh well we're trying our best you know this is for humanity and all that but by themselves
+
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+they really know what they're doing it is really hard though verifor you've you said it correctly
+
+23:21.560 --> 23:27.160
+it's really hard for people to accept that level of malevolence that's right and the idea
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+that people can go on tv and lie like that they just don't believe it i know well there is that
+
+23:33.320 --> 23:39.720
+meme that says you know the devil is so happy that the one thing he was able to pull the wool
+
+23:39.720 --> 23:47.640
+over everybody is that he doesn't exist it's really subtle truth people cannot believe that other
+
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+human beings are truly evil they can't because they're not evil you know they do things to skirt
+
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+you know a uh law or or this or that and they they know how to cheat a little bit and not tell
+
+24:01.800 --> 24:09.080
+their you know the irs and whatever but those are small things they cannot accept that people
+
+24:09.080 --> 24:16.200
+actually plan evil you know to turn the world around and all that but that's a fact and unless
+
+24:16.200 --> 24:23.800
+we recognize it and fight it with you know the kind of ammunition that we need to they would win
+
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+and if they win that's the end of the human species life wouldn't be worth living under those really
+
+24:32.600 --> 24:38.360
+well we can end the show right now thank you very much for joining us everybody that was
+
+24:38.360 --> 24:43.080
+the message for the night for me but you know i it's still a birthday party so we got to keep it
+
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+going yep let's keep it's light no it isn't it's hard to be light mark and i together it's hard to be
+
+24:49.960 --> 24:57.080
+light um because we've been working together now for a little while behind the scenes with regard
+
+24:57.080 --> 25:02.600
+to just checking one another's work and and making sure that we're not going crazy and uh
+
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+and um i have a lot to be thankful for with mark so i'm really um i really want this to be uh
+
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+a time when at least i'm testifying to the idea that this is a good guy and i'm really uh
+
+25:18.200 --> 25:24.440
+i'm really thankful he's on our team so happy birthday mark tomorrow and i think who is that
+
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+down there is that rebecca i i don't know if i can hear you yet or not
+
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+uh-huh happy birthday mark thank you rebecca wow wow
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+oh uh this is the uh the new uh the florida uh with the horse ranch yeah
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+wow what thank you for joining thank you this is wonderful uh we uh talk about your story
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+25:54.200 --> 26:00.280
+a lot it's a very important story it's always in our in our minds and i i'm sure i'm speaking for
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+you uh as well jonathan how have you been we actually that's a crazy question because we were emailing
+
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+today yeah uh you're the best i can i have my moments um nice meeting you vira
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+26:17.160 --> 26:22.520
+vira we i sorry this is kind of an off subject thing but are you going to the chd conference in
+
+26:23.000 --> 26:31.400
+in georgia do you know savannah yeah you are okay okay actually actually the secret is out there
+
+26:31.400 --> 26:38.040
+sort of honoring me and i don't know what i'm supposed to do but you know uh but you know they
+
+26:38.040 --> 26:46.120
+need a poll to get people to come and all that um yeah no and i haven't been to savannah i always
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+26:46.120 --> 26:54.280
+wanted to actually you know the south i like stuff early on i we used to go to the south quite
+
+26:54.280 --> 27:01.800
+often when my husband was a an accountant at that time and uh what i discovered early on and this
+
+27:01.800 --> 27:14.360
+is relevant to today is that the south and this is in the sixties um when the supreme court came
+
+27:14.440 --> 27:25.880
+down with some rulings such as interstate highways cannot have uh segregation in like motels and
+
+27:25.880 --> 27:34.120
+things like that they just like that they law about it this was at the same time where all kinds of
+
+27:34.120 --> 27:41.080
+riots were going on in boston about school integration and i came back from the south and
+
+27:41.080 --> 27:48.360
+said you know what in the south when a law is becomes down they abide by the law
+
+27:49.720 --> 27:56.360
+here in the north it's a whole different ball game they don't abide they they riot they
+
+27:57.400 --> 28:04.360
+i mean somebody like tribe who was a liberal liberal you know it was supposed to be a little
+
+28:04.360 --> 28:13.480
+a school for a few little black boys 11 years old next to him oh no he was part of the community
+
+28:13.480 --> 28:20.920
+that oh no this will be a traffic jams and all kinds of things hey uh-uh i realized
+
+28:22.600 --> 28:28.040
+that southerners somehow or other i mean you know they're more law abiding when the law came down
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+28:28.040 --> 28:34.920
+they abide it one of the things that i think and i don't think many people have thought about
+
+28:34.920 --> 28:42.680
+that at all which is that in the south especially you know middle and upper class they had nannies
+
+28:44.520 --> 28:51.720
+children were brought up by nannies black nannies it was the nanny who kissed your knee when you fell
+
+28:51.720 --> 28:59.560
+and scraped it it was a nanny who fed you it was a nanny they had human interaction in the north
+
+28:59.560 --> 29:10.440
+you never did human interaction one-on-one you know embrace physical all that is very important
+
+29:10.440 --> 29:17.720
+for people for little people and older people and you know and i think we need to sort of think
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+29:17.720 --> 29:24.040
+about that when we make all these different plans you know because the plans just like
+
+29:24.040 --> 29:29.720
+Stalin's plans you know the 10-year plan the 20-year plan they were total disasters
+
+29:31.480 --> 29:38.200
+all centralized plans are disasters it's the one-on-one that either makes it or breaks
+
+29:39.080 --> 29:46.680
+and that's really something that i think we should all kind of try to emphasize because it gets back
+
+29:46.680 --> 29:53.880
+to the human the individual just as the hypocritical this it's a one-on-one
+
+29:55.240 --> 30:00.200
+it's not public health it's not the greater good it's the individual
+
+30:01.960 --> 30:07.320
+and they've managed to you know really move away from that as if that's more scientific
+
+30:07.960 --> 30:13.480
+oh you should hear the latest paul off it where he's talking about how he doesn't think it's a very
+
+30:13.560 --> 30:22.360
+religious idea to go without vaccination because that's not protecting your neighbor and uh there
+
+30:22.360 --> 30:29.800
+we go again so like you know real twisting of a of a of a christian ideal or whatever ideal it
+
+30:29.800 --> 30:36.040
+is but i mean it was really bad it was really bad oh my goodness but they have convinced young
+
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+people that this is sort of a a logical way of thinking which
+
+30:43.640 --> 30:47.560
+they they don't understand what they're what they're surrendering when they do that and that
+
+30:48.280 --> 30:51.480
+individualism doesn't mean that you don't love your neighbor it means that
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+30:52.360 --> 30:56.360
+you have a sense of what's sacred and it's it's a different thing it's very very
+
+30:57.240 --> 31:05.720
+I've minded there now and they're taking advantage of uh the the good nature i believe of most
+
+31:05.720 --> 31:11.000
+people i mean that the old the analogy you know if you're in a boat in middle of the ocean you
+
+31:11.000 --> 31:16.680
+only got so much food you have to make tough choices and most people have compassion and can
+
+31:16.680 --> 31:23.880
+make tough decisions and and then you present people with these hypothetical situations of wow
+
+31:24.840 --> 31:34.680
+everyone's going to die unless this medical procedure is done which if that was absolutely true
+
+31:35.960 --> 31:40.840
+you know we could have a discussion but you're taking advantage of people's you know uh
+
+31:41.720 --> 31:48.040
+willingness or just you know to uh to make you know to work with the greater good i think most
+
+31:48.120 --> 31:53.800
+people have that capacity but it's being taken advantage of and it's such a slippery slope and
+
+31:53.800 --> 32:01.800
+that's with all the what the science says always air quoted the science um it's it's it's it's too
+
+32:01.800 --> 32:06.120
+bad and i i still remember being a child seeing uh you know my grandparents subscribing to the
+
+32:06.120 --> 32:10.520
+national geographic hall it's like every few years it went between you know it was going to be a
+
+32:10.520 --> 32:13.880
+everything's going to be a desert then it's everything's going to be freezing everything's
+
+32:13.960 --> 32:18.120
+going to be underwater you know of course you're growing up as a kid like well i don't want that
+
+32:18.120 --> 32:28.840
+i'll do whatever i need to do here we are and then we had a muggy summer what does that mean
+
+32:32.680 --> 32:37.880
+by the way i don't know about the rest of the country but in new york this summer has been
+
+32:37.960 --> 32:44.520
+the coolest ever august was totally cool wow yeah that's global warming
+
+32:46.280 --> 32:53.320
+you know i mean really it's it's amazing september has been warmer than august that's not
+
+32:53.320 --> 32:59.000
+usual really but you know but it happens things go up down up down up down
+
+33:00.040 --> 33:06.680
+the weather is changing on every planet yeah in the entire universe it would actually be odd if
+
+33:06.680 --> 33:11.240
+there was one planet that never had a change in temperature anymore that would actually be
+
+33:11.240 --> 33:17.960
+unusual well question is is it risk is it all caused by uh people's desire in the brassica
+
+33:17.960 --> 33:23.640
+to drive pickup trucks or not that's really what it comes down to it's not that dissimilar to what
+
+33:23.640 --> 33:30.040
+they did with the pandemic though where where you have this list of of reasons why people died
+
+33:30.920 --> 33:35.720
+and with the television and social media they convinced you that the number one reason why people
+
+33:35.720 --> 33:43.480
+died was a virus and all these other things are minor contributors and with global warming
+
+33:43.480 --> 33:50.520
+they've convinced you that carbon dioxide from burning things is the major cause of global warming
+
+33:50.520 --> 33:57.400
+and it has nothing to do with geothermal activity in the ocean or the ocean releasing co2 from ph change
+
+33:57.400 --> 34:05.400
+or from changes in in annual solar energy or for the amount of water vapor in the air the
+
+34:05.400 --> 34:12.920
+all these things that matter so much more than the co2 and yet somehow they've convinced us that
+
+34:12.920 --> 34:20.680
+this signal is the one that shows the whole story very much similar to the the variant map
+
+34:22.280 --> 34:28.040
+of of covid-19 shows the whole story of the pandemic it's it's it's a very very
+
+34:29.000 --> 34:32.440
+much mythology based kind of governance at this stage
+
+34:36.600 --> 34:41.160
+so who else is here now Rebecca's here who is galaxy a 11 is that Marie
+
+34:42.360 --> 34:46.040
+oh my goodness i thought that was that was that Marie is that you
+
+34:47.720 --> 34:55.240
+you got to come online though you're muted i also just sent an out to all my subscribers so
+
+34:55.240 --> 35:00.040
+there could be just some people that want to come and say happy birthday to so i don't know
+
+35:00.760 --> 35:06.680
+who else will be here Marie are still muted tech problems
+
+35:08.760 --> 35:18.440
+there we go is that better can you hear me yes yes i can well happy birthday mark
+
+35:19.160 --> 35:25.080
+happy long conversation thank you i i don't i don't want to reiterate but
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+i really do hope you have a wonderful day you are
+
+35:31.880 --> 35:35.560
+one of the good men in this fight and
+
+35:37.960 --> 35:43.720
+you guys are killing me here well you are and and it's very important
+
+35:44.520 --> 35:50.680
+um i vira i'm also from originally from new york so i understand exactly what you're saying
+
+35:51.480 --> 36:00.520
+um about the sixties yep remember it well and um it is you know the seed that you and i plant
+
+36:00.520 --> 36:07.480
+right now that are extremely important because these folks are going to really carry the burden
+
+36:08.360 --> 36:14.280
+yep so Jonathan and i have these debates where
+
+36:15.560 --> 36:20.520
+since we work together really well we've developed more and more trust of you know for each other
+
+36:21.400 --> 36:30.920
+and there were quite a few people that worked worked enthusiastically to get us to not trust
+
+36:31.000 --> 36:36.280
+each other and i mean we have differences opinions on things but you know whatever
+
+36:36.840 --> 36:44.680
+that's healthy um and we wonder if because i've i've hypothesized that the internet
+
+36:44.680 --> 36:51.560
+can segment people it can partition things in a way where there could be another very productive
+
+36:51.560 --> 36:58.200
+pocket of people maybe over here that somehow our little networks just haven't connected so
+
+36:59.000 --> 37:04.520
+um that could be the case or i don't know maybe it is just Jonathan and me
+
+37:08.120 --> 37:13.800
+but working with you guys as well um and you know we try to stay positive even though there's a
+
+37:13.800 --> 37:20.360
+lot of negative stuff going on right now and boy you're this is this is the group you guys are
+
+37:20.360 --> 37:23.320
+the people that i think about all day in this particular fight
+
+37:25.560 --> 37:31.640
+um and uh i guess i guess we're here i guess we're here john to you know guess i guess we're
+
+37:31.640 --> 37:39.800
+going to distance a i think we are that's it yep that's it it's time to i think you have to think
+
+37:39.800 --> 37:46.360
+of us more of like the the first few people in the lawn seats of a summer concert that stand up
+
+37:46.360 --> 37:51.720
+and start dancing and just a few more people need to stand up and then and then it will become
+
+37:52.600 --> 37:56.440
+um contagious that's my that's what i hope and pray
+
+37:58.280 --> 38:04.120
+i hope so because there's a lot of intellectual horsepower out there that is either just doesn't
+
+38:04.120 --> 38:10.440
+know it's still in the machine or it's just afraid to stand up and yeah you're gonna you're gonna
+
+38:10.440 --> 38:16.760
+have a few tomatoes thrown at you it's gonna it's gonna sting a little bit um but you can get
+
+38:16.760 --> 38:22.520
+through it uh boy i have so much more confidence in myself now than i did several years ago
+
+38:23.720 --> 38:29.160
+i'm sure you feel the same way john you know even though you've taken a lot of hits for it
+
+38:31.320 --> 38:38.200
+and i never thought we it would you know what i'm in my fifth year doing this full time basically
+
+38:39.080 --> 38:45.720
+i wasn't the plan i just i just started doing some twitter searches you know a few years ago
+
+38:46.280 --> 38:51.800
+i i didn't really have a particular plan and here we are i i don't think any one of us did
+
+38:52.360 --> 38:57.160
+i don't think anyone here well perhaps you've been working at this a long time bureau but
+
+38:57.960 --> 39:02.520
+you know five six years ago would have expected to make this much of a
+
+39:03.240 --> 39:09.560
+uh dedicate this much of their lives to this particular cause or any cause like
+
+39:09.560 --> 39:13.960
+speak to that vira tell me i mean a little bit about that because that's something that i think
+
+39:13.960 --> 39:20.520
+about all the time i only woke up two years ago so you were speaking out about this nonsense for
+
+39:20.520 --> 39:27.880
+much longer and and and at that time already i guess you were pretty convinced that that this was
+
+39:27.880 --> 39:37.800
+this was highly incorrect um highly unethical um and so have you uh if from your perspective is
+
+39:37.800 --> 39:43.720
+there a momentum that's building or are we just kidding ourselves well i'll tell you you know
+
+39:45.560 --> 39:54.840
+i okay i mean some of you know my background but that wasn't i i did not appear most of my life
+
+39:54.920 --> 40:01.560
+as holocaust survive that's really now in the last three years that was my background but
+
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+this was not something that i was advertising uh i bumped into the uh horror of
+
+40:12.920 --> 40:19.960
+medicine you know uh pharma medicine kind of thing and pharma government medicine let's put it that
+
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+way uh when my son got sick when my son you know got schizophrenia and i had to deal with the mental
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+40:27.320 --> 40:37.480
+health system i had to learn it i had it and yeah i mean i was being trained by the advocacy
+
+40:37.480 --> 40:45.480
+group alliance for mentally ill which was a parent organization but they really were totally
+
+40:45.480 --> 40:54.760
+co-opted uh by the pharmaceutical and government it was a you cannot then array
+
+40:56.200 --> 41:01.560
+and you know one of the things i remember one of the things for example which i know you're
+
+41:01.560 --> 41:08.920
+gonna laugh but when i learned the phrase controlled clinical trial i said oh well that makes sense
+
+41:09.880 --> 41:15.960
+companies control the clinical trials but i was all known on ovira that's not what it oh and i
+
+41:15.960 --> 41:22.920
+was being taught you know the the line and all the different things and all that you know i was
+
+41:22.920 --> 41:33.880
+going along because i was looking for help for my son but then when i and and and i have to say my
+
+41:33.960 --> 41:42.280
+husband at eulogy of our son said we were his executioners because i was pushing i was helping
+
+41:43.800 --> 41:52.520
+uh the psychiatry route to push the drug that wound up killing him
+
+41:55.000 --> 42:00.840
+so that you know totally that just shattered everything and then i really realized i've got a
+
+42:00.840 --> 42:08.920
+you know uh and most of the parents were all hoodwins that way and we have to understand that
+
+42:08.920 --> 42:19.160
+all advocacy groups for specific illnesses are lobbyists they're being trained to be lobbyists
+
+42:21.080 --> 42:28.440
+to go to congress and get more money for their particular illness that that's how they get the
+
+42:28.440 --> 42:35.000
+parent groups but i did start to open my eyes to some of this
+
+42:36.760 --> 42:44.120
+and i realized yeah this is this is you know i we're being we're being the executioners i mean
+
+42:44.120 --> 42:55.640
+this is outrageous so i had to kind of leave you know that whole illusion which you know what it was
+
+42:56.280 --> 43:01.880
+and and it was very very difficult i mean this is a terrible thing you can imagine i mean just as
+
+43:01.880 --> 43:09.320
+parents now who have pushed their children to get the jabs when some of those children are going to
+
+43:09.320 --> 43:17.240
+be hurt and some die whatever the some parents will go insane i absolutely am sure of it
+
+43:18.200 --> 43:20.440
+they won't be able to cope with the guilt
+
+43:23.640 --> 43:34.920
+uh but i guess i was in some way made you know something about me was strong and i am channeling
+
+43:34.920 --> 43:42.520
+yet i'm trying to you know in a positive way to try to wake other people up to what is really
+
+43:42.600 --> 43:49.160
+going on and you know and this thing with covid is just so overwhelming totally i mean the whole
+
+43:49.880 --> 43:52.280
+globe is is in lockstep
+
+43:54.520 --> 44:00.680
+this is the part that i wish we could bring across to people to just think how is it i mean
+
+44:01.480 --> 44:07.640
+for example dr zebzalenko who features prominently in the documentary that i made
+
+44:08.520 --> 44:14.520
+he said how is it that you could imagine that seven and a half billion people are all going
+
+44:14.520 --> 44:20.040
+to march the same way i mean people don't agree with each other and the normal thing is you squabble
+
+44:20.040 --> 44:32.360
+you fight you argue what the heck and yet though particularly the educated layer has put blinders
+
+44:32.360 --> 44:41.880
+that they do not allow you to go near and this is brought home to me every single day about
+
+44:43.640 --> 44:47.880
+the working class the minority groups they get it
+
+44:50.040 --> 44:56.680
+they say oh you're talking about the fraud you know they they know
+
+44:57.000 --> 45:03.160
+there's one thing for example the black community
+
+45:04.760 --> 45:13.720
+you know Tuskegee is in their DNA and they have learned to not trust government and public
+
+45:13.720 --> 45:20.760
+health just it's so fact though they don't trust it that's the smart whenever i address any group
+
+45:20.760 --> 45:25.960
+like that i always tell them hold on to it don't ever lose that that's your best defense
+
+45:29.080 --> 45:37.080
+and unfortunately most other groups particularly the more educated are completely they don't want
+
+45:37.080 --> 45:45.880
+to believe it i have on my floor is a sale in new york city i have on my floor a neurologist
+
+45:45.880 --> 45:55.480
+columbia university he's still wearing a mask okay think about it it means that he has never
+
+45:55.480 --> 46:04.360
+touched a real piece of scientific evidence it's just amazing you know and there are others
+
+46:04.360 --> 46:10.600
+like that for me why you were for a mathematician from cutie same thing she's wearing a mask
+
+46:10.680 --> 46:20.280
+this tells you that i mean the dumbing down or the blockade of thinking is particularly has been
+
+46:21.480 --> 46:27.480
+i think really it's been focused on the educators
+
+46:29.720 --> 46:37.800
+the ones that educate others educated doesn't necessarily you would think it would translate
+
+46:37.880 --> 46:43.640
+into having to perform at a very high intellectual level but it means that you have been
+
+46:44.680 --> 46:51.320
+you've had the verses read to you repetitively and you should be proud that you believe and
+
+46:51.320 --> 46:57.880
+support the verses whatever they are that's educated because i'll tell you what i mean if you
+
+46:58.760 --> 47:03.800
+people who are working in a lot of the trades these days uh these these are not easy trades
+
+47:03.800 --> 47:11.000
+anymore there's more computers involved in being an automotive technician or working HVAC these
+
+47:11.000 --> 47:20.600
+days than there was working a mainframe 40 years ago and these trades very hard work and you tend
+
+47:20.600 --> 47:27.960
+to have people that are more just more critical thinking and more skeptical there's other thing
+
+47:28.040 --> 47:34.520
+the tradespeople every day have to make decisions all by themselves without a protocol that's pre
+
+47:34.520 --> 47:41.320
+ordained that's true doctors and professors have it all given to them this is what you teach this
+
+47:41.320 --> 47:47.320
+is what you do they don't have to think and so they've stopped even exercising that kind of
+
+47:47.880 --> 47:55.080
+thinking all by themselves they trust authority actually i uh before uh think we have another
+
+47:55.080 --> 48:01.080
+answer i've been all given to them this is what you teach this is what you do you know oh we got
+
+48:01.080 --> 48:11.960
+a muter there she goes who's that i don't know who that is who who but that's the sad thing that
+
+48:11.960 --> 48:18.760
+the longer you've been conditioned in a university the less you're likely to think independently
+
+48:19.560 --> 48:24.840
+because you've learned because if i can fill in that blank a little bit from my own experience
+
+48:24.840 --> 48:31.560
+because you've learned that it's safe to stay within your little tiny corner of expertise
+
+48:32.280 --> 48:39.240
+and as long as covid wasn't your expertise you just assume that the experts whose expertise that
+
+48:39.240 --> 48:45.800
+is are doing their job correctly and it's uh i really think that that's what they learn that's
+
+48:45.800 --> 48:52.120
+what we were taught is you know how to find a little it's not not any different than what you
+
+48:52.120 --> 48:58.280
+were mentioning a little while ago where people are are taught to advocate for their own little
+
+48:58.280 --> 49:05.480
+disease and their own little cures for it and their own little uh investigative grants and this
+
+49:05.480 --> 49:12.200
+kind of thing and it creates people who aren't actually thinking anymore it really does um
+
+49:13.000 --> 49:18.600
+as they're not integrating across the whole anymore and so they don't see patterns of
+
+49:18.600 --> 49:23.080
+incongruity they don't see these the ways that the system is gained
+
+49:25.640 --> 49:30.120
+they're dependent on the system too remember the system rewards obedience
+
+49:32.360 --> 49:39.240
+i have a question for uh just for Rebecca uh speaking of uh getting into the fight um
+
+49:40.040 --> 49:48.920
+uh you had to fight a long time for your daughter Danielle and i learned today from our mutual
+
+49:48.920 --> 49:56.520
+friend Marie that you actually were involved i think it was 15 or 20 years ago in New York City
+
+49:57.560 --> 50:02.840
+in getting um uh i don't know if it was related to their education or their
+
+50:03.720 --> 50:07.320
+some of the support program is that anything you could share just to show that
+
+50:08.200 --> 50:10.760
+uh i mean unlike myself i've not really been a
+
+50:12.120 --> 50:18.840
+uh you know an activist of sorts or involved in social causes but you have Rebecca in the past
+
+50:20.200 --> 50:26.840
+yeah um well Danielle her birth she was delayed during delivery so she came out with oxygen
+
+50:26.840 --> 50:33.960
+deprivation um and the doctors didn't tell me anything they all belong to the same group
+
+50:34.760 --> 50:39.080
+so i never knew even though i kept asking what's wrong you know she's not doing as all the other
+
+50:39.080 --> 50:43.960
+kids so just say oh no it's your baby and you know being a young mom and a trusting person to the
+
+50:43.960 --> 50:52.440
+white coats i trusted the white coats um i believed it until she was two and a half it was getting
+
+50:52.440 --> 50:59.320
+separated from my husband and i went to church and one of the women there said that does that mom
+
+50:59.320 --> 51:05.560
+know that her baby has a form of CP and i didn't even know the that word lingo i knew nothing
+
+51:06.280 --> 51:13.000
+and i just delved right into going in to get in tested and learning as much as i could and you
+
+51:13.000 --> 51:18.840
+know always believe in she's gonna get better because that's i would never give up on her um
+
+51:19.800 --> 51:26.520
+and then she started special ed and Schneider's at uh three years old at five years old when she
+
+51:26.520 --> 51:31.640
+went into the special ed school right away it was drugs you know the one that rammed the severe
+
+51:31.640 --> 51:39.000
+i mean got ritalin ritalin ritalin ritalin ritalin um then from ritalin it was ritalin
+
+51:39.000 --> 51:45.240
+at a roll then it was another drug and i'm after the psychiatrist is this safe to do you keep
+
+51:45.240 --> 51:55.320
+changing the medication put it up more and lessening and and um i i just you know being a healthy
+
+51:55.320 --> 52:00.600
+person all the vitamins it was very strange we i never saw kids being on drugs in my life i
+
+52:00.600 --> 52:07.320
+never saw that and um i always listen to gary knolls in the afternoon and coming home and this is
+
+52:07.320 --> 52:12.600
+with the wake-up call for me when he said ritalin is a class two drugs if injected you would it would
+
+52:12.600 --> 52:19.560
+give you a highest cocaine i was like that's where the doctor was given my daughter and i came home i
+
+52:19.560 --> 52:24.680
+look at the pill and i said i couldn't take it i never took drugs and if i can't take it i can't
+
+52:24.680 --> 52:31.320
+give it to my daughter and that's where my fight started so i started with a school you know
+
+52:31.320 --> 52:38.600
+demanding that she don't take this drugs demanding that she has an aid with her to do whatever she
+
+52:38.600 --> 52:43.400
+needs um she always got all her home cooked meals she never we never ate junk food so she's always
+
+52:43.400 --> 52:50.920
+healthy and when i pulled her out of school i i took it to the institute of achievement
+
+52:50.920 --> 52:56.280
+whether work with special eds and people at strokes in pennsylvania and they showed me that
+
+52:56.280 --> 53:03.240
+she could change she could get better with special nutrition supplements um probiotics for the gods
+
+53:03.240 --> 53:12.600
+and all these things um i decided that my daughter was not getting education in new york no she was
+
+53:12.600 --> 53:19.960
+not so i pulled out the school and i demanded that she got trained at home you know the specialists
+
+53:19.960 --> 53:26.600
+come home and they sent cps for me because now they're losing their money they're losing child
+
+53:26.600 --> 53:33.160
+protection services for those who don't know yes a single mom with a daughter now and you know
+
+53:33.160 --> 53:39.160
+one of the case managers said you know she said i could testify to this mom who would do anything
+
+53:39.160 --> 53:45.960
+for a child and i never knew how bad cps was in fact i opened the door and let them in you know
+
+53:45.960 --> 53:52.760
+not knowing how bad and and daniel was at that time she was eight and it was 2004 i started a
+
+53:52.760 --> 53:57.880
+non-for-profit called child it child's hope for independence learning and development
+
+53:59.400 --> 54:04.600
+and started training and bringing them from pennsylvania and trying to teach parents that
+
+54:05.640 --> 54:11.560
+these children and to legal drug addicts and that's the first time i ever understood that
+
+54:11.560 --> 54:19.400
+the pharmaceutical companies was given these short drugs keeping them subdued my daughter was
+
+54:19.400 --> 54:24.680
+the best she ever been once i got her off of it she was herself she wasn't this you know
+
+54:24.680 --> 54:31.880
+drugged up kid not knowing what to do and she has such a beautiful personality so um my fight
+
+54:31.880 --> 54:37.000
+began there yeah yeah and i went to the school boards and i was having meetings with the
+
+54:37.640 --> 54:41.400
+because they wanted to take me to court they didn't want to give me what i wanted and i went all
+
+54:41.400 --> 54:47.560
+the way up you know to say okay now we're going to start a charter school called child they will
+
+54:47.560 --> 54:54.680
+be able to get organic food no dairy and sugar and junk and they'll have all the exercise i'll
+
+54:54.680 --> 55:01.000
+bring in you know the institute from pennsylvania to train the teachers i was going you know i
+
+55:01.720 --> 55:06.600
+i believe in what is the right and i believe that children should never have to fall into
+
+55:06.600 --> 55:12.600
+the cracks they are our future and i still have the non-for-profit
+
+55:14.520 --> 55:21.800
+and be right just left new york last november i lived in york for 37 years i love new york until
+
+55:24.280 --> 55:32.440
+it's not the same no not the same and what you say is absolutely i mean really the whole
+
+55:32.520 --> 55:40.200
+covid thing it follows the playbook of the psychiatric stuff you really need to study the
+
+55:40.200 --> 55:47.080
+psychiatric stuff in order to see what they're doing because with psychiatry first of all
+
+55:47.080 --> 55:56.280
+psychiatrists never looked at their patients as human beings it's broken as damaged it damaged
+
+55:56.280 --> 56:01.880
+goods you know really and so anything you do to them it really doesn't matter that's their
+
+56:01.880 --> 56:10.920
+attitude it's really really true it's you know that's the nazi attitude these are you know throw
+
+56:10.920 --> 56:17.880
+away mm-hmm let's face it your daughter my son that's the same thing once you realize that then
+
+56:17.880 --> 56:25.160
+you realize this is the enemy because these are not doctors yeah he's in no way do they want to
+
+56:25.160 --> 56:33.480
+you know fix things to help anyone they want to essentially ticker and see what you know
+
+56:33.480 --> 56:38.360
+you touch this you you do a little a brain thing here i mean they're and they're doing they've
+
+56:38.360 --> 56:44.600
+been doing all this not just in the united states in sweden for example this you know people go in
+
+56:45.480 --> 56:51.800
+to the hospital to the carolinska and they come out with uh you know with something you know a
+
+56:51.800 --> 56:56.680
+hole in their head because they've got all kinds of things put in there the children too
+
+56:58.840 --> 57:03.080
+so there there are no holds barred when it comes to the psychiatric
+
+57:04.040 --> 57:07.960
+patients and of course the children they're making them into psychiatric patients
+
+57:08.600 --> 57:13.480
+by those drugs and drug cocktails it's gotten worse and worse and worse
+
+57:13.480 --> 57:22.040
+it was a case in boston where you know the psychiatrist from harvard was prescribing all
+
+57:22.040 --> 57:28.040
+these cocktails the child eventually died and the mother was blamed for murder
+
+57:30.120 --> 57:36.680
+yeah that's how you do it you disqualify the mother and you just and the child doesn't matter
+
+57:37.160 --> 57:46.840
+and nothing ever happened to the doctor yeah very very evil system and
+
+57:49.160 --> 57:55.080
+people don't want to really realize it but it is and it's backed by universities
+
+57:55.640 --> 58:03.320
+yep that's what gives it the cache yeah i truly believe the universities are just spit in
+
+58:03.320 --> 58:08.760
+out natural born killers by the time they come out to university i mean they could rip a baby
+
+58:08.760 --> 58:13.800
+out of the womb and suffocate it and kill it i mean they there's a psychopath that's uh i don't
+
+58:13.800 --> 58:19.000
+care if you went to school you're a psychopath so it was very easy for them to kill our loved ones
+
+58:19.000 --> 58:26.680
+in the hospital because they were training from the very young yeah they've divided you know the
+
+58:26.760 --> 58:33.400
+human species into the valuable and disqualified that's exactly what the Nazis did
+
+58:34.920 --> 58:40.520
+it really is exactly the same thing and you know the Nazis they began it wasn't
+
+58:41.320 --> 58:48.920
+they didn't begin this with the jews they actually began it with german disabled the disabled babies
+
+58:48.920 --> 58:58.440
+with the first but medically murdered victims anywhere and it you know they went up the
+
+59:00.040 --> 59:07.560
+age group and and then then it was the elderly in nursing homes and so when in 2020 when i
+
+59:08.360 --> 59:14.920
+realized how they were murdering the elderly in nursing you know all over the western
+
+59:14.920 --> 59:22.440
+europe united states canada i immediately said oh that's t4 that was what it was called in germany
+
+59:24.120 --> 59:32.680
+it was exactly not so i'm sorry uh jonathan i have talked a lot about this of how there's just a
+
+59:32.680 --> 59:41.640
+an unquenchable thirst for people for sub test subjects there's never going to be
+
+59:42.440 --> 59:52.840
+enough and it no one thought it would repeat but through this uh creation of larger-than-life
+
+59:52.840 --> 01:00:04.520
+fears effectively everyone is now able to be accessed and harvested and used and it sounds
+
+01:00:04.520 --> 01:00:09.800
+unbelievable and if some people want to participate in volunteering their data by all means it's a
+
+01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:16.120
+free world just this haven't be above board that's all that's all we ask but john and i and i
+
+01:00:16.120 --> 01:00:22.840
+john i does a good job at reminding the audience every night about the the demographic issue and
+
+01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:29.960
+about how this is uh it's a long-term thing this isn't just a oh what did this one shot do oh no no
+
+01:00:29.960 --> 01:00:39.400
+no no that is just one one pinprick of one platform for one test i mean there's a long series of
+
+01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:46.280
+things which are who knows how long that chain is to do to extract more and more
+
+01:00:47.160 --> 01:00:54.040
+data and to again i think they must have it they must believe that it's the right thing to do
+
+01:00:55.080 --> 01:01:03.080
+um but uh as a movie that i've often quoted i know it's a crazy stupid movie but uh death
+
+01:01:03.080 --> 01:01:08.600
+becomes there no matter what you do even if you can slow down the aging process there's a tree limb
+
+01:01:08.600 --> 01:01:17.720
+or a slippery set of stairs out there for everyone so uh and and i guess they don't see it that way
+
+01:01:17.720 --> 01:01:21.800
+i don't i don't know and it's amazing how it just brings out the worst in people and the worst of
+
+01:01:21.800 --> 01:01:30.120
+people is to not see other people as the other as your siblings of god they're just they're just
+
+01:01:30.760 --> 01:01:36.840
+data things they're it's that's the that's the evil the evil is the dehumanization
+
+01:01:39.720 --> 01:01:45.880
+i see a no offense to the other wonderful women if i see one lovely woman there who is that Jonathan
+
+01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:56.120
+um yeah i'm jumping in here because i have to jump back out i'm kind of crashing the party just
+
+01:01:56.120 --> 01:02:00.840
+really quickly because i just wanted to say happy birthday to my wonderful husband
+
+01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:05.240
+and i thought these lovely ladies and jay might like to see and i hope you can see this picture
+
+01:02:06.280 --> 01:02:09.240
+this is mark and i on our very first christmas together
+
+01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:21.960
+1998 mark was i think 24 and i was 32 yes i did rob the cradle as they say at the time i thought
+
+01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:29.480
+i was out of my mind but um maybe i am i don't know but anyways i'm so proud of you
+
+01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:38.520
+babe and um Vera and Maria and Rebecca i hear your stories around the dinner table often i feel
+
+01:02:38.520 --> 01:02:45.800
+like i know all of you very well and i'm honored that my husband is spending his time and his energy
+
+01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:53.560
+in this fight he is so dedicated to this and he thanks me all the time as if i need to be thanked
+
+01:02:53.560 --> 01:03:02.120
+i mean this is such an incredible mission that he's on and i'm so um overwhelmed with respect
+
+01:03:02.120 --> 01:03:08.200
+and admiration for what he's doing and i'm behind you every step of the way babe i love you so much
+
+01:03:09.160 --> 01:03:13.560
+and um this is your he kept saying please tell me you're not having a party please tell me you're
+
+01:03:13.560 --> 01:03:17.560
+not having a party with everything we have going on i wanted to have a big party
+
+01:03:18.120 --> 01:03:23.400
+but this is it you can relax no one's gonna sneak out from behind hate surprises
+
+01:03:25.720 --> 01:03:30.520
+thank you i love you jay has been my partner in crime and marie helped me in the background here
+
+01:03:30.520 --> 01:03:36.520
+too and um happy birthday i love you i'm gonna go get toddler stuff together for tomorrow and
+
+01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:38.600
+let you enjoy your guess
+
+01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:44.040
+love you honey see you soon hi everybody hi charles
+
+01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:54.120
+best smile of best smile of her soon first day i saw her in person i like wow that is the best
+
+01:03:54.120 --> 01:04:04.280
+smile i've ever seen oh lucky thank you Jonathan yeah you're welcome man i'm glad this uh worked out
+
+01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:10.280
+i uh i wasn't sure who would uh who would take the invitation and i didn't want to give everybody
+
+01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:17.720
+everybody else's email so it was a little weird to invite everybody but um i'm extremely happy with
+
+01:04:17.720 --> 01:04:24.760
+who came it's a very nice little group and uh most importantly i'm really happy that that
+
+01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:31.800
+Vera you've been so on point for so long now um you know you it it's refreshing to hear
+
+01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:38.600
+someone who can speak about the elephant from a different angle so eloquently um i i sort of
+
+01:04:38.600 --> 01:04:43.880
+am always talking about it from the biology maybe that's the bottom end or something like that and
+
+01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:51.480
+the experience i'll give you just a really short story the reason why Rodney Mullen the
+
+01:04:52.200 --> 01:04:57.720
+great escape order of all time became my friend was because he was often opening
+
+01:04:58.680 --> 01:05:05.320
+for these food conferences and for these TED Talks where these people were talking about
+
+01:05:05.320 --> 01:05:13.320
+transhumanism and augmenting people and and using AI to find the flow state for for people to become
+
+01:05:13.320 --> 01:05:20.120
+skillful you know and whatever and Rodney really wanted me to understand that these people really
+
+01:05:20.120 --> 01:05:27.400
+believe in what they're doing and that you know as much as they present in public um they present
+
+01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:34.600
+even more in private um what they have planned and why there's an abundance of resource that is
+
+01:05:34.600 --> 01:05:42.120
+humans that might as well be used while they're there matrix is something like that yeah oh boy
+
+01:05:42.120 --> 01:05:49.880
+yeah building on that uh there's a one-minute clip that i've shared so many times um of uh from
+
+01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:58.280
+2016 it was in September it was Anthony Fauci who was picked to do a job he's not really the
+
+01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:04.600
+criminal mastermind okay he's definitely in the position but he was picked you know before he
+
+01:06:04.600 --> 01:06:09.080
+even knew what he was gonna have to do for a life living nonetheless he's totally complicit but
+
+01:06:09.640 --> 01:06:17.320
+in Georgetown and they and they were having an event talking about Zika virus which as you may
+
+01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:27.240
+remember was alleged to cause a particular um birth birth effect birth challenge i don't know
+
+01:06:27.240 --> 01:06:35.080
+what the best word to use is of microcephaly uh if a pregnant woman were to be bit by a mosquito
+
+01:06:35.080 --> 01:06:40.760
+carrying a Zika virus at a particular point during the pregnancy now putting aside the fact that
+
+01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:48.760
+Zika virus is named after the Zika forest in Africa which is actually uh behind i believe a
+
+01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:54.920
+Cumberland farms and is across the street from a school and no one in this entire village has
+
+01:06:54.920 --> 01:07:01.560
+had any of these symptoms for the last hundred years aside from that okay and it going to Africa
+
+01:07:01.560 --> 01:07:08.920
+and that then traveling across going to South America Fauci made a statement that
+
+01:07:09.560 --> 01:07:16.120
+look uh because this uh virus was asymptomatic and everyone else okay it was just causing these
+
+01:07:16.120 --> 01:07:24.760
+birth defects allegedly um and as a uh um what's his name uh was a uh Bach last name
+
+01:07:25.320 --> 01:07:31.080
+Kent the Randy Bach has shown statistically it's been shown that there was there was almost no
+
+01:07:31.080 --> 01:07:36.600
+actual elevated microcephaly in South America it was done done through statistics but what Fauci
+
+01:07:36.600 --> 01:07:47.400
+said was the target of the Zika vaccine was not um pregnant women at all it was women of child
+
+01:07:47.400 --> 01:07:58.120
+bearing age and what they're looking to do there is a belief that if you can call if you want to
+
+01:07:58.120 --> 01:08:06.520
+protect again whatever uh the unborn against Zika virus you have to do it when the human is
+
+01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:17.160
+one cell one cell in size so that the DNA modification ripples through and now this is the same
+
+01:08:17.160 --> 01:08:24.760
+technology that the thinking of doing for RSV and it's like wow this is this is the modification
+
+01:08:25.400 --> 01:08:33.560
+part and when I hear about the uh look there are certainly some miracles which can happen because
+
+01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:40.600
+of the ability to have some children carried at certain times using machinery I think it's uh
+
+01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:48.680
+it's an amazing investment that has helped some people uh however I fear that what they will look
+
+01:08:48.680 --> 01:08:54.520
+at is like look there's only eight billion people in the world Americans are only having
+
+01:08:54.520 --> 01:09:00.200
+three million children a year wouldn't it be just fantastic if we could have machines
+
+01:09:02.200 --> 01:09:07.880
+fertilize a hundred thousand eggs at a time make a whole bunch of changes see what happens after a
+
+01:09:07.880 --> 01:09:13.560
+few weeks and then flush it down the toilet and then and do it again and again and again and again
+
+01:09:14.200 --> 01:09:19.800
+you don't need this you don't need this slave labor you just need more and more and more
+
+01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:28.520
+humans to to to to collect the data from that is my particular spin on the the nightmarish
+
+01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:35.320
+matrix scenario of again once you dehumanize all of this and it's like wow I could see something
+
+01:09:35.320 --> 01:09:45.720
+like that and currently there's this I believe it's uh well incorrect misinformation if you will
+
+01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:53.560
+of the the new vaccines causing a DNA change which I'm sure it could happen on a few cells but
+
+01:09:53.560 --> 01:10:01.240
+one's entire body does not change it's DNA if some cells are augmented there can be cancers
+
+01:10:01.240 --> 01:10:07.560
+there can be all kinds of other horrible things we don't know but the the language is very overly
+
+01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:13.240
+simplified and getting people completely freaked out perhaps intentionally so they don't have
+
+01:10:14.040 --> 01:10:22.680
+scientifically well grounded conversations Jonathan highlights this all the time uh the oversimplification
+
+01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:29.240
+and you have to simplify so people can understand it but it's being done intentionally um so I know it's
+
+01:10:29.240 --> 01:10:34.280
+um so I know it's a if I if I just if I just ask you one question uh and I know it's a little bit a little
+
+01:10:34.280 --> 01:10:39.240
+bit a little bit of rabbit hole maybe it's just the answers yes or no since you're working on a book
+
+01:10:39.240 --> 01:10:45.240
+you're working on a book called never again have you ever worked with collaborated with or have us
+
+01:10:45.240 --> 01:10:53.160
+and or even just a story of dr David Hamburg Hamburg Hamburg David Hamburg who ran the
+
+01:10:53.720 --> 01:10:59.800
+uh supposedly was one of the biggest uh fighters against genocide he was the president of the
+
+01:10:59.800 --> 01:11:07.640
+Carnegie Institute for 15 years he's the father of Margaret Hamburg the FDA director um oh really
+
+01:11:08.200 --> 01:11:14.920
+yeah and uh he saw he was a combination psychologist and geneticist uh kind of a big hitter but
+
+01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:21.400
+he claims to have been a big fighter he got noble prizes for fighting against genocide and
+
+01:11:21.400 --> 01:11:27.960
+I just don't really I can't measure but since in your line of work and research is that a name that
+
+01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:33.080
+has come up as wow he's done a lot of good things or you just your response is saying that you're
+
+01:11:33.080 --> 01:11:41.880
+not familiar which is amazing yeah it's interesting look I mean the people who are touted as the
+
+01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:50.200
+you know authorities in very they not necessarily really the real movers and shakers those who um
+
+01:11:52.120 --> 01:11:58.120
+look I mean the Holocaust is very politicized yes
+
+01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:05.800
+the Holocaust has been very weaponized I mean the best examples is Germany you know in Germany
+
+01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:15.240
+there are actually laws that criminalize anyone who mentions the Holocaust vis-a-vis anything
+
+01:12:15.240 --> 01:12:23.640
+today or you know contemporary you're just not allowed to can I just interject here about Germany
+
+01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:31.160
+when we were when I moved over there from my PhD and met my wife um and she lives in the south
+
+01:12:31.160 --> 01:12:35.560
+of the Netherlands so it's really close to the German border and I don't remember what year it
+
+01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:41.960
+was but I think it was it would have been like 2002 maybe that the World Cup was in Germany
+
+01:12:42.520 --> 01:12:48.360
+and everybody in the Netherlands was commenting that it's the first time they had seen Germans
+
+01:12:48.360 --> 01:12:56.280
+wave the German flag in years well what's your speaking about though it's the shame that they
+
+01:12:56.280 --> 01:13:06.040
+have and the kind of you know long-term effect that that it just had it I don't know it anyway
+
+01:13:06.040 --> 01:13:13.320
+sorry I didn't mean to interrupt no no but you see it's a quixotic thing at the same time they're
+
+01:13:13.320 --> 01:13:23.080
+also full of the Ukrainian flags with the Nazi symbol I mean Bandera I visited the great one
+
+01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:33.640
+I was in Germany for the first time in 2022 for the Nuremberg the 75th anniversary of the Nuremberg
+
+01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:43.000
+code and I visited a few things and one of the things was also went to Munich and visited the
+
+01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:52.840
+grave of Bandera and of Sophie Scholl it's the same different cemetery but in the same city and
+
+01:13:52.840 --> 01:13:59.640
+what was really shocking was that Bandera has this whole where people are you know are
+
+01:13:59.640 --> 01:14:05.720
+agulating I mean this is a place to go and worship it's full of regalia full of all sorts of things
+
+01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:13.880
+that I'm saying to myself why is Germany hosting and probably paying for this I thought they're
+
+01:14:13.880 --> 01:14:26.920
+anti-Nazi you see wow nothing is what it's stated to be and the point about the Holocaust being
+
+01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:36.440
+weaponized is that it's being used to shut conversations about reality and about current or
+
+01:14:36.440 --> 01:14:48.760
+anything under the umbrella of Holocaust so essentially a lot of institutions including Jewish
+
+01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:55.720
+institutions have made the Holocaust irrelevant to history and that's the crime
+
+01:14:57.560 --> 01:15:05.640
+the whole point of all these memorials and all of that is never going to remember to warn never
+
+01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:12.840
+again you know but now it's never again is now and I call it global it's again it's
+
+01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:19.880
+you know it's really ever only become clear to me right now that that message so you're really
+
+01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:26.280
+saying that by making the Holocaust so special essentially you can never accuse it of occurring
+
+01:15:26.280 --> 01:15:32.040
+again they've sort of made it impossible for us to say oh no it's really happening now no no it
+
+01:15:32.680 --> 01:15:40.040
+it can't happen again or something yes it is and the point is that when more survivors were alive
+
+01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:49.880
+and Ellie Bazel who was you know he was really the spokesman for the victims and he was a
+
+01:15:51.080 --> 01:16:00.040
+Auschwitz survivor and a Nobel laureate and he chaired the president's commission for the
+
+01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:08.200
+Holocaust was under Carter and they wrote a this is in 79 they wrote a
+
+01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:15.320
+report to the president and the main thing was that they warned that the Nazi
+
+01:16:18.440 --> 01:16:25.240
+threat is real now still and now you're not allowed to say that
+
+01:16:26.120 --> 01:16:32.120
+and it's not the threat it's not the German threat if you watch a big modern video games
+
+01:16:32.120 --> 01:16:40.520
+it's nothing but thousands of Aryan Germans just going around being awful people when we are finding
+
+01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:48.840
+a lot of evidence of a lot of nations participating absolutely in in these events so it's all it's
+
+01:16:48.920 --> 01:16:56.680
+wanted to be described as I mean that look the tragedy happened that's not what's up for debate
+
+01:16:57.320 --> 01:17:05.160
+what's up for debate is how who participated was it you know blue collar factory workers in Germany
+
+01:17:05.160 --> 01:17:11.560
+wasn't really their idea meanwhile we see we have finding receipts of the Rockefeller Institute
+
+01:17:12.360 --> 01:17:15.480
+sending scientists in 1938-39 to Germany
+
+01:17:17.960 --> 01:17:25.800
+that is the stuff that no one wants to talk about that it's ongoing it's in a continuous threat
+
+01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:34.520
+and I say today it's the Nazi it's the heirs to the Nazis
+
+01:17:35.160 --> 01:17:43.880
+Nazi is a culture it's a mindset it's an ideology it's not a you know German or this or that no
+
+01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:53.640
+that's nonsense and really eugenics which is the foundation of Nazi is guess what British
+
+01:17:55.320 --> 01:18:02.280
+it's the British until again so that came up with the theory the whole thing you know
+
+01:18:03.080 --> 01:18:10.760
+applying the you know the animal Darwinism to people it's really the welcome trust
+
+01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:16.840
+it's the welcome trust the welcome library the university college london and it's
+
+01:18:18.360 --> 01:18:23.320
+I mean chadam house chadam house yep Rockefeller Foundation the Carnegie institution I can't
+
+01:18:23.320 --> 01:18:29.720
+recommend enough this book called war against the weak it's eugenics in america's campaign to
+
+01:18:29.800 --> 01:18:37.720
+create a master race it's unbelievable yeah well this is just it I mean Americans don't want to
+
+01:18:38.440 --> 01:18:45.560
+know and neither do the British but yeah they're very complicit they were very complicit from
+
+01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:56.760
+A to Z and the fact is that in 1938 a in avian there was a conference of 32 countries
+
+01:18:57.480 --> 01:19:02.840
+the jewish problem and the question was whether they would take in
+
+01:19:04.200 --> 01:19:12.200
+jews who tried to flee Germany and every one of those 32 country delegates said they couldn't take
+
+01:19:12.200 --> 01:19:22.600
+a single Jew that's when Hitler said okay that's it they closed the gates no more exit
+
+01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:31.080
+and then eventually you know the final solution but Hitler didn't dare do things
+
+01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:35.320
+until he realized no one was going to object
+
+01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:48.440
+the irony is that there are you know there is a resurrection of some you know
+
+01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:56.120
+uh fascist in Germany you know and it's unfortunate that that's the strongest party
+
+01:19:56.120 --> 01:20:03.560
+against the sitting government that's you know here we go again it's like either or and that
+
+01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:11.480
+is how Hitler came to power too um that's really really unfortunate because the fact that there
+
+01:20:11.480 --> 01:20:17.240
+isn't really a middle ground in other words there's a corruption of those who are in power and the
+
+01:20:17.320 --> 01:20:19.000
+ones who want to get in are fascist
+
+01:20:22.040 --> 01:20:29.640
+what do you do the fact is though the reality is that Germany right was not the only ones who
+
+01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:39.960
+put this together they were totally financed and helped with the war machinery that they didn't have
+
+01:20:41.080 --> 01:20:45.960
+Germany didn't have they didn't have the money and they didn't have the armament that was all
+
+01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:55.480
+provided by the west this is this history no one wants to revisit that's right
+
+01:20:57.080 --> 01:21:03.640
+so i'm the skunk at the tea party wherever i call it has to you know i mean
+
+01:21:05.080 --> 01:21:10.920
+i'm hoping to meet you at the uh at the conference this year that would be uh that would be a blessing
+
+01:21:11.400 --> 01:21:18.440
+um we're still all working our travel plans and stuff out but that would be fantastic
+
+01:21:18.440 --> 01:21:25.480
+and i don't want to speak for anyone else here who may or may not be going i'll let you to self-identify
+
+01:21:28.440 --> 01:21:35.880
+no i mean uh you know as uh JJ is saying you know we're working in a book which is never again
+
+01:21:35.960 --> 01:21:43.000
+is now global genocide because that's what it is we've got to really understand that and
+
+01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:47.400
+get people to realize it's that serious this is about genocide today
+
+01:21:48.280 --> 01:21:57.160
+and i've and not some other time now if i could just say one thing i have watched so many Holocaust
+
+01:21:57.160 --> 01:22:02.120
+movies and so many documentaries and i kind of believe that this is happening right now
+
+01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:05.800
+and people are not believing it the same strategy
+
+01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:13.960
+same same things happening i mean my my husband right now his grandmother was a Holocaust survivor
+
+01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:19.960
+they hid in the you know from Germany through Poland left his mom in Poland with a farmer
+
+01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:25.240
+you know they hid on the ground and just before the war ended they shot his grandfather
+
+01:22:25.320 --> 01:22:32.680
+his mom survived his grandma survived i mean she died of one or two but i mean they had stories
+
+01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:37.560
+to tell and the young people don't want to believe that this is happening this is really
+
+01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:45.800
+genocide it is and the tragedy is that in israel they haven't learned the history yeah that's the
+
+01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:57.880
+tragedy and um i just i just wanted to mention that in 1970 i was i was at dakau and i can remember
+
+01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:08.040
+walking through the gates and you could no one spoke it was the most reverent hallowed ground
+
+01:23:08.440 --> 01:23:17.960
+that you could walk on and i saw a video not long ago and i saw all these people walking
+
+01:23:17.960 --> 01:23:27.480
+through laughing carrying on and and i actually it actually brought me to tears the stark difference
+
+01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:38.840
+between 50 years ago basically and today yeah like veer is right we we you know the
+
+01:23:40.280 --> 01:23:45.960
+we have we can't stop we just sometimes sometimes down to the same families
+
+01:23:46.920 --> 01:23:51.720
+and this is the uh some of the work that i've been doing and other people i collaborate with the same
+
+01:23:52.600 --> 01:24:01.800
+uh you know a polish scientist hillary kabrowski who i i'm not sure was a genuinely a refugee because there weren't many
+
+01:24:03.480 --> 01:24:12.040
+i would just say escapees from poland in 1939 that we're able to move directly to
+
+01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:19.240
+south america and start working for the rockafeller institute this is a couple questions there
+
+01:24:20.040 --> 01:24:27.720
+but it was him in philadelphia as a senior person at the wister institute he was one of the three
+
+01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:34.360
+people who's involved in the polio vaccines one of his versus salt and then years later he's a
+
+01:24:34.360 --> 01:24:38.840
+co-founder i you don't have to remember these details but a company called centricore which was
+
+01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:44.280
+one of the first companies to make monoclonal antibodies and then you follow that up and we
+
+01:24:44.360 --> 01:24:50.360
+have people in our research today who are involved with these particular patent disputes of these
+
+01:24:50.360 --> 01:24:57.480
+people i mean like one generation removed this isn't just uh you know just a particular theme i
+
+01:24:57.480 --> 01:25:05.800
+mean this is this is a machine that's been ongoing and and yes i've seen the the prank photos of
+
+01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:13.800
+people at the uh you know posing in particular ways ouch watson i i don't know it's just
+
+01:25:15.400 --> 01:25:22.040
+disrespectful is not the right word you know i really that you have to do that for a laugh
+
+01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:29.000
+i don't know i don't know what to say i don't know what to say i think that if you circle back to
+
+01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:37.160
+what you just said before that it is really important to summarize that big bad big picture
+
+01:25:37.160 --> 01:25:42.920
+idea that one of the the tricks to understanding what's going on here is that the people that are
+
+01:25:42.920 --> 01:25:52.920
+involved in this have played a a multi-generational game that we don't we don't play i'm not playing
+
+01:25:52.920 --> 01:25:59.400
+a game about my grandchildren right now i'm not positioning pieces on the board to make sure
+
+01:25:59.400 --> 01:26:06.760
+that my grandchildren have is more wealth than i have now because i can't and so my game has played
+
+01:26:06.760 --> 01:26:14.840
+you know weeks and and maybe months in the future whereas we are up against family dynasties that
+
+01:26:14.840 --> 01:26:22.200
+have been playing multi-generational games for more than a few decades and so we can't underestimate
+
+01:26:22.200 --> 01:26:27.560
+that that that's another reason why they don't mind lying to us because we're not part of that
+
+01:26:27.560 --> 01:26:36.680
+group so it's not like lying to your family members it's uh i really think that that is a big part of
+
+01:26:36.680 --> 01:26:43.000
+understanding this that we are not in that group you know not to keep quoting george carlin but
+
+01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:47.880
+we're we're really not in that group we want to be but yes exactly yeah
+
+01:26:48.040 --> 01:26:53.160
+well thank you well we made progress there's been more shown there's been more revealed
+
+01:26:53.800 --> 01:27:02.040
+in the last uh well a couple of years um you know i i have to in spite of uh uh uh uh how
+
+01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:15.800
+you know serious it's the the the costs have been uh you know globally and and what the situation
+
+01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:23.560
+the world is in and to your point Vera's right but much has been acknowledged and it's going to be
+
+01:27:23.560 --> 01:27:31.960
+a battle there's going to be a continuous battle to uh to clamp down uh the analysis the information
+
+01:27:31.960 --> 01:27:37.240
+and we're just going to keep fighting to stay ahead of it to what point i don't know i don't know
+
+01:27:37.240 --> 01:27:44.440
+how this ends maybe it never ends but all i know is we have to do our particular part the best we can
+
+01:27:44.440 --> 01:27:48.920
+and hopefully you know you get the ball you carry it far enough and someone else will pick
+
+01:27:48.920 --> 01:27:56.760
+it up at some point and uh uh if thank goodness jonathan's been in this there's so few people
+
+01:27:57.320 --> 01:28:06.760
+in of his caliber that have you know and he's had a family that has been willing to go through
+
+01:28:06.760 --> 01:28:13.240
+this with him boy it's uh because it's people are enforced like in the tech industry people are in
+
+01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:19.240
+the whole system is designed to make you feel comfortable enough with your insurance and
+
+01:28:19.240 --> 01:28:23.720
+your whatever your your your your salary and of course everyone's got a mortgage right
+
+01:28:24.520 --> 01:28:31.080
+uh it's really um it's really hard to step out of it so i appreciate everything you do jonathan
+
+01:28:32.360 --> 01:28:39.560
+and for taking an awful lot of punches thrown your way lately man though and i think we all see it
+
+01:28:39.560 --> 01:28:43.320
+and we appreciate it but the punches are something that you know i think
+
+01:28:44.680 --> 01:28:51.800
+um the allegory of the cave is often a story that isn't finished because they tell the story of the
+
+01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:55.880
+people in the cave and they tell the story of the shadows and they tell the story of somebody
+
+01:28:55.880 --> 01:29:01.800
+getting out of the cave and then realizing that they're in the cave but the story actually goes on
+
+01:29:01.800 --> 01:29:09.000
+in that book because the guy goes back into the cave to try and tell the people in the cave what he
+
+01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:15.240
+saw and when he comes back into the cave his eyes are now adjusted to the outside and so he can't
+
+01:29:15.240 --> 01:29:20.280
+see the shadows on the wall anymore and so the people that are still in the cave think he's lost
+
+01:29:20.280 --> 01:29:27.640
+his mind because what he used to be able to see on the wall and agree on he can't see it anymore
+
+01:29:27.640 --> 01:29:36.680
+and so there is a time in every sort of philosopher or leader's life where this arc of a hero you have
+
+01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:42.360
+to go through this pain of going back into the cave and having people reject the truth
+
+01:29:43.640 --> 01:29:48.840
+and so vira maybe more than anybody can tell us that that's what we're going through right now
+
+01:29:48.840 --> 01:29:53.320
+that people have to reject the truth before they're gonna they're gonna pull themselves out of the
+
+01:29:53.320 --> 01:30:01.480
+cave but you know bobby kennedy said something which is true uh we have to do what sisyphus did
+
+01:30:01.560 --> 01:30:09.480
+even though it's totally frustrating keep lugging that rock up and then it rolls down and over and
+
+01:30:09.480 --> 01:30:18.200
+over you have to do what you have to do we cannot tell we cannot foresee what may actually change
+
+01:30:18.200 --> 01:30:25.560
+things what will cause you know what will ignite something we cannot predict that so all we can do
+
+01:30:25.560 --> 01:30:33.240
+is what we can do and if we don't it's you know i mean then we can't blame anyone
+
+01:30:34.040 --> 01:30:41.800
+for the bad turnout if we participate if we do what we think is right to do what we can
+
+01:30:42.600 --> 01:30:47.160
+and you really i don't think anybody can foretell which
+
+01:30:47.320 --> 01:30:58.200
+which action which pullback which anything will change the equation we can't predict that you
+
+01:30:58.200 --> 01:31:08.680
+really can't but if enough of us do it something is going to work and we we saw that actually that
+
+01:31:08.760 --> 01:31:18.520
+i think the turning point in this covid thing was when the fda said yeah it's okay to inject the
+
+01:31:18.520 --> 01:31:28.200
+six-month-olds the mamas woke up all of a sudden the mamas woke up they had to close clinics in
+
+01:31:28.200 --> 01:31:36.360
+new york and not only that but as a result of this whole thing the mamas aren't bringing the
+
+01:31:36.360 --> 01:31:44.600
+children for their childhood schedule either maybe they're realizing hey maybe we shouldn't do
+
+01:31:44.600 --> 01:31:54.120
+this either they overplayed their cards i don't think we've taken as much advantage of this thing
+
+01:31:54.120 --> 01:32:03.240
+as we should but we need to understand this is their weak spot the mamas so while they're trying
+
+01:32:03.240 --> 01:32:07.000
+to eliminate you know i don't know if any of you saw you know this thing about
+
+01:32:07.720 --> 01:32:12.440
+i i don't know a whole hour he goes around all over the world what's the definition of a woman
+
+01:32:12.440 --> 01:32:19.640
+and nobody can tell him what you're talking about it's great you know suddenly you know kindergarten
+
+01:32:19.640 --> 01:32:25.080
+stuff then nobody can you're not allowed to that's why they they know you know they're being restricted
+
+01:32:25.960 --> 01:32:31.320
+from saying what's the difference between a man and woman all right one of the things i could
+
+01:32:31.320 --> 01:32:39.240
+tell you somebody who is doing a chapter in my book kenzi was the beginning of this stuff kenzi
+
+01:32:39.240 --> 01:32:47.000
+the revolution in sex is so-called scientific revolution it was all fraud are you surprised of
+
+01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:54.520
+course not of course not but that's the truth it was all fraud and kenzi had one chapter there that
+
+01:32:54.520 --> 01:33:03.480
+nobody paid attention to and that was that he relied on a nazi a nazi pedophile i mean one of the
+
+01:33:03.480 --> 01:33:19.160
+worst for claiming the that the infant is sexual they tortured little children infants masturbating
+
+01:33:19.160 --> 01:33:24.840
+them all night and hours and hours and hours in you know rooms that were
+
+01:33:26.840 --> 01:33:32.040
+uh what do you call them what they use in psych wards and stuff you know where they're
+
+01:33:32.040 --> 01:33:37.320
+pattering you can't hear the noise but you can imagine and just think about it and and this is all
+
+01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:49.080
+very carefully documented how many children which how long it took and all this kind of
+
+01:33:49.560 --> 01:33:57.880
+it's horrific it's not and he was a nazi and kenzi traveled to him to get the data and that's what
+
+01:33:57.880 --> 01:34:07.480
+he used in his book to start the ball rolling the children infants are sexual see it laid the
+
+01:34:07.480 --> 01:34:15.560
+groundwork for what's going on now with the transgender and all this this is no it's it's
+
+01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:24.440
+really the degradation of the human being just unbelievable it's a long game though and that's
+
+01:34:24.440 --> 01:34:29.800
+the part that a lot of people have a hard time believing that it's such a long game but it really
+
+01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:38.520
+has been it has been a long game it's unbelievable and i know i have gay friends and they're horrified
+
+01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:47.400
+by this whole thing absolutely horrible what children dry queens children i mean it just
+
+01:34:48.280 --> 01:34:52.920
+i mean the few gay friends that i have that are my age are all convinced that if they would have
+
+01:34:52.920 --> 01:34:58.520
+been young in this time somebody would have cut them because they were so
+
+01:34:59.240 --> 01:35:04.040
+influenceable and if that was an option that was drilled into them you know
+
+01:35:04.840 --> 01:35:08.680
+with Facebook and whatever else who knows what have happened to them
+
+01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:15.080
+and you know it's already a struggle to to find yourself as a homosexual never mind
+
+01:35:16.440 --> 01:35:21.000
+when the society is telling you that there's this infinite spectrum and you might be lost on it
+
+01:35:24.280 --> 01:35:32.600
+it's look i mean this is really uh the demolition of the human species but it's both morally and
+
+01:35:32.600 --> 01:35:40.440
+actually physically yeah and spiritually really that's the worst it's a complete take down yeah
+
+01:35:43.640 --> 01:35:50.360
+and you know we read just you to prevent it i mean who else right i know it seems like we're a
+
+01:35:50.360 --> 01:36:01.880
+raggedy tag but you know um as i said you know the mamas and i do think that i think the united
+
+01:36:01.880 --> 01:36:10.920
+states those those um silent majority what we used to call that's what we have to look to
+
+01:36:12.200 --> 01:36:15.720
+they're also armed by the way no one else in the world is
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+never until now did i come to realize how important that second amendment is
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+because the way in which the media tries to paint the armed is as if they're all psychopaths
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+and they're going around shooting up with schools and all that that's not true it's not true at all
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+that second amendment is to protect you against government
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+it is that's right government and that's where we're up against now
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+so i really you know you're everyone looks really to the united states to get us out of
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+we did it we launched this thing and now we've got to get us out of it i so agree
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+shall we uh shall we say it um say happy birthday to mark and uh call in a show yep is that okay
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+vira thank you very much for joining me rebecca marie um jeff we didn't get to say hi to you but
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+you're welcome to say hi right now if you want hi jeff i care uh hey guys those are two of my
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+best supporters up in canada and i probably just probably want to tell you that they're
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+also very good fans of yours hi guys oh thank you thank you it's great to meet you all and
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+we've just been hunker and yeah just wonderful conversation the battle up there oh yeah we got
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+the one million march thing tomorrow we we discussed that this is probably just more division because
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+people are just they don't want to come together they exaggerate both sides they misinterpret
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+it's just brutal and uh but luckily luckily we had uh a divine connection to jonathan or kara did
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+a couple years ago that's kept our heads just kind of bobbing over the social of madness
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+and you know it's just don't get wrapped up in the in the hubbub too much you know just try and keep
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+and even keel you know because you need to conserve your energy it's been said tonight
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+01:38:42.440 --> 01:38:50.680
+already it just this is a long game and you just can't spend it all in one one shot but uh anyway
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+yeah thanks for thanks for the shout out thanks for the invite happy birthday mark and happy birthday
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+mark thank you thank you thank you guys thank you for being there and enriching my life and
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+and uh this is why i'm doing it for all of you thank you i love all you guys
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+01:39:09.640 --> 01:39:14.120
+i work close some more longer with you guys and i've been closer to you than any co-worker's i've
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+01:39:14.120 --> 01:39:25.320
+ever had in my life so thank you thank you jonathan you're very welcome mark thank you all for joining me
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+i'm gonna cut this show you guys can stay if you want to talk with mark afterward
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+01:39:31.160 --> 01:39:35.560
+um thanks very much for joining me everybody happy birthday to mark tomorrow and i'll see you
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+guys live tomorrow as well because every day we're on thanks very much good night everyone
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+01:39:44.440 --> 01:39:52.680
+good night hi mark hey hello still hanging on there how are you doing i'm doing okay
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+oh
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+Sorry I'm late ladies and gentlemen, this is gonna go on biological every night every day
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+He's going on French British Italian Japanese television people everywhere are starting to listen to him. It's embarrassing
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+Hey listen to this gang. Teenage sleuths solved bone hijacking mystery. Captain Cutler and his wife taken into custody by sheriff
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+That was some plan they had first spreading the phony story about cover and then stealing the yachts from the marina
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+That night on the beach color was storing extra scuba tanks in the graveyard of shit
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+Yeah, but like his diving suit got covered with that cookey glowing seaweed
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+And that's where the glowing ghost story came from
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+Well that closes the mystery
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+How did scuba do with that? I guess that's another mystery
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+Oh
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+Good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is the own biological since 20th of September 2023
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+I thought I'd take a look at an interesting
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+alternate player in the scuba doo
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+A very integral player in the beginning of the scuba doo actually part of laying down this spectrum of debate very early on in
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+2020 and I think we can learn something about drastic and about what drastic likely was
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+By thinking carefully about what we can show you in these first couple videos
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+I'm I'm really curious as to see looking back. I will affect you. Definitely affected me a lot
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+I think it's a really really cool. It's a really really cool look back. I'm supposed to have a sound effect there. Yeah
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+Something like that. I don't know what
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+Hello ladies and gentlemen hello
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+Welcome to the show. I'm fresh off of the set of
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+Brian Hooker's doctors and scientists podcast
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+So I surprised him by wearing his shirt that I got at the bus the other day and we had a really interesting discussion
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+Where I
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+Does that work? No that doesn't work
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+Where I drew a picture of the immune system and we talked about all kinds of things to do with the
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+Transfection and we had a really nice conversation. So I hope that's gonna be out
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+I don't know when that comes out. Does it come out tomorrow? Maybe I don't know
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+But when I find out what it is out, I will tell you that it's out
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+Please don't take the bait on social media. Don't take the bait on TV. It's gonna get worse
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+That's one of their plans right is to keep us endlessly endlessly divided and especially on our side now
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+The waking up of
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+As Vera said last night on Mark's happy birthday stream
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+the mamas have woken up and
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+There may be no turning back now and so the consequences of this could be quite severe and the question is how will the system react and
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+We can almost guarantee that they're gonna try and fragment us
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+So that there isn't one united front
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+With regard to vaccination with regard to health freedom
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+So I think we all have to really be aware that to a certain extent that message of don't divide is real
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+On the other hand we have to be very careful that we don't allow
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+Fake rather than grassroots
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+Manufactured rather than grassroots that we don't let
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+Installed people that have deep ties to the system that we were trying to break
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+That aren't posing as people who could be trying to help us but in reality might walk us right back into the wood jipper
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+And so I think it's really important and I was able to explain this pretty well on Brian's podcast that we realize that
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+The transfection is not immunization and that more importantly we come to the realization that any combination of chemicals that's inter injected intramuscularly is is a pretty silly way of augmenting the immune system
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+I would like to also encourage you to go back and watch the Twiv episode from the other day because the Twiv episode from the other day covers some of the more subtle nuances of antibody dependent
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+memory as it were and I think it's a really neat example of how you can have these five virologists talking about immunology and they can walk right past the elephant and not see it
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+They also talked about engineering of RNA viruses with CRISPR
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+They tried to make it seem like it was a pretty neat thing but they kind of glossed over the fact that in order for them to do any of the experiments that they did they were more or less just transfecting RNA into cell cultures and then looking for fluorescence
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+And the things that they were injecting there had to be only could be made through recombinant DNA technology converted to RNA and then transfected into those cells
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+So they're using the exact cloning technology that I came to realize about a year ago is the only way you could explain how a high fidelity full coronavirus sequence identical to a coronavirus sequence found in five or six other disparate locations on Earth could exist
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+It's because it had to be put there by clone
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+So we've had the way that we changed just been fundamentally inverted by people and the narrative on television combined with the counter narrative on social media
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+And the clever part of that is the idea that even if you think you're going against the TV there's still another safety wall and another safety wall here of narrative to keep you in and that's what all of these players have enabled
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+They have enabled the idea that people would come to the general understanding that yes you can be vulnerable to a novel virus and everybody can be vulnerable to it
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+They changed fundamentally the way we think about all cause mortality by making us not think about it
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+Nobody's been putting any of these numbers into context and in retrospect nobody's putting these numbers into context
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+If you said a billion people were going to die in March of 2022 by the end of this and you're off by oh I don't know a billion people then we have a pretty serious problem on our hands
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+If you said that antibodies were the reason why you needed to be worried about this virus and that antibodies were the only thing to think about
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+And you weren't let's say clever enough to teach real immunology based from antigen presenting cell to T cell to B cell then you were part of this
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+And if you didn't take the time to learn the immunology well enough to know that transfection isn't a form of immunization
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+And get to the point where you realize wow immunization is kind of a weird thing isn't it in Western society
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+The way that we protect it the way that is worshipped
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+And so all of these changes that they brought about were really mystical they were magical changes that enchanted everyone and they were laid down before the pandemic
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+So that when we went into this pandemic and the fear was ramped up and the confusion was ramped up and the doubt was ramped up
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+that everybody would accept these biological ultimatums and that would make possible some very serious serious iatrogenic murder
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+People being ventilated that could talk people given remdesivir when that may be good for nothing
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+Untreated secondary pneumonia and mass for a couple months three months a year depending on how long this and where he looked
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+Plus this idea of shutting society down which we can never let them do again
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+And so I believe that we have been brought into this with this very carefully sculpted narrative so it would feel like we were free thinking but we weren't actually free thinking
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+It would feel like people were really fighting in front of the Senate but they weren't actually really fighting in front of the Senate
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+It would feel like emails were being redacted but they weren't actually being redacted
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+It would feel like slack messages were being released but they weren't actually being leaked
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+It would feel like Pfizer executives were being filmed in restaurants but it's not really true
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+And so it's this kind of controlled narrative that has allowed us to feel as though we were solving the mystery that were teenagers sleuths solving the mystery
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+That was what drastic was all about was about getting a bunch of people together to create a momentum behind the scenes that could be blamed could be credited with the lab leak hypothesis
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+And that lab leak hypothesis is based on this idea that in the scientific literature pandemic potential has already been described in reviews and described in the introductions and the discussions of papers have to do with coronaviruses and bats
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+That have to do with passage of coronaviruses in cell culture that have to do with flu virus
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+Passaging in animals
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+And have to do with recombinant viruses in the laboratory
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+And all of these stories have allowed them to scare the living daylights out of us by pretending that they were covering up a lab leak
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+And we're so scared we're about to give up our sovereign rights over our bodies over our babies in the name of public health I guess
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+And so I've been trying to dissect the people map of this because I think that wittingly or unwittingly we've got to wake people up that can be woken up to the idea that maybe a lot of this mystery was a hoax
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+Maybe a lot of this biology was a mythology
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+And maybe the mythology started a lot earlier than 2020
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+And so that's what we've been working on here. I think the people in green are probably doing pretty well
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+I think the people in yellow might be able to be converted maybe I don't know possibly
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+And I think the people in red are so committed that I don't know what to say so I got to assume that they might be lost
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+Or I don't know what but we maybe can convert them to
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+But some way or another we've got to break out of this very limited spectrum of discussion that involves
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+There was a novel virus and that we had to do something and that the mRNA did something
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+Whether it's pushing the virus around now or whether it's saved people before
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+And it was getting a function so it could come again
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+We've got to push our way out of this trap
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+Because this faith is so limiting it will trap our grandchildren
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+This story about a novel virus that was released in 2020
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+So if you remember I was a mild-mannered patch clamp physiologist
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+I used to make recordings from two or more neurons at the same time
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+And see if they were connected
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+And I did that in mouse and rat brain slices
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+Very mundane
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+Niche work
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+Only you know you don't impress people with that at a coffee or at a
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+Dinner party very often
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+But I have publications that go back to the year 2000 or 2001
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+Maybe 2002
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+I've worked in Switzerland doing this. I've learned this from a guy by the name of Henry Markram
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+Who was actually the guy who was the head of the the blue brain project and the human brain project
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+I believe was it called the human brain project?
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+Anyway, it was a billion dollar a billion dollar ten year grant in the EU
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+It was very controversial
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+I'm not saying that that guy was some kind of super smart wizard guy
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+He was actually maybe a little a little smart and a little bit of sales money
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+He now works or he actually started the frontiers line of scientific journals
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+But there's no question he was a visionary in terms of thinking about how we could think about solving the problem of the brain
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+I'm not saying that he made tremendous progress in that direction
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+But he made a lot of progress in getting people to think big about trying to do that
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+And here's me building a rig in Norway or working on my rig in Norway
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+Where I had a co-authorship on a science paper and a nature paper and so it's like a nature neuroscience paper
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+It's just to say that I had a decent career. I mean I wasn't a
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+Flunky
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+Pittsburgh kind of resigning to the fact that I was going to be a middle a middle guy
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+And I might not be the head of the department ever but I did I thought I deserved my own lab
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+I thought I could definitely have my own lab and so I was thinking I was going to write a grant and get some money eventually
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+And so I had this YouTube channel and on this YouTube channel
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+I was doing neuroscience and then I started on February 21st is my third ride where I was talking about COVID-19
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+And here I'm giving credit to Harvard to the big house because you know Harvard to the big house was the guy that
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+Oops, sorry about that that was here. I'm giving credit to Harvard to the big house because
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+It was his blog that really got me started on this and made me realize wow wait
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+That's right. They did enrich avian flu at Erasmus while I was there. That's a little weird
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+I know all about this stuff
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+And so it got me really fired up and I actually did lots of videos on it. I did one here this one on the bottom
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+I think is about
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+Yeah the proximal origin paper
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+And then a year later vanity fair
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+And the Newsweek and Tucker Carlson covered it
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+And if you listen carefully to what Tucker Carlson is going to say
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+He's going to say something about a guy by the name of Jamie Metzel
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+He's going to answer the letter to censor anyone on social media who mentioned the possibility of a lab leak
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+It can't be true the lancet says it's not true 27 eminent scientists say it's not true
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+Only a few scientists in the face of all of this dare to speak up
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+One of them was called Jill Dumanov
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+He formed a group of researchers called Drastic that's an acronym for decentralized radical autonomous search team
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+Something that all scientists should be
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+And so now what you see here is one Jamie Metzel who you heard that Tucker Carlson said was one of the founders
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+I think that if I had to just bet based on what I've read and logic
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+I would bet it's most likely this was an accidental leak
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+And so now what you see here is one Jamie Metzel who you heard that Tucker Carlson said was one of the founders
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+Jamie Metzel who you heard that Tucker Carlson said was one of the founding members of drastic and he was never in drastic
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+And the guy that he said did start drastic was a guy who joined drastic about a year after it was formed
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+And he was also not originally in drastic
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+So at the time the guy who actually started drastic or the Twitter account that actually started drastic is Billy Bo Stix
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+And if you know anything about Twitter if you start a direct messaging group
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+There's only one account that is the curator of who gets in and who gets out and that's Billy Bo Stix
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+So before drastic split in half
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+And before I spoke out about transfection I was still all on board with this is probably a lab leak
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+And then this story comes out a year later
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+And now I'm out of drastic, drastic is split
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+And they talk about this on Tucker Carlson
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+And they say that these two guys are the start of drastic
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+Now what's weird about it is is Jamie Metzel is not nobody
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+He's a former national security council staff member of the Clinton administration
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+It's a pretty trusted Clinton individual
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+And I think that's really really important in terms of putting him in place because if we go to Jamie Metzel
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+Before the pandemic and then go to Jamie Metzel about a year into the pandemic
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+I think we're going to see some very big parallels between people like him and Peter Teal
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+And Eric Weinstein and Brett Weinstein and Elon Musk
+
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+And everyone else who might call themselves a futurist
+
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+Which usually are subtitled like futurist transhumanist
+
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+So I've got a couple videos picked out here
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+I'm going to watch the one first that is from 2019
+
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+And then we'll watch the one from 2021
+
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+I might have to make myself a little tan here
+
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+Open any major news source and what do you see?
+
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+We see Trump, we see Brexit
+
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+But 30 years from now, 50 years from now, 100 years from now
+
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+People are going to look back at now and they're not going to be talking about Trump
+
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+They're not going to be talking about Brexit
+
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+What they are going to be saying is that now was the moment
+
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+When after 3.8 billion years of evolving
+
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+By the set of rules we called our winning evolution of random mutation and natural selection
+
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+This was the moment when our species took increasingly active control of our own evolution
+
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+Think about that for a moment, think about how profound that is
+
+22:28.600 --> 22:33.600
+When Watson and Crick identified the double helix structure of DNA in the 1950s
+
+22:34.600 --> 22:38.600
+What they were doing was identifying that the book of life had a structure
+
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+And the structure was the famous double helix
+
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+And with the fruition of the Human Genome Project in 2003
+
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+What we were doing was identifying that the book of life could be read
+
+22:50.600 --> 22:54.600
+In the A's and C's and T's and G's of genetic code
+
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+And now at the dawn of the age of human precision gene editing
+
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+With tools like CRISPR we're recognizing that the book of life can be written
+
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+When we think about technologies that are readable and writable and hackable
+
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+We think about information technology
+
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+As a matter of fact we recognize the variability of our IT so much
+
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+That we have a built-in assumption that every new version of our iPhone is going to be better and stronger than the last one
+
+23:26.600 --> 23:31.600
+And yet for some reason we think about our biology as being fixed
+
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+But why do we think that? Somehow we evolved from being single cell organisms almost 4 billion years ago to this
+
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+And we've only been homo sapiens for around 300,000 years
+
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+And yet it's all we know
+
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+But with these tools of the genetic revolution
+
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+We are going to be able to fundamentally transform our biology
+
+23:56.600 --> 23:58.600
+So don't misunderstand what I'm saying here
+
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+This is a person preaching
+
+24:02.600 --> 24:04.600
+He's selling a faith
+
+24:06.600 --> 24:09.600
+He's not trying to convince you of what's real
+
+24:10.600 --> 24:12.600
+He's trying to convince you of what's possible
+
+24:13.600 --> 24:17.600
+And that's what's very very important to understand here
+
+24:18.600 --> 24:20.600
+These people know that we're not there yet
+
+24:21.600 --> 24:23.600
+These people know that we may never get there
+
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+But that's not the idea
+
+24:26.600 --> 24:30.600
+The idea is to sell there as a destination worth aiming at
+
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+And that it's so worth aiming at that we can break a few eggs when we make that omelet
+
+24:38.600 --> 24:40.600
+That's really what we're talking about here
+
+24:41.600 --> 24:46.600
+And all of these people smiling with their perfect delivery in person
+
+24:47.600 --> 24:49.600
+Go out to dinner after these presentations
+
+24:50.600 --> 24:53.600
+And talk with the insiders about how this will be achieved
+
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+And it is not the kind of utopian sort of solution that you think it is
+
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+It is a malevolent application of us and them
+
+25:06.600 --> 25:12.600
+And this, you know, the means justifies, the ends justify the means rather
+
+25:13.600 --> 25:16.600
+And it is as malevolent as you can imagine
+
+25:18.600 --> 25:22.600
+And this is going to create wondrous, amazing opportunities for us
+
+25:22.600 --> 25:26.600
+Every time a young child dies of a terrible genetic disease
+
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+We recognize that as a crime against potential
+
+25:31.600 --> 25:33.600
+But when a 90 year old gets dementia
+
+25:34.600 --> 25:36.600
+That's a crime against potential too
+
+25:36.600 --> 25:39.600
+Think of the investment that we have made in people
+
+25:39.600 --> 25:44.600
+You have a whole life of developing your knowledge and your wisdom and your relationships
+
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+And when that goes away, we all suffer
+
+25:47.600 --> 25:51.600
+And we are developing tools that are going to expand our humanity
+
+25:51.600 --> 25:54.600
+Expand our potential and we need to welcome that
+
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+But we also need to recognize that there are dangers associated
+
+25:59.600 --> 26:03.600
+With developing these Promethean technologies that are giving us powers
+
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+That in the past, we have attributed to our gods
+
+26:07.600 --> 26:09.600
+What does Promethean hear mean? I believe it means
+
+26:09.600 --> 26:13.600
+Isn't that the guy who like flew too close to the sun got it burnt?
+
+26:14.600 --> 26:17.600
+Something like that, Prometheus was the guy who like went for fire
+
+26:18.600 --> 26:20.600
+And then he flew, I think that's what it is, isn't it?
+
+26:21.600 --> 26:24.600
+So it's like now we're gaining powers that we shouldn't have
+
+26:24.600 --> 26:27.600
+Or powers of the gods, you know?
+
+26:28.600 --> 26:29.600
+Crazy
+
+26:31.600 --> 26:34.600
+Prometheus brought us fire, right? Okay, yeah, okay, sorry
+
+26:35.600 --> 26:36.600
+The power to make and we...
+
+26:36.600 --> 26:38.600
+Stole fire from the gods and gave it to the people
+
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+And that comes with the generous food to the sun
+
+26:41.600 --> 26:42.600
+Thank you
+
+26:43.600 --> 26:47.600
+Because the genetics revolution is coming very, very quickly
+
+26:47.600 --> 26:49.600
+And we aren't ready
+
+26:49.600 --> 26:53.600
+And in order to make sure that we optimize the incredible benefits
+
+26:53.600 --> 26:56.600
+That are coming our way, we've got to be
+
+26:56.600 --> 27:01.600
+So there are three key areas where we are all going to be feeling
+
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+The impact of this fundamental change
+
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+The first and probably the most obvious is in our healthcare
+
+27:07.600 --> 27:10.600
+When people think about genetics now, they think about healthcare
+
+27:10.600 --> 27:12.600
+For some very good reasons
+
+27:12.600 --> 27:17.600
+But if this is genetics, it's going to fundamentally transform the entire paradigm of healthcare
+
+27:17.600 --> 27:22.600
+But how different is this than what we heard Robert Malone say in that interview with
+
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+On the Tommy podcast
+
+27:26.600 --> 27:30.600
+Where he was describing the fact that when he was in grad school
+
+27:30.600 --> 27:35.600
+He thought that within ten years there would be a geneticist at every hospital
+
+27:35.600 --> 27:38.600
+Using retroviruses to cure genetic diseases
+
+27:40.600 --> 27:42.600
+And that's why he wanted to go into retroviruses
+
+27:42.600 --> 27:43.600
+Do you remember this?
+
+27:43.600 --> 27:45.600
+So if that's the case
+
+27:45.600 --> 27:47.600
+That's really what we're talking about
+
+27:47.600 --> 27:49.600
+How different is that than now?
+
+27:49.600 --> 27:55.600
+What this guy's saying that in ten years genetics is going to cure genetic diseases
+
+27:55.600 --> 27:57.600
+It's no different at all
+
+27:57.600 --> 28:02.600
+They're talking about the same long distance destination
+
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+The same end of the rainbow
+
+28:04.600 --> 28:08.600
+That Robert Malone was enticed by all those years ago
+
+28:08.600 --> 28:11.600
+And we haven't gotten anywhere
+
+28:11.600 --> 28:16.600
+Realistically with regard to actually being able to usefully augment that system
+
+28:16.600 --> 28:18.600
+We have not
+
+28:18.600 --> 28:24.600
+We're still just trying to find ways to augment it where it doesn't implode
+
+28:24.600 --> 28:27.600
+And so far we don't have those
+
+28:27.600 --> 28:31.600
+And that's the real truth of this
+
+28:31.600 --> 28:37.600
+We have to come to, I think we have to come to terms with the fact that these people have been selling this
+
+28:37.600 --> 28:39.600
+For a very very long time
+
+28:39.600 --> 28:42.600
+And they're going to continue to sell it for a very very long time
+
+28:42.600 --> 28:44.600
+Because the only thing they've got
+
+28:44.600 --> 28:47.600
+Is that well if we collect the data
+
+28:47.600 --> 28:49.600
+Maybe an AI will solve it
+
+28:49.600 --> 28:56.600
+And so the solution is to collect as much data as possible from everyone
+
+28:56.600 --> 28:58.600
+It's just
+
+28:58.600 --> 29:00.600
+It doesn't have to be smart
+
+29:00.600 --> 29:02.600
+It doesn't have to make sense
+
+29:02.600 --> 29:05.600
+But this is the sales pitch
+
+29:05.600 --> 29:09.600
+And it combines the mythology of AI
+
+29:09.600 --> 29:12.600
+With the mythology of genetics
+
+29:12.600 --> 29:15.600
+And the mythology of our mastery of biology
+
+29:15.600 --> 29:19.600
+And the mythology of our mastery of protein folding
+
+29:19.600 --> 29:24.600
+And the mythology of our ability to understand how it all works together
+
+29:27.600 --> 29:30.600
+Right now, when you go see a doctor
+
+29:30.600 --> 29:34.600
+You are treated based on the principles of generalized medicine
+
+29:34.600 --> 29:40.600
+Meaning you are treated because you are a human with an end of about 7 billion
+
+29:40.600 --> 29:42.600
+But that is going to change
+
+29:42.600 --> 29:46.600
+Because as we were able to look under the hood of each individual human
+
+29:46.600 --> 29:51.600
+Your treatment is going to be based on the individual biology of you
+
+29:51.600 --> 29:53.600
+And that's why when you take a drug
+
+29:53.600 --> 29:57.600
+It's not going to be a drug that works on average for humans
+
+29:57.600 --> 30:00.600
+It's going to be a drug that works potentially for you
+
+30:00.600 --> 30:03.600
+Based on specific knowledge of your own biology
+
+30:03.600 --> 30:05.600
+So there you set it very carefully
+
+30:05.600 --> 30:07.600
+It works potentially for you
+
+30:07.600 --> 30:11.600
+Based on your specific biology and prediction made about it
+
+30:11.600 --> 30:14.600
+It's wonderfully
+
+30:14.600 --> 30:19.600
+Exactly on point for what Mark Koolak has been saying for a long time
+
+30:19.600 --> 30:22.600
+Which is they want to go to personalized medicine
+
+30:22.600 --> 30:25.600
+Because then they can't really test anything anymore
+
+30:25.600 --> 30:29.600
+And so first they are transitioning to you to the idea
+
+30:30.600 --> 30:34.600
+The transfection and transformation with adenovirus
+
+30:34.600 --> 30:39.600
+Is potentially a completely safe and proven methodology
+
+30:39.600 --> 30:43.600
+And so swapping in and out like a cassette
+
+30:43.600 --> 30:47.600
+The RNA or the DNA that's in that gene application
+
+30:47.600 --> 30:51.600
+Could result in endless different therapies
+
+30:51.600 --> 30:55.600
+That could be specifically designed for you
+
+30:56.600 --> 31:01.600
+Maybe we could create a gene therapy that would make your muscles grow
+
+31:01.600 --> 31:03.600
+And your fat go away
+
+31:03.600 --> 31:08.600
+Maybe we could make a gene therapy that would make your skin less wrinkly
+
+31:08.600 --> 31:14.600
+Or a gene therapy that would solve any of the other myriad of problems
+
+31:14.600 --> 31:17.600
+That could be solved in other ways
+
+31:17.600 --> 31:20.600
+Nutrition exercise
+
+31:20.600 --> 31:24.600
+But could also be solved with a gene therapy
+
+31:24.600 --> 31:28.600
+With a transfection or a transformation
+
+31:28.600 --> 31:32.600
+And if it's personalized for you and it doesn't work
+
+31:32.600 --> 31:34.600
+Well, you know, that's the role of the dice
+
+31:34.600 --> 31:37.600
+Personalized medicine will get better in the future
+
+31:37.600 --> 31:39.600
+We should collect all the data we can
+
+31:39.600 --> 31:42.600
+So the next time we do it, it's better
+
+31:44.600 --> 31:49.600
+And the foundation of that biology will be your sequence genome
+
+31:49.600 --> 31:52.600
+Which will be part of your electronic health record
+
+31:53.600 --> 31:55.600
+So what's that going to mean?
+
+31:55.600 --> 32:00.600
+Well, as more and more of us have our sequence genome
+
+32:00.600 --> 32:05.600
+Our genome's sequenced as part of this transition from generalized to precision healthcare
+
+32:05.600 --> 32:10.600
+We're going to have millions and more of us have our sequence genome
+
+32:10.600 --> 32:12.600
+Our genome's sequenced as part of this transition
+
+32:12.600 --> 32:15.600
+And generalized to precision healthcare
+
+32:15.600 --> 32:18.600
+We're going to have millions, then hundreds of millions
+
+32:18.600 --> 32:24.600
+And within 10 years, about 2 billion people will have had their whole genome sequenced
+
+32:24.600 --> 32:28.600
+Are you surprised to hear him say this?
+
+32:28.600 --> 32:32.600
+Because I've been saying at the end of every stream for about a year now
+
+32:32.600 --> 32:35.600
+That's the whole reason
+
+32:35.600 --> 32:39.600
+That they're running out of time to sample as many people as are available right now
+
+32:39.600 --> 32:44.600
+And if they have their plan in a few generations, there won't be this many people
+
+32:44.600 --> 32:49.600
+And if they have their plan in a few generations, we will never have this many people again
+
+32:49.600 --> 32:52.600
+We're never going to make this mistake again
+
+32:54.600 --> 32:56.600
+But as long as they're all here
+
+32:56.600 --> 33:00.600
+And as long as they're not going anywhere for the next generation or so
+
+33:00.600 --> 33:06.600
+Why don't we invert sovereign rights over our citizens
+
+33:06.600 --> 33:12.600
+The sovereign right of our citizens into the sovereign right of the state over the citizens
+
+33:12.600 --> 33:14.600
+The ownership of them
+
+33:14.600 --> 33:17.600
+Their duty to the system
+
+33:17.600 --> 33:19.600
+Like communism
+
+33:19.600 --> 33:24.600
+Where your data and your medical data, you owe it to the state
+
+33:24.600 --> 33:26.600
+You owe it to your community
+
+33:26.600 --> 33:29.600
+It would be selfish of you to ask for anything for that
+
+33:31.600 --> 33:33.600
+That's where we're going
+
+33:34.600 --> 33:38.600
+They want databases and they want to make them available to as many people as possible
+
+33:38.600 --> 33:41.600
+That can make as much money off of them as possible
+
+33:41.600 --> 33:48.600
+And they want you to buy into it under the pretense that eventually it'll be all good for you too
+
+33:48.600 --> 33:53.600
+Even though we're the only ones who ever have to pay into the system
+
+33:54.600 --> 33:57.600
+Then with the genotypic information, what our genes say
+
+33:57.600 --> 34:03.600
+And the phenotypic information of how those genes are expressed over the course of our lives
+
+34:03.600 --> 34:11.600
+And using big data analytic tools, we are going to be able to decipher more and more of the secrets of the genome
+
+34:11.600 --> 34:17.600
+And that is very quickly going to transform our healthcare from the paradigm of precision medicine
+
+34:17.600 --> 34:19.600
+To predictive medicine
+
+34:19.600 --> 34:23.600
+Right now, what we call health care is really sick care
+
+34:23.600 --> 34:25.600
+You go to your doctor with a symptom
+
+34:26.600 --> 34:33.600
+But maybe that symptom has been germinating in your body for 10 years, 20 years, maybe your whole life
+
+34:33.600 --> 34:39.600
+And maybe when you go to see your doctor, it's so late in the process, your doctor can't do anything
+
+34:39.600 --> 34:45.600
+But what if, when you're taking your child home from the nursery after just being born
+
+34:45.600 --> 34:50.600
+The doctor says, here's your child, take him home, but just FYI
+
+34:51.600 --> 34:56.600
+Your child has a 70% greater than average chance of getting early onset Parkinson's
+
+34:56.600 --> 35:00.600
+Or familial Alzheimer's or type 1 diabetes
+
+35:00.600 --> 35:04.600
+Right now, you say, oh my God, why are you telling me this? This is torture
+
+35:04.600 --> 35:07.600
+But it's actually really useful information
+
+35:07.600 --> 35:12.600
+If you knew that your child had an increased susceptibility to type 1 diabetes
+
+35:12.600 --> 35:16.600
+Wouldn't you want to instill in him or her
+
+35:16.600 --> 35:20.600
+A sense of, a series of habits of x
+
+35:22.600 --> 35:24.600
+Now what you really need to hear here
+
+35:24.600 --> 35:29.600
+Is that this is the mythology, this is the religion of p-values
+
+35:29.600 --> 35:33.600
+It's the idea that we measured a lot of people
+
+35:33.600 --> 35:37.600
+This is presumably after we measured billions of people
+
+35:37.600 --> 35:41.600
+Right? That's the hypothetical here
+
+35:41.600 --> 35:43.600
+Because so far we haven't
+
+35:43.600 --> 35:48.600
+But if we measured billions of people, we had their genotype from the very beginning
+
+35:48.600 --> 35:54.600
+And then we looked at who made it to the end of the line with and without Parkinson's disease
+
+35:54.600 --> 36:00.600
+That billion, two billion people, we would have a much better idea of what genes
+
+36:00.600 --> 36:04.600
+associate with the formation of Parkinson's
+
+36:04.600 --> 36:06.600
+Much better than we do now
+
+36:06.600 --> 36:10.600
+And hypothetically, as Jamie's trying to tell you, if we had enough of this data
+
+36:10.600 --> 36:13.600
+Well, we'd be able to tell you it right from the birth
+
+36:13.600 --> 36:18.600
+Just look at the genotype and then say, oh yeah, you have this, you have this, you have this
+
+36:18.600 --> 36:23.600
+And it's based on this almost unquestionable data set
+
+36:23.600 --> 36:25.600
+Or is it?
+
+36:25.600 --> 36:32.600
+You see, the genetic variation found in the human population right now is so great
+
+36:32.600 --> 36:39.600
+I think it's a problem that none of us can really fully get our minds around
+
+36:39.600 --> 36:44.600
+And it's one of the reasons why I think in this race
+
+36:44.600 --> 36:51.600
+In this mythological race that Jamie Metzel believes that America and West are involved in
+
+36:51.600 --> 36:56.600
+That China is involved in, that Russia is involved in
+
+36:56.600 --> 36:59.600
+That in this hypothetical race
+
+36:59.600 --> 37:04.600
+Ethnicities that are more homogenous
+
+37:04.600 --> 37:09.600
+Present an easier target for understanding how the genome works
+
+37:09.600 --> 37:13.600
+And understanding how genetic disease manifests
+
+37:13.600 --> 37:18.600
+The more genetically diverse your population is, the more alleles
+
+37:18.600 --> 37:22.600
+And variations on those alleles that are present in your population
+
+37:22.600 --> 37:27.600
+The more difficult it will be to make strong correlations between clusters of genes
+
+37:27.600 --> 37:33.600
+Their expression and the phenotype that emerges 20 or 40 years later
+
+37:33.600 --> 37:39.600
+And so I think one of the things that's been hyped in the back room with lots of really smart people
+
+37:39.600 --> 37:43.600
+Is that the Chinese could be very far ahead of us
+
+37:43.600 --> 37:48.600
+Because their population is so genetically homogenous relative to ours
+
+37:48.600 --> 37:57.600
+And that genetic homogeny allows them to make great strides in identifying genetic weaknesses, genetic whatever's
+
+37:57.600 --> 38:02.600
+That potentially could be repaired with genetic technologies
+
+38:02.600 --> 38:08.600
+Now again, these are all hypothetical crazy ideas that I do not think we need to be worried about right now
+
+38:08.600 --> 38:12.600
+But, from the perspective of Scooby-Doo-like stories
+
+38:12.600 --> 38:17.600
+Stories that you need to tell people in suits in order to make them walk in the right direction
+
+38:17.600 --> 38:21.600
+And type on the right page and sign on the right line
+
+38:21.600 --> 38:24.600
+These stories are fantastic
+
+38:24.600 --> 38:29.600
+And I think Jamie Metzel is one of these people who is like in between
+
+38:29.600 --> 38:32.600
+The smart people and the bureaucrats
+
+38:32.600 --> 38:40.600
+And so he often gives these talks where, you know, he's the one who gets to go to the science conference every once in a while
+
+38:40.600 --> 38:45.600
+He's the one who gets to go talk to somebody, but he doesn't know much more than anybody else does
+
+38:45.600 --> 38:51.600
+He's just able to play this role of a guy who's really fired up about the future
+
+38:51.600 --> 38:55.600
+Really fired up about the future technologies, the future changes
+
+38:55.600 --> 38:59.600
+The things that are just around the corner
+
+38:59.600 --> 39:03.600
+You know, like when we have two billion people sequenced
+
+39:03.600 --> 39:06.600
+Exercise and diet?
+
+39:06.600 --> 39:10.600
+If you were at risk or your child was at risk for some terrible disease
+
+39:10.600 --> 39:15.600
+Wouldn't you want to keep an eye on what progress was being made in treating that disease?
+
+39:15.600 --> 39:17.600
+Wouldn't you want more tests?
+
+39:17.600 --> 39:22.600
+If you knew you had a greater susceptibility to breast cancer at some point in the future
+
+39:22.600 --> 39:26.600
+Everybody is going to want this information
+
+39:26.600 --> 39:30.600
+But as we move toward universal sequencing
+
+39:30.600 --> 39:33.600
+Our understanding of genetics and...
+
+39:33.600 --> 39:36.600
+As we move toward universal sequencing, which means what?
+
+39:36.600 --> 39:40.600
+It means sequencing every baby that's born
+
+39:40.600 --> 39:44.600
+Genomics is going to move way beyond the realm of healthcare
+
+39:44.600 --> 39:50.600
+And that's the second critical application will be through direct-to-consumer genetic information
+
+39:50.600 --> 39:53.600
+That has nothing to do with healthcare
+
+39:53.600 --> 39:56.600
+We don't have a disease genome
+
+39:56.600 --> 39:58.600
+We don't have a healthcare genome
+
+39:58.600 --> 40:00.600
+We have a human genome
+
+40:00.600 --> 40:03.600
+And that means that as we understand the secrets of the genome
+
+40:03.600 --> 40:07.600
+We aren't just going to understand more about our disease states
+
+40:07.600 --> 40:13.600
+We are going to understand more about the essence of what it means to be a human being
+
+40:13.600 --> 40:17.600
+Our most intimate traits the way our brains function
+
+40:17.600 --> 40:19.600
+Our personality styles
+
+40:19.600 --> 40:21.600
+Anything that has a genetic component
+
+40:21.600 --> 40:26.600
+And there certainly are many traits that are mostly genetic and partly genetic
+
+40:26.600 --> 40:31.600
+We will be able to increasingly understand the genetic component of those traits
+
+40:31.600 --> 40:33.600
+So that's going to mean a lot
+
+40:33.600 --> 40:39.600
+Because remember taking your kid home from the nursery with the information about disease risks
+
+40:39.600 --> 40:43.600
+What if you have information that your kid has a better than average potential
+
+40:43.600 --> 40:47.600
+At being amazing at abstract math
+
+40:47.600 --> 40:51.600
+Or sprinting or having an outgoing personality
+
+40:51.600 --> 40:55.600
+Will you send them to drama school because you have that information
+
+40:55.600 --> 40:59.600
+How will that affect how we think about what it means to be a human being
+
+40:59.600 --> 41:01.600
+How we think about parenting
+
+41:01.600 --> 41:06.600
+And then the third and most profound application of these technologies
+
+41:06.600 --> 41:13.600
+Will be in a fundamental transformation in the way that our species reproduces
+
+41:13.600 --> 41:17.600
+Right now about two percent of children in the United States
+
+41:17.600 --> 41:21.600
+Are born through a process called in vitro fertilization IVF
+
+41:21.600 --> 41:25.600
+It's about ten percent in Denmark
+
+41:25.600 --> 41:29.600
+And now when you have IVF, when a woman has IVF
+
+41:29.600 --> 41:33.600
+These embryos, the pre implanted embryos
+
+41:33.600 --> 41:39.600
+Can be screened for mostly single gene mutation diseases and disorders
+
+41:39.600 --> 41:42.600
+Things like TASACs and sickle cell disease
+
+41:42.600 --> 41:44.600
+Chromosomal abnormalities
+
+41:44.600 --> 41:49.600
+And simple traits like hair color and eye color and of course gender
+
+41:49.600 --> 41:54.600
+And all of that is in some instances controversial
+
+41:54.600 --> 42:00.600
+But when we have more and more of this information about complex genetics
+
+42:00.600 --> 42:05.600
+It's not going to be making selections based on just this limited information
+
+42:05.600 --> 42:08.600
+We already have the ability to rank
+
+42:08.600 --> 42:11.600
+Let's say, let's call them 15 pre implanted embryos
+
+42:11.600 --> 42:14.600
+From likely tallest to likely shortest
+
+42:14.600 --> 42:19.600
+Within about ten years we're going to have the ability to rank them
+
+42:19.600 --> 42:23.600
+From likely highest genetic component of IQ
+
+42:24.600 --> 42:28.600
+Now there he was again, in ten years we're going to be able to rank the embryos
+
+42:28.600 --> 42:31.600
+Based on genetic component of IQ
+
+42:31.600 --> 42:33.600
+Within ten years
+
+42:33.600 --> 42:40.600
+Just like Robert Malone thought, within ten years we would be having a geneticist in every hospital
+
+42:40.600 --> 42:43.600
+Using retroviruses to cure genetic diseases
+
+42:43.600 --> 42:46.600
+And that was in the eighties
+
+42:46.600 --> 42:48.600
+So forty years later
+
+42:48.600 --> 42:53.600
+And so I would caution you very much
+
+42:53.600 --> 43:00.600
+This guy is asking you to believe that a mythological concoction of data plus AI
+
+43:00.600 --> 43:04.600
+Is going to give us the keys to the book of life
+
+43:04.600 --> 43:06.600
+Make no mistake about it
+
+43:06.600 --> 43:14.600
+He's using those words because he knows exactly how sacred the things that he's talking about are
+
+43:14.600 --> 43:17.600
+The concepts that he's talking about are
+
+43:17.600 --> 43:25.600
+And yet making fun of the idea that at some point there is a sacred complexity that you just can't cross
+
+43:25.600 --> 43:29.600
+There is a sacred complexity that we don't understand yet
+
+43:29.600 --> 43:34.600
+I'm going to sit here and say that we might not understand it in three generations
+
+43:34.600 --> 43:39.600
+But when we come to understand it, it will be a much more humble realization
+
+43:39.600 --> 43:44.600
+Than what is being displayed on these screens in the last three years
+
+43:44.600 --> 43:50.600
+This arrogant malevolence
+
+43:50.600 --> 43:57.600
+You need to see it for what it is because this is a guy, again, who served in the Clinton administration
+
+43:57.600 --> 44:00.600
+Who's talked at a lot of these things
+
+44:00.600 --> 44:03.600
+It says in the chat that he's a friend of Elon Musk
+
+44:03.600 --> 44:10.600
+And maybe even was a guy who worked for PayPal or as an owner or whatever
+
+44:10.600 --> 44:12.600
+So it's a real dude
+
+44:12.600 --> 44:18.600
+That before the pandemic is talking about how we should be collecting the genetic data from everybody sooner or later
+
+44:18.600 --> 44:21.600
+Exactly what we've been saying
+
+44:21.600 --> 44:26.600
+And then before the pandemic, now during the pandemic in the first few months
+
+44:26.600 --> 44:32.600
+Sorry, the first year Tucker Carlson blames him or gives him credit
+
+44:32.600 --> 44:37.600
+For being one of the first people to speak out on the lab league
+
+44:37.600 --> 44:42.600
+And Vanity Fair says that he's part of drastic, which he wasn't
+
+44:42.600 --> 44:45.600
+What the hell is going on here?
+
+44:45.600 --> 44:53.600
+The really weird thing is that Billy Bo sticks in, the guy who started drastic and we still don't know who he is
+
+44:53.600 --> 44:59.600
+Foreign national, not foreign national, hell if I know, it could be Jamie Metzel
+
+44:59.600 --> 45:08.600
+But he wasn't very upset that nobody in drastic actually got any credit in any of those articles
+
+45:08.600 --> 45:12.600
+Extraordinary times, ladies and gentlemen, because these are the players
+
+45:12.600 --> 45:14.600
+These are the actors
+
+45:14.600 --> 45:17.600
+And it's not a few of them, it's many
+
+45:17.600 --> 45:24.600
+Many, an army of people has been carefully hurting us along
+
+45:25.600 --> 45:34.600
+I mean, I was just telling this to someone the other day, how many of you have seen the new plan to the apes movies?
+
+45:34.600 --> 45:37.600
+Not the old ones, but the new ones
+
+45:37.600 --> 45:40.600
+The new ones are about a virus
+
+45:40.600 --> 45:46.600
+If you watch the first one, which maybe is called Dawn or Rise of the Planet, I don't know which one it is, I think it's Dawn
+
+45:46.600 --> 45:49.600
+Rise, whichever one
+
+45:49.600 --> 45:57.600
+The first one, there are six different references in the movie to antibodies and their ability to stop a virus
+
+45:57.600 --> 46:04.600
+The second movie opens with a two-minute sequence where a virus is spreading around the world and kills all the people
+
+46:07.600 --> 46:12.600
+They have been telling us this on the X-Files and on the Simpsons
+
+46:13.600 --> 46:17.600
+And you know it because you've been seeing those videos being circulated
+
+46:17.600 --> 46:22.600
+But they've also been telling it to us at fancy conferences
+
+46:22.600 --> 46:27.600
+At big Google sponsored TED Talks
+
+46:27.600 --> 46:34.600
+They've been telling it to us in secret meetings for all the bureaucracy of the United States government
+
+46:34.600 --> 46:39.600
+And for the military and for intelligence agencies
+
+46:39.600 --> 46:46.600
+They've been telling us this story about the coming technologies, the coming bioterrorism
+
+46:46.600 --> 46:50.600
+The coming things that China is inevitably ahead of us on
+
+46:50.600 --> 46:52.600
+Because it's all about data
+
+46:52.600 --> 46:56.600
+And more and more and more and more data
+
+46:56.600 --> 47:06.600
+And if your data set is really, really, really varied as a high degree of variability like America's data set does
+
+47:06.600 --> 47:10.600
+And you need a lot more of it
+
+47:10.600 --> 47:16.600
+Or alternatively, we could just wait until China figures it out, I guess
+
+47:16.600 --> 47:20.600
+You see, these people know they've been making these stories up
+
+47:20.600 --> 47:25.600
+They've been telling these stories and retelling them at campfires for two or three decades now
+
+47:25.600 --> 47:27.600
+They're very good at it
+
+47:27.600 --> 47:35.600
+It's very enticing to think that human biology, hell, all biology is almost at our fingertips
+
+47:35.600 --> 47:39.600
+And there's no need to worry about fuddling with anything
+
+47:39.600 --> 47:44.600
+Why don't we just destroy all the microbes in our soil? Because, you know, we don't need those
+
+47:44.600 --> 47:50.600
+Why don't we just destroy all the microbes in our gut? Because we don't need those
+
+47:50.600 --> 47:57.600
+Why don't we just start changing our stem cells? Because, you know, what's possibly could go wrong
+
+47:57.600 --> 48:00.600
+To likely lowest genetic component of IQ
+
+48:00.600 --> 48:04.600
+We'll be able to rank likely most outgoing
+
+48:04.600 --> 48:07.600
+Again, it's not an entirely genetic trait
+
+48:07.600 --> 48:09.600
+To likely least outgoing
+
+48:09.600 --> 48:11.600
+You see where this is heading
+
+48:11.600 --> 48:19.600
+We are touching the core of what has been the mystery of what it means to be a human being with these technologies
+
+48:19.600 --> 48:23.600
+So there's gonna be no mystery anymore, you see? With these technologies
+
+48:23.600 --> 48:27.600
+There is no mystery, meaning there is no sacred
+
+48:27.600 --> 48:33.600
+It is a fundamental attack on everything that it is to be human
+
+48:33.600 --> 48:37.600
+The whole reason why we had respect for everyone
+
+48:37.600 --> 48:42.600
+The whole reason why human rights exist all vanishing now
+
+48:42.600 --> 48:45.600
+We're nothing but programmable robots
+
+48:45.600 --> 48:51.600
+They don't want you to think of yourself as being given a sacred gift
+
+48:51.600 --> 48:54.600
+Being the steward of a sacred gift
+
+48:54.600 --> 48:59.600
+Having some responsibility for a sacred gift that you were given
+
+48:59.600 --> 49:01.600
+They don't want you to think that anymore
+
+49:01.600 --> 49:08.600
+They want you to think that you're part of a much bigger thing
+
+49:08.600 --> 49:11.600
+And you should surrender yourself to it
+
+49:11.600 --> 49:19.600
+But right now, our ability to select embryos is limited by the number of eggs that a human female produces
+
+49:19.600 --> 49:22.600
+I mentioned 15, which is the rough average
+
+49:22.600 --> 49:24.600
+But what if you could have more?
+
+49:24.600 --> 49:28.600
+And there is a technology that is already being applied to animals
+
+49:28.600 --> 49:32.600
+Of taking an any adult cell, but a skin cell is often the easiest one
+
+49:32.600 --> 49:35.600
+And so you take a skin graft
+
+49:35.600 --> 49:39.600
+You induce those skin cells into stem cells
+
+49:39.600 --> 49:44.600
+Using a process for which Shinyi Yamanaka won the 2012 Nobel Prize
+
+49:44.600 --> 49:48.600
+So now you have, let's call it, 10,000 cells
+
+49:48.600 --> 49:52.600
+That have been turned skin cells into stem cells
+
+49:52.600 --> 49:55.600
+Stem cells then induced into egg precursor cells
+
+49:55.600 --> 49:58.600
+And egg precursor cells into eggs
+
+49:58.600 --> 50:02.600
+So now you have 10,000 eggs
+
+50:02.600 --> 50:04.600
+And you fertilize them with the male sperm
+
+50:04.600 --> 50:08.600
+Because there's about a billion sperm cells in every male ejaculation
+
+50:08.600 --> 50:12.600
+And now you have 10,000 fertilized eggs
+
+50:12.600 --> 50:16.600
+And in a machine you grow them for about five days
+
+50:16.600 --> 50:18.600
+You extract a few cells from each
+
+50:18.600 --> 50:22.600
+You sequence those cells and the cost of genome sequencing
+
+50:22.600 --> 50:25.600
+Has gone down from about a billion dollars in 2003
+
+50:25.600 --> 50:29.600
+To about 800 dollars now to negligibley within a decade
+
+50:29.600 --> 50:32.600
+So that doesn't cost anything
+
+50:32.600 --> 50:35.600
+And then you get a spreadsheet
+
+50:35.600 --> 50:41.600
+And in the spreadsheet you have all of the options for your 10,000 embryos
+
+50:41.600 --> 50:45.600
+And when you're starting with 10,000 you have a lot of options
+
+50:45.600 --> 50:47.600
+How far can we go with this?
+
+50:47.600 --> 50:55.600
+Well our ancestors who knew nothing about genetics took proud wild wolves
+
+50:55.600 --> 50:59.600
+And turned them into yapping chihuahuas
+
+50:59.600 --> 51:05.600
+Imagine how far we can go with the knowledge that we have
+
+51:05.600 --> 51:09.600
+About how genetics works and how biology works
+
+51:09.600 --> 51:13.600
+We can go a very, very, very long way
+
+51:13.600 --> 51:22.600
+And on top of that, then we have these unbelievably power tools of precision gene editing like CRISPR
+
+51:22.600 --> 51:26.600
+Many of you know that in 2018 a Chinese scientist
+
+51:26.600 --> 51:29.600
+So I'm not really sure what to say about that last little bit
+
+51:29.600 --> 51:36.600
+Because he was kind of equating breeding and selection with genetic editing
+
+51:36.600 --> 51:39.600
+And it's just not going to work like that
+
+51:39.600 --> 51:44.600
+It's really unfortunate but it's just not going to work like that
+
+51:44.600 --> 51:49.600
+And it's too much for this presentation for us to talk about it
+
+51:49.600 --> 51:55.600
+But it is the same kind of bamboozlement where this really enticing narrative about how we're almost there
+
+51:55.600 --> 51:57.600
+And we're at the cusp of all these changes
+
+51:57.600 --> 52:01.600
+It's the same narrative they've been telling us since the 80s
+
+52:02.600 --> 52:04.600
+And the only thing that's come true
+
+52:04.600 --> 52:08.600
+Is that it has become cheaper to sequence pure DNA
+
+52:08.600 --> 52:11.600
+It has become easier to make pure DNA
+
+52:11.600 --> 52:13.600
+And it has become easier to make pure RNA
+
+52:13.600 --> 52:14.600
+That's all
+
+52:14.600 --> 52:16.600
+Nothing else
+
+52:16.600 --> 52:19.600
+And as long as they can make pure quantities of this stuff
+
+52:19.600 --> 52:21.600
+They can do some limited things with it
+
+52:21.600 --> 52:29.600
+But they can't replace selective breeding in animals
+
+52:29.600 --> 52:32.600
+With genetic editing
+
+52:32.600 --> 52:33.600
+They can't
+
+52:33.600 --> 52:36.600
+And CRISPR has off target effects
+
+52:36.600 --> 52:41.600
+So yes you can hit the target but you can also edit other places
+
+52:41.600 --> 52:43.600
+So then what?
+
+52:43.600 --> 52:50.600
+It's a bacteriologic set of enzymes that was a protective mechanism
+
+52:50.600 --> 52:55.600
+And you're using it to edit mammalian genomes
+
+52:55.600 --> 52:57.600
+And talking like it's super precise
+
+52:57.600 --> 52:59.600
+Which I guess technically it is
+
+52:59.600 --> 53:03.600
+But talking as though it does exactly what you want it to do
+
+53:03.600 --> 53:05.600
+And you know that it doesn't
+
+53:05.600 --> 53:09.600
+And you know that we're not at the cusp of figuring out how to make it not do that
+
+53:09.600 --> 53:12.600
+And so it's extraordinary because
+
+53:12.600 --> 53:15.600
+Even the editing of DNA with CRISPR
+
+53:15.600 --> 53:18.600
+It's not the same as
+
+53:19.600 --> 53:27.600
+I get really depressed because it is so sad
+
+53:27.600 --> 53:32.600
+That people make such an attempt
+
+53:32.600 --> 53:37.600
+To divorce us from what is beautiful about our complexity
+
+53:37.600 --> 53:40.600
+What is beautiful about the pattern integrity that we are
+
+53:40.600 --> 53:44.600
+We don't understand exactly at all
+
+53:45.600 --> 53:47.600
+Even a tiny little bit
+
+53:47.600 --> 53:49.600
+Of how a DNA molecule
+
+53:49.600 --> 53:52.600
+Can somehow it seems
+
+53:52.600 --> 53:56.600
+And code most of the data necessary
+
+53:56.600 --> 54:00.600
+To generate and maintain
+
+54:00.600 --> 54:03.600
+The pattern integrity that is a mammal
+
+54:03.600 --> 54:05.600
+That is a plant
+
+54:05.600 --> 54:07.600
+That is a reptile
+
+54:07.600 --> 54:09.600
+That is an amphibian
+
+54:11.600 --> 54:13.600
+We don't understand it
+
+54:14.600 --> 54:18.600
+We have a general idea that this molecule contains codes
+
+54:18.600 --> 54:21.600
+And some of those codes are for proteins
+
+54:21.600 --> 54:25.600
+And that these pattern integrity are made up of those proteins
+
+54:25.600 --> 54:27.600
+We understand that
+
+54:27.600 --> 54:31.600
+That's like saying that I understand that my car has an engine
+
+54:31.600 --> 54:34.600
+And the engine has moving parts that turn the wheels
+
+54:34.600 --> 54:36.600
+And when you push on the pedals
+
+54:36.600 --> 54:39.600
+The engine moves faster and the wheels turn
+
+54:40.600 --> 54:44.600
+But can I really get in there and do anything about it?
+
+54:44.600 --> 54:46.600
+Can I really get in there and
+
+54:46.600 --> 54:49.600
+Usefully augment the function of my automobile?
+
+54:49.600 --> 54:52.600
+Of course I can't
+
+54:52.600 --> 54:55.600
+I can change the oil
+
+54:55.600 --> 54:58.600
+I can give myself a sandwich
+
+54:58.600 --> 55:01.600
+But I can't usefully augment the way that my immune system works
+
+55:01.600 --> 55:04.600
+By injecting something into my muscle
+
+55:04.600 --> 55:08.600
+And that's the way that they are planning to usefully augment
+
+55:08.600 --> 55:12.600
+A human is injecting something into the embryo
+
+55:12.600 --> 55:17.600
+Or injecting DNA into an empty embryo
+
+55:17.600 --> 55:20.600
+Or maybe I guess editing babies
+
+55:20.600 --> 55:22.600
+Which is ridiculous
+
+55:25.600 --> 55:28.600
+And so this is just pure snake oil
+
+55:28.600 --> 55:30.600
+In 2019
+
+55:30.600 --> 55:32.600
+About the coming genetic revolution
+
+55:32.600 --> 55:34.600
+The transhuman revolution
+
+55:34.600 --> 55:38.600
+The futuristic revolution of biology
+
+55:41.600 --> 55:44.600
+An unethical Chinese scientist, in my view
+
+55:44.600 --> 55:48.600
+Was the first person to genetically engineer
+
+55:48.600 --> 55:50.600
+Two little girls
+
+55:50.600 --> 55:53.600
+So unethical? Well then what are you talking about doing?
+
+55:53.600 --> 55:55.600
+And what stage will become ethical?
+
+55:55.600 --> 55:57.600
+Any humans
+
+55:57.600 --> 56:02.600
+And those children were born in October 2018 in China
+
+56:02.600 --> 56:05.600
+But they terrified everybody with those humans, right?
+
+56:05.600 --> 56:06.600
+Because we were right
+
+56:06.600 --> 56:09.600
+The Chinese are way ahead of us
+
+56:09.600 --> 56:13.600
+And they're so ahead of us that man, we better pull the brakes
+
+56:13.600 --> 56:16.600
+We need to get rid of this freedom stuff
+
+56:16.600 --> 56:21.600
+Because by the time we convince these people to give us their genetic data
+
+56:21.600 --> 56:23.600
+The Chinese will rule the world
+
+56:23.600 --> 56:26.600
+So it's time to do something
+
+56:26.600 --> 56:29.600
+And this was a rogue scientist
+
+56:29.600 --> 56:32.600
+But had he even not done what he did
+
+56:32.600 --> 56:34.600
+Still, two years from now
+
+56:34.600 --> 56:35.600
+Three years from now
+
+56:35.600 --> 56:39.600
+We would anyway have had the first application of precision gene editing
+
+56:39.600 --> 56:42.600
+To a pre-implanted human embryo
+
+56:42.600 --> 56:44.600
+That would have been taken to term
+
+56:44.600 --> 56:47.600
+We aren't going to be starting from scratch
+
+56:47.600 --> 56:49.600
+And creating babies out of a computer
+
+56:49.600 --> 56:54.600
+But we will be making small numbers of gene edits
+
+56:54.600 --> 56:56.600
+Whether it's one, two, three edits
+
+56:56.600 --> 56:58.600
+Five edits, maybe ten edits
+
+56:58.600 --> 57:03.600
+I don't think that we're going to be making 1,000, 2,000, 10,000 gene edits
+
+57:03.600 --> 57:08.600
+To a pre-implanted embryo within the next couple of decades
+
+57:08.600 --> 57:10.600
+And what is that going to mean?
+
+57:10.600 --> 57:12.600
+Because we are going to make changes
+
+57:12.600 --> 57:18.600
+In most cases to eliminate terrible and perhaps deadly risks
+
+57:18.600 --> 57:20.600
+And people have a gut feeling
+
+57:20.600 --> 57:23.600
+Well, it's okay to eliminate risks
+
+57:23.600 --> 57:27.600
+But we don't want to do things that feel like enhancement
+
+57:27.600 --> 57:31.600
+But there will not be a clear boundary between those two poles
+
+57:31.600 --> 57:35.600
+All of life will be in that gray area
+
+57:35.600 --> 57:39.600
+Because it is all about perception
+
+57:39.600 --> 57:45.600
+And these incredibly powerful tools will exist in the context of us
+
+57:45.600 --> 57:48.600
+Of our communities, of our cultures
+
+57:48.600 --> 57:52.600
+And we are all different within our societies
+
+57:52.600 --> 57:54.600
+People have all kinds of views
+
+57:54.600 --> 57:58.600
+Ranging from extreme people with strong religious views
+
+57:58.600 --> 58:02.600
+Who have a strong aversion to quote unquote, playing God
+
+58:02.600 --> 58:04.600
+To transhumanist biohackers
+
+58:04.600 --> 58:06.600
+Who thinks it should be all systems go
+
+58:06.600 --> 58:07.600
+And everything in between
+
+58:07.600 --> 58:11.600
+People who are religious who have a version to playing God
+
+58:11.600 --> 58:16.600
+And then biohackers who say gung ho, let's go
+
+58:16.600 --> 58:22.600
+See, this is the dichotomy that's like the lab leak or the natural virus
+
+58:22.600 --> 58:24.600
+They give you two bad choices
+
+58:24.600 --> 58:27.600
+And then they want you to choose the middle road
+
+58:27.600 --> 58:29.600
+You know, we're going to be real careful
+
+58:29.600 --> 58:31.600
+We're not going to be crazy like these guys
+
+58:31.600 --> 58:35.600
+But we're also not going to be silly like these God freaks
+
+58:37.600 --> 58:41.600
+And so the dismissed sacred is gone from the discussion
+
+58:41.600 --> 58:45.600
+The dismissed complexity which cannot be boiled down further
+
+58:45.600 --> 58:48.600
+Is dismissed from the discussion as if it doesn't exist
+
+58:49.600 --> 58:56.600
+And how will societies figure out how to balance those different desires and interests?
+
+58:56.600 --> 58:58.600
+We're also different nationally
+
+58:58.600 --> 59:00.600
+That there are countries that have strong geo-Christian backgrounds
+
+59:00.600 --> 59:04.600
+That may have one view about the permissibility of messing with nature
+
+59:04.600 --> 59:06.600
+Other societies may have different views
+
+59:06.600 --> 59:09.600
+How do we think about sinking these different views?
+
+59:09.600 --> 59:10.600
+And if that isn't hard enough
+
+59:10.600 --> 59:12.600
+So what's the scary version of this talk?
+
+59:12.600 --> 59:14.600
+The scary version is
+
+59:14.600 --> 59:17.600
+That places like China don't have any ethics at all about this
+
+59:17.600 --> 59:20.600
+So there are decades ahead of us
+
+59:20.600 --> 59:25.600
+And if we don't fundamentally invert the way that our country thinks about this
+
+59:25.600 --> 59:27.600
+We aren't going to fall behind
+
+59:27.600 --> 59:29.600
+We're going to be left behind
+
+59:31.600 --> 59:33.600
+And so we're behind schedule right now
+
+59:33.600 --> 59:36.600
+We need to speed this up
+
+59:36.600 --> 59:41.600
+And so the only way to speed this up is to set everybody on their heels
+
+59:42.600 --> 59:44.600
+To reset everything
+
+59:44.600 --> 59:47.600
+And to reset particularly new public health priorities
+
+59:47.600 --> 59:54.600
+That in the end will allow us to prioritize the collection of medical and genetic data
+
+59:54.600 --> 59:57.600
+Does that sound like a plan to you guys?
+
+59:57.600 --> 01:00:00.600
+Because that's the only plan that I can come up with
+
+01:00:00.600 --> 01:00:02.600
+That can compete with
+
+01:00:02.600 --> 01:00:06.600
+Our rival over there that has all of our money
+
+01:00:06.600 --> 01:00:09.600
+That has a genetically homogenous population
+
+01:00:09.600 --> 01:00:12.600
+And complete control over it
+
+01:00:12.600 --> 01:00:15.600
+What are we going to do about that enemy?
+
+01:00:15.600 --> 01:00:19.600
+Well, if we're going to reach our transgenic goals
+
+01:00:19.600 --> 01:00:23.600
+If we're going to reach our utopian future
+
+01:00:23.600 --> 01:00:26.600
+Where we become God humans
+
+01:00:26.600 --> 01:00:29.600
+Then I guess we better get the show on the road
+
+01:00:29.600 --> 01:00:31.600
+Push the button, pandemic time
+
+01:00:31.600 --> 01:00:35.600
+We're doing it in a world driven by extreme competition
+
+01:00:35.600 --> 01:00:38.600
+We have extreme competition within our communities
+
+01:00:38.600 --> 01:00:40.600
+I have a friend who is Korean and lives in Seoul
+
+01:00:40.600 --> 01:00:41.600
+He has 12 students
+
+01:00:41.600 --> 01:00:43.600
+I'm sorry, 12 tutors coming to his house
+
+01:00:43.600 --> 01:00:46.600
+Every week to tutor his 11 year old girl
+
+01:00:46.600 --> 01:00:48.600
+Korea has a law making it a requirement
+
+01:00:48.600 --> 01:00:50.600
+That cram schools close every night at 10 p.m.
+
+01:00:50.600 --> 01:00:52.600
+Because so many people were having their seven and eight year old kids
+
+01:00:52.600 --> 01:00:54.600
+Stay out past midnight, seven days a week
+
+01:00:54.600 --> 01:00:57.600
+Preparing for exams, they were going to take a decade in the future
+
+01:00:57.600 --> 01:01:01.600
+When I asked my friend, if you could sort your pre implanted embryos
+
+01:01:01.600 --> 01:01:04.600
+To give your future child a 10 to 15 point IQ boost
+
+01:01:04.600 --> 01:01:05.600
+Would you do it?
+
+01:01:05.600 --> 01:01:06.600
+He looked at me like I was insane
+
+01:01:06.600 --> 01:01:08.600
+Like why would you even ask that question?
+
+01:01:08.600 --> 01:01:09.600
+Obviously
+
+01:01:09.600 --> 01:01:12.600
+And then I said how about everybody else who are the parents of kids in your school
+
+01:01:12.600 --> 01:01:15.600
+And the look on his face didn't change
+
+01:01:15.600 --> 01:01:18.600
+And that may be culture specific, subculture specific
+
+01:01:18.600 --> 01:01:20.600
+But we have all of these different cultures
+
+01:01:20.600 --> 01:01:21.600
+And people will have different desires
+
+01:01:21.600 --> 01:01:23.600
+And if that's not complicated enough
+
+01:01:23.600 --> 01:01:26.600
+What happens when different countries have different entire approaches
+
+01:01:26.600 --> 01:01:27.600
+To using these technologies?
+
+01:01:27.600 --> 01:01:30.600
+Imagine one country called the United States decides to opt out
+
+01:01:30.600 --> 01:01:32.600
+Another country, let's call it China, decides to opt in
+
+01:01:32.600 --> 01:01:35.600
+Because it perceives an economic or a competitive or other benefit
+
+01:01:35.600 --> 01:01:37.600
+What would the opt out country do?
+
+01:01:37.600 --> 01:01:39.600
+One thing you could imagine, they would say well
+
+01:01:39.600 --> 01:01:41.600
+We've made our decision, you've made your decision
+
+01:01:41.600 --> 01:01:43.600
+Let's see how it plays out and we don't know how it would play out
+
+01:01:43.600 --> 01:01:48.600
+But people will be afraid of that because what if that other society has some kind of big advantage
+
+01:01:48.600 --> 01:01:50.600
+That society that's opted out doesn't have?
+
+01:01:50.600 --> 01:01:51.600
+What do you do?
+
+01:01:51.600 --> 01:01:53.600
+So you could try to say well we'll try to build a global standard
+
+01:01:53.600 --> 01:01:55.600
+Which is a great answer but it's hard to do
+
+01:01:55.600 --> 01:01:58.600
+But what if you try to pressure that other country and they don't change?
+
+01:01:58.600 --> 01:02:01.600
+Do you make it illegal for your citizens to procreate with people from that other place?
+
+01:02:01.600 --> 01:02:03.600
+Do you use force to try to get them to stop?
+
+01:02:03.600 --> 01:02:07.600
+Imagine all the crazy things humans have gone to war over in our history
+
+01:02:07.600 --> 01:02:08.600
+Is this one?
+
+01:02:08.600 --> 01:02:09.600
+I don't know, it could be
+
+01:02:09.600 --> 01:02:14.600
+And the ethical issues around this are so deeply profound that they hit us all
+
+01:02:14.600 --> 01:02:17.600
+What we are talking about is messing with very complex systems
+
+01:02:17.600 --> 01:02:20.600
+We don't remotely or fully understand
+
+01:02:20.600 --> 01:02:22.600
+There are equity issues who has access
+
+01:02:22.600 --> 01:02:27.600
+Wait, he's just going to gloss over that, isn't that the most important part?
+
+01:02:27.600 --> 01:02:29.600
+I don't know
+
+01:02:29.600 --> 01:02:33.600
+But we've seen what happened when European powers, for example, had slightly better weapons
+
+01:02:33.600 --> 01:02:35.600
+And slightly better ships than everybody else
+
+01:02:35.600 --> 01:02:37.600
+It led to the colonial era
+
+01:02:37.600 --> 01:02:40.600
+What will happen if there are real or perceived differences between people?
+
+01:02:40.600 --> 01:02:44.600
+And diversity, we think about diversity as a great way to have better workplaces
+
+01:02:44.600 --> 01:02:46.600
+And universities and universities
+
+01:02:46.600 --> 01:02:50.600
+We think about diversity as a great way to have better workplaces
+
+01:02:50.600 --> 01:02:52.600
+And universities and universities
+
+01:02:52.600 --> 01:02:57.600
+We think about diversity as a great way to have better workplaces
+
+01:02:57.600 --> 01:02:59.600
+And universities and schools
+
+01:02:59.600 --> 01:03:01.600
+But it's something much deeper from an evolutionary perspective
+
+01:03:01.600 --> 01:03:03.600
+From a Darwinian perspective
+
+01:03:03.600 --> 01:03:05.600
+Diversity is just random mutation
+
+01:03:05.600 --> 01:03:07.600
+You could say if it weren't for diversity
+
+01:03:07.600 --> 01:03:08.600
+We'd still be single cell organisms
+
+01:03:08.600 --> 01:03:09.600
+But you'd be wrong
+
+01:03:09.600 --> 01:03:11.600
+Because if we didn't have diversity
+
+01:03:11.600 --> 01:03:13.600
+Those single cell organisms could never have survived
+
+01:03:13.600 --> 01:03:14.600
+Once the environment changed
+
+01:03:14.600 --> 01:03:16.600
+Because there's not good or bad in evolution
+
+01:03:16.600 --> 01:03:18.600
+There's just suitability for a particular environment
+
+01:03:18.600 --> 01:03:23.600
+And diversity is our investment in being ready for a future scenario that we can't predict
+
+01:03:23.600 --> 01:03:25.600
+And we're going to have to make big decisions
+
+01:03:25.600 --> 01:03:30.600
+Before we fully understand the long-term implications of the decisions that we are going to have to make
+
+01:03:30.600 --> 01:03:33.600
+We now have a tremendous responsibility
+
+01:03:33.600 --> 01:03:36.600
+But also a great opportunity
+
+01:03:36.600 --> 01:03:38.600
+To bring our best values to bear
+
+01:03:38.600 --> 01:03:41.600
+In shaping this technology that is going to shape us
+
+01:03:41.600 --> 01:03:43.600
+And I invite you to join me
+
+01:03:43.600 --> 01:03:45.600
+See, so you have no choice
+
+01:03:45.600 --> 01:03:47.600
+Because the technology is coming
+
+01:03:47.600 --> 01:03:51.600
+So you might as well step up and bring your best values to it
+
+01:03:51.600 --> 01:03:58.600
+It's a really crazy thing to talk about right before the pandemic
+
+01:03:58.600 --> 01:04:01.600
+And now here's April 1st, 2021
+
+01:04:01.600 --> 01:04:02.600
+Kind of ironic
+
+01:04:02.600 --> 01:04:06.600
+And a bear breakthrough innovation forum
+
+01:04:06.600 --> 01:04:10.600
+And he's giving the keynote address at the beginning
+
+01:04:10.600 --> 01:04:12.600
+Of course he's doing it via Zoom
+
+01:04:12.600 --> 01:04:16.600
+With a funny green backdrop
+
+01:04:16.600 --> 01:04:19.600
+Let's just listen to this
+
+01:04:19.600 --> 01:04:24.600
+And then we'll, I'm going to take it as an evening
+
+01:04:24.600 --> 01:04:28.600
+Because yeah, I already did that show with Brian tonight
+
+01:04:28.600 --> 01:04:30.600
+So I'm a little bit more tired than usual
+
+01:04:30.600 --> 01:04:32.600
+He's got a blue halo here
+
+01:04:32.600 --> 01:04:34.600
+And bears are really good company
+
+01:04:34.600 --> 01:04:35.600
+I don't know if you know that or not
+
+01:04:35.600 --> 01:04:38.600
+But they make all kinds of things that make people really happy
+
+01:04:38.600 --> 01:04:42.600
+I'm delighted to be here with you today
+
+01:04:42.600 --> 01:04:46.600
+Because we are at a transition point in human history
+
+01:04:46.600 --> 01:04:49.600
+And we are using our incredibly powerful new capabilities
+
+01:04:49.600 --> 01:04:52.600
+Of the genetics and biotechnology revolutions
+
+01:04:52.600 --> 01:04:57.600
+To renegotiate in profound ways our relationship with the world around us
+
+01:04:57.600 --> 01:05:03.600
+Our species now has the increasing ability to recast the code of life
+
+01:05:03.600 --> 01:05:06.600
+And the essential question that will determine our future
+
+01:05:06.600 --> 01:05:09.600
+Is whether or not we can use this power wisely
+
+01:05:09.600 --> 01:05:12.600
+Conversations like this are so essential
+
+01:05:12.600 --> 01:05:15.600
+Because every one of us and all of our institutions
+
+01:05:15.600 --> 01:05:19.600
+Have a critically important role to play in this process
+
+01:05:19.600 --> 01:05:21.600
+To set the stage for where we are
+
+01:05:21.600 --> 01:05:25.600
+It's important to understand the magnitude of this moment in history
+
+01:05:25.600 --> 01:05:28.600
+When one of the greatest forces in the universe
+
+01:05:28.600 --> 01:05:31.600
+Human creativity is being unleashed
+
+01:05:31.600 --> 01:05:34.600
+100 years ago, 2 billion people lived on our planet
+
+01:05:34.600 --> 01:05:36.600
+With a roughly 15% literacy rate
+
+01:05:36.600 --> 01:05:39.600
+That means that around 300 million people
+
+01:05:39.600 --> 01:05:42.600
+Had the opportunity to fully participate in the world of knowledge
+
+01:05:42.600 --> 01:05:44.600
+Shared beyond their immediate communities
+
+01:05:44.600 --> 01:05:47.600
+Today there are nearly 8 billion of us
+
+01:05:47.600 --> 01:05:49.600
+With an 85% literacy rate
+
+01:05:49.600 --> 01:05:53.600
+Meaning 6.5 billion people can share their ideas
+
+01:05:53.600 --> 01:05:56.600
+Because we are networked with each other
+
+01:05:56.600 --> 01:06:00.600
+Everyone can wake up every morning and solve new problems
+
+01:06:00.600 --> 01:06:04.600
+Ending the wasteful redundancy of innovation our ancestors experienced
+
+01:06:04.600 --> 01:06:07.600
+Because our technologies are super converging
+
+01:06:07.600 --> 01:06:10.600
+With each technological revolution inspiring
+
+01:06:10.600 --> 01:06:13.600
+And being inspired by all other technologies
+
+01:06:13.600 --> 01:06:17.600
+The tools we are using to understand and interact with the world
+
+01:06:17.600 --> 01:06:20.600
+Within and around us are improving at exponential rates
+
+01:06:20.600 --> 01:06:23.600
+And because this change is accelerating
+
+01:06:23.600 --> 01:06:28.600
+We must continually challenge the evolved practicality of our brains
+
+01:06:28.600 --> 01:06:30.600
+To help us understand what's coming
+
+01:06:30.600 --> 01:06:34.600
+We must, in other worlds, all start to think
+
+01:06:34.600 --> 01:06:36.600
+A little like science fiction writers
+
+01:06:36.600 --> 01:06:41.600
+Because we live in a world that will increasingly feel like science fiction
+
+01:06:41.600 --> 01:06:47.600
+I would say that he's trying to encourage you to imagine a future that may not be
+
+01:06:47.600 --> 01:06:51.600
+In order to change your behavior based on that mythology
+
+01:06:51.600 --> 01:06:56.600
+Imagine a future that may not be so that they can change your future
+
+01:06:56.600 --> 01:06:59.600
+Based on that mythology, that's what he's doing
+
+01:07:00.600 --> 01:07:03.600
+And they've been doing this for decades now
+
+01:07:03.600 --> 01:07:06.600
+Where we're just around the corner
+
+01:07:06.600 --> 01:07:09.600
+We're going to be able to do everything we always dreamed of doing
+
+01:07:09.600 --> 01:07:14.600
+And it'll be like an erector set but for humans
+
+01:07:14.600 --> 01:07:17.600
+As exciting as this all is
+
+01:07:17.600 --> 01:07:19.600
+It can also be unsettling
+
+01:07:19.600 --> 01:07:23.600
+Not least because it feels unnatural to many people
+
+01:07:23.600 --> 01:07:28.600
+But we need to remember that much of what we call natural is not fully natural
+
+01:07:28.600 --> 01:07:31.600
+At least as experienced by our ancestors
+
+01:07:31.600 --> 01:07:35.600
+Our distant ancestors never went hiking in the woods for fun
+
+01:07:35.600 --> 01:07:38.600
+Because the woods were full of dangerous predators
+
+01:07:38.600 --> 01:07:41.600
+They wouldn't recognize almost everything in our supermarkets today
+
+01:07:41.600 --> 01:07:45.600
+Including almost all of the fruits, vegetables and animal products
+
+01:07:45.600 --> 01:07:50.600
+So the issue for us in our world engineered by our ancestors
+
+01:07:50.600 --> 01:07:53.600
+Using the technologies of their day
+
+01:07:53.600 --> 01:07:56.600
+Like the then radical biotechnology of agriculture
+
+01:07:56.600 --> 01:07:59.600
+Is not technology yes or no
+
+01:07:59.600 --> 01:08:04.600
+But technology how best to benefit humanity and our world
+
+01:08:04.600 --> 01:08:08.600
+We also need to recognize that while healthcare is a critically important driver
+
+01:08:08.600 --> 01:08:13.600
+Of our application of our new genetics and biotechnology capabilities
+
+01:08:13.600 --> 01:08:17.600
+This revolution extends far beyond healthcare
+
+01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:20.600
+We are moving from a paradigm of generalized medicine
+
+01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:22.600
+Based on population averages
+
+01:08:22.600 --> 01:08:26.600
+To our new world of personalized or precision healthcare
+
+01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:29.600
+Where interventions are made, were not made
+
+01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:33.600
+Based on a far deeper understanding of each person's individual biology
+
+01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:37.600
+But collecting genetic and broader systems biological information
+
+01:08:37.600 --> 01:08:41.600
+As part of our transition to precision medicine
+
+01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:45.600
+And placing those data in ever larger and more usable databases
+
+01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:48.600
+Along with other biological and life information
+
+01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:54.600
+Will allow us to use our increasingly powerful tools of AI and machine learning
+
+01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:57.600
+To begin to crack the code of complex life
+
+01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:00.600
+Ta-da! Let's hear that again
+
+01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:03.600
+More use of our transition to precision medicine
+
+01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:07.600
+And placing those data in ever larger and more usable databases
+
+01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:10.600
+Along with other biological and life information
+
+01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:15.600
+Will allow us to use our increasingly powerful tools of AI and machine learning
+
+01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:19.600
+To begin to crack the code of complex life
+
+01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:21.600
+We'll never understand it perfectly
+
+01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:27.600
+But even our imperfect knowledge will shift us toward a more predictive model of healthcare
+
+01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:29.600
+We'll never understand it perfectly
+
+01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:34.600
+But it'll shift our knowledge to a predictive model of healthcare
+
+01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:40.600
+It's snake oil ladies and gentlemen
+
+01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:42.600
+They've been doing it for a while
+
+01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:46.600
+But they're amping it up now because the pandemic allowed them to do it
+
+01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:48.600
+They took the reins of all these industries
+
+01:09:48.600 --> 01:09:50.600
+They changed all these industries
+
+01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:53.600
+They put a lot of things out of business
+
+01:09:53.600 --> 01:10:00.600
+And shifted a lot of this intellectual property space around
+
+01:10:01.600 --> 01:10:04.600
+Health and in many ways life
+
+01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:09.600
+Our goal will be to optimize and then expand our biological possibility
+
+01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:14.600
+With continuous feedback loops guiding precision interventions at the optimal times
+
+01:10:14.600 --> 01:10:18.600
+We'll move from our current system, which we call healthcare
+
+01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:21.600
+But is all too often symptom based sick care
+
+01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:24.600
+To a newer model of prediction and prevention
+
+01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:29.600
+But as I said, the genetics and biotechnology revolutions will
+
+01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:33.600
+And must extend far beyond human health
+
+01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:36.600
+They are already leading us toward very significant
+
+01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:40.600
+And badly needed changes in how we do agriculture
+
+01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:42.600
+The green revolution of last century
+
+01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:47.600
+Is what made it possible for us to go from 2 to 8 billion humans so quickly
+
+01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:51.600
+But its reliance on chemical fertilizers and engineered water systems
+
+01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:55.600
+Is simply not sustainable in our current form
+
+01:10:55.600 --> 01:11:00.600
+As our global human population grows toward an estimated 10 billion people
+
+01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:04.600
+Chemical fertilizers today account for 2% of energy use
+
+01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:07.600
+And 1.5% of greenhouse gas emissions
+
+01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:11.600
+Not to mention the impact of runoff to sensitive aquatic ecosystems
+
+01:11:11.600 --> 01:11:15.600
+We are reaching the limits of sustainable land and water use
+
+01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:17.600
+For the course we are on
+
+01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:20.600
+Clearly we need to increase yields
+
+01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:24.600
+While lowering agriculture's environmental and climate footprint
+
+01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:28.600
+Our new tools, like the ones leaps is championing
+
+01:11:28.600 --> 01:11:30.600
+Promise to do just that
+
+01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:34.600
+By doing things like manipulating the microbiomes in plant roots and soils
+
+01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:38.600
+To massively decrease the need for fertilizers and pesticides
+
+01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:41.600
+And generating crop varieties that can thrive
+
+01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:43.600
+And highly populated parts of the world
+
+01:11:43.600 --> 01:11:45.600
+Where climate change induce warming
+
+01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:47.600
+And groundwater salination
+
+01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:51.600
+Are threatening current crops and human survival
+
+01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:53.600
+Of course this is
+
+01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:56.600
+What I find so extraordinary about this is that
+
+01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:00.600
+Agriculture is pitched as the thing to fix
+
+01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:04.600
+Agriculture is pitched as the broken thing
+
+01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:06.600
+It's nothing to do with any other industry
+
+01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:10.600
+Nothing to do with any other industry at all
+
+01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:14.600
+And it's extraordinary because there's obviously other industries in the world
+
+01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:16.600
+Besides agriculture
+
+01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:19.600
+We're not talking about mining
+
+01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:21.600
+We're not talking about refining
+
+01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:24.600
+We're not talking about a manufacturing of goods
+
+01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:27.600
+We're not talking about manufacturing of batteries
+
+01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:29.600
+Or anything like this
+
+01:12:29.600 --> 01:12:33.600
+We're talking about the environmental impact of agriculture
+
+01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:39.600
+I mean it's extraordinary really because if you think about it
+
+01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:42.600
+Of all the fires that are burning in the world
+
+01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:45.600
+Of all the pollution that's happening in the world
+
+01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:49.600
+This guy is talking about working on agriculture
+
+01:12:50.600 --> 01:12:52.600
+Not
+
+01:12:54.600 --> 01:12:56.600
+It's extraordinary
+
+01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:58.600
+Not all about new technologies
+
+01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:01.600
+We also need to invest in helping traditional agriculture
+
+01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:04.600
+Become more sustainable and scalable
+
+01:13:04.600 --> 01:13:08.600
+The question is not technology either or
+
+01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:10.600
+But how best?
+
+01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:14.600
+Our value chains will only be valuable if they are sustainable
+
+01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:18.600
+The incredible economic growth we've seen over the last 150 years
+
+01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:23.600
+Has depended on levels of extraction that are not infinitely scalable
+
+01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:26.600
+To grow economically in ways that don't decimate our planet
+
+01:13:26.600 --> 01:13:30.600
+We must shift our natural resource acquisition model
+
+01:13:30.600 --> 01:13:33.600
+From cut down and dig up to grow
+
+01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:38.600
+Using precision fermentation from genetically engineered yeast, algae and bacteria
+
+01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:42.600
+And other approaches to do what nature already does
+
+01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:47.600
+Build from small to big from the recipe of code
+
+01:13:47.600 --> 01:13:52.600
+This is the revolution of biology plus biology-inspired human engineering
+
+01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:56.600
+Where we can grow plastics, woods, fabrics, industrial enzymes
+
+01:13:56.600 --> 01:13:59.600
+And many of the other raw materials we need
+
+01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:04.600
+McKinsey estimates that 60% of all physical inputs we need
+
+01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:09.600
+McKinsey estimates that 60% of all physical input materials we need
+
+01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:15.600
+McKinsey estimates that 60% of all physical inputs to the world economy
+
+01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:18.600
+Can be disrupted in this way
+
+01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:23.600
+DNA data storage is another important area where we simply must think differently
+
+01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:25.600
+Using these new tools
+
+01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:31.600
+We are today on the verge of generating far more data than we can store with our current technology
+
+01:14:31.600 --> 01:14:35.600
+But DNA is the ultimate data storage mechanism
+
+01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:37.600
+Honed over billions of years
+
+01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:42.600
+It's a million times denser than silicon and can be stored for over a million years
+
+01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:45.600
+New frameworks for DNA data storage and computing
+
+01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:49.600
+Have the potential to be an important foundation of our information future
+
+01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:54.600
+Of course there are significant challenges of science, cost and scale
+
+01:14:54.600 --> 01:14:57.600
+In all of these areas which must still be overcome
+
+01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:01.600
+But human creativity is essentially infinite
+
+01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:06.600
+While most of the existing natural resources on our planet are finite
+
+01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:11.600
+There are also very real potential dangers which must be acknowledged and addressed
+
+01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:15.600
+Our technologies do not come with their own built-in value systems
+
+01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:22.600
+It's up to us to ensure that our most cherished values guide the application of our most powerful technologies
+
+01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:29.600
+Because what we are talking about here is manipulating complex systems we don't fully understand
+
+01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:33.600
+Which requires almost limitless humility
+
+01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:34.600
+If we are not in
+
+01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:39.600
+It sounds like the same thing that he said at that TED Talk four years ago
+
+01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:43.600
+We are talking about manipulating complex systems that we don't understand
+
+01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:45.600
+And it requires the utmost humility
+
+01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:50.600
+It's a really incongruent circular reasoning statement there
+
+01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:53.600
+It's like what?
+
+01:15:53.600 --> 01:15:55.600
+I mean
+
+01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:01.600
+It's sacred
+
+01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:05.600
+You know cheating on your wife has to be done very carefully
+
+01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:07.600
+Because you can really hurt her feelings
+
+01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:11.600
+That means that you don't think your marriage is sacred
+
+01:16:11.600 --> 01:16:15.600
+You can say my marriage is really sacred, my marriage is really sacred
+
+01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:22.600
+And if you cheat on your wife you should be very careful because you might hurt her feelings
+
+01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:25.600
+Then you don't really believe that your marriage is sacred
+
+01:16:25.600 --> 01:16:33.600
+And if you say that this is a complex system and we have to approach it with the utmost humility
+
+01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:38.600
+But we are going to be collecting all the data and editing people and editing babies
+
+01:16:38.600 --> 01:16:41.600
+And changing the soil
+
+01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:44.600
+And editing crops and all this other stuff
+
+01:16:44.600 --> 01:16:49.600
+Then you don't think that this is a complex system and you don't have any humility
+
+01:16:53.600 --> 01:16:56.600
+It's frustrating because that's what you hear in these talks
+
+01:16:56.600 --> 01:16:59.600
+If you can hear the words and actually understand what he is saying
+
+01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:02.600
+Because a lot of times they don't make sense together
+
+01:17:02.600 --> 01:17:06.600
+You hear people saying incongruent things
+
+01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:09.600
+My marriage is sacred, my marriage is sacred
+
+01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:13.600
+If you cheat on your wife be careful because you might hurt her feelings
+
+01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:20.600
+We're going to do this, biology is this, we're going to become gods
+
+01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:25.600
+We can change DNA, we're going to be able to rewrite the book of life
+
+01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:29.600
+It's a complex system and we have to have the utmost humility
+
+01:17:30.600 --> 01:17:32.600
+These statements are not congruent
+
+01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:37.600
+They're lies, they're enchantments
+
+01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:41.600
+They're designed to bamboozle the people that are hearing them
+
+01:17:41.600 --> 01:17:45.600
+And designed to make these people unable to compute anymore
+
+01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:49.600
+Just to accept what's coming
+
+01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:54.600
+As long as I get to go to the dinner tonight I guess this is fine, I'll clap for this
+
+01:17:54.600 --> 01:17:58.600
+I got invited to this Zoom meeting, I guess that's great
+
+01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:05.600
+Their salaries depend on them not realizing that this is a hoax
+
+01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:08.600
+That this is a elaborate sales pitch
+
+01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:10.600
+That's never going to come true
+
+01:18:10.600 --> 01:18:13.600
+Certainly not in these people's lifetimes
+
+01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:18.600
+Within 10 years nothing is going to change
+
+01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:23.600
+Nor amously careful
+
+01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:27.600
+And even if we are, we run the risk of limiting the diversity of life
+
+01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:31.600
+Which has always been the foundation of resilience and survival
+
+01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:38.600
+Given the power of these technologies, their uneven application could supercharge the massive equity challenges
+
+01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:40.600
+We already face across the globe
+
+01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:45.600
+But we need to recognize that maintaining the status quo also carries with it
+
+01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:48.600
+Existential risks, climate change being only one
+
+01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:53.600
+There's a danger in not investing in healthier lives for ourselves
+
+01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:55.600
+Our loved ones and the people around the world
+
+01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:59.600
+In not seeking a more sustainable future for our planet
+
+01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:03.600
+In not beginning to imagine alternative long-term futures for our species
+
+01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:07.600
+When we know this planet will not always be habitable
+
+01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:12.600
+But to increase the odds that we use our technologies to help us
+
+01:19:12.600 --> 01:19:14.600
+Individually and collectively
+
+01:19:14.600 --> 01:19:16.600
+And not undermine us
+
+01:19:16.600 --> 01:19:22.600
+We need to recognize that this is not ultimately a conversation about science
+
+01:19:22.600 --> 01:19:23.600
+But about values
+
+01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:28.600
+Ethics is not what we do after we've developed a technology
+
+01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:33.600
+But a framework we must integrate into every aspect of our work from the start
+
+01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:37.600
+And so really what he's talking about is that we didn't have ethics before
+
+01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:39.600
+And we need ethics now
+
+01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:43.600
+He wants you to make you think that this is an open tablet
+
+01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:47.600
+This is something that we can decide on now
+
+01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:50.600
+There's no previous precedence
+
+01:19:50.600 --> 01:19:53.600
+We don't have to think about informed consent
+
+01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:57.600
+We don't have to think about all these concepts like beneficials
+
+01:19:57.600 --> 01:19:59.600
+We don't need to think about that stuff
+
+01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:01.600
+This is a new age
+
+01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:03.600
+So we gotta have a new book
+
+01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:05.600
+A new ethics
+
+01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:12.600
+It must be at the core of all processes, products and interactions at every stage
+
+01:20:12.600 --> 01:20:14.600
+To do this
+
+01:20:14.600 --> 01:20:20.600
+We need to recognize our responsibilities as builders and shapers of that larger story
+
+01:20:20.600 --> 01:20:24.600
+Even if we are each only touching a small part of it
+
+01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:26.600
+We need the strongest possible governance
+
+01:20:26.600 --> 01:20:28.600
+Interesting way to put that
+
+01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:32.600
+That's very much what I would think was said to a lot of the people that are on the
+
+01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:35.600
+coronavirus novel, virus narrative
+
+01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:38.600
+Is that it's important that we all stay
+
+01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:39.600
+What did he say?
+
+01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:41.600
+Count of builders are each only touching a small part
+
+01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:43.600
+And shapers of that larger story
+
+01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:49.600
+Recognize our responsibilities as builders and shapers of that larger story
+
+01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:54.600
+Recognize our responsibilities as builders and shapers of that common story
+
+01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:55.600
+Is that what he said?
+
+01:20:55.600 --> 01:21:00.600
+Recognize our responsibilities as builders and shapers of that larger story
+
+01:21:01.600 --> 01:21:04.600
+Even if we are each only touching a small part of it
+
+01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:07.600
+Even if we are only touching a small part of it
+
+01:21:07.600 --> 01:21:15.600
+Can you imagine that message being delivered to people at the beginning of the pandemic
+
+01:21:15.600 --> 01:21:19.600
+Telling them that I know you want to fight and I know you want to speak up
+
+01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:25.600
+But it's important for us to be all on one page
+
+01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:28.600
+It's important for the country
+
+01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:30.600
+It may be important for the world
+
+01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:34.600
+And we need you to help us
+
+01:21:34.600 --> 01:21:38.600
+And if you do, it could be a lucrative sub stack
+
+01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:42.600
+It could be a lucrative supplement company
+
+01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:48.600
+We can think of lots of ways that we can provide comfort for you
+
+01:21:48.600 --> 01:21:50.600
+If you go along with this
+
+01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:53.600
+You don't have to tell lies
+
+01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:56.600
+Just don't tell them that
+
+01:21:57.600 --> 01:22:02.600
+We need the strongest possible governance and accountability frameworks
+
+01:22:02.600 --> 01:22:06.600
+In our companies, universities, governments and international organizations
+
+01:22:06.600 --> 01:22:09.600
+Dynamic processes for public-private partnerships
+
+01:22:09.600 --> 01:22:13.600
+As well as systems for exploring and sharing best practice
+
+01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:17.600
+Dynamic processes for public-private partnerships
+
+01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:23.600
+We're talking about taking public money, making private business
+
+01:22:23.600 --> 01:22:29.600
+making private intellectual property
+
+01:22:29.600 --> 01:22:33.600
+And having new ways of governing it on a global scale
+
+01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:37.600
+That's why he talks about how some people, some societies
+
+01:22:37.600 --> 01:22:39.600
+Don't mind this at all
+
+01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:42.600
+Other societies have a big problem with it
+
+01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:46.600
+As somebody said in the chat, this is a globalist here
+
+01:22:46.600 --> 01:22:48.600
+All futurists are globalists
+
+01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:52.600
+They think that we are eventually going to come together under one church
+
+01:22:52.600 --> 01:22:56.600
+And have one world government with one world currency
+
+01:22:56.600 --> 01:23:00.600
+And those people also think transhuman wise
+
+01:23:00.600 --> 01:23:04.600
+We're going to have this command over our biology
+
+01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:08.600
+Or at least we should reorganize so that we can collect the data
+
+01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:12.600
+That will eventually give them to the AI and give us command over our
+
+01:23:12.600 --> 01:23:14.600
+Over our biology one day
+
+01:23:14.600 --> 01:23:16.600
+That's what they all believe
+
+01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:19.600
+And this is one of their high priests
+
+01:23:19.600 --> 01:23:21.600
+Or at least middle ground priests
+
+01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:24.600
+Frameworks in our companies, universities, governments
+
+01:23:24.600 --> 01:23:25.600
+And international organizations
+
+01:23:25.600 --> 01:23:28.600
+Dynamic processes for public-private partnerships
+
+01:23:28.600 --> 01:23:32.600
+As well as systems for exploring and sharing best practices
+
+01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:37.600
+We need to think differently about public education, empowerment and engagement
+
+01:23:37.600 --> 01:23:40.600
+By working with radical transparency
+
+01:23:40.600 --> 01:23:43.600
+By supporting ongoing and multi-directional public dialogues
+
+01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:45.600
+Where we are really listening
+
+01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:50.600
+And where what we hear has the potential to impact directions going forward
+
+01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:53.600
+We need inclusive and respectful processes
+
+01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:58.600
+That optimize positive societal and global outcomes for all
+
+01:23:58.600 --> 01:24:00.600
+I wonder if I could take this
+
+01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:04.600
+And write my own speech that just says nothing
+
+01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:07.600
+But comes close to saying something about biology
+
+01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:09.600
+Because this is extraordinary
+
+01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:11.600
+It's almost hard to listen to
+
+01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:13.600
+I know this is a very tall order
+
+01:24:13.600 --> 01:24:16.600
+But it's not just about where we are going
+
+01:24:16.600 --> 01:24:18.600
+But how we get there
+
+01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:22.600
+Because we are on the verge of an incredibly exciting future
+
+01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:26.600
+If we can have the wisdom and foresight to build it
+
+01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:31.600
+And building that better future is up to each and all of us
+
+01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:33.600
+Thank you
+
+01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:37.600
+That's what we're talking about here
+
+01:24:37.600 --> 01:24:39.600
+Ladies and gentlemen is some real nonsense
+
+01:24:39.600 --> 01:24:41.600
+Some real real nonsense
+
+01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:45.600
+And it is a consensus agreement on this nonsense
+
+01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:47.600
+It's gotten us here
+
+01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:51.600
+I can't stress enough how important it is to realize that
+
+01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:53.600
+This story
+
+01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:54.600
+Oops
+
+01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:57.600
+This story of a novel virus
+
+01:24:57.600 --> 01:24:59.600
+Is a story that
+
+01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:02.600
+Was told on pretense
+
+01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:04.600
+For a very very long time
+
+01:25:04.600 --> 01:25:06.600
+And many many secret meetings
+
+01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:08.600
+In the beginning of movies
+
+01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:09.600
+In the X files
+
+01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:10.600
+In Simpsons
+
+01:25:10.600 --> 01:25:12.600
+In every
+
+01:25:12.600 --> 01:25:14.600
+TV series
+
+01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:16.600
+That you can imagine
+
+01:25:16.600 --> 01:25:18.600
+They probably had something to do with
+
+01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:19.600
+A pandemic
+
+01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:20.600
+An epidemic
+
+01:25:20.600 --> 01:25:21.600
+A breakout
+
+01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:23.600
+Anybody's viruses
+
+01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:26.600
+And none of the most of those
+
+01:25:26.600 --> 01:25:28.600
+If not all of them are not innocent
+
+01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:30.600
+Certainly the
+
+01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:33.600
+The plan to the apes rewrite is not innocent
+
+01:25:35.600 --> 01:25:37.600
+And if you start to see it that way
+
+01:25:37.600 --> 01:25:39.600
+Then you can also start to see these more
+
+01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:42.600
+Recent additions to the real
+
+01:25:42.600 --> 01:25:43.600
+Play on the street
+
+01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:46.600
+The real play on social media
+
+01:25:46.600 --> 01:25:48.600
+You can see that this has been scripted
+
+01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:49.600
+For a very long time
+
+01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:50.600
+This is Robert Malone
+
+01:25:50.600 --> 01:25:53.600
+And the original press secretary of Donald Trump
+
+01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:57.600
+On a podcast talking about a lab leak
+
+01:25:57.600 --> 01:26:01.600
+You can't possibly believe this is the real
+
+01:26:01.600 --> 01:26:04.600
+Random world of humankind
+
+01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:07.600
+You can't possibly believe this is anything
+
+01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:08.600
+But
+
+01:26:08.600 --> 01:26:11.600
+A elaborate scheme to govern us
+
+01:26:12.600 --> 01:26:14.600
+Because it most certainly is
+
+01:26:14.600 --> 01:26:17.600
+An elaborate scheme to govern us
+
+01:26:20.600 --> 01:26:23.600
+The illusion of consensus
+
+01:26:23.600 --> 01:26:25.600
+Medium turkey chili
+
+01:26:28.600 --> 01:26:31.600
+It is an illusion of consensus
+
+01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:34.600
+That keeps you believing in a novel
+
+01:26:34.600 --> 01:26:36.600
+Virus that keeps you believing in an RNA
+
+01:26:36.600 --> 01:26:38.600
+That keeps believing in
+
+01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:41.600
+Again of functional viruses
+
+01:26:42.600 --> 01:26:44.600
+Because everybody else does
+
+01:26:44.600 --> 01:26:46.600
+Excuse me, I think you forgot my bread
+
+01:26:46.600 --> 01:26:48.600
+Bread, two dollars extra
+
+01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:51.600
+Two dollars, but everyone in front of me got free bread
+
+01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:52.600
+You want bread?
+
+01:26:52.600 --> 01:26:53.600
+Yes please
+
+01:26:53.600 --> 01:26:54.600
+Three dollars
+
+01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:57.600
+No soup for you
+
+01:26:58.600 --> 01:27:00.600
+It's an illusion
+
+01:27:00.600 --> 01:27:03.600
+And if you remove the illusion of consensus
+
+01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:07.600
+You can start to see it for what it is
+
+01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:09.600
+You might still be funny
+
+01:27:10.600 --> 01:27:12.600
+But you're not told when to laugh
+
+01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:14.600
+Medium crap best
+
+01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:17.600
+And the lab leak story might be real
+
+01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:20.600
+Or a version of it with clones might be real
+
+01:27:20.600 --> 01:27:21.600
+You didn't get any bread
+
+01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:24.600
+Just forget it's not as scary as you were told it was to be
+
+01:27:24.600 --> 01:27:25.600
+Because
+
+01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:27.600
+If you were not told to be scared
+
+01:27:27.600 --> 01:27:28.600
+This would not have happened
+
+01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:30.600
+Bread, two dollars extra
+
+01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:32.600
+If you were not told to be scared
+
+01:27:32.600 --> 01:27:33.600
+This would not have happened
+
+01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:35.600
+If doctors were not told to be scared
+
+01:27:35.600 --> 01:27:36.600
+This would not have happened
+
+01:27:37.600 --> 01:27:39.600
+And that's what Denny Rancors
+
+01:27:41.600 --> 01:27:43.600
+That's what Denny Rancors data shows
+
+01:27:43.600 --> 01:27:45.600
+That's what this shows
+
+01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:48.600
+Because without the illusion of consensus
+
+01:27:48.600 --> 01:27:50.600
+In the form of track laughter
+
+01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:54.600
+Even Seinfeld isn't as funny as it used to be
+
+01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:59.600
+And with regard to the 20 years of consensus
+
+01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:03.600
+That has been created around the potential for coronavirus
+
+01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:05.600
+To pandemic
+
+01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:08.600
+Around the consensus of the last 20 years
+
+01:28:08.600 --> 01:28:11.600
+That we've had previous close calls
+
+01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:13.600
+With pandemics
+
+01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:15.600
+And over the last 20 years
+
+01:28:15.600 --> 01:28:18.600
+This consensus that there's ever growing danger
+
+01:28:18.600 --> 01:28:20.600
+Of laboratory leak
+
+01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:22.600
+And gain a function virus
+
+01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:25.600
+Is coming from ever increasingly cheaper
+
+01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:27.600
+Bioterrorists
+
+01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:31.600
+This is also something that has been created
+
+01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:33.600
+As a consensus in secret meetings
+
+01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:35.600
+Behind closed doors
+
+01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:37.600
+For more than a decade
+
+01:28:37.600 --> 01:28:40.600
+And so with this ongoing consensus
+
+01:28:40.600 --> 01:28:42.600
+Behind the scenes
+
+01:28:42.600 --> 01:28:44.600
+This ongoing consensus
+
+01:28:44.600 --> 01:28:47.600
+Reinforced by salaries and subsidies
+
+01:28:47.600 --> 01:28:50.600
+Encouragement, fame, etc
+
+01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:53.600
+You have a whole army of people
+
+01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:55.600
+Arguing on both sides of the narrative
+
+01:28:55.600 --> 01:28:57.600
+Lab leak or natural virus
+
+01:28:57.600 --> 01:28:59.600
+And none of them are talking about
+
+01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:01.600
+PCR fraud anymore
+
+01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:03.600
+None of them are talking about
+
+01:29:03.600 --> 01:29:07.600
+What was done with PCR in 2020 and 2021
+
+01:29:07.600 --> 01:29:09.600
+None of them are talking about
+
+01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:11.600
+Masking lockdown
+
+01:29:11.600 --> 01:29:13.600
+The lack of data for spread
+
+01:29:13.600 --> 01:29:16.600
+The Jessica Hockett has been showing time and time again
+
+01:29:16.600 --> 01:29:19.600
+It's just not there
+
+01:29:19.600 --> 01:29:23.600
+The evidence for this phenomenon is not there
+
+01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:26.600
+But plenty of people were killed
+
+01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:30.600
+Plenty of people were frightened, confused
+
+01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:32.600
+And ran around with doubt
+
+01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:34.600
+For more than a year and a half
+
+01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:36.600
+Because people like Brett Weinstein did
+
+01:29:36.600 --> 01:29:40.600
+Because people like Sam Harris insisted
+
+01:29:40.600 --> 01:29:42.600
+Because people like
+
+01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:44.600
+Eric Fingal-Ding
+
+01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:46.600
+On Twitter exist
+
+01:29:46.600 --> 01:29:48.600
+Because Kevin McCarran said
+
+01:29:48.600 --> 01:29:50.600
+There was going to be a billion people dead
+
+01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:52.600
+Because Paul Catrell said
+
+01:29:52.600 --> 01:29:54.600
+We needed a smash to curve with 60 days locked down
+
+01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:58.600
+Because George Webb was on 60 minutes
+
+01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:01.600
+Saying that it was a lab leak or a bioweapon
+
+01:30:01.600 --> 01:30:03.600
+Lee released by
+
+01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:05.600
+The Chinese at the Wuhan Games
+
+01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:08.600
+And brought back to the United States by an Air Force
+
+01:30:08.600 --> 01:30:10.600
+Lady
+
+01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:14.600
+That's why we're here
+
+01:30:14.600 --> 01:30:16.600
+Because the worst case scenario
+
+01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:18.600
+Native narrative was seated
+
+01:30:18.600 --> 01:30:20.600
+And because none of this stuff was talked about
+
+01:30:20.600 --> 01:30:22.600
+And it's still not talked about
+
+01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:25.600
+And that should tell you all you need to know
+
+01:30:28.600 --> 01:30:30.600
+So they misled us about pandemic potential
+
+01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:32.600
+And laboratories and in nature
+
+01:30:32.600 --> 01:30:34.600
+In order to invert our human rights
+
+01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:38.600
+Might have been a
+
+01:30:38.600 --> 01:30:41.600
+An infectious clone that was used to see
+
+01:30:41.600 --> 01:30:43.600
+That sequence around the world
+
+01:30:44.600 --> 01:30:46.600
+And if you need
+
+01:30:46.600 --> 01:30:48.600
+That sequence to be responsible
+
+01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:50.600
+For respiratory disease and other illness
+
+01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:53.600
+Then you just make more of it
+
+01:30:53.600 --> 01:30:55.600
+And so like I said million times
+
+01:30:55.600 --> 01:30:56.600
+This is a crime scene
+
+01:30:56.600 --> 01:30:57.600
+I'm just calling 911
+
+01:30:57.600 --> 01:30:59.600
+I don't know exactly what happens
+
+01:30:59.600 --> 01:31:01.600
+I don't know who all the bad guys are
+
+01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:03.600
+But I'm telling you a crime has been committed
+
+01:31:03.600 --> 01:31:05.600
+Please send the police
+
+01:31:06.600 --> 01:31:09.600
+Or we're going to lose our human rights forever
+
+01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:12.600
+That's what I believe
+
+01:31:14.600 --> 01:31:16.600
+And so yeah we are
+
+01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:18.600
+In the midst of this
+
+01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:20.600
+Thing where I think instead of scenario
+
+01:31:20.600 --> 01:31:22.600
+One through three
+
+01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:24.600
+Which is laboratory or bedcave zoonosis
+
+01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:26.600
+Where the earth is clean
+
+01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:27.600
+In the beginning here
+
+01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:28.600
+And then gets dirty
+
+01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:32.600
+I think it's a conflated background signal
+
+01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:34.600
+And they may or may not have added to it
+
+01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:35.600
+In order to control it better
+
+01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:37.600
+They may or may not have added to it
+
+01:31:37.600 --> 01:31:39.600
+In order to make it cleaner or higher fidelity
+
+01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:41.600
+But they didn't have to do that
+
+01:31:41.600 --> 01:31:43.600
+Because the vast majority of this
+
+01:31:43.600 --> 01:31:45.600
+Was created through PCR
+
+01:31:46.600 --> 01:31:48.600
+And conflated background signals
+
+01:31:48.600 --> 01:31:49.600
+All PCR needs
+
+01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:53.600
+And so it doesn't matter
+
+01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:55.600
+If it's an endemic background coronavirus
+
+01:31:55.600 --> 01:31:57.600
+The protocols for murder and transfection
+
+01:31:57.600 --> 01:31:59.600
+Is not medicine, it doesn't matter
+
+01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:01.600
+If it was an infectious clone release
+
+01:32:01.600 --> 01:32:03.600
+It doesn't matter if it was a transfection agent
+
+01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:05.600
+Or a combination of all of the above and more
+
+01:32:06.600 --> 01:32:08.600
+The protocols remain murder
+
+01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:11.600
+And we're conflating background signals
+
+01:32:11.600 --> 01:32:13.600
+With these stupid diagnostics
+
+01:32:16.600 --> 01:32:18.600
+And so that's why no viruses
+
+01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:19.600
+Is inadequate
+
+01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:21.600
+That's why it's just inadequate
+
+01:32:21.600 --> 01:32:22.600
+This is where we are
+
+01:32:22.600 --> 01:32:23.600
+Protocols of murder and transfection
+
+01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:24.600
+Was not, it's not
+
+01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:25.600
+Will never be medicine
+
+01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:27.600
+These people misled us
+
+01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:29.600
+They continue to mislead us
+
+01:32:29.600 --> 01:32:32.600
+Because they keep on the narrative
+
+01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:34.600
+There wasn't a virus
+
+01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:36.600
+We had to do something
+
+01:32:36.600 --> 01:32:38.600
+The mRNA worked for a lot of people
+
+01:32:38.600 --> 01:32:40.600
+And it's again a function virus
+
+01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:42.600
+So this will probably happen again
+
+01:32:43.600 --> 01:32:45.600
+You got to understand how you respond
+
+01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:47.600
+To a respiratory disease
+
+01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:49.600
+And I explained it pretty well
+
+01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:52.600
+At the end of Brian's talk today
+
+01:32:52.600 --> 01:32:54.600
+So hopefully that podcast will come out soon
+
+01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:56.600
+And you can see that
+
+01:32:56.600 --> 01:32:57.600
+But you've really got to learn
+
+01:32:57.600 --> 01:32:58.600
+About all cause mortality
+
+01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:00.600
+And put these numbers into context
+
+01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:04.600
+In America between 2.7
+
+01:33:04.600 --> 01:33:07.600
+And 3 million people die every year
+
+01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:09.600
+In the best year
+
+01:33:09.600 --> 01:33:11.600
+And that's somewhere between
+
+01:33:11.600 --> 01:33:13.600
+55 and 65,000 people a week
+
+01:33:15.600 --> 01:33:17.600
+Get your head around that
+
+01:33:17.600 --> 01:33:19.600
+When they tell you that
+
+01:33:19.600 --> 01:33:21.600
+500 people died of COVID this week
+
+01:33:21.600 --> 01:33:24.600
+Or that 300 kids died this year of something
+
+01:33:24.600 --> 01:33:26.600
+Get your head around that
+
+01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:29.600
+50 to 60,000 people a week
+
+01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:31.600
+Is very normal in America
+
+01:33:33.600 --> 01:33:34.600
+Get your head around
+
+01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:36.600
+How your immune response really works
+
+01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:38.600
+And how it is a balance
+
+01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:40.600
+Between the intolerant T cells
+
+01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:42.600
+And the intolerant T cells
+
+01:33:42.600 --> 01:33:44.600
+Get your head around the idea
+
+01:33:44.600 --> 01:33:46.600
+That there's one contiguous barrier
+
+01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:49.600
+That your immune system defends
+
+01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:51.600
+And it's the barrier between
+
+01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:53.600
+Inside and outside
+
+01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:55.600
+And there's outside in the tube
+
+01:33:55.600 --> 01:33:57.600
+That goes through your body
+
+01:33:57.600 --> 01:34:00.600
+And that outside is also defended
+
+01:34:00.600 --> 01:34:01.600
+From the inside
+
+01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:03.600
+By your immune system
+
+01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:06.600
+And learn why
+
+01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:07.600
+Transfection is not immunization
+
+01:34:07.600 --> 01:34:08.600
+Please
+
+01:34:08.600 --> 01:34:09.600
+And learn why
+
+01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:11.600
+Intramuscular immunization
+
+01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:13.600
+Is also probably a pretty dumb idea
+
+01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:15.600
+That we've outgrown
+
+01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:17.600
+That we've outgrown
+
+01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:18.600
+Because our biology
+
+01:34:18.600 --> 01:34:20.600
+That this
+
+01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:22.600
+Jamie Metzel is talking about
+
+01:34:22.600 --> 01:34:24.600
+Means that we've outgrown it
+
+01:34:24.600 --> 01:34:25.600
+We've outgrown
+
+01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:27.600
+Injecting toxic chemicals
+
+01:34:27.600 --> 01:34:28.600
+And recombinant proteins
+
+01:34:28.600 --> 01:34:30.600
+Into the muscle
+
+01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:32.600
+In an attempt to augment the immune system
+
+01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:35.600
+We can do better than that
+
+01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:37.600
+And it's not transfection
+
+01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:41.600
+But changing our mind about this stuff
+
+01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:43.600
+Allowed the pandemic to happen
+
+01:34:43.600 --> 01:34:44.600
+And allowed protocols
+
+01:34:44.600 --> 01:34:45.600
+In treating normal
+
+01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:46.600
+A pneumonia
+
+01:34:46.600 --> 01:34:47.600
+And normal
+
+01:34:47.600 --> 01:34:49.600
+Old people problems
+
+01:34:49.600 --> 01:34:50.600
+Got treated
+
+01:34:50.600 --> 01:34:51.600
+Completely differently
+
+01:34:51.600 --> 01:34:53.600
+Like a highly contagious
+
+01:34:53.600 --> 01:34:55.600
+Deadly respiratory disease
+
+01:34:55.600 --> 01:34:57.600
+Based on a PCR test
+
+01:34:57.600 --> 01:34:59.600
+And financial incentives
+
+01:34:59.600 --> 01:35:01.600
+To pay attention to it
+
+01:35:02.600 --> 01:35:04.600
+They rolled out Remdesivir
+
+01:35:04.600 --> 01:35:05.600
+And gave it to people
+
+01:35:05.600 --> 01:35:06.600
+For what?
+
+01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:08.600
+Remdesivir
+
+01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:11.600
+Everybody that was given Remdesivir
+
+01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:13.600
+And died was a murder
+
+01:35:13.600 --> 01:35:14.600
+Everybody that was given Remdesivir
+
+01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:16.600
+And didn't die got lucky
+
+01:35:16.600 --> 01:35:18.600
+And all of them should be
+
+01:35:18.600 --> 01:35:19.600
+Reimbursed for the damages
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+01:35:19.600 --> 01:35:20.600
+That they were
+
+01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:22.600
+It's a poison
+
+01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:25.600
+There was no reason to believe
+
+01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:27.600
+That Remdesivir would help these people
+
+01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:29.600
+From whatever was out there
+
+01:35:29.600 --> 01:35:30.600
+Especially if nothing was out there
+
+01:35:31.600 --> 01:35:33.600
+Ladies and gentlemen
+
+01:35:34.600 --> 01:35:36.600
+We've got to come to terms with this
+
+01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:38.600
+This is a real real problem
+
+01:35:38.600 --> 01:35:40.600
+This is not just like we gave a
+
+01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:42.600
+Maspurin and Aspirin didn't work
+
+01:35:42.600 --> 01:35:44.600
+We gave them a poison
+
+01:35:46.600 --> 01:35:48.600
+A Dazzalam was effectively a poison
+
+01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:50.600
+The way it was used in the UK
+
+01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:52.600
+Not giving people antibiotics
+
+01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:54.600
+When they have a secondary pneumonia
+
+01:35:54.600 --> 01:35:56.600
+It's basically poisoning them
+
+01:35:56.600 --> 01:35:57.600
+Come on guys
+
+01:36:01.600 --> 01:36:02.600
+So that's where we are
+
+01:36:02.600 --> 01:36:04.600
+I'm going to run that by one more time
+
+01:36:04.600 --> 01:36:06.600
+And that's why I showed Jamie Metzel
+
+01:36:06.600 --> 01:36:07.600
+Today because you know
+
+01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:09.600
+I think one of the stories
+
+01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:11.600
+They've been telling in the back rooms
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+01:36:11.600 --> 01:36:12.600
+Of these meetings
+
+01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:14.600
+Is that we don't have much time guys
+
+01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:17.600
+We've got to change these people's minds
+
+01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:19.600
+Right now because if we don't
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+01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:22.600
+If we don't change their minds now
+
+01:36:22.600 --> 01:36:24.600
+We're going to miss this peak
+
+01:36:24.600 --> 01:36:26.600
+This peak availability
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+01:36:26.600 --> 01:36:28.600
+Of the most genetic variations
+
+01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:30.600
+Of the most examples
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+01:36:30.600 --> 01:36:32.600
+Of human genetics
+
+01:36:32.600 --> 01:36:34.600
+And human phenotypes
+
+01:36:34.600 --> 01:36:36.600
+That we're ever going to have again
+
+01:36:36.600 --> 01:36:38.600
+Think about it from the perspective
+
+01:36:38.600 --> 01:36:40.600
+Of Go or Chess
+
+01:36:40.600 --> 01:36:42.600
+And how AI solved that problem
+
+01:36:42.600 --> 01:36:45.600
+It solved it by playing millions and millions of games
+
+01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:48.600
+And every one of the humans on the planets
+
+01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:52.600
+Is one game of the human game
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+01:36:52.600 --> 01:36:56.600
+And so if you want many many many many many many games
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+01:36:56.600 --> 01:36:58.600
+To feed to your AI
+
+01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:00.600
+So that the AI can figure out
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+01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:02.600
+How to win the game
+
+01:37:02.600 --> 01:37:04.600
+And you've got to give it
+
+01:37:04.600 --> 01:37:06.600
+Many many iterations of the game
+
+01:37:06.600 --> 01:37:08.600
+That's why they need genetic code
+
+01:37:08.600 --> 01:37:10.600
+And all of the biological data
+
+01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:12.600
+They can muster from every human being
+
+01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:13.600
+They can get
+
+01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:15.600
+Because they don't know how much data
+
+01:37:15.600 --> 01:37:16.600
+They're going to need before the AI will go
+
+01:37:16.600 --> 01:37:18.600
+Okay, no, I get it
+
+01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:20.600
+And as we heard
+
+01:37:20.600 --> 01:37:22.600
+And learned from the
+
+01:37:22.600 --> 01:37:24.600
+AI winning at Go
+
+01:37:24.600 --> 01:37:26.600
+The moment the human played
+
+01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:28.600
+Rather unorthodox
+
+01:37:28.600 --> 01:37:30.600
+Than the Go machine
+
+01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:32.600
+Lost all of its powers
+
+01:37:32.600 --> 01:37:36.600
+And so there's a very very good chance
+
+01:37:36.600 --> 01:37:38.600
+That the first 10 solutions from the AI
+
+01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:40.600
+Will be close
+
+01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:42.600
+But no cigar
+
+01:37:42.600 --> 01:37:44.600
+And in the end this will be nothing but
+
+01:37:44.600 --> 01:37:46.600
+A mythology
+
+01:37:46.600 --> 01:37:48.600
+Run all the way out to the threads
+
+01:37:48.600 --> 01:37:50.600
+All the way out to the threads
+
+01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:52.600
+Because this is not the way
+
+01:37:52.600 --> 01:37:54.600
+This is going to work
+
+01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:56.600
+This is not the way it's going to happen
+
+01:37:56.600 --> 01:37:58.600
+It's not the right way for humans
+
+01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:00.600
+To go forward
+
+01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:02.600
+In a hundred years
+
+01:38:02.600 --> 01:38:04.600
+Everybody that's alive is going to be dead
+
+01:38:04.600 --> 01:38:06.600
+And there is no
+
+01:38:06.600 --> 01:38:08.600
+There is absolutely no chance
+
+01:38:08.600 --> 01:38:10.600
+Of us
+
+01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:12.600
+Usefully augmenting a human
+
+01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:14.600
+So that's not the case
+
+01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:16.600
+And the only people that probably have a chance
+
+01:38:16.600 --> 01:38:18.600
+Of living out
+
+01:38:18.600 --> 01:38:20.600
+This next hundred years and longer
+
+01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:22.600
+Are little kids that are
+
+01:38:22.600 --> 01:38:24.600
+Vaccinated right now
+
+01:38:24.600 --> 01:38:26.600
+And will not be in the future
+
+01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:28.600
+The fearfully and wonderfully made
+
+01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:30.600
+Little children
+
+01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:32.600
+That are not vaccinated
+
+01:38:32.600 --> 01:38:34.600
+Those are the ones that are probably going to live
+
+01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:36.600
+The next hundred years
+
+01:38:36.600 --> 01:38:38.600
+Everybody else is going to be dead
+
+01:38:38.600 --> 01:38:40.600
+You can find me at giga-home.bio
+
+01:38:40.600 --> 01:38:42.600
+Still trying to convert
+
+01:38:42.600 --> 01:38:44.600
+I'm really not on social media anymore
+
+01:38:44.600 --> 01:38:46.600
+And I think it's good
+
+01:38:46.600 --> 01:38:48.600
+I think I'm getting on stream every day
+
+01:38:48.600 --> 01:38:50.600
+And I think that's a better thing to focus on
+
+01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:52.600
+Thanks very much for joining me
+
+01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:54.600
+I hope you enjoyed it
+
+01:38:54.600 --> 01:38:56.600
+I need some sleep
+
+01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:02.600
+Transfection is not immunization
+
+01:39:02.600 --> 01:39:04.600
+Any combination of chemicals
+
+01:39:04.600 --> 01:39:06.600
+Injection intramuscularly is probably
+
+01:39:06.600 --> 01:39:08.600
+A dumb idea as far as
+
+01:39:08.600 --> 01:39:10.600
+Augmenting the immune system
+
+01:39:10.600 --> 01:39:12.600
+You heard it here
+
+01:39:12.600 --> 01:39:14.600
+Stop all transfections
+
+01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:17.600
+Because they're trying to eliminate the control group
+
+01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:50.600
+I think I'm going to do a broken science video
+
+01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:53.600
+Greg just put out a new
+
+01:39:53.600 --> 01:39:55.600
+A new video podcast
+
+01:39:55.600 --> 01:39:57.600
+I think I'm going to watch that tomorrow
+
+01:39:57.600 --> 01:39:59.600
+Big shout out to Greg
+
+01:39:59.600 --> 01:40:01.600
+Check it out if you want to check it out
+
+01:40:01.600 --> 01:40:03.600
+A little really broken science initiative
+
+01:40:14.600 --> 01:40:16.600
+Thank you
+
+01:40:16.600 --> 01:40:18.600
+Thank you for joining me
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+Thank you for joining me
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+Thank you for joining me
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+WEBVTT
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+What did you think, Christy? Was it a good video? Was it worth your time? I really, I
+
+01:55.920 --> 02:03.120
+kind of like the way Greg works through it. It's a hard sell, so it's a tough
+
+02:03.120 --> 02:09.000
+subject to put through in 40 minutes. I'm really curious what you thought.
+
+02:25.920 --> 02:55.880
+You're scheduled for 60 minutes.
+
+02:55.880 --> 03:04.240
+What's next? It's going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television. People everywhere
+
+03:04.240 --> 03:09.640
+are starting to listen to him. It's embarrassing.
+
+03:15.080 --> 03:20.720
+Hey, listen to this gang. Teenage sleuths solved bone hijacking mystery. Captain Cutler
+
+03:20.720 --> 03:26.400
+and his wife take it into custody by sure. That was some plan they had. First spreading
+
+03:26.400 --> 03:32.240
+the phony story about Cutler and then stealing the yachts from the marina. That night on
+
+03:32.240 --> 03:37.080
+the beach, Cutler was storing extra scuba tanks in the graveyard of the ship. Yeah, but
+
+03:37.080 --> 03:44.920
+like his diving suit got covered with that kooky glowing seaweed. And that's where the
+
+03:44.920 --> 03:58.680
+glowing ghost story came from. Well, that clothes is the mystery. How did Scooby do with that?
+
+03:58.680 --> 04:01.080
+I guess that's another mystery.
+
+04:19.880 --> 04:24.840
+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is Giggle and biological. A high resistance low noise
+
+04:24.840 --> 04:35.640
+information brief brought to you by a biologist. It's the 21st of September, 2023. So I'm gonna
+
+04:35.640 --> 04:44.000
+be peeking out my mic a little bit and turn myself down. Maybe get some music. I don't know what's going on here.
+
+04:44.000 --> 04:53.000
+Gotta speed this up now. Yeah, so tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. Eastern time, you can watch on CHD TV.
+
+04:53.400 --> 05:01.800
+My podcast with Brian Hooker. I think it's gonna be a really neat one. I think it turned out okay.
+
+05:02.520 --> 05:08.040
+I hope it turned out all right. But at 10 a.m. tomorrow, you can see that on CHD TV.
+
+05:11.080 --> 05:18.920
+I got a really other kind of excellent thing to announce today, which I think is really pretty cool.
+
+05:19.000 --> 05:22.760
+I don't know where it's gonna go, but we're gonna find out right now.
+
+05:30.280 --> 05:35.640
+Yes, that's how it's supposed to go. Just a little bit earlier, maybe would be better. But,
+
+05:35.640 --> 05:40.520
+you know, it's too bad. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is Giggle and biological.
+
+05:40.520 --> 05:45.720
+A high resistance low noise information brief brought to you by a biologist. My name is Jonathan
+
+05:45.720 --> 05:51.960
+Cooey. I'm coming to you live from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Greetings to all of you. And thank
+
+05:51.960 --> 05:57.160
+you for joining me. The scroll up and above there are the people that are supporting this stream.
+
+05:57.160 --> 06:04.520
+Some of them have been supporting me for as long as two or three years. And so, it's taken me a
+
+06:04.520 --> 06:08.680
+while to figure out how I wanted to do it. But I think it's just best kind of to have them on
+
+06:08.680 --> 06:13.800
+screen most of the time. You can always turn it off later. Again, like I just wanted to say,
+
+06:14.440 --> 06:19.960
+I mentioned in the intro, there's going to be a 10 a.m. tomorrow morning.
+
+06:22.120 --> 06:28.760
+You can watch me be interviewed by Dr. Brian Hooker on CHD TV. I think his show is called
+
+06:28.760 --> 06:38.200
+Doctors and Scientists. I guess doctors, scientists and podcasters now. But yeah, it was a neat talk.
+
+06:38.200 --> 06:44.280
+It was fun because he let me talk in very broad strokes. I got to draw a picture.
+
+06:45.400 --> 06:49.400
+And the people that listened to it thought it was pretty good. So I hope it comes out all right.
+
+06:49.400 --> 06:55.000
+It's a broad discussion about all the reasons why Transfection is in a good idea. And then on
+
+06:55.000 --> 07:00.840
+top of that, why this particular version of Transfection isn't a very good idea.
+
+07:03.480 --> 07:07.880
+And so that's, of course, our message for the last few weeks now or the last few months now.
+
+07:07.880 --> 07:13.640
+We've been trying to say it over and over again, that I think what has happened as a result of
+
+07:13.640 --> 07:18.920
+our exploration of this immunology, our deep dive into this immunology over the last three years
+
+07:19.880 --> 07:26.920
+has made me pretty confident in saying that I think it's not about vaccines, you know,
+
+07:27.560 --> 07:32.280
+what it is is this idea that we can augment the immune system by injecting a combination of
+
+07:32.280 --> 07:38.680
+substances into our muscle. It's just a dumb idea. And I don't know how we really got there.
+
+07:38.680 --> 07:44.200
+I don't know if we need to really figure that out. I just think we need to come to a conclusion
+
+07:45.080 --> 07:51.160
+that we should have come to probably a long time ago, which is that the,
+
+07:53.160 --> 07:57.880
+is there a little black edge to the? Yeah, there sure is.
+
+07:58.360 --> 08:03.960
+Um, that we should have come to this conclusion quite some time ago and we don't know really why
+
+08:03.960 --> 08:12.280
+we haven't. But it might be because of the way this kind of therapeutic class is protected both
+
+08:12.280 --> 08:19.800
+legally and culturally in our Western society. But we really need to wake up and apologize to
+
+08:19.880 --> 08:28.200
+our children for having, um, sort of abdicated this responsibility. I want to point you back
+
+08:28.200 --> 08:31.720
+one more time. I guess I should have taken this slide out, but I'm going to do it anyway. I
+
+08:31.720 --> 08:37.080
+want to point you back one more time to this twiv episode because the twiv episode that I did
+
+08:37.080 --> 08:43.560
+a few days ago discusses how neutralizing antibodies aren't necessary for a guinea pig model of
+
+08:44.040 --> 08:50.360
+viral immunity. And more importantly, in this podcast, they talked very specifically about the
+
+08:50.360 --> 08:57.960
+three dimensional epitopes and the, the idea that the sequence of the protein is not really as
+
+08:57.960 --> 09:03.000
+important as the three dimensional folding. And that's called a quaternary epitope. And that
+
+09:03.000 --> 09:09.640
+discussion is really enlightening because it gets you a much better idea of the breadth and the depth
+
+09:09.640 --> 09:14.200
+of the oversimplification that they've done with regards to trying to tell you that antibodies
+
+09:14.840 --> 09:23.080
+to a spike protein are somehow vital to your survival of a coronavirus infection. And then they go on
+
+09:23.080 --> 09:28.920
+to talk about a second paper, which is basically CRISPR and RNA viruses, but they kind of skirt
+
+09:28.920 --> 09:33.560
+around the idea that they need pure RNA to do this and that pure RNA is really the only way they
+
+09:33.560 --> 09:45.640
+can do any of this RNA virology. So I think it's okay probably to, to pan over here.
+
+09:47.800 --> 09:53.720
+These people have changed the way that we think about stuff. And specifically, they've changed
+
+09:53.720 --> 09:58.760
+the way we think about respiratory disease, our immune response to it all caused mortality and
+
+09:58.760 --> 10:04.520
+where it comes from and how much of it there is and what vaccination is and how, you know,
+
+10:04.520 --> 10:08.200
+intramuscular injection of stuff has worked before. Why won't it work now?
+
+10:11.640 --> 10:20.200
+And this ridiculous change in immunology 101 and this ridiculous, overbearing fear, confusion,
+
+10:20.200 --> 10:31.400
+uncertainty and doubt allowed them to push school boards and town councils and daycare centers
+
+10:31.400 --> 10:37.880
+and everybody to think that these kinds of things were a good idea and top down hospital
+
+10:37.880 --> 10:45.400
+administration driven by the CARES Act drove this, you know, directive of as long as you follow
+
+10:45.400 --> 10:50.200
+the orders of the CDC, we can't be blamed for anything that happens. So if you want to keep your
+
+10:50.200 --> 10:58.360
+job here, you're going to follow the directives of the CDC, which included remdesivir in America,
+
+10:58.360 --> 11:05.320
+Madazolem in the UK. And generally speaking, three pills were just dropped off of the charts of
+
+11:05.320 --> 11:12.440
+being used. And these end up being some of the most effective treatments antibiotics for secondary
+
+11:12.440 --> 11:20.680
+pneumonia. And the way that they've gotten away with this is that they've controlled the spectrum
+
+11:20.680 --> 11:27.080
+of the narrative. And I think it's very important for everybody who's now just joining the stream
+
+11:27.080 --> 11:33.160
+for the first time or has been joining me every night for the last 14 or 15 nights. We've got
+
+11:33.880 --> 11:40.840
+to think carefully about how every one of the steps that we were led through is likely a part
+
+11:40.840 --> 11:48.040
+of this controlled narrative. Hydroxychloroquine was played in a certain way in 2020 and has never
+
+11:49.080 --> 11:59.400
+made its way back into the conversation. Hydroxychloroquine was the solution that the United
+
+11:59.400 --> 12:08.760
+States government stuck 20,000 pills of in 2020. Hydroxychloroquine was the end point drug for which
+
+12:08.760 --> 12:15.320
+several precursor factories, factories that made precursor drugs for hydroxychloroquine or
+
+12:16.040 --> 12:25.800
+finished hydroxychloroquine. Am I saying it right? Yeah. They were burned in 2020. So
+
+12:25.800 --> 12:33.400
+Ivermectin factories didn't burn in 2020, but hydroxychloroquine factories did. The United States
+
+12:33.400 --> 12:39.240
+government did not stock up on Ivermectin pills. They stocked up on hydroxychloroquine pills.
+
+12:40.280 --> 12:48.200
+The late Zevzalenko who treated more than 200 people in Congress used hydroxychloroquine and zinc.
+
+12:51.800 --> 12:57.320
+And so this is a big deal because it's never come back into the discussion because why?
+
+12:57.800 --> 13:04.760
+Because the discussion has been very carefully curated by people like Brett Weinstein who pushed
+
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+Ivermectin as one of the three ways that strangers could hang out together in June of 2021. You could
+
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+be vaccinated and infected like my friend Robert Malone or you could be double vaccinated like
+
+13:21.240 --> 13:30.360
+my friend Steve Kirsch or you could use smart prophylaxis like me, Brett Weinstein and take
+
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+Ivermectin. And so I find it very curious that hydroxychloroquine the only substance that has a
+
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+paper in 2005 which is specifically looking at in vitro inhibition of coronavirus uptake in cell
+
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+culture. The only drug that showed any promise the only drug actually that Tony Fauci himself is
+
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+actually on videotape probably not videotape but video recording saying that hydroxychloroquine
+
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+is a drug that shows promise for combating SARS viruses and it's not in the conversation anymore
+
+14:19.480 --> 14:26.440
+but there are books being written about Ivermectin. Why is that ladies and gentlemen do you think
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+14:26.440 --> 14:34.520
+that's real? I don't think that's real and I'm trying very hard to dive into that I'm going to
+
+14:34.520 --> 14:42.200
+bring some more ammunition to that fire as we go along but for now I just wanted to preface that
+
+14:42.200 --> 14:47.000
+thought tonight to make sure that your wheels are still thinking you're still looking back
+
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+while your memory is still sharp enough to remember it because if we let them keep rushing
+
+14:53.880 --> 15:00.040
+us into the future and distracting us with all kinds of other things we're going to forget about
+
+15:00.040 --> 15:09.000
+2020 when everybody was doing the most lying when everybody was doing the most lying
+
+15:09.160 --> 15:17.480
+or let's say the most look-away doctrine I don't know I ain't looking there
+
+15:21.720 --> 15:27.240
+don't let them let you forget you have to remember the only way we're going to get out of this is
+
+15:27.240 --> 15:37.240
+an accurate history of what happened in 2020 and 2021 it's the only way they lied to us about this
+
+15:37.320 --> 15:42.200
+stuff in order to swap our rights around and I think some of these people
+
+15:42.920 --> 15:49.960
+wittingly or unwittingly are involved in this lie and if we look carefully back at 2020 I believe
+
+15:49.960 --> 15:57.000
+that we can see and when we can see then we can see our way out we can show other people the way
+
+15:57.000 --> 16:06.280
+out because that's where the light is as crazy as it sounds we've got to look at 2020 and 2021 if
+
+16:06.280 --> 16:13.560
+we're going to find how this narrative trap was created and I think we have to look back at the
+
+16:13.560 --> 16:17.720
+people who have been telling us the story over and over again who have been falsely
+
+16:18.760 --> 16:24.360
+falsely censored you know like Russell Brand is being censored right now so censored that
+
+16:24.360 --> 16:30.360
+everybody on the internet is talking about it so censored that Jimmy Dorr has five different little
+
+16:30.360 --> 16:36.520
+shorts about it so censored that he's going to go on everybody's podcast and talk about it now
+
+16:36.520 --> 16:44.040
+wow so YouTube's not paying you anymore must be rough it sounds like the same game they played with
+
+16:44.760 --> 16:52.120
+with Brett Weinstein when Robert Malone was on his podcast it's not really censorship
+
+16:52.120 --> 16:58.280
+if it gets you more popular it's not really censorship if it funnels all of your people
+
+16:58.920 --> 17:05.800
+into your subscribership it's not really censorship if everybody in the world starts talking about it
+
+17:07.400 --> 17:13.640
+then it's more like the opposite of censorship it's promotion no publicity's bad publicity ladies and
+
+17:13.640 --> 17:20.360
+gentlemen and so these people you know we've been talking about all these people and so I thought
+
+17:20.360 --> 17:26.680
+for our for our throwback Thursday we would go back to a couple people that we know
+
+17:27.480 --> 17:32.360
+and I thought you might find it curious that of all the people that Robert Malone has done a
+
+17:32.360 --> 17:39.080
+podcast with would you find it surprising that he's done a podcast with Paul Catrell in 2021
+
+17:39.080 --> 17:44.280
+about a month after he was on the Brett Weinstein podcast
+
+17:46.760 --> 17:54.280
+that's a little interesting isn't it the extremely fake MD from New York City the guy that was running
+
+17:55.240 --> 18:00.840
+or trading for years before that he lived like once block away from Wall Street
+
+18:01.400 --> 18:08.200
+but supposedly according to the very reliable and highly trustworthy George Webb he was traveling
+
+18:08.200 --> 18:17.080
+back and forth to Harvard on a bus to do med school actually it's biology before you go to med
+
+18:17.080 --> 18:21.960
+school but I'll repeat med school med school med school med school it's actually the biology
+
+18:21.960 --> 18:30.200
+program that you do before med school but but Dr. Paul Catrell who did chaos theory and in
+
+18:30.200 --> 18:38.680
+equities trading that's his PhD and that's the guy that Robert Malone decided to do a podcast with
+
+18:39.400 --> 18:47.240
+would you find that at all curious would you find it at all curious if Robert Malone in 2021
+
+18:48.200 --> 18:51.640
+had done a podcast with Paul Catrell
+
+18:54.440 --> 19:03.080
+Paul Catrell bus Dr. MD George Webb's most trusted scientific advisor
+
+19:04.760 --> 19:12.600
+and incidentally remember that George Webb is listed in Robert Malone's worst cyberstalkers
+
+19:12.680 --> 19:20.680
+where Robert Malone conveniently links to George Webb's appearance on 60 minutes in 2020
+
+19:22.200 --> 19:28.840
+I mean it's almost like a laughable joke but I have to watch the video and you have to watch
+
+19:28.840 --> 19:35.240
+the video so that you understand that this isn't a joke not when all the videos are still on YouTube
+
+19:36.040 --> 19:44.920
+it's evidence it's evidence in plain sight that we are being played by a group of people
+
+19:44.920 --> 19:52.200
+who has ulterior motives that I don't know what they are but they're not the well-being of the
+
+19:52.200 --> 19:59.320
+conservative wing of the United States I'll tell you that much who ha let's see if we can find
+
+19:59.400 --> 20:06.120
+these futurists here I'm going to escape from this for a minute there he is look at that guy
+
+20:06.840 --> 20:09.400
+I think he was thinner back then in 2021
+
+20:10.840 --> 20:17.800
+after 9-11 I've worked with virtually all of the nature and it does start like that so I apologize
+
+20:17.800 --> 20:24.440
+but it starts with N9-11 so I'm not really sure what they cut out there but Dr. Paul Catrell is there
+
+20:25.080 --> 20:28.200
+and then the global enlightenment radio network is what you see
+
+20:29.160 --> 20:35.800
+vaccine candidates for bio-defense purposes I was at the tip of the spear in in bringing
+
+20:36.360 --> 20:42.360
+the public health agency Canada vaccine forward that we now call the Merck Ebola vaccine I got
+
+20:42.360 --> 20:48.200
+Merck involved and I got the money from the Norwegian government that funded the ring vaccination trials
+
+20:48.840 --> 20:56.440
+and then I have also been right at the forefront of drug repurposing for first for Zika there's a
+
+20:56.440 --> 21:05.560
+number of papers relating to Zika and Zika pathogenesis and drug repurposing started a company that went
+
+21:05.560 --> 21:11.560
+bankrupt I've done I think four different startups in my life and because there was no funding for
+
+21:11.560 --> 21:17.400
+drug repurposing and then since the beginning of this outbreak I got a call from a
+
+21:18.840 --> 21:24.520
+and remember the intelligence community that was in Wuhan that I've published with in the past
+
+21:25.480 --> 21:33.240
+was in Wuhan during the fourth quarter of 2019 and he called me on January 4th of 2020 and
+
+21:33.240 --> 21:39.720
+told me that I need to get my team spun up because this new pathogen so we started working on
+
+21:40.280 --> 21:49.000
+computational screening and docking of entire library of licensed drugs and that eventually
+
+21:49.000 --> 21:56.280
+led to my self administering some of those when I okay so he said computational screening he didn't
+
+21:56.280 --> 22:03.400
+say he didn't say that he made a model of x-ray crystallography he said something about docking
+
+22:04.360 --> 22:10.920
+but that could be an x-ray crystallography model of proteins and then docking them
+
+22:12.520 --> 22:18.840
+but it's not clear if he ran all the known pharmaceuticals through this x-ray crystallography
+
+22:18.840 --> 22:26.280
+modeling program and then tried to dock them with the three cl protease but anyway he describes
+
+22:26.280 --> 22:31.560
+it differently every time this is a 2021 description so maybe he's pretty
+
+22:32.520 --> 22:39.960
+it became infected with the biogen outbreak at the end of February 2020 and that led to the
+
+22:39.960 --> 22:47.640
+discovery of femotidine or pepcid I wrote the north well contract for that together with Jim
+
+22:47.640 --> 22:53.240
+Talton on north well screwed up those trials but we've carried on I've got multiple papers
+
+22:53.240 --> 22:57.160
+published or impressed involving femotidine and then the combination of femotidine and
+
+22:57.240 --> 23:03.880
+cellicoxid and it's taken the first of those papers was uploaded in July of 2020 it's been
+
+23:03.880 --> 23:07.560
+through peer review three times and still not been published it's been approved in peer review
+
+23:07.560 --> 23:13.000
+three times and then pulled by the editors of frontiers at the last minute just like Pierre
+
+23:13.000 --> 23:18.200
+Corey's paper was but those those are the trials that we finally have FDA clearance to proceed on
+
+23:18.760 --> 23:24.200
+so I'm one of not very many people that understand this whole spectrum of vaccines
+
+23:24.200 --> 23:32.040
+pandemics drug repurposing pharmacology and molecular virology so there's a new drug that is
+
+23:32.040 --> 23:36.600
+in clinical trials three I believe it's called I mean you're pronouncing wrong but
+
+23:37.480 --> 23:42.680
+malnew pyro kind of talking about the Merck product yeah yeah yeah it's originally called
+
+23:42.680 --> 23:48.040
+the IDD 2801 it was initially funded by the crew that I work with at the defense threat reduction
+
+23:48.040 --> 23:54.520
+agency we tried to get it in as part of the formulations we freezing a multi drug approach
+
+23:55.080 --> 23:59.240
+and we wanted to include it as so I think that's kind of interesting because it's kind of rare
+
+23:59.240 --> 24:07.480
+that he mentions ditra and here he mentions it right away the team that I work with I'm just
+
+24:07.480 --> 24:14.360
+gonna spool it back so we can hear that that seems to be missing from recent talks yeah yeah it's
+
+24:14.360 --> 24:19.720
+originally called the IDD 2801 it was initially funded by the crew that I work with at defense
+
+24:19.720 --> 24:26.440
+threat reduction agency we tried to get it in as part of the formulations we freezing a multi drug
+
+24:26.440 --> 24:31.080
+approach and we wanted to include it as the antiviral in our in our combination the other
+
+24:31.080 --> 24:37.240
+agents are anti-inflammatories but Merck acquired it from Ridgeback the same character that I was
+
+24:37.240 --> 24:42.840
+just referring to that works for the three letter agencies used to report to the assistant secretary
+
+24:42.840 --> 24:51.720
+for preparedness and defense Bob Cadillac he helped broker the Merck deal so yeah EIDD 2801
+
+24:51.720 --> 24:58.440
+there are so the the name it has to do with the Emory drug discovery group Ration Aussies a famous
+
+24:58.440 --> 25:03.880
+member of that so that's the origin of the original acronym and there are others at Emory that feel
+
+25:03.880 --> 25:08.280
+that this is a highly inappropriate compound to be advancing because of potential reproductive
+
+25:08.280 --> 25:12.760
+toxicology issues that they're concerned about we'll see how that bears there's also so this
+
+25:12.840 --> 25:17.640
+is this is one of the new hopes for direct acting antiviral the other one is the Pfizer
+
+25:18.440 --> 25:23.640
+three seal protease inhibitor so when Tony Fauci kind of did his great pivot two weeks ago and
+
+25:23.640 --> 25:27.880
+suddenly started talking about well we need drugs that we can administer early and turn
+
+25:27.880 --> 25:32.440
+cob it into something like the common cold he was only really thinking about these two agents and
+
+25:33.320 --> 25:40.040
+he he has no enthusiasm for repurposed drug um at the DOD fortunately we're entirely separate
+
+25:40.040 --> 25:47.080
+from Dr. Fauci's control and oversight and so we're able to pursue the science that we see
+
+25:47.080 --> 25:52.280
+as most appropriate and we've been focusing on drug repurposing as I okay um is anyone else
+
+25:52.280 --> 25:55.960
+hearing this I think I have to scroll it back again I mean this is a real
+
+25:56.440 --> 26:00.440
+uh
+
+26:05.480 --> 26:16.440
+what is he doing did he just say we the DOD and we several times the DOD and we did you hear it
+
+26:16.440 --> 26:22.200
+remember Katherine Watt and a bunch of other people said that the DOD is doing this
+
+26:22.520 --> 26:30.280
+remember that Sasha latipova said hey you know the DOD is doing all of this it's the DOD
+
+26:33.640 --> 26:39.240
+what did he just say listen carefully because this is vital to understanding how this story has
+
+26:39.240 --> 26:45.720
+evolved see how that fares there's also so this is this is one of the new hopes for direct acting
+
+26:45.720 --> 26:51.400
+antiviral the other one is the Pfizer uh three seal protease inhibitor so when Tony Fauci
+
+26:51.400 --> 26:56.040
+kind of did his great pivot two weeks ago and suddenly started talking about well we need drugs
+
+26:56.040 --> 27:00.760
+that we can administer early and turn and cob it into something like the common cold he was only
+
+27:00.760 --> 27:06.680
+really thinking about these two agents and uh he he has no enthusiasm for repurposed drug um
+
+27:07.400 --> 27:11.720
+at the DOD fortunately we're entirely separate from uh Dr. Fauci's control
+
+27:11.720 --> 27:26.600
+and oversight and so we're able to pursue the science that we see as most appropriate
+
+27:34.200 --> 27:38.600
+and we've been focusing on drug repurposing as I said from the beginning of the of 2020
+
+27:39.080 --> 27:45.240
+and uh we actually uh in the trials we had designed a three-arm outpatient trial that would be placebo
+
+27:45.240 --> 27:51.320
+versus silicoxib and formatidine versus silicoxib formatidine and ivermectin but the FDA created
+
+27:51.320 --> 27:56.840
+such a storm with their objections to including ivermectin they put clauses in there that were
+
+27:56.840 --> 28:01.640
+so intenable would have taken us six months to a year to satisfy them so we just drop the ivermectin
+
+28:01.640 --> 28:07.240
+arm but the data suggests that the triple combination is really potent and and surprisingly the
+
+28:07.320 --> 28:12.680
+addition of so we've been very laboratory focused in terms of so the formatidine and silicoxib
+
+28:12.680 --> 28:18.120
+combination even in certainly in outpatients but in inpatients we can see uh a point of
+
+28:18.120 --> 28:22.680
+inflection in a lot of the key labs uh that are predictive of outcomes of cob it when we start
+
+28:22.680 --> 28:29.480
+administering drug it's quite striking we we now can manage cob it um using classical laboratory
+
+28:29.480 --> 28:33.480
+assays and make decisions about clinical management one of the things that was intriguing about the
+
+28:33.480 --> 28:38.360
+addition those with ivermectin is that we saw much more rapid improvement of leukocyte
+
+28:38.360 --> 28:45.800
+fraction um in the cbc parents uh and uh it it appears that there is some benefit in terms of
+
+28:45.800 --> 28:52.600
+lymphocyte recovery and uh but then there's the recent data out of israel that that i had thought
+
+28:52.600 --> 28:56.600
+was was not going to be forthcoming there's long been speculation that ivermectin might have
+
+28:56.600 --> 29:01.240
+some direct acting anti-viral activity and and the new israeli double-blame randomized clinical
+
+29:01.240 --> 29:06.360
+trial with only 55 i think is right around 50 or 60 patients its statistical significance
+
+29:06.920 --> 29:13.320
+um and demonstrated that there is an antiviral component to the ivermectin activity so uh you
+
+29:13.320 --> 29:17.160
+know i we'll we'll be testing uh for monidine and silicoxib because that's what we could get
+
+29:17.160 --> 29:22.440
+through the fda and that took us three months of negotiation uh but uh i suspect that in the end
+
+29:22.440 --> 29:27.800
+people will find that the triple might be even more useful there so for three months
+
+29:28.520 --> 29:34.680
+robert malone was in negotiation for trials for combinations of
+
+29:34.680 --> 29:41.720
+femotidine silicoxib ivermectin and then he dropped ivermectin and it's these three other ones
+
+29:43.160 --> 29:51.960
+for at least three months so that would be what january february march february march april
+
+29:52.600 --> 29:59.560
+something like that and already by april i was saying natural immunity and we didn't need
+
+29:59.560 --> 30:03.720
+to shut down and i think we're we're exaggerating and what's going on
+
+30:06.680 --> 30:10.680
+maybe we shouldn't be ventilating everybody and i'm not an md but it seems like that's what
+
+30:10.680 --> 30:15.800
+everybody's complaining about and why are we talking about natural immunity why are we talking
+
+30:15.800 --> 30:24.200
+about antibodies who's using masks and he was spending three months working with the fda to try
+
+30:24.200 --> 30:32.520
+and get trials and euas for these repurposed drugs and here in this particular discussion he's
+
+30:32.520 --> 30:36.760
+not talking about hydroxychloroquine at all even though when he went on joe rugen he mentioned it
+
+30:37.560 --> 30:46.120
+let's see maybe i'll keep going by by address that spectrum of pharmaceuticals and so you saw
+
+30:46.120 --> 30:51.560
+the fluvoxamine data came in positive today that's more news um something like 38 percent
+
+30:51.560 --> 30:58.200
+35 percent our protection in rct's ivermectin and that same trial did not show efficacy
+
+30:58.200 --> 31:03.640
+but they administered the ivermectin late and it relatively low doses so okay it's going to be
+
+31:03.720 --> 31:07.880
+made that that one was kind of set up to fail for the ivermectin arm but the fluvoxamine definitely
+
+31:07.880 --> 31:13.160
+hit statistical significance so we now need to add fluvoxamine as another agent uh that we already
+
+31:13.160 --> 31:20.680
+knew that i mean think about how absurd it is that we're talking about just drugs you know
+
+31:20.680 --> 31:28.120
+patented drugs that have no real use on the market and now we're trying to use them to apply to everyone
+
+31:28.840 --> 31:37.000
+who has a viral disease that's detectable by a pcr and this guy who's a master of molecular
+
+31:37.000 --> 31:44.840
+biology has been working on retroviruses since the start is not at all worried about the pcr being
+
+31:44.840 --> 31:52.840
+used incorrectly he's not at all worried about the a specificity of of laminar flow tests he's
+
+31:52.840 --> 31:59.800
+not at all worried about the misapplication of pcr without nested primers he's only worried
+
+31:59.800 --> 32:06.520
+about getting EUAs for these repurposed drugs to save people's lives you know because there was a
+
+32:06.520 --> 32:16.200
+38 percent you got to see it for what it is ladies and gentlemen at the time in 2021 this still
+
+32:16.200 --> 32:22.280
+sounded like really smart and really great and while at least he's doing something can't believe
+
+32:22.280 --> 32:25.480
+this guy came forward aren't we lucky that he's on our team
+
+32:28.280 --> 32:34.760
+but it's not really like that ladies and gentlemen this is august 2021 when everybody
+
+32:34.760 --> 32:43.640
+already should have been saying stop when i had already published something that said stop in may
+
+32:44.600 --> 32:53.480
+that i started writing in december of 2020 and should have really published in january of 2021
+
+32:58.440 --> 33:02.280
+we need to really consider what this means we need to really see what it means
+
+33:03.560 --> 33:11.480
+and then we need to reevaluate whether this faith in a novel virus that we had to shut down for
+
+33:12.200 --> 33:18.600
+that the mRNA saved a lot of people from and that although it was rushed it can be better
+
+33:18.600 --> 33:24.040
+and that this was gain of function and so we need to be afraid about it coming again this
+
+33:24.040 --> 33:31.480
+faith we need to get rid of it we need to dismiss it and this guy is one of the central priests
+
+33:33.480 --> 33:38.520
+and if you see him on any podcast now in 2023 he will not go against any of those
+
+33:38.520 --> 33:44.200
+tenements that there was a novel virus that we had to shut down he spent three months trying to
+
+33:44.200 --> 33:58.280
+find repurposed drugs with ditra the mRNA saved millions of people and it was again a function
+
+33:58.280 --> 34:02.600
+virus so another one will come again uh you know i i don't know how it turned you have been
+
+34:02.680 --> 34:08.680
+to the fluboxamine story but uh i'm i'm in touch with steve kirsch you know almost hourly he's the
+
+34:08.680 --> 34:15.480
+one that funded the george washington studies gw new uh um this is a different he's in touch with
+
+34:15.480 --> 34:18.760
+steve kirsch almost hourly
+
+34:24.760 --> 34:29.560
+prince so this is now the fourth study about fluboxamine uh that's something that i'm aware of
+
+34:29.560 --> 34:33.560
+that's great you know see the main the watchers need to realize that there is
+
+34:33.560 --> 34:40.760
+there's more tools in the toolbox as researchers like yourself um are hey look those screens work
+
+34:40.760 --> 34:45.640
+usually those screens are just blank but it looks like they actually do work that's kind of cool
+
+34:45.640 --> 34:51.480
+investigating compounds to try to fight the disease coven 19 or you know the virus stars coke too
+
+34:51.480 --> 34:57.240
+sir isn't necessarily the vaccine and the way fauci has been spinning it it was
+
+34:57.240 --> 35:01.640
+moderna moderna moderna from very from the kick call you know it was like that scene right
+
+35:01.640 --> 35:09.080
+that scene of the rc and moderna was created by darva um so uh there's yeah there's all kinds of
+
+35:09.080 --> 35:13.400
+angles here that i prefer not to go into having to do with bill and will indicate
+
+35:13.400 --> 35:18.600
+foundation and the tight relationships there and they're lobbying and uh you know zuckerberg
+
+35:18.600 --> 35:26.920
+chan and uh robert with johnson and w h o and facebook and there's just a huge array of folks
+
+35:26.920 --> 35:32.200
+that are with with money and power that have gone all in on vaccines as the only solution
+
+35:32.920 --> 35:36.760
+and i think i i'm a vaccinologist but my assessment from the outset was that
+
+35:37.880 --> 35:42.040
+that the risk of antibody-dependent enhancement based on prior work with coronavirus vaccine
+
+35:42.040 --> 35:46.440
+development was so great that in the timelines to demonstrate a safe and effective vaccine
+
+35:46.440 --> 35:52.360
+were so long and the uh risk that this was going to hit the states remember i started in in the
+
+35:52.360 --> 35:57.640
+beginning of january i was docking compounds on january 11th after the uh seafood market
+
+35:57.640 --> 36:05.320
+wuhan seafood market virus sequence was first uploaded he was docking compounds now i'm not sure
+
+36:05.320 --> 36:12.920
+if this refers to the model of x-ray crystallography that he talked about in later videos this year
+
+36:13.000 --> 36:19.240
+from earlier this year or earlier last year remember this is 2021 we're now in 2023
+
+36:19.240 --> 36:29.640
+this is pretty long time ago and mark twain told us a very wise observation that he always told
+
+36:29.640 --> 36:36.120
+the truth because then he didn't have to remember anything and so it's pretty easy to keep all your
+
+36:36.120 --> 36:43.960
+details straight if you're telling the truth it gets harder to keep your details straight when
+
+36:43.960 --> 36:51.160
+some of those details are not the truth and so i can't make any statements about what's the truth
+
+36:51.160 --> 36:57.400
+and what's not with anyone else talking but i can tell you that after listening to hours and hours
+
+36:57.960 --> 37:04.680
+of robert melones description of how he entered the race for a coronavirus cure
+
+37:06.280 --> 37:12.760
+and then how he stepped out of it as he went on the bread wine steam podcast that narrative has
+
+37:12.760 --> 37:23.720
+changed narrative has evolved and i'm not sure that that necessarily belies honesty it could also
+
+37:23.720 --> 37:30.920
+suggest something else and here i think is a good couple things that we've caught him on the
+
+37:30.920 --> 37:39.080
+we and the d-o-d we're able to do things aside from fauci so he referred to himself as part of
+
+37:39.080 --> 37:46.280
+the department of defense and he also said that the team that he's working with was dtr a detra
+
+37:47.000 --> 37:54.040
+defense threat reduction agency and the scientific director or the head of the scientific part of
+
+37:54.040 --> 38:02.600
+that organization is david hone a guy who used to sleep on his couch back in postdoc days
+
+38:03.960 --> 38:09.240
+so there's a lot of interesting things in this video that aren't necessarily repeated in the
+
+38:09.240 --> 38:18.760
+video with with steven hatville or in the videos with with uh alison or or with chan and joy for
+
+38:18.760 --> 38:26.920
+example i didn't focus on three cl pro which is what the uh um fizer drug is is inhibiting it's
+
+38:26.920 --> 38:30.920
+protease and rather i focused on the pat pain like protease because i knew that there was
+
+38:30.920 --> 38:36.840
+already a lot of candidates out there and a lot of attention on three uh cl pro i so the pat pain
+
+38:36.840 --> 38:42.760
+like proteases the protease which cuts the poly protein into its functional parts so in case
+
+38:42.760 --> 38:51.560
+you're unaware the way the cartoon of the infectious cycle goes the virus enters the cell it somehow
+
+38:52.200 --> 38:58.280
+unencapsulates the RNA and the RNA finds a ribosome and it translates
+
+38:59.160 --> 39:09.080
+uh or f open reading frame one a an open reading frame one a encodes for poly proteins one a and
+
+39:09.080 --> 39:16.440
+one b or one a and one a b and those are all those two poly proteins actually need to be cut into
+
+39:16.440 --> 39:25.320
+several other proteins which can then assemble into the subunits of the RNA dependent RNA polymerase
+
+39:25.320 --> 39:35.720
+and its chaperone proteins and so you could go for a number of different enzymes but one of the
+
+39:35.720 --> 39:41.400
+enzymes is required to cut that up i think that's the pat pain uh protease if it's not
+
+39:42.760 --> 39:49.400
+then that protease does a similar job with another aspect of of the genome of the virus
+
+39:50.360 --> 39:55.320
+and and the Pfizer is one of many that are that are candidates for inhibitors of three seal pro
+
+39:55.320 --> 40:00.680
+these are both serine proteases and serine proteases inhibitors are notoriously nonspecific in the
+
+40:00.680 --> 40:08.200
+pharmaceutical industry and prone to uh dose limiting toxicity and complications so uh time
+
+40:08.200 --> 40:13.320
+will tell how that plays out and i you know i wish them the best but in with my group of pharmaceutical
+
+40:13.320 --> 40:21.080
+experts uh we've always been very wary of the potential risks associated with focusing on serine
+
+40:21.080 --> 40:28.600
+protease so so the potential risks for focusing on serine protease i presume is what he's implying
+
+40:28.600 --> 40:35.320
+is that it's not very specific so when you take a protease inhibitor you're also going to inhibit
+
+40:35.320 --> 40:40.280
+your own proteases which could have all kinds of effects that we don't really know i presume
+
+40:40.360 --> 40:45.320
+that's what he's saying so i see invasion one is that the name the invasion
+
+40:46.120 --> 40:51.800
+invasion one if he knew the risk of ad was so high that why would he ever take a jab for
+
+40:51.800 --> 40:59.480
+something that he had just recently had there's no question that that's 100 correct and it makes
+
+40:59.480 --> 41:06.760
+robermalone not look very smart for a guy who really knows everything about the immune system and
+
+41:07.240 --> 41:15.400
+viruses and virology and genetics and patents and and fill and finish technologies for
+
+41:16.200 --> 41:22.520
+for vire uh vire vaccine production it's certainly pretty silly to write a paper
+
+41:23.320 --> 41:31.080
+about antibody dependent enhancement get the virus at the biogen conference in in february and then
+
+41:31.080 --> 41:36.760
+take the shot before you go on on bread wine steins podcast because you had to travel
+
+41:38.680 --> 41:45.480
+like you're not clever enough to get a vaccine card without getting the vaccine because you know
+
+41:45.480 --> 41:53.560
+it's dangerous i mean it's extraordinary it's extraordinarily tall tale of woe
+
+41:55.160 --> 41:59.560
+the cocktail that you've been investigating is that with or without the corticosteroids
+
+42:00.040 --> 42:03.880
+great individual that matter of fact we've got strong data that if you add dexamethasone you
+
+42:03.880 --> 42:08.840
+kill people uh that they no i'm not kidding you can laugh the paper is out there we just had
+
+42:08.840 --> 42:12.680
+it provisioned yeah paul control just laughed about how many people in there to hear him
+
+42:12.680 --> 42:17.640
+that if you add dexamethasone you kill people uh that they no i'm not kidding you can laugh the
+
+42:17.640 --> 42:21.480
+paper is out there we just had it provisionally accepted i just got to make a couple modifications
+
+42:21.480 --> 42:24.920
+about how many people i mean don't get mad at him for laughing he's not an m d
+
+42:25.880 --> 42:30.040
+his phd that he calls himself dr paul control it's right there
+
+42:31.400 --> 42:38.680
+dr paul control i have to yell really loud before you can see on the side of my screen that it says
+
+42:39.480 --> 42:43.640
+that it says jonathan jay cooey phd but it doesn't say doctor cooey
+
+42:46.600 --> 42:52.200
+and there's a reason why i make that choice and there's a reason why paul control makes that choice
+
+42:53.160 --> 42:58.040
+robert malone doesn't have to do his podcast robert malone can do a million podcasts he just
+
+42:58.040 --> 43:04.520
+came out two months before this on bret wine steam he's the most interesting man in the world
+
+43:04.520 --> 43:11.880
+right now why in the heck is he on a podcast with paul control who's laughing about the fact
+
+43:11.880 --> 43:18.440
+that if you add dexamethasone to his cocktail of cures you can actually kill people or you can
+
+43:18.520 --> 43:24.040
+laugh about it but it's uh funny we've got strong data that if you add dexamethasone you kill people
+
+43:25.160 --> 43:28.760
+that they no i'm not kidding you can laugh the paper is out there we just had it
+
+43:28.760 --> 43:31.880
+provisionally accepted i just got to make a couple modifications about how many people in the
+
+43:32.520 --> 43:37.880
+study group were smokers uh which you know affects not a risk um and not always in a negative way
+
+43:38.680 --> 43:45.480
+so um they were not active smokers they were recovered smokers uh in that actually because of
+
+43:45.480 --> 43:51.000
+the groups they were in it actually makes our conclusions even stronger but uh you know if
+
+43:51.000 --> 43:56.520
+if your readers or if you want to post a link um i can send you the uh we put everything up on
+
+43:56.520 --> 44:02.040
+preprint servers right away because of the nature of the emergency and uh so the formatidine
+
+44:02.040 --> 44:07.400
+plus celococcib with them without dexamethasone paper it's readily available um on a preprint
+
+44:07.400 --> 44:13.160
+server and it clearly shows uh we jump from zero percent case fatality rate in hospitalized
+
+44:13.160 --> 44:20.040
+cobbid wcho you know four to six um to uh something like 23 or 25 mortality in the presence of dexamethasone
+
+44:20.600 --> 44:27.960
+we then verified it's not generally understood by most docs but the uh the data supporting dex
+
+44:28.680 --> 44:33.560
+is really quite tenuous it it took a lot of statistical manipulation to show statistical
+
+44:33.560 --> 44:38.520
+significance it's in a very small cohort that it does reach statistical significance it's very
+
+44:38.520 --> 44:43.640
+limited um it should not be used as widely as it's being used based if you're going to go fully
+
+44:43.640 --> 44:50.600
+evidence-based uh and um we're there's overlap in terms of the mechanism of action with celococcib
+
+44:50.600 --> 44:56.920
+any more if the uh the data supporting dex is really quite tenuous oh dexamethasone
+
+44:56.920 --> 45:01.720
+a lot of statistical manipulation to show statistical significance it's in a very small cohort
+
+45:01.720 --> 45:06.680
+that it does reach statistical significance is very limited um it should not be used as
+
+45:06.680 --> 45:12.280
+widely as it's being used based if you're going to go fully evidence-based uh and um we're
+
+45:13.080 --> 45:17.640
+there's overlap in terms of the mechanism of action with celococcib when you add the two
+
+45:17.640 --> 45:23.320
+they're definitely more toxic and lethal and uh this was verified in a platform trial called
+
+45:23.320 --> 45:28.280
+iSpyte that hasn't been published yet uh that we also funded through DoD. Absolutely somebody in
+
+45:28.280 --> 45:33.720
+the chat therapy McDonough is pointing out that just a minute ago he told us that it reached
+
+45:33.720 --> 45:40.680
+statistical significance for 37 percent of the people and so he got his p-value and now
+
+45:41.400 --> 45:47.400
+his his drugs are significant but dexamethasone needed extra special statistical treatment or
+
+45:47.400 --> 45:53.320
+something like that it's pretty disingenuous if you're going to use p-values and then criticize
+
+45:53.320 --> 45:59.720
+other people for using p-values it's pretty weak we had we had counseled that they should not
+
+45:59.720 --> 46:04.520
+proceed with the trial arm in the presence of dex but they insisted that they do so because
+
+46:04.520 --> 46:11.080
+they considered it standard of care in their uh they're basically a WHO56 cohort so this is under
+
+46:11.880 --> 46:18.040
+high flow oxygen or or intubation and uh so that is where dex is indicated uh they insisted that
+
+46:18.040 --> 46:22.200
+we had to have dex on board and they wanted to go ahead with the trial and in fact they verified
+
+46:22.280 --> 46:28.840
+that uh the trends were such that we would be uh um i don't know how to say this delicately uh
+
+46:29.640 --> 46:34.680
+more more patients would be lost on the triple combination their study also has a standard of
+
+46:34.680 --> 46:40.200
+care remdesivir and and i suspect that your viewership may be aware that remdesivir's efficacy is
+
+46:41.160 --> 46:46.840
+not quite what we led to believe uh in and uh most would say that it doesn't support the license
+
+46:46.840 --> 46:51.720
+that it has right now the authorization in any case that's that's a tangent that's going down
+
+46:51.720 --> 46:57.240
+a rabbit hole going down a rabbit hole you don't want to just say that they're poisoning people
+
+46:57.240 --> 47:05.000
+with it Robert that's going down a rabbit hole it doesn't have the efficacy that we were sold on it
+
+47:06.440 --> 47:11.400
+are you kidding me and i don't want to talk about it that's going down a rabbit hole so i'll just
+
+47:11.400 --> 47:20.120
+leave it there in august of 2021 when you could have said you know all of my drugs work better
+
+47:20.120 --> 47:27.480
+than remdesivir but they've been given remdesivir for a year already because when did they start
+
+47:27.480 --> 47:31.960
+giving remdesivir ladies and gentlemen who's the first person they treated with remdesivir
+
+47:32.920 --> 47:41.240
+thanks to marcusatonic marculac we know without a doubt that it's because of sahomich county man
+
+47:41.240 --> 47:47.640
+in washington state where the first guy was treated for what passionate compassionate
+
+47:47.640 --> 47:54.680
+whatever with remdesivir the guy wasn't even really sick we don't even know where the hell he went
+
+47:55.480 --> 47:59.800
+but we sequenced his virus was so much so that we built our PCR test on it
+
+48:02.600 --> 48:08.680
+and that guy was the first case where we used remdesivir a few weeks later tony fauci would
+
+48:08.680 --> 48:17.160
+sit on the couch of the white house right next to uh debra burks and explain how similar it was
+
+48:17.960 --> 48:23.480
+to with the early part of aids when we didn't know what to use against aids and now we don't
+
+48:23.480 --> 48:31.320
+know what to use against coronavirus but here we are and we're reducing hospitalization from 14 to 11
+
+48:31.320 --> 48:38.920
+days and so we're giving it an EUA and we're telling everybody in the united states to use it in
+
+48:38.920 --> 48:47.560
+hospitals and after a year of doing that more than a year of doing that that's what robert melon
+
+48:47.560 --> 48:58.520
+has got to say about it uh but yeah remdesivir's efficacy is and and i suspect that your viewership
+
+48:58.520 --> 49:05.720
+may be aware that remdesivir's efficacy is um not quite what we were led to believe uh in uh most
+
+49:05.720 --> 49:10.760
+would say that it doesn't support the license that it has right now the authorization in any case
+
+49:10.760 --> 49:14.920
+that's that's a tangent that's going down a rabbit hole uh but yeah stay away from the steroids if
+
+49:15.000 --> 49:18.440
+you're going to use fomotic and cellophaxis and it's a good thing and you'll see in a paper
+
+49:18.440 --> 49:22.520
+you've got a lengthy discussion he just stopped that's it that's all he's going to say about
+
+49:22.520 --> 49:31.720
+remdesivir it's being used nationwide he's just going to stop right there no more because it's a
+
+49:31.720 --> 49:42.760
+rabbit hole why because somebody said snake venom maybe should uh in that one uh in which
+
+49:42.760 --> 49:48.040
+I extensively quote tony fauci for an interesting review paper he did on decks a few years ago um
+
+49:48.600 --> 49:54.120
+decks decks is like a great big hammer to the immune system and uh absolutely not you know a
+
+49:54.120 --> 49:58.600
+case can be made that that decks is a great drug if you've got hospitalized coven and you want to
+
+49:58.600 --> 50:03.320
+pump your numbers up by getting them out the door and transferring them to a extended care facility
+
+50:04.120 --> 50:07.720
+instead of having them die in your hospital to be a little bit jaded but in fact that's what goes
+
+50:07.720 --> 50:16.120
+on is there's a lot of manipulation of hospital case fatality rates by offloading uh um uh
+
+50:16.120 --> 50:23.080
+patients to uh um various triage options and and decks is a great way to stabilize and get out
+
+50:23.080 --> 50:28.520
+the door and that is one way that is used in some hospital environments that's very interesting
+
+50:28.520 --> 50:34.440
+so let's let's pin it to the antibody dependent enhancement and vaccine associated disease
+
+50:34.520 --> 50:39.800
+enhancement now what's your take on what's going on with delta i'm from your observation where you're
+
+50:39.800 --> 50:44.360
+where you're sitting and all the resources you're doing i see high processes um so there's a
+
+50:44.360 --> 50:48.520
+that i just mentioned the Lancet paper that's just out that you haven't had a chance to read yet uh
+
+50:48.520 --> 50:53.480
+which takes patients that were uh basically two months out from vaccination that are break
+
+50:53.480 --> 50:58.360
+your cases and examines their characteristics so there's no real solid control in in the sense
+
+50:58.440 --> 51:06.360
+that you don't have um delta in uh unvaccinated or delta in um you know there's kind of like three
+
+51:06.360 --> 51:13.560
+cohorts right there's vaccinated there's previously infected unvaccinated and then there is uh naive
+
+51:13.560 --> 51:20.040
+unvaccinated those are three key cohorts and this only examines the one which is vaccinated at a
+
+51:20.040 --> 51:24.680
+time point it's a slice of patients that are breakthroughs at a time point of approximately
+
+51:25.560 --> 51:30.920
+eight weeks after vaccination so basically at completion of those two so this is peak
+
+51:31.720 --> 51:38.360
+for immune response uh in theory and what they found was that in the patients who
+
+51:39.320 --> 51:45.080
+had these breakthrough infections i think the number i don't have a paper here in front of me so
+
+51:45.080 --> 51:52.040
+fact checkers please don't skewer me uh forgive me for my elderly mind that is not a steel trap
+
+51:52.120 --> 52:00.760
+as it might once have been but i think it was 20 plus fold higher levels of of viremia then observed
+
+52:00.760 --> 52:08.280
+um uh with uh previously with alpha variant and this is in the vaccinated cohort uh infected
+
+52:08.280 --> 52:14.600
+with delta so comparing historic data involving alpha infections in the unvaccinated two uh
+
+52:14.600 --> 52:20.680
+delta infections in the uh previously vaccinated times two months prior uh in those breakthroughs
+
+52:20.680 --> 52:27.080
+they saw a huge increase in the overall titer relative to the comparator but then uh what they
+
+52:27.080 --> 52:31.320
+found was the characteristics of the breakthrough cases was that they were the subset that had
+
+52:31.320 --> 52:38.120
+relatively low titers uh so basically it's not that the the case is being made that it's not the
+
+52:38.120 --> 52:44.280
+distribution of breakthroughs is not uniform in this cohort that is two months out after vaccination
+
+52:44.280 --> 52:50.680
+but rather is is uh skewed into the cohort of vaccine recipients that were relatively low
+
+52:50.680 --> 52:56.600
+responders why does this matter um what we're seeing in the israeli data and now uk and some
+
+52:56.600 --> 53:01.080
+of the other countries that are coming online is that particularly in the israeli case delta hit
+
+53:01.080 --> 53:06.280
+at about six months you know four to six months after they finish their massive vaccine campaign
+
+53:06.280 --> 53:10.920
+and in israel we had uh really good vaccine uptake that's part of why Pfizer selected
+
+53:10.920 --> 53:17.240
+and did a special deal with uh um israel uh in that has some interesting contract terms i'm told
+
+53:17.880 --> 53:24.680
+having to do with uh um prohibited disclosure of adverse events that are collected um but yes
+
+53:25.320 --> 53:30.680
+i have this straight eatedly from his early scientists uh it's not publicly disclosed so so
+
+53:30.680 --> 53:34.680
+they they Pfizer went into israel because it's a very compliant population in fact they got very
+
+53:34.680 --> 53:39.560
+good vaccine uptake and then you may recall a few weeks ago Pfizer announced that the uh
+
+53:39.560 --> 53:43.720
+vaccine was going to need to be boosted at six months because the durability was poor
+
+53:44.360 --> 53:49.720
+and uh you may recall dr fauci reprimanding them for making that statement and then two weeks later
+
+53:49.720 --> 53:55.560
+this became u.s government policy and they're now about to roll out uh revax nation uh dose number
+
+53:55.560 --> 54:01.640
+three at six months in uh high-risk elderly and immunocompromised so that's pretty well an
+
+54:01.640 --> 54:06.680
+admission of this so the thing about the israeli getting group getting hit by delta at a brown six
+
+54:06.680 --> 54:12.040
+months is that that is just the window when they're starting to move into their the majority
+
+54:12.040 --> 54:19.640
+of their population being in the uh uh waning phase or uh no longer effective phase of the primary
+
+54:19.640 --> 54:24.440
+vaccine that they received and as you know and i'm understanding that your viewership is a more
+
+54:24.440 --> 54:28.520
+sophisticated audience uh the highest risk for antibody-dependent enhancement is in the waning
+
+54:28.520 --> 54:35.000
+phase because the slope is long so there's kind of like two windows of high risk if you can think of
+
+54:35.000 --> 54:41.720
+my uh intersection of these two straight lines of my hands uh if if you imagine the peak uh here
+
+54:41.720 --> 54:48.520
+is um shortly after uh completion of two doses the the ascending phase of the immune response is
+
+54:48.520 --> 54:55.080
+fairly steep and so the time the delta t in which you cross between um the threshold of immune
+
+54:55.080 --> 55:00.600
+response response necessary for protection and as you're climbing towards peak response it's fairly
+
+55:00.600 --> 55:05.320
+short it's very brief and then there's a long declining phase and so when you cross that window
+
+55:05.320 --> 55:10.440
+where you still have antibodies but insufficient tighter of antibodies and presumably insufficient
+
+55:10.440 --> 55:15.880
+tighter of the most potent antibodies uh because of the waning phase you have a much longer window
+
+55:15.880 --> 55:21.800
+of stability we still have antibodies around it combined the virus but if you don't have enough
+
+55:21.800 --> 55:27.320
+it will neutralize so he's really just finishing off here with the idea that anybody's antibodies
+
+55:28.040 --> 55:34.440
+right and and and actually paul asked him to go right into antibody-dependent enhancement and
+
+55:35.320 --> 55:43.160
+and and uh vaccine-induced uh disease enhancement or something like that which is all basically
+
+55:43.160 --> 55:50.760
+the same thing you make antibodies which can protect the virus from complement attack you make antibodies
+
+55:51.400 --> 55:59.800
+that can make the virus uh more likely to be taken up by other cell types you can protect the virus
+
+55:59.800 --> 56:06.360
+from neutralizing antibodies you can stabilize the spike protein in an open configuration after
+
+56:06.360 --> 56:12.040
+fear and cleavage with uh the right antibody there's almost infinite possibilities because of what
+
+56:12.040 --> 56:18.600
+we talked about with regard to what epitopes really are they're not sequences of amino acids
+
+56:19.400 --> 56:25.000
+they are three-dimensional electrostatic shapes and these three-dimensional electrostatic shapes
+
+56:25.000 --> 56:31.800
+are selected from the tertiary structure of the protein that is being processed and presented
+
+56:31.800 --> 56:40.920
+by the immune system there's no way for us to predict that that's a combinatorial nightmare of
+
+56:40.920 --> 56:47.720
+the possibilities that exist there and we have no idea how the body how the immune system sells
+
+56:47.720 --> 56:53.240
+decide about how that three-dimensional puzzle should be solved but here they are
+
+56:54.040 --> 56:59.960
+talking about potent antibodies and not so potent antibodies um it's all the same
+
+57:03.320 --> 57:08.360
+and so that's the end of the video but uh it was you know it's a it's a it's a throwback
+
+57:08.360 --> 57:15.400
+Thursday I mean that was the idea it's not um it's not maybe not surprising that it's uh that
+
+57:15.400 --> 57:24.360
+it's like that um and so yeah let's just remember some things and then we'll go to go to sleep
+
+57:24.360 --> 57:30.760
+early I'm going to be done before 10 while that's exciting what is this saying
+
+57:46.280 --> 57:51.560
+so they told us this story about a dangerous novel virus right and how did they get us
+
+57:52.200 --> 57:59.080
+to believe it they got us to believe it with this consensus of an illusion of consensus rather
+
+58:00.120 --> 58:07.000
+it's the it's the laughter in the background it's the uniformity across every newscast
+
+58:07.000 --> 58:11.160
+it was the uniformity of of opinion created by censorship
+
+58:11.800 --> 58:17.640
+the yin and the yang of that or the yang of that would be the the laugh track
+
+58:18.760 --> 58:25.560
+in Seinfeld excuse me I think you forgot my bread bread dude the laugh track is an illusion of
+
+58:25.560 --> 58:33.400
+consensus that makes this funnier you want bread yes please three dollars nothing for you
+
+58:34.120 --> 58:41.400
+and without that illusion of consensus it has a very different feel
+
+58:43.560 --> 58:50.040
+and without the illusion of consensus them telling you that there was a dangerous novel virus
+
+58:50.040 --> 58:55.480
+spreading from the from the from somewhere in china and it was going to kill up to a billion
+
+58:55.480 --> 59:02.360
+people would have seemed absurd if there wasn't this illusion of consensus
+
+59:03.880 --> 59:08.840
+this illusion of consensus in the background and in the foreground and on tv and in what they
+
+59:08.840 --> 59:16.520
+covered up and what they lied about and the emails created an illusion of consensus that
+
+59:16.520 --> 59:22.760
+made all of us believe that something very dangerous was happening otherwise why would we
+
+59:22.760 --> 59:32.200
+shut down why would we shut down schools why would we close businesses why would we give kids
+
+59:32.200 --> 59:38.920
+iPads why would we separate people who have been married for 50 years on their deathbed
+
+59:38.920 --> 59:43.960
+why would we separate them if it wasn't just an absolute nightmare of a virus
+
+59:47.080 --> 59:51.720
+all these people aren't talking about what's important notice that Robert Malone again master
+
+59:51.720 --> 01:00:00.040
+of molecular biology when discussing the fraud of the pandemic the fraud of the pandemic never
+
+01:00:00.040 --> 01:00:08.200
+evolved around PCR testing it never even came close to revolving around PCR testing he was too
+
+01:00:08.200 --> 01:00:15.960
+busy getting EUAs when the PCR test was being used to justify all the lockdowns to justify the spread
+
+01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:25.720
+of a novel virus whose sequence was found all over the world in a week and the guy who's been working
+
+01:00:25.720 --> 01:00:30.520
+with people like you know a Murray gardener the guy who brought the AIDS virus home in a
+
+01:00:30.520 --> 01:00:37.240
+eppendorf tube in his pocket after having stolen it from the lab in France and he brought it back
+
+01:00:37.240 --> 01:00:50.040
+to gallows lab as I recall Robert Malone worked with him this is not nobody this is a guy who has
+
+01:00:50.920 --> 01:01:02.920
+intellectual and scientific roots that go right down to the the clay bottom the moistest soil of the
+
+01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:14.200
+swamp his roots go deep and long into this history and for whatever reason his the vine of his
+
+01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:23.000
+history weaves right through it all and a lot of these people need more scrutiny because they're
+
+01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:28.040
+just not talking about things that they could be talking about where is anybody but Jessica
+
+01:01:28.040 --> 01:01:35.080
+Hockett talking about what happened in New York City Pierre Corey left a job in Wisconsin to go
+
+01:01:35.080 --> 01:01:42.120
+work in New York City why isn't Pierre Corey shouting from the rooftops about Jessica Hockett's data
+
+01:01:44.200 --> 01:01:51.000
+he threw away his career at the University of Wisconsin as an ER guy critical care guy and went
+
+01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:55.320
+to New York City because they wouldn't let him treat patients the way he wanted to be treated
+
+01:01:55.320 --> 01:02:02.600
+they to treat them in Wisconsin and then he went to New York and what did he find I don't know he
+
+01:02:02.600 --> 01:02:12.680
+wrote a book about Ivermectin he lied to us about this stuff ladies and gentlemen
+
+01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:20.840
+they lied to us about this by not talking about the light blue area by not talking about the between
+
+01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:28.200
+50 and 60 thousand people that die every week in America and instead they told us a story about
+
+01:02:28.200 --> 01:02:35.720
+a dangerous novel virus that could be detected by 250 different PCR tests and people like Robert
+
+01:02:35.720 --> 01:02:41.080
+Malone and all the other people at the head of this are not questioning the PCR test at all
+
+01:02:41.080 --> 01:02:49.640
+anymore when they go in front of the EU they're only talking about the Scooby-Doo that this is a
+
+01:02:49.640 --> 01:02:56.360
+dangerous virus that was released from a laboratory gain a function you bad guys and that's not possible
+
+01:02:56.360 --> 01:03:05.080
+because a natural coronavirus swarm cannot pandemic but an NIAID funded infectious clone may very well
+
+01:03:05.080 --> 01:03:12.280
+have been used to seed the molecular sequence around the world and then the PCR test used to
+
+01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:21.240
+rope in all-cause mortality the protocol changes could have easily resulted in this excess mortality
+
+01:03:21.240 --> 01:03:26.920
+that was here and the goal has always been a total surrender of individual sovereignty
+
+01:03:27.640 --> 01:03:31.320
+and an enforcement of global fundamental inversion from basic human rights
+
+01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:34.840
+to basic granted permissions
+
+01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:46.280
+in scenarios one through three of the Scooby-Doo mystery it is a batcave virus that wasn't here
+
+01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:54.360
+before and then showed up later went around the world for the last three years killed millions
+
+01:03:54.360 --> 01:04:00.440
+of people maybe we made some mistakes maybe we didn't maybe the mRNA was rushed maybe it wasn't
+
+01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:04.840
+but there was definitely a novel virus we definitely had to do something it could definitely come
+
+01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:13.800
+again because it's gain a function and what i'm saying is is that if you believe in a in that then
+
+01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:20.920
+you you you might as well buy some igloos in florida because they have told us nothing about the
+
+01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:27.720
+signal that was in 2018 nothing about the signal that was present in 2019 because there's no data
+
+01:04:28.600 --> 01:04:34.840
+nobody was doing PCR for a coronavirus RNA dependent RNA polymerase or a coronavirus
+
+01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:42.040
+end protein in 2019 so we have no baseline and so wherever we rolled out the test we got a certain
+
+01:04:42.040 --> 01:04:45.640
+number of positives but they didn't correlate with symptoms all the time so then what
+
+01:04:49.080 --> 01:04:53.000
+that's the problem this conflated background signal
+
+01:04:53.000 --> 01:05:00.920
+using a PCR test that can't differentiate from it is how you turn some little bit of a signal into
+
+01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:08.280
+a huge signal you take a little tiny signal in luhan and a bigger signal in iran and a few cases
+
+01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:15.880
+in america like sohomish county man sequence them show everybody that the sequences are highly
+
+01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:21.960
+correlative and say that something new is spreading just like in the picture above my head there's
+
+01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:31.160
+the bat getting out of the petri dish but on the background of other viruses other signals other
+
+01:05:31.160 --> 01:05:42.040
+RNA positives other PCR positives and so you don't have to have a perfect explanation it could be
+
+01:05:42.040 --> 01:05:48.280
+endemic coronavirus if you like that one protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine
+
+01:05:49.240 --> 01:05:54.680
+it could be an infectious clone release that's also fine
+
+01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:08.920
+but then transfection is still not medicine and it could be a transfection agent release
+
+01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:17.080
+that too why not but then it's still protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine
+
+01:06:19.240 --> 01:06:25.160
+and so i think we've got to come to this you know this is the one that covers the most ground
+
+01:06:25.160 --> 01:06:31.800
+this is the one that covers the most possibility space this is the one that takes into account
+
+01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:38.520
+things in the correct ratios if the protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine
+
+01:06:39.720 --> 01:06:45.960
+if the PCR tests they used in 2020 and 2021 were not specific for a particular coronavirus
+
+01:06:46.680 --> 01:06:51.720
+then there is no other story to tell you want to find the clone let's go find it
+
+01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:55.480
+you want to find the background signal let's go find it
+
+01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:04.200
+but if you want to look for again a function virus and you want to look for spike protein
+
+01:07:05.320 --> 01:07:09.880
+and you want to look for all these other stories about you know viruses being released over and
+
+01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:18.120
+over and over again then you're not you're not adequately exploring this this first and most
+
+01:07:18.120 --> 01:07:23.800
+parsimonious possibility that there is a background signal that is being conflated as a pandemic
+
+01:07:25.480 --> 01:07:32.040
+much much easier than repeated releases of all kinds of clones and then careful coordination
+
+01:07:32.040 --> 01:07:38.680
+of the sequencing of them and careful monitoring of their spread might sound very enticing
+
+01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:48.280
+but it's highly unlikely because again once you realize that everybody's lying why wouldn't they
+
+01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:56.360
+lie about that too once you realize that the foundation of this is lies he can't take anything
+
+01:07:56.360 --> 01:08:02.680
+for granted anymore least of all again a function virus still spreading like wildfire around the
+
+01:08:02.680 --> 01:08:05.080
+planet
+
+01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:14.600
+uhah i don't know maybe i'm saying too much here but this is definitely it i'll skip the no virus
+
+01:08:14.600 --> 01:08:18.520
+one for this time they changed the way we think they changed the way we think about certain things
+
+01:08:18.520 --> 01:08:24.280
+and that's why they were able to get us to do certain things and the vast majority of those
+
+01:08:24.280 --> 01:08:29.640
+changes were detrimental to our society and that's remained detrimental to our society
+
+01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:34.280
+those are the things that people don't want to talk about like Robert Malone in this video
+
+01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:42.440
+from 2021 where he doesn't want to talk about remdesivir because it's a rabbit hole
+
+01:08:44.440 --> 01:08:49.960
+remdesivir doesn't have the efficacy that his you know sophisticated users obviously know that
+
+01:08:50.600 --> 01:08:57.400
+are sophisticated viewers of Paul Catrell's podcast know that that remdesivir doesn't have
+
+01:08:57.400 --> 01:09:02.440
+the efficacy that we were sold with it is but i don't really want to go into that because it's
+
+01:09:02.440 --> 01:09:10.920
+a rabbit hole it's on my list it's on marx list of things that killed more people than the virus
+
+01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:22.920
+by multiple orders of magnitude and even if there was a clone or a virus spreading the remdesivir
+
+01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:31.320
+would never have helped clear it you want to make some argument that that denizen and and uh
+
+01:09:31.320 --> 01:09:36.280
+Ralph Barrack said in a seminar that if you give it in the first day of infection it has some
+
+01:09:36.280 --> 01:09:44.040
+effect fine but how do you know when that is and so it's irrelevant remdesivir is useless
+
+01:09:44.040 --> 01:09:51.240
+unless you're using a clone and you're just you're using it like you're deploying it and so therefore
+
+01:09:51.240 --> 01:09:56.360
+you know when you're going to be exposed to it otherwise remdesivir makes no sense at all
+
+01:09:57.080 --> 01:10:04.680
+and it's a poison because as Robert Malone said when you interfere with protein synthesis it's
+
+01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:11.720
+pretty a specific remdesivir does doesn't interfere with protein synthesis of viral proteins it
+
+01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:17.640
+interferes with all protein synthesis in the body of a person who takes it so how's that gonna work
+
+01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:22.600
+out sure it shows up as kidney failure but does that mean that that's all it does
+
+01:10:31.160 --> 01:10:36.840
+this is the hypothesis that i think covers us this is the hypothesis that i think everybody
+
+01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:42.600
+needs to be able to hold in their head as a form you know like a baseball or a basketball
+
+01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:49.160
+if i say that and i say imagine holding a leather basketball in your hand most people can imagine
+
+01:10:49.160 --> 01:10:54.280
+what that feels like the rough weight and size and we've got to get people to understand the
+
+01:10:54.280 --> 01:11:00.440
+biology of the of the immune system and the biology of transfection and the biology of our
+
+01:11:00.440 --> 01:11:07.400
+name versus DNA and the fidelity impossibility here we've got to get people to understand
+
+01:11:07.960 --> 01:11:15.960
+this as a hypothesis so that they can see how plausible this is and how comparatively absurd
+
+01:11:16.520 --> 01:11:23.240
+most of the other parts of this are forms of this narrative are we've got to make people
+
+01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:28.680
+be able to get across that finish line of understanding this biology that's the goal for the following
+
+01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:36.040
+year because before we're going to be able to break free and wake people up they need to understand
+
+01:11:36.040 --> 01:11:41.720
+that and then we can get them to understand this that it's about data it's about collecting
+
+01:11:41.720 --> 01:11:47.560
+it's about what Jamie Metzel said yesterday at his opening speech for the Bayer conference
+
+01:11:48.200 --> 01:11:53.080
+it's about collecting a billion or two billion genomes at all the medical and bioinformatics
+
+01:11:53.080 --> 01:12:03.400
+that go along with it you can find me at gigome dot bio it's https colon backslash backslash like
+
+01:12:03.400 --> 01:12:10.360
+that you know just that little thing up there it's like a twitter but it's not twitter and
+
+01:12:10.360 --> 01:12:15.240
+we're all there now and it's starting to work out okay so I think this might catch on and you can
+
+01:12:15.240 --> 01:12:22.600
+watch to follow other people as well there it's just that open fetaverse of decentralized servers
+
+01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:28.200
+all sharing their their data and then you can find all my links there excuse me as well
+
+01:12:28.360 --> 01:12:34.760
+please remember the transfection is not immunization and actually intramuscular injection of any
+
+01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:40.040
+combination of chemicals to augment the immune system seems pretty dumb to me please stop all
+
+01:12:40.040 --> 01:12:46.120
+transfections in humans and that's because they're trying to eliminate the control group by any
+
+01:12:46.120 --> 01:12:56.200
+means necessary in case you're forgotten um this is gigome biological high resistance low noise
+
+01:12:56.200 --> 01:13:05.000
+information stream brought to you by a biologist tomorrow at 10 a.m oh yeah thanks to the broken
+
+01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:09.160
+science initiative if you haven't seen Greg's talk I'm going to do that I think some one of these
+
+01:13:09.160 --> 01:13:16.040
+days coming up very shortly um support the the broken science initiative by sharing their podcasts
+
+01:13:16.040 --> 01:13:21.880
+and stuff like that I'm not suggesting you need to support them or go buy stuff but they are a
+
+01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:28.680
+really great idea um and they're moving forward with curriculums and books and and stuff so right
+
+01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:34.360
+now the podcast is the thing to share and just get the word out that this exists in the Greg and
+
+01:13:34.360 --> 01:13:40.920
+and Emily are working so hard to push this aspect of of broken science out of our society
+
+01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:47.400
+and then tomorrow morning at 10 a.m eastern time if you go to the chd website you will see live on
+
+01:13:47.480 --> 01:13:55.240
+chd tv the recording from yesterday will show up at 10 a.m so um I hope it's okay I do make
+
+01:13:56.200 --> 01:14:01.400
+I will say right here that I do make a little mistake about dc sign because I get it mixed up
+
+01:14:01.400 --> 01:14:10.040
+in my head and I I kind of am right that it's that it can stimulate T cell uh activate T cells
+
+01:14:10.040 --> 01:14:14.600
+it can stimulate receptors on T cells it can also stimulate receptors and it's a receptor
+
+01:14:14.600 --> 01:14:21.000
+found on dendritic cells but I didn't adequately characterize it I kind of mentioned it and stumbled
+
+01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:25.400
+around on it so that's probably the one part of this that I'm not going to be happy about when I
+
+01:14:25.400 --> 01:14:31.080
+see it tomorrow but anyway I hope you enjoyed the uh the stream tonight it's done before 10 o'clock
+
+01:14:31.080 --> 01:14:34.520
+so I'm really happy about that I might get to bed on time thanks very much for joining me I'll
+
+01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:44.520
+see you guys again tomorrow
+
+01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:19.640
+so
+
+01:16:34.520 --> 01:16:36.520
+You
+
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+I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
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+I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
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+I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
+
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+for 16 minutes next.
+
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+He's going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television.
+
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+People everywhere are starting to listen to him.
+
+03:01.520 --> 03:02.520
+It's embarrassing.
+
+03:09.520 --> 03:11.020
+Hey, listen to this gang.
+
+03:11.020 --> 03:14.320
+Teenage sleuth, solved boat hijacking mystery.
+
+03:14.320 --> 03:17.820
+Captain Cutler and his wife taken into custody by sheriff.
+
+03:17.820 --> 03:20.320
+That was some plan they had.
+
+03:20.320 --> 03:23.320
+First spreading the phony story about Cutler,
+
+03:23.320 --> 03:26.320
+and then stealing the yachts from the marina.
+
+03:26.320 --> 03:29.820
+That night on the beach, Cutler was storing extra scuba tanks
+
+03:29.820 --> 03:31.320
+in the graveyard of the ship.
+
+03:31.320 --> 03:36.820
+Yeah, but like his diving suit got covered with that kooky-glowing seaweed.
+
+03:38.820 --> 03:41.820
+And that's where the glowing ghost story came from.
+
+03:41.820 --> 03:43.820
+Well, that cold is the mystery.
+
+03:48.820 --> 03:52.320
+How did Scooby do with that?
+
+03:52.320 --> 03:55.320
+I guess that's another mystery.
+
+04:18.820 --> 04:23.820
+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+04:23.820 --> 04:26.820
+From Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, this is Gago on Biological.
+
+04:29.820 --> 04:32.820
+I'm going to do something a little bit sneaky tonight.
+
+04:35.820 --> 04:36.820
+Oops, that was a little quick.
+
+04:36.820 --> 04:44.820
+We are going to look at the spectrum of debate that was allowed in 2019
+
+04:45.820 --> 04:54.320
+by looking at a highly produced example of this business in 2019,
+
+04:54.320 --> 04:58.820
+and how this narrative was being laid down and prepared for us in our brain.
+
+05:01.820 --> 05:07.820
+I see you guys mentioning in the chat the CHD interview I did with Dr. Brian Hooker.
+
+05:07.820 --> 05:11.820
+It was a really good interview, but on the live recording or the live release,
+
+05:11.820 --> 05:14.820
+rather, the sound cutouts, they had to re-render the movie.
+
+05:14.820 --> 05:20.820
+The link is now there again, but for the time when it was supposed to be there,
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+05:20.820 --> 05:22.820
+it actually wasn't there.
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+05:23.820 --> 05:26.820
+And so that was a little bit disappointing at some moment.
+
+05:26.820 --> 05:31.820
+I was getting really excited about what I was saying, and then the sound went out.
+
+05:31.820 --> 05:36.820
+And so they cut the live stream, and then they re-edited the video, and now it's available.
+
+05:36.820 --> 05:40.820
+And I think the video or the interview is at least okay.
+
+05:42.820 --> 05:46.820
+And so I'm going to watch it at some point, I think, just to make sure that I didn't make any crazy mistakes
+
+05:46.820 --> 05:49.820
+other than the DC sign nonsense that I did there.
+
+05:50.820 --> 05:51.820
+Welcome to the show.
+
+05:51.820 --> 05:54.820
+This is Giga Home Biological Eye Resistance Low Noise Information Stream,
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+brought to you by a biologist.
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+The biologist is Jonathan Cooey.
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+I live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
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+I have three kids and a lovely wife.
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+And most things are pretty good here.
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+We are blessed to be, I'm blessed to be a staff scientist at Children's Health Defense.
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+But in this program, and on this program, I speak for myself and for my little LLC called Giga Home Biological Run Out of My Garage.
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+That being said, all the names that are scrolling above my head here in one way or another
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+are financially supporting me.
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+Some of them have been my financial supporters for several years and are responsible for that time between 2021 and 2022
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+when I had nobody else but them.
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+So, I don't know what to say other than thank all of you very, very much.
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+And thank you for giving me to the point where I can give out such a succinct message as intramuscular injection
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+is not a valid means of immunization.
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+It's really, really nice.
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+If you need something more specific for COVID, just say the transfection is not immunization.
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+Oh yeah, so I wanted to plug this.
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+I'm not sure why I should have probably put some text here.
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+I don't know what I was thinking I was going to accomplish with this slide here.
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+And then not to put my head here either.
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+This is a video, this is kind of neat.
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+It's like a little, this is a video clip or a screenshot from Mr. Eden,
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+AKA Mr. Sparkle on September 8th, 2023.
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+It's one of my most important streams in the last month.
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+And if you're new to the channel or you haven't watched a lot of the stuff that I've done in the last couple of weeks,
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+there's a lot of videos to choose from.
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+And I suggest you go to this one first.
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+Not only because of how succinct and on message Mike Eden is,
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+but how I think I tie it up real nice and make sure that it's understandable
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+and why it's so important to think about how Steve Kirsch and other people
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+through maybe no fault of their own, but maybe some fault of their own.
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+Wittingly or unwittingly have changed the way that we think over the last few years.
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+And specifically, some of these people really stepped in to make sure
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+that we changed the way we think about certain things.
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+And that being that there's a novel virus, we had to do something
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+and that mRNA might be handy, you know, if it was done right.
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+And gain of function is a real danger from which this virus may have originated.
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+And so this faith was instituted in people en masse through the TV and through social media.
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+And it was done by changing their mind about fundamentals in biology
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+that up until 2019 were pretty solid ground in terms of our understanding
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+and our admitted lack of understanding.
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+But instead they changed our way, the way we think about these things.
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+And then doctors were duped into, pressured into, or dumb enough to take part in,
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+protocol changes which ended up killing hundreds of thousands of people
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+and really just muddying the water in terms of where is this novel entity
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+for which we purport to be able to test with a PCR exam,
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+but also not if the symptoms are there and we can just make that assumption.
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+And then we used a bunch of things that would have otherwise been called poisons
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+had they been through the real normal testing procedure of drugs and therapeutics
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+like Remdesivir, for example.
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+And I believe, and I've been trying to explain this for many weeks now,
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+that I believe that it is very likely that an orchestrated effort
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+by government entities, intelligence agencies, I don't know who,
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+but a large network of individuals and people with like-minded interests
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+have carefully crafted this narrative of a pandemic
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+so that they can position themselves to be in positions of power in perpetuity
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+and these positions of power that they have assumed
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+are all based on the idea of this pandemic potential.
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+And so you have to believe in the pandemic potential
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+and more importantly you have to believe in the idea that there are bad guys
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+who flaunted Mother Nature's laws
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+and who flaunted Mother Nature's possibilities
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+and created a virus that otherwise wouldn't exist
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+and it got out and it injured millions of people.
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+And so you've got to believe that there's a mystery to solve,
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+that there are bad guys to identify and people to punish.
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+And there are bad guys to identify and people to punish,
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+but the question is what do you, what crime do you accuse them of committing?
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+And what they want you to do is accuse a very few people,
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+maybe two or three people of shuffling money around in backrooms
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+and of combining molecular parts of a virus in a laboratory
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+in an irresponsible way that led to the pandemic.
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+That's what they want you to believe happened
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+so that the real fake monster of the story is never unmasked
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+and that fake monster is an RNA viral pandemic.
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+That monster can't exist,
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+but they have created a scenario with real data,
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+real biology or what appears to be real biology
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+and real confusion
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+and effectively created a pandemic
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+not that dissimilar to what Dr. Giordano has described
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+many times in the past on my stream.
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+And so they lied to us over several decades
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+about the pandemic potential found in caves
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+and how it can be accessed in cell culture and aminal passage.
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+And more recently they've lied to us about how viral particles can be
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+stitched together or viral genomes can be stitched together
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+to also yield pandemic potential heretofore, undescribed.
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+And they want you to believe this pandemic potential
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+is almost never ending
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+so that they can invert your sovereignty over your body
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+and your children to something more of a social debt
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+that you owe to society
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+and therefore permissions that you have to earn.
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+And I believe that many of these people
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+wittingly or unwittingly have been co-opted
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+into perpetuating this myth of gain of function viruses
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+and co-opted into perpetuating this myth of a novel virus
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+which circulated the globe for three years
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+and is still ever evolving.
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+And whether these people really believe what they say or not
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+is kind of irrelevant
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+because they won't discuss aspects of the biology
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+which would otherwise probably set them free
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+from the certainty that they are under right now.
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+And they are under a spell of certainty
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+all of the people in the red triangle
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+because all of them are under the spell of certainty
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+that a novel virus most definitely was not present in 2018
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+became present in 2019
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+and then nearly destroyed the global economy in 2020.
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+They all believe that we had to do something.
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+They all believe that maybe even a large proportion
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+of the people that have taken the mRNA
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+gained some short-term benefit.
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+And for sure all the people on, sorry, on this side
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+of the red triangle, they all believe that a gain of function virus is possible
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+and it's dangerous and they're doing it.
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+It's just that the people down here
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+don't believe that this virus was one of those.
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+They definitely exist.
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+It's just that this wasn't a gain of function virus
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+whereas these people up here think it was a gain of function virus.
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+The kooky thing is is that the moment you question
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+the veracity of the story of an RNA virus being able to perpetuate itself
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+for three years through millions and millions and millions of serial cases.
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+You get put into this yellow zone over here
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+and you no longer get any attention on social media.
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+You get everything actually silenced
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+not canceled where everybody talks about you
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+and promotes you and shares your story on sub-stack
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+and sends people to Mexico to look for you
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+but canceled in the sense of
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+nobody hears from you anymore.
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+Nobody can see your account.
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+Your Twitch followers stagnate at 2,700 for like a year straight.
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+That's what we're talking about here when we say canceled.
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+Not canceled like it promoted
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+under two more platforms.
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+Not canceled like oh I get to whine about it forever to my millions of followers.
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+We're talking about actually erased
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+where people don't ever acknowledge that you exist
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+because that's where all the people in the yellow are here.
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+No one talks about Mikey.
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+No one talks about Wolfgang Woda.
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+No one talks about Nick Hudson
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+and very few people are willing to talk about Denny Ranglu.
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+You know even Sukhrin Bhakti
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+and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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+are virtually off limits for mentioning them
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+even though Bobby is largely on gain a function narrative
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+Sukhrin's not
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+but Sukhrin also is not doubting the spread of a virus
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+but no one's really shown him Jessica Hakka's data.
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+No one's shown Bobby
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+Jessica Hakka's data.
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+And so I think because I put Bobby on that line
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+because he at least had Denny Rancor on his podcast
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+and listened to Denny
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+and pushed back hard on Denny.
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+And so this spectrum of debate
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+which we have been captured by this mystery
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+the Scooby-Doo mystery that we've been fooled into
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+investing our energies into solving
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+this Scooby-Doo mystery
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+that we've invested ourselves in solving
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+and the purported people that are helping us solve it
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+are actually all people who are involved in making sure
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+that we think when we successfully solve this
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+that we understand
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+and the goal of Paul Catrell
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+and Robert Malone
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+who we saw did a stream together in 2021
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+Robert Malone doesn't waste his time with clowns
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+why in the world would he waste his time
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+with Dr. Paul Catrell
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+Paul Catrell must be legit
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+if Robert Malone took the time to stream with him
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+took the time to stream with him
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+and explain the dexamethasone would be a great way
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+to increase the number of deaths
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+because it just crushes
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+COVID patients
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+so a great way to make the numbers worse
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+and Remdesivir is not as effective as everybody thought it was
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+but that's a rabbit hole he didn't want to talk about
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+honest he said those things on a stream with Paul Catrell
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+basically saying that the
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+that the protocols were
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+being used to greatly inflate the numbers
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+and the deadliness of the virus
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+the severity of the disease
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+he said that with Paul Catrell
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+on a stream in August of 2021
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+as part of this crafting of this narrative
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+on all parts and all sides
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+mainstream media, Fox News
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+conservative media
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+everywhere
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+even on fringe
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+not so important podcasts like
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+Paul Catrells
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+you can't discount that
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+that's a very significant
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+data point if remember
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+Robert Malone's
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+cyberstalker list
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+included a guy by the name of
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+George Webb
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+and it included a link to George Webb's
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+60 minutes program
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+George Webb over here
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+considers Paul Catrell to be his
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+his best scientific advisor
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+Robert Malone was on a stream
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+with Paul Catrell in 2021
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+Robert Malone says that
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+George Webb is his worst
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+one of his worst cyberstalkers
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+it's a controlled
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+dance of performers
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+that all make noises in the dark
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+at different times and so we're all
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+looking over here and looking over there
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+and it turns out that they're all
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+on each other's webpage
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+they're all on each other's podcasts
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+they all have each other
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+in their phone book
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+they're all sharing my phone number
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+with
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+with Bobby
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+I don't know who's making all these
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+phone calls in the background
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+I got a phone call from Bobby
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+but apparently there were phone calls
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+from Malone to Rixie and Rixie to Malone
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+and Paul Catrell and Robert Malone
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+apparently have phone numbers
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+right otherwise how would they be on
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+a podcast in 2021
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+I mean
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+this is a whole network of people
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+who's all been pushing
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+this worst-case scenario
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+from the inside and the outside
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+I mean while Robert Malone
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+was trying to get EUAs for five
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+different drugs with
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+in contact with what did he say to Paul
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+he was in contact with Steve Kirsch
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+almost hourly
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+while they were doing that
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+in 2020
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+Paul was on the internet
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+pushing the worst-case scenario
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+talking to people from Taiwan
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+who were telling him that the only thing that was working in Taiwan
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+was Remdesivir
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+and then he talks to Robert Malone
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+and Robert Malone says that Remdesivir
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+isn't really working as well
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+as everybody thought and that doesn't strike
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+Paul Catrell as odd
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+because he heard earlier
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+than anyone else
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+there were millions of people who were going to die
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+from some CDC leak
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+and then he also got a phone call from Taiwan
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+from some lady
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+saying that the only thing that was working in Hong Kong
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+was Remdesivir
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+it's a great big show
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+ladies and gentlemen
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+and the show started in 2019
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+the show started
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+in 2019
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+the show started in 2019
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+check this out
+
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+now I can't show you the very very start
+
+21:41.820 --> 21:43.820
+because it's got this red N
+
+21:43.820 --> 21:47.820
+and then it makes this sound good
+
+21:47.820 --> 21:49.820
+okay so you just imagine
+
+21:49.820 --> 21:51.820
+the red N
+
+21:51.820 --> 21:53.820
+and then something something
+
+21:53.820 --> 21:55.820
+and then here we'll start it
+
+21:57.820 --> 21:59.820
+let's imagine for a second
+
+21:59.820 --> 22:01.820
+all the ways the world could end
+
+22:01.820 --> 22:03.820
+it could be something
+
+22:03.820 --> 22:05.820
+from above
+
+22:05.820 --> 22:07.820
+or something from below
+
+22:09.820 --> 22:11.820
+or it could be something we did
+
+22:11.820 --> 22:13.820
+to ourselves
+
+22:13.820 --> 22:15.820
+but there's one thing that consistently ranks
+
+22:15.820 --> 22:17.820
+as one of the most likely things
+
+22:17.820 --> 22:19.820
+to end the world
+
+22:19.820 --> 22:21.820
+well if you think of anything that could come along
+
+22:21.820 --> 22:23.820
+that would kill millions of people
+
+22:23.820 --> 22:25.820
+the pandemic is our greatest risk
+
+22:25.820 --> 22:27.820
+a pandemic is a disease
+
+22:27.820 --> 22:29.820
+our control
+
+22:29.820 --> 22:31.820
+sweeping across the world
+
+22:31.820 --> 22:33.820
+killing millions and changing civilizations
+
+22:33.820 --> 22:35.820
+we know this because we've seen it before
+
+22:35.820 --> 22:37.820
+a few times
+
+22:37.820 --> 22:39.820
+in the sixth century
+
+22:39.820 --> 22:41.820
+a pandemic killed half the world's population
+
+22:41.820 --> 22:43.820
+in the 14th another wiped out
+
+22:43.820 --> 22:45.820
+half of Europe
+
+22:45.820 --> 22:47.820
+and in the 20th a pandemic killed
+
+22:47.820 --> 22:49.820
+almost 5% of the world's population
+
+22:49.820 --> 22:51.820
+in just two years
+
+22:51.820 --> 22:53.820
+but that was a hundred years ago
+
+22:53.820 --> 22:55.820
+we've learned from these past
+
+22:55.820 --> 22:57.820
+pandemics and made incredible advances
+
+22:57.820 --> 22:59.820
+improved response
+
+22:59.820 --> 23:01.820
+improved training
+
+23:01.820 --> 23:03.820
+improved workforce
+
+23:03.820 --> 23:05.820
+we have improved surveillance systems
+
+23:05.820 --> 23:07.820
+improved communications
+
+23:07.820 --> 23:09.820
+we have organizations like the world health organization
+
+23:09.820 --> 23:11.820
+CDC we have improved diagnostics
+
+23:11.820 --> 23:13.820
+improved drugs
+
+23:13.820 --> 23:15.820
+therapeutics vaccines
+
+23:15.820 --> 23:17.820
+and yet the risk of it happening again
+
+23:17.820 --> 23:19.820
+has never been higher
+
+23:19.820 --> 23:21.820
+we've done the math on this
+
+23:21.820 --> 23:23.820
+we estimate there about five new emerging diseases
+
+23:23.820 --> 23:25.820
+happen somewhere on the planet every year
+
+23:25.820 --> 23:27.820
+and that rate is accelerated so it is inevitable
+
+23:27.820 --> 23:29.820
+that they will become pandemics
+
+23:29.820 --> 23:31.820
+mother nature is the ultimate bioterrorist
+
+23:31.820 --> 23:33.820
+nice
+
+23:33.820 --> 23:35.820
+mistakes couldn't be higher
+
+23:35.820 --> 23:37.820
+this simulation estimates that a pandemic today
+
+23:37.820 --> 23:39.820
+could kill 33 million people
+
+23:39.820 --> 23:41.820
+one billion
+
+23:41.820 --> 23:43.820
+months in terms of
+
+23:43.820 --> 23:45.820
+one billion a pandemic
+
+23:45.820 --> 23:47.820
+would rival even the gigantic wars of the past
+
+23:47.820 --> 23:49.820
+there we go
+
+23:49.820 --> 23:51.820
+the economy will shut down
+
+23:51.820 --> 23:53.820
+the cost to humanity will be unbelievable
+
+23:53.820 --> 23:55.820
+unbelievable when is this
+
+23:55.820 --> 23:57.820
+this is in 2019
+
+23:57.820 --> 23:59.820
+ladies and gentlemen
+
+23:59.820 --> 24:01.820
+were they preparing anybody for anything
+
+24:01.820 --> 24:03.820
+do you think
+
+24:03.820 --> 24:05.820
+I mean if you see it now
+
+24:05.820 --> 24:07.820
+and you see it from 2023
+
+24:07.820 --> 24:09.820
+it's called explained
+
+24:09.820 --> 24:11.820
+and it's the next pandemic
+
+24:11.820 --> 24:13.820
+I mean are you shitting me
+
+24:13.820 --> 24:17.820
+country will be immune from the problem
+
+24:17.820 --> 24:19.820
+this will create
+
+24:19.820 --> 24:21.820
+the question is not is the next pandemic coming
+
+24:21.820 --> 24:23.820
+there are only three things
+
+24:23.820 --> 24:25.820
+that are inevitable in this world
+
+24:25.820 --> 24:27.820
+death taxes and flu pandemics
+
+24:27.820 --> 24:29.820
+or when is the next pandemic coming
+
+24:29.820 --> 24:31.820
+we estimate there around one and a half million
+
+24:31.820 --> 24:33.820
+viruses in wildlife
+
+24:33.820 --> 24:35.820
+that we don't yet know that
+
+24:35.820 --> 24:37.820
+any one of those could be spilling over into
+
+24:37.820 --> 24:39.820
+human population right now
+
+24:39.820 --> 24:41.820
+the question is
+
+24:41.820 --> 24:43.820
+will we be ready for it
+
+24:43.820 --> 24:45.820
+influenza pandemics must be taken seriously
+
+24:45.820 --> 24:47.820
+the world is fighting the worst Ebola epidemic
+
+24:47.820 --> 24:49.820
+in history
+
+24:49.820 --> 24:51.820
+mistakes could be any higher bars
+
+24:51.820 --> 24:53.820
+can be just as destructive as a bomb
+
+24:53.820 --> 24:55.820
+or a mr. Panogenic organism
+
+24:55.820 --> 24:57.820
+Vox I mean Vox
+
+24:57.820 --> 24:59.820
+you know already what this is right
+
+24:59.820 --> 25:01.820
+it's propaganda but still you got to see it
+
+25:01.820 --> 25:03.820
+because that's what they did to us
+
+25:03.820 --> 25:05.820
+everybody that saw this was
+
+25:05.820 --> 25:07.820
+was primed
+
+25:07.820 --> 25:09.820
+maybe Brett Weinstein saw this
+
+25:09.820 --> 25:11.820
+and that's the reason why he got a bandana
+
+25:11.820 --> 25:13.820
+right away and locked down for nine months
+
+25:13.820 --> 25:15.820
+no what the future is going to hold
+
+25:15.820 --> 25:19.820
+pandemics begin in a world
+
+25:19.820 --> 25:21.820
+invisible to the naked eye
+
+25:21.820 --> 25:23.820
+microbes were likely the first
+
+25:23.820 --> 25:25.820
+living things on earth
+
+25:25.820 --> 25:27.820
+many can't replicate on their own
+
+25:27.820 --> 25:29.820
+so they hijack other living cells
+
+25:29.820 --> 25:31.820
+and today they're all around us
+
+25:31.820 --> 25:33.820
+and on us
+
+25:33.820 --> 25:35.820
+and in us
+
+25:35.820 --> 25:37.820
+many arrive in peace but others
+
+25:37.820 --> 25:39.820
+damage or kill our bodies cells
+
+25:39.820 --> 25:43.820
+fever coughing sneezing diarrhea
+
+25:43.820 --> 25:45.820
+that's our body fighting back
+
+25:45.820 --> 25:47.820
+but some are so strong
+
+25:47.820 --> 25:49.820
+they can overwhelm our immune system
+
+25:49.820 --> 25:51.820
+and kill us
+
+25:51.820 --> 25:53.820
+pandemics are mainly caused by
+
+25:53.820 --> 25:55.820
+two types of microbes
+
+25:55.820 --> 25:57.820
+bacteria and viruses
+
+25:57.820 --> 25:59.820
+the interesting thing about viruses is they are
+
+25:59.820 --> 26:01.820
+supremely adapted
+
+26:01.820 --> 26:03.820
+to jump from one species to another
+
+26:03.820 --> 26:05.820
+they're the most likely microbes
+
+26:05.820 --> 26:07.820
+to become the next pandemic
+
+26:07.820 --> 26:09.820
+as you can probably guess viruses
+
+26:09.820 --> 26:11.820
+that cause bird flu come from birds
+
+26:11.820 --> 26:13.820
+swine flu comes from pigs
+
+26:13.820 --> 26:15.820
+HIV came from chimpanzees
+
+26:15.820 --> 26:17.820
+Ebola likely comes from bats
+
+26:17.820 --> 26:21.820
+and several diseases come from mosquitoes
+
+26:21.820 --> 26:23.820
+when these spill over to humans
+
+26:23.820 --> 26:25.820
+the new virus is called a zoonotic virus
+
+26:25.820 --> 26:27.820
+and they're extremely dangerous
+
+26:27.820 --> 26:31.820
+these are viruses which mutate rapidly
+
+26:31.820 --> 26:33.820
+and therefore change the surface
+
+26:33.820 --> 26:35.820
+and evade immune responses quickly
+
+26:35.820 --> 26:37.820
+they can transform into a new virus
+
+26:37.820 --> 26:39.820
+once they get into the human population
+
+26:39.820 --> 26:41.820
+now those don't happen
+
+26:41.820 --> 26:43.820
+all the time they're quite rare events
+
+26:43.820 --> 26:45.820
+but when they do the effects
+
+26:45.820 --> 26:47.820
+can be devastating
+
+26:47.820 --> 26:49.820
+which brings us to a farm in Kansas
+
+26:49.820 --> 26:51.820
+a century ago
+
+26:51.820 --> 26:53.820
+experts aren't certain but they believe
+
+26:53.820 --> 26:55.820
+the 1918 flu pandemic could have started
+
+26:55.820 --> 26:57.820
+when an infected bird and an infected human
+
+26:57.820 --> 26:59.820
+met the same pig
+
+26:59.820 --> 27:01.820
+the bird had bird flu
+
+27:01.820 --> 27:03.820
+a type of influenza virus that had been
+
+27:03.820 --> 27:05.820
+infecting chickens, geese and ducks
+
+27:05.820 --> 27:07.820
+for at least a hundred years
+
+27:07.820 --> 27:09.820
+while the person had a different influenza strain
+
+27:09.820 --> 27:11.820
+the seasonal flu that had made
+
+27:11.820 --> 27:13.820
+humans feel stuffed up and feverish
+
+27:13.820 --> 27:15.820
+for centuries
+
+27:15.820 --> 27:17.820
+the two viruses couldn't infect each other's species
+
+27:17.820 --> 27:19.820
+but they could both infect pigs
+
+27:19.820 --> 27:21.820
+and in one pig cell
+
+27:21.820 --> 27:23.820
+those two viruses combined
+
+27:23.820 --> 27:25.820
+creating a new zoonotic virus
+
+27:25.820 --> 27:27.820
+H1N1
+
+27:27.820 --> 27:29.820
+these parts from the human virus
+
+27:29.820 --> 27:31.820
+gave it the ability to infect humans
+
+27:31.820 --> 27:33.820
+but these parts from the bird virus
+
+27:33.820 --> 27:35.820
+prevented immune systems from
+
+27:35.820 --> 27:37.820
+effectively fighting back
+
+27:37.820 --> 27:39.820
+a deadly combination
+
+27:39.820 --> 27:41.820
+it killed somewhere between
+
+27:41.820 --> 27:43.820
+triangles and circles
+
+27:43.820 --> 27:45.820
+is a deadly combination
+
+27:45.820 --> 27:47.820
+you got to watch out
+
+27:47.820 --> 27:49.820
+but it is true that flu can
+
+27:49.820 --> 27:51.820
+reassort like that
+
+27:51.820 --> 27:53.820
+it's a different sort of process
+
+27:53.820 --> 27:55.820
+according to the mythology
+
+27:55.820 --> 27:57.820
+for coronaviruses
+
+27:57.820 --> 27:59.820
+because flu viruses have separate
+
+27:59.820 --> 28:01.820
+RNA molecules
+
+28:01.820 --> 28:03.820
+that are independently
+
+28:03.820 --> 28:05.820
+sorted into the
+
+28:05.820 --> 28:07.820
+particle
+
+28:07.820 --> 28:09.820
+and so when you
+
+28:09.820 --> 28:11.820
+when you have more than one
+
+28:11.820 --> 28:13.820
+flu type inside of your body at once
+
+28:13.820 --> 28:15.820
+you can have a reassortment of
+
+28:15.820 --> 28:17.820
+those genes in a way that
+
+28:17.820 --> 28:19.820
+is apparently
+
+28:19.820 --> 28:21.820
+apparently more difficult
+
+28:21.820 --> 28:23.820
+in coronavirus because of its
+
+28:23.820 --> 28:25.820
+single continuous RNA genome
+
+28:25.820 --> 28:29.820
+now you can find
+
+28:29.820 --> 28:31.820
+lectures by
+
+28:31.820 --> 28:33.820
+Denison and lectures by Ralph
+
+28:33.820 --> 28:35.820
+Berwick where they're talking about
+
+28:35.820 --> 28:37.820
+recombination in coronaviruses
+
+28:37.820 --> 28:39.820
+and it is due to
+
+28:39.820 --> 28:41.820
+the fact that the
+
+28:41.820 --> 28:43.820
+the RNA dependent RNA
+
+28:43.820 --> 28:45.820
+polymerase will hop
+
+28:45.820 --> 28:47.820
+from RNA strand to RNA strand
+
+28:47.820 --> 28:49.820
+and although you're imagining
+
+28:49.820 --> 28:51.820
+that okay well when does that happen
+
+28:51.820 --> 28:55.820
+let your imagination run the camera
+
+28:55.820 --> 28:59.820
+forward so the virus copies
+
+28:59.820 --> 29:01.820
+its own RNA genome
+
+29:01.820 --> 29:03.820
+and now it has two copies
+
+29:03.820 --> 29:05.820
+of that genome and one of those
+
+29:05.820 --> 29:07.820
+genomes is about three
+
+29:07.820 --> 29:09.820
+nucleotides different than the
+
+29:09.820 --> 29:11.820
+original genome
+
+29:11.820 --> 29:13.820
+and now the RNA dependent RNA
+
+29:13.820 --> 29:15.820
+polymerase has got to float around
+
+29:15.820 --> 29:17.820
+and find the front end of another
+
+29:17.820 --> 29:19.820
+RNA and it has a choice of two of
+
+29:19.820 --> 29:21.820
+them right now if you think of a
+
+29:21.820 --> 29:23.820
+simple cartoon
+
+29:23.820 --> 29:25.820
+and as that goes on and on and on
+
+29:25.820 --> 29:27.820
+there are more and more viral
+
+29:27.820 --> 29:29.820
+RNAs in theory
+
+29:29.820 --> 29:31.820
+that are available for this
+
+29:31.820 --> 29:33.820
+RNA dependent RNA polymerase which is
+
+29:33.820 --> 29:35.820
+in limited quantity
+
+29:35.820 --> 29:37.820
+in order for it to make another copy
+
+29:37.820 --> 29:39.820
+and so it's not clear
+
+29:39.820 --> 29:41.820
+how all that works because they
+
+29:41.820 --> 29:43.820
+need to be packaged and gone you know
+
+29:43.820 --> 29:45.820
+they need to go into other viral
+
+29:45.820 --> 29:47.820
+particles but they've already
+
+29:47.820 --> 29:49.820
+documented it in experiments where
+
+29:49.820 --> 29:51.820
+these various genomic RNAs
+
+29:51.820 --> 29:53.820
+compete for RNA dependent
+
+29:53.820 --> 29:55.820
+RNA polymerase time
+
+29:55.820 --> 29:57.820
+so that being said when the RNA
+
+29:57.820 --> 29:59.820
+dependent RNA polymerase
+
+29:59.820 --> 30:01.820
+is going along and traveling
+
+30:01.820 --> 30:03.820
+it can
+
+30:03.820 --> 30:05.820
+jump off of one template
+
+30:05.820 --> 30:07.820
+and leap over
+
+30:07.820 --> 30:09.820
+on to another
+
+30:09.820 --> 30:11.820
+because according to
+
+30:11.820 --> 30:13.820
+pericandenosine up to 25
+
+30:13.820 --> 30:15.820
+percent of the genomes
+
+30:15.820 --> 30:17.820
+in any given coronavirus
+
+30:17.820 --> 30:19.820
+infection are actually recombinant
+
+30:19.820 --> 30:21.820
+genomes that recombine between
+
+30:21.820 --> 30:23.820
+a co-infection
+
+30:23.820 --> 30:27.820
+and so the
+
+30:27.820 --> 30:29.820
+co-infection of a coronavirus
+
+30:29.820 --> 30:31.820
+is likely to generate recombinant
+
+30:31.820 --> 30:33.820
+coronavirus genomes
+
+30:33.820 --> 30:35.820
+but flu has this extra
+
+30:35.820 --> 30:37.820
+added ability because of its
+
+30:37.820 --> 30:39.820
+compartmentalized or I guess you'd
+
+30:39.820 --> 30:41.820
+call it fragmented genome
+
+30:41.820 --> 30:43.820
+and so those fragments can
+
+30:43.820 --> 30:45.820
+reassort more readily. 50 and 100 million
+
+30:45.820 --> 30:47.820
+people around the world
+
+30:47.820 --> 30:49.820
+it was unlike anything else
+
+30:49.820 --> 30:51.820
+in history. You can
+
+30:51.820 --> 30:53.820
+think of a disease on two scales
+
+30:53.820 --> 30:55.820
+how contagious it is and how
+
+30:55.820 --> 30:57.820
+deadly it is. Here is the
+
+30:57.820 --> 30:59.820
+seasonal human flu while this
+
+30:59.820 --> 31:01.820
+is the bird flu and this
+
+31:01.820 --> 31:03.820
+is the 1918 combination.
+
+31:03.820 --> 31:05.820
+It was so contagious because
+
+31:05.820 --> 31:07.820
+it was airborne meaning the virus
+
+31:07.820 --> 31:09.820
+could hang in the air infecting
+
+31:09.820 --> 31:11.820
+any this is the bird flu.
+
+31:11.820 --> 31:13.820
+Now notice that this is not a
+
+31:13.820 --> 31:15.820
+scientific graph that says
+
+31:15.820 --> 31:17.820
+extremely deadly deadly quite
+
+31:17.820 --> 31:19.820
+deadly and deadly less deadly
+
+31:19.820 --> 31:21.820
+and then here it says not
+
+31:21.820 --> 31:23.820
+contagious contagious very
+
+31:23.820 --> 31:25.820
+and extremely contagious
+
+31:25.820 --> 31:27.820
+so it's not really clear
+
+31:27.820 --> 31:29.820
+why this red space is as big
+
+31:29.820 --> 31:31.820
+and this red space is less big
+
+31:31.820 --> 31:33.820
+and this base is the smallest
+
+31:33.820 --> 31:35.820
+but apparently most of the
+
+31:35.820 --> 31:37.820
+diseases are out here
+
+31:37.820 --> 31:39.820
+and the extremely deadly
+
+31:39.820 --> 31:41.820
+and extremely contagious range
+
+31:41.820 --> 31:43.820
+and very few
+
+31:43.820 --> 31:45.820
+very few diseases are down here
+
+31:45.820 --> 31:47.820
+and the contagious and
+
+31:47.820 --> 31:49.820
+and safe they're all quite
+
+31:49.820 --> 31:51.820
+deadly already and the
+
+31:51.820 --> 31:53.820
+human flu is on the border of
+
+31:53.820 --> 31:55.820
+not and quite deadly
+
+31:55.820 --> 31:57.820
+and it's not very contagious whereas
+
+31:57.820 --> 31:59.820
+the bird flu is only
+
+31:59.820 --> 32:01.820
+slightly more contagious but it's
+
+32:01.820 --> 32:03.820
+extremely deadly. And this
+
+32:03.820 --> 32:05.820
+is the 1918 combination
+
+32:05.820 --> 32:07.820
+it was so contagious because it
+
+32:07.820 --> 32:09.820
+was airborne meaning the virus
+
+32:09.820 --> 32:11.820
+could hang in the air infecting
+
+32:11.820 --> 32:13.820
+anyone who inhaled it and in
+
+32:13.820 --> 32:15.820
+1918 it infected one in every
+
+32:15.820 --> 32:17.820
+people on earth
+
+32:17.820 --> 32:19.820
+then it killed almost five percent
+
+32:19.820 --> 32:21.820
+of the world's population.
+
+32:21.820 --> 32:23.820
+I mean those are some big
+
+32:23.820 --> 32:25.820
+ass numbers that's some really
+
+32:25.820 --> 32:27.820
+big numbers and it hangs in the
+
+32:27.820 --> 32:29.820
+air and could infect anyone
+
+32:29.820 --> 32:31.820
+that came in contact with
+
+32:31.820 --> 32:33.820
+that's a highly detailed
+
+32:33.820 --> 32:35.820
+description of the contagious
+
+32:35.820 --> 32:37.820
+of something from a hundred years
+
+32:37.820 --> 32:39.820
+ago. Final ingredient was
+
+32:39.820 --> 32:41.820
+human technology. Oh here we go.
+
+32:41.820 --> 32:43.820
+This flu emerged in the middle
+
+32:43.820 --> 32:45.820
+we were sending people across from
+
+32:45.820 --> 32:47.820
+the US into Europe for war and
+
+32:47.820 --> 32:49.820
+then we're bringing them back so
+
+32:49.820 --> 32:51.820
+this virus exploited those
+
+32:51.820 --> 32:53.820
+travel patterns and they're not
+
+32:53.820 --> 32:55.820
+mentioning the fact that these
+
+32:55.820 --> 32:57.820
+boats also had animals on them.
+
+32:57.820 --> 32:59.820
+I think Mark has told us many
+
+32:59.820 --> 33:01.820
+times that that's a huge
+
+33:01.820 --> 33:03.820
+issue with regard to
+
+33:03.820 --> 33:05.820
+obviously the crowded boats to
+
+33:05.820 --> 33:07.820
+spread around the world very
+
+33:07.820 --> 33:09.820
+quickly and very effectively.
+
+33:09.820 --> 33:11.820
+In fact in every past
+
+33:11.820 --> 33:13.820
+human technology is responsible
+
+33:13.820 --> 33:15.820
+for taking diseases around the
+
+33:15.820 --> 33:17.820
+world.
+
+33:17.820 --> 33:19.820
+The black death arrived in
+
+33:19.820 --> 33:21.820
+Europe on ships in the 14th
+
+33:21.820 --> 33:23.820
+century. It was two distinct
+
+33:23.820 --> 33:25.820
+diseases bubonic plague which
+
+33:25.820 --> 33:27.820
+killed as many as 60 percent of
+
+33:27.820 --> 33:29.820
+the people who got it and
+
+33:29.820 --> 33:31.820
+pneumonic plague which killed
+
+33:31.820 --> 33:33.820
+almost everyone who got it.
+
+33:33.820 --> 33:35.820
+Then there was smallpox.
+
+33:35.820 --> 33:37.820
+It was less deadly than the
+
+33:37.820 --> 33:39.820
+black death killing 30 percent
+
+33:39.820 --> 33:41.820
+of the people who got it but it
+
+33:41.820 --> 33:43.820
+was more contagious.
+
+33:43.820 --> 33:45.820
+Humans spread it around the world.
+
+33:45.820 --> 33:47.820
+In the 20th century alone
+
+33:47.820 --> 33:49.820
+it killed around 400 million
+
+33:49.820 --> 33:51.820
+people. These other diseases
+
+33:51.820 --> 33:53.820
+have also become pandemics.
+
+33:53.820 --> 33:55.820
+But eventually we developed
+
+33:55.820 --> 33:57.820
+technology that could defend
+
+33:57.820 --> 33:59.820
+us.
+
+33:59.820 --> 34:01.820
+The practice of isolating
+
+34:01.820 --> 34:03.820
+travelers for a time to see
+
+34:03.820 --> 34:05.820
+if they were infected, now known as
+
+34:05.820 --> 34:07.820
+quarantine, was first developed
+
+34:07.820 --> 34:09.820
+during the black death.
+
+34:09.820 --> 34:11.820
+Then we invented microscopes
+
+34:11.820 --> 34:13.820
+allowing us to see the enemy for
+
+34:13.820 --> 34:15.820
+the first time.
+
+34:15.820 --> 34:17.820
+Next we developed antibiotics.
+
+34:17.820 --> 34:19.820
+These made these diseases
+
+34:19.820 --> 34:21.820
+spread by bacteria far less
+
+34:21.820 --> 34:23.820
+deadly. And smallpox led to the
+
+34:23.820 --> 34:25.820
+development of the first ever
+
+34:25.820 --> 34:27.820
+vaccine which defends us
+
+34:27.820 --> 34:29.820
+against some viruses.
+
+34:29.820 --> 34:31.820
+The way a vaccine works is we
+
+34:31.820 --> 34:33.820
+get injected with proteins from
+
+34:33.820 --> 34:35.820
+the virus and we create our
+
+34:35.820 --> 34:37.820
+antibodies. These are little
+
+34:37.820 --> 34:39.820
+molecules attached to those
+
+34:39.820 --> 34:41.820
+proteins and neutralize the
+
+34:41.820 --> 34:43.820
+virus and allow it to be swept
+
+34:43.820 --> 34:45.820
+out of the body. So when we then
+
+34:45.820 --> 34:47.820
+get infected by a real virus we
+
+34:47.820 --> 34:49.820
+can rapidly create an immune
+
+34:49.820 --> 34:51.820
+response, send out these antibodies
+
+34:51.820 --> 34:53.820
+and get rid of the virus.
+
+34:53.820 --> 34:55.820
+If enough people in a population
+
+34:55.820 --> 34:57.820
+get vaccinated it's almost
+
+34:57.820 --> 34:59.820
+impossible for the disease to
+
+34:59.820 --> 35:01.820
+spread. So smallpox was
+
+35:01.820 --> 35:03.820
+declared eradicated in 1980.
+
+35:03.820 --> 35:05.820
+This is why studies show that
+
+35:05.820 --> 35:07.820
+fewer people are contracting
+
+35:07.820 --> 35:09.820
+infectious diseases today.
+
+35:09.820 --> 35:11.820
+But at the same time, the number
+
+35:11.820 --> 35:13.820
+of outbreaks is increasing
+
+35:13.820 --> 35:15.820
+and that is largely because of
+
+35:15.820 --> 35:17.820
+emerging zoonotic viruses.
+
+35:17.820 --> 35:19.820
+Out of an estimated 1.6 million
+
+35:19.820 --> 35:21.820
+unknowns of the virus,
+
+35:21.820 --> 35:23.820
+we can see that the virus is
+
+35:23.820 --> 35:25.820
+getting infected.
+
+35:25.820 --> 35:27.820
+We can see that the virus is
+
+35:27.820 --> 35:29.820
+getting infected.
+
+35:29.820 --> 35:31.820
+We can see that the virus is
+
+35:31.820 --> 35:33.820
+getting infected.
+
+35:33.820 --> 35:35.820
+We can see that the virus is
+
+35:35.820 --> 35:37.820
+getting infected.
+
+35:37.820 --> 35:39.820
+1.6 million unknown viruses
+
+35:39.820 --> 35:41.820
+in wildlife.
+
+35:41.820 --> 35:43.820
+We currently know of about
+
+35:43.820 --> 35:45.820
+3,000.
+
+35:45.820 --> 35:47.820
+So it's really less than 0.1%.
+
+35:47.820 --> 35:49.820
+That means the next pandemic
+
+35:49.820 --> 35:51.820
+could be a virus that we're not
+
+35:51.820 --> 35:53.820
+prepared for.
+
+35:53.820 --> 35:55.820
+So that's also the sales
+
+35:55.820 --> 35:57.820
+pitch of meadow biota that
+
+35:57.820 --> 35:59.820
+there are billions of viruses
+
+35:59.820 --> 36:01.820
+of course, Peter Desak,
+
+36:01.820 --> 36:03.820
+the guy who was set up to
+
+36:03.820 --> 36:05.820
+be one of these Scooby-Doo villains.
+
+36:05.820 --> 36:07.820
+And he was set up
+
+36:07.820 --> 36:09.820
+by this movie and many movies
+
+36:09.820 --> 36:11.820
+like it and interestingly
+
+36:11.820 --> 36:13.820
+by 60 minutes appearances
+
+36:13.820 --> 36:15.820
+in the years
+
+36:15.820 --> 36:17.820
+between the first stars and this
+
+36:17.820 --> 36:19.820
+outbreak.
+
+36:19.820 --> 36:21.820
+He has been on 60 minutes
+
+36:21.820 --> 36:23.820
+more than once.
+
+36:23.820 --> 36:27.820
+And so try to imagine a scenario
+
+36:27.820 --> 36:29.820
+where a
+
+36:29.820 --> 36:31.820
+multinational
+
+36:31.820 --> 36:33.820
+group of people
+
+36:33.820 --> 36:35.820
+trying to take control
+
+36:35.820 --> 36:37.820
+of governments all around the world
+
+36:37.820 --> 36:39.820
+has seeded a narrative
+
+36:39.820 --> 36:43.820
+of pandemic potential.
+
+36:43.820 --> 36:45.820
+And seeded a narrative
+
+36:45.820 --> 36:47.820
+really like in the deepest way
+
+36:47.820 --> 36:49.820
+you can see it by seeding it
+
+36:49.820 --> 36:51.820
+right into academic science
+
+36:51.820 --> 36:55.820
+right into the primary literature.
+
+36:55.820 --> 36:57.820
+Right into the grant proposals
+
+36:57.820 --> 36:59.820
+of DARPA and the
+
+36:59.820 --> 37:01.820
+DOD and the NIH and the
+
+37:01.820 --> 37:03.820
+NIAID and the USAID
+
+37:03.820 --> 37:05.820
+that coronaviruses
+
+37:05.820 --> 37:07.820
+have pandemic potential.
+
+37:07.820 --> 37:09.820
+It's worth investigating.
+
+37:09.820 --> 37:11.820
+It gets results.
+
+37:11.820 --> 37:13.820
+It gets grants funded.
+
+37:13.820 --> 37:15.820
+It gets people on 60 minutes.
+
+37:15.820 --> 37:17.820
+And so there's nothing left to do
+
+37:17.820 --> 37:19.820
+but pull the trigger
+
+37:19.820 --> 37:21.820
+because everybody is
+
+37:21.820 --> 37:23.820
+this is the highest produced
+
+37:23.820 --> 37:25.820
+I mean come on.
+
+37:25.820 --> 37:27.820
+You could tell a story
+
+37:27.820 --> 37:29.820
+about anything
+
+37:29.820 --> 37:31.820
+with this degree
+
+37:31.820 --> 37:33.820
+of media production
+
+37:33.820 --> 37:35.820
+and people would buy into it.
+
+37:35.820 --> 37:37.820
+Especially over many many years.
+
+37:37.820 --> 37:39.820
+Especially if you told the same
+
+37:39.820 --> 37:41.820
+story and implanted it in several
+
+37:41.820 --> 37:43.820
+Hollywood movies and TV shows.
+
+37:49.820 --> 37:51.820
+We know some pretty
+
+37:51.820 --> 37:53.820
+wonderful ones but we expect
+
+37:53.820 --> 37:55.820
+that there are others out there
+
+37:55.820 --> 37:57.820
+that are more lethal that are
+
+37:57.820 --> 37:59.820
+better at being transmitted
+
+37:59.820 --> 38:01.820
+where we've got no drugs and no
+
+38:01.820 --> 38:03.820
+vaccines. They're the big risk.
+
+38:03.820 --> 38:05.820
+This is called disease X
+
+38:05.820 --> 38:07.820
+and we know we're unprepared
+
+38:07.820 --> 38:09.820
+because we've seen them
+
+38:09.820 --> 38:11.820
+before.
+
+38:11.820 --> 38:13.820
+West market.
+
+38:13.820 --> 38:15.820
+West market in Leang,
+
+38:15.820 --> 38:17.820
+China.
+
+38:17.820 --> 38:19.820
+Unlike markets in much of the
+
+38:19.820 --> 38:21.820
+world, they're already dead
+
+38:21.820 --> 38:23.820
+when they arrive.
+
+38:23.820 --> 38:25.820
+This wet market sells meat
+
+38:25.820 --> 38:27.820
+that's very fresh.
+
+38:27.820 --> 38:29.820
+It's killed on site.
+
+38:29.820 --> 38:31.820
+That's what makes it a
+
+38:31.820 --> 38:33.820
+disease X factory.
+
+38:33.820 --> 38:35.820
+Many different animal species
+
+38:35.820 --> 38:37.820
+are stacked on top of each other.
+
+38:37.820 --> 38:39.820
+Their blood and meat mixed
+
+38:39.820 --> 38:41.820
+before being passed from human
+
+38:41.820 --> 38:43.820
+to human.
+
+38:43.820 --> 38:45.820
+All the while their viruses are
+
+38:45.820 --> 38:47.820
+mixing and mutating, increasing
+
+38:47.820 --> 38:49.820
+from 2002.
+
+38:49.820 --> 38:51.820
+Back then, some wet markets in
+
+38:51.820 --> 38:53.820
+China sold wild animals like
+
+38:53.820 --> 38:55.820
+snakes, civet cats, and bats.
+
+38:55.820 --> 38:57.820
+And demand for them was high.
+
+38:57.820 --> 38:59.820
+On November 16th, a man in
+
+38:59.820 --> 39:01.820
+Foshan, China, got sick after
+
+39:01.820 --> 39:03.820
+preparing a meal of chicken,
+
+39:03.820 --> 39:05.820
+cat, and snake.
+
+39:05.820 --> 39:07.820
+He had the symptoms of pneumonia,
+
+39:07.820 --> 39:09.820
+fever, cough, and trouble breathing.
+
+39:09.820 --> 39:11.820
+When treatments for pneumonia
+
+39:11.820 --> 39:13.820
+didn't work, Chinese officials
+
+39:13.820 --> 39:15.820
+reported it simply as
+
+39:15.820 --> 39:17.820
+well.
+
+39:17.820 --> 39:19.820
+Michael Podinger was involved in
+
+39:19.820 --> 39:21.820
+the early spreading of this
+
+39:21.820 --> 39:23.820
+story, and Michael Podinger
+
+39:23.820 --> 39:25.820
+is also involved in this pandemic
+
+39:25.820 --> 39:27.820
+and in several other things in
+
+39:27.820 --> 39:29.820
+between.
+
+39:29.820 --> 39:31.820
+Mark is much better at
+
+39:31.820 --> 39:33.820
+explaining this first star
+
+39:33.820 --> 39:35.820
+story, and the people involved
+
+39:35.820 --> 39:37.820
+in it than I am.
+
+39:37.820 --> 39:39.820
+But then it started spreading,
+
+39:39.820 --> 39:41.820
+and people started dying.
+
+39:41.820 --> 39:43.820
+There were reports of
+
+39:43.820 --> 39:45.820
+hospitals in China.
+
+39:45.820 --> 39:47.820
+But we're used to that.
+
+39:47.820 --> 39:49.820
+There were strains of
+
+39:49.820 --> 39:51.820
+influenza virus that caused
+
+39:51.820 --> 39:53.820
+flu in Asia many times over.
+
+39:53.820 --> 39:55.820
+And we always noted them, and
+
+39:55.820 --> 39:57.820
+there was always concern, but
+
+39:57.820 --> 39:59.820
+they were not particularly
+
+39:59.820 --> 40:01.820
+scary to us.
+
+40:01.820 --> 40:03.820
+But people like the CDC and the
+
+40:03.820 --> 40:05.820
+World Health Organization start
+
+40:05.820 --> 40:07.820
+to take notice of these rumors
+
+40:07.820 --> 40:09.820
+of illness and went to the
+
+40:09.820 --> 40:11.820
+Chinese government and asked
+
+40:11.820 --> 40:13.820
+about it.
+
+40:13.820 --> 40:15.820
+Is that someone from one of
+
+40:15.820 --> 40:17.820
+those towns decided to go
+
+40:17.820 --> 40:19.820
+to Hong Kong.
+
+40:19.820 --> 40:21.820
+Hong Kong was a uniquely
+
+40:21.820 --> 40:23.820
+bad place for this to happen.
+
+40:23.820 --> 40:25.820
+In 2003, Hong Kong was
+
+40:25.820 --> 40:27.820
+home to about 7 million people.
+
+40:27.820 --> 40:29.820
+Over 16 million tourists
+
+40:29.820 --> 40:31.820
+visited each year, and
+
+40:31.820 --> 40:33.820
+over 500 international
+
+40:33.820 --> 40:35.820
+flights took off and landed
+
+40:35.820 --> 40:37.820
+there every day.
+
+40:37.820 --> 40:39.820
+On February 21st,
+
+40:39.820 --> 40:41.820
+one man arrived.
+
+40:41.820 --> 40:43.820
+He was already feeling sick.
+
+40:43.820 --> 40:45.820
+He checked into the
+
+40:45.820 --> 40:47.820
+Metropole Hotel and headed up
+
+40:47.820 --> 40:49.820
+to his room on the ninth floor.
+
+40:49.820 --> 40:51.820
+There he threw up or coughed,
+
+40:51.820 --> 40:53.820
+spewing droplets all over the
+
+40:53.820 --> 40:55.820
+elevator and hallway.
+
+40:55.820 --> 40:57.820
+That's how he infected 16 people
+
+40:57.820 --> 40:59.820
+who would spread the disease
+
+40:59.820 --> 41:01.820
+around the world.
+
+41:01.820 --> 41:03.820
+The man in this room boarded a
+
+41:03.820 --> 41:05.820
+flight the following day,
+
+41:05.820 --> 41:07.820
+arrived in Hanoi, Vietnam,
+
+41:07.820 --> 41:08.820
+and checked himself into the
+
+41:08.820 --> 41:10.820
+hospital.
+
+41:10.820 --> 41:12.820
+He expected doctors and nurses.
+
+41:12.820 --> 41:14.820
+One of those doctors then took
+
+41:14.820 --> 41:16.820
+the disease to Bangkok.
+
+41:16.820 --> 41:18.820
+That's when the World Health
+
+41:18.820 --> 41:20.820
+Organization declared an
+
+41:20.820 --> 41:22.820
+international emergency
+
+41:22.820 --> 41:24.820
+and officially named the
+
+41:24.820 --> 41:26.820
+disease.
+
+41:26.820 --> 41:28.820
+Survey acute respiratory syndrome
+
+41:28.820 --> 41:30.820
+or SARS for short.
+
+41:30.820 --> 41:32.820
+A few days later, scientists
+
+41:32.820 --> 41:34.820
+found the cause.
+
+41:34.820 --> 41:36.820
+A virus they had never seen
+
+41:36.820 --> 41:38.820
+into the hospital.
+
+41:38.820 --> 41:40.820
+I remember sitting there, my kids
+
+41:40.820 --> 41:42.820
+were there, and I was watching
+
+41:42.820 --> 41:44.820
+the news, and all of a sudden
+
+41:44.820 --> 41:46.820
+I saw a picture of my hospital
+
+41:46.820 --> 41:48.820
+and outside a hospital on the
+
+41:48.820 --> 41:50.820
+news.
+
+41:50.820 --> 41:52.820
+That was the first time it hit
+
+41:52.820 --> 41:54.820
+home that this was going to be
+
+41:54.820 --> 41:56.820
+a problem.
+
+41:56.820 --> 41:58.820
+It was about a week later
+
+41:58.820 --> 42:00.820
+when we identified that there
+
+42:00.820 --> 42:02.820
+were a substantial number of
+
+42:02.820 --> 42:04.820
+staff at the hospital who were
+
+42:04.820 --> 42:06.820
+in the hospital.
+
+42:06.820 --> 42:08.820
+We have to get somebody else to
+
+42:08.820 --> 42:10.820
+be on call on Tuesday.
+
+42:10.820 --> 42:12.820
+What was their job, what was
+
+42:12.820 --> 42:14.820
+going to fill in for them?
+
+42:14.820 --> 42:16.820
+Sometimes just losing one senior
+
+42:16.820 --> 42:18.820
+resident in our department
+
+42:18.820 --> 42:20.820
+throws the whole department into
+
+42:20.820 --> 42:22.820
+chaos.
+
+42:22.820 --> 42:24.820
+I was feeling fine when I got
+
+42:24.820 --> 42:26.820
+home, but I woke up in the
+
+42:26.820 --> 42:28.820
+middle of the night, not feeling
+
+42:28.820 --> 42:30.820
+well with a fever.
+
+42:30.820 --> 42:32.820
+That was probably what I had.
+
+42:32.820 --> 42:34.820
+Early symptoms were subtle and
+
+42:34.820 --> 42:36.820
+hard to identify, causing
+
+42:36.820 --> 42:38.820
+outbreaks even in advanced
+
+42:38.820 --> 42:40.820
+hospitals.
+
+42:40.820 --> 42:42.820
+Back in Hong Kong, a nightmare
+
+42:42.820 --> 42:44.820
+was taking place, SARS was
+
+42:44.820 --> 42:46.820
+spreading faster than ever.
+
+42:46.820 --> 42:48.820
+A man with SARS was in this
+
+42:48.820 --> 42:50.820
+unit of an apartment complex.
+
+42:50.820 --> 42:52.820
+He had diarrhea, and when he
+
+42:52.820 --> 42:54.820
+used his toilet, the SARS
+
+42:54.820 --> 42:56.820
+virus was carried through the
+
+42:56.820 --> 42:58.820
+pipes to the unit below where a
+
+42:58.820 --> 43:00.820
+fan blew the virus back up
+
+43:00.820 --> 43:02.820
+and it was likely blowing the
+
+43:02.820 --> 43:04.820
+virus to nearby buildings, making
+
+43:04.820 --> 43:06.820
+it much more difficult to contain.
+
+43:06.820 --> 43:08.820
+That's truly a nightmare scenario.
+
+43:08.820 --> 43:10.820
+You're not physically in contact
+
+43:10.820 --> 43:12.820
+with a known infected person.
+
+43:12.820 --> 43:14.820
+So it's much harder to track
+
+43:14.820 --> 43:16.820
+because we don't necessarily know
+
+43:16.820 --> 43:18.820
+the source of the contamination.
+
+43:18.820 --> 43:20.820
+What are they talking about?
+
+43:20.820 --> 43:22.820
+29 people were infected in
+
+43:22.820 --> 43:24.820
+this apartment complex, and
+
+43:24.820 --> 43:26.820
+hundreds were quarantined.
+
+43:26.820 --> 43:28.820
+By now the world was panicking.
+
+43:28.820 --> 43:30.820
+Someone was talking about this
+
+43:30.820 --> 43:32.820
+in America and
+
+43:32.820 --> 43:34.820
+postulating as to whether
+
+43:34.820 --> 43:36.820
+rodents were carrying the
+
+43:36.820 --> 43:38.820
+virus in these apartment complexes
+
+43:38.820 --> 43:40.820
+and that's why they had closed
+
+43:40.820 --> 43:42.820
+the apartment complexes.
+
+43:42.820 --> 43:44.820
+So one of the things you have
+
+43:44.820 --> 43:46.820
+to see here or think about here
+
+43:46.820 --> 43:48.820
+is that this was a
+
+43:48.820 --> 43:50.820
+possible clone release
+
+43:50.820 --> 43:52.820
+or clone release.
+
+43:52.820 --> 43:54.820
+And so if a clone was released
+
+43:54.820 --> 43:56.820
+somewhere
+
+43:56.820 --> 43:58.820
+and spread
+
+43:58.820 --> 44:00.820
+in this manner,
+
+44:00.820 --> 44:02.820
+you might start to make
+
+44:02.820 --> 44:04.820
+a rough estimate in your mind of
+
+44:04.820 --> 44:06.820
+okay, so what happens when
+
+44:06.820 --> 44:08.820
+people are infected with a clone?
+
+44:08.820 --> 44:10.820
+This might be what it
+
+44:10.820 --> 44:12.820
+happens. This might be the
+
+44:12.820 --> 44:14.820
+extent to which
+
+44:14.820 --> 44:16.820
+a replication
+
+44:16.820 --> 44:18.820
+competent RNA infectious clone
+
+44:18.820 --> 44:20.820
+insufficient quantities
+
+44:20.820 --> 44:22.820
+could be spread. Maybe even
+
+44:22.820 --> 44:24.820
+move from country to country on
+
+44:24.820 --> 44:26.820
+Earth for a little while.
+
+44:26.820 --> 44:28.820
+But how far does it go?
+
+44:28.820 --> 44:30.820
+And how many people really get
+
+44:30.820 --> 44:32.820
+it before it changes
+
+44:32.820 --> 44:34.820
+and goes away? Because that's
+
+44:34.820 --> 44:36.820
+what Alina Chan's paper shows.
+
+44:36.820 --> 44:40.820
+That there were 50 amino acid
+
+44:40.820 --> 44:42.820
+changes per person, per infection
+
+44:42.820 --> 44:44.820
+that was sequenced
+
+44:44.820 --> 44:46.820
+in the first SARS outbreak.
+
+44:46.820 --> 44:48.820
+And in the first six months
+
+44:48.820 --> 44:50.820
+of SARS-CoV-2, there was less
+
+44:50.820 --> 44:52.820
+than 10 amino acids changed in
+
+44:52.820 --> 44:54.820
+the world.
+
+44:54.820 --> 44:56.820
+The only way that can happen is
+
+44:56.820 --> 44:58.820
+with a clone.
+
+44:58.820 --> 45:00.820
+A simultaneous application
+
+45:00.820 --> 45:02.820
+of a clone or a bunch of
+
+45:02.820 --> 45:04.820
+people with a clone sent to
+
+45:04.820 --> 45:06.820
+different places and allowed
+
+45:06.820 --> 45:08.820
+to infect people. Maybe that's
+
+45:08.820 --> 45:10.820
+the case too. I don't know how
+
+45:10.820 --> 45:12.820
+they did it. I'm just calling
+
+45:12.820 --> 45:14.820
+in the crime.
+
+45:14.820 --> 45:16.820
+Fear that dogs and cats can carry
+
+45:16.820 --> 45:18.820
+SARS has led some residents in
+
+45:18.820 --> 45:20.820
+Beijing to abandon their
+
+45:20.820 --> 45:22.820
+points to test cab drivers
+
+45:22.820 --> 45:24.820
+for high temperatures, one of
+
+45:24.820 --> 45:26.820
+the symptoms of SARS.
+
+45:26.820 --> 45:28.820
+In part, it's all down to how
+
+45:28.820 --> 45:30.820
+much we, the public, trust what
+
+45:30.820 --> 45:32.820
+we're told by officials.
+
+45:32.820 --> 45:34.820
+Is it absolutely out of the
+
+45:34.820 --> 45:36.820
+question that this could have been
+
+45:36.820 --> 45:38.820
+something inflicted upon people
+
+45:38.820 --> 45:40.820
+by a terrorist agent of some sort?
+
+45:40.820 --> 45:42.820
+I think in March of the year
+
+45:42.820 --> 45:44.820
+2003, we exclude nothing.
+
+45:44.820 --> 45:46.820
+1755 people were infected in
+
+45:46.820 --> 45:48.820
+Hong Kong and 300 died.
+
+45:48.820 --> 45:50.820
+With cases in at least 26 other
+
+45:50.820 --> 45:52.820
+countries.
+
+45:52.820 --> 45:54.820
+Ultimately, SARS killed
+
+45:54.820 --> 45:56.820
+774 people. About 10 percent
+
+45:56.820 --> 45:58.820
+of those had infected.
+
+45:58.820 --> 46:00.820
+But then SARS did something
+
+46:00.820 --> 46:02.820
+totally unexpected.
+
+46:02.820 --> 46:04.820
+The funny thing about SARS is that
+
+46:04.820 --> 46:06.820
+after a while, it just kind of goes
+
+46:06.820 --> 46:08.820
+away. SARS just wasn't that
+
+46:08.820 --> 46:10.820
+hearty of SARS. We didn't know
+
+46:10.820 --> 46:12.820
+that when it started, but that's
+
+46:12.820 --> 46:14.820
+how it turned out. But I don't
+
+46:14.820 --> 46:16.820
+think that.
+
+46:16.820 --> 46:18.820
+SARS are supposed to behave.
+
+46:18.820 --> 46:20.820
+That's why I really believe that
+
+46:20.820 --> 46:22.820
+SARS was probably an example of
+
+46:22.820 --> 46:24.820
+the release of a clone or the
+
+46:24.820 --> 46:26.820
+leak of a clone in a semi
+
+46:26.820 --> 46:28.820
+legit quantity.
+
+46:28.820 --> 46:30.820
+But nothing
+
+46:30.820 --> 46:32.820
+on the order of, you know,
+
+46:32.820 --> 46:34.820
+hundreds of liters.
+
+46:34.820 --> 46:36.820
+And again, it wouldn't matter
+
+46:36.820 --> 46:38.820
+because you still have this
+
+46:38.820 --> 46:40.820
+limitation of what RNA can do.
+
+46:40.820 --> 46:42.820
+And so unless you artificially
+
+46:42.820 --> 46:44.820
+put it in a bunch of different
+
+46:44.820 --> 46:46.820
+viruses, it would be
+
+46:46.820 --> 46:48.820
+impossible for this virus.
+
+46:48.820 --> 46:50.820
+The virus that was
+
+46:50.820 --> 46:52.820
+spread to Canada
+
+46:52.820 --> 46:54.820
+was in no way shape or form the
+
+46:54.820 --> 46:56.820
+same virus that was found
+
+46:56.820 --> 46:58.820
+originally in the first
+
+46:58.820 --> 47:00.820
+outbreak in China.
+
+47:00.820 --> 47:02.820
+They were different by
+
+47:02.820 --> 47:04.820
+hundreds of amino acids by
+
+47:04.820 --> 47:06.820
+them. And that's a really
+
+47:06.820 --> 47:08.820
+important thing to realize
+
+47:08.820 --> 47:10.820
+that a zoonotic virus or a
+
+47:10.820 --> 47:12.820
+virus that's not adapted to
+
+47:12.820 --> 47:14.820
+humans is still going to
+
+47:14.820 --> 47:16.820
+change quite significantly
+
+47:16.820 --> 47:18.820
+when it goes through
+
+47:18.820 --> 47:20.820
+thousands of them.
+
+47:20.820 --> 47:22.820
+And so if a virus has the
+
+47:22.820 --> 47:24.820
+ability to go through
+
+47:24.820 --> 47:26.820
+thousands of them, then it
+
+47:26.820 --> 47:28.820
+will have also the requisite
+
+47:28.820 --> 47:30.820
+changes that will occur after
+
+47:30.820 --> 47:32.820
+those thousands, if not
+
+47:32.820 --> 47:34.820
+hundreds of thousands of copying
+
+47:34.820 --> 47:36.820
+events.
+
+47:36.820 --> 47:38.820
+And so they make it seem like
+
+47:38.820 --> 47:40.820
+SARS did something magic.
+
+47:40.820 --> 47:42.820
+But SARS did exactly what you
+
+47:42.820 --> 47:44.820
+would expect it to do.
+
+47:44.820 --> 47:46.820
+If it started extremely
+
+47:46.820 --> 47:48.820
+pure,
+
+47:48.820 --> 47:50.820
+if it started extremely
+
+47:50.820 --> 47:52.820
+pure rather than at the
+
+47:52.820 --> 47:54.820
+normal swarm state
+
+47:54.820 --> 47:56.820
+where the vast majority of
+
+47:56.820 --> 47:58.820
+particles in any given infection
+
+47:58.820 --> 48:00.820
+are not infectious
+
+48:00.820 --> 48:02.820
+but it started in a very
+
+48:02.820 --> 48:04.820
+high purity state
+
+48:04.820 --> 48:06.820
+and it started in a few people
+
+48:06.820 --> 48:08.820
+being exposed
+
+48:08.820 --> 48:10.820
+and it's very easy to imagine
+
+48:10.820 --> 48:12.820
+how if those people
+
+48:12.820 --> 48:14.820
+exposed a few other people
+
+48:14.820 --> 48:16.820
+and it spread to them
+
+48:16.820 --> 48:18.820
+and it still remained
+
+48:18.820 --> 48:20.820
+relatively replication
+
+48:20.820 --> 48:22.820
+competent and high purity
+
+48:22.820 --> 48:24.820
+and they got it at an airplane
+
+48:24.820 --> 48:26.820
+or got it on a train
+
+48:26.820 --> 48:28.820
+you're going to see some
+
+48:28.820 --> 48:30.820
+spread.
+
+48:30.820 --> 48:32.820
+Because if you get infected
+
+48:32.820 --> 48:34.820
+by an RNA infectious clone
+
+48:34.820 --> 48:36.820
+you have many more
+
+48:36.820 --> 48:37.820
+competent particles than somebody
+
+48:37.820 --> 48:39.820
+that's very simple.
+
+48:41.820 --> 48:43.820
+It's a success story.
+
+48:43.820 --> 48:45.820
+I think a lot of that is just
+
+48:45.820 --> 48:47.820
+luck.
+
+48:47.820 --> 48:49.820
+Because a lot of mistakes were made.
+
+48:49.820 --> 48:51.820
+Chinese health officials only
+
+48:51.820 --> 48:53.820
+admitted there was an outbreak
+
+48:53.820 --> 48:55.820
+after 18 people had already
+
+48:55.820 --> 48:57.820
+died and hundreds of others
+
+48:57.820 --> 48:59.820
+were sick.
+
+48:59.820 --> 49:01.820
+After the SARS epidemic
+
+49:01.820 --> 49:03.820
+the World Health Organization
+
+49:03.820 --> 49:05.820
+brought together 196 countries
+
+49:05.820 --> 49:07.820
+and they all committed to
+
+49:07.820 --> 49:09.820
+improving their ability to
+
+49:09.820 --> 49:11.820
+detect, assess, notify and
+
+49:11.820 --> 49:13.820
+report public health events
+
+49:13.820 --> 49:15.820
+including outbreaks.
+
+49:15.820 --> 49:17.820
+In 2014 only a third of them
+
+49:17.820 --> 49:19.820
+were in compliance.
+
+49:19.820 --> 49:21.820
+The big problem with the
+
+49:21.820 --> 49:23.820
+pandemic is we don't know
+
+49:23.820 --> 49:25.820
+when it will come
+
+49:25.820 --> 49:27.820
+and so it's very easy
+
+49:27.820 --> 49:29.820
+to put off to another day.
+
+49:29.820 --> 49:31.820
+It really takes an extraordinary
+
+49:31.820 --> 49:33.820
+act of political will to say
+
+49:33.820 --> 49:35.820
+that right now things don't
+
+49:35.820 --> 49:37.820
+look that bad but we're going to
+
+49:37.820 --> 49:39.820
+send funding to public health
+
+49:39.820 --> 49:41.820
+anyway because we know that
+
+49:41.820 --> 49:43.820
+someday it will be bad.
+
+49:43.820 --> 49:45.820
+SARS showed how far and fast
+
+49:45.820 --> 49:47.820
+a virus can travel in our modern
+
+49:47.820 --> 49:49.820
+world.
+
+49:49.820 --> 49:51.820
+SARS went around the world in
+
+49:51.820 --> 49:53.820
+weeks.
+
+49:53.820 --> 49:55.820
+It's entirely possible that the
+
+49:55.820 --> 49:57.820
+next will go around the world in
+
+49:57.820 --> 49:59.820
+days. That's far faster than we
+
+49:59.820 --> 50:01.820
+could ever catch up.
+
+50:01.820 --> 50:03.820
+SARS began at the source.
+
+50:03.820 --> 50:05.820
+SARS began as a virus
+
+50:05.820 --> 50:07.820
+living silently in a wild
+
+50:07.820 --> 50:09.820
+animal.
+
+50:09.820 --> 50:11.820
+Experts believe it was bats
+
+50:11.820 --> 50:13.820
+here in southern China.
+
+50:13.820 --> 50:15.820
+These scientists have been coming
+
+50:15.820 --> 50:17.820
+to these caves since the outbreak
+
+50:17.820 --> 50:19.820
+catching bats and scanning
+
+50:19.820 --> 50:21.820
+them for viruses similar to
+
+50:21.820 --> 50:23.820
+SARS.
+
+50:23.820 --> 50:25.820
+And they're finding a lot
+
+50:25.820 --> 50:27.820
+which is allowing them to create
+
+50:27.820 --> 50:29.820
+an early warning system.
+
+50:29.820 --> 50:31.820
+And when we find them we raise the
+
+50:31.820 --> 50:33.820
+alert and the government of China
+
+50:33.820 --> 50:35.820
+comes in and tries to reduce
+
+50:35.820 --> 50:37.820
+the exposure of those populations
+
+50:37.820 --> 50:39.820
+to viruses.
+
+50:39.820 --> 50:41.820
+China is not the only place these
+
+50:41.820 --> 50:43.820
+viruses are being found.
+
+50:43.820 --> 50:45.820
+This map shows where a new
+
+50:45.820 --> 50:47.820
+virus is most likely to emerge.
+
+50:47.820 --> 50:49.820
+The front line for disease
+
+50:49.820 --> 50:51.820
+emergence are places like the
+
+50:51.820 --> 50:53.820
+end of the road in a tropical
+
+50:53.820 --> 50:55.820
+forest where someone's just
+
+50:55.820 --> 50:57.820
+built a new mining concession
+
+50:57.820 --> 50:59.820
+in the garden hunt wildlife.
+
+50:59.820 --> 51:01.820
+Or it's a farm in southeast
+
+51:01.820 --> 51:03.820
+Asia that's been expanding and
+
+51:03.820 --> 51:05.820
+intensifying that has bats
+
+51:05.820 --> 51:07.820
+nearby that spread.
+
+51:07.820 --> 51:09.820
+What's extraordinary is that this
+
+51:09.820 --> 51:11.820
+guy was able to procure millions
+
+51:11.820 --> 51:13.820
+of dollars from the US and USAID
+
+51:13.820 --> 51:15.820
+for funding of this nonsense
+
+51:15.820 --> 51:17.820
+just by telling these stories
+
+51:17.820 --> 51:19.820
+in an English accent.
+
+51:19.820 --> 51:21.820
+Stories of 1.7 million
+
+51:21.820 --> 51:23.820
+viruses waiting to zoonautically
+
+51:23.820 --> 51:24.820
+jump.
+
+51:24.820 --> 51:26.820
+Stories of third world countries
+
+51:26.820 --> 51:28.820
+like the US and USAID
+
+51:28.820 --> 51:30.820
+for us is being cut down.
+
+51:30.820 --> 51:32.820
+That's where it's really
+
+51:32.820 --> 51:34.820
+dangerous because these people
+
+51:34.820 --> 51:36.820
+are eating bush meat.
+
+51:36.820 --> 51:38.820
+I mean we might as well have
+
+51:38.820 --> 51:40.820
+Brent Weinstein on here to tell
+
+51:40.820 --> 51:42.820
+us how AIDS and everything else
+
+51:42.820 --> 51:44.820
+came from bush meat.
+
+51:44.820 --> 51:46.820
+And this most certainly came
+
+51:46.820 --> 51:48.820
+from bush meat.
+
+51:48.820 --> 51:50.820
+And this guy maybe got millions
+
+51:50.820 --> 51:52.820
+of dollars in grants, hundreds
+
+51:52.820 --> 51:54.820
+of thousands of dollars in
+
+51:54.820 --> 51:56.820
+their life.
+
+51:56.820 --> 51:58.820
+And the other thing that I think
+
+51:58.820 --> 52:00.820
+is the way that they
+
+52:00.820 --> 52:02.820
+hypothesize is that
+
+52:02.820 --> 52:04.820
+that these zoonautic jumps will
+
+52:04.820 --> 52:06.820
+occur.
+
+52:06.820 --> 52:08.820
+These people were telling stories
+
+52:08.820 --> 52:10.820
+they weren't really making
+
+52:10.820 --> 52:12.820
+viruses.
+
+52:12.820 --> 52:14.820
+They weren't really going to put
+
+52:14.820 --> 52:16.820
+fear and you think this guy
+
+52:16.820 --> 52:18.820
+was going to put fear and cleavage
+
+52:18.820 --> 52:20.820
+sites into 20 different
+
+52:20.820 --> 52:22.820
+coronaviruses and then make a
+
+52:22.820 --> 52:24.820
+decision.
+
+52:24.820 --> 52:26.820
+And do you really believe that
+
+52:26.820 --> 52:28.820
+or do you believe that this guy
+
+52:28.820 --> 52:30.820
+is you know all about
+
+52:30.820 --> 52:32.820
+telling stories?
+
+52:32.820 --> 52:34.820
+All about telling stories
+
+52:34.820 --> 52:36.820
+so that people can go on
+
+52:36.820 --> 52:38.820
+and tell stories about his
+
+52:38.820 --> 52:40.820
+stories.
+
+52:40.820 --> 52:42.820
+And so that Dr. Giordano can tell
+
+52:42.820 --> 52:44.820
+stories about his stories.
+
+52:44.820 --> 52:46.820
+And collectively we can
+
+52:46.820 --> 52:48.820
+bamboozle the world
+
+52:48.820 --> 52:50.820
+about the importance of public
+
+52:50.820 --> 52:52.820
+health.
+
+52:52.820 --> 52:54.820
+Because even though it doesn't
+
+52:54.820 --> 52:56.820
+seem important right now we
+
+52:56.820 --> 52:58.820
+should invest in it because we
+
+52:58.820 --> 53:00.820
+know it's going to be important
+
+53:00.820 --> 53:02.820
+in the future.
+
+53:02.820 --> 53:04.820
+This is a revolutionary way to
+
+53:04.820 --> 53:06.820
+defend ourselves against future
+
+53:06.820 --> 53:08.820
+pandemics but it won't catch
+
+53:08.820 --> 53:10.820
+every new disease.
+
+53:10.820 --> 53:12.820
+For that we need to improve our
+
+53:12.820 --> 53:14.820
+vaccines.
+
+53:14.820 --> 53:16.820
+If a disease comes along that we
+
+53:16.820 --> 53:18.820
+haven't seen before typically
+
+53:18.820 --> 53:20.820
+that disease.
+
+53:20.820 --> 53:22.820
+And new technologies might
+
+53:22.820 --> 53:24.820
+shorten those times.
+
+53:24.820 --> 53:26.820
+That's why an organization called
+
+53:26.820 --> 53:28.820
+SEPI was founded and they're
+
+53:28.820 --> 53:30.820
+developing a vaccine for
+
+53:30.820 --> 53:32.820
+disease acts.
+
+53:32.820 --> 53:34.820
+Traditional vaccines inject
+
+53:34.820 --> 53:36.820
+protein molecules from a virus
+
+53:36.820 --> 53:38.820
+and manufacturing these proteins
+
+53:38.820 --> 53:40.820
+is a long and expensive process
+
+53:40.820 --> 53:42.820
+but this new vaccine doesn't use
+
+53:42.820 --> 53:44.820
+proteins.
+
+53:44.820 --> 53:46.820
+It injects genetic material that
+
+53:46.820 --> 53:48.820
+actually forms the
+
+53:48.820 --> 53:50.820
+manufacturer creating the
+
+53:50.820 --> 53:52.820
+protein molecules and then the
+
+53:52.820 --> 53:54.820
+antibodies for them.
+
+53:54.820 --> 53:56.820
+My shortness times.
+
+53:56.820 --> 53:58.820
+That's why an organization called
+
+53:58.820 --> 54:00.820
+SEPI was founded and they're
+
+54:00.820 --> 54:02.820
+developing a vaccine for
+
+54:02.820 --> 54:04.820
+disease acts.
+
+54:04.820 --> 54:06.820
+Traditional vaccines inject
+
+54:06.820 --> 54:08.820
+protein molecules from a
+
+54:08.820 --> 54:10.820
+virus and manufacturing these
+
+54:10.820 --> 54:12.820
+proteins is a long.
+
+54:12.820 --> 54:14.820
+Did you know that SEPI was
+
+54:14.820 --> 54:16.820
+formed specifically to develop
+
+54:16.820 --> 54:18.820
+genetic vaccines so then SEPI
+
+54:18.820 --> 54:20.820
+also funded Moderna I suppose?
+
+54:20.820 --> 54:22.820
+Interesting.
+
+54:22.820 --> 54:24.820
+Long and expensive process but
+
+54:24.820 --> 54:26.820
+this new vaccine doesn't use
+
+54:26.820 --> 54:28.820
+proteins. It injects genetic
+
+54:28.820 --> 54:30.820
+material that tells the body to
+
+54:30.820 --> 54:32.820
+produce those proteins itself.
+
+54:32.820 --> 54:34.820
+Your body becomes the
+
+54:34.820 --> 54:36.820
+manufacturer creating the
+
+54:36.820 --> 54:38.820
+protein molecules and then the
+
+54:38.820 --> 54:40.820
+antibodies for them.
+
+54:40.820 --> 54:42.820
+Scientists can customize the
+
+54:42.820 --> 54:44.820
+material to get the body to
+
+54:44.820 --> 54:46.820
+produce the protein molecules of
+
+54:46.820 --> 54:48.820
+almost any virus.
+
+54:48.820 --> 54:50.820
+Once they figure out how to
+
+54:50.820 --> 54:52.820
+deliver this into the body it
+
+54:52.820 --> 54:54.820
+could reduce the time it takes to
+
+54:54.820 --> 54:56.820
+develop a new vaccine from
+
+54:56.820 --> 54:58.820
+several years to just 16 weeks.
+
+54:58.820 --> 55:00.820
+There was the rub.
+
+55:00.820 --> 55:02.820
+Once they figure it out how to
+
+55:02.820 --> 55:04.820
+deliver this to the body it could
+
+55:04.820 --> 55:06.820
+reduce from six years to 16
+
+55:06.820 --> 55:08.820
+weeks. Listen carefully.
+
+55:08.820 --> 55:10.820
+It injects genetic material that
+
+55:10.820 --> 55:12.820
+tells the body to produce those
+
+55:12.820 --> 55:14.820
+proteins itself.
+
+55:14.820 --> 55:16.820
+Your body becomes the
+
+55:16.820 --> 55:18.820
+manufacturer creating the
+
+55:18.820 --> 55:20.820
+protein molecules and then the
+
+55:20.820 --> 55:22.820
+antibodies for them.
+
+55:22.820 --> 55:24.820
+Scientists can customize the
+
+55:24.820 --> 55:26.820
+material to get the body to
+
+55:26.820 --> 55:28.820
+produce the protein molecules of
+
+55:28.820 --> 55:30.820
+almost any virus.
+
+55:30.820 --> 55:32.820
+Once they figure out how to
+
+55:32.820 --> 55:34.820
+deliver this into the body it could
+
+55:34.820 --> 55:36.820
+reduce the time it takes to
+
+55:36.820 --> 55:38.820
+develop a new vaccine from
+
+55:38.820 --> 55:40.820
+the body.
+
+55:40.820 --> 55:42.820
+Meanwhile scientists are trying to
+
+55:42.820 --> 55:44.820
+develop a universal influenza
+
+55:44.820 --> 55:46.820
+vaccine. One shot that could
+
+55:46.820 --> 55:48.820
+immunize us from every possible
+
+55:48.820 --> 55:50.820
+flu strain for life.
+
+55:50.820 --> 55:52.820
+I mean think about how stupid
+
+55:52.820 --> 55:54.820
+that story is.
+
+55:54.820 --> 55:56.820
+Think about how ridiculous that
+
+55:56.820 --> 55:58.820
+story is knowing what you know
+
+55:58.820 --> 56:00.820
+about the immune system after
+
+56:00.820 --> 56:02.820
+hanging out with me for a little
+
+56:02.820 --> 56:04.820
+while.
+
+56:04.820 --> 56:06.820
+They've been talking about a
+
+56:06.820 --> 56:08.820
+little bit about how she was
+
+56:08.820 --> 56:10.820
+40.
+
+56:10.820 --> 56:12.820
+I mean come on.
+
+56:12.820 --> 56:14.820
+This is crazy talk.
+
+56:14.820 --> 56:16.820
+And this was from 2019.
+
+56:16.820 --> 56:18.820
+It's a Netflix show man.
+
+56:18.820 --> 56:20.820
+From a series called
+
+56:20.820 --> 56:22.820
+Explained.
+
+56:22.820 --> 56:24.820
+And this one was called the
+
+56:24.820 --> 56:26.820
+next pandemic.
+
+56:26.820 --> 56:28.820
+I mean this is just as
+
+56:28.820 --> 56:30.820
+damning as Brett Weinstein
+
+56:30.820 --> 56:32.820
+having Sam Harris on his
+
+56:32.820 --> 56:34.820
+podcast in December of
+
+56:34.820 --> 56:36.820
+2020.
+
+56:36.820 --> 56:38.820
+This is the anti-vex
+
+56:38.820 --> 56:40.820
+attitude if there's a real
+
+56:40.820 --> 56:42.820
+pandemic.
+
+56:42.820 --> 56:44.820
+This is absolutely insane.
+
+56:44.820 --> 56:46.820
+We have been
+
+56:46.820 --> 56:48.820
+had.
+
+56:48.820 --> 56:50.820
+This is not a mystery that needs
+
+56:50.820 --> 56:52.820
+solving.
+
+56:52.820 --> 56:54.820
+This was a mystery that we were
+
+56:54.820 --> 56:56.820
+handed.
+
+56:56.820 --> 56:58.820
+Forced fed.
+
+56:58.820 --> 57:00.820
+Tied down.
+
+57:00.820 --> 57:02.820
+Our eyes were pinned open.
+
+57:02.820 --> 57:04.820
+It was a mystery.
+
+57:04.820 --> 57:06.820
+It was a mystery.
+
+57:06.820 --> 57:08.820
+None of those
+
+57:08.820 --> 57:10.820
+universal flu vaccines
+
+57:10.820 --> 57:12.820
+as they're called are
+
+57:12.820 --> 57:14.820
+anywhere near to being deployed
+
+57:14.820 --> 57:16.820
+in the population yet.
+
+57:16.820 --> 57:18.820
+But the U.S. federal government
+
+57:18.820 --> 57:20.820
+and governments in Europe
+
+57:20.820 --> 57:22.820
+have been supporting that
+
+57:22.820 --> 57:24.820
+research in a way that they
+
+57:24.820 --> 57:26.820
+didn't in a couple of decades
+
+57:26.820 --> 57:28.820
+before.
+
+57:28.820 --> 57:30.820
+Because they understand that
+
+57:30.820 --> 57:32.820
+it's not a mystery.
+
+57:32.820 --> 57:34.820
+Because human technology
+
+57:34.820 --> 57:36.820
+has made the next pandemic
+
+57:36.820 --> 57:38.820
+inevitable.
+
+57:38.820 --> 57:40.820
+Deforestation is bringing more
+
+57:40.820 --> 57:42.820
+wild animals into contact
+
+57:42.820 --> 57:44.820
+with more people.
+
+57:44.820 --> 57:46.820
+And factory farming is pushing
+
+57:46.820 --> 57:48.820
+animals closer together
+
+57:48.820 --> 57:50.820
+giving their viruses more
+
+57:50.820 --> 57:52.820
+opportunities to combine
+
+57:52.820 --> 57:54.820
+into one that could infect us.
+
+57:54.820 --> 57:56.820
+Then we give them more ways
+
+57:56.820 --> 57:58.820
+than ever to spread.
+
+57:58.820 --> 58:00.820
+We've been in this race since
+
+58:00.820 --> 58:02.820
+life on Earth began.
+
+58:02.820 --> 58:04.820
+When a pandemic comes along
+
+58:04.820 --> 58:06.820
+of any size, we always look
+
+58:06.820 --> 58:08.820
+back and wish we'd invested more.
+
+58:12.820 --> 58:14.820
+We are far short of what
+
+58:14.820 --> 58:16.820
+needs to be done.
+
+58:20.820 --> 58:22.820
+Well, I hope I've convinced
+
+58:22.820 --> 58:24.820
+you that this is no joke.
+
+58:24.820 --> 58:26.820
+They have been planning this
+
+58:26.820 --> 58:28.820
+at some time and they've been
+
+58:28.820 --> 58:30.820
+brainwashing people for some
+
+58:30.820 --> 58:32.820
+time.
+
+58:32.820 --> 58:34.820
+And we're not going to do this
+
+58:34.820 --> 58:36.820
+one.
+
+58:36.820 --> 58:38.820
+And so it's really something that
+
+58:38.820 --> 58:40.820
+we've got to be aware of.
+
+58:40.820 --> 58:42.820
+We've got to be alert to.
+
+58:42.820 --> 58:44.820
+We've got to understand that
+
+58:44.820 --> 58:46.820
+that's happening.
+
+58:46.820 --> 58:48.820
+And it's really something that
+
+58:48.820 --> 58:50.820
+needs talking about regularly.
+
+58:50.820 --> 58:52.820
+So that's why I'm going to keep
+
+58:52.820 --> 58:54.820
+repeating myself here
+
+58:54.820 --> 58:56.820
+that was the show.
+
+59:00.820 --> 59:02.820
+I'm not sure if that's
+
+59:02.820 --> 59:04.820
+from
+
+59:04.820 --> 59:06.820
+$64,000
+
+59:06.820 --> 59:08.820
+pyramid or if that's from Hollywood
+
+59:08.820 --> 59:10.820
+squares.
+
+59:10.820 --> 59:12.820
+They told us that there
+
+59:12.820 --> 59:14.820
+was an especially dangerous pandemic
+
+59:14.820 --> 59:16.820
+but it really wasn't. It was a bunch of
+
+59:16.820 --> 59:18.820
+protocols. And the only reason
+
+59:18.820 --> 59:20.820
+why we're buying it is because of this illusion of
+
+59:20.820 --> 59:22.820
+consensus.
+
+59:22.820 --> 59:24.820
+Is a lot like the laugh track
+
+59:24.820 --> 59:26.820
+on Seinfeld.
+
+59:26.820 --> 59:28.820
+Not only does it tell you when to laugh
+
+59:28.820 --> 59:30.820
+but it actually tricks your
+
+59:30.820 --> 59:32.820
+brain into thinking
+
+59:32.820 --> 59:34.820
+that a lot of other people think what's
+
+59:34.820 --> 59:36.820
+happening on the screen is funny
+
+59:36.820 --> 59:38.820
+and that makes it funnier for you.
+
+59:38.820 --> 59:40.820
+You might be not aware of this
+
+59:40.820 --> 59:42.820
+but actually that's also the reason
+
+59:42.820 --> 59:44.820
+why a joke is funnier
+
+59:44.820 --> 59:46.820
+when you tell it to lots of people
+
+59:46.820 --> 59:48.820
+that's why a comedian is much funnier
+
+59:48.820 --> 59:50.820
+when there's lots of people in the
+
+59:50.820 --> 59:52.820
+that's why a rock concert is
+
+59:52.820 --> 59:54.820
+more enjoyable when you go
+
+59:54.820 --> 59:56.820
+with your friends. That's why a
+
+59:56.820 --> 59:58.820
+church service is more
+
+59:58.820 --> 01:00:00.820
+invigorating than watching a church service on
+
+01:00:00.820 --> 01:00:02.820
+Zoom because
+
+01:00:02.820 --> 01:00:04.820
+being around other people
+
+01:00:04.820 --> 01:00:06.820
+that are sharing an experience with
+
+01:00:06.820 --> 01:00:08.820
+you and enjoying
+
+01:00:08.820 --> 01:00:10.820
+the same experience or
+
+01:00:10.820 --> 01:00:12.820
+fearing the same experience
+
+01:00:12.820 --> 01:00:14.820
+can amplify the emotion of the
+
+01:00:14.820 --> 01:00:16.820
+experience for you because
+
+01:00:16.820 --> 01:00:18.820
+we're social animals
+
+01:00:18.820 --> 01:00:20.820
+and that's how it works.
+
+01:00:20.820 --> 01:00:22.820
+That's also why when somebody tells a joke
+
+01:00:22.820 --> 01:00:24.820
+and you don't know that it's funny
+
+01:00:24.820 --> 01:00:26.820
+but everybody else laughs
+
+01:00:26.820 --> 01:00:28.820
+you tend to laugh along
+
+01:00:28.820 --> 01:00:30.820
+maybe you'll get it later
+
+01:00:30.820 --> 01:00:32.820
+maybe you won't
+
+01:00:32.820 --> 01:00:34.820
+but at least you won't feel like
+
+01:00:34.820 --> 01:00:36.820
+left out or like an idiot
+
+01:00:36.820 --> 01:00:38.820
+and this impetus is real
+
+01:00:38.820 --> 01:00:40.820
+and this impetus can be
+
+01:00:40.820 --> 01:00:42.820
+hijacked by social media
+
+01:00:42.820 --> 01:00:46.820
+if every time you open your phone
+
+01:00:46.820 --> 01:00:48.820
+you scroll past 50 people
+
+01:00:48.820 --> 01:00:50.820
+who all think the same thing
+
+01:00:50.820 --> 01:00:52.820
+it's going to be harder
+
+01:00:52.820 --> 01:00:54.820
+for you to disagree with
+
+01:00:54.820 --> 01:00:56.820
+that same thing than it
+
+01:00:56.820 --> 01:00:58.820
+would have been before you opened your phone
+
+01:00:58.820 --> 01:01:00.820
+if you
+
+01:01:00.820 --> 01:01:02.820
+watch a news program
+
+01:01:02.820 --> 01:01:04.820
+with four people talking and all
+
+01:01:04.820 --> 01:01:06.820
+those four people agree about
+
+01:01:06.820 --> 01:01:08.820
+something to do with the city council
+
+01:01:08.820 --> 01:01:10.820
+it's going to be hard for you
+
+01:01:10.820 --> 01:01:12.820
+or harder for you
+
+01:01:12.820 --> 01:01:14.820
+than it was before that news program
+
+01:01:14.820 --> 01:01:16.820
+to go against that idea
+
+01:01:16.820 --> 01:01:18.820
+simply because of the illusion
+
+01:01:18.820 --> 01:01:20.820
+of consensus
+
+01:01:20.820 --> 01:01:22.820
+if you remove the illusion of consensus
+
+01:01:22.820 --> 01:01:24.820
+it becomes clear how powerful it is
+
+01:01:32.820 --> 01:01:34.820
+medium turkey chili
+
+01:01:37.820 --> 01:01:39.820
+medium crab bis
+
+01:01:45.820 --> 01:01:47.820
+you didn't get any bread
+
+01:01:47.820 --> 01:01:49.820
+just forget it but it go
+
+01:01:52.820 --> 01:01:54.820
+excuse me I think you forgot my bread
+
+01:01:54.820 --> 01:01:56.820
+bread two dollars extra
+
+01:01:56.820 --> 01:01:58.820
+two dollars but everyone in front of me
+
+01:01:58.820 --> 01:01:59.820
+got three bread
+
+01:01:59.820 --> 01:02:00.820
+you want bread?
+
+01:02:00.820 --> 01:02:01.820
+yes please
+
+01:02:01.820 --> 01:02:03.820
+three dollars
+
+01:02:03.820 --> 01:02:05.820
+nothing for you
+
+01:02:07.820 --> 01:02:09.820
+no soup for you
+
+01:02:09.820 --> 01:02:11.820
+and you can tell that these players
+
+01:02:11.820 --> 01:02:12.820
+are all playing along
+
+01:02:12.820 --> 01:02:14.820
+because they're ignoring the things that could
+
+01:02:14.820 --> 01:02:16.820
+reduce the impact
+
+01:02:16.820 --> 01:02:18.820
+of the novel virus
+
+01:02:18.820 --> 01:02:20.820
+reduce the need
+
+01:02:20.820 --> 01:02:22.820
+for the intervention
+
+01:02:22.820 --> 01:02:24.820
+reduce the excuse
+
+01:02:24.820 --> 01:02:26.820
+for the application
+
+01:02:26.820 --> 01:02:28.820
+of the blind protocols
+
+01:02:28.820 --> 01:02:30.820
+you see the whole excuse
+
+01:02:30.820 --> 01:02:32.820
+for stumbling into remdesivir
+
+01:02:32.820 --> 01:02:34.820
+and stumbling into ventilation
+
+01:02:34.820 --> 01:02:36.820
+was the unknown aspect
+
+01:02:36.820 --> 01:02:38.820
+of the novel virus
+
+01:02:38.820 --> 01:02:40.820
+but if you remove the unknown aspect
+
+01:02:40.820 --> 01:02:42.820
+of the novel virus
+
+01:02:42.820 --> 01:02:44.820
+then it becomes clear
+
+01:02:44.820 --> 01:02:46.820
+what really happened is a crime
+
+01:02:46.820 --> 01:02:48.820
+iatrogenic murder
+
+01:02:48.820 --> 01:02:50.820
+that's why
+
+01:02:50.820 --> 01:02:52.820
+Robert Malone is very curious
+
+01:02:52.820 --> 01:02:54.820
+talking to Paul Catrell
+
+01:02:54.820 --> 01:02:56.820
+on a stream
+
+01:02:56.820 --> 01:02:58.820
+in August of 2021
+
+01:02:58.820 --> 01:03:00.820
+saying the dexamethasone
+
+01:03:00.820 --> 01:03:02.820
+could be used to drive up the kill rate
+
+01:03:02.820 --> 01:03:04.820
+and that remdesivir
+
+01:03:04.820 --> 01:03:06.820
+was a rabbit hole that he didn't want to go down
+
+01:03:06.820 --> 01:03:08.820
+well isn't that curious
+
+01:03:08.820 --> 01:03:10.820
+how can we stop saying that?
+
+01:03:10.820 --> 01:03:12.820
+why didn't he say that
+
+01:03:12.820 --> 01:03:14.820
+on Brett Weinstein's street?
+
+01:03:20.820 --> 01:03:22.820
+one of the three tv scenarios
+
+01:03:22.820 --> 01:03:24.820
+is a laboratory or a bad cave zone
+
+01:03:24.820 --> 01:03:26.820
+and we saw that in spades
+
+01:03:26.820 --> 01:03:28.820
+on that program
+
+01:03:28.820 --> 01:03:30.820
+with Peter Dasek and Bill Gates
+
+01:03:30.820 --> 01:03:32.820
+here on Netflix
+
+01:03:32.820 --> 01:03:34.820
+and that is the mystery that we were supposed to solve
+
+01:03:34.820 --> 01:03:36.820
+and we were supposed to argue
+
+01:03:36.820 --> 01:03:38.820
+that the lab leak had come on
+
+01:03:38.820 --> 01:03:40.820
+it can't be a lab leak
+
+01:03:40.820 --> 01:03:42.820
+it just came from those dirty markets
+
+01:03:42.820 --> 01:03:44.820
+and then with the cover up
+
+01:03:44.820 --> 01:03:46.820
+and people lying and covering up their emails
+
+01:03:46.820 --> 01:03:48.820
+and slack messages
+
+01:03:48.820 --> 01:03:50.820
+it became clear
+
+01:03:50.820 --> 01:03:52.820
+that even people on the natural
+
+01:03:52.820 --> 01:03:54.820
+zoonosis side
+
+01:03:54.820 --> 01:03:56.820
+were covering up their
+
+01:03:56.820 --> 01:03:58.820
+suspicions that it was a lab leak
+
+01:03:58.820 --> 01:04:00.820
+so now the whole world
+
+01:04:00.820 --> 01:04:02.820
+has kind of come to the conclusion
+
+01:04:02.820 --> 01:04:04.820
+that it's a lab leak
+
+01:04:04.820 --> 01:04:06.820
+that means that a lab leak
+
+01:04:06.820 --> 01:04:08.820
+can come in the future
+
+01:04:08.820 --> 01:04:10.820
+and there's nothing you can do about it
+
+01:04:10.820 --> 01:04:12.820
+as Robert Malone said
+
+01:04:12.820 --> 01:04:14.820
+it's easier and easier to build the
+
+01:04:14.820 --> 01:04:16.820
+by the equipment on eBay
+
+01:04:16.820 --> 01:04:18.820
+and do it in your garage
+
+01:04:18.820 --> 01:04:20.820
+for goodness sakes
+
+01:04:20.820 --> 01:04:22.820
+but I'm suggesting
+
+01:04:22.820 --> 01:04:24.820
+that the PCR test
+
+01:04:24.820 --> 01:04:26.820
+independently unable to differentiate
+
+01:04:26.820 --> 01:04:28.820
+from a conflated background signal
+
+01:04:28.820 --> 01:04:30.820
+could easily be used
+
+01:04:30.820 --> 01:04:32.820
+as a psychological weapon
+
+01:04:32.820 --> 01:04:34.820
+to drive people mad
+
+01:04:34.820 --> 01:04:36.820
+and to think that there's the spread
+
+01:04:36.820 --> 01:04:38.820
+of a novel virus because they're naive
+
+01:04:38.820 --> 01:04:40.820
+and because the TV
+
+01:04:40.820 --> 01:04:42.820
+and the social media can be used
+
+01:04:42.820 --> 01:04:44.820
+to create an illusion of consensus
+
+01:04:44.820 --> 01:04:46.820
+that not very many people
+
+01:04:46.820 --> 01:04:48.820
+are immune to
+
+01:04:50.820 --> 01:04:52.820
+and so the way they did it
+
+01:04:52.820 --> 01:04:54.820
+it could have been a many many many
+
+01:04:54.820 --> 01:04:56.820
+different things it could have been
+
+01:04:56.820 --> 01:04:58.820
+an endemic background coronavirus
+
+01:04:58.820 --> 01:05:00.820
+and they're just lying
+
+01:05:00.820 --> 01:05:02.820
+because the robustness
+
+01:05:02.820 --> 01:05:04.820
+of the early signals
+
+01:05:04.820 --> 01:05:06.820
+and they're
+
+01:05:06.820 --> 01:05:08.820
+let's say gusto
+
+01:05:08.820 --> 01:05:10.820
+in displaying the
+
+01:05:10.820 --> 01:05:12.820
+apparent fidelity
+
+01:05:12.820 --> 01:05:14.820
+of these early molecular signals
+
+01:05:14.820 --> 01:05:16.820
+leads me to believe
+
+01:05:16.820 --> 01:05:18.820
+that the protocols were murder and
+
+01:05:18.820 --> 01:05:20.820
+transfection is not medicine
+
+01:05:20.820 --> 01:05:22.820
+but it's actually an infectious clone
+
+01:05:22.820 --> 01:05:24.820
+release around the world
+
+01:05:24.820 --> 01:05:26.820
+in many places
+
+01:05:26.820 --> 01:05:28.820
+especially in Iran
+
+01:05:28.820 --> 01:05:30.820
+people or certain
+
+01:05:30.820 --> 01:05:32.820
+certain sentinel cases
+
+01:05:32.820 --> 01:05:34.820
+in places
+
+01:05:34.820 --> 01:05:36.820
+around the world
+
+01:05:36.820 --> 01:05:38.820
+in those sentinel cases
+
+01:05:38.820 --> 01:05:40.820
+that were intended to be sequenced
+
+01:05:40.820 --> 01:05:42.820
+most certainly had
+
+01:05:42.820 --> 01:05:44.820
+the intended viral sequence
+
+01:05:44.820 --> 01:05:46.820
+present because of an infectious clone
+
+01:05:46.820 --> 01:05:48.820
+and
+
+01:05:48.820 --> 01:05:50.820
+that infectious clone included
+
+01:05:50.820 --> 01:05:52.820
+a spike protein that may or may not
+
+01:05:52.820 --> 01:05:54.820
+have been designed to be immunogenic
+
+01:05:54.820 --> 01:05:56.820
+so that when it was applied
+
+01:05:56.820 --> 01:05:58.820
+as an mRNA
+
+01:05:58.820 --> 01:06:00.820
+antigen
+
+01:06:00.820 --> 01:06:02.820
+that it would be effective
+
+01:06:02.820 --> 01:06:04.820
+in generating a robust antibody response
+
+01:06:04.820 --> 01:06:06.820
+and so what better way to do it right
+
+01:06:06.820 --> 01:06:08.820
+you don't want to take any chances
+
+01:06:08.820 --> 01:06:10.820
+so you might as well release
+
+01:06:10.820 --> 01:06:12.820
+an viral clone that has a sequence
+
+01:06:12.820 --> 01:06:14.820
+you've already tested
+
+01:06:14.820 --> 01:06:16.820
+and know
+
+01:06:16.820 --> 01:06:18.820
+at least have a good idea
+
+01:06:18.820 --> 01:06:20.820
+that when you transfect somebody with this
+
+01:06:20.820 --> 01:06:22.820
+you're going to get an antibody response to it
+
+01:06:22.820 --> 01:06:24.820
+that doesn't make it medicine
+
+01:06:24.820 --> 01:06:26.820
+could have been a
+
+01:06:26.820 --> 01:06:28.820
+transfection agent release
+
+01:06:28.820 --> 01:06:30.820
+you could think of an infectious clone as that
+
+01:06:30.820 --> 01:06:32.820
+but you could also think of a
+
+01:06:32.820 --> 01:06:34.820
+transfection agent just carrying the spike protein
+
+01:06:34.820 --> 01:06:36.820
+might be enough
+
+01:06:36.820 --> 01:06:38.820
+aerosolized DNA of the spike protein
+
+01:06:38.820 --> 01:06:40.820
+would definitely be enough to give you
+
+01:06:40.820 --> 01:06:42.820
+a PCR positive
+
+01:06:42.820 --> 01:06:44.820
+but protocols remain murder
+
+01:06:44.820 --> 01:06:46.820
+and transfection is not medicine
+
+01:06:46.820 --> 01:06:48.820
+it could also just be a conflated background
+
+01:06:48.820 --> 01:06:50.820
+signals where the protocols kill
+
+01:06:50.820 --> 01:06:52.820
+there's no release, no spread
+
+01:06:52.820 --> 01:06:54.820
+of a background signal and nobody cares
+
+01:06:54.820 --> 01:06:56.820
+still means that the protocols
+
+01:06:56.820 --> 01:06:58.820
+are murder and transfection is not medicine
+
+01:06:58.820 --> 01:07:00.820
+the people who are saying there are no viruses
+
+01:07:00.820 --> 01:07:04.820
+are just flat out
+
+01:07:04.820 --> 01:07:06.820
+frustrating
+
+01:07:06.820 --> 01:07:08.820
+and I do believe that you have to
+
+01:07:08.820 --> 01:07:10.820
+characterize this as somewhat disingenuous
+
+01:07:10.820 --> 01:07:12.820
+because again there is
+
+01:07:12.820 --> 01:07:14.820
+transfection, there is aerosolized
+
+01:07:14.820 --> 01:07:16.820
+RNA and DNA, there is
+
+01:07:16.820 --> 01:07:18.820
+these applications
+
+01:07:18.820 --> 01:07:20.820
+for the molecular biology that we do
+
+01:07:20.820 --> 01:07:22.820
+know exists
+
+01:07:22.820 --> 01:07:24.820
+and we do know that we can make large quantities
+
+01:07:24.820 --> 01:07:26.820
+of it, we can fill this whole bottle
+
+01:07:26.820 --> 01:07:28.820
+full of spike protein DNA
+
+01:07:28.820 --> 01:07:30.820
+or spike protein RNA
+
+01:07:30.820 --> 01:07:32.820
+if we wanted to
+
+01:07:32.820 --> 01:07:34.820
+and that bottle would be enough to
+
+01:07:34.820 --> 01:07:36.820
+probably
+
+01:07:36.820 --> 01:07:38.820
+transfect people with symptoms
+
+01:07:38.820 --> 01:07:40.820
+and detectable levels of the protein
+
+01:07:40.820 --> 01:07:42.820
+or the DNA or the RNA
+
+01:07:42.820 --> 01:07:44.820
+hundreds or thousands or
+
+01:07:44.820 --> 01:07:46.820
+maybe even hundreds of thousands of people
+
+01:07:46.820 --> 01:07:48.820
+with just this bottle
+
+01:07:48.820 --> 01:07:50.820
+depending on how efficiently you were able to distribute it
+
+01:07:50.820 --> 01:07:52.820
+so the idea that a
+
+01:07:52.820 --> 01:07:54.820
+signal that could be called
+
+01:07:54.820 --> 01:07:56.820
+a pandemic couldn't be created
+
+01:07:56.820 --> 01:07:58.820
+is just absurd, of course it could be created
+
+01:07:58.820 --> 01:08:00.820
+of course that
+
+01:08:00.820 --> 01:08:02.820
+signal
+
+01:08:02.820 --> 01:08:04.820
+where in the hell is my mouse
+
+01:08:04.820 --> 01:08:06.820
+of course that signal could be created
+
+01:08:06.820 --> 01:08:08.820
+the point is, is there a conflated
+
+01:08:08.820 --> 01:08:10.820
+background signal?
+
+01:08:10.820 --> 01:08:12.820
+is there one?
+
+01:08:12.820 --> 01:08:14.820
+how conflated is it?
+
+01:08:14.820 --> 01:08:16.820
+how are we going to solve that problem?
+
+01:08:16.820 --> 01:08:18.820
+I don't know
+
+01:08:18.820 --> 01:08:20.820
+but again I'm calling 911
+
+01:08:20.820 --> 01:08:22.820
+I shouldn't have to explain
+
+01:08:22.820 --> 01:08:24.820
+the motivations of
+
+01:08:24.820 --> 01:08:26.820
+the intruder, I shouldn't have to explain
+
+01:08:26.820 --> 01:08:28.820
+what he's trying to get, what he's doing there
+
+01:08:28.820 --> 01:08:30.820
+or
+
+01:08:30.820 --> 01:08:32.820
+or whatever
+
+01:08:32.820 --> 01:08:34.820
+all I should have is the cops coming
+
+01:08:34.820 --> 01:08:36.820
+and right now we need to call this
+
+01:08:36.820 --> 01:08:38.820
+what it is, protocols for murder,
+
+01:08:38.820 --> 01:08:40.820
+transfection is not medicine, so somebody's in trouble
+
+01:08:40.820 --> 01:08:42.820
+for this because they knew this
+
+01:08:42.820 --> 01:08:44.820
+already a long time ago
+
+01:08:44.820 --> 01:08:46.820
+I actually think a lot of the performers
+
+01:08:46.820 --> 01:08:48.820
+knew this a long time ago
+
+01:08:50.820 --> 01:08:52.820
+a lot of the performers
+
+01:08:52.820 --> 01:08:54.820
+knew this a long time ago
+
+01:08:54.820 --> 01:08:56.820
+but their job is to change our mind
+
+01:08:56.820 --> 01:08:58.820
+about this stuff and more importantly
+
+01:08:58.820 --> 01:09:00.820
+their job is not to question the faith
+
+01:09:00.820 --> 01:09:02.820
+their job is not to question
+
+01:09:02.820 --> 01:09:04.820
+the pandemic potential
+
+01:09:04.820 --> 01:09:06.820
+of viruses in mother nature
+
+01:09:06.820 --> 01:09:08.820
+is the greatest bioterrorist
+
+01:09:08.820 --> 01:09:10.820
+they're definitely not supposed to question
+
+01:09:10.820 --> 01:09:12.820
+the possibilities and potentials
+
+01:09:12.820 --> 01:09:14.820
+that are accessible in cell culture
+
+01:09:14.820 --> 01:09:16.820
+or in animal passage
+
+01:09:16.820 --> 01:09:18.820
+and nobody can question the potential
+
+01:09:18.820 --> 01:09:20.820
+that's
+
+01:09:20.820 --> 01:09:22.820
+available with CRISPR, CAS9
+
+01:09:22.820 --> 01:09:24.820
+and all these other fancy techniques
+
+01:09:24.820 --> 01:09:26.820
+that we can use to stitch viruses
+
+01:09:26.820 --> 01:09:28.820
+together from scratch
+
+01:09:28.820 --> 01:09:32.820
+and they won't question this mythology
+
+01:09:32.820 --> 01:09:34.820
+because they are part of a movement
+
+01:09:34.820 --> 01:09:36.820
+which is designed to get rid of
+
+01:09:36.820 --> 01:09:38.820
+national borders
+
+01:09:38.820 --> 01:09:40.820
+to get rid of individual sovereignty
+
+01:09:40.820 --> 01:09:42.820
+to get rid of sovereignty
+
+01:09:42.820 --> 01:09:44.820
+of parents
+
+01:09:44.820 --> 01:09:46.820
+and their kids
+
+01:09:46.820 --> 01:09:48.820
+that that that's sovereignty of the family
+
+01:09:48.820 --> 01:09:50.820
+they're trying to get rid of all of that
+
+01:09:50.820 --> 01:09:52.820
+in the name of public health
+
+01:09:54.820 --> 01:09:56.820
+because you're too dumb to know
+
+01:09:56.820 --> 01:09:58.820
+and because this this is way too
+
+01:09:58.820 --> 01:10:00.820
+freaking dangerous
+
+01:10:00.820 --> 01:10:02.820
+and that's what they want you to believe
+
+01:10:02.820 --> 01:10:04.820
+so that you'll surrender
+
+01:10:04.820 --> 01:10:06.820
+they want you to think
+
+01:10:06.820 --> 01:10:08.820
+holy man
+
+01:10:08.820 --> 01:10:10.820
+people like Peter Desak
+
+01:10:10.820 --> 01:10:12.820
+I mean
+
+01:10:12.820 --> 01:10:14.820
+I don't want to trust Bill Gates either
+
+01:10:14.820 --> 01:10:16.820
+but I mean come on
+
+01:10:16.820 --> 01:10:18.820
+if you have to choose between those two guys
+
+01:10:18.820 --> 01:10:20.820
+I'll trust Bill Gates any day
+
+01:10:20.820 --> 01:10:22.820
+give me a vaccine
+
+01:10:22.820 --> 01:10:24.820
+that's what they want you to think
+
+01:10:24.820 --> 01:10:26.820
+that's how scared they want you to be
+
+01:10:26.820 --> 01:10:28.820
+that's why they changed
+
+01:10:28.820 --> 01:10:30.820
+how you think about
+
+01:10:30.820 --> 01:10:32.820
+a coronavirus swarm
+
+01:10:32.820 --> 01:10:34.820
+and they all cause mortality
+
+01:10:34.820 --> 01:10:36.820
+and respiratory virus
+
+01:10:36.820 --> 01:10:38.820
+in response to it as well as vaccines
+
+01:10:38.820 --> 01:10:40.820
+so that they could ventilate people
+
+01:10:40.820 --> 01:10:42.820
+and you wouldn't say anything
+
+01:10:42.820 --> 01:10:44.820
+so they could roll out a brand new thing
+
+01:10:44.820 --> 01:10:46.820
+called Remdesivir
+
+01:10:46.820 --> 01:10:48.820
+and nobody would question it
+
+01:10:48.820 --> 01:10:50.820
+and that's why Robert Malone said
+
+01:10:50.820 --> 01:10:52.820
+it was a rabbit hole he didn't want to go down
+
+01:10:52.820 --> 01:10:54.820
+in August of 2021
+
+01:10:54.820 --> 01:10:56.820
+when he could have spoke out
+
+01:10:56.820 --> 01:10:58.820
+against Remdesivir
+
+01:10:58.820 --> 01:11:00.820
+and ended all those deaths
+
+01:11:00.820 --> 01:11:02.820
+those people who were still going to receive
+
+01:11:02.820 --> 01:11:04.820
+Remdesivir for another year
+
+01:11:04.820 --> 01:11:06.820
+but he didn't because it was a rabbit
+
+01:11:06.820 --> 01:11:08.820
+all he didn't want to go down
+
+01:11:08.820 --> 01:11:10.820
+and dexamethasone is another way
+
+01:11:10.820 --> 01:11:12.820
+to blow up the numbers
+
+01:11:12.820 --> 01:11:14.820
+by the way
+
+01:11:14.820 --> 01:11:16.820
+why would they want to blow up the numbers Robert
+
+01:11:20.820 --> 01:11:22.820
+so they lied to us
+
+01:11:22.820 --> 01:11:24.820
+about the PCR being able to
+
+01:11:24.820 --> 01:11:28.820
+detect a dangerous novel virus
+
+01:11:28.820 --> 01:11:30.820
+and they made people
+
+01:11:30.820 --> 01:11:32.820
+follow these orders with
+
+01:11:32.820 --> 01:11:34.820
+financial incentives
+
+01:11:34.820 --> 01:11:36.820
+that included, you know,
+
+01:11:36.820 --> 01:11:38.820
+bonuses for people that were ventilated
+
+01:11:38.820 --> 01:11:40.820
+and bonuses for deaths
+
+01:11:40.820 --> 01:11:42.820
+there was an RNA infectious clone
+
+01:11:42.820 --> 01:11:44.820
+that was likely used to see the sequence
+
+01:11:44.820 --> 01:11:46.820
+in certain places
+
+01:11:46.820 --> 01:11:48.820
+so that a spike protein
+
+01:11:48.820 --> 01:11:50.820
+of their choice could be used
+
+01:11:50.820 --> 01:11:52.820
+as the vaccine target
+
+01:11:52.820 --> 01:11:54.820
+or vaccine candidate
+
+01:11:54.820 --> 01:11:56.820
+and I think there has been a plan
+
+01:11:56.820 --> 01:11:58.820
+all along
+
+01:11:58.820 --> 01:12:00.820
+to surrender our individual sovereignty
+
+01:12:00.820 --> 01:12:02.820
+to force a global fundamental
+
+01:12:02.820 --> 01:12:04.820
+inversion from basic human rights
+
+01:12:04.820 --> 01:12:06.820
+to basic granted permissions
+
+01:12:06.820 --> 01:12:08.820
+because we are at a time point
+
+01:12:08.820 --> 01:12:10.820
+where human diversity is at its peak
+
+01:12:10.820 --> 01:12:12.820
+for all time
+
+01:12:12.820 --> 01:12:14.820
+there will never be more genetic diversity
+
+01:12:14.820 --> 01:12:16.820
+available again so they need to collect it
+
+01:12:16.820 --> 01:12:18.820
+that's why they need to change the minds
+
+01:12:18.820 --> 01:12:20.820
+of the young
+
+01:12:20.820 --> 01:12:22.820
+they're specifically after young people
+
+01:12:22.820 --> 01:12:24.820
+they're not after people like me
+
+01:12:24.820 --> 01:12:26.820
+they're 51 years old
+
+01:12:26.820 --> 01:12:28.820
+they're not after people like me
+
+01:12:28.820 --> 01:12:30.820
+they're after my kids kids
+
+01:12:30.820 --> 01:12:32.820
+if they can convince
+
+01:12:32.820 --> 01:12:34.820
+my 14 year old son
+
+01:12:34.820 --> 01:12:36.820
+that his dad's nuts and the diseases
+
+01:12:36.820 --> 01:12:38.820
+are real
+
+01:12:38.820 --> 01:12:40.820
+and the genetics are way beyond him
+
+01:12:40.820 --> 01:12:42.820
+and he might as well turn his over
+
+01:12:42.820 --> 01:12:44.820
+then he'll grow up
+
+01:12:44.820 --> 01:12:46.820
+into a digital prison that he'll never be able
+
+01:12:46.820 --> 01:12:48.820
+to escape and might even not even realize
+
+01:12:48.820 --> 01:12:50.820
+is there
+
+01:12:50.820 --> 01:12:52.820
+because it'll govern his behavior
+
+01:12:52.820 --> 01:12:54.820
+in every part of his life
+
+01:12:54.820 --> 01:12:56.820
+even to the point of deciding when
+
+01:12:56.820 --> 01:12:58.820
+many kids he can have
+
+01:12:58.820 --> 01:13:00.820
+that's the plan
+
+01:13:00.820 --> 01:13:02.820
+that's the plan ladies and gentlemen
+
+01:13:02.820 --> 01:13:04.820
+the plan is to collect
+
+01:13:04.820 --> 01:13:06.820
+2 billion genomes in the next 10 years
+
+01:13:06.820 --> 01:13:08.820
+and all of the data associated with them
+
+01:13:08.820 --> 01:13:10.820
+they want it to be normal
+
+01:13:10.820 --> 01:13:12.820
+for us to just give all of our data
+
+01:13:12.820 --> 01:13:14.820
+from birth
+
+01:13:14.820 --> 01:13:16.820
+because you know I mean it's good for the community
+
+01:13:16.820 --> 01:13:18.820
+it's good for the country
+
+01:13:18.820 --> 01:13:20.820
+it's good for everybody
+
+01:13:22.820 --> 01:13:24.820
+ladies and gentlemen you can find me
+
+01:13:24.820 --> 01:13:26.820
+at gigalombio.com
+
+01:13:26.820 --> 01:13:30.820
+and that's here
+
+01:13:30.820 --> 01:13:32.820
+up at the top
+
+01:13:32.820 --> 01:13:34.820
+gigalomb.bio
+
+01:13:34.820 --> 01:13:36.820
+and you can also find me
+
+01:13:36.820 --> 01:13:38.820
+at gigalombiological.com
+
+01:13:38.820 --> 01:13:42.820
+I think
+
+01:13:42.820 --> 01:13:44.820
+yes, transfection is not immunization
+
+01:13:44.820 --> 01:13:46.820
+intramuscular injection
+
+01:13:46.820 --> 01:13:48.820
+of any combination of substances
+
+01:13:48.820 --> 01:13:50.820
+to augment the immune system is pretty dumb
+
+01:13:50.820 --> 01:13:52.820
+and I believe that wholeheartedly
+
+01:13:52.820 --> 01:13:54.820
+I think over the next few years
+
+01:13:54.820 --> 01:13:56.820
+that's going to be the main job
+
+01:13:56.820 --> 01:13:58.820
+that we have is trying to convince people
+
+01:13:58.820 --> 01:14:00.820
+that this is not a crazy idea
+
+01:14:00.820 --> 01:14:02.820
+but it's something that we should have come to a long time ago
+
+01:14:02.820 --> 01:14:04.820
+please stop all transfections
+
+01:14:04.820 --> 01:14:06.820
+and humans because they're trying to eliminate
+
+01:14:06.820 --> 01:14:08.820
+the control group by any means
+
+01:14:08.820 --> 01:14:10.820
+necessary
+
+01:14:10.820 --> 01:14:12.820
+this has been gigalombiological
+
+01:14:12.820 --> 01:14:14.820
+high-resistance low noise information stream
+
+01:14:14.820 --> 01:14:16.820
+brought to you by a biologist
+
+01:14:16.820 --> 01:14:18.820
+I'm just a big shout out to the
+
+01:14:18.820 --> 01:14:20.820
+Broken Science Initiative
+
+01:14:20.820 --> 01:14:22.820
+the live release glitched out
+
+01:14:22.820 --> 01:14:24.820
+of the doctors and scientists
+
+01:14:24.820 --> 01:14:26.820
+interview that I did with Brian Hooker
+
+01:14:26.820 --> 01:14:28.820
+but they fixed it
+
+01:14:28.820 --> 01:14:30.820
+and it's up now and
+
+01:14:30.820 --> 01:14:32.820
+I guess I can probably find that link
+
+01:14:32.820 --> 01:14:34.820
+really quick
+
+01:14:34.820 --> 01:14:36.820
+I bet I can find it really quick
+
+01:14:36.820 --> 01:14:40.820
+let's see where it is
+
+01:14:46.820 --> 01:14:48.820
+here it is
+
+01:14:48.820 --> 01:14:50.820
+oh Christy you beat me
+
+01:14:50.820 --> 01:14:52.820
+you demon
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+01:14:52.820 --> 01:14:54.820
+how did you do that
+
+01:14:54.820 --> 01:14:56.820
+wow Christy beat me to the link
+
+01:14:56.820 --> 01:14:58.820
+that's really fast
+
+01:14:58.820 --> 01:15:00.820
+okay thanks very much for joining me guys
+
+01:15:00.820 --> 01:15:02.820
+I will see you again tomorrow
+
+01:15:02.820 --> 01:15:04.820
+tomorrow's Saturday
+
+01:15:04.820 --> 01:15:06.820
+that I'll try to be on
+
+01:15:06.820 --> 01:15:08.820
+my friend
+
+01:15:08.820 --> 01:15:10.820
+just Janarito in the chat
+
+01:15:10.820 --> 01:15:12.820
+just clued me into a person
+
+01:15:12.820 --> 01:15:16.820
+who apparently is an old school
+
+01:15:16.820 --> 01:15:18.820
+a lot of the stuff that goes on
+
+01:15:18.820 --> 01:15:20.820
+in the FDA in the early years
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+01:15:20.820 --> 01:15:22.820
+and
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+01:15:22.820 --> 01:15:24.820
+I'm looking forward
+
+01:15:24.820 --> 01:15:26.820
+to
+
+01:15:26.820 --> 01:15:28.820
+watching a couple of these
+
+01:15:28.820 --> 01:15:30.820
+videos
+
+01:15:30.820 --> 01:15:32.820
+it looks like the guy's name is
+
+01:15:32.820 --> 01:15:34.820
+Peter Huber
+
+01:15:34.820 --> 01:15:36.820
+so I think tomorrow
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+01:15:36.820 --> 01:15:38.820
+we're going to watch a video
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+01:15:38.820 --> 01:15:40.820
+by Peter Huber
+
+01:15:40.820 --> 01:15:42.820
+who's going to be talking about
+
+01:15:42.820 --> 01:15:44.820
+personalized medicine in the 21st century
+
+01:15:44.820 --> 01:15:46.820
+I'm going to look up some stuff about him
+
+01:15:46.820 --> 01:15:48.820
+before I get to that tomorrow
+
+01:15:48.820 --> 01:15:50.820
+thanks very much guys
+
+01:15:50.820 --> 01:15:52.820
+I'll see you again have a great night
+
+01:16:14.820 --> 01:16:16.820
+you
+
+01:16:44.820 --> 01:16:46.820
+you
+
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+WEBVTT
+
+02:00.000 --> 02:21.480
+And drop in a link to that new video, Mark, drop in a link to that new video of you posted,
+
+02:21.480 --> 02:22.480
+please.
+
+02:23.480 --> 02:29.480
+If you're not following Houston on a glib, you need to get off your, you know what,
+
+02:29.480 --> 02:30.480
+and figure it out.
+
+02:30.480 --> 02:37.980
+The last couple of days have been gigantic.
+
+02:37.980 --> 02:46.400
+We got to get our, we got to get this message out, ladies and gentlemen, if the fire is hot,
+
+02:46.400 --> 02:48.880
+the steady pressure is working.
+
+02:48.880 --> 02:53.880
+I know I'm late tonight, but I believe we are well over two weeks straight.
+
+02:53.880 --> 02:54.880
+I don't know.
+
+02:54.880 --> 02:55.880
+It could even be three.
+
+02:55.880 --> 02:57.880
+We're getting close to three weeks straight.
+
+02:57.880 --> 02:59.880
+You scheduled for 16 minutes next.
+
+02:59.880 --> 03:00.880
+He's going on French.
+
+03:00.880 --> 03:03.880
+Drop a link in the chat, Mark, you mark.
+
+03:03.880 --> 03:04.880
+Japanese televisions.
+
+03:04.880 --> 03:05.880
+Smooth and tronic.
+
+03:05.880 --> 03:09.880
+People everywhere are starting to listen to him.
+
+03:09.880 --> 03:10.880
+It's embarrassing.
+
+03:18.880 --> 03:22.880
+Teenage sleuths solved bone hijacking mystery.
+
+03:22.880 --> 03:23.880
+Test one two.
+
+03:23.880 --> 03:25.880
+That's not too loud.
+
+03:25.880 --> 03:26.880
+Test one two.
+
+03:26.880 --> 03:27.880
+Some plan they had.
+
+03:27.880 --> 03:33.880
+First spreading the phony story about cover, and then feeling the yachts from the marina.
+
+03:33.880 --> 03:38.880
+That night on the beach, color was storing extra scuba tanks in the graveyard of the ship.
+
+03:38.880 --> 03:46.880
+Yeah, but like his diving suit got covered with that kooky glowing seaweed.
+
+03:46.880 --> 03:49.880
+And that's where the glowing ghost story came from.
+
+03:49.880 --> 03:51.880
+Well, that close is the mystery.
+
+03:58.880 --> 04:00.880
+How did scuba do with that?
+
+04:00.880 --> 04:03.880
+I guess that's another mystery.
+
+04:17.880 --> 04:33.880
+Music
+
+04:33.880 --> 04:34.880
+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+04:34.880 --> 04:39.880
+This is Giga Home Biological, a high-resistance, low-noise information brief brought to you by a biologist.
+
+04:39.880 --> 04:45.880
+It's the 23rd of September, 2023.
+
+04:46.880 --> 04:49.880
+I believe it's much more likely it's elaborate.
+
+04:49.880 --> 04:53.880
+Oh, ships, what's going on here?
+
+04:53.880 --> 04:55.880
+Some kind of freak out.
+
+04:55.880 --> 04:58.880
+There we go.
+
+04:58.880 --> 05:01.880
+There was no spread in New York City, I don't think.
+
+05:01.880 --> 05:04.880
+The infectious clones, yeah, they're real.
+
+05:04.880 --> 05:07.880
+The placebo batches, they're real.
+
+05:07.880 --> 05:14.880
+And the transfection, yeah, it's always been a tool that wasn't really intended for healthy animals.
+
+05:14.880 --> 05:18.880
+I don't know what to tell you.
+
+05:18.880 --> 05:21.880
+Breaker, breaker, one-nine, protocols were murdered.
+
+05:21.880 --> 05:24.880
+Again, a function is a mythology, and the scuba do is real.
+
+05:24.880 --> 05:27.880
+They're liars.
+
+05:27.880 --> 05:32.880
+This is Giga Home Biological.
+
+05:32.880 --> 05:35.880
+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+05:35.880 --> 05:37.880
+Welcome to the show.
+
+05:37.880 --> 05:41.880
+This is Giga Home Biological, a high-resistance, low-noise information brief brought to you by a biologist
+
+05:41.880 --> 05:45.880
+and the people that are streaming there above my head.
+
+05:45.880 --> 05:50.880
+If you would like to support the work of this stream, first and foremost,
+
+05:50.880 --> 05:55.880
+do something that almost nobody does and share this stream.
+
+05:55.880 --> 06:01.880
+I am gainfully employed at the moment as a staff scientist at Children's Health Defense,
+
+06:01.880 --> 06:09.880
+and although I speak for myself and for my little LLC in the back of my garage here on Giga Home Biological,
+
+06:09.880 --> 06:16.880
+it means that I don't need to beg for money except for in the sense of how much more of this can I do
+
+06:16.880 --> 06:20.880
+and how much more independent could I be.
+
+06:20.880 --> 06:27.880
+I'm not against going completely on my own in a year from now and trying to do something on my own
+
+06:27.880 --> 06:33.880
+and maybe raising money for that, but for now, what we need is this thing out there.
+
+06:33.880 --> 06:37.880
+And I have all of these friends above that are supporting me
+
+06:37.880 --> 06:41.880
+and they're supporting me because they've been supporting me for a long time
+
+06:41.880 --> 06:48.880
+and it's those little things that keep everything going here, make it possible to have birthday gifts
+
+06:48.880 --> 06:51.880
+and things like that that are a little bit better than normal.
+
+06:51.880 --> 06:58.880
+And along before that, it was actually putting food on the table and paying my rent.
+
+06:58.880 --> 07:03.880
+So a lot of those names that are up there are not necessarily giving what they used to be giving
+
+07:03.880 --> 07:07.880
+and some of them have been giving only a little bit for a very long time.
+
+07:07.880 --> 07:11.880
+The point is the stream needs sharing.
+
+07:11.880 --> 07:14.880
+Mark's work needs sharing.
+
+07:14.880 --> 07:16.880
+That's how this wins.
+
+07:16.880 --> 07:20.880
+That's how we get this over the finish line is more people need to see it.
+
+07:20.880 --> 07:25.880
+Share my CHD stream with Brian Hooker from the other day, please.
+
+07:25.880 --> 07:30.880
+It's a really decent representation of our work here
+
+07:30.880 --> 07:33.880
+and what we've been doing together for so long.
+
+07:33.880 --> 07:36.880
+And it's not a bad way for people to be introduced to me.
+
+07:36.880 --> 07:38.880
+We don't talk about the virus at all.
+
+07:38.880 --> 07:43.880
+So it's a real safe kind of intro into who is Jonathan Cooey.
+
+07:43.880 --> 07:48.880
+And so please share it and share this stream because, again,
+
+07:48.880 --> 07:53.880
+we're really trying to bust our hump here to be here every night
+
+07:53.880 --> 07:56.880
+and make sure that we keep steady pressure on this because I think it's actually working.
+
+07:56.880 --> 07:59.880
+The sand castle is starting to melt.
+
+07:59.880 --> 08:04.880
+So please don't take the bait on TV or social media.
+
+08:04.880 --> 08:05.880
+The bait is going to get worse.
+
+08:05.880 --> 08:07.880
+I can guarantee it.
+
+08:07.880 --> 08:10.880
+I am especially insulated from it.
+
+08:10.880 --> 08:12.880
+Transfection is not immunization.
+
+08:12.880 --> 08:14.880
+If you want to be a little more fancy about it,
+
+08:14.880 --> 08:17.880
+you can say that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances
+
+08:17.880 --> 08:20.880
+with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
+
+08:21.880 --> 08:26.880
+I'm actually pretty excited about the fact that I feel confident.
+
+08:26.880 --> 08:28.880
+Oh, I didn't check my camera.
+
+08:28.880 --> 08:29.880
+I was not on.
+
+08:29.880 --> 08:30.880
+I should have been on like this.
+
+08:30.880 --> 08:35.880
+I feel pretty confident now that our steady pressure is working
+
+08:35.880 --> 08:39.880
+in terms of having some effect on people's behavior,
+
+08:39.880 --> 08:42.880
+effect on their rhetoric,
+
+08:42.880 --> 08:46.880
+and maybe even influencing relationships behind the scenes
+
+08:46.880 --> 08:50.880
+and weakening the once, I would say,
+
+08:50.880 --> 08:54.880
+pretty good stronghold on the dissident movement
+
+08:54.880 --> 08:59.880
+and the thinking of dissonance within the movement.
+
+08:59.880 --> 09:04.880
+It wasn't too long ago that the sort of thing
+
+09:04.880 --> 09:08.880
+that everybody was repeating was that we don't want to cause any division
+
+09:08.880 --> 09:11.880
+and we have to try to stay together.
+
+09:12.880 --> 09:16.880
+At the same time, doing world tours all around the United States
+
+09:16.880 --> 09:21.880
+and Europe telling us about fifth generation warfare
+
+09:21.880 --> 09:23.880
+that we could never figure out.
+
+09:25.880 --> 09:29.880
+These people did actually change the way that we think about things.
+
+09:29.880 --> 09:33.880
+Very specifically, they changed the way that we think about our biology
+
+09:33.880 --> 09:38.880
+and our biology of our population, but also our biology as individuals.
+
+09:39.880 --> 09:41.880
+And changing the way that we think about that biology
+
+09:41.880 --> 09:44.880
+and our responsibility for it,
+
+09:44.880 --> 09:47.880
+changing the way that we think about this biology
+
+09:47.880 --> 09:51.880
+and a doctor's responsibility for it,
+
+09:51.880 --> 09:54.880
+allowed people to be ventilated that didn't need to be ventilated
+
+09:54.880 --> 09:58.880
+and allowed a poison like Remdesivir to be used en masse
+
+09:58.880 --> 10:02.880
+in the United States, especially at certain hospitals
+
+10:02.880 --> 10:05.880
+where the CDC and federal protocols
+
+10:05.880 --> 10:08.880
+could be more strictly enforced.
+
+10:08.880 --> 10:11.880
+Make no mistake about it, ladies and gentlemen,
+
+10:11.880 --> 10:14.880
+we are making accusations of iatrogenic murder.
+
+10:14.880 --> 10:16.880
+You want to call it genocide.
+
+10:16.880 --> 10:19.880
+I don't think it's a really good idea because it turns
+
+10:19.880 --> 10:24.880
+the mouth-breathing TV watchers, their brains turn off.
+
+10:24.880 --> 10:29.880
+They've already been programmed not to really compute that word
+
+10:29.880 --> 10:32.880
+unless it's said by someone on the TV.
+
+10:32.880 --> 10:36.880
+And so I think it's better just to call it iatrogenic murder,
+
+10:36.880 --> 10:38.880
+hospitalized murder.
+
+10:42.880 --> 10:46.880
+And this control of our discussion over the last three years
+
+10:46.880 --> 10:48.880
+has really worn us down.
+
+10:48.880 --> 10:53.880
+It's really worn us down as we've watched these actors
+
+10:53.880 --> 10:56.880
+pretend to try and argue their way out of this,
+
+10:56.880 --> 11:00.880
+or argue our way out of this, or sue our way out of this,
+
+11:00.880 --> 11:03.880
+or bring a criminal case to get our way out of this,
+
+11:03.880 --> 11:07.880
+or be a whistleblower to get our way out of this,
+
+11:07.880 --> 11:11.880
+or to leak a document and get our way out of this,
+
+11:11.880 --> 11:14.880
+all to solve the puzzle of who made this virus,
+
+11:14.880 --> 11:17.880
+who's responsible for it,
+
+11:17.880 --> 11:22.880
+as if it's possible to release an RNA sequence on the floor,
+
+11:22.880 --> 11:24.880
+on the bottom of somebody's shoe,
+
+11:24.880 --> 11:29.880
+or in an animal at a wet market,
+
+11:30.880 --> 11:33.880
+and that could result in a pandemic,
+
+11:33.880 --> 11:36.880
+where a single RNA sequence,
+
+11:36.880 --> 11:38.880
+or let's say a thousand of them,
+
+11:38.880 --> 11:41.880
+decide to cover the planet.
+
+11:41.880 --> 11:43.880
+It just didn't happen, ladies and gentlemen,
+
+11:43.880 --> 11:47.880
+and you've been fooled into believing that this mystery is worth solving.
+
+11:47.880 --> 11:50.880
+And in so coming to solve that mystery,
+
+11:50.880 --> 11:53.880
+you've been fooled into believing that there's pandemic potential
+
+11:53.880 --> 11:57.880
+in bad caves, in petri dishes, in animal cultures,
+
+11:57.880 --> 12:01.880
+and in the genetic tools and toolboxes
+
+12:01.880 --> 12:04.880
+of molecular biologists all around the world.
+
+12:04.880 --> 12:08.880
+And you've been led to believe this in order that your fear,
+
+12:08.880 --> 12:10.880
+uncertainty and doubt,
+
+12:10.880 --> 12:14.880
+will convince you that the convenience of a digital ID
+
+12:14.880 --> 12:17.880
+and digital currency is worth it,
+
+12:17.880 --> 12:19.880
+given the fact that, well, you know,
+
+12:19.880 --> 12:22.880
+we've got all these diseases we might as well keep track of people.
+
+12:22.880 --> 12:29.880
+That's what this controlled descent is all about,
+
+12:29.880 --> 12:32.880
+is to make sure that even though we're resisting,
+
+12:32.880 --> 12:35.880
+we walk right into the avatar.
+
+12:35.880 --> 12:39.880
+And the way that happens is if you don't understand
+
+12:39.880 --> 12:44.880
+that the potential for RNA viruses to pandemic
+
+12:44.880 --> 12:48.880
+has been grossly over-exaggerated,
+
+12:48.880 --> 12:51.880
+you must understand this.
+
+12:51.880 --> 12:57.880
+And SARS-CoV-2 is not some molecular exception to this rule.
+
+12:57.880 --> 13:02.880
+It is exactly the opposite of that.
+
+13:02.880 --> 13:08.880
+It is a mythology based around the idea that this rule doesn't exist,
+
+13:08.880 --> 13:10.880
+that this limit doesn't exist,
+
+13:10.880 --> 13:15.880
+that this biology isn't better understood than it is.
+
+13:15.880 --> 13:18.880
+These people have wholly lied about the ability of PCR
+
+13:18.880 --> 13:20.880
+to detect this thing,
+
+13:20.880 --> 13:25.880
+and they've wholly lied about its potential to hurt everyone.
+
+13:25.880 --> 13:27.880
+And the people who are in on this narrative
+
+13:27.880 --> 13:31.880
+are perpetuating the idea that the virus and its effects
+
+13:31.880 --> 13:34.880
+grossly exceed that of any mistakes that would have been made
+
+13:34.880 --> 13:37.880
+by the humans trying to do their best.
+
+13:37.880 --> 13:39.880
+Let me repeat that.
+
+13:39.880 --> 13:43.880
+None of these people that are perpetuating this narrative
+
+13:43.880 --> 13:47.880
+will step out of bounds with regard to the idea
+
+13:47.880 --> 13:51.880
+that the virus is responsible for orders of magnitude
+
+13:51.880 --> 13:55.880
+more damage than any of the mistakes made by the people
+
+13:55.880 --> 14:00.880
+trying their best to solve the problem that was the novel virus.
+
+14:00.880 --> 14:04.880
+That's the central myth of this mythology.
+
+14:04.880 --> 14:08.880
+That's the central myth that most of the people in this red triangle
+
+14:08.880 --> 14:11.880
+are still sustaining.
+
+14:11.880 --> 14:16.880
+And I'm being very generous when I slide Bobby underneath that red line.
+
+14:16.880 --> 14:20.880
+I'm actually being quite generous with Sucred Bhagti as well
+
+14:20.880 --> 14:22.880
+because he considers himself a virologist
+
+14:22.880 --> 14:25.880
+and he has no doubt that there was one.
+
+14:25.880 --> 14:29.880
+And so he still needs a little more convincing from Denny
+
+14:29.880 --> 14:33.880
+and from Mike Eden and others.
+
+14:33.880 --> 14:36.880
+But the rest of these people in one way or another,
+
+14:36.880 --> 14:39.880
+they know what they're up to because they got a phone call
+
+14:39.880 --> 14:42.880
+that told them what to talk about.
+
+14:42.880 --> 14:48.880
+Nobody just becomes famous on substacks spontaneously.
+
+14:48.880 --> 14:52.880
+Nobody just is censored on LinkedIn
+
+14:52.880 --> 14:54.880
+but then gets to cry about it on Twitter
+
+14:54.880 --> 14:59.880
+and then start a whole new set of social media tools
+
+14:59.880 --> 15:02.880
+like Telegram and GAB and then come back to Twitter
+
+15:02.880 --> 15:08.880
+in a ticker tape parade and call that censorship.
+
+15:08.880 --> 15:12.880
+That's all of us being led around by our nose.
+
+15:12.880 --> 15:14.880
+Real censorship's silence.
+
+15:14.880 --> 15:17.880
+Real censorship is being on Twitch
+
+15:17.880 --> 15:22.880
+and having only 2,700 followers for about a year.
+
+15:22.880 --> 15:25.880
+Real censorship is being on YouTube
+
+15:25.880 --> 15:29.880
+and having 6,000 followers for four or five years
+
+15:29.880 --> 15:35.880
+after four or five years of putting out videos.
+
+15:35.880 --> 15:38.880
+Real censorship is losing channels, you know?
+
+15:38.880 --> 15:42.880
+Not losing my monetization
+
+15:42.880 --> 15:44.880
+and then being able to go all around the internet
+
+15:44.880 --> 15:51.880
+and cry about it like Russell Brandt is doing right now.
+
+15:51.880 --> 15:54.880
+And so I've been trying to make maps of these people
+
+15:54.880 --> 15:58.880
+and try to make it a little more friendly to think about
+
+15:58.880 --> 16:01.880
+and I'm thinking about it more like a map, like a puzzle
+
+16:01.880 --> 16:03.880
+where pieces move around
+
+16:03.880 --> 16:06.880
+and as we learn things about people
+
+16:06.880 --> 16:08.880
+and move those pieces around
+
+16:08.880 --> 16:10.880
+because they're connected to other pieces,
+
+16:10.880 --> 16:13.880
+sometimes we learn a lot when one person talks
+
+16:13.880 --> 16:17.880
+and I find it really important, Robert Malone.
+
+16:17.880 --> 16:19.880
+Robert Malone is really important.
+
+16:19.880 --> 16:25.880
+I don't know why, but he's involved in everything.
+
+16:25.880 --> 16:30.880
+And it bothers me a lot that we're not a little bit more aware
+
+16:30.880 --> 16:32.880
+of how bad this is.
+
+16:32.880 --> 16:34.880
+And last night and the night before
+
+16:34.880 --> 16:36.880
+were some really big nights
+
+16:36.880 --> 16:41.880
+for figuring out what's going on here.
+
+16:41.880 --> 16:45.880
+I looked at a video that was only 20 minutes long
+
+16:45.880 --> 16:53.880
+and the host of it was the Enlightenment Radio Network.
+
+16:53.880 --> 16:57.880
+The people that were talking were Dr. Paul Catrell,
+
+16:57.880 --> 16:59.880
+Dr. Busrider MD,
+
+16:59.880 --> 17:02.880
+and Dr. Robert Malone,
+
+17:02.880 --> 17:05.880
+disambiguation wizard,
+
+17:05.880 --> 17:09.880
+and self-proclaimed inventor of all vaccination
+
+17:09.880 --> 17:13.880
+that has to do with genetics.
+
+17:13.880 --> 17:15.880
+And in this discussion, he sent a couple things
+
+17:15.880 --> 17:19.880
+that were pretty inflammatory for me and for Mark,
+
+17:19.880 --> 17:22.880
+one of which was that dexamethasone is a drug
+
+17:22.880 --> 17:26.880
+that could be easily used to drive up the kill rate of the virus,
+
+17:26.880 --> 17:28.880
+ha ha ha.
+
+17:28.880 --> 17:30.880
+And that remdesivir was also something
+
+17:30.880 --> 17:32.880
+that wasn't living up to its rep,
+
+17:32.880 --> 17:37.880
+and it was a rabbit hole that they didn't want to go down.
+
+17:37.880 --> 17:39.880
+So basically in a couple sentences,
+
+17:39.880 --> 17:42.880
+they admitted that there's a real big chance
+
+17:42.880 --> 17:45.880
+that the protocols are screwing people up pretty rapidly.
+
+17:45.880 --> 17:47.880
+And it's not that big a deal,
+
+17:47.880 --> 17:50.880
+because actually maybe people would be doing that on purpose.
+
+17:50.880 --> 17:52.880
+The only reason why he would know that, of course,
+
+17:52.880 --> 17:55.880
+is that he was round when that was done for the AIDS virus.
+
+17:55.880 --> 17:59.880
+But we're not going to go there right now.
+
+17:59.880 --> 18:02.880
+I think it's really important for everybody to see this.
+
+18:02.880 --> 18:04.880
+The MMR and Dr. Wakefield.
+
+18:04.880 --> 18:07.880
+The reason I mention this is you've had the...
+
+18:07.880 --> 18:11.880
+your change in kind of view around vaccines in general
+
+18:11.880 --> 18:15.880
+has also coincided with your...
+
+18:15.880 --> 18:17.880
+I don't know if it's a real acquaintance with
+
+18:17.880 --> 18:20.880
+or an acquaintance with the case of Wakefield.
+
+18:20.880 --> 18:23.880
+So for the Brits here, just to hear this from you,
+
+18:23.880 --> 18:25.880
+do you think he was perhaps right all along?
+
+18:25.880 --> 18:27.880
+I think he was right all along,
+
+18:27.880 --> 18:30.880
+and I think he will be vindicated, absolutely.
+
+18:30.880 --> 18:31.880
+Wow.
+
+18:31.880 --> 18:32.880
+So do you agree with Tess then?
+
+18:32.880 --> 18:33.880
+Have you...
+
+18:33.880 --> 18:34.880
+Has your...
+
+18:34.880 --> 18:35.880
+So my view has changed.
+
+18:35.880 --> 18:36.880
+Now I can tell you,
+
+18:36.880 --> 18:39.880
+if I was a young parent today,
+
+18:39.880 --> 18:43.880
+what I would do is I would forgo the vaccines.
+
+18:43.880 --> 18:44.880
+I'm not an anti-vaxxer.
+
+18:44.880 --> 18:45.880
+I can't be.
+
+18:45.880 --> 18:46.880
+I'm a pin cushion.
+
+18:46.880 --> 18:47.880
+I took all these vaccines.
+
+18:47.880 --> 18:49.880
+Now what I am though,
+
+18:49.880 --> 18:52.880
+is I'm now vaccine risk aware.
+
+18:52.880 --> 18:54.880
+And let me tell you what Andy Wakefield was, right?
+
+18:54.880 --> 18:57.880
+And all Andy Wakefield could have this famous...
+
+18:57.880 --> 19:01.880
+I wonder how many people in the audience
+
+19:01.880 --> 19:04.880
+who haven't seen this understand how significant it is.
+
+19:04.880 --> 19:06.880
+And I wonder how many people in the audience
+
+19:06.880 --> 19:09.880
+understand how significant this is.
+
+19:09.880 --> 19:12.880
+Because I'm going to put this out there right now
+
+19:12.880 --> 19:15.880
+in case you haven't considered it.
+
+19:15.880 --> 19:20.880
+Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has never said that.
+
+19:20.880 --> 19:25.880
+Robert F. Kennedy Jr. says that he wants the vaccines tested.
+
+19:25.880 --> 19:28.880
+He's never actually said the words,
+
+19:28.880 --> 19:31.880
+I would say, if I was a mom right now,
+
+19:31.880 --> 19:33.880
+I would forgo the vaccines.
+
+19:33.880 --> 19:35.880
+It's never said that.
+
+19:35.880 --> 19:37.880
+Never, ever, ever said that.
+
+19:37.880 --> 19:40.880
+Never even come close to it.
+
+19:40.880 --> 19:42.880
+It's not because he's smart.
+
+19:42.880 --> 19:43.880
+It's because he's a lawyer,
+
+19:43.880 --> 19:46.880
+because that's the thing they do.
+
+19:46.880 --> 19:49.880
+That's what they do.
+
+19:49.880 --> 19:51.880
+And he has stuck to the line of,
+
+19:51.880 --> 19:53.880
+well, I want them tested.
+
+19:53.880 --> 19:55.880
+I want them tested against a placebo.
+
+19:55.880 --> 20:01.880
+It's the exact same line that Aaron Ciri defends.
+
+20:01.880 --> 20:04.880
+This is gigantic,
+
+20:04.880 --> 20:07.880
+because it's the same thing that I'm saying
+
+20:07.880 --> 20:08.880
+at the beginning of the stream,
+
+20:08.880 --> 20:09.880
+and it's not...
+
+20:09.880 --> 20:11.880
+We're not leaders.
+
+20:11.880 --> 20:14.880
+Because we just came to this realization.
+
+20:14.880 --> 20:16.880
+I came to it in 2022.
+
+20:16.880 --> 20:21.880
+He's coming to it in 2022 or 23 as well.
+
+20:21.880 --> 20:24.880
+And so there's people that have already been there,
+
+20:24.880 --> 20:28.880
+that already have been taken bullets for years.
+
+20:28.880 --> 20:30.880
+And some of them, many of them took...
+
+20:30.880 --> 20:35.880
+The first bullet they took was with their kid.
+
+20:35.880 --> 20:38.880
+So we got no excuse.
+
+20:38.880 --> 20:41.880
+But this is giant.
+
+20:41.880 --> 20:45.880
+Because every single person that stands up in the lawn section
+
+20:45.880 --> 20:49.880
+and starts dancing is one more person that can lead to it.
+
+20:49.880 --> 20:52.880
+A massive change.
+
+20:52.880 --> 20:55.880
+And that won't be stoppable.
+
+20:55.880 --> 20:59.880
+There will be people who will turn their TV up really loud
+
+20:59.880 --> 21:02.880
+to make sure that they don't hear it.
+
+21:02.880 --> 21:06.880
+But it will be unstoppable.
+
+21:06.880 --> 21:07.880
+And more importantly,
+
+21:07.880 --> 21:09.880
+those people that are waking up like that
+
+21:09.880 --> 21:13.880
+will definitely make their way to the voting booth, I hope.
+
+21:13.880 --> 21:16.880
+And I'm terrified to think of how rigged it is.
+
+21:16.880 --> 21:19.880
+I'm terrified to even think about it.
+
+21:19.880 --> 21:22.880
+But the most important thing is that people are waking up.
+
+21:22.880 --> 21:29.880
+And this is a sign that Dr. Peter McCullough may just have been told
+
+21:29.880 --> 21:31.880
+what he can say and what he cannot say.
+
+21:31.880 --> 21:33.880
+And that's why he's...
+
+21:33.880 --> 21:38.880
+When he was on my show, it was almost as if he was under duress.
+
+21:38.880 --> 21:41.880
+Because he knew coming on my show he was going to be pushed to say
+
+21:41.880 --> 21:44.880
+the stuff that he's not allowed to say and he didn't say it.
+
+21:44.880 --> 21:47.880
+And that's fine if he's going to say this.
+
+21:51.880 --> 21:54.880
+Let's listen to it again because this is really an extraordinary moment
+
+21:54.880 --> 21:57.880
+in this pandemic.
+
+21:57.880 --> 22:00.880
+It is of the MMR and Dr. Wakefield.
+
+22:00.880 --> 22:03.880
+The reason I mention this is you've had the...
+
+22:03.880 --> 22:07.880
+Your change in kind of view around vaccines in general
+
+22:07.880 --> 22:10.880
+has also coincided with your...
+
+22:10.880 --> 22:13.880
+I don't know if it's a reacquaintance with or an acquaintance
+
+22:13.880 --> 22:15.880
+with the case of Wakefield.
+
+22:15.880 --> 22:18.880
+So for the Brits here just to hear this from you,
+
+22:18.880 --> 22:20.880
+do you think he was perhaps right all along?
+
+22:20.880 --> 22:24.880
+I think he was right all along and I think he will be vindicated
+
+22:24.880 --> 22:26.880
+absolutely.
+
+22:26.880 --> 22:28.880
+So do you agree with Tess then?
+
+22:28.880 --> 22:29.880
+Has your view moved?
+
+22:29.880 --> 22:30.880
+My view has changed.
+
+22:30.880 --> 22:34.880
+Now I can tell you, if I was a young parent today,
+
+22:34.880 --> 22:38.880
+what I would do is I would forego the vaccines.
+
+22:38.880 --> 22:41.880
+I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I can't be. I'm a pin cushion.
+
+22:41.880 --> 22:43.880
+I took all these vaccines.
+
+22:43.880 --> 22:47.880
+Now what I am though is I'm now vaccine risk aware.
+
+22:47.880 --> 22:50.880
+And let me tell you what Andy Wakefield was right.
+
+22:50.880 --> 22:54.880
+But all Andy Wakefield was saying is that maybe it's too intense.
+
+22:54.880 --> 22:56.880
+Maybe we ought to just kind of spread him out.
+
+22:56.880 --> 22:59.880
+That's all he was really saying.
+
+23:03.880 --> 23:06.880
+It's really important that you understand how important
+
+23:06.880 --> 23:08.880
+that what that really means.
+
+23:08.880 --> 23:10.880
+Because when pieces move around like this,
+
+23:10.880 --> 23:14.880
+we really need to understand how they're shifting.
+
+23:14.880 --> 23:20.880
+And I think it's very likely that we can start to think of
+
+23:20.880 --> 23:24.880
+and we need to start thinking of
+
+23:24.880 --> 23:30.880
+Bobby and Peter as being closer to Green than anything.
+
+23:30.880 --> 23:32.880
+I mean we just have to bring them onto the side of understanding
+
+23:32.880 --> 23:34.880
+that there wasn't any spread in New York
+
+23:34.880 --> 23:36.880
+and therefore it had to be something else.
+
+23:36.880 --> 23:39.880
+We have to think about it like something else.
+
+23:42.880 --> 23:44.880
+And so I want you to watch a movie with me today
+
+23:44.880 --> 23:48.880
+because there's another video that I found that's from the same
+
+23:48.880 --> 23:52.880
+Enlightenment radio network that Mark exposed and looked at
+
+23:52.880 --> 23:55.880
+with his stream the other night and the one that I happened upon
+
+23:55.880 --> 23:58.880
+that I didn't really realize was such a gold mine
+
+23:58.880 --> 24:02.880
+of Robert Malone footage.
+
+24:03.880 --> 24:05.880
+And I want you to realize
+
+24:05.880 --> 24:10.880
+that I put Robert Malone above my head now because
+
+24:10.880 --> 24:14.880
+okay so he's streaming with Paul Catrell on this
+
+24:14.880 --> 24:17.880
+Enlightenment radio network.
+
+24:17.880 --> 24:20.880
+He's plugging George Webb all the oops
+
+24:20.880 --> 24:22.880
+can you see my arrow? No you couldn't.
+
+24:22.880 --> 24:26.880
+So he's streaming with Paul Catrell.
+
+24:26.880 --> 24:30.880
+He's doing George Webb promotions on his website
+
+24:30.880 --> 24:34.880
+like more than three times he's promoted George Webb
+
+24:34.880 --> 24:37.880
+to his subscribers that are more than a million right?
+
+24:37.880 --> 24:40.880
+So that seems a little kind of like shooting yourself in the foot.
+
+24:43.880 --> 24:47.880
+He's done Paul Catrell shows which I also find very extraordinary
+
+24:47.880 --> 24:51.880
+if you can come out on, if you can come out on,
+
+24:51.880 --> 24:55.880
+I mean why is he wasting his time with those people?
+
+24:55.880 --> 24:58.880
+Those videos have like 47 views
+
+24:58.880 --> 25:00.880
+were they streaming on some other platform?
+
+25:00.880 --> 25:03.880
+Was it really a radio show? I don't know.
+
+25:03.880 --> 25:06.880
+But it's extraordinary.
+
+25:06.880 --> 25:09.880
+And it tells us something because of what Mark found last night
+
+25:09.880 --> 25:16.880
+which is that that guy Neely was actually
+
+25:16.880 --> 25:22.880
+was actually arrested on January 6th at the Capitol.
+
+25:22.880 --> 25:26.880
+Now it's not to say that that makes him a good guy or a bad guy.
+
+25:26.880 --> 25:29.880
+It means something though.
+
+25:29.880 --> 25:31.880
+It's bizarre.
+
+25:31.880 --> 25:33.880
+It's weird though.
+
+25:33.880 --> 25:38.880
+And we've got to really consider the fact that he was there
+
+25:38.880 --> 25:42.880
+that Robert has worked with these guys many times
+
+25:42.880 --> 25:45.880
+and what this means from the perspective of who all these people are
+
+25:45.880 --> 25:48.880
+why are they all connected.
+
+25:48.880 --> 25:51.880
+And on that map that we were looking at back there you know
+
+25:51.880 --> 25:55.880
+there's a real, oh yeah we don't leave this off for now.
+
+25:55.880 --> 26:02.880
+There's a real, it's just, it's so,
+
+26:02.880 --> 26:09.880
+it's so defeating to think that, you know, over here,
+
+26:09.880 --> 26:13.880
+that's it, there we go.
+
+26:13.880 --> 26:16.880
+And I don't think the podcast is called Black and White.
+
+26:16.880 --> 26:19.880
+I don't think it's called Blacks and Whites.
+
+26:19.880 --> 26:21.880
+But that's how they wrote it in here.
+
+26:21.880 --> 26:26.880
+When you look at the thumbnail, it's Black and White I believe.
+
+26:26.880 --> 26:29.880
+But it's, anyway, here we go.
+
+26:29.880 --> 26:31.880
+Let's just do this.
+
+26:31.880 --> 26:34.880
+I'm going to set it fast though because I don't want to stay up super late.
+
+26:34.880 --> 26:36.880
+I want to get done.
+
+26:36.880 --> 26:38.880
+And I know you guys don't mind, right?
+
+26:38.880 --> 26:40.880
+I mean I'm going to do a one and a half times.
+
+26:40.880 --> 26:45.880
+I hope that's going to be fast enough to get done.
+
+26:45.880 --> 26:46.880
+We only want to deal with facts.
+
+26:46.880 --> 26:48.880
+It's time for you to re-enter from there.
+
+26:48.880 --> 26:51.880
+It's time for Dan and Darryl.
+
+26:51.880 --> 26:52.880
+I'll put myself a little small.
+
+26:52.880 --> 26:53.880
+Welcome back to Black and White.
+
+26:53.880 --> 26:56.880
+And we have, I call it one of our favorite people.
+
+26:56.880 --> 26:57.880
+So he's been on more than anybody else.
+
+26:57.880 --> 26:59.880
+Dr. Robert Long, he'll be on just a minute.
+
+26:59.880 --> 27:02.880
+But I want to just take a minute or so and raise a couple of quick issues.
+
+27:02.880 --> 27:06.880
+The story came out yesterday that in New York, Chicago and Philadelphia,
+
+27:06.880 --> 27:09.880
+there are more people dying from gun shot wounds than from the virus.
+
+27:09.880 --> 27:10.880
+I'm going to say that again.
+
+27:10.880 --> 27:12.880
+More people dying from gun shot wounds in New York,
+
+27:12.880 --> 27:16.880
+Philadelphia and Chicago than the virus.
+
+27:16.880 --> 27:21.880
+And so if you start to look and you try and find out how many people have died of delta,
+
+27:21.880 --> 27:23.880
+it's almost impossible to find out.
+
+27:23.880 --> 27:26.880
+They keep talking about the infection rates are up and people in the hospital are up,
+
+27:26.880 --> 27:29.880
+but the death rates seem to be not moving very much.
+
+27:29.880 --> 27:33.880
+So that the virus we're dealing with delta apparently spreads more
+
+27:33.880 --> 27:36.880
+and affects more people and puts some people in the hospital.
+
+27:36.880 --> 27:40.880
+But it's not killing people anywhere near it's big sister was.
+
+27:40.880 --> 27:44.880
+So with that to talk about the second stage of the delta trilogy,
+
+27:44.880 --> 27:47.880
+it's Dr. Robert Malone who's been with us three or four times before.
+
+27:47.880 --> 27:52.880
+And so Dr. welcome back to Black and White.
+
+27:52.880 --> 27:56.880
+My pleasure Dan and I look forward to what you post this as a podcast
+
+27:56.880 --> 27:59.880
+and being able to cross post it on Twitter.
+
+27:59.880 --> 28:01.880
+I think we've got some important topics today.
+
+28:01.880 --> 28:04.880
+Well, I was going to suggest something but I've changed my mind, Dr. since
+
+28:04.880 --> 28:07.880
+you're a hell of a lot smarter than me, probably a girl smarter than me.
+
+28:07.880 --> 28:11.880
+So but you tell us what is the most important message
+
+28:11.880 --> 28:13.880
+that you want to communicate to our listeners today.
+
+28:13.880 --> 28:15.880
+What's first and foremost in your mind?
+
+28:15.880 --> 28:17.880
+Actually, I've got about four of them right now.
+
+28:17.880 --> 28:19.880
+They're all at the same time.
+
+28:19.880 --> 28:23.880
+So this is like reading the news over the last week really quickly.
+
+28:23.880 --> 28:26.880
+One of the things that the big bombshell that dropped last Friday
+
+28:26.880 --> 28:30.880
+was the Washington Post article based on a leaked CDC slide deck about delta,
+
+28:30.880 --> 28:32.880
+among other things.
+
+28:32.880 --> 28:34.880
+And the press and the Washington Post downplayed it,
+
+28:34.880 --> 28:39.880
+but the slide deck you can read it yourself and I put links to that in my Twitter account
+
+28:39.880 --> 28:41.880
+or you can get it from the Washington Post.
+
+28:41.880 --> 28:45.880
+So it clearly documents that delta is able to infect people
+
+28:45.880 --> 28:47.880
+that have been previously vaccinated.
+
+28:47.880 --> 28:48.880
+So that's a bombshell.
+
+28:48.880 --> 28:52.880
+It also documents that delta is about as infectious as the chickenpox virus.
+
+28:52.880 --> 28:56.880
+What that means for those that are technical, you know, epidemiologists
+
+28:56.880 --> 28:58.880
+in training, which seems like most of us these days,
+
+28:58.880 --> 29:01.880
+is the are not the reproductive coefficient is about eight.
+
+29:01.880 --> 29:05.880
+The prior reproductive coefficient for the alpha variant was about two to two and a half.
+
+29:05.880 --> 29:09.880
+So we're in the range of, you know, arguably three to four times more infectious.
+
+29:09.880 --> 29:14.880
+According to the CDC's own slide deck, their estimate is, as you say,
+
+29:14.880 --> 29:18.880
+delta is not more pathogenic than alpha.
+
+29:18.880 --> 29:22.880
+So more infectious and a minimum not significantly more pathogenic.
+
+29:22.880 --> 29:28.880
+No, in terms of your point about, you know, what are the deaths, et cetera.
+
+29:28.880 --> 29:31.880
+Right now the two countries that are kind of ahead of the curve
+
+29:31.880 --> 29:34.880
+that have more comprehensive data are Great Britain and Israel.
+
+29:34.880 --> 29:38.880
+And so many of us are busy looking at those data that's fascinating in the UK data
+
+29:38.880 --> 29:43.880
+where you've got a fairly high percent of the population is vaccinated like 75 to 80%.
+
+29:43.880 --> 29:47.880
+And really dense vaccination in the high risk persons is just as you say,
+
+29:47.880 --> 29:49.880
+there's a big spike in new cases for delta.
+
+29:49.880 --> 29:51.880
+There's not a big spike in deaths.
+
+29:51.880 --> 29:56.880
+And one of the things we've also learned over the last week about the Israeli data is fascinating.
+
+29:56.880 --> 30:02.880
+The CDC and others have been saying, oh, but there's no adverse events being reported in the Israeli data set.
+
+30:02.880 --> 30:06.880
+So I had a chance to talk to some Israeli physicians and scientists to learn more about this.
+
+30:06.880 --> 30:12.880
+And the truth is that there was a deal struck between Netanyahu's government and Pfizer early on
+
+30:12.880 --> 30:17.880
+that provided the early access to the Pfizer vaccine to Israel and its population.
+
+30:17.880 --> 30:19.880
+And the population there was very compliant.
+
+30:19.880 --> 30:22.880
+You know, it was expressed to me that this one woman that I was talking to scientists said that
+
+30:22.880 --> 30:25.880
+we've had three wars that she's been there over the last four years, I think.
+
+30:25.880 --> 30:29.880
+And when the government tells you to run for the bunkers, you generally run for bunkers.
+
+30:29.880 --> 30:34.880
+So people are pretty willing to do whatever the government tells them to do, which is why they've had such good vaccine uptake.
+
+30:34.880 --> 30:42.880
+But it turns out that the reason why we're not seeing reports of adverse events in Israel is because they're forbidden by law.
+
+30:42.880 --> 30:47.880
+To report those adverse events, the contract that the government executed with Pfizer.
+
+30:47.880 --> 30:52.880
+So Pfizer gets all the data, but the adverse event data is by contract locked away for 30 years.
+
+30:52.880 --> 30:55.880
+Pfizer's got it, but the Israeli government can't share it with anybody else.
+
+30:55.880 --> 30:57.880
+So that ties that one down.
+
+30:57.880 --> 31:00.880
+There's some kind of Israeli pirate positions in scientists.
+
+31:00.880 --> 31:03.880
+They're now collecting their own adverse events, data sets.
+
+31:03.880 --> 31:08.880
+And so they're the ones that are starting to reveal a lot of these effects that are coming out.
+
+31:08.880 --> 31:10.880
+Another big bombshell was just dropped last night.
+
+31:10.880 --> 31:15.880
+Yesterday was a very experienced senior pathologist that's been paid by the government of Germany.
+
+31:15.880 --> 31:21.880
+They were autopsies, including autopsies on people that have received vaccine within two weeks of their date of death.
+
+31:21.880 --> 31:23.880
+He's just reported a series about 50 autopsies.
+
+31:23.880 --> 31:31.880
+And he's claiming that about 50% of those show clear signs of death consequent to vaccine administration, mostly cardiac clocks and things like that.
+
+31:31.880 --> 31:36.880
+So this is all comers folks that died within two weeks after vaccine administration.
+
+31:36.880 --> 31:42.880
+So it does appear that the deaths and other adverse events, again, we're getting the same data in different ways.
+
+31:42.880 --> 31:44.880
+It's all coming together.
+
+31:44.880 --> 31:50.880
+The deaths and adverse events from vaccines, and these aren't adults, are showing much of the same pathology that was detected in the adolescence.
+
+31:50.880 --> 31:52.880
+We discussed this, I think, in a last podcast.
+
+31:52.880 --> 31:54.880
+So that's another big one.
+
+31:54.880 --> 32:01.880
+There's a very knowledgeable virologist in the Netherlands named Gert van der Bosch.
+
+32:01.880 --> 32:07.880
+Who I used to work with when I worked for Solve with him on the development of influenza vaccines, new influenza vaccine technology.
+
+32:07.880 --> 32:09.880
+So Solve is based in the Netherlands, and that's where Gert lives.
+
+32:09.880 --> 32:13.880
+Gert's a veterinary immunologist and vaccinologist.
+
+32:13.880 --> 32:19.880
+And the general practice in the Netherlands is you don't vaccinate the herds, you don't vaccinate food animals, because you don't want to select for vaccine escape variants.
+
+32:20.880 --> 32:25.880
+So what they do is they call a flock, let's say, chickens that gets an infection, rather than vaccinating to try to get out of it.
+
+32:25.880 --> 32:32.880
+Gert, obviously, we can't do that with humans. Gert has been the one that's been making a really strong case that he cannot vaccinate into the teeth of a pandemic.
+
+32:32.880 --> 32:36.880
+Because what she will do is select increasingly potent vaccine escape variants.
+
+32:36.880 --> 32:40.880
+And by the way, those escape variants aren't coming from the unvaccinated, they're coming from the vaccinated.
+
+32:40.880 --> 32:42.880
+So that's another lie that we've been given.
+
+32:42.880 --> 32:48.880
+Just chalk up that the whiteboard is getting full, figure it out to go right into the 50s, I think, of lies we've been pulled.
+
+32:48.880 --> 32:51.880
+So it's not the unvaccinated, the problem is the vaccinated.
+
+32:51.880 --> 32:55.880
+And Gert makes the point, and it's entirely consistent with what we're seeing with these new mutants.
+
+32:55.880 --> 32:58.880
+It's not only Delta, but Lambda now is cropping up.
+
+32:58.880 --> 33:04.880
+And basically what's happening is by doing universal, trying to push universal vaccination over the world,
+
+33:04.880 --> 33:08.880
+what we're doing is training everybody's immune system to respond in the same way,
+
+33:08.880 --> 33:12.880
+as opposed to the normal situation with natural infection, is because of our genetic diversity,
+
+33:12.880 --> 33:17.880
+we all respond to a threat pathogen in a different way immunologically, suddenly different.
+
+33:17.880 --> 33:19.880
+And that's a good thing for the survival of human species.
+
+33:19.880 --> 33:21.880
+That's how that's supposed to work.
+
+33:21.880 --> 33:26.880
+That was one of the things that's selected for preservation of the under-called DNA, by the way, in Europe years millennia ago,
+
+33:26.880 --> 33:29.880
+is this kind of genetic selection against infectious disease.
+
+33:29.880 --> 33:32.880
+So by training everybody's immune system to respond to the same antigen in the same way,
+
+33:32.880 --> 33:35.880
+what it means is the virus is going to get better and better and better and better
+
+33:35.880 --> 33:38.880
+at escaping that particular type of immune response.
+
+33:38.880 --> 33:42.880
+And when it gets there, even if it gets close to it, it's going to result in mutants that replicate much better
+
+33:42.880 --> 33:46.880
+and completely evade the immune response in all of us that have been vaccinated.
+
+33:46.880 --> 33:50.880
+And we're setting ourselves up, basically, I'm sorry to say I don't mean to sound alarmist,
+
+33:50.880 --> 33:53.880
+but Bert's point is we're setting ourselves up for a global catastrophe.
+
+33:53.880 --> 33:54.880
+And I got a...
+
+33:54.880 --> 34:00.880
+Now let's cover what he said first up until now, up until the global catastrophe,
+
+34:00.880 --> 34:03.880
+so that we can boil it down a little bit.
+
+34:04.880 --> 34:12.880
+And don't get too upset with regard to...
+
+34:12.880 --> 34:15.880
+Let me get the desk open here.
+
+34:15.880 --> 34:18.880
+Isn't that the desk open or is this the desk open?
+
+34:18.880 --> 34:20.880
+This must be the desk open.
+
+34:20.880 --> 34:22.880
+No, that's awesome.
+
+34:22.880 --> 34:24.880
+I'm going to get rid of that.
+
+34:25.880 --> 34:33.880
+Okay, that I can do this, yes.
+
+34:33.880 --> 34:39.880
+So in this interview, he started with talking about the Delta variant,
+
+34:39.880 --> 34:46.880
+and specifically he said that it was a slide deck that was leaked by the CDC.
+
+34:46.880 --> 34:50.880
+Now, if you can remember very clearly, what does a leak mean?
+
+34:50.880 --> 34:53.880
+A leak means most likely that they want you to know this,
+
+34:53.880 --> 34:57.880
+and he's going to break it down for you and let you know exactly what it's all about.
+
+34:57.880 --> 35:01.880
+An R0 of 8 is absurd.
+
+35:01.880 --> 35:03.880
+And what it means is that this...
+
+35:03.880 --> 35:07.880
+Now they're keying into a different background signal.
+
+35:07.880 --> 35:11.880
+And this new background signal or a new clone, if you want to have a new clone,
+
+35:11.880 --> 35:14.880
+but I'm not buying that.
+
+35:14.880 --> 35:19.880
+And it's very tricky because we don't really know who's doing the sequencing
+
+35:19.880 --> 35:22.880
+when they're doing the sequencing, where the sequences are coming from,
+
+35:22.880 --> 35:27.880
+we're just told that they're coming from all over the world.
+
+35:27.880 --> 35:31.880
+Israel and the UK are particularly vaccinated populations,
+
+35:31.880 --> 35:34.880
+but there's not a big spike in deaths.
+
+35:34.880 --> 35:37.880
+And so what that seems to mean, what he seems to imply there,
+
+35:37.880 --> 35:40.880
+is that the RNA is not working terribly.
+
+35:40.880 --> 35:44.880
+And in the UK, the people that got AstraZeneca and didn't die,
+
+35:44.880 --> 35:48.880
+it's not working terribly.
+
+35:49.880 --> 35:52.880
+Now he tells the same thing about no adverse events in Israel
+
+35:52.880 --> 35:54.880
+because the Pfizer deal can't report it,
+
+35:54.880 --> 35:59.880
+and he also tells this story about how when the Israelis are so drilled to respond
+
+35:59.880 --> 36:02.880
+to the governments of commands,
+
+36:02.880 --> 36:06.880
+that when they were told to take the shots, they did it.
+
+36:06.880 --> 36:10.880
+He also talks about the fact that there's somebody doing autopsies in Germany
+
+36:10.880 --> 36:13.880
+and finding up to 50% of the deaths that happen right after the vaccine
+
+36:13.880 --> 36:16.880
+are probably caused by the vaccine because of the clotting
+
+36:16.880 --> 36:20.880
+and because of the stating for this spike in certain places.
+
+36:20.880 --> 36:24.880
+But he says the adverse events area are the same across age groups,
+
+36:24.880 --> 36:28.880
+and often seems to imply something to do with clotting.
+
+36:28.880 --> 36:33.880
+So then he goes to say that Herod Vonenbalsch is an old friend of his
+
+36:33.880 --> 36:37.880
+who he used to work with at Solve on the flu vaccine.
+
+36:37.880 --> 36:39.880
+Interesting, isn't it?
+
+36:39.880 --> 36:42.880
+That they also made a video in the north of Spain,
+
+36:42.880 --> 36:45.880
+and it had drone footage and all this other stuff,
+
+36:45.880 --> 36:51.880
+Malone is wearing some kind of baseball cap or cabbie baseball cap kind of hat.
+
+36:55.880 --> 36:59.880
+So here we see already that on the people map we should really connect
+
+36:59.880 --> 37:03.880
+Herod Vonenbalsch and Robert Malone because,
+
+37:03.880 --> 37:07.880
+I mean, they used to work together for goodness sakes.
+
+37:07.880 --> 37:12.880
+So there's no question that their messaging is being coordinated to some respect.
+
+37:12.880 --> 37:16.880
+I mean, they're literally a phone call away from one another.
+
+37:16.880 --> 37:20.880
+And so it's important for me to drop in here right now
+
+37:20.880 --> 37:23.880
+that we've talked about Merrick's disease often.
+
+37:23.880 --> 37:28.880
+And the example of Merrick's disease is not really applicable here
+
+37:28.880 --> 37:31.880
+in the way that you might think it is.
+
+37:31.880 --> 37:34.880
+Because with Merrick's disease in chickens,
+
+37:34.880 --> 37:41.880
+the particularly virulent version of the virus already existed in nature.
+
+37:41.880 --> 37:46.880
+And was competing with other less virulent forms.
+
+37:46.880 --> 37:53.880
+And so the chickens were building immunity to a whole range of Merrick's disease type viruses
+
+37:53.880 --> 37:55.880
+all related to one another.
+
+37:55.880 --> 37:58.880
+Some of them would succumb to more virulent versions.
+
+37:58.880 --> 38:02.880
+Others of them would not succumb to less virulent versions.
+
+38:02.880 --> 38:05.880
+And some would.
+
+38:05.880 --> 38:09.880
+But they were all there when the chickens started to become vaccinated and mass.
+
+38:09.880 --> 38:14.880
+And so then when the vaccinated chickens were still carrying high viral loads,
+
+38:14.880 --> 38:24.880
+then the more virulent virus was able to perpetuate and stay around
+
+38:24.880 --> 38:26.880
+and kill the sentinel birds.
+
+38:26.880 --> 38:30.880
+Now we need to look at that paper again so that you understand exactly what happens in that paper
+
+38:30.880 --> 38:36.880
+and why it happens because with regard to our immune system versus the transfected
+
+38:36.880 --> 38:41.880
+or multiple transfected, it is very different than Merrick's disease
+
+38:41.880 --> 38:45.880
+and the vaccine and non-vaccine case.
+
+38:45.880 --> 38:48.880
+Because unlike the chickens that are vaccinated,
+
+38:48.880 --> 38:53.880
+these people's immune system is not being boosted anymore.
+
+38:53.880 --> 38:58.880
+And what's more likely happening is some kind of tolerance is being built up
+
+38:58.880 --> 39:02.880
+to that particular protein which will make virimium more likely
+
+39:03.880 --> 39:08.880
+and perhaps perhaps it will result in vaccine enhanced disease in the old.
+
+39:08.880 --> 39:10.880
+I don't know.
+
+39:10.880 --> 39:15.880
+But it's not going to result in the kind of long-term protection that we are inevitably getting
+
+39:15.880 --> 39:21.880
+as members of the control group.
+
+39:21.880 --> 39:27.880
+Okay, we're really in a different situation than they are because our immune system
+
+39:27.880 --> 39:31.880
+is continually learning just the way it's supposed to.
+
+39:32.880 --> 39:36.880
+And we are taking care of our bodies in ways so that our immune system can function
+
+39:36.880 --> 39:39.880
+as optimally as possible.
+
+39:39.880 --> 39:45.880
+And that's something that, you know, we need to focus more and more on as we go forward
+
+39:45.880 --> 39:48.880
+because there are going to be other challenges.
+
+39:48.880 --> 39:51.880
+They make this talk about unvaxed and vaxed.
+
+39:51.880 --> 39:58.880
+And then he says genetically our responses are unique.
+
+39:59.880 --> 40:04.880
+And it's actually in history, the history of this biology is that that's the reason
+
+40:04.880 --> 40:07.880
+why pandemics aren't really possible.
+
+40:07.880 --> 40:10.880
+Because in order for a virus to move from person to person,
+
+40:10.880 --> 40:13.880
+it inevitably needs to change a little bit.
+
+40:13.880 --> 40:18.880
+And as it changes,
+
+40:18.880 --> 40:22.880
+it's got to get through a brand new immune system each time.
+
+40:22.880 --> 40:27.880
+And the odds are not very good because we've seen RNA viruses before.
+
+40:28.880 --> 40:33.880
+And so this illusion that there can be an RNA virus for which you have no defense
+
+40:33.880 --> 40:36.880
+is just 100% complete.
+
+40:36.880 --> 40:39.880
+It's nothing. It's wrong.
+
+40:39.880 --> 40:45.880
+And this is Robert Malone basically saying the same thing in a different way.
+
+40:45.880 --> 40:49.880
+Trying not to really let the cat out of the bag while really having, you know,
+
+40:49.880 --> 40:56.880
+wanting to tell the truth and liking his newfound attention.
+
+40:56.880 --> 40:58.880
+But it's not good, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+40:58.880 --> 41:01.880
+It's not good because this is really part of the mythology.
+
+41:01.880 --> 41:07.880
+And he seems to be in some ways meddling in this.
+
+41:07.880 --> 41:10.880
+And I don't know.
+
+41:10.880 --> 41:15.880
+I got to learn more from Mark and I've got to do more of my own research
+
+41:15.880 --> 41:21.880
+to understand the breadth and the depth of what patents he owns
+
+41:21.880 --> 41:29.880
+and the potential intellectual property over which he may have some monopoly power.
+
+41:29.880 --> 41:33.880
+It's hard for me to imagine that that really matters.
+
+41:33.880 --> 41:40.880
+It may just be one of these things where he can blackmail companies.
+
+41:40.880 --> 41:43.880
+Essentially, he can go to a company and say,
+
+41:43.880 --> 41:46.880
+Hey, are you making something that people inhale and it's RNA?
+
+41:46.880 --> 41:51.880
+Are you making something that people are going to put in their mucosa?
+
+41:51.880 --> 41:56.880
+And it's got RNA or DNA in it because I own that patent.
+
+41:56.880 --> 42:02.880
+And so if you don't want me to bring suit against you and take you for everything you're worth,
+
+42:02.880 --> 42:07.880
+why don't you pay for my horses to get flown to Saudi Arabia
+
+42:07.880 --> 42:11.880
+and put some money in my bank account?
+
+42:11.880 --> 42:14.880
+And he can probably make that phone call because he knows who to call
+
+42:14.880 --> 42:17.880
+and because he knows what to say and because he knows how the law works
+
+42:17.880 --> 42:24.880
+and because maybe he's friends with less Weinstein.
+
+42:24.880 --> 42:29.880
+I don't really know, but I do know for sure that if he has intellectual property
+
+42:29.880 --> 42:38.880
+over genetic immunizations in the mucosa and inhaled genetic vaccines,
+
+42:38.880 --> 42:45.880
+then he's got a pretty big intellectual property bone to pick
+
+42:45.880 --> 42:48.880
+if these technologies move forward.
+
+42:48.880 --> 42:52.880
+If any of these inhaled vaccines move forward,
+
+42:52.880 --> 42:56.880
+it could be potentially that they're all his and he's just not saying it
+
+42:56.880 --> 43:01.880
+instead making a stink about this other stuff over there.
+
+43:01.880 --> 43:05.880
+All the while to get everybody's attention and make sure you know what can happen
+
+43:05.880 --> 43:08.880
+because I'm not fooling around.
+
+43:08.880 --> 43:12.880
+I can be on nine podcasts today telling you, telling people all about
+
+43:12.880 --> 43:16.880
+what my intellectual property covers.
+
+43:16.880 --> 43:20.880
+Is it a threat? Is it a display of power?
+
+43:20.880 --> 43:24.880
+A display of endurance? Are they going to finally get revenge?
+
+43:24.880 --> 43:28.880
+For Merck taking that patent and doing nothing with it for ten years?
+
+43:28.880 --> 43:31.880
+I don't know.
+
+43:31.880 --> 43:36.880
+But I have the feeling that this meddling is no joke.
+
+43:36.880 --> 43:39.880
+I have the feeling that this meddling is no joke.
+
+43:39.880 --> 43:44.880
+Tell you as a seasoned virologist, I'm not as knowledgeable as he is
+
+43:44.880 --> 43:48.880
+about the molecular epidemiology that's going on.
+
+43:48.880 --> 43:51.880
+He has very detailed understanding of this and has been talking
+
+43:51.880 --> 43:54.880
+intensely with other molecular epidemiologists.
+
+43:54.880 --> 43:56.880
+I'm completely convinced by his argument.
+
+43:56.880 --> 43:59.880
+By doing vaccination, mass vaccination, using only spike.
+
+43:59.880 --> 44:02.880
+We're setting up a policy where we're putting the entire global
+
+44:02.880 --> 44:03.880
+population at risk.
+
+44:03.880 --> 44:06.880
+And it's just coming out of pure stupidity and thoughtlessness.
+
+44:06.880 --> 44:09.880
+Now, the CDC slide deck that came out among the other bombshells,
+
+44:09.880 --> 44:13.880
+they assert that natural infection also doesn't last until about
+
+44:13.880 --> 44:16.880
+for many more than about six months, which is by the way.
+
+44:16.880 --> 44:18.880
+So there's the other one, right?
+
+44:18.880 --> 44:23.880
+There's the other bomb drop that the CDC's leaked slide deck also says
+
+44:23.880 --> 44:27.880
+that natural immunity only lasts for six months.
+
+44:27.880 --> 44:32.880
+And so now think about how diabolical it is to make it a leak
+
+44:32.880 --> 44:35.880
+so that it must be real.
+
+44:35.880 --> 44:36.880
+I mean, it must be real.
+
+44:36.880 --> 44:40.880
+So then everybody's going, oh, wow, the CDC wasn't even going to tell us
+
+44:40.880 --> 44:43.880
+that natural immunity didn't work.
+
+44:43.880 --> 44:47.880
+And it's crazy because then you would never have any,
+
+44:47.880 --> 44:51.880
+you would never have any expectations for the mRNA to work any longer
+
+44:51.880 --> 44:52.880
+than six months.
+
+44:52.880 --> 44:56.880
+If natural immunity doesn't last any longer than six months, right?
+
+44:56.880 --> 45:00.880
+I see.
+
+45:00.880 --> 45:02.880
+But of course we know that's nonsense.
+
+45:02.880 --> 45:05.880
+You know that that's what I was saying from the absolute very start
+
+45:05.880 --> 45:10.880
+that we had previous immunity to other RNA viruses that would help us
+
+45:10.880 --> 45:11.880
+with this one.
+
+45:11.880 --> 45:13.880
+It was absurd to call it novel.
+
+45:13.880 --> 45:20.880
+And now here we have Robert Malone going right with the faith,
+
+45:20.880 --> 45:22.880
+right with the mythology.
+
+45:22.880 --> 45:24.880
+The way the number for the Pfizer vaccine,
+
+45:24.880 --> 45:26.880
+Pfizer groups out at six months.
+
+45:26.880 --> 45:30.880
+Among the other bombshells, they assert that natural infection also doesn't
+
+45:30.880 --> 45:33.880
+last until about, from any more than about six months, which is by the way,
+
+45:33.880 --> 45:37.880
+the number for the Pfizer vaccine, Pfizer groups out at six months.
+
+45:37.880 --> 45:40.880
+So Pfizer, you may recall a few weeks ago, said we're going to have to have
+
+45:40.880 --> 45:41.880
+boosters at six months.
+
+45:41.880 --> 45:43.880
+They knew this course because they had all the Israeli data.
+
+45:43.880 --> 45:45.880
+Tony Fauci came out and reprimanded them so they had no right to say that
+
+45:45.880 --> 45:46.880
+without his permission.
+
+45:46.880 --> 45:47.880
+They backed down.
+
+45:47.880 --> 45:50.880
+And then two weeks later, HHS came out with an announcement saying that we
+
+45:50.880 --> 45:53.880
+are going to have all the elderly and high-risk individuals are going to have
+
+45:53.880 --> 45:54.880
+to get re-vaccinated six months.
+
+45:54.880 --> 45:55.880
+Okay.
+
+45:55.880 --> 45:58.880
+Now, by the way, today, the WHO comes out with a statement saying, no, no,
+
+45:58.880 --> 45:59.880
+no, no, we can't do that.
+
+45:59.880 --> 46:01.880
+We've got to vaccinate the whole world.
+
+46:01.880 --> 46:05.880
+And so we should be moving these vaccines into the emerging economies that
+
+46:05.880 --> 46:07.880
+don't have the money and the access to the high-tech Western medicine.
+
+46:07.880 --> 46:10.880
+Because if we don't get them there, we're just going to have more problems.
+
+46:10.880 --> 46:15.880
+Now, there's a statement along the lines that about 10% of the populations target
+
+46:15.880 --> 46:18.880
+the WHO talk about is about 10% of the populations in all these emerging
+
+46:18.880 --> 46:19.880
+economies.
+
+46:19.880 --> 46:22.880
+Well, that pretty much lines up with the idea that Gert has loaded and I'm very
+
+46:22.880 --> 46:24.880
+actively promoting and also floating.
+
+46:24.880 --> 46:26.880
+What we really ought to be doing is an extent that we're vaccinating.
+
+46:26.880 --> 46:29.880
+We ought to be vaccinating people that are highest-risk, the elderly and
+
+46:29.880 --> 46:32.880
+morbidly obese and the other folks that are at very high risk because they're
+
+46:32.880 --> 46:33.880
+pre-existing conditions.
+
+46:33.880 --> 46:36.880
+Anybody that we want to get rid of, we should be vaccinating right now.
+
+46:36.880 --> 46:38.880
+That's, I think, his attitude here.
+
+46:38.880 --> 46:41.880
+Anybody that we want to get rid of, we should be vaccinating right now.
+
+46:41.880 --> 46:47.880
+Anybody that's a burden on the system, you know, young people,
+
+46:47.880 --> 46:55.880
+young people that are in permanent care, people without, you know,
+
+46:55.880 --> 47:01.880
+relatives, old, old, old people with multiple comorbidities,
+
+47:01.880 --> 47:05.880
+these people need to be vaccinated.
+
+47:05.880 --> 47:08.880
+And that's saying that the vaccine works, right?
+
+47:08.880 --> 47:11.880
+Can you please see that this means that the vaccine works?
+
+47:11.880 --> 47:19.880
+He's not saying that the risk benefit for transfection for anybody is bad,
+
+47:19.880 --> 47:22.880
+which is what I'm saying.
+
+47:22.880 --> 47:27.880
+He's saying that for certain people,
+
+47:27.880 --> 47:32.880
+transfection is fine because the virus in combination with their really bad
+
+47:32.880 --> 47:37.880
+health makes the risks of transfection worthwhile.
+
+47:37.880 --> 47:40.880
+And this is diabolical.
+
+47:41.880 --> 47:50.880
+I mean, it's diabolical because this is the slippery slope, right?
+
+47:50.880 --> 47:56.880
+Because you're on Carol, who's really, you know, worried about it.
+
+47:56.880 --> 47:59.880
+She's going to take the vaccine then.
+
+47:59.880 --> 48:02.880
+And you're, you know, your mom's friend from the bowling alley.
+
+48:02.880 --> 48:03.880
+She's, she's going to take it.
+
+48:03.880 --> 48:07.880
+She's going to make all of her friends take it because, you know,
+
+48:07.880 --> 48:09.880
+the virus is really bad.
+
+48:09.880 --> 48:12.880
+I don't want long COVID.
+
+48:12.880 --> 48:14.880
+That's what this is so dire.
+
+48:14.880 --> 48:15.880
+That's why this is so diabolical.
+
+48:15.880 --> 48:18.880
+He's not really coming out, guys.
+
+48:18.880 --> 48:21.880
+He's not coming out and saying don't take it.
+
+48:21.880 --> 48:28.880
+If he says, well, teenagers probably, probably shouldn't take it.
+
+48:28.880 --> 48:31.880
+And that's why you know, that's how you know.
+
+48:31.880 --> 48:34.880
+He came to be on Bobby's team.
+
+48:34.880 --> 48:37.880
+And then he never said one damn word about the vaccine.
+
+48:37.880 --> 48:40.880
+Is Peter McCulloch trying to get on the Bobby train?
+
+48:40.880 --> 48:41.880
+No.
+
+48:41.880 --> 48:46.880
+Is Peter McCulloch saying, don't take the kids' shots.
+
+48:46.880 --> 48:51.880
+Your damn right he is.
+
+48:51.880 --> 48:58.880
+And that's gigantic because that's what separates Robert Malone from Bobby.
+
+48:58.880 --> 49:02.880
+It's what separates Robert Malone from so many of the people on this side.
+
+49:02.880 --> 49:10.880
+It even separates him from people like the Braggons who have been speaking up about this stuff for years.
+
+49:10.880 --> 49:18.880
+But it most certainly separates him from Bobby because he has not spoken once, not one time,
+
+49:18.880 --> 49:22.880
+about the vaccination schedule and why would he?
+
+49:22.880 --> 49:28.880
+He's been advocating for vaccines and their testing
+
+49:28.880 --> 49:33.880
+and technologies for their fill and finish.
+
+49:33.880 --> 49:43.880
+And he's been working with companies like Solve on on flu vaccines with people like hair-funded motion.
+
+49:43.880 --> 49:48.880
+This guy has had his uniform on for 20 years.
+
+49:48.880 --> 49:53.880
+And now just because he's not wearing it and he's on vacation or retired,
+
+49:53.880 --> 49:57.880
+you think that his values have changed?
+
+49:57.880 --> 50:00.880
+Come on, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+50:00.880 --> 50:04.880
+Now that we can see through this guy, what do we know?
+
+50:04.880 --> 50:09.880
+How do the pieces move on the board when Dr. Peter McCulloch says, you know what?
+
+50:09.880 --> 50:13.880
+If I was a mom today, I would forego the vaccines.
+
+50:13.880 --> 50:15.880
+Wow.
+
+50:15.880 --> 50:17.880
+Wow.
+
+50:17.880 --> 50:21.880
+I mean, wow.
+
+50:21.880 --> 50:25.880
+Do you think Robert Malone's ever going to say those words come up?
+
+50:25.880 --> 50:32.880
+He's never going to even approach the possibility of saying those words.
+
+50:32.880 --> 50:35.880
+And that's how you know.
+
+50:35.880 --> 50:38.880
+That's how you know.
+
+50:38.880 --> 50:43.880
+You can just see it because people either continue and climb all the way out of the cave and go,
+
+50:43.880 --> 50:48.880
+holy shit, was it dark in there?
+
+50:48.880 --> 50:54.880
+Or they stop right before the hole and they start reading stories.
+
+50:54.880 --> 50:57.880
+And that's what this guy's doing.
+
+50:57.880 --> 51:02.880
+He's stopping right below the hole, kick the ladder out of the way,
+
+51:02.880 --> 51:04.880
+let the light come down a little bit.
+
+51:04.880 --> 51:07.880
+He's telling stories and making shadows with the light from the hole.
+
+51:07.880 --> 51:09.880
+That's all he's doing.
+
+51:09.880 --> 51:15.880
+He substituted the fire with another light source and we're getting a little more fresh air.
+
+51:15.880 --> 51:17.880
+That's it.
+
+51:17.880 --> 51:20.880
+Nothing else.
+
+51:20.880 --> 51:23.880
+And we're so close, ladies and gentlemen, how close are we?
+
+51:23.880 --> 51:28.880
+Because Peter McCulloch just freaking climbed out.
+
+51:28.880 --> 51:30.880
+Peter McCulloch just climbed out of the hole, man.
+
+51:30.880 --> 51:33.880
+It's just fantastic.
+
+51:33.880 --> 51:38.880
+Let's listen to this, this most interesting disambiguation wizard.
+
+51:38.880 --> 51:44.880
+So that's where the vaccine should go and we should not be vaccinating everybody else because we're just going to create a monster over the long term.
+
+51:44.880 --> 51:46.880
+Of a resisted virus.
+
+51:46.880 --> 51:48.880
+And then our vaccines are not going to be useful for anything.
+
+51:48.880 --> 51:50.880
+See, so the vaccines are good.
+
+51:50.880 --> 51:59.880
+It's just that mass applying a vaccine which builds immunity to the spike protein is going to push that virus in weird curvy ways.
+
+51:59.880 --> 52:07.880
+And once it goes in weird curvy ways, we're going to have viral variants that affect everybody.
+
+52:07.880 --> 52:12.880
+It'll just be a disaster, but that's 100% wrong.
+
+52:12.880 --> 52:20.880
+It's 100% wrong because all the control group is going to be fine.
+
+52:20.880 --> 52:25.880
+And it's not the virus that's changing, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+52:25.880 --> 52:29.880
+It's the transfected people.
+
+52:29.880 --> 52:34.880
+And that's the worst part of this mythology that nobody seems to have grasped yet.
+
+52:34.880 --> 52:37.880
+Not even really me.
+
+52:37.880 --> 52:40.880
+But that's how this story has its motion.
+
+52:40.880 --> 52:48.880
+That's why when you open the books pages, the little people pop out.
+
+52:48.880 --> 52:55.880
+That's how it works because the immune system of the transfected people is being weakened.
+
+52:55.880 --> 53:03.880
+And maybe they're building a tolerance to coronaviruses that allows coronavirus infection to be more sustained.
+
+53:03.880 --> 53:08.880
+Maybe it allows it to become more severe.
+
+53:08.880 --> 53:12.880
+Maybe it'll take a while before anything happens.
+
+53:12.880 --> 53:20.880
+But in no way shape or form is coronavirus becoming stronger because people are being transfected.
+
+53:20.880 --> 53:24.880
+Think about how dumb that sounds when you say it out loud.
+
+53:24.880 --> 53:32.880
+The virus is getting stronger because people are being transfected.
+
+53:32.880 --> 53:37.880
+No way that makes any sense.
+
+53:37.880 --> 53:39.880
+There's no way that makes any sense.
+
+53:39.880 --> 53:48.880
+But what we can imagine is that the people who are being transfected are being permanently altered in a way that makes them sick more often.
+
+53:48.880 --> 53:57.880
+And using PCR to decide how they're being sick is just plain ridiculous at this point while we're winning.
+
+53:57.880 --> 54:01.880
+We're winning with this steady pressure, ladies and gentlemen, we're winning.
+
+54:02.880 --> 54:06.880
+So the last part of this whole logic now that I rolled out with Peter Navarro.
+
+54:06.880 --> 54:08.880
+This is not a plug for Steve Bannon.
+
+54:08.880 --> 54:13.880
+On his war room on Saturday, I actually drove up to BC to the recording studio to talk about this.
+
+54:13.880 --> 54:20.880
+The other part of this is we got to emphasize drugs for those people that aren't vaccinated that do develop sickness or do end up in the hospital.
+
+54:20.880 --> 54:24.880
+And preferably for those people, right now we've got to sit for those people that are outpatients.
+
+54:24.880 --> 54:28.880
+Right now we've got a situation where if you get sick with COVID and you go to the emergency room, they say,
+
+54:28.880 --> 54:31.880
+come back when your lips are blue, and then maybe we'll treat you.
+
+54:31.880 --> 54:37.880
+And they send you out the door with anything? No, they send you out with a pat on the head and the direction to come back when you're really sick.
+
+54:37.880 --> 54:43.880
+This makes it so that the disease progresses in all these people, like you and me, if we happen to get this delta variant and we aren't already vaccinated.
+
+54:43.880 --> 54:47.880
+So the logical thing to do is to make drugs available and promote them.
+
+54:47.880 --> 54:55.880
+Actually, when they sent those people home at that time, when they had low oxygen level and they couldn't breathe and it was painful, they probably already had pneumonia.
+
+54:58.880 --> 55:04.880
+And so they sent them home with bacterial pneumonia and told them to come back when they're really sick.
+
+55:06.880 --> 55:11.880
+How many people would they have to do that to on average before something terrible would happen?
+
+55:14.880 --> 55:16.880
+You see what we're dealing with here?
+
+55:16.880 --> 55:23.880
+We're dealing with a very carefully crafted narrative where you drive really fast past the truth.
+
+55:24.880 --> 55:32.880
+And because he's telling a story and you're paying attention and the suspension on the car is really good, you don't notice the potholes.
+
+55:32.880 --> 55:42.880
+You miss the homeless people. You don't see the blood. You don't hear the gunshots because the car is so silent and the doors close with such a...
+
+55:46.880 --> 55:49.880
+And that's what this guy's doing. That's what the TV does.
+
+55:50.880 --> 55:59.880
+It takes you through the inner city where everybody's dying in a luxury sedan with NPR on.
+
+56:00.880 --> 56:04.880
+And you go through this like all the lights are green.
+
+56:05.880 --> 56:12.880
+And before you know it, you've had a little conversation and he lit a cigar and before you know it, you're back in the northern suburbs.
+
+56:13.880 --> 56:21.880
+And you're talking about bullshit. You're not talking about people dying from remdesivir anymore.
+
+56:21.880 --> 56:24.880
+You're not talking about people dying from being over ventilated.
+
+56:24.880 --> 56:28.880
+You're not talking about people dying because they weren't given antibiotics.
+
+56:28.880 --> 56:32.880
+But just said, oh, or back to the care home.
+
+56:32.880 --> 56:34.880
+Not talking about any of this.
+
+56:36.880 --> 56:38.880
+Because that's not his role.
+
+56:38.880 --> 56:43.880
+His role is not disambiguation wizard. It's exactly the opposite.
+
+56:45.880 --> 56:48.880
+And that's how fifth generation warfare works.
+
+56:48.880 --> 56:52.880
+People look into the camera and they tell you exactly the opposite of what they want you to think.
+
+56:53.880 --> 56:56.880
+Exactly the opposite of what they want you to know.
+
+56:59.880 --> 57:02.880
+And this guy is the master.
+
+57:03.880 --> 57:11.880
+He's been doing it since day one. I don't know who else is on his team, but I'm sure there are more.
+
+57:13.880 --> 57:16.880
+But there's no way to see it anymore.
+
+57:16.880 --> 57:27.880
+There's no way to see it because none of these early appearances are a guy in tears because he's afraid 10 million people are going to be damaged.
+
+57:28.880 --> 57:30.880
+Don't you hear this?
+
+57:31.880 --> 57:35.880
+He's not worried about people being damaged by this technology.
+
+57:35.880 --> 57:44.880
+He's worried about the virus being encouraged to get worse by this technology's working really well.
+
+57:47.880 --> 57:49.880
+Please tell me you can hear this.
+
+57:49.880 --> 57:55.880
+This is not a man who's warning everybody that we need to pause this whole idea of
+
+57:55.880 --> 58:00.880
+transfecting healthy humans because transfection ain't immunization.
+
+58:00.880 --> 58:02.880
+That's not what he's saying.
+
+58:03.880 --> 58:21.880
+He's saying that him and his colleague from Solve agree that this vaccination into the teeth of a pandemic is bound to piss the virus off and make it angry and make a global catastrophe.
+
+58:22.880 --> 58:30.880
+So how is that questioning the spread of a novel virus or the fact that we have to do something or that the mRNA worked or that it's gain a function and it will come again?
+
+58:31.880 --> 58:34.880
+It's not questioning at all. Is it?
+
+58:35.880 --> 58:41.880
+Because he's not coming out to save everybody in 2021. Now is he?
+
+58:43.880 --> 58:46.880
+So the people get them as soon as possible after they started developing disease.
+
+58:47.880 --> 58:50.880
+Everybody off positions all over the world have been shouting this and being censored.
+
+58:50.880 --> 58:53.880
+So Peter Navarro, people in Canada are losing their license.
+
+58:53.880 --> 58:55.880
+People in the UK are losing their license.
+
+58:55.880 --> 58:57.880
+We're saying it's very message.
+
+58:57.880 --> 59:07.880
+Now there's a statement out from the licensing board, the governance licensing board for all the states in the United States for physicians saying that if you circulate medical misinformation, say things that aren't otherwise approved, you're at risk for losing your license.
+
+59:07.880 --> 59:10.880
+So now I'm at risk for losing mine because of this new policy.
+
+59:11.880 --> 59:21.880
+And as it, you know, magically, today we have announcement by Tony Fauci in a talk session at a think tank in DC where he's rolled out.
+
+59:21.880 --> 59:27.880
+Oh, now we need to focus on drugs and developing drugs and getting drugs out to the people as soon as possible after they get infected.
+
+59:27.880 --> 59:32.880
+But oh, by the way, drugs that he's focused on are the new ones that the pharmaceutical industry has patents on.
+
+59:33.880 --> 59:34.880
+He's not talking about hypermechanics.
+
+59:34.880 --> 59:35.880
+He's not talking about hydroxychloroquine.
+
+59:35.880 --> 59:41.880
+He's not talking about pomodidine or stolocoxid or monoluchast or any of these other agents that have been shown to have activity.
+
+59:41.880 --> 59:45.880
+He's talking about the new stuff that the pharmaceutical industries are developing and have patents on.
+
+59:45.880 --> 59:46.880
+But this is a huge shift.
+
+59:46.880 --> 01:00:01.880
+Peter Navarro and I predicted this last Saturday is that there had to be a great pivot that Tony Fauci was working on how to manage that because the data coming out of CDC, that leak slide deck, just puts, you know, makes the lies transparent, makes it so clear.
+
+01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:03.880
+What's going on and that we've been misled.
+
+01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:05.880
+They can't deny those.
+
+01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:12.880
+Don't you understand how amazing the Scooby-Doo is because they are convincing you that you've been misled.
+
+01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:19.880
+And that leaked slide deck is clearly evidence that you've been misled.
+
+01:00:19.880 --> 01:00:24.880
+And so it's really like they're.
+
+01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:27.880
+It's like a double cross.
+
+01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:31.880
+You know, you, you.
+
+01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:35.880
+It's really extraordinary what they've done to us because.
+
+01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:37.880
+And then he leads us right by the nose.
+
+01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:41.880
+How many times did he say leaked CDC slide deck.
+
+01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:44.880
+Does he have to keep repeating that phrase over and over?
+
+01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:49.880
+Is that part of the neuro linguistic programming that's going on here.
+
+01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:52.880
+And so what else made the lies transparent.
+
+01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:56.880
+The redacted emails, the leaked messages from Slack.
+
+01:00:56.880 --> 01:01:00.880
+The diffuse proposal that was leaked from a D.O.D. server.
+
+01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:03.880
+What other things make the lies apparent.
+
+01:01:04.880 --> 01:01:29.880
+What other things make us feel like teenagers with a big dog solving a mystery by pulling the mask off of a monster to find out it's the shopkeeper.
+
+01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:32.880
+Come on guys.
+
+01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:34.880
+This is awesome.
+
+01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:37.880
+We are really so close to breaking this wide open.
+
+01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:38.880
+Miss led.
+
+01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:40.880
+They can't, they can't deny those things now.
+
+01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:42.880
+They have to deal with them finally.
+
+01:01:42.880 --> 01:01:48.880
+And in particular, I don't think I mentioned one of the key things in the CDC said deck is it shows that by their own calculations.
+
+01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:51.880
+We cannot control the spread of this virus.
+
+01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:58.880
+With these leaky vaccines, even if 100% of people take it and perfect mask compliance from everybody.
+
+01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:01.880
+Even with that combination, we still can't control this.
+
+01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:04.880
+Perfect mask compliance from everybody.
+
+01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:07.880
+We still couldn't control the spread.
+
+01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:11.880
+Is that saying that masks work or don't work?
+
+01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:14.880
+I think it's saying that masks work.
+
+01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:19.880
+And even if everybody used masks and everybody took this vaccine, we wouldn't stop the virus.
+
+01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:21.880
+Well, he's right above that.
+
+01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:33.880
+Spread by the CDC's own calculations, which is why you saw, you know, I don't know if you caught Aaron Burnett having a meltdown on CNN and all of this, you know, this, this flop flop.
+
+01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:40.880
+It's going on by the CDC director and Tony Fauci, et cetera, is that they kind of been caught in the lie.
+
+01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:43.880
+And now they're having to confront the fact that everybody can see it.
+
+01:02:43.880 --> 01:02:45.880
+The press can see they've been lied to.
+
+01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:49.880
+And they're now having to in, you know, out in the open with all of us able to see them.
+
+01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:52.880
+They're having to come up with a whole new storyline and promote it.
+
+01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:53.880
+And that's what's going on today.
+
+01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:56.880
+So, Dr, let me, let me, there's a lot of stuff on packs there.
+
+01:02:56.880 --> 01:03:02.880
+Let me start with just to make sure I understood and our audience understands clearly what you were saying.
+
+01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:18.880
+Are you suggesting that the report that you saw that leaked out of the CDC is that the CDC has basically admitted that the vaccines don't offer any long term protection and in fact, millions themselves do more harm than good.
+
+01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:19.880
+That's my first question.
+
+01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:28.880
+And number two, they've got to change the narrative to medicines as opposed to vaccines because medicines are probably where they should have started first as opposed to vaccines.
+
+01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:29.880
+Dr.
+
+01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:39.880
+So, on the first point, no, they're not quite yet to owning the fact that the vaccines in many age groups are provide cause more damage more risk to people than the disease does.
+
+01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:43.880
+They're still not coming clean on that one, but they are coming clean to some extent.
+
+01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:44.880
+You know, remember, this is a leaked document.
+
+01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:55.880
+They didn't intend this to go public art are clearly acknowledging that these vaccines are leaky and they don't provide protection, full protection against infection replication and transmission to others.
+
+01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:05.880
+Furthermore, they're very clear that the levels of replication in people that are vaccinated when they get infected are at least the same if not a little bit higher than in people that haven't been vaccinated.
+
+01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:06.880
+And I saw that.
+
+01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:12.880
+Because that's the other ticking time bomb right now, it's that the sign of potential antibody dependent enhancement.
+
+01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:15.880
+And that's that's the big bomb that's sitting underneath all of this.
+
+01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:17.880
+But have they come clean on the risk benefit ratio?
+
+01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:18.880
+No, they haven't.
+
+01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:21.880
+Dr, can you define now to the drugs as you say per toning.
+
+01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:22.880
+That's exactly what we predicted.
+
+01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:32.880
+And by the way, when I did my threat assessment back in the beginning of January, 2010, when I got on the fourth, I did my assessment and I said our only option in the short term is going to be drugs, particularly repurpose drugs.
+
+01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:36.880
+And that's what I've committed my team to ever since for the last year and half.
+
+01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:38.880
+We've had all kinds of barriers put up.
+
+01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:41.880
+Hopefully we're about to finally get FDA approval to proceed.
+
+01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:46.880
+But we had to drop by vermectants in our testing because they just threw up too many roadblocks for that.
+
+01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:50.880
+Now, that's that feeds into another storyline that we now know from this new data.
+
+01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:58.880
+So in August of 2021, he's still working on getting you a for certain combinations of repurposed drugs.
+
+01:04:59.880 --> 01:05:05.880
+That I find a little surprising. I guess I didn't hear that when I scanned this video before. That's that's interesting.
+
+01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:18.880
+There was another thing I wanted to say there, but I'm never going to get done up. I keep interrupting Israel showing that, in fact, I bring back an administered early on in a double blind randomized placebo controlled trial in Israeli adults is showing significant benefits.
+
+01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:28.880
+So I just I need to I didn't want to get too far away from defined for me and in turn for our audience when you what you mean when you say leaky by vaccines.
+
+01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:37.880
+So the the vaccines are have been calculated based on the clinical trial data, which there's some evidence that that was manipulated in some ways.
+
+01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:43.880
+But the official calculation is that they provide 90 plus percent protection against death and disease.
+
+01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:55.880
+What they don't tell you is that and I think we talked about this in the last time we came together, but they don't tell you about is that they didn't know how effective they are at preventing infection by the virus replication and particularly transmission.
+
+01:05:55.880 --> 01:06:05.880
+Remember, I made the point that all of this talk that we had to have 70% vaccine uptake to get to herd immunity was just a BS because they didn't have the data to actually calculate how much vaccine uptake they needed.
+
+01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:16.880
+Now they're saying based on the Israeli data that there's some indications that there the ability of the vaccine Pfizer to protect you from infection is something of the range of 60%.
+
+01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:22.880
+So 40% unprotected for anyone person getting encountering the virus in aggregate.
+
+01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:26.880
+So it doesn't protect you from completely at all from infection.
+
+01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:29.880
+It absolutely per the CDC if you do get infected.
+
+01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:35.880
+So what is he talking about here? If Jessica Hawkins data is correct.
+
+01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:40.880
+If the numbers that she has are correct and there's absolutely no evidence of spread.
+
+01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:49.880
+If he knows that dexamethasone and remdesivir are being used to grossly over inflate the numbers because of a financial incentive to do so.
+
+01:06:49.880 --> 01:06:54.880
+Why isn't he talking about that here? But instead talking about the spread.
+
+01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:59.880
+And how effective or not effective the RNA is at stopping spread.
+
+01:06:59.880 --> 01:07:07.880
+We're talking about details of something that should have never been rolled out in the first place.
+
+01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:14.880
+And not talking about the things that are being done in order to make it possible for this thing to be rolled out.
+
+01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:22.880
+That's the thing that's the point that Mark has been trying to make so long and he gets so breathless because people don't seem to understand it.
+
+01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:34.880
+We shouldn't even be having this conversation in August of 2021 about how well the mRNA is working because we should have never been able to scare people into thinking we needed it.
+
+01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:41.880
+If we hadn't have used the combinations of drugs that he's talking about include remdesivir.
+
+01:07:42.880 --> 01:08:00.880
+And if we would have been honest about whether there was spread or not, if we would have been honest about not sending people or not giving people antibiotics, if we would have been honest from the very beginning, we wouldn't have needed to roll out and mass into the teeth of a pandemic.
+
+01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:03.880
+The mRNA.
+
+01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:06.880
+But he's not talking about that.
+
+01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:19.880
+He's not connecting the fact that his parading around in the background in 2020 was part of the Ant Hill that was shuffling around to get all this stuff going.
+
+01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:32.880
+He's not talking about the fact that all of that shuffling around and all of that ignoring remdesivir from April onward was the reason why anybody or many people were dying to begin with.
+
+01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:56.880
+And the concept that those two are disconnected from one another that the whole reason why he's able to be a year and a half into it still going after emergency use authorizations is because of perpetuating this narrative about a dangerous virus and delta spreading and are not factor eight.
+
+01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:01.880
+He can't have one without the other.
+
+01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:13.880
+He can't not sustain that narrative if he's also going to be pushing a combination of drugs in the background as a leading trial dot it out, whatever he is.
+
+01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:21.880
+And we're never going to get to the point where we can use inhaled vaccines or vaccines that are muculsily targeted with genetic material.
+
+01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:28.880
+If we don't get rid of this, this mRNA shit that's not under patent anymore.
+
+01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:38.880
+But he's got to walk a very fine line because he doesn't want to say there's no virus because we've got to have vaccines in the future because he's got the patents for him.
+
+01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:49.880
+He doesn't want to say there's no virus because he's trying to get you a's and getting it on that side game a little bit by consulting with people who want to get on that side game a little bit.
+
+01:09:49.880 --> 01:10:06.880
+You know, like Steve Kirsch that he was talking to almost every hour at this time because that's what he said on the Paul control video that he's talking to Steve Kirsch almost every hour at this point.
+
+01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:15.880
+We are pushing back. We are pushing back hard to get your body are the same or higher than people who were never vaccinated in the first place.
+
+01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:25.880
+And it doesn't protect against your ability to infect a third party and it could well be that those higher levels of virus replication when you do get infected leads to even better infection than with the alpha virus variants.
+
+01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:27.880
+That's what the numbers would say they are not at eight.
+
+01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:29.880
+So this is incredibly infectious.
+
+01:10:29.880 --> 01:10:35.880
+As you say the data randomly infectious and my wife was pulling through the press article this morning.
+
+01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:42.880
+She noticed that what they are doing is again and again again the press is saying, oh this hospital is full and that it's all anecdotal.
+
+01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:52.880
+And it doesn't account for the fact that much of this hospital traffic has actually been delayed treatments for elective surgeries and things like that that people have scheduled because they felt that we were finally coming out of the cloud of carbon.
+
+01:10:53.880 --> 01:10:56.880
+Schedule elective surgery tomorrow as you know, you know, you got to get in line.
+
+01:10:56.880 --> 01:10:59.880
+And so much of the surge in the hospitals is nothing to do with COVID.
+
+01:10:59.880 --> 01:11:02.880
+I think you kind of touched on that in your opening there.
+
+01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:10.880
+So, so the press is clearly pushing the story still pushing the storyline of universal vaccination that the unvaccinated of the problem they're killing the rest of us.
+
+01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:11.880
+Blah, blah, blah.
+
+01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:12.880
+It's so bad.
+
+01:11:12.880 --> 01:11:13.880
+Our hospitals are filling up the data.
+
+01:11:13.880 --> 01:11:14.880
+As you say, do not support that.
+
+01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:16.880
+That is just more scare tactics.
+
+01:11:16.880 --> 01:11:18.880
+Maybe that's going to change, but not right now.
+
+01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:21.880
+Dr. Daryl and I had a long discussion about the question I want to ask you.
+
+01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:26.880
+And we were convinced ourselves that it was going to be a very controversial question.
+
+01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:34.880
+And I want to ask you the question, but I want to premise it by saying if, for whatever reason, you choose not to want to answer the question, we'll respect your opinion.
+
+01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:35.880
+Okay, fair enough.
+
+01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:37.880
+Dr.
+
+01:11:37.880 --> 01:11:47.880
+Some people who are not medical professionals have instincts and they, on lots of different things, they seem to know, at least for them,
+
+01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:49.880
+what might be right and what might be wrong.
+
+01:11:49.880 --> 01:12:04.880
+And my question to you is that the Biden administration is unmercifully chastising blacks and minorities who have chosen not to get the vaccine for their own particular reasons as being anti American racist, whatever you want to call there.
+
+01:12:04.880 --> 01:12:06.880
+They're going after them with a vengeance.
+
+01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:09.880
+But there's a part of me that wants to ask you the question.
+
+01:12:09.880 --> 01:12:14.880
+Maybe intuitively the blacks and minorities who have refused the vaccine are smarter than the rest of us.
+
+01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:17.880
+I'm totally okay talking about that.
+
+01:12:17.880 --> 01:12:25.880
+So we talked about this before a little bit, you know, that these groups have prior experience with the heavy handed government when it comes to public health.
+
+01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:30.880
+And we mentioned Tuskegee as the poster child for this, but there are many others.
+
+01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:41.880
+There was a study done that was published in one of the main newspapers of the day at things new times that looked at the level of knowledge of people that were.
+
+01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:49.880
+Vaccine hesitant, I think, is the term that's used the politically correct term, which is to say the ones that aren't accepting the vaccine. They're not necessarily rabid, both anti-vaxxers.
+
+01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:55.880
+You know, they're not go big tree, but they are in the same position of, hey, I'm not convinced that this makes sense for me.
+
+01:12:55.880 --> 01:13:00.880
+And so the study was done. Are these people just basically the uneducated?
+
+01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:06.880
+You know, we've heard the deplorables or other things, you know, these are the deplorables that are uneducated that are refusing to take vaccine or what.
+
+01:13:06.880 --> 01:13:14.880
+It turns out they're very highly educated and have very good understanding of the issue, perhaps because they have to defend themselves to all their peers that are saying, I mean, that's so why aren't you taking the vaccine?
+
+01:13:14.880 --> 01:13:19.880
+But in fact, the evidence is that the people that are not accepting vaccine have a very high degree of understanding.
+
+01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:22.880
+So this fits into the meme of the sheeple versus non sheeple.
+
+01:13:22.880 --> 01:13:30.880
+And the data kind of supports the people that are in this position of being vaccine hesitant are actually more informed than most of the ones that are just saying go along and get along.
+
+01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:41.880
+So, you know, if the these various subpopulations that you're referring to that are characterized by their, you know, by the skin color, but, you know, for instance, just to make the point, I have dark skin.
+
+01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:45.880
+But I'm not African Americans, I'm not a vaccine that I took it, but I wish I hadn't made me sicker.
+
+01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:49.880
+But I don't think you can really define people by their skin color.
+
+01:13:49.880 --> 01:13:51.880
+Does he have dark skin to you?
+
+01:13:51.880 --> 01:13:53.880
+The hell is he talking about?
+
+01:13:53.880 --> 01:13:55.880
+He's got dark skin.
+
+01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:57.880
+Did he really just say that?
+
+01:13:57.880 --> 01:14:04.880
+I'm a little confused what just happened there. Did he really say that he has dark skin and he's not vaccine hesitant?
+
+01:14:04.880 --> 01:14:08.880
+The other guy used the word blacks. Can we use that word?
+
+01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:12.880
+Is that allowed? Does that, does that, I don't even know how that rule works anymore?
+
+01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:16.880
+That doesn't sound like a word that they use on TV very often, blacks.
+
+01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:17.880
+I don't know.
+
+01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:21.880
+It seemed a little, but that's the name of their thing.
+
+01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:25.880
+I think it's more about their culture and that's my personal opinion.
+
+01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:33.880
+And these cultures that you're identifying being reluctant, I think a lot of them, as you say, have experiential wisdom.
+
+01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:37.880
+It goes back off in generations and a healthy skepticism.
+
+01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:40.880
+And in this day and age, I got to say, who can you trust anymore?
+
+01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:43.880
+That's my message all along has been, but the government owes us.
+
+01:14:43.880 --> 01:14:48.880
+I agree with Mark. He actually looks surprisingly like Morgan Friedman.
+
+01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:52.880
+It's just he's missing some freckles. I mean, other than that, it's practically the same.
+
+01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:56.880
+The government is supposed to give us full disclosure and they need to let us make our own choice.
+
+01:14:56.880 --> 01:14:59.880
+And if you want to just go along with the party line, that's your choice.
+
+01:14:59.880 --> 01:15:02.880
+I'm not telling you what to do. I'm not telling you to take vaccine or don't take vaccine.
+
+01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:08.880
+My position is get educated, make your decision about what works for you and your body and your risk factors.
+
+01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:09.880
+And then go.
+
+01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:15.880
+So he's not telling you whether to take it or not. Do you hear him?
+
+01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:19.880
+He's not telling you whether to take it or not. It may have 2021.
+
+01:15:19.880 --> 01:15:29.880
+I wrote in a article where I said that we should pause and everybody should stop.
+
+01:15:29.880 --> 01:15:33.880
+At that time, I didn't realize that it was as bad as it was.
+
+01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:38.880
+I really thought that it might be doing something also to the virus. I didn't.
+
+01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:46.880
+I hadn't become so introspective on the biology of RNA yet and therefore I haven't really learned.
+
+01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:48.880
+How bad.
+
+01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:50.880
+The.
+
+01:15:50.880 --> 01:15:54.880
+How bad the mythology was.
+
+01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:57.880
+Now, if I could add one more log to that part.
+
+01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:02.880
+I have some colleagues that have developed artificial intelligence and machine learning based tools.
+
+01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:04.880
+You can load on your cell phone.
+
+01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:06.880
+Pretty much all of us have got one now.
+
+01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:08.880
+Maybe grandmother does it.
+
+01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:10.880
+But for the most part, we all have smartphones.
+
+01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:12.880
+And you can load these applications on your smartphones.
+
+01:16:12.880 --> 01:16:16.880
+He and answer a little questionnaire about your characteristics where you live.
+
+01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:22.880
+And they will give you a numeric risk factor for what your risk is of getting hospitalized or dying from COVID.
+
+01:16:22.880 --> 01:16:25.880
+And why don't we have something like that? Why isn't that distributed by the government?
+
+01:16:25.880 --> 01:16:26.880
+The government wants to do us good.
+
+01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:30.880
+They ought to give us the information, give us a tool to figure out our own risk and enable us to make informed decisions.
+
+01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:32.880
+Not take this authoritarian.
+
+01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:33.880
+You know, you're going to.
+
+01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:36.880
+Did you hear that?
+
+01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:39.880
+He just said.
+
+01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:42.880
+Am I sparking out here? I feel like I'm sparking out.
+
+01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:46.880
+He just said that why doesn't there, you know, these A.I.
+
+01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:48.880
+These A.I. things exist.
+
+01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:53.880
+And you could just put it on your phone and you could tell your A.I.
+
+01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:57.880
+You could tell your A.I. where you live and your characteristics.
+
+01:16:57.880 --> 01:17:02.880
+And it could give you generic risk factors for COVID.
+
+01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:08.880
+You know, based on where you live and your lifestyle and your body fat and all other stuff.
+
+01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:15.880
+Why doesn't the government do that for us so that we can make informed decisions about what we should do next?
+
+01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:20.880
+Why doesn't the government give us an app on our phone where we can put in all of our biological data?
+
+01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:24.880
+And then the A.I. can tell us what to do?
+
+01:17:24.880 --> 01:17:29.880
+Why doesn't the government do something like that for us as Robert Malone?
+
+01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:34.880
+Why doesn't the government give us an A.I. on our phone that will tell us what to do, says Robert Malone?
+
+01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:37.880
+He and, you know, answer a little questionnaire about your characteristics where you live.
+
+01:17:37.880 --> 01:17:43.880
+And they will give you a numeric risk factor for what your risk is of getting hospitalized or dying from COVID.
+
+01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:45.880
+And why don't we have something like that?
+
+01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:46.880
+Why is that distributed by the government?
+
+01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:47.880
+The government wants to do us good.
+
+01:17:47.880 --> 01:17:48.880
+They ought to give us the information.
+
+01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:51.880
+Give us a tool to figure out our own risk and enable us to make informed decisions.
+
+01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:54.880
+Not take this authoritarian, you know, you're going to do this or else.
+
+01:17:54.880 --> 01:17:59.880
+We're going to make it so you can't get employment and you have to get tested every week and spend $250 a test.
+
+01:17:59.880 --> 01:18:02.880
+And all this kind of crazy talk that we're all, you know, being shoved down a throat.
+
+01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:03.880
+And why is the Biden administration doing this?
+
+01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:04.880
+I don't know.
+
+01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:06.880
+It seems so self-defeating.
+
+01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:13.880
+I mean, those populations you just talked about and the angry mothers and the young adults that are being forced to take the jab
+
+01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:14.880
+when they go back to university.
+
+01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:15.880
+That's it.
+
+01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:17.880
+Those populations don't vote democratic.
+
+01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:21.880
+It's going to be hard times in River City for this locian company.
+
+01:18:21.880 --> 01:18:25.880
+So I think that they're just cutting off their nose.
+
+01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:26.880
+Despite their face.
+
+01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:27.880
+I don't understand it.
+
+01:18:27.880 --> 01:18:28.880
+Doctor, I have one more question.
+
+01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:29.880
+Then we're going to go to Daryl.
+
+01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:30.880
+I'm going to call.
+
+01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:31.880
+So it's really all about votes.
+
+01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:35.880
+It's not about saving lives or, you know, it's about governance.
+
+01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:37.880
+It's about politics.
+
+01:18:37.880 --> 01:18:38.880
+It's about power.
+
+01:18:38.880 --> 01:18:39.880
+And influence.
+
+01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:41.880
+It's not about saving kids.
+
+01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:49.880
+He could just say right now, if I had one message, because he asked him, what is the one message you want to give to my viewers?
+
+01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:57.880
+He could have said, well, I'd like to tell all those college kids that it would be better to take a year off than to take a shot to go back.
+
+01:18:57.880 --> 01:18:59.880
+Because that's what I said.
+
+01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:07.880
+And I can't believe how many people wouldn't do it.
+
+01:19:07.880 --> 01:19:10.880
+I can't believe how many people thought that was crazy.
+
+01:19:11.880 --> 01:19:14.880
+But that's really what we should have said to all of them.
+
+01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:17.880
+And that would have ended this nonsense in one fell swoop.
+
+01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:19.880
+But nobody had the balls to say that.
+
+01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:21.880
+At least of all this guy.
+
+01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:25.880
+Because he wasn't coming out to save us.
+
+01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:29.880
+He was just coming out to make sure that we didn't stray from the narrative.
+
+01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:32.880
+That we didn't stray from the faith.
+
+01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:36.880
+That there was a novel virus that was called Delta at this time.
+
+01:19:37.880 --> 01:19:41.880
+That we had to do something and we probably should probably work pretty well.
+
+01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:43.880
+But it won't work if we give it to everybody.
+
+01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:47.880
+I mean, masks don't even work if we give those to everybody.
+
+01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:50.880
+But then goodness, we did something.
+
+01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:53.880
+And it might come again because, you know, they were doing, they were fooling around.
+
+01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:54.880
+And that's coming later.
+
+01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:56.880
+We're going to get them to come in later.
+
+01:19:56.880 --> 01:19:57.880
+The whole time.
+
+01:19:57.880 --> 01:19:58.880
+So they're all getting ready.
+
+01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:01.880
+Doctor, I want to try and answer your question.
+
+01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:03.880
+Your recent question will lie.
+
+01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:07.880
+Darren, I've discussed this and I believe and I've written that this is all destruction.
+
+01:20:07.880 --> 01:20:11.880
+Why we're back on the virus and vaccinations and testing and all this stuff is that the
+
+01:20:11.880 --> 01:20:17.880
+Democrats realize they got a problem called the border, called inflation, called rising
+
+01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:20.880
+prices of gasoline and food and lumber and everything else.
+
+01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:23.880
+And the American people are not happy.
+
+01:20:23.880 --> 01:20:29.880
+So the Democrats have to go back to fear and that's COVID and the new Delta virus to distract
+
+01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:33.880
+the American people using fear as a weapon to distract them away from the other problems
+
+01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:35.880
+that are going on in our country.
+
+01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:36.880
+So that's my answer to you.
+
+01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:40.880
+I like that hypothesis a lot better than there's a grand conspiracy at Davos between George
+
+01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:42.880
+Soros and Bill Gates and Tony Fauci.
+
+01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:45.880
+That's what you just laid out as real policy.
+
+01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:48.880
+And in my experience, that's the way the world really is.
+
+01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:52.880
+These grand conspiracies that happen among rich people, maybe they happen, maybe they don't,
+
+01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:53.880
+but they don't invite me.
+
+01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:55.880
+But that, which you just laid out, that's real world.
+
+01:20:55.880 --> 01:20:58.880
+And I think there is probably a lot of merit to that.
+
+01:20:58.880 --> 01:20:59.880
+You might guess you at any time you want.
+
+01:20:59.880 --> 01:21:00.880
+Daryl, it's up to you.
+
+01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:01.880
+Alrighty.
+
+01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:05.880
+I think there's a lot more merit to the idea that there are people on both sides of the
+
+01:21:05.880 --> 01:21:08.880
+aisle that are working together to do this and has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican,
+
+01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:11.880
+but they damn well would love you to think it does.
+
+01:21:11.880 --> 01:21:15.880
+They would love you to think it does.
+
+01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.880
+What do most people in America think of this guy right now?
+
+01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:21.880
+Do they think of him as blue or red?
+
+01:21:21.880 --> 01:21:25.880
+I have the feeling that the people on the view think of him as red.
+
+01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:31.880
+They might even think of him as white nationalists.
+
+01:21:31.880 --> 01:21:34.880
+And that's an illusion.
+
+01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:40.880
+Mark Hewsatonic, Mark Koolak has shown us over and over and over again in this guy's history
+
+01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:44.880
+that him and his wife have supported everybody on the left.
+
+01:21:44.880 --> 01:21:49.880
+They've praised Peter Hotez.
+
+01:21:49.880 --> 01:21:52.880
+They have praised Barack Obama.
+
+01:21:52.880 --> 01:22:00.880
+They have lambasted the idea that the election was stolen.
+
+01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:06.880
+This is incredible times, ladies and gentlemen, because the illusion is breaking.
+
+01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:11.880
+The House of Mirrors, somebody is going through the House of Mirrors right now.
+
+01:22:11.880 --> 01:22:16.880
+Mark and I are going through the House of Mirrors right now with hammers.
+
+01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:22.880
+And every room that we enter becomes less difficult to navigate once we leave it.
+
+01:22:22.880 --> 01:22:26.880
+And the House of Mirrors is running out of rooms, ladies and gentlemen,
+
+01:22:26.880 --> 01:22:29.880
+so people are starting to find the way out.
+
+01:22:29.880 --> 01:22:32.880
+Well, you know, Dr. Malone, I love you, brother.
+
+01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:34.880
+I mean, you still rock.
+
+01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:40.880
+All right, the question I have for you is, do you find it strange that after, I mean,
+
+01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:48.880
+the virus is, it is basically a man-made virus used for, some people call it warfare.
+
+01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:50.880
+Okay, we can deal with that word.
+
+01:22:50.880 --> 01:22:51.880
+And it was released.
+
+01:22:51.880 --> 01:23:01.880
+Do you find it strange that Fauci and the rest of the fun bunch really disavow themselves from it?
+
+01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:06.880
+So, to your point, let's take a ride in the way back machine.
+
+01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:09.880
+And remember, once a long ago that Mr. Biden came out and said,
+
+01:23:09.880 --> 01:23:12.880
+we're going to get to the bottom of this lab leak hypothesis.
+
+01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:15.880
+And I'm going to ask, and I'm going to insist on the CIA giving me the full story.
+
+01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:17.880
+And we're going to get to the bottom of this right away.
+
+01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:19.880
+And then it has been nothing but crickets chirping ever since.
+
+01:23:19.880 --> 01:23:24.880
+And that, but I swear, after he did that, I saw his face get long ever since.
+
+01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:26.880
+He just seems to have kind of gotten grim.
+
+01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:31.880
+And I, you know, this, you know, this is like, did he finally get access to the Kennedy?
+
+01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:33.880
+Of course this is on, you know, too.
+
+01:23:33.880 --> 01:23:38.880
+It, it sure looks like he had it come to Jesus moment and he didn't like it very much.
+
+01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:41.880
+And, um.
+
+01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:46.880
+I'll give you the lingola.
+
+01:23:46.880 --> 01:23:50.880
+For your archiving pleasure, I suggest you watch it.
+
+01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:56.880
+There it is.
+
+01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:04.880
+I mean, many of my peers are increasingly of the opinion that this has hallmarks of a product of gain of function research.
+
+01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:08.880
+The thing that I can't, which is a fancy way of saying that manufactured.
+
+01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:10.880
+The thing I can't.
+
+01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:13.880
+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
+
+01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:15.880
+You didn't sneak out the back door and move on.
+
+01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:19.880
+And yes, the signs are that both my friends at DOD and the good Dr. Fauci.
+
+01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:23.880
+Um, you know, we're told that you cannot do gain of function research.
+
+01:24:24.880 --> 01:24:27.880
+And so they, they kind of pivoted and said, oh, it's okay.
+
+01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:29.880
+We're going to let the Chinese to cook for that makes a lot of sense.
+
+01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:31.880
+And we're going to send them a bunch of money to do it.
+
+01:24:31.880 --> 01:24:35.880
+Um, so, so there's those, those, those red crumbs of this.
+
+01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:38.880
+So gain of function research and coronavirus has definitely happened.
+
+01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:40.880
+Uh, is this the product of that gain of function research?
+
+01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:41.880
+This is another one of those.
+
+01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:42.880
+It looks like a duck.
+
+01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:43.880
+It walks like a duck.
+
+01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:44.880
+It quacks like a duck.
+
+01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:45.880
+But how can you approve?
+
+01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:46.880
+It's a duck.
+
+01:24:46.880 --> 01:24:47.880
+Um, you know, maybe it's a pigeon.
+
+01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:48.880
+Uh, but it sure looks like a duck.
+
+01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:49.880
+And, uh, the thing I can't sort out and I don't know.
+
+01:24:49.880 --> 01:24:52.880
+Anybody can is did it escape out the back door at the Wuhan lab?
+
+01:24:52.880 --> 01:24:54.880
+You know, by, and they're filling the blank.
+
+01:24:54.880 --> 01:24:55.880
+There's a number of ways that could happen.
+
+01:24:55.880 --> 01:24:57.880
+There was an event in the laboratory.
+
+01:24:57.880 --> 01:24:59.880
+People got infected and then they walked around and spread it because it has a long
+
+01:24:59.880 --> 01:25:03.880
+prodrome period was somebody selling dead carcasses from laboratory animals
+
+01:25:03.880 --> 01:25:05.880
+out the back door to go to the secret.
+
+01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:07.880
+A long prodrome period.
+
+01:25:07.880 --> 01:25:09.880
+Who else used that word?
+
+01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:11.880
+Dr. Giordano used that word.
+
+01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:13.880
+I think he called it a predrome.
+
+01:25:14.880 --> 01:25:16.880
+Predrome old period.
+
+01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:25.880
+I mean, we're talking about the worst kind of Scooby-Doo being laid out right here
+
+01:25:25.880 --> 01:25:27.880
+just right before your eyes.
+
+01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:35.880
+Just like the leaked CDC slide deck reveals that they've been covering up the
+
+01:25:35.880 --> 01:25:37.880
+fact that the vaccine won't stop Delta.
+
+01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:42.880
+And covering up the fact that natural immunity only lasts for about six
+
+01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:44.880
+months, just like the vaccine.
+
+01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:50.880
+How cooinky, dinky, curious is that now we can't say the vaccine doesn't work
+
+01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:52.880
+because our own bodies don't work.
+
+01:25:56.880 --> 01:26:00.880
+And now he's telling us that another sort of kind of leak thing
+
+01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:04.880
+where people are slowly telling us the truth.
+
+01:26:06.880 --> 01:26:10.880
+It's all being done with the same tactics all the time.
+
+01:26:10.880 --> 01:26:14.880
+Making you feel like that you're watching a mystery being solved.
+
+01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:16.880
+You're catching people in their lives.
+
+01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:18.880
+Masks are being removed.
+
+01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:22.880
+And eventually there's going to be a perp walk.
+
+01:26:22.880 --> 01:26:28.880
+And one of these really fancy lawyers, you know, like Thomas Wrens or
+
+01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:32.880
+I don't know, Barnes or somebody else is going to be
+
+01:26:32.880 --> 01:26:35.880
+standing at some podium saying we brought justice.
+
+01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:39.880
+It's not going to happen.
+
+01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:45.880
+The market would be, you know, or, or, you know, animals off experiment.
+
+01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:47.880
+That kind of thing totally makes sense.
+
+01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:50.880
+Having worked at the Primate Research Center, you know, there's always
+
+01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:54.880
+interest in recycling lab animals after they've been used any way you can.
+
+01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:57.880
+And if it was a country like China where you got people eating, you know,
+
+01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:01.880
+buying live animals in a market, it's located just a couple blocks from the
+
+01:27:01.880 --> 01:27:05.880
+fiberball GS to kind of why wouldn't that happen?
+
+01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:06.880
+You'd expect it to happen almost.
+
+01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:09.880
+They'd have to have pretty tight controls to keep it from happening, you know,
+
+01:27:09.880 --> 01:27:11.880
+the janitor, right?
+
+01:27:11.880 --> 01:27:13.880
+You know, look at the collection.
+
+01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:16.880
+It's all like, hey, I can make an extra buck or yen or whatever the monetary thing
+
+01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:17.880
+is.
+
+01:27:17.880 --> 01:27:18.880
+And you know, how can you say this wouldn't happen?
+
+01:27:18.880 --> 01:27:20.880
+The other thing that could have happened, and you mentioned the word
+
+01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:25.880
+biowarefare or bioweapon, there's no way to rule out that somebody didn't
+
+01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:27.880
+let this puppy lose intentionally.
+
+01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:28.880
+And who would have let, who would want.
+
+01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:31.880
+And that's the trick about clones that everybody needs to understand.
+
+01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:35.880
+If you let this puppy out intentionally and you only had a glass full,
+
+01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:37.880
+it wouldn't go anywhere.
+
+01:27:37.880 --> 01:27:41.880
+If you let this puppy out intentionally and you had it aerosolized
+
+01:27:41.880 --> 01:27:44.880
+and you had several liters of it and you applied it in the right place,
+
+01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:47.880
+it could go somewhere for a while.
+
+01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:52.880
+Fill it, fill a plane full of it, and it could go somewhere for a while.
+
+01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:58.880
+But like the original SARS virus that infected roughly 10,000 people
+
+01:27:58.880 --> 01:28:03.880
+and killed 700, there's not really much more that a clone can do.
+
+01:28:03.880 --> 01:28:10.880
+But what it can do, if applied widely enough, is be cloned.
+
+01:28:10.880 --> 01:28:13.880
+I mean, sorry, be sequenced.
+
+01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:15.880
+And that sequence can be shared.
+
+01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:20.880
+And so people in Italy and in Iran and Wuhan and in Washington
+
+01:28:21.880 --> 01:28:23.880
+can all find the same sequence.
+
+01:28:23.880 --> 01:28:25.880
+And it can be very high fidelity.
+
+01:28:25.880 --> 01:28:32.880
+It can be very easy to culture and get a very high fidelity sequence read on it.
+
+01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:34.880
+And is he going to tell you that?
+
+01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:35.880
+No.
+
+01:28:35.880 --> 01:28:39.880
+Is he going to explain to you why it would be very rare for an RNA to do this?
+
+01:28:39.880 --> 01:28:40.880
+No.
+
+01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:44.880
+He's just going to talk about how it got out and how it would be almost impossible
+
+01:28:44.880 --> 01:28:47.880
+to stop it from getting out.
+
+01:28:47.880 --> 01:28:51.880
+But if it doesn't get out in sufficient quantities, where's it going to go?
+
+01:28:51.880 --> 01:28:53.880
+It's going to go nowhere.
+
+01:28:53.880 --> 01:28:55.880
+Nowhere.
+
+01:28:55.880 --> 01:28:57.880
+Nowhere.
+
+01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:03.880
+It's not quite a watch, okay?
+
+01:29:03.880 --> 01:29:05.880
+But it's kind of like a watch.
+
+01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:09.880
+You make a really fancy watch that works really well.
+
+01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:13.880
+You put it out on the street and people can make it.
+
+01:29:13.880 --> 01:29:15.880
+And they've never seen a watch before.
+
+01:29:15.880 --> 01:29:17.880
+Somebody might try to make it.
+
+01:29:17.880 --> 01:29:21.880
+And somebody might be able to make it pretty well, but not very many people.
+
+01:29:21.880 --> 01:29:25.880
+And the ones that can make it well will be able to sell those watches that they make.
+
+01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:30.880
+But they won't go very far either because those people won't be able to repair them
+
+01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:32.880
+and they won't want to make them.
+
+01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:35.880
+And some people will learn how to make those, but they won't be as good as the original ones
+
+01:29:35.880 --> 01:29:37.880
+because the original one is much better.
+
+01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:43.880
+And if you don't have that one to look at, you don't really have a model to make.
+
+01:29:43.880 --> 01:29:48.880
+And so if you make the most perfect watch in the world and you put it out on the street
+
+01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:53.880
+in the most perfect watchmaking city in Switzerland,
+
+01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:58.880
+it's not going to take over the whole watchmaking industry and spread all around the world
+
+01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:00.880
+until everybody was wearing that watch.
+
+01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:06.880
+No matter how good it is, because that's not the way the way this thing works.
+
+01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:08.880
+That's not the way these things work.
+
+01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:16.880
+And if there is an occasional virus that is detectable in that way,
+
+01:30:16.880 --> 01:30:22.880
+is uniform in that way, it's not able to pandemic because, as he just said earlier,
+
+01:30:22.880 --> 01:30:26.880
+genetically each of our responses is unique.
+
+01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:34.880
+Just like our genetic code is unique, our immune response is based largely
+
+01:30:35.880 --> 01:30:39.880
+on genetic sequences found in our genome,
+
+01:30:39.880 --> 01:30:43.880
+which are generated by the combination of immune sequences from your mother
+
+01:30:43.880 --> 01:30:45.880
+and from your father.
+
+01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:51.880
+And that combination, by definition, is unique even from your brothers and sisters.
+
+01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:56.880
+And therefore, when a virus moves through you and it avoids your immune system
+
+01:30:56.880 --> 01:31:02.880
+and able to replicate because of its fitness
+
+01:31:02.880 --> 01:31:05.880
+because of its shape or however you want to imagine it,
+
+01:31:05.880 --> 01:31:09.880
+when it encounters the immune system of your family member,
+
+01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:15.880
+it's not going to encounter somebody with the same holes in their armor.
+
+01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:20.880
+Because for the same virus that your brother met,
+
+01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:23.880
+he will have a whole different complement of T cells that are aimed
+
+01:31:23.880 --> 01:31:27.880
+at a whole different complement of epitopes.
+
+01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:30.880
+Some of them will focus on the RNA-dependent RNA polymerase.
+
+01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:33.880
+Some will focus on the end protein, but none of them will focus on exactly
+
+01:31:33.880 --> 01:31:38.880
+the same epitopes that your immune system focused on.
+
+01:31:38.880 --> 01:31:44.880
+And so even if the precise fit of this coronavirus was good for you,
+
+01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:47.880
+it's not going to be good for everybody around you
+
+01:31:47.880 --> 01:31:50.880
+because they too have coronavirus immunity,
+
+01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:53.880
+but it's very different than yours.
+
+01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:56.880
+It's so different, it's unique.
+
+01:31:56.880 --> 01:31:59.880
+Just as Robert Malone pointed out 20 minutes ago in this video.
+
+01:31:59.880 --> 01:32:04.880
+To let loose an agent in the literally beating industrial heart of China,
+
+01:32:04.880 --> 01:32:07.880
+I doubt it was the People's Republic of China.
+
+01:32:07.880 --> 01:32:13.880
+So I can't resolve these different potential ways that this agent could have gotten loose,
+
+01:32:13.880 --> 01:32:15.880
+but the fearing cleavage site and some of the other signs,
+
+01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:17.880
+whether or not there is an HIV sequence in there.
+
+01:32:17.880 --> 01:32:20.880
+The veer and cleavage site,
+
+01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:24.880
+so an extra enzyme site makes it possible for it to pandemic,
+
+01:32:24.880 --> 01:32:27.880
+according to people like Rick See.
+
+01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:31.880
+And his evidence is that because when they find a fear and cleavage site,
+
+01:32:31.880 --> 01:32:35.880
+they take it out of the flu vaccine.
+
+01:32:35.880 --> 01:32:38.880
+And so they're real careful about fear and cleavage site with the flu vaccine.
+
+01:32:38.880 --> 01:32:42.880
+They never put that in flu vaccines.
+
+01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:45.880
+And so that must mean that a fear and cleavage site in the coronavirus
+
+01:32:45.880 --> 01:32:51.880
+would mean like a nuclear bomb, you know, like kim.com nuclear bomb.
+
+01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:53.880
+And so he mentions fear and cleavage site.
+
+01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:56.880
+He mentions the AIDS sequences.
+
+01:32:56.880 --> 01:32:59.880
+Why HIV sequences? Why does he do that?
+
+01:32:59.880 --> 01:33:02.880
+Because it's a Scooby-Doo.
+
+01:33:02.880 --> 01:33:06.880
+Because he is laying down all the narrative.
+
+01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:11.880
+Maybe he's going to repeat this leaked slide deck again.
+
+01:33:11.880 --> 01:33:15.880
+It kind of, it looks an awful lot like something that came out of laboratory research.
+
+01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:19.880
+But in the sense, it kind of doesn't matter because here we are.
+
+01:33:19.880 --> 01:33:21.880
+You know, it's gone worldwide.
+
+01:33:21.880 --> 01:33:26.880
+Now, one of the things about this, all this issue about what happened to women is that...
+
+01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:29.880
+So it kind of doesn't matter because it's already gone worldwide.
+
+01:33:29.880 --> 01:33:32.880
+Now, how magical is that if it was a background?
+
+01:33:32.880 --> 01:33:37.880
+How magical is that spell that he just cast?
+
+01:33:37.880 --> 01:33:40.880
+If this is really just a background coronavirus signal,
+
+01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:45.880
+a background exosomal signal, a background RNA virus signal,
+
+01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:49.880
+it would have been detectable just as robustly in 2018
+
+01:33:49.880 --> 01:33:54.880
+as it was in 2019, as it was in 2020.
+
+01:33:54.880 --> 01:33:57.880
+And it was the rollout of all these crazy protocols
+
+01:33:57.880 --> 01:33:59.880
+and the assumption that we didn't know what we were doing
+
+01:33:59.880 --> 01:34:02.880
+and that antibiotics don't work on a virus
+
+01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:07.880
+that ended up making this disease or this signal
+
+01:34:07.880 --> 01:34:09.880
+that was detectable by PCR.
+
+01:34:09.880 --> 01:34:11.880
+This signal became deadly because of the protocols.
+
+01:34:11.880 --> 01:34:15.880
+What if that's the case?
+
+01:34:16.880 --> 01:34:19.880
+And that that signal was always there.
+
+01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:22.880
+And then he says something like this.
+
+01:34:22.880 --> 01:34:26.880
+But in the sense, it kind of doesn't matter because here we are.
+
+01:34:26.880 --> 01:34:27.880
+You know, it's gone worldwide.
+
+01:34:27.880 --> 01:34:29.880
+Now, one of the things about this...
+
+01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:31.880
+What does it mean if he says that?
+
+01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:33.880
+Laboratory research.
+
+01:34:33.880 --> 01:34:36.880
+But in the sense, it kind of doesn't matter because here we are.
+
+01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:37.880
+You know, it's gone worldwide.
+
+01:34:37.880 --> 01:34:39.880
+Now, one of the things about this, all this...
+
+01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:43.880
+It means that you've already accepted the faith.
+
+01:34:43.880 --> 01:34:48.880
+And so then the only thing left to do is solve the scooby-doo.
+
+01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:52.880
+You are being bamboozled by this man and others
+
+01:34:52.880 --> 01:34:55.880
+to accept the faith in a common novel virus
+
+01:34:55.880 --> 01:34:59.880
+for which everyone was vulnerable.
+
+01:34:59.880 --> 01:35:02.880
+You are being bamboozled into accepting the faith
+
+01:35:02.880 --> 01:35:06.880
+that the mRNA was effective
+
+01:35:06.880 --> 01:35:08.880
+just as we chose the wrong protein
+
+01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:11.880
+and that we can't vaccinate it into the teeth of a pandemic
+
+01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:15.880
+and that it's the reason why Delta is avoiding us
+
+01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:19.880
+and the reason why all these variants will avoid us.
+
+01:35:19.880 --> 01:35:24.880
+It's not that the transfection is wholly inadequate to augment the immune system.
+
+01:35:24.880 --> 01:35:27.880
+It's nothing to do with the dangers of transfection.
+
+01:35:27.880 --> 01:35:31.880
+It has to do with the unfortunate consequences
+
+01:35:31.880 --> 01:35:35.880
+of gain-of-function research in a pandemic.
+
+01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:38.880
+But it doesn't really matter if it's gain-of-function research.
+
+01:35:38.880 --> 01:35:40.880
+I mean, yeah, you can tell stories and make people scared,
+
+01:35:40.880 --> 01:35:43.880
+but it doesn't really matter because it's here now.
+
+01:35:43.880 --> 01:35:47.880
+But it might be a great reason to take the shot, you know,
+
+01:35:47.880 --> 01:35:50.880
+because you don't want gain-of-function long COVID.
+
+01:35:50.880 --> 01:35:52.880
+I mean, a long COVID was bad before,
+
+01:35:52.880 --> 01:35:54.880
+but gain-of-function long COVID.
+
+01:35:54.880 --> 01:35:56.880
+Now, that shit's bad.
+
+01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:58.880
+The issue about what happened in World War II
+
+01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:00.880
+is that I had this colleague that I published with before
+
+01:36:00.880 --> 01:36:03.880
+who works for one of our three better agencies in the government.
+
+01:36:03.880 --> 01:36:07.880
+And early on, he assured me that this absolutely was not a lably
+
+01:36:07.880 --> 01:36:09.880
+and it was not an engineered virus.
+
+01:36:09.880 --> 01:36:10.880
+Absolutely.
+
+01:36:10.880 --> 01:36:11.880
+He said, my guys have looked at it carefully
+
+01:36:11.880 --> 01:36:13.880
+and it has none of the signs of being engineered.
+
+01:36:13.880 --> 01:36:15.880
+Well, he said that so early in the outbreak
+
+01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:17.880
+that that in and of itself is a little odd.
+
+01:36:17.880 --> 01:36:21.880
+And he told me the story that the Chinese had this amazing infrastructure
+
+01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:24.880
+that they'd spent over a billion a year on for years and years
+
+01:36:24.880 --> 01:36:27.880
+after the SARS outbreak designed to contain any SARS-like virus,
+
+01:36:27.880 --> 01:36:29.880
+whole bunch of infrastructure.
+
+01:36:29.880 --> 01:36:30.880
+Now, clearly, that didn't work so good.
+
+01:36:30.880 --> 01:36:33.880
+It's like imagine a line in France to keep the German tanks away.
+
+01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:34.880
+You remember how well that worked.
+
+01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:36.880
+But they thought they had this.
+
+01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:41.880
+So one could imagine a scenario wherein an agent was released
+
+01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:44.880
+with a full expectation that they would damage the Chinese economy,
+
+01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:46.880
+but they would keep it in check.
+
+01:36:46.880 --> 01:36:47.880
+So did that happen?
+
+01:36:47.880 --> 01:36:48.880
+I don't know.
+
+01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:49.880
+It's a possibility.
+
+01:36:49.880 --> 01:36:51.880
+The other thing about this, as you mentioned,
+
+01:36:51.880 --> 01:36:53.880
+is that I mentioned the tree.
+
+01:36:53.880 --> 01:36:58.880
+So an agent was released in Wuhan
+
+01:36:58.880 --> 01:37:00.880
+and they thought that China would contain it,
+
+01:37:00.880 --> 01:37:01.880
+but they didn't contain it.
+
+01:37:01.880 --> 01:37:05.880
+So how do we explain what happened in Iran then?
+
+01:37:05.880 --> 01:37:10.880
+This is some shady business right here.
+
+01:37:10.880 --> 01:37:13.880
+This is some magic campfire story shit right here,
+
+01:37:13.880 --> 01:37:17.880
+and we've got to wake up and apologize for not seeing it earlier
+
+01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:20.880
+because this is some real wicked stuff.
+
+01:37:20.880 --> 01:37:25.880
+We are really in the midst of uncovering the most malevolent scheme
+
+01:37:25.880 --> 01:37:28.880
+in American history.
+
+01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:31.880
+People playing both sides of the aisle,
+
+01:37:31.880 --> 01:37:36.880
+red team and blue team are hurting us into the avatar as we speak.
+
+01:37:36.880 --> 01:37:38.880
+That we have with most nations,
+
+01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:42.880
+in which we agree that we're not going to produce legal bioworefer agents
+
+01:37:42.880 --> 01:37:43.880
+and just deploy them.
+
+01:37:43.880 --> 01:37:44.880
+We shut all that down.
+
+01:37:44.880 --> 01:37:45.880
+We used to do it.
+
+01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:46.880
+We developed some of the most legal in the world.
+
+01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:47.880
+We've never seen before.
+
+01:37:47.880 --> 01:37:48.880
+We actually tested them in the field.
+
+01:37:48.880 --> 01:37:49.880
+That's no longer classified.
+
+01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:50.880
+So I can mention it.
+
+01:37:50.880 --> 01:37:54.880
+We developed some really nasty stuff in the 60s that worked like gamebusters.
+
+01:37:54.880 --> 01:37:57.880
+But then we signed this treaty with the Soviet Union and others
+
+01:37:57.880 --> 01:37:59.880
+saying that we wouldn't do it, they wouldn't do it.
+
+01:37:59.880 --> 01:38:02.880
+But what the treaty doesn't say is that you can't develop and deploy
+
+01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:03.880
+what are called incapacitating agents.
+
+01:38:03.880 --> 01:38:07.880
+These are things that make you so sick that you're not willing to go carry a gun
+
+01:38:07.880 --> 01:38:08.880
+or fight anybody.
+
+01:38:08.880 --> 01:38:09.880
+You're not willing to do much of anything.
+
+01:38:09.880 --> 01:38:11.880
+You know, maybe you've got a really bad headache or whatever,
+
+01:38:11.880 --> 01:38:13.880
+or meningitis, but it doesn't kill you.
+
+01:38:13.880 --> 01:38:15.880
+Well, technically those things are still allowed.
+
+01:38:15.880 --> 01:38:18.880
+And I can tell you that our government is very aware of that, that's the case.
+
+01:38:18.880 --> 01:38:20.880
+And that's why they pay people like me, in part,
+
+01:38:20.880 --> 01:38:22.880
+but directly or indirectly, is to come up with new systems
+
+01:38:22.880 --> 01:38:26.880
+so that make it so that if somebody does deploy an incapacitating agent,
+
+01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:29.880
+we have things that will protect our firefighters from that.
+
+01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:33.880
+But the scenario that you've mentioned, as I'm saying,
+
+01:38:33.880 --> 01:38:37.880
+there's no way that I can say who the good guys were and who the bad guys were.
+
+01:38:37.880 --> 01:38:39.880
+It's just too twisted up to make miracles.
+
+01:38:39.880 --> 01:38:43.880
+Well, I mean, you gave a very nice explanation of it.
+
+01:38:43.880 --> 01:38:44.880
+And it was kind.
+
+01:38:44.880 --> 01:38:45.880
+I like what you said.
+
+01:38:45.880 --> 01:38:46.880
+It was very kind.
+
+01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:48.880
+And instead of just saying, excuse me,
+
+01:38:48.880 --> 01:38:49.880
+now you're in pharmaceuticals.
+
+01:38:49.880 --> 01:38:51.880
+At first you were doing this, Fauci.
+
+01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:54.880
+Now the whole fun bunch is on another level.
+
+01:38:54.880 --> 01:39:04.880
+Can we accurately say that the HIV AIDS virus was data functioning?
+
+01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:05.880
+No.
+
+01:39:05.880 --> 01:39:12.880
+That has been traced really thoroughly back into primate populations in Africa.
+
+01:39:12.880 --> 01:39:14.880
+So that one has pretty well been run to ground.
+
+01:39:14.880 --> 01:39:18.880
+Now, I can tell you that having been discovered,
+
+01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:21.880
+people that I used to work next to at UC Davis,
+
+01:39:21.880 --> 01:39:24.880
+we're busy doing data function research and creating hybrid viruses
+
+01:39:24.880 --> 01:39:27.880
+between the human AIDS virus and the monkey AIDS virus
+
+01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:29.880
+and putting inside of kinds and other things
+
+01:39:29.880 --> 01:39:31.880
+to make those recombinants more pathogenic.
+
+01:39:31.880 --> 01:39:32.880
+And they thought that was perfectly okay.
+
+01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:36.880
+When I objected to them, they did everything they could to drive me out of the laboratory.
+
+01:39:36.880 --> 01:39:39.880
+But we talked about this before, you know,
+
+01:39:39.880 --> 01:39:44.880
+there are some kind of science people that they think that they...
+
+01:39:44.880 --> 01:39:46.880
+That sound wasn't in my room.
+
+01:39:46.880 --> 01:39:50.880
+That seems to confirm the idea that Gallo was mixing a bunch of sarcoma viruses
+
+01:39:50.880 --> 01:39:54.880
+in a dish to try and get them to recombine in the nastier things,
+
+01:39:54.880 --> 01:40:01.880
+which is what that guy that was lost his mind over the AIDS virus
+
+01:40:01.880 --> 01:40:05.880
+and did all those really nice documentaries said for a very long time
+
+01:40:05.880 --> 01:40:10.880
+and that he even confronted Gallo in a videotaped press conference
+
+01:40:10.880 --> 01:40:15.880
+where Gallo made fun of him for saying that he did that stuff, but he did it.
+
+01:40:15.880 --> 01:40:18.880
+And here's Robert Malone regaling the same tale
+
+01:40:18.880 --> 01:40:22.880
+and about how he said it wasn't a good idea either.
+
+01:40:22.880 --> 01:40:26.880
+Is he absorbing that guy's story right now
+
+01:40:26.880 --> 01:40:30.880
+and pretending that he spoke out against the recombinant
+
+01:40:30.880 --> 01:40:33.880
+fooling around with sarcoma viruses from different animals?
+
+01:40:33.880 --> 01:40:36.880
+Is he really saying that? I think he is.
+
+01:40:36.880 --> 01:40:40.880
+Are sufficient smartness and training and status
+
+01:40:40.880 --> 01:40:42.880
+but they should be allowed to play with their toys
+
+01:40:42.880 --> 01:40:44.880
+and we don't have the right to tell them not to.
+
+01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:47.880
+And clearly that's not the case.
+
+01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:49.880
+And somehow we've got to reign those people in
+
+01:40:49.880 --> 01:40:53.880
+and make it so that if they do play with their toys in ways that we all agree they shouldn't,
+
+01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:58.880
+they lose their right to have anything to do with this space.
+
+01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:02.880
+And it's not okay when we say no, no, no, you can't do that.
+
+01:41:02.880 --> 01:41:03.880
+You can't play with your toys like that.
+
+01:41:03.880 --> 01:41:06.880
+They just go offshore and go do it through surrogates in China.
+
+01:41:06.880 --> 01:41:11.880
+That deserves a pretty heavy response in my opinion, but nothing is being done.
+
+01:41:11.880 --> 01:41:13.880
+You know, there's no consequences.
+
+01:41:13.880 --> 01:41:15.880
+And so what do you think is going to happen next time?
+
+01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:19.880
+Everybody's going to look at that and they're going to say, well, who cares?
+
+01:41:19.880 --> 01:41:23.880
+So what? Those are the rules. I can do whatever I want because you're not going to come after.
+
+01:41:23.880 --> 01:41:25.880
+Right? Isn't that the way that works?
+
+01:41:25.880 --> 01:41:28.880
+That's the way it looks like it works. I mean, in modern times.
+
+01:41:28.880 --> 01:41:32.880
+If I can go rock the Bank of America down the street and everybody says, oh, that's okay, boy.
+
+01:41:32.880 --> 01:41:35.880
+You know, you are smart and well educated and we're not going to do anything about it.
+
+01:41:35.880 --> 01:41:37.880
+Next time I might, who needs an ATM?
+
+01:41:38.880 --> 01:41:43.880
+So how come that doesn't apply to vaccines? How come that doesn't apply to countermeasures?
+
+01:41:43.880 --> 01:41:46.880
+How come that doesn't apply to working on DOD contracts?
+
+01:41:46.880 --> 01:41:51.880
+Of course it applies to that. It's what he's describing himself when he's laughing about that.
+
+01:41:51.880 --> 01:41:54.880
+Who needs an ATM when you can get government contracts?
+
+01:41:54.880 --> 01:41:58.880
+Who needs an ATM when you can get no bid government contracts?
+
+01:41:58.880 --> 01:42:05.880
+Who needs an ATM when you can work for DITRA and contract for people who work for DITRA?
+
+01:42:05.880 --> 01:42:12.880
+Who needs an ATM when your best friend who used to sleep on your couch is the head of science DITRA?
+
+01:42:12.880 --> 01:42:17.880
+So, you know, I just don't know what to say. There just doesn't seem to be any rules anymore
+
+01:42:17.880 --> 01:42:21.880
+that apply to these people that are in these positions.
+
+01:42:21.880 --> 01:42:24.880
+The thing that's blown my mind is the justice that this happened a couple weeks ago.
+
+01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:28.880
+The justice department, the Biden administration got their justice department to put down a decision
+
+01:42:28.880 --> 01:42:34.880
+saying that the FDA is not bound by the common rule and all of the federal law that has to do
+
+01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:37.880
+with clinical research protections for human subjects.
+
+01:42:37.880 --> 01:42:40.880
+So, yeah, that doesn't mean that remember tough TV.
+
+01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:46.880
+You're right. And there's now a formal opinion that the FDA doesn't have to abide by those rules.
+
+01:42:46.880 --> 01:42:53.880
+I thought Congress got together and said, hey, why is he smiling so much?
+
+01:42:53.880 --> 01:42:57.880
+I'm going to go to bed because it's 11 o'clock and I don't want to cut it off so short,
+
+01:42:57.880 --> 01:43:01.880
+but I also don't want it. I don't want it to go any longer.
+
+01:43:01.880 --> 01:43:09.880
+And I'm done. I gave you the stream once. I'm going to give it to you again, or the video, rather,
+
+01:43:09.880 --> 01:43:12.880
+so that if you want to watch the rest of it, you can.
+
+01:43:12.880 --> 01:43:26.880
+And if you find something interesting, please give me a link to it and we'll get on with it from there.
+
+01:43:27.880 --> 01:43:36.880
+I don't know. I just feel like at some point, you know, the message is out and we've got to just keep pushing.
+
+01:43:36.880 --> 01:43:44.880
+All we got to do is keep pushing. Remember that I think that they told us that there was a novel virus, but there really wasn't.
+
+01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:49.880
+And there was probably a clone which they used to seed the pandemic in different places.
+
+01:43:49.880 --> 01:43:54.880
+And depending on how much clone they actually distributed it and how they distributed it,
+
+01:43:54.880 --> 01:43:59.880
+many people could have shown various symptoms depending on what that clone was.
+
+01:43:59.880 --> 01:44:09.880
+If it was a clone of the entire virus or just a transvection of the spike, any of these would have been expected to cause some kind of immune response.
+
+01:44:09.880 --> 01:44:16.880
+Now, if the goal was to sequence the virus and make sure that it was many places, they would have used the whole clone.
+
+01:44:17.880 --> 01:44:23.880
+The point is that they rolled this in with influenza and any other respiratory virus
+
+01:44:23.880 --> 01:44:30.880
+and any other poor person with multiple core morbidities that they could as long as the PCR test was positive
+
+01:44:30.880 --> 01:44:33.880
+or as long as they could manage to sneak them in.
+
+01:44:33.880 --> 01:44:41.880
+And I think in places like New York City, some really nasty things went on in order to seed the narrative.
+
+01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:46.880
+Something really bad had to happen in New York for everybody else to believe what was going on
+
+01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:51.880
+in order for these protocols to be enforced all around the United States.
+
+01:44:51.880 --> 01:45:00.880
+And the protocols allowed this graph down here to happen and their plan is really to take it all away from us.
+
+01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:04.880
+It's for all the marbles, ladies and gentlemen. It's really for all the marbles.
+
+01:45:04.880 --> 01:45:07.880
+It's for your kids' futures and it's for your grandchildren's futures.
+
+01:45:07.880 --> 01:45:13.880
+It's for all the marbles. If you want to talk to me or chat with me, you can go to GigaOM.Bio
+
+01:45:13.880 --> 01:45:20.880
+or you can go to GigaOMbiological.com and you can find the soapbox link, which will also take you there.
+
+01:45:20.880 --> 01:45:26.880
+This has been GigaOM Biological High Resistance Low Noise Information Street brought to you by a biologist.
+
+01:45:26.880 --> 01:45:32.880
+Transfection is an immunization and injection of any combination of chemicals into your muscle
+
+01:45:32.880 --> 01:45:35.880
+in order to augment your immune system is dumb.
+
+01:45:35.880 --> 01:45:42.880
+Again, stop all transfections and humans because they're trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary.
+
+01:45:42.880 --> 01:45:49.880
+Thanks very much for joining me, guys.
+
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+There's been a lot of people here tonight. Wow, a hundred something. That's really great.
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+I am Katniss, Susie. Fun times. I see a lot of people. I recognize. I'm really happy.
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+I hope you're seeing how much work I'm putting in.
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+I hope I'm doing all of my subscribers service here and making them proud.
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+01:46:14.880 --> 01:46:20.880
+It's three years, man. Three years we've been doing this now.
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+01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:27.880
+Really, really three years we've been doing this. Thanks very much for making it possible.
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+01:46:28.880 --> 01:46:33.880
+Don't forget to check this out. It's a really good introduction to me.
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+01:46:33.880 --> 01:46:39.880
+If you want to share something that somebody has never met before, this would probably be the one.
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+01:46:39.880 --> 01:46:45.880
+And then after that, we can invite them to the stream and push them into the deep end.
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+01:46:45.880 --> 01:46:47.880
+Thanks, guys.
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+Keep the flashlight forward, baby. Keep the flashlight forward.
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+01:47:06.880 --> 01:47:10.880
+Love you, Pamela. Good to see you, Jason. M.
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+01:47:10.880 --> 01:47:13.880
+Meltdown. Lisa.
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+The Baeke.
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+I don't know what that is, H.I.D.
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+01:47:18.880 --> 01:47:20.880
+Garden variety, humans. Good to see you.
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+01:47:20.880 --> 01:47:27.880
+You can apply six. All you guys, thanks for joining me. I'll see you guys again tomorrow.
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+01:47:41.880 --> 01:47:44.880
+You got to watch the whole one, though, Piano Fab. Not just half of it.
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+01:47:44.880 --> 01:47:50.880
+The part where I start drawing is actually the best part, so if you haven't seen me drawing, you're missing it.
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+Have no responsibility for the current pandemic
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+It's gonna be a real quick hit tonight, ladies and gentlemen, I have a special guest coming in town
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+But I didn't expect so I need to run out to the airport and
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+green and old friends
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+I'm really excited about tonight, but I also didn't want to break the streak
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+I didn't want to break the streak. I don't plan to break the streak anytime soon. I
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+Think we're on evening number 19. Maybe evening number 20 in a row
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+I've been wanting to do this
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+Time if you've got to meet Bobby today, you know, what's up?
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+If you got to meet Bobby today, then you know what's up
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+There's some really big things happening. I don't know what it means
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+Gosh, I hope he's a good guy
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+We love you mark just get to it when you can my friend
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+You
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+Schedule for 60 minutes next
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+He's going on French British Italian
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+Japanese television people everywhere are starting to listen to him
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+embarrassing
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+Oh
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+Yeah, I forgot. I'll change this one. Sorry about that
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+Mystery captain Cutler and his wife taken into custody by sure that was some plan they had
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+first spreading the phony story about cover and
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+Then stealing the yachts from the marina that night on the beach
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+Cutler was storing extra scuba tanks in the graveyard of shit. Yeah, but like his diving suit
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+Got covered with that coopy glowing seaweed
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+And that's where the glowing ghost story came from well
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+How did Scooby do with that I guess that's another mystery
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+All right, here we go ladies and gentlemen welcome to the show
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+Oh
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+Good afternoon good evening good morning and good night wherever you are in this planet
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+04:51.720 --> 04:56.560
+This is giggle and biological high-resistance low-noise information brief brought to you by a biologist
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+04:56.560 --> 04:58.560
+It's the 24th of September
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+04:59.880 --> 05:02.480
+2023 and we are still fighting
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+05:02.920 --> 05:08.760
+this limited but lively spectrum of debate about gain a function virus and
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+05:09.320 --> 05:12.000
+About how the protocols just simply don't matter
+
+05:16.160 --> 05:20.240
+Thank you Jessica Hockett, thank you Dennis Rancor
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+05:21.120 --> 05:26.120
+Thank you mark you satanic. Thank you Nick Hudson. Thank you
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+05:26.800 --> 05:28.800
+To Thomas Binder
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+05:28.800 --> 05:30.800
+Thank you to Peter McCullough
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+05:31.640 --> 05:36.760
+Thank you to Robert F Kennedy Jr. Thank you to everybody who's speaking out against
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+The scam that is the childhood vaccination schedule in the United States of America
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+05:42.240 --> 05:48.160
+You're dang right, I'm saying it. I'm saying it out loud
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+05:48.160 --> 05:51.720
+I'm not gonna be ashamed of it anymore. This is the way we need to talk
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+05:52.920 --> 05:55.080
+Because they're gonna talk like we're crazy
+
+05:55.640 --> 05:59.920
+So we might as well push it all the way over the finish line and all the way into the end zone
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+06:00.640 --> 06:02.640
+Because they're gonna say we're cheating anyway
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+06:04.560 --> 06:06.960
+And so we need to dunk the ball we need to
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+06:07.840 --> 06:11.960
+Spike the ball and the touchdown. We need to do whatever they do and rugby to celebrate
+
+06:12.480 --> 06:15.560
+We need to take a slide on the grass like they do in football
+
+06:17.520 --> 06:19.320
+Because it's time
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+06:19.320 --> 06:22.120
+No more bait on TV. No more bait on social media
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+06:22.760 --> 06:25.200
+Transfection is not immunization and we know it
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+06:26.320 --> 06:28.560
+More importantly, we knew that they knew it
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+06:29.720 --> 06:33.640
+More importantly, we know that they knew it before before it was ever
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+Transfection when it was just intramuscular injection of chemicals into your muscle
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+06:40.840 --> 06:42.200
+Yeah
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+06:42.200 --> 06:46.720
+Injection into your muscle with the idea of augmenting your immune system. No more
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+06:48.040 --> 06:52.240
+We're gonna finally be honest about this that we've been protecting these companies and
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+06:53.360 --> 06:55.960
+funneling massive profits into their coffers
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+06:56.920 --> 06:58.440
+while they
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+then
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+07:00.000 --> 07:08.160
+Sort of worked the other way with the CDC and the FDA. This is done and we are going to wake up. I'm convinced
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+07:09.640 --> 07:14.680
+We're gonna wake up because these people definitely have changed our minds about how we think about stuff and
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+07:16.160 --> 07:21.160
+We are waking up to the fact that these people have done this. We are waking up to their inconsistencies
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+07:22.200 --> 07:28.520
+We are waking up to how they changed our mind about this biology. We are waking up about what they did in the hospitals
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+and what these lies and these exaggerations led to and
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+how they continue to lie and exaggerate and distract and
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+Get everybody on social media and on the skilled TV watchers in the world think they're solving the mystery
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+07:49.160 --> 07:57.720
+And of course they've lied to us about the pandemic potential found in coronavirus is ordered invert our human rights into human privileges or human permissions
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+07:58.440 --> 08:01.200
+And they've done this through a carefully crafted narrative
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+People all over the internet involved in one way or another
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+with the idea that there's a
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+crazy new novel virus
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+everybody was vulnerable to and
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+Therefore we had to shut down the mRNA probably is saving lots of people at least they're really old or sick or core morbid and
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+And now it's pretty much the conclusion of these people over here that it's a gain-of-function virus and that's why it was so bad
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+And anybody that's questioning the protocols the spread or the variants is ignored
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+And so we've been making maps of these people trying to shift these people around Peter McCollum made a huge move a couple days ago
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+Robert Malone we've watched a few videos with him and
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+a person who was arrested at the January 6th
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+Uprising or whatever the hell it's called
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+We streamed with multiple times multiple times
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+control
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+There's no other way to see it because if he was streaming with Crichel and now George Webb is his bad guy
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+09:13.320 --> 09:16.680
+Then this is all one big web of of fiction
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+09:17.560 --> 09:21.880
+All one big story. Are they trying to get people to go away from antibodies?
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+09:22.320 --> 09:27.600
+Are they trying to get big pharma to go away from antibodies and two of these more trustworthy patents?
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+Or maybe these patents that Robert Malone had are all expired now
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+Maybe new antibody patents are ever more difficult to get
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+And so maybe this is the new way forward because there's no way to get
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+That we have to understand this because that's what these people are involved with that's what this distraction is all about
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+It's not money. It's only money and so far as money is power
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+This is for all the marbles ladies and gentlemen
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+So we've talked about Paul Cottrell and Robert Malone connected to one another we've talked about Peter McCollum
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+famous case of the M&R and what he just said the reason I mentioned this is you've had the
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+Your your your change in kind of you around vaccines in general has also
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+coincided with your I don't know if it's a reacquaintance with or an acquaintance with the case of Wakefield
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+So what so for the Brits here just to hear this wrong. Do you think he was perhaps right all along?
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+I think he was right all along and I think he will be vindicated
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+Absolutely, so do you agree with test and have you as your do you move to my view has changed now?
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+I can tell you if I was a young parent today
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+What I would do is I would forgo the vaccines. I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I can't be I'm a pin cushion
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+I took all these vaccines know what I am though is I'm now vaccine risk aware
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+And let me tell you what Andy Wakefield was right and all Andy Wakefield was saying is that maybe it's too
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+Intense, maybe we ought to just kind of spread him out. That's all he was really saying
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+This is a gigantic moves right that changed the playing board a little bit
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+We have to move things around and figure out what's going on here. That's what we're doing
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+We're paying attention and letting people speak for themselves
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+Lots of these people here have spoken for themselves throughout this whole three years Paul Catrell for sure
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+11:31.600 --> 11:33.600
+Kevin McCarron for sure
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+11:33.640 --> 11:39.920
+Richard Fleming for sure Robert Malone for sure Steve Kerr's for sure all you have to do is look up what they said in
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+2020 21 22 and you can see that they all deserve red squares
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+11:45.960 --> 11:51.360
+They're not fighting for our freedom. They're not fighting for our sovereignty. They're not fighting to save
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+millions of people from making a mistake
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+11:55.520 --> 12:00.960
+And so none of these people spoke out against the shot none of them are speaking out against the shot
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+Otherwise, it's really simple. Don't do it
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+12:04.560 --> 12:11.520
+Transfection is an immunization. They're real easy sentences. They don't require an hour-long podcast. You can just say it
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+tweet it
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+But they don't
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+You can just say that well the childhood vaccination schedules out of our control because we let it be
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+Since 1986 you could just say that but they don't
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+And
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+12:28.880 --> 12:34.240
+Because a lot of these people in this picture don't say it you shouldn't trust them because that's where we are
+
+12:35.000 --> 12:40.960
+That's the dividing line. It's not lab leak or natural virus. It's not long COVID or not if you believe in it
+
+12:41.400 --> 12:46.840
+It's not whether there's a virus or not what it is is about whether public health is bullshit or not
+
+12:48.440 --> 12:52.720
+Whether what these people are selling is real or snake oil. That's what this is about
+
+12:53.280 --> 12:59.120
+It's not about some people. It's about the whole plan and the execution of it
+
+13:04.240 --> 13:12.080
+I'll stop stop that's escape escape escape what in my world am I doing? I didn't change that fast enough and so I don't have that up
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+And I needed to be this one
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+13:16.880 --> 13:22.040
+And so you know a breathtaking sign you know that I'm very
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+I very much plugged this book at the beginning of the pandemic called immune
+
+13:29.000 --> 13:32.960
+which is by this YouTube channel kurgesat in a nutshell and
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+13:34.000 --> 13:37.200
+I actually think this book is still pretty good
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+13:37.960 --> 13:42.800
+But I think this channel was co-opted right before the pandemic and I really wasn't aware of it and
+
+13:44.120 --> 13:47.360
+Some of their older videos I used in a lot of my presentations
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+13:47.360 --> 13:51.280
+But it turns out that now they're full-on gain a function in their full-on mythology
+
+13:51.600 --> 13:55.600
+And I've actually got a second video that I'm just going to remember for you to watch
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+Where another youtuber actually breaks down their funding in the last three years that it's extraordinary. It's Bill Gates for almost six million dollars
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+But a lot of other
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+organizations that are all about population control and vaccines and so this is another example of
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+14:14.320 --> 14:20.240
+How YouTube producers YouTube creators YouTube content has been has been co-opted
+
+14:21.280 --> 14:27.040
+In order to make sure that this went off flawlessly. How did they do it with these guys? They gave them a boatload of money
+
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+For them to make a video like this
+
+14:30.040 --> 14:32.040
+Tifik Revolution is taking place
+
+14:33.160 --> 14:39.440
+Biotechnology has been progressing at stunning speed giving us the tools to eventually gain control over biology
+
+14:39.760 --> 14:49.000
+On the one hand solving the deadliest diseases while also creating viruses more dangerous than nuclear bombs able to devastate humanity
+
+14:49.400 --> 14:51.400
+What's going on?
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+14:51.600 --> 14:53.600
+biotech capability
+
+14:54.280 --> 15:00.480
+Biotechnology is increasingly everywhere the cotton in your clothes the vegetables you eat your dog
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+15:01.280 --> 15:05.640
+Humans manipulate living things. We use bacteria to produce insulin
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+Connect prosthetics directly with our brains and make industrial enzymes to produce paper
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+15:11.440 --> 15:18.520
+Gene therapy creates cures to previously untreatable diseases while we're working on food crops resistant to climate change
+
+15:19.240 --> 15:25.560
+Our mastery over biology has been speeding up so much that within weeks of the first COVID-19 case
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+15:25.560 --> 15:29.480
+The unknown coronavirus was broken down in laboratories and analyzed
+
+15:30.320 --> 15:36.960
+Scientists generated a copy of its genetic material to create a vaccine that was ready for testing months after the pandemic began
+
+15:37.720 --> 15:40.080
+Something unthinkable a decade ago
+
+15:41.040 --> 15:45.840
+Where is all this sudden progress coming from? Well, it's complicated
+
+15:45.840 --> 15:50.920
+Ha but in a nutshell really expensive things got cheap and knowledge of how to
+
+15:51.120 --> 15:57.280
+Impressive things spread freely. So that's where it's it's there's the first bamboo zaman, right?
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+We've talked about this before you can't equate
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+The ability to make cheaper and cheaper DNA molecules with the understanding of what those DNA molecules do
+
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+So yeah, it's become cheap to make cell phones
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+And maybe it's even become sequent cheap to sequence DNA
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+Maybe it's become cheap to make a bunch of DNA using recombinant DNA in
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+Plasmids and in bacteria, but that doesn't mean you understand what you're copying. It doesn't mean you understand how it works and
+
+16:29.600 --> 16:36.600
+We don't and that illusion is created every time somebody gives that talk Kevin McCarron and give that talk
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+16:36.600 --> 16:43.400
+Every biologist that's given a TED talk about this crap is given this thing where it used to cost
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+$10,000 to sequence a human now it only costs 150
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+16:48.280 --> 16:50.280
+so what
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+16:50.280 --> 16:55.280
+If you could print all the Chinese books in the world for free, but you can't read Chinese and what difference does it make?
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+Well Chinese books used to be really expensive now, they're really cheap. Well, so what?
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+That's what we're talking about here only. It's a lot harder than Chinese
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+They tell you that it's only got four bases and so it's really easy to figure out, but that's an absolute ridiculous lie
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+And that's what they're being paid to tell you
+
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+The Human Genome Project starting in 1990 was the first major attempt to read human DNA in its entirety
+
+17:26.000 --> 17:29.360
+13 years and three billion dollars later. It was complete
+
+17:29.880 --> 17:34.880
+By then the cost of decoding a human genome here. It is about one hundred million dollars
+
+17:35.440 --> 17:41.000
+Today, it's 100,000 times cheaper costing only about a thousand dollars. There you go
+
+17:41.000 --> 17:42.760
+How is that possible?
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+17:42.760 --> 17:48.080
+Converting DNA into computer data and then studying it used to be a super tedious process
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+17:48.200 --> 17:53.720
+Taking expert humans around three years of manual work and that was Kevin McCarron
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+Like he actually is the guy who did this. He designed the stuff. You can see him in the laboratories where they're doing it
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+and
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+then he sold patents and he started companies and he sold patents and
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+18:05.440 --> 18:13.080
+That's why he has a seven thousand dollar seven thousand square foot house in the suburbs of Boston on the frickin harbor
+
+18:13.800 --> 18:21.120
+And so ask yourself why a guy who's made hundreds of millions of dollars probably in his life with his brother and his dad
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+18:21.120 --> 18:24.200
+With all the companies they've started all the patents they've sold
+
+18:25.600 --> 18:29.480
+How does a person like that spend all of his time on Twitter?
+
+18:30.200 --> 18:33.480
+Coming after a guy with less than 3,000 followers on Twitch
+
+18:34.080 --> 18:39.040
+Where the vast majority of users are ladies without their shirt on playing video games?
+
+18:40.040 --> 18:43.160
+Why does Kevin McCarron and bother to even talk to me?
+
+18:46.080 --> 18:49.560
+Why does Kevin McCarron even bother to tweet about COVID?
+
+18:51.640 --> 18:53.640
+because of this
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+18:54.040 --> 19:00.600
+Because of this illusion and the fact that he is still making his living off of this illusion
+
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+This idea that cheaply reading DNA translates to understanding it
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+19:10.000 --> 19:14.440
+Today it takes about two weeks and is almost completely automated
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+19:14.920 --> 19:19.400
+Biotechnology has gone from something restricted to the best and well-funded laboratories
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+19:19.400 --> 19:25.280
+Start by the world's top experts to something affordable enough for hundreds of thousands of people to casually work on
+
+19:25.760 --> 19:30.480
+What's sped up the process even more is that information in the field is that was so stupid?
+
+19:30.480 --> 19:32.480
+That was a guy in a recliner watching TV
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+19:32.920 --> 19:38.700
+Look at he's he's following the directions on a YouTube video on how to make a gain of function virus. It's hysterical
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+19:39.260 --> 19:40.620
+Occasionally work on
+
+19:40.620 --> 19:45.580
+What sped up the process even more is that information in the field is shared widely and freely?
+
+19:46.180 --> 19:51.820
+Cutting-edge discoveries now take just about a year to be copied in laboratories around the world a few years for any
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+19:53.020 --> 19:55.580
+Why is that hooking that they're doing it in a garage?
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+That's exactly what Malone said was gonna happen that they're gonna make make shit in their garage
+
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+Tell me this is not a joke to you
+
+20:05.860 --> 20:08.500
+They are really thinking that we're gonna fall for this
+
+20:09.900 --> 20:14.660
+And to work out and a bit over a decade for high school students to experiment with them in schools
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+20:15.540 --> 20:21.660
+Imagine that your local computer repair shop could build a pristine iPhone 11 with just the parts lying around and that
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+20:21.660 --> 20:27.300
+Teenagers are asked to build a new iPhone 5 for homework. Not a crappy homemade version the real thing
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+This is what's going on right now in biotechnology
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+20:30.500 --> 20:32.500
+Technology revolution
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+20:33.420 --> 20:35.520
+Unbelievable and unprecedented rate
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+20:35.520 --> 20:42.020
+Unbelievable faster than cheaper to do you could have made this video in the 1980s, and it would still be the same thing
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+These are people dancing around with glow-in-the-dark earlomire flasks come on
+
+20:48.780 --> 20:50.780
+Are we really this bad?
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+Has our education really fallen so far that people are gonna fall for a person with an electric guitar in their hand and a glowing
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+earlomire flask
+
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+Holy ships
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+This speed means we can expect even more wonderful things for humanity
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+21:08.460 --> 21:14.060
+life-saving treatments miracle crops and solutions to problems that we can't even imagine right now
+
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+But unfortunately progress cuts both ways
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+What can be used for good can also be used for bad by accident or on purpose here we go
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+What if you could build a nuclear bomb in your backyard? Oh?
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+For all the good biotechnal do for us in the near future
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+It also could easily kill many millions of people in the worst case hundreds of millions
+
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+Holy shit in the worst case scenario Kevin McCarran said it would be a billion people dead
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+Then any nuclear bomb the world just witnessed how fast the novel coronavirus spread
+
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+We still don't know for sure if it came from nature
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+21:50.180 --> 21:55.860
+Or was the result of an accidental leak from a lab working with coronaviruses that's still subject to scientific
+
+21:55.860 --> 21:57.860
+All there it is in the end
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+Covid raccoon million people died and this was still a relatively mild virus that seven million people died
+
+22:04.420 --> 22:10.200
+No accounting of any of the protocols the shutdowns the ventilating the nothing seven million people died
+
+22:11.180 --> 22:18.020
+Thank you very much for paying us millions of dollars to tell us you tell your story in our pretty colors
+
+22:18.540 --> 22:20.540
+This company completely sold out
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+Of course serious disease in most of those infected
+
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+But that might change in the future. Oh, it might wherever the last pandemic came from the next one might very well be our own fault
+
+22:31.580 --> 22:37.620
+Oh, it might very well be so if you're still on the fence and you think this one's natural the next one might not be
+
+22:38.060 --> 22:40.060
+So that's how the Scooby-Doo works
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+22:40.740 --> 22:44.500
+Even if you don't accept that this one was a lab leak
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+22:45.100 --> 22:49.680
+Because of what happened in the last three years you can't deny that they were lying and
+
+22:50.180 --> 22:53.940
+Covering shit up and so maybe the next one will be much worse
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+In a sense many things going on in biotechnology could lead to this
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+Most of all how easy it is to work with dangerous viruses
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+Thousands of scientists can simply order the genetic data of infectious virus samples online to experiment with them
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+Assembling these into an artificial virus in 2023 costs about as much as a new car including all the lab equipment
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+Why don't they say a clone?
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+An artificial virus is an infectious clone
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+why don't they say that making an infectious clone is easy and
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+Making a crap ton of it is only a matter of scaling things up a bit
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+At the same time other scientists are trying to find viruses that hide in nature
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+Oh, so that's why because they have to tell you that the pandemic potential in nature is being accessed in the laboratory
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+23:45.420 --> 23:46.740
+Do you see?
+
+23:46.740 --> 23:55.820
+That's the mythology that there's pandemic potential out there that can be accessed in here and we can recombine it in here and
+
+23:56.060 --> 24:02.900
+Create pandemic potential that wasn't found out there. That is the narrative like in wild bats or monkeys
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+There are probably plenty of potentially deadly pandemics out there
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+Virus hunters take samples back to the lab to learn whether the newly discovered viruses are likely to spread in humans and catalog the danger
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+When a biologist discovers a new virus that usually publish its genetic data to the public
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+24:20.020 --> 24:27.980
+Journals are eager to share descriptions of potentially dangerous viruses other labs go further and make viruses more dangerous
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+They combine and mutate different viruses to understand which mutations make them more likely to spread between humans or make them
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+Deadlier than their original forms and again these results are shared freely
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+24:41.060 --> 24:46.780
+Synthetic DNA and equipment to rebuild these viruses are sold online to anyone without any or very little
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+That's exactly what Robert Malone said
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+Isn't it the people can buy this shit on eBay now
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+For tracking as the tools of biotechnology get ever cheaper and easy to use and the data on dangerous viruses keeps multiplying
+
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+It's only a matter of time before a well-meaning scientist shares blueprints for the equivalent nuclear bomber viruses a superbug that will cause
+
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+Millions of deaths and someone uses it maybe because they have bad intentions
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+Maybe because they're irresponsible or sloppy we're creating an environment in which it's increasingly easy for anyone to create a weaponized
+
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+Or maybe they'll want to cure their dad's Alzheimer's disease and they'll make a virus that infects monkeys and makes them super smart
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+25:28.180 --> 25:33.740
+And then that virus will zoonautically jump back from the monkeys into the humans and wipe the whole planet out
+
+25:33.740 --> 25:39.060
+And we'll be left with a small group of humans that has to fight for the planet of the apes
+
+25:40.060 --> 25:45.060
+Because that's the actual plot of the new planet of the apes from 2008 9 and 11
+
+25:46.060 --> 25:48.060
+Maybe
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+25:48.420 --> 25:50.420
+Iris in their backyard
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+25:50.420 --> 25:58.220
+This is scary. The world would be plunged into an unending crisis as new pandemics pop up year after year or all at once
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+Killing large parts of the world's population doing unimaginable damage to civilization as a whole. Wow
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+Possibly undoing centuries of progress. Here we go. What can we do turns out a lot? Oh, yeah
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+It's not the first time we've faced a challenge like this and we are not helpless think of nuclear technology
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+26:16.980 --> 26:21.300
+Something extremely powerful and dangerous with huge upsides and downsides
+
+26:21.860 --> 26:27.860
+Nuclear energy was born from weapon programs. So its creators were always aware of the potential for their knowledge to be abused
+
+26:28.500 --> 26:34.660
+From the very beginning it was clear that knowledge in this field and access to the technology needed to be handled with utmost care
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+So a lot of effort has gone into making sure no radioactive material disappears from sight
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+Or the countries don't try to hide weapons development behind energy programs
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+26:44.180 --> 26:51.060
+The result hasn't been perfect, but considering the 411 nuclear power stations running today. We've been very successful
+
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+Likewise, no researcher would think to share data on how to turn common laboratory equipment. Did they forget about what happened in Japan?
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+I'm sorry, but isn't nuclear power kind of like an all-or-nothing thing like if you have a meltdown like
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+I'm just trying to understand is was
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+Were these meltdowns bad or not? I think they are I think what happened in Fukushima is kind of bad
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+I don't know maybe I'm wrong but into bomb-making machines on the internet
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+There's no reason we couldn't handle the rainy dangerous aspects of biotechnology in a similar way
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+Experts have come up with three sort of bullet points
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+First we need to delay the next deadly pandemic by getting a grip on how we treat dangerous viruses
+
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+Vergenetic data should be treated as an info hazard
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+Information that poses a danger to society if it's shared without care now
+
+27:41.380 --> 27:47.700
+Keep in mind that we are posting the entire genome of all the variants that are currently in circulation. So that all that data is available
+
+27:50.580 --> 27:53.860
+Nepovirus all that stuff's online. So what is he talking about here?
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+27:56.100 --> 27:59.780
+In other words, not just anyone should be able to order dangerous DNA online
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+And if you do you should be tracked so it becomes much harder for the wrong people to access the really spicy stuff
+
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+The next step is detecting the danger by becoming aware of which viruses are present to runners
+
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+This could be as easy as having labs in populations
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+28:17.540 --> 28:23.140
+Don't forget that the who said this that we have to have sewer and genomic surveillance all the time
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+28:23.780 --> 28:25.780
+That's what they want
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+28:26.020 --> 28:27.620
+It's part of this thing
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+Because then they can say the sewer levels
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+Of x virus are going up. So we have to change the way that we behave
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+When the sewer levels go down
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+28:36.820 --> 28:41.940
+Then we'll change back. That's what their plan is. Don't get it. Don't don't misunderstand. That's that's coming
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+28:42.180 --> 28:46.420
+Ntas maintain virus detectors that monitor what's going on in the micro world
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+If we suddenly see certain microorganisms show up a lot in a short time
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+We can react quickly and start countermeasures. There it is. There it is the final step destroy
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+We basically need to build a machine that's ready to destroy any pandemic threat before it has a chance to take over
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+A machine to destroy any pandemic threat before it has a chance to take over. What do you think that is MRNA?
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+29:10.500 --> 29:13.300
+We can do this with new tools that are being developed right now
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+29:13.620 --> 29:18.340
+Like nano filters that pull dangers out of the air we breathe or specialized new v-lamps
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+29:18.500 --> 29:22.420
+That just kill any virus before it has a chance to jump from person to person
+
+29:22.740 --> 29:27.220
+And of course we need to get better at getting new vaccines faster than ever before in history
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+29:27.860 --> 29:33.300
+If we do these three things the chances are really good that we can avoid a catastrophic pandemic in the future
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+Biotechnology like any exciting and powerful technology is neither inherently good or bad
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+29:41.140 --> 29:44.020
+It has the potential to be both in breathtaking ways
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+We have the chance to have a future where we get to truly control biology
+
+29:49.620 --> 29:54.660
+Biology the biology of the plants and animals around us and the biology of the micro world
+
+29:54.820 --> 29:59.860
+And that is the arrogance that will get all of us in trouble. That's the arrogance that brought us here
+
+29:59.940 --> 30:02.420
+It's the arrogance that's bringing us transhumanism
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+It is the arrogance that is losing the sacred
+
+30:07.620 --> 30:12.260
+It's all part of the same big big big giant show
+
+30:13.780 --> 30:20.420
+Don't give up the sacred don't let go of the complexity of biology. Don't let go of what's unexplainable
+
+30:20.740 --> 30:24.340
+Don't let them take it away from you and your kids
+
+30:25.460 --> 30:27.460
+They can lie about all they want
+
+30:27.700 --> 30:33.460
+It doesn't change the fact that they don't know they won't know they can't know and they know that they won't know
+
+30:34.260 --> 30:36.260
+But they want the power anyway
+
+30:36.980 --> 30:41.620
+They want to replace the sacred with worship of themselves
+
+30:43.780 --> 30:49.140
+So let's use it to create a future where we triumph over pandemics and diseases for good
+
+30:50.740 --> 30:53.060
+This video was supported by open philanthropy
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+30:53.460 --> 30:59.140
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+A non-profit organization that helps people find careers that can tackle some of humanities greatest problems in the most efficient way
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+We're going to pause that there. We're going to escape out of here
+
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+I need to go to the airport ladies and gentlemen because I have a friend in town
+
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+And so I just want to end with the idea
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+What the hell is this as the wrong slide, right?
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+Escape that
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+I just want to end with the idea that they probably
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+31:26.900 --> 31:29.300
+Lied to us about this graph here
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+They lied to us about the light blue by not telling us about it and they lied about the dark blue by not telling us why it went up
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+By threefold during the pandemic
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+31:38.020 --> 31:41.380
+They lied about a virus they paid a lot of money to go along with the lie
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+And there was likely a molecular seeding of this lie
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+31:46.500 --> 31:51.380
+A seeding of a clone in many places in the world so that the molecular biology would line up
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+31:52.020 --> 31:55.860
+And that they could scare people into following their dumb protocols for money
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+31:56.580 --> 32:01.140
+And those dumb protocols involved not treating people the way you'd have normally treated them
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+And being afraid of people when you normally would not have been afraid of them
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+Not recessed dating people when you did not need to to leave them
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+And
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+They did that with the intense express
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+Intent of using that event and this event as a way of justifying an inversion of everything that we know is freedom
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+And the reason why they're doing it is because they've told each other in secret meetings for years
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+That this is necessary for population
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+And to feed the AI
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+Because the way that we're going to become masters of our biology like Kyrgyzstan that stupid video just told us
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+Was by collecting all the medical data and all the genetic data and all the data from everybody
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+It's alive
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+32:49.540 --> 32:53.940
+And the more data we have the more likely it is the AI will be able to do all those things
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+Control the biology of all the plants and the animals and the fish and the microbes
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+And it's all a great big mythology
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+It's a great big mythology to make you sink down into your chair
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+And flip the channel of the television back to the next
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+binge target
+
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+It's time to wake up ladies and gentlemen
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+It's no longer time to to sleep or to wait or to act tomorrow
+
+33:22.900 --> 33:24.900
+Now's the time to share this information
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+33:25.460 --> 33:30.020
+Now's the time to speak up with your relatives and friends. We have a few more months
+
+33:30.740 --> 33:32.740
+one more month until thanksgiving
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+So the thanksgiving table is coming really soon
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+Learn this biology ladies and gentlemen
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+Learn it so you can spread it
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+This biology is starting to become easier to learn
+
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+Because it's simpler if it's all lies
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+Gigomebiological.com or gigome.bio
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+I will see you tomorrow. I'm sorry the show is so short tonight. I'm hopeful
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+Yeah, I'm gonna have lots of time tomorrow. Maybe I'll even have my friend
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+Who's here join me for the show
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+Thanks very much for joining me. Sorry. I was so short again, but we're keeping the streak alive
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+The daily let's do it
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+from his latest live stream from last night if you're not following he's a
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+he's scheduled for 16 minutes next he's going on French British Italian Japanese television
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+people everywhere are starting to listen to him it's embarrassing he had the exact
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+one of those apples better be for me
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+good evening ladies and gentlemen this is Gigo biological it's a high resistance
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+low-noise information free brought to you by biologists you've been coming to you live with
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+the last 20 days in a row trying to break this limited spectrum of debate that we are trapped
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+within and I hope we're making some progress with that breaking free
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+good evening ladies and gentlemen welcome to the show this is Gigo home biological a high
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+resistance low-noise information brief brought to you by a biologist it's the 25th of September
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+2023 my name is Jonathan Cooey we have been battling against the bait on TV and social media it's not
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+getting any easier if someone can put a link to now I'm gonna do it here's a tonic live in this
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+link here I'm just gonna put this here and I'm gonna put home and I'm gonna take this I'm gonna
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+take that and I'm gonna put that over here besides Jessica Hockett who I highly recommend I'm also
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+talking about his atomic live that link is right there he's also got three YouTube channels by that
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+name his atomic live one two and three the first one might be not called one or might just be his
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+atomic live please don't take the bait on Stevie and social media intramuscular injection of any
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+combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb and if you
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+want to get specific about it you can say the transfection is an immunization I'm gonna zip
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+through this beginning because I think is really clear where we are at and where I think we are
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+at and so I don't think it's really necessary for us to go too much into detail other than to say
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+that some people misled us into thinking different things about our biology and that misleading of
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+us about the biology at the beginning of the pandemic really in early 2020 right through the end of
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+2020 his one allowed hundreds of thousands of people around the world to be killed basically by them
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+be mistreated under the pretense that this was a novel virus that everyone was vulnerable to and
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+that we didn't really know what would work and that limited spectrum of debate around the medical
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+science of covid was very carefully curated through censorship and through amplification
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+for a whole series of months and in fact even the orchestrated publicized censorship
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+of certain dissident voices was part of this this crucial sort of really honing in on this
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+both sides of this debate and and this is really something that I've been trying to wake everybody
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+up to because again I really feel like the world has been tricked into thinking that this was a
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+mystery to be solved and that they have witnessed in real time the solving of this mystery over
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+these last three years and I believe that to be holy a lie I believe they've lied to us about the
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+pandemic potential that's accessible in laboratories in order to invert our human
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+and sovereign rights over our our own bodies and our responsibilities for our children to be
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+absorbed by the state and for us to need to seek permission for everything and that's what this
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+08:03.600 --> 08:08.880
+debate is all about um match difference with Craig Particope I don't know why that's there
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+08:09.040 --> 08:14.800
+that's why it needs fixing so they told us this crazy thing about you know a debate no truth
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+08:14.800 --> 08:18.080
+of the matter was I was always thought about National Institute of Health but but the fact
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+08:18.080 --> 08:24.000
+of the matter is I was the we are at a place where somebody who has worked with and for the FDA for
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+maybe two decades is the patent holder and at least one vaccine and is a staunch supporter of the
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+08:33.520 --> 08:41.520
+you know the the huge liability free sort of arrangement that these companies have when
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+08:41.520 --> 08:45.200
+they produce vaccines he doesn't want to talk about that he doesn't want to talk about how
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+08:45.200 --> 08:53.520
+they are exempt from real placebo trials but just based on other already safe vaccines a lot of times
+
+08:54.720 --> 09:00.320
+and this disingenuous discussion goes all the way to making fun of people whose children have
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+09:00.320 --> 09:06.880
+been permanently damaged by a vaccination as people that are crazy and this happened maybe
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+09:06.880 --> 09:14.240
+two months ago so three months into this pandemic were exactly where they wanted us to be which is
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+09:14.240 --> 09:20.960
+in this place where we are at odds with our friends and our neighbors about the value of vaccination
+
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+and even trying to walk that fine line where you say well maybe the other vaccines are okay
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+but these new ones are garbage and they were never tested and they should have never been
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+tested in their transfection you can't even you can't even broach that subject with many our
+
+09:39.680 --> 09:45.760
+family and friends and many of our neighbors simply because the TV has absolutely checkmate
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+09:45.760 --> 09:53.040
+brainwashed them into believing that that isn't an unfathomable lie you could never think that
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+09:53.040 --> 09:58.560
+that could be true and one of the reasons is because of the amazing spectacular commitment
+
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+to this lie that people like Paul Offit Joe and shamelessly will go into a camera
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+and they will say things they know in their heart are in truth they know what they have to know
+
+10:11.120 --> 10:16.960
+they're lying because they're not dumb people they're not making mistakes
+
+10:17.120 --> 10:25.280
+and so think about the spectacular nature of this man's behavior when we know that it can't be as
+
+10:25.280 --> 10:32.640
+black and white as he's making it out to be let's see if i can make this bigger
+
+10:35.200 --> 10:41.680
+oh how i got this like that can i do that you allow me to make you bigger
+
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+but you like this
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+10:48.000 --> 10:51.120
+the truth of the matter was i was always thought about the nationalist suits of health but but
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+the fact of the matter is i was the i was a patent holder on something it became a vaccine now now
+
+10:56.960 --> 11:01.120
+i'm the intellectual property of my hospital therefore the hospital really owns the patent but it does
+
+11:01.120 --> 11:06.160
+you get tired of explaining it it never convinces anybody anyway because do you work with a pharmaceutical
+
+11:06.160 --> 11:13.440
+company there for your evil wait wait wait wait look look at this it's an anti-vax protestor
+
+11:16.160 --> 11:21.760
+yeah wow you know what's amazing so see this is this is amazing
+
+11:23.200 --> 11:27.760
+really you can't see him in the camera yes so guys guys z-pack wait that's really true
+
+11:27.760 --> 11:34.880
+yeah there are actually not a joke does not a joke there are actually anti-vax activists
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+11:35.440 --> 11:38.320
+outside the window right now
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+11:41.120 --> 11:47.280
+and now they're gone because tom turned him off this is what we want to talk about too you hear
+
+11:47.280 --> 11:51.280
+him yeah what is he saying is that i can't i don't know but tom's gonna make sure that the
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+11:51.360 --> 11:53.680
+door is locked and also that logan's gun is caught
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+11:56.480 --> 11:58.720
+you hear him yes yes silly dog
+
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+to sell drugs and pull off it that's made billions of drugs millions from his vaccine i think he had
+
+12:11.600 --> 12:18.000
+the heavy vaccine rotavirus rotavirus right if we've got to be really careful here because we can
+
+12:18.000 --> 12:24.240
+fall into the trap and i'm not saying that he's a trap but i'm saying that social media may have
+
+12:24.960 --> 12:30.640
+made him jump into this trap and then used him unwittingly to set everybody else that watches this
+
+12:30.640 --> 12:38.240
+and shares this video to fall into the same trap where we say that paul often made millions off of
+
+12:38.240 --> 12:45.760
+his vaccine when in reality he didn't make that much he probably made 500 000 because the majority
+
+12:45.760 --> 12:50.240
+of the money went to the university under which he was working at the time that the patent was
+
+12:50.240 --> 12:55.760
+granted to him but nevertheless it also really helped cement it helped cement his place in the
+
+12:55.760 --> 13:03.040
+faculty it helped you know grease the wheels for his his rising star as the director of his institute
+
+13:03.040 --> 13:10.480
+and whatever and whatever and whatever because intellectual property is very very important and
+
+13:10.480 --> 13:16.400
+it becomes increasingly important for young faculty members as a way of adding to their resume
+
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+in this sea of candidates a few meaningful patents is ridiculously valuable even if they just mean
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+that you have the potential to generate more patents should they get you under their roof and
+
+13:30.000 --> 13:36.960
+yes he had a rotavirus vaccine patent but we've got to be very careful when we start throwing around
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+numbers like millions and millions of dollars because it may very well be that he didn't make
+
+13:40.880 --> 13:48.800
+millions of dollars himself it may be that millions of dollars were given to the university and some
+
+13:49.440 --> 13:55.440
+substantial portion of those were were allowed to be used for his salary and for his lab fees and
+
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+for his his his lab employees his lab budget and so you could see that as the same thing but
+
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+technically it's not and it becomes deniable by paul office we've got to be very careful but
+
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+still i understand why he's upset i understand what he's trying to do here but just you need to
+
+14:14.000 --> 14:21.920
+see it for what it is and why this social media is constantly a trap believe what one of the
+
+14:21.920 --> 14:28.080
+vaccines that killed my daughter they're alive on facebook she died within 24 hours of vaccines
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+14:28.160 --> 14:35.600
+that was a week and a half before she died she was very beautiful and we're here to honor zara
+
+14:35.600 --> 14:43.760
+and to just to make these people realize that we're not scared of them and you know together
+
+14:44.640 --> 14:50.320
+we can overcome the propaganda and brainwashing because vaccines are an avoidable unsafe i'm not
+
+14:50.320 --> 14:54.240
+saying that you shouldn't take any vaccines but they're they're not interested in doing any
+
+14:54.240 --> 15:00.880
+science to make them safer or no science happens when zara died all they try to do is
+
+15:00.880 --> 15:06.080
+deny disavow and sweep under the carpet because there's no money in dead babies and guess what
+
+15:07.040 --> 15:13.680
+she didn't die of six she was too old for six it was sudden unknown death within 24 hours of
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+14 vaccinations so let's go show pull off it and zenov hey hey guys that's my daughter oh he's
+
+15:26.160 --> 15:34.800
+laughing laughing that's my daughter look look at this it's an anti-vax protester
+
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+yeah wow you know what's amazing what's amazing is that i don't think paul offered
+
+15:42.400 --> 15:48.800
+thinks it's as funny as z-dog does and actually that shows you the infantile nature of z-dog's role
+
+15:48.800 --> 15:56.320
+in this whole thing it shows you his lack of professionalism it shows you his lack of depth of
+
+15:56.320 --> 16:03.680
+understanding and it also shows a kind of denial of the reality you could have also seen this as a
+
+16:03.680 --> 16:08.560
+moment of professional possibility where he could have said why i wonder if we could bring this
+
+16:08.560 --> 16:15.280
+person in here and talk to him and create a moment but that's not what these people are all at all
+
+16:15.280 --> 16:21.840
+about like an anti-vaxxer protester is very different than somebody who's just saying hey
+
+16:23.120 --> 16:32.320
+hey we got to be honest about this and i find this very important to acknowledge that this
+
+16:32.320 --> 16:39.600
+happened i know i used this video once before but it is a very it's a very dark reality where
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+16:39.600 --> 16:51.280
+we are right now um i had a friend come in last night to Pittsburgh and this friend is staying in
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+16:51.440 --> 17:02.320
+uh is staying in in the city and he's got some stuff to do for his work but i'll probably see
+
+17:02.320 --> 17:05.680
+him again tomorrow night but he was here last night and i picked him up at the airport brought him
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+17:05.680 --> 17:14.560
+back to the house and fierla and i and him hang out um after the kids went to bed and he is not aware
+
+17:14.960 --> 17:24.320
+like to the point of didn't really still didn't really know who uh Robert F. Kennedy jr. was in
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+17:24.320 --> 17:29.040
+children's health defense before last night i mean he knew again i tell me the name of that
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+17:29.040 --> 17:35.520
+organization you work for again and so just because of the nature of his job and you know he's got
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+17:35.520 --> 17:39.600
+two teenage daughters one that just went off to college one that's in high school you know it's
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+his wife has a career etc so i get it he's very busy and doesn't know but
+
+17:46.320 --> 17:52.480
+there's a pretty rude awakening to find out that his mild-mannered you know biologist friend
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+17:53.360 --> 17:58.640
+who at best was a loud-mouthed teacher has uh making a living on the internet with
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+with sound effects and uh music and and and graphics
+
+18:05.200 --> 18:13.600
+um but that's where we are that that these these people like z-dogs viewers
+
+18:14.960 --> 18:21.120
+are are jaded and and and biased to the point where they may not be
+
+18:21.120 --> 18:26.080
+savable until something very very drastic happens with the rest of the people who are
+
+18:27.280 --> 18:31.280
+and these people are going to be offered up as evidence all the time because
+
+18:32.240 --> 18:36.240
+that that's what they want they want this kind of evidence to be what you see
+
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+isn't it we'd like to talk can we come in
+
+18:43.360 --> 18:45.360
+can we come in we brought a book
+
+18:47.600 --> 18:52.320
+these people they're not about any type of safety what they want to do is make
+
+18:52.320 --> 18:56.320
+and so now they're going to bang on the window and then you heard the rest so i mean i'm not i'm
+
+18:56.320 --> 19:01.040
+not trying to overdo the the whole thing about this but i just want you to understand that
+
+19:01.120 --> 19:06.800
+this this drama that's been created by these people over here that includes me
+
+19:08.000 --> 19:14.400
+trying to figure out if this was a lab leak or not in 2020 and and and doing streams with people
+
+19:14.400 --> 19:22.560
+and given my whatever presence and time to groups of people who are trying to push the
+
+19:23.360 --> 19:28.320
+worst-case scenario and so essentially i would go on stream with multiple people
+
+19:28.800 --> 19:33.840
+and i would be the only one who is arguing for natural immunity or previous immunity
+
+19:35.200 --> 19:40.960
+and the not no need for transfection and these four other people would say well i don't agree
+
+19:41.600 --> 19:46.320
+i think a billion people are going to die and it's worst-case scenario red dragon event with a
+
+19:46.320 --> 19:47.360
+two-year horizon
+
+19:50.400 --> 19:56.720
+and so i was there i was doing the performance as well because they got all of our hair on fire
+
+19:57.600 --> 20:02.160
+and the question is at one point in time do we were we listening to one another and thinking
+
+20:02.160 --> 20:10.320
+together and then slowly drifting out of this red triangle where we question the protocols first
+
+20:10.880 --> 20:15.520
+you question the evidence of spread and we question the meaning of these variants
+
+20:16.720 --> 20:19.520
+i'm not a very good weatherman i can't point to this stuff on the screen
+
+20:19.680 --> 20:26.480
+but we're seriously in a stage now where this is how we break free because
+
+20:27.360 --> 20:32.480
+otherwise we have to listen to the whole firehose all the time and we have to try and process
+
+20:32.480 --> 20:38.640
+the whole firehose all the time but if we can start to understand what they're trying to do
+
+20:38.640 --> 20:44.960
+with this firehose which is keep our ads always focused on the scooby-doo mystery of lab leak
+
+20:45.600 --> 20:51.840
+or gain a function lab leak or a natural nasty virus and what's going to come next
+
+20:53.040 --> 20:58.480
+then we can start to make some choices that are meaningful instead of continuing to run
+
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+in the same direction that we've been running in for the last three years
+
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+and so i think it's important to look at the people who are on this thing i think it's important
+
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+to look at what peter makala and other people say on a regular basis and then
+
+21:11.200 --> 21:17.120
+keep updating the image that we have here so that we understand who to trust
+
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+who's related to who who's done streams with with which people and then complained about it later
+
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+i haven't done any streams with anybody that got arrested for january 6th
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+i haven't done any streams with with uh i don't know
+
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+i guess i did some streams with paul katrel so you could say that i'm connected to him
+
+21:44.640 --> 21:49.040
+i did some streams with kevin makaren i guess you could say i'm connected with him
+
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+or was that the whole idea all along
+
+21:53.680 --> 22:00.000
+i never had kevin makaren linked on my website but kevin had me on his website for almost three
+
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+years i had to beg and plead and complain for him to take it off
+
+22:03.920 --> 22:09.840
+and so you can see some of these people like george web and how he associated himself with
+
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+marcoolak and other people and harassed other people took other people's research and twisted it
+
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+around as another guy whose job was just meant to confuse and to associate you know
+
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+with people who who have more integrity in order to bring their own it that person's integrity into
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+question and i i think we're we're witnessing a lot of this stuff it's really interesting that
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+22:38.240 --> 22:44.000
+robert malone and and and harret van den basch actually worked together and we're in a movie
+
+22:44.000 --> 22:49.600
+together in spain and and pretended like they weren't sure if they knew each other or not
+
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+but he dropped harret's name in a in a in a live stream with paul katrel so they damn well do
+
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+know each other it's extraordinary really it's very extraordinary what's going on and where we
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+are at this time frame because a lot of people if they've been paying attention over the last three
+
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+years would start to see that the dissonant communities a very small group of people that
+
+23:14.880 --> 23:20.400
+travel around the world and hot tub together it's a very small group of people that complain
+
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+of each other and sue one another but nothing ever seems to happen in any of these lawsuits
+
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+george can't even seem to serve robert malone even though robert malone has a lawyer which means
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+it's pretty hard not to serve it
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+and robert malone's been suing the bragons for how long now how long has he been selling the
+
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+book how long has he been promoting george web as his own private cyberstalker i don't know
+
+24:02.000 --> 24:05.760
+one of the things that i think they're doing a lot of which really annoys the hell out of me
+
+24:06.320 --> 24:13.760
+is brainwashing people into thinking that somehow we are so close to being able to interface with
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+our brain in a meaningful way that without only can we augment it but we can upload and
+
+24:20.320 --> 24:27.600
+download information into memory and brain and skill and somehow augment the IQ or thought
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+powers of the brain by actually physically interfacing with wires through the skull
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+wireless i don't care how and this is a a presentation from the world economic form
+
+24:42.560 --> 24:47.760
+dabo's meeting where a woman is going to talk to us about this a woman who she calls herself
+
+24:47.760 --> 24:55.280
+a futurist do you remember that word well this is an extraordinary talk which will give you
+
+24:55.280 --> 25:02.080
+insight into the level of excuse my language but bullshittery that has been used on the rich
+
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+venture capital you know people that are bottling their own
+
+25:09.280 --> 25:16.400
+farts and smelling them later kind of people these these people have been brainwashed the people
+
+25:16.400 --> 25:22.160
+inside of our government bureaucracies have been brainwashed into believing that gain of function
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+viruses are real and that brain implants are really just a matter of choice away it's if we
+
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+we didn't have so many ethical qualms about cutting holes in people's heads we would already
+
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+have this done a long time ago here we go hello everybody i'm nicholas tompson i'm a
+
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+cov Atlantic oh yeah i just remember you know this what this is really all about right is getting
+
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+rid of the idea that there's anything sacred about you or your baby i mean you can start
+
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+like a bonsai tree you know you can start training babies right away you can shape their head
+
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+anyway you want to stretch their legs out whatever you want
+
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+and these people really want you to believe there's no such thing as God's creation there's no such
+
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+thing as a sacred you know lying you don't cross there's no kind of complexity here where
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+26:16.320 --> 26:22.320
+you know we have to respect this some kind of complexity that we can't distill down anymore
+
+26:22.320 --> 26:27.600
+and then therefore we shouldn't mess with that part of it no kind of talk like that at all instead
+
+26:28.240 --> 26:35.120
+just like it i'm gonna keep saying it just like Robert Malone said that when he was working in his
+
+26:35.120 --> 26:39.920
+postdoc he decided to work on retroviruses because he was sure there would be a geneticist at a
+
+26:39.920 --> 26:47.200
+hospital at every hospital in 10 years curing childhood genetic diseases with retroviruses
+
+26:48.320 --> 26:50.880
+well fast forward 40 years later and
+
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+then there are no retroviruses that are being used to cure childhood diseases
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+and this is the same kind of talk with a little bit more pizzazz and a little bit of sharp language
+
+27:04.800 --> 27:10.480
+and and a sharp suit but she's going to try and tell you the same sharp stories about how
+
+27:10.480 --> 27:17.520
+just around the next bend just over the next hill holy man you know stay awake we're almost there
+
+27:17.600 --> 27:23.840
+buddy we're gonna we're gonna break through you're not gonna believe the kind of stuff she's
+
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+promising and i will be your moderator today well you're going to have an incredible session
+
+27:29.760 --> 27:36.160
+star the show is Anita Farahani she's a futurist and legal ethicist at Duke and she's so smart
+
+27:36.160 --> 27:40.960
+and so interesting you're gonna learn a ton this is how it's gonna work legal ethicist at Duke
+
+27:40.960 --> 27:46.160
+she's gonna come on stage and talk and then we're gonna do a little q&a questions from the audience
+
+27:46.160 --> 27:52.720
+and that'll be a wrap and you'll leave enlightened and excited so first off a video it's gonna make
+
+27:52.720 --> 27:58.480
+you see the future and understand a wonderful future where we can use brainwaves to fight crime
+
+27:58.480 --> 28:05.920
+be more productive and find love let's roll you're in the zone even you can't believe how productive
+
+28:05.920 --> 28:12.080
+you've been your memo is finished your inbox is under control and you're feeling sharper than
+
+28:12.160 --> 28:17.360
+you have in a decade sensing your joy your playlist shifts to your favorite song
+
+28:17.920 --> 28:23.920
+sending chills up your spine as the music begins to play you glance at the program running in the
+
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+background on your computer screen can i just interrupt here and go back just a second to show
+
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+you to make you listen to what they said what the lady said at the very beginning and then i'm
+
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+going to pause it again you can't believe how productive you've been your memo is finished
+
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+zone be more productive and find love here we go let's roll listen carefully please you're in the
+
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+zone even you can't believe how productive you're in the zone now i think it would be okay
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+with my friend Rodney for me to say that they had been they have been using Rodney
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+as an example at all of these kinds of meetings now i don't think he's ever been to the w
+
+29:08.320 --> 29:13.840
+world economic forum but he's been to a a few food conferences and a lot of TED conferences
+
+29:13.840 --> 29:24.240
+and a lot of other conferences where he opens with his own version of of kind of a fascination
+
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+with the sacred biology where you get to a stage where you don't really understand how
+
+29:31.680 --> 29:37.840
+the the body and the brain are working together to accomplish perfection but after a few
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+or many extremely painful attempts at a ridiculously impossible stunt how these
+
+29:46.480 --> 29:52.400
+friends of his are able to go down these rails and land it and all this other stuff and before
+
+29:52.400 --> 29:56.640
+they do that they're falling but their body's falling somehow in a way that doesn't break stuff
+
+29:56.640 --> 30:06.320
+much and his whole explanation is the idea of getting into uh what she says you're in the zone
+
+30:07.680 --> 30:16.160
+in a flow state where your brain and your body are anticipating the coming reality in such a
+
+30:16.800 --> 30:24.000
+precise manner that as you the board flips underneath your feet your feet are dragging up
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+30:24.000 --> 30:29.440
+to the tip of the board in just the right way so that it starts to rotate and then clear the
+
+30:29.440 --> 30:36.080
+rail and then come back in a flat position right before your feet come down and your brain and
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+30:36.080 --> 30:43.520
+your feet and the the feeling of the board on your feet as it comes down and the predictability of
+
+30:43.520 --> 30:49.200
+what it's going to feel like when the back wheels hit before the front and knowing exactly how far
+
+30:49.200 --> 30:54.160
+your feet have to be in over or in front of that back wheel in order to make sure that you go that
+
+30:54.160 --> 31:03.040
+way and not over the top of it all of these things become automatic and it's it's this kind of high
+
+31:03.040 --> 31:10.080
+level of total body skill hand-eye coordination the whole nine is hand body coordination i i body
+
+31:10.080 --> 31:18.160
+coordination that anybody that skateboards does and if it's not clear i don't skateboard that skate
+
+31:18.160 --> 31:27.360
+board back there represents Rodney and his encouragement of me but his message coming through me
+
+31:28.080 --> 31:37.600
+is that this is a sacred thing this idea of practicing something so
+
+31:41.840 --> 31:47.120
+that i don't know i'd like to use the word religiously but practicing with something with so much heart
+
+31:47.120 --> 31:59.040
+and so much focus and so much belief that that is possible not only possible but repeatable
+
+32:00.880 --> 32:10.160
+i don't know if any there's a there's a
+
+32:10.160 --> 32:21.680
+I'm not even really sure what this thing is called but when I was living in Norway and we had a
+
+32:21.680 --> 32:30.960
+secret Santa I got this as a secret Santa gift in the end um from a Japanese colleague and I
+
+32:30.960 --> 32:36.960
+believe it's a Japanese toy but it could be from another Asian country and I apologize for not
+
+32:37.040 --> 32:40.160
+knowing that I hope it doesn't make me racist but if you look on
+
+32:41.360 --> 32:46.880
+if you katama I think is what they're called if you look is that right did somebody say it um
+
+32:48.880 --> 32:55.040
+the the this thing if you go on the internet and find people who are very skilled with it
+
+32:55.920 --> 33:01.120
+you won't believe the kinds of tricks that they can do and repeat it and repeat them over and over
+
+33:01.120 --> 33:09.840
+again it's a level of of balance that requires high functioning cerebellar work all body movement
+
+33:09.840 --> 33:16.000
+in real time with an object that's moving with gravity and it's juggling in a sense but it's
+
+33:16.720 --> 33:23.200
+it's very fine hand movement extremely crazy stuff that people learn to do with a piece of wood with
+
+33:23.200 --> 33:31.280
+a ball on a stick on a string not much different than a yo-yo or a piano
+
+33:33.920 --> 33:41.040
+you know a guitar drum set maybe these are all things that at some moment become a
+
+33:42.160 --> 33:48.480
+a synergy between your brain and your muscles and your conscious understanding of what's coming
+
+33:49.360 --> 33:55.200
+and that's what makes it so nice to be a musician in a band you understand what's coming together
+
+33:55.200 --> 34:02.480
+with other people and you can anticipate it and move through it together it's a very very beautiful
+
+34:02.480 --> 34:08.000
+thing that I've only been able to experience a few times in my life I'm not lucky enough to
+
+34:08.000 --> 34:13.440
+ever been in a band or part of a team for a real long time high school you know but
+
+34:14.240 --> 34:20.400
+these are extraordinary things and they brought Rodney in to talk about this because their goal
+
+34:20.400 --> 34:28.560
+was to take the sacred out of it their goal was to make it seem as though we're about to take the
+
+34:28.560 --> 34:35.840
+sacred out of the flow state we're about to take the sacred out of the sacrifice that Rodney Mullen
+
+34:36.560 --> 34:43.680
+the sacrifice that Rodney Mullen made in order to become the greatest flatland skater of all time
+
+34:45.120 --> 34:51.200
+have you heard the story about him jacking his leg into a wheel well so that he could break away
+
+34:51.200 --> 34:58.480
+the cartilage and stuff that built up in his in his hip and how he was grinding that out
+
+34:58.480 --> 35:04.560
+with a screwdriver for a year or so so that he could gain mobility from his hip bones back
+
+35:05.520 --> 35:07.440
+have you seen the way the guy walks now
+
+35:10.880 --> 35:17.520
+there's a reason why he became so good it's because he went through the same pain and suffering
+
+35:17.520 --> 35:23.520
+that everybody else has to go through if they want to become a master of something there's nobody
+
+35:23.520 --> 35:29.280
+that sits down in the piano and doesn't have to practice you might understand it you might have a
+
+35:29.360 --> 35:36.480
+very you might have a very technical grasp just lucky enough for you your brain is just the right
+
+35:36.480 --> 35:43.760
+amount of visual learning and sound and whatever that you learn faster but a piano is not something
+
+35:43.760 --> 35:52.480
+that's built into anybody music might be but they want you to believe that all of this
+
+35:52.640 --> 36:01.360
+what can be gained by hard work and sacrifice dedication to something can instead be replaced
+
+36:01.360 --> 36:09.680
+with installations and reprogramming and and and monitoring so that we can understand it enough
+
+36:09.680 --> 36:14.800
+with enough data we'll be able to crack the code of what goes on in a brain
+
+36:15.600 --> 36:24.640
+and I'm just I'm sad that there's no way for me to share with you all that I've seen as a
+
+36:24.640 --> 36:30.560
+neurobiologist all that I've looked at under these microscopes there's no way in hell
+
+36:31.760 --> 36:35.040
+we're ever going to usefully augment the function of the human brain
+
+36:37.360 --> 36:43.120
+it's too complicated it's too much of an organ it's not a
+
+36:45.120 --> 36:50.080
+it's not accessible in that way and you're going to hear it here and I need you to understand that's
+
+36:50.080 --> 36:59.680
+why this is so important to me because neurobiology does it medicine does it they all doing it they're
+
+36:59.680 --> 37:04.560
+all trying to get rid of the sacred part of biology that part which is so complex you can't distill
+
+37:04.560 --> 37:10.800
+it down anymore and trying to pretend that we are at the cusp of cracking through the brain
+
+37:10.800 --> 37:15.680
+and the genome and protein folding and how the ribosome works and nanomachines
+
+37:16.480 --> 37:19.440
+and it's all it's all mythology
+
+37:22.080 --> 37:28.080
+and they want you to believe it's so bad because if you do you'll jump into their control mechanism
+
+37:28.080 --> 37:34.080
+before you know it you won't be able to get out if you've been your memo is finished your inbox is
+
+37:34.080 --> 37:39.760
+under control and you're feeling sharper than you have in a decade sensing your joy your
+
+37:39.840 --> 37:45.680
+playlist chefs to your favorite song sending chills up your spines the music begins to play
+
+37:46.480 --> 37:52.480
+you glance at the program running in the background on your computer screen and notice a now familiar
+
+37:52.480 --> 37:58.240
+site that appears whenever you're overloaded with pleasure your theta brain wave activity
+
+37:58.240 --> 38:05.200
+decreasing in the temporal regions of your brain you mentally move the cursor to the left and scroll
+
+38:05.280 --> 38:11.920
+through your brain data over the past few hours you can see your stress levels rising as the deadline
+
+38:11.920 --> 38:17.920
+to finish your memo approached causing a peak in your beta brain wave activity right before an
+
+38:17.920 --> 38:24.560
+alert popped up telling you to take a brain break but what's that unusual change in your brain
+
+38:24.560 --> 38:31.040
+activity when you're asleep it started earlier in the month you send a text message to your doctor
+
+38:31.040 --> 38:36.960
+with a mental swipe of your cursor could you take a quick look at my brain data anything to
+
+38:36.960 --> 38:43.680
+worry about your mind starts to wander to the new colleague on your team whom you know you shouldn't
+
+38:43.680 --> 38:50.320
+be daydreaming about given the policy against intra office romance but you can't help fantasizing
+
+38:50.320 --> 38:56.400
+just a little but then you start to worry that your boss will notice your amorous feelings
+
+38:56.400 --> 39:00.880
+when she checks your brain activity and shift your attention back to the present
+
+39:01.680 --> 39:05.680
+you breathe a sigh of relief when the email she sends you later that day
+
+39:06.320 --> 39:11.280
+congratulates you on your brain metrics from the past quarter which have earned you another
+
+39:11.280 --> 39:18.160
+performance bonus you head home jamming to the music with your work issued brains hunting earbuds
+
+39:18.160 --> 39:24.800
+still in when you arrive at work the next day a somber cloud has fallen over the office
+
+39:25.600 --> 39:32.160
+along with emails text messages and gps location data the government has subpoenaed
+
+39:32.160 --> 39:37.680
+employees brainwave data from the past year they have compelling evidence that one of your
+
+39:37.680 --> 39:44.400
+co-workers has committed massive wire fraud now they're looking for his co-conspirators
+
+39:45.040 --> 39:50.560
+you discover they are looking for synchronized brain activity between your co-worker and the
+
+39:50.560 --> 39:56.080
+people he has been working with while you know you're innocent of any crime you've been secretly
+
+39:56.080 --> 40:01.200
+working with him on a new startup mentor shaking you remove your earbuds
+
+40:04.880 --> 40:08.320
+that's pretty funny what do you think is it a future you're ready for
+
+40:11.920 --> 40:16.160
+you may be surprised to learn that it's a future that has already arrived
+
+40:16.800 --> 40:21.840
+everything in that video that you just saw is based on technology that is already here today
+
+40:22.640 --> 40:28.960
+artificial intelligence has enabled advances in decoding brain activity in ways that we never
+
+40:28.960 --> 40:37.920
+before thought possible you've heard a lot about AI over the past few years here at Davos it's been
+
+40:37.920 --> 40:45.680
+the talk of the hour but i want to talk about it in a different way which is the ability to decode
+
+40:45.680 --> 40:53.920
+brainwave activity after all what you think what you feel it's all just data data that in large
+
+40:53.920 --> 41:01.040
+patterns can be decoded using artificial intelligence consider this the average person thinks thousands
+
+41:01.040 --> 41:07.760
+of thoughts each day as a thought takes form like a math calculation you're happy so this thing
+
+41:07.760 --> 41:13.120
+that's being shown back here behind her is not real that's just a cartoon that's supposed to
+
+41:13.120 --> 41:18.400
+make you imagine this is what brain activity looks like and this is not what brain activity
+
+41:18.400 --> 41:24.160
+looks like keep that in mind because that's part of the enchantment right they want you to believe
+
+41:24.880 --> 41:30.240
+that if they have enough data and enough data means that the AI can solve it and if it doesn't
+
+41:30.240 --> 41:34.400
+work with that much data they need more data and if it's not going to work now they need a better
+
+41:34.400 --> 41:42.240
+device that can collect more data tired you're hungry you're elated neurons are firing in your
+
+41:42.320 --> 41:49.360
+brain emitting tiny electrical discharges as a particular thought takes form hundreds of thousands
+
+41:49.360 --> 41:56.080
+of neurons firing characteristic patterns that can be decoded with EEG or electroencephalography and
+
+41:56.080 --> 42:05.200
+AI powered devices so the EEG would be reading the brainwaves through the the skull i guess or you
+
+42:05.200 --> 42:10.800
+know you guys you want to implant something in the ear i guess you're in the skulls i guess you
+
+42:10.800 --> 42:21.120
+could do that too but there's no way to adequately sample the just the neocortex even
+
+42:22.320 --> 42:26.320
+by doing EEG on the skull or i'm gonna open even you took the skull off
+
+42:28.000 --> 42:33.760
+i mean a huge portion of the brain is actually inside you know you can't read it from the outside
+
+42:33.760 --> 42:39.520
+edge so it's a very strange it's already very strange like what can you really read with a
+
+42:39.520 --> 42:46.480
+headband and a few electrodes you know it's it's absurd if you put a stethoscope on the outside
+
+42:46.480 --> 42:50.320
+of your monitor you know or four of them you know really what are you going to learn from that
+
+42:51.040 --> 42:57.200
+it's really silly silly talk in fact what you're seeing here is my brain activity while i'm wearing
+
+42:57.200 --> 43:03.680
+a simple device like the one on the right we're not talking about implanted devices of the future
+
+43:03.680 --> 43:10.560
+i'm talking about wearable devices that is generated by the signals that they get from here
+
+43:11.280 --> 43:18.720
+and then extrapolated into a 3d model that's meant to sell that product and meant to sell the idea
+
+43:18.720 --> 43:24.560
+that this is possible i guarantee you a hundred percent bs that are like Fitbit's for your brain
+
+43:26.000 --> 43:32.400
+it used to be that there was very little Fitbit for your brain is exactly the the stupid analogy
+
+43:32.400 --> 43:38.960
+that gives it all away what is a Fitbit it keeps track of your your breathing rate maybe
+
+43:38.960 --> 43:45.120
+and your blood pressure and your heartbeat at most so you get three parameters on your whole body
+
+43:46.400 --> 43:52.800
+and so let's say you could get three parameters from your brain three electrodes let's say you
+
+43:52.800 --> 44:00.080
+could get 30 electrodes what could you possibly learn about a brain with a few more than a million
+
+44:00.080 --> 44:07.360
+neurons i mean we're talking about some serious nonsense here we're talking about
+
+44:07.360 --> 44:12.960
+some extremely serious nonsense here and sold like she's so confident that this is all true but it's
+
+44:12.960 --> 44:21.840
+so not true little we could tell from EEG activity but already using consumer wearable devices these
+
+44:21.840 --> 44:28.800
+are headbands uh hats that have sensors that can pick up your brain wave activity earbuds
+
+44:28.800 --> 44:34.560
+headphones tiny tattoos that you can wear behind your ear we can pick up emotional states like
+
+44:34.560 --> 44:42.320
+are you happy or sad or angry we can pick up and decode faces that you're seeing in your mind
+
+44:43.120 --> 44:51.120
+simple shapes numbers your pin number to your bank account it's not just your brain activity
+
+44:51.680 --> 44:56.240
+here that we can pick up we can also pick up your brain activity in different places like
+
+44:56.240 --> 45:01.360
+as your neurons fire from your brain down your arm and send signals to your hand to tell you
+
+45:01.920 --> 45:10.080
+how to type move all of that could be decoded through electromyography and so now we're talking
+
+45:10.080 --> 45:14.560
+about something completely different where you're listening to your feeling the muscles as they move
+
+45:15.680 --> 45:22.400
+and remember what's going to be here it's not anything magic if the machine learning algorithm
+
+45:22.480 --> 45:32.000
+is taught by you typing and then you typing some more and you typing some more and so it gets the
+
+45:32.000 --> 45:37.200
+key to all of the signals that it's reading yeah then sure it can pick up what you type
+
+45:37.760 --> 45:42.240
+how many letters are there on a keyboard and numbers how many different fans gestures are
+
+45:42.240 --> 45:47.440
+involved in typing and how many electrodes do you need to have to pick up on that
+
+45:47.440 --> 45:56.000
+you see the deal is here is that if you're going to follow the muscles that's ridiculously easy if
+
+45:56.000 --> 46:03.280
+you're going to teach a a brain mind interface how to control a mouse or how to follow your eye move
+
+46:03.280 --> 46:10.320
+that's that's easy but we're talking about real things not what she's talking about now which is
+
+46:10.400 --> 46:18.640
+trying to confuse the simple measurements and their predictive capability if taught what the
+
+46:18.640 --> 46:24.240
+right answers are and what those signals most likely mean then yeah to a certain extent there's
+
+46:24.240 --> 46:32.960
+nine numbers if you teach a machine what your temporal lobe looks like when you think numbers
+
+46:32.960 --> 46:38.800
+and there's a signal there then you could teach it that sure you could but you put that helmet on
+
+46:38.800 --> 46:44.560
+any other person it's not going to be the same signal it might not even be in exactly the same
+
+46:44.560 --> 46:50.160
+place or with the same combination of sub regions and you can only read the outside
+
+46:52.480 --> 46:58.320
+it's extraordinary bs we're not even five minutes in and that's what you're saying here is a device
+
+46:58.320 --> 47:05.360
+now in the form of a simple wearable watch that can pick up that activity and in one of the pivotal
+
+47:05.360 --> 47:11.440
+acquisitions of the field meta acquired this company control labs in 2019 because major
+
+47:11.440 --> 47:19.120
+tech companies are investing and helping to make these devices universally applicable as the way
+
+47:19.120 --> 47:25.600
+in which we interact with the rest of our technology in fact the coming future and i mean near term
+
+47:25.600 --> 47:30.880
+future is these devices being the primary way in which we interact with all of the rest of our
+
+47:30.880 --> 47:38.240
+technology rather than a mouse or a keyboard you can simply swipe with your mind move your hands
+
+47:38.240 --> 47:44.400
+more seamlessly when you're in VR or AR use your brain as the way in which you interact with all
+
+47:44.400 --> 47:50.080
+of the rest of your technology which is an exciting and promising future but also a potentially scary
+
+47:50.080 --> 47:56.640
+one a transformative one one that will change the way that we interact with other people and even
+
+47:56.640 --> 47:59.760
+how we understand ourselves let's take a look
+
+48:07.200 --> 48:13.920
+neural interfaces when they work right and we still have a lot of work to go here feel like magic
+
+48:14.480 --> 48:20.080
+so if you send a control to your muscle saying i want to move my finger it starts in your brain
+
+48:20.080 --> 48:25.920
+it goes down your spine through modern neurons and this is an electrical scene so we should be able
+
+48:25.920 --> 48:32.240
+to grab that electrical signal on the muscle and say oh okay the user wants to move their finger
+
+48:33.040 --> 48:38.880
+what is it like to feel like pushing a button without actually pushing it that could be a
+
+48:38.880 --> 48:43.600
+simple so how are you not pushing the button if the finger that you would normally push the button
+
+48:43.600 --> 48:49.040
+is actually going to move and the muscle it's going to push the button is actually going to move
+
+48:49.840 --> 48:56.800
+and so the physical interaction electrically with some device with a put and push button motion
+
+48:57.600 --> 49:02.080
+is activating it how is that not pushing the button they're making it seem like it's some kind of
+
+49:02.080 --> 49:10.320
+magic but it's really not simple as hey i just want to move this cursor up or move it left
+
+49:11.040 --> 49:16.400
+well normally i would do that by actually moving but here you're able to move that cursor left and
+
+49:16.400 --> 49:21.360
+it's because you and a machine agreed which neurons mean left and which neurons mean right
+
+49:21.360 --> 49:27.520
+you're in this constant conversation with the machine this new formula is such bullshit they're
+
+49:27.520 --> 49:32.960
+just looking at the motion that they can detect in your you know what they're going to do right
+
+49:32.960 --> 49:39.840
+you're going to put the device on and now swipe left how is it any different than putting your
+
+49:39.840 --> 49:45.200
+fingerprint on the fingerprint reader okay now put it off center ten times now put it up
+
+49:45.200 --> 49:51.360
+aside down ten times now put it on the left ten times and then eventually it gets all the
+
+49:51.360 --> 49:56.080
+possibilities that are close enough so that it can definitely tell the difference between you
+
+49:56.080 --> 50:03.280
+and somebody else done now we can read fingerprints with one swipe on a macbook and you can just
+
+50:03.280 --> 50:10.480
+open it up it's so easy as long as you first input 100 times a picture of your thumbprint
+
+50:10.640 --> 50:18.880
+as long as you sit down in the chair and thumb wrestle yourself for five minutes and follow
+
+50:18.880 --> 50:24.160
+the directions on the screen of how to thumb wrestle yourself then the watch can learn how
+
+50:24.160 --> 50:29.440
+you're thumb wrestling yourself and predict what you want to do and they'll roughly coincide done
+
+50:30.320 --> 50:39.040
+how stupidly easy is that that's not magic that's not reading your mind that's not you having a
+
+50:39.040 --> 50:45.520
+conversation with a freaking machine that's you having a wristwatch that takes the place of a
+
+50:45.520 --> 50:50.080
+freaking mouse come on this is ridiculous
+
+50:52.720 --> 50:58.800
+control it requires us to build an interface that adapts to you and why is that screen floating in
+
+50:58.800 --> 51:03.760
+front of her face an exciting future see where's that coming from it's a future that has already
+
+51:03.840 --> 51:12.000
+arrived in many contacts throughout the world and especially in workplaces so it turns out that
+
+51:12.000 --> 51:17.600
+one of the most compelling early applications of this technology is to be able to decode at least
+
+51:17.600 --> 51:23.440
+some simple effective states of individuals that can potentially improve their well-being
+
+51:24.240 --> 51:31.280
+potentially improve productivity but certainly transform what our lives look like in the workplace
+
+51:31.280 --> 51:37.200
+and in our everyday activities well we can't literally decode complex thought just yet
+
+51:37.920 --> 51:43.280
+there's a lot that we can already decode that's quite relevant see that's a huge gap we can't
+
+51:43.280 --> 51:50.720
+complex we can't decode complex thought just yet but there's a lot we can do like interpret the
+
+51:50.720 --> 51:56.800
+movements of your thumb and use your eye movements to direct a mouse on a screen as long as you wear
+
+51:56.800 --> 52:00.160
+our big fat glasses and use our special screen it works great
+
+52:02.880 --> 52:10.880
+we can read your mind as long as you read this book with our with our glasses on and our our
+
+52:10.880 --> 52:16.720
+headband on you read this list of words over and over and over and again out loud and four days later
+
+52:16.720 --> 52:21.360
+we'll be able to read your mind it's great as long as you stick to our script and only use those
+
+52:21.360 --> 52:24.880
+words in those combinations we can usually figure it out it's like 80 correct
+
+52:26.400 --> 52:31.440
+that's what this technology is that's what she's selling you as all we're almost at complex thought
+
+52:33.600 --> 52:38.000
+we're almost able to drill a hole into the back of your monitor and figure out how it works
+
+52:39.520 --> 52:46.400
+we're almost able to use a stethoscope and a flashlight and a couple thermal sensors and a
+
+52:46.400 --> 52:53.440
+few wires to figure out and augment the picture on the screen it's no problem and you know what's
+
+52:53.440 --> 52:58.800
+really cool is you can take the HDMI cord that's coming out of the coming into the back of your
+
+52:58.800 --> 53:02.880
+monitor and you can just monitor the signal that's going through it it's really easy
+
+53:03.920 --> 53:07.840
+and that's what they're going to do they're going to monitor the signals going through your brain
+
+53:07.840 --> 53:12.880
+in a useful way by just monitoring the electrical signals that they can catch through your skull
+
+53:12.880 --> 53:14.000
+i'm sure that's plenty
+
+53:16.960 --> 53:25.200
+whoops for the workplace environment consider the fact that right now many workplaces
+
+53:25.840 --> 53:32.080
+have individuals who have to be awake and alert at all times in order to do their jobs well
+
+53:33.360 --> 53:40.800
+sometimes that doesn't happen take this example where this trucker decided to take a 20 hour shot
+
+53:41.280 --> 53:48.480
+for a 1500 mile ride it's well exceeding the amount of time that any trucker long haul trucker
+
+53:48.480 --> 53:56.240
+is supposed to drive his employer didn't discover his choices until the fatal accident that was
+
+53:56.240 --> 54:02.880
+disastrous for the company and cost many lives but he could have known much sooner he could have
+
+54:02.880 --> 54:09.120
+detected whether or not the trucker was entering into the earliest stages of micro sleep starting
+
+54:09.120 --> 54:14.960
+to go from being alert to tired well before it occurred and he could have done so through a
+
+54:14.960 --> 54:21.920
+simple hat a simple wearable hat that has embedded electrode sensors that would pick up brainwave
+
+54:21.920 --> 54:27.840
+activity and give a score between one to five to help the employer and the employee know
+
+54:28.400 --> 54:33.280
+what stage of alertness the person was experiencing and whether or not they were starting to fall
+
+54:33.280 --> 54:38.560
+asleep now you might think no so is that that sounds like some serious reading of the brain there huh
+
+54:39.280 --> 54:47.200
+boy that's sophisticated as hell okay we have driver assist technology in cars already why do we need
+
+54:47.200 --> 54:52.880
+this it's because this happens much sooner much more accurately and it gives you the real-time
+
+54:52.880 --> 54:59.440
+information that you need in order to make choices to intervene before a person is parallously
+
+54:59.440 --> 55:04.640
+exhausted and we as a society should want that we should want the technology that enables us to be
+
+55:04.640 --> 55:10.240
+safer to all be able to exist in an environment we should want that where we pay people enough
+
+55:10.240 --> 55:15.040
+money so that they don't have to drive 20 hour shifts in order to make that extra buck and we
+
+55:15.040 --> 55:20.640
+should you know pay people enough money and and work people in a way that's very humane so that
+
+55:20.640 --> 55:26.640
+they don't break the rules maybe we can just do it that way instead of putting electronic sensors
+
+55:26.640 --> 55:31.600
+on people's heads i don't know it doesn't look like brain reading yet though this is not really
+
+55:31.600 --> 55:36.960
+brain control it's not really anything like what she's talking about even though she wants
+
+55:36.960 --> 55:42.400
+you to make you believe that reading brain waves is a great idea and that everybody should be
+
+55:42.400 --> 55:49.840
+recording their brain waves as if they matter as if they mean anything what you have to understand
+
+55:49.840 --> 55:56.000
+here is this is all part of the bamboozlement they want you to imagine that we're this close you
+
+55:56.000 --> 56:01.680
+know all you got to do is start wearing this shit and before you know it yep it's all going to be
+
+56:01.680 --> 56:05.920
+there the AI is going to figure it all out it's going to become sentient the whole nine yards
+
+56:07.200 --> 56:12.320
+and it's ridiculous it's ridiculous they've shown us a picture of a lady wearing a
+
+56:12.960 --> 56:18.160
+Wonder Woman headband and now they're telling us that we're going to have some kind of baseball cap
+
+56:18.160 --> 56:22.320
+with a sensor inside of it hopefully it'll be a better looking trucker cap than that
+
+56:23.200 --> 56:29.200
+and that sensor will understand when somebody is going into micro sleep and they'll get a call
+
+56:29.200 --> 56:34.880
+from their boss and then the you know the family of five won't get killed what kind of nonsense is
+
+56:34.880 --> 56:40.720
+this commercial drivers or individuals who need to be wide awake are wide awake when they're
+
+56:40.720 --> 56:48.160
+supposed to be because when they're not the consequences are disastrous while playing crashes are much
+
+56:48.160 --> 56:53.760
+less frequent than other forms of accidents at least 16 playing crashes in the past decade
+
+56:53.760 --> 57:02.320
+have been attributed to pilot fatigue which is probably why in more than 5,000 companies across
+
+57:02.320 --> 57:08.640
+the world employees are already having their brainwave activity monitored to test for their
+
+57:08.640 --> 57:14.400
+fatigue levels whether it's the Beijing Shanghai line where train conductors are required to
+
+57:14.400 --> 57:19.040
+wear hats that have sensors that pick up their brain activity or mining companies throughout the
+
+57:19.040 --> 57:26.240
+world brain activity is such a broad stroke of a term to use here and she does that on purpose
+
+57:27.520 --> 57:33.360
+I mean their brain activity could be associated with a tilt sensor too their brain activity I mean
+
+57:37.440 --> 57:41.840
+chances are very good that the only thing that they can do is tell when somebody starts to daydream
+
+57:41.920 --> 57:48.160
+or go to sleep you can't tell whether they're adequately paying attention to where they're driving
+
+57:48.160 --> 57:53.040
+they could be reading and probably paying attention just as hard as if they were looking out the
+
+57:53.040 --> 58:00.880
+window but I don't think these people are capable of what they're claiming they're capable of but
+
+58:00.880 --> 58:04.960
+what they're trying to argue here is that this is the way forward that we're going to do this
+
+58:04.960 --> 58:10.240
+that you're going to have you know an apple headband or something that's going to keep track of all
+
+58:10.240 --> 58:16.080
+this stuff employees are already having their brain activity monitored and it may wear it very
+
+58:16.080 --> 58:22.320
+well may be something that we want to embrace as a society okay you might be shuttering right that
+
+58:22.320 --> 58:27.440
+was certainly my first reaction when I discovered that we are tracking brainwave activity okay so
+
+58:27.440 --> 58:32.400
+here she's starting the enchantment number two where you know she tries to identify with her
+
+58:32.400 --> 58:36.560
+audience you know I know you're probably worried this was the way I fell too but now follow me
+
+58:37.200 --> 58:42.160
+into the next deep dark cave in the workplace and that we can do it at all but I believe we
+
+58:42.160 --> 58:48.000
+need to have a much more nuanced conversation about it because I think done well neuro technology
+
+58:48.000 --> 58:53.840
+has extraordinary promise done poorly it could become the most oppressive technology we've ever
+
+58:53.840 --> 58:59.600
+introduced in a wide scale across society we still have and so isn't it weird it's almost like saying
+
+58:59.600 --> 59:05.600
+slavery could be the best way forward in terms of trying to make everything work out so that
+
+59:05.600 --> 59:12.720
+everybody has a job and everybody pitches in and even the useless eaters become useful but
+
+59:12.720 --> 59:18.320
+slavery has a very bad side and it could be one of the worst things we ever bring back from the past
+
+59:18.320 --> 59:25.760
+so we've got to be very careful monitoring genetic information of babies and all of their medical
+
+59:25.760 --> 59:31.520
+data and giving it freely to pharmaceutical companies could be useful for curing all kinds
+
+59:31.520 --> 59:36.640
+of diseases it'd be a great thing could also be a super scary thing if it gets in the wrong
+
+59:36.640 --> 59:45.840
+hands or somebody decides to make a bio weapon it's all the same kind of bamboozling where the
+
+59:45.840 --> 59:51.360
+trade-offs for this future godlike power are that we could also have future demons
+
+59:52.720 --> 59:57.920
+and so as we expand the power of the good gods we also expand the power of the bad demons
+
+59:58.480 --> 01:00:06.960
+but that comes along with taking the place of our deities of the past and shedding the shackles
+
+01:00:07.600 --> 01:00:14.480
+of our previous ideas of what's sacred that's what they're talking about here it's absolutely
+
+01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:19.920
+pathetic these futurists and when you see through them they're just shenanigans they're just charlatans
+
+01:00:20.560 --> 01:00:28.160
+blasphemers they're they're they're they're off to make it right all right well does the same
+
+01:00:28.160 --> 01:00:35.280
+analysis hold true if instead of trying to monitor whether a person is falling asleep or a week
+
+01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:39.520
+we decide that we want to monitor their attention levels to see whether or not they're paying
+
+01:00:39.520 --> 01:00:46.160
+attention and being productive i would argue maybe not how many of you wear something like an apple
+
+01:00:46.240 --> 01:00:53.040
+watch that bit smart device yeah many people it's a many billion dollar company i mean many
+
+01:00:53.040 --> 01:00:58.320
+billion dollar industry at this point wearable device is quantifiable self is just a widespread
+
+01:00:58.320 --> 01:01:05.680
+movement most people are quantifiable self what a stupid it's all this this is all part of the
+
+01:01:05.680 --> 01:01:11.760
+enchantment this ridiculous language to make you think that there's so much lingo around it because
+
+01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:18.640
+it's such a consensus of interest such a consensus of what the next thing is that there's all this
+
+01:01:18.640 --> 01:01:23.360
+lingo that you're never heard of but she could just you know throw out there and spread around
+
+01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:30.800
+like cards like a dealer very comfortable with at least some forms of human quantification in
+
+01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:37.600
+fact it's become so widespread that most people feel like there's not that much to worry about when
+
+01:01:37.600 --> 01:01:40.160
+it comes to doing something like monitoring your heart rate
+
+01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:49.120
+but it turns out that that kind of technology in the workplace particularly when it's used to
+
+01:01:49.120 --> 01:01:54.720
+monitor productivity of employees where they're moving throughout the factory floor whether or
+
+01:01:54.720 --> 01:02:01.600
+not they're taking breaks or unscheduled breaks is the kind of thing that employees resist unionized
+
+01:02:01.680 --> 01:02:07.600
+against rise up against and undermines morale what we've seen consistently is companies from
+
+01:02:07.600 --> 01:02:13.840
+amazon to tesco to walmart and others have introduced what is considered to be bossware or
+
+01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:20.080
+surveillance technology that employees really don't like it even if it makes their lives better
+
+01:02:21.600 --> 01:02:30.000
+okay well if you don't like your job just quit but what if there's nowhere to go what if everywhere
+
+01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:37.360
+has ubiquitous monitoring in fact during the pandemic what we so what is that proposal for you
+
+01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:44.480
+holy crap that almost took the wind out of me so employees they don't like it employees don't
+
+01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:48.640
+like it when you make them wear a device that allows you to walk them or walk watch them walk
+
+01:02:48.640 --> 01:02:55.760
+around the warehouse monitor them on their breaks they don't like that they don't like bossware
+
+01:02:56.000 --> 01:03:03.440
+so what happens if you can just quit and there's no other place to go because everybody's using it
+
+01:03:04.160 --> 01:03:10.000
+that's exactly their plan that's why she's saying it here right now that's how we fix that problem
+
+01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:16.640
+guys we're all in the room together we're all bosses of big companies wearing iPhones or wearing
+
+01:03:16.640 --> 01:03:21.840
+eye watches and that's what this is about that's what she's saying right now
+
+01:03:24.160 --> 01:03:30.320
+it's incredible so if we just get everybody to do it that no one can complain about it anymore
+
+01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:34.960
+we're all private business in america so we can do it all we want found was that 80 percent of
+
+01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:41.680
+companies admitted that they use at least some forms of so-called bossware technology to monitor
+
+01:03:41.680 --> 01:03:47.520
+the productivity of their employees whether it's a white collar employee monitoring was on their
+
+01:03:47.520 --> 01:03:53.280
+screen or in any other context surveillance is part of our everyday lives surveillance for
+
+01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:58.160
+productivity is part of what has become the norm in the workplace and maybe with good reason
+
+01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:04.080
+nine out of ten employees waste time during the workday they focus on other things there may be
+
+01:04:04.080 --> 01:04:09.920
+good reasons why we want to be able to find better ways to monitor whether somebody is paying attention
+
+01:04:10.560 --> 01:04:16.640
+or they're doing something different the newest way to monitor attention is through a device like
+
+01:04:16.640 --> 01:04:23.200
+this one these are ear pods that are launching later this year these ear pods much like the video
+
+01:04:23.200 --> 01:04:28.480
+you watched earlier are ear pods that can pick up brainwave activity and tell whether or not a
+
+01:04:28.480 --> 01:04:36.320
+person is paying attention or their mind is wandering okay well you might think fine but even if
+
+01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:40.400
+we can tell whether a person is paying attention or their mind is wandering you can't tell
+
+01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:45.760
+what they're paying attention to you would be wrong turns out that you can not only tell
+
+01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:50.800
+whether whether a person is paying attention or their mind is wandering but you can discriminate
+
+01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:55.680
+between the kinds of things that they're paying attention to whether they're doing something like
+
+01:04:55.680 --> 01:05:03.280
+central tasks like programming peripheral tasks like writing documentation or unrelated tasks
+
+01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:08.240
+like surfing social media or online browsing when you combine brainwave activity
+
+01:05:08.240 --> 01:05:13.680
+see what she's saying here is that if you classify behavior into central behaviors peripheral
+
+01:05:13.680 --> 01:05:21.200
+behaviors and unrelated behaviors to work then we can decode brainwaves after a time of learning
+
+01:05:22.080 --> 01:05:30.400
+for each individual person do you see and so yes over people these brainwaves average out to
+
+01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:35.600
+something like very high concentration middle concentration distracted broken concentration
+
+01:05:37.120 --> 01:05:41.200
+just like when you're watching the tv show versus when the commercials come on you're
+
+01:05:41.200 --> 01:05:45.920
+surprised that if they monitor a few places in your brain they can see the difference between
+
+01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:52.800
+that are you really surprised are you surprised that they can see the difference between somebody
+
+01:05:52.800 --> 01:06:00.720
+trying to work on a program and the logic of a program versus surfing twitter are you surprised
+
+01:06:00.720 --> 01:06:08.880
+so then why would you be so afraid of it it's not decoding anything it's like saying do you think
+
+01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:12.560
+you could tell the difference between somebody who's actively using the bathroom and somebody
+
+01:06:12.560 --> 01:06:18.800
+that's not i can i can think of all kinds of different ways to set up a device that would be
+
+01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:22.400
+able to tell the difference between somebody using the bathroom and somebody who's not
+
+01:06:24.560 --> 01:06:26.560
+and these are very similar things
+
+01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:32.640
+if the tasks that you classify as central peripheral and unrelated
+
+01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:40.000
+have signatures that are on a macro scale very different sure that's really great you can tell
+
+01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:44.800
+the difference between those things but that doesn't mean that five years from now we're
+
+01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:50.240
+going to be able to tell what central task you're working on or what peripheral task you're
+
+01:06:50.240 --> 01:06:57.600
+thinking about or what social media landscape you're surfing and what you're actually looking at
+
+01:06:59.680 --> 01:07:05.040
+but that's the implication you know just like when we talk about retroviruses and the fact that
+
+01:07:05.040 --> 01:07:11.040
+we can now make them because DNA is even cheaper to make doesn't mean we understand
+
+01:07:11.120 --> 01:07:21.120
+and it's the same exact thing and just because we're getting ever closer to making super cheap
+
+01:07:21.120 --> 01:07:26.000
+DNA doesn't mean we've learned how to use it and we learned how it expresses and you know how it
+
+01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:28.960
+orchestrates the pattern integrity that's life
+
+01:07:31.680 --> 01:07:36.320
+and so just because you can tell the difference between a very concentrated person working on a
+
+01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:41.280
+program and a person who's surfing on the internet doesn't mean that eventually you're
+
+01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:47.840
+going to be able to read the brain or augment its function that's the whole point here
+
+01:07:51.520 --> 01:07:56.240
+just because we can sequence cheap now doesn't mean we're eventually going to win because now we
+
+01:07:56.240 --> 01:08:02.080
+can really feed the data into that EI and it's cheap just because we start recording from a
+
+01:08:02.080 --> 01:08:06.800
+bunch of people's eye eye watches doesn't mean we're suddenly going to learn how the brain works
+
+01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:12.960
+or if people start wearing these hats that's not how this works
+
+01:08:15.120 --> 01:08:20.960
+the activity together with other forms of software and surveillance technology the power
+
+01:08:20.960 --> 01:08:27.920
+becomes quite precise so what do we do with this what do we do with technology that enables us
+
+01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:34.480
+to monitor brainwave activity for attention do we embrace it do we resist it I believe that
+
+01:08:34.480 --> 01:08:39.760
+there is a pathway forward with such technology but it's putting it in the hands of so you know it
+
+01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:46.240
+would be great if you just stopped here you could really make a shitty work week and make a really
+
+01:08:46.240 --> 01:08:53.040
+shitty workplace where people really did get tracked around the warehouse and get tracked on
+
+01:08:53.040 --> 01:08:57.520
+their behavior and get tracked on their attention and get graded on their performance that you
+
+01:08:57.520 --> 01:09:01.920
+could do that and maybe that's what they want to do
+
+01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:09.120
+but that doesn't mean that they're reading your mind or that they're going to control you in a
+
+01:09:09.120 --> 01:09:15.360
+way that it's any different than having a dog collar on you this is not magic technology
+
+01:09:16.400 --> 01:09:24.800
+this is not mind reading but they want you to think it is so that you feel limp you feel helpless
+
+01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:30.720
+this is like them telling you that it would be really handy if everybody would just wear ankle
+
+01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:38.240
+ankle bracelets yeah it'd be really handy but we're not going to do it
+
+01:09:40.480 --> 01:09:43.440
+and they want you to believe that this is some kind of inevitability
+
+01:09:45.360 --> 01:09:52.160
+employees enabling them to use it for themselves as a choice whether or not they want to focus
+
+01:09:52.240 --> 01:09:57.120
+whether or not they want the technology in order to improve their own performance but not using it
+
+01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:04.720
+as a measure of their brain metrics to decide whether to fire them hire them or to watch for their
+
+01:10:05.280 --> 01:10:10.240
+lagging cognitive decline over time and using it as a way to discriminate against them
+
+01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:18.400
+we might soon even use the technology to help people wake back up this is a haptic scarf that
+
+01:10:18.400 --> 01:10:23.120
+MIT Media Lab has developed which uses brainwave technology in a responsive way
+
+01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:28.720
+MIT Media Labs is one of those very very shady places
+
+01:10:33.200 --> 01:10:39.760
+one of those very very shady places that a lot of these people have gone in and out of
+
+01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:45.040
+and many people that go through MIT Media Labs go on to work for the government
+
+01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:50.080
+MIT Media Labs is a place where
+
+01:10:52.240 --> 01:10:54.480
+where
+
+01:10:55.760 --> 01:11:02.480
+Esfelt I believe is associated with MIT and the media labs Esfelt is the guy who invented genetic
+
+01:11:02.480 --> 01:11:09.040
+gene drives and has contributed a lot to the refinement of directed evolution and protein and
+
+01:11:09.120 --> 01:11:16.880
+enzyme function very interesting reference to give a person a little buzz literally
+
+01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:21.440
+when their mind starts to wander to help them refocus and hone their attention
+
+01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:26.640
+there's another pathway forward with this technology which I find to actually be quite
+
+01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:32.320
+exciting and something that I think companies should be experimenting with and that is the use of
+
+01:11:32.320 --> 01:11:38.080
+the technology to make the workplace a more responsive workplace to the individual worker
+
+01:11:39.040 --> 01:11:44.160
+we've all heard the whole idea that robots are coming for our jobs that there will be no jobs
+
+01:11:44.160 --> 01:11:49.040
+left for humans with generative AI I think we have good reason to wonder how we're going to
+
+01:11:49.040 --> 01:11:55.040
+integrate that in ways that keep us relevant and challenged and important in the workplace
+
+01:11:55.040 --> 01:12:01.120
+but there's a different pathway forward which is a responsive workplace one where humans and
+
+01:12:01.120 --> 01:12:08.240
+robots and AI work seamlessly together in order to optimize a better and healthier workplace
+
+01:12:09.040 --> 01:12:15.280
+in one experiment Penn State researchers were able to show that by monitoring brainwave activity
+
+01:12:15.280 --> 01:12:22.480
+with AI in a factory setting the robot could send stress levels in the individual and change the
+
+01:12:22.480 --> 01:12:28.720
+speed with which they were giving tasks to the human calibrating it so that rather than suffering
+
+01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:35.120
+from cognitive overload it would bring it to levels of cognitive load this idea of cognitive
+
+01:12:35.120 --> 01:12:41.760
+ergonomics is what I think is the future of the healthier workplace a place that adapts to our
+
+01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:49.680
+abilities slows down when we need to slow down and helps us to reset so that we don't suffer from
+
+01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:56.880
+endless cycles of stress in fact Microsoft recently did a study on employees during the pandemic
+
+01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:02.960
+using brainwave activity they were able to discover a couple of interesting insights one is zoom based
+
+01:13:03.040 --> 01:13:08.000
+or other video based meetings are more tiring for our brains than in-person conversations
+
+01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:13.120
+and this is because of misaligned gaze because of also the way we've scheduled it
+
+01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:17.040
+people do back-to-back meetings where you have five-minute breaks in between
+
+01:13:17.040 --> 01:13:21.200
+they also discovered something else that's quite interesting which is that the different backgrounds
+
+01:13:21.200 --> 01:13:26.240
+for each person is also more stressful for the brain so they introduced together mode
+
+01:13:26.240 --> 01:13:30.240
+which has the same shared background for each of the employee each of the people who are on the
+
+01:13:30.240 --> 01:13:36.000
+screen which brings down stress levels all responsive to brainwave activity these are
+
+01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:43.360
+innovations that can make our lives better so what's the pathway forward in some ways and in some
+
+01:13:43.360 --> 01:13:51.360
+context surveillance of the human brain can be powerful helpful useful transform the workplace
+
+01:13:51.360 --> 01:13:57.760
+and make our lives better it also has a dystopian possibility of being used to exploit
+
+01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:06.880
+and bring to the surface our most secret self it threatens fundamentally what our own self
+
+01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:12.480
+identity is in some ways and threatens to become a tool of oppression but we can make a choice
+
+01:14:13.120 --> 01:14:18.480
+we can make she's telling you what they want to do with it they want to use it as a tool of oppression
+
+01:14:18.480 --> 01:14:25.280
+they want you to get rid of your they wanted to take away your feeling of having a self identity
+
+01:14:25.280 --> 01:14:31.520
+and being a a sovereign human they wanted they know it will do that that's not a possibility that's
+
+01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:36.640
+what it will do but they have to acknowledge that in a way that makes it seem like they're
+
+01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:43.600
+going to try really hard to avoid it you know but we're going to jump out of this plane and so
+
+01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:49.440
+eventually you better hope your parachute is going to open but hopefully it will i mean this is a
+
+01:14:49.440 --> 01:14:58.240
+plan so it i i guess i can keep it going i'm going to speed it up a little bit because i had
+
+01:14:58.240 --> 01:15:03.440
+one other video i wanted to show and i didn't want to take all night i did want to be done on time
+
+01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:11.280
+and i can't speed it up shit okay here we go a choice to use it well we can make a choice to have
+
+01:15:11.280 --> 01:15:16.080
+it be something that empowers individuals that helps them gain insights into their own mental
+
+01:15:16.080 --> 01:15:21.520
+health and well-being improves their own productivity and wellness and sets them on a pathway
+
+01:15:22.320 --> 01:15:28.880
+so there's no debate about whether this is a violation or or encroaching on what is sacred
+
+01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:34.720
+there's no there's no thought of this at all rather this is kind of how are we going to pitch it
+
+01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:41.760
+how do we bring this home to our corporate board meeting how do we work this in over the next five
+
+01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:47.840
+years that's what this is all about and now i want you to i'm just going to move to this next
+
+01:15:47.840 --> 01:15:52.160
+video because i i don't think we need to hear her anymore even i she might say something more
+
+01:15:52.160 --> 01:15:59.360
+interesting afterward if somebody wants to watch the whole video please do i'll put the link in the
+
+01:15:59.360 --> 01:16:05.920
+chat here and then maybe and then maybe we can do it but i want you to hear what this kind of
+
+01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:11.680
+shit excuse me i'm just wearing a lot tonight what this kind of stuff has done to our
+
+01:16:13.120 --> 01:16:19.840
+our lesser of our our discussing moderators on the internet here so this is another
+
+01:16:20.480 --> 01:16:26.000
+this is a person who gets like cast irl will be live in miami with point us it's probably mean to
+
+01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:32.320
+say i shouldn't say that nor a link this the guy who gets many many views every night and he always
+
+01:16:32.400 --> 01:16:38.400
+assembles a consensus illusion consensus illusion is a bunch of people who are going to discuss
+
+01:16:38.400 --> 01:16:44.880
+something and usually come to an agreement and that agreement serves as an illusion of consensus
+
+01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:51.040
+that many of their viewers then are bamboozled by and this guy gets 45 000 viewers sometimes at
+
+01:16:51.040 --> 01:16:55.360
+night and so he's got quite a lot of influence a lot of people watch his videos and cuts afterward
+
+01:16:56.240 --> 01:17:03.200
+and so listen to them talking about the idea that neural link which is a implantable device of
+
+01:17:03.200 --> 01:17:12.480
+some kind made by elan musk is going to be started to use um and it's it's quite comical really because
+
+01:17:12.480 --> 01:17:23.440
+this is one of those things which will go so so so spectacularly wrong um but let's just listen
+
+01:17:23.440 --> 01:17:30.720
+to what just this headline does to people who have been faithfully watching television and trying
+
+01:17:30.720 --> 01:17:37.920
+to decode it faithfully using social media to try and learn the science of neural link and the science
+
+01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:44.640
+of the brain and maybe watching joe rogan and a few other things but not really reading books
+
+01:17:45.280 --> 01:17:50.320
+not really reading papers not really trying to understand where the cutting edge is but just
+
+01:17:50.400 --> 01:17:57.680
+assuming that whatever's on the internet is pretty close first in human clinical trials is open for
+
+01:17:57.680 --> 01:18:03.120
+recruitment and i want to soften this a little bit what's going to happen right now is that
+
+01:18:03.120 --> 01:18:07.920
+people who are paralyzed who are deaf who can't see are going to get a chance to have their lives
+
+01:18:07.920 --> 01:18:12.240
+back or you know if some people are i want to imply that some people are you know miserable or
+
+01:18:12.240 --> 01:18:15.120
+unhappy where some people are totally fine and happy and they've adapted and they're living good
+
+01:18:15.120 --> 01:18:19.840
+lives but some people may be thinking this is my chance to maybe walk again this is why neural link
+
+01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:27.920
+is awesome the scary thing is neural link is the is the door that once you open it up the path out
+
+01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:34.320
+leads to people isolating themselves in pods where they have feeding tubes full of pumping bug
+
+01:18:34.880 --> 01:18:40.000
+slime into their bellies while they live in the matrix by choice but this is the the latest big
+
+01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:45.280
+news Elon must read about it saying the first human patient will soon receive a neural link device
+
+01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:49.920
+this ultimately has the potential to restore full body movement in the long term neural link
+
+01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:56.160
+hopes to play a role in AI risk civilization risk reduction by improving human to AI and human
+
+01:18:56.160 --> 01:19:03.040
+to human bandwidth by several orders of magnitude imagine if Stephen Hawking had had this imagine
+
+01:19:03.040 --> 01:19:11.040
+if Stephen Hawking had had this it's such a ridiculous statement but taken at very much face value by
+
+01:19:11.120 --> 01:19:17.840
+these some of them are not children that worship or at least are paid to worship or
+
+01:19:17.840 --> 01:19:24.880
+suggest or or coached to worship Elon Musk and this sort of futuristic vision of things without
+
+01:19:24.880 --> 01:19:31.040
+actually worshiping it essentially they say it's coming and it's inevitable but you don't really
+
+01:19:31.040 --> 01:19:39.920
+want it and they talk in crazy terms like he just did where people are going to just plug in
+
+01:19:40.880 --> 01:19:46.080
+and turn off as if we're ever going to be able to interface with the brain in that way
+
+01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:50.880
+and so that's what they're going to talk about here is the idea that if this technology keeps
+
+01:19:50.880 --> 01:19:58.880
+going you're going to be able to experience a video game just plug in and experience a video
+
+01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:05.200
+game and if you could experience a video game why in the world would you ever want to live a real
+
+01:20:05.200 --> 01:20:10.480
+life that's what they're going to say right here and that's what they want you to believe that's
+
+01:20:10.480 --> 01:20:16.640
+what the controllers want you to think that this is an inevitability what they've been showing
+
+01:20:16.640 --> 01:20:26.240
+you in cartoons is inevitability and it's not an inevitability it's a it's a mythology that they
+
+01:20:26.240 --> 01:20:34.960
+are pushing on us in order to get us to go limp and we have to stop it right now we can't let
+
+01:20:35.040 --> 01:20:42.640
+these people make us believe that these these futuristic places are even are even destinations
+
+01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:48.880
+that are possible to reach because they're not um I also want to just point out what he's saying
+
+01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:54.560
+about AI risk civilization risk reduction he's saying that if humans integrate with the AI it
+
+01:20:54.560 --> 01:21:00.960
+won't destroy us he's talking about integrating human brains with other human brains and I think
+
+01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:06.560
+Elon does great work and I think it's important that you know to a certain degree like we certainly
+
+01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:12.640
+want to cure people who are paralyzed with medical technology but I got to say man it's going to
+
+01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:18.080
+get scary you guys ready to plug your brain into the matrix yeah absolutely not no that's it's like
+
+01:21:18.080 --> 01:21:22.240
+yeah I like I like what Elon Musk is doing with twitter I'm not about to let him put a computer
+
+01:21:22.240 --> 01:21:28.080
+in my head I mean that that's ridiculous and you know the other aspect of this is that the first
+
+01:21:28.080 --> 01:21:33.840
+people to take advantage of this will be like the elite the people in the um you know and take
+
+01:21:33.840 --> 01:21:39.280
+advantage of it in a way that is more than just like helping a paralyzed person walk which you
+
+01:21:39.280 --> 01:21:42.640
+know obviously that's the way that they're going to introduce it because who would disagree with
+
+01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:48.880
+that but you know it's way beyond that when Neuralink is capable of in terms of like increasing your
+
+01:21:48.880 --> 01:21:56.400
+IQ or your all sorts of stuff and so you know you're going to have a sort of feedback loop where
+
+01:21:56.400 --> 01:22:01.120
+the people in the highest positions of power in the society get it first and that just solidifies
+
+01:22:01.120 --> 01:22:08.400
+their position as they you know continue to uh because you know having a brain interface is so
+
+01:22:08.400 --> 01:22:14.400
+much better than having really high speed access to all of the wall street trading data before
+
+01:22:14.400 --> 01:22:23.440
+anybody else gets it having a brain interface will make people like billionaires they'll be even
+
+01:22:23.440 --> 01:22:27.200
+more powerful if they have a brain interface as opposed to you know I don't know
+
+01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:37.280
+secret access to lobbying organizations in the government and and personal relationships with
+
+01:22:37.280 --> 01:22:41.760
+everybody in the bureaucracy no no it's the brain chip that we got to worry about and the fact that
+
+01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:48.560
+those rich people are going to get it before us that's that that's the kind of nonsense we're
+
+01:22:48.640 --> 01:22:55.120
+talking about here like yeah I'm really mad because I think everybody all those rich people
+
+01:22:55.120 --> 01:22:59.440
+are going to get even smarter than the poor people because the rich people will get the super
+
+01:22:59.440 --> 01:23:07.280
+super brain chips before the poor people and then it'll be even more racism and more class struggle
+
+01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:13.280
+because now you'll have a bunch of rich white kids walking around with a with a helmet that
+
+01:23:13.280 --> 01:23:19.840
+makes them smarter it's never gonna it's never going to be okay and it's just ridiculous
+
+01:23:21.440 --> 01:23:25.120
+where the levers of power are they never going to talk about it and they want you to
+
+01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:32.800
+to worry constantly about the future coming troubles the ways that the rich people are going to get
+
+01:23:32.800 --> 01:23:39.200
+ahead the way that the corporations are going to enslave us so that you never think about changing
+
+01:23:39.280 --> 01:23:43.840
+the vaccine act from 1986 or change just wiping the prep act right off the map
+
+01:23:45.360 --> 01:23:49.840
+so you never think about just changing fundamentally the way the CDC and the FDA work
+
+01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:56.720
+but you focus on absolute nonsense like the possibility of eventually is going to be brain
+
+01:23:56.720 --> 01:24:01.680
+implants and stuff man and those rich people are going to get them before the poor people
+
+01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:07.440
+occupied that they say those who have quadriplegia due to cervical spine a spinal cord injury
+
+01:24:07.440 --> 01:24:12.160
+or ALS may qualify so for now i mean we're not talking about plugging people's
+
+01:24:12.160 --> 01:24:15.760
+brains into the matrix nora link is actually is going to be saving lives and and curing
+
+01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:19.760
+ailments and i can respect that i know a lot of people are saying don't rag on nora link because
+
+01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:23.600
+it's going to provide uh you know treatment for a lot of people and that's really really cool
+
+01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:29.760
+my fear i mean all this is is that now they're going to try and stick wires in a brain and and
+
+01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:38.080
+rewire uh the the spinal cord they're going to try it like that hasn't been tried in animals
+
+01:24:38.080 --> 01:24:44.640
+before i mean this is just a joke to me they must know or they don't know and they're just doing
+
+01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:48.640
+it anyway they've been coached to say this stuff and just go along with it read this out loud
+
+01:24:49.760 --> 01:24:58.880
+do this this press release because if you could do that you know restore quadriplegia's motion
+
+01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:06.240
+with with a precisely robotically implanted brain computer interface the prime study
+
+01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:10.720
+because it's going to be robotically implanted right there's a machine you're going to put your
+
+01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:17.520
+head in that's going to do the surgery it's all just so ridiculous it's just all so ridiculous
+
+01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:25.680
+but the idea is if they're doing it then i guess it must be real if they leaked it then it must be
+
+01:25:25.680 --> 01:25:31.200
+real i mean if it's a cdc leaked slide set that it must be real i mean if it's a
+
+01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:39.200
+a department of defense database leak it must be real if it's a press release where they say
+
+01:25:39.200 --> 01:25:44.400
+they're going to use a precisely robotically implanted brain computer interface it must be real
+
+01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:50.320
+and if Tim Poole says they're going to cure quadriplegics with it at first before they give it to the
+
+01:25:50.320 --> 01:25:55.600
+rich people it must be true it's just that if we ever get to the point where we can
+
+01:25:55.680 --> 01:26:01.440
+read right into a person's brain experiences yeah no one's going to live in a little bit anymore
+
+01:26:01.440 --> 01:26:05.680
+well the other aspect is you know the the gray reset the the world economic form right you'll
+
+01:26:05.680 --> 01:26:09.920
+own nothing you'll have no privacy but you'll be happy i mean that that dates back to the you
+
+01:26:09.920 --> 01:26:15.760
+know 1960s when you had Aldous Huxley saying basically they'll put you in a position where you ought
+
+01:26:15.760 --> 01:26:20.080
+not be happy but you'll be made happy when they literally are releasing dopamine so you're sitting
+
+01:26:20.080 --> 01:26:23.520
+there on like a and you know this is like the 1960s version but you're sitting there on an
+
+01:26:23.520 --> 01:26:26.960
+assembly line you should be like miserable like god this is awful but instead you're like this
+
+01:26:26.960 --> 01:26:30.960
+is the best thing i've ever this is the most fun i've ever had is putting together these car parts
+
+01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:35.200
+because they're literally activating the pleasure center of your brain as you're doing this this
+
+01:26:35.200 --> 01:26:39.040
+do you guys uh you guys know what uh you know you know the story of the monkey's paw right
+
+01:26:39.920 --> 01:26:43.680
+yes the monkey's paw it gives you three wishes but it twists your wishes in awful ways
+
+01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:48.880
+and or or there's just like needful things this trope of be careful what you wish for has been
+
+01:26:49.440 --> 01:26:54.080
+done for a long time i remember when i was little i can't remember what what movie we were watching
+
+01:26:54.080 --> 01:26:57.920
+i was watching with my family and it's like somebody gets a monkey's paw whatever and then
+
+01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:03.600
+they're like i wish for a million dollars and then all of a sudden like the person's wife walks out
+
+01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:08.160
+to pick up a newspaper it's hit by a car killing her instantly and then the you know the guy in the
+
+01:27:08.160 --> 01:27:12.400
+car is like oh no i'll give you a million dollars settlement or whatever like he or an insurance
+
+01:27:12.400 --> 01:27:16.640
+payout they're like you're being awarded a million dollars so that the wish is twisted my dad was
+
+01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:20.000
+always like you know you know how you beat the monkey's paw you wish for happiness
+
+01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:26.640
+wish that you were happy and what could it do to twist it and i was like it'll put you in a mental
+
+01:27:26.640 --> 01:27:31.200
+institution in a straight jacket banger head on the wall and go put your happy and i'm like
+
+01:27:31.200 --> 01:27:36.880
+that's an interesting way of viewing happiness is that it's technically the truth yeah there's a
+
+01:27:36.880 --> 01:27:41.360
+happiness they'll give you there's a truck palinic uh short story that's kind of like that where
+
+01:27:41.360 --> 01:27:45.920
+it's this phenomenon where uh all these kids in high school realize that if you like electrocute
+
+01:27:45.920 --> 01:27:49.760
+yourself you basically like lobotomize yourself and so it's like a trend of kids like
+
+01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:54.160
+electrocuting themselves and lobotomizing themselves because they'd rather be happy and
+
+01:27:54.160 --> 01:27:58.960
+mentally incapacitated than have to deal with the stresses of uh of real life yeah people are
+
+01:27:58.960 --> 01:28:05.280
+going to be like in the real world i work at uh uh you know i i work a menial job but when i go home
+
+01:28:05.280 --> 01:28:10.640
+to my pot and plug in man i host this big i do think that that's what facebook would like you
+
+01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:16.080
+to think meta is going to be i think that that's what a lot of gaming services would like kids to
+
+01:28:16.080 --> 01:28:23.360
+think of as for tonight their avatars as themselves i think that's what they want and so i think it's
+
+01:28:23.360 --> 01:28:28.000
+very interesting that tim pool's talking about it in reference to elan musk without any criticism
+
+01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:37.760
+for it without any talk of sovereignty or freedom or sacredness it's very very very curious isn't it
+
+01:28:38.080 --> 01:28:45.120
+but it shouldn't be really because this is exactly how the control system works and we're going to watch
+
+01:28:45.920 --> 01:28:51.520
+a few other videos as we go forward and a few other people like tim pool and we're going to see how
+
+01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:59.760
+this narrative a futurist narrative a transhuman narrative a a pandemic narrative has been layered
+
+01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:07.760
+down through the internet where this guy and another guy will argue about what Brett Weinstein
+
+01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:14.960
+said to sam heris and one will take one side one will take the other side and so if tim gets a
+
+01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:20.560
+million and a half views and sam cedar gets a million and a half views and Brett Weinstein
+
+01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:27.520
+gets a million and a half views you start to see how the whole narrative has been curated because
+
+01:29:27.600 --> 01:29:35.120
+eventually if the algorithm is putting him and Brett and z dog into your feed and into your
+
+01:29:35.120 --> 01:29:39.920
+algorithm eventually you're going to stumble on one of these two arguing about the other two
+
+01:29:41.040 --> 01:29:47.200
+and then you're going to be sort of enticed to take the illusion of consensus on the natural
+
+01:29:47.200 --> 01:29:52.800
+side or the illusion of consensus on the lab leak side the illusion of the consensus of the vaccine
+
+01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:58.400
+workside the illusion of the consensus that what something is wrong
+
+01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:06.800
+you see the idea is to confuse you into thinking that there is something to figure out
+
+01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:14.800
+and the only thing to figure out is is that we we have to united united non compliance that's
+
+01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:19.760
+how we get out it's not just some things it's all the things
+
+01:30:22.480 --> 01:30:29.200
+it's all the things it's all the things it's controlled by the algorithm
+
+01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:35.040
+and there isn't a lot we can do about that algorithm and the algorithm works in much more
+
+01:30:35.760 --> 01:30:38.480
+diabolical ways than most people want to imagine
+
+01:30:42.320 --> 01:30:44.880
+because the algorithm works in such a way
+
+01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:56.640
+that the algorithm works in such a way that there's not only can views be inflated
+
+01:30:58.480 --> 01:31:01.840
+so that people who aren't being watched look like they're being watched
+
+01:31:02.480 --> 01:31:12.480
+but people whose videos are attempted to be shared can be censored and what is the word
+
+01:31:12.480 --> 01:31:19.600
+now they're using all the time I don't know throttled and all of this goes on
+
+01:31:21.200 --> 01:31:25.760
+but it's impossible for us to know how far our videos are getting out how far our reach is
+
+01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:28.160
+even if we know what our follower count is we don't know
+
+01:31:28.880 --> 01:31:36.160
+and we don't know how many rooms of people are full of people doing stuff to try and throw
+
+01:31:36.160 --> 01:31:40.800
+more nonsense on the fire like he used to tonic house music
+
+01:31:42.960 --> 01:31:48.480
+like I don't know scooby doo videos that have nothing to do with me from followers that I've
+
+01:31:48.480 --> 01:31:52.880
+they're people that are not following me are now making scooby doo videos about the unmasking
+
+01:31:52.880 --> 01:32:02.160
+of berry can and fauci so we have a lot of work to do to try and explain to everybody how
+
+01:32:02.160 --> 01:32:08.160
+the who declared a dangerous novel virus that was detectable by a non-specific PCR test
+
+01:32:09.200 --> 01:32:14.800
+we have a lot of explaining to do for people to understand that what you see in this graph here
+
+01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:22.480
+is not what everybody thinks it is that this is mostly a testing artifact and that this
+
+01:32:22.480 --> 01:32:28.240
+extra death that's up here visible in the all-cause mortality rate is extra death that is caused by
+
+01:32:28.240 --> 01:32:34.480
+protocols by not resuscitating people by not giving them the proper treatment for secondary
+
+01:32:34.480 --> 01:32:42.240
+pneumonia etc etc etc etc and then it is the damage caused by the shot whatever that damage is
+
+01:32:44.240 --> 01:32:48.560
+there could have been an infectious clone that's very likely an infectious clone has been used to
+
+01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:53.440
+see more than one sequence around the world I don't know it's a crime let's figure it out
+
+01:32:54.240 --> 01:32:58.960
+but there's no question that they've had a plan to invert our rights to permissions for a very
+
+01:32:58.960 --> 01:33:05.840
+long time and it's an international global thing that's the reason why the five ice
+
+01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:12.960
+countries were so on board why the EU countries were so that lady from Germany who was the head of
+
+01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:24.400
+the EU was so on point because this is the last chance they have to invert this and take all of
+
+01:33:24.400 --> 01:33:28.800
+our data because they're selling it just like they're selling that idea that they get the data
+
+01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:34.080
+for the brain then they'll be able to read your mind they have been selling this idea that if
+
+01:33:34.080 --> 01:33:42.720
+they could get the genetic data Craig Venter, Venter, Joshua Lederberg all these guys have been
+
+01:33:42.800 --> 01:33:46.240
+saying it for so long that this is the way we're going to crack the code
+
+01:33:48.560 --> 01:33:52.160
+and so now you have to understand that in America and around the world there's this
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+biology and then there's also all the money that can be made from the biology all the control that
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+can be created through the biology and all of the intellectual property on which that biology is
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+enforced and it's that shift in the intellectual property space that Mark Koolack of usutonic
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+live recently identified that we are really getting all of our ducks in a row now
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+to see if we can really start to in broad strokes try to characterize the kinds of waves of change
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+that are happening in the background and the kinds of waves of change which actually may be
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+influencing the behavior of the people on the playing board and why somebody like David Martin
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+for example would be talking all kinds and nonsense about certain patents without teaching
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+you about a whole other aspect of patent law and biological patent law in particular with
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+regard to antibodies and so it's going to take a while yet it's going to take a while to sort
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+all this out but we're going to do it and in the meantime I'll be at Giga on biological which is a
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+let me see which is a kind of a Twitter substitute soapbox thing I get those support asks off of
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+01:35:12.960 --> 01:35:18.640
+there quickly you can see that giga ohm dot bio there oops there I was right here giga ohm
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+01:35:18.640 --> 01:35:23.120
+dot bio you could also go to giga ohm biological dot com and then find the soapbox link at the
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+top and that will get you there as well um I'm pretty busy with my day job now so I'm not posting
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+there a lot I'm also not posting on Twitter very often but that's how it is instead I'm trying
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+to focus on being here every single night as often as possible and I do believe that this is
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+night number 20 in a row and so as the streak gets longer it's going to be harder and harder
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+and more painful to break so hopefully that will keep me on thank you very much for joining me
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+this has been giga ohm biological high resistance low noise information where you're proud to
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+be a biologist inter muscular injection is not a means of immunization you want to say it a
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+01:36:08.480 --> 01:36:16.960
+little simpler you can say the transfection transfection is not immunization stop all
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+transfections and humans because they are trying to get rid of the control group
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+01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:30.720
+shout out to my friend uh Emily Kaplan and uh and and and and and Greg Glassman of uh
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+broken science we haven't watched a video broken science yet so we're gonna get that on the
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+01:36:38.240 --> 01:36:43.680
+study hall this really soon um follow them they've been putting out a lot of really great short
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+content um if some might help you communicate some of these ideas to your family as well
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+01:36:50.400 --> 01:36:56.160
+um and don't forget that this video still I think is one of the best ways to share my work
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+01:36:56.160 --> 01:37:00.880
+with people who don't know me at all um and if you haven't seen it please watch it and share it
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+I'm pretty proud of the way I was able to explain the immune system with a little picture
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+so if you haven't seen the part where I'm drawing and talking at broad strokes about the immune
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+system and how it works I really highly suggest it thanks very much guys and I'll see you again tomorrow
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+hundred viewers at the end thanks guys thanks a lot
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+you
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+David has had to defer and J.J. Kooey is jumping into the breach. Welcome to today's discussion.
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+freedom and health. Stephen has stood up against government and power over the years and has been
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+a whistleblower and activist. His medical specialty is radiology. We comprise lots of professions
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+into the chat if you're able to join. We listened to J.J. Kooey for as long as he's thought he's
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+going to speak a short time and then we're going to have plenty of Q&A and Stephen
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+anything that may offend another. We come with an attitude and perspective of love not fear. Fear
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+is the opposite of love. Fear squashes you, love on the other hand expands you and in my show last
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+week I talked about fear porn just to hold those two words in your head. Governments are love it
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+when you are full of fear. You come to this place to remind yourself to let go of the fear.
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+be watching this by recording. Welcome and now welcome again JJ Kubi who has presented twice to
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+us before this is his third time and please go back and look at the recordings of his presentations.
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+They are excellent, they are provocative, they are meaningful and thank you JJ for jumping into
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+the last moment to replace Dr David Martin and thank you Stephen Frost again for all creating
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+this agreement for organising JJ. Over to you JJ you have screen sharing rights what we're in
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+your hands. Thank you very much anybody who's watching now on the zoom if you don't already see me as
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+the big screen and only the big screen then go up to the right hand corner of your screen click
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+on view and change it to speaker view instead of gallery because I'm going to control my own
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+screen and so it will never override that so you need to change to that view and then you'll see me
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+big and that means if you see that then you should also see me now down here in the corner
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+and if that's working fine then everything should be good so I first of all I want to
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+compliment you guys for being here every week multiple times sometimes for the last three years
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+because we're going to require a certain level of endurance for us to make it across the finish
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+line in the coming years and I say coming years because I'm quite certain that that's how long
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+this battle is going to go. We can't take the bait on TV and social media which keeps us focused
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+on the ground in front of us. I'm starting to really understand that the game is a longer game
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+than this year or next year and in order for us to get ahead of this game we're going to have
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+to start thinking a little bit farther ahead than the coming six months and so don't take the bait
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+don't pay attention to the things that they're throwing in front of you even if it's google fold
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+and they claim that they've figured out how they can fold all the proteins in the universe
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+and they've made a little video like the one I'm playing here to trick you into the believing
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+that. So I've been pitching for a while that essentially the psychological operation of the
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+pandemic was one way in which they used a series of censorship and very dramatic pronouncements that
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+were all uniform across the globe in order to trick us into believing that there was a mystery
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+to solve and that that mystery involved a virus that circulated the globe for more than three years
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+that that virus was very different and novel from any other previous virus and that that
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+meant it was likely that it wasn't natural and the mystery has led us the solving of this mystery
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+has essentially tricked the left and the right into believing that the solution to this mystery
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+is the truth and so whether you end up believing that it's probably natural or it's probably a
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+lab leak or that pandemics are something that we need to fear in the future is something that you
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+won't question so I kind of said that a little awkwardly but if you come to the conclusion that
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+it was a natural virus or you come to the conclusion that it was a lab leak you are still coming to
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+the conclusion that we must prepare for the next one and that as our wonderful technology
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+continues to grow and expand the ease with which anyone who wants to be a creep can create a pandemic
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+virus will become ever more accessible to people working in their garage and that is essentially
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+what they would like the average tv viewer to have come to in the last three years and this trick
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+has been magical because this trick has been pulled off by a number of different people
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+and I'm not necessarily accusing anyone on the screen here in particular but I'm just
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+trying to use it as an illustration for how a series or a group of people that could change
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+the way that we think about respiratory disease that could change the way we think about all
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+cause mortality that could change the way we think about our immune response to disease
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+and change the way that we think about vaccination or permanently solidify how we think about it
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+could essentially allow to happen by just telling people that there's a novel virus and we have no
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+idea what to do although it looks like pneumonia it's not treatable in the normal way because this
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+is a novel virus and we have no idea what to do and so with the very standard you know rush to rush
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+to conclusions and make sure that there's legal protection and there's also financial
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+incentives they were able to use medazalam in the UK remdesivir in the united states a drug that
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+has never proven therapeutic for anything and they were able to make it the standard of care
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+in the united states for more than a year they were able to ventilate people to stop spread
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+they told paramedics in New York City not to resuscitate heart attack victims
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+because resuscitation might cause the spread of the disease and so these things are all coming out
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+now three years later when we finally try to look at the death count in New York City and we find a
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+four-week bomb of 20,000 excess deaths and then it goes right back to baseline and never goes up
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+again and now that we have this data and we point out to people they just deny it it doesn't matter
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+Jessica Hawkins data doesn't matter and now we're starting to see how this was done it was best
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+described by Noam Chomsky and I'm sorry I said this last time but again I'm not prepared so
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+the spectrum of debate has been limited by this this cartoon mystery that has been presented to us
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+on TV and social media thrown into movies years before the pandemic so that we were primed and
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+ready to go we were already knowing that viruses come out of bat caves we were already told that
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+it can be accessed in laboratories with animal passage or with cell culture and we've more recently
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+been told that we can stitch them together and this has always been the plan it has always been
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+the plan to lie to us about this potential and then come out with a big global drama
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+in order to solidify it as the new mythology under which we would be governed it is the only way
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+that you could think about governing a globe you can't govern a globe with different nations
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+and different languages and different religions and different cultures different music unless they
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+have one unifying mythology and this is that unifying mythology that there are gain of function
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+viruses that RNA can be endowed with the ability to travel from person to person with high fidelity
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+for three years through millions of people and they've convinced us with all of these people
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+all of these people are on narrative and it's become my life's mission to understand
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+who was briefed on this silly narrative and I've been able to figure it out based on what they
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+don't talk about almost no one talks about how how central it was to 2020 and 2021 that PCR was
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+taken seriously we don't even talk about it anymore but this was a gigantic fraud and how many of
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+our dissident leaders are talking about it but they should start with it they should start with it
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+at every talk but they don't masking lockdown the fact that we now have data that shows that there
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+was no spread in New York City the death certificate frauds that were documented in so many different
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+states nobody seems to know but me the protocol do not resuscitate frauds that were
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+were done in New York City for that month no one is still talking about it the way that they
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+ventilated the way and how they treated people with remdesivir and who's responsible for that
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+we're not talking about it and who's not talking about it almost everybody in the red triangle
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+I'm not picking on people not calling people bad guys but you can go through their social
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+media with a objective electronic comb and you can just query how often do they talk about
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+remdesivir and when they do what do they say who do they talk about it with have they ever
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+mentioned medazalam in the UK no american ever does so if you start to really look at it my
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+friends they start to reveal themselves because they don't actually tell the truth
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+they tell this story about a novel virus that is responsible for the majority of the damage
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+and the majority of the crazy behavior we had to make these decisions because of the virus
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+and none of these people in this red triangle for all practical purposes do not question the
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+existence of the virus and i'm not saying that there isn't a virus but i am saying that there
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+isn't something that was released at a point in rulon and then traveled around the world rapidly
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+for three years changing variant after variant after variant that is definitely a mythology
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+and in fact anybody that's questioned the protocols first or the spread or the variants
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+is now in this yellow zone where you can't talk to them anymore they're irrelevant
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+and so i figured out a way to really piss them off which is to save this stuff in a more correct
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+way and so i believe this is very close but i've got to caveat it a little bit because some people
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+don't really like what i'm saying whoops what i'm saying here
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+but transfection is not immunization that's pretty simple but intramuscular injection of any
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+combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb is something i've
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+been saying more recently and it needs a little bit of a caveat if your goal is to augment the
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+immune system so that the mucosal layer of the lungs and the gut respond in a positive way so
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+that you are immune to a disease that replicates there then immunizing intramuscularly is dumb
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+if there are viruses that maintain some kind of you know serum and some kind of concentration
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+in the serum and therefore you need antibodies there that you got to explain it to me but for now
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+today i want to end my talk with a little picture that i'll draw where i try to explain the immune
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+system very simply more importantly in a way that you yourself can explain it to your friends and
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+family and then explain why intramuscular injection might not be all it's cracked up to be and certainly
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+transfection is not all it's cracked up to be so this is my latest sort of people map everybody in
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+yellow is somebody who's still following the faith of the natural or the novel virus that we
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+had to do something in the MRI probably saved people and uh the virus will come again the red
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+people are just people that have blocked me and made me sure that they're probably not good players
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+and the green are people who's consistency with pursuit of the truth has impressed me
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+enough so that i i think they're their their track record is pretty consistent i'm not this
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+is not an exhaustive list this is my own personal experience so one that if you don't know who this
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+is jessica hockett should speak for your group at some point she is a teacher of teachers working
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+and living in the new york city area i believe her in chicago or yeah chicago she lives in but
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+she analyzed the data from new york city and compared it to chicago and found some incredible
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+anomalies which i think are some of the more important discoveries in the american data since
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+the start of the pandemic and really underscore the illusion that was created and specifically
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+with new york i'm sure you guys all know who nick hudson is he said some of the smartest stuff
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+i mean he's not always a hundred percent because he's he's trying very hard to keep as many
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+possibility doors open even when i think that they're closed but that doesn't make him bad
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+what i think has been so wonderful about him is because he has so succinctly articulated the
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+idea that when somebody presents you with a global problem that requires global solutions you know
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+it's bs and that single ideological contribution to our movement has been spectacular because i
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+think it sums up about 80 percent of what the messaging needs to be going forward to the people
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+who are way off the reservation and we need to save
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+of course you know denny way uh jj we have had nick present to us okay great he's fantastic i don't
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+know if you've had denny rancor but he's also denny is just fantastic and he's done some of the analysis
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+of course that's really breaking this wide open now one of the things you might not be so aware of
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+is this recent development and my work and the work of marqulak we have not really discovered but
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+kind of uncovered some connections between these people in the beginning of the pandemic which would
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+seem to suggest that it wouldn't be ridiculous for them to have coordinated their messaging from
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+the very beginning um there are several examples of robert malone doing live streams when he first
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+came public in august of 2021 with paul cotrell um paul cotrell was the first person that i ever
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+live stream with in 2020 and in 2020 i had already uncovered him as fraud um calling himself a
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+doctor but he's actually uh he actually did a phd in finance and he was doing a biology degree
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+somewhere but he definitely wasn't a doctor and he actually said believe it or not in february of
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+2020 that he was streaming a live phone call from taiwan where this woman was describing a situation
+
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+in taiwan that was so dire and that the only thing that was working was a drug called remdesivir
+
+17:12.800 --> 17:18.400
+and she couldn't pronounce it but paul could now what makes it real curious about paul
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+17:19.280 --> 17:25.120
+is that during every stream that i ever did with him and to me um uh in april of march in april of
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+may of 2020 he was a proponent of it being a worst case scenario worst case scenario in
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+17:33.680 --> 17:38.880
+new york city and arguing that he could see the cooler trucks outside of his
+
+17:39.520 --> 17:45.600
+apartment so it didn't matter what jay cooey was saying i can see the reality in new york city
+
+17:46.400 --> 17:53.280
+now interestingly george web's favorite source of biology since the beginning of the pandemic is
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+17:53.280 --> 18:00.480
+none other than paul cotrell and to this day george web will defend paul cotrell as one of the heroes
+
+18:00.480 --> 18:07.920
+of the biology now at the same time consider the fact that robert melon and george vunden ball
+
+18:07.920 --> 18:13.280
+she knew each other from a professional relationship in two thousand seven and eight when they both
+
+18:13.280 --> 18:19.040
+worked for salve pharmaceuticals on the flu back seat which in two thousand eleven mark
+
+18:19.600 --> 18:24.800
+robert melon was speaking about uh in relation to fill and finish technologies
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+18:25.680 --> 18:32.160
+and also presenting to the hoo directly so multiple governments then so at the start of the pandemic
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+18:33.120 --> 18:39.280
+paul cotrell or sorry at the start of robert melon's emergence on to the public scene he had he
+
+18:39.280 --> 18:45.840
+streamed with paul cotrell he had already worked with here at vunden ball at salve so he mentions
+
+18:45.840 --> 18:50.880
+here at vunden ball she is one of the authorities almost immediately in his live streams and now
+
+18:50.960 --> 18:58.160
+he's saying that that george web over here is one of his worst enemies on the internet but
+
+18:59.280 --> 19:05.360
+usefully enough he links to george web's work and he links to george web's appearance on 60 minutes
+
+19:06.480 --> 19:12.080
+the same show that had you know peter day sack on a couple times and has had jamie mezel on a
+
+19:12.080 --> 19:18.080
+couple times talking about the lab leak so what i think we're starting to see here is that some
+
+19:18.080 --> 19:24.960
+of the people that we're pretending to be part of us are actually this fifth generation warfare
+
+19:25.680 --> 19:32.880
+kind of thing that have been grooming us to solve the lab leak forget about the protocols
+
+19:33.760 --> 19:38.720
+worry about gain a function and give up on figuring out who's responsible for this
+
+19:40.880 --> 19:45.360
+i think one of the reasons why you should be skeptical of karat vunden motion's recent position
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+19:45.360 --> 19:47.920
+is that his position relies on the idea that the
+
+19:48.320 --> 19:53.600
+transfection faithfully augmented the immune system it's just that it augmented the immune
+
+19:53.600 --> 19:59.760
+system in a way that has pushed the virus in a particular direction and that is a spectacular
+
+20:00.640 --> 20:11.040
+it's a spectacular mythology where the virus the virus can be pushed around by a transfection
+
+20:11.040 --> 20:16.640
+in many people so what a wonderful they get he gets you to accept the power of transfection
+
+20:17.280 --> 20:23.760
+the the idea that viruses can transmit around the world all in one alternative theory
+
+20:27.920 --> 20:32.640
+and so i've been trying to break this down from the biological perspective but i think
+
+20:33.280 --> 20:37.280
+a really good illustration of what has occurred here sorry i got to go back
+
+20:38.080 --> 20:43.520
+and if you have seen this already i apologize but this is something that's really hit home
+
+20:44.320 --> 20:48.640
+um with people on my stream and so i thought i'd drop it in here and then i'll stop i think
+
+20:49.360 --> 20:59.280
+um there is an illusion of consensus that is created when you when you censor all of the people
+
+20:59.840 --> 21:06.960
+who you are speaking questionable or alternative views and you amplify all the people who are
+
+21:07.040 --> 21:10.400
+hyper on the same thing you know like build back better or whatever it's a horrible
+
+21:10.400 --> 21:17.600
+example but it's a good example and my argument is is that this is so complicated
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+21:18.320 --> 21:26.080
+that they actually planned to create an illusion of consensus around the argument
+
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+of a lab leak or a natural virus so much so that they have coordinated both sides
+
+21:33.360 --> 21:38.880
+with the heminate you know i don't know how to say that word but very vigorous defenders of
+
+21:38.880 --> 21:45.200
+the natural virus very vigorous defenders of the lab leak almost ridiculous right
+
+21:45.760 --> 21:50.560
+but that's the point because they want you to think that this debate and this consensus
+
+21:51.120 --> 21:57.360
+that this is the thing to argue about will lead you to think that well how can i deny it it's very
+
+21:57.440 --> 22:03.440
+much like an ash conformity experiment where so many people agree that this is the thing to
+
+22:03.440 --> 22:08.480
+figure out they must be the thing to figure out and once you jump on board you're done
+
+22:09.200 --> 22:13.600
+where's the illusion of consensus best illustrated is in a sitcom
+
+22:13.680 --> 22:23.600
+maybe you'll recall the the soup nazi maybe i'm turkey chili
+
+22:27.600 --> 22:31.600
+medium crab best this is one of the legendary episodes of Seinfeld
+
+22:32.960 --> 22:38.080
+where this guy's a real mean soup soup monger i didn't get any bread just forget it but it go
+
+22:38.400 --> 22:45.200
+oh excuse me i think you forgot my bread bread two dollars extra
+
+22:46.240 --> 22:51.200
+and now the illusion of consensus you want bread is audible three dollars
+
+22:53.520 --> 22:54.320
+nothing for you
+
+22:56.960 --> 23:00.160
+let me try it again and remove the illusion of consensus
+
+23:00.160 --> 23:11.760
+medium turkey chili medium crab best
+
+23:17.840 --> 23:23.600
+and so let me pause it to you get any bread just forget it let it go without the laughter
+
+23:24.720 --> 23:28.240
+it's not quite as funny i think you forgot my bread bread two dollars extra
+
+23:28.960 --> 23:34.240
+two dollars everyone in front of me got free bread you want bread yes please three dollars
+
+23:36.560 --> 23:37.360
+nothing for you
+
+23:39.920 --> 23:43.600
+now what does this say to you i don't know what it says to you but what it says to me
+
+23:44.800 --> 23:49.840
+is that intelligence agencies are the perfect medium through which to create
+
+23:49.840 --> 23:56.160
+the illusion of consensus on social media that there is a laboratory leak that there's a
+
+23:56.240 --> 23:59.920
+batcave virus that they're lying about it that those emails are weird
+
+23:59.920 --> 24:05.360
+that those people aren't acting correct rann paul and tony fauci fought live on tv
+
+24:05.360 --> 24:12.160
+it must be something significant the cdc leaked uh leaked a slide deck that says the delta
+
+24:12.160 --> 24:16.720
+is breaking through the vaccine and that even people who were previously infected are getting
+
+24:16.720 --> 24:23.440
+infected with delta oh my gosh the cdc was keeping this from us oh my goodness we found a
+
+24:23.600 --> 24:31.920
+d-o-d leaked lab sorry grant proposal from equal health alliance and they were going to insert
+
+24:31.920 --> 24:37.680
+fear and cleavage sites in coronaviruses and spray them into batcaves and this was in 2017
+
+24:38.320 --> 24:42.880
+so they probably did it and then that caused the pandemic we solved it
+
+24:44.560 --> 24:50.000
+and it sounds ridiculous but that's actually where we are the diffuse proposal was leaked
+
+24:50.800 --> 24:56.800
+the cdc did leak a slide deck about delta there was a slide deck leaked from the uk
+
+24:57.760 --> 25:02.080
+i don't know what that one's called the mhra or something like that also about one of the variants
+
+25:03.280 --> 25:09.440
+and they've been doing this repeatedly with the idea of ceding the narrative with social media
+
+25:09.440 --> 25:16.880
+personalities and on every you can't underestimate how many of these people are gaining followers
+
+25:16.880 --> 25:23.520
+fame comfort a lucrative sub stack simply because they agreed to push one thing
+
+25:24.480 --> 25:32.160
+or to not question the novelty of the virus or the necessity of doing something or the fact that
+
+25:32.160 --> 25:38.240
+it could come again if you don't question those three things everybody's trapped in this mythology
+
+25:38.240 --> 25:45.760
+forever and misleading children about this this is us telling them a new story about Santa Claus
+
+25:45.760 --> 25:50.080
+that is the reason instead of giving presents every year is the reason why they're going to
+
+25:50.080 --> 25:58.240
+need an electronic chip in their skin and so the tv scenarios are lab leak or batcave virus and
+
+25:58.240 --> 26:05.200
+the way to explain this is that in 2008 the earth was free of pathogen and then in 2019
+
+26:05.200 --> 26:12.320
+something was leaked or released or whatever and then it by itself went around the world
+
+26:13.040 --> 26:21.840
+RNA to RNA to RNA to RNA and that's where the biology breaks down RNA molecules can't do that
+
+26:23.360 --> 26:29.200
+and if you just say it that simple you don't need to say there are no RNA viruses you don't have to
+
+26:29.200 --> 26:37.280
+get into a debate about what diseases are real and what diseases aren't you just have to say that
+
+26:37.360 --> 26:43.120
+that's not how RNA works there might be local outbreaks of an infectious RNA I guess that's
+
+26:43.120 --> 26:52.240
+probably possible I don't know but I do know that if you put a thousand identical RNAs in a place
+
+26:52.240 --> 26:57.760
+in Wuhan and then put them on the street no matter how perfect they were they would not be able to
+
+26:57.760 --> 27:02.560
+jump from person to person with high fidelity all the way until 2024 and we could still call it the
+
+27:02.560 --> 27:10.640
+same thing no it's not all works and so a conflated background signal is the best way to think about
+
+27:10.640 --> 27:16.160
+it because again we have no data from before 2020 about whether or not anybody would test
+
+27:16.160 --> 27:24.560
+positive with any of these PCR tests none none whatsoever it is very similar to starting to measure
+
+27:25.520 --> 27:32.400
+the spread of automobiles around the world and saying there were no automobiles in 2019 and
+
+27:32.400 --> 27:40.880
+now there's this crazy spread of automobiles and you should look and if you I'm trying to think of
+
+27:40.880 --> 27:49.760
+a good analogy here but if you if you go into your garage or go outside of your house and you find
+
+27:49.760 --> 27:58.320
+something with four wheels you might already have an automobile and so now the premise there is is
+
+27:58.320 --> 28:03.840
+that the only way you would accept that as evidence of spread of automobiles in America
+
+28:03.840 --> 28:10.560
+is if you accept a premise that they weren't there yesterday holy crap we have two automobiles
+
+28:10.560 --> 28:16.720
+they were here spreading everyone the neighbors have automobiles I can see them holy cow
+
+28:18.000 --> 28:25.520
+and so the real biological shell game here is that before 2020 they had not a little data they had
+
+28:25.600 --> 28:33.440
+zero data zero nobody's sequencing coronaviruses and people nobody's mass testing for PCR
+
+28:34.160 --> 28:40.320
+nobody ever rolled out one of these these products before and if you listen to somebody like
+
+28:42.240 --> 28:48.400
+Michael Yieton explained it there's no way to to have products like this made and mass this quickly
+
+28:48.400 --> 28:52.560
+with the quality control that would be necessary for them to be reliable diagnostics of anything
+
+28:53.520 --> 28:56.000
+it's just absurd but we accepted it all
+
+28:58.560 --> 29:03.840
+and so the point here is to remember that it doesn't matter whether it's an endemic background
+
+29:03.840 --> 29:08.880
+coronavirus the protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine it doesn't matter if it was an
+
+29:08.880 --> 29:16.640
+infectious clone if you want to talk about that a little bit um the very quick summary for that
+
+29:16.720 --> 29:24.240
+in case you forgot is that DNA is quite high fidelity copying RNA is not and so that's the same
+
+29:24.240 --> 29:28.400
+reason why an RNA virus cannot go around the world with high fidelity for three and a half years
+
+29:28.400 --> 29:37.840
+because that's not how RNA works but RNA virology is based on the shortcut or the the cheat where
+
+29:37.840 --> 29:44.080
+you can take an RNA sequence that you're able to find in the wild you can synthetically create a
+
+29:44.080 --> 29:50.480
+DNA copy of that and then you can use a bacterial culture to make lots of copies of that DNA because
+
+29:50.480 --> 29:57.440
+DNA is quite high fidelity to copy meaning that you can make lots of copies of the same thing
+
+29:57.440 --> 30:03.600
+and they're pretty close to the same for millions and millions of copies then you can use an enzyme
+
+30:04.320 --> 30:12.000
+to change that huge collection of DNA molecules that are all identical to a pretty homogenous
+
+30:12.560 --> 30:20.800
+set of RNA and now that's a pure RNA clone of the original RNA sequence that you identified in the
+
+30:20.800 --> 30:28.720
+bat but in a purity and in a quantity that you would never be able to prepare by any natural means
+
+30:28.720 --> 30:36.160
+you know culturing into the dish or sampling lots of bats because again RNA doesn't copy itself
+
+30:36.240 --> 30:42.000
+high fidelity no matter which way and where it grows but if you make a clone of it in DNA and
+
+30:42.000 --> 30:46.160
+then you make a lot of that DNA then you can make a lot of that RNA and then you have a lot more
+
+30:46.160 --> 30:54.880
+than whatever existed nature and that that could be released in Wuhan in Iran and in America
+
+30:55.680 --> 31:02.960
+and anywhere that was released those people would test very PCR positive right on for that sequence
+
+31:02.960 --> 31:09.040
+and if you were able to create enough of it you would be able to sequence the whole thing so
+
+31:10.240 --> 31:14.960
+let me explain one thing about clones because I came up with this explanation earlier today on
+
+31:14.960 --> 31:23.360
+another interview and it'll be fun to put that in here so if you're infected I've told you this
+
+31:23.360 --> 31:31.680
+before if you're infected with a virus and and it's a it's a regular natural RNA coronavirus then
+
+31:31.680 --> 31:36.480
+as Robert Malone and others have explained a vast majority of the infectious particles that
+
+31:36.480 --> 31:42.480
+you inhale and that are produced from the infection are actually non-infectious particles and that's
+
+31:42.480 --> 31:47.840
+because the RNA copying is imperfect and the packaging is imperfect and the list is very long
+
+31:47.840 --> 31:55.040
+of all the things that are imperfect so we've known that there is an infectious to non-infectious
+
+31:55.040 --> 32:03.680
+particle ratio for all viruses and so for coronaviruses it might be 50 to 1 it might be 20 to 1 it
+
+32:03.680 --> 32:10.160
+might be 100 to 1 it might be 1000 to 1 nobody's really endeavored to measure it but let's just
+
+32:10.160 --> 32:18.480
+say it's 10 to 1 let's say that for every infectious particle that you inhale and it starts to replicate
+
+32:18.480 --> 32:25.760
+it will make nine non-infectious particles for every one infectious particle that's a pretty
+
+32:25.760 --> 32:31.600
+low ratio because actually a lot of viruses are thought to be between 20 and 50 so this is just
+
+32:31.600 --> 32:39.440
+one in 10 okay so I'm going to draw that picture with two squares and those are two different lungs
+
+32:39.440 --> 32:46.800
+so we're going to do two different infections okay so the first lung infection is one infectious
+
+32:46.800 --> 32:54.640
+particle is going to infect that lung okay and it's going to replicate I know we got to do we got
+
+32:54.640 --> 33:00.320
+to do we got to do through we got to do a total of 10 I guess that's that's how this works so we're
+
+33:00.320 --> 33:09.280
+going to infect it and so the 10 viral particles that get made in the first round of replication
+
+33:09.360 --> 33:18.880
+from this one is one and then one two three four five six seven eight nine two and these are all
+
+33:18.880 --> 33:28.080
+infectious or non-infectious particles and then you get one that's a good one okay if you took this
+
+33:28.080 --> 33:35.200
+and then this gets coughed out right then we're coughing out one infectious particle and many
+
+33:35.200 --> 33:44.000
+non-infectious particles you see so the odds are not great that this coronavirus is going to
+
+33:44.000 --> 33:49.680
+transmit it in fact that's the way that they explain coronavirus transmissions highly
+
+33:52.560 --> 33:57.520
+how do you say it unreliable transmission is exactly because of this this is what they would
+
+33:57.520 --> 34:02.240
+have told you before the pandemic now they don't say it at all but you can find papers discussing
+
+34:02.240 --> 34:08.880
+this idea that it's that it's this non-infectious to infectious particle ratio that makes the
+
+34:08.880 --> 34:15.120
+reliability of coronavirus infection low and then it's the variability in the copying of the RNA
+
+34:15.120 --> 34:21.040
+that makes each infection different from the last one and the RNA changes very rapidly in the
+
+34:21.040 --> 34:28.640
+coronavirus sequence and so how we build immunity to coronaviruses is usually through tolerance
+
+34:28.720 --> 34:33.920
+you try to ignore them because they're not really doing very much because most of the
+
+34:33.920 --> 34:39.200
+particles they make are garbage do you see now what I want you to think about very carefully
+
+34:39.840 --> 34:47.520
+is what happens when you get infected with a clone because when you get infected with a clone
+
+34:47.520 --> 34:54.240
+you're getting infected with pure RNA pure RNA meaning that if they are packaged correctly or
+
+34:54.240 --> 34:57.680
+it's done correctly then when you get infected you get 10
+
+34:59.760 --> 35:06.880
+infectious particles that would get made now sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry I just said that
+
+35:06.880 --> 35:12.560
+wrong number you screw this up darn it darn it darn it darn it so the point is is that in this
+
+35:12.560 --> 35:17.200
+in this first illustration where we're being infected by a cough right so this is
+
+35:18.640 --> 35:23.760
+this is somebody else transmitting infectious and non-infectious particles and then it replicates
+
+35:23.760 --> 35:29.120
+and then we cough if you get sorry I screwed that up if you get infected with a clone
+
+35:30.320 --> 35:34.960
+you are being you are inhaling 10 infectious particles
+
+35:36.560 --> 35:44.400
+not not nine non-infectious and one infectious particle you're inhaling 10 infectious particles
+
+35:44.400 --> 35:50.800
+that will all do what they will all make one infectious particle and 10 non-infectious
+
+35:50.880 --> 35:53.600
+particles so after one round of replication
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+35:55.120 --> 36:02.480
+in this person's inhalation you will have four of these one two three four five six seven eight
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+36:02.480 --> 36:12.000
+nine ten yeah ten of these and then you will have nine times four you'll have 36 non-infectious
+
+36:12.000 --> 36:17.440
+particles and I won't draw all those out but you don't have 36 of them now I know that this
+
+36:17.520 --> 36:23.440
+is a mathematically weak example but what I want you to see is that a natural coronavirus
+
+36:23.440 --> 36:30.880
+cannot be weaponized you can't grow this entity in a cell culture and ever get enough for it to
+
+36:30.880 --> 36:38.960
+be weaponized but if you take this infectious particle and you sequence it
+
+36:39.760 --> 36:48.160
+and you convert it to DNA and then you make a massive quantity of it right
+
+36:50.560 --> 36:56.800
+you can make as much as you want in a in a cell culture then when you convert it to DNA or to RNA
+
+36:56.800 --> 37:05.280
+again you will have this you will be you will be exposing the animal to you will be sharing with
+
+37:05.280 --> 37:15.120
+your colleague a pure high quality and high quantity of this pure RNA so if they wanted to do this
+
+37:15.120 --> 37:21.360
+and make it look like a coronavirus was circulating around the world knowing that a coronavirus can't
+
+37:21.360 --> 37:30.240
+do that well the technology that they have that is the basis for all laboratory coronavirus and
+
+37:30.320 --> 37:40.160
+RNA virus work is the DNA recombinant infectious clone this RNA infectious clone right here
+
+37:40.720 --> 37:47.600
+and so now imagine if they sprayed that in the subway what would happen people would get very
+
+37:47.600 --> 37:55.280
+sick but they would shed the same cloud of non-infectious particles so these people would
+
+37:55.280 --> 37:59.520
+definitely be sick they would definitely sequence positive they would probably have
+
+37:59.520 --> 38:06.480
+a very severe infection because they're inhaling all infectious particles not
+
+38:06.480 --> 38:14.880
+annoying immunogenic or antigenic particles but particles that will cause replication of that
+
+38:14.880 --> 38:21.200
+DNA and production of viral proteins which is the reason why infection starts to trigger the
+
+38:21.680 --> 38:27.760
+the whole immune cascade in the first place and you can see why in this natural infection
+
+38:28.560 --> 38:35.120
+the the tendency of the immune system is not to go to a cytokine storm but in in a situation like
+
+38:35.120 --> 38:41.920
+this where every cell has a replication competent RNA now you can imagine a scenario where this is
+
+38:41.920 --> 38:48.640
+a really great model of of infection in the laboratory to use it's extremely reliable it's
+
+38:48.720 --> 38:55.280
+extremely robust and more importantly it goes back to a DNA construct that can be shared with
+
+38:56.000 --> 39:04.320
+with an and catalog for all time and so to virologists this is just the way it's done
+
+39:05.120 --> 39:09.920
+but they haven't made the connection that this is the only thing that can be produced in large
+
+39:10.000 --> 39:18.880
+enough quantities to create the signal that we saw if you let an RNA loose and the only way it's
+
+39:18.880 --> 39:25.520
+going to get around the world is this way and there ain't no pandemic and that is the trick
+
+39:26.400 --> 39:32.400
+if we can get people to understand this it is really you know the problem is that it's DNA and
+
+39:32.400 --> 39:37.280
+RNA and so i've got another little drawing that i think i want to share and then i'll be quitting
+
+39:37.280 --> 39:44.000
+i promise this drawing is designed um that anybody can do it on a napkin to explain number
+
+39:44.000 --> 39:49.120
+one how the immune system works and number two why vaccination intramuscularly for most
+
+39:49.920 --> 39:56.560
+if not all things is in reality pretty dumb so i'm going to try and draw the simplest vertebrate
+
+39:56.560 --> 40:03.680
+body i can to illustrate what the immune system does and in so doing i'm going to draw it like this
+
+40:04.640 --> 40:09.040
+and this is also a drawing that any of you can make
+
+40:12.400 --> 40:16.640
+that's great okay perfect so you're going to think oh that's the lungs no it's not
+
+40:17.360 --> 40:24.640
+this right here is the lungs this right here is your GI tract and this these two areas here are
+
+40:24.640 --> 40:37.200
+your body so there is an outside and an inside and it is this barrier here
+
+40:39.680 --> 40:45.520
+that the immune system defends and it fends it defends it in a directional way
+
+40:46.320 --> 40:56.400
+inside out and we know that because this directional this rather this barrier is fortified by a network
+
+40:56.400 --> 41:03.600
+of lymph nodes where the immune system that that guards this barrier and this this illustration
+
+41:03.600 --> 41:09.920
+this might be the skin the lymph nodes are the headquarters of the immune system that man this
+
+41:09.920 --> 41:14.560
+barrier and of course all the mds and all the people that have been reading into this biology
+
+41:14.720 --> 41:21.120
+are aware that this barrier is continuous through the lungs and actually through the gut
+
+41:22.400 --> 41:29.120
+and it's only the change in the manning of that barrier that determines what happens at that barrier
+
+41:29.840 --> 41:35.520
+for example at the lung barrier i'll just put an L here for the lungs at the lung barrier it's
+
+41:35.520 --> 41:42.640
+almost all intolerance we don't really tolerate anything there now you might say that we tolerate
+
+41:42.640 --> 41:47.840
+pollen and that kind of stuff but in general it's still being cleared efficiently by the mucus
+
+41:47.840 --> 41:54.480
+and that's why we're not having to tolerate it but in general at the lungs it's intolerance
+
+41:55.520 --> 42:02.400
+on the other hand in the gut we need to absorb all the all the fatty um all the
+
+42:02.960 --> 42:08.480
+all the things that are not soluble in water have to be dissolved into the lymph which is of course
+
+42:09.040 --> 42:15.600
+also the main travel pathway of the immune system and therefore what happens in the gut is actually
+
+42:15.600 --> 42:21.360
+the opposite it's closer to a tolerance filter than anything else letting almost everything through
+
+42:22.080 --> 42:28.880
+and needing to be very careful about not letting foreign things in so remember when you're teaching
+
+42:29.680 --> 42:36.640
+your your your family that this is also the outside this is also outside
+
+42:38.800 --> 42:43.840
+and that's the point is that when you start to think about the gut as the outside and the lungs
+
+42:43.840 --> 42:49.120
+is the outside and start to understand that there's a continuous mucus membrane between the lungs
+
+42:50.080 --> 42:52.720
+and the gut
+
+42:57.280 --> 43:06.160
+then you will see that actual response to a respiratory pathogen is a response of intolerance
+
+43:06.960 --> 43:14.720
+to viral replication in the lungs and tolerance to the presence of viral proteins in the gut
+
+43:15.440 --> 43:23.440
+and what that does is it creates two very yin and yang differences in the different populations
+
+43:23.440 --> 43:31.760
+in the T cells which are sometimes called T regulatory cells in the gut and then of course T
+
+43:31.760 --> 43:38.400
+helper cells and cytotoxic T cells up here but in reality I think that that whole nomenclature is
+
+43:38.400 --> 43:42.880
+probably a little bit too simplified for the kind of orchestration that happens but I think it's
+
+43:43.440 --> 43:48.720
+for our purposes of teaching our family and friends it's important for them to understand
+
+43:49.520 --> 43:54.800
+just from that explanation that because food and nutrients need to pass through the gut freely
+
+43:54.800 --> 44:02.560
+without us building immunity to them which would be an allergy there is a very different complement
+
+44:02.560 --> 44:08.960
+of immune cells that's found here in the payer's patches then there are found in the lymph nodes
+
+44:08.960 --> 44:16.880
+which serve the lungs but it is the crescendo of the immune system created by the intolerant
+
+44:16.880 --> 44:25.280
+response of the lung cells the immune system protecting the lungs that is counterbalanced
+
+44:25.280 --> 44:31.840
+by the tolerance that builds as the viruses replicate and move down into the gut and those
+
+44:31.840 --> 44:38.640
+proteins are then processed by this wing of the immune system so that these T regulatory cells
+
+44:38.640 --> 44:45.840
+have the exact specificity necessary to turn down the ones that are driving the immune response
+
+44:45.840 --> 44:53.440
+at the lungs and this localization of these different responses and the coordination
+
+44:53.440 --> 45:02.400
+between those cell groups is vital to the proper identification of what B cells need to go into
+
+45:02.400 --> 45:07.760
+storage and what B cells can go into apoptosis what T cells need to go into dormancy and what don't
+
+45:08.960 --> 45:16.160
+it is an orchestration of this response at all of these barriers that are that are exposed to
+
+45:16.160 --> 45:24.080
+these RNAs and if we don't understand exactly how that works I'm fine but I assure you that it is
+
+45:24.080 --> 45:30.560
+the orchestration of these two responses and more that is the sum total R of R immune response which
+
+45:30.560 --> 45:39.280
+means that injecting a vaccine intramuscularly here is about the dumbest thing you can imagine
+
+45:39.280 --> 45:46.160
+doing if you want to augment this system it might work for something I don't know but my guess is
+
+45:46.160 --> 45:52.000
+my feeling is my gut feeling is already months ago that this is the right way to explain it
+
+45:52.800 --> 45:59.520
+that the immune system is designed specifically for this task and if you put something on the
+
+45:59.520 --> 46:06.240
+inside you have essentially created a scenario where the immune system is going to be challenged
+
+46:06.800 --> 46:13.200
+not to make a mistake and now even more important to understand is that in transfection
+
+46:15.040 --> 46:21.920
+whatever cell is going to express the spike protein is going to need to be removed
+
+46:21.920 --> 46:28.080
+and in removing that so that it goes to make an S over this and that's the spike protein
+
+46:28.640 --> 46:34.320
+any cell that needs to be removed is going to be removed by the immune system and that means that
+
+46:34.320 --> 46:41.280
+every time a cell is transfected and gets removed you are challenging we are challenging our immune
+
+46:41.280 --> 46:47.360
+system to be sure and not choose any of our own proteins to present and if it does choose our
+
+46:47.360 --> 46:52.800
+own proteins to present you better hope there isn't a T cell waiting or autoimmunity is non-stop
+
+46:52.800 --> 47:02.400
+and never going back and this die this this Russian roulette is played at every cell that gets
+
+47:02.400 --> 47:09.680
+transfected faithfully with an RNA and it doesn't matter what what tissue it is the potential for
+
+47:09.680 --> 47:17.520
+that error to occur is now real and i believe that that is the main danger of transfection
+
+47:18.160 --> 47:23.280
+that they are trying to hide behind saying that the spike protein is toxic or that the lmp's are
+
+47:23.280 --> 47:29.360
+toxic or that there's dna in the shot what i'm trying to say is that even if all those things
+
+47:29.360 --> 47:35.360
+weren't the perfect transfection would still put your immune system in a situation where it needs
+
+47:35.440 --> 47:41.680
+to make a choice it shouldn't have to make because it's designed to defend these barriers
+
+47:42.240 --> 47:48.640
+in a coordinated fashion and if you try to augment it by bypassing those barriers
+
+47:48.640 --> 47:54.400
+you have also taken the whole orchestration of the immune response out of the equation
+
+47:54.400 --> 48:01.920
+and forced it to make novel choices essentially and i can't stress enough how it doesn't matter how
+
+48:02.080 --> 48:09.840
+how often this doesn't occur we'll never know because autoimmunity many times will not show up
+
+48:09.840 --> 48:15.680
+for years the symptoms might not be something that you're ever going to connect you will never
+
+48:15.680 --> 48:21.440
+connect it to this it's horrible but i think that's one of the reasons why they're so focused on
+
+48:21.440 --> 48:28.960
+the cardio of the cardio the cardiac effects is to try and distract from this what i am sure is
+
+48:29.680 --> 48:36.640
+a ridiculously disturbing bouquet of possibilities that again gets horribly randomized
+
+48:36.640 --> 48:40.800
+in every single person because it is essentially a crap shoe where it goes
+
+48:42.400 --> 48:47.440
+if it goes to your bone marrow when would you know if it goes to your kids bone marrow when would
+
+48:47.440 --> 48:53.040
+you know if it goes to your kids spleen how would you know if it goes to your kids brain
+
+48:53.760 --> 49:00.160
+how would you know what would it show up like i mean these are these are endless questions
+
+49:00.160 --> 49:05.200
+with endless possibilities that compound one another and that's in the best case scenario of a
+
+49:05.200 --> 49:13.680
+transfection now add on the fact that the lmp might be might be poisonous or add on the fact
+
+49:13.680 --> 49:20.560
+that there's dna in there don't start with that add that on top of the fact that in the best case
+
+49:20.640 --> 49:27.600
+scenario this wasn't suitable for anything in a healthy human they were only using it on people
+
+49:27.600 --> 49:32.400
+who were going to die that had a genetic disease that was going to kill them anyway
+
+49:32.400 --> 49:38.960
+or was so ridiculously debilitating that well you got nothing to lose it's never worked
+
+49:40.160 --> 49:46.960
+so we need to really really start to have ways of opening our family and friends eyes i think a
+
+49:46.960 --> 49:51.120
+little simple drawing of the immune system is one way to do it a little simple explanation of
+
+49:51.120 --> 49:57.600
+why the immune system is and shouldn't be making this choice because it's used to making this
+
+49:57.600 --> 50:05.360
+choice at a barrier and in a cell type that is regularly patrolled for cancer i mean that's the
+
+50:05.360 --> 50:11.920
+reason why you shed your skin cells as part of your defense system and so if you're defending on a
+
+50:11.920 --> 50:18.640
+barrier that has that attribute and then you find antigens floating around behind that barrier
+
+50:18.640 --> 50:25.360
+what do you do how do you organize your response where's the cytokine uh where's the cytokine
+
+50:25.360 --> 50:30.960
+concentration gradient to orchestrate the cells moving from from the lymph node to the in fact there
+
+50:30.960 --> 50:39.600
+is none and this all missing means that no matter what you say this does it is not usefully augmenting
+
+50:39.600 --> 50:46.800
+the immune system for most in most scenarios i'm saying most because i want to hedge my bets but
+
+50:47.520 --> 50:53.760
+if i mean if i'm i'm speaking to friends here and and and everybody that i love then for sure i say
+
+50:53.760 --> 50:59.200
+that i think that they're completely wrong i think this picture right here should be the sales pitch
+
+50:59.200 --> 51:03.920
+of why intramuscular injection is really great for them but it's not really great for us
+
+51:04.800 --> 51:09.840
+um i think i could leave it there i already talked too long and then uh you can open up
+
+51:09.840 --> 51:16.160
+with questions i guess hope that was all right wonderful wonderful wonderful so if you stop
+
+51:16.160 --> 51:20.720
+sharing your screen uh so you probably have you think go back to gallery everybody
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+51:22.240 --> 51:32.160
+top right corner click on view and choose gallery jjj thank you for sharing those thoughts as you
+
+51:32.160 --> 51:40.320
+were talking about intramuscular injections i keep hearing judy mike of it's a passionate
+
+51:41.040 --> 51:48.480
+exhortation to us don't inject anything in your bodies as she's told us on numerous occasions
+
+51:48.480 --> 51:55.520
+no more injections and and certainly as you have all heard me say it was 12 years ago that i got
+
+51:55.600 --> 52:04.400
+exposed to this whole game that was going on and the problem is that people aged over 40
+
+52:04.400 --> 52:09.920
+have grown up in an environment that is totally different now so that in australia in the first
+
+52:09.920 --> 52:17.920
+four years you need 43 you need 43 substances pumped into your body in the first four years of
+
+52:17.920 --> 52:23.840
+life in america jj's it's 72 in the first eight years oh sorry first 18 years this is the shit
+
+52:23.840 --> 52:29.760
+that's being pumping to everybody and that's why in my introductory statement i said many of us
+
+52:29.760 --> 52:38.080
+were supportive of vaccines and now many of us are passionate anti-vaxxers and your explanation
+
+52:38.080 --> 52:45.360
+has really reinforced you know my my thinking on this developed over 12 years my five my four
+
+52:45.360 --> 52:51.280
+children got minimal i got four vaccines in the first five years and as we all know
+
+52:52.000 --> 52:58.400
+no proper trials have been done on pumping in australia or else we're 43 bloody antigens into
+
+52:59.280 --> 53:05.440
+beautiful babies which by the way of course and i'll come back to the spiritual elements of
+
+53:05.440 --> 53:11.920
+this god jj's clearly incompetent that's the point you know this immune system that god
+
+53:11.920 --> 53:18.000
+designed is clearly incompetent so that's why we need all these injections right now that was
+
+53:18.080 --> 53:24.240
+just really i was just giving steven a moment but i really you articulated beautifully in this
+
+53:24.240 --> 53:33.040
+whole the the benefit of covid is going to be all of us understanding why on earth are we
+
+53:33.040 --> 53:43.920
+injecting stuff into babies steven and jim thought gave his don't you wouldn't have seen it jj but
+
+53:44.000 --> 53:52.320
+two weeks ago uh jim jim gave his confession here jj where he said where he said there was
+
+53:52.320 --> 53:58.320
+some 12 years ago jim that you said hey maybe injecting these babies is not a great idea so
+
+53:58.880 --> 54:06.560
+that was also that was also very instructive for us to see a man of jim's reputation and
+
+54:06.560 --> 54:15.440
+capability steven so jj um uh so i'm not going to give you hero status but i am going to say that
+
+54:16.160 --> 54:22.800
+you are exactly the kind of person we want on our side one because you're humble and you have
+
+54:22.800 --> 54:29.280
+a track record of changing your mind previously at least once when you were pretty sure that you
+
+54:29.280 --> 54:34.560
+were right the first time but you were honest with us and told us that you actually started
+
+54:34.560 --> 54:40.640
+all over again having actually thought that you'd save the world as you put it i think
+
+54:41.600 --> 54:49.920
+um so i wanted to ask you jj i agree with you that i don't think people can comprehend the um
+
+54:51.440 --> 54:59.360
+the multiplicity of lies that have been told and false leads and uh just extraordinary the whole
+
+55:00.240 --> 55:05.840
+thing the run pool thing i i wanted to ask you about that whether you think that run pool knows
+
+55:05.840 --> 55:12.160
+that that conversation he was having with fauci was leading people astray and would uh would
+
+55:12.160 --> 55:17.440
+actually do the big farmer and all the rest of them they've worked for them in promoting the
+
+55:17.440 --> 55:25.840
+possibility which you and i deny that these uh deadly viral pandemics are a threat to us
+
+55:25.840 --> 55:34.240
+in the future forever more it's just ridiculous the whole thing um i agree with you jj and uh so
+
+55:35.200 --> 55:40.320
+on what you said i think you said on one of the calls i i think you've been on more than twice
+
+55:40.320 --> 55:47.040
+actually um but you said uh that you didn't think you didn't think it was possible
+
+55:47.920 --> 55:56.400
+for them to do what they were threatening to i.e you know the lab uh the creation of a lab virus
+
+55:57.120 --> 56:02.720
+and you also didn't think it was possible for a virus to be transmitted uh for from a
+
+56:02.720 --> 56:10.640
+uh an animal to a human um and uh i think you said that uh so that got me thinking that maybe
+
+56:10.720 --> 56:16.880
+actually they were just uh trying to create a narrative which they could use to fear
+
+56:16.880 --> 56:22.640
+manga people forever more and that's exactly what they've done in my opinion but i think it was
+
+56:22.640 --> 56:26.080
+the way you were thinking the way i was thinking that they both collided and then
+
+56:26.880 --> 56:32.320
+i would really like to uh just before you go out any further like address that because it's
+
+56:32.320 --> 56:38.080
+important there's there are details there that are really important um first of all i i think
+
+56:38.720 --> 56:46.320
+that it's very likely that RNA exosomes of some kind or another can cause illness when you're
+
+56:46.320 --> 56:54.960
+exposed to them from either people conspecifics or from uh from animals and i don't think it's very
+
+56:54.960 --> 57:01.520
+often i don't think it's very contagious because of the nature of RNA but i'm not willing to dismiss
+
+57:02.480 --> 57:06.880
+respiratory disease as being possibly caused by RNA because we have
+
+57:08.560 --> 57:17.680
+uh a a panoply of data that shows that we have so many control mechanisms designed to respond
+
+57:17.680 --> 57:24.880
+to these signals and make sure that that they're mopped up we have you know just the idea that
+
+57:25.520 --> 57:34.160
+what i'm afraid of is that we are being led down a path where where the false information
+
+57:34.160 --> 57:39.360
+you know like there is no viruses there are no measles there's no whatever these kinds of things
+
+57:39.360 --> 57:47.280
+are we're getting very close to saying that when in reality we have to acknowledge first and foremost
+
+57:48.080 --> 57:54.480
+i think if you want to accept the biology that i'm pushing then you have to accept that in 2002
+
+57:55.120 --> 58:03.600
+somebody released an infectious clone and whatever the quantity of it was it was able to go from
+
+58:03.600 --> 58:11.360
+China to several other countries that infect about 10 000 people it killed 700 and when they
+
+58:11.360 --> 58:17.920
+sequenced it it changed about 50 amino acids between each sequence that they were able to
+
+58:18.880 --> 58:27.360
+to generate so compared to this virus which in the first six months changed less than 10 amino
+
+58:27.360 --> 58:35.200
+acids so something very different happened here but my argument would be that you could release a
+
+58:35.200 --> 58:43.760
+quantity of infectious clone equal to that which was released in 2002 and infect about 10 000 people
+
+58:43.760 --> 58:51.760
+and get limited spread which could kill as many as 800 and now if you did that in multiple places
+
+58:51.760 --> 58:59.680
+with the same clone then you would get multiple people multiple chains of limited spread until
+
+58:59.680 --> 59:06.320
+the fidelity of the infectious clone diluted enough so that it was gone would that be three
+
+59:06.320 --> 59:12.720
+people two people one person half a person meaning sometimes it wouldn't sometimes it wouldn't i don't
+
+59:13.680 --> 59:20.720
+but i know that if you did it with the biology that's described in all those books and described
+
+59:20.720 --> 59:26.400
+in all the papers about coronavirus you wouldn't get 10 000 people infected it's not the way it works
+
+59:26.960 --> 59:32.560
+when there's an outbreak of a human coronavirus they're able to track it through 30 people
+
+59:33.200 --> 59:39.840
+or through 10 children or two daycare centers but it's not like you can track it through a whole
+
+59:39.920 --> 59:46.640
+country like the Netherlands even when they have the kind of social monitoring and and system that
+
+59:46.640 --> 59:53.280
+they do they have never been able to do such a thing even though they've tried so to me that's
+
+59:53.280 --> 59:59.920
+the trick is to understand that there definitely is there are signals at this size scale that include
+
+59:59.920 --> 01:00:06.400
+DNA and RNA some of them may be infectious some of them may aggravate your immune system and cause
+
+01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:12.480
+a whole suite of respiratory disease some of them may even have a characteristic
+
+01:00:13.120 --> 01:00:21.760
+protein complement like measles or polio but but the way that they transmit and how they transmit
+
+01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:30.000
+and how fast they can go around the world has been grossly exaggerated in order to get you to be
+
+01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:36.800
+confused about the potential that's in nature versus the potential that would be in a pure bottle
+
+01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:43.920
+of this size that could never exist in nature just like trying to get you confused and think
+
+01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:51.040
+that the uranium that's found in all the soil outside of my house is the same danger as the
+
+01:00:51.040 --> 01:00:58.160
+purified uranium in a bottle of this size and that's really the trick this RNA can't do what
+
+01:00:58.160 --> 01:01:03.760
+they said it does out there but it can definitely do it if they make appear a quantity of it and
+
+01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:11.040
+spray it around and that I don't know how far it would transmit I don't know how many people would
+
+01:01:11.040 --> 01:01:15.360
+get sick from it I don't know if I had it would I cough something out it would make my family sick
+
+01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:23.280
+maybe I don't know but it's real because they can make it and they can make it in large quantities
+
+01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:28.480
+and that's detectable that's PCR positive that's sequinsable and it's culturable
+
+01:01:29.040 --> 01:01:34.640
+which is all the things they would need it to be if they wanted to convince the virologists in Iran
+
+01:01:34.640 --> 01:01:42.240
+in Wuhan in China in the UK and in America independently while something is spreading
+
+01:01:42.240 --> 01:01:46.720
+and it's the same sequence as they reported that's how you would do it you would do it with a call
+
+01:01:47.600 --> 01:01:57.600
+so JJ can you explain given that a deadly virus kills its host and the words deadly viral pandemic
+
+01:01:57.600 --> 01:02:01.680
+but deadly and pandemic cannot coexist in the same sentence in my view
+
+01:02:04.240 --> 01:02:10.560
+and endless deadly viral pandemics is what they're offering us now and we're all at risk from these
+
+01:02:11.120 --> 01:02:21.760
+endless deadly viral pandemics deadly if you believe in viruses then deadly viruses kill their host
+
+01:02:22.640 --> 01:02:31.600
+and they can't by definition obviously create a pandemic and oh people say well what if they
+
+01:02:31.600 --> 01:02:39.440
+cause serious disease same thing so it's on a kind of interplay in my mind
+
+01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:46.240
+yeah I agree I just think that sometimes transmissibility people can't get their heads
+
+01:02:46.240 --> 01:02:52.160
+around this can you think of a simple explanation yeah I mean I'm trying to to get there in the
+
+01:02:52.160 --> 01:02:57.520
+sense of you know once you start playing the discussion of viral dynamics you're actually not
+
+01:02:57.520 --> 01:03:06.240
+really fighting them anymore and I think that's where the no virus crew has their their game down
+
+01:03:06.240 --> 01:03:13.600
+to a science because essentially we should be allies with them they should be allies with us and
+
+01:03:13.600 --> 01:03:22.640
+they should love this clone theory because this clone idea is an idea which explains why virology
+
+01:03:22.640 --> 01:03:29.440
+might be grossly overstated and why a lot of this this science that they hate and say is fake is
+
+01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:35.200
+probably very much exaggerated or misinterpreted and that's fantastic for them but instead
+
+01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:43.760
+as soon as I proposed that maybe this was all done with infectious clones I became a virus guy
+
+01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:49.200
+and I had to but there are no viruses and I had to argue whether there were viruses or not and
+
+01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.880
+I said I don't want to argue about viruses when there are clones
+
+01:03:54.640 --> 01:04:01.840
+JJ I think the no virus people by the very fact that they talk about nothing else and do not want
+
+01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:06.560
+to talk about anything else other than that there's no virus they don't want to talk about the
+
+01:04:06.560 --> 01:04:12.160
+Russia war they don't want to talk about right okay but I guess what I'm saying is though Stephen
+
+01:04:12.160 --> 01:04:20.160
+is that the the the magical power that they have is that we haven't been good enough at stopping
+
+01:04:20.160 --> 01:04:26.000
+playing the virus game so when you are talking about a virus is killing its its hosts so that it
+
+01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:34.480
+can't pandemic or that you say that it's too transmissible and therefore it can't kill everybody
+
+01:04:35.120 --> 01:04:42.960
+these are all scenarios of viral spread absolutely yeah but I did preface it by saying that if one
+
+01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:48.560
+believes in viruses which I'm not sure I do yeah I don't think but I think you can believe in viruses
+
+01:04:48.560 --> 01:04:53.440
+and just not believe that they have the fidelity that you can there can be viruses they could be
+
+01:04:53.920 --> 01:05:00.560
+exosomes that are produced by every animal all the time for all we know and sometimes when we
+
+01:05:01.120 --> 01:05:06.160
+when we meet someone who's producing exosomes that are annoying to our immune system then we
+
+01:05:06.160 --> 01:05:12.160
+produce respiratory symptoms which expel those exosomes and maybe they also come from animals
+
+01:05:12.160 --> 01:05:20.080
+and occasionally those are especially irritating but the idea that that could create a phenomenon
+
+01:05:20.160 --> 01:05:27.600
+like a domino train is the part that they've exaggerated that's all that's all we need for
+
+01:05:27.600 --> 01:05:33.840
+that most of that viral virology to be kind of real but then the pandemic to be a lie
+
+01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:42.400
+so JJ so the porosity with which they argue about no viruses to the exclusion of all else no they
+
+01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:49.120
+don't want to so so they may well be right I I have conceded that many times to these people
+
+01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:55.440
+but they don't want to talk about anything else and so that seems very strange you know it's not
+
+01:05:55.440 --> 01:06:03.120
+in our interest because it's like a cult and there's no other way to describe it it is a cult
+
+01:06:03.120 --> 01:06:08.160
+I agree but I just want to be sure that that that everybody you know you guys are all pretty
+
+01:06:08.160 --> 01:06:14.960
+serious and so at this stage you know it's you got to be pretty nuanced in order to to
+
+01:06:15.040 --> 01:06:22.240
+absolutely to associate how how right they are about a lot of things and yes but having said that
+
+01:06:22.240 --> 01:06:27.600
+even if you are not sure about whether they're right or wrong and we haven't got time to actually
+
+01:06:27.600 --> 01:06:35.200
+prove it beyond reasonable doubt at the moment or even peer review it but we do suspect that then
+
+01:06:35.200 --> 01:06:40.400
+you know the whole virus thing should it might have been pushed at the expense of brilliant
+
+01:06:41.120 --> 01:06:47.760
+human immune system which is the science of immunologist and interestingly JJ I can't remember
+
+01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:56.480
+what I've told you this but someone who's intimately involved in the HIV nonsense in London told me
+
+01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:04.720
+about three months ago that the the immunologists the beginning of their decline was in the 80s
+
+01:07:04.720 --> 01:07:11.840
+which is of course coincides with the rise of virology so you wonder whether that was intentional
+
+01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:17.360
+they took away the the influence and power of immunologists who when I was at medical school
+
+01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:25.600
+the kings of medicine and they they increased the power of an influence of virologists and that
+
+01:07:25.600 --> 01:07:33.200
+was a construct in my view for what happened in 2020 what do you think I mean again I'm I'm not
+
+01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:42.560
+I like Michael Eden's response I'm not I'm not interested in viruses enough to to try to disprove
+
+01:07:42.560 --> 01:07:49.200
+them I'm just interested in saying that the biology that I understand with regard to RNA
+
+01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:57.680
+does not facilitate the kind of picture that we are being painted and and I don't know we need
+
+01:07:57.680 --> 01:08:05.360
+to go any farther than that because it absolutely it's it's really kind of that simple but
+
+01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:11.200
+yeah but the point is for the purposes of what happened in the last three and a half years
+
+01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:20.160
+do you think there was a pandemic was there I mean does the data say that there was pandemic I
+
+01:08:20.240 --> 01:08:27.920
+believe that it doesn't but also Jessica Naka's data says there was no pandemic Dennis says
+
+01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:34.960
+there's no pandemic but there were incidences of simultaneous symptoms there were incidences
+
+01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:43.680
+of simultaneous change of behavior in hospitals and change of behavior in ambulances which could have
+
+01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:50.560
+probably did I'm pretty sure accounts for the vast majority of the damage that it was done and
+
+01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:56.400
+now whether or not that was triggered with a few cases that were seeded with a clone so that the
+
+01:08:56.400 --> 01:09:02.160
+sequence would be the same I think it's almost certain but I don't think you need to think of
+
+01:09:02.160 --> 01:09:09.440
+it as thousands of people I think everyone needs to try and exercise their the simulation in their
+
+01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:17.120
+head of what would happen if you just told everybody that there was a dangerous novel pathogen that
+
+01:09:17.120 --> 01:09:23.920
+could kill anyone that needed to be avoided and that we didn't have any treatments for it but it
+
+01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:30.320
+was killing people and people were dropping in the street in China and you told them that there's
+
+01:09:30.320 --> 01:09:38.800
+money there's tests and there's protection from malpractice as long as you follow this protocol
+
+01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:44.880
+and put a protocol out there how many doctors would go against the protocol how many doctors
+
+01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:50.320
+would go against the tv and facebook how many of the doctors would go against the nightly news
+
+01:09:50.320 --> 01:09:56.400
+briefings about the pandemic none of them would have protocols that's another thing doctors should
+
+01:09:56.400 --> 01:10:02.480
+not have protocols and guidelines okay but that's something that's certainly not protocols that's
+
+01:10:02.480 --> 01:10:08.640
+something that that we have become awakened to now but the reason why the the protocol this
+
+01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:15.440
+sorry the pandemic was able to unfold was because hospitals and their financial structure and
+
+01:10:15.440 --> 01:10:21.760
+managerial structure in America and other places permitted this kind of top-down direction of
+
+01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:29.680
+doctors they could form because they had to there was evil intent always to take take
+
+01:10:30.480 --> 01:10:37.520
+but everybody was afraid and confused and and terrified and so at some point we've got to forgive
+
+01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:44.000
+these people and let them wake up you know i mean and not everyone can be expected to reject
+
+01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:50.000
+the things on television or because it is an illusion of consensus just like the the clapping
+
+01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:57.120
+audience you you can't expect most people to be immune to that level of pressure and it's not like
+
+01:10:57.120 --> 01:11:04.480
+an ash conformity experiment where the the wrong answer is obvious this is a very sophisticated
+
+01:11:05.040 --> 01:11:11.200
+ash conformity experiment where people on tv and people on social media and influencers are all
+
+01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:17.760
+weirdly saying the same stuff and so how in the world are people supposed to wake up it didn't
+
+01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:24.800
+fool me so how did it fool and it's just we just we just maybe we were in the right place at the
+
+01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:29.600
+right time maybe we're lucky maybe whatever but you know there's one thing that all doctors in the
+
+01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:33.840
+world should have known about and that was informed consent which is part of the nuremberg code as
+
+01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:39.440
+you know they should have known about that and they didn't and even when i mentioned that
+
+01:11:39.440 --> 01:11:45.520
+in december 2020 they didn't want to talk about it because they knew that was a killer argument
+
+01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:52.320
+and they didn't want to talk about nuremberg so what they did they took the they took power away
+
+01:11:52.320 --> 01:12:00.320
+from the autonomous individual doctor driven by medical ethics in the name of his or her patients
+
+01:12:00.400 --> 01:12:06.880
+and that was evil and the doctors should have understood about ethics if they didn't understand
+
+01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:14.560
+about anything else anyway so that's anyway that's very steven that's 20 minutes i quickly that goes
+
+01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:22.480
+great conversation okay everybody um thank you steven thank you jj we got hands up so
+
+01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:31.040
+so one of the things that i think is is at the start i said the science is never settled jj
+
+01:12:31.040 --> 01:12:37.200
+as steven has commented on your willingness to change your minds you know it's very interesting
+
+01:12:37.200 --> 01:12:40.800
+the opinions that we hold and seeing some of the comments in the chat i don't follow it very
+
+01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:49.760
+carefully because i'm paying attention to what jj says but you know i i repeat the chinese
+
+01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:56.880
+i'm told it was a chinese saying that says to be uncertain can be uncomfortable
+
+01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:05.520
+to be certain is ridiculous and in the issues that we're dealing with people who are certain
+
+01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:12.800
+about their opinions being right um i think is ridiculous absolutely and i'd say so many times
+
+01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:18.080
+this certainty that people i'm certain that's the answer and then a few weeks down the track
+
+01:13:18.080 --> 01:13:24.640
+it's changed so i just make that observation in this group hey it's great to share ideas here
+
+01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:30.320
+but you don't have to fight to the death for your ideas so that's the that's the that's the
+
+01:13:31.040 --> 01:13:36.640
+thought i wanted to say let's go amy amy then jim then rose and then jim uh two jims
+
+01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:47.200
+hello um i just wanted to ask i haven't seen um all of jj's lectures and this might have been
+
+01:13:47.200 --> 01:13:53.200
+covered before so if this is old territory never mind but as far as this model for some sort of
+
+01:13:53.200 --> 01:13:59.920
+exposure to new or the you know the clone of the original mrna through some sort of distribution
+
+01:13:59.920 --> 01:14:07.360
+mechanism other than viral transmission um does this have any effect on what you think should
+
+01:14:07.360 --> 01:14:14.160
+happen as far as with the injections some sort of shedding or contamination to non vaccinated
+
+01:14:14.160 --> 01:14:20.800
+people who are exposed to the people who were subjected to the vaccination the mrna vaccination
+
+01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:26.160
+um it's a good question it's something that i tend not to broach very much because
+
+01:14:27.040 --> 01:14:33.600
+it's i don't have enough expertise really to to speak extremely specific about it but
+
+01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:39.520
+number one it depends on the success of the transfection so how much rna reaches a cell
+
+01:14:40.240 --> 01:14:46.000
+and then how much of that rna gets faithfully trans translated into a functional protein and
+
+01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:52.160
+then how much of that could go into circulation or get extruded um i think will all depend on what
+
+01:14:52.160 --> 01:14:59.280
+tissues are transfected and so it's probably different in every person um but there is potential
+
+01:14:59.920 --> 01:15:07.920
+for excess a protein to be excreted and sweat um it's possible that it could be also in saliva
+
+01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:15.840
+and any other fluids because number one the makers of these shots warned in their own paperwork
+
+01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:21.600
+that people who are transfected shouldn't be having sex with with other people who aren't
+
+01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:27.680
+be presumably because there could be exposure to the protein um i guess it wouldn't be because the
+
+01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:33.520
+rna could be could be transmitted from person to person but i i assume they're assuming that
+
+01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:42.080
+the protein could um i think you can also go from from anecdotal um experiences in your own life
+
+01:15:42.080 --> 01:15:46.880
+if if you ate enough garlic would it come out in your sweat i think the answer is definitely yes
+
+01:15:47.440 --> 01:15:54.560
+and i think um that goes pretty much for a lot of a lot of things that we eat and a lot of things
+
+01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:58.400
+that we expose ourselves to so there's really no reason to believe that if you had excess
+
+01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:03.120
+of this spike protein in your body was more or less tolerating and at some point it would come
+
+01:16:03.120 --> 01:16:09.040
+out in your sweat um i don't know if that would happen on the first shot um but as your body builds
+
+01:16:09.040 --> 01:16:13.760
+tolerance to this spike protein it's very possible that later shots could produce an excess amount
+
+01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:19.280
+of protein that then gets secreted but i honestly i don't know i could be completely wrong and it's
+
+01:16:19.280 --> 01:16:25.680
+the first shot that has the most but the idea that it wouldn't happen again is a certainty that i'm
+
+01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:28.880
+not definitely not willing to state i definitely think it's possible
+
+01:16:30.160 --> 01:16:35.680
+okay thank you so much yep thank you thank you thank you thank you amie and i think
+
+01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:40.240
+amie you raised a good point the fact that it's you know jj might have spoken about something in
+
+01:16:40.240 --> 01:16:44.320
+the past and he weren't here on a previous call doesn't matter because we have such a shifting
+
+01:16:44.320 --> 01:16:50.240
+population and the people watching this recording will have a question so all questions are
+
+01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:52.480
+wonderfully provocative jim
+
+01:16:54.880 --> 01:17:03.360
+hey thanks jj great talk number one are you aware of cocsiella bernetti and its similarities to the
+
+01:17:03.360 --> 01:17:10.640
+symptoms of covid it can be sprayed over miles janet woodcock when asked about it refused to
+
+01:17:10.640 --> 01:17:18.080
+comment about it it is an intelligence weapon i have heard of it before and um i have and it
+
+01:17:19.120 --> 01:17:25.840
+it you know it's one of these more complicated scenarios that i think will only be discovered
+
+01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:34.160
+in an investigation um but i do think that there's been a number of potential explanations that
+
+01:17:34.160 --> 01:17:44.080
+include a toxin for the the bump in in symptoms uh you know clones for whatever little experiment
+
+01:17:44.080 --> 01:17:52.080
+are needed to fool molecular biologists and then the rest was just madness um and so i i don't mind
+
+01:17:52.080 --> 01:17:59.600
+that explanation um it would be interesting if that explanation uh would naturally offer some
+
+01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:04.400
+kind of alternative biological prediction like what would be there in evidence of that
+
+01:18:04.400 --> 01:18:10.000
+instead um but if it's as simple as people getting secondary pneumonia and it being bacterial then
+
+01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:12.720
+you know but that's treatment that's what happened
+
+01:18:14.160 --> 01:18:21.600
+treatment for cocsiella is hydroxychloroquine icy induction well then you know if i did hear
+
+01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:28.800
+i will without any double blind placebo controlled studies he did it by deduction yeah well it is
+
+01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:34.800
+done again there's there's there's lots of anecdotal evidence there for that being a possibility and
+
+01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:43.280
+if you if you i mean one of the best examples of why i think that this is plausible and one of the
+
+01:18:43.280 --> 01:18:54.160
+reasons why this clicks with me is that i feel and sense that they want you to feel like i vermectin
+
+01:18:54.160 --> 01:19:00.800
+is the drug that was suppressed but in actuality the drug that was suppressed first and much much
+
+01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:08.880
+harder was hydroxychloroquine and um i think that is a part of this narrative that i haven't been
+
+01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:14.000
+able to get enough handhold yet on how to teach it but this might be one of the reasons why
+
+01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:21.840
+that's the right answer is that hydroxychloroquine is actually a treatment for a for a wide variety
+
+01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:29.040
+of these respiratory diseases and it was actually as you're probably aware also um a in vitro confirmed
+
+01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:36.560
+preventing uh sars infection as well in 2005 so there was very good reason for that to be on a
+
+01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:42.320
+shortlist of substances and it was the first one that was censored and i still have the clip
+
+01:19:42.320 --> 01:19:50.320
+somewhere but in 2020 in february already abc news reported that the united states government put
+
+01:19:50.320 --> 01:19:57.520
+20 000 hydroxychloroquine pills in their in the in storage or whatever and their in their strategic
+
+01:19:57.520 --> 01:20:05.120
+stockpile and donald trump ramped up the production of hydroxychloroquine in florida until
+
+01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:14.320
+a a plant in taiwan that made the precursor i think or maybe i'm just getting the two confused
+
+01:20:14.320 --> 01:20:20.160
+but a plant in taiwan that also made hydroxychloroquine or a required precursor of it burnt down
+
+01:20:21.120 --> 01:20:27.920
+um so there was like a number of things that all it's much worse with hydroxychloroquine in terms
+
+01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:34.080
+of how hard they tried to go against it um then ivermectin and there's been books there are books
+
+01:20:34.160 --> 01:20:38.400
+about ivermectin but there's no books about hydroxychloroquine and that's a big sign
+
+01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:43.360
+i can talk you offline about that one more question about jason mcclellan
+
+01:20:43.360 --> 01:20:49.120
+who invented the sars covid 2 spike protein that is allegedly made by the mrna when injected
+
+01:20:49.120 --> 01:20:54.640
+jason mcclellan out of the university of texas austin put in the six proline restraints
+
+01:20:56.400 --> 01:20:59.040
+he developed it on a supercomputer called long horn
+
+01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:03.680
+hmm the spike protein looks like it's generated by computer
+
+01:21:06.080 --> 01:21:13.440
+um what do you what are your thoughts on well um my thoughts on that are that if the
+
+01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:22.000
+if the pandemic was meant to be orchestrated then there was a very specific problem that they had
+
+01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:30.080
+to solve and that was how are they going to guarantee that the mrna that they use will be
+
+01:21:30.080 --> 01:21:37.280
+effective and can be sold as being effective and so if the way that they solve that problem is by
+
+01:21:37.280 --> 01:21:46.080
+designing a coronavirus spike protein that had immunogenic properties and then lied about that
+
+01:21:46.080 --> 01:21:52.800
+sequence being found either by planting it uh probably by planting it with clone
+
+01:21:53.680 --> 01:22:01.280
+then you get this okay so we plant our our we make our RNA uh infectious clone release it in
+
+01:22:01.280 --> 01:22:06.800
+wuhan and iran they sequence it and report the sequence and lo and behold it's a sequence that
+
+01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:13.520
+we know will work to generate antibodies after multiple shots and so we'll just pretend well
+
+01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:20.320
+we'll just choose the spike protein lucky for us it works and then later on say that maybe it
+
+01:22:20.320 --> 01:22:25.200
+worked too well or that it was toxic or something like that and then the narrative is useful on both
+
+01:22:25.200 --> 01:22:32.160
+sides of the coin um and again i don't have i don't have molecular evidence for that but i
+
+01:22:32.160 --> 01:22:40.720
+don't think it's implausible at all to think that if this was an orchestrated operation then the idea
+
+01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:49.680
+would be to guarantee that they would have a a a shoe in working countermeasure that they wouldn't
+
+01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:55.280
+have to roll the dice on that would for sure work um and when they rolled it out they could point
+
+01:22:55.280 --> 01:23:00.000
+to the antibodies when they did the trials they knew it would work the way to do that would have a
+
+01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:06.800
+protein that already they already knew worked in the sequence that was found but that's getting
+
+01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:14.560
+pretty good yeah and and this is the plot of rainbow six it's known as quote the project
+
+01:23:15.200 --> 01:23:21.520
+and uh a quote virus is released at an olympic games spreads around the world in a in a soon
+
+01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:26.560
+after the games is over the vaccine is more deadly than the virus engineered by radical
+
+01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:32.720
+environmentalists to depopulate the earth in the name of climate change that's the plot of rainbow
+
+01:23:32.720 --> 01:23:40.960
+six competency yeah it's it's i'm aware it's um you know they're the the new planet of the apes is
+
+01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:46.400
+also a viral movie where they talk about antibodies neutralizing a virus six times in the first movie
+
+01:23:46.400 --> 01:23:50.320
+and then the second movie starts out with the virus spreading around the world with red dots and
+
+01:23:50.320 --> 01:23:58.000
+airplanes and uh and uh all the people being wiped out and so and they even call it a zoonotic virus
+
+01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:04.320
+and stuff it's it's there's no doubt that that the mythology of a pandemic is meant to be
+
+01:24:05.040 --> 01:24:10.960
+the new governing structure and the the the the temptation of course is to try and figure out
+
+01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:18.240
+exactly how they did this um but i think our task still really remains trying to bring more people
+
+01:24:18.240 --> 01:24:24.480
+on the side of understanding that we were lied to and let's fight about what the lies were later
+
+01:24:24.480 --> 01:24:31.440
+because right now we're we're really you know preaching to the choir all the time here we're not
+
+01:24:31.440 --> 01:24:37.120
+i don't need to convert you and you don't need to convert me and so we have to i feel like my job
+
+01:24:37.120 --> 01:24:42.880
+now is to come up with a message that converts new people without getting them to accept that all
+
+01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:48.800
+governments are bad at the first moment that they that they open their mind to this obviously that's
+
+01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:55.280
+where we want them to go but um there's so many people that are so sucked into this right now
+
+01:24:55.280 --> 01:25:02.160
+and so convinced that that consensus is real um and so it's going to take a lot of work to save
+
+01:25:02.160 --> 01:25:08.400
+them and and i don't know how we're going to do it but um i think the first thing and the first thing
+
+01:25:08.400 --> 01:25:13.120
+to start with is that they were lying and they've been planning this lie for a very very long time
+
+01:25:13.120 --> 01:25:18.160
+and i think the book that you cite along with all the other books that are out there the movies the
+
+01:25:18.720 --> 01:25:25.200
+x-files episodes the tv shows the cartoons that have all laid this narrative out they're all part
+
+01:25:25.200 --> 01:25:32.160
+of it and it's not it's i've said this in another interview today they're playing for all the marbles
+
+01:25:32.160 --> 01:25:37.840
+and their time frame isn't five years from now their time frame is 50 years at 100 years from now
+
+01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:44.320
+and it has been that time frame for several generations i mean if you want to think about it
+
+01:25:44.320 --> 01:25:50.560
+like i think about it i think you should think that the united states government or sorry the
+
+01:25:50.560 --> 01:25:56.720
+united states populace was fooled into believing that they rebelled against the crown and won
+
+01:25:56.720 --> 01:26:01.840
+their freedom when in reality most of the united states government and it's inner working stayed
+
+01:26:01.840 --> 01:26:08.080
+loyal and we are still under their control and in fact this is the culmination of a plan to grind
+
+01:26:08.080 --> 01:26:13.840
+us into the ground for breaking away from them in the first place and that's where the intelligence
+
+01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:20.640
+agencies come in that's where this this whole plan is not a government it's bigger than that
+
+01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:27.440
+because the idea is to grind america into the dirt because we're the last the last legislature
+
+01:26:27.440 --> 01:26:33.120
+of sort of bastion of freedom possible anymore the other ones are all gone already so this is the
+
+01:26:33.120 --> 01:26:39.600
+one they have to smash but that was on keep in mind on topic and keep in mind if the intelligence
+
+01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:45.200
+agencies invented it they know the antidote well i still am tempted by the idea that there's
+
+01:26:45.200 --> 01:26:48.560
+no antidote necessary they just have to make you convinced that there's needed one
+
+01:26:50.080 --> 01:26:56.400
+um then i know that that's not always true but that's my yep excellent rainbow six everybody
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+01:26:56.400 --> 01:27:02.560
+we had it mentioned a few times before excellent reminder and uh jj in answer to that question of
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+01:27:03.120 --> 01:27:10.320
+how are we going to influence in my view there's going to be a match that sets off the bushfire
+
+01:27:10.320 --> 01:27:17.520
+of united resistance of eight thousand million against one million and it will be something like
+
+01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:25.520
+a judge and peter huga mentions it it'll be something like a judge a highly placed judge in
+
+01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:34.960
+a court whose child has died from myocarditis pericarditis or a top business man who comes out
+
+01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:42.960
+and says i have been telling lies and that one match is what could be it jj and let's keep our
+
+01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:50.960
+eyes peeled because because the judges have been corrupted and some some of them will awaken
+
+01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:56.480
+eventually and steven's comments about nuremberg we don't know what the match will be
+
+01:27:57.200 --> 01:28:02.000
+but i'm very comfortable that there will be a match i'm also comfortable that it might be in
+
+01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:08.800
+two three years time so we don't stop as you've taught on us at the start so jj i remind everybody
+
+01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:17.680
+that you also said global problems are bullshit i love that idea that global problems are bullshit
+
+01:28:17.760 --> 01:28:23.280
+that's nick hudson all credit to nick hudson when they say global problems need global solutions
+
+01:28:23.280 --> 01:28:32.640
+you know it's global bs beautiful rose jj first off i love your breakdown of the science with clones
+
+01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:40.000
+that was very helpful to me so i want to give a twist to the comment that you made regarding
+
+01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:47.440
+that they're giving people to go down the wrong avenue when you were talking about oh gain a function
+
+01:28:47.440 --> 01:28:53.920
+versus natural yada yada yada so i want to do a twist on that exact same thing regarding the actual
+
+01:28:53.920 --> 01:29:00.560
+science i've been in health care for 40 years and as a health care consultant have been fighting
+
+01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:08.880
+behind the curtain with the unnecessary dust massive fraud doing the health analytics for 20
+
+01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:16.640
+years i've been alone voice crying out going guys you know title five of the aca we've got
+
+01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:22.640
+dummy down clinicians they can pass boards they don't know what they're doing we've got unnecessary
+
+01:29:22.640 --> 01:29:30.880
+deaths going on with hospital acquired infections conditions medical errors in 2016 i was invited
+
+01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:38.000
+to the who's who of health care in the united states where they declared open fraud on the stage
+
+01:29:38.080 --> 01:29:45.680
+and the room applauded and they openly said about how they're hiring convicts at john's hopkins
+
+01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:55.200
+because they want to do social experiments so my point being is that all of health care
+
+01:29:55.200 --> 01:30:04.640
+has been corrupted now for a very long time and i think you know the average person can't absorb
+
+01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:12.720
+the science they can't they're so bombarded with the political narratives that i think that
+
+01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:22.880
+in of itself is the distraction from the overall problem that all of health care has been corrupted
+
+01:30:22.880 --> 01:30:31.440
+and the staff has been dummy down and we haven't had informed consent across the board for a very
+
+01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:38.880
+long time so i'd like to throw that out to the group of is the science being a distraction because
+
+01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:50.880
+when we're trying to get to a billion people that can't handle the talk if we can kind of get back
+
+01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:59.680
+to the root issues of health care itself so that it's more palatable for the people to get on board
+
+01:31:00.240 --> 01:31:05.280
+with all of the issues so i just want to kind of throw that out to the group because i love the
+
+01:31:05.280 --> 01:31:11.520
+way that you were saying how we're being distracted and pulled and right now it's a bombarding of
+
+01:31:11.520 --> 01:31:18.080
+information and then on the on the virus talk i break it down to the average person of it's
+
+01:31:18.080 --> 01:31:26.240
+spiked protein it's a protein let's talk about spiked protein and not about viruses
+
+01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:29.360
+so i wanted to get your thoughts on that jj
+
+01:31:31.680 --> 01:31:37.840
+sorry i muted myself um yeah so i don't know how i would comment on that i mean it's a
+
+01:31:38.720 --> 01:31:46.160
+it's a it's a system-wide phenomenon one of the worst and biggest failures that i see in the
+
+01:31:46.160 --> 01:31:52.080
+pandemic is the absolute abject failure of every academic biologist who isn't aware that this is
+
+01:31:52.160 --> 01:31:57.600
+a fraud already and there are millions of them people at the university of pittsburgh that in my
+
+01:31:58.400 --> 01:32:03.520
+neurobiology uh department was more than a hundred faculty members and none of them have
+
+01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:09.600
+ever called me to say wow you were right or holy man i'm sorry that happened to you or anything
+
+01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:16.320
+like that they've all injected their kids and shown it on on on instagram and on facebook
+
+01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:25.760
+so these are these are academics who purport to be biologists who have just given up on the
+
+01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:30.240
+on their responsibility to understand what's really going on and have decided that they're
+
+01:32:30.240 --> 01:32:35.440
+just going to even though they know in their heart that something isn't right they're just gonna
+
+01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:40.560
+go on with their lives and go on with their grant applications and go on with their courses
+
+01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:45.760
+and go on with their supervision and and go on with the daycare and and they're not going to
+
+01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:51.040
+question the big picture around them because they're too busy they've got too much to do they're
+
+01:32:51.040 --> 01:32:56.080
+up for 10 year next year their husband lost their job so we're not sure if they're going to move
+
+01:32:56.080 --> 01:32:59.920
+and you know their kids are going to go to high school they're not sure what school they're
+
+01:32:59.920 --> 01:33:07.440
+going to go to and so all of us as she says as rose said have been driven to the point where
+
+01:33:07.440 --> 01:33:13.440
+paying attention to this unless you're someone like me who's just mentally ill and can't not pay
+
+01:33:13.440 --> 01:33:21.200
+attention to it you are forced to deal with the inflation and the the impact on your life and on
+
+01:33:21.200 --> 01:33:26.960
+your kids and what's going on you can't pay attention to this public health thing that's still rolling
+
+01:33:26.960 --> 01:33:35.200
+forward rolling forward like a massive um sort of unstoppable juggernaut where all these people
+
+01:33:35.200 --> 01:33:41.760
+are planning for the next thing and the next move and no one no one no one no one in our bureaucracies
+
+01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:49.840
+seems to be willing to look back and say wow we really we really screwed that up and the reason
+
+01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:57.440
+why is because they're all in on this change that is coming and so the the scary part is I guess that
+
+01:33:58.400 --> 01:34:04.160
+that it's going to take something much more than just awareness like really a lot of people are
+
+01:34:04.160 --> 01:34:08.960
+going to have to decide to get up and do something and and so there's a lot of momentum we still
+
+01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:16.000
+need to generate so it's tricky because it is hard to start getting people to think like this
+
+01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:22.400
+because it's it's harder to think like this than it is to you know just just watch Netflix and
+
+01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:28.000
+and worry about you know everyday things which is really what everybody should
+
+01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:34.720
+should be having the the freedom and privilege to do but yeah and I guess what I'm saying is that
+
+01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:39.600
+in the overall picture of what I've been battling for almost 20 years now
+
+01:34:40.640 --> 01:34:48.480
+covid is actually a small element it's it's so much bigger and and I guess to your point I have
+
+01:34:48.480 --> 01:34:56.720
+come across that with my hc aware presentations I get wide eyed open jawed stuns silence when they
+
+01:34:56.720 --> 01:35:04.160
+actually understand the big picture of the brokenness that covid is such a small piece of it
+
+01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:09.360
+yeah it's unfortunate that I think it's even as you're probably hinting at it's much worse than
+
+01:35:09.360 --> 01:35:14.320
+this in the sense of you know if we're if we're really honest and talk about everything that's on
+
+01:35:14.320 --> 01:35:22.640
+the table the financial system of America is is is overextended by that's saying it mildly and
+
+01:35:22.640 --> 01:35:30.000
+they have seen this coming for some time and one of the biggest signals that something is very wrong
+
+01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:34.240
+was something that I already said before I moved to Europe in 2002 which is how in the
+
+01:35:34.240 --> 01:35:40.800
+hell is it possible that somebody like Nancy Pelosi or somebody like Mitch McConnell is still
+
+01:35:41.520 --> 01:35:48.000
+in government it's just not possible unless it's corrupt and I was saying that 20 years ago and
+
+01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:55.360
+guess who are still in office now and that should be that should be terrifying to us that there isn't
+
+01:35:55.440 --> 01:36:03.120
+someone in Kentucky between the ages of 50 and 60 or between 40 and 60 with a successful track
+
+01:36:03.120 --> 01:36:08.560
+record of keeping their arms straight and having principles when they're needed that could serve
+
+01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:15.360
+as a better senator than that guy but our system is is very very far gone I guess where I'm going
+
+01:36:15.360 --> 01:36:21.760
+with the health care is is like again I love our talks around the science but to try to get to
+
+01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:29.280
+more and more average people the science is just too overwhelming and so how can we get them to
+
+01:36:29.280 --> 01:36:36.560
+understand there's a lack of informed consent for everything the nurses and doctors now in the
+
+01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:42.480
+hospitals aren't trained they don't know what yeah I see I see that I see that that's tough though I
+
+01:36:42.480 --> 01:36:51.120
+get that I do understand that point but that's why I'm for example trying to give a very you know
+
+01:36:51.120 --> 01:36:58.480
+cartoonish representation of the immune system which gets closer to the mark because I think
+
+01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:05.280
+that we've got to be very careful and not fall into the trap of this is too complicated to
+
+01:37:05.280 --> 01:37:09.520
+explain to people because I don't think it is that's the whole trap that you know the
+
+01:37:09.520 --> 01:37:14.160
+technocracy wants you to buy into is that I'm not an expert in that and therefore I have to defer
+
+01:37:14.160 --> 01:37:21.040
+to the experts who are and that's the excuse that everybody in in in academia uses because
+
+01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:28.320
+I work on hippocampal neurons and I work on long-term potentiation in in CA1 and so since I'm only an
+
+01:37:28.320 --> 01:37:33.840
+expert on the hippocampus in mice then what would I know about the immune system and its response
+
+01:37:33.840 --> 01:37:42.080
+to a coronavirus and this you're giving up your your it's not it is a responsibility you know I'm
+
+01:37:42.080 --> 01:37:47.040
+not a weatherman so I don't know if I should I'll just lose into the TV and decide what to wear
+
+01:37:47.040 --> 01:37:52.080
+because I'm not a weatherman I can't tell whether I should bring a jacket or not it's the same kind
+
+01:37:52.080 --> 01:37:58.800
+of attitude but now to your children's future your children's gender and your immune system's
+
+01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:05.440
+augmentation at the whim of a corporation or a government or a or a global entity and that's
+
+01:38:05.440 --> 01:38:10.640
+that's it's an incredible place for us to have gone in the last three years I'm sorry I got off
+
+01:38:10.640 --> 01:38:17.920
+topic there no that's good thank you thank you Rose now before we go to Jim JJ I'm going to say to
+
+01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:26.160
+you that you've been on this call now and I'm interested in health your health I say to you that
+
+01:38:26.160 --> 01:38:29.920
+if you haven't had to go to the toilet yet in two hours you're not drinking enough water
+
+01:38:32.240 --> 01:38:36.320
+I can agree with that um the bottle is still very full though so I'll keep drinking
+
+01:38:37.120 --> 01:38:43.920
+keep drinking keep drinking and everybody drink lots of water and not fluoridated water
+
+01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:50.160
+so JJ we've got half an hour to go we've got two four hands up and then Stephen's closing questions
+
+01:38:50.160 --> 01:38:55.040
+we're finishing on the two and a half hour mark so if you need to go to the toilet go now
+
+01:38:55.040 --> 01:39:03.520
+give the last half hour up to you you okay no I'm okay I'm playing right okay dr Jim here you are
+
+01:39:03.520 --> 01:39:06.240
+giving me some health now here you are Jim over to you
+
+01:39:07.440 --> 01:39:16.080
+JJ it's such an honor and privilege to listen to you and you're really I'm extraordinarily impressed
+
+01:39:16.080 --> 01:39:25.520
+with your presentation if you know I'm 44 plus years out of medical school and I was taught
+
+01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:32.800
+nothing in medical school about vaccines and if if I had my dr others if I had the power
+
+01:39:33.360 --> 01:39:39.680
+of putting a medical school curricula for every medical school in the United States of America
+
+01:39:40.480 --> 01:39:46.000
+you would be a mandatory lecture once a week for the first two years of every medical student
+
+01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:55.920
+in this country amen and to my question is um you're this positive of your simplistic diagram
+
+01:39:56.400 --> 01:40:03.200
+I've never seen anything like that it's it's and I've I've been interested in the immune system for
+
+01:40:03.200 --> 01:40:12.560
+for 44 years it's brilliant it's it's it's and it's physiologic and it's it's it's spot on I'm
+
+01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:19.840
+very very impressed with that I love it thank you very much I mean it's uh it was I can tell you
+
+01:40:19.840 --> 01:40:27.440
+the honest truth it was um something that I I was on my motorcycle and I knew at once that I had it
+
+01:40:27.440 --> 01:40:32.800
+I saw the whole picture um and I knew that I had to teach it that way and that was the first day
+
+01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:38.560
+that I actually put that slide up that said intramuscular injection might be dumb it's beautiful thank
+
+01:40:38.560 --> 01:40:47.040
+you I want to just go to one question and I'll let you maybe maybe two questions is I'm very very
+
+01:40:47.120 --> 01:40:52.640
+interested and you may I don't want to put you on the spot but the highlight of those you know the
+
+01:40:52.640 --> 01:40:58.560
+prominent um leaders that you had in the beginning of your presentation somewhere in a grain somewhere
+
+01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:04.640
+in a yellow and somewhere in a red frame and I'm just wondering if you might you may may not be
+
+01:41:04.640 --> 01:41:14.880
+willing to um to amplify on that like why were some of the folks in red from your perspective why
+
+01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:22.400
+were some of those in yellow and um and and and then the and I'll let you go on with that and
+
+01:41:22.400 --> 01:41:30.560
+I'll shut up thank you um I I would I can go back and just kind of say a little bit um and I just
+
+01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:38.640
+want to want to emphasize that the the reason why I would go back is because um I just want to make
+
+01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:45.280
+sure that you understand that it's it's uh it's it's my own personal experience that I'm trying to
+
+01:41:45.280 --> 01:41:54.800
+share and and the reason why that's important is because I was entangled with many of these people
+
+01:41:55.680 --> 01:42:02.960
+from the very beginning because I got involved in this group drastic on twitter which ended up
+
+01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:08.880
+being central to the narrative of the lab leak and who figured it out and whatever and reported
+
+01:42:08.880 --> 01:42:16.320
+on Tucker Carlson and Vanity Fair now don't get me wrong drastic was reported but it was attributed
+
+01:42:16.320 --> 01:42:24.320
+to people that weren't in drastic as would you would typically expect but more importantly drastic
+
+01:42:24.320 --> 01:42:28.800
+was a group of people most of whom were anonymous and the person who formed the group is still
+
+01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:37.840
+anonymous and so at some point I became skeptical of that group but in that first year I was
+
+01:42:37.840 --> 01:42:45.520
+contacted by many many many different people in various phone calls emails and these people
+
+01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:54.560
+turned out to be influential people later on or or continued to play certain roles later on and so
+
+01:42:55.520 --> 01:43:01.440
+one of the people that I have up here for example is Brett Weinstein and he's in yellow but in
+
+01:43:01.440 --> 01:43:05.840
+reality I would say that he actually should be in red because Brett Weinstein is someone who
+
+01:43:06.720 --> 01:43:15.360
+without a doubt um I taught most of the biology that I just presented here I taught to him in 2021
+
+01:43:15.360 --> 01:43:22.400
+in a signal chat that he personally invited me to join and in that signal chat instead of saying
+
+01:43:22.480 --> 01:43:27.360
+wow that's really great I can't believe how much you've taught me he said at some point that he
+
+01:43:27.360 --> 01:43:32.080
+didn't understand what I was talking about and he didn't think a zoom discussion with me would
+
+01:43:32.080 --> 01:43:40.560
+help him to help him understand it and so I stopped communicating with him now in this same signal
+
+01:43:40.560 --> 01:43:50.080
+chat I was in that signal chat in 2021 with Brett when he interviewed Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in his
+
+01:43:50.080 --> 01:43:56.720
+house now if you're not aware that was November of 2021 but Brett didn't release that video
+
+01:43:57.280 --> 01:44:06.080
+until February of 2023 and now you can't imagine can you imagine having Robert F. Kennedy Jr. come
+
+01:44:06.080 --> 01:44:10.640
+to your house and record a three-hour podcast and then you're just casually not releasing it for 14
+
+01:44:10.640 --> 01:44:17.680
+months now there's also Steve Kirsch and Robert Malone on here and the reason why they're on here
+
+01:44:17.680 --> 01:44:23.520
+in yellow is because they came out on Brett Weinstein's podcast that's the first place that
+
+01:44:23.520 --> 01:44:30.720
+they came public when they came out publicly the three of them stated that they were demonstrating
+
+01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:36.480
+a combination of strategies that would allow strangers to hang out with each other Robert Malone
+
+01:44:36.480 --> 01:44:43.760
+was vaccinated and also infected he had hybrid immunity Brett Weinstein had never been infected
+
+01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:49.440
+but was using ivermectin prophylactically and Steve Kirsch had been vaccinated twice
+
+01:44:50.400 --> 01:44:56.080
+and so they started their podcast in the first 10 minutes by laying down a narrative that there
+
+01:44:56.080 --> 01:45:01.680
+was a novel virus for which these countermeasures are effective and that maybe it's a lab leak and
+
+01:45:01.680 --> 01:45:09.600
+it'll come again now I can keep going on and on and on but all of these people have essentially
+
+01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:15.440
+played some pretty critical like Nurse Aaron down here for example on the bottom is a person
+
+01:45:15.440 --> 01:45:21.760
+who who admits to being in the army admits to being in the psychological operations group
+
+01:45:21.760 --> 01:45:31.600
+in the army and started an anti-vax group two of them in 2018 and 19 in Florida before the start
+
+01:45:31.600 --> 01:45:38.640
+of the pandemic when she moved up to New York and was in present in this Elmer's hospital to make
+
+01:45:38.640 --> 01:45:44.880
+all these videos and show that they were mixing COVID patients with regular patients and and that
+
+01:45:44.880 --> 01:45:50.400
+it was spreading and that it was all this people getting hurt and then she wrote a book and did a
+
+01:45:50.400 --> 01:45:58.960
+tour you can you can go on and on Kevin McCurnan is a guy who who's as best as I can tell has made
+
+01:45:58.960 --> 01:46:04.560
+hundreds of millions of dollars if tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars selling companies
+
+01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:10.560
+that have all to do with his years and years of experience in the human genome project where he
+
+01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:16.800
+dropped his PhD and immediately went to work for the government in the 90s whenever that project
+
+01:46:16.800 --> 01:46:23.840
+started he's got like really young pictures of him and Francis Collins walking around the original
+
+01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:29.440
+lab or the original sequencing was done in the original human genome project that was featured on
+
+01:46:29.440 --> 01:46:39.280
+time this guy has a as a 7,000 square foot house on the ocean in Boston and yet he spends or used
+
+01:46:39.280 --> 01:46:46.240
+to spend an inordinate amount of time on Twitter tweeting against me telling me that infectious
+
+01:46:46.240 --> 01:46:50.720
+clones were a mythology that I didn't understand and that they were the same as regular coronavirus
+
+01:46:50.720 --> 01:46:57.120
+isn't that Jay was dumb a guy who has no business even having a Twitter account never mind paying
+
+01:46:57.120 --> 01:47:06.320
+attention to a guy like me with 3,000 followers on twitch so the behavior of these people has been
+
+01:47:06.320 --> 01:47:15.920
+so extraordinary nine days nine days after I was on Robert F Kennedy jr's podcast with Robert Malone
+
+01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:22.560
+I met Robert Malone in person and he jerked his hand away and said that I've never met you I don't
+
+01:47:22.560 --> 01:47:29.600
+know who you are and I've never introduced you to Robert F Kennedy jr however Bobby told me
+
+01:47:30.240 --> 01:47:36.480
+that it was Robert Malone who sat him down to watch my stream and that's the reason why he hired me
+
+01:47:37.120 --> 01:47:42.960
+so I guess according to Robert Malone Bobby Kennedy is lying to me it's possible but Robert
+
+01:47:42.960 --> 01:47:47.600
+Malone's the one who pulled his hand away and said I don't know who you are nine nine days after he
+
+01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:55.520
+was on a podcast with Bobby and me so it's strange because the the behavior of all of these people
+
+01:47:55.520 --> 01:48:00.320
+has been really extraordinary I mean give me another example here's a tonic this Mark Koolack
+
+01:48:00.320 --> 01:48:06.240
+guy that's underneath the arrow right here is a guy who from the very beginning of the pandemic
+
+01:48:06.240 --> 01:48:13.120
+was working with George Webb and George Webb I started to notice a pattern where George Webb was
+
+01:48:13.280 --> 01:48:21.920
+taking Mark's work and kind of twisting it around making mistakes when he would report it and kind of
+
+01:48:21.920 --> 01:48:25.760
+saying the opposite of what he should have said but then still giving Mark credit for being a great
+
+01:48:25.760 --> 01:48:32.880
+journalist and I started after a while really seeing this pattern to the point where I was starting
+
+01:48:32.880 --> 01:48:37.200
+to get a little frustrated with Mark because he wouldn't see it he was just like you know you gotta
+
+01:48:37.200 --> 01:48:42.800
+use everybody and at least I get publicity from George but what I could see behind the scenes was
+
+01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:48.800
+that his association with George was discrediting him among people who already considered George
+
+01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:56.080
+Webb to be to be a Medler and so interestingly enough I'm going to keep expanding on this again
+
+01:48:56.080 --> 01:49:02.240
+but you know all of these people are connected by actually talking about the worst case scenario
+
+01:49:02.240 --> 01:49:11.120
+together on the internet and that's very extraordinary because no one should have been certain in 2020
+
+01:49:11.120 --> 01:49:17.760
+about where this was going to go where it came from or who was in trouble no one but I
+
+01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:24.800
+I think well I say jay stop jay jay because you've done it you've done a great explanation jay jay's
+
+01:49:24.800 --> 01:49:31.760
+previous recording on our rumble channel go through beautifully how jay jay crafted that so when
+
+01:49:31.760 --> 01:49:36.960
+if you've got more time worth going through because jay jay that's about an hour on that well worth
+
+01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:41.440
+understanding but it's quite question so we've got to go we've got three more questions and sorry about
+
+01:49:41.440 --> 01:49:48.480
+jay jay 20 minutes so james it's very important you understand that in the video that of jay jay
+
+01:49:48.480 --> 01:49:55.120
+in his previous presentation at last presentation he went through about 50 people from memory connected
+
+01:49:55.120 --> 01:50:02.000
+with and it and it is it's not a case of jay jay trying to cause trouble in because he keeps his
+
+01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:09.280
+but he's just it's very interesting to listen to his observations and i think
+
+01:50:09.280 --> 01:50:18.080
+would be incredibly interested james yeah agree very good um thank you thank you jim marvin marvin
+
+01:50:18.080 --> 01:50:27.280
+john tom and then steven uh jay jay i'm going to ask you one of my most compelling factoids is
+
+01:50:27.280 --> 01:50:36.560
+bill gates buying a million shares of moderna in september 2019 what what is one or two of your
+
+01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:45.120
+most compelling lies about the last three years what an interesting question that's really great
+
+01:50:45.120 --> 01:50:52.720
+so the first one that i really think is important is is the pcr as uh as a readily
+
+01:50:53.680 --> 01:51:01.040
+manufacturable product so i'm not saying that pcr didn't work before the pandemic
+
+01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:08.800
+i'm saying that making pcr into a commercial product as a diagnostic tool didn't really
+
+01:51:08.800 --> 01:51:15.280
+exist before the pandemic and making it for a coronavirus was a lie there is no such thing
+
+01:51:15.280 --> 01:51:22.000
+as a specific test for a specific coronavirus you can have a test that identifies a coronavirus
+
+01:51:22.640 --> 01:51:26.880
+but that doesn't tell you that something new is spreading around that would be the first one
+
+01:51:26.880 --> 01:51:34.560
+um the second one is definitely the prevailing narrative that we don't know if we can build
+
+01:51:34.560 --> 01:51:41.600
+natural immunity to this virus the only reason to say that is if you thought that this was some kind
+
+01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:48.240
+of some kind of toxin right or you knew that it was some kind of toxin that you didn't build
+
+01:51:48.320 --> 01:51:53.040
+immunity to that every time you were exposed to it you were going to have symptoms that's a
+
+01:51:53.040 --> 01:52:00.160
+toxin that's not a pathogen so that discussion was really rampant for the first five months and it
+
+01:52:00.160 --> 01:52:06.480
+really i really had to argue with a lot of people about the the the actual biology that would support
+
+01:52:06.480 --> 01:52:13.440
+that concept um and then i guess the last one is this idea that transfection can be immunization
+
+01:52:13.440 --> 01:52:20.240
+because it's really not and when you when you break it down they are playing a semantic game because
+
+01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:28.000
+again uh this is something that really is specific for people that worked in biology in the on the
+
+01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:36.080
+bench in universities um Marvin let me tell you that at the University of Pittsburgh it would surprise
+
+01:52:36.080 --> 01:52:45.120
+me if there are more than 10% of the active research faculty at the medical school that do not use
+
+01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:51.760
+transfection in their laboratory meaning that almost every laboratory there that's working on
+
+01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:58.960
+any animal model any human not any human any animal model of a disease any animal model
+
+01:52:59.680 --> 01:53:07.360
+of a disorder any animal investigation into the function of any system in its body or its brain
+
+01:53:08.080 --> 01:53:14.880
+is going to use transfection in order to modify that system meaning that they are going to generate
+
+01:53:14.880 --> 01:53:21.680
+a synthetic RNA in a laboratory commercial laboratory they're going to have it packaged in
+
+01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:29.920
+any number of of of transfection materials that include liposomes which are lipid nanoparticles
+
+01:53:29.920 --> 01:53:34.080
+just with a different name and then they're going to get that a commercial product they're going to
+
+01:53:34.080 --> 01:53:38.160
+bring it into their laboratory they're going to inject it in the place that they want the protein
+
+01:53:38.160 --> 01:53:44.400
+to be expressed and they will transfect the animal in the place that they want to change the protein
+
+01:53:44.400 --> 01:53:49.920
+expression they will observe the changes in the animals physiology or behavior then they will
+
+01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:54.960
+sacrifice the animal and do whatever other histology is necessary to publish the data
+
+01:53:55.600 --> 01:54:02.160
+and so every one and at every university it's the same it is a standard technique
+
+01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:11.600
+for modulating modifying moving around pushing buttons inside of a real organism is transfection
+
+01:54:11.600 --> 01:54:18.000
+and if you use RNA it's transfection if you use an adenovirus with DNA in it then it's called
+
+01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:23.840
+transformation and these products have been available for upwards of 20 years they've just
+
+01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:29.360
+become cheaper and cheaper and cheaper because it's cheaper to make this stuff and everybody
+
+01:54:29.360 --> 01:54:35.840
+that works in academic biology should have immediately said that's not a vaccine that's a
+
+01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:42.000
+transfection and the difference is again you know you can inject you can inject chemicals
+
+01:54:42.960 --> 01:54:49.440
+you can inject chemicals in your in your body and that's vaccination but if you start
+
+01:54:49.440 --> 01:54:57.360
+transfecting your cells then you're doing even more potentially bad things than vaccination
+
+01:54:57.360 --> 01:55:04.080
+could ever do because vaccination is really just toxins and proteins the toxin is the adjuvants
+
+01:55:04.640 --> 01:55:11.040
+the proteins are what and they hope that your immune system will pay attention to with transfection
+
+01:55:11.120 --> 01:55:17.680
+it's completely different in transfection they are relying on your immune system to destroy your
+
+01:55:17.680 --> 01:55:23.600
+own cells and it hopes that they won't make a mistake and the horrible part about it is Marvin
+
+01:55:23.600 --> 01:55:30.080
+is that every academic biologist should have known that we don't use transfection with the idea
+
+01:55:30.080 --> 01:55:34.720
+of augmenting an animal forever i'm going to give you the best example i've got from my work and
+
+01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:45.040
+i'll be quiet we used to use an algal protein algae an algae protein that was a sodium channel
+
+01:55:45.600 --> 01:55:51.760
+meaning that would allow sodium through if it was exposed to blue light what this means is is that
+
+01:55:51.760 --> 01:55:58.480
+if you transfected neurons in the brain of a mouse with this protein and then put a light
+
+01:55:58.480 --> 01:56:04.480
+through their skull whatever neurons were expressing the protein you could control you can turn them
+
+01:56:04.480 --> 01:56:11.600
+on or turn them off now it's important to understand this modification is only temporary
+
+01:56:12.160 --> 01:56:16.560
+and the brain and its immune system will clear those neurons out in time or those neurons will
+
+01:56:16.560 --> 01:56:23.200
+die in time so when we get a remote control mouse that does a particular behavior when we turn the
+
+01:56:23.200 --> 01:56:28.560
+blue light on that's a very simplified version of the experiment but it could work that way
+
+01:56:29.520 --> 01:56:35.520
+that mouse is not now a blue light responsive mouse for the remainder of its life and then it
+
+01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:42.720
+just goes on to to live merrily until it's dead if you transfect the brain of a mouse you have
+
+01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:47.280
+a limited period of time before those neurons will die of toxicity or the immune system will
+
+01:56:47.280 --> 01:56:52.480
+remove them and then that animal will never be the same again and your experiment will be
+
+01:56:52.480 --> 01:56:56.960
+worthless because you can't go into the brain and find out who you change because they're gone
+
+01:56:57.840 --> 01:57:06.480
+and so my point is is that this lie about transfection being a candidate for vaccination is the
+
+01:57:06.480 --> 01:57:13.040
+really diabolical lie because it's investigational vaccine maybe it will work and that's that's
+
+01:57:13.600 --> 01:57:18.320
+totally wrong we should have known that from the very beginning and every one of these damn
+
+01:57:18.320 --> 01:57:24.400
+biologists that uses it on their bench in their animals should have known that that's the reason
+
+01:57:24.480 --> 01:57:29.520
+why it's a limited a limited tool they should have known because they know for their animals
+
+01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:35.680
+saw the hell couldn't they know for grandma that's the third lie hope that was a good answer beautiful
+
+01:57:36.720 --> 01:57:43.200
+yeah well done thank you Marvin okay john Tolman then Steven let's go 10 minutes to go
+
+01:57:44.720 --> 01:57:52.960
+I just have a couple of comments to make one is kudos to dr Thorpe you know I don't hardly ever hear
+
+01:57:53.600 --> 01:57:59.120
+a doctor make a statement like that that you know there was a possibility I just want to
+
+01:57:59.120 --> 01:58:05.520
+congratulate dr Thorpe for coming out and saying what he did because you know it's hard to admit
+
+01:58:05.520 --> 01:58:12.000
+that there may be a possibility you've been miseducated or under educated and I guess it's
+
+01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:17.840
+you know what you do with that knowledge now right I wanted to say something that
+
+01:58:18.720 --> 01:58:29.200
+that I think speaks to an earlier point JJ made about us I guess getting caught up in jargon
+
+01:58:29.200 --> 01:58:35.680
+and language you have to be very careful about this you know it's kind of I pick on Jim a lot
+
+01:58:35.680 --> 01:58:42.400
+because he's caught up in the medical literature that got me all misdirected so many times I just
+
+01:58:42.400 --> 01:58:50.960
+don't really trust it anymore but I think it's an important analogy that to make about you know
+
+01:58:50.960 --> 01:58:56.720
+you think about things like chat GPT right these large language learning modules how do they
+
+01:58:56.720 --> 01:59:02.400
+really operate you know they they reduce language to a mathematical sort of algorithm that just
+
+01:59:02.960 --> 01:59:09.520
+puts things together based on how many times it's seen something put together and just that way it
+
+01:59:09.520 --> 01:59:14.560
+answers questions this way it can't really answer a question it could just kind of produce
+
+01:59:15.360 --> 01:59:24.400
+a silly answer with this mathematical model of probability right so what they fooled us into
+
+01:59:24.400 --> 01:59:31.360
+doing I think by making everybody an expert releasing all this medical jargon into the public and
+
+01:59:31.360 --> 01:59:37.040
+letting everybody use it without you know really understanding the definitions of the language
+
+01:59:37.120 --> 01:59:45.520
+that they're using it is a gigantic human version of chat GPT and I think when you look at it that
+
+01:59:45.520 --> 01:59:52.000
+way and you listen to some people speak you can almost hear this this computer putting together
+
+01:59:52.000 --> 01:59:56.640
+an answer for you I mean would you agree JJ that that's kind of the way a lot of it hits me
+
+01:59:57.360 --> 02:00:01.760
+yeah I mean I get the point you're trying to make and I think it's a valid one they
+
+02:00:02.560 --> 02:00:08.880
+they it's kind of similar to the ash conformity argument in the sense of you know
+
+02:00:10.160 --> 02:00:14.560
+if you don't get a joke you might as well laugh along and because you might get it later
+
+02:00:15.280 --> 02:00:22.240
+and I think a lot of people have been challenged so much as as Rose said to understand this biology
+
+02:00:22.240 --> 02:00:26.160
+that they kind of just go along with it because they don't understand it but they know what the
+
+02:00:26.160 --> 02:00:32.160
+right response is and they can they can fake that so you know they can go along with it and
+
+02:00:32.960 --> 02:00:37.440
+you know what an intelligent response sounds like but if it lacks intelligence they don't
+
+02:00:37.440 --> 02:00:42.560
+have a way to discern correct you know my own study of this one of the reasons why I appreciate
+
+02:00:42.560 --> 02:00:50.560
+your work so much JJ is because you know you have a way of aerodietly simplifying things
+
+02:00:51.520 --> 02:00:58.080
+you know I got more out of your lectures than a year's worth of medical study I really did so
+
+02:00:58.080 --> 02:01:05.760
+you know thanks for thanks for doing that and you know I have this other kind of opinion about
+
+02:01:05.760 --> 02:01:12.800
+why PCR was deployed aside from some of the more obvious ones that we know I think it was deployed
+
+02:01:12.800 --> 02:01:18.160
+as an effectiveness measure right to see how effective their clone deployment measures were
+
+02:01:18.160 --> 02:01:25.200
+right they want to test everything the wastewater the people the animals the air the plant they
+
+02:01:25.200 --> 02:01:32.720
+want to test everything but what is PCR you know PCR is a Xerox machine right and they're looking
+
+02:01:32.720 --> 02:01:40.480
+for evidence that their genetic spam mail is actually taking hold somewhere I'm not in the camp that
+
+02:01:40.960 --> 02:01:48.560
+is scared of any of that but I think that you know it's interesting I like that that's an
+
+02:01:48.560 --> 02:01:53.680
+interesting idea I didn't think of it that way it's cool I like that that would definitely get
+
+02:01:53.680 --> 02:01:58.160
+data from that that's actually really something I hadn't thought about that's interesting
+
+02:02:00.160 --> 02:02:06.960
+I'm I'm not it doesn't really interface well though with the with the idea of overcycling and
+
+02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:16.800
+the idea of a specificity but I do see your point yes do use yeah yeah I see it very good
+
+02:02:16.800 --> 02:02:23.120
+yeah okay that's all right thank you thank you john and everybody check out john's links to his
+
+02:02:23.120 --> 02:02:32.880
+website to further expansion of john look at just thinking tom hey jj yeah you're you seem to be on
+
+02:02:32.960 --> 02:02:38.960
+a roll I think I've watched about four twitches I think you've done maybe like all week in a row
+
+02:02:38.960 --> 02:02:45.920
+that's it's great and I know you covered that neural implant video about you know how it'd be
+
+02:02:45.920 --> 02:02:52.160
+so wonderful to have your brain monitor all the continuously but I'm going to put a bunch of
+
+02:02:52.160 --> 02:03:00.560
+questions in the chat I'm sure we only get to one or two but you recently covered that makala
+
+02:03:01.120 --> 02:03:05.520
+bombshell thing where he he basically said he didn't he wouldn't if you were a parent he would
+
+02:03:05.520 --> 02:03:13.840
+not get any jabs and then you compared that to Malone um but on a more down-to-earth
+
+02:03:14.720 --> 02:03:19.600
+issue I have this friend who's just constantly telling me so-and-so just got
+
+02:03:19.600 --> 02:03:25.440
+covid so-and-so she's very social you know yummy yummy oh three people just got covid they're
+
+02:03:25.520 --> 02:03:32.000
+using these grocery store tests and so I put a I guess it's called a covid wrap at
+
+02:03:32.000 --> 02:03:39.440
+antigen tests I put the manual in the chat um so if you can comment on that and and maybe
+
+02:03:40.800 --> 02:03:47.280
+you made some discussion about no spread in New York City or you can maybe touch on New York City
+
+02:03:47.280 --> 02:03:54.560
+and then the last thing would be the um just informing people of your idea the swarm of variants
+
+02:03:54.560 --> 02:04:02.880
+all evolving in parallel and that may be a way to debunk the idea that they're they keep deploying
+
+02:04:02.880 --> 02:04:11.600
+these new clones as variants because that seems to be in the nose too thanks yeah you bet so um
+
+02:04:11.600 --> 02:04:17.200
+when he's talking about the swarm um he's talking about a little bit of what I mentioned in my early
+
+02:04:17.200 --> 02:04:22.800
+part of the discussion where I was saying that when RNA makes a copy of itself it's never perfect
+
+02:04:23.520 --> 02:04:29.520
+and if you want to try and do an exercise in your head um to to follow along with this you have
+
+02:04:29.520 --> 02:04:35.600
+to have a little stick and this is the stick that's going to get copied and so remember that the
+
+02:04:35.600 --> 02:04:41.200
+enzyme that copies an RNA will copy it from one end to the other right and then it's got to go
+
+02:04:41.200 --> 02:04:46.000
+and back to the other end and start again it doesn't go backwards and forwards and backwards and forwards
+
+02:04:46.560 --> 02:04:53.440
+so think of the consequences of this in the cartoon of RNA replication this is the first RNA
+
+02:04:54.080 --> 02:04:59.120
+the second RNA that gets produced when this one is copied has a minimum of three errors in it
+
+02:04:59.120 --> 02:05:05.840
+because that's the nature of copying RNA the virus jumps off and now it's going to join
+
+02:05:05.840 --> 02:05:14.640
+our replicate one of the two RNA by RNAs that are present because there's the first RNA
+
+02:05:15.120 --> 02:05:20.640
+you just said the virus jumps off does that mean not the virus sorry the immune the the
+
+02:05:20.640 --> 02:05:27.760
+enzyme so if if in the replication cycle you have the first RNA and it gets copied into a second RNA
+
+02:05:27.760 --> 02:05:34.080
+but this second RNA has three errors in it minimum because of the narrownius nature of RNA dependent
+
+02:05:34.080 --> 02:05:42.160
+RNA polymerase copy so depending on which of these two RNA gets amplified you might have another
+
+02:05:43.040 --> 02:05:49.360
+RNA produced with three or four errors in it or you might have a copy of this one made that will
+
+02:05:49.360 --> 02:05:54.160
+add additional three errors from the original sequence and now you'll produce one with six
+
+02:05:55.200 --> 02:06:01.760
+and so as this goes on and on you can see that very quickly the original sequence gets lost in a
+
+02:06:01.760 --> 02:06:08.960
+swarm of variants that have point mutation scattered throughout their genome and included in that
+
+02:06:09.440 --> 02:06:14.240
+are places when the RNA polymerase just gets about halfway or third of the way and just stops
+
+02:06:15.280 --> 02:06:21.840
+and so there are in almost an infinite supply of incomplete genomes partial genome sub
+
+02:06:21.840 --> 02:06:30.800
+genomic RNAs and miscopied not miscopied but less than perfectly copied because that's the way it is
+
+02:06:30.800 --> 02:06:36.800
+swarm copies of the original virus so what I need you and everyone to start imagining is
+
+02:06:37.440 --> 02:06:45.360
+that if the if the background signal is a swarm of coronavirus is that makes everybody sick every
+
+02:06:45.360 --> 02:06:50.320
+year spreads around most of the time and most of the time our immune system ignores it but little
+
+02:06:50.320 --> 02:06:57.200
+kids get sick a lot and as we build tolerance to this whatever it is RNA signal in the background
+
+02:06:57.200 --> 02:07:02.720
+we become less sick every year and eventually we don't have common colds anymore then the point
+
+02:07:02.800 --> 02:07:10.880
+would be that if we started sequencing that background we would be sequencing the swarm
+
+02:07:10.880 --> 02:07:17.840
+and you can find lectures from Vincent Rancid yellow and other very rachen yellow you can find
+
+02:07:17.840 --> 02:07:24.640
+many lectures from virologists that discuss the swarm and how the sequence of a virus is actually
+
+02:07:24.640 --> 02:07:33.440
+a consensus sequence based on an average of all those those individual genomes that are present
+
+02:07:34.000 --> 02:07:42.160
+and aligned on a computer and decided what the average or consensus sequence is what that means
+
+02:07:42.880 --> 02:07:50.320
+is that in that huge swarm of variants every single one of the variants that we're currently
+
+02:07:50.320 --> 02:07:54.640
+tracking could have been there and they could have said okay now we're going to make it could
+
+02:07:54.640 --> 02:08:00.800
+there be could there be some geographical localization sure absolutely absolutely and then they move
+
+02:08:00.800 --> 02:08:06.960
+back and forth and whatever absolutely that that's all possible even in that dominant where one
+
+02:08:06.960 --> 02:08:12.880
+variant is dominant all the other parts of the swarm are probably there but just in a smaller
+
+02:08:12.880 --> 02:08:18.640
+and i really think that us taking their their we're taking their word for it that this particular
+
+02:08:18.640 --> 02:08:25.200
+sequence is the new dominant variant when in reality understand that they could have sampled
+
+02:08:25.200 --> 02:08:31.040
+this variation for five years before the start of the pandemic and had all the the phylogenetic
+
+02:08:31.040 --> 02:08:36.240
+tree ready to go and then said okay we're gonna say we found this one then we're gonna say we
+
+02:08:36.240 --> 02:08:42.800
+found this one then we're gonna say we found this one and for the most part the sequencing is based
+
+02:08:42.800 --> 02:08:49.360
+on the 99 primer sets that are in the sequencing reaction that is distributed so if the control
+
+02:08:49.920 --> 02:08:56.960
+of those 99 primer sets is under the control of the right people then as they want to find new
+
+02:08:56.960 --> 02:09:02.800
+variants they just change that primer set and they'll find the new variant that they already know is
+
+02:09:02.800 --> 02:09:10.080
+just waiting to be sequenced and that's what i mean by conflated background again okay any
+
+02:09:10.240 --> 02:09:16.000
+test that's the only my second question i'll stop yeah that i'm gonna can i get back can i get
+
+02:09:16.000 --> 02:09:20.640
+back to you on it because i can't see what kind it is and i'm not i don't want to make it i'll
+
+02:09:20.640 --> 02:09:26.000
+say something really dumb accidentally but i'll definitely get back to thank you thank you you're
+
+02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:33.680
+welcome all right john just your quick question before we go to the last bit yeah jj have you
+
+02:09:34.160 --> 02:09:40.080
+looked into any of the ramblings of Harold Krause Bella can you say that name again
+
+02:09:41.280 --> 02:09:47.600
+Harold Krause Bella you know i'll put it in the chat thank you um i don't want to waste a lot
+
+02:09:47.600 --> 02:09:53.440
+of time on this this guy has you know an overarching cosmology that is a little bit distracting but
+
+02:09:54.480 --> 02:09:59.840
+he is pretty brilliant and you know he explains a lot of things that i think are open questions
+
+02:09:59.920 --> 02:10:03.680
+that we have but he engages with that biophotonics
+
+02:10:05.920 --> 02:10:11.680
+line of thinking and pretty much ties together a tremendous number of variable they've got a
+
+02:10:11.680 --> 02:10:17.280
+whole library of this guy talking but if you've never heard of them just maybe watch that one
+
+02:10:17.280 --> 02:10:23.600
+it's a little long but see what jumps out at you at that maybe the next time you know you talk to
+
+02:10:23.600 --> 02:10:29.840
+us you might be able to expound a little bit on that see what there is useful okay i'll check
+
+02:10:29.840 --> 02:10:36.400
+it out i'm a little nervous but i'll definitely check it out okay okay thanks john now before we
+
+02:10:36.400 --> 02:10:43.760
+go to you steven jj i have one thing i want to bring to i want to raise and that's this book
+
+02:10:46.080 --> 02:10:48.800
+slow death by rubber duck oh nice what's that
+
+02:10:49.680 --> 02:10:57.680
+essentially by two Australian researchers published 10 some 10 years ago slow death by rubber duck
+
+02:10:57.680 --> 02:11:04.720
+everybody and in fact the year of publication was dah dah dah dah dah
+
+02:11:07.120 --> 02:11:15.680
+it just shows you know how to get bloody publication dates on i read 2009 so 14 years old now the
+
+02:11:15.760 --> 02:11:21.840
+point about this is that you kill your child by giving them rubber ducks to chew on
+
+02:11:24.160 --> 02:11:30.560
+why slow death by rubber duck two University of Queensland researchers who said i wonder what
+
+02:11:30.560 --> 02:11:39.920
+my child is chewing on and this book articulates there's over 80 000 synthetic chemicals that are
+
+02:11:39.920 --> 02:11:46.480
+are in products and a number of our members our participants have commented on you have also
+
+02:11:46.480 --> 02:11:54.640
+jj made this distinction between toxicity and pathogens this book i recommend it to all of you
+
+02:11:54.640 --> 02:12:01.040
+very readable very enjoyable 80 000 synthetic chemicals less than five percent of them have
+
+02:12:01.040 --> 02:12:08.800
+been tested for safety okay and then we've got you we've got elik zek who gave us a slide and i
+
+02:12:08.800 --> 02:12:16.240
+remind all of you with this slide with 37 symptoms of toxicity that are identical to covid
+
+02:12:16.240 --> 02:12:25.680
+and common cold and flu symptoms and so everybody whilst we talk about common cold are you sure
+
+02:12:25.680 --> 02:12:30.800
+you're not being poisoned and many of us on this call would say yes we are and what i'm jj you
+
+02:12:30.800 --> 02:12:40.160
+you're a wonderful exposition and and this since 1970 my naturopath 1970 when i have a cold my
+
+02:12:40.160 --> 02:12:50.240
+father would say i'm i don't have a cold i am eliminating and so these symptoms from a disease
+
+02:12:50.240 --> 02:12:55.360
+versus getting slow death by rubber duck everybody jj just bring it to your attention
+
+02:12:55.520 --> 02:13:01.360
+nice thank you go into it but jump but the toxicity versus an infection stay the last
+
+02:13:01.360 --> 02:13:07.600
+questions to you for the next few minutes so jj this is a really important question now so
+
+02:13:08.240 --> 02:13:14.080
+um i've been thinking about it a lot over the past three months um but it's kind of coming to a
+
+02:13:14.080 --> 02:13:20.720
+head and so i don't want to kind of talk about me but i was involved together with other doctors
+
+02:13:21.360 --> 02:13:28.720
+in a massive fight with the british government over uh dr david kelly and so we had a massive
+
+02:13:28.720 --> 02:13:37.520
+information we we became experts we were told this by the daily mail and um the top three people at
+
+02:13:37.520 --> 02:13:44.080
+the daily mail one of them was the godfather of fleet street uh so-called hall daker and
+
+02:13:44.160 --> 02:13:52.800
+we became experts we we fought a very tight campaign without lawyers we we were on our own
+
+02:13:52.800 --> 02:13:58.480
+and uh we got letters published in six letters published in the guardian one in the new states
+
+02:13:58.480 --> 02:14:06.960
+one the one in the new states one i think cost the editor his job um unfortunately um but anyway
+
+02:14:06.960 --> 02:14:14.640
+pointed to this we then got the best lawyers in the united kingdom liday in london the human
+
+02:14:14.640 --> 02:14:20.400
+rights lawyers claimants only they were the the government the british government tried to take
+
+02:14:21.040 --> 02:14:30.480
+liday out because they had a thousand clients in iraq and there was a four-year uh um investigation
+
+02:14:30.480 --> 02:14:37.680
+of liday this huge uh london firm uh on behalf of the british government by the solicitors regulatory
+
+02:14:37.680 --> 02:14:44.720
+authority anyway the point was that we got these lawyers on board we didn't even know we were
+
+02:14:44.720 --> 02:14:50.640
+going to be litigants but we did become litigants but we didn't realize it there was so brilliant
+
+02:14:51.600 --> 02:14:57.600
+and one of the brilliant things they did um so there was one lawyer in particular called
+
+02:14:57.600 --> 02:15:05.520
+francis swain and she was absolutely brilliant um but she was incredibly modest that's probably
+
+02:15:05.520 --> 02:15:14.800
+why she was so brilliant and she was the kind of chosen one if you like of uh martin day of liday
+
+02:15:14.800 --> 02:15:24.480
+so he was the kind of uh formed the company with lee leige his name was martin day it took me four
+
+02:15:24.640 --> 02:15:30.400
+there were four recommendations to get to him and then he immediately got francis swain
+
+02:15:30.400 --> 02:15:35.360
+swain because i thought it would be martin day taking charge of this very important case
+
+02:15:36.000 --> 02:15:42.800
+and it was francis swain so then i'm not sure it was her idea but it probably was her idea
+
+02:15:43.440 --> 02:15:50.560
+she instructed a lawyer on the on our behalf because he had all this information very like now
+
+02:15:51.520 --> 02:15:59.200
+and so the strategy was this a brilliant strategy i've forgotten about it and it's what we should
+
+02:15:59.200 --> 02:16:04.720
+do in my opinion i hope that you'll agree and if you do then we need to work together to identify
+
+02:16:05.760 --> 02:16:12.080
+exactly what they honed in on and what they honed in on so they knew we'd formed a very tight campaign
+
+02:16:12.080 --> 02:16:18.640
+concentrating on the medicine always making points that we knew that they couldn't answer
+
+02:16:18.720 --> 02:16:24.240
+and that's exactly what happened and so a lot of people said oh we didn't succeed in getting a
+
+02:16:25.440 --> 02:16:30.640
+uh an inquest but in the end we didn't need an inquest because actually what we were trying to
+
+02:16:30.640 --> 02:16:36.480
+do was change public opinion from dr david kelly according to the british government having committed
+
+02:16:36.480 --> 02:16:44.720
+suicide and changing that public opinion to oh he was bumped off which is what people say now
+
+02:16:44.720 --> 02:16:51.600
+who wants it and so what the lord lawyer this lawyer i think was francis swain she brilliantly
+
+02:16:51.600 --> 02:16:59.440
+honed in on instructing a barrister called richard herma and the tactics seem to be to me
+
+02:17:00.160 --> 02:17:06.880
+but i'm not sure i never had it confirmed but uh they wanted a barrister a very able barrister
+
+02:17:07.440 --> 02:17:15.120
+but a hungry barrister i.e. someone who was going to be qc in the next two or three years you know
+
+02:17:15.120 --> 02:17:23.360
+qc's queens council now king's council so richard herma fitted the bill he was absolutely brilliant
+
+02:17:24.000 --> 02:17:31.920
+and his his task was to identify the single point weakest point of the british government when it
+
+02:17:32.000 --> 02:17:39.280
+came to dr david kelly and to identify what it was and also that point had to be
+
+02:17:40.480 --> 02:17:48.640
+understood by the people very importantly and so what he came up with out of this massive
+
+02:17:48.640 --> 02:17:55.680
+information much a bit medical well a lot of a lot of it medical and uh about coroner's law and
+
+02:17:55.760 --> 02:18:02.080
+inquests he said that the single most important point out of all the many points which could be
+
+02:18:02.080 --> 02:18:08.160
+made and the one that the lawyers and we should concentrate on was that it was not possible
+
+02:18:08.800 --> 02:18:18.560
+to bleed to death from an owner archery which is the small archery on the on the medial aspect of
+
+02:18:18.560 --> 02:18:26.800
+the ventral surface of the wrist and that was a brilliant strategy because they were
+
+02:18:26.800 --> 02:18:33.120
+stumped before but they were really stumped when they had to argue against that so my question to
+
+02:18:33.120 --> 02:18:42.400
+you is jjj what is the biggest lie and secondly what is the part of the narrative that they're
+
+02:18:42.400 --> 02:18:48.240
+most vulnerable to attack on and unable to defend himself because that was the case with the
+
+02:18:49.120 --> 02:18:57.040
+bleeding to death from from a severed owner archery oh that's that's a tricky question yeah
+
+02:18:58.000 --> 02:19:03.280
+it's a tricky question um i don't know if i have the right answer off the top of my head but my gut
+
+02:19:03.280 --> 02:19:11.760
+says that um michael eden would agree with me that that vulnerability is the story of an RNA
+
+02:19:11.760 --> 02:19:17.280
+based pandemic so the story that we have to accept and we're going to go along with their
+
+02:19:17.280 --> 02:19:23.360
+story is that there wasn't something there and then in the end of 2019 there was something in a point
+
+02:19:24.160 --> 02:19:29.920
+that then spread from that point around the world on airplanes and is continuing to spread
+
+02:19:29.920 --> 02:19:38.400
+around the world now i really think that is the the giant lie because that's not a small lie that's
+
+02:19:38.480 --> 02:19:45.360
+a magnificently gigantic massive lie about the potential for RNA to replicate and
+
+02:19:46.560 --> 02:19:50.880
+so i think that's where they're the most vulnerable that's where the public understand that that's
+
+02:19:50.880 --> 02:19:55.680
+that's the that's the point i don't think that it's impossible for the public to understand that
+
+02:19:55.680 --> 02:20:00.720
+yes they're going to resist and yes the tv will will tell the public that they can't possibly
+
+02:20:00.720 --> 02:20:06.560
+understand it but it's a very simple explanation that gets simpler every time i give it and i don't
+
+02:20:06.560 --> 02:20:12.000
+think that anybody that's really interested if you start with as this is michael eden's strategy
+
+02:20:12.560 --> 02:20:18.080
+start with they lied and then when people are curious enough to say what did they lie about
+
+02:20:18.080 --> 02:20:26.000
+start with the fidelity of RNA the idea that an RNA molecule if granted the right sequence
+
+02:20:26.000 --> 02:20:32.400
+can replicate with high fidelity and go around the world that infect millions of people in a way
+
+02:20:33.040 --> 02:20:39.200
+that it's never happened before not even close not even if you give them three orders of magnitude
+
+02:20:39.200 --> 02:20:46.320
+it's still never happened and so it's i think that that's where i got with my friend just the
+
+02:20:46.320 --> 02:20:50.400
+other day who came into town who hadn't heard me and didn't know where i was working okay jib what
+
+02:20:50.400 --> 02:20:56.560
+about they think that's where you start what there was no diagnosis covid-19 because that stops people
+
+02:20:56.560 --> 02:21:00.480
+in the tracks i've tried and steven hang on hang on hang on hang on we're we're now you've got the
+
+02:21:00.480 --> 02:21:05.760
+answer it's a great answer steven stick with that answer right because i like that's a great thing
+
+02:21:05.760 --> 02:21:10.080
+for us because that's what i had questioned that's what marvin passed it's not just one answer to
+
+02:21:10.080 --> 02:21:15.600
+this we need to discuss no no you asked for an answer he gave you one answer yeah you know and
+
+02:21:15.600 --> 02:21:20.000
+and it's it's it's tied because we're gonna have not half an hour for another conversation but it's
+
+02:21:20.000 --> 02:21:27.200
+a great question and so let's stick with that gosh how would we explain that steven what jj is
+
+02:21:27.200 --> 02:21:32.480
+saying he says it's getting simpler each time because i take your point the tip of the spear
+
+02:21:32.480 --> 02:21:38.960
+the david kelly metaphor is an excellent one for us absolutely all right steven one more minute one
+
+02:21:38.960 --> 02:21:43.360
+more jj if you've got a second one that steven wants that's exactly what i was going to ask him
+
+02:21:43.360 --> 02:21:49.280
+next one what's that you want a second one that their boner one yeah well second then the second
+
+02:21:49.360 --> 02:21:53.920
+one is their their ridiculous model of immunity that has to do with anybody's floating in your
+
+02:21:53.920 --> 02:21:59.760
+blood so we just have to challenge people to understand how dumb that is and why that was
+
+02:21:59.760 --> 02:22:06.960
+inserted already decades ago but but the point that the thing i'd like just like to say is that
+
+02:22:06.960 --> 02:22:14.800
+people are so wedded even in this group to having had covid 19 they're shocked when when a doctor
+
+02:22:14.800 --> 02:22:22.480
+turned round for example and says there was no reliable diagnosis covid 19 and that it was a
+
+02:22:22.480 --> 02:22:29.840
+fraud the whole thing that there was no symptom which was pathognomonic for covid 19 and there was
+
+02:22:29.840 --> 02:22:36.640
+the pcr test of course was a joke and should never have been deployed so then shocked when i as a
+
+02:22:36.640 --> 02:22:43.360
+medical doctor say and look them in the eye and say i'm sorry i know you want to want to stick with
+
+02:22:43.360 --> 02:22:49.200
+that story that you've had covid 19 but there was no diagnosis of covid 19 in my opinion right
+
+02:22:49.200 --> 02:22:55.440
+i just think the the danger of that is is that the planners of this orchestration have thought
+
+02:22:55.440 --> 02:23:01.200
+of that already and they have done something so the question is like Jim earlier said did they
+
+02:23:01.200 --> 02:23:07.280
+release a bacterial pathogen that caused respiratory disease and then said it was a coronavirus and
+
+02:23:07.280 --> 02:23:12.480
+sampled from a conflated background signal or did they use clones to make people sick
+
+02:23:13.040 --> 02:23:19.360
+that part of the crime we don't know but there's a lot of people who had something at the same
+
+02:23:19.360 --> 02:23:26.480
+time as other people had something and i don't necessarily say that you're wrong and that is it
+
+02:23:26.480 --> 02:23:32.560
+JJ points i'm trying to make is that this tactic this strategy came from one of the most brilliant
+
+02:23:32.560 --> 02:23:38.720
+lawyers in the world and that's why i'm arguing that if you try to make people say that what they
+
+02:23:38.800 --> 02:23:45.040
+experienced isn't what they experienced that's more challenging than to say they lied and that
+
+02:23:45.040 --> 02:23:50.480
+they lied about this biology of our day that's what i mean because you can get there later we're
+
+02:23:50.480 --> 02:23:55.760
+going so what i'm trying to do is highlight the strategy in your mind that yes i get it
+
+02:23:56.640 --> 02:24:02.960
+if we can work on that he's got it JJ thank you so much you're very welcome no we could go for
+
+02:24:02.960 --> 02:24:08.080
+another four hours we cleave but you should be pleased JJ next time you come on you can do a
+
+02:24:08.080 --> 02:24:12.960
+five-minute intro we'll hit the questions going without any drama so at least at least we've got
+
+02:24:12.960 --> 02:24:17.600
+some of your knowledge to handle our difficult questions steven thank you for organizing
+
+02:24:17.600 --> 02:24:24.320
+JJ thank you for jumping in at the last a minute and thanks everybody for participation for your
+
+02:24:24.320 --> 02:24:32.320
+insights for thoughts for provocative thoughts um we fight the fight and JJ i was was saying this
+
+02:24:32.320 --> 02:24:38.720
+is a six-year war world war three someone with spiritual information says now it's a seven-year
+
+02:24:38.720 --> 02:24:43.680
+war so we're three and a half years into a seven-year war so everybody just get rejuvenated
+
+02:24:43.680 --> 02:24:49.120
+steven with a three and a half more years of these meetings okay everybody enjoy all right thanks
+
+02:24:49.120 --> 02:24:57.200
+for being here bye thank you so much thank you and everybody else thank you JJ while it's funny
+
+02:24:57.200 --> 02:25:02.960
+you said that uh charles about seven years check out revelation not
+
+02:25:03.600 --> 02:25:10.560
+it was a great way to hear it all right i just signed off thank you guys for sitting in um i hope
+
+02:25:10.560 --> 02:25:14.320
+i'm going to be able to hang out with my friend tonight and that means i won't stream later this
+
+02:25:14.320 --> 02:25:19.760
+was my stream for today um i apologize for the short notice i got called at the last minute because
+
+02:25:20.560 --> 02:25:26.720
+um david martin decided not to show up um it was an impromptu little thing i don't know how far off
+
+02:25:26.720 --> 02:25:35.280
+the rails i sounded um but anyway thanks for joining me i'll stream this song out um and i will
+
+02:25:35.280 --> 02:25:42.880
+see you guys again tomorrow um i probably won't do two hours and 24 minutes tomorrow but i had to
+
+02:25:42.880 --> 02:25:58.800
+do that when i get get off for a guide platform so thanks very much guys for for being here
+
+02:26:12.880 --> 02:26:27.760
+so
+
+02:26:42.880 --> 02:26:49.880
+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
+
+02:26:49.880 --> 02:26:52.880
+Stop lying!
+
+02:26:52.880 --> 02:26:56.880
+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
+
+02:26:56.880 --> 02:27:01.880
+Stop lying! Stop lying!
+
+02:27:01.880 --> 02:27:05.880
+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
+
+02:27:05.880 --> 02:27:10.880
+Stop lying! Stop lying!
+
+02:27:10.880 --> 02:27:19.880
+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
+
+02:27:19.880 --> 02:27:20.880
+Stop lying!
+
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+No. It might not be the most beautiful sound, but there's no noise. There's no none of
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+that static key stuff we used to get. So that's good. All right. Here comes J.J. Kui PhD.
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+And this is my first time meeting him, so... Oh, I... You were on my show, you crazy man.
+
+00:36.080 --> 00:46.280
+No, not at all, just a pinger, too, on the email and the chat, that's all.
+
+00:46.280 --> 00:53.440
+What you talking about, Willis? You were on my show. Who, me? Yeah, you. Yeah. You were
+
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+on his show. You were on my show. Are you serious? Yeah, you're a crazy old man, but that's
+
+00:58.560 --> 01:05.960
+all right. I like that. That's funny. Hey, I might be crazy, but I'm not old. Very good.
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+01:05.960 --> 01:15.440
+No, no way. Well, I was on your show. Why was I on your show? I interviewed you. That's
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+01:15.440 --> 01:24.080
+why you crazy person. That's right. It wasn't a very memorable interview, apparently, but that's
+
+01:24.080 --> 01:29.280
+okay. I don't take any insults. I'm a terrible interviewer. Oh, it's just, you know what it is.
+
+01:29.280 --> 01:34.320
+It's we doing, you know, sometimes we do two shows a day, you work in your ass off some of my,
+
+01:34.320 --> 01:38.560
+I'm sorry, I forgot about it. Do I need to turn on some more light? That doesn't look very good to me.
+
+01:39.520 --> 01:44.160
+See your something to see your face a little better would be would be nice.
+
+01:46.080 --> 01:54.640
+And that looks like the gig at home studio. Mm hmm. Yes. Now, what would you like me to call you
+
+01:54.640 --> 01:59.280
+Jay? Is it Jay? Is that what you like? Jay is fine with me. Yeah, if you want to get funny,
+
+01:59.280 --> 02:05.200
+you can say Dr. Jay, but I I prefer Jay. It's fine. Don't I don't take that seriously.
+
+02:06.000 --> 02:09.920
+What about professor? I don't guess you know, it doesn't work. I'm not a professor anymore.
+
+02:10.560 --> 02:15.680
+Well, what Dr. what Dr. bike rider? Dr. bike rider. That's good. There you go.
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+02:16.560 --> 02:21.200
+All right. Well, gentlemen, it's your time. You ready? We are. Okay. I think.
+
+02:25.200 --> 02:27.120
+All right. Comes to the funky music.
+
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+Dr.
+
+03:01.760 --> 03:04.720
+And hello, everybody.
+
+03:04.720 --> 03:10.480
+I'm John O'Loughlin. Welcome to McDuff lives and it's Wednesday night. It's a Wednesday night trio
+
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+and tonight it's my great pleasure to introduce a new trio with J. J. Cooey PhD, Mark Koolack of
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+Whosetonic Live and Myself and I'm really, really excited to get together with you guys. I've
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+actually been looking forward to this for about four months now and I'll tell you what really got
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+me going was the infectious clone hypothesis that J. J. Cooey publishes on his gigaome biological
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+channel on Twitch and I think that the presentation that he's done is tremendous and helps me to
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+understand things that I just couldn't understand before but it makes a lot of sense to me so I
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+want to talk about that tonight. I also want to say to Mark Koolack that Mark Koolack has really
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+been blowing my mind with all of his work for about four years now but in terms of
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+the the current alleged pandemic or whatever you want to call it, the work that you did
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+and others but exposing the Snohomish County man thing really is a way to open the discussion I
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+think with people that are not familiar with how fishy this whole thing really is.
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+So to start with the Snohomish County man and that really kind of broke down my resistance to
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+opposing the authorities in this thing, now we have comes along J. Cooey with his infectious
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+clones theory which I have tried to put together in a podcast of my own to try to you know tell
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+my subscribers what it's like and I don't know how well I did but what I want to do tonight is to
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+try to verify my work and try to push forward in in illuminating this to everybody else.
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+So infectious clones I I googled it I don't know if either of you ever googled infectious clones
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+but what came up was some virology studies about plants about tobacco and stuff that where they
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+say oh yeah we we have to have infectious clones we use them to study these viruses because
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+these viruses are ephemeral these viruses are mRNA viruses and that is JJ and Mark have been
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+pounding in this for years now is now clearly not a perfect copy and so JJ's work in exposing
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+that the the metaphor that he uses of a original being copied onto a CD and then the CD gets
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+copied onto a bunch of cassette tapes and if you've ever had that experience you know that by the
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+time it's on a cassette tape it's it's degraded great deal and that hope and that's the metaphor
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+that I like to think of in terms of wow they can make something maybe infectious
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+but it's not going to be infectious forever it's going to it's that lifestyle that lifetime is
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+going to be limited by the fact that it's RNA and not DNA which DNA would last a lot longer.
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+So this is where I am kind of jumping off from those two big illuminations for me
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+the Snohomish County man the story and and so much flaky stuff between then and now where they
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+you know I mean if they really wanted to to do some contract contact tracing from Snohomish
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+County man they should have started by getting his address his phone number and his date of birth
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+but they didn't even do that. Well guys let me turn it over to you and ask you if I've made a fair
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+summary of what we've been what I've been talking about so far and and and maybe start with Mark
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+since Mark you've been the Snohomish County man for me. Absolutely I think that's a it's a good start
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+and it's a so to summarize or a one review is that you're willing to your you are in the act
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+in the process of revisiting the the official narrative explanation of what happened
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+and possibly even questioning some of the or the primary alternative narrative which has been
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+packaged up for us and maybe you're considering the possibility that it could be maybe somewhere in
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+the middle that they're trying to come up with an explanation actually satisfies all of the data
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+that you are or the evidence that is before you and before everyone else and this is a an
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+important time because people in your situation right now are encouraged to ask I think sometimes
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+the wrong questions which lead people right back into it's going to be one thing or another thing
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+I'll review Snohomish County man in a second but you know one of them for example would be
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+I mean I'll let Jay handle the the the erroneous approach of do viruses exist but another one is
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+was there any pandemic and that's a tricky question to answer because I think when someone says no
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+which I agree with but you have to then say that doesn't mean if there's no pandemic that doesn't
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+mean there was there was no excess death there's a big difference there and it can be it can very
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+easily sound like if someone were to say well I don't think the conditions of a pandemic of
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+iris which was spreading endlessly from person to person around the globe was really happening
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+you immediately get put into a box of I guess you assume that no one died right and of course that's
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+not what the person who goes there would be saying so we've been encouraged to ask I think
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+sometimes the wrong question first and which just leads us back into camp A or camp B and
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+avoids the the critical thinking in the middle which really help us sort things out that's exactly
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+where I think I think that Jay's work comes in because then you have the I think his name was
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+Giordano the kind of military Syop guy that's telling everybody well here's here's how you can
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+freak out the entire world you know you can make them all think that there's a there's a pandemic
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+that suddenly appeared you know that everybody's going to be sick you know and there's going to be
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+bodies on the streets and here's how we do it and he's this guy named Giordano who Jay has
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+reported on and so I think that is that's the way I would dispel that stuff mark would be to say
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+10:27.520 --> 10:34.320
+well look I mean listen to what Jay has to say let's let's turn to that Jay let's go ahead
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+and and and and kind of introduce or or tell me how did I do in trying to explain the basics of
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+your hypothesis well I'm actually really impressed that Google was so confessional
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+and forthright with with the truth and I find it very nice that you you use the word ephemeral
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+because I think for the most part virology in the 70s and 80s was really the study of
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+something very ephemeral and they all understood that and it was uh it was often a joke you know
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+everybody uh joking about studying virology was joking about studying things that you can't study
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+and so it's uh I think it's a very very exciting time if you if you if you want my honest opinion
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+because it's the truth in this particular scenario is so some authors use the word acidic to describe
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+a truth that kind of dissolves all the other stuff that's around it and this truth that RNA
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+has a sort of limited fidelity and a limited lifespan and a sort of limited utility as for
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+transmitting information um and these limitations and how they play into the viral dynamics of things
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+before the pandemic versus after um we have been given this incredibly simplified cartoon
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+of how a virus works where you know variants can sweep the planet and the planet changes color
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+and then it changes color again as delta takes over whatever and this kind of of behavior has
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+never been observed before this kind of fidelity has never been observed before this kind of coverage
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+by a a single RNA molecules never been it's never been documented before and yet we're just supposed
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+to believe this because everybody is very united in how they insist that it's true and I think
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+that's the trick is that as long as people just hold that line there's going to be a good portion
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+of people that aren't going to be able to penetrate that consensus um with regard to so
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+how much county man I think mark and I story really tied so nicely together because
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+the biology of coronavirus as you describe for tobacco mosaic viruses is very similar it's an
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+ephemeral thing usually what they can do is they can find a sequence in the wild but beyond that
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+maybe they can culture it for a little while enough to get enough material which permits the
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+sequencing but at some point in time they need to go back to this DNA template generate enough
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+of that DNA to convert to RNA and then they can repeat the experiment over and over with the same
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+you know baseline RNA starting point but if you're starting from the wild you're always starting
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+from something new and so that's why for example if you look at the the coronavirus literature before
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+the pandemic you will find that the mass majority of the way the methodology that they found coronavirus
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+was to look for a single gene the RNA dependent RNA polymerase and if they found that gene then in
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+that same sample they would use a bunch of random primers to try and amplify everything that was
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+in there and then try to match it up with other known coronavirus genes but it was already assumed
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+that there was a coronavirus in there if they found this extremely conserved RNA dependent RNA
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+polymerase and so the way that we found coronaviruses and the way that we identified them before the
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+pandemic was so different and so less specific and so much more broad stroke meaning let's just find
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+it never mind trying to say which one it is and this level of or sorry this lack of fidelity is
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+just evident for all of the years before the pandemic and then suddenly there's this switch
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+to an insistence that not only can we detect them with high fidelity but any company can put
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+together a product which can replicate this extremely exquisite detection method which
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+one of the frustrations I have to confess is that that's what they bold us over with right because
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+with the Sohomish County man and I think this is where Mark and I really connected the Sohomish
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+County man and I want Mark to come back in here in a minute because I'm going to miss a lot of
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+these details the Sohomish County man checks every virology box he was a guy who wasn't that sick
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+didn't really need to go to the hospital when he came to the hospital he wasn't dying they took
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+a sample of him and lo and behold it grew in a dish which is really rare for coronavirus and
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+especially rare if the person isn't vomiting by viral load right obviously he wasn't sick so
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+did he have much we don't know but enough for them to grow and sequence and it happened in a place
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+where a guy was already ready with some kind of nanoparticle and was already ready with this
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+computer program to take the sequence that came out of this random guy that they just let
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+leave the hospital and and this sequence was turned into a vaccine candidate in like a week
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+and so this all occurs just kind of lucky we got a three-dimensional reconstruction of the spike
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+protein which showed a novel fear and cleavage site and a guy who was ready to make a vaccine
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+and a patient that just happened to have the perfectly culturable virus that matched the
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+lulon sequence i might have missed something but i mean is that not a wonderful confluence of details
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+well let me just let me just get one clarification and i never have understood the word primer could
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+you tell us please what that is sure um if you uh do i have this um if you i'm going to do it really
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+quick if you um if you sequence uh a RNA sequence think of it like a sentence um so think of the
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+sentence like the quick brown the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog um and if you take that
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+sentence then the primers would be the in the beginning of the thing and it would be uh g o d
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+at the end dog and so those two primers would stick to the beginning of the sentence in the end of
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+the sentence and allow an enzyme to copy the sentence from the end to the beginning or from the beginning
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+to the end and so the primers are the two short RNA sequences that you're using to probe your sample
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+and you hope that they'll bind to RNA and the sample and create a double-stranded RNA that
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+can be copied and that's kind of a simplification actually there's going to be some molecular
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+biologists they're going to say he doesn't know what he's talking about so let me let me back that
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+up a minute the RNA in any sample is first converted to DNA and that conversion is done with reverse
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+transcriptase so then you have DNA fragments which are it are complementary to the RNA that was in
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+your original sample then you use primers to find those DNA copies of the RNA in the original sample
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+and those DNA fragments are amplified by your primers and your primers need to be specific for
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+that DNA but essentially what you're doing is you're designing primers which will be the beginning
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+or end words of the coronavirus gene that you're looking to find and that's how you're you're trying
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+to find these different molecular signals regardless of what you're using PCR to find
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+the primers are the two the two sequences that you're using to probe all of the DNA that's in your sample
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+while that was a long explanation that was a terrible answer i'm sorry but you know i i thought
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+i i'd force you to do it because i've heard that word so many times and you're the man so i took
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+advantage no no no problem all right do you want it to get back to mark yeah so the so how much
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+county man i mean how many other things were tied up in that guy well there's never been a photo of
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+him other than somebody in one of the the bubble cards um his name has never been released all we
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+know he was a 35 year old male that was returning from Wuhan and he returned on i think it was
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+that was the dates uh it was it was January 15th it was January 15th i think um and uh and
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+yeah he returned on January the 15th the United States like just before there was some i think
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+they started talking about some travel restrictions or something like that and
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+uh he has no family in the United States no relatives no roommates we don't know where he
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+works um uh he went to the hospital uh three days after he came back uh started to say he
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+experienced symptoms uh of course there was a regional person that had some good cdc connection
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+instead immediately identified oh no this might be related to that weird thing that's happening
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+in china so he was checked into the hospital i think on the 18th there's a crazy story of as uh
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+of a sample uh that was taken from him for the virus right uh which somehow wound up getting to
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+uh either Bethesda or Atlanta for uh analysis uh by eight a.m. the following morning even though
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+there were no direct flights um there's no way that a package could have gotten from that area to
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+Atlanta not to mention if he had the most contagious virus that the world has ever seen
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+how did he fly from Wuhan to Seattle not get anyone sick there's no direct flights from Wuhan to
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+Seattle which means he took at least one of the connecting flight and not one other person got
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+sick and his whole time at the hospital no one got sick from him and then he just disappeared
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+into the wilderness the snowmish county man i just remembered maybe it was the remdesivir they
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+used on him well he just happened to have absolutely textbook textbook symptoms textbook description
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+of what coronavirus was everything started to get worse exactly the perfect time uh and he was the
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+first person that was approved to have compassionate use of uh remdesivir uh multiple names for
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+involved in that i know cena bovari was one though and then he had an absolutely perfect 100
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+recovery after taking remdesivir 100 perfect recovery um and that speaks a lot for the power
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+of remdesivir yeah well uh this is this is this is serious job because i mean they should get they
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+should get this guy and make an ad with him the serious part is the fact that they had one anecdotal
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+data point right now one point was enough to start trials and that the trials if the trials
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+weren't going well they would actually stop trials and say well these trials maybe this one over here
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+isn't going so well but you know it worked with the the phantom snowmish county man
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+and then and then just one thing led to the next uh and then a computer spat out remdesivir
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+somehow with the defense reduction agency and lo and behold it became the only thing that had
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+any evidence of uh of providing therapeutic value so uh i think that there is because we're in
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+rumble we could speak a bit more freely i think it's a possibility that this guy either was a myth
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+or and this is a far this is a far-flung conspiracy all right
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+there was a 35 year old scientist in china doctor wane lee wane laying i i forget the fellow's name
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+who was credited as being uh one of the greatest heroes since gondi because he blew the whistle on
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+the risk of uh of coronavirus in china right and i guess he was arrested and imprisoned
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+this 35 year old chinese guy that eventually died in the hospital was never seen after the time
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+that the 35 year old snowmish county man appeared i suspect that they took this doctor who would
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+have known how to describe a textbook case of coronavirus flew him to seattle and then he was
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+in the bubble wrap and then when he was done alone he's off with a new identity i i i would bet
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+i would bet a lot of money on that or he's dead
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+and uh there was uh there was some legislators uh some congressmen or women i uh who in the
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+united states who actually wanted to rename a street after that chinese scientist they held
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+them in such high regard wow so so the snow homage county man's story is it is it's an exceptional
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+story it's because it provided anecdotal evidence of medicine which wound up i think having lethal
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+results for probably tens of thousands if not over a hundred thousand people just within the
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+united states it sounds funny you can i i laugh when i tell it but it the consequences of this
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+stuff has been incredibly serious not to mention if we are to believe that some of the
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+additional therapy you know let's just say transfections or countermeasures being used
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+are only being used because of the perceived risk of covid yeah that would also mean that
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+all of those injuries and deaths are also ultimately the responsibility of whoever
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+overhyped the risk of this thing so i'm always cautious about answering the question of was
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+25:23.760 --> 25:29.360
+there a pandemic like well the best of my knowledge there really were a lot of excess deaths what was
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+it because an RNA virus just spun around the world and then and then what add to add one thing to
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+what jay said about this whole concept of virus mutation and i always joke about this one too
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+25:42.640 --> 25:49.360
+you hear uh these phrases of the oh uh the on the cron now is the big thing or delta is going wild
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+right and consider the fact that we're told that viruses always mutate they're mutating all the
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+time every second they're mutating they're always going in different directions and they're always
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+selecting based upon virulence and and lethality etc yet somehow at the snap of a finger
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+all the viruses mutate to one specific thing overnight sort of like everyone waking up with red
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+hair in the morning even though they didn't even have another generation these narratives john
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+26:24.800 --> 26:33.600
+are so absurd and and hilarious uh it's i'm it is actually quite offensive that you don't i don't
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+26:33.600 --> 26:40.640
+see more people even in the supposed truth community calling this stuff out but i uh i think uh i think
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+jay should pick it up from here well that's what we're trying to do and we're trying to give some
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+some uh you know i'm trying to do an hour show here which people can latch on to and say oh i get
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+it now you know and so i want to get back to jay and a couple of points uh i don't want to
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+to omit his point your point jay about the uh test i guess the pcr test is what we're talking
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+about uh not being specific to any particular coronavirus and are you with me can you hear me
+
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+i am here sorry i'm just focusing another camera because i'm anticipating you're gonna want me to
+
+27:22.080 --> 27:28.880
+draw it's okay go ahead okay well yeah maybe maybe that would help but where i'm going with this is
+
+27:28.880 --> 27:37.440
+is about the uh mark was talking about Snohomish county man on on january 16th 17th uh uh things
+
+27:37.440 --> 27:45.200
+happening then but that very weakened a doctor in germany named christian drosston
+
+27:48.240 --> 27:57.680
+announced that he had created a modification of the standard pcr test that would specifically find
+
+27:57.680 --> 28:11.840
+the uh covid 19 sars covid to coronavirus and based upon his recommendation suddenly everybody in
+
+28:11.840 --> 28:18.640
+the world was using the pcr test which is not supposed to be a test as i understand it but they
+
+28:18.640 --> 28:25.760
+were using that same um make that that way to determine whether somebody had or did not have
+
+28:25.760 --> 28:34.080
+this coronavirus that the snohomish county man had had and you know when jay first explained that
+
+28:34.080 --> 28:42.000
+no this this they couldn't tell one coronavirus from another i was like wow this is this is completely
+
+28:42.000 --> 28:47.600
+contradicting what this christian drosston said that he was able to magically come up with this
+
+28:47.600 --> 28:54.880
+modified pcr test over the weekend and it became the worldwide standard by which everybody is judged
+
+28:54.960 --> 29:00.640
+and of course from there we all if you remember and i think you guys remember a lot of people
+
+29:00.640 --> 29:05.840
+will remember that we started getting into the controversy of how many uh revolutions or how
+
+29:05.840 --> 29:12.160
+many times did they spin it through the pcr and if it's more than you know 25 or so then it's not
+
+29:12.160 --> 29:18.480
+really significant but they were spending it 35 times just to pump up the numbers and i mean
+
+29:18.480 --> 29:24.080
+that to me is also a big part of what jay can do is to is to expose that so
+
+29:25.760 --> 29:31.120
+have i got that about right jay yeah so i'm just was trying to see if i could pull something up
+
+29:31.120 --> 29:39.680
+that would help us talk about this so first of all um whoops um oh that's the wrong screen i want
+
+29:39.760 --> 29:48.560
+this one um this is the pcr test for the who um i'm not sure let me look at the bottom here if this
+
+29:48.560 --> 29:54.240
+is i think this is how they started but i'm not sure if this is where they are now where they
+
+29:54.240 --> 30:01.840
+started january 11th 20 no no this is 2020 so this is what they started with so if you take a look
+
+30:01.840 --> 30:10.880
+at this list here they are they are doing the rdrp or rdrp gene here which is the RNA dependent
+
+30:10.880 --> 30:17.840
+RNA polymerase and they have two primers here and then they have an RNA dependent RNA polymerase gene
+
+30:17.840 --> 30:25.760
+another um another pcr product of 100 base pairs with two primers and then they have the e-gene
+
+30:26.320 --> 30:32.720
+so what's interesting about this is that the e-gene of coronaviruses is shared across a lot of
+
+30:32.720 --> 30:41.280
+SARS viruses and in fact drastic um when it was still kind of an organization um covered a
+
+30:42.560 --> 30:49.120
+a blogger by the name of um and the blog is still up as far as i know it's called nerd has power
+
+30:49.760 --> 30:55.200
+and if you go to that blog you just google nerd has power you can find this blog where he describes
+
+30:56.000 --> 31:05.840
+the fact that the the RATG 13 sequence which was the closest known sequence to SARS-CoV-2 in the
+
+31:05.840 --> 31:15.840
+WIV catalog was made up and the reason why this person thought that RATG 13 was a made up virus
+
+31:15.840 --> 31:24.080
+and that therefore SARS-CoV-2 might be a made up virus was because all the viruses in a paper
+
+31:24.080 --> 31:34.400
+from 2000 I'm gonna get the year wrong but it was 2012 and RATG 13 sequence
+
+31:36.720 --> 31:45.200
+and SARS-CoV-2 all had the same roughly the same e-protein and actually the RATG 13 sequence
+
+31:45.200 --> 31:52.240
+and two other viruses published by WIV had the exact same e-protein now what they
+
+31:53.120 --> 31:59.440
+and other people that I think are reporting this incorrectly have said is that this is a sign that
+
+31:59.440 --> 32:08.960
+this is um this is a fake virus but what I think this is is more um an example of what I was talking
+
+32:08.960 --> 32:16.480
+about earlier which is when you find an ephemeral signal that has missing pieces one of the many
+
+32:16.480 --> 32:24.000
+missing pieces can be the e-protein gene and they know the coronavirus is require an e-protein for
+
+32:24.000 --> 32:28.640
+the assembly of the of the actual it's part of the kind of capsid thing it doesn't really have a
+
+32:28.640 --> 32:36.640
+capsid but it's part of the of the shell of the virus so if you imagine a scenario where in those
+
+32:36.640 --> 32:41.520
+earlier papers they found coronaviruses but they were incomplete genomes but then they said okay
+
+32:41.520 --> 32:45.840
+well we'll throw in this e-gene in both of them and then we'll grow them up as clones so we can
+
+32:45.840 --> 32:53.120
+study them and then they made up another one RATG 13 and they threw in an e-gene there
+
+32:53.920 --> 33:01.840
+and so what you're seeing evidence here of number not here directly but what you're you get the idea
+
+33:01.840 --> 33:11.120
+of what's going on here is that the e-gene is a very small protein reasonably conserved but not
+
+33:11.200 --> 33:16.960
+in a way that would be expected to be identical across coronaviruses so it's an interesting target
+
+33:17.680 --> 33:21.600
+because it shouldn't be specific and more importantly should change a little bit
+
+33:21.600 --> 33:28.000
+but the RNA dependent RNA polymerase gene is a highly conserved I mean highly conserved
+
+33:28.560 --> 33:36.320
+and it's a big multi multi subunit protein and what that means is if they choose the most
+
+33:36.320 --> 33:46.400
+conserved part of that protein like for example the wheels of a car and you use the wheels of a
+
+33:46.400 --> 33:52.640
+car like steel belted radials as being the indicator of a car being present and then you said well
+
+33:52.640 --> 34:00.000
+this is a highly specific test for a Mercedes 320 convertible and what does it test for well
+
+34:00.080 --> 34:05.520
+test for steel belted tires you'd be like well that's not very specific every car has got those
+
+34:06.160 --> 34:12.320
+and with the RNA dependent RNA polymerase gene it's very hard to be specific with that
+
+34:12.960 --> 34:18.320
+with that gene because that gene is present in every coronavirus and it is highly conserved
+
+34:18.320 --> 34:25.040
+because it is the gene that purports to do the copying so you can't make errors with that
+
+34:25.040 --> 34:30.960
+you can't make mistakes on that gene if you make mistakes copying that portion of the genome
+
+34:31.520 --> 34:36.960
+that copy of the genome is worthless so the idea that they're looking for this
+
+34:38.080 --> 34:43.040
+I used too much time again but the idea that they use this as the primary probe
+
+34:43.840 --> 34:49.920
+indicates that this is more like a pan coronavirus test than it is a test that would be specific
+
+34:49.920 --> 34:58.000
+for SARS-CoV-2 simply because SARS-CoV-2 is defined mostly by its structural protein
+
+34:58.000 --> 35:02.880
+and its spike protein so if you're not testing for that you would never know how you're
+
+35:02.880 --> 35:06.880
+differentiating from any of the other coronaviruses that were expected to be in the background
+
+35:07.760 --> 35:13.200
+and you weren't required to get all three you required to get two of three so there's no
+
+35:13.200 --> 35:21.440
+specificity here at all now compare that I just happen to have this here to what they did in
+
+35:21.440 --> 35:30.800
+2019 or 20 for us 23 for us now they're doing the end protein so if we move this one over here
+
+35:32.400 --> 35:38.320
+they're doing two primer sets here for the end protein and so now the specificity of
+
+35:39.200 --> 35:44.800
+tests that look for the RNA dependent RNA polymerase are very different than the specificity
+
+35:44.800 --> 35:49.520
+that looking for the end protein I don't know how they're better or worse but they have to be
+
+35:49.520 --> 35:55.520
+different because each of the proteins in the coronavirus genome is conserved to a different
+
+35:55.520 --> 36:01.600
+degree in other words if you were trying to detect the presence of a car one of the things
+
+36:01.600 --> 36:06.400
+that's highly conserved is they all have rubber tires one thing that's less highly conserved is
+
+36:06.400 --> 36:11.760
+that they all have leather seats one thing that's even less highly conserved is that they have
+
+36:11.760 --> 36:21.440
+leather dashes or or led lights or or gold gold uh plated things inside of it would be even more
+
+36:21.440 --> 36:29.280
+rare and so the question is with all of these coronaviruses tests are they really specific for
+
+36:29.280 --> 36:35.440
+a specific coronavirus and the answer before 2020 is that's impossible but the answer after
+
+36:35.440 --> 36:42.960
+2020 is of course they're extremely specific for just this one and there's no I just don't think
+
+36:42.960 --> 36:48.800
+that there's any evidence that they ever were extremely specific and maybe I'll just do this one
+
+36:48.800 --> 36:54.800
+thing mark and then I'll shut up because I know I'm taking a lot of time here but you were asking
+
+36:54.800 --> 37:02.480
+before about primers and there's something that about primers that a lot of um academic biologists
+
+37:02.480 --> 37:08.000
+assume but I want to clear up for all the academic biologists up there that this didn't happen
+
+37:08.000 --> 37:14.640
+okay so if you're looking for a sequence and that's the sequence and you design primers and those
+
+37:14.640 --> 37:21.680
+are the primers and then this would be filled in by the PCR or this would be filled in by the PCR
+
+37:21.680 --> 37:28.720
+and you would copy and amplify and you would find what you were looking for academic biologists
+
+37:28.720 --> 37:37.840
+don't do it like this if this was the sentence the quick brown I'm writing too fast
+
+37:44.000 --> 37:49.520
+there's my sentence the the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog you would use primers of the
+
+37:50.240 --> 37:57.200
+and dog to find the the sentence and that would be a reasonably reasonably
+
+37:58.240 --> 38:05.840
+specific set of primers but it would pick up every sentence in every book that started or had the
+
+38:05.840 --> 38:12.400
+somewhere in it and had dog after that and so that's a lot of sentences that aren't the quick brown
+
+38:12.400 --> 38:18.160
+fox jumps over the lazy dog and a book that you might read it might amplify more than this sentence
+
+38:18.800 --> 38:25.840
+so what is typically done in academic biology is that you do two rounds of PCR and so you have
+
+38:25.840 --> 38:34.000
+primers and then you have nested primers so nested primers in this reaction would be QUI
+
+38:35.280 --> 38:44.320
+and ONG so essentially you would run the first PCR reaction with the and dog and you would amplify
+
+38:44.320 --> 38:50.640
+all the sentences that have the and dog in it in that order some separated by more words or
+
+38:50.640 --> 38:58.400
+less words and then you would run a second PCR with the primer ONG for this part of the sentence
+
+38:59.120 --> 39:06.800
+and quick QUI for this part of the sentence and so now of the of the all of the little sentences
+
+39:06.800 --> 39:12.160
+that you amplified with the and dog you're now selecting only the sentences that have
+
+39:12.800 --> 39:20.000
+QUI at the beginning and ONG at the end in that order and now you've really made
+
+39:20.000 --> 39:29.360
+your two-step PCR test extremely specific but in Canada and in America and in most places in
+
+39:29.360 --> 39:36.240
+the world they weren't using nested primers but anytime anybody does PCR in a university
+
+39:36.240 --> 39:40.880
+because they're writing a nature paper and they're going to get tenure they're always using nested
+
+39:40.880 --> 39:48.800
+PCR so they all assume that these COVID tests must be nested they would not use nested primers
+
+39:48.800 --> 39:54.240
+and there's no specificity at all and that's exactly what they did they did not use nested
+
+39:54.240 --> 40:01.600
+primers and in Canada they didn't use that for the entire pandemic so just two primers that's it
+
+40:01.600 --> 40:06.880
+and so any sentence that has this word in the beginning or this word near the end will be amplified
+
+40:07.360 --> 40:13.120
+regardless of its length and so that's the problem I don't know if that was a very good
+
+40:13.120 --> 40:23.600
+illustration but I hope it was a good explanation am I still on talk to me goose you're in the
+
+40:23.600 --> 40:29.200
+show and I don't hear anybody else what happened well I came down so we could see a graphic okay
+
+40:29.200 --> 40:34.000
+sorry I thought you guys went away yeah we're on work still here and mark still here but just
+
+40:34.000 --> 40:41.200
+building on what Jay said is if you were to start testing for something in your environment
+
+40:41.200 --> 40:46.960
+or told to test for something in your environment that you never tested before
+
+40:47.600 --> 40:53.680
+four before and if you believed or were told to believe that you're testing for something which
+
+40:53.680 --> 41:01.280
+never existed before right even though it may have you could be led to believe that something new
+
+41:02.080 --> 41:09.520
+has just emerged and is now spreading that's the simplest way of saying it so what's important
+
+41:09.520 --> 41:16.480
+here is a whole lot of these things these detection tests were used and they really did
+
+41:17.280 --> 41:23.760
+glow all kinds of colors or not and there really was a lot of data collected and that data just
+
+41:23.840 --> 41:31.040
+can't be said that it didn't happen it did but doesn't mean what they want you and I
+
+41:31.840 --> 41:36.880
+to think it means right and if they were just taking something which would have tested positive
+
+41:36.880 --> 41:43.200
+maybe ten years ago anyways but didn't tell you but you didn't have the test till now and they said
+
+41:43.200 --> 41:51.120
+this is new it looks like something new and novel is spreading like wildfire and they took advantage
+
+41:51.120 --> 41:57.600
+of our faith that there could never have been something a trick like this pulled on us at the
+
+41:57.600 --> 42:06.560
+scale I fell for it a lot of us did and the consequences were real they were but then I just
+
+42:06.560 --> 42:12.320
+don't believe the official narrative at all of of what was spreading and hopefully that simplifies
+
+42:12.320 --> 42:18.800
+what Jay said in a more more technically elaborate and accurate way what I want to do is just
+
+42:18.800 --> 42:26.080
+summarize it and say that what what we have summarized here tonight so far is evidence of a
+
+42:26.080 --> 42:34.640
+very very clear conspiracy this this is a conspiracy there's no other way that they could have gotten
+
+42:34.640 --> 42:40.800
+those reports all around the world you know within so many hours I mean have you seen anybody
+
+42:40.800 --> 42:47.600
+seen those list of the times you know of the day when the first case was reported you know in
+
+42:47.600 --> 42:53.200
+first case in San Francisco first case in Melbourne first case in South Africa first you know and
+
+42:53.200 --> 43:02.640
+it's like they're an hour apart and and this is this is Jay Jay's theory or hypothesis is that
+
+43:02.640 --> 43:15.360
+that is evidence of a conspiracy to create a pandemic a fear of a pandemic but the fact is that they
+
+43:15.360 --> 43:24.800
+were limited by the ephemeral nature of the infectious clones they were using but they did
+
+43:24.800 --> 43:30.640
+have infectious clones and people did get sick and so that's you know we've got positive yeah
+
+43:30.640 --> 43:41.040
+people did get sick and and now we have well I guess the next step in in exposing or the
+
+43:41.120 --> 43:47.360
+exposition of what what what we're trying to do tonight would be to talk to Mark about Remdesivir
+
+43:48.160 --> 43:57.280
+because in order for us to be you know first of all they had Snohomish County man as the example
+
+43:57.280 --> 44:07.600
+of hey take Remdesivir you'll be fine in three days but then the deception that there is this
+
+44:07.600 --> 44:16.240
+pandemic everywhere coupled with oh we've got to use Remdesivir Mark why did they do that
+
+44:19.120 --> 44:26.000
+well why did they are why did did they say they did it they say they did it because there's this
+
+44:26.560 --> 44:35.520
+deadly novel virus spreading like wildfire and which because it's novel after all we've never
+
+44:35.520 --> 44:39.280
+used these tests before we're testing for something that we've never tested before
+
+44:39.280 --> 44:48.960
+tested for before it's novel so because it's so novel and unique you and I cannot possibly
+
+44:48.960 --> 44:55.520
+understand how to defend ourselves our bodies would never understand this thing because it's so
+
+44:55.520 --> 45:03.760
+unique therefore the only logical way to save lives would be to have a a powerful and new
+
+45:04.640 --> 45:14.640
+therapeutic to help people recover and that there was some evidence limited evidence
+
+45:14.640 --> 45:23.920
+that Remdesivir had some therapeutic value now the bar was set extremely low arguably to the point
+
+45:23.920 --> 45:32.560
+where it didn't have any however it the very fact that they did test it and at least it was some
+
+45:32.560 --> 45:41.360
+warp data to suggest that it had ffk just bent or benefits they were able to push it
+
+45:44.960 --> 45:48.720
+the the thing with Remdesivir I mean Remdesivir it's a very complicated compound
+
+45:49.920 --> 45:52.400
+it's been described so I think it takes a long time to manufacture
+
+45:53.920 --> 46:01.680
+there's a possibility probably a strong possibility that it does have a beneficial activity
+
+46:02.640 --> 46:08.000
+for people who have been possibly exposed at that moment to something like an infectious
+
+46:08.000 --> 46:14.560
+clone like the day of and I mean these things were developed for warfighters for people in the
+
+46:14.560 --> 46:20.000
+battlefield that are being potentially hit with synthetic biological agents so that their bodies
+
+46:20.000 --> 46:26.080
+perhaps can you know it's still bad but it's it's as opposed to having to deal with the full
+
+46:26.080 --> 46:31.200
+load of a synthetic biological agent Remdesivir might give you a chance to survive it
+
+46:32.160 --> 46:38.800
+now Remdesivir was not designed for someone who's been sick for a week and a half to get better
+
+46:39.600 --> 46:47.680
+in fact in the cases where Remdesivir was for many people prescribed and used as part of these
+
+46:47.680 --> 46:55.760
+hospital protocols it had detrimental effects and caused the body to be further straight further
+
+46:55.840 --> 47:03.760
+stressed and in many cases led to a situation where the patients felt weaker some of them
+
+47:03.760 --> 47:10.320
+allowed themselves to be intubated additional medicine was given and oftentimes the results
+
+47:10.880 --> 47:19.600
+were lethal now the question is is was the this belief that we can't look at any of these other
+
+47:20.320 --> 47:27.440
+this whole world of medicine a lot of it's not good but even you can't look at any of it
+
+47:27.440 --> 47:33.760
+aside from Remdesivir and then ivermectin and one other thing maybe you can't look at any of it
+
+47:33.760 --> 47:38.560
+just have to look at these these two or three things this is the whole toolbox right now
+
+47:38.560 --> 47:45.360
+everything else can't even consider antibiotics because this is a novel virus they said so
+
+47:46.240 --> 47:55.840
+um this means that there were potentially many people that succumbed to that lost their life
+
+47:55.840 --> 48:03.120
+because they were treated based upon a health protocol that was designed specifically for people
+
+48:03.120 --> 48:10.960
+who have tested positive for a novel virus whereas if you go to the hospital traditionally if you
+
+48:11.040 --> 48:18.800
+have a fever or if you have a broken arm or something they they treat the symptoms right um uh they
+
+48:18.800 --> 48:25.680
+don't they don't test you know to see exactly specifically how the proteins are designed on the
+
+48:25.680 --> 48:30.400
+thing that's making you sick if you got a fever you know there's certain ways to treat it you know
+
+48:30.400 --> 48:38.720
+if you have pain or whatever and it's not super super super specific to the pathogen that was
+
+48:38.720 --> 48:43.520
+people were encouraged to abandon that thinking with coronavirus and now think that
+
+48:44.160 --> 48:50.160
+based upon the very specific description of the invading pathogen you need to have a very very
+
+48:50.160 --> 48:57.600
+specific course of action taken taken to that and those are we just refer to them simply as
+
+48:57.600 --> 49:04.640
+protocols but they're really the the hospital protocol specific to people who were tested positive
+
+49:04.640 --> 49:10.960
+or who are identified symptomatically to have the novel SARS-CoV-2 virus and the COVID-19
+
+49:10.960 --> 49:18.800
+disease associated with it so again um how many of the additional excess deaths which really did
+
+49:18.800 --> 49:25.680
+happen uh could have been avoided if we simply treated people based upon their symptoms
+
+49:26.640 --> 49:32.480
+here's another thing john look at it this way how many people have you heard of we're just walking
+
+49:32.480 --> 49:37.680
+down the street who are mowing their lawn and just suddenly croaked and died of COVID
+
+49:40.160 --> 49:47.360
+um i would say zero zero yeah you know i'm like stroke heart attack i'm not trying to be funny
+
+49:47.360 --> 49:52.320
+about it no but i'm looking for that if you want to have a pandemic i'm looking for some bodies
+
+49:52.320 --> 49:58.240
+that down out in the street yeah that to me there's there's no one who was at the cafeteria based
+
+49:58.240 --> 50:06.720
+down in the soup yeah everyone was dying in a hospital this is very different than other
+
+50:07.520 --> 50:15.200
+diseases or or sudden health you know tragedies which is a big clue if many of these excess
+
+50:15.200 --> 50:21.920
+deaths were in hospitals well and if they didn't happen outside of the hospital right i think
+
+50:21.920 --> 50:27.040
+it's legitimately it's legitimate the question just how much of this pandemic was driven by
+
+50:27.280 --> 50:33.360
+protocols by erroneous interpretation of tests by medicines which were approved that shouldn't
+
+50:33.360 --> 50:39.840
+have been based upon bad data used when they shouldn't have been taking away a doctor's ability to
+
+50:41.360 --> 50:45.520
+you know exercise their own discretion and this is all even before
+
+50:47.840 --> 50:54.400
+you know people you know suicide rates were up because of isolation um drug overdoses were up
+
+50:55.360 --> 51:04.800
+the and now you have the impacts of of the the newer generation of jabby jabs associated with this
+
+51:05.920 --> 51:13.600
+so um revisiting the past a little bit what led to the escalation of fear who participated in that
+
+51:14.160 --> 51:18.560
+and how are the tools used misrepresented misinterpreted
+
+51:19.360 --> 51:28.560
+um is is important i believe anyways uh for uh for hopefully not having this happen again
+
+51:29.200 --> 51:37.360
+um i suspect that uh there's a possibility something like what just happened could happen again i
+
+51:37.360 --> 51:45.360
+think because of the contributions of j and um you know a small army of other people i think the
+
+51:45.360 --> 51:56.880
+odds of that are going lower every day um i'm proud to say but uh it's anyways that i i yield
+
+51:56.880 --> 52:05.040
+for the moment it's important to um round that off with uh with a mention that in the uk how they
+
+52:05.040 --> 52:10.800
+did it was with medazalam um there were lots of old people in the uk that were given medazalam
+
+52:10.800 --> 52:17.440
+way over the normal dose and basically killed with it um remdesivir played that role here a
+
+52:17.440 --> 52:24.480
+lot of people have in my mind seemed to fail to draw the the parallel between azt and remdesivir
+
+52:24.480 --> 52:31.280
+but i do think that there's something there um in the sense of trying to force a chemotherapy drug
+
+52:31.280 --> 52:35.680
+onto people with AIDS and it probably made most of them much sicker than they would have been if
+
+52:35.760 --> 52:40.960
+they hadn't been put on a chemotherapy drug and all of those symptoms were blamed on AIDS
+
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+and that's not any different than when they gave remdesivir to people in the hospital and they had
+
+52:45.920 --> 52:50.160
+kidney failure and liquid filling up in their lungs and they blamed that on covid when they
+
+52:50.160 --> 52:56.080
+knew that that was a side effect of being on remdesivir for longer than five days so the other
+
+52:56.080 --> 53:02.480
+thing that i'd like to mention is that we've been mark and i have been kind of playing tennis with
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+53:02.560 --> 53:09.040
+old um videos from people that we've streamed with or listened to or think are are important
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+we've been going back to see what they were saying as early as we can and one of the surprising
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+things that we found Robert Malone saying in 2021 was that dexamethasone is something that
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+you can give to covid patients and really rev it up um and so you have to kind of add that to a list
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+of substances that was being used and so is it something that could exacerbate things and was
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+53:34.480 --> 53:39.520
+it part of the protocol and helping to exacerbate things um all of these things need to be
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+53:40.720 --> 53:47.280
+need to be added together in an equation much more like one would solve a crime rather than
+
+53:47.280 --> 53:53.760
+trying to you know i use this analogy the other day when you call 911 you don't have to already
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+53:53.840 --> 53:58.720
+know what the motivation of the person who's breaking into your house is and whether or not he's
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+53:59.440 --> 54:03.680
+he's motivated by money or whether he's a drug dealer or whatever you don't need to know all
+
+54:03.680 --> 54:07.600
+that all you need to know is somebody's breaking your house and if we're saying that a bunch of
+
+54:07.600 --> 54:14.480
+people are lying about this virus in order to usurp our rights and change the way that they
+
+54:14.480 --> 54:19.440
+they govern us forever and i don't know if we need to know all the details of how they done it and
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+54:19.440 --> 54:22.880
+in fact they could have done it differently in different places and they would be smart to have
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+done it that way. I think you know what i've been trying to do tonight is to give a
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+54:31.840 --> 54:40.800
+a background for people that are fairly new to this that can see fairly easily through a lot of the
+
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+BS that we've been fed and to start with Snohomish County man to to look at the infectious clones
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+54:48.160 --> 54:56.160
+and to recognize what what Jay's been emphasizing tonight about how these RNA viruses are by nature
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+if emerald that they they can't travel around the world in exactly the same form they can't even
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+cross the room in exactly the same form and that's the way it is that's biology.
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+Now we have a tremendous collateral damage from either the disease or the the jabbie jabs as Mark
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+calls them and i think it's more has to do with the jabbie jabs and we we notice the cancer statistics
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+55:27.360 --> 55:34.160
+are going very very bad they're looking really bad especially with young people. You guys know
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+i have cancer and what happened to me i never took any of the jabs i never took any uh i
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+i my wife never took any of the jabs we lived to just the two of us so neither one of us had
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+anything like the covid that some of our neighbors had but she visited some neighbors and some
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+relatives in california in february and came back uh and uh said oh they all had uh covid and
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+56:05.840 --> 56:11.760
+she started feeling like she had a two and then she she did she got sick and then i got sick
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+with the very same thing and uh it was more than a flu it was this was not you know this was not
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+your average you know uh 20 years ago flu uh it did have that lingering time you know three
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+four weeks where you just don't feel like you can do anything um but the other reasons that i think
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+it really probably was generated either from the original covid or whatever variant it's at by now
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+but i think more likely that it's somebody that that she was traveling with that had got it
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+not not necessarily from the original uh infectious clone but and and the way that i would put it is
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+is is it possible that in the jabs they've got stuff that gives you the same thing that snow
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+hamish county man came down with you know back in 2019 that it that it gives you that that illness
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+as a kind of in other words is there an infectious clone in the jab
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+oh well i mean if you want that that's uh i mean the jab is is RNA the the jab is the RNA in the
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+best case scenario it's supposed to code for a viral protein so it is it is one of 31 proteins
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+it's not as bad as an infectious clone of the RNA would be in theory but on the other hand
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+you're not injecting that infectious clone you would inhale it in theory um again i want to emphasize
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+that the infectious clone for people who are just following mark and i for the first time and just
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+meeting me for the first time the infectious clone is a methodology by which something which is very
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+intractable in nature and in the laboratory can be converted to a pure and quantity that can be
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+studied and shared with people um it's it's often the way we do it with biology in the laboratory
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+another great example is that all of the laboratory work i keep referring like this because the
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+University of Pittsburgh is over there um all of the laboratory work that's done in in monkeys
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+i'm sorry mice is done in inbred mice mice that have been bred to themselves brother to sister
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+brother to sister brother to sister until they are so genetically identical that they can be
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+studied as one animal model because if you use outbred wild mice some of them will be smart
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+some of them will be dumb some of them will get sick some of them won't some of them will respond
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+well some of them won't some of them will be susceptible to your drugs some of them won't
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+but if you have a very genetically pure inbred mouse strain all of the animals reactions to
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+different drugs or different treatments will be much more similar and we do this in science as
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+part of this reductionist manner of probing the universe but that reductionist manner of probing
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+the universe has become so reduced that it no longer adequately recapitulates the complexity
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+we're trying to understand and in this scenario um with these RNA viruses there's a tremendous
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+complexity out there in the wild that at our best when we try to get a hold of it in the laboratory
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+we make a DNA version of it we make it very pure and then we start with that even though
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+we know that that does not exist out there at all and we use this to scare everybody that this is
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+the pandemic potential but it really is this is how they could do it they could get this sequence
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+in every person in the world if they made enough of it and then sold the right water bottles to
+
+01:00:09.600 --> 01:00:15.440
+everybody everybody drinking and everybody would be PCR positive if they just like if they wanted
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+01:00:15.520 --> 01:00:21.120
+to paint everybody blue all they need to do is make enough blue paint you wouldn't that's all they
+
+01:00:21.120 --> 01:00:27.840
+need to do and if you say that oh wait somebody spilled blue paint out in my backyard and before
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+you know it all the houses in the world are going to be blue everybody be like well how the hell's
+
+01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:36.640
+that good that's stupid that's not how paint works but that's what they're saying with RNA
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+01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:41.040
+they're saying that somebody spilled some RNA out there and now the whole world's going to have it
+
+01:00:41.680 --> 01:00:43.360
+and that's just not possible
+
+01:00:47.200 --> 01:00:53.680
+I hope I can get you guys back I want to talk more about the jabs themselves and you know again to
+
+01:00:53.680 --> 01:00:58.720
+get back to the collateral damage that they they cause as well as Sarem Desivir and
+
+01:00:59.360 --> 01:01:06.480
+Marcus has been working with victims and with the survivors and and people that have you know
+
+01:01:06.480 --> 01:01:14.240
+and he himself and his family touched by this crazy so-called medical system and the disasters
+
+01:01:14.240 --> 01:01:23.520
+that that have followed since 2019 they just keep compounding upon one another I guess for
+
+01:01:23.520 --> 01:01:30.320
+tonight I'm really grateful for you both to share this time with me and to try to but I want what
+
+01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:38.480
+I'm really trying to do guys is to try to get your message out better and and I want you to feel
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+01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:46.560
+successful that's great that that you guys are starting to feel like you're maybe maybe can stop
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+01:01:46.560 --> 01:01:53.600
+them from doing the next time and you know we never know the effect of what we do we send it
+
+01:01:53.600 --> 01:02:00.160
+out into the universe and maybe this show maybe another show another day will be the trick that
+
+01:02:00.160 --> 01:02:08.480
+people say oh you know what this really was a a big conspiracy and now we're going to take names
+
+01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:14.880
+and kick some butt and and get past it because we got we got to get past it got to get back to
+
+01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:22.880
+being good a good good old USA you know the country that we all were taught to love as children we
+
+01:02:22.880 --> 01:02:28.160
+should be that country and you guys are helping me and helping everybody else to get back on track
+
+01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:35.440
+thank you very much for tonight thank you Jay thank you Mark thank you guys like to add
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+all I'll say is I think that country is still alive and well and I think that future is still
+
+01:02:41.680 --> 01:02:49.280
+there it's alive in here and I wouldn't judge someone's patriotism by the size of the flag behind
+
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+them trust me I think I think you both of you are I consider to be look mine mine is very small and
+
+01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:03.200
+understated you know it's just enough you know it doesn't need to whack you over the head and
+
+01:03:03.200 --> 01:03:10.800
+suffocate you you know is but anyways I'm and you know what even if everything was perfect
+
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+everything was perfect we would still have to live this way in order to keep it that way so
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+I view it as a as art our challenge and our responsibility one way or the other and thank you
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+guys for being on this mission with me awesome said oh well said Mark thank you very much for
+
+01:03:27.680 --> 01:03:34.960
+having me I'll be back anytime you need well I'm looking forward to it then thank you very
+
+01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:43.040
+very much JJ koui and mark kulak oocytonic live and JJ you find him on twitch at giga ohm
+
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+biological
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+01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:55.280
+well done gentlemen well done perfect do we have to keep the window open and tell things to upload
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+01:03:55.280 --> 01:04:03.840
+or anything like that no it's good we're good hopefully you appreciated the uh uh every once
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+a while look we're all feeling stressed but uh you know sometimes you just have to will the optimism
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+01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:16.320
+into being you know uh and uh so thank you for letting me say those words
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+and the clubs and the you know hey man life no well maybe the countries in better shape than we
+
+01:04:38.240 --> 01:04:44.320
+think but we're all just being fed a PCR test of America is dead well it is it really is you
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+01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:49.360
+know you think of it and they're trying to get us to give up trying to get us to give up before
+
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+it we should be maybe I don't know
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+01:05:08.240 --> 01:05:10.320
+you
+
+01:05:39.120 --> 01:05:41.120
+you
+
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+sorry about that so I'll start that over I uh I apologize for not having a regular stream tonight
+
+01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:13.040
+I know that I would normally do that but this is still it's streaming and it's on my channel and
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+is and I wanted you to go over to rumble and watch it so hopefully some of you did go over to rumble
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+01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:24.080
+and watch it um anyway thank you very much for being here um and I definitely gonna be here tomorrow
+
+01:06:24.080 --> 01:06:30.480
+because we're keeping this street going I think this is 21 days in a row now anyway who's counting
+
+01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:46.400
+we're just not gonna stop thanks for joining me see you tomorrow night
+
+01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:15.040
+so
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+I think we're going to have a
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+Go for 16 minutes next.
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+He's going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television.
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+People everywhere are starting to listen to him.
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+02:40.000 --> 02:42.000
+It's embarrassing.
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+He had the exact location laid out on a map.
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+02:48.000 --> 02:53.000
+Then he, like, hid the map in the cigar store Indian for safekeeping.
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+Too bad. We could have been partners.
+
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+Now, instead of being rich, he's in jail.
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+02:59.000 --> 03:02.000
+Hey, like what happened to Scooby?
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+There he is.
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+Scooby, put down for that gopher hole.
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+Scooby-loom!
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+One of those apples better be for me.
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+No.
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+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
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+This is Gigo, biological, high-resistance, low-noise, information free, brought to you by biologists.
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+This is the 28th of September, 2023, and I've got some immunology for you tonight.
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+04:15.000 --> 04:22.000
+Unfortunately, the immunology is going to be brought to you by a man with a limited spectrum of views
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+and may be part of this group of people that has been controlling our limited spectrum of debate for a long time.
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+The protocols were murdered, gain of function, is a mythology.
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+The Scooby-Doo is real and the players are only committed to lies.
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+That's all it requires, ladies and gentlemen.
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+That's all this requires.
+
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+I'm really telling you, it's all requires is a spectacular commitment to lies.
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+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+04:59.000 --> 05:04.000
+This is Gigo, biological, high-resistance, low-noise, information brief, brought to you by biologists.
+
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+It's the 28th of September, 2023, and we've got a long way to go.
+
+05:09.000 --> 05:15.000
+And a lot of biology still to learn, thanks to the people on the scroll at the top of the screen
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+05:15.000 --> 05:19.000
+for supporting me over these last many months and years.
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+It is without them that we would not have this.
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+I don't even know if that was grammatically correct or not, but anyway, thanks to them, we're still here.
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+And yeah, we're going to keep on going.
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+We're trying to avoid the new world order that's goofed on this hat here.
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+The idea that viruses come out of bad caves.
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+I'm kind of done with that, and I think you should be too.
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+One of the best ways out of that is to not take the bait on social media or on television.
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+If you can turn the TV off permanently, that would be great.
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+Because they have, through a long series of dramatic entrances and exits, of dramatic
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+release and releases and fortuitous whistleblowers, we have this fundamental change in how we think about our biology
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+and that fundamental change in how we think about our biology has allowed them to cause havoc
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+in our healthcare system, which otherwise wouldn't have happened.
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+Essentially, through fear, uncertainty and doubt, a bunch of people were killed with bad protocols.
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+And a bunch more people were roped in as collateral damage because they tested positive
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+or even were suspected of and didn't test positive.
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+There was so much financial incentive to declare COVID deaths that it's likely that most or all of them
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+were completely nonsense.
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+And so it is this sort of essential mythology that has been perpetuated by all of these people
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+that I'm identifying as this spectrum of debate, which has been curated by people everywhere
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+from Joe Rogan and Brett Weinstein all the way up to Tony Fauci and Francis Collins.
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+And so I think this debate has basically been controlled, number one, around the idea that
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+this gain of function stuff is real and that it's an impending danger.
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+And the better we get at making genetic material and the cheaper genetic material becomes,
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+the more dangerous this gain of function stuff is.
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+Now, the interesting part about this twist in their mythology is it's not the RNA sequence that matters.
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+It's the quantity.
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+And if you have enough of it, you can make a pandemic.
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+And there is no doubt of that.
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+But the idea that you can make a special combination of RNA sentences or letters that can result in a virus
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+which has the capability of doing something that all other viruses don't have the capability of doing,
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+which is spreading from person to person to person to person to person to person
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+was extremely high fidelity in waves of variance over many years.
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+This is just never before in the history of mankind and with any precedence has occurred.
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+And now you might think, oh, no, wait, there was that 1918 thing.
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+Yeah, there was that 1918 thing.
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+Has no bearing on what happened here.
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+No, no, even comparison except for the hysteria of a mythology spreading around the world
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+can possibly happen in the different places where that mythology lands.
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+And without a doubt, their idea has always been to use this mythology to coerce a surrender of our rights to privileges.
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+And this inversion is going to continue with the mythology of public health and a mythology of the shared planet and climate change.
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+And you can see very clearly how a religion or a language or a culture or a music was never going to unite the earth.
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+It didn't matter how good the king of pop was and how many albums he sold.
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+He wasn't going to be able to bring the world together.
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+Bono and Michael Jackson was never with it together couldn't bring the world together.
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+But the fear of a gain of function virus being made in somebody's garage.
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+That'll bring that'll bring the world together.
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+The fear of five years from now, the earth being on fire.
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+Now that that'll bring the people together.
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+And that's what this debate has been all about.
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+I gotta put it in the hell.
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+That's what this debate has been all about for so long and it's been very frustrating because it has been curated by people who you expected not to be curating things.
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+You thought that people were really speaking of their own accord and really trying to find their way around in the cave.
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+And these people weren't trying to find their way around at all.
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+They already knew where they were and they had already agreed to try and keep you there.
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+That's really the trick.
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+And so we're trying to track down who are the people who laid down this worst case scenario narrative.
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+Who are the people who aren't talking about PCR or masking or lockdown or the spread or lack of spread.
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+The death certificate fraud.
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+The protocol frauds with the do not resuscitate orders.
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+The ventilation for money.
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+The protocol for money like remdesivir and medazalam in the UK.
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+And the early treatments and the lack thereof and the stereo around the idea that we were not being honest about these early treatment alternatives.
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+All of this stuff has virtually disappeared from the narrative for most of the leaders and people speaking in the front lines of this debate.
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+And this should be very frightening because this in effect does not account for the fraud and the lies.
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+And instead the accounting is done by people who are willing to attribute most of the damage to the virus and some of the damage to the mistakes that were made.
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+And that completely removes the lying from the the equation.
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+And this list of lies where is it over here over here over here over there this list of lies needs to be acknowledged.
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+And that's what this whole people experiment you know thing has been all about trying to figure out how to do this.
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+That's what we've been trying to do with this picture.
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+Let's try and figure out which of these people has been genuine and which of these people has not.
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+And I think we've got a good way to figure this out now because we can more succinctly codify what it is we're trying to describe to them what it is we object to.
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+Number one to be very succinct.
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+Transfection is not immunization.
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+The second thing is to say that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
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+And that might sound a little bit brash but I think at this stage we are sophisticated enough with our biology that we can say that.
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+And more importantly I think we can make a very good argument for it.
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+Especially especially I mean especially with regard to a respiratory virus.
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+So we've been looking at these people.
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+And tonight I would like to look at a very special person.
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+The other night I was allowed to plug a few people I'm going to plug those same people tonight again.
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+Number one is the work of Jessica Hockett.
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+I think she's really done a steadfast job with keeping people focused on the bullseye and not being distracted by other things and looking for other manifestations of that bullseye around the United States and she's been very successful.
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+I think Nick Hudson is very very consistent in his pursuit of the truth.
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+You're going to be able to find videos where he's saying some weird things or some funny things because he's not a biologist and so sometimes he might say things that don't really make logical sense from a biological's perspective.
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+But if you talk to Nick and you explain it to him he's going to correct himself.
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+And his main insight that has really caught fire on the internet until was I guess the fire was put out artificially was him saying that if they ever come to you with global problems that require global solutions then you know that that's baloney.
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+And I think that's a very good starting point it's a very good litmus test are they telling me that this is a global problem.
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+Yes, are they telling me that they have a global solution. Yes, then we probably shouldn't listen.
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+And Denny Rancor I just saw him present today to a private zoom meeting and again it's a it's such a large body of data and a body of work that that paper when you download it it's a little frustrating because it's so big but
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+the gist of it is is that there are are pretty detectable signals in every country where we have semi reliable or objective data.
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+And these signals are correlated with the rollout of the countermeasures and specifically the MRNA shots although there's probably a signal associated with the the adenovirus DNA shots as well.
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+And so we've been investigating talking about thinking about reflecting on the behavior of some of these people because it turns out they seem to be more connected than we thought.
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+And an interesting player for tonight is going to be here funded boss a guy who worked at Solve I believe with Robert Malone on the flu vaccine in 2007 and 2008.
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+I'm going to listen to his opening lecture in an immune, immune biology course which he's going to teach at the IPAC University, which was founded and is headed by James Alliance Weiler PhD from originally I think he was working in Pittsburgh at the start of the pandemic but now lives in Michigan.
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+Sorry about that.
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+So as you know I've known and thought about here funded most for a very long time.
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+He actually yelled at me one time in a zoom meeting. I believe this was in 2021 and I asked him to speak to the possibility of previously educated T cells from previous exposures to coronavirus and he yelled at me yelled at the group
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+and said that he's tired of these questions about T cells. There's no evidence for any T cell memory associated with SARS-CoV-2.
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+So he's pretty insistent about that.
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+Let me see if we can.
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+Oh wow that worked a little smoother than I thought it would.
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+I think we're just going to play this.
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+I'm going to get that mousey mouse. There he is.
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+So let's see what happens. I'm not going to speed it up but I'm probably not going to interrupt that much wink wink.
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+Okay, so yeah the first slide is of course what it is all about the immune biology of natural and immune escape pandemics and epidemics.
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+So let me tell you first of all, very very important.
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+What is very often misunderstood or not understood at all with regard to pandemics and epidemics is the immunology.
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+So there is a lot of people who are interested in following the virus, the evolution of the virus and how it evolves over time and talking very generally not only with regard to the current COVID-19.
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+I'm going to interrupt very much but I'm probably going to interrupt a lot.
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+It's crazy, you know he came out at the end of 2021, 2020.
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+So he's been on the scene a long time.
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+He's had a lot of opportunity to teach us about how the immune system and he's done it.
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+He's given a lot of half hour and hour lectures. He's put out a lot of publications.
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+And we've looked at them and we've talked about them.
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+We're going to see something very extraordinary here tonight I think and I've got a strategy problem and I'm going to surprise you within a few minutes.
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+But not that many people are interested in following how the new response is evolving.
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+And to me that is very, very strange because as you know the higher mammalian species have what we call an adaptive immune system.
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+These are basically the B and the T cells.
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+And so that means that this type of immunity can adapt to several different situations.
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+So, however, nobody is asking the question how does the immune response adapt to when the virus is evolving.
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+We hear many, many things about mutations and the evolution of the virus, but we don't hear a lot of reasoning about the evolution of the adaptive immune system and how that adaptive immune system is then again.
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+Let's say exerting a certain pressure on the virus so that the virus evolves.
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+So, first of all, in this course, I will highlight and focus on a few definitions, but definitions I tell you that are so important that are absolutely key to understand how pandemics and epidemics are evolving.
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+And that hopefully I hope will give you many, many answers to questions that have been remained unanswered or that were very unclear and led to a lot of confusion.
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+So, the definitions, it's about definitions of immune selection pressure.
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+It's about what is an acute self-limiting infection. So, for example, SARS-CoV-2, but also influenza, but also other coronaviruses and also, for example, other viruses like enteroviruses, parvoviruses or causing acute self-limiting infections.
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+Then the key notion that is very, very important with regard to pandemics is, of course, herd immunity. How do we define this and how does it evolve and how do we find out whether or not we have herd immunity.
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+And then there is also, of course, the definition of what is an endemic infection, what is an emissivity, what is a pandemic infection, what is pandemicity and an epidemic.
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+So, I'm sure you have heard about all these different notions, but maybe not always understood how they are best defined and what they mean exactly.
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+So, a very important thing also notion to bear in mind is when it comes to evolution of microorganisms, it is important to understand that the Darwin, of course, never said that it is the strongest and the most intelligent of the species that is going to survive.
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+But according to Darwin's origin of species, it is the species, the one that is best able to adapt to the environment and to adjust to the changing environment in which it finds itself.
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+That is the species that is going to be survived. And I'm already emphasizing this right from the beginning, because what we are dealing with, especially currently with the current pandemic, when we vaccinate many, many people at the same time, is that the virus finds itself into an environment that is pretty hostile
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+in terms of immune responses that vaccinated people are mounting. And so viruses that can add that to that immune response, elicited or induced by the vaccines, they have a better chance to survive.
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+Viruses that are, for example, intrinsically very infectious, but have poor capability to adapt to immune responses in the population. So that is very important to bear in mind.
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+So then what is immune selection pressure? Well, immune selection pressure refers to the process by which the immune system exerts a selective force on, you know, microorganisms, pathogenic agents in general.
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+And this elective force enables the pathogen, for example, a virus to adapt to the host immune response. I'm always very often saying it's a host style immune response, because it is causing for the virus, an undesirable creating, generating an undesirable environment.
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+So this elective pressure enables the pathogen to adapt to this immune response, and thereby shapes the genetic diversity of the pathogen. It can broaden this genetic diversity. It can also narrow it.
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+And I will explain in a second how this works. This is just an overall definition.
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+So changes in this immune selection pressure, I was already saying the immune response of the population can also evolve, the adaptive immune response can evolve, and these changes will derive the evolutionary dynamics of the virus, because the virus is going to try to adapt to that in your response.
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+And such changes in immune selection pressure, we will see in one of the next courses can occur in your refocusing. So in this pandemic, we had events of the new refocusing.
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+I will not elaborate on this during this course, but in one of the next courses.
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+And to understand really the evolutionary dynamics of the virus and of the pandemic, for example, of the current pandemic, is absolutely fundamental to understand what immune selection pressure really is, and how it is generated.
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+And in the next slide, I will expand a little bit on this.
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+So how does immune selection pressure work?
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+Well, very easily, I hope everyone will understand that the more viruses replicate or the better viruses replicate, the more they produce viral mutants.
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+So, viral mutants are produced when viruses replicate and it depends on the type of virus.
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+For example, RNA viruses, they are pretty prone to mutations, even though they have what we call a polymerase proofreading function.
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+It's pretty funny that he mentions that I'm almost sure that him mentioning that polymerase proofreading function is a sign.
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+I know this is going to sound crazy, but I think it's a sign of coordination with other people because there's really no reason for him to mention that it doesn't really matter.
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+And the proofreading function of the polymerase still leaves it at about one error every 10,000 basis.
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+So I just want to take a side note here to kind of explain the swarm a little bit better than I have in the past, because I want you to understand the real wickedness of this live, because I'm only going to go on things that I've learned from reading pages and pages.
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+I mean, I'm no Charles Rixi. I haven't read 4,000 papers in the last three months, but I have tried to read as much as I possibly can, while also being a decent father and a decent husband and doing some streams.
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+And in that reading, I have come across this general trend, which I think best describes the way that this works, and so I want to share that with you now.
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+If you think as simply as possible and think about a viral genome being released into a cell, and if this is the viral genome in the green line here, the RNA dependent RNA polymerase is going to copy the RNA from one end to the other.
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+And because of the nature of RNA, there is a beginning and an end, and the RNA polymerase can only copy from that will beginning end and go down to the other end.
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+Now, keeping in mind that there is a high propensity for the RNA dependent RNA polymerase to jump off of the strand that it is copy and either find another strand to begin on or to float around until it hits the beginning again.
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+They're not really sure how to describe this, but nevertheless, the odds of it getting on a strand and completing it are not one, but less than one.
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+In addition to that, for every roughly 10,000 bases, and it could be worse, you know, but let's give them the numbers that they publish, for every 10,000 bases, there's going to be an error.
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+So if we try to distill this down to a funny cartoon, we could say that this single RNA dependent RNA polymerase protein was already successfully made by the translating of this genomic RNA into a poly protein, that poly protein got cut up reliably,
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+and then it assembled into the RNA dependent RNA polymerase, and now we're about to copy the genome for the first time.
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+So I've already given the virologist like half of their infection cartoon, because the virus got in.
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+It opened its genome, its genome was faithfully translated, that translated poly protein was then chopped up in a way that left it functional and folded correctly and assembled correctly, and now it's copying the RNA.
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+Let's just say that works.
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+Because it makes an error every 10,000 bases, the first copy of the genome will have three errors in it because the genome of a coronavirus is roughly 30,000 bases long.
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+So we'll have another genome over here, but it'll have three errors in it, which we will label A, B, and C.
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+Now the RNA dependent RNA polymerase has gone all the way down to the end over here in order to make this second strand, and so now the RNA polymerase is going to float back around and choose one of these two to copy again.
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+Now let's just say for luxake that it chooses the original genome again, and it makes another copy of it.
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+And that second copy also has three errors in it.
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+So those three errors are encoded there.
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+Now the RNA polymerase went all the way down to the end, and it made that copy, and so now it's going to come back down again, and it'll upset jump down here and it made this one.
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+But that one's also got three errors in it.
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+But not those three errors, and additional three errors.
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+Now the RNA polymerase is going to come down float over here and it's going to pick one of these three and copy four and copy it again.
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+And I hope you're starting to get a strong enough imagination after having come here for evening after evening to realize that as this process continues, the likelihood of the RNA dependent RNA polymerase of choosing the original strand goes lower and lower and lower
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+and the odds of it choosing a strand with up to six, or even nine point mutations goes higher and higher and higher.
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+And when the virologists talk in numbers, they're talking about millions of viruses being produced so at what stage does this mathematics end up being that the original virus sequence doesn't mean jack.
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+Are you starting to understand what's happening here with the regard to the coronavirus quasi species swarm or really as,
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+as Vincent Raccoon yellow said it's really just a mutant swarm but this old term quasi species swarm is what he still uses.
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+I mean that's not a very difficult explanation.
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+And it's not something that is impossible for you to understand right because the RNA dependent RNA polymerase comes around and copies this one this time.
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+And this one had a D and an E and an F and now it's going to also have a J and a K and an L.
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+And so now the RNA dependent polymerase is going to come around again. It's going to come down and up it got the original one again.
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+With three errors L, M, N, and O. Now the RNA polymer is going to come back around again. Oh, it landed on this one.
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+A, G, B, H, C, I, and then M, I know P.
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+Q, I'm running out of ink. See is it just too bad.
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+P Q and R.
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+And so as this system continues, as the replication of the viral genome continues, the mutant swarm, the quasi species swarm is defined exactly like this.
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+It's not a bad cartoon. This is the real thing right here. It's no more tricky than this.
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+And if you understand this, then you realize why even the consensus genome sequence doesn't mean jack.
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+And it is from this mutant swarm that the virus evolves.
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+And from this mutant swarm that it often crashes.
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+And it is from this mutant swarm that they told you that, you know, uniform sequences, clouds of delta, then Epsilon and then Edra and Omicron swept around the world, country after country after country taking over.
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+As if somehow this process is a pattern generator that could make such a phenomenon.
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+Think about how preposterous that is.
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+Now keep in mind, these mutations are occurring across a giant genome.
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+So the changes are very consistent across the genome in the sense of, you know, they're tiny little changes among 30,000 bases.
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+But this process from person to person from infection to infection doesn't result in a directional movement, which parallels one another in each.
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+If I get a virus, I'm not going to produce the same delta that my wife does, even though we're married and have lived together for 20 years.
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+Because our immune systems are based on our genetic background and that random assortment of things and random responses to previous viruses, random memories from previous exposures that is unique for each of our histories that ultimately is
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+how our immune response will be to a particular novel signal.
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+So the idea that somehow or another, the virus will end up having the same sequence going around the world in different countries.
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+It is just the most absurd cartoon story ever.
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+And that's why the people who know it's a cartoon story are happy to go along with it because if you don't get it, wow, we don't have to worry about you figuring anything out.
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+Because this is available.
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+Anybody could have drawn this for you.
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+Anybody could have explained the basics of the swarm and the basics of the randomness.
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+Here at Fund in Bolsch could explain this right now.
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+And explain why as this goes on, and this randomness happens, remember that for every one of these that makes it to the end, what was it again?
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+600,000 make it only to the E protein.
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+600,000 only make it to the end of the end protein.
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+Another 400,000 only make it to the end of the S protein.
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+And so only 11 of every 500,000 make it to the end of the whole molecule.
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+And all of them have the same error rate.
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+Try to start engaging your imagination as much as you can because it's your best tool for learning this biology, for letting this iteration go on in your imagination.
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+If you can close your eyes and do that, that's a huge bonus because you can really start to see how ridiculous this is.
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+If you're a programmer, you could write a basic program that would do this and you could start to get a feeling for what that swarm really is.
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+They could teach us this if they wanted to.
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+A polymerase is basically an enzyme that these viruses have and that enables them to correct some errors that are made in the DNA replication.
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+So the virus replicates, it needs to replicate its DNA.
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+And sometimes there are small errors so that they don't make an accurate or an exact duplicate of the original form.
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+And then to correct this, they have a polymerase proofreading function.
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+So an enzyme that can correct this, but despite this enzyme, you still will find it doesn't work at 100% viral mutants.
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+And of course, the more the virus replicates or the better, the quicker the facets replicates, the more viral mutants you will have.
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+So that is one thing. On the other hand, we all know that when a host is confronted with a foreign agent, for example, a pathogen virus, then there will be an immune response.
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+And the immune response of the host will target specific antigenic motifs on the circulating virus.
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+So there are certain antigenic domains on the virus that will easily elicit the new responses.
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+So the immune response of the host will then target those motifs and makes the virus, in fact, vulnerable and can destroy the virus, can neutralize it, for example.
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+But this progeny virus will, of course, also comprise mutants that have genetic variations of the targeted entities.
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+So if the antigenic motifs that are now targeted by the new response, if they change in certain mutants, for example, then these mutants can, of course, escape to this immune response.
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+So the antigenic variation that we, antigenic variations that we find in mutants and genetic variations of the targeted motifs, they can escape from the new response that was previously mounted by the host.
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+For example, this could be, this is the case, for example, in the coronavirus with influenza, with a number of other viruses, the primary new response that is targeting the pathogen is based on antibodies.
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+So ABS is the abbreviation for antibodies.
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+So antibodies against the circulating pathogen, if the target motifs are responsible for eliciting neutralizing, for example, anti-spank antibodies, then, of course, immune escape variants that can evade this neutralizing antibodies, just by chance, because they have incorporated some antigenic variations that enable them to escape
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+these neutralizing antibodies that have been elicited.
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+Well, those immune escape variants will have a competitive advantage.
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+They will be selected.
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+So now it's important to realize that that is not sufficient to generate immune selection pressure, because imagine if this phenomenon only happens in a limited amount of people,
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+then it will have no effect, because the virus need to be transmitted from one host to the other.
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+If, for example, 5% of the host population is putting, so to say, the virus under pressure and derive selection of some mutants, that is not sufficient to really make this mutant dominant in the population, because it will be transmitted, for example,
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+to other people who have no antibodies who are not going to put this selection pressure on the virus.
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+And therefore, this effect of immune selection will be completely abolished.
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+However, if this immune selection pressure occurs in a sufficiently large proportion of the population, then it will provide the selected, for example, more infectious immune escape variant
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+with a fitness advantage, not just in the one or two or, you know, percent of the population that, for example, is mounting these antibodies.
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+But at the level of the entire population, for example, or at the level of the majority of the population, if the majority of the population is indeed mounting such antibody responses.
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+For example, in the case if we do mass vaccination, we all of a sudden within a few months provide like 40, 50, 60, 70% of the population with antibodies.
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+Then, of course, the virus passes on from one individual to the other.
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+It will very regularly encounter the selection pressure, and it is this selection pressure that will give the virus an overall, an overall fitness advantage in the population.
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+Of course, it's more likely to survive and reproduce, and this will eventually enable this variant to replace other circulating viral lineages and become the dominant strain.
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+So that is important to understand immune selection pressure requires in fact that the majority of the population is able to exert such pressure.
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+The virus passes on from one individual to the other that a particular mutant that can overcome the activity of these antibodies has a fitness advantage in the majority of the population.
+
+43:53.000 --> 44:02.000
+So we are 14 minutes into an intro lecture on the immunobiology of pandemics.
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+And as far as I can tell, so far, I'm not counting exactly, but this is what I had marked on the other page.
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+He has said virus, I stopped counting at 16, and that was on the third slide.
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+And now that he's starting to talk about the immune response and immune selective pressure.
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+He has talked exclusively about antibodies and neutralizing antibodies with the abbreviation and ABS or, yeah, neutralizing antibodies.
+
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+So it's not a very sophisticated immunology lecture because it's not going to teach you how immunology works.
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+It's not going to teach you how the quasi species swarm actually evolves and why Omicron going in can't be Omicron coming out.
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+And so therefore, Omicron coming into Pittsburgh can't be Omicron leaving Pittsburgh for Cleveland. That's not how it works.
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+It doesn't work like that.
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+And we're not even talking yet about the vast majority of these RNAs that end up being translated are sub genomic RNAs.
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+The vast majority of the viral particles that get produced are non-infectious.
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+We're not talking about any of these details yet.
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+And we're already way off course with antibodies, antibodies, antibodies, antibodies.
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+He already said antibodies to the spike protein because his whole stick in this course is going to be 12 lectures about how the mRNA vaccinations to the spike protein have pushed the virus around.
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+And they're going to make it more infectious or more virulent.
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+And this giant assumption that goes along with this lecture is that the mRNA vaccines can't hurt anyone.
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+And in fact, they augment the immune system to such a perfect degree that we can affect the specific evolution of a specific protein on a specific virus.
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+Think about how spectacular that is.
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+That is the 15 minutes in. That's already the summary of what this is all about.
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+That the antibodies produced by an mRNA vaccination and sufficient quantities put in sufficient arms as the capability of changing a global phenomenon in a specific direction based on a single protein of 31.
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+And we can see that pressure on that one protein across the whole globe.
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+Holy man, that's an amazing story.
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+I think it's a gamma delta omic wrong.
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+Some people are saying, yeah, this this variance existed already before the mass vaccination, et cetera, completely true.
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+But what what what was unique is that after mass vaccination, for example, this variant started to dominate in the population. And that was pretty exceptional.
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+So that's an interesting thing to say is that mean that he's really absorbing my story and our story that these variants were in the background all along.
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+And that now we're bringing them out of the background essentially by sequencing for them by adjusting the primers, adjusting the primers so that they find different things. Can you imagine?
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+48:17.000 --> 48:27.000
+Trying to target, trying to target sequences that are made up of this kind of randomization with primers?
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+And which ones you pull out would of this huge swarm of millions of sequences with this kind of error generation?
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+What sequences you pull out would depend on what primers you use?
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+And in order to amplify the entire genome of a coronavirus, you need to have 99 primer sets.
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+99 pairs of primers, 99 across the whole thing.
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+99 pairs of primers are in the average sequencing reaction.
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+And so if you subtly change those primers, then out of this swarm, you just draw different mutants.
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+Out of this background signal, you just draw different sequences. Don't you see it, my friends?
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+Nobody's checking this. Nobody's doing this.
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+Everybody takes for granted that this is being done above board, that nobody would ever screw around with this.
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+And they're counting on us not to see this. They're counting on us not to understand this.
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+Those variants were definitely in the background all along.
+
+49:56.000 --> 50:04.000
+They were a random low level noise all around the earth for millennia.
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+And I have no doubt that every once in a while there are local amplifications of these RNA signals.
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+I don't know why or how or where they come from.
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+But you can be damn sure that they cannot pandemic like they have described on television.
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+Like he is describing now, there is no way in heck.
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+Propagation, dominant propagation of this variance does not necessarily result from immune selection pressure.
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+It is true that dominant propagation of more infectious variants may result from immune selection pressure at the population level.
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+That is what I just explained. However, even in the absence of immune selection pressure, there can also be spontaneous mutations that randomly occur.
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+And they may just by chance involve a number of variations of antigenic domains that are responsible for a higher level of intrinsic viral infectiousness.
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+That means that even in the absence of any immune pressure, a virus can become or muted can be more infectious.
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+And that more infectious virus will have of course an advantage towards other circulating viruses because it's more infectious and it could also become dominant.
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+However, and that is where we are saying the more the virus delivery.
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+If you have trouble understanding and picture the count from Sesame Street and then you can understand them easier. That's what I do.
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+For example, at the higher its level of infectivity, the more likely variants that exhibit a higher level of infectivity are going to emerge and dominate.
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+Antigenic motifs that confer a higher level of intrinsic viral infectivity.
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+So, even if immune selection pressure, for example on viral infectiousness vanish, that is what we are seeing right now in the pandemic.
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+The variants that are circulating right now, they are all very difficult to neutralize.
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+That means that they are largely resistant to the neutralization.
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+So, there is no fitness advantage of one of these circulating strains towards another because they all have in the context of the predominant antibodies in the population.
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+They have all a similar, I would say a similar advantage of being difficult to neutralize. So, if that is the case, if you cannot distinguish.
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+53:15.000 --> 53:23.000
+I mean, the whole immune response is neutralizing antibodies.
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+53:23.000 --> 53:32.000
+I mean, think about the level of sophistication that we are talking about here and the level of insulting that this really should be seen as.
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+This is not somebody who is trying to bring everybody up to speed to understand why natural immunity is something to be respected.
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+This is someone who is trying to explain to you why taking the vaccination was a mistake.
+
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+We should have only given it to old people or something. I don't know what he is going to say.
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+But if he wanted to teach immunology, he would have started in a different place.
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+53:57.000 --> 54:06.000
+If he was trying to teach the illusion away, he wouldn't be talking about antibodies for the last 20 minutes.
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+He would have started by saying they really misled you about the importance of antibodies.
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+And in actuality, the antibodies are the signal that they knew they could get if they transfected you and that's why they use it as a proxy.
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+But he's not trying to lead you out of the cave.
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+I'm not even sure if he's holding the flashlight.
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+And if he is, he's shining it back down deeper. That's for sure. This is incredible.
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+The level of neutralizability of the circulating strains.
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+Then, of course, if some of these variants happen to be more infectious, they will take over and they will dominate.
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+54:50.000 --> 55:08.000
+So immune pressure can be the cause or immune selection pressure can be the cause of dominant propagation of viral variants, but it is not always the case.
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+And so, that is something that is very important to distinguish because the question then is how can I distinguish between a variant that becomes dominant due to immune selection pressure, or a variant that becomes simply dominant
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+due to high intrinsic infectivity.
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+55:35.000 --> 55:39.000
+And the explanation is very simple.
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+55:39.000 --> 55:56.000
+And there's many publications that document is that in case the population is exerting immune pressure on the virus, for example, viral infectiousness, you will see that the evolution of the virus, the mutations,
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+55:56.000 --> 55:59.000
+they all go into the same direction.
+
+55:59.000 --> 56:04.000
+So that's what we call convergent, convergent evolution.
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+56:04.000 --> 56:20.000
+That means that, for example, if you have immune selection pressure exerted by the population against SARS-CoV-2, you will see that the immune selection pressure is directed primarily against spike protein.
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+56:20.000 --> 56:32.000
+And it is essentially within certain domains of spike protein that are responsible for enhanced infectiousness or neutralizability that you are going to see those mutations.
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+56:32.000 --> 56:48.000
+So those mutations are convergent as they all respond to the same environmental influence, namely the pressure of antibodies on viral infectiousness.
+
+56:48.000 --> 56:57.000
+So, for example, in the case of SARS-CoV-2, that spike is responsible for the infectivity of the virus.
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+56:57.000 --> 57:15.000
+So if you put pressure through antibodies against spike on viral infectiousness, then you will see that the mutations that start to dominate in the population, they all converge to domains within the spike protein
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+that are responsible for infectiousness of the virus.
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+Whereas if you have viruses that happen to be more infectious that have a high intrinsic viral infectiousness, but it's not due to a new immune selection, you may see several different mutations in several different parts of spike protein
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+or even in other viral proteins, and the addition of all these mutations makes so to say the virus more infectious, but it's not a convergent evolution of these mutations.
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+58:00.000 --> 58:14.000
+So the authorities have been saying at the beginning, well, you know, we need to do mass vaccination because we can reduce viral infectivity, which was the case at the beginning, which really was.
+
+58:15.000 --> 58:35.000
+And they say the list of viruses going to replicate, well, the higher the likelihood that we will be able to restrain or to restrict the occurrence of more infectious variants, or the opposite, the more on the better device replicate, the more likely more infectious variants will dominate.
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+58:36.000 --> 58:42.000
+So with that only applies in the absence of immune selection pressure.
+
+58:42.000 --> 59:04.000
+And this is so what I mean is that, yes, if you have, for example, no immune selection pressure on viral infectiousness, then of course, the more the virus replicates, the more likely some of these more infectious variants will pop up and take over and dominate.
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+But on the other hand, even if the virus replicates at a lower pace, and even if the replication is diminished, you can still have the dominance of more infectious variants provided provided you have immune selection pressure.
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+So, and that was what, what, what was happening at the beginning. So when we mass vaccinated the at the beginning, the infectivity went down decreased.
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+59:39.000 --> 59:53.000
+Despite this decrease and less replication of virus, we saw that more infectious variants were taking over and better, gamma, delta, omicron, et cetera, which can only be explained.
+
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+So in the absence of reduced viral replication, you can only explain the occurrence of more infectious variants that dominate if there is a new selection pressure on that particular characteristic characteristic of viral infectiousness.
+
+01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:30.000
+So another thing that can, in the absence of enhanced replication that can lead to dominance of more infectious variants is, for example, when you have, and I will come back to this, it's a phenomenon that we call antibody dependent enhancement of viral infectivity.
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+And what this means is that you have, for example, antibodies that have low, allows the neutralizing capacity.
+
+01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:59.000
+And even if the intrinsic infectiousness of the virus is relatively low, these viruses by binding to this, neutralizing to these antibodies that have a very low neutralizing capacity, they can become more infectious.
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+01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:14.000
+And that is a phenomenon I will come back to this that can be explained by the fact that simply binding of these antibodies to these viruses with low intrinsic infectiousness can enhance viral entry into susceptible cells.
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+And so by way of this antibody intervention, I would say the virus becomes more infectious.
+
+01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:37.000
+And what an interesting thing to say when this doesn't say that at all. This says, anybody dependent enhancement of viral infectivity and curves after the first wave of a natural pandemic can confer sterilizing immunity to those who are initially asymptomatically infected.
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+01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:48.000
+The second and sometimes third wave is, or are critical in ensuring full fledged herd immunity.
+
+01:01:48.000 --> 01:02:01.000
+These are some of the worst slides I've seen in a while, I mean, you know, if you're just going to read stuff, I guess, and you're not going to read what's on there but at least talk about something to do with what's on there.
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+01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:06.000
+The antibody dependent enhancement is best looked up for dengue fever.
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+01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:21.000
+The idea is that for whatever reason, the antibodies that you produced to your, to your previous exposure, enhances the disease upon second exposure.
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+01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:42.000
+The dengue fever, what happened was they vaccinated moms, moms had antibodies in their breast milk, and the antibodies in the baby when the baby was exposed to dengue fever, cooperated or assisted the antibodies in creating a worse infection.
+
+01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:48.000
+Now, you can imagine that happening in a lot of different ways.
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+01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:57.000
+One of the ways that he is saying is it can infect other cells because the antibody allows entry, that's a very good way.
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+01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:11.000
+Let's just leave it at that, but let's just note that this isn't going very well because we are still, and I mean still talking about antibodies, antibodies, antibodies.
+
+01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:20.000
+So antibody dependent enhancement of viral infectivity occurs, for example, after the first wave of a natural pandemic of natural pandemic we have seen as well.
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+01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:32.000
+I wasn't there, but people have reported this that this occurred during the Spanish flu in 1918, where there was a natural pandemic.
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+01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:42.000
+So no intervention with vaccines after the first wave, we had a second wave, and this second wave affected primarily younger people.
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+01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:51.000
+So what happened is that, and I will also come back to this phenomenon that the younger people at the beginning, they got asymptomatic infection.
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+01:03:52.000 --> 01:04:05.000
+So because of this asymptomatic infection, they only developed very low titers of neutralizing antibodies with low neutralizing capacity, because most of the virus was dealt with by their innate immunity.
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+01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:22.000
+So they, they only develop very low titers, short-lived antibodies that had poor neutralizing capacity, but these antibodies were able to bind upon next exposure, upon subsequent exposure to the virus.
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+01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:48.000
+They were able to bind to the virus and make the virus more infectious, so that the virus broke through the innate immune response of people who were initially asymptomatic infected, made them ill and enhanced spread of the virus, which is a very important phenomenon because to enhance spread of the virus, the population acquired it ultimately.
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+01:04:49.000 --> 01:05:07.000
+So, yeah, let's, for just a second, come to acute self-limiting infection, the definition thereof, and how it generates sterilizing immunity and protection from infection.
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+So what are acute self-limiting infections?
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+01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:20.000
+Well, acute self-limiting infection, I give you a number of examples like parvovirus, like endrovirus, coronavirus, influenza virus, etc.
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+01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:36.000
+So the virus infects the host cell, and it will initially, when the virus is released from the host cell, which you see on the left side of this cartoon, the virus will be bound by early antibodies.
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+We call these antibodies IgN antibodies. You see a picture of an IgM antibodies in the left corner at the bottom.
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+01:05:46.000 --> 01:06:03.000
+These antibodies, they are pentameric. These are basically five antibodies that are joined together through sulfide bridges, it's not that important, but you have to know that these early antibodies, or have more specificity,
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+but they can extensively bind to the virus, and they can build kind of immune complexes.
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+01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:25.000
+So with the virus, they're built immune complexes, these immune complexes are then taken up by antigen presenting cells, and then these antigen presenting cells, they will stimulate what we call cytotoxic T cells.
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+01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:36.000
+And that is important to know because these cytotoxic T cells, these are the guys who are going to kill, this is the red arrow that you see, to kill the virus infected cells.
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+01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:50.000
+And by killing those cells, they sterilize infection, they eliminate the virus because the virus can only replicate, of course, in living cells, in the living cell that is infected is killed by those cytotoxic T cells.
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+The infection ends, that is why we call these infections self limiting, and they are acute, but they are self limiting.
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+01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:12.000
+In the meantime, while this happens, the IgM antibodies, this is the number three on the top that you see, will evolve, so to say, into IgG antibodies.
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+And other isotype of antibodies that is characterized by higher affinity, and higher specificity, and also longevity memory.
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+So that means not only during acute self limiting infections, will the virus and virus infected cells be eliminated, but at the same time, the individual will be protected against upcoming,
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+01:07:41.000 --> 01:08:00.000
+or next exposure by virtue of IgG antibodies that have high specificity and longevity, so that can basically prevent the individual from being infected and contracting the disease next time around.
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+01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:24.000
+So this is important to know, because what results from this is, if you have, for example, a pandemic of a self limiting infection, such as coronavirus, influenza virus would be the same, you will automatically be dealing with a pandemic that will also be acute self limiting.
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+And that is what we see, for example, if you look at the curves of previous pandemic, best documented, or of course the influenza pandemic, you see that this started all of a certain acute, but then after one or two waves, it was in fact almost under control,
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+01:08:44.000 --> 01:09:06.000
+and it was self limiting that pandemic came to an end and transitioned into endemicity. So very typically for acute self limiting infections, when they cause a pandemic, you will have also pandemics that are self limiting, and that end after a few months and transition into into endemicity.
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+So, so I just kind of, I got to go back a little bit this.
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+So it would be nice if you would explain this, this basic immunology a little more, it would be nice if you would say that this target host cell is likely a dividing barrier cell like an epithelial cell.
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+It would be nice if he would say that there's a mucosal layer here with IgM and IgI sorry IgA antibodies in them that have the same poor specificity, but they would bind to the virus, get rid of it.
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+01:09:46.000 --> 01:10:01.000
+It would be nice if he would say that the proteins which are expressed by the infected cell are presented on MHC molecules on the outside of the cell, and it's the MHC molecules that are read by the cytotoxic T cells.
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+01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:23.000
+It would be nice to for him to say that antigen presenting cells have already presented viral proteins to the cytotoxic T cells of previous infections to the helper T cells from previous infections so that any target cell that was expressing an RNA,
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+01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:32.000
+an RNA polymerase, would surely be presenting a protein that would already have a cytotoxic T cell aimed at it.
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+01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:50.000
+And so yes, there are IgM antibodies which will mop up any viruses that go systemic, but the T cell memory that's required to get rid of these cells already exists, especially anybody older than six months old.
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+01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:55.000
+Certainly anybody older than three.
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+01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:09.000
+So the idea that somehow we need to augment this, of course it's ridiculous, but more importantly, the idea that this is an attempt at teaching this, this is frustrating to me.
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+01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:14.000
+He's using stars to represent IgM antibodies.
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+01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:22.000
+He's got a target cell here that looks like it was drawn with a, what is this?
+
+01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:24.000
+Really?
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+01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:33.000
+We're supposed to pay $160 a person to take a 12 week course with this guy drawing pictures?
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+01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:36.000
+$160 for 12 weeks of immunology.
+
+01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:42.000
+Can I get people to pay that much money that I'm doing the wrong thing?
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+01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:48.000
+It better not be thousands of people paying for his immunology course, or I'm going to go bananas.
+
+01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:50.000
+But I think I should register for it.
+
+01:11:50.000 --> 01:12:05.000
+I think I should do the whole thing with you because either he eventually teaches immunology or it's going to be 12 or 20 weeks of fraud.
+
+01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:08.000
+It's not that all of this is necessarily wrong.
+
+01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:12.000
+It's just, it's not well taught.
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+01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.000
+It's omissive.
+
+01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:19.000
+It's insulting.
+
+01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:24.000
+It's not well planned.
+
+01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:34.000
+If this was going to be an overview, you know, think about the overview that I've been doing of the immune system over the last few lectures with the drawing that looks like a kidney beat.
+
+01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:46.000
+I mean, I don't, I don't get it really, but I'm just going to keep watching because I do want to go to bed at a normal time and there's still 30 minutes left. Maybe I'll see.
+
+01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:52.000
+In an immunologically naive population, acute self limiting viral infections.
+
+01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:56.000
+Yeah, that's the abbreviation I will use during my course.
+
+01:12:56.000 --> 01:13:00.000
+Yeah, one needs to get a little bit used to this or a cell.
+
+01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:05.000
+The IQ self limiting viral infections or acute self limiting viral diseases.
+
+01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:11.000
+They lead to self limiting pandemics or in the case of acute self limiting viral disease to self limiting epidemics.
+
+01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:18.000
+So what is the difference? For example, Pirona, SARS-CoV-2, I should say, is an acute self limiting infection.
+
+01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:26.000
+But for example, MERS and SARS, also grown viruses, they cause acute self limiting viral disease.
+
+01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:31.000
+So what does that mean? Well, when you get MERS or you get SARS, you will have symptoms.
+
+01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:42.000
+So you will, the infection will be symptomatic. And because it is symptomatic, people are either seriously ill or they need to go to the hospital or they could even die.
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+01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:48.000
+People are almost like naturally automatically isolated from the rest of society.
+
+01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:57.000
+And therefore, it's easy to stop these infections because people only shed the virus when they have the symptoms.
+
+01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:02.000
+So when these people are removed from society because they are in bed, because they die or because they are in the hospital,
+
+01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:11.000
+well, automatically the transmission of the virus will be dramatically diminished even to an extent such that the virus can no lower exist in that it gets eradicated, for example.
+
+01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:17.000
+And therefore, these diseases like MERS and SARS, and we have seen this, will not cause pandemics.
+
+01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:22.000
+Pandemics, we will come back to these notions, of course. Pandemics means global spread worldwide.
+
+01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:31.000
+But these diseases can relatively easily be controlled, because as I was saying, even almost like without public health measures,
+
+01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:35.000
+people will isolate or they will be removed in one way or the other from society.
+
+01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:44.000
+Transmission will dramatically diminish and before the virus can further spread, it will, it will, you know, virus will be eradicated or anyway, transmission will be stopped.
+
+01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:53.000
+So the virus can in general spread to a number of countries. We also call this multi-country epidemics, but never ever develops into a pandemic.
+
+01:14:53.000 --> 01:15:01.000
+This is different from coronavirus because sorry, SARS-CoV-2 virus, because SARS-CoV-2 virus also being a coronavirus can asymptomatically spread.
+
+01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:05.000
+So that means a number of people can spread the virus without showing symptoms.
+
+01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:13.000
+And that, of course, is very tricky because that easily leads to worldwide spread of the virus because, you know, people also say healthy, have only mild symptoms.
+
+01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:17.000
+They travel, they are in contact with nature, they don't isolate, they don't want to eat, et cetera.
+
+01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:28.000
+So, but anyway, in case of self-limiting infections, you have self-limiting pandemics in case of self-limiting viral diseases like MERS and SARS, you have self-limiting epidemics.
+
+01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:32.000
+And that is thanks to herd immunity, we will come back to this in the case of pandemics.
+
+01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:44.000
+Or thanks to infection prevention measures, what I mean with infection prevention measures is that human behavior being in bed or being hospitalized or even dying is a measure to prevent infection.
+
+01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:50.000
+Of course, you can add also public health measures that will further prevent the spread of the infections.
+
+01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:54.000
+They will be very efficacious, of course, because we are dealing with symptomatic infections.
+
+01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:59.000
+And that is what will make those pandemics or epidemic self-limiting.
+
+01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:05.000
+So in the case of acute self-limiting viral infections, herd immunity will enable the virus to transition into obesity.
+
+01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:07.000
+So, okay.
+
+01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:10.000
+But not prevent asymptomatic infection, I already explained this.
+
+01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:12.000
+It's strange. I don't know.
+
+01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.000
+I have trouble with this.
+
+01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:19.000
+I have trouble with this asymptomatic spread means it's an easy pandemic.
+
+01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:21.000
+I really have trouble with that.
+
+01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:27.000
+I also have trouble with them mentioning IgM, and they're not really explaining what the deal is with that.
+
+01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:30.000
+But this asymptomatic spread stuff is pretty much nonsense.
+
+01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.000
+And I think we can all agree on that.
+
+01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:42.000
+But asymptomatic spread could be a way of them covering up for a mass clone release, for example, now I'm just shooting from the cuff here.
+
+01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:57.000
+But if you sprayed clone all over Pittsburgh over the course of three weeks and only a few people got sick, but a lot of people tested hot positive for a PCR test, that might be considered asymptomatic spread.
+
+01:16:57.000 --> 01:17:15.000
+A much more likely scenario is erroneous, nonspecific PCR primers, PCR diagnostic tests being used to create profit, to create illusion of confusion, spread, fear, doubt, whatever.
+
+01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:26.000
+So asymptomatic spread is a wonderful, wonderful, very simple, but fancy sounding, you know, asymptomatic spread.
+
+01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:32.000
+With no symptoms, you can't smell it, but it's there anyway.
+
+01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:37.000
+This is a typical Giordano technique.
+
+01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:43.000
+There's going to be the symptomatic people that complain of the symptoms and they're really sick.
+
+01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:46.000
+And then the really way we get them is the internet.
+
+01:17:46.000 --> 01:18:00.000
+And we tell people that our other signs of what did he call it, antidromic spread, something like that, where they get anxiety, sleeplessness.
+
+01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:08.000
+And so symptoms that a lot of people have from stress end up becoming symptoms of the asymptomatic spread.
+
+01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:10.000
+And that's exactly what they did to us.
+
+01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:16.000
+Every little sniffle, every little cough, test, positive, bang.
+
+01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:21.000
+I'm going to test positive. I'm going to test too because my wife tested positive. I better test.
+
+01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:25.000
+I must, I'm asymptomatic. See, it's me.
+
+01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:31.000
+It's definitely a game. It's definitely being played and it's definitely being perpetuated here.
+
+01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:40.000
+In 2023, this is the second half of 2023.
+
+01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:56.000
+And someone is teaching us immunology and it's all about antibodies and it's all about asymptomatic spread being one of the key aspects of the potential pandemic potential of coronaviruses.
+
+01:18:56.000 --> 01:19:04.000
+To jump from being a self limiting infection to a pandemic, flying free.
+
+01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:08.000
+Hope you can see it. It's pretty bad news here.
+
+01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:21.000
+I don't want to tell you, I was hoping there would be a little more, a little more sacredness in this, in this video, a little more reverence for the, the divine.
+
+01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:30.000
+But this is just the TV stories, the crappy immunomethology that's been pushed out us for the last three years that they're, they're deceiving our children with.
+
+01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:35.000
+Is he any different? I don't think so. It doesn't seem like he's any different.
+
+01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:45.000
+So not prevent asymptomatic transmission. Whereas in the case of acute self limiting viral disease, infection prevention measures will even enable eradication of the virus in the affected population.
+
+01:19:45.000 --> 01:19:58.000
+So, of course, if you have animal reservoirs, like, for example, for, for, for MERS and camels, for example, you will not be able to really eradicate the virus because the virus can come back from this reservoir and spill over again to the human population.
+
+01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:08.000
+But if you think about how diabolical it is, if we made a camel specific coronavirus and tried to infect camels in the Middle East, just because, you know, we can.
+
+01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:20.000
+A real, a real nice infectious clone.
+
+01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:34.000
+Think about that. Who would have and virus that cannot be harbored, that cannot survive, let's say, in animal species, like, you know, back in the 19th century, small books.
+
+01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:43.000
+And it was put exclusively infect humans. Then it wasn't, and it was an acute self limiting viral disease. You really get eradications or no animal reservoirs.
+
+01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:52.000
+Endemicity of viruses call causing acute self limiting viral infections will enable regular flare ups, because the virus can still circulate.
+
+01:20:52.000 --> 01:21:00.000
+And with enhanced infection or morbidity rates, that's what we are basically seeing with influenza viruses, they are endemic.
+
+01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:10.000
+And from time to time, because the virus can circulate asymptomatically from time to time, if immunity wins, you can have a flare up a breaker and outbreak with enhanced infection and morbidity rates.
+
+01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:20.000
+So, if you are okay, I propose to have a break for, like, five or ten minutes, and let's say, well, let's, let's come back maybe in ten minutes.
+
+01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:27.000
+I imagine that this is a lot of stuff for you guys and that's going to have a break before we continue.
+
+01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:32.000
+So let's, let's, let's connect again in.
+
+01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:41.000
+Understood herding unity. When talking about pandemics and epidemics is, of course, what is hurting unity. Herding unity is a notion that is not well understood.
+
+01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:53.000
+And it is key. So you have to bear in mind that no pandemic can be ended without hurting unity. So in the context of acute self limiting infections.
+
+01:21:53.000 --> 01:22:03.000
+So let's just make one thing very clear. Please, everybody must hear it. Please hear it.
+
+01:22:03.000 --> 01:22:11.000
+Everybody must hear it. Please hear it.
+
+01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:18.000
+Clint, why aren't you listening to me? Listen to me. Listen.
+
+01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:24.000
+Yes.
+
+01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:32.000
+We are talking about the immunology or the immune biology of pandemics.
+
+01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:42.000
+With a guy who's one of the leaders on the dissident side, the speaking upside, the Malone team.
+
+01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:50.000
+About this gain of function, possibly lab leak virus.
+
+01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:56.000
+And after talking about the immune biology of this pandemic for more than a half hour.
+
+01:22:56.000 --> 01:23:01.000
+We haven't talked about the PCR testing as the fraud that it was.
+
+01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:08.000
+We haven't mentioned masking and how that damaged people or the shutdowns and how that damaged people.
+
+01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:16.000
+We haven't talked about the lack of evidence for spread in New York or any of these other large cities.
+
+01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:22.000
+We haven't talked about the death certificate fraud or the protocol frauds that included do not resuscitate orders.
+
+01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:30.000
+Remdesivir, Madazalam, that probably killed hundreds of thousands of people.
+
+01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:37.000
+And from here at Funden Bosh's perspective, the way to start talking about this is neutralizing antibodies,
+
+01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:49.000
+antibody-dependent enhancement, and immune selective pressure.
+
+01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:54.000
+I mean, I don't know, he's going to say all he says all kinds of things.
+
+01:23:54.000 --> 01:24:00.000
+It is an absolute exercise in stupid complicated.
+
+01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:05.000
+Because it is stupid complicated. It's not sharp complicated.
+
+01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:08.000
+It's not useful complicated.
+
+01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:14.000
+It's not thoughtfully complicated. It's stupid complicated.
+
+01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:28.000
+With slides full of text, illustrations with bad symbols and bad shapes so that no real information is conveyed.
+
+01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:38.000
+And except for the fact that it's so complicated that it's really hard for this very nice gentleman to distill it down to anything that I can understand.
+
+01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:43.000
+But you know it's not his fault. I'm just dumb.
+
+01:24:43.000 --> 01:25:02.000
+I mean, it's extraordinary ladies and gentlemen because people are going to pay money to take this course and to follow along and to be told how antibodies and how antibodies work and how antibodies are selected and how antibodies are fine-tuned.
+
+01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:06.000
+How come he didn't say anything about original antigenic sin yet?
+
+01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:18.000
+Isn't an original antigenic sin kind of a related to antibody-dependent enhancement in the sense of once you go down a certain, you know, memory cell, B cell pathway?
+
+01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:23.000
+It's kind of hard to go back.
+
+01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:30.000
+Oh, boy, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not sure really what to say other than this is this is going to get.
+
+01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:33.000
+Oops, sorry, I guess I did that wrong. Where are we going here?
+
+01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:36.000
+I just need to get rid of the.
+
+01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:39.000
+Get rid of this. There we go.
+
+01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:50.000
+Or acute self-limiting diseases hurt immunity refers, in fact, to a level of protection against the transmission of the infection or the disease within a given population.
+
+01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:54.000
+So you can already see this has nothing to do in principle.
+
+01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:57.000
+It has nothing to do so to say with antibodies.
+
+01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:08.000
+It has to do with a level of protection of the population against transmission, transmission of the infection in case of acute self-limiting infections or transmission of disease within a given population.
+
+01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:17.000
+So both natural infection and vaccination, primarily with life attenuated viruses can contribute to herd immunity.
+
+01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:30.000
+So I've been describing and mentioning several different contributions that vaccination during a pandemic can not generate herd immunity.
+
+01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:36.000
+Well, it all depends on when you do the vaccination if people are vaccinated in advance before being exposed to the virus.
+
+01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:40.000
+Vaccination as well can of course contribute to herd immunity.
+
+01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:48.000
+It depends when you perform this vaccination and we will see why this is so important, the moment at which you perform vaccination.
+
+01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:52.000
+When you do this during a pandemic, you will never generate herd immunity.
+
+01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:57.000
+When you do this outside of a pandemic, of course, vaccination can contribute to herd immunity.
+
+01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:01.000
+So optimal herd immunity is achieved.
+
+01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:08.000
+So again, here we have another example of someone who doesn't seem to be on our team.
+
+01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:14.000
+No mention vaccination works fine and that shouldn't surprise you. He's a vaccinologist.
+
+01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:19.000
+He's worked on the flu vaccine. He's worked on animal vaccines, which is also interesting, right?
+
+01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:25.000
+Because he knows about the feline coronavirus vaccine. He knows about the HEPA virus vaccine and horses.
+
+01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:31.000
+He knows that vaccinating against these types of RNA viruses generally goes south.
+
+01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:37.000
+He knows that. He knows that. Don't you see? He actually knows that.
+
+01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:41.000
+He knows it.
+
+01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:53.000
+Hair fun and Bosch knows that in veterinary science, vaccines don't work very well.
+
+01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:57.000
+Not all vaccines are bad.
+
+01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:01.000
+I've been vaccinated against rabies.
+
+01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:05.000
+I think that was a that was an intramuscular injection.
+
+01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:08.000
+I tested positive for the titers.
+
+01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:14.000
+I don't know if I would be protected against rabies if I got bit by a bat, but I was recently vaccinated for rabies.
+
+01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:19.000
+But rabies is a protein and an adjuvant.
+
+01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:24.000
+So it may work a little bit.
+
+01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:29.000
+It may have also made me vulnerable to to other problems.
+
+01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:33.000
+It may be the reason why I'm losing weight for the last three years.
+
+01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:42.000
+Because I got vaccinated for rabies and then didn't eat right or something like that.
+
+01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:45.000
+Developed auto immunity to my gut floor.
+
+01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:51.000
+And now I have different gut floor that isn't healthy for me anymore. I don't know what happened.
+
+01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:59.000
+But I know that when I landed here in 2016, I used to weigh about 205 pounds and I was 6 foot 5.
+
+01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:04.000
+And now five years later or whatever.
+
+01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:08.000
+Oh my God, it's terrible how many years later it is.
+
+01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:13.000
+I told my wife it would be in the United States for five years.
+
+01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:19.000
+Now I weigh like 170 and that's so can wet.
+
+01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:21.000
+So I don't know what's going on here.
+
+01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:26.000
+Ladies and gentlemen, when I reflect on my history and my health history,
+
+01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:34.000
+my rabies vaccination sticks out pretty highly in my mind now.
+
+01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:43.000
+Because I don't take the flu vaccine. So the last vaccine I had as an adult was the rabies vaccine.
+
+01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:51.000
+And the last time I weighed more than 190 pounds was when I got off the plane in 2016.
+
+01:29:51.000 --> 01:30:01.000
+And I'm not blaming the rabies vaccine, but I have not been healthy in a very long time.
+
+01:30:01.000 --> 01:30:18.000
+And here just told us that herd immunity is vaccination plus infection and it just demands the real trick here is, you know, the time when you do vaccination, you know, if you vaccinated the wrong time, it might not give you herd immunity, it might just push the virus around
+
+01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:21.000
+and you'd create more infections.
+
+01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:28.000
+But if you vaccinated the right time, it's great.
+
+01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:37.000
+It's sufficiently large portion of the population develops, sterilizing immunity towards the circulating virus or the circulating publishing.
+
+01:30:37.000 --> 01:30:46.000
+So again, sufficiently large, not everybody needs to develop, sterilizing immunity, but a large portion of the population and sterilizing immunity. What does that mean?
+
+01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:53.000
+That means that you develop a kind of immunity that is able to eliminate the infection. That is very.
+
+01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:57.000
+I think that this has to be said for what it is.
+
+01:30:57.000 --> 01:31:08.000
+Two and a half years ago, I was teaching sterilizing immunity as a as a fact or as a known phenomenon. It's not a known phenomenon. It's not a fact.
+
+01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:19.000
+It is a concept that perfect immunity would result in sterilizing immunity that the virus wouldn't be able to replicate.
+
+01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:27.000
+A much more likely scenario is something very, very different. And I'm sure you can imagine it. This is biology.
+
+01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:37.000
+And so you just get rid of limited or reduced infection or you get limited and reduced infection that is tolerated.
+
+01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:46.000
+Where the immune response of inflammation, etc. is dampened after each exposure.
+
+01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:57.000
+But the virus is able to make little copies of itself sure and tell the T cells come in and find those cells and eliminate them because they're dividing anyway. Of course that's works. That's fine.
+
+01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:06.000
+Sterilizing immunity, I think, is something that has been more recently pushed to give the idea that that is a goal.
+
+01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:21.000
+That is a biologically achievable goal. And we should have that as a gold standard for what we expect for immunity. And if you can't prove that you're sterile, then you're infected.
+
+01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:26.000
+And that's why I think he's pushing this and he's been pushing it for a very long time.
+
+01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:42.000
+And in fact, I think that sterilizing immunity as a concept is something that just spontaneously appears in the literature. And certainly during the pandemic, this is one of the first guys pushing that concept regularly.
+
+01:32:43.000 --> 01:33:01.000
+And how in the beginning, he was saying that the transfection wouldn't give us sterilizing immunity. And I even wrote a review based on this guy's stuff in May of 2021, where I said that where I wrote that that sterilizing immunity wasn't possible with this, with this
+
+01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:14.000
+observational vaccine. So don't get me wrong. I'm still crawling out from underneath this rock. I'm not some kind of, I told you so a long time ago with this aspect of the things.
+
+01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:19.000
+I was fully under the spell of care at Funden Walsh. Absolutely, I was.
+
+01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:33.000
+And that's important and critical to understand. Here, herd immunity, however, will not prevent asymptomatic transmission in a population, because to prevent asymptomatic transmission in a population, you would need to eradicate the virus.
+
+01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:48.000
+I just told you before that if the virus becomes endemic, for example, we have this with influenza virus. We have this, for example, in many countries with for diseases like measles, for example, you can have asymptomatic transmission.
+
+01:33:48.000 --> 01:34:01.000
+The virus is still there. It can transmit without, you know, without causing any disease. So, you know, you don't, you don't see this, there is no outbreaks, but the virus can be transmitted.
+
+01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:17.000
+It will not prevent transmission, but and this is almost with regard to pandemics with regard to COVID-19, the accurate definition, it can diminish the level of viral transmission down to a level where individuals who have not been immunized.
+
+01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:32.000
+And for example, for lack of exposure to white virus or to live attenuated viruses are nevertheless protected from symptomatic infection. So you to herd immunity by the fact that a large part of the population will be able to eliminate the virus.
+
+01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:52.000
+This will result in levels of transmission that are so low that individuals who have not been exposed to the virus are nevertheless protected, not necessarily from infection, but from symptomatic infection, because the level of viral effectivity will be so low that it is not able to cause the disease.
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+It can cause asymptomatic infection as I just explained.
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+01:34:55.000 --> 01:35:06.000
+He is really contradicting himself though, right? Because the asymptomatic infection is the variance that will, from which is more infectious variants emerge.
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+01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:21.000
+You can't have it both ways. If the immune system being trained by the mRNA can push the virus into more infectious variants in one scenario, then if there's asymptomatic transmission in this scenario, then it should be evolving as well.
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+01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:33.000
+So something is really very contradictory all the time when you try to tell the story about viruses that can go around the world and that sometimes stop and sometimes don't.
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+01:35:33.000 --> 01:35:43.000
+Sometimes the RNA has the staying power of many decades and sometimes the RNA has the staying power of a puffball mushroom.
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+It's very, very strange. It's very, very strange.
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+01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:59.000
+They really think that they have most of our families and friends so bamboozled that they can just say whatever they want to, as long as it roughly lines up with what the TV has said for the last three years.
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+Not symptomatic infection, no disease. That is a definition of herd immunity.
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+01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:12.000
+So herd immunity is the cause of the self-limiting nature of pandemics triggered by viruses causing acute self-limiting viral infection.
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+So to control the spread of infectious viral disease, public health strategies have often simulated have often mimicked natural infection induced in unity by using life attenuated vaccines to fill the gaps in herd immunity.
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+So what does that mean? Well, because natural infection is so efficient in establishing or reestablishing herd immunity because it induces sterilizing immunity.
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+Public health authorities have learned from this and in cases, for example, there are gaps in herd immunity.
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+For example, when newborns, they are immunologically naive.
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+They are born, for example, in populations that have herd immunity, but they themselves are immunologically naive so they cannot contribute to this herd immunity.
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+So there is a gap in herd immunity. How can you fill up that gap in herd immunity?
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+01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:09.000
+Well, we know that live viruses can induce the sterilizing immunity.
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+Of course, you don't want to infect those children with veteran virus, but you can infect them with live attenuated viruses that will prevent the disease from developing, but that will enable the virus to infect this cohort of immunologically naive individuals,
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+for example, young children, and by doing so, you fill up that gap in herd immunity.
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+So the prophylactic immunization with live attenuated vaccines is the cornerstone of the childhood vaccination program aimed at protecting infants from measles, for example, mums, rubella, varicella, and polyovirus.
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+As a vaccinologist, I'm the first to say that, of course, in certain children very rarely, this can lead to adverse events because nevertheless you're still using a live virus.
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+01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:10.000
+The world has a weak immune system. It could still trigger disease and cause sick value, but it's the best we have right now to fill up gaps in herd immunity, not to protect just an individual.
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+That was some weak mealy mouth stuff right there, trying to say that live attenuated vaccines are causing something and that, you know, I'm acknowledging that occasionally there's injury.
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+That's some rich stuff right there. Live attenuated vaccines are not the ones that are causing the problems, a single shot of measles, a single shot of mumps, single shot of rubella.
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+None of these things were ever being cited as being part of this problem.
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+And he knows that. He knows that. It's the recombinant vaccines that are the problem because they require an adjuvant.
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+Goodness sakes care. Goodness sakes care.
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+01:38:51.000 --> 01:39:02.000
+Come on, these live attenuated vaccines are often oral or, or, or subcutaneous, you know, they're, they're, oh my gosh, come on.
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+01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:19.000
+But to protect an entire population. And I'm also the first as a vaccinologist to advocate for new methods to vaccine children in a way that we can strengthen their immunity without the need to use live attenuated vaccines, but that is, that is definitely for the future.
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+So by filling up gaps in herd immunity.
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+We're seeing that we should get rid of live attenuated vaccines and go to some other method, which is what, mRNA really safe genetic vaccines, because the recombinant vaccines don't work.
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+That's intramuscular injection of a combination of substances to augment the immune system. We already said that was dumb.
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+You've got to augment the immune system at a barrier.
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+We've got that at all. He's actually saying the live attenuated vaccines have hurt kids. And so we, I do agree that in the future, we should move away from live attenuated vaccines.
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+You know, the live attenuated vaccines that Krista seems to bell Ben and her colleagues have shown lead to five times less all cause mortality rate than the recombinant vaccines.
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+We've got vaccines to bell Ben's work. Man, oh man, this is, this is crazy.
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+Put immunization with live attenuated viruses, not only protects the immunologically naive infants themselves or children, but also indirectly.
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+01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:34.000
+That is very important protects other vulnerable people, such as the elderly and individuals with weakened immune systems.
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+The immunity renders these individuals and elderly people, people with underlying diseases, more susceptible to severe illness or complications from these infections.
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+And that is where herd immunity comes in. If you have herd immunity, these people can benefit from the herd immunity, despite the fact that they have a weakened immune system.
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+The threshold of zero conversion for the herd immunity varies depending on the level of preexisting population level innate immunity, viral infectiousness and viral shedding.
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+01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:13.000
+Well, this sounds complicated. It isn't. So if you get infected, for example, you will develop antibodies. If you are immunologically naive, you didn't have contact with the virus.
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+01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:20.000
+You certainly didn't have antibodies against the virus. All of a sudden, you get infected. You will develop antibodies.
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+If you are from white to black, you go from no antibodies to antibodies. That's what we call zero conversion.
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+01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:33.000
+So now you could say, well, if we have a pandemic, that's what authorities tried to do at the beginning. And that's also what they did in Sweden.
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+For example, when the pandemic came, they were looking how many people developed antibodies and based on these antibody levels, they were trying to make an estimate or whether or not you would have hurt immunity.
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+Because the more people get infected, the higher the likelihood you get to hurt immunity. And of course, the higher the likelihood that people develop antibodies that they still convert.
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+01:41:54.000 --> 01:42:05.000
+However, this very much depends the level of zero conversion, the rate of zero conversion in the population, of course, very much depends on the level of preexisting population level innate immunity.
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+For example, young children have innate antibodies that can protect against infection. So they are protected to a large extent by natural innate antibodies.
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+And of course, they will not zero convert because they are already protected. On the other hand, if you have, for example, a virus that has low infectivity, then of course fewer people will develop antibodies.
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+They will get infected, but primarily develop asymptomatic infection. They will develop a little bit of antibodies, but these antibodies will disappear within a few days, a few weeks.
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+01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:52.000
+So the zero conversion rate is also quite low and will be much lower compared to the cell conversion rate in a population that is exposed to a virus that is very infectious.
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+01:42:52.000 --> 01:43:02.000
+And that will, of course, spread rapidly and will, of course, lead to the elicitation of antibodies in many, many people. And also, it depends on viral shedding.
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+01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:21.000
+The amount of virus that is shed by an infected person, if that amount is pretty low because the shedding is pretty much under control, then again, it is an additional, an additional way, so to say, of protecting the population that requires less herd immunity, less immune responses because the shedding is low.
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+01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:33.000
+So also in populations, exposed to viruses that are shed at low rates, you will see that the cervical version rate is also pretty low, despite the fact that the research immunity.
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+01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:47.000
+So you cannot say, you know, for all kinds of populations, regardless of age, regardless of the infectivity of the virus, regardless of the transmissibility of the virus, you cannot say you need to have like 50% of cervical version to conclude on herd immunity.
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+That is impossible. Highly infectious viruses, for example, will spread more rapidly. You could say, wow, that's fantastic, because then we will have very fast, we will have very fast herd immunity.
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+01:43:57.000 --> 01:44:09.000
+Yes, that's true. So they enable the population to more rapidly reach herd immunity. However, the more infectious the virus, the higher also the incidence of disease and also the incidence of severe disease.
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+01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:19.000
+So it's so, remember that he told us that Omicron was going to be really handy because it was so infectious that it might vaccinate the whole world.
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+Carried funding bullshit is one of the guys that really said that first.
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+He seems to be describing that here, which is a little strange.
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+01:44:28.000 --> 01:44:47.000
+He's used the threshold of serial conversion to define where herd immunity begins, which means, again, he's defining herd immunity simply by antibodies.
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+01:44:47.000 --> 01:45:06.000
+It's all antibodies, serial conversion rate, viral shedding phenomenon that are very scary to somebody who doesn't really understand this biology, but completely reinforcing the Scooby-Doo of a novel virus that we had to do something for that the mRNA certainly helped.
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+01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:14.000
+And then it was definitely going to come again. This old talk has been about how it's coming all the time.
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+01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:29.000
+And previous acquired immunity is meaningless to hard-funded boast. There's no previous immunity to this, any other, no meaningful, nothing.
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+01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:46.000
+It comes with a price to pay. So fast herd immunity usually implies a higher level of viral infectivity, but a higher level of viral infectivity, especially if it is due to high intrinsic efficiencies of the virus will cause more cases of disease and severe disease.
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+In case the population benefits from some preexisting innate immune protection. That's what I explained a minute ago. For example, due to preexisting from preexisting, sorry, I'm trying to.
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+Okay, sorry. In case the population benefits from preexisting innate immune protection, for example, due to the preexisting innate or natural antibodies in young children, or, and we will come back to this, to reign innate immunity in healthy people that got infection.
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+01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:29.000
+So people can also train their innate immunity and make it so strong, basically, that they can be protected against infection, eliminate infection without having to rely on antibodies.
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+See, so here he's selling his product, because he's interested in modifying natural killer cells. And so he's saying that trained cell-based innate immunity, which is not T cells, innate immunity implies natural killer cells.
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+01:46:49.000 --> 01:47:10.000
+So what he's saying here is that besides innate immunity, there's antibodies. So he wants you to forget about T cells completely. Even though he did say cytotoxic T cells earlier, there are no previously activated and instructed T cells, which have any bearing on this virus that he's talking about here.
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+Otherwise, he would say that. That's why he chooses cell-based innate immunity.
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+01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:29.000
+And no antibodies in these people will be elicited or at most very, very low titers. So herd immunity in those cases will be achieved at much lower cell conversion rates of neutralizing antibodies.
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+01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:50.000
+So herd immunity versus herd immune selection pressure. So what is the difference? Well, when a sufficiently high fraction of the population exerts immune pressure on the virus, but that immune pressure does not suffice to kill the virus, to eliminate the virus.
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+If it's suboptimal, then what it does, it does not generate herd immunity. I was just saying, in order to generate herd immunity, a substantial fraction of the population needs to offer sterilizing immunity.
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+01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:17.000
+If that the immunity that is raised in the population is suboptimal and not inducing sterilization of the virus, what you get then is what I call not herd immunity, but herd immune selection pressure.
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+01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:31.000
+Remember, that was what we were saying at the beginning. If you exert immune pressure on the virus, but it's not sufficient to kill the virus, then you will give the opportunity to that population to select viral mutants that are able to.
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+What if I explained it this way? I hope this is going to work.
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+You are in, you're a dog, and you want to, you're afraid of people.
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+01:48:53.000 --> 01:49:09.000
+And so you're afraid of people, you're a dog, and your owner that made you afraid of people wears a red hat.
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+01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:17.000
+And that red hat means that every time that that dog, you, you, the dog sees another person with a red hat, you're especially stressed.
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+It's not good.
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+01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:34.000
+Now, the only way to get rid of that would be to have somebody with a red hat be really nice to the dog really, really often, while nobody with a red hat should hurt the dog anymore.
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+That learning that I just described with a dog is impossible in the immune system.
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+01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:59.000
+So, in other words, what you have done in this scenario is rather than let dogs become accustomed to their owners.
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+01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:08.000
+We have taught all the dogs in the world, no, this is going to go wrong here, this is probably going to go wrong here, this is not going to work right.
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+01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:10.000
+It's a bad analogy, sorry.
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+But the first part isn't wrong. A dog could become afraid of a certain type of person or with a certain person with a certain uniform on, and you could rehabilitate that dog by changing its experience around people with that uniform.
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+With the immune system, if the immune system is instructed to force to focus a complement of immune cells, T and B cells, to a particular protein, that memory is permanent.
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+01:50:47.000 --> 01:51:08.000
+And any time that memory is provoked, then T cells and B cells will go into an orchestration and attempt to further modify and specify that memory complement, that linked recognition associated with this epitope or set of epitopes.
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+01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:34.000
+What he's describing here, this immune selective pressure that could be raised as a result of transfection assumes that the immune system completely normally produces zero prevalence and therefore B cell and T cell memory to the spike protein and its epitopes as selected by your immune system.
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+It assumes no damage, it assumes no errors, it assumes no mimicry, it assumes no autoimmunity, and it assumes no other T cell or B cell or immune, sorry, innate memory matters for this virus.
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+01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:08.000
+It's really talking about a blank chalkboard and how that chalkboard needs to be filled in before people have herd immunity, nothing else previously matters.
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+01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:19.000
+And this is such a foundation for the faith because the faith is based on this is a novel virus that wasn't here before and everyone is vulnerable.
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+And so what he's doing is very carefully, and it's taken me a long time to get to this point.
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+I apologize, he is taking his through this hypnotic discussion, but he is laying down the mythology, the very foundation of what it means to be novel, what a novel response to a novel pathogen is in the cartoon representation of the simple immunology
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+of a pandemic.
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+And that is that you need to build antibodies and the antibodies are two certain targets.
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+And it's not a good idea to push one target at the start of a pandemic. That's all he's got.
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+And this cartoon does not question the faith at all. In fact, what he's pushing right now is exactly the faith.
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+Because the population has no meaningful fraction of immune response to a novel virus. That's the story he's telling you.
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+And so we've made a mistake by trying to augment the immune response to a particular protein when everyone was vulnerable.
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+A novel virus for which everyone was vulnerable.
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+Overcome this optimal immune pressure. And if that occurs at the population level, you will select variants that start that are more infectious and start to dominate in the population.
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+01:53:55.000 --> 01:54:04.000
+This sharply contrasts with the situation where a sufficiently large fraction of the population exists optimal immune pressure device optimal means sterilizing, then you have herd immunity.
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+01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:19.000
+So people are often confounding. Not at least our health authorities hurt immune selection pressure. This is, you know, referring to a population that may have, you know, high levels of antibodies that may have been vaccinated boosted, et cetera.
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+But that is not capable of killing the virus that is exerting some optimal immune pressure. That is hurt immune selection pressure, which only derives the propagation of more infectious variants.
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+01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:46.000
+A natural pandemic of always when at all talk about a pandemic, it's always a virus causing a new self limiting viral infection eventually generates optimal immunity in a sufficiently high fraction of the population to generate herd immunity against viral infectivity.
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+01:54:46.000 --> 01:55:03.000
+And that is what simply in a natural way and pandemic very, very logical mass vaccination. However, during a pandemic generates suboptimal immunity in a sufficiently high fraction of the population mass vaccination sufficiently high fraction of the population could be 40% 50% 60%
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+01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:29.000
+to generate not heard immunity, but heard immune selection pressure of viral effectiveness, which is not something we want. What is the key message really? Well, you know, the key message I mentioned it already is the only way if there is one thing that you, you know, keep in your head and for the rest of your life is that the only way for a population to end a pandemic is to establish
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+immunity. If you if the population cannot generate herd immunity, you will not end the pandemic. I would say in a friendly way. Okay, so this is the story and I'm afraid we're going to have to knock it down.
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+Or at least very much question the idea that my immunity affects your immunity.
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+That my vaccination status affects your potential health risks.
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+That heard, I mean, we are part of a herd.
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+01:56:00.000 --> 01:56:03.000
+Is not very far away from community health.
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+01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:08.000
+Not very far away from communal health, not very far away from public health.
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+And that is this illusion of everybody's vulnerable. Everybody has a role to play in this.
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+Everybody has an obligation in this.
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+That's where this is going. And I know that herd immunity is an old concept, but it's an old concept based on very bad epidemiological models of how disease passes.
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+01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:48.000
+And it doesn't take into account many, many other factors and with reasons why there has been an ever decreasing incline infectious diseases in the last decades.
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+But let's keep listening. I want to get done.
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+This requires a substantial part of the population to acquire sterilizing immunity. This can only occur if the population level in your response or population level in your response is the overall in your response of the population to the virus does not drive viral
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+immune escape. If you have not heard immunity, but you have a herd immune selection pressure, you will drive the propagation of more and more infectious variants.
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+01:57:14.000 --> 01:57:25.000
+And that drives viral immune escape and the antibodies, even if people were not vaccinated, but naturally infected cannot deal with this because the antibodies are no longer a good match to the new variants.
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+So now he's saying that even people who are naturally infected, their antibodies also can't handle the evolution of the virus being driven by the people who are vaccinated. Listen carefully to what he said, because this is important.
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+Because the antibodies are no longer a good match to the new variants that are now dominantly circulating.
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+01:57:49.000 --> 01:58:09.000
+So hurting unity naturally occurs during a natural pandemic, which is nice. And then you could ask the question again, why does natural pandemic not result in viral immune escape? And I will explain this in a second.
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+01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:16.000
+It's very important of course to understand. Vaccine coverage rates or vaccine induced antibody rates.
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+Is he saying this is not a natural pandemic then? Is that where he's going with this? Why does a natural pandemic not result in viral immune escape?
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+A such or not a reliable metric of the level of herd immunity generated during a pandemic.
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+01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:38.000
+So very often people say, wow, we have 80% of the people vaccinated or we have 20% naturally infected, 60% vaccinated, 20 and 60 is 80%.
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+01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:51.000
+So we should have herd immunity. In fact, that has nothing to do with herd immunity, as I said, it all has to do with sterilizing immunity and reducing the level of transmission of viral population.
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+01:58:51.000 --> 01:58:59.000
+And in the human population, and I will come to the explanation as to why a natural pandemic does not result into a viral immune escape.
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+01:58:59.000 --> 01:59:18.000
+But we should first maybe elaborate a little bit on the definition of of ethnicity, pandemicity and epidemicity because very often I see that these terms are mixed up and sometimes people refer to epidemics when they're talking about pandemics and vice versa.
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+So it's important to have very clear definitions on this that also makes sense and that one can use, you know, over and over again, you will not need to change those definitions as we have seen in the past, according to the evolution of the virus.
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+They are carved in stone, and they are like, you see them here, they are correct.
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+And the necessity refers to an infection that can spread asymptomatically in a specific geographic area or a specific population, and it's consistently present, but usually at a relatively low, but stable rate.
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+And it's only under certain conditions or in specific geographic areas or populations that endemic infections lead to outbreaks of disease, for example, measles in developing countries, for example, influenza also in our regions.
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+It's seasonal, so it's also due to a specific situation, but basically the virus is always there, right?
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+And it points to a gap in herd immunity and combined with a relatively high viral infection rate because gap in herd immunity, people, for example, elderly people in developing countries, I was talking about the measles, I was talking about the newborns, the immunologically naive people.
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+And if you combine this, for example, with a high viral infection rate, as we have in the winter season, because people are spending more time indoors, and for example, with measles, you have in certain countries due to poor hygienic conditions and also crowding, you get high viral infection rates.
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+02:00:48.000 --> 02:00:57.000
+This combination, the gap in herd immunity and relatively high viral infection rates can lead to outbreaks in countries in areas in populations where the virus is endemic.
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+02:00:57.000 --> 02:01:14.000
+So what is a pandemic or a pandemic refers to a sudden and a global spread of the infection with predominantly cases of asymptomatic and mild infection, that is the predominant mild infection means, okay, you can have mild symptoms, you can maybe be in bed for a day or two, but certainly not severe.
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+And fewer cases of moderate and severe disease, these are, you know, not necessarily the exceptions, but the vast minority of cases develop moderate or severe disease, the vast majority is asymptomatic and mild infection.
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+That's what we have seen at the beginning of this pandemic.
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+And this is simply due to the fact that there is no herd immunity population is immunologically naive, and therefore also the virus can spread very rapidly, and therefore it's a global spread.
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+Epidemic or epidemic refers to a sudden and widespread spread of the disease. I was saying, for example, MERS, SARS, acute self-limiting, viral diseases where the infection automatically causes symptoms, but because it causes symptoms, it's also relatively
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+easy to contain, to some regard, already spontaneously, because people who are in bed are, of course, not, you know, certainly things, so to say in society, they are not having contacts or they are hospitalized or when some people die, for example.
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+So it will automatically have a self-limiting effect just by the inherent nature of the disease, and it is easily too easy to intervene because public health measures can be very, very efficient, simply because you can, you only have to, in fact, track people who have symptoms because these
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+and only these are the people that are also shedding the virus and responsible for transmission.
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+So in those cases, there is no herd immunity, and there is a relatively high viral infection rate because it would not be a high viral infection rate, and the disease would be symptomatic, then, you know, most of the time, the virus would not spread, would not spread to several different countries because you couldn't immediately contain it.
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+It's because it has a high viral infection rate that, despite the fact that it's symptomatic, it can nevertheless spread to several different countries.
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+That's why we are often talking about the multi-country epidemics, but they are not evolving into pandemics.
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+So in order for a pandemic to classify, this is a direct consequence of what I'm saying of these definitions, to classify as a health emergency of international concern.
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+Remember, the WHO declared the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic as a health emergency of international concern, a health emergency is when you have a really major impact on people's health and of international concern.
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+It would need to involve a rapid and global spread, not of the infection as such, but of the disease, of symptomatic infection, because otherwise it would not be a health emergency.
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+So now, I would just say, if naturally a disease is symptomatic, it will be easy to contain it, and it will never evolve into a health emergency of an international, of a global concern, so to say.
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+So that is normally, normally impossible, because the symptomatic infections, as I was just saying, are rapidly self-limiting.
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+Unless, of course, unless the new response and or the virus are evolving to a more pathogenic form.
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+So that means that you could have a pandemic, the virus spread everywhere, if it's a natural pandemic, it will not be a health emergency of international concern, because vast majority of people will develop asymptomatic or mild infections.
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+Unless there is maybe an intervention that all of a sudden renders this virus that has spread worldwide, more pathogenic.
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+So I'm thinking of a new escape, for example, that could be responsible, or you would have, you know, abnormal immune responses, no lower, natural immune responses, but maybe immune responses that have been influenced, and that have been derailing,
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+maybe also due to some kind of external intervention, but nature doesn't do this. Nature will not make a pandemic a health emergency of international concern.
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+If that would be the case, you know, there would be a risk of disseminating or even eradicating the full human population, which has never ever been documented with any, with any natural pandemic.
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+So how does a natural pandemic end? Well, to ensure a sufficiently high percentage of the people develop stabilizing immunity, the virus needs to widely spread across the population.
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+As those susceptible to symptomatic infection will mount high antibody levels after the first wave, there is a risk that viral infectivity could fall below the minimal threshold required to ensure viral transmission towards the reminder to the remainder of the population.
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+So what I'm saying here is that during a natural pandemic, people get infected and will, you know, those who get symptomatic infection will mount high antibody levels after the first wave.
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+So now, because they have antibodies, they have, they are very well protected against the infection. And so there would be a risk that the infectiousness, the viral infectivity, stops there that the transmission of the virus stops there because it is controlled by people who have developed high levels of antibodies.
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+That of course would not be a good situation to develop herd immunity because in order to have herd immunity, you'd have herd immunity because the virus would be gone. What is he talking about?
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+What a weird story this is. If viral infectivity falls below the minimum threshold, then it fizzles out like every RNA virus has in the past.
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+It's like he's now fumbling the ball because he realizes, oh, yeah, wait, I already told you that RNA can't do this or I didn't tell you, but I'm telling you it.
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+What the hell is this? High antibody levels.
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+You need to widespread of the virus. And so there would be a risk if that would happen that viral infectivity falls below the minimal threshold that is required to ensure viral transmission to the remainder of the population.
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+So the remainder of population would no longer be infected. So this would of course prevent herd immunity from being established.
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+So there is a mechanism that during natural pandemics prevents this and that will ensure that the infection and the transmission of the virus continues despite the fact that already many people have developed protective antibodies after the first wave.
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+And this mechanism is very unique. I think this is really a fantastic phenomenon.
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+So those people who during the first wave developed asymptomatic infection, I told you, most of the people during a pandemic will develop asymptomatic of mild infection.
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+So how can nature then proceed in a way that these people will also have durable protection against infection to have durable protection against infection.
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+They need to develop antibodies. But if there is symptomatic in your mind infected, they will barely develop into any antibodies and they will be very, very shortly.
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+So well, these people who previously developed asymptomatic mild infection during the first wave, they become now more susceptible to infection. How does that work?
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+Well, this is because the antibodies that those people developed, I was just saying short lived and low titers and low neutralizing capacity.
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+They will enable non neutralizing antibodies to bind with low affinity to spike routine. That is through the internal domain of spike routine. That is a very conserved antigenic domain within spike routine.
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+And by binding to this internal domain, they will of course not neutralize a virus. I was just saying that a neutralizing capacity of this antibody is very, very lousy, but they will enable enhancement of viral entry into susceptible
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+host cells. And therefore, this part of the population, the largest part of the population that was previously asymptomatic infected will now become infected, predictably infected.
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+They will even develop disease and they will develop antibodies and they will promote a further spread of the infection so that the population can now acquire herd immunity.
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+So this antibody dependent enhancement of iron infection contributes to herd immunity and therefore reduces viral infectivity and transmission as a definition of herd immunity.
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+So this reduced viral infectivity and transmission prevents infection in experience individuals so individuals that haven't yet been infected at all from developing symptomatic infection and hence provides transition of viral infection into the endemic phase.
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+So that is how a natural pandemic ends. So I think.
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+So that's how a natural pandemic ends.
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+In other words, we're not having a natural pandemic anymore because we pushed it around.
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+In other words, we're not having a natural pandemic anymore because it was a lab league.
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+We're not having a natural pandemic anymore for any number of reasons but he's not really explaining it.
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+And it's driving me mixed nuts.
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+It really is driving me crazy.
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+This is the worst lecture introductory lecture to pandemic biology I've ever heard.
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+And they want you to pay $160 for the course that follows it.
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+I will stop here to leave time for a couple of questions and yeah, we will just continue with the rest of my slides in the next session.
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+But please also after this session. Don't be shy to send me comments because for me, it's also a new experience when you experiment. I don't know. I'm going too fast to slow.
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+It's what I'm saying redundant. I'm not making myself clear enough. I don't know. So I will be grateful for any of your comments. And if there are questions, I'm, of course, more than happy to take it.
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+Thanks.
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+Cut.
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+That was it.
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+So, of course, if you were in the course, you could have asked questions. And if I was in the course, I could ask questions.
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+I'm not sure what I'm going to gain from that, though. I gotta, I gotta see if I can do it. Maybe I can send an email to James Lyons while Aaron Hill let me take the course for free.
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+Maybe I can audit it.
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+I don't want to waste too much of my time, but on the other hand, I am very curious as to what people are going to learn because I have the feeling that the immunology course that was taught there by James Lyons Wilder is also pretty heavy on the antibody side of things.
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+And it's that tilt toward the role of antibodies and defending you from an a respiratory virus or from a virus that infects your gut.
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+And more importantly, the role of seroprevalent antibodies, which Dr. Joseph Lee is one of the guys making this argument first.
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+And foremost, me as the guy who made this argument first and foremost, that these IgG antibodies can't enter the lungs. They can't enter the mucosal layer. They can't pass into the gut.
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+So it's not really clear how an infection, which is occurring at these epithelial barriers, is going to be really helped by having seroprevalence of antibodies in circulation.
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+In the case of extreme viremia, perhaps in the case of exposure to an infectious clone, perhaps.
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+But if you have a normal respiratory virus that is productive in your lungs is shed into your mucus and that mucus goes down into your gut and a compliment of T cells in your lungs that's intolerant and a compliment of T cells that's tolerant in your gut.
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+Combine to orchestrate a systemic immune response to the exposure to that RNA seems pretty cut and dry.
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+And that's how that works.
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+And we're not talking about that. We're talking about immunity based on antibodies.
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+IMM, UN, ITY, that's what I got, bodies anti. That's what we're talking about here.
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+And that's unfortunate because we know that that's garbage, right? We know that that is garbage.
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+Ladies and gentlemen, they have misled us about a laboratory or a batcave zoonosis.
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+And I think that Herod Fund and Bosch plans to mislead us about the role of antibodies in our defense against a laboratory or batcave zoonosis.
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+We can dismiss this because we know there's a conflated background signal. We know he should have started by explaining all the PCR made this really bad.
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+He should have started by explaining that the sequencing could just be altered by the systematic change of the primer sets, of which there are at least 99, but up to 106 that are generally used in order to sequence a coronavirus from beginning to end.
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+And so the conflated background signal of previous coronavirus conflated background signal of RNA sequences that we don't understand
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+has been used to create the illusion of spread of variants around the world.
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+And it is actually the protocols and the transfection that have caused the vast majority of the excess deaths, all of them.
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+So the protocols are murder and transfection is in medicine.
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+If you think that an infectious clone was used to seed a few cases around the world, or thousands of cases around the world, it doesn't really matter.
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+If you think that a transfection agent was released, where people were just transfected with the spike protein and then that signal was conflated with a coronavirus signal,
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+because the WHO test used RNA-dependent RNA polymerase, and the United States test is currently using the N protein.
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+So the protein that is very specific for SARS-CoV-2 isn't even part of the testing protocol. It may never have been.
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+So in reality, we're talking about a whole bunch of different ways that a conflated background signal added or not added, enhanced or not enhanced,
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+could have been used to create a situation where doctors were tricked, coerced, and bullied into executing protocols that were essentially murder and transfection is in medicine.
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+I think we can safely say that this no-virus group has been a distraction for a while, and if they convert to the right story now, that's great, but let's not forget they didn't help us for three years.
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+Let's not forget that Kevin McCarran was saying Andy Kaufman's name and Bailey's name out loud all the time.
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+Let's not forget that that was one of his primary missions from day one was debunking the no-virus people, and the list of them was short.
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+So rather than ignoring them, he promoted them. He made memes of them.
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+Protocols are murder and transfection is in medicine.
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+These people lied to us about biology, including the biology of gang-of-function viruses in order to invert our rights to a set of permissions.
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+And the thing that they inverted was the very basic biology of our immune system, and they've had this plan of inversion in place for a long time, and it is evident in the childhood vaccination schedule of America when compared to other countries.
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+The nuts have not gone down well in my constricted throat, and that's what this change in our way we think has allowed them to do, and we have been duped into believing that this was caused by a dangerous virus instead of a dangerous, a dangerous plan.
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+And I think that we have come up with the biology that explains how this was a dangerous plan rather than a dangerous accident.
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+And the dangerous plan is continuing. I'm going to need to cut it short. I can barely talk.
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+The dangerous plan is continuing because this is how they plan to govern us.
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+They plan to govern the world with a mythology that unites us.
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+A mythology about gang-of-function viruses and the danger of pandemics.
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+And a mythology about AI and how AI can control us, but also help us.
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+A mythology about how we're about to, we're on the cusp of, we're just crossing the hill where we're going to be able to augment our genome.
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+And the personalized medicine is an almost realized reality.
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+And the climate change is something that needs to be fought because within five years everything could fall apart.
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+This is the new mythology that they want to govern our children with, that they are misleading our children with, and that we have to fight until our very last breath.
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+And this has been GIGO and Biological, a high-resistance, low-noise information stream brought to you by a biologist.
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+You can get me in touch with me at GIGOOM.BY or GIGOOMBiological.com.
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+Thank you very much for joining me. Sorry, my voice is given out.
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+Intramuscular injection is not a valid means of immunization. You can say it's shorter by same transfection as an immunization.
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+But it actually applies to more than the current shots.
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+Please stop transfection in humans because they are trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary.
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+This has been GIGOOMBiological.
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+Twenty-three days in a row I think. Keeping it going. I'm going to try to get to 600.
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+I don't know how to grasp my voice. I might start coaching my boys basketball team. That's not going to go well for my voice.
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+I'll tell you that. I'll tell you that much. But my boy did really well in the first tryouts and I don't know man.
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+If I can coach my boys basketball team, I might have to stop streaming a little bit less.
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+Honey and vinegar, Pamela. Love you babe.
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+Honey and apple cider vinegar. Maybe a little lemon in there too. I'll do it. I'll do it, I promise.
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+September 29th
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+And we're going to take another look at how this limited spectrum of debate has been carefully crafted
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+Good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is Giga home biological high-resistance low-noise information brief brought to you by biologists
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+My name is Jonathan Cooley. I'm broadcasting from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
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+It is the 29th of September
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+2023 and it is date night with Robert and Jill Mark and Cheryl
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+I don't want you to take the debate on TV and social media, please don't
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+fooling around on social media can inadvertently
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+Result in you taking the bait. I apologize
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+It is already late here in Pittsburgh and it was it's still Friday. This was a work day
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+We're still trying to take down this Scooby-Doo this idea that we've been fooled into food to
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+Bob
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+Figuring out what this mystery is who did it who done it who's responsible
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+And I think that pivoting around on this
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+This idea. I think it's really fun sometimes to consider
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+The concept that you know, let me see if I can adjust this. I don't know if this is on already or not
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+I think it is
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+It's it's interesting to adjust this concept in your head and to understand that a sort of chaotic
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+Almost a mirror image of people who were like crazy idea
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+07:21.140 --> 07:23.140
+It's the only thing that makes sense
+
+07:24.140 --> 07:30.020
+And it's it was such a weird parallel between the way that the people who watch Fox News
+
+07:30.340 --> 07:36.660
+Think about the people who watch CNN and the people who watch CNN think about the people who watch Fox News and
+
+07:38.100 --> 07:40.660
+The to think that the people within this
+
+07:42.740 --> 07:44.740
+Obvious cognitive trap
+
+07:45.380 --> 07:53.820
+We're completely wholly aware of the ridiculous nature of their their circumstances and still we were stuck in it all of us
+
+07:54.460 --> 08:01.300
+And it's especially evident when somebody points out people who can't think straight when trial Trump is in the conversation
+
+08:01.740 --> 08:07.620
+But it actually also happens with lab leak and with vaccines and with climate change
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+08:08.300 --> 08:10.980
+with abortion with gay marriage with
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+08:11.980 --> 08:14.780
+Transsexual and transgenderism whatever you call that stuff
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+08:15.820 --> 08:17.340
+There's this
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+08:17.340 --> 08:19.340
+You guys don't get it
+
+08:19.340 --> 08:25.620
+You guys don't get it kind of attitude that is really spectacular in the way that it is completely severed
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+08:26.060 --> 08:27.460
+the way
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+08:27.460 --> 08:28.740
+that we
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+08:28.740 --> 08:34.940
+Think of ourselves as a nation and the way that we interact with one another as fellow citizens. It is extraordinary
+
+08:35.500 --> 08:39.500
+I don't think ever before in the history of America hasn't been so clear
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+08:40.220 --> 08:45.300
+clearly divided in a way that you almost can't shake hands with certain people and
+
+08:45.660 --> 08:51.500
+That's really it is quite frightening if we think about it, but I actually think that the lies
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+08:52.500 --> 08:54.500
+And it is the lies
+
+08:54.500 --> 08:59.540
+And I think we might even find out that the lies go way beyond the lies about immunology
+
+09:00.420 --> 09:04.620
+If it was only that they lied about the causes of respiratory disease
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+09:04.620 --> 09:07.060
+It was only that they lied about all cause mortality
+
+09:07.860 --> 09:14.820
+It's only that they were just lying about our immune response to a disease or they were just lying about vaccination
+
+09:16.180 --> 09:20.700
+But think about all the other things that you know that they're lying about
+
+09:25.140 --> 09:31.780
+And think about all the things that they're able to do for all the lives that they tell when just for these four lies
+
+09:32.300 --> 09:34.460
+Behind me. They were able to do all of this
+
+09:35.260 --> 09:37.260
+For three years straight
+
+09:38.340 --> 09:40.340
+Completely fooling a planet
+
+09:42.140 --> 09:46.580
+And what this should wake you up to is the possibility the potential
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+09:47.340 --> 09:51.300
+For governance around the world by what is essentially lies
+
+09:53.060 --> 09:58.780
+Why let things happen and then have to put out fires when you can start fires and put them out
+
+09:58.780 --> 10:08.820
+Or when you can claim that there's fires and you have the solution for never having fires again
+
+10:10.780 --> 10:19.420
+You see this is the kind of governance idea the structure the the concept of fifth generation warfare
+
+10:20.180 --> 10:22.180
+It's a bad it's a bad name
+
+10:23.180 --> 10:30.460
+Fifth generation governance is what it ought to be called and that's what's happening here. It's fifth generation governance
+
+10:30.460 --> 10:32.860
+They are fracturing their citizenry
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+10:33.900 --> 10:37.700
+cognitively into groups which by definition
+
+10:38.420 --> 10:43.740
+Can't reconcile their differences because they're asking the wrong questions as Mark
+
+10:44.820 --> 10:47.100
+Coolack said so nicely earlier today
+
+10:47.940 --> 10:53.980
+We have been tricked into asking the wrong questions. We've been tricked into solving the wrong mystery and
+
+10:55.820 --> 11:02.020
+In so doing we accept all the premises of said mystery all the premises of said question
+
+11:04.940 --> 11:12.700
+And that was what keeping this debate about gain of function or whether it could be accessed in cell culture and animal passage or whether you could stitch
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+11:13.100 --> 11:16.140
+viruses together or not that whole debate
+
+11:17.740 --> 11:23.980
+If you accept the premise of that debate, then you accept that there might be a reason why you need to give up your sovereignty
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+11:25.140 --> 11:27.140
+for permissions
+
+11:27.460 --> 11:29.460
+There might be a really good reason
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+11:30.300 --> 11:33.900
+if you accept the premise of this mythology and
+
+11:35.700 --> 11:43.300
+That's again what the sculpting of this debate was to make you know Sam Harris make you feel dumb for thinking that there might be a gray area there
+
+11:43.460 --> 11:51.020
+For Jordan Peterson for making you think it might be dumb that there would be a gray area in terms of taking an RNA shot for this
+
+11:52.620 --> 11:57.680
+That all of these people on this screen more or less made it a gray area as to whether you should do
+
+11:58.380 --> 12:00.380
+anything but listen to the government
+
+12:00.740 --> 12:02.740
+It would be ridiculous not to
+
+12:04.540 --> 12:07.420
+What did Jordan Peterson say fear as I might
+
+12:09.220 --> 12:12.260
+For our loss of rights and liberties and what this means
+
+12:13.300 --> 12:15.300
+you
+
+12:15.660 --> 12:17.180
+Don't have
+
+12:17.180 --> 12:20.100
+Principles in an emergency, then you don't have principles
+
+12:20.580 --> 12:25.540
+Said Alexandra's marinose friend of Brett Weinstein on the Brett Weinstein podcast
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+12:27.060 --> 12:31.140
+If you don't have principles during an emergency, you don't have principles
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+12:32.340 --> 12:33.100
+and
+
+12:33.100 --> 12:36.360
+What our governments around the world have shown in unison
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+12:37.320 --> 12:44.800
+In perfect synchrony is that we don't have principles during in a declared emergency like one like this
+
+12:46.880 --> 12:52.760
+And now you can see who has principles by who's willing to tell this story from beginning to end
+
+12:52.760 --> 12:56.960
+Who's willing to start from the beginning and start at the beginning all the time?
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+12:58.680 --> 13:04.600
+Anybody who doesn't start at the beginning all the time in my humble opinion is not playing your straight
+
+13:07.360 --> 13:08.640
+a
+
+13:08.640 --> 13:14.680
+Very good example might be the fact that the United States government sent your son over to Iraq
+
+13:14.680 --> 13:20.840
+And your son was over and served in Iraq for ten years and over those ten years. He was injured
+
+13:21.280 --> 13:23.280
+He got cancer
+
+13:23.280 --> 13:25.280
+He's mentally ill
+
+13:26.240 --> 13:28.240
+He hits his wife
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+13:28.680 --> 13:30.600
+and
+
+13:30.600 --> 13:32.600
+He shop-lifted
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+13:33.000 --> 13:35.560
+And so the government comes to your house
+
+13:36.360 --> 13:40.160
+And says, you know, your son is a pretty big problem because you know
+
+13:40.640 --> 13:45.080
+You don't seem to you don't seem to understand that he's shoplifting and all this other stuff
+
+13:47.040 --> 13:50.200
+As if that's you know the whole story
+
+13:51.280 --> 13:53.280
+If that's really what's going on here
+
+13:54.280 --> 13:56.640
+Not the denial of his VA benefits
+
+13:58.440 --> 14:03.520
+And so if somebody comes to you and says man, I can't believe how we're here and you know this
+
+14:04.000 --> 14:07.280
+This whole thing is just nuts. The shot is just terrible
+
+14:07.920 --> 14:10.640
+The shot is killing all these people. I get it
+
+14:11.320 --> 14:13.800
+Don't you get me wrong? I get it
+
+14:14.560 --> 14:20.760
+But don't let people focus you on all these people that are being hurt by the mRNA shot
+
+14:23.080 --> 14:27.240
+And let you forget that for two years
+
+14:29.160 --> 14:32.320
+Ladies and gentlemen and certainly for a year and a half
+
+14:33.520 --> 14:36.000
+This was wholly a fraud
+
+14:37.360 --> 14:44.800
+About shifting money shifting power and worse than all misleading the young
+
+14:47.120 --> 14:52.640
+Misleading young people about the existence of and the appropriate response to
+
+14:54.160 --> 14:57.800
+RNA viruses RNA molecules in nature
+
+14:58.800 --> 15:05.320
+Think about how ridiculous it sounds if you just substitute the word from virus to molecules
+
+15:05.320 --> 15:07.320
+Which is really not that big of a substitution
+
+15:09.080 --> 15:11.080
+Virus has a few more proteins
+
+15:11.960 --> 15:14.840
+So just call it that then protein coated RNA
+
+15:17.680 --> 15:23.640
+You are misleading the young about the appropriate response for detected
+
+15:24.640 --> 15:29.200
+Protein coated RNA at best. That's the best you've got
+
+15:30.040 --> 15:33.680
+Here when you describe what these despicable people have done and
+
+15:34.400 --> 15:40.680
+In order to describe the depth and the breadth of the despicable nature of their actions. You must not forget any of this and
+
+15:41.880 --> 15:45.320
+Everybody who's leading us back down into the cave
+
+15:47.440 --> 15:51.440
+Tricking us into following them back down into the cold dark cave
+
+15:52.400 --> 15:54.480
+Those people aren't talking about this stuff
+
+15:56.320 --> 15:58.320
+And it's mostly these people
+
+15:59.080 --> 16:01.080
+Definitely all the people at the bottom
+
+16:01.280 --> 16:04.880
+But a lot of the people up here all along this red triangle
+
+16:06.160 --> 16:09.840
+Because none of them are questioning the protocols the spread or the variants
+
+16:11.040 --> 16:13.040
+And that's really the trick
+
+16:14.400 --> 16:16.400
+If you accept this model of
+
+16:17.280 --> 16:20.960
+Of worldwide virology, you know, like Monday night football
+
+16:21.680 --> 16:23.680
+Then then no
+
+16:23.920 --> 16:25.920
+You can't escape
+
+16:26.080 --> 16:31.680
+The whole justification for this unified governance in the world in the next years
+
+16:32.240 --> 16:37.760
+Is going to be largely climate change and the worldwide virology web
+
+16:37.760 --> 16:39.760
+And
+
+16:44.960 --> 16:48.880
+So i've been trying to find ways to say this succinctly to people. I think
+
+16:49.120 --> 16:52.560
+Transfection is not immunization works great if you know what those words mean
+
+16:54.640 --> 16:56.160
+But if you don't
+
+16:56.160 --> 17:03.120
+It might be easier to say intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb
+
+17:03.120 --> 17:05.120
+Um
+
+17:06.720 --> 17:08.720
+Silly misguided
+
+17:09.760 --> 17:11.760
+You know choose your word there
+
+17:12.320 --> 17:17.200
+Misguided doesn't really fit at that font size and I want to change it all so, you know, whatever
+
+17:17.840 --> 17:21.600
+If you're offended with my word choice, I apologize sometimes it needs to be blunt
+
+17:22.240 --> 17:26.480
+We've been trying to figure out how these pieces fit together how these people fit together
+
+17:27.360 --> 17:29.360
+Why it is that certain people
+
+17:29.840 --> 17:33.360
+seem to amplify certain other people but ignore other people
+
+17:34.880 --> 17:36.880
+And uh, yeah
+
+17:37.440 --> 17:40.800
+A lot of the the the the people that have risen
+
+17:42.240 --> 17:43.680
+Um
+
+17:43.680 --> 17:45.680
+You know as the pot has boiled
+
+17:46.160 --> 17:48.320
+The stuff that has risen to the top. Um
+
+17:49.200 --> 17:51.200
+It seems to be that the
+
+17:51.760 --> 17:53.760
+the first
+
+17:54.080 --> 17:56.080
+What is it?
+
+17:56.080 --> 18:02.240
+The first gnocchi that rises up from the from the boiling pot are these four guys every time we
+
+18:02.880 --> 18:05.120
+Start to make dinner and think about okay, let's
+
+18:06.080 --> 18:12.320
+Who was crafting and and guiding this narrative in 2020 and 2021?
+
+18:13.440 --> 18:15.920
+It's just a really weird mix of people
+
+18:16.720 --> 18:19.520
+That all end up talking to and about each other
+
+18:20.320 --> 18:22.480
+Throughout the pandemic as they each
+
+18:23.440 --> 18:25.440
+Have entered the scene
+
+18:25.920 --> 18:29.520
+And so I find it very extraordinary to follow these tracks and
+
+18:30.400 --> 18:32.480
+one of my favorites, of course is
+
+18:45.040 --> 18:51.600
+So I found a video called wine country conversations and it's an archived video from them. I believe
+
+18:52.000 --> 18:53.760
+In
+
+18:53.760 --> 18:55.760
+2023
+
+18:56.560 --> 19:01.360
+I've had a hard time verifying it could be 22, but it's may
+
+19:02.480 --> 19:05.360
+2023 on bitchoo as far as I can tell
+
+19:06.640 --> 19:09.200
+And we'll just listen in because again, I haven't heard it
+
+19:10.320 --> 19:14.720
+But the reason why I chose it and the reason why I saved it on my list was because it's Jill and
+
+19:15.600 --> 19:17.600
+Robert
+
+19:17.600 --> 19:21.280
+Unstage and I really like to watch them and listen to them together because
+
+19:22.800 --> 19:24.800
+It's impossible to miss
+
+19:25.600 --> 19:32.000
+The intellectual link between them and I'm not talking about, you know, the twinkle in their eye or that they've been in love since they were in high school or
+
+19:32.720 --> 19:34.240
+They're in they
+
+19:34.240 --> 19:38.160
+They're shared thought of their horses at home. I'm talking about
+
+19:39.120 --> 19:41.120
+This idea of how
+
+19:41.760 --> 19:43.520
+Focused
+
+19:43.520 --> 19:45.440
+They are
+
+19:45.440 --> 19:47.440
+When they go into public
+
+19:48.800 --> 19:50.800
+As
+
+19:51.040 --> 19:53.040
+Public speakers
+
+19:53.600 --> 19:55.520
+Call them performers call them
+
+19:56.480 --> 19:57.840
+Call them
+
+19:57.840 --> 20:03.840
+Orators, I I don't know what they are if you as a married couple if you just think about it
+
+20:03.840 --> 20:05.840
+If I think about myself and fearless
+
+20:07.040 --> 20:12.560
+Going on stage to talk together or or be present together
+
+20:12.560 --> 20:16.640
+Even if I was going to go teach immunology and she was going to sit up there on stage
+
+20:20.000 --> 20:22.000
+What kind of
+
+20:23.600 --> 20:26.000
+Thing does that say about what's going on there?
+
+20:26.000 --> 20:31.120
+What kind of message are you sending? And I think it's a very interesting one because again
+
+20:31.920 --> 20:33.920
+most of the time
+
+20:34.800 --> 20:40.240
+We think of Robert Malone. We see Robert Malone as sort of self touring ball by himself guy
+
+20:40.320 --> 20:42.480
+but in reality, it's him and Jill
+
+20:43.760 --> 20:44.880
+and
+
+20:44.880 --> 20:50.400
+Jill and Robert write a lot of the sub-stacks together along with their staff of 40 or 50
+
+20:52.160 --> 20:56.560
+English major soldiers or whatever it is that produces all of those articles
+
+20:57.360 --> 21:01.920
+I guess they're writing while the soldiers are working in the barn and feeding the emus
+
+21:02.480 --> 21:03.760
+but
+
+21:03.760 --> 21:05.120
+it's a
+
+21:05.120 --> 21:07.520
+it's a real jogger knot of
+
+21:08.080 --> 21:09.600
+information
+
+21:09.600 --> 21:11.600
+and messaging coming from
+
+21:11.920 --> 21:18.720
+Robert Malone's sub-stack and all of the appearances that he makes and you might not be aware that Jill Malone has made a few
+
+21:19.280 --> 21:21.920
+Solo appearances that I've also logged in our guide
+
+21:24.320 --> 21:29.760
+So we have a lot of work to do but I thought this one was a really interesting one and because I knew that there was a date night tonight
+
+21:29.760 --> 21:32.400
+I thought I would choose this one because this is date night. So
+
+21:33.760 --> 21:35.920
+Anyway, I'm going to give my breath a rest
+
+21:36.000 --> 21:37.520
+I
+
+21:37.520 --> 21:42.160
+I'm not sure how to figure that out, but we'll figure it out. Don't worry about me. I'm not going to
+
+21:42.800 --> 21:44.800
+Kroke or something like that. Here we go
+
+21:45.280 --> 21:49.120
+So this is the setting right look how cool this is and they're both going to have microphones
+
+21:49.680 --> 21:52.240
+So you might think at any moment there would be a
+
+21:52.960 --> 21:58.080
+A stage handle come out with like a pair of guitars and they're going to sit down and start singing
+
+21:59.200 --> 22:01.920
+It would be it would be the classic of all classics, wouldn't it?
+
+22:02.880 --> 22:03.920
+All right, y'all well
+
+22:03.920 --> 22:08.160
+I am just as excited as you are to welcome our first speakers of the day
+
+22:08.560 --> 22:13.600
+Yeah, you may know him as the doctor who broke the internet on the joe rogan podcast and
+
+22:16.080 --> 22:18.080
+Yes, that deserves a round of applause
+
+22:18.400 --> 22:26.640
+Or the scientist who invented the m rma vaccine technology and you've probably seen some of his famous beaches from rallies and conferences around the world
+
+22:27.040 --> 22:31.600
+Um, and you know what I was testing test test testing in some rap videos lately. So
+
+22:32.720 --> 22:37.040
+I think that's pretty exciting. We have the mule. Oh, yeah, she said rap videos and stuff. Did you hear that?
+
+22:37.040 --> 22:37.920
+That's pretty funny
+
+22:37.920 --> 22:40.160
+Which is from rallies and conferences around the world
+
+22:40.720 --> 22:44.720
+And you know what I was just told that he's even been starring in some rap videos lately
+
+22:44.880 --> 22:48.800
+So because that makes sense, right? If you're trying to save the world
+
+22:49.840 --> 22:54.160
+From from going overboard using a technology that they shouldn't trust
+
+22:55.120 --> 22:57.600
+Using a technology that's been rushed
+
+23:00.160 --> 23:05.120
+What better way to do it than to be in some rap videos, right? I mean it makes perfect sense
+
+23:06.080 --> 23:11.360
+if you have to choose between splitting your time with news appearances or
+
+23:12.240 --> 23:14.240
+rallies like this one or
+
+23:14.560 --> 23:16.560
+or podcasts
+
+23:16.880 --> 23:23.040
+I mean, why wouldn't you choose to spend hours on a set for a for a rap video or even 20 minutes
+
+23:23.920 --> 23:25.920
+Why not?
+
+23:26.720 --> 23:29.440
+I think that's pretty exciting. We have the music thing in common
+
+23:30.480 --> 23:39.120
+um, dr. Robert Malone is a scientist physician writer podcaster commentator advocate and strong believer in our fundamental freedom of speech
+
+23:41.680 --> 23:43.680
+I have my notes here
+
+23:45.440 --> 23:47.440
+There's so much I don't want to forget anything
+
+23:53.040 --> 23:58.080
+Okay, and then dr. Jill Malone is a specialist in public policy and biotechnology
+
+23:58.640 --> 24:06.400
+She is the co-founder of several biotech companies and has held positions in academia and has an extensive publication record
+
+24:06.880 --> 24:08.960
+That's a weird list of things to say
+
+24:10.640 --> 24:12.640
+I thought she had like a
+
+24:12.640 --> 24:19.760
+Her degree is not exactly in biotech or biology or whatever is it? It's what the hell was that
+
+24:19.760 --> 24:24.400
+Wrong believer in our fundamental freedom of speech
+
+24:27.040 --> 24:29.040
+I have my notes here
+
+24:30.720 --> 24:32.720
+There's so much I don't want to forget anything
+
+24:32.960 --> 24:34.960
+um
+
+24:38.240 --> 24:43.360
+Okay, and then dr. Jill Malone is a specialist in public policy and biotechnology
+
+24:43.920 --> 24:51.680
+She is the co-founder of several biotech companies and has held positions in academia and has an extensive publication record
+
+24:52.240 --> 24:57.280
+Um, she currently shares writing responsibilities for dr. Malone's sub stack, which i'm sure you've all read
+
+24:57.440 --> 25:00.240
+Which reaches almost a million people per day
+
+25:00.960 --> 25:08.880
+From their high school days in here in california and sanabarbra to breeding lucetanas on the east coast and simultaneously trying to save the world
+
+25:09.520 --> 25:16.080
+Uh, then melones have worked together as a dynamic team for decades. I think so they're trying to save the world
+
+25:17.040 --> 25:22.480
+I'm just going to briefly reduce this the crickets annoying if they're annoying. I can change them
+
+25:23.200 --> 25:25.200
+um
+
+25:35.600 --> 25:39.280
+Just to give you a taste of what we're talking about here
+
+25:39.280 --> 25:41.280
+So
+
+25:49.200 --> 25:53.120
+So it's different as you know that with equity comes
+
+25:56.640 --> 25:58.720
+Class please welcome the new student robert
+
+25:59.600 --> 26:01.600
+Welcome robert
+
+26:02.400 --> 26:07.280
+Well, thanks for the warm welcome teach it's lit no cap take a seat
+
+26:10.240 --> 26:12.240
+It's something in each and every one of you
+
+26:17.440 --> 26:22.880
+Are you surprised to see him in this video too? You didn't think he was a good guy, did you?
+
+26:22.880 --> 26:24.880
+Oh
+
+26:35.760 --> 26:38.080
+Okay, we're not gonna do that. I'm sorry. I didn't wanna
+
+26:38.880 --> 26:40.720
+Didn't even want you to have the hint
+
+26:41.360 --> 26:44.000
+That you thought that maybe we were gonna do that. We're not gonna do that
+
+26:44.000 --> 26:47.360
+I just thought it was you to see the beginning of that to realize the extent
+
+26:48.400 --> 26:50.400
+to which we've been had
+
+26:50.640 --> 26:54.560
+Okay, that's not something to be laughed at or sneezed at
+
+26:55.680 --> 26:58.240
+Somebody who's trying to save the world doesn't do that
+
+26:58.800 --> 26:59.760
+Okay
+
+26:59.760 --> 27:05.760
+I think it's just so cool. Please help get me a warm wine country. Welcome to doctors robert and jill melon
+
+27:05.840 --> 27:09.920
+Give him a warm country wine country. Welcome for supporting
+
+27:11.600 --> 27:13.600
+the unity project has really
+
+27:14.560 --> 27:21.200
+A risen from california because of what you've all been subjected to i'm just trying to adjust the volume here
+
+27:21.440 --> 27:26.480
+Even before it existed the founder founding investor jeb hanson
+
+27:28.320 --> 27:30.320
+Actually called me out of the blue one
+
+27:31.280 --> 27:36.240
+Jesus jill and i maybe they malayle just in a trip to monry bay
+
+27:37.520 --> 27:43.520
+To visit our younger son who lives in davis. She'll get louder in a minute go whale watching to jill's great regret
+
+27:44.080 --> 27:46.080
+um and
+
+27:46.080 --> 27:49.600
+And i had been just to tell the story i had been really suffering
+
+27:50.320 --> 27:54.320
+Both with long covid and with post-vaccination syndrome
+
+27:55.120 --> 27:57.120
+And just a few days before
+
+27:57.520 --> 27:59.520
+long covid
+
+28:00.240 --> 28:04.400
+Long covid and post-vaccination syndrome. I mean did you hear that
+
+28:06.000 --> 28:07.200
+He is
+
+28:07.200 --> 28:13.360
+He had he had the first case of covid on the east coast and he was at the super spreader event
+
+28:13.360 --> 28:15.360
+at some boston conference
+
+28:16.080 --> 28:20.080
+And he had long covid then he had post-vax syndrome
+
+28:23.120 --> 28:25.120
+Or we traveled out here
+
+28:25.440 --> 28:28.000
+uh to um hang out with our son
+
+28:29.360 --> 28:35.840
+Meryl nast had visited the farm to carry together with mary hall and these are two of the leaders of children's health defense
+
+28:35.840 --> 28:37.840
+See i think it's 10 22
+
+28:37.840 --> 28:42.640
+Good chat and mary had said robert what you need to do is take some
+
+28:43.280 --> 28:45.280
+ivermectin
+
+28:46.320 --> 28:48.320
+and
+
+28:48.480 --> 28:54.320
+And so she prescribed it and you need to do is take some ivermectin
+
+28:56.480 --> 28:58.480
+and
+
+28:58.640 --> 29:01.200
+And so she prescribed it and
+
+29:02.400 --> 29:04.720
+I started taking it immediately before we went out
+
+29:05.520 --> 29:10.080
+And up until that point joe can attest it was hard for me to do farm chores
+
+29:10.160 --> 29:15.440
+I usually cannot work a 20-year-old because i've been we've i think this is our fifth or sixth small farm
+
+29:15.920 --> 29:19.920
+And as as i think you said you were suffering first from long covid and then
+
+29:20.480 --> 29:26.320
+vaccine injury the post-vaccination syndrome and uh so I started taking ivermectin and it stunned me
+
+29:26.800 --> 29:29.760
+I out height our 20-something sun
+
+29:30.320 --> 29:33.760
+uh along big surf did he report this on the
+
+29:34.720 --> 29:36.720
+Brett Weinstein podcast
+
+29:37.680 --> 29:40.160
+I honestly don't remember him saying this
+
+29:42.160 --> 29:44.560
+I remember him saying maybe that he took
+
+29:45.760 --> 29:51.280
+He took the shot because he thought it might help with long covid that there was rumors on the internet that it might help with long covid
+
+29:51.280 --> 29:53.280
+So he took the shot, but it didn't help
+
+29:55.680 --> 29:59.600
+But I never heard that he took I never heard that he took
+
+30:00.400 --> 30:02.400
+Ivermectin
+
+30:02.480 --> 30:05.520
+And then uh he could out hike his son
+
+30:06.480 --> 30:08.400
+Wow, that's interesting. Isn't it?
+
+30:09.680 --> 30:14.720
+That's interesting. I thought he took pepsen or something and I was like oh this stuff clearly works
+
+30:16.800 --> 30:22.800
+Um, and it was only like two days in right with the treatment. He was it was amazing the response that I had
+
+30:23.360 --> 30:25.360
+Wow now I know
+
+30:25.920 --> 30:27.920
+I know he didn't say that
+
+30:28.880 --> 30:31.680
+Because they started the Brett Weinstein podcast with
+
+30:33.280 --> 30:37.680
+Robert Malone was safe because he had been twice vaccinated and infected
+
+30:38.480 --> 30:41.280
+Steve curse was safe because he was twice vaccinated
+
+30:41.760 --> 30:47.600
+And Brett Weinstein was safe because he was taking ivermectin prophylactically if ivermectin
+
+30:48.640 --> 30:55.200
+Had cleared Robert Malone's long covid and post vax syndrome
+
+30:56.320 --> 30:58.320
+in two days
+
+30:58.800 --> 31:05.360
+Then he would have been able to say that on the Brett Weinstein podcast because on the Brett Weinstein podcast
+
+31:05.440 --> 31:10.320
+He was speaking of both his shots and his long covid
+
+31:11.360 --> 31:13.600
+as being kind of more or less in the past
+
+31:14.560 --> 31:17.040
+Do you hear this?
+
+31:19.120 --> 31:24.560
+Please tell me hear it because this is really happening right now. We just opened a treasure chest. It's crazy
+
+31:25.120 --> 31:31.600
+I'm going to move this g up. I think I pushed it down the other day because and then I relapsed and I took my words and
+
+31:32.080 --> 31:38.080
+Face was then recently. I've completed the uh, flccc recovery protocol
+
+31:39.040 --> 31:46.160
+That uh palmeric and pure cori have come up with and it's it's really helped me out. I'm not making any medical advice
+
+31:46.720 --> 31:54.080
+Um, but i'm not licensed in the state of california. I think so now he's saying that the flccc protocol also works
+
+31:54.560 --> 31:56.560
+So
+
+31:56.560 --> 31:58.560
+So this has to be 22
+
+32:00.000 --> 32:02.960
+Unless he was really talking in the past 10s a few minutes ago
+
+32:06.320 --> 32:13.200
+Again, this with this interview is the video is posted in may of 23, but that would be june july
+
+32:14.480 --> 32:16.480
+august
+
+32:17.360 --> 32:19.360
+It would be before my my
+
+32:20.640 --> 32:24.000
+My family went to the netherlands this summer. So I guess it's possible
+
+32:25.360 --> 32:27.760
+It's possible that it's from this year
+
+32:29.840 --> 32:32.240
+But then I really don't think he's telling the truth here
+
+32:32.240 --> 32:37.600
+He can't be telling the truth here if he's going to say that he took ivermecan within two days he could hike
+
+32:39.920 --> 32:43.200
+And that that was a wonder drug in that then also by the way
+
+32:43.840 --> 32:46.320
+I also completed the treatment
+
+32:46.960 --> 32:53.600
+Of the flccc protocol and that also works great, but i'm not giving medical advice. Wow. Did that sound slimy
+
+32:54.400 --> 32:56.400
+Oh, man
+
+32:56.400 --> 33:00.080
+That sounded so slimy. I think this is our fifth or sixth small farm
+
+33:00.480 --> 33:04.560
+And as as I think you said you were suffering first from long covid and then
+
+33:05.120 --> 33:07.120
+Vaccine injury. Yeah, the post vaccination syndrome
+
+33:07.600 --> 33:12.320
+And uh, so I started taking ivermectin and it stunned me. I out height
+
+33:12.960 --> 33:14.960
+our 20-something son
+
+33:14.960 --> 33:18.640
+Uh along big serve and I was like oh this stuff clearly works
+
+33:18.640 --> 33:20.640
+um
+
+33:21.680 --> 33:26.880
+And it was only like two days in right with the treatment. It was it was amazing the response that I had
+
+33:27.600 --> 33:33.360
+and then I relapsed and I took more and uh, then recently I've completed
+
+33:34.080 --> 33:36.800
+the uh flccc recovery protocol
+
+33:37.760 --> 33:40.480
+That uh palmeric and pyracori have come up with
+
+33:41.120 --> 33:44.880
+And it's it's really helped me out. I'm not giving you medical advice
+
+33:45.440 --> 33:48.800
+Um, but i'm not licensed in the state of california. Thank god
+
+33:49.360 --> 33:51.360
+um
+
+33:52.320 --> 33:56.000
+But um that's but so so we're we're hanging out
+
+33:56.960 --> 33:59.120
+um in this a little kind of
+
+34:00.720 --> 34:04.240
+Old, you know california has all these old motels
+
+34:05.200 --> 34:09.600
+So we're hanging out in this uh monoray bay hotel
+
+34:10.800 --> 34:12.400
+Motel
+
+34:12.480 --> 34:13.920
+And I get a phone call
+
+34:13.920 --> 34:16.000
+from this guy, jeff hansen
+
+34:16.160 --> 34:17.200
+Out of the blue
+
+34:17.200 --> 34:18.560
+And he says
+
+34:18.560 --> 34:21.920
+Robert, I really like what you're doing and I want to support you and i'm going to wire
+
+34:22.000 --> 34:24.000
+I'm not even going to say the size of the check
+
+34:24.560 --> 34:26.160
+Into your bank account
+
+34:26.160 --> 34:31.280
+And I was like at that point we were just you know scrapping to make ends meet
+
+34:31.360 --> 34:33.920
+We'd been doing everything based on our own cash flow
+
+34:34.640 --> 34:36.640
+Uh hadn't had any support or anything
+
+34:37.200 --> 34:41.520
+And suddenly out of the blue this guy calls up and says he wants to donate to us
+
+34:42.320 --> 34:47.600
+And that was key to basically me being able to continue to
+
+34:48.560 --> 34:55.280
+Be a free agent and just speak truth and travel. Yeah, yeah and in the travel and then then um
+
+34:55.840 --> 35:01.200
+There was a rally here in california and a bunch of mothers came together
+
+35:02.560 --> 35:05.200
+And who would that have been do you think that was curse
+
+35:07.120 --> 35:09.120
+Who gave him all that money?
+
+35:12.400 --> 35:14.400
+Hmm
+
+35:14.400 --> 35:16.400
+It's strange to me
+
+35:19.040 --> 35:22.880
+And he certainly didn't need the money. I mean he's pretending as though he doesn't have any money
+
+35:22.880 --> 35:26.160
+I'm not really sure that it can be true. It's possible. I guess but
+
+35:30.080 --> 35:34.160
+I don't know. There's something fishing here. We i'm sorry. Um, yeah, the mama mama bears
+
+35:34.160 --> 35:38.880
+I've been saying this all the way through mama bears are what's going to save america
+
+35:39.120 --> 35:40.640
+um
+
+35:40.640 --> 35:42.640
+and
+
+35:42.640 --> 35:48.560
+And that is what gave rise to the unity project was a a protest I think here in orange county
+
+35:49.200 --> 35:53.440
+Uh in which a lot of these mama bears came together and they said we're not going to stand for this
+
+35:54.240 --> 35:59.120
+And um, that's that's what gave rise to the unity project and it still continues
+
+35:59.120 --> 36:02.640
+I think the unity project right now is in the middle of a fundraise
+
+36:03.520 --> 36:06.080
+Trying to get enough to get a matching grant
+
+36:06.560 --> 36:09.120
+laura sextra who's the leader now
+
+36:09.680 --> 36:12.320
+Hasn't shared with me who's providing them
+
+36:12.880 --> 36:14.880
+matching funds or what the terms are but
+
+36:15.440 --> 36:18.480
+Um, that's that's I think why we're here
+
+36:19.200 --> 36:24.400
+And I I thank you very much for your being willing to support the unity project
+
+36:24.960 --> 36:28.080
+And its mission which has been very much about your children
+
+36:28.640 --> 36:30.640
+And and they've kind of morphed
+
+36:30.720 --> 36:37.280
+From the vaccines and the vans vaccine mandates to really, you know medical freedom and then that's just a subset
+
+36:37.280 --> 36:43.440
+It's really about freedom. Um, that's the truth of it and freedom and children and protecting children. Um, yeah
+
+36:43.600 --> 36:49.040
+Absolutely and protecting children and now we're seeing all of these additional threats that we never expected
+
+36:49.680 --> 36:55.120
+Um that are coming out of these various afeperts at social engineering through influencing our children
+
+36:55.360 --> 36:58.160
+Which you know when you when you talk about the um
+
+36:58.720 --> 37:04.320
+Peds transgender stuff. It's not just in america. It's you know, nick hudson our friend
+
+37:04.480 --> 37:06.080
+Who's a south african data?
+
+37:06.080 --> 37:08.080
+Now he said a panda
+
+37:08.160 --> 37:12.320
+Panda the same stuff is happening in south africa the same stuff is happening in europe
+
+37:12.400 --> 37:14.060
+This is a globalized
+
+37:14.060 --> 37:17.840
+Synchronized effort and it's really scary. I think that's one of the most important messages
+
+37:17.840 --> 37:22.720
+We can share with you is what last year we hit over 400 000 miles on commercial air
+
+37:23.200 --> 37:29.120
+Plus the privates. I'm traveling all over the world trying to help with the freedom movement and
+
+37:29.680 --> 37:33.120
+I'm bringing truth about the jabs and early treatment
+
+37:33.840 --> 37:37.760
+And one of the things that has been the most stunning I think to both of us
+
+37:38.480 --> 37:44.720
+Is that what we've experienced here in the states and you certainly have been at the tip of the spear in
+
+37:45.280 --> 37:48.000
+In california and experiencing these policies
+
+37:48.800 --> 37:51.600
+And I jill warned me not to trash california too much
+
+37:52.320 --> 37:57.680
+As as was said we're california natives. Okay. I was born in paul walto in the old stanford hospital. She was born in
+
+37:58.080 --> 38:03.040
+Uh van eyes in the old ucla hospital. Um, we grew up in galita
+
+38:03.600 --> 38:09.760
+Uh, we're high school sweethearts from dos pueblos went to uc san diego and uc davis
+
+38:10.000 --> 38:16.720
+Yeah, so so that's our we're we're deeply rooted in california and we're now california expats living in virginia
+
+38:17.200 --> 38:20.880
+And and we'll just leave it at that. I don't have any problems with water
+
+38:22.000 --> 38:23.680
+And I like to say
+
+38:23.680 --> 38:26.080
+Um, if I don't mow it a tree grows
+
+38:27.120 --> 38:30.400
+Um, so that's that's a little different from around here
+
+38:30.400 --> 38:34.320
+But but the truth is that california is you all know has an uphill battle
+
+38:34.640 --> 38:36.160
+You know, it's not about california
+
+38:36.160 --> 38:41.920
+It's about california and politicians and and what's happened to the state. Yeah, and in the point
+
+38:42.000 --> 38:44.000
+I was trying to get towards is
+
+38:44.800 --> 38:50.720
+What was stunning for us is these policies that were deployed in the united states were deployed globally
+
+38:51.360 --> 38:56.320
+In a harmonized synchronized way. I've never seen any i'm a veteran of multiple outbreaks
+
+38:56.400 --> 38:58.000
+This is kind of my business
+
+38:58.000 --> 39:01.600
+People there's a cadre small cadre of people that are kind of outbreak junkies
+
+39:02.160 --> 39:07.280
+And they get the calls early on like I did on january 4th of 2020 saying okay
+
+39:07.280 --> 39:09.840
+We got another problem. We got to get going on this blah blah blah
+
+39:10.240 --> 39:12.240
+And you know, now we know the whole military
+
+39:13.440 --> 39:18.160
+Biodefense complex behind that and there's a dark side to all of that. I didn't really know about
+
+39:18.720 --> 39:23.680
+But I have never experienced anything like this with a censorship propaganda
+
+39:24.320 --> 39:31.600
+Um, the control of information and really the fifth generation warfare or what matt tabie called today hybrid warfare
+
+39:32.160 --> 39:35.200
+In a fascinating essay from was it rebel news?
+
+39:36.240 --> 39:39.520
+No, it was not it was racket racket racket news
+
+39:40.320 --> 39:43.920
+So that's on sub stack. I really recommend that and we did
+
+39:44.800 --> 39:51.120
+We post it through our own sub stack. So if any of you are subscribers to ours, you know, and by the way
+
+39:51.120 --> 39:54.800
+You could be it's it's free. You don't have to pay. This is not drifting
+
+39:55.840 --> 40:01.760
+Um, but uh, they put out a fantastic article with an intro from matt tabie
+
+40:02.320 --> 40:05.040
+that of of the twitter files fame
+
+40:05.520 --> 40:11.200
+Um that lays out all of these organizations that have been set up that form this new
+
+40:11.760 --> 40:15.120
+Uh censorship industrial complex that people have been talking about
+
+40:15.600 --> 40:18.160
+So that is absolutely something for you guys to check out
+
+40:18.160 --> 40:22.480
+But the the stunning thing is like you remember all of the artists
+
+40:23.120 --> 40:26.960
+All the comedians that were all basically paid
+
+40:27.440 --> 40:32.880
+Um to put out the propaganda of the pro vaccine, you know, we've got vaccine all that
+
+40:33.200 --> 40:38.400
+Oh, by the way, micky wilson's next, uh video is going to be coming out in just a couple weeks check that out
+
+40:39.040 --> 40:40.000
+um
+
+40:40.000 --> 40:44.720
+Uh, which includes a lot of russians getting those, you know film clips from a lot of that
+
+40:44.800 --> 40:46.800
+Do you hear what he's doing right here?
+
+40:48.240 --> 40:50.240
+Boy, it was really painful
+
+40:51.440 --> 40:57.600
+He's trying to tell these people that do you remember the people on social media and all the all the hollywood stars saying hey
+
+40:57.600 --> 40:59.520
+We got vaccine or
+
+40:59.520 --> 41:01.520
+Hey, get the vaccine
+
+41:01.760 --> 41:03.760
+And we do remember that we do
+
+41:05.360 --> 41:06.400
+But
+
+41:06.400 --> 41:10.640
+Leading people by the nose to that part of the of the narrative
+
+41:11.600 --> 41:14.960
+Doesn't lead them back far enough to see that there were the same people
+
+41:16.400 --> 41:18.400
+And more
+
+41:19.120 --> 41:23.760
+Seating the narrative about the novel virus and the fact that it could be a worst case scenario
+
+41:24.320 --> 41:26.400
+And what that worst case scenario might be
+
+41:28.080 --> 41:30.800
+And that the seating of that narrative allowed
+
+41:32.480 --> 41:38.720
+There to be a rollout of the vaccine that needed hollywood stars and people on tv and
+
+41:39.280 --> 41:42.240
+And late night talk show host to dance about the vaccine
+
+41:44.000 --> 41:46.960
+And that wouldn't have happened had there not been a year earlier
+
+41:48.000 --> 41:49.040
+a
+
+41:49.040 --> 41:51.200
+covert and overt campaign
+
+41:51.840 --> 41:57.120
+To make people believe that there was a novel virus spreading around the world that either came from a bat cave
+
+41:57.760 --> 42:01.120
+Or came from a bat cave and then into a laboratory and then out
+
+42:02.080 --> 42:04.080
+That
+
+42:04.080 --> 42:06.560
+That's spectacular because he's not going there
+
+42:07.760 --> 42:11.920
+He's not going to tell you that they hyped it up from the very beginning and that they used
+
+42:12.640 --> 42:16.320
+Things like remdesivir to make it seem like the virus was really deadly
+
+42:18.800 --> 42:22.720
+Because naive young doctors applying the protocol that they were told
+
+42:25.440 --> 42:27.440
+Was the protocol that they had to follow
+
+42:32.320 --> 42:33.840
+That
+
+42:33.840 --> 42:36.160
+That person has covid and kidney failure
+
+42:37.520 --> 42:39.520
+They don't think about what they've been giving them
+
+42:41.520 --> 42:47.680
+Ladies and gentlemen, this is the magic spell right here. This is the enchantment in spades
+
+42:49.120 --> 42:52.400
+And I really think it's from may 2023. It's from this year
+
+42:53.680 --> 42:55.680
+This is how they've done it
+
+42:56.560 --> 43:01.280
+Again, the car is speeding so fast that you can't see all the details
+
+43:02.960 --> 43:07.920
+Especially because it's such a nice car and your seat is such luxurious love of leather
+
+43:10.880 --> 43:13.680
+And the smell of the driver's cigar is just right
+
+43:15.200 --> 43:17.200
+Or the driver's pipe as I would prefer
+
+43:18.720 --> 43:22.160
+I mean ladies and gentlemen listen to these masterfuls
+
+43:23.120 --> 43:29.840
+Masterful storytellers knowing exactly what the faith is and how to proselytize it
+
+43:32.160 --> 43:34.720
+That happened across the world in a heart
+
+43:34.720 --> 43:37.840
+And so pointing at propaganda that's not propaganda
+
+43:38.080 --> 43:42.640
+Pointing at propaganda that is propaganda rather but not the propaganda that got you there
+
+43:43.360 --> 43:45.360
+Is asking the wrong question
+
+43:46.880 --> 43:48.880
+Who hyped up the vaccine?
+
+43:48.880 --> 43:50.880
+Who's responsible for this vaccine?
+
+43:51.040 --> 43:53.040
+Who did the vaccine?
+
+43:54.240 --> 44:00.480
+Completely ignores a whole year where people said that who you could have asked who said this was a novel virus
+
+44:00.720 --> 44:02.720
+Who said this virus was deadly?
+
+44:02.880 --> 44:04.880
+Who said that remdesivir would work?
+
+44:05.040 --> 44:07.040
+Who said that ventilators was necessary?
+
+44:07.760 --> 44:09.760
+Who said that we needed more ventilators?
+
+44:10.400 --> 44:12.400
+Who said we needed that damn ship?
+
+44:14.320 --> 44:17.120
+Who said we needed mandazalam given to people in
+
+44:17.840 --> 44:19.840
+in care homes
+
+44:19.840 --> 44:23.680
+Who said we should give all the old people the vaccine first?
+
+44:23.680 --> 44:27.120
+Who said we should treat all the most vulnerable with the vaccine first?
+
+44:32.880 --> 44:36.800
+Who are responsible for the first year and a half of this pandemic?
+
+44:36.800 --> 44:39.760
+Not who's responsible for the year and a half after that
+
+44:40.720 --> 44:41.760
+First things first
+
+44:44.720 --> 44:46.400
+Harmonize simultaneous fashion
+
+44:47.280 --> 44:49.520
+All of that so for instance we were traveling
+
+44:50.480 --> 44:55.360
+in vienna one of the capitals of the arts and particularly music in europe
+
+44:56.080 --> 44:57.120
+and
+
+44:57.120 --> 45:02.480
+We were brought there by people that were really part of the resistance within vienna
+
+45:03.280 --> 45:06.160
+So they had an underground resistance because they were all locked down
+
+45:06.400 --> 45:12.400
+They couldn't they were not allowed to congregate they couldn't there's no way they would have been arrested if they had a meaning like this
+
+45:13.040 --> 45:17.760
+Okay, and what what had happened was that one of the kind of bohemian
+
+45:18.560 --> 45:21.200
+Hangouts for artists, etc
+
+45:21.920 --> 45:23.920
+in downtown
+
+45:23.920 --> 45:26.480
+paper over all its windows with craft paper
+
+45:27.440 --> 45:28.560
+and
+
+45:28.560 --> 45:30.560
+started holding
+
+45:30.560 --> 45:32.560
+surreptitious evening meetings
+
+45:33.040 --> 45:35.920
+And and just get together say we're just meetings they were you know
+
+45:35.920 --> 45:42.320
+They continued on with with their business surreptitiously, which was highly illegal to just have people come and hang
+
+45:43.360 --> 45:47.600
+So we connected with these people when we went there to speak for a couple of events
+
+45:48.160 --> 45:55.600
+And what we learned was that at the same time that all the artists and comedians here in the United States had been purchased basically
+
+45:56.320 --> 45:58.320
+To put out the propaganda
+
+45:58.320 --> 46:00.880
+The same had happened throughout austria
+
+46:01.840 --> 46:05.920
+It throughout vienna basically all the artists and musicians
+
+46:06.720 --> 46:11.200
+Were all paid right off the bat to promote the jab
+
+46:12.160 --> 46:16.400
+I mean, I've never seen anything like this in my life and it still boggles my mind
+
+46:16.960 --> 46:20.560
+Who you know this this the big question is who's the puppet master right?
+
+46:21.120 --> 46:28.880
+What what is the organization that has that much capital and that much organizational capability to deploy what we have been subjected to
+
+46:29.360 --> 46:32.080
+For the last three years and I don't know the answer
+
+46:32.640 --> 46:35.600
+Oh my gosh, what talk about it what?
+
+46:36.240 --> 46:37.360
+but
+
+46:37.360 --> 46:38.400
+that
+
+46:38.400 --> 46:42.080
+Complex I want you to think about that. He says I don't know the answer
+
+46:42.080 --> 46:47.360
+Let's listen that one more time and I'm going to explain to you why that is ridiculous and it's going to be very easy
+
+46:47.360 --> 46:50.720
+It's going to take me like two sentences before you're going to be like oh wait
+
+46:51.360 --> 46:54.400
+Yeah, he does that to promote the jab
+
+46:55.360 --> 46:59.600
+I mean, I've never seen anything like this in my life and it still boggles my mind
+
+47:00.160 --> 47:03.760
+Who you know this this the big question is who's the puppet master right?
+
+47:04.400 --> 47:12.160
+What what is the organization that has that much capital and that much organizational capability to deploy what we have been subjected to
+
+47:12.640 --> 47:14.800
+for the last three years
+
+47:14.800 --> 47:16.800
+And I don't know the answer
+
+47:18.240 --> 47:20.240
+And I don't know the answer he says
+
+47:26.720 --> 47:28.720
+What if I were to say Robert Malone
+
+47:29.680 --> 47:36.640
+If anovial would have been chosen as the primary vaccine candidate or one of the primary vaccine candidates
+
+47:37.280 --> 47:41.680
+Who would have chosen anovial and how would it have been brought to market?
+
+47:42.480 --> 47:44.480
+Who would have brought it to market?
+
+47:44.880 --> 47:49.520
+Do you think he could have answered that question? Do you think Jill Malone could have answered that question?
+
+47:50.640 --> 47:53.600
+Because I think the answer to that question is the same answer
+
+47:54.800 --> 47:56.800
+as who did this
+
+47:57.760 --> 47:59.760
+And he pretends like I don't know
+
+48:01.120 --> 48:05.440
+They did call me and tell me you know to spin up my team and so I went
+
+48:06.160 --> 48:07.680
+and drove my
+
+48:07.680 --> 48:09.680
+Honda Civic with
+
+48:09.680 --> 48:12.640
+Four non-matching wheels and one missing corner panel
+
+48:13.360 --> 48:18.240
+To ditra headquarters and spun my team up who were all volunteer guys
+
+48:18.880 --> 48:20.880
+We lived on submarine sandwiches
+
+48:21.520 --> 48:23.520
+And stale soda
+
+48:23.920 --> 48:25.840
+While I was creating a you know
+
+48:26.960 --> 48:30.080
+Nothing big. I mean like an x-ray crystallography model of the
+
+48:30.960 --> 48:36.160
+3acl protease, but you know, it's no big deal and then we were running it past, you know
+
+48:37.680 --> 48:39.680
+All the known drugs
+
+48:39.680 --> 48:46.080
+The FDA approved drugs. What's that Robert Malone? What did you say? Uh, we were running it past all the drugs in the world
+
+48:46.960 --> 48:48.080
+What?
+
+48:48.080 --> 48:51.040
+We were running it past all the drugs in the world
+
+48:51.680 --> 48:54.720
+Like all the FDA approved drugs and pharmaceuticals
+
+48:55.920 --> 48:57.920
+What were you running past that?
+
+48:57.920 --> 49:01.600
+My model of we were matching using i.i. You know
+
+49:02.560 --> 49:06.480
+a computer generated model of x-ray crystallography of the
+
+49:07.600 --> 49:09.600
+3acl protease
+
+49:10.000 --> 49:12.000
+And then we were matching
+
+49:13.040 --> 49:18.640
+Computer generated models of all the substances the FDA had approved
+
+49:19.520 --> 49:22.800
+That's a pretty big database, isn't it? Robert Malone
+
+49:24.000 --> 49:26.000
+How many substances is that?
+
+49:26.000 --> 49:31.200
+How long did it take you to do that to make a model of the of the novel virus
+
+49:31.840 --> 49:33.120
+and its
+
+49:33.120 --> 49:35.120
+special protease
+
+49:35.120 --> 49:36.000
+um
+
+49:36.000 --> 49:40.880
+How long did it take you to make that x-ray crystallography model and then make out a
+
+49:41.520 --> 49:44.640
+a suitable interface for this database of
+
+49:45.360 --> 49:47.360
+of substances
+
+49:47.760 --> 49:50.560
+Um about three weeks about three weeks you're on it
+
+49:55.520 --> 49:58.000
+I have hypotheses if we talk about it in the book
+
+49:58.800 --> 49:59.920
+but
+
+49:59.920 --> 50:00.960
+That
+
+50:00.960 --> 50:02.160
+Complex
+
+50:02.160 --> 50:06.880
+Whatever that is whatever those those puppet masters are whatever they're doing
+
+50:07.440 --> 50:12.080
+They're still out there and they're still doing it and that we can the good news is that we can now see it
+
+50:13.040 --> 50:15.920
+The good news is that I mean always looking for silver lightings
+
+50:15.920 --> 50:17.600
+I hate doing these
+
+50:17.600 --> 50:24.640
+Meetings and talks and stuff and it's just down down down. Oh this horrible thing. Look what they've done too. Nice. Lisa doing just now
+
+50:25.120 --> 50:27.120
+It's just so is that Simon says
+
+50:28.000 --> 50:32.320
+But just to say it, you know, we all know it goes beyond covid. Lisa Simon says
+
+50:33.520 --> 50:40.560
+The origins of covid whether it's you know, um anything that you want to say against the Ukrainian war
+
+50:41.200 --> 50:46.480
+You know, um the slightest criticism nor stream nor stream. It's it's all getting censored now
+
+50:46.880 --> 50:48.880
+You know and propaganda
+
+50:48.880 --> 50:53.680
+Everything everything in is you know here in california. It's all being done algorithmically
+
+50:54.080 --> 50:56.080
+They want to do it now with ai
+
+50:56.240 --> 51:02.560
+We're we're in an information battlescape. This is what it is. I talk about fifth generation warfare. It'll be lecturing
+
+51:03.840 --> 51:06.400
+Um as I say matt how you be calls it hybrid warfare
+
+51:07.360 --> 51:12.000
+I call it fifth generation governance because it's not warfare. It's just governance
+
+51:13.920 --> 51:17.760
+And the trick is is that he's telling you you'll never figure out who it is
+
+51:22.000 --> 51:27.920
+And i've been told by the way by the anti-defamation league i've been called a anti-government conspiracy theorist
+
+51:28.480 --> 51:31.520
+Because I talk about fifth generation warfare
+
+51:32.080 --> 51:34.720
+Uh the administrative state and what's my third sin?
+
+51:35.440 --> 51:37.440
+Um
+
+51:37.840 --> 51:43.200
+It's administrative state fifth generation were fair and I forget what my third crime is
+
+51:43.760 --> 51:49.440
+My third thought crime, but but basically this is established technology. It's been in the literature for years
+
+51:49.520 --> 51:51.520
+It's taught within dod
+
+51:51.680 --> 51:57.440
+There was a dod operations army our operations manual that was put out in the 90s about deploying this
+
+51:58.080 --> 51:59.600
+And we've had
+
+51:59.600 --> 52:01.760
+folks within syops units that were
+
+52:02.320 --> 52:08.080
+um retired come up to us in these rallies and say yes, what you're saying is absolutely true
+
+52:08.080 --> 52:15.040
+This is absolutely what's going on and i'm mad as hell about it because basically we built this suite of technologies
+
+52:15.520 --> 52:19.040
+During the cold war to counter what was truly the most
+
+52:19.680 --> 52:25.040
+incredible syops capability in history a man which was deployed by the soviet union
+
+52:25.840 --> 52:28.160
+And we had to have something to counteract that
+
+52:29.040 --> 52:34.880
+And then instead of having as bobby kennedy said the other day in boston instead of having a
+
+52:35.920 --> 52:40.240
+A dividend from the end of the cold war. We pivoted to the middle east
+
+52:40.880 --> 52:42.880
+And we started foreign adventures there, right?
+
+52:43.520 --> 52:44.320
+um
+
+52:44.320 --> 52:47.920
+And what one of the things we did is we deployed these syops units
+
+52:48.960 --> 52:54.400
+In the uk deployed the 77th brigade and there's syops units in canada in mousieland, australia
+
+52:54.960 --> 52:58.080
+We deployed them against our foreign adversaries in the middle east
+
+52:59.200 --> 53:06.960
+And every day this these capabilities get stronger and stronger more and more personnel more and more government contractors
+
+53:07.200 --> 53:10.480
+Because that's the nature of the beast. That's the way things work in dc
+
+53:10.960 --> 53:16.560
+Okay, is you can never kill a program. It just they get they have it like this organic thing
+
+53:16.560 --> 53:22.800
+They just grow and grow and grow and um get more and more funding and more and more lobbyists
+
+53:23.520 --> 53:29.520
+And so then we had the failures in syria iraq, afghanistan
+
+53:30.400 --> 53:36.320
+I mean, I argue that we have never won a fifth generation warfare fourth generation. Yeah, um
+
+53:37.040 --> 53:39.040
+Going back to the vehicle
+
+53:39.040 --> 53:40.000
+Okay
+
+53:40.000 --> 53:42.240
+And we lost those battles functionally
+
+53:43.280 --> 53:49.520
+And covid came along and they deployed those capabilities as part of the whole of military response
+
+53:50.400 --> 53:54.480
+And i'm sorry to say it for those that are america maga folks
+
+53:55.200 --> 53:59.200
+But it was mr. Trump that declared the whole of military response
+
+53:59.920 --> 54:06.560
+And that included deploying those syops units against the civilians which really started though. It started in
+
+54:07.360 --> 54:15.600
+2016 when um obama softened the anti-propagation propaganda act which said that they could not deploy propaganda on the american people and
+
+54:15.760 --> 54:21.520
+Congress passed a law that um very much softened that act that was passed in 1948
+
+54:22.000 --> 54:27.600
+And that was what really opened the door to syops on the american people and and the logic is you've heard it
+
+54:27.600 --> 54:31.680
+You've heard mr. obama speaking about this again and again. I'm not coming here to trash the man
+
+54:32.240 --> 54:36.400
+But you heard it at stanford at the hoover institute when he gave his lecture
+
+54:37.200 --> 54:43.760
+In order to preserve democracy quote unquote right we and those of you that are constitutionalists will all point out
+
+54:43.840 --> 54:48.640
+We don't actually have a democracy right so i don't want to i'm sorry. Did he just say trumped in it?
+
+54:49.600 --> 54:52.960
+I think he says trump did it with that argument. We have a republic
+
+54:53.680 --> 54:54.720
+Okay
+
+54:54.720 --> 54:55.920
+But
+
+54:55.920 --> 54:59.920
+The logic that's been promoted is in order to preserve democracy
+
+55:00.560 --> 55:04.240
+We have to have censorship we have to control information
+
+55:04.800 --> 55:11.600
+And and basically it is it is a total upside down, you know, we're all living in upside down in clung world anyhow
+
+55:12.000 --> 55:18.400
+Um, it's an upside down argument that the first amendment has got to be jennisoned in order to preserve democracy
+
+55:18.480 --> 55:20.480
+That's where we live right now
+
+55:20.640 --> 55:28.800
+And they absolutely want to continue to reinforce this and is this article that just came out documents. We have was it 10 50?
+
+55:29.040 --> 55:31.040
+he lives he listed 50
+
+55:31.680 --> 55:32.800
+NGOs
+
+55:32.800 --> 55:39.040
+government organizations that are actively pursuing censorship and propaganda and he goes through with
+
+55:39.760 --> 55:42.640
+Details on who's funding them what they've done
+
+55:43.120 --> 55:50.720
+Um where they operate it's it's quite an amazing piece in the racket. It's very long. It's almost book length
+
+55:51.120 --> 55:57.200
+So that's that's you know, I've come to the point and I think we've come to the point. Yes medical freedom is important
+
+55:58.320 --> 55:59.840
+and um
+
+55:59.840 --> 56:04.320
+The the rights of parents to educate their own children are important
+
+56:05.280 --> 56:10.640
+Um matias desma just put out a great article about the efforts in the netherlands
+
+56:11.040 --> 56:16.960
+Uh, the state is advocating that they should take over child re mandatory schooling starting at four years old
+
+56:17.280 --> 56:24.400
+So children have to go to mandatory preschool and kindergarten because parents are not adequately trained to raise children
+
+56:25.120 --> 56:31.840
+Okay, and I guarantee this stuff that's going down there in europe is going to be coming on shore here on the side of the Atlantic
+
+56:32.160 --> 56:39.600
+Very cuz it's all driven it literally. This is not a conspiracy theory. It is absolutely all driven by the world economic forum
+
+56:40.400 --> 56:41.680
+Okay
+
+56:41.680 --> 56:49.440
+And and the world economic forum and everyone says oh look at dalos look at the wealthy and supposedly he never heard of that before
+
+56:50.320 --> 56:52.320
+before merrill and
+
+56:52.880 --> 56:56.160
+And mary holland and other people explained it to him
+
+56:57.360 --> 56:59.360
+That's the story that I heard
+
+56:59.520 --> 57:02.560
+I mean before this all started he had no idea
+
+57:03.280 --> 57:08.240
+Who the wef was or that there was some global governments or where you know, whatever
+
+57:09.520 --> 57:12.880
+Apparently he'd never heard a seppie or anything right. I mean, how could he
+
+57:13.840 --> 57:16.480
+Obviously heard of those those organizations
+
+57:17.360 --> 57:19.360
+He's given a talk at the who
+
+57:21.200 --> 57:27.200
+But i've been told by multiple people that the story goes that the horse farmer robert malone
+
+57:28.160 --> 57:30.160
+part-time contractor
+
+57:32.480 --> 57:34.480
+Study section leader
+
+57:35.360 --> 57:38.880
+Curator of billions of dollars in nih grant money
+
+57:40.320 --> 57:46.160
+And broker of vaccine technologies between countries had no idea what the wf was
+
+57:47.120 --> 57:53.280
+Until a few people told him at when when he got started in this all speaking out
+
+57:54.240 --> 57:57.840
+That's how naive he was that's what we're supposed to believe
+
+57:59.440 --> 58:04.640
+The people partying it's not about that. Okay, this is this is the puppet over here
+
+58:05.120 --> 58:12.000
+The world economic forum is the largest it's a trade union of the largest transnational corporations in the world
+
+58:12.400 --> 58:20.960
+And in 2019 they signed a extensive strategic agreement with the united nations where they're now helping to fund the united nations which
+
+58:21.440 --> 58:22.720
+you know
+
+58:22.800 --> 58:27.680
+That makes them kind of a partner when you give somebody money then you can take away money
+
+58:27.920 --> 58:33.200
+They absolutely seek to become the world government and that this is you know, we have an experiment that's happening
+
+58:33.920 --> 58:39.760
+You know right before our eyes in world governance. That's never happened before where we've had corporations
+
+58:40.320 --> 58:47.040
+You know, which is basically fascism. It's corporatism taking over the world governance. It's just scary scary thing
+
+58:47.120 --> 58:49.120
+Yeah, so let's talk about that just for a minute
+
+58:49.120 --> 58:53.920
+And so if this is going to happen realize people that somebody's got to break it to them
+
+58:55.280 --> 58:58.640
+Somebody's got to break it to everybody on earth that this is happening
+
+58:59.760 --> 59:03.760
+And break it to them in such a way so that they react but they don't react
+
+59:04.480 --> 59:07.040
+They get upset, but they don't really do anything about it
+
+59:08.320 --> 59:11.680
+So that they react by asking the wrong questions
+
+59:12.400 --> 59:13.920
+And
+
+59:13.920 --> 59:18.160
+So you're going to find more and more and more voices on the internet
+
+59:18.160 --> 59:22.160
+They're going to start to tell you that it's really happening. They're really doing this
+
+59:23.920 --> 59:26.080
+But they're not going to tell you how to get out
+
+59:27.200 --> 59:33.680
+Because they're not going to show you the door over there, which is that well, you know have this whole public health thing is a is a hoax
+
+59:34.960 --> 59:40.240
+And if this climate change thing is happening, it's happening because of variables far beyond
+
+59:41.200 --> 59:46.480
+our contribution to the co2 continent our content of the atmosphere
+
+59:48.480 --> 59:55.520
+And that extraordinary realization that you are being governed by mythology is what makes the whole spell go poof
+
+59:57.600 --> 01:00:00.640
+But now the spell is never going to go poof if you tell people that
+
+01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:05.280
+That the fascism fascists are trying to replace fascism
+
+01:00:06.240 --> 01:00:12.560
+Or replace democracy with fascism. They're never that's not going to break the spell. That's the plan
+
+01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.520
+That's like going to a woman and saying, you know, I think you're
+
+01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:20.800
+Your husband's cheating on you, but I don't know
+
+01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:25.760
+You're never going to really be able to do anything about it because we're never going to catch him and he's a really good liar
+
+01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:30.320
+And you know, it might not be his fault. It might be the lady's fault
+
+01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:33.520
+Maybe she'll go away, but we're never going to be able to catch him and
+
+01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:36.320
+You know
+
+01:00:36.640 --> 01:00:42.080
+I mean, it's like saying there's a problem, but there's nothing you can do about it is the perfect kind of
+
+01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:51.520
+It's the perfect kind of message because it kind of brain washes you into into keeping sat in your chair and go, yeah
+
+01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:54.400
+Get him, robert
+
+01:00:57.120 --> 01:00:59.760
+Man, i'm glad robert melon speaking up for us
+
+01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:05.360
+And if they've got it under control, what do I need to do?
+
+01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:09.360
+I'm just happy that dappy to know that those people are out there boy. That's great
+
+01:01:10.080 --> 01:01:13.040
+I could never do as much as Jill and robert melon are doing
+
+01:01:14.080 --> 01:01:20.640
+I mean, I can only keep a horse farm. I can't also tour around the world first-class airplane flights
+
+01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:22.160
+uh
+
+01:01:22.160 --> 01:01:25.360
+week-long cruises off the coast of turkey and not tubbing in
+
+01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:32.320
+Scandinavian countries with my fellow dissidents speaking in the european parliament every year for three years running
+
+01:01:34.160 --> 01:01:36.160
+I mean, I gotta take care of horses
+
+01:01:37.280 --> 01:01:42.960
+But i'm sure glad that this guy can do it these guys are all you know, they all the people in the audience here they got vineyards to run
+
+01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:44.960
+But these guys, you know
+
+01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:50.080
+Nine foals this year. That's a pretty modest horse farm
+
+01:01:51.040 --> 01:01:58.000
+Um, I talk about this in many of our writings in the book. Um, we lay out the logic
+
+01:01:59.680 --> 01:02:04.160
+With detail and citations to establish political science work
+
+01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:10.640
+There's been a lot of of pollution and obfuscation around this word fascism
+
+01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:17.920
+Fascism has been weaponized in so many ways that it's difficult now to know what that word actually means
+
+01:02:18.480 --> 01:02:24.320
+The word weaponized words at words being weaponized has been used so often
+
+01:02:25.360 --> 01:02:27.360
+It's hard to know what it means
+
+01:02:28.560 --> 01:02:31.040
+It's all this neuro linguistic programming crap
+
+01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:37.280
+all this renaming of of an age old mastery of the language of
+
+01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:41.200
+of the use of language to convince people of things
+
+01:02:41.200 --> 01:02:42.720
+I
+
+01:02:42.720 --> 01:02:49.840
+Don't think there's probably more than seven or eight basic methods of how it's done, but most of them revolve around storytelling
+
+01:02:51.040 --> 01:02:53.440
+Someone just told me a story today. I have a u-turn
+
+01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:57.200
+in terms of getting somebody to to think about
+
+01:02:57.920 --> 01:02:59.920
+an alternative
+
+01:02:59.920 --> 01:03:03.520
+Explanation or an alternative interpretation of reality first
+
+01:03:04.080 --> 01:03:10.000
+Acknowledging what they say and then offering an alternative and then asking questions to get them there
+
+01:03:10.720 --> 01:03:12.640
+Something like that
+
+01:03:12.640 --> 01:03:14.640
+And I have no doubt
+
+01:03:14.640 --> 01:03:15.920
+that there are
+
+01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:18.880
+Ways in which we can we can convince one another
+
+01:03:19.600 --> 01:03:22.800
+And there are people who are just really good at it for intuitive reasons
+
+01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:26.880
+And that mastery has gone back
+
+01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:29.440
+Generations, this is not a new trick
+
+01:03:30.080 --> 01:03:32.320
+the chat gtp finally figured out
+
+01:03:33.520 --> 01:03:38.880
+And that is again one of these things where when people drop these hints about who they're weaponizing AI
+
+01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:41.440
+who their weaponizing language who they're weaponizing
+
+01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:44.880
+social media who weaponized weaponized weaponized
+
+01:03:46.080 --> 01:03:48.080
+as if it's getting any
+
+01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:52.960
+Any more special except for the fact that we have completely and totally said
+
+01:03:53.520 --> 01:03:54.960
+Yeah, sure
+
+01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:56.960
+I'll read whatever you put on here
+
+01:04:00.080 --> 01:04:04.480
+As if that's not the biggest dumb choice that we make every day
+
+01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:07.600
+rather than
+
+01:04:07.600 --> 01:04:10.400
+What they do with our attention
+
+01:04:12.240 --> 01:04:17.120
+We say that oh, yeah, it's them it's their fault. You know, I'm supposed to be it's just supposed to be safe
+
+01:04:17.120 --> 01:04:21.440
+I'm supposed to be for me. You know, it's just for me to communicate my friend's stuff
+
+01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:30.720
+And in reality you are giving them your full attention and then thinking that they're going to do something ethical with it
+
+01:04:32.080 --> 01:04:34.080
+with no regulation
+
+01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:37.440
+Think about how dumb that is how dumb we are
+
+01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:42.320
+How dumb am I that I've given my kid a set of kids a cell phone
+
+01:04:44.720 --> 01:04:50.240
+When their attention can be hijacked by social media companies in a heartbeat with one tap
+
+01:04:52.560 --> 01:04:54.560
+Is it their fault?
+
+01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:58.240
+Is it the social media companies fault
+
+01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:03.760
+If you were given the attention of literally millions of humans, what would you do with it?
+
+01:05:04.640 --> 01:05:08.320
+Find a way to monetize it or use it to make it a better world
+
+01:05:13.120 --> 01:05:18.480
+There is a group of controllers ladies and gentlemen that has a plan of inverting national sovereignty
+
+01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:22.000
+into a global system of governance. It's based on
+
+01:05:22.720 --> 01:05:24.480
+climate change
+
+01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:27.040
+based on vaccination and public health
+
+01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:30.000
+and based on the mythology
+
+01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:32.480
+of this ever
+
+01:05:32.640 --> 01:05:34.400
+increasing
+
+01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:36.480
+biotechnology space
+
+01:05:37.760 --> 01:05:42.560
+That Robert Malone and his wife would like to be the disambiguation wizard in which of
+
+01:05:43.120 --> 01:05:44.960
+for all eternity
+
+01:05:44.960 --> 01:05:47.600
+Or at least in the foreseeable future
+
+01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:55.520
+And I believe that they're taking that role very disingenuously very disingenuously
+
+01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:58.800
+They're not just humble horse farmers
+
+01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:02.720
+Like putting on funny uniforms and galloping around
+
+01:06:05.360 --> 01:06:08.640
+There's something else going on here, and I don't know what it is
+
+01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:11.920
+But I think we are would be very very wise
+
+01:06:12.720 --> 01:06:18.480
+Not to trust this man and rude to realize that he is part of a network of people
+
+01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:22.880
+who has been reassuring and and
+
+01:06:23.680 --> 01:06:25.440
+assuring
+
+01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:31.440
+That this narrative of a novel virus that we had to do something that the mRNA saved a lot of people for
+
+01:06:32.240 --> 01:06:37.680
+And that the virus could come again because this might again been gain a function this whole narrative
+
+01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:43.600
+Has been succinctly carefully constructed from the very beginning
+
+01:06:45.520 --> 01:06:50.880
+And the already pre divided pre fractionated United States
+
+01:06:51.600 --> 01:06:54.640
+and UK whole western society
+
+01:06:55.680 --> 01:06:57.440
+was used
+
+01:06:57.440 --> 01:06:59.280
+very cleverly
+
+01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:03.600
+And the people on the left all around on all throughout the west
+
+01:07:04.720 --> 01:07:08.160
+We're also on the side of lab leak or natural virus
+
+01:07:09.040 --> 01:07:11.440
+and all the people in the conservative wings
+
+01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:13.520
+of both
+
+01:07:13.520 --> 01:07:16.800
+Europe and the united states and in japan
+
+01:07:18.160 --> 01:07:20.160
+We're all on the lab leak side
+
+01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:23.280
+as if that even made any sense
+
+01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.920
+As if your stance on abortion or gay marriage would have any
+
+01:07:28.480 --> 01:07:31.840
+Bearing on whether you thought this could be a natural virus or a lab leak
+
+01:07:32.640 --> 01:07:34.640
+It should have had much more to do whether you saw
+
+01:07:35.440 --> 01:07:37.600
+the peter day sack 60 minutes
+
+01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:40.320
+When it came out or not
+
+01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:46.960
+It should have had a lot more to do is whether you read nathan wolf's book or saw his ted talk or not
+
+01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:52.400
+It shouldn't have been whether or not you like trump. It shouldn't have been whether you're a whole
+
+01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:55.440
+and
+
+01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:57.440
+Now you see how they did it
+
+01:07:58.160 --> 01:08:01.120
+And what robert melon is is slapping them with again
+
+01:08:02.240 --> 01:08:06.880
+Making sure that that firm divide that everybody's got in their gut
+
+01:08:08.400 --> 01:08:10.080
+Never heals
+
+01:08:10.080 --> 01:08:11.760
+Don't let that close up
+
+01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:17.200
+Make sure that that's contiguous with the rest of this narrative that twist in your gut that rip
+
+01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:22.480
+Where you either believe that trump's a good guy and got the short end of the stick
+
+01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:29.600
+Or you think he's the worst example of an american and you have no idea how he cheated his way in but it must have been the russians
+
+01:08:31.200 --> 01:08:33.600
+That divide in america was so
+
+01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:36.880
+so beautifully used
+
+01:08:38.400 --> 01:08:39.920
+And seated
+
+01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:46.960
+So that everybody on one side of that divide thought natural virus and one side of that divide thought lab leak one side of that virus
+
+01:08:47.120 --> 01:08:51.440
+Take the shots and give me more. I don't care if it's hot dog juice
+
+01:08:53.120 --> 01:09:00.480
+And then this side said oh, I don't know. I mean, I'm gonna wait for a second. I mean come on. It's you know, they haven't tested it
+
+01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:08.000
+We've got to see this for what it is now ladies and gentlemen, we can we have a chance
+
+01:09:10.480 --> 01:09:13.200
+We have a chance because there's about a year before this
+
+01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:16.880
+Train comes into the station that it's supposed to stop at
+
+01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:23.760
+And I have a feeling that some of the people on the train don't have an intention to have the train stop in a year
+
+01:09:25.440 --> 01:09:33.360
+And so I really need everybody to get excited about what we're going to do over the next six to nine months as we spread this information around
+
+01:09:34.080 --> 01:09:36.080
+in simple graphic form
+
+01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:39.520
+There's a new war out there
+
+01:09:39.840 --> 01:09:45.120
+People are putting little tiny graphic sheets out there trying to teach everybody the basics
+
+01:09:47.040 --> 01:09:50.800
+But of course they're putting little graphic sheets out there of uh, basic bs
+
+01:09:52.320 --> 01:09:54.320
+So giggle and biological has work to do
+
+01:09:55.680 --> 01:10:01.440
+And so what we did in the book is we went back to the original political science definitions of fascism
+
+01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:04.640
+And the work of bonito mouselini early on
+
+01:10:05.280 --> 01:10:10.080
+In which he said fascism should really more appropriately be called corporatism
+
+01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:18.560
+It's the logic that the large corporations are much more capable of governing us than we are of governing ourselves
+
+01:10:19.440 --> 01:10:26.080
+Okay, that's that is what's being advanced. So corporatism is a is a partnership of government and corporations
+
+01:10:26.480 --> 01:10:28.960
+When you hear public private partnership
+
+01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:33.600
+That's a euphemism for corporatism and corporatism is
+
+01:10:34.240 --> 01:10:40.640
+Fascism as defined by bonito mouselini although fascism often has an element of violence to it. I think that um
+
+01:10:41.280 --> 01:10:48.240
+And we've heard all this discussion that fascism, you know, you go fascism nazi anti-semitism
+
+01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:57.920
+Etc the neo-Nazis all of that is garbage. It's it's an overlay that's been created by the media to try to weaponize that
+
+01:10:58.400 --> 01:11:00.400
+We're just like they've weaponized the term
+
+01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:05.280
+Anti-vaxxer and so many other of our language elements
+
+01:11:05.360 --> 01:11:07.360
+They have basically subverted them
+
+01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:13.600
+Change the meaning and weaponize them against us another one you hear in europe all the time is far right
+
+01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:18.720
+In europe right now if you do not want open borders you're far right
+
+01:11:19.360 --> 01:11:20.880
+um
+
+01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:25.760
+You know the un in their agenda 2030 has in there that migration is
+
+01:11:26.240 --> 01:11:32.240
+A universal right and that every country has to allow migrants in this hat
+
+01:11:32.240 --> 01:11:37.120
+This must be something that you guys are sensitive to given where you live right now and close to the border, right?
+
+01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:40.160
+And and the new the change that's happened today
+
+01:11:40.720 --> 01:11:43.680
+Um with the title expiring 42. Yeah
+
+01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:46.480
+Uh
+
+01:11:46.480 --> 01:11:48.480
+Jill's Jill's emphasizing
+
+01:11:49.280 --> 01:11:55.280
+That in agenda 2030 it's defined that it is a human right and we've signed off on this by the way
+
+01:11:55.360 --> 01:12:02.480
+In 2016 with as long as they already passed tense guys the the boat left the dog and and agenda 2030 by the way was signed
+
+01:12:03.040 --> 01:12:06.880
+By the united states by the president of the united states as an agreement
+
+01:12:07.440 --> 01:12:13.280
+But in fact if you go over to the un and you read it, it's actually a treaty and it is binding
+
+01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:15.280
+but
+
+01:12:15.280 --> 01:12:21.440
+US executive office has been doing this thing for the last 20 years slight of hand where we've not
+
+01:12:21.440 --> 01:12:27.200
+Bypass the senate senate has to ratify any treaty by treaty by two-thirds of a majority
+
+01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:30.800
+And they have not done that now. They just say it's an agreement and they sign
+
+01:12:31.360 --> 01:12:38.480
+So this is those presidential agreements are legally binding right right so they are functionally treaties without calling them treaties
+
+01:12:38.560 --> 01:12:40.560
+So they don't have to get the senate to ratify them
+
+01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:46.960
+And they they have signed off on agenda 2030 and as the sheriff probably knows agenda 2030
+
+01:12:47.840 --> 01:12:49.840
+includes the
+
+01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:54.160
+Component that it is a basic human right to migrate to live wherever you want to live
+
+01:12:55.120 --> 01:12:58.000
+And so in having the open border policy
+
+01:12:58.560 --> 01:13:04.000
+What they're doing is implementing agenda 2030 here in the united states and by the way all through europe
+
+01:13:04.560 --> 01:13:12.240
+And the budget reconciliation act that was passed last year that big one if you take that and agenda 2030 you will find that they dovetail
+
+01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:14.000
+legislatively
+
+01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:19.040
+So it's happening here. We're just not getting told about it. It's not conspiracy crazy talk
+
+01:13:19.040 --> 01:13:24.960
+We don't go there. Okay, if we can't like for instance, there's a whole group of people that are mad as hell at us
+
+01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:29.440
+Because we won't endorse the idea that these were kill shots
+
+01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:33.360
+And the jabs i'm talking about and they were engineered
+
+01:13:34.240 --> 01:13:39.360
+For depopulation and eugenics. Okay, that's that's a whole theory and a lot of people subscribe to it
+
+01:13:39.520 --> 01:13:44.480
+We don't go there because we say show us the data. Yeah, show me the artifacts show me
+
+01:13:45.040 --> 01:13:47.040
+You can absolutely see that
+
+01:13:47.040 --> 01:13:52.240
+Is not conspiracy crazy talk. We don't go there. Okay, if we can't like for instance
+
+01:13:52.320 --> 01:13:55.200
+There's a whole group of people that are mad as hell at us
+
+01:13:55.760 --> 01:13:59.680
+Because we won't endorse the idea that these were kill shots
+
+01:14:00.240 --> 01:14:03.680
+And the jabs i'm talking about and they were engineered
+
+01:14:04.480 --> 01:14:09.600
+For depopulation and eugenics. Okay, that's that's a whole theory and a lot of people subscribe to it
+
+01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:14.320
+We don't go there because we say show us the data. Yeah, show me the artifacts
+
+01:14:14.400 --> 01:14:18.560
+Show me like you can absolutely see where cloud schwaft how about where
+
+01:14:19.280 --> 01:14:23.200
+You would know that transfection in healthy humans would be dumb
+
+01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:26.880
+How about that part?
+
+01:14:27.120 --> 01:14:32.800
+How about the part where you knew that multiple transfections to any protein never mind
+
+01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:35.680
+possibly a viral protein
+
+01:14:36.160 --> 01:14:39.440
+Kodan optimized and pseudo-uridine modified
+
+01:14:41.040 --> 01:14:45.280
+I don't know. It's pretty easy for me to come up with a reason why you would say that show me the data
+
+01:14:46.240 --> 01:14:48.240
+You need data?
+
+01:14:50.080 --> 01:14:54.720
+I don't think I need any data to know that transfecting kids would be dumb
+
+01:14:56.640 --> 01:15:01.520
+I don't need data and I don't think he needed data either. I think this is him again. Just
+
+01:15:02.080 --> 01:15:04.080
+basically lying
+
+01:15:04.320 --> 01:15:08.400
+Because if he can say this as the maker or the inventor
+
+01:15:10.080 --> 01:15:15.360
+I mean think about how crazy this is. Okay, why if he invented this
+
+01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:22.000
+23 years before the start of the pandemic if he invented it 23 years ago
+
+01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:30.080
+And it was 100% safe and great that you could use it on billions of people
+
+01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:36.080
+Why in the hell hadn't been used on anybody except for people who were dying of cancer
+
+01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:39.520
+before the pandemic
+
+01:15:40.160 --> 01:15:44.400
+Why hadn't had been used for anything except for people who were dying
+
+01:15:46.480 --> 01:15:48.480
+Why wasn't it useful for something
+
+01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:57.280
+And how could it suddenly become so universally useful that billions of people perhaps millions of children
+
+01:15:58.160 --> 01:16:00.160
+Could be given this therapeutic
+
+01:16:01.200 --> 01:16:03.200
+What had changed about it?
+
+01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:11.440
+Did he really believe that the codon optimization or the chemical modification to pseudo uridine would actually make it safe
+
+01:16:13.120 --> 01:16:19.280
+Beyond what he as a as a lowly postdoc said was certainly the immune response way back when
+
+01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:23.520
+This is so frustrating because
+
+01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:26.880
+Really somebody should be in the in the audience to heckle him
+
+01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:31.680
+That's bullshit. You knew it's just transfection
+
+01:16:33.040 --> 01:16:35.040
+What makes it better?
+
+01:16:37.440 --> 01:16:44.400
+I mean in some respects you could say that putting the original viral sequence would have been the best thing because then you'd most
+
+01:16:45.040 --> 01:16:47.040
+that the highest chance
+
+01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:49.120
+of getting a
+
+01:16:49.120 --> 01:16:54.320
+Reasonably well folded tertiary structure on this protein
+
+01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:56.800
+I
+
+01:16:56.800 --> 01:16:59.840
+Mean ladies and gentlemen, do you understand how?
+
+01:17:01.360 --> 01:17:05.120
+How disturbing this is? I mean keep in mind look look look look
+
+01:17:06.560 --> 01:17:10.400
+Let's just I don't know. I guess I'm not gonna make it. So I'm gonna keep going
+
+01:17:11.440 --> 01:17:13.440
+And just screw this
+
+01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:19.120
+Let's go spike protein 3d crystal
+
+01:17:24.320 --> 01:17:26.320
+I
+
+01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:32.640
+Can we find this crystal structure of the spike protein
+
+01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:44.720
+You've seen a lot of crystal structures of the spike protein. I'm sure you've seen them
+
+01:17:51.360 --> 01:17:53.360
+I've sure you've seen them
+
+01:17:54.480 --> 01:17:56.640
+And these pictures that they show
+
+01:17:58.320 --> 01:18:00.320
+Right
+
+01:18:04.400 --> 01:18:08.400
+Let's just move this over here for a second pictures that they show
+
+01:18:10.240 --> 01:18:12.240
+Like this one here
+
+01:18:14.880 --> 01:18:17.040
+This picture is based on a computer model
+
+01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:20.960
+This picture is based on a computer model
+
+01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:27.840
+The epitopes that that one might choose are based on how this protein is folded
+
+01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:31.760
+And we don't know how this protein is folded. We have computer models
+
+01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:39.680
+And we know that if you choose change the amino acid sequence here to code out optimize it
+
+01:18:40.480 --> 01:18:44.000
+You still will change the way that this is folded, but we don't know how
+
+01:18:45.440 --> 01:18:50.880
+And we know for sure that if you chemically alter the urad the uracils to make them pseudo urad
+
+01:18:51.360 --> 01:18:55.760
+You'll also change this three-dimensional structure, but we don't know how
+
+01:18:58.240 --> 01:19:02.800
+And so all this certain talk it drives me crazy
+
+01:19:07.680 --> 01:19:12.800
+Because what they're covering up for is that this was known if you transfected people you would give them
+
+01:19:13.280 --> 01:19:14.800
+endo red
+
+01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:16.800
+endoplasmic reticulum stress
+
+01:19:17.200 --> 01:19:23.440
+Endoplasmic reticulum is the organelle in the cell where all the ribosomes sit
+
+01:19:24.080 --> 01:19:26.080
+if that organelle is stressed
+
+01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:29.040
+And stressed means molecular stress. It means
+
+01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:32.880
+It means free radicals around
+
+01:19:34.720 --> 01:19:39.120
+Then the protein folding doesn't go as well then the protein translation doesn't go as well
+
+01:19:39.120 --> 01:19:43.040
+It's not as high fidelity and also that it if the folding is not so great
+
+01:19:43.040 --> 01:19:45.040
+And
+
+01:19:46.400 --> 01:19:50.480
+So these things are all real they're all real and they all come from
+
+01:19:53.120 --> 01:19:56.160
+Over expression of a protein driven by foreign RNA
+
+01:19:57.440 --> 01:20:01.520
+It's just not a system that you can overdrive proteins on without
+
+01:20:02.720 --> 01:20:04.720
+permanently disregulating it
+
+01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:07.920
+It's not like you're just adding a few
+
+01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:10.560
+songs to a jute box
+
+01:20:11.440 --> 01:20:13.440
+And then they go into the rotation
+
+01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:18.160
+You are looking at a carefully orchestrated cell
+
+01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:21.520
+You know with a exact amount of
+
+01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:29.520
+RNA where it needs to be being digested at exactly the right speed and then replaced at exactly the right speed and now here's
+
+01:20:30.320 --> 01:20:32.720
+Millions of copies of a foreign RNA
+
+01:20:34.160 --> 01:20:37.840
+A very foreign RNA millions of copies of it
+
+01:20:38.640 --> 01:20:39.960
+with a
+
+01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:41.440
+preponderance of
+
+01:20:41.440 --> 01:20:43.440
+pseudo-uridine so your
+
+01:20:44.240 --> 01:20:50.080
+Your your enzymes that would normally you know regulate its presence are kind of turned off by it or something
+
+01:20:50.080 --> 01:20:52.080
+I don't know what's going to happen to it
+
+01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:55.520
+But the point is is that in all of that
+
+01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:58.560
+Regular RNA in that cell is now all
+
+01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:04.240
+dysregulated because the ribosomes are completely occupied by this flood of incoming RNA
+
+01:21:05.040 --> 01:21:07.040
+And
+
+01:21:07.040 --> 01:21:15.280
+So no matter what tissue it's done to the tissue will inevitably have a combination of toxicity from the overexpression of the foreign protein or proteins
+
+01:21:17.200 --> 01:21:21.680
+toxicity from the presence of the RNA possibly toxicity from the lip and nanoparticle
+
+01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:31.440
+And eventually an immune response in that responds to the presentation of these proteins on mhc1
+
+01:21:32.240 --> 01:21:38.560
+On the outside and not being recognized by natural killer cells not being recognized by cytotoxic T cells
+
+01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:43.680
+But mostly natural killer cells excuse me because that would be
+
+01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:46.000
+the protein
+
+01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:48.000
+not being recognized
+
+01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:53.040
+And then you have cell death then you need neutrophils to mop it up then you need a immune response
+
+01:21:54.880 --> 01:21:58.800
+So he could have known because it's transfection he could have known because he knows how it works
+
+01:21:58.880 --> 01:22:03.840
+Could have known because he has all the patents he could have known because he's the one who decided that this
+
+01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:07.360
+This technology wasn't really worth pursuing
+
+01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:10.880
+He said it in interviews before
+
+01:22:13.840 --> 01:22:19.680
+And yet here he is in 2023 painting it as if he had you know, I don't know, I didn't know any more than you did
+
+01:22:19.680 --> 01:22:22.640
+I didn't know who did this. How can I possibly know who did it?
+
+01:22:23.200 --> 01:22:27.680
+Well, Robert if an ovio would have gotten the contract who would have who would have done it
+
+01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:31.520
+So
+
+01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:37.520
+Talks about the need for prediction and population where bill gates talks about the need for production and population
+
+01:22:37.840 --> 01:22:44.080
+But I haven't seen the artifacts in which bill gates says we're going to engineer a bioweapon
+
+01:22:44.560 --> 01:22:51.840
+mRNA based jab in order to compromise fertility by the way they do compromise fertility and men and women
+
+01:22:52.640 --> 01:22:55.200
+To kill old people and to kill and to kill old people
+
+01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:59.280
+Because we want to reduce the stress on the social security system
+
+01:22:59.280 --> 01:23:06.320
+I mean you can weave all kinds of stories, but you were in you were in Hawaii in 2021 telling them to
+
+01:23:06.960 --> 01:23:08.960
+inoculate the old people
+
+01:23:09.760 --> 01:23:12.080
+So if it was a plan to kill the old people
+
+01:23:12.800 --> 01:23:16.720
+I mean, what are you talking about Robert? But agenda 2030 is real
+
+01:23:17.360 --> 01:23:20.640
+Okay, it is a real document. You can go find it
+
+01:23:21.120 --> 01:23:27.760
+You can read it and you can see how far away is this from saying that the UN is going to take over the United States
+
+01:23:27.840 --> 01:23:29.840
+And there's nothing you can do about it
+
+01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:37.840
+I'm here to tell you that the UN is going to take over the United States and there's nothing you can do about it because fifth generation warfare has no heads
+
+01:23:38.960 --> 01:23:40.960
+You can't see who's doing it
+
+01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:46.080
+I mean, that's exactly what they're saying here
+
+01:23:47.040 --> 01:23:49.040
+That's what they've sold us in May
+
+01:23:50.080 --> 01:23:53.280
+2023 it's fifth generation warfare. I'm going to speak about it tomorrow
+
+01:23:53.280 --> 01:23:56.880
+But I spoke about it in in Stockholm, Sweden a year ago
+
+01:23:58.080 --> 01:24:00.080
+You can't figure out who this is
+
+01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:04.320
+That's the definition of fifth generation warfare. You can't stop it
+
+01:24:07.920 --> 01:24:11.520
+And so the UN is going to take over agenda 30 2030 is real
+
+01:24:12.320 --> 01:24:15.760
+And the melons are here to help you accept it
+
+01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:19.600
+And to fight on your behalf
+
+01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:22.000
+to fight on your behalf
+
+01:24:22.320 --> 01:24:26.480
+Either a lot of the stuff that you're objecting to I suspect if you're since you're here
+
+01:24:27.040 --> 01:24:29.520
+Um is real. Okay, and just to say
+
+01:24:30.400 --> 01:24:36.000
+And that this is a created virus is absolutely real that document is clear
+
+01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:38.000
+Um
+
+01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:40.560
+So one of the lovely things about being
+
+01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:46.560
+Read it and you can see that a lot of the stuff that you're objecting to I suspect if you're since you're here
+
+01:24:47.120 --> 01:24:49.040
+Um is real. Okay
+
+01:24:49.040 --> 01:24:56.160
+And just to say gain a function and that this is a created virus is absolutely real that document is clear
+
+01:24:58.160 --> 01:25:04.240
+Yeah, so one of the lovely things about being I mean there's some serious downsides to be so close to dc
+
+01:25:05.120 --> 01:25:07.920
+Which is the trapping but you guys aren't immune to that either
+
+01:25:08.400 --> 01:25:14.400
+Um, but uh the culture of dc is deeply corrupted. I mean people people ask me
+
+01:25:14.720 --> 01:25:20.080
+Oh, don't you want to be involved in this administration or that administration take this business and I'm like hell no
+
+01:25:20.560 --> 01:25:27.360
+I don't want to live in dc. I have been there done that. I know what that culture is all about. It will rot your soul
+
+01:25:28.400 --> 01:25:31.040
+Um, I absolutely want nothing to do with it
+
+01:25:31.600 --> 01:25:37.280
+But one of the good things about being there is we do hear an awful lot
+
+01:25:37.280 --> 01:25:40.720
+We're surrounded by some of the top conservative leaders in the united states
+
+01:25:41.200 --> 01:25:45.520
+Live in rapahannic county. Basically. They're all expats from dc in northern, virginia
+
+01:25:46.560 --> 01:25:48.560
+on their farms and
+
+01:25:48.800 --> 01:25:52.240
+So we get brought into those circles when we get to hear stuff, which is kind of nice
+
+01:25:52.640 --> 01:25:59.600
+Yeah, and just to say talking about the foyer documents how we know it is gain a function research is because of tomfenton
+
+01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:05.920
+And judicial watch and he is amazing and we all need to support that organization. Yeah
+
+01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:10.960
+Um, so we're members of the council for national policy. We'll be there in a couple of weeks
+
+01:26:11.440 --> 01:26:17.360
+Um, which tom is basically running current. No, well, he's not running but he's a big part of yeah, um
+
+01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:25.840
+So, uh, so that's all real the great reset is not a fabricated conspiracy theory
+
+01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:31.120
+You can buy claus Schwab's book. You can buy his book of a great narrative
+
+01:26:32.080 --> 01:26:34.080
+that kind of carries that on further
+
+01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:38.480
+And just to hope i'm not saying things you all already know
+
+01:26:39.200 --> 01:26:43.760
+Um claus Schwab was not the guy that actually first announced the great reset
+
+01:26:45.200 --> 01:26:47.760
+Um, it was the current mark of great brit
+
+01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:49.760
+Okay
+
+01:26:49.760 --> 01:26:54.160
+He was the one that really first came out with the whole logic of the great reset
+
+01:26:54.160 --> 01:26:56.720
+He is totally in with the world economic forum
+
+01:26:57.280 --> 01:27:01.840
+I don't know what's going to happen to gree brit now one of the things that he wanted when I was I was on um
+
+01:27:02.400 --> 01:27:07.040
+Uh a great gb news the other day with niel all of her for the coronation day
+
+01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:10.960
+Um, he's asking for the fealty of of the british public
+
+01:27:11.920 --> 01:27:14.080
+Um that was taken out finally in the end
+
+01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:16.320
+Yeah, but
+
+01:27:16.320 --> 01:27:22.880
+So we're I don't I don't really know who's behind all this we've we've got various theories
+
+01:27:22.960 --> 01:27:26.560
+Is it the cia is at the dot is at the wef is it?
+
+01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:31.840
+pharma and weaponizing all of the above is at the bank of international settlements and all the world banks
+
+01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:37.360
+I mean, it's the is it the creature from jekyll island? We would but but to go back but to go back
+
+01:27:37.680 --> 01:27:39.680
+You got to read the book
+
+01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:44.240
+So so one of our little red-pilled stories was in
+
+01:27:45.040 --> 01:27:48.160
+2014 there was a significant outbreak of abola
+
+01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:54.000
+And we were involved in so I want you to see how how impressive it is that really
+
+01:27:55.600 --> 01:28:00.080
+I really think that you can see where we are. I don't know how much more we're going to have to study them
+
+01:28:01.200 --> 01:28:03.760
+Because I think the controllers have realized
+
+01:28:04.960 --> 01:28:06.960
+That you can announce everything
+
+01:28:07.680 --> 01:28:09.680
+You can tell people to read
+
+01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:15.680
+At this stage
+
+01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:20.880
+I think it would be totally okay for me or robber melon to recommend tragedy and hope
+
+01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:23.680
+as we required reading for everyone
+
+01:28:24.960 --> 01:28:26.960
+So that you just know what's going on
+
+01:28:27.440 --> 01:28:29.840
+So that you can finally accept how you're being governed
+
+01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:36.080
+And the bottom line is is that there's nothing in this book about viruses
+
+01:28:37.040 --> 01:28:39.760
+And so there's no reason why you can't tell people to read it
+
+01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:43.200
+There's nothing in this book about pandemics
+
+01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:48.800
+Nothing in this book about mRNA or about transfection or transformation
+
+01:28:49.920 --> 01:28:54.080
+Only thing that's in this book is that you should accept the idea that there are smart people
+
+01:28:55.120 --> 01:29:01.120
+Who if given the reins of civilization could take us places which we would never take ourselves on our own
+
+01:29:02.880 --> 01:29:08.320
+And that's really the story that robber melon wants to be a part of because he sees himself as worthy
+
+01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:12.880
+Of being on that cloud of people that's governing
+
+01:29:13.680 --> 01:29:15.680
+the ants below
+
+01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:18.880
+That's what this is all about. These are people auditioning
+
+01:29:20.400 --> 01:29:21.840
+That's right
+
+01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:23.840
+These people are auditioning
+
+01:29:24.160 --> 01:29:26.320
+That's why the current
+
+01:29:26.320 --> 01:29:28.960
+Stock of presidential candidates is such a joke
+
+01:29:29.680 --> 01:29:31.680
+Because these people are auditioning
+
+01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:34.800
+They want to be a part of the show
+
+01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:38.000
+And they're kind of in the audience, but maybe they're
+
+01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:41.920
+You know just right in the front row or right on the edges or you know
+
+01:29:42.800 --> 01:29:45.040
+They got on the steps that leads up to the
+
+01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:48.880
+the places where the curtain rods and the and the ropes are
+
+01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:55.040
+And so they're begging to be led on as an extra just give me a chance. I won't screw it up. I promise
+
+01:29:57.760 --> 01:30:01.040
+And so they're basically allowed to say whatever you want. He's talking about the
+
+01:30:01.760 --> 01:30:04.960
+The monster at jekyll island or whatever. That's a great story
+
+01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:07.680
+It's a real story
+
+01:30:08.320 --> 01:30:10.320
+By a real american hero
+
+01:30:11.120 --> 01:30:13.120
+Edward griffin
+
+01:30:13.440 --> 01:30:17.600
+Just like this is a real american story by a real american hero carol quickly
+
+01:30:19.200 --> 01:30:21.440
+And everybody should read it. It's not light reading
+
+01:30:22.560 --> 01:30:26.240
+And if I have to be honest with you, I've only read about one third of it because I read
+
+01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:30.400
+A good chunk and then I stop for a while and I usually start somewhere else
+
+01:30:32.320 --> 01:30:35.040
+At some point I'll start at the beginning. I did once
+
+01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:38.960
+But it's an extraordinary tomb
+
+01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:41.920
+Of information
+
+01:30:42.320 --> 01:30:47.440
+That all you need to do is look into what you want to find in it and usually there's a reference for it
+
+01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:52.240
+Usually it's part of the story because this is really a big story
+
+01:30:53.840 --> 01:31:00.000
+It's for all the marbles ladies and gentlemen believe it or not. We live in the most interesting time in human history
+
+01:31:02.240 --> 01:31:06.640
+And I don't think that rober melon is the most interesting man in human history
+
+01:31:07.520 --> 01:31:11.440
+But I do believe that everyone that's currently alive and in the play
+
+01:31:12.480 --> 01:31:14.160
+is part of
+
+01:31:14.160 --> 01:31:16.240
+the most interesting time in human history
+
+01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:20.000
+And so pad yourself on the back for being awake
+
+01:31:20.960 --> 01:31:22.960
+Pad yourself on the back for being present
+
+01:31:24.320 --> 01:31:28.960
+In the automobile and not distracted by the really nice leather seats
+
+01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:32.560
+Or the
+
+01:31:32.560 --> 01:31:34.560
+unbelievably nice stereo system
+
+01:31:34.880 --> 01:31:36.880
+Or the walnut lined
+
+01:31:36.880 --> 01:31:38.880
+You know dashboard
+
+01:31:39.280 --> 01:31:43.520
+You've been looking out the window and you've seen the poverty you've seen the homeless people
+
+01:31:44.320 --> 01:31:48.640
+You've seen how bad the road is despite how nice the the shocks are
+
+01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:53.520
+You've seen the pollution you've seen the lies
+
+01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:59.040
+That's the biggest part is to see the lies
+
+01:32:01.120 --> 01:32:03.120
+And that's what we see here
+
+01:32:03.760 --> 01:32:05.760
+We see people who purport
+
+01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:08.640
+To be seeing through it purport
+
+01:32:09.200 --> 01:32:12.720
+To be leading these people through it by dropping these little hints. Yeah, like oh, you know
+
+01:32:13.280 --> 01:32:15.280
+retreadgity and hope
+
+01:32:15.680 --> 01:32:19.360
+Part of the reason why you can say retreadgity and hope is because nobody can get it
+
+01:32:21.360 --> 01:32:24.080
+You want to copy like this one and it'll cost you 500 bucks
+
+01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:31.920
+And my guess is is the ones that are normal priced are probably edited or something's taken out of them
+
+01:32:32.240 --> 01:32:35.200
+I've always meant to buy one just to see but then what am I going to do that?
+
+01:32:39.760 --> 01:32:44.000
+It's for all the marbles ladies and gentlemen it is for all the marbles
+
+01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:46.800
+So these people are spectacularly committed to the lies
+
+01:32:47.440 --> 01:32:52.080
+Finding and bringing helping to bring a vaccine now, you know abola in that outbreak
+
+01:32:52.560 --> 01:32:57.360
+Was not a respiratory virus, which is what everybody was scared of that it had gone respiratory
+
+01:32:57.440 --> 01:33:00.720
+I once got a call from a buddy who just come out of a pentagon briefing
+
+01:33:01.200 --> 01:33:06.160
+As I was going to art my client new link who had the vaccine candidate from Canada
+
+01:33:06.400 --> 01:33:08.800
+That eventually became the murk vaccine he calls me up
+
+01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:11.840
+I pull off the side of the road pick the cell and he says robert
+
+01:33:11.920 --> 01:33:16.000
+You have got to get this thing spun up because I've just come out of a secret meeting in the pentagon
+
+01:33:16.480 --> 01:33:19.760
+And we have a scenario if this thing goes aerosol
+
+01:33:19.840 --> 01:33:22.640
+We are going to have a billion dead in the united states every in the world
+
+01:33:22.720 --> 01:33:25.840
+A billion dead in the world so so so for us when there's
+
+01:33:26.560 --> 01:33:32.400
+A highly lethal respiratory virus, which hasn't come along probably in our lifetimes really
+
+01:33:33.280 --> 01:33:35.280
+A vaccine is this was not
+
+01:33:35.280 --> 01:33:38.000
+We have always thought that a vaccine would be an option
+
+01:33:38.080 --> 01:33:41.120
+But the problem is is you cannot make a vaccine in time
+
+01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:46.480
+Okay, you just can't you cannot make a safe and effective vaccine. So let me let me go through so in abola
+
+01:33:47.040 --> 01:33:53.360
+Um, there was already health can had already made a vaccine and they actually had clinical stockpiles
+
+01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:59.680
+And so it was just a question of getting the clinical trials run reducing the dose finding funding
+
+01:33:59.760 --> 01:34:01.840
+Which we helped with but we came away going
+
+01:34:02.400 --> 01:34:06.000
+You know, this is still going to take five years and this product has already developed
+
+01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:09.360
+How could this ever help in a highly lethal situation?
+
+01:34:09.360 --> 01:34:11.200
+So when zika came along
+
+01:34:11.200 --> 01:34:15.440
+We completely changed our thinking and we thought what we need to do is find repurposed drugs that can be
+
+01:34:15.920 --> 01:34:20.800
+Against the respiratory virus. So in 2016 we started working on repurposed drugs
+
+01:34:20.960 --> 01:34:23.920
+Mosquito board virus. It was a mosquito board virus. That's right. But um
+
+01:34:25.200 --> 01:34:27.040
+But again, we had
+
+01:34:27.040 --> 01:34:29.760
+Absolutely, you know almost no interest from nih
+
+01:34:30.320 --> 01:34:36.960
+Um hhs, we had some interest for the dod in trying to find something we again voluntarily
+
+01:34:36.960 --> 01:34:41.600
+I don't understand. Is that what they do? They force farm and whenever they get a phone call
+
+01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:44.000
+They start looking for stuff to cure diseases
+
+01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:47.680
+I don't really get it
+
+01:34:48.160 --> 01:34:50.160
+They didn't have any money
+
+01:34:50.240 --> 01:34:53.520
+Somebody needed to donate money and before that they couldn't really fight
+
+01:34:54.800 --> 01:34:58.880
+Or they were using their own money, but they make it like they don't have any money
+
+01:35:00.240 --> 01:35:02.240
+But what do they do?
+
+01:35:02.720 --> 01:35:10.400
+What are they doing if they're ready to respond to world diseases all the time? What do they actually do? What is their job?
+
+01:35:11.760 --> 01:35:13.760
+He's a consultant
+
+01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:15.760
+I
+
+01:35:18.400 --> 01:35:21.520
+Consultant for everybody for anybody
+
+01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:27.840
+Probably on intellectual property a lot
+
+01:35:28.320 --> 01:35:33.280
+Really, you know wrote papers and and we were all in. I mean we we you know
+
+01:35:33.520 --> 01:35:37.680
+Ivermectin and hydroxychloricone were two of the drugs, but just to say it
+
+01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:40.640
+Over over covid
+
+01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:45.280
+What's been weaponized is those two drugs, but there's about 20 drugs that you can use in covid
+
+01:35:45.280 --> 01:35:49.760
+It's not just it's a multi drug therapy and um and it works
+
+01:35:50.240 --> 01:35:54.400
+So so we were all in and then we were further red-pilled against
+
+01:35:54.960 --> 01:36:01.360
+Childhood vaccines when robert was asked to be an expert witness for did you ever think you'd say why I'd rather let us listen to whitney web
+
+01:36:02.160 --> 01:36:04.160
+Holy cow for a large
+
+01:36:04.240 --> 01:36:05.120
+um
+
+01:36:05.200 --> 01:36:09.200
+Was a blue core case that we can't talk about but when he saw the date he was like
+
+01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:14.720
+Oh my gosh, and so that's was that ended in 2019 and then covid hit
+
+01:36:15.120 --> 01:36:20.640
+And we went all in on repurposed drugs and we could not believe we could not understand the government
+
+01:36:20.880 --> 01:36:24.640
+We we still we still can't understand who the puppet master is who?
+
+01:36:25.120 --> 01:36:31.680
+So we said because I like working with the dod more than hhs because dod personnel historically
+
+01:36:31.680 --> 01:36:35.600
+I mean everybody's got their biases about how wicked the dod is
+
+01:36:36.160 --> 01:36:38.080
+um, but the truth is
+
+01:36:38.080 --> 01:36:40.080
+the dod bio threat
+
+01:36:40.640 --> 01:36:42.640
+Was run by fauci
+
+01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:44.640
+Yeah, um, so
+
+01:36:45.040 --> 01:36:51.680
+My experience with working with the dod is they tend to be not very interested in high profile academic
+
+01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:54.000
+publications and getting the nobel prize
+
+01:36:54.240 --> 01:36:56.160
+Um and building their careers there
+
+01:36:56.160 --> 01:37:03.040
+But he said in that control interview that he was working for the dod and he liked working for the dod because they could just do stuff
+
+01:37:03.120 --> 01:37:04.320
+what
+
+01:37:04.320 --> 01:37:06.320
+What is going on here?
+
+01:37:08.160 --> 01:37:10.160
+Don't you see this is a medler
+
+01:37:11.680 --> 01:37:13.680
+And that should concern us
+
+01:37:14.080 --> 01:37:16.480
+Because his his fingers are in every
+
+01:37:17.360 --> 01:37:19.520
+Every freedom group
+
+01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:24.240
+Every freedom movement every freedom conference that'll have him he's there
+
+01:37:25.120 --> 01:37:27.120
+But he's clearly a liar
+
+01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:32.320
+He's not a man of integrity. He's a liar
+
+01:37:34.080 --> 01:37:36.080
+And so what are we doing?
+
+01:37:36.640 --> 01:37:40.960
+Why aren't we calling this man out? Why aren't we saying that, you know, he's a liar though?
+
+01:37:42.560 --> 01:37:47.120
+Because now he says he didn't work for the dod, but when he was on paul cotrell's stream
+
+01:37:48.720 --> 01:37:51.520
+With a soon to be january sixth fugitive
+
+01:37:52.480 --> 01:37:54.800
+I mean you gotta be kidding me
+
+01:37:56.080 --> 01:38:02.240
+Or was it after he was a january sixth fugitive? I don't know holy man. This is ridiculous
+
+01:38:04.400 --> 01:38:07.840
+You're interested in deploying stuff that works for the warfighter
+
+01:38:08.400 --> 01:38:14.960
+Okay, and so I really I've always preferred to work with dod because they're very results oriented frankly
+
+01:38:15.440 --> 01:38:18.960
+Now i'm getting attacked all the time because I have this history of working with the dod
+
+01:38:19.120 --> 01:38:22.240
+Oh, there you go. Do it and why I did it in the past now
+
+01:38:22.240 --> 01:38:28.160
+They don't want to talk to me because I'm kind of out of them and we talked about all these problems, but um the
+
+01:38:30.320 --> 01:38:33.040
+Logic of repurposing drugs
+
+01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:39.920
+I'm sure that's how it works. I'm sure you can just out the dod and they don't do anything. I'm sure they can bet that's how that works
+
+01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:44.880
+I'm sure that's how that works. He has absolutely no commercial interest
+
+01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:51.600
+They that that there is that was our takeaway from zika. We created a company
+
+01:38:52.640 --> 01:38:58.400
+Tried to get it capitalized. We had multiple patents filed for repurposed drugs for use for zika
+
+01:38:58.720 --> 01:39:06.160
+We had fantastic data and we could get no so what is the what does it mean when you file a patent for the use of repurposed drugs
+
+01:39:06.240 --> 01:39:10.640
+Are you telling me and I think I smell something very stinky here
+
+01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:13.760
+Are you telling me
+
+01:39:13.840 --> 01:39:18.640
+That you can take a combination of repurposed drugs and patent it
+
+01:39:20.240 --> 01:39:22.400
+Like for example, you take a if you take
+
+01:39:23.040 --> 01:39:28.800
+Hydroxychloroquine and you combine it with ivermectin could you make that into a patented drug?
+
+01:39:29.280 --> 01:39:32.000
+Because if you can that is some serious
+
+01:39:35.520 --> 01:39:40.720
+I think you can do that and I think that's what he's talking about and I think that's a
+
+01:39:41.040 --> 01:39:43.840
+That's a that's a new stone unturned
+
+01:39:44.480 --> 01:39:51.360
+Of the absolute bullshit storm that this is I'm going to rewind it absolutely no commercial interest
+
+01:39:52.560 --> 01:39:58.000
+They that that there is that was our takeaway from zika. We created a company
+
+01:39:59.040 --> 01:40:04.800
+Tried to get it capitalized. We had multiple patents filed for repurposed drugs for use for zika
+
+01:40:05.200 --> 01:40:10.320
+We had fantastic data and we could get no funding there is no interest
+
+01:40:10.960 --> 01:40:14.960
+in commercial development of existing off patent drugs
+
+01:40:15.840 --> 01:40:21.840
+All this gibber jabber about oh, we're doing this all for humanity and venture philanthropy and all that
+
+01:40:22.400 --> 01:40:30.560
+They they don't care. They it's absolutely true that they want stuff that they could patent and they can make a mountain of money on
+
+01:40:31.200 --> 01:40:38.400
+And that includes that includes the nyad researchers who if they have a patent under the bidol act
+
+01:40:38.480 --> 01:40:44.160
+Which was passed in 1980 the inventors get about 40 of the profit
+
+01:40:44.640 --> 01:40:46.640
+So all of the government employees
+
+01:40:47.120 --> 01:40:50.560
+And so now keep in mind and this has been pointed out to me recently
+
+01:40:51.360 --> 01:40:57.440
+But the patents that robert melon held on the frna technology or his names appear on
+
+01:40:58.400 --> 01:41:01.360
+Expired like this year or last year
+
+01:41:02.240 --> 01:41:04.320
+And so when he originally came on the scene
+
+01:41:05.360 --> 01:41:07.360
+in his desperate
+
+01:41:07.360 --> 01:41:10.640
+Claim for you know, it's a little credit over here
+
+01:41:13.200 --> 01:41:16.480
+That came at a time when the patent still kind of existed
+
+01:41:17.680 --> 01:41:19.840
+and still were kind of in play
+
+01:41:21.120 --> 01:41:25.120
+And now that they're not in play it seems like his story has changed a little bit
+
+01:41:25.200 --> 01:41:30.000
+Now it's kind of slimy with people who want patents people aren't even really interested in patents
+
+01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:33.840
+And they're not really interested in repurposed drugs unless they can patent them
+
+01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:38.000
+But when I came out two years ago was all about my eight patents
+
+01:41:39.280 --> 01:41:42.480
+And how my patents mean that I was on the way I did it
+
+01:41:43.040 --> 01:41:47.120
+It's my technology that's saving millions of people around the world. That's what Jill said
+
+01:41:49.280 --> 01:41:54.320
+But now people are not interested unless they can have a patent, but I have the patents patents patents
+
+01:41:54.400 --> 01:41:59.200
+Who are on a patent for MacDurna or Pfizer, you know, they're probably almost billionaires
+
+01:41:59.440 --> 01:42:03.120
+He used to be that the government employees were prohibited from this
+
+01:42:03.200 --> 01:42:09.120
+So the the logic was to incentivize academics and academic institutions like the University of California
+
+01:42:09.680 --> 01:42:12.080
+Which has a huge alameda based patent office
+
+01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:18.000
+To go ahead and pursue intellectual property because all this IP was being generated within the universities
+
+01:42:18.320 --> 01:42:22.160
+And it wasn't going anywhere because nobody cared because they couldn't make money off of it
+
+01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:25.840
+And they put the bidol act in place and they put these incentives
+
+01:42:26.240 --> 01:42:32.400
+So that the dean of uc san diego or or you know this investigator or that department chair
+
+01:42:32.880 --> 01:42:35.360
+Gets to make a ton of money on patent
+
+01:42:36.080 --> 01:42:39.520
+I don't see he's a tonic live in the chat anymore. Maybe he's having a
+
+01:42:40.240 --> 01:42:44.560
+Having a good date night royalty revenue if something gets invented within
+
+01:42:45.120 --> 01:42:49.440
+That um organization or in within one of their laboratories. What's this is done?
+
+01:42:49.920 --> 01:42:54.880
+Is it's transformed academia into basically an arm of the pharmaceutical industry
+
+01:42:55.360 --> 01:43:02.240
+And it's and it's motivated all of these investigators to be basically chasing patents and chasing revenue
+
+01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:06.800
+Associated with working with pharma. That's part of why you a lot of us have been perplexed
+
+01:43:07.360 --> 01:43:12.720
+What happened to academe through this last three years through the covid crisis?
+
+01:43:12.720 --> 01:43:14.720
+How do they all become so corrupted?
+
+01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:21.680
+It's I mean, it's very easy to consider the possibility that rubber melon just didn't want to be left behind the train of of of history
+
+01:43:22.880 --> 01:43:28.560
+And that as he saw the mr&a gets sucked up into the machine and realize what they were going to do and how
+
+01:43:29.440 --> 01:43:31.280
+Willing they were to
+
+01:43:31.280 --> 01:43:33.520
+To push it to billions of of arms
+
+01:43:34.480 --> 01:43:40.560
+He realized well if they're going to do it, then I better raise my hand now and say it's I was part of this or i'll never be able to say it
+
+01:43:41.280 --> 01:43:43.200
+And
+
+01:43:43.200 --> 01:43:48.560
+At the time that it was coming out and the hype that it was getting on tv you could imagine a scenario where you would be like
+
+01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:50.560
+Well, I guess I better say something
+
+01:43:53.680 --> 01:43:58.800
+And so it's starting to look to me a lot more like these are two pretty ordinary people
+
+01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:03.200
+Pretty ordinary people with ordinary means
+
+01:44:04.080 --> 01:44:06.080
+being sucked into doing something that
+
+01:44:06.880 --> 01:44:11.280
+Is serving a lot of other people more than it serves them which doesn't make them great
+
+01:44:13.040 --> 01:44:15.040
+But it doesn't make them masterminds either
+
+01:44:17.360 --> 01:44:19.360
+It's something here to be pitied
+
+01:44:20.480 --> 01:44:22.480
+There's something to hear to be ashamed of
+
+01:44:24.160 --> 01:44:30.480
+There's something here to shake your head at but not necessarily to shiver and fear from
+
+01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:33.360
+Definitely
+
+01:44:33.440 --> 01:44:35.440
+Something to be annoyed by because
+
+01:44:36.080 --> 01:44:38.080
+They're not really
+
+01:44:38.080 --> 01:44:40.080
+The people that they report to be
+
+01:44:40.640 --> 01:44:42.640
+That much is very certain to me
+
+01:44:44.560 --> 01:44:47.920
+Going on for a long time. It's just that it's now been revealed
+
+01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:52.400
+Okay, and and it didn't used to extend to the guvies
+
+01:44:53.360 --> 01:44:56.160
+But now the government workers have that same deal
+
+01:44:56.800 --> 01:45:00.960
+Which is why tony fauci is sitting on a mountain of cash right now
+
+01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:03.520
+Not just making more in salary
+
+01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:09.200
+He makes more in retirement if he didn't know this he makes more in retirement in his annual salary
+
+01:45:09.520 --> 01:45:13.120
+Then the president makes for the active sitting president
+
+01:45:13.840 --> 01:45:17.440
+Okay, it's stunning and that doesn't include his royalty revenue
+
+01:45:18.080 --> 01:45:24.800
+Okay, he is sitting on a mountain of cash and by the way, they've hired him back as a consultant and given him six
+
+01:45:25.200 --> 01:45:29.440
+FTE six full-time employees as security and drivers
+
+01:45:30.080 --> 01:45:36.480
+Okay, so he's driven around dc in in his nice bulletproof SUV at the expense of you guys
+
+01:45:37.120 --> 01:45:42.880
+Um currently, you know, it's it's not a private party really. He's just another
+
+01:45:43.360 --> 01:45:46.320
+Gubby that's just retired and then come back to double dip
+
+01:45:47.520 --> 01:45:55.040
+So that's that's the world of dc and but there's another there's another point to that though and that is it's a little off topic and that is
+
+01:45:56.480 --> 01:45:57.360
+um
+
+01:45:57.360 --> 01:46:00.000
+Agenda f I do any of you know about this right?
+
+01:46:00.400 --> 01:46:02.400
+Trump schedule up schedule up
+
+01:46:02.800 --> 01:46:04.800
+So another thing we talked about in the book
+
+01:46:04.880 --> 01:46:11.440
+Yeah, that's third where we talk about what can we do about this? So, um, we have an executive
+
+01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:15.600
+I'm sorry. What is it senior executive service senior executive service that cannot
+
+01:46:16.560 --> 01:46:22.880
+In the federal government so you can fire them when you hear steve ban and talk about the administrative state
+
+01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:26.240
+This is this group of employees and they're large
+
+01:46:26.240 --> 01:46:29.360
+It's a couple of thousands of people. They actually have their own flag
+
+01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:33.280
+Yeah, okay. The senior executive service has its own flag at its own badge
+
+01:46:33.840 --> 01:46:38.160
+Do you hear this? Are you hearing it senior executive service that thing that like
+
+01:46:39.200 --> 01:46:44.480
+Did like john karaoke told me was nothing was a joke was a nothing burger
+
+01:46:45.200 --> 01:46:48.160
+That actually I think we also talked about it with regular guy
+
+01:46:48.800 --> 01:46:54.560
+And that it was a nothing burger like these people can definitely be fired. It's absurd
+
+01:46:55.520 --> 01:47:00.720
+Like they can definitely be fired because they even have a limited car. It's a ridiculous statement
+
+01:47:01.520 --> 01:47:03.520
+And they said millions of them
+
+01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:05.760
+Did you hear it?
+
+01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:13.440
+Yeah, and they cannot be fired and so what can we do about this? So, um, we have an executive
+
+01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:19.600
+I'm sorry. What is it senior executive service senior executive service that cannot be fired in the federal government
+
+01:47:19.600 --> 01:47:26.720
+So you may not when you hear steve ban and talk about the administrative president can't fire a janitor either
+
+01:47:26.720 --> 01:47:31.120
+What is he taught? What is this? This is this group of employees and they're large
+
+01:47:31.920 --> 01:47:35.360
+Couple of thousands of people they actually have their own flag a couple million
+
+01:47:37.520 --> 01:47:40.960
+Then robert malonkorexer and says it's thousands flag
+
+01:47:41.360 --> 01:47:47.840
+Yeah, okay. The senior executive service has its own flag at its own badge. Yeah. Yeah, and employees and they're large
+
+01:47:48.640 --> 01:47:51.040
+Couple of thousands of people they actually have their own flag
+
+01:47:51.440 --> 01:47:54.960
+Yeah, okay. The senior executive service has its own flag at its own badge
+
+01:47:55.280 --> 01:47:55.840
+Yeah
+
+01:47:55.840 --> 01:48:01.760
+And they cannot be fired and this this started historically with president mckinley who was
+
+01:48:02.400 --> 01:48:04.000
+assassinated and um
+
+01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:10.960
+It was assassinated because somebody that worked on his campaign thought he president mckinley it all started with president mckinley
+
+01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:16.000
+It all started with president mckinley. Did you hear that mark?
+
+01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:18.880
+Oh my god
+
+01:48:18.960 --> 01:48:22.480
+Arch it's a couple of thousands of people. They actually have their own flag
+
+01:48:22.880 --> 01:48:29.280
+Yeah, okay. The senior executive service has its own flag at its own badge. Yeah, and they cannot be fired
+
+01:48:29.360 --> 01:48:34.240
+And this this started historically with president mckinley who was assassinated
+
+01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:36.880
+and um
+
+01:48:36.880 --> 01:48:38.880
+Somebody
+
+01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:41.680
+Was going to get an appointment because he worked on the campaign
+
+01:48:42.160 --> 01:48:43.520
+Stop lying
+
+01:48:43.520 --> 01:48:49.440
+Assassin senior executive service has its stop lying. Yeah, yeah, and they cannot be fired
+
+01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:54.480
+And this this started historically with president mckinley who was assassinated
+
+01:48:54.960 --> 01:48:55.600
+And um
+
+01:48:55.600 --> 01:49:01.920
+It was assassinated because somebody that worked on his campaign thought he was going to get an appointment because he worked on the campaign
+
+01:49:02.320 --> 01:49:05.440
+Mckinley didn't give an appointment and so the guy shot him
+
+01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:09.360
+And so after that after set the federal government said we need
+
+01:49:09.920 --> 01:49:14.880
+Protection so if the president and the vice president all get killed at the same time that there's continuity
+
+01:49:14.880 --> 01:49:15.280
+government
+
+01:49:15.280 --> 01:49:22.080
+So we'll make a class of employees that can't the reason why that's strange is because Charles rixie's great great grandfather
+
+01:49:22.160 --> 01:49:24.320
+Was the doctor of president mckinley?
+
+01:49:28.880 --> 01:49:30.880
+That's weird
+
+01:49:32.080 --> 01:49:34.080
+That's super weird
+
+01:49:34.160 --> 01:49:36.640
+Be fired so that they'll give continuity
+
+01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:42.880
+Well, what's happened over time is basically they can do whatever they want they can interpret laws however they want
+
+01:49:43.040 --> 01:49:46.080
+They run the government. They run the government. Congress does not run the government
+
+01:49:46.160 --> 01:49:49.600
+The president does not run the government the senior executive service runs again
+
+01:49:49.600 --> 01:49:52.480
+Yeah, so so trump tried to fire a lot of people and he couldn't
+
+01:49:53.200 --> 01:49:57.840
+Pissed him off. I know I look like beaker from the from the muppets when i'm staring at them like that
+
+01:49:58.240 --> 01:50:00.240
+It takes two years
+
+01:50:00.320 --> 01:50:04.800
+To fire a federal employee of constant dogged fighting in the courts, right?
+
+01:50:05.280 --> 01:50:11.440
+So so he he came up with schedule f which would reclass all these federal employees as at will put employees
+
+01:50:11.520 --> 01:50:14.960
+which anybody who works is probably an at will employee and um
+
+01:50:15.680 --> 01:50:17.680
+It was one of his last acts
+
+01:50:17.680 --> 01:50:20.320
+And the press in dc went wild about it
+
+01:50:20.320 --> 01:50:25.200
+How it was gonna and it took him months and months and months to fight off and get it through the court
+
+01:50:25.360 --> 01:50:28.320
+Get it through the courts and then it was finally gonna prove
+
+01:50:28.320 --> 01:50:34.240
+It was the first just before the election right and then he lost and then it was the first thing that Biden got rid of soon as he was
+
+01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:42.560
+Lidgis robermalone off-screws ended schedule left. Yeah. Yeah, so one of the things we absolutely worst camera man
+
+01:50:43.280 --> 01:50:44.800
+just
+
+01:50:44.800 --> 01:50:51.620
+As far as i'm concerned the top priority right now is we have to make it illegal for the government to deploy
+
+01:50:52.880 --> 01:50:55.280
+psychological operations on civilians
+
+01:50:56.240 --> 01:51:02.560
+Um, here's but another one we've got to do is we have to find some way whether mr
+
+01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:03.680
+Trump is in the office
+
+01:51:03.680 --> 01:51:08.240
+Isn't he going to put himself out of business if he advocates for the government to not be able to do
+
+01:51:08.880 --> 01:51:10.880
+psyops
+
+01:51:10.880 --> 01:51:14.160
+Or mr. Santas or whomever or maybe body units
+
+01:51:14.640 --> 01:51:16.640
+um, but
+
+01:51:17.040 --> 01:51:23.040
+We have got to find a way to break the back of the administrative state and we have got to break the back of this
+
+01:51:23.280 --> 01:51:24.240
+um
+
+01:51:24.240 --> 01:51:30.080
+New censorship industrial complex and I don't know quite how we're going to do it
+
+01:51:30.080 --> 01:51:37.280
+But I know we absolutely have to do it that this this censorship industrial complex is a monster
+
+01:51:38.160 --> 01:51:41.920
+And here's the thing in the technology that's been developed
+
+01:51:42.800 --> 01:51:46.240
+Where you ever notice in you know in marketing?
+
+01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:49.760
+This is really an extension of marketing into warfare
+
+01:51:50.640 --> 01:51:55.760
+Okay, when they sell you hamburgers, they have and soap suds and all those things
+
+01:51:56.160 --> 01:51:58.720
+They're really sophisticated about how they do it
+
+01:51:59.360 --> 01:52:04.960
+They know all kinds of subliminal messaging and other technologies color use of color use of sex
+
+01:52:05.440 --> 01:52:14.240
+All kinds of things repetitive repetitive is really important repetitive insertion of key words into advertising and into the press and all kinds of things
+
+01:52:14.960 --> 01:52:17.840
+It's amazing how suggestible you are here's a fun fact
+
+01:52:18.480 --> 01:52:26.720
+25% of people this has been known for decades 25% of people in anyone population is highly resistant to hypnosis
+
+01:52:27.600 --> 01:52:34.880
+Into syops about 25% yay, probably a large fraction of use that you're here are in that 25%
+
+01:52:35.520 --> 01:52:41.520
+Okay, the other 75% are very susceptible. They can be hypnotized
+
+01:52:41.680 --> 01:52:46.000
+They can be influenced to act in whatever way somebody wants to
+
+01:52:46.880 --> 01:52:52.320
+The other day I was on with Neil Oliver as I mentioned we were it's the coronation day when we were talking about this
+
+01:52:52.880 --> 01:52:56.800
+And um in Great Britain they actually have a censorship board just to let you know
+
+01:52:57.120 --> 01:52:59.120
+We'll come here soon enough
+
+01:52:59.200 --> 01:53:03.600
+They have a censorship board and I can tell you Great Britain news is scared silly
+
+01:53:04.080 --> 01:53:08.640
+Of that censorship board. I was told that I could not talk about anything about the vaccines
+
+01:53:09.040 --> 01:53:13.360
+What I went on GB news the other day with Neil Oliver that wasn't the case a year ago
+
+01:53:14.240 --> 01:53:18.880
+Okay, and so we had to kind of talk around it and use euphemisms like JP Sears does
+
+01:53:19.600 --> 01:53:21.600
+um, but uh
+
+01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:25.120
+Nobody said he plugged JP Sears. Why would he plug him?
+
+01:53:25.680 --> 01:53:29.520
+Why not Joe Rogan or somebody else? Why did that guy immediately come to mind?
+
+01:53:31.440 --> 01:53:36.240
+JP Sears is brilliant JP Sears is a brilliant fifth generation warrior
+
+01:53:36.880 --> 01:53:38.560
+Okay comedy
+
+01:53:38.560 --> 01:53:43.520
+And and music and art are incredible fifth generation war tools
+
+01:53:43.600 --> 01:53:48.320
+They're incredible propaganda tools that can be used against you or we can use them against them
+
+01:53:49.120 --> 01:53:53.200
+Okay, and this has long been known what JP does is brilliant
+
+01:53:53.920 --> 01:53:56.880
+In terms of psyops, but I made the point with Neil
+
+01:53:57.920 --> 01:54:00.800
+Because of course in Britain they have the nudge units
+
+01:54:01.520 --> 01:54:05.440
+And they have the 77th brigade which has been deployed on their citizens
+
+01:54:06.320 --> 01:54:11.120
+And in the in in GB news and any of these news stations
+
+01:54:11.760 --> 01:54:16.400
+Um, they are forced to have someone who represents the other side
+
+01:54:17.200 --> 01:54:19.920
+They cannot broadcast unless they have
+
+01:54:20.480 --> 01:54:22.240
+Some semblance
+
+01:54:22.240 --> 01:54:26.880
+Balance where there's somebody that's standing on the other side of an issue advocating for that
+
+01:54:26.880 --> 01:54:32.320
+So the person on the other side was making the case that well in a democracy in the UK
+
+01:54:32.800 --> 01:54:37.600
+Basically they have an election every four years and the people seed their authority
+
+01:54:39.040 --> 01:54:43.120
+To the winning party who is able to act really?
+
+01:54:43.760 --> 01:54:46.080
+In an autocratic fashion for the next four years
+
+01:54:46.640 --> 01:54:53.200
+The people seed their authority to this winning political party that can basically do whatever it wants to do for the next four years
+
+01:54:53.280 --> 01:54:56.960
+And then there's another election. That's the logic that's promoted in the UK
+
+01:54:57.680 --> 01:55:01.680
+Okay, so four-year period no accountability. They can do what they ever they want to do
+
+01:55:02.160 --> 01:55:07.040
+My point is if during that four years, they're deploying modern psyops
+
+01:55:08.240 --> 01:55:16.560
+Psychological warfare technology against the population so that the population is constantly bombarded with corrected information
+
+01:55:16.960 --> 01:55:23.520
+Now it's going to be AI filtered information that controls everything that you see feel think believe
+
+01:55:24.240 --> 01:55:29.200
+Your emotions, okay, that's what's in play right now if you're in so social media
+
+01:55:29.840 --> 01:55:32.480
+You are highly you're in a highly controlled environment
+
+01:55:33.200 --> 01:55:39.600
+And everything that you think and believe and feel is being manipulated actively in real time
+
+01:55:40.400 --> 01:55:47.040
+And if that's pretty truthful, that was pretty good actually saying that that's what social media does to you and if you interact with social media
+
+01:55:47.040 --> 01:55:49.040
+That's where you are. That's pretty good
+
+01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:52.800
+But he's not telling you that he's part of it
+
+01:55:53.120 --> 01:55:56.720
+The government is allowed to do that the concept of sovereignty
+
+01:55:57.360 --> 01:55:59.360
+Of personal agency
+
+01:55:59.360 --> 01:56:07.520
+That you have as an independent being the ability to make an objective decision about right and wrong or what you want in your government
+
+01:56:07.520 --> 01:56:11.440
+The policies that you want you no longer have that sovereignty
+
+01:56:12.880 --> 01:56:17.200
+Everything that you are thinking is being manipulated using the most
+
+01:56:19.040 --> 01:56:20.640
+cutting edge
+
+01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:26.240
+Psychological manipulation that's 75% that's susceptible and that's you know when we talk about
+
+01:56:27.200 --> 01:56:32.880
+The younger generation they are just being bombarded with this messaging all the time and and they have a hard time filtering
+
+01:56:33.120 --> 01:56:36.080
+Every social media channel is basically
+
+01:56:36.800 --> 01:56:45.040
+An intelligence operation and and combine that with um the garm agreement, which I think has to be mentioned with this which um is the
+
+01:56:45.040 --> 01:56:47.040
+um
+
+01:56:47.040 --> 01:56:49.040
+An agreement. Let's get an example
+
+01:56:50.080 --> 01:56:52.080
+Conservative media
+
+01:56:52.080 --> 01:56:58.480
+Now you would think that Mercedes Benz and Porsche would want to sell cars to conservatives
+
+01:56:59.280 --> 01:57:00.240
+Okay
+
+01:57:00.240 --> 01:57:04.080
+You would think that Steve Bannon would be inundated
+
+01:57:04.640 --> 01:57:12.400
+With advertisements and the blaze and why do you think Steve Bannon has to advertise t-shirts hats and water and pillows and pillows
+
+01:57:12.720 --> 01:57:15.360
+Okay, it's not because he doesn't want to sell Mercedes Benz
+
+01:57:15.920 --> 01:57:18.880
+Okay, he is Mercedes Benz is literally
+
+01:57:19.520 --> 01:57:22.800
+prohibited from advertising on conservative sites
+
+01:57:23.360 --> 01:57:25.360
+Okay, it started with more
+
+01:57:25.920 --> 01:57:33.280
+You got it. You got to understand it started with an agreement that um advertisers through google and this huge consortium of
+
+01:57:34.160 --> 01:57:37.760
+Advertising she has a microphone why is she straining her voice like that?
+
+01:57:38.240 --> 01:57:42.480
+Companies all agreed. They wouldn't allow advertising on porn sites
+
+01:57:42.960 --> 01:57:48.400
+And then it was violence and then it moved into election misinformation and now it's
+
+01:57:49.040 --> 01:57:58.080
+Information and now it's basically anything conservative anything conservative and and um they cannot literally if you advertise on a bad site
+
+01:57:58.480 --> 01:58:01.680
+You can no longer allow to use ad sense and these um
+
+01:58:02.240 --> 01:58:09.680
+Algorithmic advertisers and if you are an executive at a major us corporation and you donate to conservative causes
+
+01:58:10.080 --> 01:58:17.120
+That's tracked that's holding think about how all over the place this is think about how wacky of a presentation this is is there
+
+01:58:17.840 --> 01:58:21.680
+Was there a specific goal in mind? Did they have a specific goal in mind?
+
+01:58:22.560 --> 01:58:27.360
+Did they get up on this screen or this stage with the idea of getting through
+
+01:58:28.160 --> 01:58:30.160
+A few points and then when they were done
+
+01:58:30.800 --> 01:58:36.720
+They would be confident that the people in this room are in this this crowd rather understood stuff
+
+01:58:40.720 --> 01:58:42.720
+Or is this like an appearance for money
+
+01:58:43.760 --> 01:58:48.320
+an appearance for donations an appearance for sub stack followers an appearance for
+
+01:58:48.960 --> 01:58:51.280
+People to believe that these guys are real
+
+01:58:54.800 --> 01:58:57.280
+If you were trying to save the world it wouldn't sound like this
+
+01:58:58.080 --> 01:59:01.520
+I'm telling you if you were trying to save the world it wouldn't sound like this
+
+01:59:04.320 --> 01:59:06.800
+No plans of action just telling you the way it is
+
+01:59:08.080 --> 01:59:10.080
+No ways out just telling you the way it is
+
+01:59:11.200 --> 01:59:13.200
+No solutions
+
+01:59:13.200 --> 01:59:14.880
+No alternatives
+
+01:59:14.880 --> 01:59:16.720
+No answers
+
+01:59:16.720 --> 01:59:22.960
+Just telling you how it is. We'll disclose. Okay, and then your esg scores go down when we talk about
+
+01:59:22.960 --> 01:59:27.920
+When your esg score goes down you cannot get capital
+
+01:59:28.640 --> 01:59:31.760
+You pay higher rates you're less able to get capital
+
+01:59:31.840 --> 01:59:35.600
+So this this is integrated at a level if you're not aware of this
+
+01:59:35.920 --> 01:59:42.320
+This has been being built for decades and clearly this is what makes us anti government is talking about this stuff
+
+01:59:42.960 --> 01:59:47.120
+Yeah, this is why i'm i'm defined as anti government by the anti-deformation league
+
+01:59:47.600 --> 01:59:49.600
+Which seems to be mostly about defaming
+
+01:59:49.840 --> 01:59:57.760
+Um, but that's that is what we're up against is an ecosystem in which all advertising dollars
+
+01:59:58.000 --> 02:00:03.120
+Are strategically controlled through a blanket agreement that's run through google
+
+02:00:03.200 --> 02:00:06.400
+Which controls the vast bulk of advertising right now
+
+02:00:06.800 --> 02:00:14.480
+And when you see that all the media including fox news, which is now the second largest owner of fox news is
+
+02:00:15.280 --> 02:00:19.200
+Blackrock. Okay, it's no surprise that tuckers out
+
+02:00:20.240 --> 02:00:27.200
+Okay, and um, so that's that's the ecosystem we're dealing with right now is the government feels that it is
+
+02:00:27.680 --> 02:00:33.600
+Morally obligated in order to protect democracy to bypass the first amendment
+
+02:00:34.640 --> 02:00:37.760
+And there is nothing that anyone will do about it
+
+02:00:38.320 --> 02:00:40.960
+I mean, I keep saying what is the remedy?
+
+02:00:41.600 --> 02:00:47.360
+When from the lowest level government official, you know from your school boards all the way up to the potus
+
+02:00:48.320 --> 02:00:50.960
+There is tacit agreement that we absolutely must
+
+02:00:52.320 --> 02:00:55.440
+Bypass the first amendment. We must control speech
+
+02:00:56.000 --> 02:01:01.840
+And a free pass it's not just free speech. It's a free press. Okay. Um, that's that's where we're at
+
+02:01:02.880 --> 02:01:06.640
+And the only remedy that I know of is impeachment
+
+02:01:07.200 --> 02:01:11.680
+And there's no way that we're going to get an impeachment case brought through
+
+02:01:11.680 --> 02:01:16.400
+I mean, we've got all this evidence about hunter biden and all of the corruption and all that that's coming out
+
+02:01:16.640 --> 02:01:18.640
+Do you think there's going to be an impeachment?
+
+02:01:18.640 --> 02:01:19.840
+Hell no
+
+02:01:19.840 --> 02:01:24.320
+Okay, there's there's no way that can happen in dc. There's another point
+
+02:01:24.800 --> 02:01:28.800
+People ask me oh, is there going to be accountability for what's happened over the last three years?
+
+02:01:29.600 --> 02:01:30.960
+um
+
+02:01:30.960 --> 02:01:36.320
+Can you imagine a world in which the united states suddenly says oh you caught me?
+
+02:01:36.720 --> 02:01:43.760
+We actually funded the development of that virus that has exterminated a you know a significant fraction of the world's population
+
+02:01:44.160 --> 02:01:46.160
+And decimated economies
+
+02:01:46.160 --> 02:01:50.720
+Can can you imagine what would happen if they owned up to what they've done?
+
+02:01:50.960 --> 02:01:54.560
+Which the documents from judicial watch and everybody else so many sources now
+
+02:01:55.120 --> 02:01:57.280
+Demonstrate, you know
+
+02:01:57.280 --> 02:02:02.640
+For me one of the shocking things was coming to grips with we not might not be the good guys
+
+02:02:03.520 --> 02:02:05.520
+Okay
+
+02:02:05.760 --> 02:02:10.000
+And can you imagine what would happen it would destroy the united states?
+
+02:02:10.000 --> 02:02:14.000
+It would destroy it politically it would destroy it economic. We're not the only bad guys
+
+02:02:14.080 --> 02:02:18.320
+I mean, that's the truth of it is we have the ccp we have russia. We have the uk
+
+02:02:18.400 --> 02:02:19.360
+I mean
+
+02:02:19.360 --> 02:02:24.080
+governments throughout the world now believe that they need to control the citizenship and
+
+02:02:24.560 --> 02:02:25.760
+basically
+
+02:02:25.760 --> 02:02:27.760
+treat them like an economic unit and
+
+02:02:29.760 --> 02:02:33.280
+So we need to get back to personal sovereignty and and this
+
+02:02:34.240 --> 02:02:35.840
+It's really important
+
+02:02:35.840 --> 02:02:40.880
+And when when we so podcast different podcasts when people are talking about the book
+
+02:02:40.880 --> 02:02:44.080
+They're like, well, what's this part about the better future coming?
+
+02:02:44.560 --> 02:02:50.240
+Right, um, and I insisted that we put that line in because the lies my government told me was such a downer
+
+02:02:50.720 --> 02:02:55.440
+Uh, it was came it came. It was it was developed by sky verse publishing
+
+02:02:55.840 --> 02:03:00.080
+Uh, they thought that was the fantastic name that would make it a huge best seller by the way
+
+02:03:00.080 --> 02:03:04.880
+It's not that much of a best seller, but it's doing okay, but it's not like bobby's book
+
+02:03:05.280 --> 02:03:10.160
+Um, but i'm not bobby kennedy and neither she um, but uh, um
+
+02:03:11.440 --> 02:03:14.240
+I really wanted to end on a positive note, but yes
+
+02:03:14.240 --> 02:03:17.280
+And the positive note was about what can we do about right?
+
+02:03:17.280 --> 02:03:20.720
+And I think the first thing is the first thing we can do about it in our own lives is community
+
+02:03:21.520 --> 02:03:25.360
+It's our families our families. Yeah. Yeah
+
+02:03:25.760 --> 02:03:28.560
+Intentional communities and one of the things you may recall
+
+02:03:29.120 --> 02:03:31.680
+When I when I did this little podcast with this guy
+
+02:03:32.160 --> 02:03:37.360
+Rogan um that kind of did break the internet and caused google to lose its bladder control
+
+02:03:37.920 --> 02:03:39.920
+um, the the
+
+02:03:40.240 --> 02:03:41.760
+I
+
+02:03:41.760 --> 02:03:46.320
+Talked about the theories of this friend of mine from belgium named mattias decimate
+
+02:03:47.280 --> 02:03:50.720
+And I use the term mass formation psychosis now the
+
+02:03:51.280 --> 02:03:57.280
+Psychology committee hit us on that even though that's an old term and so we've dropped the psychosis mass formation
+
+02:03:57.840 --> 02:04:04.560
+But it's basically around the preconditions that enabled this hypnosis or control or thought control of people
+
+02:04:05.600 --> 02:04:09.840
+um, and one of the things that we've observed in this
+
+02:04:10.640 --> 02:04:16.480
+Bizarre world that we've been traveling for the last three years is communities have faith
+
+02:04:17.440 --> 02:04:23.120
+What ever religion have been the most resistant to these psyops?
+
+02:04:23.920 --> 02:04:30.480
+Like for instance, what's the the town up north that has that church that got hammered so bad that we've spoken at Santa Clara
+
+02:04:30.720 --> 02:04:35.360
+Santa Clara. Yeah. I mean, do you know the story of calvary chapel? Yeah, calvary chapel
+
+02:04:36.320 --> 02:04:38.320
+um, they they
+
+02:04:38.320 --> 02:04:44.000
+The stuff that was done. I mean the city council called their
+
+02:04:44.560 --> 02:04:46.320
+leanholder
+
+02:04:46.320 --> 02:04:47.520
+and said
+
+02:04:47.520 --> 02:04:49.520
+They're going to have to default
+
+02:04:50.160 --> 02:04:54.240
+on their loan because they were going to get a six million dollar fine
+
+02:04:55.040 --> 02:05:01.600
+And so and so the the bank defaulted based on that phone call they they pulled back the loan
+
+02:05:02.320 --> 02:05:06.640
+I mean, this is how dirty it is and but what they did was is they hung together as a community
+
+02:05:07.200 --> 02:05:11.440
+And and they reached out to other members of the calvary chapel world
+
+02:05:12.000 --> 02:05:14.800
+Which basically all pulled their money and bought the damn thing
+
+02:05:15.520 --> 02:05:16.400
+um
+
+02:05:16.400 --> 02:05:23.760
+And yeah, yeah, yeah, but amazing story. We when we went and spoke there with Steve Kirsch
+
+02:05:24.320 --> 02:05:29.920
+Uh, we heard people coming up to us talking about how you know older people disabled people
+
+02:05:30.400 --> 02:05:34.400
+That weren't wearing masks that were being dragged out of public spaces
+
+02:05:35.040 --> 02:05:36.320
+In that county
+
+02:05:36.320 --> 02:05:41.120
+Um, because they weren't wearing masks if we now know just I know this is going to shock you
+
+02:05:41.760 --> 02:05:43.760
+Masks don't work
+
+02:05:43.840 --> 02:05:45.040
+Okay
+
+02:05:45.040 --> 02:05:47.440
+The data are in that was a lie
+
+02:05:48.400 --> 02:05:52.560
+Um, and it's hard to figure out why they propagated that lie
+
+02:05:52.960 --> 02:05:59.600
+The only explanation that i've heard and it's actually in the literature by one of the people that was influencing those decisions
+
+02:06:00.480 --> 02:06:04.160
+Is that it really was about demonstration of fealty
+
+02:06:05.360 --> 02:06:07.600
+It was a way to it was not
+
+02:06:08.400 --> 02:06:12.960
+I argue that a lot of this it was not a demonstration of fealty so much of it
+
+02:06:12.960 --> 02:06:16.560
+Whereas it was a demonstration of the belief in the mythology
+
+02:06:19.600 --> 02:06:21.440
+That's what it was
+
+02:06:21.440 --> 02:06:24.160
+It's a question of do you dare not to wear a mask
+
+02:06:24.960 --> 02:06:28.000
+Just like on close encounters of the third kind
+
+02:06:28.880 --> 02:06:32.800
+How did they convince all those people to clear the western half of Wyoming
+
+02:06:33.760 --> 02:06:38.320
+They killed all the animals with a poison and they left them laying in the fields
+
+02:06:39.440 --> 02:06:41.440
+And then they said that there was a chemical leak
+
+02:06:42.240 --> 02:06:46.160
+That a train had wrecked and that everybody had to be evacuated
+
+02:06:47.840 --> 02:06:49.840
+But of course there was no gas
+
+02:06:50.160 --> 02:06:55.600
+Of course those people weren't nobody was in danger. Otherwise, why and how come they weren't dying on the way out?
+
+02:06:55.600 --> 02:06:57.600
+And
+
+02:06:58.720 --> 02:07:03.200
+That's why they ended up taking their masks off and believing that they could go and then you know
+
+02:07:03.200 --> 02:07:07.840
+The whole story goes on in that movie because it's the same thing the masks weren't about
+
+02:07:08.720 --> 02:07:10.720
+showing fealty
+
+02:07:11.920 --> 02:07:18.160
+They forced people to accept the existence of a novel virus that these people still accept the existence of
+
+02:07:18.400 --> 02:07:20.400
+And
+
+02:07:20.400 --> 02:07:26.960
+They're going all the way back to the very beginning of the bamboozlement and they're tasking the wrong questions
+
+02:07:29.280 --> 02:07:31.280
+With the wrong answers
+
+02:07:32.240 --> 02:07:38.160
+Masks don't work. Why don't they work because there wasn't any spread
+
+02:07:38.160 --> 02:07:40.160
+I
+
+02:07:44.720 --> 02:07:50.240
+Policy of the jabs in the military and the absolute unwillingness to allow
+
+02:07:51.520 --> 02:07:53.120
+religious exemptions
+
+02:07:53.120 --> 02:07:58.400
+Was about weeding out the people that weren't going to comply with the things that they are telling them to do
+
+02:07:58.880 --> 02:08:02.480
+It's been a compliance test. Yeah, and another compliance test is
+
+02:08:03.440 --> 02:08:12.000
+We get a lot of science conferences a lot of biodefense conferences invites, you know come to this, you know event in DC blah blah blah
+
+02:08:12.000 --> 02:08:16.880
+You know all this junk mail we get and and you read these invitations and they all and to this day
+
+02:08:16.880 --> 02:08:22.240
+They say you need to prove that you're vaccinated before you can go to this scientific event
+
+02:08:22.640 --> 02:08:25.280
+You know, this is a way it's tribalism
+
+02:08:25.280 --> 02:08:31.520
+It's a way of weeding out people from being able to get the latest data being able to network
+
+02:08:31.920 --> 02:08:35.200
+You know, they are trying to harm and
+
+02:08:36.800 --> 02:08:39.200
+Ostracize. Yes. Yeah. Yeah
+
+02:08:40.400 --> 02:08:45.040
+So, um getting back to stick together the better times ahead
+
+02:08:46.080 --> 02:08:47.440
+um
+
+02:08:47.440 --> 02:08:49.840
+People ask what is an intentional community?
+
+02:08:51.200 --> 02:08:55.440
+Because this is a plan that this is not conspiracy thinking
+
+02:08:56.160 --> 02:08:57.040
+I mean
+
+02:08:57.120 --> 02:09:03.760
+Huxley talked about in my mind what they're laying here is the idea that we should make secret networks of people and ignore everybody else
+
+02:09:04.800 --> 02:09:11.920
+We shouldn't go for unity. We shouldn't try to unite the country under truth. We shouldn't try to expose the lies
+
+02:09:13.280 --> 02:09:17.840
+We should just try to network locally and and huddle down
+
+02:09:20.400 --> 02:09:24.640
+And i'm not sure that this is the right solution again because it accepts the lies
+
+02:09:25.440 --> 02:09:30.800
+Accept all the lies and now organize and do something else separate from them
+
+02:09:32.880 --> 02:09:34.960
+So america is never going to be won again
+
+02:09:37.360 --> 02:09:41.840
+And if we accepted that we were all lied to and we've been lied to for a generation
+
+02:09:42.640 --> 02:09:44.640
+We might be able to become one again
+
+02:09:46.240 --> 02:09:50.720
+If we accepted that actually racism isn't that big of a problem relative to effort
+
+02:09:51.040 --> 02:09:53.040
+I
+
+02:09:53.040 --> 02:09:59.920
+If we accepted that racism isn't that big of a problem with regard to most people's daily lives
+
+02:10:00.560 --> 02:10:02.560
+relative to effort
+
+02:10:02.560 --> 02:10:04.560
+I think we might get somewhere
+
+02:10:06.800 --> 02:10:10.880
+But I don't think we're ever going to go there because that's not where the tv people want us to go
+
+02:10:13.680 --> 02:10:19.760
+They want us to blame everything on the system and everything on climate change and everything on mother nature
+
+02:10:21.120 --> 02:10:25.520
+And nothing on our own effort and our own responsibilities
+
+02:10:26.640 --> 02:10:28.640
+and our own
+
+02:10:29.120 --> 02:10:30.320
+energies
+
+02:10:30.320 --> 02:10:37.040
+What we get out of bed to do doesn't matter because the all the other variables that are out of our control are overwhelming
+
+02:10:37.840 --> 02:10:39.840
+That's what they want you to feel
+
+02:10:40.880 --> 02:10:43.920
+Fifth generation warfare is exactly that in a nutshell
+
+02:10:44.400 --> 02:10:46.400
+And
+
+02:10:46.400 --> 02:10:51.600
+If jpc's is a is a good guy and the other guys are bad guys, and what are you gonna do?
+
+02:10:52.720 --> 02:10:54.720
+You got to eat
+
+02:10:55.200 --> 02:10:57.200
+I said to instagram video
+
+02:10:57.680 --> 02:10:59.680
+You don't stand a chance
+
+02:10:59.680 --> 02:11:01.680
+don't you see
+
+02:11:01.760 --> 02:11:03.760
+That's what they want you to believe
+
+02:11:05.360 --> 02:11:11.120
+So just make a little community and make a little effort to have a little community and don't do anything else
+
+02:11:11.920 --> 02:11:16.400
+Don't organize any efforts to fight against the lies that include
+
+02:11:16.960 --> 02:11:20.240
+What these people are telling you about why masks didn't work
+
+02:11:21.840 --> 02:11:23.840
+And what masks were really all about
+
+02:11:24.800 --> 02:11:28.960
+Wasn't about compliance ladies and gentlemen. It was about accepting the mystery
+
+02:11:31.680 --> 02:11:34.960
+Is was about accepting the scooby-doo of this
+
+02:11:35.920 --> 02:11:41.280
+There's a great video great new world. Yeah of Huxley in the early 70s
+
+02:11:41.520 --> 02:11:44.640
+No, it was 1958 with mike wallace early
+
+02:11:45.920 --> 02:11:52.400
+That's the mike wallace interview. Okay in which he's talking about these things like 25% of the population can't be hypnotized
+
+02:11:52.480 --> 02:11:57.680
+And that's and that the fact that 25% of the population can be readily hypnotized look at this one right here
+
+02:11:59.120 --> 02:12:01.120
+and
+
+02:12:01.200 --> 02:12:04.240
+That that's a good thing because governments need to be able to control people
+
+02:12:04.720 --> 02:12:12.080
+The plans that have been put in place that we have now seen sprung on us have been baked over decades now
+
+02:12:13.040 --> 02:12:16.400
+And there is no way that we're getting get out of this in the next two years
+
+02:12:17.040 --> 02:12:20.160
+As far as i'm concerned what we're fighting for is our children's future
+
+02:12:20.800 --> 02:12:26.000
+Yeah, um and it's and it's whether or not we want our children to live as indentured servants
+
+02:12:26.400 --> 02:12:30.320
+Or do we want them to live in a free world in which they have personal agency?
+
+02:12:30.400 --> 02:12:33.760
+They can make their own decisions make their own mistakes and have to live with them
+
+02:12:34.400 --> 02:12:42.640
+Okay, is that the world or do we want to live in a command economy that is controlled centrally by a group of corporate oligarchs
+
+02:12:43.360 --> 02:12:47.280
+Um out of europe that that is by the way european union
+
+02:12:48.080 --> 02:12:52.560
+Leadership is not elected. Okay. That's the world. They want us to live under
+
+02:12:53.440 --> 02:12:58.080
+When we went to the european parliament just off on that tangent one of the things that was last week last week
+
+02:12:58.320 --> 02:13:04.880
+Last week we testified in the european parliament on the invitation about half a dozen members of the epu were the dissenters many of which
+
+02:13:05.360 --> 02:13:11.120
+Were representing former uh, soviet union states like romania. Okay, those those folks
+
+02:13:11.680 --> 02:13:18.320
+Um have lived under communism. They have lived under marxism. They know what it's about and they believe it's coming back
+
+02:13:18.480 --> 02:13:23.600
+They're personally they're they're pretty far into hell. No, okay, and um
+
+02:13:24.080 --> 02:13:30.400
+They're they see it what's happening. But one of the things we learned is those members of the ep they don't do anything
+
+02:13:30.880 --> 02:13:33.280
+It's even worse than it is here. They don't work
+
+02:13:34.000 --> 02:13:37.120
+It's their their aides do all the voting for them
+
+02:13:37.760 --> 02:13:42.560
+One of the things is happening government all over the world in these various administrative states is during covid
+
+02:13:42.960 --> 02:13:44.960
+They've all been working from home
+
+02:13:45.440 --> 02:13:54.640
+They have to be the fda is a ghostland. They only just brought half the employees back to the fda. You go to the parking lot is empty
+
+02:13:55.520 --> 02:14:01.680
+Okay, the reason why is so rachel will insky was actually not down in atlanta working at the cdc
+
+02:14:01.680 --> 02:14:03.840
+She was up at her home and wherever it was kineticate
+
+02:14:04.320 --> 02:14:09.200
+Where she had that studio that she was giving all those lovely little presentations to all of us
+
+02:14:09.840 --> 02:14:11.840
+Um that we all enjoyed so much
+
+02:14:12.800 --> 02:14:14.800
+But she wasn't actually
+
+02:14:14.800 --> 02:14:19.520
+Administering she wasn't actually working there a lot of the government has had a three-year vacation
+
+02:14:20.080 --> 02:14:27.040
+And the same is true in the european parliament. Yeah, so this this this we're we're sitting in a situation
+
+02:14:27.600 --> 02:14:30.720
+In which some small cluster of individuals
+
+02:14:31.440 --> 02:14:33.440
+That are it's is not
+
+02:14:33.440 --> 02:14:40.480
+Conspiracy that are running largely very large corporations or the representatives of very large corporations are
+
+02:14:41.200 --> 02:14:42.480
+functionally
+
+02:14:42.480 --> 02:14:47.040
+I'm controlling most of the but but but just but I want to change this topic just a bit
+
+02:14:47.520 --> 02:14:50.080
+Okay, getting back to the better future. So right now
+
+02:14:50.880 --> 02:14:54.160
+We have I believe it's 11 million children are being homeschooled
+
+02:14:54.800 --> 02:14:58.000
+It's about it's a really interesting dynamic when she's there
+
+02:14:58.000 --> 02:15:02.240
+Isn't it that's just a very different Malone speaking when she just cuts him off
+
+02:15:02.320 --> 02:15:07.280
+And I want to change this subject a little bit about homeschooling and percent of the population in the united states
+
+02:15:08.080 --> 02:15:12.640
+Okay, this is a big deal our kids were homeschooled. Yeah, but so so homeschooling
+
+02:15:13.040 --> 02:15:20.000
+It's teaching children how to use the internet not allowing them to use it all the time not allowing them to have cell phones at an early age
+
+02:15:20.480 --> 02:15:24.000
+It's getting outdoors. I mean, there's a lot of things we can do
+
+02:15:24.000 --> 02:15:29.440
+We have to form our own communities and we have to kind of live outside of the government because we don't have any choice
+
+02:15:29.680 --> 02:15:36.880
+We have to build communities that can perceive you should behave like what the government would call white nationalists
+
+02:15:36.880 --> 02:15:41.600
+So that way later on you can be classified as a white nationalist in the terrorist
+
+02:15:43.040 --> 02:15:45.040
+And so go to gab
+
+02:15:45.040 --> 02:15:52.400
+And register with your personal information at gab so that we can put you on that list and follow me over on my group on telegram
+
+02:15:53.120 --> 02:15:55.840
+Follow me on that list and then sign up for my sub stack
+
+02:15:56.960 --> 02:16:00.800
+So that when the government decides to go and make a list of white nationalists
+
+02:16:01.680 --> 02:16:03.680
+We know you're on it
+
+02:16:04.640 --> 02:16:08.000
+Disced through the storm that is about to hit us. Yes. Yes
+
+02:16:08.960 --> 02:16:15.760
+And uh, I'm not sure people ask what is an intentional community a monastery is an intentional community and nunnery is an intentional
+
+02:16:16.240 --> 02:16:22.400
+Amish or intentional communities traditional religions of faith their intentional communities. We have we have internet
+
+02:16:23.200 --> 02:16:27.120
+Lots of examples of intentional communities you can form them around
+
+02:16:27.680 --> 02:16:34.560
+Love of wineries whatever the thing is. I mean, there's there's a there's a lot of ways to build intentional communities
+
+02:16:35.120 --> 02:16:37.920
+And to exist within those and protect each other
+
+02:16:38.320 --> 02:16:42.240
+David martin has done a ton of thinking david lives just a few miles from us
+
+02:16:42.960 --> 02:16:46.480
+In virginia david lives just a few miles from us mark
+
+02:16:47.280 --> 02:16:50.640
+David martin lives just a few miles from us mark. Did you know that?
+
+02:16:51.200 --> 02:16:56.960
+About this and about the economics of this we have some if you're going to build intentional communities and think about
+
+02:16:57.120 --> 02:16:59.120
+This it is a hard problem
+
+02:16:59.840 --> 02:17:08.320
+Because we're basically how do you imagine a world how far is rixie ville from where robert melon's ranch is this is all a very small
+
+02:17:08.880 --> 02:17:11.200
+Geographic region of virginia. It's every existed
+
+02:17:12.640 --> 02:17:16.480
+Like for instance, I was down in in mexico city, which is an amazing place
+
+02:17:16.560 --> 02:17:21.280
+It's like l.a. In mexico city of flip flop. I when I grew up mexico city was
+
+02:17:22.880 --> 02:17:23.520
+an
+
+02:17:23.520 --> 02:17:29.680
+Exhole um and l.a. Was where where all the hip and cool people are now all the hip and cool people are done
+
+02:17:30.640 --> 02:17:37.840
+And l.a. Is an armpit camera man. It's an amazing turnaround. So we're down there talking to some folks from latin america
+
+02:17:38.560 --> 02:17:47.440
+And um talking about intentional communities and all the problems that you have to solve in order to build an intentional community because you have to you cannot
+
+02:17:48.160 --> 02:17:50.160
+exist on barter
+
+02:17:50.560 --> 02:17:52.560
+Beyond a certain limit
+
+02:17:53.040 --> 02:18:00.000
+Which the amish recognized, which is why those communities fissure it. What is it 40 40 families? Okay. Um, so
+
+02:18:01.120 --> 02:18:08.080
+You can't exist straight on barter especially in a space of modern technology and now we're going to be going to a digital currency
+
+02:18:08.480 --> 02:18:10.480
+Within a few years. Yeah
+
+02:18:10.480 --> 02:18:17.440
+Which is totally going to tie into the social credit system and their ability to control you just like we saw the pre warning with
+
+02:18:18.000 --> 02:18:20.400
+um, what happened to Canadian truckers
+
+02:18:21.200 --> 02:18:23.200
+When Trudeau locked bank accounts
+
+02:18:23.840 --> 02:18:30.720
+Okay, and basically froze people's access to funds. I have a bunch of people that are up in friends up in toronto. That is
+
+02:18:32.000 --> 02:18:34.000
+They are living in a totalitarian environment
+
+02:18:34.640 --> 02:18:38.000
+That it comes out in all kinds of different ways. They're gone
+
+02:18:38.720 --> 02:18:40.640
+New Zealand is gone
+
+02:18:40.640 --> 02:18:43.200
+Canada was one without firing a shot
+
+02:18:44.080 --> 02:18:49.440
+Through infiltration from world economic forum trained young leaders. That is the honest truth
+
+02:18:50.240 --> 02:18:52.640
+Okay, and that country, you know, I grew up
+
+02:18:53.040 --> 02:19:02.000
+Canadians a you know and and sensible people very sensible people they are gone and they're busy looking for an escape route
+
+02:19:02.320 --> 02:19:06.560
+I mean, this is this is a flip-flop remember where we're all the word the liberal
+
+02:19:07.120 --> 02:19:11.760
+Protesters wanting to move to Canada remember during the war and all that it's all flip-flopped
+
+02:19:11.840 --> 02:19:14.800
+Okay, they now all want to come down here to the land of the free
+
+02:19:15.760 --> 02:19:18.720
+She's like his backup rapper, you know, just it says like
+
+02:19:22.080 --> 02:19:24.080
+Game out
+
+02:19:28.640 --> 02:19:31.840
+Um, because it's gone. New Zealand is gone
+
+02:19:32.480 --> 02:19:35.120
+Apparently, Australia had a major election
+
+02:19:35.760 --> 02:19:42.800
+Turnover because people were so pissed off about the egregious policies that were deployed there about COVID over the last three years
+
+02:19:43.760 --> 02:19:47.680
+But what we're in a situation in which we're going to have to somehow
+
+02:19:48.480 --> 02:19:53.200
+Find some way to tunnel through the next three years of sex. I'm sorry next few years
+
+02:19:53.760 --> 02:19:58.160
+Protect our children protect our own liberties our own ability to exist
+
+02:19:58.880 --> 02:20:02.800
+And there are some fundamental problems and one of them is tokens
+
+02:20:03.920 --> 02:20:06.160
+I'm not here to pitch bitcoin
+
+02:20:06.160 --> 02:20:08.720
+But bitcoin is in in cyber currency
+
+02:20:09.360 --> 02:20:16.000
+You know for those of you that are probably a lot of you folks are familiar with the cyber currency world
+
+02:20:16.960 --> 02:20:21.280
+But for me, it's been a learning experience over the last three years to get immersed in that
+
+02:20:22.080 --> 02:20:28.640
+Um, which we don't own any by the way. Yeah, there's there's two where we're precious smells people. Um, but there's two
+
+02:20:29.680 --> 02:20:32.880
+There's there's kind of like two main branches here
+
+02:20:33.600 --> 02:20:35.760
+One is decentralized cyber currency
+
+02:20:36.560 --> 02:20:38.560
+and one is centralized
+
+02:20:38.720 --> 02:20:45.200
+Centralized is what they're going to enforce on us. It's absolutely in the works. They're testing it right now through the Fed
+
+02:20:45.840 --> 02:20:48.400
+Um, the bank of international settlements wants it
+
+02:20:49.200 --> 02:20:54.960
+And centralized digital currency means that they can trend they can track every single transaction you do
+
+02:20:55.760 --> 02:20:57.760
+So no more of this
+
+02:20:57.840 --> 02:21:02.480
+Casual farm labor or get the guy down the street to put up your drywall or whatever
+
+02:21:03.120 --> 02:21:07.600
+No more, you know every single thing that you buy that pizza box
+
+02:21:08.160 --> 02:21:11.280
+Is going to be able to be identified with a qr code. Hey ron
+
+02:21:11.600 --> 02:21:16.400
+We've got just a minute left. We actually out. So do you have any conclusions before we have rob?
+
+02:21:16.800 --> 02:21:21.120
+She called him rob. Well, I'm just saying I've seen Lynn over here. Yeah, she's waving at us
+
+02:21:22.560 --> 02:21:25.200
+So so conclusions number one. Thanks
+
+02:21:26.240 --> 02:21:28.240
+number two sport the unity project
+
+02:21:29.120 --> 02:21:30.880
+um
+
+02:21:30.880 --> 02:21:33.120
+The key three key words
+
+02:21:33.760 --> 02:21:35.760
+Okay, keep these words in your heart
+
+02:21:36.480 --> 02:21:38.000
+Please
+
+02:21:38.000 --> 02:21:40.000
+integrity
+
+02:21:40.000 --> 02:21:41.360
+Dignity
+
+02:21:41.360 --> 02:21:43.040
+and community
+
+02:21:43.040 --> 02:21:45.040
+That's what we've lost
+
+02:21:45.040 --> 02:21:49.600
+And that's what we've got to strive for we have to commit ourselves to integrity
+
+02:21:50.240 --> 02:21:52.640
+Um, anybody here know who ed doubt is
+
+02:21:53.600 --> 02:21:55.040
+Okay
+
+02:21:55.040 --> 02:21:58.640
+I kind of brought ed doubt onto the stage. I met him in Maui
+
+02:21:59.360 --> 02:22:03.840
+A couple of years ago and he presented to me this document that he had come up with
+
+02:22:04.320 --> 02:22:06.320
+Together with a guy named tom that is
+
+02:22:06.960 --> 02:22:09.280
+Basically the building inspector for all of Maui
+
+02:22:10.080 --> 02:22:13.280
+And they came up with this document. They presented it to Jill and I on my birthday
+
+02:22:13.840 --> 02:22:17.760
+And they said this is the Malone doctrine and we're like, why did you call it the Malone doctrine?
+
+02:22:18.880 --> 02:22:24.720
+And they they said well, we've listened to everything you've ever said and wrote and i'm just like oh, i'm so sorry
+
+02:22:25.120 --> 02:22:29.440
+And this is what's in between the lines of everything that you've written
+
+02:22:30.400 --> 02:22:35.760
+And what it's all about is integrity. You can find it on our website for meloninstitute.org
+
+02:22:36.480 --> 02:22:42.000
+And it's about rebuilding integrity and a set of rules for organizations with integrity
+
+02:22:42.640 --> 02:22:48.400
+And basically what ed posits is a world in which we build these intentional communities
+
+02:22:49.120 --> 02:22:53.600
+And we only transact with others other corporations, etc
+
+02:22:54.000 --> 02:22:56.560
+That make a fundamental commitment to integrity
+
+02:22:57.360 --> 02:23:00.000
+And that includes things like data transparency
+
+02:23:00.560 --> 02:23:03.200
+all kinds of things having to do with openness
+
+02:23:04.240 --> 02:23:06.800
+and transparency in everything that you're doing
+
+02:23:07.840 --> 02:23:09.120
+um, and
+
+02:23:09.120 --> 02:23:12.640
+I'm with ed. I think that is one of the key things
+
+02:23:13.600 --> 02:23:15.600
+the dignity part comes um
+
+02:23:16.560 --> 02:23:17.680
+from a
+
+02:23:17.680 --> 02:23:24.000
+Time that we spent with what was his name man? Yeah, uh, the uh, the guy who is the
+
+02:23:24.320 --> 02:23:25.280
+um
+
+02:23:25.280 --> 02:23:27.120
+wrote the, uh
+
+02:23:27.120 --> 02:23:29.680
+biblic the, um history of
+
+02:23:30.480 --> 02:23:32.480
+the cardinal, um
+
+02:23:32.480 --> 02:23:37.120
+The cardinal turksen, you don't mean for him. No, not cardinal. No, that's arch the archbishop
+
+02:23:37.680 --> 02:23:38.560
+Jugano
+
+02:23:38.560 --> 02:23:39.680
+He wrote
+
+02:23:39.680 --> 02:23:41.440
+Jugano's biography
+
+02:23:41.440 --> 02:23:41.920
+Right
+
+02:23:41.920 --> 02:23:47.600
+And he makes the point that that one of the funnel of precepts of the church is respect for human dignity
+
+02:23:48.320 --> 02:23:51.840
+Traditionally the catholic church, you know, catholic church today is a different thing
+
+02:23:52.400 --> 02:23:54.400
+but, um, so I argue
+
+02:23:55.760 --> 02:23:57.200
+integrity
+
+02:23:57.200 --> 02:23:59.200
+Respect for human dignity
+
+02:23:59.520 --> 02:24:01.840
+Meaning, I don't care if you collect garbage
+
+02:24:02.480 --> 02:24:06.640
+Or you're the president of the united states you need to be treated with dignity and respect
+
+02:24:07.600 --> 02:24:11.600
+Um, and community is that comes from the tis decimals teaching
+
+02:24:12.480 --> 02:24:18.640
+But community is the thing that broke down that enabled all of this to happen that enabled the mass
+
+02:24:18.800 --> 02:24:24.800
+Psychosis to happen that enabled this hypnosis that it enabled the syops deployed
+
+02:24:25.520 --> 02:24:29.520
+And that gets to the point of communities of faith are highly resistant to this
+
+02:24:30.160 --> 02:24:36.240
+Community is the way we get through this we have to form community. We have to embed our children in community
+
+02:24:36.800 --> 02:24:43.200
+And have strong relationships and we're done and we're they're covering and and so with that thanks for letting me ramble
+
+02:24:43.200 --> 02:24:45.200
+I hope that was helpful
+
+02:24:49.360 --> 02:24:51.360
+I
+
+02:24:52.800 --> 02:24:55.040
+Ladies and gentlemen, they have changed how we think
+
+02:24:56.400 --> 02:25:01.600
+They did it over several years about in several decades about pandemic potential
+
+02:25:02.880 --> 02:25:10.240
+In order with this plan in mind to swap us permanently from having sovereignty over ourselves and our children
+
+02:25:11.440 --> 02:25:13.440
+To needing permission for everything
+
+02:25:14.480 --> 02:25:16.480
+This was their plan already for a decade
+
+02:25:17.120 --> 02:25:19.920
+I'm 99.9 percent sure
+
+02:25:21.280 --> 02:25:26.480
+These people knew that they had to change our mind about how a respiratory disease could be novel
+
+02:25:27.120 --> 02:25:31.760
+They knew they had to lie about all cause mortality and exaggerate numbers from zero
+
+02:25:32.800 --> 02:25:35.920
+They knew they had to lie about our response to an immune
+
+02:25:36.800 --> 02:25:40.240
+art to a respiratory disease by emphasizing antibodies
+
+02:25:41.280 --> 02:25:45.120
+And they knew they were doing that because they were going to mislead us about vaccination
+
+02:25:46.000 --> 02:25:48.000
+That's what this list means
+
+02:25:49.120 --> 02:25:53.760
+This four-step plan to make sure that you understood as antibodies as primal
+
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+and vaccines as the source
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+And once you understood that and that we didn't know anything about this novel virus
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+They could institute protocols
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+And change the way we behaved with one another throughout society
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+for more than three years running
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+And no one is still questioning the basis for which all of these changes were made
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+No one is questioning the biology upon base based upon which
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+These fundamental ideals were changed
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+And that's what gigo and biological is all about we're about telling the truth about this graph
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+telling the truth about why
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+pneumonia became a killer that it never was in previous years why flu disappeared
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+And why a PCR test
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+Without specificity could be used to convert
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+all cause mortality into a new novel
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+cause of death
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+And then by instructing people to respond to that
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+Identifiable new cause of death with stupid protocols you could actually increase
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+the all cause mortality
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+In certain periods where you you you applied these protocols
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+Now if you want to go so far as to say that something had to be used to do it
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+Then there are a number of known technologies that are central to our
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+Understanding and central to our methodologies used to manipulate and study RNA viruses and that is infectious clones
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+And so without a doubt if there was a way for RNA
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+to reach
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+the far corners of the earth
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+high fidelity copies
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+The way it happened is with an infectious clone
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+And why would they have done it?
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+02:27:45.600 --> 02:27:48.800
+Because of the plan I said on the last slide because they have a plan
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+To make sure that we surrender totally our individual sovereignty and enforce a global fundamental inversion from basic human rights to basic granted permissions
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+Because this is the last time there are going to be this many people on the planet
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+02:28:02.880 --> 02:28:09.680
+Please visit me at GigaOMbiological.com or GigaOMbiological or sorry GigaOM.bio
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+02:28:10.800 --> 02:28:12.960
+GigaOM.bio is just really a
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+It's a little it's a little soapbox, which is basically a twitter substitute, but you can speak to me. I can speak to you
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+Um, I hope this was useful. I hope it was fun my longer than I wanted to. I hope it was a good date night
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+for mark and Cheryl
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+And I hope everybody sleeps well tonight. Transfection is immunization and any
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+intramuscular ingestion of combination of substances to augment the immune system is a dumb idea as well
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+They are trying to eliminate the control groups of stopped all transfections and humans
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+Thank you very much for joining me. This has been GigaOMbiological
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+So
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+So
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+British, Italian, Japanese television.
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+People everywhere are starting to listen to him.
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+It's embarrassing.
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+Where does this one come in?
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+What better way for a swimmer to disappear?
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+Uncle Stewart, why did you do it?
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+I bet you kids are starving.
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+Zoinks, that's for me.
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+Hey, what's this?
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+Scooby Booze was here.
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+The whole turkey?
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+Gone?
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+Scooby, here we go!
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+Are we to understand that you are in the city of the ages?
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+Good evening ladies and gentlemen and welcome.
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+Oh wow, that came out wrong.
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+Good evening ladies and gentlemen.
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+Welcome to Giga On Biological.
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+This is a high-resistance low-noise information brief brought to you by a biologist.
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+It is the 30th of September, 2023.
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+You don't understand Mr. Brown.
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+We are still fighting this sculpted spectrum of debate.
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+We are still fighting this limited spectrum of debate because it is not a matter of what is true,
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+but it is perceived to be true that matters.
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+And they are misleading our young right now and we need to fight for this now before it's too late.
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+I think you can see the bricks at the back of the theater.
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+The question now is how can we get our family and friends to see those bricks?
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+It is really the question.
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+I keep thinking out of my audio here.
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+I am not going to be sure how to avoid that.
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+It is on my phone.
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+We are working so well.
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+What is happening there?
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+I don't know what.
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+Maybe my voice suddenly cleared up.
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+Wouldn't that be nuts?
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+We are definitely somewhere in a science fiction movie that sure feels like it to me.
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+Good evening ladies and gentlemen.
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+This is Kigal and Biological Eye Resistance Low Noise Information Brief.
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+Brought to you by a biologist.
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+It is the 30th of September, 2023.
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+And we are still trying to figure out the easiest way to throw people an intellectual light buoy so that they can start to tread water,
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+start to get their head above water.
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+Thanks to the people that are scrolling above my head there, we are able to do some of this work.
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+And we are able to do this work through almost a year and a half with no other support at all.
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+And so that is quite a list of comradery, quite a list of contributors, producers.
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+It has been a long, long road.
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+But we are here now.
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+And I am very, very, very, very happy to be here with you tonight.
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+Still discussing the Scooby-Doo.
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+Although I think now the goal is to try and add a little more depth and breadth to the discussion with regard to what is really going on.
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+Because of course we know I have said it many times, other people have said it many times, that it is about the data.
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+But it is a little bit more than that.
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+And I think you are all very well aware that it is a little more than that.
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+These people have changed our minds.
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+They have changed us how we think.
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+And we have been characterizing this as the Scooby-Doo.
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+And in so doing, we are trying to find a way to bring people to understand, am I talking to the wrong camera?
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+We are trying to find people, trying to find a way to get people to understand what has been done to us.
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+It is really bad guys with a complex plan so that even if you figured it out, you would actually still be trapped.
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+I think people have been co-opted into it.
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+And one of the easiest ways to see through the fog is to listen for the voices that are actually saying that transfection is not immunization.
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+Even harder to hear are voices that are saying that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
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+But I do think that there are going to be more and more people saying that as we move into the future.
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+And so this has been the people map I've been playing with for quite some time.
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+If you just highlight the people who have recently said that the whole vaccine schedule might be worth questioning.
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+It's a crazy number of people that come up including actually nurse Erin because she started an anti-vax group in Florida before the pandemic even started her.
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+Did she start two of them?
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+Peter McCullough has come out very vocally about this.
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+Of course you know that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s vaccine stance is that he wants them tested against the placebo so it's not exactly against the schedule.
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+Of course if he used to talk frankly about it I think he'd probably be very much against it but it's the lawyer that you hear talking all the time.
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+Steve Kirsch has been parading around data from Amish communities and so it's not that nobody's questioning this stuff.
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+It's just that they have an interesting stance on the faith.
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+And that faith is that there was a novel virus that we had to do something that the mRNA might have helped a lot of people and this could come again because you know gain of function viruses are real.
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+And it's easy to come out against the childhood schedule in a not so vocal or kind of conservative kook sort of way.
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+If you don't question the faith we can still keep them amplified and so I'm still quite skeptical and I need, we need...
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+So tonight I'm just going to prep this by saying that I think the thing that Mark Koolack has brought to, there he is, has brought to the scene and really brought in the last, I don't know how many months it's been now,
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+We've always been interested in we, I say, in the general we and I've only joined that general we in the last two years.
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+We've always been interested in the legal space surrounding the vaccination schedule and vaccines and the legal risk allocation of vaccines onto the taxpayer.
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+We've been talking recently about how that may set up a conflict of interest for the lawyers that use that system to never challenge it as a violation of our Seventh Amendment and regular courts.
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+And so that's where we were kind of last time and we still want to explore and we hinted at exploring this thing that Mark had found which is the antibody patent paradox which in broad terms I want to leave to Mark but tonight again we have a special guest regular guy he doesn't have Sam the Eagle anymore but that's okay we still have the same fellow.
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+Welcome regular guy welcome Mark if you could just give us a broad introduction to the antibody patent paradox you know as broad as you can without you know and then we'll kick it over to regular guy and he'll open up about what what makes it interesting with regard to patent pools
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+and then I think we'll have to have to cut it short because we'll already have talked for four hours go ahead Mark good to see you my friend.
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+Oh you're mute.
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+Can you hear me okay.
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+I can hear you.
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+First of all this is a new hat I'm wearing.
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+Oh wow it says oh that's sweet you satanic live that is awesome.
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+Yes if they from a show fan just received it from the last week hand made for the old school sewing machine.
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+You know who you are who you sent this in I'll just say it's from Jay not John but another fan first initial Jay and so I'm donning it tonight so cool thank you thank you.
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+So I'm not a patent expert not really a lawyer okay.
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+The way that I come to the conclusion or the way I got I am guided when I do research is to what's important is connections and correlations.
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+For example if there are some people who are highly visible highly successful you know lots of connections to critical companies that are involved.
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+And then they seem to have multiple associations with other people or particular legal disputes or some technology.
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+The more links you see the more it will I allow that to guide me to something that's important.
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+So I've always thought the whole patent law was this kind of bizarre I'm sure it's loaded with problems.
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+And it was in fact your people map Jay and and us asking the question okay so why why Brett Weinstein why is Brett Weinstein in the position that he's in.
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+And that always leads to well you know maybe they were had some phenomenal achievement throughout their career.
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+You go to the Wikipedia page you go okay father's not there etc and then you start digging and then we realized that his father had a very influential role first patent attorney hired United States Department of Justice antitrust division.
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+1962 pointed by John of Kennedy.
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+By my guests uncle to a top role I would be I would be I would be so eager to say I cut them off right.
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+Anyways what this led to was digging in through the history of Brett Weinstein's father also had something to do with why Eric Weinstein got to where he is.
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+And you go through the cases and then one thing leads to next and you go okay so there's this.
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+This center core company which was a one of the first companies into monoclonal antibodies.
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+And how it all connects to a very large white paper that's heavily has been heavily promoted before we even knew about it and is now being cited by the United States Supreme Court.
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+So it's the connections and the evidence out there that basically I did we just listened to it and it says this is really blank important and that's it.
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+And then from there it's like okay we need to understand why we need to find some experts to help us figure this out.
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+So we know things that are important before we even understand why we allow that to guide us.
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+And then one thing leads to next and then you just find a wealth of other connections and people connected to it.
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+But in the long the antibody patents if you will started before the technology even existed to describe them in almost any way whatsoever.
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+So they were very, very loosely defined patents that were almost based more on function before they could describe them.
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+So clearly certainly before they could have Chris use x ray crystallography and make a little models of them.
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+Much was unknown about the immune system then much is still unknown about the immune system now matter of fact.
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+So as technology has advanced to model and to understand these things.
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+The ability to now create patents with more specificity is there.
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+And as the patents get more specific more and more patent issues start coming up and and complaints and what has been discovered.
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+And this is my interpretation of it is that the it's been realized that there is there's almost no.
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+We used to think of the world as like a series of antibodies and they have different functions and as it's turned out there's almost a galactic range of different antibodies.
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+Which can be unique to the the the foreign contaminants or molecule of the body's dealing with it can be unique to someone's own DNA.
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+It can be unique to that we don't know there's so many and there's different structures which can do the same thing.
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+And then sometimes the same structures do different things in different people.
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+How do you make patents for this and even more so.
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+How do you.
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+You don't want everyone to know this because this breaks down every rule about virology which has been taught.
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+Over the last time 50 plus years.
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+So it exposes a lot of fraudulent thinking in the process also exposes potentially as you mentioned earlier Jay.
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+The need to have a big data agenda over the next generation perhaps to to collect more data and to maybe reverse engineer and understand these things in great detail so.
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+With you would think that with more specificity the patents would get easier but in fact with more specificity the patents have gotten more confusing.
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+Because we've learned more and if of all the people and I was actually so pleased to hear this in a way because it's confirmation.
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+Someone who did use the word although it wasn't specifically about antibodies but it was about the.
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+How to say.
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+Vaccine efficacy if you will was Malone and he actually used the word paradox and a.
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+2021 video I think with Paul Catrell so this is issues known of course it would be known because.
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+I believe Malone was on that red wine scene show because Malone is deeply familiar with this particular topic.
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+But that's the story in a nutshell we know it's important because our connections have led us there.
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+And unfortunately we have some people who've been reaching out to you more so than me in particular on this topic to help us out and that's where.
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+Think the Lord Sam Eagle has come into the picture or just regular guy if you will.
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+How is that for a start J.
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+That's pretty good let me spin it back for everybody from a little bit to go over to the next step.
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+There's a variety of reasons to think that as we move forward with our understanding of biotechnology.
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+That it has become ever clear.
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+That certain patents or let's say whole groups or categories of patents were based on science that has become obsolete.
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+And the question becomes how does that really.
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+How does reality in law or how does reality in patent space catch up with reality in academia or reality in the hospital or reality in the laboratory.
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+And in the case of antibodies it seems that the way that antibody patents were granted before a certain time I don't know in the late 2015's 20's.
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+There was a certain level of requirement that certain requirements that included I guess the you're supposed to be able to do whatever it is that's described in the patent.
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+If it says your you know it's chocolate cake antibody then you should be able to read the patent and make chocolate cake antibody at your laboratory.
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+And the question became how detailed were those explanations how specific was the target how specific was the result and as the biology became more high fidelity we found that this was wholly inadequate to describe what was happening.
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+And this has resulted in of course potentially a huge problem because patents are some of the ways that value is stored in in big corporate organizations and and we have discovered ways through talking with other people of how these intellectual constructs
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+which are vulnerable to the cutting edge science and are vulnerable in a real value sense because if they are tested and in a court of law someone is able to show that what they're based on doesn't specify enough of what is being made or what is being claimed
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+then that patent will essentially be worthless and so the whole point of a patent being value is is your ability to monopolize that space based on your owning the patent and so if it's never tested or you for example have other players in the market with patents similar to yours
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+and you all agree not to test each other's patents but help one another to enforce that no one else can get into that space that's one of the ways that these could be called them antiquated patents are used or extended in their life lifespan.
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+So another way they can be extended in their life span or perhaps buoyed in their potential value is if they can be treated as a pool.
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+So a regular guy welcome to the show thanks for joining us you wanted to come here and kind of clarify the idea of a patent pool and how in other other places in our society and in our culture in our economy.
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+Patent pools have been used to spread technology through a sector or through a space you want to give us a one two three are you there.
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+This is a regular guy check one yeah you're there thank you okay all right yeah so I try to pick up where JC left off I think it's helpful for me to back up a little bit and to kind of think fundamentally more
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+fundamentally about what patents are I'm not an expert in patent law but I'm aware that patents are referenced in the Constitution and they have a long intellectual history that predates the founding of the
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+of America and probably predates the establishment of the English colonies in America.
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+And what patents were partly intended to do is to avoid the problems we had with Greek fire at some point we forgot how to make Greek fire this ancient technology so knowledge was being lost and the idea was that
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+it was you know wouldn't it be a shame if every great invention were kept as a trade secret and nobody felt nobody felt free to tell the world that they had discovered.
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+And so we long story short there's this social contract that we allegedly entered into around like the 1500s or something in England where we said okay if you disclose your technology to the world
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+we'll give you a limited monopoly limited property right in it okay we're just going to now this is where the idea of intellectual property kind of comes you know has its origins because it's kind of a kooky idea how can you own an idea.
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+Well the short answer to that is the government will force your ownership rights.
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+The government will punish anyone that you know crosses your infringes on your property rights and so the government will just invent this concept called intellectual property and the government will enforce it.
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+And so the government created these patents and they said okay have at it for I think that's 15 years it's a limited time it's not forever but for certain like the time you get a monopoly.
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+You have an exclusive right to that idea to the use of that idea so you can an exclusive right is really just about telling it's the same idea is telling somebody to get out.
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+You're saying get off my stop stop copying my invention stop using my idea and the government will come and enforce that for you.
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+So there's that's supposed to be the the social contract there's supposed to be a disclosure and we're supposed to be able to learn from it and then you know after a period of time has passed 15 years or whatever we can all make generic copies of whatever it is that you invent it you only have 15 years to
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+make money off of it.
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+Now the way that I came to understand patents again not being an expert or even qualified to be an expert in patent law was more from an antitrust perspective which sounds really boring but antitrust for me is a really fascinating subject because
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+the antitrust it's almost something cultural in us that we don't like big monopolies you know we seem to all intuitively understand that Comcast sucks right.
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+Only if you know we only had one cell phone provider we all just we know it would suck right I mean we just know that.
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+And and that's been ingrained in our our conscience since at least the 1890s when we passed the Sherman antitrust act.
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+And that's just how we acted actually for a long time for the next 80 years or so we acted like you know if you were you were big if you were monopoly well that was bad we would break you up.
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+So Alcoa aluminum break him up AT&T break him up.
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+But something happened in the 70s and in the 80s there was a an intellectual hijacking took place driven by Milton Friedman and some people who were connected to him to cope with this problem they saw which was that companies weren't being allowed to become big enough.
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+They thought hey why punish success maybe some companies are just you know maybe they should just be allowed to be big maybe there's and and I think there were probably some some.
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+There's some corrupt ideas behind that movement but anyway this this way of thinking came to infect the way that the whole world well I shouldn't say the whole world but certainly the United States court systems and justice systems.
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+Came to understand the problem so that now they no longer reflexively think that monopolies are bad or that giant companies are bad.
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+You're supposed to be able to go and identify some harm to the consumer yada yada.
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+And then you know as an antitrust lawyer nowadays your job is to find some excuse to accuse someone of violating antitrust law and it's very hard to do.
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+The governments in the courts and made it very hard to accuse anyone to violating an antitrust law.
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+But antitrust lawyers are always looking for ways to do it so it's like this uphill battle they're always fighting some some respects.
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+And then to see patents being abused let's say within patent law there's a term called patent misuse and that's a big no no.
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+Okay the rule with patents is that you can do whatever you want as long as it doesn't constitute patent misuse.
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+And then there's like a bucket of things the constitute patent misuse.
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+Well antitrust lawyers see all these things going on in patent law that there would be illegal in an antitrust context even in our permissive you know allowing big corporate even in our current permissive environment where we allow big corporations to do that.
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+And so if you look at the literature on this you'll see frequent references to fights between patent lawyers and antitrust lawyers.
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+And it's usually a turf it's usually framed in terms of a turf war.
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+The patent lawyers are telling the antitrust lawyers.
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+The Constitution says we get a monopoly monopoly by definition is just allowed you know this is a monopoly that's allowed to exist screw your rules whatever they are about monopolies because we got a monopoly from the government here for 15 years we're going to do whatever we want with it.
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+And so that's kind of the attitude that they have about their business practices whereas antitrust lawyers trying to look at this stuff and say that boy that sure looks like price fixing that sure looks like you know you're trying to gain market power as it's a turn that they throw around market power.
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+And then attempt to seek monopoly power.
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+Now I'll cut to the what JC want to talk about which is patent pools now these patent pools are there's a case involving Phillips electronics from the like 1995 it's not a Supreme Court case.
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+You're welcome to go read if you want but it it's it's for complicated reasons it's the law or it's the main controlling law in this it's sort of the Constitution as far as as far as these patent pools are concerned.
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+And this goes back to the day when people still burned CDs you could get a CDR drive for your computer to go to the store and get a stack of blank CDs.
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+And so compact disc or compact disc recordable that was like an industry standard.
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+Okay everybody had to it didn't matter who made the drive it didn't matter what country it came out it could be made in China could be made in Malaysia could be made in America but it had to conform to this industry standard.
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+And then the same was true of any of the discs that were that were made for this they had to conform to some industry standard.
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+So what was happening was that companies were going to Phillips and they were saying well you know we don't need the whole we don't need to license all this technology from you we just need you know this one laser patent or something and then we'll go and make the rest of the device
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+Ourself and Phillips was saying no if you want to if you want that patent you have to buy all these other patents.
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+Now the best analogy I can think of here is let's say you really enjoy watching a breaking bad.
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+I'm not saying I like that show but let's say you just like that show and you don't want to watch anything else on cable.
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+You just want to get the network that it was an AMC that breaking bad is on.
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+But then Comcast says we'll know if you want to get you want to watch that show you have to buy the gold package it's $99 a month.
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+You know it includes all these other channels you don't want all this ESPN stuff you didn't want you just want to watch breaking bad Comcast is saying no you got to buy this package.
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+So that's what Phillips was doing it was it was telling any company that wanted to get in the CDR game that they had to buy this pool of patents.
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+And these and these other these these companies that were looking to make these products they were saying look that's that's any competitive behavior that's that's that's that's you know it's one company using its influence over the market to dictate.
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+You know that everybody else has to use all these unrelated what they called non-essential patents patents that were not essential to making a CDR making a CD recordable.
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+And so economists that had been trained now through by you know 30 40 years of brainwashing by Milton Friedman's accolades analyze this issue and they said well you know this doesn't really look harmful because you're not required to use the patents
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+and well and it also frees you from any concern that you're going to be sued for infringement because you know if you if when you bought the Phillips patent if you also acquired the Sony patent.
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+Then you know you you know you're in the all clear is Sony can't sue you for patent infringement you know even if you accidentally use Sony's technology.
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+You know you don't have to use it you can use other technology and and for that matter Phillips could could just jack up the price and you know sell sell you know not sell you the package would be the equivalent of Comcast saying okay well just for
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+you know we'll let you watch only AMC for $99 a month.
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+And so the short of it is that this this practice became blessed.
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+Now what's happened since then is that patent pools have been explored in a range of contexts and they've been utilized in a range of contexts and they're used with respect to setting industry standards.
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+So I think where I'll end here is that maybe the easiest example I can think of and this is just hypothetical I haven't looked to see whether this exists but let's say you've got a patent on a strand of RNA and a patent on a delivery mechanism
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+a lipid nanoparticle and they're both patents are owned set by separate companies.
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+There are competitors to produce each of those products but these two companies form a patent pool and they effectively dictate the industry standard.
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+And so all you really need at this point is one big patent one technology that one you know that that's really hot that the market's really interested in and you can package all this other shovelware along with it and what you end up with is effectively a cartel a group of
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+companies ganging up and getting together and carving up the market and deciding how they're going to exercise this market power that they hope to establish by setting an industry standard.
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+And so I think if you go and start looking at what's been said about patent pools and medicine and COVID therapies and all that just in the last couple of years, you'll find that there's been enormous interest in this.
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+I think that's understating it and as you might expect there's competition you know to see who's going to get in who's going to get in the pool and who's going to get left out.
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+Some of these are being run by international organizations like the World Health Organization.
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+So if the World Health Organization is setting let's say an industry standard for a type of vaccine therapy.
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+It's obviously to your benefit to have your patent included in the patent pool that the World Health Organization is selling because your patent even if it's not essential, even if it's not that great.
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+It's you're still getting royalties off of it and it would be to your disadvantage of course to not to have patented technology that's not in that pool so I'll leave it there and I'll see if that gets things started.
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+Who would have technology that would have maybe been in a patent pool or not in a patent pool and then when you weren't in a patent pool you might be pissed about it.
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+Um, you mean like let's say for example the counter measures of the pandemic could have been one patent pool and if you if you made the cut then regardless of whether countries were using your patent you might still get some kickback from that.
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+Yeah so I think if you if you imagine sort of a a perfect controlled environment where all the industry players are allowed to meet in a room and you know draw charts on a whiteboard.
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+They might decide how you know they might come up with an estimate of how big the market is and how much they can get away with charging overall for the patent pool.
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+And they're going to set a price. Now this is all this is all activity that would theoretically be illegal under antitrust law at some level, but it's it's not illegal for a patent holders to sit in brainstorm this stuff how they can set prices globally and they can do what's called price discrimination,
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+where you charge a different price and for one level of consumer you charge lower prices in the developing world for example for your patents versus what you charge Americans okay that's called price discrimination.
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+So they're allowed to come up with all these tactics in terms of how they're going to carve up the market and they'll come up with estimates of what they think the global market's going to be.
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+And keep in mind too that I think most of these purchases are being made by governments and so you know if they have a commitment from a you know a European government to buy a certain amount of product it's probably you know they're probably going to pay.
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+So I think they have probably a reliable sense of what their market is and how much they can get away with charging.
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+And then they're going to apportion the royalties among the participants in the pool.
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+I don't know how you would you what metrics they would use to determine how royalties would be distributed.
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+But if you know there's there are no rules in essence and how they do this.
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+There could be patents in the pool that have no value to anyone who's making the product okay these are called non-essential patents right.
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+And there there have been arguments about whether it makes sense to allow patent pools to include all these non-essential patents or who should be allowed to determine what's
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+which patents are non-essential and whether it matters.
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+And you know the trend has been to just kind of say who cares there's no harm no harm no foul.
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+That's that's the economists have been trained to look at it this way.
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+It would take hours for me to explain why but they were enchanted with this Milton Friedman view of antitrust pushed through in the 70s and 80s that gave them a totally different
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+perspective on this area of the law and how it should be understood.
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+Now I think what I would be concerned about these days is what Mark brought up which is that some of these patents are kind of science fiction okay.
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+The antibody patent paradox really illustrates this it was a paper that was pushed it was pushed through Yale law journal.
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+I think February this year and then all of a sudden in May get cited by the Supreme Court kind of ridiculous.
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+And the Supreme Court in one fell swoop.
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+Well invalidated at least some antibody patents right there on the spot but also potentially invalidated other antibody patents that are premised on the same scientific theories.
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+And so, you know, there's a question I think whether companies have been able to exploit the US patent trade office to get patents on science fiction in a sense.
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+Okay.
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+You know, if you watch JC's broadcast, you know, even I think just the other night, you know, there was an example of who's that fellow Vanden Bosch here at Vanden Bosch showing all these diagrams, giving these jumbled explanations of how things work.
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+If you're allowed to push that through the patent system.
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+If you're allowed to get it past US patent trade office and you're allowed to get it into patent pool and nobody is allowed to challenge it as nonessential.
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+Who's, you know, who's in a position to do anything about it.
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+Okay.
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+Who's checking who are the gatekeepers.
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+This most recent case in May, the Supreme Court acted as the gatekeepers.
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+They said, no, we'll be the gatekeepers now that standard they use theirs is an old standard.
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+They said that in order for patent, this gets back again to the original purpose of a patent.
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+It's to it's to make information available to the public.
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+I said, look, in order for the patent to be useful, somebody has to know somebody looking at it has to know how to make the end product.
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+They use an analogy to somebody trying to patent a recipe for bread where they just say.
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+Mix various starches with water at various ratios and see what you get.
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+All right.
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+They said that's too generic doesn't tell somebody how to actually make bread.
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+Okay.
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+And that's the analogy they drew.
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+And they used lots of old, you know, 19th century examples involving telegraphs and whatnot to illustrate their point.
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+They weren't really snowed by any of the new science behind it.
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+And they kind of made that the standard.
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+What that means, it's hard to say because it's too early, I think, to say.
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+But certainly it had the effect of invalidating, you know, or I should say reducing the value of some of these antibody patents.
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+You'd have to think.
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+And maybe that's to the advantage of companies that were competing with these antibody patents.
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+Maybe you have competing versions of science fiction narratives that are being pushed through the US patent and trade office.
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+And, you know, once the US patent and trade office signs off on something and says this is a valid patent, well, it could be worth billions of dollars.
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+And, you know, there could be investors on Wall Street.
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+You don't really know anything about the underlying science, but they say, well, this looks like a good patent.
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+They say it's going to cure cancer, you know, should be valid technology.
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+And it could be that a lot of people are getting snowed.
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+I myself can't find the gatekeeper who's checking any of this stuff.
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+My hat's off to Mark for spotting this stuff because I wouldn't have known to look for it.
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+Really just Mark was chasing down some rabbit hole on, you know, the Weinstein family and starts asking questions about patents and finds a paper on patent law.
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+And, you know, weeks later, I'm kind of, I'm dizzy.
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+Over.
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+Yeah, the science fiction part is that's a good word to use the phrase that's repeated a few times in that document regular guy is the galactic level of the galactic range of antibodies.
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+And just to be clear, antibodies are a protein.
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+So many of these patents are actually overlapping with just just the ability to patent proteins in general.
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+And with the more that is discovered about how proteins are manufactured via the ribosome and about how they work based upon a variety of holding and epigenetic conditions and so on.
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+The more we realize, we don't know.
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+It's a it's an endless loop.
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+Yeah, at the same time, you have all of these companies, governments, NGOs that need to patent it.
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+It's it's it's a real pickle.
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+It's a real pickle.
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+My take on it is, well, first of all, you need to, you need, you don't want people to know that there's so much mystery involved because that's not going to do a good job of getting people to adopt and try out.
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+The technology and help in advance.
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+So the patent in addition to the challenges of the company is protecting their own intellectual property.
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+I suspect again, this is my own speculation.
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+And I was here asked to agree with it is that things are being done in a way to sort of conceal how much is unknown to sell it, you know, to over sell it, if you will, with with more confidence, because there needs to be a lot more work done.
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+A lot more data collected to potentially someday understand these nuances in greater detail.
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+It's again, I'm sure different people have different spins on it.
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+I've just reached the point where I think we're we're looking at issues which almost transcend money.
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+These issues are just so big right now and there's just more money behind it than you can shake a stick at, really.
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+Maybe it's expressed as, you know, different companies and profits and some revenue sharing and so on, but there's just more money behind this and more enthusiasm in ways that you can shake a stick at.
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+So thank you. I think that's a fantastic summary over to you, Jay.
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+So yeah, I'm, I'm still trying to digest the.
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+The idea as antibodies as a patent pool or as countermeasures as a patent pool, rather, and other examples of a patent pool. So we had CDs.
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+Well, let me let me maybe share something that that's that's contemporary that kind of gave me a chuckle.
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+Oh, it says, I can't share screens.
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+Oh, that's just me. That's not setting it right.
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+But yeah, just on.
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+You're protecting my privacy there.
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+Yeah, regarding that the pool issue was I just had a couple of my notes here.
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+You know, I would, I would think that patents should be written to, for some extent, be standalone.
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+And if there's like multiple patents that need each other, they should be packaged together in a way. So is it?
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+I can understand there's maybe some to perhaps some instances where there's interconnectivity, but to think that, you know, non essential patents also get thrown in, you know, like, you have to watch. You have to.
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+You know, you want HBO Max, you need to get, you know, the 27 ESPN channels, even if you hate sports.
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+I ended up that's that's a bit absurd.
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+What are we looking at here? Letter to Mark.
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+Hammer.
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+Yeah, sorry, I'm trying to try to find the mute button there. So, okay, this is.
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+This is a letter that was issued by the Department of Justice antitrust division.
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+These are the people who are supposed to be in charge of criminal enforcement of antitrust laws.
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+Somebody had asked them.
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+You know, is it okay if we form a patent pool to develop a 5G standard, an industry standard for 5G.
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+All right.
+
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+This company called, I guess, a Vanshi. All right. I don't know who Vanshi is, but anyway, they asked for DOJ and analyze this.
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+DOJ wrote them a very long letter.
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+I can't.
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+I won't pretend to really understand what a lot of this says, but the upshot of it is it says it's okay for you to do this.
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+All right.
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+Now, that prompted a letter that for some reason is available on SSRN.
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+I don't know.
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+51:48.000 --> 51:57.000
+Normally, when I open a PDF on SSRN, I don't expect to see by overnight mail and email at the top.
+
+51:57.000 --> 52:04.000
+But it's a group of people who are kind of upset about this.
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+They don't like this letter.
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+And they say, DOJ, you know, you're not really given this.
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+You're not looking at this the right way. There's some real harm here.
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+And they talk about the way this patent pool is set up.
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+They have a problem with it and it's signed by all these people.
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+We've seen this before, you know, where petitions pop up that have a bunch of, you know, famous people attached to them.
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+But I think it leads off with, yeah, I don't know.
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+All right. And then there is a response to that that was filed.
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+Somebody else.
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+52:46.000 --> 52:55.000
+These are former judges and academics who also are upset about this.
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+Okay. They're arguing about the 5G standard and whether this should be allowed.
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+Now, here we've got former general counsel, the federal trade commission, somebody at the Mercatus Center, George Mason University.
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+And they're saying that here that this, you know, this patent pool is fine.
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+Go ahead. Now, what's at stake here seems to be what gets established as the industry standard for 5G.
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+Okay. If you can get, you can get this.
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+I think if I'm reading this correctly, a company is trying to use this, create this patent pool and then use it to push.
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+And it for that pool of patents to be adopted as the industry standard for 5G wireless in the United States, or at least one industry standard or competitor for the industry standard in the United States.
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+And, you know, if you were, and the concern there is that what if you, if you have a pool of patents that becomes the industry standard, it means everybody's reliant on it to make that product at that point.
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+And it can become, you know, in a sense, like a monopoly, like a cartel, like this thing we're supposed to fear, right?
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+So I think the idea here is that with respect to medical therapies, there may be discussions about what constitutes an mRNA vaccine.
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+Okay. What's the industry standard? Or what's the industry standard for, you know, a medical therapy, a cancer therapy that's called, you know, whatever, that's got a name attached to it, right?
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+54:38.000 --> 54:55.000
+And then pharmaceutical companies may be allowed to tinker, but they at least have to buy the rights to these other ancillary technologies when they purchase the rights to make that particular pharmaceutical product.
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+And so if the patent pool includes not just the RNA chain, but also a patent for the liquid nanoparticle delivery system, why would you then invest in your own separate liquid nanoparticle delivery system?
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+We already own the rights to make this one. You're just going to make that one, right? And it's going to become the industry standard.
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+It's going to become the one that people are going to use by default, or the company end users will use by default.
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+It's the safest option because it saves you from any risk of being sued for infringing on someone else's patent.
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+You already own the rights to the one in the patent pool, so you'll just use that.
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+And so by getting your patent in the patent pool, you make it more likely that it's going to be the one that's taken up and used by the end user, which in this case is most likely a government health care system.
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+And so in the case of the mRNA patents that were that were enforceable that at one point, Robert Malone was the owner of, but then long long ago was not anymore.
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+Those were valid or still enforceable until like two years into the pandemic and then they became, they expired.
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+Well, yeah, it's hard to say, you know, there's a statutory limit on the life of patents, which is 15 years.
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+Okay.
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+No, there is a narrow, like I said, there's certain things that have been considered construed as patent misuse by courts.
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+And one of the rare occasions where the Supreme Court actually found that something was patent misuse was a case where a company tried to use
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+a licensing agreement to effectively extend the life of the patent.
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+So somebody who wanted to pay for royalties on a patent that was going to expire in five years, they would have a contract where they would continue to pay royalties for another five years after the patent had expired and became public domain.
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+And the Supreme Court, the lower courts looked at this and said, who cares?
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+You're just stretching out payments over a longer period of time and, you know, where's the harm?
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+But the Supreme Court, for whatever reason, didn't like this, said it was that it was patent misuse because it tried to extend the life of the patent.
+
+57:32.000 --> 58:00.000
+Now, where this gets complicated is that there is scholarship coming out of one or two corners on how the use of private arbitration and private settlement agreements between firms to reach terms that would be illegal under other circumstances.
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+58:00.000 --> 58:07.000
+And these could include agreements to extend royalty payments past the 15-year life of the patent.
+
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+But, you know, these agreements could have non-disclosure clauses attached to them.
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+There's no reason that you or I would know about them, right?
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+So you can look at, I've seen patents where Robert Malone is listed as an inventor.
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+And I haven't seen any that were filed or that were granted after 2007.
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+So, you know, if I count up, I have to assume that those patents expired in 2022.
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+But I don't know what could have happened in private litigation, you know, after 2007.
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+For that matter, I don't know if the patents were ever worth anything.
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+It may be that they were competitors.
+
+58:55.000 --> 58:58.000
+Maybe that they were picked up and that Malone was paid out on them.
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+He could have made quite a penny off them.
+
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+But, you know, it may have been that the royalties ran out in 2022.
+
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+I'm trying to formulate this question here.
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+If you have something you want to throw in, Mark, go ahead.
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+Could the who and the U.S. or, you know, like, for example, would the FDA or the U.S.
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+CDC have been in a especially advantageous position to put together us?
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+I mean, if I'm trying to think how something like this could have been used to guarantee a more control over the pandemic response.
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+Well, the patents are specifically designed to put money in the pockets of their owners.
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+That wasn't the original idea.
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+As I said, the original idea here was supposed to be about informing the public, right?
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+Because the idea here is that if we don't allow, if we don't have patents, if we don't allow these intellectual property monopolies to exist,
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+then everything will be kept as a trade secret.
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+That's the fear.
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+01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:24.000
+Everybody will keep everything as a trade secret and knowledge will never get spread.
+
+01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:32.000
+And so, but the patent holders themselves, they're not thinking, gee, how can I inform the public?
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+01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:39.000
+How can I better advance mankind's understanding of molecular biology?
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+01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:45.000
+They're thinking, how can I make the most money possible off of this?
+
+01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:53.000
+Now, if you can sell it to the U.S. Patent Trade Office, that gives it a stamp of authenticity that you can take to the FDA.
+
+01:00:53.000 --> 01:01:04.000
+Imagine trying to take an unpatented pharmaceutical product to the FDA and asking to do safety and efficacy testing on it.
+
+01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:15.000
+A lot of the complaints that you'll see about the FDA too, really relate to the length of time that these companies have to go through safety and efficacy testing.
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+01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:25.000
+Because while that safety and efficacy testing is ongoing, the 15-year lifespan on that patent is the clock is ticking.
+
+01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:36.000
+So if you get a patent on a drug and it takes eight years to do safety and efficacy testing, you've only got seven years left on that patent.
+
+01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:45.000
+And so that can affect how companies end up pricing the drugs that come out of those patents or whatnot.
+
+01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:58.000
+But it's all about attracting money. At the end of the day, you want to convince people that this patent that you have is worth X amount of dollars because it cures this disease.
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+01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:08.000
+It produces, in these case of the antibody patents, they were saying, it literally allows you to cure disease.
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+And according to the article, by the way, that Mark brought to my attention, that was the time of February 2023, something like $150 billion a year industry.
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+And you know that the revenues, maybe it was even profits off these patents were over $150 billion a year and growing.
+
+01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:48.000
+So if you can convince enough people that your science is legit, if you can launder it through the USPTO, then you can launder it through the FDA,
+
+01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:58.000
+and you can launder it through the World Health Organization, and you can launder it through MSNBC and the president of the United States.
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+01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:06.000
+I don't know, is Robert Malone saying no.
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+01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:24.000
+Speaking of the efficacy testing, and Jay and I talk a lot about this, is if the mRNA platform itself can be demonstrated or is generally understood to be safe and effective in and of itself.
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+That would cut down, as you know, a significant amount of time and expedite the ability to maybe patent new things based upon that platform with the very least get it out to market without burning, potentially burning less of the clock, if you will.
+
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+And the strategy that we've seen is, we see that there's a lot of emphasis being put on the protein or proteins that this platform is causing the recipients of it to produce via on the transfection itself.
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+And plenty of individuals have suggested and put forth evidence that the protein that's produced is sometimes or oftentimes toxic in and of itself.
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+01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:36.000
+Now, while that can be misconstrued as by some as the platform itself is is is the whole thing is bad.
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+01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:56.000
+The reality is that if one can make the case that the virus was bad because of the protein and the transfection is only causing harm because it made a perfect copy of that bad protein, then the consensus has to be the platform works perfectly.
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+01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:07.000
+It's a so it's a, I think a lot of people are getting baited into this and they don't realize what they are going to be acknowledging as a consequence of it.
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+01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:25.000
+But perhaps the, you know, to add some credence to your statement of products and patents being pursued to to maybe expedite things expert to ensure that the clock isn't burned as new stuff rolls out.
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+01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:30.000
+Perhaps this the standardized platform plays into that.
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+You know, that's an excellent point because suppose that your patent pool is anchored by one fundamental patent that everybody wants like in that Phillips CDR case, I suppose Phillips was the, the owner of the patent that the people really wanted.
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+They didn't want the Sony patent and the other whatever patents that came along with it.
+
+01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:14.000
+But that could shit. But if you've got a pool of patents, it could be that over time that that Phillips patent expires, but that there's another patent that's in the pool that's newer and that continues to drive the pool.
+
+01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:34.000
+And so you have a six. I don't, you know, and again, these are the kinds of practices that are discussed and hypothesized in things like the letters that I showed on the screen, which are current with written within the last year where lawyers are arguing with DOJ.
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+01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:46.000
+You know, and who writes a letter to DOJ saying, wow, we really appreciate the analysis you did.
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+01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:59.000
+Somebody wrote a letter to the government thanking them for doing such an academic sort of a letter to DOJ saying, thank you for your academic analysis saying that this patent pooling process is entirely lawful here.
+
+01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:09.000
+That's an odd thing to do. And it, and it, and it provoked an outcry. And so this is a, this is an, this is an oddly contested area of the law.
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+The other thing I noticed too though, is that these, you know, hold on, hold on one second regular guy. Don't change the subject yet. Mark wants to ask some.
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+I, well, when it's appropriate.
+
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+Are these patent pools identified on the patent? I mean, is there like a section that says part of a pool, which also includes either patents or do you do you find out mysteriously by surprise? How would one inquire about how patent pools are constructed?
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+That's a great question.
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+As far as I know, you find out when you, when you go to buy the patent and you enter into discussions with the patent holder.
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+01:07:49.000 --> 01:08:04.000
+He has to find what's in it. Right. Right. You have to go and try to license the product. Now, you know, I see, for example, the World Health Organization is trying to establish some sort of medicine's patent pool.
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+01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:08.000
+Okay. So they want to have everything.
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+01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:14.000
+You know, I suppose made made publicly known to any perspective buyer, but.
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+01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:32.000
+And, and, and, you know, that's the kind of thing where the economist will get into arguments about, you know, whether it's good to have that level of transparency in the market, whether that should be a condition of participation in the market that you, you know, have that some kind of transparency
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+or central registry. But right now, from my understanding, it's the Wild West.
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+01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:43.000
+That's what it comes down to. But, you know,
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+01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:55.000
+I think I would, I really am inviting is others to enter into the discussion because I'm, I'm an amateur.
+
+01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:59.000
+Well, you're an amateur. What does that make the rest of us?
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+01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:13.000
+I mean, can we mention that? Can we mention the article or the author that you that we found when we were, we were trying to find somebody to read who had written about this?
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+01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:28.000
+Is it? Oh, well, yes. You know, I guess if I'm going to, I'm not sure which article of this person's there are a couple of people that that I've stumbled across as I've, as I've looked into this.
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+01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:35.000
+Now, one of them is an academic named Eric Hovenkamp.
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+He, I don't know where he teaches right now. I think he may be at University of Southern California.
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+For many years, he was located at Northwestern University.
+
+01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:57.000
+So he was sort of on the other side of the lake from University of Chicago where all this antitrust business was coming out of.
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+01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:06.000
+You know, that, that, and, and Hovenkamp, it was, it was, it has, has for years really stuck out to me as knowledgeable about this.
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+01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:14.000
+There's another Hovenkamp that also is an antitrust law professor at some law school. And I think that may be his father.
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+I haven't tried to do that. Herbert Herbert. Yes. Yeah. I assume, I assume that father and son.
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+I, I, I'm, I'm, you know, respecting their privacy there because I'm, I'm only interested in what they have to say as academics. Yes, I see.
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+01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:47.000
+But to the extent that, you know, anyone's really, I think, putting out good, consistent, solid research, well written papers on, on the intersection of patent and antitrust law.
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+01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:55.000
+That's Hovenkamp. Unfortunately, with respect to patent pools, the only work by him that I could find were really descriptive.
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+01:10:55.000 --> 01:11:11.000
+I did find, I don't know if I can share a screen with a YouTube link or how I would do that, but a random video on YouTube put out by University of Pennsylvania.
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+01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:21.000
+And if you just do a search or you pen patent antitrust law, you'll get this one that'll say lecture 20 patents and antitrust one.
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+01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:36.000
+That's actually an excellent condensed introduction to, to this area of the law. And I'd be interested to know whether other people are really find it as engaging as I did.
+
+01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:45.000
+So, I, I learned all of this from, from a guy named Randy Picker.
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+01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:56.000
+And Randy Picker didn't, he, let's just say his, his, his take on things reflected in institutional bias.
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+01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:12.000
+He's closely affiliated with one school in particular. And so I didn't get an outside view of this area of the law until I started looking into this and seeing what people from other institutions had to say about antitrust and, and intellectual property.
+
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+So, get there.
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+01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:30.000
+What antitrust law per se violations. Less than 10 of 29 or that's not the right one. Less than 20. It's a lecture 20.
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+01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:36.000
+I can, I can share my screen here. If it's not a problem.
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+I don't know. Yeah. Okay. I see. Wait. Yeah.
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+01:12:42.000 --> 01:13:04.000
+But it's a pretty, it's a pretty, I guess it's going to be pretty, pretty long or what 45 minutes. Yeah, 45 minutes. It's, it's, it's fairly academic. The thing is, I don't know a non academic way to bring somebody into how this area of the law is understood and analyze.
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+01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:15.000
+I think it might be easier in some ways to think about it as something analogous to the housing.
+
+01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:29.000
+What the derivatives, you know, collapse that happened. Remember Michael Burries looking at these derivatives and says, you know, oh my God, there's a whole bunch of fraud and then they made the movie, the big short about this guy.
+
+01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:47.000
+Right. It may be that it really is a matter of somebody saying, Hey, there's a whole pool of patents being pushed here that, you know, are drawing all kinds of love from investors, but they all have a fundamental flaw, which is that they're based on science fiction.
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+01:13:48.000 --> 01:14:04.000
+Science fiction that was laundered to the US patent trade office. Science fiction that they are hoping to, and, and, and once, and once it's been blessed by the US patent trade office, the FDA isn't going to question anything except whether it passes safety and efficacy tests.
+
+01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:19.000
+And so investors, you know, seeing this, who's in a position to really say whether a patent is pushing science fiction, right? I think it requires outside eyes and outside attention that, that, that isn't there.
+
+01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:36.000
+And I thought it was neat that the Supreme Court picked up on these antibody patents and, and, and, and, and, you know, notice that they had this little, well, flaw in them and potentially, you know, pulled a lot of money out of that $150 billion antibody patent market.
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+01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:47.000
+It also occurs to me that, you know, there was a time when I heard about my monoclonal antibodies being a viable therapy for people who had COVID.
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+01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:55.000
+And then I heard that, Oh, they're being pulled from the market. They don't work. Right. Vaccines weren't pulled from the market, but the monoclonals were.
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+01:14:55.000 --> 01:15:05.000
+And then it's sometimes, sometime after that, we saw an article in Yale Law Review saying antibody patents have all these flaws in the science.
+
+01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:13.000
+And then the Supreme Court may of 2023 says, Oh, yeah, we see flaws in the science of these antibody patents.
+
+01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:30.000
+I don't hear it. You know, so was it did some did did was there was there a competing cartel of farmer companies that wanted to push a standard treatment for there for COVID.
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+01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:35.000
+You know, that was, it was patented and could attract some some private sector investors.
+
+01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:44.000
+But, you know, it was competing with these mount monoclonal monoclonal antibodies and wanted to, you know, pull the wind out of the competitor sales.
+
+01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:52.000
+That's the question I have there. I don't know that we're looking at a situation where, you know, the good guys came to the rescue.
+
+01:15:53.000 --> 01:16:15.000
+Well, there we've had a lot of people tell us on our streams that there was a long standing desire to change from the quote unquote traditional methods of making vaccines and immunizations and and shifting more to these genetic based technologies.
+
+01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:36.000
+And so if you can imagine a scenario where the selection of the technologies that was going to be used during the pandemic was not a small decision, but actually a big one going forward into the future and, you know, what patents will be in the next one.
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+01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:45.000
+What what what won't be in the next one and maybe monoclonal antibodies are something that were on the table originally.
+
+01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:54.000
+And then because of this ruling had to be removed were removed or as you said, cleared the way for newer technologies to step in.
+
+01:16:54.000 --> 01:17:01.000
+We heard Robert Malone the other day saying that he was applying for patents for combinations of repurposed drugs.
+
+01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:23.000
+And so these could have is there a possibility that that can you imagine that warp speed could have accelerated the patent approval procedure in order to, you know, rapidly get as many waiting or on the cusp of approval patents through so that they could be included in such a pool.
+
+01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:31.000
+I mean, I can see all kinds of weird games that could potentially be played because of the state of the emergency that was declared over.
+
+01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:51.000
+Yeah, I'm not in any position to know what was done, you know, behind the scenes and what two parties agree to privately to a contract for one party pays royalties to the other.
+
+01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:57.000
+There's no there isn't any reason why I would necessarily know about that.
+
+01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:07.000
+And for that matter, many of the companies that I see involved in biotech or small companies are not publicly traded.
+
+01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:17.000
+They're privately held so they don't have the same reporting requirements that a publicly traded company like Pfizer would have.
+
+01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:26.000
+So it's not clear to me what level of visibility anyone could gain into what's happening there.
+
+01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:31.000
+I think you'd have to speculate really you'd have to be in the game, right?
+
+01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:40.000
+You'd have to be a company trying to make a vaccine or trying to be available if I can get Robert Malone on a stream.
+
+01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:46.000
+Would you be available to help me, you know, keep the, keep the conversation sharp.
+
+01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:49.000
+No mark would be available.
+
+01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:55.000
+You know, I, I, I, I have to, I have to think about it.
+
+01:18:55.000 --> 01:19:04.000
+I don't know that I want to end up on Robert Malone's radar or be known to be known to him, but it's.
+
+01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:12.000
+And, and, you know, again, I'm not the best qualified person asked some of these questions. I think, I think really it would be helpful.
+
+01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:20.000
+To look up, you know, you can, you can go to the USPTO website and you can also go.
+
+01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:26.000
+There's a world international patent organization, WPI, WIPO.
+
+01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:30.000
+You can go to these websites. They're various services.
+
+01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:36.000
+You can go to government run and where you can search for patents and you can see who owns what.
+
+01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:41.000
+And it's interesting, I think, to go on there.
+
+01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:48.000
+If there's somebody, you know, you're curious about your reading and I've just started doing this in recent recent weeks.
+
+01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:57.000
+Following your show, JC, occasionally, I'll, I'll, a name will pop up on your show and I'll Google and, and I find, I do find patents.
+
+01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:03.000
+I do find these people listed as inventors on some of these patents on some of these databases.
+
+01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:09.000
+And so I think it would be helpful to know, you know, if there's some.
+
+01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:15.000
+Let's say, collusive behavior, because, you know, what antitrust law.
+
+01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:22.000
+And antitrust law isn't just about punishing monopolists.
+
+01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:33.000
+It's any monopoly-like behavior, which includes, you know, cartels that form and fix prices and, and behave like monopolists.
+
+01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:38.000
+And it's, it can be very hard to spot cartels.
+
+01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:42.000
+And what's funny about it, you know, you can do a Google search.
+
+01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:47.000
+There's a, for cartel theory, you'll see it as an actual Wikipedia page on cartel theory.
+
+01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:57.000
+But one of the things that Milton Friedman convinced us brainwash every economist in America to believe this about cartels.
+
+01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:03.000
+That no cartel can last forever, because inevitably someone will defect and undercut the competitors.
+
+01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:13.000
+In other words, there's an assumption that it's man's default nature to, to compete with fellow man, not to cooperate.
+
+01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:18.000
+And so at some point that will kick in, that competitive instinct in the cartel will, will fall apart.
+
+01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:27.000
+And so this leads to the conclusion that there isn't a real need to police against cartels because they sell, they self-destruct.
+
+01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:31.000
+Okay, think about like mutagenic death of a virus, right?
+
+01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:36.000
+It's just a matter of time before it peters out and becomes background noise.
+
+01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:39.000
+That sounds like a great strategy for cartels.
+
+01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:51.000
+Yeah, yeah, the thing is, if you ask these Milton Friedman acolytes, who again constitute 100% of economists in the West, probably in Western Europe for that matter.
+
+01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:56.000
+If you ask them, well, how long can a cartel last?
+
+01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:59.000
+They won't put a little time, you know, they won't tell you.
+
+01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:07.000
+And I've seen some, some, some pages that say, well, occasionally they can last decades or even centuries.
+
+01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:25.000
+You know, so this is, this is something that's always bothered me is that we don't police against cartels because even our regulatory agencies, our Department of Justice antitrust division, has it baked into its mind that cartels just self-destruct.
+
+01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:27.000
+And so you don't have to be on guard against them.
+
+01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:39.000
+But here's an area where patents can be utilized to form cartels with, and it totally protected, they're given a total loan.
+
+01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:48.000
+The Supreme Court, not the Supreme Court, but effectively the Supreme Court has given them a protective bubble in which to operate here.
+
+01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:51.000
+The Supreme Court is somewhat complicit in this.
+
+01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:55.000
+But I don't think it's going to get fixed through the legal system.
+
+01:22:55.000 --> 01:23:02.000
+If you, if you try to take this through the legal system, you'd have to engage in arguments with economists that you're never going to win.
+
+01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:05.000
+I think it really is more about looking at this.
+
+01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:11.000
+And that's because, and that's because you have to show that they're doing some societal harm with their monopoly.
+
+01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:20.000
+You have to show, well, under the current, under the dominant theory, you would have to show, first of all, that there's a harm to the consumer.
+
+01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:22.000
+Okay.
+
+01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:23.000
+To the, to the consumer.
+
+01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:27.000
+It has to be a consumer based analysis.
+
+01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:30.000
+Any harm that you describe has to be a harm to the consumer.
+
+01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:35.000
+It can't be a harm to a, another competitor in the market, another company who wants to do business.
+
+01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:40.000
+It has to be something, you have to show that it's harming the, the end user.
+
+01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:49.000
+And that's something that's very hard to do in the case of these patent pooling cases because the,
+
+01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:54.000
+the company raising the argument isn't saying, oh, you know, the consumer is being harmed.
+
+01:23:54.000 --> 01:24:01.000
+They're just saying, I shouldn't have to, they're, they're, they're, they're sort of assuming that if they didn't have to buy this pool of patents,
+
+01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:06.000
+it would cost much less to just buy the one patent, you know, that they want.
+
+01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:12.000
+And, and they're not, it's, when you can't allege a harm to the consumer, you don't really have a leg to stand on under current,
+
+01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:18.000
+under the dominant theory of law that governs any kind of antitrust question today.
+
+01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:29.000
+So your, your ability to allege that the consumer is being harmed by this cartel-like behavior by, by a, by a farmer, patent holders,
+
+01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:31.000
+that's a stretch.
+
+01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:39.000
+And I don't, and it's, it's really, I don't think, I mean, you know, again, I'm not qualified.
+
+01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:45.000
+I'm not qualified to even really, you know, get into some of this stuff, but it just doesn't look to me like it's a,
+
+01:24:45.000 --> 01:24:47.000
+it's a, it's a productive way to approach things.
+
+01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:56.000
+I do think it would be more productive to have some public examination of these patents because that's exactly what happened in that Yale Law Journal,
+
+01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:08.000
+the Anabani patent paradox, was that somebody, you know, purported lead to law professors sat down and, you know, examine these patents and said,
+
+01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:13.000
+well, lo and behold, these things are, you know, Star Trek science fiction.
+
+01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:17.000
+This is a, this is a head scratcher, you know, Yale Law Journal.
+
+01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:21.000
+And then three months later, it's cited by Supreme Court.
+
+01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:33.000
+Boy, you know, that, that was what it took in that case to get these anabody patents struck down, right, exposed for what they were.
+
+01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:40.000
+So I think, you know, that's, that's a, let's say you were to take that approach towards.
+
+01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:52.000
+But does that, does that look like to you more like machinations behind the scenes to feed a Supreme Court that's always looking to reign in power?
+
+01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:59.000
+Or do you think that looks more like somebody said, Hey, we need this because we're going to make this decision.
+
+01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:04.000
+And so then somebody wrote it knowing it.
+
+01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:11.000
+I, I, I, I, I, all I can say is that it was extremely well done.
+
+01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:23.000
+I mean, it was extremely well executed that normally, you know, somebody, normally if a legal academic wants to get something published, you know, the idea is that you're right at first.
+
+01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:33.000
+And then you shop it around the law journals and say, Hey, you know, can you please publish this because they're looking to, you know, they want something to put on their CV.
+
+01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:39.000
+And so, you know, Yale Law Journal is really aiming kind of high.
+
+01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:45.000
+You don't, you don't write an article and then go shopping it around and then go, Oh, golly.
+
+01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:48.000
+You're so lucky Yale Law Journal picked it up, right?
+
+01:26:48.000 --> 01:27:02.000
+And if you look at the Wikipedia page, I think there may be an entire page on just editors of the Yale Law Review, like a look at who's served as the editor of the Yale Law Review.
+
+01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:04.000
+There's a lot of names on there that you'll recognize.
+
+01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:14.000
+It seems to me that somebody that the people who wrote that paper had to know with some certainty that it was going to get run.
+
+01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:19.000
+And that particular law review, because, you know, it's like branding.
+
+01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:21.000
+They have to give it the seal.
+
+01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:24.000
+You know, Yale is, you know, been there.
+
+01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:27.000
+Are you saying, are you saying if I would have written 60 years?
+
+01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:35.000
+Are you saying if I would have written a law review and submitted it to Southern Illinois, it would have not been cited by the Supreme Court?
+
+01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:41.000
+Right, the Supreme Court, if they're going to cite anything, it's going to be a judge.
+
+01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:49.000
+You know, they don't like to, it's typically beneath the Supreme Court to cite something that's not a legal authority.
+
+01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:50.000
+Right.
+
+01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:59.000
+And journal articles are, you know, by and large, just kind of ignored, you know, some of them are intriguing.
+
+01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:05.000
+Sometimes they're useful as repositories of information, but you wouldn't have a judge.
+
+01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:12.000
+Certainly, you know, at the level of the Supreme Court citing, you know, law review article.
+
+01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:27.000
+But here, you know, in this case, since it was published in Yale, it's acceptable, you know, because who's going to, you know, who's going to argue with, you know, it's branding.
+
+01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:29.000
+It's branding is what it boils down to.
+
+01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:32.000
+You know, there's no brand of brand you can put on it.
+
+01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:35.000
+You know, it got cited.
+
+01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:41.000
+And the Supreme Court seemed to think it was, you know, very, boy, this is very intriguing thing.
+
+01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:45.000
+You know, thank God it got published three months before the Supreme Court wrote the decision.
+
+01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:47.000
+What fortuitous timing?
+
+01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:54.000
+Well, while regular guys putting more coins in the payphone marked, you want to, you want to chime in a little bit?
+
+01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:55.000
+I mean, it's kind of hard.
+
+01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:58.000
+I'm also just being kind of run over here.
+
+01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:01.000
+But, you know, it's hard when regular guys.
+
+01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:03.000
+He's working on the off the phone there.
+
+01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:04.000
+He's just talking all the time.
+
+01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:06.000
+It's hard for him when he's on the street like that.
+
+01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:11.000
+Well, I think there's only like two or three payphones like that left in all of Manhattan.
+
+01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:20.000
+So clearly that is at that that poor woman behind him is going to be pretty upset right now.
+
+01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:26.000
+I mean, I'm a little mentally burnt today.
+
+01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:31.000
+But yeah, this is what this is what happens when regular guy starts talking.
+
+01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:32.000
+We do.
+
+01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:33.000
+I'm sorry.
+
+01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:34.000
+No, no, no.
+
+01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:35.000
+We do tend to get.
+
+01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:37.000
+Mark, Mark, you started this.
+
+01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:43.000
+Mark, you are the reason you found that.
+
+01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:53.000
+You know, you went to, you had to find out who Brett Weinstein's parents were and you found out.
+
+01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:57.000
+And that got the ball rolling and had you not done that.
+
+01:29:57.000 --> 01:30:02.000
+It's one of those F around and find out moments, I guess, right?
+
+01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:10.000
+And then it was that coupled with, you know, JC's analysis of Weinstein's statements showing
+
+01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:19.000
+where he ducked and dove around certain topics, feigned ignorance, right?
+
+01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:27.000
+You know, you can, at that point, you're seeing, you can triangulate.
+
+01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:31.000
+And that's how I started to approach this.
+
+01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:40.000
+But then I had to go back and review stuff that I learned a long time ago, but never put to use.
+
+01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:42.000
+It was never relevant to anything I was doing.
+
+01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:47.000
+But it was something that at the time I studied very hard and took very seriously and learned
+
+01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:53.000
+from some, when I learned antitrust and when I learned about intellectual property,
+
+01:30:53.000 --> 01:31:04.000
+I learned it from people who were, at the time, dominant in, you know, let's say in that field.
+
+01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:14.000
+I'll end by saying that one of these days, I hope to inform the public about how Anthony Kennedy
+
+01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:19.000
+gave us the $1,500 iPhone.
+
+01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:27.000
+There's no reason that iPhones shouldn't cost $800 or $900, but there was a kink in the law
+
+01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:33.000
+that Anthony Kennedy ironed out for Apple in 2007 that allowed certain type of activity
+
+01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:38.000
+to take place that allowed them to set 60% profit margins on these products.
+
+01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:40.000
+And Samsung does it too.
+
+01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:41.000
+They all do it.
+
+01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:43.000
+And it's just due to one stroke.
+
+01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:46.000
+One little change in the law that happened in 2007.
+
+01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:48.000
+Anyhow, I'll leave it there.
+
+01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:56.000
+But I do hope to, you know, continue the discussion with the three of you and not dominate.
+
+01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:57.000
+You're never dominating.
+
+01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:00.000
+It's just funny because you're a fountain of information.
+
+01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:08.000
+And as you said or admitted, Marcus sent us both on this little trip that we never really intended to go on.
+
+01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:13.000
+And it's become much more interesting than we thought it would be.
+
+01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:15.000
+So thank you very much, Mark.
+
+01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:16.000
+Way to go.
+
+01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:17.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:32:17.000 --> 01:32:20.000
+I'm humbled by your dedication and your attention to detail.
+
+01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:22.000
+You know, that really.
+
+01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:23.000
+Likewise.
+
+01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:24.000
+Thank you.
+
+01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:25.000
+So to you.
+
+01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:26.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:27.000
+Thank you.
+
+01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:28.000
+Awesome.
+
+01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:29.000
+Thank you.
+
+01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:31.000
+Thanks for setting this up, Jay.
+
+01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:32.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:33.000
+Okay.
+
+01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:34.000
+You want to leave it there, guys?
+
+01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:35.000
+Is that good?
+
+01:32:35.000 --> 01:32:36.000
+I don't know really.
+
+01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:41.000
+I'm going to take a break off though for the evening if that's okay.
+
+01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:44.000
+Well, if you're tired, regular guy's tired, we'll do it again.
+
+01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:47.000
+You know, it looked like he's still fumbling with change there.
+
+01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:50.000
+So you might not have much time left on his call anyway.
+
+01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:54.000
+You know, yeah, I don't want to.
+
+01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:58.000
+I'm afraid if I go, I'll just ramble and go off script tonight.
+
+01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:00.000
+I'd rather have be prepared.
+
+01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:01.000
+It's perfect.
+
+01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:03.000
+I'm so glad you joined me.
+
+01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:04.000
+I'm so glad you joined me.
+
+01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:10.000
+I'm so glad Mark had had the chance to come to and keep up the good work and make sure
+
+01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:13.000
+you keep pinging me so I do my daily as well.
+
+01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:14.000
+Thanks, man.
+
+01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:16.000
+Thanks, regular guy.
+
+01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:17.000
+All right.
+
+01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:18.000
+Appreciate it.
+
+01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:19.000
+Later.
+
+01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:26.880
+Thanks, ladies and gentlemen, for joining me on this stream tonight.
+
+01:33:26.880 --> 01:33:30.760
+Just a little heads up.
+
+01:33:30.760 --> 01:33:36.520
+I noticed I read this thing called big by Matt Stoller and he's been writing about antitrust
+
+01:33:36.520 --> 01:33:37.520
+for a while.
+
+01:33:37.520 --> 01:33:42.680
+It's a little bit different kind of antitrust than with patents, although it wouldn't surprise
+
+01:33:42.680 --> 01:33:48.760
+me if there are patents involved in the Google and Amazon suits as well.
+
+01:33:48.760 --> 01:33:52.200
+I'm going to escape out of here.
+
+01:33:52.200 --> 01:33:55.200
+We're not going to do any of that stuff now.
+
+01:33:55.200 --> 01:33:57.320
+I don't think we're going to do any of that stuff either.
+
+01:33:57.320 --> 01:34:01.200
+We're just going to end it tonight because it's been a nice stream with Mark and a nice
+
+01:34:01.200 --> 01:34:03.920
+stream with a regular guy.
+
+01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:13.120
+Please don't forget that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent
+
+01:34:13.120 --> 01:34:18.520
+of augmenting the immune system is silly.
+
+01:34:18.520 --> 01:34:26.560
+And please don't forget you can go to giga-homebiological.com, you can go scrolling down and you can become
+
+01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:34.160
+a subscribing supporter, you can join us at soapbox, which is giga-home.bio.
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+must be stopped because they are trying to eliminate the control group by making this
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+a widely accepted therapeutic that nobody questions anymore.
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+And that's a terribly dangerous place to go.
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+Thank you very much for joining me.
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+Whoa.
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+Sorry about that.
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+Good night Pamela, good night Jeff.
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+Good night Katniss, good night Lisa.
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+Good night Vimal, one, two, three, four, five, M, thanks for the links.
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+Good night Moderna and Jason, Matt Z, crypto, AG, all of you guys are here regularly and
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+I thank you very much for being here today.
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+If I missed anybody, Fletch, Sue Spider, viewer number one tonight.
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+Can we good night?
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+No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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+no, no, no, no, no,
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+no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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+no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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+Japanese television. People everywhere are starting to listen to him.
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+03:06.000 --> 03:08.000
+It's embarrassing.
+
+03:13.000 --> 03:15.000
+Where does this one come in?
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+03:15.000 --> 03:18.000
+What better way for a swimmer to disappear?
+
+03:18.000 --> 03:21.000
+Uncle Stewart, why did you do it?
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+03:21.000 --> 03:25.000
+Well, I guess he can explain it to the sheriff when he gets here.
+
+03:25.000 --> 03:27.000
+I bet you kids are starving.
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+Zoinks, that's for me.
+
+03:32.000 --> 03:34.000
+Hey, what's this?
+
+03:34.000 --> 03:37.000
+Scooby Dooze was here.
+
+03:37.000 --> 03:39.000
+The whole turkey?
+
+03:39.000 --> 03:40.000
+Gone?
+
+03:43.000 --> 03:45.000
+Scooby, here we go!
+
+03:57.000 --> 04:15.000
+Are we doing the stand-through in the city of the age?
+
+04:15.000 --> 04:17.000
+Yes, two days ago.
+
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+One side to the receiver.
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+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+04:33.000 --> 04:38.000
+This is Kigo, biological, high resistance, low noise, information brief brought to you.
+
+04:38.000 --> 04:40.000
+High biologists don't understand.
+
+04:40.000 --> 04:45.000
+It's the 1st of October, 2020.
+
+04:45.000 --> 04:54.000
+They are still slowly fighting our way out of this wet paper bag of a spectrum of debate.
+
+04:55.000 --> 05:00.000
+It's taken a while, though, because a lot of people have been deceived.
+
+05:00.000 --> 05:09.000
+A lot of people have been deceived by an illusion of consensus created by people on the internet and on TV.
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+05:09.000 --> 05:13.000
+All with the idea of misleading the young.
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+And that's the spell we've got to break.
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+That's where we've got to take this, and that's how we've got to think about it.
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+We've got to go back to things we've known for decades, if not generations.
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+Make sure that this history is not lost.
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+And the way to get it back is to take it from these charlatans, that's correct.
+
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+We must take back power from these charlatans.
+
+05:47.000 --> 05:52.000
+Because the brick wall is visible at the back of the theater.
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+It's only a question of what are you going to do about it now?
+
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+What are you going to do about it now?
+
+06:05.000 --> 06:10.000
+What if I was to tell you there was no spread in New York City that infectious clones were the only real threat
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+that placebo badges were likely distributed in their transfections in healthy mammals?
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+06:15.000 --> 06:18.000
+It's dumb.
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+06:18.000 --> 06:21.000
+What if I was to tell you the protocols were murder?
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+06:21.000 --> 06:27.000
+The gain of function is a mythology in that this Scooby-Doo mystery is actually a real thing.
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+And that the players are just spectacularly committed to lies.
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+Wouldn't that make a lot more sense?
+
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+A lot simpler than some complex idea about adding nucleic acids to a chain of other nucleic acids
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+and then suddenly it's endowed with the ability to disrupt an entire planet?
+
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+Because that's really the story we've been told, right?
+
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+Is that a DNA molecule created in a laboratory is able to disrupt the economy and cultures
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+and health systems of a planet?
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+Are you listening to this?
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+07:16.000 --> 07:18.000
+Are you hearing this?
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+We are being told that a combination, yeah, get out of here, Captain.
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+A combination of amino acids, sorry, my bad.
+
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+A combination of nucleic acids in a ribonucleic acid chain is capable of creating a bioweapon
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+that if released could disrupt the social and economic framework of an entire species
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+which up until that point was doing just fine.
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+I mean, that's really a Star Trek-level story that they've told us.
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+It's a weapon that's as Kim.com said when he was alive with Andrew Huff or whoever it was
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+that he was talking to, that it's much better than a nuclear weapon.
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+I mean, you can kill billions of people. This is a planet-wide power.
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+It's the biological equivalent to a Death Star.
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+Only you don't destroy the real estate.
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+I mean, we are talking dream-team-level biology here.
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+And so it's a spectacular narrative that needs disruption.
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+Sorry for that audio cut being so drastically quick there, right back to the crickets.
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+Don't take the bait on TV and social media. It is getting quite hectic out there.
+
+08:51.000 --> 08:56.000
+That's because the Scooby-Doo is starting to fall apart on the inside
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+and they're starting to understand that people are starting to really get it,
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+that they've been lied to.
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+And that's really enough for most people, right? Because they've had this gut feeling for a long time.
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+They've had all these anecdotal things that just don't add up in their head.
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+And so if you give them this pretty easy to understand explanation
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+with a combination of power and money and comfort and any other number of things
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+like prestige among your peers, lots of people do stupid stuff.
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+And in this case, you know, they've worked on this for a couple of decades.
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+And some of the people that are involved in it probably really don't understand how bad it is.
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+But it's bad because we've been lied to for a very long time about the pandemic potential of coronaviruses
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+and with good reason because once this mythology is settled in,
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+then this combination of patents and products can be used to control us for the next decade or decade and a half.
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+Unlike any time in history, patents have come to market without, like in the bio-text sphere,
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+without elaborate time frame needed for research and development and testing and approval.
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+Instead, they've been brought to market en masse under the pretext of an emergency
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+and because they've been so widely distributed and accepted as working,
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+most of these patents are probably going to go on forward.
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+These products are going to be gone forward, maybe in new versions.
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+But nevertheless, you're going to have testing.
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+You're going to have these products that are going to be going forward
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+that are going to be testing for other things using the same methodologies.
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+We're going to have mRNA shots with lipid nanoparticles for other targets,
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+and so this whole collection of new ideas and their sort of legal control exerted on the market
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+by setting a sort of industry standard for what's coming in the future,
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+and then using the pandemic to leverage these technologies into place
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+without this normal extended regulatory hoops to jump through all this other stuff.
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+Now, a couple of that in with the fact that during the deployment of this,
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+there were probably lots of different people producing different formulations,
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+and so with careful record-keeping, the best formulations, the best methodologies
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+could be kept track of, could be noted, and moving forward,
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+perhaps the widespread devastation could be reduced,
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+and this all goes along well with people who are just selling the product,
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+just selling, just pushing, and with the full belief that this stuff works,
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+kind of like Theranos.
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+When in reality, the people that actually understand the biology
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+are first and foremost concerned with the idea of the transfection
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+such a long-lived animal as a human, it's just not really a viable technology
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+because of the cascade of possibilities that exist in a long-lived animal
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+and the cascade of possibilities that exist in an animal,
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+yeah, well, in an animal as complex as a human,
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+and I'm not really sure how to codify exactly how complex we are,
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+but suffice it to say that it's easier to make a genetic knockout mouse
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+than it is to make a genetic knockout rat genetically modified monkeys
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+are even harder to make, and it is the complexity of the animal,
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+and the brain, and the immune system, and everything.
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+As you go up the evolutionary ladder, and as you get longer lifespans,
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+it seems in many of these mammals that in order for that pattern integrity
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+to sustain itself for that long, you either need to have a very slow metabolism
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+like a reptile, or if you're going to be high metabolism like a mammal,
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+then you're going to have to have enzymes and homeostatic mechanisms
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+that are far beyond that required in a mouse where generationally,
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+it doesn't matter if they get cancer.
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+And so this is really the crux also of understanding the danger
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+of a lot of these applications, which appear to work in mice,
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+appear to work in an animal model.
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+In an animal model where the animal is not evaluated for its long-term health,
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+is an evaluated for subtle pains and aches and all these things
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+that a child or a teenager or an adult would, of course,
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+be aware of, complain about, and experience.
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+How do you go about evaluating the side effects of transfection
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+in an animal model for whom the only outward signs are tumors or death?
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+So this is really the sort of extraordinary jump that we've made at this point,
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+all under the pretense that this is a gain of function virus,
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+most likely leaked from a laboratory, maybe even on purpose.
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+And so at least they tried something, at least we got lucky,
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+and some of the shots worked, or some of the people were protected,
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+or some of the people got antibodies.
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+And it's these people who have misled us.
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+And as they've misled us, they've misled us about very specific things,
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+which have led us down this path of figuring it out.
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+And that's the part that gets me the most frustrated,
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+is that we've been misled to think that we are figuring it out,
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+and I'm one of those people who dedicated a year and a half of my life
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+to trying to spread the message of this is what we've got to figure out.
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+We've got to figure out who did this, where it came from.
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+It's very important.
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+And a couple times I decided that it wasn't important where it came from
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+because of the biology that they were telling us.
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+And a couple times I became convinced by other people that no,
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+maybe it is really important to figure it out.
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+In the end, I've come to the conclusion that there isn't anything to figure out.
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+And in fact, it's that urge to figure it out, which was the trap,
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+that they tried to suck everyone into.
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+And if you didn't get sucked into it, that's fine.
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+You were most likely going to believe it was natural and didn't want to get sucked into it
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+was a scary discussion.
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+But if you did get sucked into it, it was almost inevitable that you would come
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+to the conclusion that this was a lab leak.
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+The only question of whether or not it was a lab leak of a natural virus
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+from a bad cave in the Mojang province of China,
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+or whether it was a genetically altered or some kind of chimeric virus
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+or a virus with a genetically altered spike protein
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+with inserts from HIV that was released inadvertently in a Wuhan laboratory
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+or maybe brought to the market in Wuhan.
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+And so this is the story that people have been figuring out for the last three years.
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+I've been trying to figure that out.
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+You are forced to accept the faith of the Scooby-Doo episode.
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+And the faith of the Scooby-Doo episode is there's a novel virus.
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+We had to shut down.
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+My goodness, thank goodness we did.
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+And although we had no idea what to do about it,
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+we had no idea what medicines would work.
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+Warp speed brought about a mRNA vaccine
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+that saved the day, that saved millions of lives,
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+and that, you know, the adenovirus ones, they didn't work so well
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+because people got some clots, so they pulled those off the market.
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+And we saw that they lied about where this virus came from
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+and those lies seemed to reveal the same thing
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+that that leaked diffuse proposal seems to reveal,
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+and that is that the United States couldn't make it here
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+because the laws were changed and the regulations were changed
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+and so they shipped this over to China
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+and made this in a lab in China.
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+And the diffuse proposal shows clearly that they were going to insert
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+fear and cleavage sites into lots of different bat viruses
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+and then spray them back into caves.
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+So it makes perfect sense that EcoHealth Alliance did this
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+with USAID money in cooperation with the lab in Wuhan
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+because that's where it leaked from.
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+John Stewart could even figure it out.
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+But then we debated about it and argued about it
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+and insisted that that's ridiculous for two and a half years
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+or a year and a half to get everybody fired up.
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+And in reality, misinformation and disinformation
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+is carrying people to believe things that are untrue.
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+And vaccinations is a perfect example of it.
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+Like any.
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+And so taking an extreme position like this
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+person did is part of this narrative.
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+It gets people, the extreme positions,
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+define the space within which people are arguing
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+and make it much more likely for people to take a central position
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+between those two, whatever extremes they are.
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+And of course then the extreme positions are,
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+on one hand, you have Trudeau and Sam Harris saying,
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+oh my goodness, you people are idiots.
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+And on the other hand, you have people saying that Robert F.
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+Kennedy Jr. and ICANN network and CHD are crazy anti-vaxxers
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+who don't believe in medicine.
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+And so then somewhere in between here,
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+you decide, well, there's obviously a virus.
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+I mean, there are obviously other ones
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+that would be arguing about then if there wasn't a virus.
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+That's the debate.
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+And that's the perfect reason why these people took such extreme positions
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+that made everybody go, oh,
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+it's the exact same effect that Trump has on some people,
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+but they did it with the biology
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+and the absurdity of the certainty
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+that none of these people could have had.
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+Think about this as a couple of weeks ago.
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+A week ago or two weeks ago,
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+so many of us would like to leave it in the past,
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+but cases are once again on the rise.
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+So when will new booster shots roll out?
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+And Thompson asked the CDC director.
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+This summer, most Americans left COVID in the past,
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+gathering together once again, mask-free.
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+But tonight, signs of a COVID resurgence.
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+Across the country, COVID hospitalizations
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+jumped more than 14% in the most recent week.
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+I mean, that could have been, sorry.
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+You know, but that could have been anybody.
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+That could have been anybody on that cart.
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+We don't even know what hospital or where that was
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+or what year that video was shot.
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+I'll play that a little bit. Sorry about that.
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+COVID is making a comeback this summer,
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+so many of us would like to leave it in the past,
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+but cases are once again on the rise.
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+So when will new booster shots roll out?
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+And Thompson asked the CDC director.
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+This summer, most Americans left COVID in the past.
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+This is from about, I think, two weeks ago, or maybe three,
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+but the point is the same.
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+They're running.
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+They've been running up the story again,
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+and they're continuing to do it now.
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+We can look at that.
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+But far lower than pandemic levels,
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+NBC News medical contributor Dr. Kavita Patel.
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+What's behind this uptick in COVID that we're seeing?
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+The main driver of this is a variant that's relatively newer
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+to the scene, EG5.
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+It's easier to give and get, so that makes it kind of easier
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+to pass along.
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+It's been almost a year since the last COVID booster came out.
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+CDC director Dr. Mandy Cohen.
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+The new COVID booster is expected to be approved by the FDA,
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+and then we will make recommendations from the CDC
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+probably by the second or third week of September.
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+Will it protect against this new strain?
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+Yes.
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+The booster is tailored to what we are seeing circulating now.
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+Critics say the federal government is behind once again.
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+People knew there was going to be a COVID resurgence,
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+so why don't we have a booster today?
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+Why do we have to wait until next month?
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+The way we go about doing our, just like we do with our flu shots,
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+right, we make sure that we're looking at the ways
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+in which the virus changed.
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+They look at and evaluate that.
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+The FDA is doing its work.
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+We likely will see this as an annual COVID shot,
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+just like the flu shot.
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+Just in time for Paul, when we'll also face RSV.
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+Can you take the flu shot, the COVID booster and the RSV vaccine
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+all at once?
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+So for flu and COVID, yes, RSV again is only available for older adults.
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+That's one where I'd say talk to your doctor about what's right for you.
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+So until the new COVID booster comes, get prepared,
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+stock up on at home test.
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+They do cover that new strain.
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+Keep a mask handy in case you're in a crowded place,
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+and most of all, get your shots.
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+COVID flu and RSV all by Halloween to give yourself
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+your best chance of staying healthy.
+
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+So she said it right there, right?
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+She told everybody you get all of your shots.
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+No age, no nothing.
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+Don't see your doctor.
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+Just get all your shots like you're a, I don't know,
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+a dog going to a pound or something.
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+It's impressive.
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+The way that they're pushing it now, have a mask in case you're in
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+crowded position.
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+I mean, it's impressive.
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+And this is 2023.
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+This isn't a year ago or something like that.
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+Either the COVID never went away.
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+All right.
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+And thank you.
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+That's pretty scary.
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+Thanks for watching.
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+Are you?
+
+23:27.000 --> 23:30.000
+So here's, here's Sam Harris, what I was talking about.
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+Dial up the, the deadliness of the pathogen.
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+You know, give us something like, you know, airborne Ebola.
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+Now the reason why, oops, darn it, I'm a little, little weak on the
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+trigger here tonight.
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+You know, but.
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+So he says, he says, dial up the, the deadliness of the pathogen.
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+You know, give us something like, you know, airborne Ebola.
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+Airborne Ebola.
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+So we heard, um, Robert Malone talk about airborne Ebola with
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+even Hatfield, we heard, um, I've heard actually also, uh, who's
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+the guy from Minnesota, um, Ulster home has also talked about
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+airborne Ebola and I'm sure I actually have heard someone else say
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+something like airborne Ebola.
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+So you can almost be sure at some point that, uh, that's going to
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+come into the story.
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+It's, it's ridiculous for him to have mentioned it, but maybe just
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+because he listens to those podcasts too.
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+I don't know.
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+So his, uh, man, I'm really blowing it with this because my
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+head's in the way.
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+So in this video, the interesting thing about what Sam says is that
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+he says, if everything was perfect or if this was super dangerous,
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+then nobody would be able to, uh, object to taking vaccines.
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+And it's really just like saying, you know, if, if we could implant a
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+chip in your head that was the size of a human hair and was
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+completely inert, guaranteed not to hurt you, but could make you
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+super smart, uh, and, and live for a hundred years, there would be
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+nobody on the earth who wouldn't take it, especially if it did
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+only cost 50 cents.
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+Yeah.
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+Okay.
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+You're right about all.
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+They were right about that.
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+If you, if you had a little chip the size of a human hair that you
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+could implant on somebody's head that didn't have to go in the head
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+that could make somebody super smart and it only cost 50 cents,
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+then you would be crazy not to have one.
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+Yes.
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+That's so what?
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+That, that, what does that even mean?
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+And so he says, well, you know, if there's a airborne Ebola that's
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+65% deadly or you have super safe vaccines, then there'll be no
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+excuse not to take them.
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+Okay.
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+So what if intramuscular injection of any combination of
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+substances in order to ignore, uh, augment the immune system is
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+dumb?
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+What if you just look at how the immune system is arranged and
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+look at how it operates and realize that you need to interact
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+with that a barrier and that we need to reformulate and rethink
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+our attempting to vaccinate and then really make choices about
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+and, and with what and against what we vaccinate.
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+And, and I think this is really the issue here because a lot of
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+money is made.
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+A lot of guaranteed money is made.
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+And it's a, you know, it's something that people don't want to
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+lose just like monopolies on antibodies or something that a lot
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+of people didn't want to lose.
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+But now that they're gone, anybody that wants to make antibodies can
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+probably make them as long as they got good enough lawyers, they can
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+make whatever they want now.
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+And that's probably part of what's happening here.
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+So in this case, you're just going to hear Sam Harris talk like an
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+absolute moron.
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+But again, what is the point?
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+The point is to take this extreme position so that all of us feel
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+very natural taking a position in between his and the other extreme.
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+And as long as the narrative control mechanism makes it very
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+easy for people who are kind of passively looking to see what the
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+other end of the, of the spectrum is, you're trapped.
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+As soon as you see crazy people over here at anti-vaxxers on one side
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+and on the other side, you see crazy people like Sam Harris.
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+You're trapped in between them.
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+You got no power.
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+It's no problem at all.
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+You'll take a digital ID and digital currency when the time comes.
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+Jobged up.
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+And we need to be on the outside of that spectrum.
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+We need to be on the outside of that spectrum where we understand that
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+the biology that keeps people there is nonsense.
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+The people, the biology that he's going to talk about right now is
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+completely mythological.
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+And the biology that is described disingenuously about the people
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+who are anti-vaxx is also, it's not plausible.
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+It's crazy.
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+And so you try to create this trap that's based on two really crazy
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+positions you can't take anyway so that you take this one in between.
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+You know, if you don't let trans kids be trans kids and you're a,
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+you hate kids or something like that.
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+It's a ridiculous, it's a ridiculous position to take.
+
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+But these ridiculous positions create this, create these spaces of debate
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+that are hypothetical and real to the people inside of them,
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+but ridiculous on their face.
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+They, to keep and get us to argue about this,
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+this, what he talks about is ridiculous.
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+But that's his job.
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+And I'm taking a lot of time because I really want to make this point that
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+it's not always the position that these people take.
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+It's where they shine the flashlight.
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+And if there's enough space over there for the flashlight to go all the way over
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+to another cavern, and it's a cavern that doesn't lead out,
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+then why not, that's why they say why not shine my flashlight over there?
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+And so he's going to shine his flashlight way over there where there's
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+airborne Ebola and it's killing 50% of the kids and listen to this.
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+And bodies of kids are piling up in the street shining his light over
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+that hypothetical cavern over there and making us walk over there and explore it.
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+Now, I'm not suggesting making us go over there and explore it.
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+But what I'm saying is, is that having this person promoted on the Internet,
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+getting attention, people listening to him, is his words going through people's heads
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+and occupying one of those 39,000 thoughts that they have every day.
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+And that's been going on for decades.
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+And so this extreme position doesn't seem as extreme as it sounds to us
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+because there are people out there who think exactly like Sam.
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+And if you read these comments, you will see that lots of people think like him.
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+Obviously, I don't, but it's important to hear how extreme this position is.
+
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+Oh boy, I'm still failing miserably at directing my own show today.
+
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+Horrible.
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+Come on, really?
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+This is like flunky town here.
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+But dial up the deadliness of the pathogen.
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+Give us something like airborne Ebola that incubates for a month.
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+31:30.000 --> 31:33.000
+You don't know you have it, and you're what you walk around spreading it,
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+and it's got a 75% fatality rate, and it's mostly killing kids.
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+No one gets to make that choice anymore.
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+I mean, then literally the cops come in and vaccinate you.
+
+31:45.000 --> 31:50.000
+Now, notice one of the things that he extended there very much longer than
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+even the ridiculous stories that we were told was the asymptomatic spread of the virus.
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+It incubates for a month where you spread the virus and you don't know you're spreading it.
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+That part of the mythology, the fact that he even has it in there, in my mind,
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+already tells you that this is a planted story because he's reinforcing asymptomatic spread
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+even with his dumbassery.
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+And so when people hear this and share it on social media, they're not even aware of the fact
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+that Sam Harris' dumbassery is still reinforcing asymptomatic spread,
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+and you just think that asymptomatic spread for a month would be ridiculous.
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+That's crazy biology.
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+But asymptomatic spread for a week with COVID is fine, right?
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+32:43.000 --> 32:46.000
+No.
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+It's not right.
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+But that's the magic spell that happens even when people take the ridiculous positions
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+that Trudeau does and that Sam does.
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+Listen carefully, see if you can find other examples of that where the mythology is reinforced
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+even by his ridiculousness.
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+25% fatality rate, and it's mostly that incubates for a month.
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+33:12.000 --> 33:16.000
+You don't know you have it and you're what you walk around spreading it, and it's got
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+a 75% fatality rate, and it's mostly killing kids.
+
+33:21.000 --> 33:23.000
+No one gets to make that choice anymore.
+
+33:23.000 --> 33:28.000
+I mean, then literally the cops come in and vaccinate you.
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+And I would say that all of us would agree to that.
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+It's pretty funny because he purports to be so smart, but imagine what he just said.
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+It's a 75% fatality rate, but it incubates for a month and you can spread it.
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+33:46.000 --> 33:51.000
+So after a month, where is it?
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+33:51.000 --> 33:53.000
+Is it everywhere?
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+Once it gets on an airplane, right?
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+33:54.000 --> 33:59.000
+I mean, how many times did it have to get on an airplane in a month?
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+Is it everywhere?
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+Isn't every like 75% of the people dead are infected already by the end of the one?
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+What scenario is that where warps speed in nine months gets us anywhere?
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+Warps speed in nine weeks.
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+34:14.000 --> 34:16.000
+I mean, it's just, it's silly talk, right?
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+34:16.000 --> 34:24.000
+But again, what I'm trying to say is that what Sam Harris is reinforcing is how wide
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+the potential is that an RNA molecule could go anywhere from infecting millions of people
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+in three years and killing millions, or it could incubate for a month and spread without
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+symptoms and also kill 75% of the people it infects.
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+34:48.000 --> 34:58.000
+And so the hypothetical parameter space that a virus can occupy has just been expanded greatly
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+by Sam Harris' dumbassery.
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+He's reinforced the idea that asymptomatic spread is possible by giving you a ridiculous
+
+35:11.000 --> 35:13.000
+scenario of asymptomatic spread.
+
+35:13.000 --> 35:18.000
+But then nonetheless, if you argue with him about it, even in your head subconsciously,
+
+35:18.000 --> 35:23.000
+you're accepting the existence of that principle.
+
+35:23.000 --> 35:29.000
+And that goes the same with the lethality of the virus being 75%.
+
+35:29.000 --> 35:34.000
+And the consequences of that and the potential of that and how would that work?
+
+35:34.000 --> 35:40.000
+That an RNA molecule can be 75% lethal to those mammals exposed to it?
+
+35:40.000 --> 35:46.000
+What kind of weakness would be built into our immune system if that was the case?
+
+35:46.000 --> 35:54.000
+What kind of diabolical, sinister, synthetic thing would be able to do that?
+
+35:54.000 --> 36:00.000
+Just think about that, the absurdity of it, and yet he's very happy to spew that out.
+
+36:00.000 --> 36:05.000
+Why? Because it pushes this narrative faith down the road.
+
+36:05.000 --> 36:13.000
+If you don't accept the existence of viruses and you accept that they can be released and go around the world,
+
+36:13.000 --> 36:19.000
+and the only debate is how bad can they really be, then you're ruleable.
+
+36:19.000 --> 36:25.000
+Your kids will be ruleable by this mythology because they just have to tell you a scarier story next time.
+
+36:25.000 --> 36:29.000
+They just have to turn the screws a little tighter next time because you've already accepted
+
+36:29.000 --> 36:32.000
+that the boogeyman is there.
+
+36:32.000 --> 36:37.000
+And that's not that there are no viruses, it's that viruses can't pandemic.
+
+36:37.000 --> 36:44.000
+RNA molecules don't do this, not even when they're really nicely coded.
+
+36:44.000 --> 36:48.000
+Let's keep listening to his absurdity because it's important to learn from it.
+
+36:48.000 --> 36:53.000
+The moment, again, that you turn up the lethality on the pathogen,
+
+36:53.000 --> 36:58.000
+you turn up the effectiveness of the vaccine, you turn down the risk of the vaccine,
+
+36:58.000 --> 37:05.000
+give me a truly safe vaccine where there's not even one documented case of vaccine injury, right?
+
+37:05.000 --> 37:11.000
+So then you just have to be completely crazy to be worried about being vaccinated.
+
+37:11.000 --> 37:17.000
+So what's interesting about this position is then you have to almost be crazy to be worried about vaccination.
+
+37:17.000 --> 37:25.000
+So then if there are people who are vaccine injured and it's not an insignificant number of people,
+
+37:25.000 --> 37:29.000
+then you're not so crazy to be worried about it.
+
+37:29.000 --> 37:32.000
+And so in a way, he sort of slips up here, right?
+
+37:32.000 --> 37:36.000
+He kind of looks like a dipshit if you think about it.
+
+37:36.000 --> 37:42.000
+But again, it's the absurdity of it that's important so that no matter who talks about it,
+
+37:42.000 --> 37:49.000
+no matter who discusses it, whether this ball gets thrown to Tim Poole, he can say dumb stuff about it.
+
+37:49.000 --> 37:51.000
+The narrative will never be questioned.
+
+37:51.000 --> 37:53.000
+This ball can be tossed to Brett Weinstein.
+
+37:53.000 --> 37:56.000
+Brett Weinstein can say, boy, it's too bad.
+
+37:56.000 --> 37:59.000
+My friend Sam Harris is such a moron now.
+
+37:59.000 --> 38:01.000
+He's really brainwashed.
+
+38:01.000 --> 38:04.000
+And the narrative will never be questioned there.
+
+38:04.000 --> 38:06.000
+Either they're all on the faith.
+
+38:06.000 --> 38:08.000
+The ball can be thrown to someone like Sam Cedar.
+
+38:08.000 --> 38:13.000
+And he can whine even more about how Sam Harris gets picked on all the time.
+
+38:13.000 --> 38:15.000
+This makes perfect sense to me.
+
+38:16.000 --> 38:25.000
+And so the entire time this conversation of him that getting made fun of is actually a tool
+
+38:25.000 --> 38:30.000
+for all these other little people on the internet to amplify the same ideas
+
+38:30.000 --> 38:37.000
+and to talk about what these ideas mean or don't mean, just like I'm doing except
+
+38:37.000 --> 38:43.000
+they don't reveal the fact that this keeps you on the faith that there was a novel virus.
+
+38:43.000 --> 38:44.000
+We had to do something.
+
+38:44.000 --> 38:45.000
+mRNA did something.
+
+38:45.000 --> 38:50.000
+And it was gain a function so it could come again.
+
+38:50.000 --> 39:00.000
+I'm trying to explain to you why absurd behavior like this can exist and can be useful for them.
+
+39:00.000 --> 39:09.000
+Because this gets clicks, this gets listens, this gets complaints, this gets retweets, this gets quoted.
+
+39:09.000 --> 39:12.000
+And so doing, you're solving the mystery.
+
+39:12.000 --> 39:14.000
+You're in the argument.
+
+39:14.000 --> 39:20.000
+You're buying the premise that there are viruses that they can go around the world.
+
+39:20.000 --> 39:29.000
+It's only a question of how many people die or who's vulnerable, who's got the antibodies and who doesn't.
+
+39:29.000 --> 39:31.000
+And it might be about mandating stuff.
+
+39:31.000 --> 39:36.000
+Maybe you don't like mandating, but he's just saying if it's really dangerous and things work really well,
+
+39:36.000 --> 39:39.000
+then what's wrong with mandates?
+
+39:39.000 --> 39:47.000
+And once again, you're trapped.
+
+39:47.000 --> 39:53.000
+And so you've got to be really careful not to get trapped in this Scooby-Doo because if you do,
+
+39:53.000 --> 39:58.000
+then very quickly they're going to change the way you think about the rest of the way a respiratory disease develops
+
+39:58.000 --> 39:59.000
+and what causes it.
+
+39:59.000 --> 40:04.000
+You're going to be very quickly bamboozled in not thinking about all cause mortality anymore.
+
+40:04.000 --> 40:12.000
+You're going to be very quickly bamboozled into thinking about antibodies and not the actual way that your immune system works.
+
+40:12.000 --> 40:16.000
+And with regard to immunization and vaccination, they'll be the same thing.
+
+40:16.000 --> 40:21.000
+You're going to be bamboozled into thinking that mRNA is not bad in principle.
+
+40:21.000 --> 40:23.000
+That's their goal.
+
+40:23.000 --> 40:29.000
+You may have seen this video in Japan that are investigating the effects.
+
+40:29.000 --> 40:34.000
+Tonight we're getting to you guys.
+
+40:35.280 --> 40:40.000
+I will be here in 1.35 days.
+
+40:40.000 --> 40:44.000
+I'll talk to a few guys about the settings.
+
+40:44.000 --> 40:48.000
+The settings we've experienced are very quickly done.
+
+40:48.000 --> 40:51.000
+When you look at all of theallel seminars we're going to use for immunization.
+
+40:51.000 --> 40:55.000
+So just think about it carefully.
+
+40:55.000 --> 41:02.760
+Now, of course, this is kind of a fringy group, and so it's not clear to me how much traction this
+
+41:02.760 --> 41:08.760
+is really getting a mainstream Japan. Maybe we can find out from Kevin McCarran if he's covering
+
+41:08.760 --> 41:13.240
+any of this. Maybe somebody can let me know in the chat. But it does seem they're starting to
+
+41:13.240 --> 41:19.320
+realize a little too late that they were told to do something they shouldn't have been told to do.
+
+41:19.960 --> 41:25.880
+This, of course, has happened all around the world. And so it'll be interesting to see how that
+
+41:25.880 --> 41:32.200
+all rolls out again. These things, of course, allowed all of these other bad things to happen,
+
+41:32.200 --> 41:38.040
+and that's also part of the Scooby-Doo because they're not talking about how many people have
+
+41:38.040 --> 41:43.720
+been damaged by Remdesivir. There are currently two suits that I've been made aware of. One,
+
+41:43.720 --> 41:50.600
+which has to do with glass being in the Remdesivir preparation. And another one has to do with kidney
+
+41:51.640 --> 41:55.480
+malfunction, not being listed in the possible side effects of Remdesivir.
+
+41:57.560 --> 42:03.960
+But none of the suits are really going after the idea that Remdesivir is not appropriate for
+
+42:03.960 --> 42:10.520
+anything. The Remdesivir shouldn't have been given to anyone or anything like that. So I'm not
+
+42:10.520 --> 42:17.080
+really sure if those suits are going to do anything for everyone. But again, nobody's really
+
+42:17.080 --> 42:24.200
+trying to solve this. Where did this order to not use antibiotics come from? How widespread was
+
+42:24.200 --> 42:29.640
+it around the United States? Where was Remdesivir used and how widespread was it applied? Is it
+
+42:29.640 --> 42:36.440
+still being applied now and why? How many people were ventilated and never came out of their vent?
+
+42:37.080 --> 42:43.400
+We got to try and figure some of this stuff out, but right now we're not really trying to
+
+42:43.400 --> 42:48.520
+figure it out. That's the point. And again, they're not talking about certain things. That's how you
+
+42:48.520 --> 42:55.000
+get kept on the Scooby-Doo. If you don't talk about PCR and you're not talking about masking and
+
+42:55.000 --> 42:59.960
+lockdown and spread the lack of spread, if you're not talking about all this list,
+
+43:00.760 --> 43:06.840
+pretty much daily as part of your explanation for fifth-generation warfare,
+
+43:06.840 --> 43:12.040
+then you're not really explaining what fifth-generation warfare is all about. It's about
+
+43:12.040 --> 43:18.920
+creating monsters. It's about creating Scooby-Doo's so that the people think they're figuring stuff
+
+43:18.920 --> 43:23.400
+out and that people are getting caught and that the bad guys are going to jail
+
+43:23.720 --> 43:33.640
+and slowly but surely that Scooby-Doo thing is starting to change to like, you know,
+
+43:34.200 --> 43:42.040
+oh, they're using directed energy weapons to burn the shore of Maui and they're blowing up
+
+43:42.040 --> 43:49.080
+chemical trains in Ohio and they're polluting the waters and they're doing all this stuff because
+
+43:49.080 --> 43:53.000
+they're going to ruin all this stuff because they want us to run out of all of our stuff and
+
+43:54.040 --> 44:02.760
+maybe all of these things are true but in reality, in reality, the way that we check out is this
+
+44:03.960 --> 44:09.480
+because once we get rid of this public health thing, once that thing is all gone and we root
+
+44:09.480 --> 44:16.760
+that out of our system, most of the rot will be exposed. Most of the rotten people, most of the
+
+44:16.840 --> 44:23.400
+rotten programs, most of the rotten impotuses inside of that bureaucracy will be exposed
+
+44:24.440 --> 44:28.200
+and they want us to think about these other things. They want us to be worried about this other
+
+44:28.200 --> 44:35.960
+stuff but it's primarily our need to rein in our public health, the Department of Homeland Security,
+
+44:36.760 --> 44:42.120
+control our borders, get back control of our country again but definitely get back control
+
+44:42.120 --> 44:47.800
+of our biology because if we keep debating about viruses and we keep debating about
+
+44:48.360 --> 44:53.880
+gain of function and we keep debating about this stuff until we're done debating it,
+
+44:54.440 --> 45:01.160
+then all of these things will be out of our control by then. That's their plan even as they
+
+45:01.160 --> 45:05.080
+point to the who and say, see the who is doing it, the who's doing it. No, anybody could step
+
+45:05.080 --> 45:10.920
+out of the who whenever we wanted to. They want you to believe that if the who signed some papers
+
+45:11.000 --> 45:16.040
+or we signed some papers, it's like signing in blood and Satan is sitting at the table so once
+
+45:16.040 --> 45:23.720
+you do that, it's over. And I refuse to believe that that's the way the who is or the sepe is or
+
+45:23.720 --> 45:29.640
+the wef is. If we can get our act together as a country and just decide that we're going to lead
+
+45:29.640 --> 45:38.120
+the way out and we're going to try and figure out the out of our fiscal destructive position
+
+45:38.120 --> 45:43.800
+that we're in. Maybe there is no way out of it but goodness knows we need to extract some of the
+
+45:43.800 --> 45:51.720
+money that's been stolen from us from the oligarchs that stole it from us. We need to correct this
+
+45:51.720 --> 45:57.000
+wrong. We need to correct this wrong because there's, we don't know what's going on anymore.
+
+45:57.960 --> 46:04.680
+The average person on the street doesn't know what's going on anymore. Everything is corrupted,
+
+46:04.680 --> 46:13.640
+everything is a show. All the world's a stage and they lied to us about this pandemic and we need
+
+46:13.640 --> 46:22.680
+people to understand this maybe this year. Didn't I have it here? Didn't it? Oh yeah, sorry. So,
+
+46:22.680 --> 46:26.360
+you know, this is the way I'm going to I'm going to keep telling everybody to say it.
+
+46:27.960 --> 46:33.160
+And let's go on to the let's go on to the video. What's going on here? Why was the video not here?
+
+46:34.040 --> 46:37.480
+Sorry, I'm going to skip ahead here and see if I go there. Sorry.
+
+46:39.880 --> 46:41.880
+Here we go.
+
+46:52.760 --> 47:00.200
+And Philip Buckholt. So, this is a guy who I think confirmed a lot of the analysis that was done by
+
+47:00.280 --> 47:07.880
+Dr. Kevin McKernan. I shouldn't say Dr. Kevin McKernan because he didn't get his doctorate,
+
+47:07.880 --> 47:11.400
+but what difference does it make? He's earned his doctorate. So,
+
+47:13.720 --> 47:23.880
+Kevin McKernan, the guy who found the DNA in the vaccine shots that he was sent. It's interesting
+
+47:23.880 --> 47:30.120
+to note that the story of how he got the vaccines that he tested and found the DNA
+
+47:30.120 --> 47:40.440
+plasmid in has varied. The original story that I heard twice was that for an experiment that he
+
+47:40.440 --> 47:52.280
+was doing for his cannabis genetics company, he needed a polyA RNA control. And if you know
+
+47:52.360 --> 47:57.480
+anything about RNA, you know that if you wanted to get taken up by the ribosome, it needs to have
+
+47:57.480 --> 48:09.480
+a polyA tail for some reason. And so he needed a control and an anonymous person sent him
+
+48:10.120 --> 48:17.480
+vaccine miles in the mail. And that was very curious. He used them as a control and just because
+
+48:17.480 --> 48:24.040
+he used them as a control, they were also therefore in the sequencing reaction, you see.
+
+48:24.840 --> 48:30.360
+So the story is that he didn't even mean to sequence the vaccine. It's just that he got the
+
+48:30.360 --> 48:37.960
+vaccine and he was using it for a polyA RNA control. And then because it was already in there, it got
+
+48:38.040 --> 48:49.000
+sequenced. And when he sequenced it, he noticed that there wasn't just the spike protein RNA in
+
+48:49.000 --> 48:57.400
+there, but he noticed an SV40 promoter in that that led him to realize that it was DNA in there,
+
+48:57.400 --> 49:02.920
+I believe, could be wrong. He could have found DNA some other way and then look for something that
+
+49:03.000 --> 49:07.960
+he expected by being there like an easy one like that. I'm not sure exactly what direction it went.
+
+49:07.960 --> 49:13.480
+So let's listen to how he confirmed this. He's a pretty good guy. I think this is like 43 minutes,
+
+49:13.480 --> 49:18.360
+so I'm going to speed it up just a little. He's a good speaker though, so there's no reason to speed
+
+49:18.360 --> 49:28.600
+it up too much just to make it peppy. So a little bit of what am I doing here? For those of you
+
+49:28.600 --> 49:34.360
+who don't know me, my name is Philip McCall. I have a PhD in biochemistry, molecular biology.
+
+49:35.400 --> 49:39.400
+I'm a cancer gene jock. Basically, I do cancer genomics research at the University of South Carolina.
+
+49:39.960 --> 49:44.040
+And what that means is that I'm kind of an expert on all the ways that the human genome can get
+
+49:44.040 --> 49:48.120
+fussed with during your lifetime and which of those things cause cancer and which ones don't.
+
+49:48.120 --> 49:53.480
+Okay. So technically, that means that I'm very, very skilled in the art of DNA sequencing.
+
+49:53.480 --> 49:56.040
+Okay, I can figure out the sequence of things that I didn't know what I was looking for.
+
+49:56.840 --> 50:00.680
+And I'm also pretty good when I say I, I mean, the people in my laboratory, you're not going to
+
+50:00.680 --> 50:04.600
+hear their names, but there's a group of people that do this excellent work. We're really good at
+
+50:05.640 --> 50:09.960
+detecting foreign pieces of DNA in places where they're not supposed to be, even if they're low
+
+50:09.960 --> 50:17.480
+levels. And we use those skills during the pandemic to, we invented the COVID test that many of you
+
+50:17.480 --> 50:21.320
+did a spit test. Okay, that came out of my lab because we were really good at that kind of stuff.
+
+50:21.320 --> 50:28.360
+And so I've earned a fair amount of respect in the state of South Carolina and in this body because
+
+50:28.360 --> 50:32.120
+we did a ton of COVID testing in the middle of the night when people were afraid and we told them,
+
+50:32.120 --> 50:36.840
+no, you don't have COVID in your home or yes, you do. So my qualifications to comment on this are
+
+50:36.840 --> 50:39.720
+both technical and kind of relational in the state of South Carolina.
+
+50:45.080 --> 50:48.920
+It leads me to believe that he might be a very interesting person to talk to because he said
+
+50:48.920 --> 50:55.400
+that he was testing for COVID, which means very likely he designed his own PCR test for it, which
+
+50:55.400 --> 51:01.480
+is cool. Because a lot of the people that were in academic biology at the time, we're all saying
+
+51:01.480 --> 51:06.440
+that, yeah, we could all do this on our benches. And then we'd save all this time waiting for these
+
+51:06.440 --> 51:13.480
+tests to be released. We could just do it. And the government definitely didn't want that to happen.
+
+51:14.280 --> 51:19.240
+I'll cut to a very narrow theme here, but it does touch on lots of these regulatory issues.
+
+51:19.240 --> 51:23.800
+And I'll leave it to you to expand on those if you want to. I'll try to stay in this narrow lane
+
+51:24.600 --> 51:29.880
+of some problems in the Pfizer vaccine as a case study for places in which regulatory oversight
+
+51:29.880 --> 51:35.720
+could be improved. Alright, so first of all, let me say that my interpretation of the literature is
+
+51:35.720 --> 51:40.680
+that the Pfizer vaccine did a pretty good job of keeping people from dying, but it did a terrible
+
+51:40.680 --> 51:46.360
+job of stopping the pandemic. The early publications showed that it stopped infection,
+
+51:46.360 --> 51:50.040
+but that only lasted for like a month. Could you pull the mic a little closer to you,
+
+51:50.040 --> 51:53.240
+staff's telling me having trouble getting you on the recording? Okay, thank you.
+
+51:54.440 --> 51:58.520
+In my professional evaluation of the literature, the Pfizer vaccine did a pretty good job of keeping
+
+51:58.520 --> 52:03.640
+people out of the cemetery, but it sucked at stopping the pandemic. And it was the best of
+
+52:03.720 --> 52:10.520
+lucky options that we had. And I still believe that it was deployed mostly in good faith,
+
+52:11.080 --> 52:16.040
+but there were a lot of shortcuts taken because the house was on fire and we could do a better
+
+52:16.040 --> 52:19.400
+job next time from the lessons that we're going to learn here. That's my own personal view of this,
+
+52:20.120 --> 52:25.160
+but I'm also my philosophical bent here is, I'm sure many of you've heard of Occam's razor,
+
+52:25.160 --> 52:28.520
+right? Choose the simplest of explanations. Well, there's another one called Hanlon's razor,
+
+52:28.520 --> 52:32.280
+which is never a tribute malice to that which can be better explained by incompetence. And so,
+
+52:32.280 --> 52:36.120
+I'm trying to be gracious here in many circumstances. There could be malice underneath,
+
+52:36.120 --> 52:40.120
+but I'm trying to see just incompetence to be gracious. So the Pfizer.
+
+52:41.320 --> 52:50.120
+So it's important to point out that for reasons beyond me, he thinks that after reviewing the
+
+52:50.120 --> 52:57.240
+literature and his professional opinion, the mRNA kept people alive, kept people out of the hospital,
+
+52:57.240 --> 53:03.560
+kept people out of the grave. And there's no evidence for that in Denny Rancor's data,
+
+53:03.560 --> 53:10.520
+none at all. Not only is there none at all, but he probably had access to it because this is like,
+
+53:10.520 --> 53:18.360
+you know, a month ago. So it's absurd to say that in his public, you know, he's a pharmacist.
+
+53:18.360 --> 53:22.120
+He says it himself. He's not an epidemiologist. It's, you know, I'm sure he's smart.
+
+53:22.920 --> 53:28.840
+But where's your data? If you're going to say this, kept people alive is a very big claim
+
+53:31.160 --> 53:37.640
+that it didn't really stop infection for very long. I mean, it was deployed in good faith
+
+53:38.360 --> 53:45.480
+after 45 minutes of design consideration. And all it was rushed. We could do it better next time.
+
+53:45.560 --> 53:52.680
+Is this any? Is there anything here that even comes close to going off script?
+
+53:54.440 --> 54:01.240
+Because I don't hear it. So far, there's a virus. It's spreading around the world like wildfire
+
+54:01.240 --> 54:07.480
+even now. And we had to do something and we rushed it, but the mRNA kept people out of the grave.
+
+54:08.200 --> 54:17.720
+A vaccine is contaminated with plasmid DNA. It's not just mRNA. It's got bits of DNA in it.
+
+54:17.720 --> 54:23.320
+This DNA is the DNA vector that was used as the template for the in vitro transcription reaction
+
+54:23.320 --> 54:28.680
+when they made the mRNA. I know this is true because I sequenced it in my own lab. The vials of
+
+54:28.680 --> 54:32.440
+Pfizer vaccine that were given out here in Columbia, one of my colleagues was in charge of that
+
+54:32.440 --> 54:37.000
+vaccination program in the College of Pharmacy. And for reasons that I still don't understand,
+
+54:37.000 --> 54:41.080
+he kept every single vial. So I got a whole freezer full of the empty vials. Well, the empty
+
+54:41.080 --> 54:44.600
+vials have a little tiny bit in the bottom of them. He gave them all to me and I looked at them.
+
+54:44.600 --> 54:48.600
+We had two batches that were given out here in Columbia. And I checked these two batches
+
+54:48.600 --> 54:53.800
+and I checked them by sequencing. And I sequenced all the DNA that was in the vaccine. And I can
+
+54:53.800 --> 54:58.600
+see what's in there. And it's surprising that there's any DNA in there. And you can kind of work out
+
+54:58.600 --> 55:03.560
+what it is and how it got there. And I'm kind of alarmed about the possible consequences of this,
+
+55:03.560 --> 55:08.120
+both in terms of human health and biology, but you should be alarmed about the regulatory
+
+55:08.120 --> 55:14.600
+process that allowed it to get there. So this DNA, in my view, it could be causing some of the
+
+55:14.600 --> 55:18.920
+rare but serious side effects like death from cardiac arrest. There's a lot of cases now of
+
+55:18.920 --> 55:24.440
+people having suspicious death after vaccine. It's hard to prove what caused it is just, you know,
+
+55:24.440 --> 55:33.960
+temporally associated. And this DNA is a plausible mechanism. Okay. This DNA can and likely will
+
+55:33.960 --> 55:39.000
+integrate into the genomic DNA of cells that got transfected with the vaccine mix. This is just
+
+55:39.000 --> 55:42.680
+the way it works. We do this in the lab all the time. We take pieces of DNA, we mix them up with a
+
+55:42.680 --> 55:47.880
+lipid complex like the Pfizer vaccine is in, we pour it onto cells and a lot of it gets into the
+
+55:47.880 --> 55:53.240
+cells and a lot of it gets into the DNA of those cells. And that's called transformation. And if
+
+55:53.240 --> 56:00.040
+you do it with with an RNA, it's called transfection. And you should say that.
+
+56:00.920 --> 56:05.800
+Teach everybody, make it plain and simple. We know all this works. This is how we do it.
+
+56:06.600 --> 56:11.160
+These are the terms. They should have told you that the adenovirus was a transformation
+
+56:12.040 --> 56:18.200
+and the lipid nanoparticle with the mRNA and it was a transfection. It becomes a permanent fixture
+
+56:18.200 --> 56:24.040
+of the cell. It's not just a temporary thing. It is in that cell and all of its progeny from now
+
+56:24.040 --> 56:29.560
+on forevermore on in. So that's why I'm kind of alarmed about this DNA being in the vaccine.
+
+56:29.560 --> 56:34.520
+It's different from RNA because it can be permanent. This is a real hazard for genome
+
+56:34.520 --> 56:39.640
+modification of long-lived somatic cells like stem cells. And it could cause theoretically.
+
+56:39.640 --> 56:44.440
+This is all a theoretical concern, but it's pretty reasonable based on solid molecular biology
+
+56:44.520 --> 56:49.080
+that it could cause a sustained autoimmunetact or that tissue. It's also a very real theoretical
+
+56:49.080 --> 56:53.800
+risk of future cancer in some people. Depending on where in the genome this foreign piece of DNA
+
+56:53.800 --> 56:58.440
+lands, it can interrupt a tumor suppressor or activate an oncogene. I think it'll be rare,
+
+56:58.440 --> 57:01.720
+but I think the risk is not zero and it may be high enough that we are to figure out if this
+
+57:01.720 --> 57:07.320
+is happening or not. And again, the autoimmunity thing is not my wheelhouse. I'm not an immunologist,
+
+57:07.320 --> 57:11.560
+but the cancer risk is. That's my bag. I know this is a thing and it is a possibility.
+
+57:12.360 --> 57:18.600
+Okay, a little nerdy science here at the center. Okay, so I'm just going to hit this off at the
+
+57:18.600 --> 57:27.880
+past while I'm going to turn the page soon. He said DNA contamination could cause the cardiac
+
+57:27.880 --> 57:34.440
+arrest, the deaths. It could be integrated into cells. It could cause the autoimmune response to
+
+57:34.440 --> 57:40.920
+those tissues. It could cause cancer in those tissues by interrupting tumor suppressors, etc.
+
+57:41.880 --> 57:49.800
+Now, what I want you to see here is that I don't think there's any reason to think that a
+
+57:50.680 --> 57:58.680
+codon optimized chemically altered pseudo uridine optimized, whatever you want to call it, RNA
+
+57:59.320 --> 58:09.400
+packaged in liposomes and injected in the muscle could be discounted as being the cause of this
+
+58:09.480 --> 58:17.560
+as well. But here we have a guy listing everything that we think the mRNA is doing and more
+
+58:18.440 --> 58:24.120
+and saying that the DNA could explain all of these things, which means what?
+
+58:25.960 --> 58:29.320
+Which means if we hadn't rushed it, the RNA could be great.
+
+58:30.680 --> 58:33.800
+Like what a great technology it would have been if we wouldn't have blown it.
+
+58:34.760 --> 58:40.040
+Be very careful, ladies and gentlemen, because it is very enticing to think that we have another
+
+58:40.040 --> 58:48.280
+ally here now. Great. He's on our team. The DNA is a contaminant. It's a story, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+58:48.280 --> 58:55.160
+The DNA is a contaminant. The DNA is a contaminant is one of the reasons why they knew this was
+
+58:55.160 --> 59:01.160
+not a therapy that was ready for mainstream, that was ready for healthy humans. Can you hear me?
+
+59:02.120 --> 59:08.440
+That's the reality. The fact of the matter is, is that these molecular biologists all around the
+
+59:08.440 --> 59:15.240
+world know that you can't separate completely the plasmid from the RNA that you generate from it.
+
+59:15.880 --> 59:21.240
+You can try really hard. You can digest the DNA, but it doesn't get it all out of there.
+
+59:22.600 --> 59:26.520
+And especially when you go from nanograms to kilograms of production.
+
+59:26.840 --> 59:36.920
+Just think breaking bad, small batch blue crystals, giant batch of blue crystals. It's different.
+
+59:38.920 --> 59:41.400
+It's part of what made that story a little bit me.
+
+59:44.040 --> 59:51.080
+But we are really talking about something very special here because it's not wrong. He is not
+
+59:51.160 --> 59:58.600
+wrong to be excited about there being DNA in there. But it's not unexpected. What's
+
+59:59.560 --> 01:00:05.560
+what's unexpected is that people are so silly as to think that this isn't part of the panoply
+
+01:00:05.560 --> 01:00:12.200
+of reasons why this would never work. But it's not the most important one. The most important one is,
+
+01:00:13.080 --> 01:00:20.360
+as I've said many times before, the most important one is that...
+
+01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:33.480
+Oops. Now what did I do? Where to go? What the hell? Boy, I'm really, I'm really failing you guys.
+
+01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:39.480
+I really apologize. That's really terrible. I was supposed to go here. And so you've really
+
+01:00:39.560 --> 01:00:45.000
+got to say this. You've got to say the transfection isn't immunization. That you can't augment the
+
+01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:49.560
+immune system from the inside. That's what I think we should be saying all the time.
+
+01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:52.840
+Okay. Let's listen more.
+
+01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:58.520
+Told dogma of molecular biology is that DNA gets transcribed into RNA. Okay. And then RNA
+
+01:00:58.520 --> 01:01:04.040
+gets translated into protein. This is just how life runs. Why does this matter? Well,
+
+01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:09.480
+for the purposes of this discussion, DNA is a long-lived information storage device.
+
+01:01:10.120 --> 01:01:13.480
+Okay. What you were born with, you're going to die with and have some of your kids. DNA lasts
+
+01:01:13.480 --> 01:01:18.520
+for hundreds of thousands of years, and it can last for generations if you pass it on to your kids.
+
+01:01:18.520 --> 01:01:24.840
+Right? So alterations to the DNA, they stick around. RNA, by its nature, is temporary. It
+
+01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:30.360
+doesn't last. And that feature of RNA was part of the sales pitch for the vaccine. The
+
+01:01:30.440 --> 01:01:33.640
+pseudo-urettine was supposed to make the RNA last a little bit longer. But still, it's a
+
+01:01:33.640 --> 01:01:39.400
+transient phenomenon. We're talking hours to days. Okay. And then proteins. Once proteins are made,
+
+01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:43.960
+they also don't last forever. They last for hours to days. But something that makes its way into
+
+01:01:43.960 --> 01:01:49.160
+DNA has the potential to lack. See, so he's already also saying that RNA is only around for hours
+
+01:01:49.160 --> 01:01:55.720
+to days. But we know that's not true with this, this altered RNA. We don't know how long it stays
+
+01:01:55.720 --> 01:02:02.520
+around. The crazy stories tell us it's around for as long as they've looked for it. And the other
+
+01:02:02.520 --> 01:02:08.280
+end of the crazy story is that it's only around for days. And so again, they're sculpting this
+
+01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:14.120
+narrative. But the narrative really is that the RNAs find the RNA is temporary. The RNA is not
+
+01:02:14.120 --> 01:02:18.680
+dangerous relative to DNA. The DNA is much worse. Now there's DNA and they're all bets are off,
+
+01:02:18.680 --> 01:02:25.000
+blah, blah, blah, blah. But we said this was going to happen like a year and a half ago,
+
+01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:28.920
+maybe even more than that, maybe even two years ago now, we said this was going to happen.
+
+01:02:30.120 --> 01:02:40.280
+That they were going to blame contamination, incompleteness, contaminated RNA, bad lipid
+
+01:02:40.280 --> 01:02:45.800
+nanoparticle, bad spike protein, they were going to blame something so that they could say but
+
+01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:50.360
+the transfection were great. Best for a very long time, maybe a lifetime.
+
+01:02:51.240 --> 01:02:56.120
+So this is a picture of the sequencing read that the sequencing run that I did in the lab
+
+01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:00.040
+from a couple of batches of the Pfizer vaccine. And all those little bitty lines here are the
+
+01:03:00.040 --> 01:03:04.200
+little tiny pieces of DNA that are in the vaccine. They don't belong there. They're just not part
+
+01:03:04.200 --> 01:03:08.120
+of the sales picture of the marketing campaign. And they're there. There's a lot of them. This
+
+01:03:08.120 --> 01:03:11.480
+little graph here in the middle is the size distribution that peaks around 100 base pairs,
+
+01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:17.080
+120 base pairs. So the DNA pieces that just dawned on me, do you think that they can convince
+
+01:03:17.160 --> 01:03:22.680
+everybody that took a shot to get sequenced to track this down? It says underneath here,
+
+01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:27.880
+we should sequence a few hundred people and find out if this DNA ever got into the human genome.
+
+01:03:29.640 --> 01:03:34.600
+Could they trick people into thinking that, yeah, you should definitely get your gene sequence.
+
+01:03:34.600 --> 01:03:39.400
+You should get your genome sequenced right away. We'll pay for it for free because we're trying
+
+01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:44.360
+to track down this possible integration. Boy, that would be a funny one, wouldn't it?
+
+01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:49.640
+They're in the vaccine are short little pieces, 100, 120. There's some that are about 500 base
+
+01:03:49.640 --> 01:03:55.560
+pairs, a few that are even 5,000. But most of them are around 100 base pairs. Why is this important?
+
+01:03:56.600 --> 01:04:03.720
+Because the probability of a DNA piece of DNA integrating into the human genome is unrelated to
+
+01:04:03.720 --> 01:04:09.000
+its size. So your genome risk is just a function of how many particles there are. So it's like,
+
+01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:13.080
+you know, if you shoot a shotgun at a washboard, if you shoot a slug, you have some probability
+
+01:04:13.080 --> 01:04:16.360
+of hitting it and they shoot buckshot. You have a bigger probability of hitting it with some shot,
+
+01:04:16.360 --> 01:04:20.040
+right? All these little pieces of DNA that are in the vaccine are analogous to buckshot.
+
+01:04:21.240 --> 01:04:27.960
+You have many, many thousands of opportunities to modify a cell of a vaccinated person.
+
+01:04:29.240 --> 01:04:32.680
+The pieces are very small because during the process, they chopped them up to try to make
+
+01:04:32.680 --> 01:04:36.840
+them go away. But they actually increased the hazard of genome modification in the process.
+
+01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:45.880
+That's how this got here. In my view, somebody should go about sequencing DNA samples from stem
+
+01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:51.480
+cells of people who are vaccinated and find out if this theoretical risk has happened or not.
+
+01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:57.240
+I think this is a real serious oversight, regulatory oversight that happened at the federal level,
+
+01:04:57.240 --> 01:05:02.280
+and somebody should force this to happen somewhere. Dr. McArthur, are you capable of doing that?
+
+01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:06.760
+Yeah, we do that kind of thing. But in order for it to be trustworthy by the public,
+
+01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:10.600
+this has to be done by lots of people. I'll talk to you more about that later.
+
+01:05:10.600 --> 01:05:14.200
+Yeah, this is our deal. This is why I know this should have been done at the federal level.
+
+01:05:17.240 --> 01:05:22.280
+So we took all these pieces of DNA and we used them to glue together what the source DNA must have
+
+01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:26.600
+been. This is kind of, again, this is what we do in the lab all the time. And all these little
+
+01:05:26.600 --> 01:05:30.680
+little red and green lines here, these are all in a bit, little pieces of DNA. This must have
+
+01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:35.160
+100,000 pieces of DNA in this sequencing run. And you can put them all back together and see
+
+01:05:36.040 --> 01:05:40.520
+what they came from is this circle over here. It's a plasmid that you can go shopping online
+
+01:05:40.520 --> 01:05:46.440
+to buy from Agilent. And it's clear that Pfizer took this plasmid and then they cloned spike into
+
+01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:53.080
+it. And they used it in a process called in vitro transcription translation, in vitro transcription,
+
+01:05:53.080 --> 01:05:58.280
+where you feed an RNA polymerase, this plasmid, and it makes a whole bunch of mRNA copies for you.
+
+01:05:59.160 --> 01:06:02.760
+And then you take this mRNA, you mix it with the lipid nanoparticle transfection reagent,
+
+01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:06.600
+and now you've got your mRNA vaccine, but they failed to get the DNA out before they did.
+
+01:06:06.600 --> 01:06:11.800
+So you understand that basically he's describing the exact same way that pieces of an infectious
+
+01:06:11.800 --> 01:06:15.480
+clone would be made before they're ligated together to produce the whole RNA.
+
+01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:26.760
+It's the same plasmid DNA, grown at quantity in a bacteria, and then produced or mixed together
+
+01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:33.080
+with a master mix transcription translation enzyme, and then you get your RNA. So listen to
+
+01:06:33.080 --> 01:06:40.520
+him say it again, because it's nice to hear him explain how you take a plasmid DNA, which could
+
+01:06:40.520 --> 01:06:47.720
+easily code for a coronavirus. In this case, it's coding for the coronavirus spike, and you make a
+
+01:06:47.720 --> 01:06:54.840
+lot of mRNA after you grow the plasmid in translation in vitro transcription, where you feed an RNA
+
+01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:57.800
+polymerase, this plasmid, and it makes a whole bunch of mRNA copies for you.
+
+01:06:58.680 --> 01:07:02.280
+And then you take this mRNA, you mix it with the lipid nanoparticle transfection reagent,
+
+01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:06.040
+and now you've got your mRNA vaccine, but they failed to get the DNA out before they did this.
+
+01:07:06.040 --> 01:07:10.040
+So these little pieces, they did make some effort to chop it up, so all these little pieces of
+
+01:07:10.040 --> 01:07:14.520
+the plasmid got packaged in with the RNA. That's clear as day what happened just from the forensics
+
+01:07:14.520 --> 01:07:22.280
+of looking at the DNA sequencing. A little bit of a regulatory note here. The way you do RNA
+
+01:07:22.280 --> 01:07:27.720
+transcription, in vitro transcription reactions, you have to give it a DNA template. And you can
+
+01:07:27.720 --> 01:07:32.360
+give it a DNA template that is just a synthetic piece of DNA that is only the instructions to make
+
+01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:37.880
+the RNA, and that's what was done for getting the emergency use authorization and the clinical
+
+01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:42.360
+trial. That's called process one, if you look up that kind of stuff. They made a PCR product of
+
+01:07:42.360 --> 01:07:45.720
+just the bits that they wanted, and then they did the in vitro transcription, made a bunch of
+
+01:07:45.720 --> 01:07:51.480
+RNA of that. There was no plasmid DNA to contaminate the stuff that was used for the trial. But that
+
+01:07:51.560 --> 01:07:56.600
+making that PCR product doesn't scale the way. So you see he's talking very clearly about
+
+01:07:57.160 --> 01:08:01.560
+what Vincent Rancin Yellow talked about at the beginning of the pandemic, how fascinating it was
+
+01:08:02.600 --> 01:08:09.080
+that they were scaling up from nanograms on a bench to kilograms in a vat. And this is what
+
+01:08:09.080 --> 01:08:15.400
+he's describing the original batches in the trials and the data that he just defended, by the way.
+
+01:08:16.360 --> 01:08:23.320
+The product that was injected into those people and was likely distributed on movie sets,
+
+01:08:23.320 --> 01:08:28.760
+it distributed anywhere where they didn't want to hurt people or wanted to be sure they were
+
+01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:36.840
+giving them the best product. It would have been done that way. They would have made the DNA sequence
+
+01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:44.840
+synthetically, so that there was none of this plasmid stuff. There was no possibility of
+
+01:08:44.840 --> 01:08:50.520
+contamination in that way, and then they would just do it all synthetically. You can do that
+
+01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:56.920
+for nanograms, you can do that for treating one cancer patient, but you can't do it for treating
+
+01:08:56.920 --> 01:09:03.720
+a bit, making a billion shots. Think about the scale there that they purport to have done,
+
+01:09:04.280 --> 01:09:09.240
+because they're just so badass. They went from being able to make small batch,
+
+01:09:10.360 --> 01:09:17.640
+you know, really microbrewery type stuff, like a single cappuccino for a really sick guy with a
+
+01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:26.920
+very unique genetic condition to making that cappuccino for everyone. It's just crazy.
+
+01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:34.920
+But like I said, and like other people I think I see pointed out, he did defend the trial data,
+
+01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:43.480
+he didn't question it at all. And so he's clearly not questioning where we are or where we went.
+
+01:09:43.480 --> 01:09:47.720
+I also saw it pointed out in the chat that he was actually not only was he testing, but he was
+
+01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:55.000
+testing a lot of people and helped make a few products for testing. Probably still own some
+
+01:09:55.080 --> 01:10:00.280
+patents on testing methodologies and those will go forward, maybe even in a patent pool
+
+01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:06.600
+distributed by the who. So keep in mind, ladies and gentlemen, what's happening here.
+
+01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:14.760
+It is very likely that there is a patent pool of countermeasures that include diagnostics,
+
+01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:22.600
+that include vaccines and the technologies used to make them, bottle them, create them.
+
+01:10:25.240 --> 01:10:33.960
+And countless other patents that are bundled together and are being distributed by world
+
+01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:39.880
+governments to set a new industry standard on all of these things that they will then leverage
+
+01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:49.800
+as medical industry standards to enforce testing, to enforce the continued existence of COVID,
+
+01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:56.600
+to enforce the continued funding and pushing of shots.
+
+01:10:59.720 --> 01:11:05.800
+This is not going away. This was the plan all along. This was a shift, a permanent shift that
+
+01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:10.920
+if we don't stop it, it will be permanent. And in a way, we don't need to stop it. We just need
+
+01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:17.160
+to step away from it because if we don't need to replace that system with something else,
+
+01:11:17.160 --> 01:11:21.240
+right, we just need to get out of it. All right, let's listen. Sorry.
+
+01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:26.280
+That was necessary to vaccinate the whole world. So a cheaper way to scale up the production of
+
+01:11:26.280 --> 01:11:30.600
+this template is to clone that PCR product into this plasma vector, put the plasma vector into
+
+01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:33.880
+bacteria and then you can grow up big vats of the bacteria. They make a lot of the plasma DNA
+
+01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:38.600
+for you and use that plasma DNA as the template to drive this transcription reaction to make your
+
+01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:45.640
+RNA. And that's where how the contamination ended up in the production batches, even though it was
+
+01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:51.320
+not in the stuff that was used for the authorization trials. So I know it's a little bit of nerdy
+
+01:11:51.320 --> 01:11:56.600
+science, but it has regulatory implications for you guys. So it's interesting because there's a
+
+01:11:56.600 --> 01:12:02.120
+new paper out that analyzes that data and shows what Steve Kirsch was kind of pushing a long time
+
+01:12:02.120 --> 01:12:07.960
+ago, which is that more people were killed in the control group after on masking or sorry,
+
+01:12:07.960 --> 01:12:11.720
+in the experimental group that got the shots versus the people who didn't get the shots.
+
+01:12:12.200 --> 01:12:19.640
+And there is a new paper out. It's a it's a pre-print that will probably cover this week in a journal club
+
+01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:26.200
+as we try to get into the swing of things again. And I think this will be really important to
+
+01:12:26.200 --> 01:12:31.080
+acknowledge that this person is not really talking about that at all. In fact, glossing over that
+
+01:12:31.640 --> 01:12:38.760
+well-known fact that they unblinded the trial. They gave everybody that wanted it in the control
+
+01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:46.200
+group, the transfection. And in that group of people, then a few more people died,
+
+01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:52.840
+which put it at a total of during the study period, 14 people died in the control group.
+
+01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:57.000
+They were unvaccinated and 20 died in the control group.
+
+01:12:59.400 --> 01:13:06.440
+So, you know, they say that's insignificant, but it's definitely not good. And he's glossing over
+
+01:13:06.440 --> 01:13:08.200
+that right now and not saying it at all.
+
+01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:17.160
+We can we can measure the quantity of this stuff pretty easy in the lab. This is we're good at
+
+01:13:17.160 --> 01:13:21.240
+doing this kind of stuff. This is the same we made a little PC, a colleague of mine at MIT made,
+
+01:13:21.240 --> 01:13:27.240
+you know, from who used to work for the Broad Institute at MIT, he made a little PCR test.
+
+01:13:27.240 --> 01:13:31.640
+And we cloned it here. This is similar to the PCR test that you all took for the spit test.
+
+01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:36.360
+Okay, same same idea and same expertise behind it. And we can quantify exactly how much of the
+
+01:13:36.360 --> 01:13:41.640
+stuff is in a vaccine or any other tissue. And, you know, I estimate that there were
+
+01:13:42.280 --> 01:13:46.840
+about 2 billion copies of the one piece that we're looking for in every dose.
+
+01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:51.640
+And if you look back at that map, I showed you where it's all these little the little piece
+
+01:13:51.640 --> 01:13:56.600
+that we're looking for is just that little bit right there. Okay. But if you see 2 billion copies
+
+01:13:56.600 --> 01:14:02.680
+of this, there's about 200 billion of everything else. So what this means is that there's probably
+
+01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:10.840
+about 200 billion pieces of this plasma DNA in each dose of the vaccine. And it's encapsulated
+
+01:14:10.840 --> 01:14:16.360
+in this lipid nanoparticle. So it's ready to be delivered inside the cell. Okay, this is a bad idea.
+
+01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:22.360
+My conclusions from this, we should check a bunch of people.
+
+01:14:25.400 --> 01:14:27.960
+My conclusions from this are actually learn how to run PowerPoint.
+
+01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:35.320
+We should check a bunch of vaccinated people getting tissue samples, especially if we focus
+
+01:14:35.320 --> 01:14:40.600
+on harmed people, but that's not necessary. We could also just focus on regular unharmed people
+
+01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:45.480
+and see if this plasma DNA is integrating into the genomes of any of their stem cells. It leaves
+
+01:14:45.480 --> 01:14:49.880
+a calling card that is there. One of the reasons why I'm focusing on this is because
+
+01:14:50.760 --> 01:14:54.200
+it's kind of different from a lot of the other imagined harms where you can't really prove it.
+
+01:14:54.200 --> 01:14:57.000
+You can be suspicious because of the timing, but you can't really prove it. This one,
+
+01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:03.160
+you can prove it because it leaves a calling card. Okay, now that's really nice, but keep in mind
+
+01:15:03.160 --> 01:15:10.280
+the one general mechanism that we've talked about time and time again, make sure you understand
+
+01:15:10.280 --> 01:15:21.160
+that he's not able to blame this mechanism on the shot, sorry, the DNA. And that mechanism is
+
+01:15:21.160 --> 01:15:28.840
+the mechanism that that Sukhrat Bhakti really codified best. It is the mechanism if I draw
+
+01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:36.120
+the inside of a capillary here, okay, with endothelial cells beating these rectangles,
+
+01:15:36.120 --> 01:15:43.800
+which of course is terrible. And so you have blood flow this way. Then when these cells get
+
+01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:48.520
+transfected and they're very likely to get transfected, because again, these are cells that are
+
+01:15:49.400 --> 01:15:55.080
+are experiencing a lot of local fluid pressure here. And so this is supposed to be where the
+
+01:15:55.080 --> 01:16:00.280
+lipid nanoparticle will come into contact with membrane the most. And of course, the surface
+
+01:16:00.280 --> 01:16:08.680
+area of your capillaries in your body is ginormous. When these cells are expressing spike protein,
+
+01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:17.640
+the first shot, they will be attacked by the immune system and removed. And you hope that the spike
+
+01:16:17.720 --> 01:16:23.240
+protein is presented to the immune system and you develop antibodies to it. And this would be
+
+01:16:23.240 --> 01:16:32.760
+the first shot. The second shot and beyond will give you spike protein down here. And you will
+
+01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:40.040
+have antibodies that stick to it. And those antibodies can bring in a cytotoxic T cell response. They
+
+01:16:40.040 --> 01:16:45.640
+could bring in a a natural killer cell response, a neutrophil response. They could bring in the
+
+01:16:45.640 --> 01:16:51.960
+complement system. And they can also cause complement to cling to the outside of the cell
+
+01:16:51.960 --> 01:17:00.840
+if there's enough spike protein. And that can cause clotting, micro clotting or just playing
+
+01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:08.040
+clotting. And so this general mechanism will occur irrespective of whether the special spike
+
+01:17:08.040 --> 01:17:13.560
+protein is there or whether it's a frog protein or or another membrane bond protein that's not
+
+01:17:13.560 --> 01:17:19.640
+supposed to be there. There's a good chance that transfection into the muscle that leaks out into
+
+01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:27.560
+your into circulation will will transfect endothelial cells and you'll get this possibility for every
+
+01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:33.800
+subsequent exposure to the transfection because it will express that protein again in the presence
+
+01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:40.840
+of those antibodies. That's a very different effect than what we've been talking about with regard
+
+01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:46.120
+with regard to this, what what he's been saying with the DNA. And why is that important just to
+
+01:17:46.120 --> 01:17:54.280
+acknowledge that it's this time when these cells are destroyed that neutrophils will come along,
+
+01:17:55.240 --> 01:18:04.520
+should be neutra, neutra. Is it pH? I think it's pH, right? Neutrophils,
+
+01:18:05.400 --> 01:18:12.200
+something's not compiled there, right? Neutrophils will come along and they destroy things with
+
+01:18:12.200 --> 01:18:21.320
+enzymes. Those enzymes will release. These cells are flexible. These cells contain fibers in them
+
+01:18:21.320 --> 01:18:27.240
+that make them flexible. And when the neutrophils come along to dissolve these guys, they have a
+
+01:18:27.240 --> 01:18:35.240
+very special neutrophil elastase, which is a neutrophil enzyme. Elastase is the enzyme
+
+01:18:36.040 --> 01:18:41.160
+that can destroy some of those fibers. And then those fibers are now floating around
+
+01:18:41.960 --> 01:18:48.680
+and part of this cleanup. And so again, you hope that your cells won't present those
+
+01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:53.560
+self-antigens to T cells and find a T cell that will recognize them. You hope that they're only
+
+01:18:53.560 --> 01:19:01.080
+going to present the S protein. But when those fibers are released and they're building up,
+
+01:19:01.080 --> 01:19:08.520
+they don't necessarily get cleared. And that seems to be these fibrous clots that are found in some
+
+01:19:08.520 --> 01:19:14.200
+of these people that are dead. So it could be that a lot of endothelial cells are being destroyed
+
+01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:23.160
+each shot or on the deadly shot. And that that fibrin that's released when the neutrophil
+
+01:19:23.160 --> 01:19:30.120
+elastase is dissolving endothelial cells is part of that clotting mechanism as well.
+
+01:19:30.120 --> 01:19:36.200
+And so again, this has nothing to do with DNA integration or anything like that because this
+
+01:19:36.200 --> 01:19:45.480
+is just expression of a foreign protein driven by transfection. And so I need, I'm hoping that
+
+01:19:45.480 --> 01:19:54.200
+you can keep in mind how general this is up here, how general this is versus how the DNA is a very
+
+01:19:54.200 --> 01:19:59.400
+it's an interesting thing. I'm no doubt about it and could be devastating and ugly and yucky. But
+
+01:20:00.680 --> 01:20:05.400
+if the DNA integrates into your endothelial cells, your endothelial cells are not going to be passed
+
+01:20:05.400 --> 01:20:11.480
+onto your children. So the real danger would be if it integrated into your gametes, into your
+
+01:20:11.480 --> 01:20:18.360
+eggs or into your sperm. And that's very testable, obviously, especially with sperm,
+
+01:20:19.240 --> 01:20:25.880
+to a certain extent, at least it should be. And it you have all the eggs that you're ever going to
+
+01:20:25.880 --> 01:20:32.680
+have as a woman. So as a girl, so that's extremely terrifying from the perspective of young women
+
+01:20:33.560 --> 01:20:39.480
+being exposed to DNA contamination. So there you have very much dangerous crazy things.
+
+01:20:40.120 --> 01:20:46.280
+But it's important to understand that this mechanism above, which was really best and first described
+
+01:20:46.280 --> 01:20:52.040
+by Sukhir Bhakti is a mechanism that is completely independent of the spike protein being extra
+
+01:20:52.040 --> 01:20:58.200
+toxic, extra dangerous, having any clotting factors coded into it or whatever other magic you want to
+
+01:20:58.200 --> 01:21:05.000
+say, because it doesn't matter what protein you express via transfection. If it's transmembrane
+
+01:21:06.120 --> 01:21:12.600
+and it sticks out and you do it repeatedly, that endothelial cells are going to be the target of
+
+01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:19.400
+this, this clearance, this autoimmunity is potentially there. And also the clotting is always there. The
+
+01:21:19.400 --> 01:21:24.520
+more shots you take, the more possible it is, I think. And we may see that as we move forward
+
+01:21:25.160 --> 01:21:29.000
+as we get people with four or five shots. Who knows?
+
+01:21:34.040 --> 01:21:39.400
+You find it in the stem cells of harmed people. It's equivalent to finding a certain type of lid
+
+01:21:39.400 --> 01:21:43.480
+in someone who is now dead. It's pretty reasonable to assume that that's what caused it.
+
+01:21:44.840 --> 01:21:51.320
+The royal we, meaning you guys should insist that the FDA force Pfizer to get the DNA out of the
+
+01:21:51.320 --> 01:21:57.240
+booster and all future versions of this vaccine. I'm a real fan of this platform. Okay. I think
+
+01:21:57.240 --> 01:22:03.640
+it has the potential to treat cancers. I really believe that this platform is revolutionary and
+
+01:22:03.640 --> 01:22:10.120
+in your lifetime, there will be mRNA vaccines against antigens in your unique cancer. Okay.
+
+01:22:10.120 --> 01:22:14.680
+And but they got to get this problem fixed. Okay. And I right now, I think the financial incentives
+
+01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:19.400
+are too great to just keep on rolling with it. And it's going to take some encouragement to get it
+
+01:22:19.480 --> 01:22:25.640
+out. The regulation that allowed this DNA to be there in the first place. I don't think that this
+
+01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:32.040
+amounts there actually exceed the regulation limits. In some batches, it may. In the two batches that
+
+01:22:32.040 --> 01:22:35.160
+I looked at, one of them, it was just under the limit and one, it was just over the limit. My
+
+01:22:35.160 --> 01:22:38.920
+colleague in Boston has looked at a fair number of other batches. And there's a handful that are
+
+01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:43.400
+super high and there's a handful that are super low. But the fact that there is a regulatory threshold
+
+01:22:43.960 --> 01:22:49.400
+for amount of DNA allowed in the vaccine is a throwback to an era when we were talking about
+
+01:22:49.400 --> 01:22:53.720
+vaccines that were like a recombinant protein that you are a dead virus, you know, attenuated virus
+
+01:22:53.720 --> 01:22:59.560
+produced in CFO cells or something like that. And the DNA that might be in it is naked DNA.
+
+01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:03.800
+And you might have a little bit in the vaccine. That's not a problem because naked DNA gets
+
+01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:07.880
+chewed up immediately upon vaccination. And there's no real mechanism for it to get inside the cells.
+
+01:23:07.880 --> 01:23:12.680
+And they inappropriately applied that regulatory limit to this new kind of vaccine where everything
+
+01:23:12.680 --> 01:23:17.080
+is encapsulated in a slip and nanoparticle is basically packaged in a synthetic virus able
+
+01:23:17.080 --> 01:23:22.040
+to dump its contents into a cell. So I'm thinking Hanlon's razor here. Okay, I don't think there
+
+01:23:22.040 --> 01:23:27.320
+was anything nefarious here. I think it was just kind of a dumb oversight. And it's going to take,
+
+01:23:27.320 --> 01:23:31.480
+because the financial incentives are so great to just, you know, sweep it under the rug and the
+
+01:23:31.480 --> 01:23:34.440
+career incentives of people that approve this are going to be, there's nothing wrong here,
+
+01:23:34.440 --> 01:23:40.120
+you know, it's going to take some encouragement to make people prove that it's okay. But I really
+
+01:23:40.200 --> 01:23:44.680
+believe this was an inappropriate application of an old school regulation to a new kind of
+
+01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:48.440
+vaccine. And who knows, maybe we'll check a bunch of people and we'll find out for sure that this
+
+01:23:48.440 --> 01:23:52.840
+is indeed not a problem. And that will do the public good if we prove that. Mr. Chairman.
+
+01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:59.560
+So that's pretty spectacular. I mean, he's giving them the opportunity to prove that it's
+
+01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:05.320
+not bad. So we could do some papers and publish some stuff and this, this whole rumor could go away.
+
+01:24:06.280 --> 01:24:11.160
+But he believes in this technology and he doesn't want this technology to be ruined or lost.
+
+01:24:12.840 --> 01:24:20.280
+And so tell me you hear it. Tell me you see exactly what I see. A guy who has been interested
+
+01:24:20.280 --> 01:24:25.880
+in the virus since the very beginning. He gave us a number of testing platforms so that we,
+
+01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:30.600
+we definitely had a mystery to solve. And we definitely had bad guys to catch
+
+01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:33.000
+because his tests prove it.
+
+01:24:39.160 --> 01:24:39.480
+Wow.
+
+01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:46.920
+I mean, he said it in spades. It's just, it's crazy. It's just absolutely crazy. I don't know
+
+01:24:46.920 --> 01:24:51.000
+how else to say it. I mean, they're doing exactly what we expected them to do.
+
+01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:58.840
+And it's not even a little bit off right now. And so now the only question is how can we get ahead
+
+01:24:59.800 --> 01:25:05.320
+and stop the dominoes from falling is right now we're right at where it's like we're in a drone
+
+01:25:06.040 --> 01:25:11.960
+and we're watching the dominoes fall and we're following it right as the dominoes hit the next
+
+01:25:11.960 --> 01:25:19.880
+domino. But we're not quite able to stop that one. So the question is how we can leap frog ahead
+
+01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:24.680
+a few dominoes and then knock one out of the way or something so that this whole thing just ends.
+
+01:25:25.480 --> 01:25:28.840
+I think that's really kind of a way we need to think about it.
+
+01:25:30.120 --> 01:25:32.120
+Does that mean we need to teach our children?
+
+01:25:35.400 --> 01:25:38.760
+Does that mean we need to save the children? I think that's what it means.
+
+01:25:40.280 --> 01:25:44.520
+We've got to think farther ahead the next year. That's for sure. We don't need to save the next
+
+01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:54.200
+election. We need to save the next generation. We need to save our kids. We need within the next
+
+01:25:54.200 --> 01:26:03.640
+five years we need a group of kids to go into college not believing this or better yet not going
+
+01:26:03.640 --> 01:26:14.680
+to college. How's that for a big statement? We need to raise a kid's kids not to need to go to college.
+
+01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:20.200
+We need to figure out a way for them to do it without it or do it at another means.
+
+01:26:21.080 --> 01:26:25.880
+Maybe they can all take classes at the Jordan Peterson online university and combine that with
+
+01:26:25.880 --> 01:26:33.880
+Prager and whatever Brett Weinstein's going to do. I don't know what the answers are ladies and
+
+01:26:33.880 --> 01:26:38.200
+gentlemen but I know that we are being bamboozled. We are being fooled and every time somebody new
+
+01:26:38.200 --> 01:26:42.680
+steps up to the mic it seems like they just stay on script. Okay.
+
+01:26:43.400 --> 01:26:45.400
+Thank you.
+
+01:26:46.920 --> 01:26:53.000
+Dr. We appreciate all that you're saying although we don't understand most of what you're saying.
+
+01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:57.000
+Sorry. I have a limited amount of time somewhere down there agreeing a lot so you must have been
+
+01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:04.920
+a chemistry major or something but what is going to help us is to know what you can do like
+
+01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:09.320
+checking a bunch of vaccinated people. Of course that's what I can do right but we
+
+01:27:10.280 --> 01:27:16.600
+are not going to have any authority over the FDA to force Pfizer to do something.
+
+01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:21.560
+I mean that's a federal issue unless you can explain to me how we could do something at a
+
+01:27:21.560 --> 01:27:25.800
+state level you know some of this is going to have to be taken up by our congressmen right.
+
+01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:32.520
+So just whatever your remaining comments are just keep in mind that I understand what we can do
+
+01:27:32.520 --> 01:27:36.280
+and really these technical things you're throwing out as a senator from Greenville's
+
+01:27:36.360 --> 01:27:40.680
+already mentioned we're going to throw right back at you because there's no you're the expert
+
+01:27:40.680 --> 01:27:44.520
+so if someone's going to do this testing I don't know who would find to do it
+
+01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:48.680
+well other than someone like you. I can do it lots of other people can do it. I've had a lot
+
+01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:54.840
+of corners and pharmacists from different states contact me I posted all this on Twitter right
+
+01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:58.760
+and so people will private message me and say I'd like to send you some samples and then they say
+
+01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:03.560
+oops state regulations will not allow our coroner to send any samples for this so there are some
+
+01:28:03.560 --> 01:28:10.360
+policy issues that can the trouble is is if you look for the integration of this DNA and you
+
+01:28:10.360 --> 01:28:16.040
+don't find it what does it mean doesn't mean you didn't look in the right place that you sampled
+
+01:28:16.040 --> 01:28:26.760
+the wrong part of the thigh like what I don't even know what I think this is is again one of these
+
+01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:31.960
+kind of scooby-doo unmaskings where here's the bad guy over here we better solve that puzzle now
+
+01:28:32.840 --> 01:28:37.560
+and it won't get us any farther down the road because we're not questioning the spread of the
+
+01:28:37.560 --> 01:28:43.960
+virus we're not questioning the protocols we're not questioning the biology of transfection at all
+
+01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:50.520
+we're really not questioning anything if we follow this narrative we follow this story we
+
+01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:56.840
+chase this shiny object that none other than Kevin McCurnan put in front of us
+
+01:28:57.160 --> 01:29:03.560
+and he only put it in front of us after I started talking about clones and the scooby-doo
+
+01:29:05.320 --> 01:29:10.200
+and before that everything was great and he was on my stream twice and he was telling me all about
+
+01:29:10.200 --> 01:29:18.120
+how the PCR had had primers that made little dimers and that the RNA was in pure because of
+
+01:29:18.120 --> 01:29:26.680
+the smear on the gel there is a big game of foot ladies and gentlemen and we are
+
+01:29:26.760 --> 01:29:34.920
+very very close to tying the game are you with me are you with me we're very very close to
+
+01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:42.040
+tying this game we've got to keep the pressure up we've got to keep working we've got to keep
+
+01:29:42.040 --> 01:29:49.000
+showing up every day for our family and friends we've got to keep showing up every day for our
+
+01:29:49.080 --> 01:29:57.720
+family and friends and we've got to keep from letting them recite the faith letting them be
+
+01:29:57.720 --> 01:30:05.400
+bamboozled into the faith because it's very easy to be bamboozled and trapped into thinking
+
+01:30:05.400 --> 01:30:12.120
+that one of these tv scenarios is still really not that ridiculous because it fits I mean I was
+
+01:30:12.120 --> 01:30:15.960
+sick you were sick my neighbor was sick so obviously there was something
+
+01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:24.600
+it's a very enticing trap but the conflated background signal is the best explanation the
+
+01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:32.520
+widest net doesn't have to have specifics I'm just very sure that they have absolutely zero data
+
+01:30:32.520 --> 01:30:40.680
+before 2020 about the prevalence of any of these RNA signals they have no idea what these PCR tests
+
+01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:46.200
+would have found in 2019 and how many people would have tested positive without being a
+
+01:30:46.200 --> 01:30:56.360
+symptomatic at all meaning we don't know whether this is noise or not most likely it is most likely
+
+01:30:56.360 --> 01:31:01.320
+it's a signal of noise that they characterized very well before the pandemic so they knew exactly
+
+01:31:01.320 --> 01:31:08.200
+what was there and how to use it do you understand what I'm saying most likely they characterized
+
+01:31:08.200 --> 01:31:12.920
+the noise that was there already a long time ago so that during the pandemic they would know how
+
+01:31:12.920 --> 01:31:19.080
+to use it that's what Nathan Wolf was doing that's what the eco-health alliance was doing
+
+01:31:22.520 --> 01:31:27.160
+characterizing this background so that maybe an endemic coronavirus could be blamed I don't know
+
+01:31:27.160 --> 01:31:35.240
+if that's what the background really is biologically maybe we haven't been able to track coronaviruses
+
+01:31:35.240 --> 01:31:39.800
+before this we can find them if you call it what we do finding them
+
+01:31:41.560 --> 01:31:46.120
+but we can't track and trace them like we claim to suddenly be able to do with this one just because
+
+01:31:46.120 --> 01:31:53.880
+it's so novel protocols were murder and transfection is in medicine it could have been an infectious
+
+01:31:53.880 --> 01:32:00.520
+clone I think an infectious clone is a very good plausible explanation of how a genuine sequence
+
+01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:08.200
+could have genuinely be found using PCR to amplify them even if it's 99 primer pairs you could get a
+
+01:32:08.200 --> 01:32:15.240
+really robust signal across lots of primer pairs if you had seeded the pandemic with an infectious
+
+01:32:15.240 --> 01:32:24.440
+clone and maybe an infectious clone would actually make people have a kind of recognizable suite of
+
+01:32:24.440 --> 01:32:30.760
+symptoms maybe not I don't know but I definitely know if you needed the seeding of a molecular
+
+01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:36.040
+signal that molecular biologists around the world would say holy shit there's a pandemic
+
+01:32:36.040 --> 01:32:44.280
+that's how you do it infectious clone a transfection agent releases another way of saying that because
+
+01:32:44.280 --> 01:32:51.480
+when you spray RNA into people's lungs or put it in their drinking water or or spray it in the air
+
+01:32:51.880 --> 01:33:00.440
+then you're transfecting them so conflated background signals where we are protocols were
+
+01:33:00.440 --> 01:33:06.760
+murder and transfection is not medicine and that holds true to you if you don't believe in viruses
+
+01:33:06.760 --> 01:33:12.120
+but of course that's a really ridiculous statement because viruses are a very tiny fraction of the
+
+01:33:12.120 --> 01:33:19.320
+total signal at that size scale because all of our tissues communicate with signals at that time
+
+01:33:19.400 --> 01:33:26.120
+scale that include DNA and RNA and proteins and all the mammals and all the plants and all the
+
+01:33:26.120 --> 01:33:33.800
+fungi and all the bacteria that we know also communicate with particles, vesicles and other
+
+01:33:35.480 --> 01:33:40.680
+things at that time scale or size scale that are very hard to separate from one another
+
+01:33:42.360 --> 01:33:46.920
+and virology would like you to believe that when they spin stuff down and it's that size in the
+
+01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:51.000
+sucrose gradient the only thing that's there are us only viruses here
+
+01:33:53.080 --> 01:34:00.360
+when in reality they know that that fraction it goes down the farthest in that sucrose gradient
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+01:34:00.920 --> 01:34:09.320
+is full of exosomes full of vesicles full of protein blobs full of things of the same size
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+01:34:09.320 --> 01:34:16.600
+scale not of all of which are these crazy viruses that's what Nathan Wolf was selling as his big
+
+01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:24.600
+thing that he could explore this crazy unknown place and find unknown life forms
+
+01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:31.880
+there's a conflated background signal ladies and gentlemen leak release lies it doesn't even
+
+01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:35.960
+matter because the protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine these people have
+
+01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:41.400
+fooled us into believing that it is medicine they've fooled us into believing that there is a novel
+
+01:34:41.400 --> 01:34:48.600
+virus they fooled us into believing that gain of function is real in order to invert our
+
+01:34:48.600 --> 01:34:53.320
+sovereignty and take it away from our children come on ladies and gentlemen they caused this stuff
+
+01:34:54.920 --> 01:34:56.440
+by inverting the way we think
+
+01:34:59.800 --> 01:35:04.040
+this graph was never shown to us just this one down here in the bottom and they just
+
+01:35:04.040 --> 01:35:09.480
+used the red one that's it went from zero and went up to something and they were just tacking on
+
+01:35:09.480 --> 01:35:16.920
+stuff that they killed people with bad protocols and bad tests if they needed a signal if you need
+
+01:35:16.920 --> 01:35:24.760
+a signal it's a clone that's all you need is a clone
+
+01:35:27.160 --> 01:35:31.720
+i don't know if it's all about the genetic data but it's it's a lot about that and it's about
+
+01:35:31.720 --> 01:35:36.600
+convincing your kids right it's not about you they don't need you your old all your data that's
+
+01:35:36.600 --> 01:35:41.720
+useful is gone they don't want to they can't tell all you got here without the data from before
+
+01:35:42.600 --> 01:35:47.320
+but they've got to convince your kids that when they have kids they should be giving up their data
+
+01:35:48.040 --> 01:35:52.280
+that's what this is about i know it's crazy but that's how they work that's their time frame their
+
+01:35:52.280 --> 01:35:59.000
+time scale their time horizon they've got this plan for a lot farther than you think so if you
+
+01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:06.120
+want to turn this cruise ship around it's going to be a long process we got to get untied we got to
+
+01:36:06.120 --> 01:36:12.280
+get back to the bridge we got to disable the autopilot we got to slow the ship down
+
+01:36:14.280 --> 01:36:21.880
+and then we can start turning the rudder ladies and gentlemen please join me at giga-ohm biological
+
+01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:29.960
+and that's dot com and then giga-ohm dot bio for communications for support thank you very much
+
+01:36:30.040 --> 01:36:36.200
+transfection is not immunization it's the first of october 2023 i never dreamed i would still be
+
+01:36:36.200 --> 01:36:42.040
+using this slide stop all transfections and humans because they are trying to eliminate the control
+
+01:36:42.040 --> 01:36:48.680
+group by any means necessary i never thought i'd be using this slide in 2023 but it's still fully
+
+01:36:48.680 --> 01:36:54.840
+relevant and it will remain relevant until the truth really is out there this has been giga-ohm
+
+01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:59.640
+biological a high resistance low noise information brought to you by a biologist thanks for joining
+
+01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:06.120
+me sorry i was late i'll see you again tomorrow night maybe tomorrow afternoon but tomorrow for
+
+01:37:06.120 --> 01:37:22.040
+sure because we do a show every day here at giga-ohm biological thanks very much
+
+01:37:36.120 --> 01:37:53.160
+so
+
+01:38:06.120 --> 01:38:28.120
+My one wheel has a flat, I was filming today, I got a flat, not so any way, but I think I have a solution, I'm in the mail tomorrow.
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+I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world, I'm going to change my world
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+WEBVTT
+
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+to unfortunately go on another show.
+
+00:02.780 --> 00:05.580
+Dr. Rancourt, it's so nice to meet you.
+
+00:05.580 --> 00:08.860
+Same here, same here, can I call you Peter?
+
+00:08.860 --> 00:11.220
+Sure, thank you, shall we do that?
+
+00:12.720 --> 00:15.960
+Sure, so I thought maybe this would be an opportunity
+
+00:17.400 --> 00:20.560
+to present your recent paper,
+
+00:20.560 --> 00:23.520
+particularly in light of the claim today
+
+00:23.520 --> 00:27.280
+that the Nobel Prize messenger RNA saved
+
+00:27.280 --> 00:29.800
+a minimum of 14 million lives.
+
+00:29.800 --> 00:32.400
+Right, yeah, no, I'd be happy to.
+
+00:32.400 --> 00:34.880
+Did they actually claim that number, Peter?
+
+00:34.880 --> 00:38.160
+14 million, no way.
+
+00:38.160 --> 00:41.760
+Oh my gosh, is that a Nobel announcement
+
+00:41.760 --> 00:43.560
+or some media report or?
+
+00:43.560 --> 00:46.800
+Media report, but they're all following the same script.
+
+00:46.800 --> 00:48.320
+Yeah, there was an article that claimed
+
+00:48.320 --> 00:49.760
+that kind of number, I guess.
+
+00:49.760 --> 00:54.320
+Yeah, it's a 14 to 25 million, if I recall correctly.
+
+00:54.320 --> 00:55.080
+Right, right.
+
+00:55.080 --> 00:57.840
+So I'll just very quickly say the result of our work
+
+00:57.840 --> 01:01.440
+in that regard and then we can interact about it.
+
+01:01.440 --> 01:04.040
+Okay, all right, let's go ahead and hit it.
+
+01:04.040 --> 01:05.880
+Yep.
+
+01:05.880 --> 01:07.240
+You'll go ahead, we're already on.
+
+01:07.240 --> 01:09.080
+I'm not fooling around here.
+
+01:09.080 --> 01:10.960
+You guys are too important for me,
+
+01:10.960 --> 01:13.280
+so I already, you didn't say anything crazy already,
+
+01:13.280 --> 01:15.080
+so go ahead and start, please.
+
+01:15.080 --> 01:16.720
+There you go, we're just starting, okay.
+
+01:16.720 --> 01:19.520
+I am thrilled to be on the program.
+
+01:19.520 --> 01:22.280
+Jay and Dr. Rancourt, thank you so much.
+
+01:22.280 --> 01:24.360
+It's an honor to meet you for the first time.
+
+01:24.360 --> 01:26.960
+Yeah, you know, the world has been very interested
+
+01:26.960 --> 01:31.320
+in your ecological analysis that involved countries
+
+01:31.320 --> 01:33.400
+in the Southern Hemisphere.
+
+01:33.400 --> 01:35.280
+Can you give us a capsule of that,
+
+01:35.280 --> 01:37.680
+of what that paper showed?
+
+01:37.680 --> 01:40.640
+I'd love to, Peter, if I may.
+
+01:41.640 --> 01:44.520
+I'm also thrilled to meet you for the first time,
+
+01:44.520 --> 01:46.340
+even though it's a virtual meeting.
+
+01:46.340 --> 01:49.760
+But here we go, I've been working on all cause mortality
+
+01:49.760 --> 01:51.640
+for a long time.
+
+01:51.640 --> 01:54.400
+Our first paper on the subject was put out
+
+01:54.440 --> 01:57.120
+in June of 2020.
+
+01:57.120 --> 01:59.320
+And in that paper, we said immediately
+
+01:59.320 --> 02:02.760
+that there were hotspots of immediate mortality
+
+02:02.760 --> 02:05.120
+that were synchronous with the announcement
+
+02:05.120 --> 02:08.480
+of the pandemic on the 11th of March, 2020.
+
+02:08.480 --> 02:12.400
+And we said these immediate surges of mortality
+
+02:12.400 --> 02:16.000
+that occur only in hotspots, New York, Northern Italy,
+
+02:16.000 --> 02:18.760
+Madrid, a few places like that, and nowhere else.
+
+02:18.760 --> 02:22.600
+There was nothing like it in 30 of the US states
+
+02:23.360 --> 02:25.800
+that that mortality was inconsistent
+
+02:25.800 --> 02:28.120
+with the spreading respiratory disease.
+
+02:28.120 --> 02:30.760
+It couldn't be that because it was synchronous
+
+02:30.760 --> 02:32.160
+around the world.
+
+02:32.160 --> 02:37.040
+And it was, so it was very granular and synchronous
+
+02:37.040 --> 02:38.880
+and it didn't spread.
+
+02:38.880 --> 02:41.640
+So that was our immediate conclusion
+
+02:41.640 --> 02:45.000
+when we started looking at this all cause mortality back then.
+
+02:45.000 --> 02:46.880
+Well, let me respond to that.
+
+02:46.880 --> 02:49.320
+You know, I was in the thick of it early on
+
+02:49.320 --> 02:51.880
+in the pandemic, you know, trying to innovate
+
+02:51.880 --> 02:55.040
+with ways of helping people.
+
+02:55.040 --> 02:57.160
+But like every other person in America,
+
+02:57.160 --> 03:00.120
+I was watching CNN or any newscast
+
+03:00.120 --> 03:02.960
+and I was watching this mortality meter
+
+03:02.960 --> 03:05.360
+in the upper right-hand part of the screen.
+
+03:05.360 --> 03:08.240
+And let me tell you, when one of my patients dies,
+
+03:09.440 --> 03:11.600
+from the time they die to the time
+
+03:11.600 --> 03:15.480
+I completely finished the death certificate
+
+03:15.480 --> 03:17.320
+and have it registered in the system,
+
+03:17.320 --> 03:18.920
+it's about six weeks.
+
+03:18.920 --> 03:23.920
+So I was wondering how could these instantaneous deaths
+
+03:25.080 --> 03:28.160
+come up on a scoreboard because they each have a six week life?
+
+03:28.160 --> 03:31.120
+Oh, Peter, this is very important.
+
+03:31.120 --> 03:33.000
+We have to be very careful here.
+
+03:33.000 --> 03:35.160
+I'm talking about all cause mortality.
+
+03:35.160 --> 03:38.680
+So that means irrespective of any cause of death
+
+03:38.680 --> 03:40.560
+that anyone might assign.
+
+03:40.560 --> 03:42.080
+In other words, I'm talking about.
+
+03:42.080 --> 03:46.520
+Even when I'm saying the deaths don't get recorded
+
+03:46.560 --> 03:49.600
+until the death certificate is completed.
+
+03:49.600 --> 03:50.440
+Really?
+
+03:50.440 --> 03:53.040
+Yeah, so the idea is there's always a six week.
+
+03:53.040 --> 03:56.080
+No, the databases that I'm working from,
+
+03:56.080 --> 03:58.920
+they actually give you the date of death.
+
+03:58.920 --> 04:03.440
+Now, the certificate might go into the system late,
+
+04:03.440 --> 04:08.440
+but the data is, the actual data is by date of death.
+
+04:09.920 --> 04:11.520
+In other words, sure, there's a lag
+
+04:11.520 --> 04:13.640
+in terms of when you get the certificates in.
+
+04:13.640 --> 04:17.880
+Sometimes there's a lag of as much as a couple of months.
+
+04:17.880 --> 04:22.880
+And so you're updating the mortality data as we go.
+
+04:23.600 --> 04:27.000
+And it's typically a month or two late, you see,
+
+04:27.000 --> 04:30.440
+but then once it goes into the system,
+
+04:30.440 --> 04:32.520
+it's by date of death.
+
+04:32.520 --> 04:35.880
+Right, I know, but even the National Death Index,
+
+04:35.880 --> 04:38.400
+I think runs about six months behind.
+
+04:38.400 --> 04:40.680
+So when deaths occur,
+
+04:40.680 --> 04:44.560
+it's possible that if someone dies in the hospital,
+
+04:44.560 --> 04:47.400
+there may be a more immediate reporting system,
+
+04:47.400 --> 04:50.120
+but most of the time there's no, no, no, but let me explain.
+
+04:50.120 --> 04:51.920
+There's a misunderstanding here.
+
+04:51.920 --> 04:54.480
+See, what I'm talking about is,
+
+04:54.480 --> 04:58.640
+I mean, I'm sitting here in June doing my study, okay?
+
+04:58.640 --> 05:02.400
+And so this is after the 11th of March, 2020.
+
+05:02.400 --> 05:03.320
+No, I understand.
+
+05:03.320 --> 05:05.160
+I'm just telling you real world.
+
+05:05.160 --> 05:07.160
+I'm just wasting the question.
+
+05:07.160 --> 05:11.240
+Real world in March of 2020,
+
+05:11.240 --> 05:13.840
+we were seeing deaths go up every day.
+
+05:14.720 --> 05:15.640
+Yes.
+
+05:15.640 --> 05:16.480
+Okay.
+
+05:16.480 --> 05:20.840
+And it's, I was wondering how in the world
+
+05:20.840 --> 05:25.360
+are those data feeds that simultaneous
+
+05:25.360 --> 05:30.040
+with this lag of a month or two months afterwards?
+
+05:30.040 --> 05:34.400
+Well, you know, in terms of reporting
+
+05:34.400 --> 05:38.880
+so-called COVID deaths in the media or on the TV screens,
+
+05:38.880 --> 05:41.040
+they can be reporting whatever they want,
+
+05:41.040 --> 05:44.880
+but actual official all-cause mortality data
+
+05:44.880 --> 05:48.960
+is the total of deaths for that day in a given jurisdiction.
+
+05:48.960 --> 05:52.080
+So what they might or might not be doing that,
+
+05:52.080 --> 05:54.920
+that pops up on your screen in terms of deaths
+
+05:54.920 --> 05:57.080
+and what those deaths mean, I don't know,
+
+05:57.080 --> 05:59.600
+but I'm working from robust data,
+
+05:59.600 --> 06:03.480
+which is actual all-cause mortality,
+
+06:03.480 --> 06:07.080
+deaths assigned to a given date and it's by day.
+
+06:07.080 --> 06:09.520
+And then some jurisdictions, when they report it,
+
+06:09.520 --> 06:11.240
+they'll give it to you by week.
+
+06:11.240 --> 06:12.640
+Some will give it to you by month
+
+06:12.640 --> 06:14.240
+if it's a smaller jurisdiction
+
+06:14.240 --> 06:15.840
+and they want better statistics,
+
+06:15.840 --> 06:19.280
+but you see it after the fact.
+
+06:19.280 --> 06:21.680
+You have to gather it, collate it,
+
+06:21.680 --> 06:24.440
+and you know up to when it is reliable
+
+06:24.440 --> 06:27.880
+according to the people that are providing the data, you see.
+
+06:27.880 --> 06:30.240
+So up to that date, you've got good data
+
+06:30.240 --> 06:32.080
+and that data never changes
+
+06:32.080 --> 06:33.760
+and that data has been reliable
+
+06:33.760 --> 06:36.880
+since they've been doing this for a hundred years now.
+
+06:36.880 --> 06:39.480
+It's very robust, very reliable data
+
+06:39.480 --> 06:42.760
+and it is collected irrespective of the cause of death.
+
+06:42.760 --> 06:45.640
+So this is just total deaths, okay?
+
+06:45.640 --> 06:49.760
+And then so what you do then is you look at the patterning time
+
+06:49.760 --> 06:51.560
+of those deaths in a given jurisdiction.
+
+06:51.560 --> 06:53.240
+It can be one state in the US,
+
+06:53.240 --> 06:55.760
+it can be the whole country or another country
+
+06:55.760 --> 06:57.800
+and you follow it as a function of time
+
+06:57.800 --> 06:59.760
+and what you will see immediately
+
+06:59.760 --> 07:02.440
+is that in Northern latitude countries,
+
+07:02.440 --> 07:06.320
+it has a seasonal pattern, a very clear seasonal pattern.
+
+07:06.320 --> 07:09.120
+There are always far more deaths in the winter
+
+07:09.120 --> 07:10.480
+than in the summer.
+
+07:10.480 --> 07:13.000
+So there's a winter peak in all cause mortality,
+
+07:13.000 --> 07:14.760
+then you go down to a summer trough
+
+07:14.760 --> 07:17.520
+and this pattern has been known for a hundred years.
+
+07:17.520 --> 07:20.800
+And what's interesting is in the Southern Hemisphere,
+
+07:20.800 --> 07:22.280
+that pattern is reversed
+
+07:22.280 --> 07:24.800
+because they're winters in our summer.
+
+07:24.800 --> 07:27.480
+So they get their maximum of deaths
+
+07:27.480 --> 07:30.600
+in that seasonal pattern during their winter,
+
+07:30.600 --> 07:31.720
+which is our summer.
+
+07:32.840 --> 07:35.000
+And this is a phenomenon that's well known,
+
+07:35.000 --> 07:37.000
+it's basic epidemiology,
+
+07:37.000 --> 07:40.560
+it's been known for a hundred years, it's very striking
+
+07:40.560 --> 07:44.520
+and it's not completely understood exactly why that is, okay?
+
+07:44.520 --> 07:48.920
+There are various models as to why the deaths
+
+07:48.920 --> 07:50.520
+are always higher in the winter,
+
+07:50.520 --> 07:54.280
+including deaths that are related to cardiac problems.
+
+07:54.280 --> 07:56.440
+The only deaths that don't follow that pattern
+
+07:56.440 --> 07:59.880
+are the main tumor type cancer deaths.
+
+07:59.880 --> 08:01.680
+They don't have a seasonal pattern,
+
+08:01.680 --> 08:05.800
+but everything else, the infections, the heart attacks,
+
+08:05.800 --> 08:08.520
+everything that is sensitive to stress, I guess,
+
+08:08.520 --> 08:13.000
+stress induced, they all have a very clear seasonal pattern,
+
+08:13.000 --> 08:15.040
+okay, in terms of mortality.
+
+08:15.040 --> 08:19.280
+And so you know what to expect
+
+08:19.280 --> 08:22.480
+because you have a pattern that you can see for a hundred years
+
+08:22.520 --> 08:25.000
+and you can see it up and down and up and down
+
+08:25.000 --> 08:26.280
+is very regular.
+
+08:26.280 --> 08:29.880
+And then COVID hits and they announce a pandemic,
+
+08:29.880 --> 08:33.120
+they declare a pandemic on the 11th of March 2020
+
+08:33.120 --> 08:36.640
+and you get an immediate surge in that all-cause mortality
+
+08:36.640 --> 08:38.920
+in certain hotspots.
+
+08:38.920 --> 08:43.640
+So only occurring in New York, Northern Italy, Madrid,
+
+08:43.640 --> 08:45.840
+Stockholm, a few places like that,
+
+08:45.840 --> 08:50.640
+very intense, very sharp surges of all-cause mortality
+
+08:50.720 --> 08:52.880
+right after they announced the pandemic.
+
+08:52.880 --> 08:57.120
+So the fact that it is coordinated,
+
+08:57.120 --> 08:59.640
+the fact that the timing of the event
+
+08:59.640 --> 09:01.480
+is related to a political event,
+
+09:01.480 --> 09:03.400
+the announcement of a pandemic
+
+09:03.400 --> 09:06.120
+and that it is synchronous around the world
+
+09:07.600 --> 09:10.040
+and that it's only in those hotspots
+
+09:11.480 --> 09:13.840
+from our perspective,
+
+09:13.840 --> 09:16.960
+this cannot be the spread of a viral respiratory disease
+
+09:16.960 --> 09:20.320
+because it's well known that the time from seeding
+
+09:20.320 --> 09:23.360
+of a new pathogen in a population
+
+09:23.360 --> 09:26.120
+to when you get an actual surge in mortality,
+
+09:26.120 --> 09:28.840
+that time is extremely sensitive to the details
+
+09:28.840 --> 09:31.800
+of the population, of the society,
+
+09:31.800 --> 09:33.600
+of how they contact each other and so on
+
+09:33.600 --> 09:36.560
+and it can vary by months or years even.
+
+09:36.560 --> 09:40.800
+So to have synchronicity like that is impossible
+
+09:40.800 --> 09:42.400
+even with modern airplanes
+
+09:42.400 --> 09:45.760
+because even if you send out flights from the source
+
+09:45.760 --> 09:47.040
+all at the same time,
+
+09:48.040 --> 09:52.400
+then that's the seeding where they land
+
+09:52.400 --> 09:55.960
+but then the time between that original seeding
+
+09:55.960 --> 09:57.960
+to when you'll get a surge in mortality
+
+09:57.960 --> 10:00.960
+is highly dependent on the local circumstances.
+
+10:00.960 --> 10:03.040
+So you can't have synchronicity like that.
+
+10:03.040 --> 10:08.040
+So this was clearly not related to COVID like spread
+
+10:08.200 --> 10:10.400
+or anything like that at the beginning.
+
+10:10.400 --> 10:12.280
+So that was the first thing we noticed
+
+10:12.280 --> 10:15.680
+and then we kept studying all-cause mortality.
+
+10:16.680 --> 10:19.040
+I've written more than 30 papers
+
+10:19.040 --> 10:22.160
+on COVID related things analyzing data and so on.
+
+10:22.160 --> 10:27.160
+And what we find Dr. McCullough is that
+
+10:28.920 --> 10:31.480
+the excess all-cause mortality
+
+10:33.960 --> 10:38.880
+is inconsistent with a viral respiratory spread,
+
+10:38.880 --> 10:40.920
+absolutely inconsistent with it
+
+10:40.920 --> 10:44.400
+because it does not cross borders.
+
+10:44.400 --> 10:46.440
+If you look at European countries
+
+10:46.440 --> 10:48.280
+or states in the United States,
+
+10:48.280 --> 10:50.400
+you can have mortality in one jurisdiction
+
+10:50.400 --> 10:54.280
+and it stops at the border and is not in the other.
+
+10:54.280 --> 10:56.720
+So this mortality at the beginning
+
+10:56.720 --> 11:00.880
+was related to what was being done in those jurisdictions.
+
+11:00.880 --> 11:04.080
+So for example, we wrote a paper with John Johnson
+
+11:04.080 --> 11:06.880
+at Harvard University, we co-authored a paper
+
+11:06.880 --> 11:09.600
+where we showed that when you compare U.S. states
+
+11:09.600 --> 11:11.880
+if you take states that share a border
+
+11:11.880 --> 11:14.160
+and one locked down and the other didn't
+
+11:14.160 --> 11:16.160
+they all cause mortality in the lockdown state
+
+11:16.160 --> 11:17.160
+even though they're very similar
+
+11:17.160 --> 11:19.480
+and they're sharing a border is always higher,
+
+11:19.480 --> 11:23.040
+significantly higher than in the non-lock down state.
+
+11:23.040 --> 11:26.360
+So we're able to, we have a lot of reason
+
+11:26.360 --> 11:29.440
+to come to the very firm conclusion
+
+11:29.440 --> 11:34.160
+that what I believe now is that all of the excess
+
+11:34.160 --> 11:36.000
+all-cause mortality that occurred
+
+11:36.000 --> 11:38.320
+before the vaccines were rolled out
+
+11:38.320 --> 11:40.360
+between when they announced to that time
+
+11:40.360 --> 11:43.480
+is all due to lack of treatment
+
+11:43.480 --> 11:47.040
+and aggressive medical protocols in big hospitals
+
+11:47.040 --> 11:49.480
+and aggressive government measures
+
+11:49.480 --> 11:52.400
+that isolated people and stressed them out
+
+11:52.400 --> 11:54.760
+and including very vulnerable people
+
+11:54.760 --> 11:58.320
+like the 11 million who are disabled
+
+11:58.320 --> 12:01.200
+by serious mental illness in the United States,
+
+12:01.200 --> 12:02.080
+that kind of thing.
+
+12:02.080 --> 12:05.480
+So when you look at the age structure of this mortality
+
+12:05.480 --> 12:07.840
+and its geographical distribution
+
+12:07.840 --> 12:10.280
+and its association with all these things
+
+12:10.280 --> 12:13.280
+that they know were being done in these jurisdictions
+
+12:13.280 --> 12:16.440
+we have concluded that there was,
+
+12:16.440 --> 12:19.360
+there is no evidence for a particularly virulent
+
+12:19.360 --> 12:21.480
+new pathogen that was spreading
+
+12:22.440 --> 12:25.720
+that in fact all of the excess mortality
+
+12:25.720 --> 12:27.560
+everywhere we've looked in the world
+
+12:27.560 --> 12:29.760
+can be understood in terms of
+
+12:29.760 --> 12:32.400
+this is what happens when you do this to people.
+
+12:32.400 --> 12:34.920
+This is what happens when you stop treating them
+
+12:34.920 --> 12:36.840
+for all the usual things that they have
+
+12:36.880 --> 12:40.480
+and when you destroy their lives and stress them out
+
+12:40.480 --> 12:42.280
+and force them to be isolated
+
+12:42.280 --> 12:45.520
+this is what you get, you get this kind of mortality.
+
+12:45.520 --> 12:49.920
+And so this mortality is very heterogeneous
+
+12:49.920 --> 12:53.120
+until you start roll out the vaccines.
+
+12:53.120 --> 12:55.080
+Then once you start rolling out the vaccines
+
+12:55.080 --> 12:58.160
+because that was done pretty much simultaneously
+
+12:58.160 --> 13:01.800
+around the world, you have everywhere
+
+13:01.800 --> 13:04.320
+an increase in all-cause mortality.
+
+13:04.320 --> 13:09.040
+You move into a regime of higher all-cause mortality
+
+13:09.040 --> 13:12.200
+and then you stay there while you're rolling out the vaccines
+
+13:12.200 --> 13:14.560
+and then every time you roll out a booster
+
+13:14.560 --> 13:17.080
+you get a peak, an extra peak in all-cause mortality
+
+13:17.080 --> 13:20.960
+associated in time with that booster.
+
+13:20.960 --> 13:23.240
+And this is stunning, we see this
+
+13:23.240 --> 13:25.160
+and you can do it by age group.
+
+13:25.160 --> 13:27.880
+So you can look at the 90 plus year olds
+
+13:27.880 --> 13:30.520
+or the 80 to 90 year olds and so on.
+
+13:30.520 --> 13:33.640
+And you see a very sharp booster rollout
+
+13:33.640 --> 13:36.280
+because they did it very quickly in a given jurisdiction
+
+13:36.280 --> 13:38.200
+and immediately follows it
+
+13:38.200 --> 13:42.880
+is a very sharp unprecedented peak in all-cause mortality.
+
+13:42.880 --> 13:46.560
+So this is extremely clear, it cannot be an accident
+
+13:49.280 --> 13:52.120
+and therefore you can quantify it.
+
+13:52.120 --> 13:54.160
+You can say, well, how many deaths occurred
+
+13:54.160 --> 13:56.840
+given how many injections you gave?
+
+13:56.840 --> 13:59.520
+So that's what we do, we've been quantifying it.
+
+13:59.520 --> 14:02.080
+And what's surprisingly is what we find
+
+14:02.080 --> 14:04.800
+is that around the world in every jurisdiction
+
+14:04.800 --> 14:07.600
+we've now looked at over 100 countries,
+
+14:08.560 --> 14:11.920
+the mortality risk per injection
+
+14:11.920 --> 14:13.520
+is pretty much the same everywhere.
+
+14:14.480 --> 14:18.800
+So all ages, it's about 0.1%.
+
+14:18.800 --> 14:23.080
+So one, actually we refined it recently
+
+14:23.080 --> 14:27.080
+is 0.126% with an error bar on it.
+
+14:27.080 --> 14:31.440
+And so that means that for every 800 injections,
+
+14:31.440 --> 14:32.800
+one person will die.
+
+14:34.320 --> 14:37.440
+So it's one person per 800 injections.
+
+14:38.520 --> 14:43.680
+Now the important thing is that that risk of death
+
+14:43.680 --> 14:47.400
+per injection is not uniform with age.
+
+14:47.400 --> 14:51.240
+It increases exponentially with age
+
+14:51.240 --> 14:54.360
+and it is dramatically higher the older you are.
+
+14:54.360 --> 14:59.360
+The doubling time by age is four to five years of age.
+
+15:00.040 --> 15:03.240
+Every four to five years of extra age that you have,
+
+15:03.240 --> 15:06.560
+your risk of dying per injection doubles.
+
+15:08.040 --> 15:12.360
+So we hear about the deaths in young athletes and others,
+
+15:12.360 --> 15:15.640
+but I've always been struck by the McLachlan analysis
+
+15:15.640 --> 15:18.640
+from Queens University very early on using the VAERS.
+
+15:18.640 --> 15:20.160
+It was the only VAERS analysis
+
+15:20.160 --> 15:22.840
+that read every single vignette
+
+15:22.840 --> 15:25.760
+and then adjudicated the two different adjudicators
+
+15:25.760 --> 15:28.480
+and they had an agreement process
+
+15:28.480 --> 15:31.000
+to finally adjudicate the death.
+
+15:31.000 --> 15:32.560
+And they only had about 1,200 deaths
+
+15:32.560 --> 15:34.840
+at that point in time in VAERS.
+
+15:34.840 --> 15:36.440
+And what was striking is,
+
+15:36.440 --> 15:38.800
+that was when it was being rolled out in the nursing homes
+
+15:38.800 --> 15:40.920
+in January, February, March.
+
+15:40.920 --> 15:44.680
+It was the seniors, just as you said, that were dying.
+
+15:44.680 --> 15:46.960
+And in the McLachlan analysis,
+
+15:46.960 --> 15:48.960
+it was striking how quick it was.
+
+15:49.840 --> 15:54.840
+There was something like 16% or so died within a few hours.
+
+15:55.360 --> 15:58.840
+Of those who died died within a few hours of the shot.
+
+15:58.840 --> 16:01.800
+A large fraction was within 24 hours.
+
+16:03.000 --> 16:07.360
+And so it was almost as if the reactor genicity of the shot
+
+16:07.360 --> 16:09.640
+or the early production of the spike protein
+
+16:09.640 --> 16:12.600
+from the genetic material we know this occurs within an hour.
+
+16:12.600 --> 16:15.000
+We know it's circulatory in the bloodstream.
+
+16:15.000 --> 16:17.960
+It's simply not this lethal protein
+
+16:17.960 --> 16:19.880
+just is not tolerated by the elderly.
+
+16:19.880 --> 16:21.040
+It makes sense.
+
+16:21.040 --> 16:23.560
+In the McLachlan analysis,
+
+16:23.560 --> 16:28.560
+86% of the time there was no other explanation.
+
+16:29.680 --> 16:31.120
+They were in their usual state of health.
+
+16:31.120 --> 16:33.920
+They took the vaccine and then they succumbed to death.
+
+16:33.920 --> 16:34.760
+Absolutely.
+
+16:34.760 --> 16:37.800
+We also studied the VAERS data of the United States.
+
+16:37.800 --> 16:40.920
+And it's very, very clear that the deaths that do occur,
+
+16:40.920 --> 16:44.360
+most of them, there's a peak around three or four or five days
+
+16:44.360 --> 16:45.880
+from vaccination.
+
+16:45.880 --> 16:48.600
+It's very clear, as you say,
+
+16:48.600 --> 16:52.520
+that's clear in the VAERS data as it is.
+
+16:52.560 --> 16:57.560
+And also the VAERS data shows dependence on age
+
+16:58.200 --> 16:59.680
+that is exponential.
+
+16:59.680 --> 17:01.440
+We wrote a little paper about that.
+
+17:01.440 --> 17:04.360
+So it's seen directly in the VAERS data.
+
+17:04.360 --> 17:07.600
+But what's important to realize is that now that we've
+
+17:07.600 --> 17:11.680
+quantified it on the scale of entire populations,
+
+17:11.680 --> 17:16.680
+using these peaks, we now know that the risk of death
+
+17:17.200 --> 17:19.600
+is much higher than what you would conclude
+
+17:19.600 --> 17:21.080
+from the VAERS data.
+
+17:21.080 --> 17:25.080
+It's much higher than that because it's,
+
+17:25.080 --> 17:29.800
+well, as I said, so it's, if you use our numbers,
+
+17:29.800 --> 17:33.320
+it would correspond to more than 0.2%
+
+17:33.320 --> 17:36.240
+of the world population that would have died
+
+17:36.240 --> 17:39.200
+from a direct result of being injected
+
+17:39.200 --> 17:41.680
+in the last, less than three years.
+
+17:41.680 --> 17:45.720
+It would have been 17 million, 17 million people.
+
+17:45.720 --> 17:46.560
+It would have been.
+
+17:46.560 --> 17:47.400
+17 million, right.
+
+17:47.400 --> 17:49.440
+That's a roundabout number I've heard.
+
+17:50.280 --> 17:53.040
+In the United States, in the domestic VAERS data,
+
+17:53.040 --> 17:57.000
+we're at over 18,000 deaths that the CDC,
+
+17:57.000 --> 17:58.880
+now when we report a death,
+
+17:58.880 --> 18:00.920
+and I've reported a death to the VAERS system
+
+18:00.920 --> 18:02.000
+as a practicing doctor.
+
+18:02.000 --> 18:06.000
+So I know what it takes and the CDC does receive it.
+
+18:06.000 --> 18:07.920
+It gets a temporary VAERS number.
+
+18:07.920 --> 18:09.280
+It waits for the death certificate.
+
+18:09.280 --> 18:11.880
+Again, that's six weeks later, comes in.
+
+18:11.880 --> 18:13.920
+And then it ultimately gets a permanent VAERS number.
+
+18:13.920 --> 18:17.240
+So what's up in VAERS for permanent VAERS number deaths?
+
+18:17.280 --> 18:20.080
+It's about 18,000, 1,100.
+
+18:20.080 --> 18:22.560
+It's within the first day of the shot.
+
+18:22.560 --> 18:25.280
+Okay, so it's very tightly temply related.
+
+18:25.280 --> 18:28.360
+In the FDA testimony at the VRBAC meetings,
+
+18:29.280 --> 18:34.160
+independent scientists have put a under-reporting factor
+
+18:34.160 --> 18:36.480
+on the deaths at about 30.
+
+18:36.480 --> 18:38.560
+In the peer-reviewed literature, there's one paper
+
+18:38.560 --> 18:40.680
+that is pointing to 40 as a number.
+
+18:40.680 --> 18:44.920
+But if we take 30, we're looking at just under 600,000
+
+18:44.960 --> 18:48.080
+Americans dying with the vaccine.
+
+18:48.080 --> 18:52.200
+We're about 4% of the U.S. population.
+
+18:52.200 --> 18:54.720
+So when you kind of do that number,
+
+18:54.720 --> 18:59.640
+you're gonna get out there to that 20 million number.
+
+18:59.640 --> 19:00.480
+Very close.
+
+19:00.480 --> 19:03.240
+That's one approach is to try to estimate
+
+19:03.240 --> 19:05.680
+the under-reporting in VAERS.
+
+19:05.680 --> 19:08.520
+That's a very, it's a relatively tenuous approach
+
+19:08.520 --> 19:11.080
+because there's a lot of uncertainty involved
+
+19:11.080 --> 19:13.120
+in trying to do that.
+
+19:13.120 --> 19:16.600
+One thing that's different is that the culture,
+
+19:16.600 --> 19:20.960
+the propaganda, is very, very different before the pandemic
+
+19:20.960 --> 19:23.720
+is declared and then after the pandemic is declared.
+
+19:23.720 --> 19:26.640
+And that has a big influence on whether or not MDs
+
+19:26.640 --> 19:29.600
+will report and so on and people also,
+
+19:29.600 --> 19:33.560
+whether or not people feel that the person that died,
+
+19:33.560 --> 19:35.200
+it could have been that and so on.
+
+19:35.200 --> 19:40.000
+So it's very hard to estimate that under-reporting rate
+
+19:40.000 --> 19:41.400
+and it will be different for deaths
+
+19:41.440 --> 19:44.040
+and for a major adverse reaction and so on.
+
+19:44.040 --> 19:45.960
+So that's a difficult thing to do
+
+19:45.960 --> 19:49.080
+but I respect people who try to do that.
+
+19:49.080 --> 19:50.280
+Yeah, it's difficult.
+
+19:50.280 --> 19:53.200
+It's just one of many methods.
+
+19:53.200 --> 19:55.480
+The practical aspects of it are you're right.
+
+19:55.480 --> 19:59.800
+In VAERS, paper by Meister and colleagues from 2016
+
+19:59.800 --> 20:03.480
+said about 86% of the reports are by a doctor,
+
+20:03.480 --> 20:06.200
+a healthcare worker or a pharmaceutical company
+
+20:06.200 --> 20:07.920
+which can report to VAERS.
+
+20:07.920 --> 20:10.200
+So you know, individuals don't report.
+
+20:10.200 --> 20:13.680
+I can tell you, I practically can't do the report
+
+20:13.680 --> 20:15.800
+unless I have the vaccine card.
+
+20:15.800 --> 20:18.520
+So many deaths at home that are brought in,
+
+20:18.520 --> 20:20.840
+you know, there's just no way I'm gonna have the vaccine card.
+
+20:20.840 --> 20:22.120
+It's just, I just can't do it.
+
+20:22.120 --> 20:24.280
+So it really has to be a patient under my care.
+
+20:24.280 --> 20:25.880
+I have to suspect it.
+
+20:25.880 --> 20:28.040
+The family has to provide the vaccine card.
+
+20:28.040 --> 20:31.040
+Then I go through the laborious part of doing the entry.
+
+20:31.040 --> 20:34.320
+Now, it's interesting in the first year of the pandemic,
+
+20:34.320 --> 20:39.320
+there was a paper using census data
+
+20:39.400 --> 20:40.920
+in vaccine administration,
+
+20:40.920 --> 20:44.120
+it's ecological analysis, pentas, octos and cell equipment.
+
+20:44.120 --> 20:45.920
+You know, they came up with a number
+
+20:45.920 --> 20:49.720
+around 170 or so 1,000 people,
+
+20:49.720 --> 20:52.600
+Americans died of the vaccine in the first year.
+
+20:52.600 --> 20:55.160
+And then Mark Skidmore using social networks,
+
+20:55.160 --> 20:56.560
+a different analysis.
+
+20:56.560 --> 21:01.560
+He came up with about 278,000 individuals.
+
+21:02.480 --> 21:04.640
+And now this VAERS underreporting,
+
+21:04.640 --> 21:08.880
+again, divide that 600 by, you know, by the 2021 numbers.
+
+21:09.320 --> 21:11.680
+We have about three sources of evidence.
+
+21:11.680 --> 21:16.680
+Well, we calculated the risk of dying per injection.
+
+21:18.640 --> 21:21.200
+And we estimated the best value for the United States.
+
+21:21.200 --> 21:24.120
+And we came up with a number of about 300,000 deaths
+
+21:24.120 --> 21:26.080
+that would have been, that would have been.
+
+21:26.080 --> 21:28.720
+In what overall or just in 2021?
+
+21:29.760 --> 21:32.120
+That at the time that we wrote the paper,
+
+21:32.120 --> 21:36.240
+it's almost, no, no, no, I mean vaccine deaths.
+
+21:36.240 --> 21:37.240
+Yeah.
+
+21:37.280 --> 21:38.640
+It would be a little bit more now
+
+21:38.640 --> 21:41.040
+because there have been more vaccinations and so on.
+
+21:41.040 --> 21:43.400
+But it was roughly that kind of number.
+
+21:43.400 --> 21:45.080
+It was at the time, the same time
+
+21:45.080 --> 21:47.640
+that Mark Skidmore had published his paper,
+
+21:47.640 --> 21:49.440
+we were publishing ours at the same time
+
+21:49.440 --> 21:51.440
+and we came up with the same number.
+
+21:51.440 --> 21:52.280
+Basically.
+
+21:52.280 --> 21:55.760
+No, no, because we have a national death index
+
+21:55.760 --> 21:59.840
+and because we have vaccine administration data
+
+21:59.840 --> 22:01.920
+and in some countries like, you know, Denmark,
+
+22:01.920 --> 22:05.080
+I just visited Denmark have exquisite data systems.
+
+22:05.080 --> 22:08.040
+It's simply merging the vaccine administration data
+
+22:08.040 --> 22:09.720
+and the death data and doing, you know,
+
+22:09.720 --> 22:12.400
+a reasonable temporal analysis.
+
+22:12.400 --> 22:13.640
+You know, I've led, you know,
+
+22:13.640 --> 22:16.440
+over two dozen day safety monitoring boards
+
+22:16.440 --> 22:19.320
+for novel drugs, devices, other things,
+
+22:19.320 --> 22:22.600
+for the FDA, for the NIH, for BARDA.
+
+22:22.600 --> 22:26.960
+And we always use a 30 day empiric number.
+
+22:26.960 --> 22:30.080
+So any death that comes within 30 days
+
+22:30.080 --> 22:32.000
+of an experimental product,
+
+22:32.000 --> 22:34.200
+it just counted on the product period.
+
+22:34.200 --> 22:37.480
+We don't have to go weeding through any jurisdiction,
+
+22:37.480 --> 22:42.480
+any country that has a detailed data set of deaths
+
+22:42.640 --> 22:45.920
+and that for those individuals who died,
+
+22:45.920 --> 22:50.600
+you can know when they were vaccinated with this vaccine
+
+22:50.600 --> 22:52.400
+and how many times they were vaccinated.
+
+22:52.400 --> 22:54.480
+That would be extremely helpful.
+
+22:54.480 --> 22:56.440
+That would be the golden data, right?
+
+22:56.440 --> 22:57.280
+That would be.
+
+22:57.280 --> 23:00.400
+Listen, there are easily three dozen countries
+
+23:00.400 --> 23:03.360
+that have that and they've been pushed.
+
+23:03.360 --> 23:05.960
+So the United States has formerly been pushed
+
+23:05.960 --> 23:08.040
+by myself and others to merge the data.
+
+23:08.040 --> 23:08.880
+They won't do that.
+
+23:08.880 --> 23:11.520
+I met with Dr. Manicki,
+
+23:11.520 --> 23:14.360
+Vervechi Manicki in Denmark.
+
+23:14.360 --> 23:16.120
+They clearly can do it.
+
+23:16.120 --> 23:18.320
+And there's not a single country
+
+23:18.320 --> 23:20.800
+that will merge the vaccine administration data
+
+23:20.800 --> 23:22.240
+with the death data.
+
+23:22.240 --> 23:23.480
+Yes.
+
+23:23.480 --> 23:24.360
+Well, there you go.
+
+23:24.360 --> 23:25.920
+That's one of the problems.
+
+23:25.920 --> 23:28.840
+And one of the best things we can do at this stage
+
+23:28.840 --> 23:30.880
+without having that merged data
+
+23:30.880 --> 23:32.040
+is what we're doing.
+
+23:32.040 --> 23:34.280
+You all cause mortality by the time.
+
+23:34.280 --> 23:35.520
+And very important.
+
+23:35.520 --> 23:38.400
+Now, all cause mortality just quickly
+
+23:40.200 --> 23:42.600
+in terms of causes of death in general
+
+23:42.600 --> 23:45.200
+before the pandemic in Westernized countries,
+
+23:45.200 --> 23:48.160
+it's about 40% known cancer,
+
+23:48.160 --> 23:51.440
+40% known cardiovascular disease
+
+23:51.440 --> 23:53.520
+and about 20% other causes.
+
+23:53.520 --> 23:56.000
+And so cancer and cardiac disease are always
+
+23:56.000 --> 23:58.480
+kind of neck and neck for the number one causes.
+
+23:58.480 --> 24:01.480
+But the point is in almost every analysis,
+
+24:01.480 --> 24:05.480
+the vast majority of the cause of death is known.
+
+24:05.480 --> 24:07.520
+In fact, I reviewed a paper
+
+24:07.520 --> 24:11.040
+even among college age kids who die.
+
+24:11.040 --> 24:13.440
+And the number was far in excess
+
+24:13.440 --> 24:16.720
+of having the vignette known.
+
+24:16.720 --> 24:19.120
+It was a suicide, a motor vehicle accident,
+
+24:19.120 --> 24:22.720
+a drug overdose or a known cancer case.
+
+24:22.720 --> 24:27.280
+During COVID, the excess mortality that we found
+
+24:27.280 --> 24:29.800
+before the vaccines were rolled out
+
+24:29.800 --> 24:33.040
+could matched very well what the government
+
+24:33.040 --> 24:35.440
+was calling COVID deaths, okay?
+
+24:35.440 --> 24:39.880
+In terms of excess mortality by time,
+
+24:39.880 --> 24:42.640
+with all the bumps and all the ups and downs
+
+24:42.640 --> 24:46.600
+nationally for the US, the COVID deaths
+
+24:46.600 --> 24:48.640
+that the US was reporting
+
+24:48.640 --> 24:51.480
+matched that excess mortality quite closely.
+
+24:51.480 --> 24:53.200
+But when you looked at their data,
+
+24:53.200 --> 24:55.680
+they actually admitted that up to half
+
+24:55.680 --> 24:58.160
+and even more than half depending on the state
+
+24:58.160 --> 25:03.160
+of those deaths had comorbidity of bacterial pneumonia, okay?
+
+25:04.680 --> 25:08.000
+And at the same time, the prescription rates
+
+25:08.000 --> 25:12.240
+for antibiotics were dropped by 50% across the Western world.
+
+25:12.240 --> 25:15.640
+So we believe that a lot of people died
+
+25:15.640 --> 25:18.700
+from bacterial pneumonia during this period.
+
+25:21.200 --> 25:24.920
+In fact, the southern states in the United States
+
+25:24.920 --> 25:27.200
+normally get two to three times
+
+25:27.200 --> 25:29.760
+more prescriptions of antibiotics.
+
+25:29.760 --> 25:30.800
+I don't know if you knew that,
+
+25:30.800 --> 25:32.400
+but the poor southern states
+
+25:32.400 --> 25:34.320
+where there's higher levels of poverty,
+
+25:34.320 --> 25:36.520
+they get a lot of prescriptions of antibiotics,
+
+25:36.520 --> 25:37.840
+those were cut.
+
+25:37.840 --> 25:41.800
+What we found is that all cause mortality correlated perfectly
+
+25:41.800 --> 25:44.560
+with the fraction of the population
+
+25:44.560 --> 25:46.760
+that was living in poverty in the United States.
+
+25:46.760 --> 25:50.440
+Yeah, it's just stunning.
+
+25:50.440 --> 25:51.800
+It's a straight line.
+
+25:51.800 --> 25:55.560
+So if in a state that had no people living in poverty,
+
+25:55.560 --> 25:57.200
+there would have been no excess death
+
+25:57.200 --> 26:00.800
+according to this proportionality that we found.
+
+26:00.800 --> 26:05.600
+And so it was the poor people, they tend to be obese,
+
+26:05.600 --> 26:07.880
+they normally get prescribed a lot of antibiotics,
+
+26:07.880 --> 26:10.400
+meaning they're susceptible to lung infections.
+
+26:10.400 --> 26:13.200
+Those are the people who died in the United States
+
+26:13.200 --> 26:16.320
+and especially the elderly among in that group.
+
+26:16.320 --> 26:18.720
+Yeah, I think this is really, really important
+
+26:18.720 --> 26:20.320
+for the audience to hear.
+
+26:20.400 --> 26:22.400
+In just a minute we have left, though,
+
+26:22.400 --> 26:27.400
+I do have to ask you for your interpretation of this.
+
+26:28.120 --> 26:30.720
+Two former years of Pennsylvania scientists,
+
+26:30.720 --> 26:33.760
+a man or woman were awarded the Nobel Prize
+
+26:33.760 --> 26:37.120
+for their work in modifying messenger RNA
+
+26:37.120 --> 26:40.000
+to make it more durable in the human body,
+
+26:40.000 --> 26:43.480
+not really for creating the whole entity.
+
+26:43.480 --> 26:48.000
+There's over 9,000 patent documents on messenger RNA
+
+26:48.000 --> 26:51.120
+and the United States has been in this business since 1985.
+
+26:51.120 --> 26:54.760
+You know, the top patent holders for messenger RNA
+
+26:54.760 --> 26:59.120
+are a curvac and Sanofi and BioNTech Moderna
+
+26:59.120 --> 27:01.360
+in the US government, but no single person
+
+27:01.360 --> 27:03.240
+quote invented messenger RNA.
+
+27:03.240 --> 27:07.560
+But these two people just got the Nobel Prize for modifying it
+
+27:07.560 --> 27:09.080
+for COVID-19 vaccines.
+
+27:09.080 --> 27:11.520
+But all the press releases today
+
+27:11.520 --> 27:14.480
+say that the COVID-19 vaccines have saved
+
+27:14.480 --> 27:17.720
+somewhere between 14 and 25 million lives.
+
+27:17.720 --> 27:19.880
+The vaccines have saved lives.
+
+27:19.880 --> 27:22.360
+Dr. Rancourt, is there any way
+
+27:22.360 --> 27:25.960
+that COVID vaccines could be given this type of attribution
+
+27:25.960 --> 27:27.280
+of saving lives?
+
+27:27.280 --> 27:31.320
+Listen, it's unambiguous.
+
+27:31.320 --> 27:34.600
+All cause mortality by time in all countries
+
+27:34.600 --> 27:36.080
+that we've studied across the world,
+
+27:36.080 --> 27:39.360
+there is not a single example of evidence
+
+27:39.360 --> 27:41.960
+where you could conclude that lives were saved
+
+27:41.960 --> 27:43.760
+by the vaccine rollouts.
+
+27:43.760 --> 27:46.280
+There is no decrease in all cause mortality.
+
+27:46.280 --> 27:47.640
+It's the opposite.
+
+27:47.640 --> 27:50.280
+You go to a higher regime of all cause mortality.
+
+27:50.280 --> 27:51.880
+And then when you roll out the boosters,
+
+27:51.880 --> 27:54.920
+you get extra peaks on top of that fire regime.
+
+27:54.920 --> 27:57.800
+There is no jurisdiction where you can say,
+
+27:57.800 --> 27:59.560
+uh-huh, the vaccines are coming in.
+
+27:59.560 --> 28:01.440
+Now the deaths are coming down.
+
+28:01.440 --> 28:03.240
+No way, that does not happen.
+
+28:03.240 --> 28:04.320
+It never happens.
+
+28:04.320 --> 28:05.680
+It's the opposite.
+
+28:05.680 --> 28:09.400
+You have temporal association between vaccine rollouts
+
+28:09.400 --> 28:13.320
+and extra excess mortality.
+
+28:13.320 --> 28:16.760
+This may be the first Nobel Prize
+
+28:16.800 --> 28:19.920
+that's associated with increased worldwide mortality.
+
+28:19.920 --> 28:22.160
+I'll have to go back and year by year.
+
+28:22.160 --> 28:24.800
+But what a stunning observation.
+
+28:24.800 --> 28:26.560
+It's a bit of fascinating interview.
+
+28:26.560 --> 28:27.400
+Thank you so much.
+
+28:27.400 --> 28:29.280
+The other thing I have to say just quickly
+
+28:29.280 --> 28:31.800
+is that there are many, many countries around the world
+
+28:31.800 --> 28:34.200
+like Australia, Israel, many, many countries
+
+28:34.200 --> 28:37.120
+where there was absolutely no excess
+
+28:37.120 --> 28:40.720
+all cause mortality until the vaccine was rolled out.
+
+28:40.720 --> 28:41.560
+Right.
+
+28:41.560 --> 28:44.800
+But there was no excess that could be associated
+
+28:44.800 --> 28:47.880
+with any pathogen, there was no excess mortality.
+
+28:47.880 --> 28:49.640
+This is like country after country.
+
+28:49.640 --> 28:52.840
+There are many, many countries in Latin America,
+
+28:52.840 --> 28:55.520
+in the equatorial region, you know,
+
+28:55.520 --> 28:57.600
+where there is no excess mortality
+
+28:57.600 --> 29:00.080
+until the vaccines are rolled out.
+
+29:00.080 --> 29:00.920
+That's true.
+
+29:00.920 --> 29:04.080
+And there are some analyses during the pre-vaccine era
+
+29:04.080 --> 29:04.920
+of the pandemic.
+
+29:04.920 --> 29:08.560
+When there was a death, it tended to occur in people,
+
+29:08.560 --> 29:11.720
+you know, that were already beyond their life expectancy.
+
+29:11.720 --> 29:13.960
+Right. So that would not show up as an excess
+
+29:14.000 --> 29:15.080
+in all cause mortality.
+
+29:15.080 --> 29:16.000
+That's right.
+
+29:16.000 --> 29:18.840
+Yeah. So listen, thank you so much for your time.
+
+29:18.840 --> 29:20.160
+Jay, thanks for hosting us.
+
+29:20.160 --> 29:21.640
+And I've learned so much.
+
+29:21.640 --> 29:24.920
+I, you know, I hope your message continues to get out there.
+
+29:24.920 --> 29:26.440
+You're doing terrific work.
+
+29:26.440 --> 29:27.280
+Thanks, Peter.
+
+29:27.280 --> 29:30.640
+These types of ecological analyses are very important.
+
+29:30.640 --> 29:32.080
+They do have to be reconciled
+
+29:32.080 --> 29:34.680
+because you're reporting real information.
+
+29:34.680 --> 29:37.360
+So now it's all about interpretation
+
+29:37.360 --> 29:40.160
+and reconciliation with what we understand
+
+29:40.160 --> 29:41.320
+and other sources of data.
+
+29:41.320 --> 29:42.160
+I agree with you.
+
+29:42.160 --> 29:44.880
+There's not a single prospective double-blind,
+
+29:44.880 --> 29:46.680
+randomized, placebo control trial
+
+29:46.680 --> 29:50.560
+that showed the vaccines reduced the rate of death.
+
+29:50.560 --> 29:52.240
+And Peter, the best.
+
+29:52.240 --> 29:53.080
+Peter, the best.
+
+29:53.080 --> 29:55.600
+Over 3,400 papers in the previous literature
+
+29:55.600 --> 30:00.320
+of vaccine injuries, disabilities, and fatal cases.
+
+30:00.320 --> 30:02.000
+And we have many sources of data.
+
+30:02.000 --> 30:07.160
+Sadly, the Nobel laureates will not have their discovery
+
+30:07.160 --> 30:08.000
+linked to you.
+
+30:08.000 --> 30:10.720
+But remember, Peter, the reason why they got awarded
+
+30:10.720 --> 30:13.520
+Nobel prize is because it lasts much longer
+
+30:13.520 --> 30:14.880
+than they ever anticipated.
+
+30:14.880 --> 30:17.000
+It's turned out so much better.
+
+30:17.000 --> 30:19.000
+When they released this technology,
+
+30:19.000 --> 30:21.360
+they told us it was going to last a few weeks.
+
+30:21.360 --> 30:23.000
+It lasts much longer.
+
+30:23.000 --> 30:25.360
+That's why they decided to give them the Nobel.
+
+30:25.360 --> 30:27.120
+You know, that's a great point.
+
+30:27.120 --> 30:29.520
+Now listen, synthetic messenger RNA
+
+30:29.520 --> 30:33.960
+was injected to produce a missing protein like insulin
+
+30:33.960 --> 30:38.080
+and a type 1 diabetic or alpha-glycocidase and Fabrice's.
+
+30:38.080 --> 30:39.880
+Long-acting would be good.
+
+30:39.880 --> 30:42.560
+But when one's producing an antigen,
+
+30:42.560 --> 30:46.200
+a potentially lethal protein like the spike protein,
+
+30:46.200 --> 30:47.320
+long-acting is bad.
+
+30:47.320 --> 30:48.160
+You're right, Jay.
+
+30:48.160 --> 30:50.080
+You'd want it just there for very briefly,
+
+30:50.080 --> 30:52.040
+like tetanus, toxoid, and out.
+
+30:52.040 --> 30:53.880
+Listen, you guys, I have to finish up now.
+
+30:53.880 --> 30:54.880
+Yes, I'm sorry.
+
+30:54.880 --> 30:55.920
+Thank you so much for having me on the program.
+
+30:55.920 --> 30:57.520
+Thank you very much, Peter.
+
+30:57.520 --> 30:58.360
+Cheers.
+
+30:58.360 --> 30:59.200
+Bye.
+
+30:59.200 --> 31:00.200
+Nice to meet you.
+
+31:00.200 --> 31:01.240
+Bye now.
+
+31:01.240 --> 31:03.800
+So I think, yes, oh, that's perfect.
+
+31:03.800 --> 31:05.960
+Wow, I can't believe how well that went
+
+31:05.960 --> 31:08.040
+despite the fact that I dropped the ball.
+
+31:09.040 --> 31:13.560
+Are we on, are we on, are we live now?
+
+31:13.560 --> 31:15.000
+Yeah, we still are live, yes.
+
+31:15.000 --> 31:16.960
+OK, cool.
+
+31:16.960 --> 31:18.880
+I'm really, really happy with that.
+
+31:18.880 --> 31:21.680
+You have become a real jogger knot
+
+31:21.680 --> 31:25.920
+with presenting this in a way that, again, you know,
+
+31:25.920 --> 31:29.680
+I anticipated that the death certificates
+
+31:29.680 --> 31:32.160
+would come in as a discussion point.
+
+31:32.160 --> 31:35.200
+But without wanting to interrupt, then,
+
+31:35.200 --> 31:38.480
+there was a lot of delay of death reporting in 2020.
+
+31:38.480 --> 31:42.040
+And so only in retrospect can this be sorted out.
+
+31:42.040 --> 31:44.560
+If you tried to do this in 2020,
+
+31:44.560 --> 31:46.560
+you would not have seen this signal.
+
+31:46.560 --> 31:48.880
+Right, right.
+
+31:48.880 --> 31:53.520
+Yeah, no, they all cause mortality data is solid data.
+
+31:53.520 --> 31:58.640
+And it's certified up to the date, up to the latest date,
+
+31:58.640 --> 31:59.680
+where they've certified it.
+
+31:59.680 --> 32:00.760
+And it never changes.
+
+32:00.760 --> 32:04.240
+They never go back and change it and manipulate it.
+
+32:04.240 --> 32:06.280
+They never do.
+
+32:06.280 --> 32:08.560
+There is no historic example of that.
+
+32:08.560 --> 32:11.840
+So it's good data.
+
+32:11.840 --> 32:16.200
+Yeah, I think that this is the kind of bedrock
+
+32:16.200 --> 32:20.520
+that a movement can be built on in the sense of, you know,
+
+32:20.520 --> 32:24.400
+really trying to wear before when we would try to open
+
+32:24.400 --> 32:25.920
+people's eyes.
+
+32:25.920 --> 32:29.520
+There wasn't a lot of, you know, concrete to stand on.
+
+32:29.520 --> 32:31.440
+And so it's hard to tell people where to go.
+
+32:31.440 --> 32:33.960
+And I think now with your work, and I
+
+32:33.960 --> 32:37.640
+think Jessica Hockett also has a real knack for showing
+
+32:37.640 --> 32:40.320
+people, you know, look, it's not there.
+
+32:40.320 --> 32:46.480
+And these kinds of sharp, clear presentations of data,
+
+32:46.480 --> 32:52.240
+which show that there was not this biological phenomenon
+
+32:52.240 --> 32:53.720
+that we were told there was.
+
+32:53.720 --> 32:56.960
+It's not muddled by interpretation.
+
+32:56.960 --> 32:59.280
+You don't have to convolute the interpretation
+
+32:59.280 --> 33:01.520
+with the data to get the data.
+
+33:01.520 --> 33:03.040
+It's the raw.
+
+33:03.040 --> 33:04.040
+You know, this is it.
+
+33:04.040 --> 33:06.240
+Mortality versus time.
+
+33:06.240 --> 33:08.960
+And the way to get excess mortality compared
+
+33:08.960 --> 33:12.360
+to the historic trend is relatively straightforward.
+
+33:12.360 --> 33:13.280
+You have to be careful.
+
+33:13.280 --> 33:15.120
+You have to do statistically correctly.
+
+33:15.120 --> 33:18.600
+If the signal is small, there's some uncertainty.
+
+33:18.600 --> 33:20.160
+But these signals are huge.
+
+33:20.160 --> 33:23.800
+The excess mortality, when it occurs, is very big.
+
+33:23.800 --> 33:25.680
+So this is robust data.
+
+33:25.680 --> 33:26.800
+Yes.
+
+33:26.800 --> 33:29.720
+Yeah, it's solid.
+
+33:29.720 --> 33:32.280
+Can I ask you do you know, one of the things
+
+33:32.280 --> 33:34.960
+that happens when I present this solid data,
+
+33:34.960 --> 33:38.520
+a lot of the people who are uncomfortable with the idea
+
+33:38.520 --> 33:41.200
+that the government is not doing what it's said
+
+33:41.200 --> 33:43.200
+and that they've been lying and that maybe these
+
+33:43.200 --> 33:47.040
+are bad for you and so on, they will just go off the deep end
+
+33:47.040 --> 33:50.320
+with, oh, but it's a new variant that's come into play.
+
+33:50.320 --> 33:52.680
+You know, exactly at the moment where
+
+33:52.680 --> 33:56.000
+you have this sharp roll out of a booster to 80 plus year olds,
+
+33:56.000 --> 33:58.520
+you had a variant come in affecting those populations
+
+33:58.520 --> 34:00.360
+at exactly the same time.
+
+34:00.360 --> 34:02.120
+And this has happened every time.
+
+34:02.120 --> 34:05.320
+So when you say it's a booster that is directly
+
+34:05.320 --> 34:07.680
+temporally associated with each of these peaks
+
+34:07.680 --> 34:10.280
+in every age group and in every country you've looked at,
+
+34:10.280 --> 34:14.800
+when you roll out a booster, I would say that it's a variant.
+
+34:14.800 --> 34:18.360
+OK, so this is the kind of argument you get into.
+
+34:18.360 --> 34:21.880
+And you know, as well as I do, that the methodology
+
+34:21.880 --> 34:26.120
+for deducing the prevalence of variants in a society
+
+34:26.120 --> 34:28.600
+is just complete garbage science, right?
+
+34:28.600 --> 34:32.080
+Were you able to see garbage in your data
+
+34:32.080 --> 34:36.280
+the signal of, so I would assume,
+
+34:36.280 --> 34:38.600
+and I'm just going off my gut here,
+
+34:38.600 --> 34:43.760
+that the first two shots had a pretty wide uptake relative
+
+34:43.760 --> 34:46.000
+to the third and then relative to a booster.
+
+34:46.000 --> 34:47.640
+And the boosters would have been taken up
+
+34:47.640 --> 34:50.440
+by more and more old vulnerable people.
+
+34:50.440 --> 34:51.520
+Is that not correct?
+
+34:51.520 --> 34:55.440
+Yeah, but you see, we've got data by age group.
+
+34:55.440 --> 34:59.720
+So the data by age group is both for the vaccination
+
+34:59.720 --> 35:00.960
+and for the mortality.
+
+35:00.960 --> 35:01.720
+Right.
+
+35:01.720 --> 35:05.720
+OK, so it's how many people in that age group were injected.
+
+35:05.720 --> 35:06.160
+I see.
+
+35:06.160 --> 35:10.200
+And don't forget also that the elderly people
+
+35:10.200 --> 35:12.160
+get really targeted.
+
+35:12.160 --> 35:18.320
+There is this incredibly criminal, baseless policy
+
+35:18.320 --> 35:20.120
+that you have to protect them, therefore, you
+
+35:20.120 --> 35:23.400
+have to prioritize them for injection.
+
+35:23.400 --> 35:27.680
+And we've proven now that that is the opposite of what you
+
+35:27.680 --> 35:28.120
+should do.
+
+35:28.120 --> 35:32.000
+If you want to do a correct risk benefit analysis,
+
+35:32.000 --> 35:35.080
+you have to take into account that the risk of harm,
+
+35:35.080 --> 35:37.560
+the risk of death, increases exponentially
+
+35:37.560 --> 35:39.320
+with age for God's sakes.
+
+35:39.320 --> 35:42.560
+So that has to fold in.
+
+35:42.560 --> 35:44.600
+And they're not doing that whatsoever.
+
+35:44.600 --> 35:46.720
+They're assuming a flat line.
+
+35:46.720 --> 35:49.240
+And that's part of the problem.
+
+35:49.240 --> 35:53.000
+So the booster is what we see in our data
+
+35:53.000 --> 35:56.400
+is that the boosters are definitely more toxic as you
+
+35:56.400 --> 35:59.120
+go to more and more advanced rates.
+
+35:59.120 --> 36:05.280
+So I can show you, by age, in a country that has good data,
+
+36:05.280 --> 36:09.200
+doses 1 and 2, you get this exponential rise.
+
+36:09.200 --> 36:11.920
+But then the first booster, it's higher.
+
+36:11.920 --> 36:16.240
+It's the same doubling time, but it's a higher rise.
+
+36:16.240 --> 36:18.520
+And then those four, it's an even higher rise.
+
+36:18.520 --> 36:21.600
+And that systematically occurs every time.
+
+36:21.600 --> 36:23.320
+I really think that makes perfect sense
+
+36:23.320 --> 36:27.040
+with what we think the prevailing immunological mechanism
+
+36:27.040 --> 36:28.480
+is, and every time you activate it,
+
+36:28.480 --> 36:32.400
+you have potentially more of a catastrophic reaction.
+
+36:32.400 --> 36:35.680
+Yeah, a simple-minded person, like I described this in our paper,
+
+36:35.680 --> 36:41.720
+we compare the vaccines to being exposed to a toxic substance.
+
+36:41.720 --> 36:45.480
+And in that field, when you look at toxicology studies
+
+36:45.480 --> 36:48.360
+and so on, if the animal or the subject hasn't
+
+36:48.360 --> 36:51.000
+had time to recover from a first dose,
+
+36:51.000 --> 36:55.280
+then the second dose adds significant more damage.
+
+36:55.280 --> 36:57.000
+It's often it's not even linear.
+
+36:57.000 --> 37:00.040
+And then you can induce death that way.
+
+37:00.040 --> 37:03.120
+So successive doses, in a short enough time
+
+37:03.120 --> 37:06.280
+that you don't recover from the damage from the last dose,
+
+37:06.280 --> 37:08.240
+will do that, will do that as well.
+
+37:08.240 --> 37:10.680
+That's just a really simple-minded approach,
+
+37:10.680 --> 37:15.160
+ignoring all the immunological theory, right?
+
+37:15.160 --> 37:17.280
+Yeah, but that's in a way very powerful.
+
+37:17.280 --> 37:19.920
+I mean, that's what you want.
+
+37:19.920 --> 37:21.120
+Yeah, yeah.
+
+37:21.120 --> 37:25.600
+You want signals that emerge despite trying to miss them,
+
+37:25.600 --> 37:28.920
+despite trying to account for all.
+
+37:28.920 --> 37:30.480
+I mean, I think it's brilliant.
+
+37:30.480 --> 37:34.120
+And because also it gives me hope,
+
+37:34.120 --> 37:36.280
+because there is also this possibility
+
+37:36.280 --> 37:39.320
+that they had scrambled the numbers sufficiently
+
+37:39.320 --> 37:42.840
+so that the signal would be gone.
+
+37:42.840 --> 37:47.360
+Well, you know, the numbers, the data is scrambled
+
+37:47.360 --> 37:49.400
+when you look at all ages data.
+
+37:49.400 --> 37:54.400
+It's a lot harder to see the synchronicities
+
+37:54.400 --> 37:56.280
+and the correlations in time
+
+37:56.280 --> 37:59.080
+with data that's not discriminated by age group.
+
+37:59.080 --> 38:01.360
+Because, in fact, is exponential, you see?
+
+38:01.360 --> 38:03.720
+And because they're vaccinating different ages
+
+38:03.720 --> 38:07.440
+at different times, you get a lot of scrambling there.
+
+38:07.440 --> 38:09.560
+So the first people who looked at this
+
+38:09.560 --> 38:11.400
+who would just do the easiest thing,
+
+38:11.400 --> 38:13.720
+they'd wave their arms and say,
+
+38:13.720 --> 38:16.160
+I can't see anything here.
+
+38:16.160 --> 38:19.000
+But then once you start to discriminate by age,
+
+38:19.000 --> 38:22.000
+oh my God, these signals just come right out, you know?
+
+38:23.120 --> 38:23.960
+Yeah.
+
+38:23.960 --> 38:26.960
+Well, basically before you discriminate by age,
+
+38:26.960 --> 38:30.040
+you're comparing a potato to a potato.
+
+38:30.040 --> 38:32.560
+And then as soon as you have a given age group,
+
+38:32.560 --> 38:34.360
+you've got a series of spikes.
+
+38:34.360 --> 38:37.880
+Instead of a potato, it's like a series of spikes, you see?
+
+38:37.880 --> 38:38.920
+Yep.
+
+38:38.920 --> 38:39.760
+Yep.
+
+38:39.760 --> 38:42.760
+So it's very interesting in that sense.
+
+38:43.600 --> 38:45.440
+So our next paper, Jay, is going to be,
+
+38:45.440 --> 38:47.080
+what is your next paper?
+
+38:47.080 --> 38:50.480
+Our next paper is going to be more than 125 countries.
+
+38:50.480 --> 38:52.600
+We're just going to do the whole world.
+
+38:52.600 --> 38:54.920
+And we're almost done.
+
+38:54.920 --> 38:57.640
+We've got all the data analysis done and everything.
+
+38:57.640 --> 39:01.000
+And we're just setting it up to illustrate it as best we can.
+
+39:01.000 --> 39:03.000
+And we found some stunning results.
+
+39:03.920 --> 39:07.920
+Really interesting results that teach you a lot about health
+
+39:07.920 --> 39:10.480
+and about the nature of what happens
+
+39:10.480 --> 39:12.440
+when you do this on the world, right?
+
+39:13.360 --> 39:16.040
+So we're hoping to get this next paper out
+
+39:16.040 --> 39:17.240
+within a month or two.
+
+39:18.240 --> 39:21.880
+And we're working full blast for this one.
+
+39:21.880 --> 39:25.680
+We're using a statistical method called cluster analysis
+
+39:25.680 --> 39:30.440
+in order to find the countries that had similar behaviors
+
+39:30.440 --> 39:32.360
+in terms of their mortality.
+
+39:32.360 --> 39:35.400
+And we find these very definite clusters come out
+
+39:35.400 --> 39:38.040
+across different continents and so on
+
+39:38.040 --> 39:41.120
+that we can ascribe, that we can interpret
+
+39:41.120 --> 39:43.320
+in terms of what was going on there.
+
+39:43.320 --> 39:45.720
+So it's very neat.
+
+39:45.720 --> 39:49.760
+So kind of an habit to show do countries behave the same or not.
+
+39:49.760 --> 39:53.160
+So if you just look at a bunch of all cosmortality curves,
+
+39:53.160 --> 39:56.240
+one after the other, it's hard to make head or tail out of it
+
+39:56.240 --> 39:59.560
+because they can be so different and they're all over the place.
+
+39:59.560 --> 40:02.680
+And but if you use a statistical method to say,
+
+40:02.680 --> 40:05.440
+well, which of these belong together, you know,
+
+40:05.440 --> 40:09.080
+that kind of thing, you start to see these patterns
+
+40:09.080 --> 40:12.640
+and you start to then you look for factors
+
+40:12.640 --> 40:14.280
+that correlate to that behavior
+
+40:14.280 --> 40:16.400
+and you can say intelligent things.
+
+40:16.400 --> 40:17.960
+So that's our next paper.
+
+40:17.960 --> 40:20.280
+We're going to show how you can do that.
+
+40:20.280 --> 40:21.800
+And what can you give us a teaser?
+
+40:21.800 --> 40:22.920
+Like what kinds of things?
+
+40:22.920 --> 40:25.040
+Is it protocols that correlate?
+
+40:25.040 --> 40:27.600
+OK, OK.
+
+40:27.600 --> 40:30.240
+What are the main signals that comes out?
+
+40:30.240 --> 40:36.160
+It's really stunning, is the incredibly large mortality
+
+40:36.160 --> 40:38.640
+that happened before the COVID,
+
+40:38.640 --> 40:41.000
+before the vaccines were rolled out
+
+40:41.040 --> 40:43.480
+in the Eastern bloc in Russia,
+
+40:43.480 --> 40:45.480
+in Russia and the Eastern bloc countries,
+
+40:45.480 --> 40:48.040
+had huge mortality, OK?
+
+40:48.040 --> 40:49.840
+And it wasn't, this is interesting
+
+40:49.840 --> 40:53.400
+because it didn't occur right after the pandemic was announced.
+
+40:53.400 --> 40:56.920
+They didn't have that spike that the Western world had.
+
+40:56.920 --> 40:59.240
+But then the winter that followed,
+
+40:59.240 --> 41:03.400
+after, you know, almost a year of going crazy with,
+
+41:03.400 --> 41:05.120
+we have to save ourselves,
+
+41:05.120 --> 41:09.120
+the winter that followed was incredibly destructive.
+
+41:09.120 --> 41:10.120
+Wow.
+
+41:10.120 --> 41:11.000
+Huge mortality.
+
+41:11.000 --> 41:17.600
+And we believe that that is related to the safety net
+
+41:17.600 --> 41:20.400
+that baby boomers lost at the dissolution
+
+41:20.400 --> 41:23.760
+of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s.
+
+41:23.760 --> 41:25.520
+So these are the people at the ages
+
+41:25.520 --> 41:28.840
+that are vulnerable to die at high risk of dying.
+
+41:28.840 --> 41:31.040
+They no longer have the safety net
+
+41:31.040 --> 41:33.040
+that the state was guaranteeing for them.
+
+41:33.040 --> 41:34.640
+They're in, you know, they're in poverty.
+
+41:34.640 --> 41:37.600
+They're in difficult times.
+
+41:37.600 --> 41:41.000
+And the government is coming in and threatening
+
+41:41.000 --> 41:44.880
+to vaccinating them, starting to roll out the flu shots
+
+41:44.880 --> 41:47.240
+and forcing them to be isolated,
+
+41:47.240 --> 41:50.960
+forcing them, you know, to be psychologically stressed
+
+41:50.960 --> 41:55.560
+and so on, massive deaths in that group.
+
+41:55.560 --> 41:56.680
+Wow.
+
+41:56.680 --> 41:57.680
+Yeah.
+
+41:57.680 --> 41:59.840
+That's going to be a story inside of stories
+
+41:59.840 --> 42:01.280
+that it sounds like to me.
+
+42:01.280 --> 42:04.040
+Yeah, we've got a lot of stories inside of stories
+
+42:04.040 --> 42:06.280
+when we start looking at the world like that.
+
+42:06.280 --> 42:07.560
+Yes.
+
+42:07.560 --> 42:10.080
+And the beautiful thing about looking at the world too
+
+42:10.080 --> 42:12.720
+is it's a really beautiful illustration
+
+42:12.720 --> 42:15.120
+of epidemiology itself.
+
+42:15.120 --> 42:18.880
+You know, you see this no seasonal pattern
+
+42:18.880 --> 42:20.600
+in the equatorial region.
+
+42:20.600 --> 42:22.800
+It's reversed in the southern hemisphere.
+
+42:22.800 --> 42:25.920
+It's the other way in the northern hemisphere.
+
+42:25.920 --> 42:28.120
+The magnitude changes with latitude,
+
+42:28.120 --> 42:31.440
+but you also have the underlying population effects.
+
+42:31.440 --> 42:33.720
+So it's quite fascinating.
+
+42:33.720 --> 42:36.840
+The thing I regret most is that we can't have data
+
+42:36.920 --> 42:39.120
+for China, they won't give it.
+
+42:39.120 --> 42:41.840
+And there's no data for equatorial Africa,
+
+42:41.840 --> 42:44.400
+which would be really important.
+
+42:44.400 --> 42:46.120
+But then again, if we were,
+
+42:46.120 --> 42:49.880
+if we were getting good mortality data in equatorial Africa,
+
+42:49.880 --> 42:52.080
+that would probably put a lot of pressure
+
+42:52.080 --> 42:54.400
+on the people who exploit those countries
+
+42:54.400 --> 42:58.440
+to stop being so violent and so cruel.
+
+43:01.080 --> 43:04.080
+So maybe, you know, it kind of goes together.
+
+43:04.080 --> 43:06.840
+They're totally oppressed and exploited,
+
+43:06.840 --> 43:09.640
+and we don't know anything about their mortality.
+
+43:11.080 --> 43:12.440
+Crazy, I had no idea that.
+
+43:12.440 --> 43:15.840
+That must've been a kind of a surprising find or not
+
+43:15.840 --> 43:16.680
+that that was...
+
+43:16.680 --> 43:18.520
+Yes, when we make a map of the world,
+
+43:18.520 --> 43:21.760
+the middle of Africa is white because there's no data.
+
+43:21.760 --> 43:24.760
+That is not a good sign for living in Africa.
+
+43:24.760 --> 43:26.480
+You cannot find data.
+
+43:26.480 --> 43:30.680
+And the people who project and who guess the data,
+
+43:30.680 --> 43:33.680
+like the UN does this, it's completely unreliable.
+
+43:34.280 --> 43:35.760
+Wow.
+
+43:35.760 --> 43:36.600
+Yeah.
+
+43:36.600 --> 43:39.160
+That is terrifying, actually, if you think about it.
+
+43:39.160 --> 43:42.120
+If you live in a place where the UN does not have data
+
+43:42.120 --> 43:45.520
+on all cause mortality, that must mean bad things.
+
+43:45.520 --> 43:46.440
+Yeah.
+
+43:46.440 --> 43:47.520
+Yeah.
+
+43:47.520 --> 43:49.680
+So those are the kinds of things you discover
+
+43:49.680 --> 43:53.760
+when you start to take a broad brush approach to all of this.
+
+43:56.320 --> 43:57.320
+Yep.
+
+43:57.320 --> 43:59.640
+Well, I appreciate your flexibility here.
+
+43:59.640 --> 44:02.120
+And this, you've been, you've been just fabulous.
+
+44:02.120 --> 44:03.160
+I didn't mean to cut you off,
+
+44:03.160 --> 44:05.760
+but I feel like I'm taking too much of your time now
+
+44:05.760 --> 44:08.280
+given the deal we had.
+
+44:09.800 --> 44:12.240
+It was a pleasure to be here, as always.
+
+44:12.240 --> 44:14.240
+I think I was here once or twice before.
+
+44:14.240 --> 44:15.080
+Yes.
+
+44:15.080 --> 44:16.080
+And we should have you again,
+
+44:16.080 --> 44:18.640
+especially if you're gonna have another paper out.
+
+44:18.640 --> 44:21.840
+It was really, I'm happy that we have this connection now
+
+44:21.840 --> 44:25.680
+so that we can get an article in the defender right away
+
+44:25.680 --> 44:29.040
+and that we can get the rest of the network away
+
+44:29.040 --> 44:30.320
+as soon as the thing is out there.
+
+44:30.320 --> 44:33.000
+So just keep me in the loop.
+
+44:33.000 --> 44:34.640
+I will absolutely do that.
+
+44:34.640 --> 44:35.400
+Yes.
+
+44:35.400 --> 44:37.320
+And I'm sorry again for screwing up the time
+
+44:37.320 --> 44:38.960
+and thank you for being so flexible
+
+44:38.960 --> 44:40.360
+that we actually caught Peter anyway.
+
+44:40.360 --> 44:42.440
+I apologize, I've done it myself.
+
+44:42.440 --> 44:44.080
+I think you did an excellent job.
+
+44:44.080 --> 44:45.920
+I think Peter's got some stuff to think about.
+
+44:45.920 --> 44:47.680
+And if he didn't have an interview light after this,
+
+44:47.680 --> 44:49.320
+I bet he'd still be talking to us.
+
+44:51.080 --> 44:51.920
+Yeah.
+
+44:51.920 --> 44:52.760
+Yeah.
+
+44:52.760 --> 44:55.480
+Yeah, I think it gave him things that he didn't,
+
+44:55.480 --> 44:57.480
+he didn't go to the place where,
+
+44:57.480 --> 44:59.840
+no, no, there was the COVID was a terrible thing.
+
+44:59.840 --> 45:02.240
+We could have saved people by treating it.
+
+45:02.240 --> 45:03.120
+He didn't go there.
+
+45:03.120 --> 45:03.880
+No, he didn't.
+
+45:03.880 --> 45:07.840
+And he did when I interviewed him a few months ago.
+
+45:09.160 --> 45:11.240
+And so I do think there's been movement
+
+45:11.240 --> 45:13.240
+and also you may not be aware,
+
+45:13.240 --> 45:15.840
+but he actually basically came out
+
+45:15.840 --> 45:18.800
+and questioned the vaccine schedule in America
+
+45:18.800 --> 45:20.560
+a couple of weeks ago,
+
+45:20.560 --> 45:23.320
+which was, he also admitted was a first for him.
+
+45:24.840 --> 45:26.400
+He might be shifting
+
+45:26.400 --> 45:28.840
+and this may have been a very big meeting.
+
+45:28.840 --> 45:32.720
+So let's make many people are evolving.
+
+45:32.720 --> 45:34.400
+I've met a lot of immunologists
+
+45:34.400 --> 45:37.760
+who are questioning fundamental immunology, you know,
+
+45:37.760 --> 45:38.600
+themselves.
+
+45:38.600 --> 45:39.960
+They've come to it there.
+
+45:39.960 --> 45:42.680
+Well, it's fundamental to fundamental immunology
+
+45:42.680 --> 45:45.200
+is that respiratory viruses are fought off
+
+45:45.200 --> 45:47.960
+by seroprevalence antibodies.
+
+45:47.960 --> 45:50.800
+And then they definitely need to revamp it.
+
+45:50.800 --> 45:51.640
+Goodness sakes.
+
+45:53.160 --> 45:55.280
+Okay, well, thank you very much for joining me, Danny.
+
+45:55.280 --> 45:57.240
+And I will, I'm just so pleased
+
+45:57.240 --> 46:00.240
+that we became friends and please stay in touch
+
+46:00.240 --> 46:01.240
+and I'll have you on again in time.
+
+46:01.240 --> 46:02.080
+I'm here.
+
+46:02.080 --> 46:03.080
+Okay, thank you.
+
+46:03.080 --> 46:03.920
+Thank you.
+
+46:03.920 --> 46:04.760
+Bye-bye now.
+
+46:06.600 --> 46:10.080
+Wow, I gotta tell you guys, I really,
+
+46:11.440 --> 46:12.760
+I really blew that time.
+
+46:12.760 --> 46:16.520
+So Peter is in central time
+
+46:16.520 --> 46:19.280
+and he said six o'clock,
+
+46:19.280 --> 46:22.240
+which is seven o'clock our time.
+
+46:22.240 --> 46:25.400
+And I for some reason thought for the,
+
+46:25.400 --> 46:27.720
+since I put it in my calendar,
+
+46:27.720 --> 46:30.960
+that it was seven o'clock my time, six o'clock Peter's time.
+
+46:30.960 --> 46:33.680
+And since Denny and I are in the same time zone,
+
+46:33.680 --> 46:35.320
+that made sense.
+
+46:35.320 --> 46:40.320
+But actually, which is super annoying in my calendar,
+
+46:40.600 --> 46:42.320
+it starts at six p.m.
+
+46:42.320 --> 46:45.040
+So all I had to do was look at my calendar
+
+46:45.040 --> 46:47.840
+and I would have known that it's not at seven at six.
+
+46:47.840 --> 46:49.360
+And lucky for me,
+
+46:49.360 --> 46:51.240
+Denny was flexible.
+
+46:51.240 --> 46:54.120
+Peter logged back in and we caught him at six 30
+
+46:54.120 --> 46:57.280
+and we got Denny to give him a 20 minute elevator pitch.
+
+46:58.400 --> 47:00.520
+Actually Peter even started the show for me
+
+47:00.520 --> 47:03.400
+because I was so frazzled that I said,
+
+47:03.400 --> 47:04.960
+no, no, you guys are already live.
+
+47:04.960 --> 47:06.320
+Just start.
+
+47:06.320 --> 47:08.120
+And so then Peter actually opened the show.
+
+47:08.120 --> 47:10.080
+There was no intro.
+
+47:10.080 --> 47:12.880
+One of the sloppiest shows of my life,
+
+47:12.880 --> 47:17.880
+but at least we had a nice backdrop for our council fire.
+
+47:18.880 --> 47:21.880
+I thought that worked really, really well.
+
+47:21.880 --> 47:26.120
+I was actually super pleased with the council fire.
+
+47:26.120 --> 47:27.280
+I don't know if I can do this.
+
+47:27.280 --> 47:29.120
+Oh, I wanted to do it like that.
+
+47:30.040 --> 47:31.000
+This was pretty good, right?
+
+47:31.000 --> 47:32.120
+I mean, it looks nice.
+
+47:33.520 --> 47:36.080
+And so the next time I have a couple of guests on,
+
+47:37.920 --> 47:39.760
+I will go with the council fire again.
+
+47:39.760 --> 47:40.600
+I like that.
+
+47:41.760 --> 47:43.920
+I have to recruit my boy to get a little better fire
+
+47:43.920 --> 47:44.880
+going in the beginning there,
+
+47:44.880 --> 47:47.360
+but they almost started the rest of the,
+
+47:47.360 --> 47:49.120
+the rest of the, the yard on fire.
+
+47:49.120 --> 47:51.160
+That was kind of funny when they were thrown in the cardboard.
+
+47:51.160 --> 47:52.360
+I don't know if you noticed that.
+
+47:52.360 --> 47:54.320
+Anyway, I'm going to cut it shorty here
+
+47:54.320 --> 47:57.560
+because I think it's a beautiful show as it is.
+
+47:57.560 --> 47:59.200
+And I don't want to ruin something
+
+47:59.200 --> 48:01.320
+that turned out much better than it should have given
+
+48:01.320 --> 48:02.200
+that I dropped the ball.
+
+48:02.200 --> 48:04.240
+Thank you very much for joining me.
+
+48:04.240 --> 48:06.440
+This has been GIGO Biological High Resistance
+
+48:06.440 --> 48:08.560
+Illinois Information Brief.
+
+48:08.560 --> 48:10.720
+Brought to you by a biologist.
+
+48:11.720 --> 48:15.440
+This was a council fire with,
+
+48:18.200 --> 48:19.800
+this is what I would have had.
+
+48:23.320 --> 48:26.360
+And I've been not dropping the ball.
+
+48:30.160 --> 48:31.800
+This is what I would have had.
+
+48:31.800 --> 48:33.240
+Oh, whoops.
+
+48:40.720 --> 48:45.720
+This is what we did tonight.
+
+48:46.000 --> 48:51.000
+It was a council fire with Denny Rancor and Peter McCullough.
+
+48:51.240 --> 48:54.680
+And it was an excellent, excellent show.
+
+48:54.680 --> 48:55.680
+I really enjoyed it.
+
+48:58.040 --> 49:00.960
+I'm still trying to figure out how to use this.
+
+49:02.680 --> 49:05.200
+I guess I got, I switched my cameras around.
+
+49:06.480 --> 49:10.000
+I was, I was scrambling for my cameras
+
+49:10.000 --> 49:11.840
+like at the last minute.
+
+49:11.840 --> 49:14.520
+And then I got the mail at 10 after six.
+
+49:14.520 --> 49:16.800
+We thought it was at six o'clock.
+
+49:16.800 --> 49:21.800
+And so I had to like plug in four HDMI cables
+
+49:22.800 --> 49:26.160
+in their right place, turn on three star two computers
+
+49:26.160 --> 49:28.840
+and set up the stream in less than a minute
+
+49:28.840 --> 49:32.080
+and then get zoom going anyway.
+
+49:32.080 --> 49:34.560
+I blew it, but it didn't go bad.
+
+49:34.560 --> 49:39.560
+And that's because Denny and Peter really needed to meet.
+
+49:39.560 --> 49:42.360
+And so I'm humbled and honored that they got to meet
+
+49:42.360 --> 49:43.480
+on this show.
+
+49:43.480 --> 49:44.320
+Thanks for joining me.
+
+49:44.320 --> 49:45.320
+I'll see you tomorrow.
+
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+All oh.
+
+04:09.000 --> 04:10.000
+That's all right.
+
+04:10.000 --> 04:11.000
+All right.
+
+04:11.000 --> 04:14.080
+I guess he can explain it to the sheriff when he gets here.
+
+04:14.080 --> 04:15.960
+I bet you kids are starving.
+
+04:15.960 --> 04:16.960
+Groovy!
+
+04:16.960 --> 04:18.640
+So, wait! That's for me!
+
+04:21.440 --> 04:23.680
+Hey, what's this?
+
+04:23.680 --> 04:26.640
+Scooby-Booze was here.
+
+04:26.640 --> 04:28.640
+The whole turkey!
+
+04:28.640 --> 04:29.640
+Go on!
+
+04:29.640 --> 04:30.640
+Whoo!
+
+04:30.640 --> 04:32.640
+Well...
+
+04:32.640 --> 04:34.640
+Scooby, here we go!
+
+04:41.000 --> 05:04.840
+Are we doing the stand to join the city of the age?
+
+05:04.840 --> 05:06.840
+Yes, two days ago.
+
+05:06.840 --> 05:08.840
+One side state your seat.
+
+05:08.840 --> 05:13.840
+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+05:13.840 --> 05:18.520
+This is Giga on Biological, a high-resistance low-noise information brief brought to you
+
+05:18.520 --> 05:19.520
+by a biologist.
+
+05:19.520 --> 05:22.120
+It's the 3rd of October, 2023.
+
+05:22.120 --> 05:28.960
+You don't understand Mr. Brown.
+
+05:28.960 --> 05:34.960
+The bottom is a holy weapon.
+
+05:34.960 --> 05:36.440
+Yes.
+
+05:36.440 --> 05:38.800
+Thanks very much for the compliments for yesterday's show.
+
+05:38.800 --> 05:44.720
+I have to admit that after screwing up a time, all I had to do was really sit there and
+
+05:44.720 --> 05:49.440
+then watch the fire go out, basically.
+
+05:49.440 --> 05:54.520
+It was wonderful because I think we really saw two people meet and discuss something
+
+05:54.520 --> 05:57.840
+that they both had very strong views about it.
+
+05:57.840 --> 06:01.960
+I do think that Peter was a little bit freed by that discussion.
+
+06:01.960 --> 06:12.600
+I saw a little bit of weightless thought on the show because I thought it was wonderful.
+
+06:12.600 --> 06:19.760
+Because I do think that Peter has been trapped, Peter has been pinched, Peter, you can see
+
+06:19.760 --> 06:20.760
+his heart broken.
+
+06:20.760 --> 06:28.600
+I just don't see Peter as the same way that I see other people in this mess.
+
+06:29.600 --> 06:37.640
+I see a good guy there and like Pierre Cori, actually, I see people that came out the earliest
+
+06:37.640 --> 06:43.600
+are actually very visually distressed because they are holding back.
+
+06:43.600 --> 06:50.880
+They were pigeonholed or co-opted, you know, people and students came to them and said,
+
+06:50.880 --> 06:56.080
+you know, I know you can see the brick wall at the back of the theater if you want to
+
+06:56.080 --> 07:00.280
+keep doing what you're doing, then you better follow our instructions because now's the
+
+07:00.280 --> 07:08.560
+time to do what you're told and, you know, in a way, we are the ones who have to free
+
+07:08.560 --> 07:14.560
+those people because we have to make room for them to come out, we have to make room
+
+07:14.560 --> 07:19.920
+for them to bring forth the truth because the truth is definitely out there.
+
+07:19.920 --> 07:27.240
+I can feel it and there's people just waiting to break this narrative, but they need to
+
+07:27.240 --> 07:34.600
+feel safe and that means Cori and Peter McCullough, these people need to feel like there's enough
+
+07:34.600 --> 07:41.800
+of us before they're going to come full across the line and say, hey, you know what, we got
+
+07:41.800 --> 07:49.720
+phone calls, people came to my house and this is all that crap.
+
+07:49.720 --> 07:57.480
+I think it's possible, I think it's actually really possible, I'm starting to almost believe
+
+07:57.480 --> 08:04.120
+it when I wake up in the morning and I can tell you when you start to believe something
+
+08:04.120 --> 08:09.280
+when you wake up in the morning, it's a really special thing.
+
+08:09.280 --> 08:14.600
+I've started to have hope when I wake up and it's weird because it's been a while since
+
+08:14.600 --> 08:19.480
+I've been able to wake up like that, so I hope that you also are starting to feel a little
+
+08:19.480 --> 08:28.720
+shift in the uncertainty, a little increase in the, I don't know, in the cacophony that
+
+08:28.720 --> 08:35.320
+should be there of people screaming and yelling about why we need to back the truck up, so to speak,
+
+08:35.320 --> 08:43.480
+not take the bait on TV and social media. I find the crickets rather relaxing if you want my honest
+
+08:43.480 --> 08:49.480
+truth. I miss them in the winter time and I definitely miss them in the spring when it's warming
+
+08:49.480 --> 08:53.240
+up to sit outside, but they're not there yet and I don't even remember as a kid when they first
+
+08:53.240 --> 08:58.760
+came, but it always feels like they're coming later and later, but at least they're there now.
+
+08:58.760 --> 09:05.000
+I really like the ones that sit up in the tree and make the really harsh every once in a while,
+
+09:05.000 --> 09:10.840
+they're really cool. I have no idea what those are, at our old house we used to be able to hear
+
+09:10.840 --> 09:15.320
+frogs in the trees too, but there are no frogs here in the city, at least I don't really hear
+
+09:15.320 --> 09:20.520
+them, not like I did out there. So we're here tonight to kind of discuss the Scooby-Doo, I don't
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+09:20.520 --> 09:26.600
+have a guest, I don't have a super big plan, I have some videos lined up, and if you want to
+
+09:26.600 --> 09:31.880
+throw in some mean comments in the chat or something like that I'll block you, and if you want to
+
+09:31.880 --> 09:38.520
+throw in some questions I'll try and answer them. Good to see everybody in the chat, I'll try and
+
+09:38.520 --> 09:43.480
+read some stuff, I see Pamela's here and I'm really happy to see her, I see Marcus here,
+
+09:44.920 --> 09:50.680
+a lot of the same people that are here every night, and so I don't know what you guys are doing here,
+
+09:50.680 --> 09:55.240
+but thanks a lot for making this happen, I hope you guys are tweeting it out or
+
+09:55.240 --> 10:01.960
+Facebooking it or whatever the hell you do. It is not a matter of what is true that counts,
+
+10:01.960 --> 10:07.800
+but a matter of what is perceived to be true, this is something that was first said by,
+
+10:08.840 --> 10:12.440
+at least I know that, it's a particular quote as coming from Kissinger,
+
+10:13.960 --> 10:20.920
+and we have been thinking about this people map, trying to sort out how it is that we were
+
+10:20.920 --> 10:27.480
+brought to understand, I have a lot of stuff in my throat tonight, I apologize, but I think
+
+10:27.480 --> 10:35.480
+that's a good sign like things are moving. How did we get here where we thought that there was a
+
+10:35.480 --> 10:43.400
+magical new sequence of RNA that was capable of disrupting a planet, and indeed became
+
+10:43.400 --> 10:49.720
+convinced worldwide that this was true? I think that the way to look around now is to really just
+
+10:49.720 --> 10:54.440
+evaluate people on whether they're being honest about this, if they're not using the word
+
+10:54.520 --> 11:01.080
+transfection yet, and they're on TV and whatnot, you can pretty much bet that they've been instructed
+
+11:01.080 --> 11:07.560
+not to, and so I don't blame anybody for that, I'm just saying that I think that's where that
+
+11:07.560 --> 11:13.160
+problem sits, and I think that more and more people are coming to realize, at least in the
+
+11:13.160 --> 11:21.160
+United States, that the immunization schedule in the United States is absurd, and indeed, I think
+
+11:21.160 --> 11:30.040
+at some point, I think one of my best predictions is that this above statement here is going to
+
+11:30.040 --> 11:36.520
+become common knowledge in five to ten years at max, but it could be as short as six months.
+
+11:39.960 --> 11:47.800
+Automobile noise is not so great as crickets. I really think that this is the right way to
+
+11:48.680 --> 11:54.760
+think about this for now, because what it does is it really describes the absurdity,
+
+11:55.720 --> 12:01.960
+and that's how you want these bench immunologists and these people who are trapped inside of what
+
+12:01.960 --> 12:11.000
+we've been calling the immunomethology, that they need to understand why it is, they need to ask
+
+12:11.000 --> 12:16.200
+that question, how can you say that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances
+
+12:16.200 --> 12:21.560
+with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb? Try to make that make sense to me,
+
+12:22.360 --> 12:27.720
+and then you can draw that very simple picture of the immune system that I've drawn a couple times,
+
+12:28.520 --> 12:38.040
+and I think I drew also on Amadmalaik's podcast, which I think will come out maybe tomorrow,
+
+12:39.480 --> 12:45.400
+and I think that's my strategy for the next month or so as we move to Halloween,
+
+12:45.400 --> 12:54.920
+and through to Thanksgiving, is to try to get people drilled in on that diagram and on that
+
+12:54.920 --> 12:59.080
+pitch so that we can also describe how
+
+13:02.760 --> 13:09.880
+kids left the game on. I have to get up and turn that off. The way that we can describe this at
+
+13:09.880 --> 13:14.280
+the Thanksgiving table, the way that we can describe this to our family and friends over the holidays,
+
+13:14.280 --> 13:18.840
+this has to be our strategy. This is the next window of opportunity for us to,
+
+13:19.800 --> 13:25.880
+and we're not going to be able to convince everyone. What we're looking to be is ready for that one
+
+13:25.880 --> 13:32.280
+person who you hear at the table with some questions, who's able to not completely just keep their
+
+13:32.280 --> 13:40.280
+mouth shut, that after dinner, when everybody's, you know, commiserating and loosening the button
+
+13:40.760 --> 13:46.360
+on their pants, you can sit down with football and say, hey, I heard what you said at the dinner
+
+13:46.360 --> 13:52.680
+table, you know, I've been watching this show and you can tell them where Giga Home is and we can,
+
+13:52.680 --> 13:59.480
+we can get them there because this is how we do it. And then in the next six or eight months,
+
+13:59.480 --> 14:06.280
+if there's enough of a movement, enough movement of the needle, then people who were good from the
+
+14:06.280 --> 14:13.800
+beginning, who were co-opted by force, who were co-opted by national security priorities,
+
+14:14.440 --> 14:20.680
+by dudes in suits, some of those people might feel the courage to finally come forward and say,
+
+14:20.680 --> 14:26.920
+hey, you're right. This was, we got to do something because that's what we really need to break this,
+
+14:26.920 --> 14:32.440
+that's what we really need. And this, I think, is the way to think about it and the way to try and
+
+14:32.520 --> 14:39.720
+bring it. If you can understand why this is the right way to say it, or if you can understand
+
+14:39.720 --> 14:47.160
+why this is a good way to say it, then you will also be able to explain in a pretty succinct way
+
+14:47.160 --> 14:53.560
+why it's a good way to say it. And that's the key to it is that's the key to being able to teach
+
+14:53.560 --> 14:59.080
+this, even if you're not a master, but you can make this argument to an immunologist. And if they
+
+14:59.080 --> 15:04.600
+know the immunology, they should also know that what you're saying makes sense, wasted too much
+
+15:04.600 --> 15:10.360
+time on that, I apologize. So we're trying to go through this people map, and we've been spending a
+
+15:10.360 --> 15:16.200
+lot of time watching old videos, and I think it's really paying off, because we found lots of leads,
+
+15:16.920 --> 15:23.880
+and we've tipped things in different directions. That little shift down there was not meant so much
+
+15:23.880 --> 15:33.800
+as a day gone on RFK Jr. as a promotion of Peter McCollum to the green zone. After my discussion with
+
+15:33.800 --> 15:44.440
+him and Denny Rancur, I really feel as though, I guess it's, I don't know how to say his French
+
+15:44.440 --> 15:52.760
+last name, but I know his first name is Denny, and it should be really Denny. He is really such a
+
+15:52.760 --> 16:01.080
+wonderful orator about this stuff. But I think that one person in particular has made it very clear
+
+16:01.080 --> 16:11.640
+that we still need to iron out a little bit of not necessarily what what Denny says or how he says
+
+16:11.640 --> 16:19.320
+it, but what he really means and what his data has with respect to looking at all cause mortality
+
+16:19.320 --> 16:26.920
+and where the excess all cause mortality comes from. And so we do have work to do, but I think
+
+16:26.920 --> 16:31.400
+it's really nice because we've really made this connection, and it's easy for me to pick up the
+
+16:31.400 --> 16:38.600
+phone and call Denny. And so we're trying to come up with a sort of succinct way to ask him useful
+
+16:38.600 --> 16:43.800
+questions that will really get him to to nail down what his data shows and what his data doesn't,
+
+16:43.800 --> 16:51.720
+and maybe even help to him to interpret it in a more biologically relevant way and an
+
+16:51.720 --> 16:58.600
+epidemiologically relevant way, given the, given the parameters of the narrative. I don't even know
+
+16:58.600 --> 17:04.200
+if I said anything there, I could have been all bullshit. We've also been looking at these
+
+17:04.760 --> 17:10.680
+individuals. I did not hear the live broadcast today, but it's my understanding that there was a
+
+17:10.680 --> 17:18.440
+live broadcast involving George Webb today, where he was talking about a rassness lab. And I also
+
+17:18.440 --> 17:26.360
+mentioned myself and Mark again, we have made very clear connections between George Webb, Robert
+
+17:26.360 --> 17:32.520
+Malone, Paul Catrell, and here at funded boss, not all four of them together playing poker, but
+
+17:32.520 --> 17:39.160
+rather they're all united by Robert Malone in a very weird way. And Robert Malone has associations
+
+17:39.160 --> 17:50.120
+with or has essentially promoted all of these people. And they have promoted him. And this is
+
+17:50.120 --> 17:58.600
+really a key sort of observation that might not have happened. Hadn't Mark and I been insistent
+
+17:59.240 --> 18:11.960
+about sort of calling Dr. Paul Catrell the fake, what would he say, Dr. Bus Rider MD,
+
+18:11.960 --> 18:20.360
+that he is. Now, I don't really want to disparage anyone or to say bad names or make fun. I guess
+
+18:20.360 --> 18:28.840
+we can make fun. And so if we make fun of the tall tales and the the tales of woe that that
+
+18:28.840 --> 18:34.680
+Paul Catrell shared at the beginning of the pandemic, right mixed in in the context of,
+
+18:34.680 --> 18:39.080
+you know, taking secret messages from Taiwan that included that only Remdesivir worked,
+
+18:39.880 --> 18:48.360
+and being aware of all of the basic accepted parameters of a red dragon. And also, I don't know,
+
+18:48.360 --> 18:55.000
+being being aware of the the other receptors that would claim to bind the spike protein later
+
+18:55.000 --> 19:03.000
+on in the narrative he was on CD 147 before anyone else, for example. So it's just very strange that
+
+19:03.560 --> 19:09.960
+as this little wall of people starts to get flashlights shined on them from the wrong angles,
+
+19:10.520 --> 19:16.840
+you start to see the scenery behind them for what it is. And it's starting to appear
+
+19:17.560 --> 19:25.800
+as though a lot of this has to do with with the value of intellectual property, the value of stocks,
+
+19:26.360 --> 19:34.840
+trading, you know, company values, futures, the value of companies in the future, the value of
+
+19:34.840 --> 19:41.560
+patent pools, a lot of stuff that is not anything to do with whether there's a dangerous novel virus
+
+19:41.560 --> 19:51.240
+around or not. So we also had these two guys on yesterday as a council fire. I think I have that
+
+19:51.240 --> 19:56.840
+here. Yeah. And we're going to try and do a council fire every Monday. I'm trying to figure out if
+
+19:56.840 --> 20:01.160
+we're trying to schedule Monday's council fire. We're going to try and have two people on that
+
+20:01.160 --> 20:06.120
+haven't met each other before and have a little discussion about the pandemic. And hopefully,
+
+20:06.920 --> 20:11.800
+hopefully we'll set some kind of precedence where people will find that exciting and fun and that
+
+20:11.800 --> 20:16.440
+I don't have to do anything because all I have to do is say go and those two can have a conversation.
+
+20:18.040 --> 20:23.480
+And it's a virtual one and I'll just stoke the fire behind, which I think could work out really well.
+
+20:25.560 --> 20:33.960
+So today's show is a little bit about this consensus that I feel like is is really now centered around
+
+20:36.440 --> 20:41.800
+it should have been and it should have been centered around how this happened and why they lied.
+
+20:42.680 --> 20:48.440
+But instead, the consensus has been forced around the mystery of the
+
+20:49.640 --> 21:00.280
+mystery of the origins of the virus. And I find it just sad really that the Nobel Prize
+
+21:00.280 --> 21:04.920
+in 2023 in physiology or medicine has been awarded to these two.
+
+21:07.480 --> 21:14.200
+For a wide variety of reasons, not the least of which is what Peter McCullough said last night
+
+21:14.200 --> 21:22.680
+on our program. And that is that there are some thousands of patents, patented processes,
+
+21:22.680 --> 21:28.440
+patented items, patented technologies, patented machines, patented processes
+
+21:28.520 --> 21:36.600
+that are involved ultimately in making the 1 billion doses of vaccine that were given out
+
+21:36.600 --> 21:44.200
+or whatever it is, 13 billion doses and the 14 million lives that were saved by the vaccine
+
+21:44.200 --> 21:52.280
+according to one account. Now the real bummer of this is, is that there is really no honesty
+
+21:52.360 --> 21:59.960
+about the biology anymore at all. Did they award them because the RNA lasted even longer than they
+
+21:59.960 --> 22:06.280
+thought and the results were even better than they thought they would be? Because it's odd to me that
+
+22:08.680 --> 22:17.160
+well, it's odd to everyone, but really not because Robert Malone knew this was a possibility because
+
+22:17.160 --> 22:25.240
+we know that from their earliest writings in 2020, especially Jill's writings. We also know
+
+22:25.800 --> 22:31.640
+that when he came out, he was talking about being the inventor of this and he still is talking about
+
+22:31.640 --> 22:37.720
+being the inventor of this. Gary Cole Wiseman get the Nobel and not for inventing mRNA vaccines
+
+22:37.720 --> 22:43.800
+because I did that. But for adding the pseudo-uridine that allowed unlimited spike toxins to be
+
+22:43.800 --> 22:48.200
+manufactured and what could have been a safe and effective vaccine platform
+
+22:49.560 --> 23:01.000
+if safely developed could have known. So I'm not really sure if Robert Malone understands
+
+23:04.760 --> 23:11.240
+what this really does for him, but once and for all it becomes very obvious that
+
+23:13.800 --> 23:19.960
+if you're not going to say it out loud, right, that they're bad and that we shouldn't have used
+
+23:19.960 --> 23:28.360
+them and that it's not safe if safely developed. What is he talking about? Of course, you know what
+
+23:28.360 --> 23:34.280
+he's talking about. He's talking about exactly what he said. We said he was going to do two years ago.
+
+23:34.280 --> 23:43.000
+Be sure that this vaccine will not cause long-term. Now the trick here is to realize what they said
+
+23:44.040 --> 23:49.320
+because again, going back in time, you can see what they said and if what they said doesn't
+
+23:49.320 --> 23:55.080
+jive with what we know in the biology and doesn't jive with what they're now saying,
+
+23:56.120 --> 24:03.880
+then they're liars. And if there's anyone that you can watch talk about their science and know
+
+24:03.880 --> 24:11.400
+that they're lying, it's this Drew Weisman guy in my humble opinion. It is very frightening to me
+
+24:12.280 --> 24:19.320
+how literally smiles. It's very frightening to me how little enthusiasm he has. It's very frightening
+
+24:19.320 --> 24:28.120
+to me how little depth there ever is anytime he ever speaks. I've watched hours of him talking
+
+24:28.200 --> 24:34.920
+and it never goes past high school level biology. It's almost comical. It says if there's really no
+
+24:34.920 --> 24:42.520
+magic at all in RNA, there's nothing complicated to understand about how RNA and ribosomes add up
+
+24:42.520 --> 24:52.600
+to proteins. It is extraordinary. And if you want him to distill down the complex pattern
+
+24:53.320 --> 24:58.680
+integrity that your body is, that your little cells are individually
+
+25:00.120 --> 25:06.280
+and listen to him talk about it in a ridiculously simple, what are we calling it? Dumb simple
+
+25:07.080 --> 25:12.840
+in a dumb simple way. So that you think that this just has to work, listen to what he said.
+
+25:13.720 --> 25:17.880
+This is like before it's like two years ago.
+
+25:18.760 --> 25:23.720
+Negative impact in humans. Like that's one of our big questions that we hear a lot.
+
+25:24.680 --> 25:28.040
+So the first is to understand what the vaccine
+
+25:29.400 --> 25:37.160
+how so how can we be sure that this vaccine will not cause long term negative impact in humans. Like
+
+25:37.160 --> 25:43.160
+that's one of our big questions that we hear a lot. So the first is to understand what the
+
+25:43.160 --> 25:50.120
+vaccine is. The mRNA in the vaccine is identical to the RNA in your cells.
+
+25:51.240 --> 25:58.760
+So the RNA in your cells isn't causing long term adverse events. So the RNA in the vaccine won't
+
+25:58.760 --> 26:08.120
+either. The RNA is degraded probably within a week. It's completely gone. The lipid nanoparticles
+
+26:08.120 --> 26:15.960
+contain four types of fat. Two of the fats are identical to what's in our cells. They're physiologic.
+
+26:17.160 --> 26:27.400
+The other two are present at incredibly low levels. They are gone within 24 to 48 hours. They're just
+
+26:28.360 --> 26:36.040
+the body degrades them. They're gone. So nothing of the vaccine is left after days to a week or so.
+
+26:36.040 --> 26:42.520
+The question that comes from then how do you get a long term adverse event? Well you can't
+
+26:42.520 --> 26:50.520
+from any components of the vaccine because they're gone. The mRNA does not integrate into the DNA.
+
+26:50.520 --> 26:57.480
+It doesn't affect the DNA. It doesn't change the DNA. It doesn't mutate the DNA. It does nothing to
+
+26:57.480 --> 27:05.880
+the DNA. So that's one of the social media myths that you have to throw out. It doesn't do anything
+
+27:05.880 --> 27:18.040
+to the DNA. It's just hard to imagine how it could have long term effects. 90% of adverse events
+
+27:18.040 --> 27:25.560
+the vaccines happen in the first six weeks. We haven't seen anything. 15 million people have
+
+27:25.560 --> 27:36.680
+gotten the vaccine already. The only DNA. But so it's just hard to imagine how it could have
+
+27:36.680 --> 27:43.240
+long term effects. 90% of adverse events the vaccines happen in the first six weeks.
+
+27:44.760 --> 27:52.200
+We haven't seen anything. 15 million people have gotten the vaccine already. The only really
+
+27:52.200 --> 28:00.440
+serious adverse event is this anaphylaxis like reaction that we're seeing in about one in 100,000
+
+28:00.440 --> 28:07.160
+people. Other than that there really nothing you know 15 million people have been injected.
+
+28:07.160 --> 28:13.000
+It's spectacular because he's not reading it. He just talks like this. This Nobel Prize winner
+
+28:13.000 --> 28:21.320
+this is as fast as he processes. Even late at night this is as fast as he goes. Even when he knows
+
+28:21.320 --> 28:26.360
+he's about to win the Nobel Prize. Even when he's saving he's making more money than he ever
+
+28:26.360 --> 28:37.800
+imagined. This is how fast he talks. This is the energy level. You know why? Because there's no
+
+28:37.800 --> 28:44.760
+real science in what he's done. Is he a chemist? You know like what what did he do? He figured out
+
+28:44.760 --> 28:54.920
+a way to change all the uracils to pseudo uridine like like that's it. We tried a bunch of them.
+
+28:54.920 --> 29:01.240
+One of them was really good. One of them caused the least inflammation so we used that one.
+
+29:02.120 --> 29:10.600
+Boy aren't we smart. Even the whole idea of using MRNA as a vaccine is not like clever.
+
+29:11.560 --> 29:19.480
+I mean I don't want to be a creep but it's not clever. The idea would be of course okay I'll use
+
+29:19.480 --> 29:26.760
+MRNA and if the MRNA encodes a foreign protein for like a virus then maybe the immune system will
+
+29:26.760 --> 29:32.920
+make a response to it. Well it's pretty in-depth. You're really smart until you think about the
+
+29:33.000 --> 29:39.880
+immune response coming in and creating a possibility for autoimmunity.
+
+29:41.960 --> 29:46.840
+Until you think about where the transmission occurs and what might happen if it occurs in
+
+29:46.840 --> 29:58.200
+X tissue. And so this is the kind of thing the kind of ridiculously dumb really dumb simple stuff
+
+29:58.200 --> 30:01.560
+that they were throwing at us from the very beginning. In consensus
+
+30:04.280 --> 30:11.960
+not only is it simple for you to understand mouth breather but everybody on social media and
+
+30:11.960 --> 30:21.480
+everybody on TV agrees. So how can you possibly go against this illusion of consensus no matter
+
+30:21.480 --> 30:30.840
+how dumb it is. No matter how dumb simple it is. It's got four different fats. This MRNA is
+
+30:30.840 --> 30:36.440
+the same as your MRNA. He hasn't even gotten to the fact that they're supposed to be protein
+
+30:36.440 --> 30:45.880
+expression. The MRNA will be gone in a week or so. So the whole concept of how is the immune
+
+30:45.880 --> 30:52.200
+system activated. How is this different than an infection. How is this different than how does
+
+30:52.200 --> 30:58.520
+this differ throughout the body. None of these questions are asked. None of them are answered.
+
+30:58.520 --> 31:06.120
+None of them are implied or even acknowledged by this Nobel Prize winner. Boy is he really
+
+31:06.120 --> 31:12.600
+understand what he's doing doesn't he. He understands it so well he can barely talk about it in depth
+
+31:12.840 --> 31:19.080
+which makes the perfect stooge for this kind of operation.
+
+31:28.040 --> 31:30.200
+I mean it's terrible to think but you know
+
+31:32.600 --> 31:37.320
+a guy that I used to work for named Edward Moser and a woman that I used to work for named
+
+31:37.320 --> 31:42.520
+Maybread Moser won the Nobel Prize in 2012 was it.
+
+31:47.720 --> 31:54.760
+And that was for a lifetime of work and awarded to another person that they had studied under
+
+31:55.560 --> 32:08.120
+John O'Keefe for discoveries over 20 years which led to a pretty reasonably compelling
+
+32:08.120 --> 32:17.560
+understanding of how the hippocampus might and code experience somehow. Certainly it's the
+
+32:17.560 --> 32:23.400
+most insight that we've purported to have in any part of the brain ever really besides the
+
+32:23.400 --> 32:31.480
+visual cortex. And now they're giving Nobel Prizes away for chemistry experiments.
+
+32:33.560 --> 32:36.680
+Chemistry experiments that led to profit I guess
+
+32:38.600 --> 32:43.960
+with no measurable benefits I guess because the only measurable benefits are
+
+32:44.920 --> 32:47.160
+increased all caused mortality Denny.
+
+32:49.960 --> 32:51.080
+I mean that's what we see.
+
+32:53.240 --> 32:59.160
+So it's still an illusion of consensus because there are people who believe this and say it
+
+33:00.040 --> 33:12.040
+and recited to each other in zoom calls on live streams, on talk shows, on news broadcasts,
+
+33:14.840 --> 33:23.560
+perfect. Isn't it funny how news broadcasts lately they've added more people and what
+
+33:23.560 --> 33:29.880
+they're doing there is they're creating an illusion of consensus. It's four people in agreement
+
+33:29.880 --> 33:37.800
+about something so harder for you to disagree with. If it's just one person standing there you
+
+33:37.880 --> 33:44.520
+can get in an argument with that guy. Oh whatever whatever Tom Brokaw you don't know what you're
+
+33:44.520 --> 33:50.440
+talking about but once it's three people and they're all going yeah yeah that's right oh yeah
+
+33:50.440 --> 33:58.840
+you're right too and yes you too Ellen then it's much harder it's subconsciously much harder
+
+33:59.640 --> 34:05.560
+to disagree. They figured that out it's a very powerful trick.
+
+34:06.680 --> 34:14.520
+Conversations where people come to agreement are mystifying our magical can be enchantments
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+34:15.640 --> 34:20.840
+especially when they are amplified especially when they are repeated especially when they seem
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+34:20.840 --> 34:24.200
+to occur between all these different people.
+
+34:24.520 --> 34:32.040
+I mean this kind of nonsense it's just extraordinary what he says in this video
+
+34:33.480 --> 34:42.920
+it's the same and yourselves. So the RNA in yourselves isn't causing long-term adverse events
+
+34:42.920 --> 34:50.920
+so the RNA in the vaccine won't either. The RNA is degraded probably within a week it's completely
+
+34:50.920 --> 34:56.840
+gone. I mean isn't it kind of absurd to think that the gears and the cooking clock
+
+34:57.640 --> 35:02.840
+all work together perfectly and none of those gears cause any problems.
+
+35:03.640 --> 35:10.600
+So if we just throw like 50 more gears into the clock and shake it around a little bit
+
+35:10.600 --> 35:13.560
+the clock will still work fine and nothing will go wrong.
+
+35:13.560 --> 35:22.600
+I mean it doesn't even make any sense if you actually understand what biology is as far as
+
+35:22.600 --> 35:32.600
+a cell and tissues and organs and an organism is but I mean if you just you know if you understand
+
+35:32.600 --> 35:40.120
+biology like a I don't know like a bad eighth grader then maybe you can have this kind of
+
+35:40.200 --> 35:47.880
+interpretation where it's just all the same but I mean you know the sugar and the flour
+
+35:47.880 --> 35:54.120
+and the yeast and the whatever you put in your bread is in there so if you add a little bit more
+
+35:54.120 --> 36:00.040
+it's not going to be a big deal it'll still be bread come on. I mean is this a joke?
+
+36:00.040 --> 36:10.600
+That that kind of thinking doesn't work for a bread recipe how in the hell does it work for
+
+36:10.600 --> 36:13.240
+RNA in ourselves? Are you joking?
+
+36:16.120 --> 36:22.600
+Holy shit numbers. The lipid nanoparticles contain four types of fat.
+
+36:23.560 --> 36:28.360
+Two of the fats are identical to what's in our cells they're physiologic.
+
+36:29.080 --> 36:39.240
+The other two are present at incredibly low levels they are gone within 24 to 48 hours
+
+36:39.240 --> 36:42.680
+they're just the body degrades them they're gone.
+
+36:43.640 --> 36:45.560
+They're gone as in they're undetectable.
+
+36:48.840 --> 36:54.280
+I have no idea if the body degrades them kids have bad reactions to peg all the time.
+
+36:55.240 --> 36:58.920
+I mean it's just extraordinary the kind of arrogance that's here.
+
+36:58.920 --> 37:03.720
+So nothing of the vaccine is left after days to a week or so.
+
+37:05.320 --> 37:10.760
+The question that comes with how do you get a long-term adverse event? Well you can't from any
+
+37:10.760 --> 37:18.760
+components of the vaccine they're gone. The mRNA does not integrate into the DNA it doesn't
+
+37:18.840 --> 37:25.960
+affect the DNA it doesn't change the DNA it doesn't mutate the DNA it does nothing to the DNA
+
+37:26.840 --> 37:32.920
+so that that's one of the social media myths that that you have to throw out that it doesn't
+
+37:32.920 --> 37:42.920
+do anything to the DNA but so you know it's just hard to imagine how it could have long-term effects
+
+37:43.480 --> 37:48.360
+90% of adverse events the vaccines happen in the first six weeks.
+
+37:49.880 --> 37:55.080
+We haven't seen anything 15 million people have gotten the vaccine already.
+
+37:55.720 --> 38:03.640
+The only really serious adverse event is this anaphylaxis like reaction that we're seeing in
+
+38:03.640 --> 38:10.760
+about one in a hundred thousand people other than that there really nothing you know 15 million
+
+38:10.760 --> 38:16.680
+people have been injected that's that's a lot of people and if we were going to see an unusual
+
+38:16.680 --> 38:25.080
+adverse event you know if would you care about something that occurred less than one in 15 billion?
+
+38:29.320 --> 38:33.640
+I don't have better I have worse ads than that with the lottery right? Exactly.
+
+38:34.520 --> 38:41.800
+Yeah I mean that's a guy who's been convinced I think by someone that that nobody's being hurt
+
+38:45.400 --> 38:51.160
+and that he's just convinced that anti-vax people and are crazy people and they can be dismissed
+
+38:52.120 --> 38:54.840
+there's no real other way to interpret it he's too
+
+38:56.920 --> 39:02.200
+he's too inarticulate and slow not to be inarticulate and slow just like he is
+
+39:03.160 --> 39:09.000
+and I think he's just a pawn in this you know he's no he's not sophisticated enough to know
+
+39:09.800 --> 39:15.160
+how bad he just sounded there as a biologist I mean it's clear right you would never
+
+39:15.720 --> 39:18.760
+no biologist worth their salt whatever say those words
+
+39:20.920 --> 39:29.000
+I mean it's just absurd to me and and that's really where we are there's so many people out there
+
+39:29.880 --> 39:32.120
+that
+
+39:33.480 --> 39:40.920
+they carry a the calling card of a biologist and they just aren't biologists they don't get it
+
+39:42.200 --> 39:47.080
+they don't start with the fact that all life on earth is patterned integrity
+
+39:48.040 --> 39:49.560
+they don't even know what that means
+
+39:51.400 --> 39:56.520
+and they don't start with this idea that there is a complexity at the heart of life which is
+
+39:59.240 --> 40:06.600
+it's not dissectable anymore and we can't really simplify it anymore there is a barrier there that
+
+40:06.600 --> 40:15.400
+we don't really understand yet because it's too much it's way beyond clockwork and try as we might
+
+40:16.280 --> 40:20.920
+that clockwork is going to be impenetrable for us for a very long time and we shouldn't
+
+40:21.560 --> 40:30.040
+we shouldn't be enticed by these liars who have been trying to make us believe that
+
+40:32.280 --> 40:36.760
+I don't know maybe that's appropriate the sirens but trying to make us believe
+
+40:37.720 --> 40:45.800
+that these walls of of mystery these walls of sacred are going to come down very very soon
+
+40:45.800 --> 40:52.360
+like in the next five years we're almost there we're going to be able to implant things in your
+
+40:52.360 --> 41:00.040
+head and make you smarter it's just ridiculous and it is ridiculous to say that we can inject
+
+41:00.040 --> 41:04.840
+some RNA in your arm and augment your immune system and it's absolutely ridiculous
+
+41:06.440 --> 41:13.800
+and the idea that this guy is a biologist and he believes the sales pitch that he just gave
+
+41:13.800 --> 41:21.160
+is ridiculous something is completely and totally incongruent it's like a pirate who can't swim
+
+41:21.160 --> 41:31.080
+it doesn't have a ship I mean then what do you do if this guy gave a biology 101 class without
+
+41:31.080 --> 41:39.480
+notes I guarantee you you and I would both know immediately that it's a scam that's the trick
+
+41:39.480 --> 41:47.400
+give me a whiteboard and a marker and a room full of guys like him and ask me any question you
+
+41:47.400 --> 41:56.600
+want try your hardest that's where we're at here some of these players know that everybody that
+
+41:56.600 --> 42:04.040
+they're talking to gives them exceptional credit and so the default is if he's really talking very
+
+42:04.040 --> 42:09.800
+simple then it must just be that he thinks that I don't know and so I'm going to be respectful and
+
+42:09.800 --> 42:17.640
+not cut him off I'll just let him say stuff and I've had that happen a lot of times on my show where
+
+42:17.640 --> 42:25.000
+people start with like you know you know there's a in a way kind of Denny did it last night Denny
+
+42:25.000 --> 42:34.680
+was pretty expansive pretty in-depth explained why there was a seasonal component to all cause
+
+42:34.680 --> 42:41.480
+mortality but I would assume that that Peter knew that I certainly understood it but maybe that was
+
+42:42.680 --> 42:47.800
+you know not understood he already did it for the the audience as well I guess I get that
+
+42:48.840 --> 42:53.640
+but we're really talking about some serious baloney here and this goes on you know what our
+
+42:53.640 --> 43:00.360
+biggest enemy is in America this is where frankly we know that when we go back remember
+
+43:00.360 --> 43:07.640
+that in the context of the rollout of the vaccine where people like the Nobel Prize winners we're
+
+43:07.640 --> 43:14.120
+saying that the RNA lasts for a few weeks that nothing is couldn't be safer that all these
+
+43:14.120 --> 43:21.000
+components are natural and the other ones are disappearing in no time and that it's protecting
+
+43:21.080 --> 43:28.920
+everyone and all sort of stuff at the same time that that illusion of consensus was going on
+
+43:29.480 --> 43:36.040
+on television and social media there was an another illusion of consensus going on can't trust the
+
+43:36.040 --> 43:42.520
+unvaccinated now is the time to do what you're told this is not the biggest enemy is in America
+
+43:43.320 --> 43:49.400
+our fellow Americans frankly we know that we can't trust the unvaccinated now is the time to do
+
+43:50.200 --> 43:57.800
+what you're told this is not about freedom or personal choice no screw you freedom apologize
+
+43:57.800 --> 44:04.040
+for every variant to come walking around warfully unvaccinated that's iconic
+
+44:05.240 --> 44:13.160
+I'm patient but our patience is wearing thin and your refusal has cost all of us vaccinated
+
+44:13.160 --> 44:18.040
+person having a heart attack yes come right on him we'll take care of you unvaccinated guy you
+
+44:18.040 --> 44:24.200
+gobbled horse goo rest in peace wheezy you unvaccinated overcrowd our hospitals
+
+44:24.760 --> 44:30.200
+we're over running emergency rooms in intensive care units leaving no room for someone with a
+
+44:30.200 --> 44:37.560
+heart attack or pancreatitis yush muk this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated f*** them f***
+
+44:37.560 --> 44:45.800
+their freedom I want my freedom to live you have to be conscious of what happened and remember
+
+44:45.800 --> 44:51.640
+exactly how it happened because again there are people who haven't woken up from that spell
+
+44:53.160 --> 44:59.560
+there are people who haven't woken up from that spell and think that people who didn't get vaccinated
+
+44:59.560 --> 45:06.440
+are still selfish and still lucky that the virus didn't get them still lucky
+
+45:08.120 --> 45:13.800
+that they managed not to kill anybody with their selfishness that's what people think
+
+45:14.760 --> 45:22.120
+I've heard them say it I've asked them so they have really created the biggest rift
+
+45:22.120 --> 45:29.080
+cognitive rift that could be created with regard to this mythology and we are at a very
+
+45:29.080 --> 45:33.880
+dangerous tipping point of course with the election in America coming up next year
+
+45:35.240 --> 45:38.200
+do you ever think we will find the origins of SARS-CoV-2
+
+45:39.080 --> 45:47.560
+what do you think Amy would we find the origins no why is that because we didn't find the origins
+
+45:47.560 --> 45:55.960
+of SARS-CoV-1 we found viruses that have pieces of the thing all in one cave but this didn't come
+
+45:55.960 --> 46:04.920
+from one cave so no so you think we should keep looking Amy why
+
+46:09.080 --> 46:13.240
+I'm asking you I'm just asking I don't under I don't know what the point is
+
+46:14.120 --> 46:21.320
+I don't know what the point is to keep looking so first of all as Eddie Holmes has stated numerous
+
+46:21.320 --> 46:28.120
+times by the time by the time we got there we the virus has changed so significantly that
+
+46:28.120 --> 46:33.160
+it would be hard to even be to determine that it was the origin
+
+46:33.240 --> 46:38.840
+I don't see the point in this exercise
+
+46:41.640 --> 46:46.280
+that's why Eddie is not a proponent of surveying bats for their viruses right
+
+46:48.440 --> 46:53.800
+yeah that's why he says by the time you do it it's all changed yeah but right so what the
+
+46:53.800 --> 46:58.840
+point of this exercise so for SARS-CoV-1 it took 10 years to do that they found they found pieces
+
+46:58.840 --> 47:04.840
+of the original virus right right but they didn't find the virus no but it's okay you could
+
+47:04.840 --> 47:11.240
+find pieces which put together would give SARS-1 so 10 years they found pieces that put together
+
+47:11.240 --> 47:17.160
+you could get SARS you could get parts of SARS-CoV-2 it didn't take 10 years yeah but that was in
+
+47:17.160 --> 47:23.320
+lough and you know so what how do you know that it didn't it didn't come over the border in the
+
+47:23.400 --> 47:31.880
+in on somebody's shoe or in some truck that was bringing some I don't know papayas who knows you
+
+47:31.880 --> 47:36.840
+want to frozen food packages came in with SARS-CoV-2 on it that's what China says
+
+47:40.440 --> 47:41.080
+Scooby-Doo
+
+47:43.480 --> 47:48.040
+when when we in the in the White House when Debbie Birx and I proposed
+
+47:48.920 --> 47:57.000
+the 15-day shutdown followed by a 30-day shutdown you may not remember but that was when the
+
+47:58.200 --> 48:05.240
+meat packing freezer trucks were parked in front of Elmer's hospital because they I remember because
+
+48:05.240 --> 48:11.320
+Paul Catrell was telling us he could see him out his window I remember because Paul Catrell was
+
+48:11.320 --> 48:16.920
+telling us almost nightly about it and bragging about how he was in New York so he knew better
+
+48:17.000 --> 48:24.520
+than anybody even though he was on the bus to like med school or whatever it was not really
+
+48:24.520 --> 48:29.960
+med school but at the stuff you do before med school but I but George Webb says like med school
+
+48:29.960 --> 48:35.320
+and doctor and doctor and med school and med school and med school and medical school and medical
+
+48:35.320 --> 48:39.960
+school and medical school and medical school and Paul Catrell medical school well I wasn't medical
+
+48:39.960 --> 48:48.600
+schools before medical school that's how it's done that's how it's been done for three and a half
+
+48:48.600 --> 48:55.480
+years now these people are liars they are spectacularly committed to the lie and anybody
+
+48:56.120 --> 49:05.400
+that is onto them or onto the plan has been co-opted by force comfort money drugs I don't know what
+
+49:05.400 --> 49:15.480
+professional standing fame travel but I assure you ladies and gentlemen that Pierre Corey for example
+
+49:16.120 --> 49:22.920
+is not faking it when he first came out on Brett Weinstein's podcast and was telling the story
+
+49:22.920 --> 49:29.720
+about how no one would let him treat anybody in Wisconsin so he went to New York and when he
+
+49:29.800 --> 49:39.240
+got to New York what did he meet he met the setup when he got to New York what did he meet he
+
+49:39.240 --> 49:48.920
+met the setup he met the setup that was being mystically created in New York with a series of
+
+49:48.920 --> 49:57.560
+orders and changes in human behavior never before seen do not resuscitate orders no treating of
+
+49:57.560 --> 50:05.400
+pneumonia I mean the list is absurd and included in that is probably probably probably
+
+50:07.240 --> 50:14.040
+some doctors that were there and were recruited to tell parts of the story
+
+50:15.400 --> 50:21.960
+to tell specific parts of the story and make sure that those parts of the story were amplified
+
+50:22.040 --> 50:30.040
+and that they would be amplified if they did or you can disappear or you can be cast out or you
+
+50:30.040 --> 50:35.880
+can never practice medicine again or we can do any number of things to you because this is a
+
+50:35.880 --> 50:43.320
+national security issue we don't know how bad this virus is going to be remember Peter McCullough
+
+50:43.800 --> 50:51.560
+and Pierre Corey were acting at the very beginning of the pandemic so if there was an infectious
+
+50:51.560 --> 50:58.680
+clone in the places where people were getting sick or if they were just naive enough
+
+51:00.120 --> 51:06.200
+to believe that the illusion of consensus on television and the illusion of consensus in
+
+51:06.200 --> 51:11.960
+their meetings with their administrators and the illusion of consensus that they saw in social
+
+51:11.960 --> 51:19.320
+media that they decided that that respiratory disease might actually be a new one
+
+51:20.600 --> 51:26.680
+that that PCR test might actually be identifying a new one and therefore I better be careful
+
+51:27.960 --> 51:34.200
+because rumor has it it might be a lab virus and if that's the case you might not want to get this
+
+51:34.200 --> 51:39.480
+one do you not think that that was going on behind the scenes I most assure you it was
+
+51:40.360 --> 51:41.560
+because I was part of it
+
+51:45.320 --> 51:48.920
+this is where we are at this is how extraordinary things are
+
+51:50.680 --> 51:56.680
+because there is an illusion that was set from the very beginning used behind the scenes to scare
+
+51:56.680 --> 51:59.800
+people into being less brave
+
+52:02.200 --> 52:07.400
+scaring people behind the scenes at congress scaring the people behind the scenes in secret
+
+52:07.400 --> 52:11.400
+meetings scaring people behind the scenes at ground zero
+
+52:14.520 --> 52:19.240
+and that's how you get people on board that's how you co-opt
+
+52:22.840 --> 52:28.360
+you get them as part of the actual national security operation
+
+52:30.680 --> 52:31.880
+co-opt them as leaders
+
+52:32.280 --> 52:37.880
+now this guy's not aware of all that going on because he's also being used
+
+52:40.760 --> 52:46.200
+I think he's been used for a very very very long time and eventually he must have become aware
+
+52:46.200 --> 52:50.520
+that he's being used but I think it's one of those lookaway doctrine type things
+
+52:52.120 --> 52:59.080
+where he knows that the governing powers of the world have been using him and others to do this
+
+52:59.160 --> 53:05.400
+but you know they're going to take care of my family if I shut my mouth and just keep doing this
+
+53:06.120 --> 53:11.720
+they're going to take care of my family that's where we're at this is for all the marbles there's
+
+53:11.720 --> 53:17.800
+no more games and so you can start thinking of you should have started thinking of people's behavior
+
+53:17.800 --> 53:25.080
+in this context a while ago it's for all the marbles a few lies here and there when everybody
+
+53:25.080 --> 53:30.840
+else in the whole world is telling lies it's pretty enticing
+
+53:35.640 --> 53:43.080
+how to put the bodies in there because the morgues were overflowing the same thing was seen in boston
+
+53:43.080 --> 53:50.520
+in front of mass general and the Brigham so when you have a tsunami of cases where you have to shut
+
+53:50.600 --> 53:58.120
+it off immediately you can't say let's wait x number of months until we get a vaccine or let's
+
+53:58.120 --> 54:03.080
+wait x number of months until we do this when you're running out of hospital beds and you're
+
+54:03.080 --> 54:08.200
+running out of ventilates you got to do something draconian because otherwise there would have been
+
+54:08.200 --> 54:18.040
+a lot more lives lost however you've got to balance that and continually testing whether
+
+54:18.600 --> 54:22.440
+it's still worth luck you could even see the AIDS
+
+54:23.400 --> 54:31.640
+AIDS thing as a as a test run of this operation let's try it with the gays because nobody cares
+
+54:31.640 --> 54:36.280
+about them nobody's gonna speak up for them we'll do this practice epidemic
+
+54:38.280 --> 54:45.320
+and then the real one is this one and it's all the same nonsense we had to shut it down you see his
+
+54:46.200 --> 54:51.800
+his arm movement there we had to just shut it down because there was a tsunami of cases
+
+54:52.760 --> 54:58.600
+a tsunami of cases created by panic on television and a nonspecific PCR test
+
+54:59.400 --> 55:06.360
+and liars on tv liars on social media liars that were coordinated and committed
+
+55:07.000 --> 55:17.640
+coordinated to a lie about bioweapons about vaccine leaks about AIDS vaccine leaks about
+
+55:18.920 --> 55:27.080
+what was it uh i don't know d oh i can't even remember anymore it's just so crazy how much of
+
+55:27.080 --> 55:35.800
+these these narratives all weave together now from this in retrospect uh retrospect is always
+
+55:35.880 --> 55:42.920
+2020 hindsight is always 2020 and it is just extraordinary what you can see if you look back
+
+55:42.920 --> 55:50.520
+the pattern is there and it is crystal clear they wove this story from the very beginning
+
+55:50.520 --> 55:54.680
+and they used it from the very beginning when it was necessary in the beginning they used it to
+
+55:54.680 --> 55:59.960
+scare people when it was necessary they used it in the beginning to get everybody in line
+
+56:00.040 --> 56:08.440
+and now they're using it to perpetuate the need to perpetuate the danger to perpetuate the threat
+
+56:09.160 --> 56:15.560
+no not dissimilar to what they did with the war on terror but now this one affects everybody
+
+56:17.960 --> 56:23.320
+it doesn't matter what country you're in it doesn't matter what songs you sing it doesn't
+
+56:23.320 --> 56:31.400
+matter what church you go to or what books you read you need to fear this and you need to fear
+
+56:31.400 --> 56:39.560
+climate change king down the initial lockdown reason was a life-saving reason how long you close
+
+56:39.560 --> 56:46.920
+the school how long you do you know you diminish activities on the outside has to be a dynamic
+
+56:46.920 --> 56:53.960
+process which you've got to evaluate in real time now is the risk benefit still in favor
+
+56:54.600 --> 57:01.000
+of restriction or is the risk benefit leading much more towards loosening up and that's what's
+
+57:01.000 --> 57:06.200
+going to be interesting because we're going to go back and examine that is worth things done
+
+57:06.200 --> 57:14.680
+too long or not but the initial decision to lock things down unequivocally saved a lot of lives
+
+57:14.680 --> 57:23.800
+no doubt about that not even close what did he just say lock things down unequivocally
+
+57:23.800 --> 57:31.160
+but the initial decision to lock things down unequivocally saved a lot of lives no doubt about
+
+57:31.160 --> 57:40.760
+that not even close it's a pretty extraordinary statement and when he says it and people listen
+
+57:40.920 --> 57:47.000
+and agree and an audience like that it's an illusion of consensus not that is similar to
+
+57:47.560 --> 57:56.680
+studio audience laughter in a sitcom that's also of course true with covid right we are all
+
+57:56.680 --> 58:02.200
+only as healthy as our neighbor is on our street and our city and our region and our nation and
+
+58:02.200 --> 58:07.480
+globally and did we solve that like did we actually manage to vaccinate everyone in the world no
+
+58:08.040 --> 58:13.640
+so highlighting water as a global commons and what it means to work together and see it both
+
+58:13.640 --> 58:17.640
+out of that kind of global commons perspective but also the self-interest perspective because it
+
+58:17.640 --> 58:21.640
+is it does have that parallel it's not only important but it's also important because we
+
+58:21.640 --> 58:27.000
+haven't managed to solve those problems which which had similar attributes and water is something
+
+58:27.000 --> 58:31.480
+that people understand you know climate change is a bit abstract some people understand it really
+
+58:31.480 --> 58:36.840
+well some understand it a bit some just don't understand it water every kid knows how important
+
+58:36.920 --> 58:40.280
+it is to have water when you're playing football and you're thirsty you need water
+
+58:40.280 --> 58:44.280
+so there's also something about really getting citizen engagement around this and really
+
+58:44.920 --> 58:49.160
+in some ways experimenting with this notion of the common good can we actually deliver
+
+58:49.160 --> 58:53.960
+this time in ways that we have failed miserably other times and hopefully we won't keep failing
+
+58:53.960 --> 59:01.560
+on the other things but anyway i'm not even really sure what that was
+
+59:01.880 --> 59:08.920
+but they want the water of course that's one of the resources. Hi everyone Dr. Mandy Cohen
+
+59:08.920 --> 59:14.440
+from CDC and wanted to tell you about some new data that was just released by the CDC
+
+59:14.440 --> 59:21.000
+which adds to the evidence that vaccinations during pregnancy helps protect patients and newborns
+
+59:21.640 --> 59:26.280
+today i'm going to answer a few questions about getting vaccinated when you're pregnant first
+
+59:26.280 --> 59:34.040
+question when during pregnancy should a person get a COVID-19 flu and RSV vaccine
+
+59:35.160 --> 59:41.640
+so the COVID and flu vaccines are recommended for everyone over six months and that includes
+
+59:41.640 --> 59:47.960
+moms who are pregnant you can get a COVID or flu vaccine at any point during pregnancy
+
+59:48.600 --> 59:54.920
+for the RSV vaccine you can get that vaccine if you are between 32 to 36 weeks pregnant
+
+59:55.720 --> 59:59.880
+what is this necklace can you tell me what this is
+
+01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:09.560
+and the second question i really have is this is not dissimilar to Drew Weisman
+
+01:00:10.680 --> 01:00:17.240
+this is a person who in all the videos you'll ever find she doesn't get past eighth grade level
+
+01:00:17.240 --> 01:00:24.280
+biology like all of them if you go back and look at Fauci when he was younger
+
+01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:30.760
+or you look at interviews from the 90s he actually talks fairly in depth about the failures of
+
+01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:36.200
+vaccines and why they didn't work for HIV and the complexity of HIV and the complexity of
+
+01:00:36.200 --> 01:00:45.240
+virology the complexity of the immune system and its challenge to recognize a changing viral target
+
+01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:51.000
+and so he's able to at least articulate why it is that he was having so much trouble and why he was
+
+01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:54.040
+failing all the time with coming up with a cure
+
+01:00:56.520 --> 01:01:02.520
+now we've dumbed simple it's so much that there's nothing to really argue about because it's so dumb
+
+01:01:02.520 --> 01:01:10.600
+simple just get it it's fine we have data that shows just get it it's fine you know there wasn't
+
+01:01:10.600 --> 01:01:15.160
+data before now there's data what are you gonna argue there's data we have data that shows
+
+01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:17.560
+we have p values that show
+
+01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:25.640
+and this is the kind of coercion that's going to go on and on and on as they try to mislead the
+
+01:01:25.640 --> 01:01:33.000
+younger the next and the next years i don't know we've got to really
+
+01:01:36.040 --> 01:01:39.720
+i think we've really got to think hard about what's coming up in the next few months and be
+
+01:01:39.720 --> 01:01:46.360
+really aware of of how far they're going to push it because this is this is a person without the
+
+01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:55.960
+expertise to be where she is and that's on purpose because the people that are actually running this
+
+01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:03.320
+wanted exactly like that and we have to come to understand what's going on here you really do
+
+01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:09.800
+get vaccinated during pregnancy you pass on your antibodies to your baby and they are born with
+
+01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:15.880
+some protection through your vaccination this is great news for keeping yourself as healthy as
+
+01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:21.080
+possible during pregnancy and to protect the health of your baby and what they're saying there is
+
+01:02:21.080 --> 01:02:26.680
+antibodies right they can detect antibodies that's all they're talking about it antibodies equal
+
+01:02:26.680 --> 01:02:36.280
+immunity so mom makes antibodies to vaccine mom is immune antibodies show up in breast milk
+
+01:02:37.640 --> 01:02:46.920
+mom passes immunity on to baby mom could also pass antibodies which make the baby very sick when
+
+01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:55.960
+she is exposed to the RNA and the proteins of the virus in question and that is not
+
+01:02:55.960 --> 01:03:01.000
+a rare event it's happened often with RNA viruses in the past
+
+01:03:03.720 --> 01:03:10.760
+and so without precedence a single observation for a short period of time is enough to dismiss
+
+01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:18.360
+all of previous assumptions in biology all in previous basically theories in biology or
+
+01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:26.200
+hypotheses in biology about how to respect the sacredness of the developing fetus inside of a
+
+01:03:26.200 --> 01:03:35.880
+pregnant woman and moving the shot to the third drymaster is simply insufficient given what we know
+
+01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:41.800
+it's a wonderful wonderful thing though to hear these people really
+
+01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:56.280
+because they're just so off they're just so off they wouldn't pass a year 2019 graduate school
+
+01:03:56.280 --> 01:04:05.240
+basic entry exam at a whiteboard ever none of these people would that's the extraordinary thing
+
+01:04:06.040 --> 01:04:14.520
+you know they would get they would go like dna his tres his RNA and then RNA becomes protein
+
+01:04:15.080 --> 01:04:25.480
+that's how stuff works and cells are surrounded by lipids and ribosomes make proteins and sometimes
+
+01:04:25.480 --> 01:04:33.640
+the ribosomes are in a er which stands for endoplasmic reticulum and dna stands for deoxyribal nucleic
+
+01:04:33.720 --> 01:04:41.800
+acid so i'm really smart and it's it's it's ridiculous and they treat
+
+01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:52.280
+they are purposefully speaking in these terms as if it's it's obviously beyond your pay grade to
+
+01:04:52.280 --> 01:05:01.400
+be told anymore so that's how i'm going to talk to you and it's it's exactly how this was pulled
+
+01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:07.400
+off an illusion of consensus from the very beginning led by fauci and others
+
+01:05:08.520 --> 01:05:17.000
+an illusion of consensus that also had this undercurrent of a lab virus and the undercurrent of a lab
+
+01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:25.240
+virus was able to mystify people behind the scenes scare people into falling in line with the
+
+01:05:25.960 --> 01:05:32.840
+with the national security priority and it took a very long time before that was going to be
+
+01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:38.280
+questioned because the only person that was only people that were really questioning it were who
+
+01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.240
+the people that said there were no viruses at all
+
+01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:52.440
+and so the illusion of consensus was very powerful it kept almost everyone almost everyone from
+
+01:05:52.520 --> 01:05:58.200
+questioning the concept that there could be an RNA sequence that could do this
+
+01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:01.000
+all of us
+
+01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:10.520
+now that's what's impressive it's not the idea the idea is silly but it's impressive that they
+
+01:06:10.520 --> 01:06:19.480
+were able to convince us all that a RNA molecule endowed with the right sequence is capable of
+
+01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:27.480
+circling the globe for years and disrupting everything that we knew as our global economy
+
+01:06:28.680 --> 01:06:36.440
+disrupting our health care systems and fundamentally changing how we think about our place on the
+
+01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:44.920
+planet it's just absurd and yet they've done it and they're sustaining it by misleading all of the
+
+01:06:44.920 --> 01:06:51.080
+young because there are very few kids that watch this program there are very few kids that understand
+
+01:06:51.080 --> 01:06:57.720
+this there are very few kids that really get it i don't even know if my kids fully get it and they
+
+01:06:57.720 --> 01:07:06.040
+hear it every night at the table from me i don't know do we need to listen to the rest of that lady
+
+01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:09.880
+do you want to hear that maybe you want to hear that
+
+01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:20.120
+this is great news for keeping yourself as healthy as possible during pregnancy and to protect the
+
+01:07:20.120 --> 01:07:29.480
+health of your baby next question is getting vaccinated for covid flu and rsv during pregnancy
+
+01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:36.520
+safe for me and my baby another great question and one a lot of people are asking the answer is
+
+01:07:36.520 --> 01:07:43.720
+yes getting the covid flu and rsv vaccine during pregnancy is safe for you that is extraordinary
+
+01:07:43.720 --> 01:07:53.560
+they are man wanted that to pause that's really extraordinary getting vaccinated for covid 19
+
+01:07:53.560 --> 01:08:00.920
+flu and rsv during pregnancy safe for me and my baby and the answer is yes that is just
+
+01:08:02.680 --> 01:08:08.120
+that's all you need to know the sacred is gone you know the one nine months where you're not
+
+01:08:08.120 --> 01:08:17.080
+supposed to do anything you don't even put makeup on are you joking are you joking
+
+01:08:17.240 --> 01:08:25.000
+but you know why not she probably believes that Drew Weissman is not a liar
+
+01:08:26.200 --> 01:08:32.120
+Drew Weissman knows how his Nobel Prize winning mRNA works and he says it's only in there for a
+
+01:08:32.120 --> 01:08:39.880
+few days and it's just the same as every mRNA that we have and it's only four fats and the
+
+01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:49.320
+other two that aren't are natural are gone in days maybe hours and she probably believes that too
+
+01:08:51.080 --> 01:09:00.680
+that's the whole reason why this works because their biology is so shallow that they bought it
+
+01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:06.520
+and I know it seems crazy that the Nobel Prize winner would have that level of but but it's
+
+01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:10.680
+evident to go watch his videos try to find one if you find a good one send it to me
+
+01:09:12.120 --> 01:09:16.440
+find me the most complex lecture that you can find Drew Weissman giving
+
+01:09:20.040 --> 01:09:29.160
+it'll be the same as Mandy there's nothing it is just comical these people are are something
+
+01:09:30.040 --> 01:09:37.480
+being used to govern us I don't know who's winningly and unwittingly involved but we are
+
+01:09:37.480 --> 01:09:43.640
+being governed by an elaborate mythology being pushed by people who are either too
+
+01:09:44.280 --> 01:09:52.600
+unsophisticated to know don't want to know don't mind not knowing knowing that they're on the
+
+01:09:52.680 --> 01:10:01.240
+winning team and some of them are probably eugenics eugenicists some of them are probably worse
+
+01:10:04.360 --> 01:10:11.000
+but a lot of them are just in it to win it and they've been told who the winning team is going to be
+
+01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:14.520
+and it's pretty obvious to them that they might be right so they said what the hell
+
+01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:21.880
+the sales pitch is really easy if you don't do it the next person I offer it to is going to do it
+
+01:10:23.160 --> 01:10:29.560
+it's just that I've never gotten that offer mark use eugenics never gotten that offer no one's
+
+01:10:29.560 --> 01:10:36.120
+ever shown up with suitcase full of money and four wheelers and a deed to a farm
+
+01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:41.160
+but if they did I would ask for two of everything
+
+01:10:43.080 --> 01:10:44.920
+and if I got it I don't know what I would do
+
+01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:49.480
+I'm sure that all these people have been offered something
+
+01:10:50.280 --> 01:10:55.240
+if not just you know you can be the famous CDC director
+
+01:10:55.240 --> 01:11:02.120
+pregnancy safe for me and my baby another great question and one a lot of people are asking
+
+01:11:02.120 --> 01:11:08.200
+the answer is yes getting the COVID flu and RSV vaccine during pregnancy is safe for you
+
+01:11:08.200 --> 01:11:14.360
+and your baby the vaccines have not been linked to any increased risk of negative effects during
+
+01:11:14.360 --> 01:11:20.040
+pregnancy or for the baby and the good news is when you get vaccinated during pregnancy
+
+01:11:20.040 --> 01:11:25.240
+you pass on your antibodies to your baby and they're born with some protection through your
+
+01:11:25.240 --> 01:11:35.480
+vaccination so you know not a real great biology lesson there but it's a great sales pitch
+
+01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:43.000
+and that sales pitch is for this right the sales pitch is for a virus that's definitely worth
+
+01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:49.560
+emergency use authorizations and a virus that's dangerous enough that's definitely
+
+01:11:50.440 --> 01:11:57.560
+means that shutting down saved so many people and that's transfecting people to a spike
+
+01:11:57.560 --> 01:12:04.840
+protein saved so many people and it's the illusion of consensus that this is true
+
+01:12:05.480 --> 01:12:08.360
+that has gotten us here that made it possible
+
+01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:20.600
+and the laughter that you hear signifies the story of the of the worst-case scenario
+
+01:12:21.320 --> 01:12:28.520
+that was percolating in the background that this is a lab leak bio-weapon vaccine gone wrong
+
+01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:35.800
+de attenuating virus that was the word i was looking for before de attenuating virus
+
+01:12:36.840 --> 01:12:43.800
+so it was an attenuated virus and it was made to be a it was made to be a an AIDS vaccine
+
+01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:49.000
+and then it like got out and now it's totally like reverting and now once it reverts it's going to
+
+01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:58.040
+be like flying AIDS and if you remove the illusion of consensus the whole story sounds stupid
+
+01:12:59.160 --> 01:13:11.320
+because in RNA molecule with a couple extra amino acids like PRSS in the final protein or
+
+01:13:11.320 --> 01:13:25.480
+whatever a protein with four extra amino acids is not going to endow an RNA molecule with the
+
+01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:32.600
+ability to replicate perfectly to suddenly not travel the way it has always traveled to way
+
+01:13:33.560 --> 01:13:40.200
+is a is a barely a phantom of a signal in biology
+
+01:13:42.040 --> 01:13:46.840
+so it's extraordinary to me that as we make progress in this narrative
+
+01:13:48.120 --> 01:13:54.120
+and we see through these this elaborate show what it really comes down to is this illusion
+
+01:13:54.120 --> 01:14:00.040
+of consensus of the virus we had to do something that the mRNA was pretty useful but it could have
+
+01:14:00.040 --> 01:14:05.960
+been damn well better and because this was likely a gain of function virus this will most certainly
+
+01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:15.640
+come again they're even pushing now that old narrative about the idea that that you don't want
+
+01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:20.280
+to get infected at all because every time you get infected it's an added you know added again
+
+01:14:20.280 --> 01:14:26.760
+and added again and added again and so what does that narrative do that narrative almost
+
+01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:30.920
+without saying it suggests that you should get vaccinated over and over again to avoid
+
+01:14:30.920 --> 01:14:39.320
+get infected over and over again infection in that model is defined by what PCR
+
+01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:49.000
+is defined by what symptoms so it's all circular logic of nonsense as long as you believe in the
+
+01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:54.840
+virus as long as you believe that something special is circulating you need a laugh track
+
+01:14:56.280 --> 01:15:01.800
+because if you don't have a laugh track nobody will follow along nobody will believe you and the
+
+01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:11.640
+laugh track is created by social media and the promotion of the wrong people promotion of people
+
+01:15:11.640 --> 01:15:17.480
+that will provide the track laughter or more importantly warm question the script
+
+01:15:21.960 --> 01:15:30.360
+they created an illusion of consensus around a virus around the need to do something drastic
+
+01:15:30.360 --> 01:15:34.760
+because you know it's a freaking lab leak most likely we can't tell everybody this
+
+01:15:36.040 --> 01:15:37.960
+because when we tell everybody this they'll panic
+
+01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:46.840
+and so you need to shut your hole about it until next year and then next year we'll roll that out
+
+01:15:48.360 --> 01:15:52.120
+where you know they're going to fight about it in front of congress and we'll leak some emails
+
+01:15:52.120 --> 01:15:57.560
+and it'll slowly become obvious but we can't tell everybody in February that this is a lab leak
+
+01:15:59.800 --> 01:16:06.440
+or we'll have bedlam so we're going to control up this we're going to ease it into them
+
+01:16:08.200 --> 01:16:13.880
+and this easing in will result in them convincing themselves and maybe this was a lab leak so we
+
+01:16:13.880 --> 01:16:21.240
+better done do what we better listen do what we're told and that incongruency was seen in their
+
+01:16:21.240 --> 01:16:26.520
+behavior if you say it's a natural virus but we got it locked down like right now
+
+01:16:28.120 --> 01:16:34.600
+or we're not going to save any lives that doesn't really make sense that's how I saw it if it's a
+
+01:16:34.680 --> 01:16:37.800
+natural virus from a bad cable what do we got to worry about nothing really
+
+01:16:40.360 --> 01:16:45.240
+and we have previous immunity so you know I don't really see the panic but if it's a lab leak maybe
+
+01:16:45.240 --> 01:16:53.320
+that's why they're panicking that made sense to me and it wasn't until three years later that I
+
+01:16:53.320 --> 01:17:02.360
+learned enough virology and more importantly read enough about the molecular biology in virology to
+
+01:17:02.360 --> 01:17:07.160
+understand what their claims were and once you understand what their claims were
+
+01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:12.840
+you can understand how in the context of previous virology and virological limits
+
+01:17:14.440 --> 01:17:17.880
+their claims didn't make any sense unless they use clones
+
+01:17:19.880 --> 01:17:25.960
+and that's when this illusion of consensus became very obvious to me because once I started talking
+
+01:17:26.040 --> 01:17:34.600
+about clones most of these people started ignoring me started attacking me started saying I was a
+
+01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:41.560
+divider started saying whatever and whatnot because this illusion of consensus was about to be disturbed
+
+01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:48.120
+because I was pointing out that we've been fooled into solving this mystery by all these people
+
+01:17:48.120 --> 01:17:58.360
+and in so doing we allowed this change in how we think to occur because you know we bought into
+
+01:17:58.360 --> 01:18:07.720
+the novelty of this whole thing as long as there's a new the virus then all bets were off that was
+
+01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:15.720
+the sales pitch but it's a new virus so we don't know I mean it's a new car we don't know how fast
+
+01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:20.280
+it'll go or how it works or whether you put gas in it or not I mean it's a whole new thing
+
+01:18:21.160 --> 01:18:25.320
+we have no idea how it works we don't even know if it's got doors
+
+01:18:27.720 --> 01:18:33.000
+and since this new car is out there you're gonna have to stay in your house not drive for a while
+
+01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:38.600
+until we we see where this thing spreads it's a new car we don't know anything about it it's not a
+
+01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:43.560
+very good analogy except for the idea that it's a new virus that we don't know anything about
+
+01:18:44.360 --> 01:18:51.320
+our immune system that has been building immune memory to all the RNA that we've ever been
+
+01:18:51.320 --> 01:18:57.080
+exposed to all the self-replicating RNA we've ever been exposed to now suddenly there's a new one
+
+01:18:58.280 --> 01:19:06.360
+and it's so new that everybody's vulnerable it was just the worst story ever and then along with
+
+01:19:06.440 --> 01:19:12.120
+that they dumbed out our immunology they made sure that everybody bought into the
+
+01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:17.480
+i-m-m-u-n-i-t-y that's what I got body's anti-crap
+
+01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:26.280
+antibodies equal immunity was the illusion that I've been trying to dispel since 2020
+
+01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:32.520
+with a slide that said exactly that should go back to one of those old slides that sometime
+
+01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:41.160
+and see how far on we were and so then on this scooby-doo we are you know we ventilated people
+
+01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:47.640
+whoops we ventilated people were emdesivir medazalam untreated pneumonia
+
+01:19:50.120 --> 01:19:56.440
+and so rolling in flu deaths as covid deaths doesn't increase all cause mortality
+
+01:19:56.920 --> 01:20:04.920
+you've got to kill people that's what the protocols did that's what the extra opioid deaths did
+
+01:20:05.480 --> 01:20:11.320
+that's what all the extra deaths that they did you've got to spread them out as much as possible
+
+01:20:11.320 --> 01:20:19.080
+everything goes up and then the excess deaths equal covid and now what we really need to get
+
+01:20:19.080 --> 01:20:24.840
+Denny Rancour to understand that and be able to articulate that quickly and succinctly
+
+01:20:25.400 --> 01:20:31.640
+because he's really close and he said it to Peter McCullough isn't it strange that the excess
+
+01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:36.280
+deaths are exactly equal to covid almost like they're telling us a story because that's what
+
+01:20:36.280 --> 01:20:46.040
+they are doing the music from the game is surprisingly appropriate tonight it's almost like i got a
+
+01:20:46.040 --> 01:20:52.360
+sound guy back there i don't know if you can hear that you might not be able to hear that
+
+01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:59.800
+so they've lied to us about this pandemic potential but even worse they've created an illusion of
+
+01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:08.440
+consensus about it and the illusion of consensus about gain of function in the background is
+
+01:21:08.440 --> 01:21:15.560
+ultimately what keeps everybody pinned to the narrative it's really the faith this is like the
+
+01:21:16.520 --> 01:21:23.320
+you know the the mystery of all the mysteries and belief that we can
+
+01:21:24.280 --> 01:21:32.680
+endow viruses with pandemic potential that we can endow viruses with pandemic potential is the faith
+
+01:21:35.080 --> 01:21:43.480
+because that is a baby sized version of the faith that we can change the human genome we can
+
+01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:51.480
+make personalized medicine we can cure genetic diseases we can take control of our destiny
+
+01:21:53.160 --> 01:22:01.960
+it's a little tiny microcosm of that little little seed version of that idea we can do this
+
+01:22:03.080 --> 01:22:05.640
+soon we'll be able to do it for everything
+
+01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:16.600
+kymeric viruses are so 2020 we're making kymeric fake synthetic bacteria now
+
+01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:24.680
+soon we're going to make synthetic organisms made of silicon all these other stories that they will
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+01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:33.000
+tell us this is the beginning this is like the little gateway drug idea we can stitch together
+
+01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:36.760
+RNA and make it pandemic that's the faith
+
+01:22:39.880 --> 01:22:44.760
+and the illusion of consensus that got us here is this idea that we've got to figure out whether
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+01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:52.360
+it's a natural virus with this incredible superpower or whether it's a lab virus with this incredible
+
+01:22:52.360 --> 01:23:00.840
+superpower and that mystery completely obfuscates the idea that we have always known that RNA can't do
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+01:23:00.840 --> 01:23:07.240
+this and that's what made it so hard to study RNA viruses for so long in the lab
+
+01:23:08.280 --> 01:23:12.760
+and the only way we've been able to kind of overcome it is to make these RNA sequences
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+01:23:13.400 --> 01:23:22.280
+from scratch or with synthetic recombinant mechanized methodologies and then if we you know do some
+
+01:23:22.280 --> 01:23:32.440
+laboratory experiments it seems to kind of do stuff and move around and transmit from an animal
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+01:23:32.440 --> 01:23:37.960
+to an animal if we take stuff out of one animal and squirt it in the other animal
+
+01:23:40.120 --> 01:23:42.600
+an illusion of consensus ladies and gentlemen
+
+01:23:44.520 --> 01:23:48.600
+it's really a conflated background single it doesn't matter whether it's an endemic virus
+
+01:23:49.160 --> 01:23:52.680
+a background coronavirus if you want to call it that protocols are murder and
+
+01:23:52.680 --> 01:24:00.840
+transmission is not medicine if you want to call it an infectious clone release because you really
+
+01:24:00.840 --> 01:24:05.880
+are convinced that there was a real molecular signal and lots of people identified around the
+
+01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:11.480
+world this is the way it was done if you want to call it a transfection agent release i think
+
+01:24:11.480 --> 01:24:18.360
+that's also a very valid way to call it because again using RNA to express protein in in cells
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+01:24:18.360 --> 01:24:24.280
+where it's not normally expressing it is called transfection and so if you spray it in people's
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+01:24:24.280 --> 01:24:29.080
+lungs or put it on their skin or put it in their food or whatever they would have done with it
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+01:24:30.120 --> 01:24:36.120
+if that RNA ends up transcribing protein sorry being translated into
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+01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:45.720
+what you know transcribed if it makes protein then you've
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+01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:53.640
+transfected that animal that human that whatever and so again it's it doesn't really matter what
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+01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:59.160
+you call it as long as you call it something as long as you say that the protocols were murder
+
+01:25:00.200 --> 01:25:07.720
+and that that transfection is in medicine it's totally okay but no viruses discounts
+
+01:25:07.800 --> 01:25:16.200
+the many many many many many many many many many many known synthetic options for
+
+01:25:17.640 --> 01:25:22.760
+transfection and transformation it ignores that we can really make
+
+01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:28.040
+adenoviruses like little particles that have stuff inside of them we can make those we can't
+
+01:25:28.040 --> 01:25:35.960
+make them with great purity but we can make those we can make lipid nanoparticles in small nanoparticles
+
+01:25:35.960 --> 01:25:43.480
+and and other lipid droplets that contain RNA in them and that can allow transfection
+
+01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:51.800
+and in the coming week I think I've just been gifted a whole truckload of of new ideas and
+
+01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:55.640
+things to talk about this week and a lot of it has to do with these ideas these
+
+01:25:57.800 --> 01:26:01.800
+the concept of transfection has been patented more than you know
+
+01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:08.920
+and the number of patents that are involved in this patent pool which likely underlies this
+
+01:26:10.440 --> 01:26:17.400
+release of military technology to the world of pharmaceutical industries
+
+01:26:19.400 --> 01:26:24.760
+change in patent law all this stuff is happening behind the scenes while we're arguing about is
+
+01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:31.320
+there a virus or not and while we're arguing about you know whether it was a lab leak or a natural
+
+01:26:31.320 --> 01:26:36.200
+virus or whether they're no virus people and that's all that's silly doesn't matter at all
+
+01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:41.080
+the protocols for murder transfection isn't medicine and they are trying to reorganize
+
+01:26:41.720 --> 01:26:48.040
+the intellectual property space around the entire biopharmaceutical industry
+
+01:26:49.240 --> 01:26:56.440
+and that reorganization is expressing itself and is visible in the way that the pandemic
+
+01:26:56.520 --> 01:27:01.080
+technologies have been rolled out and the way the the direction of this entire
+
+01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:08.360
+industry is going and we're going to be able to expose it we're going to be able to show it
+
+01:27:08.920 --> 01:27:14.360
+and so we're going to be able to see how this had to have been planned it's an orchestrated
+
+01:27:14.360 --> 01:27:21.960
+pivot and the pivot may be a couple different parties that are involved in responding to the
+
+01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:26.840
+pivot but it's more than likely that all the parties involved are aware that the pivot is
+
+01:27:26.840 --> 01:27:35.000
+going to happen and it's not isolated to this one thing but it is one one of one of the things
+
+01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:42.520
+that many of the dissident characters that we've been following for three years have to be involved
+
+01:27:42.600 --> 01:27:51.320
+in it's almost impossible that that's not the heart of of what is really happening here with
+
+01:27:51.320 --> 01:27:54.840
+with all these people maps that we've been watching and thinking about
+
+01:27:56.520 --> 01:28:05.720
+so it was definitely a a orchestrated novel virus idea that's spread around the world by
+
+01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:11.160
+incentive spread around the world by previous drilling and pre-programmed responses
+
+01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:19.880
+spread around by fear and rumor about a lab leak and the potential of what a lab leak could do
+
+01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:26.440
+versus what a regular virus would do and the perpetuation of the worst-case scenario idea that
+
+01:28:26.440 --> 01:28:32.360
+we know nothing we can do nothing we have nothing and this thing's going to kill 3.4 percent from
+
+01:28:32.360 --> 01:28:40.520
+everybody that infects and that illusion only needed to last for so long in so many people in
+
+01:28:40.600 --> 01:28:46.520
+order for this to have occurred it only had to be perpetuated for so long on tv in order for this
+
+01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:53.000
+to occur and now we're here and if we're going to get out we have to actively free
+
+01:28:54.280 --> 01:28:59.640
+our fellow citizens from this illusion as many of them that are willing to take a lifeline
+
+01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:11.560
+and so over the next coming weeks we are going to re-examine we are going to re-examine immunology
+
+01:29:11.560 --> 01:29:17.960
+101 a few times we are going to get good at making a few simple diagrams together
+
+01:29:18.840 --> 01:29:25.800
+and we are going to get good at elevator pitches about this lying scenario we're going to collaborate
+
+01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:30.280
+hopefully with michael yeden and a few other people we're going to have council fires on every
+
+01:29:30.280 --> 01:29:38.040
+monday that we can and uh we're going to keep bringing people together and trying to create a
+
+01:29:38.040 --> 01:29:47.080
+new consensus that isn't an illusion because we are at a time point where um
+
+01:29:47.640 --> 01:29:56.520
+um our our governance the people that are that believe themselves are currently are in control
+
+01:29:56.520 --> 01:30:04.600
+of world governance are making changes and they're making changes for a wide variety of reasons
+
+01:30:05.640 --> 01:30:11.480
+and we need to go in eyes wide open and the first thing is we need to get out of this cave
+
+01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:15.640
+whoa what's this why didn't they play something isn't right
+
+01:30:19.400 --> 01:30:24.680
+but that didn't work right what in the heck
+
+01:30:35.080 --> 01:30:38.920
+why didn't that work that's strange we try that again
+
+01:30:42.440 --> 01:30:47.960
+there we go so you can visit gig ombiological.com
+
+01:30:49.320 --> 01:30:54.040
+if you scroll down from the front page you can find a place where you can subscribe at various
+
+01:30:54.040 --> 01:30:58.280
+levels if you really want to support the stream um but the best way to do it is to share
+
+01:30:59.400 --> 01:31:05.000
+um you can also join the conversation there at gig omb.bio um it's kind of like a
+
+01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:11.800
+twitter but just for us um but it's accessible to everybody and uh you can support my work there
+
+01:31:11.800 --> 01:31:16.680
+if you feel the need to donate one time or would like to donate one time that's one place to do
+
+01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:23.160
+it as well and i thank everybody that has done it in the past um intramuscular injection of any
+
+01:31:23.160 --> 01:31:27.880
+combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb short way of saying
+
+01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:34.920
+that for now his transaction is not immunization so Nobel prize was awarded we knew that was
+
+01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:39.560
+going to happen we predicted it um step all transfections and humans because they're trying
+
+01:31:39.560 --> 01:31:42.360
+to eliminate the control group by any means necessary
+
+01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:53.880
+and that is the show don't forget to share the broken science initiative um and uh yeah
+
+01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:58.200
+this has been gig ombiological high resistance low noise information stream brought to you by
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+01:31:58.200 --> 01:32:08.280
+biologists my name is Jonathan Cooey thanks very much um we're going to try and get a weekly
+
+01:32:08.280 --> 01:32:16.440
+rhythm where we do journal club where we do a question and answer kind of open forum kind of
+
+01:32:16.440 --> 01:32:24.760
+thing where we do a council fire and where we do the fire hose kind of thing like this and where
+
+01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:33.640
+we do watch along so it should be like five kinds of shows or five kinds of daily streams
+
+01:32:33.640 --> 01:32:39.560
+which will make it a little easier for me to keep the pace up um but it also keep it a little variable
+
+01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:46.200
+and then after all this talk i just wanted to put my money where my mouth is and let you know that
+
+01:32:47.160 --> 01:32:52.280
+it's taken me a long time to figure out how to do it and and what the story will be but i think
+
+01:32:52.280 --> 01:33:02.360
+we finally got it and so on the halloween i will be streaming for on and off most of the day
+
+01:33:03.480 --> 01:33:09.320
+um certainly after work hours i can't remember what day it is during the week
+
+01:33:11.880 --> 01:33:22.120
+and i will be streaming to you live from a from a from the deck of the starship
+
+01:33:22.120 --> 01:33:29.240
+enterprise and i think halloween is the Tuesday night okay so it'll be like after five on Tuesday
+
+01:33:29.240 --> 01:33:35.160
+i'll probably be streaming for like five hours from the enterprise as a kick off of that star
+
+01:33:35.160 --> 01:33:45.080
+track that i promised you a long time ago so look forward to that see you soon
+
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+I put this on sub stack.
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+I have about 16,000 followers on sub stack,
+
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+and I'm gaining a lot of traction right now
+
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+on Rumble as well.
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+So, just so you know.
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+Fantastic.
+
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+I mean, I haven't posted as much on Rumble as I should.
+
+00:18.400 --> 00:20.320
+Twitch ended up being a place to hide,
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+but it's worked out okay.
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+Okay, I'm ready.
+
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+All right.
+
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+Dr. Cooley, welcome to the Medical Truth Podcast.
+
+00:33.640 --> 00:35.240
+How are you doing today?
+
+00:35.240 --> 00:36.360
+Very fine to meet you.
+
+00:36.360 --> 00:38.080
+Thank you very much for having me.
+
+00:38.080 --> 00:40.720
+I, like I said in the beginning, I could be worse.
+
+00:41.920 --> 00:44.040
+Nice day today, so I'm happy.
+
+00:44.040 --> 00:45.000
+Good, good.
+
+00:45.000 --> 00:47.080
+So, share with the viewers and listeners
+
+00:47.080 --> 00:49.160
+of the Medical Truth Podcast
+
+00:49.160 --> 00:51.800
+as to who you are and what you do.
+
+00:51.800 --> 00:54.560
+Okay, my name is Jonathan Cooley.
+
+00:54.560 --> 00:57.720
+I've been an academic or used to be an academic biologist
+
+00:57.760 --> 00:59.640
+for about 22 years.
+
+01:01.480 --> 01:05.680
+I was a wannabe doctor for a long time
+
+01:05.680 --> 01:08.520
+when I was a teenager and a young adult.
+
+01:08.520 --> 01:10.600
+I detoured into high school teaching
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+01:10.600 --> 01:13.080
+while I was trying to get into med school.
+
+01:13.080 --> 01:16.920
+And then I actually stumbled into research biology
+
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+as a side job, thinking that eventually
+
+01:20.160 --> 01:21.360
+I was gonna go to med school,
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+but I discovered very quickly
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+01:24.280 --> 01:28.320
+that I really enjoyed academic biological research.
+
+01:28.320 --> 01:30.920
+And so I did it for a couple of years
+
+01:30.920 --> 01:33.280
+using a microscope and doing all kinds of things
+
+01:33.280 --> 01:35.320
+that I thought were really fun.
+
+01:35.320 --> 01:39.200
+And that led me to being invited to do my PhD
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+in the Netherlands with somebody who I met
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+at the University of Chicago
+
+01:42.080 --> 01:47.080
+during this little research assistant job.
+
+01:47.440 --> 01:49.880
+And so I did my PhD in the Netherlands.
+
+01:51.120 --> 01:53.560
+This was after a long time living in Chicago
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+01:53.560 --> 01:55.920
+as an adult, not knowing what I wanted to do.
+
+01:55.920 --> 02:00.360
+So I moved to the Netherlands when I was 31 years old
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+to do my PhD.
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+02:02.240 --> 02:06.600
+And it was there during my PhD in neurobiology,
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+02:06.600 --> 02:10.320
+studying mouse brains that I met my wife.
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+02:11.680 --> 02:15.960
+We moved to Norway where I received more training
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+02:15.960 --> 02:19.160
+in again, neurobiology and mouse brains and rat brains.
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+02:20.000 --> 02:24.440
+And we lived in Norway for four years where we had two sons.
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+02:24.440 --> 02:27.040
+We went back to the Netherlands to try to get tenure,
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+02:27.040 --> 02:28.920
+again, just following my career.
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+02:30.000 --> 02:32.200
+That didn't work out because the Netherlands
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+02:32.200 --> 02:34.080
+is a pretty small country and I'm not Dutch
+
+02:34.080 --> 02:37.140
+and I didn't get an ERC grant, that's the way it works.
+
+02:38.680 --> 02:40.480
+And so I still had this ace in the hole
+
+02:40.480 --> 02:41.440
+where I was an American.
+
+02:41.440 --> 02:45.680
+So I brought my whole family back to Pittsburgh in 2016
+
+02:45.680 --> 02:47.680
+just in time for Trump to get elected.
+
+02:49.600 --> 02:51.480
+And we spent about three years working,
+
+02:51.480 --> 02:54.320
+I spent three years working at the University of Pittsburgh
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+02:54.320 --> 02:56.440
+before the pandemic hit.
+
+02:56.440 --> 02:59.320
+And at that time, I was just rediscovering my love
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+02:59.320 --> 03:03.720
+for teaching and I had sort of reinvigorated
+
+03:03.720 --> 03:06.880
+this love of teaching by starting a YouTube channel
+
+03:06.880 --> 03:09.800
+where I was doing Journal Club on my bicycle.
+
+03:09.800 --> 03:13.120
+I had about a nine mile commute to the University
+
+03:13.120 --> 03:16.400
+of Pittsburgh on an electric assisted bicycle.
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+03:16.400 --> 03:18.440
+And so I started teaching,
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+03:19.080 --> 03:21.600
+I started doing Journal Club on my bike.
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+03:21.600 --> 03:23.280
+And when the pandemic started,
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+03:24.320 --> 03:27.520
+I remembered that my postdoc in the Netherlands
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+03:27.520 --> 03:30.960
+had been at the Erasmus University Medical Center
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+03:30.960 --> 03:34.160
+in Rotterdam where they had enriched avian flu
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+03:36.520 --> 03:39.280
+in 2012 while I was actually still there.
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+03:41.000 --> 03:43.680
+And so I had heard some of these seminars
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+and I heard people joke about what they're doing
+
+03:45.560 --> 03:46.960
+on the 17th floor.
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+03:47.960 --> 03:51.240
+But it never really dawned on me that it didn't really matter.
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+03:51.240 --> 03:54.040
+You know, I was a neurobiologist and I stuck to my thing
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+03:54.040 --> 03:57.000
+and I was, you know, worried about my career.
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+03:57.000 --> 03:59.200
+But then when this happened,
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+03:59.200 --> 04:01.720
+it dawned on me that I'd heard this story before
+
+04:01.720 --> 04:06.720
+and I found a couple reasonably good reviews
+
+04:07.480 --> 04:10.040
+of coronavirus biology and I read them
+
+04:10.040 --> 04:12.000
+and then I read the papers that they cited
+
+04:12.000 --> 04:13.920
+and then I just decided to do a bike ride
+
+04:13.960 --> 04:17.000
+where I speculated about what might happen
+
+04:17.000 --> 04:20.040
+if a coronavirus were to get out of a laboratory
+
+04:20.040 --> 04:24.520
+and I did three bike rides on my YouTube channel
+
+04:24.520 --> 04:27.720
+where I described the history of coronavirus research,
+
+04:27.720 --> 04:28.920
+what we knew and what we didn't.
+
+04:28.920 --> 04:31.480
+I made lots of mistakes in the first couple of videos.
+
+04:32.440 --> 04:34.120
+But the third video was pretty good
+
+04:34.120 --> 04:36.680
+and that got the attention of my faculty
+
+04:36.680 --> 04:39.760
+and they actually told me that I shouldn't be speaking
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+to any newspapers and that virology wasn't
+
+04:43.160 --> 04:45.560
+my expertise, okay?
+
+04:45.560 --> 04:47.360
+That was how they ended the email, okay?
+
+04:47.360 --> 04:50.760
+With a question mark and I don't know,
+
+04:50.760 --> 04:55.760
+I just kept questioning things and in October of 2020,
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+I remember clearly seeing some video of Bill Gates
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+over a lighted table explaining with little models
+
+05:04.280 --> 05:06.720
+how the newest vaccine was gonna work
+
+05:06.720 --> 05:08.760
+and I remember getting very angry and saying,
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+that's not a vaccine, that's just transfection.
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+That's what I do to my mice.
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+05:14.160 --> 05:19.160
+So I think if you really put me in 2019
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+or at the beginning of 2020,
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+05:21.560 --> 05:23.360
+what you would find is a biologist
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+05:23.360 --> 05:27.720
+who would give his kids all of his vaccines,
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+05:27.720 --> 05:30.520
+you would find a biologist who respected
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+the medical field and thought that being a doctor
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+05:35.120 --> 05:37.760
+was the highest calling and had more respect
+
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+for doctors than anybody else.
+
+05:40.440 --> 05:45.440
+I didn't have any inkling of the kind of corruption
+
+05:45.680 --> 05:50.680
+and mythology that modern medicine in America was based on.
+
+05:52.120 --> 05:56.440
+And when we moved here, I told you we had two children,
+
+05:56.440 --> 05:58.680
+we had our daughter here actually
+
+05:58.680 --> 06:01.000
+and on the day of her birth,
+
+06:01.000 --> 06:04.880
+when she got the first two shots of vitamin K
+
+06:04.880 --> 06:09.520
+and the hepatitis B shot, I was just shocked.
+
+06:09.520 --> 06:11.280
+And the only reason why I was shocked
+
+06:11.280 --> 06:14.520
+is because we had our first two kids in Norway
+
+06:14.520 --> 06:16.800
+where the childhood vaccination schedule
+
+06:16.800 --> 06:20.840
+is completely different and more importantly,
+
+06:20.840 --> 06:24.240
+they're not really interested in doing it quick.
+
+06:24.240 --> 06:27.480
+And in fact, if you give the doctors a plan
+
+06:27.480 --> 06:31.240
+of how you're gonna breastfeed your kid until X age,
+
+06:31.240 --> 06:34.920
+then any and all vaccinations can be delayed.
+
+06:34.920 --> 06:39.920
+And so the way that they went about telling you
+
+06:39.920 --> 06:41.320
+how to care for your baby,
+
+06:41.320 --> 06:43.880
+the way they went about teaching you to care for your baby
+
+06:43.880 --> 06:48.880
+was one of sacredness and of purity
+
+06:49.560 --> 06:52.040
+and your baby is already perfect.
+
+06:52.040 --> 06:56.160
+And then to have a child in America
+
+06:56.160 --> 06:58.600
+and immediately see this huge contrast
+
+06:58.600 --> 07:03.640
+where two shots as soon as they came out
+
+07:03.640 --> 07:06.880
+and no talk of whether we do it
+
+07:06.880 --> 07:08.240
+or when we do it or whatever,
+
+07:08.240 --> 07:11.240
+I was my wife and I were in tears
+
+07:11.240 --> 07:14.440
+and we still didn't fully get it.
+
+07:15.400 --> 07:18.600
+It wasn't until 2022 that I started to really understand
+
+07:18.600 --> 07:22.880
+the depth and the breadth of the deception that was going on.
+
+07:22.880 --> 07:24.880
+So I don't wanna jump too far ahead.
+
+07:24.880 --> 07:25.720
+Yeah.
+
+07:25.720 --> 07:27.080
+And I think that's all.
+
+07:27.080 --> 07:30.080
+Yeah, I wanted to back up to 2019 and 20.
+
+07:30.080 --> 07:34.160
+So we're in a place where all of us are,
+
+07:34.160 --> 07:36.880
+at that time I still had the medical practice
+
+07:36.880 --> 07:39.920
+of bricks and mortar medical practice that was.
+
+07:39.920 --> 07:44.160
+And we hear the announcement of this coronavirus
+
+07:44.160 --> 07:49.160
+and I know at that time there was a lot of jokes about it
+
+07:51.200 --> 07:53.720
+with on social media,
+
+07:53.720 --> 07:57.800
+comparing it to the corona beer and all this other stuff.
+
+07:57.800 --> 08:00.800
+And then the media really got a hold of it.
+
+08:00.800 --> 08:03.360
+And I heard an interview where you said,
+
+08:03.360 --> 08:06.640
+you pretty much says, you start taking out old textbooks
+
+08:06.640 --> 08:08.720
+and start reading them and started going through
+
+08:08.720 --> 08:10.680
+and saying something's wrong here.
+
+08:10.680 --> 08:12.720
+So let's start there.
+
+08:12.720 --> 08:16.680
+Sure, so I think the first thing to keep in mind
+
+08:16.680 --> 08:21.680
+is that as a research faculty at a medical school,
+
+08:22.840 --> 08:26.920
+I was not confident of anything.
+
+08:27.000 --> 08:30.520
+I didn't know or think that I knew what I was talking about
+
+08:30.520 --> 08:32.000
+at the beginning of the pandemic.
+
+08:32.000 --> 08:35.040
+I was as taken aback as everybody else,
+
+08:35.040 --> 08:40.040
+but my immediate decision was that I had
+
+08:40.040 --> 08:41.960
+an immunology course a few years ago.
+
+08:41.960 --> 08:44.120
+Why can't I get that book out and start reading?
+
+08:44.120 --> 08:47.000
+Why can't I teach myself this immunology
+
+08:47.000 --> 08:50.320
+and see if I can figure out who's lying and who's not?
+
+08:50.320 --> 08:54.600
+And that might sound at rather arrogant,
+
+08:54.600 --> 08:56.960
+but you must remember, and I'm sure you do,
+
+08:56.960 --> 08:58.720
+that at the beginning of this pandemic,
+
+08:58.720 --> 09:03.040
+we were told by everyone that it was a novel virus
+
+09:03.040 --> 09:05.240
+and so we knew nothing about it.
+
+09:05.240 --> 09:10.240
+And that key admission was what made everything incongruent
+
+09:11.960 --> 09:14.240
+because in all the previous literature
+
+09:14.240 --> 09:16.200
+with the discussion of RNA viruses,
+
+09:16.200 --> 09:21.080
+there was much more of a discussion of general mechanisms
+
+09:21.080 --> 09:26.240
+by which your immune system rejects foreign genetic material
+
+09:26.240 --> 09:30.320
+and the different subtypes of viruses and stuff
+
+09:30.320 --> 09:34.000
+didn't matter so much with regard to the general mechanisms
+
+09:34.000 --> 09:37.040
+by which your body defends itself from these signals.
+
+09:37.040 --> 09:40.960
+And so that was the first clue that my nose
+
+09:40.960 --> 09:42.240
+was pointed in the right place
+
+09:42.240 --> 09:45.360
+because all of these papers from the 90s
+
+09:45.360 --> 09:49.280
+and the early 2000s around the original SARS
+
+09:49.280 --> 09:52.920
+stated very clearly that our immune memory
+
+09:52.920 --> 09:55.680
+to coronaviruses was broad,
+
+09:55.680 --> 09:59.480
+that our immune memory to coronavirus was dampened
+
+09:59.480 --> 10:01.720
+because the body seemed to understand
+
+10:01.720 --> 10:04.920
+that responding with a strong immune response
+
+10:04.920 --> 10:08.640
+to something like a coronavirus was the wrong way to go.
+
+10:08.640 --> 10:11.760
+And this also became corroborated
+
+10:11.760 --> 10:17.080
+with reading about veterinary vaccines in particular
+
+10:17.080 --> 10:19.880
+because veterinary vaccines as you're probably aware
+
+10:19.880 --> 10:22.760
+are much easier to throw out into the market.
+
+10:22.760 --> 10:24.880
+They're much easier to get out there
+
+10:24.880 --> 10:28.040
+and therefore there's a lot more anecdotal evidence
+
+10:28.040 --> 10:31.680
+of vaccine candidates just not working out.
+
+10:31.680 --> 10:33.040
+Right.
+
+10:33.040 --> 10:35.360
+I do have a question for you.
+
+10:35.360 --> 10:40.360
+So they did announce it was a novel coronavirus, right?
+
+10:43.440 --> 10:45.120
+Because I did the same thing you did.
+
+10:45.120 --> 10:46.480
+I pulled out books.
+
+10:46.480 --> 10:48.080
+I started reading articles online
+
+10:48.080 --> 10:50.520
+that were not quite censored yet.
+
+10:50.520 --> 10:52.840
+And I started reading about a little bit of a history
+
+10:52.840 --> 10:57.840
+on the coronavirus in that it had been around since 1963.
+
+10:59.600 --> 11:03.320
+I read it out of the National Institute of Health's publication
+
+11:03.320 --> 11:08.320
+and that some of the vectors and carriers of it are animals,
+
+11:08.960 --> 11:10.080
+right?
+
+11:10.080 --> 11:12.920
+So it wasn't anything new, right?
+
+11:12.920 --> 11:14.840
+The coronavirus wasn't anything new.
+
+11:16.120 --> 11:21.120
+And then we personally experienced it in 2003 and 2004
+
+11:21.560 --> 11:25.680
+in the fall of those years because that was a flu season.
+
+11:25.680 --> 11:28.840
+It was a real bad flu season at that time.
+
+11:28.840 --> 11:33.840
+So the public obviously was kind of blindsided
+
+11:34.240 --> 11:35.960
+with this announcement by the media.
+
+11:35.960 --> 11:38.840
+And then of course, as you know, and I know and everybody,
+
+11:38.840 --> 11:41.920
+the media kind of grabbed the narrative
+
+11:41.920 --> 11:46.920
+and then you had these news reporters, these media people,
+
+11:51.760 --> 11:54.040
+who were trying to control the narrative
+
+11:54.040 --> 11:59.040
+along with these other pillars that medical, pharmaceutical
+
+11:59.320 --> 12:00.120
+and all this other stuff.
+
+12:00.120 --> 12:02.960
+So go ahead, you're back to where you were.
+
+12:02.960 --> 12:07.960
+No, so I think that's really the heart of this
+
+12:08.040 --> 12:12.520
+is to understand that in order for the entire mythology
+
+12:12.520 --> 12:15.800
+of the pandemic to take hold,
+
+12:15.800 --> 12:18.640
+the very first thing they had to establish in everybody's mind
+
+12:18.640 --> 12:20.640
+was that this was a new thing
+
+12:20.640 --> 12:22.320
+that nobody had seen it before
+
+12:22.320 --> 12:24.920
+and therefore everybody was equally vulnerable.
+
+12:26.520 --> 12:30.680
+And that of course was a terrible exaggeration,
+
+12:30.680 --> 12:35.680
+irrespective of how exactly the pathogen was present,
+
+12:38.040 --> 12:40.240
+or not present and how fast it was spreading
+
+12:40.240 --> 12:43.320
+or where it actually was, the idea,
+
+12:43.320 --> 12:46.480
+the biological concept that there is an RNA virus
+
+12:46.480 --> 12:49.360
+for which all of us are vulnerable
+
+12:49.360 --> 12:51.640
+because we've never seen it before,
+
+12:51.640 --> 12:54.760
+only applies to babies that are born right now.
+
+12:54.760 --> 12:57.920
+After that, like you're already in the world
+
+12:57.920 --> 13:00.280
+and your immune system is already interacting.
+
+13:00.280 --> 13:04.960
+And so just the concept of an RNA molecule
+
+13:04.960 --> 13:07.360
+that's so novel that our body can't deal with it
+
+13:07.360 --> 13:09.520
+is ridiculous.
+
+13:09.520 --> 13:14.520
+And that's really one side of this two-sided mythology.
+
+13:15.560 --> 13:17.640
+The other side of that mythology, of course,
+
+13:17.640 --> 13:19.600
+is the idea that an RNA molecule
+
+13:19.600 --> 13:23.160
+can successfully circle the planet all by itself.
+
+13:23.160 --> 13:28.000
+And I think that's probably where really
+
+13:28.000 --> 13:29.440
+the rubber meets the road for me
+
+13:29.440 --> 13:31.520
+because it took me two and a half years,
+
+13:31.520 --> 13:33.480
+almost three years to get to the stage
+
+13:33.480 --> 13:36.760
+where I was sophisticated enough to ask the right question.
+
+13:36.760 --> 13:40.960
+And with regard to 2019 and 2020,
+
+13:40.960 --> 13:42.480
+what they did to all of us,
+
+13:42.480 --> 13:47.480
+the smartest doctors, the most intrepid investigators,
+
+13:47.720 --> 13:50.760
+was convince us to ask the wrong question.
+
+13:50.760 --> 13:52.240
+And that wrong question is,
+
+13:52.240 --> 13:55.520
+is this a natural virus or is this a lab leak?
+
+13:55.520 --> 14:00.520
+And they made it seem like that was the heart of the matter.
+
+14:01.680 --> 14:03.320
+That's what we really had to figure out.
+
+14:03.320 --> 14:05.800
+And if we figured out that and we figured out who did it,
+
+14:05.800 --> 14:07.280
+then we would solve this mystery
+
+14:07.280 --> 14:09.280
+and we could set things straight.
+
+14:09.280 --> 14:11.200
+And that was a ruse.
+
+14:11.200 --> 14:12.960
+That was entirely a ruse.
+
+14:12.960 --> 14:16.160
+Yeah, and then if I remember correctly,
+
+14:16.160 --> 14:19.600
+it wasn't until like, I think it was March,
+
+14:19.600 --> 14:22.440
+well, actually it was April and May going into June,
+
+14:22.440 --> 14:24.080
+at least where I was located at the time
+
+14:24.080 --> 14:26.800
+I was living in Las Vegas, Nevada.
+
+14:26.800 --> 14:29.800
+And they didn't implement mask mandates
+
+14:29.800 --> 14:33.520
+until like about May, June, right?
+
+14:33.560 --> 14:35.760
+So that was kind of a weird tip off
+
+14:35.760 --> 14:40.760
+that something was not gelling correctly.
+
+14:40.760 --> 14:44.760
+The other thing too, is they always announced
+
+14:44.760 --> 14:49.760
+and parroted that if you contracted the coronavirus,
+
+14:50.240 --> 14:53.200
+you had a 98.5% chance of survival.
+
+14:53.200 --> 14:54.920
+And I've mentioned this so many times
+
+14:54.920 --> 14:57.400
+on so many different podcast episodes.
+
+14:58.280 --> 14:59.800
+But I don't want to get too far ahead
+
+14:59.800 --> 15:02.000
+because we're still at the mask mandates,
+
+15:02.000 --> 15:03.640
+we're still at the announcement of this
+
+15:03.640 --> 15:06.640
+and we're still at the narrative,
+
+15:06.640 --> 15:09.280
+the media narrative of controlling it,
+
+15:09.280 --> 15:10.680
+of controlling the narrative.
+
+15:12.080 --> 15:16.560
+And then, you know, the whole thing with the mask
+
+15:16.560 --> 15:19.280
+and I even have some video footage of some insanity
+
+15:19.280 --> 15:21.200
+where there was a lot of mixed messages.
+
+15:21.200 --> 15:25.640
+In fact, I'll just go ahead and go to one of the,
+
+15:25.640 --> 15:29.600
+this is back in, I believe 2020 or 2021.
+
+15:30.040 --> 15:32.360
+Hey, sir, I know you just exited work,
+
+15:32.360 --> 15:34.240
+but per government order,
+
+15:34.240 --> 15:37.080
+required to wear a mask when you're out in public.
+
+15:37.080 --> 15:38.840
+You got all the perfect, appreciate it.
+
+15:38.840 --> 15:39.680
+Thank you, sir.
+
+15:42.360 --> 15:43.840
+We made the decision collectively
+
+15:43.840 --> 15:46.360
+with the city council, with the city manager
+
+15:46.360 --> 15:48.000
+and the public safety director
+
+15:48.000 --> 15:49.680
+to step up the game a little bit
+
+15:49.680 --> 15:52.480
+and start to enforce the rules and regulations.
+
+15:54.880 --> 15:56.240
+And part of it with that enforcement
+
+15:56.240 --> 15:59.400
+is going out into the streets and talking to folks,
+
+15:59.400 --> 16:02.240
+but utilizing education as the key,
+
+16:02.240 --> 16:03.760
+education and persuasion.
+
+16:03.760 --> 16:05.360
+Hey, sir, just to inform you, you know,
+
+16:05.360 --> 16:07.600
+per government order, you're required
+
+16:07.600 --> 16:10.240
+to wear a face mask in the city of West Hollywood.
+
+16:10.240 --> 16:11.080
+Thank you, sir.
+
+16:12.280 --> 16:15.040
+We just came to inform you per government order.
+
+16:15.040 --> 16:17.160
+Once you are in a public setting,
+
+16:17.160 --> 16:19.400
+you are required to put on a face mask.
+
+16:21.080 --> 16:24.120
+Well, it's good thing, good thing, of course.
+
+16:24.120 --> 16:26.840
+Well, we should know that they have to wear a mask.
+
+16:27.840 --> 16:29.840
+We don't want to give out citations,
+
+16:29.840 --> 16:33.840
+but for people who absolutely refuse to wear a mask,
+
+16:33.840 --> 16:36.840
+I can guarantee you they are going to receive a citation.
+
+16:36.840 --> 16:38.840
+The first offense is $250,
+
+16:38.840 --> 16:41.840
+with a $50 administration administrative fee
+
+16:41.840 --> 16:43.840
+for a grand total of $300.
+
+16:43.840 --> 16:45.840
+Every time outside in public,
+
+16:45.840 --> 16:47.840
+we need to really have more.
+
+16:47.840 --> 16:49.840
+We're shooting citations now in West Hollywood
+
+16:49.840 --> 16:51.840
+at 300 bucks a pop, so.
+
+16:52.840 --> 16:56.840
+Yeah, so that's a spectacular example
+
+16:56.840 --> 17:00.840
+of the kind of illusion of consensus
+
+17:00.840 --> 17:02.840
+that they created very early.
+
+17:02.840 --> 17:05.840
+So they forced people to choose
+
+17:05.840 --> 17:07.840
+whether they wanted to conform or not.
+
+17:07.840 --> 17:11.840
+And that was very different than the biological impetus
+
+17:11.840 --> 17:13.840
+for wearing a mask has to protect yourself
+
+17:13.840 --> 17:15.840
+from droplets on other people.
+
+17:15.840 --> 17:19.840
+So I think that the thing that has become more apparent
+
+17:20.840 --> 17:25.840
+to me in retrospect is that the censorship
+
+17:25.840 --> 17:28.840
+and this kind of behavior, which you've just highlighted,
+
+17:28.840 --> 17:31.840
+which is that they didn't start with masks right away.
+
+17:31.840 --> 17:33.840
+They actually said masks don't work at first.
+
+17:33.840 --> 17:34.840
+Then they said they do work.
+
+17:34.840 --> 17:36.840
+Then they enforced it over the top.
+
+17:36.840 --> 17:37.840
+Right.
+
+17:37.840 --> 17:40.840
+That, I think, is part of the ruse.
+
+17:40.840 --> 17:43.840
+If they had been prudent about it
+
+17:43.840 --> 17:46.840
+and they had been honest about it from the beginning,
+
+17:46.840 --> 17:48.840
+that wouldn't have been the pattern.
+
+17:48.840 --> 17:50.840
+That wouldn't have been honest and prudent
+
+17:50.840 --> 17:51.840
+about the censorship.
+
+17:51.840 --> 17:54.840
+The censorship wouldn't have had the pattern that it did.
+
+17:54.840 --> 18:00.840
+Well, I've got another in opposite of that of a sheriff
+
+18:00.840 --> 18:02.840
+in a town in Ohio.
+
+18:02.840 --> 18:03.840
+I'll play that.
+
+18:03.840 --> 18:04.840
+Yeah.
+
+18:04.840 --> 18:05.840
+I'm here today.
+
+18:05.840 --> 18:06.840
+Our phone.
+
+18:06.840 --> 18:07.840
+We're getting calls.
+
+18:07.840 --> 18:08.840
+We're getting emails.
+
+18:08.840 --> 18:09.840
+We're getting texts.
+
+18:09.840 --> 18:12.840
+The governor has, I believe he's just completed
+
+18:12.840 --> 18:16.840
+the mandatory mask wearing for Butler County,
+
+18:16.840 --> 18:18.840
+several of the counties in the state of Ohio.
+
+18:18.840 --> 18:20.840
+It's going to be mandatory.
+
+18:20.840 --> 18:22.840
+The mask wearing.
+
+18:22.840 --> 18:26.840
+And I'm here to, we don't have the orders,
+
+18:26.840 --> 18:29.840
+what he's put out yet, but I can tell you this,
+
+18:29.840 --> 18:32.840
+that I want to make sure everybody understands.
+
+18:32.840 --> 18:36.840
+I am not the mask police.
+
+18:36.840 --> 18:39.840
+I am not going to enforce any mask wearing.
+
+18:39.840 --> 18:41.840
+That is not my responsibility.
+
+18:41.840 --> 18:43.840
+That is not my job.
+
+18:43.840 --> 18:46.840
+People should be able to make that choices themselves.
+
+18:46.840 --> 18:48.840
+I didn't put this order out.
+
+18:48.840 --> 18:50.840
+And it's getting to the point.
+
+18:50.840 --> 18:51.840
+People are scared.
+
+18:51.840 --> 18:53.840
+People are calling and asking.
+
+18:53.840 --> 18:57.840
+Do we have to wear the mask in our house, in our cars?
+
+18:57.840 --> 19:00.840
+It's getting kind of ridiculous.
+
+19:00.840 --> 19:04.840
+At this point, I believe, as the sheriff in Butler County,
+
+19:04.840 --> 19:09.840
+here in Ohio, the economy is starting to try to get back
+
+19:09.840 --> 19:10.840
+to where it was.
+
+19:10.840 --> 19:12.840
+You can't go to restaurants.
+
+19:12.840 --> 19:16.840
+At one time, you were looked down on if you tried to go to church
+
+19:16.840 --> 19:21.840
+and the churches were closed and it's totally out of control.
+
+19:21.840 --> 19:24.840
+It should be left up to the individual if they want to wear a mask.
+
+19:24.840 --> 19:28.840
+If someone's sick, I can understand the mask wearing.
+
+19:28.840 --> 19:31.840
+But for all of us to have to have your temperature taken,
+
+19:31.840 --> 19:35.840
+to have to wear a mask, where is it going to stop?
+
+19:35.840 --> 19:38.840
+I've checked with some people that I know that work in the hospitals,
+
+19:38.840 --> 19:40.840
+the hospital staffs.
+
+19:40.840 --> 19:44.840
+Most hospitals in Ohio have laid people off because of this.
+
+19:44.840 --> 19:45.840
+They've laid people off.
+
+19:45.840 --> 19:47.840
+You go to the emergency room.
+
+19:47.840 --> 19:49.840
+You have to wait longer.
+
+19:49.840 --> 19:52.840
+There's people that are still not working because of it.
+
+19:52.840 --> 19:56.840
+And this makes it harder to wear these masks and for everyday citizens
+
+19:56.840 --> 20:00.840
+that aren't sick and have no symptoms, to have to wear a mask.
+
+20:00.840 --> 20:05.840
+I'm not a scientist, but I want you to know that the police are busy.
+
+20:05.840 --> 20:08.840
+Our budgets have been cut, the fire departments.
+
+20:08.840 --> 20:12.840
+Everybody has less just in the past few months.
+
+20:12.840 --> 20:14.840
+This does not make it better.
+
+20:14.840 --> 20:19.840
+What you have is don't call 911 because someone is not wearing a mask.
+
+20:19.840 --> 20:24.840
+If the health departments want to control and take care of who's not wearing a mask,
+
+20:24.840 --> 20:29.840
+let them put a little yellow light on their car and they can stop people and go in.
+
+20:29.840 --> 20:31.840
+They will not like the response.
+
+20:31.840 --> 20:34.840
+People are tired, they're wore out.
+
+20:34.840 --> 20:39.840
+I think we could have done this in a different way, but make no mistake about it.
+
+20:39.840 --> 20:47.840
+I, as the Butler County Sheriff, am not enforcing any mask wearing whatsoever to the public.
+
+20:47.840 --> 20:49.840
+And my deputies will not enforce it.
+
+20:49.840 --> 20:51.840
+We've got more important things to do.
+
+20:51.840 --> 20:59.840
+It's all we can do to keep up with fighting crime, locking people up and making sure they're safe and employees are safe.
+
+20:59.840 --> 21:00.840
+And there you go.
+
+21:00.840 --> 21:02.840
+There again, you see the same thing.
+
+21:02.840 --> 21:07.840
+The idea is to get people to argue about bad thing or bad thing.
+
+21:07.840 --> 21:11.840
+Should we put sand in sand park or escape parks?
+
+21:11.840 --> 21:14.840
+Should we close down playgrounds and basketball courts?
+
+21:14.840 --> 21:19.840
+Should we let kids play hockey on ponds in Canada?
+
+21:19.840 --> 21:24.840
+Was also a question that was enforced in a negative sense by the police.
+
+21:24.840 --> 21:28.840
+They didn't let kids play hockey on ponds in Canada.
+
+21:28.840 --> 21:39.840
+I mean, we created a scenario where we were arguing about ridiculous things so that we didn't argue about the real.
+
+21:39.840 --> 21:41.840
+And that's really what they got us to do.
+
+21:41.840 --> 21:45.840
+And the most enticing part of that was the lab leak or natural virus.
+
+21:45.840 --> 21:57.840
+But it also was lockdowns, masking kids, you know, vitamin D, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, all of these things are potential red herrings.
+
+21:57.840 --> 22:01.840
+Which keep us from looking at the novel virus with scrutiny.
+
+22:01.840 --> 22:02.840
+Right.
+
+22:02.840 --> 22:03.840
+Right.
+
+22:03.840 --> 22:24.840
+It created enough division that, in fact, on a massive scale to where it put people in such a quandary that they just couldn't process the relentless news reports from the so-called experts.
+
+22:25.840 --> 22:34.840
+You know, I remember listening to an episode of Tucker Carlson and he was interviewing Dr. Scott Atlas.
+
+22:34.840 --> 22:53.840
+And Dr. Scott Atlas was hired by Trump, President Trump to pretty much not so much replace Anthony Fauci, but be part of the hearings and when sitting in on the briefings I should say.
+
+22:53.840 --> 23:05.840
+And they would just totally just scoff at anything that he had to say or present to Birx and to Fauci.
+
+23:05.840 --> 23:16.840
+So there was just so many red flags that were just going up, up, up, up the whole time that I said, and I'm sure you two said something's wrong.
+
+23:16.840 --> 23:18.840
+Something's definitely wrong here.
+
+23:19.840 --> 23:27.840
+Definitely, but keep in mind, James, they played us really well because they had both sides performing.
+
+23:27.840 --> 23:31.840
+And there was one side that made sense to us a little bit.
+
+23:31.840 --> 23:32.840
+Right.
+
+23:32.840 --> 23:34.840
+And we were drawn to that side that made sense.
+
+23:34.840 --> 23:39.840
+And some people were drawn to the side of Tony Fauci, where it's got to be a natural virus.
+
+23:39.840 --> 23:40.840
+Those people are crazy.
+
+23:40.840 --> 23:42.840
+Some people were drawn to this side.
+
+23:42.840 --> 23:51.840
+And it really depended on who you were tuning into, what your biases were, who you trusted, but there was a story for you to latch on to.
+
+23:51.840 --> 23:52.840
+Right.
+
+23:52.840 --> 23:59.840
+Either one that you latched on to, you were going to lose because they were being led by people who were never going to question the novelty of the virus.
+
+23:59.840 --> 24:04.840
+Never going to question the idea that we had to do something because it's an emergency.
+
+24:04.840 --> 24:06.840
+It's a national security priority.
+
+24:07.840 --> 24:12.840
+They weren't going to question the shot at the time when they could have questioned it.
+
+24:12.840 --> 24:13.840
+Right.
+
+24:13.840 --> 24:18.840
+And they were never going to question the possibility that a virus could come again because that's how they plan to do this forever.
+
+24:18.840 --> 24:19.840
+Yeah.
+
+24:19.840 --> 24:20.840
+Yeah.
+
+24:20.840 --> 24:26.840
+So we're at 2019 and we're still trying to sort of frame where I was and where we were.
+
+24:27.840 --> 24:39.840
+And I think in 2020 in the beginning, it's important to mention that I got sucked into or invited into or participated in a group called drastic on Twitter.
+
+24:39.840 --> 24:55.840
+And this group of of Internet researchers was the group that is credited with finding the publications, including a PhD thesis and a master's thesis in Chinese that was done.
+
+24:56.840 --> 25:12.840
+On the minors that had originally died in 2012, exposed to the cave where this, the precursors of this virus were supposedly taken and certainly the cave that the WIV in China was most interested in for the most years.
+
+25:13.840 --> 25:29.840
+And so this group of people, I think still, I look very, I look very skeptically upon because the group kicked me out of the group as soon as I started to speak about the transfection as being a mistake.
+
+25:29.840 --> 25:34.840
+And they insisted that their group was really focused only on the origins of the virus.
+
+25:35.840 --> 25:49.840
+And I at that stage had already progressed far enough to say that I don't think that answering the source of the virus is going to solve this problem because I think they might have misled us about the source of the virus and they wouldn't have any of it.
+
+25:49.840 --> 25:58.840
+They didn't hear anything about transfection or vaccinations. They only wanted to talk about origins and they're actually still only working on the origins.
+
+25:58.840 --> 25:59.840
+Right.
+
+26:00.840 --> 26:16.840
+So that group got me quite distracted and kept me focused on fighting this narrative of a super bio weapon and that everybody was going to die and this was a worst case scenario because that was a strategy that was employed.
+
+26:16.840 --> 26:27.840
+And I think everybody who's listening to this podcast needs to understand that that in the darkest corners of the Internet and in the secret meetings of the government bureaucracy.
+
+26:27.840 --> 26:43.840
+And in the meetings behind the scenes at pharmaceutical companies, the assumption was that this was a leak of a virus that had potential to kill lots of people and irrespective of whether there was any data for that.
+
+26:44.840 --> 27:03.840
+Everybody needs to understand that the way this whole theater was kicked off was triggering all of the pre programmed activity actions and and and emergency action plans that have been set forth by all these exercises over the last 20 years so that that everybody's familiar with event
+
+27:03.840 --> 27:14.840
+201 but that's the last one in a series of exercises which prepared bureaucracies around the world for when this firearm gets pulled.
+
+27:14.840 --> 27:15.840
+Right.
+
+27:15.840 --> 27:31.840
+And this firearm got pulled and everybody did their job and I think they did their job so well that actually there was nobody that had the job of verifying whether we should continue to go on with this plan.
+
+27:32.840 --> 27:33.840
+Right.
+
+27:33.840 --> 27:38.840
+Once the plan was activated it was like now we change the planet forever.
+
+27:38.840 --> 27:39.840
+Right.
+
+27:39.840 --> 27:46.840
+And so that's what's become quite scary to me and I'm sure to you as well that when this first started.
+
+27:46.840 --> 27:57.840
+You would have had a hard time convincing me that we'd be here in 2023 I like no way but I actually think that the people who planned this new we would be here in 2023.
+
+27:58.840 --> 28:11.840
+Yeah well it's interesting you say that because the question was asked to me with my sister in 2020 and in February of 2020 she said to me and like I said I still was actively we're still actively seeing patients in our clinic.
+
+28:11.840 --> 28:14.840
+Before I gave it up in 2020 in December.
+
+28:14.840 --> 28:18.840
+But she said to me she says well how long do you think this is going to last.
+
+28:18.840 --> 28:23.840
+And I says well do you want me to tell you the truth or do you want me to lie to you and she says tell me the truth.
+
+28:24.840 --> 28:27.840
+I said it's going to last as long as the media wants it to last.
+
+28:27.840 --> 28:30.840
+They want it to last a year it'll last a year two years three years.
+
+28:30.840 --> 28:32.840
+It's there's not going to be an end to it.
+
+28:32.840 --> 28:47.840
+And we can see that now because they even talk about the we got into the variance and again I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves because that came down the pipe was the variance and you know you're a biologist.
+
+28:48.840 --> 28:52.840
+The the the variance.
+
+28:52.840 --> 28:57.840
+Are are less lethal right.
+
+28:57.840 --> 29:01.840
+Well they appear to be I mean the question really becomes.
+
+29:01.840 --> 29:07.840
+Are the variants real and that's really where my.
+
+29:07.840 --> 29:10.840
+My journey is really.
+
+29:10.840 --> 29:12.840
+Really peaked.
+
+29:13.840 --> 29:14.840
+One of the.
+
+29:14.840 --> 29:20.840
+The sort of finishing stories there is with my history is that after doing my.
+
+29:20.840 --> 29:31.840
+YouTube and Twitch for about a year I was lucky enough to get a phone call from Bobby Kennedy asking him asking me to help him write this rule on book that's coming out in November.
+
+29:32.840 --> 29:35.840
+And honestly that that was.
+
+29:35.840 --> 29:42.840
+When I was challenged to learn the virology at a newer level at a better level than I had up until that point.
+
+29:42.840 --> 29:43.840
+Right.
+
+29:43.840 --> 29:45.840
+Previously I was.
+
+29:45.840 --> 29:50.840
+I was doing it for myself and I was doing it in the context of immunology but.
+
+29:50.840 --> 30:00.840
+Now Bobby really wanted me to understand for him what was done in every one of these papers and so I kind of redoubled my effort in terms of.
+
+30:00.840 --> 30:03.840
+What they're doing to scrutinize.
+
+30:03.840 --> 30:08.840
+What they know and what they don't know what they speculate and what they know.
+
+30:08.840 --> 30:14.840
+And it became very clear clear to me that coronavirus biology is.
+
+30:14.840 --> 30:21.840
+Coronaviruses are very enigmatic and very difficult for them to study and then suddenly in 2020.
+
+30:22.840 --> 30:24.840
+They have this fidelity.
+
+30:24.840 --> 30:30.840
+And and and ability to track a coronavirus in a way that they've never claimed before.
+
+30:30.840 --> 30:32.840
+Right.
+
+30:32.840 --> 30:35.840
+So that's that that to me.
+
+30:35.840 --> 30:40.840
+Was kind of when when things got really exciting because that's when my.
+
+30:40.840 --> 30:44.840
+My social media context started to act weird.
+
+30:45.840 --> 30:52.840
+And it was really when I started teaching infectious clones and how coronavirus biology is actually done in the laboratory.
+
+30:52.840 --> 30:56.840
+That people that used to be my allies started to say I was nuts.
+
+30:56.840 --> 31:03.840
+People that were saying I was nuts now really said I was nuts and people that weren't paying attention to me before started calling me crazy.
+
+31:03.840 --> 31:06.840
+So I kind of knew I was over the target at that point.
+
+31:06.840 --> 31:08.840
+Absolutely 100%.
+
+31:08.840 --> 31:19.840
+Dr David Martin brought up going back to 2019 event 201 and Mickey Willis and pandemic really laid that out really well.
+
+31:19.840 --> 31:28.840
+And what's really interesting is in 2017 when about a year into President Trump's presidency.
+
+31:28.840 --> 31:32.840
+He predicted that there was going to be an outbreak.
+
+31:32.840 --> 31:35.840
+He said there's going to be a virus.
+
+31:36.840 --> 31:49.840
+And it's like these people can predict these things. It's amazing how they can predict certain events. So, like I say, for the person, the non scientist, the person that's listening.
+
+31:49.840 --> 31:59.840
+They've got to be at this point, hopefully kind of putting the pieces together of the puzzle of this whole puzzle to see what's going on.
+
+31:59.840 --> 32:08.840
+You know, when you start talking about, you know, vaccine passports and digital passports and so on and so forth.
+
+32:08.840 --> 32:26.840
+Now you're really getting into a whole host of issues that people get to a point where they're like, you know, I don't even want to hear it anymore, you know, because I did a little research on quantum tattoos.
+
+32:27.840 --> 32:28.840
+Right.
+
+32:28.840 --> 32:38.840
+And there is a Dr. McHugh, who works out of Rice University, who had been studying and doing research on quantum tattoos and Lucifer ace die.
+
+32:38.840 --> 32:48.840
+And I know there was Dr. Carrie Mahaeus and Dr. Sherry 10penny. They, they brought this on early on. I mean, they mentioned this like right around April or May of 2020.
+
+32:49.840 --> 33:17.840
+And lo and behold, when I did my research, I'm looking and I'm citing articles that were written in 2012 and 13 and 14 and up to 2019, a year before the coronavirus outbreak that they were going to be used for vaccine passports and children and pediatric patients.
+
+33:17.840 --> 33:25.840
+So, like you said, there's this, this plan that's been going on for so long for so many years, right?
+
+33:25.840 --> 33:46.840
+I think that's the part that people, I think they did very well in the years up to the pandemic to drive people to think that, for example, agenda 2030 was a conspiracy, or that the UN doesn't really mean anything, or that the who doesn't have any binding powers.
+
+33:46.840 --> 34:02.840
+And so they already started with this dichotomy of, you know, you're, you're, you're a global conspiracy theorist, or you're, you know, you watch TV and you believe it, they already started this many, many years before that.
+
+34:02.840 --> 34:20.840
+And then for sure, the part of, of, of overplaying this, the technology of digital ID and a vaccination ID and vaccine passports, that overplaying of that was also part of the game.
+
+34:20.840 --> 34:26.840
+But to tire people out, as you said, to get them tired of listening to this stuff, oh, they're never going to do that.
+
+34:26.840 --> 34:33.840
+The idea is to tell you about it now, so that five years from now, it's kind of an old idea.
+
+34:33.840 --> 34:34.840
+Right.
+
+34:34.840 --> 34:38.840
+The idea is to not, they don't, they don't want to vaccine passport me.
+
+34:38.840 --> 34:41.840
+They want to vaccine my passport, my kids, kids.
+
+34:41.840 --> 34:44.840
+This is not a plan even to get my children, probably.
+
+34:44.840 --> 34:47.840
+It's to get my grandchildren and your grandchildren.
+
+34:47.840 --> 35:03.840
+That's how I think we, we also need to reorganize the way we interpret how we're being governed, because I think a lot of people think we're being governed, you know, on a weekly basis or a monthly basis or even a yearly election cycle basis.
+
+35:04.840 --> 35:11.840
+But these people have been governing Western civilization with a 15, 20, 30 year time horizon.
+
+35:11.840 --> 35:19.840
+They already know where they want us to go, where they want to get us, because it's moving a civilization of our size is like a cruise ship.
+
+35:19.840 --> 35:21.840
+You can't just turn on a dime.
+
+35:21.840 --> 35:28.840
+And they've had us pointed in this direction for at least 25 or 30 years, my whole lifetime almost.
+
+35:28.840 --> 35:33.840
+And this direction is a direction where they can govern the globe.
+
+35:33.840 --> 35:36.840
+You can't govern the globe with a common language.
+
+35:36.840 --> 35:39.840
+You can't govern the globe with a common MTV channel.
+
+35:39.840 --> 35:42.840
+You can't cover the globe with a common religion.
+
+35:42.840 --> 35:50.840
+You govern the globe with a common enemy, a common danger or a common crisis.
+
+35:51.840 --> 36:01.840
+And that's why climate change and public health are the two best ways to unite the world under a global governance structure and they've known that for a while.
+
+36:01.840 --> 36:02.840
+No.
+
+36:02.840 --> 36:03.840
+Yeah.
+
+36:03.840 --> 36:04.840
+Yeah.
+
+36:04.840 --> 36:09.840
+I don't think they're going to win at this game, though, because there's just too many differences.
+
+36:09.840 --> 36:18.840
+There's too much division in terms of how people believe, you know, I mean, you look on a global scale.
+
+36:19.840 --> 36:23.840
+You know, I mean, our own government can't even govern itself.
+
+36:23.840 --> 36:33.840
+So how are they going to, how are they going to organize to, to, to organize people? How are they going to do that? They can't do it.
+
+36:33.840 --> 36:34.840
+Right.
+
+36:34.840 --> 36:36.840
+I mean, maybe it's me.
+
+36:36.840 --> 36:44.840
+I don't know. I mean, honestly, I think that's, that's the, the crazy part of this is that it does really seem.
+
+36:44.840 --> 36:49.840
+That there are very few alternative interpretations of what's happening here.
+
+36:49.840 --> 37:00.840
+I mean, if you, if you find the worst recordings from these people, they say the words right out loud, but if you just try to interpret their behavior, it does seem to be.
+
+37:00.840 --> 37:03.840
+There is a movement to.
+
+37:03.840 --> 37:09.840
+To dilute national sovereignty to the point of meaninglessness.
+
+37:09.840 --> 37:19.840
+And in so doing that, what becomes the power structure, the power structure is, is, is weaponized piles of money.
+
+37:19.840 --> 37:26.840
+And so if the US government is a pile of debt, then that's not the weaponized pile of money that's governing us.
+
+37:26.840 --> 37:33.840
+And so we have to look for these weaponized piles of money, identify them and then take the power away from them.
+
+37:33.840 --> 37:44.840
+Right now, because we're chasing around the origin of a, of a, of a, probably a host of previously existing RNA signals rather than a novel virus.
+
+37:44.840 --> 37:50.840
+And we're debating about a war in a country and in mid Asia.
+
+37:50.840 --> 37:58.840
+We're not thinking about how to escape from their global governance structure. We're just chasing down their, their shiny objects.
+
+37:58.840 --> 38:14.840
+Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, it's interesting is they continue the narrative with the vaccines and the, and, and getting vaccines and they backed away from the mandatory mandated the mandates.
+
+38:14.840 --> 38:16.840
+Oh, how, how.
+
+38:16.840 --> 38:24.840
+I mean, yes, they backed away from the mandates because the legal, the legal space doesn't permit it. They would, they would lose.
+
+38:24.840 --> 38:27.840
+But they haven't backed away from the coercion.
+
+38:27.840 --> 38:33.840
+And you could see awarding the Nobel Prize to these two biochemists as being coercion.
+
+38:33.840 --> 38:45.840
+You are basically for anybody that's unsophisticated enough to understand the biology and the subtle nuances of what informed consent means in the context of transfection.
+
+38:45.840 --> 39:01.840
+If they see a Nobel Prize being awarded to vaccine makers, the average person on the street is not capable of dismissing that, but instead sees a impenetrable illusion of consensus that they save the world.
+
+39:01.840 --> 39:02.840
+Right.
+
+39:02.840 --> 39:08.840
+And that impenetrable illusion of consensus is not easy for the average person to turn away from.
+
+39:08.840 --> 39:19.840
+When everybody on social media agrees, when everybody on TV agrees, it's really hard for average Joe or average Jane to go, well, I don't know if I agree.
+
+39:19.840 --> 39:26.840
+I mean, that's, that's like impossible. That's what the ash conformity experiment is all about. And that's only three people in a room next to you.
+
+39:26.840 --> 39:27.840
+Right.
+
+39:27.840 --> 39:35.840
+It's not people on TV that you respect. It's not influencers that you follow. It's not Hollywood stars you're in love with.
+
+39:35.840 --> 39:41.840
+This is just four random people in a room that all say the wrong answer and you have a hard time disagreeing with them.
+
+39:41.840 --> 39:55.840
+Yeah, don't you think too, though, that you have enough people out there by now that know, because I see a lot of comments where people say, well, I would never get that shot again. I would never never participate in that again.
+
+39:55.840 --> 39:56.840
+Right.
+
+39:56.840 --> 40:06.840
+So don't you think that there's enough people out there now that are just are just they're not they're not they're non takers anymore. They're just not going to do it anymore.
+
+40:06.840 --> 40:11.840
+I don't know. I want to believe you're right. I don't know, though.
+
+40:11.840 --> 40:16.840
+I think there are a lot of people out there that would lie about how many they took.
+
+40:16.840 --> 40:27.840
+I think there are a lot of people out there that are ashamed that they followed the order and are still so afraid and shame that if another order came about, they still wouldn't be able to say no.
+
+40:27.840 --> 40:28.840
+Yeah.
+
+40:28.840 --> 40:34.840
+I'm very pessimistic because I think people have been so confused and terrified.
+
+40:34.840 --> 40:35.840
+Right.
+
+40:35.840 --> 40:43.840
+Trusting the TV that, you know, the, the, the.
+
+40:43.840 --> 40:53.840
+It's almost like you have to be in person with everybody that you want to want to convert. And so the only way, you know, podcasts don't even work. You got to be in person podcast. If you.
+
+40:53.840 --> 40:59.840
+If you're open to these ideas, you can find your way out, but most people aren't open. They don't even know they're not open.
+
+40:59.840 --> 41:00.840
+Yeah.
+
+41:00.840 --> 41:15.840
+But you have enough people, the likes of Edward Dowd who wrote cause unknown. I've interviewed him. You have Robert F Kennedy. Yeah. I think you have enough people out there influencers out there that are getting the work because the word does spread.
+
+41:15.840 --> 41:19.840
+My parents don't talk to me because I, I'm a know it all.
+
+41:19.840 --> 41:26.840
+My own parents haven't talked to me for three years because I lost my job and they think I lied to them about why I lost my job.
+
+41:27.840 --> 41:36.840
+And it's because I'm a know it all. My brother in Texas doesn't talk to me anymore because he wanted me to wear two masks when I came to visit him and I wouldn't.
+
+41:36.840 --> 41:37.840
+Jeez.
+
+41:37.840 --> 41:47.840
+So these people are spectacularly committed to this lie because if they're not, then their whole worldview will be shaken.
+
+41:47.840 --> 42:04.840
+They will have to admit that they believed a spectacular. I mean, it's too much for them. My parents are for going seeing their grandchildren for three years under the stipulation that their son is an idiot.
+
+42:04.840 --> 42:14.840
+I mean, they know that I was, I was hired by Robert F Kennedy Jr. and I can only assume that that makes them even more certain that I'm an idiot.
+
+42:14.840 --> 42:17.840
+Jeez.
+
+42:17.840 --> 42:20.840
+I mean, what is a kind of take?
+
+42:20.840 --> 42:24.840
+That's the question I ask almost every day I wake up.
+
+42:24.840 --> 42:28.840
+But it is really this serious. And so as hopeful as I am,
+
+42:29.840 --> 42:36.840
+I think that we're in for a long ride yet because the people that are committed are still really committed.
+
+42:36.840 --> 42:38.840
+Yeah.
+
+42:38.840 --> 42:43.840
+So that takes us up to 2022.
+
+42:43.840 --> 42:55.840
+And what I want to do is I want to get into the vaccine a little bit. I want to talk to you about that and get into the technology.
+
+42:56.840 --> 43:09.840
+The where we're with the future looks like as far as this vaccine program and what's going to happen and what you think is going to happen. Sure.
+
+43:09.840 --> 43:17.840
+Maybe I can do a little explanation first of my understanding of the technology and why I think it that way.
+
+43:17.840 --> 43:18.840
+Hold your thought. Sure.
+
+43:18.840 --> 43:35.840
+I got to turn up the light.
+
+43:35.840 --> 43:42.840
+It's getting dark here in Florida. So I had to put up the lights a little bit. Was it like in the dark?
+
+43:42.840 --> 43:47.840
+So getting back to the vaccine.
+
+43:47.840 --> 43:57.840
+Yeah. So the, the basic gist that everybody should have in, in born in mind is this technology is not new.
+
+43:57.840 --> 44:07.840
+Medical science and biological science from the academic perspective. When I say academic science, I mean stuff that's done on a bench at a university under grant money.
+
+44:07.840 --> 44:16.840
+All of this research is generally done with animals. So everybody knows that we use mice, we use rats, we use monkeys, we use guinea pigs, whatever.
+
+44:16.840 --> 44:31.840
+And in all of these lower mammals, there are a wide variety of ways to genetically alter them temporarily or permanently in order to probe the way that physiological systems work.
+
+44:31.840 --> 44:41.840
+In the past 25 years, one of the most powerful techniques that has been used to probe mammalian physiology is the knockout mouse.
+
+44:41.840 --> 44:47.840
+And in the knockout mouse, what you do is you take a gene in the genome and you delete it.
+
+44:47.840 --> 44:50.840
+And then you grow mice without that gene.
+
+44:50.840 --> 44:59.840
+And although it's not a perfect physiological model, although the physiology compensates for the missing of that gene.
+
+44:59.840 --> 45:14.840
+Oftentimes, especially with genes that play crucial roles in physiological processes, you can prove their role in that physiological process by removing the gene and show that that process is disrupted.
+
+45:14.840 --> 45:26.840
+And this is occasionally useful because as you're probably aware, there are many genetic diseases which essentially are deletions or their enzymes that don't work anymore.
+
+45:26.840 --> 45:31.840
+And so that's essentially a deletion of a gene. And so then you get this disease manifesting.
+
+45:31.840 --> 45:37.840
+Now, in order to create animal models of disease, that's often what we've done.
+
+45:37.840 --> 45:52.840
+And if we associate a gene with schizophrenia, then we make a mouse model with the knockout gene and call that a schizophrenia mouse model where you've knocked out the gene that has a propensity for schizophrenia.
+
+45:52.840 --> 46:00.840
+And you look at the mouse's behavior to see if there's any differences and see if that tells you anything about how schizophrenia works.
+
+46:00.840 --> 46:08.840
+However, as my thing, well, that's a dumb experiment because if the gene causes schizophrenia and you delete it, then you haven't created anything.
+
+46:08.840 --> 46:17.840
+But it was to illustrate the sort of blunt force manipulation that genetic knockouts are.
+
+46:17.840 --> 46:23.840
+You can't learn that much because if the mouse lives, then the physiology compensates.
+
+46:23.840 --> 46:29.840
+And so the physiology of that knockout mouse is different than what it would have been if it had that gene.
+
+46:29.840 --> 46:35.840
+So here's where transfection and transformation come in.
+
+46:35.840 --> 46:51.840
+Because to make that probing experiment better, what you want to do is be able to turn the gene off or to turn it on after the animal has fully developed and is a normal mouse.
+
+46:52.840 --> 46:59.840
+And that's what transfection and transformation have allowed academic biologists to do for the last 20 years.
+
+46:59.840 --> 47:06.840
+Transfection is the use of mRNA in a tissue in an animal to express a protein.
+
+47:06.840 --> 47:17.840
+It can also be to knock down the expression of a protein if you use the right mRNA, which interferes with the native mRNA that's expressing the protein of interest.
+
+47:17.840 --> 47:24.840
+The trick of this is so cool is that wherever you inject the RNA, that's where the change occurs.
+
+47:24.840 --> 47:32.840
+So you can knock out the gene functions in certain neurons, in certain parts of the brain, in the liver, somewhere else.
+
+47:32.840 --> 47:52.840
+And so transfection, the use of mRNA to interfere with protein expression or to up regulate it or to induce novel protein expression in order to perturb a system to do an experiment to see how a mouse works has been done for about 20 years.
+
+47:52.840 --> 48:15.840
+They used gold particles, electricity, and liposomes, which are essentially lipid nanoparticles with a less complicated name, to put mRNA into small blebs and put them into places to use animals' experiments where we wanted to change the transient expression of a protein.
+
+48:15.840 --> 48:24.840
+So you can go on websites all around the world and find biotech companies that are selling transfection and transformation agents.
+
+48:24.840 --> 48:30.840
+Now, transformation is the same process, but you use DNA to do it.
+
+48:30.840 --> 48:37.840
+And very typically in bench biology, the vector for that is an adenovirus.
+
+48:37.840 --> 48:44.840
+So that should bring a bell because they used adenovirus for AstraZeneca and for Johnson & Johnson.
+
+48:44.840 --> 49:04.840
+So they used very typical transformation and very typical transfection, a known methodology in academic science for 20 years and started calling it a vaccine.
+
+49:05.840 --> 49:14.840
+And every single biologist in the world that's worth their salt should have said, whoa, we can't do that.
+
+49:14.840 --> 49:21.840
+That's not vaccination. That's transformation. That's transfection. They should have just said that.
+
+49:22.840 --> 49:33.840
+So share with the viewers and listeners the difference between the traditional vaccines that you may have gotten, you know, 30, 40 years ago, or even 15 or 20 years ago.
+
+49:33.840 --> 49:44.840
+And this, what I call, they use it, they call it emergency use authorization, I call it experimental use authorization gene bio weapon. What's the difference?
+
+49:44.840 --> 49:59.840
+It's really not. I mean, bio weapon just has this, has this, you know, military context to it, but you can also just think of it as like totalitarian governance.
+
+49:59.840 --> 50:04.840
+You have no choice. We're going to lie to you in order to achieve this goal.
+
+50:04.840 --> 50:14.840
+And we're going to be so spectacularly committed to the lie that even when it doesn't work out like we planned, we're just going to keep lying about it.
+
+50:14.840 --> 50:36.840
+The tricky thing with previous, the previous vaccine schedule is that, you know, this was a unscrutinized legal safe haven that all of the pharmaceutical companies, the FDA, the CDC was well aware of.
+
+50:36.840 --> 50:53.840
+And an entire sort of alternative legal system exists in order to shift the risk of vaccine adverse events from the manufacturers to the taxpayer.
+
+50:53.840 --> 51:16.840
+And interestingly, that system, as bad as it was for the citizenry, was still capable of preventing something like this happening. And it's actually the prep act and a declaration of emergency that allowed emergency use authorization to be granted to everything that we did.
+
+51:16.840 --> 51:30.840
+And that's something that maybe people aren't aware of. But even the PCR test is not something that was really clinically evaluated. It was, it was given an emergency use authorized blanket approval.
+
+51:31.840 --> 51:50.840
+And it's not really approval, but it's permissions. And then all of the variants of the PCR test were covered under those EU's so at some point, I think we had 220 different products that purported to be PCR based coronavirus tests in America.
+
+51:50.840 --> 51:53.840
+And none of those tests exist anymore.
+
+51:54.840 --> 52:05.840
+They're all gone. All those little companies, all those little testing, they all disappeared. All the content tracing companies, they're all gone.
+
+52:05.840 --> 52:12.840
+Even the inventor of the PCR tests mentioned that it's not full proof. It's not accurate.
+
+52:12.840 --> 52:22.840
+No, yeah, and that's really where the virology stuff comes back full circle. I mean, we can go there.
+
+52:22.840 --> 52:33.840
+If you went, if you went into the literature before 2020, what you would find is a, a consensus lamentation.
+
+52:33.840 --> 52:40.840
+So they were all consensus agreed that it's sad that we can't really find coronavirus is that easy.
+
+52:40.840 --> 52:54.840
+And in fact, we should put some money into trying to come up with a pan coronavirus test. One that can just find a coronavirus so that we can find them easier.
+
+52:54.840 --> 53:10.840
+And we're talking after SARS one, this was like a major focus. And what became clear in the literature is that the best they could do is look for signals that are shared across all coronaviruses.
+
+53:11.840 --> 53:26.840
+And so the original pan coronavirus tests aimed at the end protein and the RNA dependent polymerase. These are two genes of coronaviruses that across hundreds of coronaviruses.
+
+53:27.840 --> 53:42.840
+They're very, very little. And for non biologists out there, the way to think about this is on an automobile. Some things are very different across automobiles because they're not crucial to the way the automobile functions.
+
+53:43.840 --> 54:03.840
+Some people might be the interior. Some, some automobiles have very cheap vinyl interior and very uncomfortable seats with no headrest and a very crappy scenario. Other cars have leather interior with cedar inlay and, and, you know, whatever other amenities you can imagine.
+
+54:04.840 --> 54:22.840
+But if you were to compare the wheels of those two cars, the rubber content would be very similar. The size of the wheels would be very similar. Their durability would be very similar. Their properties, their mechanical requirements are very, very similar because they serve a vital purpose for the car.
+
+54:23.840 --> 54:41.840
+If you open the hood, you would find that they both have internal combustion engines, most likely because, again, that's a conserved aspect of automobiles. And in coronaviruses, the most conserved aspects of their genome are the genomes that are the parts of the genome that are most important to their high functioning.
+
+54:42.840 --> 54:58.840
+So the RNA, the pen and RNA polymerase is how it copies itself. So that gene is really similar across all of them. And the end protein is the protein around which the genome is wrapped, another protein that's very conserved across coronaviruses.
+
+54:59.840 --> 55:24.840
+So interestingly, most are all of the first year of coronavirus PCR tests were aimed at those two genes. And if you looked at previous coronavirus literature, the only conclusion to come to is that there's no way for those two genes to be specific enough to identify a novel coronavirus because they're the perfect genes to find all of them.
+
+55:24.840 --> 55:53.840
+Right. So they really did a bait and switch. They did. And you hear a lot of sentiment about the vaccines containing, and I interviewed Dr. Maria Mahalcha, hydrogels, because you did mention the nanoparticle, lit liposome, but also hydrogels, and there's supposedly electromagnetic metals that are in there, and it's supposed to be tied to 5G.
+
+55:54.840 --> 56:11.840
+How true is that? I got to be honest with you, James, I think it was also part of the scam. There was too much for knowledge of the potential for these kinds of contaminants from the very beginning.
+
+56:11.840 --> 56:22.840
+I would go so far as to say that the first time I heard someone say that coronavirus was going to be activated by 5G was in February of 2020.
+
+56:22.840 --> 56:34.840
+And that's just absurd. There's no way that kind of narrative would already be out there, and people would be angry about fighting the 5G conspiracy theory.
+
+56:34.840 --> 56:46.840
+The only way that's out there is if that was for real. And there are patents. There are technologies that use graphene as a 5G antenna.
+
+56:46.840 --> 56:58.840
+There are people who aren't lying about having magnetic spots on their body. I have no idea what these people are on or what they've done, but they can't all be liars.
+
+56:59.840 --> 57:20.840
+And my best guess is, my friend, that they knew that the more of these appearing to be anecdotal stories that seemed crazy that were out there, the more likely the real stories of misery caused by the vaccine could be dismissed.
+
+57:21.840 --> 57:39.840
+And so if you're also hearing stories about 5G and graphene oxide and hydras and whatever else being in the shot, then when somebody says, well, you know, people are having clotting reactions to the second shot, it's like, yeah, it's the same.
+
+57:39.840 --> 57:46.840
+It's all the same, you know, they took J&J off the market because that one was having problems. They were honest.
+
+57:47.840 --> 57:58.840
+And so the whole, I really feel very convinced that the entire script, even the parts that seemed like we're off script were actually on script.
+
+57:58.840 --> 58:05.840
+Every leak is on script, every argument about things in front of the Senate on camera was on script.
+
+58:06.840 --> 58:15.840
+Every whistleblower basically is on script except for the people who are willing to question the virus and there aren't very many of them.
+
+58:15.840 --> 58:16.840
+Yeah.
+
+58:16.840 --> 58:17.840
+Yeah.
+
+58:17.840 --> 58:27.840
+It's really, it's really a problem because I think there are lots of really good people that were co-opted at the beginning because this was such a.
+
+58:27.840 --> 58:33.840
+It was such a clandestine operation. I mean, I don't know if you're aware of this, for example, I have a.
+
+58:34.840 --> 58:39.840
+I have a couple really close friends that I've made through the pandemic.
+
+58:39.840 --> 58:44.840
+And I also had, you would never know this.
+
+58:44.840 --> 58:50.840
+I also had an ex girlfriend who worked in Hollywood and she's dead now.
+
+58:50.840 --> 58:57.840
+I believe the reason why she's dead is because she was forced to take the vaccine to get on set.
+
+58:58.840 --> 58:59.840
+For her work.
+
+58:59.840 --> 59:02.840
+And then she got advanced brain cancer and died within a year.
+
+59:02.840 --> 59:10.840
+I know this might be true because another friend of mine who also is circulating in Hollywood.
+
+59:11.840 --> 59:25.840
+Told me stories in 2021 that Christmas parties in 2020 were visited by private doctors claiming to have the vaccine.
+
+59:25.840 --> 59:38.840
+And they vaccinated people at Hollywood parties and on sets of movies during December of 2020 and January of 21 before they were even given it to old people.
+
+59:39.840 --> 59:42.840
+And they also did this on TV sets.
+
+59:42.840 --> 59:49.840
+So there are probably newscasters that got the first dose of the vaccine before it was even released.
+
+59:49.840 --> 59:57.840
+And so those people are in a really interesting position because there would have to admit that they.
+
+59:57.840 --> 01:00:07.840
+Sort of circumvented the system and cut in line because they were considered national priority people that couldn't get sick because they were on the news or they were on.
+
+01:00:08.840 --> 01:00:11.840
+They were in Hollywood so we didn't want them to speak out.
+
+01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:12.840
+Right.
+
+01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:13.840
+So we got them first.
+
+01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:14.840
+Dr. Cooley.
+
+01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:19.840
+I lost eight personally know eight people that died from the vaccination.
+
+01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:20.840
+Right.
+
+01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:21.840
+Eight.
+
+01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:22.840
+Thirty years old.
+
+01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:23.840
+Eight.
+
+01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:24.840
+Eight.
+
+01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:25.840
+My wife's.
+
+01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:26.840
+Yeah.
+
+01:00:26.840 --> 01:00:28.840
+My wife's when she was an exchange student her.
+
+01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:29.840
+Her.
+
+01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:35.840
+Guardian parents at the time when she was going to school in the United States.
+
+01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:38.840
+Their grandson died.
+
+01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:39.840
+Dropped dead.
+
+01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:41.840
+I have a friend she died of.
+
+01:00:41.840 --> 01:00:43.840
+She had gotten turbo cancer.
+
+01:00:43.840 --> 01:00:46.840
+She had gotten liver cancer within a couple months.
+
+01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:47.840
+She was healthy.
+
+01:00:47.840 --> 01:00:48.840
+All these people were healthy.
+
+01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:52.840
+A couple other friends died suddenly from cardiac arrest.
+
+01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:55.840
+Well, most of them died from cardiac arrest.
+
+01:00:56.840 --> 01:01:01.840
+So, I mean, if you ask me how many people do I know died from.
+
+01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:04.840
+COVID, not zero, none.
+
+01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:05.840
+Right.
+
+01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:14.840
+They didn't let people in the hospitals to see relatives because they saw that hospitals are, you know, it's off limits for anybody to visit a hospital.
+
+01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:15.840
+Does it occur to you?
+
+01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:17.840
+I'm not a doctor James, but you are.
+
+01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:21.840
+I'm actually I was the practice manager and owner.
+
+01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:34.840
+Does it occur to you though that I want to talk to more doctors about this because I really have the feeling that when I was a kid that I knew men who had multiple heart attacks.
+
+01:01:34.840 --> 01:01:35.840
+Right.
+
+01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:39.840
+And now I'm hearing stories about people that have heart attacks that can't be revived.
+
+01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:41.840
+And I didn't know that that happened very often.
+
+01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:50.840
+I understand that might happen when you're 90, but I knew lots of people growing up men that had heart attacks when they were 50 and they didn't die from it.
+
+01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:57.840
+Why are our heart attacks becoming more deadly and that would be a signal you would think.
+
+01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:10.840
+Yeah, that I have a friend. He's a pediatric cardiologist. I interviewed him about three weeks ago. We were talking about the auto immune response with the vaccination amongst pediatric patients.
+
+01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:21.840
+And we talked, we discussed Kawasaki disease versus multiple systemic inflammatory disease and pediatric patients.
+
+01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:24.840
+And we're going to actually do a follow up interview as well.
+
+01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:26.840
+I was under the assumption that those were the same.
+
+01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:30.840
+But my myocarditis.
+
+01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:33.840
+No, I thought you said Kawasaki syndrome and then MSC.
+
+01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:34.840
+Yeah, MSC right.
+
+01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:36.840
+Oh, they're the same thing though, right? Okay. Yeah.
+
+01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:41.840
+They're relatively the same. They're a little bit different. They present differently.
+
+01:02:41.840 --> 01:02:52.840
+But my question to you is with this mRNA technology, because it produces the protein, it mimics the protein.
+
+01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:53.840
+And it is it.
+
+01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:55.840
+And this is a question to you.
+
+01:02:55.840 --> 01:03:05.840
+Is it does it mimic the spike protein? Does it produce this actual spikes, the messenger RNA because it goes from what translation of transcription to produce these proteins, right?
+
+01:03:05.840 --> 01:03:09.840
+Does it produce the spike protein? Is that my that's my question to you?
+
+01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:16.840
+Yeah, so I think it's it's transcription and then translation, but it doesn't matter.
+
+01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:19.840
+But I say transcription to translation.
+
+01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:25.840
+Yeah, I get them mixed up all the time too. I'm not trying to correct you. That was just me trying to get into the groove. It's.
+
+01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:28.840
+So there's a couple of things to keep in mind.
+
+01:03:29.840 --> 01:03:40.840
+First and foremost is the cartoon version of the injection and the cartoon version is what they talk about on TV. The cartoon version is what they sold you.
+
+01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:50.840
+The cartoon version is the stupid simple version, which is that the lipid nanoparticle is completely inert because you have lipids in your body.
+
+01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:51.840
+Right.
+
+01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:55.840
+The mRNA is completely inert because you have mRNA in your body.
+
+01:03:55.840 --> 01:04:03.840
+And the mRNA doesn't last very long because mRNA doesn't last very long. So it just makes some protein in your body clears the protein and it's fine.
+
+01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:20.840
+Now there's infinitely many things wrong with that. The first is that when they release the data about the mRNA product and they ran a gel to look at the RNA, they didn't get a single band, but they got a smear.
+
+01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:31.840
+And to explain that to your listeners, a gel is a kind of gradient of thickness or density.
+
+01:04:31.840 --> 01:04:46.840
+And if you put proteins in the top of it and then you use electricity to draw the proteins down through the gel, the lighter, smaller proteins will move faster and the heavier proteins will move slower.
+
+01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:59.840
+And so after about an hour, very heavy proteins will have moved a little bit and the lighter proteins will move farther and you will have separated all of the proteins in your sample by weight.
+
+01:04:59.840 --> 01:05:14.840
+So the more pure that your RNA would be, the more crystal clear the bands would be. So for example, if you had a heavy RNA and a light RNA and they were both pure and equal quantities,
+
+01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:36.840
+then after running the gel you would see one line right here and one line right here corresponding to a light and a heavy chain of RNA and they would be at predictable heights based on how long you ran them on the gel because the gel will tell you then how heavy the RNA is based on the distance between.
+
+01:05:37.840 --> 01:05:54.840
+Now in the mRNA for this shot, what they should have seen is a band at 1,400 bases of weight because the molecular weight would be about 1,400 bases of RNA, a rough number.
+
+01:05:54.840 --> 01:06:19.840
+But instead they saw a continuous smear meaning that there were protein fragments of all weights and sizes from the size of the spike protein down to very tiny, which means that if they injected that RNA into you only a small portion of it would code for the whole spike and the rest of this smear would code for a wide variety of partial
+
+01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:29.840
+viral proteins, which in no way shape or form would guarantee a robust immune response meaningful to the pathogen from which that originated.
+
+01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:58.840
+But my other question too is it seems like, okay, and this is again a question to you, in case the messenger RNA, correct me if I'm wrong, but they encased the messenger RNA inside of a nano lipid particle correct because the messenger RNA would denature and I remember they got rid of a big batch of product that was not under their correct temperature in transport.
+
+01:06:59.840 --> 01:07:18.840
+So is that because it denatured the messenger RNA that was encapsulated in part? I actually have learned more recently that this might have been more to do with the fact that the way that they get the lipid nanoparticle down to size is actually a proprietary methodology.
+
+01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:31.840
+And as you can imagine with any fat or oil on top of water, the default is not millions of tiny little droplets, but the default is to form one big droplet.
+
+01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:41.840
+And in fact, I think the majority of the reason why they needed to keep it cool originally was the mRNA needs to be cold.
+
+01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:50.840
+But I actually think the secret was that the lipids, the lipid nanoparticles won't be nanoparticles anymore if they're not cold because they'll start to fuse.
+
+01:07:50.840 --> 01:07:56.840
+And the toxicity of the lipid nanoparticle itself goes up exponentially as they become bigger.
+
+01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:01.840
+Right. And then it would expose the messenger RNA that's protected by the nanoparticle, correct?
+
+01:08:01.840 --> 01:08:11.840
+I think so. I mean, but I don't know if it's so much to do with the degradation of the RNA because that's, from my perspective as a biologist, that's been grossly exaggerated.
+
+01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:12.840
+Yes.
+
+01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:21.840
+We have RNA, RNAces are everywhere that we have RNAces in our skin oil, all that stuff, and we have to use gloves when we use RNA in a laboratory.
+
+01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:39.840
+But I think that that aspect of RNA has been exaggerated for the purpose of rolling out this shot because I've done lots of experiments with PCR and use lots of shortcuts and whatever.
+
+01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:50.840
+And it still works. If your signal is robust, it's fine. It's really when you're when you're trying to do science as best as possible because you're trying to make a new discovery.
+
+01:08:50.840 --> 01:08:58.840
+Then, of course, you're going to wear gloves and you're going to make sure that no foreign RNA gets into your sample because you don't know what you're doing and you're doing science.
+
+01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:17.840
+But with regard to this injection, I think that what has been revealed by the scaling up of the manufacturing by the just gross negligence with regard to quality control has been revealed is that actually the RNA is not that unstable.
+
+01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:25.840
+It's probably not. It's much more likely that they just can't make it. It's much more likely that they just can't purify it.
+
+01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:35.840
+It's much more likely that the lipid nanoparticle by by congeolating causes more toxicity than the RNA ever could.
+
+01:09:36.840 --> 01:09:46.840
+It's not to say that I'm not discounting transfection as being bad. I'm still firmly convinced that transfection cannot be used to augment your immune system.
+
+01:09:46.840 --> 01:10:00.840
+But I'm trying to suggest that like a lot of these other narratives at the beginning of the pandemic, the narrative of keeping it cool or we need to have minus 80 freezers in every pharmacy.
+
+01:10:01.840 --> 01:10:15.840
+This was all designed to distract and get people to debate about things that really weren't in play because if you're debating about the storage of the vaccine, then you're not debating about whether you should even take it.
+
+01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:25.840
+I really think we've just been so often shown a shiny object and shown people arguing about it and that's definitely one of them because now they don't care.
+
+01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:31.840
+Now you can store vaccine in a regular refrigerator and nothing's changed about the formulation.
+
+01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:37.840
+Right. So that's clearly wasn't bullshit. Excuse my language.
+
+01:10:37.840 --> 01:10:46.840
+Yeah, that's okay. That's good. But so what you're saying though, it's still encapsulated in a nanoparticle, the messenger RNA, correct?
+
+01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:50.840
+It is as far as we can tell. Yeah, that's what 10.
+
+01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:57.840
+So it's more like a time release capsule is what it, what it sounds like. And then because they're saying that.
+
+01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:03.840
+And I interviewed Dr. William Macus and several other physicians that had mentioned that.
+
+01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:10.840
+You know, and a lot of people will say professionals will say, well, you know,
+
+01:11:10.840 --> 01:11:17.840
+just because you didn't get an acute reaction from it, like some people did.
+
+01:11:17.840 --> 01:11:22.840
+Over time, it's going to affect people and they're saying, well, you know,
+
+01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:32.840
+according to a timeline, it could be a year, year and a half, two years and even three years after the shot that this can affect you.
+
+01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:34.840
+Is that true?
+
+01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:36.840
+It has to be.
+
+01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:47.840
+I don't think that there's any other way to characterize it simply because unlike all previous vaccines that are basically combinations of inert substances.
+
+01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:54.840
+They might have put an irritating chemical in combination with a, with a recombinant protein.
+
+01:11:54.840 --> 01:12:02.840
+They might have put a couple of chemicals in with a couple of recombinant proteins, but those substances were all inert.
+
+01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:08.840
+And so the challenge was your body to clear those substances without making any mistakes.
+
+01:12:08.840 --> 01:12:17.840
+And so you can imagine many scenarios where that toxic adjuvant can cause bad reactions.
+
+01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:26.840
+The toxic adjuvant can activate your immune system and then a secondary exposure to something else like Tylenol could cause damage to your body.
+
+01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:35.840
+But with transfection, you're actually creating a whole nother scenario because again, let me repeat that.
+
+01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:46.840
+Old vaccines as, as, as sort of blunt as they are because they are very blunt if you describe them.
+
+01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:52.840
+You are, you are bypassing the immune system in order to augment it.
+
+01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:55.840
+They have all inert substances in them.
+
+01:12:55.840 --> 01:13:06.840
+Now with the transfection, what you are doing is expressing a foreign protein in tissues throughout your body.
+
+01:13:06.840 --> 01:13:08.840
+Now we were told that it stays in the muscle.
+
+01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:11.840
+It'll go away in a few days, but we now know that that's not the case.
+
+01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:15.840
+It definitely doesn't stay in the muscle and it can go anywhere.
+
+01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:20.840
+And wherever it goes, this RNA will cause the expression of a foreign protein.
+
+01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:33.840
+That is not, that is not an immune problem that your immune system is organized and has evolved to deal with.
+
+01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:43.840
+There is no scenario in mother nature where your cells will express a foreign protein inside of your body.
+
+01:13:43.840 --> 01:13:45.840
+You can't name one.
+
+01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:58.840
+And even in a viral infection, the cells are being made to manufacture proteins when there is a barrier or at a barrier.
+
+01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:05.840
+So when you are infected with a virus, there are a very specific set of cells which is infected by a virus.
+
+01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:12.840
+And it is not your muscle, it's not your ovary, it's not your endothelial cells, it's not your liver.
+
+01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:22.840
+It's none of these. It is first and foremost a barrier of your gut, your skin, your lungs, your nasal and mucosal.
+
+01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:30.840
+So the whole idea of injection into the muscle is already from my humble opinion, quite sketchy,
+
+01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:40.840
+and we're probably going to come to the realization in the next four or five years that that was a ridiculous assumption that we could augment the immune system with a simple injection into the muscle.
+
+01:14:40.840 --> 01:14:47.840
+But transfection creates a scenario not like that because again, let me say it one more time.
+
+01:14:47.840 --> 01:14:55.840
+A combination of inert substances put into your muscle is a challenge for your immune system to clear.
+
+01:14:55.840 --> 01:15:09.840
+A transfection challenges your immune system to clear your own cells without making autoimmunity to them.
+
+01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:21.840
+So when you get injected with a regular vaccine, your body is being challenged to clear the aluminum, to clear the adjuvant and to clear the recombinant protein.
+
+01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:34.840
+In a transfection, the foreign proteins are expressed on cells internally, and the only alternative for your immune system is to reject those cells as foreign.
+
+01:15:34.840 --> 01:15:40.840
+And in so doing, the immune system destroys them and cleans them up.
+
+01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:56.840
+And in cleaning them up, there is always a chance that it will present a self antigen and create self-recognizing immunity, which is autoimmunity, and that happens every time you force your body to clear a transfection.
+
+01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:07.840
+Now, let me just catch my breath and say that one of the things that I learned as an academic biologist is that transfection is indeed transient.
+
+01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:25.840
+So when we use it in mice, one of the things that we like to do that makes the mice experiment so valuable is to sacrifice the mouse afterward and go back into the brain and anatomically chart what neurons we had altered,
+
+01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:35.840
+what neurons we expressed protein in, what neurons we decreased protein expression in, so that we can evaluate the results of our experiment.
+
+01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:47.840
+One of the limitations of transfection in this use is that you can't make a mouse permanently change with transfection because the immune system comes in.
+
+01:16:47.840 --> 01:17:06.840
+So in other words, if we were to, if this, my head is the mouse and we're going to transfect the mouse in the frontal cortex, if we cut the mouse up after six weeks and we make slices of the brain and we stain for the protein that we transfected, we will find it.
+
+01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:15.840
+And we can identify how much and what neurons were there and make some story about how we changed the brain function and how that was reflected in the behavior.
+
+01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:25.840
+However, if we were to wait about 12 weeks and cut the same slices, we would find those neurons gone.
+
+01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:32.840
+The immune system would have destroyed them and they would have died from the overexpression of a foreign protein.
+
+01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:39.840
+So those two combine to create an intolerable situation that the immune system gets rid of.
+
+01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:44.840
+And so we're not worried about that because we just breed more mice.
+
+01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:48.840
+We're not worried about that because that was part of the experimental plan.
+
+01:17:48.840 --> 01:18:07.840
+But for the four-year-old child with a lifelong lifetime to live, you can't dare the immune system to clear a few of these cells and don't make a mistake or you'll be a handicapped immune system for the rest of your life.
+
+01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:18.840
+You can't roll those dice with a child. In fact, you can't roll those dice with any healthy mammal that you want to live a long healthy life afterward, not even an elderly person.
+
+01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:30.840
+Right. So what you're saying too is that this vaccine or whatever you want to call it at this point, it penetrates the blood-brain barrier pretty easy.
+
+01:18:30.840 --> 01:18:37.840
+I don't think there's anything stopping it. I mean, the only thing that's stopping it is that there are cells in between.
+
+01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:47.840
+So it is likely that the lipid nanoparticle will deposit in an endothelial cell as it's crossing the blood-brain barrier.
+
+01:18:47.840 --> 01:18:51.840
+But if it makes it across, then it's all game on.
+
+01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:56.840
+I mean, as far as we can tell, these lipid nanoparticles can go in and out of cells.
+
+01:18:56.840 --> 01:19:00.840
+They don't have to go in and then disappear.
+
+01:19:00.840 --> 01:19:06.840
+They're very, very difficult to understand and where they show up is everywhere.
+
+01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:09.840
+So that's the tricky part.
+
+01:19:09.840 --> 01:19:19.840
+And everywhere that they show up, the immune system is going to be challenged in a way that it's never been challenged before, not to make a mistake and accidentally trigger auto-immunity.
+
+01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:23.840
+Every time you take a shot, you're triggering this.
+
+01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:33.840
+And then the worst part is that any immune response made to the protein will become more robust.
+
+01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:36.840
+So let's just think of the best case scenario.
+
+01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:45.840
+You get transfected in your muscle and all of your muscle gets transfected and your immune system destroys a lot of your deltoid.
+
+01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:48.840
+It's painful. It takes weeks to heal.
+
+01:19:48.840 --> 01:19:51.840
+And this would be the best case scenario if it all stayed there.
+
+01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:58.840
+You'd get a lesion in your deltoid created by the immune system destroying parts of your muscle.
+
+01:19:58.840 --> 01:20:09.840
+So now you take your second injection and the antibodies that are circulating in your body land on the spike protein where it is transfected.
+
+01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:19.840
+So now the spike protein goes into your coronary artery and it transfects some of the cells into endothelium.
+
+01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:27.840
+So now the antibodies that were produced by the injection that only affected your muscle in the fantasy scenario.
+
+01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:37.840
+Now those antibodies are all in your body circulating around and when the spike protein gets expressed in your heart, now the antibodies deposit there
+
+01:20:37.840 --> 01:20:43.840
+and your immune system can show up 15 times faster than it did the first time.
+
+01:20:43.840 --> 01:20:49.840
+And the next time you get a shot, the immune system will show up even quicker.
+
+01:20:49.840 --> 01:20:59.840
+And this is the problem because if you are transfecting your endothelial cells, you are necessarily interacting with the clotting system.
+
+01:20:59.840 --> 01:21:13.840
+And at this stage, you know, that all bets are off because once you've activated the seroprevalence in your blood, then at any point in time, those antibodies can trigger inflammation.
+
+01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:22.840
+They can trigger neutrophil attack. They can trigger cytotoxic T cell responses and they can trigger the complement system.
+
+01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:31.840
+And all of those things are potentially avalanche type disasters where once the biology starts, you can't stop it anymore.
+
+01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:41.840
+So what you're saying too, it's over working the immune system, it's a pretty much an autoimmune response.
+
+01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:48.840
+Does that explain also why oncogenes get triggered for turbo cancers? Is that?
+
+01:21:48.840 --> 01:22:01.840
+You know, there's a lot of there's a lot of speculation about that because the spike protein itself supposedly has some molecular components that might interact with some of these tumor suppressor genes.
+
+01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:12.840
+But I'm not sophisticated enough of biologists to know what fidelity the spike protein would need to be expressed in in order for that effect to occur.
+
+01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:23.840
+Most of the experiments that have covered this have been very in vitro limited experiments, but they show the interaction between the spike protein and some of these tumor suppressors.
+
+01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:34.840
+My guess is that it's a little less fantastic than them having some specific inserts in the spike protein.
+
+01:22:34.840 --> 01:22:40.840
+It's probably a more general reason why the immune system becomes dysregulated.
+
+01:22:40.840 --> 01:22:44.840
+One of those reasons might be something to do with the spike protein though.
+
+01:22:44.840 --> 01:23:11.840
+If the spike protein, for example, some of the more terrible rumors include that the spike protein has a short MHC2, which is the major histocompatibility complex, is the protein that every cell in your body uses as an ID.
+
+01:23:12.840 --> 01:23:18.840
+This is just another brief piece of biology for everybody to understand how the immune system works.
+
+01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:28.840
+There are cells of the immune system patrolling your body all the time for cancerous cells and for foreign material and foreign things.
+
+01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:44.840
+The way that they do it is they roll along, they're called natural killer cells, they roll along, and they look at what the cells are doing by looking at what protein fragments they're displaying on MHC.
+
+01:23:44.840 --> 01:23:50.840
+MHC being major histocompatibility complex, and there are two different ones.
+
+01:23:50.840 --> 01:23:56.840
+The one MHC1 is used by all the cells in your body to use as an ID.
+
+01:23:56.840 --> 01:24:14.840
+If the immune system approaches your ovaries and your ovaries are busy with homeostasis, on the outside they'll have a few MHC molecules that are displaying self-proteins that are specific for ovary cells.
+
+01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:27.840
+And if they're cancerous, they will end up displaying fragments of proteins that are not generally displayed by ovary cells, and therefore the immune system can come in and say,
+
+01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:35.840
+Hey, why are you showing me this protein? You should be showing me an ovary protein, and we can get rid of that cell.
+
+01:24:35.840 --> 01:24:51.840
+And that's basically how cancer is patrolled in the body, is that normal tissues display the correct proteins and cancerous, invasive, or infected tissues display incorrect proteins.
+
+01:24:51.840 --> 01:25:09.840
+So this trick is especially well known by people who design vaccines because it is what is displayed on MHC2 in the immune system that is called the epitope that is identified in the virus.
+
+01:25:10.840 --> 01:25:21.840
+So whatever the immune system chooses to display on MHC2 to teach T cells is the epitope that the immune system is chosen to make memory to.
+
+01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:29.840
+Now there's a rumor that the spike protein has a MHC, or in humans, it's called HAI.
+
+01:25:29.840 --> 01:25:32.840
+I'm probably going to confuse everybody now.
+
+01:25:32.840 --> 01:25:55.840
+It seems to have a small sequence that could be a sort of general match for MHC2, and the implication of that is that a protein that had that sequence on it might be able to more easily activate the immune system because of that sequence.
+
+01:25:56.840 --> 01:26:18.840
+So in my worst case scenario imagination, I can see a scenario where if they wanted to make a successful mRNA vaccine, they would tell you that this protein that they found on this virus is this protein that has this extra little thing on it that acts as a natural adjuvant.
+
+01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:31.840
+And so we got lucky. Look, we put this protein in 45 minutes later, we made the RNA, we injected it in the people, and they made a robust immune response.
+
+01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:35.840
+That doesn't always happen.
+
+01:26:35.840 --> 01:26:49.840
+And so it becomes more and more sort of difficult to divorce the long history of work that has been done on trying to activate the immune system with small proteins.
+
+01:26:49.840 --> 01:27:04.840
+And the idea that they would put one of these activating small protein sequences into a coronavirus spike and then say that, look, we found a novel coronavirus and here's the spike and we're going to use the spike for a vaccine.
+
+01:27:05.840 --> 01:27:25.840
+And lo and behold, we get a robust immune response. It works like a charm. That would have been one of the very easy and quite frankly well known ways that they could have created an immunogenic protein that would work really well as the flagship demonstration that that
+
+01:27:26.840 --> 01:27:37.840
+transaction is great for immunization because see we produce antibodies. Right. I don't have enough evidence to make that claim as as being true.
+
+01:27:37.840 --> 01:27:49.840
+But I do have enough evidence to make the claim. I think that that RNA viruses cannot pandemic but they can make enough RNA virus to cause a pandemic.
+
+01:27:50.840 --> 01:28:02.840
+And that's really the difference. I have a good idea how just have your natural immune system take care of all this. Exactly. It's what I've been saying from the very beginning.
+
+01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:12.840
+Right. We don't have to worry about that. And when you get a guy like Bill Gates saying, well, we want to depopulate the world and everybody's got to be vaccinated. Well, we'll start with you, Bill.
+
+01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:27.840
+You go first. You be the first taker on all this, you know, because I think eating properly, you know, rolling the dice with eating properly exercising and laying off processed food is a good start, I think.
+
+01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:44.840
+I agree. I think that's part of the, again, you know, it's across all aspects of our culture at this stage, but we have, we have, we don't take responsibility for, for understanding anymore as adults.
+
+01:28:44.840 --> 01:28:50.840
+We all kind of have checked out and said that the experts know better than us.
+
+01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:59.840
+More than anything in the United States, the way that we eat, the way that we think about our health is just so inverted.
+
+01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:10.840
+And we all want to pill to fix what ails us when in reality, we just need to put better food in and we'll get better results out. We need to exercise more. I mean, some people.
+
+01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:21.840
+And you might be one of these people. And I'm not an ex, I'm not a master of this. I'm just not, I'm not as bad as other people.
+
+01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:35.840
+There are people who have not exercised since high school. They have not even walked a long ways since high school. And then when they can't breathe very well, or they have stomach problems.
+
+01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:51.840
+The first thing they want is a medicine or a simple solution when in reality, if you don't move regularly, you will be unhealthy. If you don't eat and drink good things, you are going to be unhealthy.
+
+01:29:51.840 --> 01:30:07.840
+If you inhale auto fumes all day, you're going to be unhealthy. If you smoke a pack of cigarettes a day, that is going to contribute to a whole host of ways that you are not optimal.
+
+01:30:07.840 --> 01:30:24.840
+And there's no juice or supplement or magic, you know, powder packet that you can mix in your water bottle. And that's going to compensate for the 40 years of lack of exercise and nutrients.
+
+01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:30.840
+Yeah, listen, I go to the gym five days a week consistently for the last 40 years.
+
+01:30:30.840 --> 01:30:46.840
+Yeah, I don't, I don't want to say I'm a vegetarian, but I'm close to not so much vegetarian. I'm a pescatarian, but I stick primarily to fresh, fresh vegetables, fresh fruits, soups, things like that.
+
+01:30:46.840 --> 01:30:52.840
+And then twice from Italy, we were just having the conversation. She just moved here four years ago.
+
+01:30:52.840 --> 01:31:05.840
+And we're, you probably are familiar with this, what I'm about to tell you, but we're discussing the, we were talking about the potato chip aisle and the grocery stores and, and some of the shopping carts that we see, especially during COVID.
+
+01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:15.840
+You know, the potato chip aisle is like this long aisle that's like, you just goes on forever. And she was telling me in Italy, it's probably like maybe the size of my desk.
+
+01:31:15.840 --> 01:31:29.840
+And there's just a little section where they sell potato chips in Italy and all the grocery stores. So that just tells you where we're at here in the United States, right? Absolutely, it does. I mean, it's.
+
+01:31:30.840 --> 01:31:38.840
+A good friend of mine, Greg Glassman once said that if you have to, if you have to open a box or a bag to eat, then you're probably not really eating.
+
+01:31:38.840 --> 01:31:44.840
+That's right. And that's really where we are in America. Most people are eating out of a box in a bag every day.
+
+01:31:44.840 --> 01:31:47.840
+Yeah. Yeah. I'm 60 years old, by the way.
+
+01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:51.840
+Are you really? Yeah. Wow.
+
+01:31:51.840 --> 01:31:56.840
+Okay. So you and I both have some secret going on because everybody's always surprised. I'm 51.
+
+01:31:57.840 --> 01:32:02.840
+Yeah, you look great. I thought you were in your 40s, early 40s.
+
+01:32:02.840 --> 01:32:15.840
+But it's been amazing to have you on the medical truth podcast. I'd like to continue to have you update and come on periodically as well with the release of the book with Robert F Kennedy.
+
+01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:19.840
+Oh, I would love it. That would be great. I would love it. That would be really fun.
+
+01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:29.840
+Yeah. Yeah. And I'll see you get, get you a get you on sub stack too as well. I, you know, I know Paul.
+
+01:32:29.840 --> 01:32:34.840
+Dr. Paul Alexander. In fact, I actually pulled up this particular article.
+
+01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:38.840
+You gave me a couple of plugs this week. It was.
+
+01:32:38.840 --> 01:32:41.840
+Yeah, this is what got my little embarrassed actually.
+
+01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:44.840
+This has got my attention right here.
+
+01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:49.840
+JJ Kui lives inside Robert Malone's head.
+
+01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:56.840
+I love it. Kui owns Malone and Malone is not ever will never debate him on a talk or talk with him.
+
+01:32:56.840 --> 01:33:02.840
+This is a reason for that. I openly challenge him alone here. Put your testicles on the table.
+
+01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:12.840
+Yeah, it's it's it's he goes over the top a lot, but actually the article is really good and it covers my work and the work of my friend.
+
+01:33:12.840 --> 01:33:17.840
+Mark Hughes, a tonic Mark Gulak in in Boston, Massachusetts.
+
+01:33:17.840 --> 01:33:27.840
+And he's been a great friend and he's a really skilled historian who started earlier than I did with regard to to really keeping track of this.
+
+01:33:27.840 --> 01:33:40.840
+And he's got a really good archive and together him and I have been just trying to run down the stories of these these new heroes and try to figure out which one of them is, you know, really a good guy and which one might not be.
+
+01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:53.840
+As as open minded as I am, I have to say that I've had so many incongruent interactions with Robert Malone that I have to assume that his he's got ulterior motives.
+
+01:33:53.840 --> 01:34:07.840
+I have to agree with you on that. You know, and I the first time I saw him was on Tucker Carlson and this was like maybe back in what 21 21 22 early 22.
+
+01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:17.840
+I think 21 was probably when he was first on Tucker. But yeah, yeah, but you know, my theory on that too is that there's a lot of people that are on the hook.
+
+01:34:17.840 --> 01:34:22.840
+And I even include President Trump on this as well. He was at fault as well.
+
+01:34:22.840 --> 01:34:35.840
+The only person, the true person that really stood up to a lot of this was Robert F Kennedy is President Trump kept pushing the vaccine kept pushing the vaccine and to this day still does it.
+
+01:34:35.840 --> 01:34:47.840
+In fact, I just posted something on sub stack as to why my question was in the article that I wrote was why this Donald President Trump still pushed the vaccine. Right.
+
+01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:56.840
+You know, and I just don't think any one particular politician or anybody is going to save us in this situation. And I say it.
+
+01:34:56.840 --> 01:34:58.840
+Time and time again.
+
+01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:06.840
+That's really the most important thing to say. No one will no one politician is going to save us. And we don't want to live in a country where we need a politician like that to save us.
+
+01:35:06.840 --> 01:35:10.840
+No, no, and I keep saying this to people.
+
+01:35:10.840 --> 01:35:18.840
+Listen, we have the God given right not to take this vaccine into do it. It's our decision. It's our body. It's our choice.
+
+01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:27.840
+And we have to stand up to that. We have to stand up to that. We're the ones where the power is in the people. There's more of us than there are them.
+
+01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:31.840
+Okay, whoever them are and we all know are starting to know who them are.
+
+01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:44.840
+And, you know, as time goes on, the dark is going to be overshadowed by the light for sure. It's just a matter of time and it's happening. And there's people like you that are very courageous that are coming forward.
+
+01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:53.840
+And I really appreciate your work and I'm going to continue to put your work out there for sure. You got a fan now. Thanks very much, James. I'm really happy.
+
+01:35:53.840 --> 01:36:06.840
+You know, it's been a long lonely place. I'm sure you felt alone too. I mean, it really, even when you have these podcasts, it feels like you're in a wilderness all by yourself. So, yeah, I'm really happy to make another connection like this.
+
+01:36:06.840 --> 01:36:16.840
+Absolutely. You got you have definitely. So, like I said, I'll have you come on again. Your website is go ahead. You want to share that with you.
+
+01:36:16.840 --> 01:36:33.840
+It's Giga on biological.com. It's kind of hard to spell, but you'll learn it. And I'm also Giga on biological on Twitch, which is a it's a weird streaming platform for gamers and for weirdos, but it also keeps me nicely hidden.
+
+01:36:33.840 --> 01:36:40.840
+I also try to post. I'm trying to get into the habit of reposting on rumble, but that hasn't really started yet.
+
+01:36:40.840 --> 01:36:53.840
+And I actually, in addition to being on your podcast was just recently on a podcast with Ahmed Malik. I think you might also have been aware of him. He's very much like you.
+
+01:36:53.840 --> 01:37:07.840
+And so, maybe my message is finally catching on. I'm going to be around in more places, but right now, Giga on biological is where I stream on Twitch and I'm doing it every night for about, I don't know, for 35 nights in a row.
+
+01:37:07.840 --> 01:37:21.840
+So far, I'm going to try and keep it up for a few hundred. So, it's worth checking because I'll be there almost every day. And this includes today. So, yeah, I think it's just steady pressure. So people like you have to keep going.
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+01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:29.840
+You have to keep sharing each other's work. And as we keep pushing with steady pressure, I think this thing will keep cracking.
+
+01:37:29.840 --> 01:37:36.840
+Well, definitely, definitely, definitely. Thank you so much for coming on to the podcast. I really appreciate Dr. Cooey.
+
+01:37:36.840 --> 01:37:38.840
+You're very welcome. It was nice meeting you, sir.
+
+01:37:38.840 --> 01:37:40.840
+You too, sir. Thanks.
+
+01:37:41.840 --> 01:37:54.840
+So, what I like to do, because you're on the right track, and you got to get on sub stack, get yourself set up with sub stack, get yourself an account on sub stack as well.
+
+01:37:54.840 --> 01:38:00.840
+Because you'll start getting a lot of traction on there. I'm getting people that are signing on every day.
+
+01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:06.840
+Yeah, it's a great. That's what you're doing. You just post your video there or what?
+
+01:38:06.840 --> 01:38:25.840
+I post the videos. I started to post memes. I started to post articles. So, I'm becoming very involved with that. And then, you know, because what happens is as you start cross promoting people through sub stack, it's a great, great platform because it's almost like a place where
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+01:38:25.840 --> 01:38:34.840
+it's free and it's like where you could post a podcast. I guess the reason why I haven't started with sub stack is because I'm a terribly slow writer.
+
+01:38:34.840 --> 01:38:41.840
+And so, maybe if I did just post the video with a little caption, that might work already, maybe.
+
+01:38:41.840 --> 01:38:51.840
+Yeah, you know, Dr. Alexander, I'm not sure how or why he does it, but he really, I don't know if he's, I'm not sure, I probably shouldn't say.
+
+01:38:51.840 --> 01:39:05.840
+Oh, who or how he's writing, but he writes short memes, but he puts out a lot too almost too much. It's like too too much. It's like he just riddles you with a lot of stuff, you know, and it's all over the place.
+
+01:39:06.840 --> 01:39:19.840
+It's a politics. It's this. It's that I stick to primarily medical, you know, mostly. I've talked a lot with Paul Alexander. If you want my honest opinion.
+
+01:39:19.840 --> 01:39:31.840
+I think Paul Alexander, because of the role that he had in the Trump administration has seen the absolute inside of the beast. Right. So, he needs to.
+
+01:39:31.840 --> 01:39:47.840
+In a way that is so visible that no one can touch him. And I do think he's scared. I do think that he is respectful of the monster in a way that few people are because the few people have seen it like him.
+
+01:39:47.840 --> 01:40:05.840
+We've talked a number of times where I've had the sense that that he experiences real trepidation as to what to do next. And he is very like you and I very concerned about the future of our countries and our kids future because these people are playing for all the marbles.
+
+01:40:05.840 --> 01:40:16.840
+And he knows that. Yeah. Yeah. And so I think that's what sometimes why he makes these over the top posts because, you know, once he got to lose at this stage, this is for all the marbles.
+
+01:40:16.840 --> 01:40:29.840
+If we get somebody's attention, that's what we need. We need to convert every single person we can convert. Right. And I gotta honestly tell you, I think both the Democrats and the Republicans are in on this together.
+
+01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:35.840
+Absolutely. They are. Are you kidding me? Yeah. I tell people, take the politics out of this. Absolutely.
+
+01:40:36.840 --> 01:40:47.840
+Take all the politics out of it because both the Democrats and Republicans are in. There's only maybe I could probably count on half of a hand. How many people are really truly legitimate in politics.
+
+01:40:47.840 --> 01:41:03.840
+I don't know. We lost somebody from Utah today in a plane crash that was just converted to our team. Who's that Utah Senator or representative that was fully on board with mandating the vaccine.
+
+01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:10.840
+And now had just come out and decided it was ridiculous. And then they, his plane crashed.
+
+01:41:10.840 --> 01:41:18.840
+I'm telling you, you're coming out at the right time with your message. I've been doing this. It'll be a year in January.
+
+01:41:18.840 --> 01:41:32.840
+I interviewed Dr. Peter Bragan. I'm sure you're familiar with him. He's a very good man. What I will do is I will try to get you involved with more podcasting. If you don't mind.
+
+01:41:32.840 --> 01:41:45.840
+I don't mind at all. Please spread the word. Help me. Yeah, I'm going to because there's some really good people out there. The dragons are really good people. They were actually being sued by Malone.
+
+01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:56.840
+So I think that particular lawsuit's going to be pretty much thrown out of court because the last lawsuit that he had against.
+
+01:41:56.840 --> 01:42:08.840
+Oh gosh, I can't remember who he had a lawsuit against, but it was very similar to what he was suing the dragons for. He was suing the dragons over this thing with this mask formation psychosis.
+
+01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:22.840
+Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think they're going to throw that out. But you don't go suing an 85 year old man who's a pioneer in psychiatry who pretty much I mean he is telling the truth.
+
+01:42:22.840 --> 01:42:29.840
+You know, yeah, I mean to be to be devil's advocate, though, just to be a creep.
+
+01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:36.840
+Just to be a creep. And I'm not saying the dragons are bad, but this book doesn't challenge the narrative at all.
+
+01:42:36.840 --> 01:42:45.840
+It doesn't does it? No. Tell me about that. And so they think that there was a virus released and that it went around the world and it was a bio weapon and they lied about it.
+
+01:42:45.840 --> 01:43:04.840
+And so by Robert Malone suing them, he's actually selling this book, which doesn't really work against the narrative. Now, if the Breggans were to progress in their understanding of the pandemic and realize that the protocols were used to create this narrative
+
+01:43:05.840 --> 01:43:31.840
+and corrected it, I would be, I would be overjoyed. But I'm afraid right now, Malone seeing our Malone's runners, let's say, or controllers or handlers seeing this book as being non threatening realize that a great way to create a controlled opposition would be to sue this, this, these authors right here.
+
+01:43:31.840 --> 01:43:38.840
+What book is that? This is the Breggans book. We are the prey. Oh, okay, that is the we are the prey. Okay. I just didn't recognize it.
+
+01:43:38.840 --> 01:43:44.840
+I'm not saying the Breggans did anything wrong by writing that book because when that book came out, that's what I thought too.
+
+01:43:44.840 --> 01:43:56.840
+But I'm saying that Robert Malone suing them is not promoting anything that he's afraid of promoting. And in fact, it's promoting exactly what he wants promoted, which is the narrative of a bio weapon.
+
+01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:07.840
+Yeah. Yeah. And so you believe that there was no virus then? No, I don't, I don't say that at all. What I think is, is that there is a conflation of the background signal.
+
+01:44:07.840 --> 01:44:22.840
+And so it would be like telling everybody that that I've tried to come up with the right, the right analogy here. And the best one I always have is something to do with automobiles.
+
+01:44:22.840 --> 01:44:37.840
+First, you have to convince everybody that before 2020, there were no cars on the planet. And then once you convince them of that, you can say that a new thing called automobiles is spreading around the world.
+
+01:44:37.840 --> 01:44:46.840
+And the way, the way that you test for it is you go in your garage, you look for gasoline and you look for round rubber things.
+
+01:44:47.840 --> 01:44:57.840
+And so everybody went down to their garage that lined up and they said, wow, I've got one too. But I didn't know I had one. Oh yeah, but they're asymptomatic. It doesn't mean that you know you had it.
+
+01:44:57.840 --> 01:45:10.840
+And as we tested, it turns out that there were automobiles all around the world. Right. And when people came to the hospital, a lot of people came to the hospital in automobiles.
+
+01:45:10.840 --> 01:45:21.840
+Oh my gosh, everybody that comes to the hospital in an automobile should not be given antibiotics, but instead should be put on a ventilator and given remdesivir.
+
+01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:30.840
+Now you have a pandemic and it has nothing to do with a virus. It had to do with automobiles. And they did the same thing, but they did it with a PCR test.
+
+01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:41.840
+And if they had used that PCR test in 2019 and had 25,000 people drive up in their cars to take the test, they would have got the exact same numbers.
+
+01:45:41.840 --> 01:45:56.840
+And that's your answer. Because they would have used a generic pan coronavirus primer set to look for RNA signals that are everywhere and claimed that was a very specific signal for a new thing.
+
+01:45:57.840 --> 01:46:09.840
+Yeah, that's how that's the school of thought that Dr. Rastnik is from from as well. He doesn't believe that this was truly circulating because he did a lot of the work back in the 80s.
+
+01:46:09.840 --> 01:46:21.840
+Exactly. It's the same exact thing. They can put this sequence wherever they want because they can make lots of it. But wherever they put it, it doesn't start flying around the world.
+
+01:46:22.840 --> 01:46:33.840
+The better example might be, oh, I spilled blue paint on my sidewalk outside. And that's the reason why all the houses in Pittsburgh are turning blue.
+
+01:46:33.840 --> 01:46:45.840
+Like, no, that's not how paint works. But if I got enough paint and I went around Pittsburgh with a paint sprayer, I could make all the houses in Pittsburgh start to turn blue.
+
+01:46:45.840 --> 01:46:54.840
+Right. And that's exactly how they could get a coronavirus sequence to show up in New York and Wuhan and Iran and Italy is they just put it there.
+
+01:46:54.840 --> 01:47:06.840
+Right. Right. Well, I mean, like I said, in 2003, when I had the medical house call practice, we encountered the COVID with SARS sudden acute respiratory syndrome.
+
+01:47:06.840 --> 01:47:14.840
+And it happened to be the strain that particular flu season. In fact, it ran into three and four, those two years, the falls of those years.
+
+01:47:14.840 --> 01:47:21.840
+And it was pretty severe. I mean, it was severe, but it wasn't severe where they had it shut down businesses and quarantine people.
+
+01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:32.840
+But it was a bad flu season because, like I said, I can remember getting that flu and I don't get the flu very often very, very rarely. And if I do, I shake it within a day.
+
+01:47:32.840 --> 01:47:46.840
+But, you know, again, like you said, they built this narrative around this, this virus and this vaccine for the vaccine. I think they created the narrative for the vaccine. Absolutely.
+
+01:47:46.840 --> 01:48:05.840
+Instead of the vaccine for the narrative. And that's why I speculate that it could be so bad is that the virus sequence was known in advance to be appropriate to use as a transfection agent to cause antibodies to show up.
+
+01:48:05.840 --> 01:48:06.840
+Yeah.
+
+01:48:06.840 --> 01:48:14.840
+I don't have any evidence for it, but it makes a lot of sense. If this was a plan, then they would have definitely made sure that that aspect of the plan was foolproof.
+
+01:48:14.840 --> 01:48:26.840
+I mean, I don't think it's a bad thing if you got COVID. I said it from the very beginning to family. I said, we're all going to get it at some point. We're all going to contract it and our body's going to fight it off in different ways.
+
+01:48:26.840 --> 01:48:39.840
+I mean, we've been we've been led to believe, James, as you well know, that that measles is something that we just could never tolerate. And therefore we have to have a vaccine. But in reality, I remembered.
+
+01:48:39.840 --> 01:48:49.840
+And I found the clip. They had a Brady Bunch episode where they had a had a had a had a chalkboard with all the kids on it and what they'd had.
+
+01:48:49.840 --> 01:48:58.840
+And the measles was going through the house. And nobody was panicking. They were even joking about the fact that one of them might be faking it.
+
+01:48:58.840 --> 01:49:15.840
+And and and the thing about that that bothers me the most is that when measles was deadly, we weren't exactly as sophisticated as we are now with our public health and our medicine. I mean, we were significantly less sophisticated.
+
+01:49:16.840 --> 01:49:26.840
+And so when kids used to go deaf from measles in extreme situations, my guess is is that if we treated it appropriately now that wouldn't happen nearly as often.
+
+01:49:26.840 --> 01:49:33.840
+And the same goes with deaths. I just don't think that those numbers are realistic.
+
+01:49:33.840 --> 01:49:39.840
+And their only motivation for selling those numbers is to sell the effectiveness of the vaccine.
+
+01:49:39.840 --> 01:49:55.840
+Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Some advice to you. Stay on point with your content because you got phenomenal content. You're coming from a great place with a phenomenal background to be a very impactful influencer.
+
+01:49:55.840 --> 01:50:00.840
+So just keep yourself kind of, you know, tight.
+
+01:50:00.840 --> 01:50:12.840
+I love that you say that because we got a little off topic today and I don't like to speculate too much about politics and stuff. I'm really a biologist. That's where my wheel. Well, that's, yeah, we never really mentioned politics at all hardly in our conversation.
+
+01:50:12.840 --> 01:50:26.840
+It was mostly biology and the virus. And that's what I wanted to do is I was looking for, that's why I was telling you to be wonderful to have you on and Dr. Judy Mike of it's in Dr. Rassnik on it.
+
+01:50:26.840 --> 01:50:31.840
+I would love them. I would probably mostly be quiet, but I would love that.
+
+01:50:31.840 --> 01:50:42.840
+No, you could, you could give some good input. I think Judy Judy's kind of, she lost her husband about a year and a half ago, two years ago. So she's kind of pulled the reins back.
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+01:50:42.840 --> 01:50:49.840
+She takes more of a faith based approach to her, her semblance of peace with this whole thing, I think.
+
+01:50:49.840 --> 01:51:02.840
+And I think that's where you got to get to at a point with all this to at some point is, again, it's like, I mixed it up a little I interviewed a physician today a plastic surgeon who believes in ex plants instead of implants.
+
+01:51:02.840 --> 01:51:10.840
+And we talked about the illnesses that are created by and caused by implants. So he does ex plants. That's his specialty.
+
+01:51:10.840 --> 01:51:13.840
+So I kind of break it up a little bit.
+
+01:51:14.840 --> 01:51:23.840
+Yeah, I'm at your service. I just want to get this biology out and continue to teach when I can. So every opportunity, I'll be there.
+
+01:51:23.840 --> 01:51:40.840
+Get yourself on sub stack. If you can't join tonight and get yourself going and load up, maybe load up some videos, but really stay on point with that because it's a phenomenal, phenomenal platform for you to get a lot of followers and I can see you getting a lot of followers.
+
+01:51:40.840 --> 01:51:50.840
+Okay, I appreciate the advice. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. You have an awesome evening. Okay, see you. Thanks. All right. Bye.
+
+01:51:50.840 --> 01:51:59.840
+All right, I don't know if I was supposed to keep that streaming or not, but I did. Thank you very much for listening. I'm sorry I couldn't show you James's video, but that's the way Google works.
+
+01:51:59.840 --> 01:52:07.840
+If I show it there, then it'll infinitely display it on his stream. So I didn't want to do that.
+
+01:52:07.840 --> 01:52:16.840
+I feel the same way as you do in the chat. I'm not really down with Judy Mickovitz because I feel like a lot of what she talks about is kind of snake oil.
+
+01:52:16.840 --> 01:52:19.840
+I'm not sure what really happened with her history.
+
+01:52:19.840 --> 01:52:25.840
+I'm not sure if she's lying or her boss is lying or they're both lying.
+
+01:52:25.840 --> 01:52:33.840
+So it would be an interesting conversation that again I would probably be quiet and humble in, but I might be able to get a couple questions in.
+
+01:52:33.840 --> 01:52:46.840
+And I do think that David Raznik is a much more straight up player in the sense that he's less certain about things and just certain that things are not what they seem, whereas Judy seems to be a little more certain about the truth.
+
+01:52:46.840 --> 01:52:58.840
+And that makes me a little more skeptical of her. But again, at this stage, I just want to get out there as much as I can and exercise my lungs. And so I'm going to accept every invitation that I get up into a point.
+
+01:52:58.840 --> 01:53:06.840
+So anyway, thanks for joining me. I hope you didn't feel like it was a complete waste of your time with only me on the screen.
+
+01:53:06.840 --> 01:53:19.840
+I will not do another stream tonight because it is 801 and I'm tired and I did a couple interviews today and so it's a little unplanned short stream tonight but that's the way it is.
+
+01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:27.840
+I hope you're not disappointed. I will be on, of course, tomorrow because that's what I do a stream every day. So thanks for joining me.
+
+01:53:27.840 --> 01:53:32.840
+I won't do anything fancy out here.
+
+01:53:32.840 --> 01:53:36.840
+Thank you very much guys. I'll see you tomorrow.
+
+01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:56.840
+See you next time.
+
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+People everywhere are starting to listen to him.
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+What happened to the real mummy?
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+Zoynk's the mama mama mama mama mama mama mama mama.
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+I found the mummy.
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+Well, gang, I guess that wraps up the mystery and the mummy, too.
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+Oh, we're here!
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+Why would you understand that you were in the city of the age?
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+Yes, two days ago.
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+What sites did you see?
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+We're here!
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+Think of a bear and a tummy.
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+You don't understand, Mr. Brent.
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+The box of holy weapons, please.
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+Why would you understand?
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+Why would you understand?
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+Why would you understand that you were in the city of the age?
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+Yes, two days ago.
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+What sites did you see?
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+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
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+Welcome to a much wider debate about the possibilities that have brought us here.
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+We understand very well here at Giga Olvajigova.
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+It is a matter of what is perceived to be true.
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+That's when we're trying to break.
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+Because we don't want to mislead the young.
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+We want the young to grow up knowing the truth.
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+We want the young to grow up being protected by the trauma.
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+We don't want our young people to grow up as slaves.
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+And so we are trying to show everyone in our family, everyone in our neighborhood.
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+That the brick wall at the back of the theater is visible.
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+They've already started to move the tables and chairs out of the way.
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+The scenery is being cleared.
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+The lights in the theater might even start to come on pretty soon, so you better get ready.
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+And Jessica Hawke would say that the lights in the theater are already on.
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+I think Mark Housatonic, Mark Koolak would say that the lights in the theater have been on for quite some time.
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+And I'm here to say that at least it took me, you know, if you don't have anything to be ashamed of with me
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+because the lights only, I just only noticed, I only opened my eyes recently.
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+So I got nothing but humbleness coming to this angle.
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+Because I just recently figured out that it's possible that it's all wise.
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+Turtles all the way down as some people might say.
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+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
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+This is Giga Ohm Biological High Resistance Low Noise Information Brief, brought to you by a biologist.
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+It's starting to get a little spooky because I'm in here so often and so regularly.
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+Kind of feels like I never leave this room anymore.
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+But I do think we're moving the ball forward and I do think that this is worthwhile.
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+And so thanks for joining me.
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+This is the never ending daily report about how not to take the bait on TV and social media.
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+And this is the daily report about the Scooby Doo.
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+That is the mystery that we've all been tricked into solving.
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+And thereby sort of kind of brainwashing ourselves into thinking something that is true that is not.
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+And because all that matters is what is perceived to be true, this is very dangerous.
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+Us being misled to solve a mystery by many of these players on this screen.
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+And I think that's really what we've got to be careful of because if we're not careful of it,
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+we will follow one of these people right to our and our grandchildren's doom.
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+And those are pretty big words, you know, but I think it was Rochelle Walensky who said that she was having this feeling of impending doom.
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+And I don't think it's so much impending as intended.
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+And it's all based around this mythology of a magic RNA molecule that when properly ordained with the right sub-sequences,
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+it is capable of circling the globe and doing more damage than a nuclear weapon.
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+And yeah, I just don't think that biology is there to support this narrative.
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+But what is there is a illusion of consensus that it's possible.
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+Just like there is an illusion of consensus that vaccination is just obviously the best medical advancement in the history of modern man.
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+And in reality, I think we're going to find in the coming years a new consensus about the idea that intramuscular injection was about as dumb as some of the more sort of barbaric medical practices that we've been guilty of.
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+Or, you know, we've ventured through on our way to objectively starting to understand our physiology and how we might augment it.
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+And transfection is not immunization.
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+I guess I'm going to turn down the wind outside and then think it was going to get all windy out, but it's not raining on my mic.
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+And so these are two equivalent statements.
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+This one is more pertinent for the pandemic.
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+This one is more pertinent for the coming years and being able to succinctly say it when need be.
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+So this is the ever morphing little people map.
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+You can think of the little tile puzzles that you get at dime stores and you used to get as a kid.
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+Every time you move one of these pieces, then other pieces move around with it.
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+We've been trying to figure out how these people are connected.
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+Why these people would be, let's say, prematurely or almost artificially connected to one another in a way that cannot be spontaneous.
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+There's no reason, for example, for a horse farmer, 20 year plus career vaccine technology broker and consultant to randomly come on the stream of someone who was a fugitive of January 6.
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+And someone who has been posing as a medical doctor since the beginning of the pandemic without a medical degree.
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+So that coupled with the fact that one of his most stalwart supporters of this fake doctor is none of the George Webb, somebody who has enticed a lot of people to believe that he's an intrepid reporter interested in the truth.
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+And meanwhile, George Webb is the, you know, sort of arch nemesis of Robert Malone and Robert Malone, although it's his arch nemesis has no problem sharing all of the websites and media appearances of George Webb with his millions of followers.
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+And it's interesting because, very early on in 2021, there was a guy named, Herod Vundenbosch, who started to come out and talk about the possible generation of variants by a non sterilizing vaccine.
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+And I followed him very closely for a very long time.
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+And it never became really obvious to me until this year that Robert Malone and Herod Vundenbosch had worked together for at least a year at Solve on a flu vaccine in 2008 or 2009.
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+Which is a little, let's say, strange in light of all that we know about how this movement has evolved and all that we know about their opinions about the faith and the faith being that there's a novel virus that we had to do something like shut down the world.
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+That the mRNA probably saved millions of people, even if we rushed it and gain a function is real, the likely source of this pandemic and it even if it wasn't, it surely will be the next one.
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+Interestingly, we made some very good progress when we were able to be present when Denny and Peter met on the virtual set of the the council fire of Giga on biological I hope on Monday we're going to have another council fire.
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+I think some real progress was made here because Denny is is commanded as enough command over his data to adequately explain it and defend it.
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+And I think that Peter had enough pushback legitimate pushback from Denny that he maybe considered the proportionality of how he's attributed his understanding of what happened in 2020 and 2021.
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+And I think it's very exciting if he could come to the realization that some of the assumptions that he has made may be overblown and the role of a virus versus the role of mistreating people who were sick with it.
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+Or sick at all could actually be something that could be a revelation for him. Remember that he came out very early and was involved very early.
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+And so it's possible that he was in enough meetings and had enough phone calls that he could be convinced of the severity of the impending doom much in the same way that somebody who streamed or watched Kevin McCarran McCarran stream in March and April of
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+or February and March of 2020 could have easily come to the conclusion that wow a realistic possibility is 1 billion people dead.
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+If he had if Peter McCullough had other people talking to him very early on at the beginning of the pandemic pushing that as a possibility, maybe even with more credentials than Kevin McCarran if you could imagine,
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+then it's very easy to imagine how Peter McCullough is still trapped within that narrative that they themselves trapped him in.
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+And so he needs a lifeline like everybody else. I don't.
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+I just don't see a bad guy in Peter McCullough. I see some I see someone with who maybe even is afraid at this point and because he knows exactly what we're up against and so he's got as much courage as anyone on this battlefield because he's been here for three years
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+and thank you so much Peter if you're watching this for being on the show. And Denny, thank you very much for for for being here to talk to you.
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+As you know, we also did a show about Phillip Buckholtz who, you know, quite predictably has now blocked me on Twitter.
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+We can think about this pretty succinctly because again, he's a guy who was involved in testing from the very beginning.
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+He has a vested interest in in the narrative as it stands, the existence of a novel virus, the need to test for it, the effectiveness of testing for it.
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+And he came out against the PCR tests as if and his final little caveat was that in the hands of a competent individual PCR is highly accurate.
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+Excuse my language, but no shit Sherlock. That's not the point. The point is that PCR can also be wildly abused as a commercial product in order to make millions of dollars.
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+And I think we're going to find that there's going to be a lawsuit or two in the next couple of years is going to expose the fraud of the PCR.
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+We'll see where this goes, but there's no way that they're going to get away with this. I just can't imagine.
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+But again, this isn't just par for the courts. We are figuring this stuff out. You see, all these people reveal themselves for who they are.
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+If they can't just say you're mistaken or put me on mute.
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+That's what we're dealing with there. They are trying very hard to disconnect from interacting with people who go against the faith.
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+It's very much like if you can imagine a Christian who was told that Jesus is a myth that you might say at some point, well, if that's what you believe, then I won't try to convert you anymore and we'll just agree to disagree.
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+And that's kind of where he is, except he's talking about biology, which should be sort of easy to explain and obvious to debate.
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+But they're not interested in that. Just like Kevin McCarron is not interested in it. They're not really interested in a legitimate discussion about what they really know, like certainty, and what they're estimating, and what they hope is true, and what they have no idea.
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+And this is how they work. They tell you that PCR works great in the hands of a competent person. It's amazingly accurate. That's totally true.
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+But that doesn't in any way explain how 250 different commercial products could have been brought to market under EUA in America to PCR test for the coronavirus.
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+That doesn't say that 250 groups of competent individuals made products. There's nothing about that that's guaranteed just because this guy over here, Philip, tweets that in the competent hands or in competent hands PCR works.
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+In competent hands, an automobile is very safe. In competent hands, a skateboard is like an extension of your body and you can do pirouettes on one wheel.
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+In competent hands, a pistol is a, are you kidding me? And so this is where we are. This is the state of the debate.
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+Where as we've quoted many times in the beginning before, Thomas Sol has said, it's very easy to believe anything you want.
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+If you attribute bad motives to the people that you that have views opposite that you and don't ever think about the views that they have.
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+Of course, I'm butchering that quote, but you know what I mean.
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+And so rather than have a discussion, they just block.
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+And there's just no way you can defend the PCR test from the beginning to the end of the pandemic is being.
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+Objective fair, unmotivated by conflict of interest and un abused by the sister. You just cannot make that argument. That's impossible.
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+And yet in a very succinct, ridiculously over the top certain tweet, he did that. And that's why he blocked me.
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+So you see where we're going here. These people will continue to double down.
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+And so if you want to know what they've done, you've got to constantly remind yourself of where we've been.
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+I keep using this analogy that you're in a really nice luxury, fast car with a great stereo.
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+And whether you're a man or a woman or whatever, the driver is very attractive and a very good storyteller and driving with one hand.
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+And so you're very engrossed by the driver and by the car and the luxury.
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+And because the car is so luxurious, you don't hear anything. You don't feel the road. You're just almost like you're in a starship.
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+And so even though you're going so fast through this city and you think you're seeing the city, actually, you're missing all the garbage.
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+You're missing all the crime. You're missing all the homelessness. You're missing all the graffiti.
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+It's just like this magical wonderland of lights and shining and sparkling.
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+And what looked to be like just people. And it's super cool.
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+And the music's playing and the car smells new and the story is great. And you're engrossed in the ride.
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+And that's what happened at the beginning of the pandemic, except instead of being a luxury automobile, it was stay at home, be afraid, don't know anything.
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+And listen to a bunch of people on TV all say the same thing.
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+And so it's important to go back and look at what they were saying and listen to what they were saying because if they were saying the faith from the very beginning, then we know we were set up.
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+If they were saying we have no idea about this virus, we have no idea whether our immune system can cope with this virus.
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+Then we know they're full of it. If they say that, well, we have to measure everything because maybe antibodies are the most important thing or maybe it's something else.
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+Then we know they're full of it because we knew already for coronavirus and it's for SARS virus and MERS virus that it's all T cells.
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+And that yes, you can do it with antibodies or at least it appears that antibodies can be made.
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+But there were previous studies where mice without B cells can still survive SARS.
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+Are you kidding me? We knew this before the pandemic started.
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+I didn't because I had to learn it in 2020, but by the end of 2020, I damn well knew it.
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+And so if he recites the idea that we have to learn all this stuff, figure all this stuff out and measure it as quick as possible because we know nothing.
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+You'll see where we are.
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+And now listen carefully to the tone of his voice listen carefully to if he is enthusiastically telling you this stuff or if you think is something else going on because for me.
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+I remember this and I haven't seen it yet since I watched it way back when.
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+But I remember this is already triggering me because it was like either you're too calm in this very uncertain and haphazard time or you are full of it and you know that what you're saying is like is like too basic to be real.
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+And so therefore you feel very comfortable saying it's almost like saying well, you know, if you were a.
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+I don't know a professional.
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+You're a professional something I don't know what I'm just trying to think about your professional football player, but you're in a park.
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+And you don't want everybody to know how good of a football player you are so you say yeah I played football in high school you know I kind of like it.
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+And so you set their expectations really low so that no matter what you find it's brilliant no matter what you find you're defining who you are at that moment.
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+This guy who knows all kinds of stuff about immunology works at one of the neatest independent not for profit immunology institutes in the world is going to try and pretend that he has no real idea whether or not we can make memory to this coronavirus how we will do
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+what cell types might be most important and whether or not antibodies are useful and to what target they would be useful for it's ridiculous.
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+But if he does that then every single paper he writes is is gold.
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+If he started out while we expect a B and C and D.
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+Then he it's like you you tell all the Marvel story at once and then you don't have five movies you only have one.
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+So they're all interested in the idea of it being novel because they can all get in on this bonanza of discovery.
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+Using all the same measurements.
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+It's ridiculous way to hear it.
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+Today about these responses in in COVID-19.
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+And yeah, and I'm going to keep it fairly simple for for a broader audience and talk you through it here.
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+This is work done by my group and Alex studies group at the low light Institute for immunology. I assume you can see my screen.
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+Perfectly.
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+So LGI is basically a freestanding we're nonprofit and we're basically a freestanding immunology department on the UCSD campus.
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+And we just recently published this paper and then a talk is through that work.
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+So there are major there's been major knowledge gaps in understanding and unity to to the SARS-CoV-2.
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+And this is resulted in a lot of fear and a lot of worry because of these unknowns.
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+And big question.
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+So I mean, he's preaching the preaching the faith here right now, right? It's the unknowns. We don't know anything. It's a novel virus. It's just like, wow.
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+I mean, everybody's vulnerable. We know nothing.
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+So it's a real it's a real it's caused a lot of fear.
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+He says.
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+He doesn't really sound like he believes it, but that's what he says.
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+I mean, what what choices of words are those? Why you're an immunologist, you're not a government agent or, you know, a bureaucrat.
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+So why in the world would he have this as an introduction, especially at this COVID-19 virtual? Oh, so it was going to thousands of.
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+Oh, okay. Now I get it.
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+I mean, it's just to to SARS-CoV-2.
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+And this is a result. And this is resulted in a lot of fear and a lot of worry because of these unknowns.
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+And big questions have been, you know, how much of an adaptive immune response is there to COVID-19?
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+How long does immunological memory last? And what kind of immunity is important against COVID-19?
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+And these have important implications for the pandemic itself as well as vaccine design.
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+And from a vaccine design perspective,
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+the normal way people approach vaccine development is you,
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+you're largely trying to mimic, you frequently find mimic natural immunity.
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+And so if the human immune system normally deals well with a given pathogen, it's a good candidate for a vaccine.
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+And COVID-19 fits that criteria.
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+It's an acute infection that results in those people suggesting that people make a sufficient and protective adaptive immune response to it.
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+And a question is, what are the components of that immunity? How big are they?
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+And so listen to how crafty that is. He says that if the human immune response is pretty robust,
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+then it's a good candidate for a vaccine, but that's actually totally not true.
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+And that's really bizarre, actually, because if we make a robust immune response or an immune response,
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+which results in acute infection resolving in most humans,
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+that means that our immune response doesn't need augmenting.
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+And that's a really extraordinary, I mean, I don't know what that is,
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+but that's like a real contradiction almost in the same two sentences if you think about it.
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+Because now he's not talking about whether it's good for you to get vaccinated.
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+He's talking about whether it's an easy target. Why is it an easy target?
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+Is it an easy target because everybody's going to live anyway?
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+Is it an easy target because there isn't much disease to measure and so it'll be hard to measure the effectiveness of your vaccine?
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+Could that be something to do with this? Because measles is a set of symptoms that doesn't show up if you are vaccinated with an effective immunization.
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+And I would like to say that better. If you are immunized with an effective immunization methodology,
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+then the symptomology of measles won't show up in your lifetime.
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+That's how it should work in an ideal cartoon.
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+So what he says here is that if it's an illness whose infection and symptomology resolve in the vast majority of humans,
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+then it's a good candidate for vaccines.
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+And how could people potentially apply that to vaccine development?
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+Your adaptive immune system really falls into three general categories, antibodies, helper T-cells, and killer T-cells.
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+So think about the inversion here in case you don't forget about where you've forgotten what we learned already three years ago.
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+It's dendritic cells, T-cells, and then B-cells.
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+And in fact, the T-cells split up and take some of these cytotoxic T-cells back to the infection even as another group of T-cells is looking for B-cells to assist.
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+So it's really, as you can see from the very beginning in May of 2020, there is a concerted effort across the board for these immunology experts to invert the actual immunological response.
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+They are changing the way we think and making sure, sorry, I'm bumping the table,
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+making sure that everybody thinks of antibodies as one of the primary immune responses and seroprevalent antibodies.
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+31:19.000 --> 31:31.000
+Maybe that's not the right way to say it, but antibodies in terms of seroprevalence has being an adequate and reasonable defense against a respiratory virus.
+
+31:31.000 --> 31:50.000
+It's extraordinary, and I know that there are lots of physiological cartoons where circulating antibodies can help with viremia, but nevertheless, just see that we are not teaching anybody useful immunology here.
+
+31:50.000 --> 32:01.000
+And therefore, what is he doing? He is laying down immunomethology. There's no other way to see it. This is promoting the vaccine without even existing it.
+
+32:02.000 --> 32:18.000
+Antibodies are important and almost all currently licensed human vaccines and certainly neutralizing antibodies against COVID-19 reported and infected individuals.
+
+32:19.000 --> 32:28.000
+Helper T cells are critical for antibody responses. You're not going to get any neutralizing antibodies against COVID-19 without the helper T cells.
+
+32:28.000 --> 32:45.000
+And so knowing, are these actually responding? Most people is important. And just relating back to classic SARS, CD4 T cells were shown by Perlman and others that the CD4 T cells can also actually protect independently of antibodies.
+
+32:46.000 --> 33:07.000
+There he said, Perlman and others, and you've looked at immunology lectures from me for already three years where I regularly cite Perlman's early papers from 2002, three, four, and five, where he does various manipulations of mice exposed to a version of SARS or another.
+
+33:07.000 --> 33:20.000
+I don't remember, but I think it is a version of SARS and the mice that have T cells are able to clear mice that have T cells are able to clear the virus.
+
+33:20.000 --> 33:29.000
+And he's able to demonstrate that those T cells are aimed at the end protein and they're aimed at the ORF1A, the open reading frame 1A.
+
+33:30.000 --> 33:38.000
+And so these were already studies that were done when in the early 2000s, we're talking about 20 years ago.
+
+33:38.000 --> 33:44.000
+And Stanley Perlman is one of the experts on the WHO Committee for Coronavirus in the pandemic.
+
+33:45.000 --> 33:53.000
+And Stanley Perlman knows darn well that the, and everybody who works on the immune system should darn well know.
+
+33:53.000 --> 33:59.000
+He just said it backwards, where he said you're not going to have any antibodies if you don't have CD4 T helper cells.
+
+33:59.000 --> 34:01.000
+That's true.
+
+34:01.000 --> 34:03.000
+That's very true.
+
+34:03.000 --> 34:05.000
+But then why do you mention the antibodies first?
+
+34:05.000 --> 34:17.000
+You said already in the earlier segment, like five seconds before that patients who have had severe COVID also have antibodies to the virus.
+
+34:17.000 --> 34:27.000
+Then you know that T cells have been activated and they necessarily have not been activated to the same epitopes because you know that's what leak recognition is all about.
+
+34:28.000 --> 34:45.000
+So it's extraordinary that people who know immunology 101 and 201 and 301 are unable to, you know, keep it at the 30,000 foot level without just throwing everything out the window and not really adequately explaining the basics.
+
+34:46.000 --> 34:48.000
+They've inverted this.
+
+34:48.000 --> 35:14.000
+There's no reason for antibodies to be the first thing to talk about in killer T cells to be the last thing to talk about unless you want to obfuscate the fact that previous T cell immunity to conserved regions of conserved proteins in this genome will be present
+
+35:14.000 --> 35:17.000
+in almost everyone alive.
+
+35:17.000 --> 35:24.000
+If their immunology is true, you can't have it both ways.
+
+35:24.000 --> 35:28.000
+Either immunology and virology works the way they say it does.
+
+35:28.000 --> 35:35.000
+And we have previous immunity encoded in T cells, both helper and cytotoxic.
+
+35:36.000 --> 35:45.000
+Or, or, it doesn't work that way and then they have to stop arguing about antibodies as well.
+
+35:45.000 --> 35:47.000
+You can't have it both ways.
+
+35:47.000 --> 36:04.000
+It's really very extraordinary how they are able to get away with this with a whole nation full of people, a world full of people that know the immunology, the illusion of consensus is created just because no one can ask questions and no one will.
+
+36:05.000 --> 36:08.000
+Oops.
+
+36:08.000 --> 36:12.000
+And in SARS mouse.
+
+36:12.000 --> 36:23.000
+And in last, but not least, the killer T cells, you know, antibodies can take care of virus outside of cells, but you really need the killer T cells to take care of virus inside of cells.
+
+36:23.000 --> 36:28.000
+And it's been shown many different ways that the CDA is important in a variety of bio infections.
+
+36:29.000 --> 36:40.000
+And for both of the T cells, there are, there's now an anecdotal publication out of Italy that two people who are a gamma globulinemic.
+
+36:40.000 --> 36:41.000
+Okay.
+
+36:41.000 --> 36:44.000
+So no, no B cells, no ability to make an antibody response.
+
+36:44.000 --> 36:49.000
+Those individuals survived COVID-19 suggesting that T cells.
+
+36:49.000 --> 36:50.000
+There you go.
+
+36:50.000 --> 36:52.000
+So it's not only mice.
+
+36:53.000 --> 36:57.000
+It's a gamma globulin, globulinic.
+
+36:57.000 --> 37:01.000
+A gamma globulinic individuals.
+
+37:01.000 --> 37:03.000
+There are people who can't make.
+
+37:03.000 --> 37:05.000
+I can't make antibodies.
+
+37:05.000 --> 37:07.000
+And they're surviving COVID-19.
+
+37:07.000 --> 37:09.000
+That's pretty strange, isn't it?
+
+37:09.000 --> 37:10.000
+No.
+
+37:14.000 --> 37:15.000
+I couldn't resist.
+
+37:15.000 --> 37:17.000
+That's just crazy.
+
+37:18.000 --> 37:25.000
+A successful and dominant role in protection from this disease, at least in some individuals.
+
+37:25.000 --> 37:35.000
+So we wanted to try and establish a benchmark of measurements of adaptive immune responses.
+
+37:35.000 --> 37:46.000
+And this is harder for T cells than for antibodies because what T cells recognize are epitopes, small peptide epitopes that could come from anywhere within the virus.
+
+37:46.000 --> 37:48.000
+They vary from person to person.
+
+37:48.000 --> 37:55.000
+And of course the assays involved have to use live cells from infected individuals.
+
+37:55.000 --> 38:00.000
+Alex SETI here at LGI, my collaborator.
+
+38:00.000 --> 38:07.000
+He's probably the world expert, the world's top expert on predicting and mapping T cells, epitopes over the years.
+
+38:08.000 --> 38:21.000
+And so we focused on trying to collect appropriate patient samples and get the samples to him to look for epitope specific responses.
+
+38:21.000 --> 38:24.000
+And then we looked at the T cell biology together.
+
+38:24.000 --> 38:33.000
+So for this study as a starting point, we considered several key parameters.
+
+38:33.000 --> 38:39.000
+One was we wanted to measure immune responses in average COVID-19 cases.
+
+38:39.000 --> 38:43.000
+And the average COVID-19 case does not require hospitalization.
+
+38:43.000 --> 38:52.000
+And so we focused on non-hospitalized people who had essentially flu-like symptoms, had self-limiting disease.
+
+38:52.000 --> 38:57.000
+And then we measured their immune response after symptoms were gone.
+
+38:57.000 --> 39:02.000
+We're there memory cells when we look at convalescent cases.
+
+39:02.000 --> 39:09.000
+And we think that's a key benchmark to establish for what a normal immune response looks like to COVID-19.
+
+39:09.000 --> 39:17.000
+Our preference with T cell assays is to start with cytokine agnostic assays because in a new disease like COVID-19,
+
+39:17.000 --> 39:22.000
+it's not clear which cytokine responses may be dominant if at all.
+
+39:22.000 --> 39:31.000
+So being agnostic regarding that gives us a better assessment of what the overall magnitude of the C4 responses are.
+
+39:31.000 --> 39:40.000
+And then third, we wanted to use those predicted epitopes, but really full genome spanning peptide pools so that we could know that we were seeing the full picture,
+
+39:40.000 --> 39:44.000
+and not just some unknown piece of the picture.
+
+39:44.000 --> 39:49.000
+Okay, so with those in mind, we proceeded with the study.
+
+39:50.000 --> 39:59.000
+We started by going about 20 patients who again were non-hospitalized, had COVID-19 disease and resolved.
+
+39:59.000 --> 40:05.000
+All of these individuals were PCR-conterm positive in the acute phase.
+
+40:05.000 --> 40:18.000
+And we saw that they all indeed seroconverted and made anti-RBT IgG responses and the majority made IgM and IgA responses as well.
+
+40:18.000 --> 40:21.000
+In terms of the T cell assays that we...
+
+40:21.000 --> 40:31.000
+I'm not sure if I'm honest with you how specific the IgM and the IgA responses would need to be in order for this signal to be here.
+
+40:31.000 --> 40:42.000
+In other words, coronavirus infection in general may raise the antibody levels for this level of specificity depending on how they tested it out.
+
+40:42.000 --> 40:46.000
+How specific is their test for the receptor binding domain?
+
+40:46.000 --> 40:52.000
+I assume it's pretty specific because that's a relatively small region.
+
+40:52.000 --> 40:56.000
+I don't know, this is pretty convincing, right?
+
+40:56.000 --> 41:06.000
+It looks like the negatives are really negative and the people that get COVID are developing this antibody, which is specific for...
+
+41:06.000 --> 41:16.000
+I'm not sure how they do IgM, IgA, IgG, but we could probably look that up.
+
+41:16.000 --> 41:19.000
+I'm sure there's a pretty solid way of doing that.
+
+41:19.000 --> 41:35.000
+So, you know, this seems to be evidence for at least something RNA-wise or something transfection-wise that is causing this signal to show up in these people after they're infected.
+
+41:35.000 --> 41:38.000
+It's curious. I don't know what to say other than it's there. I'm not denying it.
+
+41:38.000 --> 41:41.000
+It's nonsense as well.
+
+41:41.000 --> 41:50.000
+In terms of the T cell assays that we use, a number of labs have started using these approaches of being cytokine agnostic.
+
+41:50.000 --> 41:59.000
+T cells respond to antigen by making a variety of different cytokines, but also by expressing various surface activation markers.
+
+41:59.000 --> 42:04.000
+So, we refer to these as AMSA activation induced marker assays.
+
+42:04.000 --> 42:11.000
+And we found TfH cells are the type of CD4 T cell that are required to help B cells.
+
+42:11.000 --> 42:17.000
+And those T cells are notoriously stingy cytokine producers.
+
+42:17.000 --> 42:28.000
+So, we found, for example, that cytokine assay is 10 to miss 98% of that category of CD4 T cells, and that category of CD4 T cells is essential for antibody responses.
+
+42:28.000 --> 42:34.000
+So, be careful that realize that all of this data is produced from papers before the pandemic.
+
+42:34.000 --> 42:40.000
+So, we're not looking at SARS-CoV-2 responses here. We're looking at other activation responses.
+
+42:40.000 --> 42:48.000
+And he's trying to make the argument that follicular T helper cells are...
+
+42:48.000 --> 42:55.000
+And so, he's looking for vaccine-specific CD4 T cells. So, he's looking at a pertussis vaccine.
+
+42:55.000 --> 43:03.000
+And so, that's an interesting, how do you say it? It's an interesting angle for him to have come from before the pandemic to now.
+
+43:03.000 --> 43:09.000
+So, now you can start to better understand his angle. You can better understand his history.
+
+43:09.000 --> 43:18.000
+You can better understand why he's talked the way he's talked from the very beginning here with this emphasis on why we need to know these unknowns.
+
+43:18.000 --> 43:25.000
+Not because it's a novel virus, but because the vaccine that we're going to make for it is going to need to know this stuff.
+
+43:25.000 --> 43:31.000
+Because since most people live through this, it's a great vaccine candidate.
+
+43:31.000 --> 43:44.000
+This is in May of 2020, when they had shut down schools and made our kids miserable, made our households miserable,
+
+43:44.000 --> 43:48.000
+told us we couldn't see our grandparents.
+
+43:48.000 --> 43:58.000
+They put sand in skate parks and closed playgrounds, all at this time.
+
+43:58.000 --> 44:08.000
+When this guy is saying that there's a new disease that we know nothing about, that we're just learning about, T cells are important.
+
+44:09.000 --> 44:17.000
+And we're going to have a vaccine because, I mean, most people survived, so it's a great candidate.
+
+44:17.000 --> 44:28.000
+I was studying the context of pertussis vaccine that we got a much better picture of what the vaccine elicited responses were with this type of assay.
+
+44:28.000 --> 44:37.000
+We applied that assay to people infected with SARS-CoV-2, and this is what that type of raw data looked like.
+
+44:37.000 --> 44:41.000
+And the summary is really shown here.
+
+44:41.000 --> 44:47.000
+So why not show us the raw data a little bit longer instead of going to the cartoon?
+
+44:47.000 --> 45:00.000
+So these are cells and they're scatter plots, and they're very difficult to read, but the idea would be that anything in this square is going to be significant.
+
+45:00.000 --> 45:08.000
+So as there are more that are moving into the square here that's drawn with these little lines here, these are the ones that are OK.
+
+45:08.000 --> 45:14.000
+They're really activated, CD137, you see?
+
+45:14.000 --> 45:24.000
+So the assay is supposed to show CD4 cells that are being activated by a recent exposure to an infection.
+
+45:24.000 --> 45:28.000
+And the activation, there's two markers here that they're looking at.
+
+45:28.000 --> 45:33.000
+It's not super complicated, but how many T cells do they have that are not activated?
+
+45:33.000 --> 45:39.000
+You've got to think very carefully about what this assay can and can't tell us as he goes to the cartoon.
+
+45:39.000 --> 45:43.000
+And this is what that type of raw data looked like.
+
+45:43.000 --> 45:46.000
+And that's not raw data.
+
+45:46.000 --> 45:50.000
+This is already summary data and measurements, right?
+
+45:50.000 --> 45:54.000
+This is not the raw data. I don't know why they say that.
+
+45:54.000 --> 45:57.000
+The summary is really shown here.
+
+45:57.000 --> 46:00.000
+If it was a summary, there would be numbers, but there's no summary.
+
+46:00.000 --> 46:04.000
+It's like 100% and 70% really.
+
+46:04.000 --> 46:05.000
+What did you have?
+
+46:05.000 --> 46:09.000
+N equals 20? Like what's going on here?
+
+46:09.000 --> 46:19.000
+That and 100% of people we saw IgG, 80% IgA, and 100% of the people had virus-specific CD4 T cell responses.
+
+46:19.000 --> 46:24.000
+And 70% at the technical CD8 T cell responses in the convalescence phase.
+
+46:24.000 --> 46:28.000
+But they didn't show. I don't think specific responses.
+
+46:28.000 --> 46:32.000
+We showed general activation markers.
+
+46:32.000 --> 46:40.000
+So he just said that there were specific T cell responses, but were there?
+
+46:40.000 --> 46:48.000
+No, see, he's doing this activation marker thing.
+
+46:48.000 --> 46:52.000
+There's no, yes, I understand that they were exposed to COVID-19,
+
+46:52.000 --> 46:59.000
+but it doesn't show that this response is specific for an epitope in COVID-19.
+
+46:59.000 --> 47:01.000
+It doesn't show that at all.
+
+47:01.000 --> 47:08.000
+So he completely said that incorrectly. He should have said that and we showed that T cells are activated after.
+
+47:08.000 --> 47:13.000
+But he can't say that they're specific for the virus. That's ridiculous. Listen.
+
+47:13.000 --> 47:27.000
+And the summary is really shown here that 100% of people we saw IgG, 80% IgA, and 100% of the people had virus-specific CD4 T cell response.
+
+47:27.000 --> 47:30.000
+Notice that he doesn't mention IgM. Why doesn't he mention IgM?
+
+47:30.000 --> 47:38.000
+Because if he's really making the argument that it was IgM, then the IgM should have converted to IgG.
+
+47:38.000 --> 47:42.000
+Because that's how that class switching works.
+
+47:42.000 --> 47:47.000
+But he's not making that argument. He's afraid to make that argument because if IgG comes up first,
+
+47:47.000 --> 47:51.000
+once the answer, ladies and gentlemen, it's a memory response.
+
+47:51.000 --> 47:55.000
+And that's what he doesn't want you to think and doesn't want you to realize.
+
+47:55.000 --> 48:03.000
+And once we get that paper from Japan, it clearly looks at the time course of infection.
+
+48:03.000 --> 48:12.000
+And the rise phase of the antibodies that are present in circulation, the rise phase that hits first is IgG,
+
+48:12.000 --> 48:14.000
+which means it's a memory response.
+
+48:14.000 --> 48:23.000
+And that's why he's not talking about Figure 1, which he showed us earlier, where there was IgM and IgA and IgG.
+
+48:23.000 --> 48:29.000
+He can kind of make the story here with IgA and ignore the IgM. But why is he doing that?
+
+48:29.000 --> 48:39.000
+Because if he doesn't tell you that the IgM to IgG was a class switch, temporarily separate from one another,
+
+48:39.000 --> 48:45.000
+he's telling you that the IgG came up at the same time, which makes it a memory response.
+
+48:45.000 --> 48:52.000
+That means overlapping memory with previous viruses, previous proteins.
+
+48:53.000 --> 49:00.000
+It can even be just a previous glycoproteins for which that antibody is sufficiently specific.
+
+49:00.000 --> 49:08.000
+It doesn't need to be hyper specific for the receptor binding domain of one virus in order to work.
+
+49:08.000 --> 49:14.000
+Can you imagine the fact that the more general the wrench is, the more useful the tool is?
+
+49:15.000 --> 49:22.000
+So your immune system is more likely to make an antibody that fits a lot of epitopes that are related to the same general epitope
+
+49:22.000 --> 49:25.000
+than it would to try to make a perfect fit for one.
+
+49:28.000 --> 49:34.000
+They have pruned our imagination into almost unrecognizable.
+
+49:34.000 --> 49:39.000
+It's just disturbing.
+
+49:39.000 --> 49:48.000
+If we just thought about the sacred biology, the point at which the complicated part starts
+
+49:48.000 --> 49:56.000
+and imagine it as complicated rather than stupid, simple, dumb, simple, then we would get somewhere.
+
+49:57.000 --> 50:04.000
+This is the kind of limited imagination on purpose that we have been subjected to for three years.
+
+50:04.000 --> 50:14.000
+This is not someone trying to share with you the beauty and complexity of the pattern integrity that is you.
+
+50:14.000 --> 50:20.000
+This is a person that's trying to share with you their dumb, simple explanation and sales pitch
+
+50:21.000 --> 50:28.000
+for why a vaccine is a pretty good idea for a disease that the vast majority of people survive.
+
+50:28.000 --> 50:35.000
+And usually don't even notice that they've had it according to this mythology.
+
+50:35.000 --> 50:47.000
+This is May 2020 when they were putting sand in skate parks when they were closing parks and playgrounds
+
+50:47.000 --> 50:51.000
+when they were telling people to wear masks outside.
+
+50:53.000 --> 50:58.000
+Ladies and gentlemen, do you see it, what they did to us, they lied.
+
+50:58.000 --> 51:03.000
+They got a lot of people to lie about this and they told them it was a national security priority.
+
+51:03.000 --> 51:10.000
+And so even if we're a little exaggerating, there's no room for skepticism.
+
+51:10.000 --> 51:16.000
+Because if we have skepticism, we could lose the plot.
+
+51:16.000 --> 51:18.000
+Do you understand Shane?
+
+51:18.000 --> 51:25.000
+If you can't come to and bring this to bear, then we're going to find somebody else who can.
+
+51:25.000 --> 51:28.000
+But we need people on board, Shane.
+
+51:28.000 --> 51:30.000
+Do you understand?
+
+51:30.000 --> 51:33.000
+There can be no dissent.
+
+51:33.000 --> 51:38.000
+We need people fully on board with how this vaccine works.
+
+51:38.000 --> 51:44.000
+We need people fully on board with the correlates of immunity that we're going to sell in six months.
+
+51:44.000 --> 51:49.000
+And so we need you to go out there and sell this model of the immune system.
+
+51:49.000 --> 51:51.000
+I know you like T-cells, man.
+
+51:51.000 --> 51:52.000
+Come on, Shane.
+
+51:52.000 --> 51:53.000
+We know you like T-cells.
+
+51:53.000 --> 51:55.000
+We know that eventually we're going to have to look at them.
+
+51:55.000 --> 51:58.000
+So we got your back.
+
+51:58.000 --> 52:01.000
+But for now we need you to push.
+
+52:01.000 --> 52:03.000
+We don't know what's going on.
+
+52:03.000 --> 52:04.000
+It's novel.
+
+52:04.000 --> 52:05.000
+Everything's novel.
+
+52:05.000 --> 52:07.000
+So we need emergency use authorization.
+
+52:07.000 --> 52:09.000
+We need an emergency declared.
+
+52:09.000 --> 52:10.000
+Of course we did.
+
+52:10.000 --> 52:12.000
+Everything's novel.
+
+52:12.000 --> 52:13.000
+Unknown.
+
+52:14.000 --> 52:19.000
+Shane, if you help us out, you're there was going to be a place on the arc for you.
+
+52:19.000 --> 52:20.000
+It's awesome, man.
+
+52:20.000 --> 52:22.000
+Things I can do it.
+
+52:22.000 --> 52:23.000
+Here's your script.
+
+52:23.000 --> 52:24.000
+Oh, wait.
+
+52:24.000 --> 52:25.000
+I have a script.
+
+52:25.000 --> 52:26.000
+Yep.
+
+52:26.000 --> 52:27.000
+Here's your script.
+
+52:27.000 --> 52:28.000
+Fonts is 70% undetectable.
+
+52:28.000 --> 52:32.000
+CPA T cell responses in the compilescence phase.
+
+52:32.000 --> 52:36.000
+And overall, we consider that good news.
+
+52:36.000 --> 52:41.000
+You know, when this is the first study reporting.
+
+52:41.000 --> 52:51.000
+And it's in specific measurements of antibiotic BCD-4 and CD-8s to this virus as well as on top of that doing so in non-hospitalized patients.
+
+52:51.000 --> 52:57.000
+And generally the outcomes were that it's antiviral immunity that matches expectations.
+
+52:57.000 --> 53:09.000
+This is largely what we expect to see when a person was exposed to a new respiratory viral infection of that sort of magnitude.
+
+53:09.000 --> 53:15.000
+And this knowledge can now be applied to other aspects of the disease.
+
+53:15.000 --> 53:20.000
+In addition to those measurements, the measurements did correlate an important way between them.
+
+53:20.000 --> 53:29.000
+So, for example, the magnitude of the spike specific CD-4 T cell response correlated with the spike RVD domain, IgG.
+
+53:29.000 --> 53:31.000
+We did not show that data.
+
+53:31.000 --> 53:32.000
+I did not see the data.
+
+53:32.000 --> 53:35.000
+I didn't see this data of the spike.
+
+53:35.000 --> 53:36.000
+Where are we out here?
+
+53:36.000 --> 53:38.000
+This is 922.
+
+53:38.000 --> 53:44.000
+I didn't see any spike specific T cell responses shown here.
+
+53:44.000 --> 53:45.000
+This is antibodies.
+
+53:45.000 --> 53:58.000
+Here's the IgM I was talking about that he's a very robust signal, but he didn't say anything about it because if he does, he's got to explain how they can be in time with one another rather than sequential.
+
+53:59.000 --> 54:06.000
+This is the T cell receptor dependent activation induced marker assay.
+
+54:06.000 --> 54:10.000
+And this is to retest this vaccine.
+
+54:10.000 --> 54:14.000
+And then we go here.
+
+54:14.000 --> 54:16.000
+Oh, there's spike.
+
+54:16.000 --> 54:17.000
+Okay.
+
+54:17.000 --> 54:18.000
+All right.
+
+54:18.000 --> 54:21.000
+There was spike in this figure.
+
+54:21.000 --> 54:22.000
+Okay.
+
+54:22.000 --> 54:23.000
+So I'm wrong.
+
+54:23.000 --> 54:24.000
+I don't mind being wrong.
+
+54:24.000 --> 54:26.000
+I was, I guess they tested for something.
+
+54:26.000 --> 54:29.000
+The only question is what health specific was that test, right?
+
+54:29.000 --> 54:33.000
+So anyway, I just wanted to make sure I was not.
+
+54:33.000 --> 54:34.000
+So it is true.
+
+54:34.000 --> 54:35.000
+Okay.
+
+54:35.000 --> 54:41.000
+That the T cell help to the B cells was intact and proper.
+
+54:41.000 --> 54:46.000
+And in fact, that that general topic is a specialty of my lab.
+
+54:46.000 --> 54:54.000
+We helped establish TfH cells as the key type of CD4s that are required for for B cell help.
+
+54:54.000 --> 55:10.000
+And one of the things that's evolved is our understanding of those TfH cells, the T cells that help the antibodies over the past 10 years now from really those cells being being defined as such.
+
+55:10.000 --> 55:12.000
+And these cells are important.
+
+55:12.000 --> 55:27.000
+This is an animation summarizing the advancement in knowledge of this field over the past 10 years that the TfH cells are required very early in infection for interacting with the B cells to stimulate the B cells to proliferate and divide.
+
+55:27.000 --> 55:40.000
+And then they are essential in the dermal centers, which is where the cells undergo mutation and proliferation and evolution to generate high affinity antibodies.
+
+55:40.000 --> 55:50.000
+And so without TfH cells, you don't have dermal centers and generally fail to get high affinity antibodies and memory.
+
+55:50.000 --> 55:56.000
+So, again, in the first past that news is good.
+
+55:56.000 --> 56:03.000
+We then looked at the CD4 responses to every single orph in the genome.
+
+56:03.000 --> 56:09.000
+This requires much larger amounts of blood and a lot of peptide synthesis.
+
+56:09.000 --> 56:16.000
+But Alex said it really felt like this was important, particularly for the first view of the virus to know.
+
+56:16.000 --> 56:26.000
+And so here you have ORF1A. This would be where the poly protein that becomes the RNA dependent RNA polymerase is found.
+
+56:26.000 --> 56:30.000
+Here you have T cells responses to that.
+
+56:30.000 --> 56:38.000
+And many other places along here, ORF1 is right here, ORF1A.
+
+56:38.000 --> 56:43.000
+ORF3 and 4, I'm not sure which ones those are, but that one looks like they're very nicely represented.
+
+56:43.000 --> 56:47.000
+And then here, of course, you have M and N.
+
+56:47.000 --> 56:51.000
+Both of these proteins being fairly conserved across coronaviruses.
+
+56:51.000 --> 56:54.000
+They're both N is bigger than M.
+
+56:54.000 --> 56:57.000
+And the E protein, I thought, would be better represented.
+
+56:57.000 --> 56:58.000
+It's not.
+
+56:58.000 --> 57:05.000
+But the membrane protein and the N protein, which is the protein around which the RNA is coiled.
+
+57:05.000 --> 57:07.000
+And then you have the S protein.
+
+57:07.000 --> 57:09.000
+So that's interesting.
+
+57:09.000 --> 57:13.000
+The question is how specific is that S protein for this coronavirus?
+
+57:13.000 --> 57:19.000
+There's another coronavirus that we have in circulation on Earth that also binds the ACE2 receptor.
+
+57:19.000 --> 57:34.000
+And so that could easily mean that our overlapping T cell memory and B cell memory to that coronavirus and its receptor binding domain could overlap greatly with this one.
+
+57:34.000 --> 57:39.000
+And that means that we have memory B cells that we're ready to go and memory T cells that we're ready to go.
+
+57:39.000 --> 57:47.000
+And that would be also probably explained why this response that they're measuring in their own methodologies is so strong.
+
+57:47.000 --> 57:51.000
+It's not showing you the novel response to a novel coronavirus.
+
+57:51.000 --> 58:03.000
+It's showing you an augmented general response to a general coronavirus and what needs to be cleaned up if a general coronavirus infects your virus.
+
+58:03.000 --> 58:14.000
+You have a lot of this S protein and a lot of this N protein around because of the way that sloppy viral replication takes place.
+
+58:14.000 --> 58:16.000
+It's a lot of protein production.
+
+58:16.000 --> 58:31.000
+And so you make antibodies to those immunogenic proteins that tend to go into circulation just by their abundance relative to the number of subgenomic RNAs that are made for all of those.
+
+58:31.000 --> 58:34.000
+That scales pretty well here.
+
+58:34.000 --> 58:35.000
+So why not?
+
+58:35.000 --> 58:57.000
+If there's an N protein in every coronavirus that anyone has ever found, if there's an S protein in every coronavirus that anyone's ever found, if one of the four endemic coronaviruses binds ACE2, if there's an M protein in every coronavirus that's ever been found, then how do we really know these are specific responses?
+
+58:57.000 --> 58:59.000
+We don't.
+
+58:59.000 --> 59:07.000
+But they're selling that to you because they're working under the assumption that these are novel responses to a novel virus.
+
+59:07.000 --> 59:15.000
+They are not under any obligation to prove to you that these are specific signals and they haven't tried to.
+
+59:15.000 --> 59:18.000
+The control is nothing.
+
+59:18.000 --> 59:24.000
+The control aren't the same proteins from a related coronavirus.
+
+59:24.000 --> 59:26.000
+That wouldn't work.
+
+59:26.000 --> 59:29.000
+Do you see my point?
+
+59:29.000 --> 59:45.000
+You are relying on the diagnosis of the PCR however they chose these people and you are relying on their measurements that they themselves use to define the existence or non-existence of an infection.
+
+59:45.000 --> 59:53.000
+Never knowing if these are not people pre-imposed, this is unexposed and exposed.
+
+59:53.000 --> 59:58.000
+They don't have measurements from these people before and after if they did, then it would be a different graph, right?
+
+59:58.000 --> 01:00:04.000
+Because those with memory responses would be there already.
+
+01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:10.000
+That's how spectacular this is.
+
+01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:19.000
+And so we're not saying that the unexposed aren't unexposed and the COVID-19 people aren't, are exposed, aren't exposed.
+
+01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:26.000
+I'm just suggesting to you that the fidelity of these signals is being exaggerated.
+
+01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:39.000
+The specificity of these signals is being exaggerated and they have never been since the very beginning under any obligation to exhaustively show that a novel coronavirus
+
+01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:42.000
+is circulating from person to person.
+
+01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:50.000
+They've never had to deal with that part of the equation because we started from the very beginning with that assumption
+
+01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:58.000
+because we've all assumed that that's possible since the Simpsons said it's possible and since the Planet of the Apes said it's possible
+
+01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:03.000
+and the X-Files said it's possible.
+
+01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:15.000
+And countless other mythologies have told us that that's possible including 60 minutes in Peter Dasek.
+
+01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:27.000
+And this illusion of consensus created over the last decades in pop culture, media, books and on television and now on social media
+
+01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:39.000
+has made it almost unnecessary for him to show anything of a scientific basis for a novel disease because everybody assumes that a novel disease is a novel disease
+
+01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:43.000
+that's like saying you saw a bird outside of course.
+
+01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:48.000
+How many times have I heard that there's going to be a novel virus? I'm not surprised there's one.
+
+01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:55.000
+That's the conclusion that they're working under right now. That's the conclusion that he's pushing on all of these people
+
+01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:59.000
+and all the people that are watching if they're not objecting. What is it?
+
+01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:02.000
+It's an illusion of consensus.
+
+01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:10.000
+These people in a Zoom meeting of a thousand are less likely to speak up than in a Zoom meeting of five.
+
+01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:17.000
+And so how many of these experts are going to feel an expert enough to go hey Shane, you know this is all great and everything
+
+01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:20.000
+but how do we know that our previous immunity wouldn't have helped us?
+
+01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:34.000
+How do we know that this isn't a memory response or building on a memory response rather than a novel assembly of new memory cells for this novel disease you keep saying about?
+
+01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:42.000
+If there's a thousand people in this from all over the United States, nobody is going to have the guts to speak up.
+
+01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:45.000
+That's exactly what they wanted.
+
+01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:48.000
+An illusion of consensus.
+
+01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:52.000
+What parts of the virus are really being targeted?
+
+01:02:52.000 --> 01:03:01.000
+And at first glance it was a little tough to understand the data and then we reorganized the proteins in order of predicted protein abundance
+
+01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:06.000
+based on coronavirus subgenomic RNA expression.
+
+01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:14.000
+And indeed the proteins that are most highly expressed or predicted to be most highly expressed by the virus were indeed the proteins
+
+01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:22.000
+that are most highly recognized by CD4 T cell responses from COVID-19 patients, including MNS.
+
+01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:29.000
+And largely there's a relationship between predicted protein expression and the magnitude of the CD4 T cell response.
+
+01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:48.000
+So we're not looking at cytotoxic T cells, we have no idea if cytotoxic T cells would be aimed at RF1A, but there are plenty of other papers that we've looked at in past streams that do show that T cells aimed at RF1AB and those proteins
+
+01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:58.000
+and those epitopes are the ones that are activated first and that people that have sufficient quantities of cells with that specificity
+
+01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:02.000
+never have any problem with SARS infection.
+
+01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.000
+And those papers were out there.
+
+01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:11.000
+I don't know if that immunology is right or not, we'd have to go back and look and we will.
+
+01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:18.000
+But I know we covered them and they're on our list and we just have to go back and open those slide decks.
+
+01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:39.000
+But there was without a question, a parallel here in the sense of a purposeful, slow, careful exploration of the cave, rather than a purposeful leading us out of the cave.
+
+01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:44.000
+This is part of the Scooby-Doo.
+
+01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:49.000
+This is the academic side of it in May 27, 2020.
+
+01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:52.000
+This is two of those different viral proteins.
+
+01:04:52.000 --> 01:05:03.000
+This also separately corroborated that the epitope prediction approaches that the SETA lab used to boil this down into a smaller, easier to run assay was also successful.
+
+01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:12.000
+So we detected responses for sure in 21 out of the 25 different proteins.
+
+01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:22.000
+So we felt like all of that was key knowledge and important to get out there for people to get a sense of T&B cell responses to this virus.
+
+01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:40.000
+But a second, really, half of the story has been that when we looked at unexposed healthy individuals, we found SARS-2 reactive T-cells already in 50% of unexposed normal healthy donors.
+
+01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:43.000
+And this was a surprise to us.
+
+01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:49.000
+We checked this data many different ways to convince our sounds.
+
+01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:57.000
+And for us, a key aspect of this was that the blood samples used for these experiments were collected between 2015 and 2018.
+
+01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:09.000
+So there's no way any of these people have seen SARS-2 before, and yet they have memory T-cells capable of recognizing multiple different SARS-2 antigens.
+
+01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:13.000
+And so we predict, but did not directly show.
+
+01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:28.000
+One of the things to keep in mind here with these funny percentages here, it's kind of comical. They can't possibly sample all the T-cells in somebody's body.
+
+01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:36.000
+What percentage of T-cells are they realistically sampling in an experiment like this?
+
+01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:45.000
+And then to talk as though, well, you know, we sampled the T-cells, and the sample that we show lets us know that this, what?
+
+01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:54.000
+Isn't it a random sample of the total T-cells in the body, and so that random sample doesn't need to be representative at all?
+
+01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:57.000
+Why would you expect it to be?
+
+01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:04.000
+Especially when there are resident T-cells around the lungs and there are resident T-cells at all the barriers.
+
+01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:11.000
+The T-cells aren't all waiting in the lymph node for the bat signal.
+
+01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:21.000
+Once T-cells become memory T-cells, they go different places, but they don't necessarily go back to a lymph node to wait.
+
+01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:34.000
+So this is quite extraordinary, because again, although he is admitting that there's previous immunity and he's reluctantly admitting that they don't know how this could be, except obviously we know how it could be.
+
+01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:45.000
+There's homology, RNA viruses aren't some kind of special thing where everything's different and everything's different and all things need a new solution.
+
+01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:49.000
+If that was the case, that would be ridiculous.
+
+01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:57.000
+Aberrant, foreign RNA in DNA is aberrant, foreign RNA in DNA, and the body has many ways of dealing with it.
+
+01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:03.000
+We can bet our butts that there are probably ways that it deals with it we haven't discovered yet.
+
+01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:10.000
+So there's no way for us to get so arrogant as to think that we have some kind of accurate readout of what's going on here.
+
+01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:23.000
+We can make some measurements, but if your model of what these measurements mean doesn't make accurate predictions about measurements in the future, then you're full of crap.
+
+01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:35.000
+And that's what's annoying about this, is that if they included this data as relevant to the previous data, then the previous data would be data minus this.
+
+01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:43.000
+They would look for antibodies too, do you think they're going to look for antibodies in these unexposed normal healthy donors?
+
+01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:46.000
+Do you think they'll look for antibodies that overlap?
+
+01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:51.000
+That these would be, these are presumably memory T cells that people have generated.
+
+01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:56.000
+Of course, they're not going to look for antibodies because they're not there, but the B cells would be.
+
+01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:03.000
+And these T cells, because they're unexposed, the rest of them might be dormant.
+
+01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.000
+The rest of some of them, this is the whole point.
+
+01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:12.000
+These are blood samples collected before the pandemic.
+
+01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:15.000
+Do you see?
+
+01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:32.000
+Overlapping previous immunity from other RNA viruses that use an RNA-dependent RNA polymerase or an N protein or something similar or a fusion protein like the spike or something similar or glycol proteins.
+
+01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:36.000
+We have antibodies and we have T cell memory to those.
+
+01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:43.000
+And there are motifs that are shared across these entities because these mechanisms are conserved.
+
+01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:54.000
+And so the whole point of this exercise was to create the illusion that there was something that could be novel.
+
+01:09:55.000 --> 01:10:00.000
+You know, like there's a brand new story out there that no one's ever told before.
+
+01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:06.000
+And it's got a wizard and an elf and a princess that needs rescuing.
+
+01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:12.000
+And there's this guy in armor who's like a knight and then there's this really bad guy.
+
+01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:21.000
+Well, there is no new story with that premise because there's a million stories like that.
+
+01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:23.000
+No, no, it's a brand new one.
+
+01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:26.000
+You won't have any idea what's going to happen.
+
+01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:30.000
+And you can't imagine the kinds of things that would go on.
+
+01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:40.000
+There's no way you can imagine it because it's a brand new story about castles and wizards and dragons and princesses that need rescuing.
+
+01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:42.000
+It's a brand new story.
+
+01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.000
+Okay, so it has a princess that needs rescuing.
+
+01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.000
+Yes, it has wizards, yes.
+
+01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:49.000
+And as dragons, yes.
+
+01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:51.000
+Interesting.
+
+01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:54.000
+So that it's kind of the same as like these other books, right?
+
+01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:56.000
+No, no, no, it's completely different.
+
+01:10:57.000 --> 01:10:59.000
+We have to make a whole new bookshelf for it.
+
+01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:11.000
+I mean, honestly, I think we're going to need to open a whole new wing of the English department just for this book and everything that comes after it.
+
+01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:16.000
+Because it's going to establish a new genre of fantasy fiction.
+
+01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:25.000
+That's the kind of story they're telling from a biological perspective that this is a new, but we just don't know nothing.
+
+01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:31.000
+I mean, I've been studying the immune system my whole career and this is just nuts.
+
+01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:48.000
+During their previous exposures to common cold coronaviruses and that there's variation in either the magnitude of these responses or which common cold coronaviruses people have seen recently,
+
+01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:56.000
+resulting in variable amounts of pre-existing cross-reactive T sounds capable of recognizing SARS-2.
+
+01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:07.000
+And feeling colleagues in Germany have also seen similar things specifically for S.
+
+01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:14.000
+So there are multiple labs reporting that there are SARS-2 cross-reactive T sounds in unexposed individuals.
+
+01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:17.000
+And I'll give you this as a sense and we can potentially come back to it.
+
+01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:24.000
+This is actually the CDC data of quote unquote, common cold coronavirus circulation in the...
+
+01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:28.000
+I'm going to get it wrong, but I think it's HKU1. I don't know. We've got to look it up.
+
+01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:32.000
+Which one of those do you know the chat? Who's going to win the prize?
+
+01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:38.000
+Which one of those is an ACE2 binding coronavirus?
+
+01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:44.000
+Of course he's not going to show us this for the... this is what?
+
+01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:52.000
+Percent positive from a little tiny study somewhere, but there's people testing positive. It's not people dying.
+
+01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:57.000
+And it's before the pandemic. It's weird, right?
+
+01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:00.000
+In the U.S.
+
+01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:04.000
+Actually 43 in the window is just describing.
+
+01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:13.000
+And you can actually see all four of those viruses are present and they're present in different ways, at different times, in a complicated pattern.
+
+01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:17.000
+This is the team of people who worked on this project.
+
+01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:21.000
+Lots of team work. First author was Alba.
+
+01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:28.000
+One senior author is Alex and myself with a big clinical and technical team.
+
+01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:35.000
+And so I'll open it up to Q&A, but we'd end with, you know, what's next?
+
+01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:49.000
+We're doing our best to work with vaccine developers to apply this knowledge for best practices to measure CD4 and CD8 T cell responses in COVID-19 vaccines.
+
+01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:56.000
+And epitope mapping and measure immune responses in different COVID-19 disease severity.
+
+01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:01.000
+As I said, this was specifically to set a benchmark looking at average cases.
+
+01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:11.000
+Now we in many other labs can make use of this knowledge when looking at hospitalized patients with different disease severity in presentations.
+
+01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:16.000
+We certainly think T cell considerations can be important for vaccine design.
+
+01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:21.000
+We do think that our data is good news for S specific vaccine designs.
+
+01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:24.000
+Almost all of the vaccine candidates out there are basically S only.
+
+01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:33.000
+And so if it turned out in our studies that your average COVID-19 person really didn't make a CD4 T cell response to S or that it looked really strange.
+
+01:14:33.000 --> 01:14:40.000
+That would be very bad news for vaccine strategies, but we saw that S is actually well represented in an average COVID-19 case.
+
+01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:43.000
+And so that's positive news for most of the vaccine strategies.
+
+01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:49.000
+And finally, we think these pre-existing cross-reactive T cells and people are very intriguing.
+
+01:14:49.000 --> 01:14:55.000
+And we think it may be important for vaccine trials to measure pre-existing.
+
+01:14:55.000 --> 01:15:00.000
+Oh, you're about to say something very bad, naughty, naughty.
+
+01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:04.000
+These pre-existing cross-reactive T cells and people are very intriguing.
+
+01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:12.000
+And we think it may be important for vaccine trials to measure pre-existing memory that can cross-reactive T cells too,
+
+01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:17.000
+because it could potentially be a big distinguish of differential outcomes in those trials.
+
+01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:24.000
+A simple speculation would be that if a person already has memory CD4s that can recognize the virus,
+
+01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:31.000
+they would be more likely to make a faster, bigger, better antibody response to a given candidate vaccine.
+
+01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:35.000
+That remains to be determined, but can only be determined if you actually...
+
+01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:42.000
+Actually, if you have previous memory to, let's say, a fusion protein from another coronavirus,
+
+01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:53.000
+there's potential that you will be building on a memory and you will produce a robust IgG response from the very beginning.
+
+01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:58.000
+That's the crazy part about this that they don't really go into, which I find very strange.
+
+01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:06.000
+It really shouldn't be that way unless we're exposed to something we've already seen.
+
+01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:11.000
+And I think that's part of this cover-up, the idea that, you know, these unexposed things aren't specific,
+
+01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:18.000
+but they're specific because coronaviruses can't change everything as best as their cartoon works.
+
+01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:26.000
+If you accept their cartoon virology at face value, then they have to know that.
+
+01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:30.000
+They know that's true, but, you know, that's where we're at.
+
+01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.000
+Measure the pre-existing T cells.
+
+01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:35.000
+Yeah, I will stop there and take questions.
+
+01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:38.000
+Jane, thank you for that wonderful talk.
+
+01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:41.000
+I have two related questions.
+
+01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:45.000
+Did you compare symptomatic and asymptomatic individuals?
+
+01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:55.000
+And do you think the pre-existing T cells have any implication for why so many people are asymptomatic but carriers?
+
+01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:59.000
+Yeah, great questions.
+
+01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:03.000
+And, yeah, and I meant to address both of those directly.
+
+01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:07.000
+So thank you for reminding me of those.
+
+01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:12.000
+All of the cases, all of the patients that we looked at were symptomatic.
+
+01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:21.000
+And my understanding is that it can be a pretty wide range of what people might define as asymptomatic,
+
+01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:28.000
+but these people were PCR confirmed positive and they had symptoms.
+
+01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:38.000
+We're definitely curious to see what would such responses look like in truly asymptomatic individuals.
+
+01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:40.000
+We don't currently have such samples.
+
+01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:48.000
+If anybody has such samples and would like to work with us, that would be great fun or we can provide the peptides for people to do it themselves
+
+01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:56.000
+because I definitely think asymptomatic individuals are very interesting and not well understood.
+
+01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:58.000
+The second question was...
+
+01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:07.000
+I mean, the only way to take that is that this is perpetuating the idea that asymptomatic is a thing.
+
+01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:11.000
+And I think we can be fairly confident that it's not.
+
+01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:19.000
+If asymptomatic is a thing, then it's more like a toxin and not like a virus because then a toxin,
+
+01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:28.000
+you can imagine getting exposed to a sort of sub-toxic level where you have chemical exposure,
+
+01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:33.000
+but you don't show the signs and symptoms of the chemical exposure, that's possible.
+
+01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:39.000
+But from a biological perspective asymptomatic infection,
+
+01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:47.000
+so that means that the virus is replicating, but your body does nothing and then you can spread it that way, that's absolutely absurd.
+
+01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:56.000
+And clearly this is another thing that they wanted to get in there and he says he's apologizing for not upset it.
+
+01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:59.000
+The guy is almost like he's a handler.
+
+01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:04.000
+He's got the guts to ask a question, the question he asks is right on narrative.
+
+01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:06.000
+What about the asymptomatic people?
+
+01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:14.000
+The pre-existing cross-reactive T cells and unexposed individuals and what we're seeing at about 50% of people,
+
+01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:25.000
+I specifically refer to how that might affect responses in vaccine trials, but absolutely the same speculation applies to COVID-19 disease severity itself.
+
+01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:35.000
+I think the simplest speculation would be that memory CD4 T cells aren't going to completely protect an individual,
+
+01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:52.000
+keep them from being infected, but it's I think quite plausible based on animal models of other diseases and the known role in at least the mouse model of memory CD4 is providing protective immunity from SARS,
+
+01:19:52.000 --> 01:20:04.000
+that having cross-reactive memory T cells from other bioinfections would essentially shift the pathogenesis curve for a given person with COVID-19.
+
+01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:10.000
+So instead of getting moderate disease, you maybe now get mild disease or instead of getting a lethal infection,
+
+01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:14.000
+you now get a severe or moderate.
+
+01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:22.000
+I'm always saying that if you have previous T cell immunity that overlaps with other coronaviruses, your whole disease course will shift.
+
+01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:24.000
+Well, no kidding.
+
+01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:26.000
+No kidding.
+
+01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:36.000
+And you didn't expect that as the preeminent immunology expert that you were before the pandemic, you didn't expect that to be the case.
+
+01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:43.000
+Given what we know about the homology between coronaviruses, given what we know about the desire to have a pan-coronavirus PCR test,
+
+01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:56.000
+given what we know about how easy it is to identify a whole bunch of different coronaviruses by the same 350 base pair long segment of the RNA dependent RNA polymerase gene.
+
+01:20:56.000 --> 01:21:02.000
+Are you kidding me?
+
+01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:08.000
+That's how disingenuous this is, ladies and gentlemen, most of these people might not know just because they choose not to.
+
+01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:10.000
+It's a look away kind of thing.
+
+01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:14.000
+I'm going to stay in my lane. I'm going to be my expert in my own little thing.
+
+01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:18.000
+And if this gets out of my control, I got nothing to do with it.
+
+01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:22.000
+And I'm not talking about if the gain of function gets out of control.
+
+01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:34.000
+I'm talking about if the bullshit narrative, if the exaggeration of the science, the exaggeration of the potential for disaster gets out of hand.
+
+01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:39.000
+People are going to help me because it's going to help my research, it's going to help my career.
+
+01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:44.000
+And I'm inserted as an expert from the very beginning.
+
+01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:47.000
+My star has just begun to rise.
+
+01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:58.000
+And I'm not going to have to say this too many more times before the vaccine will come out, and there will be all kinds of other papers for me to do.
+
+01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:13.000
+And so this is a self-fulfilling prophecy in a way. We don't know. Now we know. We don't know. Now we know. I'm the expert because I figured out what we didn't know.
+
+01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:16.000
+It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
+
+01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:23.000
+I think that's a really intriguing and obvious speculation to make.
+
+01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:38.000
+And it is going to be challenging to directly address because you really need to be able to measure such T cells before an infection and after an infection.
+
+01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:47.000
+We're certainly exploring if there are clever ways we can interpret data just from people who have already.
+
+01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:58.000
+And the other thing that goes along with what he just beautifully said, which is you need to measure T cells before and after, just like you need to measure viral prevalence in the world before and after.
+
+01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:06.000
+Otherwise saying there's a pandemic while you roll out a new test is ridiculous.
+
+01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:16.000
+And so in a lot of ways he's admitting in a lot of ways he's talking very unsure and it doesn't feel like he's having a good time here.
+
+01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:23.000
+And that's because he's not really telling the truth. He's following the directives of whoever handled him.
+
+01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:34.000
+He's following the directions of whoever told him that what we need to do for this national security issue is to make sure there is no descending opinions.
+
+01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:45.000
+So keep it general enough. Keep it high level enough so that there's no arguing with you. You're the authority. You're going to establish these things.
+
+01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:55.000
+And so we're not going to question the novelty of the virus. We're just going to be curious about whether previous responses can be helpful in some people.
+
+01:23:55.000 --> 01:24:00.000
+Understand Shane.
+
+01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:04.000
+They had the disease.
+
+01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:10.000
+But otherwise it's going to take some serious longitudinal studies to get at that. But yeah, exactly right.
+
+01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:13.000
+Serious longitudinal studies. There's also the.
+
+01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:17.000
+I'm going to need millions of dollars to do that.
+
+01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:34.000
+The glass has empty speculation that it's possible that some preexisting T cells could be bad predictors. You know, there could be some negative aspect of those T cells that would affect disease progression, which would also be important to understand in the future.
+
+01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:36.000
+And we have a number of questions.
+
+01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:40.000
+Felippo, if you can unmute yourself, you can ask your question.
+
+01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:52.000
+Yeah, Andy, thank you. Just related to this discussion up to now, we've seen, you know, we've in the New York area, there's two aspects of this one we're seeing in the hardest hit areas.
+
+01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:56.000
+Only, you know, if you go measure antibodies randomly.
+
+01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:01.000
+Only about 20% have it's never goes above 20%.
+
+01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:07.000
+So the antibodies in New York City never go above 20%. But I thought there was spread in April.
+
+01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:11.000
+I thought in March and in April, there was this huge.
+
+01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:14.000
+Bomb of of spread.
+
+01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:24.000
+And that this virus was going everywhere. But now they're in May, the end of May in 2020. And when they sample around New York, it's only 20% of people have antibodies.
+
+01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:39.000
+And that's already taking for granted the idea that whatever antibodies they say are specific for this virus are really specific for this virus, which is a huge gigantic assumption without a control.
+
+01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:52.000
+They have no impetus. There's no drive. There's no quest to prove to you. It's novel. If they say it tests for this virus, you believed it.
+
+01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:59.000
+So did I. So does Shane.
+
+01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:08.000
+In this cartoon down here, he's saying common cold viruses question mark. Do you see it?
+
+01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:20.000
+He hasn't done any research to find out what it is about these coronaviruses that makes a homologous immune response detectable in people who aren't exposed to the new one.
+
+01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:28.000
+Why doesn't he want to talk about that? Why doesn't he want to investigate that? Why isn't that one of the things that he says he's going to follow up on?
+
+01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:36.000
+Because if he does that, then you the whole illusion of the novelty of this virus will go away.
+
+01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:46.000
+The whole illusion that their PCR test can separate these epitopes from the new epitopes will go away.
+
+01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:52.000
+Ladies and gentlemen, you can see it, right? It took three years, but we can see it now.
+
+01:26:53.000 --> 01:27:00.000
+And I'll get to the second part of the question is that we've seen a lot of more anecdotal evidence of maybe people living together.
+
+01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:07.000
+One gets sick, one develops antibodies, the other person doesn't get sick and doesn't develop antibodies.
+
+01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:14.000
+Could the 50%, could your 50% be explaining this?
+
+01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:22.000
+I mean, could it be giving sufficient immunity that people actually don't get traditionally infected and don't develop IgGs?
+
+01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:27.000
+Traditionally infected means IgGs? No.
+
+01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:37.000
+We started this talk by citing Perlman's work that showed that traditionally infected cells are animals clear the virus with T cells.
+
+01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:40.000
+The T cells are what matter.
+
+01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:49.000
+He just started the talk by telling you that people that can't make antibodies survive COVID.
+
+01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:58.000
+So the traditional kind of infection you're talking about doesn't exist except for in the cartoon land of public health,
+
+01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:04.000
+where respiratory infections produce antibodies, where vaccines produce antibodies, therefore they're the same.
+
+01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:09.000
+And vaccines are safer than infections, so it's an easy choice.
+
+01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:14.000
+The traditional model of infection is a cartoon of bullshit.
+
+01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:16.000
+That's the thing.
+
+01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:24.000
+It is a dumb, simple model of something that can't happen.
+
+01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:27.000
+Sorry for the swear words.
+
+01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:30.000
+It's definitely hypothetically possible.
+
+01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:37.000
+So we've tried to be clear to people.
+
+01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:39.000
+They didn't study that we've done.
+
+01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:44.000
+We have no data that directly speaks to immunity.
+
+01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:49.000
+Obviously what we've done is we've measured T cells, are they present or absent?
+
+01:28:49.000 --> 01:29:00.000
+And what we're seeing is that there are T cells that are present and unexposed people that can't recognize this virus.
+
+01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.000
+I was informed.
+
+01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:05.000
+He's got real trouble saying that, doesn't he?
+
+01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:13.000
+He's got a real hard time saying that there are T cells in unexposed individuals that are capable of recognizing this virus.
+
+01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:16.000
+And that means that there's memory response.
+
+01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:21.000
+That means that we don't need to be vaccinated because we don't know how to augment that.
+
+01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:24.000
+Holy cow.
+
+01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:28.000
+This virus. I was informed.
+
+01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:35.000
+Yesterday that one of the biggest papers in France.
+
+01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:43.000
+We reported that we had proven that 50% of people were going to be fine.
+
+01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:48.000
+I was like, Oh, God, that is not at all. What we said.
+
+01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:53.000
+But it is.
+
+01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:59.000
+50% of the people are going to be fine. We already know that way more than 50% of the people are going to be fine.
+
+01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:06.000
+What Shane has shown us is a mechanism by which we can explain how everybody's going to be fine.
+
+01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:11.000
+Because overlapping immunity to other RNA viruses is sufficient.
+
+01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:16.000
+And we need to boost our immune system. We need to boost our health. We need to take care of our nutrition.
+
+01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:21.000
+We need to do a lot of other things to avoid inflammation.
+
+01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:27.000
+We need to use antibiotics when we get a secondary pneumonia, which we didn't do.
+
+01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:31.000
+And in May, we weren't doing it at all.
+
+01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:37.000
+So were these people with secondary pneumonia? No, probably not. They had mild infection of something, I guess.
+
+01:30:37.000 --> 01:30:41.000
+Some kind of respiratory information.
+
+01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:46.000
+But it's extraordinary how they talk around this. It's, it's incredible. May 2020.
+
+01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:52.000
+I agree that it's conceivable that that such T sounds.
+
+01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:54.000
+Could provide.
+
+01:30:54.000 --> 01:31:00.000
+He's trying not to say what the biology really is. He's trying to leave the door open for not knowing.
+
+01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:04.000
+He's trying to leave the door open for more papers to be done.
+
+01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:08.000
+Trying to leave the door open for more investigation.
+
+01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:12.000
+It's really awful if you hear it.
+
+01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:16.000
+He knows the right answer. He knew the right answer before he started doing the experiments.
+
+01:31:16.000 --> 01:31:23.000
+But he started out by saying we don't know anything. This knowledge gap is really making people frightened.
+
+01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:32.000
+And so I'm going to come to the rescue and slowly but surely brick by brick give you the knowledge that you need to survive.
+
+01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:38.000
+Even though all the previous immunology that we know seems to tell us we're going to be okay.
+
+01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:42.000
+It gives us a lot of reason to believe that we already know why.
+
+01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:47.000
+Stanley Perlman's work being some of the best from the early 2000s.
+
+01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:57.000
+Sited by this very guy at the start of this talk. But still talking like 20 years ago we didn't do those experiments.
+
+01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:07.000
+Immunity at a level that it could reduce an average symptomatic infection to become asymptomatic.
+
+01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:10.000
+That is definitely hypothetically possible.
+
+01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:20.000
+And in our minds the best ways to address that are we've really got to get before and after measurements.
+
+01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:28.000
+Or we have to be able to identify epitopes that can distinguish cross-reactive from de novo responses.
+
+01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:33.000
+And so we're certainly hard at work to try and generate both of those.
+
+01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:46.000
+And reaching out to people to ask do people have longitudinal studies right of groups of people where perhaps we can capture people before and after COVID-19 and measure the T cells that are present.
+
+01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:58.000
+Those are the ways to actually get at that question we think it's incredibly intriguing and obviously I would love for that speculation to be true.
+
+01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:04.000
+But there's really a lot more data that would have to be generated to validate that.
+
+01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:20.000
+Laura if you unmute yourself you can. Thanks I hope am I unmuted. Yes. Great. So similar related questions you effectively have a cohort of individuals if you can identify those patients who tested positively in your T cell assay.
+
+01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:30.000
+Can you contact them and survey them by email to see what was their rate at which they got ill with COVID-19.
+
+01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:34.000
+So that is if whether you can unveil all that patient data.
+
+01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:55.000
+And the second is you know in the hypothetical case where let's say this assay is more informative than the ubiquitous IgG assays that you know everybody is relying on these days because so far you demonstrate correlation if they're positive for reactive T cells they're also positive in IgG.
+
+01:33:55.000 --> 01:34:10.000
+But of course we want to know for those individuals like those autoimmune or those that lack IgGs that also don't get sick if this is in fact more informative what would it take to make it a widespread test.
+
+01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:14.000
+Yeah really good questions for the first one.
+
+01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:28.000
+We can and are following up with with the people that we already enrolled but it's a numbers game okay so I mean in California there aren't there aren't that many cases and so you know we think to do a longitudinal study.
+
+01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:43.000
+So what we need in the range of like you know 400 people that we would enroll before infection and then see at some point in time to maybe 10% of those become infected.
+
+01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:48.000
+Those would be the numbers that we would expect to have to run.
+
+01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:57.000
+You also have the difficulty that there's nobody now knows whether or not they've been exposed you only know if you have confirmed exposure.
+
+01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:02.000
+So it's actually more useful to look at all the pre 2020 samples.
+
+01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:13.000
+And then reach out and then certain and simply survey those individuals by email have their physicians reach out to them to see did they contact COVID-19 or not.
+
+01:35:13.000 --> 01:35:16.000
+And see then how that rate compares to averages.
+
+01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:31.000
+Agreed and it becomes a numbers game you know can you get enough of those enough of those samples and enough enough follow but I agree that's that's absolutely in an approach and we're trying to do that.
+
+01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:37.000
+I just don't know that we have the numbers for it for the
+
+01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:41.000
+developing into a widespread test. Right. Thank you.
+
+01:35:41.000 --> 01:35:45.000
+I think widespread the key there.
+
+01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:50.000
+T cell assays are intrinsically more challenging than antibody assays because they involve.
+
+01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:57.000
+Don't forget there's a there's a twin interview with Christian Anderson where they talk about his early career.
+
+01:35:57.000 --> 01:36:03.000
+And his early career involved being a cellular immunologist and working on T cells.
+
+01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:13.000
+In England and becoming so frustrated with it that he decided to go into infectious disease instead T cells are hard to work on because T cells are everywhere and nowhere.
+
+01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:29.000
+Because they're autonomous actors in your immune system symphony that don't do what they're told or go where they're told but follow complex concentration gradients and activation cycles.
+
+01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:38.000
+And so getting at that response is like trying to I don't know.
+
+01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:48.000
+It's trying to keep track of some kind of ecological thing like a like a squirrel with only one measuring device like a like a camera.
+
+01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:54.000
+And then thinking that you're going to get an accurate sampling of all the squirrels in the in the neighborhood.
+
+01:36:54.000 --> 01:37:06.000
+But all you've got is a camera on your back porch no bait or even if you have bait you think you're going to see what the squirrels are doing and all the squirrels are going to come to your house.
+
+01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:15.000
+And so they take a sample from somebody's blood and now already what do you have you got a you know you got the park in your neighborhood.
+
+01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:28.000
+And so if there's a there's a whole bunch of black squirrels in Bethel Park am I going to find them if I sample from the basketball court and the playground down the street guaranteed.
+
+01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:35.000
+Would I get an accurate sample of how many black squirrels there are in the neighborhood if I did that over and over and over again.
+
+01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:37.000
+Of course I wouldn't.
+
+01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:40.000
+There's no reason to expect that I would.
+
+01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:54.000
+And so if they sample T cells from a patient do you think they're getting an accurate representation of the distribution of T cell specificity across this genome of course they're not.
+
+01:37:54.000 --> 01:38:02.000
+That's what they're talking about when they say T cell assays are notoriously difficult T cells are notoriously difficult to study period.
+
+01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:06.000
+There are no assays.
+
+01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:13.000
+The only time they get a really robust signal and where there are abundance of T cells that recognize a particular target that's the whole point.
+
+01:38:13.000 --> 01:38:18.000
+Otherwise how can you possibly resolve these signals.
+
+01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:24.000
+How many helper T cells do you really need for a response we don't know that answer.
+
+01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:32.000
+So he's walking on eggshells here trying to keep the biggest and broadest barn doors open for possibility.
+
+01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:49.000
+So he's got a lifetime of work ahead of him even if he knows that none of the assays that he's currently using can ever as adequately answer these questions because the model that they use don't make accurate doesn't make accurate predictions about measurements in the future.
+
+01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:55.000
+I think both cells and cellular readouts are more challenging.
+
+01:38:55.000 --> 01:39:02.000
+Certainly the tuberculosis quantifera and assay is widely used.
+
+01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:04.000
+It definitely works.
+
+01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:11.000
+And so conceivably a similar type assay could be developed for.
+
+01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:17.000
+For stars to specific T cells using using mapped epitopes that may be.
+
+01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:25.000
+So here he seems to be implying that they're not that aim methodology that he used was not spike specific.
+
+01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:28.000
+So if we go back to that, where are we now here?
+
+01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:32.000
+I just want to make sure you know what I'm talking about 2628.
+
+01:39:32.000 --> 01:39:42.000
+If we go back here to this aim experiment that he did, which was right.
+
+01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:46.000
+I thought it was at like nine.
+
+01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:49.000
+See first he shows antibodies.
+
+01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:55.000
+And then he shows the T cell activation with regard to the pertussis vaccine.
+
+01:39:55.000 --> 01:40:00.000
+And it's antigen specific.
+
+01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:03.000
+What is this?
+
+01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:11.000
+A germanol centered T follicle helper cells something like that are very stingy cytokine producers yada yada yada.
+
+01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:16.000
+And then right after this he shows this graph where.
+
+01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:19.000
+Sorry right before that.
+
+01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:23.000
+He shows this graph where it seems to be spike and non spike.
+
+01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:30.000
+But I don't know for sure.
+
+01:40:30.000 --> 01:40:36.000
+What this means spike T cells there aren't that many spike T cells it might just be that.
+
+01:40:36.000 --> 01:40:44.000
+The the epitope that they chose from the spike protein has this much overlap and that they pull a lot of T cells without.
+
+01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:55.000
+These are these are all T cells without that specificity the vast majority of them are piling up there only a few of them are here that looks like a lot though.
+
+01:40:55.000 --> 01:41:01.000
+And so again I don't know how much this is verified I don't know how these essays work so I'm kind of.
+
+01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:06.000
+You know critiquing something that I can't fully understand but.
+
+01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:12.000
+I do know that they're probably exaggerating the specificity of this spike specific signal.
+
+01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:19.000
+And they are definitely exaggerating the specificity of this T cell activated signal.
+
+01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:33.000
+Again because why because when he did the non infected individuals 50% of them had cells had T cell responses very similar to this with the same specificity for spike.
+
+01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:44.000
+So if that's the case then in this case you would have expected at least 50% of these signals to be there before they were exposed to SARS-CoV-2.
+
+01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:59.000
+And if there are signals that are sub threshold that are also overlapping then in these other people then all of these signals and potential could be based on previous immunity to other fusion proteins from other RNA viruses.
+
+01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:09.000
+And they make no effort to distinguish on purpose because we're all agreed that the assumption is that these are new novel viruses so we don't need to make that.
+
+01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:11.000
+We don't have to prove that to you.
+
+01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:16.000
+The whole point is it's novel from the beginning so why do we have to prove that?
+
+01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:19.000
+That's the enchantment.
+
+01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:23.000
+It's not the droids you're looking for kind of thing.
+
+01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:28.000
+It's 2622 is that what I said?
+
+01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:32.000
+I don't know what type assay could be developed.
+
+01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:36.000
+That flows cytometry assays that are not appropriate for what?
+
+01:42:36.000 --> 01:42:40.000
+They're not appropriate for commercial products.
+
+01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:43.000
+Make no mistake about it ladies and gentlemen.
+
+01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:45.000
+That's what he's saying here.
+
+01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:52.000
+T cell assays in order to be even remotely specific cannot be made into commercial products.
+
+01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:57.000
+You heard it here first or at least you're hearing it here again.
+
+01:42:57.000 --> 01:43:01.000
+That's definitely what he's saying here and not so many words.
+
+01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:03.000
+But that's why.
+
+01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:07.000
+Because you don't want to admit that the reason why we test for anybody is because we can.
+
+01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:11.000
+And the reason why we don't test for T cells is because we can't.
+
+01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:15.000
+We can't monetize that.
+
+01:43:16.000 --> 01:43:21.000
+So do you need a blood draw of a substantial sample to pursue and lengthy your time of course.
+
+01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:23.000
+For those that.
+
+01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:25.000
+Yes.
+
+01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:26.000
+I mean.
+
+01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:27.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:28.000
+Take it from there.
+
+01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:29.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:30.000
+You've been salted.
+
+01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:32.000
+You can unmute yourself.
+
+01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:33.000
+Yep.
+
+01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:34.000
+You're all set.
+
+01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:35.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:36.000
+Shane.
+
+01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:37.000
+Very exciting talk.
+
+01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:44.000
+Can you tell us that now that you are deciphering which epitopes are featured by.
+
+01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:47.000
+Which HLA's in particular patients.
+
+01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:53.000
+Is that going to allow you or is it worth it to use this for individualized treatments?
+
+01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:55.000
+Say individualized vaccines.
+
+01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:57.000
+Individualized vaccines.
+
+01:43:57.000 --> 01:44:00.000
+He's mentioning individualized vaccines.
+
+01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:06.000
+Can you use something like tetramers in order to determine tetramers.
+
+01:44:07.000 --> 01:44:08.000
+Aptamers.
+
+01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:09.000
+Aptamers.
+
+01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:13.000
+That's what they can use to stimulate the immune system.
+
+01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:15.000
+And they already knew that for a long time.
+
+01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:18.000
+A very short amino acid chain.
+
+01:44:18.000 --> 01:44:23.500
+Attached to another immunogenic molecule is the perfect way to stimulate the immune system
+
+01:44:23.500 --> 01:44:24.500
+to an epitope.
+
+01:44:24.500 --> 01:44:26.000
+They knew that already.
+
+01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:28.000
+That's what he's talking about.
+
+01:44:28.000 --> 01:44:34.000
+So can we make that little short epitope specific for each individual in their vaccine?
+
+01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:36.000
+Can we make individualized vaccines?
+
+01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:38.000
+Mark, did you hear it?
+
+01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:40.000
+Did you hear him say it?
+
+01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:42.000
+Patients.
+
+01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:47.000
+Is that going to allow you or is it worth it to use this for individualized treatments?
+
+01:44:47.000 --> 01:44:50.000
+Say individualized vaccines with epitopes.
+
+01:44:50.000 --> 01:44:54.000
+They're particularly good for people with a particular HLA.
+
+01:44:54.000 --> 01:45:03.000
+Or can you use something like tetramers in order to determine where people are in their response
+
+01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:09.000
+and better treat them as individuals based on their HLA sequences?
+
+01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:10.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:11.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:45:11.000 --> 01:45:12.000
+Great.
+
+01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:13.000
+Great questions.
+
+01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:21.000
+Certainly the SETI lab is actively mapping epitopes because there is a lot of value in knowing.
+
+01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:27.000
+So DC sign that is supposed to be in or near the receptor binding domain of this spike protein.
+
+01:45:27.000 --> 01:45:36.000
+DC sign is a HLA, a generic HLA, stimulating epitope, supposedly.
+
+01:45:36.000 --> 01:45:40.000
+That's the whole reason why that's an exciting thing to talk about.
+
+01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:45.000
+I haven't really gone beyond what I've seen jickey leaks in other people cover that that
+
+01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:48.000
+supposedly is in the spike.
+
+01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:53.000
+But if it's there, there would be no biological reason to expect it to remain there for a very
+
+01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:57.000
+long time because the spike changes quite rapidly.
+
+01:45:57.000 --> 01:46:02.000
+And nobody's been paying any attention to it's coming and going in different variants.
+
+01:46:02.000 --> 01:46:06.000
+Even the dissident people who say that it's important.
+
+01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:09.000
+And so that leads me to believe that it's a red herring.
+
+01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:14.000
+However, if it's there, it would be there in the sequence because they wanted it to be there
+
+01:46:14.000 --> 01:46:20.000
+in the spike that they were going to transfect people with in order to make sure that it would
+
+01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:28.000
+be immunogenic enough to generate a robust antibody response that they could predict and detect.
+
+01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:33.000
+That's the worst case scenario in my humble opinion is that they lied about the virus
+
+01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:40.000
+and released a clone that had a spike protein that has already a well tested immunogen protein.
+
+01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:46.000
+So that when they decided in 45 minutes to use the spike protein to code on optimize it
+
+01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:53.000
+and change it's uracils to uracils to pseudo uridine, they knew already that they had a sequence
+
+01:46:53.000 --> 01:46:57.000
+in there that was going to guarantee a robust antibody response.
+
+01:46:57.000 --> 01:47:07.000
+And maybe even a somewhat homologous one or homogenous one across people because more people
+
+01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:13.000
+would be apt to respond to this section of the protein because of this unique stimulating epitope.
+
+01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:20.000
+It's an interesting scary story, but it remains the same scary story in regards to the virology.
+
+01:47:20.000 --> 01:47:27.000
+You don't put that into a virus and then the virus itself is able to do things that other
+
+01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:30.000
+RNA viruses couldn't do.
+
+01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:36.000
+You can't go from, you know, a small firework to a nuclear bomb because you changed a few
+
+01:47:36.000 --> 01:47:38.000
+letters in the code. That doesn't work.
+
+01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:44.000
+But you could change a few letters in that protein's code and then make it a more effective
+
+01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:48.000
+immunogen in the context of transfection.
+
+01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:53.000
+And if that was possible and that was done, then it would be very much to your advantage.
+
+01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:58.000
+If you're going to lie about a virus, you might as well lie about a virus that has a useful epitope in it,
+
+01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:04.000
+that you're sure will make your countermeasure effective and you're sure will make your roll out
+
+01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:10.000
+of a never-before-intested genetic vaccine technology will look super effective
+
+01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:15.000
+across any number of measuring correlates.
+
+01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:20.000
+That's the worst-case scenario. The other one is they just lied about everything.
+
+01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:24.000
+But if there is some biology and there is some mechanism behind the lies,
+
+01:48:24.000 --> 01:48:31.000
+this is likely a possible candidate and here they are talking about HLA subtypes
+
+01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:36.000
+and screening for those epitopes, which the HLA subtypes are most likely to choose,
+
+01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:41.000
+which is kind of along the same lines of a ethnically or racially targeted virus,
+
+01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:45.000
+but not really the same, but kind of.
+
+01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:51.000
+It's definitely the same receptor set and the same story about how the receptor set is determined
+
+01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:58.000
+and what your epitopes are going to be, which is what he's explained before.
+
+01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:01.000
+The C-cell memory is unique for everyone.
+
+01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:06.000
+That's what makes it pretty hard for an RNA virus to do a nuclear bomb-style three-year circulation
+
+01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:09.000
+of the world in rainbow colors.
+
+01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:15.000
+Cool epitopes. Certainly on the class one side,
+
+01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:18.000
+there's...
+
+01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:23.000
+the epitopes can be predicted quite well and are recurrent and so making tetramararies
+
+01:49:23.000 --> 01:49:27.000
+or other reagents to more finely follow the responses as a value.
+
+01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:32.000
+That's a much harder sell on the class two side.
+
+01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:42.000
+There's so much binding diversity and lack of great predictability for any given epitope
+
+01:49:42.000 --> 01:49:53.000
+and any given person that I would say we were struck in a positive way by how broad the response is,
+
+01:49:53.000 --> 01:50:01.000
+even in this relatively small group of donors across quite a few different proteins of COVID-19
+
+01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:03.000
+of SARS-2.
+
+01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:12.000
+And so finding a quote-unquote sort of magic epitope isn't needed and also that any given epitope,
+
+01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:21.000
+even if somebody has a given HLA for class two, there's a good chance they wouldn't respond to that specific epitope
+
+01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:25.000
+and so it was good to see that there were broad responses across them.
+
+01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:34.000
+We're certainly exploring that and particularly Alex's group is identifying as many epitopes as they possibly can
+
+01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:40.000
+in order to try and get a sense of this with certainly a lot of interest in S,
+
+01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:44.000
+predominantly from the vaccine side with all of these vaccines focused on S,
+
+01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:50.000
+we really want to know if there was anything odd about any particular epitopes.
+
+01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:59.000
+So in May of 2020, they are already making vaccines aimed at the spike.
+
+01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:13.000
+You see, that's extraordinary, really, because there was no evidence in New York City or elsewhere that there was huge spread.
+
+01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:15.000
+They were lying about it.
+
+01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:23.000
+They were doing everything they possibly could to maximize the illusion that this spread was happening.
+
+01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:26.000
+But now in retrospect, we know that that was an exaggeration.
+
+01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:27.000
+We know that they were lying.
+
+01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:34.000
+We know that they were pushing the worst case scenario in front and behind the scenes.
+
+01:51:34.000 --> 01:51:40.000
+And so now with 2020 hindsight, we look back and we can see very clearly that we were bamboozled.
+
+01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:51.000
+We were lied to by people high and low, social media, zoom meetings, TV news, the whole nine yards.
+
+01:51:51.000 --> 01:52:01.000
+And the people that weren't lying were fooled, were coerced, or were too dumb to know,
+
+01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:06.000
+or were following the look away doctrine, which is, you know, what you don't see, it doesn't happen.
+
+01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:10.000
+What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
+
+01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:13.000
+You got to break some eggs to make an omelet.
+
+01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:17.000
+Whatever your rationale phrase is.
+
+01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:24.000
+A moment our perspective is there's a broad number of epitopes and it's probably best to focus on that breath.
+
+01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:25.000
+But a very good question.
+
+01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:27.000
+Great. Thank you very much.
+
+01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:30.000
+Rodney, you can unmute yourself.
+
+01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:31.000
+Yes.
+
+01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:34.000
+Thanks, Shane. That was really very interesting.
+
+01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:41.000
+So, so Andy and Laura, both of my questions, but I had a third one.
+
+01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:53.000
+And the third one is, have you thought about looking at populations like in Hong Kong or in China to see what their CD fours look like,
+
+01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:59.000
+especially given that they may have been exposed to stars like viruses in advance.
+
+01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:03.000
+And maybe that's why things are not as bad there as they are.
+
+01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:14.000
+Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's a very interesting question and a very interesting speculation.
+
+01:53:14.000 --> 01:53:22.000
+You know, like just looking at the US, right, we were wondering, well, okay, just in hypothetical fantasy land.
+
+01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:29.000
+What if it's one particular coronavirus that's particularly positively correlated or negative or maybe in different regions of the country, right?
+
+01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:38.000
+These are circulating to different degrees. At least in the US, the coronavirus data is actually that for that period of time,
+
+01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:42.000
+the CDC divides the country into these four regions.
+
+01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:49.000
+And while there are fine scale differences, right, in the epidemiology there, not a lot.
+
+01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:55.000
+It was mostly the same, right? Same viruses peaked in each region in the same year.
+
+01:53:55.000 --> 01:54:05.000
+So at least in the US, that doesn't look to be a regionalism. It doesn't look to be a distinguish or per se.
+
+01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:14.000
+But yes, outside of the US, I fully agree. We've talked with at least one group in Hong Kong that said,
+
+01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:22.000
+hey, your data look great. We'd love to look at these coronaviruses and others to see, you know,
+
+01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:32.000
+do the T cells, do people have different T cell reactivities to different coronaviruses or coronaviruses that aren't so widely spread?
+
+01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:39.000
+And do people write in Hong Kong? Well, it's somebody else's data. I'm not going to talk about it.
+
+01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:45.000
+So exactly right. Very good question. And we know at least some people are starting to explore.
+
+01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:55.000
+The simplest approach is actually a combined serological T cell approach. So, for example, just running serology to see if you have 100 people,
+
+01:54:55.000 --> 01:55:01.000
+are they all positive for all four common cold coronaviruses or does it does it stratify in different ways?
+
+01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:12.000
+And then can you relate that to the SARS-2 reactive T cells for some more exotic coronavirus?
+
+01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:22.000
+Oh, wow. So let's just get rid of this. Oops. Sorry about that. And let's bring this back up.
+
+01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:39.000
+So this was throwback Thursday with a talk by Sean Crotty from May 27, 2020. And I hope it illustrated to you how the the immunomythology 101 was laid down from the very beginning and how everybody was committed to this lie very early.
+
+01:55:39.000 --> 01:55:50.000
+This inversion, this making everything dumb simple so that people would accept antibodies as a correlative immunity, the only one we really have.
+
+01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:57.000
+And because we know nothing is the best we got, and we're going to design vaccines based on it.
+
+01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:06.000
+And of course, that's what this is all about, right? A friend of mine pointed out that a lot of people win their Nobel Prize for work they did like 10 years earlier,
+
+01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:16.000
+or even 20 years earlier. And these guys are winning a Nobel Prize for work they apparently did like last year, which is extraordinary.
+
+01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:31.000
+It may even be the case that this sets a legal precedence of sort that makes it very hard for anybody to be blamed for anything going wrong because if you try to sue Pfizer beyond tech,
+
+01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:43.000
+Pfizer or beyond tech will say, but what are you talking about? We did the best we could. We did the state of the art. We did what we use the Nobel Prize winning methodology.
+
+01:56:43.000 --> 01:57:00.000
+So what do you mean? What do we do wrong? So this could be part of a covert and overt, you know, kind of campaign behind the scenes and and in front of the cameras to legitimize
+
+01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:16.000
+the whole methodology as we've talked about many times, of course, before we think that that's definitely the case, but also just the whole the whole what was done, how it was done, how it was accomplished.
+
+01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:30.000
+All of these things are trying to overwrite the noise that's there, try to make it seem like it's really clean and really simple, just like we listened to his lecture.
+
+01:57:30.000 --> 01:57:39.000
+We heard Mark's little short from yesterday, where his lecture where he's just talking about how you know our RNA and lipids, it's all the same.
+
+01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:55.000
+It's much better than monoclonal antibodies or the potential to be much better than monoclonal antibodies. And so we're going to explore that video in in depth, I think tomorrow that Mark hinted was very good and I think it's going to be spectacular.
+
+01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:58.000
+Thanks very much for joining me.
+
+01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:10.000
+And this has been giggle and biological where we believe that the who led us to believe there was a pandemic with the cooperation of all governments around the world that were coerced or on board.
+
+01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:13.000
+We used a test that wasn't specific.
+
+01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:20.000
+We said that something was novel when it wasn't when we had previous immunity that even stray shame karate at a hard time hiding.
+
+01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:33.000
+They're lying about this immunomethologies because they have every intention of using this immunomethology to mislead our children and to take away their sovereignty over their bodies and the bodies of their children.
+
+01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:48.000
+The reason why they want to do that is because they would like that data, whether or not they can do anything useful to it, they have convinced each other as peers as rulers that that data is theirs, and that they that we belong to them.
+
+01:58:48.000 --> 01:58:57.000
+And as their subjects, we should give their data to them so that they can extend their lifetimes, they can do all the transgenic magic to themselves.
+
+01:58:57.000 --> 01:59:15.000
+And that's also the sort of evil overlord mythology that they would like us to believe so that it paralyzes us so that it keeps us on our couch and keeps us clicking on the next YouTube video instead of actually making a phone call or testifying in court or filing suit
+
+01:59:15.000 --> 01:59:19.000
+or not wearing or doing what you're told when you're told to do it.
+
+01:59:19.000 --> 01:59:23.000
+So thanks for waking up. Thanks for being here with me tonight.
+
+01:59:23.000 --> 01:59:33.000
+If you want to follow what I'm doing or help me out at all, it's at gingolmbiological.com or you can scroll down to the bottom and you can become a supporter at a couple different levels.
+
+01:59:33.000 --> 01:59:42.000
+A lot of the people who are scrolling across the screen when I'm presenting our people that aren't supporting anymore but have supported in the last three years.
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+01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:46.000
+It's not a super long list, so everybody stays on it.
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+You can join me at gingolm.biow where it's kind of like a Twitter substitute thing.
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+You do have to register, but it's any email and it's administered by me and one of the viewers, so it's not any place where you're going to need to be worried.
+
+02:00:01.000 --> 02:00:08.000
+It's a pretty safe little community there, although it is open to the public, nobody knows it exists.
+
+02:00:08.000 --> 02:00:13.000
+And if you want to support my work with a one-time donation, you can do it there on the front page as well.
+
+02:00:13.000 --> 02:00:16.000
+This has been gingolmbiological.
+
+02:00:16.000 --> 02:00:31.000
+Make sure you remember that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb and you can say that shortly for the current iteration by saying transfection is not immunization.
+
+02:00:31.000 --> 02:00:44.000
+Stop all transfections in humans because they are trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary. This has been gingolmbiological.
+
+02:00:44.000 --> 02:00:51.000
+Hey, high-resistance, low-noise information brief brought to you by a biologist. Thanks very much for coming. Thanks for being here tonight.
+
+02:00:51.000 --> 02:00:58.000
+I hope it was a little bit enjoyable and, like I say, sleep well and I will see you guys again tomorrow.
+
+02:01:04.000 --> 02:01:12.000
+Lots of people here tonight. At some point we had 115 people, so the people that are here now are obviously the hard cores.
+
+02:01:12.000 --> 02:01:18.000
+But man, oh man, we're doing better and better every night. Please keep sharing the stream if you can.
+
+02:01:18.000 --> 02:01:25.000
+And yeah, let's just keep moving forward, keep pushing the ball forward.
+
+02:01:25.000 --> 02:01:36.000
+Don't forget to check out Mark Cusatonic on YouTube and watch all the work that he's doing because, yeah, there aren't very many people to follow.
+
+02:01:36.000 --> 02:01:47.000
+Jessica Hockett, Nick Hudson, Dr. Thomas Binder from Switzerland, Denny Rangula from Canada.
+
+02:01:47.000 --> 02:01:51.000
+Yeah, there's some good ones out there, but you've got to be careful. Thanks, guys.
+
+02:01:53.000 --> 02:01:55.000
+Whoa.
+
+02:01:55.000 --> 02:01:59.000
+That should have been like this. That would have been like this.
+
+02:02:36.000 --> 02:02:38.000
+Thank you.
+
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+Oh, oh,
+
+03:16.680 --> 03:22.120
+I was telling him to say it, he should have put Bobby on when he was on his when it was
+
+03:22.120 --> 03:30.080
+at his house in November of 2021, not in 2023, 14 months later, he should have had the courage
+
+03:30.080 --> 03:33.360
+to speak out when he knew what he didn't.
+
+03:33.360 --> 03:46.160
+That's the point we're noticing, numerous times over the past month is means nothing
+
+03:46.160 --> 03:49.480
+now means nothing.
+
+03:49.480 --> 04:13.360
+He knew in 2020, he knew in 2021 for sure.
+
+04:13.360 --> 04:37.520
+Mike Vandenberg, next date, Mike Vandenberg, next date.
+
+04:37.520 --> 05:04.600
+Good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is King of Home Biological, High Resistance Low
+
+05:04.600 --> 05:10.320
+Noise Information Brief brought to you by a biologist, it's the 6th of October, 2023.
+
+05:10.320 --> 05:21.160
+We are still battling this very limited spectrum of bait, which was basically sculpted by and
+
+05:21.160 --> 05:25.680
+crafted by people like Brett Weinstein, who at the beginning of the pandemic made it seem
+
+05:25.680 --> 05:28.960
+very possible that the worst case scenario could happen.
+
+05:28.960 --> 05:33.780
+He made it very possible to believe that Vandenas could save you, he made it very possible
+
+05:33.780 --> 05:39.900
+to believe that locking down and staying away from your grandparents was a great idea.
+
+05:39.900 --> 05:45.760
+Brett Weinstein perpetuated the narrative for at least the first two years of the pandemic
+
+05:45.760 --> 05:55.500
+which created a perception of this sort of consensus that yeah, it's dangerous.
+
+05:55.500 --> 06:03.620
+Yeah, there's a virus, you've got to do something and in doing so, he misled the young.
+
+06:03.620 --> 06:11.260
+In doing so, they've all misled the young and that's why we should be pissed.
+
+06:11.260 --> 06:19.900
+Because this necessity as a plea, this necessity as an excuse for every infringement of human
+
+06:19.900 --> 06:25.540
+freedom, it's the argument of tyrants and it's the creed of slaves, you need to learn
+
+06:25.540 --> 06:37.140
+your history before they erase it forever.
+
+06:37.140 --> 06:43.140
+I really believe that the Rick Wall at the back of the theater is visible and they are
+
+06:43.140 --> 06:50.100
+clearing the tables and chairs because that has become no longer profitable to maintain
+
+06:50.100 --> 06:56.420
+this illusion of freedom and so you can see it, I can see it, how are we going and what
+
+06:56.420 --> 07:01.660
+are we going to do about the fact that there was no spread in New York City, about the
+
+07:01.660 --> 07:06.420
+fact that they keep lying about infectious clones, about the fact that they keep lying
+
+07:06.420 --> 07:13.660
+about placebo batches and giving the Nobel Prize for transfection.
+
+07:13.660 --> 07:31.660
+Let's get going biological, very happy to be here tonight, thank you for joining me.
+
+07:31.660 --> 07:41.300
+Good evening, my name is Jonathan Cooley, I am the biologist that brings you this show
+
+07:41.300 --> 07:48.340
+as often as possible almost nightly now for quite some time, we are trying to fight this
+
+07:48.340 --> 07:55.420
+idea that the illusion of consensus that is created by TV and social media is now starting
+
+07:55.420 --> 08:01.460
+to bait us to hate each other, it's starting to bait us to behave ever more ridiculously
+
+08:01.460 --> 08:06.260
+and we need to wake up and apologize to our kids for not seeing through this much earlier
+
+08:06.260 --> 08:12.300
+and for falling for this mystery that we all have to solve and I hope that you and your
+
+08:12.300 --> 08:17.140
+friends are starting to realize that that's really the trick that they pulled on us and
+
+08:17.140 --> 08:23.540
+it's a way of governing us, this is the strategy by which the American government and Western
+
+08:23.540 --> 08:31.780
+governments have decided to govern their societies is with a complex web of coordinated lies
+
+08:31.780 --> 08:35.940
+and it could very well be that they have completely exaggerated the biological significance
+
+08:35.940 --> 08:43.700
+of this event with the express written consent of permanently changing what our kids perceive
+
+08:43.700 --> 08:52.580
+to be true and once they've changed what our kids perceive to be true, we're done and that's
+
+08:52.580 --> 08:57.100
+something you really need to understand is the reason why I'm mad at Brett Weinstein and Sam
+
+08:57.100 --> 09:02.220
+Harris and all these other people who have taken part in laying down the worst case scenario
+
+09:02.220 --> 09:07.820
+narrative at the beginning of the pandemic, the conformist narrative at the beginning of the pandemic,
+
+09:07.820 --> 09:14.620
+the Jordan Peterson, we should just shut up and take the shot, let's wait six months and see what
+
+09:14.620 --> 09:20.860
+happens kind of thing, let's let the Jews get on the train and then we'll check on them in a few
+
+09:20.860 --> 09:28.940
+months and see if they're okay. Now you might be a little offended by that last statement but
+
+09:28.940 --> 09:36.060
+one of my good friends is someone who has the authority to speak that way and she assures me
+
+09:36.780 --> 09:43.980
+that that analogy is apt here. You can't wear the uniform for 20 years and then take it off now
+
+09:43.980 --> 09:53.500
+and claim everything is good and you can't have said all of the things that these people said
+
+09:53.500 --> 09:58.380
+that the dark web said at the beginning of the pandemic and in the year up to the pandemic
+
+09:59.980 --> 10:05.580
+and then just say now you're a good guy. There's no way that you woke up this late
+
+10:05.580 --> 10:11.340
+on accident. There's no way you were this on narrative in the first year on accident.
+
+10:13.740 --> 10:21.100
+No, there's only one way to explain that and that's really where the heart of this
+
+10:21.980 --> 10:26.940
+is right now. We're trying to sort out moving the people on this map that are interesting
+
+10:28.460 --> 10:33.900
+because right now the faith is very simple. Well the faith is that there's a novel virus we had to
+
+10:33.900 --> 10:40.620
+do something the mRNA saved between 13 and 16 million lives and there's most certainly a virus
+
+10:40.620 --> 10:45.340
+coming again because gain of function hasn't been did we haven't done anything about it and because
+
+10:45.340 --> 10:51.580
+of the acceleration of our molecular biological techniques it sooner or later is going to be easy
+
+10:51.580 --> 10:58.380
+enough to order a kid online and make a coronavirus pandemic in your kitchen. Maybe it'll even be a
+
+10:58.460 --> 11:03.020
+high school science project de attenuated pandemic virus poster.
+
+11:08.780 --> 11:13.820
+And the way to sort through these people that are parading around as leaders is to scrutinize
+
+11:13.820 --> 11:20.940
+their take on the vaccination schedule in America scrutinize their take on the
+
+11:21.740 --> 11:29.260
+the CICP on the VICP on the PrEP Act on the difference between the vaccine schedule in
+
+11:29.260 --> 11:37.660
+America and in other countries and on the FDA and the CDC because if they're at all
+
+11:37.660 --> 11:43.020
+mealy mouth or at all apologetic then you know right away you can see right through them if
+
+11:43.020 --> 11:48.620
+they're have the courage to say the transfection is an immunization you might have a real ally
+
+11:48.620 --> 11:54.780
+on your hands and if they have the courage to actually admit that it's very possible that all
+
+11:54.780 --> 11:59.980
+intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the
+
+11:59.980 --> 12:06.620
+immune system is just plain ridiculous then you really might have an ally on your hands.
+
+12:07.900 --> 12:14.940
+Now don't get me wrong I'm very well aware that our friend Robert F Kennedy Jr. has never or at
+
+12:15.020 --> 12:21.900
+least seems to avoid saying on screen that he thinks that the vaccine schedule in America is bad
+
+12:21.900 --> 12:29.180
+and that people shouldn't take vaccines he's very careful to say he wants the schedule tested
+
+12:29.180 --> 12:33.980
+he's pro vaccine and that he just wants safe vaccines.
+
+12:35.980 --> 12:42.860
+Now if you see him as a lawyer and you see him as a politician and you see him as something other
+
+12:42.940 --> 12:50.140
+than a biologist and perhaps it's easy to understand but I have every intention of influencing him
+
+12:51.100 --> 12:56.540
+to if at all possible through direct and indirect influences I guess it can only be
+
+12:56.540 --> 13:03.500
+indirect at this point because I work for who I work for but I want him to be here I want him to
+
+13:03.500 --> 13:10.700
+be where Peter McCullough is and I want him to openly say it before he gets elected not after
+
+13:11.660 --> 13:17.180
+but maybe that's not in the cards maybe the only way to the White House is to appease those
+
+13:18.060 --> 13:27.100
+sleepers out there who will not have the time or the courage to to figure this out even if
+
+13:27.100 --> 13:32.620
+we throw them a lifeline they're not going to grab on tight enough and Bobby may have the right
+
+13:32.620 --> 13:36.860
+play here but I want you to understand that Peter McCullough has flipped that around already
+
+13:36.940 --> 13:40.620
+and of course we've been paying a lot of attention to Robert Malone and the people that he points
+
+13:40.620 --> 13:47.020
+to and the people that he ignores and more importantly we've gone back to early emergent
+
+13:47.020 --> 13:55.260
+Robert Malone in 2021 and seen some very curious patterns with regard to who he performs with
+
+13:56.780 --> 14:04.460
+and it wasn't the local news in Virginia it wasn't the let's say typical podcaster
+
+14:07.500 --> 14:14.220
+we've also had a recent visit by Denny and Peter on the show and although I botched the time it was
+
+14:14.220 --> 14:21.260
+a really good interview if you missed it check it out please I did a stream this past couple days
+
+14:21.260 --> 14:27.660
+about Philip Buckholtz who's a guy who I believe he testified in front of the South Carolina Senate
+
+14:28.460 --> 14:33.340
+about the contents of the mRNA shots and the fact that they had this plasmid contamination
+
+14:34.300 --> 14:39.100
+and he spoke very authoritatively and I have no doubt that he found the DNA that he did
+
+14:39.820 --> 14:48.300
+he's also intimately involved with testing for coronavirus using PCR early in the pandemic
+
+14:49.340 --> 14:56.700
+and is a well in that in that chat or talk he is a self-proclaimed expert but he is an expert
+
+14:56.700 --> 15:01.100
+I mean you can see that he's got he's got chops obviously he's much more of an expert than I am
+
+15:03.420 --> 15:09.580
+but rather than having any discussion at all he made a pretty weak statement about PCR
+
+15:09.580 --> 15:15.980
+which was simply that you know incompetent hands PCR is very accurate and so this is the kind of
+
+15:16.780 --> 15:22.060
+shell game that they keep playing and so he blocks me instead of explaining what he meant by that or
+
+15:22.060 --> 15:26.860
+addressing the fact that they didn't use nested primers or they addressed the fact that
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+15:27.660 --> 15:32.060
+that their primers that they did choose wouldn't be specific for one coronavirus we're not going
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+15:32.060 --> 15:37.820
+to talk anything about that we're just going to tell the whole world that everybody who doubts
+
+15:37.820 --> 15:43.260
+PCR is completely wrong because in competent hands PCR is highly specific
+
+15:46.220 --> 15:50.620
+cars don't hurt people because in competent hands cars are amazing
+
+15:52.220 --> 15:56.940
+kitchen knives don't hurt people because in competent hands they make great food
+
+15:57.660 --> 16:05.420
+I mean even even deer hunting rifles don't hurt people in competent hands they they set the table
+
+16:05.420 --> 16:14.700
+so it's a very disingenuous argument but it was used on Twitter as kind of a dunk and then also
+
+16:14.700 --> 16:21.660
+when I called him out on that he blocked me no discussion no rebuttal just block very similar
+
+16:22.060 --> 16:28.700
+just block very similar to Kevin McCurnan very similar to George Webb very similar to
+
+16:28.700 --> 16:33.180
+Robin Martinotti all the people who for whatever reason
+
+16:36.700 --> 16:42.300
+aren't interested in finding out how not certain they should be but instead just want to wield this
+
+16:42.300 --> 16:50.380
+false certainty as a clungent and it's unfortunate because this is how this illusion of consensus
+
+16:50.380 --> 16:56.940
+is created it's created by people who came out very early and were very certain about certain
+
+16:56.940 --> 17:05.180
+things think about how odd it is that some random Russian living in Canada was one of the first
+
+17:05.180 --> 17:14.140
+people to publish a blog on medium a relatively new web platform about the fear and cleavage site
+
+17:14.940 --> 17:20.860
+and so while medium was a pretty struggling platform before the pandemic it's become quite
+
+17:20.860 --> 17:27.020
+a strong little thing and more importantly Yuri Dagan made his debut about the fear and cleavage
+
+17:27.020 --> 17:33.580
+site very early in 2020 even though he's into I don't know youth genetics or something like that
+
+17:36.220 --> 17:41.020
+another person who came out very early about the fear and cleavage site was James Lyons Weiler a
+
+17:41.100 --> 17:53.100
+guy who wrote a an autism book with Sky Horse Publishing and it should be right there but I don't
+
+17:53.100 --> 18:05.900
+see it right now and I always never recognize the back cover of it it's there but I don't see it
+
+18:05.900 --> 18:13.580
+however we'll get it now and James Lyons Weiler also wrote a blog in February of 2020 where he
+
+18:13.580 --> 18:19.900
+had already identified the fear and cleavage site as a signal that the virus could be dangerous
+
+18:21.500 --> 18:26.060
+now I was very impressed and I remained very impressed with these two guys finding that
+
+18:26.060 --> 18:30.780
+identifying that attribute of the early sequence when it was first released
+
+18:31.660 --> 18:42.780
+because neither of them is virologists neither of them has any previous evidence in their CV before
+
+18:42.780 --> 18:53.180
+2020 of being particularly good at using a blast or working with genetic sequences and scanning them
+
+18:53.180 --> 19:00.460
+for fear and cleavage sites or enzyme sites so it's rather curious that both of them happened
+
+19:00.460 --> 19:10.860
+upon it almost in the same week and yeah it's strange but remember that this illusion of consensus
+
+19:10.860 --> 19:20.140
+was in my humble opinion started at the very very beginning once the plan was was to be executed
+
+19:20.940 --> 19:27.340
+the plan included the seeding of these two distinct narratives which is a narrative of
+
+19:27.340 --> 19:34.620
+a natural virus escaping from a wet market spreading around the world and a lab leak
+
+19:35.340 --> 19:43.260
+happening in the same city you know somewhere between 300 yards and three miles away whatever
+
+19:43.260 --> 19:49.180
+the right distance is maybe it's 10 miles away but the point is is the geographic location of
+
+19:49.260 --> 19:57.500
+this giant wet market with alien species in it and the five different coronavirus potential
+
+19:57.500 --> 20:03.980
+coronavirus laboratories that were there including the the BSL4 lab which really wouldn't have been
+
+20:03.980 --> 20:08.380
+used for coronavirus anyway which is kind of like a a red herring as well
+
+20:11.020 --> 20:16.620
+where we were set up from the very beginning for that argument to occur for that cover up to be
+
+20:17.580 --> 20:22.540
+argued about for it to be used by both sides really because China also used it
+
+20:28.380 --> 20:33.100
+and that illusion of consensus of this dangerous novel virus circulating the world
+
+20:34.060 --> 20:40.700
+and causing this this excess mortality over there that that's the illusion and that's the
+
+20:40.700 --> 20:47.660
+faith that nobody will question up until that the other thing that they won't question of course
+
+20:47.660 --> 20:54.300
+is the effectiveness of the mRNA the need to do it and the fact that beside the despite the fact
+
+20:54.300 --> 20:59.820
+that we rushed it despite the fact that it had all this contaminants in it it's been surprisingly
+
+20:59.820 --> 21:05.820
+safe that's going to be the argument that they're always going to make even after we get to the
+
+21:05.820 --> 21:09.660
+point where they admit that there's extra DNA in there because they rushed it and they used this
+
+21:09.660 --> 21:13.660
+horrible bacterial culture recombinant DNA method
+
+21:15.980 --> 21:17.420
+they're still going to point to the
+
+21:18.060 --> 21:25.900
+posity quote unquote of of adverse events and say that well yeah I guess we did and then that makes
+
+21:25.900 --> 21:31.980
+it even better the record we have right because that's not going to make them turn around and
+
+21:31.980 --> 21:38.060
+acknowledge the adverse events that they're already ignoring that they're already in denial of
+
+21:39.020 --> 21:44.060
+the DNA in there is not going to convince anybody to suddenly say oh there's is real now
+
+21:44.940 --> 21:51.580
+oh I get it and I think that's part of the trick that nobody is really seeing on our side
+
+21:52.460 --> 21:55.500
+we can fight for this DNA being in there all we want
+
+21:56.700 --> 22:01.180
+but that's not fighting for the fact that people were killed by remdesivir it's not fighting for
+
+22:01.180 --> 22:07.100
+the fact that people were killed by opiates and then rolled into this as excess deaths
+
+22:07.180 --> 22:14.380
+that that's not keeping track of the fact of who killed who when and why those people died
+
+22:17.820 --> 22:22.940
+that's actually keeping our eyes completely off the ball and focused on this crap
+
+22:26.780 --> 22:30.140
+because now what are we arguing about again we're arguing about well
+
+22:30.940 --> 22:36.220
+this group of people over here thinks that almost nobody has any adverse effects from the shots at all
+
+22:37.100 --> 22:41.740
+this group over here thinks that a bunch of people were hurt by the shot and continue to be
+
+22:41.740 --> 22:48.380
+hurt by the shot and this group over here says there's a bunch of DNA in it so what are we really
+
+22:48.380 --> 22:54.940
+changing even if we convince these people that there was DNA in it we're not even starting
+
+22:55.660 --> 23:02.060
+to try to convince them that the that the adverse events that we were already aware of are real
+
+23:02.060 --> 23:08.700
+because they don't think they are so i i don't think a lot of people see how we're really
+
+23:08.700 --> 23:13.660
+struggling inside of this plastic bag still we're not getting out we're inhaling it
+
+23:15.500 --> 23:19.260
+we're sucking in on a plastic bag right now we are not getting out of this
+
+23:20.060 --> 23:25.980
+if we're going to argue about the DNA because then what we're not talking about
+
+23:26.700 --> 23:30.620
+goes farther and farther and deeper and deeper into the cave
+
+23:32.140 --> 23:35.340
+and we keep wandering around following different flashlights
+
+23:37.260 --> 23:40.620
+and the hole to the sky was already right there it's just dark now
+
+23:45.980 --> 23:50.700
+it's dark now because everybody started to be quiet the the illusion of consensus
+
+23:51.340 --> 23:57.180
+for a time has been broken the illusion of consensus that we make fun of here with this
+
+23:57.180 --> 24:00.220
+so i'm going to escape from here and we'll come back to that later
+
+24:01.580 --> 24:07.580
+i got two videos for you to watch with me tonight the first one is really exciting because
+
+24:08.060 --> 24:27.740
+Josh Getsko was on was on Dr. Campbell's show that nurse Campbell guy talking about process one and process two of the Pfizer vaccine production and how the trials were done with
+
+24:28.380 --> 24:30.060
+with small batch
+
+24:32.860 --> 24:39.820
+small batch what was i calling it a craft brew beer and the large batch was done with miller light
+
+24:40.780 --> 24:46.940
+and so we we already knew this of course but now they're coming out with this as if it's a new story
+
+24:47.980 --> 24:51.500
+as if we didn't already know this is how they did it but it's nice that we're doing that
+
+24:52.220 --> 24:56.700
+and it's nice that Josh is getting some attention because he was of course on our show
+
+24:57.580 --> 25:02.460
+at least once you might remember him and i think he was on the show for bears but i don't remember
+
+25:02.460 --> 25:06.780
+what we talked about the second time if he was on a second time to take out any impurities after
+
+25:06.780 --> 25:12.140
+that PCR process was used again to create the template where then they you know they they use
+
+25:12.140 --> 25:18.140
+that to generate the mRNA in process two they use a different method to generate it started over
+
+25:20.060 --> 25:25.740
+so uh the Vax is super safe and effective and all that stuff John Campbell's got some here's some
+
+25:26.700 --> 25:31.980
+some concerning information about the the Vax that you didn't know
+
+25:33.020 --> 25:38.060
+get this did you know that there's two different batches there was the batches they tested
+
+25:38.060 --> 25:43.340
+and there's the batches they gave you and they weren't formulated the same did you know that
+
+25:43.340 --> 25:47.260
+watch this so you're you're an academic Josh at a Hebrew university but basically you've got
+
+25:47.260 --> 25:51.900
+links with the states as well though and um you've been studying some pretty interesting things
+
+25:51.980 --> 25:57.740
+and the first one we wanted to talk about is the um the different processes that we used in the
+
+25:57.740 --> 26:03.260
+production of the Pfizer vaccine now there seems to be process one and process two and this has
+
+26:03.260 --> 26:07.180
+got particular processes we used in the trials just give us a bit of background on that Josh if
+
+26:07.180 --> 26:14.140
+you don't mind please okay yeah sure so the key point here is that in the clinical trial that Pfizer
+
+26:14.140 --> 26:20.860
+BioNTech ran on their covid vaccine they used uh vaccine doses that were made with one manufacturing
+
+26:20.860 --> 26:26.380
+process what you referred to as process one but what was given to the public after the trial
+
+26:26.380 --> 26:32.380
+was not the same type of doses instead they used a different manufacturing process an upscale
+
+26:32.380 --> 26:37.740
+manufacturing process they call process two and that was what everybody received when they got
+
+26:37.740 --> 26:42.060
+vaccinated and now now the question for what's the difference between these two processes does it
+
+26:42.060 --> 26:46.940
+matter and and it probably does matter a lot a lot and I can walk you through some of the evidence
+
+26:47.100 --> 26:51.660
+of why we think it matters but just to give you sort of the general background and I don't know all
+
+26:51.660 --> 26:56.780
+of the technical details of this I know enough to kind of understand it but we all have learned
+
+26:56.780 --> 27:00.860
+about pieces so what do you need to do to make an mRNA vaccine you need to create you need to
+
+27:00.860 --> 27:06.620
+generate mRNA how do you do that well mRNA is like a copy of a part part of a strand of DNA so you
+
+27:06.620 --> 27:12.860
+need DNA as sort of your backbone template that you can then create mRNA off of that DNA okay
+
+27:12.940 --> 27:18.540
+so where do you get that DNA from well you can with the process one they were basically using
+
+27:18.540 --> 27:24.220
+a PCR process to duplicate DNA right that's what they do with with PCR they want to check do you
+
+27:24.220 --> 27:31.740
+have any of any of this remnant of DNA in your nose that we can say was you know covid was
+
+27:31.740 --> 27:35.900
+SARS-CoV-2 or whatever right so they replicated right that's the whole idea behind the PCR
+
+27:37.100 --> 27:41.420
+and it's relatively clean to do it that way and they were also used to your you know
+
+27:41.580 --> 27:46.700
+who does make my that's what they do with with PCR they want to check do you have any any of this
+
+27:48.300 --> 27:52.940
+remnant of DNA in your nose that we see you're not going to have a remnant of DNA you're going
+
+27:52.940 --> 27:57.580
+to have a remnant of RNA because there's no DNA involved in a coronavirus infection but I think
+
+27:57.580 --> 28:04.380
+that's just a slip up and just a mistake when you get tested by a PCR for a coronavirus you are
+
+28:04.380 --> 28:10.780
+tested for the RNA because the RNA is first exposed to reverse transcriptase that's why it's called
+
+28:10.780 --> 28:17.580
+RT-PCR reverse transcriptase polymerase chain reaction so in order to generate the DNA
+
+28:18.620 --> 28:26.540
+that's used to detect or sampled to detect the coronavirus you use reverse transcriptase to
+
+28:26.540 --> 28:33.020
+convert all the RNA of the sample or a lot of it into DNA and then you probe that DNA
+
+28:34.220 --> 28:40.220
+so reverse transcriptase is intimately involved in the PCR test for a coronavirus all the time
+
+28:40.780 --> 28:48.140
+said clear I hope that's very clear that enzymatic step is singular so if you miss the coronavirus
+
+28:48.140 --> 28:54.220
+in that enzymatic step then you you'll never find it and if you find one molecule of something
+
+28:54.220 --> 29:03.020
+that overlaps with your primers in that in that reverse transcriptase reaction then you will find
+
+29:04.220 --> 29:08.460
+so it's not like you're you're immediately sampling the swab when it comes out your first
+
+29:08.460 --> 29:16.780
+making DNA from the swabs RNA then you're doing PCR reverse transcriptase PCR
+
+29:17.500 --> 29:21.900
+you can say was you know covid was SARS-CoV-2 or whatever right so they replicated right that's
+
+29:21.900 --> 29:28.220
+the whole idea behind the PCR and it's relatively clean to do it that way and they were also using
+
+29:28.220 --> 29:36.140
+a very very high quality system using these magnetic these sort of magnetic beads to take out any
+
+29:36.220 --> 29:41.180
+impurities after that PCR process was used again to create the template where then they you know
+
+29:41.820 --> 29:48.380
+they use that to generate the mRNA in process two they use a different method to generate the
+
+29:48.380 --> 29:54.860
+DNA backbone okay where they basically have a DNA template that they put into this thing called a
+
+29:54.860 --> 30:02.540
+plasmid which is part of a bacteria okay and so when the bacteria where the plasmids can duplicate
+
+30:02.540 --> 30:07.180
+and then the bacteria also duplicates and it turns out to be a far more cost-effective
+
+30:07.740 --> 30:12.140
+scalable way you know you can just have the instead of like having to put in a PCR machine
+
+30:12.140 --> 30:15.500
+you just have these big bats of I don't know actually how big they are but you know you have
+
+30:15.500 --> 30:21.180
+these bats of bacteria growing and they can replicate very very quickly and then you basically you
+
+30:21.180 --> 30:26.060
+take the plasmids and you you take their DNA and you make it they make it linear instead of like
+
+30:26.060 --> 30:31.740
+wrapped up and then they use that to to generate the mRNA but after that point what they need to do
+
+30:31.820 --> 30:38.380
+is they have the plasmid DNA and they have the bacteria still in that goo and they need to clean
+
+30:38.380 --> 30:44.860
+that out and purify it okay so he's yeah I think he's getting the sequence a little bit wrong you
+
+30:44.860 --> 30:49.260
+got to take the you're going to lice the bacteria which means you're going to break the bacteria open
+
+30:50.060 --> 30:56.540
+you're going to extract the circular plasmid DNA from the bacteria then you're going to use
+
+30:56.540 --> 31:03.260
+enzymes to cut that plasmid into the piece that you want and I believe you will separate that out
+
+31:03.260 --> 31:12.060
+first before you start making your RNA and it's the separation of the spike DNA that you want to
+
+31:12.060 --> 31:21.820
+transcribe into RNA that you have to separate from the DNA that was part of the of the plasmid which
+
+31:21.820 --> 31:28.940
+allowed it to efficiently be replicated by the bacteria which includes this SV40 promoter series
+
+31:28.940 --> 31:38.300
+and etc so you're separating two pieces of DNA from one another I believe because otherwise if
+
+31:38.300 --> 31:43.820
+you turn the whole thing into RNA first then you'd also have RNA for the SV40 that you would need to
+
+31:43.820 --> 31:50.380
+separate from the RNA of the spike and that would be crazy I can't that's that's got to be wrong
+
+31:51.340 --> 31:56.140
+so first you're going to take the plasmid you're going to cut your piece of interest out
+
+31:57.020 --> 32:02.460
+and then the trick is you have to separate the piece of interest from all of this stuff which was
+
+32:02.460 --> 32:07.420
+necessary to be there in order for the plasmid to efficiently replicate in the bacteria
+
+32:09.100 --> 32:14.700
+and so it's that separation that can't go very well because it's DNA from DNA and it's different
+
+32:14.700 --> 32:24.220
+weights and so it's never going to be perfect I guess but I could be wrong I'm happy to be
+
+32:24.220 --> 32:29.500
+corrected if somebody in the chat wants to correct me that's fine that's where they seem to have
+
+32:29.500 --> 32:34.060
+done a terrible job oh and I don't know if you've been following any of the revelations that are
+
+32:34.060 --> 32:37.820
+coming out where more and more researchers around the world are replicating this finding
+
+32:38.540 --> 32:46.220
+that there are high levels of this plasmid DNA remnants in the vials of the Pfizer vaccine that
+
+32:46.220 --> 32:51.900
+have been tested in addition to that we know from Pfizer's own documents that they've submitted to
+
+32:51.900 --> 32:59.740
+various regulatory agencies that there's there's some residual lipopolysaccharide the otherwise known
+
+32:59.740 --> 33:05.260
+as endotoxin this is the membrane so what is the bacteria that they use for you know duplicating
+
+33:05.260 --> 33:11.660
+this is E. coli bacteria and which is a type of bacteria that's known as gram-negative bacteria
+
+33:11.660 --> 33:17.260
+and the membranes of gram-negative bacteria are highly inflammatory they're called endotoxin for
+
+33:17.260 --> 33:25.580
+a reason and so there are higher levels of this endotoxin in the process to vials and again this
+
+33:25.580 --> 33:33.340
+is based on what we know from Pfizer's own filings to the regulator. I just see if I've got this right
+
+33:33.340 --> 33:38.620
+so far Joshua we just run this past you so the process one they synthesize the DNA
+
+33:40.140 --> 33:45.180
+I assume synthesize it in the right bases in the right order and then they multiply the amount
+
+33:45.180 --> 33:50.140
+of DNA with a PCR process now I'm not a forensic specialist but I think we probably do this in
+
+33:50.140 --> 33:54.220
+in forensics where there's a tiny amount of DNA found at a crime scene for example or in an
+
+33:54.220 --> 33:58.300
+archaeological specimen which is a fascinating field and they're able to multiply up the amount
+
+33:58.300 --> 34:02.780
+of DNA so they've got enough to sort of be able to recognize it so they use this duplication process
+
+34:02.780 --> 34:06.540
+and that PCR process it's the same as you used in testing where you duplicate the amount of RNA
+
+34:06.540 --> 34:10.380
+that's present and of course there's a debate about that and how much it should be duplicated
+
+34:10.380 --> 34:14.620
+and whether that can give rise to false positive results of course but leaving that aside so that
+
+34:14.620 --> 34:19.260
+here the increase the amount of DNA you use that DNA to make the RNA so the DNA is the code to make
+
+34:19.260 --> 34:25.260
+the RNA so it's DNA makes RNA makes proteins that is the way it goes in biology and that's trial
+
+34:25.260 --> 34:30.220
+process one but trial process two sounds a bit more like making beer to me and so you can hear
+
+34:30.220 --> 34:36.780
+right that the process one versus process two process one can still have spike DNA in it
+
+34:39.180 --> 34:45.100
+it just won't have the the promoter series and this other things that are the the antibody
+
+34:45.100 --> 34:51.420
+biotic resistance cassette that would be present in the plasmid DNA used in the bacterial culture
+
+34:51.420 --> 34:58.700
+version of the grow-up but it could still have spike DNA and that's very likely just because
+
+34:58.780 --> 35:04.140
+again for the same reasons it's hard for them to separate these completely even if they digested
+
+35:04.140 --> 35:11.260
+them then there's going to be fragments of spike DNA in the original shot and so yeah but there
+
+35:11.260 --> 35:15.820
+won't be the the possibility of there being any bacterial components which there is of course
+
+35:15.820 --> 35:20.940
+in process two or batch two or whatever they're calling it um you uh you push it put it all in
+
+35:20.940 --> 35:25.900
+some big vat instead of using yeast they use bacterium e coli bacteria we believe
+
+35:27.820 --> 35:31.820
+oh we know we know we know a lot about their manufacturing method and a lot of it came through
+
+35:31.820 --> 35:37.340
+the ema data breach uh other other writings about it there's publications we we know
+
+35:38.620 --> 35:42.940
+that's good so the process to you kind of make a batch now a plasmid is basically a way for
+
+35:42.940 --> 35:46.380
+transferring genetic material from one bacterium to another as far as i understand it i think
+
+35:46.460 --> 35:50.700
+that's right yeah yeah so so the use in this kind of way the DNA is in the plasmid
+
+35:51.420 --> 35:55.260
+and uh that means you've got bacterial components there as well and we don't want
+
+35:56.140 --> 36:01.500
+DNA from the plasmid and we don't want other things like like like bits of cell membrane
+
+36:01.500 --> 36:06.220
+left over right um i would imagine if you gave if you did have cell membrane in any injection
+
+36:06.220 --> 36:09.740
+we're not saying the cell membrane in this but if you did have gamma negative cell cell membrane
+
+36:09.740 --> 36:13.260
+in the injection that will make you feel pretty rough for a period of time it could and it's
+
+36:13.340 --> 36:18.780
+toxic about that later how that might be linked to some of the some of the uh adverse events that
+
+36:18.780 --> 36:24.460
+came up and have been um you know so they're saying that this is so he's just said
+
+36:25.740 --> 36:30.940
+that there's correct me if i'm wrong what i'm hearing is that he said that the battery totally
+
+36:30.940 --> 36:37.180
+different processes for me he also said that the bacterial components could also contribute to
+
+36:37.180 --> 36:42.780
+adverse events so here we go almost throwing another oh we are we're throwing another possibility
+
+36:42.780 --> 36:48.540
+log on the fire and that's fine i'm not i don't have anything i don't have any problem with that
+
+36:49.820 --> 36:55.420
+i just don't want anybody to get the idea that all of these these things can be corrected because
+
+36:55.420 --> 37:02.860
+at the end of the day you're still left with transfection the best possible lipid nanoparticle
+
+37:02.860 --> 37:11.420
+transfection with the best uniform lipid nanoparticle size the best uniform lipid nanoparticle
+
+37:11.420 --> 37:19.180
+concentration of RNA the best purity of RNA transcript the best purity with the least amount of
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+37:20.060 --> 37:25.500
+any contamination would still result in the expression of a foreign protein throughout
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+37:25.500 --> 37:30.300
+your body and anywhere it does that you will be challenging your immune system to clear that
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+37:30.300 --> 37:38.860
+protein by killing your own cells without causing autoimmunity and that is not a game of Russian
+
+37:38.860 --> 37:45.740
+roulette that you can play forever it's just not and anybody who's gotten away with four or five shots
+
+37:48.540 --> 37:54.220
+you know maybe they got lucky and got a placebo maybe they got lucky and it hasn't manifested
+
+37:54.220 --> 38:01.980
+itself yet maybe they got lucky some other way but i think statistically speaking this is just
+
+38:02.060 --> 38:09.340
+gonna it's gonna be overwhelming at some point my neighbor right now is is has been in bed for
+
+38:09.340 --> 38:14.380
+a couple days and she's apparently as sick as she's ever been in her life thank goodness they
+
+38:14.380 --> 38:19.340
+didn't vaccinate their children but they are vaccinated and they are worried because they
+
+38:19.340 --> 38:24.700
+tested it it's covid and she's isolating in the whole nine yards but it's never dawned on them
+
+38:24.700 --> 38:28.860
+that why doesn't anybody else in their house get sick with this extremely dangerous virus
+
+38:29.100 --> 38:33.980
+is it really possible that the isolation in the bedroom is sufficient
+
+38:35.820 --> 38:40.220
+i thought the fear and cleavage site made it the most infectious virus in the history of mankind
+
+38:42.380 --> 38:47.420
+and yet somehow if you just close the door and everything's good
+
+38:49.260 --> 38:54.300
+and people are are very sick i don't know why they are very sick but they apparently are very
+
+38:54.380 --> 39:00.380
+sick and none of them not one of them is interested in questioning the possibility that maybe the
+
+39:00.380 --> 39:08.620
+last injected medication designed to augment my immune system has made my my immune system worse
+
+39:09.260 --> 39:13.740
+has made my immune system prone to overreaction has made my immune system vulnerable
+
+39:14.700 --> 39:19.180
+all three of those don't even have to be mutually exclusive it could be additive
+
+39:20.060 --> 39:27.820
+it's not the contaminants ladies and gentlemen although it could be in addition to
+
+39:31.180 --> 39:35.660
+but it would be very much like saying you know those multicolored sprinkles on your
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+39:36.620 --> 39:42.300
+on your on your five scoop ice cream sunday with a shell of chocolate on it
+
+39:42.300 --> 39:45.820
+those multicolored sprinkles have some pretty bad coloration in them
+
+39:46.700 --> 39:53.580
+you know blue red and i'm sorry red five and and and four blue those are really toxic
+
+39:54.780 --> 39:57.180
+those are really toxic colors you shouldn't eat those
+
+39:59.340 --> 40:03.900
+but you go ahead and keep eating three scoops of ice cream with chocolate all over them but
+
+40:03.900 --> 40:06.780
+that was that that artificial colors man those are real bad
+
+40:07.100 --> 40:17.100
+no the the bad habit is the the eating ice cream three times a day the bad habit is having a
+
+40:17.100 --> 40:22.540
+pack of cigarettes the the bad idea is transfecting yourself now if the
+
+40:22.540 --> 40:25.980
+transfection also turns out to have crap in it well yeah it's even worse
+
+40:27.740 --> 40:32.300
+if your cigarette turns out to have mold in it yeah that's even worse if your cigarette has
+
+40:33.260 --> 40:35.580
+has formaldehyde in it yeah that's even worse
+
+40:38.940 --> 40:43.020
+if the heroin you bought on the street is also contaminated with something yeah that's
+
+40:43.020 --> 40:48.140
+even worse and if you took a transfection and it's got some bacterial
+
+40:48.700 --> 40:53.100
+cell wall in it or it's got some bacterial plasmid and that's even worse
+
+40:56.620 --> 40:58.940
+but that's the way you need to think about it it's even worse
+
+40:59.660 --> 41:05.900
+this isn't why this makes it even worse
+
+41:08.140 --> 41:14.300
+Jimmy Dorr if you're watching this show this isn't why there are there are
+
+41:15.500 --> 41:17.820
+adverse events this makes it worse
+
+41:19.100 --> 41:24.220
+king the vaccine the one that they tested and then the one that they gave you yeah
+
+41:24.220 --> 41:28.220
+it's not the same yeah and the way we know this is from Pfizer's own data yeah
+
+41:28.780 --> 41:35.420
+and now he's just said that this is being linked to adverse events yeah and it seems that they're
+
+41:35.420 --> 41:40.620
+doing this other way because it's more expedient it's cheaper yeah even though it's going to have
+
+41:40.620 --> 41:46.220
+more adverse effect if their bottom line goes up and it's just quicker cheaper and they can do it
+
+41:46.220 --> 41:51.260
+that way I mean that's what I'm I think well insinuating I think that's what he's saying yeah
+
+41:51.260 --> 41:56.460
+but of course the FDA said it's like these guys aren't aware that in the original Pfizer
+
+41:56.460 --> 42:01.100
+trial 20 people died in the treated group and only 14 died in the untreated group
+
+42:07.660 --> 42:15.500
+as that the vaccine is safe and effective Kurt and it will keep you from being hospitalized sick
+
+42:15.500 --> 42:20.540
+or deaf and it's fantastic it's super safe so let's listen well he has a little bit more to say now
+
+42:20.540 --> 42:26.060
+he's talking about how it's connected to adverse events written up in the mainstream academic
+
+42:26.060 --> 42:32.460
+press that we didn't see hardly at all in the trials so we can talk about that later indeed
+
+42:32.460 --> 42:37.740
+now have I got that summary roughly right Josh is that that summary exactly right and okay
+
+42:37.740 --> 42:42.620
+before we get past this I want to make this point very clear is that yeah when you're when
+
+42:42.620 --> 42:50.220
+you're making a biological medical product or biologic the process is crucial in fact some with
+
+42:50.220 --> 42:56.300
+some people say the process is the product because you're dealing with these very complex
+
+42:56.300 --> 43:02.380
+you know the process is the product is actually a very pertinent statement here because as Peter
+
+43:02.380 --> 43:07.260
+McCullough so aptly pointed out in his appearance on my stream when he was discussing with Denny
+
+43:07.260 --> 43:14.460
+Rancour and we were talking about briefly at the end about the Nobel Prize it's ridiculous for anyone
+
+43:14.460 --> 43:20.380
+to claim that they invented this mRNA technology because in order to produce
+
+43:21.980 --> 43:27.500
+the transfection product which a lot of people are lackadaisically calling a vaccine
+
+43:28.620 --> 43:37.740
+in order to produce the transfection product thousands of patented processes ideas devices
+
+43:38.620 --> 43:45.660
+solutions algorithms were involved in the production of these transfection products
+
+43:47.180 --> 43:51.340
+and so it's really ridiculous to claim that well you know pseudo-uridine was the idea
+
+43:52.780 --> 43:59.500
+or codon optimization was the idea because again it's not it was pseudo-uridine is what they said
+
+43:59.500 --> 44:06.300
+was the idea and that's what gave them the Nobel Prize but that's not what enabled the production
+
+44:06.380 --> 44:12.220
+of a billion doses and that was really what what Peter was trying to say and maybe alluding
+
+44:12.220 --> 44:18.300
+to the fact that really we needed to pay attention to what we really claimed to have done
+
+44:19.180 --> 44:27.020
+which is make billions of doses of a previously non-existing product that contains lipid nanoparticles
+
+44:27.020 --> 44:36.220
+of a particular size and an RNA of a particular claimed purity and if that's really not what they
+
+44:36.300 --> 44:41.500
+did that's not what they manufactured or they took shortcuts that they knew
+
+44:42.460 --> 44:47.420
+would lead to something that was not that then maybe we have some ground to stand on
+
+44:50.460 --> 44:56.780
+chemical interactions large molecules i'll give you an example have you ever heard of the cutter
+
+44:56.780 --> 45:02.700
+incident no based on the cutter incident and this there was a book written by one of the you
+
+45:02.700 --> 45:07.580
+know high priest effect how can he not know about the cutter incident that's really weird
+
+45:09.180 --> 45:09.500
+wow
+
+45:12.300 --> 45:15.180
+john camel doesn't know about the cutter incident wow
+
+45:15.740 --> 45:21.100
+technology in the u.s. paul off it on this topic but what happened the cutter incident happened
+
+45:21.100 --> 45:26.860
+with the original polio vaccines in the 1950s so jones salt you know created this polio vaccine
+
+45:26.860 --> 45:31.900
+they ran a trial on about two million children it was very successful and so then they turned it
+
+45:31.900 --> 45:35.580
+over to a few different labs and they said okay now we need to make a bunch of this stuff
+
+45:35.580 --> 45:39.820
+but they didn't provide them with the precise directions on how to exactly replicate
+
+45:39.820 --> 45:45.500
+salt's process can you believe that so i know kurt brought this up on the show originally
+
+45:45.500 --> 45:49.340
+that's how i first found out about this the first batches of the polio vaccine
+
+45:50.300 --> 45:56.380
+not good so go ahead so what happened in the cutter laboratory they were making vaccines that
+
+45:56.460 --> 46:02.380
+had live polio virus and when they injected them into kids they got polio there were over 200,000
+
+46:02.380 --> 46:08.940
+kids who got a short-lived polio a few hundred who got permanent polio and a few if you could
+
+46:08.940 --> 46:14.300
+actually die this is not conspiracy theory this is not anti-vax mythology you know this is this
+
+46:14.300 --> 46:21.100
+is accepted history and one of the key lessons that was learned from that is yeah the guy in the
+
+46:21.180 --> 46:27.980
+blue shirt is being interviewed by john campbell and and jimmy dor is showing the interview of
+
+46:27.980 --> 46:35.820
+john campbell's youtube video on his youtube show so this is actually like some kind of multi-dimensional
+
+46:35.820 --> 46:41.260
+stream because i'm streaming somebody who's streaming someone else's youtube video and so
+
+46:41.260 --> 46:47.500
+i'm watching someone else watch someone else's youtube video and if you can't handle that and you
+
+46:47.580 --> 46:52.780
+need i'm just teasing i was going to say something tough i'm just teasing you but that's what's
+
+46:52.780 --> 46:56.220
+happening that's why you're confused and you're dealing with something complicated like a
+
+46:56.220 --> 47:02.540
+vaccine a biological drug you need to be very precise about the method and once you change the
+
+47:02.540 --> 47:06.780
+method you change the product and you can't just assume that it's going to have the same effect
+
+47:07.500 --> 47:13.660
+on people so you need to do another uh clinical trial on your new product it's not the same product
+
+47:14.220 --> 47:19.020
+now we've talked about this many times on stream i'd just like to remind you that the analogy that
+
+47:19.020 --> 47:25.580
+i've used a few times that you might remember with a ding is um the idea that your grandma or in my
+
+47:25.580 --> 47:33.340
+case my wife makes the most fantastic apple pie with just the hint of lemon the crust is great
+
+47:33.340 --> 47:41.260
+everything is magnificent but if you just decided okay let's make 10 000 of those it's not as simple
+
+47:41.340 --> 47:48.300
+as saying okay let's make 10 000 of those you can't just make them one by one you're going to scale
+
+47:48.300 --> 47:56.060
+things up and you can imagine that very quickly my wife or whoever is going to take the recipe
+
+47:56.060 --> 48:02.540
+from my wife is going to have a problem on their hands understanding how to translate this small
+
+48:02.540 --> 48:11.740
+scale small batch boutique pie that can go wrong occasionally into something that we can make at
+
+48:11.740 --> 48:17.900
+scale the way that you buy the ingredients the way that you mix them how do you mix them how do you
+
+48:17.900 --> 48:22.060
+get the pies out where do you go with them how do you package them how do you store them how do you
+
+48:22.060 --> 48:28.940
+get them around the country is all very different then come over to my house and have a pie it's
+
+48:28.940 --> 48:36.060
+very different than come to my lab and i'll make you nanograms of RNA and we can test it out
+
+48:38.380 --> 48:43.740
+and that we have talked about many times even Vincent racking yellows talked about that but he's
+
+48:43.740 --> 48:49.500
+talked about it in a very wow isn't that crazy that they went from nanograms to kilograms
+
+48:49.820 --> 48:59.340
+nanograms to kilograms is is closer to one apple pie to 500 000 apple pies
+
+49:01.580 --> 49:08.940
+think about that i mean 10 000 pies already sounded quite absurd but we're talking about going from
+
+49:08.940 --> 49:18.540
+real craft brewery you know like like a barista contest and you know i was about to show you
+
+49:18.620 --> 49:25.100
+something dumb there a barista contest and you know here's your cup of coffee sir
+
+49:27.340 --> 49:33.100
+i taste the beans are from south america and you've triple done whatever bing bang boom with the
+
+49:33.100 --> 49:36.620
+with mushrooms and stuff wow this is the best cup of coffee i've ever had
+
+49:37.420 --> 49:43.020
+now let's go open a a franchise in in in 30 cities next week
+
+49:43.900 --> 49:49.420
+it doesn't work and so now that is a problem
+
+49:50.940 --> 49:57.980
+love watch that just watch out because what that suggests is is that wait so if my doctor
+
+49:57.980 --> 50:04.300
+has a little RNA machine then he could make RNA for me and it would be better if we just made
+
+50:04.300 --> 50:09.500
+smaller batches it would be better you mean we could make it even safer than it was because
+
+50:09.500 --> 50:15.100
+the tv said it was safe i don't know anybody that's really hurt i just can't breathe anymore and
+
+50:15.100 --> 50:21.180
+i get sick a lot but i'm not hurt by i mean you see where this goes you see how enticing it is
+
+50:21.740 --> 50:29.660
+to think again mystery solved they rushed it mystery solved it's the dna mystery solved it's
+
+50:29.660 --> 50:38.140
+the endotoxin careful ladies and gentlemen be careful so that's what will end it so i don't
+
+50:38.140 --> 50:42.540
+know how much i'm allowed to say but i'm just going to show what john campbells showed
+
+50:44.380 --> 50:50.220
+next one is uh quite fun it's 30 minutes i'm going to speed it up a little bit but i won't speed
+
+50:50.220 --> 51:01.020
+it up very much because there is an accent in the show so let's see here i think i'm going to enjoy
+
+51:01.100 --> 51:06.220
+this i haven't watched it but i'm excited it's more scooby-doo business
+
+51:11.100 --> 51:15.820
+it's also on a balance for me can you imagine internet platforms like google search twitter and
+
+51:15.820 --> 51:21.180
+google translate being used to unravel the mystery behind the origins of sasco v2 a crack team of
+
+51:21.180 --> 51:26.460
+data scientists mathematicians engineers and biologists did exactly that to amass evidence
+
+51:26.460 --> 51:31.020
+that has now compelled the world to set up and take notice of the hypothesis that sasco v2
+
+51:31.020 --> 51:36.460
+the virus that causes covid-19 is this too fast or is it okay she's she's already pretty fast but
+
+51:36.460 --> 51:42.060
+it'll be all right i think 19 may have emerged from a lab in china the team calls itself drastic
+
+51:42.060 --> 51:46.860
+it is an informal amalgam of experts and researchers from across the world who painstakingly pieced
+
+51:46.860 --> 51:51.820
+together various strands of data your mouse ready that lab origin of the virus is a plausible
+
+51:52.780 --> 51:56.620
+watch my whole family is going to be on discoveries made by drastic a significant
+
+51:56.620 --> 52:01.580
+in unraveling the mystery behind the origins of sasco v2 my whole family is going to be on indian
+
+52:01.580 --> 52:04.540
+television holy crap
+
+52:08.860 --> 52:14.620
+more than 20 researchers there it is oh my gosh look it's my whole family on indian television
+
+52:14.780 --> 52:22.300
+oh dear goodness what was i thinking investigating covid-19 what a dumb twitter handle picture
+
+52:29.820 --> 52:33.660
+that's not right but steam members had been researching the origins of covid-19
+
+52:33.660 --> 52:38.300
+okay maybe they had been researching the origins so this is yuri dagan this is the
+
+52:38.620 --> 52:48.860
+the russian living in canada who published with rosza ro rosana sogretto
+
+52:50.060 --> 52:55.660
+um and they published a paper about the fear and cleavage site this is mona and her husband who
+
+52:57.100 --> 53:02.780
+published the paper about the moyang mine and the fact that ratg 13 the virus which
+
+53:03.340 --> 53:09.340
+shengli she reported as being the closest relative to sars covid-19 and their database
+
+53:09.340 --> 53:18.700
+was actually also previously published as a virus with the number 491 i believe rs 491
+
+53:19.260 --> 53:26.460
+bat corona virus rs 491 and then this is a french researcher who actually is the one that
+
+53:27.420 --> 53:32.300
+tucker carlson said had found a drastic and again i would argue that he joined around the
+
+53:32.300 --> 53:38.140
+same time that charles rixie joined maybe before charles rixie but not much before
+
+53:41.180 --> 53:47.100
+and so was definitely not part of the original drastic team at all and so that's that should
+
+53:47.100 --> 53:52.460
+be kept clear before they joined the group then they started working with each other informally
+
+53:52.540 --> 53:59.420
+luigi was part of the original group and there's the real one that's the guy who started it all
+
+53:59.420 --> 54:07.660
+right billy boston and so there's yuri there's rosana is his co-author andre guffinette is a
+
+54:07.660 --> 54:11.980
+md from belgium and he actually reviewed a couple of the papers that i also reviewed i think he
+
+54:11.980 --> 54:19.820
+reviewed mona's paper with me and he also reviewed yuri's paper with me um let's see day
+
+54:20.140 --> 54:25.020
+was some guy i think who lives in australia and he's got a lot of seems like he's got a lot of
+
+54:25.020 --> 54:32.620
+knowledge about about the sequences the seeker is the guy who found the phd thesis and the master's
+
+54:32.620 --> 54:41.260
+thesis in chinese about the minors that got sick and luan um yeah so there's a few people to mention
+
+54:41.260 --> 54:47.820
+see where we go here after joining there's me again down there he's drastic they worked as a
+
+54:47.820 --> 54:53.500
+team sharpening each other's insights and connecting the dots to demystify so luigi warn is a guy who
+
+54:53.500 --> 55:01.900
+did um a postdoc with not steven ben cell but the other guy with the funny glasses um and so luigi
+
+55:01.900 --> 55:10.380
+warn was actually also involved in the sort of figuring out that sudo yuridine worked here i'm
+
+55:10.460 --> 55:16.300
+not really sure what else he did but he definitely was involved in some of the research um at a
+
+55:16.300 --> 55:22.940
+crucial time since of covid-19 this website hosts the research work of these twitter detectives
+
+55:22.940 --> 55:29.260
+on the origins of covid-19 but these researchers are not the only contributors of this uh i believe
+
+55:29.260 --> 55:36.540
+that this website was actually really just started about a month or so after charles rixie joined
+
+55:36.540 --> 55:45.100
+and a month or so after antonio i think joined francisco was very early in coronavirus movie was
+
+55:45.100 --> 55:54.060
+very early in kevin mck h was very early in um kevin mck h is a really interesting fella that i
+
+55:54.060 --> 56:01.580
+you know i could talk about but then i'd probably get killed on the origins of covid-19 but these
+
+56:01.660 --> 56:06.460
+researchers are not the only contributors of drastic many of its members prefer to operate
+
+56:06.460 --> 56:13.100
+anonymously some of the drastic team members like india based scientists so prefer to operate
+
+56:13.100 --> 56:17.340
+anonymously was one of the reasons why i didn't like working with them and i was certainly very
+
+56:17.340 --> 56:20.620
+upset when they kind of basically asked me to leave because i wanted to talk about the
+
+56:20.620 --> 56:26.220
+transfection but then i asked ever after asking me to leave they kept me in the group kind of
+
+56:26.220 --> 56:32.300
+sort of i'm still on their web page etc but when you click on that web page i could never get
+
+56:32.300 --> 56:39.660
+billy to put any links to my channels on there or to my twitter on there which is really strange
+
+56:39.660 --> 56:44.780
+right i guess my twitter probably was linked but i couldn't get him to link to my youtube or to my
+
+56:44.780 --> 56:51.660
+review or to to my twitch and at one point i was told that that's because the person that ran
+
+56:51.740 --> 56:57.820
+that website was actually in empt in tie land and they couldn't get in touch with them right now
+
+56:57.820 --> 57:01.660
+but as soon as we get in touch with them we'll put all your links up and they're not up
+
+57:03.340 --> 57:09.020
+so this is mona i think she's pretty good person at least in so far as what she's done she's pushed
+
+57:09.020 --> 57:15.660
+this you know idea that the coronavirus sequences like this were found in a bat cave and it was a
+
+57:15.660 --> 57:20.940
+cave that they've been interested ever since they found it ever since these three guys got sick
+
+57:20.940 --> 57:27.260
+and died apparently couple dr monali rahalkar and dr rahul bahulikar have been vocal about their
+
+57:27.260 --> 57:33.500
+findings in this article published on thirteenth june 2021 in an india based news magazine the week
+
+57:33.500 --> 57:37.980
+the scientists duo from pune described their discoveries that can help in clearing the haze
+
+57:37.980 --> 57:43.020
+around the origins of the virus they write that as a scientific couple they were intrigued by the
+
+57:43.020 --> 57:48.940
+virus and started an online expedition at the end of march 2020 the journey led them to discover
+
+57:49.020 --> 57:53.100
+the link between a copper mine in china at the nearest relative of sars kovitu
+
+57:54.540 --> 58:00.380
+i rahul my husband we started this uh investigation or searching for kovit 19 origins
+
+58:00.380 --> 58:06.300
+last year uh we came across several papers and the two of them actually said that the kovit 19
+
+58:06.300 --> 58:10.620
+was uh you know having a zoonotic origin these papers were published in lancet and nature
+
+58:10.620 --> 58:14.860
+medicine but we were not completely convinced by these papers reading some more papers we found
+
+58:14.940 --> 58:18.380
+that there was a very interesting one published uh from north carotina university
+
+58:18.380 --> 58:23.100
+which talked about chimeric karuna viruses so we thought that oh okay such things can also happen
+
+58:23.100 --> 58:27.660
+and this paper was written by vinik menachari or the first author and you will be very interested
+
+58:27.660 --> 58:34.620
+to know that uh she's angry the um bat woman or the uh center for uh uh emerging diseases head had
+
+58:34.620 --> 58:39.820
+also co-authored this paper the scientist couple further write about china's foremost coronavirus
+
+58:40.140 --> 58:45.500
+institute housing one of the world's largest elections of bat samples and bat virus trains
+
+58:45.500 --> 58:50.140
+the vuhan institute of virology and its lead researcher she zengli who was among the first
+
+58:50.140 --> 58:55.340
+to identify horseshoe bats as national reservoirs for sars kov the virus that sparked an outbreak
+
+58:55.340 --> 59:00.940
+in 2002 they refer to this article in us based magazine scientific american published on eleventh
+
+59:00.940 --> 59:07.180
+march 2020 carrying statements by she zengli referring to a 2012 incident the article reads
+
+59:07.180 --> 59:11.660
+she's team had been called in to investigate the virus profile of her mind shaft in unence
+
+59:11.660 --> 59:16.460
+mountain and smuji and county the six miners suffered from pneumonia like diseases and to
+
+59:16.460 --> 59:21.980
+died after sampling the cave for one year the researchers discovered a diverse group of coronaviruses
+
+59:21.980 --> 59:27.260
+in six bat species in many cases multiple viral strains had infected a single animal
+
+59:27.260 --> 59:33.180
+turning it into a flying factory for new viruses the article for this a flying factory defined
+
+59:33.180 --> 59:43.580
+by multiple positive PCR tests flying factory that's it nothing more multiple s proteins multiple
+
+59:43.580 --> 59:49.340
+and proteins meant a flying factory that's it that's all they could find PCR that's it said
+
+59:49.340 --> 59:54.460
+the genomic sequence of the virus eventually named sars kov 2 was 96 percent identical to
+
+59:54.460 --> 59:59.820
+that of a coronavirus the researchers had identified in horseshoe bats in uni and of course 96 percent
+
+59:59.900 --> 01:00:06.940
+identical means that the vast majority of identified t cell epitopes are identical to previous coronaviruses
+
+01:00:07.740 --> 01:00:14.940
+related to it from years ago that's significant because it kind of tells you how much coronavirus
+
+01:00:14.940 --> 01:00:20.940
+really changes and how much of the coronavirus genome is either stagnant or unknown or undescribed
+
+01:00:20.940 --> 01:00:26.140
+or assumed but you can't have it both ways
+
+01:00:27.900 --> 01:00:33.260
+significantly the article did not specify the name of the 2012 virus the indian scientific couple
+
+01:00:33.260 --> 01:00:39.500
+referred to another article published in nature on third february 2020 and co-authored by she zengli
+
+01:00:39.500 --> 01:00:45.500
+which mentions that rat g13 found a new non-probins was 96.2 percent similar and the closest relative
+
+01:00:45.580 --> 01:00:50.940
+of sars kov 2 but this is what she zengli did not disclose to readers of scientific american
+
+01:00:50.940 --> 01:00:59.020
+and nature she zengli the bad woman did not reveal that this rat g13 had an older name and this
+
+01:00:59.020 --> 01:01:05.340
+older name was uh bt kov 491 we found this in a pre-print by a doctor dean benston and it was
+
+01:01:05.340 --> 01:01:11.900
+available on the internet in april 2021 uh this was the second law which we uh found uh in scientific
+
+01:01:12.460 --> 01:01:17.660
+she zengli was also talking about this mojang mine shop which uh where there was an incident uh
+
+01:01:17.660 --> 01:01:22.700
+where uh two of the six miners had died in a pneumonia like illness but she had not revealed
+
+01:01:22.700 --> 01:01:28.380
+that uh she got the rat g13 from this mine not to confirm that this particular mine was the same
+
+01:01:28.380 --> 01:01:34.060
+we were searching for again and on uh there was a paper in the very famous journal science
+
+01:01:34.060 --> 01:01:38.620
+which confirmed that uh they had also written about this incident and this confirmed that
+
+01:01:38.780 --> 01:01:44.540
+this was the same mine the mine shop in mojang uh where three miners had died due to a pneumonia
+
+01:01:44.540 --> 01:01:50.940
+like illness and uh the mine was the same where rat g13 sample was picked up by she zengli
+
+01:01:51.660 --> 01:01:56.140
+coincidentally at least three other researchers reached the same conclusions independently
+
+01:01:56.140 --> 01:01:57.100
+around the same time
+
+01:02:00.300 --> 01:02:05.420
+us based scientist and entrepreneur hugi baron ockland based engineer and data scientist
+
+01:02:05.420 --> 01:02:10.460
+gels demenov and russian canadian biotype entrepreneur eury diggin all of whom were among
+
+01:02:10.460 --> 01:02:16.380
+the founding members of drastic later in this article public see later this is not right i
+
+01:02:16.380 --> 01:02:25.820
+think it's really weird um i feel like this is out of order but maybe i'm wrong so i'm not
+
+01:02:25.820 --> 01:02:37.420
+gonna commit to it yet but they definitely found the phd and master's thesis when drastic
+
+01:02:37.420 --> 01:02:49.660
+was already formed and i'm pretty sure they also figured out rat g13 when drastic was already
+
+01:02:49.660 --> 01:02:52.860
+formed so i feel like this narrative is wrong but i don't know
+
+01:02:53.020 --> 01:02:58.220
+in an american online publishing platform medium on 22nd april 2020 you reported out
+
+01:02:58.220 --> 01:03:02.220
+yes on 22nd april 2020 if that's his first one
+
+01:03:03.980 --> 01:03:09.340
+i don't think that though she knew about rat g13 she only disclosed it in january 2020
+
+01:03:09.340 --> 01:03:15.260
+when i wrote the medium article in april i was already kind of suspicious at whether the ritg
+
+01:03:15.260 --> 01:03:20.060
+sample was collected from the same spot as this four nine and one fragment they were both listed
+
+01:03:20.060 --> 01:03:25.260
+as coming from unan four nine one was uh more detailed coming from the small jiang mine and
+
+01:03:25.260 --> 01:03:31.260
+ritg 13 is actually was very broadly described as coming from the puer city autonomous region
+
+01:03:31.260 --> 01:03:35.260
+and so that raised suspicion because you know the genomic fragment match hundred percent
+
+01:03:35.260 --> 01:03:38.860
+and this was also noticed by my co-author rasana segretta independently even back in
+
+01:03:38.860 --> 01:03:43.820
+pink march and so we put kind of the two and two together and we realized that you know
+
+01:03:43.820 --> 01:03:49.100
+a hundred percent match for the fragment so independently two people in canada came to the
+
+01:03:49.100 --> 01:03:57.740
+conclusion that these two viruses were the same like really how would they have done that without
+
+01:03:57.740 --> 01:04:01.580
+already being in the same group together as the people who discovered that the mine was the same
+
+01:04:01.580 --> 01:04:09.180
+you see they're kind of portraying it as though mona figured it out separate from yuri figured it
+
+01:04:09.260 --> 01:04:18.380
+out separate from luigi but luigi is actually tweeting i believe knowing that yuri and mona
+
+01:04:18.380 --> 01:04:26.460
+are working on this like we're all working on it it's a really weird sort of rewrite of the story
+
+01:04:26.460 --> 01:04:32.140
+that so many different people figured it out together independently and then came together as
+
+01:04:32.140 --> 01:04:38.060
+drastic because that's not what happened it's weird and all of the details of collection being
+
+01:04:38.060 --> 01:04:43.340
+very similar most likely means that you know rpg 13 comes from it's basically the full g
+
+01:04:43.340 --> 01:04:48.620
+it fact it's starting to become very clear in my head why they would say this because then drastic
+
+01:04:48.620 --> 01:04:57.740
+doesn't mean anything then drastic wasn't this operation to set up a group of people to go out
+
+01:04:57.740 --> 01:05:06.540
+and scream lab leak but i know for a fact it was and it united a bunch of people with the same
+
+01:05:06.620 --> 01:05:15.420
+suspicions and then the fire was then thrown into that group in the form of phd theses and
+
+01:05:15.420 --> 01:05:20.300
+you know sequences and you know these kind of clues and oh yeah what do you think and whatever
+
+01:05:21.820 --> 01:05:27.580
+this is a rewrite what this is is trying to make it seem like all kinds of people around the world
+
+01:05:27.580 --> 01:05:31.500
+were figuring out the same thing at the same time and that's what brought them together
+
+01:05:31.820 --> 01:05:40.620
+when in reality a bunch of skeptics were brought into a group me being one of them
+
+01:05:41.260 --> 01:05:47.180
+Dan Saratkin the crazy man being one of them Yuri Degan being one of them Luigi Warren who
+
+01:05:47.180 --> 01:05:55.980
+knew all about the RNA being one of them and brought into a group that could then be used to create what
+
+01:05:56.940 --> 01:06:04.540
+the illusion of consensus and i think they actually thought that they could influence me not to talk
+
+01:06:04.540 --> 01:06:09.100
+about the transfection by making an illusion of consensus that these people all agreed that it
+
+01:06:09.100 --> 01:06:16.380
+was most important absolutely the most important thing to figure out was where did this virus come
+
+01:06:16.380 --> 01:06:24.060
+from so much so that i had a member of drastic come to my house in Pittsburgh to make sure that
+
+01:06:24.060 --> 01:06:30.060
+i understood that where this virus came from was the most important mystery to solve and that
+
+01:06:30.060 --> 01:06:35.660
+leaked documents could lead us right to the person we needed to unmask or the people we needed to put
+
+01:06:35.660 --> 01:06:42.060
+in jail somebody made the virus and that making of the virus allowed it to go around the world
+
+01:06:42.060 --> 01:06:48.620
+like magic and he thinks that he's on to the molecular clue that allowed the virus to go around
+
+01:06:48.620 --> 01:06:59.980
+the world like magic you know of the 491 fragment that was published in 2016 an enigmatic person
+
+01:06:59.980 --> 01:07:04.700
+from eastern India who calls himself seeker and prefers to stay anonymous helped both Monalia
+
+01:07:04.700 --> 01:07:09.660
+and Yuri connect the dots between Ratji one three i agree Catherine but i think Catherine at that
+
+01:07:09.660 --> 01:07:17.180
+time they really thought that i was in i was under their control i was under their control i was
+
+01:07:17.260 --> 01:07:22.300
+doing what they were encouraging me to do i was saying the things that they wanted me to say
+
+01:07:23.820 --> 01:07:33.020
+on my bike so yeah he did lead you to me and people were promoting me at that time and then
+
+01:07:33.020 --> 01:07:40.140
+suddenly not anymore around the time when i tried to get in touch with Alina Chan about her paper
+
+01:07:40.140 --> 01:07:46.140
+as things started to go south about the time i started talking about natural immunity being the
+
+01:07:46.220 --> 01:07:51.900
+only way out that that if the vaccine worked at all we would want to save it for the people who
+
+01:07:51.900 --> 01:07:57.420
+need it maybe but we certainly wouldn't want to give it to everybody because that doesn't really
+
+01:07:57.420 --> 01:08:02.620
+make biological sense but you know i didn't even know that there were papers and mechanisms to
+
+01:08:02.620 --> 01:08:12.060
+describe that yet i was just talking off my gut or ra 491 found in mochiang mine in chanas yunan
+
+01:08:12.060 --> 01:08:18.460
+and sas kowi too the seekers email said that actually he had found a master thesis published
+
+01:08:18.460 --> 01:08:24.700
+from china and he also sent us a link to the master thesis this thesis talked about the pneumonia
+
+01:08:24.700 --> 01:08:30.140
+cases which had happened to this particular minors in the mochiang my shop so it was a very
+
+01:08:30.140 --> 01:08:35.020
+detailed account of the illness what happened to the minors which had gone to clean up the mind
+
+01:08:35.020 --> 01:08:41.020
+now what happened to these people so these people started experiencing a fever cough and later on
+
+01:08:41.020 --> 01:08:46.140
+that cough turned into pneumonia china or chinese doctors could have thought that this could be
+
+01:08:46.140 --> 01:08:53.100
+related to sas and therefore they they consulted dr zong nanshan now dr zong nanshan is known as
+
+01:08:53.100 --> 01:08:58.860
+the sas doctor of china and he has also provided very important inputs in covid-19 so zong nanshan
+
+01:08:58.860 --> 01:09:04.860
+remotely consulted these cases and he described this particular patients pneumonia to be of the
+
+01:09:04.860 --> 01:09:10.060
+viral origin so the minors pneumonia resemble covid-19 in all different senses and in our paper we
+
+01:09:10.140 --> 01:09:14.940
+have purely compared that in contrast to that she's angry mentioned in her interview with
+
+01:09:14.940 --> 01:09:20.700
+scientific american that the minors have contracted a fungal disease and this was there were no
+
+01:09:20.700 --> 01:09:26.620
+reasons given by her and so this case becomes even more suspicious in this article in medium
+
+01:09:26.620 --> 01:09:31.980
+geeelstemonov points to conclusions in a master thesis under the guidance of sas expert dr zong
+
+01:09:31.980 --> 01:09:36.860
+nanshan dr zong was consulted by the kunming hospital after the second minor died and had
+
+01:09:36.940 --> 01:09:42.060
+got the two remaining patients and the two recovered ones to be tested again for sas antibodies
+
+01:09:42.060 --> 01:09:47.020
+the vohan institute of virology handled these tests which all turned out positive while the
+
+01:09:47.020 --> 01:09:51.660
+master thesis concludes that the unknown virus that led to cevia pneumonia could be the sas
+
+01:09:51.660 --> 01:09:56.540
+like coronavirus from the chinese rufus horseshoe bat or another bat's sas like coronavirus
+
+01:09:57.100 --> 01:10:02.860
+it also juxtaposes this conflicting opinion of she's angry geeelse writes that it's odd that
+
+01:10:02.940 --> 01:10:08.620
+a 2016 phd thesis under the guidance of gaufu china's cdc head concluded that the cause of the
+
+01:10:08.620 --> 01:10:14.060
+2012 outbreak was not yet clear totally ignoring the opinion and diagnosis of dr zong nanshan
+
+01:10:14.060 --> 01:10:19.020
+also ignoring the four sas antibodies test done at the vohan institute of virology that all turned
+
+01:10:19.020 --> 01:10:24.780
+out positive besides ignoring the fact that the wiv did indeed follow the lead of dr zong nanshan
+
+01:10:24.780 --> 01:10:31.020
+and went sampling bats in that very cave in 2030 when our drastic member the seeker found the
+
+01:10:31.100 --> 01:10:35.340
+thesis the master's thesis from the mojiang mine it essentially confirmed that yes the
+
+01:10:35.340 --> 01:10:39.740
+four nine one is the same as rpg 13 because it was collected after the miners got started like
+
+01:10:39.740 --> 01:10:44.700
+pneumonia and the wohan institute of virology was actually invited to investigate both the
+
+01:10:44.700 --> 01:10:49.900
+miners and then the cave later where they sampled several viruses from the bats so that confirmed
+
+01:10:49.900 --> 01:10:54.780
+our suspicions and eventually the wohan institute virology was you know forced to admit that yes
+
+01:10:54.780 --> 01:11:00.220
+this is the same virus same sample which for some reason they renamed from originally four nine one
+
+01:11:00.300 --> 01:11:04.940
+to rpg 13 and that was a very suspicious thing to do because they never mentioned in their paper
+
+01:11:04.940 --> 01:11:10.140
+how they came across rpg 13 in the 2020 paper they just you know very short sentence mentioning
+
+01:11:10.140 --> 01:11:14.140
+that oh we matched you know small fragment but they didn't say what kind of fragment it was
+
+01:11:14.140 --> 01:11:21.020
+and then they made a hint that they sequenced rpg 13 fully only after they noticed the fragment
+
+01:11:21.020 --> 01:11:26.140
+which is very odd because also we discovered later that they sequenced rpg 13 and 2018
+
+01:11:26.140 --> 01:11:30.460
+basically when they uploaded the sequencing data to jin bank we noticed that it said
+
+01:11:30.460 --> 01:11:35.660
+year of sequencing 2017 and 2018 one of our drastic members Francisco diocese noticed this
+
+01:11:35.660 --> 01:11:40.060
+and then also we confronted the wohan institute were all jasking when exactly the sequenced rpg 13
+
+01:11:40.060 --> 01:11:44.380
+genome and they were forced to again admit that they actually sequenced it much earlier they sequenced
+
+01:11:44.380 --> 01:11:50.860
+it in 2018 some plastic people were able to actually show that effectively rpg 13 was nothing else
+
+01:11:50.860 --> 01:11:54.540
+that another virus was the same virus under a different name which was four nine nine one
+
+01:11:54.540 --> 01:11:58.140
+and that's four nine nine one was the name of the virus in the description of the accident
+
+01:11:59.180 --> 01:12:03.180
+of the miners in moshank so when drastic people found the story of the moshank mine
+
+01:12:03.180 --> 01:12:07.420
+they found it by four nine nine one and it took a lot of time to actually be able to say well
+
+01:12:07.420 --> 01:12:12.220
+actually four nine nine one from the moshank mine is the rpg 13 that she generally is talking about
+
+01:12:12.220 --> 01:12:16.140
+so people are suspecting that the change of name may be a way to try to actually
+
+01:12:17.180 --> 01:12:20.860
+hide the link to the mine it's not very clear but some people find it quite suspect
+
+01:12:21.420 --> 01:12:26.060
+the scientific couple from Pune and Yuri Dagan then independently drew an important link
+
+01:12:26.060 --> 01:12:30.860
+between batwoman she's angry his controversial research work in the wohan institute of biology
+
+01:12:30.860 --> 01:12:35.660
+and a possible lab origin of sars kovita no sorry it's two years ago
+
+01:12:36.300 --> 01:12:42.700
+has denied the fact that they had a sars coronavirus to before the pandemic it is an
+
+01:12:42.700 --> 01:12:47.580
+intriguing fact that they had this rpg 13 from the beginning now they were doing various
+
+01:12:47.580 --> 01:12:54.220
+experiments which created primary virus is rachi 13 is 96.2 percent related to sars kovita
+
+01:12:54.220 --> 01:12:59.660
+so there is a possibility that this particular virus rachi 13 was either not what i wanted
+
+01:12:59.660 --> 01:13:04.380
+or a synthetic model my main my main reason for showing this video was because i wanted to show
+
+01:13:04.380 --> 01:13:08.300
+you what you can do here to find out how bad it is
+
+01:13:08.700 --> 01:13:14.060
+so i am looking at the wrong search here
+
+01:13:17.020 --> 01:13:23.340
+hey everybody how's it going i hope that gosh i love him um hey let's see i want to do a dark
+
+01:13:23.980 --> 01:13:27.980
+course Yuri
+
+01:13:37.820 --> 01:13:49.580
+would you be surprised to know would you be surprised to know that in in 2020 Yuri Dagan
+
+01:13:50.140 --> 01:13:52.220
+a member of drastic
+
+01:13:55.100 --> 01:14:01.980
+was on the dark horse podcast in june 2020 june of 2020
+
+01:14:03.420 --> 01:14:06.060
+before i even knew who the hell bread wine steam was
+
+01:14:13.100 --> 01:14:18.620
+hey folks welcome to the dark horse podcast i have with me Yuri Dagan
+
+01:14:18.620 --> 01:14:26.540
+who is in moscow he is a tech entrepreneur and longevity researcher who has recently
+
+01:14:26.540 --> 01:14:34.300
+come to my attention as someone who has done extensive work looking into the origins of the
+
+01:14:34.300 --> 01:14:41.420
+sars kovita pandemic and i was very impressed when i read his paper on medium i talked about it
+
+01:14:41.420 --> 01:14:47.660
+previously on the podcast with heather and so many of you have seen his work what you may or may not
+
+01:14:47.660 --> 01:14:53.740
+know is that especially this week that work has shown up in a number of mainstream publications
+
+01:14:53.740 --> 01:15:02.140
+as a a strong bit of research pointing in the direction of at least not shutting down the
+
+01:15:02.140 --> 01:15:10.060
+laboratory origin hypothesis for the virus well what's even worse is if you do this and you realize
+
+01:15:10.060 --> 01:15:19.660
+that bread wine steam is actually most likely an orchestrated phenomenon
+
+01:15:24.620 --> 01:15:29.740
+let's just take a look at this really quick to make you aware that this is out there and then
+
+01:15:29.740 --> 01:15:36.780
+you can do your own research you can watch your own videos i'll put this in here in the chatty chat
+
+01:15:36.780 --> 01:15:42.700
+as well let's just check this one out
+
+01:15:47.660 --> 01:15:51.660
+that's the that is the end of the liberal arts college that is the end of liberal arts college
+
+01:15:51.660 --> 01:15:53.660
+right there all right uh so
+
+01:15:59.900 --> 01:16:04.220
+i hope you're ready oh wow that the man at the center of the controversy
+
+01:16:04.940 --> 01:16:11.660
+she said milk coffee please yes milk cream testing testing
+
+01:16:13.900 --> 01:16:20.140
+look at his face well if you can really yeah how about that the man at the center of the controversy
+
+01:16:21.900 --> 01:16:23.340
+she said milk right now yes
+
+01:16:34.220 --> 01:16:48.700
+go hey hey oh oh he says he's not going to go hey hey oh oh he's going to want to hear a goddamn thing
+
+01:16:48.700 --> 01:16:53.980
+you have to say you can't tell my mother you shut the fuck up he's the white bass father they never
+
+01:16:53.980 --> 01:16:59.100
+didn't even be holding him and him and all these people accountable we don't really do it all please
+
+01:16:59.980 --> 01:17:07.740
+i want to thank the council for the incredible plan you have put together please let's all give
+
+01:17:07.740 --> 01:17:15.020
+him a round of applause
+
+01:17:21.260 --> 01:17:25.500
+so is there a beginning to the story and all kind of sort of
+
+01:17:26.460 --> 01:17:31.820
+um the beginning of the story is that evergreen
+
+01:17:33.100 --> 01:17:39.260
+was the most experimental of experimental i'm going to interrupt him for just one second
+
+01:17:39.260 --> 01:17:43.420
+i'm going to go back to the guy who asked this question right here the dude can you see my arrow
+
+01:17:43.420 --> 01:17:48.540
+that guy right there that guy is a group a part of a group of three
+
+01:17:49.100 --> 01:17:59.020
+the college professors who have been submitting gender studies papers that were fake
+
+01:18:00.060 --> 01:18:06.300
+and getting them accepted into big journals to prove that gender studies was a disaster
+
+01:18:08.220 --> 01:18:15.820
+and what you see here is him and his two colleagues who are involved in this
+
+01:18:15.820 --> 01:18:22.300
+gender studies debunking exercise two of which are putting their faculty positions on the line to
+
+01:18:22.300 --> 01:18:31.100
+do it telling Brett Weinstein story and putting Brett Weinstein in front of them as a as a figure
+
+01:18:31.100 --> 01:18:42.060
+head or a leader even though they've been busy trying to break this weird fake university whole
+
+01:18:42.060 --> 01:18:47.980
+entire departments that are fake trying to break that mythology for a while
+
+01:18:49.580 --> 01:18:53.500
+now we put Brett in front of all of them and all of their work even though in this
+
+01:18:53.500 --> 01:18:57.980
+documentary they will talk about the work that these other people have done Brett is the star
+
+01:18:58.540 --> 01:19:05.020
+and that's questionable to the point of why are you'll see later why are there so many good
+
+01:19:05.020 --> 01:19:09.260
+recordings the ones we have seen so far weren't that good but they'll get better
+
+01:19:10.060 --> 01:19:17.580
+is there a beginning to the story and all kind of sort of um the beginning of the story
+
+01:19:18.860 --> 01:19:26.540
+is that evergreen was the most experimental of experimental how do i describe this place
+
+01:19:27.180 --> 01:19:31.420
+i find evergreen is i was told that it's a place where a lot of people use drugs
+
+01:19:32.220 --> 01:19:36.860
+i can be comfortable for who i am like psychedelic drugs he's very outdoorsy so it gives you that
+
+01:19:37.420 --> 01:19:44.220
+ah fresh filling you know i like that an evergreen student is looking for something that
+
+01:19:44.220 --> 01:19:50.300
+isn't as common in the educational structure in america they are searching for more independence
+
+01:19:51.260 --> 01:19:53.420
+for cadence in life
+
+01:19:55.580 --> 01:20:01.020
+it was a place that survived long after the era of the founding of experimental colleges was over
+
+01:20:01.980 --> 01:20:05.900
+the core elements of it were a couple things one was
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+01:20:07.020 --> 01:20:15.180
+the literal total freedom of faculty to teach what they want in whatever manner they want
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+01:20:15.180 --> 01:20:20.780
+so long the students showed up to the classes um it was founded by washington state governor
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+01:20:20.780 --> 01:20:26.380
+daniel evins the best friend of bill gates senior in case you're unaware um it's an interesting
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+01:20:26.460 --> 01:20:30.860
+college with an interesting history 16 credits a quarter sometimes 48 quarters
+
+01:20:30.860 --> 01:20:34.940
+an entire year so you'd be with one group of students 25 if you're teaching alone 50 if you're
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+01:20:34.940 --> 01:20:40.540
+teaching someone else for 16 hours a week on field trips 24 seven the entire year you're
+
+01:20:40.540 --> 01:20:45.900
+just developing community it was actually an extraordinary place to be and to learn
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+01:20:46.700 --> 01:20:51.740
+about the brains of other human beings and also to develop theory which is part of what we were
+
+01:20:51.740 --> 01:20:56.140
+doing there so we didn't want anything to start to go around actual theory about what to go
+
+01:20:56.140 --> 01:21:01.420
+awry but we don't exactly know i thought they taught evolution a new president george bridges
+
+01:21:01.420 --> 01:21:08.540
+was hired hey welcome we are going to have a great year ahead at first he hired a friend of his to
+
+01:21:08.540 --> 01:21:15.740
+interview a great many students faculty alumni staff in order to get the lay of the land and
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+01:21:16.380 --> 01:21:24.220
+evergreen being as far left to college as exists in the country was chronically suspicious the
+
+01:21:24.220 --> 01:21:30.780
+faculty were of administrators right anything administration wanted to do the faculty would
+
+01:21:30.780 --> 01:21:37.100
+if anything they were biased in favor of discussing it more than necessary and not letting anything
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+01:21:37.100 --> 01:21:42.540
+pass because um basically it was labor versus management and everybody's mind the job this
+
+01:21:42.540 --> 01:21:48.140
+president who was clearly out to do something had in front of him was how am i getting
+
+01:21:48.140 --> 01:21:55.260
+how am i going to convince this very left with faculty to not only look the other way while i
+
+01:21:55.260 --> 01:22:01.740
+make radical changes to the college but actually embrace my bloat of administration and my tearing
+
+01:22:01.740 --> 01:22:07.740
+down of the evergreen model how can i do that i can do it by embracing equity we have three major
+
+01:22:07.740 --> 01:22:12.140
+goals for today's forum the first is to continue to learn about the perceptions and
+
+01:22:12.140 --> 01:22:18.300
+experiences of our students faculty and staff of color the second is to create and establish a
+
+01:22:18.300 --> 01:22:22.620
+series of i don't think she broke her neck with that one and the third is to inspire every member
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+01:22:22.620 --> 01:22:27.420
+of the evergreen community as we move ahead to advance diversity here on our campus
+
+01:22:29.820 --> 01:22:34.780
+i'd like to read a list of core tenets developed by a group of anti-racist educators who was
+
+01:22:34.780 --> 01:22:40.220
+who were on a panel at the race and pedagogy conference in Tacoma last year here are the
+
+01:22:40.220 --> 01:22:49.260
+tenants racism exists today in both traditional and modern forms racism is an institutionalized
+
+01:22:49.260 --> 01:22:55.100
+multi-layered multi-level system that distributes unequal power and resources between white people
+
+01:22:55.100 --> 01:23:01.900
+and people of color as socially identified and disproportionately benefits whites all members
+
+01:23:01.900 --> 01:23:07.100
+of society are so socialized to participate in the system of racism albeit within varied
+
+01:23:07.100 --> 01:23:14.780
+social locations all white people benefit from racism regardless of intentions no one chose to
+
+01:23:14.780 --> 01:23:21.580
+be socialized into racism so no one is quote unquote bad but no one is neutral to not act against
+
+01:23:21.580 --> 01:23:29.580
+racism is to support racism racism must be continually identified analyzed and challenged no one is ever
+
+01:23:29.580 --> 01:23:37.100
+done the question is not did racism take place but rather how did racism manifest in that situation
+
+01:23:38.780 --> 01:23:43.580
+the racial status quo is comfortable for most whites therefore anything that maintains white
+
+01:23:43.580 --> 01:23:50.860
+comfort is suspect the racially oppressed have a more intimate insight via experiential knowledge
+
+01:23:50.860 --> 01:23:55.660
+of the system of race and then their racial oppressors however white professors will be seen
+
+01:23:55.660 --> 01:24:02.700
+as having more legitimacy thus positionality must be intentionally engaged resistance is a
+
+01:24:02.700 --> 01:24:08.540
+predictable reaction to anti-racist education and must be explicitly and strategically addressed
+
+01:24:08.540 --> 01:24:16.380
+wow good how many pages there are i believe these core tenants can be a guide for our work moving
+
+01:24:16.380 --> 01:24:22.220
+they are core ten actions to educate our health not tenants ten and our students ten tenants
+
+01:24:22.220 --> 01:24:29.020
+we galvanize white privilege in the form of curriculum exulting tenants yeah tenants not
+
+01:24:29.020 --> 01:24:40.220
+tenants literature theory and scientific thinking or so we don't examine how those canons are made
+
+01:24:42.060 --> 01:24:47.100
+i believe we are capable of unlearning the habits of mind that perpetuate white privilege
+
+01:24:47.420 --> 01:24:54.700
+what i am uncertain of is our collective will to examine those habits
+
+01:24:56.540 --> 01:25:03.020
+this i believe i believe evergreen can create a more vibrant community this i believe
+
+01:25:03.020 --> 01:25:10.300
+i racist activists this i believe he said is that any different than saying this i believe is
+
+01:25:10.940 --> 01:25:18.940
+like bret does that vaccines are the greatest invention of mankind in medicine this i believe
+
+01:25:20.620 --> 01:25:25.180
+it's in a university but look what we're seeing here look at the production of this
+
+01:25:26.860 --> 01:25:33.180
+this is a documentary that is not meant to show these people in a bad light it's giving them
+
+01:25:33.980 --> 01:25:38.220
+an opportunity to say exactly what they wanted to say with a great recording
+
+01:25:40.460 --> 01:25:42.700
+in both of my ears with no noise
+
+01:25:44.540 --> 01:25:49.020
+breath's not explaining it one of these other people isn't explaining it so that we
+
+01:25:49.020 --> 01:25:54.700
+understand explicitly how dumb it is from the moment we say it but instead we're allowing them
+
+01:25:54.700 --> 01:25:58.140
+to say it at their own pace and their own cadence
+
+01:25:59.020 --> 01:26:08.300
+so don't see this movie as a expose on what they did to Brett Weinstein see it as a message
+
+01:26:09.740 --> 01:26:14.940
+and Brett Weinstein is the messenger and the message the part of the message is being
+
+01:26:14.940 --> 01:26:20.700
+co-opted is the message of the people that actually made this movie that thought that they were
+
+01:26:20.700 --> 01:26:27.980
+going to elevate their own cause a fight against gender studies and that kind of nonsense academia
+
+01:26:29.100 --> 01:26:34.700
+they were going to elevate their own cause by elevating the cause of Brett Weinstein when instead
+
+01:26:34.700 --> 01:26:42.460
+what happened was basically their entire movement was co-opted on our staff and faculty and among
+
+01:26:42.460 --> 01:26:49.580
+our students if we break our 45 year pattern of occasionally turning toward these issues
+
+01:26:50.140 --> 01:26:57.340
+briefly with deep but short run commitment that fades yes a boat anchor exactly it's like a boat
+
+01:26:57.340 --> 01:27:02.780
+a words of action disappearing into the background as we return to business as usual
+
+01:27:04.300 --> 01:27:07.820
+breaking this cycle will take sustained and stubborn
+
+01:27:07.820 --> 01:27:13.820
+going a little short color critical and audacious goal of eliminating racism and violence in our
+
+01:27:13.820 --> 01:27:21.660
+world i believe we're all privileged to engage in that work in a learning community that wants
+
+01:27:21.660 --> 01:27:29.420
+to be better and i believe we have the will to do so thank you for coming today an imaginary
+
+01:27:29.420 --> 01:27:37.020
+community i don't know if i saw an imaginary there was a faculty meeting with an unusual
+
+01:27:37.740 --> 01:27:50.060
+agenda the agenda involved the faculty voting to require our union to insert into our contract
+
+01:27:50.060 --> 01:27:57.500
+a provision in which every faculty member would reflect on their own growth relative to their
+
+01:27:57.500 --> 01:28:05.340
+personal racism each and every year in their self evaluation there is something preposterous
+
+01:28:05.340 --> 01:28:10.300
+about this idea these other these other we all have this internal racism these other two people
+
+01:28:10.300 --> 01:28:15.020
+have been asked to personally reflect on our own internal racism every year i still would have
+
+01:28:15.180 --> 01:28:20.140
+been troubled by the fact of the assumption that it was present but nonetheless it would
+
+01:28:20.140 --> 01:28:25.180
+not have posed the danger in the institutional context of here could you write to us about your
+
+01:28:25.180 --> 01:28:33.180
+own racism every year in your self evaluation which then becomes fodder for promotion for firing for
+
+01:28:33.180 --> 01:28:40.860
+all sorts of proceedings and so at the point that this faculty meeting occurred i went to it and
+
+01:28:41.020 --> 01:28:50.940
+um i stood up and i said i said i've never been afraid to stand before this faculty before but
+
+01:28:50.940 --> 01:28:58.940
+i have real trepidation about what i'm about to say i then said look i believe my record is strong
+
+01:28:58.940 --> 01:29:05.660
+enough that i can afford the accusation that i expect to come back but this is a terrible idea
+
+01:29:05.740 --> 01:29:12.780
+for us we must not vote for this proposal and then we held the vote i think it was 70 to 2
+
+01:29:13.260 --> 01:29:19.020
+an anonymous vote no not anonymous i think it would have been very different if it had been
+
+01:29:19.020 --> 01:29:26.940
+anonymous because i was leaving the room within 15 minutes i had three conversations where other
+
+01:29:26.940 --> 01:29:35.180
+faculty members told me these are tenured faculty members only one of whom was a straight white guy
+
+01:29:35.180 --> 01:29:40.860
+told me they agreed with me but could not vote their conscience in that room i totally see that
+
+01:29:40.860 --> 01:29:46.300
+and i thought this is insane these are tenured faculty members there's actually nothing that
+
+01:29:46.300 --> 01:29:52.380
+can happen to them here and they're safe why can't they vote their conscience my goal one of my
+
+01:29:52.380 --> 01:30:01.100
+goals is to have diversity equity race be a part of everything it's not what you do at 10 o'clock
+
+01:30:01.100 --> 01:30:07.980
+on the agenda and then you move on to something else so my question we started talking about
+
+01:30:07.980 --> 01:30:16.780
+attention that i feel a lot as someone is trying to work on these issues there is white fragility
+
+01:30:16.780 --> 01:30:24.140
+people do and i'm thinking of faculty choose not to or choose to engage in this they make
+
+01:30:24.140 --> 01:30:35.340
+that choice how do i acknowledge the horror of racism and know that if i speak at that level
+
+01:30:36.140 --> 01:30:42.620
+people will leave or not engage the way that you keep them in is the is the you know i'm so
+
+01:30:42.620 --> 01:30:46.940
+glad you brought that up i've heard that before can you tell me more here's how you know so that
+
+01:30:46.940 --> 01:30:51.980
+kind of welcoming you them to bring it to you so that you can kind of look at it sometimes just a
+
+01:30:52.060 --> 01:30:57.020
+question can be really powerful i find it very ironic that she has an amulet on her chest that
+
+01:30:57.020 --> 01:31:04.780
+is empty i think it's a symbol for the emptiness that she represents and the emptiness of this
+
+01:31:04.780 --> 01:31:11.580
+idea or yeah i used to i used to see that that way too and then somebody shared this and i you know
+
+01:31:11.580 --> 01:31:19.260
+so you're just kind of diplomatically but the um the non-cuddling is that you're not letting it
+
+01:31:19.260 --> 01:31:25.580
+stop you right and that that's the call you're not giving up or going away you're just trying
+
+01:31:25.580 --> 01:31:30.460
+to figure out how to how to diplomatically keep them in and keeping them in is an interruption
+
+01:31:30.460 --> 01:31:36.300
+to what they really want to have happen the line about not being able to fire somebody over what
+
+01:31:36.300 --> 01:31:44.060
+they believe struck me as really poignant um and for this institution relevant and so far as we have
+
+01:31:44.060 --> 01:31:51.980
+this libertarian ethos where faculty autonomy is really privileged i can't make you agree or
+
+01:31:51.980 --> 01:31:58.620
+disagree i hate to even use that language of a career disagree but nonetheless um but when you're
+
+01:31:58.620 --> 01:32:05.900
+here you are required by your job to create an atmosphere in which all children can learn that
+
+01:32:05.900 --> 01:32:12.140
+idea that this is trying to control people's thinking no but um not addressing these kinds of
+
+01:32:12.140 --> 01:32:17.660
+attitudes does affect people's abilities to learn that is part of your job it's it's a theoretical
+
+01:32:17.660 --> 01:32:24.300
+framework just like any other theoretical framework but that's the one that where this this
+
+01:32:24.300 --> 01:32:29.020
+institution stands behind and that you're going to have to grapple with right so i mean that might
+
+01:32:29.020 --> 01:32:32.460
+be a great note to end on right so thank you so much
+
+01:32:32.460 --> 01:32:41.020
+at some point i confront she's awesome she's awesome and i've said you're remaking the college
+
+01:32:41.020 --> 01:32:44.220
+you haven't left enough time in faculty meetings you're burning up all the time in
+
+01:32:44.220 --> 01:32:49.740
+faculty meetings on these announcements you have to let us discuss these things and so he arranged
+
+01:32:50.620 --> 01:32:55.820
+something like six meetings that were supposed to solve this problem where 20 people at a time
+
+01:32:55.820 --> 01:33:00.380
+could sign up to have a discussion with the president so the email list was the only place
+
+01:33:00.460 --> 01:33:05.180
+left at which we could access every other member of the faculty and have a discussion
+
+01:33:05.180 --> 01:33:11.900
+which is why i repeatedly went to the email list and said look we've got a problem we've got
+
+01:33:11.900 --> 01:33:17.260
+authoritarianism taking over the college this intersectional stuff is dangerous and being deployed
+
+01:33:17.260 --> 01:33:25.660
+in a way that's a hazard to the core values of the institution and one of the other things that
+
+01:33:25.660 --> 01:33:32.300
+you said i believe uh was we keep on hearing that we are at an incredibly racist institution
+
+01:33:32.300 --> 01:33:41.100
+and we have yet to hear any credible evidence for racism here on campus we have a problem with
+
+01:33:41.100 --> 01:33:48.460
+racism here on campus and we have a problem with other folks not being treated the way that they
+
+01:33:48.460 --> 01:33:52.700
+should be treated and this isn't going to continue on my watch
+
+01:33:57.980 --> 01:34:01.100
+the field is the same or asking for a period of inertia there is a canoe
+
+01:34:02.060 --> 01:34:06.700
+whether ever being stayed college we do diversity well you go get the nation in diversity
+
+01:34:08.220 --> 01:34:10.460
+but one thing we're not leading the nation in is equity
+
+01:34:10.460 --> 01:34:20.300
+and what that means is that some of y'all sit in these seats and some of y'all sit in these seats
+
+01:34:21.820 --> 01:34:25.420
+i've had experiences but it ain't been right
+
+01:34:29.020 --> 01:34:30.220
+the cost is too high
+
+01:34:32.620 --> 01:34:37.500
+and the implications are too much it's hilarious because who the hell is this
+
+01:34:38.380 --> 01:34:43.980
+what life experience does he have that trumps the life experience of all the other people in the room
+
+01:34:45.180 --> 01:34:51.580
+i'm sure he's not a holocaust survivor i mean who the hell is this guy he's got a pretty god damn
+
+01:34:51.580 --> 01:34:54.540
+nice suit for being the victim of systemic racism
+
+01:34:58.860 --> 01:35:04.780
+and at some point in time if this campus is going to stand up for what it espouses to be
+
+01:35:05.580 --> 01:35:12.460
+needs to say enough is enough i established in charge trying this equity council this
+
+01:35:12.460 --> 01:35:18.220
+incredible equity council with developing a plan for institutional change how do we have this
+
+01:35:18.220 --> 01:35:23.900
+footage did they really film it like this did they really film it with such high def i don't know
+
+01:35:23.900 --> 01:35:29.660
+very many institutions that film with this high def you might have a camera in the back on a tripod
+
+01:35:29.660 --> 01:35:37.980
+but you see what i'm saying here ladies and gentlemen systemic change that would enable
+
+01:35:37.980 --> 01:35:42.060
+evergreen to acknowledge and address the equity gaps that are pervasive on our campus
+
+01:35:43.260 --> 01:35:49.740
+and i want to thank with immense gratitude is that two different camera angles for the work
+
+01:35:49.740 --> 01:35:57.260
+you've invested the heartbreaking effort you have gone through and for the incredible plan
+
+01:35:57.260 --> 01:36:00.620
+you have put together please let's all give them the right
+
+01:36:04.620 --> 01:36:11.980
+so what they changed to another camera there's another camera there's another there's two cameras
+
+01:36:11.980 --> 01:36:19.260
+on it it was not a forum it was a celebration of the equity plan which had supposedly been
+
+01:36:19.260 --> 01:36:23.660
+distributed to the faculty but wasn't actually not available to them until i emailed the faculty
+
+01:36:23.740 --> 01:36:28.940
+with this document you know irony of ironies i'm the one sending out this plan and saying actually
+
+01:36:28.940 --> 01:36:37.500
+y'all should read this um so the meeting occurs it is a celebration at the celebration architects
+
+01:36:37.500 --> 01:36:45.900
+of the plan essentially say this plan is going to happen because it is no longer acceptable
+
+01:36:45.900 --> 01:36:48.860
+that our mission and vision only applies to a few
+
+01:36:51.740 --> 01:36:57.260
+so as we think about this plan we should be thinking about how are we unscrewing
+
+01:36:57.260 --> 01:37:03.980
+the screws and it will take many hands to do this to unscrew the structure of institutional racism
+
+01:37:05.500 --> 01:37:11.420
+we have a beginning to do this and our hope is that we are inviting you and what it is is this
+
+01:37:11.420 --> 01:37:17.660
+really it's a bizarre inversion very oh i got to get my microphone i hear the rain
+
+01:37:20.860 --> 01:37:27.340
+shit sorry about that i'm coming right back
+
+01:37:42.300 --> 01:37:49.580
+it's a severe inversion from and it's very similar to the inversion of the protocols
+
+01:37:49.580 --> 01:37:54.940
+versus the virus and i think that they've done this with a lot of things in american culture
+
+01:37:54.940 --> 01:38:01.500
+but the very gist of it is that what you're looking at is a person who hears the whole
+
+01:38:02.620 --> 01:38:09.740
+of of her experience in life and what the tv and social media has done is convinced her
+
+01:38:09.820 --> 01:38:20.380
+that almost this entire thing is stained exclusively by systemic racism everything contained within
+
+01:38:20.380 --> 01:38:29.500
+the experience of her life has been tainted by systemic racism tainted in a way that her own
+
+01:38:29.500 --> 01:38:36.780
+input to her destiny could never overcome tainted in a way that her own actions can never overcome
+
+01:38:37.660 --> 01:38:41.260
+tainted in a way that her choices had no effect on
+
+01:38:43.740 --> 01:38:49.420
+just like people have been led to believe that if this is the total number of people that died
+
+01:38:49.420 --> 01:38:53.340
+in the last three years the vast majority of them have been killed by covid
+
+01:38:57.340 --> 01:39:03.420
+it's the exact same illusion that they have gotten you to ask the wrong question how do we fix this
+
+01:39:03.420 --> 01:39:10.700
+systemic racism that's held me and my people back if you're asking that question then you're
+
+01:39:10.700 --> 01:39:15.180
+not asking how you can improve yourself and improve your family and improve your day
+
+01:39:15.180 --> 01:39:22.780
+and improve your habits improve your schools and improve your communities you're asking how to fix
+
+01:39:23.420 --> 01:39:30.860
+systemic racism which means you're never going to fix a lot of things in the community that need
+
+01:39:30.940 --> 01:39:38.140
+fixing because you're focused on a non-problem a problem that actually has a lot more to do with
+
+01:39:38.140 --> 01:39:47.740
+individual choices individual prejudices and individual experiences systemic racism is an illusion
+
+01:39:48.860 --> 01:39:55.500
+it may be a factor just like wind is a factor when you drive your car down the road but you know
+
+01:39:55.500 --> 01:40:01.500
+unless the wind's blowing really hard generally speaking wind doesn't affect automobiles
+
+01:40:02.620 --> 01:40:10.060
+and unless you're really weak I mean really weak sticks and stones may break my bones but
+
+01:40:10.060 --> 01:40:15.020
+names will never hurt me it's gonna have to be some really loud yelling
+
+01:40:18.060 --> 01:40:21.900
+and that's what i'm talking about here we need to stop this we need to
+
+01:40:22.300 --> 01:40:28.540
+they're misleading our children with this mythology about systemic racism being more
+
+01:40:28.540 --> 01:40:34.220
+important than what they do with their own lives the choices that they make the words that they
+
+01:40:34.220 --> 01:40:37.100
+say the promises that they make and the promises that they keep
+
+01:40:41.260 --> 01:40:47.740
+rather than teaching them the stoic stoic idea of thinking about how well you did your day and
+
+01:40:47.740 --> 01:40:51.660
+making it better tomorrow let's think about how the system holds me back
+
+01:40:57.740 --> 01:41:02.140
+instead of thinking about driving a car better i'm going to think about all the ways that the
+
+01:41:02.140 --> 01:41:13.020
+wind is getting in my way you to come along we're going to do it don't get it twisted
+
+01:41:13.660 --> 01:41:20.460
+but we would like for you to join us on this road on this journey
+
+01:41:23.180 --> 01:41:28.700
+so we invite you we want more conversation and we know there's much more work to be done
+
+01:41:28.700 --> 01:41:36.300
+we invite that conversation but if you want to be an obstructionist to work on your own
+
+01:41:36.860 --> 01:41:39.100
+she's crying
+
+01:41:43.420 --> 01:41:48.220
+so the charge for them was to do something relatively small from the present and they
+
+01:41:48.220 --> 01:41:53.020
+go into how we're going to start hiring in the future and how you know just they they go
+
+01:41:53.020 --> 01:42:02.140
+way beyond what it is mission and just mission leap how about yeah um and some of the things
+
+01:42:02.220 --> 01:42:07.820
+that they argue some of the things that this plan which we know that no one has seen because
+
+01:42:07.820 --> 01:42:11.580
+it literally has not been made available even though the claim was that it was available
+
+01:42:12.620 --> 01:42:21.020
+are things like from now on not just individuals hired to positions need to have an equity
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+01:42:21.020 --> 01:42:26.060
+justification but every single position itself needs to have an equity justification
+
+01:42:26.540 --> 01:42:31.820
+wow which means wow how do you hire a chemist does chemistry have an equity justification
+
+01:42:32.780 --> 01:42:37.340
+how do you hire an artist who doesn't happen to be engaged in in social justice issues
+
+01:42:37.340 --> 01:42:43.340
+that's the end of the liberal arts college so is it more important to fight the equity movement
+
+01:42:43.340 --> 01:42:49.740
+at evergreen state or would it be more important to feature the fact that these other three people
+
+01:42:49.740 --> 01:42:55.660
+who they're barely showing on the camera have been writing ridiculously false papers in the
+
+01:42:55.660 --> 01:43:03.900
+social sciences including gender studies and getting them published potentially cracking the
+
+01:43:03.900 --> 01:43:13.020
+narrative of gender studies and breaking this this hold that they have on academia which is the
+
+01:43:14.300 --> 01:43:18.300
+the intellectual bedrock upon which this transgender movement in
+
+01:43:18.460 --> 01:43:28.460
+in our society is based i find this highly disturbing that these people who are doing
+
+01:43:28.460 --> 01:43:35.500
+such a courageous thing are making a movie about the wine steams and the equity issues
+
+01:43:35.500 --> 01:43:42.940
+at evergreen instead of the wine steams calling attention to their attack on an entire academic
+
+01:43:43.020 --> 01:43:51.420
+field or fields and how that would clean up universities around the world certainly around
+
+01:43:51.420 --> 01:43:59.100
+the united states as opposed to worrying about a bunch of lame-os in in a conch in a college
+
+01:43:59.100 --> 01:44:04.460
+that's in the middle of nowhere and isn't sending their graduates anywhere of consequence so who
+
+01:44:04.460 --> 01:44:12.060
+cares why not feature the wonderful work of these other three people who keeps barely getting in
+
+01:44:12.060 --> 01:44:19.180
+the shot who have written academic papers that are fake which have shown the gender studies as
+
+01:44:19.180 --> 01:44:26.300
+a field is fake seems like a lot bigger football the spike is the end of liberal arts college right
+
+01:44:26.300 --> 01:44:31.660
+there right so that is that is one of many things in this document you know i i have i have i have
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+01:44:31.660 --> 01:44:35.900
+my we printed it out and i have my hand scrawled like every single page like what are they doing
+
+01:44:35.900 --> 01:44:41.420
+oh my god so we're gonna do something for you today that we did as a group in in august
+
+01:44:42.220 --> 01:44:47.100
+and we're going to ask for key stakeholders that are on this campus
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+01:44:49.180 --> 01:44:57.500
+to get on board our journey to equity so what i'm going to do first is ask this is the council
+
+01:44:57.500 --> 01:45:01.820
+our council is large expansive and we're going and we're going to get on a canoe
+
+01:45:03.260 --> 01:45:08.620
+okay and we're going to get on a canoe what is with the super giant necklace like what's that
+
+01:45:08.940 --> 01:45:15.740
+is that a is that a cultural thing i don't know the culture that uses big giant plastic black
+
+01:45:15.740 --> 01:45:25.180
+makelases it's gonna sometimes have fierce weights unbearable headwinds and sometimes
+
+01:45:25.820 --> 01:45:31.740
+intentional or unintentional extra rocking of the boat because we're not on the same page or on the
+
+01:45:31.740 --> 01:45:39.900
+same heartbeat the canoe was a metaphor for the journey to this magical land of what they were
+
+01:45:39.900 --> 01:45:45.580
+calling equity and so the idea i mean the whole thing is almost too preposterous to believe but
+
+01:45:45.580 --> 01:45:53.260
+with uh distinctly non hospitable to canoe the lady back here this lady is brilliant
+
+01:45:53.820 --> 01:46:00.620
+she's hilarious she's sharp as a knife and we should make movies about her i think i think
+
+01:46:00.700 --> 01:46:05.340
+Lindsay's really cool i think this guy over here peat is also really cool and really smart
+
+01:46:06.620 --> 01:46:13.340
+and i don't really know but it just is very suspicious to me that their work is being overshadowed
+
+01:46:13.340 --> 01:46:18.860
+by Brett's work in this documentary we're calling equity and so the idea i mean the whole thing is
+
+01:46:18.860 --> 01:46:26.780
+almost too preposterous to believe but with uh distinctly non hospitable to canoe shots of a rocky
+
+01:46:26.780 --> 01:46:33.180
+coastline on which waves are breaking heavily and the sound of those waves breaking so if we
+
+01:46:33.180 --> 01:46:41.420
+can bring this canoe forward so we can make sure it's a straight canoe if we need to have our canoe
+
+01:46:41.980 --> 01:46:45.340
+john let me know if this is not okay can there be can it be three wide
+
+01:46:46.700 --> 01:46:51.660
+two wide okay so we got to make this happen i mean the whole thing didn't hang together uh visually
+
+01:46:51.660 --> 01:46:56.300
+auditorily conceptually mathematically really the canoe was not well thought out
+
+01:46:56.300 --> 01:46:58.860
+that's really it seems good it's we're sending the college down the river
+
+01:46:59.660 --> 01:47:04.780
+well i mean you know i did and i must say this is very uncomfortable for me because i think if
+
+01:47:04.780 --> 01:47:09.500
+there are two populations that really have an extremely strong claim in the u.s. to
+
+01:47:10.940 --> 01:47:17.740
+consistent structural oppression it's indians and africans people of african origin
+
+01:47:18.060 --> 01:47:22.940
+yeah especially with love to come on board with the idea of you know a canoe journey to
+
+01:47:22.940 --> 01:47:28.460
+somewhere but this looked like they had cloaked a freight train in the imagery of a canoe oh hold
+
+01:47:28.460 --> 01:47:37.340
+on one second um the senior administrators um you have to ask for permission and commit
+
+01:47:38.300 --> 01:47:43.020
+some things before boarding the canoe so can we step back out
+
+01:47:43.340 --> 01:47:50.060
+so uh i would like to board the crew because i'm committed to enhancing and furthering
+
+01:47:51.660 --> 01:47:55.100
+inclusion and equity campus community all school students and staff
+
+01:47:55.660 --> 01:47:58.540
+faculty and to do that with compassion and kindness
+
+01:48:00.700 --> 01:48:07.980
+um personally i am committed to making evergreen a more student ready campus and as a provost
+
+01:48:08.940 --> 01:48:14.140
+i am committing resources help train our faculty become
+
+01:48:16.620 --> 01:48:22.700
+be able to promote equity inclusion in the classroom and outside the classroom
+
+01:48:25.820 --> 01:48:29.900
+i carry with me the legacy of boarding schools and i carry with me the legacy
+
+01:48:29.900 --> 01:48:33.980
+but wouldn't you agree then that that's weird right if james lindsey has published books
+
+01:48:33.980 --> 01:48:40.300
+and is actually working on this if that lady and pete i apologize i don't remember the other
+
+01:48:40.300 --> 01:48:45.820
+lady's name are working on this and attacking it from the inside
+
+01:48:48.060 --> 01:48:52.860
+i don't really understand how we're able to tell this story so well why is this story so well
+
+01:48:52.860 --> 01:48:57.420
+produced why is there so much good footage with different angles of this stunt
+
+01:48:57.660 --> 01:49:01.740
+unless it was always intended to be a stunt
+
+01:49:02.780 --> 01:49:07.500
+unless bret Weinstein might have always been intended to testify in front of the senate
+
+01:49:08.220 --> 01:49:21.420
+and to be elevated to a status of internet biology equity guy just in time for the start of a
+
+01:49:21.580 --> 01:49:32.300
+uh biological crisis just in time to have his eighth podcast have sam harris on it in december
+
+01:49:32.300 --> 01:49:39.900
+of 2019 for them to say that when there comes a particularly deadly pandemic we won't have time
+
+01:49:39.900 --> 01:49:49.900
+for the anti-vax mentality i'm trying to show you that there is a possibility that this red thread
+
+01:49:49.900 --> 01:49:58.300
+doesn't run back straight through north carolina and eco-health alliance and nih so much as it runs
+
+01:49:58.300 --> 01:50:07.340
+straight through peter teal elan musk the intellectual dark web which includes all of those people
+
+01:50:08.540 --> 01:50:15.180
+and all of the people that they influence and have brought up and have have lifted out of the
+
+01:50:15.180 --> 01:50:25.100
+algorithmic fog and into prominence as podcasters teo van you know i don't know there's lots of these
+
+01:50:25.900 --> 01:50:33.100
+mid-level podcasters that all pay homage all the way up to pyramid to the wine steins and rogan
+
+01:50:36.300 --> 01:50:43.260
+and i'm trying to tell you that this was orchestrated and their rise to prominence
+
+01:50:43.260 --> 01:50:48.460
+around rogan was orchestrated rogan might have been spontaneous and co-opted by people like
+
+01:50:49.100 --> 01:50:57.180
+brat wine stein i mean brat wine stein claimed to be the the scientific advisor to joe rogan that
+
+01:50:57.180 --> 01:51:02.380
+joe rogan calls him he said that to us in the signal chats but there's no question that
+
+01:51:03.100 --> 01:51:09.900
+something is here and this high level of documentation of this stupid little po-dong college
+
+01:51:10.540 --> 01:51:18.540
+and it's stupid little equity freak out in whenever this was 2016 is orchestrated
+
+01:51:19.500 --> 01:51:24.700
+of adoption where's the adoption and i'm here because i refuse i think this is the sound of
+
+01:51:24.700 --> 01:51:30.140
+wings that they're they're stimulating in the room it's not me and i refuse to let whiteness
+
+01:51:30.140 --> 01:51:37.180
+consume me and i'm going to say that word explicitly whiteness i refuse i refuse for my mother
+
+01:51:37.180 --> 01:51:41.900
+i refuse for her mother for my grandfather for my ancestors for my brothers and sisters my
+
+01:51:41.900 --> 01:51:51.580
+relatives today i refuse i'm here and i commit the position of privilege and power i occupy as
+
+01:51:51.580 --> 01:51:57.020
+the president of this college to invest in this council its initiatives and its homes
+
+01:52:05.660 --> 01:52:06.780
+is the hat authentic
+
+01:52:12.860 --> 01:52:20.220
+i'm sitting there in this room with several hundred other people and i can wow in my mind
+
+01:52:20.220 --> 01:52:24.540
+almost count the people in the room who understand that something terrible is a foot
+
+01:52:24.540 --> 01:52:29.180
+who understand that a this is a bizarre way to do this b it's duplicitous they've
+
+01:52:29.580 --> 01:52:33.260
+they've told us that they're sharing this document they've they've told us that we're going to be
+
+01:52:33.260 --> 01:52:38.380
+able to discuss it and then they've threatened us for daring to think about questioning it and
+
+01:52:38.380 --> 01:52:46.220
+so there's a way in which sitting in that room you know i knew that heather was a couple blocks away
+
+01:52:46.300 --> 01:52:50.300
+and that she would understand this exactly as i did i knew that there was
+
+01:52:51.580 --> 01:52:56.220
+ah i hesitate to say it but there was a dean in the room who i knew wasn't going to say anything
+
+01:52:56.220 --> 01:53:01.820
+but he knew how wrong this was and so there's a way in which you just there's a sea of people
+
+01:53:01.820 --> 01:53:08.540
+engaged in a shared delusion and then there's a few people witnessing the delusion and isolated
+
+01:53:08.540 --> 01:53:15.820
+unable to exchange words or anything that sense of being alone in a crowd is profound and that
+
+01:53:15.820 --> 01:53:19.740
+really was how that meeting felt in a crowd of people who are supposed to be your colleagues
+
+01:53:19.740 --> 01:53:29.020
+yeah who are sleepwalking structural institutionalized inequality or racism right so an anti-racist
+
+01:53:29.020 --> 01:53:35.100
+frame understands racism as a system while individual players partake in it it's not dependent on
+
+01:53:35.100 --> 01:53:40.780
+individual players right it's embedded in the fabric of the society in all the institutions
+
+01:53:40.780 --> 01:53:45.980
+the norms the practices the policies the unbelievable the way that history is told
+
+01:53:45.980 --> 01:53:51.580
+and the and it functions to ensure an unequal distribution of basically everything between
+
+01:53:51.580 --> 01:53:55.900
+people of color as a whole and white people as a whole world i had started attending every
+
+01:53:55.900 --> 01:54:02.300
+faculty and going to every presentation because there were bomb shells dropped every time and
+
+01:54:02.300 --> 01:54:05.580
+nobody appeared to be tracking all of it if you can just take a moment to look at this image
+
+01:54:06.300 --> 01:54:11.100
+and look at the two different realities that these students face at the same place
+
+01:54:12.140 --> 01:54:17.740
+so for folks that are younger don't think this is some distance memory a far far long ago okay
+
+01:54:18.460 --> 01:54:24.540
+it's about us as faculty and staff but you know what it's also not about you most of the people
+
+01:54:24.540 --> 01:54:30.060
+who have their mental faculties about them we're learning to avoid these things because every single
+
+01:54:30.060 --> 01:54:34.220
+one of them put you in a bind i can't emphasize this enough this is not what do you think happened
+
+01:54:34.300 --> 01:54:40.620
+to Brett Weinstein when he lost his job at Evergreen State have you ever looked it up
+
+01:54:42.140 --> 01:54:47.660
+was it like me where they just made him go home and live out his contract paid it out and then
+
+01:54:47.660 --> 01:54:55.900
+ignored him where he could never go on and have a career and since Brett is from a poor family that
+
+01:54:55.900 --> 01:55:01.020
+doesn't even deserve a note in his is Wikipedia i guess we can assume that he got basically
+
+01:55:01.100 --> 01:55:07.020
+thrown out on the street right no he settled for a half a million dollars and we don't know what
+
+01:55:07.020 --> 01:55:13.340
+Heather got so just get rid of it it is not possible to avoid being socialized into a racist
+
+01:55:13.340 --> 01:55:18.300
+worldview if you're white it's not possible it's coming out as 24 seven the only way to resist
+
+01:55:18.300 --> 01:55:24.220
+it is to be able to see it and think it through so to deny it is not going to help you i encourage
+
+01:55:24.220 --> 01:55:30.220
+you to look them up as well marsha p johnson and sylvia ruevera their actions were initially
+
+01:55:30.300 --> 01:55:35.740
+to throw a heavy weight and a bottle at cops that's a good place oh it is very very different
+
+01:55:35.740 --> 01:55:43.660
+strategies right one is political organizing another one is uh non-traditional maybe you know
+
+01:55:43.660 --> 01:55:52.220
+more resistance more violent kind of action and also prayer three different political strategies
+
+01:55:52.220 --> 01:56:02.300
+through education violence and prayer boy them three different strategies maybe violence
+
+01:56:02.300 --> 01:56:11.660
+and prayer wow entire of waiting for change to happen they forcefully took the island back
+
+01:56:12.540 --> 01:56:19.420
+and i tell this story because of first generation students first generation students of color
+
+01:56:20.380 --> 01:56:26.460
+we all share similar struggles the students are taking a stand they're not powerless they're not
+
+01:56:26.460 --> 01:56:31.740
+objects in the sense they're subjects in the sense they're powerful they said we're going to have
+
+01:56:31.740 --> 01:56:38.940
+these conversations one way or another and that administration still said no and then now that
+
+01:56:38.940 --> 01:56:49.100
+administration ain't there anymore so we'll watch part two some other time
+
+01:56:49.900 --> 01:56:55.580
+um i i don't i don't think it's not worth our time because it does get interesting at some
+
+01:56:55.580 --> 01:57:02.780
+point how the the narrative evolves um if you would like to watch Brett Weinstein and Yuri Dagan
+
+01:57:03.340 --> 01:57:12.540
+i can give you that link here um if you want to watch the original special broadcast of
+
+01:57:12.540 --> 01:57:22.540
+the drastic from 2021 you can look here and if you want to see the latest jimmy door where he's
+
+01:57:22.540 --> 01:57:30.140
+having josh getsco um and john rewatching a john campbell episode you can watch it there
+
+01:57:30.940 --> 01:57:38.060
+um i really think we're making a lot of progress you know it is an illusion of consensus
+
+01:57:39.020 --> 01:57:45.100
+that they have created and it is the illusion of consensus that we need to get rid of or get
+
+01:57:45.100 --> 01:57:52.700
+get back from um and so i don't think you can us to underestimate the importance of cracking
+
+01:57:52.700 --> 01:57:59.740
+this illusion of consensus because the illusion of consensus is everything a consensus that vaccines
+
+01:57:59.740 --> 01:58:06.220
+are great a consensus that the mRNA it was rushed but it would otherwise have worked even better
+
+01:58:06.940 --> 01:58:12.300
+a consensus that it's likely a lab leak and they lied about it and the lying about it was actually
+
+01:58:12.300 --> 01:58:18.380
+the best evidence and that because they lied about it was likely gain a function and so it
+
+01:58:18.380 --> 01:58:25.500
+will come again and of course by accepting that you're also accepting that we don't always know
+
+01:58:25.500 --> 01:58:29.100
+how to treat a respiratory disease and doctors don't always know what will work
+
+01:58:29.100 --> 01:58:36.460
+and that there can be a new cause of death that arrives on the scene and and and sweeps the world
+
+01:58:36.460 --> 01:58:43.340
+like a fog but we don't need to look at all cause mortality to see it we don't need to learn how the
+
+01:58:43.340 --> 01:58:48.540
+rest uh the immune system works because it's just antibodies and that's the same way that vaccines
+
+01:58:48.540 --> 01:58:55.820
+work and by misleading our kids about these stupid with this stupid biological principles
+
+01:58:56.700 --> 01:59:01.980
+our kids may never come to realize that the vast majority of people that were killed between
+
+01:59:01.980 --> 01:59:11.660
+2020 and 2023 were killed by protocols and by the transfection rather than by a dangerous novel
+
+01:59:11.660 --> 01:59:15.340
+virus that was released from a laboratory in Rulon and circulated the globe for three years
+
+01:59:16.700 --> 01:59:20.300
+but they're growing up thinking that because that's what the universities tell them that's
+
+01:59:20.300 --> 01:59:24.700
+what the university professors tell them that's what 60 minutes tells them that's what the tv tells
+
+01:59:24.700 --> 01:59:29.500
+them that's the only stuff that facebook allows and that's what tiktok tells them
+
+01:59:30.060 --> 01:59:33.020
+tiktok even tells them that their government's responsible for it
+
+01:59:37.900 --> 01:59:43.500
+and so they have misled our young they have misled us and a planet about the potential for
+
+01:59:43.500 --> 01:59:48.860
+pandemics and they have misled us by an illusion of consensus nobody disagrees with it even the
+
+01:59:48.860 --> 01:59:58.460
+dissidents don't disagree and that's what allowed them to get us to focus on solving the mystery
+
+01:59:58.460 --> 02:00:05.100
+of the Batcave zoneosis instead of considering the fact that we know nothing about the background
+
+02:00:05.100 --> 02:00:12.780
+signal that this would have found had we rolled out this suite of tests in 2019 and it gets you
+
+02:00:12.780 --> 02:00:18.460
+distracted from the fact that an endemic coronavirus signal with a PCR test that could find it would
+
+02:00:18.460 --> 02:00:23.900
+have been enough to roll out deadly protocols and justify the rollout of a
+
+02:00:23.900 --> 02:00:31.100
+transfection across the world they also could have released released an infectious clone to see that
+
+02:00:31.740 --> 02:00:38.300
+very sequence around the world and then use that background coronavirus and that non-specific
+
+02:00:38.300 --> 02:00:42.700
+PCR test to perpetuate it so that they could justify the use of protocols that were murder
+
+02:00:43.340 --> 02:00:48.540
+and roll out a transfection that wasn't medicine it could have been a transfection agent done
+
+02:00:48.540 --> 02:00:54.540
+for the same reasons again no virus doesn't make any sense because we know that there are lots
+
+02:00:54.540 --> 02:01:01.020
+of molecular techniques that could and will transfect can be aerosolized can be applied
+
+02:01:02.300 --> 02:01:07.420
+and we do know that infectious clones are real coronavirus is not being might not be all
+
+02:01:07.420 --> 02:01:10.940
+they're cracked up to be many viruses might not be all they're cracked up to be that's very
+
+02:01:10.940 --> 02:01:13.020
+different than there are no viruses at all
+
+02:01:15.900 --> 02:01:21.180
+protocols were murder transfection is not medicine they led us to believe something by
+
+02:01:21.180 --> 02:01:26.540
+getting us to disregard the old cause mortality to accept a test there wasn't really a test
+
+02:01:27.260 --> 02:01:31.580
+and to ignore the financial incentives that applied that test they don't want you to think
+
+02:01:31.580 --> 02:01:36.380
+about infectious clones is the only way that they can really use RNA against you because they want
+
+02:01:36.460 --> 02:01:42.460
+to invert your rights into privileges and they want you to ask for permission for everything
+
+02:01:42.460 --> 02:01:47.500
+and more importantly they want your kid to ask permission for everything including can I have
+
+02:01:47.500 --> 02:01:54.620
+my medical data back ladies and gentlemen if you'd like to follow me or communicate with me you can
+
+02:01:54.620 --> 02:01:58.940
+do that at giggle and biological.com if you scroll down from the front page you can subscribe
+
+02:01:59.580 --> 02:02:04.300
+and get a notice of when I go on and also occasionally an email which really
+
+02:02:04.380 --> 02:02:08.140
+is kind of falling dead since I've done my everyday streams where we're going to get
+
+02:02:08.140 --> 02:02:12.940
+there eventually I'm just building the stream and building the steam if you want to communicate
+
+02:02:12.940 --> 02:02:17.260
+we also have this thing that's kind of like twitter but it's not just have to put your email in and
+
+02:02:17.260 --> 02:02:21.820
+then you can start chatting with us there you can read everything without without registering
+
+02:02:22.620 --> 02:02:26.620
+and if you want to support with a one-time donation you can do that at the front page as well
+
+02:02:26.620 --> 02:02:32.220
+but that's not necessary the best thing to do would be to share my work so post it everywhere you can
+
+02:02:32.940 --> 02:02:37.340
+take a screenshot of this particular shot to make sure that everybody understands this is the main
+
+02:02:37.340 --> 02:02:42.220
+message intramuscular injection or any combination of substances meant to augment the immune system
+
+02:02:42.220 --> 02:02:47.260
+is dumb and if you want to say it's short and sweet for the current set then just say
+
+02:02:47.260 --> 02:02:52.300
+transfection is not immunization and we need to stop all of that transfection stuff because they
+
+02:02:52.300 --> 02:02:59.820
+are trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary thanks very much for joining me
+
+02:02:59.820 --> 02:03:05.260
+guys don't forget about the broken science initiative I have a lot of really cool
+
+02:03:06.060 --> 02:03:12.060
+I went fast a lot of really cool podcasts and little shorts and Emily's put together so
+
+02:03:12.060 --> 02:03:16.380
+check them out this has been ging on biological see you guys again tomorrow night boy I'm hungry
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+and thirsty whoa
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+so
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+You
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+I think I hear some choppers, I got some choppers over my house, I don't know what to say but
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+Andrew Huff said choppers, other people have had choppers, I got choppers over my house
+
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+every night, I must be over the target.
+
+01:02.800 --> 01:32.800
+Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank
+
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+you, thank you, thank you, thank you
+
+02:02.800 --> 02:32.800
+thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you
+
+02:32.800 --> 03:02.800
+thank you, thank you, thank you
+
+03:02.800 --> 03:32.800
+thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you
+
+03:32.800 --> 04:02.800
+thank you thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you Thank you, thank you
+
+04:02.800 --> 04:04.560
+I found the mummy!
+
+04:04.560 --> 04:08.800
+Well, gang, I guess that wraps up the mystery, and the mummy too!
+
+04:09.800 --> 04:11.800
+We will win!
+
+04:32.800 --> 04:41.800
+Are we doing the city of the A's?
+
+04:41.800 --> 04:42.800
+Yes.
+
+04:42.800 --> 04:46.800
+Are we doing the city of the A's?
+
+04:46.800 --> 04:47.800
+Yes.
+
+04:47.800 --> 04:48.800
+Yes.
+
+04:48.800 --> 04:49.800
+Two days ago.
+
+04:49.800 --> 04:51.800
+What sites did you see?
+
+05:05.800 --> 05:07.800
+Think of a bear and a tummy.
+
+05:07.800 --> 05:08.800
+Ball?
+
+05:08.800 --> 05:09.800
+Ball?
+
+05:09.800 --> 05:10.800
+Ball?
+
+05:10.800 --> 05:12.800
+You don't understand Mr. Brown.
+
+05:12.800 --> 05:15.800
+The bomb is a holy weapon of peace.
+
+05:17.800 --> 05:20.800
+Are we doing the stand on the city of the A's?
+
+05:20.800 --> 05:22.800
+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+05:22.800 --> 05:24.800
+This is KIGO, oh, biological, high-resistance, low-noise,
+
+05:24.800 --> 05:30.800
+information brief brought to you by a biologist at 7th of October, 2023.
+
+05:34.800 --> 05:40.800
+The Nobel Prize has recently been awarded for the extraordinary
+
+05:40.800 --> 05:45.800
+extraordinary vaccines that have saved almost 14 million lives.
+
+05:46.800 --> 05:49.800
+They're misleading the young ladies and gentlemen.
+
+05:49.800 --> 05:51.800
+We've got to put a stop to it.
+
+05:54.800 --> 05:56.800
+They are misleading the young.
+
+05:59.800 --> 06:01.800
+And we've got to put a stop to it.
+
+06:01.800 --> 06:05.800
+We've got to teach them the history before it's erased forever.
+
+06:06.800 --> 06:10.800
+The next generations are being set up with lies.
+
+06:11.800 --> 06:15.800
+We cannot hand over our children to these charlatans.
+
+06:17.800 --> 06:20.800
+It's going to require everyone to stand up.
+
+06:22.800 --> 06:25.800
+Even if you can see the brick wall at the back of the theater,
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+06:25.800 --> 06:27.800
+there are other people who can't.
+
+06:27.800 --> 06:29.800
+We've got to show them.
+
+06:29.800 --> 06:31.800
+We've got to show them.
+
+06:32.800 --> 06:34.800
+There was no spread in New York City infectious clones,
+
+06:34.800 --> 06:43.800
+and the only real threat to placebo batches were likely
+
+06:43.800 --> 06:47.800
+distributed, and transfection in healthy mammals is dumb.
+
+06:48.800 --> 06:52.800
+Protocols were murdered, gained a function in mythology.
+
+06:52.800 --> 06:55.800
+The Scooby-Doo mystery is a real thing,
+
+06:55.800 --> 06:58.800
+and the players are spectacularly committed to lies.
+
+06:58.800 --> 07:00.800
+That's all we got here.
+
+07:01.800 --> 07:06.800
+MUSIC
+
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+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+07:23.800 --> 07:25.800
+This is Giga Home Biological High Resistance Low Noise
+
+07:25.800 --> 07:28.800
+Information Brief brought to you by a biologist.
+
+07:28.800 --> 07:30.800
+My name is Jonathan Cooey.
+
+07:30.800 --> 07:33.800
+I'm coming to you from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
+
+07:33.800 --> 07:36.800
+Like I said, it's the 7th of October, 2023,
+
+07:36.800 --> 07:38.800
+and we've got so much work to do.
+
+07:38.800 --> 07:40.800
+It's kind of absurd.
+
+07:40.800 --> 07:42.800
+So we just have to keep working,
+
+07:42.800 --> 07:46.800
+and that's why, once again, I'm here to tell you
+
+07:46.800 --> 07:48.800
+not to take the debate on social media,
+
+07:48.800 --> 07:50.800
+not to take the debate on television,
+
+07:50.800 --> 07:52.800
+but keep learning the biology,
+
+07:52.800 --> 07:55.800
+keep trying to learn the real history,
+
+07:55.800 --> 07:58.800
+keep trying to learn how money really works,
+
+07:58.800 --> 08:01.800
+and take measures to save your family from this nonsense,
+
+08:01.800 --> 08:04.800
+but definitely, please definitely disengage
+
+08:04.800 --> 08:07.800
+from solving this mystery.
+
+08:07.800 --> 08:10.800
+It's not a mystery that needs solving,
+
+08:10.800 --> 08:14.800
+and that's the reason why we're here at Giga Home Biological,
+
+08:14.800 --> 08:17.800
+because it is not a matter of what is true that counts,
+
+08:17.800 --> 08:20.800
+but a matter of what is perceived to be true,
+
+08:20.800 --> 08:22.800
+and they've known that for a very long time,
+
+08:22.800 --> 08:25.800
+much longer than a few years.
+
+08:25.800 --> 08:30.800
+Chatty GTP is an illusion compared to the amount of control
+
+08:30.800 --> 08:33.800
+that they've had over us through this very mechanism
+
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+of controlling the spectrum of debate
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+08:36.800 --> 08:39.800
+and having a very lively debate within that controlled spectrum
+
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+to make it seem like everybody's free.
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+When in reality, the very perceived reality
+
+08:46.800 --> 08:49.800
+is defined by that debate itself,
+
+08:49.800 --> 08:52.800
+and that's what the intellectual dark web has done to us.
+
+08:52.800 --> 08:56.800
+That's why we keep making these people map discussions,
+
+08:56.800 --> 09:01.800
+because we need to figure out what these people did in 2019
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+09:01.800 --> 09:03.800
+and 2020 and 21,
+
+09:03.800 --> 09:06.800
+so that we can see if there's a consistent pattern of behavior
+
+09:06.800 --> 09:10.800
+fighting for sovereignty and fighting for the sacred,
+
+09:10.800 --> 09:15.800
+and if not, then we need to disengage from them.
+
+09:15.800 --> 09:18.800
+And so we've talked many times,
+
+09:18.800 --> 09:21.800
+but the essential illusion, the essential faith,
+
+09:21.800 --> 09:24.800
+is the idea that there was a novel virus
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+09:24.800 --> 09:26.800
+that everyone was vulnerable to.
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+09:26.800 --> 09:28.800
+The idea that we had to do something,
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+09:28.800 --> 09:30.800
+and that's why we took the extreme measures
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+of giving little kids iPads at home
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+09:33.800 --> 09:35.800
+and shutting down schools,
+
+09:35.800 --> 09:37.800
+shutting down small businesses,
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+09:37.800 --> 09:39.800
+masking children,
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+09:39.800 --> 09:43.800
+separating people from their elderly family members,
+
+09:43.800 --> 09:48.800
+the whole nine yards.
+
+09:48.800 --> 09:49.800
+And if you want to really see through it,
+
+09:49.800 --> 09:51.800
+the easy way to do it is to find people
+
+09:51.800 --> 09:54.800
+who are telling you that this transfection is not immunization.
+
+09:54.800 --> 09:56.800
+Try to find people that are telling you
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+09:56.800 --> 09:59.800
+that intramuscular injection
+
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+of any combination of substances,
+
+10:01.800 --> 10:04.800
+the augment the immune system is a pretty dumb idea.
+
+10:04.800 --> 10:07.800
+And then you'll be able to whittle it down really fast,
+
+10:07.800 --> 10:10.800
+because most people are talking about bioweapons,
+
+10:10.800 --> 10:12.800
+most people are talking about amyloidosis,
+
+10:12.800 --> 10:16.800
+most people are talking about crazy lipid nanoparticle,
+
+10:16.800 --> 10:18.800
+poor quality control,
+
+10:18.800 --> 10:23.800
+and people are talking about DNA contamination.
+
+10:23.800 --> 10:27.800
+And so we're almost there.
+
+10:27.800 --> 10:32.800
+But as long as we stay focused on their little spectrum of debate
+
+10:32.800 --> 10:37.800
+where maybe the mRNA was done or rushed wrong incorrectly,
+
+10:37.800 --> 10:42.800
+Nobel Prize was given to the wrong person for the wrong reason,
+
+10:42.800 --> 10:47.800
+then we're not arguing about what we should be arguing about.
+
+10:47.800 --> 10:51.800
+And we're not asking the right questions.
+
+10:51.800 --> 10:55.800
+I think that's another way to think about it if that helps you better.
+
+10:55.800 --> 10:58.800
+These people have tricked us into asking the wrong questions.
+
+10:58.800 --> 11:01.800
+These people have tricked us into chasing the wrong villains.
+
+11:01.800 --> 11:06.800
+These people have tricked us into trying to solve the wrong mystery.
+
+11:07.800 --> 11:12.800
+And they've given us this illusion of consensus about what that mystery is,
+
+11:12.800 --> 11:16.800
+the illusion of consensus about what the obvious conclusion is,
+
+11:16.800 --> 11:21.800
+the illusion of consensus that we have all come to agree about this
+
+11:21.800 --> 11:25.800
+when we haven't.
+
+11:25.800 --> 11:30.800
+We have discussed recently with Denny Rancour and Peter McCullough on my stream
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+11:30.800 --> 11:36.800
+about the all-cause mortality being quite unrevealing with regard to
+
+11:36.800 --> 11:42.800
+a novel cause of death sweeping the world like a plague.
+
+11:42.800 --> 11:47.800
+The math doesn't support the idea of a novel cause of death
+
+11:47.800 --> 11:52.800
+sweeping the world like a plague.
+
+11:53.800 --> 12:06.800
+And that's a problem because if you say to somebody that there's a new cause of death on Earth
+
+12:06.800 --> 12:09.800
+and that everybody's equally vulnerable to it,
+
+12:09.800 --> 12:14.800
+and then there isn't an increase in all cause mortality across age groups
+
+12:14.800 --> 12:18.800
+that's detectable in temporal relationship to this declaration,
+
+12:18.800 --> 12:21.800
+you have a problem.
+
+12:21.800 --> 12:25.800
+If where there is an outbreak in one geographic location,
+
+12:25.800 --> 12:30.800
+there isn't an outbreak in subsequent nearby geographic locations,
+
+12:30.800 --> 12:35.800
+then you have a problem.
+
+12:35.800 --> 12:39.800
+And that's what seems to have happened in a lot of places in the United States
+
+12:39.800 --> 12:41.800
+and in fact around the world.
+
+12:41.800 --> 12:46.800
+And Denny Rancour's data seems to show a sharp increase
+
+12:46.800 --> 12:51.800
+in all cause mortality as the countermeasures were rolled out
+
+12:51.800 --> 12:54.800
+and specifically the mRNA shot around the world.
+
+12:54.800 --> 12:58.800
+And as would be expected,
+
+12:58.800 --> 13:05.800
+serial exposure to this kind of a reagent
+
+13:05.800 --> 13:11.800
+is going to result in possible cascading effects or avalanche type effects
+
+13:11.800 --> 13:15.800
+in the immune system as the reactivity of the immune system builds.
+
+13:16.800 --> 13:21.800
+Now there's some people that are arguing that IgG4 is showing up
+
+13:21.800 --> 13:25.800
+and so that means that we're building a tolerance to this spike protein
+
+13:25.800 --> 13:27.800
+and that is possible.
+
+13:27.800 --> 13:30.800
+It's possible.
+
+13:30.800 --> 13:33.800
+It's one possible mechanism, one possible outcome,
+
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+but they have no, they can't guarantee that because they don't understand
+
+13:39.800 --> 13:43.800
+the mechanism by which in some people that's occurring
+
+13:43.800 --> 13:47.800
+and in some people it's not.
+
+13:47.800 --> 13:51.800
+In some people they just keep getting repeated respiratory disease
+
+13:51.800 --> 13:56.800
+and repeated somehow become COVID positive again
+
+13:56.800 --> 14:01.800
+or not COVID positive but still sick.
+
+14:01.800 --> 14:05.800
+Long term lack of energy, all the other things that people have
+
+14:05.800 --> 14:11.800
+around this thing called POTS or whatever other description it's had.
+
+14:12.800 --> 14:15.800
+So we're really dealing with something very spectacular because
+
+14:15.800 --> 14:20.800
+even Peter McCullough, a guy who was surrounded from the very beginning
+
+14:20.800 --> 14:23.800
+by people whispering in his ear,
+
+14:23.800 --> 14:28.800
+assuring him with high level national security phone calls
+
+14:28.800 --> 14:32.800
+that this was a national security issue that we needed to be afraid
+
+14:32.800 --> 14:35.800
+of whether we were under attack or whether this was a release.
+
+14:35.800 --> 14:37.800
+We don't know where this is going to go.
+
+14:37.800 --> 14:39.800
+It could be a worst case scenario.
+
+14:39.800 --> 14:44.800
+So you got to be really careful what you say there, Mr. Peter.
+
+14:44.800 --> 14:49.800
+And so for him to be very impressed
+
+14:49.800 --> 14:52.800
+with Denny Rancor's ability to explain,
+
+14:52.800 --> 14:56.800
+yeah, but despite what you think,
+
+14:56.800 --> 14:59.800
+I've cleaned this data up, I've looked at the dates,
+
+14:59.800 --> 15:02.800
+we've only looked at the data that we can trust and we look at many,
+
+15:02.800 --> 15:06.800
+many countries and many, many places we see the same signal.
+
+15:06.800 --> 15:09.800
+Peter needed to hear it from Denny and he did hear it and it was really
+
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+impactual because this was around the same time that Peter had just recently
+
+15:14.800 --> 15:19.800
+come out like I have with the idea that just the whole vaccine schedule in America
+
+15:19.800 --> 15:22.800
+needs some serious reconsideration.
+
+15:22.800 --> 15:24.800
+Then we ran into this character.
+
+15:24.800 --> 15:26.800
+We did a video about him.
+
+15:26.800 --> 15:29.800
+He tweeted some nonsense about how in the hands of,
+
+15:29.800 --> 15:35.800
+in the hands of a competent scientist, PCR is highly accurate, well, duh.
+
+15:35.800 --> 15:37.800
+And then he blocked me.
+
+15:37.800 --> 15:39.800
+And of course that's not surprising, right?
+
+15:39.800 --> 15:43.800
+Because he was involved in the testing and he's involved in perpetuating this idea
+
+15:43.800 --> 15:47.800
+that we have nothing to question about the faith.
+
+15:47.800 --> 15:51.800
+The novel virus is defined specifically by sequencing reactions,
+
+15:51.800 --> 15:53.800
+which are all driven by PCR.
+
+15:53.800 --> 15:55.800
+And that's his wheelhouse.
+
+15:55.800 --> 15:58.800
+And he wants you to believe, just like Kevin McKernan,
+
+15:58.800 --> 16:02.800
+that he has no conflicts of interest with regard to telling you
+
+16:02.800 --> 16:07.800
+that the fidelity of these, these diagnostics and the fidelity of these
+
+16:07.800 --> 16:12.800
+sequencing reactions is beyond, beyond question.
+
+16:12.800 --> 16:16.800
+You can't question the accuracy of these things.
+
+16:16.800 --> 16:19.800
+Even though there are articles where they talk about
+
+16:19.800 --> 16:24.800
+viruses raining down from the sky on the order of 800 million viruses per
+
+16:24.800 --> 16:26.800
+square meter per day.
+
+16:26.800 --> 16:31.800
+Some absurd number like this giant amount of RNA is floating around
+
+16:31.800 --> 16:32.800
+in the world.
+
+16:32.800 --> 16:36.800
+But you know, we can find all these little pieces and put them together
+
+16:36.800 --> 16:39.800
+and convince you that what we're finding is real.
+
+16:39.800 --> 16:46.800
+I think there's a lot of shenanigans going on and I think the behavior
+
+16:46.800 --> 16:50.800
+of these people reveals that it is indeed shenanigans.
+
+16:50.800 --> 16:55.800
+It's not people genuinely fighting for the truth, trying to organize
+
+16:55.800 --> 16:59.800
+around health, freedom and sovereignty over ourselves and our children.
+
+17:00.800 --> 17:04.800
+You know that Kevin McKernan is not fighting for that.
+
+17:04.800 --> 17:09.800
+He's fighting for something to do with personalized weed
+
+17:09.800 --> 17:12.800
+and genetically modified pot plants.
+
+17:12.800 --> 17:19.800
+Philip Buckholtz is making money as a sequencer and as a test maker
+
+17:19.800 --> 17:23.800
+and as an advisor to all the companies that would ever want to take advantage
+
+17:23.800 --> 17:27.800
+of any of this mythology in the future.
+
+17:28.800 --> 17:31.800
+He's asserted himself as a guy who does that for a licks.
+
+17:31.800 --> 17:32.800
+We're really good at that.
+
+17:32.800 --> 17:36.800
+Me and my lab are really good at that.
+
+17:36.800 --> 17:41.800
+100% on board with the idea of a novel virus for which we have to do something
+
+17:41.800 --> 17:45.800
+which we could keep tracking and we should keep sequencing
+
+17:45.800 --> 17:56.800
+and keep making better sequencing technologies and sequencing products for.
+
+17:56.800 --> 18:00.800
+We've looked at these four guys because there's some game being played here
+
+18:00.800 --> 18:04.800
+because it's just really short through the corner.
+
+18:04.800 --> 18:10.800
+George Webb's favorite biological advice comes from Dr. Paul Catrell
+
+18:10.800 --> 18:14.800
+who's not even a doctor even though George Webb says over and over and over
+
+18:14.800 --> 18:18.800
+and over again for three years that Paul Catrell is going to med school
+
+18:18.800 --> 18:22.800
+and was going to med school at the beginning of the pandemic when he wasn't.
+
+18:22.800 --> 18:24.800
+Every once in a while he says it wasn't med school.
+
+18:24.800 --> 18:26.800
+It was something you do before med school.
+
+18:26.800 --> 18:30.800
+So then he's not Dr. Paul Catrell but he is because he has a PhD
+
+18:30.800 --> 18:36.800
+from Walden University in finance where he did chaos theory and bond trading.
+
+18:40.800 --> 18:44.800
+So he's kind of like that guy that does pizza reviews from New York City
+
+18:44.800 --> 18:50.800
+but then this guy is more like the Jurassic Park character
+
+18:50.800 --> 18:58.800
+who did chaos theory so he's like a combination of the guy in Jurassic Park
+
+18:58.800 --> 19:02.800
+with that pizza delivery or the pizza review guy that also traded,
+
+19:02.800 --> 19:06.800
+day traded and made a lot of money like I don't know it's just such a joke to me
+
+19:06.800 --> 19:12.800
+and what becomes more of a joke is that somebody like Robert Malone
+
+19:12.800 --> 19:18.800
+wants us to believe that in his quest to save the world
+
+19:18.800 --> 19:22.800
+he came out on the bread wine steam podcast in the way that he did in June
+
+19:22.800 --> 19:26.800
+and then also he came out on Paul Catrell
+
+19:26.800 --> 19:30.800
+with Paul Catrell and some other radio network enlightenment radio network
+
+19:30.800 --> 19:34.800
+because he's just trying to get the word out there.
+
+19:34.800 --> 19:38.800
+You know because he's got all these connections in government that just ignore him
+
+19:38.800 --> 19:42.800
+so you know what does he got to do he's got to stream with these kinds of people
+
+19:42.800 --> 19:45.800
+even though he used to work with carrot funded bullshit
+
+19:45.800 --> 19:49.800
+carrot funded bullshit has already been on the web all over the place
+
+19:49.800 --> 19:53.800
+for six months before June 21
+
+19:53.800 --> 19:57.800
+Robert Malone comes out and pretends he doesn't even know
+
+19:57.800 --> 20:01.800
+or doesn't even mention that he knows carrot funded bullshit until June of 21
+
+20:01.800 --> 20:05.800
+now all of a sudden yeah okay I'm on Paul Catrell and I know carrot
+
+20:09.800 --> 20:13.800
+it's not good ladies and gentlemen because
+
+20:13.800 --> 20:17.800
+Malone also says that George Webb's a bad guy right but
+
+20:17.800 --> 20:21.800
+but tells you where to find him and Paul Catrell
+
+20:21.800 --> 20:25.800
+was streaming many many many times with Kevin McCarron
+
+20:25.800 --> 20:29.800
+and you know that we followed Charles Rixie and Kevin McCarron
+
+20:29.800 --> 20:33.800
+not too recently or not too long ago
+
+20:33.800 --> 20:37.800
+April 26th on this Vay John health conference which occurred on a Saturday
+
+20:37.800 --> 20:41.800
+and it was Christine Grace followed by Charles Rixie
+
+20:41.800 --> 20:45.800
+and Kevin McCarron
+
+20:45.800 --> 20:49.800
+and these were really quite
+
+20:49.800 --> 20:53.800
+let's say low level poorly organized talks all three of them
+
+20:53.800 --> 20:57.800
+Christine Grace may be very smart and she may have a lot of information
+
+20:57.800 --> 21:01.800
+about how lipid nanoparticles work she may have a lot of information
+
+21:01.800 --> 21:05.800
+about the kinds of things that they can do when they interact with DNA and RNA
+
+21:05.800 --> 21:09.800
+she may have a lot of information about the polarity
+
+21:09.800 --> 21:13.800
+different particles and how that figures into how they cross membranes and that kind of thing
+
+21:13.800 --> 21:17.800
+but the talk that she gave had slides
+
+21:17.800 --> 21:21.800
+that had too much gibberish and
+
+21:21.800 --> 21:25.800
+readable material on it with not a lot of obvious
+
+21:25.800 --> 21:29.800
+messaging and she she skipped a few slides
+
+21:29.800 --> 21:33.800
+every once in a while and she talked very nervous and very fast so
+
+21:33.800 --> 21:37.800
+wasn't pretty difficult to get much from her talk
+
+21:37.800 --> 21:41.800
+then Charles Rixie gave a talk about censorship
+
+21:41.800 --> 21:45.800
+and used a bunch of slides you couldn't read or see what they were but you were supposed to
+
+21:45.800 --> 21:49.800
+take your word for it that that was his
+
+21:49.800 --> 21:53.800
+sub stack or this is a multicolored spreadsheet
+
+21:53.800 --> 21:57.800
+with all the papers that he's read and then Kevin McCarron
+
+21:57.800 --> 22:01.800
+came on and did a I don't know what
+
+22:01.800 --> 22:05.800
+would you call that like if you were a master student giving a
+
+22:05.800 --> 22:09.800
+presentation about amyloid that that's the level it would be at
+
+22:09.800 --> 22:13.800
+it definitely wasn't at the level of somebody who studies it
+
+22:13.800 --> 22:17.800
+or at the level of somebody who's got an idea of the next project he wants to do
+
+22:17.800 --> 22:21.800
+or how he's going to do experiments to prove that this is happening
+
+22:21.800 --> 22:25.800
+he never once really made the argument about why
+
+22:25.800 --> 22:29.800
+this particular virus as opposed to any other virus with a fusion protein
+
+22:29.800 --> 22:33.800
+or any other transfection of any other fusion
+
+22:33.800 --> 22:37.800
+protein would be any less toxic than this one
+
+22:37.800 --> 22:41.800
+he never made an argument about why the
+
+22:41.800 --> 22:45.800
+the virus would be particularly dangerous and the
+
+22:45.800 --> 22:49.800
+transfection would be particularly dangerous or which one would be more dangerous
+
+22:49.800 --> 22:53.800
+when I'm clearly arguing that the transfection is much more dangerous
+
+22:53.800 --> 22:57.800
+than whatever is floating around as the virus even if it's an
+
+22:57.800 --> 23:01.800
+infectious clone and that's what I've been trying to argue from the beginning
+
+23:01.800 --> 23:05.800
+if you're unlucky enough to be sprayed with an infectious clone
+
+23:05.800 --> 23:09.800
+or made to inhale an infectious clone then things bad things will probably happen
+
+23:09.800 --> 23:13.800
+but if you transfect yourself with a
+
+23:13.800 --> 23:17.800
+foreign protein most assuredly you're playing the same game if not
+
+23:17.800 --> 23:21.800
+much much worse with many many many more tissue in
+
+23:21.800 --> 23:25.800
+your body than just the mucosal of your lungs
+
+23:25.800 --> 23:29.800
+and gut and so we're in a big trouble here
+
+23:29.800 --> 23:33.800
+because interestingly enough these stars
+
+23:33.800 --> 23:37.800
+have all crossed again and this illusion of consensus
+
+23:37.800 --> 23:41.800
+seems to have really really strong connections between
+
+23:41.800 --> 23:45.800
+all of these pieces the
+
+23:45.800 --> 23:49.800
+laying down of this worst case scenario
+
+23:49.800 --> 23:53.800
+which was done by people like Paul Catrell
+
+23:53.800 --> 23:57.800
+people like George Webb people like Kevin
+
+23:57.800 --> 24:01.800
+care people like Charles Ricksey people like all
+
+24:01.800 --> 24:05.800
+the people in drastic like me there were screaming very early on
+
+24:05.800 --> 24:09.800
+that this could be a lab leak and unable
+
+24:09.800 --> 24:13.800
+to get the message out that that doesn't mean it's danger as it just means that it's probably more likely
+
+24:13.800 --> 24:17.800
+a man-made thing than it ever is something coming out of a bat cave
+
+24:17.800 --> 24:21.800
+the worst case scenario a billion
+
+24:21.800 --> 24:25.800
+people going to die was something that needed to be seeded
+
+24:25.800 --> 24:29.800
+it had to be something that was whispered in every water cooler
+
+24:29.800 --> 24:33.800
+it was whispered at every coffee room
+
+24:33.800 --> 24:37.800
+it was talked about on every talk show
+
+24:37.800 --> 24:41.800
+behind the scenes and that's what this is about now
+
+24:41.800 --> 24:45.800
+to give you this continued illusion that everything's okay
+
+24:45.800 --> 24:49.800
+that it all worked out people on the TV say look they gave them the Nobel Prize
+
+24:49.800 --> 24:52.800
+you can even point to it for a judge
+
+24:52.800 --> 24:56.800
+Pfizer's guilty of nothing you know because I mean we just used the Nobel Prize
+
+24:56.800 --> 25:00.800
+winning technique I mean what could we have possibly done wrong
+
+25:00.800 --> 25:04.800
+so curiously enough today
+
+25:04.800 --> 25:08.800
+at six o'clock UK time which was around
+
+25:08.800 --> 25:12.800
+one o'clock our time someone sent me a link
+
+25:12.800 --> 25:16.800
+thanks Cara of reflections on the Nobel Prize
+
+25:16.800 --> 25:20.800
+from the mRNA originator
+
+25:20.800 --> 25:24.800
+the mRNA originator
+
+25:24.800 --> 25:28.800
+and who is he talking with Dr. Philip
+
+25:28.800 --> 25:32.800
+Macmillan where do we recognize Dr. Philip
+
+25:32.800 --> 25:36.800
+Macmillan and Vay John Health from well we recognize them of course
+
+25:36.800 --> 25:40.800
+from the Vay John Health Conference just a month ago
+
+25:40.800 --> 25:44.800
+August 26th
+
+25:44.800 --> 25:48.800
+where he hosted
+
+25:48.800 --> 25:52.800
+Kevin McCarron and Charles Ricksey
+
+25:52.800 --> 25:56.800
+the people that are connected to George Webb
+
+25:56.800 --> 26:00.800
+via Paul Cottrell
+
+26:00.800 --> 26:04.800
+people that Robert Malone has streamed
+
+26:04.800 --> 26:08.800
+with like Paul Cottrell and
+
+26:08.800 --> 26:12.800
+incidentally you're going to hear in this interview that
+
+26:12.800 --> 26:16.800
+Robert Malone came first time on Dr. Philip
+
+26:16.800 --> 26:20.800
+Macmillan's Vay John Health stream in June
+
+26:20.800 --> 26:24.800
+of 2021
+
+26:24.800 --> 26:28.800
+the same month that he made his debut
+
+26:28.800 --> 26:32.800
+on Brett Weinstein I just can't believe
+
+26:32.800 --> 26:36.800
+that this happened today and more importantly I can't believe
+
+26:36.800 --> 26:40.800
+the kinds of things that he says unfortunately it's already
+
+26:40.800 --> 26:44.800
+950 so it looks like I'm going to be up a little later
+
+26:44.800 --> 26:48.800
+than I wanted to be up on this Saturday but I am going to be up because it is
+
+26:48.800 --> 26:52.800
+a video that needs to be wrestled with
+
+26:52.800 --> 26:56.800
+it's extraordinary
+
+26:56.800 --> 27:00.800
+hello good evening good afternoon to everyone
+
+27:00.800 --> 27:04.800
+here thank you for joining me for this really really
+
+27:04.800 --> 27:08.800
+fascinating discussion with regards to Robert
+
+27:08.800 --> 27:12.800
+Malone no it's important for people to realize
+
+27:12.800 --> 27:16.800
+that actually I had the first video
+
+27:16.800 --> 27:20.800
+interview with him all the way in June 2021
+
+27:20.800 --> 27:24.800
+and at that time it was just purely by chance
+
+27:24.800 --> 27:28.800
+that I realized subsequently that he was actually
+
+27:28.800 --> 27:32.800
+the inventor the creator of the mRNA
+
+27:32.800 --> 27:36.800
+technology that in itself was a fascinating insight for me
+
+27:36.800 --> 27:40.800
+and since then I have watched him grow from strength
+
+27:40.800 --> 27:44.800
+to strength going across the world and
+
+27:44.800 --> 27:48.800
+effectively impacting the scientific perspective
+
+27:48.800 --> 27:52.800
+and across the world now today is actually
+
+27:52.800 --> 27:56.800
+my birthday and the biggest gift that I've had
+
+27:56.800 --> 28:00.800
+is the fact that we have here Robert Malone with me
+
+28:00.800 --> 28:04.800
+to discuss ideas about mRNA technology
+
+28:04.800 --> 28:08.800
+his history how he felt about the Nobel Prize
+
+28:08.800 --> 28:12.800
+and all these issues together should in truth
+
+28:12.800 --> 28:16.800
+be a remarkable discussion so the first thing that I'm going to do
+
+28:16.800 --> 28:20.800
+is bring Robert in as opposed to just have a quick introduction
+
+28:20.800 --> 28:24.800
+hi Robert how are you? Hi Phillip thanks a lot for having me back
+
+28:24.800 --> 28:28.800
+it's been a long time and a lot of water in the bridge
+
+28:28.800 --> 28:32.800
+absolutely grateful for you asking me to come back onto your broadcast
+
+28:32.800 --> 28:36.800
+well yes as I said it's a tremendous honor for me to actually have you
+
+28:36.800 --> 28:40.800
+because these days you're literally one of the biggest
+
+28:40.800 --> 28:44.800
+voices out there depending on which side of the fence you're on it can be a
+
+28:44.800 --> 28:48.800
+bit of a problem but in truth everybody does hear what you say
+
+28:48.800 --> 28:52.800
+whether they like it or not so with that in view
+
+28:52.800 --> 28:56.800
+can you just give us an introduction of yourself
+
+28:56.800 --> 29:00.800
+Robert let us
+
+29:00.800 --> 29:04.800
+did you just hear that please tell me you heard that without me
+
+29:04.800 --> 29:08.800
+having to reel it back and then I'm going to reel it back and we're all going to enjoy it together like an
+
+29:08.800 --> 29:12.800
+extra potato chip that we didn't know we had
+
+29:12.800 --> 29:16.800
+it does hear what you say whether they like it
+
+29:16.800 --> 29:20.800
+or the biggest voices out there depending on which side
+
+29:20.800 --> 29:24.800
+of the fence you're on it can be a bit of a problem but in truth everybody
+
+29:24.800 --> 29:28.800
+does hear what you say whether they like it or not
+
+29:28.800 --> 29:32.800
+everybody hears what you say
+
+29:32.800 --> 29:36.800
+whether they like it or not it doesn't matter what side of the fence you're on
+
+29:36.800 --> 29:40.800
+isn't that an interesting phenomenon boy I wish I could get my
+
+29:40.800 --> 29:44.800
+message out like that I wish I
+
+29:44.800 --> 29:48.800
+I don't know how he does it despite the censorship
+
+29:48.800 --> 29:52.800
+on either side of the aisle it doesn't matter what side of the issue
+
+29:52.800 --> 29:56.800
+you're on you're gonna hear Robert Malone boy that censorship
+
+29:56.800 --> 30:00.800
+is rough huh I mean that's that's an impressive statement
+
+30:00.800 --> 30:04.800
+so with that in view
+
+30:04.800 --> 30:08.800
+can you just give us an introduction of yourself
+
+30:08.800 --> 30:12.800
+Robert let us let us know a little bit more about you and your background
+
+30:12.800 --> 30:16.800
+here we go so the
+
+30:16.800 --> 30:20.800
+truth of the matter is that I actually live
+
+30:20.800 --> 30:24.800
+and enjoy living a simple life I live on a 54 horse farm in Northern Virginia
+
+30:24.800 --> 30:28.800
+that I homestead it together with my wife Dr. Joel
+
+30:28.800 --> 30:32.800
+Glassville Malone from just being atheists
+
+30:32.800 --> 30:36.800
+I was born in Palo Alto California
+
+30:36.800 --> 30:40.800
+at the Old Stanford Hospital and grew up in the Central Coast California
+
+30:40.800 --> 30:44.800
+moving frequently the son of a
+
+30:44.800 --> 30:48.800
+Mills University train or college train teacher
+
+30:48.800 --> 30:52.800
+and a Stanford trained electrical engineer who was very
+
+30:52.800 --> 30:56.800
+involved in the defense industry and high voltage
+
+30:56.800 --> 31:00.800
+systems I landed in
+
+31:00.800 --> 31:04.800
+high voltage systems is that like high voltage weapons
+
+31:04.800 --> 31:08.800
+I mean what does that mean I he's in the defense
+
+31:08.800 --> 31:12.800
+high voltage systems it's just so silly
+
+31:12.800 --> 31:16.800
+it's gonna get much worse you're gonna gonna believe the kinds of things that he says
+
+31:16.800 --> 31:20.800
+here and as you're listening I want you to try and follow
+
+31:20.800 --> 31:24.800
+along and see if you
+
+31:24.800 --> 31:28.800
+if you hear that bell what I'm indicating is
+
+31:28.800 --> 31:32.800
+I'm saying something that he probably said because
+
+31:32.800 --> 31:36.800
+he was made to say it because somebody
+
+31:36.800 --> 31:40.800
+brought it out somebody reported on it somebody
+
+31:40.800 --> 31:44.800
+said something about it it was never intended to have to be talked about
+
+31:44.800 --> 31:48.800
+but this is the updated list this is this
+
+31:48.800 --> 31:52.800
+October 7th updated who is
+
+31:52.800 --> 31:56.800
+Robert Malone speech and it is spectacular sorry
+
+31:56.800 --> 32:00.800
+yeah and in my youth
+
+32:00.800 --> 32:04.800
+and pretty much grew up in the Santa Barbara metropolitan area
+
+32:04.800 --> 32:08.800
+and then went to university at
+
+32:08.800 --> 32:12.800
+Santa Barbara City College, UC Davis
+
+32:12.800 --> 32:16.800
+Northwestern University, UC San Diego
+
+32:16.800 --> 32:20.800
+in the Salk Institute and
+
+32:20.800 --> 32:24.800
+Northwestern and Harvard Medical School for my final fellowship
+
+32:24.800 --> 32:28.800
+in global clinical research. I'm trained in pathology
+
+32:28.800 --> 32:32.800
+I've also in virology
+
+32:32.800 --> 32:36.800
+immunology molecular biology and was very active
+
+32:36.800 --> 32:40.800
+as a bench researcher really
+
+32:40.800 --> 32:44.800
+beginning about 83 84 kind of cut my teeth with
+
+32:44.800 --> 32:48.800
+HIV and mouse mammary tumor virus which is
+
+32:48.800 --> 32:52.800
+a retrovirus model of breast cancer in mice and then
+
+32:52.800 --> 32:56.800
+through my work in gene transfer first at the
+
+32:56.800 --> 33:00.800
+Salk Institute focusing on retroviral vectors then
+
+33:00.800 --> 33:04.800
+as a assistant professor at UC Davis I grew a
+
+33:04.800 --> 33:08.800
+medium sized non-viral gene
+
+33:08.800 --> 33:12.800
+therapy program was recruited to University of Maryland
+
+33:12.800 --> 33:16.800
+Baltimore where I had additional discoveries that led to
+
+33:16.800 --> 33:20.800
+a whole other field of gene delivery that nobody talks about these days
+
+33:20.800 --> 33:24.800
+having to use to do with pulse electrical fields
+
+33:24.800 --> 33:28.800
+and the founding of a company called Anovio that's still running in San Diego
+
+33:28.800 --> 33:32.800
+using that technology and then
+
+33:32.800 --> 33:36.800
+to the uniform services university of the health sciences
+
+33:36.800 --> 33:40.800
+where I helped create a breast cancer research program
+
+33:40.800 --> 33:44.800
+and issue banking laboratory and research laboratory at Western
+
+33:44.800 --> 33:48.800
+Pennsylvania and then joined
+
+33:48.800 --> 33:52.800
+a company that had just obtained
+
+33:52.800 --> 33:56.800
+the what's called the prime systems contract for
+
+33:56.800 --> 34:00.800
+bio-defense products for the Department of Defense called Dimeport vaccine company
+
+34:00.800 --> 34:04.800
+up in Frederick, Maryland almost across the street from
+
+34:04.800 --> 34:08.800
+Fort Dietrich which is where the United States Army
+
+34:08.800 --> 34:12.800
+medical research group is that used to be the bio warfare
+
+34:12.800 --> 34:16.800
+group but now is the bio-defense group and at that
+
+34:16.800 --> 34:20.800
+in that job in that position I had
+
+34:20.800 --> 34:24.800
+experience with virtually all the major
+
+34:24.800 --> 34:28.800
+well really end minor vaccines that are in development for
+
+34:28.800 --> 34:32.800
+bio-defense for the U.S. Army and defense complex
+
+34:32.800 --> 34:36.800
+which is where I was brought into connection with a lot of
+
+34:36.800 --> 34:40.800
+people that are called you know referred to as deep state
+
+34:40.800 --> 34:44.800
+many people who have CIA connections
+
+34:44.800 --> 34:48.800
+I'm not CIA I've never been CIA I've never been approached by the CIA to the best of
+
+34:48.800 --> 34:52.800
+my knowledge but you can't work in bio-defense and not work with CIA people
+
+34:52.800 --> 34:56.800
+I've also worked for Gates funded nonprofit
+
+34:56.800 --> 35:00.800
+one of the first called the Harris Global TV Vaccine Foundation
+
+35:00.800 --> 35:04.800
+it's defunct now but I know that world pretty well
+
+35:04.800 --> 35:08.800
+I've consulted for PATH which is one of the core gates
+
+35:08.800 --> 35:12.800
+companies and I've worked for a
+
+35:12.800 --> 35:16.800
+for-profit regulatory
+
+35:16.800 --> 35:20.800
+fair sweatshop in Rockville supporting
+
+35:20.800 --> 35:24.800
+FDA related work I've written many
+
+35:24.800 --> 35:28.800
+INDs presented
+
+35:28.800 --> 35:32.800
+to the FDA multiple times written many clinical protocols
+
+35:32.800 --> 35:36.800
+and managed phase one and two and some phase three
+
+35:36.800 --> 35:40.800
+protocols either as a principal investigator
+
+35:40.800 --> 35:44.800
+or as a support person like a clinical
+
+35:44.800 --> 35:48.800
+investigator or safety committee member
+
+35:48.800 --> 35:52.800
+I've was at the tip of the spear
+
+35:52.800 --> 35:56.800
+in bringing forward the vaccine candidate from NewLink
+
+35:56.800 --> 36:00.800
+originally from public health agency Canada and getting
+
+36:00.800 --> 36:04.800
+it sold to a company called Merck that's now the
+
+36:04.800 --> 36:08.800
+only licensed Ebola candidate or Ebola vaccine
+
+36:08.800 --> 36:12.800
+and have been very
+
+36:12.800 --> 36:16.800
+involved in advancing many different bio-defense products
+
+36:16.800 --> 36:20.800
+I've kind of been at the forefront of I think five different outbreaks
+
+36:20.800 --> 36:24.800
+did a lot of drug repurposing
+
+36:24.800 --> 36:28.800
+work with Zika after I determined
+
+36:28.800 --> 36:32.800
+that building a Zika vaccine was not going to be very practical
+
+36:32.800 --> 36:36.800
+and many influenza vaccines I have deep experience
+
+36:36.800 --> 36:40.800
+in influenza and influenza vaccine development
+
+36:40.800 --> 36:44.800
+I'm very familiar with the Novavax
+
+36:44.800 --> 36:48.800
+platform and worked for a long time for a company that uses
+
+36:48.800 --> 36:52.800
+Baccalaureate virus to express proteins in caterpillars
+
+36:52.800 --> 36:56.800
+and I've won over my lifetime well over $10 billion
+
+36:56.800 --> 37:00.800
+in grants and contracts for a variety of companies
+
+37:00.800 --> 37:04.800
+including companies that are
+
+37:04.800 --> 37:08.800
+you know very much beltway bandits
+
+37:08.800 --> 37:12.800
+basically inside DC defense contractors
+
+37:12.800 --> 37:16.800
+I've been granted a secret clearance but my passion
+
+37:16.800 --> 37:20.800
+remains in small farming and my 44 year marriage with
+
+37:20.800 --> 37:24.800
+my wife Dr. Joe Glaspel Malone where high school sweethearts
+
+37:24.800 --> 37:28.800
+and these days we produce Lucetano horses
+
+37:28.800 --> 37:32.800
+here in our farm in Virginia up against the Shenandoah Mountains
+
+37:32.800 --> 37:36.800
+so there's a kind of a broad brush stroke
+
+37:36.800 --> 37:40.800
+of who I am and what I do excellent listen I think
+
+37:40.800 --> 37:42.800
+as I listen to you there I remember
+
+37:42.800 --> 37:46.800
+holy cow that was crazy
+
+37:46.800 --> 37:50.800
+so let me just see
+
+37:50.800 --> 37:54.800
+let me just see if we can do this here
+
+37:54.800 --> 37:58.800
+so he did mouse tumor virus
+
+37:58.800 --> 38:02.800
+he called himself
+
+38:02.800 --> 38:06.800
+he's trained in pathology, virology, immunology, megalactic and molecular biology
+
+38:06.800 --> 38:10.800
+cut his teeth in mouse tumor viruses which was a mouse
+
+38:10.800 --> 38:14.800
+model for breast cancer then he did retroviral vectors
+
+38:14.800 --> 38:18.800
+when he speaks of vectors he's talking about using them to carry DNA
+
+38:18.800 --> 38:22.800
+they're talking about transforming things then
+
+38:22.800 --> 38:26.800
+so like transfection would be with our mRNA but then with DNA
+
+38:26.800 --> 38:30.800
+UC Davis, University of Baltimore
+
+38:30.800 --> 38:34.800
+I missed a lot of stuff in there because there was also
+
+38:34.800 --> 38:38.800
+the part about windber and the breast cancer institute that had
+
+38:38.800 --> 38:42.800
+the really high speed internet pipeline and had access
+
+38:42.800 --> 38:46.800
+to all of the military cancer data
+
+38:46.800 --> 38:50.800
+and he put the husband
+
+38:50.800 --> 38:54.800
+of a postdoc that he had and as a director of
+
+38:54.800 --> 38:58.800
+that institute that's a married couple from Nigeria
+
+38:58.800 --> 39:02.800
+it's just all very strange
+
+39:02.800 --> 39:06.800
+kind of happening there and then that put him in real close proximity to where
+
+39:06.800 --> 39:10.800
+the plane went down in 2001 so that's
+
+39:10.800 --> 39:14.800
+a little strange he's worked for the Gates Foundation and he's worked for a company
+
+39:14.800 --> 39:18.800
+called PAF which was one of the primary guest companies in the Gates Foundation
+
+39:18.800 --> 39:22.800
+or funded by them he also worked for a regulatory
+
+39:22.800 --> 39:26.800
+affairs sweatshop which I don't really know what that is
+
+39:26.800 --> 39:30.800
+he worked with some phase one two and some three trials
+
+39:30.800 --> 39:34.800
+he was tip of the spear of the Ebola vaccine where he brokered the sale
+
+39:34.800 --> 39:38.800
+of the Ebola vaccine candidate from a company called Newlink in Canada
+
+39:38.800 --> 39:42.800
+to Merck. He was involved in a
+
+39:42.800 --> 39:46.800
+under a lot of biodefense products I apologize you can't read that
+
+39:46.800 --> 39:51.800
+drug repurposing for Zika influenza vaccine development
+
+39:51.800 --> 39:54.800
+baculovirus and caterpillars
+
+39:54.800 --> 39:58.800
+and he's got what is this
+
+39:58.800 --> 40:02.800
+he got 10 billion I thought it was like
+
+40:02.800 --> 40:06.800
+2 billion now he says it's 10 billion for
+
+40:06.800 --> 40:10.800
+beltway banded companies so he sounds like a really great guy
+
+40:10.800 --> 40:14.800
+but really right now he's into his 44 year
+
+40:14.800 --> 40:18.800
+marriage with his college or his high school sweetheart
+
+40:18.800 --> 40:22.800
+and raising Lucetano horses so
+
+40:22.800 --> 40:26.800
+holy crap that's interesting I would say
+
+40:26.800 --> 40:30.800
+there's quite a bit in that narrative that wouldn't be there
+
+40:30.800 --> 40:34.800
+hadn't been for the work of some of the people that you
+
+40:34.800 --> 40:38.800
+follow some of the people that we trust
+
+40:38.800 --> 40:42.800
+so thanks to all those people especially Mark Gulag
+
+40:45.800 --> 40:49.800
+well the first time that I had an interview with Gert
+
+40:49.800 --> 40:53.800
+and he went through his background and I thought oh my goodness
+
+40:53.800 --> 40:56.800
+no wonder it is a worry
+
+40:56.800 --> 41:00.800
+when you say something that is counter to the narrative
+
+41:00.800 --> 41:03.800
+and we're going to be coming into that in a moment
+
+41:03.800 --> 41:07.800
+but I think it's very important to start with
+
+41:07.800 --> 41:11.800
+that question of mRNA technology
+
+41:11.800 --> 41:16.800
+now in all of the background that you have listed
+
+41:16.800 --> 41:19.800
+I don't hear a lot about
+
+41:19.800 --> 41:23.800
+the work or that original work with
+
+41:23.800 --> 41:27.800
+mRNA why did you not continue
+
+41:27.800 --> 41:31.800
+after you had that experience of the breakthrough
+
+41:31.800 --> 41:35.800
+in thinking so you would have been at that cutting edge
+
+41:35.800 --> 41:39.800
+as you said in Salk Institute you had that moment where you
+
+41:39.800 --> 41:44.800
+envisioned it why did it not continue
+
+41:44.800 --> 41:49.800
+well not only envisioned it but I left the Salk
+
+41:49.800 --> 41:53.800
+because of the politics that were going on over the patents
+
+41:53.800 --> 41:57.800
+with a diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder
+
+41:57.800 --> 42:02.800
+my mentor is now out
+
+42:02.800 --> 42:06.800
+and basically is being a very abusive person
+
+42:06.800 --> 42:11.800
+but I continued that work at a small startup
+
+42:11.800 --> 42:15.800
+across the street called Vaikal and it's at Vaikal
+
+42:15.800 --> 42:18.800
+that we had the additional discovery of naked DNA
+
+42:18.800 --> 42:21.800
+and RNA delivery into mouse muscle
+
+42:21.800 --> 42:23.800
+and the reduction of practice of all of this
+
+42:23.800 --> 42:26.800
+for the purpose of vaccination
+
+42:26.800 --> 42:30.800
+so we demonstrated there that you could inoculate
+
+42:30.800 --> 42:34.800
+mice with the messenger RNA that I had synthesized
+
+42:34.800 --> 42:39.800
+and caused them to mount an immune response against the encoded protein
+
+42:39.800 --> 42:43.800
+and so is that where the patents come from
+
+42:43.800 --> 42:46.800
+because yeah looking behind you
+
+42:46.800 --> 42:49.800
+there was a number of patent filed
+
+42:49.800 --> 42:54.800
+so the original patent disclosure was made at the Salk in 1987 or 88
+
+42:54.800 --> 42:58.800
+and then a patent was filed from the Salk
+
+42:58.800 --> 43:02.800
+and I never got a straight answer
+
+43:02.800 --> 43:05.800
+when I left the Salk it was still pending
+
+43:05.800 --> 43:08.800
+they had first determined that I was a sole inventor
+
+43:08.800 --> 43:11.800
+and then they put my mentor on it
+
+43:11.800 --> 43:14.800
+and then I left and went to Vaikal
+
+43:14.800 --> 43:17.800
+and I asked the Salk a few years later
+
+43:17.800 --> 43:20.800
+what happened to that patent because they're supposed to just
+
+43:20.800 --> 43:24.800
+they're supposed to notify the inventors of any actions they take under
+
+43:24.800 --> 43:27.800
+the Baidole Act in the United States
+
+43:27.800 --> 43:30.800
+and they had unilaterally decided to abandon the patent
+
+43:30.800 --> 43:33.800
+at the time when my mentor, Interverma,
+
+43:33.800 --> 43:37.800
+had been a consultant to the company Vaikal
+
+43:37.800 --> 43:40.800
+so the Salk patent would have interfered with the Vaikal patents
+
+43:40.800 --> 43:42.800
+and it was dropped
+
+43:42.800 --> 43:44.800
+Can I just ask the chat?
+
+43:44.800 --> 43:48.800
+Did they flash to the second camera yet?
+
+43:48.800 --> 43:51.800
+Is that why you're saying why did he put patents on the wall
+
+43:51.800 --> 43:53.800
+or did they flash to a second camera yet?
+
+43:53.800 --> 43:55.800
+Yes or no?
+
+43:55.800 --> 43:59.800
+Anybody in the chat did because there's a second camera coming up soon
+
+44:00.800 --> 44:04.800
+and then the Vaikal patents there was nine of them
+
+44:04.800 --> 44:06.800
+that came out of their original filings
+
+44:06.800 --> 44:07.800
+Watch your cover
+
+44:07.800 --> 44:09.800
+kind of 1990-1991
+
+44:09.800 --> 44:10.800
+He's going to trigger it himself
+
+44:10.800 --> 44:11.800
+They issued
+
+44:11.800 --> 44:15.800
+and then we had, Jill and I had a subsequent patent
+
+44:15.800 --> 44:17.800
+actually multiple patents
+
+44:17.800 --> 44:19.800
+you know that's
+
+44:19.800 --> 44:21.800
+as shown behind me
+
+44:21.800 --> 44:22.800
+Nice
+
+44:22.800 --> 44:25.800
+and they cover the formulations
+
+44:26.800 --> 44:29.800
+You see he's got a button he triggers it with
+
+44:29.800 --> 44:31.800
+he's got to look down to see which button he pushes
+
+44:31.800 --> 44:32.800
+on his little streamer thing
+
+44:32.800 --> 44:35.800
+so he can get that patent wall side shot
+
+44:35.800 --> 44:39.800
+That was brilliant
+
+44:39.800 --> 44:41.800
+Okay, so one was
+
+44:41.800 --> 44:43.800
+purchased by the army
+
+44:43.800 --> 44:45.800
+use of various
+
+44:45.800 --> 44:46.800
+candidate lipids
+
+44:46.800 --> 44:49.800
+we were the first ones to put cholesterol into the formulations
+
+44:49.800 --> 44:52.800
+we came up with solutions to the endotoxin problem
+
+44:52.800 --> 44:53.800
+et cetera et cetera
+
+44:54.800 --> 44:56.800
+but we were way ahead of our time
+
+44:56.800 --> 44:59.800
+and Vaikal when I left
+
+44:59.800 --> 45:03.800
+I had signed an employment agreement
+
+45:03.800 --> 45:05.800
+that among other things
+
+45:05.800 --> 45:08.800
+resulted in my getting compensated for the patents
+
+45:08.800 --> 45:10.800
+with one US dollar
+
+45:10.800 --> 45:14.800
+but I also
+
+45:14.800 --> 45:17.800
+signed away any rights to work in that field
+
+45:17.800 --> 45:18.800
+subsequently
+
+45:18.800 --> 45:21.800
+and at one point I got a
+
+45:21.800 --> 45:25.800
+cease and desist letter from the CEO of Vaikal
+
+45:25.800 --> 45:28.800
+BJ Simone who used to be at Merck
+
+45:28.800 --> 45:31.800
+that I should not do any research
+
+45:31.800 --> 45:33.800
+as an academic
+
+45:33.800 --> 45:35.800
+directly relating to what I had done
+
+45:35.800 --> 45:37.800
+when I was at Vaikal
+
+45:37.800 --> 45:38.800
+so
+
+45:38.800 --> 45:41.800
+Vaikal was very aggressive about the intellectual property
+
+45:41.800 --> 45:43.800
+they sold it to Merck
+
+45:43.800 --> 45:45.800
+Merck tried to make DNA vaccines work
+
+45:45.800 --> 45:47.800
+they thought RNA wasn't going to be
+
+45:47.800 --> 45:49.800
+feasible to manufacture
+
+45:49.800 --> 45:51.800
+they failed
+
+45:51.800 --> 45:53.800
+they spent over two billion
+
+45:53.800 --> 45:55.800
+they turned the IP back to
+
+45:55.800 --> 45:57.800
+to Vaikal
+
+45:57.800 --> 45:59.800
+and Vaikal burned about a billion
+
+45:59.800 --> 46:01.800
+or a billion and a half
+
+46:01.800 --> 46:03.800
+and they failed
+
+46:03.800 --> 46:05.800
+but what they did do through that whole time
+
+46:05.800 --> 46:07.800
+is very aggressively block anybody
+
+46:07.800 --> 46:09.800
+that would work on DNA
+
+46:09.800 --> 46:11.800
+or RNA vaccines
+
+46:11.800 --> 46:13.800
+until the patents expired
+
+46:13.800 --> 46:15.800
+and then after the patents expired
+
+46:15.800 --> 46:17.800
+the market cap for Vaikal
+
+46:17.800 --> 46:19.800
+basically crashed
+
+46:19.800 --> 46:21.800
+and the company
+
+46:21.800 --> 46:23.800
+was basically merged
+
+46:23.800 --> 46:25.800
+for less than cash value
+
+46:25.800 --> 46:27.800
+so it's
+
+46:27.800 --> 46:29.800
+I don't think the patents
+
+46:29.800 --> 46:31.800
+expired in 2001 though
+
+46:31.800 --> 46:33.800
+and I think Mark has shown
+
+46:33.800 --> 46:35.800
+that
+
+46:35.800 --> 46:37.800
+the patent or rather the stock
+
+46:37.800 --> 46:39.800
+of Vaikal crashed or ended
+
+46:39.800 --> 46:41.800
+pretty much in September or October
+
+46:41.800 --> 46:43.800
+of 2001 right?
+
+46:43.800 --> 46:45.800
+isn't that right?
+
+46:45.800 --> 46:47.800
+so that's weird
+
+46:47.800 --> 46:49.800
+yeah the line glows
+
+46:49.800 --> 46:51.800
+that's for sure
+
+46:51.800 --> 46:53.800
+not where you then start
+
+46:53.800 --> 46:55.800
+to speak about your work
+
+46:55.800 --> 46:57.800
+because before that you
+
+46:57.800 --> 46:59.800
+couldn't I really couldn't
+
+46:59.800 --> 47:01.800
+yeah well no at that point
+
+47:01.800 --> 47:03.800
+in all this work that we did
+
+47:03.800 --> 47:05.800
+mostly at UC Davis
+
+47:05.800 --> 47:07.800
+with the different positively charged
+
+47:07.800 --> 47:09.800
+fats and the pharmacology
+
+47:09.800 --> 47:11.800
+and biology and mechanism
+
+47:11.800 --> 47:13.800
+of action work
+
+47:13.800 --> 47:17.800
+we had done a lot of work
+
+47:17.800 --> 47:19.800
+on trying to develop gene therapy
+
+47:19.800 --> 47:21.800
+for cystic fibrosis
+
+47:21.800 --> 47:25.800
+involving pulmonary
+
+47:25.800 --> 47:27.800
+or intratricular inoculation
+
+47:27.800 --> 47:29.800
+of these formulations in mice
+
+47:29.800 --> 47:31.800
+and in monkeys in non-human
+
+47:31.800 --> 47:33.800
+primates
+
+47:33.800 --> 47:35.800
+and also the basics
+
+47:35.800 --> 47:37.800
+of delivery and equipment
+
+47:37.800 --> 47:39.800
+but he said that the patents
+
+47:39.800 --> 47:41.800
+expired and Vaikal
+
+47:41.800 --> 47:43.800
+prevented anybody from using the
+
+47:43.800 --> 47:45.800
+mRNA technology until the
+
+47:45.800 --> 47:47.800
+patents expired and then in the
+
+47:47.800 --> 47:49.800
+patents expired
+
+47:49.800 --> 47:51.800
+their stock crashed
+
+47:51.800 --> 47:53.800
+but I don't think the patents
+
+47:53.800 --> 47:55.800
+that he had would have expired in
+
+47:55.800 --> 47:57.800
+2001 correct me if I'm wrong
+
+47:57.800 --> 47:59.800
+someone in the chat
+
+47:59.800 --> 48:01.800
+that's weird
+
+48:01.800 --> 48:03.800
+putting jet injection and post-electural
+
+48:03.800 --> 48:05.800
+field we were starting with some
+
+48:05.800 --> 48:07.800
+in gold particle delivery
+
+48:07.800 --> 48:09.800
+which is another technology in this mix
+
+48:09.800 --> 48:11.800
+that is gone by the wayside
+
+48:11.800 --> 48:13.800
+and with the
+
+48:13.800 --> 48:15.800
+positively charged fat formulations
+
+48:15.800 --> 48:17.800
+we could never overcome the toxicity
+
+48:17.800 --> 48:19.800
+they're highly highly inflammatory
+
+48:19.800 --> 48:23.800
+and so we moved on to other
+
+48:23.800 --> 48:25.800
+delivery technologies that were more
+
+48:25.800 --> 48:27.800
+efficient including post-electrical
+
+48:27.800 --> 48:29.800
+fields that didn't have the
+
+48:29.800 --> 48:31.800
+toxicity
+
+48:31.800 --> 48:33.800
+and primarily focused on the DNA
+
+48:33.800 --> 48:35.800
+delivery not the RNA although we
+
+48:35.800 --> 48:37.800
+did get a very broad patent
+
+48:37.800 --> 48:39.800
+on mucosal vaccines
+
+48:39.800 --> 48:41.800
+that covered virtually any gene therapy
+
+48:41.800 --> 48:45.800
+vector
+
+48:45.800 --> 48:47.800
+but I couldn't get any of that funded
+
+48:47.800 --> 48:49.800
+I got recruited to
+
+48:49.800 --> 48:51.800
+Umariland
+
+48:51.800 --> 48:53.800
+and we did the electroporation work
+
+48:53.800 --> 48:55.800
+and I wrote what I think was
+
+48:55.800 --> 48:57.800
+probably one of my best
+
+48:57.800 --> 48:59.800
+personal proposals ever
+
+48:59.800 --> 49:01.800
+and it went into
+
+49:01.800 --> 49:03.800
+the NIH for review and it was
+
+49:03.800 --> 49:05.800
+rejected based on
+
+49:05.800 --> 49:07.800
+the fat. So he said this a
+
+49:07.800 --> 49:09.800
+couple times and it's just dawned
+
+49:09.800 --> 49:11.800
+on me
+
+49:11.800 --> 49:13.800
+listen
+
+49:13.800 --> 49:15.800
+any of that funded
+
+49:15.800 --> 49:17.800
+you know
+
+49:17.800 --> 49:19.800
+it covered virtually any
+
+49:19.800 --> 49:21.800
+gene therapy very broad patent
+
+49:21.800 --> 49:23.800
+just on the DNA delivery
+
+49:23.800 --> 49:25.800
+not the RNA already did get
+
+49:25.800 --> 49:27.800
+a very broad patent on mucosal
+
+49:27.800 --> 49:29.800
+vaccines that covered virtually
+
+49:29.800 --> 49:31.800
+any gene therapy vector
+
+49:31.800 --> 49:33.800
+just on the DNA delivery
+
+49:33.800 --> 49:35.800
+not the RNA although we did get a
+
+49:35.800 --> 49:37.800
+very broad patent on
+
+49:37.800 --> 49:39.800
+mucosal vaccines that covered
+
+49:39.800 --> 49:41.800
+virtually any gene therapy
+
+49:41.800 --> 49:43.800
+vector. I want you to think about
+
+49:43.800 --> 49:45.800
+this video that I've seen on
+
+49:45.800 --> 49:49.800
+the internet for a second
+
+49:49.800 --> 49:51.800
+I've seen this video on the internet
+
+49:51.800 --> 49:53.800
+about patent trolls
+
+49:53.800 --> 49:55.800
+and patent trolls are these people
+
+49:55.800 --> 49:57.800
+that have a patent
+
+49:57.800 --> 49:59.800
+that seems to apply to a broad
+
+49:59.800 --> 50:01.800
+you know like I don't know
+
+50:01.800 --> 50:03.800
+one of the kinds of patent trolls
+
+50:03.800 --> 50:05.800
+that I understand
+
+50:05.800 --> 50:07.800
+that's out there is somebody
+
+50:07.800 --> 50:09.800
+has a patent
+
+50:09.800 --> 50:11.800
+on website
+
+50:11.800 --> 50:13.800
+reviews,
+
+50:13.800 --> 50:15.800
+website product reviews
+
+50:15.800 --> 50:17.800
+on a website
+
+50:17.800 --> 50:19.800
+and so they go around
+
+50:19.800 --> 50:21.800
+suing medium to small sized
+
+50:21.800 --> 50:23.800
+web based
+
+50:23.800 --> 50:25.800
+businesses
+
+50:25.800 --> 50:27.800
+that have reviews on their website
+
+50:27.800 --> 50:29.800
+and sue them for
+
+50:29.800 --> 50:31.800
+patent infringement
+
+50:31.800 --> 50:33.800
+and this is called
+
+50:33.800 --> 50:35.800
+patent trolling
+
+50:35.800 --> 50:37.800
+and it only happens in certain
+
+50:37.800 --> 50:39.800
+jurisdictions in America
+
+50:39.800 --> 50:41.800
+but it's a real thing
+
+50:41.800 --> 50:43.800
+now what Robert Malone just said
+
+50:43.800 --> 50:45.800
+there
+
+50:45.800 --> 50:47.800
+is
+
+50:47.800 --> 50:49.800
+what he said there
+
+50:49.800 --> 50:51.800
+is
+
+50:51.800 --> 50:53.800
+that he had a broad patent
+
+50:53.800 --> 50:57.800
+on mucosal genetic vaccines
+
+50:57.800 --> 50:59.800
+can you imagine the possibility
+
+50:59.800 --> 51:01.800
+that if this patent
+
+51:01.800 --> 51:03.800
+exists right now
+
+51:03.800 --> 51:05.800
+that he could potentially
+
+51:05.800 --> 51:07.800
+patent troll
+
+51:07.800 --> 51:09.800
+any company
+
+51:09.800 --> 51:11.800
+that violates his patent
+
+51:11.800 --> 51:15.800
+and especially now that he's
+
+51:15.800 --> 51:17.800
+motivated by
+
+51:17.800 --> 51:19.800
+this PTSD
+
+51:19.800 --> 51:21.800
+that he got diagnosed with
+
+51:21.800 --> 51:23.800
+as a result of
+
+51:23.800 --> 51:25.800
+his interaction with this VICO company
+
+51:25.800 --> 51:27.800
+and his terribly abusive
+
+51:27.800 --> 51:29.800
+ender verma
+
+51:29.800 --> 51:31.800
+whose career also seems to have
+
+51:31.800 --> 51:33.800
+been kind of ruined by these patents
+
+51:33.800 --> 51:35.800
+one of which was purchased by
+
+51:35.800 --> 51:37.800
+the army. He casually
+
+51:37.800 --> 51:39.800
+mentions the endotoxin problem
+
+51:39.800 --> 51:41.800
+which is also a new
+
+51:41.800 --> 51:43.800
+game piece on the board along with
+
+51:43.800 --> 51:45.800
+the DNA
+
+51:45.800 --> 51:47.800
+and the endotoxin problem was
+
+51:47.800 --> 51:49.800
+especially just added
+
+51:49.800 --> 51:51.800
+to the game board
+
+51:51.800 --> 51:53.800
+by another than Josh
+
+51:53.800 --> 51:55.800
+Getsko, a guy who's been
+
+51:55.800 --> 51:57.800
+on my program before
+
+51:57.800 --> 51:59.800
+and who was on John Campbell's
+
+51:59.800 --> 52:01.800
+stream on YouTube a couple of days ago
+
+52:01.800 --> 52:03.800
+talking about the DNA
+
+52:03.800 --> 52:05.800
+contamination but also
+
+52:05.800 --> 52:07.800
+the endotoxin, the cell wall
+
+52:07.800 --> 52:09.800
+of the bacteria that's used
+
+52:09.800 --> 52:11.800
+to generate the DNA that
+
+52:11.800 --> 52:13.800
+generates the RNA
+
+52:13.800 --> 52:15.800
+VICO sold patents to Merck,
+
+52:15.800 --> 52:17.800
+sold them back to VICO,
+
+52:17.800 --> 52:19.800
+then we have this incongruency between
+
+52:19.800 --> 52:21.800
+when those patents expired and when
+
+52:21.800 --> 52:23.800
+VICO's stock crashed in
+
+52:23.800 --> 52:25.800
+2021 or
+
+52:25.800 --> 52:27.800
+2001.
+
+52:27.800 --> 52:29.800
+He mentions pulse electric
+
+52:29.800 --> 52:31.800
+fields twice. He also talks about
+
+52:31.800 --> 52:33.800
+gold particles. We've talked about all of
+
+52:33.800 --> 52:35.800
+those as ways to
+
+52:35.800 --> 52:37.800
+transfect and to transform
+
+52:37.800 --> 52:39.800
+animals and tissues and cell
+
+52:39.800 --> 52:41.800
+cultures and we've
+
+52:41.800 --> 52:43.800
+stated over and over again that you
+
+52:43.800 --> 52:45.800
+were depending on whether you use
+
+52:45.800 --> 52:47.800
+mRNA or DNA you would call it
+
+52:47.800 --> 52:49.800
+transfection or
+
+52:49.800 --> 52:51.800
+transfection respectively.
+
+52:51.800 --> 52:53.800
+DNA versus RNA decided
+
+52:53.800 --> 52:55.800
+to stick with DNA
+
+52:55.800 --> 52:57.800
+and pulse electric fields so that
+
+52:57.800 --> 52:59.800
+he mentions again
+
+52:59.800 --> 53:01.800
+remember this is key
+
+53:01.800 --> 53:03.800
+that we were granted a broad
+
+53:03.800 --> 53:05.800
+patent on mucosal genetic
+
+53:05.800 --> 53:07.800
+vaccines and that's very
+
+53:07.800 --> 53:09.800
+interesting because going
+
+53:09.800 --> 53:11.800
+forward there's going to be a lot of
+
+53:11.800 --> 53:13.800
+those because as I've
+
+53:13.800 --> 53:15.800
+stated at the beginning we are
+
+53:15.800 --> 53:17.800
+going to transition away from
+
+53:17.800 --> 53:19.800
+vascular injection because we are going
+
+53:19.800 --> 53:21.800
+to come to the realization in the coming
+
+53:21.800 --> 53:23.800
+years I guarantee it
+
+53:23.800 --> 53:25.800
+that rejecting
+
+53:25.800 --> 53:27.800
+the American
+
+53:27.800 --> 53:29.800
+way too early
+
+53:29.800 --> 53:31.800
+way too aggressive
+
+53:31.800 --> 53:33.800
+way too often
+
+53:33.800 --> 53:35.800
+way too many targets
+
+53:35.800 --> 53:37.800
+immunization schedule
+
+53:37.800 --> 53:39.800
+was the right idea
+
+53:39.800 --> 53:41.800
+and it could be that
+
+53:41.800 --> 53:43.800
+20 years from now there are a couple
+
+53:43.800 --> 53:45.800
+vaccines that are accepted as
+
+53:45.800 --> 53:47.800
+as
+
+53:47.800 --> 53:49.800
+a subcutaneous
+
+53:49.800 --> 53:51.800
+vaccines that can work
+
+53:51.800 --> 53:53.800
+there could be some that you take
+
+53:53.800 --> 53:55.800
+orally but we're going to be getting
+
+53:55.800 --> 53:57.800
+rid of most are all
+
+53:57.800 --> 53:59.800
+intramuscular vaccines I am
+
+53:59.800 --> 54:01.800
+sure of it because we are
+
+54:01.800 --> 54:03.800
+we are just not augmenting the
+
+54:03.800 --> 54:05.800
+immune system the way that we think we
+
+54:05.800 --> 54:07.800
+are and it's curious if he's
+
+54:07.800 --> 54:09.800
+positioning himself
+
+54:09.800 --> 54:11.800
+as a patent troll just letting
+
+54:11.800 --> 54:13.800
+everybody know
+
+54:13.800 --> 54:15.800
+every time I go out on one of these
+
+54:15.800 --> 54:17.800
+little podcasts I'm just going to drop
+
+54:17.800 --> 54:19.800
+that there you know that whole wall
+
+54:19.800 --> 54:21.800
+of patents back there some of them still
+
+54:21.800 --> 54:23.800
+exist one of them
+
+54:23.800 --> 54:25.800
+is for a very broad patent
+
+54:25.800 --> 54:27.800
+on mucosal
+
+54:27.800 --> 54:29.800
+genetic base back scenes
+
+54:29.800 --> 54:31.800
+that's pretty impressive
+
+54:35.800 --> 54:37.800
+but
+
+54:37.800 --> 54:39.800
+I couldn't get any of that funded
+
+54:39.800 --> 54:41.800
+I got recruited to
+
+54:41.800 --> 54:43.800
+U Maryland
+
+54:43.800 --> 54:45.800
+and we did the
+
+54:45.800 --> 54:47.800
+electroporation work and I wrote
+
+54:47.800 --> 54:49.800
+what I think was probably one of my
+
+54:49.800 --> 54:51.800
+best personal proposals ever
+
+54:51.800 --> 54:53.800
+and it went into
+
+54:53.800 --> 54:55.800
+the NIH for review and it was
+
+54:55.800 --> 54:57.800
+rejected based on
+
+54:57.800 --> 54:59.800
+the fact
+
+54:59.800 --> 55:01.800
+quote-unquote that Merck had already
+
+55:01.800 --> 55:03.800
+solved the delivery problem which
+
+55:03.800 --> 55:05.800
+of course they hadn't but
+
+55:05.800 --> 55:07.800
+this is the way things are and when
+
+55:07.800 --> 55:09.800
+you're a soft money
+
+55:09.800 --> 55:11.800
+young investigator
+
+55:11.800 --> 55:13.800
+you you don't have
+
+55:13.800 --> 55:15.800
+too many times it back
+
+55:15.800 --> 55:17.800
+that doesn't really sound like a
+
+55:17.800 --> 55:19.800
+jiving story to me and I'm
+
+55:19.800 --> 55:21.800
+going to tell you why
+
+55:21.800 --> 55:23.800
+because I don't think
+
+55:23.800 --> 55:25.800
+the NIH would
+
+55:25.800 --> 55:27.800
+solve the delivery problem which
+
+55:27.800 --> 55:29.800
+of course they hadn't
+
+55:29.800 --> 55:31.800
+but this is the way things are
+
+55:31.800 --> 55:33.800
+and when you're a soft money
+
+55:33.800 --> 55:35.800
+young investigator
+
+55:35.800 --> 55:37.800
+you don't have too many
+
+55:37.800 --> 55:39.800
+questions about why because I don't
+
+55:39.800 --> 55:41.800
+think the NIH would cite
+
+55:41.800 --> 55:43.800
+Merck as a reason
+
+55:43.800 --> 55:45.800
+why you would reject someone's
+
+55:45.800 --> 55:47.800
+proposal
+
+55:47.800 --> 55:49.800
+unless Merck published it in a
+
+55:49.800 --> 55:51.800
+nature article or unless Merck
+
+55:51.800 --> 55:53.800
+published it in a journal
+
+55:53.800 --> 55:55.800
+like you wouldn't just say no
+
+55:55.800 --> 55:57.800
+Merck's already solved that
+
+55:57.800 --> 55:59.800
+that's not how grants get
+
+55:59.800 --> 56:01.800
+rejected
+
+56:01.800 --> 56:03.800
+and a pharmaceutical company would
+
+56:03.800 --> 56:05.800
+be a very odd
+
+56:05.800 --> 56:07.800
+use as a rejection
+
+56:07.800 --> 56:09.800
+as a basis for rejection
+
+56:09.800 --> 56:11.800
+and in fact I would think
+
+56:11.800 --> 56:13.800
+it would be pretty easy to file
+
+56:13.800 --> 56:15.800
+an appeal in that scenario
+
+56:15.800 --> 56:17.800
+it smells
+
+56:17.800 --> 56:19.800
+fishy to me
+
+56:19.800 --> 56:21.800
+it's just another way of making
+
+56:21.800 --> 56:23.800
+him seem like he's like the victim
+
+56:23.800 --> 56:25.800
+and he's been
+
+56:25.800 --> 56:27.800
+fighting big pharma for a long time
+
+56:27.800 --> 56:29.800
+or something like that and I don't
+
+56:29.800 --> 56:31.800
+think that at all
+
+56:31.800 --> 56:33.800
+I think he's been trying to
+
+56:33.800 --> 56:35.800
+catch on to the freight train
+
+56:35.800 --> 56:37.800
+of money that is
+
+56:37.800 --> 56:39.800
+the speeding
+
+56:39.800 --> 56:41.800
+global pharmaceutical industry
+
+56:41.800 --> 56:43.800
+and occasionally when you try to grab onto a moving
+
+56:43.800 --> 56:45.800
+freight train you can get hurt
+
+56:45.800 --> 56:47.800
+or it doesn't work out the way you think
+
+56:47.800 --> 56:49.800
+or when you jump off
+
+56:49.800 --> 56:51.800
+you know it's not perfect you land somewhere
+
+56:51.800 --> 56:53.800
+you didn't mean to land but I mean come on
+
+56:53.800 --> 56:55.800
+let's be real here
+
+56:55.800 --> 56:57.800
+I guess cricket
+
+56:57.800 --> 56:59.800
+would have to be the metaphor for you
+
+56:59.800 --> 57:01.800
+for me it's baseball
+
+57:01.800 --> 57:03.800
+but you know if you don't hit it out of the park
+
+57:03.800 --> 57:05.800
+as a
+
+57:05.800 --> 57:07.800
+soft money investigator
+
+57:07.800 --> 57:09.800
+you're out
+
+57:09.800 --> 57:11.800
+that's true
+
+57:11.800 --> 57:13.800
+that's true I think that's true now too
+
+57:13.800 --> 57:15.800
+I mean young investigators
+
+57:15.800 --> 57:17.800
+especially
+
+57:17.800 --> 57:19.800
+young white
+
+57:19.800 --> 57:21.800
+male investigators
+
+57:21.800 --> 57:23.800
+really really really need to
+
+57:23.800 --> 57:25.800
+hit it out of the park
+
+57:25.800 --> 57:27.800
+or you can be assured that
+
+57:27.800 --> 57:29.800
+the last job you're going to have
+
+57:29.800 --> 57:31.800
+in academic biology is going to be your postdoc
+
+57:31.800 --> 57:33.800
+I mean there are
+
+57:33.800 --> 57:35.800
+no positions for
+
+57:35.800 --> 57:37.800
+for people
+
+57:37.800 --> 57:39.800
+of unrepressed
+
+57:39.800 --> 57:41.800
+backgrounds
+
+57:41.800 --> 57:43.800
+it's just gotten out of control
+
+57:43.800 --> 57:45.800
+the content of your work
+
+57:45.800 --> 57:47.800
+the content of your character
+
+57:47.800 --> 57:49.800
+your work ethic
+
+57:49.800 --> 57:51.800
+it doesn't matter at all
+
+57:51.800 --> 57:53.800
+it's all secondary to your
+
+57:53.800 --> 57:55.800
+perceived station in the hierarchy
+
+57:55.800 --> 57:57.800
+it's pretty scary
+
+57:57.800 --> 57:59.800
+and I had a wife that
+
+57:59.800 --> 58:01.800
+but I doubt he experienced that
+
+58:01.800 --> 58:03.800
+when he was in academia
+
+58:03.800 --> 58:05.800
+thank you very much
+
+58:05.800 --> 58:07.800
+sorry if I was implying
+
+58:07.800 --> 58:09.800
+that any of those current
+
+58:09.800 --> 58:11.800
+issues
+
+58:11.800 --> 58:13.800
+were in existence at the time
+
+58:13.800 --> 58:15.800
+when he was hopping around from
+
+58:15.800 --> 58:17.800
+retroviral lab to retroviral lab
+
+58:17.800 --> 58:19.800
+where people were stealing
+
+58:19.800 --> 58:21.800
+retroviruses from france
+
+58:21.800 --> 58:23.800
+and bringing them back and
+
+58:23.800 --> 58:25.800
+claiming that they had cured them
+
+58:25.800 --> 58:27.800
+they were running around
+
+58:27.800 --> 58:29.800
+this
+
+58:29.800 --> 58:31.800
+writing grants about how
+
+58:31.800 --> 58:33.800
+retroviruses were going to be curing cancer in 10 years
+
+58:33.800 --> 58:35.800
+come on
+
+58:35.800 --> 58:37.800
+a child
+
+58:37.800 --> 58:39.800
+two children at that point in time
+
+58:39.800 --> 58:41.800
+and
+
+58:41.800 --> 58:43.800
+I really I couldn't tolerate
+
+58:43.800 --> 58:45.800
+that
+
+58:45.800 --> 58:47.800
+the environment
+
+58:47.800 --> 58:49.800
+of modern academe for
+
+58:49.800 --> 58:51.800
+a soft money funded
+
+58:51.800 --> 58:53.800
+investigator
+
+58:53.800 --> 58:55.800
+and this is why I
+
+58:55.800 --> 58:57.800
+went to industry
+
+58:57.800 --> 58:59.800
+again and then to government
+
+58:59.800 --> 59:01.800
+contractor
+
+59:01.800 --> 59:03.800
+so let me ask you then
+
+59:03.800 --> 59:05.800
+so from a personal point of view
+
+59:05.800 --> 59:07.800
+you had to almost
+
+59:07.800 --> 59:09.800
+so he was forced to go work for
+
+59:09.800 --> 59:11.800
+government contractors
+
+59:11.800 --> 59:13.800
+he was forced to go work
+
+59:13.800 --> 59:15.800
+for DITRA and DOD
+
+59:15.800 --> 59:17.800
+because academia is just so
+
+59:17.800 --> 59:19.800
+harsh
+
+59:19.800 --> 59:21.800
+I mean he's not going to give
+
+59:21.800 --> 59:23.800
+any credit to anybody that does make
+
+59:23.800 --> 59:25.800
+it in academia you know like
+
+59:25.800 --> 59:27.800
+J about a chariot or something like that
+
+59:27.800 --> 59:29.800
+like those guys aren't great
+
+59:29.800 --> 59:31.800
+or I admire everybody who made
+
+59:31.800 --> 59:33.800
+tenure nothing like that
+
+59:33.800 --> 59:35.800
+he got
+
+59:35.800 --> 59:37.800
+the raw end of the deal he got
+
+59:37.800 --> 59:39.800
+PTSD he was treated terribly
+
+59:39.800 --> 59:41.800
+they stole his ideas he got the
+
+59:41.800 --> 59:43.800
+short end of the stick
+
+59:45.800 --> 59:47.800
+woke away from
+
+59:47.800 --> 59:49.800
+your baby
+
+59:49.800 --> 59:51.800
+I was
+
+59:51.800 --> 59:53.800
+I was
+
+59:53.800 --> 59:55.800
+I was
+
+59:55.800 --> 59:57.800
+one of the lead
+
+59:57.800 --> 59:59.800
+individuals speaking to the press
+
+59:59.800 --> 01:00:01.800
+about what I knew concerning the
+
+01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:03.800
+death of Jesse Gelsinger
+
+01:00:03.800 --> 01:00:05.800
+at the hands of Jim Wilson
+
+01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:07.800
+and you pen
+
+01:00:07.800 --> 01:00:09.800
+from overdosing going off
+
+01:00:09.800 --> 01:00:11.800
+protocol with
+
+01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:15.800
+adenovirus.
+
+01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:33.800
+and
+
+01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:37.800
+I'm afraid that
+
+01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:39.800
+I don't think he would have set a
+
+01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:41.800
+dang word about this
+
+01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:43.800
+had somebody not founded
+
+01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:47.500
+already known about it. And we not already talked about it lots of times. I don't think
+
+01:00:47.500 --> 01:00:55.840
+he would have said a word about this. Because I don't think his, I don't think his I say
+
+01:00:55.840 --> 01:01:03.120
+it again. I do not think that his career was ruined. He claimed in an earlier interview
+
+01:01:03.120 --> 01:01:08.680
+that he made the career of the New York Times reporter that covered this story and quoted
+
+01:01:08.680 --> 01:01:18.840
+him. And again, if he's suffering, if he's losing his career, then what happened to him?
+
+01:01:18.840 --> 01:01:27.120
+Did he go off to the farm? No. He went and got another job at a government funded health
+
+01:01:27.120 --> 01:01:34.920
+university setting up a breast cancer institute and handing it off to a Nigerian couple who's
+
+01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:41.840
+the woman of which was a postdoc of his. It doesn't sound like it really cramped his
+
+01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:46.640
+style at all. He was just moved up the ladder.
+
+01:01:46.640 --> 01:01:59.240
+I knew what basically what happened there was I was taking training in bioethics from
+
+01:01:59.240 --> 01:02:04.880
+a prominent bioethicist. We heard this story before him and his wife were taking a bioethics
+
+01:02:05.040 --> 01:02:14.320
+course and that he really admired this bioethicist. Mr. E. Maryland, as was my wife. And I went to
+
+01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:20.000
+him and said, this has happened and I know these things about this. They're not being discussed.
+
+01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:25.640
+They're not available in the press. And he told me he thought I had a moral obligation to go to
+
+01:02:25.640 --> 01:02:31.520
+the press and share what I knew. And so I did it knowing that it would probably destroy my
+
+01:02:31.520 --> 01:02:39.880
+academic career. And it did. But I was able to recover, survive. I got the appointment at the
+
+01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:47.440
+Uniform Services University Health Sciences and was able to kind of rebuild a whole new career.
+
+01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:59.400
+But yeah, I made a conscious choice there to speak out about things that I thought were unethical.
+
+01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:11.720
+And you could also say that he said just enough to appease and quiet the intense ethical debate
+
+01:03:11.720 --> 01:03:19.160
+around what happened with Jesse. You could say that he kind of, you know, basically again, what are
+
+01:03:19.160 --> 01:03:23.480
+we talking about here? We're talking about a carefully controlled narrative where both sides
+
+01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:32.440
+of the argument are actually on the same team. And I'm positing now, like I think other people
+
+01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:39.880
+have posited earlier, that maybe he's not the, you know, the savior, the guy in the white horse
+
+01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:47.240
+that we think he is, because he keeps kind of being this mediocre guy on a white horse an awful lot.
+
+01:03:48.200 --> 01:03:53.880
+In fact, very curiously around the first time that they ever tried to use transformation to fix a
+
+01:03:53.880 --> 01:04:03.560
+genetic disease. And look who's right there to, to again, just like he's doing right now, be that guy
+
+01:04:03.560 --> 01:04:13.480
+who's got to bring the bad news. Just enough bad news, just enough. So that everybody keeps believing
+
+01:04:13.560 --> 01:04:18.280
+the main story, which is that, you know, in this case, the denovirus is will work. It's just that
+
+01:04:18.280 --> 01:04:23.480
+they tweaked the doses. And they didn't tell everybody that they were tweaking the dosage.
+
+01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:29.880
+And so it seems as though he whistled blue on the fact that they changed the dosage without ever
+
+01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:37.800
+reviewing the protocol again. And he would have never done that. So it's not questioning the
+
+01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:44.920
+mythology. It's not questioning the intention. It's not it's questioning what? It's not questioning
+
+01:04:44.920 --> 01:04:50.520
+the biology. It's not questioning the possibility of augmenting the perfect pattern integrity that
+
+01:04:50.520 --> 01:04:59.320
+is a person. I hope you can see this, ladies and gentlemen, because we've got him now,
+
+01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:06.360
+not like we can do anything about it. But we can see him for who he is. The sunlight is shining.
+
+01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:13.480
+There's no shadows anymore. There's no doubt in my mind that we're being played. It's just a
+
+01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:18.600
+question of who he's playing for. But he's not playing on the side of America. He's not playing
+
+01:05:18.600 --> 01:05:25.080
+on the side of your family or mine. He's getting it while the getting's good, just like a lot of
+
+01:05:25.080 --> 01:05:28.920
+these other people are getting it while the getting's good. And maybe it's because somebody
+
+01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:33.880
+was going to get it no matter what. If Robert Malone didn't take this job, maybe they'd have
+
+01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:37.560
+given it to carrot-funded bullshit. He would have moved over here to America and done it.
+
+01:05:38.920 --> 01:05:41.080
+Maybe they'd have found somebody else. I don't know.
+
+01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:53.160
+What the bottom line is, is that the novel virus faith is intact. If you listen to Robert Malone,
+
+01:05:53.160 --> 01:05:58.520
+argue about who should have gotten the Nobel Prize. The faith of the novel virus is intact.
+
+01:05:59.640 --> 01:06:03.560
+If you listen to people talk about whether the lipid nanoparticle should have been more positive
+
+01:06:03.560 --> 01:06:09.960
+or negative, or we listen to people talking about misfolding proteins leading to amyloidosis
+
+01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:19.880
+or pre-odd disease. Without any mechanistic explanations, without any thorough science,
+
+01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:26.280
+just in vitro garbage to try and tell you more stories about the ghosts out there,
+
+01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:31.640
+more stories about whose masks should be taken off, and more stories about what villains we
+
+01:06:31.640 --> 01:06:39.720
+should be chasing. The only mystery to solve is, is how in the world are all these people
+
+01:06:39.720 --> 01:06:47.640
+connected like this? Why is he streaming with this person? Are you telling me that he can't get on
+
+01:06:47.640 --> 01:06:57.320
+Tucker Carlson? Or are we being governed? And if we're being governed, then it's not time for Robert
+
+01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:01.240
+Malone to be on Tucker Carlson anymore, because there's too many people that are awake.
+
+01:07:03.320 --> 01:07:09.640
+And we don't dare want to wake any of those TV watchers up anymore. We don't dare want to
+
+01:07:09.640 --> 01:07:15.080
+wake any of those TV watchers up anymore. Those people are the last trapped people.
+
+01:07:17.560 --> 01:07:22.840
+And so his job now is to talk to you and me and all the people that are already awake and know
+
+01:07:22.840 --> 01:07:28.760
+something's wrong and are never going to take another shot and make sure that they don't question
+
+01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:32.760
+the novel virus narrative. They don't question the gain of function narrative. They don't question
+
+01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:38.440
+anything going forward because their next one, they're going to bring out another one of these
+
+01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:46.040
+shots and say it's better. And so you got to accept a novel virus and you got to accept
+
+01:07:46.040 --> 01:07:50.360
+the contamination and you got to accept the quality control narrative so that the next one
+
+01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:58.600
+can be better. Maybe they'll use electricity and DNA and again, and Novio will get a contract
+
+01:07:58.600 --> 01:08:03.480
+and then you'll be taking the vaccine from trusted Robert Malone, the most interesting man in the
+
+01:08:03.480 --> 01:08:13.080
+world, to save you from Marburg virus. We're being played, ladies and gentlemen, by somebody who calls
+
+01:08:13.080 --> 01:08:19.320
+himself a molecular biologist, virologist, pathologist, immunologist, bioethicist,
+
+01:08:21.160 --> 01:08:25.960
+and horse trader had to live with the consequences. But what I learned from that was that
+
+01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:37.320
+if you maintain good friendships and good relations with colleagues, you can survive a blow like that.
+
+01:08:37.320 --> 01:08:44.600
+They'll help you. I use the metaphor of a rock and roller throwing himself onto a mosh pit.
+
+01:08:45.400 --> 01:08:51.800
+You know the image that I'm talking about and finding that people would catch me and hold me
+
+01:08:52.760 --> 01:09:01.480
+and allow me to carry on. And with that comes a huge sense of security that you can act
+
+01:09:02.360 --> 01:09:09.560
+in accordance with your morals even though it will often have major consequences
+
+01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:17.720
+and still survive. But the thing about it is that you come through that and you still own your soul.
+
+01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:26.200
+I think we're worth it. So here's an important piece of the puzzle that I'm trying to unveil,
+
+01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:33.480
+and it's to do the fact that you would not have been able to get through that period
+
+01:09:33.480 --> 01:09:43.560
+without the support of Jill. And secondly, I know that Jill was a primary factor in you speaking
+
+01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:49.560
+out about your work with mRNA because you could have kept silent. You could have just let it ride.
+
+01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:58.040
+Why did Jill insist that? Listen, you need to share this. You need to talk about this. Why was
+
+01:09:58.040 --> 01:10:03.720
+because there was a no bell rise at so remember that when I left the salt, I left with a diagnosis
+
+01:10:03.720 --> 01:10:08.600
+of PTSD because they were saying that people were being saved by the millions and they weren't
+
+01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:15.480
+given any credit to my husband. That's why Jill urged him to speak up. It certainly wasn't to save
+
+01:10:15.480 --> 01:10:22.120
+people. It certainly wasn't to tell everybody not to take it. They were advocating for every
+
+01:10:22.120 --> 01:10:28.680
+old person to get this shot. Apparently, he took it himself after he had COVID as if that makes any
+
+01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:34.920
+sense to an immunologist, a molecular biologist, virologist, not a very smart one of those.
+
+01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:43.880
+And that's not a trivial thing. I don't just say that. I was a hot mess. And that's something that
+
+01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:53.160
+doesn't go away throughout much of my professional life to find myself in highly competitive environments
+
+01:10:53.960 --> 01:11:04.040
+where the same kinds of behaviors are common. And I had also since those early discoveries
+
+01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:16.120
+really had a heck of a lot of gaslighting and ridicule from people who benefited by positioning
+
+01:11:16.120 --> 01:11:23.640
+themselves as more important than they were in the story and building companies off of that,
+
+01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:34.200
+and so I had learned a survival strategy of basically staying quiet and laying low
+
+01:11:35.480 --> 01:11:46.280
+being not readily visible. I certainly would speak at conferences but didn't make much of.
+
+01:11:47.080 --> 01:11:53.240
+I basically set aside that early trauma and the events associated with it and just went on with
+
+01:11:53.240 --> 01:12:04.280
+my life and built other skill sets and other research focus. And so when this started to heat
+
+01:12:04.280 --> 01:12:13.320
+up and frankly, particularly, I was triggered by a comedian in Canada who posts videos under the
+
+01:12:14.040 --> 01:12:21.080
+pseudonym What's Her Face that did a video that really went through and dissected what happened
+
+01:12:21.160 --> 01:12:28.120
+to my Wikipedia page after I was on the Dark Horse podcast and all the wicked editing that
+
+01:12:28.120 --> 01:12:36.760
+happened with that to write me out of history. And at the time, there was a clear marketing
+
+01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:45.240
+campaign to get Currico and Weisman the Nobel. This is two and a half years ago now. And my wife
+
+01:12:46.200 --> 01:12:52.200
+who has lived through all of this experience at first hand, Dr. Jill Glasspool Malone.
+
+01:12:53.560 --> 01:12:59.880
+Dr. Jill Glasspool Malone, it's a little shitty because certain doctorate is not in
+
+01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:08.600
+something like biology or molecular biology or virology or pathology or anything related to
+
+01:13:08.600 --> 01:13:18.280
+medicine except it's psychology. So, you know, doctor, it's just lame. I don't ever call myself
+
+01:13:18.280 --> 01:13:23.000
+Dr. Jonathan Cooley because I think it's kind of lame. If you're not a medical doctor, you should
+
+01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:32.680
+say Mr. Mrs. And you can say PhD if you want, you know, but I just don't see the point of saying
+
+01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:40.200
+Dr. Jill Malone, unless you're really, you know, you mean something with it. Like, and here,
+
+01:13:40.200 --> 01:13:47.960
+you can only mean to mislead people. And it's annoying. I find it really annoying. Just when
+
+01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:56.120
+you say Dr. Paul control, you know, you say Dr. Kevin McCann. Everybody introduces me as JJ.
+
+01:13:56.120 --> 01:14:00.200
+And then everybody says, yeah, but that's all diminutive and everything. What it is is humble.
+
+01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:08.920
+Because I understand that I'm just a reader. I understand that I have a lot of bench experience
+
+01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:14.440
+with a very limited aspect of molecular biology, a very limited aspect of neurobiology, a very
+
+01:14:14.440 --> 01:14:21.800
+limited aspect of animal behavior, a very limited aspect of small animal surgery, a very limited
+
+01:14:21.800 --> 01:14:32.040
+aspect of of animal breeding, and an absolute mountain of expertise on electrophysiology and
+
+01:14:32.040 --> 01:14:42.760
+brain slices. And with that, extremely weird, but varied background in biology that includes
+
+01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:49.000
+an enthusiasm of birds since I was a kid, collecting reptiles since I was a kid, a love of all kinds
+
+01:14:49.080 --> 01:14:57.640
+of animals since I was a child. I come at this with a firm and beautiful respect for nature
+
+01:14:58.200 --> 01:15:06.840
+and how complex it is. And a real firm understanding that the real appreciation that you need to have
+
+01:15:06.840 --> 01:15:11.480
+as a biologist is that there's so much that we're never going to be able to figure out because it is
+
+01:15:11.480 --> 01:15:16.040
+this complex interaction of complex interactions with complex interactions
+
+01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:18.840
+with pattern integrities.
+
+01:15:27.000 --> 01:15:33.080
+I just don't feel the sacred here. We're being sold down the river by people who've already
+
+01:15:33.080 --> 01:15:37.720
+given up on the sacred who already believe all of the keys are in our hands. They believe that
+
+01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:43.480
+it's just a matter of time before all these mysteries are going to be solved and all these
+
+01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:49.080
+nuts are going to be cracked. Robert Malone is exactly one of these people
+
+01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:54.920
+who probably thinks there's too many people on the planet and certainly too many mouth breathers
+
+01:15:57.160 --> 01:16:01.480
+and that we need to use the medical data that we can to make this go forward because otherwise
+
+01:16:01.480 --> 01:16:10.040
+it will never go forward. And I think he's positioning himself for whatever changes are to come,
+
+01:16:10.040 --> 01:16:14.280
+just like a lot of these people are, just like I am and just like you should be.
+
+01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:22.840
+Said no, Robert, this time I insist you have to stand up and fight what's being done to you.
+
+01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:30.760
+And I really, you know, I'd partitioned all of that in my mind and set it aside and
+
+01:16:32.520 --> 01:16:38.280
+really didn't look at it, didn't try not to think about it as a defense mechanism.
+
+01:16:39.080 --> 01:16:45.240
+And she hauled out, we had carried the old data to the extent that we were able to extract it from
+
+01:16:45.240 --> 01:16:51.080
+by Cal and the salt. We carried it with us in a great big box through all the moves and academic
+
+01:16:51.080 --> 01:16:58.440
+appointments and everything. And she hauled it out and went through it and pulled out key documents
+
+01:16:58.440 --> 01:17:05.160
+and assembled them and wrote an essay in which she described from her point of view what had
+
+01:17:05.240 --> 01:17:12.440
+transpired. You see, and that essay is something that Mark has captured images of and she had
+
+01:17:12.440 --> 01:17:17.640
+posted this essay on Facebook. So even though that essay doesn't really exist anymore on the
+
+01:17:17.640 --> 01:17:23.080
+internet, it's still there in some places. I think you can still have a, there's still a link and
+
+01:17:23.080 --> 01:17:31.000
+included the receipts, the documents and the patent disclosures, etc. And, and sent that off
+
+01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:45.000
+to UC San Diego, faculty and leadership, Salk Institute, people at Moderna, an old colleague
+
+01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:51.160
+that had invited us to the Carolinska years and years ago, that was-
+
+01:17:51.160 --> 01:17:55.640
+So she sent a letter to Moderna, the Salk Institute, the University of San
+
+01:17:56.600 --> 01:18:03.640
+San Diego, or wherever that was. She sent that letter to all those places. That's pretty bold.
+
+01:18:07.080 --> 01:18:13.080
+A letter about PTSD, a letter about his, his, his ideas getting stolen from him,
+
+01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:18.760
+idea about how millions of people's lives are being saved by his technology and nobody's giving
+
+01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:23.800
+him any credit for it. She sent that letter to Moderna and the Salk Institute.
+
+01:18:27.960 --> 01:18:35.480
+Volved in RNA delivery and became a collaborator and was often asked to the Carolinska years and
+
+01:18:35.480 --> 01:18:47.160
+years ago, that was involved in Canada, Salk Institute, people at Moderna, an old colleague
+
+01:18:47.160 --> 01:18:54.920
+that had invited us to the Carolinska years and years ago, that was involved in RNA delivery
+
+01:18:54.920 --> 01:19:01.160
+and became a collaborator and was on the Nobel selection committee a couple years ago.
+
+01:19:02.280 --> 01:19:11.320
+And, and basically said, no, this is what's happened. And, so that's, that kind of set that
+
+01:19:11.400 --> 01:19:19.880
+all in motion, the process of objecting to being written out of history and having my
+
+01:19:19.880 --> 01:19:25.800
+own contributions overlooked. And, of course, there was massive backlash from corporate media,
+
+01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:33.080
+notably a very ugly piece, poorly written in the Atlantic Monthly. It has a graphic with two
+
+01:19:33.080 --> 01:19:40.200
+syringes crossing over my face like skull and crossbones with my image in red. It's very striking.
+
+01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:45.160
+Somebody wrote the other day that it was basically an invitation for assassination as far as they
+
+01:19:45.160 --> 01:19:58.200
+were concerned. But I took a lot of arrows over that. And, you know, the Atlantic Monthly,
+
+01:19:58.200 --> 01:20:04.360
+the Washington Post, the New York Times, Business Insider, Forbes Magazine, all of these entities,
+
+01:20:05.160 --> 01:20:12.520
+as well as my haters in academia, particularly at the Scripps Institute of Research.
+
+01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:21.800
+There's one that I don't want to amplify. They all focused just on the published manuscripts.
+
+01:20:21.800 --> 01:20:28.440
+None of them will acknowledge the patents. So, because I was at, at a company, all of that stuff
+
+01:20:28.440 --> 01:20:35.480
+had to go into patents, not into papers. And so, it's weaponized that, well, I didn't really do
+
+01:20:35.480 --> 01:20:42.200
+what I did because I don't have the peer-reviewed publications. Seriously, I had a whole girl,
+
+01:20:42.200 --> 01:20:47.880
+poor Robert, written out of history. Only have a few. They happen to be among the most highly
+
+01:20:47.880 --> 01:20:56.200
+cited in this area. But that's all whitewashed over as if that... I want to understand, Robert.
+
+01:20:56.200 --> 01:21:00.360
+Now, this is an interesting question. As you were talking, I thought about it.
+
+01:21:00.360 --> 01:21:06.600
+Just imagine that you had stayed silent as you had typically done. You said nothing.
+
+01:21:07.400 --> 01:21:15.880
+And what happened still happened? How would you have felt? Would you have felt the same? Better?
+
+01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:23.640
+Worse? What do you think? I think it's good in... It's been particularly therapeutic starting with
+
+01:21:23.640 --> 01:21:28.840
+your broadcast, but so many others where I've been asked to tell the story of what transpired
+
+01:21:28.840 --> 01:21:36.280
+at the soul and at Vycal. And there's a school of thought that when you have a traumatic event,
+
+01:21:36.280 --> 01:21:42.280
+you need to talk about it many times before you can heal from that event.
+
+01:21:43.080 --> 01:21:49.960
+And I'm a much better person, even though it's been rough. I'm certainly healthier
+
+01:21:49.960 --> 01:21:57.960
+psychologically because I have gone through this process of sharing and expressing
+
+01:21:58.840 --> 01:22:04.440
+what I've experienced. And I've had feedback from so many people, particularly graduate students
+
+01:22:04.440 --> 01:22:11.560
+that have in postdocs that have had to live in this really rather twisted modern academic environment
+
+01:22:12.120 --> 01:22:18.120
+express to me, you know, I so much appreciate what you said. I had similar experiences.
+
+01:22:19.080 --> 01:22:24.360
+These are what happened to me. And I think the whole thing, not to sound too touchy-feely,
+
+01:22:25.160 --> 01:22:32.440
+has been very therapeutic. I know when he tells the story of his PTSD that he experienced with his
+
+01:22:32.440 --> 01:22:38.040
+patent dispute with Vycal and the Salk Institute, I think to myself, man, I just want to call
+
+01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:44.280
+and tell Robert Malone how happy I am that somebody's finally speaking out about the way
+
+01:22:44.280 --> 01:22:54.120
+that us postdocs suffer. Just for me, but for a whole cohort of people that have also experienced
+
+01:22:55.320 --> 01:23:02.760
+these types of rather average behavior from high profile academics. I'm going to share
+
+01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:09.480
+something here now. So this is the Nobel Prize. This is the second of October. So this is the
+
+01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:15.720
+PDF from the Nobel Institute. And they have here, Catalina, Kariko, and Drew Weisman.
+
+01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:25.240
+I want you because you knew this was coming. And I want to understand because I'm thinking
+
+01:23:25.240 --> 01:23:30.920
+about it from a scientific point of view. When you've done work and you've created ideas
+
+01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:39.080
+and then not be credited for it, it does hurt. Did this hurt? Even though you knew it was coming.
+
+01:23:39.080 --> 01:23:48.040
+Did it hurt? To reel back, when Steve Kirsch and I went on the Brett Weinstein Dark Horse podcast,
+
+01:23:49.080 --> 01:23:54.360
+three of us sat around for about 20 minutes before we started the broadcast and discussed
+
+01:23:55.080 --> 01:24:02.280
+the potential consequences of what we were about to do. Oh my gosh, the consequences could be
+
+01:24:02.280 --> 01:24:12.200
+drastic. Brett, you could lose the Google payouts that you get from YouTube and the ads that run
+
+01:24:12.200 --> 01:24:20.520
+on your extraordinary podcast. Robert Malone could lose all of his illustrious career as a
+
+01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:28.760
+vaccine broker and horse salesman. And Steve Kirsch, he's got his own company. So he'll be fine. Oh no,
+
+01:24:28.760 --> 01:24:32.040
+wait a minute. He was asked to step down from his company.
+
+01:24:35.400 --> 01:24:44.360
+So they took the risk anyway, and they titled the podcast three easy steps to end the pandemic.
+
+01:24:45.480 --> 01:24:50.200
+And then in the first 10 minutes of the podcast, Brett proceeded to tell everybody how they were
+
+01:24:50.280 --> 01:24:59.400
+an example of how strangers could hang out without masks, because infection and injection on the
+
+01:24:59.400 --> 01:25:05.880
+right, double injection on the left, and master of prophylactic ivermectin in the middle.
+
+01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:16.040
+We haven't forgotten he would like us to have forgotten that he never came out against anything.
+
+01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:28.200
+And you could call it speaking against the narrative of safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines.
+
+01:25:29.320 --> 01:25:36.200
+And we thought at the time, Steve was the one that was most bomb proof because he had his own company.
+
+01:25:37.080 --> 01:25:41.960
+It caused him to lose his company. His board of directors basically asked for his resignation.
+
+01:25:41.960 --> 01:25:52.920
+And Brett, certainly he got demonetized. That was a huge impact for him. My understanding is he was
+
+01:25:52.920 --> 01:25:58.840
+quite depressed for a while. And as you would well imagine, if that's your main source of income,
+
+01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:06.440
+getting demonetized from YouTube. And for me, the discussion was that the Nobel was in play
+
+01:26:07.160 --> 01:26:16.600
+at that time, and that this would jinx my ability to prevail in that or be included in it. And so
+
+01:26:16.600 --> 01:26:25.640
+it was a conscious decision that that was a risk, consciously taken, but that it was the right thing
+
+01:26:25.640 --> 01:26:34.120
+to speak at that time. And so when this dropped, I was in one sense surprised, in another sense,
+
+01:26:34.120 --> 01:26:39.800
+not surprised. I was surprised in that my colleague from the Carolinska that I mentioned, who's a
+
+01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:46.840
+full professor and works on RNA delivery and self-replicating RNAs, had assured me that the
+
+01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:54.040
+committee two years ago had reviewed the contributions of Currico and Weismann and had determined that
+
+01:26:54.040 --> 01:27:03.080
+they were not sufficiently meritorious to warrant the price. And the committee at the time apparently
+
+01:27:03.160 --> 01:27:11.480
+was surprised because they had not been aware that I had done that original work. And as apparently
+
+01:27:11.480 --> 01:27:16.360
+Moderna and Pfizer were not aware because they didn't cite the patents, and that's another story
+
+01:27:16.360 --> 01:27:21.640
+right now. They're busy in a patent battle. And now Pfizer paradoxically is citing those old patents
+
+01:27:21.640 --> 01:27:31.720
+in their attacks against Mert, I mean, against Moderna. So I had been told that the committee had
+
+01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:38.120
+reviewed this and found that it was not sufficiently meritorious. And my expectation was that the
+
+01:27:38.120 --> 01:27:44.520
+committee was just going to stay away from this topic, you know, certainly for many years until it
+
+01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:54.040
+had declared itself, let's say, in terms of what were the real issues with this product,
+
+01:27:54.040 --> 01:28:01.400
+these mRNA vaccines for COVID and the technology platform, et cetera. But clearly,
+
+01:28:01.400 --> 01:28:08.520
+they decided not to. They decided to take it up and they voted to grant this in a very odd way.
+
+01:28:10.360 --> 01:28:16.040
+It is, it is, and you've got it highlighted there. Basically, they did a carve out
+
+01:28:16.280 --> 01:28:27.480
+just for this to make this award. And the wording is crucial there, as is the press release that
+
+01:28:27.480 --> 01:28:38.920
+corresponds to this. The, it's the carve out is restricted to just mRNA vaccines against COVID-19.
+
+01:28:38.920 --> 01:28:48.040
+So this is a Nobel award for enabling the rapid development of mRNA vaccines against COVID-19,
+
+01:28:48.040 --> 01:28:54.120
+not for the development of the core technology platform or anything else. So as Jill and I were
+
+01:28:54.120 --> 01:29:00.680
+pondering this and, you know, mRNA just read it there through their groundbreaking findings,
+
+01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:08.760
+which have fundamentally changed our understanding of how mRNA interacts with our immune system.
+
+01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:17.960
+That's the key. So by chemically altering the mRNA, we have learned a little bit more about how
+
+01:29:17.960 --> 01:29:23.160
+mRNA interacts with our immune system or interacts with the intracellular machinery,
+
+01:29:24.040 --> 01:29:30.280
+which processes mRNA and foreign mRNA in particular. We've learned a little bit more
+
+01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:41.000
+enough to use it as an excuse that contributed to the unprecedented rate of vaccine development.
+
+01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:48.200
+So during one of the greatest threats to human health in modern times. So
+
+01:29:51.080 --> 01:29:56.200
+what's important to see here in my, from my perspective, is that Robert is now still having
+
+01:29:56.280 --> 01:30:00.840
+a debate about what role he played in the development of the mRNA technology
+
+01:30:02.360 --> 01:30:08.760
+and what things are going to contribute ultimately to the enablement of these development,
+
+01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:15.240
+the development of the COVID-19 vaccine. So what part of this is he not going to challenge?
+
+01:30:16.120 --> 01:30:23.320
+He's not going to challenge that this was one of the greatest threats to human health in modern
+
+01:30:23.320 --> 01:30:34.120
+times. If he was trying to free us like like Jessica Hockett and Nick Hudson and Thomas Binder
+
+01:30:34.120 --> 01:30:44.760
+and Peter McCullough and Bobby and a lot of other people, I think, are trying to free us.
+
+01:30:45.240 --> 01:30:55.160
+Excuse me. We've really got to get it into our heads that one of the things that we needed to
+
+01:30:55.160 --> 01:31:01.080
+spell is this mythology that it was one of the greatest threats to human health in modern times.
+
+01:31:02.680 --> 01:31:06.520
+Bobby's not there yet. Peter McCullough is not there yet, but we're trying.
+
+01:31:08.360 --> 01:31:13.080
+And you saw that Peter McCullough had the first time at a sparkle in his eye about this idea
+
+01:31:13.160 --> 01:31:19.240
+when he was talking to Daddy Rancour. So we're going to get there, but we've got to keep pushing
+
+01:31:19.240 --> 01:31:25.160
+and we can't let people put it on the screen and then not talk about it. Distract us with
+
+01:31:25.720 --> 01:31:32.280
+you know, the precise wording of enabled the development of or no, we are now
+
+01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:39.080
+putting into the Nobel Prize record that they saved us from one of the greatest threats in
+
+01:31:39.160 --> 01:31:44.280
+modern history. So the lie is not the biology of the mRNA vaccine. The lie is that.
+
+01:31:47.480 --> 01:31:52.040
+That's the lie. That's what makes it okay for it to have been rushed. That's what makes it okay
+
+01:31:52.040 --> 01:32:00.840
+for it to have contaminants and still get the award because otherwise it wouldn't get a reward,
+
+01:32:00.840 --> 01:32:05.000
+right? It wouldn't get an award if it hadn't saved anybody's lives. Then it would have been
+
+01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:11.800
+a rushed product that hurt a lot of people. I hope you can see how important it is
+
+01:32:12.600 --> 01:32:19.640
+that that's in there, that they're saying it, that it is the justification for awarding them
+
+01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:27.720
+the prize and talking about the biology of that is accepting the fact that the greatest threat
+
+01:32:27.720 --> 01:32:30.680
+to human health in modern times just passed us by.
+
+01:32:31.160 --> 01:32:37.800
+Or anything else. So as Jill and I were pondering this and you know, how do we process this and deal
+
+01:32:37.800 --> 01:32:44.040
+with it? Her point immediately was, well, actually this is kind of indicating because the committee
+
+01:32:44.040 --> 01:32:53.880
+has not, has explicitly not made the award for the invention of the technology, which was what was
+
+01:32:54.200 --> 01:33:02.600
+being advanced in the press in stat news in Boston and others, CNN originally, before I started
+
+01:33:02.600 --> 01:33:08.840
+objecting, was that Kariko and Weissman were the ones that had created this technology. When in
+
+01:33:08.840 --> 01:33:15.640
+fact, they came, they didn't even start doing any of this stuff until 15 years after what I did.
+
+01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:27.560
+So, so in a way, it was okay. Now, the assertions that are made by the committee
+
+01:33:29.560 --> 01:33:37.160
+are largely false and fairly transparently false. The assertion that Kariko and Weissman
+
+01:33:37.720 --> 01:33:44.920
+produced these four papers that involved the use of a a pseudo-uridine modified base
+
+01:33:45.480 --> 01:33:54.680
+incorporated into synthetic RNA, reducing inflammatory responses relative to non-modified RNA.
+
+01:33:55.880 --> 01:34:02.520
+They hold the patent on that from you, Penn. And that patent is fascinating because it says nothing
+
+01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:09.960
+about vaccines. And Kariko and Weissman originally did not intend to work on vaccines, but rather
+
+01:34:09.960 --> 01:34:19.880
+were focused on cancer when they did these discoveries. So, there it's absolutely true
+
+01:34:19.880 --> 01:34:27.160
+as the committee asserts that Kariko and Weissman made these discoveries and they made them after I
+
+01:34:27.240 --> 01:34:36.040
+had left. And I've congratulated them on that achievement of the Nobel Prize for their discovery.
+
+01:34:36.760 --> 01:34:45.320
+The next statement that's made there in that clause that justifies the product and in the
+
+01:34:45.320 --> 01:34:54.200
+press releases, they talk about effective vaccines. That's highly debatable. And they also assert
+
+01:34:54.200 --> 01:35:01.240
+in the press release, the vaccines have saved millions of lives and greatly reduced disease.
+
+01:35:02.040 --> 01:35:10.200
+That's also really in flux right now, that that thesis. But you notice they speak of effective,
+
+01:35:10.200 --> 01:35:15.560
+they don't say safe and effective, which has become the mantra. So, they dropped a safe part.
+
+01:35:17.240 --> 01:35:23.000
+And then in their press release, they talked about that what was really important here was that
+
+01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:29.320
+the pseudo-uridine invention was what was enabling for the rapid development of these products. And
+
+01:35:29.320 --> 01:35:37.880
+that's also a false statement. The discovery phase and development of the, let's say, composition
+
+01:35:37.880 --> 01:35:45.880
+of matter, that's technical patent talk for a vaccine is usually, and in this case also, a very
+
+01:35:45.880 --> 01:35:55.160
+small fraction of the overall, the discovery phase and development of the, let's say, composition
+
+01:35:55.160 --> 01:36:01.800
+of matter, that's technical patent talk for a vaccine is usually in, in this technical
+
+01:36:01.800 --> 01:36:09.000
+in development of the, let's say, composition of matter, that's technical patent talk for a vaccine
+
+01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:15.640
+is usually in, and in this case also, a very small fraction of the overall time necessary for
+
+01:36:15.640 --> 01:36:20.840
+development. The reason why these vaccines were developed so quickly had nothing to do with mRNA,
+
+01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:30.200
+but largely had to do with dropping the normal processes for assessing pharmacology, toxicology,
+
+01:36:30.200 --> 01:36:35.560
+biodeistribution. No, there is not wrong. It's really interesting to say that their,
+
+01:36:36.520 --> 01:36:43.800
+that their new idea of chemically altering uracils was an enabling technology that allowed
+
+01:36:43.800 --> 01:36:48.440
+these vaccines to develop so quickly. But in reality, the only thing that needed to be done was
+
+01:36:48.440 --> 01:36:54.440
+we needed to shorten and get rid of all this regulatory procedure and declare an emergency under the
+
+01:36:54.440 --> 01:37:02.280
+prep act, which is really what he should say here, right? Which is really what he should say here.
+
+01:37:02.280 --> 01:37:08.360
+He should say it explicitly declaring an emergency under the prep act is what allowed this to happen.
+
+01:37:08.440 --> 01:37:14.040
+He should say that explicitly. If he was trying to save us, will he say it?
+
+01:37:16.600 --> 01:37:23.880
+Pharmacokinetics in phase one, two, three clinical trials, pharmacosis for assessing
+
+01:37:23.880 --> 01:37:31.880
+pharmacology, toxicology, biodeistribution, pharmacokinetics, in phase one, two, three clinical trials.
+
+01:37:32.520 --> 01:37:37.800
+That was a pretty stupid, complicated way of saying that they declared an emergency under the prep act
+
+01:37:37.800 --> 01:37:42.840
+and then that meant they didn't have to do anything. You could keep it real simple, but instead,
+
+01:37:42.840 --> 01:37:50.200
+it's often stupid, complicated. And you don't say what needs to be said. That's how the narrative
+
+01:37:50.200 --> 01:37:54.120
+is being controlled. Ladies and gentlemen, that's why we have to listen to Robert Malone, because
+
+01:37:54.120 --> 01:38:01.160
+then we can hear the barriers. We can hear the boundaries. We can hear the boundaries of the
+
+01:38:01.160 --> 01:38:05.720
+debate on this side when we listen to Robert Malone. We can hear the boundaries of the debate on the
+
+01:38:05.800 --> 01:38:12.840
+other side when we watch PBS NewsHour. And once we can see where the boundaries of the debate are,
+
+01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:20.920
+we can start pushing there. Because otherwise, we're pushing on their practice dummies.
+
+01:38:23.560 --> 01:38:31.160
+And we're running in their little wheels. So we got to listen carefully. We got to find out
+
+01:38:31.160 --> 01:38:37.240
+where the edge of this narrative is and that we need to push hard on it. And so some of the
+
+01:38:37.240 --> 01:38:44.520
+places he's pushing are real. It didn't save millions of lives. It didn't enable the technology.
+
+01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:51.800
+The prep act enabled it. But then as he says it correctly, he stops short of giving you the truth.
+
+01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:56.680
+And that's exactly the magic. That's exactly the enchantment.
+
+01:38:57.560 --> 01:39:03.400
+He should have done said the prep act and emergency here. And he should have done
+
+01:39:03.400 --> 01:39:08.120
+said that we need to stop the government from being able to declare an emergency again. And then
+
+01:39:08.120 --> 01:39:17.480
+all this goes away. But he's not saying it. Including dose escalation. And not to mention the
+
+01:39:17.480 --> 01:39:25.320
+nonclinical and clinical toxicology. So it was it was the dropping of the regulatory norms that
+
+01:39:25.320 --> 01:39:29.480
+resulted in this being done so quickly. It wasn't really anything to do with pseudoridine.
+
+01:39:30.200 --> 01:39:35.560
+Well, it raises a good point because I was asking about this as I was doing my research.
+
+01:39:36.520 --> 01:39:43.320
+I realized that actually they even modified the pseudoridine even further by creating an N1
+
+01:39:43.320 --> 01:39:50.120
+methyl serodeuridine, which is what they've used in the vaccines, which is quite remarkable. I guess
+
+01:39:50.120 --> 01:39:57.560
+what they're saying is just the concept of create using this pseudoridine is the innovation. It
+
+01:39:57.560 --> 01:40:04.760
+doesn't matter how you then subsequently adjust it. Yeah, that that could be the logic. It's it's
+
+01:40:04.760 --> 01:40:10.120
+I'm not aware. And remember what I said, the salt, I think there was six or eight Nobel laureates
+
+01:40:10.120 --> 01:40:18.920
+there, including Francis Crick. I'm not aware in the history of the Nobel Prize for medicine
+
+01:40:18.920 --> 01:40:24.440
+or physiology, that those that originated the technology were not included in the final
+
+01:40:24.440 --> 01:40:36.040
+award. That's very unusual. And the the point that all of these, let's say irregularities or
+
+01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:46.920
+untruths that are used to justify this award, really, in my mind, speak of a
+
+01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:55.560
+the logic underneath this, not really being grounded in rigorous science and medicine.
+
+01:40:56.200 --> 01:41:01.240
+I think it has more to do with politics. That's a controversial statement on it. Really don't
+
+01:41:01.240 --> 01:41:10.600
+want to come across as sour grapes or or denying in any way, or casting shade or disparaging the
+
+01:41:11.080 --> 01:41:17.960
+achievement of this, or or to second guess the Nobel Committee, it made their decision.
+
+01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:26.360
+But I do note that Pfizer is a major donor to the Carolinska Institute. So whatever happened
+
+01:41:26.360 --> 01:41:37.320
+here, it happened. I was surprised you asked about my emotions. I was surprised. What what
+
+01:41:37.400 --> 01:41:45.800
+was more hurtful for me than the actual award was the rekindling of the box trolls and social
+
+01:41:45.800 --> 01:41:54.200
+media scientists attacks on me, asserting that this demonstrated that I didn't actually do what I did.
+
+01:41:55.240 --> 01:42:02.200
+That's that's just hurtful. And it's not it's not based in in fact,
+
+01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:11.000
+and it's, you know, it's, it's, you know, what's hurtful is when doctors are told they have to
+
+01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:16.120
+follow a protocol and then those doctors follow the protocol and then lie to the patients about
+
+01:42:17.160 --> 01:42:22.040
+following the protocol and the fact that it's going to help them. You know what sucks is when
+
+01:42:22.040 --> 01:42:27.800
+people are lied to about why they have to stay away from their grandmother while she's dying.
+
+01:42:27.800 --> 01:42:33.720
+You know, it sucks is when people are lied to about why they're being treated the way they're
+
+01:42:33.720 --> 01:42:41.160
+treated or how they're being treated or what they're being given. I don't know if he suffered
+
+01:42:41.160 --> 01:42:47.720
+that much during the pandemic. I don't know if he's really in a position to whine about just him all
+
+01:42:47.720 --> 01:42:54.840
+the time. When lots of other people lost their businesses, lost their jobs, lost their livelihoods,
+
+01:42:54.840 --> 01:43:03.720
+lost family members, lost children, lost parents, lost use of their hands.
+
+01:43:09.240 --> 01:43:14.120
+I just think it's a little disingenuous for him to be singing for an hour and 15 minutes about
+
+01:43:14.120 --> 01:43:24.360
+how much pain he suffered as the hurtful internet. The hurtful, unwritten history that is his
+
+01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:33.720
+when he just wants to be a humble horse farmer, famous for saving the world, I guess.
+
+01:43:35.800 --> 01:43:44.360
+Tearing off the the scab over the psychological pain, frankly, I don't want to sound like a
+
+01:43:44.360 --> 01:43:56.680
+whiner. Do psychological scars have scabs? Of what was deployed against me by corporate media
+
+01:43:57.880 --> 01:44:08.840
+two years ago, two and a half years ago, but that's the modern ecosystem in social media is this kind
+
+01:44:08.920 --> 01:44:16.360
+of really rather wicked behavior. The way that they brought out the truth was somewhat very similar
+
+01:44:16.360 --> 01:44:23.160
+to how they brought it out all the other times in the Scooby-Doo. Robert Malone got to be on Tucker
+
+01:44:23.160 --> 01:44:31.080
+Carlson. Robert Malone was on Rogan. Robert Malone was on every podcast.
+
+01:44:31.320 --> 01:44:45.160
+And while he was out there, he was telling the story of viruses, telling the story of his technology
+
+01:44:45.160 --> 01:44:52.280
+being stolen from him. Telling a broken story about it might be working, it might not be working,
+
+01:44:52.280 --> 01:44:58.840
+it should be working. We don't know if it's working. Controlling the narrative, being the star of the
+
+01:44:58.840 --> 01:45:08.120
+show, touring the world, touring the world. He's just a humble horse farmer. But in order to save
+
+01:45:08.120 --> 01:45:13.080
+the world, he's definitely willing to do a week long cruise off of the coast of Turkey with a bunch
+
+01:45:13.080 --> 01:45:24.040
+of dissidents. He's definitely willing to go to the EU three times a year. Sometimes he's doing nine
+
+01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:35.400
+hits a day, nine podcasts a day. Sometimes he puts out 21 single space pages of text every day.
+
+01:45:37.720 --> 01:45:45.640
+And he's got horses and emus. Ladies and gentlemen, something is incongruent here.
+
+01:45:46.440 --> 01:45:53.240
+Something is very, very incongruent here. And if we follow this to the end, I think we're
+
+01:45:53.320 --> 01:45:57.160
+going to figure out what's going on. I think you're going to see the Scooby Doo for what it is. I
+
+01:45:57.160 --> 01:46:05.240
+think we can expose these people because they're all connected. There's no possible way that George
+
+01:46:05.240 --> 01:46:15.960
+Webb, Paul Catrell, Robert Malone, Charles Ricksey, Kevin McCann, Dr. Philip McMillan,
+
+01:46:16.760 --> 01:46:24.200
+a carrot fund in Bosch, and Dr. Paul Catrell, if I didn't say that already, are not all connected.
+
+01:46:24.200 --> 01:46:30.600
+There's just no way. They're definitely all connected. They seem to be all part of the same
+
+01:46:30.600 --> 01:46:38.200
+sideshow, pushing the worst case scenario, pushing rumors of the worst case scenario of the shot,
+
+01:46:39.320 --> 01:46:44.200
+the worst case scenario of all the different ways the transfection went wrong.
+
+01:46:45.160 --> 01:46:54.040
+Instead of all the ways the transfection is wrong. See the difference? All these people are pushing
+
+01:46:54.040 --> 01:47:00.360
+the ways the transfection went wrong instead of the ways the transfection is wrong. And they're
+
+01:47:00.360 --> 01:47:06.760
+all related. They've all been on each other's shows. Robert Malone has been on this guy's show
+
+01:47:06.760 --> 01:47:11.400
+in the same month that he was on Bret Weinstein a month before he went on Joe Rogan and broke the internet.
+
+01:47:14.520 --> 01:47:21.000
+And Robert Malone is streamed with Kevin or with Paul Catrell while at the same time talking
+
+01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:25.480
+out of the other side of his mouth about how one of his arch nemesis is on the internet is
+
+01:47:25.480 --> 01:47:31.880
+none other than George Webb, who says the biggest hero in the medical community speaking out since
+
+01:47:31.880 --> 01:47:38.520
+2020 is Paul Catrell, fake doctor, bus rider MD,
+
+01:47:43.720 --> 01:47:50.760
+who supposedly his arch em is in arch one of his arch and nemesis in 2020 was none other than
+
+01:47:50.760 --> 01:47:56.840
+Kevin McCarid, who convinced me that I should fight with him against the silver salesman.
+
+01:48:02.360 --> 01:48:09.000
+Ladies and gentlemen, this is breaking very fast. The illusion is breaking because all of these
+
+01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:15.240
+people have underestimated our ability to look back on the internet itself and see the videos
+
+01:48:15.240 --> 01:48:24.520
+that they did and see a pattern that's incongruent. But it's very incongruent when you're liars
+
+01:48:25.320 --> 01:48:29.960
+and you have to keep track of all the lies that you told it's really hard.
+
+01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:37.720
+Especially when there's videos of all the previous lies that you told and anyone can go look at
+
+01:48:37.720 --> 01:48:46.360
+them and if they spend enough time, if they waste enough time on the drama, then all kinds of stuff
+
+01:48:46.360 --> 01:48:54.600
+seems to fall out. Of people that just want to hate and there's nothing to be done about it.
+
+01:48:54.600 --> 01:48:58.680
+You just kind of have to suck it up. Snowflake and deal with it.
+
+01:49:02.920 --> 01:49:07.880
+That was the one that was more hurtful than the decision by the committee. I could have used the
+
+01:49:07.880 --> 01:49:16.840
+money. But Kariko and Weisman have already scooped up the Lasker award, the similar award from the
+
+01:49:16.840 --> 01:49:21.880
+Israeli government. When they got the Lasker award, they wore masks for the photo.
+
+01:49:22.600 --> 01:49:31.720
+Her award from the Spanish government. There was clearly a big push here and this is big science
+
+01:49:32.680 --> 01:49:39.720
+and that's just the way big science goes. If you don't, one of the things early in my career
+
+01:49:40.440 --> 01:49:49.080
+at the Salk, one of the competitors to ender verma was Tony Hunter, who also ran Nobel Laureate.
+
+01:49:49.080 --> 01:49:57.320
+I guess I'm now an also ran. For some of his key work, Brilliant Man. Mine like a trap.
+
+01:49:58.200 --> 01:50:05.880
+And he once said to me, if you think this is the last major discovery you're ever going to make,
+
+01:50:05.880 --> 01:50:12.200
+then you should get out of science right now. This is basically a bucket up
+
+01:50:14.360 --> 01:50:21.320
+and don't line. And this is just the way things are. Science is a hard ball game.
+
+01:50:22.280 --> 01:50:28.120
+And so, and the other thing about this, you're asking about the emotional state.
+
+01:50:29.400 --> 01:50:36.680
+My entire professional career, I've had to deal psychologically with the gaslighting and
+
+01:50:37.960 --> 01:50:46.760
+denialism and all of this wire line. And this is just the way things are. Science is going to make,
+
+01:50:46.920 --> 01:50:55.000
+then you should to me and for some of his key work, Brilliant Man. It's all one of the competitors
+
+01:50:55.000 --> 01:51:02.680
+to ender verma was Tony Hunter, who was also ran Nobel Laureate. I guess I'm now an also ran.
+
+01:51:04.600 --> 01:51:09.240
+And for some of his key work, Brilliant Man. Mine like a trap.
+
+01:51:10.200 --> 01:51:17.880
+And he once said to me, if you think this is the last major discovery you're ever going to make,
+
+01:51:17.880 --> 01:51:24.120
+then you should get out of science right now. This is basically a bucket up
+
+01:51:26.280 --> 01:51:33.240
+and don't line. And this is just the way things are. Science is a hard ball game.
+
+01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:40.040
+And so, and the other thing about this, you're asking about the emotional state.
+
+01:51:41.400 --> 01:51:48.600
+My entire professional career, I've had to deal psychologically with the gaslighting and
+
+01:51:49.880 --> 01:51:56.280
+denialism and all of this. And so, I kind of almost had a lot of that, that emotional
+
+01:51:58.120 --> 01:51:59.320
+baggage burned out of me.
+
+01:52:00.280 --> 01:52:06.840
+You know, I'm going to say something now, and I had responded to a few comments on social
+
+01:52:06.840 --> 01:52:14.280
+media as well. And I, as I wrote something, I reflected on it. And my feeling is that the
+
+01:52:14.280 --> 01:52:25.080
+technology has some limitations. But my honest instinct is that they did it with the wrong disease
+
+01:52:25.800 --> 01:52:35.560
+at too big a scale. Meaning that if they had done what the intention was, which was to focus on the
+
+01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:44.760
+high risk cohort and try to protect them with the technology, I think the risk or the potential
+
+01:52:44.760 --> 01:52:51.480
+exposure of the technology would have been significantly lower. But the exposure of the
+
+01:52:51.480 --> 01:52:57.240
+technology would have been significantly lower. Exactly. You would not have been able to see
+
+01:52:57.240 --> 01:53:02.840
+that the technology sucked because it would have just killed old and vulnerable people with
+
+01:53:02.840 --> 01:53:10.040
+comorbidities. That's what they should have done. If they were really just intending to get rid of
+
+01:53:10.040 --> 01:53:19.160
+the get rid of as much chaff as they could. And he just said it right there. The technology
+
+01:53:19.160 --> 01:53:23.560
+would not have been as exposed if they had just used it on the weak and vulnerable.
+
+01:53:25.880 --> 01:53:31.160
+But they used it on all kinds of healthy people. And now we've got a problem. Did you hear it?
+
+01:53:33.160 --> 01:53:42.680
+The technology for your scale, meaning that if they had done what the intention was, which was
+
+01:53:42.680 --> 01:53:51.240
+to focus on the high risk cohort and try to protect them with the technology, I think the
+
+01:53:51.240 --> 01:53:59.320
+risk or the potential exposure of the technology would have been significantly lower. And I said
+
+01:53:59.320 --> 01:54:06.600
+something here. I'll finish with this statement. I said that no matter what the political situation
+
+01:54:06.600 --> 01:54:15.800
+is, the people who have been hurt in one way or the other by the technology will never
+
+01:54:16.360 --> 01:54:25.000
+be silent. And that's in effect the thing that is unstoppable. And so the platform, even though
+
+01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:32.360
+it could have more modifications, more benefits, could be destroyed at this altar. Any thoughts on
+
+01:54:32.360 --> 01:54:39.800
+that? So I had warned about this, and not just the platform, but the entire vaccine enterprise
+
+01:54:39.800 --> 01:54:46.840
+has been compromised. And public faith in public health, the reputation of the CDC,
+
+01:54:46.840 --> 01:54:53.480
+the reputation of the FDA, I speak about this from time to time. I was speaking to a Portuguese
+
+01:54:53.480 --> 01:55:00.040
+audience about a year and a half or two years ago. And an older woman asked me a question and
+
+01:55:00.120 --> 01:55:06.920
+prefaced it with a preamble. And she made the point that throughout Europe, the FDA had always
+
+01:55:06.920 --> 01:55:15.960
+been believed to be the gold standard for integrity and rigor in regulation of drugs and
+
+01:55:15.960 --> 01:55:22.040
+biological products. And that she had come to now understand that the FDA was corrupt
+
+01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:29.080
+and could not be relied on. And when she said that, I had not allowed that thought to come
+
+01:55:29.160 --> 01:55:36.200
+into my mind up until that point, he didn't think the FDA was corrupt, even though he was
+
+01:55:36.200 --> 01:55:43.160
+involved in getting $10 billion worth of grant money from the United States government. And it
+
+01:55:43.160 --> 01:55:51.960
+involved in bringing lots of different technologies to market via the FDA. In fact, what did he say?
+
+01:55:52.600 --> 01:56:00.520
+Holy shit. He said he worked for a regulatory affairs sweatshop, which had to do with FDA
+
+01:56:00.520 --> 01:56:11.080
+regulations. He didn't know that the FDA was not to be trusted until then, even though he was
+
+01:56:11.080 --> 01:56:16.280
+in the business for 20 years of taking advantage of gaming that system.
+
+01:56:17.160 --> 01:56:26.360
+I mean, can you believe it? Can you believe that he's even got the gall to talk these words,
+
+01:56:26.360 --> 01:56:35.160
+to speak these words in this order? But of course he is. He's woozy on with right now. He's on with
+
+01:56:35.160 --> 01:56:47.480
+somebody who's on his team. And it was not and rigor in regulation of drugs and biological
+
+01:56:47.480 --> 01:56:55.960
+products. And that she had come to now understand that the FDA was corrupt and could not be relied
+
+01:56:55.960 --> 01:57:02.040
+on. And when she said that, I had not allowed that thought to come into my mind up until that
+
+01:57:02.040 --> 01:57:09.000
+point. And it literally hit me like a brick to the head. That's absurd. That's as absurd as his
+
+01:57:09.000 --> 01:57:19.400
+story that he didn't know what the w w w w w w e f or seppy and all these other things people
+
+01:57:19.400 --> 01:57:27.320
+were up to before he was told about it at the start of the pandemic. That's the story. That's
+
+01:57:27.400 --> 01:57:33.720
+the story that we are told that Robert Malone didn't know about the w f until someone else told
+
+01:57:33.720 --> 01:57:40.920
+him during the pandemic. He just woke up. He didn't even know that the FDA was corrupt until someone
+
+01:57:40.920 --> 01:57:53.880
+in Portugal told him. Um, in this rush, this Operation Warp Speed, and all of the profit rush
+
+01:57:53.880 --> 01:58:00.680
+Operation Warp Speed. Uh oh, I wonder who he's who he's thrown under the bus here. Again, uh,
+
+01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:10.120
+in Miss wouldn't that be convenient? Just in time. Coming to the rescue of the blue side.
+
+01:58:10.120 --> 01:58:15.000
+Information and disinformation that was propagated by the government and the withholding of
+
+01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:22.600
+information about adverse events, for instance, myocarditis in particular. Uh, what we had done
+
+01:58:22.680 --> 01:58:26.440
+as a United States health and human services and, uh,
+
+01:58:27.320 --> 01:58:35.880
+by defense infrastructure and and really biomedical pharmaceutical complex is we had destroyed or
+
+01:58:35.880 --> 01:58:44.760
+severely damaged our competitive position in the world as the preeminent, uh, developer and
+
+01:58:44.760 --> 01:58:51.480
+manufacturer of these types of products. And my prediction had been then, and I think we're seeing
+
+01:58:51.480 --> 01:58:59.880
+it accelerate that what would be the logical consequence would be that the United States would
+
+01:58:59.880 --> 01:59:09.800
+continue to lose its its dominant position in biopharmaceuticals to India and China, one of which
+
+01:59:09.800 --> 01:59:16.120
+is considered a hostile nation. And the other one is at best a frenemy, uh, certainly a strong
+
+01:59:16.120 --> 01:59:22.920
+competitor. And that's, that's what's happened. The United States now has to import not only final
+
+01:59:22.920 --> 01:59:29.560
+drug product, but, uh, drug precursors, if they're going to do that. And the reputation of the FDA
+
+01:59:29.560 --> 01:59:38.360
+is trashed globally and, uh, within the States. I, the damage that's been done here, uh, through,
+
+01:59:39.320 --> 01:59:47.800
+uh, the logic of emergency use authorization of, uh, products that are proven to be neither safe nor
+
+01:59:47.800 --> 02:00:00.360
+effective. Uh, in response to what was, uh, basically marketed or propagandized as a highly lethal
+
+02:00:00.440 --> 02:00:08.600
+respiratory virus with a 3.4% case fatality rate. When it based on Ferguson's modeling largely,
+
+02:00:09.400 --> 02:00:17.080
+uh, in Imperial college and his group, uh, and has proven to be paradoxically, Mr. Trump got this
+
+02:00:17.080 --> 02:00:24.920
+right. Early on, he, there's multiple video clips of him saying that the fatality rate here, I think
+
+02:00:25.000 --> 02:00:32.520
+he calls it mortality rate is well less than 1%. That turns out to be the case. Uh, and the whole
+
+02:00:33.080 --> 02:00:38.360
+logic that did, and so why won't he explain that they did something in New York City, which Jessica
+
+02:00:38.360 --> 02:00:45.640
+Hockett has identified as like a bomb going off and then using those numbers out of context
+
+02:00:48.680 --> 02:00:53.320
+and spreading that out throughout the United States in certain places where the protocols could
+
+02:00:53.400 --> 02:01:04.280
+be enacted, they were able to create a brief pulse of increase in all cause mortality that they then
+
+02:01:04.280 --> 02:01:15.560
+extrapolated from. It's not just the models. It's the models plus this little tiny start blip
+
+02:01:16.360 --> 02:01:20.840
+that was required so that everybody could say, but do you see it? It's right here. It's starting.
+
+02:01:21.400 --> 02:01:27.960
+It's about to go to a billion people dead. And then of course, as Jessica Hockett showed,
+
+02:01:27.960 --> 02:01:34.440
+it just went up. And three weeks later, it went down and it never went up again for the rest of the
+
+02:01:34.440 --> 02:01:43.880
+year. And so is he going to point that out? Is he going to explain that it wasn't just the
+
+02:01:43.880 --> 02:01:51.080
+exaggeration of the danger of the virus, but it was actually the inversion of the protocols,
+
+02:01:51.080 --> 02:02:00.680
+the imposition of the protocols, the complete reduction of the use of antibiotics to treat
+
+02:02:00.680 --> 02:02:11.160
+secondary pneumonia? And do you know that a lot of these EUA PCR tests, when those results came back,
+
+02:02:12.040 --> 02:02:19.000
+they said under the results that this PCR test cannot rule out effects from secondary
+
+02:02:19.000 --> 02:02:24.920
+pneumonia and secondary bacterial infection. Almost all of them say that. Look it up.
+
+02:02:25.960 --> 02:02:34.840
+Interpreting these results positive cannot rule out the effects of secondary bacterial infection.
+
+02:02:35.000 --> 02:02:48.360
+This was a highly lethal virus that would overwhelm our hospitals, cause us to need to have mass
+
+02:02:48.360 --> 02:02:56.920
+graves and pre-servants full of dead bodies and et cetera, et cetera. That's all turned out to be
+
+02:02:56.920 --> 02:03:06.280
+false propaganda. But that is what has been used to justify these breaches of what are really
+
+02:03:06.280 --> 02:03:12.040
+international norms of ethics and product development that have been developed over decades. And so
+
+02:03:12.680 --> 02:03:21.480
+we're now left. I discredited Fauci hotels and Collins since 2020. Collins and his
+
+02:03:21.480 --> 02:03:29.320
+immunomethology was in my stream for the first year and a half of my work. Those children have
+
+02:03:29.320 --> 02:03:34.600
+been dismissed a long time ago. So I'm sorry you missed it, but I won't go backwards to them. Those
+
+02:03:34.600 --> 02:03:42.920
+guys are stooges. Francis Collins is not a genius. Even Tony Fauci is not a genius. These are stooges.
+
+02:03:44.120 --> 02:03:46.120
+I could tell you my colleagues in the
+
+02:03:46.440 --> 02:03:51.560
+clinical development and earlier phase pharmaceutical development space
+
+02:03:52.520 --> 02:04:05.400
+are perplexed now. What's happened in the states with regulatory affairs in the FDA
+
+02:04:06.040 --> 02:04:13.720
+is that what had previously been a fairly rigorous and highly structured process.
+
+02:04:14.600 --> 02:04:21.000
+We all knew the rules. We knew what the process was. We could project how much it costs. We could
+
+02:04:21.000 --> 02:04:28.200
+project the timelines and grind away for a decade to get the product developed and safe and effective.
+
+02:04:29.240 --> 02:04:37.160
+And now it's kind of anything goes if they want it to go. And if they want to hold you to
+
+02:04:38.120 --> 02:04:44.360
+higher standards, they will and you can't predict what it's going to be. People are left with,
+
+02:04:44.360 --> 02:04:52.680
+well, who do I have to pay off? What do I have to do? The whole system is now compromised.
+
+02:04:52.680 --> 02:04:59.080
+Its integrity is compromised. And he just figured it out recently because some
+
+02:04:59.640 --> 02:05:05.640
+woman at a talk that he was giving in Portugal pointed it out to him. Before that, he didn't
+
+02:05:05.640 --> 02:05:09.400
+realize that the FDA was corrupt. All kinds of implications.
+
+02:05:10.200 --> 02:05:14.520
+I want to ask you a part of the question because another piece of the puzzle, even though we speak
+
+02:05:14.520 --> 02:05:22.200
+of mRNA, the delivery system with regards to lipid nanoparticles. And I heard you speaking about
+
+02:05:22.200 --> 02:05:30.680
+this recently. And I also had a recent conference and someone, Christy Grace, had made some very
+
+02:05:30.680 --> 02:05:37.480
+important comments about this. And I just brought up here one of the paper that shows major delivery
+
+02:05:37.480 --> 02:05:48.760
+systems for these mRNA. Those graphics are grossly naive. Oh, are they? Yes. So all I want to know
+
+02:05:48.760 --> 02:05:58.280
+is that when you see the different strategies for delivering the mRNA, have we ever at this scale
+
+02:05:58.280 --> 02:06:08.440
+used the LNP in this kind of way? Are there any risks with that? Separate apart from the mRNA?
+
+02:06:09.480 --> 02:06:18.360
+Yes, is the answer. And we know this because of data that was shared by Moderna about their phase
+
+02:06:18.360 --> 02:06:23.400
+one dose escalation trials with their influenza vaccine candidate was shared to their
+
+02:06:23.960 --> 02:06:31.960
+sock holders. It wasn't made public, which shows that at the 100 mic level with the flu expression
+
+02:06:31.960 --> 02:06:42.520
+vectors, RNA, they had an enormously high adverse event rate. Something like 30 or 40 percent of
+
+02:06:42.520 --> 02:06:48.920
+the patients enrolled at 100 mics had developed serious adverse events over a fairly short period
+
+02:06:48.920 --> 02:06:58.600
+of time. So only because a lot of this work is not being done rigorously and by basically treaty
+
+02:06:59.320 --> 02:07:04.760
+based on a meeting that was held chaired by Margaret Liu at the World Health Organization
+
+02:07:05.320 --> 02:07:12.040
+little over a year ago, the decision has been made within Western regulatory authorities
+
+02:07:12.760 --> 02:07:19.800
+that the candidate lipid formulation that you were just referring to that, by the way,
+
+02:07:20.520 --> 02:07:29.800
+if somebody in my opinion, if you're going to give the Nobel for the enabling technology.
+
+02:07:31.800 --> 02:07:36.440
+The people that should have got it was Peter Collas at University of British Columbia and his
+
+02:07:36.440 --> 02:07:41.880
+colleagues because that is the enabling technology. And that technology is licensed to
+
+02:07:41.880 --> 02:07:48.280
+a company that I think Justin Trudeau's family owns a lot of, but I could be wrong.
+
+02:07:48.280 --> 02:07:56.120
+Is that the lipids in formulation structure in the East of Pegg that is used by all
+
+02:07:56.760 --> 02:08:05.800
+Keraback Moderna and Biointech, Pfizer, that's who really made the breakthroughs
+
+02:08:06.440 --> 02:08:13.800
+after decades and decades of hard work. And I've known Peter Collas throughout my career as one of
+
+02:08:13.800 --> 02:08:22.360
+the top lipid formulation specialists in the world. And if I can just thanks for joining Janet
+
+02:08:22.360 --> 02:08:28.360
+horse a little further, there were three companies in the running originally. The third one was
+
+02:08:28.360 --> 02:08:34.200
+called Keraback and he was they were funded by an obscure investor that you've never heard of
+
+02:08:34.200 --> 02:08:43.640
+before called Elon Musk. And they ran a more conservative phase one trial with antibody
+
+02:08:43.640 --> 02:08:51.720
+titers as endpoints in humans in which they used a significantly lower dose than even Pfizer did.
+
+02:08:51.720 --> 02:08:58.920
+Member of Moderna's three times Pfizer. Are you hearing that Elon Musk's RNA company used
+
+02:08:58.920 --> 02:09:04.760
+a similar mRNA but without pseudo-uridine and they still got a robust response? Not as robust
+
+02:09:04.760 --> 02:09:11.560
+as the high dosage of Moderna or of the pseudo-uridine treated high dosage of Pfizer,
+
+02:09:12.840 --> 02:09:18.200
+but they got a good reaction. They got of antibody response and they didn't have to use pseudo-uridine.
+
+02:09:19.960 --> 02:09:28.120
+Is Keraback the company of Elon Musk being set up as the next best mRNA production line?
+
+02:09:29.320 --> 02:09:36.440
+Interesting. And Keraback was a fraction of the Pfizer dose but Keraback did not use pseudo-uridine
+
+02:09:37.560 --> 02:09:43.720
+and it got a robust body response but not as high as those that had used the higher doses.
+
+02:09:44.600 --> 02:09:48.600
+And they couldn't get funding to carry forward with the product development and it was dropped.
+
+02:09:49.480 --> 02:09:55.160
+But those data demonstrate that you don't have to have the pseudo-uridine. It works just fine
+
+02:09:55.160 --> 02:10:00.120
+without it. And Moderna didn't use to use the pseudo-uridine. It made a decision kind of the
+
+02:10:00.120 --> 02:10:08.760
+last minute to license the enzyme. But the cationic lipid formulations are intrinsically toxic.
+
+02:10:09.960 --> 02:10:16.920
+The mRNA and its immunosuppressive characteristics because this isn't really mRNA. This is a chemically
+
+02:10:16.920 --> 02:10:24.360
+synthesized molecule that has pseudo-uridine of whichever form throughout its backbone. That's
+
+02:10:24.360 --> 02:10:31.000
+not a normal characteristic of RNA. The placement of pseudo-uridine in normal RNA is very strategic
+
+02:10:31.720 --> 02:10:36.040
+and specific in where it's placed, not all the way through the molecule.
+
+02:10:37.640 --> 02:10:43.000
+And it is absolutely immunosuppressive. That was the intention but that's a double-edged sword,
+
+02:10:43.960 --> 02:10:48.920
+especially when you do them with immune responses. And then there's the spike protein.
+
+02:10:49.640 --> 02:10:56.200
+And if we compare, for instance, by the FDA and CDC's own admission,
+
+02:10:58.440 --> 02:11:07.160
+the Novavax product, which is caterpillar cell produced and caterpillar virus produced spike
+
+02:11:07.160 --> 02:11:15.400
+protein, the adenoviral-vectored products, one of which the J&J had been sold in the United States
+
+02:11:15.400 --> 02:11:22.600
+until recently. And the two RNA products that also express the spike, they all have the common
+
+02:11:22.600 --> 02:11:31.320
+feature of cardiotoxicity, the myocarditis and pericarditis, and yet their core platforms
+
+02:11:31.320 --> 02:11:38.360
+when used for other purposes do not show that characteristic. So major problems with myocarditis
+
+02:11:38.360 --> 02:11:44.760
+and pericarditis in coagulopathy were not problems with prior adenovctored vaccine candidates.
+
+02:11:45.720 --> 02:11:51.880
+They haven't been problems with prior Novavax technology candidates. So I think it's reasonable
+
+02:11:51.880 --> 02:12:01.960
+to conclude, you're a scientist, that this is basic Sesame Street stuff. We have these different
+
+02:12:01.960 --> 02:12:07.720
+products, they have one common characteristic, they cause this spike protein to be present in
+
+02:12:07.720 --> 02:12:12.920
+the body at very high levels in a very abrupt kinetic, very different from the natural infection.
+
+02:12:13.720 --> 02:12:20.040
+And systemically, rather than mucosally, so very different, again, from natural infection,
+
+02:12:20.600 --> 02:12:26.040
+and they all have this common feature of cardiotoxicity and coagulopathy and stroke and everything.
+
+02:12:26.680 --> 02:12:35.640
+And so my thesis is that we have a cluster of toxicities that are attributable to the formulation
+
+02:12:35.640 --> 02:12:40.520
+itself in the presence of a polynucleotide, because you can't make these particles, the
+
+02:12:40.520 --> 02:12:45.960
+peter colus particles in the absence of a polynucleotide. They have to have a polymer,
+
+02:12:45.960 --> 02:12:52.680
+an anionic polymer to self-assemble, you know, based on ionic interactions.
+
+02:12:54.600 --> 02:13:00.600
+So the lipid particle is toxic, the mRNA is immunosuppressive, that's a toxicity,
+
+02:13:00.600 --> 02:13:10.360
+and the spike protein is toxic. Those toxicities overlap, and the vector sum of those are particles
+
+02:13:11.240 --> 02:13:19.480
+in a process that has been very, is very complex from a pharmaceutical standpoint,
+
+02:13:20.120 --> 02:13:26.200
+and involves multiple active new chemical entities.
+
+02:13:27.400 --> 02:13:34.760
+So I want to ask you a question, Robert, and I wanted to think about from a scientific perspective
+
+02:13:34.760 --> 02:13:45.000
+as a scientist. I am baffled why the scientific community as a whole, you know, the public seems
+
+02:13:45.000 --> 02:13:52.280
+to have clued in a lot of the public that something isn't quite right. Why is there this almost
+
+02:13:53.000 --> 02:14:00.440
+ideological perspective? It's because the narrative has been curated. It's because the
+
+02:14:00.440 --> 02:14:06.760
+narrative has been curated by people like Robert Malone, being on streams with Dr. Philip McMillan,
+
+02:14:07.480 --> 02:14:13.960
+curating a narrative about an investigational vaccine and about a novel virus that we needed
+
+02:14:13.960 --> 02:14:20.280
+to do something for. That's the reason why we're here. That's the answer. There's about 30 or 40
+
+02:14:20.280 --> 02:14:26.040
+more minutes of this interview, but like Kim Traveler, I'm also getting tired. I think I'm
+
+02:14:26.120 --> 02:14:31.240
+going to cut it short right here. I hope you don't mind. Watch the rest of this and see if
+
+02:14:31.240 --> 02:14:36.680
+there's anything interesting for me to pull out a drop in the next couple of streams. Someone dropped
+
+02:14:36.680 --> 02:14:45.240
+a little thread in here about data sciences and Vivek and Kushner, and it's interesting,
+
+02:14:45.240 --> 02:14:50.840
+so they didn't check it out. Click on it. Thanks very much for joining me, guys. This has been
+
+02:14:50.840 --> 02:14:55.960
+Giga Home Biological, a high resistance low noise information brief brought to you by a biologist.
+
+02:14:56.760 --> 02:15:00.440
+Don't forget the Ninja Mouse Killer injection of any combination of substances with the
+
+02:15:00.440 --> 02:15:05.240
+intent of augmenting the immune system. It's dumb, and if that's too complicated for you,
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+02:15:05.240 --> 02:15:11.400
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+Brought to you by a biologist since the 8th of October, 2023.
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+Gotta break this pattern of a misleading the young. We can do it.
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+We can do it.
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+Oh, we got a two-inch teachin' the history and not let this recent history be erased.
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+Some people can't see it. Some people can't see it. And they need our help.
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+There was no spread in New York City, ladies and gentlemen. It's not in the data.
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+Infectious clones are the only real threat out there in the molecular biology world.
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+The placebo batches were most likely distributed in the EU and elsewhere.
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+The transfection has always been dumb and healthy mammals.
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+That would be fish from 2001 live at Clifford Ball on August 16th, 1996.
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+How's that for some Star Trek radio station? Thank you very much for joining me ladies and gentlemen.
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+This has been Kiggle and Biological Eye Resistance Low Noise. Information brief brought to you by a biologist.
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+It is the 8th of October, 2023. My name is Jonathan Cooey. Coming to you live from the back of my garage with some sound effects provided by
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+you. How do I do that? I need to stop that and go back over here.
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+Do you hear this extra wind? Oh yeah, the heater is on. Do you hear that extra wind in the background or not?
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+If you do, I can go behind the curtain and turn it off really quick but hopefully it will warm up in here and then it will stop.
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+I can really turn it down at some point.
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+So anyway, thanks for joining me. Don't take the bait on social media and TV.
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+And by no stretch of the imagination, should you misconstrue that to think that I'm saying that the stuff about whatever's happening in the Middle East is somehow bait.
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+I don't know what's happening there. It's not that I don't know that something's happening there but I don't think any of us know what's happening there because we're getting all of our media
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+and all of our information from sources that are wholly controlled.
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+And we've been trying to get a grasp on this for quite some time and I thought it would be a good night to go back into the archives.
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+I went back about, it's a little more than two years to try and look at my first few slide decks to see if there was anything that I started with that still just stays really relevant.
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+I thought I'd bring some of those up tonight.
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+It's not a matter of what is true that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true.
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+This is supposedly a quote from Henry Kissinger.
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+We are being governed by a set of mythologies that is not limited to, of course, not limited to public health but encompasses most or all of foreign policy and what we've been up to for the last 20 years.
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+Really with regard to how we spend our taxpayers money.
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+And this combination of over pricing and embezzlement and loss and whatever has resulted in our children being cheated out of a future that they should have had as a result of what was a prosperous nation at the start of its history.
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+And so that's really where we are. It's just a matter of what's perceived to be true and I've been making this argument that there's an illusion of consensus if people on the talk shows in the morning, people on the Fox News programs at night, and the people on your social media streams and feeds all agree that something is really great.
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+Many of them were primed. Many of them were offered, coerced, coached, gently coerced. I don't know what the right words would be to use how many different way they were fluent. I have this slide back from 2021.
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+And what this slide was originally intended to do was try to portray how it was that we have been misled about the biology of a pandemic.
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+This graphic right here represents my family when we were growing up and the idea that whatever your common narrative is about hard work and being honest and showing up on time gets you well paid and then you know you get a good job and everything is great.
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+Back in this pre social media era, mom, dad, my sister, myself, and my brother all had the same phone number and the same phone rang on the wall for all of us.
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+They're all in the crash position right now facing the wall of their cage. Well not the two people on top but those are us.
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+Our common narrative is kind of being destroyed. And it's unfortunate but that is where we are.
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+It is the biology that unites us. And yet right now with this gender ideology and everything else with children to do with gender studies or gender sciences or whatever this is and teaching children that this is a word and a concept that they need to think about
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+Would break along political lines. It also doesn't make sense that our basic uptake of the vaccine would break on political lines unless.
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+So we've got to be very careful because we're here we're really far we pushed the ball so far that I decided to play some really great music in the start.
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+But we've got to be careful about how we move forward now because there are traps everywhere and everybody's coming for us now.
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+Because mice die in traps because they do not understand why the cheese is free. Do you remember when I was saying this all the time.
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+And so this is the trap right this is the story that they told us the mythology and the faith.
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+There's a novel virus we had to do something what we did was mRNA and it saved at least 14 million lives.
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+We gave it Nobel Prize for it. It could have been done better with the higher quality control and maybe used to only process one.
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+But we'll have a next time because this was again a function virus that will definitely come again that's the faith.
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+This is the biological brown truth the real immunology and all viruses are not the same to our immune system.
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+This is what I was saying three years ago right so this is a little dated.
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+You know it's still the no virus people are going to hate me but we as far as the cartoon biology as far as the biology and the books behind me goes.
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+If you believe that are some viruses and that some viruses interact with our immune system there are viruses like measles for which we have measured immune responses.
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+There are there are diseases like flu and polio and other diseases that we've looked at and think that it might be viruses that are triggering them.
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+But we've also been very very very carefully able to characterize the fact that some of these viruses whatever they are some of these diseases whatever they are activate our immune system in a very different way than whatever coronaviruses are.
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+And so three years ago when I used this slide to describe the biology as I understood it then it was pretty dang accurate with regard to the PubMed status of virology and the immunology in response to them.
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+And in that standard or in that canon of literature I assure you that measles is more immunoreactive than mumps is more immunoreactive than coronavirus and therefore the more immunoreactive you are to a virus that tends to be easier to make a vaccine to.
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+And to get your body to react something that it doesn't normally that react that much to like a coronavirus is difficult because again you're trying to augment an immune system that you don't fully understand.
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+And you don't understand why it immune the immune response mounted to a coronavirus is so meager compared to that of a measles virus.
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+And that's what we all also were saying that neither are all immunizations and this is where we were talking about Christine's to Bell Ben over and over again from 2021 onward.
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+And what did Christine's to Bell Ben's show everybody she showed that live attenuated vaccines.
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+Kids didn't have a higher rate of the disease.
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+The disease is that the vaccine was supposed to protect from I think this was a detail.
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+But of all the mortality in the children is five times higher in the ones that had that didn't have the live attenuated vaccine and that's extraordinary.
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+So not all vaccines not all immunizations are the same either and while they were telling us that antibodies equal immunity I was saying that it's D to T to be because these T cells are the main response to a coronavirus T cells are the main immune response in the body period.
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+For cancerous cells it's T cells and not all humans are equally vulnerable to disease you could say to respiratory distress respiratory disease because it does really matter how healthy you are does matter how old you are does matter whether you exercise or not.
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+Do I need to say this every night.
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+I mean really do I need to say this every night intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
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+I've been trying to look at these people maps and figure a little bit out and a couple nights ago Denny and Peter Ron please check it out.
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+We also did a show very recently about Phillip Buckholtz and his speech before the South Carolina Senate about the DNA that has been found in the RNA shots.
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+He lauded MRNA as a technology and assured us that this technology would be wonderful if it wasn't for the DNA or for the poor choice and antigen.
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+And he's also intimately involved from the beginning with the PCR shenanigans.
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+And this is the result. So we've added him to the map.
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+We also a couple three weeks ago looked at Kevin McCarron and Charles Wixie as they appeared on Veijon health conference and that was the 26th of August.
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+And that was quite interesting because we have been following Phillip McMillan for some time here on GIGO and biological because he's had cared for in Bosch on his stream more than anything else.
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+Now I haven't done that many streams of Phillip, but I assure you I've had my eye on him for a while.
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+And of course that was also just after we had had this huge run in with George Webb where first he was swearing at us and telling us we were terrible and we were we were amateur hour.
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+And then he was being real nice to us after we said no your liar and Paul Catrell is a liar and you guys were laying down the worst case scenario in 2020 as part of a necessary campaign to make sure that there was going to be enough time.
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+For them to roll out the new vaccines.
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+I mean it had to be a big enough emergency otherwise they weren't going to be able to do it.
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+It had to be as it said in the Nobel Prize statement, one of the worst crises ever to face mankind in history.
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+And that narrative was laid down on purpose deliberately.
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+People were encouraged to do it, maybe even given comfort, prestige, promises of fame and fortune to do it.
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+Many of them, you can't underestimate how many of them.
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+And you can really tell them by how many of them can actually tell the whole story or ever bother to try when they're put in front of a microphone.
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+You know like Mike Eden does when he says well first of all you got to know that everything was a lie.
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+How many of the people on this screen start like that?
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+Now it became very interesting the other day because suddenly here comes Dr. Phillip McMillan again into the scene and this time he's live streaming with Robert Malone.
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+Now that of course becomes very curious because if he can stream with Robert Malone, Robert Malone was streaming with Paul Cottrell already in 2021.
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+Then he also said he was streaming with Vajon Health in 21.
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+So in June of 21 he streamed with with Paul Cottrell, Vajon Health Phillip McMillan and Brett Weinstein like that was the network.
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+And so since George Webb is really connected to Paul Cottrell and Robert Malone has streamed with Paul Cottrell and with Vajon Health and continues to stream with Vajon Health.
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+And Kevin McCairn was streaming with Paul Cottrell like for three months straight at the beginning saying there's going to be a billion people dead.
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+And then when I left drastic because I didn't want to pay attention to the diffuse proposal anymore and I wanted to fight transfection Charles Rixie tried to bring me back in.
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+Then we went to the CHD conference Charles Rixie told me three times that Robert Malone remembered him for my podcast but not me and how funny that was.
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+I don't know why or how or whether they're just you know pen pals or they exchanged emails somewhere at the Boston conference maybe and in the beginning of the year I don't know of 2020.
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+But something's really screwy because Vajon Health is nobody that should have connected all of these people together.
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+There's no reason for that to be the case.
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+There's no reason for that to be the case because remember I told you Vajon Health has been streaming with with Heron Fund and Bosch quite some bit.
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+And who worked together at Solvay with Heron Fund and Bosch mom are Robert Malone did.
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+They've known each other since 2007.
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+There's quite an interesting network of people that has been slowly crafting the narrative on our side close slowly crafting the narrative of doubt but not really doubt.
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+You can't doubt that there was ever a coronavirus spreading like mad around the world.
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+You can doubt whether it was natural or whether it was a lab leak.
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+You can't ever doubt that the majority of the people were killed by the virus.
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+You can't suggest that the majority of the people were killed by the protocols or those people won't talk to you anymore.
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+You're just being crazy. There's a bioweapon.
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+That's how you can see.
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+They're all they're all exactly on faith.
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+They're all wearing the robes.
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+They're all altar boys because none of them question it.
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+They won't even dare question it because that's exactly what their job is not to do to perpetuate the novel virus narrative the novel virus narrative that requires some novel things to be done.
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+That requires us to know nothing at the beginning of the pandemic about what to do or what would work.
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+And that we don't have any idea what could go what what could be the worst case scenario a billion people dead.
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+I don't know. Let's let you see else simulate it.
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+Wow. I got this video that says that Remdesivir is going to work in Taiwan.
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+This illusion of consensus about a worst case scenario is a possibility in the beginning.
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+This illusion of consensus of the mystery that needed to be solved whether it was a natural or lab league.
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+This illusion of consensus that we know nothing about what would work for a respiratory disease that manifests itself as a RDS.
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+Which is a lie, but they did it together as a consensus.
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+Some of them were speaking out in 2020. Some of them were still trying to get contracts in 2020.
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+Some of them spoke out in 2021. Some of them didn't speak out until 2022.
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+Some of them had lots of choices that they could have made other than pushing the worst case scenario other than pushing the lab league other than arguing about never get this virus because you never know what could happen.
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+It's flying AIDS, but they didn't.
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+They didn't question the narrative. They didn't question the faith and we need to wake up and realize that anybody that's not questioning the faith right now is a problem.
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+If they're not saying first and foremost, they have lied to us about how these people died and that they have tried to increase all cause mortality by every possible means at their disposal including
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+increasing the number of opioid deaths and rolling it in, including rolling in suicides, including decreasing the use of antibiotics, including
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+decreasing the way that they resuscitate people who had heart attacks, including increasing the number of people that they ventilated, including paying $35,000 for people to declare dead as COVID.
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+They did all of that and yet some hour and now there are all of those people on that last screen still don't talk about any of it.
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+They don't talk about the PCR fraud either.
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+They don't talk about none of it except for the fact that there was a novel virus and it must be somebody's fault and we've got to solve that mystery before we can ever move forward and maybe we won't even be able to solve a mystery because it's fifth generation warfare.
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+And the fifth generation warfare continues of course. Why doesn't Robert Malone call this fifth generation warfare this he says well I accepted that's the way it is.
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+I get what they mean they meant there you know it's very limited language yada yada yada.
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+I already called and congratulated them.
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+I'm not jealous I'm not mad it did kind of hurt but it almost just ripped the scab off of my of my PTSD.
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+Medium turkey chili.
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+Medium crab bisque.
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+Let's watch this first one and then the second one the first one is a it's a video from.
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+Two years ago so it'll be right at the release April 19 2021 the release of the virus of the of the shot.
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+And I just want you to see this is another person who in 2021 was likely.
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+I think the best description is still auditioning she's auditioning for.
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+Possible elevation by the algorithm possible elevation by the controllers.
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+Depending on how this video does but here she's already sponsored.
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+Somebody paying her to make this video what is the video she's going to make she's going to sell something at the end.
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+She's going to make a video about how the mRNA works and she's going to get a lot of things really wrong.
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+But this is very powerful the course of course you will know.
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+This is exactly why my brother thinks I'm an idiot why my parents don't talk to me because they believe these kinds of things they believe these kinds of.
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+Productions that are edited to be extra snappy even though this girl probably had to take three takes for every lie.
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+It's painful but I haven't said at 1.5 so it'll be over in three minutes.
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+Thanks to Brilliant for supporting this episode of SciShow.
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+Check out brilliant.org slash SciShow to learn more.
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+Two of the vaccines we have for COVID-19 have the distinction of being the first mRNA vaccines to see widespread use in humans.
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+It's a vaccine technology that uses a type of molecule called RNA to teach ourselves how to resist disease.
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+So how do they work and how are they different from the litany of immunizations you probably got as a kid?
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+Let's take a look.
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+All vaccines do one basic thing they imitate a disease causing agent or pathogen with the goal of ratting it out to your immune system.
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+Then your immune system knows what to do if the pathogen ever shows up.
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+mRNA vaccines do that too but they represent a departure from the way we've introduced pathogens in the past.
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+Most of the time we've used a bit of the real thing like killed pathogens or living ones that have been weakened or just pieces of them.
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+There are even substances that bacteria just make.
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+In any case, these bits are immune systems can spot are called antigens.
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+Each antigen has a shape unique to a particular pathogen.
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+When you get a vaccine, your immune system sees the antigen and sounds the alarm.
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+That triggers the formation of memory cells that remember the bad guys as well as antibodies that disable the pathogen if it tries to invade in the future.
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+Now think about how simple that is.
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+Memory cells in antibodies.
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+How is this informed consent?
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+How is this in any way shape or form accurately representing what happens during a transfection?
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+Of course it's not.
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+But remember what this does.
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+PBS NewsHour was saying the same thing.
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+Bill Gates said the same thing three months ago.
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+Vice Nude said the same thing.
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+Vox said the same thing.
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+And so seeing another cartoon like this.
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+Well, it's an illusion of consensus that it's so easy.
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+We can draw a cartoon with some cells that have little police sirens on the top of them and everybody will take it at face value.
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+Of memory cells that remember the bad guys as well as antibodies that disable the pathogen if it tries to invade in the future.
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+Now, mRNA vaccines still accomplish that goal.
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+But instead of pieces of pathogens or any other strategy we've used in the past, they contain messenger RNA or mRNA for short.
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+It works sort of like giving ourselves a build your own antigen kit instead of the actual antigen.
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+The end product is the same.
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+But we've asked ourselves to do the heavy lifting.
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+That's because cells are kind of better at this stuff than we are.
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+We can mess around with pathogens all day, but cells already know how to make antigens if we just supply the instructions.
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+See, but that's just awful.
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+Cells already know how to make antigens if we just supply the instructions.
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+So again, it's this very disingenuous representation of the biology that they are manipulating.
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+The very disingenuous representation of the fidelity with which they can manipulate it.
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+And the very disingenuous representation of the biology that they don't understand by not telling you about it at all.
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+Lies on top of lies on top of lies.
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+And if it's oversimplification to the point of lying, it's the same thing.
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+And you must see it.
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+We must be able to show it.
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+There are countless examples of this on the Internet that need to be archived.
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+So that we can see it.
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+I mean, think of this girl as saying something like, you know, we can put those people with those hats on those trains.
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+And we can put them in those camps because they're making our, they're making our cities unclean.
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+And now it turns out that that was really a crazy idea.
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+An absolutely ridiculous idea, a racist idea.
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+But we didn't care three years ago, but there's the video right now.
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+This is what this is.
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+This is very bad biology.
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+It's very bad advice.
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+Everybody that took the shot and was damaged by it could use this, in my humble opinion, as evidence of some sort of malfeasance.
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+It's got to be.
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+And the companies that made these kinds of videos and sold out and probably took money to do it or applied for grants to do it.
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+They all need to be punished.
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+Because people got comfort from this.
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+People got rich from this.
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+We need to take this into account and then fix it.
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+I'm ready to make long lists of these creeps.
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+I don't need to drag them out in the street or anything like that, but they need to pay some recompense because I got student loans to pay off.
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+The solution is to copy out the instructions and send a message outside the nucleus.
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+You might see where this is going.
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+That message is made of messenger RNA, which contains a copy of the DNA instructions for use in protein making.
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+The message exits the nucleus and makes its way to a ribosome in the cell.
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+This piece of machinery reads the mRNA and translates the message into a protein.
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+This is where the clever part comes in because we know the genetic code, so we can write our own message for the cell to translate.
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+That's what an mRNA vaccine is, a coded genetic message from us to our cells for them to work out with their molecular decoder rings.
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+Instead of an antigen, they contain the mRNA template to build an antigen.
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+In the case of our COVID-19 vaccines, the message codes for an antigen called the spike protein.
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+These spikes stick out of the virus, which uses them like a key to unlock and infect people's cells.
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+When the shots go into people's upper arms, the mRNA molecules inside make their way into cells into ribosomes, which are more than happy to do their job and translate the message.
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+Our cells display the finished spikes on their surface. Our immune system spots them and starts taking action.
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+From there, it's thought that things work pretty much the same as more traditional vaccines.
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+The immune system makes memory cells and antibodies, and once those defenses have kicked all the way in, boom, you're ready to fight off the real deal.
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+But while we hope those memory cells will last a while, the message doesn't.
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+It never finds its way out.
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+It's the way it's going to be.
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+It's the way it's going to be.
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+It's thought that things work pretty much the same as more traditional vaccines.
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+The immune system makes memory cells and antibodies, and once those defenses have kicked all the way in, boom, you're ready to fight off the real deal.
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+But while we hope those memory cells will last a while, the message doesn't.
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+It never finds its way into the nucleus, so it can't mess with our DNA master blueprint.
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+It never is not a good word to use in biology. It never is a terrible word.
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+Because it implies a certainty that almost never exists.
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+Really, really, really bad.
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+Which means it's not manipulating our genes or anything.
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+The effects really are a lot like every other vaccine you've ever gotten.
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+The effects really are a lot like every other vaccine you've ever gotten.
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+Think about how insulting this video is now. No one what we know.
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+These mRNA vaccines were designed pretty quickly in response to the pandemic.
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+But that doesn't mean they came out of the blue.
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+In fact, scientists have known about the potential of mRNA vaccines for decades.
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+But it's taken years of testing and tweaking to get the technology right.
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+For example, researchers had to figure out how to make the RNA molecules last long enough in our bodies to actually get translated.
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+And when they figured that out, they awarded the Nobel Prize for that trick.
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+They had to work out the perfect delivery vehicle to get the mRNA into cells and minimize side effects.
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+The perfect delivery vehicle that could be manufactured into billions of doses.
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+Yep, the perfect delivery vehicle.
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+Even with all that in hand, before now, no RNA-based vaccine had ever made it out of the clinical trials.
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+And there was no guarantee they'd ever work.
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+But the ones we have for COVID-19 do work.
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+At least to the best of our knowledge so far, they're safe and effective enough to help get the pandemic under control.
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+And with the technology showing such promise, there's renewed interest in some older mRNA vaccine efforts for things like rabies and Zika.
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+Some could even fight cancer.
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+So that's what an mRNA vaccine is.
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+A novel form of vaccine that teaches ourselves how to make something your immune system can learn from.
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+They're not as different as you might think.
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+But they have a ton of potential.
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+mRNA vaccines are an elegant way to address a global crisis.
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+And if you're ready to step up your appreciation of all the elegant signs and math have to offer, you might enjoy a course from Brilliant.
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+Like their course on complex numbers, which will help you master algebra...
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+So you see what we're up against, right? It's really not good.
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+Because the people that aren't willing to work are very vulnerable to someone like that.
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+So it is my pleasure now to introduce Dr. Drew Weisman.
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+Dr. Weisman is one of the recipients of this year's Canada Gardener International Award for his pioneering work with Dr. Greco in developing new...
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+So first of all, I would like you to notice that this woman who is announcing Dr. Weisman is maskless in 2022.
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+The reason why I chose this lecture versus another one that I was going to watch is coming up in a second.
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+The content of this lecture is also quite fun.
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+I don't know if we'll make it all the way through.
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+Probably going to go until about 1030 or 1045 and then kill it.
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+Thanks for seeing me.
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+Cle aside, modified mRNA therapeutics.
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+Of course, the foundational technology for the highly...
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+Ninety-three. Good to see you all here.
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+He is the Roberts Family Professor and Vaccine Research Director of the Penn Institute for RNA Innovation and Director of Vaccine Research.
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+Infectious Diseases Division at the University of Pennsylvania, Pearlman School of Medicine.
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+So I am delighted to turn it over to Dr. Drew Weisman.
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+Thank you.
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+Thank you very much.
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+I'm highly honored to receive this award.
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+We've been treated great in Canada visiting all ends of it from the sounds of it of all the other awardees.
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+What I wanted to do in today's talk is to give you an idea of the potential breadth of RNA technologies in the future.
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+Hopefully everybody in this room has received a vaccine in their arm, but there's huge potential for what RNA can do in the future.
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+Let me just start by telling you the difference between RNA vaccines and all the other vaccines made.
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+Making an RNA vaccine is very simple.
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+You designed the sequence.
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+Katie described this.
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+You in vitro transcribe it.
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+That's a two-hour reaction.
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+You puree of value.
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+You might ask the question, why is he wearing a mask?
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+But you shouldn't ask that question.
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+He's wearing a mask because it's his job.
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+Remember, there is a Scooby-Doo being played here.
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+And the Scooby-Doo is not just about who did it.
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+It's about crafting this entire ethos on one side, which doesn't think wearing a mask is ridiculous,
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+but also doesn't think it's his place to tell everybody else in the room that they have to have a mask on.
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+But if this is a national security psychological operation on the world,
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+and it's very easy to see why he's got to wear a mask.
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+He just gets a phone call.
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+Hey, Drew, by the way, I need you to wear a mask today.
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+What?
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+I don't want to wear a mask.
+
+47:50.000 --> 47:51.000
+You got to wear a mask.
+
+47:51.000 --> 47:54.000
+We need you to be on screen wearing a mask the whole time.
+
+47:54.000 --> 47:56.000
+We need people scratching their head, Drew.
+
+47:56.000 --> 47:58.000
+Please wear a mask.
+
+47:58.000 --> 48:00.000
+You're not going to win the prize.
+
+48:03.000 --> 48:06.000
+No, obviously I don't know if he got that phone call.
+
+48:06.000 --> 48:12.000
+But what I'm suggesting to you is there's a reason why he's doing it.
+
+48:12.000 --> 48:14.000
+It's not because he knows better.
+
+48:14.000 --> 48:16.000
+It's not because he really believes in it.
+
+48:16.000 --> 48:21.000
+It is because he's part of the governance structure.
+
+48:21.000 --> 48:24.000
+It is governing our world right now.
+
+48:24.000 --> 48:26.000
+He's part of the machine.
+
+48:26.000 --> 48:28.000
+It's like a little cog in the wheel.
+
+48:28.000 --> 48:33.000
+And that's why he got the Nobel Prize because that cog in the wheel is necessary.
+
+48:33.000 --> 48:38.000
+A guy that will actually accept the Nobel Prize.
+
+48:38.000 --> 48:46.000
+And a lady that will actually accept the Nobel Prize with him for such a minuscule,
+
+48:46.000 --> 48:50.000
+ridiculously tiny idea that they know isn't theirs alone.
+
+48:50.000 --> 48:58.000
+It would be like giving me a Grammy.
+
+48:58.000 --> 49:03.000
+You know, it's like, okay, but I didn't really earn it.
+
+49:03.000 --> 49:07.000
+I've got some good papers on my CV.
+
+49:07.000 --> 49:10.000
+I mean, you know, you could, oh, whatever.
+
+49:10.000 --> 49:14.000
+But I mean, this is not, again, it's not revolutionary.
+
+49:14.000 --> 49:17.000
+As Robert Malone himself says, you can say it.
+
+49:18.000 --> 49:21.000
+They've been talking and thinking, trying this for decades.
+
+49:21.000 --> 49:31.000
+And it's not this that made it happen.
+
+49:31.000 --> 49:33.000
+But they needed a guy who would be willing to do this.
+
+49:33.000 --> 49:37.000
+Then that same guy is willing to wear a mask if he's told to wear a mask.
+
+49:37.000 --> 49:39.000
+It's not, it's not a, this is real.
+
+49:39.000 --> 49:42.000
+It's for all the marbles.
+
+49:43.000 --> 49:43.800
+You put into an
+
+49:43.800 --> 49:45.000
+sequence Cainie described this.
+
+49:45.000 --> 49:46.000
+You in vitro transcribe it.
+
+49:46.000 --> 49:47.000
+That's a two hour reaction.
+
+49:47.000 --> 49:48.000
+You pure of value away.
+
+49:48.000 --> 49:50.000
+The contaminants.
+
+49:50.000 --> 49:52.000
+You mix them with lipids that forms nanoparticles.
+
+49:52.000 --> 49:54.000
+You get rid of the ethanol and salts.
+
+49:54.000 --> 49:56.000
+And you put it in a bile and you've made a vaccine.
+
+49:56.000 --> 49:59.000
+If you want to change the vaccine, you change the sequence design.
+
+49:59.000 --> 50:01.000
+Everything else is identical.
+
+50:01.000 --> 50:03.000
+For all other vaccines, when you change the vaccine, when you make a new vaccine,
+
+50:03.000 --> 50:04.000
+you start over.
+
+50:04.000 --> 50:07.000
+You figure out how to produce the protein, how to purify it.
+
+50:07.000 --> 50:08.000
+Everything is different.
+
+50:08.000 --> 50:10.000
+Everything is a huge amount of work.
+
+50:10.000 --> 50:16.080
+Listen carefully to that, that absolutely awful, inverted,
+
+50:16.080 --> 50:20.920
+complainer, whiner, vaccine, suck, narrative.
+
+50:20.920 --> 50:25.560
+Listen to it, come, we got to play it back because it's just extraordinary.
+
+50:25.560 --> 50:27.920
+Private, that's a two-hour reaction.
+
+50:27.920 --> 50:30.160
+You puree value away the contaminants,
+
+50:30.160 --> 50:32.840
+you mix them with lipids that forms nanoparticles,
+
+50:32.840 --> 50:36.400
+you get rid of the ethanol and salts and you put it in a vial and you've made a vaccine.
+
+50:36.400 --> 50:38.040
+If you want to change the vaccine,
+
+50:38.040 --> 50:40.840
+you change the sequence design, everything else is identical.
+
+50:40.840 --> 50:44.760
+For all other vaccines, when you change the vaccine, when you make a new vaccine, you start over.
+
+50:44.760 --> 50:47.800
+You figure out how to produce the protein, how to purify it, everything is different,
+
+50:47.800 --> 50:49.240
+everything is a huge amount of work.
+
+50:49.240 --> 50:52.120
+No, everything is different, everything is a huge amount of work.
+
+50:52.120 --> 50:57.880
+I could throw my monitor against the wall right now that's, oh, angry, that makes me.
+
+50:59.720 --> 51:01.320
+That's how disrespectful it is.
+
+51:02.760 --> 51:05.800
+That's how lacking of respect for the sacred that is.
+
+51:06.680 --> 51:12.040
+What he's saying is, is that if we don't have to figure out a way to make a pure protein
+
+51:13.080 --> 51:16.200
+in order to add it to an adjuvant and make a vaccine,
+
+51:16.200 --> 51:19.240
+if we don't have to figure out how to make a pure protein,
+
+51:19.240 --> 51:24.120
+because that's always a pain in the ass, but we can let your body do it.
+
+51:26.680 --> 51:33.880
+Well, that's a lot easier, but it's not a lot safer and he's equating the two.
+
+51:34.680 --> 51:41.560
+He's equating the fact that the process of making different RNAs is the same,
+
+51:42.520 --> 51:47.320
+but the different processes of making different proteins is not the same,
+
+51:49.000 --> 51:51.640
+because different proteins purify in different ways.
+
+51:51.640 --> 51:57.320
+Different proteins have different levels of purity and production, blah, blah, blah, blah.
+
+51:57.560 --> 52:04.280
+And none of those variables change when you transfect somebody with an RNA,
+
+52:05.320 --> 52:09.240
+but those variables are now under the control of the thing that you're transfecting,
+
+52:09.240 --> 52:14.120
+and therefore, what? You're the vaccine factory.
+
+52:15.080 --> 52:19.480
+So what if you're a vaccine factory also doesn't make the protein very consistently,
+
+52:19.480 --> 52:26.360
+makes random errors, folds it incorrectly, etc. Like the moth cell would have done.
+
+52:28.200 --> 52:30.920
+Like the recombinant bacteria would have done.
+
+52:33.560 --> 52:38.520
+Like the whatever host you're growing the protein in for your recombinant.
+
+52:43.160 --> 52:46.040
+I'm not able to be very clear because he's so frustrating,
+
+52:47.720 --> 52:53.000
+but it's an extraordinary dumb, simple version of biology that says,
+
+52:53.080 --> 52:57.080
+okay, look, it's very easy to put mRNA in vials.
+
+52:58.360 --> 53:02.360
+It's very easy apparently to put mRNA in lipid nanoparticles in vials.
+
+53:04.440 --> 53:09.640
+And since that's really easy in mRNA and lipids are all in your body, this is very safe.
+
+53:11.720 --> 53:13.320
+And transfection is fine.
+
+53:15.160 --> 53:20.040
+And the only real problem with other vaccines is that you've got to purify a new protein
+
+53:20.040 --> 53:22.520
+or a new proteins. And man, is that a pain?
+
+53:25.000 --> 53:27.480
+Drew Weissman has no concern
+
+53:30.120 --> 53:32.120
+over the health of the vaccinee.
+
+53:33.080 --> 53:35.960
+No concern over the safety of the vaccinee.
+
+53:36.840 --> 53:41.720
+He has only concern over the production of the product.
+
+53:42.520 --> 53:44.920
+The process is the product said,
+
+53:45.720 --> 53:49.480
+Joe Josh Getsko the other night with John Campbell.
+
+53:51.160 --> 53:54.520
+The process of making an mRNA is stupid easy.
+
+53:57.160 --> 54:01.960
+And therefore it's so much better than making a protein from scratch
+
+54:01.960 --> 54:03.800
+and having to purify it and test it.
+
+54:03.800 --> 54:05.720
+And oh my gosh, what a nightmare.
+
+54:08.360 --> 54:10.360
+This is the ultimate lie.
+
+54:10.920 --> 54:12.920
+Because it's the ultimate lie.
+
+54:12.920 --> 54:16.120
+It is just so deceptive and so awful.
+
+54:17.320 --> 54:21.320
+And my only thoughts are that he is actually dense enough to believe it,
+
+54:21.320 --> 54:23.240
+that he really doesn't get it.
+
+54:24.200 --> 54:28.680
+That his lack of depth of understanding of biology is so great
+
+54:28.680 --> 54:32.520
+that he believes this exact stuff.
+
+54:35.560 --> 54:37.640
+And people have told him he's so smart,
+
+54:38.120 --> 54:41.400
+and people have told him he's so smart so often that he thinks,
+
+54:41.400 --> 54:44.280
+wow, this is pretty easy, this biology stuff's really easy.
+
+54:45.160 --> 54:46.840
+I mean, it's just cartoons and stuff.
+
+54:47.560 --> 54:50.920
+So when we started looking at vaccines, we looked at influenza.
+
+54:50.920 --> 54:53.240
+This is just the review of the current literature
+
+54:53.240 --> 54:55.800
+when we were first investigating influenza vaccines.
+
+54:55.800 --> 54:58.200
+The first two are similar to the human vaccines,
+
+54:58.200 --> 55:02.440
+the live virus we give to kids, the inactivated virus that we give to adults.
+
+55:02.440 --> 55:05.720
+And what's in parentheses are the viral titers you see in mice
+
+55:05.800 --> 55:07.320
+after two immunizations.
+
+55:07.320 --> 55:09.320
+This is, it's called an HAI titer.
+
+55:09.320 --> 55:11.320
+It's a pseudo neutralization titer.
+
+55:11.320 --> 55:12.760
+But you can see with all of these,
+
+55:12.760 --> 55:14.760
+titers in the one to 100 range are typical.
+
+55:15.320 --> 55:18.040
+One to 40 is protective, so this is considered a good titer.
+
+55:18.040 --> 55:20.040
+So do you understand what titer means now?
+
+55:21.080 --> 55:24.280
+Thanks to this brilliant teacher's explanation.
+
+55:24.280 --> 55:25.400
+Do you understand what it means?
+
+55:25.400 --> 55:26.360
+Because I sure don't.
+
+55:27.240 --> 55:29.640
+When we looked at HA encoding mRNA,
+
+55:29.640 --> 55:32.920
+and we're now comparing it to a live virus or an activated virus,
+
+55:32.920 --> 55:35.480
+the titer from mRNA was one to 2,500.
+
+55:35.800 --> 55:38.280
+That's 50 times better than an activated virus.
+
+55:38.280 --> 55:39.400
+50 times better?
+
+55:39.400 --> 55:40.040
+Is it really?
+
+55:41.800 --> 55:42.520
+Is it really?
+
+55:43.960 --> 55:46.680
+So like if I'm lighting my barbecue,
+
+55:46.680 --> 55:50.200
+and I want to put some lighter fluid on it to get the brickheads going,
+
+55:50.760 --> 55:53.720
+if I put some on and it burns for a little while,
+
+55:53.720 --> 55:55.320
+then it smokes for a little while,
+
+55:55.320 --> 55:56.120
+and then it's lit.
+
+55:56.920 --> 56:00.040
+If I put more on there and it's 50 times brighter,
+
+56:00.040 --> 56:02.600
+that is that guaranteed to be good?
+
+56:02.920 --> 56:09.000
+Or is it possible that putting 50 times the amount of lighter fluid on there
+
+56:09.000 --> 56:12.360
+will waste my charcoal and my lighter fluid and my deck?
+
+56:15.320 --> 56:21.400
+Is it possible that he is so naive as to think that activating the immune system
+
+56:21.400 --> 56:26.920
+is good and therefore overactivating the immune system by 100 times is even better?
+
+56:29.320 --> 56:31.880
+Is it possible that these people are so dumb?
+
+56:33.560 --> 56:36.520
+That they think that that's the way the biology works,
+
+56:36.520 --> 56:41.720
+that if we have a signal that we see in a naturally immune person,
+
+56:42.600 --> 56:45.880
+and we can make that signal stronger in a vaccinated person,
+
+56:45.880 --> 56:50.280
+that that obviously means that the vaccinated person is better off?
+
+56:52.440 --> 56:54.440
+Is there anything stupider than you?
+
+56:55.000 --> 57:02.280
+Is it possible that a graph so simple could be so stupid and presented so stupidly?
+
+57:03.000 --> 57:09.240
+Without any justification for the idea that these high titers are an indication
+
+57:09.240 --> 57:10.760
+of greater health outcomes.
+
+57:11.320 --> 57:12.520
+Are you joking?
+
+57:14.760 --> 57:16.040
+He's getting an award.
+
+57:16.040 --> 57:17.480
+He's accepting an award.
+
+57:18.360 --> 57:19.400
+He's a laureate.
+
+57:26.040 --> 57:28.040
+Five times better than live virus.
+
+57:28.040 --> 57:30.920
+This excited a lot of biotech and pharmaceutical companies,
+
+57:30.920 --> 57:34.840
+because typically in this excited a lot of biotech and pharmaceutical companies,
+
+57:34.840 --> 57:40.920
+not immunologists, not pediatricians.
+
+57:43.560 --> 57:44.520
+Vaccine research.
+
+57:44.520 --> 57:47.560
+If you can double a tighter with a new vaccine, people are excited.
+
+57:48.280 --> 57:52.600
+But as an immunologist, we wanted to understand why this vaccine was working so well.
+
+57:52.600 --> 57:55.240
+So this is a cartoon of how a B cell response develops,
+
+57:56.200 --> 57:59.160
+except there's no antigen presentation here at all.
+
+58:01.400 --> 58:03.560
+So we don't know why the T cell is talking.
+
+58:05.960 --> 58:07.880
+We don't know why the T cell woke up.
+
+58:12.680 --> 58:15.640
+But of course, there wouldn't be any matching peptide.
+
+58:15.640 --> 58:20.760
+No, this T cell wouldn't exist if an antigen presenting cell hadn't presented an antigen
+
+58:20.760 --> 58:25.960
+that this B cell recognized or an antigen that was conjuncted to it.
+
+58:25.960 --> 58:34.200
+And that means if there's T cells here as CD4 helper cells,
+
+58:34.200 --> 58:36.840
+then there are CD8 positive cells that are also activated,
+
+58:36.840 --> 58:39.720
+which is just not in this picture.
+
+58:41.880 --> 58:46.440
+So Drew Weisman, the immunologist, is teaching immunology based on antibodies.
+
+58:47.960 --> 58:49.240
+T cells is what they do.
+
+58:49.240 --> 58:50.360
+They make antibodies.
+
+58:51.320 --> 58:56.120
+B cells, they just activate B cells, so B cells can make antibodies.
+
+58:56.120 --> 58:57.640
+That's how the immune system works.
+
+58:57.640 --> 58:58.760
+This man is a liar.
+
+59:01.000 --> 59:03.720
+Molecular B cells interact with particles, viruses,
+
+59:03.720 --> 59:05.080
+antigens, adjuvants.
+
+59:05.080 --> 59:09.480
+They get help from CD4 positive T cells and form germinal center B cells.
+
+59:09.480 --> 59:12.920
+The germinal center is the site where the B cells rapidly proliferate,
+
+59:12.920 --> 59:15.960
+affinity, mature, and form plasma cells and memory cells.
+
+59:16.520 --> 59:18.680
+So we measured all of these populations.
+
+59:18.760 --> 59:22.200
+These were measuring the number of antigen-specific B cells of each type.
+
+59:22.200 --> 59:24.920
+We have a fluorescentated HA in the flow cocktail,
+
+59:24.920 --> 59:28.440
+and then other antibodies that identify each of these three populations.
+
+59:28.440 --> 59:30.120
+What you can see is that in all of them,
+
+59:30.120 --> 59:33.800
+we have about a 50-fold increase in the number of antigen-specific B cells.
+
+59:34.520 --> 59:36.680
+That accounts for the increase in antibody titer.
+
+59:36.680 --> 59:40.440
+We left some mice for over a year and went back and we measured the long-lived plasma cells
+
+59:40.440 --> 59:41.480
+in their bone marrow.
+
+59:41.480 --> 59:45.640
+Again, we saw huge numbers of these cells still present after a single immunization.
+
+59:46.440 --> 59:48.120
+But that didn't explain the mechanism,
+
+59:48.120 --> 59:52.200
+and we wanted to understand why we were getting these huge antigen-specific B cell responses.
+
+59:52.920 --> 59:55.880
+It came down to what are known as T follicular helper cells.
+
+59:55.880 --> 59:59.320
+These are a form of CD4 helpers that form germinal centers,
+
+59:59.320 --> 01:00:02.120
+and they supply the help to the germinal center B cells
+
+01:00:02.120 --> 01:00:05.560
+in order for them to affinity, mature, proliferate, and make memory in plasma cells.
+
+01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.640
+We used a macaque model system, and in these macaques,
+
+01:00:09.640 --> 01:00:13.240
+we gave them either an mRNA that encoded the HIV envelope,
+
+01:00:13.240 --> 01:00:17.960
+or we gave them that same envelope protein with a double-stranded RNA adjuvant.
+
+01:00:17.960 --> 01:00:22.120
+We chose that because that was one of the best-described adjuvants for inducing TSH cells.
+
+01:00:23.080 --> 01:00:25.800
+A double-stranded RNA adjuvant.
+
+01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:33.480
+Did you ever hear anything about a double-stranded RNA adjuvant being involved in this vaccine?
+
+01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:37.880
+That's weird.
+
+01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:41.720
+Could that be a proprietary thing that they don't mention anymore?
+
+01:00:41.720 --> 01:00:44.600
+Because it's proprietary that it's a double-stranded vaccine?
+
+01:00:45.640 --> 01:00:47.080
+RNA, is that possible even?
+
+01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:51.800
+That's weird. He did say that, right?
+
+01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:53.960
+Below.
+
+01:00:53.960 --> 01:00:58.680
+Or we gave them that same envelope protein with a double-stranded RNA adjuvant.
+
+01:00:58.680 --> 01:01:02.760
+We chose that because that was one of the best-described adjuvants for inducing TSH cells.
+
+01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:10.040
+Okay, so the middle one is the protein with a double-stranded RNA
+
+01:01:10.040 --> 01:01:11.560
+as the adjuvant, I see.
+
+01:01:11.560 --> 01:01:16.840
+And so then the envelope RNA, LNP, is transfection.
+
+01:01:16.840 --> 01:01:17.320
+Okay.
+
+01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:18.440
+FH cells.
+
+01:01:18.440 --> 01:01:23.080
+But as you can see, there's no comparison to the effect of the mRNA LNPs
+
+01:01:23.080 --> 01:01:25.240
+and the double-stranded RNA adjuvant.
+
+01:01:25.240 --> 01:01:28.760
+Huge numbers of TFHs were induced by the mRNA LNPs.
+
+01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:30.200
+We did a calculation.
+
+01:01:30.200 --> 01:01:33.560
+Typically for most vaccine adjuvants, double-stranded RNA,
+
+01:01:33.560 --> 01:01:39.000
+ALM, MF59, 5 to 10% of the CD4 helpers are TFH phenotype.
+
+01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.320
+Now keep in mind, he keeps selling the same thing.
+
+01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:44.360
+These immune markers, these activation assays,
+
+01:01:45.640 --> 01:01:49.720
+having a tenfold increase in these assay outcomes
+
+01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:55.080
+is a being assumed to be a more robust immune response.
+
+01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:59.480
+Rather than being, for example, an immune response
+
+01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:03.800
+that's overreactive, an immune response that's overstimulating,
+
+01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:06.520
+an immune response that's overpriming,
+
+01:02:07.080 --> 01:02:12.280
+or an immune response that's sort of weakening other immune responses
+
+01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:20.120
+by somehow occupying this space with so much of this one antigen or antigens.
+
+01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:22.440
+We don't know.
+
+01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:23.880
+He doesn't know for sure.
+
+01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:26.280
+I mean, you can hear from when he's not thought about it.
+
+01:02:27.240 --> 01:02:28.920
+And that's what's extraordinary here.
+
+01:02:32.040 --> 01:02:34.040
+For mRNA LNPs, it's over 50%.
+
+01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:38.120
+So this is an adjuvant that selectively induces TFH cells
+
+01:02:38.120 --> 01:02:39.960
+that drives B cell responses.
+
+01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:42.440
+That's what accounts for the huge antibody responses.
+
+01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:44.600
+You wanted to test these in an animal system.
+
+01:02:44.600 --> 01:02:47.480
+So in influenza, every year you have to make a new vaccine
+
+01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:50.040
+because the head of the virus, the HA, mutates,
+
+01:02:50.040 --> 01:02:51.480
+and prior vaccines don't work.
+
+01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:55.960
+We challenge the animals with a different subtype of HA.
+
+01:02:55.960 --> 01:02:57.080
+This is from an H5.
+
+01:02:57.080 --> 01:02:59.560
+See, that's not really a very good explanation either.
+
+01:02:59.560 --> 01:03:00.760
+The HA is changing.
+
+01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:02.840
+It's also being recombined.
+
+01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:06.120
+It's immunomethology.
+
+01:03:06.120 --> 01:03:07.880
+This guy's not teaching anything.
+
+01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:09.720
+He's bragging about his new product,
+
+01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:12.520
+and how much pharmaceutical companies love it.
+
+01:03:13.080 --> 01:03:16.600
+I had avian virus that occasionally causes pandemics.
+
+01:03:16.600 --> 01:03:19.880
+We saw complete protection with an H1 vaccine
+
+01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:21.240
+against an H5 virus.
+
+01:03:21.640 --> 01:03:23.320
+This is now going forward into humans
+
+01:03:23.320 --> 01:03:25.080
+as a universal influenza vaccine.
+
+01:03:26.600 --> 01:03:28.360
+I want to switch topics and now talk about
+
+01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:30.040
+the future of RNA therapeutics.
+
+01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:31.960
+If you've worked in this field,
+
+01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:34.440
+you know that the critical difficulty is targeting,
+
+01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:36.600
+is getting the nucleic acid or the virus
+
+01:03:36.600 --> 01:03:37.960
+to the cells of interest.
+
+01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:39.880
+With LNPs, they go to the liver.
+
+01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:42.360
+They bind APOE and they target hepatocytes.
+
+01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:43.640
+They also go to dendritic cells,
+
+01:03:43.640 --> 01:03:44.760
+which makes them a good vaccine.
+
+01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:48.600
+We wanted to know, could we target LNPs to other cell types?
+
+01:03:48.600 --> 01:03:50.840
+We concentrated on endothelial cells,
+
+01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:52.680
+T cells, and bone marrow stem cells.
+
+01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:55.320
+The platform that we used
+
+01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:58.440
+was to simply change the surface of the lipid nanoparticle.
+
+01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:00.920
+We attached antibodies, pieces of antibodies,
+
+01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:02.920
+receptor ligands, other proteins,
+
+01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:04.840
+to the surface of the lipid nanoparticle,
+
+01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:06.920
+using different types of conjugation chemistry.
+
+01:04:07.560 --> 01:04:09.400
+When we did that, we saw that we didn't change
+
+01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:11.080
+the morphology of the LNPs.
+
+01:04:11.080 --> 01:04:12.040
+They got a little bit bigger,
+
+01:04:12.040 --> 01:04:14.120
+which is the addition of an antibody coating,
+
+01:04:14.120 --> 01:04:16.040
+but they retained their surface charge.
+
+01:04:16.040 --> 01:04:18.280
+And most importantly, they retained function.
+
+01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:20.280
+So you can see and see, these are UVACs,
+
+01:04:20.280 --> 01:04:22.280
+primary human vascular endothelial cells.
+
+01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:24.120
+In the absence of targeting,
+
+01:04:24.120 --> 01:04:26.360
+you get no delivery of LNPs or mRNA.
+
+01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:29.800
+With targeting, we're using a PCAM antibody to target,
+
+01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:31.720
+and PCAM is expressed by UVACs.
+
+01:04:31.720 --> 01:04:34.840
+We see high levels of uptake and translation of the mRNA.
+
+01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:36.520
+So we could selectively target
+
+01:04:36.520 --> 01:04:38.680
+human endothelial cells in culture
+
+01:04:38.680 --> 01:04:40.600
+by targeting them with a PCAM antibody.
+
+01:04:41.560 --> 01:04:43.800
+We injected these LNPs into mice,
+
+01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:45.720
+and what you can see are really two things.
+
+01:04:45.720 --> 01:04:47.640
+The first is that, when we added an antibody
+
+01:04:47.640 --> 01:04:49.320
+to the surface of the LNP,
+
+01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:50.840
+we reduced liver uptake.
+
+01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:53.080
+We showed that we're actually blocking APOE binding.
+
+01:04:53.720 --> 01:04:56.520
+Most importantly, we're now seeing lung uptake,
+
+01:04:56.520 --> 01:04:59.960
+and about 50% of the delivered LNPs are going to the lungs.
+
+01:04:59.960 --> 01:05:03.000
+Lungs have the highest level of PCAM on endothelial cells.
+
+01:05:04.600 --> 01:05:06.280
+We wanted to see what else could we use this for?
+
+01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:11.000
+So in the cerebrovascular elements of science.
+
+01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:12.600
+You know, how many of these variables
+
+01:05:12.600 --> 01:05:14.120
+were changed in different batches
+
+01:05:14.120 --> 01:05:15.000
+in order to test them?
+
+01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:15.560
+We don't know.
+
+01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:18.680
+But they could have been changing these kinds of things
+
+01:05:18.680 --> 01:05:21.560
+in order to see if they could get more effectiveness
+
+01:05:23.080 --> 01:05:25.240
+and test a whole bunch of proprietary things
+
+01:05:25.240 --> 01:05:27.000
+in a way that they could never do otherwise.
+
+01:05:28.120 --> 01:05:30.200
+One of the things that I thought was very interesting
+
+01:05:30.200 --> 01:05:34.120
+in that thread that Mark read last night
+
+01:05:34.120 --> 01:05:35.640
+was in the very beginning of the thread,
+
+01:05:35.640 --> 01:05:37.400
+where it made it very clear that at the beginning
+
+01:05:37.400 --> 01:05:40.520
+of the pandemic, one of the things that activating
+
+01:05:40.600 --> 01:05:46.360
+the prep emergency does is it suspended a lot of regularly
+
+01:05:47.560 --> 01:05:52.360
+unsuspendable HIPAA laws so that the data around the pandemic
+
+01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:54.520
+and the data of people involved in the pandemic
+
+01:05:54.520 --> 01:05:57.080
+wasn't constrained in the way that it usually is.
+
+01:05:58.520 --> 01:06:01.000
+And those restrictions might still be open now.
+
+01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:05.560
+There's lots of games being played, ladies and gentlemen,
+
+01:06:05.560 --> 01:06:06.760
+lots of games being played,
+
+01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:08.280
+and this guy's part of the game show.
+
+01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:10.440
+Like he has agreed to play this role.
+
+01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:11.320
+He's happy to do it.
+
+01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:13.000
+He's getting comfort and fame for it.
+
+01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:14.360
+He's got a Nobel Prize for it.
+
+01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:16.920
+All he's got to do is accept the Nobel Prize for nothing.
+
+01:06:18.120 --> 01:06:20.120
+Accept the Nobel Prize for doing nothing.
+
+01:06:20.120 --> 01:06:22.120
+Think of Obama as really a cool guy.
+
+01:06:22.920 --> 01:06:25.320
+He would have given the Nobel Prize to somebody else
+
+01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:26.440
+when it was awarded to him.
+
+01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:31.640
+He'd have called up one of the other people on the list
+
+01:06:31.640 --> 01:06:33.560
+and said, hey, I think you really deserve it.
+
+01:06:33.560 --> 01:06:35.640
+So I want you to fly to Stockholm with me.
+
+01:06:36.520 --> 01:06:38.920
+And when I get it, I'm going to give it to you
+
+01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:42.920
+because I can go back home and win another presidential election
+
+01:06:42.920 --> 01:06:44.440
+with that play as well.
+
+01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:45.640
+And I don't need a million bucks.
+
+01:06:45.640 --> 01:06:46.680
+You need a million bucks.
+
+01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:50.680
+But Obama didn't do that because that wasn't his job.
+
+01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:53.160
+Because for whatever reason,
+
+01:06:53.160 --> 01:06:55.000
+they thought they could manipulate us better
+
+01:06:55.000 --> 01:06:57.000
+if they got us to do that, if they did that.
+
+01:06:57.640 --> 01:07:00.200
+Just like now they think that they can manipulate us better
+
+01:07:00.200 --> 01:07:01.880
+if they give the Nobel Prize to this thing.
+
+01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:03.400
+Maybe it's because in the courts,
+
+01:07:04.040 --> 01:07:06.920
+in a few years, Pfizer and these companies
+
+01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:08.280
+will use it as a defense.
+
+01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:11.640
+Well, I mean, we must not have done anything that bad
+
+01:07:11.640 --> 01:07:13.720
+because it got to Nobel Prize for what we did.
+
+01:07:17.160 --> 01:07:18.520
+That was one of our scientists.
+
+01:07:18.520 --> 01:07:19.400
+She works for us.
+
+01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:25.720
+The magic spell is very deep.
+
+01:07:25.720 --> 01:07:28.120
+Ladies and gentlemen, it's going to take a while to break out.
+
+01:07:28.120 --> 01:07:29.400
+Strokes are a common occurrence.
+
+01:07:30.200 --> 01:07:31.880
+Typically when a patient has a stroke
+
+01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:34.280
+and needs to make a CAT scan 24 hours later,
+
+01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:37.960
+you see a small area of dead brain
+
+01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:39.960
+that's fed by that middle cerebral artery
+
+01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:41.160
+that had the stroke.
+
+01:07:41.160 --> 01:07:43.160
+But that's not the main problem of stroke.
+
+01:07:43.160 --> 01:07:45.080
+What happens in the following days
+
+01:07:45.080 --> 01:07:48.120
+is the stroke extends and gets much larger.
+
+01:07:48.120 --> 01:07:49.800
+And that's because that initial stroke
+
+01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:51.880
+leads to edema inflammation
+
+01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:53.880
+and extension of the area of brain death.
+
+01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:57.640
+So we developed a system where we could inject
+
+01:07:57.640 --> 01:08:00.280
+TNF alpha pro-inflammatory cytokine
+
+01:08:00.360 --> 01:08:02.120
+into one hemisphere of a mouse brain.
+
+01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:06.280
+And then we treated those TNF inflamed brains
+
+01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:08.680
+with a nanoparticle that targeted the brain,
+
+01:08:08.680 --> 01:08:11.880
+targeted the blood brain barrier using VCAM targeting.
+
+01:08:11.880 --> 01:08:15.240
+We delivered an mRNA that encoded thrombo-modulin,
+
+01:08:15.240 --> 01:08:18.200
+which is an anti-clauding anti-inflammatory protein.
+
+01:08:18.200 --> 01:08:19.880
+And what you can see on the left is that
+
+01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:22.920
+when we treated animals with a VCAM targeted LNP
+
+01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:24.280
+with thrombo-modulin,
+
+01:08:24.280 --> 01:08:26.440
+we got rid of all of the vascular leakage.
+
+01:08:27.080 --> 01:08:29.560
+So that in theory would get rid of that extension
+
+01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:32.280
+of the infarct to greater portions of the brain
+
+01:08:32.280 --> 01:08:33.480
+as a potential therapeutic.
+
+01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:37.640
+My lab has had an interest in HIV for a long time.
+
+01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:39.640
+So we wanted to see, could we target T cells?
+
+01:08:40.280 --> 01:08:41.160
+We did the same thing.
+
+01:08:41.160 --> 01:08:42.520
+We added antibodies to the surface
+
+01:08:42.520 --> 01:08:44.680
+and we could successfully target primary CD4
+
+01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:45.560
+positive T cells.
+
+01:08:46.120 --> 01:08:48.920
+But most importantly, if you've ever worked with T cells,
+
+01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:51.080
+they don't have endocytic activity.
+
+01:08:51.080 --> 01:08:54.120
+That means they can't endocytose free particles.
+
+01:08:54.120 --> 01:08:56.360
+You can't deliver nucleic acids with lipids
+
+01:08:56.360 --> 01:08:59.000
+polycadions or other particle delivery systems.
+
+01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:00.840
+The only way you can do it was electroporation.
+
+01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:03.000
+Our hypothesis was,
+
+01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.200
+if we had an antibody that bound an antigen on T cells
+
+01:09:06.200 --> 01:09:08.440
+that was endocytosed after binding,
+
+01:09:08.440 --> 01:09:10.920
+that would bring the lipid nanoparticle into the T cell.
+
+01:09:10.920 --> 01:09:12.360
+And that's what we're seeing here.
+
+01:09:12.360 --> 01:09:15.240
+Purified human T cells targeted with embolizumab,
+
+01:09:15.240 --> 01:09:17.880
+which is a clinically used anti-CD4 antibody,
+
+01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:19.800
+gives high levels of luciferase activity.
+
+01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:22.120
+Oh, so T cells are taking up the LNP.
+
+01:09:22.120 --> 01:09:24.600
+So if we have monoclonal antibodies,
+
+01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:27.480
+though, then we can target lipids to different places.
+
+01:09:27.480 --> 01:09:28.360
+That's interesting.
+
+01:09:29.560 --> 01:09:31.080
+So monoclonal antibodies
+
+01:09:31.080 --> 01:09:33.800
+are probably going to be combined with lipid nanoparticles
+
+01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:35.960
+to get the transfection to go to the targets
+
+01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:37.080
+that it's supposed to go to.
+
+01:09:37.080 --> 01:09:37.640
+That's cute.
+
+01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:39.160
+Interesting.
+
+01:09:40.200 --> 01:09:41.720
+I don't think it's going to be foolproof.
+
+01:09:42.200 --> 01:09:44.120
+I don't think it'll be 100% targeting,
+
+01:09:44.120 --> 01:09:46.760
+but it might weight that to a particular place.
+
+01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:49.560
+And for the T cells, it might work.
+
+01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:51.640
+For things like tumors, it might work.
+
+01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:53.400
+Interesting.
+
+01:09:54.280 --> 01:09:59.320
+So antibodies are harder to patent now,
+
+01:10:00.520 --> 01:10:02.680
+which means that you don't need to worry about
+
+01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:04.840
+infringing on other companies' patents
+
+01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:06.760
+in order to make monoclonal antibodies
+
+01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:08.360
+to coach your lipid nanoparticles.
+
+01:10:08.360 --> 01:10:09.800
+But you're going to have to have the patents
+
+01:10:09.800 --> 01:10:11.000
+on the lipid nanoparticles.
+
+01:10:11.800 --> 01:10:14.280
+You're going to have to, well, that's interesting stuff,
+
+01:10:14.280 --> 01:10:14.600
+isn't it?
+
+01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:18.920
+Monoclonal antibodies, not monoclonal antibodies anymore.
+
+01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:20.360
+Can't make big money off of them.
+
+01:10:21.320 --> 01:10:22.680
+Just in time for them to be
+
+01:10:23.480 --> 01:10:27.160
+used to coat lipid nanoparticles for different purposes,
+
+01:10:27.160 --> 01:10:29.560
+you know, like embolismab.
+
+01:10:31.880 --> 01:10:36.120
+MAB, everything that ends in MAB is monoclonal antibody.
+
+01:10:37.640 --> 01:10:38.840
+Yes, ladies and gentlemen,
+
+01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:40.680
+I think the walls are visible.
+
+01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:42.680
+I think I see the back of the theater.
+
+01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:45.320
+I think I see the back of the theater.
+
+01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:47.720
+It's the RNA is released and it's translated.
+
+01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:51.400
+When we inject these into animals, the spleen likes top.
+
+01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:54.520
+But most importantly, we re-image those animals
+
+01:10:54.520 --> 01:10:56.040
+after we took out all of those organs.
+
+01:10:56.040 --> 01:10:57.960
+Electroporation isn't that big of a deal.
+
+01:10:57.960 --> 01:10:59.400
+Electroporation is really old.
+
+01:10:59.400 --> 01:11:03.480
+So using electroporation in cell lines, that's really old.
+
+01:11:05.240 --> 01:11:06.680
+And that's why Robert Malone
+
+01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:09.880
+making a big deal about his pulsed electric fields.
+
+01:11:10.680 --> 01:11:14.520
+His absolutely, it's just...
+
+01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:19.880
+I mean, he sounds like a clown when he says it.
+
+01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:20.920
+It's just dumb.
+
+01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:24.920
+It's like claiming that you're inventing a light bulb
+
+01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:25.800
+or something like that.
+
+01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:27.080
+Like it's really old tech.
+
+01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:30.920
+So don't be surprised if they use it,
+
+01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:33.720
+but the idea that it's somehow new, it's ridiculous.
+
+01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:36.280
+And what we're seeing now are lymph nodes.
+
+01:11:36.280 --> 01:11:39.480
+These are periordic and inguinal lymph nodes are lighting up.
+
+01:11:39.480 --> 01:11:41.880
+So the LNPs injected intravenously
+
+01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:44.680
+are getting out of the circulation into the tissues,
+
+01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:45.560
+into the lymphatic.
+
+01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:46.600
+And is that what we want?
+
+01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:49.560
+We want lymph nodes and a lot of cells in the lymph node
+
+01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:51.320
+transfected, even though in the lymph node,
+
+01:11:51.320 --> 01:11:52.920
+those are supposed to be an assortment
+
+01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:56.280
+and a bouquet of unique cells waiting to be activated
+
+01:11:56.280 --> 01:11:59.800
+when the right antigen combination is encountered.
+
+01:12:01.160 --> 01:12:03.560
+Do we really want to transfect all those cells?
+
+01:12:05.080 --> 01:12:07.240
+I just don't see any nuance here.
+
+01:12:07.240 --> 01:12:09.080
+I don't even see any understanding
+
+01:12:09.080 --> 01:12:10.680
+of how the immune system works.
+
+01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:14.760
+I see a rudimentary understanding in his mind
+
+01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:16.760
+of how antibodies work
+
+01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:20.120
+and how how luciferase works.
+
+01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:25.000
+But what it means is we've transfected all the cells
+
+01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:25.880
+in that lymph node.
+
+01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:27.400
+And I don't think that that's how
+
+01:12:27.400 --> 01:12:29.080
+you augment the immune system.
+
+01:12:29.080 --> 01:12:29.960
+I really don't.
+
+01:12:31.320 --> 01:12:32.520
+This is just crazy.
+
+01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:39.320
+RNA, which is translated and shows up.
+
+01:12:41.400 --> 01:12:43.240
+We switched to a model system
+
+01:12:43.240 --> 01:12:46.760
+that has a Lox-P reporter gene in it,
+
+01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:48.360
+in this case, a green fluorescent protein.
+
+01:12:49.240 --> 01:12:51.400
+The mRNA that we delivered with the LMPs
+
+01:12:51.400 --> 01:12:53.400
+and coded creorecombinase.
+
+01:12:53.400 --> 01:12:56.680
+So the creorecombinase removes the stop codon
+
+01:12:56.680 --> 01:12:58.120
+and makes targeted cells green.
+
+01:12:59.400 --> 01:13:03.000
+We injected the targeted creorecombinase LMPs into an animal.
+
+01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:03.960
+And without targeting,
+
+01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:06.120
+you get very little green protein.
+
+01:13:06.120 --> 01:13:07.240
+With CD4 targeting,
+
+01:13:07.240 --> 01:13:09.720
+you get high levels of green protein in lymph nodes
+
+01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:10.760
+and the spleen.
+
+01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:11.960
+But what's important to notice here
+
+01:13:12.040 --> 01:13:13.240
+is that on the y-axis,
+
+01:13:13.240 --> 01:13:14.440
+that's an activation marker.
+
+01:13:15.160 --> 01:13:18.520
+So we're seeing equal amounts of delivery of LMPs
+
+01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:21.960
+to resting T cells as we see with activated T cells.
+
+01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:23.720
+That's important because in HIV,
+
+01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:25.880
+the resting CD4 positive T cells
+
+01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:27.800
+are the site of HIV latency.
+
+01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:30.280
+And they have to be targeted in an animal or in a human.
+
+01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:34.200
+We also wondered, could we deliver car T cells?
+
+01:13:38.200 --> 01:13:39.640
+These are all in my mind.
+
+01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:42.440
+Performance level stunt experiments
+
+01:13:42.440 --> 01:13:47.880
+designed to make an in vitro side of the mouth argument
+
+01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:50.360
+that this technology is useful for things.
+
+01:13:51.400 --> 01:13:52.680
+But in that last figure,
+
+01:13:53.480 --> 01:13:55.400
+he points down here to say that,
+
+01:13:55.400 --> 01:13:56.600
+look, these are activated.
+
+01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.040
+And this is resting T cells.
+
+01:14:00.040 --> 01:14:01.400
+And these are activated T cells.
+
+01:14:01.400 --> 01:14:03.080
+And we have to get at the resting T cells.
+
+01:14:03.080 --> 01:14:05.080
+There's some of these, one of these two graphs
+
+01:14:05.080 --> 01:14:06.120
+he's talking about there.
+
+01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:09.240
+But he's getting at both populations, not one.
+
+01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:12.680
+So he's talking about transpecting
+
+01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:16.280
+almost all of the T cells in your body with one antigen.
+
+01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:19.400
+How in the hell would that be useful?
+
+01:14:20.360 --> 01:14:23.480
+How in the hell can you imagine that being a useful
+
+01:14:26.440 --> 01:14:29.800
+product, a useful way of augmenting the immune system?
+
+01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:33.000
+That's not even close to what we want to do.
+
+01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:38.200
+Think about how extraordinary that is.
+
+01:14:38.200 --> 01:14:40.520
+All of these T cells had previously
+
+01:14:42.520 --> 01:14:45.560
+unique T cell receptor specificity,
+
+01:14:45.560 --> 01:14:48.280
+and then they were transfected and activated
+
+01:14:49.960 --> 01:14:54.120
+by an LNP with RNA and an antibody
+
+01:14:54.120 --> 01:14:56.440
+that bound them and got them to be activated.
+
+01:14:56.440 --> 01:14:57.400
+That's crazy.
+
+01:14:58.440 --> 01:15:00.440
+We are not talking about even knowing
+
+01:15:00.440 --> 01:15:02.200
+how we're augmenting the immune system.
+
+01:15:02.200 --> 01:15:03.720
+We're talking about how we get these
+
+01:15:04.360 --> 01:15:07.800
+in vitro assays to turn colors and stuff.
+
+01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:12.040
+Before positive T cells are the site of HIV latency,
+
+01:15:12.040 --> 01:15:14.520
+and they have to be targeted in an animal or in a human.
+
+01:15:16.040 --> 01:15:18.840
+We also wondered, could we deliver CAR T cells?
+
+01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:20.520
+So this is what a CAR T cell is.
+
+01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:25.960
+In CVA positive T cells recognize antigen plus MHC,
+
+01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:29.240
+and when they recognize that peptide MHC,
+
+01:15:29.240 --> 01:15:32.280
+they kill those antigens on a tumor cell
+
+01:15:32.280 --> 01:15:33.560
+or a virally infected cell.
+
+01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:36.040
+An alternative was developed,
+
+01:15:36.040 --> 01:15:37.880
+known as a chimeric antigen receptor.
+
+01:15:38.360 --> 01:15:41.560
+And what happens there is that the CARs recognize
+
+01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:42.760
+a specific antigen.
+
+01:15:43.320 --> 01:15:45.720
+And the first that were developed were CD19.
+
+01:15:46.280 --> 01:15:49.320
+CD19 is expressed by leukemias of lymphomas,
+
+01:15:49.320 --> 01:15:53.320
+and CARs that recognize CD19 delete the tumors.
+
+01:15:53.320 --> 01:15:57.480
+They have clinical efficacy in the 60, 70, 80 percent range.
+
+01:15:57.480 --> 01:16:00.120
+That's a huge advance in cancer chemotherapy
+
+01:16:00.120 --> 01:16:01.560
+using delivery of CAR T cell.
+
+01:16:02.120 --> 01:16:04.280
+The problem is this is what it takes.
+
+01:16:04.280 --> 01:16:06.360
+So what's annoying about that picture is
+
+01:16:06.360 --> 01:16:08.680
+that it really looks like if they're just trying to lie.
+
+01:16:10.120 --> 01:16:12.520
+Because what the tumor cell is doing.
+
+01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:32.600
+What the CAR T cell is doing is
+
+01:16:32.600 --> 01:16:35.160
+recognizing the same MHC1 receptor,
+
+01:16:35.160 --> 01:16:38.520
+and then it's triggering the cell death of the tumor cell.
+
+01:16:40.440 --> 01:16:43.000
+I'm not really sure how that's any different than this
+
+01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:45.560
+with a cytotoxic T cell,
+
+01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:48.520
+and it's monitoring of cancer.
+
+01:16:49.640 --> 01:16:56.360
+It might be that they are able to engineer chimeric T cells,
+
+01:16:56.360 --> 01:17:00.200
+which are more capable of inducing apoptosis.
+
+01:17:00.200 --> 01:17:01.000
+That's possible.
+
+01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:06.600
+But this is not augmentation of your immune system.
+
+01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:07.560
+Do you understand that?
+
+01:17:08.680 --> 01:17:09.800
+Let me repeat that again.
+
+01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:12.520
+This is not augmentation of your immune system.
+
+01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:16.680
+This is using mRNA to create T cells
+
+01:17:16.680 --> 01:17:21.080
+that have a different kind of signaling molecule on the outside
+
+01:17:21.080 --> 01:17:22.200
+via a transfection,
+
+01:17:22.200 --> 01:17:24.600
+and then putting those T cells into somebody
+
+01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:26.040
+and having them kill a tumor.
+
+01:17:27.480 --> 01:17:30.680
+That is no way shape or form augmenting your immune system.
+
+01:17:30.760 --> 01:17:31.800
+Do you understand that?
+
+01:17:34.280 --> 01:17:37.160
+Answer chemotherapy using the delivery of CAR T cell.
+
+01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:41.080
+The problem is this is what it takes to make a CAR T cell.
+
+01:17:41.080 --> 01:17:43.320
+You have to take cells out of a patient,
+
+01:17:43.320 --> 01:17:45.240
+you infect them with a lentivirus,
+
+01:17:45.240 --> 01:17:47.080
+you expand them for a couple weeks,
+
+01:17:47.080 --> 01:17:49.160
+and then you give cells back to the patient.
+
+01:17:49.160 --> 01:17:52.360
+It works great, but it costs a half a million dollars per dose,
+
+01:17:52.360 --> 01:17:53.400
+which is problematic.
+
+01:17:54.360 --> 01:17:59.240
+What we proposed is whether we could make CAR T cells in vivo.
+
+01:18:00.120 --> 01:18:02.760
+So our idea was that if we could target T cells,
+
+01:18:02.760 --> 01:18:05.960
+and in this case, we used a CD5 targeting molecule
+
+01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:08.360
+that targets both CD4s and CD8s,
+
+01:18:08.360 --> 01:18:11.800
+and encode the chimeric antigen receptor in the mRNA.
+
+01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:14.600
+The T cell would take up the LNPs,
+
+01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:16.840
+the RNA would make CARs on the surface,
+
+01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:18.920
+and we chose a CAR that targeted fiberglass.
+
+01:18:20.440 --> 01:18:24.760
+We tested this in vitro, 80% of the T cells made the CAR.
+
+01:18:24.840 --> 01:18:29.080
+In vivo, 25% of the T cells express CARs on their surface,
+
+01:18:29.800 --> 01:18:32.200
+and we use the model of fibrosis.
+
+01:18:32.200 --> 01:18:34.040
+So if you make a mouse hypertensive,
+
+01:18:34.040 --> 01:18:35.720
+they develop cardiac fibrosis.
+
+01:18:36.360 --> 01:18:39.960
+Most cardiac diseases are mediated by the fibrosis
+
+01:18:39.960 --> 01:18:41.880
+that forms after the disease insult.
+
+01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:43.960
+This is an echocardiography,
+
+01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:46.680
+a way of taking pictures of the function of the heart.
+
+01:18:46.680 --> 01:18:48.200
+And we can see on the right,
+
+01:18:48.200 --> 01:18:50.760
+we're measuring diastolic and systolic volumes.
+
+01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:53.240
+When the heart becomes fibros that can't function,
+
+01:18:53.240 --> 01:18:54.360
+and the volumes get bigger.
+
+01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:57.240
+In the bottom right is the ejection fraction.
+
+01:18:57.240 --> 01:19:00.200
+This is the amount of blood that the heart pumps out with each beat.
+
+01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:02.120
+When the heart becomes fibrotic,
+
+01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:06.120
+the amount of blood that's released is reduced,
+
+01:19:06.120 --> 01:19:07.960
+and the ejection fraction is reduced.
+
+01:19:07.960 --> 01:19:11.720
+So gray is a normal animal, yellow is a fibrotic animal,
+
+01:19:12.440 --> 01:19:15.080
+red is those animals treated with one treatment
+
+01:19:15.080 --> 01:19:18.760
+of CD5 targeted LNPs that make fat CARs.
+
+01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:21.480
+And we can see we return their cardiac function to normal.
+
+01:19:22.120 --> 01:19:23.880
+When we stain the hearts of these animals,
+
+01:19:23.880 --> 01:19:25.960
+the normal saline treated on the right,
+
+01:19:25.960 --> 01:19:27.560
+the middle are fibrotic animals.
+
+01:19:27.560 --> 01:19:29.560
+You see high levels of fibrosis.
+
+01:19:29.560 --> 01:19:33.640
+The left is one treatment with fat CAR LNPs targeted the T cells,
+
+01:19:33.640 --> 01:19:35.640
+and we return the fibrosis to nearly normal.
+
+01:19:36.280 --> 01:19:38.840
+So with an off-the-shelf mRNA LNP,
+
+01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:41.960
+we could cure cardiac fibrosis in this animal model.
+
+01:19:42.920 --> 01:19:46.040
+In this animal model, they can cure cardiac fibrosis,
+
+01:19:46.040 --> 01:19:49.400
+but we have no idea whether this animal will go on living a healthy life.
+
+01:19:50.280 --> 01:19:53.560
+But again, I will state clearly,
+
+01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:57.080
+this is not augmenting the mouse's immune system.
+
+01:20:01.480 --> 01:20:07.480
+It was a very complicated treatment of harvested T cells
+
+01:20:07.480 --> 01:20:10.520
+to create a specific army that could do this.
+
+01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:11.000
+That's it.
+
+01:20:12.520 --> 01:20:15.720
+It's a neat trick, very expensive, very meticulous,
+
+01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:19.080
+but it doesn't augment the animal's immune system.
+
+01:20:19.160 --> 01:20:22.120
+It's no different than giving model clonal antibodies, but it's better.
+
+01:20:22.760 --> 01:20:24.280
+Great. I'm glad that it works.
+
+01:20:28.600 --> 01:20:32.440
+But now the mRNA targeting T cells is something completely different.
+
+01:20:32.440 --> 01:20:35.640
+And if this is what he did to get this picture,
+
+01:20:36.760 --> 01:20:40.200
+then he's augmented a lot of T cells that didn't need to do this.
+
+01:20:41.080 --> 01:20:43.080
+And what were those T cells doing before?
+
+01:20:44.440 --> 01:20:46.840
+Because he didn't augment just resting T cells,
+
+01:20:46.840 --> 01:20:50.680
+he also augmented activated and active T cells and memory cells.
+
+01:20:52.120 --> 01:20:53.560
+So what were those T cells doing?
+
+01:20:53.560 --> 01:20:57.080
+And has he changed what they did or can do or are capable of doing?
+
+01:20:58.200 --> 01:21:02.520
+Has he activated them in such a way that their counterparted regulatory T cells
+
+01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:03.640
+will not be activated?
+
+01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:06.440
+And therefore, instead of going back to memory,
+
+01:21:07.320 --> 01:21:09.640
+we'll go into apoptosis after activation.
+
+01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:13.400
+So you get rid of the fibrosis,
+
+01:21:13.400 --> 01:21:18.120
+but you completely destroyed the immune system because all the previous T cell memory was erased.
+
+01:21:18.120 --> 01:21:23.800
+I don't know. He doesn't know because the animals were sacrificed in order to make these figures.
+
+01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:33.960
+Another thing we were interested was targeting stem cells.
+
+01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:38.840
+So bone marrow stem cells are the source of all of our red cells, white cells, granosites
+
+01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:42.120
+that allow our immune systems and our respiratory systems to function.
+
+01:21:44.280 --> 01:21:51.240
+Sickle cell anemia is a disease that has 300,000 people born with it every year.
+
+01:21:51.240 --> 01:21:54.040
+They're mainly in Africa, but you see them across the world.
+
+01:21:54.760 --> 01:21:58.440
+The problem is, is you can't do bone marrow biopsies and viral infections
+
+01:21:58.440 --> 01:22:03.240
+on 300,000 people a year in regions like Africa and India and the Middle East.
+
+01:22:03.240 --> 01:22:05.320
+It cost about a million dollars per treatment,
+
+01:22:06.200 --> 01:22:08.680
+and the facilities to do these things aren't available.
+
+01:22:09.320 --> 01:22:14.760
+So our idea was that if we could find antigens that selectively targeted bone marrow stem cells,
+
+01:22:14.760 --> 01:22:19.080
+it's not me being able to deliver LNPs and target them, and that's what we did here.
+
+01:22:19.080 --> 01:22:24.200
+We saw that with a single treatment, 85 to 95 percent of bone marrow stem cells
+
+01:22:24.200 --> 01:22:29.880
+and progenitor cells were targeted by the LNPs, and we could mediate gene recombination in these cells.
+
+01:22:30.680 --> 01:22:35.160
+Most importantly, what you need to do is call the secondary transplant.
+
+01:22:35.160 --> 01:22:40.360
+So you treat mice once with the LNPs, you wait six months and take their bone marrow
+
+01:22:40.360 --> 01:22:45.400
+and put them into a radiated mice that no longer have bone marrow stem cells,
+
+01:22:45.400 --> 01:22:50.920
+and we found that our targeted LNPs from the previous mice, 100 percent of the red cells,
+
+01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:54.440
+white cells, and granulocytes were gene recombined.
+
+01:22:54.440 --> 01:23:01.320
+So that means with a single injection, and in this case it's 0.1 micrograms of mRNA LNPs,
+
+01:23:01.400 --> 01:23:05.720
+could gene edit 100 percent of the repopulating bone marrow stem cells?
+
+01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:06.280
+Wait, what?
+
+01:23:09.480 --> 01:23:17.240
+How the hell can you edit the stem cells if it's just RNA?
+
+01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:21.560
+I thought they told us in that previous video that it doesn't go into your DNA.
+
+01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:23.880
+It doesn't mess with your DNA at all, like anything.
+
+01:23:26.360 --> 01:23:27.560
+The hell did he just say?
+
+01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:35.960
+The single injection, and in this case it's 0.1 micrograms of mRNA LNPs,
+
+01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:39.720
+could gene edit 100 percent of the repopulating bone marrow stem cells?
+
+01:23:39.720 --> 01:23:41.320
+But these go to the bone marrow.
+
+01:23:42.280 --> 01:23:47.240
+We saw that from the Japanese data that Byron Brittle released.
+
+01:23:48.120 --> 01:23:49.560
+It goes to the bone marrow.
+
+01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:57.240
+Are you telling me, is he telling us that this LNP carrying mRNA is capable of editing our
+
+01:23:57.320 --> 01:24:01.640
+bone marrow cells, our precursor cells to all of our blood?
+
+01:24:04.040 --> 01:24:05.160
+Did he just say that?
+
+01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:06.280
+Cells.
+
+01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:10.360
+So now we can go to Africa, India, the Middle East, the United States,
+
+01:24:10.360 --> 01:24:13.320
+Europe, anywhere there are people with sickle cell anemia.
+
+01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:18.920
+We can give them a single injection of mRNA LNPs that target the bone marrow,
+
+01:24:18.920 --> 01:24:23.400
+and that can correct the sickle cell gene defect and cure their disease.
+
+01:24:23.400 --> 01:24:28.120
+So instead of a million dollars per treatment, now we're looking at a couple hundred dollars,
+
+01:24:28.120 --> 01:24:32.520
+maybe a thousand dollars per treatment, and we can easily cure sickle cell anemia
+
+01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:38.120
+with a single injection intravenously of RNA LNPs by targeting them to this bone marrow stem
+
+01:24:38.120 --> 01:24:43.160
+cells and delivering an enzyme through RNA that fixes the gene defects.
+
+01:24:44.680 --> 01:24:46.360
+You can do a lot of other things.
+
+01:24:46.360 --> 01:24:49.320
+You can deliver toxic genes to stem cells.
+
+01:24:49.320 --> 01:24:54.360
+So now when we do bone marrow transplants, you have to irradiate people or give them
+
+01:24:54.360 --> 01:24:57.800
+high doses of chemotherapy to kill the bone marrow stem cells.
+
+01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:03.080
+The problem is it also kills the gastrointestinal cells and many other necessary cells.
+
+01:25:03.080 --> 01:25:06.200
+That has toxicities and mortality up to about 5%.
+
+01:25:07.160 --> 01:25:09.400
+Now we can deliver an mRNA LNP.
+
+01:25:09.400 --> 01:25:13.240
+We can selectively kill the bone marrow stem cells and easily do transplants.
+
+01:25:13.800 --> 01:25:16.840
+We can also deliver therapeutic proteins that stimulate
+
+01:25:18.120 --> 01:25:24.200
+B cells, granulocytes, platelets, many other cell types that can be easily delivered to the
+
+01:25:24.200 --> 01:25:24.920
+bone marrow.
+
+01:25:26.200 --> 01:25:32.680
+So our conclusion is that mRNA LNP therapeutics has the potential to do many different things.
+
+01:25:32.680 --> 01:25:36.280
+We have vaccines for many different diseases in clinical trials.
+
+01:25:36.280 --> 01:25:40.600
+We're developing ways of doing gene therapy in bone marrow stem cells.
+
+01:25:40.600 --> 01:25:45.640
+We can target heart, we can target brain, we can target lungs that allows us to deliver
+
+01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:49.400
+mRNA LNP therapeutics to many different organisms in the cell type.
+
+01:25:49.400 --> 01:25:51.800
+Come on man, let me see if this is the future of mRNA LNP.
+
+01:25:54.600 --> 01:25:57.400
+I need to thank all of the people in my lab and all of the lab lab.
+
+01:25:57.400 --> 01:25:58.840
+Let it go, let it go.
+
+01:25:58.840 --> 01:26:00.440
+I'm taking this your boo wiggle.
+
+01:26:00.440 --> 01:26:03.400
+I gather for a dollar to be at least 5% of my mRNA.
+
+01:26:03.400 --> 01:26:04.600
+Like this, back to the back.
+
+01:26:04.600 --> 01:26:09.400
+See this colony, including the telceletus therapy, which is a company that computer
+
+01:26:09.800 --> 01:26:10.040
+started.
+
+01:26:13.320 --> 01:26:17.840
+Bellamy LNP and my other lab got installed.
+
+01:26:39.400 --> 01:27:09.400
+No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
+
+01:27:09.400 --> 01:27:39.400
+no, no, no, no, no, no,
+
+01:27:39.400 --> 01:28:09.400
+no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
+
+01:28:09.400 --> 01:28:16.000
+Don't do it. Keep yourself in the control group ladies and gentlemen. Keep
+
+01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:21.280
+yourself in the control group. Keep it in the control group ladies and
+
+01:28:21.280 --> 01:28:30.880
+gentlemen. Check out Broken Science Initiative. Please check it out to Greg
+
+01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:35.400
+and Emily. You guys are doing something really great there.
+
+01:28:39.400 --> 01:28:48.400
+Thanks guys. I'll see you tomorrow. That's 33. 33. You know Russell Brand has a tattoo of 33 on his arm.
+
+01:28:48.400 --> 01:28:52.200
+I just did 33 days at a row. Thanks for joining me.
+
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+What happened to the real mummy?
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+He's doing some of the mummy.
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+Ahhh!
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+Oh, we're here!
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+I found the mummy!
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+Well, gang, I guess that wraps up the mystery and the mummy, too.
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+Oh, we're here!
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+I don't know if you're joking or not.
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+I'm not sure if you're serious.
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+Because that's really what's important.
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+Because what...
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+Tricking people into...
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+We need to start doing that again.
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+Or we won't get the power back from these challenges.
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+That's for sure.
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+I see the bricks in the back of the theater,
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+and I think a lot of us here also.
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+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
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+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
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+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
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+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
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+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
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+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
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+Stop lying!
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+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
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+Good evening ladies and gentlemen.
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+This is Giga Home Biological High Resistance Low Noise Information Brief
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+brought to you by a biologist the 9th of October,
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+9th of October, 2023.
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+Good evening.
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+Welcome to the show.
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+This is Giga Home Biological.
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+It's getting cold back here in the garage.
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+And so occasionally you may hear a heater fire up,
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+which just sounds a little bit more like Starship background noise.
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+But since we're not always going to be on the Starship,
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+it's going to seem a little weird.
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+Don't take the bait on TV and social media.
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+It's getting pretty hard.
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+I'm not going to speculate about anything to do with anything much farther
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+than about 20 miles away from my house unless it has to do with biology.
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+And since it's not much biology going out in the Middle East right now,
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+I think I'm going to keep my mouth shut about that.
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+Suffice it to say that I'm aware that things are getting hairy.
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+I'm aware that we're going to be challenged in the coming months.
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+That's for danger.
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+And it's going to be nice to know that you've got family and friends
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+And if you don't, you know, maybe it's a good time to start thinking about
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+reconnecting with those around you.
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+The outside sounds that are behind me are actually
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+just barely crickets out there.
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+We had a couple of cold nights where they were silent.
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+The Scooby-Doo is still on.
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+And I still believe that a lot of these people have misled us
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+from the very beginning about the worst-case scenario,
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+and it's inevitable possibility in the future.
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+I believe that they were involved in making sure that those windows
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+giant uncertainty, giant doubt,
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+And that is very different than saying that there aren't viruses.
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+It's very different than saying that the PCR test doesn't work
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+We have a very well nuanced understanding of where we think
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+our hypothesis is.
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+So welcome to the show.
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+If you haven't been here before,
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+it's your first time finding us.
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+It's going to be a little hard to jump in on this particular show
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+because we're not going to really cover what we've been talking
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+about with regard to what is perceived to be true and how
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+what is perceived to be true has come to be.
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+But if you are just joining us for the first time,
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+suffice it to say that we've been working on a hypothesis
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+where state actors and non-government organizations
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+have a stake in the idea that the entire globe or the population
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+takes on the mythology that in 2020 somewhere in the world
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+and changing the way that commerce is done,
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+changing the way that we track goods and services,
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+changing the way that we perceive our role,
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+our place within mother nature on this planet.
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+a good guy trying to solve the mystery,
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+a good guy trying to save us from these bad people
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+who are making profit off of this emergency
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+were actually part of an elaborate theater
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+designed to entice all of us,
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+whether we were on the left or the right,
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+whether we were progressive or conservative,
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+to entice all of us into trying to solve this mystery
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+of whether this was a lab leak or a natural virus
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+and whether it was to blame on China or America
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+or a combination of both or did they fund one another
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+and somebody made a mistake or what happened and who's lying about it?
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+that the theater was orchestrated,
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+that the email leaks were orchestrated,
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+that the leaked Slack messages were orchestrated,
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+and even the leaked grant proposals could have been orchestrated.
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+It's even possible that a lot of the papers
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+that are purported to be evidence for this pandemic potential
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+and coronaviruses that exist primarily in three caves in China
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+is actually also largely a potential created by those publications,
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+which in reality are not some kind of, you know,
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+bedrock of proof for the potential for a unique RNA sequence
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+to be able to do something that most all other RNA sequences
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+are nowhere, can even approach doing.
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+But again, it's not what's a matter true,
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+it's a matter of what's perceived to be true,
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+and this illusion of consensus around the biology of RNA
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+and the illusion of consensus around the biology of a pandemic,
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+that yeah, of course there's these viruses.
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+Of course, we can potentially make a virus that could kill more people
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+than a nuclear weapon and could go around the world for three years,
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+could be an incapacitating agent because of its super high infectivity,
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+because we added five amino acids to the final sequence of the protein.
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+when we really think about the idea that a fear and cleavage site,
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+which actually whose functionality only manifests in the protein
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+that it is encoding, could ever increase the fidelity of copying of the RNA.
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+Because one of the reasons why a fear and cleavage site would potentially be so wonderful
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+or stay in the swarm represented quite strongly
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+for many, many, many, many, many subsequent infections,
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+but as we've discussed, the quasi-species swarm doesn't allow for that,
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+and as we have discussed, if this is not a functional part of the spike protein,
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+which would greatly decrease the fitness of the virus progeny,
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+then the presence or absence of the fear and cleavage site won't really matter that much,
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+but the crazy part is, is that it won't change the fidelity of the copy procedure.
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+there's no reason to believe that because of a fear and cleavage site,
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+pandemic potential would emerge.
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+Because what people have confused with pandemic potential is fidelity.
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+In order for what to have happened, according to all of these people who have almost all written books
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+or made some kind of fame or fortune or comfort from the virus,
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+have sold the idea that a particular RNA sequence is able to infect hundreds and hundreds of millions of people,
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+and that it's highly trackable because of this fidelity.
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+And this has never occurred before in the history, in the history,
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+this has never occurred before in the history of RNA viruses.
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+Now, some people will try to tell you the story that, well, we can sequence them so easy now,
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+or we try it so hard now, that's why.
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+But that's insufficient answer for what we understood before the pandemic with regard to variability of RNA replication
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+and the fidelity of the, or lack of fidelity within the quasi-species swarm,
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+or the quasi-species, I'm not sure really which term is correct.
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+But that extreme variability that's present because of the thing that we've discussed a few times in a row now,
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+the original genome is very quickly outweighed and replaced in the copy procedure
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+by incomplete genomes, subgenomic gene RNA, and genomes with errors, genomes with changes.
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+And so the idea that this single genome like Omicron gets copied over and over and over and over and over again,
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+that's not real.
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+Because at the very best case scenario, three changes are made every time there's a copy,
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+and that copy doesn't just immediately get packed into a new virus and popped out.
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+It floats around, and it's part of the growing amount of RNA that is interfering with this original RNA getting copied.
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+And you can find countless papers discussing this phenomenon and how what it leads to,
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+which is including recombination of coronaviruses with one another
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+when the RNA-dependent polymerase drops from template to template when more than one template of a coronavirus is present.
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+Ralph Beric and his co-author Ralph Denison have argued that as many as 35% of all the coronavirus is present
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+in a co-infection, in a cell culture, are recombinant genomes.
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+In some respects, that's mathematically very close to the recombinant, the frequency of recombination that's present in flu,
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+although as you know, flu has a disjointed genome and so recombination is a different mechanism there.
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+John Campbell and Angus Daglesch, I'm going to play it at 1.25, maybe 1.5.
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+It's a really important interview to listen to because they talk a lot about immunology.
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+The immunology is basically what we've been saying with some changes which, of course, could be completely correct.
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+And so most of my plan is not to interrupt, but just to take notes and then maybe make a little summary at the end of what I took notes on,
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+what I saw and what I'm going to look up or try to follow up on.
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+I believe that this guy is a cancer dude, so he may talk about the genes, he may talk about T cells, he may talk about normal cancer
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+and re-emergent cancer, I have no idea, I just know that a lot of people, I mean way more than normal,
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+and then also Pamela sent me this video, so now I really have to watch it, and since I need to really know what I was going to do,
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+this became the very easy choice.
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+You're quite an important one, and I'm so pleased to welcome Professor Angus Dalglish, Professor Welcome, and thank you for coming.
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+Thank you.
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+Now Professor Dalglish is a professor at St George's University London.
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+I'm not going to go through all of his qualifications, but he's a Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians in the UK and Australia.
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+He's a Fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists, he's a Fellow of Medical Sciences as well as having an MD medical research degree.
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+He's really quite impressive, and he's had 563 publications, I don't know how you fit that in one lifetime, but that's what he's had with over 25,000 citations.
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+I believe Professor you're still working as a cancer doctor, you're a consultant oncologist.
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+I am indeed, yes.
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+Now, what's concerning you at the moment, there's some observations that you've been making that are concerning,
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+just if you don't mind, tell us about your observations and what your concerns are.
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+Well, I began to notice, I've been doing that onoma patients for over two decades and probably three.
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+Can you hear that?
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+He said melanoma in case you didn't hear that, it's a little tinny or something, I'll see if I can adjust this sound.
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+Longer than I can think, and I started working with these patients because nobody else wanted to work with them,
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+because they were very difficult, they didn't respond to chemotherapy, and so I was very interested in the history of immunotherapies working.
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+So, I basically immersed myself in this and started doing the first cancer vaccines,
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+first of all, collaboration with Don Morten of Cancer Vax and John Wayne Institute in California,
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+and I was the only collaborator outside the US for a set of many years,
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+and then I started working with a whole range of cancer vaccines,
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+and the ones that I'm most interested in, the ones that have stood the test the time are actually the simplest,
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+the heat-kill micomaterial ones, etc.
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+So, while doing this work, I began to notice things that, you know,
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+why did some people respond very well, and others not, I won't go into the details,
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+but it was, the first thing was clearly it was a vitamin D, we suddenly realized we were dealing with endemic vitamin D deficiency,
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+and if you corrected it, they started to respond better to immunotherapy, etc.
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+So, I've had some patients on immunotherapy for several years,
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+long before the new immunotherapies were approved, the hippielemies and the nillows and pembroves, etc.
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+And I started to notice that some of these patients, they were coming up to, you know,
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+they were over 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, they were suddenly relapsing,
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+and they were presenting with relapse disease after years of not having any disease.
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+Now, this was not unusual to me because I've seen it before, but I always wanted to know why.
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+Of course.
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+These are patients with malignant melanoma, malignant skin cancers.
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+I noticed that the patients had relaxed before, they all had a history of reason of something which caused
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+a significant period of immune suppression, such as, you know, a significant upset, bereavement, divorce, bankruptcy, etc.
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+And I saw it, but there was an explanation for it.
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+Now, more recently, I saw, I started to see it in more patients than I was used to in a short period of time.
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+First of all, it was six patients I counted who all came and they'd had to have another lump out yet to investigate and found it,
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+got relaps, etc.
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+And I started to ask the question, you know, have you had bereavement, divorce, and certainly other?
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+And then it, it tweaked.
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+They'd all told me that they'd, they'd, I've had my booster,
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+I've kept up to play with my boosters and it suddenly began to tweak because I was very against the booster program.
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+I put it quite, quite basically.
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+I've done over 30 years research into optimizing vaccines and immune response.
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+And I, I came to the conclusion that the vaccines that they use are obsessed with antibodies.
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+And I'm not, actually, I'm not interested in antibodies because it's the T cell response that you want.
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+It is the innate T cell response.
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+And as a cancer doctor, I noticed that the innate T cell response starts to decline at 55.
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+And by 70, it's fairly much in your boots. It's gone down the big ski slope.
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+But if you superimpose the rise of cancer treatments, it rises at the opposite rate, forming like a butterfly wing.
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+So it started to last as a cause and effect.
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+And then we found that we had an agent such as this, the new one we worked with for a long time,
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+IMM 101, he killed, it really boosted the innate immune response.
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+This is just a simple bacteria that's been killed and rejected.
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+I mean, it's, it's the, it's the other end of BCG and it came out of BCG work.
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+And it's very interesting is that BCG, it was found to boost the innate immune response.
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+And here's the clue, if you give it more than twice, it basically starts to ruin the response and just boost sanding.
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+So did this BCG was used to prevent tuberculosis?
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+BCG vaccine tuberculosis.
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+Now the heat kill micabacteria, they don't do this.
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+If you keep giving them, they keep boosting the T cell response.
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+They don't induce an antibody response. So that's kill mice and just boost sanding.
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+So did this BCG was used to prevent tuberculosis?
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+BCG vaccine tuberculosis.
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+Now the heat kill micabacteria, they don't do this.
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+If you keep giving them, they keep boosting the T cell response.
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+They don't induce an antibody response.
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+So as such, I thought this is a very useful agent.
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+I've been doing clinical trials on it.
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+And one of the things I did notice right at the beginning of the COVID was the patients are already telling me that, well, they're often their wife or husband would say, I don't know what it does for the cancer.
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+But I've never seen them go through winters and not have colds of blues all the time.
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+They seem absolutely fit.
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+And then I realized this is the innate ingredient response.
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+So I predicted this would be a very good frontline for COVID.
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+And sure enough, it was at the height of the first wave where there's no vaccines mentioned.
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+None of these patients call COVID.
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+And yet their average age was all over 65 as the average.
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+And they all were at risk as they had stage all melanoma.
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+They had a full thing.
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+None of them got ill.
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+They might have had a very mild COVID where other people all around were going down very badly with COVID, mainly the staff.
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+So these are people in your trial professor that were simply giving this microbacterial, very simple, killed bacteria vaccine.
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+And even though it's a specific form of bacteria you were giving, it was stimulating an innate immune response that was working against a wide variety of different viruses.
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+So you got it in one.
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+So that was the environment I was in.
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+And then we come up with the vaccine comes in.
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+And as I said, I had a lot of experience in this.
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+And I came to the conclusion, if you need to give more than two shots of vaccine, it doesn't work.
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+That'll be one of my general rules of vaccine.
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+And I think that's been proven to be absolutely right.
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+They've been the mooseless and worse than mooseless.
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+And they shouldn't.
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+They should never have been given.
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+If they were going to be considered, they should only be given to people who you knew their immune status.
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+You should have mentioned it.
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+I went on to a TV live debate with other doctors.
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+And I said, why the hell would you give a booster to a vaccine that people have already had without measuring if the response was satisfactory?
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+Because they might not need it.
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+Because if they do not need it, you'll make things worse.
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+And that was from the PCG example to name but one.
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+So people just dismiss me.
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+They wouldn't enter into proper debate about this.
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+They said this is an emergency.
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+No, it wasn't an emergency.
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+Because the next thing I realized, especially when the people who had the boosters were actually often saying,
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+well, I never had the COVID till I had the last booster.
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+And it all sorts of clues like this.
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+But it was in this group who were getting the relapses.
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+They all mentioned they were having the boosters as if they'd done the right thing.
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+And I suddenly explained, I thought it's the booster that's leading to the relapse.
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+And as a scientist, I wanted to know what the reason for that is.
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+Well, I know that you've only got a limited capacity in your immune system.
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+If you boost with another vaccine to harness half the immune system to make antibodies
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+to a virus that no longer exists on the planet, probably for one or even two years,
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+you're going to weaken it.
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+You're going to reduce the front line.
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+And then we got the papers coming up that beautifully confirmed it.
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+They showed that the booster, you no longer make ITG-1 and 3 neutralizing antibodies.
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+You get a subtype switch to ITG-4.
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+There's a very detailed, excellent paper showing this.
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+Well, an ITG-4 subtype is the last one because it's more of a taller agenda.
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+And it basically said, I don't have enough of this abuse.
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+We're switching off.
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+There's a salt on us with these agents.
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+But it gets worse because it also suppresses the T-cell response.
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+And there were some people who did a really nice study.
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+I can't remember it offhand, but I actually presented it in the presentation I dig easily.
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+The first group who showed that the T-cell response crashes after the booster in cancer patients.
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+Whereas it's not perturbed in the first two, but the booster,
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+these do a massive reduction in the T-cell response.
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+Not in all of them, but in many of them.
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+Well, to me, this was enough because we know, for immunotherapy,
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+I knew from my work of home 20 years before we started using these checkpoint inhibitors,
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+it'd be a demo, et cetera, that the T-cell controlled this disease
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+because I only saw relapses when there was a reason for perturbation.
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+Now we had a booster that was clearly causing perturbation,
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+which if it was transient, I wouldn't mind, but it was a lot more than transient,
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+especially when the patient said, well, I've had five vaccines.
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+I mean, I was beginning to scream, what are they doing?
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+What do I do?
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+And I reported all this to various medians.
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+I wrote it to, I wrote a paper to the people.
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+Okay, let's take a break there because it was going fast.
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+I'm sure for everybody.
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+Let me just come back over here and grab a older PowerPoint presentation from 2021.
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+And see if we can't just shed a little light on this.
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+So here's a slide from 2021.
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+And we talked about T-cells may offer lasting protection against COVID-19.
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+This was July 28th, 2020.
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+And I'd already been using this pretty much since August, I think of 2020.
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+The reason why this was pretty dubious is because language in titles in science matters.
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+And if anybody understands that Dr. Francis Collins does who wrote this blog.
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+And in choosing the immune T-cells may offer lasting protection against COVID-19,
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+he leaves the door open for maybe they don't.
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+Maybe it's not T-cells.
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+But of course, he knew already that in 2014,
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+there was a paper about CDA T-cells providing substantial protection from lethal coronavirus
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+disease done by none other than Stanley Pearlman,
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+the preeminent expert of coronaviruses at Iowa in the United States,
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+sitting on several committees, including the who advisory committee on coronavirus.
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+And he would have known that in 2010,
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+Stanley Pearlman demonstrated that T-cells responses are required, but antibodies aren't.
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+Required.
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+Required.
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+So there would have been no reason based on the previous mountain of coronavirus biology
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+in the literature to assume that T-cells weren't important,
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+but to assume that they were the thing required.
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+And of course, you and I learned that this is how the immune system works.
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+The T-cells and their orchestration and all their different kinds,
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+and all those different kinds,
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+crescendo and decrescendo, the immune response, that's really how it works.
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+B-cells are more puppets than anything else.
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+And this is really unfortunate that this illusion,
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+and it is an illusion of consensus that we don't know what's going on.
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+We have no idea what will happen with this coronavirus, but they knew.
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+Ten years before the pandemic, they already knew that virus-specific T-cells were vital.
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+So we see this pretty cool super-fast revealing sort of lecture
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+about how heat-killed mycobacterium is the best cancer vaccine out there.
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+It originates in BCG work, which I don't know what BCG work is.
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+We're going to have to do all kinds of stuff.
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+I'm going to have to work really hard.
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+I've got a lot of other things to do, too.
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+He had identified a endemic vitamin D deficiency already long ago,
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+and he already knew that this helped with people with this skin cancer
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+that he's talking about, this melanoma.
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+Relapse occurred often during stress or bereavement was the word he used several times,
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+and that could be marriage or divorce or death in the family.
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+And in the pandemic, he correlated relapse with the booster vaccine,
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+and he didn't correlate it, repeat, he did not correlate a relapse
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+with the first two shots, but now with the boosters.
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+Now it would be interesting to know whether or not the majority of the people
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+that he's calling boosted would have had AstraZeneca or Pfizer or Moderna,
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+because in the UK is one of the few places where AstraZeneca was rolled out
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+pretty widely.
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+And so it's possible that these people are a very unique experiment
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+where they had been first transformed to the spike and then transfected to the spike.
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+Yee.
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+No offense to if that's you.
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+He's not at all interested in antibodies.
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+That was a really cool.
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+I don't think you can see my arrow, can you?
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+You have to use this thing then.
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+He's not interested at all in antibodies.
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+That was a really nice statement for him to make.
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+And he said, you know, the T cells do everything.
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+That's really what we knew.
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+But interestingly, he did say that he killed mycobacterium vaccine that is used to treat
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+this melanoma in these patients can be used to repeatedly activate T cells.
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+It can.
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+These patients didn't get COVID.
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+So when they were being treated with this, this heat activated, heat killed
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+mycobacterium vaccine, which I guess is an activator for the immune system during this
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+to treat cancer, also protected them from COVID.
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+Interesting, right?
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+So he argues that they should have known the immune status of people before boosting.
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+Well, that's of course, that's of course true.
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+And if they were infected, then they should have never gotten another vaccine again.
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+That's also very true.
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+But people are doing it.
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+People are getting sicker because they're getting COVID or whatever it is that overlaps
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+with the RNA that they're, that they're transfecting us to, the protein that they're
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+transfecting us to.
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+And I don't purport to understand it, but understand that there are a number of
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+there's a
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+sorry, I had to hear what was going on back there.
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+There's a, there's a number of different mechanisms by which this could be going wrong.
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+And so we just need to understand that as he said repeatedly, repeated exposure doesn't
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+mean good.
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+And when we were talking last night with Drew Weismann's lecture about how with
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+mRNA in an LNP, we got 50 fold more antibodies.
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+Well, if you, if you let this guy listen to that guy say we got 50 fold more antibodies,
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+I think this professor would lose his mind.
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+And he would like stop the whole prefer, he would hope he would stop the whole
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+presentation and be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait.
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+Hey, Drew Weismann, like, why do you think some antibodies good, more antibodies better?
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+You know, truckloads of antibodies are, are, are fantastic.
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+Why, why is that what, what, what biological evidence do you have that any
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+homeostatic mechanism in a pattern integrity works like that?
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+What, what enzymatic chain of proteins working together works better the more of one of
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+those that you have.
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+Because that's what an antibody is.
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+It is a part of a system of signaling in the immune system.
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+And having more and more and more of it will eventually lead to an imbalance that will be
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+maladaptive.
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+Having more and more cells in the immune system focused on that protein or that set of
+
+37:12.000 --> 37:20.000
+epitopes or whatever happens after that happens when you transfect someone cannot always be
+
+37:20.000 --> 37:22.000
+good.
+
+37:22.000 --> 37:27.000
+And if what happens is what Drew Weismann showed us in that talk yesterday,
+
+37:27.000 --> 37:34.000
+that your lymph nodes are completely full of cells that are transfected, we don't know
+
+37:34.000 --> 37:41.000
+how to transfect T cells usefully.
+
+37:41.000 --> 37:49.000
+And anyone claiming that we know how to transfect T cells usefully to augment the immune system
+
+37:49.000 --> 37:55.000
+without throwing off anything that it's doing that we're not aware of.
+
+37:55.000 --> 37:57.000
+Let me repeat that again.
+
+37:57.000 --> 38:04.000
+We're not capable of augmenting the immune system with the specificity with the tinkering
+
+38:04.000 --> 38:11.000
+accuracy to not accidentally mess with all the other things that the immune system has
+
+38:11.000 --> 38:17.000
+brought into balance in our lives.
+
+38:17.000 --> 38:24.000
+Ignoring the antigens on strawberries, ignoring the antigens on your favorite processed foods,
+
+38:24.000 --> 38:32.000
+ignoring the antigens present in your favorite box cereal, ignoring the antigens in your
+
+38:32.000 --> 38:36.000
+cleaning products.
+
+38:36.000 --> 38:42.000
+Your immune system works really, really hard if you don't have something wrong with your
+
+38:42.000 --> 38:45.000
+skin or you don't have something wrong with your gut.
+
+38:45.000 --> 38:50.000
+You've been doing very well and protecting it, very well and augmenting it.
+
+38:50.000 --> 38:58.000
+But most likely if you've lived in America your whole life, your immune system is a wreck.
+
+38:58.000 --> 39:04.000
+And it's really interesting what this guy says because it is this illusion that there's nothing
+
+39:04.000 --> 39:09.000
+to fix, that there's this illusion that there's nothing to bring back into balance.
+
+39:09.000 --> 39:12.000
+There's this illusion that there's nothing you can do.
+
+39:12.000 --> 39:14.000
+Just take the vaccine.
+
+39:14.000 --> 39:20.000
+When it might be better for you to lose weight to eat better, to stop drive-throughs, to stop
+
+39:20.000 --> 39:26.000
+eating out of a box or a bag, it might be better to do those things than it would be to
+
+39:26.000 --> 39:35.000
+transfect yourself because those things actually will usefully augment your immune system.
+
+39:35.000 --> 39:37.000
+And that's really the trick.
+
+39:37.000 --> 39:42.000
+He also pointed to the subtype switch to IG4 which suppresses the T cell response.
+
+39:42.000 --> 39:44.000
+He looked a little bit into that.
+
+39:44.000 --> 39:48.000
+It seems to be that the people on the other side of the argument want to tell you that
+
+39:48.000 --> 39:50.000
+IG4 does nothing.
+
+39:50.000 --> 39:58.000
+It's like a no functional FC portion of the antibody so it does nothing.
+
+39:58.000 --> 40:06.000
+But it's hard for me to really imagine that the immune system has developed IG4 as a way,
+
+40:06.000 --> 40:12.000
+IG4, excuse me, as a way of doing nothing.
+
+40:12.000 --> 40:15.000
+That seems to be quite wasteful.
+
+40:15.000 --> 40:18.000
+And so more than likely it does do something.
+
+40:18.000 --> 40:24.000
+And suppress the T cell response makes sense because the T cell response being suppressed
+
+40:24.000 --> 40:32.000
+by a smaller antibody, I don't know if it makes sense because it's a smaller antibody.
+
+40:32.000 --> 40:39.000
+It's because it, where it is in that progression that it seems to go from IgM to IgG, IgG1,
+
+40:39.000 --> 40:41.000
+3, IgG4.
+
+40:41.000 --> 40:49.000
+So if it is the one after repeated exposure, it does definitely make sense that it's tolerance.
+
+40:49.000 --> 40:54.000
+And the tolerance would be expressed by a T cell response that's dampened.
+
+40:54.000 --> 41:00.000
+Okay, I'm sorry, I just figured I had to say something.
+
+41:00.000 --> 41:01.000
+BMJ.
+
+41:01.000 --> 41:06.000
+I thought the BMJ had actually started to publicize things which are a little bit, you know,
+
+41:06.000 --> 41:08.000
+concerning to doctors rather than censor it.
+
+41:08.000 --> 41:14.000
+And basically I found, you know, I was the first in the UK to point out that the virus escaped
+
+41:14.000 --> 41:15.000
+from the lab.
+
+41:15.000 --> 41:19.000
+And to me it was completely obvious because it had inserts in it that one of them could
+
+41:19.000 --> 41:23.000
+occur naturally, not six or around the receptor binding site, no, that wasn't.
+
+41:23.000 --> 41:26.000
+And for my pains pointing this out, I thought this is brilliant.
+
+41:26.000 --> 41:30.000
+This is brilliant, we can challenge the nature of the sites.
+
+41:30.000 --> 41:35.000
+Every single general turned down papers pointing all this out saying it's not in the public
+
+41:35.000 --> 41:36.000
+interest.
+
+41:36.000 --> 41:38.000
+I mean, basically this was a normal one.
+
+41:38.000 --> 41:46.000
+Okay, so one possibility is that he is one of these many people who was right, that the
+
+41:46.000 --> 41:51.000
+sequence of the virus that was released is a sequence that indicates that it was a lab
+
+41:51.000 --> 41:57.000
+virus and that these extra things that they put in the protein of the spike protein into
+
+41:57.000 --> 42:03.500
+the protein that is the spike protein, these extra little things made it somehow possible
+
+42:03.500 --> 42:10.280
+for the RNA that encodes for it to circle the globe for three and a half years.
+
+42:10.280 --> 42:13.280
+That seems to be what he believes.
+
+42:13.280 --> 42:17.800
+And so we've got to be aware of where this guy's immunology is awesome and then where
+
+42:17.800 --> 42:22.800
+it's like, wait, do you understand what you're saying?
+
+42:22.800 --> 42:31.440
+And so the sequence that was released made it seem like it was a lab leak.
+
+42:31.440 --> 42:38.040
+Not all of the sequences, not all of the sequences, the sequence that was released at the beginning
+
+42:38.040 --> 42:44.840
+of the pandemic and how many of these inserts has he kept track of?
+
+42:44.840 --> 42:49.640
+How many of these inserts do we know are still there or not there?
+
+42:49.640 --> 42:52.120
+Who's keeping track of that?
+
+42:52.120 --> 42:58.120
+And if they are so important and yet so easy for someone to find, if they have the sequence
+
+42:58.120 --> 43:02.800
+of the virus, why in the hell aren't some of these people keeping track of these sequences
+
+43:02.800 --> 43:10.520
+so that we can sort of correlate their appearance or disappearance with the veracity of the infection,
+
+43:10.520 --> 43:15.640
+with the infectivity of the virus, with the gain of function attributes that must certainly
+
+43:15.640 --> 43:25.800
+be present if there's six of these things around the receptor binding domain of the virus.
+
+43:25.800 --> 43:33.240
+Well, the administrative truth has taken over.
+
+43:33.240 --> 43:38.240
+This is after you've had 563 previous papers published over a distinguished career.
+
+43:38.240 --> 43:42.160
+I can't think of a doctor who's more qualified than you offhand actually, so after a distinguished
+
+43:42.160 --> 43:46.440
+career and all this work, you could get published any more.
+
+43:46.440 --> 43:53.360
+Well, it's not actually the quantity that there's a quality issue, too, I would say.
+
+43:53.360 --> 43:57.880
+And I've never really wanted to publish things that were at least the time were irrelevant
+
+43:57.880 --> 44:05.600
+but to add to stories, I've had a lot of stories, I had a big presence in HIV and I discovered
+
+44:05.600 --> 44:10.280
+the receptor that it was the first author of colleagues doing it and that led to me being
+
+44:10.280 --> 44:15.960
+very recognised as a serious virologist and scientist, which to me was very surprising.
+
+44:15.960 --> 44:21.000
+I was at all the early HIV meetings and I've upped into people, I mean, after I was a guest
+
+44:21.000 --> 44:25.560
+at Bon Gallo and I had bumped into Fauci with Fabio and all the others and I thought, well,
+
+44:25.560 --> 44:29.080
+these guys really, at the field, was talking about publications, they were publishing in
+
+44:29.080 --> 44:33.800
+nature and science and they took three weeks in a bit to me and I was just lucky to get
+
+44:33.840 --> 44:37.880
+one or two in it, it just seemed to me that they were kind of god's must and it took me
+
+44:37.880 --> 44:44.200
+quite a while before I realised, actually, no, they're not, and I came to the conclusion
+
+44:44.200 --> 44:48.320
+and I was saying this because it's in my personal opinion that Fauci is not very bright.
+
+44:48.320 --> 44:52.360
+He thinks he is, he's a very good diplomat, he's actually not very bright because I pointed
+
+44:52.360 --> 44:57.480
+out that in sessions when he'd share that, is you'll never get the HIV vaccine if you
+
+44:57.480 --> 45:03.160
+use the entire envelope, the 3,000 antigens of it, you throw that as an antigen after
+
+45:03.160 --> 45:10.440
+the new response, it's going to pick out the dominant responses and the viruses evolve
+
+45:10.440 --> 45:14.480
+that the dominant responses will be against the bits of it, it doesn't give a damn about
+
+45:14.480 --> 45:19.600
+and I also predict is that it's a decoy, that their Achilles heel buys at the heart of
+
+45:19.600 --> 45:25.080
+this and by giving the whole envelope, you'll never allow the body to see the Achilles heel,
+
+45:25.080 --> 45:28.240
+we worked it out, I won't go into that but that's a big chunk of papers that I did which
+
+45:28.240 --> 45:32.240
+I have never got the recognition that they deserved, I thought they were far more important
+
+45:32.240 --> 45:43.080
+than the CD4 receptor but, I mean, I'm just going to rewind it and listen to what he said
+
+45:43.080 --> 45:44.080
+again.
+
+45:44.080 --> 45:53.640
+Look at that, is you'll never get the HIV vaccine if you use the entire envelope, there's 3,000
+
+45:53.640 --> 45:59.280
+antigens of it, you throw that as an antigen after the new response, it's going to pick
+
+45:59.280 --> 46:05.760
+out the dominant responses and the viruses evolve that the dominant responses will be
+
+46:05.760 --> 46:09.920
+against bits of it, it doesn't give a damn about that and I also predict is that it's
+
+46:09.920 --> 46:16.200
+a decoy, that their Achilles heel buys at the heart of this and by giving the whole envelope,
+
+46:16.200 --> 46:20.000
+you'll never allow the body to see the Achilles heel, we worked it out, I won't go into that
+
+46:20.000 --> 46:23.880
+but that's a big chunk of papers that I did which I have never got the recognition that
+
+46:23.880 --> 46:28.360
+they deserved, I thought they were far more important than the CD4 receptor but the wasn't
+
+46:28.360 --> 46:30.760
+like this.
+
+46:30.760 --> 46:35.760
+Those papers were far more important than they were given recognition for and this was far
+
+46:35.760 --> 46:38.720
+more important than the CD4 receptor.
+
+46:38.720 --> 46:49.560
+The CD4 receptor is supposedly how the HIV virus infects T cells and he said that the Achilles
+
+46:49.560 --> 46:54.120
+heel lies at the heart of this but I don't know what he meant if that meant the envelope
+
+46:54.120 --> 47:08.600
+protein or the heart of the HIV virus or what but I hear motivation, I hear an ego,
+
+47:08.600 --> 47:12.800
+I don't hear somebody who's trying to blow the whistle, I hear somebody who's more than
+
+47:12.800 --> 47:18.760
+trying to blow the whistle, he's trying to blow his own whistle, interesting.
+
+47:18.760 --> 47:24.280
+This led to me collaborating and my group with several people, we had a European collaborative
+
+47:24.280 --> 47:29.680
+group which we introduced lots of papers and showed that the virus never causes AIDS unless
+
+47:29.680 --> 47:34.280
+it activates the immune system first and whether it activates is determined entirely by your
+
+47:34.280 --> 47:39.280
+HIV type and those people who know it's sort of tissue genetics you've born with isn't
+
+47:39.280 --> 47:40.280
+it?
+
+47:40.280 --> 47:41.280
+Absolutely.
+
+47:41.280 --> 47:57.000
+He just said that it never causes AIDS in people, it all depends on their HLAs uptime.
+
+47:57.000 --> 48:03.320
+Never causes AIDS in people unless it activates their immune system and that depends on HLAs
+
+48:03.320 --> 48:05.320
+uptime, I think that's what he said.
+
+48:05.320 --> 48:10.160
+We introduced lots of papers and showed that the virus never causes AIDS, the best activates
+
+48:10.160 --> 48:15.440
+the immune system first and whether it activates is determined entirely by your HLAs type
+
+48:15.440 --> 48:19.560
+and those people who know it's sort of tissue genetics you've born with isn't it?
+
+48:19.560 --> 48:20.560
+Absolutely.
+
+48:20.560 --> 48:26.040
+Those people who had long-term infection and didn't seem to get ill, we predicted they
+
+48:26.040 --> 48:30.520
+must have a certain HIV type and one of the guys that worked with me was very hot on this
+
+48:30.520 --> 48:37.360
+actually predicted the HIV type early on from his computations and modelling and the modelling
+
+48:37.360 --> 48:41.200
+that's my colleagues and I didn't those days, unlikely people at Imperial College
+
+48:41.200 --> 48:45.120
+don't seem to model anything remotely correctly, this turned out to be very true because he
+
+48:45.120 --> 48:51.120
+predicted that HIV-8 people would get AIDS quickly and those with HIV-27 would get it
+
+48:51.120 --> 48:56.760
+very slowly if this Achilles heel was a bit dry with the disease and it was proven in
+
+48:56.760 --> 49:02.200
+a big MRC survey that those were the only two significant things, B-8 plus, B-27, they
+
+49:02.200 --> 49:03.200
+hardly get it.
+
+49:03.560 --> 49:07.960
+Based on the back of that I predicted, well, there's one group of chapsu that never gets
+
+49:07.960 --> 49:11.680
+AIDS however much virus you've given them, that's the chimpanzee, I reckon they must
+
+49:11.680 --> 49:14.240
+all be HLA B-27 or similar.
+
+49:14.240 --> 49:18.600
+It took five years to persuade that one of the people who had a large chimpanzee colony
+
+49:18.600 --> 49:26.160
+to do the HLA, if it were genetic immune codes and they were all HLA B-57 which is sort of
+
+49:26.160 --> 49:31.440
+a brother of B-27 so absolutely right and the only conclusion from that was they'd all
+
+49:31.440 --> 49:37.000
+been eliminated in the past in the wild by HIV, so you're dealing with a survival
+
+49:37.000 --> 49:38.000
+population.
+
+49:38.000 --> 49:44.920
+We had a big understanding of this and working with my Norwegian colleague who came up with
+
+49:44.920 --> 49:50.120
+the same idea, do not use the envelope, too much information, decoy, Achilles et cetera,
+
+49:50.120 --> 49:54.600
+he identified four Achilles heels, made them in peptides, asked me to join him because
+
+49:54.600 --> 50:01.040
+of immunological expertise and the HIV being in the HIV field, he did that very successful
+
+50:01.040 --> 50:07.160
+HIV vaccine, never achieved its primary goal in trials because the primary goal would
+
+50:07.160 --> 50:11.000
+be set wrong, had it not been set wrong, it probably would have been much more successful.
+
+50:11.000 --> 50:16.080
+We haven't given up, I think this is the best HIV vaccine, but what really got me about
+
+50:16.080 --> 50:22.200
+the establishment is that the gates are rescued, the MRC, MRC, they all ask you, and we put
+
+50:22.200 --> 50:26.800
+this proposal and said that the envelope vaccines will never ever work because this
+
+50:26.800 --> 50:30.640
+certainly will, but this already works, we've had it in humans and it reduces the virus
+
+50:30.640 --> 50:32.040
+learned very well.
+
+50:32.040 --> 50:36.880
+We want to just modify, optimize it, and we recommend that you be able to give this and
+
+50:36.880 --> 50:40.960
+take people off how the HIV trends were for months and months at a time, which should
+
+50:40.960 --> 50:43.400
+be tremendous for Africa.
+
+50:43.400 --> 50:47.320
+We were always rejected, it's a very clever idea, et cetera, et cetera, but we don't need
+
+50:47.320 --> 50:51.600
+a plan B at the moment because we've got a great big worldwide clinical trial and this
+
+50:51.600 --> 50:53.600
+looks like it will be positive.
+
+50:54.600 --> 50:59.400
+One, two, three, the third time, they still said it be positive, I mean, was it Einstein
+
+50:59.400 --> 51:02.800
+who said the definition of an idiot or somebody who keeps studying the same thing expecting
+
+51:02.800 --> 51:03.800
+a different answer?
+
+51:03.800 --> 51:05.640
+Sounds like the sort of thing he would say, yeah.
+
+51:05.640 --> 51:08.480
+So you have HIV vaccine, what is it actually target?
+
+51:08.480 --> 51:13.600
+It was targeting the, this is very relevant to COVID by the way, it targeted the nucleus,
+
+51:13.600 --> 51:14.600
+not the envelope.
+
+51:14.600 --> 51:20.520
+Right, so the proteins in the nucleus of the HIV, it ignored the envelope, we subsequently
+
+51:20.520 --> 51:24.280
+optimized it by adding in the one bit that drives the immune activation, which I had
+
+51:24.280 --> 51:28.720
+spent years identifying reality and it makes it seem better, so it really works well now.
+
+51:28.720 --> 51:32.760
+Now the thing that really annoys the nucleus is not a thing, so I'm not sure what he's
+
+51:32.760 --> 51:33.760
+talking about.
+
+51:33.760 --> 51:40.120
+Maybe it's the nucleocapsid protein, maybe HIV has a similar protein with a similar name,
+
+51:40.120 --> 51:44.680
+but even John Campbell seemed a little confused with the nucleus of what?
+
+51:44.680 --> 51:47.440
+This is unfortunate.
+
+51:47.440 --> 51:53.240
+It's an awful lot of sales pitch here, and it's a sales pitch for an HIV vaccine that
+
+51:53.240 --> 52:03.960
+has four Achilles heels, which are his cartoon version of an epitope or an antigen set.
+
+52:03.960 --> 52:11.720
+He seems to get those two things mixed up and antigen can have many epitopes.
+
+52:11.720 --> 52:19.120
+You should see it that way, because an epitope is really a very specific word, which describes
+
+52:19.120 --> 52:25.000
+the amino acid sequence that the immune system has encoded, either in a T cell receptor or
+
+52:25.000 --> 52:34.520
+has presented on MHC2 or has been encoded in a B cell receptor, i.e. antibody.
+
+52:34.520 --> 52:41.080
+So don't let that get mixed up for you, because that's something that everybody, when they're
+
+52:41.080 --> 52:47.360
+being imprecise gets mixed up, but an antigen is the protein in question.
+
+52:47.360 --> 52:55.120
+The antigen in the case of the cartoon transfection is the spike protein, or in the case of a
+
+52:55.120 --> 52:59.080
+more realistic transfection, it's a spike protein in whatever fragments are made from
+
+52:59.080 --> 53:04.560
+a fragment RNA, and whatever fragments are made when the protein is expressed correctly
+
+53:04.560 --> 53:07.160
+or bolded correctly.
+
+53:07.160 --> 53:11.400
+That's an antigen, and those antigens can have many epitopes on them, and it's up to
+
+53:11.400 --> 53:16.320
+your immune system to select the epitope from the spike protein that it will present to
+
+53:16.320 --> 53:21.320
+T cells that it will make antibodies potentially to.
+
+53:21.320 --> 53:25.520
+Because if you don't have B cells that recognize a particular part of the spike protein, then
+
+53:25.520 --> 53:29.960
+you're not going to have B cells that do that.
+
+53:29.960 --> 53:33.960
+So it's a predetermined thing already, and a lot of people don't understand that, that
+
+53:33.960 --> 53:36.640
+what you have is there.
+
+53:36.640 --> 53:42.600
+And until that B cell gets recruited and given T cell help, it's not going to evolve, it's
+
+53:42.600 --> 53:49.080
+genetic identity at all, it's just going to sit there dormant.
+
+53:49.080 --> 53:54.560
+So this guy seems to believe, and I correct me if I'm wrong in the chat, but this guy
+
+53:54.560 --> 54:05.400
+really seems to believe that two shots were okay.
+
+54:05.400 --> 54:10.560
+That seems to be a pretty crazy thing for me, for him to be saying right now, anybody
+
+54:10.560 --> 54:16.360
+is saying that the booster was the particular thing, and that no vaccine works if you need
+
+54:16.360 --> 54:19.080
+more than two.
+
+54:19.080 --> 54:24.800
+So he almost seems to be arguing that the mistake was the booster, and what are we on
+
+54:24.800 --> 54:25.800
+in America?
+
+54:25.800 --> 54:27.040
+Are we on our fourth or our fifth?
+
+54:27.040 --> 54:31.320
+This is a real interesting stance that he's taking here.
+
+54:31.320 --> 54:36.760
+I mean, was it Einstein who said the definition of an idiot or somebody who keeps studying
+
+54:36.760 --> 54:38.320
+the same thing expecting a different answer?
+
+54:38.320 --> 54:40.440
+Sounds like the sort of thing he would say.
+
+54:40.440 --> 54:43.320
+So you have HIV vaccine, what does this actually target?
+
+54:43.320 --> 54:48.240
+It was targeting the, this is very relevant to COVID by the way, it targeted the nucleus
+
+54:48.240 --> 54:49.240
+not the envelope.
+
+54:49.240 --> 54:50.240
+Right.
+
+54:50.240 --> 54:54.800
+So the proteins in the nucleus of the HIV, it ignored the envelope.
+
+54:54.800 --> 54:58.480
+We subsequently optimised it by adding in the one bit that drives the immune activation,
+
+54:58.480 --> 55:03.280
+which I have spent years identifying, we added the one bit that drives the immune activation,
+
+55:03.280 --> 55:10.080
+the one bit, and we, he's squeezing motion as we added in, we added in the one bit, the
+
+55:10.080 --> 55:18.720
+tell is this, darn it, I'm getting upset because this is not the accuracy, and this
+
+55:18.720 --> 55:19.720
+is not what I hoped it is.
+
+55:19.720 --> 55:20.720
+It makes it seem better.
+
+55:20.720 --> 55:22.920
+So it really works well now.
+
+55:22.920 --> 55:27.920
+Now, the thing that really annoys me was the, or we're talking people spending billions,
+
+55:27.920 --> 55:33.000
+I mean, how Genentech was involved in IH, the Gates Foundation, Garvey, IHavi, we approached
+
+55:33.000 --> 55:35.600
+them all, and they all brushed us off, we know what we're doing.
+
+55:35.600 --> 55:39.680
+And each of those big, he mentioned a lot of players, right?
+
+55:39.760 --> 55:42.920
+And each of those big, worldwide vaccine trials, it was the same thing being presented, just
+
+55:42.920 --> 55:43.920
+different technology.
+
+55:43.920 --> 56:09.600
+So it made me realise, do not fall for technology, now, listen to that, because this is what
+
+56:09.600 --> 56:11.680
+we hear all the time.
+
+56:11.680 --> 56:16.320
+And you know, 10 years ago, it was DNA vaccines, are they going to save the world, this sat in
+
+56:16.320 --> 56:17.320
+the other?
+
+56:17.320 --> 56:22.400
+They worked brilliantly in mice, and guinea pigs and things, and dogs.
+
+56:22.400 --> 56:25.000
+But as soon as you get bigger, the dogs, they do not work.
+
+56:25.000 --> 56:26.960
+These are the adeno virus vector.
+
+56:26.960 --> 56:34.760
+And so it, then everybody said, RNA is the thing, now don't think RNA is recent, I mean,
+
+56:34.760 --> 56:35.760
+this is the other thing.
+
+56:35.840 --> 56:40.920
+And when I was giving a thing, saying that I actually blame the RNA technology to make
+
+56:40.920 --> 56:45.680
+it the boosters even worse, and people were involved in them, say, the attitude was, well,
+
+56:45.680 --> 56:48.600
+what do you, you know, you need to be like what you're talking about, you want to stay
+
+56:48.600 --> 56:55.280
+technical, you know, I'm conscious, no, I mean, I sat on the scientific board by a company
+
+56:55.280 --> 57:01.120
+that called itself the messenger RNA cancer vaccine company for five years, I left six
+
+57:01.120 --> 57:04.760
+or seven years ago, and they had everything in place.
+
+57:04.760 --> 57:07.160
+I mean, they weren't able to take it forward.
+
+57:07.160 --> 57:13.440
+So the messenger RNA industry has been there waiting for an excuse for a long time.
+
+57:13.440 --> 57:15.160
+And I think that's correct.
+
+57:15.160 --> 57:21.320
+And he should have been waiting for an excuse to teach you that adenovirus DNA containing
+
+57:21.320 --> 57:28.920
+adenoviruses that work in lower animals are called transformations.
+
+57:28.920 --> 57:36.040
+And mRNA used in any carrier type form to express proteins in these lower animals has
+
+57:36.040 --> 57:38.040
+been called transfection.
+
+57:38.040 --> 57:44.120
+Now, I'm really happy with what he said there because it actually brings to mind something
+
+57:44.120 --> 57:49.400
+that I should have really pointed out a long time ago.
+
+57:49.400 --> 57:58.320
+And that is that we don't understand why it's so difficult to create genetically modified
+
+57:58.960 --> 58:02.600
+animals, but it is.
+
+58:02.600 --> 58:07.280
+It's easy to do it in mice relative to doing it in rats.
+
+58:07.280 --> 58:13.080
+And it's even more difficult to do it in monkeys than it ever would be to do it in rats.
+
+58:13.080 --> 58:17.000
+And I'm not even sure if it's possible to do it in monkeys yet.
+
+58:17.000 --> 58:22.560
+I would need to look maybe it's possible in some smaller monkeys.
+
+58:22.560 --> 58:29.680
+And it's not really clear why, but my guess is, is it's the lifetime of the animal.
+
+58:29.680 --> 58:38.080
+My guess is, is it's the lifetime of the pattern integrity that you are messing with.
+
+58:38.080 --> 58:42.320
+And you can remove the gene from a pattern integrity that's only going to last for, you
+
+58:42.320 --> 58:49.120
+know, like, only needs to last for 50 weeks.
+
+58:49.120 --> 58:53.480
+But if you remove a pattern integrity from something that whose developmental time course
+
+58:53.480 --> 59:01.280
+is a few years and whose productive lifetime is 20 years, then that the detrimental effects
+
+59:01.280 --> 59:09.200
+of removing one of these parts of the pattern integrity from it can have catastrophic consequences
+
+59:09.200 --> 59:16.960
+and that manifests itself in all kinds of weird anecdotal shoulder shrugs in academic
+
+59:16.960 --> 59:17.960
+science.
+
+59:18.120 --> 59:20.480
+Why don't you make a knockout monkey of that?
+
+59:20.480 --> 59:23.760
+Well, we can't make knockout monkeys.
+
+59:23.760 --> 59:32.360
+Why don't you take that gene and do what you did in that mouse in a better animal example?
+
+59:32.360 --> 59:36.760
+Well, because we can't, because a lot of the things that we can do in mice, we can't do
+
+59:36.760 --> 59:37.760
+in higher animals.
+
+59:37.760 --> 59:42.640
+And what he expressed here, which I was not aware of, but I took notes and I think we
+
+59:42.640 --> 59:50.080
+should follow up on this, is that adenovirus DNA transformation and the use of a DNA of
+
+59:50.080 --> 01:00:00.600
+adenovirus in animals up to dogs seems to work interesting, isn't it?
+
+01:00:00.600 --> 01:00:05.360
+Interesting that we know that much interesting that he knows that much.
+
+01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:09.040
+Not sure this is the gold mine that everybody thought it was, but it is a gold mine.
+
+01:00:09.040 --> 01:00:14.720
+It's a gold mine because you can now know why, well, I think we're learning.
+
+01:00:14.720 --> 01:00:15.720
+It's great.
+
+01:00:15.720 --> 01:00:22.360
+I like why it's, you know, it was the pandemic was the excuse that you suddenly to save
+
+01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:23.360
+the world, et cetera.
+
+01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:29.240
+This was the kind of thing, but when I go back to going to the patients who've relaxed
+
+01:00:29.240 --> 01:00:34.280
+and melanoma, they go back to that, I put it all down to the immune suppression caused
+
+01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:35.280
+by the boosters.
+
+01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:40.080
+But I've seen some later relapses, which is say, well, perhaps the immune suppression
+
+01:00:40.080 --> 01:00:42.560
+was recovered by now.
+
+01:00:42.560 --> 01:00:48.400
+And then you become aware of that this is where the irony comes in, is that the, to me,
+
+01:00:48.400 --> 01:00:49.400
+I was always suspicious.
+
+01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:53.680
+I saw all these reports and they were always pushed aside and many publications were pulled
+
+01:00:53.680 --> 01:00:59.520
+in the census, or well, in the censorship, by whatever it is, I don't know.
+
+01:00:59.520 --> 01:01:01.920
+But whatever it is, the census has been awful.
+
+01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:04.400
+But now there is enough data out there.
+
+01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:11.560
+There's enough people cried out that the quality control of messenger RNA viruses, which I believe
+
+01:01:11.560 --> 01:01:12.560
+was always the big issue.
+
+01:01:12.560 --> 01:01:14.280
+I mean, it was a big, big issue.
+
+01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:15.280
+That's not me.
+
+01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:18.800
+And you've seen all the, the quality of the vaccines, you know, the, there was a, for
+
+01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:24.240
+the first time, mainstream media, the article in spectator Australia actually went through
+
+01:01:24.240 --> 01:01:28.800
+well, not only is the quality controlled or for, but it's contaminated with DNA plasminced.
+
+01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:34.480
+One report up to 350 yard times with sequences from the SV40 promoter.
+
+01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:41.160
+Well, the SV40 is an oncogenic promoter used in cancer development in mice.
+
+01:01:41.160 --> 01:01:46.160
+And, you know, first of all, I say, what, hell is that doing in an RNA vaccine you have
+
+01:01:46.160 --> 01:01:47.160
+to ask?
+
+01:01:47.160 --> 01:01:51.360
+Because the presence of that, the presence of DNA means it can integrate.
+
+01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:53.040
+Surely, that's not possible.
+
+01:01:53.040 --> 01:01:57.200
+Well, you don't have to go very far into the literature to find people reporting that
+
+01:01:57.200 --> 01:02:01.080
+these spike proteins integrated into all sorts of different tissue.
+
+01:02:01.080 --> 01:02:07.120
+And for, you know, for rape, they said that it stays at the point of the injection site
+
+01:02:07.120 --> 01:02:08.120
+and there's no way it spreads.
+
+01:02:08.120 --> 01:02:09.120
+Oh, that's all right.
+
+01:02:09.120 --> 01:02:11.960
+And so this is turns out to be a complete life.
+
+01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:12.960
+It's been identified.
+
+01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:13.960
+It autopsies.
+
+01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:14.960
+It's been identified everywhere.
+
+01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:17.920
+And this is the other thing with patients.
+
+01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:22.040
+I can't get autopsies on these patients to prove this.
+
+01:02:22.040 --> 01:02:23.240
+It's quite incredible.
+
+01:02:23.240 --> 01:02:30.520
+But a colleague who had an explosive cancer, a co-erectal, basically at surgery, sent the
+
+01:02:30.520 --> 01:02:37.280
+places away, the pieces away, the tuses away, and spike messenger RNA from the vaccine insertion
+
+01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:38.280
+was confirmed.
+
+01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:42.480
+So it is, this is, this to me is quite frightening that this is occurring.
+
+01:02:42.480 --> 01:02:46.400
+And also that there's been this, we don't need to do post-moresomes on patients dying
+
+01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:47.400
+from this.
+
+01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:50.680
+It is, it's like it's from on high and they just won't do it.
+
+01:02:50.680 --> 01:02:55.240
+I pleaded for one on the patient who died from explosive melanoma, who said, I never
+
+01:02:55.240 --> 01:03:00.280
+felt well after the booster, I just felt chronically unwell and then the melanoma came
+
+01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:01.280
+exploding back.
+
+01:03:01.280 --> 01:03:05.080
+And then I had the patient's relatives consented to a post-mortem.
+
+01:03:05.080 --> 01:03:06.080
+Oh, yes.
+
+01:03:06.080 --> 01:03:07.080
+Oh, yes.
+
+01:03:07.080 --> 01:03:08.080
+So just a minute.
+
+01:03:08.080 --> 01:03:09.080
+You're one of the most senior doctors in the country.
+
+01:03:09.080 --> 01:03:10.080
+You wanted a post-mortem.
+
+01:03:10.080 --> 01:03:13.280
+The relatives are consented to a post-mortem, but that, that was refused.
+
+01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:14.280
+This is just unbelievable.
+
+01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:15.280
+It's over, yeah.
+
+01:03:15.280 --> 01:03:16.280
+Unbelievable.
+
+01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:17.280
+It is over by whom?
+
+01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:22.480
+Well, perhaps there's something to do with, there was a report which got into the Lancet
+
+01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:27.280
+of people who died after the vaccines to see whether it could, I don't know if you saw
+
+01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:28.280
+that.
+
+01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:30.720
+It appeared in the Lancet, but then it was pulled.
+
+01:03:30.720 --> 01:03:32.880
+It was pulled very quickly.
+
+01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:37.640
+The explanation given it was properly peer reviewed, which tells you there's not, peer
+
+01:03:37.640 --> 01:03:38.640
+review is over-embed.
+
+01:03:38.640 --> 01:03:42.280
+I mean, basically it's not politically within the political mantra.
+
+01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:45.440
+And this is what really, this is what really frightens me.
+
+01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:50.400
+I went to do an interview along these things, you know, into a mainstream media channel.
+
+01:03:50.400 --> 01:03:53.240
+And the guy warned me at the beginning, he says, I have to be very careful the way I
+
+01:03:53.240 --> 01:03:54.240
+ask you questions.
+
+01:03:54.240 --> 01:03:55.240
+And please don't be put off.
+
+01:03:55.240 --> 01:03:57.240
+I probably sound fairly hostile.
+
+01:03:57.240 --> 01:04:00.080
+I'm very happy to discuss facts or something, are they?
+
+01:04:00.080 --> 01:04:05.800
+But he said, the government had made it a crime to criticize the vaccine program on the media.
+
+01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:11.200
+And I said, I'm astonished but actually thinking about it, I'm not surprised because it explains
+
+01:04:11.200 --> 01:04:13.240
+why nothing, nothing is being discussed.
+
+01:04:13.240 --> 01:04:17.480
+Without someone in the mainstream media, they actually don't think I'll do it.
+
+01:04:17.480 --> 01:04:23.920
+And as you know, the off-con basically weighed it into Mark Stein on the GB News, but basically
+
+01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:24.920
+querying just that.
+
+01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:28.320
+I mean, it's the job of the press to raise the question.
+
+01:04:28.320 --> 01:04:30.120
+And that actually is my job.
+
+01:04:30.120 --> 01:04:35.400
+I mean, I was carpeted for saying this without proof that I'd actually have to present proof.
+
+01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:38.520
+Well, they won't let you get the proof, that's not.
+
+01:04:38.520 --> 01:04:44.560
+But based on this, one of the things that I did do, because I have been with many others,
+
+01:04:44.560 --> 01:04:51.600
+particularly Ross Jones and Clare Grant, we had written many, many lessons to the people
+
+01:04:51.600 --> 01:04:55.040
+who need to know about all these issues, particularly Ross and our children, which I
+
+01:04:55.040 --> 01:04:56.040
+do in 100%.
+
+01:04:56.040 --> 01:04:58.960
+I said, there's absolutely no need for a vaccine.
+
+01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:03.600
+This vaccine, actually, I said, for the beginning, they said only for people over 70 and they
+
+01:05:03.600 --> 01:05:04.600
+were about, they're ill.
+
+01:05:04.680 --> 01:05:08.680
+And when it came down to 4050, I said that, you know, there was no need for that, because
+
+01:05:08.680 --> 01:05:11.400
+we were getting this myocardis, parvitis signal.
+
+01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:13.640
+Why did they carry on persisting going down?
+
+01:05:13.640 --> 01:05:16.480
+Then you ate, that's another, another story.
+
+01:05:16.480 --> 01:05:24.000
+But we reported all this to people like Chris Whitty and the Department of Health, NHS,
+
+01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:29.640
+the MHRA, we basically got no engagement, which I think is an absolutely disgrace given
+
+01:05:29.640 --> 01:05:31.600
+the series of this on it.
+
+01:05:32.160 --> 01:05:37.640
+So I was told to say, haven't you been reported to the counter disinformation, which is set
+
+01:05:37.640 --> 01:05:42.840
+up by the government, the government, and it said, you can do if you go through this
+
+01:05:42.840 --> 01:05:45.640
+particular process, they've got to let you know.
+
+01:05:45.640 --> 01:05:49.960
+And I was told by somebody who had done all this and found that they had been reported
+
+01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:50.960
+for it.
+
+01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:56.640
+So I decided and went through this process, I mean, I suspect I have been reported more
+
+01:05:56.640 --> 01:06:01.480
+times than anybody else, because I started with a virus, I appeared, bang, bang,
+
+01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:05.600
+criticize in the virus, the origin of the virus, lockdown, bang, bang, as I said, lockdown
+
+01:06:05.600 --> 01:06:06.600
+was more ironic.
+
+01:06:06.600 --> 01:06:09.800
+And I said, you should never lock down when you haven't bothered to quarantine.
+
+01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:12.360
+And if quarantine doesn't work, there's no point locked down.
+
+01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.720
+And it never works for airborne diseases, I thought.
+
+01:06:15.720 --> 01:06:21.760
+And the, just as a cancer doctor, I said, you lock down the cancer, that death rate,
+
+01:06:21.760 --> 01:06:26.320
+in six to 12 months or two years, we go through the roof, because they won't be excremed
+
+01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:27.320
+in early treatment.
+
+01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:31.080
+And I pride ourselves, you were bloody good at that, then, but this lockdown, the collapse
+
+01:06:31.080 --> 01:06:35.160
+of the NHS has destroyed that, and it's really, really tragic.
+
+01:06:35.160 --> 01:06:37.240
+So that's pretty bad.
+
+01:06:37.240 --> 01:06:46.800
+Just let me write this down, whoops.
+
+01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:55.320
+Now, there's some contradictions here that I don't like, and they're contradictions that
+
+01:06:55.320 --> 01:07:00.680
+again, I think are part of this cognitive trap, that maybe he's weaving around John
+
+01:07:00.680 --> 01:07:01.680
+Campbell.
+
+01:07:01.680 --> 01:07:06.000
+I don't know, maybe he's just a really, he's a good guy, meaning well, but still fully
+
+01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:09.000
+trapped in the Scooby-Doo.
+
+01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:15.800
+But he definitely believes that the government, this is bad writing here, I had my armchair
+
+01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:16.800
+was bad.
+
+01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:23.440
+The government made it a crime to discuss the vaccine that was told to him by some journalist.
+
+01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:26.760
+And a mainstream journalist.
+
+01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:29.760
+And so he believes that that makes it somehow right.
+
+01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.160
+And so he also definitely, and that's the trick, right?
+
+01:07:32.160 --> 01:07:38.720
+The leaks, secret phone calls, special emails, ooh, a senator called me, a must being that
+
+01:07:38.720 --> 01:07:42.800
+I'm on to something, the senator told me I'm right.
+
+01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:48.120
+So he definitely believes that there's gained a function viruses that it was covered up,
+
+01:07:48.120 --> 01:07:50.280
+and that makes it even more believable.
+
+01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:52.160
+He believes the booster was a bad idea.
+
+01:07:52.160 --> 01:07:58.200
+He said more than three times that two, two shots make sense, but three thousand, that's
+
+01:07:58.200 --> 01:08:04.720
+when I knew it was crazy DNA contamination now it's come up recently in his discussion.
+
+01:08:04.720 --> 01:08:11.160
+And censorship has now reared its ugly head again, as part of the way that he was sure
+
+01:08:11.160 --> 01:08:14.880
+that something wasn't right, which I get.
+
+01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:17.400
+But we still have not mentioned protocols.
+
+01:08:17.400 --> 01:08:22.100
+Campbell hasn't mentioned Madazalam Campbell hasn't mentioned the things that
+
+01:08:22.100 --> 01:08:28.220
+were done in the homes in the UK, he hasn't mentioned one bit about it.
+
+01:08:28.220 --> 01:08:32.860
+Not one bit about PCR fraud, nothing.
+
+01:08:32.860 --> 01:08:36.380
+So that's pretty impressive.
+
+01:08:36.380 --> 01:08:42.260
+Anyway, he said that this is the part that really bothers me.
+
+01:08:42.260 --> 01:08:44.220
+He said that cancer would go through the roof.
+
+01:08:44.220 --> 01:08:49.780
+Sorry, I wanted to finish that.
+
+01:08:49.780 --> 01:09:05.020
+This is very bad because of lack of early screening.
+
+01:09:05.020 --> 01:09:09.100
+So that's not good because that's part of the narrative that a lot of people were laying
+
+01:09:09.100 --> 01:09:13.300
+down at the beginning of the pandemic, including the TV people.
+
+01:09:13.300 --> 01:09:19.140
+And if the TV people were laying this narrative down, then you know it's weird that he's doing
+
+01:09:19.140 --> 01:09:25.620
+it now, reminding you that it might not even be the shot that's bringing all this
+
+01:09:25.620 --> 01:09:31.540
+cancer out, but it's what it's the lack of early screening.
+
+01:09:31.540 --> 01:09:36.940
+And so we're starting to create this illusion now because he also mentioned SV 40 on the
+
+01:09:36.940 --> 01:09:46.220
+other page as being part of promoting cancer and he mentioned DNA integration.
+
+01:09:46.220 --> 01:09:52.060
+And so he says the booster did it, there's contamination and that it can integrate.
+
+01:09:52.060 --> 01:09:56.660
+But then he goes all the way back to the beginning of the pandemic and says because of lack
+
+01:09:56.660 --> 01:10:01.220
+of early screening, there's also going to be all this cancer.
+
+01:10:01.220 --> 01:10:02.820
+So which one is it?
+
+01:10:02.820 --> 01:10:04.020
+Is it both?
+
+01:10:04.020 --> 01:10:05.940
+You're not explaining it very well.
+
+01:10:05.940 --> 01:10:11.300
+And you have interspersed those two ideas with a whole bunch of sidebar about what you
+
+01:10:11.300 --> 01:10:16.740
+got cut out of and what people should have been paying attention to with regard to your
+
+01:10:16.740 --> 01:10:18.740
+research about HIV.
+
+01:10:18.740 --> 01:10:21.700
+Ooh, it's interesting.
+
+01:10:21.700 --> 01:10:22.700
+Wow.
+
+01:10:22.700 --> 01:10:25.940
+I did not expect this to be my evening tonight.
+
+01:10:25.940 --> 01:10:32.340
+I thought that I was going to have a pretty straightforward immunology stream.
+
+01:10:32.340 --> 01:10:33.340
+This is intriguing.
+
+01:10:33.340 --> 01:10:40.460
+That's really one of the things that I was, that one of our letters handed into Rudy
+
+01:10:40.460 --> 01:10:46.180
+Chris Whitty and everybody else, this that and the other, that this resulted in another
+
+01:10:46.180 --> 01:10:49.940
+complaint to the CDU about me the next day.
+
+01:10:49.940 --> 01:10:51.420
+Counter disinformation unit.
+
+01:10:51.420 --> 01:10:53.980
+So what the hell are they doing?
+
+01:10:53.980 --> 01:10:57.820
+As you say, I'm in a far, far better position than any of these people.
+
+01:10:57.820 --> 01:11:05.580
+I can't believe the complete, unbelievable, I got to choose my words very carefully.
+
+01:11:05.580 --> 01:11:10.060
+But to rely on Sage, you better, you get better information from the people running
+
+01:11:10.060 --> 01:11:13.740
+Battersea's Dokom, but they've put their infection control in my view.
+
+01:11:13.740 --> 01:11:15.380
+I mean, I just couldn't believe that.
+
+01:11:15.380 --> 01:11:20.140
+And Chris Whitty, I mean, I cannot believe the astupidity of the statements that he has
+
+01:11:20.140 --> 01:11:21.140
+made right from the beginning.
+
+01:11:21.140 --> 01:11:24.940
+We told him about vitamin D, you know, this, that, the other, and he came back, he had
+
+01:11:24.940 --> 01:11:27.620
+the contact and he says, there's not enough evidence to do anything about it.
+
+01:11:27.620 --> 01:11:31.020
+I mean, not enough evidence that is beyond belief.
+
+01:11:31.020 --> 01:11:32.020
+And then that's true.
+
+01:11:32.020 --> 01:11:33.540
+You know, when we challenge him, that's true.
+
+01:11:33.540 --> 01:11:37.780
+Jason M in the chat says that this may be the first time he's had to vent, that's, that's
+
+01:11:37.780 --> 01:11:38.940
+a legitimate thing.
+
+01:11:38.940 --> 01:11:39.940
+That's right.
+
+01:11:39.940 --> 01:11:43.100
+It could be the first time anybody's ever listened to him.
+
+01:11:43.100 --> 01:11:47.100
+So he's got to say something that that's possible.
+
+01:11:47.100 --> 01:11:49.940
+Who knows what I'll do when I get on Tucker Carlson, right?
+
+01:11:49.940 --> 01:11:55.660
+And he says, oh, you've got to vaccinate the children in order to protect the parents
+
+01:11:55.660 --> 01:11:56.660
+of grandparents.
+
+01:11:56.660 --> 01:11:59.700
+In that last sentence, he re-reals papers of stupidity.
+
+01:11:59.700 --> 01:12:02.580
+First of all, you don't vaccinate people to protect other people.
+
+01:12:02.580 --> 01:12:04.180
+That's the first thing you're wrong.
+
+01:12:04.180 --> 01:12:08.260
+And then by saying to protect the parents and the grandparents that already been subject
+
+01:12:08.260 --> 01:12:12.100
+to this vaccine battering, you've admitted it doesn't work.
+
+01:12:12.100 --> 01:12:13.900
+It's unbelievable.
+
+01:12:13.900 --> 01:12:19.700
+And so, I mean, I've got, I think Chris Whitty said one or two things that made a reasonable
+
+01:12:19.700 --> 01:12:21.540
+sense earlier on.
+
+01:12:21.540 --> 01:12:26.180
+He said, well, you can't really introduce vaccines unless nothing works.
+
+01:12:26.180 --> 01:12:31.900
+And the virus is really lethal, like it kills young people, the third of them, which is
+
+01:12:31.900 --> 01:12:32.900
+absolutely true.
+
+01:12:32.900 --> 01:12:37.420
+So why did the Allow Vaccine program to be rolled out for a disease that only killed
+
+01:12:37.420 --> 01:12:41.860
+old people, in my view, just bought for death by about three months and didn't actually
+
+01:12:41.860 --> 01:12:48.300
+kill anybody else any more than the random viruses, the flus, et cetera, do it.
+
+01:12:48.300 --> 01:12:51.900
+And I think, and I call them this, I think there has to be accountability, you know,
+
+01:12:51.900 --> 01:12:55.460
+that has to be this, um, hallett inquiry.
+
+01:12:55.820 --> 01:12:57.540
+See, but why won't he explain it?
+
+01:12:57.540 --> 01:13:02.820
+Why doesn't he explain that we can, and it might be that we just need to educate John
+
+01:13:02.820 --> 01:13:03.820
+Campbell.
+
+01:13:03.820 --> 01:13:08.020
+We need to educate this guy that the data is there.
+
+01:13:08.020 --> 01:13:11.460
+Denny Rancour, Denny Rancour has the data.
+
+01:13:11.460 --> 01:13:16.900
+He can show that the all-cause mortality doesn't support the spread of a respiratory virus.
+
+01:13:16.900 --> 01:13:20.580
+I don't care what he thinks.
+
+01:13:20.580 --> 01:13:25.060
+And he says the vaccine wasn't necessary unless like it killed the third of the people that
+
+01:13:25.060 --> 01:13:31.980
+had infected, but then think carefully, sir, about what they did.
+
+01:13:31.980 --> 01:13:36.040
+They rolled in all of the deaths that they could.
+
+01:13:36.040 --> 01:13:43.500
+They increased the deaths that they could by discouraging the use of antibiotics to tick
+
+01:13:43.500 --> 01:13:52.340
+a little bit here, discouraging the, the, uh, resuscitation of cardiac patients in New York
+
+01:13:52.380 --> 01:13:58.980
+and other places, encouraging the use of ventilators prematurely in order to stop spread before
+
+01:13:58.980 --> 01:14:02.900
+people needed ventilation.
+
+01:14:02.900 --> 01:14:06.780
+This, this is what they're missing.
+
+01:14:06.780 --> 01:14:07.980
+And they're right on the cusp.
+
+01:14:07.980 --> 01:14:13.460
+If they could just understand that, okay, now realize that you don't need a particularly
+
+01:14:13.460 --> 01:14:14.620
+dangerous virus.
+
+01:14:14.620 --> 01:14:21.980
+You need a particularly well-oiled machine capable of delivering this fear around the
+
+01:14:21.980 --> 01:14:30.620
+world at exactly the same time, with the exact same precision in met and messaging
+
+01:14:30.620 --> 01:14:34.900
+so that everybody stopped using antibiotics, so that everybody started ventilating, so
+
+01:14:34.900 --> 01:14:40.780
+that everybody panicked, so that everybody shut down.
+
+01:14:40.780 --> 01:14:47.580
+And the use of revdesivir, the use of medazolam, the use of all of these tricks resulted in
+
+01:14:47.580 --> 01:14:55.940
+more people dying in the hospital than should have and being tallied to COVID.
+
+01:14:55.940 --> 01:15:03.500
+If it didn't result in more all-cause mortality, it just means that there was enough deadwood
+
+01:15:03.500 --> 01:15:12.020
+from previous years so that it didn't raise the expectations, the expected age of death
+
+01:15:12.020 --> 01:15:17.540
+was actually higher in the pandemic.
+
+01:15:17.540 --> 01:15:24.460
+Because of the nature of that sort of top-heavy population pyramid that we had, they're talking
+
+01:15:24.460 --> 01:15:29.740
+about none of this, but we can get them there.
+
+01:15:29.740 --> 01:15:34.980
+The vaccine wasn't necessary, he knows it wasn't necessary, he knows it didn't work.
+
+01:15:34.980 --> 01:15:39.900
+But now, if he also has somebody in the government that says we can't run a vaccine unless A,
+
+01:15:39.900 --> 01:15:46.620
+B, and C, then he also could realize, it's possible he could realize.
+
+01:15:46.620 --> 01:15:51.020
+And John Campbell, therefore, could realize that wait, in order to get A, B, and C they
+
+01:15:51.020 --> 01:15:55.700
+might've done something, in order to get A, B, and C might've been the reason why the
+
+01:15:55.700 --> 01:16:01.340
+protocols were changed, in order to get A, B, and C, that might've been the reason why
+
+01:16:01.340 --> 01:16:06.660
+they use medazolam, John Campbell, in order to get A, B, and C that might've been the
+
+01:16:06.660 --> 01:16:11.420
+reason why they use revdesivir in America, John Campbell.
+
+01:16:11.420 --> 01:16:16.460
+In order to get A, B, and C that might've been the reason why they lied about what happened
+
+01:16:16.460 --> 01:16:23.060
+New York it actually should be feet to the line this was you were on it was in
+
+01:16:23.060 --> 01:16:27.740
+your watch your charge all this stuff now is because you didn't do things and I
+
+01:16:27.740 --> 01:16:32.300
+think why didn't witty resign why didn't balance resign they're all they're
+
+01:16:32.300 --> 01:16:37.700
+like hello all of this is also because of John Campbell who did nothing but
+
+01:16:37.700 --> 01:16:41.060
+encourage people to take the shot it's all because of him because he didn't
+
+01:16:41.060 --> 01:16:47.700
+get out there earlier where's his YouTube channel you see what I'm talking
+
+01:16:47.700 --> 01:16:52.900
+about here it's very easy to throw mud now but I'm what unless you're willing to
+
+01:16:52.900 --> 01:16:58.500
+say that you were also involved like I have been saying it repeatedly the
+
+01:16:58.500 --> 01:17:05.660
+lab leak the lab leak the lab leak was me for a couple months but I came to my
+
+01:17:05.660 --> 01:17:20.420
+senses in May of 2020 not in in in October of 2023 and there has to be some
+
+01:17:20.420 --> 01:17:24.820
+acknowledgement that if any of these people like John Campbell could have
+
+01:17:24.820 --> 01:17:30.900
+come to their senses in 2021 we could have avoided this in 2020 it would have
+
+01:17:30.900 --> 01:17:38.660
+been even better but then maybe he'd have just been thrown off a YouTube this
+
+01:17:38.660 --> 01:17:43.380
+is what we're dealing with right now this is how the the the narrative gets
+
+01:17:43.380 --> 01:17:49.500
+rolled up they've used this football has passed in the ball around the back because
+
+01:17:49.500 --> 01:17:52.780
+it can't be bothered to sort the female properly it just passed past they're
+
+01:17:52.780 --> 01:17:57.060
+blaming everybody else I mean I think it's a query is it's just a fast but a
+
+01:17:57.060 --> 01:18:02.140
+whitewash and by the time they come to any conclusions the people will go on
+
+01:18:02.140 --> 01:18:05.300
+for so long they'll have forgotten what it was all about and the people would be
+
+01:18:05.300 --> 01:18:10.900
+completely retired or dead or god knows this is all and I think they should be
+
+01:18:10.900 --> 01:18:14.500
+the people who should have intervened because they they were daily immune
+
+01:18:14.500 --> 01:18:17.220
+about things and if they didn't they should have got the right people didn't
+
+01:18:17.220 --> 01:18:23.300
+reside hmm go back to your patients professor with the melanoma there's
+
+01:18:23.300 --> 01:18:27.700
+this perturbation in the immune system now have you seen aggressive is the melanoma
+
+01:18:27.700 --> 01:18:33.180
+become more aggressive more sort of more virulent melanoma as a result of the
+
+01:18:33.180 --> 01:18:37.820
+perturbations which may well include the vaccine completely in fact it's my
+
+01:18:37.820 --> 01:18:41.660
+colleagues who came up with the saying we're seeing this too it's absolutely
+
+01:18:41.660 --> 01:18:46.100
+explosive they point this work explosive and my colorectal colleagues have seen
+
+01:18:46.100 --> 01:18:50.300
+this now they're talking about explosive presentations of colorectal cancer in
+
+01:18:50.300 --> 01:18:53.460
+young people particularly like they've never seen before can I just say that I
+
+01:18:53.460 --> 01:18:57.940
+wish you would stop saying explosive colorectal cancer I don't know why he has
+
+01:18:57.940 --> 01:19:04.420
+to keep saying that anyway it was one of those that the integration of the spike
+
+01:19:04.420 --> 01:19:08.420
+protein in their shoe it's almost like a new disease explosive colorectal cancer
+
+01:19:08.420 --> 01:19:14.660
+of the young yeah so they are presenting and it's already in the liver and the
+
+01:19:14.660 --> 01:19:18.260
+lymph nodes for the lungs whereas normally it's already metastasized yeah
+
+01:19:18.260 --> 01:19:22.900
+this is a process that when you put them under pressure it gradually escapes
+
+01:19:22.900 --> 01:19:28.700
+there's a slow process in most people explosive is extremely unusual and the
+
+01:19:28.700 --> 01:19:35.180
+colorectal surgeons are all reporting this now is have you seen any cases that you
+
+01:19:35.180 --> 01:19:41.300
+probably wouldn't expect of lymphoma cancer of the lymphatic system oh absolutely
+
+01:19:41.300 --> 01:19:46.820
+not I mean I don't do lymphomas in the clinic so that's the first thing but I'm
+
+01:19:46.820 --> 01:19:51.380
+hearing people who after their booster vaccines have gone down that with
+
+01:19:51.380 --> 01:19:55.020
+lumps in the neck and things like that and I found that a colleague worked
+
+01:19:55.020 --> 01:19:59.180
+somewhere else completely and I bumped into my eyes said you know how are you
+
+01:19:59.180 --> 01:20:03.260
+I said oh I'm okay but I've developed some lumps in my neck and they've been
+
+01:20:03.260 --> 01:20:08.820
+diagnosed as lymphoma and I just trying to be sympathetic so what earth calls
+
+01:20:08.820 --> 01:20:13.100
+that and the patient says oh apparently it's due to the vaccine might that's what
+
+01:20:13.100 --> 01:20:17.260
+my oncologist said and I said but this is the reaction I'll get it everywhere
+
+01:20:17.260 --> 01:20:22.100
+and yet when we report it higher up the chain we're told it's only going to
+
+01:20:22.100 --> 01:20:27.300
+shut up and not cause panic amongst the patient any rate that person told me
+
+01:20:27.300 --> 01:20:33.060
+that three of her friends out of the couple of dozen had all had the same
+
+01:20:33.060 --> 01:20:37.260
+thing it was quite amazing then I found somebody else lymphoma is not
+
+01:20:37.260 --> 01:20:42.260
+something that we're gonna test for very much but given the talk to we heard
+
+01:20:42.260 --> 01:20:47.580
+from Drew Weisman which was only like a year old yesterday where he said he was
+
+01:20:47.580 --> 01:20:53.660
+really excited about how easy it was to target the lymph nodes and again I said
+
+01:20:53.660 --> 01:20:59.500
+yesterday night and I'll say it again transfecting a bunch of T cells it just
+
+01:20:59.500 --> 01:21:05.220
+can't be the it can't be the goal of any therapy that's designed to use fully
+
+01:21:05.220 --> 01:21:11.020
+augment the immune system that just makes no sense I mean it really makes no
+
+01:21:11.020 --> 01:21:19.300
+sense that you could show those pictures to a room full of biologists and people
+
+01:21:19.300 --> 01:21:25.860
+wouldn't be like now my only my only claim here is that I wasn't in that room I
+
+01:21:25.860 --> 01:21:30.580
+wasn't around during a talk like that had I been around during a talk like that
+
+01:21:30.580 --> 01:21:36.260
+when I was in in academia still I would have said something I've done it many
+
+01:21:36.260 --> 01:21:48.140
+times and in that case that is just absurd it is absolutely absurd that you
+
+01:21:48.140 --> 01:21:55.020
+can show a glow-in-the-dark staining lymph node and say look what we can do
+
+01:21:55.980 --> 01:22:01.340
+and that's a good idea show up a section of Baron Mabone marrow and say look
+
+01:22:01.340 --> 01:22:08.300
+what we can do as if that's a good idea as if that is a useful way to augment the
+
+01:22:08.300 --> 01:22:16.580
+immune system now you can make a little mouse model that has one readout or three
+
+01:22:16.580 --> 01:22:22.020
+readouts that can all be translated into a bar graph and show that the changes in
+
+01:22:22.020 --> 01:22:27.540
+those readouts are in the general direction of a therapeutic that might
+
+01:22:27.540 --> 01:22:32.580
+be useful but in a mouse that doesn't mean anything because we can make knockout
+
+01:22:32.580 --> 01:22:40.420
+mice because we can make transgenic mice we can make pre-driven genetic
+
+01:22:40.420 --> 01:22:47.780
+altered mice we can't do that with most other mammals
+
+01:22:48.540 --> 01:22:56.700
+we're talking about genetic mice you know genetically inbred mice you can't
+
+01:22:56.700 --> 01:23:04.300
+genetically in breed humans I just don't know what to say ladies and gentlemen
+
+01:23:04.300 --> 01:23:10.060
+but we're dealing with something here where there is an illusion most of the
+
+01:23:10.060 --> 01:23:19.540
+people who mean well are still under its spell I was only able to to start to
+
+01:23:19.540 --> 01:23:24.580
+become aware of this illusion a few years ago it's not like I knew what this was
+
+01:23:24.580 --> 01:23:30.980
+the pandemic saved me it probably saved a lot of you and now we need to use the
+
+01:23:30.980 --> 01:23:35.860
+pandemic to save these guys because they're there they're on their way out of the
+
+01:23:35.900 --> 01:23:40.980
+cave they know that something is wrong they shouldn't see these kinds of
+
+01:23:40.980 --> 01:23:44.220
+cancers they shouldn't see it in this frequency they shouldn't see it in this
+
+01:23:44.220 --> 01:23:49.780
+young and there shouldn't be a temporal correlation with a particular therapeutic
+
+01:23:49.780 --> 01:23:56.420
+exposure but it is there is a temporal correlation with a therapeutic exposure
+
+01:23:56.420 --> 01:24:04.860
+to a vaccine candidate transfection that the maker itself was bragging about not
+
+01:24:04.900 --> 01:24:10.380
+ten months ago about how these preparations of lipid nanoparticles and
+
+01:24:10.380 --> 01:24:18.300
+mRNA are very easily targeted to the lymph node to the bone marrow they go
+
+01:24:18.300 --> 01:24:28.620
+all over the body locally and had a lymphoma diagnosis then I found my a
+
+01:24:29.100 --> 01:24:34.060
+close member of the family developed a leukemia and that was after the booster
+
+01:24:34.060 --> 01:24:39.820
+vaccine now here I want to point out that quite a few people especially my
+
+01:24:39.820 --> 01:24:47.820
+agent etc probably have low-grade B cell disease lymphomas leukemias
+
+01:24:47.820 --> 01:24:53.780
+etc my lomas and yes and it's maintained under control because it was a good
+
+01:24:53.780 --> 01:24:59.180
+healthy T cell surveillance it keeps it under control so when you give a booster
+
+01:24:59.180 --> 01:25:03.540
+and you start to find these B cell hemias and things coming more common you
+
+01:25:03.540 --> 01:25:06.940
+don't have to look hard to work out what the packet genesis is I why they
+
+01:25:06.940 --> 01:25:11.460
+suddenly appear but my other colleagues are pointing out that they're seeing
+
+01:25:11.460 --> 01:25:16.180
+more renal cancer too a lot more renal cancer now renal cancer in my loma
+
+01:25:16.180 --> 01:25:20.340
+we're always loved together as being tumors that seem to respond to immune
+
+01:25:20.420 --> 01:25:25.380
+therapy but you know they were both both the ones that responded to interferon
+
+01:25:25.380 --> 01:25:29.860
+and interlinked to you before we had specific therapy so that again would
+
+01:25:29.860 --> 01:25:36.260
+fit the T cell perturbation control theory and are we talking about what
+
+01:25:36.260 --> 01:25:40.700
+sorts of leukemia is potentially are we talking about here well B cell ones so
+
+01:25:40.700 --> 01:25:44.460
+I mean one of the ones specifically had its array of subtypes called
+
+01:25:44.460 --> 01:25:50.500
+mandrel cell that all fits into the more chronic remind me please is that
+
+01:25:50.500 --> 01:25:56.460
+the myloid type yes yeah right thank you yeah now you mentioned before about the
+
+01:25:56.460 --> 01:26:02.520
+the the SS 40 now that this is the Simeon virus I think isn't it Simeon
+
+01:26:02.520 --> 01:26:07.860
+virus 40 I'm a right in thinking that that coincidentally in infects monkey
+
+01:26:07.860 --> 01:26:13.380
+kidney cells which are cultured to and then those cell cultures are used to
+
+01:26:13.380 --> 01:26:16.100
+make the DNA which is then used to make the RNA which is in the vaccine does
+
+01:26:16.100 --> 01:26:22.460
+that the way it works I am not in theory yes yeah I'm not completely
+
+01:26:22.460 --> 01:26:27.780
+okay was in the vacuum kidney cells which is the Simeon virus now you mentioned
+
+01:26:27.780 --> 01:26:34.540
+before about the the SS 40 now that this is the Simeon virus I think isn't
+
+01:26:34.540 --> 01:26:38.460
+it Simeon virus 40 I'm a right in thinking that that coincidentally in
+
+01:26:38.460 --> 01:26:44.780
+infects monkey kidney cells which are cultured to and then those cell
+
+01:26:44.780 --> 01:26:47.900
+cultures are used to make the DNA which is then used to make the RNA which is in
+
+01:26:47.900 --> 01:26:57.620
+the vaccine is that the way it works I am not I don't know that that's the case
+
+01:26:57.620 --> 01:27:05.580
+would they use monkey kidney cells to make the DNA that is then grown in the
+
+01:27:05.580 --> 01:27:13.580
+bacteria I think they print the DNA I think they just made that DNA from from
+
+01:27:13.580 --> 01:27:19.940
+like synthetic so that it's super pure and then they couldn't create the whole
+
+01:27:19.940 --> 01:27:25.700
+construct and then they put that in I don't think that they use monkey kidney
+
+01:27:25.700 --> 01:27:34.060
+cells to do it I think that's incorrect and SV 40 the virus is different than
+
+01:27:34.060 --> 01:27:41.100
+the SV 40 promoter and the SV 40 promoter is used in the plasmid it is
+
+01:27:41.100 --> 01:27:46.780
+not the whole virus it is the start sequence that makes sure that the the
+
+01:27:46.780 --> 01:27:52.820
+bacteria makes many many many copies of the plasmid that contains it I think
+
+01:27:52.820 --> 01:27:56.580
+it's related to the origin of replication but it's not the origin of
+
+01:27:56.580 --> 01:28:01.740
+replicate could be the origin of replication I don't know SV 40 may be
+
+01:28:01.820 --> 01:28:06.700
+the origin of it but it's also just a promoter type thing like a signal that
+
+01:28:06.700 --> 01:28:12.420
+that tells the bacteria to make many copies of the plasmid so I'm not I'm
+
+01:28:12.420 --> 01:28:15.660
+pretty sure they're they're getting this confused but it'll go in theory yes
+
+01:28:15.660 --> 01:28:22.740
+yeah I'm not completely okay with how they are doing it I mean it's a commercial
+
+01:28:22.740 --> 01:28:27.660
+secret yeah now you find these sequences in both files are a Moderna you can
+
+01:28:27.660 --> 01:28:32.980
+start but I mean if it was just in one batch I think they need to be very
+
+01:28:32.980 --> 01:28:37.300
+careful here because they basically said that monkey kidney cells were used in
+
+01:28:37.300 --> 01:28:42.780
+the production of the vaccine and so what they're gonna do is they're gonna
+
+01:28:42.780 --> 01:28:47.220
+create this thing where then somebody can easily debunk them and say see John
+
+01:28:47.220 --> 01:28:51.300
+Campbell's an idiot he doesn't know what he's talking about monkey kidney cells
+
+01:28:51.300 --> 01:28:55.860
+would never use to make the DNA the DNA was made pure with synthetic processes
+
+01:28:55.860 --> 01:29:02.620
+they just printed it see how dumb John Campbell is now I'm not saying that I'm
+
+01:29:02.620 --> 01:29:08.820
+saying that what this sets up is for somebody to say that some some armchair
+
+01:29:08.820 --> 01:29:17.140
+youtuber debunker like debunk the funk can take this one clip and dunk on him
+
+01:29:17.460 --> 01:29:28.540
+do you see it it's really dangerous this is so bad this is how fragile are our
+
+01:29:28.540 --> 01:29:32.780
+statuses right now and how easily the cards can come down that's why I think
+
+01:29:32.780 --> 01:29:38.380
+it's a real trap to think that John Campbell is actually waking up he's got
+
+01:29:38.380 --> 01:29:42.860
+this guy on here but he's not pushing back against him at all he's deferring
+
+01:29:42.860 --> 01:29:46.860
+to his expertise even though there's lots of times here when he could have
+
+01:29:46.860 --> 01:29:54.060
+pushed back find this guy's email for me I'll see if I can get him on my stream
+
+01:29:54.060 --> 01:30:01.020
+that they'll join but you know I'll dry whoops whoops what the hell
+
+01:30:01.020 --> 01:30:05.780
+it's somebody a very early on various you pointed out that there were terrible
+
+01:30:05.780 --> 01:30:09.780
+side effects in some people even in the first and second years and then they
+
+01:30:09.780 --> 01:30:14.260
+found that there was a massive difference in the batches and so if
+
+01:30:14.260 --> 01:30:17.560
+there was three big batches one batch would be responsible for 90% of the side
+
+01:30:17.560 --> 01:30:22.500
+effects yeah so we know then this is a big quality control issue going on and
+
+01:30:22.500 --> 01:30:26.660
+so if as they say they find these sequences in lots of different batches it
+
+01:30:26.660 --> 01:30:31.740
+does that's just I think one of the bacteria used is E. coli which of course
+
+01:30:31.740 --> 01:30:34.320
+is what we call a gram-negative and if there's any contamination from the
+
+01:30:34.320 --> 01:30:37.780
+gram-negative cell walls that would make people that would make people pretty
+
+01:30:37.860 --> 01:30:47.460
+ill as well if that was the case I'm that's the endotoxin which we have
+
+01:30:47.460 --> 01:30:57.420
+heard we have heard Josh Getzko on this guy's program talk about that we've
+
+01:30:57.420 --> 01:31:02.820
+also heard Robert Malone talk about how he solved the endotoxin problem many
+
+01:31:02.900 --> 01:31:09.260
+years ago when he was trying to develop this technology interesting right we
+
+01:31:09.260 --> 01:31:12.940
+know for sure I mean I remember it very distinctly that he said that in that
+
+01:31:12.940 --> 01:31:19.620
+interview with with Vage on health Philip McMillan just a couple days ago I
+
+01:31:19.620 --> 01:31:24.380
+know I've been going for 34 days straight but I can remember what I did and I
+
+01:31:24.380 --> 01:31:27.780
+remember what we listened to and that's why this work is paying off because it
+
+01:31:27.780 --> 01:31:31.380
+seems like we're wasting our time watching the same thing over and over
+
+01:31:31.500 --> 01:31:36.420
+again but we're actually not what we're doing is we're catching people in lies
+
+01:31:36.420 --> 01:31:42.540
+because when you're lying it's hard to keep things straight and the more you
+
+01:31:42.540 --> 01:31:46.860
+see how people can't keep things straight the more it is easy to see that they
+
+01:31:46.860 --> 01:31:54.380
+must have been lying that and again I'm not talking about the present video but
+
+01:31:54.380 --> 01:31:59.380
+I am I need you to be cautioned into thinking that John Campbell has been
+
+01:31:59.380 --> 01:32:04.500
+awakened even if he's awake to the transfection being dangerous he's not
+
+01:32:04.500 --> 01:32:13.420
+awake to the sum total of of lies plus protocols equals very little virus he's
+
+01:32:13.420 --> 01:32:20.740
+still under the assumption that people were saved but there was contamination
+
+01:32:20.740 --> 01:32:26.060
+and the contamination could explain all of what this brother professor is saying
+
+01:32:26.060 --> 01:32:31.540
+if John Campbell wants to lean that way if that's the confirmation that he's
+
+01:32:31.540 --> 01:32:36.780
+looking for this professor is giving him all the ammunition he needs to confirm
+
+01:32:36.780 --> 01:32:45.340
+that well it could be the transfection but you know it's this DNA contamination
+
+01:32:45.340 --> 01:32:50.620
+is definitely bad I mean why are we talking about the
+
+01:32:50.620 --> 01:32:54.460
+transfection going to the lymph nodes right now they must know that they could
+
+01:32:54.460 --> 01:33:00.100
+know that he's been against this for so many months or years he must have looked
+
+01:33:00.100 --> 01:33:06.460
+into it too could find the same videos and descriptions that we have where it
+
+01:33:06.460 --> 01:33:10.540
+goes to the lymph node he's an immunologist what is he thinks gonna happen he
+
+01:33:10.540 --> 01:33:18.220
+described it earlier in the video you might remember to harness half the
+
+01:33:18.220 --> 01:33:25.660
+immune system with this shot can't be a good idea he said to harness half the
+
+01:33:25.660 --> 01:33:32.140
+immune system sounds a lot like transfecting a lymph node and all the cells
+
+01:33:32.140 --> 01:33:38.420
+in it doesn't it yee that idea concerned dramatically concerned about what you've
+
+01:33:38.420 --> 01:33:45.900
+seen already what possible implications could this have for cancers emerging
+
+01:33:45.900 --> 01:33:52.700
+over the next few years well obviously I'm aware of quite a few patients who
+
+01:33:52.700 --> 01:33:56.420
+mean bullied into having booster and then have the booster just to be safe
+
+01:33:56.420 --> 01:34:00.420
+because you're at risk I think this is highly unethical because and I have seen
+
+01:34:00.420 --> 01:34:05.700
+it a communication you are required to contact your GP immediately and arrange
+
+01:34:05.700 --> 01:34:10.980
+for another booster and things like that that is totally unethical it's non-GMC
+
+01:34:10.980 --> 01:34:15.260
+compliant in fact it's nearly Nuremberg Charlotte territory yeah because there's
+
+01:34:15.300 --> 01:34:19.660
+no informed consent there's not even any justification but the boosters going to
+
+01:34:19.660 --> 01:34:24.100
+do these patients any good in fact completely to the contrary and the big
+
+01:34:24.100 --> 01:34:27.620
+thing is that they they wanted you to have the vaccine and better protect
+
+01:34:27.620 --> 01:34:31.140
+everybody else it doesn't protect infection at all from the Cleveland
+
+01:34:31.140 --> 01:34:37.660
+study I know the big Cleveland study was updated it most as I've dated in
+
+01:34:37.660 --> 01:34:40.500
+September and they've confirmed if you have the booster you have three and a
+
+01:34:40.500 --> 01:34:45.140
+half guys more like to get COVID and if you don't so I would put that into
+
+01:34:45.140 --> 01:34:50.500
+grievous bodily arm territory not a necessary medical prophylactic treatment
+
+01:34:50.500 --> 01:34:54.660
+territory I mean the way in terms of what you want to do that and the only way that
+
+01:34:54.660 --> 01:34:58.460
+that is causing them to be three and a half times that's an interesting idea
+
+01:34:58.460 --> 01:35:03.900
+that that if you could show that the recommendation of the CDC actually led
+
+01:35:03.900 --> 01:35:08.900
+to more danger for the people who took the shots maybe you can blame it on them
+
+01:35:08.900 --> 01:35:13.540
+that's interesting and I don't think it's a pretty very ridiculous idea because
+
+01:35:13.540 --> 01:35:18.140
+again like this guy has been good at pointing out and what I think I was
+
+01:35:18.140 --> 01:35:22.660
+ranting about yesterday with regard to Drew Weismann's presentation about
+
+01:35:22.660 --> 01:35:30.020
+antibodies and activation of the immune system and and transfection or delivery
+
+01:35:30.020 --> 01:35:36.060
+of RNA in different places in the body the idea that unequivocally more is
+
+01:35:36.100 --> 01:35:42.620
+better in all cases and that the bigger difference between previous attempts at
+
+01:35:42.620 --> 01:35:48.100
+augmenting the immune system and this one with one metric was somehow a sign of
+
+01:35:48.100 --> 01:35:55.540
+superiority and what that that that whole argument belies is a gross
+
+01:35:55.540 --> 01:36:00.940
+underestimating of the complexity of the immune system what that that
+
+01:36:00.940 --> 01:36:06.100
+misrepresentation belies is a complete misunderstanding of how the immune system
+
+01:36:06.100 --> 01:36:11.740
+probably works and this guy seems to know more than Drew Weismann but doesn't
+
+01:36:11.740 --> 01:36:17.580
+really seem to be keen on really laying it out which is fine because maybe this
+
+01:36:17.580 --> 01:36:21.660
+is the first time he's been out there and it's got a lot of things he wants to
+
+01:36:21.660 --> 01:36:27.300
+say but we can be critical as we watch it and so that's why I'm drawing your
+
+01:36:27.300 --> 01:36:31.980
+attention to these things well likely is that it has perturbated the immune system
+
+01:36:31.980 --> 01:36:35.100
+and all the liars have said it's used its resources to fight viruses that don't
+
+01:36:35.100 --> 01:36:39.580
+exist it's making lots of useless antibodies which are actually contrary
+
+01:36:39.580 --> 01:36:44.700
+not to fighting viruses that don't exist means that it evolved to not have the
+
+01:36:44.700 --> 01:36:49.620
+original spike protein I think that's what he means so take that also with a
+
+01:36:49.620 --> 01:36:54.260
+grain of salt between to another one called antibody dependent in Harlan and
+
+01:36:54.260 --> 01:36:58.740
+the same Cleveland that they had reported that they the vaccine companies
+
+01:36:58.740 --> 01:37:03.260
+say ah but this is a great technology because all the new variants we can make
+
+01:37:03.260 --> 01:37:07.700
+a new vaccine for and give you the new variants and we can give you two variants at once
+
+01:37:07.700 --> 01:37:13.900
+there is no evidence that that protects you whatsoever in fact in all the
+
+01:37:13.900 --> 01:37:18.620
+mice work there's evidence that we'll actually do more harm by doing and so
+
+01:37:18.620 --> 01:37:21.300
+first of all this type of virus we have antibody dependent on the heart
+
+01:37:21.300 --> 01:37:25.820
+which I think is clearly going on yeah but secondly to explain why they're so
+
+01:37:25.820 --> 01:37:30.180
+useless is that I published with some other colleagues because there's a
+
+01:37:30.180 --> 01:37:32.700
+completely different group from the origin of the virus going over the
+
+01:37:32.700 --> 01:37:37.020
+secrets of finding out these of all we genetically put in I publish with
+
+01:37:37.020 --> 01:37:40.900
+another set of colleagues is what the history of coronavirus vaccine is and
+
+01:37:40.900 --> 01:37:44.500
+what lessons can be learned from it the lessons that can be learned from it is
+
+01:37:44.500 --> 01:37:48.740
+no coronavirus vaccine is ever been shown to be of any use at all and that's
+
+01:37:49.300 --> 01:37:55.500
+what I was saying in 2020 in May there was never a coronavirus vaccine that's
+
+01:37:55.500 --> 01:38:01.140
+ever worked not in veterinary science not in a laboratory model it's never
+
+01:38:01.140 --> 01:38:07.860
+worked and so there was no reason to believe that this would work now to the
+
+01:38:07.860 --> 01:38:13.500
+contrary one of the motivating factors of Ralph Barracks laboratory in the
+
+01:38:13.500 --> 01:38:19.620
+beginning was to use coronaviruses because of their harmless nature because
+
+01:38:19.620 --> 01:38:24.820
+of their ability to fly under the radar because our immune system ignored them
+
+01:38:24.820 --> 01:38:34.860
+they might be useful for molecular techniques for medical use extraordinary
+
+01:38:34.860 --> 01:38:39.140
+they don't have one for the cult and more importantly they would love one the
+
+01:38:39.140 --> 01:38:44.060
+next would love them but they just don't they just don't work and the main
+
+01:38:44.060 --> 01:38:48.100
+reason they don't they don't work is the coronavirus has had this phenomenon
+
+01:38:48.100 --> 01:38:52.780
+once they became system seen it it locks in it's called immunological imprinting
+
+01:38:52.780 --> 01:38:56.900
+or antigenic sin so when you do any variation all you do is boost the
+
+01:38:56.900 --> 01:39:01.220
+response to the person and that would explain why they're so useless and why
+
+01:39:01.220 --> 01:39:06.100
+they're letting all other other variants in through the back door and other
+
+01:39:06.100 --> 01:39:09.100
+people have said that we probably wouldn't have to see that I think is a
+
+01:39:09.100 --> 01:39:12.300
+really it's not a good enough explanation so I'm just getting it
+
+01:39:12.300 --> 01:39:17.780
+rough him again I'm gonna make my my image a little bigger what he should be
+
+01:39:17.780 --> 01:39:25.260
+saying is that if we instruct the immune system to pay attention to parts of the
+
+01:39:25.260 --> 01:39:30.580
+coronavirus which are not functionally constrained then we will instruct the
+
+01:39:30.580 --> 01:39:35.620
+immune system to make memory to a changing target and our immune system
+
+01:39:35.620 --> 01:39:41.020
+doesn't do that normally and when our immune system makes mistakes is when it
+
+01:39:41.020 --> 01:39:49.060
+does make memory to self proteins or to a moving target and so part of what the
+
+01:39:49.060 --> 01:39:55.300
+immune system has evolved to do is select epitopes from the antigen that
+
+01:39:55.300 --> 01:40:04.380
+seem to be functionally constrained that are related related related to previous
+
+01:40:04.380 --> 01:40:12.700
+epitopes previous proteins that have been seen your body has a mechanism which
+
+01:40:12.700 --> 01:40:16.020
+I can't explain because I don't adequately understand but I assure you
+
+01:40:16.020 --> 01:40:25.020
+it's there to use the catalog of previously memorized epitopes in
+
+01:40:25.020 --> 01:40:30.860
+functionally constrained proteins of other entities like this RNA virus
+
+01:40:30.860 --> 01:40:39.940
+whatever it is and those epitopes are from this most the immune system is
+
+01:40:39.940 --> 01:40:45.140
+designed to first select from those rather than to augment and awaken new
+
+01:40:45.140 --> 01:40:53.020
+ones and we're awakening new naive de novo memories in the immune system is
+
+01:40:53.020 --> 01:40:59.180
+much more complex than augmenting previously activated and already
+
+01:40:59.180 --> 01:41:06.660
+crescendo de crescendo memories that are stored in the immune system and those
+
+01:41:06.660 --> 01:41:10.660
+are two very different processes that vaccinologists never talk about that
+
+01:41:10.660 --> 01:41:14.100
+these people that sell this stuff never talk about that these guys aren't talking
+
+01:41:14.100 --> 01:41:20.820
+about so we've got to be always on top of this but this imprinting thing is
+
+01:41:20.820 --> 01:41:26.780
+important but he could also point out that there are there are genes and there
+
+01:41:26.820 --> 01:41:32.460
+are sections of the genome that whether you believe in the coronavirus biology
+
+01:41:32.460 --> 01:41:38.660
+per se or not the primary literature that occurs before 2020 shows clearly
+
+01:41:38.660 --> 01:41:44.260
+that there are parts of this virus that don't change and therefore can be used
+
+01:41:44.260 --> 01:41:50.660
+as targets in a pan coronavirus PCR test that's the end protein that's the RNA
+
+01:41:50.660 --> 01:41:55.420
+dependent RNA polymerase and for years that's how we found all coronaviruses is
+
+01:41:55.460 --> 01:42:02.220
+looking for the things they share in common and your immune system has taken
+
+01:42:02.220 --> 01:42:06.260
+the same strategy in developing whatever immunity is necessary in order to cope
+
+01:42:06.260 --> 01:42:13.660
+with coronaviruses the least memory possible the immune system tries to
+
+01:42:13.660 --> 01:42:21.220
+respond the least memory possible it's become very obvious to me that this idea
+
+01:42:21.300 --> 01:42:25.700
+of forcing the immune system to make a robust memory to something is exactly
+
+01:42:25.700 --> 01:42:33.180
+antithetical to how the immune system works you're trying to avoid a cascade
+
+01:42:33.180 --> 01:42:39.380
+you're trying to get the least amount of memory formed the least amount of
+
+01:42:39.380 --> 01:42:47.140
+activation to cope with every threat to maintain inside from out we're gonna
+
+01:42:47.140 --> 01:42:50.420
+learn how to teach this immune system better than it's ever been taught before
+
+01:42:51.060 --> 01:42:55.340
+and that's how we're going to change the world because when people understand
+
+01:42:55.340 --> 01:43:00.300
+that their immune system has been made dumb simple in order to pray upon us in
+
+01:43:00.300 --> 01:43:08.660
+order to get us to sign up as unhealthy test subjects so that eventually our
+
+01:43:08.660 --> 01:43:16.140
+grandchildren will be born into a system like that once you understand we're
+
+01:43:16.140 --> 01:43:19.860
+going to be free I've had the problem with the variants it hadn't been for the
+
+01:43:19.860 --> 01:43:24.620
+vaccine program in the first place which in retrospect everybody said well at
+
+01:43:24.620 --> 01:43:33.220
+least to protect it loads of people but I don't even buy that anymore because it
+
+01:43:33.220 --> 01:43:37.340
+came in when everything was dying out and new variants were being induced
+
+01:43:37.340 --> 01:43:42.620
+probably by the vaccine so you know one of them I can tell you that I'm gonna
+
+01:43:42.620 --> 01:43:47.820
+have Denny Rancour on the show again he just sent me his newest paper and that
+
+01:43:47.820 --> 01:43:59.460
+paper is pretty cool because it deals with taking this claim of the of the
+
+01:44:00.020 --> 01:44:16.620
+it takes there it is it this is his
+
+01:44:16.620 --> 01:44:21.020
+substantive evaluation of whether the Nobel Prize winning COVID-19 vaccines
+
+01:44:21.020 --> 01:44:29.100
+actually saved lives and if you take a look at the article you will see
+
+01:44:29.940 --> 01:44:36.460
+that if you throw in the numbers and what what Denny has which is really
+
+01:44:36.460 --> 01:44:41.060
+cool is that he has in this gray line here so the blue line is the actual more
+
+01:44:41.060 --> 01:44:47.380
+to all cause mortality the gray line is the rollout of the vaccines from zero to
+
+01:44:47.380 --> 01:44:54.220
+you know all the vaccines are out and so in order for between 14 million and
+
+01:44:54.220 --> 01:44:59.900
+19 million people to have been saved by the vaccine it would have to have been
+
+01:44:59.900 --> 01:45:03.660
+saved after the rollout of the vaccine right so that's what Denny has here in
+
+01:45:03.660 --> 01:45:09.900
+this time frame is that the rollout of the vaccine is the gray numbers and what we
+
+01:45:09.900 --> 01:45:14.180
+are supposed to have avoided is the red number then because the red number would
+
+01:45:14.180 --> 01:45:18.740
+be 14 million people on top of the all-cause mortality that we have here and as
+
+01:45:18.820 --> 01:45:24.660
+you know the blue already shows increases in all cause mortality that
+
+01:45:24.660 --> 01:45:29.420
+aren't due to COVID but are seem to be due to the shot rollout but now we see
+
+01:45:29.420 --> 01:45:36.660
+the preposterous nature of the claim that the vaccine saved 14 million to 19
+
+01:45:36.660 --> 01:45:41.540
+million lives if we see these charts and of course you could do this all around
+
+01:45:41.540 --> 01:45:48.660
+the world in Canada and elsewhere because they made numbers in this paper that was
+
+01:45:48.660 --> 01:45:52.740
+published in the Landsat which we will talk about with Denny as well that
+
+01:45:52.740 --> 01:45:58.020
+claimed these crazy figures and so you can throw it back on top of these
+
+01:45:58.020 --> 01:46:02.780
+figures and show what they claimed they saved with the vaccine and see how
+
+01:46:02.780 --> 01:46:10.340
+absurd it is and nonetheless they're making these claims and it doesn't really
+
+01:46:10.340 --> 01:46:15.780
+seem as though we're gonna escape from this until people realize that it is the
+
+01:46:15.780 --> 01:46:20.180
+protocols that created the illusion that allowed the vaccine to be rolled out in
+
+01:46:20.180 --> 01:46:28.260
+the first place it wasn't the cover-up of a lab virus it was the appearance of the
+
+01:46:28.260 --> 01:46:32.660
+cover-up of a lab virus that distracted people from realizing that the
+
+01:46:32.660 --> 01:46:38.700
+protocols and that the tests were being used to roll up all cause mortality into
+
+01:46:38.700 --> 01:46:43.740
+a new disease and they doing everything they could to drive up all cause
+
+01:46:43.780 --> 01:46:48.540
+mortality do not resuscitate orders ventilating people that don't need it
+
+01:46:48.540 --> 01:46:57.460
+remdesivir, medazolam, opioids, anything to get all cause mortality to go up when
+
+01:46:57.460 --> 01:47:01.100
+they needed it to go up at the start of the pandemic where they needed to go up
+
+01:47:01.100 --> 01:47:07.660
+at the start of the pandemic and then once this machine was rolling it was
+
+01:47:07.660 --> 01:47:12.420
+gonna go to the end and that's what people are starting to realize as they
+
+01:47:12.420 --> 01:47:19.260
+look backwards and they investigate what people did in 2020 and you realize
+
+01:47:19.260 --> 01:47:23.300
+that people realized that there was money to be made opportunities to be had
+
+01:47:23.300 --> 01:47:30.460
+and they were acting too early to not to have been tipped off people are
+
+01:47:30.460 --> 01:47:33.860
+starting to scramble for the exits ladies and gentlemen because we're on to
+
+01:47:33.860 --> 01:47:38.180
+them I'm not saying these guys are the bad guys I'm saying that this is how it
+
+01:47:38.180 --> 01:47:43.580
+happens and this is what we said a few years ago they're gonna slow roll us to
+
+01:47:43.580 --> 01:47:48.340
+the truth here are these guys being allowed to say this are these guys
+
+01:47:48.340 --> 01:47:51.740
+slowly figuring it out I don't know but there's if they're slowly figuring it
+
+01:47:51.740 --> 01:47:58.300
+out then they're right on pace with the Scooby-Doo that's gonna eventually be
+
+01:47:58.300 --> 01:48:02.220
+used to blame it on certain Western countries that this was allowed to
+
+01:48:02.220 --> 01:48:07.820
+happen which I don't necessarily disagree with but if we don't come to
+
+01:48:07.820 --> 01:48:12.900
+terms with the extent to which they lied to us about the proportion of people
+
+01:48:12.900 --> 01:48:21.620
+killed by a novel virus gain a function leak versus protocols and lies and fake
+
+01:48:21.620 --> 01:48:29.540
+testing we're never gonna escape. One of the big important chapters was in the
+
+01:48:29.540 --> 01:48:32.860
+the places that got the new various quicker so those are the most intensified
+
+01:48:32.860 --> 01:48:36.220
+vaccine programs and one of the ones the first ones to come out that was
+
+01:48:36.220 --> 01:48:40.420
+completely different was only Chrome which came out to South Africa and the
+
+01:48:40.420 --> 01:48:44.300
+South Africans beautifully described that this was a much more infectious
+
+01:48:44.300 --> 01:48:48.860
+agent but it wasn't serious don't worry about it don't do this that it is not
+
+01:48:48.860 --> 01:48:52.860
+thing just don't worry about it and by the way we've done our work it makes no
+
+01:48:52.860 --> 01:48:56.420
+difference whether you're vaccinated or unvaccinated whether you get infected
+
+01:48:56.420 --> 01:48:59.100
+whether you get ill whether you go classical or you die they had all that
+
+01:48:59.100 --> 01:49:04.660
+data on the plate again they communicated with the the government and all these
+
+01:49:04.660 --> 01:49:08.740
+people who decided that they probably not that clever and got it wrong and they
+
+01:49:08.740 --> 01:49:12.540
+persisted with lockdown and I do think that that data is the reason why Nick
+
+01:49:12.540 --> 01:49:17.660
+Hudson was so hot for so long because he knew that in in South Africa they had
+
+01:49:17.660 --> 01:49:21.780
+data which showed otherwise other lunatic things all South African
+
+01:49:21.780 --> 01:49:25.060
+science got it wrong yeah and of course in retrospect they got a hundred percent
+
+01:49:25.060 --> 01:49:30.100
+right and I must say after hearing them being interviewed I knew they were
+
+01:49:30.100 --> 01:49:33.620
+completely right because they're absolutely absolutely special and people
+
+01:49:33.620 --> 01:49:36.780
+who work in that environment tend to be brighter than those who end up in white
+
+01:49:36.780 --> 01:49:42.540
+hole indeed so giving repeated booster doses of vaccine produces more antibodies
+
+01:49:42.540 --> 01:49:46.500
+if you've got time to tell us what our antibody dependent enhancement is what
+
+01:49:46.500 --> 01:49:51.540
+is being enhanced by these antibodies well as mentioned the antibodies they're
+
+01:49:51.540 --> 01:49:55.260
+no longer neutralizing because they were developed in order to attack a virus
+
+01:49:55.260 --> 01:49:59.700
+and said that's got long gone so you've got all these antibodies and they attach
+
+01:49:59.700 --> 01:50:03.340
+to the other viruses because there's some bits the same but they don't
+
+01:50:03.340 --> 01:50:08.740
+neutralize it so by attaching to it they they have their antibodies sticking
+
+01:50:08.740 --> 01:50:12.900
+out so they're more likely to be gobbled up by the macrophages things and brought
+
+01:50:12.900 --> 01:50:17.060
+into the system so it makes them more likely to go into cells it makes them
+
+01:50:17.060 --> 01:50:20.980
+more likely to go in cells yes and it's very it's very well described and it's
+
+01:50:20.980 --> 01:50:26.020
+the bane of trying to produce vaccines against things like dengue fever
+
+01:50:26.020 --> 01:50:30.220
+I think that they're being disingenuous with this mechanism here and it's just
+
+01:50:30.220 --> 01:50:34.860
+dawned on me what they're what they're disingenuous about
+
+01:50:34.860 --> 01:50:42.340
+so antibodies are supposed to bind to the virus and neutralize the virus meaning
+
+01:50:42.340 --> 01:50:51.340
+block the receptor and I think this is wrong because they're supposed to do
+
+01:50:51.340 --> 01:50:56.740
+lots of things they're supposed to tag the virus for processing they are
+
+01:50:56.740 --> 01:51:02.900
+supposed to bring in complement to destroy it to rupture it and they can
+
+01:51:02.900 --> 01:51:08.900
+also I don't think that antibodies are just designed to block the receptor and
+
+01:51:08.900 --> 01:51:13.980
+do nothing else and that's what neutralizing means they're no longer
+
+01:51:13.980 --> 01:51:19.620
+neutralizing that's what that means if they're not neutralizing it means that
+
+01:51:19.620 --> 01:51:26.260
+they don't block the receptor and neutralize it I think this is a very
+
+01:51:26.260 --> 01:51:31.340
+big mistake this is a very big trap here in the immunomethology the
+
+01:51:31.340 --> 01:51:35.780
+neutralization means something when the antibodies don't neutralize anymore it
+
+01:51:35.900 --> 01:51:41.820
+means that they bind to a different part of the receptor binding domain but
+
+01:51:41.820 --> 01:51:45.060
+that shouldn't necessarily mean that that wouldn't allow the immune system
+
+01:51:45.060 --> 01:51:50.540
+to find the virus and to take it up it's not the uptake of the virus that's
+
+01:51:50.540 --> 01:51:58.740
+dangerous I don't think because if neutralization was important then you
+
+01:51:58.740 --> 01:52:01.780
+would need as we've talked about before you would need a neutralizing
+
+01:52:01.780 --> 01:52:07.740
+antibody for every spike protein on every virus otherwise the neutralizing
+
+01:52:07.740 --> 01:52:15.300
+thing would only be partial and so I think we fooled ourselves with some of
+
+01:52:15.300 --> 01:52:22.420
+these in vitro assays to assume that neutralization is how it works when we
+
+01:52:22.420 --> 01:52:26.220
+do these things in a dish there's no other immune cells there there's no
+
+01:52:26.220 --> 01:52:31.980
+complement system there there's nothing there so then in that while I can't
+
+01:52:31.980 --> 01:52:37.460
+believe I'm figuring this outright live on the screen but in that preparation in
+
+01:52:37.460 --> 01:52:42.940
+a cell culture where there's no immune system and no complement system then
+
+01:52:42.940 --> 01:52:48.220
+it's easy to imagine that antibodies neutralize the fusion protein of
+
+01:52:48.220 --> 01:52:53.300
+viruses and prevent the fusion and prevent the RNA from being taken up by
+
+01:52:53.340 --> 01:52:59.980
+those cells but that's a very very closed system where any other effects that
+
+01:52:59.980 --> 01:53:06.380
+the antibody binding to that virus would have are not there which could
+
+01:53:06.380 --> 01:53:11.380
+include immediate destruction by the complement system the complement system
+
+01:53:11.380 --> 01:53:18.380
+acts very quickly T cells and macrophages can act very quickly and if
+
+01:53:18.380 --> 01:53:24.140
+they're there to take up the cells this could be a distraction anybody
+
+01:53:24.140 --> 01:53:27.500
+dependent enhancement is a much more complicated thing which may involve
+
+01:53:27.500 --> 01:53:36.900
+actually the idea that the antibodies that bind to this thing help it to infect
+
+01:53:36.900 --> 01:53:44.660
+your cells protected from immune activation no they caused the immune
+
+01:53:44.660 --> 01:53:50.820
+activation so you have all these antibodies floating around free in
+
+01:53:50.820 --> 01:53:57.580
+your in your blood and when they bind to things and aggregate they cause
+
+01:53:57.580 --> 01:54:05.300
+inflammation so that antibody dependent enhancement is simply could be as simple
+
+01:54:05.300 --> 01:54:10.820
+as the idea of having antibodies when you don't need them and since the only
+
+01:54:10.860 --> 01:54:17.540
+thing that we can usefully augment in a vaccine scenario is seroprevalence that
+
+01:54:17.540 --> 01:54:22.540
+any time that antibodies are maladaptive you get antibody dependent
+
+01:54:22.540 --> 01:54:28.340
+enhancement what a stupid name for having antibodies when you don't need
+
+01:54:28.340 --> 01:54:37.900
+them what a stupid excuse for augmenting the immune system going wrong oh my
+
+01:54:37.940 --> 01:54:43.540
+gosh this is blowing my mind that I'm figuring this out right now have we
+
+01:54:43.540 --> 01:54:48.260
+really bamboozled ourselves to the extent to which that we believe that
+
+01:54:48.260 --> 01:54:53.420
+antibody dependent enhancement love you have too many of the wrong ones it'll be
+
+01:54:53.420 --> 01:54:59.900
+bad it's not too many of the wrong ones too many antibodies period think about
+
+01:54:59.900 --> 01:55:05.060
+that proteins floating around in your blood to protect you from stuff that's
+
+01:55:05.060 --> 01:55:10.260
+not what your blood is a soup of proteins that protect you from stuff that
+
+01:55:10.260 --> 01:55:16.180
+memorize all different kinds of epitopes you got antibodies for all this that's
+
+01:55:16.180 --> 01:55:28.100
+not how it works holy cow we got them oh my gosh we got them of course once the
+
+01:55:28.100 --> 01:55:32.900
+antibody is held in a cell culture where you do a neutralizing assay you don't
+
+01:55:32.940 --> 01:55:38.060
+have the immune system you don't have the complement system and so it's a very
+
+01:55:38.060 --> 01:55:43.340
+little cartoon world where the only readout you have is whether or not these
+
+01:55:43.340 --> 01:55:47.420
+pseudo virus particles bind to the cell culture and cause the cell culture to
+
+01:55:47.420 --> 01:55:55.620
+change and so then it's very easy to you have antibodies in the solution and so
+
+01:55:55.620 --> 01:56:01.140
+now that reaction doesn't happen and now you have this whole cartoon in your
+
+01:56:01.180 --> 01:56:05.620
+imagination that says that fusion proteins are blocked by antibodies and
+
+01:56:05.620 --> 01:56:13.100
+that's how we defend ourselves against viruses and so the more antibodies you
+
+01:56:13.100 --> 01:56:19.900
+have the better don't you see it holy shit
+
+01:56:21.580 --> 01:56:26.900
+the virus into the cell oh my gosh I can't believe I'm figuring this out now in
+
+01:56:26.900 --> 01:56:32.100
+2023 so the government are building a new plant in Harwell Science Park just
+
+01:56:32.100 --> 01:56:36.860
+near Oxford to produce 250 million doses of mRNA vaccine per year as far as we
+
+01:56:36.860 --> 01:56:39.380
+know there's another plant near Melbourne we believe in Australia to
+
+01:56:39.380 --> 01:56:41.780
+produce a couple hundred million doses per year there's another one in Canada
+
+01:56:41.780 --> 01:56:49.380
+is this a good idea have to think very carefully I read today that Germany has
+
+01:56:49.380 --> 01:56:53.740
+ordered the destruction of millions of millions doses of vaccines having come
+
+01:56:53.740 --> 01:56:58.340
+to the right conclusion Switzerland is the same Switzerland been all their
+
+01:56:58.340 --> 01:57:04.420
+vaccines I think they've been a hoodwink about this I mean we do did need a good
+
+01:57:04.420 --> 01:57:10.780
+facility but now I don't the last mass production needs messenger RNA I think
+
+01:57:10.780 --> 01:57:14.220
+it should be put in totally into the bin a lot he hate me for this because they've
+
+01:57:14.220 --> 01:57:19.900
+put so much intellectual everything in it but I mean if I if I was 10 years ago
+
+01:57:19.900 --> 01:57:25.060
+involved a scientific things committees who had everything sorted out to go in
+
+01:57:25.060 --> 01:57:28.020
+and they're talking about cancer vaccines you know so many safety issues
+
+01:57:28.020 --> 01:57:31.700
+aren't the same as giving it to own every man and his dog yes it's just
+
+01:57:31.700 --> 01:57:33.780
+chalk and cheese isn't it if you've got someone with someone with a who's
+
+01:57:33.780 --> 01:57:36.740
+perfectly healthy and you give them an intervention you've got one set of
+
+01:57:36.740 --> 01:57:39.500
+risk benefit analysis if you've got one of your patients for example who's
+
+01:57:39.500 --> 01:57:43.540
+gravely ill with some form of cancer then clearly you're going to be prepared to
+
+01:57:43.540 --> 01:57:46.820
+take a bigger potential risk because the risk from the cancer is so much bigger
+
+01:57:46.820 --> 01:57:50.060
+it just seems a completely different equation it's proportionality yeah
+
+01:57:50.060 --> 01:57:57.780
+proportionality with the messenger RNA risk and well populations saying you
+
+01:57:57.780 --> 01:58:01.860
+are preventing them getting okay so he does get that that's good they're going
+
+01:58:01.860 --> 01:58:09.180
+to die anyway I mean you know we've all lived through I mean the COVID thing
+
+01:58:09.180 --> 01:58:13.820
+has made us forget just how lethal some of the flu epidemics have been I mean
+
+01:58:13.820 --> 01:58:20.660
+30,000 years not unusual I was a junior doctor so we didn't close down the
+
+01:58:20.660 --> 01:58:26.900
+country from that that's all I want to ask really professor just got one we do
+
+01:58:26.900 --> 01:58:31.580
+plan if you would like to I'd like to do another video at some stage on viral
+
+01:58:31.580 --> 01:58:35.540
+origins I don't want to do that today but that's an interesting one but do you
+
+01:58:35.540 --> 01:58:38.900
+have a particular blood level that you like to titrate your patients with
+
+01:58:38.900 --> 01:58:43.060
+cancers how high do you like their vitamin D levels to be
+
+01:58:43.060 --> 01:58:47.540
+oh yes I've done a lot of work on that and I know that came to the I came to
+
+01:58:47.540 --> 01:58:51.420
+conclusion that the normal level which the NHS and doctors like to bark at you
+
+01:58:51.420 --> 01:58:55.500
+normally you don't need to do anything there's not normal at all because it's
+
+01:58:55.500 --> 01:58:59.540
+the normal population which is endemically low if it isn't indeed that is the
+
+01:58:59.540 --> 01:59:04.200
+problem it is means you're like that they're like normal for people with low
+
+01:59:04.200 --> 01:59:09.100
+bit of indeed normal for people that are low I mean I don't know what to work and
+
+01:59:09.580 --> 01:59:14.060
+most things I included myself in this and I measured my own bit of indeed and
+
+01:59:14.060 --> 01:59:18.180
+took a bit of the exception and I read wisely I mean and I must give full
+
+01:59:18.180 --> 01:59:22.860
+credit to David Grimes and David Anderson who really I mean if anybody
+
+01:59:22.860 --> 01:59:27.060
+deserved the Nobel Prize let me make sure about the Nobel Prize for the
+
+01:59:27.060 --> 01:59:32.140
+COVID pandemic because I had lobbied strongly independently and I found
+
+01:59:32.140 --> 01:59:36.340
+that they had to and to ignore us and many others who probably do the same
+
+01:59:36.340 --> 01:59:39.900
+thing I think there's is medical negligence what the government total
+
+01:59:39.900 --> 01:59:45.180
+medical issues anyway to not forgetting your actual question is I came to
+
+01:59:45.180 --> 01:59:49.940
+conclusion I want all my patients to have a vitamin D3 level over a hundred
+
+01:59:49.940 --> 01:59:55.140
+nanomoles per liter not 50 as the NHS seems quite happy with I managed to get
+
+01:59:55.140 --> 02:00:00.100
+our own hospitals except up to 75 but for my patients I wanted to be over a
+
+02:00:00.100 --> 02:00:03.420
+hundred it makes an unbelievable difference so that'd be about 40 in
+
+02:00:03.420 --> 02:00:09.580
+America nanograms per mill I honestly you've got me there I think you divide
+
+02:00:09.580 --> 02:00:13.300
+I was trying to do it you divide by 2.5 so I quite quite so it's around about
+
+02:00:13.300 --> 02:00:16.500
+that but over a hundred nanomoles per liter it would be your preference
+
+02:00:16.500 --> 02:00:20.500
+yes and it really does make a big difference and that might mean giving like
+
+02:00:20.500 --> 02:00:24.140
+10,000 units a day to bump it up over a thousand I mean the other thing there's
+
+02:00:24.140 --> 02:00:31.620
+300 genes involved in absorbing it. Fauci was taken four thousand units per
+
+02:00:31.620 --> 02:00:39.900
+day I think when he was on the Jennifer Garner Instagram podcast in 2020 he said
+
+02:00:39.900 --> 02:00:43.220
+he was taken four thousand units a day and producing the act component of the
+
+02:00:43.220 --> 02:00:48.300
+vitamin D3 most people are going to have a mild deficiency in one of those
+
+02:00:48.300 --> 02:00:53.100
+gene productions at some stage so I've seen people who have had very low
+
+02:00:53.100 --> 02:00:58.580
+vitamin D and I'm a statement that they outdoor lives they have great nutrition
+
+02:00:58.580 --> 02:01:03.500
+and everything like that and they've got very low vitamin D's I again because I
+
+02:01:03.500 --> 02:01:08.060
+have to know explanations for all these things of course I signed this
+
+02:01:08.060 --> 02:01:14.060
+except I said to this guy but I said you're super low it's like he deliberately
+
+02:01:14.060 --> 02:01:17.900
+avoided vitamin D tell me what you do because you're always out cycling in the
+
+02:01:17.900 --> 02:01:22.100
+sun and it's so fit next I and he says well I get up in the morning I have my
+
+02:01:22.100 --> 02:01:27.860
+breakfast and then I slap on my sunscreen and this that I go for a bike
+
+02:01:27.860 --> 02:01:35.460
+I said what fact did he use he said 50 right well once I knew 50 I started
+
+02:01:35.460 --> 02:01:43.100
+asking 50 is a complete block because it's even worse though because you're
+
+02:01:43.100 --> 02:01:47.660
+also putting things on your skin your skin is your immune barrier your skin
+
+02:01:47.660 --> 02:01:53.240
+is not necessarily liking all the chemicals that are in that product so
+
+02:01:53.240 --> 02:01:56.780
+not only are you robbing yourself of natural production of vitamin D which
+
+02:01:56.820 --> 02:02:02.740
+is now starting to seem so strange right that they were so insistent that we
+
+02:02:02.740 --> 02:02:07.300
+needed to protect ourselves from the Sun and that we could use Sun cream to do
+
+02:02:07.300 --> 02:02:13.940
+it as opposed to you know like a a parasol which is really the sad part of
+
+02:02:13.940 --> 02:02:19.100
+this that's all we really needed is just stay in the shade like they do in
+
+02:02:19.100 --> 02:02:25.900
+tropical countries and instead we sold products sold products sold chemicals
+
+02:02:26.060 --> 02:02:33.740
+that we put on our immune system on our barrier the largest organ in our body
+
+02:02:33.740 --> 02:02:38.740
+and these guys are talking about it now too like SPF 50 is not even what matters
+
+02:02:38.740 --> 02:02:45.380
+what what matters is the goo the garbage and we were clogging ourselves with
+
+02:02:45.380 --> 02:02:50.300
+covering ourselves with some of the most sensitive skin our body is our face
+
+02:02:50.300 --> 02:02:54.980
+he's describing somebody putting it on his face every day
+
+02:02:56.380 --> 02:03:03.420
+while we have AOC on Instagram complaining about how sunscreen is is too
+
+02:03:03.420 --> 02:03:11.180
+highly regulated in America by the FDA that's her concern right now man we are
+
+02:03:11.180 --> 02:03:14.660
+making progress but we're not making progress it's like we're spinning our
+
+02:03:14.660 --> 02:03:22.460
+wheels in the deepest puddle of mud it's starting to be rewarding because the
+
+02:03:22.460 --> 02:03:25.940
+engines making noise and we're able to shift some gears and there's mud flying
+
+02:03:25.940 --> 02:03:32.060
+everywhere and it's moving we're not going that far we need to focus we need
+
+02:03:32.060 --> 02:03:35.420
+to get the attention of these people and start to explain to them the real depth
+
+02:03:35.420 --> 02:03:39.660
+and breadth of this delusion they're in under now the people using fact that you
+
+02:03:39.660 --> 02:03:42.900
+are having super low bit of indeed even if they're out the Sun all the time so
+
+02:03:42.900 --> 02:03:47.260
+it's far too strong and that's another global thing that the NHS and people
+
+02:03:47.260 --> 02:03:50.540
+should do they should remove fact that it's actually dangerous because it
+
+02:03:50.540 --> 02:03:54.580
+completely locks out the visible to cope with it indeed so anyway so that's
+
+02:03:54.580 --> 02:04:00.540
+how going back I think that's a hundred nanomoles is to a some people and then
+
+02:04:00.540 --> 02:04:05.780
+we put it this way I've seen nobody near a hundred who hasn't been taking
+
+02:04:05.780 --> 02:04:11.220
+supplements with one exception and I won't forget it I said this it was quite
+
+02:04:11.220 --> 02:04:16.660
+a elderly man yet now we treated him quite well and I said you know we need
+
+02:04:16.660 --> 02:04:19.580
+to make sure he has his vitamin D supplements things like that but I
+
+02:04:19.580 --> 02:04:24.180
+measure it first and when he came back he had a level like 97 98 which is near
+
+02:04:24.180 --> 02:04:28.660
+enough a hundred doctor and I said each shore he doesn't take any vitamin D
+
+02:04:28.660 --> 02:04:32.620
+and he said no no no he only takes he takes his aspirin and his heart tablets
+
+02:04:32.620 --> 02:04:38.340
+and they said they walked out the door and his way popped back in that says do
+
+02:04:38.340 --> 02:04:41.620
+you know what though ever since I had put him on cod liver oil he's been
+
+02:04:42.540 --> 02:04:51.780
+yeah let's go back to the other side was the the so-called bait they don't
+
+02:04:51.780 --> 02:04:54.820
+might mention that now they don't like anything but they're just dark cool and
+
+02:04:54.820 --> 02:04:59.300
+skin all the early people who die in a dark kind of skin and they did another
+
+02:04:59.300 --> 02:05:04.020
+report useless report which found it was every form of discrimination poverty
+
+02:05:04.020 --> 02:05:08.180
+deprivation they didn't mention a bit of the deeper I have never seen a dark
+
+02:05:08.180 --> 02:05:13.220
+kind of skin black and Asian person in the hospital that I've done I've never
+
+02:05:13.220 --> 02:05:17.100
+seen one of them with a bit of indio 30 unless somebody's got to the first
+
+02:05:17.100 --> 02:05:21.780
+they're taking supplements that was the explanation for their end to death rate
+
+02:05:21.780 --> 02:05:24.780
+that we had and now because it couldn't have been deprivation because it was
+
+02:05:24.780 --> 02:05:31.340
+right I mean there was many doctors the first opera consultants yeah they may
+
+02:05:31.340 --> 02:05:36.980
+argue that they're deprived but not everybody else later so that was the
+
+02:05:36.980 --> 02:05:40.420
+first and that was the thing I tried to get through to witty and again I mean
+
+02:05:40.420 --> 02:05:44.660
+the guy is just I mean he really is totally unfit for purpose I mean why
+
+02:05:44.660 --> 02:05:47.860
+hasn't been sacked or why hasn't resigned I have no idea he's absolutely
+
+02:05:47.860 --> 02:05:50.740
+grateful he kept saying again the game there's no need for a bit of indeed
+
+02:05:50.740 --> 02:05:55.140
+like he didn't need to know about it yeah I'm pretty sure I got a message through
+
+02:05:55.140 --> 02:05:58.180
+to Chris witty via various political figures as well I'm pretty sure it got
+
+02:05:58.180 --> 02:06:02.900
+through I know Brian's Anderson did too but anyway there are four papers out
+
+02:06:02.900 --> 02:06:06.500
+there in retrospect showing that the bit of indeed had a better protection than
+
+02:06:06.500 --> 02:06:10.620
+any of the vaccine brain and the one that I think is the most important was a
+
+02:06:10.620 --> 02:06:13.660
+big Spanish study which revealed that there's a lot of it in indeed
+
+02:06:13.660 --> 02:06:17.660
+deficiency in Spain which I would not have thought that it is they avoid the
+
+02:06:17.660 --> 02:06:20.540
+sun and then when they're young they get leathery skin so we have a
+
+02:06:20.540 --> 02:06:24.060
+significant point and they did a retrospective study of everybody admitted
+
+02:06:24.060 --> 02:06:28.860
+to hospitals who ill of covid so they looked at everything and the only the
+
+02:06:28.860 --> 02:06:34.060
+only conclusion a meta analysis was it was really simple if your vitamin D
+
+02:06:34.060 --> 02:06:38.460
+level was below 30 when you went into hospital with covid you had a 77%
+
+02:06:38.460 --> 02:06:44.140
+chance of dying if it was over 75 you had a 2% chance that I don't need to
+
+02:06:44.140 --> 02:06:48.660
+bother my statistical department's heads in order to work out what's how
+
+02:06:48.660 --> 02:06:53.500
+significant even I can cope with that one yeah it was unbelievable yeah I love
+
+02:06:53.500 --> 02:06:56.740
+this micro bacterium that you give so it's a simple micro bacterium that you
+
+02:06:56.740 --> 02:07:00.540
+kill it and you inject it and that produces a broad spectrum immunity
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+02:07:00.540 --> 02:07:04.300
+against a variety of viruses potentially influenza potentially covid
+
+02:07:04.300 --> 02:07:08.140
+well if the reason it does it is because it boosts the innate immune
+
+02:07:08.140 --> 02:07:12.260
+loss so presumably the government by biting your hand off to get the rest of
+
+02:07:12.260 --> 02:07:18.180
+your time I told them all about it and I mean once again you couldn't make it
+
+02:07:18.180 --> 02:07:22.860
+up I couldn't believe it Chris Witte said there wasn't enough animal work
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+02:07:22.860 --> 02:07:27.240
+done on it it had been in hundreds of patients we did have not had a single
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+02:07:27.240 --> 02:07:31.800
+SAE another example that is not fit well what's SAE sorry serious adverse
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+02:07:31.800 --> 02:07:36.880
+event yeah there's many of those I mean it actually is a very very safe
+
+02:07:36.880 --> 02:07:40.680
+vaccine it's a very very safe unlike Pfizer where if you go back to the
+
+02:07:40.680 --> 02:07:45.720
+VAERS data that was released basically if you had a serious adverse event three
+
+02:07:45.720 --> 02:07:50.800
+or four of which means here you have 3% chance of dying well nobody would get
+
+02:07:50.800 --> 02:07:54.360
+a vaccine with a 3% chance of dying with an adverse event but it was covered up
+
+02:07:54.360 --> 02:08:00.240
+it was only released as you know that I caught demanded that on freedom
+
+02:08:00.240 --> 02:08:03.880
+expression that it be released otherwise we never know so you're just using this
+
+02:08:03.880 --> 02:08:08.240
+vaccine in your own clinical trials I'm gonna fade this out
+
+02:08:09.200 --> 02:08:17.200
+I need to get to bed on time tonight I have decided to make the commitment to
+
+02:08:17.200 --> 02:08:21.920
+coach a sixth-grade basketball team this fall which means there's no way in
+
+02:08:21.920 --> 02:08:27.120
+the hell I'm gonna be able to keep up nightly streaming but that doesn't mean
+
+02:08:27.120 --> 02:08:31.520
+much right now because it's not gonna start till November I just want to give
+
+02:08:31.520 --> 02:08:36.920
+you a heads-up that this utopian nightly delivery mechanism is not gonna last
+
+02:08:36.920 --> 02:08:44.960
+that long probably make it to Halloween which might be 67 in a row I put the
+
+02:08:44.960 --> 02:08:50.960
+chat in the chat this link I can still see it up there at 958 so if you want to
+
+02:08:50.960 --> 02:08:55.160
+watch the rest of this video or watch it again without my commentary by all
+
+02:08:55.160 --> 02:08:59.680
+means do so thank you very much to all the people that are scrolling about my
+
+02:08:59.680 --> 02:09:05.920
+head it helped me from 2020 up until now some of these subscribers aren't
+
+02:09:05.920 --> 02:09:10.600
+current anymore some of them are all of them are responsible for me being here
+
+02:09:10.600 --> 02:09:16.000
+thank you very much for your support thank you for sharing my word thank you
+
+02:09:16.000 --> 02:09:22.080
+for caring can love your neighbor I'll see you again tomorrow
+
+02:09:46.000 --> 02:09:52.280
+and so it sends out all these suppressors and
+
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+All right, hopefully this sound check will be better.
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+We are back with Denny Rancourt from Canada talking about the Lancet paper from September
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+of 2022, which has basically been lampooned by giving it the Nobel Prize as a backing.
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+And so now drawing attention to its analysis, Denny has decided to take it upon himself
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+to see what this analysis really means in real terms.
+
+00:27.760 --> 00:31.000
+And so he was just giving us an introduction and we were out of sync.
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+00:31.000 --> 00:34.040
+Still out of sync, it says, well, whatever, we're going to keep going because I'm recording
+
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+fine.
+
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+So go ahead, Denny, take it away.
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+00:37.640 --> 00:38.640
+Okay.
+
+00:38.640 --> 00:45.680
+Well, so as I was saying, the Nobel Prize is a political propaganda instrument.
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+00:45.680 --> 00:49.000
+And that's the general rule.
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+00:49.000 --> 00:57.480
+And when it was announced for some aspects of the developments in the lab that led to
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+00:57.480 --> 01:04.640
+the, I guess, the development of the vaccine that was then injected into billions of times
+
+01:04.640 --> 01:12.080
+into people's arms, when that Nobel Prize was awarded, everyone, virtually everyone in
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+01:12.080 --> 01:20.400
+the mainstream sort of sounding echo chamber was saying that this vaccine had saved millions
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+01:20.400 --> 01:24.160
+of lives and tens of millions of lives.
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+01:24.160 --> 01:30.520
+So you had the New York Times saying that blasting it was all front page news and everyone
+
+01:30.520 --> 01:36.560
+who would mention it in these leading media like the New York Times, the Washington Post
+
+01:36.560 --> 01:37.560
+and so on.
+
+01:37.560 --> 01:38.560
+I made a list of them.
+
+01:38.560 --> 01:42.080
+I actually cited them in my article there.
+
+01:42.080 --> 01:45.120
+They would all talk about these millions of lives that were saved.
+
+01:45.120 --> 01:52.160
+And I thought, this is crazy how, you know, there has never been a clinical trial that
+
+01:52.160 --> 01:57.680
+has shown or demonstrated or even suggested, I would argue even suggested that you could
+
+01:57.680 --> 02:04.280
+reasonably take to suggest that this vaccine had ever saved a life and could save lives
+
+02:04.280 --> 02:08.640
+because mortality was not an end point in these trials.
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+02:08.640 --> 02:13.100
+So this was completely outside of science.
+
+02:13.100 --> 02:15.280
+This was coming from somewhere else.
+
+02:15.280 --> 02:19.120
+And when you look at what the somewhere else was, where was this coming from?
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+02:19.120 --> 02:23.560
+Where were they getting this number of a million or 10 million lives saved?
+
+02:23.560 --> 02:29.600
+Well, it turns out that science news, science is a leading science journal and they have
+
+02:29.600 --> 02:36.400
+a news section and science news talked about the Nobel and referred to the scientific paper
+
+02:36.400 --> 02:41.360
+that had calculated this tens of millions of lives saved.
+
+02:41.360 --> 02:44.760
+And that was the paper that you mentioned.
+
+02:44.760 --> 02:51.400
+And so they made that link and we went in and looked at this paper.
+
+02:51.400 --> 02:56.200
+And it turns out that the paper is just, well, first of all, the research is funded by Gates
+
+02:56.200 --> 02:59.200
+and the World Health Organization, et cetera.
+
+02:59.200 --> 03:00.520
+That's clear.
+
+03:00.520 --> 03:03.660
+And the paper is a modeling paper.
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+03:03.660 --> 03:10.720
+And I would argue that these people, this is not, this is the opposite of good science,
+
+03:10.720 --> 03:17.200
+okay, because they did not check to see if their theoretical calculation or prediction
+
+03:17.200 --> 03:23.040
+or, you know, counter view as they call it, they didn't check to see if it actually stuck
+
+03:23.040 --> 03:29.640
+with something that was reasonable and realistic and could actually happen in the real world.
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+03:29.640 --> 03:31.120
+They didn't make that verification.
+
+03:31.120 --> 03:33.680
+They just came up with a number and then reported it.
+
+03:33.680 --> 03:37.320
+So I thought that this is really nasty stuff.
+
+03:37.320 --> 03:41.720
+And so we looked in detail at how they had done it and what they did exactly.
+
+03:41.720 --> 03:45.000
+And we thought, my God, this is complete fabrication.
+
+03:45.000 --> 03:46.000
+It's garbage.
+
+03:46.000 --> 03:47.000
+Now, let me be clear.
+
+03:47.000 --> 03:52.720
+I don't mean that the actual mathematical calculations in the paper are incorrect.
+
+03:52.720 --> 04:00.160
+And I don't mean that the principle of how they try to calculate this is incorrect.
+
+04:00.160 --> 04:06.400
+What I mean is that they are making assumptions about what to input into that model that are
+
+04:06.400 --> 04:07.400
+just wild.
+
+04:07.400 --> 04:11.000
+Like, why would you believe that these inputs are valid?
+
+04:11.000 --> 04:16.400
+And also, if you do believe that they're valid because Pharma is telling you that they're
+
+04:16.400 --> 04:22.600
+valid and so on, then when you calculate the consequence of those assumptions and you
+
+04:22.600 --> 04:26.840
+get ridiculous numbers, why don't you question yourself?
+
+04:26.840 --> 04:29.860
+You have to go back and say, well, what the heck was that?
+
+04:29.860 --> 04:31.160
+How is this possible?
+
+04:31.160 --> 04:37.680
+I'm doing a proper calculation with known science and I'm doing it mathematically correctly.
+
+04:37.680 --> 04:41.960
+I'm not making, you know, there are no bugs in my program and not making any errors.
+
+04:41.960 --> 04:46.680
+And I input what Pharma claims is the efficacy of these vaccines.
+
+04:46.680 --> 04:55.840
+And I input what according to testing of people and so on would have been the prevalence
+
+04:55.840 --> 05:00.840
+of people who are susceptible to being infected at various times during the pandemic.
+
+05:00.840 --> 05:02.920
+I input all of that.
+
+05:02.920 --> 05:08.520
+And I end up with a number of people that would have been saved by this huge vaccine rollout
+
+05:08.520 --> 05:13.960
+that was actually done in the real society that is just a ridiculous number, tens of
+
+05:13.960 --> 05:16.160
+millions of people that would have been saved.
+
+05:16.160 --> 05:23.000
+So what we wanted to do in our paper is we wanted to show graphically, if this was true,
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+05:23.000 --> 05:24.000
+what would it mean?
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+05:24.000 --> 05:25.080
+What would it look like?
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+05:25.080 --> 05:30.520
+In terms of hard data, when you're looking at all cost mortality itself as a function
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+05:30.520 --> 05:36.440
+of time in any given country, in terms of hard data, what they're saying, what would
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+05:36.440 --> 05:38.160
+it look like?
+
+05:38.160 --> 05:43.760
+And so we made a bunch of graphs to illustrate what it would look like if you actually believed
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+05:43.760 --> 05:50.080
+in their calculation and you just put it on the graph of what that would mean in terms
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+05:50.080 --> 05:51.840
+of all cost mortality.
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+05:51.840 --> 05:54.240
+This is the kind of thing that you get.
+
+05:54.240 --> 05:59.040
+Now we started in the paper, we did, in fact, we did 95 countries.
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+05:59.040 --> 06:01.800
+So we did this calculation for 95 countries.
+
+06:01.800 --> 06:06.760
+You see, the original authors, Watson et al, predicted for many, many countries, more
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+06:06.760 --> 06:13.000
+than 95, in each case, how many lives would have been saved in each of those countries.
+
+06:13.000 --> 06:20.440
+We had data for 95 countries, so we applied their method and their number to see what
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+06:20.440 --> 06:22.400
+it would give on these graphs.
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+06:22.400 --> 06:27.160
+And so we started with the United States because it's a very large jurisdiction that
+
+06:27.200 --> 06:31.280
+there's good data and it was spectacular what happened in the United States.
+
+06:31.280 --> 06:36.120
+So when I show a graph like the one you're showing now, the top panel is actual all
+
+06:36.120 --> 06:40.160
+cost mortality where you have the Y scale starting at zero.
+
+06:40.160 --> 06:47.360
+So you actually see the number of deaths starting at zero by week in the USA for the whole country,
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+06:47.360 --> 06:48.960
+all ages.
+
+06:48.960 --> 06:53.400
+And you see that as soon as the pandemic is announced, there's a faint vertical line there,
+
+06:53.400 --> 06:59.360
+you get a peak that surges up in the United States like that, which was due to people
+
+06:59.360 --> 07:03.120
+being killed in hospitals by very aggressive protocols and things like that.
+
+07:03.120 --> 07:10.320
+But the point is, the high peaks in mortality are unprecedented in recent history.
+
+07:10.320 --> 07:16.080
+So you get the usual gradual seasonal variations before, but then during the COVID period,
+
+07:16.080 --> 07:18.840
+you get this huge structure and a lot of peaks.
+
+07:18.840 --> 07:24.400
+And some of those peaks are directly related to increases in vaccination and so on.
+
+07:24.400 --> 07:28.920
+And so you can see the cumulative vaccination curve there on the same graph.
+
+07:28.920 --> 07:30.840
+We put it there for comparison.
+
+07:30.840 --> 07:37.680
+And what they're saying amounts to the red line that we put on the graph there.
+
+07:37.680 --> 07:42.360
+So in other words, the all cost mortality, if what they're saying is true,
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+07:42.360 --> 07:46.600
+would have not been the blue line, which is the actual measured value,
+
+07:46.600 --> 07:50.560
+but would have been this red line if what they're saying is true.
+
+07:50.560 --> 07:56.240
+So the mortality by week would have risen to that kind of level in the United States,
+
+07:56.240 --> 07:57.600
+which is a huge level.
+
+07:57.600 --> 08:02.520
+You already have huge, huge peaks during the COVID period,
+
+08:02.520 --> 08:07.720
+but they're talking about going way beyond that to these very high levels, you see.
+
+08:07.720 --> 08:14.560
+And you can represent the same thing for the United States as an excess all cost mortality.
+
+08:14.600 --> 08:21.120
+So where you take out the regular seasonal pattern and you just see in terms of an excess,
+
+08:21.120 --> 08:27.040
+compared to the historic trend recently in the last five years, what these peaks would look like.
+
+08:27.040 --> 08:30.360
+And so you get just the excess compared to the seasonal trend.
+
+08:30.360 --> 08:33.000
+You see all that structured during the COVID period.
+
+08:33.000 --> 08:37.600
+And you see this much higher mortality that they say would have occurred
+
+08:37.600 --> 08:43.440
+if we didn't have these wonderful vaccines to bring it down to those levels there, you see.
+
+08:43.440 --> 08:47.200
+But I mean, then we really averted a disaster.
+
+08:47.200 --> 08:50.760
+Yes. Yeah, that's the point is that we averted.
+
+08:50.760 --> 08:54.840
+I mean, if we hadn't rolled out these vaccines like we did there,
+
+08:54.840 --> 09:01.840
+oh my God, it would have been so much worse than the horrible calamity that it was in the US, you see.
+
+09:01.840 --> 09:06.320
+But this illustration, we started with the US because it's such a big jurisdiction.
+
+09:06.320 --> 09:07.360
+There's good data.
+
+09:07.360 --> 09:10.800
+But when you do this for other countries, it's even more striking.
+
+09:10.800 --> 09:13.840
+It's just unbelievable.
+
+09:13.840 --> 09:19.720
+So maybe we could show just a few more countries to show you how ridiculous what they're proposing is.
+
+09:19.720 --> 09:24.360
+Because if you move just to Canada, which is the next one, for example,
+
+09:24.360 --> 09:30.320
+the all cost mortality excesses during the COVID period in Canada are much smaller than in the US.
+
+09:30.320 --> 09:34.280
+That's because you didn't have New York City anywhere in Canada.
+
+09:34.280 --> 09:35.160
+That's right.
+
+09:35.160 --> 09:40.440
+And the virus didn't cross the border into Canada hardly at all.
+
+09:40.680 --> 09:43.120
+It didn't dare to cross the border.
+
+09:43.120 --> 09:47.520
+And so you had this very low mortality in Canada comparatively.
+
+09:47.520 --> 09:52.120
+And what they're saying is that those are the deaths that would have occurred if we hadn't vaccinated.
+
+09:52.120 --> 09:54.280
+So you have to wrap your head around this.
+
+09:54.280 --> 10:00.360
+What they're seeing in Canada, if you look at all cost mortality, it's basically a flat line.
+
+10:00.360 --> 10:06.360
+And they're saying if we hadn't vaccinated right when we started vaccinating,
+
+10:06.360 --> 10:09.400
+there would have been this huge mega surge in all cost mortality.
+
+10:09.400 --> 10:11.640
+And that's what we saved you from.
+
+10:11.640 --> 10:18.720
+So they have to argue that excess all cost mortality and all cost mortality itself
+
+10:18.720 --> 10:23.320
+would have had to surge precisely when they started vaccinating.
+
+10:23.320 --> 10:25.240
+And we saved you from that.
+
+10:25.240 --> 10:30.840
+So you have to believe them that mortality,
+
+10:30.840 --> 10:39.760
+they rolled out the vaccines at just the right time to avert this incredible disaster.
+
+10:39.760 --> 10:45.320
+You see, and if you believe that, you know, I've got a bridge I want to sell you.
+
+10:45.320 --> 10:47.760
+You know, I mean, this is crazy, right?
+
+10:47.760 --> 10:52.920
+And it's so stunning when you look at Canada like that.
+
+10:52.920 --> 10:55.520
+And it's even more striking in other countries.
+
+10:55.520 --> 10:59.840
+If you go down to a few more examples, we did, for example, we did all of Europe.
+
+10:59.840 --> 11:01.560
+We added a bunch of countries in Europe.
+
+11:01.560 --> 11:06.640
+We see we see essentially the same thing in Europe as if you were looking at the entire United States.
+
+11:06.640 --> 11:13.680
+I mean, what is compelling about these graphs is the is the cumulative vaccination in the gray line.
+
+11:13.680 --> 11:20.160
+Yes, so that you know where these these these presumed save deaths have to occur.
+
+11:20.160 --> 11:23.680
+You can't save anybody before the vaccine rollout.
+
+11:23.720 --> 11:33.920
+And so it's extraordinary because you are really claiming it's like they're they're claiming that
+
+11:33.920 --> 11:42.200
+the the evolution of the natural spread of a virulent pathogen would have been such
+
+11:42.200 --> 11:46.080
+that at that time there would have been these huge peaks in mortality.
+
+11:46.080 --> 11:52.320
+And thank God we got the vaccines out in time because we hit it right at the right moment to bring it down.
+
+11:52.360 --> 11:56.080
+And look at look at the the country you're looking at now, Singapore.
+
+11:56.080 --> 11:59.920
+I mean, it's as flat a line as you can have.
+
+11:59.920 --> 12:07.640
+And they're claiming that it would have been this incredible through the roof thing just unbelievable.
+
+12:07.640 --> 12:11.600
+And they brought it right back down to the to the flat line, you see.
+
+12:11.600 --> 12:14.880
+So these these things are really incredible, these vaccines.
+
+12:14.880 --> 12:24.800
+Now, the other thing too is that they always the the result is you always bring it back to what normally you were seeing before.
+
+12:24.800 --> 12:30.800
+So not something lower and not something halfway in between, you see.
+
+12:30.800 --> 12:39.840
+The vaccines have had a perfect effect of bringing back the mortality right down to the observed mortality,
+
+12:39.840 --> 12:43.920
+which is pretty much the same as it has been historically.
+
+12:43.960 --> 12:49.760
+Except for these additional peaks like in the U.S. and Europe that occur in the COVID period.
+
+12:49.760 --> 12:56.600
+But you want us to believe a couple of pretty extraordinary things.
+
+12:56.600 --> 13:03.280
+You want us to believe that the natural evolution of this thing more than a year into the pandemic
+
+13:03.280 --> 13:06.880
+is such that there would have been this huge surge in mortality.
+
+13:06.880 --> 13:10.920
+I mean, huge unprecedented in the history of the world as we know it.
+
+13:10.920 --> 13:22.480
+OK, and that you saved humanity from that and brought the mortality down to precisely not halfway, not a third of the way,
+
+13:22.480 --> 13:29.960
+but precisely down to basically what we've been seeing during the COVID period or historically before in some in some nations.
+
+13:29.960 --> 13:32.040
+That's what they want us to believe.
+
+13:32.040 --> 13:35.720
+That's where the 14 million saved lives comes from.
+
+13:35.760 --> 13:41.800
+So when you when you plot what those 14 million saved lives look like on these graphs,
+
+13:41.800 --> 13:45.480
+that's the kind of thing that they're actually proposing.
+
+13:45.480 --> 13:50.320
+So when you put it in terms of all cause mortality, which is a hard number like that,
+
+13:50.320 --> 13:57.400
+you realize that what they're telling us to believe is absolutely absurd.
+
+13:57.400 --> 13:59.080
+Complete nonsense.
+
+13:59.080 --> 14:02.080
+There's there's there's never been any phenomenon like this.
+
+14:02.080 --> 14:04.080
+There's never been that kind of mortality.
+
+14:04.080 --> 14:14.240
+There's never been you know, waiting, having waves of a pandemic, supposedly a pandemic.
+
+14:14.240 --> 14:25.680
+And then after a couple of waves of it, all of a sudden the next resurgence of it is 10 times more intense in terms of causing mortality
+
+14:25.680 --> 14:31.800
+than the first waves of it were right at the time when you happen to be rolling out a vaccine.
+
+14:31.840 --> 14:34.360
+This is what they want us to believe.
+
+14:34.360 --> 14:44.600
+And the other striking feature of what we saw is that in fact, if you look closely in detail at the all cause mortality itself,
+
+14:44.600 --> 14:46.400
+you see the opposite of what they're saying.
+
+14:46.400 --> 14:50.120
+You see that it increases when you roll out the vaccine.
+
+14:50.120 --> 14:58.160
+So on the finer scale of actually looking at the data itself, we showed in the paper that you see these these these increases
+
+14:58.160 --> 15:05.960
+and not just regular increases and a higher kind of level, but also peaks when they roll out the the the boosters and so on.
+
+15:05.960 --> 15:09.360
+You get peaks and you know, I've written papers about that and so on.
+
+15:09.360 --> 15:14.880
+So we've actually calculated how many deaths are caused by the injections in other papers.
+
+15:14.880 --> 15:20.040
+But in this paper, we just wanted to show just how insane what they were proposing is.
+
+15:20.040 --> 15:26.120
+And so this this means, Jay, that they didn't have a reality check in their mind.
+
+15:26.120 --> 15:29.800
+They didn't bother to think, does this make any sense?
+
+15:29.800 --> 15:35.880
+Are we proposing something that is realistic, that that is believable in the real world?
+
+15:35.880 --> 15:39.240
+What does it look like in terms of the actual mortality that would have occurred?
+
+15:39.240 --> 15:43.000
+You know, they did they never question themselves in that regard.
+
+15:43.000 --> 15:47.440
+So it's it's crazy for that reason.
+
+15:47.440 --> 15:55.920
+And so we concluded in the paper, hey, we concluded, hey, how did this get through peer review?
+
+15:55.920 --> 16:03.520
+How did how did editors and reviewers and the authors themselves misguide them to this degree,
+
+16:03.520 --> 16:08.640
+misguide themselves to this degree or not see or not bother to think about what this meant?
+
+16:08.640 --> 16:12.880
+You know, it's funny, they even have in their paper, they even have a graph like that.
+
+16:12.880 --> 16:20.640
+Yes, they have deaths averted by vaccines direct in light blue and then deaths averted by vaccines
+
+16:20.640 --> 16:22.320
+indirect in green.
+
+16:22.320 --> 16:25.160
+Well, how would you indirectly avert death?
+
+16:25.160 --> 16:28.320
+Yeah, they're a mission or infection at all.
+
+16:28.320 --> 16:29.400
+Yeah, that's right.
+
+16:29.400 --> 16:36.280
+They're looking at two different mechanisms of that's infection, which the vaccine prevented you from.
+
+16:36.280 --> 16:41.240
+So there's one that you were where you die from getting sick from the infection.
+
+16:41.240 --> 16:45.120
+And there's one where there's more deaths because there were more infections.
+
+16:45.120 --> 16:49.720
+So the transmission, if you like, they have a transmission component in there as well.
+
+16:49.760 --> 16:55.960
+And so basically, their calculation is in two steps.
+
+16:55.960 --> 17:04.760
+They have to have a scenario for how the spread, how the pandemic would have evolved in time.
+
+17:04.760 --> 17:09.880
+So that has to involve spread, their model of spread.
+
+17:09.880 --> 17:16.000
+And then they have this idea of how many of those people who get infected would likely get very sick and die.
+
+17:16.040 --> 17:22.600
+And then they have to fold in that they were vaccinated and there's a certain
+
+17:22.600 --> 17:25.360
+efficacy for that vaccine against being very sick.
+
+17:25.360 --> 17:26.960
+So they would have been saved.
+
+17:26.960 --> 17:32.840
+And so they have to fold all that in to calculate how many people would have been saved.
+
+17:32.840 --> 17:39.120
+So there's a certain degree of preventing spread of the vaccine, if you like.
+
+17:39.120 --> 17:43.120
+So they fold that in to prevent the spread part, you see.
+
+17:43.120 --> 17:46.360
+And so this is what they're doing.
+
+17:46.360 --> 18:01.240
+And even in that part of their work, you can easily be very critical because one of the things they do to predict spread is they take the reproduction number, the R number,
+
+18:01.240 --> 18:07.880
+to be what you get from a first look at number of cases versus time.
+
+18:07.960 --> 18:14.160
+And then they keep that R number throughout, which is kind of crazy, OK?
+
+18:14.160 --> 18:31.000
+So they apply a method that gives them a virus, if you like, that spreads much more and is more virulent at that time later on.
+
+18:31.000 --> 18:37.000
+That's in the end what they have to have because they have to have a lot of presumed deaths
+
+18:37.000 --> 18:38.960
+that you have to save people from.
+
+18:38.960 --> 18:49.080
+So they were not very critical of their own approach when it came to predicting the degree to which this thing would spread in the future.
+
+18:49.080 --> 18:56.640
+In the future, you see, they have to do all of this to get these huge numbers, OK?
+
+18:56.640 --> 18:59.800
+So it's just bad, bad science.
+
+18:59.840 --> 19:10.080
+And I mean, it puts in doubt the whole publication process at this top journal.
+
+19:10.080 --> 19:16.560
+And every time a paper like this gets published, you have to wonder, what were the reviewers thinking?
+
+19:16.560 --> 19:18.040
+Who were these reviewers?
+
+19:18.040 --> 19:28.120
+How could they be so blind and incompetent and unquestioning of what some authors are doing that is completely novel and completely fabricated?
+
+19:28.120 --> 19:29.760
+How could they be so unquestioning?
+
+19:29.760 --> 19:31.240
+Are they not able to see it?
+
+19:31.240 --> 19:33.440
+Are they incompetent?
+
+19:33.440 --> 19:36.680
+And on the other hand, what about the editors?
+
+19:36.680 --> 19:39.240
+How did the editors pick these reviewers?
+
+19:39.240 --> 19:46.600
+Did the editors go with only the reviewers that thought it was OK and ignore the reviewers that were critical of it?
+
+19:46.600 --> 19:51.560
+What were the editors doing to get this thing through?
+
+19:51.560 --> 19:57.600
+And the editors, are they themselves scientifically illiterate to be able to do this?
+
+19:57.920 --> 20:02.520
+To do a theoretical calculation and never, Feynman is a great physicist.
+
+20:02.520 --> 20:06.160
+And he would always bring us back to the common sense.
+
+20:06.160 --> 20:10.000
+Does this make any kind of freaking sense, right?
+
+20:10.000 --> 20:14.320
+And you have to do that constantly when you're doing theoretical projections.
+
+20:14.320 --> 20:23.520
+You have to ask yourself, wait a minute, would the radius of the Earth need to be 10 times what it is for this to be true?
+
+20:23.600 --> 20:28.760
+In that case, maybe I should rethink about what I just did here.
+
+20:28.760 --> 20:31.960
+And so that's what you have to...
+
+20:31.960 --> 20:33.680
+That's how scientists have to behave.
+
+20:33.680 --> 20:40.800
+They have to be critical of their own ideas, not just rub their hands because they get something that gates will like.
+
+20:40.800 --> 20:44.400
+And therefore, let's go with it because we know the editors will accept it.
+
+20:44.400 --> 20:46.800
+So that's my critique of that paper.
+
+20:46.800 --> 20:52.360
+But then there's another level of critique, which is once that paper is published,
+
+20:52.360 --> 20:56.640
+what the Nobel Prize Committee people who selected this prize,
+
+20:56.640 --> 21:04.040
+they were obviously affected by this paper and this idea that millions of lives were saved.
+
+21:04.040 --> 21:06.880
+Are these people scientifically illiterate?
+
+21:06.880 --> 21:15.200
+Are they not able to question themselves and say there's a claim out there that millions of lives were saved?
+
+21:15.200 --> 21:17.280
+What's it based on?
+
+21:17.280 --> 21:21.000
+We need to examine this and we need to do some fact checking
+
+21:21.000 --> 21:25.760
+because after all, we are the Nobel Committee that's going to give the prize in medicine.
+
+21:25.760 --> 21:29.520
+So let's give this a good, thorough look at.
+
+21:29.520 --> 21:31.120
+No, no, they didn't do that.
+
+21:31.120 --> 21:34.520
+In their press release, they talked about millions of lives saved.
+
+21:34.520 --> 21:40.120
+And essentially, that means this is one of the reasons that this is a valid Nobel Prize, right?
+
+21:40.120 --> 21:46.880
+So the Nobel Prize Committee itself had to be clueless, had to be unscientific,
+
+21:46.880 --> 21:53.960
+had to be unquestioning, had to look for something, a prize they wanted to give
+
+21:53.960 --> 21:58.560
+and not bother thinking for themselves about whether or not this made any sense.
+
+21:58.560 --> 22:03.600
+And then they repeated this millions of lives saved thing, which is nonsense.
+
+22:03.600 --> 22:06.600
+And so the Nobel Prize Committee was at fault.
+
+22:06.600 --> 22:15.200
+All the leading media were at fault, you know, the trend leading media, they were all at fault.
+
+22:15.240 --> 22:18.320
+The reviewers were at fault, the editors published it were at fault,
+
+22:18.320 --> 22:22.520
+and the authors of the article were at fault.
+
+22:22.520 --> 22:28.880
+It's a complete meltdown of the whole establishment of science when you have this kind of crap
+
+22:28.880 --> 22:36.080
+being produced, submitted, accepted, and then talked about uncritically,
+
+22:36.080 --> 22:42.360
+and then media who affect public opinion just repeating this stuff.
+
+22:42.360 --> 22:47.920
+And as though it were some big truth about the world, that millions of lives were saved.
+
+22:47.920 --> 22:51.920
+Complete nonsense.
+
+22:51.920 --> 22:54.120
+That's what I wanted to tell you about.
+
+22:54.120 --> 22:55.120
+I think it's beautiful.
+
+22:55.120 --> 23:00.720
+I think the thing that gets me is trying to get this to the way my neighbors can understand it.
+
+23:00.720 --> 23:07.400
+Yesterday, I kind of struck gold with saying that what they've told you in 2020
+
+23:07.400 --> 23:10.640
+is that there's a new cause of death on the planet.
+
+23:10.680 --> 23:17.320
+It wasn't there before and is there now that contributes more death than there would be.
+
+23:17.320 --> 23:19.640
+And we don't see that in the math.
+
+23:19.640 --> 23:24.480
+There's no new cause of death that we can see as a signal.
+
+23:24.480 --> 23:29.400
+And except for these these protocols and stuff, but that's not a new cause of death.
+
+23:29.400 --> 23:37.360
+And so my question is, in your many years, analyzing all of these countries,
+
+23:37.360 --> 23:44.160
+does the United States really stand out as a country that has a number of geographic anomalies
+
+23:44.160 --> 23:48.760
+in all cause mortality that aren't present in other places?
+
+23:48.760 --> 23:50.040
+Are we just a big country?
+
+23:50.040 --> 23:52.480
+And that's the way it is?
+
+23:52.480 --> 24:00.160
+Oh, well, we're preparing now our next paper, which will be pretty much about the entire world.
+
+24:00.160 --> 24:02.760
+We've got a lot of countries on every continent,
+
+24:02.760 --> 24:07.160
+and we'll be explaining the systematics of what happened in the world.
+
+24:07.160 --> 24:13.280
+In our next paper, but the USA was was very similar to Europe taken as a whole.
+
+24:13.280 --> 24:16.240
+As I showed in this latest paper, we saw some graphs to that effect.
+
+24:16.240 --> 24:22.400
+OK, but when you go country to country in Europe or even state to state within the United States,
+
+24:22.400 --> 24:28.760
+you get jurisdictions that are nothing like the average for the entire United States
+
+24:28.760 --> 24:34.360
+or the average for all of Europe, OK, where you have much less, much less mortality
+
+24:34.360 --> 24:41.160
+and you have no excess mortality in places where just a neighboring state might have a huge peak in mortality.
+
+24:41.160 --> 24:46.000
+You see, so it's it's incredibly heterogeneous, the mortality.
+
+24:46.000 --> 24:52.560
+And there are there on every continent, there are countries that virtually nothing happened
+
+24:52.560 --> 24:55.200
+until they rolled out the vaccine.
+
+24:55.200 --> 24:58.400
+So you can directly see in the all cause mortality.
+
+24:58.400 --> 25:03.680
+And this is true to some degree of certain states, it's largely true for Canada.
+
+25:03.680 --> 25:11.560
+And it's it's very clearly true for a lot of countries, unambiguously true that you you cannot detect
+
+25:11.560 --> 25:14.840
+and excess mortality until they roll out the vaccines.
+
+25:14.840 --> 25:21.120
+Then you get a surge in all calls in in additional all cause mortality above the historic trend.
+
+25:21.120 --> 25:26.200
+And then when they roll out these particularly dangerous boosters, you get an extra peak,
+
+25:26.200 --> 25:29.480
+especially among the elderly every time they roll one out.
+
+25:29.480 --> 25:31.480
+So you see all that.
+
+25:31.520 --> 25:36.240
+So in other words, the mortality becomes much more uniform in its behavior
+
+25:36.240 --> 25:39.520
+when they start rolling out the vaccines in twenty twenty one,
+
+25:39.520 --> 25:43.320
+because then you've got kind of a uniform cause of death, if you like.
+
+25:43.320 --> 25:47.480
+And they're not being as aggressive with all the protocols and the lockdowns
+
+25:47.480 --> 25:52.640
+and the the political actions and so on against people and they open up the economy.
+
+25:52.640 --> 25:53.960
+So they normalize things.
+
+25:53.960 --> 25:59.600
+So the causes of death that were very prevalent and very heterogeneous
+
+25:59.640 --> 26:05.560
+in before they were vaccinating are kind of are dissipated or gone.
+
+26:05.560 --> 26:12.160
+And then in during the rollouts, the main cause of death, the extra cause of death is the vaccines themselves.
+
+26:12.160 --> 26:19.720
+And so you get a much more regular behavior when you're looking at the world, you see that heterogeneity pretty much disappears.
+
+26:19.720 --> 26:22.920
+Basically, you have deaths where you rolled out vaccines.
+
+26:22.920 --> 26:28.520
+So, for example, in India, their vaccine, their initial vaccine rollout was three months late.
+
+26:28.920 --> 26:36.560
+Well, they didn't have any excess mortality until they actually rolled out that late vaccine and then it surges up.
+
+26:36.560 --> 26:41.480
+So it really follows the vaccines.
+
+26:43.440 --> 26:48.080
+And the most important point from from our studies up till now,
+
+26:48.080 --> 26:55.880
+one of the most important points is that the risk of dying per injection increases exponentially with age.
+
+26:55.920 --> 26:59.600
+So it gets very, very high as you get very elderly.
+
+27:01.040 --> 27:05.800
+And so this is a vaccine that is particularly toxic for the elderly.
+
+27:06.320 --> 27:11.120
+And that and that is in complete opposition to the idea that we should
+
+27:12.640 --> 27:16.120
+particularly give it to the elderly to protect them, right?
+
+27:17.240 --> 27:20.840
+Preferentially give it to them, make sure they get every booster and everything.
+
+27:21.280 --> 27:29.440
+That's that's a nasty, nasty thing in terms of the very real risk of dying that we have quantified.
+
+27:30.240 --> 27:38.160
+If you know, it's, I think, one of these things that you can chalk up to the TV common sense.
+
+27:38.160 --> 27:42.920
+Remember, they said, well, masks do some, they must do something so you might as well wear them.
+
+27:43.480 --> 27:47.760
+And these shots, if they're going to help somebody, we want to help the most vulnerable
+
+27:48.200 --> 27:51.800
+without thinking that the shots themselves could be too dangerous for them.
+
+27:52.880 --> 27:55.440
+Yes, it's horrible.
+
+27:55.440 --> 28:00.840
+And, you know, it's it's scientifically, it makes no sense that they would not think
+
+28:01.200 --> 28:07.040
+of the increased toxicity of the vaccines for the elderly, because there's a lot of toxic
+
+28:07.440 --> 28:11.680
+ecology out there. It's an entire field of research where they study, you know,
+
+28:11.680 --> 28:17.200
+poisonings and overdoses, and they they do animal studies where they inject a certain
+
+28:17.760 --> 28:24.560
+known quantity, a constant quantity of a dangerous substance into the animal to see if they'll die
+
+28:24.560 --> 28:30.720
+or not and how sick they get and so on. And all of those studies show that the older the animal is,
+
+28:30.720 --> 28:35.760
+including humans, the more likely their chance of dying from from that exposure.
+
+28:36.320 --> 28:42.480
+And so this is extremely well known, and it locks in with the idea that your your immune system
+
+28:43.920 --> 28:49.440
+deteriorates quite a lot as you get older and is more fragile in the sense that if you change an
+
+28:49.440 --> 28:56.000
+elderly person's nutrition, if they go to a home and they're what they eat is completely different
+
+28:56.000 --> 29:02.160
+than the gut biome changes and that has a dramatic effect on the immune system and on their general
+
+29:02.160 --> 29:08.720
+health and so on. So these fragilities are much higher for elderly people than they are for younger
+
+29:08.720 --> 29:16.720
+adults and children. So this is this is not new. This is this is extremely well known. It's it's just
+
+29:18.080 --> 29:24.640
+criminally irresponsible to have developed a policy that we need to absolutely prioritize the elderly
+
+29:24.640 --> 29:32.640
+for this injection without ever doing a trial to see is to see if as a function of age, there is a
+
+29:32.640 --> 29:38.400
+higher risk of adverse effects. No trial was specifically designed to answer that question
+
+29:38.960 --> 29:45.680
+to my knowledge. And so this is this is criminally irresponsible, especially now that we
+
+29:45.680 --> 29:50.160
+know from the all cause mortality that it's a huge effect. It's a huge effect.
+
+29:51.120 --> 29:58.160
+And you went in Canada, you guys went pretty hardcore. I mean, I'm like full on and the people
+
+29:58.160 --> 30:05.360
+that bought into it bought into it big time, right? I mean, this is yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a very
+
+30:05.360 --> 30:14.960
+high vaccination rate, very aligned unipolar propaganda, intense control of the major media.
+
+30:15.520 --> 30:23.280
+Um, crazy. Yeah, it's it's heartbreaking, really. And and I don't know where it's going to go, but
+
+30:23.280 --> 30:29.280
+it's I think it's going to get pretty hairy in America. I don't know how this is all going to
+
+30:29.840 --> 30:38.480
+pan out because the it is really a a schism of of Grand Canyon proportions now. It's really like some
+
+30:38.480 --> 30:45.600
+of us think there are Martians and some of us don't. It's it's it's that bad. Right. Well,
+
+30:46.640 --> 30:52.240
+it's good that a lot of people well, you can't not have a lot of people being aware because an
+
+30:52.240 --> 31:00.640
+awful lot of people were harmed by the by the injections. And it's easy to think that your
+
+31:00.640 --> 31:06.640
+parent or grandparent died of natural causes in the home after even though they had been vaccinated
+
+31:06.640 --> 31:11.040
+recently, it's easy to think that and you want to protect yourself because you allowed it. So
+
+31:11.040 --> 31:16.000
+it's easy to think that. But a lot of elderly people would have died directly as a result of
+
+31:16.000 --> 31:22.640
+being inject injected. So that's harder to see. But there's a lot of young adults and children
+
+31:22.640 --> 31:28.880
+and so on who have been harmed significantly, not not the huge numbers that you have among the elderly,
+
+31:28.880 --> 31:35.920
+but still a lot. And that you you really notice it. And it's not just deaths. It's it's a
+
+31:35.920 --> 31:44.160
+permanent disability, heart conditions, you name it. So this ends up creating a a group of
+
+31:44.160 --> 31:50.560
+aware people who really feel that the government did them wrong. I mean, it's the basis for
+
+31:51.520 --> 31:57.280
+the opposition against childhood vaccinations is that, you know, the a lot of parents have
+
+31:57.280 --> 32:04.480
+had their children permanently harmed by these injections. And they understand and they have
+
+32:04.480 --> 32:10.080
+come to believe from personal experience from observing their child that this is real. And
+
+32:10.080 --> 32:15.760
+this was nasty. And it should never happen to anyone. And that is the basis for things like
+
+32:15.760 --> 32:24.160
+Children's Health Defense and and the Canadian equivalent of it and so on. So it's a movement
+
+32:24.160 --> 32:30.160
+when you it movements are based on people being abused seriously by the government or by powerful
+
+32:30.160 --> 32:36.880
+forces. And that creates a desire to want to defend yourself. And that's that's the basis of
+
+32:36.880 --> 32:41.760
+movements. So I think there is, for a long time, there will be a movement of that type.
+
+32:42.640 --> 32:48.000
+I don't think very many people move in the opposite direction. The only one that I know of is a guy
+
+32:48.000 --> 32:55.520
+by the name of Dan Wilson, debunk the funk is his name on YouTube. And he claims to have been
+
+32:55.920 --> 33:02.560
+a conspiracy theorist, and now come back to the good side and believes in in vaccines and everything.
+
+33:04.960 --> 33:10.240
+Yeah, I don't I don't know what to say other than if if we can get your paper
+
+33:11.760 --> 33:15.840
+onto the defender, we're going to do it again, because I think this is really one of these.
+
+33:15.840 --> 33:21.760
+It is really absurd, but it's it's it was sort of a ball that somebody had to hit out of the
+
+33:21.840 --> 33:28.480
+park, because you can't make these kinds of claims and and not have them not have them lampooned.
+
+33:28.480 --> 33:36.560
+I mean, it's really, it's shocking, really, it really is shocking, if you think about it, that
+
+33:37.280 --> 33:42.640
+people still haven't been able to get their head around the idea that they what they told us versus
+
+33:42.640 --> 33:49.440
+what actually happened. Jay, Jay, Jake, here's an injection that they're going to force on
+
+33:50.400 --> 33:55.280
+billions of people. They're basically going to force you to take this, they're going to
+
+33:55.280 --> 33:59.840
+coerce you in every possible way, you can lose your job and so on and so on, make you feel guilty
+
+33:59.840 --> 34:04.560
+if you're not protecting the people around you and all this thing, they're going to completely
+
+34:04.560 --> 34:10.000
+coerce you to take this to accept that the that the state is going to inject this substance into
+
+34:10.000 --> 34:18.240
+your body. And it turns out that substance has no benefit for you whatsoever that can be detected
+
+34:18.320 --> 34:25.360
+by hard numbers. And not only that, it has a definite risk of making you either very disabled
+
+34:25.360 --> 34:34.240
+or dead. Okay, that's the situation. And then, after you've basically completed this huge military
+
+34:34.240 --> 34:38.960
+style campaign where you've injected everyone and you've done these and it's had all these horrible
+
+34:38.960 --> 34:46.880
+consequences, then you give the Nobel Prize to someone who was who whose fundamental work was
+
+34:47.600 --> 34:54.880
+part of presumably what have developed this vaccine. And then you have everyone scream up
+
+34:54.880 --> 35:00.240
+and down the Nobel Committee and everybody saying, this is so wonderful because it's saved millions
+
+35:00.240 --> 35:09.360
+of lives. It's saved millions of lives. The same substance that poisoned us, and that is this
+
+35:09.360 --> 35:15.600
+horrendous product that should never been injected into people's bodies, is now something that we're
+
+35:15.600 --> 35:21.920
+going to celebrate. It's going to be an achievement of human science of the science created by humans.
+
+35:21.920 --> 35:27.040
+It's going to go into all the textbooks, we're going to teach it at school, and it has saved
+
+35:27.040 --> 35:32.560
+millions of lives. This is this is the mantra that we're going to hear over and over again.
+
+35:32.560 --> 35:40.800
+And that mantra is based on what it's based on nothing. There is no scientific basis for saying
+
+35:40.800 --> 35:48.000
+that whatsoever. No clinical trials have ever demonstrated that. And it's based on a garbage
+
+35:48.000 --> 35:55.440
+simulation funded by the industry for God's sakes, where the authors didn't even double check if their
+
+35:55.440 --> 36:03.040
+results made any kind of freaking sense. This is this is the absurdity that we're now experiencing.
+
+36:03.040 --> 36:08.800
+So of course, I have to scream it on every rooftop. Of course, I have to write a paper where I
+
+36:09.520 --> 36:16.000
+calmly explain this is how you do this calculation. This is what it looks like if you actually
+
+36:16.000 --> 36:21.360
+project what it means in terms of real deaths. These are what the grass looks like. This is
+
+36:21.360 --> 36:28.160
+what they're claiming, folks. This is what they're claiming. And and try to try to explain to people
+
+36:28.160 --> 36:36.000
+that it's just insane to think that this this pathogen would have started being
+
+36:36.000 --> 36:41.680
+10 or 20 times more violent right at the time when they happen to roll out the vaccines. You
+
+36:41.680 --> 36:47.840
+have to believe that. I mean, this is all just there's layers and layers of insane here. And
+
+36:47.840 --> 36:52.720
+every time they make a statement, the reg flags should go up. If you're a thinking scientist,
+
+36:52.720 --> 36:59.680
+you should be saying, what? Where's that coming from? How can you even say that? You know, you
+
+36:59.680 --> 37:05.600
+should you should be ridiculed in your department. There's you know, when you go to coffee at the
+
+37:05.600 --> 37:11.440
+staff meeting, they should snicker at you and say, you actually wrote this paper. Did you see what
+
+37:11.440 --> 37:16.160
+it look? I'm looking at figure three here. Does this make any kind of sense? You know, they should
+
+37:16.160 --> 37:24.480
+be ridiculed. And normally, in a society that is healthy, that has democracy, that has professional
+
+37:24.480 --> 37:31.360
+independence, they would be ridiculed. But we are at such an advanced state of people just want to
+
+37:31.360 --> 37:38.160
+protect their careers. We're into totalitarianism. We're into, you know, a society that doesn't have
+
+37:38.160 --> 37:42.320
+independent thinkers. And it's not you're not rewarded in any way. If you're an independent
+
+37:42.320 --> 37:49.040
+thinker, you're you're in fact, you're penalized for it severely. And so that's the society that
+
+37:49.040 --> 37:54.560
+we have now. So scientists can't even ridicule each other. I mean, there used to be, when I was a
+
+37:54.560 --> 38:00.000
+staff member at the university, we would have fights because we would we would make fun of each
+
+38:00.000 --> 38:06.080
+other's work and and question each other's work and people get really insulted. That was healthy.
+
+38:06.080 --> 38:10.800
+That was a good thing. Because you would go back and think, eh, maybe he's right, you know, I better
+
+38:10.800 --> 38:15.120
+I better not I better think twice before I say that again at the next conference, you know,
+
+38:16.080 --> 38:22.800
+none of that happens now. Everyone's aligned with vaccines are wonderful and, you know, pharma is
+
+38:22.800 --> 38:28.800
+saving lives and, you know, all of this stuff, including the scientists and academics. Where are
+
+38:28.800 --> 38:36.160
+the critics? Where are they? Yeah, I would I would go so far as to say that I would follow up on what
+
+38:36.160 --> 38:42.640
+you just said is that when I first started in academic science, I remember that the old men
+
+38:42.640 --> 38:49.200
+and women in the back of the of the room would often just be creeps and say, why should I even
+
+38:49.200 --> 38:54.240
+care about this? I just sat in here for 45 minutes and I don't know why I should care about this.
+
+38:54.800 --> 39:03.040
+And nobody would ever critique science on that level anymore. And I saw it very clearly because
+
+39:03.040 --> 39:08.640
+this Drew Weisman guy has been going around talking about his technology for the last 14
+
+39:08.640 --> 39:14.640
+months. You can go and see all of these lectures that led up to the Nobel Prize. And if you listen
+
+39:14.640 --> 39:22.160
+to his discussions of immunology and his discussions of how these things work for him, it's really as
+
+39:22.160 --> 39:29.600
+simple as previous vaccines used to give us some antibodies. And my mRNA gives us 50 times more.
+
+39:29.600 --> 39:35.920
+So it has to be better. And it's the that's the end of the story. Yes. And it's extraordinary
+
+39:36.480 --> 39:42.080
+how you have this roomful of people that doesn't go, isn't that a little bit too simple? Isn't that
+
+39:42.080 --> 39:48.240
+assuming, you know, a lot? Assuming layers and layers of things. Yes, seriously, layers and layers
+
+39:48.240 --> 39:55.680
+of things. Yes. So it's, it's, it's crazy. It's crazy that the establishment will pick on a bogus
+
+39:55.680 --> 40:03.600
+argument like that and amplify it and not mention anything else. And that becomes the supposedly
+
+40:03.760 --> 40:11.120
+educated view of the subject. It's insane. It's like, you know, the biggest arguments I've had about
+
+40:11.120 --> 40:16.240
+against I've had with people who believed in masks and believed in the COVID measures and the
+
+40:16.240 --> 40:22.480
+distancing, the biggest arguments I've had were with very educated people, engineers and people
+
+40:22.480 --> 40:27.840
+like that, who had just read everything and listened to everything. And because they understood
+
+40:27.840 --> 40:33.920
+the arguments that were being made, they thought that they understood what was going on. In other
+
+40:33.920 --> 40:38.240
+words, they didn't think to themselves, okay, I understand that, but is there more to it?
+
+40:38.240 --> 40:41.680
+Is there stuff that, is there questions I should be asking? Is there, you know, is there more to
+
+40:41.680 --> 40:46.800
+this than what I'm being explained in this cartoon and what's being told to me and these
+
+40:46.800 --> 40:50.720
+scientific papers that are written? What about, what about this other thing? What about this other
+
+40:50.720 --> 40:56.480
+fact? And is that part of it true? They didn't do that. No, they pleased themselves intellectually
+
+40:56.480 --> 41:01.680
+by understanding what was being presented to them. They could repeat it because they understood it,
+
+41:01.680 --> 41:07.840
+and therefore they became experts in this, and they would argue with you on that basis, you see.
+
+41:08.480 --> 41:12.160
+Knowing that there were plenty of people on Facebook and TV to back them up,
+
+41:12.720 --> 41:16.480
+that they could point to and say, but these people all agree with me. So it's this.
+
+41:16.480 --> 41:22.480
+And scientists as well, who written all these papers that is based on. So these are the people
+
+41:22.560 --> 41:26.080
+that you have to argue with. They're, they're people who have tunnel vision,
+
+41:26.880 --> 41:32.560
+and who reinforce their tunnel vision by the fact that they can understand technical arguments.
+
+41:33.600 --> 41:39.040
+You see, so it's very, it's very, it's a, it's a, it's a crazy world out there.
+
+41:39.600 --> 41:44.720
+It definitely is. And then you have the other extreme of people who understand things very
+
+41:44.720 --> 41:52.160
+clearly, who are typically working class or from different professions, and their response to my
+
+41:52.160 --> 41:59.120
+detailed proofs that this is all garbage is, well, that's obvious. I could have told you that.
+
+41:59.120 --> 42:03.200
+I knew that right away because of this and because of that. And they're often quite right.
+
+42:03.200 --> 42:09.040
+They've got the big picture, you know. And so I'm kind of working between those two extremes
+
+42:09.040 --> 42:14.640
+where I'm trying to help the people who already know to know that there are really rigorous
+
+42:14.640 --> 42:21.280
+arguments that you can rely on, and to stab the people in the eye that think they already know
+
+42:21.280 --> 42:25.120
+by pointing out that they're making these fundamental errors. So I'm kind of working in
+
+42:25.120 --> 42:33.840
+the middle there in our work, you know. Yep. I think this is all, it's all work that has to be
+
+42:33.840 --> 42:40.560
+done very slowly because even, even myself, I know that before the pandemic, I didn't know
+
+42:40.560 --> 42:44.800
+how many people died every year in America. I didn't know how many people died every week.
+
+42:45.440 --> 42:50.160
+And so when these numbers came out, I really had to work very hard to find any context for them
+
+42:50.160 --> 42:56.160
+because as this, this picture that I just had up there a second ago of the elanset paper,
+
+42:56.160 --> 43:02.240
+it starts from zero. And then there's just a bunch of COVID people. And so you don't have
+
+43:02.240 --> 43:08.480
+an idea of the context of how those numbers are being generated and how many of them overlap with
+
+43:08.480 --> 43:16.480
+expected deaths. And so most people won't ask themselves those questions. Right. Because they're
+
+43:16.480 --> 43:22.400
+so pleased that they understood the graph that's being presented to them that, you know, that suffices
+
+43:22.400 --> 43:28.400
+for them. They're not, they're not, they're not questioning. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's just, it's
+
+43:28.400 --> 43:35.200
+crazy. I think that people, you know, get, get as far as maybe they hear 5,000 people died of COVID
+
+43:35.200 --> 43:41.280
+this week in America. And they might get as far as to divide by 50 states and try to think of
+
+43:41.280 --> 43:44.800
+how many people in that, but they don't, they don't ever get to the stage where they're like,
+
+43:44.800 --> 43:52.480
+oh, wait, they expected between 50 and 60,000 to die this week. Oh, and now that puts 5,000
+
+43:52.480 --> 43:56.640
+into context. Now, how many of those actually died of a respiratory disease? You know, and it's
+
+43:56.640 --> 44:03.840
+none. So now you have a real problem. Or, you know, it's all, all pneumonia, but it is a real,
+
+44:05.200 --> 44:11.200
+it's something that honestly, I don't think Danny, we could have seen until maybe 2022 though.
+
+44:11.920 --> 44:19.600
+And 2023 now, hindsight is clearer because they were holding back deaths in 2020. They were holding
+
+44:19.600 --> 44:25.120
+back. Right. I heard that. They were reporting them. And so even what, what Jessica sees now is
+
+44:25.120 --> 44:29.520
+clear. I don't, I don't completely agree. I, I, I know that it's true that they were, it took them
+
+44:29.520 --> 44:34.880
+a while to, to get all the deaths into their records and they were updating and it was, there
+
+44:34.880 --> 44:42.160
+was some significant adjustments as they were updating, but the actual initial peak that surged
+
+44:42.160 --> 44:48.640
+in certain hotspots right away, that was clear from the beginning. It was clear that, and it was
+
+44:48.640 --> 44:54.560
+clear given the heterogeneity of that, you know, spatially, that it was only happening in hotspots
+
+44:54.560 --> 45:01.600
+and, and that this couldn't be a spreading, a spreading viral respiratory disease. The fact
+
+45:01.680 --> 45:08.400
+that it was happening synchronously around the world, that you could see it right away in Italy,
+
+45:09.200 --> 45:16.080
+Stockholm, New York and Madrid and so on, that it was synchronous with the political announcement
+
+45:16.080 --> 45:22.480
+of the, of the pandemic. I don't care about the details of it. Maybe the numbers aren't quite
+
+45:22.480 --> 45:28.080
+right because they haven't tabulated everything yet. A synchronous incredible surge in mortality
+
+45:28.080 --> 45:35.760
+that occurs when you announce a pandemic is impossible to be from a spreading viral respiratory
+
+45:35.760 --> 45:44.480
+disease. And I said that in June of 2020 and it has held true throughout all of my work. Okay.
+
+45:44.480 --> 45:50.480
+And so even though there were these difficulties in terms of tabulating, you could tell things
+
+45:50.480 --> 45:58.400
+right away. And I did, I did, I saw those things right away. Do you, there were hotspots though,
+
+45:58.400 --> 46:04.880
+hotspots of death or? Yes, that's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. I mean, I mean,
+
+46:04.880 --> 46:12.960
+all cause mortality. Yeah. And then when the data became more clear, you could see that, okay, now
+
+46:12.960 --> 46:17.840
+that, now that we've got really good statistics, there are in those states where I thought,
+
+46:17.840 --> 46:23.520
+at first, you're not seeing any kind of a surge, anything like New York State and Vermont and so
+
+46:23.520 --> 46:29.440
+on. Okay, there's a little blip there and it's statistically significant, you know, but overall
+
+46:29.440 --> 46:37.440
+the picture was exactly what you were seeing at the beginning within almost weeks, you could see it.
+
+46:38.560 --> 46:45.360
+And so thinking epidemiologists could know right away that this story was bogus.
+
+46:46.000 --> 46:52.560
+But most of the mainstream, most of the mainstream media was using like a nationwide average. And so
+
+46:52.560 --> 46:57.440
+these few hotspots were sufficient to, to blab about spread, right? I mean,
+
+46:58.960 --> 47:03.920
+no, well, that, that doesn't demonstrate spread. No, but that's what they, they kind of just said
+
+47:03.920 --> 47:09.840
+that then the United States, there are new, they don't say a lot of things and you're supposed to
+
+47:09.840 --> 47:15.120
+presume that the, that the, that the notion of spread and the virus and everything is, is the
+
+47:15.120 --> 47:19.200
+correct notion, right? That's, they play that game all the time. But I mean, there were super
+
+47:19.200 --> 47:23.440
+spread. I mean, you can't, you can't question that. There were super spreader events. I mean,
+
+47:23.440 --> 47:29.120
+so spreading definitely happens. Right, right, right. There was a lot of crazy stuff. But you
+
+47:29.120 --> 47:34.320
+know, when you read the old epidemiology literature of a hundred years ago and so on, these people
+
+47:34.320 --> 47:44.240
+were common sense, clever scientists. They, they would have immediately said they're talking garbage.
+
+47:44.240 --> 47:49.920
+This shouldn't even be allowed to be told to the public. This is, this really is misinformation.
+
+47:49.920 --> 47:55.360
+And please, you know, please talk to the experts, the real experts. They would have just, they would
+
+47:55.360 --> 48:00.400
+have just said, no, this is crazy. I'm, you know, I'm coming out of the grave here. I'm one of the
+
+48:00.400 --> 48:06.080
+founders of epidemiology. And I want to tell you, this is garbage. You know,
+
+48:08.400 --> 48:13.680
+but they don't do that anymore. I mean, epidemiology has been hijacked in a way. And the people that
+
+48:13.680 --> 48:20.640
+are, it doesn't, as far as I could see, it's almost non-existent now. The people used to try to
+
+48:20.640 --> 48:28.400
+understand disease on large scale from the large scale observations and really try to infer what
+
+48:28.400 --> 48:34.000
+could be happening. And there was a lot of that kind of very fundamental work. And it just doesn't
+
+48:34.000 --> 48:41.840
+exist anymore. You're only allowed to look at whether people die according to their race. And
+
+48:41.840 --> 48:49.200
+whether, you know, poor, more poor people die. And if there's a correlation to your financial
+
+48:49.200 --> 48:52.720
+status and things like that, there's certain things that are allowed that you can look at.
+
+48:52.800 --> 48:58.320
+We think fundamentally about the nature of death and disease and so on.
+
+48:59.760 --> 49:03.920
+Has this had much of an impact on you since you've been speaking out and getting your word out a
+
+49:03.920 --> 49:07.840
+little bit? Has it had any negative impacts for you? Are you pretty independent and okay?
+
+49:09.280 --> 49:12.080
+Oh, you mean negative impacts on my person and my family?
+
+49:12.080 --> 49:13.280
+Yeah, if I can ask, yeah.
+
+49:13.920 --> 49:19.200
+Oh, yeah. No, no, no. This has not to, I'm not conscious of it if it has.
+
+49:19.760 --> 49:28.160
+You know, this has been very positive for me because I've always been this way. I've always
+
+49:28.160 --> 49:33.200
+challenged the dominant views in any scientific field that I've entered. So I'm a fighter,
+
+49:33.200 --> 49:38.400
+I love doing this kind of thing. And I've done it all the time. I did it for more than a decade on
+
+49:38.400 --> 49:45.040
+the cold global warming stuff. And I could go through a history of all the areas of science
+
+49:45.040 --> 49:49.840
+that I worked in where I challenged the dominant paradigms. So this is what I do.
+
+49:50.640 --> 49:58.720
+And so, but this, the beauty of this time around is that the public was really involved in the
+
+49:58.720 --> 50:05.360
+discussion. So the things that I would normally have almost no public to hear me, except maybe on
+
+50:05.360 --> 50:10.320
+global warming and things, I gave some lectures and things like that. But all of a sudden,
+
+50:10.320 --> 50:15.680
+on social media, everyone wanted to hear about it. Everyone wanted to understand
+
+50:16.480 --> 50:21.600
+my scientific arguments. And I never, I never really encountered that on that scale, you know.
+
+50:22.240 --> 50:28.880
+So that was very, a very positive experience to see that there are all these people out there,
+
+50:28.880 --> 50:33.840
+even though the majority were maybe not of that group, even though the mainstream media didn't
+
+50:33.840 --> 50:38.880
+didn't do their job and were out of it, and the government was really misbehaving,
+
+50:38.960 --> 50:43.440
+nonetheless, there are all these people out there who are really thinking independently
+
+50:43.440 --> 50:50.000
+and who are starved to hear these arguments and these new perspectives and so on. And that was
+
+50:50.000 --> 50:57.120
+very refreshing, I have to say. Yeah, I really enjoyed that. I mean, when I would talk about
+
+50:58.000 --> 51:03.040
+global warming, I've done a lot of work on that and did a lot of physics calculations to demonstrate
+
+51:03.040 --> 51:08.800
+the magnitude of the effect and everything. And when I would talk about that, even among, even
+
+51:08.800 --> 51:14.240
+in a general kind of audience, like in a big auditorium or something, most people were very
+
+51:14.240 --> 51:18.480
+critical of what I was trying to say. They didn't really try to understand or really get it. They
+
+51:18.480 --> 51:25.760
+were just like, yeah, I guess I misread the title of this talk, this guy's a nut, you know. It was
+
+51:25.760 --> 51:35.680
+that kind of a response. But nowadays, it's the opposite. People will travel from far to hear
+
+51:35.680 --> 51:41.600
+you, and they don't have to travel when it's on the internet, obviously, but no, it was great.
+
+51:41.600 --> 51:50.240
+So I had never been in rallies where everybody, a huge public rally live in person, where people
+
+51:50.240 --> 51:56.000
+are interested to hear my views of my technical and scientific views about something. And they're
+
+51:56.000 --> 52:01.120
+like sitting on the edge of their seats listening to it, and then wanting to talk to me afterwards
+
+52:01.120 --> 52:08.720
+about science. I think I'd never seen that before. So that was a very positive experience for me.
+
+52:09.520 --> 52:20.720
+Now, in terms of my, you know, I am financially secure, independent, established life, married,
+
+52:20.720 --> 52:28.960
+all that kind of thing. So nothing, none of that has changed. So I didn't suffer a loss of employment
+
+52:28.960 --> 52:36.480
+or difficulties with family members or anything like that. A lot of my close family, my siblings,
+
+52:36.560 --> 52:42.400
+they completely agree that they're on the side of, you know, thinking that the masks and the
+
+52:42.400 --> 52:49.440
+vaccines are pretty crazy. So there were no big, there were no big battles on that front.
+
+52:51.440 --> 52:57.280
+I really think it would be important for you, if you have the time, maybe to come back and
+
+52:57.280 --> 53:03.920
+meet Jessica Hockett on this stream, because she has done so much work specifically on New York,
+
+53:03.920 --> 53:10.080
+and it would be interesting to talk to her because she sees like a 600% increase in mortality for
+
+53:10.080 --> 53:15.840
+like four weeks in New York, and that's all that ever happens there. She's still trying to figure
+
+53:15.840 --> 53:22.720
+that out. Well, I would have to look at the data and look at what she's doing and how she's starting
+
+53:22.720 --> 53:32.080
+to interpret it to really have a good discussion with her. I can already see lots of pitfalls and
+
+53:32.080 --> 53:37.280
+caveats when you try to do what she's trying to do. So I can foresee a lot of problems, you know,
+
+53:38.320 --> 53:43.840
+but I haven't had time to really look into detail at what she's doing. But I mean, it's great that
+
+53:43.840 --> 53:49.440
+she's digging into the data and representing it in different ways and trying to find out more
+
+53:49.440 --> 53:54.960
+information as well. It's great that she's doing all of that because New York was a very special
+
+53:54.960 --> 54:05.200
+place and in many ways, the state of New York, but also the major centers, hospitals, and so on,
+
+54:05.200 --> 54:12.400
+and how they were behaving. So it was a pretty special events there that were occurring, yes.
+
+54:14.000 --> 54:18.640
+Extraordinary, I don't know what to say. So your next paper is coming out of all
+
+54:18.640 --> 54:23.840
+countries in the world or many countries in the world? Yeah, we're hoping to get it out within
+
+54:23.840 --> 54:29.680
+a month or two. But I have to say, I'm going to a conference in Romania, an international conference
+
+54:30.320 --> 54:35.040
+on COVID, and we're going to speak at the parliaments. That's going to be a lot of fun.
+
+54:35.840 --> 54:40.720
+And we've got our plane tickets and two of my co-authors are going to be there as well.
+
+54:42.720 --> 54:48.480
+Yeah, it's going to be great. So that's taking up some of my time preparing that and they're going
+
+54:48.560 --> 54:54.240
+to publish a conference book about it and so on. That might slow me down a bit, but
+
+54:56.000 --> 54:58.720
+yeah, within a month or two, we should have that big paper out.
+
+54:59.440 --> 55:03.360
+A few months ago when I talked to you, one of the things that you were interested in
+
+55:04.080 --> 55:10.560
+understanding a little bit better was the library of genome sequences of the virus and
+
+55:10.560 --> 55:14.960
+all that business. Have you been able to spin your wheels in that at all?
+
+55:15.680 --> 55:24.400
+It's on my to-do list to figure out how PCR works in some detail. I mean, I have a bit of
+
+55:24.400 --> 55:32.080
+experience with wet chemistry and I know how you can fool yourself as a chemist easily.
+
+55:32.720 --> 55:38.960
+And I've read some of the background and I've read the inventors' criticisms of the technique
+
+55:38.960 --> 55:45.840
+and so on. So I know there are a lot of potential places where you can fool yourself easily.
+
+55:45.840 --> 55:51.680
+I've so often seen fields where people think that they are able to do something with a certain
+
+55:51.680 --> 55:57.280
+precision, but in fact, their accuracy is way off if you distinguish between precision and
+
+55:57.280 --> 56:02.880
+accuracy, right? So it's just so easy to fool yourself when you're using this kind of technology.
+
+56:03.440 --> 56:07.440
+And I suspect that a lot of that is happening. I suspect that
+
+56:07.440 --> 56:11.600
+there's a lot of things that they claim you can do that you can't really do.
+
+56:11.600 --> 56:15.040
+I don't know if you'd agree with me, but that's my feeling right now.
+
+56:16.320 --> 56:21.280
+I'm sure there's a lot of things you can do with some certainty in a robust way, but there's a lot
+
+56:21.280 --> 56:27.120
+of other things you can't do. And this has all been pushed by pharma, the whole development of the
+
+56:28.080 --> 56:34.080
+human genome sequencing, that whole project, all the funding. It's all a pharma project to
+
+56:34.800 --> 56:40.960
+legitimize more and more sophisticated drugs that supposedly you can target to the people that
+
+56:40.960 --> 56:45.760
+won't have bad reactions to them, and it will be beneficial to them if you know their genome,
+
+56:45.760 --> 56:52.480
+you know, this kind of stuff. This is the driving force behind this stuff. And let's face it,
+
+56:52.480 --> 56:58.000
+there was a Nobel Prize given for PCR, maybe not an accident from a political perspective,
+
+56:58.000 --> 57:03.360
+you know, as much as I appreciate the inventor and how brilliant he is and how critical he's
+
+57:03.360 --> 57:09.840
+been of things like AIDS and so on. Nonetheless, it was one of those things, you know. So,
+
+57:10.480 --> 57:17.360
+yeah, it's something I want to get into. I've got a list of about three or four really major
+
+57:17.360 --> 57:23.680
+research projects that I want to get into once I've done the emergency work around mortality.
+
+57:24.640 --> 57:30.240
+Very good. Yeah. I'm not letting it out of the bag what some of our
+
+57:31.200 --> 57:36.720
+next research is because it's going to be very, it's going to be breakthrough stuff.
+
+57:38.000 --> 57:42.400
+But I'm not, I don't want to let it out of the bag. I don't want to talk about it before it's
+
+57:42.400 --> 57:48.080
+time. Okay, well, very good. Then you save it up and we'll just, we'll wait and we'll hear
+
+57:48.080 --> 57:53.600
+it when it comes. And good luck on your travels. Thank you for joining me. It's been
+
+57:54.080 --> 58:02.320
+not surprising, also insightful again to have you here. And it's just, I don't know, it's lucky
+
+58:02.320 --> 58:06.480
+that we've got you. I don't know, somebody needed to do this work. You seem to be one of the only
+
+58:06.480 --> 58:11.840
+people who's doing it. So it's really, everybody's happy. Thanks for having me, Jay. I love your
+
+58:11.840 --> 58:18.640
+venue. I love the way you think. Thanks for having me. Yep. Have a good evening. Thanks. Bye.
+
+58:18.640 --> 58:26.960
+Bye. I don't know what the timing is like here. If the timing is really bad, then I'm just going
+
+58:26.960 --> 58:33.280
+to edit it and I'll fix it and maybe I'll stream it again. But I'll also put it on Vimeo and I'll
+
+58:33.280 --> 58:38.800
+put it on the website. I apologize. You know, I do think that they're starting to mess with me. So
+
+58:38.800 --> 58:43.680
+we're going to have to pull some different maneuvers, but I've got a bunch of tricks up my sleeve
+
+58:43.680 --> 58:49.440
+yet. So don't worry. We've got a whole YouTube channel that we haven't touched and is just waiting
+
+58:49.440 --> 58:54.240
+for us to pull the trigger on. And we have a rumble channel that we're not really filling yet. So
+
+58:54.240 --> 59:01.440
+there's a lot of places, a lot of space, a lot of, you know, artillery at our disposal yet. So just
+
+59:01.440 --> 59:07.120
+stay calm. Don't panic. I apologize again for the alignment of the video, but don't worry. I'm
+
+59:07.120 --> 59:13.120
+always recording here at home base. And so I can rerun it and either put it back on Twitch
+
+59:13.120 --> 59:18.640
+or at least have a good video up on rumble and a good video up on my website. So thanks very much
+
+59:18.640 --> 59:25.200
+for coming. Looks like the Nobel Prize is based on a little bit of Hoopie Hoopie. A little bit of
+
+59:25.200 --> 59:33.200
+hocus pocus. And it's not like we didn't know that, of course. Make sure that you realize that these
+
+59:33.200 --> 59:40.960
+people are interested in eliminating the control group by any means necessary. So stop
+
+59:40.960 --> 59:49.840
+transfections in humans. Please stop transfections in humans. Say hi to the Broken Science Initiative
+
+59:49.840 --> 59:55.760
+for me by going there and making a comment about how badass you go and biological is.
+
+59:56.400 --> 01:00:02.160
+And that Greg Glassman should be on this show. Go over there and make a comment. Thanks very much
+
+01:00:02.160 --> 01:00:08.240
+for joining me. See you guys again soon. Probably tomorrow because you know we do it every day.
+
+01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:57.280
+I'm just really excited. I just want you everybody to know if you're still listening that
+
+01:00:59.040 --> 01:01:03.120
+that Halloween is the night. Halloween is the night. You've got to be around
+
+01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:09.760
+Halloween like Halloween is going to be big on YouTube for JC on a bike. Just don't forget,
+
+01:01:09.760 --> 01:01:15.600
+okay? I told you. I told you.
+
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+I fixed the stream with Dennis, and I should have it up on Rumble and Vimeo overnight.
+
+01:51.000 --> 01:56.000
+I'll put a link up in a few places so people can share that.
+
+01:56.000 --> 02:02.000
+It was a really good recording. It actually jumped a couple times, so it might happen again tonight.
+
+02:02.000 --> 02:07.000
+We'll see. I didn't really ever figure out what caused it, so we'll see.
+
+02:57.000 --> 03:10.000
+He's scheduled for 16 minutes next. He's going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television.
+
+03:10.000 --> 03:16.000
+People everywhere are starting to listen to him. It's embarrassing.
+
+03:19.000 --> 03:25.000
+But there's still one thing on top. What happened to the real mummy?
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+It's my own test, Dusty.
+
+03:36.000 --> 03:38.000
+I found the mummy.
+
+03:38.000 --> 03:43.000
+Well, gang, I guess that wraps up the mystery, and the mummy, too.
+
+03:56.000 --> 04:17.000
+We're going to understand that you're in the city of the A's.
+
+04:17.000 --> 04:21.000
+Yes, yes, two days ago. One side stood your seat.
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+04:26.000 --> 04:40.000
+I didn't have to remind me again about what that inside I had on the stream a couple of days ago.
+
+04:40.000 --> 04:46.000
+There's been a lot of stuff happening. It's been hard to keep track of all of it.
+
+04:46.000 --> 04:53.000
+Give me another hand to maybe it'll spark something, and I'll start with that.
+
+04:53.000 --> 04:56.000
+By myself, you're having a piece.
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+Oh, yeah, now I remember a good, good hand. Excellent, good hand.
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+That's about antibodies and neutralization in Vivo and Vitro.
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+Good one, that's right. I remember.
+
+05:21.000 --> 05:23.000
+We've been misleading the young about a lot of things.
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+That's one of the things we've been misleading the young about my goodness.
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+All these in Vitro assays and what they really mean or don't mean.
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+We've got to learn our history before it's race forever because that's where these assays all came from, is this history.
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+If we figure that out, we can take it back from these challenges of convinced.
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+I'm convinced we're making progress even though it doesn't sound like it in my voice.
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+I really think we're making progress.
+
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+I see bricks for sure.
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+I see bricks because there wasn't any evidence of spreading New York City.
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+I see it, but I see bricks because infectious clones are the only real way that they can make something like this.
+
+06:19.000 --> 06:23.000
+I see bricks because placebo batches were likely distributed.
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+06:23.000 --> 06:29.000
+And I see bricks because I knew transfection was a bad idea before they ever rolled it out.
+
+06:29.000 --> 06:35.000
+Shoot, I see bricks because protocols were murder, gain of function as a mythology.
+
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+They tried to fool us into solving this mystery and all of these people are still committed to lying.
+
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+That's why I see bricks.
+
+06:44.000 --> 06:46.000
+That's why you see bricks.
+
+06:47.000 --> 06:49.000
+The bricks at the back of the theater.
+
+07:02.000 --> 07:05.000
+It's really hard to tell with people who have taken the shot,
+
+07:05.000 --> 07:13.000
+because they're probably really taking in social media and trying to digest it, and that can hurt you.
+
+07:13.000 --> 07:18.000
+This is Kego on Biological High Resistance Low Noise Information Brief brought to you by Biologist.
+
+07:18.000 --> 07:21.000
+It's the 11th of October, 2023.
+
+07:29.000 --> 07:31.000
+Good evening ladies and gentlemen.
+
+07:31.000 --> 07:34.000
+Welcome to the back of my garage in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
+
+07:34.000 --> 07:37.000
+It is the 11th of October of 2023.
+
+07:37.000 --> 07:39.000
+My name is Jonathan Cooey.
+
+07:39.000 --> 07:42.000
+And this is Kego on Biological.
+
+07:42.000 --> 07:46.000
+Thanks to the people scrolling at the top of the screen we exist.
+
+07:47.000 --> 07:57.000
+And although I've been an independent biologist for about three years now, I'm also a staff scientist at Children's Health Defense.
+
+07:57.000 --> 08:03.000
+Although here at Kego on Biological I speak for myself and for Kego on Biological and the views expressed
+
+08:03.000 --> 08:09.000
+on this show have nothing to do with that aforementioned non-profit organization.
+
+08:10.000 --> 08:16.000
+I'm simply here to share my opinions from a starship.
+
+08:17.000 --> 08:22.000
+You wouldn't want to take any medical advice from a biologist of a starship.
+
+08:24.000 --> 08:26.000
+Don't take the bait on TV and social media.
+
+08:26.000 --> 08:31.000
+I'm not saying that there's fake stuff on TV and that you shouldn't watch it
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+08:31.000 --> 08:34.000
+or try to figure out what's going on in the world.
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+08:35.000 --> 08:41.000
+I'm saying that no matter what's going on in the world they're going to try and use it, twist it, contort it, invert it
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+08:42.000 --> 08:47.000
+in order to make us fight and in order to make us ask the wrong question.
+
+08:47.000 --> 08:55.000
+One of my good friends expressed it this way and I do think it's a very, very good way of saying that they have tricked us
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+into asking the wrong questions for a real long time.
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+And asking the wrong questions does not get you the answers you need.
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+09:05.000 --> 09:11.000
+And that's what social media and that's what TV and that's what the bait on TV and social media does.
+
+09:11.000 --> 09:13.000
+It gets you to ask the wrong question.
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+09:13.000 --> 09:20.000
+It gets you to attribute, cause and effect relationships incorrectly.
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+09:20.000 --> 09:25.000
+And that's extremely dangerous to our democracy.
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+09:26.000 --> 09:33.000
+We are, yeah, we're trying to solve this mystery of who set us up for this Scooby-Doo, how long they've been setting us up
+
+09:33.000 --> 09:36.000
+and how much of it's a set up, but it's a lot.
+
+09:36.000 --> 09:37.000
+It's a lot.
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+And that's because for a very long time people under the tutelage of Henry Kissinger have been thinking
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+09:46.000 --> 09:51.000
+that it's not a matter of what is true that counts, but a matter of what is perceived to be true.
+
+09:52.000 --> 10:03.000
+And it is this collection of players that we've been trying to dissect over the last three years to try and figure out what's going on.
+
+10:03.000 --> 10:16.000
+And it's the illusion of consensus that they have created both on TV and in the mainstream as well as behind the scenes in the dissident groups.
+
+10:17.000 --> 10:20.000
+There has been also an illusion of consensus created.
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+10:22.000 --> 10:39.000
+And this illusion of consensus has brought the dissident movement and the mainstream movement trying to solve this mystery to the same conclusion as if they went to the same address from two different starting points.
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+10:40.000 --> 10:42.000
+And that was, I believe, by design.
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+10:43.000 --> 10:53.000
+And you can see it because the people who are elevated by pseudo censorship, people, I'm sorry, I'm going to really stop doing this.
+
+10:53.000 --> 10:58.000
+The last time I watched myself and saw myself do this, I got very angry.
+
+10:58.000 --> 11:07.000
+So we should make a button or something that you can push the X key when I do that and it will cause my chair to buzz me or something, but I'm not going to do it anymore.
+
+11:08.000 --> 11:31.000
+But this illusion of consensus that has been created by this perceived dissident debate about where did the virus come from and did they really cover it up and which of these parties is lying has all been an elaborate theater designed to get all of us to fall for the same
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+trick to ask the wrong question and accept the same wrong answer.
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+And once we accept the same wrong answer on the left and on the right, the entire system is usurped.
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+We are trapped and worse.
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+11:48.000 --> 11:54.000
+Our children are trapped because they will grow up with adults that don't understand the cage.
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+And they don't understand why the cheese is free.
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+And that's why we need to work so hard right now to get people to understand the transfection is not immunization.
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+And we need to get people to really understand that immunization is something that we understand a lot less about than we then they have claimed.
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+Because there has been no legal or or economic reason for them to investigate the technology further.
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+Because once something is classified as a vaccine and you show that it that it works almost did it that you actually have quite an easy time after that there will be no evaluation.
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+There's no way that anything that happens in the VICP is going to push through to disqualify your product.
+
+12:56.000 --> 13:01.000
+And this is where we are. And so we need to start understanding the immunology.
+
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+We need to start understanding our immunology well enough.
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+So that saying the words intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
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+13:15.000 --> 13:18.000
+When you say those words it should make so much sense.
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+Because you get this little cartoon in your head of how the immune system is organized around barriers.
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+It's organized around sites of infection.
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+It's organized around lymph nodes.
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+13:32.000 --> 13:43.000
+It's organized around the lymph the lymphatic system and it's organized around the continuous defense of this barrier from the inside out.
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+13:44.000 --> 13:53.000
+And therefore augmenting that system by putting something on the very inside of that which it is supposed to defend.
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+13:54.000 --> 13:56.000
+It's not the best idea.
+
+13:56.000 --> 14:07.000
+And so yesterday there were the audio was completely destroyed.
+
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+I haven't looked over here but I guess nobody's complaining.
+
+14:11.000 --> 14:14.000
+The audio was completely destroyed yesterday but I was able to line it back up.
+
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+I'm not really sure what happened.
+
+14:17.000 --> 14:22.000
+It could have just been that my computer was on for a long time and I was doing a lot of things all day.
+
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+It doesn't really matter.
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+If it's not working or not happening now then we somehow figured it out.
+
+14:27.000 --> 14:29.000
+We talked about this Lancet paper.
+
+14:29.000 --> 14:43.000
+How this Lancet paper had said that the COVID-19 vaccinations could be calculated using a mathematical model to have saved between 14 and 19 million lives around the world.
+
+14:44.000 --> 15:06.000
+And now that the RNA has been awarded the Nobel Prize, of course this claim has also been used in New York Times and other articles to further cast wonderful trumpets and sunshine on the mRNA technology.
+
+15:07.000 --> 15:13.000
+And as reported in the Lancet this technology has saved almost 20 million people.
+
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+And so with careful inspection using a lot of the work that he's already done with all cause mortality around the world.
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+I guess I should stay there.
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+Denny was able to put together a little paper using the data that he had already compiled from all cause mortality numbers around the world.
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+And using the data that he had already compiled about all of the shots rolled out.
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+Because of course the vaccines can't save anybody before they were rolled out.
+
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+And Denny and his colleagues had previously done work where they had taken the number of vaccines administered over time and graphed them in a cumulative line so that you can see zero vaccination up to some fully vaccinated state or, you know, wherever the highest number is.
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+And so you would expect that as that line went up you'd expect the all cause mortality to go down right because it's saving lives.
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+And of course there's no such signal.
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+And in fact when the countermeasures the the transfections are rolled out in time with a huge media campaign there's more likely to be a pretty strong signal in the all cause mortality that correlates with them.
+
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+And so he was able to do that. I think it's a really nice paper. We had a really nice discussion about it. As I mentioned earlier, I reset the time and and I'll put that up later on the website and on rumble and et cetera.
+
+16:51.000 --> 16:53.000
+And I hope you'll share it with people.
+
+16:54.000 --> 16:58.000
+Tonight we're going to look at Campbell and Doug leash.
+
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+I don't know how to say his name. He's a real nice guy. They're both really nice guys.
+
+17:02.000 --> 17:16.000
+And a lot of people on my last video came to defend both Campbell and Professor DeGlish and and the Glish. I don't know how to say it. I apologize. I'm sure it's going to get corrected right now.
+
+17:16.000 --> 17:29.000
+Because they've come so far, especially John Campbell has come so far and he's been on YouTube for a long time.
+
+17:29.000 --> 17:38.000
+And he and he didn't want to jeopardize his channel. And so he's had to be very careful.
+
+17:38.000 --> 17:49.000
+And he's had some videos taken down. And so he's got to be very careful and I understand all of that to a certain extent.
+
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+But at some moment, we're going to they're going to have to come to realize that they're in action or their inability to actually say it out loud their inability to find a better way.
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+To awaken is just delaying and inevitable and causing more harm.
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+More people to get farther down the road where it's harder to turn around and see what happened.
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+And that's part of what the extremely long time it took for John Campbell to wake up. I want to I want to give him credit.
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+But it's like at some moment, you know, when the when people are all dead and buried for a year or two.
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+And people have been hurt for like a year or two and you didn't do anything. You didn't say anything. You ignored people.
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+I don't know. If John Campbell didn't do that, then he's definitely a good guy and we need to support him. But we need to also bring him to understand that he's still under this enchantment that is the Scooby-Doo mystery.
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+And he's still patting himself on the back for having finally figured it out, albeit a year or two to late.
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+And in this video, I'm going to try and be very sweet because again, everybody seems to like these guys and want to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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+But we are in 2023. We are in October of 2023. Do not forget that in 2020 and in 2021, neither of these guys was doing anything to get anybody to stop transfecting themselves.
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+And they still aren't really questioning the existence of a virus relative to the existence of some really nasty protocols, some really nasty choices, and some really nasty lies that had some really nasty consequences.
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+And they are confused. And so we need to really see it for what it is because this is the Scooby-Doo resolution on the TV narrative side.
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+This is the Scooby-Doo resolution on the YouTube narrative side because this is not crushed from YouTube.
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+This video has not been taken down. John Campbell still has his channel.
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+And so this is not, and let me say it again, this is not the dissident narrative.
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+This is the resolution of the Scooby-Doo as the two stories come together.
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+As we are made to feel like, see, we were right.
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+And these people are made to feel like, Oh, wow, I guess we were a little bit wrong about that, but we weren't wrong about everything else.
+
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+And so then it's kind of like a rub, right? Because we're going to end up being wrong because 19 million people were saved by the mRNA and the mRNA was contaminated.
+
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+So once we fix it, it'll be fine. And they were wrong about the lab leak.
+
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+But, you know, that's okay. You guys were wrong about the shot.
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+You see?
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+It's very, very scary where we are and we cannot be too excited about it, I don't think, but I'm going to watch this video because
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+a lot of people seem to think that John Campbell is on the right way.
+
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+And I don't, I don't want to break anybody's body burst anybody's bubble, but John Campbell has always been a hundred percent on book.
+
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+And recall, please, that the Scooby-Doo mystery needs to resolve.
+
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+And that's what makes the, the, the whole enchantment so wonderful.
+
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+Is that it will resolve to where the vast majority of people that disagree about gay marriage and disagree about, about transsexuality and disagree about abortion will agree that this was obviously a lab leak.
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+Which means that they all just agree, even though they don't agree on abortion or gay rights or transsexuality, they all agree that gain a function.
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+Viruses are real.
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+And these people who can't agree about Donald Trump or endangered species or climate change will agree that gain a function viruses are the most likely cause of the pandemic and therefore they could come again.
+
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+Please, please start to really understand what I'm trying to propose.
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+So that if it's right and it feels right to you, you can also share it with other people.
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+Because it's possible that a bunch of dudes in a room came up with this idea a long time ago.
+
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+It's possible that a bunch of dudes said, how can we use a harmless, ubiquitous RNA signal to our advantage?
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+Well, we could call it a virus. Yeah. Well, what is what good does that do?
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+Well, we could say it causes the common cold, it causes respiratory.
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+Okay. Well, what good does that do?
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+Maybe we can use it for vaccines or something. What is good does that do?
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+Well, maybe we can blame it for a really bad virus.
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+You see where we're going here? It's a background signal.
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+They've known it's a background signal for decades.
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+And they have used that background signal and called it novel based on a preponderance of evidence of detection.
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+And that detection is based on nothing.
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+Nothing that they've proven or shown previously that can detect how they're detecting.
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+They say they're detecting it.
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+Previously, PCR would have been used as a pan coronavirus test, not a specific one, a pan coronavirus test.
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+Once you identify the presence of a coronavirus, you need to carefully and painstakingly attempt to sequence it.
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+There's never been a specific coronavirus PCR test for a specific coronavirus.
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+And it's really annoying how many of these poser molecular biologists and poser armchair biologists won't just say that.
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+You can go back in the literature and find absolutely zero examples of PCR being used to differentiate between different coronaviruses in the same sample.
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+It's not done.
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+It's not done because PCR doesn't work that way and because coronavirus sequences don't work that way.
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+And that's part of this illusion, this part of this fidelity illusion.
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+And now one thing I want you to see in this video, I'm just going to preface it.
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+You're going to see it is it's finally dawned on me where this name came from.
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+But DeGliche has published with Dr. Quay from Australia.
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+And he was on one of Dr. Quay's original publications.
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+And so from my perspective, we're in really drastic territory.
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+We are in worst case scenario, team territory.
+
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+We are in red team, blue team in the beginning of 2020 territory.
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+And Dr. Quay is definitely one of these people who has a really weird CV to be so out in front of a fear and cleavage site and so insistent that changing for or even two amino acids or with funny codons for arginine somehow makes the RNA able to circle the globe.
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+We're going to interrupt and talk about it.
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+It's a crazy time right now, ladies and gentlemen, it's a real crazy time.
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+Oh, I thought I had it up there.
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+Shoot.
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+Sorry about that.
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+Me thought I had it up here.
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+Where did I have it?
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+History, I should be history, right?
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+That worked.
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+No.
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+Back.
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+Sorry, this is out of different screens, so it's just a little funny.
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+Yes, here we go, ladies and gentlemen.
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+Now, today we wanted to talk about viral origins, talking about the SARS coronavirus to virus.
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+Where the heck did it come from?
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+And you rumbled this.
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+You were on the ball on this earlier than anyone else as far as I'm aware.
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+Just tell us what your background is in that field of study and why you were able to get to the right conclusion or what I perceive now as the right conclusion so much quicker than as far as I know the rest of the academic medical world.
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+Well, this goes back to the fact that there's a lot of research in HIV and I've been working in HIV for a long time.
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+And I picked up at this obsession with using HIV envelope as the vaccine was completely.
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+This is the vaccine for eggs.
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+HIV was completely flawed because it had 3000 antigens in it, which present this to immune system as an antigen.
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+It's basically just going to get confused.
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+It's a decoy, a decoy.
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+And the more that we looked at malarized the virus, which I got into doing because I found the CD4 as the receptor, which has hailed as a great discovery.
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+I don't think it's anything on power of things I've done since.
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+It's still pretty good.
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+The CD4 is the receptor on the white cell that the AIDS virus binds into.
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+Absolutely.
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+And just next to it is a region called C5.
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+And we realized that this was probably the Achilles heel of the virus.
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+This was over the months and years and years.
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+This was no overnight.
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+And it was by pursuing a lot of avenues and finding.
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+It was a bit like Occam's razor that eliminated absolutely everything up.
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+This was the only thing that stood the test of time.
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+And it was the only thing that you didn't make responses to if you did the vaccine because the other things drowned it all out.
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+So I realized this was the Achilles heel.
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+And I predicted all the failures of the virus.
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+I was furious because we had all our applications turned down by the NIH, which I now realized as Fauci.
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+Fauci didn't understand it.
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+The Gates Foundation, we now know the two of them work very closely about how things should be funded.
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+I don't believe that if these things were properly peer reviewed, as we've told them, they would have been rejected given how logically we laid it up.
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+And because of this and all the work I've done on this, I was contacted through an old PhD student who was working for a company in Norway, which was working on an HIV vaccine.
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+With the same philosophy, get rid of as much as you can.
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+Go for those concerned elements that if they no longer exist, the virus no longer exists.
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+Get rid of anything that might be a decoy.
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+So that's an interesting statement that to get rid of all the things that if you get rid of them, the virus no longer exists.
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+So that's, that's more or less what I'm talking about.
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+If you focus on the things that are necessary for the virus to exist that are functionally constrained, you're going to be fine.
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+And unfortunately for virology and for public health, your body's already cracked that code.
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+Your immune system already knows how to deal with with self replicating RNA, like a coronavirus, and it knows to focus on conserved epitopes and conserved antigenic domains, like those found on the receptor binding or sorry.
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+Those found on the RNA dependent RNA polymerase, those found on the end protein, the nucleocapsid protein around which the mRNA or the RNA genome is supposed to be wrapped.
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+And other proteins, especially, I think the envelope protein because it's kind of vital for the formation of the coronavirus particles.
+
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+Now, it's important because he starts out here again, just as he did on the previous episode from a week or so ago, plugging the discoveries that he made about HIV beyond the CD4 receptor.
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+CD4 receptor being the helper T cell receptor that the AIDS virus supposedly uses to infect T cells.
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+And he claims to have discovered another receptor, a co-receptor, or something else that works alongside of it, that's more important than CD4.
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+He also claims to have made viral vaccine candidates and proposals which were rejected by the NIH, which he seems to oddly say he's only recently figured out is Fauci, which I've watched this video a couple times and it strikes me the same way every time.
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+It feels weird. Anybody that was in the HIV field and making discoveries in the HIV field and publishing in HIV would have known that Tony Fauci was one of the grandfathers of the HIV field.
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+And certainly anybody that's passed through America would have eventually had to pay fealty to Tony Fauci. And in fact, we know that the vast majority of the players who orchestrated the theater from 2020 and 2021 were people that cut their teeth in AIDS,
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+redfield, Berks, Walensky, the Surgeon General Dude, they're all from HIV. They're all went through Brigham Young. They all went through some serious HIV clinical rotation of some kind or did their bench research in HIV.
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+And this is not a coincidence. And it's not because everybody in viruses is doing HIV. It's something more complicated than that.
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+So we started collaborating. We got very good grants from the Norwegian Research Council together for doing this. The vaccine is very good. It worked very well, but it wasn't as good as we'd like, but nothing is first time round.
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+And I got involved in adapting it to make it even better. And one of the things was to add my Achilles heel to it.
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+Their HIV vaccine was just based on the core and the nucleus was very conservative. So I've added my bit in and it works really beautifully. We've given it a booster with the IMM 101. So it's really perfect now.
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+And it was going to go and be taken all the way up for registration.
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+Now, this is frustrating because he said it again, just like he said it on the last stream. And just like John Campbell repeated it, he said he added his own little thing, which he's keeping secret.
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+Apparently he has Achilles heel that he found. And their virus was focused on the nucleus on the core.
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+And I don't like that language because I think it's technically almost certainly incorrect.
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+And so what he's doing here and see this as I see it.
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+He's setting John Campbell up to be discredited, right? Because if John Campbell ever talks about the core of a virus or the nucleus of a virus.
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+If anybody ever wants to make John Campbell look like a fool, like let's say debunk the funk, for example, he plays this clip.
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+And he says that this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. He's talking about the core of a virus or the nucleus of a virus. They don't have those.
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+So, you know, John Campbell doesn't know what he's talking about either because he listens to this guy and doesn't ask a question.
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+This is going to happen more and more. You're going to see people like Brett Weinstein debunked in the exact same way where they will make almost obvious imprecise statements, almost obvious inversions.
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+And now he's done it twice. This is the second time he did it on the stream. He didn't correct himself. He hasn't been become more precise. It's almost exactly the same wording, which concerns me a lot.
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+Now I know that you guys like him and I know you like John Campbell. So don't take this to heart. Don't get all worked up.
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+I understand what it's like to be trapped inside the psychotic mind of a, of a, of a biologist in his back in the back of his garage.
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+Because that's what I see here. I see people who aren't telling us a straight story, especially this fellow here.
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+I don't know if John Campbell can tell the difference between a straight story and a real one. And if he can't, that would be a bit more in line with him just trusting the TV in 2020 and 2021.
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+If he can actually smell BS, then it concerns me a little more that he was on narrative for so long. But if you really can't see through this guy makes kind of sense.
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+But I know this guy knows more than what he's saying and I do not.
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+I don't know. I don't. And you'll see.
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+And one of the things was to add my, the Achilles heel to it.
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+Their HIV vaccine was just based on the core and the nucleus was that's very concerned. So I've added my bit in and it works really beautifully.
+
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+We've given it a booster with the IMM 101. So it's really perfect now. And it was going to go and be taken all the way up for registration by a company called Seljine with whom I've worked with for that work with them for over 20 years.
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+When I said, you know, thalidomide is a drug which is magical, which is being tarred by the birth defects and, you know, going through that, they were going to pay for the whole thing to go through.
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+So we've had an HIV vaccine, but unfortunately, Seljine was taken over by Bristol Myers Squibb, which is an enormous pharmaceutical company who just wanted their cancer agents.
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+They took them over and threw every other project out, which was a tragedy. However, the bottom line of that was that we were working hard together, collaborating, making this vaccine, he already put into the clinic before I met him.
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+And I realized the right way to go. I was suspicious of the technology at first, always own. And you always should be. Otherwise, you take everything for granted. You end up in the mess. We are now.
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+So we worked really hard on this. I mean, you're exactly how to do it. And he'd worked with people who had tremendous algorithms mathematical for picking out sequences that are really important.
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+And he was far, far above a spot above all the so-called molecular biologists who just look at sequences. Because he was a biophysicist, he realized that sequences mean nothing until you translate them into amino acids.
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+And the amino acids mean nothing until you've built them like a Lego block into a 3D protein. And here they have their own laws. And that was the secret. That's where he was great at.
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+So you could take the sequences and make it even stronger by making sure they're charged with all these things, which when I talk about the people, they might as well talk over their heads.
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+And so when the COVID sequence came along, the burgers are in some of you as my big friend and colleague over there, he called me up and he said, Gus, there's going to be a real need for a vaccine.
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+Shall we collaborate and go for one along the same lines? And I said, yeah, absolutely. Because I said, before we go any further, this virus has a big spike protein, rather like the HIV has a envelope.
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+And we know the HIV envelope using it was a disaster. I would predict using the whole spike will be a disaster. So we need the pickler bits that are really important.
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+So he said, great, I'll get working on those now with the algorithms.
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+So one of the first things he did in his team was they did blast analysis, which means you take the sequence of all the proteins it could possibly make, and you look at the sequences.
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+And the blast analysis showed that 79% of the spike protein had human homology.
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+That meant if you use that 79% of the spike protein, there was going to be a very high chance you were going to induce autumn.
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+Now this might be the Norwegian guy who wrote the article about warning that AstraZeneca might be a bad idea. I don't know.
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+This would be curious.
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+I didn't like his equivalents there, although I kind of liked his equivalents there in the sense of, you know, the spike protein and the envelope protein that I knew the envelope protein would work. So I knew the spike protein wouldn't work.
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+So let's pick out the bits that are important. And 79% of this is overlapping. It shouldn't be very surprising.
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+We have a lot of viral homology in our genome because viruses are derived from us.
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+And we have this innate communication system using small vesicles and viruses if they exist as separate entities would use that existing communication system to their advantage.
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+And if they are noise within that communication system, then obviously they are derived from it.
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+And so there's still some sort of disconnect between the almost obvious biology at this stage and this illusion of pathogenic viruses that exist separately from us and waiting to pray upon us in nature.
+
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+So here we are talking about vaccination again and we're not talking about whether a vaccine is necessary. We're not talking about the strength of natural immunity. We're not talking about previous immunity to previous RNA viruses.
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+They use homologous proteins to do the same things.
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+But instead, we're just talking about which vaccine was good and which mistakes did they make and I would have done it better.
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+I had a better plan with my Norwegian friend.
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+And so you can see coming from the TV, social media side of the Scooby-Doo, it's a very different elephant.
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+New reactions against human epitopes. Can you just unpick them in what you mean by human homology?
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+Well, it means that the bits of the virus, which have a very similar sequence as a very important protein in the human.
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+And we picked out the two had the strongest homology. One was played the factor four, which means the sequence is near identified.
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+So by inducing antibodies against this, you would develop a clotting pathway and seriously, it would explain the VIIT, the thrombocytopenic condition.
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+It would be absolutely exfoliant.
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+This has now been accepted by the authorities as a side effect on the vaccine, albeit very rare and worth it in the long run type of approach.
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+The other was myelin. Now, myelin is you get that attacked, you get transverse myelitis, givian virus and etc.
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+So myelin is this insulating material around?
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+Actually, you could also get, right? You could also get MS.
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+I'm pretty sure that's what MS is.
+
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+In fact, didn't I read in guns, germs and steel that the Russians once made a salmonella bacteria that express myelin protein on the outside?
+
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+And if they put that salmonella bacteria in animals, they would develop a real acute MS.
+
+42:00.000 --> 42:08.000
+I'm pretty sure I read that in some book. Guns, germs and steel, something like that. I don't know. Anyway.
+
+42:08.000 --> 42:29.000
+So protein homology in the spike protein with myelin could cause a number of autoimmune consequences and any autoimmune consequences aimed at myelin would be a bad thing.
+
+42:29.000 --> 42:34.000
+And then platelet factor four.
+
+42:34.000 --> 42:44.000
+And so this is quite a bit different than, well, let's first say a couple things and then we'll let it go.
+
+42:44.000 --> 42:48.000
+What controls do we have here? None.
+
+42:48.000 --> 43:01.000
+So we haven't looked at the fusion proteins of other endemic human coronaviruses to see if they have homology on a similar scale.
+
+43:01.000 --> 43:14.000
+Maybe this is just a typical level of homology between a fusion protein of a human coronavirus and our own genome in this in this fragment size.
+
+43:14.000 --> 43:27.000
+We don't know because no one told us. If we were told that other coronaviruses have a spike protein that has almost no homology with our own, but this coronavirus has homology of like 70%.
+
+43:27.000 --> 43:35.000
+So it's super dangerous to use this spike protein. Hey, now you're telling me something.
+
+43:35.000 --> 43:47.000
+If you tell me 5,000 people died of COVID this week in America, but you don't tell me that we expected between 55 and 65,000 people to die this week.
+
+43:47.000 --> 43:51.000
+The numbers don't mean the same things.
+
+43:51.000 --> 43:59.000
+And so again, just keep putting salt in your mouth. Lots of grains of salt here because I'm not smelling fish.
+
+44:00.000 --> 44:11.000
+The virtually all nerve fibers. Yeah. And that again is exactly what we see. And it's not a brand new thing because the 1976 flu epidemic in America for Dietrich one that was killing young people, they rushed out a vaccine for it.
+
+44:11.000 --> 44:16.000
+And they were bright doctors and they weren't bullied and they reported back.
+
+44:16.000 --> 44:20.000
+Gillian Barry syndrome seems to be much more common since we rolled out these 42 million vaccines.
+
+44:20.000 --> 44:27.000
+And they looked at this. They sent people out to check it and they found that it was much more common and they looked around and they said that no one's dying of the flu anymore.
+
+44:28.000 --> 44:37.000
+So they killed the vaccine program. That was Gillian Barry. It was because it wasn't a vaccine. It was a flu vaccine. So there's, there's a generic thing between the viruses and cross reactivity.
+
+44:37.000 --> 44:46.000
+Now we spotted that. So one of the questions I'd like to ask is why did the 150 other people designing vaccines all go with the whole spike protein and we shouted and we said, don't do it, don't do it.
+
+44:46.000 --> 44:56.000
+And because all the lemmings had all decided it was a good idea to jump with this type of protein. We were just ignored and off they go and every, every vaccine can take use of the whole spike protein one way or the other.
+
+44:56.000 --> 45:00.000
+And we had the experience and everything to do that. But we never had the funding properly because.
+
+45:00.000 --> 45:06.000
+I mean, think about what's happening here and I hope it's obvious to you what's happening here because it's certainly obvious to me.
+
+45:06.000 --> 45:13.000
+My parents, for example, I can just put myself in their shoes. They're not listening to their son.
+
+45:13.000 --> 45:22.000
+They think their son is an idiot. And maybe they finally found John Campbell and they're watching this and they're for the first time.
+
+45:22.000 --> 45:31.000
+Hearing someone describe the possibility that something like a spike protein in its relative size could have hundreds of epitopes.
+
+45:31.000 --> 45:39.000
+And many of those epitopes, if not almost all of them, will not neutralize the virus in like in the cartoons.
+
+45:39.000 --> 45:50.000
+And not all of those epitopes will necessarily help us to bring in the complement system or bring in macrophages or bring in antigen presenting cells to get rid of the viruses.
+
+45:50.000 --> 45:59.000
+It might not, it might not aggregate them because of the nature of off target antibodies.
+
+46:00.000 --> 46:10.000
+And the fact that we don't really use antibodies to fight off a respiratory disease in general, not seroprevalent IgG in the blood antibodies.
+
+46:10.000 --> 46:13.000
+None of that's being discussed right now.
+
+46:13.000 --> 46:26.000
+And so it's a very piecemeal display of skepticism. It's a piecemeal display of skepticism around the origins of the virus.
+
+46:26.000 --> 46:37.000
+And the target of the vaccine and the obviously dumb choice of using the whole spike protein as an antigen.
+
+46:37.000 --> 46:48.000
+And this is exactly what we said they were going to do actually almost three years ago now.
+
+46:49.000 --> 46:52.000
+Almost three years ago.
+
+46:52.000 --> 47:02.000
+It's really October. It will be it is three years ago that we first stated they are going to blame.
+
+47:02.000 --> 47:09.000
+The injuries and deaths of the vaccine on the poor choice of antigen.
+
+47:09.000 --> 47:14.000
+And here we are in October of 2023.
+
+47:14.000 --> 47:20.000
+I guess that's two years later because it's 21 October of 2020.
+
+47:20.000 --> 47:24.000
+Yeah. Wow. Holy cow.
+
+47:26.000 --> 47:32.000
+It is three years since I first got the idea that they were going to do that.
+
+47:33.000 --> 47:39.000
+And it's not like it was my idea, but it just became obvious to me once I understood.
+
+47:39.000 --> 47:43.000
+Once I understood what Mike Eden was saying.
+
+47:43.000 --> 47:48.000
+And that expression of a foreign protein was going to lead to an autoimmune response.
+
+47:48.000 --> 47:50.000
+Once I had heard.
+
+47:50.000 --> 47:53.000
+A secret Bakti say it.
+
+47:53.000 --> 47:59.000
+It became very obvious, right? It became very obvious that something was going to go wrong.
+
+47:59.000 --> 48:04.000
+But more importantly, it became obvious that they had to already know.
+
+48:04.000 --> 48:09.000
+And so they had to already have a plan of what they were going to do.
+
+48:09.000 --> 48:19.000
+And at that time, guess what the biggest, craziest, nuttiest uproar of was about.
+
+48:19.000 --> 48:27.000
+It was about the spike protein of the virus and about how the spike protein of the virus was revealing that it was actually a lab leak
+
+48:27.000 --> 48:32.000
+and potentially much more dangerous to get infected with than we thought.
+
+48:32.000 --> 48:35.000
+It's not your everyday virus.
+
+48:35.000 --> 48:38.000
+That's what people were whispering behind the scenes.
+
+48:38.000 --> 48:41.000
+That's what everybody was afraid of.
+
+48:41.000 --> 48:44.000
+You don't want to get this thing, man.
+
+48:44.000 --> 48:51.000
+Like this is not the way in natural immunity is not the way you don't want to get this at all.
+
+48:51.000 --> 48:55.000
+That's what Dan was saying. That's what Paul Cottrell was saying.
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+48:55.000 --> 48:58.000
+That's what a lot of people were saying.
+
+48:58.000 --> 49:01.000
+Because the spike protein could cause autoimmunity.
+
+49:01.000 --> 49:03.000
+The spike protein could cause amyloidosis.
+
+49:03.000 --> 49:07.000
+Spike protein could cause prion disease.
+
+49:07.000 --> 49:11.000
+Spike protein was neurotropic.
+
+49:11.000 --> 49:14.000
+Spike protein caused clotting.
+
+49:14.000 --> 49:19.000
+And so this is the TV side of the narrative.
+
+49:19.000 --> 49:27.000
+This is the TV side of the narrative coming to the first time to understand what it means that it's a lab leak.
+
+49:27.000 --> 49:35.000
+Because they just thought that the lab leak, natural virus, it's equivalent because the lab leak came from a bad cave.
+
+49:35.000 --> 49:39.000
+And the natural leak is from a bad cave. So they're the same. Who cares?
+
+49:39.000 --> 49:48.000
+Who cares if it was a lab leak from a virus or a lab or a virus from a lab leak or a virus from a bad cave if they're both from a bad cave?
+
+49:49.000 --> 49:58.000
+But now they're being introduced to the part of the narrative, the villain part of the narrative that we've been aware of the whole time.
+
+49:58.000 --> 50:10.000
+That if it's a lab leak and it's got a fear and cleavage site and a bunch of AIDS inserts, it could be much worse than anything Mother Nature could have ever made.
+
+50:10.000 --> 50:21.000
+Look, Montagnier referred to this as a watchmaker's creation meticulously assembled.
+
+50:21.000 --> 50:39.000
+And so all you normies out there who believe the TV have grossly underestimated the danger of this virus because lab leak and natural are not the same as like Tony Fauci would like you to believe they are.
+
+50:39.000 --> 50:44.000
+Why didn't that do? I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
+
+50:44.000 --> 50:48.000
+And that's really the trick here. That's what you see here.
+
+50:48.000 --> 50:56.000
+Remember, this is the TV and social media narrative side of the Scooby-Doo coming in for a landing.
+
+50:56.000 --> 51:03.000
+This is the first time they're getting this notion dropped into their lap.
+
+51:03.000 --> 51:07.000
+That lab leak or natural virus is not the same thing.
+
+51:07.000 --> 51:21.000
+They have been sitting on their couch with their feet up watching Netflix under the false assumption that lab leak or natural viruses the same because they both came from a bad cave.
+
+51:21.000 --> 51:37.000
+Who gives a dart? Whether it was somebody at a market or somebody who didn't shower after they got out of the PSL four lab or someone who was climbing around in a cave for fertilizer and brought it back on a train.
+
+51:37.000 --> 51:39.000
+It's all the same.
+
+51:39.000 --> 51:43.000
+Now they're being told the truth.
+
+51:43.000 --> 51:46.000
+No use silly billies.
+
+51:46.000 --> 51:57.000
+No use silly billies. It's much worse than that because this is a gain of function virus with lots of things added to it.
+
+51:57.000 --> 52:00.000
+People like without using gates are refused to fund us.
+
+52:00.000 --> 52:09.000
+So if 79% of the spike protein is the same as human proteins and you make antibodies to that spike protein, that means to me that 79% of those antibodies are going to cross react with human.
+
+52:10.000 --> 52:13.000
+But some of them will be weak and inconsequential.
+
+52:13.000 --> 52:19.000
+Some of them will be the medium and cause all sorts of funny things. You wonder what's going on like skin reactions and things.
+
+52:19.000 --> 52:22.000
+It's been very common. The whole range of weird wonderful reactions would be due to that.
+
+52:22.000 --> 52:26.000
+But the one where the homology is very strong, you're going to induce these conditions.
+
+52:26.000 --> 52:28.000
+And one of the things is they always trump.
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+52:28.000 --> 52:30.000
+Oh, but these side effects are very rare.
+
+52:30.000 --> 52:36.000
+See, but what's what's deceptive about this is that how do we tell you really.
+
+52:36.000 --> 52:42.000
+The prediction that he's making has a very finite.
+
+52:42.000 --> 52:50.000
+Range of possibilities because he has described the homology to human proteins.
+
+52:50.000 --> 52:55.000
+And he's suggesting that that homology is the source of the autoimmunity.
+
+52:56.000 --> 53:01.000
+That that homology is the source of the clotting.
+
+53:01.000 --> 53:07.000
+That that homology may be the source of some of the, the, the neurobiological effects.
+
+53:07.000 --> 53:09.000
+Maybe long COVID.
+
+53:10.000 --> 53:18.000
+Now, the one problem with this is that the spike protein is a limited set of epitopes. It's a limited antigen set.
+
+53:19.000 --> 53:33.000
+And so if there's nothing there to create autoimmunity to your ovaries or autoimmunity to your testes or autoimmunity to your liver, then it shouldn't show up.
+
+53:33.000 --> 53:39.000
+If there's nothing to explain autoimmunity in the skin, then it shouldn't show up.
+
+53:39.000 --> 53:52.000
+Unless you transfect cells with a foreign protein and the autoimmunity is generated by the general immune response to that self tissue that's expressing the non-self protein.
+
+53:53.000 --> 54:08.000
+And what I see here is a very convenient narrative about a spike protein with lots of mimicry and overlapping epitopes with our own epitopes that's leading to autoimmunity that is actually
+
+54:08.000 --> 54:19.000
+describing away the main mechanism of autoimmunity in transfection, which is transfection itself, which is exactly what I said they were going to do.
+
+54:20.000 --> 54:28.000
+I said this exact thing for the last three years, that people were going to keep coming on the scene and retelling us the tail.
+
+54:29.000 --> 54:37.000
+And every time they tell us the tail, there's going to be a new biological explanation for why the transfection caused all the things that it caused.
+
+54:37.000 --> 54:42.000
+But they're never just going to say that because transfection causes those things.
+
+54:43.000 --> 55:06.000
+They're going to try and blame it on the spike protein, on the LNP, on the DNA, on the purity of the DNA, the RNA, whatever, whatever, whatever, in the best case scenario with the purest RNA and the cleanest lipid nanoparticles, the best intramuscular injection, and the optimal health of your patient.
+
+55:07.000 --> 55:19.000
+Because transfection is still not a way of augmenting the immune system, we have no reason to believe it is, it's just a bunch of lipids and RNA.
+
+55:24.000 --> 55:32.000
+It's an intramuscular injection of a combination of substances intended to augment your immune system, and as we've said, that's dumb.
+
+55:33.000 --> 55:39.000
+We induce these conditions. And one of the things is they always trumpet, oh, but these side effects are very rare, and in the end they're worth it.
+
+55:40.000 --> 55:44.000
+Well, if you tell that somebody's paralyzed, that they didn't get COVID again, because it's worth it.
+
+55:45.000 --> 55:52.000
+To me, that was just ridiculously unacceptable when we were warned about it, and they haven't stopped the program knowing that the incidence is on the MHRA website about Gilean Bari.
+
+55:53.000 --> 56:01.000
+I mean, so that is not acceptable in young people who are, and they're often the ones that get it, they're the worst because they've got the strongest immune response to do something, who've got zero chance of dying of any of these variants.
+
+56:02.000 --> 56:12.000
+All these variants coming along. There's no evidence at all that they're ever going to be worse than the initial virus, which is why we're here to talk, because it was supremely adapted to infecting and destroying human cells.
+
+56:13.000 --> 56:22.000
+Supremely adaptive at infecting and destroying human cells. It was supremely adapted to infecting and destroying human cells.
+
+56:24.000 --> 56:27.000
+If we were in a church, you would repeat that after me.
+
+56:28.000 --> 56:32.000
+Right from the beginning, because it had spent years being manipulated in the laboratory in order to do so.
+
+56:33.000 --> 56:37.000
+It had been spent years in a laboratory being manipulated to do so.
+
+56:42.000 --> 56:50.000
+Listen to the faith, who are, and they're often the ones that get it, they're the worst because they've got the strongest immune response to do something, who've got zero chance of dying of any of these variants.
+
+56:51.000 --> 56:56.000
+All these variants coming along. There's no evidence at all that they're ever going to be worse than the initial virus, which is why, you know, we're here to talk.
+
+56:57.000 --> 57:02.000
+Because it was supremely adapted to infecting and destroying human cells. Right.
+
+57:03.000 --> 57:23.000
+The original virus was supremely adapted to infecting and destroying human cells. And then what's he saying right after that?
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+57:23.000 --> 57:30.000
+In the beginning, because it had spent years being manipulated in the laboratory in order to do so.
+
+57:35.000 --> 57:39.000
+Of course, I'm probably pronouncing it wrong. I've always said Guillaume-Barry.
+
+57:40.000 --> 57:41.000
+My French is always applauding.
+
+57:42.000 --> 57:45.000
+My French is nonexistent, so yours is clearly better than mine. But it can be a devastating disease.
+
+57:46.000 --> 57:49.000
+I've looked after patients for months on intensive care with hypoventilation, paralysis.
+
+57:49.000 --> 57:52.000
+And again, transverse myelitis. Transverse means it goes across the spinal cord.
+
+57:53.000 --> 57:57.000
+And again, I've seen people with total paralysis below that level of delusion, just like in a spinal cord injury.
+
+57:58.000 --> 57:59.000
+These can be quite devastating diseases.
+
+58:00.000 --> 58:04.000
+Now, one of the things I think that you noticed early on was what you call viral inserts.
+
+58:05.000 --> 58:06.000
+What did you mean by viral inserts?
+
+58:06.000 --> 58:09.000
+Right. Well, this goes back to my friend, Berber Sorensen, who we are selecting.
+
+58:10.000 --> 58:15.000
+Having decided that 80% of the spike protein should be avoided at all costs.
+
+58:16.000 --> 58:21.000
+Well, putting that into what amino acids are going to be programmed by these sequences.
+
+58:22.000 --> 58:24.000
+So these are the sequences in the letters of the RNA of the virus?
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+58:25.000 --> 58:33.000
+Yes. And we found that when you did that into the amino acids, there were regimens where you had amino acids which had a positive charge.
+
+58:34.000 --> 58:38.000
+Say four of them together. Now, this never happens normally because of the equilibrium cozine.
+
+58:39.000 --> 58:41.000
+There's a higher level of editing. So you have four amino acids positive.
+
+58:41.000 --> 58:44.000
+The other thing will show that you're going to have two positive, two negative.
+
+58:45.000 --> 58:47.000
+Right. Three to one is the most extreme, not four.
+
+58:47.000 --> 58:48.000
+Not four.
+
+58:48.000 --> 58:54.000
+And it was Berber, who's, I mean, I think he was a genius of being involved in vaccine design as a biophysicist.
+
+58:55.000 --> 58:58.000
+He said there are amino acid runs here, which shouldn't be here.
+
+58:59.000 --> 59:02.000
+And I discussed them with my colleagues and they said, oh, no, it's all random mutations.
+
+59:02.000 --> 59:03.000
+It doesn't mean anything.
+
+59:04.000 --> 59:07.000
+But then we looked that they were all around the receptor binding site.
+
+59:08.000 --> 59:10.000
+And they were all heavily positively charged.
+
+59:11.000 --> 59:15.000
+Now, I know great biophysicists, but I could see what this meant very quickly.
+
+59:15.000 --> 59:20.000
+And we looked at the positive charge of the membrane compared to any other coronavirus or similar virus.
+
+59:21.000 --> 59:22.000
+It's unbelievably high.
+
+59:22.000 --> 59:26.000
+So this receptor binding domain is the very bit of a spike protein that fits in soon.
+
+59:26.000 --> 59:31.000
+Yes. Now, if you accept us, my analogy, the way I saw it, and I think it's a good way to explain it,
+
+59:31.000 --> 59:34.000
+is the cell membrane for a virus is rather like the fridge door.
+
+59:34.000 --> 59:38.000
+So if you hypercharged it up, it's like a magnet. It goes bang and it locks in.
+
+59:38.000 --> 59:39.000
+And it locks in.
+
+59:39.000 --> 59:44.000
+That is why it's so supremely adapted to infecting human cells via the ACE receptor.
+
+59:44.000 --> 59:46.000
+In fact, it's so good. It's even learned to use other receptors.
+
+59:46.000 --> 59:48.000
+And that was the other thing that came through from that.
+
+59:48.000 --> 59:52.000
+So Virgo spotted it with his team who analyzed all the sequences.
+
+59:52.000 --> 59:54.000
+He spotted that these were positive charge.
+
+59:54.000 --> 59:58.000
+I went in having spent, you know, I discovered the receptor in 1984.
+
+59:58.000 --> 01:00:02.000
+So even though I was a clinical oncologist, I kept my interest in HIV all along.
+
+01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:07.000
+And couldn't understand why so many top class scientists went down so many rabbit holes for years on it.
+
+01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:11.000
+I found the most alarming insight that nobody was as clever as I thought we were.
+
+01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:18.000
+We know when I started this, but I knew the receptor that I was involved in discovering the CD4.
+
+01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:21.000
+One of the first things insights I had was, it's not enough.
+
+01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:23.000
+There's something else required, something else required.
+
+01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:28.000
+And we predicted very accurately that it was something else required, but it wasn't discovered for another 10 years.
+
+01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:30.000
+This is the HIV transition we're talking about.
+
+01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:33.000
+After I was wondering around the wards, being a cancer doctor.
+
+01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:41.000
+And so because of all that insight, I was very well primed to understand what he was doing and realized he was completely right.
+
+01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:44.000
+And all the people who shouted from the sidelines saying this is all nonsense erosion.
+
+01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:46.000
+In other words, I went and looked at papers and read papers.
+
+01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:49.000
+And there was a very important paper came out about this time.
+
+01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:51.000
+And it was called on the proximal evidence.
+
+01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:57.000
+It was by a fellow called Christian Anderson who wrote this paper with five or six other top virologists.
+
+01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:00.000
+And it said there's no chance it could have escaped from that.
+
+01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:01.000
+That was their constant thing.
+
+01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:03.000
+And I thought that was.
+
+01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:04.000
+But that's pretty funny, right?
+
+01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:09.000
+To bring up the proximal origins paper now that like we all aren't aware of that one.
+
+01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:12.000
+I wonder how long he's going to talk about that.
+
+01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:14.000
+Did I put this faster yet?
+
+01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:16.000
+It doesn't feel faster.
+
+01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:21.000
+Okay, it is.
+
+01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:24.000
+After what I've done with Burger, I thought it was absolutely rubbishly.
+
+01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:26.000
+And if you don't agree, you're a conspiracy theorist.
+
+01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:27.000
+You don't agree, you're a conspiracy theorist.
+
+01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:29.000
+So anyway, I read this paper.
+
+01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:33.000
+And unlike I would say the vast majority of people, I actually read their references.
+
+01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:39.000
+You always cloud a load of references on the paper superficially as a decoy to make other people think you know what you're talking about.
+
+01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:44.000
+You've read everything, but in actual practice, most of the people who put their names to these things have not read them.
+
+01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:46.000
+So I took it upon myself to read them.
+
+01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:51.000
+And it was beyond belief that they quoted these papers as references because two or three of them were really cool.
+
+01:01:51.000 --> 01:02:00.000
+But they were references to that viruses, which have been genetically engineered in Google, perhaps, for a gain of function or to translate to make them more infectious to human cells.
+
+01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:02.000
+And they described perfectly how they done it.
+
+01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:04.000
+They had to also show that that they did.
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+In case you're unaware, you can still go to this channel here, J.C. on a bike, and you can still see.
+
+01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:33.000
+The proximal origin paper to these viruses, which is pretty cool.
+
+01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:35.000
+Hey, this is J.C. on a bike.
+
+01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:37.000
+Thanks for joining me on this ride.
+
+01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:42.000
+I'm going to talk about the new nature medicine paper, the proximal origins of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
+
+01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:49.000
+And I'm also going to mention this other nature paper, which recently came out by one of those same authors showing the various recently discovered.
+
+01:02:49.000 --> 01:03:00.000
+Coronavirus variants that are found in pangolins, specifically pangolins that were sort of stopped by customs in China in 2017, 18, and 19.
+
+01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:06.000
+So very interesting data. Join me on the bike.
+
+01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:16.000
+So the point is that this never got taken down from YouTube, even though I talk all about how they're full of crap.
+
+01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:20.000
+Why wouldn't it get taken down from YouTube?
+
+01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:25.000
+Because it's part of the Scooby-Doo.
+
+01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:29.000
+It's right on narrative. That's why it didn't get taken down.
+
+01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:34.000
+I don't challenge anything in this that they didn't want me to challenge.
+
+01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:41.000
+I don't figure out anything in this that they don't want everybody to figure out.
+
+01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:46.000
+And this guy isn't helping us figure out anything that they don't want us to already want to figure out.
+
+01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:56.000
+This is part of the Scooby-Doo. And either he is completely taken or he is completely taking John Campbell.
+
+01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:59.000
+I encourage them to get even better at this by passaging them.
+
+01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:03.000
+That means putting them through all different types of human cells so they take and they adapt to and they get more infectious.
+
+01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:07.000
+They also virologists are rather amusingly call this polishing.
+
+01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:11.000
+You polish the virus so it becomes even more adaptable to the cell that it seems.
+
+01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:13.000
+I wish they wouldn't bother.
+
+01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:16.000
+So this is like a natural evolution, but it's accelerated.
+
+01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:18.000
+It's accelerated evolution dramatically.
+
+01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:25.000
+So when I looked at these papers, I thought, this insert they just put in and they published.
+
+01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:27.000
+It's exactly the same one that said the cells do.
+
+01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:30.000
+They're using this as evidence that didn't come from the map.
+
+01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:36.000
+So the same insert that the genetic instruction, the letters, the RNA letters in the Wuhan publication were the same as the ones that turned up in the virus.
+
+01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:39.000
+And strangely, I believe the Wuhan database went.
+
+01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:40.000
+That's not real.
+
+01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:42.000
+That's not right.
+
+01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:45.000
+That's crazy.
+
+01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:47.000
+Listen to this carefully.
+
+01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:49.000
+That is not right.
+
+01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:50.000
+Papers.
+
+01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:54.000
+I thought this insert they just put in and they published.
+
+01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:57.000
+It's exactly the same one that said the cells do.
+
+01:04:57.000 --> 01:04:59.000
+They're using this as evidence that didn't come from the map.
+
+01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:01.000
+So the same insert.
+
+01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:07.000
+No, what they did was they moved a receptor binding domain from one virus to another.
+
+01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:12.000
+And maybe they even moved a spike from one virus to another.
+
+01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:20.000
+They made a chimera, but they didn't take the exact insert and put it in this virus.
+
+01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:22.000
+That's wrong.
+
+01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:25.000
+And so again, here's another one of these.
+
+01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:43.000
+Anybody that wants to like that, that lady with the little dog with the really annoying voice that likes to debunk biology can look at John Campbell and say to John Campbell and this other guy don't know what they're talking about.
+
+01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:46.000
+And debunk the funk and do the same thing here.
+
+01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:49.000
+Because this is wrong.
+
+01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:57.000
+But it's not what they did. They made a chimeric virus and it was actually, they did it on pseudoviruses too.
+
+01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:09.000
+And so it's the same mistake that everybody makes is that they don't actually do what they have led you to believe that they did.
+
+01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:20.000
+They have not created pandemic potential in the laboratory by making infectious clones of a chimeric RNA sequence.
+
+01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:24.000
+They haven't.
+
+01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:29.000
+And these guys are John Campbell is being fooled by this guy and it's terrible.
+
+01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:31.000
+It's terrible.
+
+01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:39.000
+The genetic instruction, the letters, the RNA letters in the Wuhan publication with the same as the ones that turned up in the virus.
+
+01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:44.000
+And strangely, I believe the Wuhan database went offline. I believe it was September 2019.
+
+01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:55.000
+Yes, it did. And that's a very important date this September, because just from my personal view and interest in getting interested in COVID, I was able to identify two families who clearly went down with COVID in November.
+
+01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:59.000
+So what are we getting out here now spread.
+
+01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:03.000
+There was absolutely spread because they brought it from Hong Kong.
+
+01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:07.000
+Could have brought a clone clones would spread.
+
+01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:14.000
+I do think clones would spread for a few people. If you got the clone, you can make your your family get sick.
+
+01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:18.000
+So what are we getting out here now spread.
+
+01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:22.000
+There was absolutely spread because they brought it from Hong Kong.
+
+01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:27.000
+Could have brought a clone clones would spread.
+
+01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:34.000
+I do think clones would spread for a few people. If you got the clone, you can make your your family get sick.
+
+01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:35.000
+It's possible.
+
+01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:42.000
+You have more chance of shedding infectious RNA than somebody who gets an actual coronavirus. That's for damn sure.
+
+01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:47.000
+And more likely to shed a consistent sequence.
+
+01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:53.000
+It's all clones. The only thing that could do this is clones and they know that.
+
+01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:58.000
+And this guy's covering it up. That's what I think I'm just going to be real pessimistic and honest.
+
+01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:10.000
+I don't I think he's fooling. He's fooling John Campbell to make sure that John Campbell doesn't go all the way to figuring out that Mike Eden was right and it's just a bunch of lies.
+
+01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:18.000
+He doesn't want him ever to get that far. So, you know, he gives him a lot of good biology. He gives him a lot of good cancer data.
+
+01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:22.000
+Now he comes on for a second time and takes the Scooby-Doo and dunks it.
+
+01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:27.000
+Closely connected to London and Birmingham here. You've always got to be back and forth.
+
+01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:30.000
+In the November 2019 in the UK.
+
+01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:37.000
+And the thing about the the importance of September was they were they were very suspicious about something going on.
+
+01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:42.000
+That's why they took it down. It was also interesting that that viruses that they were working on,
+
+01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:47.000
+which had clearly been harvested from a mine that thousand miles away.
+
+01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:49.000
+It's like North Thailand area, wasn't it?
+
+01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:52.000
+And they brought them back and they sequenced all sorts of things that they started working on.
+
+01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:57.000
+They didn't register them in the databases until all this stuff started.
+
+01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:02.000
+Now, that's extremely unusual to do this very late registration for viruses that have been there you've been working with.
+
+01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:08.000
+That not only made us very suspicious, but also other people suspicious who started to wonder what's going on.
+
+01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:12.000
+And the whole details of these sequences, the evolution history,
+
+01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:16.000
+has actually been very well documented by Matt Ridley and his collegely Shannon there.
+
+01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:21.000
+But while they go into that part of the evidence, Matt Ridley and his collegely Shannon there.
+
+01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:27.000
+But while there's actually been very well documented by Matt Ridley and his collegely Shannon there.
+
+01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:28.000
+But while they go.
+
+01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:32.000
+Did he say Alina Chan? I don't think he said that he said at least something or other,
+
+01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:35.000
+but it's Alina Chan that wrote the book with Matt Ridley, right?
+
+01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:41.000
+Into that part of the evidence extremely well, which I believe is very very complimentary to the way we did it.
+
+01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:45.000
+And then after with the paper, I mentioned about this person Anderson one,
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+01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:48.000
+that one that we then found that Fauci had a commissioned.
+
+01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:51.000
+They were a bit suspicious about being so black and white about it.
+
+01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:56.000
+But once he had that paper published in nature medicine, which was submitted and published in five days,
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+01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:00.000
+something which never happened in a peer reviewed journal ever.
+
+01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:05.000
+And, you know, as soon as it was out, Fauci was waving it around Congress, NIH, here's the proof.
+
+01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:07.000
+And this became a very everybody was sort of proof.
+
+01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:09.000
+And anybody who said anything else was a conspiracy theory.
+
+01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:11.000
+Well, it's got to be true because it's in nature.
+
+01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:12.000
+At until you've chosen it.
+
+01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:16.000
+So I pointed out with my colleagues, like this paper was the most flawed.
+
+01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:18.000
+In fact, I actually said it's the worst scientific paper I've ever come across in my life,
+
+01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:22.000
+because normally you have to search hard to find out that the references don't support the ludicrous statements.
+
+01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:25.000
+So this was glaring in the, that even I could pick it up quickly.
+
+01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:26.000
+That's wrong.
+
+01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:30.000
+And they turned it down and said, we've got nothing against your science,
+
+01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:32.000
+but it's not in the public interest for us to report this.
+
+01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:33.000
+That's what nature told you.
+
+01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:34.000
+That's what they told me.
+
+01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:36.000
+We did the same to science, general virology, landscape.
+
+01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:37.000
+They all said exactly the same thing.
+
+01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:41.000
+And sometimes we were rejected within five hours, because you can do electronic submission.
+
+01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:44.000
+Well, he's got to know that the journals have got the public interest at heart professor, isn't it?
+
+01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:45.000
+This is just unbelievable censorship.
+
+01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.000
+And it's a public interest to think about the truth out there.
+
+01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:48.000
+It's the only situation I can come to.
+
+01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:52.000
+And so if they're prepared to do that with something as obvious as the original virus,
+
+01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:54.000
+what are they prepared to do with everything else?
+
+01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:59.000
+The social implications, the non-pharmaceutical interventions, drug treatments, vaccines,
+
+01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:01.000
+I think they basically are clearly to let us.
+
+01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:02.000
+That's what that's like.
+
+01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:05.000
+Well, then you just almost got there though, see?
+
+01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:11.000
+If they're willing to lie about the origin, what else are they willing to lie about?
+
+01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:13.000
+He's so close.
+
+01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:15.000
+He's so close.
+
+01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:19.000
+All he has to realize is that they might lie about the virus itself.
+
+01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:27.000
+So the combination of tests, fear, uncertainty, doubt, bad protocols.
+
+01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:32.000
+Rinse and repeat.
+
+01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:35.000
+There's been an equation I can come to.
+
+01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:38.000
+And so if they're prepared to do that with something as obvious as the original virus,
+
+01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:42.000
+what are they prepared to do with everything else, the social implications,
+
+01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:45.000
+the non-pharmaceutical interventions, drug treatments, vaccines,
+
+01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:47.000
+I think they basically are clearly to let us.
+
+01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:48.000
+That's what that's my take.
+
+01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:49.000
+You know, we can say.
+
+01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:50.000
+Okay.
+
+01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:54.000
+So now all he has to do is come to the realization that he is still apportioning blame
+
+01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:57.000
+and cause and effect incorrectly.
+
+01:11:57.000 --> 01:12:01.000
+And that he's still attributing too much to the virus.
+
+01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:04.000
+But he believes that some people brought the virus from Hong Kong.
+
+01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:07.000
+So obviously there's a virus he believes in the variants,
+
+01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:09.000
+even though they're not as dangerous as the first one,
+
+01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:15.000
+because the first one was supremely adapted to infecting and destroying human cells.
+
+01:12:15.000 --> 01:12:22.000
+And then it's been here as being manipulated in a laboratory to do so.
+
+01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:26.000
+It's possible that people on this side of the narrative are only going to be
+
+01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:30.000
+get this far without our help.
+
+01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:32.000
+That's the design.
+
+01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:37.000
+This is supposed to feel like an extremely comfortable landing to these people.
+
+01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:39.000
+So don't underestimate.
+
+01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:42.000
+It doesn't have to be that he was chosen to carry it.
+
+01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:45.000
+This is where we want him to go.
+
+01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:49.000
+This is where everybody that's influencing him,
+
+01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:52.000
+everybody that's influencing John Campbell,
+
+01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:55.000
+wants him to go right here.
+
+01:12:55.000 --> 01:13:01.000
+This is the sweet spot where we're not really talking about what percentage
+
+01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:06.000
+Professor DeGlish would you attribute to all cause mortality?
+
+01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:11.000
+What percentage would you attribute to the protocols versus the virus?
+
+01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:17.000
+He's not at the point where we are, where we see the
+
+01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:20.000
+Iatrogenic murder for what it is.
+
+01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:23.000
+He sees that as a complication.
+
+01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:26.000
+He sees it probably there,
+
+01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:31.000
+but he would really need to be convinced by somebody like Denny
+
+01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:37.000
+that the all cause mortality does not reveal a novel,
+
+01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:43.000
+new cause of death on top of all the other ways that people were dying before this.
+
+01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:48.000
+And he is convinced that there is a new cause of death.
+
+01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:54.000
+A new cause of death that was supremely adapted to infecting
+
+01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:58.000
+and destroying human cells upon release years after being years
+
+01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:03.000
+manipulated in a laboratory to do so.
+
+01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:05.000
+We've got a lot of work to do, ladies and gentlemen,
+
+01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:07.000
+because this is the landing bay.
+
+01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:11.000
+This is where they're landing and we've got to catch them now
+
+01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:15.000
+before they pad themselves on the back too much and walk off into the sunset
+
+01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:17.000
+and get a drink together.
+
+01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:18.000
+Confused.
+
+01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:20.000
+Well, you don't sound confused to me,
+
+01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:22.000
+and if we can't rely on the medical journals,
+
+01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:25.000
+I mean, you know, as someone who's, I mean, I taught evidence-based practice
+
+01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:28.000
+since it first came out in the 1990s with David Sackett teaching.
+
+01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:31.000
+You know, to take away this fundamental axiom of evidence-based medicine,
+
+01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:34.000
+which is the best available evidence, then we stand on fresh air.
+
+01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:35.000
+We stand on nothing.
+
+01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:37.000
+But they even took away the ability to debate it.
+
+01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:38.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:39.000
+It's all about debate.
+
+01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:40.000
+It's not about sensory.
+
+01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:42.000
+And that's why, I mean, I've recently sent a book with colleagues
+
+01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:44.000
+to the press called The Death of Silence.
+
+01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:45.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:46.000
+And it was brought to that.
+
+01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:48.000
+Because I started writing about the, you know,
+
+01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.000
+clearly a nonsense and logicality of lockdown.
+
+01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:52.000
+And a friend saw me doing that.
+
+01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.000
+I said, what do you think? How should we do it?
+
+01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:55.000
+He said, I've got a lot to learn.
+
+01:14:55.000 --> 01:14:57.000
+The next thing we knew, anyway, we were editors.
+
+01:14:57.000 --> 01:14:58.000
+We were not authors anymore.
+
+01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.000
+I can't wait to get a copy. When's this out?
+
+01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.000
+It's going to come out very shortly. It's in the printers now.
+
+01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:03.000
+Probably in November.
+
+01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:05.000
+And if you'd like to come on and talk about it,
+
+01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:06.000
+we would like to hear about it.
+
+01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:08.000
+And it was because, you know, when I was writing about lockdown,
+
+01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:10.000
+I said, evidence is all here, but they take no notice of it.
+
+01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:12.000
+This really is The Death of Silence.
+
+01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:13.000
+And my friend said, that's a brilliant title.
+
+01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:14.000
+We're going to use this.
+
+01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:15.000
+And I'm going to expand it with you.
+
+01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:16.000
+Well, it's brilliant.
+
+01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:18.000
+One word I would say tragic or devastating is another word.
+
+01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:21.000
+Now, there doesn't seem to be any naturally occurring
+
+01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:24.000
+Saskarone virus to that's ever been found in animal reservoirs
+
+01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:26.000
+or human reservoirs or before the pandemic.
+
+01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:30.000
+Was there any immunological evidence of these, of such a virus?
+
+01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:31.000
+Do you think that is relevant?
+
+01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:33.000
+Well, you've touched on something.
+
+01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:34.000
+It's not exactly what you asked me,
+
+01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:37.000
+but it actually helps explain very, very well what's going on here.
+
+01:15:37.000 --> 01:15:40.000
+When we had MERS, and we had the first...
+
+01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:45.000
+That's not true, though, because we had seroprevalence in blood samples.
+
+01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:48.000
+We looked at this in...
+
+01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:49.000
+God dang it.
+
+01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:53.000
+We looked at this...
+
+01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:54.000
+I'm going to get this open.
+
+01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:56.000
+I'm so upset that he's saying this.
+
+01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:58.000
+This is not right.
+
+01:15:58.000 --> 01:15:59.000
+We looked at this.
+
+01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:03.000
+It's part of an immunology talk I gave many years ago already.
+
+01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:05.000
+He's wrong.
+
+01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:07.000
+We looked before the pandemic.
+
+01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.000
+Or is this paper?
+
+01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:15.000
+And there are healthy donors that have the same...
+
+01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:18.000
+The same look.
+
+01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:20.000
+I mean, this is here it is.
+
+01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:22.000
+This is really it.
+
+01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:28.000
+If I just... This is just one paper.
+
+01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:33.000
+This is healthy donors pre-COVID.
+
+01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:36.000
+This is healthy donors, health care staff pre-COVID.
+
+01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:38.000
+They have ORF1A.
+
+01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:41.000
+They have S.
+
+01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:43.000
+They have N.
+
+01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:45.000
+It's not nothing.
+
+01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:47.000
+They have T cells.
+
+01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:54.000
+They have T cells that overlap with this virus on many epitopes.
+
+01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:56.000
+And it's not this one paper.
+
+01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:57.000
+It's hundreds.
+
+01:16:57.000 --> 01:16:59.000
+Well, maybe tens.
+
+01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:04.000
+So it's a very strange thing to say when there are papers in highest journals
+
+01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:10.000
+which have shown overlapping T cell memory that existed before the pandemic
+
+01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:15.000
+from around the world and seroprevalence studies.
+
+01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:16.000
+Saskarone virus too.
+
+01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:19.000
+That's ever been found in animal reservoirs or human reservoirs.
+
+01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:23.000
+Or before the pandemic, was there any immunological evidence of the...
+
+01:17:23.000 --> 01:17:24.000
+...of seroprevalence?
+
+01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:26.000
+Do you think that is relevant?
+
+01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:27.000
+Well, you've touched on something.
+
+01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:28.000
+It's not exactly what you asked me,
+
+01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:31.000
+but it actually helps explain very, very well what's going on here.
+
+01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:34.000
+But when we had MERS, we had the first...
+
+01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:35.000
+It's 2001.
+
+01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:36.000
+In 2003.
+
+01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:38.000
+And then we had the SARS one.
+
+01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:39.000
+Oh, yeah.
+
+01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:40.000
+Sorry, yeah.
+
+01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:43.000
+And anyway, one had camel and the other was back to civic and things.
+
+01:17:43.000 --> 01:17:46.000
+But the MERS was camels and the SARS was a civic.
+
+01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:48.000
+Now, when you had those viruses on the test,
+
+01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:50.000
+you could go back to the area they were found in
+
+01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:53.000
+and you could do serological analysis of everybody being into hospital
+
+01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:54.000
+and they had a blood test.
+
+01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:57.000
+And you could show they were traces there for months in the community
+
+01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:00.000
+while said virus jumped back and forth from back to civic,
+
+01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:02.000
+so it's a human or the camel that comes up to it.
+
+01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:04.000
+And it was doing the polishing.
+
+01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:08.000
+It was getting good enough to get infected to build up a viral load
+
+01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:10.000
+whereas, from the first time, the disease become evidence.
+
+01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:12.000
+Now, that you can find for months.
+
+01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:16.000
+In SARS two, they couldn't find a single serological imprint around...
+
+01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:18.000
+...even around Wuhan or anything.
+
+01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:20.000
+They could find absolutely nothing.
+
+01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:23.000
+Which meant it had not escaped naturally.
+
+01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:27.000
+It had gone out there, full bore, able to infect and cause high viral loads
+
+01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:29.000
+in the first people that went out and hit.
+
+01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:32.000
+And the other thing is, in previous outbreaks...
+
+01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:35.000
+You know, it caused high viral loads and the first people that it hit
+
+01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:40.000
+is a transfection agent encoding a coronavirus genome.
+
+01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:44.000
+A transfection agent encoding a coronavirus spike protein.
+
+01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:53.000
+A transfection agent encoding a coronavirus genome, a coronavirus clone...
+
+01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:56.000
+...would definitely cause high viral loads.
+
+01:18:56.000 --> 01:19:02.000
+A well-developed high-fidelity molecular signature...
+
+01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:08.000
+...with a high probability of giving you the sequence that you wanted to find...
+
+01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:11.000
+...that you wanted to include in your vaccine.
+
+01:19:11.000 --> 01:19:14.000
+It had all the inserts in it.
+
+01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:17.000
+You see, you can't have it both ways.
+
+01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:25.000
+If this was a genuine coronavirus consensus sequence...
+
+01:19:25.000 --> 01:19:31.000
+...the sequences would not have had all of these inserts in it, and it wouldn't have been so obvious.
+
+01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:35.000
+If it would have been a natural sequence, it would have been a consensus sequence...
+
+01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:38.000
+...not the sequence generated from a clone.
+
+01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:48.000
+Therefore, the odds of this actual sequence having been found in multiple places around the world is zero.
+
+01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:50.000
+It's zero.
+
+01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:53.000
+The only way that can happen is through a clone.
+
+01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:58.000
+And what that got them was their protein in the virus...
+
+01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:07.000
+...that they wanted to use for their transfection because they knew that their protein would cause a robust...
+
+01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:12.000
+...repeatable, redosable, antibody response.
+
+01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:16.000
+And that's all they cared about because they knew they could make the pandemic.
+
+01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:18.000
+The pandemic was a lie.
+
+01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:22.000
+What they needed to also be able to do was make it seem as though...
+
+01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:25.000
+...the RNA saved people.
+
+01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:28.000
+And if there wasn't a clear clinical signal to point to...
+
+01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:33.000
+...if there wasn't a clear seroprevalence to point to that they could call immunity...
+
+01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:36.000
+...then they wouldn't be able to tell the story that they're telling now...
+
+01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:43.000
+...which between 14 and 19 million people were saved by it.
+
+01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:46.000
+These guys are confused by the same thing that we were confused...
+
+01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:50.000
+...but they're coming at it from the TV and social media side...
+
+01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:55.000
+...as far away from the truth as you could be.
+
+01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:57.000
+That's why it's difficult to watch.
+
+01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:59.000
+That's why it's frustrating to watch.
+
+01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:04.000
+That's why it seems like I'm so critical.
+
+01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:06.000
+But this is what's necessary.
+
+01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:09.000
+We've been able to find multiple outbreaks at multiple times.
+
+01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:13.000
+So if the virus becomes endemic in a human or an animal population...
+
+01:21:13.000 --> 01:21:16.000
+...then the animals could spread out over 10 miles, 100 miles, 700 miles.
+
+01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:19.000
+The bizarinotic transfer here, then the bizarinotic transfer in Carl Ireland...
+
+01:21:19.000 --> 01:21:22.000
+...zarinotic transfer in London and zarinotic transfer in Johnny Groats...
+
+01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:24.000
+...and we would get different outbreaks at different times.
+
+01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:26.000
+We didn't see that sort of single outbreak.
+
+01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:28.000
+Is that significant as well?
+
+01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:29.000
+I think it's highly significant.
+
+01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:34.000
+They may well have been two or three seedings in different populations...
+
+01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:36.000
+...for slightly different takes.
+
+01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:39.000
+But they all at the same time, they all came from the same laboratory specimen.
+
+01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:42.000
+And they found some of the first people to get infected with people actually involved.
+
+01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:47.000
+If the same laboratory specimen or what would a laboratory specimen be a clone...
+
+01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:50.000
+...there is only one kind of laboratory specimen...
+
+01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:54.000
+...that exists in sufficient purity and sufficient quantity...
+
+01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:57.000
+...to cause a lab leak with a significant...
+
+01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:00.000
+...and high enough fidelity signal like this...
+
+01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.000
+...and that would be an infectious clone.
+
+01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:06.000
+Laboratory sample is an infectious clone.
+
+01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:11.000
+Olden mixing the suits of these viruses.
+
+01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:14.000
+And the other thing I could not understand is when we pointed out...
+
+01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:15.000
+...it has to be a lab leak.
+
+01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:17.000
+Whereas the fact that no of these labs are tubular...
+
+01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:18.000
+...they can't possibly escape.
+
+01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:21.000
+When we could find six reports of the standard literature...
+
+01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:25.000
+...six detailed reports of the SARS virus having escaped from laboratories...
+
+01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:27.000
+...one in Taiwan, one in Singapore, four from China.
+
+01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:29.000
+This is the original SARS-2000.
+
+01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:31.000
+There are more reports of audio on a sink besides family.
+
+01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:35.000
+And the other thing that was very clear from a previous inspection of Wuhan...
+
+01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:38.000
+...was the level of security.
+
+01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:41.000
+It was very poor for a laboratory specimen.
+
+01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:43.000
+So, it meant that escape was inevitable in my book.
+
+01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:46.000
+So, why should they call such a fuss about it couldn't possibly escape?
+
+01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:49.000
+And anything to say, well, I'm a great believer in the...
+
+01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:51.000
+...I called it the...
+
+01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:54.000
+...the first Douglas Law of Universal Human Incompetence.
+
+01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:57.000
+I subscribe to that one as well.
+
+01:22:57.000 --> 01:23:00.000
+Human incompetence is far more likely than any sort of...
+
+01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:01.000
+...inline intent.
+
+01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:03.000
+It may be behind it, but usually what you end up dealing with...
+
+01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:04.000
+...is a piece of human incompetence.
+
+01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:05.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:07.000
+It was a way with the mouth outbreak, too.
+
+01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:08.000
+Yeah, yeah.
+
+01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:10.000
+So, the three options for the viral origin are natural zoonotic...
+
+01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:12.000
+...accidental lab leak or deliberate lab leak.
+
+01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:14.000
+I think I'm with you, accidental lab leak.
+
+01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:19.000
+So, that's where I came from.
+
+01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:21.000
+That this was a lab leak.
+
+01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:23.000
+And the problem was they tried to cover it up.
+
+01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:24.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:25.000
+Instead of coming clean.
+
+01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:27.000
+And here is something really, really nasty and sinister.
+
+01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:31.000
+They actually got the WHO into going along with them trying to cover it up.
+
+01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:35.000
+If the WHO had been under the previous ages of the...
+
+01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:37.000
+...the previous head whose name just escapes me...
+
+01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:39.000
+...who was not under the control of the child.
+
+01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:40.000
+The, like, Tetris was...
+
+01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:42.000
+...and who should never be dead at WHO.
+
+01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:43.000
+He wasn't even a medic.
+
+01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:45.000
+He was over there for political reasons.
+
+01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:46.000
+He did what he was told.
+
+01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:47.000
+Shut up, didn't do it.
+
+01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:50.000
+Had they done their job, this would never have escaped to the rest of the world.
+
+01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:52.000
+I'm talking to lots of people involved in these things.
+
+01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:53.000
+I completely believe that.
+
+01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:56.000
+It would have been contained in Wuhan area, Kubei area.
+
+01:23:56.000 --> 01:23:58.000
+And it would never have gone outside China.
+
+01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:01.000
+So, flights from China, the WHO at the time specifically said...
+
+01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:03.000
+...we should carry on flying in and out of China.
+
+01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:04.000
+Even at that time I was bemused.
+
+01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:06.000
+That was madness.
+
+01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:09.000
+But the real sinister thing here is that the WHO said...
+
+01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:13.000
+...in order to handle this better next time, we need all the powers assigned to us.
+
+01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:16.000
+That is, I would rather sign a suicide pact.
+
+01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:17.000
+I know UK.
+
+01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:20.000
+Well, never let a good crisis go to a waste professor.
+
+01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:24.000
+Well, hopefully we've got to May next year to come to our census.
+
+01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:26.000
+But I don't hold out much properly.
+
+01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:30.000
+People who seem to run and advise these things seem to be the most inappropriate people.
+
+01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:32.000
+And the government seems to be so poorly educated.
+
+01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:34.000
+And so intellectually lazy.
+
+01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:35.000
+They go along with all this.
+
+01:24:35.000 --> 01:24:36.000
+Yep.
+
+01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:37.000
+And we have done several videos on that.
+
+01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:40.000
+People like James Riggoski, who has done absolutely stirling work on that.
+
+01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:41.000
+Now, I keep getting questions on this.
+
+01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:42.000
+I've never fully understood it.
+
+01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:44.000
+How similar, how homologous...
+
+01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:48.000
+...are SARS coronavirus 2 sequences with the HIV virus?
+
+01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:49.000
+With the...
+
+01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:50.000
+...which virus?
+
+01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:51.000
+...the human immunodeficiency virus.
+
+01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:52.000
+Oh, sorry.
+
+01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:53.000
+HIV virus.
+
+01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:54.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:55.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:56.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:57.000
+I got told off one.
+
+01:24:57.000 --> 01:24:58.000
+A viologist told me off.
+
+01:24:58.000 --> 01:24:59.000
+He says, I said the HIV virus.
+
+01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:00.000
+He said, how can you have the HIV virus virus?
+
+01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.000
+So, since then, I've always tried to say HIV virus.
+
+01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:03.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:04.000
+I always...
+
+01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:05.000
+I've always just say HIV.
+
+01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:06.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:07.000
+There's very, very little homology.
+
+01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:10.000
+But there is a tiny little bit of homology.
+
+01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:12.000
+And this little homology is real.
+
+01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:14.000
+But I think we've discovered why it's there.
+
+01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:17.000
+When I mentioned about how they get their back viruses,
+
+01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:19.000
+and they train them to infect human receptors,
+
+01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:22.000
+they put the human ACE receptor into a cell,
+
+01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:25.000
+a neutral cell, with an HIV lentivirus.
+
+01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:27.000
+So, the virus takes some receptor in,
+
+01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:29.000
+gets integrated up, and then it gets expressed on the cell
+
+01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:31.000
+that would never normally present it.
+
+01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:32.000
+Those little HIV sequences...
+
+01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:34.000
+...but it was an HIV lentivirus.
+
+01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:36.000
+So, when you look at the sequences, you're picking up
+
+01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:38.000
+the sequences from the vector.
+
+01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:40.000
+The ACE receptor was introduced to the cell with.
+
+01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:41.000
+The viruses picked them up.
+
+01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:43.000
+So, the homology is really...
+
+01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:44.000
+There's nothing to do.
+
+01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:45.000
+There's no link with the two.
+
+01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:46.000
+But...
+
+01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:47.000
+...but...
+
+01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:49.000
+...those sequences to be absolutely confirmed.
+
+01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:51.000
+But it was not only genetically engineered,
+
+01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:53.000
+but it was heavily passaged through that.
+
+01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:54.000
+And that's because of that passage,
+
+01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:55.000
+it's picked up those HIV sequences.
+
+01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:56.000
+But that's purely all it is.
+
+01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:58.000
+There's no big homology with the two.
+
+01:25:58.000 --> 01:25:59.000
+Right.
+
+01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:00.000
+Good.
+
+01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:01.000
+Now, the last question is...
+
+01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:02.000
+I've only ever...
+
+01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:05.000
+So, he says that the HIV homology is coming from
+
+01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:08.000
+repeated passage in cells
+
+01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:12.000
+in which they are expressing the ACE2 receptor using...
+
+01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:14.000
+...using HIV retroviruses...
+
+01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:18.000
+...or pseudoviruses of HIV.
+
+01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:21.000
+So, that's a technique that I don't...
+
+01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:24.000
+...I can't come up with a paper that uses...
+
+01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:25.000
+...sudo-virus...
+
+01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:28.000
+...HIV pseudoviruses to...
+
+01:26:28.000 --> 01:26:32.000
+...express ACE2 in cells...
+
+01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:34.000
+...has a model of viral infection.
+
+01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:36.000
+I don't... I can't think of one off the top of my head.
+
+01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:37.000
+I don't think he's right about that.
+
+01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:41.000
+I think that might be another mistake.
+
+01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:44.000
+I'm really sorry that the...
+
+01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:46.000
+...that the audio keeps going out of sync.
+
+01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:49.000
+It could be that my hard drive is just getting full.
+
+01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:52.000
+And so, I need to do something about that.
+
+01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:55.000
+It's hard for me to believe that's the case.
+
+01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:57.000
+I think it's more likely that...
+
+01:26:57.000 --> 01:27:00.000
+...I don't know. I have something set up wrong.
+
+01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:03.000
+I think...
+
+01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:05.000
+...maybe I'll just leave it go.
+
+01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:06.000
+We'll get done.
+
+01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:08.000
+But partly understood this.
+
+01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:11.000
+There's a furin cleavage site on the spike protein of the virus.
+
+01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:15.000
+And furin is a protein on the surface of human cells.
+
+01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:18.000
+Now, this furin cleavage site...
+
+01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:20.000
+...I kind of think of it as kicking over...
+
+01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:22.000
+...kicking open these furin doors...
+
+01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:25.000
+...to allow the virus into the cell so it can reproduce.
+
+01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:27.000
+So, is that kind of vaguely right?
+
+01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:31.000
+And what is the significance of finding the furin cleavage site on the spike protein?
+
+01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:33.000
+The significance of furin cleavage site...
+
+01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:35.000
+...is the spike protein of the SARS and MERS virus group...
+
+01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:38.000
+...because it's never been there any of these viruses whatsoever.
+
+01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:41.000
+So, just to clarify that, sorry, the MERS and the SARS-Coronavirus-1...
+
+01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:43.000
+...don't have a furin cleavage site.
+
+01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:44.000
+No, no, no, no.
+
+01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:46.000
+But any... within that phylogeny of the coronaviruses...
+
+01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:47.000
+...from which these...
+
+01:27:47.000 --> 01:27:49.000
+I'm pretty sure MERS does, doesn't it?
+
+01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:51.000
+I think it does, but I could be wrong.
+
+01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:53.000
+It's alright, whatever.
+
+01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:55.000
+So, SARS-Coronavirus-2 is the only coronavirus that we know of...
+
+01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:57.000
+...with a furin cleavage site?
+
+01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:59.000
+Of the sort that can infect man?
+
+01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:00.000
+Yes.
+
+01:28:00.000 --> 01:28:02.000
+There are some animal coronaviruses...
+
+01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:04.000
+...and my virus, your friends, keep proudly telling me...
+
+01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:06.000
+...do have furin cleavage sites, but they don't infect us.
+
+01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:08.000
+This is the only one that does.
+
+01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:11.000
+Now, the furin cleavage site was put into these bat sounds by people...
+
+01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:14.000
+...in the way they found that, because they boasted about it that they did it.
+
+01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:17.000
+These same people, when they presented the sequence of the virus in nature...
+
+01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:20.000
+...the furin cleavage site is screaming and playing sight.
+
+01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:22.000
+They discuss everything else about the sequence...
+
+01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:24.000
+...but they don't discuss the furin cleavage site.
+
+01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:25.000
+They probably forgot.
+
+01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:27.000
+Oh, that's a very kinder.
+
+01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:29.000
+They put it in there.
+
+01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:30.000
+Good, yeah.
+
+01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:31.000
+No.
+
+01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:33.000
+And what a furin cleavage site does is basically...
+
+01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:36.000
+...if you have the virus getting onto the cell, you can lock on pretty tight...
+
+01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:39.000
+...but you have to work pretty hard to get through the cell membrane.
+
+01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:42.000
+But a furin cleavage site is like giving the virus an extra pair of scissors...
+
+01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:45.000
+...so I can just spit through and get into that very, very quickly.
+
+01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:47.000
+That never occurs in this type of virus.
+
+01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:49.000
+It was put there in the Wuhan lab...
+
+01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:52.000
+...and it was like magic.
+
+01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:55.000
+You don't see it there, but you had to look very carefully...
+
+01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:58.000
+...and my colleagues picked it up and pointed it out.
+
+01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:00.000
+And they found that other people had pointed it out...
+
+01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.000
+...they had bought it more almost a famous virus.
+
+01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:03.000
+It's very hard.
+
+01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:04.000
+They called it the smoking gun.
+
+01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:07.000
+This David Baltimore saw the furin cleavage site.
+
+01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:08.000
+I didn't know that.
+
+01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:11.000
+That's a nice little tidbit we get out of this.
+
+01:29:11.000 --> 01:29:13.000
+David Baltimore.
+
+01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:14.000
+Wow.
+
+01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:16.000
+It's a regular home run there.
+
+01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:18.000
+This went as far as the Washington Post, and it was all dismissed.
+
+01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:21.000
+There was nonsense of no importance.
+
+01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:23.000
+And then another load of virologists came up and said,
+
+01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:25.000
+well, some viruses had this, which is true.
+
+01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:27.000
+But not the sort of viruses we're dealing with.
+
+01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:30.000
+It's like saying some animals have trumps, if humans don't.
+
+01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:31.000
+Exactly.
+
+01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:35.000
+And then the other thing about this, they tried so hard to say...
+
+01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:39.000
+...to go against our discussions here, which other people joined slowly.
+
+01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:42.000
+They said, oh, but we found this virus as present in a raccoon.
+
+01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:44.000
+And so it came from the raccoon.
+
+01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:46.000
+So they looked around all the raccoons.
+
+01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:48.000
+No, this is the only one. It could be a false positive.
+
+01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:49.000
+And you get papers coming.
+
+01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:52.000
+There was a paper from, say, a city in Scotland...
+
+01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:54.000
+...which tried desperately hard to open up the narrative.
+
+01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:56.000
+It was a natural jump, apparently.
+
+01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:58.000
+And by this time, I don't have to do my science.
+
+01:29:58.000 --> 01:29:59.000
+I just looked at their funding.
+
+01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:00.000
+China.
+
+01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:01.000
+It's ridiculous.
+
+01:30:01.000 --> 01:30:03.000
+They might have to go to the river.
+
+01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:05.000
+The first scientific analysis is these days.
+
+01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:06.000
+Who the heck paid for this?
+
+01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:07.000
+Who is funding?
+
+01:30:07.000 --> 01:30:11.000
+And unfortunately, it's even more important when you get into treatments of vaccines.
+
+01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:12.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:13.000
+I don't want to get into that now.
+
+01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:16.000
+But the reason I'm so concerned about the virologians is,
+
+01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:20.000
+is it possible that humans could be jiggery-pokering around with a virus,
+
+01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:22.000
+which is as transmissible as, say,
+
+01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:25.000
+these also are an omicron virus, but as deadly as, say,
+
+01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:27.000
+in a bowl of virus, it's such a thing possible.
+
+01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:28.000
+Yes, it is.
+
+01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:29.000
+And this is all called the gain of function.
+
+01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:31.000
+And this is under the Obama administration they banned.
+
+01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:34.000
+The scientists and I've got a colleague I know myself.
+
+01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:39.000
+Basically, he calls all virology gain of function in the desperate attempt to try and preserve it.
+
+01:30:39.000 --> 01:30:40.000
+No, it is...
+
+01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:42.000
+I mean, the sort of thing that was being done was absolutely mad.
+
+01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:43.000
+It was basically...
+
+01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:46.000
+It was inevitable that a pandemic would arise out of this nonsense.
+
+01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:48.000
+Obama and people banned it, but they tried to go to an exception.
+
+01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:50.000
+And who was the person who tried to get the exception?
+
+01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:55.000
+And that was Anthony Fauci in order to have things in case something dreadful came along.
+
+01:30:55.000 --> 01:30:56.000
+Very exceptional cases.
+
+01:30:56.000 --> 01:30:58.000
+Well, he wasn't allowed to do it in his own place.
+
+01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:01.000
+So he funded this work to be done in Wuhan via the eco-health alliance,
+
+01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:05.000
+via a person called Peter Doze, who is very, very friendly with back woman,
+
+01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:11.000
+who's lab did this very manipulation that led to it coming out, to escaping.
+
+01:31:11.000 --> 01:31:14.000
+So Wayne Fauci went to these extreme lengths to deny this.
+
+01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:17.000
+I immediately knew he was covering his backside over this,
+
+01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:18.000
+but he realized he was in trouble.
+
+01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:22.000
+So whereas, initially, I blamed the Chinese for which I was called by some people,
+
+01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:23.000
+a racist.
+
+01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:24.000
+I don't know how...
+
+01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:26.000
+When you actually point out that something comes from somewhere, you're a racist with one thing of that.
+
+01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:29.000
+But when I trace everything back, if somebody has to take the rack for this,
+
+01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:30.000
+it has to be Fauci.
+
+01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:32.000
+To me, he is the one single person guilty.
+
+01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:35.000
+He's just used his excessive outrageous power.
+
+01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:37.000
+And I'm a lot of watchers to...
+
+01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:38.000
+I have no responsibility...
+
+01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:39.000
+I have no responsibility...
+
+01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:40.000
+...to have the current pandemic.
+
+01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:43.000
+...because it'd be Kirsten Anderson, who wrote...
+
+01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:46.000
+I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.
+
+01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:49.000
+That ludicrous paper for him, that he got the narrow nature.
+
+01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:54.000
+Immediately got an nearly $9 million grant to carry on his work in his institute,
+
+01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:59.000
+which did not go out to peer review in all the normal sentences, according to my sources.
+
+01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:01.000
+And I'll just have another bizarre temporal correlation, isn't it?
+
+01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:02.000
+And the same happened with Dazep.
+
+01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:03.000
+The same happened with Dazep.
+
+01:32:03.000 --> 01:32:05.000
+They wrote a letter to the Lancet saying,
+
+01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:06.000
+this is absolutely ludicrous.
+
+01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:09.000
+Anything that suggests it came out of China land is...
+
+01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:11.000
+We use the word it was racist and demean it.
+
+01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:13.000
+God, everything else, 26 people signed it.
+
+01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:14.000
+No conflict of interest.
+
+01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:19.000
+The sector declared 25 or 26 of those people were all funded directly or indirectly by that charity.
+
+01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:22.000
+And they now, a lot of them have come out and they want to withdraw it.
+
+01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:23.000
+They realise they've been...
+
+01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:25.000
+Why that paper has not been withdrawn, I have no idea.
+
+01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:27.000
+If you told me it had been withdrawn, I would have expected it.
+
+01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:28.000
+But the fact it's still not.
+
+01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:30.000
+It's still arguably amongst themselves.
+
+01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:31.000
+Unbelievable.
+
+01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:34.000
+So, is existential means existence?
+
+01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:38.000
+Is a future lovely, potentially an existential threat to humanity?
+
+01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:39.000
+Yes, I think it is.
+
+01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:41.000
+And I think all this work should be stopped wherever anybody says.
+
+01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:44.000
+Because it really does get rather circular all this.
+
+01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:45.000
+They say we have to do this.
+
+01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:49.000
+So we have the tools and understanding to make drugs and vaccines for the next pandemic,
+
+01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:50.000
+which will surely arise.
+
+01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:55.000
+So now, no, we have not had the COVID pandemic, had they not been doing this research,
+
+01:32:55.000 --> 01:33:00.000
+and also doing it so badly and sloppily and incompetently under an auspices
+
+01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:03.000
+of things like the WHO where the most unfit people to have done this.
+
+01:33:03.000 --> 01:33:04.000
+And they should be removed.
+
+01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:06.000
+I think the WHO should be defunded.
+
+01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:07.000
+I really do.
+
+01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:08.000
+It's so corrupt.
+
+01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:09.000
+So is Garvey.
+
+01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:10.000
+It's so seppy.
+
+01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:14.000
+All these organizations, which managed to sack hundreds of millions of dollars for the UK government
+
+01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:16.000
+on the grounds we're doing are part protecting the world, the snappy other.
+
+01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:19.000
+With all it's doing is, is handsome corrupt incompetence in my book.
+
+01:33:19.000 --> 01:33:22.000
+So I think this is the Scooby Doo and a nutshell.
+
+01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:25.000
+And they think that it's enticing enough for you to blame.
+
+01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:32.000
+Seppy and the WHO and all these big name people and all these big organizations of corporations.
+
+01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:38.000
+They think you are going to be enticed just like these guys are enticed
+
+01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:45.000
+to blame the profiteers, to blame the arrogant biologists, to blame the arrogant virologists,
+
+01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:49.000
+to blame the bioweapons guys.
+
+01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:55.000
+And I would argue that the fifth generation war that's being waged on you counts on you
+
+01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:58.000
+not seeing any farther than that.
+
+01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:01.000
+It counts on you needing a bad guy.
+
+01:34:01.000 --> 01:34:04.000
+It counts on you needing someone to blame.
+
+01:34:05.000 --> 01:34:09.000
+And it counts on you believing in a virus because it's spread from Hong Kong.
+
+01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:15.000
+Because it was supremely adapted to infecting and destroying human cells after years of being
+
+01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:19.000
+manipulated in a laboratory to do so.
+
+01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:23.000
+Do you think that gain of function is a possibility in the future?
+
+01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:26.000
+I absolutely do, he says.
+
+01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:31.000
+This is the Scooby Doo in a nutshell.
+
+01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:37.000
+Told to you by somebody on the TV narrative side, on the social media narrative side,
+
+01:34:37.000 --> 01:34:40.000
+with a video still on YouTube with not struck.
+
+01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:47.000
+And it won't be struck because this is exactly where they want the TV and social media people
+
+01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:52.000
+to land, right here.
+
+01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:57.000
+And when they land there, the vast majority of our side will come to say,
+
+01:34:57.000 --> 01:35:03.000
+see, basically we told you so.
+
+01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:09.000
+And five years from now, our children will be permanently misled.
+
+01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:11.000
+I think it's a good place to stop here.
+
+01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:16.000
+It's like if I'm out of sync, then what's the point, right?
+
+01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:19.000
+I'm annoyed that I was out of sync.
+
+01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:22.000
+I apologize for being out of sync.
+
+01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:26.000
+I think it's kind of a memory problem, and I've already backed up everything twice,
+
+01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:29.000
+and so it's just a matter of deleting and cleaning that disk.
+
+01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:34.000
+It's not a matter of what is true of the council, but a matter of what is perceived to be true.
+
+01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:39.000
+The big Scooby Doo mystery is still being solved on this one right here.
+
+01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:45.000
+John Campbell and Professor DeGlish would have us believe that coronaviruses have pandemic potential
+
+01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:50.000
+that can be accessed in laboratories and stitched together to make even worse.
+
+01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:54.000
+So they basically have bought into the narrative the illusion of consensus
+
+01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:58.000
+that will end up with our kids surrendering their sovereignty
+
+01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:04.000
+to this global fundamental inversion of human rights to free them to fascism.
+
+01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:10.000
+This illusion of consensus is being perpetuated by Campbell and his guest.
+
+01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:14.000
+I know they're nice guys. I know they've come a long way.
+
+01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:18.000
+But if you come a long way from being a totalitarian fascist creep
+
+01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:24.000
+with no idea of what's going on to kind of sort of understanding some stuff,
+
+01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:30.000
+it's not exactly progress. I'm sorry.
+
+01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:35.000
+But if they're not questioning every single thing they thought right now,
+
+01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:39.000
+after he just said that, well, you know, if they'll do this for the origin of the virus,
+
+01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:42.000
+then why wouldn't what would they do for all this other stuff?
+
+01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:44.000
+Exactly!
+
+01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:56.000
+This illusion of the consensus about what mystery needs to be solved is what we need to break.
+
+01:36:56.000 --> 01:37:04.000
+We've been set up to think differently about immunology and about virology
+
+01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:10.000
+and about biology so that we accept these ridiculous things happened
+
+01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:12.000
+and we couldn't have stopped it.
+
+01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:18.000
+We accepted these ridiculous things happened and we couldn't have done nothing about it
+
+01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:22.000
+because it was an emergency, because it was rushed.
+
+01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:28.000
+This illusion of consensus about a bat cave or natural virus that's now
+
+01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:32.000
+maybe more dangerous than we thought because it was from a laboratory.
+
+01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:37.000
+You don't think that guy's smart enough to explain clones?
+
+01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:42.000
+You don't think that guy's smart enough to know that there might have been a background signal there?
+
+01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:46.000
+You don't think that guy's smart enough to know that the protocols were murder
+
+01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:51.000
+and the transfection is not medicine, but he's not saying it.
+
+01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:55.000
+He's saying that the spike protein was bad.
+
+01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:57.000
+Spike protein caused clotting.
+
+01:37:57.000 --> 01:38:02.000
+Spike protein has 78% of homology with human proteins.
+
+01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:09.000
+So the spike protein itself is causing autoimmunity, not transfection, come on.
+
+01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:15.000
+Come on, it can't be a transfection that they sprayed on us and then sequenced
+
+01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:18.000
+and then claimed spread.
+
+01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:20.000
+Couldn't be that.
+
+01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:23.000
+There's no viruses, they don't do that.
+
+01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:25.000
+There's no measles either.
+
+01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:30.000
+Ladies and gentlemen, they took a conflated background signal with a crappy PCR test
+
+01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:36.000
+and told us lies about a pandemic potential that never existed in the first place.
+
+01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:40.000
+And the pandemic potential that actually showed up at the beginning of the pandemic
+
+01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:45.000
+was nothing more than bad protocols, fear, frustration, confusion and doubt.
+
+01:38:45.000 --> 01:38:48.000
+Transfection is a medicine, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:53.000
+They turned this into a mythology that they planned to govern our children by.
+
+01:38:53.000 --> 01:38:58.000
+A mythology about a novel virus that came and is still going.
+
+01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:02.000
+A novel virus that we can track and all the variants to.
+
+01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:05.000
+But who cares if it has a fear and cleavage site anymore?
+
+01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:12.000
+Hey, Mr. DeGlish, can you tell us when the fear and cleavage site in COVID disappeared?
+
+01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:17.000
+Since the fear and cleavage site is so important, what variants have it still?
+
+01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:23.000
+Has anyone ever said anything about that to you?
+
+01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:30.000
+What variants still have the fear and cleavage site, the special gain of function gift?
+
+01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:37.000
+What variants still have the HIV inserts that are all positive, charged amino acids?
+
+01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:39.000
+Where did they go?
+
+01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:45.000
+How come we're not charting those on the CBS news every night like we did with the deaths
+
+01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:48.000
+on the chart of the globe?
+
+01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:51.000
+Because they're a mythology!
+
+01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:56.000
+Because the only reason why that would matter if it was from a clone.
+
+01:39:56.000 --> 01:40:01.000
+Because if you transfected people with a bunch of clones of a coronavirus that had a nasty spike protein
+
+01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:08.000
+then there would be a lot of that nasty spike protein for a little while in those people.
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+01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:11.000
+And you'd be able to sequence it, you'd probably find the RNA, it'd be all great,
+
+01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:14.000
+but it would be in no danger.
+
+01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:22.000
+There'd be no danger of RNA sweeping the globe because RNA doesn't work like that.
+
+01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:25.000
+But we could trick them into believing that it did.
+
+01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:32.000
+We could fool an entire planet with an infectious clone as long as we deny that clones matter.
+
+01:40:32.000 --> 01:40:37.000
+As long as we can get every virologist to call Jonathan Cui an idiot.
+
+01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:50.000
+The moment that you start talking about clones, and the fact that the only way people can work with RNA viruses
+
+01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:54.000
+is to make clones of them, people stop talking.
+
+01:40:54.000 --> 01:41:01.000
+The moment you bring up recombinant DNA is the way they make chimeric antibodies, they go silent.
+
+01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:09.000
+Recombinant DNA is the only thing they got.
+
+01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:16.000
+And that's why they're lying to our children because they want our children to be enslaved by this mythology,
+
+01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:25.000
+to surrender to this mythology so that they don't even see the cage that they're trapped by.
+
+01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:30.000
+Ladies and gentlemen, you can find me at giggleonbiological.com.
+
+01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:35.000
+You can become a supporter if you scroll down.
+
+01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:43.000
+You can also join us here at giggleon.biow, where I'm sometimes announcing things, but I'm still not very good at it
+
+01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:48.000
+because I do have a day job and I'm actually trying to do it well.
+
+01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:56.000
+You can also support my work here with a one-time donation if you feel that need, but I would rather have you share my screen far and wide
+
+01:41:56.000 --> 01:42:01.000
+because right now I don't seem to be gaining any views at all.
+
+01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:06.000
+And yeah, intramuscular injection of any combination of substances
+
+01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:11.000
+with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb, and you can say that very shortly for the current.
+
+01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:14.000
+My saying transfection is not immunization.
+
+01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:19.000
+Please stop all transfections in humans. They are trying to eliminate the control group.
+
+01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:22.000
+By any means necessary.
+
+01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:25.000
+Please make sure you stop by broken science initiative.
+
+01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:33.000
+You can see my friend Matt Briggs has done in his own essay about the same paper that
+
+01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:37.000
+Jenny Rancord just came on my show to talk about yesterday,
+
+01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:41.000
+another wonderful lampooning of that paper.
+
+01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:46.000
+This has been Giga Home Biological, High Resistance Low Noise Information Brief brought to you by Biologist.
+
+01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:49.000
+Thanks for joining me. I'll see you tomorrow.
+
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+Okay, we're going to try something here.
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+00:05.880 --> 00:10.560
+I may have figured it out.
+
+00:10.560 --> 00:13.720
+Something may have happened with the monitor.
+
+00:13.720 --> 00:14.720
+How are we looking?
+
+00:14.720 --> 00:15.720
+Is that okay?
+
+00:15.720 --> 00:17.360
+Talk to me, Goose.
+
+00:17.360 --> 00:18.360
+Yeah?
+
+00:18.360 --> 00:20.720
+Did we figure it out?
+
+00:20.720 --> 00:23.320
+Oh, bless your heart.
+
+00:23.320 --> 00:24.880
+Thank you, sir.
+
+00:24.880 --> 00:25.880
+All right.
+
+00:26.880 --> 00:30.760
+I'm just going to run in a quick introduction here then.
+
+00:30.760 --> 00:32.880
+That's great.
+
+00:32.880 --> 00:50.880
+What do you mean no video?
+
+00:50.880 --> 01:04.880
+The family says it's perfect.
+
+01:04.880 --> 01:08.960
+I know this start, no one's kind of lame, but I like the video to be okay for the next
+
+01:08.960 --> 01:12.000
+person that falls on and I'll do a real quick intro, I promise.
+
+01:20.880 --> 01:26.880
+Still looking good?
+
+01:26.880 --> 01:30.880
+Still looking good?
+
+01:30.880 --> 01:33.440
+All right.
+
+01:33.440 --> 01:35.240
+Sweet.
+
+01:35.240 --> 01:37.440
+I figured it out.
+
+01:37.440 --> 01:44.880
+I think that might have been a problem for longer than all of you people have been telling
+
+01:44.880 --> 01:45.880
+me.
+
+01:45.880 --> 01:47.880
+What kind of chumps are you?
+
+01:47.880 --> 01:51.120
+You were telling me that it was out of sync.
+
+01:51.120 --> 01:54.760
+You should have been telling me a long time ago, I think.
+
+01:54.760 --> 01:55.760
+Darn it.
+
+01:55.760 --> 02:02.800
+Maybe not a long time ago, but a little while ago I changed settings on my big monitor and
+
+02:02.800 --> 02:10.840
+I didn't realize that that was challenging OBS to render it at a greater resolution on
+
+02:10.840 --> 02:11.840
+my screen.
+
+02:11.840 --> 02:22.560
+So that was actually taxing OBS just for this, just for me to see it, which is really funny.
+
+02:22.560 --> 02:24.960
+I totally built.
+
+02:24.960 --> 02:27.960
+So that was what it was.
+
+02:27.960 --> 02:28.960
+Zoinks.
+
+02:28.960 --> 02:34.120
+I used to be able to do that before my voice was destroying my mic.
+
+02:34.120 --> 02:40.120
+Well, thanks for coming back.
+
+02:40.120 --> 02:47.840
+Rodney Mullen recently had some surgery and is recovering and feeling like a million dollars
+
+02:47.840 --> 02:52.520
+and has had less pain in his legs and hips than he's had in years.
+
+02:52.520 --> 02:56.080
+I don't know if I'm allowed to tell you that, but I'm telling you anyway.
+
+02:56.080 --> 02:59.000
+I love that man.
+
+02:59.000 --> 03:05.120
+Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to GIGO and biological.
+
+03:05.120 --> 03:10.480
+This is take three.
+
+03:10.480 --> 03:15.840
+Take three on the 12th of October, 2023.
+
+03:15.840 --> 03:20.960
+And yeah, I do sound different from JC on a bike because my voice is destroyed.
+
+03:20.960 --> 03:26.240
+I don't have the voice that I had when I was JC on a bike.
+
+03:26.240 --> 03:29.040
+It was deeper and louder and more powerful.
+
+03:29.040 --> 03:34.080
+I could blow the windows out of a car and now I can barely talk.
+
+03:34.080 --> 03:40.240
+I'm pretty sure it happened after I shook hands with Andrew Huff, but I don't know.
+
+03:40.240 --> 03:43.480
+I'm not going to blame it on anybody.
+
+03:43.480 --> 03:50.760
+But they are misleading the young.
+
+03:50.760 --> 03:55.760
+It was all that shouting in the corridors, perhaps indeed.
+
+03:56.760 --> 03:58.560
+Learn your history, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+03:58.560 --> 04:05.400
+Learn your biology is really important because the bricks at the back of the theater are
+
+04:05.400 --> 04:16.360
+visible and these things are true and I'm just going to flip through these real quick
+
+04:16.360 --> 04:20.640
+because, you know, I made a mistake a couple of times with this setup.
+
+04:20.640 --> 04:25.200
+It takes a while to learn how to do all this stuff.
+
+04:25.200 --> 04:32.480
+I don't want to, you know, toot anybody's horn for streaming.
+
+04:32.480 --> 04:38.600
+But you know, there's a little bit of finesse, there's a little bit of power point, there's
+
+04:38.600 --> 04:41.440
+a little bit of this, there's a little bit of that.
+
+04:41.440 --> 04:47.320
+It's an investment in time and energy that not everybody tends to put in.
+
+04:47.320 --> 04:50.360
+And I had it a little bit here and a little bit there.
+
+04:50.360 --> 04:54.400
+Thanks to my friend Hunter, I've been able to get a bunch of stuff out of the garbage
+
+04:54.400 --> 04:59.840
+can and that has really led to me having a pretty decent setup, but it acts funny
+
+04:59.840 --> 05:05.400
+because these items are not supposed to sing together the way they're singing together.
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+05:05.400 --> 05:10.840
+And I keep making little changes that make it necessary to for me to relearn the thing
+
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+a little bit.
+
+05:11.840 --> 05:20.240
+But don't take the bait on social media and on TV, the bait is, of course, this enticing
+
+05:20.240 --> 05:22.760
+mystery that we need to solve.
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+05:22.800 --> 05:32.480
+And it is really, it is something that we have been lured into by a very elaborate theater.
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+05:32.480 --> 05:39.320
+And so it is this elaborate theater that once we have identified it, once you see the bricks
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+at the back of the theater, it's our job to take apart the scenery and try to argue for
+
+05:45.400 --> 05:46.400
+a refund, right?
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+05:46.400 --> 05:52.200
+I mean, that's really where we should be thinking we are.
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+05:52.200 --> 06:03.520
+And I started the previous two untimed streams with this idea that there were influencers
+
+06:03.520 --> 06:14.080
+on both sides of the narrative that were courting and coercing and cajoling people to believe
+
+06:14.080 --> 06:20.360
+what they wanted them to believe, not just on our side, not just the people that I've
+
+06:20.400 --> 06:22.800
+been talking about over here.
+
+06:22.800 --> 06:28.280
+But there are also people on the Fauci side who got into arguments.
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+06:28.280 --> 06:34.280
+And on the Fauci side with with with Z dog that got into arguments about who's right
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+06:34.280 --> 06:37.920
+and who's wrong and who's extreme and who isn't.
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+And those people, as they argued, agreed that those people over there who are arguing are
+
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+really crazy.
+
+06:45.800 --> 06:50.120
+And so when I show this illusion of consensus about gain of function viruses and about a
+
+06:50.120 --> 06:56.800
+lab leak, I'm really only showing you half of the, of the, in a cartoon, it would be
+
+06:56.800 --> 07:02.840
+this cloud of smoke and dust with like spiraling things going around it.
+
+07:02.840 --> 07:07.560
+It's this argument over here and then an argument over here and the agreement that you were
+
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+in the right argument there in the wrong argument.
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+07:11.800 --> 07:17.440
+So it's much more enticing than even just natural virus or lab leak, but it's the argument
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+that occurred over here that was different than the argument that occurred over on our
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+side.
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+And parts of this illusion have been revealed as we've, we've tried to push through the
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+weeds here.
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+And you know, it, it, it happens that we've made very good friends with Denny Rancour
+
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+and that he's doing a really good job of dispelling this mythology of a spreading viral
+
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+pathogen.
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+And we've had him on the show a couple times and more recently he was actually on Kim
+
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+Iverson's show.
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+And so I just wanted to play this again.
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+I know if you've seen it, I apologize, I won't play much.
+
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+It's only like four minutes.
+
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+But it's really important to get it on here because Kim really does push back and actually
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+does try to bait him about, you know, is there a virus or not and to get him to defend
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+that position.
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+And almost like an a keto master like Steven Segal, Kim Iverson is just on the mat.
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+You don't even really know how it happened.
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+And I am making a little joke there.
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+Of course, I don't think Steven Segal and his I keto are, I don't know what they are.
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+But anyway, I just started throwing it in there.
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+I want to debate about that.
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+I love a keto.
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+Were there areas that had massive spikes of the virus the same as let's say Northern
+
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+Italy or New York, but who did not use any of those treatment protocols, but stuck with
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+the tried and true of how you deal with the respiratory illness.
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+08:48.880 --> 08:56.840
+And yeah, okay, so that spike that initial spike you caused it due to the virus.
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+08:56.840 --> 08:59.600
+You understand I'm arguing it's not due to a virus at all.
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+It's due to the what with the measures that were applied.
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+That's what killed people.
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+What I'm saying though is that but but we did see a spot.
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+I mean, are you I guess first we have to ask, do you believe that COVID-19 as a virus exists
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+at all that SARS-CoV-2 exists?
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+I think that question is irrelevant.
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+What I'm trying to say is all the data that is a firm hard all-cause mortality data is
+
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+inconsistent with the idea of a particularly virulent at the gym that spreads.
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+09:31.120 --> 09:33.200
+It's inconsistent with that.
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+09:33.200 --> 09:38.080
+So you can believe that there's a whole spectrum of viruses and bacteria, whatever
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+you want, but there was nothing special or new in terms of these pathogens that did anything
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+that spreads that the data is inconsistent with that.
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+So you don't have to get into the question of whether or not viruses exist and all these
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+exotic things.
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+09:53.400 --> 09:54.640
+I don't even want to touch that.
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+I'm just saying my view of the data is that this is not a spreading pathogen period.
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+It's inconsistent with that.
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+It's disproved by the data.
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+10:06.960 --> 10:12.800
+But you asked the question, well, were there places where they weren't applying these these
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+these very horrendous protocols and that still had spikes?
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+Well, our data we've done studies about this and for example, Germany did not apply these
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+fancy protocols.
+
+10:23.840 --> 10:28.760
+Germany did business as usual and had zero peak at the beginning of the pandemic.
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+There is no signal there whatsoever in the entire territory of Germany.
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+So when you make a map of Europe and you put colors on for the intensity of that peak,
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+it's red in northern France, for example, around London, around Madrid.
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+There's these horrible red spots and it does not cross the border into Germany whatsoever.
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+Germany stays white on the map, if you like.
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+But I guess what I'm saying is that, you know, as they were tracking the virus itself
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+and the spread of the virus, they were saying then that the answer to that would be, well,
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+because Germany had taken all these measures that they weren't getting the virus into their
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+country yet, that it hadn't spread into Germany.
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+So if it was spreading in Italy, but not in Germany, then of course, Italy would see the
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+spikes in Germany, wouldn't you can wave your hands like that.
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+Okay, first of all, I don't believe that they were they weren't tracking mortality.
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+They may have been tracking something that they call, you know, cases of COVID or whatever
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+with these very suspicious tests that they were using and so on.
+
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+They can do all of that and they can count cases.
+
+11:37.880 --> 11:42.440
+I put all that aside and I look at mortality because it's the only thing that I'm sure
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+of and it's something you can measure and be certain of and all the jurisdictions do it.
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+And when I look at mortality, there is no evidence of any spread.
+
+11:52.680 --> 11:57.880
+There's evidence of bursts of mortality when you start doing something.
+
+11:57.880 --> 12:03.360
+So right right at the beginning, when you started applying these aggressive protocols,
+
+12:03.360 --> 12:08.920
+you had certain hotspots that had peaks, that mortality did not spread.
+
+12:08.920 --> 12:12.280
+It didn't then spread throughout the end.
+
+12:12.280 --> 12:16.680
+So you're saying it doesn't matter if there was a virus or not circulating because you're
+
+12:16.680 --> 12:20.280
+not even looking at that you're looking at deaths and only deaths.
+
+12:20.280 --> 12:25.200
+And when you look at mortality and the deaths in areas, you're not seeing deaths spread
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+12:25.200 --> 12:30.080
+from one region to a next to a next that would indicate that something was spreading around
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+12:30.080 --> 12:31.080
+killing people.
+
+12:31.080 --> 12:32.080
+That's right.
+
+12:32.080 --> 12:35.200
+Now, Kim, in fact, I see the opposite.
+
+12:35.200 --> 12:36.200
+That's what's important.
+
+12:36.200 --> 12:37.280
+I see the opposite.
+
+12:37.280 --> 12:44.720
+I see the US, which has a very large number of very vulnerable people that did die in
+
+12:44.720 --> 12:53.400
+the US, the excess mortality during the COVID period correlates perfectly with the poverty,
+
+12:53.400 --> 12:55.520
+the number of people living in poverty in the state.
+
+12:55.520 --> 13:00.360
+You get this incredible correlation line that goes through the origin of Pearson correlation
+
+13:00.360 --> 13:05.720
+coefficient of 0.86, which is unheard of.
+
+13:05.720 --> 13:09.400
+And so it was poor people who died, and especially in the southern states.
+
+13:09.400 --> 13:14.720
+Now, you cross this thousand kilometers of border between Canada and the US, and there
+
+13:14.720 --> 13:18.520
+were no deaths in Canada in that whole period, virtually none.
+
+13:18.520 --> 13:23.440
+You can hardly detect the excess mortality in Canada compared to the United States.
+
+13:23.440 --> 13:24.440
+That's impossible.
+
+13:24.440 --> 13:26.960
+These are two of the biggest trading partners in the world.
+
+13:26.960 --> 13:29.280
+The highways were open.
+
+13:29.280 --> 13:34.800
+It's impossible that a virus that is said to have been spreading did not want to cross
+
+13:34.800 --> 13:36.200
+the border to Canada.
+
+13:36.200 --> 13:37.200
+Same thing.
+
+13:38.200 --> 13:41.960
+You'll have the Trudeau's of the world and all the Trudeau's supporters saying, well,
+
+13:41.960 --> 13:47.120
+that's because we implemented some serious protocols that prevented people from traveling.
+
+13:47.120 --> 13:48.640
+You couldn't even travel in Canada.
+
+13:48.640 --> 13:53.400
+You guys were in major lockdown, unlike what we were here in the United States.
+
+13:53.400 --> 13:56.200
+Lockdown levels that you guys experienced was much harsher.
+
+13:56.200 --> 14:00.680
+So they would say, I would think that you can always wave your hands and say that kind
+
+14:00.680 --> 14:01.680
+of thing.
+
+14:02.000 --> 14:08.560
+If you believe that it is a pandemic causing virus, you cannot believe that it will refuse
+
+14:08.560 --> 14:10.440
+across a border like that.
+
+14:10.440 --> 14:11.440
+That's just incredible.
+
+14:11.440 --> 14:15.000
+There's no signs that makes any sense if you want to believe that.
+
+14:15.000 --> 14:21.480
+But also, in one of our studies, which I co-authored, the lead author was John Johnson from Harvard
+
+14:21.480 --> 14:26.520
+University, and we authored a paper where we looked at states in the United States and
+
+14:26.520 --> 14:30.720
+we compared neighboring states that share a border, one that locked down and the other
+
+14:30.720 --> 14:32.200
+didn't.
+
+14:32.200 --> 14:34.080
+And they were comparable otherwise.
+
+14:34.080 --> 14:39.760
+We found 12 pairs of states like that that you could directly compare, and we found unambiguously
+
+14:39.760 --> 14:45.040
+that the lockdowns states have these large excess mortalities, which were not present
+
+14:45.040 --> 14:50.400
+in the non-lockdown neighbor that shared a border with it, and that was republished.
+
+14:51.400 --> 14:56.960
+So that makes sense to me, except how do you explain that my guess is the hospitals were
+
+14:56.960 --> 14:58.720
+not overwhelmed in Canada, right?
+
+14:58.720 --> 15:05.120
+So it's like, the people still have to show up, I mean, they don't magically, they can't
+
+15:05.120 --> 15:07.960
+magically use a ventilator, right?
+
+15:07.960 --> 15:13.240
+Canada has large cities and large hospitals, and they were claiming the same kinds of problems
+
+15:13.240 --> 15:18.400
+of overwork and over this and over that in Canada as anywhere, any other major city in
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+15:18.400 --> 15:19.400
+the world.
+
+15:20.400 --> 15:25.240
+So, just because it's a big country and a relatively small population doesn't mean
+
+15:25.240 --> 15:29.280
+still, but the population is concentrated in cities, right?
+
+15:29.280 --> 15:34.440
+So there's no way to explain.
+
+15:34.440 --> 15:37.240
+He goes on there to explain further, you can find that.
+
+15:37.240 --> 15:45.080
+Maybe I should just drop this quickly in the chatty chat here for you, or did somebody
+
+15:45.080 --> 15:46.080
+already do that?
+
+15:46.080 --> 15:55.600
+I didn't see anybody had done that yet, so let me see if I can do that.
+
+15:55.600 --> 16:03.040
+There you go, that's the rumble we just watched.
+
+16:03.040 --> 16:06.760
+So another thing happened that I thought was really cool, yesterday you will recall that
+
+16:06.760 --> 16:17.560
+I did a second video of Campbell and Gleesh that was talking more about the immunology,
+
+16:17.560 --> 16:22.440
+but more about the origins of the virus and how they were locked dead Scooby-Doo mystery
+
+16:22.440 --> 16:29.920
+100% dead on balls accurate, to the point where actually he admitted the other guest
+
+16:29.920 --> 16:36.320
+of Campbell that he had been on board with Dr. Quay for a very long time early on.
+
+16:36.320 --> 16:46.520
+And I can't express adequately how it is that I am skeptical of everybody who zeroed
+
+16:46.520 --> 16:52.040
+in on a fear and cleavage site in February or even January of 2020.
+
+16:52.040 --> 16:54.200
+It's just absurd.
+
+16:54.200 --> 17:02.800
+And what I also said in that video yesterday was that there were a few parts of that video
+
+17:02.800 --> 17:12.520
+that these two people would cue in on and not even 24 hours later, Dan Wilson releases
+
+17:12.520 --> 17:17.400
+a video, what went wrong with John Campbell with none other than Susan Oliver.
+
+17:17.400 --> 17:22.920
+Now, you can actually see a conspiracy here because it's almost impossible for him to
+
+17:22.920 --> 17:26.400
+have produced this yesterday.
+
+17:26.400 --> 17:33.320
+I guess he could have, but it's almost like we communicated like he it's crazy and I just
+
+17:33.320 --> 17:37.000
+want to play a little bit of Susan Oliver's story.
+
+17:37.000 --> 17:44.480
+I don't know how much we can take, but it's really instructive that all of these people
+
+17:44.480 --> 17:49.440
+basically have the same story.
+
+17:49.440 --> 17:54.520
+They wandered into biology with no good idea of what they were going to do.
+
+17:54.520 --> 18:00.080
+They wandered into biology with the idea of making money and they learned very quickly
+
+18:00.080 --> 18:06.000
+that you can't make money as a postdoc and so neither of them did a postdoc.
+
+18:06.000 --> 18:12.040
+And they went on to work in some industry and Susan Oliver will at the end of this video
+
+18:12.040 --> 18:17.880
+even admit that she saved up so much money during her time and industry that she's able
+
+18:17.880 --> 18:22.120
+to sell fund her YouTube escapades.
+
+18:22.120 --> 18:28.000
+I think it's instructive to listen to this because again, these two are two that might
+
+18:28.000 --> 18:33.880
+have a disagreement about Ibermectin and yet because they agree that everybody should be
+
+18:33.880 --> 18:38.720
+vaccinated and then Australia should have locked down and that's why they saved so many lives
+
+18:38.720 --> 18:40.880
+and yada yada yada.
+
+18:40.880 --> 18:45.160
+They can disagree about something in order to make it seem as though there's a healthy
+
+18:45.160 --> 18:49.080
+debate going on even on YouTube.
+
+18:49.080 --> 18:50.080
+Even carefully.
+
+18:50.080 --> 18:57.640
+The internet was or on YouTube I should say was this week in virology, this week in virology
+
+18:57.640 --> 19:01.640
+and I'd actually got that via Facebook and so it started.
+
+19:01.640 --> 19:06.920
+So she's saying that the first people that she found during the pandemic on YouTube was
+
+19:06.920 --> 19:12.720
+this week in virology which is already sketchy and then she's going to go on to say how she
+
+19:12.720 --> 19:18.120
+got mixed up with John Campbell and then eventually decided to make her own YouTube channel.
+
+19:18.120 --> 19:19.960
+It's really compelling.
+
+19:19.960 --> 19:23.120
+I subscribed to that and started watching it and prior to that I'd never watched YouTube
+
+19:23.120 --> 19:27.880
+at all and then slowly YouTube started recommending other channels.
+
+19:27.880 --> 19:33.240
+One of them of course was yours which I also started watching but the other one was Dr.
+
+19:33.240 --> 19:39.640
+John Campbell and at the time he was being quite reasonable.
+
+19:39.640 --> 19:43.400
+He was pretty much just presenting stats from around the world.
+
+19:43.400 --> 19:48.800
+It wasn't particularly technical but it was a fairly good way to keep up to date with
+
+19:48.800 --> 19:49.800
+exactly what was happening.
+
+19:49.800 --> 19:55.320
+So I started watching his channel and he said something about Australia and he just got
+
+19:55.320 --> 19:56.320
+it completely wrong.
+
+19:56.320 --> 20:00.760
+It wasn't intentional, he just didn't understand basically.
+
+20:00.760 --> 20:05.680
+So I thought why don't I just send him a little email and let him know what he got wrong.
+
+20:05.680 --> 20:10.600
+So I sent him an email explaining that what he said wasn't actually correct.
+
+20:10.600 --> 20:15.000
+And sort of misinterpreted what our chief medical officer had said and I said no he
+
+20:15.000 --> 20:17.800
+didn't actually mean this, explain what he meant.
+
+20:17.800 --> 20:25.240
+And then at the time Dr. Campbell was also, he'd been sort of showing us a photo of people
+
+20:25.240 --> 20:29.000
+wearing masks at the end of his video site that they sent him.
+
+20:29.000 --> 20:33.200
+So I'd also sent him a photo of me in the lab, I had a pig lab coat on and I was wearing
+
+20:33.200 --> 20:37.200
+a pig mask and I said look I'm not sure if you're still showing photos of people but
+
+20:37.200 --> 20:39.080
+if you are he's one of me.
+
+20:39.080 --> 20:45.000
+So anyway the next day he did correct himself, he did show the photo of me in the mask.
+
+20:45.000 --> 20:49.960
+So I don't know why it's breaking up, maybe the recording didn't go very well but here
+
+20:49.960 --> 20:57.800
+you see her tell the story that she actually became interested in being an internet personality
+
+20:57.800 --> 21:05.480
+upon interacting with John Campbell and sending him a picture of her with a mask on so that
+
+21:05.480 --> 21:08.640
+he could use it in his stream.
+
+21:08.640 --> 21:12.000
+Here you're going to find that he made some mistakes and then she realized that he was
+
+21:12.000 --> 21:19.360
+an idiot but at first it was kind of her idol, she was excited and here at the end maybe
+
+21:19.360 --> 21:24.240
+if it's not too horrible we can hear the end of this video.
+
+21:24.240 --> 21:31.840
+Many many videos have been removed by YouTube, many men were actually debunking it so I thought
+
+21:31.840 --> 21:37.440
+this time I'll because I think I sort of think it was something like calm, the initial title
+
+21:37.440 --> 21:42.800
+was something like effective being monkey kidney cells or something so I think maybe
+
+21:42.800 --> 21:47.280
+they probably read the title and said oh she's saying it's effective without actually realizing
+
+21:47.280 --> 21:51.920
+this is her first YouTube video I got pulled from YouTube and I did quite a few more and they
+
+21:51.920 --> 21:57.920
+all stayed up and here we are although obviously during that time many many videos have been
+
+21:57.920 --> 21:59.760
+removed by YouTube.
+
+21:59.760 --> 22:03.920
+So what a weird story right many many videos have been removed from YouTube, her first
+
+22:03.920 --> 22:08.480
+YouTube video which is about Ibermectin was removed and then she did many videos that
+
+22:08.480 --> 22:13.840
+didn't get removed so she kept doing it but in the meantime many many videos got removed.
+
+22:14.720 --> 22:19.360
+It's such a weird story that it almost sounds like a lie.
+
+22:20.480 --> 22:25.200
+So I thought this time I'll because I think I sort of think it was something like calm,
+
+22:25.840 --> 22:31.440
+the initial title was something like effective being monkey kidney cells or something so I
+
+22:31.440 --> 22:36.000
+think maybe they probably read the title and said oh she's saying it's effective without actually
+
+22:36.000 --> 22:40.480
+realizing what else what I was doing so the next one stayed up and I did quite a few more
+
+22:40.480 --> 22:46.960
+and they all stayed up and here we are although obviously during that time many many videos have
+
+22:46.960 --> 22:54.400
+been removed by YouTube. Many many appeals have been rejected but luckily the...
+
+22:54.400 --> 23:02.720
+Do you see it? It's this illusion that even she has suffered from the censorship even he has
+
+23:02.720 --> 23:08.240
+suffered from the censorship. It's not like the censorship was just applied to one side.
+
+23:08.240 --> 23:16.320
+We these people also got censored because they're part of this healthy debate and the evidence for
+
+23:16.320 --> 23:25.680
+it is their censorship. Don't you see? It's the same evidence that we have. It's the same evidence
+
+23:25.680 --> 23:32.720
+that we have that Robert Malone is obviously correct because of his censorship. The reason why
+
+23:32.720 --> 23:40.320
+Steve Kirsch is obviously correct is because he gets censored and labeled as the biggest misinformation
+
+23:40.320 --> 23:49.280
+spreader on the internet. Do you see it? They're all playing the same cards and it doesn't matter
+
+23:49.280 --> 23:55.600
+whether they're playing to the MSNBC crowd or the Fox News crowd or the Glenn Beck crowd.
+
+23:55.600 --> 24:03.920
+It's the same crowd. You should believe in me because I was censored. You should understand
+
+24:03.920 --> 24:09.280
+that I'm a critical thinker because critical thinking is censored and believe it or not
+
+24:09.280 --> 24:15.120
+the people that watch the view are being fooled by the same narrative as the people who watch
+
+24:15.120 --> 24:23.040
+Tucker Carlson. Censorship points to the answer. Do you see it? It's extraordinary.
+
+24:24.720 --> 24:29.520
+Such a media team on Twitter seemed to be reasonably booked now at getting them reinstated and they
+
+24:29.520 --> 24:34.720
+did eventually even reinstate the whole other marketing video that was my best video so that's
+
+24:34.720 --> 24:42.720
+now back after all this and so that's a rather long story to as to how I did it and I wanted to
+
+24:42.720 --> 24:49.360
+why I ended up not getting another job when Australia reopened again was I realized how much I love
+
+24:49.360 --> 24:57.040
+not working. That is true to be fair I was also censored but I believe the trick is to see what
+
+24:57.040 --> 25:03.840
+was censored because YouTube never ever ever and still hasn't censored any of my stuff.
+
+25:05.520 --> 25:10.640
+We're gone the bike. All the stuff about gain of function on the bike all the stuff about a
+
+25:10.640 --> 25:16.960
+lab leak on the bike it's still there. Never once did I get a strike on that stuff. What I got a
+
+25:16.960 --> 25:22.720
+strike on was when I started teaching immunology in my backyard what I got a strike on is when I
+
+25:22.720 --> 25:28.400
+started walking through the park here in Pittsburgh talking about the New World Order
+
+25:28.560 --> 25:38.480
+but definitely when I started talking about the biology on my back in my backyard on my table
+
+25:39.680 --> 25:44.080
+that that's when I got censored and I started taking a lot of things down because I wasn't
+
+25:44.080 --> 25:49.280
+sure what was going to get my next strike and if you get three you're done and that's why I
+
+25:49.280 --> 25:56.400
+pretty much have left JC on a bike the channel alone it's the only evidence I've got of where I
+
+25:56.480 --> 26:06.960
+was in March or February of 2020 so yeah you're right but I was being censored once I started
+
+26:06.960 --> 26:13.120
+speaking out about certain things and then I sort was led to believe that that censorship
+
+26:13.120 --> 26:18.640
+might be because I was speaking out about a lab leak but I kind of knew in my gut it was because
+
+26:18.640 --> 26:25.520
+I was speaking out about the the irrelevance of a lab leak and the fact that immunology says
+
+26:25.600 --> 26:29.680
+that we're going to be fine because RNA viruses are RNA viruses let's listen to her finish because
+
+26:29.680 --> 26:36.400
+it's really comical I just love the fact that I no longer set my alarm in the morning I do actually
+
+26:36.400 --> 26:41.280
+have it said it's seven thirty as I could fail say so that I don't just waste too much time in
+
+26:41.280 --> 26:46.160
+Ben but I used to get up when I was working like about ten to six every morning and I was away
+
+26:48.160 --> 26:54.480
+and so I'm really loving the fact that I just don't have to do that anymore and so yes I thought
+
+26:54.480 --> 27:00.320
+I don't actually I sort of when when I was working I was fairly smart we're investing my
+
+27:00.320 --> 27:04.720
+money and everything so which is obviously why I could afford to go back and get a PhD because
+
+27:04.720 --> 27:10.320
+as you know you don't want to get paid a lot of money when you're doing a PhD so I didn't need
+
+27:10.320 --> 27:16.000
+to work for money like even so the last three years when I was on the contract everything I
+
+27:16.000 --> 27:22.800
+learned is in the back I didn't spend any of it so I figured I don't actually need the money so
+
+27:22.800 --> 27:29.040
+I'm really enjoying not working so I'm not gonna work anymore that's totally understandable and
+
+27:29.040 --> 27:36.880
+that's all great I mean so so she's not working anymore she's just uh just making sure that they
+
+27:37.200 --> 27:40.240
+stay on narrative right that's what she does
+
+27:53.120 --> 28:02.560
+we're gonna go um we're gonna go into the archives of jc on a bike and we're gonna open up a video
+
+28:02.560 --> 28:12.000
+that I put on private in march of 2020 and we're gonna watch where I was this is taxi in case you
+
+28:12.000 --> 28:27.920
+care
+
+28:32.240 --> 28:37.040
+now you guys are all talking about the taxi song so I got to let it play out
+
+28:42.880 --> 28:52.800
+so let's bring this window up over here and this window and we'll go to
+
+28:54.400 --> 29:00.560
+I'll just float over here quick bring this up I don't know what I'm gonna reveal if I do that but
+
+29:00.560 --> 29:08.880
+I'm gonna do it anyway and we'll go over here and we'll go to youtube studio and we'll go to content
+
+29:09.840 --> 29:16.640
+and we'll go down here and we're gonna look for jc in the woods episode one
+
+29:24.880 --> 29:32.240
+now this is not going to be a typical show um because jc on jc in the woods episode one is not
+
+29:32.240 --> 29:38.800
+about biology but it's just you know where was I what was I doing besides this and this is
+
+29:40.000 --> 29:46.240
+what day is this I believe this is march let's just look at this on youtube here
+
+29:48.160 --> 29:50.080
+I believe this is
+
+29:55.920 --> 30:01.520
+march 18th 2020 now the first thing we're gonna do is we're gonna go back to youtube studio
+
+30:02.400 --> 30:09.920
+we're gonna go back to channel content and we're gonna take this youtube jc on a bike and we're
+
+30:09.920 --> 30:23.680
+gonna take it from private and we're gonna make it public public public publish and now we're
+
+30:23.680 --> 30:27.920
+gonna go back over here and we're gonna take this and we're gonna copy it out and we're gonna put
+
+30:27.920 --> 30:35.920
+it down here so that you guys can share it and here we go let's see what this video is all about
+
+30:40.240 --> 30:46.560
+hi this is jc on a bike oh you're fast start a new series holy crap look at how fatty is this
+
+30:46.560 --> 30:51.040
+series is going to be a storytelling series it's a little bit of american history and a little bit
+
+30:51.040 --> 30:56.800
+of modern history and the idea is to try and relay some of the things that I've been studying and
+
+30:56.800 --> 31:02.640
+reading about since I was a teenager a lot of these things in history are called conspiracy
+
+31:02.640 --> 31:07.440
+theories but actually what they are a real history so what does the new world order want
+
+31:07.440 --> 31:12.480
+they want to end nation states they've always wanted to end nation states and bring in one world
+
+31:12.480 --> 31:19.520
+government that one world government has always been spookily attached to the united nations and
+
+31:19.520 --> 31:24.560
+so it wouldn't surprise me if that's in the end the way that we go we will crash the euro a fiat
+
+31:24.560 --> 31:31.440
+currency newly instituted about 20 years ago we will crash the american dollar because that's
+
+31:31.440 --> 31:37.360
+also a fiat currency and then we will have most of the population of the western world asking for
+
+31:37.360 --> 31:42.160
+a solution and that solution will be a one world government with a new one world currency
+
+31:42.960 --> 31:48.400
+let's talk about it in the woods holy crap there's my little boy
+
+31:49.360 --> 31:54.240
+I can almost start crying if I see him that small
+
+31:59.760 --> 32:03.760
+so I want to tell you this story about my roommate the conspiracy theorist
+
+32:05.760 --> 32:11.600
+he told me a story about the new world order the new world order is a cabal of loosely organized
+
+32:11.600 --> 32:17.600
+groups which use the power of fractional reserve banking to control governments around the world
+
+32:18.160 --> 32:22.640
+fractional reserve banking is the idea that a bank only needs to have x amount of money
+
+32:22.640 --> 32:28.800
+in its vaults in order to loan out x times 10 amount of money to people in charge interest
+
+32:28.800 --> 32:32.800
+if you're not familiar with how fractional reserve banking works I suggest you google it
+
+32:32.800 --> 32:38.240
+before you watch the rest of this film simply because the whole story that I'm about to tell
+
+32:38.240 --> 32:43.680
+you is based on the idea that governments around the world are controlled by fractional reserve
+
+32:44.160 --> 32:49.920
+I want to tell you guys a story and it's a story about a roommate of mine that I had in college
+
+32:50.560 --> 32:56.880
+in the early 90s I graduated from high school in 1990 and so I met this guy in Chicago when I
+
+32:56.880 --> 33:04.720
+went to university there and this guy was already a very big conspiracy theorist at 18 years old
+
+33:04.720 --> 33:11.840
+and he got me really into trying to read about alternative interpretations of modern political
+
+33:11.840 --> 33:19.120
+events he got me into JFK into the Oklahoma City bombing he introduced me to Ted Gunderson
+
+33:19.120 --> 33:24.800
+and guys like Mike Rupert who were guys that seemed pretty credible sources that had either
+
+33:24.800 --> 33:31.120
+worked for the FBI or in Mike Rupert's case had worked for the LAPD for a long time and had come
+
+33:31.120 --> 33:37.440
+out as sort of anti-government conspiracy people that were suggesting that law enforcement and
+
+33:37.440 --> 33:45.360
+the FBI and the government were working together to sort of control society by alternative means
+
+33:45.360 --> 33:53.840
+mostly by using fractional reserve banking and other means of control like drugs and sex and this
+
+33:53.840 --> 34:00.000
+kind of thing to control Congress and to control the government where this story begins is with
+
+34:00.000 --> 34:06.160
+things like the Bilderberg group and the Bohemian Grove these kinds of conspiracy theories that
+
+34:06.160 --> 34:11.440
+revolved around a pyramid of groups that a lot of times ended with the Illuminati at the top
+
+34:11.440 --> 34:17.840
+these groups the council on foreign relations these the trilateral commission these groups exist
+
+34:17.840 --> 34:25.120
+and they exist in some sort of organizational structure which has for a long time been documented
+
+34:25.120 --> 34:29.520
+by a number of different people in a number of different books and these have always been labeled
+
+34:29.520 --> 34:34.480
+as kind of crazy but the interesting thing is and through all of these conspiracy theories
+
+34:34.560 --> 34:41.120
+it's a cabal of people that are controlling the left and the right and so all the conspiracy
+
+34:41.120 --> 34:46.560
+theories that I knew when I was younger and including the one that this roommate of mine told me about
+
+34:46.560 --> 34:52.240
+were conspiracy theories that involved a group of people controlling the left and the right
+
+34:52.240 --> 34:57.360
+and so conspiracy theorists were outside of the dichotomy that was the functioning
+
+34:57.360 --> 35:02.480
+you know United States government theater that we all are sort of bamboozled by at the moment
+
+35:05.120 --> 35:12.640
+how would these things get me thinking about you know what would my old roommate have said
+
+35:12.640 --> 35:18.560
+what's going on right now if he were experiencing the coronavirus quarantine
+
+35:22.960 --> 35:28.320
+and I think it has to come back to the NWO what is the new world order what was the new world order
+
+35:28.880 --> 35:34.960
+and by the new world order we're talking about the thing that George H.W. Bush spoke about in
+
+35:34.960 --> 35:39.360
+front of the United Nations way back when it might have been 1996 already
+
+35:47.840 --> 35:53.600
+and as we think about this stuff you really need to remember your history if you don't remember
+
+35:53.680 --> 35:58.480
+your history then none of this stuff will make sense but if you remember your history
+
+35:59.440 --> 36:03.680
+and you go back piece by piece this stuff just falls together and the most
+
+36:03.680 --> 36:09.520
+parsimonious explanation is that the theater is still in business and it's the same theater
+
+36:10.240 --> 36:30.240
+now you can go back 20 or 40 years and find books which talk about the step-by-step process
+
+36:30.240 --> 36:35.040
+by which they were going to introduce the new world order and it started a long time ago
+
+36:35.600 --> 36:39.760
+with putting the dollar as a fiat currency rather than having it tied to gold
+
+36:41.600 --> 36:46.560
+one of the parts of this story that's really interesting is that for a long time people have
+
+36:46.560 --> 36:51.920
+claimed that one of the reasons why Kennedy was shot was because he was trying to put the dollar
+
+36:51.920 --> 36:56.080
+back on a silver standard and they didn't want that
+
+37:04.800 --> 37:09.440
+anyway the point is is that back in the 90s they were telling all kinds of stories about how
+
+37:09.440 --> 37:15.520
+this cabal of rich people connected people were controlling governments using a combination of
+
+37:15.520 --> 37:23.280
+pedophilia sex drugs and money and that through bribery and blackmail most of the
+
+37:23.280 --> 37:29.360
+US congress was controlled this was the conspiracy theory that was going around in the 1990s
+
+37:29.360 --> 37:35.760
+and this was tied together with the Oklahoma City bombing as being largely staged and later on
+
+37:35.760 --> 37:42.560
+has 9-11 being largely staged number of people don't know some of those details about 9-11 that
+
+37:42.560 --> 37:48.000
+still strike us all as odd to this day because we don't talk about them anymore there's no footage
+
+37:48.000 --> 37:52.240
+of the plane that hit the Pentagon there's no evidence that a plane did hit the Pentagon because
+
+37:52.240 --> 37:57.280
+there were no seats or no engines removed from the crash even though these are things that usually
+
+37:57.280 --> 38:02.640
+don't get destroyed when a plane hits the ground and furthermore there was this building 7 problem
+
+38:02.640 --> 38:06.960
+that no one ever really talks about anymore but building 7 is one of the best examples
+
+38:06.960 --> 38:11.600
+of a part of a story that gets eliminated the moment that it doesn't really jive
+
+38:11.600 --> 38:16.560
+with the intended narrative and building 7 is probably one of the more interesting structural
+
+38:16.560 --> 38:20.320
+failures ever caught on film so if you haven't seen it google it it's really fun
+
+38:21.440 --> 38:25.360
+if you're not really familiar with the 9-11 conspiracy theories i'm not really gonna
+
+38:25.920 --> 38:30.720
+rehash those here but if you want to get started with it you want to look for the plane listen to
+
+38:30.720 --> 38:36.880
+that voice like he's not even trying he's just talking and it comes out like that isn't that
+
+38:36.880 --> 38:44.000
+crazy at the Pentagon and you want to look for what happened with building 7 most of the current
+
+38:44.000 --> 38:49.120
+accounts of 9-11 don't really talk about building 7 anymore and building 7 is the one where really
+
+38:49.120 --> 38:55.280
+the laws of physics are broken if you want to search it specifically look for the size of the
+
+38:55.280 --> 38:59.840
+steel beams that were used in that building and why they were used and what was underneath that
+
+38:59.840 --> 39:06.960
+building and why that building was so strongly built like it or not the effects of 9-11 were
+
+39:06.960 --> 39:13.440
+a very big boon for all of those industries that Eisenhower warned us about all those years ago
+
+39:18.560 --> 39:22.960
+then you say to yourself well jay come on that's not a very scary conspiracy
+
+39:23.760 --> 39:30.320
+that rich people use money to control politicians that's no big deal but it's not just controlling
+
+39:30.320 --> 39:34.960
+politicians the story and the conspiracy theory is that they control governments
+
+39:35.680 --> 39:43.680
+and by governments then they control society societies are the world so global governance
+
+39:43.680 --> 39:50.320
+in this NWO conspiracy model has a group of people not connected to the democrats or the
+
+39:50.320 --> 39:56.640
+republicans or the labor party or the Tories but that work above and beyond these silly divisions
+
+39:56.640 --> 40:03.440
+that we fight about and the thing that is really creepy about this is that the new world order
+
+40:04.320 --> 40:11.680
+as it was codified in the 80s and 90s when i was into this when i was younger the new world order
+
+40:11.680 --> 40:17.440
+wanted a few things already back then i think one of the things that you can really look up
+
+40:17.440 --> 40:23.840
+if you haven't seen it is Aaron Russo's movie if you don't know who Aaron Russo is he's a director
+
+40:23.840 --> 40:29.600
+from the 90s and made a lot of movies he directed trading places with Eddie Murphy friends with
+
+40:29.600 --> 40:39.600
+one of the Rockefellers and the Rockefellers boy told him the plan and that plan is to chip us all
+
+40:39.600 --> 40:45.840
+to get rid of cash and to have us have a chip under our skin that is our identification chip
+
+40:46.400 --> 40:52.000
+it also has our money on it with the idea that if they wanted to make us drop out of society if
+
+40:52.000 --> 41:01.360
+they wanted to turn us off they could this is in that movie i can't remember what it's called america
+
+41:02.880 --> 41:08.160
+i'm flashing it up on the freedom to fascism not before i posted america freedom to fascism in
+
+41:08.160 --> 41:16.000
+the case you forgot and coronavirus easily fits into this narrative it's one of the things that
+
+41:16.000 --> 41:24.480
+was suggested already ten years ago as a method of ushering in the last two bits of the new world
+
+41:24.480 --> 41:33.680
+order the last two bits of the new world order are the craziest ones the last two bits are a cashless
+
+41:33.680 --> 41:39.200
+economy and of course they want to get rid of end-to-end encryption that's what the earn
+
+41:39.200 --> 41:45.680
+and act is if you look up the earn it act right now you already find that congress is working on
+
+41:45.680 --> 41:53.440
+it right now to get rid of end-to-end encryption on our phones so that they can read and monitor
+
+41:53.440 --> 41:59.920
+your messages all the time but the other thing that the new world order wants is a cashless economy
+
+42:00.880 --> 42:07.680
+and they want to get rid of nation states whoa wait now you're talking about the united nations
+
+42:07.680 --> 42:12.960
+conspiracy yeah yeah that's the same one the one that we've been talking about for 40 years
+
+42:13.600 --> 42:19.760
+that the united nations was going to be called in to take over america and we would surrender our
+
+42:19.760 --> 42:26.800
+sovereignty to the united nations will imagine a scenario where a global pandemic takes down the
+
+42:26.800 --> 42:35.600
+EU and america all at once and we're begging them for a global government led by the united nations
+
+42:37.680 --> 42:43.840
+they're going to get rid of the elections because of course we can't have an election now it's
+
+42:43.840 --> 42:56.320
+already happening the primaries are being canceled and so i think it started i mean
+
+42:56.800 --> 43:02.080
+what a wonderful exciting time to be in america when this kind of stuff when everything aligns
+
+43:02.080 --> 43:09.600
+so well with the history conspiracy theory that people have been telling for 40 or 80 years
+
+43:11.440 --> 43:17.040
+about how the federal reserve bank is just actually a cabal of privately owned banks
+
+43:18.000 --> 43:28.320
+controlled by privately owned banks and these private owners of our banks control all the world's
+
+43:28.320 --> 43:39.680
+governments with a combination of money drugs and women now they've let out a nice convenient
+
+43:39.680 --> 43:46.960
+bio contagion and they are amplifying the panic of it as much as they possibly can
+
+43:50.560 --> 43:56.400
+and we will be left with china and russia against the rest of the world
+
+43:58.080 --> 44:03.280
+if you don't think it's happening just watch and make sure it doesn't i hope it doesn't happen
+
+44:03.280 --> 44:08.480
+but i'm telling you that's what they want to happen they want to chip you they want to put
+
+44:08.480 --> 44:13.360
+a chip in your hand so that they can scan you whenever they want to scan you and your medical
+
+44:13.360 --> 44:18.800
+records will be there your behavior records will be there they will be able to track where you go
+
+44:18.800 --> 44:24.080
+follow your movements and turn off your money in contact with society whenever they want to
+
+44:24.960 --> 44:31.520
+and that's their plan that's the big scary part of the nwo now if you don't think that's happening
+
+44:31.520 --> 44:36.640
+then you don't have to worry about the coronavirus being a hoax it's probably just a virus and we
+
+44:36.720 --> 44:45.680
+need to be terrified but what if it's not what if this is a plan what if this is the final
+
+44:45.680 --> 44:53.200
+stage of that plan the plan that people have been talking about since the 50s and 60s oh my gosh
+
+44:53.200 --> 44:58.800
+i remember that plan that people have been talking about since i remember that i got stung by a bug
+
+44:58.800 --> 45:04.400
+on my bike it got when that helmet and stung my ear and it's swollen there i remember that wow
+
+45:04.480 --> 45:10.800
+that's so weird entity was shot the plan that people have been talking about sorry i'll go back
+
+45:10.800 --> 45:18.400
+about that plan the plan that people have been talking about since the 50s and 60s the plan that
+
+45:18.400 --> 45:24.160
+people have been talking about since Kennedy was shot the plan that people have been talking about
+
+45:24.160 --> 45:29.920
+since the oklahoma city bombing the plan that people have been talking about since the league of
+
+45:29.920 --> 45:34.480
+of nations was instituted followed by the United Nations.
+
+45:34.480 --> 45:36.640
+The plan that people have been talking about
+
+45:36.640 --> 45:41.640
+since the IMF was first instituted, and the World Bank.
+
+45:42.280 --> 45:44.880
+Plan that everybody's been talking about
+
+45:44.880 --> 45:47.220
+that originated with the Rothschilds.
+
+45:49.000 --> 45:50.800
+What if this plan is real?
+
+45:51.880 --> 45:54.800
+And what if the coronavirus is a part of it?
+
+45:54.800 --> 45:59.160
+That's the scary story of real human history.
+
+46:00.360 --> 46:02.000
+Holy crap.
+
+46:02.000 --> 46:06.880
+Can you believe that J.C. on a bike was actually doing that?
+
+46:06.880 --> 46:09.880
+In March of, and look it, we can show you the date.
+
+46:09.880 --> 46:12.720
+We'll show you the real date on that video.
+
+46:14.760 --> 46:17.760
+Is March 18th, 2020.
+
+46:17.760 --> 46:20.120
+And so there were five in that video series.
+
+46:20.120 --> 46:22.460
+So we'll watch them on successive Thursdays,
+
+46:22.460 --> 46:26.040
+but we also have to catch up on a few other things,
+
+46:26.040 --> 46:27.840
+including America Freedom to Fascism,
+
+46:27.840 --> 46:29.480
+which I mentioned in this video.
+
+46:30.920 --> 46:32.560
+I don't want to keep you too much longer.
+
+46:32.560 --> 46:36.520
+I actually was looking forward to going upstairs
+
+46:36.520 --> 46:39.040
+and hanging out with my fam Damilly tonight.
+
+46:40.200 --> 46:45.200
+I did end up deciding to coach basketball for the sixth grade.
+
+46:45.280 --> 46:47.280
+And that means that I am going to try and shift
+
+46:47.280 --> 46:50.080
+my show forward in time.
+
+46:50.080 --> 46:51.320
+I don't know how far forward
+
+46:51.320 --> 46:52.760
+if it's going to go all the way to the morning
+
+46:52.760 --> 46:55.080
+and then I'm going to work in the afternoons,
+
+46:55.080 --> 46:57.120
+or if I'm going to start getting up early in the morning
+
+46:57.160 --> 46:59.960
+to work so that I can fulfill my obligations
+
+46:59.960 --> 47:03.800
+and get stuff done in stills three before dinner
+
+47:03.800 --> 47:07.600
+or during dinner, as you saw my best friend
+
+47:07.600 --> 47:09.200
+brought me some gnocchi for dinner,
+
+47:09.200 --> 47:11.160
+which is just like, what, are you kidding me?
+
+47:11.160 --> 47:12.000
+I win.
+
+47:12.920 --> 47:16.040
+Anyway, ladies and gentlemen,
+
+47:16.040 --> 47:18.640
+I think we have an emergency on our hands
+
+47:18.640 --> 47:21.800
+that we all understand very well.
+
+47:21.800 --> 47:25.160
+And that is that all cause mortality was converted
+
+47:25.200 --> 47:28.320
+to some kind of mythology on the basis
+
+47:28.320 --> 47:29.880
+that there was a novel virus,
+
+47:29.880 --> 47:32.760
+a novel virus in and of itself was a mythology.
+
+47:32.760 --> 47:35.440
+The way that we detected it was a mythology
+
+47:35.440 --> 47:37.120
+and the way that we forced people to change
+
+47:37.120 --> 47:39.800
+the way that they treat respiratory disease
+
+47:39.800 --> 47:43.640
+resulted in deaths that reinforced
+
+47:43.640 --> 47:45.720
+the mythology of a novel virus.
+
+47:45.720 --> 47:49.520
+It may be that an infectious RNA clone was used
+
+47:49.520 --> 47:52.080
+in order to seed the sequence around the world,
+
+47:52.080 --> 47:55.120
+but it's likely that those clones didn't spread very far.
+
+47:55.120 --> 47:58.040
+And if they were resulting in disease,
+
+47:58.040 --> 48:00.200
+they still didn't result in spread
+
+48:00.200 --> 48:04.280
+as Denny Rancor and others have shown with their data
+
+48:04.280 --> 48:07.360
+or the analysis of all cause mortality around the world.
+
+48:07.360 --> 48:10.360
+And it is the idea of inverting your kids
+
+48:10.360 --> 48:14.840
+and your grandchildren's sovereignty to that of permissions.
+
+48:14.840 --> 48:18.800
+They want to bring in from freedom to fascism.
+
+48:18.800 --> 48:21.040
+That's why we got to watch that movie.
+
+48:21.040 --> 48:23.880
+It is about the diversity that's on the planet,
+
+48:23.880 --> 48:25.160
+but they don't need everybody.
+
+48:25.160 --> 48:27.400
+They just really need the inversion
+
+48:27.400 --> 48:30.040
+of how you think about yourself,
+
+48:30.040 --> 48:32.040
+how you see your biology,
+
+48:32.040 --> 48:34.960
+so that when they decide to start sampling it
+
+48:34.960 --> 48:37.960
+or tell you how it works, you'll believe them.
+
+48:37.960 --> 48:41.400
+Just like we all believe that antibodies were the thing,
+
+48:41.400 --> 48:43.800
+and just like we believe that the virus was novel
+
+48:43.800 --> 48:45.520
+and that everybody was vulnerable.
+
+48:47.120 --> 48:48.680
+I have redone the website.
+
+48:48.680 --> 48:51.280
+It actually doesn't look quite like this anymore.
+
+48:51.280 --> 48:53.400
+I got rid of the support link at the front.
+
+48:53.400 --> 48:57.160
+I got rid of the brief, sorry, there's my arrow.
+
+48:57.160 --> 48:58.840
+I got rid of the brief link here.
+
+48:58.840 --> 49:00.920
+I got rid of the support link here.
+
+49:00.920 --> 49:03.360
+You can scroll down and if you click on this link,
+
+49:03.360 --> 49:04.560
+instead of going to support,
+
+49:04.560 --> 49:08.520
+you go to the last episode that needed correction.
+
+49:09.720 --> 49:12.760
+And so hopefully, is the timing still good?
+
+49:12.760 --> 49:15.200
+Are we still good here with the timing?
+
+49:15.200 --> 49:16.680
+That would be spectacular.
+
+49:19.880 --> 49:22.200
+Anyway, so you can now scroll down
+
+49:22.200 --> 49:24.560
+to become a supporter if you'd like.
+
+49:24.560 --> 49:27.320
+You can also join us on soapbox still.
+
+49:27.320 --> 49:29.720
+And not supporting my work there anymore,
+
+49:29.720 --> 49:31.240
+but you're just finding the last stream
+
+49:31.240 --> 49:33.240
+that I put on the archive.
+
+49:33.240 --> 49:35.640
+And I'm gonna try and be a little better about that,
+
+49:35.640 --> 49:38.800
+I promise, because I do think it's valuable
+
+49:38.800 --> 49:41.160
+to have those things permanently on Vimeo.
+
+49:41.160 --> 49:42.120
+And once they're on Vimeo,
+
+49:42.120 --> 49:44.680
+you can actually download them as well from the link.
+
+49:45.920 --> 49:47.360
+Transfection is not immunization.
+
+49:47.360 --> 49:48.560
+If you wanna say it with more words,
+
+49:48.560 --> 49:50.720
+you can say the intramuscular injection
+
+49:50.720 --> 49:52.200
+of any combination of substances
+
+49:52.200 --> 49:55.760
+with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
+
+49:57.280 --> 50:00.320
+Hey, anyway, stop transfections in humans
+
+50:00.320 --> 50:01.960
+because they're trying to eliminate the control group
+
+50:01.960 --> 50:02.800
+by any means.
+
+50:02.800 --> 50:04.440
+And necessary, don't forget to go to the
+
+50:04.440 --> 50:06.960
+Broken Science Initiative and share their work.
+
+50:06.960 --> 50:09.040
+You can see my friend Matt Briggs
+
+50:09.040 --> 50:11.760
+also discussing the recent lampooning
+
+50:11.760 --> 50:14.440
+of the transfection by giving them
+
+50:14.440 --> 50:16.360
+a Nobel Prize tongue and cheek.
+
+50:16.360 --> 50:18.080
+This has been gig ombiological,
+
+50:18.080 --> 50:20.040
+and you guys like this song,
+
+50:20.040 --> 50:22.560
+so I'm definitely gonna play it.
+
+50:22.560 --> 50:23.960
+Thanks, guys.
+
+50:23.960 --> 50:27.040
+I'll see you again tomorrow night, as usual.
+
+50:27.040 --> 50:28.560
+The streak will continue.
+
+50:29.600 --> 50:32.000
+Weak voice or not, thanks for joining me.
+
+51:02.000 --> 51:27.600
+BEY car
+
+51:27.600 --> 51:30.160
+I can't believe we fixed this bit ray thing.
+
+51:30.160 --> 51:33.160
+I didn't drop a single frame now.
+
+51:33.160 --> 51:34.800
+It's crazy.
+
+51:34.800 --> 51:36.080
+I mean, I really was blowing it.
+
+51:36.080 --> 51:39.560
+I totally changed the resolution on the monitor
+
+51:39.560 --> 51:42.800
+that I was monitoring the show from.
+
+51:42.800 --> 51:47.800
+And then it made OBS completely barfed up all the time
+
+51:48.320 --> 51:51.520
+because it couldn't render that many pixels fast
+
+51:51.520 --> 51:53.400
+and it'll be something like that.
+
+51:53.400 --> 51:57.400
+I'm an idiot, but you know, you make a...
+
+52:00.240 --> 52:01.320
+You can make a deal with what you got.
+
+52:01.320 --> 52:03.160
+Eventually you figure it out.
+
+52:03.160 --> 52:05.320
+At least I didn't bump my head or something.
+
+52:05.320 --> 52:06.160
+Thanks guys.
+
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+Arise!
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+But there's Scooby doing the other chair.
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+Surprise! It's the Scooby head the eight-man was wearing.
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+Now there's real talent.
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+We sure fooled him Scooby. We ought to be in the movies.
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+Spare!
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+Show me who we go!
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+Good evening ladies and gentlemen, this is Giga Home Biological.
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+It's a high-resistance, low-noise information brief brought to you by a biologist.
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+It is Friday the 13th of October, 2023.
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+Lots of threes today.
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+What to say about that?
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+Not the wrong with free.
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+Let's go!
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+Trying to figure out a way to get Joey in the door.
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+You see that? That was nice.
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+That was nice.
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+Oh, I ran out of music. What happened there?
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+It was a little weird.
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+I might just...
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+Might just do something like this.
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+Because it's just funny, I don't know.
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+There was no spread in New York.
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+Infectious clones are the only real threat.
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+Placebo batches were likely distributed and
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+in healthy mammals is dumb.
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+To put it another way, protocols were murdered, gain of function is a mythology.
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+The Scooby-Doo mystery that you are fooled into solving is real.
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+And the players are committed to the lies.
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+Ladies and gentlemen, this is Giga Home Biological.
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+And we are here every night trying to
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+And we are not surrendering to the fear and confusion and doubt.
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+And that's where we are.
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+Good evening ladies and gentlemen.
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+Welcome to the show coming to you live from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, dropping zero frames.
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+I assume that my lips and the picture are roughly or the lips of my sound are roughly locked.
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+That could be good.
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+I paid this out before I get a copyright strike there.
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+As usual, you know, not a lot of any different frames or different slides set tonight.
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+Just get right to the show.
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+Thanks to everybody for supporting the stream for these last three years.
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+Thank you very much for sharing it.
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+And if you can do so with this one as well, don't take the bait on TV and social media
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+because there's a lot of it right now.
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+The mystery is still being solved.
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+We are still unmasking the bad guys.
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+And we keep circling the block all the time, coming back to Berwick and EcoHealth Alliance
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+and Tony Fauci and America and lying and USAID and the CIA.
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+And we've got to wake up from this.
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+We've got to wake up from it, and we're not going to wake up from it
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+if you keep listening to the same storytellers.
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+We're not going to wake up from it.
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+If we keep listening to the same storytellers, it's not going to happen.
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+But the same storytellers are telling stories to the other people
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+And this is where we are.
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+where we are. And so we've been trying to figure out this map of people you're gonna
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+have to apologize, I have to apologize, my hoodies a little magic on the green screen.
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+But this illusion of consensus can be broken if we see it, if we can start to show it to
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+people that this agreement doesn't make any sense between these people.
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+And if we are honest, there aren't that many people that have been very consistent throughout
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+the pandemic. But one of them is definitely Nick Hudson. And he just gave a talk a couple
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+days ago, which I have been recommended to watch. I'm not, I have not watched it yet.
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+My plan is to take notes and stop it as minimally as possible to make this about an eight on
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+hour long show. So let's roll the dice and see how long I can keep my mouth shut. By the
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+way, intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting
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+the immune system is likely silly. And for sure, transmission is not immunization. So
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+we can stop all of those. We'll talk about that later. This show is about the perception
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+of what is true, the lights that are going by your head right now. If I scoot out of the
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+way a little bit, those lights that make it seem like that you're going through a tunnel,
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+obviously, you know, you're really not going through a tunnel with other side tunnels that
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+are lit by other lights. But it looks like you are. And if this goes fast enough, and there's
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+enough physical stimulation or or distraction, for example, a lockdown or economic pain or
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+TV fear or social media hype, then a pandemic can seem very, very real, just like this tunnel
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+can seem really real, especially if the only window to the outside world is a two dimensional
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+screen. These people are spectacularly committed to the lies. And Nick Hudson brings his a game
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+as he presents the data as we know it. And I think it's going to be a pretty good talk. Although,
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+I haven't seen it. It's title actuarial and statistical problems around the COVID phenomenon.
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+I have very high hopes. I consider Nick a pandemic friend. I met him through Panda,
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+obviously, and I feel like although Panda is an organization full of a variety of individuals,
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+I believe Nick to be a man of good faith and a man of seeking the truth. I do really feel like
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+he's one of these few. And that's why he's one of those green squares in my current people map.
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+So let's get this on. I'll string my head as soon as I hit play.
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+Didn't I hit play? Well, come back. We continue now with our 50th annual convention and the 75th
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+birthday celebration of the actuarial society of South Africa. If we're just meeting for the first
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+time, my name is Inkramila Andrew. I'm going to be your host for the rest of the day.
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+So it's been just over three years since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic.
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+And so allowing us time to reflect and analyze and review different perspectives, to better
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+understand things, and hopefully learn lessons from past events in order to improve for the future.
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+In these next two separate presentations that follow, we'll hear from presenters who will
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+highlight the importance of actually in such a pandemic event, as well as sharing processes
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+and technical research. Can we do the South African accent on 1.5? Is that okay with everybody?
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+If you have to, if I have to slow it down one more now, just tell me.
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+Findings when analyzing the COVID-19 pandemic. I think it'll be easier.
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+You're able to engage with the technical context and research findings of the
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+presentations during the Q&A session at the end of each presentation. In this first session,
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+we have Nikaxanja to deliver his presentation entitled actuarial and statistical problems
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+around the COVID-19 phenomenon. Thank you very much. I'm going to start by claiming
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+a first. My sister, who's much more interesting than I am, is on stage next door at the same time
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+that I'm on stage here. She's not an actuary. She's a radio presenter, but there you have it.
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+How often does that happen at the convention? Family affair, really. Most of us are old enough
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+to remember how bad COVID, sorry, bad models were so implicated in the 2008 financial crisis.
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+The dawn of the COVID phenomenon was greeted by a plethora of models predicting doom
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+of strikingly similar scale. And without exception, I'd be failing to bear even a vague
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+resemblance to its reality. Those models generally assumed that there was a deadly virus and that
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+lockdowns would slow the spread of it, resulting in less dying. One would call the results
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+comical if their impact on society had not been so tragic. When Sweden famously rejected the
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+lockdown idea, the models who facilitated the locking down of the world rejected that it would
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+experience in a few short weeks a whole year's worth of extra death, translating into a weekly
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+mortality rate some six times normal levels. That would leave them at the end of the year
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+with twice the level of normal deaths. What actually emerged was that Sweden had a year of
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+mortality in line with its tenure average. Now, in our actuarial studies, we learn about a little
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+thing called the actuarial control cycle, which amongst others entails testing our models against
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+emergent evidence in commercial settings failing to employ the control cycle after a signal as
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+loud as this one. I think he's saying too much important to go so fast.
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+Just going to slow it down one tick so everybody catches it a little bit. He's a very smart guy.
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+He speaks very well. There's nothing to do with him. It has to do with my desire for you to hear
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+Nick and what he's got to say. He's going to roll it back. The impact on society had not been so
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+tragic. When Sweden famously rejected the lockdown idea, the models who facilitated the locking down
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+of the world projected that it would experience in a few short weeks a whole year's worth of
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+extra death, translating into a weak immortality rate some six times normal levels. That would leave
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+them at the end of the year with twice the level of normal deaths. What actually emerged was that
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+Sweden had a year of mortality in line with its tenure average. Now, in our actuarial studies,
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+we learn about a little thing called the actuarial control cycle, which amongst others entails testing
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+our models against emergent evidence. In commercial settings failing to employ the control cycle
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+after a signal as loud as this one would likely result in the responsible actuary
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+facing some very difficult questions, if not being fired. Now, the evidence that those models
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+called SIR models or susceptible infected recovered models were not merely incorrectly calibrated,
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+but wholly inappropriate for application to the COVID phenomenon and that the ensuing policy
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+recommendations was wrong, was available abundantly and available decisively within weeks of the
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+onset of the COVID hysteria, but it was all ignored. It was as if the actuarial control cycle had never
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+been invented. At Panda, the organisation I co-founded along with a group of multidisciplinary
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+professionals to push back against the catastrophic hysteria, we could see, for example, that completely
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+different places with similar population characteristics experienced completely different mortality
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+outcomes, and that these differences could not be explained by viral dynamics, something else was
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+at work. This observation led us to adopt an empirical modeling approach capable of subsuming
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+all factors, not merely the theory of a novel daily virus. And despite not being perfect,
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+that model was very accurate. As the South African coronavirus modding consortium and the
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+actuarial society continued to deploy SIR models, we uttered their inaccuracy by making various
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+predictions that were strongly validated by emergent evidence. For example, at the time of release of
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+SACMA's revised model, we predicted that it would breach the lower bound of its
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+comically broad confidence intervals in 10 weeks. We were out by one day. Similarly,
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+we predicted that hospital bed demand would be just 5% of what they projected, and again,
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+correctly, in the Western Cape, our model predicted peak utilization of hospital beds to the digit.
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+In December of 2020, we engaged with the premier of the Western Cape. We asked him what had made
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+him spend hundreds of millions building two field hospitals. He said that was what the models
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+told them they would need. We described the inaccuracy of the SACMA models to him,
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+and he said he wasn't using them. He mistakenly, as it turns out, said that he was using the
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+NASA model. He then astonished us by saying that he was investing in a third facility.
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+Now, as it turns out, it seems it was not NASA who was advising him, but a consulting firm
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+using one of the varied but consistently wrong scenarios from the second iteration of the
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+NASA model. I hope that his claim about this will be investigated and that the failure of,
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+you know, by whatever consulting firm that was to comply with the normal
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+arterial control cycle will have some consequences because the public interest was definitely not
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+protected in that scenario. But building pointless facilities was the least of the travesties,
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+unleashed upon the public by woefully advised and highly pressurized governments.
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+The financial and humanitarian consequences of lockdowns have been quite staggering.
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+The established NGO, Action Against Hunger, finds as follows. Before COVID lockdowns,
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+the number of people at risk of starvation was 135 million worldwide. By the end of 2021,
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+that had increased by another 135 million people, and in 2022, it then increased by a further 67
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+million people. The result is that we currently experience about 10 million new deaths a year
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+from starvation, three million of them among children. It's a staggering, staggering
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+consequence of lockdown. On top of that, about $4 trillion of wealth has been siphoned off
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+from the middle classes to the benefit of a coterie of billionaires, the number of whom
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+swelled by a quarter over the lockdown period. Now, numbers take time to be updated, but charts
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+like this one tell a story of the haves benefiting at the expense of the have-nots.
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+And this is precisely the kind of outcome that Panda had warned of in our first paper,
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+which stirred up so much breastfeeding range and anxiety amid people swept up by the false
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+narrative of the COVID phenomenon. If you're not,
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+May 2020, Panda's contention that the COVID policy response would trigger 30 times as much
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+loss of life as COVID stood stood to was a dramatic underestimate.
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+May 2020. That's that's some impressive, impressive stuff.
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+Convinced that such people were engaged in acts of immense folly, we have an interesting tidbit
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+for you. Let's, for a moment, suspend judgment on that whole suite of SIR models. Let's assume
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+for a minute that they were actually appropriate. And we ask the question, what happens when you
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+deploy such models reflecting one of the clearest and earliest available empirical results under
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+the COVID phenomenon, namely that COVID exhibited intense age-graduated mortality with deaths,
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+among even vaguely healthy under-70s being negligible? What happens if you incorporate
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+differential mobility for the at-risk elderly? Now, at this website, we have a model you can
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+play with showing that reducing the mobility of the non-vulnerable by locking down causes her
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+immunity to be attained with higher prevalence among the vulnerable. Let that sink in for a minute.
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+What it means is that in terms of the very logic of SIR models themselves,
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+lockdowns can clearly be predicted to shift disease burden onto the people most likely to die,
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+causing total deaths to increase. This is a stunning reality and I invite you to look at
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+this website and verify it for yourself. Okay, having argued that the application of SIR models
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+is invalid. I think what's important to note here, I'm not sure if this is the model,
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+it would have been one of the models, but there are a couple old guys in Panda that are old
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+ecologists. Believe it or not, ecologists are really good at making models. A lot of their stuff
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+is based on, you know, you make a sample across an ecosystem and then you make a sample across
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+an ecosystem and then you make a sample across an ecosystem and then you make a model of what's
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+20:28.640 --> 20:37.200
+happening based on those repeated samples over seasons. And so making a model of people getting
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+20:37.200 --> 20:42.160
+infected and it's spreading and so that's easy for them. Maybe they can do that and it's the same
+
+20:42.160 --> 20:48.800
+kind of map, it's the same programming. And so Panda's website had a number of these models
+
+20:48.800 --> 20:55.040
+at one point that you could play with, which I think is pretty extraordinary. It's not something
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+20:55.040 --> 21:03.200
+that the American or the Dutch or the your any European CDC had where scroll up and down on the
+
+21:03.200 --> 21:08.080
+R knot. So you can see what it does or scroll up and down on our predictions. So you can see what
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+21:08.080 --> 21:15.280
+they do. So you can see how absurd our predictions are. Or you can see what our predictions will look
+
+21:15.280 --> 21:23.600
+like over years and why these models aren't right because they don't really. And you can play around
+
+21:23.680 --> 21:31.760
+with this, the idea of changing the age dependency of the of the potential for lethality
+
+21:32.960 --> 21:41.120
+and changing the way that that affects, you know, there are ways to do it. And there are ways that
+
+21:41.120 --> 21:44.880
+they could have brought us to understand these models better. But if they would have done that,
+
+21:44.880 --> 21:48.880
+they wouldn't have been able to make the claims that they wanted to make. We would understand the
+
+21:48.880 --> 21:55.200
+limits of their model. And the whole charade would have been over. We would have seen the two-dimensional
+
+21:56.880 --> 22:01.520
+scenery trees for what they were, because we would have turned them on their side like this and go
+
+22:01.520 --> 22:08.240
+wait, that's not a real tree. And that's what these models are. From the front, they're painted
+
+22:08.240 --> 22:12.320
+beautiful and they look like a great thing like, wow, we really understand this biology. Look,
+
+22:12.320 --> 22:22.160
+we can even adjust some parameters and the biology responds. Ooh. But even Nick will admit
+
+22:22.160 --> 22:27.920
+that this is a model that is dumb because it's still just these real basic epidemiology models
+
+22:27.920 --> 22:35.120
+based on infection and immunity and blah, blah, blah, like three variables. But if they're going to
+
+22:35.120 --> 22:40.320
+use it, then at least we might as well show them how they're not using it very well. Because if you
+
+22:40.320 --> 22:47.920
+add one more variable like age dependence, your model makes some pretty dark predictions.
+
+22:48.880 --> 22:55.920
+It's gorgeous, Nick. Congratulations, keep going. We need to get back to some reliable findings.
+
+22:56.480 --> 23:01.760
+We now have hundreds of studies validating this one from Panda's paper in mid 2020.
+
+23:02.400 --> 23:06.080
+This will be familiar to a great number of you who have ever done numerical and technical work,
+
+23:06.080 --> 23:09.600
+which I imagine will be quite a few. Lockdown students, he was entirely uncorrelated with
+
+23:09.600 --> 23:13.760
+official mortality data. On the x-axis, we have lockdown, stringency, on the y-axis,
+
+23:13.760 --> 23:18.960
+official COVID mortality. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a pain splat. No correlation.
+
+23:22.960 --> 23:28.320
+Now, we can return to the point I mentioned earlier, that one of our first and earliest
+
+23:28.320 --> 23:34.400
+conclusions was that something else was going on other than viral spread and that it had to do
+
+23:34.960 --> 23:40.720
+with where you were. Before exploring what that something is, let's explore the theoretical
+
+23:40.720 --> 23:47.040
+framework for this. A syndemic is the aggregation of two epidemics that exacerbate disease burden,
+
+23:48.000 --> 23:52.880
+where two processes are present, statistical methods can be used to assess which is the
+
+23:52.880 --> 23:59.040
+more important and how much it contributes. And one of those methods is a type of Bayesian analysis.
+
+23:59.600 --> 24:07.120
+You look at which of these two factors elicits a differentiation in the objective population.
+
+24:08.160 --> 24:12.400
+And we get some very clear and for some people quite startling findings when we do that.
+
+24:13.680 --> 24:20.400
+When the presence of COVID or a PCR test, for example, is used as a flag, what we find is that
+
+24:20.400 --> 24:25.760
+the characteristics of COVID deaths are identical to the characteristics of non-COVID deaths among
+
+24:25.760 --> 24:31.840
+multiple dimensions. So age, gender, income, and comorbidity prevalence. And this strongly
+
+24:31.840 --> 24:37.040
+suggests, very strongly suggests that COVID is not a cause of age. See what I mean by starting
+
+24:37.040 --> 24:43.120
+outcome. But if you flag people for where they were, when they died, the proportion of deaths
+
+24:43.120 --> 24:50.800
+varies spectacularly by that flag. The virus would seem to obey political borders at a very
+
+24:50.800 --> 24:57.360
+granular level, which is, of course, impossible. Death attributed to COVID emerged to be very
+
+24:57.360 --> 25:02.000
+heavily determined by political boundaries at multiple levels of granularity. The combination
+
+25:02.000 --> 25:06.320
+of those two results, the failure of COVID to divide deaths into differential populations
+
+25:06.320 --> 25:10.960
+and the very strong tendency of geographic flags to divide them very strongly suggests that
+
+25:11.680 --> 25:16.560
+variation in clinical and public health practices is a major culprit where excess mortality is
+
+25:16.640 --> 25:24.480
+involved. So does everybody understand that? If it was a disease, it should, it should separate
+
+25:24.480 --> 25:30.480
+on age, it should separate on the same morbidity, prevalences,
+
+25:35.280 --> 25:43.760
+sorry, and it doesn't. So in other words, it's not sorting by what you would expect it to sort
+
+25:43.760 --> 25:49.840
+if it was a respiratory disease with a certain set of of vulnerabilities in a certain vulnerable
+
+25:49.840 --> 25:58.320
+population. Instead, instead, as Denny has told us a couple days in a row now and even told Kim
+
+25:58.320 --> 26:09.680
+Iverson, it respects municipalities, it respects hospital regions, and it, it respects the protocols
+
+26:09.680 --> 26:17.520
+that were present. And so if the deaths don't cross borders, then they have something to do
+
+26:18.880 --> 26:25.040
+with what the people are doing inside of those borders rather than the biology, which, of course,
+
+26:25.040 --> 26:31.120
+crosses borders, and the biology that affects certain people more than other people,
+
+26:31.920 --> 26:37.760
+certain vulnerable people more than certain healthy people. But we actually didn't see that,
+
+26:37.760 --> 26:45.520
+which is really in some ways pretty striking. I think we should listen to him say it again
+
+26:45.520 --> 26:50.240
+because he says it better himself. Two results, the failure of COVID to divide deaths into
+
+26:50.240 --> 26:54.720
+differential populations and the very strong tendency of geographic flags to divide them very
+
+26:54.720 --> 27:00.320
+strongly suggests that variation in clinical and public health practices is a major culprit
+
+27:00.320 --> 27:08.720
+where excess mortality is involved. A second syndemic phenomenon was indeed operating in the
+
+27:08.720 --> 27:14.640
+background beyond the reach of media attention. Now, if this strikes you as something that's
+
+27:14.640 --> 27:20.560
+difficult to digest, I invite you to indulge in something of a thought experiment. Imagine that
+
+27:20.560 --> 27:26.080
+one day when no particular virus or bacterium or fungus was in circulation, you woke up to find
+
+27:26.160 --> 27:30.720
+that your local hospital administrator was announcing on television that certain changes
+
+27:30.720 --> 27:36.720
+would be made to his hospital's policies. Henceforth, patients with flu-like symptoms
+
+27:38.240 --> 27:43.360
+would be isolated. They would receive massively reduced attendance by healthcare workers.
+
+27:43.360 --> 27:47.360
+They would no longer receive antibiotics to suppress secondary infections.
+
+27:47.360 --> 27:51.760
+Crucial patient advocacy provided by the hospital visitation system would be terminated.
+
+27:52.320 --> 27:56.960
+The hospital's would administer a new drug called remdesivir, a drug of no demonstrated
+
+27:56.960 --> 28:01.200
+efficacy and associated with multiple organ failure. The patients would be put on ventilators.
+
+28:01.760 --> 28:06.160
+Even when they had no kinetic difficulty breathing, party to prevent the suspected
+
+28:06.160 --> 28:10.320
+aerosolization of viral particles that might endanger hospital staff and even though the
+
+28:10.320 --> 28:17.360
+ventilator mortality rate was running at well above 90%. Now, I put it to you that if that
+
+28:17.440 --> 28:22.000
+announcement happened under normal circumstances, there would be an immediate public outcry.
+
+28:22.960 --> 28:28.480
+And everybody would be abundantly, it would be abundantly clear to everybody
+
+28:28.480 --> 28:35.120
+that such moves would result in countless deaths. And there is your syndemic because that is exactly
+
+28:35.120 --> 28:39.360
+what transpired under COVID. There you go. In a nutshell,
+
+28:39.360 --> 28:47.840
+I want to hear it again because it's just so damn good. I'm going to turn it up.
+
+28:48.960 --> 28:54.960
+That was impressive. That's impressive. This is the thought experiment that I tried to get Peter
+
+28:54.960 --> 29:05.920
+to do that actually, actually, I think Danny Rancor helped me make Peter do this thought experiment
+
+29:06.000 --> 29:12.720
+in his hand. Listen to the thought experiment that Nick describes this, this, this syndemic,
+
+29:12.720 --> 29:21.440
+it's a systemic epidemic of behavior. And if you changed all the behavior and across the board,
+
+29:21.440 --> 29:27.920
+the policy change of how we're going to treat respiratory disease and the changes weren't good.
+
+29:28.720 --> 29:31.200
+That's what happens.
+
+29:38.400 --> 29:43.280
+Now, if this strikes you as something that's difficult to digest, I invite you to indulge
+
+29:43.280 --> 29:48.160
+in something of a thought experiment. Imagine that one day when no particular virus or
+
+29:48.160 --> 29:53.280
+bacteria or fungus was in circulation, you woke up to find that your local hospital
+
+29:53.280 --> 29:58.240
+administrator was announcing on television that certain changes would be made to his hospital's
+
+29:58.240 --> 30:06.720
+policies. Henceforth, patients with flu-like symptoms would be isolated. They would receive
+
+30:06.720 --> 30:11.120
+massively reduced attendance by healthcare workers. They would no longer receive antibiotics to
+
+30:11.120 --> 30:16.560
+suppress secondary infections. Crucial patient advocacy provided by the hospital visitation
+
+30:16.560 --> 30:21.760
+system would be terminated. The hospital's would administer a new drug called Remdesivir,
+
+30:21.760 --> 30:24.800
+a drug of no demonstrated efficacy, and associated with multiple organ failure.
+
+30:25.440 --> 30:29.680
+The patients would be put on ventilators. Even when they had no kinetic difficulty breathing,
+
+30:30.240 --> 30:34.880
+partly to prevent the suspected aerosolization of viral particles that might endanger hospital
+
+30:34.880 --> 30:38.880
+staff, and even though the ventilator mortality rate was running at well above 90%.
+
+30:40.400 --> 30:46.320
+Now, I'd put it to you that if that announcement happened under normal circumstances, there would
+
+30:46.400 --> 30:54.160
+be an immediate public outcry. And everybody would be abundantly clear to everybody
+
+30:54.160 --> 31:00.880
+that such moves would result in countless deaths. And there is your syndemic because that is exactly
+
+31:00.880 --> 31:06.240
+what transpired under COVID. Such practices were taken up more enthusiastically in certain hospitals
+
+31:06.240 --> 31:10.800
+than in others and in certain districts than in others, explaining the stock geospatial
+
+31:10.800 --> 31:16.800
+differentials among other deaths. And that also why it correlated with the lockdowns,
+
+31:16.800 --> 31:23.440
+because essentially either you had a top down administration from the governor to the state
+
+31:23.440 --> 31:29.520
+health administrator or whatever the hell they're called in your state down to the school boards
+
+31:29.520 --> 31:35.360
+and the county and whatever. In Pennsylvania, that's the way it was. You just had somebody at
+
+31:35.360 --> 31:40.640
+the top saying we're going to follow all the rules. And once that person says that, it's all the way
+
+31:40.640 --> 31:46.000
+down the chain. And if you have that, then you also have more likely hospital administrators
+
+31:46.000 --> 31:52.400
+that are just going to say no holds barred, follow the protocols. And there were other places
+
+31:52.400 --> 31:56.320
+where they just weren't that strict. And when you weren't that strict, then doctors did what
+
+31:56.320 --> 32:01.440
+they should have done done and just treated like they treat all the time the symptoms said they
+
+32:01.440 --> 32:10.400
+see in front of them. And that's why there was no spread of the deaths. The mortality didn't
+
+32:10.400 --> 32:17.280
+spread. It respected borders. And that's why it respected borders because it was human behavior.
+
+32:19.040 --> 32:26.480
+Top down orchestrated human behavior. Just like this thought experiment that Nick just described,
+
+32:26.480 --> 32:33.920
+Nick is killing it. We're going to have to come up with a good name for him. If Mike Eden is
+
+32:34.000 --> 32:40.160
+Mr. Sparkle, then who's this? Can we call him Mr. Clean? Because I don't want to,
+
+32:40.160 --> 32:43.520
+it could be Mr. Clean, but Mr. Clean's bald, so I don't want to say that.
+
+32:45.200 --> 32:48.880
+In terms of the hypothesis known as the healthcare fragility hypothesis, which has
+
+32:48.880 --> 32:53.360
+a rapidly increasing number of adherence due to the multiple data points supporting it,
+
+32:53.360 --> 32:58.880
+the COVID phenomenon is best viewed as a mass casualty event rather than as a viral pandemic.
+
+32:59.280 --> 33:06.720
+Right. So far, the contents of this presentation have been quite bland and controversial.
+
+33:07.360 --> 33:11.760
+He's a little bit like a Sean Connery from South Africa, though. What would that, what could we
+
+33:11.760 --> 33:16.560
+call him then? Is there a, if you use Sean Connery, is that a clue for a new nickname?
+
+33:18.480 --> 33:23.440
+So before I turn to the hot button of the injections, I'd like to have an opportunity to
+
+33:23.520 --> 33:29.360
+loosen you up with some salient facts. The following statements are all true and presented
+
+33:29.360 --> 33:35.520
+in approximately temporal order. Number one, governance signed draconian contracts,
+
+33:35.520 --> 33:39.920
+committing them to acquiring billions of injection doses prior to the dissemination of any evidence
+
+33:39.920 --> 33:46.000
+regarding their safety and efficacy. Number two, the results of randomized trials run by
+
+33:46.000 --> 33:50.560
+the manufacturers of those injections were released. These trials were underpowered,
+
+33:50.560 --> 33:55.200
+were not double blinded, and groups vulnerable to severe COVID outcomes were underrepresented.
+
+33:56.320 --> 34:01.920
+Analysis of those trials demonstrated using the trial data that the intervention arm of the study
+
+34:01.920 --> 34:07.280
+exhibited worse all cause experience and that all relevant clinical outcomes.
+
+34:08.880 --> 34:13.760
+Worse all cause experience under all relevant clinical outcomes than the placebo arm.
+
+34:15.120 --> 34:19.920
+The intervention arm suffered higher all cause deaths, higher all cause hospitalization rates,
+
+34:20.720 --> 34:28.320
+more serious adverse events, and higher all cause severe morbidity, and many people are
+
+34:28.320 --> 34:35.600
+astonished to find out. Even higher occurrence of COVID symptoms as defined by the study itself.
+
+34:38.880 --> 34:45.200
+Media claims of 95% efficacy for these products were premised on one non-clinical finding from
+
+34:45.200 --> 34:50.560
+the study that of higher incidence of COVID symptoms in conjunction with a positive PCR test.
+
+34:50.560 --> 34:56.080
+It's a non-clinical finding. It's of no use to man or beast. Analysts found that the propensity to
+
+34:56.080 --> 35:00.960
+apply PCR tests to those with COVID symptoms in the placebo arm was multiple higher than the
+
+35:00.960 --> 35:05.280
+similar propensity for the intervention arm suggesting profound crossing of the blind and
+
+35:05.280 --> 35:14.240
+invalidating that sole non-clinical result. So start. Number three, a legal case was brought
+
+35:14.240 --> 35:20.240
+by a whistleblower from a company called Ventavia citing multiple serious irregularities at labs
+
+35:20.240 --> 35:25.440
+to whom administration of the Pfizer trial had been outsourced. Quite astonishingly Pfizer's
+
+35:25.440 --> 35:29.760
+defense in that case was not that no fraud had been committed but essentially that it had served
+
+35:29.760 --> 35:36.160
+up the fraud demanded of it by the US military. The Fifth Circuit judge did not accept this
+
+35:36.160 --> 35:41.040
+defense but ruled that while those irregularities were problematic they were not evidence of commercial
+
+35:41.120 --> 35:45.200
+fraud because the contracts had been signed prior to commission of the scientific fraud
+
+35:46.160 --> 35:49.440
+and that the fact that the FDA hadn't done its job in that it authorized rather than
+
+35:49.440 --> 35:55.440
+approved the vaccines left the matter out of the court's hands. Number four and perhaps most
+
+35:55.440 --> 36:00.320
+significantly of all Pfizer then performed a bait and switch. It distributed to the world a
+
+36:00.320 --> 36:05.200
+product fundamentally different from the one that had fraudulently tested in crucial regards.
+
+36:06.000 --> 36:12.240
+Number five, it's this list is long. Pfizer and the FDA went to court in an attempt to prevent
+
+36:12.240 --> 36:19.200
+the exchange of data between them from becoming public for 75 years. Now it's important to note
+
+36:19.200 --> 36:22.560
+that Pfizer never responded to the allegations regarding the clinical findings of the trials
+
+36:22.560 --> 36:26.960
+even though a central and early voice and primary author in the whole fracar was a respected and
+
+36:26.960 --> 36:31.760
+long-serving editor of the British medical journal itself. This is stunning because the
+
+36:31.840 --> 36:37.440
+implication is that anyone who has ever recommended that anybody be vaccinated with the Pfizer
+
+36:37.440 --> 36:42.320
+product is wittingly or unwittingly arguing that even though the product is expected to make you
+
+36:42.320 --> 36:46.320
+more likely to become sick, to experience severe illness, to be hospitalized or to die,
+
+36:47.280 --> 36:54.480
+you should take it so that we can have fewer positive PCOS and that quite clearly is a ridiculous
+
+36:54.560 --> 37:01.440
+proposition. With these facts in mind, that was all preamble, I invite you to put aside
+
+37:01.440 --> 37:07.920
+your judgments to forget about what the man on the TV may have told you and to consider some data
+
+37:07.920 --> 37:14.800
+about these injections. Much of the evidence presented in favor of the injections outside of
+
+37:14.800 --> 37:21.920
+the fraudulent Pfizer Phase 3 trials is classed as observational, as distinct from arising from
+
+37:21.920 --> 37:27.200
+a randomized control trial. Now this is sketchy at best because of the very large difficulty in
+
+37:27.200 --> 37:32.080
+designing observational studies so as to eliminate confounding factors and because of the extremely
+
+37:32.080 --> 37:38.320
+low fatality rate of COVID. The single most relied upon analysis regarding these injections is
+
+37:38.320 --> 37:44.400
+arguably that emanating from the UK's ONS or Office for National Statistics. Based on aggregate data,
+
+37:44.400 --> 37:50.160
+it claimed that the vaccines had high efficacy going even beyond the all-cause result arising
+
+37:50.160 --> 37:56.480
+from the Pfizer trial. After much, much foot dragging, the underlying data was released,
+
+37:56.480 --> 38:01.040
+this took for your requests and constant harassment and badgering and researchers immediately
+
+38:01.040 --> 38:05.520
+demonstrated significant problems visible in the underlying data. For example, if you look at this
+
+38:05.520 --> 38:13.120
+chart, this analysis of age classified non-COVID mortality comes from that data. The gray line
+
+38:13.120 --> 38:18.640
+superimposes injection uptake on this rather strange non-COVID mortality line for the unvaccinated,
+
+38:18.640 --> 38:24.000
+which is depicted in orange. And once you've seen that, all credibility you may ever took to
+
+38:24.000 --> 38:32.080
+that study should evaporate immediately. Absent a coherent explanation for how the act of injecting
+
+38:32.080 --> 38:39.120
+grandpa over here causes a grandpa over there to drop dead. It's actually unfortunate that this
+
+38:40.160 --> 38:44.960
+graph is in a little better because this gray line telling you how many doses were taken up,
+
+38:45.600 --> 38:53.600
+it's on a scale from 0 to 100%. Now, if it was a numbers and you have deaths per thousand,
+
+38:53.600 --> 38:58.800
+you might even get a better idea of how related they are. I understand that this still shows you
+
+38:58.800 --> 39:04.320
+something temporally, but it would be interesting to know at what scale we're at because it looks to
+
+39:04.320 --> 39:10.160
+me, you know, you'd hope that it would happen within two weeks and then that would be the two
+
+39:10.240 --> 39:15.840
+week shift, right? Because everybody's unvaccinated for two weeks. And so if it just shifted all the
+
+39:15.840 --> 39:22.160
+people that were taking the shot to a more likely attesting positive and getting whatever,
+
+39:23.280 --> 39:28.960
+then this rise here should be related to these shots, but then it'll be farther in time.
+
+39:31.040 --> 39:36.000
+And then they would have been vaccinated. So it's interesting. It's interesting to think that
+
+39:36.000 --> 39:39.840
+maybe that these people that were vaccinated are giving it to the unvaccinated people,
+
+39:39.840 --> 39:43.920
+but I don't, I'm not saying that. I'm just, I wonder what Nick will say.
+
+39:44.480 --> 39:52.000
+So spend all credibility to this analysis. It's, there's clearly something going
+
+39:52.000 --> 39:56.720
+deeply wrong with the methodology of the study. This is just one of multiple problems from the
+
+39:56.720 --> 40:02.640
+study. And it's a distinct issue, for example, from the canard of categorizing people as unvaccinated
+
+40:02.720 --> 40:06.480
+for the first however many weeks after their vaccination. Now, no act, you should have any
+
+40:06.480 --> 40:11.600
+problem spotting the immediate problem with that canard because, and it's very easy to demonstrate
+
+40:11.600 --> 40:16.720
+this, this will mathematically artificially induce almost arbitrarily high efficacy signals,
+
+40:17.360 --> 40:22.560
+even if an observational study is unwittingly structured to compare one placebo with another.
+
+40:23.120 --> 40:29.440
+Doesn't require a live medication. Just a placebo versus placebo study with that methodology will
+
+40:29.440 --> 40:34.160
+give a false, obviously a false efficacy signal. This is what it looks like.
+
+40:35.200 --> 40:40.320
+On a, obviously if there's exactly the same methodology for the two arms, no, no exclusion
+
+40:40.320 --> 40:42.720
+period in either of the arms, then the results are going to be the same because we've got a
+
+40:42.720 --> 40:48.000
+placebo versus a placebo. But if you introduce just a two week exclusion period, you get an
+
+40:48.000 --> 40:53.920
+artificial efficacy for placebo versus placebo of 60%. And if you extend it to three weeks,
+
+40:54.800 --> 40:58.320
+that boosts the signal to around 80%. Remember, this is entirely of the artificial structure,
+
+40:58.320 --> 41:03.200
+manufactured example. And they were studies that have gone as far as seven weeks of exclusion.
+
+41:05.120 --> 41:10.240
+It's fraud. It's scientific fraud. And of course, the other thing that happens here is after so many
+
+41:10.240 --> 41:15.520
+weeks, 10, 12 weeks, whatever, what happens? Trials terminated before this effect can disappear.
+
+41:16.880 --> 41:21.040
+And yet this scam, because that's what it is, is an almost uniform feature of investigations
+
+41:21.040 --> 41:23.200
+into injection consequences. Pointing out that.
+
+41:24.000 --> 41:27.760
+So you want me to explain this one, Ali Maria or the one before this?
+
+41:33.760 --> 41:35.840
+Otherwise, I'll just keep going the one before it.
+
+41:42.400 --> 41:47.840
+So this is unvaccinated mortality. This is vaccinated mortality. He's saying that it's not
+
+41:48.400 --> 42:00.480
+it's not consistent with the idea that this dose uptake here. And this rise in unvaccinated
+
+42:00.480 --> 42:08.480
+mortality shouldn't be so temporarily related to one another. Vaccinated should be higher or equal,
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+42:08.480 --> 42:13.920
+but this plot is consistently below life table rate. So I think he's here talking about
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+42:14.480 --> 42:21.200
+these people aren't even dying at the normal rate that their age group should die. So that's
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+42:21.200 --> 42:26.960
+also weird. There's a number of things that he's pointing out here. I'm going to go forward a
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+42:26.960 --> 42:31.360
+little bit. So this one is just showing you that when you use that two week exclusion for a brief
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+42:31.360 --> 42:38.640
+window of six or eight weeks, it's really an amazing false impression that you have efficacy.
+
+42:39.600 --> 42:44.960
+And Crawford actually showed those two on three months. It's very easy to think about it.
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+42:44.960 --> 42:48.560
+It's very easy to think about it just from the perspective of measuring the number of days.
+
+42:49.280 --> 42:53.440
+So if you just do the imaginary study where
+
+43:00.000 --> 43:07.680
+the stuff that I spray on my feet keeps my keeps me from getting from getting bug bites on my feet.
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+43:08.320 --> 43:15.440
+But it's only effective after 14 days of use. So before I've used it for 14 days, I still have
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+43:15.440 --> 43:22.800
+unsprayed feet. So if you compare my sprayed feet to a bunch of people that don't spray their feet
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+43:22.800 --> 43:29.200
+for 28 days, and actually there's only 14 days of that 28 days where you're going to be looking at
+
+43:29.200 --> 43:34.640
+me and whether I get my bug bites, because before that, I'm actually contributing to the other group.
+
+43:35.600 --> 43:40.800
+And if anybody gets bit in the first 14 days of their before the 14th day of their spraying,
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+43:41.760 --> 43:47.520
+then you're going to move them to the unvaccinated group. That's what they did in all these studies.
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+43:49.600 --> 43:56.160
+And so by the end of the study, when you've moved anybody in the first 14 days that got bit
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+43:56.160 --> 44:00.160
+by a bug over to the other side, and then you said, see the people that sprayed their feet
+
+44:01.040 --> 44:05.440
+didn't get bit. It's very deceptive because you've actually
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+44:06.320 --> 44:10.960
+excluded half of the time period of the 28 days and put it in the other group.
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+44:12.720 --> 44:18.720
+And even though they extended this out, if you think of the vulnerability as being an exponentially
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+44:18.720 --> 44:22.960
+decreasing curve, then they're shifting a lot of things over to the other group.
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+44:23.040 --> 44:31.200
+And then you get this slight but solid signal of effectiveness that they could parade around
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+44:31.200 --> 44:40.240
+with relative risk. It's extraordinary. It's fraud. It's scientific fraud. It's fraud.
+
+44:41.200 --> 44:44.960
+And of course, the other thing that happens here is after so many weeks, 10, 12 weeks, whatever,
+
+44:44.960 --> 44:48.160
+what happens? Trials terminated before this effect can disappear.
+
+44:49.040 --> 44:53.680
+And yet, this scam, because that's what it is, is an almost uniform feature of investigations
+
+44:53.680 --> 44:58.320
+into injection consequences, pointing out that creator scare hospital was deploying it,
+
+44:58.320 --> 45:01.920
+elicited what was perhaps the greatest and most coordinated media smear campaign that
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+45:01.920 --> 45:06.560
+I faced since I started speaking out against the madness. All of it, of course, based on complete
+
+45:06.560 --> 45:12.560
+fabrications. Now, as a rule of thumb, categorical studies relying on accurate placement and
+
+45:12.640 --> 45:16.880
+control for all material confounding variables are as scarce as hence teeth.
+
+45:17.520 --> 45:20.160
+And you have to ask the question, what can we do about that?
+
+45:22.000 --> 45:28.320
+For our money, the most reliable form of investigation plausible is to conduct
+
+45:28.320 --> 45:32.320
+temporal correlation assessments for causality of all cause mortality.
+
+45:33.280 --> 45:36.640
+It's not something we study in the actual syllabus, the Bradford Hill criteria for assessing
+
+45:36.640 --> 45:41.360
+temporal causation are well known in public else. Lots of people now need to utilize them.
+
+45:41.440 --> 45:43.920
+They're not, they're well within the capacity of most actors to understand.
+
+45:45.680 --> 45:49.040
+And you can apply it to data like this. This is data from the Netherlands.
+
+45:49.600 --> 45:54.320
+And that data is crucially important because, and uniquely valuable, because that country
+
+45:54.320 --> 45:58.800
+conducted its vaccine rollout in a strictly age-based fashion. Each and every age group
+
+45:58.800 --> 46:06.800
+produces a chart like this. Now, just, I just want, oh, sorry, skip the page, there we go.
+
+46:06.800 --> 46:10.080
+I just want to, you know, maybe just make sure you're reading the lines correctly.
+
+46:10.080 --> 46:13.840
+The blue is the summer and spring vaccination program, number of doses.
+
+46:13.840 --> 46:17.920
+And the gray on the right there that's, that hump is the autumn vaccination process.
+
+46:18.480 --> 46:21.040
+Red is excess mortality for this age group.
+
+46:22.640 --> 46:26.080
+Yeah, no challenge. Bradford Hill, tick, tick, tick, all the way to the bank.
+
+46:26.960 --> 46:32.400
+The vaccinologist, doctor, Theo, Theo Chittis, who did this work,
+
+46:32.480 --> 46:37.520
+infers from this work, an accrued vaccine dose fatality rate of about 2,000 per million doses,
+
+46:38.160 --> 46:42.640
+making it even more fatal than the purported fatality rate of SARS-CoV-2.
+
+46:43.440 --> 46:46.720
+It's very serious stuff and very hard to look at without scratching your head.
+
+46:48.960 --> 46:52.960
+Other analyses are beginning to emerge. This one I have not time had time to study.
+
+46:52.960 --> 46:56.720
+It was the degree of rigor I'd like. I know the author, he's a reliable guy.
+
+46:57.680 --> 47:04.160
+And he deploys a methodologically sophisticated approach to test for what's going on.
+
+47:06.320 --> 47:09.200
+This is Danny Rancor's work. You can see his name right there.
+
+47:12.560 --> 47:18.000
+For temporal regime change and to assess data from near tropical countries where mortality
+
+47:18.000 --> 47:21.680
+exhibits very weak seasonality, so it doesn't produce a big noisy effect in your data.
+
+47:21.680 --> 47:28.800
+It estimates a crude vaccine dose fatality rate of 1,260 per million doses, so a little bit low,
+
+47:28.800 --> 47:33.040
+but pretty much in line from an order of magnitude perspective with Theo Chittis' work.
+
+47:34.000 --> 47:36.160
+Notably, in this analysis, South Africa produces...
+
+47:36.160 --> 47:38.960
+Theo Skitters is what he should be saying.
+
+47:38.960 --> 47:44.080
+Theo Skitters, he's saying it a bit funny because he's South African and they speak Dutch too.
+
+47:44.080 --> 47:47.840
+The worst estimate I've come, so perhaps we should be grateful that the vast majority
+
+47:47.840 --> 47:50.160
+of our population declined the opportunity to be vaccinated.
+
+47:51.040 --> 47:56.160
+Despite the fact that attempts to coerce them, we're in clear violations of multiple
+
+47:56.160 --> 48:02.480
+codes of public health and human rights. An important note with regards to both these investigations is
+
+48:02.480 --> 48:09.840
+that... That's a nice way of saying it in violation of multiple codes of human rights.
+
+48:11.920 --> 48:17.600
+That's a pretty good way of saying it. Vaccine dose fatality rate exhibits a very strong
+
+48:17.600 --> 48:22.640
+age graduation, so it's a feature which ought to be explored for the same reasons I outlined
+
+48:22.640 --> 48:27.040
+earlier with respect to COVID mortality in the discussion on syndemicity.
+
+48:28.880 --> 48:32.560
+Now, it takes a while for research like this to come to light, not least of all,
+
+48:32.560 --> 48:36.800
+because it's clearly funded and because we often have to undertake the costly step of deploying
+
+48:36.800 --> 48:40.800
+freedom of information requests to obtain data that should never have been out of the public domain
+
+48:40.800 --> 48:45.680
+in the first place. But there were early warning systems in place and they had been,
+
+48:45.680 --> 48:48.880
+for a couple of years, sounding an unprecedented alarm. Look at this.
+
+48:49.520 --> 48:53.360
+This is the VAERS system in the US. It's a signaling system for adverse events,
+
+48:53.360 --> 48:59.360
+which the FDA is justly very proud of, not to mention legally obliged to maintain
+
+48:59.360 --> 49:04.000
+a good working order, and in respect of which it is a felony to input false records.
+
+49:04.640 --> 49:09.920
+And that VAERS system, vaccine adverse event reporting system, was signing out a signal orders
+
+49:09.920 --> 49:13.680
+of magnitude higher than any ever seen for any product ever before.
+
+49:15.040 --> 49:23.360
+And what the response was after this absolutely flawed because I began hearing people spectacularly
+
+49:23.360 --> 49:28.080
+committed to lying, trying to make up that these vaccine records were input by anti-vaxx
+
+49:28.080 --> 49:33.600
+mainly comes was after this absolutely flawed because I began hearing people spectacularly
+
+49:33.600 --> 49:38.240
+committed to lying trying to make up that these vaccine records were input by anti-vaxx
+
+49:38.240 --> 50:02.640
+members of the general public. It's a claim which doesn't even stand up to very modest
+
+50:02.640 --> 50:06.640
+scrutiny. That's just an impossibility. Even worse is the claims that these injuries were
+
+50:06.640 --> 50:12.000
+really long COVID. Of course, that's obviously long COVID. A condition for which there is no
+
+50:12.000 --> 50:17.520
+sound clinical definition and which has failed to evidence of existence in any sound statistical
+
+50:17.520 --> 50:24.080
+test. They claim this even to explain the massively elevated rates of cancer and heart
+
+50:24.080 --> 50:29.280
+deaths being witnessed the world over. And the worst thing is that they know that we know that
+
+50:29.280 --> 50:36.080
+they're lying. When it comes to claims regarding the impact of the vaccines on COVID transmission,
+
+50:36.080 --> 50:41.440
+the warning signs came far earlier than this by decades, in fact. Research into the question
+
+50:41.440 --> 50:45.520
+of whether serum antibodies are sufficient to elicit mucosal immune response necessary to
+
+50:45.520 --> 50:50.400
+prevent infection and transmission has been consistent and clear. There was no sign of such an effect.
+
+50:51.120 --> 50:54.720
+And when it came to the COVID injections, among the earliest findings admitted to even by the
+
+50:54.720 --> 50:59.920
+sanctity faulty himself was that there was no difference in viral titers between infected vaccinated
+
+50:59.920 --> 51:05.600
+and infected unvaccinated people. Yet, despite the non-existence of any plausible mechanism for
+
+51:05.600 --> 51:09.840
+transmission suppression and interface of abundant evidence that there actually wasn't any,
+
+51:09.840 --> 51:13.120
+the lie of transmission reduction pulled forth from the miles not just a faulty,
+
+51:14.000 --> 51:19.680
+but of diverse characters such as Rachel Maddow and Albert Boula, the CEO of Pfizer and Bill Gates.
+
+51:21.040 --> 51:26.720
+Given that transmission reduction was the prime and virtually the sole motive behind vaccine
+
+51:26.720 --> 51:33.120
+mandates, this was for me a particularly disgusting turn of events. A somewhat depressing reality to
+
+51:33.200 --> 51:40.000
+acknowledge is the sheer lack of commerciality entailed in accepting the received narrative
+
+51:40.000 --> 51:46.000
+around the COVID phenomenon. By day, I run a successful private equity fund. Private equity
+
+51:46.000 --> 51:51.120
+management firms suffer one of the highest mortality rates in the world, principally because
+
+51:51.120 --> 51:55.760
+very few people are able to sustain the degree of skepticism that is necessary in an environment
+
+51:55.760 --> 52:01.600
+that's characterized by very intense information asymmetries. The lesson that every would be private
+
+52:01.600 --> 52:07.440
+equity transactor has to learn in order to avoid obliteration is that claims made by people
+
+52:07.440 --> 52:12.560
+whose financial well-being entails making those claims are to be assigned very low
+
+52:12.560 --> 52:19.280
+credibility. Simple little principle. Sorry, wait a second.
+
+52:26.400 --> 52:31.360
+The uncomfortable reality is that all of our media, our universities, our institutions of
+
+52:31.440 --> 52:36.320
+public health and all relevant regulators are deeply in the pockets of pharmaceutical stakeholders
+
+52:36.880 --> 52:40.720
+very deeply. This chart just shows the funding from the largest family foundation that happens
+
+52:40.720 --> 52:46.160
+to be also one of the largest investors in vaccines. Funding just for South Africa and I would just
+
+52:46.160 --> 52:49.440
+point out that there are some aggregations that need to be done there to work out the true scale
+
+52:49.440 --> 52:53.040
+of the funding at some of these institutions. They're neatly pocketed them into different divisions
+
+52:53.040 --> 52:57.600
+and mark them as if they're going to different places. But officers of these institutions,
+
+52:57.600 --> 53:02.480
+all of them, are able to speak out only if they are willing to see their careers destroyed.
+
+53:03.120 --> 53:07.520
+Therefore, anything they do say about the COVID narrative must logically be ignored.
+
+53:08.400 --> 53:13.120
+Victims such as follow the science and appeals to authority of such creatures
+
+53:13.120 --> 53:18.560
+should bring hollow to anybody who hears them. In a similar vein, common sense dictates that
+
+53:18.560 --> 53:23.680
+under such conditions it is wise to look at who is trying to censor whom. Throughout history,
+
+53:24.320 --> 53:30.080
+censorship has never been the objective of the good guys. I've been reminded so many times
+
+53:30.880 --> 53:37.360
+during this saga of Alexander Solzhenitsyn's great work, the Gulag Archipelago. His notions
+
+53:37.360 --> 53:42.160
+of the banality of evil and how the line between good and evil runs through every human heart
+
+53:42.720 --> 53:48.720
+have never rung to her for me than in the last few years. It is the rule, not the exception,
+
+53:49.360 --> 53:54.480
+that people who commit evil acts are generally sincerely convinced of their own good intentions.
+
+53:55.200 --> 54:01.600
+And an episode of evil that I would say surpasses any event in world history has befallen us
+
+54:02.560 --> 54:10.720
+these past few years. And it continues to befall us. Wait, what I mean continues to befall us.
+
+54:11.840 --> 54:16.800
+As we speak, South Africa and many other nations are set to sign up to a World Health Organization,
+
+54:16.880 --> 54:20.880
+a court and a subsidiary set of international health regulations that make the outrages of the
+
+54:20.880 --> 54:26.320
+COVID period pale into complete insignificance. In terms of these agreements, countries agree
+
+54:26.320 --> 54:31.360
+whenever a public health emergency has been declared to regard all the whose health recommendations
+
+54:31.360 --> 54:37.120
+as compulsory, including but not limited to mass mandated vaccination, mandated medical
+
+54:37.120 --> 54:42.480
+examinations, boarded closures, incarceration or quarantine of the unvaccinated and mandatory
+
+54:42.480 --> 54:47.680
+censorship regimes. In short, whenever a health emergency is declared, the sovereignty of any
+
+54:47.680 --> 54:51.680
+nation and all civil liberties would be suspended for as long as the World Health Organization demands
+
+54:51.680 --> 54:57.840
+it to be. No condition is imposed on this other than the declaration of a threat, regardless of
+
+54:57.840 --> 55:04.560
+whether there is any demonstrated harm or mortality rate. And it can be imposed at the
+
+55:04.560 --> 55:10.560
+sole behest of the Director General with no obligation upon him to follow any sort of democratic or
+
+55:10.560 --> 55:14.480
+consultative process. And I'll remind you that the person sitting in that chair right now
+
+55:15.040 --> 55:18.480
+is a former terrorist with a long history of human rights abuses.
+
+55:20.480 --> 55:24.640
+Now, agreeing to do this may well be contrary to our Constitution and there's a legal
+
+55:24.640 --> 55:29.360
+fight to be had there. But what the Bretton Woods organizations did throughout COVID and clearly
+
+55:29.360 --> 55:34.880
+signaled they were enthusiastic to do some more, is that non-compliance with World Health Organization
+
+55:34.880 --> 55:39.920
+dictates resulted in exclusion from the global financing system. And there are only a handful
+
+55:39.920 --> 55:43.840
+of nations on the whole planet who are sufficiently autarkic to survive that.
+
+55:45.360 --> 55:49.920
+The accord also expands the scope of the very perverse One Health System. It's a creepy philosophy
+
+55:49.920 --> 55:55.440
+that extends the definition of health outcomes to include all sorts of non-human priorities.
+
+55:56.480 --> 56:00.400
+If you haven't heard of it before, I really suggest you read up on it. Both of these documents
+
+56:00.400 --> 56:06.880
+set up a requirement as well for a very intensive and continuous surveillance for viruses and
+
+56:06.960 --> 56:12.320
+their so-called variants. Now, they will definitely find some of these as they exist in nature all
+
+56:12.320 --> 56:18.720
+the time, all the time, always around us. And next time, they will not have to fabricate a story
+
+56:18.720 --> 56:25.440
+about a pangolin and a bat in the bar. And this can then be used, the discovery of any kind of
+
+56:25.440 --> 56:31.440
+novel sequence for the inception of further lockdowns of populations potentially all over the planet.
+
+56:32.240 --> 56:36.240
+And what waits in the wings is the thing called the CEPI 100 Day Vax Initiative,
+
+56:36.240 --> 56:41.280
+which is then anticipated to deliver a new mRNA vaccine which will be profit as the only path out
+
+56:41.280 --> 56:47.600
+of lockdown, under peril of financial isolation. To make matters worse, taxpayers will fund all
+
+56:47.600 --> 56:52.640
+of this nonsense, but the profits will go to the pharmaceutical industry. The surveillance
+
+56:52.640 --> 56:57.360
+set up and the bureaucracy behind it make it inevitable that we will have recurrent threats
+
+56:57.360 --> 57:03.360
+declared and acted upon. The funding involved here is nose bleeding, far higher than for any
+
+57:03.360 --> 57:09.920
+endemic disease on the planet. The World Bank says about $3.1.5 billion a year. But that's
+
+57:09.920 --> 57:13.040
+a small fraction of the profits that stand to be made by the pharmaceutical industry in this
+
+57:13.040 --> 57:18.400
+process. And all of this is true despite the fact that no broad recirculating virus has produced
+
+57:18.400 --> 57:22.880
+even a miniscule fraction of the disease burden of major infectious and non-communicable diseases.
+
+57:23.760 --> 57:28.560
+It's all perfectly bananas. And unless you're entirely brainwashed, a recipe for disaster for
+
+57:28.560 --> 57:33.520
+everyone except the soon-to-be-minted trillionaires who sit at the top of this epic food chain.
+
+57:34.880 --> 57:44.480
+It should worry you. That is so brilliant. This epic food chain. I mean, what he just said there
+
+57:44.480 --> 57:49.280
+was just genius. It produced even a miniscule fraction of the disease burden of major infectious
+
+57:49.360 --> 57:54.960
+and non-communicable diseases. It's all perfectly bananas. And unless you're entirely brainwashed,
+
+57:54.960 --> 58:00.160
+a recipe for disaster for everyone except the soon-to-be-minted trillionaires who sit at the top
+
+58:00.160 --> 58:07.520
+of this epic food chain. It's perfectly bananas. Perfectly bananas. There's two words that I would
+
+58:07.520 --> 58:17.120
+never put together myself in Nick's accent from his tongue. It is the sharpest of sharp knives.
+
+58:17.120 --> 58:23.200
+It is perfectly bananas what we've done. It's perfectly bananas that we've let them do it.
+
+58:23.200 --> 58:27.680
+And it's perfectly bananas that we aren't already having heads on pikes.
+
+58:29.600 --> 58:34.880
+It should worry you that not have worded this has been spoken in our parliament or any parliament
+
+58:34.880 --> 58:38.640
+anywhere in the world and that the mainstream media have been completely mute on any of the
+
+58:38.640 --> 58:46.960
+significant aspects of this whole arrangement. You will appreciate why I am choosing to end
+
+58:47.120 --> 58:52.000
+by saying that I hope that this period during which we have accepted the refusal of people
+
+58:52.000 --> 58:56.160
+promoting the most damaging and extreme actions the world has ever encountered to submit their
+
+58:56.160 --> 59:00.480
+ideas to the scrutiny of their peers and to engage with their critics in public forums
+
+59:00.480 --> 59:05.920
+will come to an end very soon. Maybe our discussions together now can signal the beginning of the
+
+59:05.920 --> 59:12.960
+end of that blind acceptance. A sign of this would be one of the injection promoters accepting our
+
+59:12.960 --> 59:17.280
+long-standing invitation to submit their sanitized data and methodology to us full of you. It's
+
+59:17.280 --> 59:24.880
+perfectly standard scientific process. And above all as the fog of the COVID hysteria lifts it's my
+
+59:24.880 --> 59:31.600
+hope that many more members of this profession will recover the common sense and the commerciality
+
+59:31.600 --> 59:39.200
+that should be their pride and joy and see the evil for what it has been that they will recover
+
+59:39.280 --> 59:44.320
+their courage and take a firm stand alongside me against the spectacular commitment to line
+
+59:45.200 --> 59:54.240
+and say no more of this abject nonsense. Thank you. He said it twice, baby. He said it twice, baby.
+
+59:56.960 --> 59:59.040
+Thank you, Nick. Are there any questions from the floor?
+
+01:00:00.640 --> 01:00:05.520
+No, I know he's quoting me because he sent me a message about five days ago saying he thinks that's
+
+01:00:06.080 --> 01:00:09.840
+his new favorite phrase of mine is the spectacular commitment to lie.
+
+01:00:12.560 --> 01:00:18.800
+It's great. I don't see anybody with microphones. Why did you just stand up and shout out on
+
+01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:34.400
+Yes, he said it twice. One of the four papers that we obtained was the work of the behavioral
+
+01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:39.760
+science teams in the UK, the nudge units. If we run out of questions, I'm going to talk to you a
+
+01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:46.640
+little bit about that because it's fascinating. Carry on, Nick. Your base data, the presentation
+
+01:00:46.640 --> 01:00:52.400
+you showed. Have you, okay, first of all, we have to acknowledge that there were a lot of vaccines
+
+01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:59.760
+that were administered during the pandemic. So have you adjusted your slide with the actual
+
+01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:04.800
+vaccines at minister to people? Because obviously, if you look at the absolute number of address
+
+01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:08.800
+events, it would look great. Yeah, surprisingly, it doesn't make much difference. I mean,
+
+01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:11.840
+I've heard this quote as I actually made that quote as in months before, but what I was shocked
+
+01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:15.120
+to find out is how many vaccines I administered in America. It makes no difference to the broad
+
+01:01:15.120 --> 01:01:19.600
+findings. So the incidence rate here is orders of magnitude higher. You just think through it,
+
+01:01:19.600 --> 01:01:23.680
+you have 26 vaccines administered to every child born in America and a very high percentage of
+
+01:01:23.680 --> 01:01:27.360
+the population take flu vaccines every year. So there's billions of doses being handed out.
+
+01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:32.640
+It doesn't take away this money. I think it's actually helpful to show those stats because
+
+01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:38.880
+when you present a slide like that without the exposure, it is not helpful at all. It is not
+
+01:01:39.680 --> 01:01:43.840
+objective. And when you say it like that, how are we supposed to know that there is a real
+
+01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:48.320
+difference? There are all sorts of things going on in that data. They're changing attention rates,
+
+01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:51.840
+changing age groups and everything. It's a signaling system, not an observational study,
+
+01:01:51.840 --> 01:01:57.120
+so it's not meant to infer a death rate. Only somewhere between 1% and 10% of vaccine injuries
+
+01:01:57.120 --> 01:02:01.600
+and deaths respectively end up on the system. They know that. That's been documented.
+
+01:02:01.600 --> 01:02:06.480
+So it's an early warning signal, and I'm not making a claim that this is something that you
+
+01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:10.560
+can infer a mortality rate from. Nobody can make that claim. But the point is that that signal,
+
+01:02:10.560 --> 01:02:14.960
+which is designed to be reacted to immediately as you get something like that, was completely
+
+01:02:14.960 --> 01:02:22.240
+ignored. That's the problem now. Well done. Nick, two just quick things. So you started
+
+01:02:22.240 --> 01:02:26.160
+commenting on the Sweden mortality and the 10-year average. So I just went into a quick
+
+01:02:26.160 --> 01:02:30.400
+check on a couple of sites. And the numbers don't seem to tie up with what I heard you say.
+
+01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:33.920
+So perhaps I got that wrong. If you would follow that up with a written confirmation,
+
+01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:40.320
+that would be great. And the second thing was you had attributed the source to www.sars2acir.org,
+
+01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:44.000
+which is a website that doesn't exist. So again, if you could just provide some of the source
+
+01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:48.320
+material there, because I was worried that some of the comments you made about things being
+
+01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:52.240
+fantastical and all the rest of it might be well applied here, too.
+
+01:02:52.240 --> 01:02:56.240
+Yeah, that's no problem. I must have made a typo in the reference there. So I was just
+
+01:02:56.240 --> 01:03:00.800
+seeing it. Yeah, there should be an S on the end of that. Sorry. Yeah, what I will do for
+
+01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:05.120
+everybody's benefit is interested. I'm going to assemble a list of all the sources in this
+
+01:03:05.120 --> 01:03:08.320
+presentation, and just so you can kind of click and read two hearts content. I promise you, I'm not
+
+01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:13.840
+making anything up. I didn't quite hear the rest of your question. I'm sorry. It's very
+
+01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:18.480
+boomy. The sound up here was something that's unanswered there. No. Okay.
+
+01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:22.720
+Further questions? There we go.
+
+01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:29.920
+Hi. It's Rosanna Harris. Mine is not so much a question as a comment.
+
+01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:39.200
+So I guess I feel quite sad, actually, listening to this in a platform here and quite
+
+01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:45.600
+professionally disheartened. While some may have been locked away in their ivory towers trawling
+
+01:03:45.600 --> 01:03:51.840
+three secondary data and evidence, trying to desperately support an ill-conceived initial
+
+01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:58.960
+stance, I've been fortunate enough to be working with dedicated teams who have approached this
+
+01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:05.360
+problem with integrity and rigor and scientific curiosity to unpack the evidence and contribute
+
+01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:10.960
+to saving lives and saving the economy. I work for Discovery Health, and we administered just
+
+01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:16.640
+over six, just under six percent of the population on the schemes that we are under our administration.
+
+01:04:16.640 --> 01:04:24.480
+And for us, COVID was real. Our team was dealing with real world primary data. People who were sick,
+
+01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:30.560
+people who died, people who lost loved ones. There were 16,500 confirmed COVID deaths in our
+
+01:04:30.560 --> 01:04:34.160
+population, and we recorded a case fatality of two and a half percent, just under two and a half
+
+01:04:34.160 --> 01:04:39.360
+percent, and a hospital mortality rate of 15 and a half percent. That's one death for every six
+
+01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:45.680
+and a half admissions. Just under 82,000 of our members were admitted to hospital during COVID,
+
+01:04:45.680 --> 01:04:52.240
+and I assure you that there was not a conspiracy of doctors. There is no evidence in our data to
+
+01:04:52.240 --> 01:04:56.560
+support any conclusion that vaccines did more harm than good, quite the opposite, in fact.
+
+01:04:57.200 --> 01:05:02.400
+And transmission reduction was a valuable side effect of a program that was intended to protect
+
+01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:07.840
+people from severe illness and death. These are real numbers, and I can't help but feel the need
+
+01:05:07.840 --> 01:05:13.360
+to apologise to the many health professionals and everyone who worked tirelessly and selflessly
+
+01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:18.320
+during COVID, and to everyone who was affected themselves or their loved ones. Oh, he's getting
+
+01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:28.080
+ready. Oh, and there's clapping. Get him, Nick. Needless to say, this is not the first time I've
+
+01:05:28.080 --> 01:05:35.280
+heard such a speech, prepared, never responding to any of the analysis performed. Just to stop,
+
+01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:39.840
+apply your minds to the data. That is what actually is meant to do. How do we explain that in multiple
+
+01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:44.720
+regions around the planet, 2020 ended with very high zero positivity and no excess mortality?
+
+01:05:45.680 --> 01:05:50.960
+How can you explain that if we have a deadly virus on the loose and not an epidemic of catastrophic
+
+01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:59.200
+iterating standards of care? It's very hard. Germany ends up with 10 or 20% upwards in some areas
+
+01:05:59.200 --> 01:06:06.560
+and zero excess mortality at the end of 2020. Zero. And there are entire swathes of the planet
+
+01:06:06.560 --> 01:06:10.880
+that had exactly this outcome. And I take incredible exception to the idea that some are a volunteer
+
+01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:16.000
+organisation of academics who are forced to work in private because the cancel culture led by
+
+01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:23.440
+organisations such as Discovery is so intense that they cannot do honest work in their own
+
+01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:28.720
+organisations. Those people are working for no pay and tirelessly and putting themselves at
+
+01:06:28.720 --> 01:06:32.400
+great risk. There is no question in my mind. And this is not about a conspiracy theory,
+
+01:06:32.400 --> 01:06:36.400
+an immature approach to take towards a person who sits there presenting statistics. It's not
+
+01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:42.640
+a conspiracy theory. It's an alternative view. And we can engage. I'd love to engage on your data
+
+01:06:42.640 --> 01:06:47.280
+methodology, but you don't share it. An alternative view. Thank you so much, Nick. A wonderful
+
+01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:52.800
+plus for our presenters. It looks like this is all the time we have. Thank you so much, Nick.
+
+01:06:54.560 --> 01:06:59.280
+I think that's pretty good. I think Nick did really, really well.
+
+01:07:02.320 --> 01:07:09.920
+Congratulations to Nick Hudson, aka Mr. Spectacular. And I had tipped to Nick for using my phrase.
+
+01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:16.160
+Um, you know, just, I'll just show you because, you know, I can do that, I think.
+
+01:07:21.680 --> 01:07:32.160
+Just pull this out over here. I'll see if I can find, uh, messages. Nick.
+
+01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:39.280
+It's a spectacular commitment to lying. May turn out to be your best contribution to this saga so far.
+
+01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:45.520
+And you should not find that disappointing. It's a great phrase. That's what Nick said to me on
+
+01:07:45.520 --> 01:07:51.680
+October 3rd. And then he gave this talk, I think, on October 12th. So there you go. Um, there's no
+
+01:07:51.680 --> 01:07:56.880
+question that it's, that it's, uh, that it's, uh, that it's a, that it's a hat tip. And that's
+
+01:07:57.440 --> 01:08:01.440
+that it's, uh, that it's a hat tip. And that's really nice of him. And it's really,
+
+01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:07.680
+again, what are we talking about here? I put it on the bottom. I gave it the title, subtitle.
+
+01:08:07.680 --> 01:08:14.080
+And Nick Hudson brought his A game dog on it. Mr. Spectacular. I mean, he didn't let me down
+
+01:08:14.080 --> 01:08:21.760
+at all. Way to go, Nick. So this illusion of consensus is starting to break. That's what I think.
+
+01:08:22.720 --> 01:08:29.520
+I think this illusion of consensus is starting to break. And even though the illusion of consensus
+
+01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:35.280
+was about this mystery disease down here in red, we're starting to understand that with bad
+
+01:08:35.280 --> 01:08:43.760
+protocols and with bad tests, you can rope in, you can create the bursts of excess mortality,
+
+01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:49.520
+the appearance of excess mortality that you need in order to tell the story that you want to tell.
+
+01:08:50.240 --> 01:08:56.560
+And smeared around the map a little bit. And now nobody notices until Denny or Nick or anybody
+
+01:08:56.560 --> 01:09:02.400
+else crunches the numbers and realizes that the death and the disease didn't spread across borders
+
+01:09:03.280 --> 01:09:09.840
+that it had more to do with people's income had more to do with so many other things other than
+
+01:09:09.840 --> 01:09:16.480
+their symptomology. And that's really the problem because they declared the who declared a dangerous
+
+01:09:16.480 --> 01:09:24.800
+novel virus pandemic that everybody was vulnerable to. A guy that he said was guilty of human rights
+
+01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:30.640
+violations. I got to look that up that I just recorded an old video of him today for a future
+
+01:09:30.640 --> 01:09:37.360
+show in my archive. I didn't know he was a bad guy like that. Anyway, a clone could have been used.
+
+01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:45.680
+I see Jiki still on the clone kick. He's still figuring out that really all RNA virology is cloning
+
+01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:53.920
+and all RNA virology would collapse if we didn't have recombinant DNA to use to make RNA infectious
+
+01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:59.280
+clones of all these things. It's really a standard methodology and the only source
+
+01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:05.600
+of a pandemic that is blamed on a single sequence. The surrender of individual sovereignty and the
+
+01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:10.640
+enforcement of an inversion from basic human rights to basic granted permissions is the goal
+
+01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:16.240
+of this little charade. The way that they're going to do it is they fooled you, of course,
+
+01:10:16.240 --> 01:10:20.800
+about the pandemic potential that's in nature. And there's a consensus that we could even,
+
+01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:25.760
+you know, sew things together and make more pandemic potential than Mother Nature can herself.
+
+01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:32.720
+Again, it's to invert your kid's minds. Invert the way that your kids think about their role
+
+01:10:33.360 --> 01:10:40.080
+in nature, their place in nature. It is to invert the way that their your kids should think about
+
+01:10:40.160 --> 01:10:46.560
+their immune system and should think about the temple that is their body. It doesn't need augmenting
+
+01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:52.880
+willy-nilly. We tell our kids that they shouldn't smoke marijuana or they shouldn't, you know,
+
+01:10:53.600 --> 01:11:00.560
+drink beer, but it's fine to inject a random combination of substances made by a pharmaceutical
+
+01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:04.000
+company into your muscle to augment your immune system. That'll be fine.
+
+01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:16.080
+And this illusion of consensus spread to the point where they created this orchestrated
+
+01:11:16.080 --> 01:11:25.200
+argument across nations and across languages and across cultures about who's responsible for
+
+01:11:25.200 --> 01:11:30.560
+leaking this virus. Who's responsible for lying? Who funded it? Where did it come from? Was it
+
+01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:35.840
+leaked in Ukraine? Or did it leak in China? Or did somebody spread it all around the earth?
+
+01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:39.920
+What a crazy thing we've had to solve for the last three years.
+
+01:11:42.320 --> 01:11:47.840
+And while we were solving that, we didn't realize that they changed the way we fundamentally thought
+
+01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:57.520
+about our immune system, disease, how it spreads, the potential for pandemic, what vaccination means,
+
+01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:04.640
+what it should do. And they just glossed over everything with either stupid, complicated,
+
+01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:11.360
+or dumb, simple. And in so doing, this enchantment of this Scooby-Doo allowed people to be killed by
+
+01:12:11.360 --> 01:12:17.760
+ventilators, medazolam, remdesivir, all the things that Nick talked about perfectly. Way to go,
+
+01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:27.120
+Mr. Spectacular. And so the general gist of the Scooby-Doo is that you're supposed to be thinking about a
+
+01:12:27.120 --> 01:12:33.840
+laboratory leak or a laboratory leak that was originally from a bad cave or a bad cave virus
+
+01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:39.840
+that had the potential for a pandemic all by itself, or the possibility that a lab leak of a virus
+
+01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:45.920
+that was sewn together could have even more pandemic potential than a bad virus would. You're
+
+01:12:45.920 --> 01:12:51.360
+just not supposed to think about the fact that they could make a lot of a clone and spread it around
+
+01:12:51.360 --> 01:12:57.280
+the world. And that'd be a real easy way for this to happen, especially if there was a background
+
+01:12:57.280 --> 01:13:05.840
+signal of RNA all over the place that this PCR test would be confused by. I think that's what
+
+01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:11.520
+they did. It's mostly lying. It's a background signal and lying. And that's why the protocols
+
+01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:15.920
+are murder and transfection is in medicine, you can call it an infectious clone release,
+
+01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:21.920
+you can call it a transfection agent, you can call whatever you want to. Just don't say that
+
+01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:28.720
+there are no viruses because that's ridiculous. There are definitely infectious clones. And so
+
+01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:36.240
+called a conflated background signal that was confounded by a infectious clone release. And now
+
+01:13:36.240 --> 01:13:41.920
+you have the perfect scenario where all the molecular biology lines up, all the PCR can be
+
+01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:47.520
+explained, all the symptomology goes away, and all of the deaths are murder.
+
+01:13:50.160 --> 01:13:54.640
+And the reason why we're here is because they really want to in birth the way that our kids think
+
+01:13:54.640 --> 01:14:07.440
+about their, their, what is the right word? What they owe to society, I can't think of their,
+
+01:14:08.080 --> 01:14:16.000
+their, why is my brain blank on that? But we are trying to change the way that our children think
+
+01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:25.520
+about our obligations to society. And the idea that we should feel obligated to be clean,
+
+01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:32.480
+the obligated to follow public health measures that keep everybody else safe, and that our
+
+01:14:32.480 --> 01:14:40.400
+safety is dependent on one another. That's a fundamental inversion of how we usually would think
+
+01:14:40.400 --> 01:14:48.640
+about disease and health in a free society. It's a fundamental inversion of what freedom means,
+
+01:14:48.640 --> 01:14:53.600
+because essentially it means that even if the technocrats get it wrong, you have to follow the
+
+01:14:53.600 --> 01:15:02.000
+rules until we get it right. That's not freedom. And we cannot lie to our children, we cannot let
+
+01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:07.680
+these TV people lie to our children about what's at stake, because this is the last 50 years,
+
+01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:17.680
+or last 70 years of 10 billion humans. And then it's going to start going down pretty fast.
+
+01:15:19.120 --> 01:15:23.280
+And it's going to be pretty rough ride, because there's going to be a lot of old people and not
+
+01:15:23.280 --> 01:15:29.920
+enough young people to support them all. So a lot of these countries that have an inverted population
+
+01:15:29.920 --> 01:15:35.600
+pyramid are in big trouble over the next 50 years, and they kind of know it. And so they need to
+
+01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:39.920
+take advantage of the crisis that's coming, they need to take advantage of the shift that's coming,
+
+01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:48.560
+and the crisis is also financial. As JC in the woods said so eloquently March 11th 2020,
+
+01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:56.240
+we watched that yesterday. Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances,
+
+01:15:56.240 --> 01:16:02.560
+as I said, transfection is not immunization. Please stop all transfections in humans. And that's
+
+01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:12.560
+really full stop. Now I'm going to try and eliminate the control group by any means necessary.
+
+01:16:17.280 --> 01:16:21.840
+Still, I'm trying to plug the broken science initiative. I want to get a few of them on. I'm
+
+01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:27.440
+going to have map rigs on, and I'm going to have a few. Maybe I can get great to come on. Who knows?
+
+01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:33.840
+Yeah, this has been good going biological. It's a weird ending, I guess. But you know, it's
+
+01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:39.680
+I'm not going to lie to you. I'm getting tired. I don't know how many days in a row this is. We're
+
+01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:48.080
+approaching 35 or 36. I'm getting a little tired. So I'm hoping that moving the streams earlier
+
+01:16:48.080 --> 01:16:54.080
+in the night so that I can get in bed and get to sleep and then get up earlier was going to help.
+
+01:16:54.080 --> 01:16:59.840
+I hope that playing basketball more is going to help my voice. I don't know, we're just going
+
+01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:02.880
+to keep working. I'm going to keep trying to come every day because this is really
+
+01:17:03.680 --> 01:17:10.080
+I think good for me and good for you guys. But thanks for joining me. And like I said, I'll see you tomorrow.
+
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+You
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+schedule for 16 minutes next.
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+It's going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television.
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+People everywhere are starting to listen to him.
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+02:08.000 --> 02:09.000
+It's embarrassing.
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+Well, I can't thank you kids enough.
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+02:16.000 --> 02:18.000
+Shaggy should get most of the credit.
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+02:18.000 --> 02:20.000
+Where is Shaggy?
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+02:22.000 --> 02:24.000
+Oh, no, not again.
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+02:25.000 --> 02:28.000
+It looks like Shaggy wants to try it for the eight-man role in the picture.
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+02:29.000 --> 02:30.000
+Arise!
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+02:31.000 --> 02:33.000
+But there's Scooby doing the other chair.
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+02:35.000 --> 02:36.000
+Surprise!
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+02:36.000 --> 02:39.000
+It's the Scooby hat the eight-band was wearing.
+
+02:42.000 --> 02:44.000
+Now, there's real talent.
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+02:47.000 --> 02:50.000
+We sure fooled him, Scooby. We ought to be in the movies.
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+Spare!
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+Show me where we go!
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+Would you understand to join the city of the eight?
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+Yes.
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+Yes.
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+03:26.000 --> 03:28.000
+Two days ago, one-time state of the eight?
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+Would you understand to join the city of the eight?
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+03:34.000 --> 03:35.000
+Yes.
+
+03:35.000 --> 03:36.000
+Yes.
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+03:36.000 --> 03:37.000
+Two days ago, one-time state of the eight?
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+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
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+03:47.000 --> 03:49.000
+Welcome to Giga home biological entire resistance.
+
+03:49.000 --> 03:50.760
+I resisted slow noise information.
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+03:50.760 --> 03:54.240
+We brought to you by a raspy voice biologist.
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+It's the 14th of October, 2023.
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+The bottom of the holy weapon.
+
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+Peace.
+
+04:01.480 --> 04:11.480
+The bottom of the holy weapon.
+
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+Peace.
+
+05:01.480 --> 05:31.000
+A little slow there on the, on the draw.
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+I apologize for that cut.
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+Yeah, so I got a pretty sore throat, some sore ears.
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+I'm not really sure where that came from, but I'm not going to talk very much tonight.
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+He's not very loud.
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+I'm not going to get very angry.
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+I'm trying to give my voice a little bit of a rest.
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+My blower is still on back there.
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+So I'm not sure how long that's going to run, but I'll just leave it there for now.
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+If it gets annoying after a while, I can take it down.
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+Don't take the bait on TV and social media, of course.
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+We're still trying to solve this mystery of Scooby-Doo.
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+Looks like this one's a little bit out of alignment or something here.
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+Need to move it.
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+Yeah, see, it was just one out.
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+There we go.
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+Yeah, we're still getting tricked into solving this mystery tonight.
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+I've got a couple of interesting examples of, I guess, surprisingly on point Scooby-Doo plays.
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+Things in people that I didn't think would do it, and it's so late in the game.
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+If my throat felt better, I was going to watch a movie, an interview rather with Jessica Rose
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+on Amadmalaik's podcast.
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+It's exceptionally interesting, but I don't have the endurance for it tonight.
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+So I will skip that tonight.
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+Why did that stop there?
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+So we're still trying to get through this illusion that's been created by all these people on the Internet
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+and annoying.
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+They definitely are.
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+But nonetheless, this is where we are.
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+They've created this illusion, and the illusion has been done so well that the almost entire planet has been tricked into solving a mystery that we never needed to solve.
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+But in being tricked and accepting the challenge of solving the mystery, we've also accepted the mystery's premises, which are that there's a novel virus that everybody was vulnerable to.
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+That we had to do something, including lockdown masks and vaccines.
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+And if the vaccines wouldn't have been rushed, they would be spectacular.
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+But they saved 20 million lives already.
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+And there's definitely going to be another one of these because gain of function is real.
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+And so by solving the Scooby-Doo mystery that all these people, including myself, tricked ourselves into solving, we have accepted those premises of the faith.
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+And until very recently, I was under the same spell that everybody else was under.
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+And now I'm desperately trying to wake people up as you are to this illusion.
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+And it's an illusion of consensus that all these people agree on something.
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+And what do they agree on?
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+They don't even actually say it.
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+That's the crazy part.
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+But you have to solve it.
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+You have to see what they don't talk about.
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+You have to see what they avoid talking about.
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+And then they all share a pattern.
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+And so in trying to penetrate this illusion of consensus, we've identified people like Mick Hudson and Peter McCullough that have either been consistent or even in their inconsistencies have been aiming toward the truth.
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+And it's been very hard to find people that have gotten to the stage where they can freely admit that, you know, maybe intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system on behalf of the immune system.
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+On behalf of the CDC in America is pretty dumb.
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+Taking advice from the CDC about how to augment your immune system is probably pretty dumb.
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+And I assure you, transfection is not immunization.
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+And so we've been talking a lot about it not being a matter of what's true, but what's perceived to be true.
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+And yesterday I queued in on this idea of, you know, a tunnel on a screen. There goes the blower.
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+Oh, no, I can finally hear again.
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+If we if we think about this as an illusion, then these people back here have essentially helped in creating an illusion very much like a tunnel but a tunnel in time and space.
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+And experience that was on our TVs, in our social media feeds and on our telephones, on our iPads.
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+And not much different than the thing that we were just watching here.
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+Except what streaming past you are Facebook posts.
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+And an illusion of consensus which led us to believe that, okay, we got to keep walking this way, watch out for that. Look out.
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+Here we go. Stay behind Robert Malone. He's a smart guy.
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+Listen to Tony Fauci. He knows what he's been there for 38 years. He's got to know what's going on.
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+And it doesn't matter what side of the ball you were on, you were being led by someone down this imaginary tunnel and told not to look too closely at the walls.
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+Don't bother to check. Trust us. Just keep going.
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+And it's this spectacular that there is something about this injection.
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+This spectacular commitment to lies that we've got a break. Now, Daniel Nagasi is a really interesting fellow because I believe he has been on Kevin McCarran's show before.
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+He was very early out in Canada speaking out about these shots.
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+But when I tried to contact him, he basically accused me of being a no virus guy when I said there wasn't any spread.
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+And later on, he kind of backpedaled a little bit after I tried to explain who I was and what I really meant.
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+But he didn't want to waste his time coming on Gigome and didn't really want to talk to me anymore.
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+Now, I find him an interesting and puzzling guy because when I first saw him on the Internet, I thought we were basically the same dude, one in Canada and one in Pittsburgh.
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+But then after not being able to get in touch with him at all, like with repeated.
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+After that was cleared up again, we weren't communicating anymore.
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+But now I saw this video where he had testified with what's his name?
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+But this thing over in Europe, I've also testified for them.
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+And he made a very interesting set of comments about the contents of the shot related to graphene, which as far as I know, Kevin McCarran, that was one of the things on his list from the very, very beginning, was there is no 5G in the virus and there's no 5G in the shot
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+and there's no graphene in the shot and even looked at it under the microscope to prove to everybody that there was no graphene or hydras.
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+And so I find it very interesting and I wonder if Daniel and Kevin McCarran will get together and talk again about this, this new idea or revelation in Daniel Legassi's mind. Listen carefully.
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+That is vitally important to their agenda.
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+They have to take away bodily autonomy.
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+So I don't know.
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+It makes me think that there is something about this injection that is vitally important to their agenda.
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+They have to take away bodily autonomy.
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+So I don't know what's in the injection, but you know, if you have self polymerizing carbon fiber, that can act as an antenna.
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+Graphene has electrical properties.
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+And then I have to question why there's all these purple streetlights showing up at important intersections all over Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton.
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+And you also have these purple ultraviolet streetlights on all the major highways at the choke points between the border of Alberta and BC.
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+Now, the only thing I can say about the purple streetlight is back from the 90s when I was doing cell biology is if you wanted to check to see whether a gene was successfully spliced into a bacteria or a yeast, you could use ultraviolet light to see whether the gene splicing occurred.
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+So the big question in my mind is, are these purple streetlights being put up at certain intervals throughout the city to create 15 minute zone.
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+And then if you try and cross the border within a city that they will be able to verify your vaccine status using the ultraviolet light.
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+Now, that being said, it's pretty hard because skin has a lot of keratin, right? So the blood flow doesn't go very close to the skin. So it would be very difficult to detect fluorescence on skin.
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+But I'm sure everyone's aware that when it's dark, you can see cat's eyes glow in the dark.
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+And that's because the cat eye collects enough light, even very ambient light when they even when it seems dark to us that it can reflect that light outward human eyes are similar, just not as effective as cat eyes.
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+So again, if you have a block where it's dark, because the only streetlights are ultraviolet and someone's walking down the street, you probably will be able to detect whether or not they have a fluorescent protein, because it would be circulating
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+in the circulation of the retina at the back of the eye.
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+So I don't know what resolution of video camera you need, a 4K or an 8K with a night enhancement version.
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+But I suspect you might be able to see through the reflection, you know, the red eye that you sometimes get when you have a camera flash.
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+A variation of that might be able to detect if people have been vaccinated or genetically altered at every intersection in a city.
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+So that's a pretty weird turn right I mean, I'm not going to speculate on whether or not these technologies could exist or can exist I think you need an awful lot of fluorescent protein and circulation to be able to detect it in your eye.
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+I don't think he exactly explained the way a cat eyes reflectivity works.
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+It's a strange thing.
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+And that discussion is longer.
+
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+But the point is, is that where are we going?
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+We're still going toward confusion.
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+He's not questioning the narrative.
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+He's not questioning the main faith, which is that there was a novel virus that got released and ran around the world and we had to do something and the mRNA did a lot but it could have been better because we rushed it.
+
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+It's going to come again because this was gain of function.
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+And that's what we really should be questioning right now.
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+And if we're not, I think we're playing games and so it's really to me.
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+I think we got to be very careful at this stage not to be distracted.
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+And again, you know, directed back into the cave.
+
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+We got to keep looking for the exit.
+
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+I think we're in the middle of an ongoing crime.
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+I've no idea how long it's going to last.
+
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+I think it's, I'm convinced that it will be the biggest crime in history.
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+It's global.
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+It has the intent of control, removing everybody's freedom and I personally think will involve killing for the millions, if not billions of people.
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+That makes it a pretty big competitive for the title worst crime in history.
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+It is long plans.
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+I won't bore you with the details, but I've definitely come across information that shows that the components of the receipts that they've used, you know, PCR, exaggerated PCR testing, the use of fear based messaging through the media.
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+This stuff's been rehearsed by militaries and the people we might think of as the spooks for at least 25 years and possibly longer.
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+So it's long plan. Very serious.
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+Here's the thing why I'm calling you to arm.
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+It's not going to return to the old normal one.
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+That's never their intention.
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+So it's not going to happen passively because it's not risen to an actual phenomenon that's going to wear off.
+
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+They're not going to allow it to return to normal.
+
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+So if you comply with this tyranny, it will end with the loss of your liberty and probably your life.
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+The supply chains that move materials, raw materials and finished goods around the world are being sworn through on a global scale.
+
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+You only got to look at where the shipping is where it should be and where it actually is.
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+And terrifyingly, the same is happening to food production worldwide food and fertiliser production.
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+It's in the wrong place.
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+It's deliberate.
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+They're smashing the means of manufacturing enough calories to keep 7.8 billion people alive.
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+And where do you think that's going to end?
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+Well, the answer is mass starvation or a global migration.
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+That's what's going to happen if you and everybody else choose to do nothing at all.
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+Also, economic instruction, we can see happening around us, interest rates will rise on the back of huge debts that will just cause mass bankruptcies, rolling recessions, depressions, things like that.
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+And I would also imagine loss of confidence in the very thing called money.
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+So any savings you've got, I think they'll just vanish.
+
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+Literally, people will just say, I no longer trust sterling.
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+I don't want to accept it.
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+And so all your savings are worth nothing.
+
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+So if you wait, I believe it will be too late.
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+I think you already know that I'm broadly telling you something that's closer to the reality than what government's telling me.
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+But I believe that we can head off the worst crimes in history by actively withdrawing our consent and definitely not accepting these digital ID for any reason, any reason.
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+If you accept it, they will sweep over us.
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+And so just the last few words, I implore you to get involved to use some of what I and others are saying to you.
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+Be brave, actually, you have to be brave now and risk embarrassment and recruit other people to this cause, and we can roll them over.
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+Yes, I believe this is true.
+
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+I've got two short videos to watch.
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+One is a secret pocket from the World Council of Health.
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+And one is a comedy video called the spy who poisoned me.
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+And you might remember this lady from another semi viral video that she did about masks and lockdowns and other stuff.
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+I actually think this might be a clue over here, this spilled vase.
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+I'm just saying, I don't know if I trust this person, but let's listen to secret first and then we'll end with that lady.
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+And then I'll take a early evening.
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+Our next speaker tonight is one of my personal heroes of this time of this time.
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+A shining light in this time of darkness professor.
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+A specialist in microbiology and infectious disease epidemiology professor emeritus of the Johannes Gutenberg University in mines.
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+Head of the Institute for medical microbiology and hygiene there from 1991 to 2012.
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+And he's a founder and chairman of the M and WTFD, a society of physicians and scientists for health.
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+Freedom and democracy is an association of physicians and other medically active persons with scientists.
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+We're engaged in research and teaching on the topics of health, freedom and democracy in order to serve the health and social welfare of the population.
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+Of course, we could add a lot more to this biography here, but I'll hand it over to you.
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+Welcome, professor, please go ahead and you're listening to your words.
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+Thank you. Well, I was asked to take a break from top science and talk to you in lay language about the,
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+if you an overview about the dangers, can vaccine dating, contamination, all to algae.
+
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+No man promotes cannabis, that's the topic to go for.
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+So any school child, 14 year old will understand, and this is what I'm going to try to do in 10 minutes.
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+Now, the genome is the entire set of DNA instructions found in the cell packaged in chromosomes, the books of life, that are safeguarded in the cell nucleus.
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+When a recipe for a product, let's say a cake is required.
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+The book is opened at the right page and a copy of the recipe is made that is sent to the manufacturing site, the bakery, in the cell.
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+The cake and tasty bits thereof are placed for inspection on the windowsill of the cell.
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+Having fulfilled its purpose, the copied recipe, mRNA, is disposed of.
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+RNA vaccines are such short lived copies of chromosomal recipes that direct the production of selected pathogens, like the spike protein.
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+More than 1 billion copies are administered with each injection into the human body.
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+Mass production of mRNA requires mass ability of the DNA templates.
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+How can this be achieved?
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+You have just heard that this is done because the billions and trillions of copies of the DNA recipes are derived.
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+So did you already catch it?
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+Or did you miss it?
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+Because he's trying to get everything into 10 minutes. He's doing it really fast.
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+He says the DNA is all the code of your life is stored in the nucleus.
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+If you need anything out of that code, part of the code that contains the recipe that you need is translated into RNA and shipped to the bakery.
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+The RNA is a very short lived message.
+
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+Then he transitioned right away to say that these mRNA vaccines are very short lived messages. Listen carefully.
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+You've got to hear everything. You've got to listen to everything to know the message.
+
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+Any school child, 14-year-old, will understand, and this is what I'm going to try to do in 10 minutes.
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+Now the genome is the entire set of DNA instructions found in itself, packaged in chromosomes, the books of life, that are safeguarded in the cell nucleus.
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+When a recipe for a product, let's say a cake is required.
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+The book is opened at the right page and a copy of the recipe is made that is sent to the manufacturing site, the bakery, in the cell.
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+The cake and tasty bits thereof are placed for inspection on the windowsill of the cell.
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+Having fulfilled its purpose, the copied...
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+That was nice. The tasty bits of the cake are displayed on the windowsill of the cell. That's like an MHC presentation. That's very clever.
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+So great.
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+The recipe, mRNA, is disposed of. RNA vaccines are such short-lived copies of chromosomal recipes that direct the production of selected antigens, like the spike protein.
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+Did you hear the words he chose? That was terrible.
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+mRNA vaccines are short copies of chromosomal what?
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+Holy cow. Listen to that.
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+I'll lose my voice tonight. I didn't even hear this yet. I'm a little shocked. Come on, Sucre. You can do better than this.
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+Acry in the cell. The cake and tasty bits thereof are placed for inspection on the windowsill of the cell.
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+Having fulfilled its purpose, the copied recipe, mRNA, is disposed of.
+
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+RNA vaccines are such short-lived copies of chromosomal recipes that direct the production of selected antigens, like the spike protein.
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+More than 1 billion copies are administered with each injection into the human body.
+
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+Mass production of mRNA requires mass availability of the DNA templates. How can this be achieved?
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+You have just heard that this is done because the billions and trillions of copies of the DNA recipes are derived from bacteria.
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+The recipes are contained in minute bacterial chromosomes that attract plasmids. Plasmids are easily manipulated.
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+Foreign recipes, like the genes encoding for viral proteins, can be inserted.
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+Following bacterial multiplication, the plasmids are harvested and used as templates for production of the RNA copies.
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+The RNA molecules are then packaged into tiny fatty globules termed lipid nanoparticles.
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+The packaging material is essential to protect RNA from destruction so that it can travel in the bloodstream to reach all organs of the body.
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+There, the lipid nanoparticles act as Trojan horses. They are taken up by cells, their cargo is released within, and the recipes direct production of the gene product that is displayed on the windowsill.
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+What everyone simply must know is that outside the cell, security guards.
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+So it's displayed on the windowsill, he said again, but it's not the same.
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+It's not the same as being displayed on MHC1. This is actually expressed on the outside of the cell, which again, with regard to normal RNA, is not the case.
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+Normal RNA, you might make RNA for an ion channel, and then if the cell reports that protein expression, it's going to report a cell antigen taken from that and displayed on MHC1.
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+It doesn't have to go to the cell service.
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+There's some strange imprecision here, maybe just because he's trying really hard to get this all into one paragraph, and he's reading it, but there's some pretty big mistakes or at least some pretty large examples of imprecision.
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+I'm not darn it.
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+But on the watch, all is well, when a cake is produced according to a recipe originating from one's own book of life.
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+You don't need to get angry.
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+I'm not saying he's a bad guy. I learned all my terminology about the shots and the way that they work from the perspective of the good way, the cartoon way from him.
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+He's saying that now he's got the opportunity to tell everybody everything about the shot, and unfortunately he's been distracted into believing that the DNA contamination is somehow thousands of times worse than the transfection ever was.
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+And I think that's a mistake.
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+It might be bad. It might be very bad, but transfection was very bad.
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+And so to add this on top is what he should do.
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+He should explain the biology of transfection and why it's bad, and then say, and in order to make this for everybody, we made it even worse.
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+That's the point. And you can't read something like this and read it really fast in a language that's not your first tongue and put sarcasm in there that people are going to get, which he's done a couple times now, which is kind of funny, but it's kind of not because nobody's going to get that.
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+Sarcasm in second language is not, you know, it's not the most universal thing.
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+You need to chill out. I'm such a flog.
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+You're just having trouble with the fact that everybody on Earth has been Scooby-Dooed, and there aren't very many people who can see it.
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+Even me and him, when we were on the same page in 2020, we're Scooby-Dooed.
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+Because we still believed in a virus that flew around the world and he does too.
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+And that's what we've got to be careful of. That's what this is about.
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+And if we're going to do it, we've got to be precise about this, and we can't say that the RNA vaccines are short-lived.
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+Are they short-lived?
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+Sucred Bakti knows that they're not short-lived. He did journal clubs on those papers.
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+So then why is he saying it?
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+Why is he calling RNA vaccines short-lived chromosomal recipes?
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+We're going to get out of this. We can't keep making mistakes like this, where people like Debunk the Funk can use this video against him.
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+And other people will say, well, Debunk the Funk kind of knows what he's talking about because that jives with it I know.
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+Get a grip. I'm not doing this for ego.
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+I'd rather be upstairs watching Rocky with my kids.
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+But I think that this is for them too. This is really important.
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+We are about to drop the ball here. We're at the goal line, you know, and it's like third in goal. We got one more mistake.
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+One genome, but whoa, if the recipe originates from an alien book, then the security guards, our immune system, will leap into action and attack that cell.
+
+32:55.000 --> 33:04.000
+The capacity of the immune system to recognize and eliminate cells that manufacture non-self is given at birth and ends at death.
+
+33:05.000 --> 33:15.000
+Reflect on transplant rejection. You get my kidney, you reject my kidney. Non-self is not tolerated even within the same species of humans.
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+And if after first failure, a repeat attempt is made, you get my second kidney, an explosive rejection followers, fast and furious.
+
+33:27.000 --> 33:36.000
+The same principle underlies the ever-increasing intensity of adverse events following in the wake of booster RNA injections.
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+33:37.000 --> 33:51.000
+The numbers of packaged RNA coffees administered with each injection are gigantic, myriad immune attack events will erupt throughout the body that can only hold when production of the alien protein comes to an end.
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+How long will this take? Just a few days as the vaccine manufacturers, the vaccine perpetrators, and recently the Nobel Prize Committee are not weary to assert an alarming finding surfaced over the past year that was not consolable with that assertion.
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+Spike protein and multi-organ inflammation was detected in vaccine leaves weeks and even months after the injections.
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+This was associated with severe and often fatal illness. What earthly reason could there have been and could there still be for such disastrous long-lasting production of an RNA encoded protein?
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+34:35.000 --> 34:44.000
+The discovering of contaminating plasmic DNA in the vaccines by Kevin McCurnan and colleagues immediately provides one terrifying explanation.
+
+34:45.000 --> 34:55.000
+In the vaccine production process, the plasmic DNA templates must be removed from the generated mRNA before the latter is packaged into the lipid nano.
+
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+So I misunderstood him. So he was saying something here that must have not jive because he said almost everything right. It was really good.
+
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+But he must have said something about the long-lived spike protein and not the long-lived RNA.
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+35:13.000 --> 35:19.000
+And then now he's explaining the long-lived spike protein with the DNA contamination. I got to listen again. I'm sorry. I missed it.
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+Tell security guards are on the watch. All is well. When a cake is produced according to a recipe originating from one's own book of life, one's own genome.
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+35:31.000 --> 35:41.000
+But whoa, if the recipe originates from an alien book, then the security guards, our immune system, will leap into action and attack that cell.
+
+35:42.000 --> 35:51.000
+The capacity of the immune system to recognize and eliminate cells that manufacture non-self is given at birth and ends at death.
+
+35:52.000 --> 36:02.000
+Reflect on transplant rejection. You get my kidney, you reject my kidney. Non-self is not tolerated even within the same species of humans.
+
+36:03.000 --> 36:13.000
+And if after first failure, a repeat attempt is made, you get my second kidney and explosive rejection followers, fast and furious.
+
+36:14.000 --> 36:23.000
+The same principle underlies the ever-increasing intensity of adverse events following in the wake of booster RNA injections.
+
+36:24.000 --> 36:38.000
+The numbers of packaged RNA copies administered with each injection are gigantic, myriad immune attack events, will erupt throughout the body that can only halt when production of the alien protein comes to an end.
+
+36:39.000 --> 36:50.000
+How long will this take? Just a few days as the vaccine manufacturers, the vaccine perpetrators, and recently the Nobel Prize Committee are not weary to assert.
+
+36:51.000 --> 36:58.000
+An alarming finding surfaced over the past year that was not consilable with that assertion.
+
+36:59.000 --> 37:07.000
+Spike protein and multi-organ inflammation was detected in vaccinees weeks and even months after the injections.
+
+37:08.000 --> 37:14.000
+This was associated with severe and often fatal illness. What earthly reason could there have been a assertion?
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+37:14.000 --> 37:23.000
+Spike protein and multi-organ inflammation was detected in vaccinees weeks and even months after the injections.
+
+37:24.000 --> 37:31.000
+So technically he is going to blame that spike protein on the DNA, or at least this is the explanation he's accepting it.
+
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+I'm not saying that he doesn't see the other part, but...
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+associated with severe and often fatal illness. What earthly reason could there have been and could there still be for such disastrous long-lasting production of an RNA encoded protein?
+
+37:50.000 --> 37:59.000
+The discovering of contaminating plasmic DNA in the vaccines by Kevin MacKernan and colleagues immediately provides one terrifying explanation.
+
+38:00.000 --> 38:11.000
+In the vaccine production process, the plasmic DNA templates must be removed from the generated mRNA before the latter is packaged into the lipid nanoparticles.
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+Otherwise, plasmids will also end up in the packages. Kevin MacKernan discovered that this crucial step of removing plasmic DNA had not been assiduously undertaken.
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+Huge amounts of plasmic DNA were found in packaged form that guaranteed their successful delivery to cells. Kevin's work has been replicated now in other laboratories, several are represented at today's panel.
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+Cell uptake of whole or fragmented plasmids alters the entire set of DNA instructions and by definition equates with alteration of the genome,
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+38:52.000 --> 39:06.000
+keyed that the nuclear envelope breaks down when the cell divides so that foreign DNA can gain proximity to and become encased with chromosomes in newly formed nuclei of daughter cells.
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+Whole recipes will cause production of whole products and continued production of any non-cell protein will provoke long-term information and organ damage throughout the body.
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+Vessel walls will be damaged. Bleeding and blood clot formation are inevitable consequences. Tissues will die for lack of oxygen. The heart is one organ that cannot replace dead cells.
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+Who has not heard of the mysterious sudden cardiac deaths that are occurring around the world? They are only the tip of an iceberg.
+
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+Vaccine induced heart disease has entered the daily agenda of young and old.
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+The second organ that cannot replace its dead is the brain, depending on where a vaccine damage is done, any neurological and psychiatric affliction may follow.
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+In a similar fashion autoimmune diseases can develop simultaneously in different organs.
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+This multifaceted feature of vaccination induced injury is unique and tellingly illustrated in the tragic case of a 14-year-old child who died of multi-organ inflammation as has never been seen before.
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+The potential of vaccination to negatively impact on fertility and reproduction is enormous. The vaccines accumulate in the reproductive organs and this could immediately impair fertility.
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+Uptake of circulating RNA and DNA by cells of the placenta could result in stillbirths. The central damage may also enable the packaged genes to enter the fetal circulation.
+
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+Indeed it is known that stem cells in umbilical cord blood are reduced and impaired following vaccination.
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+And it must be feared that this is because the baby is reached in the mother's womb.
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+The flat fat globules with their carol are also known to find their way into breast milk.
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+That permeability is high during the first weeks after birth and the real possibility exists that breastfeeding will result in direct passage of vaccines into the baby's blood, where suicide mechanisms may be triggered.
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+Never forget the capacity of the immune system to recognize and destroy cells that produce alien proteins is given at birth.
+
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+The incredible horror story does not end here.
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+Packaged DNA fragments have been found en masse as vaccine contaminants.
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+Once they reach the nucleus, short DNA sequences have an increased propensity to insert into chromosomal DNA.
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+The possible consequences are unending.
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+Disruption of the exquisitely tuned network that controls cell division and differentiation can lead to cancer and to developmental defects.
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+Mutations in sperm and fertilized egg cells could render altered traits inheritable.
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+Cost-effective procedures to reliably separate mass-produced RNA from plasmids do not exist.
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+Contamination of RNA vaccines with plasmid DNA must therefore be expected to be the rule and not the exception.
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+Whoever propagates RNA vaccines as being safe and effective, whoever claims that nothing can happen to your genome is either incredibly ignorant or endlessly evil.
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+That person is turning his back on the horror scenario that is unfolding in front of our very eyes.
+
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+Fellow citizens and physicians of the world turn away from the perpetration of this monstrous crime against humanity.
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+Do this to save yourself, your descendants, do this to rescue the name of your family or go down in history as one of the greatest criminals of all time.
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+Okay, so I stand a little corrected. He definitely pulled it out of the ditch there, but I still think that in the beginning when he said that RNA vaccines are short-lived chromosomal recipes,
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+I think he was attempting to be sarcastic and it doesn't come off that way if it's not your first language and it's not going to come off that way for anybody else that's listening to him either.
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+Even people that speak English as their first language because of him not doing that and vice versa.
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+So it's a great message. Obviously it's a great message and I really liked how actually the DNA wasn't so central to his explanation.
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+It didn't matter. It was worse. It made it worse.
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+I was anticipating that was going to be a lot worse than it was. So when it started with the bakery and whatever, I was getting really worried at first.
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+So that's good. I'm happy. That's great.
+
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+More hope there.
+
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+This one is less hopeful to me. It's a little weird.
+
+44:23.000 --> 44:31.000
+She's funny, but it's a little weird and we go full-court press on one particular idea which I need to process still.
+
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+It's been nearly four years since the imaginary virus swept the Earth and almost three since the release of its antidote.
+
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+A miracle vaccine that utilized a brand new never-before-seen technology with capabilities far beyond our existing antiquated immunizations.
+
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+Its swift release came with a promise that it was completely safe and 95% effective.
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+Then it would ensure your grandmother's survival and secure your future employment.
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+It would protect you, not only from the dangerous contagion, but from the even more dangerous social contagion that had taken hold of the mom.
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+You would no longer run the risk of being ostracized by your friends or excommunicated by your family.
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+It would eliminate the risk of being threatened on public transportation by strangers who wish death upon you and your children.
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+You wouldn't have to abandon any more of your family members as they...
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+as they died in a cold and sterile hospital bed.
+
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+But three years and ten boosters later, it seems like every month another acquaintance of mine is dropping dead from a heart attack.
+
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+And that social contagion? Well, the world has never been more divided.
+
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+In other words, as suspected, all of those promises fell short.
+
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+And while anyone with two eyes to see would call the response to the pandemic and epic failure,
+
+45:56.000 --> 46:01.000
+the regime continues to operate as though the Titanic didn't just smash into a giant iceberg
+
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+and that it successfully made its way across the Atlantic Ocean.
+
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+And now we're all expected to clap for the captain of the ship.
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+And that's exactly what we did this week, when the circus production of delusion awarded to scientists a Nobel Prize for their contribution to the development of COVID-19.
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+I mean, the fact that anyone would be awarded for creating something so dangerous and deadly is ridiculous enough on its own.
+
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+But after Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize for bombing seven countries, this isn't what should surprise you.
+
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+What should set off alarm bells is that these two won the prize instead of the actual inventor of mRNA technology, Robert Malone.
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+You see, back in the late 1980s, Robert Malone in a landmark experiment discovered that it was possible to transfer mRNA protected by a liposome into cultured cells to signal the information needed for the production of proteins.
+
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+Yeah, I don't really get what any of this means either, but we don't have to get what it means.
+
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+Because up until the COVID-19 pandemic, the scientific community agreed that it meant Robert Malone was the inventor of mRNA technology.
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+Even Wikipedia recognized Malone as the pioneer, as the way back machine shows us that before the pandemic, their page on mRNA vaccines said the following.
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+In 1989, Robert W. Malone P. felt
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+I find myself asking is, is 204 captures?
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+47:34.000 --> 47:42.000
+A lot of captures for a, for a webpage between, what is it between February?
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+I mean, I don't know, anyway, low, it's a low number, okay.
+
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+Wagner et al. developed a high efficiency in vitro and in vivo RNA transfection system using cationic liposomes.
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+These studies were evidence that in vitro transcribed mRNA could deliver the genetic information to produce proteins within living cell tissue.
+
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+But then something unexpected happened after the release of a vaccine, Malone started talking a lot.
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+In fact, he talked his way right into the highest rated podcast of all time, Joe Rogan.
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+And what he said was not so favorable,
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+First person to post the right, the right date of the Joe Rogan podcast that, that Robert Malone was on, uh, wins prize.
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+I don't know what that prize is, like you win.
+
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+Do you remember when it was? Because it wasn't as early as you think.
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+To the people who stood to gain very handsomely from the vaccine.
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+He said unequivocally that the COVID-19 vaccine was unsafe.
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+A claim he is not wavered on to this day.
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+When recently asked if given that the patents for mRNA vaccines belong to him in date back to 1989.
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+Who's she citing here?
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+Who's she citing here?
+
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+Who is that guy?
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+I think he's on my map.
+
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+He's down here on my map.
+
+49:17.000 --> 49:22.000
+Robert Martinotti blocked me because I was trying to point out that they used clones.
+
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+And Robert Martinotti is the gatekeeper for, for Mike Eden's telegram group.
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+Like he blocked me.
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+Uh, uh, I just find it kind of funny.
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+I mean, here she is.
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+Robert Malone is definitely the inventor.
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+Should have definitely got the prize of anyone.
+
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+And Robert Martinotti agrees.
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+If he should have gotten the Nobel Prize instead, he replied,
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+probably not because the technology has not been proven to be safe.
+
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+After making his rounds on several popular podcasts,
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+the media swiftly removed him as the inventor of mRNA technology.
+
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+The mainstream media got to work on their hit pieces and in came Catalin Carrico,
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+a little known scientist who spent her entire career attempting to improve the technology that Malone developed to no avail.
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+Until magically in 2020, everything changed.
+
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+After the release of the vaccines, she suddenly shot straight up to the top as the darling inventor of the miracle prophylaxis.
+
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+So what exactly was Carrico's contribution to the science behind mRNA vaccines?
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+She and her partner Weisman modified the vaccine by adding pseudo-uridine, which get this,
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+made the vaccine less inflammatory.
+
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+Yeah, that's right.
+
+50:49.000 --> 50:55.000
+The drug that's inflaming people's hearts to the point of killing them was tweaked by Carrico and Weisman
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+to be less inflammatory, earning them a Nobel Prize.
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+That really is something. I can't imagine what the vaccine did before their contribution,
+
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+but I'm going to assume it looks something like this.
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+I mean, aside from the fact that the vaccine is unsafe and useless,
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+awarding these to you instead of the actual inventor of mRNA technology
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+is kind of like snubbing the Sumerian people for inventing the wheel
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+and instead opting to award the dude who invented spinner hubcaps.
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+This is wild.
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+Look, I know I didn't make it possible for like things to move or whatever,
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+but I made it possible for things to look like they're moving when they're not.
+
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+Which is super trippy, bro. Trust me, it's jokes.
+
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+I mean, none of this is surprising, just as the scientists behind lobotomies won a Nobel Prize back in 1949,
+
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+our upside-down society will continue to award those who conduct the most atrocious experiments on human beings,
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+as long as it's profitable, of course.
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+I learned very young that you don't win in this world for talent or hard work or virtue.
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+You win by being part of the club.
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+And boy are these two ever part of the club.
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+Drew Weisman spent his college year studying biochemistry.
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+He engaged in environmental and racial justice and was also a voting rights activist.
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+After graduate school Weisman completed a residency at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
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+and a fellowship at the NIH, where he worked on HIV research under the supervision of none other
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+than the King of COVID and the Vouchy.
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+Katalyn Carrico's rap sheet is even worse.
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+After being demoted four times throughout her career, because not a single one of her peers
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+saw any value in her contributions to mRNA research,
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+she finally caught her lucky break when she ran into Weisman at a photocopier in 1997.
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+Weisman told her he wanted to create a vaccine for HIV.
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+She told him she could do that and they became fast friends.
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+In 2005, the pair published their research on how mRNA might be used to send instruction to disease cells.
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+And in their own words, they were waiting for their phones to ring off the hook but didn't get a single phone call.
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+It wasn't until 2019 when Carrico became the vice president of BioNTech, the creators of the COVID-19 vaccine,
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+that her hard work finally bared through.
+
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+But wait, there's more.
+
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+Pfizer, who I will remind you, teamed up with Carrico's company BioNTech to create the COVID-19 vaccine,
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+donates heavily to the Carolinska Institute, which is solely responsible for awarding the Nobel Prize.
+
+54:10.000 --> 54:12.000
+Wow, how perfectly kosher.
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+Catalin was also a communist spy in her home country, Hungary, but she ensures us that she didn't do anyone any harm during that period of her life.
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+Besides the last statement, most of that's right out of Robert Malone's own Twitter feed.
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+So the fact that she plugged him so hard, the fact that she plugged Robert Montanatti and that he was plugging Robert,
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+It's a question of who they work for or working for or against or what, but JP Sears is part of this group.
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+It's a pretty impressive little machine.
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+And so I do think that there's a lot more pieces of this puzzle to put together and we'll keep doing that because the show must go on.
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+And they are definitely having a spectacular commitment to these lies.
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+It's such a spectacular commitment to the lies that it creates an illusion of consensus.
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+And that illusion of consensus is what fooled you and me and everybody, our families and friends and everybody on the whole planet.
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+Into thinking that the right thing to do with the right question to ask was, where the hell did this virus come from?
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+And the craftiness of it was is that this plan also included ceding a poison pill narrative of there are no viruses at all.
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+or immediately find a home in with people who gave you the illusion of consensus that no virus is actually a really, really smart place to be.
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+You don't get there all by yourself and you don't stay there all by yourself.
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+But if you find the truth or you get very close to the truth all by yourself, you tend to stay there.
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+And that's how we're here. We're all people wandering in the dark and saw each other's torch.
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+And now we all get together here every once in a while, but this is what this is about.
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+Everybody else is being led away from the exit and back deeper into the cave.
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+By all these sides shows all these dumb stories that have nothing to do with the original crime as Mike Eden so eloquently put it.
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+It is a crime. It's an ongoing crime. I don't know how long it's going to go on.
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+They have lied to us about this pandemic potential and our accessibility to it in order to create a mythology that could enslave our children.
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+And they did it with an illusion of consensus on all sides of the ball, on TV, on social media, but also among the people who were full censored
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+so that everybody would in theory be sucked into this and decide that solving these were a good idea because we didn't know what was going on.
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+Because it was a gain of function virus, we didn't know how bad it would be. So thank goodness we locked down.
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+So it's going to take a while for everybody to come to the conclusion that I energetic murder was the pandemic, but we can do it.
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+We've got to stay strong and consistent and not be distracted by the illusion of consensus about a laboratory or bad cave virus and be steadfast in our understanding that the protocols were murder and transfection is a medicine.
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+It doesn't matter what you call it. Whatever name you want to call the background, it doesn't matter.
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+And this is the trap that you cannot fall into. Don't let them get you.
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+That there are artificial ways to create disease. There are artificial ways to disseminate DNA and RNA.
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+And there may be lots in different ways that mammals and plants and reptiles and vivians fungi all use small vesicles containing RNA and DNA to communicate within and between.
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+And we know that's true. It's just a question of how much, what role they play, how much they drive evolution.
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+It's always been something missing in the biology of evolution, of mutation, random mutations leading to adaptation.
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+One of the things that really is missing from there is that you kind of have a real, you lose a lot of really good traits then for just unlucky.
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+I think we're going to find that a lot of the biology that we've been led to believe is a lie.
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+And I think we're going to find that a lot of the reason why we've been lied to is because they don't want us to understand their goals.
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+They don't want us to understand how we're really being governed.
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+And they don't want our children to understand how they intend to govern them.
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+Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is going to likely be dumb in a few years.
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+So you might as well get ahead of the curve.
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+Transfection is definitely not immunization. That's not ahead of the curve. That's just smart.
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+Stop all transfections in humans.
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+They are trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary.
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+I'm going to go get some TV and put some vinegar in it or something, whatever Pamela said.
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+Hopefully this is not going to get any worse.
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+Thanks for joining me, everybody.
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+Thanks for joining me.
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+What does that mean? I am Amalek.
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+You type that every night, but I don't know what you mean.
+
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+Keeping our flashlights forward, our arms straight.
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+We're going out of here.
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+Walking out of the cave, my friends.
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+Hey, there was an eclipse. I forgot to use that.
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+Darn it.
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+I'll use it tomorrow night.
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+Thanks, guys.
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+Thank you.
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+Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen!
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+go on biological high resistance low noise information brief brought to you by a
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+biologist since the 15th of October 2023. As you can see my voice is less than
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+optimal this evening. I'm not gonna make it a long show but I'm not gonna miss my
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+show. I apologize if anyone was watching Mark's dream and got cut short. You can
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+always come back here and watch this later. Don't take the bait on TV and
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+social media and obviously it's getting a little hot in here now. Don't get me
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+wrong it's not that I didn't expect them to to up the stakes and I think that a
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+someone tonight by the name of of Shapiro this guy here and this guy here and is he
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+in this picture? No he's not in that picture. But he was at the original
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+meeting with with Joe and Sam and Jordan and Rogan and Shapiro and I can't
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+remember that guy's name. And so Shapiro of course has a pretty predictable
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+matter what is true that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true
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+a side but to form an opinion on something that is purely based on images
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+on your phone hearsay on television and whatever performance art is on your
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+cable TV but yet we're all being urged to form an opinion about and it's
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+week to the board is dr. Jolie hope I'm gonna get him on my stream this week I
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+think it's in California and a lot of what Steve Kirsch is is outwardly
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+the best anecdote that I can tell you that should convince you that something's
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+zoom called Steve's steering committee and I don't need to say who's in that
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+what to write sub-stacks about but instead it was an incredulous look of
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+meeting serendipitously at the pre-party and even at the meeting at the
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+that like many of the signal groups that I've been invited to join being
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+you know so I can use it kind of meeting and flattery and ego massage is used to
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+get everybody to put down their guard and tell everybody their intimate thoughts
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+and whatever and that's how they got us that's how they got all the people on
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+the dissident side with intimate phone calls and intimate meetings and hotel
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+meetings and watching a husband and wife argue and now suddenly the husband and
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+wife have to be real now you can't doubt them anymore because they fight you know
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+and when you watch them fight now you know they're not liars as if that is
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+not a stick but that's how all of this magic is done and that's how all of these
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+Kirsch's speech very well here you will hear a very enticing what sounds like a
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+guy who's just shooting from his cuff shooting from the hip whatever this
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+phrase is trying to tell you what he's fighting for but you'll hear the
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+thoughts you'll hear the faith there was a novel virus it's changing all the time
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+the variants are there we had to do something what we did was rushed and they
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+were covering it up because it was a gain of function virus you probably hear
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+all of it I don't know how long this is I don't know if I'm gonna listen to the
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+whole thing but it'll give me a break force to get it regular families were
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+forced to get it with peer pressure and with and there was also the
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+bribery's there was the donuts the pizzas the money with medicine there
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+should never be bribery those two should never be mixed whatsoever so I
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+would like to introduce you to a true hero this is a man who is behind our
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+Vaccine Safety Research Foundation we have put on to defeat the mandates we
+
+16:53.300 --> 16:58.660
+have overcome all kinds of obstacles we continue to fight we have amazing
+
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+events planned for next year we will not stop we are not going anywhere we're
+
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+here for all of you even all of you that are going in there to see Dr. Anthony
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+17:06.580 --> 17:11.180
+Fauci but Mr. Steve Kersch he is one of our true heroes he's a Bay Area
+
+17:11.180 --> 17:18.500
+entrepreneur he is the number one misinformation spreader super spreader
+
+17:18.500 --> 17:23.620
+I think we need to change his title though to number one information spreader
+
+17:23.620 --> 17:27.620
+I don't think he likes that one quite as much but it is true he is the number
+
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+one information spreader and he is a true hero he is a man that is driven by truth
+
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+and by science and what I mean science I'm not talking about Anthony Fauci
+
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+bought big pharma science he is driven by true science and so thank you Steve
+
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+Kersch
+
+17:50.060 --> 17:55.940
+and thank you all for coming today it's great to see you out here and and
+
+17:55.940 --> 18:01.180
+protesting this you know I tried I don't have a ticket to get into the talk
+
+18:01.180 --> 18:05.180
+today and I figured that if I submitted a question you know because they always
+
+18:05.260 --> 18:08.980
+have this thing where you can write down a question and submit it and then if
+
+18:08.980 --> 18:14.900
+it's from you for me like them they're never gonna ask about I mean is this
+
+18:14.900 --> 18:21.380
+any different than then George Webb getting kicked out of the conference in
+
+18:21.380 --> 18:27.700
+Atlanta he went to some freedom lawyers conference in Atlanta and pretended or
+
+18:27.700 --> 18:32.980
+kind of got kicked out for not having a press pass or something whatever is this
+
+18:33.060 --> 18:35.980
+any different now he's gonna say that he tried to submit a question and they
+
+18:35.980 --> 18:42.460
+wouldn't answer it the guy at the desk said no come on these are the kinds of
+
+18:42.460 --> 18:46.980
+things that don't really make any sense to me why would you even tell these
+
+18:46.980 --> 18:54.780
+stories these stories are only being told because it's all it's all a stick
+
+18:54.780 --> 19:02.780
+this guy's really really rich why does he need to raise money on a 501 you know
+
+19:02.780 --> 19:12.420
+on a nonprofit organization why does that need to happen because I don't get
+
+19:12.420 --> 19:18.220
+where all these people become heroes then he paid a bunch of lawyers to make a
+
+19:18.220 --> 19:26.100
+501 what is it a 503 501 3 C3 so that people can donate big dollars you know
+
+19:26.100 --> 19:31.580
+like the same foundations that's that fund the PBS NewsHour are donating to
+
+19:31.580 --> 19:39.580
+his vaccine safety research foundation must be real sketchy on real real edgy
+
+19:39.580 --> 19:48.220
+stuff the skull foundation is funding it I mean this is where we are because this
+
+19:48.220 --> 19:53.380
+is the guy that Robert Malone supposedly came out with on the Brett Weinstein
+
+19:53.380 --> 19:58.100
+podcast and Robert Malone is kind of pretending to be a Republican but his
+
+19:58.100 --> 20:03.620
+best friend is the biggest single donor to the Democratic Party and he comes
+
+20:03.620 --> 20:12.700
+out on Brent Weinstein's podcast I mean I think we're seeing something here
+
+20:12.700 --> 20:20.340
+really important that they've decided to just kind of ignore it and pretend
+
+20:20.340 --> 20:24.660
+that people are not seeing through them and they're just going to keep going
+
+20:24.660 --> 20:34.940
+forward and hope that the tide doesn't turn but the tide needs to turn people
+
+20:34.940 --> 20:38.700
+were killed by protocols and if he doesn't mention protocols even once here
+
+20:38.700 --> 20:44.740
+we have a problem so listen he better mention them actually the question so
+
+20:44.740 --> 20:50.540
+it's almost useless to go in and so but I went up there anyway and I said hey
+
+20:50.540 --> 20:55.100
+look I'm I'm pretty famous I'm the number one misinformation super spreader
+
+20:55.100 --> 21:00.140
+in the world and I just want to ask Fauci one question on stage you know
+
+21:00.140 --> 21:03.820
+can I can I do that the answer is no we don't have anyone who could talk to you
+
+21:03.820 --> 21:11.580
+about that so I tell you I didn't come here with high expectations and I was
+
+21:11.580 --> 21:17.700
+not disappointed by that response you know the other I'm pretty famous and I'd
+
+21:17.700 --> 21:23.260
+like to talk to Tony Fauci that's like going to an Eric Clapton show and saying
+
+21:23.260 --> 21:28.260
+I'm pretty famous I'd like to go backstage it's just stupid it's just
+
+21:28.260 --> 21:35.180
+stupid the thing that I noticed is that a lot of people who believe what Fauci
+
+21:35.180 --> 21:41.620
+says and what their doctor says is they are basically trusting authority and when
+
+21:41.620 --> 21:46.180
+I came out and I said hey you know it looks like the data actually shows that
+
+21:46.180 --> 21:51.300
+these shots are not safe and effective people didn't believe me because I'm
+
+21:51.300 --> 21:56.620
+not a doctor I'm not an expert I'm not an epidemiologist and I'm just a
+
+21:56.620 --> 22:02.100
+regular you know engineer with a couple of degrees from MIT that knows how to
+
+22:02.100 --> 22:08.980
+analyze data but apparently that doesn't count right so I tried to make it very
+
+22:08.980 --> 22:13.820
+clear to people who can't tell the difference between what science says
+
+22:13.820 --> 22:18.700
+and what the experts say and so what I did is I offered a million dollars to
+
+22:18.700 --> 22:25.860
+anybody in the world who would bet me and my bet was the vaccine has killed
+
+22:25.860 --> 22:31.080
+more people than it's safe now that's a that's a very safe bet and I was
+
+22:31.080 --> 22:35.900
+prepared to go to ten million dollars or even more if anybody wanted to take
+
+22:35.900 --> 22:45.380
+me up on it can you believe that nobody in the entire world would take my bet
+
+22:45.380 --> 22:50.900
+easy money for someone right because we all know we all trust the authorities
+
+22:50.900 --> 22:55.340
+that the vaccines are safe and effective and they save lives so I should be
+
+22:55.340 --> 23:00.700
+inundated like I should be bankrupt because everyone's gonna take my million
+
+23:00.700 --> 23:08.540
+dollars from me and but nobody took me up on it but there's one guy one guy in
+
+23:08.540 --> 23:14.220
+the entire world he's in Israel his name is Sarwulf he's a tech entrepreneur
+
+23:14.220 --> 23:20.580
+and a poker player he's not a doctor he's not an epidemiologist and he he said
+
+23:20.580 --> 23:27.300
+I'll take your bet for half a million and I say you're on so we have an escrow
+
+23:27.300 --> 23:32.020
+agent we have an agreement we're in the process of picking judges which of
+
+23:32.020 --> 23:35.580
+course is the hard part because you have to find judges who actually can
+
+23:35.580 --> 23:42.060
+interpret the data but the point is that if the vaccines really worked and we're
+
+23:42.060 --> 23:48.500
+saving lives and everybody would be wanting to take my money and there's
+
+23:48.500 --> 23:54.940
+only one guy and he wasn't even in the United States who accepted my bet what
+
+23:54.940 --> 24:01.060
+does that tell you it tells you that nobody has any conviction in their
+
+24:01.060 --> 24:07.020
+beliefs it says that every health authority in the entire world is happy
+
+24:07.020 --> 24:13.420
+to risk your life on the vaccine but they will not risk their money they will not
+
+24:13.420 --> 24:20.140
+risk a dime abetting their money that they're right and so when you look at
+
+24:20.140 --> 24:23.540
+this is the vaccine safe and effective and I've been looking at this problem
+
+24:23.540 --> 24:28.260
+for a couple of years now and you know at first I was posting on Twitter and
+
+24:28.260 --> 24:31.700
+then I got two lifetime bands on Twitter and ended up starting a
+
+24:31.700 --> 24:42.100
+sub-stack in October two years ago and 1500 articles later it's it's even worse
+
+24:42.100 --> 24:50.700
+than I thought and I just found about a month ago I found what I considered to
+
+24:50.700 --> 24:55.420
+be the holy grail you know and how many people saw the Monty Python and the
+
+24:55.420 --> 25:00.900
+search for the holy grail okay so you know it's like crossing the bridge you
+
+25:00.900 --> 25:05.900
+know where the troll asked the three questions and you know and then you got
+
+25:05.900 --> 25:09.380
+the what's the and what's the and then you know told the troll what's the
+
+25:09.380 --> 25:13.580
+labian airspeed of it or what's what's the airspeed of a laden swallow and then
+
+25:13.580 --> 25:17.420
+the right answer is African or European I don't know people remember that but
+
+25:17.500 --> 25:23.700
+anyway I digress so I finally found the mother load and the
+
+25:23.700 --> 25:27.420
+technically that wasn't the right answer it was a question that went asked the
+
+25:27.420 --> 25:30.860
+person who was asking the questions to cross the bridge didn't know the answer
+
+25:30.860 --> 25:38.300
+and so then he got to go across other load is it's CMS data it is the Medicare
+
+25:38.300 --> 25:43.260
+data so it so CMS is Medicare and what happened is that for the last two
+
+25:43.260 --> 25:56.820
+years for the last two years they have been collecting data from over 15,000
+
+25:56.820 --> 26:02.620
+nursing homes on a weekly basis they've they've tracked the number of COVID
+
+26:02.620 --> 26:08.740
+cases number of infections and the number of COVID does and they've been
+
+26:08.740 --> 26:16.220
+publishing that for the last two years now has anyone ever seen an analysis of
+
+26:16.220 --> 26:22.180
+that data that says look look at this data it shows the vaccines worked on the
+
+26:22.180 --> 26:27.660
+elderly which was the number one demographic for where the vaccine was
+
+26:27.660 --> 26:33.300
+supposed to work now has anyone ever seen a paper referencing that Medicare data
+
+26:33.300 --> 26:38.500
+that's the gold standard Medicare data this is it this is you don't get any
+
+26:38.540 --> 26:42.380
+better than this data this is the best data in the world for showing that it
+
+26:42.380 --> 26:48.180
+worked did you ever see a paper anywhere that analyze the data and so this data
+
+26:48.180 --> 26:55.340
+shows that it worked no it's a good point and you got a given points on that but
+
+26:55.340 --> 26:59.620
+so far we're started with the shot we haven't talked about the fact that the
+
+26:59.620 --> 27:05.740
+danger of the virus was grossly exaggerated by the lockdowns and the
+
+27:05.740 --> 27:11.700
+imposition of protocols based on a financial incentive and the huge changes
+
+27:11.700 --> 27:16.260
+that took place in New York City that were used as a precedence around the
+
+27:16.260 --> 27:23.380
+world and around the globe used as a prelude let's say those numbers that
+
+27:23.380 --> 27:27.900
+were generated in New York State were used as a prelude of what was gonna
+
+27:27.900 --> 27:33.260
+happen around the world and all the governments took it that way there's
+
+27:33.300 --> 27:39.500
+no bones about it that is what happened and we are already in he started his
+
+27:39.500 --> 27:45.500
+story in 2021 because that's when the two inspections were rolled out or if
+
+27:45.500 --> 27:49.500
+you want to look at the UK's perspective late 2020 was when asked
+
+27:49.500 --> 27:54.940
+through Zeneca I think hit the streets so that's why I decided to look at the
+
+27:54.940 --> 28:00.260
+data because they weren't looking at the data now why wouldn't they look at the
+
+28:00.260 --> 28:04.740
+data if it showed that the vaccines work and the answer is it shows the
+
+28:04.740 --> 28:12.500
+vaccines did the opposite it shows the vaccines made old people more oh sorry
+
+28:12.500 --> 28:22.700
+likely to die from Covid and then the effect wore off and they're the same as
+
+28:22.700 --> 28:27.100
+they were before which means the vaccine actually killed a bunch of people so
+
+28:27.100 --> 28:33.820
+the vaccine made them more likely to die of Covid the novel virus did you hear
+
+28:33.820 --> 28:39.460
+it because that's what this is about to me this is it this is you don't get any
+
+28:39.460 --> 28:43.380
+better than this data this is the best data in the world for showing that it
+
+28:43.380 --> 28:48.940
+worked did you ever see a paper anywhere that analyzed the data and said this
+
+28:48.940 --> 28:56.300
+data shows that it worked no so that's why I decided to look at the data because
+
+28:56.300 --> 29:00.580
+they weren't looking at the data now why wouldn't they look at the data if it
+
+29:00.580 --> 29:05.300
+showed that the vaccines work and the answer is it shows the vaccines did the
+
+29:05.300 --> 29:13.420
+opposite it shows the vaccines made old people more likely to die from Covid
+
+29:13.420 --> 29:21.660
+and then the effect wore off and they're the same as they were before which means
+
+29:21.660 --> 29:26.900
+the vaccine actually killed a bunch of people and then sort of didn't and then
+
+29:26.900 --> 29:32.940
+then what happened is omicron hit so the the virus changed it it changed to a
+
+29:32.940 --> 29:37.500
+less lethal variant and you know what happened the infection fatality rate
+
+29:37.500 --> 29:46.460
+which is the number of deaths versus the number of infections okay and so that
+
+29:46.460 --> 29:52.060
+went down meaning something worked to protect you against Covid and what it
+
+29:52.060 --> 29:57.260
+was is the omicron variant because the omicron variant is less deadly than the
+
+29:57.260 --> 30:02.900
+the variants before by a factor of seven and you can see that in the Medicare
+
+30:02.900 --> 30:09.180
+data you can see the effect of omicron in the Medicare data and it lowers the
+
+30:09.180 --> 30:15.660
+infection fatality rate by a factor of around seven but the vaccine increased
+
+30:15.660 --> 30:24.380
+it by one point six so in other words their own data shows that the vaccine
+
+30:24.380 --> 30:31.020
+actually accelerated death because it increased your risk of dying from Covid
+
+30:31.020 --> 30:36.980
+this is very important for people to know and I'll be writing a sub-stack on it
+
+30:36.980 --> 30:41.820
+I was gonna try to finish it today but it'll probably be either later tonight
+
+30:41.820 --> 30:46.860
+or tomorrow I will have all of this out and I want to thank there was a there
+
+30:46.860 --> 30:50.220
+were a couple of people standing here that I showed this data to and they said
+
+30:50.220 --> 30:55.740
+no this shows that it the vaccines work they said no and and so they actually
+
+30:55.740 --> 31:00.180
+helped me by talking to people who you know aren't familiar with data analysis
+
+31:00.180 --> 31:05.140
+it was super helpful because now I can present the data in a way that the
+
+31:05.140 --> 31:10.140
+average person can understand and so you have to sort of partial it out but
+
+31:10.140 --> 31:16.540
+that's the key is really is getting people to look at the data and say look
+
+31:16.540 --> 31:20.500
+nobody can challenge nobody's able to challenge this guy on it and in fact I
+
+31:20.500 --> 31:25.500
+raised over $50,000 from my followers for people who are willing to sponsor a
+
+31:25.500 --> 31:31.020
+debate between you know either me or other experts on on various topics and
+
+31:31.020 --> 31:35.940
+so the point is that if we offer $10,000 we say hey you can donate to the
+
+31:35.940 --> 31:40.380
+maturity of your choice just for engaging in a conversation to show me
+
+31:40.380 --> 31:45.900
+the right path and nobody shows up it's an indictment on them because we're
+
+31:45.900 --> 31:53.140
+using their data and it's very clear it shows that the vaccines not only did
+
+31:53.140 --> 31:59.340
+nothing they actually made you more likely to die from covid and so this
+
+31:59.340 --> 32:04.260
+data is not been you know the CDC never talks did you ever heard the CDC talk
+
+32:04.260 --> 32:08.580
+about this this nursing home data no of course not if the vaccine worked they
+
+32:08.580 --> 32:12.900
+be it'd be like every week they'd be referring to that data and so it just
+
+32:12.900 --> 32:20.820
+shows you just how corrupt this whole system is and you know two years ago I
+
+32:20.820 --> 32:26.580
+mean I took the vaccine because I trusted the FDA I thought everything was on a
+
+32:26.580 --> 32:32.340
+level like a lot of people thinking like oh well they're experts and you must
+
+32:32.340 --> 32:35.980
+don't know what they're they're talking about and I'm you know doing my thing is
+
+32:35.980 --> 32:42.460
+it so isn't it clear this is completely and totally on faith there's a novel
+
+32:42.460 --> 32:47.940
+virus we had to do something the mRNA killed a bunch of people no doubt I mean
+
+32:47.940 --> 32:51.500
+I wonder I'm I'm scared to let it play because we might get to the stage where
+
+32:51.500 --> 32:56.340
+the EC is gonna say that they were contaminated and then it's completely
+
+32:56.340 --> 33:04.220
+the whole narrative and it's it's very difficult for me at this stage to
+
+33:04.220 --> 33:08.060
+believe that they didn't have this whole narrative ready to go and already
+
+33:08.060 --> 33:14.140
+planned even if it's a if it's a permutation of the original one because
+
+33:14.140 --> 33:20.140
+they had to go a little farther than they intended they thought more people
+
+33:20.140 --> 33:23.060
+would be on board it would be easier they wouldn't have to turn up to eat so
+
+33:23.060 --> 33:28.620
+much on the narrative but they've they're fine with it I'm not really sure
+
+33:28.620 --> 33:34.100
+who these people are and who they all work for but they do not work for us they
+
+33:34.100 --> 33:40.820
+are not grassroots salt of the earth people fighting for their next-door
+
+33:40.820 --> 33:49.820
+neighbors like I humbly submit that I am I humbly submit that I am fighting for
+
+33:49.820 --> 33:56.700
+everybody in Pittsburgh everybody in Wisconsin everybody in Chicago everybody
+
+33:56.700 --> 34:00.820
+in Amsterdam and in Rotterdam and everywhere where I've ever lived and
+
+34:00.820 --> 34:05.900
+anywhere that I know somebody that I care about because who else do you fight
+
+34:05.900 --> 34:11.380
+for you can't care for every person on the planet and you can't let your heart
+
+34:11.380 --> 34:17.420
+break for every person on the planet and if you do that then you can't go on
+
+34:17.460 --> 34:22.020
+your phone or watch television ever again because that's not the way that's
+
+34:22.020 --> 34:26.300
+not the way your brain is supposed to function you're not supposed to have
+
+34:26.300 --> 34:30.940
+empathy for all 8 billion people on the planet
+
+34:34.620 --> 34:40.020
+and so if they are directing your empathy around the world if they are
+
+34:40.020 --> 34:46.540
+directing your emotions around the world you got a wonder and you got to ask
+
+34:46.540 --> 34:54.180
+yourself why let's try to know maybe I'll just listen what time is it 10 15
+
+34:54.180 --> 35:00.540
+I'll listen tech entrepreneur and so I ended up getting two shots of Moderna
+
+35:00.540 --> 35:07.820
+but right after that I started hearing about deaths or near deaths from people
+
+35:07.820 --> 35:12.940
+that were close to me I in fact I heard from one person that three of her
+
+35:12.940 --> 35:17.180
+relatives took the vaccine and they died within a week after they got the
+
+35:17.180 --> 35:20.420
+vaccine and they were perfectly and of course that's the story that he told
+
+35:20.420 --> 35:25.060
+out of Brad Weinstein podcast it's his house gleeber his house geeber is the
+
+35:25.060 --> 35:29.260
+one that had three people die healthy before that I said look there's no way
+
+35:29.260 --> 35:33.500
+that that could possibly be happening so either you're lying to me or the
+
+35:33.500 --> 35:37.300
+government's lying to me and I found out pretty quick that it was the government
+
+35:37.300 --> 35:41.580
+lying to me and so you know and it's not just by the way it's not just for this
+
+35:41.580 --> 35:45.420
+vaccine that they're lying to you it's to get our vaccines as well you know I
+
+35:45.420 --> 35:52.020
+talked to Alex about hey Alex is there actually a safe vaccine right is
+
+35:52.020 --> 35:57.660
+there is a vaccine I should get and the answer is no that if you look at all the
+
+35:57.660 --> 36:04.300
+vaccine it's dawned I mean just now that you know if you say this as what are you
+
+36:04.300 --> 36:10.140
+really doing them well you're either setting people up for a real pain
+
+36:10.220 --> 36:16.460
+because anybody who's recently converted to the the you doubt everything team
+
+36:16.460 --> 36:24.060
+knows that it's a pretty painful conversion and secondly you're almost
+
+36:24.060 --> 36:31.820
+suggesting that we need vaccines just the old ones don't work either and so I'm
+
+36:31.820 --> 36:36.060
+very skeptical of his particular stance although you know what I'm happy about
+
+36:36.060 --> 36:42.860
+it for now because this is the right message we need to say this as I said in
+
+36:42.860 --> 36:47.900
+my slides intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the
+
+36:47.900 --> 36:53.860
+intent of augmenting the immune system is probably dumb and so he's right but
+
+36:53.860 --> 37:00.060
+he's not saying that he's saying that the old vaccines and these new ones
+
+37:00.060 --> 37:05.900
+they're both kind of sketch but let's listen to the details of why things they're
+
+37:05.900 --> 37:11.900
+aren't safety studies that show that demonstrate that the benefits outweigh
+
+37:11.900 --> 37:16.140
+the risk because they never do these aftermarket safety studies with the
+
+37:16.140 --> 37:22.180
+large numbers required to show them and so you're flying blind but what we do
+
+37:22.180 --> 37:27.100
+know is that in every study that's published in the peer reviewed that's
+
+37:27.100 --> 37:29.980
+an interesting I'm gonna go back to let you listen to it again that's an
+
+37:29.980 --> 37:35.300
+interesting and different thing than what Aaron Siri argues and what I believe
+
+37:35.780 --> 37:40.100
+Robert F. Kennedy Jr. argues which is that they haven't done placebo studies
+
+37:40.100 --> 37:46.220
+for the vaccines Steve seems to be arguing that we have a lot more data now
+
+37:46.220 --> 37:52.340
+and we can go into these medical databases and look at the temporal
+
+37:52.340 --> 37:57.780
+correlation between different ICD-10 codes and the application of these
+
+37:57.780 --> 38:02.140
+products and you can see whether or not there's a difference and I think he's
+
+38:02.140 --> 38:09.420
+right about that so again saying something relatively smart here is Steve
+
+38:09.420 --> 38:17.460
+Kirsch mixed in with 100% narrative town Omicron saved us not the vaccine the
+
+38:17.460 --> 38:23.340
+whole nine yards Omicron saved us according to Steve Kirsch gave us the
+
+38:23.340 --> 38:28.460
+immunity and to me and so you know and it's not just by the way it's not just
+
+38:28.460 --> 38:32.460
+for this vaccine that they're lying to you is to get our vaccines as well you
+
+38:32.460 --> 38:39.140
+know I talked to Alex about hey Alex is there actually a safe vaccine right is
+
+38:39.140 --> 38:44.340
+there is there a vaccine I should get and the answer is no that if you look at
+
+38:44.340 --> 38:50.500
+all the vaccines there aren't safety studies that show that demonstrate that
+
+38:50.500 --> 38:56.060
+the benefits outweigh the risk because they never do these aftermarket safety
+
+38:56.060 --> 39:01.740
+studies with the large numbers required to show that and so you're flying blind
+
+39:01.740 --> 39:07.060
+but what we do know is that in every study that's published in the peer
+
+39:07.060 --> 39:12.740
+reviewed medical journal we do know that in every single case when they compare
+
+39:12.740 --> 39:18.260
+the fully vaccinated with the fully unvaccinated that the fully unvaccinated
+
+39:18.540 --> 39:25.740
+kids do better on virtually every metric and you know so whether you're looking
+
+39:25.740 --> 39:31.140
+autism ADHD food allergies the list goes on and on but it's effectively auto
+
+39:31.140 --> 39:36.620
+immune disease is the big thing you know as a factor of 25 odds ratio which
+
+39:36.620 --> 39:41.660
+means virtually all autoimmune diseases if you have like a food allergy or
+
+39:41.660 --> 39:46.540
+anything that is you know type one diabetes that these things are being
+
+39:46.580 --> 39:52.220
+triggered by the vaccines and we know that not just from from the studies
+
+39:52.220 --> 39:57.460
+that have been done from my independent study but there's also a clinic that's
+
+39:57.460 --> 40:03.220
+located in the United States I won't say where they've been doing this for 25
+
+40:03.220 --> 40:09.140
+years and they counsel the parents do if parents says I want a vaccine for my
+
+40:09.140 --> 40:13.660
+kid they will give them full informed consent they will tell them here's the
+
+40:14.140 --> 40:18.460
+downside and all the parents refuse to have their kids vaccinated so for the
+
+40:18.460 --> 40:24.140
+past 25 years for all these kids in the practice there's not been a single case
+
+40:24.140 --> 40:29.180
+of autism in 25 years and they're in a community where autism is through the
+
+40:29.180 --> 40:35.580
+roof you can't explain that if it wasn't the vaccines causing it and I know
+
+40:35.580 --> 40:41.940
+another I know a doctor who has a lot of autism patients and I asked him you
+
+40:41.940 --> 40:46.380
+know sometimes kids go autistic they're normal and then they suddenly go
+
+40:46.380 --> 40:50.620
+autistic just like that for normal one day and they wake up the next day or you
+
+40:50.620 --> 40:54.860
+know hours later they're autistic and they're autistic for the rest of their
+
+40:54.860 --> 41:00.780
+lives what triggers that well it turns out I asked him I said so in how many
+
+41:00.780 --> 41:07.020
+cases did that happen where it happened within two weeks after a vaccine he said
+
+41:07.100 --> 41:12.340
+44 how many cases where that happened and it was two weeks just before their
+
+41:12.340 --> 41:19.740
+vaccine vaccine shot zero okay so you can do the math on that and it turns out
+
+41:19.740 --> 41:26.620
+that it'll never happen if the vaccine wasn't causing the autism what I just
+
+41:26.620 --> 41:32.660
+told you from one doctor it's just 44 cases but they're all post-vaccine you
+
+41:32.660 --> 41:38.140
+can't get that that's like flipping a coin 44 times and getting all heads okay
+
+41:38.140 --> 41:42.340
+it's not a fair coin okay if it was a fair coin have to be halped heads have
+
+41:42.340 --> 41:47.580
+tails right so this is they're all happening after the vaccine so this
+
+41:47.580 --> 41:51.500
+thing where they all these doctors will say oh you know it's been you know there's
+
+41:51.500 --> 41:58.940
+no link between vaccines and autism that's bullshit you know virtually all of
+
+41:58.980 --> 42:05.580
+these autism cases are being caused by vaccines and I'm not talking about
+
+42:05.580 --> 42:11.060
+and I'm including the case shot and the mother getting a vaccine beforehand and
+
+42:11.060 --> 42:19.740
+so forth so the bottom line is that if there's a safe vaccine I will let you
+
+42:19.740 --> 42:24.420
+know on my substack don't hold your breath but for now the list of safe
+
+42:24.420 --> 42:29.060
+vaccines is my favorite it's my favorite slide in the deck and it's a
+
+42:29.060 --> 42:36.260
+blank slide that is your list of safe vaccines so keep that in mind so thank
+
+42:36.260 --> 42:40.460
+you thank you for coming out today thank you very much
+
+42:41.300 --> 42:51.300
+thank you everybody it's pretty easy for him to basically not give any credit to
+
+42:51.300 --> 42:59.460
+anyone take all credit for himself and more importantly I would say that what's
+
+42:59.460 --> 43:04.700
+striking about this is that he goes farther than Robert F. Kennedy Jr. or
+
+43:04.700 --> 43:10.940
+Meryl Nast has ever gone I've never heard Meryl Nast say that there are no
+
+43:10.940 --> 43:17.340
+safe vaccines I've never heard Robert F. Kennedy say there are no
+
+43:17.340 --> 43:22.860
+same vaccines in fact I've heard him say often that he's pro vaccine he just
+
+43:22.860 --> 43:28.620
+wants them tested and I think I've also heard him hint that if there was a safe
+
+43:28.620 --> 43:35.740
+vaccine that he would be fine with mandating it we are not out of the woods
+
+43:35.740 --> 43:40.700
+yet ladies and gentlemen and don't think for one second that I have any pre
+
+43:40.700 --> 43:46.900
+misconceptions about what's going on here how everyone is still being used in
+
+43:46.900 --> 43:56.420
+puppeteered and played and it's a multi-layer theater here some people don't
+
+43:56.420 --> 44:01.500
+know that they're part of it some people don't know what part they're playing
+
+44:01.500 --> 44:08.300
+and to a certain extent it has to be the same with me it's not possible for me to
+
+44:08.300 --> 44:12.500
+know exactly what happened and it's not possible for me to know exactly what's
+
+44:12.500 --> 44:20.700
+happening and so to the extent to which I'm unable to escape from the traps that
+
+44:20.700 --> 44:28.900
+are inevitably everywhere I too am still scumbly dude by something almost
+
+44:28.900 --> 44:34.500
+assuredly but it's just a question of where do you put your energy in time I've
+
+44:34.500 --> 44:41.500
+got three kids and a wife who I never didn't see all day today almost and
+
+44:41.500 --> 44:51.860
+don't see on most days I can't expand into politics I want to get back to
+
+44:51.860 --> 45:00.020
+teaching biology but this illusion that they are casting on us this cognitive
+
+45:00.020 --> 45:07.660
+enchantment it must be broken it must be broken or our children will never
+
+45:07.660 --> 45:13.020
+escape it I can hear it from my boys when they come home from school their
+
+45:13.020 --> 45:23.500
+entire faculty is trapped the entire school is trapped in it we are very far
+
+45:23.500 --> 45:29.180
+from out of this mess and I think a lot of us have been fooled into believing
+
+45:29.180 --> 45:34.620
+that we've made more progress than we have because of the way that social
+
+45:34.620 --> 45:42.180
+media echoes inside of the cave I just want to be careful and I want to be
+
+45:42.180 --> 45:49.820
+vigilant and I want to be humble this shirt that I'm wearing here is from three
+
+45:49.820 --> 45:56.340
+years ago when Aaron Rodgers was still playing on the Packers and was sort of
+
+45:56.340 --> 46:00.220
+kind of lying about whether he'd been immunized or not but he was immunized he
+
+46:00.220 --> 46:07.220
+was immunized by infection and for a while during my stream I was wearing a
+
+46:07.220 --> 46:17.780
+yellow wristband I mean we're really in a mess here and this illusion of the
+
+46:17.780 --> 46:24.700
+of the narrative that the mystery that we've been tricked into solving and the
+
+46:24.700 --> 46:28.300
+people who have tricked us to believe that they are the heroes that are
+
+46:28.300 --> 46:33.980
+solving the mystery we've got to break this in chimp
+
+46:41.060 --> 46:48.060
+this one is especially brutal but it's important to see there's a number of
+
+46:48.060 --> 46:53.260
+aspects of this that I want to point out as we go through it the first one is
+
+46:53.260 --> 47:01.100
+that what we have here is the Jimmy Dor show it's a relatively well-watched
+
+47:01.100 --> 47:16.300
+show on YouTube with millions of subscribers and followers and they they're
+
+47:16.300 --> 47:22.140
+pretty good about seeing through lies in certain context but they are like many
+
+47:22.180 --> 47:27.020
+other people incapable of seeing that if they'll lie about all this other stuff
+
+47:27.020 --> 47:31.740
+why wouldn't they lie about a virus why wouldn't they lie about the
+
+47:31.740 --> 47:38.140
+specificity of a test why wouldn't they lie about a few sequences why wouldn't
+
+47:38.140 --> 47:46.900
+they lie about this stuff do you really believe that they would lie about terrorist
+
+47:46.940 --> 47:52.580
+events lie about how buildings would fall down lie about where bombs come from
+
+47:52.580 --> 48:00.540
+lie about who kills world leaders and not lie about a virus
+
+48:09.260 --> 48:12.300
+it's pretty naive
+
+48:12.300 --> 48:14.300
+so
+
+48:16.300 --> 48:21.120
+explicit was near the old con child actor Ben Shapiro has promoted an AI
+
+48:21.120 --> 48:25.260
+generated image he claims showed an Israeli baby burnt by Hamas militants
+
+48:25.260 --> 48:29.940
+didn't it in Yahoo's office shows similar fabricated images to Joe Biden and Tony
+
+48:29.940 --> 48:34.260
+but they didn't have to because Joe Biden went and repeated the lie he's
+
+48:34.260 --> 48:46.400
+gonna wait chicken wings chicken wings chicken wings chicken legs breaking
+
+48:46.400 --> 48:50.080
+Israeli is used white before we get that let's go let's stick with the chicken
+
+48:50.080 --> 48:54.220
+legs guys let me let you get first stab at this because I think this is part of
+
+48:54.220 --> 48:57.660
+a bigger picture right here it's not just Ben Shapiro who is doing this and
+
+48:57.660 --> 49:03.100
+this is once again this mentality that if you keep repeating the lie it becomes
+
+49:03.100 --> 49:07.180
+a truth you have to stay on narrative you keep yelling and screaming about it
+
+49:07.180 --> 49:10.780
+and at the end of the day a lot of people don't do their research don't look down
+
+49:10.780 --> 49:14.980
+the rabbit hole don't try to understand it just becomes automatic truth so did
+
+49:14.980 --> 49:26.140
+you hear what he just said how precise he said it just think if he would apply
+
+49:26.140 --> 49:35.980
+that to covid and to the pandemic just think how precisely he said that now
+
+49:35.980 --> 49:39.740
+what they're debating is that Ben Shapiro may or may not have perpetuated the
+
+49:39.740 --> 49:48.740
+sharing of an AI generated image of a burnt baby from Israel it's still up for
+
+49:48.740 --> 49:54.220
+grabs is whether it's an AI image but think about how how fifth generation
+
+49:54.220 --> 50:00.180
+warfare that crap is or you've got a guy who's part of the early intellectual
+
+50:00.180 --> 50:10.340
+dark web an influencer placed on purpose by the teal group by the musk and teal
+
+50:10.340 --> 50:22.940
+group under the Joe Rogan pyramid is in a is in full view saying crazy things and
+
+50:23.420 --> 50:28.820
+then we can argue with him by showing that it was an AI thing boy this AI is
+
+50:28.820 --> 50:35.900
+trouble isn't it and at the same time we're also talking about this listen to how
+
+50:35.900 --> 50:42.180
+he describes it and then marvel and revel in the idea that he's not talking
+
+50:42.180 --> 50:49.620
+about how protocols were used to exaggerate a novel pathogen or even to
+
+50:49.620 --> 50:55.340
+create the illusion of a novel pathogen he's not talking about that at all he's
+
+50:55.340 --> 51:00.260
+not even talking about the fact that that same illusion was used to justify
+
+51:00.260 --> 51:08.660
+giving millions of people including the main host of this show permanent damage
+
+51:08.660 --> 51:16.140
+from transfection and instead they're talking about this as if this is the
+
+51:16.140 --> 51:23.340
+why this is the new Scooby-Doo to solve obviously they let it happen
+
+51:23.340 --> 51:32.220
+obviously they're exaggerating obviously it's polarizing again right on the same
+
+51:32.220 --> 51:41.460
+darn fault line how weird is that huh they are trying to fraction us fraction
+
+51:41.460 --> 51:46.660
+made us badly they want us to fight about this they hope that people will
+
+51:46.660 --> 51:54.180
+take action don't take the bait ladies and gentlemen don't take the bait like
+
+51:54.180 --> 51:59.060
+these people are we don't need to get worked up over this we don't need to get
+
+51:59.060 --> 52:02.700
+worked up over this because we were just attacked for three years and we're still
+
+52:02.700 --> 52:12.140
+under attack now we got our own problems and the Israelis you know
+
+52:16.660 --> 52:20.340
+if we're gonna step out on this one if we're gonna step out on this one we
+
+52:20.340 --> 52:25.500
+got to step out on the side of peace you got to step out on the side of love and
+
+52:25.500 --> 52:31.540
+you got to step out on the side of turn your other cheek I'm sorry you don't
+
+52:31.660 --> 52:36.980
+like that that's the way it is I'm not saying that if somebody comes into my
+
+52:36.980 --> 52:46.540
+house they're not gonna get shot but I'm saying that you can't use bombs on a
+
+52:46.540 --> 52:50.260
+population that can't go anywhere
+
+52:54.580 --> 53:00.740
+it's just ridiculous but again I don't want to talk about it and they want you
+
+53:00.740 --> 53:05.260
+to talk about it that's what my point is they want everybody to argue about it
+
+53:05.260 --> 53:09.380
+they want you to debate about it they want you to think about what does this
+
+53:09.380 --> 53:15.140
+mean doesn't this mean the United States is really bad because they're
+
+53:15.140 --> 53:19.780
+unwavering support for Israel shouldn't the whole world hate the United States
+
+53:19.780 --> 53:26.780
+shouldn't the United States tear itself down just from shame that's what they
+
+53:26.780 --> 53:34.460
+want us to do that much is very clear because the other side is also crying
+
+53:34.460 --> 53:41.340
+both sides are crying in the United States people both on both sides that
+
+53:41.340 --> 53:46.220
+have nobody no skin in the game just hypothetical skin in the game like you
+
+53:46.220 --> 53:51.900
+know I watch it on my phone I see it on TV I've been following it my whole life
+
+53:52.380 --> 54:00.620
+I've been to Israel before and so they think they have skin in the game but
+
+54:00.620 --> 54:04.260
+these same people didn't have any skin in the game when we were using Remdesivir
+
+54:04.260 --> 54:08.180
+on people in hospitals for a year and a half these people don't have any skin
+
+54:08.180 --> 54:13.180
+in the game when people are dying of opioids on the street these people don't
+
+54:13.180 --> 54:16.140
+have any skin in the game when crack cocaine was spreading through the inner
+
+54:16.140 --> 54:23.100
+cities for the whole of the 90s people don't give a shit
+
+54:25.140 --> 54:32.460
+but we're supposed to get all riled up now and it is an atrocity it is awful
+
+54:32.460 --> 54:36.980
+there's a lot of awful things happening in Africa too I think there are some
+
+54:36.980 --> 54:42.460
+awful things happening in Asia too and there's an ongoing awful thing
+
+54:42.460 --> 54:45.940
+happening over here where we've been lied to they're lying to our children and
+
+54:45.940 --> 54:50.500
+they're governing us with mythologies
+
+54:53.140 --> 54:57.180
+don't get caught up in this but listen very carefully to how they describe it
+
+54:57.180 --> 55:01.020
+because it's important they get it right they're really close if they could just
+
+55:01.020 --> 55:07.460
+apply this to everything instead of just what the TV tells them to apply it to
+
+55:07.620 --> 55:14.420
+this would all be great and that's the trick the TV is telling them that this
+
+55:14.420 --> 55:21.300
+is the thing to argue about and these are the two sides these are the two
+
+55:21.300 --> 55:23.980
+perspectives
+
+55:27.060 --> 55:33.220
+and so they're arguing about it and they've forgotten already about what they
+
+55:33.220 --> 55:38.780
+should be arguing about which is that people violated our rights our sovereignty
+
+55:38.780 --> 55:45.780
+on a worldwide scale lied to us on a worldwide scale stole trillions of
+
+55:45.780 --> 55:53.740
+dollars and murdered many innocent people
+
+55:57.740 --> 56:02.260
+we get that let's go let's stick with the chicken legs guys let me let you get
+
+56:02.260 --> 56:05.180
+the first stab at this because I think this is part of a bigger picture right
+
+56:05.180 --> 56:10.140
+here it's not just Ben Shapiro who is doing this and this is once again this
+
+56:10.140 --> 56:14.780
+mentality that if you keep repeating the lie it becomes a truth you have to stay
+
+56:14.780 --> 56:18.060
+on narrative you keep yelling and screaming about it and at the end of the
+
+56:18.060 --> 56:21.580
+day a lot of people don't do their research don't look down the rabbit hole
+
+56:21.580 --> 56:26.540
+don't try to understand it just becomes automatic truth Hamas is barbaric and
+
+56:26.540 --> 56:31.980
+what they're doing to the Jewish citizens is awful due dissonance boys and instead
+
+56:32.020 --> 56:36.900
+you could have so substituted in there there's a novel virus we had to do
+
+56:36.900 --> 56:41.180
+something the mRNA is great it's probably gain function so it could come
+
+56:41.180 --> 56:48.180
+again and keep screaming it over and over or just don't question it question
+
+56:48.180 --> 56:55.620
+everything else vigorously that's the trick
+
+56:55.620 --> 57:01.700
+I don't know if I have to play any more of this but I'm gonna let it go just for
+
+57:01.700 --> 57:06.980
+a second to see why I recorded it for so long take a shot at it whenever you
+
+57:06.980 --> 57:13.860
+hear very over-the-top stories like this they're almost never true and the real
+
+57:13.860 --> 57:20.980
+problem is that is it an over-the-top story to say that a RNA molecule that was
+
+57:20.980 --> 57:25.300
+found in a bat cave has circulated the goal for three and a half years is that
+
+57:25.300 --> 57:30.700
+an over-the-top story is it an over-the-top story to say that we had to close
+
+57:30.700 --> 57:36.940
+down a planet for an RNA molecule is that an over-the-top story at all that
+
+57:36.940 --> 57:46.580
+doesn't come across as a little odd they can see it with this over-the-top story
+
+57:46.580 --> 57:55.220
+bodies burned doesn't seem that over-the-top to me but okay sure do you see my
+
+57:55.220 --> 58:01.980
+point you're these people that watch social media and try to extract truth
+
+58:01.980 --> 58:07.660
+from it without seeing the people for the bamboozled people that they are I'm
+
+58:07.660 --> 58:10.620
+not saying these guys are bad guys they don't know any better they're trying to
+
+58:10.620 --> 58:17.860
+help but they're traumatized it's not post-traumatic stress disorder this is
+
+58:17.860 --> 58:23.340
+just stress disorder and they're trying desperately to keep up with the
+
+58:23.380 --> 58:28.820
+contradictions and the incongruities and they're trying to keep up with this
+
+58:28.820 --> 58:34.700
+this fake maze that's coming at us in the background here and solve all the
+
+58:34.700 --> 58:40.420
+moving parts and duck out of the way and they think they're doing a good job but
+
+58:40.420 --> 58:46.740
+that's actually the dance that the controllers want them to do we got to say
+
+58:46.740 --> 58:52.860
+that this is bullshit and stand still while this illusion passes us by that's
+
+58:52.940 --> 58:58.380
+what we need to do and then determine how it is that we're going to take
+
+58:58.380 --> 59:01.740
+control back of our country it's not going to be by electing anybody that I
+
+59:01.740 --> 59:08.260
+know right now I'll listen to a little more at look government's gonna
+
+59:08.260 --> 59:14.220
+government propaganda department's gonna propaganda is it's the job of the
+
+59:14.220 --> 59:18.700
+media to tell the truth and we have a media that not only doesn't tell the
+
+59:18.700 --> 59:25.100
+truth but amplifies these kinds of lives and they do it every time as soon as
+
+59:25.100 --> 59:31.340
+you know whether it's Gulf of Tonkin whether it's it's Viagra the kadafi
+
+59:31.340 --> 59:36.100
+giving his soldiers Viagra when whenever you hear these stories that are just
+
+59:36.100 --> 59:43.540
+really incredible nine times out of ten they're either completely fabricated or
+
+59:43.580 --> 59:48.900
+grossly exaggerated but they have to imagine if we could get these people to
+
+59:48.900 --> 59:53.940
+consider the possibility that there's biological reason to believe that the
+
+59:53.940 --> 01:00:02.380
+pandemic was just such an operation gosh we're close yet so damn far we're so
+
+01:00:02.380 --> 01:00:08.180
+close but we're so damn far it's unbelievable
+
+01:00:09.060 --> 01:00:14.700
+to present this because it's part of maintaining the narrative of worthy and
+
+01:00:14.700 --> 01:00:20.380
+unworthy victims as Chomsky calls it right because they the underlying message
+
+01:00:20.380 --> 01:00:26.020
+is that these people are savages these people are barbaric these people have
+
+01:00:26.020 --> 01:00:30.460
+invited the treatment that they get from Israel because look at how they behave
+
+01:00:30.460 --> 01:00:35.540
+right they're savages they can't be trusted outside of the concentration
+
+01:00:35.540 --> 01:00:39.780
+camp that's been built for them because I'm gonna leave it I don't know how far
+
+01:00:39.780 --> 01:00:46.280
+it's gonna go but I don't want to cover that too much it was my intention just
+
+01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:52.220
+to show you that they are very easily able to process the idea that we've been
+
+01:00:52.220 --> 01:00:56.620
+lied to on certain fronts but not on other fronts and that's a little
+
+01:00:56.620 --> 01:00:59.540
+frustrating to me
+
+01:01:06.540 --> 01:01:13.460
+every liar is a murderer did you know that
+
+01:01:14.100 --> 01:01:29.540
+every liar because when you lie you kill the spirit of life in the mind of the
+
+01:01:29.540 --> 01:01:38.860
+person who believes the lie you are ill-affecting somebody when you're
+
+01:01:38.860 --> 01:01:49.660
+lying and you're ill-affecting yourself so you become Shaitan Shaitan in Arabic
+
+01:01:49.660 --> 01:01:56.300
+is one whose evil is not just limited to oneself but he is
+
+01:01:56.300 --> 01:02:02.420
+spread to others and once you start lying you're lying to somebody about
+
+01:02:02.420 --> 01:02:10.820
+something or someone so now in lying the evil of yourself is being spread to
+
+01:02:10.820 --> 01:02:19.420
+somebody else you becoming becoming not yet a devil but you're on your way
+
+01:02:19.980 --> 01:02:28.180
+Jesus said I know you you are of your father who the devil now let's go look
+
+01:02:28.180 --> 01:02:31.260
+deeper into that
+
+01:02:34.860 --> 01:02:40.220
+so I really do believe that they lied to us about a dangerous novel virus and
+
+01:02:40.220 --> 01:02:46.380
+that they had a plan to use a nonspecific test and financial incentives to
+
+01:02:46.420 --> 01:02:52.100
+employ that test in order to convert a much larger portion of all cause
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+01:02:52.100 --> 01:02:58.300
+mortality to a new disease other than flu and pneumonia and to make that new
+
+01:02:58.300 --> 01:03:05.940
+disease a national security priority and I believe that this likely was
+
+01:03:05.940 --> 01:03:11.820
+facilitated by the dissemination of an RNA infectious clone which is the only
+
+01:03:11.860 --> 01:03:20.980
+real version of a RNA molecule that's of any danger to anybody a self-replicating
+
+01:03:20.980 --> 01:03:26.700
+RNA molecule that can be dispersed a pure version of this so that it could be
+
+01:03:26.700 --> 01:03:31.980
+tracked by its sequence there is a distinct biological possibility that if
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+01:03:31.980 --> 01:03:37.420
+it was distributed in quantity and in purity that it might even limitedly
+
+01:03:37.460 --> 01:03:44.140
+spread similar to how these clones can be shown to spread between cell cultures
+
+01:03:44.140 --> 01:03:49.660
+and animals in the laboratory but the spread is limited and the lifespan is
+
+01:03:49.660 --> 01:03:57.780
+limited because of the infidelity of RNA replication and we got here by three
+
+01:03:57.780 --> 01:04:03.940
+years of studying the swarm swarm dynamics and studying the idea that
+
+01:04:03.940 --> 01:04:10.660
+there are these huge portions of an RNA swarm during replication which are
+
+01:04:10.660 --> 01:04:15.900
+incompetent RNA noise that's created by these molecules when they're put into
+
+01:04:15.900 --> 01:04:22.360
+culture or put into an animal and that RNA noise can be cleaned up with
+
+01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:28.940
+sequencing reactions it can be made into a consensus sequence but the biology of
+
+01:04:28.940 --> 01:04:32.100
+that noise and the biology of that swarm has never been adequately
+
+01:04:32.140 --> 01:04:38.060
+represented here because the biology of that swarm belies the fact that it
+
+01:04:38.060 --> 01:04:42.900
+cannot sustain a pandemic and it certainly can't sustain a pandemic with
+
+01:04:42.900 --> 01:04:49.500
+pure sequences that are trackable around the world for years where an
+
+01:04:49.500 --> 01:04:55.620
+omicron variant in its transmissibility but relatively a virulence can immunize
+
+01:04:55.700 --> 01:05:02.220
+the world these are mythologies that have been laid down by a sophisticated
+
+01:05:02.220 --> 01:05:09.620
+group of actors in front and behind the scenes to make sure that everybody
+
+01:05:09.620 --> 01:05:14.820
+believes the gain of function is real and that pandemic potential is real so
+
+01:05:14.820 --> 01:05:20.420
+that they can slowly but surely invert the sovereignty of our children into a
+
+01:05:20.460 --> 01:05:27.380
+permission system that's based on digital ID and the illusion of consensus
+
+01:05:27.380 --> 01:05:32.180
+that we've been under for the last three years was wittingly and unwittingly
+
+01:05:32.180 --> 01:05:38.700
+created by many of the people that we considered heroes that's the truth
+
+01:05:38.700 --> 01:05:44.460
+almost nobody that we really considered a hero is in fact that they have been
+
+01:05:44.460 --> 01:05:49.620
+wittingly or unwittingly co-opted many of them may have been forced to be
+
+01:05:49.620 --> 01:05:55.060
+co-opted men forced to accept the fate of you push this narrative you don't
+
+01:05:55.060 --> 01:06:05.100
+cross these third rails and you'll be okay if you do not so much I've met a lot
+
+01:06:05.100 --> 01:06:12.460
+of people who were scared I've gotten a sense that a lot of people are scared so
+
+01:06:12.460 --> 01:06:16.340
+I have no doubt in my mind that not everybody is having a good time being
+
+01:06:16.340 --> 01:06:24.140
+a dissident but the hot tubs look fun but these people have laid down this
+
+01:06:24.140 --> 01:06:27.660
+consensus of the fact that there is pandemic potential and bad caves that
+
+01:06:27.660 --> 01:06:33.540
+can be accessed through cell culture and also through animal passage and
+
+01:06:33.540 --> 01:06:39.500
+enhanced through genetic methods and that is the same illusion of consensus
+
+01:06:39.500 --> 01:06:45.380
+that has us trapped that as us as I have characterized a Scooby-Doo trying to
+
+01:06:45.380 --> 01:06:50.300
+solve the mystery of where it came from and once you try to solve that mystery
+
+01:06:50.300 --> 01:06:55.820
+you accept that it's there and you're bamboozled that's the enchantment that
+
+01:06:55.820 --> 01:07:01.420
+allowed us to think that we needed to reformulate how we think about respiratory
+
+01:07:01.420 --> 01:07:09.180
+disease that we need to reformulate how we think about all cause mortality that
+
+01:07:09.180 --> 01:07:12.660
+there's a new way of responding to a respiratory virus with great big
+
+01:07:12.660 --> 01:07:19.100
+antibodies that can't even cross that barrier and they needed to reinforce
+
+01:07:19.100 --> 01:07:23.700
+this mythology of vaccination which has been under attack for much longer than
+
+01:07:23.700 --> 01:07:30.060
+2020 and in fact was quite rigorously under assault for the five years
+
+01:07:30.060 --> 01:07:36.780
+preceding the pandemic I was blissfully unaware as many of you were not all of
+
+01:07:36.820 --> 01:07:42.540
+you I know and this misleading that's now above my head allowed them to
+
+01:07:42.540 --> 01:07:48.460
+ventilate people to stop the spread it allowed them to use Remdesivir for more
+
+01:07:48.460 --> 01:07:55.140
+than three years now in some places medazolam in the UK and not treat
+
+01:07:55.140 --> 01:08:00.820
+bacterial pneumonia for almost two years in certain places as Denny
+
+01:08:00.820 --> 01:08:05.900
+Rankor has so eloquently shown us but then they did a bunch of other things to
+
+01:08:05.900 --> 01:08:10.260
+make sure that all of us were affected and all of us were forced to choose
+
+01:08:10.260 --> 01:08:16.540
+whether to conform or not and so when the vast majority of us conform it's
+
+01:08:16.540 --> 01:08:20.740
+another illusion of consensus when you walked around and you saw everybody in
+
+01:08:20.740 --> 01:08:29.420
+their cars with masks on that's an illusion of consensus and that's how they
+
+01:08:29.420 --> 01:08:41.380
+got us hey everyone I know there's a lot going on right now in Israel and believe
+
+01:08:41.380 --> 01:08:47.060
+me I don't think any innocent civilians should die but let's face it this shit's
+
+01:08:47.060 --> 01:08:54.260
+been going on for 90 years and when I go on acts which used to be Twitter and
+
+01:08:54.700 --> 01:09:02.620
+look at the spaces tonight every space is about Israel except one every single
+
+01:09:02.620 --> 01:09:10.820
+space Mario has a space right now with 17,000 people in it talking about Israel
+
+01:09:10.820 --> 01:09:17.620
+now unless you know someone over there unless it's family or a friend there's
+
+01:09:17.660 --> 01:09:24.580
+nothing we can do about that and I'll say it again I don't want to see any
+
+01:09:24.580 --> 01:09:37.140
+innocent civilians die on either side but this innocent civilian is dead and he
+
+01:09:37.140 --> 01:09:48.820
+wasn't killed by a bomb he was killed by lies and I want people to know I've
+
+01:09:48.820 --> 01:09:55.220
+always been honest with all of you I'm about ready to give up that's how I feel
+
+01:09:55.220 --> 01:10:00.500
+the last two weeks have been fucking horrible but when the whole world just
+
+01:10:00.500 --> 01:10:07.740
+wants to talk about Israel now are you fucking kidding me this vaccine has
+
+01:10:07.740 --> 01:10:17.220
+killed ten times more than bombs in Israel or Hamas or Hezbollah and you know
+
+01:10:17.220 --> 01:10:22.140
+what honestly I don't give a fuck about that that's no offense to anybody but I
+
+01:10:22.140 --> 01:10:28.060
+don't I don't feel fuck about it I don't look at it I don't watch it CNN had this
+
+01:10:28.060 --> 01:10:32.180
+story on that I was just flipping through channels today and CNN said oh
+
+01:10:32.180 --> 01:10:42.380
+there's children sleeping without blankets oh is there Sean is dead okay
+
+01:10:42.380 --> 01:10:47.140
+more people have died from the vaccine than what's going on over there and it
+
+01:10:47.140 --> 01:10:51.900
+seems to me like a lot of people aren't talking about it anymore and believe me
+
+01:10:51.900 --> 01:10:56.580
+I'm not talking about my followers you are all the greatest people on earth you
+
+01:10:56.580 --> 01:11:01.620
+know what's going on but the rest of the world isn't fighting about it I sent
+
+01:11:01.620 --> 01:11:08.980
+Mary our message begging him please we do a space about Sean he always has
+
+01:11:08.980 --> 01:11:14.940
+thousands of people in this space I have two lawsuits launched one against Pfizer
+
+01:11:14.940 --> 01:11:19.940
+and one against the Canadian government is anyone else doing a lawsuit right now
+
+01:11:19.940 --> 01:11:26.100
+not that I know of are we just gonna forget about this and move on because
+
+01:11:26.100 --> 01:11:30.620
+the second you do that that's when it all goes away that's what they're
+
+01:11:30.620 --> 01:11:37.460
+hoping you do I'm not saying that this Israel things a distraction but it sure
+
+01:11:37.460 --> 01:11:44.940
+is distracting a lot of you where it's the only thing that matters right now the
+
+01:11:44.940 --> 01:11:51.740
+only thing that matters to me right now is my son is gone this Thanksgiving that
+
+01:11:51.740 --> 01:11:57.100
+just went by for Canadians I said to myself okay Dan you've got this it's
+
+01:11:57.100 --> 01:12:02.860
+just a fucking meal it's not that big a deal but then I look over at John's empty
+
+01:12:02.860 --> 01:12:08.500
+seat where he was there with me for everything's giving and I was fucked up
+
+01:12:08.500 --> 01:12:15.740
+yet again daily pain every day from morning till night there's only one way
+
+01:12:15.740 --> 01:12:22.220
+for us to get justice if it's I win this lawsuit it will open the doors for
+
+01:12:22.220 --> 01:12:29.300
+many other people to win lawsuits I mean hey if you if if you want to talk
+
+01:12:29.300 --> 01:12:34.940
+about Israel all fucking day then have matter I don't know anyone over there
+
+01:12:34.940 --> 01:12:45.260
+on both sides none I want Sean to get justice everyone in Canada
+
+01:12:45.420 --> 01:12:51.060
+should be behind this boy right now it should be the only thing you're talking
+
+01:12:51.060 --> 01:12:55.540
+about as a fellow Canadian
+
+01:12:58.140 --> 01:13:09.940
+justice must come for Sean it's more important to me than anything else I pray
+
+01:13:09.940 --> 01:13:16.620
+you will all continue the fight and do what's right
+
+01:13:21.380 --> 01:13:30.340
+so rest in peace Sean there were a lot of other people killed in Canada by the
+
+01:13:30.340 --> 01:13:37.300
+shot not just Sean and that list needs to be populated and justice needs to be
+
+01:13:37.300 --> 01:13:41.780
+brought for every one of them a lot of people in America and around the world
+
+01:13:41.780 --> 01:13:48.580
+are convinced that there was a laboratory leak of a bad cave zone oasis and that
+
+01:13:48.580 --> 01:13:52.420
+something had to be done and that these shots probably saved a lot of people's
+
+01:13:52.420 --> 01:13:57.500
+lives and that's a lie that's an illusion of consensus that has even been
+
+01:13:57.500 --> 01:14:06.940
+reinforced by a Nobel Prize and that my friends that that crime and the
+
+01:14:06.940 --> 01:14:11.740
+crime the part of that crime that was that was committed in Israel is also
+
+01:14:11.740 --> 01:14:16.220
+being covered up by what's going on in Israel right now
+
+01:14:19.860 --> 01:14:28.060
+the illusion of consensus must be broken it doesn't matter whether they're lying
+
+01:14:28.060 --> 01:14:34.860
+about a lab leak or lying about a release or lying about a bad cave or a
+
+01:14:34.900 --> 01:14:40.700
+market they're lying they're lying about the fidelity of the tests the
+
+01:14:40.700 --> 01:14:48.260
+fidelity of the sequencing the value of certain early treatments and not others
+
+01:14:49.900 --> 01:14:58.620
+they're lying about spread and it doesn't matter whether it's an endemic
+
+01:14:58.620 --> 01:15:01.180
+background that they're lying about the protocols were murder and
+
+01:15:01.180 --> 01:15:04.020
+transfections not medicine it doesn't matter whether it was an infectious
+
+01:15:04.020 --> 01:15:08.380
+clone release which is what I think it was
+
+01:15:09.420 --> 01:15:13.060
+that's the one that ties the most things together and has the most
+
+01:15:13.060 --> 01:15:18.580
+flexibility you want three cases that are real and the rest is lies infectious
+
+01:15:18.580 --> 01:15:23.700
+clones you want hundreds of thousands of cases that are real and the rest are
+
+01:15:23.700 --> 01:15:30.780
+lies infectious clones have added but it's not a leak and it's not a point
+
+01:15:30.780 --> 01:15:38.260
+release in Wuhan that's spread by airplane that's not possible that's not
+
+01:15:38.260 --> 01:15:47.220
+possible understand that it had to be moved around the world it had to be
+
+01:15:47.220 --> 01:15:54.020
+placed there otherwise the sequences are lies if the sequences are real clones
+
+01:15:54.020 --> 01:15:59.900
+were used everywhere where the sequences were the same done that's how this works
+
+01:15:59.900 --> 01:16:11.900
+you want to call that a transfection agent that would be the same thing but
+
+01:16:11.900 --> 01:16:15.980
+the trap has always been one of the other traps has always been the no virus
+
+01:16:15.980 --> 01:16:21.900
+position why because the no virus position is very very close to the truth
+
+01:16:21.900 --> 01:16:29.780
+but completely wrong which is perfect you got this fake debate over here about
+
+01:16:29.780 --> 01:16:35.180
+lab leak or natural virus and everybody covering up and arguing about it you got
+
+01:16:35.180 --> 01:16:39.140
+all the way over here people saying that there was nothing they're lying about
+
+01:16:39.140 --> 01:16:42.700
+everything but then those people that say that they're lying about everything
+
+01:16:42.700 --> 01:16:45.860
+really don't care about the protocols that much they care a lot more about
+
+01:16:45.860 --> 01:16:52.740
+foyer requests they don't really care much about explaining
+
+01:16:52.740 --> 01:16:57.980
+transfection they care more about the electromagnetic properties of water at
+
+01:16:57.980 --> 01:17:03.660
+microscopic scale not that that's not important
+
+01:17:03.660 --> 01:17:12.300
+now that we can see this trap we need to start helping people move closer to the
+
+01:17:12.300 --> 01:17:18.220
+door of the cave I don't think that's the door of the cave obviously the recent
+
+01:17:18.220 --> 01:17:21.980
+events in the past few days have shown us that that's not the door of the cave
+
+01:17:21.980 --> 01:17:26.020
+yet we might not be anywhere near the door of the cave we might have to swim
+
+01:17:26.020 --> 01:17:33.300
+yet before we get out it was a conflated background signal that means
+
+01:17:33.300 --> 01:17:39.380
+anything anything that that test could pick up that they knew it could pick up
+
+01:17:39.380 --> 01:17:45.500
+and lied about and told us that if we would have basically they imply that if
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+01:17:45.500 --> 01:17:48.580
+they would have rolled this test out in 2019 there wouldn't have been anything
+
+01:17:48.580 --> 01:17:53.820
+anywhere except for maybe in Wuhan where it first leaked or Mike Callahan was
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+01:17:53.860 --> 01:17:58.260
+first tracking it and we wouldn't have found anything anywhere else that's the
+
+01:17:58.260 --> 01:18:07.300
+lie they're telling you and they're telling you that lie because they want
+
+01:18:07.300 --> 01:18:11.700
+to invert your children's sovereignty so that they can take their data and so
+
+01:18:11.700 --> 01:18:16.260
+that they can control them and monitor them with digital ID and with digital
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+01:18:16.260 --> 01:18:23.820
+monitoring devices like an advanced Apple Watch it might not solve the
+
+01:18:23.820 --> 01:18:29.300
+problem that they think it's going to solve but they believe it will and this
+
+01:18:29.300 --> 01:18:34.140
+same group of people also believes that it's important for all of the mouth
+
+01:18:34.140 --> 01:18:39.720
+breathers on the planet to believe in vaccines these people also believe it's
+
+01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:42.660
+really important for all the mouth breathers on the planet to believe in
+
+01:18:42.660 --> 01:18:53.460
+disease and vaccines and gain a function and pandemics when we know that the
+
+01:18:53.460 --> 01:18:58.300
+biology isn't there the biology doesn't support it that we know that they don't
+
+01:18:58.300 --> 01:19:01.500
+understand the immune system with that fidelity that we know that they can't
+
+01:19:01.500 --> 01:19:10.020
+track RNA and DNA at that size scale with that fidelity and they know that we
+
+01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:14.840
+know but they're going forward anyway because they think that they can get away
+
+01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:21.200
+with it that we can't teach this biology in time to save our children but I think
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+01:19:21.200 --> 01:19:27.760
+we can I really do and that's why despite the fact that it actually hurts for me
+
+01:19:27.760 --> 01:19:33.360
+to talk right now I did not break the streak tonight intramuscular injection
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+01:19:33.360 --> 01:19:36.560
+of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune
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+01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:42.340
+system is dumb according to me transfection is not immunization please stop
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+01:19:42.340 --> 01:19:48.880
+all transfections in humans mike van denberg mixed-day
+
+01:19:50.540 --> 01:19:55.880
+please please stop all transfection everything you do has already bent up
+
+01:19:55.880 --> 01:19:59.540
+mike van denberg mixed-day
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+01:19:59.540 --> 01:20:08.780
+they are trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary that I know
+
+01:20:08.780 --> 01:20:14.980
+for sure and I always get it wrong you guys like
+
+01:20:29.540 --> 01:20:59.540
+I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do
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+01:20:59.540 --> 01:21:29.540
+That's my boss I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that I'm not going to do that
+
+01:21:29.540 --> 01:21:31.540
+Let's just start till November.
+
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+But there's Scooby-Doo in the other chair.
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+Surprise!
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+It's the Scooby hat the eight-man was wearing.
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+Now, there's real talent.
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+We sure fooled him, Scooby.
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+We ought to be in the movies.
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+Thank you.
+
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+Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen.
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+04:00.000 --> 04:10.000
+Good evening, good afternoon, good morning, good evening, good night.
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+From Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, this is Giga on biological.
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+Music
+
+04:44.000 --> 04:48.000
+Ironically, it doesn't feel that much better today.
+
+04:48.000 --> 04:51.000
+It might sound a little better, but it's not really any better.
+
+04:51.000 --> 04:55.000
+The brick wall is a little more visible today than it was yesterday, though.
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+That I know for sure.
+
+04:59.000 --> 05:04.000
+I hope another fish introduction is not too annoying for everybody.
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+05:10.000 --> 05:14.000
+There was no spread in New York City that we can see.
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+05:14.000 --> 05:18.000
+Infectious clones are the only real dangerous form of RNA.
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+05:18.000 --> 05:26.000
+placebo badges were distributed and transferred to healthy mammals as dope.
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+Protocols were murdered, gained in functions and mythology.
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+The Scooby-Doo is real and you've been fooled to solving it because the players are committed to the lies.
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+Music
+
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+The question is whether Zappa was trying to save us or just doing what his dad's boss wanted him to do, right?
+
+06:00.000 --> 06:04.000
+That's the question.
+
+06:04.000 --> 06:07.000
+I don't know, it's tough to say.
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+Music
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+Music
+
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+Anyway, welcome. This is Giga on biological eye resistance.
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+06:47.000 --> 06:51.000
+Low noise information brief brought to you by a sore throat biologist.
+
+06:51.000 --> 06:55.000
+It's the 16th of October, 2023.
+
+06:55.000 --> 06:58.000
+And it dawned on me.
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+06:58.000 --> 07:01.000
+We had on the clips a couple days ago.
+
+07:01.000 --> 07:06.000
+And I thought it would be kind of appropriate to discuss that
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+07:06.000 --> 07:10.000
+as a model of the Scooby-Doo.
+
+07:10.000 --> 07:17.000
+The bait on TV and social media is not that different than any clips, actually.
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+07:17.000 --> 07:22.000
+Really not that different at all because it involves so much.
+
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+Stop lying!
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+07:23.000 --> 07:26.000
+That's what it involves. It involves lying.
+
+07:26.000 --> 07:44.000
+Equipses and equinoxes and knowledge of where the sun would be when and where the moon would be when have been used to create mythologies to control people.
+
+07:44.000 --> 07:49.000
+People have been governed by these mythologies for millennia.
+
+07:49.000 --> 08:01.000
+And so it's not that strange for us to be in a situation where we are being governed by mythologies, by lies, by stories.
+
+08:01.000 --> 08:06.000
+We are inherently a storytelling species. It's how we communicate.
+
+08:06.000 --> 08:13.000
+And they have used this against us to tell us a story about a possible cover-up of a lab leak.
+
+08:14.000 --> 08:18.000
+And yet another book is coming out that talks about the cover-up of a lab leak.
+
+08:18.000 --> 08:22.000
+It's actually called the Great COVID cover-up.
+
+08:22.000 --> 08:29.000
+The author of it is one of the two primary performers in 2020.
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+Performing with Tony Fauci on Capitol Hill repeatedly.
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+And I would argue that this was part of an elaborate hoax to get you to think that it was not only a mystery to be solved, but that you could see through it.
+
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+That we could all see through the cover-up and we figured it out.
+
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+Obviously.
+
+08:55.000 --> 08:59.000
+And I think they did this with all of these people.
+
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+Some of them were wittingly involved, none of them were unwittingly involved, misled by trusted sources who were involved.
+
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+And that's why I thought it was really important to track down, I don't think I have this set up again, I had to track down all of the people that have been involved in this because most or all of them
+
+09:28.000 --> 09:32.000
+seem to have some kind of conflict of interest.
+
+09:32.000 --> 09:38.000
+And that's a big problem.
+
+09:38.000 --> 09:54.000
+Just one second please, just let me get this in focus.
+
+09:54.000 --> 10:04.000
+That's why we've been working on this people map because we want to find out who's telling the truth and who isn't it, who's been recruited and who hasn't and how can we tell them apart.
+
+10:04.000 --> 10:21.000
+And I've come to the conclusion that we can tell them apart by this illusion of consensus about a novel virus, for which we had to do something which might have included repurposed drugs, it might have included Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, it might not have.
+
+10:21.000 --> 10:27.000
+It might have included lockdowns and masks depending on whose story you heard.
+
+10:27.000 --> 10:32.000
+But the illusion of consensus about a novel virus is unshakable.
+
+10:32.000 --> 10:42.000
+The illusion of consensus that the world was in danger and that the world had to do something is unshakable.
+
+10:42.000 --> 10:55.000
+And for the most part, the idea that one of the things we had to do was come up with a vaccine and we did the best that we could with the mRNA's, not so much with the adenoviruses.
+
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+And that after three years it's become obvious that America has been covering up their involvement in the likely lab leak that occurred in Wuhan of a gain of function virus.
+
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+And that through this bamboo summit, through these people, we have been, we have fooled ourselves into believing that gain of function is the source of this pandemic and even if it wasn't, it will be the source of the next one.
+
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+And solving that mystery has been characterized by me as a Scooby-Doo.
+
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+Essentially because the Scooby-Doo cartoon involves teenagers solving a mystery where all they have to do is get up the courage to take the mask off of the monster and they will find an average guy who's a liar.
+
+11:40.000 --> 11:50.000
+An average guy who was in the case of the cartoon lying about being a monster in order to scare people away from his scam.
+
+11:50.000 --> 11:58.000
+And in this case we are being led to believe that if we unmask the monsters, we will solve this mystery.
+
+11:58.000 --> 12:06.000
+If we unmask the criminals, if we pursue putting people in jail, the right people to be put in jail will be put in jail.
+
+12:06.000 --> 12:11.000
+And so all we got to do is push and let these people are the greatest pushers over here.
+
+12:11.000 --> 12:16.000
+Boy, they're so good. They're such good fighters. All we got to do is send money to them.
+
+12:16.000 --> 12:21.000
+Why would I do anything when I could just send my money to Steve Kirsch and let him fight?
+
+12:21.000 --> 12:30.000
+Why would I do anything myself when I could just subscribe as a paid subscriber to Robert Malone, along with his million other subscribers and hope that he can do it?
+
+12:30.000 --> 12:35.000
+I mean, if Robert Malone, the inventor of RNA can't save us who can then, right?
+
+12:35.000 --> 12:38.000
+That's the illusion of consensus.
+
+12:38.000 --> 12:42.000
+There's nothing you can do. All the jobs are filled.
+
+12:42.000 --> 12:50.000
+The argument is taking place and the argument is taking place between people who know much more than you, so why even bother trying to contribute?
+
+12:50.000 --> 12:57.000
+Grab a seat, grab a box of popcorn, and enjoy the ride.
+
+12:57.000 --> 13:04.000
+And so I've been trying to be as critical as possible as I move these pieces around the board.
+
+13:04.000 --> 13:14.000
+I also have myself my role in the assembly of this cluster. You know what?
+
+13:14.000 --> 13:20.000
+On Thursday, I'm going to have Joseph Lee MD on my show again for the second time.
+
+13:20.000 --> 13:27.000
+That show will take place at 5 p.m. Eastern. It's a little earlier than normal right at the end of the work day.
+
+13:27.000 --> 13:33.000
+I hope you'll join us. I think it'll be a very vigorous conversation about the true biology that has been ignored.
+
+13:33.000 --> 13:40.000
+For the duration of the pandemic and a pretty good summary of what I think will be things that we can use.
+
+13:40.000 --> 13:46.000
+I had the Thanksgiving dinner table, et cetera.
+
+13:46.000 --> 14:02.000
+So in case you aren't aware, transfection is not immunization and any combination of substances injected intramuscularly with the intent of augmenting the immune system is also pretty crazy at this stage.
+
+14:02.000 --> 14:08.000
+So it's not a matter of what's true that counts, but a matter of what is perceived to be true.
+
+14:08.000 --> 14:11.000
+And we have been victims of a spectacular commitment to lies.
+
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+And what I'm suggesting to you is this show that has been going on for a very long time.
+
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+Much longer than the pandemic.
+
+14:20.000 --> 14:25.000
+This show is almost exclusively produced by lying.
+
+14:25.000 --> 14:34.000
+You don't need a whole lot of real things and actually the less real things you have involved in the show.
+
+14:34.000 --> 14:43.000
+The harder it will be for the audience to see through it and to spot the scenery.
+
+14:43.000 --> 14:49.000
+Because the consistency will remain the same and it will be the consensus that that dupes them.
+
+14:49.000 --> 14:56.000
+The collective commitment of the cast is what makes a play successful.
+
+14:56.000 --> 15:01.000
+It's not the lights or the stage or even the scenery.
+
+15:01.000 --> 15:08.000
+Because in the end you walked in, you paid the ticket, you sat down in the chairs when the lights were still on and the curtain was still closed.
+
+15:08.000 --> 15:12.000
+Then the light went off and the curtain opened.
+
+15:12.000 --> 15:18.000
+So if you are able to suspend your disbelief despite the fact that you know it's vague,
+
+15:18.000 --> 15:24.000
+then the only conclusion to come to it is the commitment of the cast of the play.
+
+15:24.000 --> 15:28.000
+That's why actors get Tony's.
+
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+That's why stage acting is such an art.
+
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+Because it is real communication.
+
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+It's real reenactment of situations, of emotions that are real.
+
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+This art has been developed over thousands of years.
+
+15:45.000 --> 15:51.000
+Don't think for one second that everybody who appears to be authentic on television is indeed authentic.
+
+15:51.000 --> 15:53.000
+Please.
+
+15:53.000 --> 16:04.000
+Don't fool yourself into believing that every influencer, every podcaster, because they seem authentic is authentic.
+
+16:04.000 --> 16:06.000
+There are tricks.
+
+16:06.000 --> 16:14.000
+So you may not remember this movie, you may not have seen it.
+
+16:14.000 --> 16:15.000
+It's Apokolipto.
+
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+It's not a lot of dialogue in the movie, so a lot of people didn't like it.
+
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+What I found so interesting about this was, is that in Apokolipto, there's a scene where his tribe has been captured and they're being sacrificed serially from the top of a Mayan or Aztec pyramid.
+
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+I think it's a Mayan pyramid, but I don't know.
+
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+I apologize if I get it wrong.
+
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+It's Mel Gibson movie, so it's probably culturally incorrect anyway, right?
+
+16:41.000 --> 16:47.000
+So the point is, is an indigenous population in Central or Mexico, Central America or Mexico.
+
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+And there are step pyramids, so it's supposed to be South America.
+
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+And it's one tribe that was captured by a much larger tribe brought back to their city.
+
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+And they've been walked to the top of a pyramid to be sacrificed.
+
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+But what happens is there is an eclipse happening, and the king and the queen and the witch doctors all know that the eclipse is coming today.
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+And that's why they're sacrificing all these people today, until the start of the eclipse, and then they will scream to the god, come back, come back if we have sacrificed enough, come back, and then the sun will come back, and all the people will rejoice.
+
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+And there will be a huge consensus made that everybody understands what just happened.
+
+17:40.000 --> 17:41.000
+We were all here.
+
+17:41.000 --> 17:42.000
+We saw it.
+
+17:42.000 --> 17:44.000
+We heard him say it.
+
+17:44.000 --> 17:48.000
+Just like the consensus at the beginning of the pandemic, where we all heard it.
+
+17:48.000 --> 17:49.000
+We all saw it on TV.
+
+17:49.000 --> 17:50.000
+We all experienced the lockdown.
+
+17:50.000 --> 17:51.000
+We were all wearing masks.
+
+17:51.000 --> 17:52.000
+I remember it too.
+
+17:52.000 --> 17:55.000
+Don't you?
+
+17:55.000 --> 17:58.000
+Everybody remembers it.
+
+17:58.000 --> 18:01.000
+So obviously there was a lot. I mean, obviously there was a virus circulating.
+
+18:01.000 --> 18:03.000
+Otherwise, why in the world would we have stopped flying?
+
+18:03.000 --> 18:04.000
+I flew.
+
+18:04.000 --> 18:05.000
+The planes were empty.
+
+18:05.000 --> 18:08.000
+It was crazy.
+
+18:08.000 --> 18:12.000
+Watch carefully, because it's no different.
+
+18:12.000 --> 18:16.000
+So empty winded.
+
+18:24.000 --> 18:27.000
+So good.
+
+18:27.000 --> 18:30.000
+He took the seal.
+
+18:33.000 --> 18:35.000
+Who bought the helmet?
+
+18:35.000 --> 18:38.000
+Come on, get out of here.
+
+18:57.000 --> 19:00.000
+Come on, get out of here.
+
+19:00.000 --> 19:03.000
+Come on, get out of here.
+
+19:03.000 --> 19:05.000
+Come on, get out of here.
+
+19:05.000 --> 19:08.000
+Come on, get out of here.
+
+19:08.000 --> 19:10.000
+Excited you, buddy.
+
+19:10.000 --> 19:15.000
+Excited you, buddy.
+
+19:15.000 --> 19:21.000
+He checks again to see if the eclipse has started, and he notices that it has.
+
+19:21.000 --> 19:26.000
+And so he looks at the king, and he tells the king that they're about to do it.
+
+19:26.000 --> 19:29.000
+See this one? Yes.
+
+19:33.000 --> 19:35.000
+Now this guy's going to go nuts.
+
+19:35.000 --> 19:39.000
+A little bit of shamanistic theater.
+
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+Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
+
+20:26.000 --> 20:56.000
+oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh
+
+20:56.000 --> 21:14.280
+natural phenomenon go to waste never let a natural phenomenon go to waste perfect
+
+21:14.280 --> 21:20.400
+natural phenomenon is an eclipse if you can convince people that you know how
+
+21:20.400 --> 21:27.760
+to dispel an eclipse by sacrificing people all day and that the sun will
+
+21:27.760 --> 21:36.600
+come back and answer you you can create the illusion of consensus that's
+
+21:36.600 --> 21:48.120
+impossible to break and rule an entire civilization knowing one simple date
+
+21:50.400 --> 22:02.720
+one date that no one else knows how you know even the king doesn't know how he
+
+22:02.720 --> 22:13.760
+knew but it doesn't matter because the king rules based on his show is it any
+
+22:13.760 --> 22:19.280
+different for the rest of the rulers in the world if somebody came and told you
+
+22:19.280 --> 22:28.360
+that you're gonna be able to use a natural signal we're gonna use a natural
+
+22:28.360 --> 22:37.000
+signal to do this to the world and if you don't go along with it you'll be down
+
+22:37.000 --> 22:41.680
+there at the bottom instead of up here at the top with us you don't think that's
+
+22:41.680 --> 22:53.080
+possible I'm sure that's how it happened and it was with this an illusion of
+
+22:53.080 --> 22:57.960
+pandemic potential that could come out of laboratories an illusion of pandemic
+
+22:57.960 --> 23:02.520
+potential that could be accessed through cell culture animal passage and genetic
+
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+manipulation and this modern form of an eclipse has been used to bamboozled
+
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+governments and bureaucracies around the world as well as the citizens that they
+
+23:18.800 --> 23:25.560
+govern into believing this pandemic potential is real however rare it is in
+
+23:25.560 --> 23:33.240
+badcaves it's a lot less rarer in laboratories and therefore they are
+
+23:33.240 --> 23:38.680
+going to invert the way that our kids think about sovereignty
+
+23:41.480 --> 23:48.080
+if you were going on a winter road trip you'd pack warm clothes charge your phone
+
+23:48.080 --> 23:53.400
+and ensure your car had the right tires being prepared can protect you from
+
+23:53.400 --> 23:59.680
+troubles ahead so you can be safe your health deserves the same attention this
+
+23:59.680 --> 24:05.840
+winter it's likely that influenza COVID-19 and other respiratory viruses will be
+
+24:05.840 --> 24:11.400
+circulating at the same time but you can protect yourself if you're offered an
+
+24:11.400 --> 24:17.160
+influenza vaccine and a COVID vaccine or booster you should take it especially
+
+24:17.160 --> 24:21.560
+if you're an older person a pregnant woman or having underlying health
+
+24:21.560 --> 24:26.920
+conditions or if you're a health worker vaccines remain your best
+
+24:26.920 --> 24:33.360
+defense they can help prevent severe illness and save your life in addition
+
+24:33.360 --> 24:37.880
+you can protect yourself and your loved ones by constantly assessing your risk
+
+24:37.880 --> 24:42.640
+of being exposed to viruses and practicing measures such as hand washing
+
+24:42.640 --> 24:48.280
+sons by constantly assessing your risk of being exposed to viruses seeing your
+
+24:48.280 --> 24:52.920
+risk of being ex constantly assessing your ones by constantly assessing your
+
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+risk of being exposed to viruses
+
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+vaccines are that's extraordinary don't you think by constantly assessing your
+
+25:04.040 --> 25:10.040
+risks to viruses in addition you can protect yourself and your loved ones by
+
+25:10.040 --> 25:14.960
+constantly assessing your risk of being exposed to viruses and practicing
+
+25:14.960 --> 25:19.760
+measures such as hand washing sneezing into your elbow ventilating in
+
+25:19.760 --> 25:23.960
+clothes this is the European commercial distancing or wearing a mask sent to me
+
+25:23.960 --> 25:30.840
+by someone in all good preparation is key to prevention so get vaccinated now
+
+25:30.840 --> 25:36.480
+and continue to protect yourself and others for a healthier winter and enjoy
+
+25:36.480 --> 25:39.640
+life's adventures
+
+25:40.400 --> 25:52.600
+it's not stopping sorry try this one this is a really nice one I think vaccines
+
+25:52.600 --> 26:00.880
+are about to change the world vaccines are about to change the world again for
+
+26:00.880 --> 26:05.600
+generations vaccines have helped us live longer safer lives protecting us from
+
+26:05.600 --> 26:12.160
+smallpox, polio, measles, and other devastating diseases now a new type of
+
+26:12.160 --> 26:17.640
+vaccine can make even more diseases from HIV to coronaviruses a thing of the
+
+26:17.640 --> 26:19.600
+past
+
+26:19.600 --> 26:24.800
+mRNA is gonna get rid of age two vaccines usually work like this a tiny part of a
+
+26:24.800 --> 26:29.600
+virus called an antigen is injected into your body it's not enough to make you
+
+26:29.600 --> 26:34.800
+sick but it's just enough to make your immune system notice your immune system
+
+26:34.800 --> 26:39.280
+then creates antibodies, soldier cells that are trained to fight a particular
+
+26:39.280 --> 26:44.520
+antigen once this happens your body will remember how to quickly produce more
+
+26:44.520 --> 26:49.800
+antibodies if so if you're ever exposed to the real virus your body will already
+
+26:49.800 --> 26:55.320
+know exactly how to defend itself but what if you could skip that part and just
+
+26:55.320 --> 26:59.600
+train your immune system to make antibodies for specific diseases that's
+
+26:59.600 --> 27:06.480
+what mRNA vaccines do mRNA stands for messenger how did it skip any genetic
+
+27:06.480 --> 27:11.480
+code that tells ourselves what to do like make new proteins or repair damage
+
+27:11.480 --> 27:19.240
+mRNA is naturally found in all of ourselves but in 2005 so mRNA tells cells
+
+27:19.240 --> 27:24.840
+to make proteins and to repair damage and so we can use mRNA to make proteins
+
+27:24.840 --> 27:31.320
+and repair damage this is University of Penn where they came from these two
+
+27:31.320 --> 27:37.760
+careco and and Wiseman and this is the kind of cartoon crap that they've been
+
+27:37.760 --> 27:41.600
+shoving down my parents neck for three years and my brother's neck for three
+
+27:41.600 --> 27:47.640
+years and all of the teachers at the school that my kids go to for the last
+
+27:48.640 --> 27:58.240
+three years complete BS biology made dumb simple and they just said that it
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+was gonna kill or cure HIV and coronavirus they did devastating diseases all
+
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+around the world are cured by vaccines every year
+
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+that's what mRNA vaccines do mRNA stands for messenger RNA it's a piece of
+
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+genetic code that tells ourselves what to do like make new proteins or repair
+
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+damage mRNA is naturally found in all of ourselves but in 2005 infectious
+
+28:29.300 --> 28:34.120
+disease experts at Penn Medicine discovered how to modify mRNA to safely
+
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+make ourselves create protein similar to those found in some viruses once those
+
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+proteins are made our immune systems can then create antibodies for that virus
+
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+today the same technology is being used by scientists around the world to
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+develop vaccines for all kinds of diseases including coronaviruses that
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+can cause future pandemics researchers at Penn Medicine are developing mRNA
+
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+vaccines for diseases like herpes HIV sickle cell anemia and even cancer and
+
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+as we continue to push for new breakthroughs in mRNA technology we're
+
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+paving the way for a safer healthier future for all of us
+
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+why should you find that scary well one of the things that I haven't talked
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+about yet that people have been testing me about for a while that they're right
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+about but it gets more complicated comes back to the objection and observation
+
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+that doctor sorry not doctor but Kevin McKernan made on my stream a couple times
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+in 2021 or 2022 when he came on my stream both of the times he came on my
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+stream to talk about how the RNA itself it was supposedly packaged in the shot
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+was impure and that actually the RNA was full of fragments and rather than a
+
+30:03.840 --> 30:09.200
+nice tight band at a certain weight of the spike protein RNA was a smear all
+
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+the way up so are all the way down so lots of tiny fragments of mRNA from the
+
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+spike apparently but they didn't sequence them all because they couldn't do that
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+there's a trouble with small RNA molecules small RNA molecules can
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+interfere with other RNA molecules because if they have a mology they can
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+bind to one another not so dissimilar to how two strands of DNA can get a
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+needle two strands of RNA with overlapping reflective sequences can
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+and kneel together and that can cause their degradation because double
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+stranded RNA is intolerated so one of the ways that neuroscientists and
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+physiologists around the world have found to perturb systems on the bench is to
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+inject small interfering RNAs with the intention of creating short strands of
+
+31:09.400 --> 31:14.360
+double stranded RNA related to a protein that they would like to knock down and
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+then the mRNA for that proteins expression will be degraded because the
+
+31:19.040 --> 31:23.080
+double stranded RNA will be degraded and therefore the messenger RNA will be
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+destroyed so in these shots which Kevin McCurnan came on my stream two years ago
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+to show us with the mRNA was impure any endogenous transcripts which are
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+expressing mRNA which have some overlap or homology with the RNA
+
+31:44.560 --> 31:51.240
+fragments which are found in the LNP's could have the effect of being a short
+
+31:51.240 --> 31:56.800
+interference RNA binding to endogenous RNAs and causing their premature
+
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+degradation changing the way that they would be expressed and their
+
+32:02.560 --> 32:08.000
+regulation who knows how long this would last who knows how long it would occur
+
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+who knows how often it would occur with all the pseudo uridine substitutions
+
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+that are in there so this is something that I haven't talked about but I've been
+
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+asked to talk about a couple times it's definitely something to be concerned
+
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+about but it's one of these things that it's a compounding set of variables that
+
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+doesn't just add another few possibilities it adds a whole another layer of
+
+32:30.680 --> 32:37.960
+complexity to the problem but small interfering RNAs are real and the RNA
+
+32:37.960 --> 32:44.480
+contamination in the mRNA shots which as I said was discussed multiple times on
+
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+my stream by myself and particular on my stream with Kevin McCurnan as
+
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+potential for interference with endogenous RNAs and that potential can't
+
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+really be adequately assessed without sequencing all those small RNAs and
+
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+finding out what they are should they be derived from the spike then we're
+
+33:05.160 --> 33:11.360
+still looking for short homologies in the spike sequence with endogenous
+
+33:11.360 --> 33:17.280
+transcripts which we know already from Dolores Cahill and others analysis that
+
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+there's a lot of mimicry there with regard to proteins so the only question
+
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+is whether there's mRNA overlap there from the codon optimizing and from the
+
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+pseudo uridine chemical substitutions that would lead to that hybridization
+
+33:32.960 --> 33:39.200
+and destruction of endogenous transcripts I'll explain that in some in some
+
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+coming stream hi everyone it's Mandy Cohen CDC Director and I am here at Morris
+
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+Brown College I'm here with the president Dr. James and I'm here with a great
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+partner of ours from the conference of national black churches this is Jackie
+
+33:56.560 --> 34:02.000
+Burton and she's amazing and they have been working with the CDC on vaccinations
+
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+throughout the pandemic they've done more than a million COVID vaccines and I
+
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+can't tell you how important a partnership with our historically black
+
+34:10.200 --> 34:14.200
+colleges and partnerships with our black churches around the country has been I
+
+34:14.200 --> 34:17.400
+just wanted you guys to get a chance to meet them so why didn't I turn it over
+
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+to Dr. James first and then I'd love to hear from Jackie as well sure my name is
+
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+Kevin James I'm honored to serve as a president of Morris Brown College HBCU
+
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+founded in 1881 142 years ago we are related to partner with you all today
+
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+to provide this service to our community continue to watch Morris Brown
+
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+College as we continue to expand what we're doing here that will be called
+
+34:37.480 --> 34:41.960
+the hard reset welcome thank you all right and Dr. Burton tell us about your
+
+34:41.960 --> 34:46.440
+just a legend so did you say the hard reset tell me about the work tell us
+
+34:46.440 --> 34:50.680
+about your just there will be called the hard reset welcome thank you all right
+
+34:50.680 --> 34:56.120
+and Dr. Burton tell us about your just a legend so first thank you all but tell
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+me about the work that you've been doing vaccinating the community great the
+
+35:00.200 --> 35:06.680
+CDC contacted us at at the CNBC the conference of national black churches
+
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+when the pandemic first started and said can you help us get the word into the
+
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+african-american community well of course we can black churches or the center of
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+our communities this is from yesterday and it is
+
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+work they have I won't give you the number but multi millions of dollars
+
+35:22.520 --> 35:28.280
+since 2020 and we are delighted we're a third year of funding and looking
+
+35:28.280 --> 35:32.520
+toward the fourth year but it is a made made a difference our churches
+
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+through our sixth largest historically black denominations
+
+35:35.800 --> 35:39.800
+have worked very hard and that's how we ended up with this
+
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+over a million vaccines through our churches through community centers
+
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+nursing homes even some hospitals but it has made a difference
+
+35:48.040 --> 35:53.240
+we could not have done this unless CDC believed in us well we love that
+
+35:53.240 --> 35:57.080
+partnership and we've been talking a lot about building trust and so
+
+35:57.080 --> 36:00.840
+making sure that we have access points for folks can get the vaccine close to
+
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+their community as well as from people that they trust
+
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+and hear from folks that they trust so we are grateful again to be here
+
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+at historically black universities and to partner with
+
+36:12.680 --> 36:16.280
+our black churches make sure you're going out and protecting yourself get
+
+36:16.280 --> 36:23.320
+vaccinated today covid flu and RSV covid flu and RSV
+
+36:23.320 --> 36:30.440
+holy crap going through the black churches
+
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+giving them millions of dollars
+
+36:38.280 --> 36:41.640
+i feel an obligation to get in touch with those people and try to change their
+
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+minds but i don't got millions of dollars
+
+36:47.000 --> 36:56.120
+i'm speechless this is from today this is
+
+36:56.120 --> 37:00.680
+christian jorston the guy who came up with the pcr test at the beginning of the
+
+37:00.680 --> 37:06.520
+pandemic for the who and it got reviewed and published in less than 24 hours
+
+37:06.520 --> 37:09.720
+and then about two weeks later kevin mccurnan and
+
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+peter mcculler and a couple other people came out
+
+37:13.080 --> 37:18.200
+mike eden maybe or maybe not peter mcculler maybe it was mike eden
+
+37:18.200 --> 37:22.520
+who came out against the pcr test but not against the pcr as a diagnostic
+
+37:22.520 --> 37:29.000
+against the primers that the who used so kevin mccurnan has been
+
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+an operator since the very beginning of the pandemic
+
+37:31.720 --> 37:35.160
+and i don't mean that in necessarily a great way
+
+37:35.160 --> 37:38.760
+he has been helping to control the narrative and control
+
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+dissident people for quite some time
+
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+and linking him so early with a couple people like mike eden is really
+
+37:48.200 --> 37:53.560
+unfortunate but it also shows the consistency of his presence
+
+37:53.560 --> 37:57.720
+listen to what christians got to say here and then the other issue as
+
+37:57.720 --> 38:02.200
+as we are with the virus is communication and disinformation
+
+38:02.200 --> 38:05.960
+and this is such a complex issue there are many media people here who exactly
+
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+know what i'm speaking about
+
+38:09.160 --> 38:13.080
+this is really the intervention in the beginning of a pandemic
+
+38:13.080 --> 38:16.520
+so there are two interventions that are really efficient before we have
+
+38:16.520 --> 38:20.440
+a drug or vaccine this is diagnostic testing
+
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+and then it's political decision making and once this political decision making
+
+38:25.080 --> 38:29.400
+is influenced and contorted by disinformation and propaganda
+
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+we are lost and there are rules that are not being fulfilled
+
+38:34.920 --> 38:39.160
+by the media themselves they really have to look in the mirror
+
+38:39.160 --> 38:43.080
+and there is another role that some sometimes
+
+38:43.080 --> 38:46.840
+ignored a little bit which is the role of science itself
+
+38:46.840 --> 38:51.320
+so we shouldn't have anybody who has some academic degree
+
+38:51.320 --> 38:56.040
+talking about the heart of the issue in the middle of a pandemic we
+
+38:56.040 --> 38:59.560
+have to address the institutions of science to make
+
+38:59.560 --> 39:03.560
+some selection to set up panels of experts who are really experts
+
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+and who wouldn't push into the media but who are
+
+39:07.160 --> 39:12.760
+somehow qualified to summarize the state of knowledge
+
+39:12.760 --> 39:16.840
+and this can only happen via the institutions of science these
+
+39:16.840 --> 39:21.480
+institutions have to offer this function to society
+
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+and these institutions of science they are actually consisting of scientists
+
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+of top scientists and it's really about being a little bit less
+
+39:32.920 --> 39:36.840
+opportunistic as a scientist being a little bit
+
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+more of service to society that's my wow
+
+39:42.840 --> 39:46.040
+that is amazing
+
+39:47.560 --> 39:51.960
+he's just said that we can't just have everybody with a little bit of
+
+39:51.960 --> 39:57.400
+expertise talking about the pandemic during a pandemic
+
+39:57.400 --> 40:01.640
+and that academic institutions have to play a role in controlling this
+
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+in the selection he's describing a technocracy
+
+40:08.200 --> 40:13.320
+he's describing an ivory tower wherein the the priests of the ivory tower choose
+
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+their representatives who go to the top of the pyramid and
+
+40:18.600 --> 40:25.000
+tell us when the eclipse is going to come and what the eclipse means
+
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+and whose heads are going to roll down the stairs of the pyramid
+
+40:30.600 --> 40:35.800
+because misinformation and disinformation once they get a hold
+
+40:35.800 --> 40:41.160
+then everything is lost and so the most important thing at the beginning of
+
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+the pandemic is to control the information says the German
+
+40:47.240 --> 40:50.360
+the German liar
+
+40:50.920 --> 41:01.720
+this is about the use of an eclipse to control the world
+
+41:01.720 --> 41:10.680
+we have been told that an RNA molecule can circle the globe like a brush fire
+
+41:10.680 --> 41:19.400
+and endanger economies and cultures and generations of people
+
+41:20.360 --> 41:24.280
+that's no different than being led to believe that a a morning of human
+
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+sacrifice can make sure that an eclipse only
+
+41:28.200 --> 41:32.440
+lasts six minutes instead of 60 years
+
+41:34.680 --> 41:39.400
+this is precisely what has happened to us
+
+41:39.400 --> 41:44.680
+and this what you see here is spectacular commitment to that lie
+
+41:44.680 --> 41:49.000
+spectacular commitment to what the eclipse means
+
+41:49.000 --> 41:55.000
+and spectacular commitment to why the eclipse went away and it's all lies
+
+41:55.000 --> 41:59.880
+it's all lies
+
+42:19.000 --> 42:21.080
+you
+
+42:49.000 --> 42:51.080
+you
+
+43:19.000 --> 43:21.000
+you
+
+43:49.000 --> 43:51.000
+you
+
+44:19.000 --> 44:21.000
+you
+
+44:49.880 --> 44:51.880
+you
+
+45:02.280 --> 45:07.320
+it just makes it seem like it's just different sides fighting all the time
+
+45:07.320 --> 45:11.800
+but at certain moment it stopped being that right it kind of became something
+
+45:11.800 --> 45:18.280
+different and i don't know really what it is i don't know i don't
+
+45:18.280 --> 45:22.280
+i don't tend to want to care too much either because
+
+45:22.280 --> 45:26.520
+there are so many more people with skin in the game than me
+
+45:26.520 --> 45:29.800
+and gaza has a border with egypt
+
+45:29.800 --> 45:35.640
+and it's just way too complicated for me to wade into a history
+
+45:35.640 --> 45:41.160
+that even with a phd level of study i probably couldn't still claim to be an
+
+45:41.160 --> 45:43.560
+expert
+
+45:44.120 --> 45:50.440
+and this video kind of belittles the more recent history of the land
+
+45:50.440 --> 45:55.720
+by equating it with the ancient history of the land
+
+45:55.720 --> 46:01.160
+as if it's just always been fighting and it's always been kind of fair
+
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+because everybody can kill everybody
+
+46:04.360 --> 46:08.440
+and i i'm not really sure that it's always been fair and i i've heard a lot of
+
+46:08.440 --> 46:11.080
+people argue otherwise a lot of smart people argue
+
+46:11.080 --> 46:16.040
+otherwise from presidents to diplomats to
+
+46:16.040 --> 46:19.080
+academic thinkers
+
+46:19.640 --> 46:23.720
+and yet suddenly the whole theater has started again and it's a theater just
+
+46:23.720 --> 46:27.240
+like any other of this theater where
+
+46:27.240 --> 46:31.640
+extreme views that can't possibly be correct
+
+46:31.640 --> 46:34.760
+are the only ones that are really offered up
+
+46:34.760 --> 46:39.720
+as alternatives to choose from
+
+46:39.720 --> 46:42.520
+so i'm going to let it play out but i just want you to know that i'm not playing
+
+46:42.520 --> 46:45.000
+it because i think it's a great video like that
+
+46:45.000 --> 46:49.240
+adequately describes the history i'm going to play a second video after this
+
+46:49.240 --> 46:54.360
+that i think is more important to hear because it's a message from someone with
+
+46:54.360 --> 46:57.800
+more skin in the game than me
+
+46:57.800 --> 47:03.240
+um i'm going to escape this here i'm going to find that video for you now
+
+47:03.240 --> 47:08.440
+because it didn't want to play in powerpoint which was kind of annoying
+
+47:08.440 --> 47:24.360
+i think it'll play when i just play it outside of powerpoint
+
+47:31.960 --> 47:34.280
+what
+
+47:34.360 --> 47:38.440
+oh man it's not translating so i got to go get it off of youtube sorry about
+
+47:38.440 --> 47:42.920
+this i apologize this is me not having a team
+
+47:42.920 --> 47:46.680
+this is me not having a team
+
+47:48.040 --> 47:53.480
+let's see i want to
+
+47:54.120 --> 47:57.720
+come on joker joker
+
+48:02.680 --> 48:04.200
+yes here we go
+
+48:11.800 --> 48:15.000
+i'm taking my self off screen because i really this is about gabor
+
+48:18.600 --> 48:23.000
+this is one of the issues that's closest to my heart and it has been for a long
+
+48:23.000 --> 48:28.360
+time so you know my history i don't know to repeat it but i'm a i'm personally a
+
+48:28.360 --> 48:34.200
+holocaust survivor as an infant um i barely survived
+
+48:34.200 --> 48:38.040
+my my grandparents were killed in Auschwitz
+
+48:38.040 --> 48:43.560
+and most of my extended family was killed um that's my personal background
+
+48:43.560 --> 48:49.160
+i grew up ashamed of my Jewishness in uh in Hungary
+
+48:49.160 --> 48:52.600
+after the war i was still bullied for being Jewish
+
+48:52.600 --> 48:56.520
+and i remember one of my friends coming to my rescue once
+
+48:56.520 --> 49:00.120
+saying leave him alone is not his fault that he's Jewish
+
+49:00.120 --> 49:04.440
+it's a fault but it's not his fault this was the defense
+
+49:04.440 --> 49:10.280
+so i grew up with that in my teenage years in canada i became a Zionist
+
+49:10.280 --> 49:15.800
+this dream of the Jewish people resurrected in their
+
+49:15.800 --> 49:21.320
+historical homeland and the barbed wire of Auschwitz being replaced by the
+
+49:21.320 --> 49:26.120
+boundaries of a of a Jewish state with a powerful army
+
+49:26.120 --> 49:32.840
+i i funded liberating it was exhilarating to believe in that dream
+
+49:32.840 --> 49:37.240
+and i absorbed all the all that perspective all that point of view and
+
+49:37.240 --> 49:43.320
+i really believed in it and then i found out that it wasn't exactly like that
+
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+that in order to make this Jewish dream a reality we had to visit a nightmare
+
+49:47.960 --> 49:54.840
+on the local population you couldn't there was a Zionist slogan called
+
+49:56.040 --> 50:00.040
+a land without a people for a people without a land
+
+50:00.040 --> 50:04.040
+but there was no people but there was no land without a people
+
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+there was people living there who'd been living there
+
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+for hundreds and years or even longer as a matter of fact
+
+50:14.520 --> 50:18.440
+do you want to hear something really interesting and david bongoyon was the
+
+50:18.440 --> 50:23.000
+first prime minister of isro actually subscribed to this he said this
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+who are the Palestinians because the jews
+
+50:29.080 --> 50:32.840
+in uh roman times never all all of them never left
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+Palestine many of them stayed there and some of them hundreds of
+
+50:37.960 --> 50:43.320
+leaders converted to islam so guess what the Palestinians are
+
+50:43.320 --> 50:47.800
+in some way there might be descendants of ancient jews
+
+50:47.800 --> 50:52.120
+there are cousins to say the least no matter you look at it
+
+50:52.120 --> 50:55.560
+and you know in there's no way you could have ever created
+
+50:55.640 --> 51:04.840
+a Jewish state without oppressing and expelling the local
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+population which is what they did in 1947 beginning in 1947
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+51:11.240 --> 51:15.640
+and first of all the british empire protection
+
+51:15.640 --> 51:19.240
+you know but they did this and then in 1948
+
+51:19.240 --> 51:24.120
+Israeli historians Israeli historians Jewish Israeli historians
+
+51:24.120 --> 51:28.120
+have shown without a doubt that the explosion of the Palestinians was
+
+51:28.120 --> 51:32.040
+persistent it was pervasive it was cruel
+
+51:32.040 --> 51:37.560
+it was murderous and with deliberate attempt
+
+51:37.560 --> 51:44.280
+so that's what's called the nakpa in arabic the disaster or the catastrophe
+
+51:44.280 --> 51:50.360
+now in isro now in canada there's a law that you cannot deny the holocaust
+
+51:50.360 --> 51:55.160
+i don't believe in such laws by the way but in isro you're not allowed to mention
+
+51:55.160 --> 51:58.680
+the nakpa even though it was at the very basis of the
+
+51:58.680 --> 52:05.240
+foundation of the state so once i became aware of all this
+
+52:05.240 --> 52:11.320
+i was okay well yeah we created this beautiful dream
+
+52:11.320 --> 52:14.840
+but we imposed a nightmare on somebody else
+
+52:14.840 --> 52:17.800
+and then i visited the occupied territories
+
+52:17.800 --> 52:22.120
+russell during the first end of fire
+
+52:22.600 --> 52:25.880
+i cried every day for two weeks and what i saw
+
+52:25.880 --> 52:31.080
+the brutality the occupation the petty harassment
+
+52:31.080 --> 52:38.200
+the murderousness of it the burning down of al-
+
+52:38.200 --> 52:43.240
+the palestinian or cutting down of palestina all of groves
+
+52:43.240 --> 52:49.000
+the denial of water rights the humiliations
+
+52:49.240 --> 52:53.720
+and this went on and it's much worse now than it was then
+
+52:53.720 --> 53:00.200
+so this is the background and it couldn't have been in any other way
+
+53:00.200 --> 53:04.760
+because again you couldn't have created that exclusive jewish state
+
+53:04.760 --> 53:07.720
+without oppressing or explaining the local population
+
+53:07.720 --> 53:12.360
+it's the longest ethnic cleansing operation
+
+53:12.360 --> 53:16.840
+in the 20th and 21st centuries it's still going on
+
+53:16.840 --> 53:19.880
+and who are these people in gaza now you have to go to gaza
+
+53:19.880 --> 53:24.040
+you have to go there to really appreciate it it's a small area
+
+53:24.040 --> 53:27.480
+where there are these multiple hundreds of thousands of people
+
+53:27.480 --> 53:32.520
+who are those people the direct children or grandchildren of the people
+
+53:32.520 --> 53:37.240
+that are expressed from isro or what is not isro now here's the outrage
+
+53:37.240 --> 53:41.160
+and i'd like to use iron's friend in the states to tell me this
+
+53:41.160 --> 53:44.040
+i as a jew
+
+53:44.760 --> 53:49.800
+i could land in Tel Aviv tomorrow and demand citizenship
+
+53:49.800 --> 53:53.320
+under the right law of the writer return
+
+53:53.320 --> 53:56.840
+but my palestinian friend in Vancouver, Panakawas,
+
+53:56.840 --> 54:00.360
+who was born in jewish so on can't even visit
+
+54:00.360 --> 54:04.440
+so what stands as a note so who is gaza this desperate
+
+54:04.440 --> 54:10.040
+blockaded uh let me stop again am i talking too
+
+54:10.040 --> 54:13.720
+long about this i'm sorry i just this is so important to me and i know so much
+
+54:13.720 --> 54:16.360
+about it that i i don't even know where to stop
+
+54:16.360 --> 54:20.040
+so then you have these miserable people packed into this horrible
+
+54:20.040 --> 54:24.680
+people call it the world's largest outdoor prison which is what it is
+
+54:24.680 --> 54:29.320
+incredible poverty 50 unemployment
+
+54:29.320 --> 54:34.920
+from us is an islamic organization that was originally
+
+54:34.920 --> 54:38.600
+encouraged by isro and supported by isro is a
+
+54:38.600 --> 54:43.960
+counterweight to the secular palestinian liberation organization
+
+54:43.960 --> 54:47.560
+which is what i didn't want to deal with
+
+54:48.520 --> 54:54.040
+and given those conditions of course people will go for extremist leadership
+
+54:54.040 --> 54:57.080
+that's what people do when they're miserable and hopeless
+
+54:57.080 --> 55:02.920
+deprived of any possibly whatsoever you don't have to support hamas policies
+
+55:02.920 --> 55:06.360
+to stand up for palestinian rights but that's a complete
+
+55:06.360 --> 55:10.840
+falsity but there were free elections in gaza
+
+55:10.840 --> 55:16.040
+monitored by international community they were declared to be the
+
+55:16.040 --> 55:19.560
+freest elections ever held in the in the air world
+
+55:19.560 --> 55:25.160
+and hamas happened to win and when happened hamas won that election
+
+55:25.160 --> 55:28.840
+israel united states immediately organized their military coup against
+
+55:28.840 --> 55:34.520
+them which hamas defeated for which the punishment was
+
+55:34.520 --> 55:39.640
+this blockade that deprives hamas of not hamas but gaza
+
+55:39.640 --> 55:45.240
+of food of medical supplies of sufficient water
+
+55:45.240 --> 55:51.960
+i could go on and on and on and then you have this conflict
+
+55:51.960 --> 55:56.120
+and then every time there's a conflict israel
+
+55:56.120 --> 55:59.160
+moves the lawn that's the expression they use you know what they call it
+
+55:59.160 --> 56:02.040
+they call it mowing the lawn by which they mean
+
+56:02.040 --> 56:05.320
+the mass murder of palestinian civilians
+
+56:05.320 --> 56:10.040
+now is it true that that doesn't shoot rockets into israel
+
+56:10.040 --> 56:15.320
+killing innocent civilians yes it is do i support that
+
+56:15.320 --> 56:20.200
+no i don't but when it comes to the death of innocent
+
+56:20.200 --> 56:24.280
+civilians israel killed 20 000 lebanese civilians
+
+56:24.280 --> 56:28.440
+in 1982 using illegal weapons like cluster bombs
+
+56:28.440 --> 56:32.360
+in the war that ignores justification whatsoever
+
+56:32.360 --> 56:37.000
+i could go on and on and on and on except i'll say that
+
+56:37.000 --> 56:41.560
+the disproportionate power and responsibility and oppression
+
+56:41.560 --> 56:46.520
+is so markedly on one side that you think the worst thing you can say about
+
+56:46.520 --> 56:51.000
+hamas multiplied by a thousand times
+
+56:51.000 --> 56:55.480
+and it still will not meet the israeli repression and killing
+
+56:55.480 --> 57:00.360
+and this possession of palestinians if we can
+
+57:00.360 --> 57:04.680
+if after two thousand years we can look for liberation and freedom
+
+57:04.680 --> 57:10.920
+why can't the palestinians if you look at the western press
+
+57:10.920 --> 57:16.040
+when hong kong demonstrators throw stones at the police in hong kong
+
+57:16.040 --> 57:20.280
+that's considered to be heroism in the american press
+
+57:20.280 --> 57:24.360
+when in me and mar the demonstrators throw
+
+57:24.360 --> 57:27.800
+slingshots at the army at the oppressive army
+
+57:27.800 --> 57:30.600
+they considered to be heroes in the western press
+
+57:30.600 --> 57:34.840
+when palestinian kids throw stones at the israel soldiers
+
+57:34.840 --> 57:40.040
+they're called terrorists and israel gets away with a lot more without
+
+57:40.040 --> 57:43.640
+much less criticism in the western press than any other
+
+57:43.640 --> 57:48.600
+country um i'll say one more thing i was recently
+
+57:48.600 --> 57:52.520
+contacted by a palestinian woman from jergal
+
+57:52.520 --> 57:56.600
+she runs a program for palestinian children who spend time in israeli
+
+57:56.600 --> 58:02.040
+jails 14 15 16 years or jail for months or years
+
+58:02.040 --> 58:05.080
+sometimes they can't see their families for months
+
+58:05.080 --> 58:07.720
+and she runs a program for them you know she does
+
+58:07.720 --> 58:12.760
+she meditates with them she does sufis or sufi dura she dancing with them
+
+58:12.760 --> 58:17.800
+swirling dancing to bring them out of their stress day she says we don't have
+
+58:17.800 --> 58:22.440
+post-traumatic stress disorder here because the trauma is never post
+
+58:22.440 --> 58:27.880
+but traumas daily she said i just wish your Zionist friend
+
+58:27.880 --> 58:32.680
+would visit the occupied territories and Gaza like i have
+
+58:32.680 --> 58:37.960
+and let him speak the way he speaks now he's got any ounce of humanity left
+
+58:37.960 --> 58:40.840
+he would cry like i did for two weeks when i was there
+
+58:40.840 --> 58:45.160
+now we're not living in anti-jurmani anybody can go on youtube
+
+58:45.160 --> 58:49.080
+and listen to illan papi an israeli historian
+
+58:49.080 --> 58:53.720
+told the eloquent on israeli history who's living living in england now
+
+58:53.720 --> 58:57.000
+because life became in israel too difficult for him
+
+58:57.000 --> 59:00.920
+anybody can listen to normal fickenstein a jewish professor
+
+59:00.920 --> 59:07.720
+world expert on gaza who was denied ten tenure at his university
+
+59:07.720 --> 59:11.960
+because of his public speaking against israeli policy
+
+59:11.960 --> 59:16.680
+you can listen to any number of in uh israeli defense forces soldiers
+
+59:16.680 --> 59:21.160
+who talk about the brutality that they now regret having committed
+
+59:21.160 --> 59:24.920
+you can listen to israeli pilots who talk about
+
+59:24.920 --> 59:32.360
+why they refuse to fly over gaza because of the atrocities they're made to commit
+
+59:32.440 --> 59:37.240
+you can get all the information you want
+
+59:37.240 --> 59:41.240
+so if anybody these days doesn't know it's not because the information is not
+
+59:41.240 --> 59:44.280
+available it's not what you know it's what you
+
+59:44.280 --> 59:49.640
+could know if you wanted to find out there are no two sides
+
+59:49.640 --> 59:55.560
+i mean it's always a complex question but in terms of power and control and
+
+59:55.560 --> 59:59.480
+it's pretty straightforward there was a land with the people living there
+
+59:59.480 --> 01:00:02.760
+and other people wanted it they took it over
+
+01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:06.360
+and they continue to take it over and they continue to do
+
+01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:13.240
+to discriminate against or press and dispossessed that other people
+
+01:00:13.240 --> 01:00:22.760
+that's what happened and that's what's happening
+
+01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:36.600
+thank you for watching you can get my book the myth of normal
+
+01:00:36.600 --> 01:00:43.160
+in heart cover of course like always we're selling a book there
+
+01:00:43.160 --> 01:00:48.280
+um but the reason why i play that video is because i really want
+
+01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:55.080
+to make the impression that what i said yesterday still remains true
+
+01:00:55.080 --> 01:00:58.600
+i don't really think that i know what happened
+
+01:00:58.600 --> 01:01:03.480
+i am just absolutely exquisitely sure that we've been lied to for much longer
+
+01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:07.000
+than since 2020
+
+01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:11.400
+but i think that if we focus on the biology and the lies about biology that
+
+01:01:11.400 --> 01:01:15.960
+we've been told specifically about RNA fidelity
+
+01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:23.880
+about infectious clones about the swarm about replication and
+
+01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:29.000
+competent variants about all cause mortality
+
+01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:33.000
+about T cell immunity about linked recognition
+
+01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:37.000
+about the differences between infection at a barrier
+
+01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:40.040
+and transfection
+
+01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:50.520
+and i think that focusing on this can help us to unite the world
+
+01:01:50.520 --> 01:01:55.880
+in a way because we were all lied to in one specific way you know the
+
+01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:59.640
+the jewish people are being lied to in a certain way about what happened to
+
+01:01:59.640 --> 01:02:03.160
+them americans are being lied to in a certain way
+
+01:02:03.160 --> 01:02:07.080
+about what happened here the EU countries are lying to their
+
+01:02:07.080 --> 01:02:10.440
+respective citizens about what happened there
+
+01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:16.920
+but there are red threads that run through all of those lies
+
+01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:20.680
+which could allow everybody in israel and everybody in america and everybody
+
+01:02:20.680 --> 01:02:26.200
+in the EU to see that wow they lied to us about a novel virus
+
+01:02:26.200 --> 01:02:29.560
+about the vulnerability that everybody would have to it
+
+01:02:29.560 --> 01:02:32.760
+about the need to do something about it
+
+01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:37.480
+about the effectiveness of vaccines in the past and the present
+
+01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:42.280
+and about the dangers of gain of function research research as a source
+
+01:02:42.280 --> 01:02:49.160
+of the pandemic and a potential source of a future one
+
+01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:53.560
+and they had every intention of doing this because they started with a lie
+
+01:02:53.560 --> 01:02:57.400
+about a novel virus that we were all vulnerable to
+
+01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:02.760
+and they started with a lie about a series of tests that could find it
+
+01:03:02.760 --> 01:03:07.000
+and they started with a lie about those for the fidelity of those tests and
+
+01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:12.520
+they've formed a consensus in hospital administrations
+
+01:03:12.520 --> 01:03:17.560
+school boards state health boards through a combination of financial
+
+01:03:17.560 --> 01:03:24.360
+incentives and coercion it is possible that these sequences
+
+01:03:24.360 --> 01:03:27.480
+were real at the early part of the pandemic and that they were seated
+
+01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:30.760
+using an infectious clone that's the way that they would do it
+
+01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.920
+it's also possible that no virus ever escaped from anywhere
+
+01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:38.120
+and that it all was an elaborate media hoax
+
+01:03:38.120 --> 01:03:43.960
+that is possible although i don't really see how they could fool all the
+
+01:03:43.960 --> 01:03:50.040
+molecular biologists and all the the people that went
+
+01:03:50.040 --> 01:03:52.840
+along with it and tried to do their best
+
+01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:56.760
+still had to be fooled by the diagnostics and still had to be fooled by some of
+
+01:03:56.760 --> 01:04:03.320
+the biology and that's why i think by using an infectious clone
+
+01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:07.240
+to create the illusion of natural spread
+
+01:04:07.240 --> 01:04:09.240
+would be the way that they could do that where
+
+01:04:09.240 --> 01:04:16.120
+biologists themselves who might realize how ridiculous
+
+01:04:16.120 --> 01:04:20.920
+the concept of a pandemic is would still be fooled by the apparent evidence of
+
+01:04:20.920 --> 01:04:23.960
+a pandemic happening
+
+01:04:24.040 --> 01:04:28.040
+and that's this illusion of consensus about the biology is going to be used to
+
+01:04:28.040 --> 01:04:32.840
+invert our kids rights from sovereignty to permissions
+
+01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:37.000
+this illusion of consensus was created by people on purpose
+
+01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:40.040
+and i'm hot on their trail i believe and so are you
+
+01:04:40.040 --> 01:04:43.400
+by watching this stream
+
+01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:48.600
+they have roped us into believing that there's a mystery to solve
+
+01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:52.840
+and in solving that mystery we've also accepted its premises which include
+
+01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:56.440
+this novel virus and that we don't understand anything about it in that
+
+01:04:56.440 --> 01:05:00.120
+vaccination is a great way to save ourselves from such a novel virus
+
+01:05:00.120 --> 01:05:03.560
+but in the meantime we've had a ventilate to prevent spread
+
+01:05:03.560 --> 01:05:06.040
+remdesivir medazolab are better than nothing
+
+01:05:06.040 --> 01:05:07.480
+etc etc
+
+01:05:12.280 --> 01:05:16.280
+where i forgot to take that out i apologize so
+
+01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:19.960
+it is a consensus that there's a mystery to solve and these are the answers and
+
+01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:22.440
+we don't need
+
+01:05:22.760 --> 01:05:25.800
+to go through this too much but people have asked me to read this
+
+01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:28.200
+so one time i'm just going to do that tonight
+
+01:05:28.200 --> 01:05:32.040
+so in this scenario we've defeated with disease and epidemics in the past
+
+01:05:32.040 --> 01:05:37.000
+using vaccination novel coronaviruses can jump from other species and can
+
+01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:41.720
+pandemic pcr false positives are rare
+
+01:05:41.720 --> 01:05:47.240
+asymptomatic spread is real and there's only some over counting
+
+01:05:47.240 --> 01:05:50.440
+variants are evidence of both spread and continuing evolution of a single
+
+01:05:50.440 --> 01:05:53.880
+SARS virus and we spend money studying viruses
+
+01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:56.520
+including gaining function research those are all
+
+01:05:56.520 --> 01:06:00.120
+parts of this part of the illusion
+
+01:06:00.520 --> 01:06:03.880
+but if you understand that it's a conflated background signals a natural
+
+01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:07.640
+phenomenon like an eclipse that was going to happen anyway
+
+01:06:07.640 --> 01:06:12.040
+like a bunch of RNA that's in the background anyway
+
+01:06:12.040 --> 01:06:16.600
+and now we're going to use pcr to find it
+
+01:06:16.600 --> 01:06:20.200
+and we're going to tell you that that pcr is evidence of spread of a novel
+
+01:06:20.200 --> 01:06:23.880
+virus instead of just something that was always there
+
+01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:28.520
+now you understand why the eclipse analogy is so good
+
+01:06:28.520 --> 01:06:33.640
+this afternoon the gods have demanded that we start sacrificing because that's
+
+01:06:33.640 --> 01:06:37.240
+why it's so drowdy around here
+
+01:06:37.240 --> 01:06:40.520
+so let's get some prisoners and we're going to take them up on top the temple
+
+01:06:40.520 --> 01:06:43.720
+and start rolling them down
+
+01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:47.400
+and when the eclipse comes we'll ask god to come back
+
+01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:53.000
+if we've done what he pleased to please him and then he'll come back
+
+01:06:54.040 --> 01:06:57.880
+so let's just use a novel background signal that we'll test really vigorously
+
+01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:01.560
+for in the first year and then slowly but surely dial up the specificity of
+
+01:07:01.560 --> 01:07:08.280
+the test and slowly dial up the stringent use of it
+
+01:07:08.280 --> 01:07:12.440
+so that essentially with a predictive
+
+01:07:13.080 --> 01:07:20.520
+cycle of the sun we can make a disease appear and disappear again
+
+01:07:20.520 --> 01:07:24.920
+and we can blame it on whatever we want to from lockdowns and masks
+
+01:07:24.920 --> 01:07:29.240
+to the rollout of a highly effective vaccine that saved 19 million people in
+
+01:07:29.240 --> 01:07:32.680
+the first year of its rollout
+
+01:07:33.640 --> 01:07:38.840
+it's nothing more than an eclipse taking advantage of a pre-existing
+
+01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:45.320
+natural phenomenon to tell a story that you can govern people by
+
+01:07:45.320 --> 01:07:48.760
+it's a little trickier than any eclipse because
+
+01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:53.560
+we know more nowadays we're smarter as we think we are
+
+01:07:53.560 --> 01:07:56.600
+and so the hoax needs to be a little bit more elaborate than predicting a
+
+01:07:56.600 --> 01:07:59.400
+natural event
+
+01:08:00.680 --> 01:08:03.880
+but it doesn't really matter whether it's endemic coronaviruses and they're
+
+01:08:03.880 --> 01:08:06.600
+lying about them protocols were murder and
+
+01:08:06.600 --> 01:08:10.520
+transfection is not medicine if it's an infectious clone that they released
+
+01:08:10.520 --> 01:08:15.480
+in different places and then sequenced it cultured it claimed wow look at this
+
+01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:19.800
+need on it the PCR tests are not specific for a
+
+01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:22.920
+particular virus the PCR tests have sources of false positive
+
+01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:27.800
+besides high cycle count respiratory disease that leads to secondary
+
+01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:31.400
+ammonia is a regular cause of death that now went skyrocketing because they
+
+01:08:31.400 --> 01:08:35.320
+decided not to use antibiotics
+
+01:08:35.400 --> 01:08:38.280
+and that's what changing the protocol does
+
+01:08:38.280 --> 01:08:41.960
+additional arms were also caused by the lockdown and specific agents like
+
+01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:45.720
+medazlam and rendezivir but early treatment must be
+
+01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:50.040
+considered protocol by protocol and we've spent money making sure
+
+01:08:50.040 --> 01:08:54.760
+dangers pandemic pand dangerous zoonotic pandemics are
+
+01:08:54.760 --> 01:09:00.200
+taken seriously but we haven't spent money to show that they're real
+
+01:09:00.200 --> 01:09:03.880
+we've just spent money to make sure that they're dangerous taken seriously
+
+01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:12.520
+that's what this these scenarios of a conflated background signal really mean
+
+01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:16.840
+and this is not a viable scenario because they just don't acknowledge any molecular
+
+01:09:16.840 --> 01:09:19.480
+biology then and that there are no signals anywhere and there's no
+
+01:09:19.480 --> 01:09:24.120
+diseases or nothing that's just not possible
+
+01:09:24.120 --> 01:09:27.320
+the worst part is is that i've said it last night and i'll say it again they're
+
+01:09:27.320 --> 01:09:32.120
+more concerned about you pledging and promising that you
+
+01:09:32.120 --> 01:09:35.560
+don't believe in viruses before they'll talk to you
+
+01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:38.680
+and then when they talk to you they want to talk to you about foyer requests and
+
+01:09:38.680 --> 01:09:40.920
+what those mean
+
+01:09:40.920 --> 01:09:44.520
+rather than talking about transfection not being medicine
+
+01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:48.040
+and the protocols being murdered
+
+01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:54.120
+it's a conflated background signal ladies and gentlemen and the players who are
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+covering this background signal use up this eclipse
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+they won't address PCR as a fraud they won't address variants and sequence as
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+a fraud they won't address death certificate fraud
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+they won't address the RNA purity fraud the possibility of small interfering
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+RNAs they won't address the protein folding
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+problem and the idea that some epitopes are not just
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+the sequence of the protein but how the protein folds in three dimensions and
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+epitopes that are created by the folding
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+and so if the codon optimization and the pseudo uradines have caused the
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+protein to fold differently then we're having different epitopes than the
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+natural viral protein they're not talking about
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+transfection in general and since the very beginning unlike me they haven't
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+01:10:40.200 --> 01:10:44.280
+talked about natural immunity they're still not doing it
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+and the reason why is because they want to continue to bamboozle your children
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+with stupid stupid stupid biology really dumb simple
+
+01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:58.200
+or stupid complicated so that they surrender so that they go limp
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+and turn over their medical data and their genetic data of themselves and
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+their kids before this beautiful packed planet of
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+diverse genomes is gone forever
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+Immunization is not transfection ladies and gentlemen
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+and yeah any combination of substances injected
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+the intention of augmenting your immune system is pretty dumb
+
+01:11:27.320 --> 01:11:31.640
+please stop all transfections in humans because they are trying to eliminate
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+the control group i apologize if they're getting a
+
+01:11:35.160 --> 01:11:40.360
+little redundant ladies and gentlemen i've got to kind of
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+keep my wits about me here i can produce a show like this in about an
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+hour and a half and then it takes me another hour to give it
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+if i want to teach a journal club or i want to do a immunology course it's
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+quite a bit more work so it's not that i'm not going to
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+do that again and we're not going to start with that stuff again
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+01:11:59.720 --> 01:12:04.520
+but i feel like this illusion needs so much breaking
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+and it is an illusion of the consensus that people are
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+agreeing on stuff and so i don't know what we gain by
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+01:12:12.840 --> 01:12:16.840
+muddying the water with new science or muddying the water with new neuroscience
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+01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:23.800
+right now because this we're at a crucial moment
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+01:12:23.800 --> 01:12:25.720
+i don't know if we're going to get another chance at
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+2023 and 2024 but after that i think all bets are off
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+if we don't get this out there and it become common knowledge before the
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+01:12:35.240 --> 01:12:38.920
+election i don't really know how it ever gets out
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+so there is going to be more stuff coming but i'm
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+probably going to keep this kind of pace until
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+halloween and then we're going to make a a choice on schedule and a choice on
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+place including going back to youtube as well
+
+01:12:53.240 --> 01:12:58.040
+lots of plans lots of things in the works don't worry
+
+01:12:58.040 --> 01:13:01.800
+we're far from done we've shifted up like one level but we've got many more
+
+01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:05.880
+years to go you know biological is a
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+is a jog or not that hasn't even woken up
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+can't wait for halloween
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+We may need to have a conversation soon, Liam. You're showing up here an awful lot lately.
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+It's good to see you, my friend.
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+I hope you can feel that.
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+I'm going to start to have basketball practice at 7.30, and so I'm going to need to stream before that.
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+Let's not tell November, but we're trying to already shift.
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+Ladies and gentlemen, this is number 42, number 42 in a row, just in case you're keeping track.
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+42 in a row.
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+We scheduled for 60 minutes next.
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+It's going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television.
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+We've only got 15 people watching. Maybe somebody should tweet this out.
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+I always forget to do that. I'm not very good at this.
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+Kids deserve a lot of credit. This town's been flooded with phony 20s for weeks.
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+Oh, it was nothing, really. But old Mr. Pietro posing as the doorman sure had us fooled for a while.
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+He really gave himself away when he put on his little puppet show for us.
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+The real hero was Scooby-Doo. And by the way, where is he?
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+Oh, no. Look at him.
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+Like I said before, what a ham.
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+Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
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+Oh, God, and my voice still hurts like hell, but you know what?
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+It's the 17th of October, and this is, as I said earlier, 42 in a row.
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+I'm going to break that streak for a little sore throat.
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+We're not going to get all the way through this.
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+I forgot that this is a little slow.
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+Let's see if I can fix this.
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+Oh, there we go. That fixed it.
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+That fixed it.
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+Ladies and gentlemen, there was no spread in New York City.
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+Infectious clones are the only real threat as far as R&A goes.
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+The SIBO batches were likely distributed to make things probable,
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+and transfection and healthy animals is dumb.
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+Protocols were murdered, gain of function is a mythology.
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+The Scooby-Doo mystery that you think you're solving is real.
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+We've got to save our family and friends from it, because these players are committed to lies.
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+And that'll keep everybody solving this mystery and the mysteries of the future
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+if we don't expose their lies.
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+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
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+This is Giga Home Biological, a high resistance low noise information brief
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+brought to you by a biologist.
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+It is the 17th of October, 2023. My name is Jonathan Cooley.
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+I'm coming to you live from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in the great state of Pennsylvania
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+in the United States of America.
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+07:09.000 --> 07:14.000
+It often sounds like I'm on a starship because, in fact, I am.
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+In the back of my garage, I also have a mock-up starship enterprise
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+which I can shift to with a click of my mouse.
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+Oh, wait, I have to also push this button.
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+See, I'm not very good at this. I told you that a million times.
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+The starship enterprise that I'm trapped on is a starship enterprise
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+which has fallen out of orbit, so to speak, because of a rupture in time.
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+And I'm going to try and explain that on Halloween over the course of a whole day on YouTube.
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+07:51.000 --> 07:58.000
+So mark that on your calendar that once the workday is done on Halloween,
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+JC on a bike is going to start streaming live and it's going to be a Halloween spectacular.
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+And that's why I've been using this Star Trek background for a while
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+because I've had this idea in my head like burning a hole in my brain for almost two years now.
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+And it's never quite felt like the right time.
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+But now it's definitely the right time.
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+We don't need you in here. You can go back.
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+So that's where we are.
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+We don't want to be taking the bait on social media.
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+We don't want to be taking the bait on TV, but I understand that it's hard not to turn it on.
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+It's hard not to pay attention.
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+But the show will go on.
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+And the Scooby-Doo mystery is still being shoved down our throats.
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+I showed you yesterday that there's a new book coming up by Rand Paul.
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+And it is called the great COVID cover up. There's even a masked bad guy on the front cover.
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+So if you think that the Scooby-Doo mystery is a joke, I hate to say it, but
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+a few people have had a more apt analogy for what has been done to us.
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+Because in order to describe what has been done to us, you need to adequately
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+codify or describe what it is that happened.
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+And you and me and all the members of drastic and everybody that wrote blog posts and medium posts and
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+subsets about the potential that this was a lab leak in 2020 were all fooled into that behavior.
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+We're all enchanted.
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+Not by what was said on TV, but what was not said.
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+What was said on social media, but was not said.
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+What was not reported, but was not reported.
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+In other words, it was a combination of what was said on TV and what didn't make sense.
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+And also what wasn't said on TV and what made sense.
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+And having enough prerequisite knowledge and enough
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+skills with regard to learning new things when it needed to be learned,
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+especially in the context of biology, there were very few people in a position to do that.
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+A few hundred thousand on every continent all around the world that were currently engaged in the study of biology for a career.
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+Reading every day, asking questions and finding the answers every day.
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+Gee, I wonder how that receptor reacts or interacts with that receptor.
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+I'm going to go and look it up.
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+I'm going to see if anyone's asked this question or question related to it.
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+And in order to be clever enough to answer those questions and to find those answers,
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+you have to understand how those questions are asked, how they're formulated,
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+how to use search engines, how to follow bibliographies,
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+and you need to hold a whole host of terminology should be second nature to you
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+so that you can read into these different fields of biology and bring together
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+a cohesive concept of what's happening.
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+And so not everybody that has their own business as a plumber is capable of doing that.
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+Not everybody who teaches for a living is capable of doing that.
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+Everybody who's a lawyer is capable of doing that in the context of biology.
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+But it should have done, Ben, everybody working in a biology degree, academic setting,
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+be it as a faculty member or a postdoc or a PhD student or a master's student
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+or a senior in undergraduate biology.
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+Anybody that had immunology 101 and had learned it, anybody that had a few years of biology
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+so that the context of viral replication, the context of DNA and RNA,
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+transcription and translation wouldn't be something that you also needed to learn.
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+And at that stage, you had all of the tools necessary to be enchanted by the idea that
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+you were covering up a lab leak and it would make sense.
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+And so with the help of Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro and the Weinstein brothers
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+and all the other people on this and elsewhere,
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+a consensus that the mystery to be solved was where did this virus come from
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+to be a solution according to Sam Harris, is it was an accidental lab leak
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+or something from Mother Nature?
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+Obvious solution for Brett Weinstein, it was, well, it was a lab leak or a gain of function virus.
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+The obvious solution to everyone, whether they watched Brock's News or CNN,
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+is that it's probably a lab leak and even if it wasn't a lab leak, they sure covered it up like it was.
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+And so the beauty of this is not who they bamboozled but how we bamboozled each other.
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+By their obvious reaction, by our obvious reaction, by those two positions being taken
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+and so vehemently defended, it's not so different than the way one defends or doesn't defend abortion,
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+the way that one defends or doesn't defend Israel,
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+the way that one does defend or doesn't defend religion or Islam or the freedom of religion
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+or the freedom of speech, the way that one does or doesn't use racism as a way of dividing people,
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+a way of identifying a way that the world works.
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+These divisions are all on the same line, they are dividing all the same people from one another
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+and it's becoming increasingly clear that that is the goal, increasingly clear over decades that that's the goal.
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+And these people have been put in place to control that narrative early on about a dangerous novel virus
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+that we had to do something like lock down masks and make a vaccine for,
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+that natural immunity might not work, that masks and bandanas and bushmeat,
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+these people are responsible for it and I'm on this page right here.
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+All of us are responsible for it, but at some moment in 2020 some people started to wake up.
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+And so we can find some of those people, we can eliminate them from this illusion of consensus,
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+we can see that they weren't part of it and not intentionally.
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+More importantly, we can see that none of the people that are currently and listen carefully to this,
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+please, none of the people that are currently out in front of the dissonant movement
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+were out in front of the dissonant movement in 2020, none of them,
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+not Robert Malone, not Steve Kirsch, not here at funded bush, no, not none.
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+Michael Eden's not in front of us anymore, but you could call he was very out early
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+and then canceled, canoe with Kowski, gone, Wolfgang Wodach, gone.
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+The people that are currently leading the dissonant movement didn't even speak up until 2021,
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+and meaningfully until the end of 2021 and that concludes Brett Weinstein and Steve Kirsch
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+and Robert Malone and here at funded bush.
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+All of these big names, none of them were speaking in Germany like Bobby was in 2020,
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+none of them were talking about natural immunity like Ryan Cole was in 2020,
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+none of them were coming out about hydroxychloroquine, not increasing the size of hearts and being ridiculous,
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+Peter McCullough was, nobody was complaining about ventilating people that didn't need to be ventilated,
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+none of these people, what Pierre Corey was,
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+and so some of these people are real dissidents that saw the animal in the early stages,
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+and when you see the animal in the early stages you get co-opted,
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+because the animal in the early stages was a natural security priority,
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+it involved special phone calls, it involved dudes with suits,
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+it involved a national security protocol that was enacted by DHS employees,
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+people from the military, people from homeland security, people from health and human services were all around the United States,
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+and so when Pierre Corey went from Wisconsin to New York, he didn't just meet other doctors in New York City,
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+he met the government, he met the military,
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+this illusion of consensus has been created on purpose for us to solve this mystery of lab leak or natural virus,
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+and in accepting the challenge, we have also accepted the premises of the challenge,
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+which is that there is indeed a novel virus,
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+and then we're always going to be trapped, our kids will always be trapped,
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+and so as we move these people around the board,
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+and people like Peter McCullough come out against the vaccine schedule,
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+and Nick Hudson makes a nice presentation that Thomas Binder keeps crushing it,
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+Denny is still doing amazing work,
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+Jessica Hockett is still doing amazing work,
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+Professor Martin Neal, and of course my friend Mark Yousatonic,
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+Mark Yousatonic has been single-handedly
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+I mean, the kinds of information that he's bringing together,
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+the kind of backstory that he's put together is not some kind of piecemeal house of cards.
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+It becomes very clear that this has been a long-standing plan.
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+It becomes very clear that some of these people have been involved in this long-standing plan for a long time,
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+Thursday, 5 o'clock Eastern, please be there.
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+And so we need to rally around these people,
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+rally around these people to help them, rally around them to get their message out,
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+and to share it.
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+This is the main message.
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+The main message is the intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is likely very dumb,
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+and the transfection is not immunization.
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+So you know the show must go on and the narrative must be kept alive,
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+and in this quest to understand why we have been listening a lot to the words of Robert Malone,
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+and in his rather recent objection, or let me say critique of the awarding of the Nobel Prize to Caracao and Weismann,
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+as I recall, on the Vay John Health interview, which we covered a few weeks ago, which I highly recommend,
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+he mentioned a name, Peter Colis, as being integral to the development of the COVID vaccines,
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+and particularly the lipid nanoparticle that is being used for them.
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+His intellectual property is held by Canada and in Germany, I think,
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+and I thought it would be really cool to find a lecture by him, and it turns out,
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+it turns out that Peter Colis actually got awarded the, I think it's the Gardener Award,
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+which is one of these awards.
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+It usually comes like a year or two before the Nobel Prize for some people,
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+not all the people that get this award get a Nobel Prize,
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+but a lot of the Nobel Prize winners have gotten, most of them have gotten this award before they get the Nobel Prize.
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+And so luckily for us, it looks like Canada in an attempt to, you know,
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+make sure that the Nobel Prize committee knew that it was these three awarded Weismann, Caracao, and Colis,
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+the Gardener Award in 2022.
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+And so in so doing, then Peter Colis has given some talks around Canada,
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+and I thought we'd listen to one of those if you don't mind.
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+Big head move, play.
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+So I think we'll get going, everyone.
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+It's a pleasure today that we're going to be welcoming Dr. Peter Colis to the University of Manitoba as our Gardener Lecture.
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+Before I start, I just want to acknowledge that the University of Manitoba campuses are located on the original lands
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+in Avis, and on the new land of the Métis Nation.
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+We respect the treaties that were made on these territories and acknowledge the harms and mistakes of the past
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+and we dedicate ourselves to move forward in partnership of Indigenous communities with a spirit of reconciliation and collaboration.
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+That was striking.
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+I'm not sure what to say about that, because as a multiracial American with more ethnicities in me that I care to count
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+and I've frankly cared to do research,
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+I don't really, I don't really know what happened in Canada, I know it must have happened in Canada, pretty similar to what happened down here in some respects and so they want to be respectful to the cultures that came before the modern Canadian culture, but it's a little striking if that's the way that they start every single
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+I find that very impressive and I'm not sure, I'm not sure it's bad or good, I don't know what it means, it's just something that strikes me as pretty impressive
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+Rewards Lecture celebrates the world's best biomedical and global health researchers. The Garener Foundation was established in 1957 with the main goal of recognizing and rewarding international excellence in fundamental research that impacts human health.
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+Today there's been 402 awards that have been bestowed on laureates from over 40 countries and of those awardees, 96 have gone on to receive Nobel prizes, in fact many of the Garener Lectures, it's been seen now as almost like a pre-noble award.
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+Today our speaker is the recipient of a Canadian Garener International Award, there are five awarded annually to outstanding biomedical scientists who have made original contributions to medicine resulting in an increased understanding of human biology and disease.
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+Dr. Peter Collis is Director of the Nanomedicine Research Group and Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at the University of British Columbia.
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+He and his co-workers have been responsible for fundamental advances in the development of nanomedicines employing lipid nanoparticles, technology, and he'll be talking about that today.
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+He's co-founded 11 biotechnology companies published more than 350 scientific articles and is an inventor of over 60 patents.
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+He's also co-founded three not-for-profit enterprises including the Center for Drug Research and Development and the Nanomedicines Innovation Network.
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+The two drugs enabled by lipid nanopore technology, delivery systems devised by Dr. Collis and members of his UBC lab and colleagues in the companies he has co-founded have recently been approved.
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+So with this I want to also just highlight Dr. Collis' numerous awards including the Order of Canada in 2021 and the Vin Future Prize and Prince Mojito Award in 2022.
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+Peter, please give a warm up.
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+Okay, thanks for that introduction, Peter.
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+Okay, and what I'm going to talk to you about today is how accidental the way science actually is as opposed to the linear way that we often see it being portrayed.
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+And so that's why I entitled it science and serendipity.
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+There's a lot of good luck that's part of this and that relates to the phenomenon of particles that enable the COVID-19 vaccines.
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+And I could also entitle it 50 years of lipids because that's pretty much what it is.
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+So I've really been involved in this field for a while and there's been a long time.
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+Now how do I get these to advance? That's the next thing.
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+I'm just going to press a space bar here and maybe that'll work. There we go.
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+So you've seen various public announcements about the analyses of the vaccine, the mRNA vaccines.
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+And in some cases you see it's coming inside what people term as being tiny bubbles of past.
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+This is a headline from Bloomberg.
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+And so this is where the mRNA is coded in lipids.
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+And so what I'm going to talk about is really these tiny bubbles of past.
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+I'm not going to say that they're not really tiny bubbles of that, but anyway.
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+So what are they?
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+They're already tiny.
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+We're talking about systems that are 100 nanometers or less in diameter.
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+So 100 times smaller than a cell.
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+But they're not really bubbles of past.
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+They're nanoparticles made of membrane lipids.
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+They've really taken my whole career 50 years to develop.
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+So it goes way back to 1972 when I was involved in, I mean for 30 years I've been doing basic studies on membrane lipids.
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+Starting about 1985 we started to apply some of that knowledge to development of lipidase systems.
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+This dude is old because if he's been working on stuff since 1972, I was born in 1972.
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+That's some impressive shit.
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+Wow.
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+And he didn't get the Nobel.
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+These things aren't going to me.
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+To development of systems that deliver cancer drugs, which is what we started to do.
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+We started off trying to cure cancer and quite managed that with a few other things.
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+And then starting in 1995, applying the knowledge, our basic knowledge, to deliver nucleic acid based drugs.
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+Now, just going back to the beginning, this is, I got my PhD in solid state physics in using magnetic resonance in 1972.
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+And I was looking at semiconductors at 40 degrees Kelvin, like transistors on the moon.
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+Anyway, I decided after doing this that I really had to do something different.
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+Most of the interesting problems that I could see were outside the field of physics, particularly in the life sciences.
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+And so I got interested in applying NMR in the life sciences.
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+And I got a fellowship to go to the biochemistry department in Oxford in 1973.
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+And I knew absolutely nothing about biochemistry.
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+So this was quite an introduction by fire.
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+Now, I knew a bit about NMR.
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+I published my last physics paper in 1976, consisted of about 96 equations.
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+But anyway, that's pointing out that when you learn something as a physicist, you learn it in some depth.
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+And there's other things that you learn as a physicist.
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+You get the feeling that this guy is already like a Tyrannosaurus Rex compared to the salamander that Weisman was.
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+I mean, I already know that I would not want to sit at a table with this guy and open my mouth.
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+I would want to sit at this table and listen.
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+And it is completely the opposite feeling that you have when listening to Drew Weisman.
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+And I'm not trying to be a creep.
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+This guy clearly, I mean, wow, I don't even know what to say.
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+For a mentalist, when you need an instrument that isn't available, you build it.
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+And of course, going after basic problems is another aspect.
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+But what I got started in 1973, they had a mag, big mag.
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+I guarantee you, there's no pictures like that of Drew Weisman.
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+And so, some of them were powerful ones in the world at the time, actually.
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+They had no electronics to go with it.
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+So, we had to build me and a graduate student.
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+So, we built all the electronics to go with the sent-
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+Holy shit.
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+So, that's why I spent my first year there.
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+That's impressive.
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+Otherwise, it would have been a bit tricky.
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+But it was a bit tricky as it was.
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+And then I used the Edamar machine to-
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+See, it's not to be underestimated.
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+And I'll put myself in the same shoes or the same boxes, everybody else.
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+It's not to be underestimated how amazing it is that in the 70s and the 80s,
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+if you were doing science, you made everything yourself.
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+It's really very similar to this.
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+Let me show you another example of what I think is so extraordinary about
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+where we are in human time and how ridiculous it is.
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+When I was a child, there was a place that we would drive past on the highway.
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+We were about 30 minutes away from where the mall was and where all the stores were
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+because we lived in a super-tidy town in northern Wisconsin.
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+And so on this drive, we would go past this place where a lot of times
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+there were dudes playing with model airplanes.
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+And so you would drive past and then you would suddenly catch this super-tiny airplane
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+flying really fast and like, you know, doing loops or whatever.
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+And you immediately realized that it was a model airplane.
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+And we also occasionally would see a helicopter there.
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+But the helicopter didn't do anything.
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+The helicopter just flew.
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+But that was pretty unbelievable.
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+Now in those days, those guys were making almost everything that they did.
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+You know, even the servos, and they certainly had to be able to repair them.
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+They certainly had to customize them.
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+And so you couldn't go on Amazon and buy a kit for a helicopter.
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+And if you did buy a kit for a helicopter, it might be $2,000.
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+Now you can go on Amazon and you can get a helicopter that should cost $2,000 for about $200.
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+And the crazy thing is, is that the amount of skill that I need to build this is zero
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+because it comes built.
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+So you get it out, you put the battery in, you put it on the ground.
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+You can fly it.
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+And there's no building.
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+There's no tweaking.
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+I don't have to adjust the pitch and the way that the swash plate interacts with.
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+There's no, and I know how to do all that because I've been playing with helicopters for quite so many years.
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+But what I'm suggesting to you is, is that there is a whole generation of biologists that's growing up
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+going into the lab, going into graduate school, and rather than being required to build the helicopter
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+that they're going to use for their experiments, they order one.
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+And so they're not even really sure if the person who designed what they ordered knows what they're doing,
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+or whether it meets the specs, or whether it meets the fidelity measurements of the specificity that's required.
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+Science almost has to be done on the product now.
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+Let's evaluate this helicopter for its attributes before we can realize if we can use it for the experiment.
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+And so so much of science is spent looking for the product that you're going to use to do your measuring.
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+Looking for the apparatus and then making up an experiment rather than coming up with the experiment and building an apparatus like they still do some places.
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+The most cutting edge neuroscientists are making their own apparatus still.
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+But what I need you to understand is molecular biology used to be like that.
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+And it's clear that this guy cut his teeth during a time when science was real.
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+And has worked with people who know how to do real science.
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+From the ground up, from the dirt up.
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+We need to measure X. Well we don't have one of those in the catalog, so I'm going to make one that can measure X.
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+That's what he did.
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+There are almost, I would go out to say, there are almost no scientists to do this anymore.
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+And the worst is that there are almost no geneticists that do this anymore.
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+No molecular biologists that do this anymore.
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+The market is literally flooded with products that do it for you.
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+With pre-made reagents.
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+And it's not to say that accuracy can't be achieved with products, but it is to say that the mastery.
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+That the understanding.
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+That the in-depth grasp.
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+The question that you're asking and the limitations of it.
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+Are kind of lost if you can order the helicopter online.
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+And it comes already set up.
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+So that you don't have to program the electronic speed controller.
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+You don't have to bind it to the radio.
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+You don't have to program the radio.
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+You don't have to program the swash angle.
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+And so what the hell do you really know about how a helicopter works if you can order it online
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+and put it on the ground plug in the battery and fly it away?
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+And what do you really know about the genome if you can buy a mini prep kit,
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+amplify your DNA, sequence it, and then you get a piece of paperback.
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+Never having known what went into that aluminum product that you combined with your Abbott product.
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+And you combined with your bio-rad product and then put it back in your aluminum product.
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+Okay, I'm getting a little crazy here, but anyway.
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+Well, it was a bit tricky as it was.
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+And then I used the Edamar machine to study eulipins in biological memory.
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+So really basic stuff.
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+But it's going after basic problems. And so this is a model of biological memory,
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+which is a synchronical model, which is still quite relevant today,
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+showing the various components proteins and lipids that were all good.
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+No, I'm going to toot my own horn for a little bit, though.
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+Because I have a little invention that I invented for my work.
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+Which is a very, maybe I can use this camera.
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+It's a very hand sensitive air adjustment.
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+You can't even roll it now. This is probably a little rusty, but you put an air hose on this end.
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+And if you put an air hose on this end.
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+When you're making electronic electrical recordings from neurons under a microscope,
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+you need to be able to control the air pressure inside of the electrode.
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+Because you use the subtle change in pressure to actually make contact with the cell.
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+And in the old days, these patch climbers would use a hose in their mouth.
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+And they would blow in it a little bit or they'd suck in it a little bit.
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+And so when people were making these recordings for eight or nine hours a day when they were really obsessed,
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+they would be the whole day with this tube in their mouth.
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+And later on, people started using syringes and I didn't like it.
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+So I made this thing, I asked this machine, machinist student at the, the Erasmus University.
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+I hope George Webel here this.
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+And this summer student machined me this thing that you can roll with your hand and it moves the piston down.
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+And you can push this button and it makes it neutral.
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+And so just like taking it out of your mouth or blowing or sucking, you can essentially roll this knob,
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+you can blow and you can suck and you can also go neutral.
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+And you can do it with your hand and it's really, really small amount with your, with this roll.
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+You know, really small amount.
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+And it made my, it made all of the quality of my recordings just go out the roof.
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+And so I made lots of different varieties and versions of it and gave some to people.
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+And for a while, it was a really cool thing and it was something I was really proud of.
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+Because it really made me more efficient and it was really something that, you know,
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+after all this time of all these people contributing all this stuff to this one methodology,
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+it was cool after 15 years of doing it to finally make something that was really mine that actually made it better.
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+You know, and, and nobody cares about this stuff.
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+But I'm just saying that like, that's really where, where good, honest science is done.
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+It's done at that level where, where you've got to invent something in order to measure.
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+You've got to invent something in order to perform the experiment.
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+You've got to, you've got to solve a problem via invention in order to get to your goal is a very rare thing.
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+In academic science anymore and even more rare, it's rare in biology.
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+Because biological science has been inundated, completely inundated by products.
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+And even in neuroscience where you would think if you're designing a behavioral experiment for a monkey,
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+you're going to have to build your own custom setup, but you'd be wrong.
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+If you just take what Kevin McCarran does, for example, what he used to do when he was a neuroscientist
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+and actively working with monkeys, although he may have built his own apparatuses,
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+my guess is, is that if he were to start his own lab now,
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+there would be some product out there that would be better than anything he could build.
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+And if he had the grant money, he would choose to buy that because it's much faster and better and whatever.
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+My point is, is that these products are everywhere all over the place.
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+They're at every conference. Science isn't this going into the shop,
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+going into the, you know, wood shop, invention shop, metal shop,
+
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+using a lathe that's not like that anymore.
+
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+And in molecular biology, I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I really want you to hear it.
+
+40:44.000 --> 40:52.000
+In molecular biology, it's like bakery where you don't have any recipes anymore.
+
+40:52.000 --> 40:59.000
+It would be really like if all the bakeries were just boxed cakes
+
+40:59.000 --> 41:03.000
+and you never went to the store and bought flour and sugar anymore,
+
+41:03.000 --> 41:09.000
+you just bought boxed cakes from all these different companies.
+
+41:09.000 --> 41:12.000
+And they came in all different sizes. You want to make a wedding cake?
+
+41:12.000 --> 41:15.000
+Well, you can order a wedding cake from thermal scientific,
+
+41:15.000 --> 41:18.000
+or you can order a wedding cake from Sigma.
+
+41:18.000 --> 41:22.000
+But if you want cupcakes, I think, I think that, you know,
+
+41:22.000 --> 41:26.000
+molyneau labs makes the best cupcakes you should order their product.
+
+41:26.000 --> 41:30.000
+And it would come in a little box and all the, all the ingredients would be separate
+
+41:30.000 --> 41:33.000
+and then there would be instructions on how to mix them.
+
+41:33.000 --> 41:41.000
+And it might just say put two one and tube two and add four liters of distilled water,
+
+41:41.000 --> 41:50.000
+stir for 30 minutes and then put it on at a temperature for an hour and there it is.
+
+41:50.000 --> 41:54.000
+And because you were completely not involved in any part of the baking,
+
+41:54.000 --> 41:56.000
+you don't understand anything.
+
+41:56.000 --> 41:59.000
+You don't even know what was in tube one and tube two.
+
+41:59.000 --> 42:04.000
+You just know that tube one and tube two couldn't be combined in transport.
+
+42:04.000 --> 42:08.000
+In fact, hostess might not even tell you what's in tube one and tube
+
+42:08.000 --> 42:11.000
+because it's proprietary information.
+
+42:11.000 --> 42:14.000
+The buffers are secret.
+
+42:14.000 --> 42:17.000
+Do you see my point?
+
+42:17.000 --> 42:20.000
+These people don't know what they're doing when they sequence a reaction.
+
+42:20.000 --> 42:23.000
+When they sequence a virus, they don't know what they're doing
+
+42:23.000 --> 42:26.000
+when they do a PCR reaction. They're using a product,
+
+42:26.000 --> 42:32.000
+reading the directions and interpreting the product's outcome based on the directions.
+
+42:32.000 --> 42:36.000
+That's it.
+
+42:36.000 --> 42:40.000
+And a lot of molecular biologists are so disconnected from the molecular biology
+
+42:40.000 --> 42:46.000
+that they purport to do that they can't even explain what parts of the products they use
+
+42:46.000 --> 42:53.000
+are responsible for what parts of the reaction they purport to be exhibiting.
+
+42:53.000 --> 42:57.000
+So I'm trying to say, with a ridiculously long rant,
+
+42:57.000 --> 43:01.000
+that this guy seems to be a PIMP.
+
+43:01.000 --> 43:04.000
+A real deal.
+
+43:04.000 --> 43:06.000
+A real deal.
+
+43:06.000 --> 43:08.000
+And I really like that.
+
+43:08.000 --> 43:13.000
+But you can see it because you could hear it from the very beginning.
+
+43:13.000 --> 43:17.000
+This guy had to build electronics in order to do stuff.
+
+43:17.000 --> 43:20.000
+He's the real deal.
+
+43:21.000 --> 43:24.000
+Now, all biological membranes rely on a bilayer.
+
+43:24.000 --> 43:27.000
+A little bit bilayer as a structural element.
+
+43:27.000 --> 43:30.000
+So this is taking out the proteins. This is what you're going to see.
+
+43:30.000 --> 43:32.000
+And the membrane lipid, of course, are amphicathic.
+
+43:32.000 --> 43:35.000
+I mean, they have a polar head. They're self-assembling, which is a wonderful quality.
+
+43:35.000 --> 43:37.000
+They have one end who likes to be in their water and the other end
+
+43:37.000 --> 43:40.000
+who likes to be sequestered away from water.
+
+43:40.000 --> 43:45.000
+So the basic questions I got interested in were two falls.
+
+43:45.000 --> 43:48.000
+One of them was, well, positive memories contain a lot of lipids
+
+43:48.000 --> 43:51.000
+that if you pull them out and then put them in water, they don't adopt bylars.
+
+43:51.000 --> 43:53.000
+So what are they doing there? And what's their roles?
+
+43:53.000 --> 43:56.000
+So what are these non-biler lipids there? It's called lipid polymorphism.
+
+43:56.000 --> 43:58.000
+Along way from vaccines, what we actually used, the knowledge that we gained
+
+43:58.000 --> 44:03.000
+studying with the polymorphism to develop more effective delivery systems for mRNA.
+
+44:03.000 --> 44:06.000
+And the other question that we looked at was lipid asymmetry.
+
+44:06.000 --> 44:10.000
+So the lipid composition on one side of a biological membrane is different than the lipid composition on the other side.
+
+44:10.000 --> 44:13.000
+And so we asked the question, well, can this be related to our ingredients?
+
+44:13.000 --> 44:16.000
+You know, they're present across membranes, whether they're sodium potassium
+
+44:16.000 --> 44:18.000
+or proton or pH gradients.
+
+44:18.000 --> 44:23.000
+And so this is, I spent a lot of time and still do spend time actually on investigating those properties.
+
+44:23.000 --> 44:24.000
+And what we discovered.
+
+44:24.000 --> 44:29.000
+One of the things I would hope, if you would pay attention to, if anybody has
+
+44:29.000 --> 44:39.000
+listened to Christine Grace, this person that we covered one time on a V John Health lecture,
+
+44:39.000 --> 44:45.000
+she seems to be quite the expert on nanoparticles and lipid nanoparticles.
+
+44:45.000 --> 44:50.000
+It would be interesting if you're listening and you notice anything that she said
+
+44:50.000 --> 44:55.000
+that's the same as what he said, or if you've noticed any contradictions
+
+44:55.000 --> 44:57.000
+between what he's saying and she's saying.
+
+44:57.000 --> 45:03.000
+What I guess is going to happen is, is you're going to hear almost no overlap in terms whatsoever.
+
+45:03.000 --> 45:05.000
+No overlap in concepts whatsoever.
+
+45:05.000 --> 45:08.000
+But maybe I'm wrong. I'm optimistic.
+
+45:08.000 --> 45:11.000
+It was that we could use NMR, phosphorus NMR.
+
+45:11.000 --> 45:13.000
+I mean, phosphorus have a phosphorus in them.
+
+45:13.000 --> 45:17.000
+So we could use a phosphorus NMR to study these different structures that lipids a dot.
+
+45:17.000 --> 45:21.000
+The misad water in these civil form bilayers are these other structures.
+
+45:21.000 --> 45:25.000
+They form a bilayer, then their main emotional characteristic is rotation around the long axis.
+
+45:25.000 --> 45:28.000
+And so this gives rise due to the phosphorus and the phosphate.
+
+45:28.000 --> 45:31.000
+So this kind of characteristic line shape with a low field shoulder and high field peak.
+
+45:31.000 --> 45:34.000
+So it's quite diagnostic of a lipid bilayer.
+
+45:34.000 --> 45:38.000
+On the other hand, if they adopt these strange structures such as exactly the H2 phase,
+
+45:38.000 --> 45:41.000
+it consists of long tubes of water surrounded by lipids on the outside.
+
+45:41.000 --> 45:44.000
+These are about, say, ten animes or so on, or less in diameter.
+
+45:44.000 --> 45:47.000
+Then they can, additional emotional averaging, they can rotate, they can go around these
+
+45:47.000 --> 45:48.000
+so it gets very rapidly.
+
+45:48.000 --> 45:51.000
+It ends up giving you a different line shape with a low field peak and high field shoulder.
+
+45:51.000 --> 45:55.000
+So really quite, and if they have total emotional averaging, then you see a very narrow line shape.
+
+45:55.000 --> 46:02.000
+And so this allowed us to study the properties of many lipids in terms of their face preferences.
+
+46:02.000 --> 46:06.000
+Are you understanding that he's using NMR to look at the structure of lipids
+
+46:06.000 --> 46:12.000
+that he uses the NMR signal to identify the organization of the lipid.
+
+46:12.000 --> 46:20.000
+And so this NMR signal spectrum across frequencies is different than this one,
+
+46:20.000 --> 46:24.000
+the reflection or the light or the energy that comes off of it.
+
+46:24.000 --> 46:26.000
+As long as you understand that much, it's okay.
+
+46:26.000 --> 46:30.000
+I don't know if I can even explain the particulars of NMR.
+
+46:31.000 --> 46:36.000
+It's magnetic resonance, which basically means how do the molecules resonate
+
+46:36.000 --> 46:38.000
+and the resonance across frequencies.
+
+46:38.000 --> 46:40.000
+So I think they do a frequency sweep.
+
+46:40.000 --> 46:46.000
+And when you see a frequency sweep and then the amount of resonance that you get,
+
+46:46.000 --> 46:49.000
+and it's different in the different structures here.
+
+46:49.000 --> 46:54.000
+So they can start to probe how lipids arrange themselves using NMR.
+
+46:54.000 --> 46:57.000
+And the NMR machine is what he had to build by scratch.
+
+46:57.000 --> 47:00.000
+And if they had total emotional averaging, then we can see a very narrow line shape.
+
+47:00.000 --> 47:06.000
+And so this allowed us to study the properties of many lipids in terms of their face preferences
+
+47:06.000 --> 47:08.000
+and have a good shift between one or the other.
+
+47:08.000 --> 47:09.000
+This has been the crowd.
+
+47:09.000 --> 47:12.000
+I worked on a lot of this with him in the late 70s, early 80s.
+
+47:12.000 --> 47:15.000
+And just pointing out that we could rationalize this by, and this will come in back in,
+
+47:15.000 --> 47:17.000
+when we talk about the vaccines.
+
+47:17.000 --> 47:21.000
+The lipids and the biler structure have more of a cylindrical shape.
+
+47:21.000 --> 47:24.000
+The Herion head group region can be more or less the same as in the isyl chain region.
+
+47:25.000 --> 47:28.000
+Whereas if it's like the structure of this, such as these hexagonal phases,
+
+47:28.000 --> 47:32.000
+have a cone structure where the area for a molecule in the head group is somewhat less
+
+47:32.000 --> 47:34.000
+than the area is attended by the isyl chains.
+
+47:34.000 --> 47:36.000
+So very simplistic thinking that them went on and saying,
+
+47:36.000 --> 47:38.000
+okay, well, what are the function roles?
+
+47:38.000 --> 47:39.000
+Can you hear that though?
+
+47:39.000 --> 47:41.000
+Again, maybe I'm playing it too fast.
+
+47:41.000 --> 47:42.000
+I can hear it, but maybe you don't.
+
+47:42.000 --> 47:48.000
+So the way that they organize seems to be the way that the head, the phosphate head,
+
+47:48.000 --> 47:51.000
+is related to the chain on the bottom.
+
+47:51.000 --> 48:00.000
+If the molecular shape is the phosphate head on the top is bigger than the tail,
+
+48:00.000 --> 48:02.000
+then you will get a micellar.
+
+48:02.000 --> 48:09.000
+My cell micellars are these things that we talked about with Robert Malone a few weeks ago.
+
+48:09.000 --> 48:17.000
+If the lipids on the bottom are related to the phosphate head are about the same size
+
+48:17.000 --> 48:19.000
+and they're cylindrical, then you get this bilayer.
+
+48:19.000 --> 48:25.000
+And if they're conical, meaning that the tails coming off the bottom,
+
+48:25.000 --> 48:28.000
+I think those are fatty acids, but I'm not sure.
+
+48:28.000 --> 48:31.000
+It's like a phospholipid head and then fatty acids on the bottom.
+
+48:31.000 --> 48:35.000
+But the fatty acids are spreading out like that in a cone shape,
+
+48:35.000 --> 48:38.000
+then they will make that hexagonal arrangement.
+
+48:38.000 --> 48:42.000
+And so they're trying to study how lipids assemble.
+
+48:42.000 --> 48:46.000
+Obviously, this will then allow them to make different assemblies of lipids
+
+48:46.000 --> 48:48.000
+and understand why they assemble the way that they do.
+
+48:48.000 --> 48:49.000
+It's really cool.
+
+48:49.000 --> 48:52.000
+You would not be opposed to it being slower.
+
+48:52.000 --> 48:54.000
+I'll put it one notch slower then.
+
+48:58.000 --> 48:59.000
+By the acyl chains.
+
+48:59.000 --> 49:02.000
+So very simplistic thinking that them went on saying,
+
+49:02.000 --> 49:05.000
+okay, well, what are the function roles of these lipids?
+
+49:05.000 --> 49:10.000
+Now, in order to investigate these roles, it's very difficult to do anything in the intact membrane.
+
+49:10.000 --> 49:13.000
+There are hundreds of different lipids species there,
+
+49:13.000 --> 49:17.000
+and trying to pick out the properties of one lipid versus others is pretty much impossible.
+
+49:17.000 --> 49:22.000
+And so you have to use very simple model membrane or less termed liposomal systems.
+
+49:22.000 --> 49:26.000
+Now, at the time, there was not really a good way of making these systems.
+
+49:26.000 --> 49:29.000
+You wanted to make these systems with one bilayer of an inside and an outside, et cetera.
+
+49:29.000 --> 49:34.000
+So we devised a high pressure extrusion technique
+
+49:34.000 --> 49:37.000
+where we basically took larger lipid bilayer systems
+
+49:37.000 --> 49:41.000
+and rammed them through a polycarbonate filter with a 100 nanometer pore size.
+
+49:41.000 --> 49:45.000
+And so out of the other end, you get these unital amount of systems just like this.
+
+49:45.000 --> 49:50.000
+So this is where building an apparatus should be formed a company on this that serves this very well.
+
+49:50.000 --> 49:57.000
+But anyway, we can use these liposomes to show that membrane fusion depends on,
+
+49:57.000 --> 50:00.000
+you know, if we have non-biodar lipids and we add them,
+
+50:00.000 --> 50:04.000
+we put a certain small proportion in with these bilayer forming vesicles.
+
+50:04.000 --> 50:08.000
+Then we'll see, we've been in dander fusion between them, and we'll see.
+
+50:08.000 --> 50:13.000
+So definitely, this is much other evidence indicates that the membrane fusion
+
+50:13.000 --> 50:18.000
+is really dependent on these lipids, of course, membrane fusion and vital to life in many ways.
+
+50:18.000 --> 50:20.000
+Now, we also use these.
+
+50:20.000 --> 50:22.000
+The subtitles are not getting that.
+
+50:22.000 --> 50:24.000
+It keeps saying membrane fusion.
+
+50:24.000 --> 50:27.000
+It's like saying remembering fusion just in case you're reading.
+
+50:27.000 --> 50:31.000
+We use liposomes to demonstrate the consequences of lipidase symmetry.
+
+50:31.000 --> 50:35.000
+And I'm going into this a bit because it points out the importance of doing quite basic research
+
+50:35.000 --> 50:38.000
+on how you can use the inside of your game, from basic research,
+
+50:38.000 --> 50:44.000
+to inform your and give you tools that you can use for more therapeutic or...
+
+50:44.000 --> 50:48.000
+I think he said he formed a company that made those little lipids.
+
+50:48.000 --> 50:53.000
+So it's forcing them through the carbon filter to make them a little tiny.
+
+50:53.000 --> 50:55.000
+That was a company all by itself.
+
+50:55.000 --> 50:56.000
+Patients.
+
+50:56.000 --> 50:59.000
+So we synthesize this ionizable cation lipid called dodap.
+
+50:59.000 --> 51:03.000
+And the thinking here was that this lipid has a property as a tertiary amine
+
+51:03.000 --> 51:06.000
+that can exist in a protonated state, which is positively charged,
+
+51:06.000 --> 51:10.000
+and that's at low pH, whereas it's a neutral pH that becomes repropenated
+
+51:10.000 --> 51:12.000
+on the other net neutral molecule.
+
+51:12.000 --> 51:16.000
+And the net neutral molecule can diffuse across the membrane really quickly.
+
+51:16.000 --> 51:18.000
+But it becomes to the inside and gets protonated.
+
+51:18.000 --> 51:21.000
+It becomes positively charged, but it can't get back out again.
+
+51:21.000 --> 51:26.000
+Because charge molecules don't get through lipid bylars very easily.
+
+51:26.000 --> 51:30.000
+And so we can drive lipidase symmetry in response to this pH gradient,
+
+51:30.000 --> 51:33.000
+and we can look at various consequences of having more lipid on one side of the membrane
+
+51:33.000 --> 51:34.000
+compared to the other.
+
+51:34.000 --> 51:36.000
+And the sheet change is in order to more flow.
+
+51:36.000 --> 51:38.000
+There's some huge changes that result from it.
+
+51:38.000 --> 51:40.000
+I mean, think about how elegant that is.
+
+51:40.000 --> 51:44.000
+Think about how basic of biology this is.
+
+51:44.000 --> 51:46.000
+That he's got a system with nothing.
+
+51:46.000 --> 51:49.000
+He's just looking at cell membrane.
+
+51:49.000 --> 51:54.000
+He's looking how charge can cause molecules to flip from one side of the membrane to the other,
+
+51:54.000 --> 51:56.000
+and that charge can keep them there.
+
+51:56.000 --> 51:59.000
+And then looking at this charge asymmetry, I think it's really interesting.
+
+51:59.000 --> 52:03.000
+And I think it's really amazing that people
+
+52:04.000 --> 52:08.000
+were able to come up with these stepwise investigations to break down
+
+52:08.000 --> 52:11.000
+and understand how these complex chemical systems work.
+
+52:11.000 --> 52:13.000
+It's extraordinary, isn't it?
+
+52:13.000 --> 52:15.000
+Again, real biology here.
+
+52:15.000 --> 52:16.000
+No.
+
+52:16.000 --> 52:18.000
+But we got distracted.
+
+52:18.000 --> 52:25.000
+As we also found, we could load cancer drugs into these liposomes,
+
+52:25.000 --> 52:26.000
+into the pH gradients.
+
+52:26.000 --> 52:31.000
+And so these are the weak-based drugs that can exist in a protonated form or a neutral form.
+
+52:31.000 --> 52:33.000
+Well, that neutral form can go across the bilayer.
+
+52:33.000 --> 52:36.000
+If you have a low pH on the inside, it gets protonated in traps.
+
+52:36.000 --> 52:39.000
+And so this shows where Dr. Ribison, which is a common anti-cancer drug,
+
+52:39.000 --> 52:42.000
+that we could get so much drug in there that we'd pass the solubility product
+
+52:42.000 --> 52:45.000
+and they would get these nanocrystals forming inside our...
+
+52:45.000 --> 52:48.000
+This is 100 nanometer bar here inside these vesicles.
+
+52:48.000 --> 52:51.000
+So we immediately thought, well, wow, this is going to be a good way
+
+52:51.000 --> 52:54.000
+of delivering cancer drugs more specifically to where you want them.
+
+52:54.000 --> 52:55.000
+This is an enormous problem.
+
+52:55.000 --> 52:59.000
+Of course, I mean, cancer drugs go everywhere in your body cause really nasty.
+
+53:00.000 --> 53:01.000
+Wait, did I miss something?
+
+53:01.000 --> 53:02.000
+I'll actually get to where you want to go.
+
+53:02.000 --> 53:05.000
+I'm distracted very easily.
+
+53:05.000 --> 53:06.000
+And so we could drive...
+
+53:06.000 --> 53:09.000
+Now, I see a little bit of critique here.
+
+53:09.000 --> 53:11.000
+And I just want to be sure that everybody understands.
+
+53:11.000 --> 53:14.000
+When I say that this is real biology,
+
+53:14.000 --> 53:18.000
+yeah, you might want to say that this is more like biophysics.
+
+53:18.000 --> 53:24.000
+But it's investigation of the basic properties of lipid bilayers,
+
+53:24.000 --> 53:28.000
+which are fundamental to most living systems on Earth.
+
+53:29.000 --> 53:31.000
+So in that sense, it's a very fundamental biology.
+
+53:31.000 --> 53:37.000
+Yes, it's still a theory or a hypothesis about how these lipid bilayers work.
+
+53:37.000 --> 53:43.000
+But I'm impressed with the fact that at least we're investigating that with the idea.
+
+53:43.000 --> 53:45.000
+But I don't know where we just...
+
+53:45.000 --> 53:48.000
+We just really crossed into delivering cancer drugs all of a sudden.
+
+53:48.000 --> 53:50.000
+So I missed some transition there.
+
+53:50.000 --> 53:51.000
+That's why I wanted to go back.
+
+53:51.000 --> 53:53.000
+Drive-lividase symmetry in response to this pH gradient.
+
+53:53.000 --> 53:57.000
+And we can look at various consequences of having more lipid on one side of the membrane
+
+53:57.000 --> 53:58.000
+compared to the other.
+
+53:58.000 --> 54:00.000
+And the shape changes in order to more...
+
+54:00.000 --> 54:02.000
+There's some huge changes that result from that.
+
+54:02.000 --> 54:05.000
+But we got distracted.
+
+54:05.000 --> 54:11.000
+So we also found that we could load cancer drugs into these liposomes,
+
+54:11.000 --> 54:12.000
+into the pH gradients.
+
+54:12.000 --> 54:16.000
+And so these are the weak-based drugs that consist of a protonated form
+
+54:16.000 --> 54:17.000
+or a net-neutral form.
+
+54:17.000 --> 54:19.000
+Well, that neutral form can go across the bilayer.
+
+54:19.000 --> 54:22.000
+If you have a low pH on the inside, it gets protonated in traps.
+
+54:22.000 --> 54:25.000
+And so this is shows for Doxaribacin, which is a polynomial cancer drug,
+
+54:25.000 --> 54:29.000
+that we could get so much drug in there that we'd pass the solubility products
+
+54:29.000 --> 54:31.000
+and they would get these nanocrystals forming inside our...
+
+54:31.000 --> 54:34.000
+This is 100 nanometer bar here inside these vesicles.
+
+54:34.000 --> 54:37.000
+So we immediately thought, well, wow, this is going to be a good way
+
+54:37.000 --> 54:40.000
+delivering cancer drugs more specifically to where you want them.
+
+54:40.000 --> 54:41.000
+This is an enormous problem.
+
+54:41.000 --> 54:44.000
+Of course, cancer drugs go everywhere in your body cause really nasty.
+
+54:44.000 --> 54:48.000
+Only 0.01% will actually get to where you want it or less.
+
+54:48.000 --> 54:50.000
+And so if you could deliver these more specifically,
+
+54:50.000 --> 54:52.000
+it'd be a huge benefit.
+
+54:52.000 --> 54:57.000
+So we started a company in 1992 called, this is me and four postdocs in the lab,
+
+54:57.000 --> 55:03.000
+called Inik's Pharmaceuticals to use these systems to improve the delivery
+
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+of cancer drugs to tumors.
+
+55:04.000 --> 55:07.000
+I have to say, this is a great way of keeping a team together.
+
+55:07.000 --> 55:11.000
+We're still working together one way or another, some 40 years later.
+
+55:11.000 --> 55:12.000
+And we've had some success.
+
+55:12.000 --> 55:16.000
+Tom Haddon is now CEO of Acuitus, which supplied the banana particle
+
+55:16.000 --> 55:19.000
+for the Pfizer biotech COVID-19 vaccine as an example.
+
+55:19.000 --> 55:22.000
+But it's been quite a ride over the years.
+
+55:22.000 --> 55:29.000
+We started this for cancer drugs, but we started working on gene therapies.
+
+55:29.000 --> 55:34.000
+We hired a CEO, Jim Miller, and Monday about the middle 90s,
+
+55:34.000 --> 55:38.000
+he came to me and said, well, I can't raise money for the company
+
+55:38.000 --> 55:40.000
+putting these old drugs in liposomes.
+
+55:40.000 --> 55:42.000
+I mean, if you're doing gene therapy, it has much more sex appeal.
+
+55:42.000 --> 55:44.000
+That's exactly what he said.
+
+55:44.000 --> 55:46.000
+In other words, sex appeal for investors.
+
+55:46.000 --> 55:52.000
+And so this risk really started us off on a whole new path of reading.
+
+55:52.000 --> 55:56.000
+I got to say, I completely and totally agree when they say you got distracted.
+
+55:56.000 --> 55:59.000
+It means we got a shit ton of money.
+
+55:59.000 --> 56:03.000
+And we went for the money.
+
+56:03.000 --> 56:05.000
+Wow.
+
+56:05.000 --> 56:06.000
+Wow.
+
+56:06.000 --> 56:08.000
+This is a great little talk here.
+
+56:08.000 --> 56:12.000
+And gene therapy, you know, is a much more sex appeal.
+
+56:12.000 --> 56:13.000
+Great.
+
+56:13.000 --> 56:14.000
+Great.
+
+56:14.000 --> 56:20.000
+Instead of delivering cancer drugs, I'm trying to deliver nucleic acid-based drugs.
+
+56:20.000 --> 56:22.000
+So let's get back a little bit.
+
+56:22.000 --> 56:24.000
+So what does gene therapy, what did the Miller mean?
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+56:24.000 --> 56:27.000
+If you go to Wikipedia, you can find a very general definition.
+
+56:27.000 --> 56:29.000
+It's not, there's other definitions.
+
+56:29.000 --> 56:33.000
+But one version of gene therapy is the therapeutic delivery of nucleic acids
+
+56:33.000 --> 56:36.000
+into a patient cells as a drug to treat disease.
+
+56:36.000 --> 56:39.000
+But delivery is really the operative word.
+
+56:40.000 --> 56:43.000
+These approaches really require delivery systems.
+
+56:43.000 --> 56:45.000
+Excuse me.
+
+56:45.000 --> 56:47.000
+I'm modified nucleic acid-pombers.
+
+56:47.000 --> 56:52.000
+They're really degraded very rapidly in the, I've got to sort of got some more here.
+
+56:52.000 --> 56:56.000
+They're rapidly degraded in biological fluids.
+
+56:56.000 --> 57:00.000
+But they don't go to where you want them to go if you inject them.
+
+57:00.000 --> 57:03.000
+And if they get there, they can't do anything because they can't get across cell membranes.
+
+57:03.000 --> 57:07.000
+So, you know, delivery systems are kind of important.
+
+57:07.000 --> 57:13.000
+Now what we focused on was the delivery of RNA-based molecules to either inhibit gene expression
+
+57:13.000 --> 57:15.000
+or promote gene expression.
+
+57:15.000 --> 57:21.000
+So as you're all aware, DNA goes to mRNA, goes to protein.
+
+57:21.000 --> 57:28.000
+So the sRNA interferes with translation by degrading mRNA for a very specific protein
+
+57:28.000 --> 57:30.000
+according to the sequence in the sRNA.
+
+57:30.000 --> 57:34.000
+A messenger RNA, of course, if you get that inside a cell, then it'll be taken up into the ribosomes
+
+57:34.000 --> 57:36.000
+to produce any proteins we want.
+
+57:36.000 --> 57:38.000
+And I think this is really important.
+
+57:38.000 --> 57:49.000
+This is something that I mentioned yesterday as part of my little rant about what the RNA can and can't do.
+
+57:49.000 --> 57:53.000
+I understand that there's DNA in the shots and that's real bad.
+
+57:53.000 --> 57:57.000
+But there was RNA in the shots and RNA can be really bad too.
+
+57:57.000 --> 58:05.000
+And one aspect of RNA and the insertion of foreign RNA into our system,
+
+58:05.000 --> 58:10.000
+that hasn't been discussed at all, is this short interfering RNA potential.
+
+58:10.000 --> 58:16.000
+The short interfering RNA potential is there from a nefarious perspective.
+
+58:16.000 --> 58:19.000
+It's there from an erroneous perspective.
+
+58:19.000 --> 58:23.000
+It's there from a quality control perspective.
+
+58:23.000 --> 58:30.000
+And it's something that we haven't really at all talked about, even with the greatest molecular binds on the
+
+58:30.000 --> 58:35.000
+incidence side, none of them have ever mentioned this as a potential danger.
+
+58:35.000 --> 58:44.000
+But especially, and I say this with great trepidation, but especially with injecting mRNAs into pregnant women,
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+58:44.000 --> 58:50.000
+those mRNAs, if they are the smear on the gel that they showed to the FDA,
+
+58:50.000 --> 58:58.000
+then there are lots of small RNAs that have this potential that may have overlap with human transcripts.
+
+58:58.000 --> 59:08.000
+If you put this in a pregnant woman and then use accidentally interfere with RNA expression in the developing embryo,
+
+59:08.000 --> 59:12.000
+that's not going to be really good.
+
+59:12.000 --> 59:17.000
+And the potential for that interference is very, very high if the RNA is in pure.
+
+59:17.000 --> 59:23.000
+If the RNA has a lot of overlap, if they haven't been adequately,
+
+59:23.000 --> 59:32.000
+and you know that they haven't, if they haven't adequately investigated the potential for interference to occur.
+
+59:32.000 --> 59:40.000
+Interference happens when this shorter RNA sequence binds to an existing transcript
+
+59:40.000 --> 59:49.000
+and that double strand of RNA then gets degraded, because the body doesn't tolerate double-stranded RNA.
+
+59:49.000 --> 59:58.000
+We know that this is a thing because we've used it in academia to stop or lower the expression of a protein temporarily
+
+59:58.000 --> 01:00:01.000
+in order to study its effects.
+
+01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:12.000
+We have already used it as a way of trying to treat diseases when it comes to the inhibition of a production of a pathogenic protein, for example.
+
+01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:23.000
+And so as he talks about the delivery of RNA, he's talking about the whole spectrum of products that could be used in academia
+
+01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:33.000
+because there's billions of dollars from the welcome trust in the NIH and all these other non-governmental organizations for academic bench research.
+
+01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:39.000
+And academic bench research uses transfection and transformation all the time.
+
+01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:47.000
+So you don't even really have to think about curing disease or changing the world of childhood diseases.
+
+01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:56.000
+You can just think about delivering RNA in the context of academic biology and look to make millions.
+
+01:00:57.000 --> 01:01:14.000
+And again, here we're talking about the throwing of money at academic biology has created a whole gigantic multinational industry of chemical production
+
+01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:28.000
+and chemical apparatus, biological apparatus, molecular biological tools, kits, methodologies, machines.
+
+01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:41.000
+And all of these industries have moved scientists, biologists, chemists, behavioral neuroscientists, everybody farther away from understanding the biology that they think they're studying
+
+01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:51.000
+because they don't understand how their measuring tool works because their measuring tool is just a product
+
+01:01:51.000 --> 01:02:03.000
+that they follow the directions for like a cake that comes out of a box with tube A and tube B and sac A and B.
+
+01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:14.000
+And you combine tube A with sac A in a bowl and then you add B and B and you stir it up and put it in a oven and then you have your cake, you don't know what you did.
+
+01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:18.000
+And you wouldn't know anything about how to tweak it.
+
+01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:23.000
+You wouldn't know how to make a variation or an adjustment to it.
+
+01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:38.000
+And so as we talk about this, understand how long this guy started in 1972 and got distracted in the early 80s to deliver RNA.
+
+01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:41.000
+It ain't a new thing.
+
+01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:50.000
+So as a remarkable statement that comes out of this, if you can do this, you can potentially treat most diseases, most human diseases, which is really a remarkable statement.
+
+01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:56.000
+If you think about it, all diseases rely on their cause by proteins either being overexpressed or not being available.
+
+01:02:56.000 --> 01:03:02.000
+So both SRNA and mRNA require delivery systems to reach the interior of target cells.
+
+01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:12.000
+So we spent the last 27 years, I guess, developing these lipid nanoparticles to deliver SRNA and mRNA into cells in vivo.
+
+01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:19.000
+So I was going to go through three aspects of that which is the design for encapsulation of these nucleic acid polymers, which is still going on today
+
+01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:21.000
+and we're still improving these systems.
+
+01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:27.000
+The patocerian or on-patriole story, which is to treat a particular disorder known as trans- thyristin-induced amylidosis.
+
+01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:31.000
+And then I'll briefly mention the vaccine application.
+
+01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:39.000
+So our aim in 95 was to develop a delivery system to try and silence a gene in the liver.
+
+01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:44.000
+We started off with any sense of the nucleotides and then switched to SRNA in the early 2000s.
+
+01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.000
+But this is actually one heck of a problem.
+
+01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:49.000
+When you think about it, we're challenged.
+
+01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:53.000
+Packaging it up, first of all, on lipid nanoparticle, and it has a circulator round after an IV injection.
+
+01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:58.000
+Let's say if we're targeting a gene in the liver, then it has to extrapolate in the liver.
+
+01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:03.000
+So I got a message here which says,
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+01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:11.000
+Intradidum was a biotechnology company that develops gene therapy technology based on RNA interference.
+
+01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:20.000
+Intradidum merged with silence technologies in 2009, and the merged company is now publicly traded.
+
+01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:29.000
+Silence technologies is involved in developmental research of targeted RNAi therapeutics for the treatment of serious diseases.
+
+01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:33.000
+RNAi being RNA interference.
+
+01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:42.000
+And this is just a different way of abbreviating short interfering RNA as the same as RNAi, RNA interference.
+
+01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:51.000
+Dr. Robert Malone co-founded and helped secure the 2.3 million in venture capital funding, including monies from the Norvargis Vester Fund,
+
+01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:56.000
+ETP Venture Capital Fund, and the state of Maryland.
+
+01:04:56.000 --> 01:05:04.000
+He also performed facility setup, infrastructure setup, and intellectual property development business and technology development planning,
+
+01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:08.000
+including in-depth business and scientific plan.
+
+01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:12.000
+So we know that Robert Malone knows what SIRNA is.
+
+01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:22.000
+We know that he knows that RNAi can interfere with the regulation of endogenous RNA.
+
+01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:35.000
+And so he has to know then that the injection of active lipid nanoparticles filled with less than optimal quality controlled RNAs into a pregnant woman would be absurd.
+
+01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:45.000
+He has to know that, otherwise he couldn't have helped a company like silent technologies back in 2009.
+
+01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:52.000
+I'll give you a big guess as to who just sent me that message, but he's in the chat now and he's a beast.
+
+01:05:53.000 --> 01:06:00.000
+SIRNA has to get taken up by hepatocytes, has to then get out of the endosome and into the cytoplasm.
+
+01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:03.000
+And so really building up that capability.
+
+01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:05.000
+Am I too quiet?
+
+01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:07.000
+I feel like I'm talking a lot.
+
+01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:11.000
+And also, of course, you've got the immune system fighting you every inch of the way.
+
+01:06:11.000 --> 01:06:16.000
+This certainly doesn't want foreign genetic material getting into cells in your body.
+
+01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:24.000
+So the first problem that we hit, and this is where the serendipity, some of the serendipity aspects comes in,
+
+01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:32.000
+was that in order to encapsulate negatively charged polymers such as nucleic acid and RNA DNA.
+
+01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:41.000
+I don't know if you can see it already, but for me, what I see there is the start of an Ebola virus.
+
+01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:43.000
+That's what I see.
+
+01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:45.000
+You can see the start of an Ebola virus.
+
+01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:51.000
+It is a double-stranded molecule with a lipid nanocode around it, and so it's going to become a long snake.
+
+01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:55.000
+Into a lipid nanoparticle, we had to use the positively charged lipids.
+
+01:06:55.000 --> 01:07:00.000
+You can see that the associate with the negative charge, and we can see the potential then for getting a hydrophobic entity
+
+01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:04.000
+that we could then encapsulate as the lipid nanoparticle.
+
+01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:08.000
+Now, there's a huge problem here, and that is that there's no permanently-positive charge,
+
+01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:10.000
+and that is in nature.
+
+01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:12.000
+There are really toxic molecules.
+
+01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:15.000
+There's only net-neutral lipids or negatively-charged lipids.
+
+01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:18.000
+And so we thought, wow, well, how do we get past this one?
+
+01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:23.000
+Because the toxicity if you're developing a drug, now that's always what's going to get you in the end.
+
+01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:28.000
+And so what we did was we tried the lipid that we developed for the lipid asymmetry studies,
+
+01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:33.000
+where we knew that at pH 4, say, when we're below the pKa of this tertiary amine,
+
+01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:36.000
+it's going to become proteinated, so it's positively charged,
+
+01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:41.000
+whereas that neutral pH is not going to be charged, and so, therefore, presumably, it's going to be much less toxic.
+
+01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:44.000
+And so we asked the question then, well, can we load these polymers?
+
+01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:53.000
+Can we load antisense, or SRNA, at pH 4, where the dodap or other ionous lipids is positively charged?
+
+01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:57.000
+And is it retained when we raise the pH, 2 pH 7.4?
+
+01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:02.000
+And the answer is obviously yes, otherwise we wouldn't be giving this talk.
+
+01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:10.000
+So what we developed, a rapid mixing procedure for formulating these systems,
+
+01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:13.000
+and, again, one of the lights they're working with lipids as I mentioned is their self-assembling.
+
+01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:18.000
+And so we dissolved the lipids in ethanol, and then, through a rapid mixing process,
+
+01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:23.000
+let's say, the SRNA, or antisense, or whatever else we want to get in there.
+
+01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:24.000
+And these are all...
+
+01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:26.000
+One of the first things to fall out of the solution is the...
+
+01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:27.000
+This is most...
+
+01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:31.000
+You take acid polymer, it's surrounded by the positively charged lipid.
+
+01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:33.000
+This is most certainly patentable.
+
+01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:35.000
+Oh, I didn't know I had that on.
+
+01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:37.000
+This is most certainly patentable.
+
+01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:40.000
+The whole process is patentable.
+
+01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:43.000
+All of these things, because lipids are self-assembling,
+
+01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:45.000
+all these processes are patentable.
+
+01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:46.000
+That's why I have so many patents.
+
+01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:48.000
+That's clear now to me.
+
+01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:52.000
+Now, if you do this fast enough, then other things will fall out of solution, such as this peg lipid here.
+
+01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:56.000
+And you can trap these systems in what we turn on limit-sized vesicles, in other words,
+
+01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:00.000
+the smallest size that's compatible with the molecular components.
+
+01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:03.000
+And that when we took the pH back up to pH 7.4,
+
+01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.000
+the contents were retained in these systems.
+
+01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:09.000
+And so this really got us past the toxicity issue.
+
+01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:12.000
+And also, you can see intuitively how it is that we could get, you know,
+
+01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:15.000
+encapsulation efficiencies that might approach 100%.
+
+01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:18.000
+So it turns out to be a pretty useful technique.
+
+01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:24.000
+But it's basically dependent on that basic research where we were playing around with the ionizable cationic lipid,
+
+01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.000
+and then we had a tool that we could use in the...
+
+01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:29.000
+You know, for making these nanoparticle systems,
+
+01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:30.000
+these are relatively non-toxic.
+
+01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:31.000
+They have a hydrophobic core.
+
+01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.000
+This is a cryo-TM picture.
+
+01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:40.000
+Certainly, any negatively charged macromolecule, we can encapsulate it 100% shopping efficiency scalable.
+
+01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:44.000
+We can change the size to all the size just by changing the surface lipid to core lipid ratio.
+
+01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:49.000
+All kinds of advantages to this process.
+
+01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:54.000
+So we know we had things that were formulated in lipid nanoparticles.
+
+01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:57.000
+You know, could they actually do anything?
+
+01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:00.000
+At least we had something that was basically not too toxic,
+
+01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:04.000
+and that was a prime criterion before we even went near animals.
+
+01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:08.000
+So after a conference that I attended in London,
+
+01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:11.000
+this was 2004, I was pursued by...
+
+01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:13.000
+Well, this term is a mad Russian, because it kind of is.
+
+01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:18.000
+The guy named Victor Katellianski, who at that point was the vice president research.
+
+01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:21.000
+He had a company in Boston called online on pharmaceuticals.
+
+01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:27.000
+Now, an island was founded in 2002 to develop the small interfering RNA as a therapeutic,
+
+01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:32.000
+and when it's silenced to particular genes in the liver,
+
+01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:35.000
+to inhibit production of proteins or causing problems.
+
+01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:39.000
+And he had a statement, was we have a delivery problem?
+
+01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:43.000
+How did we get our S RNA into the liver, into hepatocytes in vivo?
+
+01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:50.000
+And so this stimulated a seven-year collaboration that went on from 2005 to 2012.
+
+01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:56.000
+We had teams in Vancouver and in Boston, and we synthesized many different lipid nanoparticle formulations.
+
+01:10:56.000 --> 01:11:01.000
+But it resulted in a formulation that we could silence a gene in the liver
+
+01:11:01.000 --> 01:11:03.000
+with a therapeutic index approaching 1,000.
+
+01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:06.000
+In other words, give 1,000 times higher dose than that,
+
+01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:10.000
+which we received some biological effect before we saw toxic side effects.
+
+01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:12.000
+So we started off with a question.
+
+01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:18.000
+Can these lipid nanoparticle systems, silence genes in the liver following an IV injection?
+
+01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:22.000
+So there's really no targeting information on the outside here.
+
+01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:24.000
+I could go into other forms of serendipity.
+
+01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:29.000
+They actually turned out they do target quite well for reasons maybe we can discuss the question period.
+
+01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:34.000
+But so they have a very simple, I mean, it's complicated in many drug terms,
+
+01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:41.000
+but we've encapsulated, say, 1,000 of these oligonucleotides in 100 nanometer or 89 nanoparticle,
+
+01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:43.000
+and we were injecting them IV.
+
+01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:51.000
+So what's going to be the process whereby they actually have some biological effect?
+
+01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:54.000
+Now, lipid nanoparticles get into cells by a process.
+
+01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:58.000
+You're all familiar with the endocytosis of cell-eating process.
+
+01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:03.000
+And so this means that we don't want things to go on to the lysosomes.
+
+01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:05.000
+We're saying, you know, nucleic acids would get degraded.
+
+01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:12.000
+We have to break out of the end zone at some point so that the oligonucleotide is really delivered
+
+01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.000
+into the cytoplasm.
+
+01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:18.000
+And so they just hand-wave that.
+
+01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:21.000
+It's a little bit like the infectious cycle, right?
+
+01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:23.000
+That's it.
+
+01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:25.000
+That's what you're just going to say.
+
+01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:29.000
+It just opens up and they leak out and that's all good or what?
+
+01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:31.000
+This is really wrong.
+
+01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:36.000
+And we shouldn't let him get away with this, but they're letting him get away with it.
+
+01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:41.000
+I think that this is a lot of hand-waving here, and I don't think that they know exactly what happens.
+
+01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:45.000
+They just assume a lot like the infectious cycle of viruses.
+
+01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:50.000
+The oligonucleotide is really delivered into the cytoplasm.
+
+01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:54.000
+And so how can these ionizable lipids destabilize an end zone?
+
+01:12:54.000 --> 01:13:00.000
+What we found was that if we took positively charged lipids and added them to negatively charged lipids,
+
+01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:03.000
+just those lipids you find in endosomes and other biological membranes,
+
+01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:06.000
+it will flip the lipid from a bio-organization.
+
+01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:09.000
+This is the phosphorous NMR signal that I showed at the beginning.
+
+01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:12.000
+They'll flip it straight over into these non-biodar structures.
+
+01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:17.000
+Let me describe this to an electrostatic interaction changing the shape as it were of this molecule
+
+01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:19.000
+and flipping it from a bio-organization.
+
+01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:22.000
+But anyway, certainly very membrane destabilizing.
+
+01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:24.000
+And so this took us back to the polymorphism.
+
+01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:30.000
+They really basically, again, basic studies, but it gave us a way forward for designing better and better ionizable
+
+01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:32.000
+and counting on lipids.
+
+01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:37.000
+And so we needed to design them so they interact with the components of the endosome
+
+01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:41.000
+at some vulnerable part of the endosome maturation process.
+
+01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:46.000
+And so this is our model for saying, okay, what we're trying to do here is to destabilize it
+
+01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:49.000
+by introducing these non-biodar structures.
+
+01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:56.000
+Now we assessed the invivial potency of the systems using factor seven mouse model.
+
+01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:01.000
+This is going to point out some of the amazing advantages of gene therapy approaches.
+
+01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:05.000
+If we can get it to work for factor seven, which is the clotting protein as you're all aware,
+
+01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:09.000
+then if we can silence that gene, we can silence any other gene in the hepatocytes.
+
+01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:11.000
+And so we're used to this as a model.
+
+01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:17.000
+We had factor seven, that's SRNA to silence factor seven.
+
+01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:21.000
+Packaged that in a lipid nanoparticle, introduce that into the intravenously,
+
+01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:24.000
+and then assay for factor seven in the blood 24 hours later.
+
+01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:27.000
+So we know that factor seven is made in the hepatocytes,
+
+01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:30.000
+and so if we are inhibiting the production of factor seven,
+
+01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:32.000
+then we're going to see less factor seven in the blood subsequently.
+
+01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:35.000
+So I could do two experiments a week, it wasn't high throughput,
+
+01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:38.000
+but we could certainly run through quite a number of formulations.
+
+01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:42.000
+I should say for nanomedicines in general, screening in vitro doesn't really tell you much,
+
+01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:45.000
+you really have to get to the invivial circumstance.
+
+01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:50.000
+So we found that the potency of these systems was really sensitive to the species
+
+01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:54.000
+of the cationic lipid, the ionizable cationic lipid that we employed.
+
+01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:59.000
+And so this is just going through a sequence of, you know, we started off with DODAP and KDM-A,
+
+01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:02.000
+KC2, MC3, et cetera. They're all pretty similar.
+
+01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:07.000
+I mean, linoleic acid chains, we've got tertiary amine.
+
+01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:11.000
+So why, but, you know, there's a huge difference in terms of their potency.
+
+01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:17.000
+And we found that the potency was really very, very sensitive to the PKA,
+
+01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:21.000
+a point at which these ionizable lipids became positively charged.
+
+01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:24.000
+So this is a graph of the potency, now potency is one over the effect of those
+
+01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:28.000
+where we could basically knock down factor seven by 50%.
+
+01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:31.000
+And it's a function of the PKA. This is a log plot here.
+
+01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:35.000
+So you can see, I mean, a PKA was as little as half a unit away from some optimum.
+
+01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:38.000
+We could decrease the activity by two orders of magnitude.
+
+01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:44.000
+So that's really quite a, quite a pronounced dependence on the PKA of the ionizable lipids.
+
+01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:48.000
+And so as a result of this, we were able to take effective dose from 10 migs per gig
+
+01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:52.000
+where we would see some deans silencing down to five micrograms without increasing the toxicity.
+
+01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:54.000
+If anything, we decreased the toxicity.
+
+01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:57.000
+So this is where this therapeutic index of a thousand came from.
+
+01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:01.000
+Anyway, so at this point, the clinicians, or at least we said,
+
+01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:03.000
+we think this is ready to go into the clinic.
+
+01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:06.000
+And so the clinicians at Onalam said, okay.
+
+01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:09.000
+I'm kind of annoyed because he keeps using this therapeutic index,
+
+01:16:09.000 --> 01:16:14.000
+which he says is a thousand,
+
+01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:19.000
+and the dose that they're using is a thousand times higher than what they need
+
+01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:23.000
+to create an effect, and they still don't see toxicity,
+
+01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:26.000
+or the toxicity occurs only when they increase from
+
+01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:29.000
+an effective dose a thousand times.
+
+01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:32.000
+What is the toxicity that he measures?
+
+01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:36.000
+What is this, that, it's sort of hand waving here,
+
+01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:40.000
+but again, I get that he's given this general talk, so he can't explain everything,
+
+01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:44.000
+but it's a little, yeah, anyway.
+
+01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:46.000
+We think this is ready to go into the clinic.
+
+01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:52.000
+And so the clinicians at Onalam said, okay, what disease should we go after,
+
+01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.000
+and the disease that was chosen,
+
+01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:56.000
+and that was the disease that I'd never heard of before,
+
+01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:00.000
+called trans-theritin-induced amylodosis, a hereditary disorder.
+
+01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:03.000
+As I mentioned at the beginning, by science and factor 7,
+
+01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:05.000
+we knew we could start as any gene in the parasite,
+
+01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:08.000
+so all we had to do was put in a different SRNA
+
+01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:10.000
+that was going to silence our particular target.
+
+01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:14.000
+So this was work that then went on at Onalam.
+
+01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:17.000
+HATTR is actually a pretty nasty disorder.
+
+01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:22.000
+So the trans-theritin, it's a protein that's made primarily in the liver.
+
+01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:25.000
+If there's a mutation, and there are ways of number of mutations,
+
+01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:27.000
+it's a big protein, can cause a formation of fibrils,
+
+01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:30.000
+which presumably deposit everywhere in your body,
+
+01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:34.000
+but they have really nasty effects in nervous tissue and in cardiac tissue,
+
+01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:36.000
+so it's no effective therapy.
+
+01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:39.000
+They usually fail a little bit in five years of diagnosis.
+
+01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:41.000
+It's kind of a nasty disease, which is indicated here.
+
+01:17:41.000 --> 01:17:45.000
+It's a wasting disorder that goes through the stages.
+
+01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:47.000
+It's indicated here.
+
+01:17:47.000 --> 01:17:50.000
+Kind of particularly nasty because it's hereditary,
+
+01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:53.000
+and so if you find you're stumbling in your thirties,
+
+01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:55.000
+you sort of know what's in store for you,
+
+01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:58.000
+because you're likely to see in a relative go through the similar process.
+
+01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:02.000
+So this is where the simplicity of gene therapy approaches comes in.
+
+01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:05.000
+So, okay, well, this is caused by the protein trans-theritin.
+
+01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:07.000
+Well, this has stopped it being produced.
+
+01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:11.000
+And so this is taking a, I've been at a particle now,
+
+01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:14.000
+containing SRNA to silence trans-theritin,
+
+01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:16.000
+and the idea is, if we shut that down,
+
+01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:18.000
+then we're going to reduce the circulating tetramers,
+
+01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:20.000
+the deposition of the fibrils,
+
+01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:22.000
+and perhaps we might even get some clearance
+
+01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:24.000
+if there's very little in the blood.
+
+01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:28.000
+So potentially a simple solution to what is really a devastating disease.
+
+01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:32.000
+This is the results of the phase three study,
+
+01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:35.000
+which came out in 2017.
+
+01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:40.000
+So there was 148 patients who got to the drug
+
+01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:45.000
+in the dose of .3 mics per gig, IV every three weeks,
+
+01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:47.000
+or they got sterile saline as a placebo.
+
+01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:49.000
+And the neural impairment score was a primary endpoint,
+
+01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:51.000
+quality of life, weakness, et cetera,
+
+01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:54.000
+over secondary endpoints, ability to walk, and so on.
+
+01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:56.000
+Now, so these were some of the top line results
+
+01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:58.000
+for the save for the neural impairment score.
+
+01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:00.000
+So over the course of the 18 months,
+
+01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:03.000
+the patients that were on the sterile saline
+
+01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:06.000
+or the control were getting steadily worse.
+
+01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:09.000
+Their neural impairment score was getting higher,
+
+01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:12.000
+whereas those patients that were being treated with this.
+
+01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:15.000
+Okay, so we're treating a hereditary disease that I'll go back
+
+01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:18.000
+so you can see what it was called.
+
+01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:21.000
+Hatter amyloidosis
+
+01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:24.000
+that is going to kill people in a pretty awful way,
+
+01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:26.000
+and it's hereditary.
+
+01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:29.000
+Usually fatal within five years of being diagnosed.
+
+01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:32.000
+It looks like it hits you when you're an adult.
+
+01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:39.000
+But giving mRNA in a lipid nanoparticle
+
+01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:42.000
+to a person who's going to go through this in five years
+
+01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:46.000
+is very different than giving it to your four-year-old.
+
+01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:50.000
+It's so different, it shouldn't even be discussed.
+
+01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:53.000
+But vaccines are given to kids.
+
+01:19:53.000 --> 01:19:55.000
+Vaccines are given to healthy adults.
+
+01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:58.000
+This is not a healthy adult.
+
+01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:03.000
+This is a guy who has a five-year death ahead of him
+
+01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:06.000
+after diagnosis, and so it's fine to give him mRNA
+
+01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:09.000
+in a lipid nanoparticle. Why not?
+
+01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:12.000
+And it doesn't even work that well as you see.
+
+01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:15.000
+It does stop it, but I mean, it's not curing him.
+
+01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:17.000
+Since they were being treated with a drug
+
+01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:19.000
+to silence a transliteration in the liver,
+
+01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:21.000
+if anything, we're getting better.
+
+01:20:21.000 --> 01:20:24.000
+So, really, you're improving the status of these people
+
+01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:27.000
+suffering from a hereditary disease.
+
+01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:30.000
+So, it's quite a remarkable thing.
+
+01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:33.000
+So, the Phase III trial results were announced in 2017.
+
+01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:36.000
+As I said, I also refer to the p-value for the
+
+01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:38.000
+neural impairment story.
+
+01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:40.000
+This is 10th of the minus 24,
+
+01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:42.000
+one over Avogadro's number.
+
+01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:44.000
+They're absolutely sure that this drug works,
+
+01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:47.000
+but it's equally convincing for self-reported quality of life,
+
+01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:51.000
+muscle strength, ability to walk, nutritional status, etc., etc.
+
+01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:53.000
+So, it's certainly one of the most,
+
+01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:55.000
+why that's the most impressive clinical trial result
+
+01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:56.000
+I've ever seen.
+
+01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:59.000
+It really points out how these genetic drugs, you know, are...
+
+01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:03.000
+So, if you talk, you start with a dude who's really dying.
+
+01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:05.000
+You can use mRNA to briefly fix him.
+
+01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:08.000
+I don't think this returns them to normal.
+
+01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:11.000
+I don't think it means that he's going to live for 50 more years.
+
+01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:16.000
+And I bet if he's really honest about it,
+
+01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:18.000
+the guy probably still died two years later,
+
+01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:20.000
+but at least he didn't feel bad while he died.
+
+01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:22.000
+At least he didn't deteriorate anymore.
+
+01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:27.000
+Because my guess is that therapy won't work forever.
+
+01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:29.000
+That's the tricky part.
+
+01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:32.000
+That's the part he doesn't have to tell you right now.
+
+01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:34.000
+They really work.
+
+01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:37.000
+Because we're going right after the root cause of things.
+
+01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:41.000
+So, this was approved by the FDA, the trade name is on Petro,
+
+01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:44.000
+and by the FDA in 2018, for treatments,
+
+01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:47.000
+the first FDA approval of an SRNA-based drug,
+
+01:21:47.000 --> 01:21:50.000
+and a clinical validation, obviously,
+
+01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:53.000
+for the, depending on a particle delivery approach,
+
+01:21:53.000 --> 01:21:58.000
+really dramatically demonstrates the power of the gene therapy approaches.
+
+01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:04.000
+Okay, I'm just going to go on now to the vaccine story,
+
+01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:08.000
+which really took place between 2012 and 2020
+
+01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:10.000
+for the COVID-19 vaccine.
+
+01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:18.000
+Now, this is, when the, when on Patrick went into the clinic in 2012,
+
+01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:21.000
+there was nothing you can do as a scientist that has that point.
+
+01:22:21.000 --> 01:22:23.000
+I mean, it's all the clinical trial.
+
+01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:25.000
+You can't change things in the middle of a clinical trial.
+
+01:22:25.000 --> 01:22:29.000
+And so, we said, well, okay, if we can deliver SRNA
+
+01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:31.000
+and get that to silence the gene in the liver,
+
+01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:32.000
+it's a pretty big molecule.
+
+01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:33.000
+It's not as big as an mRNA,
+
+01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:35.000
+but maybe if we package mRNA in the same way,
+
+01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:37.000
+we'll get some gene expression.
+
+01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:39.000
+And so, that's what we did.
+
+01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:43.000
+And the, what we found was that we could use the,
+
+01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:47.000
+depending on a particle approach to use the liver as a biorat
+
+01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:49.000
+to produce any protein we want.
+
+01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:50.000
+So, think about that.
+
+01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:52.000
+If you want to win the Tour de France, this is the...
+
+01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:55.000
+So, is that where we're making spike protein in our liver?
+
+01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:57.000
+Probably some of it.
+
+01:22:57.000 --> 01:22:59.000
+Injecting mRNA, including for erythropolietin,
+
+01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:01.000
+and you get, this is a big model.
+
+01:23:01.000 --> 01:23:05.000
+Now, you get super physiological levels of EPO
+
+01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:08.000
+and the corresponding increase in the metacritic cetera in these,
+
+01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:09.000
+in these animals.
+
+01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:12.000
+So, this points out to the, there's, so this, this got,
+
+01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:15.000
+this, this was our whole focus was, why?
+
+01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:17.000
+There's, there's just an enormous number of diseases,
+
+01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:21.000
+rare diseases, et cetera, that one can go after using this,
+
+01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:23.000
+using this, this approach.
+
+01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:26.000
+But we, again, had another serendipitous event
+
+01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:31.000
+because we were approached in 2014 by Drew Weissman
+
+01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:34.000
+of the University of Pennsylvania.
+
+01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:38.000
+He'd been working with Katie Currico and Drew and,
+
+01:23:38.000 --> 01:23:41.000
+Drew Weissman and Katie Currico are co-winners with me of the
+
+01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:43.000
+Geradner Award.
+
+01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:45.000
+So, they've been working for many years to try and get,
+
+01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:48.000
+reduce the toxicity of messenger RNA, the immunotoxicity,
+
+01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:52.000
+and that, so they come up with, you know, they show them by
+
+01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:54.000
+modifying mRNA, they could, that problem.
+
+01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:57.000
+So, in a way, right, this is exactly what I was talking about
+
+01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:59.000
+earlier with too many words.
+
+01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:03.000
+Currico and Weissman couldn't have done anything that they did
+
+01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:09.000
+without the products and patents and proprietary
+
+01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:14.000
+preparation methodologies for the lipid nanoparticles that this
+
+01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:16.000
+guy came up with.
+
+01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:20.000
+And they just decided not to give them the Nobel, him the Nobel
+
+01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:23.000
+Prize for that, instead gave them the Nobel Prize for the
+
+01:24:23.000 --> 01:24:27.000
+adjustment to the mRNA that they made.
+
+01:24:27.000 --> 01:24:31.000
+Seems pretty random, also seems pretty useless because they
+
+01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:33.000
+don't even know what they're doing because they don't understand
+
+01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:36.000
+the chemistry of the lipid nanoparticles this guy does.
+
+01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:38.000
+They just bought him.
+
+01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:44.000
+They just added him to the team, right?
+
+01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:52.000
+His 30 years of biochemistry and NMR research on how lipids
+
+01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:56.000
+stick together.
+
+01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:59.000
+But still, they had a delivery problem.
+
+01:24:59.000 --> 01:25:02.000
+How do we get mRNA coding for viral proteins into muscle
+
+01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:05.000
+and immune cells in vivo?
+
+01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:10.000
+And so, they needed a lipid nanoparticle, obviously, enough
+
+01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:16.000
+to get the mRNA coding for vaccine into the cytoplasm of both,
+
+01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:19.000
+say, muscle cells and antigen presenting cells to get a
+
+01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:24.000
+vigorous MHC1 or MHC2 class immune response.
+
+01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:27.000
+So, the first thing that we looked at was, or the drew looked
+
+01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:29.000
+at, was Zika virus.
+
+01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:34.000
+So, the lipid nanoparticle in this case contained messenger
+
+01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:38.000
+RNA coding for a surface protein on the supreme membrane
+
+01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:41.000
+and envelope biker protein on Zika virus.
+
+01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:47.000
+And so, this was in the mouse model, and just showing that this
+
+01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:51.000
+is interdermally injected with nanoparticles containing mRNA.
+
+01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:56.000
+I didn't see the question, but amyloidosis is the process
+
+01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:58.000
+that leads to amyloid plaques.
+
+01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:03.000
+Amyloid plaques is just a consequence of amyloidosis.
+
+01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:06.000
+So, here we are at Zika.
+
+01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:08.000
+Here we are at Zika.
+
+01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:14.000
+And I don't know what to say other than here we are at Zika.
+
+01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:15.000
+It's all the same.
+
+01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:17.000
+It's all the same stunts.
+
+01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:18.000
+It's all the same theaters.
+
+01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:20.000
+It's all the same targets.
+
+01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:22.000
+It's all the same nonsense.
+
+01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:25.000
+Are they going to talk about antibodies to the envelope
+
+01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:30.000
+glycoprotein and antibodies to the premembrane?
+
+01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:32.000
+I would be willing to bet they are.
+
+01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:36.000
+For the Zika virus, the premembrane and envelope biker protein,
+
+01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:40.000
+a bit of the mouthful, and then challenging it two weeks
+
+01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:43.000
+or 20 weeks with Zika virus itself.
+
+01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:45.000
+Did they show?
+
+01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:49.000
+Oh my gosh, they showed microencephaly.
+
+01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:55.000
+We had Randall Bach on our show, and he's also been on Mark's
+
+01:26:55.000 --> 01:27:01.000
+useatonic live.
+
+01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:07.000
+And in his book, he describes in detail how it's pretty sure
+
+01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:12.000
+that microencephaly is actually not really associated with Zika virus.
+
+01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:14.000
+That was kind of baloney.
+
+01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:16.000
+So, that's really interesting.
+
+01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:20.000
+We are in A-quoting for the Zika virus, the premembrane and envelope
+
+01:27:20.000 --> 01:27:23.000
+lycoprotein, a bit of the mouthful.
+
+01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:28.000
+And then challenging it two weeks or 20 weeks with the Zika virus itself.
+
+01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:33.000
+And the quite remarkable results, and as much as was published in Nature
+
+01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:37.000
+in 2017, complete protection both at two weeks and 20 weeks
+
+01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:40.000
+against the Zika virus challenge.
+
+01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:44.000
+So, this is looking at the viral copy numbers per milliliter.
+
+01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:45.000
+Nature paper.
+
+01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:46.000
+Nature paper.
+
+01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:47.000
+Wow.
+
+01:27:47.000 --> 01:27:50.000
+This is not a direction we were going in at all.
+
+01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:53.000
+It was only, we were trying to say, express proteins in the liver,
+
+01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:56.000
+and you got a phone call, and then things change.
+
+01:27:56.000 --> 01:28:02.000
+Now, in this cause, cutus, it causes to start working with the biointech
+
+01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:04.000
+to develop an influenza vaccine.
+
+01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:08.000
+Obviously, that's from a commercial point of view of huge interest.
+
+01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:11.000
+Now, it turned out that biointech had also been working Pfizer on this.
+
+01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:14.000
+From a commercial point of view is of a huge interest.
+
+01:28:14.000 --> 01:28:18.000
+Not from a public health perspective, because we don't need flu vaccines.
+
+01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:19.000
+This is so stupid.
+
+01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:20.000
+The vaccine.
+
+01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:25.000
+And so, in January, February of 2020, all those efforts were switched,
+
+01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:33.000
+using the liver nanoparticle that we've been supplying to developing a COVID-19 vaccine.
+
+01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:39.000
+And you all know the results of this, that in November of 2020,
+
+01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:44.000
+the vaccine was demonstrated to be 95% effective against COVID-19,
+
+01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:46.000
+independent of age or gender, race, et cetera,
+
+01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:49.000
+and was reasonably well tolerated across all populations.
+
+01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:51.000
+This is 43,000 participants.
+
+01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:53.000
+So, this is certainly one of the larger clinical trials you're ever going to see
+
+01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:56.000
+from a vaccine, remarkably convincing results.
+
+01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:00.000
+They expected to produce 1.3 billion doses by the end of 2021.
+
+01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.000
+They were much closer to 3 billion, I think,
+
+01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:05.000
+and obviously, has been approved in many jurisdictions.
+
+01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:08.000
+And so, that's really what the, as to say,
+
+01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:12.000
+we spent 27 years developing these systems.
+
+01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:13.000
+It's been a pretty amazing journey.
+
+01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:18.000
+I hope I pointed out how that journey has really depended on some very basic research
+
+01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:20.000
+and also some good luck, the serendipity.
+
+01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:22.000
+It's really quite remarkable.
+
+01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:24.000
+But the point is, it's just beginning.
+
+01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:29.000
+I often refer to mRNA systems as really being, you know,
+
+01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:32.000
+the third generation of pharmaceuticals where the first generation,
+
+01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:39.000
+small molecule drugs, second generation, biologics, monoclonal antibodies, et cetera.
+
+01:29:39.000 --> 01:29:43.000
+And then third generation, these gene therapies for protein replacement,
+
+01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:45.000
+you know, you don't have a protein being made, okay, well, let's make it.
+
+01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:47.000
+Those vaccines, this is obvious.
+
+01:29:47.000 --> 01:29:52.000
+Gene editing is another approach that we can use to alter gene expression.
+
+01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:57.000
+So, quite remarkable how these are the broad applicability.
+
+01:29:57.000 --> 01:30:00.000
+And the other thing that's kind of mind-boggling is we're used to, you know,
+
+01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:03.000
+developing a drug that might take 15 years and a billion dollars.
+
+01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:08.000
+Once we've identified the protein that we want to express or silence
+
+01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:11.000
+or edit or whatever, we can reduce the S RNA or the mRNA
+
+01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:13.000
+and it's time on the order of say a month or so.
+
+01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:15.000
+And we can package it in a day or so.
+
+01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:19.000
+And so you have this really highly targeted personalized medicine available
+
+01:30:19.000 --> 01:30:21.000
+and it's time on the order of weeks.
+
+01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:24.000
+So this changes the paradigm of medicine as far as I'm concerned.
+
+01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:27.000
+It just makes a huge, it's a huge leap.
+
+01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:31.000
+He's making the same argument that they've been making for a long time
+
+01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:34.000
+because all you have to do is change the RNA
+
+01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:38.000
+that you don't need to do any therapeutic trials on it anymore
+
+01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:41.000
+because it's just like a cassette.
+
+01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:44.000
+It doesn't matter what cassette you put in the cassette player.
+
+01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:46.000
+It's not going to hurt the cassette player.
+
+01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:52.000
+Put Van Halen in there or if you put Miles Davis in there, it doesn't matter.
+
+01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:58.000
+And that is the dumbest thing that you could ever possibly hear out of these people's heads.
+
+01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:02.000
+But this is, maybe this guy's more of a chemist.
+
+01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:07.000
+He believes that the clinical trials are the most remarkable thing ever.
+
+01:31:09.000 --> 01:31:15.000
+And now we're going to kill Alzheimer's disease and Huntington's and cystic fibrosis,
+
+01:31:15.000 --> 01:31:18.000
+cancer, heart disease, Alzheimer's.
+
+01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:20.000
+It's all going away.
+
+01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:27.000
+All going away thanks to this guy's many patents on how to make small soap bubbles.
+
+01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:29.000
+Holy crap.
+
+01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:36.000
+What happened here?
+
+01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:38.000
+I muted it somehow.
+
+01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:40.000
+They do that.
+
+01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:44.000
+So the next few years, obviously other vaccines are certainly in the cards.
+
+01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:49.000
+Universal flu vaccine, for example, HIV is looking promising.
+
+01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:53.000
+The chronic diseases, for example, heart diseases.
+
+01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:57.000
+There's just a paper published basically for heart failure.
+
+01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:02.000
+I'm sure we can eliminate fibrosis fibrotic lesions in the liver and the heart gets better
+
+01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:04.000
+using a protein cell approach actually.
+
+01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:08.000
+Inherited diseases, the obviously replacing a protein that's not being made.
+
+01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:10.000
+Anyway, the list goes on and on.
+
+01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:14.000
+And so it's a very exciting time to be in medicine when we're suddenly enabling all of our
+
+01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:18.000
+understanding of microbiology in a very direct therapeutic manner.
+
+01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:20.000
+So it's changing the game.
+
+01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:23.000
+Clearly he doesn't deserve a Nobel Prize for this work.
+
+01:32:23.000 --> 01:32:27.000
+It might be very creative from a chemical perspective and a right might be quite creative
+
+01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:33.000
+from a product development perspective, from a methodological development perspective,
+
+01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:42.000
+from a mathematical therapeutic perspective, from a biological insight perspective,
+
+01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:47.000
+and I mean if there's anything that you can take from this, the idea that Robert Malone
+
+01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:52.000
+said this guy should have gotten the prize before them is really
+
+01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:58.000
+That to me makes Robert Malone sound like a cloud.
+
+01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:04.000
+Because I was ranting at the beginning, this guy's a real scientist, a real chemist.
+
+01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:06.000
+He did this, these experiments.
+
+01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:09.000
+He made these measurements.
+
+01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:15.000
+The insights that he's gained in terms of how to put these things inside of stuff,
+
+01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:21.000
+to put RNA and DNA inside of these things and then make changes in animals.
+
+01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:24.000
+It all works great.
+
+01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:26.000
+But that is so very different.
+
+01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:33.000
+Augmenting a pattern integrity that's about to self-destruct, like a man with
+
+01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:39.000
+head or amyloidosis, is not the same as augmenting a pattern integrity that is currently
+
+01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:47.000
+operating perfectly with exquisite precision and has the momentum to operate with that
+
+01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:52.000
+exquisite precision for another 90 years.
+
+01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:53.000
+Let me explain that again.
+
+01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:57.000
+It's very different to augment the system.
+
+01:33:57.000 --> 01:34:03.000
+A pattern integrity that is within five years of self-destruction.
+
+01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:09.000
+A man with head or amyloidosis, who has less than five years to live and is a
+
+01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:14.000
+wasting disease.
+
+01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:20.000
+Augmenting that pattern integrity for it to last longer or to become more stable is
+
+01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:33.000
+not the same ethical, biological, chemical or temporal problem of augmentation that
+
+01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:45.000
+augmenting a four-year-old perfect child's immune system is.
+
+01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:49.000
+It's not the same.
+
+01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:51.000
+It's not even the same ballgame.
+
+01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:56.000
+It's not even the same sport.
+
+01:34:56.000 --> 01:35:05.000
+And this kind of representation that the anecdotal Jesse Gelsinger that didn't
+
+01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:11.000
+die is evidence that we can use this technology to augment the perfect children
+
+01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:14.000
+of the world.
+
+01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:23.000
+It's just so wrong and so ridiculous, arrogant and naive.
+
+01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:27.000
+As somebody in the chat said, this guy really likes to be bought.
+
+01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:31.000
+He loves selling his stuff.
+
+01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:35.000
+He's very proud of it.
+
+01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:44.000
+But he's no, he's no, I guess I would say he's no genius.
+
+01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:50.000
+The talk started out amazing and it ended really weak.
+
+01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:57.000
+Because after all that, all that pomp and circumstance in the beginning there was
+
+01:35:57.000 --> 01:35:58.000
+really nothing left.
+
+01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:05.000
+It's just a bunch of soap bubbles and he got distracted by therapies and products and
+
+01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:11.000
+processes that he could patent and charge people money for.
+
+01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:15.000
+And his understanding of lipids and his understanding of how lipids are used in
+
+01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:20.000
+biology, how they're used in cells, how they're used in exosomes, how they're used in
+
+01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:29.000
+endosomes became secondary even tertiary to the objective of delivering nucleic
+
+01:36:29.000 --> 01:36:35.000
+acids to cells in animals and people.
+
+01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:39.000
+That's what I see.
+
+01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:40.000
+And I agree with the person in the chat.
+
+01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:45.000
+I think it was Jason M. who said that he likes to be bought.
+
+01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:50.000
+That's what's very obvious here.
+
+01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:52.000
+In a fundamental way.
+
+01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:57.000
+Now, I can't stop without acknowledging all of the people I've worked with for literally 40 years
+
+01:36:57.000 --> 01:37:00.000
+as I pointed out, as well as many as Mick Hope Tom Madden.
+
+01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:05.000
+As many such as Steve Ansel, Ying Tam, Barbooie, Paul Lynn, 20 years or more.
+
+01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:07.000
+And the people that are beautists.
+
+01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:09.000
+Ian McLaughlin, James Hayes, O'Mileham.
+
+01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:12.000
+This is a hugely successful collaboration.
+
+01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:15.000
+Mark Tracy, akin to King Martin Mayor, Madam Madam Heron.
+
+01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:20.000
+Marcus Ifloni in the chemistry department at UBC who really played a big role in breaking
+
+01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:22.000
+the whole problem of the ionized lipids.
+
+01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:24.000
+Now, I think these things work in the brain.
+
+01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:26.000
+I haven't discussed that, but it's in my own group.
+
+01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:28.000
+And of course, rewisement at the University of Pennsylvania.
+
+01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:32.000
+So with that, I'll close and take any questions that's rewisement at the University of
+
+01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:33.000
+Pennsylvania.
+
+01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:37.000
+So he didn't thank Carrico at all?
+
+01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:41.000
+Just Weismann?
+
+01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:42.000
+That's kind of shit.
+
+01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:43.000
+He isn't it?
+
+01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:44.000
+I don't know.
+
+01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:48.000
+I mean, I know she was on the slide earlier, but I mean Weismann and not her.
+
+01:37:48.000 --> 01:37:50.000
+Maybe she's not at Penn anymore.
+
+01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:53.000
+She's at BioNTech, so he doesn't have Doug in here.
+
+01:37:53.000 --> 01:37:56.000
+Maybe, but he's got other people here.
+
+01:37:56.000 --> 01:38:00.000
+So with that, I'll close and take any questions that people may have.
+
+01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:07.000
+Thanks, Peter.
+
+01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:08.000
+That was a fantastic talk.
+
+01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:10.000
+And if there's anybody who has any questions, please raise your hand.
+
+01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.000
+But maybe I'll start with.
+
+01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:15.000
+So silencing a protein is one thing, putting one in that's going to be upregulated.
+
+01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:17.000
+How do you control that regulation?
+
+01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:19.000
+How do you know you don't over-expressing a protein?
+
+01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:21.000
+Have you even talked to that?
+
+01:38:21.000 --> 01:38:22.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:24.000
+I mean, one of the things about this approach course is titradable.
+
+01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:26.000
+So you can start low and work it up.
+
+01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:29.000
+The other is that it's not like you're inducing production for protein forever.
+
+01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:32.000
+You know, you're going to get it going from maybe a week or two.
+
+01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:33.000
+But that's about it.
+
+01:38:33.000 --> 01:38:35.000
+And so it's self-limiting in that extent too.
+
+01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:39.000
+So if you're causing nasty side effects, then no case stop giving it and then things will.
+
+01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:40.000
+So that would do.
+
+01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:42.000
+Things will go back to normal.
+
+01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:46.000
+If it's not autoimmunity, you see how naive they are?
+
+01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:49.000
+If you're getting bad side effects, just don't give anymore.
+
+01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:50.000
+And it'll go back to normal.
+
+01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:54.000
+That's not how...
+
+01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:55.000
+It's not all of this works.
+
+01:38:55.000 --> 01:39:00.000
+I mean, it might work that way in a mouse if you don't look very hard.
+
+01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:05.000
+But that's not how it works in a four-year-old girl.
+
+01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:10.000
+That's not how it worked in Jesse Gelsinger.
+
+01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:13.000
+Holy crap.
+
+01:39:13.000 --> 01:39:17.000
+I mean, holy crap.
+
+01:39:17.000 --> 01:39:18.000
+That is extraordinary.
+
+01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:19.000
+My next question.
+
+01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:21.000
+How often do you think you'd have to give something if you were dosing?
+
+01:39:21.000 --> 01:39:23.000
+It depends on the length of time that you want.
+
+01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:26.000
+And also the stability of the protein that you're producing.
+
+01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:29.000
+Like antibodies, we can make those in the liver.
+
+01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:31.000
+Say if you put the heavy-like gene mRNA in.
+
+01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:34.000
+And they'll circulate around for, say, a week or so because they're fairly stable.
+
+01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:37.000
+Other molecules, you know, might be a matter of a night.
+
+01:39:37.000 --> 01:39:41.000
+He just said they can make antibodies in the liver.
+
+01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:46.000
+Have you ever thought about that possibility that they can give you mRNA that would just make antibodies?
+
+01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:52.000
+Then you're cells that express antibodies in the liver, I guess.
+
+01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:54.000
+Do they just excrete them then or what?
+
+01:39:54.000 --> 01:39:56.000
+That's incredible.
+
+01:39:56.000 --> 01:40:01.000
+I mean, I'm sure it's fine if you make other cells other than the immune system cells make antibodies, right?
+
+01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:02.000
+I mean, what difference does it make?
+
+01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:04.000
+B cells, liver cells, who cares?
+
+01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:05.000
+Anybody's or anybody's, right?
+
+01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:07.000
+An hour or so.
+
+01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:13.000
+So it's going to, this is where you're going to see improvements in the technology itself.
+
+01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:16.000
+You know, a more of a depot effect to have things play out over a longer time.
+
+01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:19.000
+There's a long way to go in the ways in which we can manipulate things.
+
+01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:22.000
+And in your delivery system, do you think there's going to be a way to actually target it to different tissues?
+
+01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:27.000
+So right now you've been talking about getting it into the liver, but how do you, can we actually restrict which tissues?
+
+01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:28.000
+It's going to be tricky.
+
+01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:29.000
+That's going to be tricky.
+
+01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:33.000
+People have been trying to target these lipid or many nanomedicine actually.
+
+01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:35.000
+That's going to be tricky.
+
+01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:37.000
+I thought it stayed in the muscle right now.
+
+01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:41.000
+I thought the COVID-19 vaccine stayed in the muscle.
+
+01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:44.000
+Is he actually admitting that it doesn't?
+
+01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:50.000
+In 2022 at a University of Manitoba Gardener Lecture.
+
+01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:55.000
+He's admitting it's tricky to target it to a tissue.
+
+01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:58.000
+I thought it just stayed in the muscle.
+
+01:40:58.000 --> 01:41:01.000
+Oh, wait, it goes all over the body.
+
+01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:03.000
+And they're admitting it now.
+
+01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:05.000
+Do you hear it?
+
+01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:07.000
+It's kind of funny.
+
+01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:09.000
+It's like they don't even care.
+
+01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:11.000
+Holy shit.
+
+01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:16.000
+Being into the liver, but how do you, can we actually restrict which tissues?
+
+01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:17.000
+It's going to be tricky.
+
+01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:18.000
+That's going to be tricky.
+
+01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:22.000
+People have been trying to target these lipid or many nanomedicine actually.
+
+01:41:22.000 --> 01:41:24.000
+More specifically to where you want it from than to cancer cells.
+
+01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:28.000
+It's an obvious choice without any success over 40 years of trying.
+
+01:41:28.000 --> 01:41:30.000
+And that put points out how difficult it is.
+
+01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:33.000
+You tend to raise an immune response or you put it on the outside.
+
+01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:35.000
+And you get aggregation and the difficulty of the manning.
+
+01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:36.000
+But the list goes on and on.
+
+01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:38.000
+I've worn out five graduate students.
+
+01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:41.000
+You get aggregation.
+
+01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:45.000
+I mean, he wore out five grad students.
+
+01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:46.000
+Holy crap.
+
+01:41:46.000 --> 01:41:49.000
+And that put points out how difficult it is.
+
+01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:55.000
+40 years of trying and they still haven't gotten into work.
+
+01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:58.000
+You tend to raise an immune response or any problem on the outside.
+
+01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:00.000
+And you get aggregation and difficulty of the manning.
+
+01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:01.000
+But the list goes on and on.
+
+01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:04.000
+I've worn out five graduate students on that project.
+
+01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:05.000
+The last one refused to go on.
+
+01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:06.000
+That's why I changed your projects.
+
+01:42:06.000 --> 01:42:07.000
+Okay.
+
+01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:08.000
+I did that.
+
+01:42:08.000 --> 01:42:10.000
+But the points.
+
+01:42:10.000 --> 01:42:12.000
+But there are other ways to go.
+
+01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:16.000
+The microbiology, you can start to say, okay, one of the expressed in a particular cell.
+
+01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:18.000
+That requires very sophisticated microbiology.
+
+01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:20.000
+But I think it's doable.
+
+01:42:20.000 --> 01:42:24.000
+Oh, there he's talking about cree recombinase or something like that where it's independent.
+
+01:42:24.000 --> 01:42:25.000
+The mRNA is dependent.
+
+01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:30.000
+It's expression won't happen unless there's a gene present or a protein.
+
+01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:33.000
+You could use that too.
+
+01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:34.000
+That could work.
+
+01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:42.000
+Then the mRNA'd go a bunch of places and just sit there and you never know what it would do until...
+
+01:42:42.000 --> 01:42:44.000
+He just admitted it.
+
+01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:46.000
+He just admitted they don't have a clue where it goes.
+
+01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:48.000
+They can't control where it goes.
+
+01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:50.000
+He wasted five grad students on it.
+
+01:42:50.000 --> 01:42:55.000
+The last one said, if you don't change my project, I'm going to quit.
+
+01:42:55.000 --> 01:43:00.000
+And his solution is that we can make the molecular biology of the molecule that we're carrying
+
+01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:06.000
+in the lipid nanoparticle dependent on the cell type.
+
+01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:13.000
+But that's some pretty sophisticated biology, but I think it's doable.
+
+01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:18.000
+I'm hurting my tongue now.
+
+01:43:18.000 --> 01:43:20.000
+He completely admitted it.
+
+01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:24.000
+The other approach is that things are activated by external stimulation.
+
+01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:28.000
+One of the nice things you can do with the nanoparticles, we can incorporate things like iron oxide
+
+01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:30.000
+nanoparticles or golden up.
+
+01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:33.000
+And then laser or RF or whatever other stimulation you can see.
+
+01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:38.000
+Oh, we can use radio frequencies or electricity to open them.
+
+01:43:38.000 --> 01:43:41.000
+Oh, walk in, Robert Malone, please.
+
+01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:47.000
+Why don't we just bring in Robert Malone from the right side of the stage with his electroporation gun?
+
+01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:51.000
+They say, OK, turn something on here, but not here.
+
+01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:54.000
+So there's going to be approaches that will achieve that.
+
+01:43:54.000 --> 01:44:00.000
+There's going to be approaches that will achieve specificity in the targeting of lipid nanoparticles,
+
+01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:05.000
+but we don't have it yet.
+
+01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:09.000
+We're sorry, but all you people that took the lipid nanoparticle and thought we had it.
+
+01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:12.000
+Sorry, we didn't really have it yet.
+
+01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:13.000
+But we're going to get there.
+
+01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:16.000
+It's coming just over the next hill.
+
+01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:20.000
+Any questions from the audience?
+
+01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:23.000
+A question here and then a question way at the back and up there.
+
+01:44:23.000 --> 01:44:24.000
+So we'll start here.
+
+01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:25.000
+I'll go up there.
+
+01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:26.000
+So please, loudly.
+
+01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:27.000
+All right.
+
+01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:28.000
+Very nice computer.
+
+01:44:28.000 --> 01:44:34.000
+So I mean, it's sort of alluded to that open, but with mRNA, our ability is obviously a kind of limited expression
+
+01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:38.000
+so that works well for an acute disease or a vaccine.
+
+01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:43.000
+But any work on DNA, the research then says it's going to come back
+
+01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:49.000
+and we'll be able to see if it's an integration or say an internal coming to be where you don't have that.
+
+01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:52.000
+Yeah, we worked on it without any success.
+
+01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:55.000
+I mean, it's commonly used in cell culture for context.
+
+01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:56.000
+Absolutely.
+
+01:44:56.000 --> 01:44:58.000
+I mean, in cell culture, you've got rapidly dividing cells.
+
+01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:02.000
+He said it's got to be used in cell culture for transfection.
+
+01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:06.000
+But the problem is that for cells that are not rapidly dividing,
+
+01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:10.000
+and so therefore the nucleus isn't, you know, you can't get things into the nucleus as readily,
+
+01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:12.000
+then these systems don't work.
+
+01:45:12.000 --> 01:45:16.000
+And so that's a, which is, you know, we certainly haven't beaten that one.
+
+01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:20.000
+Jason M, you're totally correct, but we had already busted that.
+
+01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:25.000
+There's no frickin' way that Robert Malone didn't know that they hadn't solved this problem.
+
+01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:28.000
+There's no frickin' way that he didn't know that.
+
+01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:34.000
+And him saying that is just a bald-faced lie, but they're liars.
+
+01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:39.000
+They are liars.
+
+01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:44.000
+Remember, Robert Malone gave a talk in front of the who about flu vaccines
+
+01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:48.000
+and flu vaccine fill-and-finish technologies.
+
+01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:55.000
+And after he finished that talk in 2011, he was thanked by Rick Bright.
+
+01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:58.000
+Robert Malone has been in this space.
+
+01:45:58.000 --> 01:46:01.000
+A vaccine technology and brokering of vaccine technologies
+
+01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:06.000
+between non-governmental organizations and governmental organizations
+
+01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:09.000
+for more than three decades.
+
+01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:13.000
+Robert Malone has been in this space of gene delivery
+
+01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:17.000
+and RNA delivery for three decades.
+
+01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:20.000
+And there's no way on God's green earth that he didn't know
+
+01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:25.000
+that lipid nanoparticles had no means of mechanistically targeting a tissue.
+
+01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:28.000
+Never mind that it could stay where you put it.
+
+01:46:28.000 --> 01:46:35.000
+He knew it was exactly the opposite, and he's a liar every time he said that he thought that they had solved it.
+
+01:46:36.000 --> 01:46:41.000
+And he and other people are responsible for all of the damage
+
+01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:47.000
+that has been done by this horrible, poor excuse for a medical product.
+
+01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:52.000
+They're all responsible because they all knew.
+
+01:46:52.000 --> 01:46:56.000
+He also knew.
+
+01:46:56.000 --> 01:46:59.000
+He knows that they can't make it stay in the shoulder.
+
+01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:04.000
+He knows that they lied about it.
+
+01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:10.000
+Every time he's heard someone talk about it, he knows they're lying.
+
+01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:16.000
+Yeah, we're feeling pretty good about having God's power if he's gotten,
+
+01:47:16.000 --> 01:47:19.000
+but yes, there's other barriers to get through for sure.
+
+01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:26.000
+Yeah, yeah, and there's no doubt we can get DNA into the cytoplasm
+
+01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:29.000
+in the same way that we can, or that messenger RNA,
+
+01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:32.000
+but to get it into the nucleus.
+
+01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:36.000
+At least for non-dividing cells, we haven't achieved that.
+
+01:47:44.000 --> 01:47:47.000
+Oh, yeah, no, we're fiddling around with every possible...
+
+01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:49.000
+Well, we really haven't figured out.
+
+01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:51.000
+I mean, it's coming to light now a little bit,
+
+01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:55.000
+but are the structure-activity relationships between the structure of the lipid nanoparticle
+
+01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:59.000
+and the actual activity in vitro and in vivo.
+
+01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:02.000
+Well, those things are starting to become elucidated.
+
+01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:03.000
+It's quite remarkable.
+
+01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:04.000
+You have a very successful medicine,
+
+01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:07.000
+and we still don't understand some of the basics of how it actually works.
+
+01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:11.000
+We have a very successful medicine,
+
+01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:13.000
+but we still don't understand how it works.
+
+01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:16.000
+Actually, I think you're unaware that it doesn't work.
+
+01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:20.000
+I think you have been misled to believe that it works, but it don't work.
+
+01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:29.000
+Holy shit, I can't believe it.
+
+01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:32.000
+So, you know, those things are becoming pure.
+
+01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:37.000
+A lot of it has to do with manipulating the various components that we have in there.
+
+01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:57.000
+I'm sorry, I can't hear the question anymore.
+
+01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:05.000
+I don't know if it's worth listening anymore.
+
+01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:08.000
+We've already caught him on the worst one.
+
+01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:12.000
+We've already caught him on the worst possible thing he could have said.
+
+01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:16.000
+And that is that we don't know how to target places.
+
+01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:18.000
+Yeah, we can't make it go anywhere.
+
+01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:20.000
+We don't know how to do that.
+
+01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:25.000
+So, it goes to the liver because it goes to the liver because that's what the liver does.
+
+01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:27.000
+It cleans stuff out.
+
+01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:29.000
+So, a lot of it will go to the liver.
+
+01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:30.000
+It could go to the bone marrow.
+
+01:49:30.000 --> 01:49:32.000
+It goes wherever we said it goes.
+
+01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:38.000
+And it goes random because he doesn't know how to control it at all.
+
+01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:41.000
+He burnt five post-docs on that project.
+
+01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:46.000
+The last one threatened to quit.
+
+01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:48.000
+We're trying all kinds of stuff.
+
+01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:51.000
+But it's crazy.
+
+01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:52.000
+We have a working medicine.
+
+01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:54.000
+We don't know how it works.
+
+01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:00.000
+We have been completely and totally bamboozled.
+
+01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:03.000
+Even this guy has been completely and totally bamboozled.
+
+01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:05.000
+That his bullshit works.
+
+01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:12.000
+It's extraordinary.
+
+01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:17.000
+You want to link to this video?
+
+01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:20.000
+It's just extraordinary.
+
+01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:23.000
+I just can't believe it.
+
+01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:25.000
+I thought it was going to be kind of a fun video at the start.
+
+01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:29.000
+I thought we were going to hear some really intelligent guy.
+
+01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:32.000
+Real smart dude.
+
+01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:40.000
+Tell us all about the limitations of his work.
+
+01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:48.000
+It turns out it's just, you know, serendipitous that they were able to make something that ended up saving the world.
+
+01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:51.000
+That's how science works.
+
+01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:54.000
+I guess it's just serendipity.
+
+01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:57.000
+Although we still don't know how it works.
+
+01:50:57.000 --> 01:50:59.000
+We still don't know why it works.
+
+01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:06.000
+We're still not really, I mean, wow, I'm just, I'm a loss for words.
+
+01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:09.000
+I'm fumbling really bad here.
+
+01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:16.000
+But obviously these guys believe in pandemic potential because they think their technology saved us from it.
+
+01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:18.000
+And they're Canadian.
+
+01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:25.000
+So it sounds like they're pretty down with the inversion of individual rights to community privileges.
+
+01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:31.000
+If you don't take these highly effective.
+
+01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:36.000
+What an illusion of consensus we have to fight my friends.
+
+01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:40.000
+What a terrible place we live right now.
+
+01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:51.000
+Where the who can invert our understanding of respiratory disease can invert the way that we treat respiratory disease to lead to a higher cause, all cause mortality.
+
+01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:58.000
+But the TV and social media could lead us to believe that an RNA molecule did it.
+
+01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:03.000
+And RNA molecule did it.
+
+01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:13.000
+And it was a RNA molecule that's been pretty consistent all around the world for like four years now, except for one part of it.
+
+01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:20.000
+And this lie is going to, it's going to deceive our children and our grandchildren.
+
+01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:28.000
+And if we don't dispel this lie, our grandchildren will be enslaved by it.
+
+01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:34.000
+This illusion of consensus will enslave our children if we don't break it now.
+
+01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:36.000
+And we don't have that much time.
+
+01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:39.000
+We got about a year.
+
+01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:44.000
+Bobby's book is coming out in December 5th.
+
+01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:52.000
+And from that point on, we have about a year to break it and break the illusion we must.
+
+01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:57.000
+Because people are still solving the mystery.
+
+01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:03.000
+People are still believing that we had to change our mind about these things because it was a novel virus.
+
+01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:12.000
+And people have still not taken into account how many people were killed by these protocols.
+
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+And how many people were killed by some novel thing, RNA.
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+People are not talking about this stuff anymore, ladies and gentlemen.
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+01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:31.000
+It's me and Mark and crickets.
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+And it shouldn't be this way.
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+This illusion of consensus about a laboratory leak needs to be broken.
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+We need people to understand that they have taken a natural phenomenon, a natural noise signal and turned it into a consensus about a laboratory leak.
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+By fooling us into believing that something was covered up.
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+01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:59.000
+I'll tell you what was covered up, that the PCR test is bogus.
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+01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:07.000
+I'll tell you what was covered up, that there are coronavirus signals everywhere that we can't really track and follow with any fidelity.
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+01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:15.000
+And so we make shit up and we use infectious clones to try and approximate them in a laboratory.
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+Nobody's talking about that.
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+Protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine.
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+It might have been an infectious clone. It could have been a transfection agent.
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+I don't care what you call it, it wasn't no viruses.
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+Because we can make infectious clones and we can make exosomes and we can make self replicating RNA.
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+And we can package that in little tiny, little tiny vesicles.
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+You don't want to call them viruses, don't call them viruses, but transfection works.
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+Transformation works.
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+And these things can be sprayed.
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+That's it.
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+The protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine.
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+01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:09.000
+The players will continue not to address the PCR as fraud.
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+01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:16.000
+These players will continue to address the variants as real and unquestionable.
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+01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:21.000
+They're not going to talk about death certificate fraud or whether the RNA is pure or not.
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+01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:27.000
+They're going to focus exclusively on our DNA contamination.
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+They're not going to talk about protein folding and how that impacts the potential epitopes that are generated by a codon optimized pseudo-uridine substituted version of a viral protein.
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+01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:53.000
+Not going to talk about transfection in general and the fact that it doesn't really work except for in limited circumstances where a biological pattern integrity is about to be destroyed.
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+01:55:54.000 --> 01:55:59.000
+By cancer or had or amyloidosis.
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+01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:05.000
+And all of these same people are not talking about natural immunity at all.
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+01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:07.000
+They never have.
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+01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:12.000
+They've never given you an immuno 101 lecture.
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+01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:15.000
+Never mind a six hour one.
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+01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:18.000
+That's how I see through all these liars.
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+If somebody says they're an immunologist by training and they've never done an immunology lecture online in three years of being a dissident, they're a liar.
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+01:56:39.000 --> 01:56:46.000
+They are trying to invert our sovereignty to permissions because they want our data.
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+01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:49.000
+More importantly, they want our children's data.
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+01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:53.000
+Most importantly, they want our children's children's data.
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+01:56:53.000 --> 01:57:03.000
+This is a long game for all the marbles.
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+01:57:03.000 --> 01:57:10.000
+And it starts here, intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
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+01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:15.000
+And transfection is not immunization.
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+We need to teach our grandparents this, our parents this, and our children this.
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+Or they will be enslaved by this mythology for the rest of their lives.
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+Ladies and gentlemen, stop all transfections in humans because they are trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary.
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+I'm just going to keep pushing through.
+
+01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:53.000
+Either I'm going to completely lose my voice or it's coming back soon.
+
+01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:56.000
+I like my new hat.
+
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+Bessel Park Black Hawks.
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+01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:09.000
+Pittsburgh.
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+Thanks for joining me, guys. I'll see you tomorrow.
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+42, 42, 42 in a row, baby.
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+Thanks for being here, guys. Good to see you, Jeff from Earth.
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+01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:49.000
+Good to see you again, Christie.
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+01:58:49.000 --> 01:58:56.000
+Grace Southwick. I haven't seen you here in a while, but thank you for being here tonight, Andy Rock.
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+01:58:56.000 --> 01:59:05.000
+And Madarina, thank you very much, sir, for being here and being the doubter in the group or the critic in the group.
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+01:59:05.000 --> 01:59:09.000
+I really appreciate you being here and still keeping it real.
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+Lisa Simon says, good night.
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+Sue Spider.
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+Welcome to Eagle.
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+01:59:15.000 --> 01:59:17.000
+You want to be a guest on the show?
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+You want to be a guest on the show sometime? Welcome to Eagle.
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+01:59:21.000 --> 01:59:27.000
+There's a lot of people at the Defender that are interested in hearing about your bears reporting.
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+01:59:27.000 --> 01:59:34.000
+And they would like you to be on the show, so maybe you need to send me an email.
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+01:59:34.000 --> 01:59:36.000
+See you, guys.
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+Welcome, Roger B.
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+Welcome, Roger B.
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+Welcome, Roger B.
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+Janet, how are ya? Pamela, good to see you. Lots of the same humans here, good to see you team human.
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+Just another meeting of the control group.
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+Welcome, Roger B.
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+Welcome, Roger B.
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+Welcome, Roger B.
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+Please don't forget to check out Mark's work. There's a lot of serendipitous synergy happening here. Please check Mark's work.
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+He's scheduled for 60 minutes next. He's going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television. People everywhere are starting to listen to him. It's embarrassing.
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+The kids deserve a lot of credit. This town's been flooded with phony 20s for weeks.
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+Oh, it was nothing, really. But old Mr. Pietro posing as a doorman sure had us fooled for a while.
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+He really gave himself away when he put on his little puppet show for us.
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+The real hero of Scooby-Doo. And by the way, where is he? Oh no, look at him.
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+Like I said before, what a ham.
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+Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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+Not a super long show for you today, ladies and gentlemen. I hope I can keep it under an hour.
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+Why would you understand that you're in the city of the AIDS?
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+Yes, yes, two days ago. Why would you understand that you're in the city of the AIDS?
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+Yes, yes, two days ago. Why would you understand that you're in the city of the AIDS?
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+Yes, yes, two days ago. Why would you understand that you're in the city of the AIDS?
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+Yes, yes, two days ago. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. This is Gigo on Biological Eye Resistance Low Noise Information Brief brought to you by a biologist.
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+It's the 18th of October, 2023.
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+We are trying to stop these people from misleading the young any further by spreading the truth of the biology that was concealed for the last three years and longer.
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+Because if we don't struggle hard enough to get the power back from these charlatans now, our children will never get it back.
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+We need to call attention.
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+We need to call attention to the bricks at the back of the theater.
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+While our kids still have a chance to see them.
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+Sorry about that.
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+Thank you.
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+My name is Jonathan Cooley and I'm coming to you live from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the United States of America.
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+We have been trying to fight against an ongoing narrative in the United States and around the world.
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+It seems to have fooled all of us with a TV or a cell phone into believing that there was a lab leak of a gain of function virus in Wuhan that led to all of Western society having to shut down.
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+And the absolute calamity that was the last three years.
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+And we are trying to stop taking the bait on TV and social media to avoid continually perpetuating this mythology.
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+We're essentially trying to stop talking about it so that our kids stop believing in it.
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+But we also need to actually actively dispel it now.
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+So we need to work against that was supposed to fly in a little better than that.
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+That's annoying.
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+So I'm just going to get out of here for a second. That's annoying.
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+That's what we want to actually like that.
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+Exactly.
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+So I've told you already before that this Scooby-Doo mystery that we've been led to solve is ongoing.
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+And I've shown you how it's ongoing.
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+There is a book coming out by Rand Paul that's called The Great Cover Up With a Man on the cover with a mask that needs to be taken off to reveal his identity.
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+Exactly what a Scooby-Doo mystery is.
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+It's kind of hilarious actually how on the head this is really from the perspective of my recent sort of narrative attempt at explaining to people what has happened.
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+But it shouldn't surprise you that Robert Malone is retweeting something by Ford Fisher of a video of somebody being arrested in the Capitol.
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+It shouldn't surprise you that some of the people on this little diagram that I've been using for a long time now to remind you that the intellectual dark web was a social media construct that was created in around 2018.
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+By a guy who was then becoming quite rich under the under the direction of and helping another person by the name of Peter Teal become rich.
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+Eric Weinstein who is from the weird symbology perspective oddly just portrayed as the guy here if you can see my arrow.
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+Under the black umbrella of all of the guys and gals in this picture up here at the top.
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+Man I didn't do that again I keep forgetting to set up my secondary camera because I'm always being such a dork here.
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+Sorry about that.
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+And I should have cut already.
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+So this picture that I'm talking about up here here's Eric Weinstein he's at the top underneath the black umbrella if you know any of the kind of you know spooky symbology that goes along with the conspiracy theories of modern Western society you know that being under a black
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+umbrella is a symbol and he's the only one there under a black umbrella.
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+I would suggest to you that that means he's more or less the guy who organized this and I can give you a number of wonderful examples in the coming weeks of why that's likely true and what the real plan was.
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+It's probably likely that Eric Weinstein was encouraged to organize the intellectual dark web by Peter Teal or some you know permutation of that.
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+So it shouldn't surprise you that like Robert Malone retweeting a Palestinian demonstration and in the capital.
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+He also have Brett Weinstein retweeting and and talking about Majeed.
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+He's on this picture back here as well.
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+Where is he.
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+Maybe he's behind my head here.
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+He's one of these guys.
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+Or maybe he didn't make it into this picture he made it into a different no there he is right there that's that's the picture he's in.
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+Here's Brett Weinstein talking about Majeed I think his name is for sure.
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+But he's he had tweeted that that they put a black flag over some mosque and wherever and so that means that it's time for World War or some nonsense like that I don't know what it is.
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+But of course he's got that wrong and even Wikipedia and the and the things under here get it right I mean all you have to do is click on that and realize that this isn't the flag he's talking about at least according to Wikipedia.
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+Which tends to be correct it just tends to omit things usually the things on Wikipedia check out.
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+And it certainly seemed like in this case it does but that didn't seem to stop Brett Weinstein from feeling it was okay to you know tweet stuff about Jews and Muslims and stuff.
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+So they're all playing the same game they're all playing the same misdirection game.
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+They're all playing this governance game of governance by mythology and it's not just mythology about immunology of course.
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+But the mythology about biology is the stuff that's easiest to see through because it doesn't involve so much personal opinion and who said what.
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+And that's what makes politics a real politics so complicated.
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+Because biology is just straightforward and when you find out that they're lying they're just playing lion.
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+And so this illusion of consensus is what we're trying to break and it's an illusion of consensus about a novel virus for which we were all vulnerable that we all had to do something that the RNA saved people from but could have been better.
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+And even if it wasn't the next one could be.
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+That's about the best that I can summarize the consensus of all these people.
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+They all think the same thing.
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+And crazy enough the people that watch the view and the people that watch CNN and the people that watch Saturday Night Live also think basically the same thing.
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+It's all a question of how dark they want to imagine their reality but they realize that it's all possible or they think they've realized that it's all possible because by assuming the challenge of the Scooby-Doo mystery you assume or you rather take on its presuppositions.
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+The Scooby-Doo mystery relies on the idea that the McGuffin of a dangerous novel virus circulating the planet a dangerous RNA sequence that McGuffin has to be real otherwise the whole thing falls apart.
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+And so these pieces have been moving around Peter McCullough has been really doing a lot of good in my mind recently by coming out against the vaccine but I have collected some videos in the last 25 minutes that have just made me want to bang my head on a wall.
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+He was on Dr. Drew with Kelly Victory again and I didn't have time to put him into this thing I'm going to use them tomorrow but they're just suffice it to say that I'm not happy because we are again talking about variants and about how variants are being pushed around by the vaccines or
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+by Pax Lovid or Mopovineer and I'm just not going to have this anymore these people don't have any evidence for this they don't have any evidence for it other than the cartoonish data dumps by the CDC themselves
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+and so like it or not Kelly Victory is going along with the CDC story and perpetuating this faith 100% the faith and unless we correct Dr. Peter McCullough then he's going to be perpetuating the faith as well
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+that there is a novel virus out there in circulation that they can track with a PCR test
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+and that people are getting sick from it and it's different than the flu and it came from a lab and it's all one story and this can't be possible
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+it's we're in big trouble because we're not winning it feels like we're winning but we're not winning we're going to talk a lot about it with Jolie tomorrow it's at five o'clock Eastern
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+it's just crazy to me how every time I get excited we take three steps backwards
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+so we've got to keep working and just keep reminding yourselves of the truth and make sure that you understand it well enough to share with your family and friends but the show is definitely going to go on yesterday we had a really good broadcast
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+I was really strong I hit a couple real high notes in there with regard to what the modern biologists the modern molecular biologists really understands about what they do at the bench and therefore what a virologist really understands what he or he or she does at the bench
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+the sheer lack of awe and reverence for the sacred of biology that's evident in all of these people just making products
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+and so as we go through this thing once again of course we had to have Kevin McCurnan come back up I don't want to ignore him because I do believe that they have to use the truth in order to make the narrative work
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+and so we have to make sure that we don't not use the truths that we are given in order to make the narrative crumble and so I believe that Kevin McCurnan has many many times been present
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+at key moments during the pandemic to be present to health control monitor or even influence groups of people that were on the verge of making too much known
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+and so tonight I want to watch his presentation to the world council for health is only a 12 minute presentation and then I just want to talk a little bit with some notes about what I see as being some of the oddities with regard to this guy's sort of presence in the in the COVID dissident movement from really the very beginning
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+but not quite as early as I thought oh yeah so we don't need to go there yet so first of all just remind you
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+in late 2020 I'm not sure what month this group of authors published a a critique of the who and its published PCR protocol and of the people that are on this paper I think you'll find a number of extremely interesting names
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+Peter Borger is somebody you might know from Twitter Rajish Kumar Mahaltra is a guy who talks all the time about glowing mice and for a while he was my friend and then he blocked me
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+Michael Eden you know Claire Elizabeth honor Craig is one of the founders of the heart foundation H A R T a UK group Kevin McCurnan is the hero of the day
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+Thomas Binder is of course somebody I've shared with you a few times he's a doctor from Switzerland one of the most steadfast outspoken heroes of the pandemic
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+and I'm not I think I know all more commerce also but they those are the names that really come to mind and I think that you should probably know of and then they made this a denim to it so I'll give you this these links just so you can maybe follow up on your own I love Thomas Binder too I think he's fantastic
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+he's really a no holds barred what is this why is that could we all because I opened it of course okay so we'll do this
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+and then there's this one I think there's one here but that's also on my download so I gotta get those back so anyway that's what we're doing we're gonna watch this video and then we can talk a little bit about what
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+in total what we got because he was on my stream twice plus I've done a couple live streams with him on other streams I think once with Matthew I think we did this five person stream that's on rumble that John Bodwin hosted
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+so yeah there we've had a lot of interaction during the course of the three years before he blocked me
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+and to be quite frank the reason why he blocked me is because he doesn't like the clone discussion and doesn't like RNA clones as being important
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+and it is really the thing he decided to blow me off about which is really weird because that's definitely a home run like
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+there's no denying that that basically is RNA virology it's infectious clones where you basically have almost nothing and the idea that they want to cover that up is just the biggest red flag of them all it's like a denny size red flag flapping in the wind off the interstate here we go
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+so with no further ado on that intro to get this where we are in history at this epic time and very grateful for expert panel we'd like to start with Kevin McCurnan Kevin was a team leader of R&D for the Human Genome Project he co founded
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+Agincourt Biosciences Corporation and acted as the CSO until its sole Kevin was the president and chief officer of Agincourt Personal Genomics a startup company he co founded in 2005 to
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+in revolutionary sequencing technologies. In 2023 Kevin used Nuschiger RNA vaccines as positive controls in an RNA sequence experiment aiming to understand the pathogenicity of hop late and bureau infections in cannabis and this sequencing revealed the double stranded DNA contamination in the widely
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+demonstrated messenger RNA vaccines so Kevin's really been at the front of this discovery he has facilitated labs around the world including David Spellich here in Canada who just published in great work and confirming his work so with no further
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+you Kevin if you please come forward and enlighten the audience I know this could be a this could be a two day in very interesting lecture but in brief if you could help bring people up to speed what you found and where we're at
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+absolutely thank you for having me I'm just going to move this over to present hopefully this behaves
+
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+all right there we are so I'm going to touch on some of the technical details on what we're measuring here and how we ran into them so this is discussion about the quantity of plasmids that we can find inside of these messenger RNA vaccines
+
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+and I don't have any conflicts to declare I don't work in the scene I
+
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+so you know the funny thing is I was going to make a joke but I thought my space bar would pause it I would speed it up but I don't think we need to speed it up with Kevin he is about the fastest rapid fire talker that we've come across during the pandemic
+
+23:36.000 --> 23:51.000
+and he's going to throw so much information at the next 14 minutes it's pretty impressive team space this all started back in April with this preprint where we did this RNA sequencing that Mark was just mentioning this can give you more of the details that we're going to go into here very briefly
+
+23:51.000 --> 24:05.000
+this will remind you which not in that what is not in that preprint is something that retziflevi and Josh Goodscow presented in the BMJ which is that the the vials that were in fact approved are not the vials that were given to the public
+
+24:05.000 --> 24:14.000
+the clinical trial was run on something known as process one that used PCR to make the DNA that was going to then turn into the RNA to make the spike protein
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+once the trial was complete they switched this is a big bait and switch they moved to a production process that manufactured this DNA in a coli and with that comes a different risk there's clean DNA on the left which is process one there's no background a coli there's no endotoxin present in this in this process
+
+24:32.000 --> 24:44.000
+when they switch to scale this up they put this plasmid into a coli to grow it and replicate it and now you have to get the DNA out of a coli and not have any of the parts of a coli come with it and unfortunately there are parts of a coli that can create
+
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+anaphylaxis something known as endotoxin and there are these plasmids that have additional DNA that were not present in the actual clinical trial so we started sequencing lots that were a mixture some that were in fact not expired but had been tapped into by clinicians and other ones that were
+
+25:00.000 --> 25:08.000
+unopened but were expired these are the monovalent vaccines for Pfizer the prior ones were the bivalent vaccines for Moderna and Pfizer
+
+25:08.000 --> 25:25.000
+upon sequencing these I think the most striking revelation was that the Pfizer vaccines actually had a component that was not disclosed the regulators this this plasmid map on the right is what was disclosed the EMA and there's no mention of the SV40 components that are in that are now known to be inside this DNA sequence
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+25:25.000 --> 25:34.000
+and the plasma on the left is what we actually found very similar in length but has all these other components in it that are not disclosed the regulators nor to the patients taking these
+
+25:34.000 --> 25:50.000
+why do we care about SV40 well SV40 is a known tool this particular enhancer the 72 base part enhancer that David Dean's lab has studied so well it binds transcription factors that drags any DNA attached to it into the nucleus so it's actually a well published tool for gene therapy
+
+25:50.000 --> 26:01.000
+if you want to get DNA into the nucleus this is the this is the shuttle that you use to get it done if you have lipid nanoparticles that are encapsulating this material you now have a Trojan horse to get into the cells as well
+
+26:01.000 --> 26:18.000
+so what did we do once we found the sequencing we knew peer review was going to be quite challenging and it would take a long time so the best thing you can do in those circumstances are publish methods that allow other people to reproduce the work faster than peer review can occur and I think you'll see that's exactly what's happened so we designed three different assays
+
+26:18.000 --> 26:33.000
+one that targets the vector this this bacterial origin of replication inside of the plasmid and the other one that targets this spike protein we have a third assay now that we're working on as well to track the presence of this SV40 promoter in particular biopsies of interest
+
+26:33.000 --> 26:44.000
+the sequencing I'm sorry that the quantitative PCR of this will give you numbers that don't add up to 35% it's much lower than that with PCR and I'm going to explain why PCR does not capture every piece of DNA that's in the files
+
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+but if you take a one to a hundred dilution of these things you'll get CTs in the 22 range that puts them in there on the 17 range if you don't if you shoot them straight in
+
+26:54.000 --> 27:07.000
+for context when you're getting a COVID test you you could be called positive in a CT of 35 this is a log to scale that's about a million times less material than what we're injecting into people with the actual vaccine
+
+27:07.000 --> 27:20.000
+so COVID might call you positive and COVID test might call you positive at 35 we're injecting stuff that's closer to 17 a million times more concentrated than what you'll see that you can be called positive from the actual nasal test so there's a lot in there
+
+27:20.000 --> 27:32.000
+some critiques of the work have centered around that these vaccines are expired well they've injected expired vaccines into people that's not a very good argument but you can also measure how degraded these things are by running these RNA integrity
+
+27:32.000 --> 27:46.000
+assays that Pfizer uses we've done that we don't see excessive degradation of the violence of the sequence to date and you're going to see other people who have who have touched on these vaccines and sequenced them that are not expired and have better chain of custody than we had received
+
+27:47.000 --> 28:01.000
+now several other people have replicated this it started with a group in Japan who took our sequence data and reassembled it and actually found the same vector that we found some other folks were playing around with PCR finding low levels of DNA but they found DNA indeed in Japan
+
+28:02.000 --> 28:09.000
+through Twitter that some folks in France and D.D. a Realtz Lab found DNA as well I've not seen the methods yet but we're open to further discussion on that
+
+28:09.000 --> 28:16.000
+William Engel has also sequenced his own vials in Europe and found the Pfizer sequence as well
+
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+but this shouldn't surprise anybody because the EMA made note of the high variance of DNA contamination in the Pfizer vials that were presented to them
+
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+I've got to go back a little bit because I'm taking too many notes here and I'm missing things
+
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+I'm going to go back just a little bit I'm very sorry but I don't want to miss stuff
+
+28:37.000 --> 28:44.000
+up to 35% it's much lower than that with PCR and I'm going to explain why PCR does not capture every piece of DNA that's in the vials
+
+28:44.000 --> 28:53.000
+but if you take a one to a hundred dilution of these things you'll get CT's in the 22 range that puts them in there on the 17 range if you don't if you shoot them straight in
+
+28:53.000 --> 29:06.000
+for context when you're getting a COVID test you you could be called positive at a CT of 35 this is a log to scale that's about a million times less material than what we're injecting into people with the actual vaccine
+
+29:06.000 --> 29:19.000
+so COVID might call you positive and COVID test might call you positive at 35 we're injecting stuff that's closer to 17 a million times more concentrated than what you'll see that you can be called positive from the actual nasal test so there's a lot in there
+
+29:19.000 --> 29:32.000
+some critiques of the work have centered around that these vaccines are expired well they've injected expired vaccines into people that's not a very good argument but you can also measure how how degraded these things are by running these RNA integrity
+
+29:32.000 --> 29:44.000
+assays that Pfizer uses we've done that we don't see excessive degradation of the vials of the sequence to date and you're going to see other people who have who have touched on these vaccines and sequence them that are not expired and have better chain of custody
+
+29:44.000 --> 29:56.000
+than what we had received now several other people have replicated this it started with a group in Japan who took our sequence data and reassembled it and actually found the same vector that we found some other folks were playing around with PCR
+
+29:56.000 --> 30:08.000
+that we got to stop right there
+
+30:08.000 --> 30:19.000
+so first of all I apologize because I really lose my breath very easy now and I need to kind of rest for a minute before I start talking again
+
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+I'm not sure why he's explaining that they have to do a 1 to 100 dilution here it might just be to make it more available for the PCR reaction to start
+
+30:33.000 --> 30:44.000
+then goes on to say though that one of the limitations was that the lots are expired and so people are saying it's not fair to evaluate those
+
+30:44.000 --> 30:55.000
+but he says that they've done RNA integrity confirmations and seen that that's indeed the case that their RNA is intact
+
+30:55.000 --> 31:08.000
+shoulders here right of unknown RNA fragments and those are very dangerous for small interfering RNAs if I understand my biology correctly
+
+31:08.000 --> 31:14.000
+but he seems to indicate that those are pretty okay but he's got question marks there that he doesn't mention now
+
+31:14.000 --> 31:27.000
+but he says that the RNA integrity is confirmed on arrival and then when he says that other people have started to replicate his work
+
+31:27.000 --> 31:47.000
+if you listen carefully the first people to replicate his work are people that are in Japan and all they do is take his sequencing data and reassemble it and find a similar or the same plasmid
+
+31:47.000 --> 32:04.000
+so that's not really the same thing as replicating your work it's like if you I don't know this word scramble comes out the same way when you do it and I do it is not exactly replicating the work at least not in the same way
+
+32:04.000 --> 32:16.000
+but then he goes on to say that other people are doing similar reactions but it's just key to see that that I don't think that's super surprising maybe I'm a little naive but
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+if what he said he found is in there and that's what's really in there then what else are they gonna find
+
+32:25.000 --> 32:35.000
+and then they didn't try to find it again they just took his sequencing data and found it well done it's a bit like oh here's a COVID variant that's all scrambled here
+
+32:35.000 --> 32:43.000
+why don't you see what you find when you put it together oh look I found SARS-CoV-2 wow must be a pandemic then
+
+32:44.000 --> 33:03.000
+I mean it's not convincing to me but anyway that's what he's listing here I'm putting way too much weight on that though the more important thing or interesting thing is DDA rolled in France also replicating his data
+
+33:03.000 --> 33:19.000
+of course DDA was also the guy who had the first paper about hydroxychloroquine working with the first people that were infected in France so in a lot of respects DDA is responsible for
+
+33:19.000 --> 33:33.000
+seeding a narrative of a novel virus spreading around the earth and we've talked about that before so it's interesting that again he comes up here as part of the narrative oh yeah there's definitely DDA big time bad news
+
+33:33.000 --> 33:48.000
+which I agree with it is big time bad news but I hope you can see that five years ago they could have had this on the planning table and then how are we gonna do it yeah well we're gonna delay everybody for a year or so
+
+33:48.000 --> 34:10.000
+maybe even two years with all kinds of nonsense about I don't know how about nanoparticles and graphene and hydras and magnetism and we'll talk about RNA codon optimization and pseudo uridine and the RNA not being pure
+
+34:11.000 --> 34:23.000
+but we'll never let any of those stories none of those will get traction it'll just keep everybody spinning their wheels in the background everybody'll ignore it and then when it's time to blow up the whole thing
+
+34:23.000 --> 34:38.000
+we'll send Kevin out there with the with the wonderful evidence that it's contaminated and then he can give primers to everybody and everybody can confirm that all the lots were contaminated
+
+34:38.000 --> 34:50.000
+and so without a doubt in this very talk you're gonna hear at some point him saying how this therapeutic can be better better brought out in the future
+
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+or maybe he'll even use the words regulated in the future to prevent this kind of thing and then you'll know then you'll know that Jay was a hundred percent right like a hundred percent right
+
+35:03.000 --> 35:14.000
+just keep listening through Twitter that some folks in France and D.D. A. Realt's lab found DNA as well I've not seen the methods yet but we're open to further discussion on that
+
+35:14.000 --> 35:28.000
+William Engel has also sequenced his own vials in Europe and found the Pfizer sequence as well but this shouldn't surprise anybody because the EMA made note of the high variance of DNA contamination in the Pfizer vials that were presented to them
+
+35:28.000 --> 35:37.000
+and 815 fold variance in just the 10 vials that they were given. The EMA didn't measure this as his data that Pfizer gave to the EMA.
+
+35:37.000 --> 35:49.000
+Since then more quantitative reproduction has been done with Phillip Buckholt's work he has actually replicated this with RQPCR assays. He's also sequenced this with Oxford Nanopore and has found the fragment size distribution.
+
+35:49.000 --> 36:00.000
+Dr. Sin Lee has done replication of this on Sanger sequencing. Now this was not quantitative replication but it did give us nice Sanger gold standard confirmation that the primers were using in fact target this vector.
+
+36:00.000 --> 36:13.000
+And I think you're going to hear later today Brigitte Conning has also replicated this in Germany. The reason I emphasize this is that half of the papers that come through peer review can't be reproduced so the attention should be on reproduction not on peer review.
+
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+And I want to touch on today that some new data that just came from David Speacher's lab. He studied 24 vials. This is the largest study done to date.
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+You can contact him at these contacts I have down here on the left. He has a sub stack and a Twitter handle. He went through 24 different vials, 8 from Pfizer, 12 from Dernan.
+
+36:34.000 --> 36:39.000
+And he's also finding DNA contamination in every one of these vials.
+
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+I wonder what Jessica Rose is doing for that.
+
+36:43.000 --> 36:52.000
+And why is Jessica Rose doing anything? She's an independent researcher in Canada. Has she ever had independent with an A?
+
+36:52.000 --> 37:06.000
+Has she ever had a faculty position anywhere? Not that a faculty position matters but generally speaking before the pandemic if you were going to be a scientist you either worked for a company or you worked for a university.
+
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+Or you couldn't really call yourself an independent researcher. That's a bit like barista then. I don't know I find it a bit odd.
+
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+I don't know what she's doing for them in this in this case. It'd be interesting to know what exactly she's doing for them.
+
+37:27.000 --> 37:33.000
+And I wanted the barrel to watch with her because she's been on Malik.
+
+37:33.000 --> 37:41.000
+I'm in Malik's podcast and it's a really insightful interview.
+
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+24 different vials, 8 from Pfizer, 12 from Dernan.
+
+37:46.000 --> 37:50.000
+And he's also finding DNA contamination in every one of these vials.
+
+37:50.000 --> 37:57.000
+The majority of vials are below the 10 nanogram FDA limit which we're going to touch on why that number is a bit arbitrary based on how you measure it.
+
+37:57.000 --> 38:05.000
+But the Pfizer vials, three of them were all over the limit. And if you chart these with the adverse events Jessica Rose will be touching on this perhaps bit later.
+
+38:05.000 --> 38:11.000
+The adverse events seem to stack with the vials that have higher DNA concentrations.
+
+38:11.000 --> 38:15.000
+If you put this through a dose response curve David Wiseman put this together.
+
+38:15.000 --> 38:21.000
+You can see that there does seem to be a response with the small number of samples that we have based on dose.
+
+38:21.000 --> 38:23.000
+Now there can be other confounders in this data.
+
+38:23.000 --> 38:31.000
+What we cannot control for is what we would call process three. There is another change in the manufacturing process where they change TRIS and PBS.
+
+38:31.000 --> 38:36.000
+So initially initial lots were in PBS. They moved them over to TRIS for Pfizer Moderna was always in TRIS.
+
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+And this may have its own impact that we have not yet considered in this.
+
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+And I could be confounding some of the signals that we're seeing on this dose response curve.
+
+38:44.000 --> 38:50.000
+Okay, I want to touch on the variance you're going to see measuring this is very dependent on what technology you use.
+
+38:50.000 --> 38:53.000
+You'll see some large numbers that vary out there in the news.
+
+38:53.000 --> 38:56.000
+And that's because if you use different tools you'll get different numbers.
+
+38:56.000 --> 39:03.000
+And this is a vulnerability in the regulations right now because you can cherry pick different tools to give the regulators whatever you want.
+
+39:03.000 --> 39:11.000
+All right, so if you put this tool through Oxford Nanopore, which sequences all of the molecules as single molecules does a great job finding a large fragments.
+
+39:11.000 --> 39:14.000
+In fact, we found a fragment in just a short 800.
+
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+I find it a little odd that he says that does a great job of finding the large fragments because when I was talking about the infectious cycle and about how they used Oxford Nanopore to look at viral replication of an infectious clone and culture.
+
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+And they could only find 11 full genomes of the virus or even let's say 11 transcripts that represented anything close to a full genome.
+
+39:45.000 --> 39:56.000
+His argument was is that you got to know the limitations of the methodology or using an Oxford Nanopore doesn't work very well for long sequences.
+
+39:57.000 --> 40:04.000
+Did you hear what I said?
+
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+It doesn't work for long sequences.
+
+40:06.000 --> 40:07.000
+Now that may be true.
+
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+Maybe it doesn't work for a long sequence like 30,000 bases, which is what the full genome of a virus would be in according to the cartoon.
+
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+But I know that I heard him say it.
+
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+And the capabilities of Oxford Nanopore sequencing are beyond 2 million contiguous bases.
+
+40:27.000 --> 40:35.000
+So 30,000 is by no means outside of the ballpark range of possibility.
+
+40:35.000 --> 40:47.000
+And yet one of the arguments that he made on Twitter as dunking on me before he blocked me was that one of the limitations of Oxford Nanopore was it wasn't very good with long sequences.
+
+40:47.000 --> 40:52.000
+Here he is telling the world that it's great at finding long sequences. It doesn't like little ones.
+
+40:52.000 --> 40:59.000
+66 read a small sequencing run that was 3.5 KB long and encompassed the entire backbone of the plasmid.
+
+40:59.000 --> 41:02.000
+We found another one that was 2.5 KB.
+
+41:02.000 --> 41:07.000
+But the important thing to know about this is that it doesn't do a very good job capturing the very small molecules.
+
+41:07.000 --> 41:11.000
+And you can see from this molecule distribution map here, a lot of the mass is actually small.
+
+41:11.000 --> 41:17.000
+They are trying to get rid of this, but the process of getting rid of this is creating something that's a little bit more dangerous for DNA integration.
+
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+This is the process that they use to get to purify the DNA before it goes on to Oxford Nanopore.
+
+41:23.000 --> 41:27.000
+It's called ampere. I'm familiar with this. I spent a lot of time commercializing this tool.
+
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+It doesn't do a good job capturing the small molecules.
+
+41:30.000 --> 41:35.000
+They're using this area in red to purify the DNA before it goes on to the Oxford Nanopore system.
+
+41:35.000 --> 41:37.000
+So it removes the really small material.
+
+41:37.000 --> 41:41.000
+So we're undercounting the small material when we use Oxford Nanopore.
+
+41:41.000 --> 41:43.000
+We're also undercounting it with QPCR.
+
+41:43.000 --> 41:47.000
+Anything that's smaller than 100 bases will not amplify with QPCR will miss it.
+
+41:47.000 --> 41:53.000
+But if you put this DNA in a florometer that stains any length DNA, you get numbers that are 10 to 100 fold higher.
+
+41:53.000 --> 41:56.000
+You'd be speckled to the same thing.
+
+41:56.000 --> 42:05.000
+So this is important because the regulators were given florometry data for the RNA and QPCR data for the DNA in order to cook the books to fit the regs.
+
+42:05.000 --> 42:09.000
+But this can be something that we all need to be attentive to making regulations going forward.
+
+42:09.000 --> 42:11.000
+What are the risks of DNA?
+
+42:11.000 --> 42:13.000
+Well, there's some papers out there suggesting it's prothrombotic.
+
+42:13.000 --> 42:15.000
+If you create a...
+
+42:15.000 --> 42:17.000
+Did you hear it? Did you hear it? You probably missed it.
+
+42:17.000 --> 42:19.000
+You had it as higher.
+
+42:19.000 --> 42:21.000
+Did you hear it? You speckled to the same thing.
+
+42:21.000 --> 42:30.000
+So this is important because the regulators were given florometry data for the RNA and QPCR data for the DNA in order to cook the books to fit the regs.
+
+42:30.000 --> 42:34.000
+But this can be something that we all need to be attentive to making regulations going forward.
+
+42:34.000 --> 42:37.000
+What are the risks of DNA? Well, there's some papers out there suggesting it.
+
+42:37.000 --> 42:42.000
+Making regulations going forward. Did you hear it?
+
+42:42.000 --> 42:44.000
+Boy, I hope you heard it.
+
+42:44.000 --> 42:47.000
+So this is some technology that he wants to get rid of.
+
+42:47.000 --> 42:52.000
+He doesn't want to stop all RNA transfection like a lot of doctors do.
+
+42:52.000 --> 42:55.000
+Like a lot of biologists do.
+
+42:55.000 --> 42:58.000
+Like I wanted to do from the very beginning.
+
+42:58.000 --> 43:03.000
+Like Mike Eden and Sukhir Bhakti wanted to do, I think.
+
+43:03.000 --> 43:08.000
+No. He wants better regulations to avoid these problems.
+
+43:13.000 --> 43:18.000
+I think it's pro thrombotic. It can create an interferon risk using oxygen in a pool.
+
+43:18.000 --> 43:20.000
+We're also undercounting it with QPCR.
+
+43:20.000 --> 43:24.000
+Anything that's smaller than 100 bases will not amplify with QPCR will miss it.
+
+43:24.000 --> 43:30.000
+But if you put this DNA in a florometer that stains any length DNA, you get numbers that are 10 to 100 fold higher.
+
+43:30.000 --> 43:33.000
+You'd be speckled with the same thing.
+
+43:33.000 --> 43:39.000
+So this is important because the regulators were given florometry data for the RNA and QPCR data for the DNA
+
+43:39.000 --> 43:42.000
+in order to cook the books to fit the regs.
+
+43:42.000 --> 43:46.000
+But this can be something that we all need to be attentive to making regulations going forward.
+
+43:46.000 --> 43:50.000
+What are the risks of DNA? Well, there's some papers out there suggesting it's pro thrombotic.
+
+43:50.000 --> 43:53.000
+It can create an interferon response.
+
+43:53.000 --> 43:57.000
+Keep Pettit and has published up the FDA, some of the risks of genome integration that can occur.
+
+43:57.000 --> 44:02.000
+And it's important to dissect his paper because his paper touches on the nanograms of DNA,
+
+44:02.000 --> 44:08.000
+but we really should be talking about copy numbers of DNA because all you need in 10 nanograms of DNA,
+
+44:08.000 --> 44:10.000
+you can get 1,000 copies of the human genome.
+
+44:10.000 --> 44:14.000
+But 10 nanograms of 200 bases of DNA, there's 50 billion copies of DNA.
+
+44:14.000 --> 44:21.000
+So he's saying that smaller copies because they have more active DNANs are more dangerous.
+
+44:22.000 --> 44:31.000
+And as was just pointed out in the chat, there's DNA in all the vaccines that we use.
+
+44:31.000 --> 44:37.000
+And if we actually actively look for it, I think Kevin McCurnan would find it.
+
+44:37.000 --> 44:43.000
+If he used that stain he just described a few minutes ago, I bet he'd find it in spades.
+
+44:43.000 --> 44:48.000
+And small little DNAs are dangerous, says Kevin.
+
+44:48.000 --> 44:55.000
+We've got to get it out of there.
+
+44:55.000 --> 44:57.000
+Do you see where we're going here, ladies and gentlemen?
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+44:57.000 --> 45:03.000
+This is a joke.
+
+45:03.000 --> 45:15.000
+Applying these kinds of detailed molecular inspection to one product and not another.
+
+45:15.000 --> 45:29.000
+Knowing full well that the idea that there's no DNA in some of these childhood shots is just ridiculous.
+
+45:29.000 --> 45:39.000
+So malarities more important because it's the concentration of the sticky ends of DNA, the active 5 prime hydroxyls and phosphates that govern integration risks.
+
+45:39.000 --> 45:43.000
+A great paper down here will touch on this and show you how much of this stuff actually integrates.
+
+45:43.000 --> 45:45.000
+We also know the DNA is packaged.
+
+45:45.000 --> 45:48.000
+We've done some studies adding a nucleus to the vaccine.
+
+45:48.000 --> 45:50.000
+It does not change the CT scores.
+
+45:50.000 --> 45:55.000
+That tells you that the DNA is packaged inside the LNPs, which means it's transfection ready.
+
+45:55.000 --> 46:02.000
+Now, there's a problem with this is that when there's plasma DNA around, that means there's endotoxin around from a coli.
+
+46:02.000 --> 46:09.000
+And the lipid nanoparticles we know from the paper on the right basically obscure your ability to measure these things with LAL assays.
+
+46:09.000 --> 46:15.000
+We also know that the spike protein when expressed exacerbates the effect of endotoxin.
+
+46:15.000 --> 46:24.000
+So the combination of a poor readout and a protein that's expressed that exacerbates the impact of endotoxin means we need to be very close attention to the endotoxin numbers,
+
+46:24.000 --> 46:27.000
+which happen to be redacted in most of the information that's given.
+
+46:27.000 --> 46:28.000
+I don't have much more time.
+
+46:28.000 --> 46:31.000
+I think everyone's familiar that we can find this stuff everywhere in the body now.
+
+46:31.000 --> 46:35.000
+The bio distribution studies touch on this and now papers are coming out showing this in the heart.
+
+46:35.000 --> 46:40.000
+So to touch on your point about cancer, for the last few slides here, we are always cancering.
+
+46:40.000 --> 46:44.000
+It's just when mutagenesis outpaces the immune system that you begin to notice it.
+
+46:44.000 --> 46:47.000
+So you usually need more than one thing to cause cancer.
+
+46:47.000 --> 46:49.000
+So increasing the DNA alone may not do it.
+
+46:49.000 --> 46:58.000
+It may increase the mutagenesis rate, but unless you, if you also have a chronic insult to innate immune system like we know from these vaccines with lymphocytopenia and neutropenia,
+
+46:58.000 --> 47:02.000
+some of the effects of IgG4, some of the effects of the N1 methyl suiuridine.
+
+47:02.000 --> 47:06.000
+This combination can be a real potent combination.
+
+47:06.000 --> 47:12.000
+The third point we have is that there's some paper suggesting we're inhibiting the guardians of the genome, P53 and BRCA1.
+
+47:12.000 --> 47:19.000
+So all three of these things create a perfect storm that may be responsible for the cancer arise that we're seeing.
+
+47:19.000 --> 47:23.000
+I'd point everyone to John Bodwin's work looking at the death records in Massachusetts.
+
+47:23.000 --> 47:27.000
+That is a clear cut sign that we have an increase in cancer post-vaccination.
+
+47:27.000 --> 47:29.000
+Okay, final slide here.
+
+47:29.000 --> 47:31.000
+What's the call to action?
+
+47:31.000 --> 47:33.000
+We've put these primer sequences public.
+
+47:33.000 --> 47:34.000
+Anyone can download them.
+
+47:34.000 --> 47:35.000
+Anyone can replicate this.
+
+47:35.000 --> 47:39.000
+If you're not comfortable doing that, we're making some kits to enable this for pathologists.
+
+47:39.000 --> 47:46.000
+We've been asked for these from blood banks, burn banks, fertility clinics, people interested in breast milk, transplant organs and biopsies.
+
+47:46.000 --> 47:49.000
+There should be about 5,000 of these tests ready in late November.
+
+47:49.000 --> 48:01.000
+So Kevin is going to be controlling the PCR tests that are going to be used to find out what's going wrong in all of these tissues.
+
+48:01.000 --> 48:05.000
+He's going to be the guy after all these years.
+
+48:05.000 --> 48:13.000
+After all these different places that he's been inserted into the narrative, all the times he's come forward.
+
+48:13.000 --> 48:24.000
+A guy who's been working with the secret parts of the science part of the government.
+
+48:24.000 --> 48:32.000
+Because if you don't think the Human Genome Project was part of the DoD or nuts, since he cut his teeth with it,
+
+48:33.000 --> 48:35.000
+he's been working with the US government.
+
+48:35.000 --> 48:45.000
+The highest levels of the US government, he's got pictures of himself much younger with Francis Collins.
+
+48:45.000 --> 48:56.000
+If there's anybody that's privileged to ideas on what's going to be done with genomic data in the future, it's him.
+
+48:57.000 --> 49:04.000
+Hang it around with Eric Lander.
+
+49:04.000 --> 49:11.000
+I don't know if you recall or not, but
+
+49:11.000 --> 49:17.000
+when I start with this slide, this picture on his Twitter is his backyard.
+
+49:17.000 --> 49:23.000
+That's the Atlantic Ocean, the harbor in Boston.
+
+49:23.000 --> 49:31.000
+It's like a 7,000 square foot mansion in one of the most expensive places on earth.
+
+49:31.000 --> 49:44.000
+He's talking about companies, multiple biotech companies that he started and then sold.
+
+49:45.000 --> 50:06.000
+And you think that this guy is now coming to our rescue, throwing away the possibility of future military contracts, future government contracts by outing the US government's failure to provide a safe product,
+
+50:06.000 --> 50:17.000
+rather than being a controlled opposition dude who's going to make sure that this comes out in exactly the right way, at exactly the right time,
+
+50:17.000 --> 50:22.000
+with exactly the right talking points,
+
+50:22.000 --> 50:27.000
+so that we never circle back to all the other stuff,
+
+50:27.000 --> 50:35.000
+and that we just focus on this as we regulate this stuff in the future.
+
+50:35.000 --> 50:43.000
+And for the normies, this is a great hero here, right? Wow, there was DNA in the shots. That's crazy. I can't believe it.
+
+50:43.000 --> 50:49.000
+For the people that watch the view and CNN, this is about all they're ever going to get.
+
+50:49.000 --> 51:04.000
+A year from now or six months from now, they're going to see Kevin McCurna and think, wow, that's crazy.
+
+51:05.000 --> 51:12.000
+This is a time for us now to get CLIA labs going and to get IRBs in place so we can begin to measure this in patients that have been injured.
+
+51:12.000 --> 51:16.000
+And with that, I'll pass it off. Thank you.
+
+51:16.000 --> 51:23.000
+Well, thank you very much, Kevin. I'm really impressed how we ran through all this information in such a time.
+
+51:23.000 --> 51:26.000
+I didn't think it was possible. So thank you very much.
+
+51:26.000 --> 51:31.000
+And thank you so much for your pioneering work into this highly important topic.
+
+51:31.000 --> 51:39.000
+And just to recap that, yeah, his findings have been confirmed multiple times, there were no exception,
+
+51:39.000 --> 51:51.000
+and that the other interesting thing you pointed out, Kevin, was that the vials handed in for the regulatory bodies were different from the ones given to the public.
+
+51:51.000 --> 52:04.000
+And we'll talk more about the consequences that you touched on with the other panel speakers. So thank you very much. And see you later.
+
+52:04.000 --> 52:19.000
+So he gave us a little talk about DNA contamination. He reminds us about endotoxin. I would like to remind you that Malone told us in an interview that he solved that problem already.
+
+52:19.000 --> 52:34.000
+I remember if it was that Vay John Health interview, or was the one before that that we were watching, but he definitely said that he had solved the endotoxin problem. I know it for sure, because it's in my notes previous pages.
+
+52:34.000 --> 52:48.000
+The European medical something something application didn't disclose the promoters that were used in the process to write. So that's normal. We knew that that already.
+
+52:48.000 --> 52:55.000
+This be 40 can be a nuclear targeting sequence. I didn't know that. But, you know, apparently that's, that's true. Whatever. It's fine.
+
+52:55.000 --> 53:05.000
+QPCR primers for the spike and as we 40 and one other one that he was sending around and people were using those primers and confirming that stuff was in there.
+
+53:05.000 --> 53:14.000
+The RNA is now intact. And they remember that he was on my stream talking about how the paperwork that was submitted by the,
+
+53:14.000 --> 53:20.000
+by the vaccine manufacturers to the regulators indicated that the RNA indeed wasn't pure and it was a smear.
+
+53:20.000 --> 53:36.000
+So the smear, I think was still visible in the, in the image that he used in the form of the shoulders that were on both sides of the peak, which indicated the intact RNA.
+
+53:37.000 --> 53:51.000
+And so those small RNAs are the ones that have the potential for small interference and an interference of RNA interference. And so, especially in pregnant women where that potentially could go to the, to the fetus, those small RNAs.
+
+53:51.000 --> 54:00.000
+Wow, crazy, hot, small DNA, small RNAs. Those are the dangerous ones are in there, but he's not really talking about those small RNAs.
+
+54:00.000 --> 54:18.000
+He did talk about the small DNAs though. So that's fine, I guess. DNA replicated sequence assembly. And so that was the Japanese group that had taken their sequence data and replicated the assembly of the plasmid, which I again said, I don't think that's that big a deal.
+
+54:18.000 --> 54:25.000
+I did find it strange that DDARI old slab is part of this. I found it interesting.
+
+54:25.000 --> 54:44.000
+I don't think you will remember this, but just before this DNA crap came out, he had a series of tweets where he lamented that it was unfortunate that they didn't test the LNP in control experiments first because it could be that they're going to have to ditch the RNA technology
+
+54:44.000 --> 54:58.000
+because they hadn't tested the LNP first and maybe the LNP was causing all of this, all of this havoc, all of these adverse events that were going to be blamed on the RNA. He tweeted that.
+
+54:58.000 --> 55:11.000
+That's for sure. And so, it's just another one of those things that he mentioned as a flash in the pan, but it never really became anything except for his two followers on the few podcasts that he talked to at that time.
+
+55:12.000 --> 55:21.000
+And he's been doing that since about the end of 2020 when he first came on the scene.
+
+55:21.000 --> 55:31.000
+So then he says that the LNP prevents you from testing for the concentration of the endotoxin, which I found curious, and that the spike makes it worse.
+
+55:32.000 --> 55:35.000
+So what a crazy narrative this is.
+
+55:35.000 --> 55:40.000
+And so the DNA plus an immune assault could equal cancer.
+
+55:40.000 --> 55:49.000
+And of course, also the interference with P 53 and broke one is also possible increases in cancer.
+
+55:49.000 --> 55:59.000
+So I just want to make a quick list before I say good night of the things that Kevin has come out against or about or spoken out against.
+
+55:59.000 --> 56:04.000
+So you can see how what my problem is.
+
+56:04.000 --> 56:20.000
+So this is a list of Kevin McCurnan objections.
+
+56:20.000 --> 56:26.000
+So the first one that he came out with was the PCR test.
+
+56:26.000 --> 56:31.000
+And I showed you that over here with this paper.
+
+56:31.000 --> 56:45.000
+And the addendum, which has a lot more data on what they found and undiluted samples and what they think they should have done with the primers and this kind of thing.
+
+56:45.000 --> 56:51.000
+So first they objected to it in short form and then they put an addendum that explained some of the things that they thought were wrong.
+
+56:51.000 --> 56:55.000
+Sorry, I'm looking at the camera, but you can't see me.
+
+56:55.000 --> 57:04.000
+And so this was already in 2020 and then the addendum was sometime in early 2021.
+
+57:04.000 --> 57:20.000
+And so first he came out objecting to the PCR test, but not.
+
+57:20.000 --> 57:31.000
+It's important to realize that not the use of PCR to detect COVID, but the specific design of the PCR test that was being used.
+
+57:31.000 --> 57:42.000
+In other words, it's fine to use PCR test to test for a novel virus during a pandemic. It's just not that the way you designed it.
+
+57:42.000 --> 57:45.000
+I know how to design it better.
+
+57:45.000 --> 57:49.000
+That's the first objection.
+
+57:49.000 --> 57:59.000
+The second objection that he had, I believe, was that the RNA wasn't pure.
+
+57:59.000 --> 58:09.000
+And this came from the regulatory agencies paperwork where there was a smear of RNA instead of what should have been a band.
+
+58:09.000 --> 58:20.000
+And the third thing he came out with was in concert with Stephanie Sineff.
+
+58:20.000 --> 58:29.000
+And that was the code on optimization.
+
+58:29.000 --> 58:31.000
+And why did he come out with that?
+
+58:31.000 --> 58:41.000
+I think it was because we came out with it around this a lot earlier and we were still pushing the idea that silent mutations can cause genetic diseases.
+
+58:41.000 --> 58:49.000
+Silent mutations are changes in the genetic code, which don't change the amino acid coded for in the RNA.
+
+58:49.000 --> 59:02.000
+But somehow or another, changing those codons that are synonymous codons can change the way the protein folds and still result in and actually often in disease.
+
+59:02.000 --> 59:10.000
+So part of the codon optimization problem is the idea that it will be folded differently than the viral protein will be folded.
+
+59:10.000 --> 59:17.000
+And then the second thing is the chemical alteration.
+
+59:17.000 --> 59:21.000
+And the chemical alteration is the pseudo-uridine, right?
+
+59:21.000 --> 59:31.000
+And the pseudo-uridines, as he said, could cause premature stop codons.
+
+59:31.000 --> 59:42.000
+And also other things, because they're we wobble bases, so you could cause substitutions as well.
+
+59:42.000 --> 59:48.000
+Sorry about that. I was looking through my glasses there for a minute.
+
+59:48.000 --> 59:54.000
+And so this is also RNA, right? This is also RNA.
+
+59:54.000 --> 01:00:02.000
+And it's two things really, but we put codon optimization and chemical alteration in the same, in the same bunch here.
+
+01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:13.000
+Then for about two weeks, I just mentioned it a minute ago, he said the LNP hadn't been dang it.
+
+01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:20.000
+hadn't been control tested.
+
+01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:30.000
+And he tweeted that out and he said he lamented that we might be throwing away the RNA or blaming the RNA because the lipid nanoparticle wasn't properly tested.
+
+01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:38.000
+Then that objection completely disappeared and then came the CDNA contamination.
+
+01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:50.000
+Now what I want you to understand is that in all of these objections, there might be valid biology here.
+
+01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:55.000
+In fact, I believe there is.
+
+01:00:55.000 --> 01:01:00.000
+And it's valid biology that needed covering up and needed control.
+
+01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:03.000
+It needed muffling.
+
+01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:16.000
+It needed somebody that could be promoted in social media that would satisfy the need to be heard of other people.
+
+01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:18.000
+Like me.
+
+01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:33.000
+Me complaining needs to have somebody like Jessica Rose or Robert Malone or Kevin McKernan out ahead of me saying the things that I think need to be said so that I can cheer for them.
+
+01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:38.000
+Instead of promote me instead of think that my work needs to be done.
+
+01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:43.000
+I mean, my goodness, if these great people are doing it, what do I need to do?
+
+01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:53.000
+And I believe that Kevin is likely a person that was installed on purpose to step in front of people like Claire Craig and Mike Eden and Thomas Binder.
+
+01:01:53.000 --> 01:02:02.000
+Look at this list of people that he was allowed to step with in front or out with together.
+
+01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:19.000
+Thomas Binder, Mike Eden, Claire Craig, those three already are enough for me to believe that he was added to that paper or joined that paper just to make sure that he could be on them and influence them.
+
+01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:20.000
+Should they need a phone call?
+
+01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:21.000
+Remember me?
+
+01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:22.000
+I'm Kevin.
+
+01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.000
+I got to straighten you out on something.
+
+01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:36.000
+And then he goes through the PCR test to the RNA is in pure to the code on optimization and chemical alteration over the course of about a year and a half.
+
+01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:48.000
+Keeping everybody running in this hamster wheel about what's going to be the right objection. Oh, is there another reason to object? Is there another reason to object? Oh, my goodness.
+
+01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:56.000
+Then the LNP, then the DNA contamination and all the while in there, no one's ever talking about infectious clones.
+
+01:02:56.000 --> 01:03:00.000
+All the while in there, nobody's talking about the swarm.
+
+01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:13.000
+All the while in here, everybody is moving from one thing to another and not talking about transfection in its best form would be garbage.
+
+01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:23.000
+And least of all is Kevin is definitely never saying that transfection of a healthy child is absolutely murderous.
+
+01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:28.000
+It's absolutely foul.
+
+01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:32.000
+But he's just saying that the DNA in there is foul.
+
+01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:38.000
+We should be careful with it as we go forward as we regulate these things going forward.
+
+01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:50.000
+He should be saying because of all of these list of things, he should be saying that the injection of these kinds of things into healthy humans is dumb.
+
+01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.000
+But he's not saying that.
+
+01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:59.000
+And I need you to see it as clearly as possible. He's not saying that. He's never said that.
+
+01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:04.000
+He's never said that PCR shouldn't be used. He said it could be better.
+
+01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:11.000
+He's never said the RNA is dangerous and transfection should never be done. No, it could be better.
+
+01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:24.000
+It could be made cleaner. Maybe the LNP should have been tested better. Do you see it?
+
+01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:30.000
+I hope you can see it, ladies and gentlemen, that this is a elaborate hoax.
+
+01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:41.000
+We have been led by our noses and people are still being led by their noses to believe that this was just kind of an emergency worst-case scenario.
+
+01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:48.000
+We fumbled the ball a few times. Thankfully, we got it across the finish line. Next time, we'll do it better.
+
+01:04:48.000 --> 01:05:03.000
+And this illusion of consensus has been started with this illusion of consensus about gain of function viruses so that they can mislead our children and invert their freedoms to something of fascism.
+
+01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:18.000
+They did it by lying to us about this biology, this steady biology here in the sky blue and told us a narrative about these little tiny numbers down here.
+
+01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:30.000
+A narrative about a novel virus that everybody was vulnerable to that was detectable from a non-specific PCR test influenced by the fact that you could get a lot of money if you used it.
+
+01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:40.000
+And for a while, in the beginning, you didn't even have to use it and you could get a lot of money if you just said it was COVID and we know that, but none of those people will talk about it.
+
+01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:58.000
+Kevin won't ever say that that's a problem, that the protocols were a problem, that the protocols killed people for two and a half years and we called it COVID because it was handy for the national security state because we wanted to mislead the young
+
+01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:01.000
+because he's part of misleading the young.
+
+01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:08.000
+Wittingly or unwittingly, it's hard for me to believe he's unwittingly involved at this stage.
+
+01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:27.000
+Given that he's never really tried to become a friend, that despite the fact that we've had lots of contact together and been on stream lots of times, it's always been an antagonistic relationship that's friendly when we're on stream and when on Twitter, he's a dick on wheels.
+
+01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:31.000
+It's really extraordinary how these people behave.
+
+01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:43.000
+It's all because they want to sustain this illusion of consensus that I'm trying to break about gain a function virus leak that allowed them to change our minds about what we know about immunology.
+
+01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:50.000
+And once they changed our minds about what we know about immunology, they killed people with hospital protocols and called it COVID.
+
+01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:56.000
+That's what happened, ladies and gentlemen, this illusion of consensus allowed it to happen.
+
+01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:06.000
+And if we don't break this, it will brainwash our children into believing that they too experienced a lab leak in 2020.
+
+01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:15.000
+And that's the reason why they feel more comfortable with a shitty ass mask on their face as a teenager.
+
+01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:24.000
+It was really a conflated background signal, ladies and gentlemen, whether it's a real signal or a fake signal or a combination of planted signal and fake signal and real and fake.
+
+01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:27.000
+It doesn't matter.
+
+01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:32.000
+They've never proved to you that there was no signal in 2019.
+
+01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:39.000
+They never proved to you that there's any difference and they have not acknowledged how many people they killed in hospitals.
+
+01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:44.000
+And so as a conflated background signal, protocols were murdered in transfection is a medicine.
+
+01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:48.000
+It doesn't matter if it was an infectious clone or a transfection or whatever you want to call it.
+
+01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:52.000
+As long as you don't say there were no viruses.
+
+01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:57.000
+Because those people are the worst.
+
+01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:04.000
+I think they are mostly unwittingly thinking that they're doing something right because they're just not clever enough to know.
+
+01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:08.000
+But the ones that know they're just rotten.
+
+01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:14.000
+Absolutely rotten.
+
+01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:17.000
+They lied to us. That's for damn sure.
+
+01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:20.000
+They got lots of other people to lie to us.
+
+01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:27.000
+And they kept those people comfortable as long as they told the lie as long as they didn't cross the faith.
+
+01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:37.000
+And they have lucrative sub-stacks and sell books and make a living just fine and they don't address any of this anymore.
+
+01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:47.000
+The fact that Robert Malone and all these people don't talk about this stuff anymore is all you need to know because they should be repeating it all the time.
+
+01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:50.000
+And you know what's missing from this list?
+
+01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:52.000
+It should be obvious but they're up there.
+
+01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:54.000
+Protocols are murder.
+
+01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:58.000
+And nobody says it anymore.
+
+01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:03.000
+Because there's plan is going perfectly. We've already almost there.
+
+01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.000
+Our rights have almost all been inverted.
+
+01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:10.000
+And the data collection is about to begin.
+
+01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:13.000
+So buckle your seats, seat belts ladies and gentlemen.
+
+01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:20.000
+Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is probably dumb.
+
+01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:23.000
+And I know for sure the transfection is not immunization.
+
+01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:29.000
+The fact that these people won't say that is all you need to know.
+
+01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:34.000
+Stop all transfections in humans. I love you all very much. Thanks for coming.
+
+01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:40.000
+This has been a wonderful, painful stream for me.
+
+01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:48.000
+But I need to use my voice and I don't know I'd make a sit around all day.
+
+01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:52.000
+Thanks for listening and I'll see you guys again tomorrow.
+
+01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:24.000
+Thanks for listening.
+
+01:10:48.000 --> 01:11:13.000
+Thanks for making those clips, Jeff. Thanks, Jeff.
+
+01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:25.000
+Thank you.
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+you satanic live has found over the last three days you've been sleeping under a rock
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+make sure you figure it out cuz it's about to get ugly
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+love what Mark is doing I love it
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+you schedule wait until you see where we're going
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+French British Italian this is over Japanese television it's all over but
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+listen to him it's embarrassing it's all over but the crying ladies and
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+gentlemen kids deserve a lot of credit this town's been flooded with phony
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+twenties for weeks oh it was nothing really but oh mr. Pietro posing as a
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+doorman sure had us fooled for a while he really gave himself away when he put
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+on his little puppet show for us the real hero a Scooby-Doo and by the way
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+where is he oh no look at him like I said before what a ham
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+oh my goodness good afternoon ladies and gentlemen I am so happy to be here
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+today it is October 19th 2023 took a three hour nap this afternoon with a
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+fever and I feel a little better after a shower and I'm here with my friend
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+Joseph Lee and in a few minutes we're gonna rip this in half like a loaf of
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+bread in our hands we're gonna rip this in half we're gonna spread the truth
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+around a little bit share some sandwiches because it's really time they have been
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+misleading the young about immunology and misleading the young about pandemic
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+potential about climate change and about antibodies for too long it's time we
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+learned our history before they erase it to ever remember I hope it's not too
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+choppy hopefully it's just getting started here ladies and gentlemen
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+I'm gonna get a sound check in here in a second I will get Joel right away on
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+screen because you don't need to waste a lot of time
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+there was no spread in New York City that we can detect infectious clones are
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+the only dangerous form of RNA placebo batches were used and transfections
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+dump and the protocols were definitely a murder gain a function it's definitely
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+a mythology and the Scooby-Doo mystery that we've been fooled into solving is
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+still ongoing because these players are committed to the lies and they've ruined
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+a lot of people's lives with these lies Joseph Lee is somebody who put his neck
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+out there real early in 2020 and everybody ignored him even though his
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+biology's turned out to be a hundred percent correct and then some in fact I
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+think that Joseph Lee honed in on some of the best fundamental biology with
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+regard to antibodies and antibodies turned out to be the central story of
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+this whole bamboozlement good evening ladies and gentlemen this is Giga on
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+biological high-resistance low-noise information brief brought to you by a
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+biologist I'm sick I can barely catch my breath I think it's so important that
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+we talk about this while we can that I'm doing it now anyway and because I
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+don't want to waste any chance to talk to Joseph just running quick don't take
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+debate on social media we've been fooled into solving this mystery people are
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+writing books about it and it doesn't matter what's true it matters what
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+people think is true and so if everybody believes there's a gain of function
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+virus that got leaked out 20 in 2020 it doesn't really matter what the truth
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+is and that's especially true for our children it's especially true for
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+non-biologist people that don't have the time to catch up and so a short way of
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+telling them is the transaction is an immunization a longer way of telling
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+them is an intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the
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+intent of augmenting your immune system in general is dumb especially for a
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+respiratory virus and it's this illusion of consensus that has been
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+created by these people on social media that has led us to believe that this is
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+the case and it is this illusion of consensus I'm trying to break through
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+by analyzing very carefully where everybody stood in 2020 and in 2020 my
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+next guest for today showed up pretty darn early in 2020 with some pretty darn
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+fundamental immunology fundamental biology which he wrote up and disseminated
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+it was ignored that guy is this fella I'm gonna bring over here on this on the
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+screen now with my magic movement of zoom here if I can get it up on the no
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+now what I do sorry Joe I just lost my mouse here or something like that I
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+don't know what happened I gotta get up a little higher what oh yeah there we go
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+shoot there he is you're not unmuted though I don't think did I mute you or
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+unmute you or what did I do there we go so it's been a while sir have you
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+made any progress with teaching this basic biology to everyone or is it just
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+more of the same more of the same more of the same with it with a
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+so I don't know where you want to start you should start where you want to start
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+and I'll listen cuz my voice is trash so well I guess so I'll be getting so
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+well the real beginning of your sound is really rough okay that might be a
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+little better yeah maybe you're directional mic so the issue was
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+anyway I realized relative to how
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+and that's because you know when you say a rhino virus
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+so that's why well I know
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+holy shit this is really bad you gotta log out and log in again it's too bad
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+happens if you just go out and come back in
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+darn is that annoying anyway he's coming back let's see if this works
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+well I hear when you start talking let's see if you try it again so basically
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+when you get a cold a rhino virus infected cells it replicates and then it
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+affects other cells so why is it people should have to tell and that's another
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+cell why would that cycle ever stop I don't think if you understand why that
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+cycle stop but maybe that's why everything now clearly there are times
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+where I get a cold and I'm down for three four days then I'm over it and there
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+were there wasn't coming for antibodies to build up so I figured can't be
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+antibody so I said let me think this through and try to figure it out so if
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+I pretend to be a cell and the virus instead one of myself and then the
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+virus replicates so as soon as the virus infects the cell and that RNA
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+inside the cell is the enemy I have to destroy it so that viral RNA or the
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+enemy I must destroy it in this pandemic not one scientist at a theory on how we
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+actually defeated the virus I mean there's all this talk about antibody but in the
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+year 2020 what a million of us and 99% of us survived and no one
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+explained that the biggest gap in our understanding so if you acknowledge that
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+once the COVID virus it's the enemy and what should we do with the enemy we
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+should destroy it what else can we do that viral RNA we shouldn't
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+absolutely help it and it wants to become protein so we cannot actually
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+help it what's the third thing we can do we can tell all of the other ones I
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+want to fight it so when I went back to my desk with this up all the answers
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+one what this voice RNA ribonucleus environment well viral RNA inside our
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+lung cells is RNA now just because something is different
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+something different on paper does that mean that people should I'm not
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+absolutely not so viral RNA is a strand of inflammation it doesn't look much
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+different from our expand of RNA but it's they're all just information and if
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+our ribonucleus enzymes in this way are on why wouldn't it be within the
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+viral RNA it's that so when I think a lot of this out I told my mentor the
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+direct of our project this was the May of 2020 he was shocked it's all I'd be
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+going to talk home I didn't know what it meant like this we kept in touch with
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+their actions October of 2020 I sent my first word about my plane look our
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+lungs for an air pocket our body is 70% water this walk if our lungs barrier
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+can keep water molecules out of our lungs water molecules are clean they
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+weigh 18 dollars COVID antibodies weigh a hundred twenty five thousand dollars
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+there's no way so I sent this letter to every member of Congress I sent just
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+about the email to our people on the email and so eventually Dr. Emily
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+was right under Dr. Frosty be quiet we're having about a month later and he
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+tried to basically dismiss my concern and he said well our clinical data looks
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+really good and I replied with the seventy three people I mean every point
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+point you have other incredible data you think their vaccines work because of a
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+neutralizing antibodies in the lung air space that sounds the virus before the
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+virus that's a lung cell now you really believe that but I still use that
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+antibody has no viable path to the lung surgery it's waiting to death if a
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+watermark do it to the baseball a COVID antibody it looks like it's a car
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+on so there's no password once I explained this I thought it would end
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+they never respond to that one I put a US clock right on and must have sent that
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+word it's thousands of people in my CDC FCO when I would call the CDC director
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+it was it was crazy you know I'm not small just by three by itself and a
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+very nice and polite and it doesn't take me very long to send it 50 I think blood
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+brain barrier you understand blood blood lung barrier it's tight enough to
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+stop our lungs from filling up with water and you think that's called dance
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+when the answer by the boss it's a mistake and you you copied the flu
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+vaccine you assumed that the flu vaccine worked and you copied the flu
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+vaccine because there was nothing else to do that but we're trying to get
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+medically and what's similar well flu and what do we ask for that the flu
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+vaccine from things that don't work we're just saying inside let's make the
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+coin really bad before the same thing about it except the flu vaccine had the
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+same flow it never worked for you to never work to see you have that knee
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+blazing antibody but they thought it did and no one knows about question that
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+why they had a built-in speech but what they're saying changed on it how can
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+you blame hard-working fire when they have a very very busy you have to say
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+okay try our next year that was to believe it wasn't the reason why the
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+flu vaccine was actually horrible results you look up from with the PS1
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+it didn't work because the antibody never makes me so long
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+and that's the same for the code that they have now when we see the director
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+for the story talk the FDA talks to hundreds of people email back and four
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+or five people sales and my own I remember the media director of your
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+he sat there looking to make a point for me and I said you get in front of
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+this because there's nothing you actually did wrong with now what I'm
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+dependent on all the issues but so far so that you know now if you keep wanting
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+to sell this this might be approved I can approve when there is not a single
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+scientist at the FDA explain how the car can antibody cross your own area
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+long fix that you should have you should have a warning label on every
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+vaccine that's not a single FDA scientist understand how this again from
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+antibody cross the one better okay so the FDA with you need to hung up on the
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+application right now so it was incredible to remember people who wouldn't do the
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+right thing so going back to the antibody it can't cross one barrier there is you
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+know is there one second is there any chance you have like headphones with a
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+mic or any other microphone I'm gonna summarize what you said now while you
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+look hold on so what he started with was the cycle of infection and he started
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+with the explanation that the cycle of infection infects one cell and the
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+virus replicates and releases virus and other cells are infected so if you do
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+this cartoon in your head what's to stop this infection from ever stopping
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+why wouldn't it just keep infecting more cells and more cells and more cells the
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+reason why it doesn't is because of innate immunity and the reason why the
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+vast majority of us clear it with four days is because something else happens
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+and antibodies aren't produced in four days and so he started to think what is
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+really going on here and he realized with again very basic biological
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+thinking that the RNA is the enemy of the cell the RNA gets in the cell and
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+does the damage the RNA needs to make proteins the RNA needs to make copies
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+of itself so let's not help but do that let's start autophagy let's let's work
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+with RNA RNA enzymes to get rid of this RNA like we would get rid of any other
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+RNA that we don't need anymore or is for it and perhaps the most important
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+discovery or realization oh my gosh that's so much better what did you do I have
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+another mic oh gosh that's fantastic oh my gosh that's great and so then he gets
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+to the stage where he realizes that a hundred twenty thousand kilo Dalton
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+antibody has no chance of getting across the lung blood barrier on its own and
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+if you look into the way that the immune system functions the only way that a
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+B cell can get to that side of the lungs is with the help of a T cell and that's
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+also requires a lot of link recognition that wouldn't happen under the pretense
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+of a transfection to a single spike protein so that's probably more than we
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+need to talk about there but he ended with saying that the flu vaccine is
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+another similar misaimed therapeutic in the sense of trying to generate
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+seroprevalent antibodies for something that is on the outside of your mucosal
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+layer and the outside of your epithelial cells with no real means of that
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+protein getting there you're essentially telling stories about how the flu
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+vaccine will save old people when in reality it won't and so that's where he
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+left off that's where we are right here and that's indeed basically what he
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+said the last time he was here so now we can get into the new stuff I love your
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+new mic yeah so a couple more things you know when when I wrote the 73 page letter
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+I told Dr. Belling look you gotta really think about this carefully because I'm
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+not saying that you guys are all liars you did the clinical trial and you got
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+great results but you thought those great results were because of the antibody
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+inside the lung airspace I show you there's no way that can happen so then
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+why did you get good results because I don't think you guys you guys are
+
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+lying okay so we need to find another reason because science is always about
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+how does it work well you thought it worked via a neutralizing antibody it
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+clearly works because you're not all liars so how did it work okay so the
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+COVID vaccine when you get it gives you muscle aches why because it tricks
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+your body into making chemokines including interferon the very well
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+known fact in every review study they say this okay so interferon is
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+antiviral including anti-covid it's antiviral in a million papers so if
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+your side effect is a reason why your vaccine had such great results look look
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+at the scenario the J&J vaccine had 50% efficacy oh you only trick your body
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+one time into making interferon AstraZeneca had a 75 to 80% success well
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+because it's it's two shots two times you trick your body into making interferon
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+now the mRNA is a very strong adjuvant it may it tricks your body to making a
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+lot of interferon but then it becomes COVID spike antigen and that tricks your
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+body again it's like getting a second shot so twice you trick your body but
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+remember they they started with it with two two shots the main one in the
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+booster so you get the booster the mRNA again tricks your body into making
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+interferon and then the booster becomes at so four times you trick your body
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+into making interferon in a five or six month study so why did you get great
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+results you got great results because of the side effect of the vaccine which
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+meant that the vaccine was acting as a pro drug which means that it's a
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+medicine which means that in science we don't give medicines when somebody
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+doesn't have the disease because the risk-benefit ratio never works out now I
+
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+explained all this to them in 73 pages in February of 2021 so I was far
+
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+advanced because you have to think like a scientist you have to explain how
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+things work if you don't know how something works you can't just say we
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+have great data because rain dancers had amazing data but you're the rain
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+dance then it rains they had a hundred percent efficacy so data is meaningless
+
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+in science without a hypothesis starts with the hypotheses if you don't have a
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+hypotheses your science is infinitely weaker than my science if I have less
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+data but a better hypotheses my science is better that's just the way science
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+works so when I explain all this to me of course it made complete sense I knew
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+it was important and I try to get it out to everyone no one would listen the
+
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+everyone was scared I don't I don't know if they were scared or if they were all
+
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+in on it or if they were all had an incredible number of stock options in
+
+24:43.880 --> 24:48.400
+Moderna and Pfizer and they all were just waiting to make money I have no idea but
+
+24:48.400 --> 24:54.080
+I know the FDA was behaving in a very corrupt manner and you know I got all
+
+24:54.080 --> 24:58.120
+this to their even their chief legal counsel so I had back and forth back and
+
+24:58.120 --> 25:03.960
+forth with so many people they are on the hook now the prep act says if
+
+25:03.960 --> 25:07.900
+organization the prep act gives organizations working with vaccines
+
+25:07.900 --> 25:13.040
+legal immunity but there is an exception that will form its conduct now they're
+
+25:13.040 --> 25:22.760
+all open for potential lawsuits because you you may negated your legal
+
+25:22.760 --> 25:29.360
+immunity by Wolf Ole Miss conduct and clearly people have severe side effects
+
+25:29.360 --> 25:34.140
+okay so that was all that holding now see if anyone wants to say well the
+
+25:34.140 --> 25:40.340
+antibody was really important I the ultimate argument is look at 2020 how
+
+25:40.340 --> 25:45.500
+many people in the year 2020 had a COVID-19 antibody there's only two ways
+
+25:45.500 --> 25:51.260
+to get it the illness or the vaccine the vaccine didn't exist in 20 way so it
+
+25:51.260 --> 25:58.620
+was the illness but no one had it so then no one had a COVID-19 antibody and yet
+
+25:58.620 --> 26:05.220
+20 million of us got it look at Tom Hanks seven years of no training of any
+
+26:05.220 --> 26:11.020
+kind for COVID-19 he gets it and shakes off in seven to ten days like a
+
+26:11.020 --> 26:18.220
+bad cold the COVID vaccine supposedly is amazing but that amazing training is
+
+26:18.220 --> 26:24.220
+all gone in one year and you'd be retrained meaning any argument for an
+
+26:24.220 --> 26:31.340
+antibody my ultimate argument back to them is the COVID-19 antibody didn't
+
+26:31.340 --> 26:41.740
+exist in the year 2020 and yet how do we heal so ribonuclease enzymes I have a
+
+26:41.740 --> 26:46.740
+five million one million five million ten dollar bet this is what I say in the
+
+26:46.740 --> 26:55.260
+year 2020 the RNase enzyme destroyed more viral COVID viral mRNA within our
+
+26:55.260 --> 27:02.460
+lung cells than any other molecule and no one will take me up on the bed see in
+
+27:02.460 --> 27:07.100
+science you have to have my hypotheses we did heal 20 million of us
+
+27:07.100 --> 27:14.500
+19 million of us healed under 45 99.9% of us healed how did we heal because see
+
+27:14.500 --> 27:21.020
+I'm a surgeon and if my assistant is brand new and she doesn't know what I'm
+
+27:21.020 --> 27:26.260
+doing she's not very helpful she doesn't know what my goals are she
+
+27:26.260 --> 27:30.900
+doesn't know what my next step is if she just keeps handing me a scalpel she's
+
+27:30.900 --> 27:35.220
+not very helpful now if I have an assistant who's done thousands of cases
+
+27:35.220 --> 27:39.220
+with me they anticipate my next move they know what I'm gonna do next and
+
+27:39.220 --> 27:47.580
+they're very useful and they help me a lot so if you don't know what the human
+
+27:47.580 --> 27:52.940
+body did to help us overcome COVID in the year 2020 and it didn't use a
+
+27:52.940 --> 27:59.420
+COVID antibody if you don't know what it did you can't say you're helping it and
+
+27:59.420 --> 28:06.060
+for absolute certainty the human body did not use a COVID-19 antibody which did
+
+28:06.060 --> 28:16.940
+not exist so RNase so my hypotheses is that the viral RNA inside our lung cells
+
+28:16.940 --> 28:22.980
+in the year 2020 that was the enemy and RNase is amazingly efficient at
+
+28:22.980 --> 28:30.020
+destroying RNA and RNase can destroy our RNA can destroy viral RNA can destroy
+
+28:30.020 --> 28:34.460
+vaccine RNA it's just sheets of paper it really doesn't matter what you print on
+
+28:34.460 --> 28:38.980
+it you can print the Empire State Building design on a piece of paper and
+
+28:38.980 --> 28:44.860
+the paper structure can handle it so RNA viral RNA is just like that it's just
+
+28:44.860 --> 28:52.540
+long strands of information GCAU and you can handle that but the RNase can
+
+28:52.540 --> 28:57.100
+handle that now the RNase is incredibly efficient and it destroys it's very
+
+28:57.100 --> 29:02.060
+very powerful and efficient at destroying RNA so it has an inhibitor bound to it
+
+29:02.060 --> 29:06.900
+because we would never be able to grow we our cells could never replicate and
+
+29:06.900 --> 29:12.100
+divide if the cells weren't growing well if you don't have our RNA and we're not
+
+29:12.140 --> 29:18.980
+making protein we can't grow so RNase has to be inhibited so it has a very
+
+29:18.980 --> 29:23.500
+strong inhibitor on there that's the most tightly bound two molecules that we
+
+29:23.500 --> 29:29.100
+know in nature in biological chemistry there's no molecule that is better
+
+29:29.100 --> 29:33.340
+studied than the RNase enzyme that's how well it's been studied there are
+
+29:33.340 --> 29:39.500
+thousands of papers on it we also know that the inhibitor comes off when it's
+
+29:39.500 --> 29:46.660
+oxidized so see in our evolution there were times when we didn't have food for
+
+29:46.660 --> 29:52.340
+days even weeks we didn't just die imagine if I live a hundred thousand
+
+29:52.340 --> 29:57.940
+years ago and my buddy gets a thousand calories for the we don't have a lot of
+
+29:57.940 --> 30:03.220
+food I have a thousand calories we don't have a lot of food he uses half his food
+
+30:03.220 --> 30:08.300
+to grow his cells and the other half to move and find food I don't grow it all
+
+30:08.300 --> 30:13.260
+I use her thousand calories I use a hundred percent to move so I can find
+
+30:13.260 --> 30:21.100
+food who's going to win I will win because I like to say that I will win
+
+30:21.100 --> 30:28.900
+because I'm using all my calories to move and I'm controlling my growth so we
+
+30:28.900 --> 30:32.940
+have an amazingly efficient way to tell ourselves you better not grow when there
+
+30:32.940 --> 30:40.500
+aren't resources 70% of a dry weight of a cell is protein if you don't have
+
+30:40.500 --> 30:46.260
+mRNA you can't make protein your cell will not undergo mitosis so that
+
+30:46.260 --> 30:52.220
+identical system that we've evolved with and we've had since we were that
+
+30:52.220 --> 31:00.980
+primordial one cell that came out of that ooze bacteria do it every DNA cell
+
+31:00.980 --> 31:05.700
+on earth controls its growth because when there aren't resources you should
+
+31:05.700 --> 31:11.900
+control your growth and you know ourselves when we're hungry they don't
+
+31:11.900 --> 31:17.180
+just start hoarding glucose because the brain needs glucose they don't just try
+
+31:17.180 --> 31:22.180
+to quickly grow they don't do that what they do is that they all uniformly say
+
+31:22.180 --> 31:26.500
+let's all slow down because that's the only way this organism will survive and
+
+31:26.980 --> 31:32.140
+the master way we control our growth is to stop protein production there's
+
+31:32.140 --> 31:36.100
+many ways to do this there's short-term ways long-term ways all sorts of
+
+31:36.100 --> 31:44.980
+enzymes and inhibitors but reduced eliminate RNA is an amazing way and that
+
+31:44.980 --> 31:50.060
+kicks in and so this is what I found when you're fasting your reactive oxygen
+
+31:50.060 --> 31:58.860
+substrates go up it's like a wisdom too much wood not enough air less wood more
+
+31:58.860 --> 32:04.100
+air inside ourselves less glucose you have more oxygen more oxygen
+
+32:04.100 --> 32:09.260
+substrates oxidized the inhibitor the inhibitor comes off and it's right there
+
+32:09.260 --> 32:15.380
+on the ready it doesn't take a month to get peak values like the antibody oh
+
+32:15.380 --> 32:19.220
+you're you know you're sick with the virus you're gonna wait a month for the
+
+32:19.220 --> 32:24.540
+stupid antibody to show up our RNA's are right there on the ready all you
+
+32:24.540 --> 32:30.220
+have to do stop eating your pizza so it felt you ever get sick send him a pizza
+
+32:30.220 --> 32:33.860
+everyone send him a pizza encourage him to eat find his favorite pizza give it to
+
+32:33.860 --> 32:40.500
+him because it'll kill him I'm not proposing violence I'm just saying that
+
+32:40.500 --> 32:44.860
+they always want peer-reviewed studies from me well near England General
+
+32:44.900 --> 32:49.260
+medicine chief editor was arguing with me non-stop who's going to publish anything
+
+32:49.260 --> 32:56.340
+I have to say so here's my here's my here's my here's my retrospective clinical
+
+32:56.340 --> 33:03.180
+trial a trillion mammals in the past million years whenever they get sick the
+
+33:03.180 --> 33:09.580
+young ones they get fussy and they don't eat and if you're a parent you know this
+
+33:09.580 --> 33:13.980
+to be true and if you're an animal lover you know your dog does the same thing
+
+33:14.620 --> 33:23.260
+but humans we really got fussy with our food we make amazing food we didn't
+
+33:23.260 --> 33:26.860
+have this a hundred thousand years ago evolution can't catch up that quickly
+
+33:26.860 --> 33:31.940
+it can't say oh I think I'm going to anticipate this amazing spaghetti
+
+33:31.940 --> 33:35.940
+factory and I'm going to make this desire not to even stronger it can't do
+
+33:35.940 --> 33:41.180
+that but our toddlers all listen to their body and look at who was really sick who
+
+33:41.180 --> 33:47.980
+was really sick during the pandemic the obese why were women less sick because
+
+33:47.980 --> 33:53.100
+they were often dieting if you're dieting you have more active RNA
+
+33:53.100 --> 33:58.100
+enzymes and you're you could more quickly activate those than somebody
+
+33:58.100 --> 34:01.100
+who's been eating a lot because when there's all these resources in your body
+
+34:01.100 --> 34:04.300
+you can't trick yourselves I'm saying there's no glucose when they see glucose
+
+34:04.300 --> 34:09.740
+floating all around them you have three big meals and you catch COVID you're
+
+34:09.740 --> 34:17.860
+more likely to die and this also explains the elderly so my theory on
+
+34:17.860 --> 34:23.540
+why the elderly are at increased risk of death obviously their lung lung function
+
+34:23.540 --> 34:30.980
+is diminished but it's not diminished by 80% so why are the elderly at higher risk
+
+34:30.980 --> 34:35.900
+because they're dramatically at high risk well you know I was explaining RNA RNA
+
+34:35.900 --> 34:42.980
+is incredibly simply recycled it's just a strip it's like paper you recycle it
+
+34:42.980 --> 34:47.180
+perfectly inside the cell there's no leftover RNA oh we haven't been able to
+
+34:47.180 --> 34:53.020
+get this one proteins are different every protein looks different and the
+
+34:53.020 --> 34:57.860
+process of recycling proteins is a lot more complicated inside is efficient so
+
+34:57.860 --> 35:02.060
+you're going to have defunct proteins and they're just floating around in the
+
+35:02.420 --> 35:09.660
+cell as you get older and they all have oxidizable groups so when you stop
+
+35:09.660 --> 35:14.020
+eating it takes a lot longer for the right one nucleus inhibitor to be
+
+35:14.020 --> 35:18.060
+oxidized because you can get through all the other proteins first there's a big
+
+35:18.060 --> 35:22.860
+buffer in there so that's why when you're when you're older you should never eat
+
+35:22.860 --> 35:27.180
+two big meals you should always have small meals because you want to be
+
+35:27.180 --> 35:32.940
+ready to be able to fast when you get a sore throat now if you've had you know
+
+35:32.940 --> 35:36.620
+if you've been quarantined for three days and then you get exposed to COVID you
+
+35:36.620 --> 35:43.220
+may very well die so see how my current paradigm explains a lot more than
+
+35:43.220 --> 35:46.500
+their stupid antibody I can't believe I have to explain this over and over
+
+35:46.500 --> 35:51.860
+scientists the COVID antibody wasn't even there in the year 2020 shows up a
+
+35:51.860 --> 35:58.540
+month late they say well get through via trans cytosis trans cytosis every
+
+35:58.540 --> 36:04.220
+study they ever done on trans cytosis it's a lab model you know you look at the
+
+36:04.220 --> 36:08.260
+alveolus the capillary the size of the capillary there's 7,000 nanometer
+
+36:08.260 --> 36:14.100
+diameter red blood cells zipping around the alveolus and the antibodies 10
+
+36:14.100 --> 36:18.500
+nanometers and it's gonna stick to the sidewall and not get bumped off by these
+
+36:18.500 --> 36:24.020
+zipping anti red blood cells they're dreaming trans cytosis in some
+
+36:24.020 --> 36:31.300
+trans well model in the lab BS okay it's just a diagram little thing trans cytosis
+
+36:31.300 --> 36:36.060
+is almost always referred to in reverse from the lung airspace back into the
+
+36:36.060 --> 36:40.020
+bloodstream and it's a little bit more quiet on the other side is it possible
+
+36:40.020 --> 36:45.340
+yes I don't believe it because clearly we make antibodies so easily why do we
+
+36:45.340 --> 36:50.500
+have to recycle a few that are left and you it's just they're everything about
+
+36:50.500 --> 36:56.860
+the vaccines and antibodies and viruses the reason why I was able to find so
+
+36:56.860 --> 37:03.140
+many things they're wrong about their basic premise anti-plies aren't useful
+
+37:03.140 --> 37:08.140
+against in our fight against viruses what why am I single-handedly able to find
+
+37:08.140 --> 37:13.400
+so much crap because their whole premise is wrong you know you go back to
+
+37:13.400 --> 37:21.080
+Edward Jenner the first immunization he gave them the little boy cowpox and
+
+37:21.080 --> 37:23.880
+then a couple months later he gave the voice smallpox and he said wow the
+
+37:23.880 --> 37:32.440
+kids okay I don't know what stupid parent agreed to that but the cowpox and
+
+37:32.440 --> 37:37.280
+smallpox sound the same but we all know immunize if you're immune to cowpox
+
+37:37.280 --> 37:41.080
+you're not immune smallpox the viruses on the surface are completely utterly
+
+37:41.080 --> 37:49.040
+different so Edward Jenner had an end of one that was only only patient I ever
+
+37:49.040 --> 37:53.680
+have heard of that somebody thought an immunologist thought this person is
+
+37:53.680 --> 37:58.520
+immune well how do you really know if this person is immune you give them the
+
+37:58.520 --> 38:04.120
+virus okay this person is immune to smallpox you can give them the virus
+
+38:04.120 --> 38:10.080
+they've never done it again that I know of in a clinical trial why because
+
+38:10.080 --> 38:16.160
+clearly that is unethical okay that's your limitation though so science just
+
+38:16.160 --> 38:18.760
+because it's an ethical doesn't mean you can automatically assume the other part
+
+38:18.760 --> 38:24.520
+of the site is correct so that being unethical an end of one where they've
+
+38:24.520 --> 38:28.280
+actually inoculated a person with a virus that supposedly they were immune to
+
+38:28.280 --> 38:33.440
+end of one and look how easily I destroyed that cowpox smallpox I'm not
+
+38:33.440 --> 38:37.280
+thinking he wasn't even immune he could have lied you know if somebody says oh
+
+38:37.320 --> 38:41.680
+right I've achieved fusion in the lab how many people try to debunk him and it
+
+38:41.680 --> 38:45.760
+was never repeated that end of one and they ran with it and they used it and
+
+38:45.760 --> 38:53.480
+they forever said look vaccination works this person's immune okay have you ever
+
+38:53.480 --> 38:58.480
+seen smallpox have you ever seen the horrible agents if you're a 20 year
+
+38:58.480 --> 39:04.280
+woman and you get smallpox that might be the end of your life you may never
+
+39:04.280 --> 39:09.080
+have children never get married because your perfect skin now it's just a mess
+
+39:09.080 --> 39:13.280
+deep craters during the learning the August it's horrible you've got a huge
+
+39:13.280 --> 39:16.520
+elevated red thing that you just look in the mirror and you just want to kill
+
+39:16.520 --> 39:26.200
+yourself and then after the scars are forever all over and you think this
+
+39:26.200 --> 39:33.440
+person is going to ever get near another smallpox patient I can
+
+39:33.800 --> 39:41.080
+the memory is in the brain so how did they how did they can believe that this
+
+39:41.080 --> 39:47.840
+person who had smallpox had lifelong immunity well the lifelong memory is in
+
+39:47.840 --> 39:51.960
+the brain and that person is never going to get near another smallpox
+
+39:51.960 --> 39:57.640
+patient again and we all know that smallpox is not nearly as transmissible as
+
+39:57.640 --> 40:01.920
+COVID you have to have significantly more face-to-face time to get smallpox
+
+40:01.920 --> 40:07.560
+than to get COVID so that person's not gonna stay near that for a patient he's
+
+40:07.560 --> 40:11.280
+gonna run five miles away that's where the memory is and then they want to say
+
+40:11.280 --> 40:19.600
+okay so how come you have antibodies then look hepatitis B we we have
+
+40:19.600 --> 40:25.520
+antibodies that doesn't mean we have immunity to it it usually means we have
+
+40:25.520 --> 40:33.480
+hepatitis B HIV we have antibodies to HIV that doesn't mean at all that we're
+
+40:33.480 --> 40:39.840
+immune to HIV that just means we're sick isn't it very possible that smallpox
+
+40:39.840 --> 40:47.840
+some of the DNA genes stayed in some cell and those cells keep producing the
+
+40:47.840 --> 40:52.240
+surface antigen but aren't capable of producing the complete virus that's what
+
+40:52.240 --> 40:56.240
+happens with hepatitis B the liver cells create infinitely more
+
+40:56.240 --> 41:01.600
+hepatitis B surface antigen than an intact virus we actually measure how
+
+41:01.600 --> 41:05.560
+somebody's doing by how much hepatitis B surface antigen they they produce their
+
+41:05.560 --> 41:13.160
+blood so why can't another virus also only produce their surface antigen then
+
+41:13.160 --> 41:18.000
+you would form antibodies okay see I have another perfectly excellent theory
+
+41:18.000 --> 41:25.720
+hypotheses on why smallpox antibodies are there ten years later it is not for
+
+41:25.720 --> 41:30.400
+everyone very few people but every time you read their papers they're always
+
+41:30.400 --> 41:35.760
+talking about lifelong immunity and they point to the antibody as proof I point
+
+41:35.760 --> 41:40.400
+to the brain that woman's brain is never gonna get near to smallpox patients but
+
+41:40.400 --> 41:46.320
+everything that these people did they had what I call a false positive in size
+
+41:46.320 --> 41:52.160
+you want to connect the cause to the effect you know a person with smallpox
+
+41:52.160 --> 41:56.440
+never get smallpox again that's a good effect they thought it was the antibody
+
+41:56.440 --> 42:02.640
+maybe it was just the brain that can go on and on about this so you have to
+
+42:02.640 --> 42:05.880
+redirect me because you know I'll go too deep people understand what I'm saying
+
+42:05.880 --> 42:11.560
+well let me just reflect on the smallpox thing for a second so Jenner did have
+
+42:11.560 --> 42:16.240
+the example of milkmaids who supposedly didn't get correct and that was
+
+42:16.240 --> 42:21.520
+what he what he was thinking up the the other thing to notice there is that
+
+42:21.520 --> 42:27.160
+variolation for smallpox was done at the barrier of the skin which I would
+
+42:27.160 --> 42:30.680
+argue is not such a bad way to try to augment the immune system if you're
+
+42:30.680 --> 42:34.360
+gonna do it you should at least do it at a barrier so they weren't injecting
+
+42:34.360 --> 42:42.800
+intramuscularly so if they were able to build some immunity with that type of
+
+42:42.800 --> 42:46.800
+immunization it would have been because they were augmenting the immune system
+
+42:46.800 --> 42:50.200
+at the barrier that it works at rather than trying to inject intramuscularly
+
+42:50.200 --> 42:57.200
+which is what we do now so I like the idea of the production of antibodies
+
+42:57.200 --> 43:03.920
+equaling the the health status of the animal I also like what you said about
+
+43:03.920 --> 43:08.200
+the fact that during a hepatitis infection we're looking at surface
+
+43:08.200 --> 43:13.640
+antigen expression as indication of infection there's a few other examples
+
+43:13.640 --> 43:21.280
+of where antibodies are tuned specifically to toxins in circulation don't we make
+
+43:21.280 --> 43:27.760
+antibodies to the tuberculosis talk tetanus toxin excuse me and so I'm just
+
+43:27.760 --> 43:33.680
+wondering I think you've proven beyond a shadow of adult that we have that we
+
+43:33.680 --> 43:38.040
+have been bamboozled into believing that antibodies are the primary way that we
+
+43:38.040 --> 43:42.480
+defend our body and that's I mean you said this last time you said that
+
+43:42.480 --> 43:50.360
+antibodies were tagged and what I am saying is this humans are smartest
+
+43:50.360 --> 43:55.840
+humans have never made a medication against the bacteria that works against
+
+43:55.840 --> 44:02.920
+the virus because they're utterly different enemies we don't call our
+
+44:02.920 --> 44:11.480
+police for rats so if in fact the antibody is very useful against
+
+44:11.480 --> 44:20.320
+extracellular pathogens like bacteria why would it work against the virus now
+
+44:20.320 --> 44:26.240
+see this is a scenario I'm painting antibodies are very useful against bacteria
+
+44:27.080 --> 44:34.680
+so it ramps up antibodies wrap up kind of like the way bacteria ramps up in
+
+44:34.680 --> 44:41.400
+our body a few weeks evolution doesn't get things this wrong viruses in two
+
+44:41.400 --> 44:47.120
+three days you can be once all a virus and die so everyone knows you get
+
+44:47.120 --> 44:50.840
+exposed to a virus at a party and so my sick and a couple days later you're
+
+44:50.840 --> 44:56.400
+feeling sick the rate of replication for virus is so extremely ridiculously
+
+44:56.400 --> 45:03.560
+crazy that if they were really necessary evolution would have figured it out and
+
+45:03.560 --> 45:11.880
+got it correct so a B lymphocyte is faced with an enemy a pathogen comes
+
+45:11.880 --> 45:18.140
+towards it this B lymphocyte is not going to try to figure out if it's a
+
+45:18.140 --> 45:27.220
+bacteria or a virus it's just gonna pump out antibodies because it's very
+
+45:27.220 --> 45:35.300
+useful against bacteria how do you know it's useful against a virus now if you
+
+45:35.300 --> 45:38.900
+can imagine a scenario where this B lymphocyte figures out what is a virus
+
+45:38.900 --> 45:43.980
+and what is a bacteria and it was an easy way to do it this bacteria this B
+
+45:44.180 --> 45:48.700
+lymphocyte does make antibodies which they got it guys guys I have this new
+
+45:48.700 --> 45:53.100
+mechanism you're a bacteria so I'm gonna keep make antibodies lots of them but
+
+45:53.100 --> 46:01.020
+your virus so I can just rest but there is no way to do that we can barely do
+
+46:01.020 --> 46:07.100
+that with our labs and this one little cell is you're never going to figure
+
+46:07.100 --> 46:12.980
+out a way for this one cell to figure that out and if you can't imagine a
+
+46:12.980 --> 46:21.100
+scenario evolution can't do it so this is every antibody that we have in our
+
+46:21.100 --> 46:28.460
+body are you going to automatically assume it's good because we do have
+
+46:28.460 --> 46:32.820
+antibodies against our joints does anyone think that's good no that's
+
+46:32.820 --> 46:38.580
+rheumatoid arthritis so we do have antibodies against the strep
+
+46:38.580 --> 46:47.540
+bacteria and those antibodies cause rheumatic fever because it bound to the
+
+46:47.540 --> 46:53.500
+heart valve and destroyed it and that one single antibody was a number one
+
+46:53.500 --> 47:01.660
+killer for children under the age of 20 in the early 19th century so you can't
+
+47:01.740 --> 47:09.740
+assume just because you found an antibody that is helpful at all you can't assume
+
+47:09.740 --> 47:15.580
+that but that's the assumption they made look you get a patient with HIV you have
+
+47:15.580 --> 47:21.100
+antibodies to it why didn't it help them oh because it's a really serious virus
+
+47:21.100 --> 47:25.780
+oh so the antibodies only work against the really easy viruses that we handle
+
+47:25.780 --> 47:32.980
+really easily are you sure then it's not a false positive it's a false positive
+
+47:32.980 --> 47:37.300
+because you know when I think the way I think is I always take things to the
+
+47:37.300 --> 47:41.940
+extreme and in the process of taking things to extreme the picture becomes
+
+47:41.940 --> 47:48.940
+more clear so one of the ways I do it is okay here's a five kilogram bone the
+
+47:48.940 --> 47:55.180
+six kilogram ball and it's going down a slant in kind of 30 degrees 10 feet
+
+47:56.940 --> 48:02.380
+which ball gets to the bottom faster and what I do in my mind is this I make the
+
+48:02.380 --> 48:07.580
+bigger ball six kilogram I make it a thousand kilograms and I make the five
+
+48:07.580 --> 48:12.860
+kilogram of the small one I make it a BB what happens when you let a BB go you
+
+48:12.860 --> 48:19.340
+can start zipping down what happens when you let this thousand kilogram
+
+48:19.340 --> 48:23.420
+ball that's 50 feet wide what happens when you release it you know it's not
+
+48:23.420 --> 48:29.500
+gonna start going there's inertia and immediately I have the answer I don't
+
+48:29.500 --> 48:36.060
+even have to do math now if the incline is 10 miles long the big one will win the
+
+48:36.060 --> 48:40.460
+BB has a maximum speed of four miles per hour and the big one get the maximum
+
+48:40.460 --> 48:44.220
+speed of 200 miles per hour so if it's a long incline the big one will win but
+
+48:44.220 --> 48:49.260
+see it's always good to stretch out the question because when you stretch out
+
+48:49.260 --> 48:57.980
+the question the answer manifests so let's take two scenarios a person that
+
+48:57.980 --> 49:04.020
+has no ribonucleus enzymes and no method to destroy the viruses like
+
+49:04.020 --> 49:13.140
+the cell and a person who has no covid antibodies and no way to block the
+
+49:13.140 --> 49:18.540
+virus from getting inside the cell I have two extreme scenarios oh but I don't
+
+49:18.540 --> 49:25.820
+even need a hypothetical for this one Tom Hanks had no covid antibodies and no
+
+49:25.820 --> 49:29.300
+training of any kind for seven years for any kind of covid virus covid 19
+
+49:29.340 --> 49:36.220
+virus and he got better in 10 days perfect example the other side plenty
+
+49:36.220 --> 49:44.220
+of antibodies but nothing inside the cell to destroy the viral RNA now each
+
+49:44.220 --> 49:51.260
+infected cell so you've got an occupation dose of 100 viruses the
+
+49:51.260 --> 49:58.220
+antibodies are really good they blocked 99 percent one gets in 99 percent is
+
+49:58.220 --> 50:05.580
+amazing kill rate one gets in no way to destroy it once it got in now there's
+
+50:05.580 --> 50:13.020
+50,000 copies those 50,000 all come out and you're again really good you blocked
+
+50:13.020 --> 50:19.700
+99 percent well you have 500 now you started with 100 now you have 500 you
+
+50:19.700 --> 50:26.380
+can do the math and it gets explosive so you see when you take things to the
+
+50:26.380 --> 50:32.900
+extreme everything starts to clear up in your mind to believe that an antibody
+
+50:32.900 --> 50:38.140
+was useful we have the biggest experiment in the history of medicine 20 million
+
+50:38.140 --> 50:42.700
+Americans got covid in the year 2020 and not a single one had a covid 19
+
+50:42.700 --> 50:48.820
+antibody there was that's the biggest experiment all their stupid peer
+
+50:48.820 --> 50:54.260
+reviewed papers over the past three and a half years they were using a wrong
+
+50:54.260 --> 51:00.900
+worldview paradigm and they got all the answers wrong and you know paradigm
+
+51:00.900 --> 51:04.300
+medicine don't occur very often there will probably be and there will probably
+
+51:04.300 --> 51:11.460
+never be another one this big in anyone's lifetime because false positives are
+
+51:11.460 --> 51:16.500
+what happened when you have too many false positives and you hold on to that
+
+51:16.500 --> 51:20.580
+false positive like the rain dancers they had great data every time they did
+
+51:20.580 --> 51:26.700
+rain dance it rained they had great data but they had no hypotheses connecting
+
+51:26.700 --> 51:34.580
+the rain dance to the rain so that's always what happens in science whenever
+
+51:34.580 --> 51:42.780
+you have the cause and it's too far from the effect bizarreness results like when
+
+51:42.780 --> 51:48.660
+I press my gas pedal my car starts going in a second that's a very short
+
+51:48.660 --> 51:53.660
+amount of time there's not room for a false positive to insert itself and take
+
+51:53.660 --> 51:57.540
+credit for that it was my foot that pressed on the gas pedal that made my
+
+51:57.540 --> 52:02.820
+car go but whenever the time between cause and effect is prolonged just like
+
+52:02.820 --> 52:09.060
+rain dance to rain six months oh with a vaccine the vaccine the effect is what
+
+52:09.060 --> 52:13.860
+first it was you and get sick then they move the goal post are you and get
+
+52:13.860 --> 52:19.060
+severely sick now they're not even sure what to say so you don't even know what
+
+52:19.060 --> 52:26.380
+the effect was but what you don't have any science you know oh but you did catch
+
+52:26.380 --> 52:30.420
+one virus and so this is my thing you live on a farmhouse with a hundred
+
+52:30.420 --> 52:38.700
+cats and you never see mice you put out one mousetrap you catch one mouse and
+
+52:38.700 --> 52:44.620
+you're certain that that mousetrap is a reason why you don't have mice what about
+
+52:44.620 --> 52:51.380
+the hundred cats they were eating mice hundred eight why can't it be that it is
+
+52:51.380 --> 52:56.780
+that so this false positive with vaccines and antibodies against viruses
+
+52:56.780 --> 53:01.860
+was extremely tricky because they actually caught they actually stuck the
+
+53:01.860 --> 53:06.980
+antibody on the virus and it stuck but remember that happens with HIV it
+
+53:06.980 --> 53:10.700
+happens with all sorts of viruses and stuff like this E we V and it doesn't
+
+53:10.700 --> 53:15.500
+help you picked all the easy viruses that we had a very well and then you got
+
+53:15.500 --> 53:19.180
+right in front of it like the rain dancers hmm and then you thought it was
+
+53:19.180 --> 53:26.380
+you it was never you and that's why there's 20 million infected Americans in
+
+53:26.380 --> 53:30.940
+your 20 20 that's why it's the biggest study in the history of earth because
+
+53:30.940 --> 53:38.700
+we're 99.99% confident none of them had a COVID-19 antibody and yet they yield so
+
+53:38.700 --> 53:41.660
+there are a couple other things you can add to this when you talk to other people
+
+53:41.660 --> 53:47.100
+the first one is is that mice without B cells can get rid of SARS viruses that
+
+53:47.100 --> 53:53.340
+that's been done 10 years amazing see and also there were there were patients in
+
+53:53.380 --> 54:00.140
+Italy that had no B cells that survived COVID as well so you're right about that
+
+54:00.140 --> 54:04.780
+the one thing that I'm I want you to take to an extreme is have you ever
+
+54:04.780 --> 54:10.740
+measured imagine the possibility that that previous respiratory diseases have
+
+54:10.740 --> 54:17.140
+been have been balled up into something that they're calling a novel virus but
+
+54:17.140 --> 54:24.580
+it's actually not novel what I always do whenever they say that and this is
+
+54:24.580 --> 54:29.020
+incredible to me how many times I forget but whenever they make that argument I
+
+54:29.020 --> 54:35.580
+say okay but there was a first time for that person that person there was the
+
+54:35.580 --> 54:42.540
+first time when he got a viral infection with no antibodies right because the
+
+54:42.540 --> 54:46.180
+only way you make antibodies is with the vaccine none of existence so the only
+
+54:46.220 --> 54:50.940
+other way is with an infection but there was a time when you got an infection
+
+54:50.940 --> 54:54.100
+when you didn't have antibodies for that infection there was always the first
+
+54:54.100 --> 55:00.420
+right you keep going back if you keep going back at some point okay so somebody
+
+55:00.420 --> 55:06.780
+says that 2019 they had coronaviruses and somebody had coronavirus
+
+55:06.780 --> 55:14.260
+like how did he get the antibody he had the infection and he had to wait a few
+
+55:14.260 --> 55:19.740
+weeks but he resolved the infection in a week so there's always a first time
+
+55:19.740 --> 55:25.900
+when you didn't have antibodies we still resolved right no I agree I'm just I
+
+55:25.900 --> 55:30.580
+guess I'm getting at more the idea that what you were saying and have said be
+
+55:30.580 --> 55:38.300
+fed in the past is that a a foreign RNA is kind of a similar target it doesn't
+
+55:38.300 --> 55:44.180
+really matter what what type of virus it is flu virus coronavirus a rhino virus
+
+55:44.620 --> 55:49.500
+it's a foreign RNA molecule that's trying to replicate against your will and
+
+55:49.500 --> 55:56.700
+you have to get rid of it so my question is and I think that I'm I'm sort of here
+
+55:56.700 --> 56:03.460
+is that I think that a lot of these mechanisms molecular mechanisms be it
+
+56:03.460 --> 56:07.900
+natural killer cells T cells B cells antibodies I don't care what molecular
+
+56:07.900 --> 56:12.700
+mechanism you're talking about memorizing these these insults and these
+
+56:12.700 --> 56:19.020
+foreign signals by the time you're I don't know what by the time you're not
+
+56:19.020 --> 56:23.780
+breastfeeding anymore my guess is that you already have a pretty good set of
+
+56:23.780 --> 56:30.700
+cellular defenses against general RNA infection and so for me but but then how
+
+56:30.700 --> 56:34.180
+did they get that how did they get that by an infection where they didn't have
+
+56:34.180 --> 56:37.700
+the antibody yeah but you don't need antibodies we've already decided that
+
+56:37.700 --> 56:43.260
+anybody's are bullshit like anybody's exactly anybody's are anybody's are a
+
+56:43.260 --> 56:49.100
+specific flavor of candy in a box that we don't rarely we rarely open we only
+
+56:49.100 --> 56:53.860
+open that box of candy for certain for certain parties the reason why I'm saying
+
+56:53.860 --> 56:58.100
+you know there's two kinds of memory there's the only molecule that we know
+
+56:58.100 --> 57:03.220
+has any kind of memory is the antibody interferon cannot be considered memory
+
+57:03.540 --> 57:08.980
+because they're always the same thing and and then so far as the cells are
+
+57:08.980 --> 57:13.820
+concerned the only cells that we know that have memory like this be in T T
+
+57:13.820 --> 57:17.660
+lymphocytes because the B lymphocytes for antibodies T lymphocytes okay so
+
+57:17.660 --> 57:24.060
+imagine the scenario there are 300 million alveoli let's estimate 10 lung
+
+57:24.060 --> 57:29.020
+alveolar efficacy of cells per alveoli that's three billion cells
+
+57:29.900 --> 57:36.500
+okay so the T lymphocytes have to go interview three billion cells every two
+
+57:36.500 --> 57:43.540
+days why because once one cell is infected you're not going to kill that
+
+57:43.540 --> 57:50.940
+cell because it has one viral mRNA strand inside okay so you don't kill it but in
+
+57:50.940 --> 57:58.740
+two days it could be 50,000 so do you see the rest ridiculousness of thinking
+
+57:58.740 --> 58:05.660
+that these T cells that have memory are helping us in our fight against viruses
+
+58:05.660 --> 58:10.580
+because they would have to interview three billion cells every two days it's
+
+58:10.580 --> 58:16.300
+just not physically possible so what I am saying is if you have some you're
+
+58:16.300 --> 58:19.420
+wrong though right you know you're wrong there right I mean I'm not gonna try
+
+58:19.420 --> 58:23.620
+to be a creep but when cells are infected they don't just sit there they
+
+58:23.620 --> 58:28.500
+signal they say they don't interfere on they help with a lot more than interfere
+
+58:28.500 --> 58:32.100
+on though they also present on MHC one the proteins that they're maybe yeah I
+
+58:32.100 --> 58:37.260
+get all that I get all that J but what I'm saying is how do you determine this
+
+58:37.260 --> 58:41.660
+cell that's infected it takes take care of itself and it tries to make sure it
+
+58:41.660 --> 58:46.220
+takes care of itself and it tries to make sure that it sends signals to other
+
+58:46.220 --> 58:52.300
+cells to fight it which is interfere on but what I'm saying is how do these
+
+58:52.300 --> 58:56.540
+T lymphocytes interview three billion cells every two days it's not just T
+
+58:56.540 --> 59:00.980
+lymphocytes it's also it's also natural killer cells and it's also antibodies
+
+59:00.980 --> 59:07.220
+which can buy them all I know but all those combined that's a lot of work day
+
+59:07.220 --> 59:10.780
+yeah but what do you think happens in your lungs what is your immune system
+
+59:10.780 --> 59:14.420
+doing if it's not defending your your barrier that's exactly what your immune
+
+59:14.420 --> 59:20.340
+system and why do you think I have a theory on why steroids work okay because
+
+59:20.340 --> 59:26.260
+your white blood cells a lot of them are a problem with viral infections because
+
+59:26.260 --> 59:29.900
+it breaches the blood lung barrier see our body is not perfect in fighting
+
+59:29.900 --> 59:33.780
+fighting the fighting different pathogens sometimes they call in all
+
+59:33.780 --> 59:38.660
+sorts of things we also know that with ours a key risk for the distress syndrome
+
+59:38.660 --> 59:42.580
+it's a white blood cells that just wreaked havoc they weren't necessary
+
+59:42.580 --> 59:46.780
+they're not necessary in our fight against viruses but why do they come in
+
+59:46.780 --> 59:50.060
+because a lot of things are called in when there's a lot of infection or even
+
+59:50.060 --> 59:56.700
+with the virus but are they useful they're hurtful that's why steroids work
+
+59:56.700 --> 01:00:01.740
+but you know steroids paralyzed white blood cells okay so you have all these
+
+01:00:01.740 --> 01:00:04.900
+white blood cells that's your killer cells all these cells that are running
+
+01:00:04.900 --> 01:00:09.780
+wrong interviewing that's not all that they do right you know that there's a
+
+01:00:09.820 --> 01:00:15.220
+whole wing of the white blood cell army that is involved in tolerance and is
+
+01:00:15.220 --> 01:00:20.020
+actually trained in the gut so when RNAs are replicating in your lungs and
+
+01:00:20.020 --> 01:00:24.260
+they use the mucus to get down into your gut you make T cells which are the
+
+01:00:24.260 --> 01:00:30.700
+opposite of the T cells in your lungs I get saying this that you could paralyze
+
+01:00:30.700 --> 01:00:39.100
+the white blood cells and you would still overcome COVID but that's just the
+
+01:00:39.100 --> 01:00:42.980
+multi that's the multi-faceted nature of the immune system that's not saying
+
+01:00:42.980 --> 01:00:47.540
+the T cells don't do anything otherwise otherwise I am saying a big part of the
+
+01:00:47.540 --> 01:00:54.900
+fight Jay a big part of the fight how once the virus enters that's the big part
+
+01:00:54.900 --> 01:00:58.060
+of the fight that's where most of the fighting occurs where the viruses are
+
+01:00:58.060 --> 01:01:03.020
+growing and these lumbering big cells they can produce they can help by
+
+01:01:03.020 --> 01:01:09.380
+producing signals like interferon but their only thing they can do beyond
+
+01:01:09.380 --> 01:01:15.780
+that is decide to kill or not kill aside from producing interferon what do they
+
+01:01:15.780 --> 01:01:19.660
+do they decide I just don't need to die this one doesn't even like but they can
+
+01:01:19.660 --> 01:01:24.020
+only make that decision if they interview three billion cells every two days
+
+01:01:24.020 --> 01:01:29.100
+I'm like see so the other problem here is that your your assumption is is that
+
+01:01:29.100 --> 01:01:32.860
+every time a cell is infected it needs to be killed and that's not true no no
+
+01:01:32.860 --> 01:01:37.740
+I'm saying the exact opposite that's what they say but I'm saying it doesn't there
+
+01:01:37.740 --> 01:01:43.580
+the club cells in the lungs almost never die from natural education there I'm
+
+01:01:43.580 --> 01:01:51.220
+never saying that I'm not saying that I am saying that if an infected cell is too
+
+01:01:51.220 --> 01:01:58.220
+sick the white blood cell what can it do to the lung cells it can decide to kill
+
+01:01:58.220 --> 01:02:02.780
+it or not kill it the other thing the white blood cells can do is produce
+
+01:02:02.780 --> 01:02:08.900
+mediators chemokines what else can they do that's the limit of what they can do
+
+01:02:08.900 --> 01:02:14.780
+so I am saying that most infected cells do not have to die because of our nays
+
+01:02:14.780 --> 01:02:22.180
+enzymes destroy the RNA so the current thinking is that okay see this is a
+
+01:02:22.180 --> 01:02:27.940
+concept of training you believe that if you've had an infection you're better
+
+01:02:27.940 --> 01:02:34.100
+able to handle it the next time and so I again take the extreme examples Tom
+
+01:02:34.100 --> 01:02:39.740
+Hanks at 70 had no training for 70 years to COVID-19 but that's wrong you can't
+
+01:02:39.740 --> 01:02:45.260
+say that that that is why not that assumes that there was a novel virus those
+
+01:02:45.260 --> 01:02:52.500
+entire epitope set was you knew that so it's wrong it's wrong hey just listen
+
+01:02:52.500 --> 01:02:57.820
+Tom Hanks at 70 you're saying that maybe some other antibodies and some
+
+01:02:57.820 --> 01:03:03.780
+other T cells that were trained no no I'm saying that previous previous immunity
+
+01:03:03.780 --> 01:03:09.460
+to other RNA viruses whether it's RNases whether it's IgA but how first
+
+01:03:09.460 --> 01:03:15.020
+recognition how what do you mean how has he been on earth or not if you're on
+
+01:03:15.020 --> 01:03:19.260
+earth you're exposed to RNA all the time no no that's fine but how did those T cells
+
+01:03:19.260 --> 01:03:23.820
+that have been exposed how are they gonna help now but why does it have to be T
+
+01:03:23.820 --> 01:03:29.060
+cells whatever whatever other cells you want to say because the only molecule
+
+01:03:29.060 --> 01:03:34.620
+that has memories antibodies but T cells have memory natural killer cells have
+
+01:03:34.620 --> 01:03:38.900
+memory okay you're taller cells white blood cells macrophages T cells
+
+01:03:38.900 --> 01:03:45.740
+ventricular cells all of those how did they help Tom Hanks well how would I know
+
+01:03:45.740 --> 01:03:51.380
+that there it's a concert it's a concert of the immune system that you are
+
+01:03:51.380 --> 01:03:58.660
+discarding by saying it's one thing day interferon helps tremendously and
+
+01:03:58.660 --> 01:04:03.940
+these cells produce interferon and that's how they help look at look at a six
+
+01:04:03.940 --> 01:04:11.300
+month old baby never faced the enemy didn't have a mom who had COVID didn't
+
+01:04:11.300 --> 01:04:17.300
+have a mom who had a coronavirus the past two years okay that baby gets
+
+01:04:17.300 --> 01:04:21.020
+COVID and wipes out 10 billion viruses from his body in a week having never
+
+01:04:21.020 --> 01:04:26.180
+faced the enemy so see this training concept is we're we're stuck on right
+
+01:04:26.180 --> 01:04:32.140
+now and what I'm saying is why are we so certain that training is necessary if
+
+01:04:32.140 --> 01:04:40.540
+you see a one-year-old baby ride a bike and juggling is your next thought I
+
+01:04:40.540 --> 01:04:47.020
+need to train this baby to ride a bike that shouldn't be your next thought but
+
+01:04:47.020 --> 01:04:52.180
+the baby did something incredibly more amazing than that it wiped out 10
+
+01:04:52.180 --> 01:04:56.620
+billion viruses from his body and having never had anything similar that it had
+
+01:04:56.620 --> 01:05:06.300
+ever faced it knew what to do so why would you assume that training is
+
+01:05:06.300 --> 01:05:13.140
+necessary it's not I'm fine I'm fine with that argument okay I'm fine with the
+
+01:05:13.140 --> 01:05:16.420
+argument if there's no training but I'm not fine with the argument that now all
+
+01:05:16.420 --> 01:05:22.540
+of the no no I'm not saying nothing useful I am saying I agree with you I'm
+
+01:05:22.540 --> 01:05:28.580
+not saying it's all useless but I am saying training is not necessary but
+
+01:05:28.580 --> 01:05:34.220
+training is not necessary because the immune system is not seeing an RNA
+
+01:05:34.220 --> 01:05:39.940
+virus for the first time ever no and this six month all it is
+
+01:05:39.940 --> 01:05:49.980
+and you've been sitting in the six-month-old yeah I'm not I'm not really I'm not
+
+01:05:49.980 --> 01:05:55.940
+really I'm not really I wasn't really ready to argue this but the immune system
+
+01:05:55.940 --> 01:06:00.220
+of a six-month-old is much much much different than the immune system of a
+
+01:06:00.220 --> 01:06:04.500
+14-year-old kid but but it handled the coronavirus yeah but it handles it
+
+01:06:04.500 --> 01:06:08.900
+differently and you must know that I would disagree that evolution if it
+
+01:06:08.900 --> 01:06:13.100
+handles it that efficiently you're saying evolution I mean are you are you
+
+01:06:13.100 --> 01:06:16.420
+honestly telling me that you think kids don't have symptoms almost their whole
+
+01:06:16.420 --> 01:06:22.540
+life for two years because my children were sniffly on and on just but that's
+
+01:06:22.540 --> 01:06:26.420
+not what I said but then they're having replication they're not clearing the
+
+01:06:26.420 --> 01:06:36.180
+virus in a day well maybe they don't clear it in a month lots of kids you're
+
+01:06:36.180 --> 01:06:41.740
+taking big statements here that don't need to be made I know I'm not they do
+
+01:06:41.740 --> 01:06:47.100
+clear the virus having never measured how do we measure that with PCR I mean
+
+01:06:47.100 --> 01:06:52.060
+we're talking about viruses as if all the viral stories they tell us are real and
+
+01:06:52.060 --> 01:06:56.580
+they're not but you say you can't what we're stuck on here today is we're stuck
+
+01:06:56.580 --> 01:07:00.340
+on training you still feel that they have to have some kind of training do better
+
+01:07:00.340 --> 01:07:06.420
+I don't think so I'm trying to tell you that what little what little
+
+01:07:06.420 --> 01:07:12.900
+biological studies that I can believe from the literature that are done in
+
+01:07:12.900 --> 01:07:20.380
+animals where they remove T cells the animals die when they remove B cells the
+
+01:07:20.380 --> 01:07:26.220
+animals don't die and that's a pretty big observation because T cells produce
+
+01:07:26.220 --> 01:07:31.780
+interferon okay then T cells produce interferon fine that's great so what
+
+01:07:31.780 --> 01:07:37.500
+a cytotoxic T cells do nothing just for cancer only bacteria extracellular
+
+01:07:37.500 --> 01:07:42.500
+pathogens and extracellular but extracellular pathogens are almost never
+
+01:07:42.500 --> 01:07:46.860
+there though why would we have a toxic T cell no no no what do you mean we we we
+
+01:07:46.860 --> 01:07:52.620
+we lived in mock that's how we evolved bacteria infections were quite
+
+01:07:52.620 --> 01:07:58.660
+rapid cytotoxic T cells are primarily involved in clearing and maintain maintain
+
+01:07:58.660 --> 01:08:07.420
+no no we bacteria was a huge issue for us we have bacteria inside us at all
+
+01:08:07.420 --> 01:08:14.220
+times E. coli and we build wonderful immune tolerance to their proteins Joe
+
+01:08:14.220 --> 01:08:19.860
+and that's and we destroy them when they're in our bloods that's learning hey no
+
+01:08:19.860 --> 01:08:24.140
+that's why we go septic when we get certain enzymes or certain bacteria in
+
+01:08:24.140 --> 01:08:28.300
+there because our immune system doesn't fight it we do not tolerate E. coli in
+
+01:08:28.300 --> 01:08:33.540
+our bloodstream J we destroy it I'm sorry but I think you're wrong about the
+
+01:08:33.540 --> 01:08:38.060
+fact that the E. coli that's in your gut is tolerated by the immune system in
+
+01:08:38.060 --> 01:08:42.700
+your gut and there is a potential for that to go wrong J gut and bloodstream
+
+01:08:42.700 --> 01:08:46.340
+are very different we do not tolerate bacteria in our bloodstream not in the
+
+01:08:46.340 --> 01:08:51.580
+bloodstream no not very well but the point is is that if your gut bacteria
+
+01:08:51.580 --> 01:08:56.540
+gets into your bloodstream your body doesn't clear it as rapidly as it would
+
+01:08:56.540 --> 01:09:01.500
+bacteria that gets through your skin because you have tolerance to it no no
+
+01:09:01.500 --> 01:09:08.180
+we don't yes you do that's why we have regulatory T cells we make tolerance it's
+
+01:09:08.180 --> 01:09:13.580
+also learning you have to know that they I think you're completely wrong about
+
+01:09:13.580 --> 01:09:21.460
+this because you know every lung cell has TLR4 receptors also TLR4 is
+
+01:09:21.460 --> 01:09:27.820
+specifically for LPS LPS is the major part of the gram negative bacteria cell
+
+01:09:27.820 --> 01:09:34.700
+wall and when that TLR4 receptors activated a whole cascade of the
+
+01:09:34.700 --> 01:09:40.780
+events occurs to destroy that E. coli I I'm not saying that the that the
+
+01:09:40.780 --> 01:09:45.100
+bacteria is tolerated to the point where they can live there I'm trying to
+
+01:09:45.100 --> 01:09:49.860
+argue what I'm saying is there's a lot of things in our system that we use to
+
+01:09:49.860 --> 01:09:53.620
+fight extracellular pathogens like bacteria which were a huge issue for us
+
+01:09:53.620 --> 01:09:58.300
+we had we face E. coli if E. coli gets into a bloodstream and spreads were dead
+
+01:09:58.300 --> 01:10:03.700
+that's true we have it we have a very amazing efficient system and we we take
+
+01:10:03.700 --> 01:10:07.340
+care of it as quickly as we can because E. coli is such a threat because we
+
+01:10:07.340 --> 01:10:11.820
+actually need the bacteria in our gut but we don't need it in our bloodstream
+
+01:10:11.820 --> 01:10:17.220
+and we do not tolerate it in our body we tolerate on in the intestines which are
+
+01:10:17.220 --> 01:10:21.100
+not in technically inside our body what about in the payers patches and what
+
+01:10:21.100 --> 01:10:25.580
+about when the bacteria is drawn into the payers patches like every night when you
+
+01:10:25.580 --> 01:10:30.340
+go to sleep what does that mean the payers patches or what see that's what I'm
+
+01:10:30.340 --> 01:10:34.060
+talking about if you don't know how the gut by immunology works then why are you
+
+01:10:34.060 --> 01:10:37.940
+arguing with me so vociferously about the fact that we make immune tolerant
+
+01:10:37.940 --> 01:10:43.260
+memory to things in our gut because great inside our gut is very different
+
+01:10:43.260 --> 01:10:48.740
+from whence they breach the barrier okay you think the skin right the skin is a
+
+01:10:48.740 --> 01:10:56.980
+barrier or gut if you're it's a very very technically a gut is a very
+
+01:10:56.980 --> 01:11:01.660
+special barrier where everything that comes into ourselves that is that is
+
+01:11:01.660 --> 01:11:06.940
+not soluble in water has to go through what Jay what does it have to go
+
+01:11:06.940 --> 01:11:09.740
+through this I'm not going to argue this with it has to go through it has to go
+
+01:11:09.740 --> 01:11:16.780
+through the limb it has to go inside the gut inside the gut is not the same thing
+
+01:11:16.780 --> 01:11:21.420
+but can you can you can you least listen to this the the explanation that I'm
+
+01:11:21.420 --> 01:11:26.620
+trying to give you the T cells in the gut interact with the T cells in the rest
+
+01:11:26.620 --> 01:11:32.940
+of the body and so if the T cells in the lungs ramp up in immune response they
+
+01:11:32.940 --> 01:11:39.820
+need to be turned off by T cells in the gut that is known because the tolerant
+
+01:11:39.820 --> 01:11:46.140
+T cells dysregulate down regulate cells that are up regulating the the
+
+01:11:46.140 --> 01:11:53.060
+response at the infection this is how it works I'm sorry there's 20 years of
+
+01:11:53.060 --> 01:11:58.220
+literature about how the gut T cells down I'm not going to disagree with
+
+01:11:58.220 --> 01:12:03.260
+everything you say here Jay but I'm going to tell you flat out that whatever
+
+01:12:03.260 --> 01:12:06.820
+you're using this word tolerance and you're getting it confused because tolerance
+
+01:12:06.820 --> 01:12:09.780
+inside the bloodstream and tolerance inside the gut is completely different
+
+01:12:09.780 --> 01:12:14.380
+issue completely utterly different it's not though let me explain why because the
+
+01:12:14.380 --> 01:12:19.860
+tolerance movement okay the tolerance is at the passage the T cells can stop
+
+01:12:19.860 --> 01:12:27.780
+things the the payer's patches can stop things from entering the lymph and so
+
+01:12:27.780 --> 01:12:33.180
+you need to build tolerance tonight if an E. coli how's this let's just get to
+
+01:12:33.180 --> 01:12:36.380
+the bottom this and I'll stop discuss this further if an E. coli gets into our
+
+01:12:36.380 --> 01:12:39.780
+bloodstream I don't think there's any tolerance for that no I agree with you
+
+01:12:39.780 --> 01:12:47.300
+that's all I'm saying I agree with you completely that there's tolerance inside
+
+01:12:47.300 --> 01:12:52.420
+the mucosa of the back of the intestine the wall of the that's just like our
+
+01:12:52.420 --> 01:12:56.020
+skin but on the inside you know how we build food allergies is the same way the
+
+01:12:56.020 --> 01:13:00.700
+payer's patches tolerance is dysregulated you know that right you have to
+
+01:13:00.700 --> 01:13:04.660
+know that you're a doctor and you know what allergies are so how can you argue
+
+01:13:04.660 --> 01:13:10.340
+with me here I don't get it at one point the tolerance is not inside the blood
+
+01:13:10.340 --> 01:13:17.740
+stream E. coli inside the tolerance is the T cells Joseph and wherever the T cells
+
+01:13:17.740 --> 01:13:22.620
+are they mitigate the tolerance no I am saying is if you have E. coli inside the
+
+01:13:22.620 --> 01:13:25.220
+bloodstream there is no tolerance we're gonna try to kill us that's what I'm
+
+01:13:25.220 --> 01:13:29.980
+saying what I'm trying to say to you is the reason why we don't kill the T cells
+
+01:13:29.980 --> 01:13:33.260
+in the payers patches because there are T cells there to make sure that we don't
+
+01:13:33.260 --> 01:13:38.740
+or sorry we don't kill the bacteria I'm sorry I said it wrong we don't kill the
+
+01:13:38.740 --> 01:13:44.660
+bacteria in the payers patches because the T cells tolerate them there it's
+
+01:13:44.660 --> 01:13:50.220
+known Joe so you're not really arguing with me but you're ignoring the
+
+01:13:50.220 --> 01:13:55.300
+fact that there's a lot I never say anything different immunity and learning
+
+01:13:55.300 --> 01:14:01.420
+occurs on multiple fronts in the body that's reason why you only get measles
+
+01:14:01.420 --> 01:14:07.460
+once I don't agree with that either okay I guess you got to do a better
+
+01:14:07.460 --> 01:14:12.020
+immunology lecture then because what you've been lecturing to me thus far okay
+
+01:14:12.020 --> 01:14:16.620
+is a lot of hand waving yeah you can't just say T cells don't do anything let's
+
+01:14:16.620 --> 01:14:22.180
+let's slow slow down you're getting a really upset with me but you think that
+
+01:14:22.180 --> 01:14:27.460
+it measles there's training and that they don't get it again I I say there are
+
+01:14:27.460 --> 01:14:32.740
+other potential hypotheses to explain that I'm fine with that too yeah yeah
+
+01:14:32.740 --> 01:14:37.780
+so that that's what I'm saying I'm saying for most viruses we're not trained
+
+01:14:37.780 --> 01:14:42.780
+like that we take a very general approach
+
+01:14:44.700 --> 01:14:49.540
+you seem very convinced that there are lots of viruses and that viruses make
+
+01:14:49.540 --> 01:14:55.820
+billions of copies of themselves and you're not really attacking that part of
+
+01:14:55.820 --> 01:14:59.420
+the narrative either which is kind of frustrating because I think you're
+
+01:14:59.420 --> 01:15:03.540
+aware that the vast majority of the people that died of COVID didn't really
+
+01:15:03.540 --> 01:15:07.340
+die of COVID I think you're aware that the PCR doesn't really identify anything
+
+01:15:07.340 --> 01:15:12.540
+and so it's weird that we spent the whole hour now talking about COVID
+
+01:15:12.540 --> 01:15:16.740
+infection when I start the stream with the fact that there's no evidence of
+
+01:15:16.740 --> 01:15:23.380
+spread not in New York in New York there's no evidence of spread there were
+
+01:15:23.380 --> 01:15:28.260
+10,000 people killed in three weeks and then it stopped and there were no excess
+
+01:15:28.300 --> 01:15:33.180
+deaths for the next two years until they rolled out the shots so why wasn't
+
+01:15:33.180 --> 01:15:39.900
+they're spreading RNA I'm not sure what you're saying I'm saying the 10,000
+
+01:15:39.900 --> 01:15:46.940
+people died in March of 2020 in New York City and then they stopped dying very
+
+01:15:46.940 --> 01:15:51.740
+possible yes and it's not because of RNase it's because they started
+
+01:15:51.740 --> 01:15:55.460
+treating people with antibiotics and they stopped ventilating people and they
+
+01:15:55.460 --> 01:16:01.220
+started using remdesivir to kill them instead and so everybody that's died of
+
+01:16:01.220 --> 01:16:07.060
+COVID has actually been treated poorly like you said and actually the evidence
+
+01:16:07.060 --> 01:16:13.260
+that we have for an actual novel RNA virus is zero and you said it yourself
+
+01:16:13.260 --> 01:16:18.540
+what evidence is there if 70 year old man like Tom Hanks can fight it off must
+
+01:16:18.540 --> 01:16:24.300
+not have been very novel so your argument is so your argument is is that it was
+
+01:16:24.300 --> 01:16:29.540
+novel but but we don't but we didn't care because we fight these off the same
+
+01:16:29.540 --> 01:16:34.260
+way all the time anyway well I've known about coronavirus forever the common
+
+01:16:34.260 --> 01:16:37.900
+cold a lot of common colds are caused by coronavirus I didn't never say it was
+
+01:16:37.900 --> 01:16:42.380
+novel I mean but it has to be right because you said that nobody had Tom
+
+01:16:42.380 --> 01:16:48.460
+Hanks hadn't seen it before he had no memory his whole 70 years never had it
+
+01:16:48.460 --> 01:16:52.620
+and you said that memory is not made so then how do you fight it so what somebody
+
+01:16:52.620 --> 01:16:58.100
+gets COVID and they have this somebody gets a vaccine well you know what I'm
+
+01:16:58.100 --> 01:17:01.980
+not gonna do this with you because for some reason you're not really happy
+
+01:17:01.980 --> 01:17:08.660
+the way I'm talking about this I don't know what it is I think it's because
+
+01:17:08.660 --> 01:17:14.060
+you're really it feels very much like you're you're pushing the idea that there
+
+01:17:14.060 --> 01:17:20.540
+was a novel virus that it's still there that it was different and so well but
+
+01:17:21.260 --> 01:17:25.500
+it's slightly different why why is that so unusual I mean I know coronaviruses
+
+01:17:25.500 --> 01:17:31.300
+are the common cold I think one third was was caused by coronaviruses so why
+
+01:17:31.300 --> 01:17:35.260
+would I say that every coronavirus is novel I wouldn't say that but then why
+
+01:17:35.260 --> 01:17:39.820
+would we need to learn something new to fight this one right I didn't say that
+
+01:17:39.820 --> 01:17:43.420
+either no no I know that you said the up you said that we didn't need to learn
+
+01:17:43.420 --> 01:17:57.660
+anything to fight this right I guess I asked you earlier to take it to the
+
+01:17:57.660 --> 01:18:03.780
+extreme and then we kind of didn't take it to the extreme so if if we take it to
+
+01:18:03.780 --> 01:18:10.380
+the extreme if the CDC told doctors like you that there's a new virus and you
+
+01:18:10.380 --> 01:18:16.540
+can't use antibiotics to treat it even if you get pneumonia it's viral and so
+
+01:18:16.540 --> 01:18:20.460
+it won't work for it and you should give people remdesivir and ventilate them
+
+01:18:20.460 --> 01:18:24.980
+instead I don't agree with that but do you think that that would explain the
+
+01:18:24.980 --> 01:18:30.100
+million people that died in America it could and so in that case then there's
+
+01:18:30.100 --> 01:18:36.380
+no novel spread and so we're talking almost better not I mean what is new to
+
+01:18:36.380 --> 01:18:38.860
+some people isn't need to other people I don't even know what the argument is
+
+01:18:38.860 --> 01:18:46.420
+of all year today well the argument about it is is that you and I have been
+
+01:18:46.420 --> 01:18:52.580
+trying to open the possibility space so that people can understand that a novel
+
+01:18:52.580 --> 01:18:59.620
+RNA molecule released in Wuhan is not responsible for what we experienced and
+
+01:18:59.620 --> 01:19:04.380
+at least that's what I'm trying to do because I feel as though they've lied to
+
+01:19:04.380 --> 01:19:08.660
+us about this idea that if I had a special RNA molecule and I spilled it on
+
+01:19:08.660 --> 01:19:13.820
+the floor in my in my garage eventually it would cover the planet and part of
+
+01:19:13.820 --> 01:19:18.780
+that story is this idea that all of us were vulnerable in 2020 because we've
+
+01:19:18.780 --> 01:19:22.860
+never agreed with you Jay that I agree with you if there was some kind of higher
+
+01:19:22.860 --> 01:19:27.460
+ups who had this idea of spreading a pretend novel virus so they could make
+
+01:19:27.460 --> 01:19:32.500
+money off their vaccines their mRNA technology it could have happened yes
+
+01:19:32.500 --> 01:19:38.860
+I'm not disagreeing with that and so they lie about how they how we are
+
+01:19:38.860 --> 01:19:43.660
+inoculated they lie about how vaccines work they lie about how our immune system
+
+01:19:43.660 --> 01:19:50.340
+works so I'm on board with that okay so the the issue that I guess we're
+
+01:19:50.340 --> 01:20:00.220
+clashing about is where the the augmentation or instruction education of
+
+01:20:00.220 --> 01:20:06.580
+the immune system happens or is needs to happen with regards to measles small
+
+01:20:06.580 --> 01:20:12.460
+pox any viral any viral engine yeah I don't want to get confrontational here
+
+01:20:12.460 --> 01:20:16.420
+this is like you have your thoughts and that's fine I have my thoughts and we're
+
+01:20:16.420 --> 01:20:21.380
+just trying to share so this is what I think about measles I've heard from
+
+01:20:21.380 --> 01:20:27.260
+plenty of people that their childhood measles and had it again now if somebody
+
+01:20:27.260 --> 01:20:32.740
+gets a measles blister and they get infected with measles and that little
+
+01:20:32.740 --> 01:20:39.260
+skin cell that died what I'm saying is how did that skin cell that died how did
+
+01:20:39.260 --> 01:20:45.740
+it train the other skin cells how to train the other skin cells to not die
+
+01:20:45.740 --> 01:20:50.500
+not to better fight it off next time if it died what I'm saying is in science you
+
+01:20:50.500 --> 01:20:55.060
+if you break it down to the actual you have to have a connection for
+
+01:20:55.060 --> 01:21:01.980
+everything from cause to effect if you say this is what I think I think measles
+
+01:21:01.980 --> 01:21:10.460
+is a attacks skin cells that are fast growing and adults don't grow nearly as
+
+01:21:10.460 --> 01:21:14.460
+fast so then they're not going to blister like that and you know they're not
+
+01:21:14.460 --> 01:21:20.940
+gonna have past papules and have red lesions and then it won't happen but
+
+01:21:20.940 --> 01:21:25.260
+younger kids their skin cells are growing really fast and clearly not all
+
+01:21:25.260 --> 01:21:28.980
+their skin cells got in you know even if they got infected they didn't all just
+
+01:21:28.980 --> 01:21:33.500
+die there were some really fast growing skin skin cells that couldn't handle it
+
+01:21:33.500 --> 01:21:39.660
+and then they died but if they did die I'm saying how did they train the other
+
+01:21:39.660 --> 01:21:43.620
+cells to fight it off next time and see this is what science says you have to
+
+01:21:43.620 --> 01:21:48.100
+break it down step by step you can't just skip steps it's not fair to so to
+
+01:21:48.100 --> 01:21:51.620
+believe that you got got needs of measles and you won't get it again I'm
+
+01:21:51.620 --> 01:21:54.580
+saying well I don't know for sure if that's true or not because I've heard of
+
+01:21:54.580 --> 01:22:01.140
+plenty of cases where they got measles twice so I I do have a general problem
+
+01:22:01.140 --> 01:22:05.460
+with training and you do like tea cells that are trained and I you've studied
+
+01:22:05.460 --> 01:22:10.700
+that area a lot more than I have so it I'm not going to disagree with you on all
+
+01:22:10.700 --> 01:22:16.300
+that I'm just saying that in the case of measles if I have a viable theory on why
+
+01:22:16.300 --> 01:22:21.060
+it presents early and then present so much the next time maybe it's because
+
+01:22:21.060 --> 01:22:26.220
+skin cells are growing slower as you would grow older so you know when they
+
+01:22:26.220 --> 01:22:29.620
+have an observation and they are pretty sure that there was training involved
+
+01:22:29.620 --> 01:22:34.380
+I'm not I'm saying that it's not always training now in your gut case it could
+
+01:22:34.380 --> 01:22:38.140
+be very very different I have even looked at that every I don't remember what a
+
+01:22:38.140 --> 01:22:42.860
+pirate's patch was Jay but I am saying for the things that I thought about I've
+
+01:22:42.940 --> 01:22:48.460
+seen I've come up with other hypotheses for the the explanation that differs
+
+01:22:48.460 --> 01:22:55.220
+from them saying that it was training involved so I think we agree with all
+
+01:22:55.220 --> 01:23:00.540
+things we definitely do and I'm not I'm just I'm really fired up right now
+
+01:23:00.540 --> 01:23:06.620
+about about where we are okay it's okay Jay and you know I can tell that you are
+
+01:23:06.620 --> 01:23:13.100
+and I'm okay with that and I think that you were trying to bring across the
+
+01:23:13.100 --> 01:23:16.860
+fact that you don't like the way the government lied to us about this and I
+
+01:23:16.860 --> 01:23:19.940
+believe that they could lie about all sorts of things like you and then they
+
+01:23:19.940 --> 01:23:23.180
+had a different motivation and you're saying you discover all sorts of things
+
+01:23:23.180 --> 01:23:29.660
+well I have and it is it is three years of teaching this stuff so I've been
+
+01:23:29.660 --> 01:23:34.460
+teaching a couple things for about two years now that you're the years you still
+
+01:23:34.460 --> 01:23:40.820
+haven't really heard or come upon yet and one of them kind of goes back to this
+
+01:23:40.820 --> 01:23:48.420
+fundamental principle of how RNA works and you've already laid out in spades the
+
+01:23:48.420 --> 01:23:52.300
+idea that RNA can't just willy-nilly go wherever it wants to and do whatever it
+
+01:23:52.300 --> 01:23:57.540
+wants to we have lots of control mechanisms for that I wonder if you're
+
+01:23:57.540 --> 01:24:02.740
+aware of the idea that when DNA is copied there are several enzymes that proof
+
+01:24:02.740 --> 01:24:06.460
+read it and because it's a double-stranded molecule you have two chances
+
+01:24:06.460 --> 01:24:11.820
+to proof read it and when you replicate RNA this isn't the case yeah it's not
+
+01:24:11.820 --> 01:24:17.980
+it's not as the fidelity is not nearly yeah so in reality why viruses never
+
+01:24:17.980 --> 01:24:21.660
+grew bigger than viruses right yeah the reason why you can't really culture
+
+01:24:21.660 --> 01:24:26.940
+viruses for very long and certainly not in in perpetuity is because of this so
+
+01:24:26.940 --> 01:24:31.900
+you know are you aware that the way that they overcame this in the 80s was to
+
+01:24:31.900 --> 01:24:37.660
+make a DNA clone of the RNA sequence that they found in in the wild I didn't
+
+01:24:37.660 --> 01:24:40.940
+know that but that makes sense so what they would do is they would take this
+
+01:24:40.940 --> 01:24:46.220
+sequence that they found in a bat asshole and they would remake it into a cDNA
+
+01:24:46.220 --> 01:24:50.860
+and grow it in large quantities in a bacteria and then add a commercial
+
+01:24:50.860 --> 01:24:58.020
+RNase and then now they have a bottle of pure RNA virus RNA that's all one
+
+01:24:58.060 --> 01:25:03.420
+molecule and then they use that on their cell cultures they use that to send to
+
+01:25:03.420 --> 01:25:08.740
+their friends they use that to upload to the database and they regenerate that
+
+01:25:08.740 --> 01:25:14.740
+whenever they want to start with SARS or BAN-E sure so what I'm
+
+01:25:14.740 --> 01:25:18.740
+suggesting to you is that there is no RNA molecule on the planet that can be
+
+01:25:18.740 --> 01:25:22.820
+spilled on one place in the planet and then perpetually take itself around the
+
+01:25:22.820 --> 01:25:28.700
+planet for three years not even for six months the only thing that can do that
+
+01:25:28.700 --> 01:25:33.140
+is an infectious clone where you have sufficient purity and sufficient
+
+01:25:33.140 --> 01:25:38.980
+quantity of a replicating RNA so that even though it makes mistakes that same
+
+01:25:38.980 --> 01:25:44.660
+sequence still shows up wherever you do it and it's I mean there are other
+
+01:25:44.660 --> 01:25:50.140
+arguments right I could make it one just off the top of my head that of all the
+
+01:25:50.180 --> 01:25:54.860
+millions billions trillions of copies the ones that are copied correctly there's
+
+01:25:54.860 --> 01:25:58.300
+a lot of them that are copied wrong the ones that are copied correctly and still
+
+01:25:58.300 --> 01:26:03.940
+have everything that they need to replicate and attach to a cell those are
+
+01:26:03.940 --> 01:26:09.820
+the ones that keep going so you know you can you can have a kid copy letters and
+
+01:26:09.820 --> 01:26:14.500
+just pick out the good ones and if you just pick out the good ones it'll still
+
+01:26:14.500 --> 01:26:18.180
+be transferred very well but mathematically that's not how it works Joe
+
+01:26:18.180 --> 01:26:23.420
+when you when you're copying RNA in a cell you can do the math in your head
+
+01:26:23.420 --> 01:26:26.460
+because you've shown us many times in this talk you can do the math in your
+
+01:26:26.460 --> 01:26:33.060
+head there's one molecule and you copy it and when you copy it you make three
+
+01:26:33.060 --> 01:26:38.260
+errors because it makes a minimum of one error every 10,000 bases now you have
+
+01:26:38.260 --> 01:26:44.140
+two copies in the cell one is the original and one's got three errors now
+
+01:26:44.140 --> 01:26:48.420
+the RNA dependent polymerase has to copy one of those two if it copies the
+
+01:26:48.420 --> 01:26:54.380
+original now you're gonna have two with three errors and one original and so as
+
+01:26:54.380 --> 01:26:59.100
+this goes on the RNA polymerase is never going to choose the original strand
+
+01:26:59.100 --> 01:27:07.780
+again and in reality this goes out the window very quickly in any any biological
+
+01:27:07.780 --> 01:27:13.700
+system they've ever said hey Jay would you just said there the fact is there are
+
+01:27:13.700 --> 01:27:18.260
+any viruses 30,000 nucleotides long based on what you just said there should be
+
+01:27:18.260 --> 01:27:22.360
+no RNA virus even around because they've all mutated themselves death there
+
+01:27:22.360 --> 01:27:28.340
+aren't the fact is there aren't oh you don't believe in RNA viruses well there
+
+01:27:28.340 --> 01:27:31.900
+are RNA viruses but they aren't trackable like they say they're trackable do you
+
+01:27:31.900 --> 01:27:36.420
+know how many sequences of human coronaviruses there were available on
+
+01:27:36.420 --> 01:27:43.380
+the internet in 2019 49 okay so you're just saying there's a lot of
+
+01:27:43.380 --> 01:27:47.580
+variations a lot of mutations of them right I'm saying that yes none of them
+
+01:27:47.580 --> 01:27:54.060
+are trackable because they all use one enzyme and that's it yes yeah yeah but
+
+01:27:54.060 --> 01:27:59.400
+the fact is they are here right now but they are a background signal that has
+
+01:27:59.400 --> 01:28:04.140
+always been there always causing disease always inflaming our lungs and
+
+01:28:04.140 --> 01:28:11.900
+always always causing secondary pneumonia and this this year we just
+
+01:28:11.900 --> 01:28:15.820
+decided this year we just decided we're gonna tell all the doctors that this
+
+01:28:15.820 --> 01:28:21.420
+normal phenomenon is now characterizable by a special PCR test is
+
+01:28:21.420 --> 01:28:28.140
+sequenced by a 99 primer set sequencing reaction and is untreatable by antibiotics
+
+01:28:28.140 --> 01:28:35.640
+and is it for my son of course I think they're being idiotic I'm on board with
+
+01:28:35.640 --> 01:28:39.740
+you today but then we got we get all the way to the stage here though when when
+
+01:28:39.740 --> 01:28:45.260
+now they're lied they lied about a pandemic there was no pandemic I kind of
+
+01:28:45.260 --> 01:28:52.340
+have to agree with you that well okay there was just a natural phenomenon that
+
+01:28:52.340 --> 01:28:57.980
+they conflated and with with careful destruction of all the hospital
+
+01:28:57.980 --> 01:29:01.060
+protocols wherever they could influence it with finances and I'm
+
+01:29:01.060 --> 01:29:06.140
+completely believe completely believe that hospitals would do all that yes
+
+01:29:06.140 --> 01:29:13.860
+they did yeah yes they did and so I really need people to understand that the
+
+01:29:13.860 --> 01:29:18.820
+immunology was a lie the virology is exaggerated the fidelity of the
+
+01:29:18.820 --> 01:29:24.780
+virology is exaggerated and the mechanistic effectiveness of their
+
+01:29:24.780 --> 01:29:29.700
+cure is completely bullshit I agree with you these three things need to get out
+
+01:29:29.700 --> 01:29:34.220
+there you have the mechanistic bullshit down to a science and I think you're a
+
+01:29:34.220 --> 01:29:39.660
+really good presenter of it I think John Bodewin has all the deaths and the
+
+01:29:39.660 --> 01:29:45.620
+causes nailed I think Denny Rancor can explain to the world why there was no
+
+01:29:45.660 --> 01:29:50.300
+excess mortality where there should have been when there was a novel cause of
+
+01:29:50.300 --> 01:29:55.700
+death suddenly which there wasn't the novel cause of death was I see cause or
+
+01:29:55.700 --> 01:29:59.660
+disagreement because there are certain things I was saying that you didn't like
+
+01:29:59.660 --> 01:30:04.340
+because you thought that it matched what the government was saying yes exactly
+
+01:30:04.340 --> 01:30:08.240
+and that's okay that that's why we have this conversation though man I don't
+
+01:30:08.240 --> 01:30:13.500
+mean to do that because you're talking all day long to people I'm not it's my
+
+01:30:14.500 --> 01:30:19.140
+my chat was defending you so as I was attacking you my chat was saying no no
+
+01:30:19.140 --> 01:30:22.020
+it's not what he means so don't worry about it wasn't it wasn't what I meant
+
+01:30:22.020 --> 01:30:26.740
+yeah but I see why I could have irritated you because it sounded like I was
+
+01:30:26.740 --> 01:30:31.100
+agreeing with it no I'm not I mean I agree there's what okay but can I get to
+
+01:30:31.100 --> 01:30:37.580
+the yes string theory yes so have you read up on it all on what on the
+
+01:30:37.580 --> 01:30:42.300
+string theory what string theory you mean physics no no my string theory oh
+
+01:30:42.300 --> 01:30:45.180
+no I have not no sorry I didn't know what you were saying good this is great
+
+01:30:45.180 --> 01:30:50.660
+but this is a new stuff oh all right on are you getting a whiteboard out yeah
+
+01:30:50.660 --> 01:30:57.780
+I love doing this with you because you understand I mean you sometimes know
+
+01:30:57.780 --> 01:31:01.020
+a lot more than I do about certain areas so it's I you know I focus on
+
+01:31:01.020 --> 01:31:05.020
+fundamentals and mechanisms and the politics part I'm not nearly as heavily
+
+01:31:05.020 --> 01:31:08.940
+involved as you are right so I'm gonna get some of the language wrong but okay
+
+01:31:08.940 --> 01:31:15.820
+so the string theory so when you get a covid infection doesn't show very well
+
+01:31:15.820 --> 01:31:23.420
+okay so covid infection you have spike on the virus you're going to form
+
+01:31:23.420 --> 01:31:31.580
+antibodies to the top right but when you are given a this isn't this is just a
+
+01:31:31.580 --> 01:31:36.700
+representation when you are given free spike you can form antibodies to the top
+
+01:31:36.700 --> 01:31:44.700
+to the bottom to the side because the spike antigen has multiple antigenic
+
+01:31:44.700 --> 01:31:51.660
+sites so now it's even worse I can't wait to add to this keep going now you
+
+01:31:51.660 --> 01:31:58.620
+have a person who have who has an antibody to the bottom and he has an
+
+01:31:58.620 --> 01:32:06.140
+antibody to the top and you now you give them a booster three months later you
+
+01:32:06.140 --> 01:32:14.020
+give them a booster this is what happens there's only three components you have
+
+01:32:14.020 --> 01:32:22.220
+an antibody to the top to the bottom I mean let me let me do it like that
+
+01:32:22.220 --> 01:32:30.700
+antibody to the anybody magnet I can't believe it you have the spike now the
+
+01:32:30.700 --> 01:32:41.180
+bottom is visible the antibody sticks to that oh here he goes here he goes I see
+
+01:32:41.180 --> 01:32:50.700
+clotting oh my god you saw it now the other arm right now the top is
+
+01:32:50.700 --> 01:32:57.740
+visible right now is it going to stop no this is also what
+
+01:32:57.740 --> 01:33:02.380
+secret bhakti said this is a disaster indeed it's just a giant matrix of
+
+01:33:02.380 --> 01:33:10.620
+shit so this is what I call the strain theory yes because in a natural
+
+01:33:10.620 --> 01:33:17.900
+infection you're not going to form antibodies to the bottom and so even if
+
+01:33:17.900 --> 01:33:23.420
+it does form the body you can't have one antibody bind to two virus particles
+
+01:33:23.420 --> 01:33:29.340
+because the virus is too big but when the antigen is smaller you can have the
+
+01:33:29.340 --> 01:33:35.340
+antigen act as glue to the slightly different antibodies because you can
+
+01:33:35.340 --> 01:33:39.820
+have different populations of antibodies that form now the amazing thing about
+
+01:33:39.820 --> 01:33:46.460
+this day you've never you haven't read it before right no so you see what happens
+
+01:33:46.460 --> 01:33:55.260
+with this half the vaccines on earth their main effect is to form long strands
+
+01:33:55.260 --> 01:34:00.460
+of antibodies and then you'll get a mesh work and then once you have this mesh
+
+01:34:00.460 --> 01:34:06.700
+work platelets that caught in it every fc region you know activates fc receptors on
+
+01:34:06.700 --> 01:34:15.420
+a platelet oh you really like this and then half the vaccines on earth have
+
+01:34:15.420 --> 01:34:22.780
+this exact same issue so children before the their age of four have 20 booster vaccines
+
+01:34:23.980 --> 01:34:31.420
+ten of those can replicate the scenario if you form this mesh work of antibodies
+
+01:34:31.420 --> 01:34:38.380
+and antigen in a child in a blood vessel that goes through amygdala part of the brain that
+
+01:34:38.380 --> 01:34:45.020
+controls rage and memory and emotional responses you're going to have a personality
+
+01:34:45.020 --> 01:34:53.340
+change and that's your autism and all of a sudden death LeBron James's son had a heart attack
+
+01:34:53.340 --> 01:35:01.020
+all these young people all these middle-aged people falling over dead clots my brother
+
+01:35:01.020 --> 01:35:07.180
+his second Pfizer dose two weeks one or two three weeks later he has the antibodies in his blood
+
+01:35:07.980 --> 01:35:15.180
+you give the antigen the antigen is going to act as glue to the different antibodies
+
+01:35:17.580 --> 01:35:19.660
+now i call this the main effect because
+
+01:35:21.580 --> 01:35:29.660
+this antibody that you formed from the first vaccine the chances of it sticking to a virus is
+
+01:35:30.620 --> 01:35:35.820
+you may never face the virus you may never be exposed it's certainly the virus may never get
+
+01:35:35.900 --> 01:35:42.220
+in your blood that's for sure it could be one in a billion right the chances could of this antibody
+
+01:35:42.220 --> 01:35:47.180
+sticking to a virus could be one in billion but i'll be really fair and give them a one in ten
+
+01:35:47.180 --> 01:35:54.220
+thousand chance but the antibody that you produced from the first vaccine sticking to the spike that
+
+01:35:54.220 --> 01:36:02.060
+was produced from the second vaccine it's almost guaranteed isn't it but it's the main effect
+
+01:36:02.060 --> 01:36:07.900
+it's not a side effect you know in science when in medicine when we talk about side effects we are
+
+01:36:07.900 --> 01:36:13.820
+like the particular biochemistry of this particular individual slightly different
+
+01:36:13.820 --> 01:36:17.980
+is they make series that they're one bizarrely slightly different for whatever reason
+
+01:36:18.700 --> 01:36:23.420
+it's unusual but this person happened to have a side effect from this medication that we
+
+01:36:23.420 --> 01:36:30.060
+normally never expect it to happen but in this case i show that this booster vaccine
+
+01:36:30.940 --> 01:36:37.420
+is guaranteed to cause chains of alternating antibodies and the science that i use here
+
+01:36:39.260 --> 01:36:46.220
+there's no preservative there's no contamination there's nothing in it that starts this whole process
+
+01:36:47.580 --> 01:36:56.060
+then they're i start from this their antigen i don't need anything else and i only use their
+
+01:36:56.060 --> 01:37:00.220
+best science that an antigen will create antibodies
+
+01:37:01.660 --> 01:37:08.380
+that antibodies will stick to their antigen i used nothing else but that yep to show that the
+
+01:37:08.380 --> 01:37:15.660
+main effect are long chains of antibodies and it's just like the bottom of a bathtub drain
+
+01:37:17.100 --> 01:37:23.260
+hair will clog it strands of antibodies in your body will clog your blood vessels
+
+01:37:23.980 --> 01:37:34.860
+and so i put up a journal of immunology chief editor dr. Eugene notes for seven days i had this on his ex-account
+
+01:37:36.300 --> 01:37:39.900
+he never responded because there is no rebuttal possible
+
+01:37:41.900 --> 01:37:45.900
+can you imagine is there anything that they can say no there isn't and really
+
+01:37:46.700 --> 01:37:55.020
+um it's it's it's this this um this problem that you've outlined here is actually compounded by
+
+01:37:55.020 --> 01:38:01.260
+this idea of linked recognition which i understand that we were kind of arguing about before but
+
+01:38:01.260 --> 01:38:07.740
+in my understanding of the immune system T cells are presented antigens in in the scenario
+
+01:38:07.740 --> 01:38:12.860
+where they're presented something and the antigens that they are presented are presented to them by
+
+01:38:12.860 --> 01:38:22.300
+antigen presenting cells in a separate yeah in a separate line there are antigens from the
+
+01:38:22.300 --> 01:38:27.980
+infection or from the invader which are circulating in the lymph and those antigens can be detected
+
+01:38:27.980 --> 01:38:34.860
+by a B cell that has a B cell receptor that fits them if the B cell receptor recognizes
+
+01:38:34.860 --> 01:38:40.140
+something in circulation it will take it in and it will process it and it will present
+
+01:38:40.940 --> 01:38:49.500
+antigens of that sorry epitopes of that antigen on the outside and it requires an activated T cell
+
+01:38:49.500 --> 01:38:56.300
+that that recognizes one of those epitopes to tell that B cell to produce the antibody
+
+01:38:57.260 --> 01:39:01.180
+that it recognized the original epitope now what's cool about this
+
+01:39:02.220 --> 01:39:07.820
+or not cool what's really awful about this is that when you transfect someone with the spike
+
+01:39:07.900 --> 01:39:18.860
+protein the only activated T cells that are active can be activated by antigen presenting
+
+01:39:18.860 --> 01:39:25.180
+cells presenting the spike they won't present anything else there are 31 other proteins that
+
+01:39:25.180 --> 01:39:31.420
+they could potentially present but they won't present anything else because the only thing
+
+01:39:31.420 --> 01:39:39.180
+available is the spike which means that all of these nonspecific antibodies are not nonspecific
+
+01:39:39.180 --> 01:39:47.420
+but non neutralizing or non good antibodies will all be driven by linked recognition
+
+01:39:47.420 --> 01:39:55.260
+to produce high quantities of their of their load whereas in a real infection the T cell help
+
+01:39:55.260 --> 01:39:59.660
+for all of those different antibodies wouldn't have been it would have only been there for
+
+01:39:59.660 --> 01:40:03.580
+a couple of those so you're saying with the vaccine that only the antigen you have to have
+
+01:40:03.580 --> 01:40:07.980
+more production of antibodies yeah you get way more production because they're it can produce
+
+01:40:07.980 --> 01:40:12.220
+all the antibodies that they want to all the antibodies could be linked but exactly that
+
+01:40:13.020 --> 01:40:18.220
+absolutely and there's a there's a feedback loop that prevents this overproduction of antibodies
+
+01:40:18.220 --> 01:40:23.980
+when a real infection occurs if it won't happen with a transfection it's completely not there at
+
+01:40:24.860 --> 01:40:31.660
+so your mechanism is crazy because it's real and it's way beyond with a transfection
+
+01:40:33.340 --> 01:40:38.860
+and it affects half the vaccines on earth yeah so the american academy of pediatrics
+
+01:40:38.860 --> 01:40:44.860
+their ex-account i posted something eight days ago all this whole diagram everything
+
+01:40:45.500 --> 01:40:50.860
+maybe 200 posts and i explained to them if you're really interested in the health of children
+
+01:40:51.660 --> 01:40:58.300
+i outlined in a mechanism so tight that it's actually not a side of it it's the main effect
+
+01:40:58.300 --> 01:41:03.980
+clots are the main effect how big they get is a different issue but every booster vaccine will
+
+01:41:03.980 --> 01:41:11.100
+cause clots and you didn't know this so you don't have responsibility nearly as bad but the moment
+
+01:41:11.100 --> 01:41:17.820
+you're informed of this it doesn't matter if it's hypotheses because you know do you think they
+
+01:41:17.900 --> 01:41:21.740
+get away with it because they spread these shots out in kids enough whereas with these
+
+01:41:21.740 --> 01:41:26.300
+govig shots they put them like six months behind no it was if you look at the pediatric
+
+01:41:26.300 --> 01:41:30.540
+vaccination schedule three months apart oh yeah sorry those are that's true yeah that's right
+
+01:41:30.540 --> 01:41:36.300
+yes but agreed if it's further apart you're much less likely to have a problem right
+
+01:41:37.420 --> 01:41:43.180
+unless you produce so much that you still like if this spike antigen doesn't degrade in a month
+
+01:41:44.140 --> 01:41:48.220
+and you've produced all these antibodies and you have the spike antigen like the j-j
+
+01:41:48.220 --> 01:41:53.180
+had clots right so why did they have clots they had clots because they had the antigen
+
+01:41:53.180 --> 01:41:59.020
+and they had the antibodies for a long time i think i think the j-j produced a lot of spike
+
+01:41:59.020 --> 01:42:06.300
+to me the hepatitis B is a great example of this because you know it hepatitis B
+
+01:42:06.300 --> 01:42:11.340
+viruses really kill the liver cell it's not conservative sideopathic but it produces it
+
+01:42:11.340 --> 01:42:16.700
+makes us up through so much surface antigen we follow hepatitis B by how much surface antigen
+
+01:42:16.700 --> 01:42:23.020
+there is and then a hepatitis B surface antigen same story so everyone says the immune system
+
+01:42:23.020 --> 01:42:28.140
+causes damage from hepatitis B well they never explain how this is how they're doing it
+
+01:42:30.140 --> 01:42:35.260
+and so why do you get kidney damage with hepatitis B because you're getting mesh works of antibodies
+
+01:42:36.220 --> 01:42:39.820
+that can't be cleared very well by the red blood cell explain system
+
+01:42:39.900 --> 01:42:44.780
+they mean complex can't be cleared because they're too big and they're clotting off areas
+
+01:42:44.780 --> 01:42:49.580
+and you know the kidney tube also all this gets concentrated and it just gets stuck
+
+01:42:49.580 --> 01:42:56.540
+and you're destroying kidney function so i would imagine that with with covid all the weird bizarre
+
+01:42:56.540 --> 01:43:04.300
+side effects you're damaging based on flow you're reducing the flow with all the you know every fc
+
+01:43:04.300 --> 01:43:11.420
+region can activate platelet fc receptors when the antibody has bound to the antigen
+
+01:43:12.860 --> 01:43:18.300
+so you got this mesh of mesh work of mesh work of antibodies change and you know IgM comes into
+
+01:43:18.300 --> 01:43:25.820
+play too right because IgM has five IgG but and they can get clumped together and you can just
+
+01:43:25.820 --> 01:43:32.140
+have this snowball and i said to the American Academy of Pediatrics you need to call for an
+
+01:43:32.140 --> 01:43:40.060
+immediate halt to half the vaccines on earth because you didn't know about this
+
+01:43:42.780 --> 01:43:49.260
+i i think it's brilliant i think it's really brilliant and it's true i i think that there's
+
+01:43:49.260 --> 01:43:54.700
+a very high likelihood that it's true that this that jay that we are you're one of the
+
+01:43:54.700 --> 01:44:00.700
+four scientists i know can you think of an out for them a rebuttal no i mean i i'm i'm with you
+
+01:44:00.700 --> 01:44:06.140
+100 there's this is a real big problem and it comes right back to where you started which is
+
+01:44:06.140 --> 01:44:11.980
+this this horrible premise that antibodies are primal to our immune response and they're just not
+
+01:44:14.620 --> 01:44:21.980
+it's extraordinary though because where i i hinted about at the beginning of the of the
+
+01:44:23.500 --> 01:44:29.180
+of the interview is that you might not be aware but in the beginning of the pandemic there was a
+
+01:44:29.180 --> 01:44:35.500
+huge supreme court case which went through which basically changed the intellectual property
+
+01:44:35.500 --> 01:44:41.180
+space around antibodies and before the pandemic it was pretty easy to make a patent on a monoclonal
+
+01:44:41.180 --> 01:44:47.900
+antibody and after this supreme court decision it's almost impossible the way that you used to do it
+
+01:44:48.540 --> 01:44:57.260
+so it's pretty crazy because using an mRNA to produce antibodies avoids that whole antibody
+
+01:44:57.340 --> 01:45:01.900
+patent problem you're saying it's a money game yes and even worse there is a company in
+
+01:45:01.900 --> 01:45:09.740
+canada that seems to be poised to use mRNA to just make the antibody directly and they'll just make
+
+01:45:09.740 --> 01:45:17.500
+the liver cells make antibodies for covid and for rsv and for flu and that's going to be the new way
+
+01:45:17.500 --> 01:45:23.420
+that they use mRNA to again augment the immune system but they're going to use antibodies for
+
+01:45:23.420 --> 01:45:31.100
+all of it and it's pretty extraordinary because they then can bypass this whole patent issue with
+
+01:45:31.100 --> 01:45:37.500
+monoclonal antibodies is that to find it and then code it in an mRNA and express it in people and
+
+01:45:37.500 --> 01:45:43.820
+now there's a patent on the mRNA instead of on the colon antibody i see it's really extraordinary
+
+01:45:43.820 --> 01:45:49.740
+because peter teal is invested in that company before the pandemic and some really interesting
+
+01:45:49.820 --> 01:45:56.140
+all this down wow we tracked a lot of it down um it's really mark kulak actually of usetonic
+
+01:45:56.140 --> 01:46:03.340
+live that did a lot of the legwork on this but the biology has been peeling back since 2020 since
+
+01:46:03.340 --> 01:46:09.740
+you and mike eden and so many other people have been out in front of this ridiculous illusion that
+
+01:46:09.740 --> 01:46:16.700
+antibodies are are a measure of immunity an indicator of immunity and even uh the only thing you need
+
+01:46:16.700 --> 01:46:24.380
+for immunity which i think we all agree now is obviously ridiculous but um the tv still says it
+
+01:46:25.340 --> 01:46:31.980
+and the uh academy for pediatrics still says it and i think well amazingly you know it's been
+
+01:46:31.980 --> 01:46:37.260
+eight days and they haven't taken down any of my posts oh okay and i am saying you need to call
+
+01:46:37.260 --> 01:46:43.180
+for a halt to half the vaccines on earth and you know normally they would just take everything
+
+01:46:43.180 --> 01:46:47.820
+down right but i mean you wouldn't have said this right you didn't say this before the pandemic
+
+01:46:47.820 --> 01:46:52.620
+so the pandemic opened your eyes a little bit too of course yeah it's fabulous because it's the
+
+01:46:52.620 --> 01:46:59.180
+same i mean i just found this about a month ago yeah yeah this one this one is like i call this
+
+01:46:59.180 --> 01:47:05.580
+a vaccine slayer because how are they going to defend against this you know definitely i mean
+
+01:47:05.580 --> 01:47:10.940
+the whole antibody cartoon is just devastating but this one is really good this is really
+
+01:47:11.660 --> 01:47:18.140
+a linchpin um yeah it's really yeah you know they're going to always say you don't have peer
+
+01:47:18.140 --> 01:47:24.700
+reviewed data published papers and i'm going to say the hypothesis is so tight can i ask you a
+
+01:47:24.700 --> 01:47:29.420
+question did you did you say on twitter or somewhere else that you sent this to Robert F
+
+01:47:29.420 --> 01:47:35.580
+Kennedy jr as well i didn't say this one no you no not this but the other stuff the early stuff the
+
+01:47:35.660 --> 01:47:41.820
+first i did and did you have all of it did you have any talk with anyone there did anybody
+
+01:47:41.820 --> 01:47:47.980
+who was it that said no do you know okay so what happened was
+
+01:47:50.300 --> 01:47:56.380
+you know i after i reached out to the NIH CDC FDA like was getting nowhere i was getting
+
+01:47:56.380 --> 01:48:02.700
+really depressed and so i finally started reaching out to anti-vax because i thought the proper
+
+01:48:02.700 --> 01:48:07.740
+approach to all this was to you know stay in the science world and reach all the you know
+
+01:48:08.620 --> 01:48:15.580
+the NIH FDA CDC directors and after a while i realized i'm not getting anywhere i couldn't
+
+01:48:15.580 --> 01:48:21.420
+believe how many of them would just say no and it was just utterly shocking to me because
+
+01:48:21.420 --> 01:48:26.780
+i'm giving you this the the problem and you guys are just walking away from this i even
+
+01:48:26.780 --> 01:48:31.180
+remember talking to an epidemiologist who is a little bit helpful to me i said when i sent you
+
+01:48:31.180 --> 01:48:35.980
+the information please email me back so i know you got the information
+
+01:48:37.100 --> 01:48:41.100
+this is how they were they just were trying to run away from me right so when i and then i
+
+01:48:41.100 --> 01:48:45.180
+started reaching out to other people and i remember reaching out to lots of other people
+
+01:48:46.140 --> 01:48:51.340
+uh so it's not a ron johnson was in the news right because he's anti-vax
+
+01:48:51.980 --> 01:48:56.700
+i reached out to the staff they loved my information i was making quite good headway
+
+01:48:57.420 --> 01:49:02.860
+and we had phone calls set up and we talked a couple of times and it was really moving well
+
+01:49:02.860 --> 01:49:03.740
+and i thought they were going to use it
+
+01:49:08.780 --> 01:49:12.300
+oh you just pulled out your mic or something check your microphone you like pulled it out or
+
+01:49:12.300 --> 01:49:19.420
+something how's that oh there you go so i i said why why wouldn't he use it and
+
+01:49:19.500 --> 01:49:26.780
+and and then they said no we talked to our doctors and they said it's it's not an issue
+
+01:49:26.780 --> 01:49:30.620
+tonight wow and you know who their doctors were
+
+01:49:31.980 --> 01:49:36.780
+Malone, McCullough, and Corey yeah then then we just have to get ron johnson on the phone again
+
+01:49:36.780 --> 01:49:42.540
+because he's listening to me now so yeah we have the opportunity to brief him with denny rancor
+
+01:49:42.540 --> 01:49:48.300
+so we're going to use denny rancor's data your biology and mine and we're going to update him
+
+01:49:48.300 --> 01:49:53.740
+in like less than three days oh you're you're you're connected yeah i am okay and we're going
+
+01:49:53.740 --> 01:49:58.780
+to convince him because because i think he's convinceable he's just oh you know you know how
+
+01:49:58.780 --> 01:50:04.220
+strong this is i do this is correct so then you know they they didn't help me back then and i only
+
+01:50:04.220 --> 01:50:08.380
+had the lung barrier issue back then the fasting which to me was huge still but they didn't they
+
+01:50:08.380 --> 01:50:14.780
+didn't want to listen i didn't know that they were behind ron johnson staff not working with me i
+
+01:50:14.860 --> 01:50:19.980
+had no idea and then i reached out to rfk you know i'd been working by myself for two and a half years
+
+01:50:19.980 --> 01:50:25.820
+and when i reached out to rfk and he responded i was so happy because i talked to his attorney
+
+01:50:25.820 --> 01:50:28.940
+because the best way to get to these people is their attorneys have their cell phones or their
+
+01:50:28.940 --> 01:50:33.180
+office phones so i felt that top 10 he gave me two minutes i spilled it sent them all the
+
+01:50:33.180 --> 01:50:39.820
+information his attorney must have been impressed enough to afford it to rfk that day rfk was impressed
+
+01:50:39.820 --> 01:50:49.020
+enough to send it to all his doctors 10 12 people three hours later no one moves that fast
+
+01:50:49.020 --> 01:50:56.300
+so i knew he he he felt this was something and then they beat me up for a couple days and i didn't
+
+01:50:56.300 --> 01:51:03.900
+know anyone i didn't recognize anyone but nasa i gave her a nickname nasty nasa and melone i didn't
+
+01:51:03.900 --> 01:51:10.540
+normal color time i didn't occur in the time and by the end of our emails back and forth
+
+01:51:11.420 --> 01:51:18.940
+i basically said what the fuck is wrong with you guys wow because i if you're anti-vax there's no
+
+01:51:18.940 --> 01:51:24.300
+paper trail on earth there's no one i'm giving you with copyrights everything well documented
+
+01:51:24.300 --> 01:51:31.660
+73 pages of that to foul cheat with the reply from dr. milling i got great paid information
+
+01:51:31.660 --> 01:51:37.740
+and great science kind of and you guys are going to turn this way i have no idea who you are and
+
+01:51:37.740 --> 01:51:44.380
+that was my first realization that maybe anti-vax leaders had another agenda so then i didn't do
+
+01:51:44.380 --> 01:51:50.540
+anything i was just depressed because the happiest day was when i got through to rfk and then i'm
+
+01:51:51.740 --> 01:51:58.140
+and then you know i was miserable and dark it was just bad for about a month i did nothing
+
+01:51:58.780 --> 01:52:03.340
+a few months later you know i had back surgery and i like somebody said oh you need to go on
+
+01:52:03.340 --> 01:52:09.420
+twitter because you'll grow big so i on october 22 last last october i got on twitter got no
+
+01:52:09.420 --> 01:52:13.660
+headway for two three weeks and then i wrote this big threat about fauci covering up the biggest
+
+01:52:13.660 --> 01:52:20.140
+mistaken medicine i got ten thousand dollars in a day and i grew to like 45 000 and rfk was
+
+01:52:20.140 --> 01:52:26.860
+constantly in the picture meaning david white side is his totally his grandson and he is a
+
+01:52:26.860 --> 01:52:31.100
+podcaster and he want to do a podcast with me i had like a lot of podcasts back then i did one
+
+01:52:31.100 --> 01:52:38.380
+with you two and yours was by far the best and you know he wouldn't get back to me first first we
+
+01:52:38.380 --> 01:52:42.780
+scheduled then it was and then the emails dropped off david white side and i found that somebody
+
+01:52:42.780 --> 01:52:48.380
+told me oh i think that's because rfk's grandson maybe they had something to do with it and so i
+
+01:52:48.380 --> 01:52:54.540
+got annoyed my emailed children's health defense directly and i said what the hell is going on
+
+01:52:55.420 --> 01:53:02.460
+and they emailed me back and said uh rfk junior is off the grid he went off to write a book he
+
+01:53:02.460 --> 01:53:08.700
+doesn't take any so everyone goes nothing i'm like really so i felt like he was avoiding me because
+
+01:53:08.700 --> 01:53:17.980
+if my stuff does grow big then the issue for him would be he had declined it he'd rather not
+
+01:53:17.980 --> 01:53:23.180
+purpose not have been he'd rather no no that he declined my information so he's trying to avoid
+
+01:53:23.260 --> 01:53:31.020
+me not talk to me ever and so you know what then i found out mccaller and melon
+
+01:53:31.020 --> 01:53:36.700
+you guys just meant you guys are pretty big on twitter you guys have to help me but you were
+
+01:53:36.700 --> 01:53:41.180
+through you're the guys that rejected me with rfk and then later i found out there are the ones
+
+01:53:41.180 --> 01:53:46.140
+that reject made center ron johnson staff reject my information and i'm like oh you guys rassels
+
+01:53:46.140 --> 01:53:52.140
+so i nicknamed melon moron melon and mccaller seemed a nice enough guy so i gave him a
+
+01:53:52.780 --> 01:53:59.820
+but chicken you know he's even a little timid and not aggressive but dark because look
+
+01:54:00.700 --> 01:54:04.780
+if you're in front of the teeth in front of you want to show and you're talking about all these
+
+01:54:04.780 --> 01:54:09.980
+horrible side effects people are having a code with the code vaccine but you had information that
+
+01:54:09.980 --> 01:54:15.020
+was incredible that could have stopped the vaccine in his tracks with the analyte not getting into
+
+01:54:15.020 --> 01:54:21.020
+the lung documented in 73 pages with replies from dr fauci and you're not going to use this
+
+01:54:21.020 --> 01:54:28.140
+information that maybe you were helping fauci cover up the biggest mistake in medicine
+
+01:54:29.420 --> 01:54:36.940
+that's mccaller and melon and gory and see nasty nast see when i saw her on that email with rfk
+
+01:54:38.220 --> 01:54:45.660
+i had already talked to her a month or two before and she was a again clueless woman didn't know
+
+01:54:45.660 --> 01:54:50.540
+what adult noise and i was very polite and explained everything and she said no it's not
+
+01:54:50.620 --> 01:54:56.540
+important and i say you know she said no i don't think any of this important and she rejected everything
+
+01:54:56.540 --> 01:55:02.540
+so when rfk forwarded all this information and i saw her name and melon you know melon is a scientist
+
+01:55:02.540 --> 01:55:08.860
+and he's the scientist in the group right he's not as part of you but so i thought melon would
+
+01:55:08.860 --> 01:55:12.860
+listen and so that's why i nicknamed him moron because like i gave you the best science right now
+
+01:55:13.420 --> 01:55:17.740
+and you are going to pretend you don't even know it or are you gonna are you gonna pretend you didn't
+
+01:55:17.740 --> 01:55:23.420
+read it i want to i want to just i want to just interrupt to make sure that you understand that
+
+01:55:23.420 --> 01:55:34.140
+at the time that you would have sent this to rfk uh meryl nast and rober melon were his most trusted
+
+01:55:34.780 --> 01:55:43.180
+people for the pandemic like i would go so far as to say that what basically happened was
+
+01:55:43.740 --> 01:55:50.220
+the story that i know was that meryl and and mary holland went to melon's ranch
+
+01:55:51.020 --> 01:55:57.580
+stayed two nights and left convinced that melon was a completely good guy who didn't know about the
+
+01:55:57.580 --> 01:56:06.060
+wf and who was just a horse farmer who was destroying his career to speak out and so at this stage
+
+01:56:06.940 --> 01:56:13.660
+roberts still sorry bobby still thought rober melon was a hero and his most trusted advisor
+
+01:56:14.300 --> 01:56:21.580
+meryl nast and mary holland were telling him that so when they ran this science past meryl and
+
+01:56:22.140 --> 01:56:28.940
+and bah and rober melon and they said this is dumb bobby was going to say yes because bobby isn't as
+
+01:56:28.940 --> 01:56:34.780
+sophisticated on the biological side as them and so he trusted them with his
+
+01:56:35.820 --> 01:56:42.380
+with everything at that stage in 2012 i'm never going to give uh i i've never but you know
+
+01:56:44.700 --> 01:56:50.300
+so a late person but now but i'm just saying now i'm a staff scientist at chd and so there's a
+
+01:56:50.300 --> 01:56:56.700
+difference and i can get you on on on okay a late person does have a responsibility so rfk is a
+
+01:56:56.700 --> 01:57:01.740
+late person yes doesn't have a responsibility that a melon or that that's so stupid i don't even
+
+01:57:01.740 --> 01:57:06.380
+know if she has a responsibility because she's so dumb but she's still a doctor right and she
+
+01:57:06.380 --> 01:57:10.700
+act like she knew what she was doing that's still a problem for her but she's been she's been one of
+
+01:57:10.700 --> 01:57:17.820
+the foremost experts on anthrax and other bioterrorism since her career started so yeah when i talked
+
+01:57:17.820 --> 01:57:22.380
+or i could not believe she dismissed everything she didn't even ask me any questions and you know
+
+01:57:22.460 --> 01:57:28.780
+normally when people are i i just felt like it as an anti-vax person that was my first exposure
+
+01:57:28.780 --> 01:57:34.780
+to the leaders and so when i got on twitter i was a little angry and then you know j about
+
+01:57:34.780 --> 01:57:39.340
+charia i had emailed him all my stuff many times stanford so i knew who he was he wrote the great
+
+01:57:39.340 --> 01:57:45.820
+barrington declaration and he kept ignoring me and i was in a hurry because everywhere i went i
+
+01:57:45.820 --> 01:57:50.060
+would be canceled in two or three months and i didn't think i'd be on twitter very long so i was in a
+
+01:57:50.140 --> 01:57:57.820
+real hurry and rush to get all this out and she uh you know j by charia would never
+
+01:57:58.380 --> 01:58:03.420
+i finally ended up calling him a dumb fuck because i said look you're either dumb if you don't
+
+01:58:03.420 --> 01:58:09.020
+understand this or you're a fuck because you're putting your ego before toran's lives so i mean
+
+01:58:09.020 --> 01:58:14.300
+that didn't help my case i got suspended a few times but so one by one i went through these guys
+
+01:58:14.300 --> 01:58:19.740
+and of course they all started hating me but i'm like look if you're an anthrax leader
+
+01:58:19.740 --> 01:58:23.820
+you have a certain responsibility your responsibility is to use the best
+
+01:58:23.820 --> 01:58:31.260
+science to get rid of the vaccine to stop the vaccine and if you think your science is better
+
+01:58:31.260 --> 01:58:35.740
+you have to debate me because i have incredible science and if you don't want to debate me we
+
+01:58:35.740 --> 01:58:41.260
+have to figure out what your motivations are because it's not for the people so yeah i made
+
+01:58:41.260 --> 01:58:45.660
+a lot of enemies that way but at the end of the day i don't i'm just trying to do the right thing
+
+01:58:45.740 --> 01:58:50.300
+just get the information out stop the stupid vaccine and of course in the process now i
+
+01:58:50.300 --> 01:58:54.540
+realize all vaccines are idiotic i didn't know this at the beginning of the pandemic right
+
+01:58:55.100 --> 01:58:59.420
+my kids are back in 2020 they got all their vaccines not that not that i was happy with it
+
+01:58:59.420 --> 01:59:03.340
+but they got all their vaccines when they were young and i remember the last time i went my
+
+01:59:03.340 --> 01:59:09.260
+son was what for right there three vials on the table and i'm like no i told you two at a time
+
+01:59:09.260 --> 01:59:14.380
+never more than two why are there three but pick them up they're all combos he was going to give
+
+01:59:14.460 --> 01:59:19.740
+my son eight vaccines in one day i just stormed out of there but see i don't trust pediatricians
+
+01:59:19.740 --> 01:59:25.180
+now right yeah and i i'm very happy with the american pediatrics right now because
+
+01:59:25.980 --> 01:59:32.220
+if you're really stating that you're looking out for the health of children i have damning
+
+01:59:32.220 --> 01:59:38.700
+information for your booster vaccines and you have to do the right thing so let's see if they do the
+
+01:59:38.700 --> 01:59:46.220
+right thing if they if they do block me and delete all my posts that's woofle misconduct now
+
+01:59:46.780 --> 01:59:51.580
+because even if this is only a hypothesis i say you know if i throw a banana off my roof
+
+01:59:52.220 --> 01:59:57.820
+my hypothesis is that it'll fall on flat i've never done a clinical trial don't have any peer
+
+01:59:57.820 --> 02:00:03.580
+reviews to say that happens but i'm sure that'll happen and that's kind of what this is the size
+
+02:00:03.580 --> 02:00:10.140
+behind this is so tight there is no room for rebuttal the only option is call for a halt for
+
+02:00:10.140 --> 02:00:16.940
+all booster vaccines with antigens that fit this criteria that's the only option they have no other
+
+02:00:16.940 --> 02:00:23.100
+option i kept telling them look it's nightmare for you but the bigger nightmare is for parents
+
+02:00:23.100 --> 02:00:28.940
+who have to live with their autistic children forever so if you're really interested in the
+
+02:00:28.940 --> 02:00:33.900
+health of your of the children you say you are you have to do the right thing because once you
+
+02:00:33.900 --> 02:00:38.620
+if you block me or delete all these posts parents have a right to know this information because
+
+02:00:38.620 --> 02:00:43.900
+it's a hypothesis and hasn't been studied but the size is so tight behind it there's no rebuttal
+
+02:00:43.900 --> 02:00:50.540
+possible and if you want to study it the parents are still going to want to know this information
+
+02:00:50.540 --> 02:00:56.700
+even if it's being studied because this isn't it's so damning for you that even if it's only
+
+02:00:56.700 --> 02:01:01.580
+hypotheses you have to let them know that this is an issue that we're investigating now
+
+02:01:02.380 --> 02:01:09.020
+and once a parent hears from me what the booster vaccines can do and i explain this string not
+
+02:01:09.020 --> 02:01:15.260
+one will ever let their child be vaccinated so what is the proper informed consent to give them
+
+02:01:15.260 --> 02:01:22.780
+this hypothesis if you don't willful misconduct then does a prep act really give you legal immunity
+
+02:01:22.780 --> 02:01:25.740
+no but not if it's wolf not if you're wolf way doing something wrong
+
+02:01:26.700 --> 02:01:31.980
+how can you possibly think that you can give a parent informed consent when i bring out the
+
+02:01:31.980 --> 02:01:39.260
+string theory which is damning for your industry it's scary for them would you do a podcast with
+
+02:01:39.260 --> 02:01:44.460
+brian hooker you know who brian hooker is i know brian hooker is uh they should i'll do anything
+
+02:01:44.460 --> 02:01:50.540
+you want to he's the chief scientist at uh children's health defense he has a 24-year-old autistic son
+
+02:01:50.620 --> 02:01:54.700
+and he's the guy who broke the story with the cdc covering up data on black kids with
+
+02:01:54.700 --> 02:02:00.620
+he when he sees this when he sees us he's going to be fuming man yes you're going to be on his
+
+02:02:00.620 --> 02:02:07.260
+show very soon i am sure i am going to make that happen um okay so the other thing that i'm
+
+02:02:07.260 --> 02:02:12.060
+going to promise that i'm going to do is i'm going to make some slides of your of this lecture
+
+02:02:12.860 --> 02:02:19.340
+as part of the ron johnson update and i would like to run them past you first so you got to give me
+
+02:02:19.340 --> 02:02:26.060
+a couple days but then we'll do it you know in a jay for everything about rfk i know he's a lay
+
+02:02:26.060 --> 02:02:32.220
+person so he doesn't get nearly the responsibility that all the doctors do no and i don't give it to
+
+02:02:32.220 --> 02:02:38.860
+him either but i will say to you that that we need to have him understand this so that he will say
+
+02:02:38.860 --> 02:02:45.980
+this we do okay because right now he still plays this game where he says you know i want the vaccines
+
+02:02:45.980 --> 02:02:51.340
+tested and there was no placebos when he really should be saying we know enough now
+
+02:02:51.900 --> 02:02:58.380
+and we need to reevaluate so i think we can push and i think we should and i think we should do it
+
+02:02:58.380 --> 02:03:05.100
+together i love it jay um i hope you don't feel uncomfortable with how this went because i love
+
+02:03:05.100 --> 02:03:09.100
+talking to you i love getting excited about it and you challenged me like nobody else does
+
+02:03:09.740 --> 02:03:14.460
+so i want you to have a strong mind you have a right and i i understand where the disagreement
+
+02:03:14.460 --> 02:03:18.700
+came from it was the the political language that you didn't like the way he said it i didn't mean
+
+02:03:18.700 --> 02:03:24.940
+that it's all good i told you i'm very very this this uh white boy i'm i'm impressed with your
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+magnets i love them i'm excited um i think it's a good place to wrap but i don't want this to i
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+love a day to be uh a thing that we stop i think we should have you on more often like regularly
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+especially if you're not doing anything else but in the meantime i want to get you on brian's
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+podcast because it gets a lot more coverage and and you'll be there too right uh maybe but i
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+brian doesn't buy himself but if not he's great brian's great so i don't know what to do you
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+don't need for a couple of days where to help okay where do i um where do i uh send everybody just
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+to twitter jolly md uh basic i send her one i think i read my other account yes that's right okay good
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+i'll put that up in a second thank you for taking the time and rearranging your schedule to talk
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+to me thank you jay use that microphone all the time your voice sounds great all right i will
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+bye bye bye holy balls did we just crush that or what did we just crush that or what
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+you see the thing is is you got to be able to push you got to be able to push back you got to know
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+enough immunology so you can have a discussion where there's some friction so that in the end
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+both blades are sharper and that's what happened tonight i didn't get everything right he pushed
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+back hard on whether there needs to be memory or not pushed back hard what mechanisms we're
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+clearing the virus with he pushed back hard and that resulted in both of us understanding this
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+idea and the concepts that we're trying to push better so what more can i say thanks jolly for coming
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+on the show thanks for being here everybody um i don't know what to say other than bang bang boom
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+you know we're just going to keep pushing this until we get it right until we get it done
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+mark usatonic has been absolutely crushing it in the past few days following up on some of the
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+things that i stumbled upon with regard to uh peter colas and antibodies and peter teal and
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+absolera and that's just started i think you can already anticipate that we're going to have regular
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+guy back on with mark and myself we're going to discuss the implications of his work and discoveries
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+with regard to antibodies the antibody paradox and all of this other stuff so i hope you can hear
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+that my lungs are as compromised as they are and so you understand why i sound terrible and why
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+it's sometimes hard for me to come on but we're just going to keep going until i'm dead so please
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+ladies and gentlemen i will see you again tomorrow night thanks for joining me thanks jolly again
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+share the stream please share it if you want to support you can but the best way to do it is to
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+share it on twitter and everywhere else we need this about there thanks guys
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+i just got it today i just came in the mail today i don't know if it's going to do anything for me
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+but i just came in the mail today
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+let's get them let's get a mark let's get a mark steady pressure baby steady pressure everybody
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+Good evening ladies and gentlemen.
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+This is Giga Home Biological High Resistance Low Noise Information Group brought to you by biologists at the 20th of October, 2023.
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+Street is still alive.
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+And we are still fighting for what proceed to be the truth.
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+I think it's funny that you guys are playing the Twib game at the chat. Please do that. That's hilarious.
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+It is cloudy here in Pennsylvania. I haven't even been outside, so I don't know.
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+Let's take the power back from the Charlotte's Insights ladies and gentlemen.
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+Let's show our kids the brick wall at the back of the theater.
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+That's what I'd like to do.
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+I want to show everybody what I can see.
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+I want to show everybody what Jessica has seen. I want to show everybody what Denny Rancor has seen.
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+And today I want to share with you what my friend Mark Koolak has seen as he's been following his nose and doing what he does.
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+As an analyst and as an archivist.
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+And so many people that we know of don't bother to go to Mark's website to find out what you can find out.
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+Which is pretty sketch house.
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+It tells you something about who they are, what their priorities are, who's team they're playing on.
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+I'm on Team Giga Home Biological.
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+My name is Jonathan Cooley. I'm the Chief Biologist here at this little operation in the back of a garage in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
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+And I guess I can tell you I'm not feeling very well.
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+And so I didn't do a lot today that I should have done.
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+And now I'm on this just because, I don't know, I want to feel like I did something and it's not very hard to just sit here and be here for an hour with you.
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+So thank you very much for joining me. Don't take the bait on TV and social media, although it's very hard.
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+It's very hard.
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+They are trying to fool us with this.
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+With this Scooby-Doo mystery that they they want us to so desperately to solve.
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+They want us to solve the mystery so badly, actually.
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+That they have really, I mean, they have front loaded the mystery.
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+And they front loaded it already many, many years ago.
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+No, I mean, it's 2023. So it was many, many years ago that they front loaded.
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+That they front loaded this narrative into the TV and into Hollywood.
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+They've been pushing this for a long time. And I think all of us are kind of aware of it now, but we need to get a little better at being aware of it.
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+This is the book that's coming out quite soon or maybe it just came out, but this isn't the only book, right?
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+The first book that came out that we were watching was Andrew Hough's book and then Robert Malone's book came out.
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+And before that, there was this Breggins book and there was this book by this lady from Australia.
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+I mean, in December, there's going to be another book by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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+And every single one of these books talks about a novel virus that everybody was vulnerable to.
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+It was likely released from a laboratory. It might have been gain a function or bio weapon.
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+Some of these books even say that we didn't do enough early enough.
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+Some of these books say that none of these books say that deadly protocols were used to create the illusion of a deadly novel virus spreading around the world.
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+None of these books talk about the use of infectious clones as the only methodology by which RNA viruses can really be studied.
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+None of these books talk about the failure of PCR and why it's a failure. None of these books talk about the sketchiness of the sequencing that's being done all behind closed doors, all with proprietary technology.
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+Nobody's talking about this. All of these books are the same story. Every single one of these books is the same story.
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+Of all the lies that my government told me, none of them are about vaccines.
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+The childhood vaccine schedule isn't questioned by Robert Malone, even though that book is published by Children's Health Defense.
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+I can assure you had I been a part of Children's Health Defense at the beginning of this, Robert Malone would not be having a book with our organization's name on it.
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+You're either on this team or you're not, and I'm sorry, but a lot of these people are not on our team.
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+Andrew Huff doesn't care about childhood vaccines.
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+Andrew Huff doesn't care about the lie of public health.
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+The dragons might care about the lie about public health, but they sure as heck don't care about whether this is the virus is a lie or not.
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+And if they do, they're certainly not coming to me about it.
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+They're not making any progress with spreading the idea that infectious clones are the only way a sequence could be found all around the world simultaneously and be made of RNA.
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+I mean, the Sherry Marks and girls, she's just a person who got sucked into the narrative like everybody else did without the technical sophistication to read her way out.
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+But we've read our way out and we know that this is nonsense.
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+And I assure you that when this book comes out right here, there's going to be plenty of chance for me to open that book and show you what I put in that book to make sure the clones are the thing we talk about in the future.
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+Or maybe surprisingly, they won't be in the book.
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+And then I'll have even more things to complain about.
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+But I assure you that all of these narratives are being allowed to come out in book form and sold on Amazon because they don't question the faith.
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+The faith of a novel virus that everybody was vulnerable for that we had to do something that the mRNA saved millions from and was likely to gain a function and therefore will come again.
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+That faith is not being questioned by any of these books, including this one right here.
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+Just so you know, prepare yourself.
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+And so I've made it my job over the last year to try and figure out how the hell we got here. How is it that so many people perceive this faith to be true.
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+It's a very complicated web that people are trapped in that includes liars, liars on all sides.
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+And most of those liars have not been able to codify this.
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+Most of those liars have not even approached being able to adequately describe what it is that we are failing with right now.
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+The only one who's ever done it and I'm going to toot my own horn right now is me.
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+I'll tell you right now. Children's health defense has never said it like this.
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+Children's health defense, one of the foremost organizations against the vaccine schedule and four children's health has never been able to so succinctly describe what's so screwed up about the biology of the vaccine schedule until I did it right there.
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+And every single person that's ever come against me, Robert Malone, Kevin McCairn, Kevin McCurnan, the list goes on and on and on, all the people that say I'm a clown, none of them will touch that.
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+None of them will touch this biology because they know they can't.
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+So they try to make fun of clones or swarm me or whatever they say.
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+None of them will touch this. None of them will touch this because they know it's the truth that they are covering up.
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+They know it's the truth that they are covering up. They need you to ask a different question.
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+So they'll tell you to ask any other question but this one.
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+And that's what those books back there are all about. Just ask the wrong question and you never get out.
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+And that illusion of consensus about what the right question is is exactly how they've kept us here.
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+That's what the Scooby-Doo mystery is. It's an illusion of consensus that everybody agrees.
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+This is the thing we got to figure out.
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+And that's why this damn people map is so important because if you look through the time frame, the time course of this pandemic, the liars become obvious.
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+Because their stories change, because their details change, because their background becomes more rich.
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+As we move forward, we are outing the liars.
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+Joseph Lee was on yesterday. I thought it was a really good discussion. There was a lot of stuff in there that I didn't like though.
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+Joseph Lee was still stuck on there being a virus going around the world that was different than the other ones that started somewhere in 2020.
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+And I don't know that until I actually said it out loud that he'd ever considered the possibility, the real extreme, you know, that he talks about all the time, which Joseph, you're listening, doesn't always work.
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+The example that you gave of a million pound ball and a little BB, because the million ball ball has momentum.
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+I mean, sorry, inertia and the little one doesn't have as much inertia, so the little one makes it down the ramp better.
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+That doesn't help you understand the five pound or the five kilo and the six kilo ball.
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+It actually doesn't, because in certain scenarios and in certain inclines with certain friction coefficients, the five and the six pound one will behave differently, because their mass is so close.
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+So by exaggerating the masses, you've exaggerated the inertia that one has and the other one doesn't and made it a more important part of that equation when it probably wasn't when the balls were close to the same weight.
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+So your strategy works sometimes, but it doesn't work all the time.
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+And I think that Joe is one of these people like myself, who's, you know, yelling at the wall so much that sometimes you can convince yourself that you're right until you yell at somebody else and then they yell back.
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+And so I think it was really great to have that discussion with him. I think I made progress with understanding exactly the points that he's been trying to make over the last four years.
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+And I think I've zeroed in on a few things that I think I disagree with him on in terms of how they need to be articulated and what of the biology needs to be emphasized but immunologically speaking, I think we 100% agree that what we've been told is incorrect.
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+And I'm intrigued because he pushed the idea that there wasn't a lot of memory involved with this with this virus. And I've heard other people push that before too, including Rochelle Walensky at the beginning of the pandemic when she said we weren't sure if we would make any meaningful memory to this
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+community to this virus. Also, here, Brendan Walsh has said that before, that there's no T cell memory to this virus. He even yelled at me about that in a Zoom meeting a couple years ago. So I found it interesting, but I definitely overall
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+loved the conversation. And I definitely think that Jolie is still on our team and not trying to not trying to derail the the freedom movement.
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+I've also a couple of days ago talked about Kevin McCarron and his little World Health Council discussion about the mRNA or the mRNA contaminated with DNA.
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+And at the end of that stream, if you didn't see it, I break it down on my notebook, all the things that this guy has been a leader on and then left behind as he's moved along with the slow role of the narrative.
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+It's a really important list to understand because you can see why he's probably not all he says he is and why it's really weird that someone with this backyard is spending any time at all on a renter like me in Pittsburgh.
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+Tonight, I want to talk about my friend Mark Koolack, who lives in the outskirts of Boston, and who has recently adopted his granddaughter after a rather tragic story of losing a son.
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+I really like Mark a lot. I've had a lot of contact with Mark in the last two and a half years, and I've come to trust him as my handler, as many people have accused him of being, other people accuse him of being my research wing.
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+I would accuse him of being a good friend and somebody who is oftentimes told me to chill out, to take a day off, to think about what you say tomorrow, and be positive.
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+And often, it reminds me just to pray, which I oftentimes need reminding of.
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+And Mark has done some really good work in the last few days, somewhat inspired by my random viewing of a Peter Kullis video, but also just because he has been so vigilant and so steadfast in his archiving that he was kind of poised to make this jump, because adding one more piece
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+to an incomplete puzzle. At some point, you start to see the picture, and Mark has been collecting puzzle pieces for a long time that didn't necessarily fit that well.
+
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+And now they're starting to fit.
+
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+And so I want to call your attention to this video here.
+
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+First of all, I'm going to grab that text and I'm going to put it in the chat because I think it's still up, and I sure would like it if everybody would watch it.
+
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+And then I'm going to show a little bit of it now. I don't think we need to watch the whole thing. I want you to watch the whole thing. And then we're going to watch a brief video by this company's.
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+That they released or was released right before the pandemic, which kind of describes their, their business from the pre pandemic perspective, which I think you will find very insightful and I think Mark will too.
+
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+So again, I can't stress enough how you if you're not following him.
+
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+I don't really what's wrong with you. But anyway, here we go. I'm going to get out of this. And I think I have it right back here. I do.
+
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+It's going to hit play and then I'm going to make it big.
+
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+But also Peter Teal receives a lot of investing advice, at least for his personal investments from Eric Weinstein.
+
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+Brother Brett Weinstein and son of less Weinstein, as I've shown you before.
+
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+So there's a lot of insider info on the patent issues regarding proteins regarding antibodies, et cetera, finding their way to to the investors of Peter Teal.
+
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+Presumably, it would be, it would be really, I don't know why because we've seen what his research capabilities have been as far as physics and mathematics go.
+
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+I don't know why Eric Weinstein would have made $100 million in the other way.
+
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+I fail to see how that's possible.
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+I'd like to be a modest person, but I could probably mop the floor with with Eric.
+
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+So I don't, I just don't see how I don't know if that's true because Eric is a masterful.
+
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+It's very useful intelligence to Peter Teal. That's the only explanation that makes any sense.
+
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+And with Eric Weinstein's father, less Weinstein, one of the top arbitrators in the United States of America and also a senior person.
+
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+And I think he provided a lot of legal oversight on the Santa Corps versus a Genentech key patent issue or key patent case.
+
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+It would just make all the sense in the world.
+
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+Now, that Santa Corps case was 2010, 2011, 2012, and Absolera was made in 2012.
+
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+So, so again, the timing makes it look like Absolera, the inspiration for Absolera might have come from a broader understanding of what was going on and that the industry needed to take things in a new direction.
+
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+As I talked about in the previous video, a lot of the lipid nanoparticle technologies on the delivery side for things like mRNA, which became mRNA, right, have been slowly being researched and developed for 20 plus years, 25 years before this.
+
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+With respect to something called gene silencing technology, or silencing RNA technology, where RNA was being delivered in two cells in all kinds of synthetic ways and hope was to up regulate or deregulate genes.
+
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+Now, I want to put out something here that I wonder if people really understand.
+
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+There are two markets for these kinds of technologies, and I'm not even really sure that Mark understands the other market, just because it's not really on everybody's radar.
+
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+But SI RNA in particular, so small interfering RNA, is where you inject a small RNA molecule and it binds to a endogenous longer molecule, and that double-stranded portion of that RNA triggers its destruction.
+
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+So, if you wanted to reduce the expression of a protein in an animal that you were studying and a protein that you were studying, you can use SI RNA to knock down the endogenous transcripts of that mRNA so that the protein of that mRNA, the expression of that protein would go down.
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+So, it's important to understand that as these kinds of technologies have been developed, like transfection and transformation, these technologies were developed in laboratory animal experimental settings with mice, rats, and monkeys.
+
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+And it's a gigantic market that has a gigantic monetary base, right, because they're all spending grant money from the NIH and the Well Trust and also their crap.
+
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+And they're writing grants with the cost of these reagents already in their grant, right, written.
+
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+So, these companies, as long as they choose cleverly, the small interfering RNAs that they make, the small interfering RNA products that they make, as long as they choose them correctly,
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+and choose to look at proteins that are interesting to the academic bench science,
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+there's potentially huge markets for these very cheap and easy to make products.
+
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+But the trick, of course, is, and Mark's not wrong, nobody's wrong when they say this, the trick is to get into the human market.
+
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+The trick is to get something to be a medicine.
+
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+But I think it's important to see how much of their illusion of consensus that this stuff works is built on the idea
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+that what's been going on in academia for all these years is actually proof that it works.
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+Even though we kill all those animals way before we evaluate the health effects of the treatment,
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+we think that on, as academic biologists, we think that on face value, what it says on the tin, it actually does.
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+So, if what it says on the tin is what you want to do to that patient, makes sense to me.
+
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+And I think that's why a lot of academic biologists, when they heard the way that the, the transfection was going to be used to be an immunization,
+
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+they were all kind of like, okay, that doesn't sound terrible.
+
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+They must have figured out the little, the little nuances of it, right?
+
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+And that's exactly what, that's exactly what Robert Malone said on several podcasts as an excuse for why he decided to say this,
+
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+he decided to take the shot because he assumed they solved the targeting problem.
+
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+That's what he said. He assumed they solved the targeting problem.
+
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+Even though we just heard Peter Cullis say it the other night that they, they hadn't solved that problem.
+
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+He had burned five postdocs on that, and the last postdoc that he burned on had threatened to quit if he couldn't change her project.
+
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+So, it's a massive web of liars that are spectacularly committed to the lives that they are telling.
+
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+And I think that Mark and myself and a few other people have uncovered evidence of what the real, the real play is.
+
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+Those people are all out there to make us ask the wrong questions, and it doesn't even matter what the question is as long as it's wrong.
+
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+That's why it gets to be so confusing. That's why it gets to be so weird and why it's so fragmented in terms of what's most important to talk about
+
+27:50.000 --> 27:57.000
+because there's only one right answer for these people. Don't talk about this stuff.
+
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+Don't talk about the antibody paradox. Don't talk about $150 billion a year industry that's about to crash.
+
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+And don't talk about how those patents, as they become worthless, are changing the landscape for all of these patent holders.
+
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+And there might not be very many ways to get around that except to take those old antibodies and wash them through a new kind of system where you could claim essentially that, well, I used this set of patents to improve my previous technology monoclonal antibody that actually was polyclonal.
+
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+And now I made it monoclonal with the help of Absalara and their unique processes.
+
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+So essentially now that it's under their patents, you have another 20 years of patents that would be defendable from a completely different set of intellectual property space because the antibody monoclonal antibody property space was just basically closed by the Supreme Court.
+
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+And now the question is whether all those patent holders are going to risk having their patents tested in court or if they're just going to wash their patents through this system and get new ones.
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+New ones based on a new and improved stack of technology that allows you to select an exact antibody from trillions.
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+It's extraordinary. Now listen carefully to what Mark says here because what's key about this whole thing is that it's a Canadian company.
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+It's a Canadian company funded by DARPA.
+
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+It's a Canadian company that has links to epivacs and Aries and a couple other companies that incidentally feature Robert Malone.
+
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+Turn them on and turn them off, right?
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+And though maybe they had some limited success in technically making it work.
+
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+They did not find, I don't believe, a truly successful business market for it.
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+And that's right. So that's why I broke off into that. The small interfering RNA as a technology works great.
+
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+If you want to mess around with an animal model of a disease or you want to create an animal model of a disease or manipulate a system to understand what a protein does.
+
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+But there are very few therapeutic cases where one needs to reduce the expression of a protein and then where repeated endosing of a small interfering RNA would be the way to go.
+
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+So there aren't very many therapeutic uses for it.
+
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+But what they were developing at that time, if you remember, is not only the S RNA, RNA technology, but the delivery, the lipid nanoparticle, that's what Peter Collins was doing.
+
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+And that technology and that company that was doing that was also Robert Malone involved, which is strange.
+
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+Employers such a technology at scale. And I think a lot of the individuals that were involved in silencing RNA technologies between 2010 and 2012 redirected a lot of their efforts and their energy to say, look, there's a lot of money to be made in antibodies.
+
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+So let's deploy this technology in a way where we can just make an antigen.
+
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+We can take our technology, call it messenger RNA technology, we'll make synthetic exosomes effectively, and we'll cause cells based after an injection to express a protein.
+
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+And then the protein, the antigen body will make the antibodies.
+
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+And before you know it, now we're in the game of making antibodies and getting into that $150 plus billion a year just in the United States market.
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+And not only that, but you're using your own patents to do it. Not the old patents, but the new patents.
+
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+That just makes all the sense in the world. Right.
+
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+Okay.
+
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+Essentially, you could see, you could see this technology is extending the lifespan of the patents, which have indirectly been challenged by the recent Supreme Court ruling.
+
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+The one that the antibody paradox paper in the Yale law school journal Swiss citing the Gorsuch was citing repeatedly that we have asserted was probably put out there very specifically to be used by the Supreme Court.
+
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+So they basically took this huge area of patent law, which as far as we can tell has been curated by Dungeon Master Les Weinstein for many years.
+
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+And in 2012, Dungeon Master Les Weinstein would have been one of the first people to realize that this space is going to start to become shaky because the patent law and how patents are supposed to work is not really being followed by monoclonal antibody patents.
+
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+When you follow the patent, you can't always make what they say you can make, and that doesn't make it a valid patent.
+
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+The biology described in the patents was nonsense.
+
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+And once that became clear to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court is very happy to get rid of that.
+
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+And I think Mark is dead on balls accurate when he thinks that this might be the reaction of the market, the reaction of the smart people in the space who could see that, okay, well, if this intellectual property space worth $150 billion based on IP is about to become a free space, how could we leverage that for ourselves?
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+I've looked at some videos of the CEO of Absalera here.
+
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+And let's see here.
+
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+See, Ab.
+
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+Salera.
+
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+And I think his name is Carl Hanson.
+
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+Okay.
+
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+And see here, just a couple of things.
+
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+I have Forbes.
+
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+You can go there.
+
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+The Globe and Mail meet Carl Hanson overnight billionaire CEO behind Absalera's life saving COVID-19 treatment, et cetera.
+
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+And he's like a six foot to jock.
+
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+I'm not trying to slander him in any way, but I think he was on the college basketball team.
+
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+He has twin brother, always interesting, right, who was also on the basketball team.
+
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+And he does triathlons.
+
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+He's a somewhere midlife guy.
+
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+He was a professor in one of the Vancouver schools colleges.
+
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+And then suddenly around 2012, he gets this idea, okay, to start this company.
+
+35:54.000 --> 36:02.000
+And sure enough, with the outbreak of coronavirus, he overnight becomes a billionaire.
+
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+This is a story.
+
+36:03.000 --> 36:05.000
+This is a construct story.
+
+36:05.000 --> 36:06.000
+Okay.
+
+36:06.000 --> 36:08.000
+This is what it is.
+
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+It could be one of the smartest people in the world.
+
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+But the way that worked, we've seen this over and over and over again.
+
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+He was picked for the role.
+
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+I'm not upset, but let's just be honest.
+
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+Okay.
+
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+So if you look at the other people in Absalera, this company that kind of started about a nothing,
+
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+and then before you know it is getting all this money, who gave them the idea?
+
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+How did they start this idea?
+
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+Where did the idea come from?
+
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+Who really created Absalera?
+
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+Who really provided the inspiration for Absalera in 2012?
+
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+Well, because it's so hard to find old stuff on Absalera, and I'm not even going to go through
+
+37:02.000 --> 37:06.000
+the variety of searches that I did over the last couple of hours.
+
+37:06.000 --> 37:12.000
+Sure enough, a company called Epivax that we reviewed before, and I'll tell you who they
+
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+are in a moment, announced that they were providing immunogenicity screening toolkits to Absalera,
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+that they've been providing technologies, that they've been providing intellectual property
+
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+to Absalera.
+
+37:28.000 --> 37:38.000
+Now, these relationships seemed to start in 2020, but I highly doubt that they just started
+
+37:38.000 --> 37:47.000
+when companies suddenly have several, how would you say, business associations like that,
+
+37:47.000 --> 37:54.000
+it's unlikely that they decided to just do it, probably have been in contact for a while.
+
+37:54.000 --> 38:03.000
+So, I'm going to venture out and suggest that Epivax has been working with Absalera
+
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+in the sharing of intellectual property and things which have not been disclosed in press releases,
+
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+and I think that's a pretty safe bet, a very safe matter of fact,
+
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+even though I don't have the literature yet to prove it.
+
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+Every once in a while, you just know how these things are.
+
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+Epivax is located in Providence, Rhode Island, not actually not too far from me,
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+but probably an hour drive from my house.
+
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+Rhode Island is also between New York City and Boston for those who are outside of the country.
+
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+It's one of our geographically smallest states and only has a population of about a million people, I think.
+
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+Anyways, they don't have a lot of big companies in Rhode Island, but this is a little startup
+
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+that has made a little bit of a name for itself, and it's computational biology.
+
+38:50.000 --> 38:55.000
+It's going through data sets, finding patterns, mining for things.
+
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+That's what Epivax does.
+
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+There's been papers written, white papers out of Epivax about how the future of vaccines
+
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+should be made computationally through blood screening and so on and so forth.
+
+39:11.000 --> 39:14.000
+Get around, just get away from all the lab stuff.
+
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+Things can be so much faster if we just use the computers.
+
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+Epivax, a board member of Epivax, and their chief science officer from 2012 to 2019 was Robert Malone.
+
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+I've known this, but I totally forgot about that fact.
+
+39:51.000 --> 39:52.000
+Let's see.
+
+39:52.000 --> 39:53.000
+Let's go to the Houstonic site.
+
+39:53.000 --> 39:58.000
+Let's look up the Malone, and we have two versions of his resume.
+
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+The 2021 that was made around the same time he was on the Brett Weinstein podcast.
+
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+Then there's the 2017 resume.
+
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+If you look at the 2017 resume from Malone, if you go down here, let's see, 2017, the work experience, projects,
+
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+Beardsworth, Aeros, Intradime.
+
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+Let's see here.
+
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+Where is the Epivax stuff?
+
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+Solve, Beardsworth.
+
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+Come on, I know it's on here.
+
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+Why?
+
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+Because he was actually a consultant there.
+
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+He was on the board of directors for Epivax, and he was on the scientific advisory board from 2012 to 2019.
+
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+He wasn't a scientific director.
+
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+He was on the scientific advisory board.
+
+40:48.000 --> 40:51.000
+Still, it's a meaningful thing.
+
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+This is where he chose to spend his time providing consulting services.
+
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+He actually provided consulting services to Epivax as early as 2005.
+
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+For a long time, Malone has always been more of a computational guy than a bench guy.
+
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+So, Robert Malone, possibly, and in fact, when you look at that, when you realize that he's the only person that has
+
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+seemed to have had both experience and industry connections,
+
+41:27.000 --> 41:37.000
+I'm pretty sure played a very significant role in the establishment of AB Absalar, of Absalar or AB Salar.
+
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+I'm pretty sure he did.
+
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+It would appear possible that Epivax provided some type of intellectual property transfer,
+
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+and they used Vancouver and Canada as a nice, convenient way to be able to offload some of this stuff over the border.
+
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+And possibly, in part, escapes at least some of the US-based internet patent law.
+
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+I think Malone is known full well that ultimately, because Malone was also one of the co-founders of Intradime,
+
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+which was one of these one or two companies that was very early in the silencing SIRNA technologies,
+
+42:29.000 --> 42:37.000
+which, again, around 2012 seems to have taken a pivot to be redeployed in a way to create messenger RNA,
+
+42:37.000 --> 42:46.000
+because they weren't getting anywhere, and because the antibody patent issue was getting so hot.
+
+42:46.000 --> 42:51.000
+Now, some of you may have heard of something called the Pfizer org chart, or the perfect Pfizer org chart,
+
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+as the most incredible thing ever created and discovered.
+
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+It should be noted that a lot of the startup capital for AB Salar came from Pfizer.
+
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+The real perfect org chart is not in Pfizer.
+
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+The real perfect org chart is out here.
+
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+It's AB Salera. It's epivax. It's computational biology startup companies.
+
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+It's using Canada to get around the United States patent law.
+
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+It's using repurposing silencing RNA technologies, advancing lipid nanoparticle delivery systems
+
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+to create messenger RNA way, again, in pairing these things together to get around the antibody patent issues,
+
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+and then God knows what do whatever is going to be next, and we had no idea what that is.
+
+43:44.000 --> 43:48.000
+It's important for me to point out here that...
+
+43:48.000 --> 43:54.000
+...important. I think it's interesting to point out here that one possible permutation of this story
+
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+would be a novel virus.
+
+43:57.000 --> 44:02.000
+A lie about a novel virus to get out a novel technology.
+
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+Thank you very much.
+
+44:04.000 --> 44:06.000
+Thank you. Thank you.
+
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+To get out a novel technology that they knew would fail on the first outing because that's the way
+
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+transfection works.
+
+44:15.000 --> 44:22.000
+So they did that on purpose so that they could blame it on the spike protein and DNA contamination
+
+44:22.000 --> 44:31.000
+and all this other stuff and then say, but if we roll back and don't do foreign proteins,
+
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+but instead we make antibodies with these...
+
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+...with this mRNA.
+
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+Now we'll just give you the antibody that you need instead of giving you a spike protein
+
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+and then counting on your body to develop a response to it.
+
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+I don't think that that's necessarily going to work as an immunization,
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+but I do see very clearly how the technology for finding and locating clonal B cells
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+and getting them separate and everything,
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+that that technology, because of its nature, is patentable.
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+All these processes where you get a single cell and you sort them out,
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+you find out what proteins they're making, that's all patentable.
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+And so where you had monoclonal antibodies has a hard to patent thing,
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+now monoclonal antibodies are the product of this chain of patented processes.
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+So even though at the end of the process you end up with a monoclonal antibody,
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+that the Supreme Court has said by traditional means is not very easy to patent anymore.
+
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+Because you have these 50 processes that lead up to that productive monoclonal antibody,
+
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+the actual patenting of the antibodies irrelevant.
+
+46:07.000 --> 46:15.000
+And so they've essentially done an end-around on this huge shake-up of the intellectual property space
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+that was monoclonal antibodies by just simply doing it again,
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+46:21.000 --> 46:29.000
+creating another set of methodologies or mythologies where all we know
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+that consist of patented processes which allow them to claim intellectual property
+
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+over this set of therapeutics to give.
+
+46:42.000 --> 46:49.000
+Now the re-thing that I want you to watch is this TED Talk because this TED Talk is extraordinary
+
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+because it's before the pandemic so you hear things different.
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+I'm going to finish my hamburger and watch this.
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+Good morning.
+
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+We have an incredible ability to make molecules that have the potential to make the drives of the future
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+and save the lives of so many people.
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+Some of you in this room right now might be making some of these molecules
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+and I'm here to tell you how we might be able to harness that potential through science and technology.
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+My name is Kevin Arias.
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+I'm a scientist, most of the co-founder of a biotechnology company that works on drug discovery.
+
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+And today I really want to give you an idea of how science and technology are enabling new ways of finding drugs
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+that would impact human health.
+
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+So first of all, I had no business to be in science if I look back,
+
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+probably even less be here in front of you today.
+
+47:58.000 --> 48:01.000
+I was born in a very small village in the French Alps
+
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+and was rather distinct to be a skin structure,
+
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+but my parents forced me to go to university and get exposed to knowledge.
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+And through that, I had the luck to meet great mentors who really showed me how big ideas can be achieved.
+
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+And with that in mind, I really want to try to communicate
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+what many of us, scientists and people in the biotechnology industry
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+are witnessing how science and technology are changing the way we approach human health.
+
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+So let's talk about therapeutic molecules.
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+Many people typically think that drugs or therapeutic molecules are, I don't know, or astring.
+
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+These molecules have been made by chemistry synthesized
+
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+and we've made really thousands of molecules that have solved many problems.
+
+48:58.000 --> 49:01.000
+We can cure many diseases.
+
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+And that's one part of the story.
+
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+We all know very well that there are still too many diseases for which we don't have drugs.
+
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+It's kind of a weird statement to make, right?
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+We've made lots of drugs that cured lots of diseases.
+
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+But he doesn't give any examples.
+
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+Can you think of an example of a drug that cured a disease?
+
+49:27.000 --> 49:30.000
+What drug cured measles?
+
+49:30.000 --> 49:33.000
+What drug cured polio?
+
+49:33.000 --> 49:36.000
+What drug cures the flu?
+
+49:36.000 --> 49:38.000
+What drug cured MS?
+
+49:38.000 --> 49:40.000
+What drug cures cancer?
+
+49:40.000 --> 49:43.000
+What drug cures diabetes?
+
+49:43.000 --> 49:47.000
+What drug that we made on a chemical bench has cured any disease?
+
+49:47.000 --> 49:51.000
+Yet he just said it like it's a known fact.
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+Like there's a whole list behind him on the screen.
+
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+What has been cured?
+
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+Tell me what drug has cured, what disease?
+
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+Name one.
+
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+Tools that have solved many problems.
+
+50:07.000 --> 50:10.000
+We can cure many diseases.
+
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+And that's one part of the story.
+
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+Anybiotics are something that cure infection and can get rid of a parasite.
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+But when we talk about disease, what are we talking about?
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+Excuse me.
+
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+I'm confused.
+
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+And I think he is too.
+
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+This is part of a sales pitch, nothing more than a bullshit sales pitch.
+
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+Very well that there are still too many diseases for which we don't have drugs or therapeutic molecules that work.
+
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+So today I want to tell you about a specific type of molecules that nature is making, that all of us are making, even animals, as part of a natural defense mechanism.
+
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+And how these molecules have actually the potential to give us drugs with unparalleled properties.
+
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+These molecules are called antibodies.
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+I'm sure and I expect many of you will be familiar with this name.
+
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+These are the molecules that we make when we get the flu shot.
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+And I expect you to get your flu shot every year, by the way.
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+Did you hear that?
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+Did you hear that?
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+Anybodies are what you make after you get the flu shot.
+
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+This guy doesn't understand immunology.
+
+51:42.000 --> 51:45.000
+He understands the mythology.
+
+51:45.000 --> 51:49.000
+He understands what he's supposed to sell.
+
+51:49.000 --> 51:57.000
+He understands the mythology he's supposed to push and he understands the mythology under which he's going to make a million dollars.
+
+51:57.000 --> 51:59.000
+That's what you see here.
+
+51:59.000 --> 52:08.000
+A person who's willing to lie or accept a lie because if somebody else doesn't do it, if I don't do it, somebody else will do it.
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+You, to get your flu shot every year, by the way.
+
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+Our tea bodies are just amazing.
+
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+They're molecules made by immune cells.
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+And their role is really to stick and tag anything that might be harmful for a body.
+
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+That can be a bacteria.
+
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+That can be a virus.
+
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+That can be a cancer cell.
+
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+That can even be an allergen or any kind of toxic chemical that comes across.
+
+52:38.000 --> 52:46.000
+Now, anti-bodies have this unique ability to stick and tag anything they bind to.
+
+52:46.000 --> 52:56.000
+And when they do this, they give a signal to the immune system, our body, or in the case of animals, their body, to get rid of that molecule and clear it.
+
+52:56.000 --> 53:04.000
+So that's very interesting when you start thinking about therapeutic purposes and thinking about maybe making a drug out of it.
+
+53:04.000 --> 53:08.000
+Now, the truly amazing thing is that...
+
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+So thinking about making a drug out of it, I think somebody in the chat is right when saying that that word is loaded.
+
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+And it is a part of the enchantment.
+
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+I guess drug is what you call it when it becomes a profitable product.
+
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+Drug is what you call it when you start selling it to people.
+
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+I don't know. I don't know what it means, but it's a stupid word to describe something that's biologically defined, biologically produced and endogenously found.
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+We speak, all of us here, we're all making millions and millions of different anti-bodies as I speak.
+
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+And anti-bodies are molecules that are floating in our body, and they all share a similar structure, but they have slight differences.
+
+53:56.000 --> 54:04.000
+And these differences allow them to bind one molecule versus another. It gives them specificity.
+
+54:04.000 --> 54:09.000
+And it also means you can make anti-bodies against anything. That's the way nature worked it out.
+
+54:09.000 --> 54:14.000
+So now this is becoming very interesting if you're in the drug industry.
+
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+Because if you have a therapeutic program, then it means you need to find the anti-body that has the properties you want so that you can use this as a drug.
+
+54:24.000 --> 54:35.000
+But here's the trick. Each antibody is made by a single tiny immune cell. We have billions and billions of cells.
+
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+So if you're in the drug industry or if you want to make a new drug using an antibody, the game is not only to find the best antibody, but it's also to find the antibody or the cell that is making that antibody.
+
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+And that's not the neat thing to do.
+
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+I don't know if you remember, when you were in high school, if you take a drop of your blood and you put it in the glass light and you put this under the microscope, and you look, what you can see is nearly millions again of cells floating.
+
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+And you have no way to tell which one is making the antibody you might be interested in.
+
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+Now the trick here is to understand that that's where the antibody paradox comes from, is that these companies, probably with the assistance of people like Les Weinstein and other patent lawyers, were crafting patents, describing monoclonal antibodies as a patentable entity.
+
+55:33.000 --> 55:49.000
+And as the biology of antibodies and the biology of the variability region, the variable region of antibodies was more and more understood how it was produced and could be somewhat characterized.
+
+55:49.000 --> 56:06.000
+They realized that what people were selling as a uniform product was actually a polyclonal set of antibodies that was aimed at the same target.
+
+56:06.000 --> 56:14.000
+And often this was characterized as an antibody that could be sold as a product, as a drug.
+
+56:14.000 --> 56:22.000
+But the antibodies that were inside of it were not produced by only one B cell and therefore were not all identical.
+
+56:22.000 --> 56:34.000
+And so what he's describing here is this paradox that was created because some monoclonal antibodies are really monoclonal, and there are ways to make monoclonal antibodies.
+
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+But as he said, it's not easy, it's very difficult and often fails.
+
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+And then the production, the production of the antibodies that are going to be used is still a painstaking process.
+
+56:54.000 --> 57:01.000
+Whereas these guys are thinking about using the mRNA technology to make the antibodies
+
+57:01.000 --> 57:24.000
+so by using artificial means of creating the monoclonal antibody patented artificial means, they resurrect this whole market as a patentable market, but only if you use their tech.
+
+57:25.000 --> 57:32.000
+Because if you use the traditional way of making monoclonal antibodies, that's really not patentable anymore.
+
+57:32.000 --> 57:37.000
+At least you're risking the possibility that your patent will be unenforceable.
+
+57:37.000 --> 57:53.000
+Whereas if you go through these guys and partner with them, they only need a small royalty and now you have a partnership with several proprietary patented processes plus your unique monoclonal.
+
+57:54.000 --> 58:07.000
+And that's what makes it so interesting, they're looking for clients that have the drugs already, and then they'll improve the drugs through their algorithms.
+
+58:07.000 --> 58:21.000
+So if you're a scientist and you're working on a program and you have to find that antibody, you have a really big problem, you don't know and you can't get that cell that's making the antibody you need.
+
+58:21.000 --> 58:24.000
+So how do you do that?
+
+58:24.000 --> 58:36.000
+Well, as very often, what happened in science, the same way we've been shooting for the stars, we've built rockets and we've built satellites, we've built new tools, new systems.
+
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+Well, in this case, we've had to build systems that can allow us to screen these cells that are making antibodies to find the ones that we can turn into a drug.
+
+58:48.000 --> 59:03.000
+So luckily, I've been part of a group of very small people a few years ago here at the university and we were all working on different aspects of biomedical research, but we were essentially tinkering and trying to make miniaturized systems that could move cells around.
+
+59:04.000 --> 59:17.000
+And quite rapidly, we realized that by combining the things together that all of us were doing, we could actually make a system that was very efficient at finding those cells that are making antibodies that could be turned into drugs.
+
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+It's been working so well that we started a company out of it, and the company's doing quite well, we're working with some of the most innovative companies in the world now, biotech and pharmaceutical companies.
+
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+So that's been a long story short, but what I'm telling you is that we can find these antibodies, and that's a really great thing.
+
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+Now, what you might ask me is, well, that's great, you know, telling us antibodies are important, but isn't really relevant.
+
+59:49.000 --> 01:00:03.000
+So the context, and just to give you a little bit of perspective, is that 30 years ago, the only drugs or therapeutic molecules that were in the market were molecules like Tylenol or Astring, these type of chemicals.
+
+01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:10.000
+Now we're in 2018, six of the top 10 blockbuster drugs are antibodies.
+
+01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:13.000
+This is the fastest growing class of therapeutics.
+
+01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.000
+This is a hundred billion dollar market.
+
+01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:22.000
+We have enabled therapeutic strategies that were thought to be impossible before.
+
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+Cancer is a great example.
+
+01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:34.000
+We've been having issues making molecules that can kill the cancer and keep healthy cells of patients alive.
+
+01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:41.000
+That's why we have all these problems with toxicity side effects of molecules or drugs that are on the market.
+
+01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:51.000
+With antibodies, people have enabled strategy where they actually target the immune system of the patient so that the immune system of the patient can actually get rid of the cancer itself.
+
+01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:54.000
+It's been a revolution in the field.
+
+01:00:54.000 --> 01:01:00.000
+People who were out of solution assured the cancer themselves and get into remission.
+
+01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:03.000
+This has led to a new field.
+
+01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:06.000
+Yeah, that happened to my sister-in-law in the Netherlands.
+
+01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:17.000
+She was in remission from ovarian cancer and then they gave her four shots over a year and her cancer came back and killed her in a month.
+
+01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:20.000
+That's true story.
+
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+I've got another friend who went to Hollywood to be an actress when I went to the Netherlands to be a scientist in 2002.
+
+01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:49.000
+And in order to be on the set of the Captain Picard show so that she could be the Borg Queen, she took three shots and got super fast brain cancer and died.
+
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+These people are all being killed because of the arrogance that you see on this stage here where it's just RNA and antibodies are important and stuff.
+
+01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:10.000
+The lack of respect for the sacred biology of the human is what's going to destroy this world.
+
+01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:17.000
+And it's so obvious to me how we got here now when I look at this arrogance before the pandemic.
+
+01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:21.000
+It's going to get much worse before it gets better in this video alone.
+
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+It's called immunotherapy.
+
+01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:31.000
+We've been able to treat arthritis, inflammation, autoimmune disease and so on.
+
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+Even a few weeks ago, a new antibody has been approved to treat migraine, which is a relief for many people.
+
+01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:46.000
+And that's what's happening at a pace that is unprecedented.
+
+01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:49.000
+An antibody for migraine.
+
+01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:51.000
+Boy, that sounds like a tough one.
+
+01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:54.000
+I think that is even more amazing is what I'm just about to tell you.
+
+01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:56.000
+What's more amazing?
+
+01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:58.000
+Even more amazing.
+
+01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:05.000
+We know that infectious disease and specifically viruses are a problem.
+
+01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:10.000
+Flu and other viruses still kill hundreds of thousands of people every year.
+
+01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:18.000
+The Ebola crisis is a sober reminder of the vulnerability of our societies to those types of pandemics.
+
+01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:23.000
+They spread rapidly and when they are lethal, we are very exposed.
+
+01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:34.000
+Bill Gates, earlier this spring, called us the biggest threat humanity is facing if a new virus or a virus weaponized is launched.
+
+01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:42.000
+A couple of days ago, a plane was flying from Lameka to GFK had a problem.
+
+01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:49.000
+Out of 500 passengers, about 100 of them get sick and no one knew what it was.
+
+01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:52.000
+So when they landed in GFK, it was almost a crisis.
+
+01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:56.000
+No one knew exactly what was making these people sick.
+
+01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.000
+And we weren't sure we could react.
+
+01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:03.000
+If this had been Ebola, I'm not sure we could have taken.
+
+01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:05.000
+What was it?
+
+01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:07.000
+Our antibodies can be powerful.
+
+01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:09.000
+What was it?
+
+01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:11.000
+Food poisoning?
+
+01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:15.000
+Not worth mentioning?
+
+01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:18.000
+The mythology is thick and this was in 2019.
+
+01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:23.000
+They were laying it down thick already, getting ready for the big show.
+
+01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:26.000
+We've been very successful so far.
+
+01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:32.000
+So the next question is, can we use antibodies to prevent the next pandemic?
+
+01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:35.000
+And my answer is yes, yes we can.
+
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+If you or me are getting sick, if we're getting the flu, if bad luck, we get Ebola and we survive it, our body will make great antibodies.
+
+01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:52.000
+And now we have technologies to find antibodies that can neutralize the virus.
+
+01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:54.000
+That's something we can do.
+
+01:04:54.000 --> 01:05:01.000
+But in the case of viruses that are spreading rapidly, we don't have the capabilities to discover the antibodies.
+
+01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:05.000
+And turn it into rapidly enough.
+
+01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:13.000
+It takes about seven to ten years from the discovery of an antibody before it reaches market.
+
+01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:17.000
+That's the status, the situation right now.
+
+01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:19.000
+So how are we going to solve this?
+
+01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:28.000
+Well, let me tell you about DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency from the Department of Defense in the U.S.
+
+01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:39.000
+For those of you who haven't heard about DARPA, this is the agency that has created ARPANET, the ancestor of what we know as Internet now.
+
+01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.000
+They've created stealth technology.
+
+01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:44.000
+They've even created Siri, GPS.
+
+01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:49.000
+So this is an agency and these are people who are living in the future.
+
+01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:51.000
+This is science fiction.
+
+01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:55.000
+And one of the top priority is to solve that problem.
+
+01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.000
+How do we prevent the next pandemic?
+
+01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:04.000
+So what they want to do is to put in place all the technologies that we need once and for all
+
+01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:12.000
+so that we can discover antibodies, vectorize them, have enough to deliver to about 20,000 people
+
+01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:14.000
+so that we can put a fire break.
+
+01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:20.000
+Would any new virus or any new flu virus, any new mutant, would come out?
+
+01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:22.000
+A fire break?
+
+01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:29.000
+You mean 20,000 people that you want to protect from the clone that you release and that everybody else has screwed?
+
+01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:33.000
+20,000 people will be a fire break?
+
+01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:35.000
+What is he talking about?
+
+01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:41.000
+You can't give antibodies to 20,000 people that you know are going to be your fire break unless they're already...
+
+01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:46.000
+He just told us that you give it to them after they're sick.
+
+01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:49.000
+They're already off.
+
+01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:52.000
+They're already losing their foundation.
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+The biology is already in the contradictory because it's dumb simple.
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+Antibodies are immunity and we can make antibodies.
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+Antibodies, antibodies, antibodies, drugs, $150 billion drugs, antibodies, antibodies, antibodies.
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+It's basically all he said.
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+And they want to do this in 60 days.
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+60 days.
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+I told you right now, the industry is doing this in 7 to 10 years.
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+That's the magnitude of the effort.
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+And I'm telling you, all the people working on that project led by Colerne and Matt Hepburn, it's a public project, it's called P3, are committed.
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+Almost feel it's their duty because we know we have to solve that problem.
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+And the only way to get there is through science and technology and pushing the limits of it.
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+So with that in mind, if there's one message I'd like you to take home today is that we are witnessing amazing progress in the space of human health.
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+There's a combination of basic discoveries, investments, new technologies that are all coming together that are providing unique opportunities.
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+But at the same time, when science is more than ever questioned and thinking about the anti-vaccine movement, for example, when this information is shared so rapidly,
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+I truly believe that we must remain mindful and vigilant, mindful and vigilant about what science and technology has brought us.
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+We've built most of our societies on science and technology.
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+We've been able to understand better our world, but also how us are working as humans.
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+So we need to keep building on this momentum. We need to keep pushing the limits so that we can make a positive impact on our societies.
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+Thank you very much.
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+So that's one of the worst TED talks that you've ever seen, I'm sure, but the point is, and I can't stress it enough, the point is that this company represents an obvious response to the antibody paradox,
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+and I haven't really known what to do with, have been struggling to put into place, have been struggling to fit in these pieces together in Absalara,
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+and its focus on finding monoclonal antibodies and bringing them to market in record time, funding by DARPA, working with a cutest with the lipid nanoparticles that are used.
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+In the COVID shot, it all lines up.
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+And what really lines up is the idea that somebody like Bob Malone was brokering these technologies between the United States government and the Canadian government, the United States government and Canadian firms.
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+What makes sense is this exchange of American ideas with a foreign company in parallel with a change in the legal intellectual property space of America.
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+Why isn't DARPA funding and a startup company in America to do this?
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+Why isn't Peter Thiel on the board of an American company doing this?
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+I would say it might be because of the antibody paradox, the antibody patent paradox.
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+It's better to make an antibody company in Canada than it would be to make it here, where the entire intellectual property space of antibodies has been fundamentally changed and remains untested.
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+And in fact, they moved up there before the antibody paradox was actually played out, almost as if they knew that it was going to play out.
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+Watch that video by Mark. Watch the whole thing.
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+Please. Oh, sorry, I was already there. Watch the whole thing.
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+Remember the reason why we're here is because it doesn't matter what's true, but matter what is perceived to be true, and that's how they've gotten us here.
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+A spectacular commitment to lies.
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+And the lies mostly revolve around gain of function, but not only that, it's also about your immune system and about the value of antibodies and about what vaccination can and can't do.
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+They've lied about it all.
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+And they've told us a story that just is not mathematically correct about spread of a novel cause of death.
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+There's no evidence of that spread, and there's no evidence of a novel cause of death. There's an evidence of some serious iatrogenic murder, but not of a novel aerosolized spreading cause of death, not really.
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+And I think they're misleading our young so that they can convert our freedoms to fascism. That's what they're doing.
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+And all these people need you to do is ask the wrong questions.
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+That's what Paul Cottrell has been doing from the very beginning. That's what George Webb does.
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+That's what Robert Malone does. That's what Jared Bunded Walsh does. That's what Nurse Aaron did.
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+That's what Brett Weinstein did. They make you ask the wrong questions were just long enough so that you're done.
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+You've already entered the trap.
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+And none of these people will question the novel virus. None of these people will question that we had to lock down. None of these people will question that some people were saved by the mRNA.
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+And none of these people will question that it could have been a gain of function virus. And that might be the reason why we're having so much trouble with it. And that might be the reason why it'll come again. None of them will question it.
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+And that's what the Scooby Doo is.
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+It's this illusion of consensus that we all figured it out. And that's why Fox News viewers and CNN News viewers both believe that it was a lab leak. No.
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+And they've all accepted this idea that we didn't know what was going to go on. We don't know what's going on. Anybody's our stuff.
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+And this change has allowed everybody to ignore the fact that we killed people in the hospital. And we're still doing it.
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+And we upped all the other causes of death that we could.
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+Including heart attacks, drug overdoses, everything. Everything that could be pumped up was pumped up.
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+Drug overdoses was a big one. Heart attacks in certain locales was a big one so that they could say that the virus was causing heart attacks.
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+What they didn't tell you is they weren't resuscitating anybody in New York for a month.
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+So we've got to break this illusion of consensus one mind at a time, ladies and gentlemen, you can help me.
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+You can help me by explaining what the Scooby Doo is, which is an illusion of consensus about a laboratory, bad cave, virus leak.
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+And a cover up of it.
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+We were all fooled into believing this is what happened and it didn't.
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+They have conflated a background signal with that spread.
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+And it is the protocols that were murder and transfection is not medicine.
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+It was likely an infectious clone release in several places in the world that led to the massive bamboozlement of the entire molecular biology community, assuming that the signals had to be real and not understanding the depth and the breadth of the lie.
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+You might call it a transfection agent release if it was just a spike protein and a toxin, but I don't know.
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+It's definitely not no viruses because the fidelity of them has been exaggerated.
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+Their abundance has been exaggerated.
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+Their role in our biology has been grossly understated in some ways and over exaggerated in other ways.
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+But no viruses is not the answer.
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+It is a trap.
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+It is a trap like any other trap.
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+As long as you don't ask the right questions, you'll never get out.
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+And the no virus group is a very easy way to get you to not ask the right questions.
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+And you need to ask questions about the swarm.
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+You need to ask questions about clones.
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+You need to ask questions about PCR.
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+You need to question it about do not resuscitate orders.
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+And if you're talking no virus, you're never going to answer any of those questions.
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+You're never going to talk about any of this.
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+Just like Malone never talks about any of this.
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+Just like here at London Ball, she never talks about anything like this.
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+Just like Brett Weinstein never covers any of this anymore.
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+None of them do.
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+Kevin McCare never covered any of this.
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+Kevin McCurnan doesn't cover any of this.
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+Charles Rixie doesn't cover any of this.
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+None of them cover any of this list.
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+Because they're focused on making sure that you ask the wrong questions and stay trapped in the Scooby-Doo.
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+They don't want you to see what's being done to your children and your children's children.
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+They don't want you to have a far enough vision to understand that people would lie to you for this because it's all the marbles.
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+And all of those people that I just listed, they won't address this screen.
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+They won't address this statement.
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+None of them have been able to codify this truth like Gigo and Biological has codified it.
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+So if you want to know who's playing on the team and who's not, ask people why it took them so long and they still haven't come up with this set of words.
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+Ask them because they'll have no excuse other than they get paid not to come up with it.
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+Well, I'm now a staff scientist at Children's Health Defense and I'm very much prepared to bring more of this reign.
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+I'm ready. So bring it on ladies and gentlemen.
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+That's another night in. See you tomorrow.
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+Thanks for watching.
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+Thanks for watching.
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+Thanks for watching.
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+Thank you.
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+combining to form microclots, that's all I'm totally down with that. But to then
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+jump to the stage where that explanation now covers all of the problems with
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+vaccines, it's another problem with vaccines. And I think that's the that's
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+the that's the nuance that everybody needs to constantly be vigilant of
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+because all all of the people that are trying to trip us up for sure are
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+gonna give us easy explanations which replace other explanations. And that is
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+a temptation that you cannot jump to because it's just like the DNA
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+contamination of the RNA shot is now tempting to jump to that as the
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+explanation where in reality we have this whole toolbox of of attributes of
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+transfection which are bad and then the quality control and then this and then
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+they all add together and the trick is to not let any one of us any one of
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+these these explanations start to dominate to the point where all of the
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+other impacts which we know are real are diluted or lost and that's basically
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+what they're trying to do with the with the protocols right they're trying to
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+tell stories and stories and stories so that the protocols go farther and farther
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+into the past so that the rising number of opioid deaths from 2020 to 2021 to
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+2022 go farther and farther in the past that's what they want and so that's why
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+we have to be very vigilant and and work constantly to to update this list and
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+not let the list be changed but rather just added to and that that was
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+especially true with regard to what Kevin McCurn and I believe has been
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+basically up to is he's populating this list but then he's he's not reciting it
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+anymore and so if he if he has all this publicity has all this chance to tell
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+people how bad transfection is he's definitely not taking advantage of it
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+and instead he's focused on the latest greatest thing which is this CD and A
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+contamination which of course is a very different objection than what he was
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+making in 2020 in 2021 in 2022 and it's really important that we pay
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+attention to these people because it's over time it's it's very hard to lie
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+consistently and you can be like Mark and you can have made mistakes you can be
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+like Mark and have sort of followed false leads or chased things that didn't
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+need to be chased anymore but if he's correcting himself and he's he's if he's
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+reevaluating where he stands like I try to do and like others try to do then
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+then there's nothing wrong with playing a few notes as long as you're playing
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+with passion and with the idea that that you want to get better and so you know
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+it feels really good but I'm gonna try and take a little easy on my throat just
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+to make sure I don't go nuts because I'm really excited and and I want to just
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+talk all day but we're gonna go a little slower here so the show must go on and
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+we did a number of shows recently about about companies related to Canadian
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+biosciences and it's become really increasingly curious to me how so much
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+of this story is just crossed that border and how much of that story
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+15:41.100 --> 15:44.940
+actually was already across the border at the very early parts of the pandemic
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+with this with this researcher who a Chinese researcher who was working on Z
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+map and had this antibody cocktail that was really good and was on the front of
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+time and and then accused of being a spy and stealing and disappearing and it
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+wasn't really clear what it was about this lady that was weird but Mark was
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+one of the first people to really point out that this Z map was this antibody
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+cocktail that might have been useful for this or or at least wasn't
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+antibody cocktail that had been previously compared to remdesivir and so
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+there was reason to believe that that this Z map would would somehow muddy the
+
+16:29.980 --> 16:35.540
+waters around remdesivir and maybe it needed to disappear anyway we have more
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+16:35.540 --> 16:41.780
+recently crossed the border into Canada with regards to Peter colas and Peter
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+colas brought us to Canada because number one he's the guy who apparently is
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+responsible for the intellectual property of the lipid nanoparticles
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+that are now used for all of these gene therapies and vaccines I shouldn't
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+call them vaccines and transfections but more importantly Robert Malone was the
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+one who actually pointed us to him in one of his sub-stacks which was being
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+quite critical of the awarding of the Nobel Prize and said that you know if
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+anybody had and he used the patent law language enabling technology it would
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+be Peter colas and so in my offline discussions with my friend regular guy
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+it became clear to him in his eyes that the language that Robert Malone had
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+been using in that article was really intellectual property law type language
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+when you say enabling technology in regards to a patent you really talking
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+about patent law and in that sense it seemed almost as if the the idea of the
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+intellectual property that was being you know acknowledged with the MR of the
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+mRNA with the Nobel Prize that intellectual property may not be as solid
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+as the award might make it seem and the reason why is because the enabling
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+technology in Robert Malone's mind wasn't the chemical alterations of the
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+mRNA but it was the lipid nanoparticles that allowed it so it's an interesting
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+assertion because remember and I'm just breaking this down with this on screen
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+I don't really know why maybe you can you can copy this video that we're gonna
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+watch here but it's interesting because up until that statement it should be
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+very clear to you that it was his it was his idea of using RNA as a vaccine
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+and all of the he had like eight patents around this so as he first came out in
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+2021 remember part of the reason why he came out was to claim in mentorship but
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+now after the Nobel Prize is awarded it's almost a change in position if you
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+think that well in 2021 I was the one who came up with all the relevant ideas for
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+using RNA as a vaccine and then when the Nobel Prize is awarded you say well
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+actually what they did isn't that impressive because the enabling
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+technology is is Peter Kullis's technology so it's a very very
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+interesting pivot that actually is not consistent with his his earlier three
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+years of behavior and so you can only see this as a continuing evolving op or
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+continuing evolving construct it's not just somebody struggling to tell the
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+truth this is a person who is adjusting the narrative and adjusting what he
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+says in order to keep aiming at whatever goal they're aimed at and I think that
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+that's how you should start to see most of the people's changing behavior is if
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+you think about what their goal was for the entire three years that I've been
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+online my goal has been to free my children from this illusion into free our
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+society from this illusion and that's not really the goal of a lot of other
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+people that let's say compete for this this kind of airtime I mean Kevin McCarran
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+has never been about stopping the thing Kevin McCarran has never been about
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+breaking any illusions that are around it's been about maximum fear and
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+confusion and really Kevin McCarran has never been about stopping anything he's
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+never said that transfection and kids would be crazy and the list really goes
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+on quite long how many people haven't said really anything useful about what
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+about what should be done with regard to this technology and they certainly
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+didn't say it with any in any useful length of time and so here we are this
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+is the epivax presentation from January 26th 2021 so put that into your time
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+frame we are about to roll out the we had already rolled out the vaccines in the
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+UK so the the the J&J and the AstraZeneca are already out and we're about to roll
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+out the mRNA and epivax is also trying to put together a vaccine candidate and
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+and they were actually working with crazy enough the University of Seattle I
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+believe or University why I don't know which one it is Mark would know where a
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+guy by the name of Biesler was working and Biesler also surprisingly had a
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+three-dimensional model of the spike like in in February or January of 2020 he had
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+a candidate vaccine ready to go based on the spike in a nanoparticle and that's
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+also where Sohomish County man just happened to be so epivax is a company
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+who for whom Robert Malone was a consultant for a very long time from
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+2005 to 2018 or something like this and epivax is also a a company that has
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+worked with Abcellular which is this this
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+which is this company in Canada that is developing antibodies or finding them
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+with this new technology that we watched yesterday so I want to watch this
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+video because in this video they're going to discuss the methodological
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+technology that is epivax and I think it's really Mark sent me a video this
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+morning from was it eight years ago or something like that where this lady is
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+also talking about this technology on a news program and I thought to watch that
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+one now but actually I'm gonna watch that one with Mark sometime and invite him
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+to watch it because it's an older one and she makes some crazy references this
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+one has a lot more biology and it's I thought it'd be more appropriate for a
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+study hall and I can take some notes and then give my voice a little bit of
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+rest in between but not that it really needs rest the only reason why sometimes
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+sound doesn't come out I think is because there's that flap of skin or
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+tissue or whatever it was that was full of blood and then it emptied so it's
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+kind of still there but I mean I don't I don't hear it sometimes but it's not
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+like it was I could never do that yesterday I mean it's it's crazy how
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+happy I am to have my voice back so let's see if it's here yes it is great
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+thank you guys for joining me tonight I know that I am the CEO and CSO heavy
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+acts incorporated and I'll be talking to you today about prediction and
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+validation of immunogenicity and tolerance to generic peptides and
+
+24:25.040 --> 24:35.600
+impurities clearly this refers to the FDA draft guidance in which the FDA
+
+24:35.600 --> 24:42.920
+requested sponsors to identify impurities in their generic drug products
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+that were above a certain percentage of the final drug product and and their
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+request and validation sorry I missed the title too
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+hey everyone this is Annie DeGroote I am the CEO and CSO heavy-vax
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+incorporated and I'll be talking to you today about prediction and validation of
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+immunogenicity and tolerance to generic peptides and impurities clearly this
+
+25:17.560 --> 25:25.640
+refers to the FDA draft guidance in which the FDA requested sponsors to identify
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+impurities in their generic drug products that were above a certain
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+percentage of the final drug product and and their request related to the
+
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+identification of T cell epitopes shown in this slide that could be present in
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+the impurities in the drug product it turns out that we've been working in the
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+field of immunogenicity risk assessment focusing on peptides and
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+proteins and their T cell epitopes for the last 20 years so we developed a
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+comprehensive program for assessing the immunogenicity risk of peptide
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+26:06.000 --> 26:11.120
+impurities building on decades of experience with biologics this program
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+is called the panda program for peptide accelerated new drug application no and
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+one of the things that I want to point out here is that this T cell epitope thing
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+that she's speaking about is actually very serious the reason why I think it's
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+serious is because in 2020 late 2020 when people were still screaming about the
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+spike protein being a designed protein and I was still playing along it really
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+felt like to me that one possibility was that they lied about the virus but they
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+they lied to the extent to which they actually lied about the spike and so
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+the spike was a designed spike on purpose with the idea that okay we're
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+gonna lie about this virus but then we're gonna say that it has this spike and
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+this spike protein we're gonna use it for the vaccine and why because we've
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+already altered it we've already added a couple let's say universal T cell
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+epitopes so that we know that this spike protein will generate antibodies and
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+more importantly we can predict with a reasonably high accuracy what antibodies
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+they will produce or at least what epitopes they will target and so then
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+all you really need to know is how that epitope will be evaluated and
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+represented given the different HLA subtypes of a particular person and
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+that's what she's talking about for 20 years they've been working on finding the
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+T cell epitopes that are chosen by your immune system when exposed to
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+proteins and trying to see if there's some pattern based on the HLA receptors
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+of the animal or the human what is the pattern of T cell epitope selection and
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+is that pattern predictable and she's been working on it for a very long time
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+now the reason why I find it enticing is because before I got to clones and
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+28:26.580 --> 28:31.080
+swarm and all this other stuff and I was still really playing along with the idea
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+that it was a lab leak and something is spreading around which again is still a
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+possibility that the idea would be to lie about the sequence so that you could
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+get your guaranteed shoe in immunogen into the vaccine and so you could imagine
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+this story where you everybody insists that this spike bro spike bro spike
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+protein all the time and all these people are laughing because while the spike
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+protein is being portrayed as this evil evil protein it's really not it's a
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+design protein guaranteed to produce seroprevalence and even more importantly
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+it could be guaranteed to produce seroprevalence on many serial exposures
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+29:22.960 --> 29:28.200
+because it's a T cell epitope that in theory the immune system would have a
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+harder time ignoring it and that's the product that's the that's the product
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+design from a vaccine designer's perspective that's the product design
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+you want because the NIH says that antibodies are the indication of immunity
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+and the antibodies are how they're going to measure the effectiveness of your
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+product and so if you have a product where you can you can administer it
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+multiple times and every time you get a good robust antibody response it's the
+
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+ideal vaccine and so what she has been working on with this company basically
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+for 20 years is that this ability to hijack what the T cells are doing and
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+30:15.640 --> 30:22.640
+force them to react and it's doing it by selecting these epitopes out of the
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+30:22.640 --> 30:26.520
+natural proteins and looking at the responses and screening them and using
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+30:26.520 --> 30:33.120
+computational approaches to narrow down see it's still there to the proteins
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+that will that will produce this I'm sure it's just scar tissue that's got to
+
+30:38.760 --> 30:44.480
+work his way out now I mean maybe my voice will get even lower peptide
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+accelerated new drug application and the methods that I'm going to describe
+
+30:51.000 --> 30:56.440
+today are published in this recent compendium of methods in immunogenicity
+
+30:56.440 --> 31:03.600
+risk assessment that was written by a group of members of the APS therapeutic
+
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+protein immunogenicity group so please refer to this article for additional
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+31:10.000 --> 31:14.720
+details on the assays and in silico tools that I'll be talking about today
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+members of the team that work with me include Brian Roberts who's the associate
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+31:21.200 --> 31:26.240
+scientific director and manager of the protein therapeutics program at Epivax
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+31:26.240 --> 31:30.880
+Francis Terry who is the director of analysis and immuno informatics at
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+31:30.880 --> 31:35.200
+epivax and Bill Martin who is co-founder of epivax and the architect of our
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+in silico tools of course I would be remiss not to mention the epivax panda
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+31:41.240 --> 31:45.240
+team members who work in the laboratory to do the validation of the in silico
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+31:45.240 --> 31:51.000
+predictions that we make and they are listed here on this slide my talk will be
+
+31:51.000 --> 31:56.760
+divided in four parts first why do immunogenicity screening peptides what
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+what is it about these impurities that could generate a T cell response how to
+
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+do it in silico and in vitro and I'll be describing the special tools that we
+
+32:06.520 --> 32:11.040
+have that evaluate tolerance and help find T reg epitopes I will also be
+
+32:11.040 --> 32:17.080
+describing some case studies that we recent T regulatory epitopes boy oh boy
+
+32:17.120 --> 32:21.920
+they're really they're doing it all like this is exactly what before I knew
+
+32:21.920 --> 32:28.840
+that's company existed I would have said that you need to be working on and so now
+
+32:28.840 --> 32:34.920
+you just imagine just imagine remember Robert Malone has been consulting with
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+all of these companies that are in a position like absolera to make
+
+32:40.520 --> 32:46.400
+antibodies with mRNA she is in a position to make small peptides with
+
+32:46.400 --> 32:56.680
+mRNA so it's all kind of the same next generation game and now I might be going
+
+32:56.680 --> 33:00.720
+out on a limb here when I say this but it almost seems like that's the whole game
+
+33:00.720 --> 33:07.560
+that was the whole game all they have to do is preserve the national security
+
+33:07.560 --> 33:12.600
+priority of vaccinating against covid and then all they got to do is make the
+
+33:12.600 --> 33:19.120
+first generation of covid vaccines kind of lame and now guess what we need new
+
+33:19.120 --> 33:24.040
+vaccines for covid and those new vaccines will be much better because we
+
+33:24.040 --> 33:29.080
+won't use this silly spike protein we'll just use a few T cell epitopes or we'll
+
+33:29.080 --> 33:36.480
+we'll just make the antibodies and so after four years of brainwashing
+
+33:36.480 --> 33:41.200
+everybody or 40 years of brainwashing everybody the antibodies are important
+
+33:41.680 --> 33:45.440
+they've finally gotten around to saying well we'll just find the antibody and
+
+33:45.440 --> 33:51.400
+make the RNA and code for it that's not gonna work there's lots of reasons why
+
+33:51.400 --> 33:54.840
+that's not gonna work and we'll talk about that over the next weeks but I'm
+
+33:54.840 --> 34:00.120
+just trying to let you know that this sounds like reasonable immunology it
+
+34:00.120 --> 34:06.560
+sounds like really smack on point immunology that you we should have we
+
+34:06.560 --> 34:11.560
+should have been hearing so now the question I'm just burping from drinking
+
+34:11.560 --> 34:21.440
+too much if the question is how deceptive is she gonna be about antibodies and
+
+34:21.440 --> 34:27.800
+T cells how deceptive is she gonna be about the order in which those memories
+
+34:27.800 --> 34:33.400
+are made I think she's gonna have to do some hand waving here because she can't
+
+34:33.400 --> 34:37.640
+be too aggressive and say that actually the whole immune system is T cells and
+
+34:37.640 --> 34:43.440
+antibodies are dumb she can't say that but I'm sure that when they're in their
+
+34:43.440 --> 34:46.680
+own offices that's what they're always thinking they're always thinking that
+
+34:46.680 --> 34:50.640
+well yeah but anybody's come from T cells I mean they they require T cell
+
+34:50.640 --> 34:54.040
+help and all this other stuff and T regulatory cells to down like it I mean
+
+34:54.040 --> 34:58.120
+she obviously knows that so it's gonna be a good talk it's only 30 minutes long
+
+34:58.120 --> 35:02.720
+I'll try not to interrupt it anymore we completed under an FDA contract on
+
+35:02.720 --> 35:07.440
+calcitonin and terraperitide impurities and we'll show you some of the
+
+35:07.440 --> 35:14.200
+interesting findings that we uncovered while doing those projects now I'm gonna
+
+35:14.200 --> 35:19.920
+be primarily focusing on in silico so I do want to go over how a peptide drug
+
+35:19.920 --> 35:24.880
+impurity can potentially be presented to a T cell so that's illustrated in this
+
+35:24.880 --> 35:29.320
+slide here you can see a peptide drug which could be up to 50 amino acids in
+
+35:29.320 --> 35:34.720
+length and a peptide impurity which contains a modification to the amino acid
+
+35:34.720 --> 35:40.840
+sequence notice that this impurity is shorter mainly because in the antigen
+
+35:40.840 --> 35:45.640
+presenting cell it will be processed down to the length that will be presented on
+
+35:45.640 --> 35:50.720
+the surface of the HLA binding molecule on the surface of the antigen presenting
+
+35:50.720 --> 35:56.220
+cell the these so I'm I gotta say I'm actually confused because they're talking
+
+35:56.220 --> 36:00.300
+about impurities so that's I guess you produce proteins and there's a certain
+
+36:00.300 --> 36:05.140
+amount of impurities and so what she's trying to figure out how these impurities
+
+36:05.140 --> 36:11.260
+cause T cell activation this is like bait and switch and what she's trying to
+
+36:11.260 --> 36:17.660
+explain and what she's trying to talk around I'm sure of it is that T cell
+
+36:17.660 --> 36:22.220
+epitopes are only about nine amino acids long and so these very short
+
+36:22.300 --> 36:27.260
+proteins are actually extremely dangerous because they have a propensity to
+
+36:27.260 --> 36:34.140
+easily be presented as antigens unlike the larger proteins which need to be
+
+36:34.140 --> 36:38.820
+brought in and then process down to smaller fragments and then that process
+
+36:38.820 --> 36:46.140
+and this is the trick that process is the responsibility of this mature antigen
+
+36:46.140 --> 36:52.140
+presenting cell it's a process that we don't understand and so the larger
+
+36:52.140 --> 37:00.300
+protein goes in that's this one and it gets it gets processed by the antigen
+
+37:00.300 --> 37:05.220
+presenting cell and it's something we don't understand what she has noticed
+
+37:05.220 --> 37:10.740
+and pharmacological producers of biologics have noticed is that the
+
+37:11.100 --> 37:16.860
+impurities the small peptides are the ones that tend to generate the immune
+
+37:16.860 --> 37:21.180
+response and that's because of this and the way that the processing in a in a
+
+37:21.180 --> 37:28.180
+mature antigen presenting cell works if you don't give it anything to break down
+
+37:28.180 --> 37:34.540
+then there's nothing really to do but present and I'm not speaking from knowledge
+
+37:34.860 --> 37:41.500
+here I'm I'm imagining based on what I understand of antigen presentation and
+
+37:41.500 --> 37:48.580
+the the sorting of an antigen to the epitope that you present to the T cells
+
+37:48.580 --> 37:54.140
+and that selection process is extremely important in what she and her epivax
+
+37:54.140 --> 37:58.940
+company have been doing over the last decades is trying to figure that process
+
+37:58.940 --> 38:06.460
+out what parts of peptides are regularly chosen as T cell epitopes and how does
+
+38:06.460 --> 38:13.580
+that interplay connect with HLA diversity HLA being the MHC receptor that is used
+
+38:13.580 --> 38:22.100
+by them and by T cells to to compare notes so to speak if you just join me I
+
+38:22.100 --> 38:29.180
+hear a look a bunch of people there just join me yes a polyp or a blister or
+
+38:29.180 --> 38:35.980
+some kind of growth in my throat exploded today on a cough it filled my mouth
+
+38:35.980 --> 38:41.900
+with blood I spit it out on the garage floor I looked at my son and I said the
+
+38:41.900 --> 38:48.140
+words I might need some help and it came out like I might need some help and my
+
+38:48.180 --> 38:54.100
+voice was back and so I actually haven't had this voice this exact voice I don't
+
+38:54.100 --> 39:00.820
+think in maybe six years it started to go away when I was on my bike and it's
+
+39:00.820 --> 39:06.700
+just slowly gone worse in the last couple years it really went awful and I think
+
+39:06.700 --> 39:11.420
+it was this thing this I don't know what it was I haven't been to the doctor I
+
+39:11.420 --> 39:18.460
+don't know all I know is I'm not feeling any real pain if I cough it's a little
+
+39:18.460 --> 39:23.500
+painful but if I'm talking it feels fine and I don't need the best thing is I
+
+39:23.500 --> 39:27.420
+don't need to force any air through my voice box anymore I'm not running out of
+
+39:27.420 --> 39:31.900
+breath you can hear me right now I still when I breathe there's this little thing
+
+39:31.900 --> 39:38.380
+in there I don't know if it's loose skin or what it is that you hear it but it
+
+39:38.860 --> 39:43.780
+doesn't it doesn't stop me that thing was waking me up at night it was blocking
+
+39:43.780 --> 39:48.700
+my breathing at night and and I was actually having sleep dapnea for the
+
+39:48.700 --> 39:54.740
+last two and a half months or something so that's all the reason why my my my
+
+39:54.740 --> 39:58.900
+health has been going downstream or downhill very rapidly and I think this
+
+39:58.900 --> 40:02.660
+is gonna be a huge turnaround because of anything I'm gonna get sleep now sorry
+
+40:02.660 --> 40:09.620
+back to T cell activation peptides can be anywhere between 8 or 9 to 15 to 20
+
+40:09.620 --> 40:12.540
+amino acids in the length when they're presented on the surface of the cell
+
+40:12.540 --> 40:19.020
+but the key sequence that binds into the HLA molecule binding groove is about
+
+40:19.020 --> 40:24.020
+9 amino acids in length the side chains of the peptide will bind into the
+
+40:24.020 --> 40:27.580
+binding pockets and you can well imagine that a peptide drug that has a
+
+40:27.580 --> 40:32.020
+modification of one of its residues may not bind with the same affinity or may
+
+40:32.020 --> 40:37.780
+bind with a different affinity than the active pharmaceutical ingredient or the
+
+40:37.780 --> 40:43.180
+API in this picture on the right-hand side I've illustrated for you in in an
+
+40:43.180 --> 40:50.820
+EM electron microscope a picture the interaction with T cell it's receptor
+
+40:50.820 --> 40:55.340
+which you can't even see on this slide and the antigen presenting cell that's
+
+40:55.340 --> 40:59.260
+presenting HLA you can see that there's probably a very close fit between those
+
+40:59.260 --> 41:04.300
+two cells and what the T cell is coming down to see is the peptide lying in a
+
+41:04.300 --> 41:10.780
+linear fashion in the HLA molecule and there is a face that faces down and binds
+
+41:10.780 --> 41:15.820
+to the HLA that's called the epitope and there's sorry the agritope and there's a
+
+41:15.820 --> 41:19.860
+face that faces up to the T cell receptor and that's called the epitope the
+
+41:19.860 --> 41:23.860
+epitope is what drives the T cell response and that can be good or bad
+
+41:23.860 --> 41:30.700
+depending on which T cell is responding so why do impurities affect the T cell
+
+41:30.700 --> 41:35.380
+response to peptide drug well let's take our API and now let's make some
+
+41:35.380 --> 41:41.020
+modification and to it the way that they would occur in a synth in a synthetic
+
+41:41.020 --> 41:47.820
+process you could have truncations that could remove peptide T cell epitopes you
+
+41:47.820 --> 41:52.780
+could have amino acid deletions that change the sequence so that the frame of
+
+41:52.780 --> 41:57.260
+the nimer is disturbed and if there is a T cell epitope there it's no longer
+
+41:57.260 --> 42:02.500
+gonna bind in the HLA molecule you could have an amino acid insertion which
+
+42:02.500 --> 42:06.940
+could change the side chain that's binding into the HLA molecule or it
+
+42:06.940 --> 42:10.900
+could actually shift everything over and I'll show show you that disturbing the
+
+42:10.900 --> 42:16.500
+binding frame you could have amino acid duplications which again shift the
+
+42:16.500 --> 42:21.460
+binding frame of T cell epitopes and you could also have incorporation of
+
+42:21.460 --> 42:27.700
+unusual amino acids such as stereoisomers or side chain modifications which also
+
+42:27.700 --> 42:32.340
+interfere with the binding of the peptide to the HLA molecule and that's
+
+42:32.340 --> 42:36.580
+what's illustrated in greater detail on this slide I've already mentioned that
+
+42:36.580 --> 42:41.380
+there's a an agritope side of the T cell epitope that might be in your peptide
+
+42:41.380 --> 42:48.860
+drug and there is an epitope side which faces up to the T cell receptor there
+
+42:48.860 --> 42:52.780
+are specific amino acids that bind to the HLA and there so this is interesting
+
+42:52.780 --> 42:57.860
+I've never seen this biology before apparently the HLA receptor interacts
+
+42:57.860 --> 43:05.380
+with certain amino acids of the epitope and the the T cell react so I don't know
+
+43:05.380 --> 43:08.940
+if this would be like their functional groups that would stick out this way or
+
+43:08.940 --> 43:14.420
+their charged groups that would stick out this way it's a very interesting way of
+
+43:14.820 --> 43:21.500
+and she's portraying that in every picture which I guess I got to read because I
+
+43:21.500 --> 43:26.820
+didn't know that they knew this much about how antibodies were interesting
+
+43:26.820 --> 43:32.060
+we're here in this slide and other ones that bind up that face the T cell
+
+43:32.060 --> 43:37.100
+receptor that is recognized by the T cell let's now introduce a duplication of
+
+43:37.100 --> 43:42.740
+an amino acid of position two and you can imagine that a peptide that once
+
+43:42.820 --> 43:48.780
+found to HLA now that you've shifted the frame over by one position no longer
+
+43:48.780 --> 43:53.620
+presents side chains that bind down into the HLA binding group so that peptide
+
+43:53.620 --> 43:59.220
+will no longer bind to the HLA molecule that may be good if there was a T cell
+
+43:59.220 --> 44:02.700
+response there you would obviously potentially lose it because the peptide
+
+44:02.700 --> 44:06.900
+will no longer bind if there was however a T cell response that could
+
+44:06.900 --> 44:11.580
+induce a suppressor immune response a regulatory T cell then you might not
+
+44:11.620 --> 44:16.820
+want to lose that signal in your peptide drug so let's look at the
+
+44:16.820 --> 44:22.140
+converse maybe you have a sequence that doesn't bind so did you hear what she
+
+44:22.140 --> 44:28.660
+said and this is really key she said that if you have a a mutation in or a
+
+44:28.660 --> 44:32.660
+deletion that gets rid of your T regulatory response you might not want
+
+44:32.660 --> 44:37.940
+that and why not because we've talked about this before the basics of the T
+
+44:37.980 --> 44:43.540
+cell response are such that the T cell response ramps up the inflammation
+
+44:43.540 --> 44:49.100
+ramps up the immune response and a corresponding T regulatory cell
+
+44:49.100 --> 44:54.260
+response that recognizes many of the same epitopes is responsible for the
+
+44:54.260 --> 45:00.220
+day crescendo and so if you only have T cell epitopes which stimulate T cells
+
+45:00.220 --> 45:05.060
+but not T regulatory cells then you'll have this imbalance induced by your
+
+45:05.060 --> 45:08.820
+biologic I think that's what she's talking about here and it's really
+
+45:08.820 --> 45:15.740
+curious to hear someone talk so focused on T cells and not realize that that
+
+45:15.740 --> 45:20.980
+all of these vaccines that are being sold distributed whatever I just don't
+
+45:20.980 --> 45:25.660
+don't even look at this it's not even on their radar I guess that's what makes
+
+45:25.660 --> 45:30.140
+their that's what makes this company so good to see you can hear my voice is
+
+45:30.140 --> 45:34.420
+not the other thing I have to tell you is that because that ball was in the back
+
+45:34.460 --> 45:37.420
+of my throat I haven't been able to get all the mucus out of my lungs like I
+
+45:37.420 --> 45:41.060
+should have so I'm probably going to need to cough a lot of stuff out over the
+
+45:41.060 --> 45:45.180
+next few days and maybe that'll give me more wind too I don't know but I can
+
+45:45.180 --> 45:51.540
+tell you that my voice is rattling around in my voice box and in my jaw in a way
+
+45:51.540 --> 45:56.740
+that it hasn't done in at least five years
+
+45:56.860 --> 46:03.140
+not want to lose that signal in your peptide drug so let's look at the
+
+46:03.140 --> 46:09.020
+converse maybe you have a sequence that doesn't bind it's a particular peptide
+
+46:09.020 --> 46:13.620
+that doesn't seem to have any T-cell epitopes in it now you introduce a
+
+46:13.620 --> 46:18.620
+duplication of the amino acid in position two you've just shifted the side chains
+
+46:18.620 --> 46:24.380
+over and now you have an agritope which will bind to HLA and present an epitope
+
+46:24.380 --> 46:28.620
+to the T cell receptor that could be a new immunogenic impurity and that's
+
+46:28.620 --> 46:32.300
+exactly what we're talking about when we're concerned about impurities and
+
+46:32.380 --> 46:37.140
+their potential to trigger a T-cell response so how do we look for these
+
+46:37.140 --> 46:43.700
+T-cell epitopes we have basically a three-step process which also involves a
+
+46:43.700 --> 46:50.060
+four-step integrating everything into one overall perspective and we start always
+
+46:50.060 --> 46:54.420
+with epitope prediction because we want to look and see if the T-cell epitope is
+
+46:54.420 --> 47:01.500
+present in the API and how far from that binding kind of threshold will the
+
+47:01.540 --> 47:05.220
+impurities travel maybe you have something that has a lot of T-cell epitopes in it
+
+47:05.220 --> 47:10.300
+impurities will therefore induce a lot of new epitopes if you have something
+
+47:10.300 --> 47:14.220
+that doesn't have any T-cell epitopes in it it's hard to imagine how immunogenic
+
+47:14.220 --> 47:18.020
+that could be with the substitution of a single amino acid because that won't
+
+47:18.020 --> 47:22.620
+really change a lot about the binding capability of that T-cell of that sorry
+
+47:22.620 --> 47:28.460
+peptide sequence so we start with epitope prediction and then we validate we like
+
+47:28.460 --> 47:33.100
+to check at least HLA binding maybe the peptide is not predicted to bind will
+
+47:33.100 --> 47:39.020
+validate that in HLA binding assay just to confirm our suspicion but we also like
+
+47:39.020 --> 47:43.340
+to do T-cell assays and we can do that with naive blood because naive donors
+
+47:43.340 --> 47:47.740
+have never seen the drug or its impurities so it's similar to testing it
+
+47:47.740 --> 47:52.500
+in a patient so the the epitope prediction is the first step and then
+
+47:52.500 --> 47:57.540
+we'll start with the API sequence and then compare it to the impurities that
+
+47:57.580 --> 48:04.060
+we can look at also in silico we use the epimatrix tool it is an algorithm that
+
+48:04.060 --> 48:10.820
+has been developed over 20 plus years developed epivax it predicts both class
+
+48:10.820 --> 48:14.380
+one and class two binding potential and here we're going to be focusing focusing
+
+48:14.380 --> 48:21.860
+on class two which facilitates cytokine release as well as antibody response so
+
+48:21.860 --> 48:25.060
+that might be the the two things that you're going to be concerned about in
+
+48:25.100 --> 48:32.660
+terms of a safety signal for peptide drugs it's an algorithm that focuses on
+
+48:32.660 --> 48:38.060
+nine HLADR supertypes for the purpose of measuring immunogenicity risk why
+
+48:38.060 --> 48:42.780
+do we do that because when we look at all of the different human HLAs we can
+
+48:42.780 --> 48:47.460
+actually find that they fall into families these families share pocket
+
+48:47.460 --> 48:53.300
+preferences which side chains bind into the HLA molecule so now that we know
+
+48:53.300 --> 48:56.700
+that there are supertypes comprising families we can kind of narrow down the
+
+48:56.700 --> 49:00.980
+search space to a manageable level and find patterns that actually give help us
+
+49:00.980 --> 49:05.500
+figure out if something's going to be immunogenic or not so those are the nine
+
+49:05.500 --> 49:09.860
+supertype families that we usually work with there are certain alleles that are
+
+49:09.860 --> 49:14.940
+more common in certain populations but such as DR9 which is an Asian a couple
+
+49:14.940 --> 49:19.100
+papers there I gotta read I guess however we find that if we include all of these
+
+49:19.180 --> 49:24.740
+HLADR molecules in our search space we can get results that are representative
+
+49:24.740 --> 49:31.740
+of 95% of the human populations worldwide that's the in silico approach of course
+
+49:31.740 --> 49:36.380
+how short these sequences are here that selection and try to get a lot and so
+
+49:36.380 --> 49:39.620
+now what I want you to think about is the idea that if they wanted to make it
+
+49:39.620 --> 49:44.140
+sure thing that they would say oh there's a coronavirus out there and it's got
+
+49:44.140 --> 49:48.820
+this spike routine and they only needed to put in a couple of those just a
+
+49:48.820 --> 49:53.500
+couple and then they would be guaranteed almost guaranteed to get the right
+
+49:53.500 --> 50:01.260
+antibody response think about that think about how easy that that that trick
+
+50:01.260 --> 50:05.940
+would be to pull off given what we now know about the sequences and rule on the
+
+50:05.940 --> 50:14.340
+sequence in Washington it would be a joke and so that's actually the kind of
+
+50:14.420 --> 50:19.860
+deception that I was thinking had occurred in 2020 and then of course had
+
+50:19.860 --> 50:23.500
+all kinds of different changes in terms of how I think about it now but it's
+
+50:23.500 --> 50:27.980
+still something to consider we don't know what happened this is a crime and we
+
+50:27.980 --> 50:31.860
+still don't know how far clones would spread if you made enough of them we
+
+50:31.860 --> 50:35.140
+don't know how many people they would jump through I don't know would they
+
+50:35.140 --> 50:42.660
+really stop with the first person that inhaled them I don't know so it's it's
+
+50:42.700 --> 50:49.620
+some really interesting immunology being sold here very carefully sold here
+
+50:49.620 --> 50:55.820
+mind you but you know it's exactly what you need to start thinking about as you
+
+50:55.820 --> 51:06.220
+as you consider how the immune system works that somehow the way that she's
+
+51:06.300 --> 51:13.780
+screening for immunogenic peptides seems to not jive with the idea that we can
+
+51:13.780 --> 51:18.740
+just throw a a transfection in somebody and they'll express a protein in your
+
+51:18.740 --> 51:24.020
+immune system will be fine it doesn't really make sense from the perspective
+
+51:24.020 --> 51:30.900
+of what she's saying because small contaminants or point mutations in a
+
+51:30.900 --> 51:36.780
+biologic can be a problem so when we know all the things we know now we have
+
+51:36.780 --> 51:41.860
+to really who the hell oh my goodness he doesn't even know I'm online Matthew
+
+51:41.860 --> 51:47.300
+Crawford is calling me on signal that is interesting I'm not gonna take that
+
+51:47.300 --> 51:53.140
+call though thank you very much I'm gonna keep this going actually well I
+
+51:53.140 --> 51:55.780
+don't know I'm gonna speed it up because I don't know how much she's really gonna
+
+51:55.780 --> 52:00.780
+do and I wanted to watch this other two-minute video of her where she's
+
+52:00.780 --> 52:03.820
+talking a little more silly because she's on the nightly news and it's only a
+
+52:03.820 --> 52:08.620
+two-minute video so anyway I'll leave it like this I think it would go a little
+
+52:08.620 --> 52:11.060
+faster.
+
+52:11.060 --> 52:14.460
+Located coverage of each HLA allele so probably 30 to 50 patients is really the
+
+52:14.460 --> 52:19.140
+ideal number of patients to be testing in an in vitro assay. Now screening peptide
+
+52:19.140 --> 52:21.820
+in silica we do look at it this way we basically parse it into nine we're
+
+52:21.820 --> 52:24.660
+overlapping frames and then we're gonna look at each overlapping frame for its
+
+52:24.660 --> 52:28.020
+predicted affinity to bind to specific HLA alleles here the nine super types
+
+52:28.020 --> 52:31.180
+that we've described. Notice in this picture that we see several nine
+
+52:31.180 --> 52:35.220
+reframes that bind promiscuously across HLA alleles and those are highlighted in
+
+52:35.220 --> 52:37.660
+yellow those are what we call epibars they're promiscuous T cell epitopes
+
+52:37.660 --> 52:40.680
+they're the primary drivers of an immune response and if we're making a
+
+52:40.680 --> 52:43.260
+vaccine those are great if they're in our peptide drug and they're foreign that's
+
+52:43.260 --> 52:47.220
+bad or or our impurity. They also give you the sense that the more T cell epitopes
+
+52:47.220 --> 52:50.020
+you pack into a single sequence whether they're for the same allele or other
+
+52:50.020 --> 52:53.340
+alleles in general higher epitope content is gonna drive a higher T cell
+
+52:53.340 --> 52:55.820
+response and that's what's we've observed in the literature as well as in
+
+52:55.820 --> 52:58.820
+our experience over the 20 years that we've been doing this. So we developed a
+
+52:58.820 --> 53:01.140
+ranking scale the ranking scale basically looks for the number of T cell
+
+53:01.140 --> 53:05.220
+epitopes per unit protein or peptide and we can look at how immunogenic a peptide
+
+53:05.220 --> 53:10.020
+might be for a population compared to others or for an individual. And as Mark
+
+53:10.020 --> 53:14.540
+said in the chat over ten years ago she came up with the idea of using
+
+53:14.540 --> 53:21.220
+Microsoft Word to look for these small epitopes in genetic sequences and the
+
+53:21.220 --> 53:25.260
+crazy thing is is that he found a video where she was talking to a
+
+53:25.260 --> 53:29.980
+newscaster and said well you know people started to contact us and asked us to
+
+53:29.980 --> 53:33.820
+analyze their protein sequence and at first we started with well how about a
+
+53:33.820 --> 53:37.060
+thousand dollars and they said fine so then we said how about five thousand
+
+53:37.060 --> 53:39.580
+dollars and then we were up to twenty thousand dollars and then we knew we
+
+53:39.580 --> 53:46.940
+really had a company for using Microsoft Word to search through their their
+
+53:46.980 --> 53:53.020
+genetic sequences to find T cell epitopes they had previously identified that's
+
+53:53.020 --> 53:57.300
+what we're dealing with here ladies and gentlemen this woman and people like
+
+53:57.300 --> 54:02.100
+her and that are looking to make products and looking to start companies
+
+54:02.100 --> 54:07.300
+and looking for things to from a business perspective catch on are very
+
+54:07.300 --> 54:12.500
+different than people are trying to save the world change the world or free
+
+54:12.540 --> 54:18.740
+humanity and so you have to see this for what it is you have to see Robert
+
+54:18.740 --> 54:22.940
+Malone for who he is you have to see Kevin McCurnan for who he is you have to
+
+54:22.940 --> 54:29.300
+see that these people have been swimming in this space for decades and they've
+
+54:29.300 --> 54:34.820
+been playing this game for decades the idea is to get a house on the harbor a
+
+54:34.820 --> 54:40.340
+seven thousand square foot house on the harbor the idea is to get really rich
+
+54:40.340 --> 54:47.460
+and to become famous the idea is to get the Bloomberg businessman award that's
+
+54:47.460 --> 54:54.220
+what they want that's the that's the kind of of prestige and fame and and
+
+54:54.220 --> 55:00.420
+and recognition that they want they aren't interested in giving they're not
+
+55:00.420 --> 55:05.820
+interested in teaching they're interested in making stuff that's worth stuff worth
+
+55:05.900 --> 55:11.420
+money and it is unfortunately a lot about money they measure it and their
+
+55:11.420 --> 55:15.140
+success based on money and that's what was so insightful about that interview
+
+55:15.140 --> 55:21.300
+from eight years ago with Annie is that it's she said it in such a way that it
+
+55:21.300 --> 55:26.580
+was almost like wow you're really an asshole like I went to this school and
+
+55:26.580 --> 55:30.420
+the school needed my help and so I said sure I can help you for a thousand
+
+55:30.420 --> 55:33.780
+dollars this week and they said great and so I was happy with that thousand
+
+55:33.780 --> 55:39.460
+dollars because a thousand dollars gets me through the week but then another
+
+55:39.460 --> 55:44.820
+school called me and I decided to say two thousand and they said fine and so I
+
+55:44.820 --> 55:49.260
+just did the job for two thousand and then when the next person called me I
+
+55:49.260 --> 55:52.860
+just scratched my eye wonder if they'll do it for five how about five thousand
+
+55:52.860 --> 55:58.860
+dollars and they said yes and suddenly I talked to my friend and I realized wow
+
+55:58.860 --> 56:02.700
+you know people will pay twenty thousand dollars for us to use Microsoft Word to
+
+56:02.700 --> 56:07.980
+search for nine letters in their protein sequence and we can charge five
+
+56:07.980 --> 56:15.540
+grand I wonder if we can charge twenty that's literally how this worked that's
+
+56:15.540 --> 56:24.060
+literally where epivacs came from it's no more complicated than that and yes it
+
+56:24.060 --> 56:27.140
+became more complicated of course because people threw millions of
+
+56:27.140 --> 56:32.380
+dollars at them the Bill Gates Foundation threw almost a million dollars at them
+
+56:32.380 --> 56:39.300
+many years ago already it's a really really interesting thing look now they
+
+56:39.300 --> 56:45.260
+have a pandemic sorry a peptide immunogenic scale it's kind of like the
+
+56:45.260 --> 56:51.300
+scoval rating of peppers I guess and here you go a 20 mer that's 20 amino
+
+56:51.300 --> 56:58.860
+acids theoretically minimum right and then all these guys have many many many
+
+56:59.300 --> 57:06.580
+potential T cell activating or HLA binding short sequences and so they're
+
+57:06.580 --> 57:12.180
+more immunogenic now if they if they have this idea already in their head for 10
+
+57:12.180 --> 57:17.580
+years then it's very easy to put the let's say where where where is where does
+
+57:17.580 --> 57:24.620
+the coronavirus spike protein fit in here not this one but the other ones it's
+
+57:24.660 --> 57:29.660
+not on here is it pretty convenient you see why we're this is exactly the story
+
+57:29.660 --> 57:36.220
+this is exactly where immunology should be where I expected it to be and now
+
+57:36.220 --> 57:41.460
+that we find it we have to understand why it's here what were these people doing
+
+57:41.460 --> 57:47.100
+before and after the pandemic and what does it mean going forward knowing that
+
+57:47.100 --> 57:53.380
+all of these Canadian companies were connected to American companies and
+
+57:53.420 --> 58:00.300
+connected to DARPA and a lot of these companies had a red thread of Robert
+
+58:00.300 --> 58:07.940
+Malone as an advisor it's just not possible for this to be random we have
+
+58:07.940 --> 58:14.540
+finally stumbled upon the joke the first generation of mRNA vaccines and the
+
+58:14.540 --> 58:20.180
+second generation of mRNA vaccines and that's probably been their long game
+
+58:20.180 --> 58:24.900
+plan all along whether or not Robert Malone was supposed to come out and
+
+58:24.900 --> 58:29.180
+and play shell games with everybody I don't really know but that's what that's
+
+58:29.180 --> 58:35.460
+where it had to go and to what extent we forced it to go there I don't know but
+
+58:35.460 --> 58:41.380
+we are definitely pushing the apple cart now we are definitely pushing the
+
+58:41.380 --> 58:45.340
+apple cart now we know genicity can be ranked here I'm analyzing the overall
+
+58:45.340 --> 58:48.660
+immunogenicity of generic peptide drugs compared to some well-known immunogenic
+
+58:48.660 --> 58:51.260
+peptides which are on the left-hand side of my scale from tennis talks and
+
+58:51.260 --> 58:54.780
+influenza EVV and you can see that the generic peptides which are generally
+
+58:54.780 --> 58:58.300
+derived from self peptides tend to be lower on that scale the scale is set to
+
+58:58.300 --> 59:01.940
+be zero for the average or median of a set of more than a hundred thousand
+
+59:01.940 --> 59:04.860
+random peptide sequences so you can see that there's a distribution things that
+
+59:04.860 --> 59:08.180
+are high on this scale could be expected to be more immunogenic than a random
+
+59:08.180 --> 59:10.980
+peptide by random chance and things that are lower on the scale are predicted to
+
+59:10.980 --> 59:14.420
+be less immunogenic than a random peptide found by random chance so okay
+
+59:14.420 --> 59:18.180
+maybe I'm just gonna stop this and I'm gonna look for the other video because I
+
+59:18.460 --> 59:25.100
+hold on let me just I'm gonna copy this because I think I watched it right
+
+59:25.100 --> 59:34.420
+before this video and so I should be able to go back here as efforts are
+
+59:34.420 --> 59:37.260
+underway worldwide trying find a way to stop this virus a local company is
+
+59:37.260 --> 59:40.620
+helping in the efforts working to create a vaccine okay hold on Logan
+
+59:40.620 --> 59:45.740
+Wilbur joins us now from Providence tonight with the story this is great so
+
+59:45.740 --> 59:51.740
+this is a an interview with her right at the start of the pandemic and now
+
+59:51.740 --> 59:55.100
+there's too much that goes on in this two minutes so I'm gonna have to stop it
+
+59:55.100 --> 01:00:01.460
+a lot but you're just not gonna believe it now you try your best and bring your
+
+01:00:01.460 --> 01:00:09.140
+most trained critical ears to this interview and bang on your own table
+
+01:00:09.140 --> 01:00:15.180
+every time you hear something you you simply can't believe she says from the
+
+01:00:15.180 --> 01:00:19.020
+outside this brick building in Onlyville may not look like much but people
+
+01:00:19.020 --> 01:00:24.100
+inside are working to find a possible solution to the coronavirus
+
+01:00:24.100 --> 01:00:29.540
+Providence based epivacs is working on two coronavirus vaccines with one focus
+
+01:00:29.540 --> 01:00:33.420
+on protecting health care workers they're the first line of defense against the
+
+01:00:33.420 --> 01:00:37.540
+virus and we want to give them something that will actually generate what we
+
+01:00:37.540 --> 01:00:41.660
+would call immune system body armor will give them a protection we asked Dr.
+
+01:00:41.660 --> 01:00:46.100
+Andy Groot to explain how vaccines work using a virus most people are
+
+01:00:46.100 --> 01:00:50.900
+familiar with the flu you have pre-existing immunity that allows your
+
+01:00:50.900 --> 01:00:55.980
+immune systems to go oh I see flu here I see a word that says flu I'm gonna help
+
+01:00:55.980 --> 01:01:00.020
+my immune system respond and make a lot of antibody which is exactly what the
+
+01:01:00.020 --> 01:01:05.100
+epivacs vaccine does it generates that immune memory you need that immune
+
+01:01:05.100 --> 01:01:08.620
+memory in order to generate an effective immune response currently without a
+
+01:01:08.620 --> 01:01:13.540
+vaccine Dr. DeGroot calls the coronavirus very dangerous this virus is
+
+01:01:13.540 --> 01:01:23.140
+killing somewhere between two to four people per 100 two to four people per
+
+01:01:23.140 --> 01:01:32.540
+100 three to four percent are dying of this virus is that not exactly the worst
+
+01:01:32.540 --> 01:01:38.540
+case scenario is that not exactly the bullshit that we're trying to fight
+
+01:01:38.540 --> 01:01:44.540
+right now it's not it was the protocols it was then do not resuscitate orders
+
+01:01:44.540 --> 01:01:50.020
+and she's a hundred percent on narrative it's killing between three and four
+
+01:01:50.020 --> 01:01:55.140
+people out of every 100 and no everyone is vulnerable listen that's very
+
+01:01:55.140 --> 01:02:01.620
+different from influenza where it's it's 10 to 50 fold higher so while there is a
+
+01:02:01.620 --> 01:02:05.860
+comparison to the flu as to why vaccines are important to solving this pandemic
+
+01:02:05.860 --> 01:02:10.300
+as the mortality rate shows the two are not alike I think there's a tendency to
+
+01:02:10.300 --> 01:02:15.380
+kind of not take this seriously and that's because people have said it's like
+
+01:02:15.380 --> 01:02:19.420
+the flu so we you know maybe we're somewhat immune to the flu but in
+
+01:02:19.420 --> 01:02:24.020
+actuality it's not like flu in that way we need to build the immunity through
+
+01:02:24.020 --> 01:02:33.060
+vaccines and vaccines are extremely important Wow I mean wow that's just
+
+01:02:33.060 --> 01:02:39.780
+complete hogwash it is nonsense it's ridiculous but she's saying it and it's
+
+01:02:39.780 --> 01:02:45.300
+not it's not unusual you just have to understand that as we look backwards and
+
+01:02:45.300 --> 01:02:51.620
+we actually take stock of what was happening at this time in 2020 it's
+
+01:02:51.620 --> 01:02:57.060
+going to become more and more painfully obvious that some of these people she's
+
+01:02:57.060 --> 01:03:01.460
+smiling in this damn interview the whole time because she's excited about the
+
+01:03:01.540 --> 01:03:06.380
+possibility that she's about to make a billion dollars there's a possibility
+
+01:03:06.380 --> 01:03:11.980
+that she still will make a billion dollars with the next one they're all
+
+01:03:11.980 --> 01:03:16.300
+excited about the possibility that they're going to go from zero to a billion in
+
+01:03:16.300 --> 01:03:25.020
+a year it's exactly what the video of the absolera CEO was titled you don't
+
+01:03:25.020 --> 01:03:30.140
+think all these people start dreaming about that the moment that it becomes
+
+01:03:30.140 --> 01:03:34.780
+possible the moment that somebody whispers in their ear this might be an
+
+01:03:34.780 --> 01:03:44.140
+IPO you don't think that happens I'm sure it does and I'm sure that this woman
+
+01:03:44.140 --> 01:03:49.060
+has been trying to get a hold of one of those hot air balloons for some time
+
+01:03:49.060 --> 01:03:54.340
+venture capital hot air balloon I mean I'd be happy to have someone invest a
+
+01:03:54.340 --> 01:04:00.460
+million dollars in gigo and biological to make sure that all of this you know
+
+01:04:00.460 --> 01:04:09.140
+live up-to-date coverage of pandemic mythology continues and I'm sure I would
+
+01:04:09.140 --> 01:04:15.940
+accept it greatly but it's not the reason why I'm doing it it's not the
+
+01:04:15.940 --> 01:04:21.460
+actual goal which is the actual goal of a company like this and was the actual
+
+01:04:21.500 --> 01:04:25.580
+goal of her spin-out company and the exact goal of all of these companies is
+
+01:04:25.580 --> 01:04:31.780
+to eventually go public and become worth five billion dollars that's the dream
+
+01:04:31.780 --> 01:04:41.100
+of every biologist at their bench or at least the ones that think like her
+
+01:04:41.100 --> 01:04:45.340
+you're not thinking about saving the world you're not thinking about making a
+
+01:04:45.340 --> 01:04:50.980
+therapeutic that everybody can afford you're thinking about making yourself
+
+01:04:50.980 --> 01:04:57.580
+rich and famous and Dr. DeGroote tells me we could see a vaccine and as
+
+01:04:57.580 --> 01:05:02.100
+little as five to six months but that all depends on funding she says she's
+
+01:05:02.100 --> 01:05:05.580
+going to ask the federal government to help with that more than three hundred
+
+01:05:05.580 --> 01:05:10.340
+million dollars needed to ensure both the safety and efficiency of the vaccine
+
+01:05:10.340 --> 01:05:15.660
+in Providence Logan Wilbur Eyewitness News she's gonna ask for three million
+
+01:05:15.660 --> 01:05:24.380
+dollars holy shit three hundred million dollars holy cow excuse me they do have
+
+01:05:24.380 --> 01:05:30.020
+the identical T-cell receptor-facing residues and bind to the same HLA the
+
+01:05:30.020 --> 01:05:34.140
+T-cell probably wouldn't be able to differentiate between that human GPI
+
+01:05:34.140 --> 01:05:37.140
+I'm gonna go back here and speed it up they can actually they can go up so if
+
+01:05:37.140 --> 01:05:40.460
+they're in the red zone we would be concerned if they're in the green zone
+
+01:05:40.460 --> 01:05:44.100
+we probably wouldn't even do a T-cell assay or an in vitro binding assay because
+
+01:05:44.100 --> 01:05:48.260
+we would imagine that peptide would be very low risk so furthermore we have
+
+01:05:48.260 --> 01:05:51.020
+other tools that allow us to screen for those happy bars of customers one such
+
+01:05:51.020 --> 01:05:55.140
+tool that finds regions of high epitope density in a protein or peptide sequence
+
+01:05:55.140 --> 01:05:57.940
+it's very important to find these okay now make sure that you understand what
+
+01:05:57.940 --> 01:06:03.540
+we're watching here she is assembling a software stack so there was a software
+
+01:06:03.540 --> 01:06:07.860
+that she was using earlier and now that was called panda or something like that
+
+01:06:07.860 --> 01:06:13.980
+now there's customer and you cannot underestimate how this is the business
+
+01:06:13.980 --> 01:06:19.820
+model it is very very similar to abcellular which is basically a stack of
+
+01:06:19.820 --> 01:06:27.900
+IA machine learning programs which can use the data that's gathered in their
+
+01:06:27.900 --> 01:06:32.500
+single-cell machines to do what it is they say they're doing which is
+
+01:06:32.500 --> 01:06:35.980
+identifying antibodies that are important and finding the B cells that
+
+01:06:35.980 --> 01:06:42.140
+are producing in them this is this is the same kind of screening it's screening
+
+01:06:42.140 --> 01:06:46.540
+the genetic sequence and they're they they're doing the same thing with
+
+01:06:46.540 --> 01:06:55.340
+antibodies it's a sequence and and they're using software to do it and so they
+
+01:06:55.340 --> 01:07:02.860
+make this patented software stack through which your biologic gets washed and
+
+01:07:02.860 --> 01:07:09.460
+what comes out is a patentable biologic because you washed it through this
+
+01:07:09.460 --> 01:07:17.180
+software stack and I think that that there are people who are right when they
+
+01:07:17.180 --> 01:07:20.500
+say that they hope that the mRNA would go better I think there are people that
+
+01:07:20.500 --> 01:07:25.180
+there were probably people that didn't think that it would go as bad as it has
+
+01:07:25.180 --> 01:07:31.820
+both from the perspective of coverage and the side effects I actually think
+
+01:07:31.820 --> 01:07:36.500
+they thought it would go better and I think Mark is also on this page at this
+
+01:07:36.500 --> 01:07:40.380
+stage where he thinks that sort of the cancers and all this other stuff it
+
+01:07:40.380 --> 01:07:45.260
+doesn't seem like very many people were anticipating this one of the ways that
+
+01:07:45.260 --> 01:07:51.020
+Mark has shown me of looking at this is going to the stock prices of cancer
+
+01:07:51.020 --> 01:07:56.300
+companies and you can see that they didn't rise ahead of this they certainly
+
+01:07:56.300 --> 01:08:01.540
+didn't rise before the pandemic like some other companies did and so it's
+
+01:08:01.620 --> 01:08:08.260
+possible that we are so off-script right now that we have a chance to actually
+
+01:08:08.260 --> 01:08:13.620
+change the direction of the cruise ship it's possible and I think that if you
+
+01:08:13.620 --> 01:08:18.780
+listen to this session where she talks so confidently about this technology and
+
+01:08:18.780 --> 01:08:23.100
+then we realize that this technology didn't even make it it didn't even make
+
+01:08:23.100 --> 01:08:29.020
+it to production what does that mean does that mean it's still waiting does
+
+01:08:29.060 --> 01:08:33.500
+that mean this is gonna be the next generation and if we think about the
+
+01:08:33.500 --> 01:08:36.620
+fact that a lot of these companies are all united by an interaction with
+
+01:08:36.620 --> 01:08:42.220
+Robert Malone and Robert Malone came out and controlled the narrative about how
+
+01:08:42.220 --> 01:08:48.580
+the mRNA vaccine was successful or not or who was successful for you can start
+
+01:08:48.580 --> 01:08:53.780
+to see a scenario here I think you can start to see a scenario here where you
+
+01:08:53.780 --> 01:09:00.980
+can understand what these people are clowning about now there are a couple
+
+01:09:00.980 --> 01:09:05.100
+other pieces to this puzzle one is that I've heard Robert Malone state several
+
+01:09:05.100 --> 01:09:10.700
+times that him and his wife have a patent on mucosal and inhaled vaccine
+
+01:09:10.700 --> 01:09:17.220
+vaccines and all technologies that do that if that's a possibility then I
+
+01:09:17.220 --> 01:09:23.140
+assure you this company having its long ties with Robert Malone will
+
+01:09:23.140 --> 01:09:30.580
+certainly be on this shortlist as we'll probably absolera and maybe a cutis or
+
+01:09:30.580 --> 01:09:35.980
+whoever else is that that he has ongoing relationships with but it's it's really
+
+01:09:35.980 --> 01:09:45.740
+hard not to see a scenario where the wrong question has been asked for several
+
+01:09:45.740 --> 01:09:52.100
+years now wrong question that has been propelled by George Webb and Veritas and
+
+01:09:52.100 --> 01:09:59.020
+Robert Malone it is a it is a wrong question about who is Boston
+
+01:09:59.020 --> 01:10:04.620
+consulting and what happened in this video and the fact that Robert Malone
+
+01:10:04.620 --> 01:10:12.020
+promoted that video and the fancy org chart of George Webb is exactly that
+
+01:10:12.020 --> 01:10:19.820
+video with exactly Jordan Walker and so we're all distracted by Boston
+
+01:10:19.820 --> 01:10:26.700
+consulting group and Pfizer and we really have never seen any of the
+
+01:10:26.700 --> 01:10:31.660
+companies that Robert Malone is actually working for and consulting with except
+
+01:10:31.660 --> 01:10:38.060
+for on Mark Street and we've never known really how they're connected until we
+
+01:10:38.060 --> 01:10:43.500
+watch this video with Colis and he revealed all the things that he revealed
+
+01:10:43.820 --> 01:10:51.540
+and that Mark kind of got pushed in just the right direction where he where he
+
+01:10:51.540 --> 01:10:57.340
+found what he we needed to find to really see that absolera is the the trick
+
+01:10:57.340 --> 01:11:06.660
+Peter Teal is there the antibody paradox anybody patent paradox is there and so
+
+01:11:06.660 --> 01:11:10.260
+now we need to really understand what the real immunology is going forward and I
+
+01:11:10.300 --> 01:11:14.820
+believe that although this company has been in the background for a long time
+
+01:11:14.820 --> 01:11:20.380
+and not really doesn't seem taken very seriously I actually have always believed
+
+01:11:20.380 --> 01:11:24.500
+you hear a lot of people talk about this the T cells are the cells that we
+
+01:11:24.500 --> 01:11:32.220
+should be targeting and we who were trying to actually augment and so at least in
+
+01:11:32.220 --> 01:11:36.820
+principle this company is thinking the right way and so I think has potential
+
+01:11:36.820 --> 01:11:42.740
+to be the part of the next generation of mRNA therapeutics which I assure you
+
+01:11:42.740 --> 01:11:48.100
+are coming they have no I have no doubt in my mind that that's the plan that
+
+01:11:48.100 --> 01:11:53.980
+that even if it becomes common knowledge that some of the batches of of the
+
+01:11:53.980 --> 01:12:00.260
+mRNA were contaminated it's not going to be enough to penetrate the the psyche of
+
+01:12:00.260 --> 01:12:04.300
+the average skilled TV watcher for them to understand that newer
+
+01:12:04.380 --> 01:12:10.700
+transfections or newer versions of this kind of of therapeutic are going to be
+
+01:12:10.700 --> 01:12:14.620
+just as dangerous they're going to think that the next generation is better just
+
+01:12:14.620 --> 01:12:18.820
+like Robert Malone says that he took the mRNA shot because he assumed they
+
+01:12:18.820 --> 01:12:24.940
+solved the trafficking problem or the targeting problem and of course yesterday
+
+01:12:24.940 --> 01:12:29.140
+we heard from or day before we heard from Peter Cullis that they haven't they
+
+01:12:29.140 --> 01:12:32.500
+tried for 40 years to solve the trafficking problem and they've never done
+
+01:12:32.500 --> 01:12:39.780
+it he burnt five postdocs on it we have been lied to thoroughly and now we're
+
+01:12:39.780 --> 01:12:44.180
+just getting to the point where we can start to see why I think and it's again
+
+01:12:44.180 --> 01:12:50.820
+it is exactly as Mark has said it the best the job of these people is only to
+
+01:12:50.820 --> 01:12:55.180
+make sure that you're asking the wrong question it doesn't even matter what
+
+01:12:55.180 --> 01:13:01.700
+question it is ask a question about bioweapons fine you're lost ask a question
+
+01:13:01.700 --> 01:13:06.380
+about amyloidosis and prion disease okay you're not on the story ask a
+
+01:13:06.380 --> 01:13:13.020
+question about hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin and their effectiveness okay
+
+01:13:13.020 --> 01:13:19.580
+you're not on the story and so as long as you keep fighting about all these
+
+01:13:19.580 --> 01:13:26.180
+nonsense things and you keep chasing down all this nonsense biology he won't
+
+01:13:26.180 --> 01:13:30.740
+ever actually see the breadth and the depth of which you can you can see
+
+01:13:30.740 --> 01:13:34.220
+right through them they're just right here they tell you the truth over and
+
+01:13:34.220 --> 01:13:40.540
+over again they believe in things that don't work they believe in technology
+
+01:13:40.540 --> 01:13:46.300
+with a little bit of hand waving they believe in the future of the technologies
+
+01:13:46.300 --> 01:13:51.860
+that they're working on now and they believe lies are justified because they're
+
+01:13:51.860 --> 01:13:55.740
+getting rich because you can lie in business there's nothing wrong with
+
+01:13:55.740 --> 01:14:00.300
+lying in business to get rich it's all spare in love and war and business I
+
+01:14:00.300 --> 01:14:07.340
+guess so they have to sell this as the best technology it's their technology
+
+01:14:07.340 --> 01:14:15.860
+but they're revealing in my mind how again shallow their understanding of the
+
+01:14:15.860 --> 01:14:20.700
+immune response is in shallow in terms of their outlook on how to augment it
+
+01:14:20.700 --> 01:14:24.300
+they're really still just looking for antibody responses again those are the
+
+01:14:24.300 --> 01:14:28.580
+immunodominant signals in outbred populations here's an example this is a
+
+01:14:28.580 --> 01:14:31.900
+peptide that is found in GAD 65 it has an epi bar and it's a well-known
+
+01:14:31.900 --> 01:14:36.140
+autoimmune disease epitope found in patients who have type 1 diabetes now
+
+01:14:36.140 --> 01:14:39.180
+what happens when we have an impurity that contains a natural or artificial
+
+01:14:39.180 --> 01:14:43.020
+amino acid and what we do there is we basically use a best proxy approach we
+
+01:14:43.020 --> 01:14:45.700
+take three steps we replace with a neutral placeholder just to kind of see
+
+01:14:45.700 --> 01:14:48.940
+what the potential for immunogenicity is in that peptide on its own without the
+
+01:14:48.940 --> 01:14:52.020
+unnatural amino acid then we do a replacement analysis with all 20
+
+01:14:52.020 --> 01:14:55.980
+natural amino acids and look at the best case sorry the best case low immunogenicity
+
+01:14:55.980 --> 01:15:00.220
+or worst case high immunogenicity amino acid replacement that gives us a
+
+01:15:00.220 --> 01:15:03.540
+range and that tells us how immunogenic could this peptide be in the worst case
+
+01:15:03.540 --> 01:15:07.300
+scenario if that third position was replaced by a peptide that found
+
+01:15:07.300 --> 01:15:10.100
+promiscuously across all each allele so that tells you the worst case scenario
+
+01:15:10.100 --> 01:15:13.620
+since you don't or can't predict in silica what the unnatural would actually
+
+01:15:13.620 --> 01:15:16.540
+do the third thing we do is we pick a proxy and in this case for this peptide
+
+01:15:16.540 --> 01:15:20.140
+we actually picked the tryptophan proxy which allowed us to make an
+
+01:15:20.140 --> 01:15:23.740
+insilico prediction for an unnatural that was not a tryptophan so that's what we
+
+01:15:23.780 --> 01:15:27.020
+do in silico for un-naturals now once we've identified the potential immunogenicity
+
+01:15:27.020 --> 01:15:31.140
+of our API and our impurities we also want to evaluate if those APIs or
+
+01:15:31.140 --> 01:15:35.020
+impurities have the potential to induce tolerance in in vitro and in vivo how
+
+01:15:35.020 --> 01:15:38.260
+do peptides induce tolerance they engage t-reg cells that suppress immune
+
+01:15:38.260 --> 01:15:41.940
+response it turns out that the peptides that trigger t-regs bind to HLA
+
+01:15:41.940 --> 01:15:45.380
+molecules similarly to peptides that trigger a t-effector immune response so
+
+01:15:45.380 --> 01:15:49.060
+you can't differentiate them by their HLA binding group files you can as we
+
+01:15:49.060 --> 01:15:52.460
+discovered however determine if a peptide might be a t-reg epitope by
+
+01:15:52.500 --> 01:15:55.700
+looking at its T cell receptor facing surface and so we actually use a tool
+
+01:15:55.700 --> 01:15:58.820
+called Janus matrix to do that let me explain further here what I'm showing
+
+01:15:58.820 --> 01:16:02.580
+is the peptide from your another software to purity binding the binding
+
+01:16:02.580 --> 01:16:05.540
+group the agritobus facing down the abitopus facing up to the T cell
+
+01:16:05.540 --> 01:16:08.780
+receptor and what we're doing with this Janus matrix tool is basically dividing
+
+01:16:08.780 --> 01:16:11.540
+the peptide into two different components the amino acids that bind to
+
+01:16:11.540 --> 01:16:15.180
+the HLA and the amino acids that bond that face up to the T cell receptor you
+
+01:16:15.180 --> 01:16:18.020
+can imagine when the T cell receptor comes down on top of that peptide that is
+
+01:16:18.020 --> 01:16:20.900
+really only seeing the amino acid side chains that face up it can't see the
+
+01:16:20.940 --> 01:16:24.740
+ones that are bound down into the HLA binding group so we could actually take
+
+01:16:24.740 --> 01:16:28.660
+those amino acids and look in the human genome for other peptides it may not be
+
+01:16:28.660 --> 01:16:32.260
+identical in sequence that do have the identical T cell receptor facing
+
+01:16:32.260 --> 01:16:35.460
+residues and bind to the same HLA the T cell probably wouldn't be able to
+
+01:16:35.460 --> 01:16:38.780
+differentiate between that human genome peptide and say the impurity peptide
+
+01:16:38.780 --> 01:16:41.460
+that we're showing it in an HLA molecule as long as the HLA molecule is
+
+01:16:41.460 --> 01:16:44.700
+the same and the T cell receptor facing residues are the same that's the
+
+01:16:44.700 --> 01:16:47.940
+hypothesis turns out that when we do have extensive cross conservation at the TCR
+
+01:16:47.940 --> 01:16:51.340
+phase that we're able to show that those peptides which have say this peptide
+
+01:16:51.340 --> 01:16:55.540
+which is an IMER has six different peptides to which it can be related in
+
+01:16:55.540 --> 01:16:58.300
+the human genome by conservation of the TCR phase and restriction by the same
+
+01:16:58.300 --> 01:17:01.780
+HLA allele that peptide is going to either be tolerated because we've been
+
+01:17:01.780 --> 01:17:05.340
+trained to tolerate it we've seen that peptide before in our own genome or it
+
+01:17:05.340 --> 01:17:08.140
+will be actively regulatory and that's what's really interesting about some of
+
+01:17:08.140 --> 01:17:12.860
+the peptides that we're dealing with as generic peptides today so what she
+
+01:17:12.860 --> 01:17:17.900
+seems to imply here is that if it if a peptide sequence has a high homology
+
+01:17:17.900 --> 01:17:23.540
+with self proteins it will tend to be a T regulatory epitope and if it has an
+
+01:17:23.540 --> 01:17:29.060
+a foreign one then it will tend to be a a immunogenic epitope which is
+
+01:17:29.060 --> 01:17:35.460
+interesting because in another talk of hers you can hear her say very plainly
+
+01:17:35.460 --> 01:17:41.660
+that coronaviruses and RNA viruses have adopted a tremendous amount of
+
+01:17:41.660 --> 01:17:51.340
+homology between human proteins to avoid detection to cause tolerance which is
+
+01:17:51.340 --> 01:17:55.980
+exactly what I've said from the very beginning is essentially the response to
+
+01:17:55.980 --> 01:18:02.020
+a coronavirus RNA if they exist as they are portrayed in cartoons our bodies
+
+01:18:02.020 --> 01:18:09.380
+have learned to respond to these over millennia with a lack of immune response
+
+01:18:09.460 --> 01:18:17.300
+and a lack of inflammation and so one of the reasons why the common cold is in
+
+01:18:17.300 --> 01:18:20.380
+particularly dangerous except for in people who are already dying is that
+
+01:18:20.380 --> 01:18:26.700
+reason because our immune system isn't really triggered by them and one of the
+
+01:18:26.700 --> 01:18:30.980
+reasons may be what she has explained in one of her many lectures is that a lot
+
+01:18:30.980 --> 01:18:36.700
+of the coronavirus proteins are homologous through large stretches with
+
+01:18:36.700 --> 01:18:42.220
+human proteins which could be mimicry or it could be a sign that they're just
+
+01:18:42.220 --> 01:18:46.940
+exosomes right I mean this is part of what's so frustrating about this this
+
+01:18:46.940 --> 01:18:54.620
+idea is that all of these people when they talk they are discussing their ideas in
+
+01:18:54.620 --> 01:18:58.700
+the context of this bad biology and this bad understanding of of the immune
+
+01:18:58.700 --> 01:19:03.820
+system and so it's hard to talk around them in some ways because they're limited
+
+01:19:03.820 --> 01:19:08.420
+by this this huge assumption that you know there's just a few knobs in the
+
+01:19:08.420 --> 01:19:14.340
+immune system to tweak and one goes up and one goes down and it's it's like
+
+01:19:14.340 --> 01:19:20.220
+that but it's not it's not as simple as you know symbols in the band and symbols
+
+01:19:20.220 --> 01:19:23.740
+not in the band it's not like that other aspects of that peptide might bind
+
+01:19:23.740 --> 01:19:26.920
+similarly to an MHC molecule or HLA molecule but would have no cross
+
+01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:29.660
+conservation in the human genome and those could potentially be immunogenic
+
+01:19:29.660 --> 01:19:32.980
+now let's just pretend this API is now has a modification and it is an
+
+01:19:32.980 --> 01:19:36.180
+impurity this part of the impurity that binds to a specific HLA allele could
+
+01:19:36.180 --> 01:19:40.140
+actually be tolerogenic this part of the impurity could actually bind to a MHC or
+
+01:19:40.140 --> 01:19:44.020
+HLA alleles and drive an unexpected and unwanted immune response so that's why we
+
+01:19:44.020 --> 01:19:47.260
+do this analysis with the Janus matrix tool the method is published it's in the
+
+01:19:47.260 --> 01:19:49.940
+literature and there are actually quite a few papers which I'm showing you here
+
+01:19:49.940 --> 01:19:53.100
+and I invite you to look at later what's an example of a T-reg epitope that is
+
+01:19:53.100 --> 01:19:56.100
+confirmed with Janus matrix one is found in immunoglobulin actually there are
+
+01:19:56.100 --> 01:19:59.820
+six to eight to ten that are found in immunoglobulin G and these are promiscuous
+
+01:19:59.820 --> 01:20:02.580
+T cell epitopes that are highly cross conserved not only in immunoglobulin G
+
+01:20:02.580 --> 01:20:06.820
+but across a whole set of other human genome peptides they are tolerogenic they
+
+01:20:06.820 --> 01:20:11.420
+do induce T-regs in vitro and they induce adaptive tolerance to other parts of
+
+01:20:11.420 --> 01:20:14.900
+proteins that contain them so T-regitopes are an interesting discovery that we can
+
+01:20:14.900 --> 01:20:18.260
+make with the Janus matrix tool and when we're looking at contain them so T-regics
+
+01:20:18.260 --> 01:20:21.940
+in vitro and they induce adaptive talk I'm not really sure how this works she's
+
+01:20:21.940 --> 01:20:29.260
+saying IgG this is a antibody year and I'm not really sure how this arrow works
+
+01:20:29.260 --> 01:20:35.660
+with regard to now that antigen presenting cell is gonna present a
+
+01:20:35.660 --> 01:20:38.580
+portion of the antibody this is something that I have never heard of
+
+01:20:38.580 --> 01:20:43.140
+before so I guess I'm gonna have to read some of those papers I might need to
+
+01:20:43.140 --> 01:20:48.660
+catch up on this this is a this is a new thing for me but it's interesting to
+
+01:20:48.660 --> 01:20:55.780
+think that the T-regulatory cell epitope might be on IgG antibodies I don't know
+
+01:20:55.780 --> 01:20:59.540
+what I have to draw pictures I'm not gonna be able to follow this anymore I
+
+01:20:59.540 --> 01:21:03.340
+don't think but I'm gonna listen to it but I'm gonna get lost to other parts
+
+01:21:03.340 --> 01:21:06.540
+of proteins that contain them so T-regitopes are an interesting discovery
+
+01:21:06.540 --> 01:21:09.420
+that we can make with the Janus matrix tool now when we're looking at peptides
+
+01:21:09.420 --> 01:21:12.380
+and their impurities we're gonna try to assess their risk by looking at these
+
+01:21:12.380 --> 01:21:16.300
+two aspects of the peptide itself let's look at for example on the y-axis how
+
+01:21:16.300 --> 01:21:19.660
+many T-cell epitopes per unit length that peptide or impurity might have you
+
+01:21:19.660 --> 01:21:22.820
+could have epitode dense peptides or epitopes sparse peptides and then let's
+
+01:21:22.820 --> 01:21:26.020
+look at the humanists of that peptide you could have peptides that are more
+
+01:21:26.020 --> 01:21:29.220
+that are have TCR faces that are more common in human proteins and peptides
+
+01:21:29.220 --> 01:21:32.780
+that have that look less human and so you can obviously divide peptides and
+
+01:21:32.780 --> 01:21:35.300
+their impurities into four different quadrants with the least immunogenic
+
+01:21:35.300 --> 01:21:37.580
+potential down here and the most immunogenic potential up there where
+
+01:21:37.580 --> 01:21:41.060
+there are more T-cell epitopes less human so what do our generic peptides look
+
+01:21:41.060 --> 01:21:43.780
+like and what do their impurities look like well let's just take the two peptides
+
+01:21:43.780 --> 01:21:47.060
+that we worked on with the FDA in the context of our contract here you can see
+
+01:21:47.060 --> 01:21:53.020
+on this quadrant analysis all of that so she's working on FDA approved
+
+01:21:53.020 --> 01:21:59.020
+biologics which have known impurities in them and she's trying to explain whether
+
+01:21:59.020 --> 01:22:05.060
+the impurities are generating the unwanted immune responses or the peptide
+
+01:22:05.060 --> 01:22:13.660
+itself and so she's analyzed peptides for the FDA this is like right years
+
+01:22:13.660 --> 01:22:17.820
+years later after she had that interview which I described where she
+
+01:22:17.820 --> 01:22:21.380
+said well we charged him a thousand and they paid it and the next people had
+
+01:22:21.380 --> 01:22:25.180
+called we said five and they paid it and the next people called we said 20 and
+
+01:22:25.180 --> 01:22:31.860
+they paid it so we knew we had a company and so what you see here is epi matrix
+
+01:22:31.860 --> 01:22:38.540
+and Janice matrix supposedly probably just two software programs that are
+
+01:22:38.620 --> 01:22:46.860
+going to be patented and that makes the results of this patentable or trade
+
+01:22:46.860 --> 01:22:50.340
+markable or something I'm sure
+
+01:22:51.300 --> 01:22:55.580
+generic peptides that are of interest in the market right now and you can see
+
+01:22:55.580 --> 01:22:59.020
+that a lot of them fall in this low epitope density but not necessarily very
+
+01:22:59.020 --> 01:23:02.740
+human quadrant which suggests that there is potential for some immunogenicity but
+
+01:23:02.740 --> 01:23:05.260
+there are two that fall in other quadrants tear peritide falls in the
+
+01:23:05.260 --> 01:23:07.320
+epitope dense but highly human so potentially taller
+
+01:23:07.320 --> 01:23:11.160
+genetic quadrant and the serotide is epitope sparse and highly human so
+
+01:23:11.160 --> 01:23:14.000
+probably not a problem as an API and what about their impurities you can
+
+01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:16.800
+actually see on this quadrant graph that the tear peritide impurities that we
+
+01:23:16.800 --> 01:23:20.280
+worked on with FDA really travel around the parent drug small modifications
+
+01:23:20.280 --> 01:23:23.400
+really don't expect you don't can't expect deviation to be too great from
+
+01:23:23.400 --> 01:23:26.000
+the parent drug but there are examples and we actually designed the peptide
+
+01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:29.840
+shown here to be to erase the human like a face of tear peritide and I'll get to
+
+01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:33.200
+that later so we actually found using an algorithm the peptides that were
+
+01:23:33.200 --> 01:23:36.520
+furthest from the parent molecule and could potentially be immunogenic obviously
+
+01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:39.440
+those are impurities that you want to watch out for here's salmon calcitonin
+
+01:23:39.440 --> 01:23:42.880
+again most of the impurities kind of traveled around the salmon calcitonin
+
+01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:46.600
+API itself and didn't get up into the very high risk but there were they were
+
+01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:49.600
+in the kind of moderate risk category here you can see in gray some well-known
+
+01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:53.080
+peptides that are immunogenic generally derived from tetanus toxin and others
+
+01:23:53.080 --> 01:23:55.840
+those are used as controls in our assays and here the T regitope showing
+
+01:23:55.840 --> 01:23:59.120
+that they are epitope dense but highly human and or as I've mentioned have been
+
+01:23:59.120 --> 01:24:03.400
+found to be taller genetic now how do we validate the in silico I'm just going
+
+01:24:03.400 --> 01:24:06.400
+to point to a couple of assays that we use we use HLA binding assays to see if
+
+01:24:06.400 --> 01:24:09.840
+the agritope binds to the HLA DR molecules as predicted then we use T cell
+
+01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:12.720
+assays with naive donors looking to see if we can generate a T cell response in
+
+01:24:12.720 --> 01:24:16.360
+vitro not the most accurate assay but it's a good way of validating something
+
+01:24:16.360 --> 01:24:20.800
+that you've looked at in silico to see if the two two expectations align so it's
+
+01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:24.240
+a way of doing orthogonal analysis of your impurity looking at it from two
+
+01:24:24.240 --> 01:24:27.320
+different directions and seeing if you get sort of the same signal the binding
+
+01:24:27.320 --> 01:24:31.600
+assay that we use is actually an assay that uses a fluorescent tracer peptide
+
+01:24:31.640 --> 01:24:36.200
+that's a known binder I'm still I'm still confused about how you can use a blood
+
+01:24:36.200 --> 01:24:43.400
+sample from a person to take T cells out and then try to find T cells my
+
+01:24:43.400 --> 01:24:49.200
+problem with that is that it is inevitably an incredibly small portion of
+
+01:24:49.200 --> 01:24:53.200
+the T cells of that person because most of the naive T cells are hanging out in
+
+01:24:53.680 --> 01:25:02.480
+not in circulation but they're in the lymph nodes pre activation so I'm having
+
+01:25:02.480 --> 01:25:09.720
+a hard time understanding what kind of sample one gets from circulation my
+
+01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:12.960
+assumption would be that that sample would be composed of T cells that have
+
+01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:16.240
+already been educated T cells that are already on patrol T cells that are
+
+01:25:16.240 --> 01:25:21.360
+already working including cytotoxic T cells as well T regulatory cells and
+
+01:25:21.360 --> 01:25:27.160
+T helper cells I don't so she said it was not a very reliable essay or not a
+
+01:25:27.160 --> 01:25:32.840
+perfect assay but I think it's it's worse than that it's it's not even she
+
+01:25:32.840 --> 01:25:36.320
+should really say that it's like a biological shot in the dark and if we
+
+01:25:36.320 --> 01:25:39.120
+get something from it we're lucky but most of the time we don't know for sure
+
+01:25:39.120 --> 01:25:46.480
+because the vast majority of the catalog of T cell memory is encased in a place
+
+01:25:46.480 --> 01:25:51.760
+that you can't just get to with a small blood sample that really bothers me a
+
+01:25:51.760 --> 01:25:56.480
+lot I don't I don't know I don't tie it off with the test peptide which is our
+
+01:25:56.480 --> 01:26:01.920
+API or in our impurity we do a seven concentration range of binding assay
+
+01:26:01.920 --> 01:26:05.640
+so that we can get a nice dose ranging curve and that gives us the ability to
+
+01:26:05.640 --> 01:26:09.840
+calculate the I C 50 of the binding affinity here are some examples strong
+
+01:26:09.840 --> 01:26:13.400
+binder competes off the tracer peptide moderate binder only at high
+
+01:26:13.400 --> 01:26:16.960
+concentrations non binder doesn't compete at all T cell assay we use is is
+
+01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:20.120
+adopted from walnut at all it basically expands up T cells in vitro with the
+
+01:26:20.120 --> 01:26:22.880
+test peptide and then you do a measurement of the immune response either in a
+
+01:26:22.880 --> 01:26:26.480
+fluorescent at least by assay measuring T cell responses or you can do a flow
+
+01:26:26.480 --> 01:26:30.640
+assay the last assay I want to mention is the tetanus toxin bystander assay I'm
+
+01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:34.480
+not an expert on those assays I'm gonna try to read a few of her papers and see
+
+01:26:34.480 --> 01:26:37.600
+if we can't do some journal clubs on them till we can understand this because I
+
+01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:42.800
+am interested in T cells and understanding what is supposedly known so it
+
+01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:47.200
+looks like this is gonna be a a lot of work for me but it's good okay or we we
+
+01:26:47.200 --> 01:26:50.120
+actually measure for T-reg response but since you can't it's or it's difficult
+
+01:26:50.120 --> 01:26:52.680
+to measure directly the T-reg response we usually try to measure it by looking
+
+01:26:52.680 --> 01:26:55.920
+at how much a T-reg epitope will suppress another response here we use
+
+01:26:55.920 --> 01:26:59.960
+tetanus toxin and we try to suppress that response in vitro we publish that assay
+
+01:26:59.960 --> 01:27:04.040
+it's in a new paper looking at a new T-regital tube called factor 5 6 21 please
+
+01:27:04.040 --> 01:27:07.760
+take a look at the light Jack paper looking at a new T-regital tube called
+
+01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:11.400
+factor 5 6 21 please take a look at the light Jack you're just gonna have to
+
+01:27:11.400 --> 01:27:15.880
+wait a few minutes so to the case studies really interesting peptides
+
+01:27:15.880 --> 01:27:19.160
+salmon calcitonin and teraparitide salmon calcitonin because it is immunogenic
+
+01:27:19.160 --> 01:27:23.080
+it is a foreign peptide only 50% conserved with human calcitonin teraparitide a
+
+01:27:23.080 --> 01:27:25.800
+fully human peptide and as it turns out it looks tolerogenic in our in
+
+01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:29.640
+silico assays here is salmon calcitonin interestingly enough it has one of those
+
+01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:33.600
+every day talked about and that epibar is in the book I can't tell whether if
+
+01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:38.120
+tolerogenic is good in her mind or what it is I can't tell we foreign immunogenic
+
+01:27:38.120 --> 01:27:40.680
+region others have looked at this region and found it to be immunogenic so that's
+
+01:27:40.680 --> 01:27:43.980
+confirmed in our in silico assays and we also looked at impurities you can see
+
+01:27:43.980 --> 01:27:46.520
+as I've mentioned before that all of the salmon calcitonin impurities were in
+
+01:27:46.520 --> 01:27:50.320
+the left lower quadrant not traveling too far from the a salmon calcitonin
+
+01:27:50.320 --> 01:27:53.480
+API and we test all of these in finding assays all these in T-cell assays it's
+
+01:27:53.480 --> 01:27:56.520
+one of their controls the tetanus toxin is there so just to give you kind of a
+
+01:27:56.520 --> 01:28:01.120
+high-level view of salmon calcitonin is immunogenic in a 16 donor set of assays
+
+01:28:01.120 --> 01:28:04.560
+we found that 44% of donors responded again see there you go now they're
+
+01:28:04.560 --> 01:28:09.120
+using 16 different donors to find out if there's a T-cell response that
+
+01:28:09.120 --> 01:28:14.920
+recognizes one of these epitopes or recognizes their responses to calcitonin
+
+01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:20.640
+so I'm still not completely clear what they're doing but I do think it is that
+
+01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:25.800
+from this test they can take those T-cells and then find out a little bit
+
+01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:30.760
+about what they memorized in this I don't know what an API is I think that
+
+01:28:30.760 --> 01:28:37.160
+this is some abbreviation for a protein artificially protein something you know
+
+01:28:37.160 --> 01:28:39.760
+like I don't know what that means I could you could google it and find it
+
+01:28:39.760 --> 01:28:43.080
+out but it's she's used it a couple times in the talk as if everybody in the
+
+01:28:43.080 --> 01:28:46.240
+audience understood it so I didn't that matrix a score is above that random
+
+01:28:46.240 --> 01:28:50.680
+zero that's the median of what we would expect from random chance so higher
+
+01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:55.560
+than I would say expected immunogenicity for a peptide or expected in silico and
+
+01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:59.840
+validated in vitro we also found that the impurities listed here some of which
+
+01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:04.200
+had higher scores a higher it means a small number of donors who put you in
+
+01:29:05.200 --> 01:29:09.800
+salt and but you can see that yes although salmone calcitonin is immunogenic
+
+01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:13.440
+the impurities do look like they're slightly more immunogenic as predicted
+
+01:29:13.440 --> 01:29:17.040
+in silico so the findings in our salmone calcitonin studies were that the
+
+01:29:17.040 --> 01:29:19.440
+salmone calcitonin impurities had similar epimatrix scores that were
+
+01:29:19.440 --> 01:29:22.520
+moderate and Janus matrix scores which were non-human and they had
+
+01:29:22.520 --> 01:29:27.360
+application program to the API so they were immunogenic as predicted but not
+
+01:29:27.360 --> 01:29:30.440
+more so than the API itself so that was a nice finding now what about terra
+
+01:29:30.440 --> 01:29:34.600
+peritide terra peritide is fully human it is a sub sequence of the parathyroid
+
+01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:37.920
+hormone it's a drug called fordio it's generally not immunogenic in the
+
+01:29:37.920 --> 01:29:41.480
+clinic but it does have an epibar so if you look at this this peptide sequence
+
+01:29:41.480 --> 01:29:43.960
+you see that epibar and you go to yourself that's got to be immunogenic
+
+01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:47.440
+however when we look at it with Janus matrix I do not know what an epibar is
+
+01:29:47.440 --> 01:29:50.960
+apparently everybody else in the audience does but I don't know what an
+
+01:29:50.960 --> 01:29:54.720
+epibar is I could also google that but I'm not gonna do it right now it has a
+
+01:29:54.720 --> 01:29:58.080
+very high Janus matrix human homology score meaning that it has a
+
+01:29:58.080 --> 01:30:00.600
+conservation with the TCR facing residues of peptides found in the
+
+01:30:00.600 --> 01:30:04.200
+human genome and actually it's related to the human protein tubulin which is
+
+01:30:04.200 --> 01:30:08.680
+found in most cells all cells it's the protein that basically gives each cell
+
+01:30:08.680 --> 01:30:11.440
+its structure so this is very similar promiscuous T cell epitope is found in
+
+01:30:11.440 --> 01:30:14.920
+tubulin here's the cytoscape diagram showing that relationship again as I've
+
+01:30:14.920 --> 01:30:18.800
+mentioned terra peritide actually has a high epimatrix score higher epitope
+
+01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:21.320
+density than what we would expect from random chance lots of T cell epitopes
+
+01:30:21.320 --> 01:30:24.640
+epibar and it's highly human as we've mentioned in terms of its Janus matrix
+
+01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:28.320
+score and so are most of the impurities and we actually had to generate an
+
+01:30:28.320 --> 01:30:31.760
+impurity that erased that TCR face and we did do that with what we call the
+
+01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:35.320
+WIM machine which generates all the impurities at every single amino acid
+
+01:30:35.320 --> 01:30:39.040
+position for every generic peptide that we want to look at and that actually gave
+
+01:30:39.040 --> 01:30:43.600
+us a couple of solutions that we could test in vitro and in vivo here again are
+
+01:30:43.600 --> 01:30:47.120
+the impurities again this publication is in preparation we promise that you'll
+
+01:30:47.120 --> 01:30:50.080
+get a look at the detailed results for these impurities when we finish now I'm
+
+01:30:50.080 --> 01:30:52.560
+just gonna cut to the chase because I thought this was really interesting we
+
+01:30:52.560 --> 01:30:55.280
+actually did that tetanus toxin bystander assay with the API so here I'm
+
+01:30:55.280 --> 01:30:58.880
+just using the API to see if it was tolerogenic in vitro so we added
+
+01:30:58.880 --> 01:31:01.880
+tetanus to this the wells and in this example donor what we're looking for
+
+01:31:01.880 --> 01:31:05.160
+is proliferation of the cells the cells travel left in the flow when they
+
+01:31:05.160 --> 01:31:09.520
+start proliferating and when we actually see a T-reg have an effect on that
+
+01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:13.040
+proliferation you can see less proliferation here and less activation
+
+01:31:13.040 --> 01:31:16.960
+and presentation of activation cell surface markers on the T cells so two
+
+01:31:16.960 --> 01:31:19.920
+different tests of the same thing and what you see here is two standard T
+
+01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:24.000
+regitope controls and terra peritide all three are suppressing the
+
+01:31:24.000 --> 01:31:26.640
+proliferation response to tetanus toxin and our tetanus toxin bystander
+
+01:31:26.640 --> 01:31:29.360
+assay and they also reduce activation this was repeated with I think five
+
+01:31:29.360 --> 01:31:33.320
+total donors which demonstrated that that terra peritide does actually have a
+
+01:31:33.320 --> 01:31:36.800
+tolerogenic effect in vitro could be what we would call a T regitope and we're
+
+01:31:36.800 --> 01:31:40.120
+going to be exploring that further do the impurities induce an immune response and
+
+01:31:40.120 --> 01:31:43.840
+the answer is yes if you remove the TCR cross-conserved residues the terra
+
+01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:46.880
+peritide impurities still bind but they are more immunogenic and we look forward
+
+01:31:46.880 --> 01:31:50.960
+to publishing that data so you can review it in detail so in brief we had
+
+01:31:50.960 --> 01:31:54.320
+an opportunity to look at these two case studies and then the most recent
+
+01:31:54.320 --> 01:31:57.680
+project is to prospectively predict and rank all peptide impurities well at
+
+01:31:57.680 --> 01:32:02.200
+least for the generic peptides using a machine called whim what is whim is whim
+
+01:32:02.200 --> 01:32:06.240
+stands for the what if machine and basically since we don't know all drug
+
+01:32:06.240 --> 01:32:09.360
+impurities but there are certainly many that could occur we basically just made
+
+01:32:09.360 --> 01:32:12.120
+an in silico tool that performs all possible changes to the natural amino
+
+01:32:12.120 --> 01:32:15.080
+acid sequence of the drug substance and measures their impact on the epitome
+
+01:32:15.080 --> 01:32:19.800
+content not only epitope density but also their humanness the what if machine
+
+01:32:19.800 --> 01:32:24.480
+sounds a lot like the domain server or like what Robert Malone did at the
+
+01:32:24.480 --> 01:32:29.920
+beginning of the pandemic where he tested all possible drugs all known drugs and
+
+01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:40.680
+pharmaceuticals against the the virtual 3D crystallization model of the of the
+
+01:32:40.720 --> 01:32:46.240
+enzyme that he made in like three weeks he made the model of the enzyme of the
+
+01:32:46.240 --> 01:32:52.320
+protein that he wanted to bind to which was the 3 CL enzyme or protease 3 CL
+
+01:32:52.320 --> 01:32:58.520
+protease of the of the virus he made a crystal a virtual crystal model of that
+
+01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:05.080
+which again is a simulation and then he took that simulation he interfaced it
+
+01:33:05.080 --> 01:33:12.600
+with all known drugs and pharmaceuticals in the domain server or in the domain
+
+01:33:12.600 --> 01:33:21.160
+program or something and the crazy thing is is that program kicked out remdesivir
+
+01:33:21.160 --> 01:33:28.360
+femotidine and a few other things apparently it didn't kick out a hydroxy
+
+01:33:28.360 --> 01:33:33.280
+chloroquine or ivermectin and that could be because they don't interact with the
+
+01:33:33.280 --> 01:33:39.400
+virtual 3D crystallography model that Robert Malone made of the 3 CL protease
+
+01:33:39.400 --> 01:33:45.640
+in January of 2020 after being told by Michael Callahan to spin his team up
+
+01:33:45.640 --> 01:33:53.080
+largely volunteers this sounds like a very similar you know magic box where you
+
+01:33:53.080 --> 01:33:59.280
+just kind of crank it out and it gives you answers all possible changes but this
+
+01:33:59.280 --> 01:34:04.360
+is easier because it's only nine only nine amino acids in their in their
+
+01:34:04.360 --> 01:34:09.000
+epitopes and so they only need to change those nine amino acids in relation to
+
+01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:13.880
+the other chemical amino acids that are related to them so 20 amino acids you
+
+01:34:13.880 --> 01:34:19.160
+know it's maximum it's not that many so it it's a little less than all the drugs
+
+01:34:19.160 --> 01:34:23.880
+and pharmaceuticals known to man were tested against my my thing like then
+
+01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:27.720
+calculate a predicted immunodulus score that combines those two things and we
+
+01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:30.320
+basically identify whether certain impurities with modifications at a
+
+01:34:30.320 --> 01:34:34.160
+certain location are more risky than others this generates a list list that
+
+01:34:34.160 --> 01:34:37.360
+could be used to identify impurities that could be removed from generic drugs
+
+01:34:37.360 --> 01:34:42.600
+prior to approval so this just shows you an example of past pogutide which is a
+
+01:34:42.600 --> 01:34:45.800
+glip one that was taken off the market because it had a lot of impurities a lot
+
+01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:49.200
+of those impurities were immunogenic there wasn't HLA association none of
+
+01:34:49.200 --> 01:34:52.960
+that ever got published but we have seen the data and what is shown here is just
+
+01:34:52.960 --> 01:34:57.280
+a duplication modification that we generated with whim you can see that some
+
+01:34:57.280 --> 01:35:01.420
+of those some here's the RLD or the API and here are the scores of the
+
+01:35:01.420 --> 01:35:05.480
+modified impurities generated in the wind machine you can also see the Janus
+
+01:35:05.480 --> 01:35:08.400
+major comology score obviously a high homology score would be less immunogenic
+
+01:35:08.400 --> 01:35:11.800
+and what's really interesting that is that the HLA that restricted were
+
+01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:15.440
+present in the patients that had the adverse events with TASPO correlated
+
+01:35:15.440 --> 01:35:19.280
+with the highest risk immunogenicity in this table so maybe we identified the
+
+01:35:19.280 --> 01:35:22.880
+impurities that were a problem in that TASPO clinical trial so this is just to
+
+01:35:22.880 --> 01:35:26.760
+tell you what's coming up we so in a way it's very interesting because what she
+
+01:35:26.760 --> 01:35:34.860
+is doing is not dissimilar to what San Sashalatopova was doing back in the
+
+01:35:34.860 --> 01:35:40.600
+90s where she was giving them and giving pharmaceutical companies another way to
+
+01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:48.640
+read the P wave of cardiac of cardiac signals so one of the things that they
+
+01:35:48.640 --> 01:35:54.240
+look for in all drug trials is the the signature of the heart of the patient
+
+01:35:54.240 --> 01:35:58.080
+and you know that the signature of the heart of a patient has this you know
+
+01:35:58.080 --> 01:36:02.880
+thing that they call I don't know what it is electrocardiogram and it has this
+
+01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:06.960
+little shape and they show it on the ER show and all other stuff and it's got a
+
+01:36:06.960 --> 01:36:12.600
+P wave and a Q something and whatever and cardiologists that are really good at
+
+01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:15.800
+looking at these things can tell what's wrong with you by just looking at the
+
+01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:20.800
+distances and the sizes between these these characteristic electrical signals
+
+01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:30.080
+that come from the heart and so Sandra a lot of Sashalatopova was the CEO of a
+
+01:36:30.080 --> 01:36:36.480
+company which sold software which essentially analyzed the the cardiac
+
+01:36:36.480 --> 01:36:44.800
+data of in clinical trials and so in a way it was a what-if machine about the
+
+01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:52.000
+cardiac data in a in a way that could as Sashal that be more sensitive so that
+
+01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:58.120
+let's say bad signals cut bad cardiac signals would not prematurely end a
+
+01:36:58.120 --> 01:37:04.720
+trial or not allow a drug to come to market because their software allowed a
+
+01:37:04.720 --> 01:37:10.240
+more subtle analysis which you could just construe as the software allowed them
+
+01:37:10.240 --> 01:37:15.640
+to get away with more signal change then they should have been able to and I
+
+01:37:15.640 --> 01:37:19.600
+would I would argue that this might be something very similar to that where
+
+01:37:19.600 --> 01:37:29.280
+we're looking at a a kind of a screen of a biologic where you can actually look
+
+01:37:29.280 --> 01:37:33.560
+at the the results of a clinical trial and then come up with a model where the
+
+01:37:33.560 --> 01:37:39.440
+where the impurities that you found are responsible for the for the adverse
+
+01:37:39.480 --> 01:37:44.000
+events rather than for the the product as a whole and so you can blame it on this
+
+01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:53.200
+what how well with using software three layers of software can identify where the
+
+01:37:53.200 --> 01:38:00.440
+potential immunogenic epitopes are in your designer drug and its impurities and so
+
+01:38:00.440 --> 01:38:04.120
+unless you're able to go into this code and find it yourself which you can't
+
+01:38:04.120 --> 01:38:08.000
+unless you're part of this company you're never going to be able to verify
+
+01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:13.600
+whether or not this score is actually proving that the intended protein is
+
+01:38:13.600 --> 01:38:19.520
+fine but the purity impurities are wrong it's a really wonderful wonderful tool
+
+01:38:19.520 --> 01:38:26.080
+if it's honest but it's also a hugely potential source of fraud because just
+
+01:38:26.080 --> 01:38:31.240
+because you use a computer program doesn't make it correct and if you can
+
+01:38:31.240 --> 01:38:34.280
+launder anything you want through through the domain program and get
+
+01:38:34.280 --> 01:38:40.520
+everybody to take remdesivir and that's kind of the same trick which I think
+
+01:38:40.520 --> 01:38:47.840
+was done with remdesivir and potentially could be done with a software suite like
+
+01:38:47.840 --> 01:38:52.800
+this one. We identified the impurities that were a problem in that TASPO clinical
+
+01:38:52.800 --> 01:38:56.480
+trial so this is just to tell you what's coming up we are really delighted to be
+
+01:38:56.480 --> 01:38:59.920
+working with our OGD colleagues on these projects of the last one being
+
+01:38:59.920 --> 01:39:03.040
+Selen Calcitonin and Terra Peritite and the current one being Wim I have
+
+01:39:03.040 --> 01:39:06.560
+included publications in my presentation and I want to thank my team for doing
+
+01:39:06.560 --> 01:39:09.280
+the actual work that I get to present and I'll take any questions that you may
+
+01:39:09.280 --> 01:39:15.600
+have thank you for your attention. So we're going to leave it at that right yes
+
+01:39:15.600 --> 01:39:24.360
+we are it whoops that was a mistake. Hello and welcome to our webinar the
+
+01:39:24.360 --> 01:39:27.160
+webinar is entitled does nature always know best the role of regulatory
+
+01:39:27.160 --> 01:39:30.360
+T cell epitopes in biologics and vaccines my name is Annie DeGroote I'm
+
+01:39:31.320 --> 01:39:35.400
+guess we have to I'll have to watch that one sometime because that's really
+
+01:39:35.400 --> 01:39:38.880
+cool too I want to know what they're thinking I want to know what's going on
+
+01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:44.680
+here. So if you don't mind I'm just gonna take this chance to present the
+
+01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:51.920
+last part of my running slide set right now in a different voice. Ladies and
+
+01:39:51.920 --> 01:39:56.840
+gentlemen we have been misled about the potential for pandemics in bad caves
+
+01:39:57.040 --> 01:40:02.080
+and we've also been misled about the potential of this pandemic potential
+
+01:40:02.080 --> 01:40:07.960
+that can be accessed via cell culture and via animal passage over several
+
+01:40:07.960 --> 01:40:12.920
+decades we have been led to believe that this pandemic potential could be
+
+01:40:12.920 --> 01:40:18.240
+accessed in a laboratory and even worse you could stitch pieces of potential
+
+01:40:18.240 --> 01:40:21.920
+pandemic viruses together and create something that mother nature herself
+
+01:40:21.920 --> 01:40:28.440
+never would have and it is this illusion of consensus about the potential for
+
+01:40:28.440 --> 01:40:34.400
+pandemics in bad caves and in laboratories that is the new mythology
+
+01:40:34.400 --> 01:40:41.000
+with which they intend to govern you and more importantly your children because
+
+01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:45.680
+it's different than terrorism it's different than patriotism it's different
+
+01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:51.280
+than communism it's different than aliens it affects everyone and it's
+
+01:40:51.320 --> 01:40:58.360
+invisible and it's under and you can't investigate it there's nothing that the
+
+01:40:58.360 --> 01:41:04.000
+average person can do to disprove this without learning years of molecular
+
+01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:11.800
+biology to the extent to which you can see through this but there is a way to
+
+01:41:11.800 --> 01:41:15.280
+see through it if you don't bother with the biology you can just bother with the
+
+01:41:15.280 --> 01:41:22.240
+numbers and the way to think about it is in 2020 they told you that there was a
+
+01:41:22.240 --> 01:41:31.640
+new cause of death a new way of dying for which everyone was vulnerable and that
+
+01:41:31.640 --> 01:41:39.600
+new way of dying should have shown up as a spreading respiratory virus and so
+
+01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:45.640
+when you say this out loud there's a novel cause of death that's spreading that is
+
+01:41:45.640 --> 01:41:53.680
+a certain level of expectation in the data and Denny Rancor has shown us that
+
+01:41:53.680 --> 01:42:00.320
+those expectations are never met so the excess deaths are not correlated with
+
+01:42:00.320 --> 01:42:08.600
+the spread they are correlated with poverty excess deaths are not correlated
+
+01:42:08.600 --> 01:42:17.440
+with spread they are correlated with poverty in America and that's because
+
+01:42:17.440 --> 01:42:26.480
+hospital protocols were destroyed the autonomy of a doctor to treat the
+
+01:42:26.480 --> 01:42:33.360
+symptoms in front of him or her was destroyed and with a high financial
+
+01:42:33.360 --> 01:42:41.360
+incentive and top-down control in hospitals they were able to use a
+
+01:42:41.360 --> 01:42:49.760
+nonspecific PCR test to rope an ever larger portion of all cause mortality
+
+01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:57.040
+into a new national security priority that they called COVID when in reality
+
+01:42:57.040 --> 01:43:02.040
+all they really needed to do was kill a bunch of people with pneumonia and call
+
+01:43:02.040 --> 01:43:08.360
+it that that's all they need to do if you need antibiotics for secondary
+
+01:43:08.360 --> 01:43:13.440
+pneumonia and you don't get it and instead they test you with PCR and then
+
+01:43:13.440 --> 01:43:20.240
+put you on a ventilator and gave you remdesivir you were added to the list and
+
+01:43:20.240 --> 01:43:25.320
+in fact with a lot of these people early on there was no remdesivir there was
+
+01:43:25.320 --> 01:43:32.160
+just a lack of treatment from not do not resuscitate orders in New York City
+
+01:43:32.160 --> 01:43:38.160
+all the way to ventilating people they could talk and these protocols were
+
+01:43:38.160 --> 01:43:44.600
+enacted wherever the government or the CDC had sufficient push and we're gonna
+
+01:43:44.600 --> 01:43:48.680
+find more and more that the places where these protocols didn't occur there's
+
+01:43:48.680 --> 01:43:54.000
+gonna be some administrative reason why one doctor got in the way or several
+
+01:43:54.000 --> 01:44:00.080
+nurses got in the way and so the death toll never happened there that's the
+
+01:44:00.080 --> 01:44:05.080
+reason why the death toll doesn't cross borders ladies and gentlemen that's the
+
+01:44:05.080 --> 01:44:11.280
+reason why why Germany had almost no deaths until the vaccine was rolled out
+
+01:44:11.280 --> 01:44:17.960
+no excess deaths ladies and gentlemen they intend a total surrender of
+
+01:44:17.960 --> 01:44:21.480
+individual sovereignty and enforcement of a fundamental inversion from basic
+
+01:44:21.480 --> 01:44:26.600
+human rights to basic granted permissions and this illusion of consensus is how
+
+01:44:26.600 --> 01:44:30.160
+they've done it they have convinced us that there was a novel virus that
+
+01:44:30.160 --> 01:44:33.960
+everybody had to act on that the Army RNA saved a lot of people but it could
+
+01:44:33.960 --> 01:44:37.080
+have been better and because this was likely again a function virus this will
+
+01:44:37.080 --> 01:44:42.480
+definitely happen again and that illusion of consensus I'm calling a scooby-doo
+
+01:44:42.480 --> 01:44:46.840
+which is a bunch of teenagers being fooled into solving a mystery that ends
+
+01:44:46.840 --> 01:44:53.560
+up to be bad guys with monster masks and so while the entire population is
+
+01:44:53.560 --> 01:44:58.640
+afraid of a monster called COVID-19 we are now being tricked into taking the
+
+01:44:58.640 --> 01:45:04.040
+masks off of the people who are responsible for that monster instead of
+
+01:45:04.040 --> 01:45:09.040
+being told the truth which is the monster could only exist in the context
+
+01:45:09.040 --> 01:45:16.000
+of lies lies about your immune system lies about mother nature lies about the
+
+01:45:16.000 --> 01:45:22.600
+fidelity of RNA lies about the immune response lies about vaccination lies
+
+01:45:22.600 --> 01:45:30.400
+about intramuscular injection lies about everything and in 2020 in 2021 the
+
+01:45:30.400 --> 01:45:38.520
+lies were so succinct and so synchronized and so perfect the doctors
+
+01:45:38.520 --> 01:45:42.880
+around the world were ventilating people to prevent spread doctors around
+
+01:45:42.880 --> 01:45:49.520
+America were using remdesivir with no no bother to read where it had been used
+
+01:45:49.520 --> 01:45:56.040
+before no bother to look into how it worked no bother at all just following
+
+01:45:56.040 --> 01:46:02.720
+the CDC protocol don't use antibiotics anymore don't use antibiotics anymore on
+
+01:46:02.720 --> 01:46:11.680
+a viral disease was something that people on twiv are still saying then they shut
+
+01:46:11.680 --> 01:46:16.840
+down schools they masked our little babies and they terrified everybody who
+
+01:46:16.840 --> 01:46:23.400
+wasn't sophisticated enough to know they terrified every skilled TV watcher
+
+01:46:23.400 --> 01:46:28.320
+with this illusion of consensus and those skilled TV watchers are just now
+
+01:46:28.320 --> 01:46:32.840
+thinking that they finally figured out what happened which is that we covered
+
+01:46:32.840 --> 01:46:37.960
+up our role in the production of this virus in China and then it got out in
+
+01:46:37.960 --> 01:46:44.800
+China tried to cover it up and so did we and the reason why this is so enticing
+
+01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:48.840
+this illusion of consensus of a laboratory batcave zoonosis is that that
+
+01:46:48.840 --> 01:46:53.880
+means that this potential is there forever that means that we need the who
+
+01:46:53.880 --> 01:47:02.640
+and vaccines and viral surveillance and all of this stuff forever and that's what
+
+01:47:02.640 --> 01:47:07.120
+I mean by trying to govern your children on this mythology this mythology
+
+01:47:07.120 --> 01:47:12.280
+that we defeat viruses with vaccination all the time like Annie DeGroote said in
+
+01:47:12.280 --> 01:47:19.040
+that brief piece on the TV channel she said that we have to develop immunity
+
+01:47:19.040 --> 01:47:26.840
+with vaccines for this one and novel viruses can jump from species and
+
+01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:32.640
+can pandemic be false PCR false positives are rare asymptomatic spread
+
+01:47:32.640 --> 01:47:38.360
+was real and they still believe it is real my neighbors still believe it's
+
+01:47:38.360 --> 01:47:45.760
+real she tested positive for covid and her husband made her isolate in her
+
+01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:52.640
+bedroom for five days and she didn't come out I mean it's people are that they
+
+01:47:52.640 --> 01:47:58.040
+believe it and they live right next door to me they were just here for the party
+
+01:47:58.040 --> 01:48:06.320
+and they know how we think but they can't snap it they can't turn it off they
+
+01:48:06.320 --> 01:48:11.880
+can't stop because they took the test and the test said positive you know it's
+
+01:48:11.880 --> 01:48:16.160
+like if your husband took a pregnancy test and it said positive would you
+
+01:48:16.160 --> 01:48:20.800
+believe it was right I mean the conflated background signal is the thing you have
+
+01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:24.680
+to understand because we don't know what that conflated background signal is is
+
+01:48:24.680 --> 01:48:31.760
+it really coronaviruses is it really human RNA is it human RNA sequences see
+
+01:48:31.760 --> 01:48:36.760
+the problem with it is is that up until 2020 we knew that coronaviruses had a
+
+01:48:36.760 --> 01:48:42.240
+lot of homology with our own proteins and in fact that's what everybody was
+
+01:48:42.240 --> 01:48:45.600
+complaining about in the very beginning when we decided to use the spike as the
+
+01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:49.400
+transfection because using the spike is the transfection it's got a lot of
+
+01:48:49.400 --> 01:48:54.480
+epitopes in it that aren't so not human and so we risk mimicry we risking this
+
+01:48:54.480 --> 01:48:58.680
+potential auto immunity there's lots of things in there that we might not want
+
+01:48:59.160 --> 01:49:04.720
+platelet factor for a mile in this kind of thing and that's what makes
+
+01:49:04.720 --> 01:49:07.800
+epi-backs so interesting is they knew that already they knew that that was
+
+01:49:07.800 --> 01:49:15.120
+screenable and so it's not like all this stuff wasn't known Robert Malone was
+
+01:49:15.120 --> 01:49:22.280
+working with that company for 15 years no eight years he definitely knew just
+
+01:49:22.280 --> 01:49:29.040
+like he knew Peter Colis knew that you can't target an mRNA encased in a lipid
+
+01:49:29.040 --> 01:49:34.680
+nanoparticle to a particular part of your body by intramuscular injection so when
+
+01:49:34.680 --> 01:49:41.360
+Robert Malone went on Brett Weinstein's podcast in 2021 and said that he thought
+
+01:49:41.360 --> 01:49:47.240
+that they probably fixed that problem that's absolute bullshit and there's no
+
+01:49:47.240 --> 01:49:53.240
+other word for it that was a bald face lie he knew that Peter Colis had never
+
+01:49:53.240 --> 01:49:57.120
+solved that problem and that's Peter Colis knew he never solved that problem
+
+01:49:57.120 --> 01:50:07.880
+he had burnt five postdocs on it five postdocs were burnt on trying to get the
+
+01:50:07.880 --> 01:50:15.720
+LNP's of Peter Colis to target somewhere and they couldn't even get the real easy
+
+01:50:15.880 --> 01:50:22.840
+target like the liver to work very well that's where we're at lies upon lies
+
+01:50:22.840 --> 01:50:28.000
+upon lies and some of them are assumptions some of them are dumb when you hear
+
+01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:33.000
+Peter Colis say that when that when that Pfizer report came out and they said
+
+01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:38.720
+that the vaccine was 95% effective what did Peter Colis do he went and got a
+
+01:50:38.720 --> 01:50:45.240
+glass of scotch and started drinking that's exactly what he said I'm not really
+
+01:50:45.240 --> 01:50:50.040
+sure what to what to think about this I'm not really sure how to push it I do
+
+01:50:50.040 --> 01:50:52.800
+know that my voice needs a little bit of a break though I can feel it a little
+
+01:50:52.800 --> 01:50:55.680
+bit in the back so I'm gonna give it a little rest because I did rupture
+
+01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:59.800
+something back there so something needs healing I'm sure but there was
+
+01:50:59.800 --> 01:51:04.680
+definitely endemic background of something that they misconstrued as the
+
+01:51:04.680 --> 01:51:09.720
+novel spread of something else and they use the protocols to fill it to fool us
+
+01:51:10.120 --> 01:51:13.200
+and protocols were actually murder not COVID and
+
+01:51:13.200 --> 01:51:18.040
+transfection is not medicine now it could have been an infectious clone
+
+01:51:18.040 --> 01:51:22.800
+release that's my favorite explanation the only question is how far does the
+
+01:51:22.800 --> 01:51:26.320
+clone spread how much did they spread was it really only three people and three
+
+01:51:26.320 --> 01:51:31.800
+sequences and and and three seeded narratives or was it really a whole
+
+01:51:31.800 --> 01:51:37.200
+hospital of in northern Italy and a whole bunch of people in Wuhan and in Iran I
+
+01:51:37.280 --> 01:51:42.280
+don't know but if we actually considered it a crime and actually started to think
+
+01:51:42.280 --> 01:51:46.280
+about the plausible biology that's available to these people that's what
+
+01:51:46.280 --> 01:51:50.520
+we would be considering an infectious clone release could have been a
+
+01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:54.680
+transfection agent as well what's the difference between a transfection agent
+
+01:51:54.680 --> 01:52:01.120
+and an infectious clone an infectious clone release is is the mRNA or sorry
+
+01:52:01.120 --> 01:52:08.840
+the RNA of a coronavirus which is presumed to be self-replicating so it
+
+01:52:08.840 --> 01:52:14.000
+has a RNA dependent RNA polymerase and 30 other accessory proteins which allow
+
+01:52:14.000 --> 01:52:21.080
+the assembly of coronavirus particles whereas a transfection agent release
+
+01:52:21.080 --> 01:52:26.280
+might have just been mRNA which expresses a spike or expresses an
+
+01:52:26.320 --> 01:52:32.520
+immunogen which would produce the the false positives that they needed or
+
+01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:38.040
+produce the I can only be really the false positives that they needed so the
+
+01:52:38.040 --> 01:52:41.840
+transfection agent might work if you transfected the spike protein and an
+
+01:52:41.840 --> 01:52:45.920
+end protein or something like that and then you knew that your PCR was going to
+
+01:52:45.920 --> 01:52:50.040
+test for those then a a transfection agent of just the end protein would work
+
+01:52:50.040 --> 01:52:55.080
+if your PCR is only going to test for the end protein but I think it depended on
+
+01:52:55.080 --> 01:52:57.880
+what country you're in some countries were testing for this bike some were
+
+01:52:57.880 --> 01:53:01.440
+doing RNA dependent RNA polymerase some were doing RNA dependent polymerase and
+
+01:53:01.440 --> 01:53:06.680
+and I think America now is doing three different ends or something like that so
+
+01:53:06.680 --> 01:53:11.280
+it's changed over time but the protocols have always been murder and
+
+01:53:11.280 --> 01:53:16.360
+transfection has always not been medicine and the same thing goes for this
+
+01:53:16.360 --> 01:53:20.400
+trap we've been working on this one for a long time but I'm pretty sure that the
+
+01:53:20.400 --> 01:53:26.320
+no-virus people are gonna vanish into sort of insignificance at some point as
+
+01:53:26.320 --> 01:53:33.000
+the the ridiculousness of their stance becomes more and more obvious and the
+
+01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:38.760
+way that they will continue to sort of push for is instead of protocols and
+
+01:53:38.760 --> 01:53:47.920
+push you know unrelated cursory issues to make you ask the wrong question is the
+
+01:53:47.920 --> 01:53:53.200
+best the absolute best way to put it because if your question is are there
+
+01:53:53.200 --> 01:53:58.040
+viruses or not you're asking the wrong question because we know that they can
+
+01:53:58.040 --> 01:54:03.560
+aerosolize lipid nanoparticles we know that they can aerosolize RNA and DNA we
+
+01:54:03.560 --> 01:54:08.320
+know that they can make infectious clones by the leader we know that they can make
+
+01:54:08.320 --> 01:54:16.800
+recombinant DNA and recombinant RNA in the laboratory in quantity and so are
+
+01:54:16.800 --> 01:54:21.880
+there real viruses in nature is secondary to the fact that so much of the
+
+01:54:21.880 --> 01:54:25.920
+technology necessary to make it appear as though there was a pandemic was
+
+01:54:25.920 --> 01:54:31.880
+already rare to go and I think the best way to look at the no-virus people is
+
+01:54:31.880 --> 01:54:39.600
+just go back to 2020 go back to 2020 and watch a few Andy Kaufman Andrew
+
+01:54:39.600 --> 01:54:45.480
+Kaufman lectures and you'll see that I'm totally right because in those
+
+01:54:45.520 --> 01:54:50.360
+lectures he doesn't talk about there being no virus he talks about them being
+
+01:54:50.360 --> 01:54:55.880
+unable to isolate it he talks about them lying about it and he talks about them
+
+01:54:55.880 --> 01:55:01.560
+probably being exosomes and the PCR is just detecting that that the that the
+
+01:55:01.560 --> 01:55:06.200
+sequencing reaction is really amplifying amplicons it could easily be parts of
+
+01:55:06.200 --> 01:55:12.480
+the human the human genome or the human proteome and if you do that and then
+
+01:55:12.480 --> 01:55:17.120
+use a computer program to assemble them into a coronavirus it's not the same
+
+01:55:17.120 --> 01:55:23.320
+thing as finding a coronavirus and all of those arguments from 2020 of the no
+
+01:55:23.320 --> 01:55:32.000
+virus people are totally 100% right and then they stopped and then they started
+
+01:55:32.000 --> 01:55:39.440
+talking about foyas and they started talking exclusively about isolation
+
+01:55:39.440 --> 01:55:45.320
+and purification and they made it seem like that was because this is the
+
+01:55:45.320 --> 01:55:52.160
+argument this is how you win but it's not that's not how you win that's how you
+
+01:55:52.160 --> 01:55:57.440
+stall people out and that's how you get people asked the wrong question I'm
+
+01:55:57.440 --> 01:56:00.800
+convinced of it otherwise they would have been saying a long time ago that the
+
+01:56:00.800 --> 01:56:04.720
+protocols are murder and transfection is a medicine and we don't think there are
+
+01:56:04.720 --> 01:56:09.000
+real viruses but instead they just say we don't think there are real viruses we
+
+01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:14.360
+don't want to talk to anybody who doesn't think the same it's ridiculous and so
+
+01:56:14.360 --> 01:56:19.360
+in this conflated background signal the PCR test used in 2020 in 2021 were not
+
+01:56:19.360 --> 01:56:23.960
+specific for a particular coronavirus the PCR tests have many sources of false
+
+01:56:23.960 --> 01:56:30.680
+positives besides high cycle count including human transcripts the respiratory
+
+01:56:30.680 --> 01:56:34.120
+disease that leads to a secondary ammonia is a regular cause of death that we
+
+01:56:34.120 --> 01:56:40.720
+stopped treating appropriately in 2020 say it again respiratory disease that
+
+01:56:40.720 --> 01:56:44.080
+leads to secondary pneumonia is a regular cause of death that we stopped
+
+01:56:44.080 --> 01:56:52.080
+treating appropriately in 2020 in 2021 and I have been saying this for years
+
+01:56:52.080 --> 01:56:58.200
+years changing the standard protocols for treatment of a general respiratory
+
+01:56:58.200 --> 01:57:01.240
+disease that was the primary cause of excess death during the pandemic
+
+01:57:01.240 --> 01:57:04.800
+additional harms were also caused by the response that included lockdowns
+
+01:57:04.800 --> 01:57:09.400
+etc. Additional arms can also be matched to the use of specific agents
+
+01:57:09.400 --> 01:57:13.360
+including Madazlam and Rendezivir. Her early treatment must be considered
+
+01:57:13.360 --> 01:57:18.520
+protocol by protocol because no single agent is likely to have been the silver
+
+01:57:18.520 --> 01:57:22.760
+bullet for whatever they sprayed distributed or lied about and it certainly
+
+01:57:22.760 --> 01:57:26.040
+wasn't going to cure anybody that was being improperly ventilated or treated
+
+01:57:26.040 --> 01:57:30.960
+with Remdesivir. We spend money to make sure the danger of zoonotic pandemics
+
+01:57:30.960 --> 01:57:36.200
+is taken very seriously that's really the bottom line if we spend money to get
+
+01:57:36.200 --> 01:57:42.240
+papers published that that claim pandemic potential and we we fund
+
+01:57:42.240 --> 01:57:46.680
+organizations like the Equal Health Alliance to make sure that people think
+
+01:57:46.680 --> 01:57:52.280
+that there's pandemic potential and and Nathan Wolf's organization metal
+
+01:57:52.280 --> 01:58:01.200
+biota same thing it is the governing forces trying to set up this mythology
+
+01:58:01.200 --> 01:58:08.320
+this mythology of a natural pandemic and a man-made one and unavoidable because
+
+01:58:08.320 --> 01:58:14.560
+with climate change and our population and deforestation and guess who's one of
+
+01:58:14.560 --> 01:58:24.000
+the biggest donors of Equal Health Alliance palm oil companies palm oil
+
+01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:33.680
+companies deforestation donating to to organizations that are helping with
+
+01:58:33.680 --> 01:58:42.040
+climate change is a great way to launder money for palm oil companies
+
+01:58:42.200 --> 01:58:46.240
+ladies and gentlemen you can tell the liars because they're not talking about
+
+01:58:46.240 --> 01:58:49.600
+the PCR anymore they're not talking about variants and sequencing fraud
+
+01:58:49.600 --> 01:58:52.160
+they're not talking about death certificate fraud that happened from
+
+01:58:52.160 --> 01:58:58.760
+California to New York and not talking about purity fraud protein folding
+
+01:58:58.760 --> 01:59:03.240
+transfection in general and they forgot completely about natural immunity that
+
+01:59:03.240 --> 01:59:08.000
+I was talking about in 2020 so that's how you tell they're doing this for a
+
+01:59:08.000 --> 01:59:11.760
+reason because they've got only this chance to get this many people on board
+
+01:59:11.760 --> 01:59:15.680
+to brainwash this many people to collect this much data that's really all
+
+01:59:15.680 --> 01:59:20.600
+this is about they don't need all of us they need our kids time they've got 30
+
+01:59:20.600 --> 01:59:24.720
+years they've got 40 years and in 40 years I might be dead so it's only my
+
+01:59:24.720 --> 01:59:29.720
+sons that'll be here and those are the ones they're trying to get not us
+
+01:59:29.720 --> 01:59:33.120
+ladies and gentlemen intramuscular injection of any combination of
+
+01:59:33.120 --> 01:59:36.600
+substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb and
+
+01:59:36.600 --> 01:59:42.440
+transfection is not immunization please stop all transfections in humans
+
+01:59:42.440 --> 01:59:49.880
+full stop full stop please just really stop it stop it all don't do it any more
+
+01:59:49.880 --> 01:59:55.840
+please get in there right there yes Mike Vandenberg mixed-day no that's not
+
+01:59:55.840 --> 02:00:01.640
+what I did I did this one oh I see
+
+02:00:01.640 --> 02:00:09.080
+I don't know what to say ladies and gentlemen I hope that the surprise was
+
+02:00:09.080 --> 02:00:14.040
+worth it I hope that you weren't let down we have 137 viewers which is a new
+
+02:00:14.040 --> 02:00:19.040
+record for giga-home biological so maybe my voice did something for us ladies and
+
+02:00:19.040 --> 02:00:21.800
+gentlemen stop all transfections and humans because they're trying to eliminate
+
+02:00:21.800 --> 02:00:26.160
+the control group by any means necessary this has been giga-home biological a
+
+02:00:26.160 --> 02:00:29.840
+high-resistance low noise information brief brought to you by a biologist it's
+
+02:00:29.880 --> 02:00:38.320
+21st of October 2023 this is day 46 in a run of several hundred so grab your
+
+02:00:38.320 --> 02:00:44.720
+popcorn and your hot tea and I will see you again tomorrow ladies and gentlemen
+
+02:00:44.720 --> 02:00:51.480
+hopefully the voice will be the same or even deeper yeah I still have a little
+
+02:00:51.480 --> 02:00:54.000
+you know I gotta
+
+02:01:00.120 --> 02:01:15.480
+thanks a lot Pamela thanks everybody for all your support it's really been
+
+02:01:15.480 --> 02:01:21.280
+unbelievable and I don't know what to say other than I'm when I coughed that
+
+02:01:21.280 --> 02:01:25.160
+thing up this morning and I spoke to my sons I started crying pretty fast
+
+02:01:25.240 --> 02:01:30.440
+afterward because it I've been saying it for a long time if you give me my
+
+02:01:30.440 --> 02:01:36.920
+voice back I'm gonna definitely use it and here we are so it's not a matter of
+
+02:01:36.920 --> 02:01:40.280
+what is true the counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true ladies and
+
+02:01:40.280 --> 02:01:45.880
+gentlemen so let's start teaching biology share this stream please ladies and
+
+02:01:45.880 --> 02:01:49.680
+gentlemen share my work that's the best way to support it I love you guys see
+
+02:01:49.680 --> 02:01:51.960
+tomorrow
+
+02:01:55.160 --> 02:01:57.220
+you
+
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+Gonna try and pack this all in in about a half an hour, because Mark is coming on at 8, and so I don't wanna get it his way, I'm just gonna kind of be a pre-show and give that the voice just a little bit of a rest
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+The schedule for 16 minutes next is going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television.
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+People everywhere are starting to listen to him.
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+It's embarrassing.
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+Kids deserve a lot of credit.
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+This town's been flooded with phony twenties for weeks.
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+Oh, it was nothing, really.
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+But old Mr. Pietro posing as a doorman sure had us fooled for a while.
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+He really gave himself away when he put on his little puppet show for us.
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+The real hero of Scooby-Doo.
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+By the way, where is he?
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+Oh, no. Look at him.
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+Like I said before, what a ham.
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+Whoopee, whoopee, whoopee, whoop.
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+God damn tea was too hot. I just burnt my throat. Dang it.
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+Hello, everybody. Welcome to the show. Good to see you guys here. Thanks for joining me again tonight.
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+Sound just a little scratchy, but I guess it's just something I'm going to get out of my throat here.
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+No problems.
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+I slept like a million dollars last night, which was just spectacular.
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+If anything, my voice is a little bit lower today than it was yesterday.
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+This is Gigo in biological and high-resistance local information free on how to stand my hours.
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+2023, 22 of October.
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+And we are still trying to fight through this limited spectrum of bait, which we have been trapped in by TV and social media.
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+And we're still trying to make what is perceived to be true, actually true, Gigo's in general.
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+Because as of right now, we're still misleadingly young, and that's going to lead to disaster.
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+We don't fix that real soon.
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+But they've been doing it to us for a while, right? That's why we all fell for it.
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+And so anybody can come to life. It's never too late.
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+And so we've got to make sure that our family and friends understand that it's not too late to admit that, you know,
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+something screwy is going on and I should have known better.
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+But it's getting more and more obvious that people have to actively ignore what's going on otherwise it's just obvious.
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+So yeah, welcome to the show. Welcome to the show.
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+We're going to do a short one tonight because, like I said, although I think I'm firing on all cylinders more or less,
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+it still feels a little alien.
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+And it still feels like I should be a little more careful.
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+And so I'm not sure what to say about the obvious sort of settling in at an even slightly lower octave than yesterday.
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+But it's been pretty consistent all day. And in fact, when I woke up this morning, if you can believe it, it was even lower than this.
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+I don't know what to say. It's still, it's pretty close to the original instrument, but, you know, obviously things happened in my larnix or voice box or whatever.
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+And so, yeah, we're just going to keep playing it by ear. I'm not, I don't feel like I'm stressing it at all.
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+So it's, you know, just, I'm just going with it.
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+Yeah, it was obviously inflamed. It was obvious. I mean, there's all kinds of things wrong with it.
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+But now, I don't know, I'm just trying to keep my throat clean.
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+I've been gargling some kind of colloidal silver mouthwash.
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+I've been, you know, trying to brush my teeth a couple times a day, which I normally do, but now a little bit more vigilantly maybe.
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+I don't know. I don't know what to do. I'm just trying to play it by ear and keep thinking because I'm definitely thankful.
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+So don't take the bait on TV and social media. That's been our message for a long time now. And it is this Scooby-Doo mystery that they're still trying to get us to solve.
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+And so, as we approach Halloween and then more importantly, Thanksgiving, when a lot of us are going to come together with our family and friends, it would be really good for us to have some, let's say, talking points ready to go.
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+And so I'm kind of interested in input on that perspective.
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+So if you, you know, you're that emailing type or you got an opinion that you always wanted to share in the next couple weeks, it might be a good idea because I think this is, this is one of those thanksgivings where a lot of progress might be made.
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+So that's my hope.
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+There are all these books that are out there that people might be talking about as they sit at your, you know, your, your dinner table.
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+And so it might be good to already have something to talk about.
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+And then this book apparently is going to come out on December 5th of course.
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+I imagine it's going to be pushed back even farther because that's how this clown show goes.
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+But hopefully it will be December 5th and so that we can, you know, make some progress from that, that sort of spiking of the football there.
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+We're still trying to, I'm still trying to teach everybody that these people have been put into place.
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+They were put in place a long time ago.
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+I guess I get this music out of here.
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+They were put in place a long time ago.
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+And it's not something that a lot of us have been aware of for a long time.
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+I mean, I, at one point during the pandemic.
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+Thought that it was a borderline miracle that I finally got in touch with Brett Weinstein and that I was on a signal chat with him made it seem so like, you know, progress was really being made.
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+And that's in the end.
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+What we're, what we're dealing with here is that this is the control mechanism by which that Noam Chomsky quote in the beginning there is really executed this limited spectrum of debate.
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+But then a lively discussion within that limited spectrum to make people think that there's a real genuine resistance, a genuine dissident, you know, opinion.
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+And that's what this intellectual dark web does in a nutshell.
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+And it's interesting to note that that that intellectual dark web was put in place around 2018 or 2019 largely by people like Elon Musk and Peter Teal.
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+And then we now know that Peter Teal is invested in this antibody patent paradox to the hilt.
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+It just becomes obvious that this is the story right here.
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+The only question is, are we, am I fooling myself into thinking that what's on this screen is somehow revolutionary rather than exactly what they want.
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+Because maybe the idea is to tear down the old system to expose it as garbage, but to play a shell game and get everybody to accept the idea that MRNA is a wonderful next generation replacement for this previously misguided intramuscular injection methodology.
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+That's a distinct possibility that I don't dismiss lightly.
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+And in fact, I don't dismiss at all.
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+And I'm still trying to check myself to make sure that I'm not really just a puppet already here leading the charge to burn it all down or something like that, which is not really what I mean.
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+But with regard to the vaccine schedule, I basically mean that.
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+Let me see.
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+Do I have this set up correctly?
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+I think I do.
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+So this illusion of consensus is what we're trying to break.
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+It's these people that we're trying to pin down.
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+And I'm going to continue to work on that on and off for the coming weeks.
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+But right now, I think it's better for my voice and us that we do more of these study halls for the next couple weeks where, where maybe I'll take some notes.
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+Maybe I won't depending on what it is.
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+I'll just stop and talk about some of the things that are here.
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+And tonight I have a very last night.
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+Sorry.
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+We had this.
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+We had this show with with Annie DeGroote.
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+And actually, that should be.
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+Yeah, it should be root.
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+Groot.
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+And it's DeGroote, I think.
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+And in Dutch, you would say, oh, long old for that.
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+So that's DeGroote.
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+Why?
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+I haven't said a Dutch word since I broke my throat.
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+So that's weird because that's actually back there.
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+DeGroote.
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+And now I can say.
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+Anyway, Annie DeGroote is the leader of this epivax company.
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+And so we were trying to, I was trying to take a little bit out of this talk about T-cell epitopes and a little bit about general immunology that I have been talking about before.
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+That the T-cell epitopes were actually important, that they would actually look for them.
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+And that there was this possibility that they would use T-cell epitopes planted in a biologic to sort of up or down, you know, up regulate the immunogenicity of an otherwise non-immunogenic protein.
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+And so they could have done that with a coronavirus spike protein, which may not be very immunogenic because it has overlap with human sequences, which she showed in that discussion to be actually tolerogenic.
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+So coronavirus proteins, especially the spike proteins, are designed to be tolerogenic.
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+So if you wanted to make a coronavirus spike protein, one of the ways to do it, an epivax technology would have definitely been a way to do it, would be to take one of these or more of these small epitopes and insert them into a spike protein and then claim that this was the spike protein that you found on this novel coronavirus so that when you used it as an immunogen, it would already work.
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+One of the other possibilities, of course, is to insert some novel sequence into the spike protein of the vaccine that you took, that you're basing on the viral protein.
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+And either way, you would be doing the same thing, but it's ultra clever, right?
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+If you put it in the wild sequence, and then when it's in the wild sequence, you just kind of shrug your shoulders.
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+Well, guess it's there, even though all along, you knew that you had already designed it to have many of those epitopes and to be highly immunogenic.
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+So that's one of those things where, again, this is where I tend to agree with people like Kevin McCarron because this is a very, was a fine line.
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+And she was showing you this hot scale of almost like a skull ball rating of peppers, but she was looking at immunogenicity of proteins.
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+And then talking about these small T cell epitopes and the more of them that there were, the higher on the immunogenicity scale, these proteins showed up.
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+So that's extraordinary because then the next step there is, of course, can you make proteins that are more immunogenic?
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+And her answer, of course, would be, who's asking? And if it was the DOD, she would say, absolutely, I can.
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+And so here again, you just got to understand that although they have this technology deploying, it still would require recombinant DNA to make the RNA, and then that RNA would essentially be a clone, right?
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+Because that's how you would do it. You've got to make it perfect.
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+So there's, or the protein from it. But anyway, I wanted to watch this video because this video is another dude that works for Abselara, but he does the machine learning.
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+And it's a short video. I can get it done by eight. And I'm going to stop it before it's all the way done because I really want to do is just get to the technology that they use to sort through these cells.
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+So you can see the basic methodology isn't that magical.
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+And then you can see really how actually it's possible that these guys just came together because of this microfluidics technology.
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+And, I mean, glow on the dark beads and stuff like that is so basic technology that they use. It's actually quite extraordinary.
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+And in a way, it's foolproof, but also, you know, you see again why all this talk that we've watched a couple of lectures of these people now.
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+And they make these grave, great excuse me, grand statements about what they can accomplish and what they can do.
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+And they have all this jargon and stuff. But in the end, it's just little tiny single cell wells that they're able to fill with single cells.
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+There's little beads in there and there's some fluorescence and it's not really that clever.
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+And that's, you know, maybe sounds arrogant from my perspective or from your perspective for me to say that.
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+But I just, I don't want, I want, what I want you to see is that actually the technology to make that little container with microfluidic chambers is more important to this than the beads because the beads, I mean, it's, we're going to explain it when we listen to it.
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+Let's just do that now.
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+And I will shrink my head.
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+I'm Fabius and I joined a seller six months ago and I'm now leading the machine learning team.
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+My background is machine learning and software engineering.
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+Before, I spent 10 years on Google speech recognition team, followed by another two years at Google health, working on computer vision for radiology.
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+So first, here's a disclaimer about this talk. I'll give you a few seconds to read it over. This is from our lawyers.
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+Next, my plan for today is to tell you about a seller is technology platform.
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+Oh, so that, that part, just so you know that I didn't miss it, that part was just something where he, he has this statement up here that said this presentation contains forward looking statements.
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+So he's just, he's basically saying that we're making a bunch of predictions, but as a result, the forward looking statements may not prove accurate.
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+And so you can't hold this accountable of what we're talking shit about right now. We can't actually accomplish.
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+So just, it's not some special disclaimer. It's just kind of sad, actually, because then he's admitting that this is just a sales pitch with a lot of tough talk.
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+From our lawyers.
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+Next, my plan for today is to tell you about a seller is technology platform for discovering therapeutic antibodies and how machine learning makes a key part of it.
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+At the highest level, we at a seller are a tech company. We make long term investments in teams and technology so that we can fast track drug development and we partner with drug developers from large pharmaceutical companies to small biotech startups.
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+We help them move quickly, reduce their costs and tackle their toughest problems.
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+We built a modern technology platform for drug development and it ensures that the best science is quickly translated into new therapies so that we can benefit patients.
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+Our arena for drug discovery is the adaptive immune system. And like all the biology, it's quickly becoming a goldmine for data science.
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+Within each individual nature is operating at this massively diverse scale.
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+Every one of us can make billions of different antibodies. It was almost like he kind of slipped there, right? He was going to say a goldmine and then he realized it all the way.
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+You could see that he knew that was kind of like a double meaning. You know, it's a lot of money and also a lot of data.
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+The ab in our name of Celera is a nod to these antibodies or abs as we affectionately call them. They're a crucial part of our immune system.
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+This little green Y shaped symbol underneath represents the antibodies in this talk and it gives you a guarantee you during this entire talk he's not going to stop calling them antibodies is never going to call them abs.
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+And that is just such a dumb statement. I can't. Anyway, I'm wasting time.
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+Big idea of the shape of an antibody molecule.
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+So at any given moment, we've got millions of immune cells making different antibodies and these antibodies form a molecular database based on the state of our health.
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+They serve sort of as a memory of all the previous infection and disease challenges that we've ever faced.
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+But one of the big problems in understanding adaptive immunity is the lack of technology to read this database to understand it and to change it.
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+We can tackle this problem by analyzing the individual immune cells. Each of them produces one of the billions of antibody molecules a person can make.
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+And every immune cell contains its own DNA code, which describes how to make a potentially therapeutic antibody.
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+So the solution is to search through the immune system's vast database and find ways to interrogate one at a time.
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+You have millions of cells that underlie our adaptive immune system.
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+Appsellors drug discovery platform uses microfluidics, machine learning and other computation and customer robotics and automation to search, decode and analyze the natural immune system at record speed and depth.
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+The speed and depth of our technology has redefined how antibody drugs are discovered.
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+We've compressed a process that can take years into just weeks.
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+And this is kind of giving you a bird's eye bird's eye view of what we do.
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+It starts by sourcing a natural immune response, which can be in the form of a blood sample from a person or an animal exposed to a target pathogen, or from an animal immunized with some immunogen.
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+The immune system can actually be directed to make antibodies against any target, such as those important in cancer or other targets that can cause other diseases.
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+Next, we search the sample using our high throughput single cell screening pipeline.
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+Here, we examine millions of immune cells to identify hundreds of high potential target specific antibodies.
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+And this happens in just a matter of days.
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+We use machine learning and computer vision here in ways I'll describe later.
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+Computer vision. That's really funny. That's not.
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+It's automated confocal microscopy and my guess is. But anyway, it's funny.
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+Situate the genomic profile of the single cell antibodies we find within the broader content.
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+Oh, my God. I just realized something, Mark. You're not going to believe this.
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+But remember when Robert Malone was on the Tommy podcast with Hatfield? And I told you, he was on there.
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+And he said, he said a completely different methodology for how he screened those drugs.
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+So in one interview or more, one more than one interview, he said that he, it's okay.
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+You can come through just in more than one interview.
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+He said that he had made an x-ray crystallography model of the three CL protease and then interface that with all of the known drugs.
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+And pharmaceuticals in the FDA catalog.
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+And in another, in that specific Tommy interview, what he said was, is that they used high throughput confocal,
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+my laser confocal microscopy, which is exactly, exactly what you would use in this scenario and what they're going to describe in five minutes,
+
+22:42.700 --> 22:48.700
+which is very, very curious because the two aren't the same.
+
+22:48.700 --> 22:57.700
+If you use a computer model of x-ray crystallography of an enzyme and interface that with computer models of different pharmaceuticals,
+
+22:57.700 --> 23:06.700
+that's entirely different than using live samples and high throughput laser scanning confocal microscopy, which is certainly how they're doing this.
+
+23:06.700 --> 23:08.700
+So that's curious to me.
+
+23:08.700 --> 23:17.700
+Next up, the overall immune response, which we can further sample using a process called repertoire profiling, and I'll describe that in more detail later.
+
+23:17.700 --> 23:24.700
+The most promising antibodies we find are expressed and further characterized based on approximately 500 different factors.
+
+23:24.700 --> 23:35.700
+And again, here we use machine learning, bioinformatics, and advanced data visualization techniques to determine their developability and suitability as drug candidates.
+
+23:36.700 --> 23:44.700
+So the result is a set of fully characterized and validated antibodies ready for development as potential therapies.
+
+23:44.700 --> 23:53.700
+As a side note, sometimes, when I talk to people outside of epsilon, one of the things they misunderstand is the difference between an antibody and a vaccine.
+
+23:53.700 --> 24:04.700
+So vaccines are designed to teach your body to make its own antibodies, but that process can take many weeks, and not everyone can survive an infection for that long,
+
+24:04.700 --> 24:09.700
+which is why you typically need to be vaccinated well in advance of your exposure to a disease or a pathogen.
+
+24:09.700 --> 24:10.700
+Yeah.
+
+24:10.700 --> 24:13.700
+But therapeutic antibodies can give you a shortcut.
+
+24:13.700 --> 24:22.700
+They give someone immediate access to a potent antibody long before their immune system could have figured it out, how to make something equally effective.
+
+24:22.700 --> 24:26.700
+So next, I'd like to walk you through more of the details of these steps.
+
+24:26.700 --> 24:32.700
+And along the way, I'll explain a few more ideas from immunology and also some of our technological innovations.
+
+24:32.700 --> 24:38.700
+And as you might imagine, there are many places on this pipeline where machine learning comes in handy.
+
+24:38.700 --> 24:42.700
+So I'll talk about those as well.
+
+24:42.700 --> 24:46.700
+I mentioned earlier that it all starts with a natural immune response.
+
+24:46.700 --> 24:53.700
+So something that's really fascinating to me is that all vertebrates have what's called an adaptive immune system.
+
+24:53.700 --> 24:57.700
+It starts to kick in within a week or two weeks of exposure to a pathogen.
+
+24:57.700 --> 25:08.700
+And unlike the rest of our body's cells, adaptive immune cells have special tricks to rearrange and mutate their own DNA as they try to create better antibodies.
+
+25:08.700 --> 25:16.700
+If you've ever implemented a genetic search algorithm on a computer, it's actually a pretty good analogy for what's going on with these B cells.
+
+25:16.700 --> 25:22.700
+Here, the fitness function is how well the resulting antibody binds to the target.
+
+25:22.700 --> 25:29.700
+So the B cells, what they're doing is searching for a protein structure that docks with a pathogen and binds to it.
+
+25:29.700 --> 25:34.700
+And the search is massively parallel. It's happening all over your body as the B cells divide.
+
+25:34.700 --> 25:42.700
+The result of the search, which progresses over the weeks and months following your exposure to a pathogen, is a huge diversity of B cells,
+
+25:42.700 --> 25:45.700
+each of which produces its own antibody protein.
+
+25:46.700 --> 25:56.700
+But since these B cells are scattered throughout the immune organs and the blood mixed with everything else, getting the right ones is like finding a needle in a haystack.
+
+25:56.700 --> 26:06.700
+So to look through the haystack, we developed an assay that contains hundreds of thousands of B cells in tiny isolated chambers on a microfluidic device, the size of a credit card.
+
+26:07.700 --> 26:11.700
+So one of the patents will be how they fill these cells with only one cell.
+
+26:11.700 --> 26:18.700
+There's probably a process or a robot or a series of solutions, whatever they do to get that.
+
+26:18.700 --> 26:21.700
+That would be one of the patented processes here.
+
+26:21.700 --> 26:26.700
+One way we can use it is to load individual B cells into the device's chambers.
+
+26:26.700 --> 26:30.700
+So here, the B cell is depicted as the green circle inside the chamber.
+
+26:31.700 --> 26:40.700
+And alongside the B cell, we can also load these tiny beads that are coated with different target antigen proteins, shown here as gray spheres.
+
+26:40.700 --> 26:46.700
+These isolated B cells in the chamber will then secrete their own antibody inside that chamber.
+
+26:46.700 --> 26:56.700
+So if the B cell is secreting a good antibody, an antibody that binds to the proteins on the beads, it'll stick to the beads that are coated with the antigen.
+
+26:57.700 --> 27:00.700
+Both the beads and the antibodies can be fluorescently tagged.
+
+27:00.700 --> 27:04.700
+And this results in a visual signature when the antibodies stick to the beads.
+
+27:04.700 --> 27:08.700
+We can pick up this signature using high-throughput fluorescence microscopy.
+
+27:08.700 --> 27:10.700
+And just as a side note...
+
+27:10.700 --> 27:14.700
+High-throughput fluorescence microscopy. You heard him say it.
+
+27:14.700 --> 27:19.700
+That's exactly what Robert Malone said on the Tommy podcast with Hatfield.
+
+27:19.700 --> 27:20.700
+I'm sure of it.
+
+27:20.700 --> 27:25.700
+Sometimes we also load other kinds of beads coated with proteins we don't want the antibodies to bind to.
+
+27:25.700 --> 27:30.700
+And again, whether or not the antibodies are sticking to those beads is also visible in the fluorescent...
+
+27:30.700 --> 27:34.700
+No, this is clever. And they would get to narrow things down a lot.
+
+27:34.700 --> 27:38.700
+But they're still left with hundreds of antibody candidates that bind their target proteins.
+
+27:38.700 --> 27:45.700
+So they could probably repeat this over and over with an ever more specific antigen set in here.
+
+27:45.700 --> 27:50.700
+But I don't think he's going to explain that totally here.
+
+27:50.700 --> 27:55.700
+So, as I mentioned, there are over 250,000 chambers in a single microfluidic device.
+
+27:55.700 --> 28:03.700
+And our high-throughput microscopy system images each chamber at several different wavelengths to create a multi-channel image,
+
+28:03.700 --> 28:07.700
+which is depicted on the bottom right in sort of a cartoon format.
+
+28:07.700 --> 28:11.700
+I have no doubt in my mind that this works for finding monoclonal antibodies.
+
+28:11.700 --> 28:13.700
+I have no doubt in my mind. It's a great idea.
+
+28:13.700 --> 28:16.700
+But now what they're doing is they're going to sequence these cells.
+
+28:16.700 --> 28:18.700
+Vision model models can help us.
+
+28:18.700 --> 28:24.700
+They're going to sequence these cells and then they're going to use those sequences in their informatics.
+
+28:24.700 --> 28:26.700
+That's really the trick here. You can see it.
+
+28:26.700 --> 28:28.700
+The particular binding profile that we want.
+
+28:28.700 --> 28:32.700
+For heavily multiplexed assays with many different types of beads,
+
+28:32.700 --> 28:35.700
+humans can't easily keep track of which bead types are binding and which aren't.
+
+28:35.700 --> 28:38.700
+So computer vision also enables richer multiplexing.
+
+28:38.700 --> 28:41.700
+See, machine vision, that's also just dumb.
+
+28:42.700 --> 28:48.700
+It is how you would do it in high-throughput fluorescence microscopy.
+
+28:48.700 --> 28:54.700
+You use different wavelengths and then you use a photon detector so your eye isn't seeing it.
+
+28:54.700 --> 28:58.700
+And it's using these words to try and bamboozle the audience.
+
+28:58.700 --> 29:01.700
+You're absolutely right. He's selling stock right now.
+
+29:01.700 --> 29:07.700
+But remember that a lot of how the momentum of the pandemic was created with this kind of stuff before the pandemic.
+
+29:08.700 --> 29:14.700
+This kind of momentum. We heard it in the 2019 talks that we watched two days ago where the guy was saying,
+
+29:14.700 --> 29:18.700
+he said anti-vaxxers. He said, take your flu shot.
+
+29:18.700 --> 29:23.700
+He said antibodies were the solution. He said vaccines were the only way.
+
+29:23.700 --> 29:30.700
+He said everything. So it shouldn't be underestimated how on narrative this stuff has always been
+
+29:30.700 --> 29:36.700
+and how it will remain on narrative that this technology is necessary to save us from our environment,
+
+29:36.700 --> 29:42.700
+from our mother nature. I've got about six minutes and then we're going to use a tonic live on YouTube.
+
+29:42.700 --> 29:49.700
+Our computer vision models use popular state-of-the-art architectures for classification, object detection and image segmentation.
+
+29:49.700 --> 29:56.700
+And one thing that's really important is they need to be robust and work across a wide variety of assay configurations
+
+29:56.700 --> 30:01.700
+and robust to the variance and noise that you typically see in these kinds of biological experiments.
+
+30:02.700 --> 30:09.700
+So once we've picked the hits using computer vision, we'll use an automated robotic process to recover them.
+
+30:09.700 --> 30:16.700
+And then we analyze the recovered B cells to identify the amino acid sequences of the antibodies they're producing.
+
+30:16.700 --> 30:22.700
+So what this lets us do is reproduce samples of the antibody for later characterization and validation.
+
+30:23.700 --> 30:29.700
+So one output from our bioinformatics pipeline is the genetic sequence from each B cell.
+
+30:29.700 --> 30:35.700
+And we can use this to figure out the amino acid sequences that make up each antibody.
+
+30:35.700 --> 30:39.700
+And this table is kind of a sketch of what that data looks like.
+
+30:39.700 --> 30:42.700
+So each row here is a single antibody.
+
+30:42.700 --> 30:47.700
+And each letter in the row represents an amino acid in the protein sequence.
+
+30:48.700 --> 30:53.700
+At the highest level, human antibodies are formed from two distinct amino acid chains.
+
+30:53.700 --> 30:55.700
+One is called the heavy chain.
+
+30:55.700 --> 31:01.700
+And it's shown here spanning most of the slide, the width of most of the slide, with a dark gray header.
+
+31:01.700 --> 31:05.700
+And on the right, there's a light chain with a lighter gray header.
+
+31:05.700 --> 31:10.700
+I've actually chopped out many of the heavy chains amino acids and all the amino acids from the light chain
+
+31:10.700 --> 31:12.700
+so that this table would fit on the screen.
+
+31:12.700 --> 31:16.700
+But what I want you to see is that each chain has a few different regions within it.
+
+31:16.700 --> 31:22.700
+The blue regions are called the framework regions and they provide a scaffolding structure for the antibody.
+
+31:22.700 --> 31:25.700
+And they vary less across different antibodies.
+
+31:25.700 --> 31:28.700
+Whereas the orange regions are known as the CDR loops.
+
+31:28.700 --> 31:32.700
+And they're the part of the antibody that actually determines what it's going to bind to.
+
+31:32.700 --> 31:35.700
+And so there's an incredibly rich diversity here.
+
+31:35.700 --> 31:43.700
+If you remember the idea of the genetic search, this is where most of the point mutations in the immune system search are focused
+
+31:43.700 --> 31:46.700
+is on the CDR loops.
+
+31:46.700 --> 31:51.700
+So at this point, what we've done is we've gone from an enormous haystack of images
+
+31:51.700 --> 31:56.700
+to a smaller but still daunting haystack of amino acid sequences.
+
+31:56.700 --> 32:00.700
+And as you might guess, it's hard to just read these sequences directly.
+
+32:00.700 --> 32:04.700
+But there's been an explosion of techniques in the field of natural language processing
+
+32:04.700 --> 32:09.700
+that fit perfectly onto these kinds of data sets.
+
+32:09.700 --> 32:14.700
+So you heard him in the beginning, right? He worked for Google and he did language processing AI models
+
+32:14.700 --> 32:20.700
+or machine learning models. And now he's going to apply those to understanding the antibodies.
+
+32:20.700 --> 32:25.700
+And what you're going to see is an interesting thing.
+
+32:25.700 --> 32:28.700
+And then we're going to let it go. It's like three minutes and then we're done here.
+
+32:28.700 --> 32:34.700
+One example, we can approach the complexity of this sequence space using dimensionality reduction.
+
+32:34.700 --> 32:39.700
+So what this means is we take the high dimensional amino acid sequences for each antibody
+
+32:39.700 --> 32:42.700
+and encode them into a lower dimensional embedding vector.
+
+32:42.700 --> 32:48.700
+So what you see here, each point in this plot is a single antibody heavy chain.
+
+32:48.700 --> 32:55.700
+And we've projected the sequence space down to just two dimensions so that we can plot the antibodies on the screen.
+
+32:55.700 --> 33:00.700
+And each of the three panels here shows the sequences that came from a different donor.
+
+33:00.700 --> 33:05.700
+And what's really nice about the way this turned out is that the 2D projection of the sequences
+
+33:05.700 --> 33:08.700
+isn't really clustering the donors away from one another.
+
+33:08.700 --> 33:15.700
+It could have turned out that the differences between different donors were so large that each donor would land in its own region
+
+33:15.700 --> 33:18.700
+of this two-dimensional projection space. But that didn't happen.
+
+33:18.700 --> 33:27.700
+Instead, what you see is that each donor's antibodies are well distributed across the entire two-dimensional projection space.
+
+33:28.700 --> 33:32.700
+What's cool is that if we color the antibodies using some metric of...
+
+33:32.700 --> 33:42.700
+It's not really clear to me what this two-dimensional space is and what the heavy chain U-map and whatever one and zero is.
+
+33:42.700 --> 33:44.700
+And so that makes it somewhat confusing.
+
+33:44.700 --> 33:49.700
+But let's just assume that they're using some uniform classification.
+
+33:49.700 --> 33:56.700
+And you can see that the cluster patterns across these different donors is pretty similar, which is interesting
+
+33:56.700 --> 34:04.700
+in that, again, what we saw with epivacs, there are likely certain residues in these proteins
+
+34:04.700 --> 34:11.700
+which attract the attention of the immune system for whatever reason being immunogenic, even across donors.
+
+34:11.700 --> 34:22.700
+And that should lead you to believe that this lack, almost lack of diversity here is because to a certain extent,
+
+34:22.700 --> 34:31.700
+there's a limited palette of foreign and immunogenic sequences that not surprisingly is pretty similar across humans.
+
+34:31.700 --> 34:40.700
+I mean, we use different HLA subtypes, but the diversity within that subtype from a given pathogen shouldn't be that different.
+
+34:40.700 --> 34:46.700
+What should be different is how what antibody sequence is chosen to represent that portion.
+
+34:46.700 --> 34:55.700
+And so it's curious that they cue in on the right on the same epitopes irrespective of whether they have the same HLA subtype.
+
+34:55.700 --> 35:02.700
+So what I believe this suggests from the perspective of the other technology that we saw the other day with epivacs
+
+35:02.700 --> 35:09.700
+is that the HLA specificity changes certain amino acids in the projected epitope and certain amino acids,
+
+35:09.700 --> 35:14.700
+which are known for in the selected B cells and T cells on the other side.
+
+35:14.700 --> 35:19.700
+And I should have said that up T cells and B cells on the other side of antigen presentation.
+
+35:19.700 --> 35:24.700
+So maybe that probably wasn't a very good explanation because it's no visuals here.
+
+35:24.700 --> 35:36.700
+But I think I understand this in a way that I think it makes sense that this works.
+
+35:36.700 --> 35:41.700
+I think it's a question of what can these antibodies be used for besides curing cancer.
+
+35:41.700 --> 35:44.700
+Like how well they neutralize the virus.
+
+35:44.700 --> 35:51.700
+We can see that even across donors, some factors jump out as being hotspots for potential neutralizers.
+
+35:51.700 --> 35:57.700
+So, for example, in each panel, there's this cluster of potent red antibodies in the lower left quadrant.
+
+35:57.700 --> 35:59.700
+I'll see if I can turn to Mike.
+
+35:59.700 --> 36:02.700
+So we don't even know what they stimulated this to, right?
+
+36:02.700 --> 36:05.700
+We don't know what the antigen was in this study.
+
+36:05.700 --> 36:08.700
+So it's really a vague description of what's going on.
+
+36:08.700 --> 36:17.700
+And has somebody said earlier, it's a bit like hypnosis, it's a bit, it's a bit salesy, it's a bit.
+
+36:17.700 --> 36:22.700
+It's a bit snake oily in that sense.
+
+36:22.700 --> 36:25.700
+This cluster here is what I'm talking about.
+
+36:25.700 --> 36:27.700
+It shows up in several of these panels.
+
+36:27.700 --> 36:30.700
+Good evening from Pittsburgh, Hong Kong.
+
+36:30.700 --> 36:32.700
+So this is exactly what we want to see.
+
+36:32.700 --> 36:40.700
+That our sequence embedding vectors are encoding useful information about the properties of the antibodies.
+
+36:40.700 --> 36:46.700
+So once we've identified antibodies of interest, first via imaging and then by looking at their sequences,
+
+36:46.700 --> 36:50.700
+we express and characterize them using several different assays.
+
+36:50.700 --> 36:55.700
+The first thing we want to do is validate that the antibodies bind as we actually expect they would.
+
+36:55.700 --> 37:00.700
+And then we have many other assays to measure things like chemical properties, their stability, their affinity,
+
+37:00.700 --> 37:04.700
+and the way they bind to our particular antigen.
+
+37:04.700 --> 37:07.700
+All this characterization data feeds our machine learning algorithms
+
+37:07.700 --> 37:13.700
+and can inform both upstream antibody detection and selection and also downstream protein engineering.
+
+37:13.700 --> 37:18.700
+And we continually accumulate more and more of this data as we run these assays.
+
+37:18.700 --> 37:20.700
+So make sure you heard that, right?
+
+37:20.700 --> 37:23.700
+He just told you a very special thing there.
+
+37:23.700 --> 37:26.700
+It's very similar to what EpiVac said.
+
+37:26.700 --> 37:37.700
+Annie DeGroote said, excuse me, that they can find those immunogenic epitopes.
+
+37:37.700 --> 37:42.700
+But then more importantly, the obvious dual use of that is to insert them into proteins,
+
+37:42.700 --> 37:44.700
+to make proteins more immunogenic.
+
+37:44.700 --> 37:46.700
+And he basically just said the same thing.
+
+37:46.700 --> 37:48.700
+You can use that.
+
+37:48.700 --> 37:57.700
+This information of these epitopes and the way they're encoded in antibodies also in protein design.
+
+37:57.700 --> 38:05.700
+And so biologics, proteins, protein design, I can't think of very many other things that you would want to design
+
+38:05.700 --> 38:08.700
+from the perspective of a vaccine other than immunogenicity.
+
+38:08.700 --> 38:13.700
+So controlling where that immunogenicity is on the protein
+
+38:13.700 --> 38:18.700
+and where the immune system focuses would be a pretty spectacular art form.
+
+38:18.700 --> 38:24.700
+And I think it's very possible that that's the story that's being manipulated here,
+
+38:24.700 --> 38:30.700
+that what they did was they told us a story about a sequence they found embedded in that sequence
+
+38:30.700 --> 38:33.700
+was a pre-designed immunogen.
+
+38:33.700 --> 38:38.700
+Whether or not that immunogen ever went in circulation I think is beyond a doubt not likely.
+
+38:38.700 --> 38:45.700
+But whether that immunogen was released as a transfection, as an infectious clone,
+
+38:45.700 --> 38:52.700
+with limited spread or with a large quantity over some of these places, that's very possible.
+
+38:52.700 --> 38:58.700
+And if it had an immunogenic protein on it, of course that would have generated a lot of the disease states
+
+38:58.700 --> 39:02.700
+that were necessary in order to start that panic in those different geographic regions.
+
+39:03.700 --> 39:11.700
+This technology to me has so much dual use, and the way that they took us so long to find this,
+
+39:11.700 --> 39:17.700
+and once we've found all of this, the way that the work of Mark Gulak and others,
+
+39:17.700 --> 39:28.700
+but for me, mainly Mark, has tied in some of the key players of the dissidents into this story.
+
+39:28.700 --> 39:37.700
+And one of those important ones, of course, is Robert Malone.
+
+39:37.700 --> 39:42.700
+We're both upstream antibody detection and selection, and also downstream protein engineering.
+
+39:42.700 --> 39:47.700
+And we continually accumulate more and more of this data as we run these assays,
+
+39:47.700 --> 39:56.700
+which means we can feed it back into our ML models and create a virtuous cycle to keep improving them.
+
+39:57.700 --> 40:00.700
+So at this point, I've described how we accumulate sort of a mountain.
+
+40:00.700 --> 40:05.700
+One of the things that you can imagine, which I just,
+
+40:05.700 --> 40:12.700
+I get frustrated when I think this kind of thing because I'm hesitant to say it because of the no virus people.
+
+40:12.700 --> 40:20.700
+But if we were to entertain the possibility that coronaviruses are a real RNA shadow in nature,
+
+40:20.700 --> 40:23.700
+that occasionally makes people sick all around the world,
+
+40:24.700 --> 40:29.700
+and that there's some homology between the yearly waves of coronavirus
+
+40:29.700 --> 40:33.700
+because the homology is around the most conserved proteins,
+
+40:33.700 --> 40:36.700
+including the RNA-dependent RNA polymerase.
+
+40:36.700 --> 40:42.700
+But then they said that there was a novel one, again with this designer immunogen on it,
+
+40:42.700 --> 40:45.700
+so that when they transfected people with it,
+
+40:45.700 --> 40:51.700
+a naturally occurring pathogen would become dangerous.
+
+40:51.700 --> 40:56.700
+And if you wanted to get rid of a large portion of a useless population,
+
+40:56.700 --> 41:02.700
+you might say everybody that takes this shot will just be more vulnerable to the immune interaction
+
+41:02.700 --> 41:07.700
+with these previously harmless coronaviruses,
+
+41:07.700 --> 41:11.700
+which again, according to their mythology, have so much overlap in their proteins
+
+41:11.700 --> 41:15.700
+that according to anti-dechrot, or dechrot,
+
+41:15.700 --> 41:20.700
+the protein would actually be tolerogenic.
+
+41:20.700 --> 41:27.700
+And so that's no good if all of the coronavirus proteins are mimicking human epitopes
+
+41:27.700 --> 41:31.700
+so that they generate tolerance,
+
+41:31.700 --> 41:35.700
+then you have a real issue because then how do you make a vaccine to that?
+
+41:35.700 --> 41:36.700
+You don't.
+
+41:36.700 --> 41:39.700
+But you could make a vaccine to it if you designed the spike protein
+
+41:39.700 --> 41:42.700
+that you intended to use as a vaccine to be immunogenic
+
+41:42.700 --> 41:47.700
+and then lied about it being present in a novel lab league.
+
+41:47.700 --> 41:50.700
+And I know I'm going out here on a limb here, but what?
+
+41:50.700 --> 41:54.700
+I mean, otherwise I'm repeating myself over and over again.
+
+41:54.700 --> 42:00.700
+I think this is the sort of intellectual space you have to explore at this stage,
+
+42:00.700 --> 42:08.700
+because if this is the front-facing, public, non-confidential presentation that this guy gives,
+
+42:08.700 --> 42:16.700
+then I can anticipate what the behind-the-scenes DARPA DOD presentation is.
+
+42:16.700 --> 42:18.700
+That's for sure.
+
+42:18.700 --> 42:21.700
+And I can certainly imagine what Dr. Giordano would take with this
+
+42:21.700 --> 42:25.700
+and say, well, what we can do with this is a lot.
+
+42:25.700 --> 42:30.700
+So to me, that's pretty easy to see.
+
+42:30.700 --> 42:33.700
+Anyway, I'm going to let this go for a little while longer,
+
+42:33.700 --> 42:36.700
+because Mark might not be ready till 8.30,
+
+42:36.700 --> 42:38.700
+so I'm going to go a little while longer.
+
+42:38.700 --> 42:42.700
+If he doesn't ping me back, I'll just end in a few minutes anyway.
+
+42:42.700 --> 42:45.700
+Data, characterizing the antibodies we find.
+
+42:45.700 --> 42:49.700
+But it's likely that there's still too many antibodies to bring to a clinical trial.
+
+42:49.700 --> 42:52.700
+So we have to further refine the list.
+
+42:52.700 --> 42:55.700
+So we've developed this internal tool, we call it Celium,
+
+42:55.700 --> 42:59.700
+to help our scientists make sense of this very high-dimensional data set.
+
+42:59.700 --> 43:01.700
+And so that's really the trick, right?
+
+43:01.700 --> 43:03.700
+That's what they're selling.
+
+43:03.700 --> 43:08.700
+They're doing some pretty basic microfluidic sorting of B cells.
+
+43:08.700 --> 43:12.700
+And the actual selling thing, I think, honestly,
+
+43:12.700 --> 43:16.700
+after they have all this high-throughput screening of B cells done.
+
+43:16.700 --> 43:18.700
+And the main thing that they're selling,
+
+43:18.700 --> 43:22.700
+the main thing that they're going to leverage are AI, machine learning,
+
+43:22.700 --> 43:26.700
+software stacks that contain patented code,
+
+43:26.700 --> 43:30.700
+or patented subroutines, or patented search parameters, yada, yada,
+
+43:30.700 --> 43:34.700
+yada, whatever it is, trademark names.
+
+43:34.700 --> 43:39.700
+And that's how they layer on the value that they provide to their clients.
+
+43:39.700 --> 43:43.700
+That's how they layer on the value that they draw for the royalties
+
+43:43.700 --> 43:46.700
+that they're going to charge when they return the data back to those people,
+
+43:46.700 --> 43:49.700
+and then they use it to make products and they owe them royalties.
+
+43:49.700 --> 43:52.700
+That's the whole model.
+
+43:52.700 --> 43:57.700
+And so companies that bring their old monoclonals to them
+
+43:57.700 --> 44:02.700
+can launder them through here and generate new monoclonals
+
+44:02.700 --> 44:06.700
+to the same target that might be better and then have launder them through
+
+44:06.700 --> 44:09.700
+or produce them with this software.
+
+44:09.700 --> 44:17.700
+So it's a patentable process that enables the finding of monoclonal antibodies.
+
+44:17.700 --> 44:22.700
+And so you just bypassed the antibody patent paradox completely,
+
+44:22.700 --> 44:25.700
+and then you did it in Canada, no matter, even better.
+
+44:25.700 --> 44:29.700
+See, I think it's a really interesting story that more people,
+
+44:29.700 --> 44:34.700
+with more knowledge than I, need to latch onto it,
+
+44:34.700 --> 44:37.700
+start to investigate how plausible this is.
+
+44:37.700 --> 44:40.700
+And meanwhile, they have Dr. Giordano running around and telling everybody
+
+44:40.700 --> 44:45.700
+about all this other stuff that's actually still 50 years on the horizon
+
+44:45.700 --> 44:48.700
+if that, where all of this stuff is real and right now
+
+44:48.700 --> 44:52.700
+and totally relevant for the pandemic narrative.
+
+44:52.700 --> 44:54.700
+So I don't know what to say.
+
+44:55.700 --> 44:58.700
+It overlays information derived from the protein sequences,
+
+44:58.700 --> 45:01.700
+alongside measurements collected at the wet bench.
+
+45:01.700 --> 45:05.700
+So it gives scientists a way to tease apart and understand these relationships.
+
+45:05.700 --> 45:09.700
+And we're constantly integrating more powerful ML-backed analysis tools
+
+45:09.700 --> 45:13.700
+into Selium to help our scientists understand the antibody landscape
+
+45:13.700 --> 45:15.700
+and make better decisions.
+
+45:19.700 --> 45:23.700
+So up to now, I've told you about our single cell screening platform
+
+45:23.700 --> 45:27.700
+and sort of to recap that, it all starts with that immune response.
+
+45:27.700 --> 45:30.700
+And from that immune sample, we screen single B cells in isolation.
+
+45:30.700 --> 45:33.700
+We're looking for interesting binding signatures.
+
+45:33.700 --> 45:37.700
+And then we recover those B cells and analyze their amino acid sequence.
+
+45:37.700 --> 45:40.700
+And finally, we express the best candidates, characterize their properties,
+
+45:40.700 --> 45:42.700
+and validate their binding profile.
+
+45:42.700 --> 45:46.700
+But because the immune system can produce such a vast diversity of antibodies,
+
+45:46.700 --> 45:52.700
+screening even 500,000 cells isn't enough for a complete picture of the immune response.
+
+45:54.700 --> 45:57.700
+So in parallel with this single cell screening process,
+
+45:57.700 --> 46:01.700
+we can also sequence an even larger sample of the immune cells using a process
+
+46:01.700 --> 46:03.700
+called repertoire sequencing.
+
+46:03.700 --> 46:08.700
+And this gives us even more sequence data about what the immune system is doing
+
+46:08.700 --> 46:10.700
+and the sequences that are present in the sample.
+
+46:10.700 --> 46:12.700
+But it comes at a cost.
+
+46:12.700 --> 46:15.700
+We get much less information about each individual antibody.
+
+46:15.700 --> 46:21.700
+So the single cell process that's depicted in the top row and that I described in detail
+
+46:21.700 --> 46:25.700
+tells us exactly which heavy and light chains were paired together
+
+46:25.700 --> 46:27.700
+to form a particular antibody.
+
+46:27.700 --> 46:31.700
+But the repertoire sequencing process mixes all the heavy and light chains together
+
+46:31.700 --> 46:34.700
+so the sequences come to us unpaired.
+
+46:34.700 --> 46:39.700
+And it's also harder to look for a very specific binding profile using this technology.
+
+46:41.700 --> 46:45.700
+To deal with this, we use bioinformatics and machine learning techniques
+
+46:45.700 --> 46:49.700
+inspired by natural language processing to learn features from our single cell antibodies
+
+46:49.700 --> 46:52.700
+and find related sequences from the repertoire data.
+
+46:52.700 --> 46:58.700
+So here on the left, you can see an inferred lineage relationship between a single cell lead.
+
+46:58.700 --> 47:00.700
+This is our antibody of interest.
+
+47:00.700 --> 47:01.700
+It's highlighted in green.
+
+47:01.700 --> 47:03.700
+And then it's germline parent, which is above it.
+
+47:03.700 --> 47:08.700
+And that's a putative ancestor of this cell.
+
+47:08.700 --> 47:13.700
+And then some of its single cell descendants that also showed up in the assay,
+
+47:13.700 --> 47:16.700
+the single cell screening assay.
+
+47:17.700 --> 47:20.700
+But now on the right, what you see is a much deeper lineage tree,
+
+47:20.700 --> 47:24.700
+and it includes heavy chains obtained from repertoire sequencing.
+
+47:24.700 --> 47:28.700
+This same single cell heavy chain is still shown in green on the right-hand tree,
+
+47:28.700 --> 47:33.700
+but now it fits into a much richer set of the heavy chains obtained from the repertoire sequencing.
+
+47:33.700 --> 47:36.700
+And this helps us understand how the single cell hits we've isolated
+
+47:36.700 --> 47:39.700
+are fitting into the overall immune response,
+
+47:39.700 --> 47:44.700
+and to potentially identify even better candidate sequences.
+
+47:45.700 --> 47:47.700
+I can freely admit I'm not really following.
+
+47:47.700 --> 47:49.700
+So stepping back to the bigger picture of how ML fits into eCelera,
+
+47:49.700 --> 47:53.700
+I see it as much less of an end product than as a research and problem-solving tool.
+
+47:53.700 --> 47:57.700
+So here machine learning exists to support a never-ending stream
+
+47:57.700 --> 48:02.700
+of partner discovery projects and campaigns across the entire scientific pipeline.
+
+48:02.700 --> 48:08.700
+We're driving scientific research, so there's often a new twist on every project.
+
+48:08.700 --> 48:12.700
+One problem we definitely don't have is running out of our validation and test data.
+
+48:12.700 --> 48:17.700
+But what we do constantly worry about is whether our models will generalize into their next deployment.
+
+48:17.700 --> 48:22.700
+So we have to make fluid transitions between exploratory data analysis and machine learning
+
+48:22.700 --> 48:25.700
+to understand where we are and how we're doing.
+
+48:25.700 --> 48:29.700
+Our goal isn't just to automate specific processes or fine-tune models
+
+48:29.700 --> 48:32.700
+to improve metrics on canned pre-existing datasets.
+
+48:32.700 --> 48:35.700
+eCelera controls the entire discovery pipeline from immunization strategies,
+
+48:35.700 --> 48:38.700
+cell screening protocols, imaging equipment, mechatronics,
+
+48:38.700 --> 48:41.700
+protein expression, assay development, all of this.
+
+48:41.700 --> 48:44.700
+So we have a say in how the datasets are generated, what gets measured,
+
+48:44.700 --> 48:47.700
+and which processes can be improved.
+
+48:47.700 --> 48:52.700
+Something else about our team that's somewhat unique is that we operate across many different data scales.
+
+48:52.700 --> 48:56.700
+Some parts of our pipeline generate terabytes of data relatively cheaply,
+
+48:56.700 --> 49:01.700
+whereas other assays are so costly or slow that we only get a handful of data points to work with.
+
+49:01.700 --> 49:08.700
+So we have to be creative and make sure we can gracefully jump to the right scale.
+
+49:08.700 --> 49:13.700
+I want to spend just a minute recounting a story that everyone at eCelera is very proud to be part of.
+
+49:13.700 --> 49:18.700
+So in early 2020, as you all know, the COVID pandemic was starting to spread throughout the world,
+
+49:18.700 --> 49:21.700
+and this put our technology through a trial by fire.
+
+49:21.700 --> 49:28.700
+Within three days of receiving a sample from one of the first US patrons who had recovered from COVID-19,
+
+49:28.700 --> 49:31.700
+we had screened 5.8 million cells.
+
+49:31.700 --> 49:36.700
+And 23 days later, we had selected just 24 leads from those 5.8 million.
+
+49:36.700 --> 49:43.700
+And within 90 days, through a partnership with Eli Lilly, one of those antibodies was already in human clinical trials.
+
+49:43.700 --> 49:49.700
+Bam Lanovab has gone on to become the first potential treatment developed specifically for COVID-19,
+
+49:49.700 --> 49:55.700
+and it's approved in more than 10 countries and approximately 400,000 patients have been treated.
+
+49:55.700 --> 49:59.700
+It was a lot of work, and we're very proud of this accomplishment.
+
+50:00.700 --> 50:09.700
+I'm wondering if you were using just ML based models, or do you use a mixture of mechanistic or biochemical models?
+
+50:09.700 --> 50:14.700
+We have a huge range of models, and this is exactly the kind of question that we're exploring at eCelera.
+
+50:14.700 --> 50:20.700
+I can't talk about all the different kinds of models we're using, but we are trying to find what,
+
+50:20.700 --> 50:25.700
+and that is what our daily life at eCelera is like, is solving these kinds of research problems.
+
+50:26.700 --> 50:33.700
+So that's pretty extraordinary, because that's really the kind of bamboozlement that leads to a pandemic.
+
+50:33.700 --> 50:35.700
+It's really how they did it.
+
+50:35.700 --> 50:42.700
+It's how they sell stock, it's how they sell these bad ideas on the road.
+
+50:42.700 --> 50:49.700
+It's making promises that they can't keep, and as they said, forward-looking statements may not be accurate.
+
+50:50.700 --> 50:56.700
+And starting to talk with that, and then talking about this biology as if it's all but done,
+
+50:56.700 --> 51:00.700
+I have no doubt that there are uses for monoclonal antibodies.
+
+51:00.700 --> 51:09.700
+I have no doubt that there are ways that the immune system can be used in this way to produce therapies for things like cancer and other conditions,
+
+51:09.700 --> 51:16.700
+but I do not think we are anywhere near the stage where we can usefully augment the memory of the immune system.
+
+51:17.700 --> 51:24.700
+And this talk of doing that was, he started it in the beginning, but he didn't say a word about it afterward.
+
+51:24.700 --> 51:38.700
+And so I hope what you can see here really plain as day is that this is just a very multifaceted way of doing an end-around on the antibody-patent paradox,
+
+51:39.700 --> 51:50.700
+and the idea that antibodies, monoclonal antibodies in particular, have been patented in a way in the past that they can no longer be patented.
+
+51:50.700 --> 52:00.700
+And the entire sort of intellectual property space that is monoclonal antibodies has changed drastically in the past few years because of a recent Supreme Court ruling.
+
+52:01.700 --> 52:14.700
+And it's possible that that sort of momentum was known for a while because of previous rulings, including the one that Brett Weinstein's father set in on,
+
+52:14.700 --> 52:18.700
+that Mark has reported a number of times, Santa Corps versus somebody else.
+
+52:18.700 --> 52:30.700
+And so that's really a point where we are, where we can see a play, a play for one of the only things that does work for certain things.
+
+52:30.700 --> 52:45.700
+I'm still curious as to whether monoclonal antibodies really made any difference for people with COVID or whether the antibodies themselves can just ramp up an immune response in a way that is effectively useful for anybody that gets monoclonal antibodies.
+
+52:45.700 --> 52:52.700
+Because if there's no meaningful amount of virus in your blood, then monoclonal antibodies shouldn't in theory do anything.
+
+52:52.700 --> 52:57.700
+And so I'm still trying to figure out what's going on here too.
+
+52:57.700 --> 53:04.700
+I don't have all of the things working in my head, but I know for sure I heard Tad Hughes say that they have so many models and we can't talk about them.
+
+53:04.700 --> 53:13.700
+And the whole point of having models that aren't validated or having ideas that are patented first and validated later, this is all business.
+
+53:13.700 --> 53:15.700
+It's very different than biology.
+
+53:15.700 --> 53:30.700
+And a lot of the pandemic biology is based on business biology, like this talk, and not about real proven understood, you know, grassroots, not grassroots, but foundational immunology.
+
+53:31.700 --> 53:36.700
+So I think that's what we're really trying to work on here now.
+
+53:36.700 --> 53:53.700
+And I'm trying to build a new slide set that will more adequately describe the absolute state of where we are with understanding this and the kind of possibilities that are there from the worst case scenarios to the most ridiculous ones.
+
+53:54.700 --> 54:02.700
+But I think in general, it's a very good place to start for everybody from the perspective of if you've never heard this before.
+
+54:02.700 --> 54:22.700
+Or if you're trying to tell somebody something that they didn't expect to hear, you should start with the idea that algorithms and the NIH and the NIAID and DOD and everybody involved in the world public health space has had an impetus
+
+54:22.700 --> 54:33.700
+and a notion in their head that pandemics have potential and that potential can be found in mother nature.
+
+54:33.700 --> 54:38.700
+If you go looking for it, it can be extracted from mother nature using cell culture.
+
+54:38.700 --> 54:50.700
+It can be extracted from mother nature using animal passage and it can even be kind of woven together using genetic techniques to make viruses that maybe mother nature herself never would have come up with.
+
+54:50.700 --> 55:10.700
+And this combination of mythologies is being used to convince everybody that there's so much danger from a pandemic and that digital IDs make sense that mandatory vaccinations make sense and that health freedom is really a thing of the past.
+
+55:11.700 --> 55:18.700
+And they most importantly want our children to believe that. So that's why we really need to be outspoken and we need to act.
+
+55:18.700 --> 55:27.700
+We can't just wait for everybody else to fix. We can't wait for people to wake up. Everyone needs to wake up and you need to demonstrate that you're awake.
+
+55:27.700 --> 55:36.700
+And so you need to see this picture for what it is. The all-cause mortality is in light blue and that is the graph that they very rarely showed us.
+
+55:36.700 --> 55:47.700
+You can see this graph sometimes in the UK but in America they never showed it to us and more importantly they never showed us the change in the deaths due to pneumonia.
+
+55:48.700 --> 55:57.700
+And if you just look at this graph and see the middle color blue here on here on here on here the same number of people are dying of pneumonia.
+
+55:57.700 --> 56:08.700
+That's this line right here. And that same number of people dying of pneumonia also represents a huge number of people that are having pneumonia even going to the hospital with it and not dying.
+
+56:09.700 --> 56:22.700
+And so there is a huge potential for an increase in all-cause mortality due to pneumonia alone if you just change the way it's treated or prevent its treatment.
+
+56:22.700 --> 56:32.700
+And for quite some time now I have been arguing that that is one of the primary sources of this limited excess deaths.
+
+56:32.700 --> 56:45.700
+That signal was confirmed by Denny Rancor last year and the year before and shown that the all-cause mortality is not correlated with a spreading pathogen.
+
+56:45.700 --> 56:51.700
+It stops at borders and more importantly it's correlated with the income of the location.
+
+56:51.700 --> 56:58.700
+It can be also correlated with a geographic location. It doesn't cross state borders.
+
+56:58.700 --> 57:02.700
+It doesn't cross country borders. It's pathetic. It's the protocols.
+
+57:02.700 --> 57:15.700
+And the way that they did it was they changed those protocols with respect to pneumonia by using the implication of a novel virus and the idea that you could test for it if you had a test.
+
+57:15.700 --> 57:22.700
+And if you remember in 2020 we didn't have a test in America until March or April, maybe even April or May.
+
+57:22.700 --> 57:29.700
+And so a lot of the COVID that was actually in New York City was presumed COVID. Not tested COVID but presumed COVID.
+
+57:29.700 --> 57:35.700
+And so that's also a big problem ladies and gentlemen. A huge problem.
+
+57:35.700 --> 57:50.700
+And I think that the biology of RNA and the biology of RNA replication as it is drawn best by them means that a natural coronavirus swarm can sustain a pandemic and that's why we have never had one.
+
+57:50.700 --> 58:00.700
+That's why SARS burnt out. That's why mayors burnt out even when you make a clone and you release it in China even when you make a clone and you release it in the Middle East.
+
+58:00.700 --> 58:05.700
+It's not going to go anywhere. And the clone is a best case scenario.
+
+58:05.700 --> 58:19.700
+And that's something that I haven't really made very clear but a clone is the best case scenario for transmission because a clone is millions of copies of the RNA in complete form.
+
+58:20.700 --> 58:31.700
+Whereas any other form of the natural virus is a swarm, mostly in competent particles, hundreds of thousands of times more subgenomic RNAs than full genomes.
+
+58:31.700 --> 58:37.700
+And so if you don't have very full genomes and all of them are different and many of them are replication and competent.
+
+58:37.700 --> 58:48.700
+And then it's obvious that a natural swarm can't sustain a pandemic but if you released a clone in several places it would appear as though a pandemic was underway.
+
+58:48.700 --> 59:00.700
+And that high homology between all of those sequences would be your excuse and also would be the magic that would fool all of those molecular biologists around the world to believe there really was an ongoing pandemic.
+
+59:00.700 --> 59:13.700
+Because heretofore the identical RNA sequence of a virus has never been found simultaneously in multiple places in the world at the same time. Never.
+
+59:14.700 --> 59:27.700
+And so they're using this mythology to invert the rights and individual sovereignty of your children into basic granted permissions.
+
+59:27.700 --> 59:31.700
+They want you to carry an ID and ask for permission to go everywhere.
+
+59:31.700 --> 59:39.700
+And unfortunately we have been slow rolled into this narrative when a lot of these people could have woken up in 2020.
+
+59:39.700 --> 59:43.700
+Mostly didn't. Here at Fund in Bosch was nowhere to be found.
+
+59:43.700 --> 59:45.700
+Robert Malone was nowhere to be found.
+
+59:45.700 --> 59:52.700
+Brett Weinstein was wearing a bandana and isolating all through 2020.
+
+59:52.700 --> 59:59.700
+And pushing a drastic lab leak scenario very early on.
+
+59:59.700 --> 01:00:08.700
+So all of these individuals that we've been trying to investigate are responsible for this illusion of consensus that we have to find out where this virus came from.
+
+01:00:09.700 --> 01:00:14.700
+And that the virus did most of it is one of the things that people are still insistent of.
+
+01:00:14.700 --> 01:00:20.700
+And that's where you can just see the liars right away when they emphasize the virus still in 2023.
+
+01:00:20.700 --> 01:00:23.700
+I mean, give it a rest already.
+
+01:00:23.700 --> 01:00:31.700
+Whatever bio weapon was released in 2020 is not represented here now in 2023. That's just absurd.
+
+01:00:32.700 --> 01:00:40.700
+And the idea that they're still making that argument in light of all of the biology that we brought out on Giggle Home. It's just sad, really.
+
+01:00:40.700 --> 01:00:48.700
+If there's anything going on in the brain, if there's anything going on with amyloidosis or anything like that, it's going to be from transfection.
+
+01:00:48.700 --> 01:01:01.700
+Because transfection is the use of synthetic modified RNA to express foreign proteins in your body, and they can't control where it goes, as Peter Cullis told us the other night.
+
+01:01:01.700 --> 01:01:13.700
+And so that is a much better, much finer recipe for all of these protein misregulations than a released coronavirus circulating the world is.
+
+01:01:14.700 --> 01:01:26.700
+And least of all, because the released coronavirus could never have the fidelity to sustain and keep a hold of all these magic epitopes that supposedly are going around the world. It's just not possible.
+
+01:01:26.700 --> 01:01:32.700
+And all these people who say that it is can't produce any papers that show that it is.
+
+01:01:32.700 --> 01:01:39.700
+The only papers that are available are papers that make the exact argument that I'm making, which is incompetent fractions.
+
+01:01:39.700 --> 01:01:50.700
+It is a genetic swarm, and these two things result in a biology that is different than what they have portrayed on television over the last three years.
+
+01:01:50.700 --> 01:01:56.700
+But in order for them to get away with this, they needed to change the way we thought about all of this stuff.
+
+01:01:56.700 --> 01:02:00.700
+And they needed to change the way we think about the cause of respiratory disease.
+
+01:02:00.700 --> 01:02:06.700
+And they needed to completely bamboozle with us about all cause mortality in America. They never said once.
+
+01:02:06.700 --> 01:02:13.700
+That between 55 and 65,000 Americans are expected to die every week.
+
+01:02:13.700 --> 01:02:21.700
+They never made any reference to all cause mortality of being close to 3 million per year.
+
+01:02:21.700 --> 01:02:29.700
+And so even as they were inverting and substituting and driving up opioid deaths and blaming it all on COVID,
+
+01:02:29.700 --> 01:02:39.700
+they never took the time to frame these numbers in the context of all cause mortality because their intention was to make it seem like there was a novel cause of death.
+
+01:02:39.700 --> 01:02:42.700
+Something went from zero to a hundred.
+
+01:02:42.700 --> 01:02:58.700
+When in reality they were just swapping things around and there wasn't any change except for in the places where they were managing to convince hospitals to change their protocols and doctors to change their protocols.
+
+01:02:58.700 --> 01:03:05.700
+And so they ventilated people to prevent spread and killed many. They used remdesivir, medazolam, and they didn't treat pneumonia.
+
+01:03:05.700 --> 01:03:15.700
+It's very simple. Three pills were removed from the drawer and everything else was an illusion of consensus.
+
+01:03:15.700 --> 01:03:19.700
+All these people agreeing can fool you just like an ash conformity experiment.
+
+01:03:19.700 --> 01:03:25.700
+They have fooled us into trying to figure out whether it was a laboratory or a bad cave virus zoonosis.
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+In these scenarios, lockdowns and emergency use authorizations caused some excess deaths, but the millions were killed by a novel virus.
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+In these scenarios we've defeated epidemics in the past with vaccination.
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+In this scenario, novel coronaviruses can jump species in pandemic.
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+In this scenario, PCR false positives are very rare.
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+Asymptomatic spread is real.
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+And we spend money studying viruses, including gain of function experiments that can generate pandemic potential.
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+This is the TV scenario one through three.
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+The real scenario I believe is that there was a conflated background signal and what that conflated background signal was is not necessarily my job to find out,
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+but it could have been the background signal of coronaviruses or whatever they are in reality if their exosomes or whatever.
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+And so they could be human sequences, bacterial sequences, fungal sequences, whatever.
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+And as long as there's sufficient overlap with the sequence that they're looking for, with their primers, the N protein or the RNA,
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+dependent RNA polymerase or whatever they say they're using for their, it's ultimately down to the primers.
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+It's not about what it's aimed at.
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+If they choose primers which are not exquisitely specific for the target gene and overlap with many of the other background,
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+RNA and DNA that's known to be present in your nose or in your saliva, then a false positive is not a false positive.
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+You're getting a positive and an amplicon is being amplified, but it's just not the target amplicon that they said it was.
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+And so now very quickly you roll out a bunch of these things like we did in America.
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+There were 250 different products called PCR tests, 250 products.
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+I mean, think about that.
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+And so it doesn't really matter.
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+And I've said this a long time.
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+It doesn't really matter whether it was a leak, a lease, a release.
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+It's all lies.
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+They've been lying about it.
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+And once you realize that they're lying about it and you realize that the protocols were murder and transfection is in medicine,
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+then how you divvy up this, the cause and effect here doesn't really matter if you know the protocols were murder.
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+There's hardly anything left for a particular ravenous virus to do anything with.
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+There's no reason to even have it in the story, quite honestly, because there was so much terrible things,
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+And so infectious clones released in Iran and Wuhan, sure, why not?
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+A transfection agent released somewhere in Iran and Wuhan, sure, why not?
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+Whatever you want to call it.
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+But this isn't the right answer.
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+And this probably is.
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+That's really, I really think that's where we are.
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+And again, I will keep saying this over and over again.
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+Let's pay attention to what people talk about.
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+If they're not all going back to the beginning and pointing out the depth and the breadth of the fraud that took place in
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+2020 and early 2021 to assure that warp speed would result in lots of people being vaccinated right after
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+Joe Biden was elected, then these people aren't being honest with you.
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+If they're not looking into Jessica Hockett's data, they're not being honest with you.
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+If they're not looking into Denny Rancour's data, they're not being honest with you.
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+If they're not aware of the fact that the same thing that Jessica Hockett found in New York was also found in Italy,
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+they're not being honest with you.
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+If you haven't seen that what Jessica Hockett found in New York is almost so basically found in Chicago,
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+then people aren't honest with you.
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+If people aren't sharing the fact that the antibody patent paradox case actually occurred during the pandemic
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+and that all of these companies that seem to be bypassing or are doing an end-around on the antibody patent paradox
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+01:07:43.700 --> 01:07:49.700
+and that intellectual property space all have a really weird red thread of Robert Malone,
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+including a lot of the Canadian companies, including the technology and interacting with some of these companies
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+01:07:56.700 --> 01:08:00.700
+for many, many years, people aren't being honest with you.
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+01:08:00.700 --> 01:08:07.700
+They're talking about something else, talking about something else and asking the wrong questions,
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+01:08:07.700 --> 01:08:12.700
+tricking you into asking the wrong questions, and there aren't too many more questions to ask really.
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+01:08:13.700 --> 01:08:15.700
+Except why haven't we stopped this train?
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+01:08:18.700 --> 01:08:24.700
+And the reason why is because they want our data, yes they do, they would like us to put sensors in our skin
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+and all this other stuff, and more importantly they want our kids to do it.
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+01:08:27.700 --> 01:08:31.700
+Remember, I think this is a long game, it's for all the marbles and I don't think they need us to do it.
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+I don't even know if they need us to be around before they do it.
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+It could be that they're really aiming at my son's kids, your kids, kids.
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+And it's that long of a plan, like a 50-year plan, it's not a 10-year plan or a 20-year plan.
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+Oh, it's 8.30, I got to get out of here.
+
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+Ladies and gentlemen, intramuscular injection of any combination of substances
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+with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
+
+01:08:55.700 --> 01:08:57.700
+Transfection is not immunization.
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+01:08:57.700 --> 01:09:00.700
+Please stop all transfections in humans.
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+01:09:00.700 --> 01:09:06.700
+And I apologize for kind of an impromptu improvised stream here.
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+I know I'm usually a little more organized, but I wanted to do something short,
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+and then Mark gave me an extra half an hour, so I went a little longer than I should have.
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+Make sure you follow Mark, make sure you go find him.
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+He's on YouTube right now, I believe, so I might go look for that.
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+I might go look for that link and drop it in right here.
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+See how I can find it.
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+There we go.
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+There it is.
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+I'll be over here in a little while.
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+Thanks, guys, for joining me.
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+Yep, thanks very much for joining me, everybody, and I will see you again tomorrow for another show.
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+Hopefully my voice will still sound okay.
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+What was that?
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+Oh, that's him, he's starting.
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+Oh, see you guys.
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+Take care.
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+Make sure you go over to Mark.
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+Go over to Mark's show, say hi to him for me.
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+Let's see if we can get his viewers up to 100 before he goes to sleep.
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+Thanks for joining me, guys, I'll see you tomorrow.
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+Thanks for joining me, guys.
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+Thanks for joining me, guys.
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+Thanks for joining me, guys.
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+Thanks for joining me, guys.
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+And what that basically does is that it londers the
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+transfection as an idea and as a methodology
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+through this false pandemic and comes out on the other end
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+as a rushed but perfect outcome.
+
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+And it is frustrating to me now in some ways
+
+00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.240
+how many people are picking up on this idea so late.
+
+00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.160
+When I think the first time that I presented the idea
+
+00:09:33.160 --> 00:09:34.880
+that they were gonna do a bait and switch
+
+00:09:34.880 --> 00:09:37.560
+with the spike protein or the LNP
+
+00:09:37.560 --> 00:09:42.560
+or the RNA being impure already in the beginning of 2021
+
+00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:46.440
+when these ideas were first presented as problems
+
+00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:49.360
+especially the toxicity of the spike.
+
+00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:53.360
+It hit me almost immediately that there were too many people
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+00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:57.800
+in this consensus that we're sure that the spike protein
+
+00:09:57.800 --> 00:09:59.960
+of the virus was dangerous.
+
+00:09:59.960 --> 00:10:02.880
+The spike protein of the virus was manipulated.
+
+00:10:03.880 --> 00:10:06.280
+But then when they used the spike protein in the shot
+
+00:10:06.280 --> 00:10:08.920
+most of these people didn't have the immediate
+
+00:10:08.920 --> 00:10:11.520
+well what the hell are they doing that for.
+
+00:10:11.520 --> 00:10:15.280
+And in fact for a very long time many of these people
+
+00:10:15.280 --> 00:10:19.000
+continue to focus on the spike of the virus
+
+00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:21.080
+rather than the spike of the transfections
+
+00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:23.960
+and you can look back and you can see them all do it.
+
+00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:26.360
+So they can go on their streams
+
+00:10:26.360 --> 00:10:27.960
+and they can go on their podcasts now
+
+00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:29.360
+and say that that's not what happened
+
+00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:31.760
+but the problem is is that there's a whole internet
+
+00:10:31.760 --> 00:10:33.920
+full of videos of these morons
+
+00:10:33.920 --> 00:10:36.020
+and the exact things that they said.
+
+00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:40.760
+And that's the part that's kind of getting me angry
+
+00:10:40.760 --> 00:10:43.160
+and why those words sometimes come out.
+
+00:10:43.160 --> 00:10:46.640
+I have to really center myself to think about
+
+00:10:46.640 --> 00:10:48.720
+how despicable it is that these people
+
+00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:52.400
+have absolutely spectacularly committed
+
+00:10:52.400 --> 00:10:56.000
+to keeping some of these lies intact.
+
+00:10:56.000 --> 00:11:01.000
+For their comfort, for their fame, for fortune, it's awful.
+
+00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:04.680
+But there is no question that that's what's going on right now.
+
+00:11:04.680 --> 00:11:08.040
+The novel virus narrative is under preservation
+
+00:11:08.040 --> 00:11:12.960
+by these people and a virus narrative
+
+00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:14.760
+about a bio-weapon being released
+
+00:11:14.760 --> 00:11:16.200
+is preserving the narrative.
+
+00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:20.160
+A discussion of gain of function is preserving the narrative.
+
+00:11:21.280 --> 00:11:23.960
+And a complete absence of the discussion
+
+00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:27.920
+of where the excess deaths actually came from
+
+00:11:27.920 --> 00:11:31.640
+is a complete preservation of the narrative.
+
+00:11:31.640 --> 00:11:34.400
+And almost every one of these people is guilty of that.
+
+00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:38.680
+And that's what I'm trying to sort out with this map.
+
+00:11:38.680 --> 00:11:39.960
+I've got a lot of people on here,
+
+00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:42.200
+I don't even clue down here, like John Cullen
+
+00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:45.640
+and people that we just can on the outset discard.
+
+00:11:46.760 --> 00:11:49.120
+You know, I'm not gonna put Adam Gardner on here
+
+00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:49.960
+or something like that.
+
+00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:54.320
+These people that were posers already in 2020,
+
+00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:58.200
+obviously like the Berenson guy.
+
+00:11:58.200 --> 00:11:59.960
+Why would I even put him on this map?
+
+00:12:00.040 --> 00:12:05.040
+He revealed himself has extremely manufactured construct already.
+
+00:12:05.040 --> 00:12:08.360
+They revealed him as that in the beginning of the pandemic
+
+00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:10.400
+by censoring him off Twitter
+
+00:12:10.400 --> 00:12:11.960
+and then letting him sue Twitter.
+
+00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:14.520
+I mean, this was all as much publicity
+
+00:12:14.520 --> 00:12:16.040
+as anyone could hope to have.
+
+00:12:17.760 --> 00:12:19.840
+Every one of these examples of censorship
+
+00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:22.920
+that anybody ever heard of,
+
+00:12:22.920 --> 00:12:25.680
+like Robert Malone's censorship ended up in what?
+
+00:12:25.680 --> 00:12:29.520
+Two more apps being populated,
+
+00:12:29.520 --> 00:12:31.040
+telegram and GAB
+
+00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:33.080
+and a whole bunch of people,
+
+00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:38.080
+including Brett Weinstein going over to those platforms
+
+00:12:38.160 --> 00:12:40.240
+at the same time that Robert Malone did
+
+00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:42.720
+under the pretense that censorship isn't cool.
+
+00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:48.880
+This was all behavior designed to drive the crowds around,
+
+00:12:50.040 --> 00:12:53.120
+to move the sheep into different paddocks
+
+00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:55.080
+and to see who would follow who were.
+
+00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.080
+And this game has been going on
+
+00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:00.080
+from the very, very beginning on social media
+
+00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:02.080
+to try and sort out who we were
+
+00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:04.080
+and who the problems were.
+
+00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:06.080
+And that's how they found me so early.
+
+00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:10.080
+That's why so many people have shown up wherever I am
+
+00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:12.080
+or go in places.
+
+00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:15.080
+Serendipitously, everybody wanted to go
+
+00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:17.080
+to the CHD conference all of a sudden
+
+00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:19.080
+once they found out Jay was going.
+
+00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:21.080
+So many people didn't even register for the conference,
+
+00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:23.080
+but suddenly when they found out Jay was going,
+
+00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:25.080
+they had to be there.
+
+00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:27.080
+It was kind of pathetic, actually.
+
+00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:31.080
+In retrospect, I should have seen it very clearly.
+
+00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:35.080
+So I'm still fighting that, but, you know, whatever.
+
+00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:38.080
+We're going to work on that a little less often now
+
+00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:40.080
+and adding people to that regularly is still,
+
+00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:42.080
+I think, really important.
+
+00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:43.080
+But remember, the idea is,
+
+00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:46.080
+is they're trying to make you feel like you're processing,
+
+00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:47.080
+you're experiencing this,
+
+00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:49.080
+and it's going by so fast
+
+00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:51.080
+and there are so many smart people involved
+
+00:13:51.080 --> 00:13:53.080
+that you don't need to concern yourself with it.
+
+00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:55.080
+I mean, why would you get all up in arms
+
+00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:57.080
+if Steve Kirsch and Robert Malone
+
+00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.080
+are working on your behalf, right?
+
+00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.080
+So the last couple of days we've been focused
+
+00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:08.080
+on these two companies, Epivax and Absolera,
+
+00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:12.080
+and we got there because of Peter Collis
+
+00:14:12.080 --> 00:14:15.080
+and a recommendation by no one other than Robert Malone.
+
+00:14:15.080 --> 00:14:17.080
+Robert Malone has been associated directly
+
+00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:19.080
+and indirectly with many of these companies
+
+00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:21.080
+based in Canada in Vancouver.
+
+00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:24.080
+And many of these companies seem to be entangled
+
+00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:29.080
+in a AI machine learning type software stack
+
+00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:31.080
+that is designed to bypass
+
+00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:35.080
+or to reinvigorate the antibody patent paradox.
+
+00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:40.080
+Now, it is not by myself that I did this.
+
+00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:41.080
+It's a lot of work.
+
+00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:45.080
+Most of the work done by Mark Koolack,
+
+00:14:45.080 --> 00:14:47.080
+who found a lot of these companies,
+
+00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:50.080
+did a lot of leg work on archiving all of the data from them
+
+00:14:50.080 --> 00:14:52.080
+and all of the information about them
+
+00:14:52.080 --> 00:14:55.080
+so that we can compare them across pages.
+
+00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:58.080
+And so I think we've discovered something here
+
+00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.080
+that's worth talking about because of the long-standing relationship
+
+00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:05.080
+between Moderna, Absolular, and Epivax.
+
+00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:10.080
+All of these people, especially, I think, Annie DeGroote,
+
+00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:15.080
+they're all interesting people that are probably underrated.
+
+00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:19.080
+Robert Malone, also, in his connections with these people,
+
+00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:23.080
+I think it's a pretty spot-on observation
+
+00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:28.080
+to think that George Webb, Boston Consulting,
+
+00:15:28.080 --> 00:15:33.080
+Pfizer, and Robert Malone are all kind of one show
+
+00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:39.080
+with Veritas and making us think that this kind of thing.
+
+00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:42.080
+And of course, the future is personalized medicine.
+
+00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:46.080
+And so we're being distracted actively by these people.
+
+00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:48.080
+We're being made to ask the wrong questions.
+
+00:15:48.080 --> 00:15:49.080
+That's their main job.
+
+00:15:49.080 --> 00:15:51.080
+And it's taken me a long time to figure out,
+
+00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:54.080
+or think I'm close to figuring out what it is their job is.
+
+00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.080
+I think because it's so flexible,
+
+00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:00.080
+their job is to make you ask the wrong question
+
+00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.080
+that if you won't ask that question,
+
+00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:04.080
+they can try and make you ask that one
+
+00:16:04.080 --> 00:16:08.080
+or put another shiny object in front of you for you to chase.
+
+00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:10.080
+And that's why they keep coming back.
+
+00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:12.080
+That's why you can't ever get rid of them,
+
+00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:14.080
+because if the last story didn't catch your attention,
+
+00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.080
+and it wasn't getting enough clicks,
+
+00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:18.080
+well, I got another one for you now.
+
+00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:20.080
+And that's how you can almost see
+
+00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:22.080
+how Robert Malone's evolution has occurred.
+
+00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:24.080
+You know, little bits and pieces here,
+
+00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:28.080
+and he only gives you as much as you need to keep you moving along.
+
+00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:30.080
+And a lot of these people play that game.
+
+00:16:36.080 --> 00:16:38.080
+And the reason why they're playing that game
+
+00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:40.080
+is because there is a time point we're at
+
+00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:46.080
+where we basically need the my kids age,
+
+00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:48.080
+the teenagers, we need to get them on board
+
+00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:52.080
+with the idea that there is a pandemic potential everywhere,
+
+00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:54.080
+and therefore, in order to protect you from it,
+
+00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:58.080
+we need vaccines, we need digital medical records,
+
+00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:00.080
+and we need to keep track of who's vaccinated.
+
+00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:04.080
+Otherwise, the potential for pandemics is just too great.
+
+00:17:04.080 --> 00:17:06.080
+And the real hidden message here
+
+00:17:06.080 --> 00:17:08.080
+is that they want to collect as much medical data
+
+00:17:08.080 --> 00:17:12.080
+and combine it with genotypic and phenotypic data
+
+00:17:12.080 --> 00:17:14.080
+as they possibly can.
+
+00:17:14.080 --> 00:17:18.080
+So that someday, in the near or far future,
+
+00:17:18.080 --> 00:17:20.080
+they can use AI to crack the human genome.
+
+00:17:20.080 --> 00:17:22.080
+That's the joke.
+
+00:17:22.080 --> 00:17:26.080
+They tell everybody that's the story they tell at the dinner table
+
+00:17:26.080 --> 00:17:28.080
+after these big conferences.
+
+00:17:28.080 --> 00:17:30.080
+When they take you to the secret meeting,
+
+00:17:30.080 --> 00:17:32.080
+that's what they tell you we're really up to.
+
+00:17:32.080 --> 00:17:35.080
+And so it's fine if the masses think
+
+00:17:35.080 --> 00:17:37.080
+we're trying to get rid of them,
+
+00:17:37.080 --> 00:17:39.080
+because we are trying to get rid of some of them,
+
+00:17:39.080 --> 00:17:41.080
+we don't need the adults.
+
+00:17:41.080 --> 00:17:43.080
+There's not enough time for us
+
+00:17:43.080 --> 00:17:45.080
+to collect anything meaningful for them,
+
+00:17:45.080 --> 00:17:47.080
+what we really need are babies.
+
+00:17:47.080 --> 00:17:49.080
+And that's the literal truth.
+
+00:17:49.080 --> 00:17:53.080
+They need to convince the next generation
+
+00:17:53.080 --> 00:17:57.080
+of parents that surrendering their kids
+
+00:17:57.080 --> 00:17:59.080
+genetic and medical data, it was normal,
+
+00:17:59.080 --> 00:18:03.080
+is part of what you owe to society as a parent.
+
+00:18:03.080 --> 00:18:07.080
+I can guarantee you 100%
+
+00:18:07.080 --> 00:18:11.080
+that that's where this is going.
+
+00:18:11.080 --> 00:18:13.080
+And they're not trying to convince me, I got kids.
+
+00:18:13.080 --> 00:18:15.080
+They're not trying to convince you, you got kids,
+
+00:18:15.080 --> 00:18:17.080
+and you don't know exactly what your responsibilities are
+
+00:18:17.080 --> 00:18:19.080
+for them and to them.
+
+00:18:19.080 --> 00:18:21.080
+But they're trying slowly
+
+00:18:21.080 --> 00:18:25.080
+to change how my son will think about his kids
+
+00:18:25.080 --> 00:18:27.080
+because it's my son's kids they want.
+
+00:18:27.080 --> 00:18:29.080
+And if you don't see
+
+00:18:29.080 --> 00:18:33.080
+that this is at least a generation ahead
+
+00:18:33.080 --> 00:18:35.080
+of what they're trying to get to, so 20 years from now,
+
+00:18:35.080 --> 00:18:37.080
+then you're not looking far enough ahead.
+
+00:18:37.080 --> 00:18:39.080
+That's how this game is played.
+
+00:18:39.080 --> 00:18:43.080
+It's a multi-generational game
+
+00:18:43.080 --> 00:18:45.080
+for all the marbles.
+
+00:18:45.080 --> 00:18:47.080
+It's not for 10 years from now.
+
+00:18:47.080 --> 00:18:49.080
+And although the election next year is important,
+
+00:18:49.080 --> 00:18:53.080
+their plans don't hinge on it.
+
+00:18:53.080 --> 00:18:55.080
+Because they're flexible.
+
+00:18:55.080 --> 00:18:57.080
+They can always bring something else.
+
+00:18:57.080 --> 00:19:01.080
+And so the point is is that we've got a few years
+
+00:19:01.080 --> 00:19:03.080
+for everybody to learn the biology well enough
+
+00:19:03.080 --> 00:19:05.080
+to declare their freedom.
+
+00:19:05.080 --> 00:19:09.080
+Or at some point they're just going to continue
+
+00:19:09.080 --> 00:19:13.080
+to push the physical manifestation
+
+00:19:13.080 --> 00:19:17.080
+of public health.
+
+00:19:17.080 --> 00:19:19.080
+They can keep releasing clones.
+
+00:19:19.080 --> 00:19:21.080
+They can keep making people sick.
+
+00:19:21.080 --> 00:19:23.080
+They can keep poisoning people
+
+00:19:23.080 --> 00:19:25.080
+and blaming it on mother nature.
+
+00:19:25.080 --> 00:19:27.080
+That is not a problem.
+
+00:19:27.080 --> 00:19:29.080
+And if they have to, they will.
+
+00:19:29.080 --> 00:19:31.080
+So I thought it would be really important
+
+00:19:31.080 --> 00:19:33.080
+as we're trying to track down
+
+00:19:33.080 --> 00:19:35.080
+this long-term timeline
+
+00:19:35.080 --> 00:19:37.080
+and we're trying to see the people in it.
+
+00:19:37.080 --> 00:19:39.080
+I thought it would be really instructive
+
+00:19:39.080 --> 00:19:41.080
+for you to see this video,
+
+00:19:41.080 --> 00:19:43.080
+which was just released today
+
+00:19:43.080 --> 00:19:45.080
+by the Huberman lab.
+
+00:19:45.080 --> 00:19:47.080
+Now I'm no fear familiar with the Huberman lab,
+
+00:19:47.080 --> 00:19:49.080
+but he's a neurobiologist at Stanford.
+
+00:19:49.080 --> 00:19:53.080
+And if you watch his YouTube about the brain
+
+00:19:53.080 --> 00:19:55.080
+and about motivation
+
+00:19:55.080 --> 00:19:57.080
+and about dopamine
+
+00:19:57.080 --> 00:19:59.080
+and about vision,
+
+00:19:59.080 --> 00:20:01.080
+he is one of the sharpest knives in the drawer.
+
+00:20:01.080 --> 00:20:03.080
+And I would dare to say
+
+00:20:03.080 --> 00:20:05.080
+that he's another one of these people
+
+00:20:05.080 --> 00:20:07.080
+that I'm in his field
+
+00:20:07.080 --> 00:20:09.080
+and I would humbly submit
+
+00:20:09.080 --> 00:20:11.080
+that that guy is a beast.
+
+00:20:11.080 --> 00:20:13.080
+So I would love to have a conversation with him.
+
+00:20:13.080 --> 00:20:15.080
+I'd love to talk to him about immunology.
+
+00:20:15.080 --> 00:20:17.080
+It wouldn't surprise me
+
+00:20:17.080 --> 00:20:21.080
+if he knew about as much about immunology as I do.
+
+00:20:21.080 --> 00:20:23.080
+He's a very, very bright guy.
+
+00:20:23.080 --> 00:20:25.080
+But what I want you to see here
+
+00:20:27.080 --> 00:20:29.080
+is how a guy who works at Stanford
+
+00:20:29.080 --> 00:20:31.080
+has ten year at Stanford
+
+00:20:31.080 --> 00:20:33.080
+and he's a baller.
+
+00:20:33.080 --> 00:20:35.080
+This guy is a beast.
+
+00:20:35.080 --> 00:20:39.080
+He's super, super on top of the literature.
+
+00:20:39.080 --> 00:20:41.080
+He's really in front
+
+00:20:41.080 --> 00:20:45.080
+of the main theories of neuroscience
+
+00:20:45.080 --> 00:20:47.080
+and I look up to him with the greatest respect
+
+00:20:47.080 --> 00:20:49.080
+with regard to that field.
+
+00:20:49.080 --> 00:20:51.080
+And as a successful academic,
+
+00:20:51.080 --> 00:20:53.080
+I mean, you know,
+
+00:20:53.080 --> 00:20:55.080
+he's as good as they get, I guess.
+
+00:20:55.080 --> 00:20:57.080
+I mean, he's not some Nobel prize dude.
+
+00:20:57.080 --> 00:20:59.080
+I mean, he's a solid Stanford professor.
+
+00:20:59.080 --> 00:21:01.080
+Let me say it like that, okay?
+
+00:21:01.080 --> 00:21:03.080
+What I want you to see here
+
+00:21:03.080 --> 00:21:05.080
+is that Dr. Priscilla Chan
+
+00:21:05.080 --> 00:21:07.080
+and Mark Zuckerberg
+
+00:21:07.080 --> 00:21:09.080
+are two rich people
+
+00:21:09.080 --> 00:21:13.080
+who do not defer to him
+
+00:21:13.080 --> 00:21:15.080
+as either smart
+
+00:21:15.080 --> 00:21:17.080
+or accomplished
+
+00:21:17.080 --> 00:21:19.080
+but rather defer to him
+
+00:21:19.080 --> 00:21:21.080
+as an interviewer
+
+00:21:21.080 --> 00:21:23.080
+or a podcaster.
+
+00:21:23.080 --> 00:21:25.080
+He might as well be
+
+00:21:25.080 --> 00:21:27.080
+me coming in there and saying
+
+00:21:27.080 --> 00:21:29.080
+hi, I'm a guy who works out of his garage
+
+00:21:29.080 --> 00:21:31.080
+and I'd like to talk to you.
+
+00:21:31.080 --> 00:21:33.080
+Tell us what you're going to do.
+
+00:21:33.080 --> 00:21:36.080
+And they tell him
+
+00:21:36.080 --> 00:21:38.080
+about their plan
+
+00:21:38.080 --> 00:21:40.080
+to cure
+
+00:21:40.080 --> 00:21:43.080
+all human diseases.
+
+00:21:43.080 --> 00:21:47.080
+Just want you to let that settle in.
+
+00:21:47.080 --> 00:21:51.080
+Android boy
+
+00:21:51.080 --> 00:21:53.080
+who says we're going to
+
+00:21:53.080 --> 00:21:55.080
+grill some meats.
+
+00:21:55.080 --> 00:21:57.080
+If you've never seen that Facebook video
+
+00:21:57.080 --> 00:21:59.080
+of him talking about smoking some meat
+
+00:21:59.080 --> 00:22:01.080
+in his backyard
+
+00:22:01.080 --> 00:22:03.080
+with his friends,
+
+00:22:03.080 --> 00:22:05.080
+please Google that
+
+00:22:05.080 --> 00:22:07.080
+and realize what we're dealing with here.
+
+00:22:07.080 --> 00:22:09.080
+This is a construct.
+
+00:22:09.080 --> 00:22:11.080
+This is some
+
+00:22:11.080 --> 00:22:13.080
+weird dude.
+
+00:22:13.080 --> 00:22:15.080
+I don't know what to tell you what he is
+
+00:22:15.080 --> 00:22:17.080
+but he's not just a guy with a company
+
+00:22:17.080 --> 00:22:19.080
+and that's not just his wife
+
+00:22:19.080 --> 00:22:21.080
+and you will see it
+
+00:22:21.080 --> 00:22:23.080
+as they talk.
+
+00:22:23.080 --> 00:22:25.080
+We are being ruled by these people.
+
+00:22:25.080 --> 00:22:27.080
+These unelected
+
+00:22:27.080 --> 00:22:29.080
+egomaniacs
+
+00:22:29.080 --> 00:22:31.080
+and I'm not talking about
+
+00:22:31.080 --> 00:22:33.080
+Huberman. I'm talking about these two
+
+00:22:33.080 --> 00:22:35.080
+and he went to their house
+
+00:22:35.080 --> 00:22:37.080
+so that's submission.
+
+00:22:37.080 --> 00:22:39.080
+Okay.
+
+00:22:39.080 --> 00:22:41.080
+I'm not saying that Huberman is submissive
+
+00:22:41.080 --> 00:22:43.080
+but I'm telling him
+
+00:22:43.080 --> 00:22:45.080
+if you're listening
+
+00:22:45.080 --> 00:22:47.080
+Mr. Dr. Huberman
+
+00:22:47.080 --> 00:22:49.080
+that's what you've done.
+
+00:22:49.080 --> 00:22:51.080
+You submitted to them
+
+00:22:51.080 --> 00:22:53.080
+and they show they act like you're
+
+00:22:53.080 --> 00:22:55.080
+submitting to them.
+
+00:22:55.080 --> 00:22:57.080
+The arrogance
+
+00:22:57.080 --> 00:22:59.080
+that Priscilla Chan speaks
+
+00:22:59.080 --> 00:23:01.080
+with here as somebody who's almost
+
+00:23:01.080 --> 00:23:03.080
+never been on camera in America
+
+00:23:03.080 --> 00:23:05.080
+she speaks as though she's already
+
+00:23:05.080 --> 00:23:07.080
+president or something
+
+00:23:07.080 --> 00:23:09.080
+and remember what they're talking about.
+
+00:23:09.080 --> 00:23:11.080
+They're talking about the future of health
+
+00:23:11.080 --> 00:23:13.080
+and technology and curing all
+
+00:23:13.080 --> 00:23:15.080
+human diseases.
+
+00:23:15.080 --> 00:23:17.080
+This is some serious
+
+00:23:17.080 --> 00:23:19.080
+serious talk.
+
+00:23:19.080 --> 00:23:21.080
+By the way, I think this is what happened
+
+00:23:21.080 --> 00:23:23.080
+thanks to Allison for this link.
+
+00:23:23.080 --> 00:23:25.080
+I think I had a vocal hemorrhage
+
+00:23:25.080 --> 00:23:27.080
+so I had something
+
+00:23:27.080 --> 00:23:29.080
+there's a little thin layer of
+
+00:23:29.080 --> 00:23:31.080
+fibrous tissue that surrounds
+
+00:23:31.080 --> 00:23:33.080
+the outside of your vocal cords
+
+00:23:33.080 --> 00:23:35.080
+and if you abuse your vocal cords
+
+00:23:35.080 --> 00:23:37.080
+you can bleed there and then that will
+
+00:23:37.080 --> 00:23:39.080
+fill up with blood and I think what happened
+
+00:23:39.080 --> 00:23:41.080
+actually is that happened a
+
+00:23:41.080 --> 00:23:43.080
+long time ago
+
+00:23:43.080 --> 00:23:45.080
+and it got worse and worse.
+
+00:23:45.080 --> 00:23:47.080
+To the point it was like a big bubble
+
+00:23:47.080 --> 00:23:49.080
+or something because it was blocking
+
+00:23:49.080 --> 00:23:51.080
+my sleep and blocking my breathing
+
+00:23:51.080 --> 00:23:53.080
+when I was playing basketball and it felt
+
+00:23:53.080 --> 00:23:55.080
+like a bubble or a thump in my throat
+
+00:23:55.080 --> 00:23:59.080
+and so the amount of blood that came out
+
+00:23:59.080 --> 00:24:01.080
+not to be graphic or anything like that but
+
+00:24:01.080 --> 00:24:03.080
+it was a lot more blood than I'm seeing in this picture
+
+00:24:03.080 --> 00:24:05.080
+I mean it had to have been
+
+00:24:05.080 --> 00:24:07.080
+I don't know what way it was a quantity
+
+00:24:07.080 --> 00:24:09.080
+though you know so
+
+00:24:09.080 --> 00:24:11.080
+whatever happened I'm sure
+
+00:24:11.080 --> 00:24:13.080
+needs a chance to heal
+
+00:24:13.080 --> 00:24:15.080
+and most of these hemorrhages apparently
+
+00:24:15.080 --> 00:24:17.080
+will heal with immediate voice rest
+
+00:24:17.080 --> 00:24:19.080
+and that means limited or entirely
+
+00:24:19.080 --> 00:24:21.080
+suspended for several days
+
+00:24:21.080 --> 00:24:23.080
+which I haven't done
+
+00:24:23.080 --> 00:24:25.080
+so I still may have to do that
+
+00:24:25.080 --> 00:24:27.080
+but I'm not talking usually
+
+00:24:27.080 --> 00:24:29.080
+so I sit here all the time
+
+00:24:29.080 --> 00:24:31.080
+by myself
+
+00:24:31.080 --> 00:24:33.080
+but I was well never am I going to say that
+
+00:24:33.080 --> 00:24:35.080
+here we go
+
+00:24:35.080 --> 00:24:37.080
+these guys are crazy
+
+00:24:37.080 --> 00:24:39.080
+it's just nuts
+
+00:24:39.080 --> 00:24:41.080
+I can't even believe it
+
+00:24:41.080 --> 00:24:43.080
+I'm going to put myself a little
+
+00:24:43.080 --> 00:24:45.080
+smaller
+
+00:24:45.080 --> 00:24:47.080
+please
+
+00:24:47.080 --> 00:24:51.080
+it's extraordinary
+
+00:24:51.080 --> 00:24:53.080
+I don't know how long we're going to watch it
+
+00:24:53.080 --> 00:24:55.080
+we're not going to watch the whole thing
+
+00:24:55.080 --> 00:24:57.080
+it's like two hours long so I'm not going to watch it
+
+00:24:57.080 --> 00:24:59.080
+what I really want you to do
+
+00:24:59.080 --> 00:25:01.080
+is the language that they're using
+
+00:25:01.080 --> 00:25:03.080
+and the lack of depth
+
+00:25:03.080 --> 00:25:05.080
+that they describe the concepts
+
+00:25:05.080 --> 00:25:07.080
+let me remember what we're saying here
+
+00:25:07.080 --> 00:25:09.080
+they're talking to a
+
+00:25:09.080 --> 00:25:11.080
+Stanford neurobiologist
+
+00:25:11.080 --> 00:25:15.080
+who podcasts and communicates
+
+00:25:15.080 --> 00:25:19.080
+about science as his part-time fun job
+
+00:25:19.080 --> 00:25:21.080
+and so
+
+00:25:21.080 --> 00:25:23.080
+he's a
+
+00:25:23.080 --> 00:25:25.080
+in-depth interviewer
+
+00:25:25.080 --> 00:25:27.080
+you can understand things right
+
+00:25:27.080 --> 00:25:29.080
+and
+
+00:25:29.080 --> 00:25:31.080
+to make the claim that you're going to cure all diseases
+
+00:25:31.080 --> 00:25:33.080
+by collecting data
+
+00:25:33.080 --> 00:25:35.080
+Huberman's the kind of guy
+
+00:25:35.080 --> 00:25:37.080
+who could in theory demand
+
+00:25:37.080 --> 00:25:39.080
+a better explanation
+
+00:25:39.080 --> 00:25:41.080
+so let's hold him to account as well
+
+00:25:41.080 --> 00:25:43.080
+as Huberman calling out
+
+00:25:43.080 --> 00:25:46.080
+the BS that he's hearing or not
+
+00:25:46.080 --> 00:25:48.080
+and how much BS are we hearing
+
+00:25:48.080 --> 00:25:50.080
+I'll try to take some notes
+
+00:25:50.080 --> 00:25:52.080
+but I'll probably just interrupt
+
+00:25:52.080 --> 00:25:54.080
+too
+
+00:25:54.080 --> 00:25:56.080
+anyway let me see
+
+00:25:56.080 --> 00:25:58.080
+maybe I'm just gonna speed it up just
+
+00:25:58.080 --> 00:26:02.080
+a tad okay not a lot just a tad
+
+00:26:02.080 --> 00:26:04.080
+Welcome to the Huberman Lab Podcast
+
+00:26:04.080 --> 00:26:06.080
+where we discuss science
+
+00:26:06.080 --> 00:26:08.080
+and science-based tools for everyday life
+
+00:26:08.080 --> 00:26:11.080
+I'm Andrew Huberman
+
+00:26:11.080 --> 00:26:13.080
+and I'm a professor of neurobiology
+
+00:26:13.080 --> 00:26:15.080
+and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine
+
+00:26:15.080 --> 00:26:17.080
+My guest today are Mark Zuckerberg
+
+00:26:17.080 --> 00:26:18.080
+and Dr. Priscilla Chan
+
+00:26:18.080 --> 00:26:20.080
+Mark Zuckerberg, as everybody knows
+
+00:26:20.080 --> 00:26:22.080
+founded the company Facebook
+
+00:26:22.080 --> 00:26:24.080
+is now the CEO of Meta
+
+00:26:24.080 --> 00:26:26.080
+which includes Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp
+
+00:26:26.080 --> 00:26:28.080
+and other technology platforms
+
+00:26:28.080 --> 00:26:30.080
+Dr. Priscilla Chan graduated from Harvard
+
+00:26:30.080 --> 00:26:32.080
+and went on to do her medical degree
+
+00:26:32.080 --> 00:26:34.080
+at the University of California San Francisco
+
+00:26:34.080 --> 00:26:36.080
+Mark Zuckerberg and Dr. Priscilla Chan
+
+00:26:36.080 --> 00:26:38.080
+are married and the co-founders
+
+00:26:38.080 --> 00:26:40.080
+of the CZI or Chan Zuckerberg Initiative
+
+00:26:40.080 --> 00:26:42.080
+a philanthropic organization
+
+00:26:42.080 --> 00:26:44.080
+whose stated goal is to cure all human diseases
+
+00:26:44.080 --> 00:26:46.080
+The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative is accomplishing that
+
+00:26:46.080 --> 00:26:48.080
+by providing critical funding
+
+00:26:48.080 --> 00:26:49.080
+not available elsewhere
+
+00:26:49.080 --> 00:26:50.080
+as well as a novel framework
+
+00:26:50.080 --> 00:26:51.080
+functioning of cells
+
+00:26:51.080 --> 00:26:53.080
+cataloging all the different human cell types
+
+00:26:53.080 --> 00:26:56.080
+as well as providing AI or artificial intelligence platforms
+
+00:26:56.080 --> 00:26:57.080
+to mine all of that data
+
+00:26:57.080 --> 00:26:59.080
+to discover new pathways and cures
+
+00:26:59.080 --> 00:27:00.080
+for all human diseases
+
+00:27:00.080 --> 00:27:02.080
+The first hour of today's discussion
+
+00:27:02.080 --> 00:27:04.080
+is held with both Dr. Priscilla Chan
+
+00:27:04.080 --> 00:27:05.080
+and Mark Zuckerberg
+
+00:27:05.080 --> 00:27:06.080
+during which we discuss the CZI
+
+00:27:06.080 --> 00:27:08.080
+I mean think about what he just said there
+
+00:27:08.080 --> 00:27:10.080
+I kind of agree with Jason M
+
+00:27:10.080 --> 00:27:11.080
+what a cartoon goal
+
+00:27:11.080 --> 00:27:13.080
+basically he says
+
+00:27:13.080 --> 00:27:15.080
+we're going to collect so much data
+
+00:27:15.080 --> 00:27:16.080
+that will understand it
+
+00:27:16.080 --> 00:27:18.080
+that's kind of like saying
+
+00:27:18.080 --> 00:27:19.080
+we're going to measure the weather
+
+00:27:19.080 --> 00:27:21.080
+in so many places around the world
+
+00:27:21.080 --> 00:27:22.080
+and feed it into a computer
+
+00:27:22.080 --> 00:27:23.080
+if we measure it in enough places
+
+00:27:23.080 --> 00:27:26.080
+we're going to know what the weather is forever
+
+00:27:26.080 --> 00:27:29.080
+it's a similar statement
+
+00:27:29.080 --> 00:27:31.080
+we're going to collect so much weather data
+
+00:27:31.080 --> 00:27:33.080
+that we're going to understand how storms work
+
+00:27:33.080 --> 00:27:36.080
+and we're going to be able to predict the weather better than ever
+
+00:27:36.080 --> 00:27:40.080
+except you're talking about a biological
+
+00:27:40.080 --> 00:27:42.080
+pattern integrity
+
+00:27:42.080 --> 00:27:44.080
+that's somehow governed by genetics
+
+00:27:44.080 --> 00:27:45.080
+but we don't know how
+
+00:27:45.080 --> 00:27:47.080
+and you're going to figure it out
+
+00:27:47.080 --> 00:27:48.080
+by collecting a bunch of data
+
+00:27:48.080 --> 00:27:50.080
+and that sounds great
+
+00:27:50.080 --> 00:27:52.080
+but the way that he's selling it
+
+00:27:52.080 --> 00:27:54.080
+and the way that he's accepting it
+
+00:27:54.080 --> 00:27:57.080
+I agree he's almost got to be a seller
+
+00:27:57.080 --> 00:27:58.080
+like this is
+
+00:27:58.080 --> 00:27:59.080
+you're going to see it
+
+00:27:59.080 --> 00:28:00.080
+I'll get to let him talk
+
+00:28:00.080 --> 00:28:02.080
+because at least he's got to give an introduction
+
+00:28:02.080 --> 00:28:04.080
+but it's brutal
+
+00:28:04.080 --> 00:28:06.080
+it really means to try and cure all human diseases
+
+00:28:06.080 --> 00:28:08.080
+we talk about the motivational backbone for the CZI
+
+00:28:08.080 --> 00:28:11.080
+that extends well into each of their personal histories
+
+00:28:11.080 --> 00:28:12.080
+indeed you'll learn quite a lot
+
+00:28:12.080 --> 00:28:13.080
+about Dr. Priscilla Chan
+
+00:28:13.080 --> 00:28:14.080
+who has
+
+00:28:14.080 --> 00:28:16.080
+I must say an absolutely incredible family story
+
+00:28:16.080 --> 00:28:17.080
+leading up to her role as a physician
+
+00:28:17.080 --> 00:28:19.080
+and her motivations for the CZI
+
+00:28:19.080 --> 00:28:20.080
+and beyond
+
+00:28:20.080 --> 00:28:21.080
+and you'll learn from Mark
+
+00:28:21.080 --> 00:28:23.080
+how he's bringing an engineering and AI perspective
+
+00:28:23.080 --> 00:28:25.080
+to the discovery of new cures for human disease
+
+00:28:25.080 --> 00:28:27.080
+the second half of today's discussion
+
+00:28:27.080 --> 00:28:29.080
+is just between Mark Zuckerberg and me
+
+00:28:29.080 --> 00:28:31.080
+during which we discuss various meta platforms
+
+00:28:31.080 --> 00:28:33.080
+including of course social media platforms
+
+00:28:33.080 --> 00:28:35.080
+and their effects on mental health in children and adults
+
+00:28:35.080 --> 00:28:37.080
+we also discuss VR, virtual reality
+
+00:28:37.080 --> 00:28:39.080
+as well as augmented and mixed reality
+
+00:28:39.080 --> 00:28:41.080
+and we discuss AI, artificial intelligence
+
+00:28:41.080 --> 00:28:44.080
+and how it stands to transform not just our online experiences
+
+00:28:44.080 --> 00:28:46.080
+with social media and other technologies
+
+00:28:46.080 --> 00:28:48.080
+and how it stands to potentially transform
+
+00:28:48.080 --> 00:28:50.080
+every aspect of everyday life
+
+00:28:50.080 --> 00:28:52.080
+before we begin I'd like to emphasize that this podcast
+
+00:28:52.080 --> 00:28:54.080
+is separate from my teaching and research roles at Stanford
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+00:28:54.080 --> 00:28:56.080
+it is however part of my desire and effort
+
+00:28:56.080 --> 00:28:58.080
+to bring zero cost to consumer information about
+
+00:28:58.080 --> 00:29:00.080
+okay so now
+
+00:29:00.080 --> 00:29:02.080
+I'm gonna let his sponsors play out
+
+00:29:02.080 --> 00:29:04.080
+because I want you to hear who they are
+
+00:29:04.080 --> 00:29:06.080
+and then realize who else they sponsor
+
+00:29:06.080 --> 00:29:08.080
+a limit or no
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+00:29:08.080 --> 00:29:11.080
+element is one of his sponsors
+
+00:29:11.080 --> 00:29:13.080
+element is this salt drink
+
+00:29:13.080 --> 00:29:15.080
+that a lot of these sports guys run
+
+00:29:15.080 --> 00:29:17.080
+so there's like five other podcasts
+
+00:29:17.080 --> 00:29:19.080
+that are kind of underneath Joe Rogan
+
+00:29:19.080 --> 00:29:23.080
+and they're all sponsored by that
+
+00:29:25.080 --> 00:29:27.080
+and you'll hear a couple other ones too
+
+00:29:27.080 --> 00:29:29.080
+maybe I don't know
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+00:29:29.080 --> 00:29:31.080
+science and science related tools to the general public
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+in keeping with that theme
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+I'd like to thank the sponsors of today's podcast
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+that's a lot of water
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+I'll often also have
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+00:29:48.080 --> 00:29:50.080
+www.lmnt.com.com
+
+00:29:50.080 --> 00:29:52.080
+I'm pleased to announce that we will be
+
+00:29:52.080 --> 00:29:54.080
+hosting four live events in Australia
+
+00:29:54.080 --> 00:29:55.080
+we've now scheduled
+
+00:29:55.080 --> 00:29:56.080
+oh yeah I forgot
+
+00:29:56.080 --> 00:29:57.080
+each of which is entitled
+
+00:29:57.080 --> 00:29:58.080
+www.blackcom.com
+
+00:29:58.080 --> 00:30:00.080
+to get a free sample pack with your purchase
+
+00:30:00.080 --> 00:30:02.080
+again that's www.drinklmnt.com
+
+00:30:02.080 --> 00:30:04.080
+it's also interesting that he's gonna host
+
+00:30:04.080 --> 00:30:06.080
+and he's to announce that we will be hosting four live events in Australia
+
+00:30:06.080 --> 00:30:08.080
+each of which is entitled The Brain Body Contract
+
+00:30:08.080 --> 00:30:10.080
+during which I will share science
+
+00:30:10.080 --> 00:30:12.080
+and science related tools for mental health
+
+00:30:12.080 --> 00:30:13.080
+physical health and performance
+
+00:30:13.080 --> 00:30:15.080
+so let's get him some world travel
+
+00:30:15.080 --> 00:30:17.080
+get him to Australia
+
+00:30:17.080 --> 00:30:19.080
+and then get him to talk about nothing
+
+00:30:19.080 --> 00:30:21.080
+to do with the last three years of life
+
+00:30:21.080 --> 00:30:24.080
+get him lots of hotel rooms
+
+00:30:24.080 --> 00:30:26.080
+and stuff like that
+
+00:30:26.080 --> 00:30:28.080
+I think you can see it
+
+00:30:28.080 --> 00:30:30.080
+he's definitely been co-opted
+
+00:30:30.080 --> 00:30:31.080
+he's got a great job at Stanford
+
+00:30:31.080 --> 00:30:33.080
+he's never gonna question the narrative
+
+00:30:33.080 --> 00:30:36.080
+even if he realizes that they're overextended
+
+00:30:36.080 --> 00:30:39.080
+it's obvious that he probably believes in the
+
+00:30:39.080 --> 00:30:41.080
+in the basic public health narrative
+
+00:30:41.080 --> 00:30:43.080
+so that's unfortunate
+
+00:30:43.080 --> 00:30:45.080
+let's go
+
+00:30:45.080 --> 00:30:47.080
+also be a live question and answer session
+
+00:30:47.080 --> 00:30:49.080
+we have limited tickets still available
+
+00:30:49.080 --> 00:30:51.080
+for the event in Melbourne on February 10th
+
+00:30:51.080 --> 00:30:53.080
+as well as the event in Brisbane on February 24th
+
+00:30:53.080 --> 00:30:55.080
+our event in Sydney at the Sydney Opera House
+
+00:30:55.080 --> 00:30:57.080
+sold out very quickly
+
+00:30:57.080 --> 00:30:59.080
+so as a consequence we've now scheduled
+
+00:30:59.080 --> 00:31:01.080
+if I learned about this a few years ago
+
+00:31:01.080 --> 00:31:03.080
+when my lab talked so great to meet you
+
+00:31:03.080 --> 00:31:05.080
+and thank you for having me here in your home
+
+00:31:05.080 --> 00:31:07.080
+thanks for having us on the podcast
+
+00:31:07.080 --> 00:31:09.080
+I'd like to talk about the CZI
+
+00:31:09.080 --> 00:31:11.080
+Zuckerberg initiative
+
+00:31:11.080 --> 00:31:13.080
+I learned about this a few years ago
+
+00:31:13.080 --> 00:31:15.080
+when my lab was and still is now at Stanford
+
+00:31:15.080 --> 00:31:17.080
+as a very exciting philanthropic effort
+
+00:31:17.080 --> 00:31:19.080
+that has a truly big mission
+
+00:31:19.080 --> 00:31:21.080
+I can't imagine a bigger mission
+
+00:31:21.080 --> 00:31:23.080
+so maybe you can tell us what that big mission is
+
+00:31:23.080 --> 00:31:25.080
+and then we can get into some of the mechanics of how that
+
+00:31:25.080 --> 00:31:27.080
+don't forget that the Chan Zuckerberg initiative
+
+00:31:27.080 --> 00:31:29.080
+is also responsible for BioArchive
+
+00:31:29.080 --> 00:31:31.080
+which was one of these
+
+00:31:31.080 --> 00:31:33.080
+preprint servers that really ruined
+
+00:31:33.080 --> 00:31:35.080
+the beginning of the pandemic with noise
+
+00:31:35.080 --> 00:31:39.080
+big mission can become a reality
+
+00:31:39.080 --> 00:31:43.080
+so like you're mentioning in 2015
+
+00:31:43.080 --> 00:31:45.080
+we launched the Chan Zuckerberg initiative
+
+00:31:45.080 --> 00:31:47.080
+and what we were hoping to do at CZI
+
+00:31:47.080 --> 00:31:49.080
+was think about how do we build a better future
+
+00:31:49.080 --> 00:31:51.080
+for everyone and looking for ways
+
+00:31:51.080 --> 00:31:53.080
+where we can contribute the resources
+
+00:31:53.080 --> 00:31:55.080
+that we have to bring philanthropically
+
+00:31:55.080 --> 00:31:57.080
+and the experiences that Mark and I have had
+
+00:31:57.080 --> 00:31:59.080
+for me as a physician and educator
+
+00:31:59.080 --> 00:32:01.080
+for Mark as an engineer
+
+00:32:01.080 --> 00:32:03.080
+and then our ability to bring teams together
+
+00:32:03.080 --> 00:32:05.080
+to build the builders
+
+00:32:05.080 --> 00:32:07.080
+you know Mark has been a builder throughout his career
+
+00:32:07.080 --> 00:32:09.080
+and what could we do if we actually put together a team
+
+00:32:09.080 --> 00:32:11.080
+to build tools
+
+00:32:11.080 --> 00:32:13.080
+do great science
+
+00:32:13.080 --> 00:32:15.080
+and so within our science portfolio
+
+00:32:15.080 --> 00:32:17.080
+we've really been focused on what
+
+00:32:17.080 --> 00:32:19.080
+some people think is either an incredibly
+
+00:32:19.080 --> 00:32:21.080
+audacious goal or
+
+00:32:21.080 --> 00:32:23.080
+an inevitable goal but I think about it
+
+00:32:23.080 --> 00:32:25.080
+as something that will happen if we sort of continue
+
+00:32:25.080 --> 00:32:27.080
+focusing on it which is to be able to
+
+00:32:27.080 --> 00:32:29.080
+cure prevent or manage all disease by the end of the century
+
+00:32:29.080 --> 00:32:31.080
+all disease so that's important
+
+00:32:31.080 --> 00:32:33.080
+right a lot of times people ask like which
+
+00:32:33.080 --> 00:32:35.080
+disease and the whole point is that there is
+
+00:32:35.080 --> 00:32:37.080
+not one disease and it's really about
+
+00:32:37.080 --> 00:32:39.080
+taking a step back to where I always
+
+00:32:39.080 --> 00:32:41.080
+found the most hope as a physician
+
+00:32:41.080 --> 00:32:43.080
+which is new discoveries
+
+00:32:43.080 --> 00:32:45.080
+and new opportunities and new ways of
+
+00:32:45.080 --> 00:32:47.080
+understanding how to keep people well
+
+00:32:47.080 --> 00:32:49.080
+come from basic science
+
+00:32:49.080 --> 00:32:51.080
+what she just said makes absolutely no sense
+
+00:32:51.080 --> 00:32:53.080
+and is no way related
+
+00:32:53.080 --> 00:32:55.080
+to this absolutely ridiculous
+
+00:32:55.080 --> 00:32:57.080
+goal of flying to the sun and
+
+00:32:57.080 --> 00:32:59.080
+touching it with your tongue
+
+00:32:59.080 --> 00:33:01.080
+I mean I don't even know what she's talking about
+
+00:33:01.080 --> 00:33:03.080
+we're going to cure all diseases
+
+00:33:03.080 --> 00:33:05.080
+and that's really important right it's all diseases
+
+00:33:05.080 --> 00:33:07.080
+mm-hmm
+
+00:33:07.080 --> 00:33:09.080
+do you mean diseases
+
+00:33:09.080 --> 00:33:11.080
+like infectious diseases
+
+00:33:11.080 --> 00:33:13.080
+or do you mean like genetic diseases
+
+00:33:13.080 --> 00:33:15.080
+or do you mean like bacterial
+
+00:33:15.080 --> 00:33:17.080
+infections or
+
+00:33:17.080 --> 00:33:19.080
+do you mean like
+
+00:33:19.080 --> 00:33:21.080
+screen addiction
+
+00:33:21.080 --> 00:33:23.080
+or
+
+00:33:23.080 --> 00:33:25.080
+or you see
+
+00:33:25.080 --> 00:33:27.080
+this is the kind of bamboozlement
+
+00:33:27.080 --> 00:33:29.080
+that gets done when you're trying to get
+
+00:33:29.080 --> 00:33:31.080
+the money from venture capitalists
+
+00:33:31.080 --> 00:33:33.080
+when you're trying to get money from
+
+00:33:33.080 --> 00:33:35.080
+people who don't understand
+
+00:33:35.080 --> 00:33:37.080
+who have been inside of the mythology
+
+00:33:37.080 --> 00:33:39.080
+for so long
+
+00:33:39.080 --> 00:33:41.080
+that this all sounds real
+
+00:33:41.080 --> 00:33:43.080
+this is one of the biggest
+
+00:33:43.080 --> 00:33:45.080
+snake oil salesman couples
+
+00:33:45.080 --> 00:33:47.080
+on the planet
+
+00:33:47.080 --> 00:33:49.080
+this is a non-elected
+
+00:33:49.080 --> 00:33:51.080
+I don't even know
+
+00:33:51.080 --> 00:33:53.080
+why she started out talking first
+
+00:33:53.080 --> 00:33:55.080
+have you ever heard her speak before
+
+00:33:55.080 --> 00:33:57.080
+why do I want to hear her speak?
+
+00:33:57.080 --> 00:33:59.080
+she's just a doctor
+
+00:33:59.080 --> 00:34:01.080
+she didn't even become rich
+
+00:34:01.080 --> 00:34:03.080
+for any particularly good reason
+
+00:34:03.080 --> 00:34:05.080
+other than for the fact
+
+00:34:05.080 --> 00:34:07.080
+that her husband apparently
+
+00:34:07.080 --> 00:34:09.080
+invented a platform
+
+00:34:09.080 --> 00:34:11.080
+that's being used to control most of America
+
+00:34:11.080 --> 00:34:13.080
+in the world
+
+00:34:13.080 --> 00:34:15.080
+you're right
+
+00:34:15.080 --> 00:34:17.080
+it's really annoying
+
+00:34:17.080 --> 00:34:19.080
+to me right now
+
+00:34:19.080 --> 00:34:21.080
+how many of these people presume to govern us
+
+00:34:21.080 --> 00:34:23.080
+just based on the fact
+
+00:34:23.080 --> 00:34:25.080
+that the system has made them rich
+
+00:34:25.080 --> 00:34:27.080
+a system has made them
+
+00:34:27.080 --> 00:34:29.080
+artificially rich
+
+00:34:29.080 --> 00:34:31.080
+has raised them
+
+00:34:31.080 --> 00:34:33.080
+artificially to be
+
+00:34:33.080 --> 00:34:35.080
+a player at this stage
+
+00:34:35.080 --> 00:34:37.080
+this android person over here
+
+00:34:37.080 --> 00:34:39.080
+is not a
+
+00:34:39.080 --> 00:34:41.080
+thought leader in any circle
+
+00:34:41.080 --> 00:34:43.080
+that he ever sits in
+
+00:34:43.080 --> 00:34:45.080
+at any dinner table he's ever at
+
+00:34:45.080 --> 00:34:47.080
+and that's not a wife
+
+00:34:47.080 --> 00:34:49.080
+who loves him
+
+00:34:49.080 --> 00:34:51.080
+this is not a married couple
+
+00:34:51.080 --> 00:34:53.080
+that sleeps together at night naked
+
+00:34:53.080 --> 00:34:55.080
+are you joking?
+
+00:34:55.080 --> 00:34:57.080
+watch them interact
+
+00:34:57.080 --> 00:34:59.080
+over the next ten minutes
+
+00:34:59.080 --> 00:35:01.080
+and tell me you see a couple in love
+
+00:35:01.080 --> 00:35:03.080
+it's pathetic
+
+00:35:03.080 --> 00:35:05.080
+we are being lied to
+
+00:35:05.080 --> 00:35:07.080
+by liars
+
+00:35:11.080 --> 00:35:13.080
+so our strategy at CZI
+
+00:35:13.080 --> 00:35:15.080
+is really to build tools
+
+00:35:15.080 --> 00:35:17.080
+fund science
+
+00:35:17.080 --> 00:35:19.080
+change the way basic scientists can
+
+00:35:19.080 --> 00:35:21.080
+see the world and how they can
+
+00:35:21.080 --> 00:35:23.080
+move quickly in their discoveries
+
+00:35:23.080 --> 00:35:25.080
+and so that's what we launched
+
+00:35:25.080 --> 00:35:27.080
+in 2015
+
+00:35:27.080 --> 00:35:29.080
+we do work in three ways
+
+00:35:29.080 --> 00:35:31.080
+we fund great scientists
+
+00:35:31.080 --> 00:35:33.080
+we build tools
+
+00:35:33.080 --> 00:35:35.080
+right now software tools
+
+00:35:35.080 --> 00:35:37.080
+to help move science along
+
+00:35:37.080 --> 00:35:39.080
+and make it easier for scientists
+
+00:35:39.080 --> 00:35:41.080
+software tools to sing
+
+00:35:41.080 --> 00:35:43.080
+you mentioned Stanford being an important pillar
+
+00:35:43.080 --> 00:35:45.080
+for our science work
+
+00:35:45.080 --> 00:35:47.080
+we've built what we call bio hubs
+
+00:35:47.080 --> 00:35:49.080
+and grant challenges
+
+00:35:49.080 --> 00:35:51.080
+to do work that wouldn't be possible
+
+00:35:51.080 --> 00:35:53.080
+in a single lab or within a single discipline
+
+00:35:53.080 --> 00:35:55.080
+and our first bio hub was launched
+
+00:35:55.080 --> 00:35:57.080
+in San Francisco
+
+00:35:57.080 --> 00:35:59.080
+a collaboration between Stanford
+
+00:35:59.080 --> 00:36:01.080
+UC Berkeley and UCSF
+
+00:36:01.080 --> 00:36:03.080
+why is that amazing?
+
+00:36:03.080 --> 00:36:05.080
+implies that
+
+00:36:05.080 --> 00:36:07.080
+there will either be a ton of knowledge
+
+00:36:07.080 --> 00:36:09.080
+gleaned from this effort
+
+00:36:09.080 --> 00:36:11.080
+which I'm certain there will be and there already has been
+
+00:36:11.080 --> 00:36:13.080
+we can talk about some of those early successes
+
+00:36:13.080 --> 00:36:15.080
+be very careful with the words
+
+00:36:15.080 --> 00:36:17.080
+there will be a lot of data extracted from this
+
+00:36:17.080 --> 00:36:19.080
+I don't know how much knowledge will be extracted
+
+00:36:19.080 --> 00:36:21.080
+from this Huberman moment
+
+00:36:21.080 --> 00:36:23.080
+but it also sort of implies that if we can understand
+
+00:36:23.080 --> 00:36:25.080
+some basic operations
+
+00:36:25.080 --> 00:36:27.080
+of diseases and cells
+
+00:36:27.080 --> 00:36:29.080
+that transcend autism
+
+00:36:29.080 --> 00:36:31.080
+Huntington's Parkinson's cancer
+
+00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:33.080
+and any other disease that
+
+00:36:33.080 --> 00:36:35.080
+perhaps there are some core principles
+
+00:36:35.080 --> 00:36:37.080
+that would make the big mission
+
+00:36:37.080 --> 00:36:39.080
+a real reality so to speak
+
+00:36:39.080 --> 00:36:41.080
+what I'm basically saying is
+
+00:36:41.080 --> 00:36:43.080
+how are you attacking this?
+
+00:36:43.080 --> 00:36:45.080
+because that the cell sits at the center
+
+00:36:45.080 --> 00:36:47.080
+of all discussion about disease
+
+00:36:47.080 --> 00:36:49.080
+given that our body is made up of cells
+
+00:36:49.080 --> 00:36:51.080
+and different types of cells
+
+00:36:51.080 --> 00:36:53.080
+so maybe you could just
+
+00:36:53.080 --> 00:36:55.080
+illuminate for us a little bit of what
+
+00:36:55.080 --> 00:36:57.080
+the cell is
+
+00:36:57.080 --> 00:36:59.080
+in your mind as it relates to disease
+
+00:36:59.080 --> 00:37:01.080
+and how one goes about understanding disease
+
+00:37:01.080 --> 00:37:03.080
+in the context of cells
+
+00:37:03.080 --> 00:37:05.080
+because ultimately that's what we're made up of
+
+00:37:05.080 --> 00:37:07.080
+yeah well let's get to the cell thing in a moment
+
+00:37:07.080 --> 00:37:09.080
+but just even take a step back from that
+
+00:37:09.080 --> 00:37:11.080
+we don't think that
+
+00:37:11.080 --> 00:37:13.080
+I want you to hear
+
+00:37:13.080 --> 00:37:15.080
+this is Huberman asking them
+
+00:37:15.080 --> 00:37:17.080
+a very hard question
+
+00:37:17.080 --> 00:37:19.080
+about the nuts and bolts
+
+00:37:19.080 --> 00:37:21.080
+of how the hell they're going to do this
+
+00:37:21.080 --> 00:37:23.080
+so the proposal is
+
+00:37:23.080 --> 00:37:25.080
+that they're going to study and catalog
+
+00:37:25.080 --> 00:37:27.080
+all the cells of the human body
+
+00:37:27.080 --> 00:37:29.080
+and catalog how all of the cells
+
+00:37:29.080 --> 00:37:31.080
+in the human body work
+
+00:37:31.080 --> 00:37:33.080
+that's one of the things he said
+
+00:37:33.080 --> 00:37:35.080
+in the beginning
+
+00:37:35.080 --> 00:37:37.080
+so of course he's formulated a question
+
+00:37:37.080 --> 00:37:39.080
+that has to do with that very description
+
+00:37:39.080 --> 00:37:41.080
+of how they plan to build this
+
+00:37:41.080 --> 00:37:43.080
+this ladder of observation
+
+00:37:43.080 --> 00:37:45.080
+which will ultimately lead to understanding
+
+00:37:47.080 --> 00:37:49.080
+and this mythology is very
+
+00:37:49.080 --> 00:37:51.080
+straightforward so
+
+00:37:51.080 --> 00:37:53.080
+as the smart guy that he is
+
+00:37:53.080 --> 00:37:55.080
+he just asks them a very straightforward question
+
+00:37:55.080 --> 00:37:57.080
+about it in terms of how are you
+
+00:37:57.080 --> 00:37:59.080
+going to go about doing it and
+
+00:37:59.080 --> 00:38:01.080
+Zuck says well let's
+
+00:38:01.080 --> 00:38:03.080
+in his very nice little android voice
+
+00:38:03.080 --> 00:38:05.080
+let's go back to that subject
+
+00:38:05.080 --> 00:38:07.080
+in just a minute but first let's address something
+
+00:38:07.080 --> 00:38:09.080
+else that I really like a lot
+
+00:38:09.080 --> 00:38:11.080
+hmm
+
+00:38:11.080 --> 00:38:13.080
+belief is that the cell
+
+00:38:13.080 --> 00:38:15.080
+sits at the center of all discussion about
+
+00:38:15.080 --> 00:38:17.080
+disease given that our body is made up of
+
+00:38:17.080 --> 00:38:19.080
+cells and different types of cells so maybe
+
+00:38:19.080 --> 00:38:20.080
+could just
+
+00:38:20.080 --> 00:38:22.080
+illuminate for us a little bit of what
+
+00:38:22.080 --> 00:38:24.080
+the cell is
+
+00:38:24.080 --> 00:38:26.080
+in your mind as it relates to disease
+
+00:38:26.080 --> 00:38:28.080
+and how one goes about understanding
+
+00:38:28.080 --> 00:38:30.080
+disease in the context of cells because ultimately
+
+00:38:30.080 --> 00:38:31.080
+that's what we're made up of.
+
+00:38:31.080 --> 00:38:33.080
+Yeah well let's get to the cell thing
+
+00:38:33.080 --> 00:38:35.080
+in a moment but just even taking a step back from that
+
+00:38:35.080 --> 00:38:37.080
+you know we don't think that it sees the eye
+
+00:38:37.080 --> 00:38:39.080
+that we're going to cure prevent or manage all diseases
+
+00:38:39.080 --> 00:38:41.080
+the goal is to basically give the scientific
+
+00:38:41.080 --> 00:38:43.080
+community and scientists around the world
+
+00:38:43.080 --> 00:38:45.080
+the tools to accelerate the pace of science
+
+00:38:45.080 --> 00:38:47.080
+and we spent a lot of time when we were
+
+00:38:47.080 --> 00:38:49.080
+getting started with this looking at the history
+
+00:38:49.080 --> 00:38:51.080
+of science and trying to understand the trends
+
+00:38:51.080 --> 00:38:53.080
+and how they've played out over time and if you look
+
+00:38:53.080 --> 00:38:55.080
+over the this very long-term arc
+
+00:38:55.080 --> 00:38:57.080
+most large-scale discoveries
+
+00:38:57.080 --> 00:38:59.080
+are preceded by the invention of a new tool
+
+00:38:59.080 --> 00:39:01.080
+or a new way to see something but it's not just in biology
+
+00:39:01.080 --> 00:39:03.080
+right it's like having a telescope
+
+00:39:03.080 --> 00:39:05.080
+before a lot of discoveries in astronomy
+
+00:39:05.080 --> 00:39:08.080
+and astrophysics but similarly you know the microscope
+
+00:39:08.080 --> 00:39:10.080
+and just different ways to observe things
+
+00:39:10.080 --> 00:39:12.080
+or different platforms like the ability to do vaccines
+
+00:39:12.080 --> 00:39:15.080
+preceded the ability to kind of cure a lot of different things
+
+00:39:15.080 --> 00:39:17.080
+so this is sort of the engineering part
+
+00:39:17.080 --> 00:39:19.080
+that you were talking about about building tools.
+
+00:39:19.080 --> 00:39:21.080
+We view our goal is to
+
+00:39:21.080 --> 00:39:23.080
+try to bring together some scientific
+
+00:39:23.080 --> 00:39:25.080
+and engineering knowledge to build tools that empower
+
+00:39:25.080 --> 00:39:27.080
+the whole field and that's sort of the big arc
+
+00:39:27.080 --> 00:39:29.080
+and a lot of the things that we're focused on
+
+00:39:29.080 --> 00:39:31.080
+including the work in single cell
+
+00:39:31.080 --> 00:39:33.080
+and cell understanding which
+
+00:39:33.080 --> 00:39:35.080
+I can't let it go I'm going to go back
+
+00:39:35.080 --> 00:39:37.080
+I can't let it go he's such a jack
+
+00:39:37.080 --> 00:39:39.080
+it just drives me bananas
+
+00:39:39.080 --> 00:39:41.080
+and the fact that these people I got to be careful
+
+00:39:41.080 --> 00:39:43.080
+because I'm going to start shouting
+
+00:39:43.080 --> 00:39:45.080
+but what he said was
+
+00:39:45.080 --> 00:39:49.080
+we needed to invent vaccines before we could cure things
+
+00:39:53.080 --> 00:39:55.080
+I mean think about how much of a jackass statement
+
+00:39:55.080 --> 00:39:56.080
+that is
+
+00:39:56.080 --> 00:39:59.080
+he's equating microscopes and the discovery of cells
+
+00:39:59.080 --> 00:40:03.080
+to vaccines and the curing of diseases
+
+00:40:03.080 --> 00:40:07.080
+I just want you to ponder that
+
+00:40:07.080 --> 00:40:11.080
+how ridiculous that analogy is or that parallel is
+
+00:40:11.080 --> 00:40:15.080
+and how dumb that makes
+
+00:40:15.080 --> 00:40:19.080
+it appear that he thinks we are
+
+00:40:19.080 --> 00:40:23.080
+is Huberman going to let such a stupid statement go by?
+
+00:40:23.080 --> 00:40:27.080
+probably because that's what he's being paid to do
+
+00:40:27.080 --> 00:40:29.080
+but this is really really sad
+
+00:40:29.080 --> 00:40:33.080
+because they're not even started trying to explain
+
+00:40:33.080 --> 00:40:35.080
+this nonsense claim
+
+00:40:35.080 --> 00:40:37.080
+and they're already talking
+
+00:40:37.080 --> 00:40:39.080
+absolute gibberish
+
+00:40:39.080 --> 00:40:41.080
+I don't expect anything different from this guy
+
+00:40:41.080 --> 00:40:43.080
+he's been a snake oil salesman
+
+00:40:43.080 --> 00:40:45.080
+liar his whole life
+
+00:40:45.080 --> 00:40:47.080
+but
+
+00:40:47.080 --> 00:40:49.080
+much more important and interesting
+
+00:40:49.080 --> 00:40:51.080
+is his wife no
+
+00:40:53.080 --> 00:40:55.080
+kind of a new tool
+
+00:40:55.080 --> 00:40:56.080
+to see something
+
+00:40:56.080 --> 00:40:58.080
+it's not just in biology right it's like having a telescope
+
+00:40:58.080 --> 00:41:00.080
+you know came before a lot of
+
+00:41:00.080 --> 00:41:02.080
+discoveries in astronomy and astrophysics
+
+00:41:02.080 --> 00:41:04.080
+but similarly you know the microscope
+
+00:41:04.080 --> 00:41:06.080
+and just different ways to observe things
+
+00:41:06.080 --> 00:41:08.080
+or different platforms like the ability to do vaccines
+
+00:41:08.080 --> 00:41:11.080
+preceded the ability to kind of cure a lot of different things
+
+00:41:11.080 --> 00:41:13.080
+you hear that right?
+
+00:41:13.080 --> 00:41:16.080
+I mean if my son
+
+00:41:16.080 --> 00:41:18.080
+said that to me at the dinner table
+
+00:41:18.080 --> 00:41:20.080
+I'd probably smack him on the side of his head
+
+00:41:20.080 --> 00:41:24.080
+that's how stupid that statement is
+
+00:41:24.080 --> 00:41:26.080
+have you not been listening to anything
+
+00:41:26.080 --> 00:41:28.080
+that you've ever learned in a biology class
+
+00:41:28.080 --> 00:41:30.080
+you jackass?
+
+00:41:30.080 --> 00:41:32.080
+of course he's not
+
+00:41:32.080 --> 00:41:34.080
+this is the message he's delivering
+
+00:41:34.080 --> 00:41:38.080
+this is a weaponized podcast
+
+00:41:38.080 --> 00:41:44.080
+on a podcast with lots and lots of viewers
+
+00:41:44.080 --> 00:41:49.080
+and it is weaponized to put these stupid thoughts in people's heads
+
+00:41:49.080 --> 00:41:51.080
+it's a subliminal thing
+
+00:41:51.080 --> 00:41:53.080
+that goes right through them
+
+00:41:53.080 --> 00:41:55.080
+nobody's pausing to talk or listen to me
+
+00:41:55.080 --> 00:41:58.080
+tell them this they're already going on
+
+00:41:58.080 --> 00:42:00.080
+so this is sort of the engineering part
+
+00:42:00.080 --> 00:42:02.080
+that you were talking about about building tools
+
+00:42:02.080 --> 00:42:04.080
+we view our goal is to
+
+00:42:04.080 --> 00:42:07.080
+try to bring together some scientific and engineering knowledge
+
+00:42:07.080 --> 00:42:09.080
+to build tools that empower the whole field
+
+00:42:09.080 --> 00:42:11.080
+and that's sort of the big arc
+
+00:42:11.080 --> 00:42:13.080
+and a lot of the things that we're focused on
+
+00:42:13.080 --> 00:42:15.080
+including the work in single cell and cell understanding
+
+00:42:15.080 --> 00:42:19.080
+which you can jump in and get into that if you want
+
+00:42:19.080 --> 00:42:21.080
+but yeah I think we generally agree
+
+00:42:21.080 --> 00:42:23.080
+with the premise that if you want to understand
+
+00:42:23.080 --> 00:42:25.080
+the stuff in those principles
+
+00:42:25.080 --> 00:42:27.080
+people study organs a lot
+
+00:42:27.080 --> 00:42:29.080
+study how things present across the body
+
+00:42:29.080 --> 00:42:32.080
+but there's not a very widespread understanding
+
+00:42:32.080 --> 00:42:34.080
+of how each cell operates
+
+00:42:34.080 --> 00:42:36.080
+and this is sort of a big part of
+
+00:42:36.080 --> 00:42:38.080
+some of the initial work that we try to do on the human cell atlas
+
+00:42:38.080 --> 00:42:40.080
+and understanding what are the different cells
+
+00:42:40.080 --> 00:42:42.080
+and there's a bunch more work that we want to do to carry that forward
+
+00:42:42.080 --> 00:42:44.080
+but overall I think
+
+00:42:44.080 --> 00:42:46.080
+when we think about the next ten years here
+
+00:42:46.080 --> 00:42:48.080
+of this long arc to try to empower the community
+
+00:42:48.080 --> 00:42:51.080
+to be able to cure, prevent or manage all diseases
+
+00:42:51.080 --> 00:42:55.080
+he's talking about running public health for ten years
+
+00:42:55.080 --> 00:43:00.080
+because he's got a lot of money
+
+00:43:00.080 --> 00:43:02.080
+we think that the next ten years
+
+00:43:02.080 --> 00:43:04.080
+should really be primarily about
+
+00:43:04.080 --> 00:43:06.080
+being able to measure and observe more things in human biology
+
+00:43:06.080 --> 00:43:08.080
+there are a lot of limits today
+
+00:43:08.080 --> 00:43:10.080
+it's like you want to look at something through a microscope
+
+00:43:10.080 --> 00:43:12.080
+you can't usually see living tissues
+
+00:43:12.080 --> 00:43:14.080
+because it's hard to see through skin or things like that
+
+00:43:14.080 --> 00:43:16.080
+so there are a lot of different techniques
+
+00:43:16.080 --> 00:43:18.080
+that will help us observe different things
+
+00:43:18.080 --> 00:43:20.080
+and this is sort of where the engineering background
+
+00:43:20.080 --> 00:43:22.080
+comes in a bit because
+
+00:43:22.080 --> 00:43:24.080
+when I think about this as from the perspective of
+
+00:43:24.080 --> 00:43:26.080
+how you write code or something
+
+00:43:26.080 --> 00:43:28.080
+the idea of trying to debug or fix a code base
+
+00:43:28.080 --> 00:43:30.080
+but not be able to step through the code line by line
+
+00:43:30.080 --> 00:43:32.080
+it's not going to happen
+
+00:43:32.080 --> 00:43:34.080
+at the beginning of any big project that we do
+
+00:43:34.080 --> 00:43:36.080
+that meta we like to spend a bunch of the time up front
+
+00:43:36.080 --> 00:43:38.080
+just trying to instrument things and understand
+
+00:43:38.080 --> 00:43:40.080
+what are we going to look at and how are we going to measure things
+
+00:43:40.080 --> 00:43:42.080
+so we know we're making progress and know what to optimize
+
+00:43:42.080 --> 00:43:44.080
+wait what you're building something for meta
+
+00:43:44.080 --> 00:43:46.080
+and you want to know how you're going to measure things
+
+00:43:46.080 --> 00:43:48.080
+interesting
+
+00:43:48.080 --> 00:43:50.080
+this is such a long-term journey
+
+00:43:50.080 --> 00:43:52.080
+and we think that it actually makes sense to take the next 10 years
+
+00:43:52.080 --> 00:43:56.080
+to build those kind of tools for biology and understanding
+
+00:43:56.080 --> 00:43:58.080
+just how the human body works in action
+
+00:43:58.080 --> 00:44:00.080
+and a big part of that is cells
+
+00:44:00.080 --> 00:44:02.080
+do you want to jump in and talk or talk about some of the efforts?
+
+00:44:02.080 --> 00:44:04.080
+Could I interrupt briefly and just ask about
+
+00:44:04.080 --> 00:44:08.080
+the different interventions so to speak
+
+00:44:08.080 --> 00:44:10.080
+that CZI is in a unique position
+
+00:44:10.080 --> 00:44:13.080
+to bring to the quest to cure all diseases
+
+00:44:13.080 --> 00:44:15.080
+I can think of
+
+00:44:15.080 --> 00:44:17.080
+I know as a scientist that money is necessary
+
+00:44:17.080 --> 00:44:19.080
+but not sufficient
+
+00:44:19.080 --> 00:44:21.080
+when you have money you can hire more people
+
+00:44:21.080 --> 00:44:23.080
+you can try different things so that's critical
+
+00:44:23.080 --> 00:44:25.080
+but a lot of philanthropy includes money
+
+00:44:25.080 --> 00:44:27.080
+the other component is
+
+00:44:27.080 --> 00:44:29.080
+you want to be able to see things as you pointed out
+
+00:44:29.080 --> 00:44:31.080
+so you want to know that normal disease process
+
+00:44:31.080 --> 00:44:33.080
+what is a healthy cell?
+
+00:44:33.080 --> 00:44:35.080
+what's a diseased cell?
+
+00:44:35.080 --> 00:44:37.080
+cells constantly being bombarded with challenges and then repairing those
+
+00:44:37.080 --> 00:44:39.080
+and then what we call cancer is just kind of run away
+
+00:44:39.080 --> 00:44:41.080
+train of those challenges not being met by the cell itself
+
+00:44:41.080 --> 00:44:43.080
+like that so better imaging tools
+
+00:44:43.080 --> 00:44:45.080
+and then it sounds like there's not just a hardware component
+
+00:44:45.080 --> 00:44:47.080
+but a software component
+
+00:44:47.080 --> 00:44:49.080
+this is where AI comes in
+
+00:44:49.080 --> 00:44:51.080
+so maybe we can break this up into three different avenues
+
+00:44:51.080 --> 00:44:53.080
+one is understanding disease processes
+
+00:44:53.080 --> 00:44:55.080
+and healthy processes will lump those together
+
+00:44:55.080 --> 00:44:57.080
+then there's hardware so microscopes, lenses
+
+00:44:57.080 --> 00:44:59.080
+digital deconvolution
+
+00:44:59.080 --> 00:45:01.080
+ways of seeing things in bolder relief
+
+00:45:01.080 --> 00:45:03.080
+and more precision
+
+00:45:03.080 --> 00:45:05.080
+and then there's how to manage all the data
+
+00:45:05.080 --> 00:45:07.080
+and then I love the idea that
+
+00:45:07.080 --> 00:45:09.080
+maybe AI could do what human brains can't do alone
+
+00:45:09.080 --> 00:45:11.080
+and manage understanding of the data
+
+00:45:11.080 --> 00:45:13.080
+because it's one thing to organize data
+
+00:45:13.080 --> 00:45:15.080
+it's another to say this as you point out on the analogy with code
+
+00:45:15.080 --> 00:45:17.080
+this particular gene and that particular gene
+
+00:45:17.080 --> 00:45:19.080
+are potentially interesting
+
+00:45:19.080 --> 00:45:21.080
+whereas a human being would never make that potential connection
+
+00:45:21.080 --> 00:45:23.080
+so you know the tools that's easy
+
+00:45:23.080 --> 00:45:25.080
+I can bring to the table
+
+00:45:25.080 --> 00:45:27.080
+we fund science like you're talking about
+
+00:45:27.080 --> 00:45:29.080
+and we try to
+
+00:45:29.080 --> 00:45:31.080
+there's lots of ways to fund science
+
+00:45:31.080 --> 00:45:33.080
+and just to be clear what we fund
+
+00:45:33.080 --> 00:45:35.080
+is a tiny fraction of what the NIH funds for instance
+
+00:45:35.080 --> 00:45:37.080
+you guys have been generous enough
+
+00:45:37.080 --> 00:45:39.080
+that it definitely holds weight
+
+00:45:39.080 --> 00:45:41.080
+to NIH's contribution
+
+00:45:41.080 --> 00:45:43.080
+but I think
+
+00:45:43.080 --> 00:45:45.080
+every funder has its own role in the ecosystem
+
+00:45:45.080 --> 00:45:47.080
+and for us it's really how do we incentivize
+
+00:45:47.080 --> 00:45:49.080
+new points of view, how do we incentivize collaboration
+
+00:45:49.080 --> 00:45:51.080
+how do we incentivize open science
+
+00:45:51.080 --> 00:45:53.080
+and so a lot of our grants
+
+00:45:53.080 --> 00:45:55.080
+include inviting people to look
+
+00:45:55.080 --> 00:45:57.080
+in look at different fields
+
+00:45:57.080 --> 00:45:59.080
+our first neuroscience RFA
+
+00:45:59.080 --> 00:46:01.080
+was aimed towards incentivizing
+
+00:46:01.080 --> 00:46:03.080
+people from different backgrounds
+
+00:46:03.080 --> 00:46:05.080
+immunologists, microbiologists
+
+00:46:05.080 --> 00:46:07.080
+and look at how our nervous system works
+
+00:46:07.080 --> 00:46:09.080
+and how to keep it healthy
+
+00:46:09.080 --> 00:46:11.080
+or we ask that our grantees
+
+00:46:11.080 --> 00:46:13.080
+participate in the pre-print movement
+
+00:46:13.080 --> 00:46:15.080
+to accelerate the rate of sharing knowledge
+
+00:46:15.080 --> 00:46:17.080
+and actually others being able to build upon science
+
+00:46:17.080 --> 00:46:19.080
+so that's the funding that we do
+
+00:46:19.080 --> 00:46:21.080
+in terms of building
+
+00:46:21.080 --> 00:46:23.080
+we build software
+
+00:46:23.080 --> 00:46:25.080
+so they said pre-print servers
+
+00:46:25.080 --> 00:46:27.080
+I would argue that pre-print servers came out
+
+00:46:27.080 --> 00:46:31.080
+very unfortunately right at the beginning of the pandemic
+
+00:46:31.080 --> 00:46:33.080
+or right before it
+
+00:46:33.080 --> 00:46:35.080
+and it enabled
+
+00:46:35.080 --> 00:46:37.080
+an opportunity
+
+00:46:37.080 --> 00:46:39.080
+for misinformation
+
+00:46:39.080 --> 00:46:41.080
+to occur at the systemic level
+
+00:46:41.080 --> 00:46:45.080
+so for fake papers to come out
+
+00:46:45.080 --> 00:46:49.080
+for papers to be
+
+00:46:49.080 --> 00:46:51.080
+publicized through censorship
+
+00:46:51.080 --> 00:46:53.080
+or cancellation
+
+00:46:53.080 --> 00:46:55.080
+and ideas to be perpetuated
+
+00:46:55.080 --> 00:46:57.080
+through these same mechanisms
+
+00:46:57.080 --> 00:47:01.080
+and that was unfortunately really bad
+
+00:47:01.080 --> 00:47:03.080
+during the first half of the pandemic
+
+00:47:03.080 --> 00:47:05.080
+so they're directly responsible
+
+00:47:05.080 --> 00:47:07.080
+for that
+
+00:47:07.080 --> 00:47:09.080
+and you could even argue that they may have been
+
+00:47:09.080 --> 00:47:11.080
+tasked with that
+
+00:47:11.080 --> 00:47:13.080
+as part of their role
+
+00:47:13.080 --> 00:47:15.080
+in the pandemic
+
+00:47:15.080 --> 00:47:17.080
+and hardware, like you mentioned
+
+00:47:17.080 --> 00:47:19.080
+we put together teams that
+
+00:47:19.080 --> 00:47:21.080
+can build tools that are more
+
+00:47:21.080 --> 00:47:23.080
+durable and scalable
+
+00:47:23.080 --> 00:47:25.080
+than someone in a single lab might be incentivized
+
+00:47:25.080 --> 00:47:27.080
+so we put together teams
+
+00:47:27.080 --> 00:47:29.080
+that can build tools that are
+
+00:47:29.080 --> 00:47:31.080
+more durable and what?
+
+00:47:31.080 --> 00:47:33.080
+I mean these are just all buzzwords
+
+00:47:33.080 --> 00:47:35.080
+they're words that don't mean anything
+
+00:47:35.080 --> 00:47:37.080
+in the context of
+
+00:47:37.080 --> 00:47:39.080
+how microscopes are
+
+00:47:39.080 --> 00:47:41.080
+too photon scanning technology
+
+00:47:41.080 --> 00:47:45.080
+or nano dies or anything like that
+
+00:47:45.080 --> 00:47:47.080
+she's just
+
+00:47:47.080 --> 00:47:49.080
+yappy yappin
+
+00:47:49.080 --> 00:47:52.080
+and again who is this person?
+
+00:47:52.080 --> 00:47:53.080
+just a doctor?
+
+00:47:53.080 --> 00:47:55.080
+married to a rich guy?
+
+00:47:55.080 --> 00:47:57.080
+I mean this might as well be
+
+00:47:57.080 --> 00:48:00.080
+the woman of Elon Musk
+
+00:48:00.080 --> 00:48:03.080
+or the wife of Bill Gates
+
+00:48:03.080 --> 00:48:05.080
+like really why do I need to listen
+
+00:48:05.080 --> 00:48:07.080
+to her about science?
+
+00:48:07.080 --> 00:48:09.080
+what makes her an authority
+
+00:48:09.080 --> 00:48:11.080
+other than the fact that she's
+
+00:48:11.080 --> 00:48:13.080
+married to a rich guy?
+
+00:48:13.080 --> 00:48:15.080
+there's lots of doctors in the world
+
+00:48:15.080 --> 00:48:17.080
+that have given their entire life
+
+00:48:17.080 --> 00:48:19.080
+to public health to
+
+00:48:19.080 --> 00:48:21.080
+solving a problem
+
+00:48:21.080 --> 00:48:23.080
+or curing a disease
+
+00:48:23.080 --> 00:48:25.080
+this is not that person
+
+00:48:26.080 --> 00:48:28.080
+and yet somehow we are being made
+
+00:48:28.080 --> 00:48:29.080
+to believe that this is a person
+
+00:48:29.080 --> 00:48:30.080
+we should look up to
+
+00:48:30.080 --> 00:48:32.080
+look for leadership
+
+00:48:35.080 --> 00:48:37.080
+we are under attack ladies and gentlemen
+
+00:48:40.080 --> 00:48:42.080
+there's a ton of great ideas
+
+00:48:42.080 --> 00:48:44.080
+and nowadays most scientists can
+
+00:48:44.080 --> 00:48:45.080
+tinker and build something
+
+00:48:45.080 --> 00:48:46.080
+useful for their lab
+
+00:48:46.080 --> 00:48:48.080
+but it's really hard for them
+
+00:48:48.080 --> 00:48:49.080
+to be able to share
+
+00:48:49.080 --> 00:48:51.080
+that tool sometimes beyond their own laptop
+
+00:48:51.080 --> 00:48:53.080
+or forget the next lab
+
+00:48:53.080 --> 00:48:55.080
+over or across the globe
+
+00:48:55.080 --> 00:48:56.080
+so we partner with scientists
+
+00:48:56.080 --> 00:48:58.080
+to see what is useful
+
+00:48:58.080 --> 00:48:59.080
+what kinds of tools
+
+00:48:59.080 --> 00:49:01.080
+in imaging Nepari
+
+00:49:01.080 --> 00:49:03.080
+it's a useful image annotation tool
+
+00:49:03.080 --> 00:49:06.080
+that is born from an open source community
+
+00:49:06.080 --> 00:49:08.080
+and how can we contribute to that?
+
+00:49:08.080 --> 00:49:10.080
+or a cell by gene
+
+00:49:10.080 --> 00:49:12.080
+which works on single cell data sets
+
+00:49:12.080 --> 00:49:14.080
+and how can we build a useful tool
+
+00:49:14.080 --> 00:49:16.080
+so that scientists can share data sets
+
+00:49:16.080 --> 00:49:17.080
+analyze their own
+
+00:49:17.080 --> 00:49:18.080
+and contribute to a larger
+
+00:49:18.080 --> 00:49:20.080
+corpus of information
+
+00:49:20.080 --> 00:49:22.080
+so we have software teams
+
+00:49:22.080 --> 00:49:24.080
+we are building, collaborating with scientists
+
+00:49:24.080 --> 00:49:26.080
+to make sure that we are building
+
+00:49:26.080 --> 00:49:28.080
+easy to use durable, translatable tools
+
+00:49:28.080 --> 00:49:30.080
+across the scientific community
+
+00:49:30.080 --> 00:49:32.080
+you got to refresh if you don't have sound
+
+00:49:32.080 --> 00:49:33.080
+we also have institutes
+
+00:49:33.080 --> 00:49:35.080
+this is where the imaging work comes in
+
+00:49:35.080 --> 00:49:37.080
+where we are proud owners
+
+00:49:37.080 --> 00:49:39.080
+of electron microscope right now
+
+00:49:39.080 --> 00:49:41.080
+it's going to be installed
+
+00:49:41.080 --> 00:49:43.080
+at our imaging institute
+
+00:49:43.080 --> 00:49:44.080
+and that will really contribute
+
+00:49:44.080 --> 00:49:46.080
+to a way where we can see work differently
+
+00:49:46.080 --> 00:49:48.080
+but the more hardware
+
+00:49:48.080 --> 00:49:49.080
+does need to be developed
+
+00:49:49.080 --> 00:49:50.080
+we are partnering
+
+00:49:50.080 --> 00:49:52.080
+with fantastic scientists
+
+00:49:52.080 --> 00:49:54.080
+in the biohub network
+
+00:49:54.080 --> 00:49:56.080
+to build a mini phase plate
+
+00:49:56.080 --> 00:49:58.080
+to increase, to align the electrons
+
+00:49:58.080 --> 00:50:01.080
+through these, through the electron microscope
+
+00:50:01.080 --> 00:50:03.080
+to be able to increase the resolution
+
+00:50:03.080 --> 00:50:05.080
+so we can see in sharper detail
+
+00:50:05.080 --> 00:50:07.080
+so there's a lot of innovative work
+
+00:50:07.080 --> 00:50:09.080
+within the network that's happening
+
+00:50:09.080 --> 00:50:12.080
+as if that kind of innovation
+
+00:50:12.080 --> 00:50:14.080
+is unique to their little pile of money
+
+00:50:14.080 --> 00:50:17.080
+she sounds like an ignorant little brat
+
+00:50:17.080 --> 00:50:19.080
+ooh we have an electron microscope
+
+00:50:19.080 --> 00:50:21.080
+oh and we're making a phase plate
+
+00:50:21.080 --> 00:50:23.080
+so it'll focus the electrons better
+
+00:50:23.080 --> 00:50:24.080
+we get higher results
+
+00:50:24.080 --> 00:50:26.080
+like she's some kind of polymath
+
+00:50:26.080 --> 00:50:29.080
+physicist, chemist, electron microscopist
+
+00:50:31.080 --> 00:50:33.080
+we are being bamboozled
+
+00:50:33.080 --> 00:50:34.080
+actively bamboozled
+
+00:50:34.080 --> 00:50:37.080
+by rich people who prepare big speeches
+
+00:50:37.080 --> 00:50:39.080
+to talk big tough things
+
+00:50:41.080 --> 00:50:43.080
+this is a scam
+
+00:50:43.080 --> 00:50:45.080
+we are being actively
+
+00:50:45.080 --> 00:50:47.080
+actively
+
+00:50:47.080 --> 00:50:49.080
+controlled, demolished
+
+00:50:49.080 --> 00:50:51.080
+our whole country is being destroyed
+
+00:50:51.080 --> 00:50:53.080
+by these people
+
+00:50:53.080 --> 00:50:55.080
+by his app, by her money
+
+00:50:55.080 --> 00:50:58.080
+and by this guy's complacency
+
+00:50:58.080 --> 00:51:01.080
+this is one of those academic biologists
+
+00:51:01.080 --> 00:51:03.080
+right here who should
+
+00:51:03.080 --> 00:51:05.080
+damn well known better
+
+00:51:05.080 --> 00:51:07.080
+that transfection is not immunization
+
+00:51:07.080 --> 00:51:09.080
+and although I respect him
+
+00:51:09.080 --> 00:51:11.080
+as a neurobiologist
+
+00:51:11.080 --> 00:51:13.080
+if we came to this discussion
+
+00:51:13.080 --> 00:51:15.080
+I would say that to his face in a heartbeat
+
+00:51:15.080 --> 00:51:17.080
+and I guarantee you
+
+00:51:17.080 --> 00:51:19.080
+that even with a whiteboard
+
+00:51:19.080 --> 00:51:21.080
+between us he would not win
+
+00:51:21.080 --> 00:51:23.080
+that conversation
+
+00:51:23.080 --> 00:51:25.080
+he probably knows more about
+
+00:51:25.080 --> 00:51:27.080
+the visual system than me
+
+00:51:27.080 --> 00:51:28.080
+I have no doubt
+
+00:51:28.080 --> 00:51:29.080
+he probably knows more about
+
+00:51:29.080 --> 00:51:31.080
+most of the brain than I do
+
+00:51:31.080 --> 00:51:33.080
+but immunology I got him in spades
+
+00:51:33.080 --> 00:51:37.080
+and these people are posers
+
+00:51:37.080 --> 00:51:39.080
+institutes have grand challenges
+
+00:51:39.080 --> 00:51:41.080
+that they're working on
+
+00:51:41.080 --> 00:51:43.080
+back to your question about cells
+
+00:51:43.080 --> 00:51:45.080
+cells are just the smallest
+
+00:51:45.080 --> 00:51:47.080
+unit that are alive
+
+00:51:47.080 --> 00:51:49.080
+and are your body
+
+00:51:49.080 --> 00:51:51.080
+all of our bodies have many many many cells
+
+00:51:51.080 --> 00:51:53.080
+there's some estimate of like
+
+00:51:53.080 --> 00:51:55.080
+37 trillion cells
+
+00:51:55.080 --> 00:51:57.080
+different cells in your body
+
+00:51:57.080 --> 00:51:59.080
+and what are they all doing
+
+00:51:59.080 --> 00:52:01.080
+and what do they look like when they're healthy
+
+00:52:01.080 --> 00:52:03.080
+what do they look like when you're sick
+
+00:52:03.080 --> 00:52:05.080
+and where we're at right now
+
+00:52:05.080 --> 00:52:07.080
+our understanding of cells
+
+00:52:07.080 --> 00:52:09.080
+and what happens when you get sick
+
+00:52:09.080 --> 00:52:11.080
+basically we have we've gotten pretty good
+
+00:52:11.080 --> 00:52:13.080
+at from the human genome project
+
+00:52:13.080 --> 00:52:15.080
+looking at how different mutations
+
+00:52:15.080 --> 00:52:17.080
+in your genetic code lead for you
+
+00:52:17.080 --> 00:52:19.080
+to be more susceptible to get sick
+
+00:52:19.080 --> 00:52:21.080
+or directly cause you to get sick
+
+00:52:21.080 --> 00:52:23.080
+so we go from a mutation in your DNA
+
+00:52:23.080 --> 00:52:25.080
+to wow you now have Huntington's disease
+
+00:52:25.080 --> 00:52:27.080
+for instance
+
+00:52:27.080 --> 00:52:29.080
+and there's a lot that happens in the middle
+
+00:52:29.080 --> 00:52:31.080
+and that's one of the questions
+
+00:52:31.080 --> 00:52:33.080
+that we're going after at CZI
+
+00:52:33.080 --> 00:52:35.080
+is what actually happens
+
+00:52:35.080 --> 00:52:37.080
+so an analogy that I like to use to share
+
+00:52:37.080 --> 00:52:39.080
+right now say we have a recipe for a cake
+
+00:52:39.080 --> 00:52:41.080
+we know there's a typo in the recipe
+
+00:52:41.080 --> 00:52:43.080
+and then the cake is awful
+
+00:52:43.080 --> 00:52:45.080
+that's all we know
+
+00:52:45.080 --> 00:52:47.080
+we don't know how the chef interprets the typo
+
+00:52:47.080 --> 00:52:49.080
+we don't know what happens in the oven
+
+00:52:49.080 --> 00:52:51.080
+and we don't actually know sort of how it's
+
+00:52:51.080 --> 00:52:53.080
+exactly connected to how the cake didn't turn out
+
+00:52:53.080 --> 00:52:55.080
+how you had expected
+
+00:52:55.080 --> 00:52:57.080
+a lot of that is unknown
+
+00:52:57.080 --> 00:52:59.080
+but we can actually systematically
+
+00:52:59.080 --> 00:53:01.080
+try to break this down
+
+00:53:01.080 --> 00:53:03.080
+so you want me to kick the shit out of that analogy
+
+00:53:03.080 --> 00:53:05.080
+I'm sorry I'm swearing
+
+00:53:05.080 --> 00:53:07.080
+but I'm getting really annoyed
+
+00:53:07.080 --> 00:53:09.080
+so she says that
+
+00:53:09.080 --> 00:53:11.080
+they have a recipe with a typo in it
+
+00:53:11.080 --> 00:53:13.080
+and the cake doesn't turn out right
+
+00:53:13.080 --> 00:53:15.080
+so they don't know really why that happens
+
+00:53:15.080 --> 00:53:17.080
+but they got to figure it out
+
+00:53:17.080 --> 00:53:25.080
+we don't know how the chef interprets the error
+
+00:53:25.080 --> 00:53:33.080
+it's very very frustrating
+
+00:53:33.080 --> 00:53:35.080
+ladies and gentlemen because again
+
+00:53:35.080 --> 00:53:37.080
+we have somebody making
+
+00:53:37.080 --> 00:53:41.080
+the pattern integrity of a human
+
+00:53:41.080 --> 00:53:45.080
+into something as dumb simple
+
+00:53:45.080 --> 00:53:47.080
+as baking a cake
+
+00:53:47.080 --> 00:53:51.080
+so we're not even talking about the production of a protein
+
+00:53:51.080 --> 00:53:53.080
+right
+
+00:53:53.080 --> 00:53:57.080
+we're talking about a diseased
+
+00:53:57.080 --> 00:54:01.080
+human and some genetic correlations
+
+00:54:01.080 --> 00:54:05.080
+silent mutations lead to disease
+
+00:54:05.080 --> 00:54:09.080
+we don't understand how they do that
+
+00:54:09.080 --> 00:54:13.080
+some mutations in proteins don't cause a detectable disease
+
+00:54:13.080 --> 00:54:15.080
+we don't know why
+
+00:54:15.080 --> 00:54:19.080
+and so we start with these dumb simple
+
+00:54:19.080 --> 00:54:21.080
+analogies because that's how you write a grant
+
+00:54:21.080 --> 00:54:23.080
+that's how
+
+00:54:23.080 --> 00:54:25.080
+how Huberman is used to thinking
+
+00:54:25.080 --> 00:54:27.080
+but that only gets you so far
+
+00:54:27.080 --> 00:54:29.080
+and it has only gotten us so far
+
+00:54:29.080 --> 00:54:31.080
+for a very very long time
+
+00:54:31.080 --> 00:54:33.080
+and in fact why we are hitting the wall
+
+00:54:33.080 --> 00:54:37.080
+is because those kinds of dumb simple
+
+00:54:37.080 --> 00:54:41.080
+analogies and
+
+00:54:41.080 --> 00:54:43.080
+extracting experimental questions
+
+00:54:43.080 --> 00:54:47.080
+based on those dumb simple analogies
+
+00:54:47.080 --> 00:54:49.080
+will never penetrate
+
+00:54:49.080 --> 00:54:51.080
+the actual complexity of life
+
+00:54:51.080 --> 00:54:53.080
+that you're trying to penetrate
+
+00:54:53.080 --> 00:54:57.080
+but that's not the point here
+
+00:54:57.080 --> 00:54:59.080
+the point is to bamboozle people
+
+00:54:59.080 --> 00:55:01.080
+into believing that this is an
+
+00:55:01.080 --> 00:55:03.080
+inevitable
+
+00:55:03.080 --> 00:55:05.080
+over the next hill all of these
+
+00:55:05.080 --> 00:55:07.080
+things are going to be known
+
+00:55:07.080 --> 00:55:09.080
+we barely know how any of these cells
+
+00:55:09.080 --> 00:55:11.080
+in the body work but you know we can do it
+
+00:55:11.080 --> 00:55:15.080
+we just have to keep driving over that hill
+
+00:55:17.080 --> 00:55:19.080
+and one segment of that journey
+
+00:55:19.080 --> 00:55:21.080
+that we're looking at is how that mutation
+
+00:55:21.080 --> 00:55:23.080
+gets translated and acted upon in
+
+00:55:23.080 --> 00:55:25.080
+your cells and all of your cells
+
+00:55:25.080 --> 00:55:27.080
+have what's called mRNA
+
+00:55:27.080 --> 00:55:29.080
+mRNA are the actual instructions
+
+00:55:29.080 --> 00:55:31.080
+that are taken from the DNA
+
+00:55:31.080 --> 00:55:33.080
+and what our work in single cell is
+
+00:55:33.080 --> 00:55:35.080
+looking at how
+
+00:55:35.080 --> 00:55:37.080
+every cell in your body is actually
+
+00:55:37.080 --> 00:55:39.080
+interpreting your DNA slightly differently
+
+00:55:39.080 --> 00:55:41.080
+and what happens
+
+00:55:41.080 --> 00:55:43.080
+when healthy cells are interpreting the DNA instructions
+
+00:55:43.080 --> 00:55:45.080
+and when sick cells are interpreting those directions
+
+00:55:45.080 --> 00:55:47.080
+basically what she's talking about
+
+00:55:47.080 --> 00:55:49.080
+is trying to kind of describe
+
+00:55:49.080 --> 00:55:51.080
+the complexity of life
+
+00:55:51.080 --> 00:55:53.080
+to the extent to which she can claim
+
+00:55:53.080 --> 00:55:55.080
+she wants to investigate
+
+00:55:57.080 --> 00:55:59.080
+it would be a bit like the guy that Mark covered
+
+00:55:59.080 --> 00:56:01.080
+a few weeks ago that did all the ribosome work
+
+00:56:01.080 --> 00:56:03.080
+for him to
+
+00:56:03.080 --> 00:56:05.080
+really beautifully explain how
+
+00:56:05.080 --> 00:56:07.080
+complicated ribosomes are and how
+
+00:56:07.080 --> 00:56:09.080
+little we understand them and then saying
+
+00:56:09.080 --> 00:56:11.080
+that's why he dedicated his life to that work
+
+00:56:11.080 --> 00:56:13.080
+did he solve it?
+
+00:56:13.080 --> 00:56:15.080
+no did he say he was going to solve it?
+
+00:56:15.080 --> 00:56:17.080
+no
+
+00:56:17.080 --> 00:56:19.080
+he picked little pieces of it and tried to push
+
+00:56:19.080 --> 00:56:21.080
+the ball forward for his entire life
+
+00:56:21.080 --> 00:56:23.080
+got a Nobel Prize and still doesn't know how
+
+00:56:23.080 --> 00:56:25.080
+the frickin hell a ribosome works
+
+00:56:25.080 --> 00:56:27.080
+or how proteins fold or anything like that
+
+00:56:29.080 --> 00:56:31.080
+and so she's doing an even dumber
+
+00:56:31.080 --> 00:56:33.080
+simple cartoon
+
+00:56:33.080 --> 00:56:35.080
+to try and show you that
+
+00:56:35.080 --> 00:56:37.080
+she can appreciate the complexity of life
+
+00:56:37.080 --> 00:56:39.080
+by
+
+00:56:39.080 --> 00:56:41.080
+inadequately articulating it
+
+00:56:41.080 --> 00:56:43.080
+and then just going to pivot to claiming
+
+00:56:43.080 --> 00:56:45.080
+that that
+
+00:56:45.080 --> 00:56:47.080
+inadequate articulation of what a pattern integrity
+
+00:56:47.080 --> 00:56:49.080
+is in a human being
+
+00:56:49.080 --> 00:56:51.080
+is licensed for her to say
+
+00:56:51.080 --> 00:56:53.080
+that she's going to give money to people
+
+00:56:53.080 --> 00:56:55.080
+so that they can figure out how it works
+
+00:56:55.080 --> 00:56:57.080
+that we're going to collect enough data
+
+00:56:57.080 --> 00:56:59.080
+so we can figure out how it works
+
+00:57:01.080 --> 00:57:03.080
+I'm just going to tell you right now
+
+00:57:03.080 --> 00:57:05.080
+these people are liars
+
+00:57:05.080 --> 00:57:07.080
+it's not even bullshitting
+
+00:57:07.080 --> 00:57:09.080
+it's just lying
+
+00:57:09.080 --> 00:57:11.080
+you know you're lying
+
+00:57:11.080 --> 00:57:13.080
+none of they don't believe anything they're saying
+
+00:57:13.080 --> 00:57:15.080
+and if they do they haven't really
+
+00:57:15.080 --> 00:57:17.080
+thought about it very long
+
+00:57:17.080 --> 00:57:19.080
+they're not very smart people
+
+00:57:19.080 --> 00:57:21.080
+and this
+
+00:57:23.080 --> 00:57:25.080
+this fake enthusiasm for the inevitability
+
+00:57:25.080 --> 00:57:27.080
+of transhumanism
+
+00:57:27.080 --> 00:57:29.080
+being able to collect enough data to understand
+
+00:57:29.080 --> 00:57:31.080
+and then remodel
+
+00:57:31.080 --> 00:57:33.080
+the human genome
+
+00:57:33.080 --> 00:57:35.080
+it's just a lack of reverence
+
+00:57:35.080 --> 00:57:39.080
+for the sacred that deserves punishment
+
+00:57:41.080 --> 00:57:43.080
+I really wish that these
+
+00:57:43.080 --> 00:57:45.080
+guys were on my basketball team or something
+
+00:57:45.080 --> 00:57:47.080
+and I could just make them go to the baseline
+
+00:57:47.080 --> 00:57:49.080
+and start running
+
+00:57:49.080 --> 00:57:51.080
+because it's just dumb
+
+00:57:51.080 --> 00:57:53.080
+and that is a ton of data
+
+00:57:53.080 --> 00:57:55.080
+I just told you there's 37 trillion cells
+
+00:57:55.080 --> 00:57:57.080
+there's different large
+
+00:57:57.080 --> 00:57:59.080
+sets of mRNA in each cell
+
+00:57:59.080 --> 00:58:01.080
+but the work that we've been funding is
+
+00:58:01.080 --> 00:58:03.080
+looking at how first of all
+
+00:58:03.080 --> 00:58:05.080
+gathering that information
+
+00:58:05.080 --> 00:58:07.080
+we've been incredibly lucky
+
+00:58:07.080 --> 00:58:09.080
+to be part of a very fast-moving
+
+00:58:09.080 --> 00:58:11.080
+field where
+
+00:58:11.080 --> 00:58:13.080
+we've gone from in 2017
+
+00:58:13.080 --> 00:58:15.080
+funding some methods work
+
+00:58:15.080 --> 00:58:17.080
+to now having really not complete
+
+00:58:17.080 --> 00:58:19.080
+but nearly complete atlases
+
+00:58:19.080 --> 00:58:21.080
+of how the human body works
+
+00:58:21.080 --> 00:58:23.080
+how flies work
+
+00:58:23.080 --> 00:58:25.080
+not complete but nearly complete atlases
+
+00:58:25.080 --> 00:58:27.080
+on how the fly works
+
+00:58:27.080 --> 00:58:29.080
+and the human body works
+
+00:58:29.080 --> 00:58:31.080
+what kind of stupid statement
+
+00:58:31.080 --> 00:58:33.080
+is that
+
+00:58:33.080 --> 00:58:35.080
+I mean seriously what kind of stupid
+
+00:58:35.080 --> 00:58:37.080
+statement is that
+
+00:58:37.080 --> 00:58:39.080
+this is the kind of arrogance
+
+00:58:39.080 --> 00:58:41.080
+that I'm talking about
+
+00:58:41.080 --> 00:58:43.080
+the complete lack of reverence
+
+00:58:43.080 --> 00:58:45.080
+for the biology they're studying
+
+00:58:45.080 --> 00:58:47.080
+it is absolutely disgusting
+
+00:58:47.080 --> 00:58:49.080
+it borders on blasphemy
+
+00:58:49.080 --> 00:58:51.080
+we've gone from in 2017
+
+00:58:51.080 --> 00:58:53.080
+funding some methods work
+
+00:58:53.080 --> 00:58:55.080
+to now having really
+
+00:58:55.080 --> 00:58:57.080
+not complete but nearly complete
+
+00:58:57.080 --> 00:58:59.080
+atlases of how the human body works
+
+00:58:59.080 --> 00:59:01.080
+how flies work
+
+00:59:01.080 --> 00:59:03.080
+how mice work
+
+00:59:03.080 --> 00:59:05.080
+at the single cell level
+
+00:59:05.080 --> 00:59:07.080
+and being able to then try to piece together
+
+00:59:07.080 --> 00:59:09.080
+and the neat thing about
+
+00:59:09.080 --> 00:59:11.080
+the sort of inflection point
+
+00:59:11.080 --> 00:59:13.080
+where we're at in AI
+
+00:59:13.080 --> 00:59:15.080
+is that I can't look at this data
+
+00:59:15.080 --> 00:59:17.080
+and make sense of it
+
+00:59:17.080 --> 00:59:19.080
+there's just too much of it
+
+00:59:19.080 --> 00:59:21.080
+and biology is complex
+
+00:59:21.080 --> 00:59:23.080
+human bodies are complex
+
+00:59:23.080 --> 00:59:25.080
+we need this much information
+
+00:59:25.080 --> 00:59:27.080
+but the use of large language models
+
+00:59:27.080 --> 00:59:29.080
+can help us actually
+
+00:59:29.080 --> 00:59:31.080
+look at that data and gain insights
+
+00:59:31.080 --> 00:59:33.080
+look at what trends are
+
+00:59:33.080 --> 00:59:35.080
+consistent with health
+
+00:59:35.080 --> 00:59:37.080
+understand patterns and genomes
+
+00:59:37.080 --> 00:59:39.080
+and what's consistent with disease
+
+00:59:39.080 --> 00:59:41.080
+and what's consistent with health
+
+00:59:45.080 --> 00:59:47.080
+I'm suspected
+
+00:59:47.080 --> 00:59:49.080
+and eventually our hope
+
+00:59:49.080 --> 00:59:51.080
+through the use of these data sets
+
+00:59:51.080 --> 00:59:53.080
+that we've helped curate in the application
+
+00:59:53.080 --> 00:59:55.080
+of large language models
+
+00:59:55.080 --> 00:59:57.080
+is to be able to formulate a virtual cell
+
+00:59:57.080 --> 00:59:59.080
+a cell that's completely
+
+00:59:59.080 --> 01:00:01.080
+built off of the data sets of what we know about the human body
+
+01:00:01.080 --> 01:00:03.080
+maybe you can use that virtual cell
+
+01:00:03.080 --> 01:00:05.080
+and then you can put on goggles
+
+01:00:05.080 --> 01:00:07.080
+and go do that shit forever
+
+01:00:07.080 --> 01:00:09.080
+just do your experiments all in your virtual cells
+
+01:00:09.080 --> 01:00:11.080
+and you can never talk to us again
+
+01:00:11.080 --> 01:00:15.080
+but allows us to manipulate and learn faster
+
+01:00:15.080 --> 01:00:17.080
+and try new things to help move science
+
+01:00:17.080 --> 01:00:19.080
+and then medicine alone
+
+01:00:19.080 --> 01:00:21.080
+do you think we've cataloged
+
+01:00:21.080 --> 01:00:23.080
+the total thing?
+
+01:00:23.080 --> 01:00:25.080
+think about how dumb that is
+
+01:00:25.080 --> 01:00:27.080
+we're going to make a model of a virtual cell
+
+01:00:27.080 --> 01:00:29.080
+that will allow us to do things
+
+01:00:29.080 --> 01:00:31.080
+that normal cells wouldn't
+
+01:00:31.080 --> 01:00:33.080
+you're going to make a MATLAB version of a cell
+
+01:00:33.080 --> 01:00:37.080
+that's going to give you some insight into how to manipulate cell function
+
+01:00:37.080 --> 01:00:39.080
+why don't you just make a model of the weather
+
+01:00:39.080 --> 01:00:41.080
+so that we can know what the weather is going to be tomorrow
+
+01:00:41.080 --> 01:00:43.080
+why don't you make a model of a pandemic
+
+01:00:43.080 --> 01:00:45.080
+so we know how many people are going to die
+
+01:00:45.080 --> 01:00:49.080
+make some models about what happens
+
+01:00:49.080 --> 01:00:51.080
+when people stop vaccinating
+
+01:00:51.080 --> 01:00:53.080
+maybe you can make some models
+
+01:00:53.080 --> 01:00:55.080
+about what happens when you
+
+01:00:55.080 --> 01:00:57.080
+put certain Facebook posts
+
+01:00:57.080 --> 01:00:59.080
+in front of certain people's faces
+
+01:00:59.080 --> 01:01:03.080
+and how many negative Trump Facebook posts
+
+01:01:03.080 --> 01:01:05.080
+would you have to put in front of Democrats
+
+01:01:05.080 --> 01:01:07.080
+registered Democrats' faces
+
+01:01:07.080 --> 01:01:09.080
+before there would be a civil war
+
+01:01:09.080 --> 01:01:11.080
+why don't you measure something useful
+
+01:01:11.080 --> 01:01:13.080
+with the data that you have
+
+01:01:13.080 --> 01:01:17.080
+these are charlatan liars
+
+01:01:17.080 --> 01:01:19.080
+charlatan liars at the highest
+
+01:01:19.080 --> 01:01:21.080
+absolute highest echelons
+
+01:01:21.080 --> 01:01:25.080
+of our visible social structure
+
+01:01:25.080 --> 01:01:27.080
+and I say that very
+
+01:01:27.080 --> 01:01:29.080
+specifically our visual
+
+01:01:29.080 --> 01:01:31.080
+visible social structure
+
+01:01:31.080 --> 01:01:33.080
+in America is how we are being covered
+
+01:01:33.080 --> 01:01:35.080
+these visible thought leaders
+
+01:01:35.080 --> 01:01:37.080
+that are put in front of us
+
+01:01:37.080 --> 01:01:39.080
+by the algorithms
+
+01:01:39.080 --> 01:01:41.080
+artificially elevated by the algorithms
+
+01:01:41.080 --> 01:01:43.080
+including these three people
+
+01:01:47.080 --> 01:01:49.080
+this guy, an academic biologist
+
+01:01:49.080 --> 01:01:51.080
+who almost certainly has used
+
+01:01:51.080 --> 01:01:53.080
+transfection in his lab
+
+01:01:53.080 --> 01:01:55.080
+multiple times on multiple projects
+
+01:01:55.080 --> 01:01:57.080
+but was too stupid to know that we shouldn't
+
+01:01:57.080 --> 01:01:59.080
+transfect healthy humans
+
+01:02:03.080 --> 01:02:05.080
+what else, how else should I characterize him?
+
+01:02:05.080 --> 01:02:07.080
+I mean if you were
+
+01:02:07.080 --> 01:02:11.080
+if you drove your car into somebody's house
+
+01:02:11.080 --> 01:02:13.080
+because you thought the garage door
+
+01:02:13.080 --> 01:02:15.080
+was going to open by itself
+
+01:02:15.080 --> 01:02:17.080
+you can't just say like well I mean
+
+01:02:17.080 --> 01:02:19.080
+you know
+
+01:02:20.080 --> 01:02:22.080
+and if you let a bunch of people
+
+01:02:22.080 --> 01:02:24.080
+transfect themselves and you should have done
+
+01:02:24.080 --> 01:02:26.080
+known better then you're dumb
+
+01:02:26.080 --> 01:02:30.080
+you should have spoke up
+
+01:02:30.080 --> 01:02:32.080
+maybe he doesn't even know yet
+
+01:02:32.080 --> 01:02:34.080
+but that's very unlikely
+
+01:02:34.080 --> 01:02:38.080
+it's very unlikely at this point
+
+01:02:38.080 --> 01:02:40.080
+that any of these people don't know
+
+01:02:40.080 --> 01:02:42.080
+and the ones that don't know
+
+01:02:42.080 --> 01:02:44.080
+choose not to know
+
+01:02:44.080 --> 01:02:46.080
+the lookaway doctrine
+
+01:02:46.080 --> 01:02:48.080
+in the military it's called
+
+01:02:48.080 --> 01:02:50.080
+just don't ask questions about what's happening behind that curtain
+
+01:02:50.080 --> 01:02:52.080
+what are those sounds?
+
+01:02:52.080 --> 01:02:54.080
+it doesn't matter it's none of your concern
+
+01:02:56.080 --> 01:02:58.080
+without a doubt
+
+01:02:58.080 --> 01:03:00.080
+all these people know how we're being governed
+
+01:03:00.080 --> 01:03:02.080
+without a doubt all these people know
+
+01:03:02.080 --> 01:03:04.080
+we're being governed by a mythology
+
+01:03:04.080 --> 01:03:06.080
+they are just participating
+
+01:03:06.080 --> 01:03:08.080
+because they get fame
+
+01:03:08.080 --> 01:03:10.080
+fortune and status from it
+
+01:03:12.080 --> 01:03:14.080
+number of different cell types
+
+01:03:14.080 --> 01:03:16.080
+every week I look at great journals like
+
+01:03:16.080 --> 01:03:18.080
+cell nature and science
+
+01:03:18.080 --> 01:03:20.080
+I saw recently that using single cell sequencing
+
+01:03:20.080 --> 01:03:22.080
+they've categorized
+
+01:03:22.080 --> 01:03:24.080
+18 plus different types of fat cells
+
+01:03:24.080 --> 01:03:26.080
+we always think like a fat cell versus a muscle cell
+
+01:03:26.080 --> 01:03:28.080
+so now you've got 18 types
+
+01:03:28.080 --> 01:03:30.080
+each one is going to express many many different
+
+01:03:30.080 --> 01:03:32.080
+genes and RNAs
+
+01:03:32.080 --> 01:03:34.080
+and perhaps the
+
+01:03:34.080 --> 01:03:36.080
+one of them is responsible for
+
+01:03:36.080 --> 01:03:38.080
+you know what we see in advanced type 2 diabetes
+
+01:03:38.080 --> 01:03:40.080
+or in other forms of obesity
+
+01:03:40.080 --> 01:03:42.080
+or where people can't lay down fat cells
+
+01:03:42.080 --> 01:03:44.080
+which turns out to be just as detrimental in those extreme cases
+
+01:03:44.080 --> 01:03:46.080
+so now you've got all these lists of genes
+
+01:03:46.080 --> 01:03:49.080
+but I always thought of single cell sequencing
+
+01:03:49.080 --> 01:03:51.080
+as necessary but not sufficient
+
+01:03:51.080 --> 01:03:53.080
+but you need the information but it doesn't
+
+01:03:53.080 --> 01:03:55.080
+resolve the problem and I think of it more of a
+
+01:03:55.080 --> 01:03:57.080
+as a hypothesis generating experiment
+
+01:03:57.080 --> 01:03:59.080
+okay so you have all these genes and you can say
+
+01:03:59.080 --> 01:04:01.080
+well this gene is particularly elevated in the
+
+01:04:01.080 --> 01:04:03.080
+diabetics cell type of
+
+01:04:03.080 --> 01:04:05.080
+let's say one of these fat cells or muscle cells
+
+01:04:05.080 --> 01:04:06.080
+for that matter
+
+01:04:06.080 --> 01:04:08.080
+whereas it's not in non-diabetics
+
+01:04:08.080 --> 01:04:10.080
+so then of the millions of different cells
+
+01:04:10.080 --> 01:04:13.080
+maybe only five of them differ dramatically
+
+01:04:13.080 --> 01:04:15.080
+so then you generate a hypothesis
+
+01:04:15.080 --> 01:04:17.080
+oh it's the ones that differ dramatically that are important
+
+01:04:17.080 --> 01:04:19.080
+but maybe one of those genes
+
+01:04:19.080 --> 01:04:21.080
+when it's only you know 50%
+
+01:04:21.080 --> 01:04:23.080
+changed has a huge effect because of some
+
+01:04:23.080 --> 01:04:25.080
+network biology effect and so I guess what I'm trying to
+
+01:04:25.080 --> 01:04:27.080
+get to here is you know how does one
+
+01:04:27.080 --> 01:04:30.080
+meet that challenge and can AI help resolve that challenge
+
+01:04:30.080 --> 01:04:32.080
+by essentially placing those lists of genes
+
+01:04:32.080 --> 01:04:34.080
+into a you know 10,000 hypotheses
+
+01:04:34.080 --> 01:04:36.080
+because I'll tell you that the graduate students and postdocs
+
+01:04:36.080 --> 01:04:38.080
+in my lab get a chance to test one hypothesis at a time
+
+01:04:38.080 --> 01:04:40.080
+and that's really the challenge let alone one lab
+
+01:04:40.080 --> 01:04:42.080
+and so for those that are listening to this
+
+01:04:42.080 --> 01:04:44.080
+and you know hopefully it's not getting outside the scope
+
+01:04:44.080 --> 01:04:46.080
+of kind of like standard understanding
+
+01:04:46.080 --> 01:04:48.080
+or the understanding we've generated here
+
+01:04:48.080 --> 01:04:50.080
+but what basically saying is you have to pick at some point
+
+01:04:50.080 --> 01:04:53.080
+more data always sounds great but then how do you decide what to test?
+
+01:04:53.080 --> 01:04:55.080
+so no we don't know all the cell types
+
+01:04:55.080 --> 01:04:58.080
+I think one of the one thing that was really exciting
+
+01:04:58.080 --> 01:05:01.080
+when we first launched this work was you know cystic fibrosis
+
+01:05:01.080 --> 01:05:03.080
+like cystic fibrosis is caused by mutation
+
+01:05:03.080 --> 01:05:05.080
+and CFTR that's pretty well known
+
+01:05:05.080 --> 01:05:08.080
+it affects a certain channel that makes it hard for mucus to be clear
+
+01:05:08.080 --> 01:05:10.080
+that's the basic cystic fibrosis when I went to medical school
+
+01:05:10.080 --> 01:05:11.080
+it was taught as fat
+
+01:05:11.080 --> 01:05:13.080
+so their lungs fill up with fluid
+
+01:05:13.080 --> 01:05:15.080
+carrying around sacks of fluid filling up
+
+01:05:15.080 --> 01:05:18.080
+I've known people I've worked with people and they have to literally dump the fluid out
+
+01:05:18.080 --> 01:05:21.080
+they can't run or do an intense exercise life is shorter
+
+01:05:21.080 --> 01:05:25.080
+life is shorter and when we applied single cell methodologies to the lungs
+
+01:05:25.080 --> 01:05:30.080
+they discovered an entirely new cell type that actually is affected by mutation
+
+01:05:30.080 --> 01:05:33.080
+and the CF mutation the cystic fibrosis mutation
+
+01:05:33.080 --> 01:05:36.080
+that actually changes the paradigm of how we think about cystic fibrosis
+
+01:05:36.080 --> 01:05:39.080
+just a note so I don't think we know all the cell types
+
+01:05:39.080 --> 01:05:41.080
+I think we'll continue to discover them
+
+01:05:41.080 --> 01:05:44.080
+we'll continue to discover new relationships between cell and disease
+
+01:05:44.080 --> 01:05:47.080
+which leads me to the second example I want to bring up is
+
+01:05:47.080 --> 01:05:51.080
+this large data set that the entire scientific community has built our own single cell
+
+01:05:51.080 --> 01:05:54.080
+is starting to allow us to say this mutation
+
+01:05:54.080 --> 01:05:57.080
+where is it expressed what types of cell types it's expressed in
+
+01:05:57.080 --> 01:06:01.080
+and we actually have built a tool at CZI called cell by gene
+
+01:06:01.080 --> 01:06:04.080
+where you can put in the mutation that you're interested in
+
+01:06:04.080 --> 01:06:07.080
+and it gives you a heat map of cross cell types
+
+01:06:07.080 --> 01:06:11.080
+of which cell types are expressing the gene that you're interested in
+
+01:06:11.080 --> 01:06:16.080
+and so then you can start looking at okay if I look at gene X
+
+01:06:16.080 --> 01:06:20.080
+and I know it's related to heart disease but if you look at the heat map
+
+01:06:20.080 --> 01:06:24.080
+it's also spiking in the pancreas that allows you to generate a hypothesis why
+
+01:06:24.080 --> 01:06:28.080
+and what happens when this gene is mutated and you're in the function of your pancreas
+
+01:06:28.080 --> 01:06:31.080
+really exciting way to look and ask questions differently
+
+01:06:31.080 --> 01:06:36.080
+and you can also imagine a world where if you're trying to develop a therapy
+
+01:06:36.080 --> 01:06:40.080
+a drug and the goal is to treat the function of the heart
+
+01:06:40.080 --> 01:06:43.080
+but you know that it's also really active in the pancreas again
+
+01:06:43.080 --> 01:06:47.080
+so what is there going to be an unexpected side effect that you should think about
+
+01:06:47.080 --> 01:06:50.080
+as you're bringing this drug to clinical trials
+
+01:06:50.080 --> 01:06:54.080
+so she's talking about bringing a drug to clinical trials
+
+01:06:54.080 --> 01:06:58.080
+she's talking about substances she's talking about products
+
+01:06:58.080 --> 01:07:01.080
+she's BSing
+
+01:07:01.080 --> 01:07:04.080
+and they're lying about this idea that they're going to cure all diseases
+
+01:07:04.080 --> 01:07:06.080
+they're going to collect all the data
+
+01:07:06.080 --> 01:07:10.080
+they're going to collect all the data as much data as they possibly can
+
+01:07:10.080 --> 01:07:17.080
+under the excuse of philanthropy and maybe public health
+
+01:07:17.080 --> 01:07:22.080
+but they're also talking about software tools that they're going to apply to this data
+
+01:07:22.080 --> 01:07:27.080
+so that it becomes proprietary information so that it becomes patentable
+
+01:07:27.080 --> 01:07:31.080
+make no mistake about it it's all the same game
+
+01:07:31.080 --> 01:07:34.080
+it's the same game as Absolera's playing
+
+01:07:34.080 --> 01:07:37.080
+they're playing the same game with the data
+
+01:07:37.080 --> 01:07:39.080
+they're trying to monetize it
+
+01:07:39.080 --> 01:07:41.080
+privatize it
+
+01:07:41.080 --> 01:07:43.080
+profitize it whatever
+
+01:07:43.080 --> 01:07:45.080
+make it into a product
+
+01:07:45.080 --> 01:07:49.080
+and these software stacks that they're using as informatics
+
+01:07:49.080 --> 01:07:52.080
+you know processing tools they're all patented
+
+01:07:52.080 --> 01:07:54.080
+they're all going to be rented out
+
+01:07:56.080 --> 01:07:59.080
+and even if they become public tools that's not the point
+
+01:07:59.080 --> 01:08:02.080
+the point is is that they're gathering the data
+
+01:08:02.080 --> 01:08:05.080
+and they're doing it under false pretenses
+
+01:08:05.080 --> 01:08:08.080
+they're doing it under the idea that they're going to help people
+
+01:08:08.080 --> 01:08:10.080
+what they want to do is control
+
+01:08:13.080 --> 01:08:15.080
+and I'm going to say it one more time
+
+01:08:15.080 --> 01:08:17.080
+because I think it's very important to point out
+
+01:08:17.080 --> 01:08:19.080
+if my wife and I were to do this interview
+
+01:08:19.080 --> 01:08:21.080
+you would see that we were married
+
+01:08:21.080 --> 01:08:24.080
+and it would be obvious that we sleep together
+
+01:08:24.080 --> 01:08:29.080
+the love between my wife and I would be obvious
+
+01:08:29.080 --> 01:08:32.080
+our affection would be obvious
+
+01:08:32.080 --> 01:08:34.080
+our mutual respect would be obvious
+
+01:08:34.080 --> 01:08:38.080
+and I don't see it here
+
+01:08:38.080 --> 01:08:42.080
+I don't see it here at all
+
+01:08:42.080 --> 01:08:44.080
+and that's because it's not there
+
+01:08:44.080 --> 01:08:49.080
+this is a fake couple that is being used to rule us
+
+01:08:50.080 --> 01:08:53.080
+I'm certain of it
+
+01:08:53.080 --> 01:08:55.080
+it's an incredibly exciting tool
+
+01:08:55.080 --> 01:08:57.080
+and one that's only going to get better
+
+01:08:57.080 --> 01:09:00.080
+as we get more and more sophisticated ways to analyze the data
+
+01:09:00.080 --> 01:09:02.080
+let's say I love that because if I look at the advances
+
+01:09:02.080 --> 01:09:04.080
+in neuroscience over the last 15 years
+
+01:09:04.080 --> 01:09:07.080
+most of them did necessarily come from looking at the nervous system
+
+01:09:07.080 --> 01:09:10.080
+came from the understanding that the immune system impacts the brain
+
+01:09:10.080 --> 01:09:13.080
+everyone prior to that talked about the brain as immune-privileged organ
+
+01:09:13.080 --> 01:09:16.080
+what you just said also bridges the divide between
+
+01:09:16.080 --> 01:09:18.080
+single cells organs and systems
+
+01:09:18.080 --> 01:09:20.080
+because ultimately cells make up organs
+
+01:09:20.080 --> 01:09:22.080
+and they're all talking to one another
+
+01:09:22.080 --> 01:09:24.080
+and everyone nowadays is familiar with gut brain access
+
+01:09:24.080 --> 01:09:26.080
+or the microbiome being so important
+
+01:09:26.080 --> 01:09:29.080
+but rarely is the discussion between organs
+
+01:09:29.080 --> 01:09:32.080
+discussed so to speak
+
+01:09:32.080 --> 01:09:34.080
+what's really frustrating about this
+
+01:09:34.080 --> 01:09:37.080
+is that this guy is actually a real physical fitness freak
+
+01:09:37.080 --> 01:09:39.080
+you can see he's kind of pumped up
+
+01:09:39.080 --> 01:09:42.080
+he talks about exercise a lot
+
+01:09:42.080 --> 01:09:45.080
+and about an exercise routine and about sleep
+
+01:09:45.080 --> 01:09:49.080
+and about house sleep
+
+01:09:49.080 --> 01:09:53.080
+thank you very much I know very well can ruin your physical mental health
+
+01:09:53.080 --> 01:09:56.080
+he knows all about food
+
+01:09:56.080 --> 01:09:59.080
+and about the gut brain interaction
+
+01:09:59.080 --> 01:10:01.080
+which he just casually glossed over there
+
+01:10:01.080 --> 01:10:06.080
+how does studying individual cells
+
+01:10:06.080 --> 01:10:10.080
+ever get you to the point to understand how they contribute to the pattern integrity
+
+01:10:10.080 --> 01:10:15.080
+and when is this guy going to say
+
+01:10:15.080 --> 01:10:18.080
+so what about this curing all diseases
+
+01:10:18.080 --> 01:10:21.080
+where's the health and wellness part about this
+
+01:10:21.080 --> 01:10:23.080
+where's the nutritional aspect of it
+
+01:10:23.080 --> 01:10:27.080
+are you funding anything that has to do with changing people's lifestyles
+
+01:10:27.080 --> 01:10:31.080
+as opposed to just fixing the problems that are caused by the crap
+
+01:10:31.080 --> 01:10:34.080
+habits that they have
+
+01:10:34.080 --> 01:10:39.080
+because that's the part of this narrative that gets very very frustrating
+
+01:10:39.080 --> 01:10:43.080
+because obese people are not people that need a cure
+
+01:10:43.080 --> 01:10:46.080
+obese people are not people that need medicine
+
+01:10:46.080 --> 01:10:50.080
+obese people are not people that need a special pill that hasn't been invented yet
+
+01:10:50.080 --> 01:10:56.080
+I'm going to go out and a limb here and say that a lot of obese people just need a kick in the ass
+
+01:10:56.080 --> 01:10:59.080
+they needed to be told they were fat
+
+01:10:59.080 --> 01:11:02.080
+a long frickin time ago by somebody that loved them
+
+01:11:02.080 --> 01:11:07.080
+so that they would have done something different about the choices that they made for the last 20 years
+
+01:11:07.080 --> 01:11:11.080
+but I hate to break it to you
+
+01:11:11.080 --> 01:11:15.080
+but if the math says that if you're 600 pounds there was a time when you were 300
+
+01:11:15.080 --> 01:11:20.080
+and when you were 300 pounds someone should have done told you that you're too stupid fat
+
+01:11:20.080 --> 01:11:25.080
+but none of that discussion is on this table here
+
+01:11:25.080 --> 01:11:29.080
+you talk about diabetes but you're not going to talk about the American diet
+
+01:11:29.080 --> 01:11:33.080
+and about how little we do to solve that problem in children
+
+01:11:33.080 --> 01:11:42.080
+you're not going to talk about the fact that zucker could frickin fund an entire public school
+
+01:11:42.080 --> 01:11:48.080
+lunch program for the money that he's doing and that would cure so many more diseases than anything else
+
+01:11:48.080 --> 01:11:53.080
+this is where this just gets absurd
+
+01:11:53.080 --> 01:11:59.080
+that these guys are all rubbing each other and getting all excited about all the big words they can use together
+
+01:11:59.080 --> 01:12:01.080
+and how they can agree on what they mean
+
+01:12:01.080 --> 01:12:05.080
+but they're not talking about the heart of the problem
+
+01:12:05.080 --> 01:12:09.080
+we got this 340 million people and most of them are unhealthy
+
+01:12:09.080 --> 01:12:14.080
+and it's not because we haven't solved the problem of the human genome yet
+
+01:12:14.080 --> 01:12:19.080
+I think that's a very clever way of putting it
+
+01:12:19.080 --> 01:12:22.080
+we've got 350 million people in the United States
+
+01:12:22.080 --> 01:12:24.080
+most of them are extremely unhealthy
+
+01:12:24.080 --> 01:12:29.080
+and it's not because we haven't solved the human genome yet
+
+01:12:30.080 --> 01:12:32.080
+you jackasses
+
+01:12:32.080 --> 01:12:37.080
+it's wonderful so that that tool was generated by CZI or CZI funded that tool
+
+01:12:37.080 --> 01:12:38.080
+we built that
+
+01:12:38.080 --> 01:12:39.080
+we built it
+
+01:12:39.080 --> 01:12:41.080
+so is it built by meta?
+
+01:12:41.080 --> 01:12:42.080
+it's its own engineers
+
+01:12:42.080 --> 01:12:43.080
+got it
+
+01:12:43.080 --> 01:12:45.080
+there are completely different organizations
+
+01:12:45.080 --> 01:12:46.080
+incredible
+
+01:12:46.080 --> 01:12:49.080
+and so a graduate student or postdoc who's interested in particular mutation
+
+01:12:49.080 --> 01:12:51.080
+can put this mutation into this database
+
+01:12:51.080 --> 01:12:54.080
+that graduate student or postdoc might be in a laboratory known for working on heart
+
+01:12:54.080 --> 01:12:58.080
+but suddenly find that they're collaborating with other scientists that work on the pancreas
+
+01:12:58.080 --> 01:13:01.080
+which also is wonderful because it bridges the divide between these fields
+
+01:13:01.080 --> 01:13:03.080
+fields are so siloed in science
+
+01:13:03.080 --> 01:13:06.080
+not just different buildings but people rarely talk unless things like this are happening
+
+01:13:06.080 --> 01:13:10.080
+I mean the graduate student is someone that we want to empower because one they're the future of science as you know
+
+01:13:10.080 --> 01:13:14.080
+and within cell by gene if you put in the gene you're interested in and it shows you the heat map
+
+01:13:14.080 --> 01:13:17.080
+we also will pull up like the most relevant papers to that gene
+
+01:13:17.080 --> 01:13:19.080
+and so like read these things
+
+01:13:19.080 --> 01:13:20.080
+fantastic
+
+01:13:20.080 --> 01:13:23.080
+as we all know quality nutrition influences of course our physical health
+
+01:13:23.080 --> 01:13:25.080
+but also our mental health and our cognitive functioning
+
+01:13:25.080 --> 01:13:27.080
+our memory our ability to learn new things and to focus
+
+01:13:27.080 --> 01:13:30.080
+and we know that one of the most important features of high quality nutrition
+
+01:13:30.080 --> 01:13:35.080
+is making sure that we get enough vitamins and minerals from high quality unprocessed or minimally processed sources
+
+01:13:35.080 --> 01:13:40.080
+as well as enough probiotics and prebiotics and fiber to support basically all the cellular functions in our body
+
+01:13:40.080 --> 01:13:42.080
+including the gut microbiome
+
+01:13:42.080 --> 01:13:46.080
+now I like most everybody try to get optimal nutrition from whole foods
+
+01:13:46.080 --> 01:13:49.080
+ideally mostly from minimally processed or non processed foods
+
+01:13:49.080 --> 01:13:51.080
+however one of the challenges that I and so many other people face
+
+01:13:51.080 --> 01:13:54.080
+is getting enough servings of high quality fruits and vegetables per day
+
+01:13:54.080 --> 01:13:57.080
+as well as fiber and probiotics that often accompany those fruits and vegetables
+
+01:13:57.080 --> 01:14:00.080
+that's why way back in 2012 long before I ever had a podcast
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+01:14:00.080 --> 01:14:02.080
+I started drinking AG1
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+01:14:02.080 --> 01:14:05.080
+and so I'm delighted that AG1 is sponsoring the Huberman lab podcast
+
+01:14:05.080 --> 01:14:09.080
+the reason I started taking AG1 and the reason I still drink AG1 once or twice a day
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+01:14:09.080 --> 01:14:11.080
+is that it provides all of my foundational nutritional needs
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+01:14:11.080 --> 01:14:16.080
+that is it provides insurance that I get the proper amounts of vitamins, minerals, probiotics and fiber
+
+01:14:16.080 --> 01:14:19.080
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+
+01:14:32.080 --> 01:14:34.080
+I just think going back to your question
+
+01:14:34.080 --> 01:14:37.080
+that was too ironic more sometimes I could discover it I mean I assume so
+
+01:14:37.080 --> 01:14:40.080
+right I mean no catalog of the stuff is ever you know doesn't seem like we're ever done
+
+01:14:40.080 --> 01:14:43.080
+right we keep on finding more but I think that
+
+01:14:43.080 --> 01:14:48.080
+what is the problem with finding more do you understand that there's this thing
+
+01:14:48.080 --> 01:14:51.080
+right about lumpers and splitters in biology
+
+01:14:51.080 --> 01:14:56.080
+and what they're right now talking about is the splitting aspect of biology
+
+01:14:56.080 --> 01:15:01.080
+so biologists tend to be lumped into two groups or can be lumped into two groups
+
+01:15:01.080 --> 01:15:04.080
+they can be lumped into lumpers or splitters
+
+01:15:04.080 --> 01:15:10.080
+the splitters are people that like to split things into ever smaller categories to study ever more
+
+01:15:10.080 --> 01:15:13.080
+detailed categorization of things to try and understand things
+
+01:15:13.080 --> 01:15:17.080
+and lumpers are people that like to lump things together in order to understand them
+
+01:15:17.080 --> 01:15:21.080
+and generally speaking it is really true
+
+01:15:21.080 --> 01:15:26.080
+biologists are either one or the other and it seems like these guys have decided that the splitters are the right ones
+
+01:15:26.080 --> 01:15:32.080
+and so they're talking about classifying cells and every time they start to dissect a new cell population
+
+01:15:32.080 --> 01:15:35.080
+we find all kinds of new cell types
+
+01:15:35.080 --> 01:15:38.080
+that's the problem with being a splitter
+
+01:15:38.080 --> 01:15:42.080
+you know if you just say you like blondes that's a lot of girls
+
+01:15:42.080 --> 01:15:45.080
+if you start to say well I like blondes but I'm really picky about their
+
+01:15:45.080 --> 01:15:50.080
+whether how long the hair is and what color their eyes are and whether they like to wear jeans or not
+
+01:15:50.080 --> 01:15:54.080
+then you're a splitter
+
+01:15:54.080 --> 01:16:00.080
+and in biology trying to understand things exclusively by splitting things
+
+01:16:00.080 --> 01:16:10.080
+and ever smaller things is a bit like imagining that if you dissect the complexity of the pattern integrity enough
+
+01:16:10.080 --> 01:16:14.080
+that how its parts come together will make sense
+
+01:16:14.080 --> 01:16:19.080
+for example if you just studied all of the molecules in a wave of water
+
+01:16:19.080 --> 01:16:24.080
+eventually if you knew where all those molecules were you'd be able to simulate the wave
+
+01:16:24.080 --> 01:16:28.080
+and you understand how waves work
+
+01:16:28.080 --> 01:16:32.080
+and so you're studying these little molecules and the salt and everything
+
+01:16:32.080 --> 01:16:36.080
+but you don't have any concept of how they work together to form a wave
+
+01:16:36.080 --> 01:16:39.080
+to find how the server rides it
+
+01:16:39.080 --> 01:16:44.080
+and in this scenario they're talking about splitting cells into ever smaller groups with the idea
+
+01:16:44.080 --> 01:16:49.080
+that once we split them into the useful groups the right groups
+
+01:16:49.080 --> 01:16:52.080
+then the pattern that they make together will become obvious
+
+01:16:52.080 --> 01:16:55.080
+and I think this is really a wrong answer
+
+01:16:55.080 --> 01:17:00.080
+of modern LLMs is the ability to kind of imagine different states that things can be in
+
+01:17:00.080 --> 01:17:04.080
+so from all the work that we've done and funded on the human cell atlas
+
+01:17:04.080 --> 01:17:09.080
+there is a large deal you get the feeling that he looks at her sometimes to get a nod
+
+01:17:09.080 --> 01:17:13.080
+or like looks at her for approval
+
+01:17:13.080 --> 01:17:18.080
+I really feel like he's looking for her to say no or yes when he looks over to her
+
+01:17:18.080 --> 01:17:24.080
+and she's never looking at him she's always looking down really intensely listening in case she has to correct him
+
+01:17:24.080 --> 01:17:29.080
+purpose of data that you can now train a kind of large scale model on
+
+01:17:29.080 --> 01:17:32.080
+and one of the things that we're doing is see
+
+01:17:32.080 --> 01:17:37.080
+which I think is pretty exciting is building what we think is one of the largest non-profit life sciences
+
+01:17:37.080 --> 01:17:41.080
+AI clusters right it's like a you know the order of a thousand GPUs
+
+01:17:41.080 --> 01:17:45.080
+and you know it's larger than what most people have access to in academia
+
+01:17:45.080 --> 01:17:47.080
+you can do serious engineering work on
+
+01:17:47.080 --> 01:17:52.080
+and you know by basically training a model with all of the human cell atlas data
+
+01:17:52.080 --> 01:17:54.080
+and a bunch of other inputs as well
+
+01:17:54.080 --> 01:17:59.080
+we think you'll be able to basically imagine all of the different types of cells
+
+01:17:59.080 --> 01:18:02.080
+and all the different states that they can be in and when they're healthy and diseased
+
+01:18:02.080 --> 01:18:08.080
+and how they'll interact with different interact with each other interact with different potential drugs
+
+01:18:08.080 --> 01:18:10.080
+but I mean I think the state of LLMs
+
+01:18:10.080 --> 01:18:13.080
+I think this is where it's helpful to understand you know have a good understanding
+
+01:18:13.080 --> 01:18:16.080
+and be grounded in like the modern state of AI I mean these things are not full
+
+01:18:16.080 --> 01:18:20.080
+so he's talking about language models again LLMs
+
+01:18:24.080 --> 01:18:28.080
+so he's still talking about using a language model to crack the genome
+
+01:18:30.080 --> 01:18:37.080
+proof right I mean one of the flaws of modern LLMs is they hallucinate right so the question is how do you make it so that
+
+01:18:37.080 --> 01:18:40.080
+that can be an advantage rather than a disadvantage
+
+01:18:40.080 --> 01:18:43.080
+and I think the way that it ends up being an advantage is when they help you imagine
+
+01:18:43.080 --> 01:18:47.080
+a bunch of states that someone could be in but then you know as the scientist or engineer go and validate
+
+01:18:47.080 --> 01:18:50.080
+that those are true whether they're you know solutions to how a protein can be folded
+
+01:18:50.080 --> 01:18:53.080
+or possible states that a cell could be in when it's interacting with other things
+
+01:18:53.080 --> 01:18:57.080
+but you know we're not yet at the state with AI that you can just take the outputs of these things
+
+01:18:57.080 --> 01:19:03.080
+as like as gospel and run from there but they are very good I think as you said hypothesis generators
+
+01:19:03.080 --> 01:19:08.080
+or possible solution generators that then you can go validate so I know that's a very powerful
+
+01:19:08.080 --> 01:19:12.080
+thing that we can basically you know building on the first five years of science work
+
+01:19:12.080 --> 01:19:15.080
+around the human cell atlas and all the data that's been built out carry that forward
+
+01:19:15.080 --> 01:19:18.080
+into something that I think is going to be a very novel tool going forward
+
+01:19:18.080 --> 01:19:23.080
+and that's the type of thing that I think we're set up to do well I mean you all you had
+
+01:19:23.080 --> 01:19:27.080
+this exchange a little while back about you know funding levels and how CZI is
+
+01:19:27.080 --> 01:19:32.080
+you know just sort of a drop in the in the bucket compared to NIH but I think we have this
+
+01:19:32.080 --> 01:19:37.080
+the thing that I think we can do that's different is funding some of these longer term
+
+01:19:37.080 --> 01:19:41.080
+bigger projects that it is hard to galvanize the and pull together the energy to do that
+
+01:19:41.080 --> 01:19:46.080
+and it's a lot of what most science funding is is like relatively small projects that are exploring
+
+01:19:46.080 --> 01:19:50.080
+things over relatively short time horizons and one of the things that we try to do is
+
+01:19:50.080 --> 01:19:54.080
+like build these tools over you know five ten fifteen year periods they're often projects
+
+01:19:54.080 --> 01:19:57.080
+that require you know hundreds of millions of dollars of funding and world class engineering
+
+01:19:57.080 --> 01:20:01.080
+teams and infrastructure to do and that I think is a pretty cool contribution to the field
+
+01:20:01.080 --> 01:20:06.080
+that that I think is there aren't as many other folks who are doing that kind of thing
+
+01:20:06.080 --> 01:20:09.080
+but that's one of the reasons why I'm personally excited about the virtual cell stuff because
+
+01:20:09.080 --> 01:20:12.080
+it just it's like this perfect intersection of all the stuff that we've done in single cell
+
+01:20:12.080 --> 01:20:19.080
+to previous so virtual cells is dumb as a as a virtual cube of neurons that that
+
+01:20:19.080 --> 01:20:24.080
+Henry Markham said he was going to make in with the blue brain project way back in
+
+01:20:24.080 --> 01:20:31.080
+2005 or 2008 and he got a billion dollars from the EU to do a human brain project where
+
+01:20:31.080 --> 01:20:36.080
+he's going to simulate the whole human brain using neurons that had ten thousand compartments
+
+01:20:37.080 --> 01:20:43.080
+each he really got a billion dollars to do that because he talked that much smack his name is
+
+01:20:43.080 --> 01:20:49.080
+Henry Markham I've done some shows about him before years ago and this is no different
+
+01:20:49.080 --> 01:20:56.080
+this is the same dumb talk in the virtual cell I mean the virtual cell I mean come on
+
+01:20:56.080 --> 01:21:04.080
+the virtual cell the arrogance of this jack is just crazy but they all do it they all
+
+01:21:04.080 --> 01:21:09.080
+play the same game ladies and gentlemen all of them play the same game it's a bullshit
+
+01:21:09.080 --> 01:21:16.080
+game it's a lying game it's a confidence game and we are being governed by a confidence
+
+01:21:16.080 --> 01:21:23.080
+game by these kinds of people in a lot of ways these kinds of people have more influence
+
+01:21:23.080 --> 01:21:28.080
+behind the scenes and a lot of our politicians do our politicians are almost neutered at this
+
+01:21:28.080 --> 01:21:36.080
+stage they don't do anything they oversee a bankrupt government
+
+01:21:36.080 --> 01:21:41.080
+operations that we've done with the field and bring together the industry and AI expertise
+
+01:21:41.080 --> 01:21:46.080
+around this yeah I completely agree that the model of science that you're put together
+
+01:21:46.080 --> 01:21:52.080
+with CZI isn't just unique from NIH but it's extremely important the independent investigator
+
+01:21:52.080 --> 01:21:55.080
+model is what's driven the progression of science in this country and to some extent
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+01:21:55.080 --> 01:22:01.080
+in northern Europe for the last hundred years and it's wonderful on the one hand because
+
+01:22:01.080 --> 01:22:05.080
+it allows for that image we have of a scientist kind of tinkering away or the people in their
+
+01:22:05.080 --> 01:22:12.080
+lab and then they reek us and that hopefully translates to better human health but I think
+
+01:22:12.080 --> 01:22:16.080
+in my opinion we've moved past that model as the most effective model or the only model
+
+01:22:16.080 --> 01:22:19.080
+that should be explored yeah I just think it's a balance you want that but you want to
+
+01:22:19.080 --> 01:22:22.080
+empower those people I think that that's these tools and show those and their mechanisms
+
+01:22:22.080 --> 01:22:26.080
+to do that like NIH but but it's hard to do collaborative sciences it's sort of interesting
+
+01:22:26.080 --> 01:22:30.080
+that we're sitting here not far because I grew up right near here as well I'm not far from
+
+01:22:30.080 --> 01:22:35.080
+the garage model of tech right he looked at the backward model not far from here at all
+
+01:22:35.080 --> 01:22:40.080
+and the idea was you know the tinkerer in the garage the inventor and then people often
+
+01:22:40.080 --> 01:22:43.080
+forget that to implement all the technologies they discovered took enormous factories and
+
+01:22:43.080 --> 01:22:47.080
+warehouse so you know there's there's a similarity there to Facebook meta etc but I think in
+
+01:22:47.080 --> 01:22:50.080
+science what we imagine that the scientists alone in their laboratory and those eureka
+
+01:22:50.080 --> 01:22:54.080
+moments but I think nowadays that the big questions really require extensive collaboration
+
+01:22:54.080 --> 01:22:58.080
+and certainly tool development and one of the tools that you keep coming back to is these
+
+01:22:58.080 --> 01:23:01.080
+LLM's these large language models and maybe you could just elaborate for for those that
+
+01:23:01.080 --> 01:23:06.080
+aren't familiar you know what are what is a large language model for that the uninformed
+
+01:23:06.080 --> 01:23:11.080
+what is it and what does it allow what does it allow us to do that you know different
+
+01:23:11.080 --> 01:23:15.080
+types of other types of AI don't allow or more importantly perhaps what does it allow us
+
+01:23:15.080 --> 01:23:19.080
+to do that a bunch of really smart people highly informed in a given area of science staring
+
+01:23:19.080 --> 01:23:25.080
+at the data what can I do that they can't do sure so I think a lot of the progression
+
+01:23:25.080 --> 01:23:30.080
+of machine learning has been about building systems neural networks or otherwise that
+
+01:23:30.080 --> 01:23:35.080
+can basically make sense and find patterns in larger and larger amounts of data and there's
+
+01:23:35.080 --> 01:23:40.080
+a breakthrough a number of years back that some folks at Google actually made called
+
+01:23:40.080 --> 01:23:45.080
+this transformer model architecture and it was this huge breakthrough because before then
+
+01:23:45.080 --> 01:23:49.080
+there was somewhat of a cap where you know if you fed more data into a neural network
+
+01:23:49.080 --> 01:23:54.080
+past some some point it didn't really glean more insights from it whereas transformers
+
+01:23:54.080 --> 01:23:57.080
+just you know we haven't seen the end of how big that can scale to yet I mean I think
+
+01:23:57.080 --> 01:24:01.080
+there's a chance that we run into some some ceiling but it's never asymptotes we haven't
+
+01:24:01.080 --> 01:24:04.080
+observed it yet but we just haven't built big enough systems yet so I would guess that
+
+01:24:04.080 --> 01:24:08.080
+I don't know I think this is actually one of the big questions and in the AI field today
+
+01:24:08.080 --> 01:24:12.080
+is basically our transformers and our current model architecture is sufficient and if you
+
+01:24:12.080 --> 01:24:15.080
+just build larger and larger clusters you eventually get something that's like human
+
+01:24:15.080 --> 01:24:20.080
+intelligence or super intelligence or is there some kind of fundamental limit to this architecture
+
+01:24:20.080 --> 01:24:24.080
+that we just haven't reached yet and once we we kind of get a little bit further
+
+01:24:24.080 --> 01:24:27.080
+in building them out then we'll reach that and we'll need a few more leaps before we get to
+
+01:24:27.080 --> 01:24:32.080
+you know the level of AI that I think will unlock you know a ton of really futuristic
+
+01:24:32.080 --> 01:24:36.080
+and amazing things but there's no doubt that even just being able to process the amount of data
+
+01:24:36.080 --> 01:24:41.080
+that we can now with this model architecture has unlocked a lot of new use cases and the
+
+01:24:41.080 --> 01:24:46.080
+other called large language models is because one of the first uses of them is people basically
+
+01:24:46.080 --> 01:24:51.080
+feed in all of the language from basically the world wide web and you can think about
+
+01:24:51.080 --> 01:24:57.080
+them as basically prediction machines so if you fit in and you put in prompt and it can
+
+01:24:57.080 --> 01:25:01.080
+basically you know predict a version of what should come next so you know you like type
+
+01:25:01.080 --> 01:25:05.080
+in a headline for a news story and it can kind of predict what it thinks the story should
+
+01:25:05.080 --> 01:25:09.080
+be or you could train it so that it can be a chatbot right where if you're prompted
+
+01:25:09.080 --> 01:25:13.080
+this question you can get this response but one of the interesting things is it turns
+
+01:25:13.080 --> 01:25:17.080
+out that there's actually nothing specific to using human language in it so if instead
+
+01:25:17.080 --> 01:25:21.080
+of feeding it human language if you use that model architecture for a network and instead
+
+01:25:21.080 --> 01:25:27.080
+you feed it all of the human cell outless data then if you prompt it with a state of a cell
+
+01:25:27.080 --> 01:25:32.080
+it can spit out different versions of like what you know how that cell can interact
+
+01:25:32.080 --> 01:25:35.080
+or different states that the cell could be a next when it interacts with different things so this is
+
+01:25:35.080 --> 01:25:42.080
+so stupid because what he's suggesting is that we have an equivalent understanding
+
+01:25:42.080 --> 01:25:50.080
+of biology that we do of human language that human biology has all these known grammatical
+
+01:25:50.080 --> 01:25:57.080
+rules that we already know and there are very limited set of grammatical rules and so it's
+
+01:25:57.080 --> 01:26:02.080
+very easy to predict what will come next but without the grammatical rules without any
+
+01:26:02.080 --> 01:26:06.080
+understanding of what the language means without understanding what the words mean after
+
+01:26:06.080 --> 01:26:12.080
+they're read without understanding what the words mean after they're read and then stored
+
+01:26:12.080 --> 01:26:21.080
+never mind what the stored information is then read out again in behavior
+
+01:26:21.080 --> 01:26:27.080
+again this is ridiculously dumb simple this is really bamboozling people and I'm so shocked
+
+01:26:27.080 --> 01:26:33.080
+but this dude right here is being so steamrolled it's like he's an idiot
+
+01:26:33.080 --> 01:26:38.080
+I think he's tried to ask a couple questions but I'm kind of ashamed of him actually
+
+01:26:38.080 --> 01:26:46.080
+I mean he just did he just did a an advertisement about nutrition and health right you know that
+
+01:26:46.080 --> 01:26:50.080
+right and he still isn't asked the question of wait let's get around this for a minute
+
+01:26:50.080 --> 01:26:53.080
+does it have to take a genetics class so for instance if you give it a bunch of genetics
+
+01:26:53.080 --> 01:26:56.080
+do you have to say hey by the way and then you give it a genetics class it would understand
+
+01:26:56.080 --> 01:27:00.080
+so you know you got DNA RNA mRNA and proteins I think that the basic nature of all these
+
+01:27:00.080 --> 01:27:05.080
+machine learning techniques is there they're basically pattern recognition systems so they're
+
+01:27:05.080 --> 01:27:11.080
+these like very deep statistical machines they still require somebody to teach them you still
+
+01:27:11.080 --> 01:27:15.080
+need someone to teach them the English language to give them the rules and to correct them
+
+01:27:15.080 --> 01:27:20.080
+when they're wrong for millions of iterations before they start to perform like he's talking
+
+01:27:20.080 --> 01:27:27.080
+about and so what are you gonna do sit Kevin McCurnan down at a table and say okay what's
+
+01:27:27.080 --> 01:27:32.080
+this gene mean Kevin type it in what do these two genes mean together type it in what if
+
+01:27:32.080 --> 01:27:39.080
+this gene's higher than that gene type it in Kevin what the hell is his plan to teach
+
+01:27:39.080 --> 01:27:48.080
+this model there's no plan they don't have anything to teach it they're gonna put a
+
+01:27:48.080 --> 01:27:51.080
+bunch of data in there and then what it's gonna mix it around like in a washing machine
+
+01:27:51.080 --> 01:28:00.080
+it's gonna come out all folded and sorted by color this is this is absolute enchantment
+
+01:28:00.080 --> 01:28:08.080
+it's just downright snake oil and the Zuckerberg for sure is not qualified enough as a as an
+
+01:28:08.080 --> 01:28:15.080
+armchair biologist even wax intellectual about these things and you can hear it looks like
+
+01:28:15.080 --> 01:28:21.080
+this woman is kind of ashamed of them they're very efficient at finding patterns so it's not
+
+01:28:21.080 --> 01:28:25.080
+actually you don't need to teach a language model that's trying to you know speak a language
+
+01:28:25.080 --> 01:28:30.080
+you know a lot of specific things about that language either you just feed it in a bunch
+
+01:28:30.080 --> 01:28:35.080
+of examples and then you know let's say you teach it about something in English but then you
+
+01:28:35.080 --> 01:28:39.080
+also give it a bunch of examples of people speaking Italian it'll actually be able to explain
+
+01:28:39.080 --> 01:28:42.080
+the thing that it learned in English and Italian right even though it is so the crossover
+
+01:28:42.080 --> 01:28:47.080
+and just the pattern recognition is the thing that is pretty profound and powerful about this
+
+01:28:47.080 --> 01:28:52.080
+but it really does apply to a lot of different things another example in the scientific community
+
+01:28:52.080 --> 01:28:57.080
+has been the work that alpha fold you know that basically the folks at DeepMind have done
+
+01:28:57.080 --> 01:29:02.080
+on protein fold it's you know just basically a lot of the same model architecture but instead
+
+01:29:02.080 --> 01:29:06.080
+of language there they fold it they kind of fed in all of these protein data and you can
+
+01:29:06.080 --> 01:29:10.080
+give it a state and it can spit out solutions to how those proteins get folded so it can
+
+01:29:10.080 --> 01:29:14.080
+fit out solutions and then those solutions still have to be checked in the real world against
+
+01:29:14.080 --> 01:29:20.080
+the real background the specific ribosomes you're using and the specific RNA transcript you're
+
+01:29:20.080 --> 01:29:28.080
+using in the specific cell type you're using you're lying oversimplifying jackass with
+
+01:29:28.080 --> 01:29:34.080
+no respect for the sacred biology of a human screw you it's very powerful I don't think
+
+01:29:34.080 --> 01:29:40.080
+we know yet as an industry what the what the natural limits of it are and that that's
+
+01:29:40.080 --> 01:29:44.080
+one of the things that's pretty exciting about the current state but it certainly allows you
+
+01:29:44.080 --> 01:29:49.080
+to solve problems that just weren't solved with the generation of machine learning that came
+
+01:29:49.080 --> 01:29:54.080
+before it sounds like CZI is moving a lot of work that was just done in vitro in dishes
+
+01:29:54.080 --> 01:30:01.080
+and in vivo in living organisms model organisms are humans to in silico as we say so do you
+
+01:30:01.080 --> 01:30:07.080
+foresee a future where a lot of biomedical research certainly that the work of CZI included
+
+01:30:07.080 --> 01:30:12.080
+is done by machines I mean obviously it's much lower cost and you can run millions of experiments
+
+01:30:12.080 --> 01:30:16.080
+which of course is not to say that humans are not going to be involved but I love the idea
+
+01:30:16.080 --> 01:30:22.080
+that we can run experiments in silico and mass I think the in silica experiments are going
+
+01:30:22.080 --> 01:30:30.080
+to be incredibly helpful to test things quickly to cheaply into just unleash a lot of creativity
+
+01:30:30.080 --> 01:30:34.080
+I do think you need to be very careful about making sure it still translates and unleash
+
+01:30:34.080 --> 01:30:46.080
+creativity is rich people talk for wasting people's time matches this humans you know one thing that's funny
+
+01:30:46.080 --> 01:30:52.080
+in basic sciences we've basically cured every single disease and mice like mice have we know what's
+
+01:30:52.080 --> 01:30:57.080
+going on when they have a number of diseases because they're used as a model organism but they are not
+
+01:30:57.080 --> 01:31:05.080
+used in a lot of times that research is relevant that is such a lie you want to know the truth
+
+01:31:05.080 --> 01:31:10.080
+about laboratory mice almost every laboratory mouse if you let them live long they die of cancer
+
+01:31:10.080 --> 01:31:17.080
+that's what they die of all of the inbred mice in the lab die of cancer all of them
+
+01:31:17.080 --> 01:31:25.080
+and I'm going to vomit a little bit in my throat when I say this but actually the person who
+
+01:31:25.080 --> 01:31:31.080
+is largely responsible for this story is Brett Weinstein the only scientific paper he ever really
+
+01:31:31.080 --> 01:31:37.080
+did looked at and made a prediction that it might be that because we're in breeding these mice and
+
+01:31:37.080 --> 01:31:43.080
+we're always killing them before they're very old that we might not really be selecting for mice
+
+01:31:43.080 --> 01:31:49.080
+that can fight cancer it turns out it seems like he was kind of right that almost all laboratory
+
+01:31:49.080 --> 01:31:54.080
+mice that are inbred die of cancer if you let them because of their telomeres and something else they
+
+01:31:54.080 --> 01:32:00.080
+don't seem to have any cancer fighting mechanisms really left over after all this inbreeding
+
+01:32:00.080 --> 01:32:07.080
+so we know how to cure all the diseases in mice we know how to cure all the diseases in mice
+
+01:32:07.080 --> 01:32:19.080
+as Dr Priscilla Chan I'm going to rewind it just so you can hear how just absolutely stupid she
+
+01:32:19.080 --> 01:32:24.080
+thinks we are in silica experiments are going to be incredibly helpful to test things quickly
+
+01:32:24.080 --> 01:32:31.080
+to cheaply into just unleash a lot of creativity I do think you need to be very careful about
+
+01:32:31.080 --> 01:32:38.080
+making sure it still translates and matches this humans you know one thing that's funny in basic
+
+01:32:38.080 --> 01:32:43.080
+sciences we've basically cured every single disease in mice like mice have we know what's going on
+
+01:32:43.080 --> 01:32:48.080
+when they have a number of diseases because they're used as a model organism but they are not humans
+
+01:32:48.080 --> 01:32:54.080
+and a lot of times that research is relevant but not directly one to one translatable to human
+
+01:32:54.080 --> 01:33:00.080
+not directly one to one translatable you mean mice lie monkeys mislead and the only way to know what happens
+
+01:33:00.080 --> 01:33:08.080
+in a human is a human or something like that now you're making it a little grayer we cured all the diseases in mice
+
+01:33:08.080 --> 01:33:15.080
+can somebody please take away her medical degree can someone please take away her keys to the car
+
+01:33:15.080 --> 01:33:23.080
+she does not belong distributing money to scientists and encouraging people to do work if this is the kind of
+
+01:33:23.080 --> 01:33:31.080
+understanding she has of the pattern integrity that is the human being this is just disgusting
+
+01:33:35.080 --> 01:33:40.080
+so you just have to be really careful about making sure that it actually works for humans
+
+01:33:41.080 --> 01:33:46.080
+sounds like what CZI is doing is actually creating a new field as I'm hearing all of this
+
+01:33:46.080 --> 01:33:52.080
+I'm thinking okay this transcends immunology department you know cardiothoracic surgery I mean neuroscience
+
+01:33:52.080 --> 01:33:57.080
+the idea of a new field where you certainly embrace the realities of universities and laboratories because that's where
+
+01:33:57.080 --> 01:34:02.080
+most of the work that you're funding is done is that right so maybe we need to think about what it means to do
+
+01:34:02.080 --> 01:34:07.080
+science differently and I think that's one of the things that's most exciting and along those lines it seems that
+
+01:34:07.080 --> 01:34:13.080
+being together a lot of different types of people different major institutions is going to be especially important
+
+01:34:13.080 --> 01:34:20.080
+so I know that the initial CZI bio hub gratefully included Stanford we'll put that first in the list
+
+01:34:20.080 --> 01:34:27.080
+but also UCSF forgive me many friends at UCSF and also Berkeley but there are now some additional institutions
+
+01:34:27.080 --> 01:34:31.080
+involved so maybe you talk about that and what motivated the decision to branch outside the bay area
+
+01:34:31.080 --> 01:34:36.080
+and and why you selected those particular additional institutions to be included
+
+01:34:36.080 --> 01:34:41.080
+well I'll just say part of a big part of why we wanted to create additional bio hubs is we were just so impressed
+
+01:34:41.080 --> 01:34:47.080
+by the work that the folks who are running the first bio hub did and I also think and you should walk through the work
+
+01:34:47.080 --> 01:34:51.080
+of the Chicago bio hub and the New York bio hub that we just announced but I think it's actually an interesting
+
+01:34:51.080 --> 01:34:58.080
+set of examples that balance the limits of what you want to do with like physical material engineering
+
+01:34:58.080 --> 01:35:04.080
+and and and where things are purely biological because the Chicago team is really building more sensors to build
+
+01:35:04.080 --> 01:35:09.080
+understand what's going on your body but that's more of like a physical oh the Chicago team is building sensors
+
+01:35:09.080 --> 01:35:15.080
+to collect data from your body no I see where we're going but you knew that already right
+
+01:35:15.080 --> 01:35:25.080
+I mean does it surprise you I shouldn't surprise you we've been talking about them chipping you for the last three years
+
+01:35:26.080 --> 01:35:31.080
+you don't think they're just going to chip you to put your money in your hand do you that would be a waste of time
+
+01:35:31.080 --> 01:35:34.080
+of course they're going to put a sensor in there
+
+01:35:34.080 --> 01:35:40.080
+engineering challenge whereas the the New York team we basically talk about this is like a cellular endoscope
+
+01:35:40.080 --> 01:35:46.080
+of being able to have like an immune cell or something that can go and understand you know what is like what's the thing
+
+01:35:46.080 --> 01:35:50.080
+that's going on in your body but it's not like a physical piece of hardware it's a cell that you can basically
+
+01:35:50.080 --> 01:35:56.080
+you know have have just go report out on on on different things that are happening inside the body so you should sell the microscope
+
+01:35:56.080 --> 01:36:06.080
+totally they're talking about making a cell that can report what's going on in the body to make a cell into a microscope
+
+01:36:06.080 --> 01:36:16.080
+and she says totally seriously your body but it's not like a physical piece of hardware it's a cell that you can basically
+
+01:36:16.080 --> 01:36:22.080
+you know have have just go report out on on different things that are happening inside the body so you should sell the microscope
+
+01:36:22.080 --> 01:36:26.080
+totally and then and then eventually actually being able to act on it but I mean but you should you should go into more detail
+
+01:36:26.080 --> 01:36:33.080
+on all this so a core principle of how we think about bio hubs it is that it has to be when we invited proposals it has to be at least
+
+01:36:33.080 --> 01:36:40.080
+three institutions so really breaking down the barrier of a single university oftentimes asking for the people designing the
+
+01:36:40.080 --> 01:36:48.080
+research aim to come from all different backgrounds and to explain why that the problem that they want to solve requires interdisciplinary
+
+01:36:48.080 --> 01:36:56.080
+inter-university institution collaboration to actually make happen we just put that request for proposal out there with our San Francisco
+
+01:36:56.080 --> 01:37:05.080
+bio hub as an example where they've done incredible work in single cell biology and infectious disease and we got I want to say like 57 proposals
+
+01:37:05.080 --> 01:37:15.080
+from over 150 institutions a lot of ideas came together and you know we are so so excited that we've been able to launch Chicago and New York
+
+01:37:15.080 --> 01:37:22.080
+Chicago is a collaboration between UIUC, University of Illinois, Urina Champaign and University of Chicago and Northwestern
+
+01:37:22.080 --> 01:37:29.080
+and if I obviously these universities are multifaceted but if I were to describe them by their like stereotypical strength
+
+01:37:29.080 --> 01:37:39.080
+Northwestern has an incredible medical system and hospital system University of Chicago brings to the table incredible basic science strengths
+
+01:37:39.080 --> 01:37:47.080
+University of Illinois is a computing powerhouse and so they came together and proposed that they were going to start thinking about cells in tissue
+
+01:37:47.080 --> 01:37:55.080
+so that one of the one of the layers that you just alluded to so how do the cells that we know behave and act differently when they come together as a
+
+01:37:55.080 --> 01:38:03.080
+tissue and the first one of the first tissues that they're starting with is skin so they've been already been able to as a collaboration under the leadership of Shana Kelly design
+
+01:38:03.080 --> 01:38:18.080
+art of engineered skin tissue the architecture looks the same as what's in you and I and what they've done is built these super super thin sensors and they embed these sensors throughout the layers of this engineered tissue
+
+01:38:18.080 --> 01:38:26.080
+and they read out the data they want to see how these cells what these cells are secreting how these cells talk to each other and what happens when these cells get inflamed
+
+01:38:26.080 --> 01:38:35.080
+inflammation is an incredibly important process that drives 50% of all deaths and so this is another sort of disease agnostic approach we want to understand inflammation
+
+01:38:35.080 --> 01:38:46.080
+and they're going to get a ton of information out from these sensors that tell you what happens when something goes awry because right now we can say like when you have an allergic reaction your skin gets red and puffy
+
+01:38:46.080 --> 01:38:57.080
+what is the earliest signal of that and these sensors can look at the behaviors of these cells over time and then you can apply a large language model to look at the earliest statistically significant changes
+
+01:38:57.080 --> 01:39:12.080
+always about technology implanted and then AI data collection it's always about that even if we already knew how cells work or how skin works
+
+01:39:12.080 --> 01:39:26.080
+it's not like we never studied it before they are not trying to understand how skin works they're trying to understand how to measure how skin works
+
+01:39:26.080 --> 01:39:42.080
+that they can then measure you these are products that they plan to put in every person they're not doing skin in a laboratory so they can understand skin in a laboratory so they never have to study you
+
+01:39:42.080 --> 01:39:53.080
+this is dual use stuff here this is big time this is for your children that's the plan
+
+01:39:53.080 --> 01:40:09.080
+and she's talking about inflammation curing all disease would really I would assume revolve around understanding the immune system yet for some reason in this talk this is the first time the immune system has ever even really come on the scene
+
+01:40:09.080 --> 01:40:18.080
+but they're gonna cure all diseases by looking at all the cells in the body well yeah the immune system does inflammation too
+
+01:40:18.080 --> 01:40:28.080
+that can allow you to intervene as early as possible so that that's what Chicago's doing they're starting in the skin cells they're also looking at the neuromuscular junction
+
+01:40:28.080 --> 01:40:37.080
+which is the connection between where a neuron attaches to a muscle and tells a muscle how to behave super important in things like ALS but also in aging
+
+01:40:37.080 --> 01:40:44.080
+the slowed transmission of information across that neuromuscular junction is what causes old people to fall their brain cannot trigger their muscles to react fast enough
+
+01:40:44.080 --> 01:40:52.080
+and so we want to be able to embed these sensors to understand how these different interconnected systems within our bodies work together
+
+01:40:52.080 --> 01:40:59.080
+in New York they're doing I think that's a little weird that he's not on that
+
+01:40:59.080 --> 01:41:10.080
+because the reason why people fall is because they can't activate their muscles so they want to look at neuromuscular junctions it has nothing to do with the neurons that feed down
+
+01:41:10.080 --> 01:41:21.080
+it's really the neuromuscular junction it's not neurons in the brain that are incapable of activating the neurofibers that lead to the muscle
+
+01:41:22.080 --> 01:41:31.080
+that's a pretty gigantic assumption that I'm almost certain is wrong and I'm almost certain that Huberman could correct her on it but he doesn't want to embarrass her
+
+01:41:31.080 --> 01:41:41.080
+he doesn't want to embarrass her by saying that your dumb simple model of why old people fall is really like ignoring all three trillion brain cells
+
+01:41:41.080 --> 01:41:46.080
+if you're looking at the neuromuscular junction
+
+01:41:46.080 --> 01:41:53.080
+is it really because acetylcholine isn't released on time? has nothing to do with the processing up here?
+
+01:41:53.080 --> 01:42:01.080
+I mean that kind of statement alone can show you exactly how compromised this whole podcast is
+
+01:42:01.080 --> 01:42:09.080
+he's done four commercials for products and he's basically asked one hard question that they didn't answer
+
+01:42:10.080 --> 01:42:20.080
+and since then he's kind of been capitulating and asking increasingly weaker questions that really are just compliments like I think you guys are inventing a whole new field
+
+01:42:20.080 --> 01:42:25.080
+why don't you just ask him out for dinner?
+
+01:42:25.080 --> 01:42:37.080
+a related but equally exciting project where they're engineering individual cells to be able to go in and identify changes in a human body
+
+01:42:37.080 --> 01:42:44.080
+so what they'll do is they're calling it a while I mean I love it I mean this is I don't want to go on attention
+
+01:42:44.080 --> 01:42:50.080
+but for those that want to look at adaptive optics you know there's a lot of distortion and interference when you try and look at something really small they're really far away
+
+01:42:50.080 --> 01:43:00.080
+and really smart physicists figured out well use the interference as part of the microscope make those actually lenses of the microscope
+
+01:43:00.080 --> 01:43:04.080
+it's extremely clever along those lines it's not intuitive but then when you hear it it's like it makes so much sense
+
+01:43:04.080 --> 01:43:09.080
+you know it's not immediately intuitive make the cells that are already can navigate to tissues or embed themselves in tissues
+
+01:43:09.080 --> 01:43:11.080
+be the microscope within that tissue I love it
+
+01:43:11.080 --> 01:43:17.080
+the way that I explain this to my friends and my family is this is fantastic voyage but real life
+
+01:43:17.080 --> 01:43:23.080
+like we are going into the human body and we're using the immune cells which you know are privileged and already working to keep your body healthy
+
+01:43:23.080 --> 01:43:31.080
+and being able to target them to examine certain things so like you can engineer an immune cell to go in your body and look inside your coronary arteries
+
+01:43:31.080 --> 01:43:36.080
+and say are these arteries healthy or are there plaques because plaques lead to it
+
+01:43:36.080 --> 01:43:42.080
+wow so that's a really interesting statement and the cell can then record that information and report it back up
+
+01:43:42.080 --> 01:43:44.080
+that's the first half of the New York biohub is going to do
+
+01:43:44.080 --> 01:43:55.080
+fantastic so that's an interesting thing she says that you can program immune cells to go places and then report back what they find
+
+01:43:55.080 --> 01:44:01.080
+now that's some pretty impressive biology I'm gonna have to investigate that claim
+
+01:44:01.080 --> 01:44:08.080
+because what she just described there sounds an awful lot like they know exactly how the immune system works and can make it bend to their will
+
+01:44:08.080 --> 01:44:15.080
+to examine certain things so like you can engineer an immune cell to go in your body and look inside your coronary arteries
+
+01:44:15.080 --> 01:44:22.080
+and say are these arteries healthy or are there plaques because plaques lead to blockage which lead to heart attacks
+
+01:44:22.080 --> 01:44:28.080
+and the cell can then record that information and report it back up that's the first half of the New York biohub is going to do
+
+01:44:28.080 --> 01:44:33.080
+the second half is can you then engineer the cells to go do something about it can I then tell a different cell
+
+01:44:33.080 --> 01:44:41.080
+I mean cell that is able to transport in your body to go in and clean that up in a targeted way and so it's incredibly exciting
+
+01:44:41.080 --> 01:44:49.080
+they're gonna study things that are sort of immune privilege that your immune system normally doesn't have access to things like ovarian and pancreatic cancer
+
+01:44:49.080 --> 01:44:57.080
+they'll also look at a number of neurodegenerative diseases since the immune system doesn't it's not really sounding like she's gonna cure all diseases
+
+01:44:57.080 --> 01:45:05.080
+it sounds like she's gonna work on some really hard ones someone with really obvious solutions or really obvious phenotypes
+
+01:45:05.080 --> 01:45:16.080
+it sounds like basically the title of this podcast and the claim that they make in the beginning is just elaborate forward thinking statements
+
+01:45:16.080 --> 01:45:22.080
+that may or may not be accurate
+
+01:45:22.080 --> 01:45:35.080
+they just seem like statements that are designed to bamboozle the average person the average carpenter plumber teacher into believing that these ultra smart people with their big words
+
+01:45:35.080 --> 01:45:46.080
+are so far ahead of us and we might as well just sit back and put more pop tarts in the toaster and log into Netflix
+
+01:45:46.080 --> 01:45:57.080
+because you know Robert Malone and Steve Kirsch got the mRNA all wrapped up and AI and everything is and the future of public health is already taken care of by Amazon Health
+
+01:45:57.080 --> 01:46:06.080
+and Zuckerberg and Free Speech is already controlled by Elon Musk so everything is fine what do I gotta do?
+
+01:46:06.080 --> 01:46:21.080
+Our children are under attack by these people our children are who they want slowly but surely they are going to separate us from our children by telling our children that our parents
+
+01:46:21.080 --> 01:46:33.080
+our skeptical parents are wrong our skeptical parents are selfish our skeptical parents should take our booster and shut up
+
+01:46:33.080 --> 01:46:46.080
+ladies and gentlemen strokes around the world among young people are on the rise and there is no explanation except for transfection
+
+01:46:46.080 --> 01:46:49.080
+and these people don't care
+
+01:46:49.080 --> 01:47:11.080
+SIDS deaths are on a rise and people don't care heart attacks are on the rise cancers on the rise auto immune diseases are on the rise and these people don't care because they're going to cure all disease
+
+01:47:11.080 --> 01:47:27.080
+and we have a ton of access into the nervous system but they it's it's both mind blowing and it feels like sci-fi but science is actually in a place where if you really pushed a group of incredibly qualified scientists say could you do this if given the chance the answer is like
+
+01:47:27.080 --> 01:47:40.080
+probably give us enough time the bright team and resources like still give us enough time and a bright team and enough resources in the computing power of the Borg and yeah we can figure out the genome sure no problem
+
+01:47:40.080 --> 01:47:46.080
+give us all the data from all the babies to be born in the next 20 years
+
+01:47:47.080 --> 01:47:59.080
+give us enough computing power to shove an AI shove it up an AI is backside and yeah we can probably do it but these are forward looking statements so they may not be accurate
+
+01:47:59.080 --> 01:48:14.080
+that's the basic way to summarize this is the basic way to summarize the WEF pitch the the food conferences pitch the TED talks that we see all the time it's all the same nonsense
+
+01:48:14.080 --> 01:48:24.080
+it's all these people saying that if they had enough data and they had enough computers and they had enough iPhones on enough people or enough eyewatches on enough people or enough skin
+
+01:48:24.080 --> 01:48:31.080
+skin detectors in enough people that we would gather enough data that eventually an AI would crack the puzzle
+
+01:48:31.080 --> 01:48:44.080
+it is absolutely no different than saying that if the AI plays enough go games it becomes a go master except this isn't go or chess
+
+01:48:44.080 --> 01:48:49.080
+it's a pattern integrity that lives between 80 and 100 years
+
+01:48:49.080 --> 01:49:03.080
+whose internal metabolic pathways and interactions are at best rudimentary understood
+
+01:49:03.080 --> 01:49:11.080
+the arrogance that's on display here and and quite frankly the submission that's on display here is really gross
+
+01:49:11.080 --> 01:49:24.080
+because Huberman I thought had a little more respect for the sacredness of the brain for the most unlockable secrets that are probably in the brain
+
+01:49:24.080 --> 01:49:34.080
+and the idea that the the emergent properties of a pattern integrity are the hardest things to understand and the emergent properties are life
+
+01:49:34.080 --> 01:49:49.080
+the emergent property is behavior the emergent property is consciousness and so to understand the emergent properties of a pattern integrity you can't be a splitter
+
+01:49:49.080 --> 01:49:58.080
+and take it into part all all its little parts and try to understand all the little details of all the little parts and then think at some point if you understand enough of those details
+
+01:49:58.080 --> 01:50:11.080
+that you're going to understand how they sum together because that's not how this works we may never be able to understand how it sums together
+
+01:50:11.080 --> 01:50:24.080
+and we're certainly not going to understand how it sums together if the observations that we're making are made on a population that's completely messed up and destroyed by toxins
+
+01:50:24.080 --> 01:50:41.080
+and by poisons and lack of proper physical behavior what are we going to really learn about the potential of the human genome if we study a bunch of people that are fat lazy and malnourished
+
+01:50:42.080 --> 01:50:55.080
+never mind if we study people that are 20 years fat lazy and malnourished what do we really understand what are we going to understand about the human genomes capabilities and possibilities when we study that
+
+01:50:55.080 --> 01:51:04.080
+what would we really learn about automobiles if we only went to use car lots
+
+01:51:04.080 --> 01:51:18.080
+what would we really know about dogs if the only thing we ever studied were I don't know I mean that's that's the best one what would we know about cars if we only went to use car lots
+
+01:51:18.080 --> 01:51:26.080
+would we really figure out a lot about how cars work we went to a junkyard
+
+01:51:27.080 --> 01:51:32.080
+no matter how much data we gathered from a junkyard would we really understand how a car works
+
+01:51:35.080 --> 01:51:41.080
+and so you have to also see that from that perspective that this population is kind of useless
+
+01:51:42.080 --> 01:51:50.080
+except for with regard to like understanding how RNA gets translated or how RNA might work maybe we need a lot of examples of that maybe that's what they're doing
+
+01:51:51.080 --> 01:52:00.080
+but I mean if they're not going to start with let's make the population as healthy as possible before we start measuring what the genome does that's pretty stupid
+
+01:52:07.080 --> 01:52:13.080
+but that shows you really what we're dealing with here shows you what kind of bamboozlement what kind of snake oil this is
+
+01:52:14.080 --> 01:52:24.080
+there's people waving their hand and talking big smack about large language models being able to solve the problem of the biological pattern integrity that is a human
+
+01:52:26.080 --> 01:52:38.080
+there is no reverence for the sacred here there's no married couple here these are not two people in love these are two people lying
+
+01:52:39.080 --> 01:52:44.080
+as part of a governance structure to control the world but more specifically the United States
+
+01:52:45.080 --> 01:52:48.080
+we are under the control of liars
+
+01:52:50.080 --> 01:52:57.080
+and we've been under control of liars since before the pandemic but now the pandemic has made it obvious
+
+01:52:58.080 --> 01:53:13.080
+yeah I mean it's a 10 to 15 year project yeah but it's it's awesome engineered cells yeah I love the optimism and and the moment you said make the cell the microscope so sweet I was like yes yes and yes it just makes so much sense
+
+01:53:14.080 --> 01:53:20.080
+how does it make sense Huberman explain to me how that works make the cell the microscope
+
+01:53:20.080 --> 01:53:27.080
+I mean that's just that's part of it it sounds like such a great idea you know but I mean he's smart enough to know that that doesn't make any sense he's smart enough to know to ask one question better than that like how does the cell report it back how do you read it out for example the the example that you gave you send it to the coronary artery to find if there's a plaque how does the how does the immune system
+
+01:53:50.080 --> 01:54:19.080
+report back to you and tell you that there is a plaque there is that a hard question to ask is that not the most obvious question after someone brags like that after someone lays out this ridiculously cool idea like I'm going to reprogram an immune cell to be a to be a little spy for me and to go into immune privilege places and come back and tell me what it found and you don't even at least have the biological background Dr. Huberman to ask her a follow up question exactly what it's going to do with it.
+
+01:54:20.080 --> 01:54:31.080
+Exactly how does that work is it a B cell it is a T cell a macrophage what are you sending up there in a scene of Phil.
+
+01:54:31.080 --> 01:54:35.080
+I really liked this guy until this interview.
+
+01:54:35.080 --> 01:54:46.080
+I really liked a lot of things he has to say about motivation and effort and stoicism and exercise and nutrition and sleep.
+
+01:54:46.080 --> 01:55:00.080
+It was all of that stuff that really fundamentally good biology on you to be just selling it all down the river because of these two rich head celebrities.
+
+01:55:00.080 --> 01:55:05.080
+It is absolutely pathetic I'm ashamed of him.
+
+01:55:06.080 --> 01:55:13.080
+It is a very interesting decision to do this in the context of an existing framework of graduate students that need to do a thesis and get a first author paper.
+
+01:55:13.080 --> 01:55:28.080
+There is a whole set of structures within academia that I think both facilitate but also limit the progression of science that independent investigator model that we talked about a little bit earlier.
+
+01:55:28.080 --> 01:55:42.080
+It is so core to the way science has been done this is very different and frankly sounds far more efficient if I'm to be completely honest and you know we'll see if I renew my NIH funding after saying that.
+
+01:55:42.080 --> 01:55:46.080
+But I think we all want the same thing we all want to as scientists and most ways science.
+
+01:55:46.080 --> 01:55:57.080
+That independent investigator model that we talked about a little bit earlier it is so core to the way science has been done this is very different and frankly sounds far more efficient if I'm to be completely honest and you know we'll see if I renew my NIH funding after saying that.
+
+01:55:58.080 --> 01:56:11.080
+How is it far more efficient to have to not have individuals thinking what does he think of himself if he says that far more efficient to do what to.
+
+01:56:11.080 --> 01:56:17.080
+To organize people around around money how is this any more efficient than what the NIH does.
+
+01:56:18.080 --> 01:56:22.080
+Just individuals versus groups all behaving the same way then.
+
+01:56:22.080 --> 01:56:29.080
+Let's get even more people together thinking the same with the same biases as they investigate a scientific problem.
+
+01:56:29.080 --> 01:56:34.080
+You see how stupid that sounds.
+
+01:56:34.080 --> 01:56:41.080
+Rather than having independent investigators working tirelessly against and competing with one another.
+
+01:56:41.080 --> 01:56:49.080
+Essentially checking each other's work to try and make that experiment happen first or that discovery first.
+
+01:56:49.080 --> 01:56:58.080
+Trying to undermine each other to make sure that that person is lying and not lying or not falsely misrepresenting his results.
+
+01:56:58.080 --> 01:57:06.080
+There's a lot to be gained by independent science and independent labs and independent principal investigators.
+
+01:57:06.080 --> 01:57:18.080
+That gets lost when you say let's all write a grant together under the pretense that we're all interested in the same goal and answering the same questions and getting the same answer.
+
+01:57:18.080 --> 01:57:23.080
+That's the kind of thing they're laughing about right now it's not a more efficient system.
+
+01:57:23.080 --> 01:57:33.080
+It's a more efficient system to get people to think the same way but it's a far less efficient system if you want to get people to explore novel hypotheses
+
+01:57:33.080 --> 01:57:38.080
+and steer away from a consensus that's created by rich people who don't know enough.
+
+01:57:38.080 --> 01:57:40.080
+Let's discuss.
+
+01:57:40.080 --> 01:57:50.080
+We all want the same thing we all want as scientists and as humans we want to understand the way we work and we want healthy people to persist to be healthy and we want sick people to get healthy.
+
+01:57:50.080 --> 01:57:53.080
+That's really ultimately the goal it's not super complicated it's just hard to do.
+
+01:57:53.080 --> 01:58:03.080
+So the teams at the Biohub are actually independent of the universities so each Biohub will probably have in total maybe 50 people working on sort of deep efforts.
+
+01:58:03.080 --> 01:58:14.080
+However it's an acknowledgement that not all the best scientists who can contribute to this area are actually going to one want to leave a university or want to take on the full-time scope of this project.
+
+01:58:15.080 --> 01:58:26.080
+So it's the ability to partner with universities and to have the faculty at all the universities be able to contribute to the overall project is how the Biohub is structured.
+
+01:58:26.080 --> 01:58:27.080
+Got it.
+
+01:58:27.080 --> 01:58:39.080
+But a lot of the way that we're approaching CZI is this long-term iterative project to try a bunch of different things, figure out which things produce the most interesting results and then double down on those in the next five-year push.
+
+01:58:39.080 --> 01:58:44.080
+So we just went through this period where we kind of wrapped up the first five years of the science program.
+
+01:58:44.080 --> 01:58:48.080
+We tried a lot of different models right all kinds of different things and it's not that the Biohub model.
+
+01:58:48.080 --> 01:58:59.080
+We don't think it's like the best or only model but we found that it was sort of a really interesting way to unlock a bunch of collaboration and bring some technical resources that allow for this longer-term development.
+
+01:58:59.080 --> 01:59:04.080
+And it's not something that is widely being pursued across the rest of the field.
+
+01:59:04.080 --> 01:59:07.080
+We figured, okay, this is like an interesting thing that we can help push on.
+
+01:59:07.080 --> 01:59:10.080
+But I mean, yeah, we do believe in the collaboration.
+
+01:59:10.080 --> 01:59:17.080
+But I also think that we come at this with, you know, we don't think that the way that we're pursuing this is like the only way to do this or the way that everyone should do it.
+
+01:59:17.080 --> 01:59:23.080
+We're pretty aware of, you know, that, you know, what is the rest of the ecosystem and how we can play a unique role in it.
+
+01:59:23.080 --> 01:59:25.080
+It feels very synergistic with the wayside.
+
+01:59:25.080 --> 01:59:30.080
+It's noticed that he has carnival hands, he has little tiny hands, little carny hands.
+
+01:59:30.080 --> 01:59:34.080
+That's why he keeps them on his lap because they're so tiny.
+
+01:59:34.080 --> 01:59:43.080
+Little tiny hands with no calluses and no fingernails, like one thin layer of skin, right?
+
+01:59:43.080 --> 01:59:48.080
+Because he's never actually had any friction, except for with keyboard keys.
+
+01:59:48.080 --> 01:59:53.080
+It's already done and also fills in incredibly important niche that frankly wasn't filled before.
+
+01:59:53.080 --> 01:59:55.080
+Along the lines of implementation.
+
+01:59:55.080 --> 02:00:06.080
+So let's say your large language models combined with imaging tools reveal that a particular set of genes acting in a cluster, I don't know, set up an organ crash.
+
+02:00:06.080 --> 02:00:10.080
+Let's say the pancreas crashes at a particular stage of pancreatic cancer.
+
+02:00:10.080 --> 02:00:15.080
+I mean, still one of the most deadlies of the cancers and there are others that you certainly wouldn't want to get.
+
+02:00:15.080 --> 02:00:18.080
+But that's among the ones you wouldn't want to get the most.
+
+02:00:18.080 --> 02:00:26.080
+And then the idea is that, okay, then AI reveals some potential drug targets, then bare out in vitro, in a dish and in a mouse model.
+
+02:00:26.080 --> 02:00:29.080
+How is the actual implementation to drug discovery?
+
+02:00:29.080 --> 02:00:33.080
+Or maybe this target is druggable, maybe it's not, maybe it requires some other approach.
+
+02:00:33.080 --> 02:00:44.080
+So here is Huberman again, playing into the product discovery idea of this model instead of the, how do we figure out how to make people optimally healthy?
+
+02:00:44.080 --> 02:00:51.080
+Not one single discussion about nutrition at baseline health.
+
+02:00:51.080 --> 02:00:57.080
+We are talking about curing diseases, not about making people healthy.
+
+02:00:57.080 --> 02:01:00.080
+We like people just the way they are.
+
+02:01:00.080 --> 02:01:05.080
+Because they've got plenty of problems and plenty of potential for profit.
+
+02:01:05.080 --> 02:01:07.080
+So we're not interested in improving people.
+
+02:01:07.080 --> 02:01:14.080
+We're interested in improving the way that we cure people, the way that we treat people, the way that we extract wealth from people.
+
+02:01:14.080 --> 02:01:25.080
+We are interested in increasing the amount of time that we need to interact with them medically so that we can extract as much data from their children as possible in the coming generations.
+
+02:01:25.080 --> 02:01:31.080
+There aren't going to be 10 billion on people on the planet forever, ladies and gentlemen, and these people know it.
+
+02:01:31.080 --> 02:01:41.080
+Because these people are part of a group of people that has a plan to make sure that in the coming generations there aren't 10 billion people anymore.
+
+02:01:41.080 --> 02:01:48.080
+That's why these same people aren't telling you that our population in pyramid is almost inverted now.
+
+02:01:48.080 --> 02:01:59.080
+That's why these same people aren't talking about Japan's population pyramid or China's population pyramid and what that means in 50 years for the population of the planet.
+
+02:01:59.080 --> 02:02:05.080
+None of them actually want to tell you that they know already the demographics of the planet are going to crash.
+
+02:02:05.080 --> 02:02:09.080
+And they know the consequences of that are going to be severe.
+
+02:02:09.080 --> 02:02:18.080
+And that they're going to be able to use all kinds of the problems that are caused by this demographic crash, this change in resources.
+
+02:02:19.080 --> 02:02:29.080
+They're going to be able to use that to coerce our children into accepting digital ID because they will already by then have accepted digital currency.
+
+02:02:29.080 --> 02:02:35.080
+And so by that time it will be a salesman pitch of convenience.
+
+02:02:36.080 --> 02:02:49.080
+I mean, if you've got to carry your digital money around in a little wallet like this, wouldn't it be better to have it on a ring?
+
+02:02:49.080 --> 02:02:52.080
+And then people can steal your ring when you're in the shower.
+
+02:02:52.080 --> 02:02:57.080
+So maybe you should just, you know, put it around your neck and it'll be waterproof.
+
+02:02:57.080 --> 02:03:02.080
+Or maybe we'll just put it under your skin right here by your watch.
+
+02:03:02.080 --> 02:03:05.080
+And then no one can ever steal it. No one can ever fake it. No one can ever.
+
+02:03:05.080 --> 02:03:08.080
+And we will let you use it on the Internet too.
+
+02:03:08.080 --> 02:03:14.080
+So you'll have a sovereign identity on the Internet that will interface with your bank account.
+
+02:03:14.080 --> 02:03:17.080
+And we'll have all your medical data on it. It'll be so convenient.
+
+02:03:17.080 --> 02:03:21.080
+And that way you won't have to have paperwork and passports and all this other stuff.
+
+02:03:21.080 --> 02:03:27.080
+And you can just travel wherever you want if you have the approved numbers.
+
+02:03:27.080 --> 02:03:30.080
+It's all convenient and safe.
+
+02:03:30.080 --> 02:03:36.080
+Because your children are going to be brainwashed into being afraid of anonymous people on the Internet.
+
+02:03:36.080 --> 02:03:45.080
+Your kids are going to be tortured and harassed by anonymous people on the Internet until you beg for ID on the Internet.
+
+02:03:45.080 --> 02:03:52.080
+People's money and banks are going to be contorted and destroyed until people beg for digital currency.
+
+02:03:52.080 --> 02:03:58.080
+They're already talking about a universal basic income in Canada.
+
+02:03:58.080 --> 02:04:02.080
+And they're already talking about a universal basic income in the Netherlands.
+
+02:04:05.080 --> 02:04:11.080
+The craziest part about that is that I have this cousin over in the Netherlands who has been totally on board
+
+02:04:11.080 --> 02:04:15.080
+with everything that I've been saying since the beginning of the pandemic.
+
+02:04:15.080 --> 02:04:25.080
+And suddenly, suddenly, that person is now actively campaigning for a universal basic income in the Netherlands.
+
+02:04:25.080 --> 02:04:28.080
+Like, I couldn't even believe it.
+
+02:04:28.080 --> 02:04:44.080
+After all this time, thinking that he understood exactly what we were up against, he is now on television as part of a political party advocating for universal basic income in the Netherlands.
+
+02:04:45.080 --> 02:04:56.080
+Where that entire society is being torn apart by immigrants and the concessions being made to immigrants and not being made to Dutch citizens, it's extraordinary.
+
+02:04:56.080 --> 02:05:08.080
+A country, a quarter of the size of Pennsylvania was 17 million people in it, accepting thousands of refugees a year.
+
+02:05:09.080 --> 02:05:17.080
+Is looking to start universal basic income. If one EU country starts universal basic income, where does that go?
+
+02:05:17.080 --> 02:05:21.080
+How does that work in a union like that?
+
+02:05:21.080 --> 02:05:25.080
+They are all lost.
+
+02:05:25.080 --> 02:05:28.080
+And we are almost lost.
+
+02:05:28.080 --> 02:05:32.080
+Because we are being governed by people who are not elected.
+
+02:05:33.080 --> 02:05:39.080
+We are being governed by weaponized piles of money like Black Rock State Street, etc.
+
+02:05:39.080 --> 02:05:53.080
+And the people who sit atop those weaponized piles of money like Elon Musk and Peter Teal, Mark Zuckerberg and Priscilla Chan, Bill and Melinda Gates.
+
+02:05:53.080 --> 02:05:58.080
+These weaponized piles of money also include weaponized piles of money in government.
+
+02:05:58.080 --> 02:06:01.080
+That's for sure.
+
+02:06:01.080 --> 02:06:08.080
+But we are pivoting, ladies and gentlemen, we are pivoting to the private weaponized piles of money.
+
+02:06:08.080 --> 02:06:14.080
+We are cau-towing to them. The US government cau-tows to those weaponized piles of money.
+
+02:06:14.080 --> 02:06:26.080
+The Saudis, the Israelis, the private banks, the central banks, the world bank, the international bank of settlements.
+
+02:06:26.080 --> 02:06:35.080
+These are all groups of people with more power than our government, because they control our government.
+
+02:06:35.080 --> 02:06:43.080
+And so we all need to wake up and apologize for having been asleep at the wheel and for losing control of our nation.
+
+02:06:43.080 --> 02:06:49.080
+And now we need to put our big boy pants on and take our nation back.
+
+02:06:49.080 --> 02:06:55.080
+From people that are liars, it should be very easy because they are just liars.
+
+02:06:55.080 --> 02:07:00.080
+That's all they are liars.
+
+02:07:00.080 --> 02:07:05.080
+Liars liars liars. And the liars have worked on one thing in particular.
+
+02:07:05.080 --> 02:07:12.080
+They've worked on an illusion of consensus about pandemic potential.
+
+02:07:12.080 --> 02:07:16.080
+And Zuckerberg and Chan, they agree fully with this pandemic potential.
+
+02:07:16.080 --> 02:07:19.080
+They agree that the millions were killed by the virus.
+
+02:07:19.080 --> 02:07:25.080
+They agree that the mRNA saved people. They won't question any of that, of course.
+
+02:07:25.080 --> 02:07:28.080
+And so they are a part of this illusion of consensus.
+
+02:07:28.080 --> 02:07:32.080
+Just the fact that they had that podcast about biology and public health
+
+02:07:32.080 --> 02:07:38.080
+and had no mention of a pandemic or the vaccines, except to say that as Mark said,
+
+02:07:38.080 --> 02:07:44.080
+we had to have vaccines before we could cure things.
+
+02:07:44.080 --> 02:07:48.080
+This illusion of consensus that this immunomythology makes any sense.
+
+02:07:48.080 --> 02:07:52.080
+This is all part of that.
+
+02:07:52.080 --> 02:07:54.080
+And so I've explained this many times.
+
+02:07:54.080 --> 02:08:00.080
+They've declared a dangerous novel virus detectable by a PCR test.
+
+02:08:00.080 --> 02:08:04.080
+But I think it's important that we think about it this way.
+
+02:08:04.080 --> 02:08:10.080
+If there was a mystery virus that is encoded by that red curve down here,
+
+02:08:10.080 --> 02:08:13.080
+we need to do some math on that.
+
+02:08:13.080 --> 02:08:18.080
+And I think that all of the liars in this theater do not do this math.
+
+02:08:18.080 --> 02:08:26.080
+So if you want to know what the real total excess deaths that the mystery virus caused,
+
+02:08:26.080 --> 02:08:32.080
+you need to take and figure out what the excess deaths are here as a total.
+
+02:08:32.080 --> 02:08:35.080
+And then from that total subtract the following.
+
+02:08:35.080 --> 02:08:40.080
+You need to subtract all the people that were killed in New York City, not by a virus,
+
+02:08:40.080 --> 02:08:43.080
+including do not resuscitate orders.
+
+02:08:43.080 --> 02:08:50.080
+And everywhere around the United States in the world where that was done because of a deadly virus that they didn't want to spread.
+
+02:08:50.080 --> 02:08:55.080
+You need to subtract from that all the people that were ventilated that shouldn't have been ventilated.
+
+02:08:55.080 --> 02:09:01.080
+You need to subtract to them that all of the people that didn't get antibiotics that should have gotten antibiotics.
+
+02:09:01.080 --> 02:09:10.080
+You need to subtract from that all of the people who were either given steroids inappropriately or not given steroids when they were appropriate.
+
+02:09:10.080 --> 02:09:19.080
+You need to subtract all of the extra opioid deaths from this excess because everybody that dies of an opioid death is not an expected death.
+
+02:09:19.080 --> 02:09:21.080
+Those are excess deaths.
+
+02:09:21.080 --> 02:09:30.080
+We don't expect 150,000 people to die of opioid deaths and that's not figured into this blue line over here.
+
+02:09:31.080 --> 02:09:47.080
+The change from this pattern that you see year on year on year, this change right here cannot be understood as a pandemic until you remove all of these things and everything else included there.
+
+02:09:49.080 --> 02:09:53.080
+In order to understand where this excess deaths came from.
+
+02:09:54.080 --> 02:10:06.080
+And the curious thing about Denny Rancor's data which is most powerful with regard to this list is that the deaths from COVID in the United States correlate with poverty.
+
+02:10:06.080 --> 02:10:09.080
+You know what else correlates with poverty?
+
+02:10:09.080 --> 02:10:11.080
+Bad treatment in the hospitals.
+
+02:10:11.080 --> 02:10:15.080
+You know what else correlates with poverty? Opioid deaths.
+
+02:10:15.080 --> 02:10:26.080
+And yet they want you to believe that a million people were killed by viruses. Everything else is just normal.
+
+02:10:26.080 --> 02:10:29.080
+And that's the lie.
+
+02:10:29.080 --> 02:10:32.080
+That's the lie that everybody's telling.
+
+02:10:32.080 --> 02:10:41.080
+And it's quite frankly the lie that everybody tells when they say that there's DNA in the shots and so the adulteration is there and therefore we can sue them.
+
+02:10:41.080 --> 02:10:44.080
+Why is that the case?
+
+02:10:44.080 --> 02:10:51.080
+It's a lie because we should never have had the shots in the first place because of this list.
+
+02:10:51.080 --> 02:10:55.080
+This list is the reason why we have the shot.
+
+02:10:55.080 --> 02:10:58.080
+So the shots contaminated big deal.
+
+02:10:58.080 --> 02:11:05.080
+We should have never had the shot if any of you idiots would have spoke up when you should have instead of now about the DNA.
+
+02:11:05.080 --> 02:11:08.080
+But you had spoke up in the beginning.
+
+02:11:08.080 --> 02:11:11.080
+When we knew they were lying we just didn't know how badly.
+
+02:11:11.080 --> 02:11:13.080
+None of this would have happened.
+
+02:11:13.080 --> 02:11:18.080
+If Robert Malone would have pulled his head out in 2020 none of this would have happened.
+
+02:11:18.080 --> 02:11:26.080
+If Steve Kirsch would have pulled his head out in 2020 none of this would have happened.
+
+02:11:26.080 --> 02:11:37.080
+If Brett Weinstein would have pulled his head out maybe none of this would have happened but none of those people that are now leaders of this movement will speak about this list and do this math correctly.
+
+02:11:37.080 --> 02:11:45.080
+Every one of those people says that a million people were killed by a virus.
+
+02:11:45.080 --> 02:11:50.080
+None of those people will do this math and that's why they are liars.
+
+02:11:50.080 --> 02:12:01.080
+And if you're going to focus on the DNA and the shot at least admit that the shot should have never come out in the first place and wouldn't have come out in the first place had they not done these things.
+
+02:12:01.080 --> 02:12:09.080
+Had they not allowed the opioid deaths to go skyrocketing in the United States there wouldn't have been enough excess deaths to make a stink over.
+
+02:12:09.080 --> 02:12:24.080
+If they wouldn't have put enough people on ventilators or stop the use of antibiotics or stop the use of steroids correctly or implemented the use of remdesivir everywhere there wouldn't have been enough excess deaths to blame on anything.
+
+02:12:25.080 --> 02:12:32.080
+There wouldn't be any of that there wouldn't be this part of the graph here.
+
+02:12:32.080 --> 02:12:43.080
+And the reason why is because if you subtract all of these things it goes right back to this seasonal pattern of between 50 and 60,000 deaths per week.
+
+02:12:43.080 --> 02:12:49.080
+The only reason why it's shot up for four weeks in America is because of New York City and a few other places.
+
+02:12:49.080 --> 02:12:56.080
+And the only reason why it's shot up in the next winter is because of these things.
+
+02:12:56.080 --> 02:13:12.080
+Because of the use of a PCR test to convert what would have been just pneumonia and a respiratory disease to something that they knew how to treat incorrectly and had a million different ways of doing it.
+
+02:13:12.080 --> 02:13:18.080
+And the fact of the matter is is that most people can't tell the whole story.
+
+02:13:18.080 --> 02:13:21.080
+They never bothered to.
+
+02:13:21.080 --> 02:13:26.080
+And now that's what you see in spades with this DNA adulteration.
+
+02:13:26.080 --> 02:13:35.080
+They're going to try and pretend the transfection wasn't bad it was the DNA and we know this story already because we did it with spike.
+
+02:13:35.080 --> 02:13:49.080
+We did it with RNA impurities and then we did it with the LNP.
+
+02:13:49.080 --> 02:13:52.080
+This is the way it should have been.
+
+02:13:52.080 --> 02:13:58.080
+And nobody's doing this math because they don't want to admit that there is no excuse.
+
+02:13:58.080 --> 02:14:01.080
+They only excuses were manufactured.
+
+02:14:01.080 --> 02:14:09.080
+The only excuses were fear uncertainty and doubt that drove people to do really stupid things for three years.
+
+02:14:09.080 --> 02:14:19.080
+And I went to a doctor's office today and half the people were wearing masks so this has driven people to do stupid things for three and a half years.
+
+02:14:19.080 --> 02:14:29.080
+People are still confused, still in fear, still frustrated, still having doubts because of the effectiveness of these lies.
+
+02:14:29.080 --> 02:14:37.080
+Because of the effectiveness of this illusion of consensus because of the effectiveness of these liars.
+
+02:14:37.080 --> 02:14:46.080
+Because of the lack of integrity of these liars.
+
+02:14:46.080 --> 02:14:56.080
+They created an illusion of consensus about a mystery that didn't need to be solved and that illusion of consensus created confusion that led us to believe we didn't understand what was going on.
+
+02:14:56.080 --> 02:15:09.080
+And because we didn't understand what was going on doctors followed all kinds of orders they never would have and behaved in ways they never would have had they not been thoroughly lied to.
+
+02:15:09.080 --> 02:15:19.080
+And now I'm not giving doctors on out I'm telling you right now I think every doctor that's going along with this is an idiot.
+
+02:15:19.080 --> 02:15:28.080
+But I also have faith that those people when they figure it out they'll actually realize well I wasn't an idiot just like I was.
+
+02:15:28.080 --> 02:15:35.080
+Just like you got to tell somebody when they're overweight you got to tell people when they're idiots.
+
+02:15:35.080 --> 02:15:42.080
+And some of these these people need to be told that your assumption is that the TV doesn't lie.
+
+02:15:42.080 --> 02:15:46.080
+Your assumption is that trillions of dollars won't make people behave badly.
+
+02:15:46.080 --> 02:15:56.080
+Your assumption is is that power doesn't corrupt.
+
+02:15:56.080 --> 02:16:02.080
+That's the assumption that every skilled TV watcher has now been bamboozled into making.
+
+02:16:02.080 --> 02:16:05.080
+Money doesn't corrupt power doesn't corrupt.
+
+02:16:05.080 --> 02:16:13.080
+There's no incentive to lie and that people would not use lies to govern a world.
+
+02:16:13.080 --> 02:16:17.080
+A planet.
+
+02:16:17.080 --> 02:16:22.080
+But these same people sit on their couch and they know damn well they're being governed.
+
+02:16:22.080 --> 02:16:26.080
+They know damn well they're being governed.
+
+02:16:26.080 --> 02:16:35.080
+They think that Trump lies they think the Democrats lie they think the Republicans lie.
+
+02:16:35.080 --> 02:16:43.080
+It's all a great big show it's an illusion of consensus that makes you believe there's nothing to solve.
+
+02:16:43.080 --> 02:16:45.080
+The way it worked was really simple.
+
+02:16:45.080 --> 02:16:52.080
+They told you there was a lab leak and then they told you it spread around and at the same time they argued about it.
+
+02:16:52.080 --> 02:16:53.080
+They lied about it.
+
+02:16:53.080 --> 02:16:56.080
+They sent emails about it and then redacted the emails.
+
+02:16:56.080 --> 02:17:01.080
+They kept telling you that new variants were circulating as almicron now.
+
+02:17:01.080 --> 02:17:06.080
+Maybe it was released by a good guy to vaccinate the world.
+
+02:17:06.080 --> 02:17:10.080
+And now we hear our whatever variant we are now.
+
+02:17:10.080 --> 02:17:19.080
+In this scenario of course we color the yellow red because the lockdowns hurt some people but it's a gain of function virus.
+
+02:17:19.080 --> 02:17:25.080
+In this scenario we've defeated epidemics in the past using vaccination and there's an illusion of consensus about that.
+
+02:17:25.080 --> 02:17:33.080
+There's an illusion of consensus about pandemic potential and an illusion of consensus about rare false positives with PCR.
+
+02:17:33.080 --> 02:17:43.080
+An illusion of consensus about variants and the fact that the virus might be mutating in response to the RNA because it works so well.
+
+02:17:43.080 --> 02:17:48.080
+And gain of function research is real.
+
+02:17:49.080 --> 02:17:52.080
+The faith is a lie.
+
+02:17:52.080 --> 02:18:01.080
+They've used a conflated background signal to trick people into killing each other and ignoring it.
+
+02:18:01.080 --> 02:18:07.080
+It's a mythology that we are being governed by and the protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine.
+
+02:18:07.080 --> 02:18:11.080
+I believe the best description is probably an infectious clone release.
+
+02:18:11.080 --> 02:18:14.080
+It's the simplest one in my mind.
+
+02:18:15.080 --> 02:18:19.080
+But it could have been a transfection with a different agent in different places.
+
+02:18:19.080 --> 02:18:23.080
+I don't know with that background.
+
+02:18:23.080 --> 02:18:30.080
+I do know for sure that this is not the right answer.
+
+02:18:30.080 --> 02:18:36.080
+And I do know for sure that the players are not addressing these things.
+
+02:18:36.080 --> 02:18:43.080
+I don't know I feel like I'm kind of ending on a weak note but I'm tired and I'm annoyed.
+
+02:18:43.080 --> 02:18:46.080
+And I didn't think I would get so annoyed by Zuckerberg and Chan.
+
+02:18:46.080 --> 02:18:49.080
+I thought it was going to be funnier.
+
+02:18:49.080 --> 02:18:56.080
+But I guess I'm getting more and more insulted by the lack of reverence, the lack of humbleness.
+
+02:18:56.080 --> 02:19:10.080
+And it's a bit like, I don't know, it's hard for me to explain really how sad that kind of thought process makes me.
+
+02:19:10.080 --> 02:19:14.080
+It's a little bit of arrogance and a little bit of naivety and it's a lot of lying.
+
+02:19:14.080 --> 02:19:17.080
+Because I know that they know that they're also lying.
+
+02:19:17.080 --> 02:19:19.080
+They're deceiving children.
+
+02:19:19.080 --> 02:19:23.080
+They're deceiving people who aren't sophisticated enough to know they're being deceived.
+
+02:19:23.080 --> 02:19:30.080
+And they're doing it happily as part of the group of people that governs us.
+
+02:19:30.080 --> 02:19:39.080
+That's why there's a picture of Zuckerberg and all these other people having a dinner right before Obama is elected.
+
+02:19:39.080 --> 02:19:45.080
+Toasting glasses.
+
+02:19:45.080 --> 02:19:47.080
+We are being governed by these people.
+
+02:19:47.080 --> 02:19:51.080
+They are working together behind the scenes to govern us with lies.
+
+02:19:51.080 --> 02:19:55.080
+And they may even be controlling our government with these lies.
+
+02:19:55.080 --> 02:19:59.080
+Because the people in our government for the most part aren't that bright.
+
+02:19:59.080 --> 02:20:04.080
+I think that was one thing that you can take to the bank now.
+
+02:20:04.080 --> 02:20:08.080
+For every Thomas Massey there's about 500 people that are idiots.
+
+02:20:08.080 --> 02:20:15.080
+So these are the easiest kinds of people to control.
+
+02:20:15.080 --> 02:20:20.080
+The people in our government now are the most ridiculous jokes.
+
+02:20:20.080 --> 02:20:23.080
+It's a big clown show and that's what they wanted.
+
+02:20:23.080 --> 02:20:28.080
+Because this is a controlled demolition of America.
+
+02:20:28.080 --> 02:20:32.080
+It's going to get worse.
+
+02:20:32.080 --> 02:20:34.080
+There are going to be more clowns in government.
+
+02:20:34.080 --> 02:20:36.080
+There's going to be more clowning in government.
+
+02:20:36.080 --> 02:20:40.080
+No matter what happens in 2024 it's going to be clowning.
+
+02:20:40.080 --> 02:20:48.080
+There's a few different scenarios but they're all clowning.
+
+02:20:48.080 --> 02:20:50.080
+This is where we're at.
+
+02:20:50.080 --> 02:20:53.080
+This is where they're going.
+
+02:20:53.080 --> 02:20:57.080
+And if you want to escape you just got to learn the biology that underpins this.
+
+02:20:57.080 --> 02:21:03.080
+Understand what transfection is and why it's not immunization and understand why actually
+
+02:21:03.080 --> 02:21:06.080
+the intramuscular injection of pretty much anything is dumb.
+
+02:21:06.080 --> 02:21:11.080
+If you're trying to augment the immune system of a healthy human.
+
+02:21:11.080 --> 02:21:17.080
+Please stop all transfections in humans and they are trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary.
+
+02:21:17.080 --> 02:21:22.080
+So Mike Vandenberg mixed date.
+
+02:21:22.080 --> 02:21:28.080
+Didn't I put that one up there? I thought I put this one up there.
+
+02:21:28.080 --> 02:21:30.080
+That's what I thought I put up there. Sorry about that.
+
+02:21:30.080 --> 02:21:33.080
+I did that last night too.
+
+02:21:33.080 --> 02:21:37.080
+I don't know. I feel like I kind of blew it on this one because I got so negative.
+
+02:21:37.080 --> 02:21:40.080
+So I apologize for that.
+
+02:21:40.080 --> 02:21:44.080
+It's been a long day.
+
+02:21:44.080 --> 02:21:49.080
+And I'm very happy to say that I've had more energy today than I've had in a long, long time.
+
+02:21:49.080 --> 02:21:54.080
+Two nights in a row of sleeping has been miracle.
+
+02:21:54.080 --> 02:21:59.080
+And so I have pretty high hopes that this energy is going to keep building.
+
+02:21:59.080 --> 02:22:05.080
+So let me give the cords a rest and I'll see you guys again tomorrow.
+
+02:22:05.080 --> 02:22:34.080
+And there it is, right? That's the alpha fold nonsense that they made and told everybody that now we know how old proteins
+
+02:22:34.080 --> 02:22:41.080
+fold.
+
+02:22:41.080 --> 02:22:46.080
+Don't forget to follow that Jeff from Earth link that he puts in there every night.
+
+02:22:46.080 --> 02:22:52.080
+Jeff from Earth is one of my best supporters, my longest supporters.
+
+02:22:52.080 --> 02:22:58.080
+And he makes Instagram cuts of my streams and they're always really good.
+
+02:22:58.080 --> 02:23:06.080
+And he's been doing it for a long time. For goodness sakes, please share that dude's work and spread it around.
+
+02:23:06.080 --> 02:23:11.080
+Because those shorts are probably a lot of times better than three hour shares.
+
+02:23:11.080 --> 02:23:17.080
+So anyway, thanks guys. I'll see you guys again tomorrow.
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+He's going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television.
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+People everywhere are starting to listen to him.
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+It's embarrassing.
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+And everybody knows when dry ice mixes with water, it makes a real spooky fog.
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+Show them, Scooby.
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+Scooby-Doo!
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+Dooby-Doo!
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+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
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+There was no spread in New York City.
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+Infectious clones are the only real threat.
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+placebo batches were likely distributed.
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+Transfection in healthy mammals is dumb.
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+Protocols were murder, gain, or function is a mythology.
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+The Scooby-Doo is real and players are committed to lies.
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+That's how we're going to get through this, ladies and gentlemen.
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+We have to figure this out.
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+This faith must be dispelled.
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+This faith must definitely be dispelled.
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+So what is the name of this series band?
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+You turn on your phone.
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+I hear so many stories about them.
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+Whoa, here we go.
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+We're blasting right in already.
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+Ladies and gentlemen, good evening.
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+Good evening.
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+Welcome to Gigome Biological Eye Resistance Low Noise Information Brief.
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+Brought to you by a biologist whose voice is still kind of recovering from my vocal
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+hemorrhage.
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+But yeah, we're doing all right.
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+It is the 21st 24th excuse me of October, 2023.
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+Good to see you there, Liam.
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+We are still doing the same little song and dance in the beginning about not taking the debate
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+on social media and not taking the bait on TV.
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+It's getting very hard because of all the stuff that's going on in the Middle East and elsewhere.
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+Wow.
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+As I mentioned, the Middle East Brass is not exactly the song I want to have in the background.
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+I'm just going to kill that.
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+That's a little weak.
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+In all seriousness, no, it is getting harder and harder to focus on this cave we're trying
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+to get out of because of the fact that so much other distractory news is just being thrown
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+at us.
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+It's not much different than it was at the beginning of the pandemic.
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+It's still the same fire hose.
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+It's just different flavors and different colors and maybe even getting worse.
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+But in the end, the goal is the same.
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+The goal is to make it feel as though you're in this race car and there's just too much
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+to pay attention to.
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+And the only thing you can do is hold onto your chair and hope that whatever crashes into
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+the car doesn't hit your side of the vehicle.
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+We've been fooled into solving this mystery.
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+Like I said, the book season is coming out.
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+Many of us already own books.
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+There's new books coming out by Rand Paul.
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+There's old books by Andrew Huff and Robert Malone and the Braggons.
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+And by that Australian journalist and there's even a new one coming out with Robert F.
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+Kennedy Jr. as the author.
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+Some of my biology will be in that book.
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+The question is, can we leverage it in a way that will get the truth of the clones out
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+there?
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+I'm really not sure.
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+Either way, I think this so far, you're going to have to excuse me.
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+There's still some healing that has to go on.
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+I can feel there's a, I don't know if it's a loose thing or whatever, but something's
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+going on back there that every once in a while gets in the way.
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+I need to cough it out of the way, but there's no pain.
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+It's just either my voice is incredibly loud or it's a little half loud.
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+Right now it's kind of half loud.
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+Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting
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+the immune system is dumb.
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+I really think understanding what that implies, whether you agree with it or not, at least
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+gets us to a stage where we can talk about things.
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+And right now I think sort of a good place to be is also understanding that
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+it's purest form with the best RNA and the most perfect lipid nanoparticle from the
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+from the private stock of Peter Cullis's silver cabinet that's behind the Rembrandt painting,
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+the best lipid nanoparticles, the best batch of RNA with the highest purity of sequence
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+and the most uniformity of the polyA tail.
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+And you would still have the problem that transfection is not immunization.
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+You'd still have the problem of expressing a foreign protein in random places in the
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+body.
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+And that's the trick that's coming up in the next weeks is this idea that there's this
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+there's this DNA, adulteration, contamination, and that if it wasn't for this, we might
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+be, we might have been scot free.
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+Who knows?
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+It might have been the best vaccine ever invented, but because of this, all bets are off.
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+SV40, oh my.
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+Now don't get me wrong, it's not good to have DNA in the shot.
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+But it bypasses the argument of what in the hell were we doing thinking to give the
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+shot in the first place.
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+I mean, maybe if there was airborne Ebola, you know, but come on.
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+That's the only argument they've got.
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+And we must start to mobilize and move into action and play these pieces while they're
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+still on the board because otherwise the sun is setting on our, on our, on our chance
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+to, to push this before this next illusion of consensus starts to form around, around the
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+idea that my in focus, I can't tell, around the idea that it was the DNA and that we can
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+explain so much.
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+The cancer is also from the DNA.
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+And SV40 explains the cancer and oh my goodness.
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+Everything solves itself and look who the heroes are.
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+It's ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
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+And don't, please don't misunderstand that.
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+I don't want to be a hero.
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+I have been blessed by this crazy scyop and blessed by all the people that have supported
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+this stream and by being hired by CHD.
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+I have a decent paying job with insurance for my family.
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+And that's a lot better than being homeless.
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+And after I got fired from Pitt, you know, like, I don't know.
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+I'm very, very humbly thankful to still be in this fight in some way or another.
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+And I think that's why I still believe it's worth fighting for.
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+The idea that the truth might actually catch fire.
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+It doesn't have to be, you know, Kevin McCurnan against the world or Robert Malone saving
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+the world on a white horse.
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+It just has to be the truth getting out and everybody realizing that so much of what is
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+public health has been a, has been a theater, an elaborate theater to move people and make
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+people behave in a certain way so that trillions of dollars could be controlled.
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+And that's on a short timescale.
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+And on a longer timescale, we're talking about the actual governance of countries and maybe
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+even the world if you want to think about it that way.
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+And in reality, what we have to come to the realization, I'm afraid, is that it's been
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+this way for much longer than since 2020.
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+And I think that's what's so hard for everybody is that it, it, it really becomes this thing
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+where there is no other possibility.
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+You can't take this on as a hobby.
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+You know, it's, it's, it's kind of an all or nothing thing.
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+And so we're going to have to find ways to, to get people on board to help them board
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+the ship without them having to climb a, climb a rope and burn their hands and all this other stuff.
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+I mean, I don't know how we're going to do it, but the DNA in the shot could be, in theory,
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+you know, everybody's going to scream and yell, but it could be a way where if we play our cards
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+right, you know, they're not going to be able to stop the flood once the water is flowing.
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+And I think the way that is, is that you've got to, we've got to be able to accurately
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+and succinctly articulate that in its purest form,
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+transfection with modified RNA that's codon optimized and chemically altered uridines.
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+And goodness knows what else they did.
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+We don't know.
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+We don't know if there are any other RNAs in there by accident or on purpose.
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+I mean, we really have to talk about the fact that the DNA, I'm just going to, I'm going to waste some time here.
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+And the DNA idea is such a shiny object that what you're risking doing is bleaching out the rest of the picture,
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+which is the more important part.
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+And they're really doing that.
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+I tried to come up with an adequate analogy this afternoon with my, at the, at the lunch table,
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+and I don't know if it's adequate enough, but it's kind of, it's, it's near this.
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+But my son's 14 years old.
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+And if, if I found him across the street in my car with a fifth of whiskey, half gone, completely drunk,
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+the car smashed into the living room of that house.
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+And upon further investigation, we found out that there was 96 octane gas in the car.
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+And I decided to make it my life's mission to make sure that never ever again did they sell 96 octane gas at a, at a gas station.
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+That would be pretty ridiculous, right?
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+Well, if we're going to campaign that we don't ever want to be transfected again, unless we're sure there's no DNA in it, that's about as dumb.
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+And yet that's what this illusion of consensus.
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+I'm afraid is going to trick us into behaving.
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+That that's the behavior they want us to choose.
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+And we've got to be very, I just, if I can help people understand that idea, then you can tell me it's wrong.
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+But until people can understand that idea and how, how deceptive that trap is, we've, we've just got to be able to see it.
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+And I do think that there are people that can see it.
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+I do think that there are more people that can be made to help to see it, but there are a lot of people who will never see.
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+That's just the way it is.
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+And mostly it's because there's such a beautifully, beautifully orchestrated apparatus that's designed to do exactly that.
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+Make sure that people stay right down the middle here and just, you know, dodged and distracted by all the things that don't matter, asking the wrong questions all the time.
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+So yesterday we looked at this video, which I preface that had something to do with what we've been talking about for a long time, which is this, this elite goal to collect as much biological data about the human genome and its expression in time
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+as possible in order to feed a hypothetical AI machine learning entity, the data, and somehow crack the human genome.
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+I guess I better water up a little bit.
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+And so we watched this video yesterday of Dr. Priscilla Chan and Mark Zuckerberg talking about their the CZIs overarching plan to cure all diseases, and they were interviewed by this guy, Huberman, who I started out with a very honest praise of him.
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+I thought he, I think he's a great guy, but I was really kind of shocked at how he performed in this, in this video.
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+And when I, it's funny when I ended the show, fear that my wife, she said, I thought you knew about him already.
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+I'm like, what, he's really smart, but didn't you know, and she sent me this.
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+She sent me this thing that they were like, at Lex, they celebrated Lex Friedman's birthday with Joe.
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+Oh boy. So anyway, yeah, I was a, I'm a little bit behind the times with where with regard to whether or not Huberman was on our side or the other side.
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+And yeah, and this is an, is a absolutely spectacular example of what I've been trying to talk about is that these people were put into place early and, and this network has been used exquisitely to create this.
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+What about a limited spectrum of debate within which there is a very lively discussion.
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+And within within that limited spectrum of debate defined by these people is a lively discussion defined by these people and we all go, wow, that illusion of consensus is pretty convincing.
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+And the magic spell is cast.
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+That's the awfulness of social media.
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+Now, I want to just make sure that I'm not supposed to stop here first because I do have two things to look at here, but let me think of make sure what my mind was thinking here.
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+Yeah, so I want to keep going.
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+So I've played this many times that part of the illusion of consensus is around this idea that gain of function is real and that's the overarching mythology, you know, the, the, that's the boogeyman that they're, they're making us afraid of.
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+Yesterday, I also introduced this concept that's really not my concept, but it's the first time that I've tried to do it with this, with this little simple slide.
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+And as you know, this is the all cause mortality rate in the United States defined in weeks from the years 2014 all the way to I believe this is the beginning of 2022.
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+Oh, sorry, you can see that.
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+I think this is 2014 and this is the beginning of 2022.
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+And so this season of fluctuation that you see here is a real phenomenon.
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+And it is just the seasonal variation in the weekly all cause mortality in America.
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+Remember, between 2.7 and 3 million people are expected to die every year in America as our population continues to slowly rise.
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+And so it's not really clear what the real deaths would be here, but if you can zoom back a little bit more, you can actually see that this graph is actually inclined like this over time or so I can go like this.
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+Oops, inclined like this over time.
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+And if you see some of Denny Rancor's data where it goes back farther, you can see that trend present on top of an ever rising all cause mortality rate because we have more people in America and that's the way it is.
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+So in addition to that, what you have to understand is happening here in case you're unaware is that a population pyramid can be drawn where you have all of the people, men and women, graft on the bottom from little kids all the way up to old people at the top.
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+And depending on the shape of that pyramid, you can understand how the evolution of that population will occur over time.
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+And if you don't know enough about population pyramids, I suggest you read about them a little bit because our population pyramid is about to invert.
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+And as it inverts, it creates a very predictable effect on the economics of the socioeconomic structure and what that socioeconomic structure is capable of.
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+And also it changes the way that the all cause mortality rate will change over time.
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+And that is also something that has been happening here for quite some more than a few years, which means it's possible that there were a lot of, let's say, people beyond the life, age expectancy.
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+Here, look, this, this, this peak right here is almost cut off. It's one of the lowest peaks since what is this 2015.
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+So in that sense, there's a possibility that there were some people that were either, either could have died, but didn't in these several years that ended up dying all in 2020.
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+And how did that occur?
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+Were they all in hospitals in New York?
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+It seems like it.
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+So there's a lot of things to hunt out here.
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+But the point is, is that a novel virus in their story is a novel cause of death.
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+So it should be taking out people that otherwise would not have died.
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+So you need in order to figure out where the pandemic is in this light blue graph here, you need to accurately subtract this expected value out from under.
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+You see?
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+And whatever it is on top of that, in theory would be the novel cause of death.
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+Now, in order to find that number, you've got to do some math.
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+And so this was the, the reason why we were using this graph before was to explain what we think is the hypothesis, which is that, that the who declared a pandemic of a novel virus, the PCR test, the financial incentive, and the plan that was ready to do that.
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+The plan that was ready to go, the only molecular explanation for all of this molecular biology to be even remotely, remotely solid or believable at the beginning of the pandemic is for a clone or clones to have been used and shoot.
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+And the idea, again, is to invert our sovereignty to, to permissions, but using this, this same graph, this way, I want you to think about where this mystery virus total comes from.
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+Sorry, I'm being so awkward here.
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+I didn't put these slides together in the order that I thought I did so that that one was supposed to come at the end.
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+The mystery virus, if you want to think about what the mystery, who the mystery virus killed, you have to look at all excess deaths, but then you must subtract all of the truths that we now know we didn't know that this was all going on in 2020 when we were all staying at
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+home because Brett Weinstein told us that he was going to stay at home and we were wearing bandanas and whatever.
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+So in 2020, we didn't know that they had do not resuscitate orders in New York City and that they weren't resuscitating heart attacks.
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+And when the heart attacks went up, we just, we just heard about it on the news is being COVID.
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+But now we know that they actually did that, which caused a rise in heart attack deaths caused a rise in stroke deaths.
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+It wasn't COVID. It was the fact that they didn't go to people. They didn't resuscitate people.
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+And that's a pretty big revelation because that also pretty much correlates with the rise and fall of the extreme event that happened in New York City.
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+Then in no way resembles the spreading of a respiratory virus.
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+You also have to subtract all of the people who were ventilated that shouldn't have been ventilated.
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+You need to subtract all of the people that should have gotten antibiotics but didn't because people like Vincent Rancin yellow and David Griffin or whatever his name is.
+
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+They were all saying that antibiotics don't work for a viral disease.
+
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+The lack of antibiotics is coupled with the poor use of steroids either administered when they shouldn't have been or when it was finally probably necessary in an emergency they were not administered.
+
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+The use of remdesivir is still just the most absurd thing ever and none of these people talk about it.
+
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+And the fact that the opioid deaths have to be subtracted from this.
+
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+You can't because they're not here and they're not in the expected deaths.
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+Expected deaths are from like car accidents and illness and they have all these numbers.
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+And there aren't expected deaths for opioid deaths.
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+That's not a thing you figure in.
+
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+And if you figure it in over there, then you have to figure figure in the trends of whatever happening in that opioid deaths and make sure that they're all in that which you know they're not.
+
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+And the death certificate fraud is very significant from California to New York.
+
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+There's all kinds of different investigators that have shown this.
+
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+And so once you subtract all of these things away, maybe there's nothing left.
+
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+In fact, there isn't.
+
+27:25.000 --> 27:31.000
+These same people they also avoid discussing the PCR fraud, the lateral flow test fraud.
+
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+A lot of people aren't aware of the lateral flow test fraud, but you know, the UK's second wave of COVID was almost completely defined by a Chinese lateral flow test.
+
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+Chinese lateral flow test product.
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+They didn't even use, you know, traditional PCR.
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+27:50.000 --> 27:54.000
+They use something else to define COVID for almost half a year.
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+From China.
+
+27:59.000 --> 28:02.000
+Variants and sequences, they just don't talk about that anymore.
+
+28:02.000 --> 28:06.000
+Everybody just assumes that that's too hard for me.
+
+28:06.000 --> 28:15.000
+Nobody ever talks about the use of RNA infectious clones throughout RNA virology as the standard.
+
+28:15.000 --> 28:23.000
+They don't talk about quasi species swarm genetics and how that relates to variant sequences or they don't talk about incompetent fractions of the virus.
+
+28:23.000 --> 28:26.000
+They don't talk about any of that RNA fidelity limits.
+
+28:26.000 --> 28:35.000
+Oh, no, there's proofreading in coronaviruses. There's this EXO and gene.
+
+28:35.000 --> 28:55.000
+They are playing games with us because they also don't talk about the homology between other coronavirus proteins reported in the literature, which means that our immune system has more and more reason not to differentiate between this one and any other previously encountered RNA coronavirus.
+
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+If you just play their comic book game of what viruses are and what have been reported in the past, it doesn't make sense.
+
+29:03.000 --> 29:08.000
+Never mind if you try to question the fidelity of that story.
+
+29:08.000 --> 29:11.000
+And what's at the heart of this?
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+What's at the heart of all of this inability to question these things or even bring these up to do this math correctly?
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+What's at that heart of not being able to talk about PCR?
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+Why don't they ever mention it anymore?
+
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+I believe at the heart of this is this faith that there was a novel virus.
+
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+You can't do the math up here and have there be a novel virus still.
+
+29:36.000 --> 29:39.000
+The novel virus disappears.
+
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+So they can't do this math.
+
+29:41.000 --> 29:47.000
+They can't talk about opioid deaths at all because they risk doing the math.
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+29:47.000 --> 29:53.000
+They can't really mention remdesivir because then they might risk doing the math.
+
+29:53.000 --> 29:59.000
+Can't mention ventilators almost ever again because they might risk doing the math.
+
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+They'll want to talk to Jessica Hockett about what happened to New York for four weeks because they might risk doing that math and that will dispel the first tenant of the faith tenant of the faith, which is there was a novel virus.
+
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+Now millions died and were saved because that's both part of the narrative.
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+How were they saved?
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+Depends on what part of the story you want to believe.
+
+30:27.000 --> 30:30.000
+Maybe it was the ones who got Ivermectin.
+
+30:30.000 --> 30:36.000
+Maybe it was the ones who, I don't know, got vitamin D.
+
+30:36.000 --> 30:44.000
+Maybe you believe the people that took the RNA were the ones who didn't go to the hospital and only the vaccinated or unvaccinated died.
+
+30:44.000 --> 30:50.000
+Maybe that's you what you believe, but you believe something about that.
+
+30:50.000 --> 30:53.000
+Most likely you also believe the gain of function is real.
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+30:53.000 --> 30:55.000
+That's a real tenant of the faith.
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+None of these people will question that.
+
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+And the virus will come again.
+
+31:02.000 --> 31:10.000
+Well, of course, some people believe that Omicron was a virus come again from a laboratory released by a white hat.
+
+31:10.000 --> 31:13.000
+Some people believe that every variant was released.
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+I think there's a Japanese group that published a paper that said every variant since Omicron has been released.
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+That's the same narrative.
+
+31:28.000 --> 31:40.000
+I think there's really an illusion of consensus about this faith that everybody is bamboozled into accepting by solving this mystery.
+
+31:40.000 --> 31:44.000
+This mystery of who did it, taking a mask off.
+
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+We're going to put Fauci in jail for all those liars.
+
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+And when they changed our mind about this as being a novel virus and we accepted it, then all of this stuff was possible.
+
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+That's the trick. Once you accept the faith, then all of this stuff makes sense, or at least you can't blame anybody for having done it.
+
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+If you accept the faith, you can't blame anybody for trying.
+
+32:17.000 --> 32:25.000
+I mean, it was all hands on deck. What'd you do?
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+And that's what this is about.
+
+32:28.000 --> 32:34.000
+The illusion of consensus was started in 2019 by the intellectual dark web.
+
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+By people like Sam Harris, by people like Eric Weinstein with Peter Teal on one of his first podcasts talking about this possibility exactly.
+
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+That they would lie to us about science in order to control us.
+
+32:56.000 --> 33:08.000
+And with Brett Weinstein with Sam Harris on his number eight podcast talking about how when a real pandemic comes December 20, 2019.
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+When a real pandemic comes, we won't be able to tolerate them there anti-vaxxers.
+
+33:22.000 --> 33:27.000
+2020, the undercurrents of a lab leak were seeded.
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+And they controlled that very well while on TV, they made it seem like almost ridiculous, which fueled that underground fire of that lab leak story even more until 2021 when it started to get a little more traction and even even Tucker Carlson talked about it.
+
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+And then Omicron went around and people started talking about another lab leak released.
+
+33:51.000 --> 33:59.000
+Wow, good guys. This is vaccinating the world. Oh, no, says carrot, London, Bosch, not vaccinating the world.
+
+33:59.000 --> 34:05.000
+This is the start of doom.
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+And none of those prescriptions ever to question the faith at all.
+
+34:10.000 --> 34:14.000
+That's what this laboratory that cave zoneosis thing is all about.
+
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+You can fight about that all you want because it is a controlled space.
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+It is a limited spectrum of debate within which there's a very lively discussion over three years.
+
+34:28.000 --> 34:32.000
+Oh boy.
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+34:32.000 --> 34:42.000
+We still haven't figured it out. Six books later.
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+34:42.000 --> 34:44.000
+That's an illusion.
+
+34:44.000 --> 34:50.000
+That whole thing was an illusion. The good guys, the bad guys.
+
+34:50.000 --> 35:03.000
+So many of them were just pretending to be against each other, pretending to be antagonizing one another.
+
+35:03.000 --> 35:16.000
+And it's still happening now. People are still trying to play that game of, you know, I'm against so-and-so and so pay attention to me.
+
+35:16.000 --> 35:26.000
+It's a very, very disingenuous game if it's not centered around explaining what happened.
+
+35:26.000 --> 35:38.000
+And almost nobody is interested in explaining what happened. Why are they not interested in explaining what happened?
+
+35:38.000 --> 35:43.000
+Because they don't want to question this faith.
+
+35:43.000 --> 35:52.000
+You see, if you start talking about what really happened, then you start questioning this faith and none of these people are allowed to do that.
+
+35:52.000 --> 36:00.000
+And I can't stress how important it is for you to be able to start to scrutinize people just based on that idea alone.
+
+36:00.000 --> 36:06.000
+You can see people for what they are in a snap.
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+And there's lots of them in the best places.
+
+36:11.000 --> 36:27.000
+And so as great as it feels that we're making all this progress, we haven't really made much progress because this faith is still solid as a rock.
+
+36:27.000 --> 36:35.000
+And that's the problem. This illusion of consensus hasn't been broken yet and no matter how we bring it, but this is the best I can do.
+
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+It's a bad leak, a release. It does not matter because the faith is a lie.
+
+36:46.000 --> 36:52.000
+Okay, so let's get out of this. Let's watch these two.
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+36:52.000 --> 36:58.000
+First of all, I wanted to watch this one because it came back up again and it's a cut that this guy made.
+
+36:58.000 --> 37:06.000
+So he made a cut of this video we watched earlier. It's only like 12 minutes wrong and it's the best cut. It's the one that I went nuts on.
+
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+And I think it's worth bringing up again because this is a great example of, again, what were we talking about?
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+37:14.000 --> 37:25.000
+This idea that he's not going to, he's not going off you demon.
+
+37:25.000 --> 37:32.000
+He's not going to question the faith, right? He's not going to question this.
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+37:32.000 --> 37:40.000
+He's not going to question this. He's not going to bring up PCR or lateral flow test fraud in the UK. He's not going to bring up variance sequences.
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+37:40.000 --> 37:55.000
+Nothing about the virology at all. He's not going to bring up any of those other causes of death. None of these causes that need to be removed from that hypothetical total of a million people killed in America.
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+37:55.000 --> 38:19.000
+He's not going to do any of that math and he's going to spend like 12 minutes spewing hot air about the RNA, knowing full well what we know, which is there is this play to make us think that the DNA is really the only thing that really screwed us and those bastards knew it.
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+Listen carefully. I'll probably just let it play because it's fun. Did it play? Yeah.
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+I'm going to say something now and I had responded to a few comments on social media as well. And I, as I wrote something, I reflected on it.
+
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+And my feeling is that the technology has some limitations, but my honest instinct is that they did it with the wrong disease at too big a scale, meaning that if they had done what the intention was, which was to focus on the high risk cohort
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+and try to protect them with the technology, I think the risk or the potential exposure of the technology would have been significantly lower.
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+And I said something here. I'll finish with this statement. I said that no matter what the political situation is, the people who have been hurt in one way or the other by the technology,
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+will never be silent. And that's in effect, the thing that is unstoppable. And so the platform, even though it could have more modifications, more benefits, could be destroyed at this altar. Any thoughts on that?
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+So I had warned about this and not just the platform, but the entire vaccine enterprise has been compromised. And public faith in public health, the reputation of the CDC, the reputation of the FDA, I speak about this from time to time.
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+I was speaking to a Portuguese audience about a year and a half or two years ago, and an older woman asked me a question and prefaced it with a preamble.
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+And she made the point that throughout Europe, the FDA had always been believed to be the gold standard for integrity and rigor in regulation of drugs and biological products.
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+And that she had come to now understand that the FDA was corrupt and could not be relied on. And when she said that, I had not allowed that thought to come into my mind up until that point.
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+And it literally hit me like a brick to the head that in this rush, this Operation Warp Speed, and all of the propaganda.
+
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+So did you catch that? I mean, it's just, it hurts my head sometimes when I listen to this one. I'm going to go back a little bit, just so you hear it.
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+Now, imagine Robert Malone, who consulted for epivacs.
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+41:21.000 --> 41:41.000
+Robert Malone, who co-founded Anovio, Robert Malone, who spoke in front of the who in 2011 about flu vaccines, who worked with Herod Vunden-Bosch in 2007 and 2008 on flu vaccines in Solve.
+
+41:42.000 --> 41:46.000
+Robert Malone of West Coast clinical trials.
+
+41:47.000 --> 41:52.000
+Robert Malone, who's great friends with David Hone.
+
+41:52.000 --> 41:59.000
+Robert Malone, the guy who's claims to have been vetted for U.S. amored head of science.
+
+41:59.000 --> 42:06.000
+Robert Malone, who's been on the Tommy podcast several times, a few times with Stephen Hatfield.
+
+42:07.000 --> 42:16.000
+Robert Malone, the guy who claims to have eight patents, which should have given him some claim to the Nobel Prize from this year.
+
+42:16.000 --> 42:24.000
+Robert Malone, who the guy who led us to Peter Collis, and later to Abzallera.
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+Robert Malone says that he didn't realize that the FDA could what?
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+The regulation of drugs and biological products, and that she had come to now understand that the FDA was corrupt and could not be relied on.
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+And when she said that, I had not allowed that thought to come into my mind up until that point.
+
+42:48.000 --> 42:59.000
+And it literally hit me like a brick to the head that in this rush, this Operation Warp Speed, and all of the propaganda,
+
+42:59.000 --> 43:04.000
+and misinformation and disinformation that was propagated by the government.
+
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+And the withholding of information about adverse events, for instance, myocarditis in particular.
+
+43:10.000 --> 43:23.000
+What we had done as a United States health and human services and bio-defense infrastructure and really biomedical pharmaceutical complex,
+
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+is we had destroyed or severely damaged our competitive position in the world as the preeminent developer and manufacturer of these types of products.
+
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+And my prediction had been then, and I think we're seeing it accelerate, that what would be the logical consequence would be that the United States would continue to lose
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+its dominant position in biopharmaceuticals to India and China, one of which is considered a hostile nation, and the other one is at best a frenemy.
+
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+Certainly a strong competitor. And that's what's happened. The United States now has to import not only final drug product, but drug precursors, if they're going to do that.
+
+44:18.000 --> 44:41.000
+And the reputation of the FDA is trashed globally and within the states. The damage that's been done here through the logic of emergency use authorization of products that have proven to be neither safe nor effective.
+
+44:41.000 --> 45:03.000
+In response to what was basically marketed or propagandized as a highly lethal respiratory virus with a 3.4% case fatality rate, based on Ferguson's modeling largely at Imperial College in his group.
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+And has proven to be paradoxically, Mr Trump got this right. Early on, there's multiple video clips of him saying that the fatality rate here, I think he calls it mortality rate, is well less than 1%. That turns out to be the case.
+
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+And the whole.
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+Can you hear that he's not he's not questioning the the faith at all in fact he's preaching it.
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+45:33.000 --> 45:40.000
+He's giving you the case fatality rate of the novel virus.
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+45:40.000 --> 45:51.000
+He's not questioning it at all. He's giving you the case fatality rate of the holy novel virus.
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+45:51.000 --> 45:56.000
+I find it pretty extraordinary.
+
+45:56.000 --> 46:02.000
+I mean, I find it really extraordinary.
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+46:02.000 --> 46:14.000
+Logic that this was a highly lethal virus that would overwhelm our hospitals causes us to need to have mass graves and.
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+Freezer vans full of dead bodies and et cetera, et cetera. That's all turned out to be false propaganda.
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+And, but that is what has been used to justify these breaches of what are really international norms of ethics and product development that have been developed over decades.
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+So we're now left. I could tell you my colleagues in the.
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+Clinical development and earlier phase pharmaceutical development space.
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+I'm just kind of confused as to whether he is saying that he was also fooled by this propaganda and that's why he spent all of.
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+Two thousand twenty and two thousand.
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+Much of the beginning of two thousand twenty one.
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+Working to find combinations of possible repeat patentable combinations of repurposed drugs and bringing them to market.
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+Because he thought that there was an especially dangerous virus with about three percent fatality rate like.
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+And he wrote said the other day.
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+So I'm really confused here because.
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+I don't think obviously he's not being honest, but I wanted you to see exactly how much performance is happening now and.
+
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+I think this rehe rehearsing this over and over.
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+It can't help but make it clearer.
+
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+And it's it's becoming very crystal clear to me now that we are right on target and all we need to do.
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+Is keep this steady pressure on so that.
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+So that we remain focused on this.
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+We're not going to lose sight of the idea that we are not going to.
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+Allow the DNA.
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+To take the blame.
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+We're not going to allow the ninety six octane gasoline that was in my car to take the blame for the fact that my fourteen year old boy.
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+Was driving drunk.
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+And we're not going to let DNA contamination take the blame for the fact that we decided that it would be okay to put.
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+Five point six billion transfection products into the arms of relatively healthy humans.
+
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+That's what we need to understand if it's if it's lipid nanoparticles are bad to great.
+
+48:46.000 --> 48:51.000
+If it's the RNA contaminations are bad to that's great.
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+If it's the spike protein also causes amyloid and some people great.
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+If it causes clotting and most people great.
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+All the better.
+
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+But we cannot blame one of those are all of those things it's all it's all bad.
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+Your son wasn't wearing shoes either great.
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+Your son didn't have his glasses on great.
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+It's all wrong.
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+He's fourteen year old driving a car was already wrong.
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+Then he got drunk.
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+Then he didn't have his glasses on any of you see.
+
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+And it has always been that game.
+
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+Because what was the game they just don't want you to say that transfection is bad.
+
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+So they had to do that game.
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+But it was so I mean when it was on you couldn't see the game.
+
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+And these guys are still playing the game that doctor Philip McMillan just said that we should have saved the old people with the technology.
+
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+That Philip McMillan had a conference over a weekend that included Kevin McCarron the guy who said that there could be a billion people dead from this virus in February of 2020.
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+And continued to say worst case scenario was possible for several months after that.
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+As part of a little network of people it all seemed to be connected right back to Robert Malone.
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+Including George Webb and Paul Catrell who Robert Malone is streamed with.
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+And although George Webb is supposed to be Robert Malone's arch enemy.
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+Robert one of Robert Malone's first streaming partners and streaming interviewees was Paul Catrell who George Webb says is like the greatest hero of all.
+
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+Dr. bus rider MD.
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+These connections aren't random.
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+These are the bricks at the back of the theater.
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+This is where this is where it ends.
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+If there are people behind these people great if they're we got their order wrong or who's behind who wrong who cares.
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+These are clearly the bricks the scenery that it's all visible now we just have to kind of be careful not to kick any of it down.
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+And don't get these people confused with the stage hands.
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+I guess I'll just let it play out because he probably says a few more ridiculous things.
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+Are perplexed now that it's what's what's happened in in the states with regulatory affairs and the FDA is that what what had previously been a fairly rigorous and highly structured process.
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+We all knew the rules.
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+We knew what the process was.
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+We could project how much it costs.
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+We could project the timelines and you know grind away for a decade to get the product developed and you know safe and effective.
+
+52:23.000 --> 52:28.000
+And now it's kind of anything goes if they want it to go.
+
+52:28.000 --> 52:36.000
+And if they want to hold you to higher standards they will and you can't predict what it's going to be.
+
+52:36.000 --> 52:40.000
+You know your people are left with well who I have to pay off.
+
+52:40.000 --> 52:47.000
+You know what do I have to do to it's the whole system is now compromised.
+
+52:47.000 --> 52:49.000
+Its integrity is compromised.
+
+52:49.000 --> 53:00.000
+So now this one is going to be even more fun because guess who was just on Tommy.
+
+53:00.000 --> 53:09.000
+And again all we're going to listen to is another person trying to defend the faith.
+
+53:09.000 --> 53:15.000
+And remember what the faith is again I'll just bring it up to be a little bit repetitive.
+
+53:15.000 --> 53:19.000
+But the faith is this faith right here.
+
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+There was a novel virus millions died and were saved gain a function is real and a virus will come again.
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+53:27.000 --> 53:33.000
+And the people who are faithful avoid discussing the PCR fraud or the testing fraud.
+
+53:33.000 --> 53:37.000
+They avoid discussing variants and sequences and what they might mean or not mean.
+
+53:37.000 --> 53:41.000
+They avoid all discussion of the details of virology.
+
+53:41.000 --> 53:47.000
+And they discuss nothing to do with the homology between these proteins and others.
+
+53:47.000 --> 53:52.000
+It's just the whole virology thing is thrown out the window with these people.
+
+53:53.000 --> 53:56.000
+And that's part of what the no virus people are all about.
+
+53:56.000 --> 54:05.000
+It's kind of taking a for you to miss this to miss all of this.
+
+54:05.000 --> 54:11.000
+And so if you miss all of this and you just say now there's nothing then you also lose.
+
+54:11.000 --> 54:18.000
+Then you fail to understand what clones are and you fail to understand what things they do have
+
+54:18.000 --> 54:27.000
+which can be used to create the illusion of this molecular biology.
+
+54:27.000 --> 54:34.000
+And if they don't do the math and this that's the math of how do you get the total number of deaths caused by the virus.
+
+54:34.000 --> 54:47.000
+You have to take all excess deaths and you subtract the do not resuscitate orders the ventilated people the people that didn't get antibiotics.
+
+54:47.000 --> 54:50.000
+People have had remdesivir the opioid deaths.
+
+54:50.000 --> 54:57.000
+The death certificate fraud and this one is I can't remember anymore but we can go back up one here.
+
+54:57.000 --> 55:00.000
+It's yeah sorry the prior use of steroids.
+
+55:00.000 --> 55:09.000
+So anyway this this faith is not going to be is not going to be questioned and it's now Stephen Hatfield high priest number two.
+
+55:09.000 --> 55:18.000
+The first high priest and acolyte we had a high priest Robert Malone and we had an acolyte the doctor Philip McMillan.
+
+55:18.000 --> 55:27.000
+And now we have another high priest this would be Stephen Hatfield and an acolyte in Tommy.
+
+55:27.000 --> 55:35.000
+And so when Tommy interviews other people and the faith is questioned how does Tommy defend the faith.
+
+55:35.000 --> 55:44.000
+Well he defends the faith by following the teachings of these high priests that he's had through his podcast multiple times.
+
+55:44.000 --> 55:54.000
+And they go through his podcast on purpose so that when he's interviewing all these other people this faith is never questioned.
+
+55:54.000 --> 56:02.000
+Or if it's questioned it's also jokingly brought in back into existence by Tommy.
+
+56:02.000 --> 56:08.000
+And if you really want to waste your time you can actually watch and find out that I'm totally right about that.
+
+56:08.000 --> 56:12.000
+Even when he's playing video games.
+
+56:12.000 --> 56:16.000
+So let's check this.
+
+56:16.000 --> 56:19.000
+October 22nd 2023.
+
+56:19.000 --> 56:27.000
+You can find the link to Dr. Hatfield book three seconds for midnight and I do believe you have a new book coming out but I don't know when so I'm not going to make any promises to anybody.
+
+56:27.000 --> 56:29.000
+But when is it coming out.
+
+56:29.000 --> 56:31.000
+Oh we're hoping November.
+
+56:31.000 --> 56:32.000
+November.
+
+56:32.000 --> 56:33.000
+All right fair enough.
+
+56:33.000 --> 56:39.000
+And could you Dr. Hatfield for everyone listening who maybe doesn't know who you are could you please introduce yourself.
+
+56:39.000 --> 56:42.000
+Well I'm like nobody.
+
+56:42.000 --> 56:43.000
+Fuck me.
+
+56:43.000 --> 56:44.000
+Fuck me.
+
+56:44.000 --> 56:45.000
+Fuck me for crying.
+
+56:45.000 --> 56:47.000
+I know who this guy is he's a homeless guy.
+
+56:47.000 --> 56:48.000
+He's in person.
+
+56:48.000 --> 56:55.000
+Yeah I found his phone number and said will you stand are you in escort will you come to a podcast and pretend you're.
+
+56:55.000 --> 56:59.000
+I don't really know what what do you see this as if you can.
+
+56:59.000 --> 57:08.000
+If the if you start your podcast with F me F me F me with a guy who is supposed to be able to.
+
+57:08.000 --> 57:12.000
+You know be be in the White House.
+
+57:12.000 --> 57:16.000
+Or or sitting at a strategy meeting for a.
+
+57:16.000 --> 57:21.000
+For an advisory committee would not be crazy apparently Steven had Phil.
+
+57:21.000 --> 57:24.000
+But he's now here in a sweatshirt.
+
+57:24.000 --> 57:33.000
+Talking to some kid who says F me F me F me any laughs.
+
+57:33.000 --> 57:36.000
+What what what is the goal here.
+
+57:36.000 --> 57:38.000
+What are they doing.
+
+57:38.000 --> 57:42.000
+They're they're they're proselytizing.
+
+57:42.000 --> 57:47.000
+This is spreading the word right here.
+
+57:47.000 --> 57:53.000
+It's like an elaborate sales pitch for for.
+
+57:53.000 --> 57:56.000
+I don't know 20 and 30 year olds.
+
+57:56.000 --> 57:59.000
+College age kids I don't know who watches this.
+
+57:59.000 --> 58:06.000
+But it's extraordinary to me because that's not.
+
+58:06.000 --> 58:07.000
+Yeah.
+
+58:07.000 --> 58:10.000
+It's extraordinary to me doctor and he said sure thing.
+
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+No, he's doctor had value.
+
+58:12.000 --> 58:16.000
+You were in Trump's I believe his pandemic is pandemic response committee.
+
+58:16.000 --> 58:20.000
+Right. You worked in the White House and you've done research all of your career.
+
+58:20.000 --> 58:22.000
+Yeah, I am.
+
+58:22.000 --> 58:26.000
+When all of 2020 was I was called into the White House to the executive office.
+
+58:26.000 --> 58:32.000
+Where I worked with Peter Navarro to try to bring some rationality and sanity.
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+58:32.000 --> 58:39.000
+To what the White House task force have turned into a nightmare of a response that had no chance of ever working three years later.
+
+58:39.000 --> 58:41.000
+We can see it didn't work at all.
+
+58:41.000 --> 58:44.000
+All the things they tried the lockdowns useless.
+
+58:44.000 --> 58:49.000
+At the most, maybe it reduced desk by one percent. We're not even sure of that.
+
+58:49.000 --> 58:52.000
+Masking useless did nothing.
+
+58:52.000 --> 58:54.000
+Social distancing.
+
+58:54.000 --> 58:58.000
+Altogether, the masking and social distancing might have done a bit.
+
+58:58.000 --> 59:02.000
+It had in 1918 during the influenza pandemic.
+
+59:02.000 --> 59:04.000
+But you have to start it early.
+
+59:04.000 --> 59:08.000
+Once you get past a certain level of infections, it's not going to make any difference.
+
+59:08.000 --> 59:10.000
+There's just too much virus out there.
+
+59:10.000 --> 59:14.000
+So, I mean, that's a reasonable thing to do.
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+59:14.000 --> 59:17.000
+And that was to bias time and a short lockdown.
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+59:17.000 --> 59:19.000
+One, no more than two weeks.
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+59:19.000 --> 59:21.000
+There's too much virus.
+
+59:21.000 --> 59:22.000
+Too much virus out there.
+
+59:22.000 --> 59:24.000
+Too much viral drug.
+
+59:24.000 --> 59:26.000
+That is the plan.
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+59:26.000 --> 59:32.000
+And a drug that is safe enough that you can use it in outpatients.
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+59:32.000 --> 59:35.000
+You don't have to be on the hospital to use it.
+
+59:35.000 --> 59:36.000
+Okay?
+
+59:36.000 --> 59:38.000
+A drug that's safe enough.
+
+59:38.000 --> 59:42.000
+Your doctor can just write you a prescription after a phone interview.
+
+59:42.000 --> 59:43.000
+Okay?
+
+59:43.000 --> 59:45.000
+And not worry about check on you.
+
+59:45.000 --> 59:50.000
+The doctor that knows you that you're assigned like for his general practice, family practice.
+
+59:50.000 --> 59:55.000
+So, we had a drug.
+
+59:55.000 --> 01:00:01.000
+The people upstairs came down and gave me a piece of paper that said that the Chinese were buying millions.
+
+01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:06.000
+I mean, they were manufacturing tons of a drug called chloroquine.
+
+01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:09.000
+So, that's an antiviral.
+
+01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:11.000
+So, the wonders of modern computers.
+
+01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:15.000
+It takes you about five minutes to pull up every paper on chloroquine off of PubMed,
+
+01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:17.000
+the National Library of Medicine.
+
+01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:21.000
+And we see there's the CDC itself researchers, the old gray beards, right?
+
+01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:24.000
+Back in like 2005.
+
+01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:29.000
+And they had found in tissue culture that it just blocks the replication of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
+
+01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:31.000
+The COVID-19 virus, we'll call it.
+
+01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:33.000
+It blocks it.
+
+01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:38.000
+Well, holy cow, if you can block replication early while you're an outpatient for you to sicken up,
+
+01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:41.000
+you have to give breathless and come to hospital.
+
+01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:44.000
+Well, dude, you just solved the pandemic problem.
+
+01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:47.000
+This is going to be a bad flu season.
+
+01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:48.000
+Yeah?
+
+01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:53.000
+But with any pandemic, there's always two major factors.
+
+01:00:53.000 --> 01:01:01.000
+The organism itself that's causing the pandemic and the social response to it.
+
+01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:07.000
+And in this case, we had seriously a perfect treatment.
+
+01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:11.000
+Three years on the overwhelming evidence because people kept using it.
+
+01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:14.000
+One in 20 Americans still used it throughout the pandemic.
+
+01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:19.000
+Successfully, which shows you the level of trust in our federal health.
+
+01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:24.000
+So.
+
+01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:25.000
+So.
+
+01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:26.000
+So.
+
+01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:27.000
+So.
+
+01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:30.000
+It's causing the pandemic.
+
+01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.000
+And the social response to it.
+
+01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:35.000
+And in this case, we had.
+
+01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:36.000
+Seriously.
+
+01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.000
+A perfect treatment.
+
+01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:39.000
+Three years on.
+
+01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:42.000
+The overwhelming evidence because people kept using it.
+
+01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:45.000
+One in 20 Americans still used it throughout the pandemic.
+
+01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:46.000
+Successfully.
+
+01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:47.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:52.000
+The FDA originally.
+
+01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:54.000
+Started.
+
+01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:58.000
+Badmouling hydroxychloroquine.
+
+01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:00.000
+And.
+
+01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:04.000
+Pete Navarro had managed to get 62 million doses.
+
+01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:05.000
+I don't know if he stole it.
+
+01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:09.000
+I don't know what he did, but suddenly he had 62 million doses.
+
+01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:10.000
+He and.
+
+01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:13.000
+Well, Catholic and Asper work together.
+
+01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:15.000
+And they were in the national stockpile ready.
+
+01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.000
+They were going out to the pharmacies.
+
+01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:19.000
+You know, Cardinal McKenzie.
+
+01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:24.000
+There's like three or four companies that deliver pharmaceuticals out to your local pharmacies.
+
+01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:28.000
+And they were already surging that doctors were writing prescriptions in New York.
+
+01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:30.000
+This stuff was working.
+
+01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:36.000
+There was no signs of any, any, and these were early within the first seven days of feeling symptoms.
+
+01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:39.000
+That's when any drug has it's not any infection.
+
+01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:43.000
+So when it has its maximum effect, you get a paper cut.
+
+01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:46.000
+Oh, no, I'm not going to do anything. It gets infected.
+
+01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:48.000
+No, I'm not going to do anything.
+
+01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:50.000
+And then eventually we're cutting your hand off.
+
+01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:51.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:53.000
+Because it's gone gangrenous, right?
+
+01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:56.000
+So the earlier you treat any infectious disease.
+
+01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:58.000
+The better it's going to be.
+
+01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:00.000
+The more affecting the drug work.
+
+01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:02.000
+Once you end up in hospital with COVID.
+
+01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:04.000
+And you're short of breath, which brings them in.
+
+01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:07.000
+Your lungs are already involved.
+
+01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:10.000
+And if it keeps going, you've got about four days.
+
+01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:12.000
+Once you start shortness of breath.
+
+01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:16.000
+And then you're going to migrate into like sepsis, which.
+
+01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:20.000
+Depending on the organism can have a 70% mortality rate.
+
+01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:21.000
+Okay.
+
+01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:24.000
+Once you go on that ventilator, this is not, not a good idea.
+
+01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:26.000
+Because that makes things worse.
+
+01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:31.000
+So the idea was to.
+
+01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:33.000
+Surge.
+
+01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:35.000
+This drug out to the pharmacy.
+
+01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.000
+You had to have it on a prescription.
+
+01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:42.000
+So that was all about enforcing the fact that, that COVID was super deadly, right?
+
+01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:47.000
+He said, once you're in the hospital with COVID, you can get like sepsis and stuff.
+
+01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:51.000
+So is that still happening now?
+
+01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:55.000
+Is, did he, does he think that that happened everywhere?
+
+01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:57.000
+Where, where's the evidence for that?
+
+01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:00.000
+Like.
+
+01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:01.000
+You see what I'm talking about here?
+
+01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:03.000
+There's a real.
+
+01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:06.000
+Huge, wonderful.
+
+01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:14.000
+Campfire story being told here with very little details, like almost the start of a movie, you know, with a little narration.
+
+01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:18.000
+Or a little scroll going up into infinity.
+
+01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:22.000
+It's, it's ridiculous.
+
+01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:26.000
+Um, yeah.
+
+01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:35.000
+He said nothing about woodcock and bright yet, but I have woodcock and bright written down because I also know that Navarro.
+
+01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:48.000
+Seems to think that woodcock and bright used in EUA for hydroxychloroquine to discourage doctors from using it prophylactically.
+
+01:04:48.000 --> 01:05:01.000
+Um, because then pharmacists wouldn't give it out because pharmacists, when they were told that there was an emergency use authorization given for hydroxychloroquine to be used in the hospital,
+
+01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:21.000
+they could be bamboozled into believing that that also meant that if a doctor prescribed it over the counter or for prophylactic use that, that you as a pharmacist would kind of be obliged to say, no, there's an emergency use authorization for that in the hospitals.
+
+01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:33.000
+And then that emergency use authorization, I think was, or the trials that they did at least were for too high a concentration and given too late.
+
+01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:49.000
+So I don't know exactly how that narrative goes, but that's another one of these things where again, it just gets this, it gets this, these wheels turning where you're no longer questioning whether or not that whole reason for needing hydroxychloroquine is real or not.
+
+01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:56.000
+Or you stop questioning what is causing the need for hydroxychloroquine, let's say it that way.
+
+01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:00.000
+You just assume that it must be a virus, maybe it's a lab leak.
+
+01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:05.000
+And so that's why it went bad because they lied to us about what would work.
+
+01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:10.000
+Oh, otherwise everything would have been fine or better.
+
+01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:18.000
+But then that doesn't question the novel virus, it doesn't question that millions were dead and it doesn't question that millions could have been saved.
+
+01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:25.000
+It doesn't question whether MR and A work tonight, yet these guys are never even not even close to that.
+
+01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:31.000
+And there's certainly not questioning whether the virus can come again. What a wonderful faith testament this is.
+
+01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:36.000
+It had, it was a physiological effect, it slightly prolonged your heartbeat.
+
+01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:42.000
+But it had been doing that for 50 years and there was never any overwhelming cardiac epidemics or reverse reactions.
+
+01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:50.000
+It was just something noted, if you wired them up to an ECG, sometimes they're prolonged the length of the heartbeat.
+
+01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:55.000
+So these were searched out and doctors were using that and they kept using that because it was effective.
+
+01:06:55.000 --> 01:07:07.000
+And Janet Woodcock, who was the head of cedar at the moment, the FDA drug advisory committee safety.
+
+01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:19.000
+She phoned Rick Bright at Barda, biological advanced research development agency authority, whatever they call it, where who was controlling the stockpile and said, look, this drug is dangerous.
+
+01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:25.000
+It's going to kill thousands. If these Republicans let it go out.
+
+01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:28.000
+And.
+
+01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:36.000
+Brides, not a doctor, he's a PhD in vaccines.
+
+01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:39.000
+He couldn't read an ECG if his life depended on it.
+
+01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:42.000
+Nor is he a pharmacologist, nor is he a pathologist.
+
+01:07:42.000 --> 01:07:45.000
+Okay, he's.
+
+01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:47.000
+I think I caught it.
+
+01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:53.000
+I think I'd see what they're doing in this thing right here and it's very, very clever.
+
+01:07:53.000 --> 01:08:00.000
+So we've got the details that Woodcock and Bright were involved in distracting us from hydroxychloroquine.
+
+01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:03.000
+That's what he's going to say.
+
+01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:20.000
+And now he's trying to assert what the motivation was and who was motivating who with what or who told who to do what, who convinced who to believe what, who was the naive one in this.
+
+01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:33.000
+And you're going to hear a very, very, and I wonder if I, if, if he's a tonic is still in the chat, because if he is, I think he's, if he's listening, he should really listen right now.
+
+01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:35.000
+I'm going to go back about 10 more seconds.
+
+01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:38.000
+Do it one more time for any, whatever they call it.
+
+01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:44.000
+Well, who was controlling the stockpile and said, look, this drug is dangerous. It's going to kill thousands.
+
+01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:49.000
+If these Republicans let it go out.
+
+01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:59.000
+And, um, Brides, not a doctor, he's a PhD in vaccines.
+
+01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:06.000
+He could read an ECG of his life dependent on it, nor is he a pharmacologist, nor is he a pathologist.
+
+01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:12.000
+Okay, he's scientists are bureaucrats.
+
+01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:15.000
+Very narrow field, vaccinology.
+
+01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:18.000
+So he, he just took what Woodcock said.
+
+01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:27.000
+And, uh, instead of getting a investigational drug authority, some of our friends overseas gave us the hydroxychloroquine.
+
+01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:31.000
+But it was with the understanding that it wasn't going to be sold on the market.
+
+01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:35.000
+Okay, because we, we use the drug for like rheumatoid arthritis.
+
+01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:39.000
+For a condition called systemic lupus erythromatosis.
+
+01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:43.000
+For a disorder called, uh, sarcoid.
+
+01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:49.000
+It has a powerful effect in some of other diseases, and it's always proven itself to be very safe.
+
+01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:53.000
+Grandma's taking it at the same dose that we wanted to give.
+
+01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:56.000
+Young people, old people.
+
+01:09:56.000 --> 01:10:03.000
+Okay, kids we didn't worry about because the data was showing that like they don't really get sick.
+
+01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:05.000
+Okay.
+
+01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.000
+They, um, they just like maybe they're like.
+
+01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:14.000
+Cross and irritable for a day, most of them, unless there's something really seriously wrong with the child like a teen or something like that.
+
+01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:21.000
+They just kind of get sick for a day or two, shrug it off and they've got permanent immunity, at least for months until the virus changes.
+
+01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:24.000
+So it wasn't really a problem.
+
+01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.000
+Young adults were getting sick and missing a couple of days work.
+
+01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:30.000
+Okay, so as far as I'm concerned, I don't know when he's going to stop.
+
+01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:35.000
+So I'm going to just say it right now, but I think that this is this is probably incorrect.
+
+01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:49.000
+And the reason why I think it's incorrect is if I recall correctly, there is a at least one interview with Rick Bright, where he's a little bit annoyed with, uh, hydroxy chloroquine.
+
+01:10:50.000 --> 01:11:00.000
+And, um, I also seem to recall what I said earlier, which is that Woodcock and Bright used an EUA.
+
+01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:18.000
+It was characterized as that, that Bright and Woodcock were characterized by Navarro, I think, as having spoken in a meeting and said to one another,
+
+01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:27.000
+how can we, you know, put hydroxy chloroquine out of plane and, or something to that effect?
+
+01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:34.000
+And the way that they decided to do it was to give it an EUA for in-hospital use.
+
+01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:45.000
+And that EUA for in-hospital use could be directly or indirectly used to imply to pharmacies around the world and are around the United States,
+
+01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:56.000
+that over-the-counter distribution of hydroxy chloroquine and, and prophylactic prescription of it would be kind of contrary to this emergency use authorization.
+
+01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:07.000
+Even though it was already a pre-approved available, you know, it's on the list of things that doctors can prescribe and it doesn't really matter why they do it.
+
+01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:13.000
+But remember, this is a pandemic.
+
+01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:17.000
+It is a national security priority.
+
+01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:19.000
+All bets are off here.
+
+01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:30.000
+If we have to save people in the hospital, we don't want people just wasting hydroxy chloroquine because they're panicking over what they saw on television.
+
+01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:48.000
+And so the emergency use authorization for hydroxy chloroquine in hospitals did not result in its use because it wasn't on the CDC protocols,
+
+01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:51.000
+but it did result in clinical trials.
+
+01:12:51.000 --> 01:13:07.000
+You see the game that Rick Bright played in order to make hydroxy chloroquine essentially be on equal or even worse footing than Remdesivir?
+
+01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:17.000
+It's my understanding that Rick Bright had a much more active role in the opposition to hydroxy chloroquine being used.
+
+01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:34.000
+And it makes perfect sense if, as what, what Peter, or what, yeah, what, what Stephen Hadfield just said that Cadlick was also involved in Navarro's acquisition of doses of hydroxy chloroquine.
+
+01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:40.000
+So now already that Rick Bright had been demoted.
+
+01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:46.000
+Maybe it was in, in even more of a thing for Rick Bright.
+
+01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:49.000
+I could have those two time frames mixed up there.
+
+01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:53.000
+Maybe he got demoted after this, this whole thing with hydroxy chloroquine happened.
+
+01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:57.000
+I'm not sure.
+
+01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:14.000
+But I think this is interesting because I think we're not talking about Remdesivir here when in reality, the, the reason and one of the most important reasons why hydroxy chloroquine, even as a lash ditch effort, couldn't be allowed to be out there.
+
+01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:17.000
+Don't forget Dr. Zelenko was using it.
+
+01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:26.000
+Don't forget Dr. Zelenko treated lots of people in Congress with it.
+
+01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:28.000
+But they couldn't let that go mainstream.
+
+01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:37.000
+They made that seem to be something that, that, that Trump was advocating for and therefore half the country was want not to do it.
+
+01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:41.000
+That was a magic, that was a magic enchantment you might have forgotten.
+
+01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:47.000
+But by Trump saying the word, half of the country was sure they weren't ever going to use it.
+
+01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:52.000
+And all those pharmacists, well they know.
+
+01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:55.000
+That's magic, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+01:14:55.000 --> 01:15:00.000
+That's modern magic. That's how it works.
+
+01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:07.000
+And that's what this is. This is still in a continuation of the enchantment over and over again.
+
+01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:09.000
+The pink letters.
+
+01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:12.000
+There was a novel virus for which we had to do something.
+
+01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:15.000
+Millions died and millions were saved.
+
+01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:22.000
+Gain a function is real and a virus will come again.
+
+01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:26.000
+But they were, I mean this thing had less than a 1% death rate.
+
+01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:30.000
+It was an incapacitating agent, if anything.
+
+01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.000
+The older people, the people.
+
+01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:39.000
+It was an incapacitating agent, if anything. I mean, who else uses those terms?
+
+01:15:39.000 --> 01:15:44.000
+Who else uses those terms? I mean, come on, could this get any more comical here?
+
+01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:51.000
+Hypertension, obesity, cardiac disease, respiratory disease, diabetes, these type of things.
+
+01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:52.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:56.000
+Rancid yellow's wife worked on hydroxychloroquine for 20 years.
+
+01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:58.000
+I mean, sorry, Ivermectin for 20 years.
+
+01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:03.000
+Chronic diseases, it was killing them. This is where most of our deaths came from.
+
+01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:06.000
+It's called comorbidities.
+
+01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:08.000
+So this would be the targeted population.
+
+01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:12.000
+Probably you would want to get these people on this drug early.
+
+01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:18.000
+Some of them had heart problems. A lot of old people have heart problems.
+
+01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:25.000
+So that would be the doctor's choice, right? Targeted distribution.
+
+01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:28.000
+So that was the plan.
+
+01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.000
+Where was the plan?
+
+01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:33.000
+Maybe he's talking about hydroxychloroquine for old people.
+
+01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:35.000
+Sorry, I was a little bit confused there for a second.
+
+01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:36.000
+I think that's what he's talking about.
+
+01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:39.000
+He seemed to be able to find the plan.
+
+01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:42.000
+And now there's people trying to.
+
+01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:45.000
+Saying that this drug is dangerous.
+
+01:16:45.000 --> 01:16:48.000
+And it should only be given in hospital.
+
+01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:51.000
+So instead of an investigation on new drug authority.
+
+01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:55.000
+Barda and the FDA come out with what's called an emergency use authorization.
+
+01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:56.000
+Here we go.
+
+01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:03.000
+And with the proviso, this needs to be given in hospital, not as an outpatient.
+
+01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:07.000
+Well, if you're in hospital, you're in the second phase of the disease.
+
+01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:10.000
+If you're three days into the hospital.
+
+01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:16.000
+You're in sepsis. There's no drug that's going to work for that properly.
+
+01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:22.000
+Well, Dr. Fauci added his drug remdesivir.
+
+01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:25.000
+And he came in and told the president of the United States that.
+
+01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:30.000
+It looked like they could have a vaccine pretty quickly.
+
+01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:33.000
+President doesn't go to medical school.
+
+01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:34.000
+Right.
+
+01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:42.000
+So it seems to me that that really absolved Rick Bright of any role in advocating for remdesivir.
+
+01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:45.000
+I really do.
+
+01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:51.000
+And I'm not, I just think it removed Rick, Rick Bright on purpose.
+
+01:17:51.000 --> 01:18:13.000
+Like there was no reason to tell a story about, about specifically woodcock calling Bright to warn him that hydroxychloricone will kill thousands because of its cardiac effects and then to make fun of Rick Bright because he couldn't read a cardiac P wave if, you know,
+
+01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:18.000
+that right there is a dead giveaway.
+
+01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:22.000
+That you are being enchanted.
+
+01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:34.000
+He's, he's taking Rick Bright out on out of the, the loop of responsibility on purpose and specifically out of the loop of responsibility for remdesivir.
+
+01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:45.000
+And instead tying it solely around the neck of Fauci, which essentially cuts its connection all the way back to.
+
+01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:49.000
+Cina Bovari.
+
+01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:54.000
+Because if you just say it was Fauci who had remdesivir, you don't connect it to Cina Bovari.
+
+01:18:54.000 --> 01:19:00.000
+If you say that Rick Bright was also advocating for it, now there's wheels turning.
+
+01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:04.000
+That mean what, wait, who, where did it come from then and who was involved in it before.
+
+01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:09.000
+Oh, wait, I see it goes back this direction.
+
+01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:16.000
+Oh, I see marks links matter if you go this direction, but if you go to Fauci, it's just kind of this dead end.
+
+01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:23.000
+Thirty eight year dead end of a little guy in an office.
+
+01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:27.000
+This is magical.
+
+01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:30.000
+Because that's where we're at.
+
+01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:38.000
+That's how clearly we can see the bricks.
+
+01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:44.000
+He's got what was given to him as the top people in the country.
+
+01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:48.000
+He doesn't know if they're frank idiots or conflicts of interest or what.
+
+01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:51.000
+Some of them have been in the government for years.
+
+01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:57.000
+So not being a doctor wouldn't you assume that these people know what they're doing.
+
+01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:02.000
+Well, and I refuse to believe this till probably about near the end of 2020.
+
+01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:05.000
+I couldn't believe what was happening.
+
+01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:09.000
+And I came out of the White House 3rd of February, 2020.
+
+01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:12.000
+I left after the translation.
+
+01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:15.000
+In fact, they threw us out.
+
+01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:17.000
+So we were the last to leave.
+
+01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:20.000
+So fighting this thing.
+
+01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:26.000
+So now all the doctors, you know, you come home, you've seen 40 patients, private practice are done.
+
+01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:29.000
+You know, two bypasses or whatever.
+
+01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:31.000
+You're tired, right?
+
+01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:32.000
+You want to kick your feet up.
+
+01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:34.000
+You want to catch up on the news.
+
+01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:36.000
+You don't want to read a medical journal.
+
+01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:40.000
+You want supper, play with the kids, go to bed, repeat.
+
+01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:41.000
+Right?
+
+01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:42.000
+Sure.
+
+01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:46.000
+You've got patients counting on you to be at your best.
+
+01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:48.000
+Okay.
+
+01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:50.000
+Turn on your news.
+
+01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:55.000
+And there were a couple faulty studies, but never should have made it through what we call peer review.
+
+01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:58.000
+I mean, they were, they were just garbage.
+
+01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:02.000
+The first paper came out of Brazil with hydroxychloroquine.
+
+01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:04.000
+And you're looking at the dose.
+
+01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:07.000
+He just, they gave these people a lethal dose.
+
+01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:09.000
+It's cumulative, right?
+
+01:21:09.000 --> 01:21:12.000
+Hydroxychloroquine stays in your body quite a while.
+
+01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:16.000
+And now you're doing another obscene dose and then another obscene,
+
+01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:21.000
+and it built up to toxic levels and all the patients were dying and they're wondering, oh, well.
+
+01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:26.000
+And so again, the argument is, is that we needed something in hydroxychloroquine might have been it,
+
+01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:29.000
+but they covered it all up.
+
+01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:34.000
+And that, again, doesn't change the narrative of a novel virus that millions of people died from
+
+01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:39.000
+and millions of people could have been saved from.
+
+01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:43.000
+It's exactly the narrative.
+
+01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:51.000
+And by talking about this over and over again, he's reinforcing the faith with Tommy and all of his viewers.
+
+01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:57.000
+And they think they're having a very lively debate within this controlled spectrum.
+
+01:21:57.000 --> 01:22:01.000
+And so therefore it feels like there's something solved here.
+
+01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:04.000
+If I agree with those two guys, then what is it?
+
+01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:06.000
+It's a consensus of three.
+
+01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:12.000
+Tommy apparently agrees with Stephen, who am I to argue?
+
+01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:18.000
+And the spell is cast.
+
+01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:20.000
+That's how this works, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:22.000
+And they're going to keep doing this.
+
+01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:32.000
+Unfortunately, I can tell you that tomorrow that we're going to have to watch this.
+
+01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:36.000
+I wish that would, maybe I can refresh this and then that will be there again.
+
+01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:38.000
+I can pause it.
+
+01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:40.000
+No, why is it playing automatically?
+
+01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:41.000
+Oh, it's rumble.
+
+01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:46.000
+Damn it.
+
+01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:49.000
+Yeah, this happened.
+
+01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:59.000
+And I'm pretty sure that the presentation of the DNA contamination and the ways that it's detected will be sound.
+
+01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:10.000
+But I'm also pretty sure that we won't talk about the PCR fraud.
+
+01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:12.000
+We won't talk about testing fraud.
+
+01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:17.000
+We won't talk about the RNA contamination and then the impurities.
+
+01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:21.000
+We won't talk about codon optimization and protein folding.
+
+01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:27.000
+We're not going to talk about RNA, G protein or G quadriplexes.
+
+01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:32.000
+We're not going to talk about premature stop codons due to pseudoridine.
+
+01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:39.000
+We're not going to talk about any of the other possibilities to do with lipid nanoparticles coagulating
+
+01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:47.000
+or any of the other possibles, millions of possibilities perhaps of the ways that those things can be toxic
+
+01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:49.000
+if they're manufactured correctly or incorrectly.
+
+01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:58.000
+We're not going to talk about any of those things and we're going to focus exclusively on the DNA contamination
+
+01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:02.000
+and the possibilities of all the DNA that's there.
+
+01:24:02.000 --> 01:24:08.000
+If it's SV40 or this enhancer or that enhancer, they're going to tell us stories
+
+01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:16.000
+about what that DNA makes the transfections possible to do.
+
+01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:20.000
+But they're going to try and rope in everything into that.
+
+01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:22.000
+That is the goal.
+
+01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:31.000
+And the bait and switch is going to be that it's very enticing because
+
+01:24:31.000 --> 01:24:37.000
+we need something that I could go back to my brother and say,
+
+01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:43.000
+hey man, I know you didn't believe a lot of the stuff I was saying about masks and about the virus and stuff
+
+01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:48.000
+but I mean, can you see that there's DNA in the shot and that's pretty bad?
+
+01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:50.000
+And it's very tempting.
+
+01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:54.000
+It's really very tempting to think that that's how it's going to go.
+
+01:24:54.000 --> 01:25:02.000
+That it's going to be the first sort of thing that will start to really open people's minds
+
+01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:05.000
+and then we can get them all the way over the finish line.
+
+01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:08.000
+But that's not the plan.
+
+01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:13.000
+That's not where the Scooby-Doo mystery is going to go.
+
+01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:20.000
+But that is where they want you to believe that making this choice will lead to.
+
+01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:28.000
+If we just all rally behind these guys and make sure that this DNA contamination is removed
+
+01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:36.000
+and we regulate the industry so that this is a new thing that we're aware of and it's a standard
+
+01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:41.000
+or maybe we don't even use these silly bacteria anymore.
+
+01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:48.000
+That's what this is about.
+
+01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:53.000
+It's about whitewashing the idea that transfection was a bad idea.
+
+01:25:53.000 --> 01:26:00.000
+Just like Vay John Health, Philip McMillan, the acolyte of Robert Malone was saying.
+
+01:26:00.000 --> 01:26:05.000
+We should have used this technology a little bit more carefully and selectively.
+
+01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:14.000
+And we should have been more careful with how we made it.
+
+01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:19.000
+If we regulate these products a little better next time, if we use a little more quality control,
+
+01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:27.000
+if we just use fluorometry instead of PCR, everything would have been fine.
+
+01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:32.000
+That's where this is going.
+
+01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:43.000
+So any who I'll just wrap it up real quick to say that this faith is an illusion of consensus.
+
+01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:46.000
+This is what these people were sent to do.
+
+01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:55.000
+And it's only become clear to me in 2023 that this is the case because that's how elaborate the scheme was.
+
+01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:57.000
+We were surrounded.
+
+01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:01.000
+And I think actually in many ways we remain surrounded.
+
+01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:11.000
+And so it is of utmost importance that we continue to remain honest and vigilant, but we are still surrounded.
+
+01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:13.000
+They basically have us check mated.
+
+01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:18.000
+They control all the important things and they demonstrated how check mated we are
+
+01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:22.000
+by what they were able to perform over the last three years.
+
+01:27:23.000 --> 01:27:35.000
+And now we are entering a time of even probably more strife and chaos because of all of the polarization that will occur around the election that's coming.
+
+01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:51.000
+So I think this holiday season, Thanksgiving, I mean, even Halloween coming up, Thanksgiving and Christmas, these holidays might be the time for us to really try and one more time break through
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+That's the thing I don't like about it. It's a lie to say to my neighbors that, well, now that we know that there's DNA in there, now do you believe me that it was bad?
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+It's a lie just about what happened over time about a novel virus.
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+I don't know. It's, it's hard sometimes to really be, to be completely positive.
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+And I'm really, really excited about that. So it's just a matter of keeping the steady pressure.
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+I'm not sure if this is 47 or 48 or what it is.
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+Don't forget that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
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+And transfection is not immunization, so please stop it, because we really, really, really don't need it.
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+We stream every day.
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+I am happy to report. I have three days of pretty dang good sleep.
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+And my throat still feels pretty good. I do think that it's settling in a little deeper than it was yesterday.
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+Thank goodness we are closer to healthy. At least that's what I think.
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+Keep my gain on my microphone up.
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+Thanks for joining me guys. We'll see you tomorrow.
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+Tomorrow is 50. Oh my goodness. That's exciting. What is tomorrow? It's tomorrow Thursday or Wednesday?
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+Tuesday, Wednesday. Okay. Oh my goodness. I'm excited.
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+Wednesday is 50. Oh my goodness. This is really great.
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+Okay guys, man. I'm so happy. Thanks guys.
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+As usual tonight we are trying to break this limited spectrum of debate and this brilliant discussion within it
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+This may be the battle of our lifetime
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+Powerful speakers like Bearish Arab
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+Good morning children's health defense today is Tuesday October 24th
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+And we have a very exciting guest with us today
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+Kevin McCurnan, scientist who's going to be talking with us about the DNA contamination
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+Pfizer's but also others will be joined by our chief science officer Brian Hooker
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+Part of the context for this show is an article that defender published on Friday last week
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+This is very important because it suggests that now governments are on notice that they have to do something about this
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+What Canada has said so far is they've looked at this and believed that the benefits still outweigh the risk
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+Really one of the most dramatic elements of this is that inside this DNA plasmid contamination
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+Welcome Dr. Kevin McCurnan and Dr. Brian Hooker
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+I'm really thrilled to have both of you here with us
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+So Brian, you're of course our science director here at Children's Health Defense
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+On Kevin, you have an incredibly impressive background in science
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+Would you just give us the quick highlights so that our viewers know how extensive your scientific credentials are?
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+Certainly, well, I guess I'll shoot myself in the foot and tell you I dropped up a PhD program
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+Is that right? And you've stumbled on an incredible important finding
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+But now I see there's a plasmid in here that I can't hide from
+
+20:17.540 --> 20:21.540
+And I've got to put it public as quickly as I can, as responsibly as I can
+
+20:22.540 --> 20:25.540
+And so we chose to do that by releasing all of these really rapid sub-stack articles
+
+20:26.540 --> 20:31.540
+Because you just couldn't see this getting through the peer review process in a timely manner given the political nature of it right now
+
+20:32.540 --> 20:34.540
+I'm ignorant, I'm not a scientist
+
+20:35.540 --> 20:38.540
+Walk us back a little bit, explain to our viewers what is a plasmid
+
+20:39.540 --> 20:41.540
+What did you find here, what does that mean for us?
+
+20:43.540 --> 20:47.540
+So when the clinical trials, I want to be clear, this is mostly pertaining to Pfizer
+
+20:48.540 --> 20:51.540
+We sequence Pfizer and Moderna, but there's different background to them
+
+20:52.540 --> 20:56.540
+So Pfizer's trial started by generating, you need to make this RNA
+
+20:57.540 --> 21:01.540
+In order to make this RNA, you need to feed a DNA template to read the RNA from
+
+21:02.540 --> 21:04.540
+So it's called an in vitro transcription reaction
+
+21:05.540 --> 21:09.540
+You present an RNA polymerase with a piece of DNA and it starts making RNA off of it
+
+21:10.540 --> 21:12.540
+It's kind of like, you know, it's the ink for your Xerox machine, if you will
+
+21:14.540 --> 21:17.540
+So they started the clinical trial with DNA that was amplified with PCR
+
+21:18.540 --> 21:23.540
+Which is really clean DNA, because when you amplify it, it raises the amount of DNA from background, a million full
+
+21:24.540 --> 21:29.540
+So there's no residual background, you get a really clean piece of DNA that you can make your RNA from
+
+21:30.540 --> 21:32.540
+That was what the trial was run out, it's called process one
+
+21:33.540 --> 21:36.540
+Resif Levy and Josh Goodscow have a good paper on this and the BMJ
+
+21:37.540 --> 21:41.540
+Then after the trial was done, they did a debate and switch and they changed the manufacturing process for scale-up
+
+21:42.540 --> 21:46.540
+By taking that piece of DNA that they use that they PCR'd and uses a template in process one
+
+21:47.540 --> 21:50.540
+They plugged it into a bacterial clasmid with such a circular piece of DNA
+
+21:51.540 --> 21:55.540
+That allows something that allows a bug like E. coli to replicate it every 30 minutes
+
+21:56.540 --> 21:58.540
+That means they can have an infinite supply of their DNA
+
+21:58.540 --> 22:03.540
+They just have to keep growing the E. coli day-to-day and they don't ever have to use PCR again
+
+22:03.540 --> 22:05.540
+So it's a real massive cost reduction for them
+
+22:06.540 --> 22:10.540
+But it comes with some additional risk is that you now have this DNA being replicated in the E. coli
+
+22:11.540 --> 22:14.540
+And it's not good to inject people with E. coli, so you have to get the DNA out of E. coli
+
+22:15.540 --> 22:20.540
+And the process of getting that DNA out of E. coli comes with inherent contaminants that weren't in the original trial
+
+22:21.540 --> 22:25.540
+The plasmid DNA is one of them, which is a large 7,800 base pair piece of DNA
+
+22:26.540 --> 22:29.540
+And there's also the potential for endotoxin to come through from the E. coli
+
+22:30.540 --> 22:33.540
+So there's a material difference between the trial and what people actually got
+
+22:34.540 --> 22:36.540
+And that's an important part of the story that everyone needs to know
+
+22:37.540 --> 22:42.540
+Now what we're trying to do is figure out what is the consequence of this plasmid DNA being in there
+
+22:43.540 --> 22:46.540
+They knew it was there, they tried to get rid of it by chewing it up with an enzyme
+
+22:47.540 --> 22:50.540
+But they didn't get rid of it completely, they got it halfway chewed up
+
+22:51.540 --> 22:53.540
+Why didn't they get rid of it completely?
+
+22:54.540 --> 22:58.540
+I mean, they use an enzyme called DNase and DNase breaks down DNA
+
+22:59.540 --> 23:04.540
+Why wouldn't that completely eliminate it? Two questions, why wouldn't that completely eliminate it?
+
+23:05.540 --> 23:09.540
+And why didn't FDA approve both processes?
+
+23:10.540 --> 23:14.540
+They're both a process for the proof of principle as well as the process for production
+
+23:15.540 --> 23:16.540
+Or were they involved in the second part?
+
+23:17.540 --> 23:22.540
+So I'll answer the second part first, which is that there was some discussion in the EMA
+
+23:23.540 --> 23:25.540
+I don't know what's happened at the FDA because we have less authority there
+
+23:26.540 --> 23:30.540
+There's some information at the EMA that I'm superimposing on the FDA in Health Canada
+
+23:30.540 --> 23:32.540
+Because I think similar things may occur there
+
+23:33.540 --> 23:37.540
+But at the EMA, they had an equivalency study that they were supposed to do
+
+23:38.540 --> 23:40.540
+Measuring 252 patients done with process 1 and process 2
+
+23:41.540 --> 23:45.540
+And as best we can tell that data was never matured and was never required for release
+
+23:46.540 --> 23:50.540
+They asked of it, but when Pfizer couldn't produce it, they kind of looked the other way
+
+23:52.540 --> 23:55.540
+So Josh has a good write up on that on Twitter
+
+23:56.540 --> 23:58.540
+And I'll point you to his work and Retsus Levy's work on this
+
+23:59.540 --> 24:02.540
+But your first question, which is why isn't the DNase killing this?
+
+24:03.540 --> 24:04.540
+It comes down to I think two reasons
+
+24:05.540 --> 24:08.540
+One, the way that they're measuring what's there has some blind spots
+
+24:09.540 --> 24:14.540
+And the second thing is they probably didn't anticipate that the modifications they made to the RNA
+
+24:15.540 --> 24:17.540
+Inhibit the DNase from doing its job
+
+24:18.540 --> 24:20.540
+So when they do this in vitro transcription reaction
+
+24:21.540 --> 24:24.540
+And they make this RNA, they put in a different nucleotide
+
+24:25.540 --> 24:26.540
+Notice N1 nucleosuduyridine
+
+24:27.540 --> 24:31.540
+So this altered nucleotide is actually what really got the attention of the Nobel Prize
+
+24:32.540 --> 24:40.540
+They put in a different nucleotide so that the RNA was less labile to an RNA's L that's in the human genome
+
+24:41.540 --> 24:44.540
+So the human body makes RNases that destroy RNA
+
+24:45.540 --> 24:48.540
+You know, the way RNA behaves is like your DNA, your DNA is like your hard drive
+
+24:49.540 --> 24:53.540
+Your RNA is like the task manager of all the programs that are opening and closing off that hard drive
+
+24:54.540 --> 24:58.540
+So the cell needs to have a system to not only turn a gene on, but to turn it off
+
+24:59.540 --> 25:01.540
+If it can't turn it off, then you have a problem
+
+25:02.540 --> 25:07.540
+So the way a lot of these get turned off is there are RNases that make sure that when a gene is expressed
+
+25:08.540 --> 25:10.540
+It's only expressed for a certain period of time that gets decayed
+
+25:11.540 --> 25:13.540
+But they put in this other base that stops that process from happening
+
+25:14.540 --> 25:16.540
+So that the RNA doesn't degrade, it's red or yes
+
+25:17.540 --> 25:19.540
+They put in something that turned off the off switch, is that correct?
+
+25:20.540 --> 25:22.540
+Yes, the RNA is harder to degrade
+
+25:23.540 --> 25:27.540
+And they wanted that so they ensured they got production of spike protein long enough to matter
+
+25:28.540 --> 25:30.540
+And there's a big debate as to whether it's too long right now
+
+25:31.540 --> 25:34.540
+Because we're finding this RNA stick around for way too long
+
+25:35.540 --> 25:40.540
+They thought it was only 48 hours, people can sequence out of plasma 28 days later, it's in breast milk now
+
+25:41.540 --> 25:44.540
+It's really a big train wreck in my opinion, they didn't need that
+
+25:45.540 --> 25:51.540
+But because of that base, that base also is published to radically change the melting temperature of DNA
+
+25:52.540 --> 25:56.540
+That means that it's much stickier, it's much harder to peel apart from DNA
+
+25:57.540 --> 26:02.540
+I think Colin Parr has a paper on this showing, if you just put four of these nucleotides into 25
+
+26:03.540 --> 26:07.540
+It raises the temperature 9C, the melting temperature, that's an enormous melting temperature
+
+26:08.540 --> 26:10.540
+For four bases of these things, yeah
+
+26:11.540 --> 26:15.540
+So that means that this RNA is extraordinarily sticky
+
+26:16.540 --> 26:19.540
+And that means it's very likely that it's making RNA DNA hybrid
+
+26:20.540 --> 26:23.540
+That when the RNA polymerase is copying the RNA off the DNA
+
+26:23.540 --> 26:28.540
+What you end up with is a triple helix, you end up with RNA kind of tangled up with DNA
+
+26:29.540 --> 26:32.540
+And a nucleus doesn't know how to get rid of the DNA in that context
+
+26:33.540 --> 26:35.540
+And this is really evident actually in Moderna's process
+
+26:36.540 --> 26:41.540
+Moderna, if you look at our paper, there's a hundredfold more spike DNA contamination than the plasma DNA
+
+26:42.540 --> 26:45.540
+The backbone that doesn't have any RNA similarity
+
+26:46.540 --> 26:52.540
+So that's a real clear set sign that the nucleus can destroy the DNA that doesn't have any complementary to RNA
+
+26:53.540 --> 26:58.540
+But it can't destroy the DNA that has complementary to the RNA that they're making
+
+26:59.540 --> 27:02.540
+So there's something I'd try to get rid of the DNA in that context
+
+27:03.540 --> 27:05.540
+And this is really evident actually in Moderna's process
+
+27:06.540 --> 27:12.540
+Moderna, if you look at our paper, there's a hundredfold more spike DNA contamination than the plasma DNA
+
+27:13.540 --> 27:15.540
+The backbone that doesn't have any RNA similarity
+
+27:17.540 --> 27:22.540
+So that's a real clear set sign that the nucleus can destroy the DNA that doesn't have any complementary
+
+27:23.540 --> 27:28.540
+to RNA, but it can't destroy the DNA that has complementary to the RNA that they're making
+
+27:29.540 --> 27:34.540
+So there's something I think they didn't see and anticipate because they changed this base
+
+27:35.540 --> 27:39.540
+They didn't realize the enzymes they typically used to get rid of this contaminant are no longer functional
+
+27:40.540 --> 27:43.540
+And so they now have to probably engineer different enzymes for this
+
+27:44.540 --> 27:50.540
+And DNase XT is a good idea, maybe T5, there's a host of these nucleases that might do a better job at this
+
+27:50.540 --> 27:54.540
+But I think with the Warp Speed program they didn't have time to really investigate this
+
+27:55.540 --> 27:58.540
+So that's one reason why the DNA is still there, there's a second reason
+
+27:59.540 --> 28:05.540
+The tools that you use to measure this differ based on the size of the DNA that's around
+
+28:06.540 --> 28:15.540
+So if you use something like barometry, this is a tool that uses a dye that is an intercalating dye that binds to like the minor groove of DNA
+
+28:16.540 --> 28:20.540
+These tools will measure DNA as small as like 5 to 10 bases
+
+28:21.540 --> 28:25.540
+It just has to be complementary at room temperature, that can be a 10 base pair piece of DNA
+
+28:26.540 --> 28:29.540
+You can get some cybergreen signal from it, a ribo green signal from
+
+28:30.540 --> 28:33.540
+QPCR needs at least 100 bases to amplify
+
+28:34.540 --> 28:36.540
+So all the DNA that's smaller than 100 bases, it can't see
+
+28:37.540 --> 28:42.540
+So they're using QPCR to monitor the DNA, they're using forometry to measure the RNA
+
+28:43.540 --> 28:48.540
+They're kind of playing some games there because they want to get really high RNA numbers and really low DNA numbers
+
+28:49.540 --> 28:55.540
+The EMA regulations aren't really a fixed amount of DNA, they're a ratio of how much RNA you have to how much DNA
+
+28:56.540 --> 28:59.540
+They're using two different processes to measure the DNA and the RNA
+
+29:00.540 --> 29:06.540
+But if I understand you correctly, they could be using one process for both or they could use both processes for both
+
+29:07.540 --> 29:08.540
+Absolutely, in fact
+
+29:09.540 --> 29:17.540
+That's absolutely right and I think anyone who's familiar with these bench tools knows the fact that they're deviating this is a game
+
+29:18.540 --> 29:22.540
+Because they had to make PCR primers to measure the spike DNA
+
+29:23.540 --> 29:25.540
+And all they have to do is change the polymerase to measure the RNA
+
+29:26.540 --> 29:31.540
+And they didn't do that, they opted to go get a whole other assay with a different instrument, with a different
+
+29:32.540 --> 29:36.540
+Forometry based readout to measure the RNA, they bent over backwards to measure the RNA differently
+
+29:37.540 --> 29:42.540
+They already had all the primers and tools, they needed to measure it with the PCR assay, they're using to measure the DNA
+
+29:43.540 --> 29:45.540
+You just swap the polymerase out and you get the answer the same day
+
+29:46.540 --> 29:48.540
+You did suggest gamesmanship, is that correct?
+
+29:49.540 --> 29:50.540
+And tend to deceive
+
+29:51.540 --> 29:53.540
+And tend to deceive, okay, got it
+
+29:54.540 --> 29:58.540
+And this data that you uncovered has been replicated around the world, is that right?
+
+29:59.540 --> 30:04.540
+Yes, many labs have now, so we put the primers public on our sub stack and in preprints
+
+30:05.540 --> 30:08.540
+And now people can just order those from IDT and make their own primers
+
+30:09.540 --> 30:13.540
+We have shipped Oslo primer lots that we have here when people didn't want to wait for IDT to remake these
+
+30:14.540 --> 30:20.540
+It can take IDT maybe a couple weeks sometimes to make these, so when people urgently want them, we'll ship them vials of our primers
+
+30:21.540 --> 30:26.540
+So Phillip Bockholz has confirmed this work by using our primers down in South Carolina
+
+30:27.540 --> 30:30.540
+He also went on to do Oxford Nanopore sequencing to confirm our work
+
+30:31.540 --> 30:35.540
+Just not to trust what we told him was working, he was doing what our primers were doing, he said alright
+
+30:36.540 --> 30:38.540
+Your primers clearly give me signal on my vaccine lots
+
+30:39.540 --> 30:43.540
+I'm now going to sequence them and make sure I can find the sequences of your primers inside my vials
+
+30:44.540 --> 30:49.540
+And he went and did that and confirmed that the DNA that he actually has in his vials matches the primer sequences we gave him
+
+30:52.540 --> 30:56.540
+Dr. Sin Lee did this at Milford molecular was saying our sequencing
+
+30:56.540 --> 31:01.540
+And he was doing what we were doing, we were doing what we were doing, we were doing what we were doing
+
+31:02.540 --> 31:07.540
+We were doing what we were doing, we were doing what we were doing, we were doing what we were doing
+
+31:08.540 --> 31:11.540
+Your primers clearly give me signal on my vaccine lots
+
+31:12.540 --> 31:16.540
+I'm now going to sequence them and make sure I can find the sequences of your primers inside my vials
+
+31:17.540 --> 31:22.540
+And he went and did that and confirmed that the DNA that he actually has in his vials matches the primer sequences we gave him
+
+31:23.540 --> 31:29.540
+I find that a very strange statement because why would you look for the primer sequences in the vial?
+
+31:31.540 --> 31:36.540
+If you're using nanopore, why wouldn't you just get all the sequences out of the vial?
+
+31:38.540 --> 31:41.540
+If you're using nanopore, I don't even know why you need to look what
+
+31:45.540 --> 31:50.540
+I don't know, the primers are supposed to be a very tiny probe for a longer sequence
+
+31:52.540 --> 32:05.540
+So I don't know how confirming that the primers are in the vial is any different than just confirming that there's DNA in the vial using nanopore without using his primers
+
+32:08.540 --> 32:19.540
+Or does he just mean that like as an extra control the actual primer sequence is actually in the bottle along with all the extended sequence that comes along with it, I assume?
+
+32:20.540 --> 32:25.540
+It seems like a weird statement, but you know, I'm not a molecular biologist. Maybe it makes more sense to somebody like Kevin
+
+32:27.540 --> 32:32.540
+Dr. Lynn, Dr. Sin Lee did this at Milford Molecular with Sanger sequencing
+
+32:33.540 --> 32:40.540
+He amplified, he made his own primers and he amplified, he emplied some large fragments to like 366 base pair of fragments to show that there's bigger fragments in there
+
+32:41.540 --> 32:44.540
+And Sanger sequenced those to prove that it's in fact in the vials
+
+32:45.540 --> 32:53.540
+And now the most recent study, I heard of one in Germany, I don't have a date of one in Germany, but Bridget Koenig claims to have found it in four vials out there as well
+
+32:54.540 --> 33:08.540
+And so what I'm interested in is the argument that I see forming here is PCR can find in theory a single molecule of DNA
+
+33:09.540 --> 33:25.540
+And so PCR may be able to find a very tiny amount of DNA which is lower than the agreement said
+
+33:27.540 --> 33:35.540
+And if we are essentially just saying, yeah, there's DNA in the vial and Pfizer can say, well, yeah, I guess there is some DNA in the vial but it's not too much
+
+33:36.540 --> 33:41.540
+Or they can say, well, yeah, but there's DNA in that stuff too and there's DNA in that stuff too
+
+33:42.540 --> 33:49.540
+So what difference does it make if there's a little DNA in this stuff? I mean, I understand the argument here that this shouldn't be there but
+
+33:51.540 --> 34:02.540
+We are being tempted to jump on this as if it's the magic answer to why everything went wrong and how we can now stick the knife in
+
+34:03.540 --> 34:16.540
+And we're putting all of our eggs in the basket of Kevin McCurnan that he's right that his measurements of vials are right
+
+34:17.540 --> 34:31.540
+And that nobody's gonna debunk this in a couple weeks by saying that, well, his primers weren't very specific or his PCR reaction doesn't isn't up to snuff because of this reason or because of that reason
+
+34:33.540 --> 34:42.540
+We have to be very, very careful here because there's a million reasons not to think that regular old transfection
+
+34:43.540 --> 34:47.540
+Regular old transfection was not a good idea now what
+
+34:49.540 --> 34:51.540
+This is a compounding problem
+
+34:52.540 --> 35:01.540
+And it's not being explained as a compounding problem although I did catch him a couple pages ago saying that the RNA stays around as a result of the
+
+35:02.540 --> 35:09.540
+N1 methyl pseudo uridine whenever the chemical alteration is and that he said that's a big train wreck
+
+35:11.540 --> 35:14.540
+Now I want you to think very carefully about this because
+
+35:18.540 --> 35:27.540
+It should really be a sum total story about what's wrong with transfection in healthy humans but even the
+
+35:28.540 --> 35:37.540
+Problem of the chemical alteration of the RNA which he came on my stream twice to talk about has almost completely been left out of this narrative
+
+35:39.540 --> 35:42.540
+Except characterized as a pretty big train wreck and we'll move on
+
+35:48.540 --> 35:51.540
+And there's a reason for that because this is a play
+
+35:52.540 --> 35:58.540
+And we have to be very careful about what the play is and who the bad guys are or who the people who know what the you know
+
+35:58.540 --> 36:01.540
+It could be that Kevin is just trying to do his best
+
+36:02.540 --> 36:04.540
+You know he was just trying just needed a
+
+36:05.540 --> 36:07.540
+Apolly a RNA
+
+36:08.540 --> 36:11.540
+Control to troubleshoot his problem
+
+36:12.540 --> 36:15.540
+And lucky for him somebody sent him a couple vials of
+
+36:17.540 --> 36:19.540
+Vaccine without ice buckets
+
+36:20.540 --> 36:26.540
+And he decided to use it as an RNA control which meant that it was going to get sequenced
+
+36:27.540 --> 36:31.540
+And as a result he found the plasmid
+
+36:32.540 --> 36:37.540
+And so he feels obligated to tell everybody I mean unfortunately you know he didn't mean to do it
+
+36:40.540 --> 36:44.540
+He's not an anti-vaxxer he just happened to find the DNA there
+
+36:45.540 --> 36:51.540
+So he feels the obligation to report it he did it pre-print because you know I mean how long is it going to take to go through peer review?
+
+36:54.540 --> 36:59.540
+But the RNA was chemically altered and codon optimized and that's a complete train wreck by the way
+
+37:00.540 --> 37:02.540
+I heard it
+
+37:03.540 --> 37:07.540
+There's a group in Japan Hiroshi, Arkawa I think maybe from Lincoln's name
+
+37:08.540 --> 37:13.540
+But they've been doing some work on this as well they've reassembled our data and been looking at some PCR protocols
+
+37:14.540 --> 37:20.540
+But the most recent one is out of David Speakers work out in Ontario where he's got the largest study to date
+
+37:21.540 --> 37:27.540
+He went through 27 vials and he even did some XBB 1.5s and those still have the DNA in them
+
+37:29.540 --> 37:33.540
+Now there's two different methods that we used in the paper with David just to try to emulate what Pfizer's doing
+
+37:34.540 --> 37:38.540
+As we measured it with QPCR in which case the DNA is under the limit on everything he looked at
+
+37:39.540 --> 37:41.540
+A couple of them are getting really close to the line
+
+37:42.540 --> 37:44.540
+That limit is somewhat arbitrary and we'll touch on that
+
+37:45.540 --> 37:48.540
+Then he also measured it with fluorometry to show that they're like a hundred foot over the line if you pick a different tool
+
+37:49.540 --> 37:54.540
+To really emphasize that this game of cherry picking different methods is a racket
+
+37:55.540 --> 37:59.540
+And that you can get vastly different numbers if you measure this thing with different tools
+
+38:01.540 --> 38:07.540
+But I think the interesting part of David's study is they took the vaccine lots sorted them based on DNA quantity
+
+38:08.540 --> 38:16.540
+And then Jessica Rose dug in to VAERS and showed that there are higher adverse events reported in VAERS
+
+38:17.540 --> 38:19.540
+The lots that have higher amounts of DNA
+
+38:20.540 --> 38:22.540
+It's a small data set, there's a lot of confounders there
+
+38:23.540 --> 38:28.540
+It's really just a hypothesis, we have to study more lots to make sure that there aren't other confounders that are skewing that association
+
+38:29.540 --> 38:31.540
+But it does seem to line up with Philips data
+
+38:31.540 --> 38:35.540
+He has numbers that are over the limit and have high adverse events
+
+38:35.540 --> 38:37.540
+We had numbers over the limit that have high adverse events
+
+38:38.540 --> 38:43.540
+And there's another lot that was recorded in some EMA documentation
+
+38:44.540 --> 38:49.540
+FL 0007 that has really high adverse events and has really high DNA as well
+
+38:50.540 --> 38:54.540
+So there's a couple other pieces of data that aren't in our paper because they were done at other laboratories
+
+38:55.540 --> 38:59.540
+That reconfirm at least with Pfizer more DNA is trending with more adverse events
+
+39:00.540 --> 39:02.540
+We're not seeing that with Moderna, which is interesting
+
+39:03.540 --> 39:07.540
+The correlation seems to go the other direction there and they are doing a better job getting rid of it
+
+39:08.540 --> 39:10.540
+They're probably at a log scale lower amounts of DNA
+
+39:11.540 --> 39:15.540
+So they may be below the amount that matters and something else is driving their adverse events
+
+39:16.540 --> 39:22.540
+We've found and confirmed in several different labs including Phil Buckholt's labs and Sinley's labs
+
+39:23.540 --> 39:26.540
+You've confirmed the presence of double-stranded DNA
+
+39:27.540 --> 39:31.540
+And sizable quantities, I mean we're talking about nanogram per milligram quantities
+
+39:32.540 --> 39:35.540
+Or hundreds of nanogram per milligram quantities of DNA
+
+39:36.540 --> 39:41.540
+First of all, what are the implications of just having double-stranded DNA in those vials
+
+39:42.540 --> 39:46.540
+And medically and then second of all, what is in that DNA?
+
+39:47.540 --> 39:49.540
+I mean, what is hiding in that DNA?
+
+39:50.540 --> 39:52.540
+You know, what elements do we need to be concerned about?
+
+39:53.540 --> 39:58.540
+Well, hiding is a good point because I do think there's been some intent to deceive here as well
+
+39:59.540 --> 40:03.540
+So, particularly on Pfizer's behalf, if you were to take the DNA sequence
+
+40:04.540 --> 40:06.540
+Which apparently they did give the sequence to regulators
+
+40:07.540 --> 40:09.540
+But they only annotated certain pieces of it and not others
+
+40:10.540 --> 40:15.540
+And that's very bizarre because if you take their sequence and plug it into a standard software tool like snap gene
+
+40:16.540 --> 40:17.540
+It will annotate everything
+
+40:17.540 --> 40:22.540
+So someone had to actually go and delete these annotations and then can something to the regulators
+
+40:23.540 --> 40:25.540
+And the piece that they deleted, I think, is the most controversial piece
+
+40:26.540 --> 40:31.540
+It's this SV40 promoter that is known to have a nuclear targeting sequence in this
+
+40:32.540 --> 40:36.540
+This is a tandem repeat of 72 bases, about 144 bases in size
+
+40:37.540 --> 40:40.540
+That binds transcription factors and drives any DNA attached to it into the nucleus
+
+40:41.540 --> 40:44.540
+This is in the answer of the SV40 promoter
+
+40:44.540 --> 40:53.540
+SV40 was used in the SV40 Ori, the promoter, and but they never reported the enhancer's presence, is that correct?
+
+40:54.540 --> 40:56.540
+They didn't report any of the SV40 components
+
+40:57.540 --> 40:59.540
+In fact, I can pull up what they did report here
+
+41:00.540 --> 41:02.540
+What you see on the right is what they presented to the EMA
+
+41:03.540 --> 41:04.540
+I suspect this is what went to Health Canada as well
+
+41:05.540 --> 41:07.540
+And there's somewhat shocked by this from the most recent email I saw from them
+
+41:08.540 --> 41:13.540
+But you'll notice it annotates the spike protein, the Ori, the kenamycin gene
+
+41:14.540 --> 41:19.540
+It has this five base pair cut site down here that linearizes the plasma
+
+41:20.540 --> 41:21.540
+A couple other small pieces
+
+41:22.540 --> 41:25.540
+If you take their sequence and just shove it into something known as snap gene
+
+41:26.540 --> 41:28.540
+It annotates all the stuff automatically over here
+
+41:29.540 --> 41:30.540
+It's SV40 just pops out
+
+41:31.540 --> 41:33.540
+I didn't find SV40, snap gene found it
+
+41:34.540 --> 41:35.540
+I'm going to pull this back
+
+41:36.540 --> 41:41.540
+So on the right, the Ori and the Kan are, and the S protein explained to us
+
+41:42.540 --> 41:44.540
+What is that showing us on the right?
+
+41:45.540 --> 41:49.540
+And then what did they have to take out to get to what you showed us through snap chain on the left?
+
+41:50.540 --> 41:53.540
+Okay, so the bacterial origin of replication is here in blue
+
+41:54.540 --> 41:57.540
+So when you put this in a coli, it will double with the coli
+
+41:58.540 --> 42:00.540
+It probably runs the copy number to 50 to 100 copies in the cell
+
+42:01.540 --> 42:02.540
+And then the cells double over 30 minutes
+
+42:03.540 --> 42:04.540
+So it's a great Xerox machine for DNA
+
+42:05.540 --> 42:08.540
+But to make that happen in a coli, you have to put a kenamycin resistance gene in there
+
+42:09.540 --> 42:11.540
+So that only the coli cells that have the plasma survive
+
+42:12.540 --> 42:13.540
+That way you knock out all the background
+
+42:14.540 --> 42:15.540
+So this is the kenamycin gene
+
+42:16.540 --> 42:18.540
+Now this kenamycin gene won't work on its own
+
+42:19.540 --> 42:20.540
+It needs a promoter that they've materially omitted here
+
+42:21.540 --> 42:22.540
+Oh, interesting
+
+42:23.540 --> 42:24.540
+That's missing
+
+42:25.540 --> 42:26.540
+The graph on the right seems very strange
+
+42:27.540 --> 42:28.540
+Because that kenamycin wouldn't work without a promoter
+
+42:30.540 --> 42:31.540
+Correct
+
+42:31.540 --> 42:33.540
+The other thing about the SV40 promoter is it is active in mammalian cells
+
+42:34.540 --> 42:36.540
+And you really don't want mammalian promoters in any injectable
+
+42:37.540 --> 42:39.540
+They don't need this because they have
+
+42:40.540 --> 42:42.540
+If you look very carefully here
+
+42:43.540 --> 42:46.540
+There's also an AMP-R promoter that's kind of obscured over here in the left
+
+42:47.540 --> 42:49.540
+That's what Moderna uses the drive to kenamycin gene
+
+42:50.540 --> 42:52.540
+Pfizer has it too, they just happen to also have this mammalian promoter
+
+42:53.540 --> 42:54.540
+That is superfluous and shouldn't be there
+
+42:55.540 --> 42:57.540
+And they know it because they deleted it from the annotation
+
+42:58.540 --> 42:59.540
+That's an intent to deceive, they actually
+
+43:00.540 --> 43:01.540
+I believe so
+
+43:02.540 --> 43:04.540
+Because any annotation tool that annotated this plasma
+
+43:05.540 --> 43:06.540
+That got down to T7 promoters
+
+43:07.540 --> 43:08.540
+It found the bacterial origin
+
+43:09.540 --> 43:11.540
+It found, I think this F1 origin down here
+
+43:12.540 --> 43:13.540
+It would have found the SV40 origin
+
+43:15.540 --> 43:17.540
+So this was deleted, this was deleted
+
+43:18.540 --> 43:22.540
+Let's just do a little background gentlemen on SV40
+
+43:23.540 --> 43:25.540
+Maybe Brian, can you give us a little bit of background in the
+
+43:26.540 --> 43:28.540
+Vaccine context of what SV40 really is
+
+43:30.540 --> 43:32.540
+And Kevin, correct me if I'm wrong
+
+43:33.540 --> 43:41.540
+But the SV40, Simeon Virus 40, was an artifact of the polio vaccine
+
+43:42.540 --> 43:44.540
+The oral, the live polio vaccine
+
+43:46.540 --> 43:48.540
+In the 1950s and 1960s
+
+43:49.540 --> 43:53.540
+And it is oncogenic SV40 itself
+
+43:54.540 --> 43:59.540
+As the virus is associated with certain tumors, certain forms of cancer
+
+44:00.540 --> 44:02.540
+Certain aggressive forms of cancer
+
+44:03.540 --> 44:07.540
+And that it was a contaminant in the oral polio vaccine
+
+44:08.540 --> 44:10.540
+The live virus polio vaccine for many, many years
+
+44:11.540 --> 44:15.540
+And so having these elements, including the SV40 promoter
+
+44:16.540 --> 44:20.540
+Would in itself, I believe, would be oncogenic
+
+44:21.540 --> 44:26.540
+And then that SV40 element, that 72 base pair element
+
+44:27.540 --> 44:31.540
+Has been shown to tie with other oncogenes in vivo
+
+44:32.540 --> 44:36.540
+And act as an enhancer, enhances its ability to form cancers
+
+44:38.540 --> 44:40.540
+So I'm very new to SV40
+
+44:41.540 --> 44:43.540
+I've been learning this just in this last year
+
+44:43.540 --> 44:44.540
+So what's going on in the field
+
+44:45.540 --> 44:47.540
+Now we don't have the whole SV40 virus, which is 5.2 kilobases
+
+44:48.540 --> 44:51.540
+We have about 420 bases or so of it
+
+44:52.540 --> 44:53.540
+Which consists of four pieces
+
+44:54.540 --> 44:57.540
+We have the SV40 origin, the promoter, the enhancer and the polyase signal
+
+44:58.540 --> 44:59.540
+That are in there
+
+45:00.540 --> 45:04.540
+In SV40, I think, instructs it to put a polyase signal on a messenger RNA
+
+45:05.540 --> 45:07.540
+For some reason, that's sitting in this vector as well
+
+45:08.540 --> 45:09.540
+I haven't studied as much in what the polyase signal
+
+45:10.540 --> 45:12.540
+Why they need the polyase signal in this vector, that seems to be
+
+45:14.540 --> 45:17.540
+I think that's needed, if they want to express these plasmids of a million cells
+
+45:18.540 --> 45:20.540
+It's good to have something that puts a polyase signal on it
+
+45:20.540 --> 45:24.540
+And so they put that on the F1 origin for other reasons
+
+45:26.540 --> 45:29.540
+So that being said, a lot of pushback is, hey, this doesn't have the T antigen
+
+45:30.540 --> 45:34.540
+The tumor antigen is what is deemed to be the carcinogen in SV40
+
+45:35.540 --> 45:38.540
+And so you guys are conflating SV40 with the virus
+
+45:39.540 --> 45:41.540
+You're spreading fear porn and all that
+
+45:42.540 --> 45:46.540
+I think an important thing to know is that a large portion of the population
+
+45:47.540 --> 45:49.540
+Is SV40 positive from the polio vaccine?
+
+45:50.540 --> 45:51.540
+So they presumably can make T antigen
+
+45:52.540 --> 45:53.540
+And why is that important?
+
+45:54.540 --> 45:59.540
+Well, T antigen is what actually initiates the DNA replication on the SV40 promoter that's in the vaccine
+
+46:00.540 --> 46:02.540
+So if a certain part of the population makes T antigen
+
+46:03.540 --> 46:04.540
+And you inject them with a lot of these promoters
+
+46:05.540 --> 46:07.540
+They're going to have the machinery to turn that promoter on
+
+46:08.540 --> 46:09.540
+Wherever it lands
+
+46:10.540 --> 46:11.540
+So there's
+
+46:12.540 --> 46:13.540
+I want other words
+
+46:14.540 --> 46:20.540
+Right, in other words, if you've been vaccinated with the oral polio or the live virus polio vaccine
+
+46:21.540 --> 46:25.540
+Then you could have the T antigen already in you
+
+46:27.540 --> 46:29.540
+Right, and that's something that I can't really
+
+46:30.540 --> 46:34.540
+I think right now we have data here that shows there's a legal problem here
+
+46:35.540 --> 46:37.540
+More so than we have evidence of a clinical problem
+
+46:38.540 --> 46:39.540
+The clinical problem we still need more data from
+
+46:40.540 --> 46:42.540
+We need to find out if this DNA is actually in other people
+
+46:43.540 --> 46:45.540
+Post vaccination and people who haven't been vaccinated to see
+
+46:46.540 --> 46:48.540
+Is it associated with a lot of this adverse events?
+
+46:49.540 --> 46:50.540
+Right now this is just hypothesis generation
+
+46:51.540 --> 46:53.540
+We don't we have that. We have a lot of reasons to believe this is a bad idea
+
+46:54.540 --> 46:55.540
+They don't need this DNA in there
+
+46:56.540 --> 46:57.540
+They didn't tell the regulators about it
+
+46:58.540 --> 46:59.540
+And it's inside of an LNP
+
+47:00.540 --> 47:02.540
+And it's going to get to the nuclear space and the sequence that's in there
+
+47:03.540 --> 47:04.540
+All right, so all of that is a train wreck
+
+47:05.540 --> 47:07.540
+If you're putting in 200 billion of these molecules per shot
+
+47:08.540 --> 47:09.540
+And you're doing them five times a year
+
+47:10.540 --> 47:11.540
+I don't know how many times people are taking them
+
+47:12.540 --> 47:13.540
+But if you think of your to schedule
+
+47:14.540 --> 47:15.540
+You should be past your fifth by now, right?
+
+47:16.540 --> 47:18.540
+So there's a cumulative dosing problem here
+
+47:19.540 --> 47:21.540
+There's a high number of these fragments in there
+
+47:22.540 --> 47:24.540
+Even though the nanograms might seem low
+
+47:25.540 --> 47:27.540
+The fragmentation of them makes them like buckshot
+
+47:28.540 --> 47:30.540
+And makes them much more potent as integration tools
+
+47:31.540 --> 47:33.540
+Because you have more active ends of DNA
+
+47:34.540 --> 47:36.540
+It's the ends of the DNA that have phosphates and hydroxyls
+
+47:37.540 --> 47:38.540
+That make them sticky
+
+47:39.540 --> 47:41.540
+Those are kind of like the Lego pieces of DNA, if you will
+
+47:42.540 --> 47:44.540
+So you'll see an FDA documentation on guidance documents
+
+47:45.540 --> 47:47.540
+So look at DNA that they base these nanogram limits
+
+47:48.540 --> 47:49.540
+Based on genomic DNA
+
+47:50.540 --> 47:52.540
+Ten nanograms of genomic DNA might be like twelve hundred copies of DNA
+
+47:53.540 --> 47:54.540
+But we're dealing with really small pieces
+
+47:55.540 --> 47:56.540
+Which means we have hundreds of billions of pieces
+
+47:58.540 --> 48:00.540
+And they even allude to the fact that if you were dealing with not
+
+48:01.540 --> 48:02.540
+The million cell contamination
+
+48:03.540 --> 48:04.540
+Which would be three giga-based genomes
+
+48:05.540 --> 48:06.540
+But you're dealing with viruses
+
+48:07.540 --> 48:08.540
+Well then the copy number is so damn high
+
+48:09.540 --> 48:11.540
+That you might need ventigram or adigram limits
+
+48:12.540 --> 48:13.540
+On the amount of DNA that could be around
+
+48:14.540 --> 48:16.540
+There's other guidance documents that also speak to the fact that
+
+48:17.540 --> 48:18.540
+The two hundred base paired limit is
+
+48:19.540 --> 48:21.540
+Maybe not really pertinent if you're dealing with promoters
+
+48:22.540 --> 48:23.540
+Maybe it should be down at seven bases
+
+48:24.540 --> 48:26.540
+Because seven bases could integrate and cause problems
+
+48:27.540 --> 48:30.540
+Even in like in a VDJ circumstance with certain parts of the genome
+
+48:31.540 --> 48:33.540
+So there are guidance documents
+
+48:35.540 --> 48:37.540
+And they put out guidance documents before LNPs were around saying
+
+48:38.540 --> 48:39.540
+We think there's going to be a million cell DNA
+
+48:40.540 --> 48:41.540
+We can tolerate this much of it
+
+48:42.540 --> 48:43.540
+Based on this copy number
+
+48:44.540 --> 48:45.540
+Based on us not knowing much about it
+
+48:45.540 --> 48:47.540
+But the moment you start getting into high copy number contaminants
+
+48:48.540 --> 48:49.540
+That have bioactive elements to them
+
+48:50.540 --> 48:51.540
+In their inside LNPs
+
+48:52.540 --> 48:53.540
+The whole game changes
+
+48:54.540 --> 48:55.540
+And it's really astounding
+
+48:56.540 --> 48:58.540
+You know when you when you look at these numbers
+
+48:59.540 --> 49:01.540
+It's really astounding
+
+49:02.540 --> 49:04.540
+When you look at these genomic insertion events
+
+49:06.540 --> 49:08.540
+And I've done genetic engineering before
+
+49:09.540 --> 49:13.540
+Primarily in genetically modified plants and bacteria
+
+49:15.540 --> 49:17.540
+It's like you're going to Vegas
+
+49:18.540 --> 49:19.540
+You're looking for the one in the million event
+
+49:20.540 --> 49:22.540
+But there are enough
+
+49:23.540 --> 49:25.540
+Aaron strands of DNA around there
+
+49:26.540 --> 49:28.540
+For that to actually happen, is that correct?
+
+49:29.540 --> 49:31.540
+Yeah, I mean Philip Buckholt put up an interesting paper
+
+49:32.540 --> 49:33.540
+And his Twitter recently about the rate
+
+49:34.540 --> 49:35.540
+When you do the million transfection like this
+
+49:36.540 --> 49:37.540
+The rate of integrative cells that's stabilized
+
+49:39.540 --> 49:40.540
+It was down below seven percent
+
+49:41.540 --> 49:42.540
+But seven percent is a huge number
+
+49:43.540 --> 49:44.540
+When you're dealing with billions of LNPs
+
+49:46.540 --> 49:47.540
+Right, right, so this is
+
+49:48.540 --> 49:50.540
+LNP is lipid nanoparticle, is that right Kevin?
+
+49:51.540 --> 49:52.540
+That's right, yeah, so these are
+
+49:53.540 --> 49:54.540
+packaged in these LNPs, we know that
+
+49:55.540 --> 49:56.540
+That was part of our most recent paper
+
+49:57.540 --> 49:59.540
+If you use a nucleation on the vaccine
+
+50:00.540 --> 50:01.540
+It won't get rid of the DNA that's there
+
+50:02.540 --> 50:03.540
+Because it's protected, it's inside this
+
+50:04.540 --> 50:05.540
+lipid nanoparticle
+
+50:06.540 --> 50:08.540
+So the guidance documents the FDA have for DNA contamination
+
+50:09.540 --> 50:11.540
+They are just ancient relics
+
+50:12.540 --> 50:14.540
+They're outdated, they actually started before the NCBIA
+
+50:15.540 --> 50:17.540
+Which is this National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act
+
+50:18.540 --> 50:19.540
+They were at ten p-grams back then
+
+50:20.540 --> 50:22.540
+After that act, they went up a thousand fold
+
+50:23.540 --> 50:24.540
+Over the course of ten years
+
+50:25.540 --> 50:27.540
+So, we're now at this stage
+
+50:28.540 --> 50:29.540
+We've tolerated a thousand times higher
+
+50:30.540 --> 50:31.540
+Now we're switching to LNPs
+
+50:32.540 --> 50:33.540
+That bring these things directly into cells
+
+50:34.540 --> 50:35.540
+With nuclear targeting sequences
+
+50:36.540 --> 50:37.540
+We were told that this would not target the nucleus
+
+50:38.540 --> 50:40.540
+We were told that this would not enter into the nucleus
+
+50:41.540 --> 50:42.540
+Is the nuclear targeting sequence
+
+50:43.540 --> 50:44.540
+Is that the SV40 enhancer?
+
+50:46.540 --> 50:47.540
+That is, it's actually
+
+50:48.540 --> 50:50.540
+It's been published as a great gene therapy tool
+
+50:51.540 --> 50:53.540
+Because it's so effective at bringing things to the nucleus in hours
+
+50:54.540 --> 50:55.540
+David Dean has great work on this
+
+50:56.540 --> 50:57.540
+Canada has just admitted that they found it
+
+50:58.540 --> 50:59.540
+It's in the vaccine
+
+51:00.540 --> 51:01.540
+So, all these arguments about our vials
+
+51:02.540 --> 51:03.540
+Are from dumpsters and everything
+
+51:04.540 --> 51:06.540
+Pfizer gave sequence to Health Canada
+
+51:07.540 --> 51:08.540
+That has it in there
+
+51:09.540 --> 51:10.540
+So, there's no more argument of it being in there
+
+51:11.540 --> 51:12.540
+So, let's move to the legal issue
+
+51:13.540 --> 51:14.540
+That you flagged for us Kevin
+
+51:15.540 --> 51:16.540
+So, Health Canada has acknowledged
+
+51:17.540 --> 51:19.540
+That this DNA contamination is in the vials
+
+51:20.540 --> 51:21.540
+So, we now have a major government
+
+51:22.540 --> 51:23.540
+Of the world acknowledging this
+
+51:24.540 --> 51:25.540
+And we published Children's Health
+
+51:26.540 --> 51:27.540
+Defense on Friday last week
+
+51:28.540 --> 51:29.540
+Published a story quoting Health Canada
+
+51:31.540 --> 51:32.540
+Is saying, Health Canada expects sponsors
+
+51:33.540 --> 51:35.540
+To identify any biologically functional DNA
+
+51:36.540 --> 51:37.540
+Sequences within a plasmid
+
+51:38.540 --> 51:39.540
+Such as an SV40 enhancer
+
+51:40.540 --> 51:41.540
+At the time of submission
+
+51:42.540 --> 51:43.540
+But we know that that didn't happen
+
+51:45.540 --> 51:46.540
+In our mind, as a scientist
+
+51:47.540 --> 51:48.540
+Who's long been involved in this area
+
+51:49.540 --> 51:51.540
+Should that be enough to now force
+
+51:52.540 --> 51:53.540
+All of the governments around the world
+
+51:54.540 --> 51:55.540
+To take these vials off the market
+
+51:56.540 --> 51:57.540
+Until they've been investigated
+
+51:59.540 --> 52:00.540
+I would think so if they don't do this
+
+52:01.540 --> 52:02.540
+What are they there for?
+
+52:03.540 --> 52:04.540
+I mean, this is like every time someone breaks a rule
+
+52:05.540 --> 52:06.540
+They just change the rule
+
+52:07.540 --> 52:08.540
+I mean, what do we need regulators for
+
+52:09.540 --> 52:11.540
+If they're not going to stick to these rules
+
+52:12.540 --> 52:13.540
+And guidelines they put forward
+
+52:15.540 --> 52:16.540
+In the same breath of that e-mail
+
+52:17.540 --> 52:18.540
+I think they reiterated the safe and effective
+
+52:19.540 --> 52:20.540
+Psalm, like, okay, we need
+
+52:21.540 --> 52:22.540
+But that's nonsense, as people say
+
+52:23.540 --> 52:24.540
+They say the risk benefit profile
+
+52:25.540 --> 52:26.540
+Continues to support the use
+
+52:27.540 --> 52:29.540
+But if they don't know, if they didn't know this
+
+52:30.540 --> 52:31.540
+And they don't acknowledge this
+
+52:32.540 --> 52:33.540
+Then how could they assess the risk benefit
+
+52:34.540 --> 52:35.540
+Profile? That seems just nonsensical
+
+52:36.540 --> 52:37.540
+It's circular, it's very circular for them
+
+52:38.540 --> 52:39.540
+To state that, you don't actually
+
+52:40.540 --> 52:41.540
+I mean an important point to that risk
+
+52:42.540 --> 52:43.540
+They waive the genotoxicity studies of the trial
+
+52:44.540 --> 52:46.540
+Right, right, right, they don't know that
+
+52:47.540 --> 52:49.540
+There's risk because the trials were never done
+
+52:50.540 --> 52:53.540
+And how can you get away with it?
+
+52:54.540 --> 52:55.540
+It seems like when you look at the
+
+52:56.540 --> 52:57.540
+Plasmid submission to the FDA
+
+52:58.540 --> 52:59.540
+There are unknown sequences
+
+53:00.540 --> 53:01.540
+There are big black boxes
+
+53:02.540 --> 53:04.540
+There's a big unknown where the SV40 promoter went
+
+53:05.540 --> 53:07.540
+Why did they tolerate this in the first place?
+
+53:08.540 --> 53:12.540
+You know, I don't know because there's other things in that sequence
+
+53:13.540 --> 53:15.540
+There's other points in that sequence that should have
+
+53:16.540 --> 53:17.540
+Wrong alarm bells
+
+53:18.540 --> 53:20.540
+If you turn on any sort of ore finding tool
+
+53:21.540 --> 53:23.540
+So to paint where the open reading frames are
+
+53:24.540 --> 53:25.540
+You can identify where the spike is
+
+53:26.540 --> 53:28.540
+But the thing that will blow your mind is that there's an
+
+53:29.540 --> 53:30.540
+Orp on the reverse strand of the spike
+
+53:31.540 --> 53:32.540
+That is 252 amino acids long
+
+53:34.540 --> 53:35.540
+Like that should have been a red flag
+
+53:36.540 --> 53:38.540
+So that tells me that no one opened this
+
+53:39.540 --> 53:40.540
+In a tool, they got the sequence
+
+53:41.540 --> 53:43.540
+And probably just said, pay your user fee
+
+53:44.540 --> 53:45.540
+And we'll put it in the file and move on
+
+53:46.540 --> 53:48.540
+What an Orp finder does is it looks for open reading frames
+
+53:49.540 --> 53:50.540
+And so if you turn it on, it will look for
+
+53:51.540 --> 53:52.540
+Star coat-ons and stop coat-ons
+
+53:53.540 --> 53:54.540
+And it instantly finds the spike protein
+
+53:56.540 --> 53:57.540
+If you ask this to look at
+
+53:59.540 --> 54:01.540
+On both strands of the DNA, it will find another Orp
+
+54:02.540 --> 54:03.540
+That runs the entire direction
+
+54:04.540 --> 54:05.540
+On the other strand of the spike protein
+
+54:07.540 --> 54:08.540
+For 1,252 amino acids long
+
+54:09.540 --> 54:11.540
+I don't have it visualized here because I've picked up the wrong screen here
+
+54:12.540 --> 54:14.540
+But I do have it on my sub-stack and people can see this
+
+54:15.540 --> 54:16.540
+Now anyone who's regulating this
+
+54:17.540 --> 54:19.540
+Would have, should have, put this into a
+
+54:20.540 --> 54:21.540
+Tool-like snap gene to say
+
+54:22.540 --> 54:23.540
+Show me what's in this plasma
+
+54:24.540 --> 54:25.540
+And it annotates all these pieces for you
+
+54:26.540 --> 54:27.540
+And it would have shown you that there is a mysterious
+
+54:28.540 --> 54:30.540
+Orp of unknown origin that encodes the entire opposite strand
+
+54:31.540 --> 54:32.540
+Of the spike protein
+
+54:34.540 --> 54:36.540
+Moderna doesn't have it, the virus doesn't have it
+
+54:37.540 --> 54:39.540
+It says Kevin, it's unknown, they don't know what it is
+
+54:40.540 --> 54:42.540
+I've blasted this thing against NCBI
+
+54:43.540 --> 54:47.540
+The only hits I can find in uniprot are to a gene that's
+
+54:48.540 --> 54:50.540
+Or protein that's in silk and in collagen
+
+54:51.540 --> 54:53.540
+And some other fibroin thing
+
+54:55.540 --> 54:56.540
+I don't know
+
+54:59.540 --> 55:01.540
+I guess I'm a little confused what he's saying
+
+55:02.540 --> 55:03.540
+He's saying that the
+
+55:04.540 --> 55:06.540
+On the complementary strand
+
+55:07.540 --> 55:08.540
+To the spike protein
+
+55:10.540 --> 55:12.540
+There is another open reading frame
+
+55:14.540 --> 55:16.540
+And the AI tool
+
+55:17.540 --> 55:19.540
+Recognizes that an open reading frame
+
+55:20.540 --> 55:22.540
+Because it finds the start codons
+
+55:24.540 --> 55:25.540
+My guess is
+
+55:26.540 --> 55:27.540
+Is that he is like
+
+55:28.540 --> 55:30.540
+Letting this software tool
+
+55:31.540 --> 55:33.540
+Tell him that there's a
+
+55:34.540 --> 55:36.540
+Origin of replication there
+
+55:37.540 --> 55:39.540
+And it's an open reading frame
+
+55:40.540 --> 55:42.540
+And then he's just saying, so I look and I try to find it
+
+55:43.540 --> 55:44.540
+But I can't find it anywhere
+
+55:45.540 --> 55:46.540
+Maybe because it isn't anything
+
+55:48.540 --> 55:50.540
+And it just has a start codon or something in the front
+
+55:51.540 --> 55:53.540
+That makes that automatic search system
+
+55:54.540 --> 55:56.540
+Identify it as an open reading frame
+
+55:58.540 --> 56:00.540
+I'm skeptical of that call right there
+
+56:04.540 --> 56:06.540
+I'm skeptical of that that doesn't really
+
+56:07.540 --> 56:09.540
+Sit right with me for some reason
+
+56:10.540 --> 56:12.540
+Just because this AI program or this
+
+56:13.540 --> 56:15.540
+This software tool
+
+56:16.540 --> 56:19.540
+Locates what it says is an open reading frame within
+
+56:20.540 --> 56:23.540
+With an origin of replication doesn't necessarily mean
+
+56:24.540 --> 56:26.540
+That that's going to be functional
+
+56:28.540 --> 56:30.540
+And in any other context
+
+56:31.540 --> 56:33.540
+I mean it's
+
+56:34.540 --> 56:36.540
+There's so much I've taken notes and I just want to keep it going
+
+56:37.540 --> 56:39.540
+And then I'll go back all the way to the beginning
+
+56:40.540 --> 56:41.540
+What this does
+
+56:42.540 --> 56:44.540
+But I know that this is an artifact of our codon optimization
+
+56:45.540 --> 56:46.540
+That should not be there and is a massive risk
+
+56:47.540 --> 56:48.540
+And they should get rid of it
+
+56:49.540 --> 56:51.540
+Because it's actually it's a massive
+
+56:52.540 --> 56:54.540
+Sedoco puzzle for someone to actually figure this out
+
+56:55.540 --> 56:57.540
+Like how do you get a 1,273 amino acid
+
+56:58.540 --> 56:59.540
+Open reading frame in strand
+
+57:00.540 --> 57:02.540
+And how do you get one on the other
+
+57:03.540 --> 57:05.540
+That doesn't have a stop codon anywhere
+
+57:06.540 --> 57:07.540
+That's scary
+
+57:08.540 --> 57:09.540
+What are the implications of having that
+
+57:10.540 --> 57:11.540
+And so the definition then it seems
+
+57:12.540 --> 57:14.540
+Of an open reading frame is just a very long sequence
+
+57:15.540 --> 57:16.540
+Without a stop codon
+
+57:17.540 --> 57:19.540
+Okay, maybe that's extraordinary
+
+57:20.540 --> 57:23.540
+Or maybe he's just making us ask the wrong question
+
+57:24.540 --> 57:25.540
+Like where did this come from?
+
+57:26.540 --> 57:29.540
+Or if you know that or if going into the opposite direction
+
+57:30.540 --> 57:34.540
+You know and then and then injecting that into humans
+
+57:36.540 --> 57:37.540
+I don't know if it's going to get expressed
+
+57:38.540 --> 57:39.540
+That's the thing
+
+57:39.540 --> 57:40.540
+Sure, yeah
+
+57:41.540 --> 57:43.540
+A waste pair of answer is a bidirectional promoter
+
+57:44.540 --> 57:46.540
+So presumably it makes our need both directions
+
+57:47.540 --> 57:49.540
+If for some reason it spans this poly A region
+
+57:50.540 --> 57:52.540
+In the plasmid it could go and start making RNA
+
+57:53.540 --> 57:55.540
+Over that unknown, that mysterious orb
+
+57:56.540 --> 57:57.540
+Good, good
+
+57:58.540 --> 57:59.540
+I don't know what that's going to do in the cell
+
+58:00.540 --> 58:01.540
+It could, there's a COSAC consensus sequence there
+
+58:02.540 --> 58:03.540
+It's very difficult to informatically screen
+
+58:04.540 --> 58:05.540
+For internal ribosomal entry sites
+
+58:06.540 --> 58:07.540
+So I can't tell you that ribosomes
+
+58:08.540 --> 58:09.540
+Definitely get to translate this thing
+
+58:10.540 --> 58:11.540
+But I can certainly tell you that if I were a regulator
+
+58:12.540 --> 58:13.540
+I would tell them to get rid of it
+
+58:14.540 --> 58:15.540
+Because it's risk with no gain
+
+58:17.540 --> 58:18.540
+Sorry
+
+58:19.540 --> 58:20.540
+There's no way they did
+
+58:21.540 --> 58:23.540
+If they looked at this, this would have run out to them
+
+58:24.540 --> 58:25.540
+It's clear to me, they didn't look
+
+58:26.540 --> 58:28.540
+I think they collected their user fee and put the thing in the file
+
+58:29.540 --> 58:31.540
+So the regulators were asleep on the job
+
+58:32.540 --> 58:33.540
+It sounds like what you're saying
+
+58:34.540 --> 58:35.540
+Because they didn't catch SV40
+
+58:36.540 --> 58:37.540
+That they could have easily caught through snap chain
+
+58:38.540 --> 58:40.540
+And they also didn't tell us about this open reading frame
+
+58:41.540 --> 58:45.540
+1220, 237 pair bases, base pairs
+
+58:46.540 --> 58:47.540
+Is that right?
+
+58:48.540 --> 58:50.540
+The open reading frame is 1273 for the spike
+
+58:51.540 --> 58:53.540
+And on the reverse side, there's like a 1252 amino acid
+
+58:55.540 --> 58:56.540
+Open reading frame
+
+58:57.540 --> 58:58.540
+And I could see someone writing an off
+
+58:59.540 --> 59:00.540
+Being like, oh, it's messenger RNA, it's going to be single stranded
+
+59:01.540 --> 59:02.540
+The reverse strand won't be there, what it's an RNA form
+
+59:03.540 --> 59:05.540
+But they didn't anticipate the DNA is going to come with it
+
+59:06.540 --> 59:07.540
+And so now we have both strands there
+
+59:08.540 --> 59:10.540
+And the other strand codes for something
+
+59:11.540 --> 59:13.540
+So if any of this stuff integrates, it's likely to be an open reading frame
+
+59:14.540 --> 59:16.540
+Of a foreign peptide that your immune system's not going to like
+
+59:18.540 --> 59:22.540
+The point is, it's a very open reading frame rich plasmid
+
+59:24.540 --> 59:28.540
+We've got millions and millions of lipid nanoparticles
+
+59:29.540 --> 59:32.540
+That are floating around physiologically
+
+59:33.540 --> 59:36.540
+And basically, and the lipid nanoparticles contain
+
+59:38.540 --> 59:40.540
+What appears to be transfection soup
+
+59:41.540 --> 59:42.540
+How do people not get transfected by this?
+
+59:44.540 --> 59:46.540
+I think the numbers are probably in the billions of trillions
+
+59:47.540 --> 59:48.540
+From what I've read on the L and P's
+
+59:49.540 --> 59:50.540
+A large number, but
+
+59:52.540 --> 59:54.540
+And yeah, they probably have the RNA and the DNA in them
+
+59:55.540 --> 59:57.540
+From the measurements we've made, they're packaged
+
+59:58.540 --> 01:00:00.540
+And they're the clearest resistant and they're ending up in cells
+
+01:00:01.540 --> 01:00:03.540
+What a lot of people push back is like, okay, any cell that gets transfected
+
+01:00:04.540 --> 01:00:06.540
+Is going to die, so who cares if this cargo's in there
+
+01:00:08.540 --> 01:00:11.540
+It's true because we see the spike protein and the spike sequence
+
+01:00:13.540 --> 01:00:15.540
+Persisting in least 28 days, people have sequenced
+
+01:00:16.540 --> 01:00:18.540
+mRNA or DNA, we don't know which one it was
+
+01:00:19.540 --> 01:00:21.540
+But they've got sequence of the vaccine 28 days later in plasmid
+
+01:00:22.540 --> 01:00:24.540
+They have found it in breast milk five or seven days later
+
+01:00:25.540 --> 01:00:27.540
+The protein itself, they have found Patterson
+
+01:00:28.540 --> 01:00:30.540
+Founded four months later on exosomes, I think
+
+01:00:31.540 --> 01:00:34.540
+Sorry, that was Bansal, Patterson found it like I think 200 days later in macrophages
+
+01:00:35.540 --> 01:00:40.540
+So cool thing is persisting, and I don't think every cell that gets transformed
+
+01:00:41.540 --> 01:00:45.540
+Is 100% killed instantly, there's something going on where people can't clear this
+
+01:00:46.540 --> 01:00:48.540
+And maybe it's hitting immune-privileged cells
+
+01:00:49.540 --> 01:00:51.540
+And that's why it sits around forever
+
+01:00:52.540 --> 01:00:54.540
+So I think it is a risk, if there's DNA floating around
+
+01:00:55.540 --> 01:00:56.540
+It's going to add to the persistence of this
+
+01:00:57.540 --> 01:01:01.540
+Because it could integrate and continually express these other foreign peptides
+
+01:01:02.540 --> 01:01:06.540
+Exactly, and what about, you know, what about the implications?
+
+01:01:07.540 --> 01:01:10.540
+When I think of DNA disrepair, I think of cancer
+
+01:01:11.540 --> 01:01:14.540
+And so, you know, I get very, very concerned about that
+
+01:01:15.540 --> 01:01:19.540
+Just not, you know, not specifically on
+
+01:01:20.540 --> 01:01:22.540
+Oh, we're making people into, you know,
+
+01:01:23.540 --> 01:01:26.540
+Genomically stable spike protein production factories
+
+01:01:27.540 --> 01:01:32.540
+But also just the other bits and pieces of DNA that are getting integrated into the genome
+
+01:01:33.540 --> 01:01:34.540
+And, you know, what are they doing?
+
+01:01:35.540 --> 01:01:38.540
+What are they enhancing, and what are they, you know, or what are they silencing?
+
+01:01:40.540 --> 01:01:46.540
+Well, what made me nervous is when we saw, so Phillips' work, I think, showed a couple billion of the
+
+01:01:47.540 --> 01:01:51.540
+Of the amplicons from just PCR, so PCR measures 100 base per amplicon
+
+01:01:52.540 --> 01:01:54.540
+And we have one that actually targets CSV 40 promoter
+
+01:01:55.540 --> 01:01:58.540
+So there's a billion copies of just that region in every injection
+
+01:01:59.540 --> 01:02:02.540
+That's kind of, that's carbon bombing a genome with a billion promoters
+
+01:02:03.540 --> 01:02:05.540
+Where are those lands, and what efficiency is an open debate
+
+01:02:06.540 --> 01:02:10.540
+But wherever they land, they're going to be active promoters of a million cells
+
+01:02:11.540 --> 01:02:13.540
+So I think that alone is an issue
+
+01:02:14.540 --> 01:02:17.540
+Because you're just dropping these things that make RNA into the genome randomly
+
+01:02:18.540 --> 01:02:22.540
+And if you happen to put one on a protoanco gene, or if, you know, right, right, a host of issues
+
+01:02:23.540 --> 01:02:28.540
+Now, there's other areas that genes that if you hyper express them, they can drive to sell excess cell growth
+
+01:02:29.540 --> 01:02:32.540
+They call them protoanco genes, and so it's an act of promoter for that
+
+01:02:33.540 --> 01:02:34.540
+Turns out it's not good
+
+01:02:35.540 --> 01:02:38.540
+The other thing that can happen is you can break a gene that slows down cancer, like P53
+
+01:02:39.540 --> 01:02:41.540
+P53 and Braca are these DNA repair enzymes
+
+01:02:42.540 --> 01:02:44.540
+And if you happen to put a different part of the plasma inside of those
+
+01:02:45.540 --> 01:02:47.540
+It could, it could disable those genes
+
+01:02:48.540 --> 01:02:51.540
+Then you don't have, you don't have this repair mechanism that you need
+
+01:02:52.540 --> 01:02:55.540
+Now, most people have two copies of all these genes
+
+01:02:56.540 --> 01:02:58.540
+So many people, you break one of them, maybe you're okay
+
+01:02:59.540 --> 01:03:01.540
+But there are subsets of people that have Braca mutations and P53 mutations
+
+01:03:02.540 --> 01:03:05.540
+And they're haploid, so they have like one bad copy and one good copy
+
+01:03:06.540 --> 01:03:08.540
+You come in with this vaccine, you can knock out the only other good copy
+
+01:03:09.540 --> 01:03:14.540
+And so this is a whole host of sort of rare genetics that you have
+
+01:03:15.540 --> 01:03:18.540
+I'm not sure how it inserts specifically to knock out a single enzyme
+
+01:03:19.540 --> 01:03:21.540
+So precisely among the entire human genome
+
+01:03:22.540 --> 01:03:26.540
+Wherever this small fragment of DNA is going to integrate
+
+01:03:27.540 --> 01:03:30.540
+If it's going to disrupt the Braca gene or disrupt the P53 gene
+
+01:03:31.540 --> 01:03:35.540
+It's going to have to insert exactly there and whatever chromosome it's in
+
+01:03:36.540 --> 01:03:39.540
+And then unless you have injected a pregnant woman
+
+01:03:40.540 --> 01:03:44.540
+And it's inserting into a developing fetus, which would be devastating
+
+01:03:45.540 --> 01:03:50.540
+Is it integrating into the genome of a liver cell that's going to die next week?
+
+01:03:51.540 --> 01:03:58.540
+Is it integrating into the cells of your kidney wall or you know what what
+
+01:03:59.540 --> 01:04:02.540
+And what happens if it does
+
+01:04:03.540 --> 01:04:10.540
+Again, I am trying to be devil's advocate here and try to emphasize
+
+01:04:11.540 --> 01:04:17.540
+That all these hypothetical scenarios where this DNA could in theory integrate
+
+01:04:18.540 --> 01:04:22.540
+And disrupt a gene, cause cancer, do whatever
+
+01:04:23.540 --> 01:04:26.540
+Are very low probability events
+
+01:04:27.540 --> 01:04:36.540
+Whereas the destruction of tissues which are expressing foreign proteins driven by this chemically modified RNA
+
+01:04:37.540 --> 01:04:39.540
+Not messenger RNA, but modified RNA
+
+01:04:42.540 --> 01:04:44.540
+Those consequences are going to be devastating
+
+01:04:45.540 --> 01:04:50.540
+Those consequences can include clotting and autoimmunity and the list is long
+
+01:04:51.540 --> 01:04:54.540
+And so if we're going to focus on what this DNA could do
+
+01:04:55.540 --> 01:05:02.540
+If it integrates and knocks out a cancer gene or the promoter integrates right next to an oncogene
+
+01:05:03.540 --> 01:05:08.540
+We're talking about what happens if I put all of my chips on 30 black
+
+01:05:09.540 --> 01:05:13.540
+And the ball hits 30 black, well then you're a millionaire
+
+01:05:14.540 --> 01:05:18.540
+And if some of this DNA goes into your grandma's
+
+01:05:19.540 --> 01:05:25.540
+You know already developing cancer and and juices it a little bit boy she could be dead
+
+01:05:28.540 --> 01:05:33.540
+But that kind of glosses over the fact that well if you transfect your grandma
+
+01:05:34.540 --> 01:05:36.540
+There's a million reasons why she might die
+
+01:05:37.540 --> 01:05:40.540
+And it has nothing to do with what the DNA integrates
+
+01:05:41.540 --> 01:05:48.540
+And it feels very much after he just you know casually went past the idea that the RNA is found everywhere
+
+01:05:49.540 --> 01:05:52.540
+And the spike protein is found everywhere and it doesn't go away like we thought it was
+
+01:05:53.540 --> 01:05:54.540
+And that's a train wreck
+
+01:05:56.540 --> 01:05:58.540
+We're focusing off a lot on this DNA then aren't we
+
+01:06:01.540 --> 01:06:05.540
+To consider this and perhaps why this may not be something you'd be seeing in all patients
+
+01:06:06.540 --> 01:06:12.540
+And there's another dimension of like which vaccine lots have more of this versus less of this like the Schmeling paper you look at has
+
+01:06:13.540 --> 01:06:17.540
+4% of the vaccine lots having a majority of the adverse events
+
+01:06:18.540 --> 01:06:22.540
+So we have a lot of VED diagrams here of things to consider
+
+01:06:23.540 --> 01:06:25.540
+There's a lot of people who probably took these and don't have any harm at all
+
+01:06:26.540 --> 01:06:33.540
+There's maybe a subset of people that take these bad lots that in fact have some genetic reason why they're more susceptible to the harm than others
+
+01:06:34.540 --> 01:06:36.540
+So you see there's a lot a little slippery language there
+
+01:06:37.540 --> 01:06:40.540
+There's probably a lot of people who took these vaccines and didn't have any harm at all
+
+01:06:42.540 --> 01:06:48.540
+There's probably a lot of people that took these vaccines and there's no harm at all
+
+01:06:50.540 --> 01:06:54.540
+There's probably a lot of people who took these vaccines and didn't have any harm at all
+
+01:06:57.540 --> 01:07:00.540
+There's probably a lot of people who took these vaccines and didn't have any harm at all
+
+01:07:03.540 --> 01:07:07.540
+And you mentioned, I think, to all of us.
+
+01:07:07.540 --> 01:07:11.860
+And so this is a whole host of sort of rare genetics
+
+01:07:11.860 --> 01:07:13.060
+that you have to consider in this.
+
+01:07:13.060 --> 01:07:15.140
+And perhaps why this may not be something you'd
+
+01:07:15.140 --> 01:07:17.660
+be seeing in all patients.
+
+01:07:17.660 --> 01:07:20.060
+There's another dimension of which vaccine
+
+01:07:20.060 --> 01:07:21.900
+lots have more of this versus less of this,
+
+01:07:21.900 --> 01:07:23.300
+like the Schmeling paper you look at
+
+01:07:23.300 --> 01:07:27.060
+has 4% of the vaccine lots having the majority
+
+01:07:27.060 --> 01:07:28.700
+of the adverse events.
+
+01:07:28.700 --> 01:07:32.540
+So we have a lot of VED diagrams here of things
+
+01:07:32.540 --> 01:07:33.900
+to consider.
+
+01:07:33.900 --> 01:07:35.380
+There's a lot of people who probably took these
+
+01:07:35.380 --> 01:07:36.740
+and don't have any harm at all.
+
+01:07:36.740 --> 01:07:38.940
+Maybe a subset of the people that take these bad lots
+
+01:07:38.940 --> 01:07:42.460
+that, in fact, have some genetic reason why they're more
+
+01:07:42.460 --> 01:07:43.940
+susceptible to the harm than others.
+
+01:07:43.940 --> 01:07:48.140
+Oh, so then even some people are lucky and not genetically
+
+01:07:48.140 --> 01:07:50.620
+susceptible to the DNA contamination,
+
+01:07:50.620 --> 01:07:52.940
+and they didn't have any problems.
+
+01:07:52.940 --> 01:07:54.820
+But then these other losers over there
+
+01:07:54.820 --> 01:07:57.500
+who just happened to have the wrong genes,
+
+01:07:57.500 --> 01:08:00.220
+they're extra susceptible, right?
+
+01:08:00.260 --> 01:08:03.180
+Stop lying.
+
+01:08:03.180 --> 01:08:04.180
+Others.
+
+01:08:04.180 --> 01:08:06.260
+Kevin, you mentioned, I think, harm at all.
+
+01:08:06.260 --> 01:08:08.380
+The majority of the adverse events.
+
+01:08:08.380 --> 01:08:13.420
+So we have a lot of VED diagrams here of things to consider.
+
+01:08:13.420 --> 01:08:15.060
+There's a lot of people who probably took these
+
+01:08:15.060 --> 01:08:16.300
+and don't have any harm at all.
+
+01:08:16.300 --> 01:08:18.620
+There's maybe a subset of people that take these bad lots
+
+01:08:18.620 --> 01:08:21.700
+that, in fact, have some genetic reason
+
+01:08:21.700 --> 01:08:24.340
+why they're more susceptible to the harm than others.
+
+01:08:24.340 --> 01:08:27.500
+Kevin, you mentioned, I think, today and in the past
+
+01:08:27.500 --> 01:08:30.700
+that this promoter, the SV40 promoter in particular,
+
+01:08:30.700 --> 01:08:32.740
+is used in gene therapy.
+
+01:08:32.740 --> 01:08:35.940
+And yet this was not reviewed as a gene therapy.
+
+01:08:35.940 --> 01:08:37.460
+It was reviewed as a vaccine.
+
+01:08:37.460 --> 01:08:40.540
+Is that an issue in your group?
+
+01:08:40.540 --> 01:08:43.780
+Yeah, I think that is actually a very serious legal issue.
+
+01:08:43.780 --> 01:08:46.500
+This here is the SV40 enhancer that
+
+01:08:46.500 --> 01:08:49.300
+is published to bind all of these transcription factors
+
+01:08:49.300 --> 01:08:52.300
+and drag this sequence into the nucleus.
+
+01:08:52.300 --> 01:08:54.900
+There's two of these copies of these 72 base pair pieces
+
+01:08:54.900 --> 01:08:56.940
+of DNA, and this is what they're putting
+
+01:08:56.940 --> 01:09:00.700
+in plasmids to get them to do perform gene therapy.
+
+01:09:00.700 --> 01:09:03.620
+So the sequence that they omitted
+
+01:09:03.620 --> 01:09:06.460
+is a bioactive sequence according to Health Canada,
+
+01:09:06.460 --> 01:09:07.860
+and it is used in gene therapy.
+
+01:09:07.860 --> 01:09:09.380
+There's just no debate anymore.
+
+01:09:09.380 --> 01:09:12.660
+The plasmids that are in there are gene therapy tools,
+
+01:09:12.660 --> 01:09:15.060
+and they're injected into beings and people.
+
+01:09:15.060 --> 01:09:18.980
+So not only was there no informed consent for anybody,
+
+01:09:18.980 --> 01:09:20.980
+and this was emergency news authorization,
+
+01:09:20.980 --> 01:09:24.300
+so they weren't by law.
+
+01:09:24.340 --> 01:09:28.180
+The question becomes, again, am I cracking yours?
+
+01:09:28.180 --> 01:09:30.380
+No, okay, it sounded like I was really loud.
+
+01:09:30.380 --> 01:09:32.180
+I don't think I'm actually that loud.
+
+01:09:36.660 --> 01:09:39.700
+The important thing to understand here is that
+
+01:09:44.180 --> 01:09:45.020
+yeah.
+
+01:09:55.300 --> 01:09:58.300
+I just, I, base pair pieces of DNA,
+
+01:09:58.300 --> 01:10:00.300
+and this is what they're putting in plasmids
+
+01:10:00.300 --> 01:10:03.300
+to get them to do perform gene therapy.
+
+01:10:03.300 --> 01:10:06.300
+So the sequence that they omitted
+
+01:10:06.300 --> 01:10:09.300
+is a bioactive sequence according to Health Canada,
+
+01:10:09.300 --> 01:10:10.300
+and it is used in gene therapy.
+
+01:10:10.300 --> 01:10:12.300
+There's just no debate anymore.
+
+01:10:12.300 --> 01:10:15.300
+The plasmids that are in there are gene therapy tools.
+
+01:10:15.300 --> 01:10:17.300
+And now the way that they assembled the plasmid
+
+01:10:17.300 --> 01:10:19.300
+was to look at all the fragments
+
+01:10:19.300 --> 01:10:23.300
+and then reassemble them into the plasma sequence.
+
+01:10:24.300 --> 01:10:29.300
+They found very few really long sequences of DNA
+
+01:10:29.300 --> 01:10:31.300
+because the DNA was digested.
+
+01:10:34.300 --> 01:10:36.300
+And so the argument on the other side
+
+01:10:36.300 --> 01:10:39.300
+is clearly going to be these fragments are tiny.
+
+01:10:39.300 --> 01:10:41.300
+Kevin makes the argument that tiny fragments
+
+01:10:41.300 --> 01:10:45.300
+have lots of active sticky ends,
+
+01:10:45.300 --> 01:10:48.300
+and so they're more likely to integrate.
+
+01:10:48.300 --> 01:10:51.300
+The regulators and other molecular biologists
+
+01:10:51.300 --> 01:10:53.300
+will say that the shorter the pieces are,
+
+01:10:53.300 --> 01:10:55.300
+the more likely that they won't integrate,
+
+01:10:55.300 --> 01:10:56.300
+that they won't be dangerous,
+
+01:10:56.300 --> 01:10:58.300
+that they will be cleaned up as noise.
+
+01:11:02.300 --> 01:11:04.300
+And so that's how they're going to argue
+
+01:11:04.300 --> 01:11:06.300
+that this is not really valid.
+
+01:11:06.300 --> 01:11:08.300
+If you use fluorimetry,
+
+01:11:08.300 --> 01:11:10.300
+you're finding these little tiny fragments
+
+01:11:10.300 --> 01:11:12.300
+that are a few base pairs long.
+
+01:11:12.300 --> 01:11:14.300
+I'm getting a GFP signal and claiming
+
+01:11:14.300 --> 01:11:15.300
+that's double-stranded DNA,
+
+01:11:15.300 --> 01:11:18.300
+but that's really not double-stranded DNA.
+
+01:11:18.300 --> 01:11:20.300
+That's not going to make RNA.
+
+01:11:20.300 --> 01:11:23.300
+It's not going to make protein.
+
+01:11:23.300 --> 01:11:28.300
+And if it integrates, it will be integrating where?
+
+01:11:28.300 --> 01:11:31.300
+Into the genome of a cell that's no longer using the genome,
+
+01:11:31.300 --> 01:11:34.300
+like an endothelial cell,
+
+01:11:34.300 --> 01:11:36.300
+or a liver cell,
+
+01:11:36.300 --> 01:11:39.300
+or an already differentiated cell in the body
+
+01:11:39.300 --> 01:11:42.300
+that really only uses a very sub-small subset
+
+01:11:42.300 --> 01:11:45.300
+of the total genome and its nucleus.
+
+01:11:45.300 --> 01:11:48.300
+And so if this small piece of DNA was
+
+01:11:48.300 --> 01:11:50.300
+to magically integrate the chances
+
+01:11:50.300 --> 01:11:51.300
+of it integrating somewhere
+
+01:11:51.300 --> 01:11:54.300
+that will have any impact on that cell,
+
+01:11:54.300 --> 01:11:57.300
+it seems to be quite vanishing.
+
+01:11:57.300 --> 01:11:59.300
+Certainly not just going to happen
+
+01:11:59.300 --> 01:12:02.300
+to stumble on Braco or stumble on P53
+
+01:12:02.300 --> 01:12:04.300
+because it's like a magnet for it.
+
+01:12:07.300 --> 01:12:10.300
+And so we seem to be creating these, you know,
+
+01:12:10.300 --> 01:12:13.300
+worst-case scenario is that it,
+
+01:12:13.300 --> 01:12:15.300
+your son drinks some whiskey,
+
+01:12:15.300 --> 01:12:16.300
+gets in the car,
+
+01:12:16.300 --> 01:12:18.300
+backs across the street,
+
+01:12:18.300 --> 01:12:21.300
+crashes into the house across the street.
+
+01:12:21.300 --> 01:12:24.300
+That's the worst-case scenario if you leave your son at home.
+
+01:12:24.300 --> 01:12:26.300
+The best-case scenario is you watch some Netflix
+
+01:12:26.300 --> 01:12:28.300
+and goes to bed on time.
+
+01:12:30.300 --> 01:12:33.300
+The best-case scenario or other scenarios
+
+01:12:33.300 --> 01:12:36.300
+that eats ice cream and you told him not to.
+
+01:12:36.300 --> 01:12:38.300
+But the worst-case scenario is, yeah,
+
+01:12:38.300 --> 01:12:40.300
+he drinks half a fifth of whiskey,
+
+01:12:40.300 --> 01:12:41.300
+drives the car across the street,
+
+01:12:41.300 --> 01:12:43.300
+crashes into the neighbor's house.
+
+01:12:44.300 --> 01:12:46.300
+But it's not very likely.
+
+01:12:47.300 --> 01:12:50.300
+In fact, I would argue it's vanishingly small,
+
+01:12:50.300 --> 01:12:52.300
+the probability that that's going to happen,
+
+01:12:52.300 --> 01:12:54.300
+even if I left a bottle of whiskey on the table
+
+01:12:54.300 --> 01:12:57.300
+next to the car keys, my son wouldn't do it.
+
+01:12:58.300 --> 01:13:00.300
+So it's a pretty bold statement to say
+
+01:13:00.300 --> 01:13:03.300
+that all this double-stranded little pieces of DNA
+
+01:13:03.300 --> 01:13:07.300
+and so it's highly likely because they were in lipid nanoparticles
+
+01:13:07.300 --> 01:13:09.300
+that they'll get into that nucleus
+
+01:13:09.300 --> 01:13:12.300
+and they'll interact with the two cancer-controlling enzymes
+
+01:13:12.300 --> 01:13:14.300
+called P53 in Braca.
+
+01:13:17.300 --> 01:13:21.300
+Why wouldn't they interact with one of the 100,000 other enzymes
+
+01:13:21.300 --> 01:13:23.300
+that are present in our cells instead,
+
+01:13:23.300 --> 01:13:26.300
+or one of the other 100,000 places
+
+01:13:26.300 --> 01:13:29.300
+that it could integrate and do nothing,
+
+01:13:29.300 --> 01:13:32.300
+or have no real effect,
+
+01:13:34.300 --> 01:13:36.300
+whereas transfection,
+
+01:13:36.300 --> 01:13:38.300
+expression of a foreign protein,
+
+01:13:38.300 --> 01:13:40.300
+activation of the immune system
+
+01:13:40.300 --> 01:13:42.300
+by the expression of a foreign protein,
+
+01:13:42.300 --> 01:13:46.300
+and the challenge of the immune system to clear that
+
+01:13:46.300 --> 01:13:50.300
+is obviously a non-physiological problem
+
+01:13:50.300 --> 01:13:53.300
+that you would not want to challenge a healthy human with,
+
+01:13:53.300 --> 01:13:56.300
+but let's focus on this DNA problem.
+
+01:13:58.300 --> 01:14:00.300
+That's where we are, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+01:14:00.300 --> 01:14:02.300
+That's where we are.
+
+01:14:02.300 --> 01:14:07.300
+That is the bamboozlement that's being brought upon us right now.
+
+01:14:09.300 --> 01:14:11.300
+Make no mistake about it.
+
+01:14:11.300 --> 01:14:18.300
+So it's a very, very nuanced trap
+
+01:14:18.300 --> 01:14:20.300
+that we are being lured into,
+
+01:14:20.300 --> 01:14:24.300
+and if we're not explicit and very careful
+
+01:14:24.300 --> 01:14:26.300
+about how we look at this,
+
+01:14:27.300 --> 01:14:29.300
+from the outside,
+
+01:14:29.300 --> 01:14:33.300
+from the perspective of people looking at us
+
+01:14:33.300 --> 01:14:35.300
+from the outside,
+
+01:14:36.300 --> 01:14:39.300
+it will be very easy for us to be brushed away,
+
+01:14:39.300 --> 01:14:40.300
+and you'll see in a minute.
+
+01:14:40.300 --> 01:14:41.300
+We'll watch the rest of this,
+
+01:14:41.300 --> 01:14:44.300
+then we're going to watch some debunk the funk,
+
+01:14:44.300 --> 01:14:46.300
+and they're injected into billions of people.
+
+01:14:46.300 --> 01:14:50.300
+So not only was there no informed consent for anybody,
+
+01:14:50.300 --> 01:14:52.300
+and this was emergency use authorization,
+
+01:14:52.300 --> 01:14:55.300
+so they weren't, by law,
+
+01:14:55.300 --> 01:14:58.300
+they weren't able to give truly informed consent,
+
+01:14:58.300 --> 01:15:01.300
+but it looks like this was a gene therapy,
+
+01:15:01.300 --> 01:15:04.300
+and people were not told that this was a gene therapy.
+
+01:15:04.300 --> 01:15:05.300
+Is that right?
+
+01:15:05.300 --> 01:15:09.300
+That's right, and now they may not have meant for it to be this,
+
+01:15:09.300 --> 01:15:12.300
+but they certainly, in my opinion, hit it.
+
+01:15:12.300 --> 01:15:15.300
+The fact that that SV-3 region is the only origin missing
+
+01:15:15.300 --> 01:15:19.300
+on the vector means whoever ran the annotation program there
+
+01:15:19.300 --> 01:15:21.300
+probably had three origins show up,
+
+01:15:21.300 --> 01:15:23.300
+the F1, the bacterial, and the SV-40
+
+01:15:23.300 --> 01:15:24.300
+and decided to remove the SV-40
+
+01:15:24.300 --> 01:15:26.300
+because it was an unpopular name,
+
+01:15:26.300 --> 01:15:28.300
+and they knew it was controversial.
+
+01:15:28.300 --> 01:15:30.300
+Incredible.
+
+01:15:30.300 --> 01:15:33.300
+There's a long literature in mainstream scientific
+
+01:15:33.300 --> 01:15:35.300
+journals about SV-40.
+
+01:15:35.300 --> 01:15:36.300
+Isn't that right, Brian?
+
+01:15:36.300 --> 01:15:37.300
+Absolutely.
+
+01:15:37.300 --> 01:15:40.300
+You know, it's such a strong promoter,
+
+01:15:40.300 --> 01:15:42.300
+and it's a mammalian active promoter,
+
+01:15:42.300 --> 01:15:45.300
+and so you would expect if you put that promoter,
+
+01:15:45.300 --> 01:15:48.300
+and especially if you have that 72 base pair
+
+01:15:48.300 --> 01:15:51.300
+enhancer region, that you're basically,
+
+01:15:51.300 --> 01:15:55.300
+you know, you've got a nuclear localization signal,
+
+01:15:55.300 --> 01:15:57.300
+and so that is its job.
+
+01:15:57.300 --> 01:16:01.300
+It basically will take a DNA sequence
+
+01:16:01.300 --> 01:16:05.300
+behind it, and it will deliver it into the nucleus.
+
+01:16:05.300 --> 01:16:09.300
+This is, it's absolutely incredible that this is there.
+
+01:16:09.300 --> 01:16:12.300
+It's absolutely incredible that this whole thing
+
+01:16:12.300 --> 01:16:15.300
+was hidden from view.
+
+01:16:15.300 --> 01:16:19.300
+Wouldn't that raise, you know, again,
+
+01:16:19.300 --> 01:16:22.300
+maybe I'm beating a dead horse,
+
+01:16:22.300 --> 01:16:24.300
+but just the absence of that information,
+
+01:16:24.300 --> 01:16:27.300
+wouldn't that raise some type of red flag
+
+01:16:27.300 --> 01:16:31.300
+with the EMA and the FDA?
+
+01:16:31.300 --> 01:16:35.300
+You would hope so, that they would feel deceived by this.
+
+01:16:35.300 --> 01:16:36.300
+Yeah.
+
+01:16:36.300 --> 01:16:38.300
+That this is something that is clearly in the rules
+
+01:16:38.300 --> 01:16:40.300
+that you need to declare these things,
+
+01:16:40.300 --> 01:16:41.300
+and now they find out, you know,
+
+01:16:41.300 --> 01:16:45.300
+years later that they weren't sure this information.
+
+01:16:45.300 --> 01:16:49.300
+So I don't know where it leads to.
+
+01:16:49.300 --> 01:16:50.300
+Right, right.
+
+01:16:50.300 --> 01:16:53.300
+You've been looking at this for quite a while now, Kevin,
+
+01:16:54.300 --> 01:16:58.300
+and so, you know, if you don't like the message,
+
+01:16:58.300 --> 01:17:00.300
+you shoot the messenger.
+
+01:17:00.300 --> 01:17:03.300
+So what's happening with you?
+
+01:17:03.300 --> 01:17:05.300
+Oh, well, I've already been character assassinated
+
+01:17:05.300 --> 01:17:07.300
+for my choice to get it into the cannabis field,
+
+01:17:07.300 --> 01:17:10.300
+so I'm kind of bulletproof from that standpoint.
+
+01:17:10.300 --> 01:17:13.300
+It's almost as bad as, you know, looking at vaccines.
+
+01:17:13.300 --> 01:17:16.300
+So his skin in the game is that he already threw away
+
+01:17:16.300 --> 01:17:19.300
+his career going into the cannabis industry, you know, so,
+
+01:17:19.300 --> 01:17:22.300
+I mean,
+
+01:17:22.300 --> 01:17:23.300
+he can't lose any.
+
+01:17:23.300 --> 01:17:25.300
+He can't be canceled anymore than that.
+
+01:17:25.300 --> 01:17:26.300
+In general.
+
+01:17:26.300 --> 01:17:27.300
+So yes.
+
+01:17:27.300 --> 01:17:28.300
+Yeah.
+
+01:17:28.300 --> 01:17:29.300
+Exactly.
+
+01:17:29.300 --> 01:17:31.300
+In the past, I want to point out that Kevin generously
+
+01:17:31.300 --> 01:17:34.300
+gave us a declaration in the case that we filed against
+
+01:17:34.300 --> 01:17:37.300
+coercive PCR testing of children in New York City schools,
+
+01:17:37.300 --> 01:17:40.300
+and we're very grateful for that.
+
+01:17:40.300 --> 01:17:41.300
+So, yeah.
+
+01:17:41.300 --> 01:17:44.300
+So, so you're not worried about the character assassination
+
+01:17:44.300 --> 01:17:46.300
+that goes along with this, Kevin?
+
+01:17:46.300 --> 01:17:48.300
+No, they already assassinated my character a decade ago
+
+01:17:48.300 --> 01:17:50.300
+when I decided to start studying cannabis.
+
+01:17:50.300 --> 01:17:52.300
+So they'll continue on that front.
+
+01:17:52.300 --> 01:17:55.300
+And yeah, we get harassed on Twitter and all the usual social media
+
+01:17:55.300 --> 01:17:59.300
+nonsense, but I don't think this is, I don't think it's very
+
+01:17:59.300 --> 01:18:00.300
+effective.
+
+01:18:00.300 --> 01:18:02.300
+And oftentimes, I think as a reverse effect,
+
+01:18:02.300 --> 01:18:04.300
+as people see who they're attacking.
+
+01:18:04.300 --> 01:18:06.300
+And I mean, you can see our preprint on Thursday.
+
+01:18:06.300 --> 01:18:08.300
+It's got like 72,000 downloads now,
+
+01:18:08.300 --> 01:18:12.300
+probably because a Streisand effect of everyone who's hating on us
+
+01:18:12.300 --> 01:18:13.300
+on Twitter.
+
+01:18:13.300 --> 01:18:14.300
+So.
+
+01:18:14.300 --> 01:18:17.300
+What's your sub stack so that we can have everybody follow?
+
+01:18:18.300 --> 01:18:20.300
+It's, it's a named after the count,
+
+01:18:20.300 --> 01:18:22.300
+the active compound and catnip.
+
+01:18:22.300 --> 01:18:23.300
+I'm a cat person.
+
+01:18:23.300 --> 01:18:25.300
+So it's, uh, it's a petalactone.
+
+01:18:25.300 --> 01:18:28.300
+Uh, so it's unfortunately really horrible to tell somebody in her
+
+01:18:28.300 --> 01:18:32.300
+to spell, but lactone is the last word, but a petalactone.
+
+01:18:32.300 --> 01:18:35.300
+If you ever get confused, just look up the active ingredient
+
+01:18:35.300 --> 01:18:38.300
+and catnip and it will give you that long winded name.
+
+01:18:38.300 --> 01:18:41.300
+I taught people how to take the Pfizer sequence as if they were
+
+01:18:41.300 --> 01:18:44.300
+given it as if they worked at the EMA or the health Canada.
+
+01:18:44.300 --> 01:18:47.300
+This is the tool that you would probably use to open it up and look
+
+01:18:47.300 --> 01:18:48.300
+at it.
+
+01:18:48.300 --> 01:18:49.300
+This is called snap gene.
+
+01:18:49.300 --> 01:18:52.300
+It's a free tool downloaded, opened the file,
+
+01:18:52.300 --> 01:18:55.300
+and it will instantly paint you the SV 40 regions.
+
+01:18:55.300 --> 01:18:59.300
+So this shows you that that someone had to go in and actively
+
+01:18:59.300 --> 01:19:02.300
+delete this because the standard tools in the industry paint this
+
+01:19:02.300 --> 01:19:03.300
+thing.
+
+01:19:03.300 --> 01:19:06.300
+So I don't get credit for finding SV 40 snap gene found it.
+
+01:19:06.300 --> 01:19:08.300
+It painted it the first time I loaded the sequence in,
+
+01:19:08.300 --> 01:19:11.300
+which is why I was really confused to see that it was not in
+
+01:19:11.300 --> 01:19:15.300
+Pfizer's plasma map because that told me somebody had to go
+
+01:19:15.300 --> 01:19:16.300
+and erase it.
+
+01:19:16.300 --> 01:19:18.300
+That's not an oops, I forgot it.
+
+01:19:18.300 --> 01:19:22.300
+That's a, I clearly wanted to deceive you type of move.
+
+01:19:22.300 --> 01:19:23.300
+Right.
+
+01:19:23.300 --> 01:19:25.300
+And this is just a picture of that second origin.
+
+01:19:25.300 --> 01:19:27.300
+Oh, I'm sorry, that second open reading.
+
+01:19:27.300 --> 01:19:31.300
+It's going in the opposite direction and teaches people how to go
+
+01:19:31.300 --> 01:19:34.300
+and look for these yourselves and some of the genes that that
+
+01:19:34.300 --> 01:19:35.300
+thing hits.
+
+01:19:35.300 --> 01:19:38.300
+They're not really strong hits, but I'm like, this is really weird.
+
+01:19:38.300 --> 01:19:40.300
+It says silk protein and silk.
+
+01:19:40.300 --> 01:19:42.300
+I'm not really strong hits.
+
+01:19:42.300 --> 01:19:43.300
+Stop saying that.
+
+01:19:43.300 --> 01:19:47.300
+And, um, and these not a very strong.
+
+01:19:47.300 --> 01:19:50.300
+Intervening sequences is SV 40 sequences.
+
+01:19:50.300 --> 01:19:51.300
+It's not just you.
+
+01:19:51.300 --> 01:19:53.300
+It's health Canada now, right?
+
+01:19:55.300 --> 01:19:59.300
+Yeah, they, they, they confirmed in that email that yes,
+
+01:19:59.300 --> 01:20:02.300
+we were given the sequence from the plasma, but we were not,
+
+01:20:02.300 --> 01:20:06.300
+we're not specifically annotated the SV 40 that was in that sequence.
+
+01:20:06.300 --> 01:20:10.300
+They, they annotated all those other pieces and just decided to not tell them
+
+01:20:10.300 --> 01:20:12.300
+about the SV 40 in the sequence.
+
+01:20:12.300 --> 01:20:14.300
+But they have some sequence to tell.
+
+01:20:14.300 --> 01:20:17.300
+A huge focus being a page in there and not telling them that he slips it in there.
+
+01:20:17.300 --> 01:20:19.300
+So they have the sequence themselves.
+
+01:20:19.300 --> 01:20:20.300
+They could have done it.
+
+01:20:20.300 --> 01:20:23.300
+They, they, they can, they can run snap gene just like anybody else.
+
+01:20:23.300 --> 01:20:29.300
+In theory, I suspect that they did until we published our work.
+
+01:20:29.300 --> 01:20:30.300
+Right.
+
+01:20:30.300 --> 01:20:31.300
+Oopsy.
+
+01:20:31.300 --> 01:20:36.300
+You've identified for us, Kevin, that, um, that the FDA and, and health Canada
+
+01:20:36.300 --> 01:20:40.300
+and the EMA potentially could allege that they were deceived.
+
+01:20:40.300 --> 01:20:44.300
+And perhaps they were deceived and that perhaps opens the door for them right now
+
+01:20:44.300 --> 01:20:46.300
+to take much more dramatic action.
+
+01:20:46.300 --> 01:20:50.300
+I think that's fair because if you look through the volume of data that
+
+01:20:50.300 --> 01:20:55.300
+Pfizer's handing over, it is, it's almost this drowned the regulator in materials
+
+01:20:55.300 --> 01:20:57.300
+so they can't possibly read it all.
+
+01:20:57.300 --> 01:20:59.300
+And that's really easy to do with sequence information.
+
+01:20:59.300 --> 01:21:03.300
+You hand them a file of 7,800 bases and unless they have the time that sets
+
+01:21:03.300 --> 01:21:06.300
+on a side and say, annotate this and look at this and tell me if there's
+
+01:21:06.300 --> 01:21:07.300
+something weird in it.
+
+01:21:07.300 --> 01:21:11.300
+They're, they're then also buried in all the PCR data, all the LPS data.
+
+01:21:11.300 --> 01:21:15.300
+They, they, they, you know, Pfizer even went out and engineered a new mass spec
+
+01:21:15.300 --> 01:21:19.300
+method of DNA sequencing to try to show them that their polyA signals were in,
+
+01:21:19.300 --> 01:21:21.300
+in the, in the vaccine were the right length.
+
+01:21:21.300 --> 01:21:25.300
+I mean, they did all of this work that I thought was fairly unnecessary and looked
+
+01:21:25.300 --> 01:21:28.300
+like a tactic of, of drowning regulators and data.
+
+01:21:28.300 --> 01:21:31.300
+That, that's probably what we're hearing here.
+
+01:21:31.300 --> 01:21:32.300
+They snowed them.
+
+01:21:32.300 --> 01:21:34.300
+Well, this is incredibly enlightening.
+
+01:21:34.300 --> 01:21:37.300
+Kevin, thank you so much for taking the time to explain this to us.
+
+01:21:37.300 --> 01:21:41.300
+I certainly have a much clearer picture and we can send people to your catnip,
+
+01:21:41.300 --> 01:21:43.300
+the pedal act tone.
+
+01:21:43.300 --> 01:21:44.300
+Is that right?
+
+01:21:44.300 --> 01:21:48.300
+New letter to get all the latest and look at it in greater detail again.
+
+01:21:48.300 --> 01:21:49.300
+Thank you both so much.
+
+01:21:49.300 --> 01:21:50.300
+Thank you.
+
+01:21:50.300 --> 01:21:51.300
+Thank you.
+
+01:21:51.300 --> 01:21:52.300
+Thank you.
+
+01:21:52.300 --> 01:21:53.300
+Thank you.
+
+01:21:53.300 --> 01:21:54.300
+Thank you so much, Kevin.
+
+01:21:54.300 --> 01:21:56.300
+And, and we look forward to your further research.
+
+01:21:56.300 --> 01:21:57.300
+Thank you for having us.
+
+01:21:57.300 --> 01:21:58.300
+Okay.
+
+01:21:58.300 --> 01:22:06.300
+So let me just summarize this really quickly and then let me give you my one minute
+
+01:22:06.300 --> 01:22:10.300
+summary about why I think we need to be careful about this.
+
+01:22:10.300 --> 01:22:13.300
+That was a lot of notes while he really went nuts there.
+
+01:22:13.300 --> 01:22:25.300
+So the big thing that seems to really impress Mary and, and Brian is that health
+
+01:22:25.300 --> 01:22:32.300
+Canada has decided to acknowledge that the SV40 enhancer and promoter sequences
+
+01:22:32.300 --> 01:22:38.300
+are there as evidence of double stranded DNA originating from the plasmid,
+
+01:22:38.300 --> 01:22:44.300
+which was used in process two manufacturing.
+
+01:22:44.300 --> 01:22:49.300
+Now, I find it a little interesting that Josh Getsko is the guy who kind of led
+
+01:22:49.300 --> 01:22:57.300
+the charge on the story of process one versus process two.
+
+01:22:57.300 --> 01:23:01.300
+He has been outspoken before about VAERS and other things.
+
+01:23:01.300 --> 01:23:10.300
+He seems to have auditioned quite early for participation in this on the team.
+
+01:23:10.300 --> 01:23:14.300
+And so being a part of that could mean that he's just a good guy who's been
+
+01:23:15.300 --> 01:23:18.300
+vigilant and working hard and pick this ball up and ran with it.
+
+01:23:18.300 --> 01:23:23.300
+And I hope that's the case.
+
+01:23:23.300 --> 01:23:30.300
+The Vyroid reference was interesting.
+
+01:23:30.300 --> 01:23:35.300
+That's naked RNA, which can infect plants.
+
+01:23:35.300 --> 01:23:42.300
+He was looking at trying to sequence Vyroids, and he needed an RNA polyA RNA control.
+
+01:23:42.300 --> 01:23:53.300
+And as he told me the story or told us the story on John Bodeman's St. Patrick's Day stream,
+
+01:23:53.300 --> 01:23:59.300
+he said that he sent out an all call to his network saying,
+
+01:23:59.300 --> 01:24:03.300
+hey guys, I need some polyA RNA for a control.
+
+01:24:03.300 --> 01:24:05.300
+Can anybody help me out?
+
+01:24:05.300 --> 01:24:11.300
+And then some random person sent him a box with three vials of the vaccine in it.
+
+01:24:11.300 --> 01:24:14.300
+That's the story that I remember.
+
+01:24:14.300 --> 01:24:23.300
+And so these were RNA samples that were not stored at the right temperature, shipped to him.
+
+01:24:23.300 --> 01:24:28.300
+And he was able to use them as controls, which also allowed them to get sequenced.
+
+01:24:28.300 --> 01:24:34.300
+And that's why we're here because then he found the plasmid DNA there.
+
+01:24:34.300 --> 01:24:39.300
+And remember that he would have assembled all kinds of little tiny fragments
+
+01:24:39.300 --> 01:24:42.300
+and then figured out that if you lined them up correctly,
+
+01:24:42.300 --> 01:24:49.300
+they reassembled into the original plasmid process, too.
+
+01:24:49.300 --> 01:24:53.300
+In case you're wondering, that's death on a unicorn there.
+
+01:24:53.300 --> 01:24:59.300
+It's for my daughter, kind of. She really likes unicorns.
+
+01:24:59.300 --> 01:25:06.300
+So he talked about PCR being used to produce the DNA for process one versus DNA plasmids
+
+01:25:06.300 --> 01:25:09.300
+plus bacteria to be used in process two.
+
+01:25:09.300 --> 01:25:16.300
+He did mention that the RNA being codon optimized
+
+01:25:16.300 --> 01:25:20.300
+and pseudoyuridine chemically altered made it stay around longer,
+
+01:25:20.300 --> 01:25:23.300
+was found in breast milk. He dropped a kind of all kinds of anecdotes there
+
+01:25:23.300 --> 01:25:25.300
+to finally say that it was a big train wreck.
+
+01:25:25.300 --> 01:25:33.300
+But that was about a 30 second, 15 second blip about the fact that the RNA is also bad.
+
+01:25:33.300 --> 01:25:36.300
+The RNA is also bad.
+
+01:25:36.300 --> 01:25:44.300
+Was briefly there, even though Kevin came on my stream twice in 2021 and 22
+
+01:25:44.300 --> 01:25:51.300
+to say many things about why the RNA itself was bad.
+
+01:25:51.300 --> 01:25:58.300
+And we know that the RNA could be reverse transcribed to DNA in theory.
+
+01:25:58.300 --> 01:26:00.300
+And so then you have DNA anyway.
+
+01:26:00.300 --> 01:26:07.300
+So again, we had that report earlier that there are places like in the liver
+
+01:26:07.300 --> 01:26:11.300
+where the line one enzyme is present and we can go backwards to DNA.
+
+01:26:11.300 --> 01:26:14.300
+And so then where are we? We're kind of in the same place again, right?
+
+01:26:14.300 --> 01:26:22.300
+So he talks about fluorometry versus PCR and using that to find double stranded DNA
+
+01:26:22.300 --> 01:26:37.300
+versus RNA. Many labs have now used his primers to find SV40 in these shots.
+
+01:26:37.300 --> 01:26:41.300
+Buck halter also used nanopore sequencing, but then only to look for his primer
+
+01:26:41.300 --> 01:26:46.300
+sequences, at least that's how he said it can't be true, but maybe it is.
+
+01:26:46.300 --> 01:26:52.300
+And then Sin Lee also used sanger sequencing to find, I don't think he went
+
+01:26:52.300 --> 01:27:05.300
+to look for the whole plasmid, but just for his little promoter sequences again, I think.
+
+01:27:05.300 --> 01:27:11.300
+So it's under the QPCR limit, which technically means then again that he didn't find a lot.
+
+01:27:11.300 --> 01:27:14.300
+And if you use fluorometry, then you're finding little tiny pieces
+
+01:27:14.300 --> 01:27:19.300
+and then you could call that being above the limit, but as he said, they're only concerned
+
+01:27:19.300 --> 01:27:24.300
+about longer pieces of DNA, and there's a reason for that.
+
+01:27:24.300 --> 01:27:28.300
+So him and Buck halter are making the argument that small pieces of DNA
+
+01:27:28.300 --> 01:27:31.300
+all have legatable ends, and so that makes them more dangerous.
+
+01:27:31.300 --> 01:27:38.300
+It's like a shotgun or a carpet bombing with the enhancer.
+
+01:27:38.300 --> 01:27:43.300
+But technically that's not true, I don't think, unless he's really found the enhancer
+
+01:27:43.300 --> 01:27:49.300
+intact, which I'm not really convinced that that's exactly what they found.
+
+01:27:49.300 --> 01:27:55.300
+They found lots of fragments that when you use an assembly program, you can find these things again,
+
+01:27:55.300 --> 01:28:02.300
+but I don't know how many intact segments of these enhancers and promoters are present.
+
+01:28:02.300 --> 01:28:09.300
+And I think that's part of the gray area there that's on purpose.
+
+01:28:09.300 --> 01:28:17.300
+And so then he talked a lot about the fact that the guidance documents surrounding these kinds of
+
+01:28:17.300 --> 01:28:24.300
+biologics are not up to date, and that the regulators therefore didn't really know how to regulate these things
+
+01:28:24.300 --> 01:28:26.300
+because they weren't up to date.
+
+01:28:26.300 --> 01:28:31.300
+So on top of the fact that the manufacturers tried to obfuscate what was there and how to look for it
+
+01:28:31.300 --> 01:28:36.300
+and whether they looked for it, the regulators themselves were also held back
+
+01:28:36.300 --> 01:28:47.300
+by their own out of date guidance documents.
+
+01:28:47.300 --> 01:28:50.300
+The genotoxicity studies were waived.
+
+01:28:50.300 --> 01:28:55.300
+He says, you know, it's pretty difficult to screen informatically for ribosome initiation sites.
+
+01:28:55.300 --> 01:29:02.300
+That's an interesting little slip there.
+
+01:29:02.300 --> 01:29:10.300
+And then the actual question is then, are these double-stranded DNA pieces actually integrating or not?
+
+01:29:10.300 --> 01:29:14.300
+Where are they integrating, how often, what are the odds, et cetera?
+
+01:29:14.300 --> 01:29:18.300
+And he zeroed in on one particular instance.
+
+01:29:18.300 --> 01:29:29.300
+And I noticed that this entire talk, this entire talk, this entire line, this entire talk, what did they not mention?
+
+01:29:29.300 --> 01:29:43.300
+When is the time when you would be most concerned about integration of genes, integration, or disruption of genes?
+
+01:29:43.300 --> 01:29:48.300
+When is the time when you would be most concerned about that?
+
+01:29:48.300 --> 01:29:50.300
+Would that be in an old person?
+
+01:29:50.300 --> 01:29:52.300
+Would that be in an adult?
+
+01:29:52.300 --> 01:29:56.300
+Would that be in a great big giant fat adult?
+
+01:29:56.300 --> 01:29:59.300
+Would that be in a teenager?
+
+01:29:59.300 --> 01:30:02.300
+What about a person who's already been through puberty?
+
+01:30:02.300 --> 01:30:06.300
+What about a pregnant woman with a fetus inside of her?
+
+01:30:06.300 --> 01:30:10.300
+Oh!
+
+01:30:10.300 --> 01:30:12.300
+So you don't want to mention that?
+
+01:30:12.300 --> 01:30:25.300
+You don't want to talk about that at all because gene integration into the fat cells of a 400 pound man who can't walk down the street and is 65 years old is not that dangerous.
+
+01:30:25.300 --> 01:30:38.300
+But injecting live-ended DNA with active mammalian promoters into pregnant women, now that might be a problem, ladies and gentlemen, we might need to back the truck up here.
+
+01:30:38.300 --> 01:30:48.300
+But of course we haven't mentioned that at all because we don't want to emphasize the part of the narrative which is about the malfeasance, the coercion.
+
+01:30:48.300 --> 01:30:54.300
+We want to emphasize the narrative about this ultra-complicated biology stuff.
+
+01:30:54.300 --> 01:30:57.300
+Not the really simple stuff.
+
+01:30:57.300 --> 01:31:02.300
+Like we didn't need to do this because people were not dying from a spreading respiratory disease.
+
+01:31:02.300 --> 01:31:08.300
+They were dying from ventilators and from remdesivir.
+
+01:31:08.300 --> 01:31:12.300
+You see where this went? How quickly this went off the rails?
+
+01:31:12.300 --> 01:31:19.300
+And it's because it's such a damn shiny object that nobody can stop looking at it.
+
+01:31:19.300 --> 01:31:23.300
+But if you understood the biology, it's actually not that shiny, okay?
+
+01:31:23.300 --> 01:31:27.300
+It's really not. I've got to get a new notebook here.
+
+01:31:27.300 --> 01:31:32.300
+I think that's number six.
+
+01:31:39.300 --> 01:31:43.300
+So look, here's the deal. Okay, I'm just going to make a list.
+
+01:31:43.300 --> 01:31:48.300
+This work.
+
+01:31:48.300 --> 01:32:07.300
+Okay, so first just understand this. Very simple fact, okay?
+
+01:32:07.300 --> 01:32:24.300
+Transfection is RNA. Transformation is DNA. If you use these processes to make proteins, you are transfecting or you are transforming your target.
+
+01:32:24.300 --> 01:32:36.300
+If you use an adenovirus carrying DNA to express the spike protein in a human, like in the J&J shot, you are transforming human cells.
+
+01:32:36.300 --> 01:32:46.300
+If you are using a lipid nanoparticle carrying an RNA to express spike protein in human cells, you are transfecting those cells.
+
+01:32:46.300 --> 01:32:56.300
+These two things have been products for sale as various methodologies for decades.
+
+01:32:57.300 --> 01:33:10.300
+And in the pandemic, we called these investigative vaccines.
+
+01:33:10.300 --> 01:33:18.300
+This is the story so far, okay? We know that transfection is RNA and transformation is DNA used to make proteins.
+
+01:33:18.300 --> 01:33:29.300
+And we know that we change the name of these processes, these methodologies without really significantly changing how they work and called them investigative vaccines.
+
+01:33:29.300 --> 01:33:47.300
+How do we know that's true? Because Peter Kullis told us that Peter Kullis, the great inventor of the LNP that was used to carry these transfections to our body's cells,
+
+01:33:47.300 --> 01:33:57.300
+told us that he burned five postdocs trying to learn how to target the LNP somewhere, and they failed.
+
+01:33:57.300 --> 01:34:11.300
+There's no more discussion. What do you need to talk about anymore? You don't need to burn biorum bridles, career anymore, you don't need to cite the Japanese paper, you don't need to cite the Japanese leak document.
+
+01:34:11.300 --> 01:34:25.300
+You can just cite the creator of the lipid nanoparticle who got screwed out of the Nobel Prize, who admitted it on camera in 2022.
+
+01:34:25.300 --> 01:34:33.300
+Almost in the same presentation that he said when I heard that the Pfizer data came out and was 95% effective, I opened a Scotch.
+
+01:34:34.300 --> 01:34:51.300
+Even though I knew in my head the lipid nanoparticle was going all over people's body and we couldn't control where it went and it maybe even went to their brain. But I had a Scotch anyway.
+
+01:34:51.300 --> 01:35:20.300
+The transfection in its purest form, so that would be best RNA, super pure, best top shelf LNP.
+
+01:35:21.300 --> 01:35:34.300
+And transfection in its purest form, it still doesn't work. It's a bad idea for healthy animals. That's the deal.
+
+01:35:35.300 --> 01:35:42.300
+Transfection in its purest form. But this wasn't transfection in its purest form.
+
+01:35:42.300 --> 01:36:04.300
+This was transfection with a foreign immunogen with human homology.
+
+01:36:04.300 --> 01:36:22.300
+Number one, number two, it was impure RNA that had been codon optimized.
+
+01:36:22.300 --> 01:36:28.300
+So that's misfolding.
+
+01:36:28.300 --> 01:36:41.300
+And it was also pseudoyuridine, which is premature stop.
+
+01:36:41.300 --> 01:36:51.300
+Plus, it's a wobble base, right? So it can be lots of different amino acids that it can code for when it goes through.
+
+01:36:51.300 --> 01:37:03.300
+It goes through the ribosome. And the LNP is a question for toxicity.
+
+01:37:03.300 --> 01:37:15.300
+And let's see, foreign immunogen, impure RNA, codon optimized, pseudoyuridine, LNP toxicity, protein fragments then, right?
+
+01:37:15.300 --> 01:37:21.300
+Because of these two things down here.
+
+01:37:21.300 --> 01:37:39.300
+And so even if transfection was in its purest form, super best RNA, super top shelf LNP, you'd still have the problem of you challenging your immune system to tell the difference between self and non-self when there are no signals related to viral infection.
+
+01:37:39.300 --> 01:37:45.300
+But then on top of that, you decided to use a foreign immunogen with human homologies.
+
+01:37:45.300 --> 01:37:52.300
+You decided to use an impure RNA rather than pure RNA. You decided to codon optimize it, which makes it misfold more.
+
+01:37:52.300 --> 01:38:07.300
+You decided to use pseudoyuridine to make it last longer, which also results in a wobble base and also results in premature stop codons, which results in protein fragments with unknown immunogenic quantity qualities.
+
+01:38:07.300 --> 01:38:12.300
+Plus the LNP toxicity is a big variable.
+
+01:38:12.300 --> 01:38:22.300
+And now on top of all of this, you have cDNA and endotoxin.
+
+01:38:22.300 --> 01:38:36.300
+And so the idea is, and I apologize, that my handwriting is very bad when I'm actually looking at the camera in here and I'm not really writing like I am on the other, I mean, just when I take notes, it looks really nice.
+
+01:38:36.300 --> 01:38:39.300
+But when you're watching me right, I don't write so well.
+
+01:38:39.300 --> 01:38:52.300
+The point is, again, I'm trying to make is that by focusing on the cDNA down here, we are ignoring that transfection in its purest form would suck.
+
+01:38:52.300 --> 01:38:57.300
+We're ignoring that the immunogen sucks. We're ignoring that the RNA sucked.
+
+01:38:57.300 --> 01:39:06.300
+We're ignoring that the codon optimization sucks. We're ignoring that the pseudoyuridine sucks, and we're ignoring that the LNP probably sucks.
+
+01:39:06.300 --> 01:39:18.300
+We're ignoring that these protein fragments make it suck even worse, and we're focused on this cDNA because we have this idea that maybe the regulators will finally act.
+
+01:39:18.300 --> 01:39:26.300
+And it's okay to think that way as long as we don't throw this list away.
+
+01:39:26.300 --> 01:39:41.300
+Because if we focus on the cDNA and put all of our eggs in the basket of Kevin McCurnan's observations, this is what's going to happen.
+
+01:39:42.300 --> 01:39:45.300
+Anti-vaxxers pretty much never come up with anything new.
+
+01:39:45.300 --> 01:39:53.300
+And recently, in dark, stinky corners of the internet, there have been claims about DNA contamination in COVID vaccines.
+
+01:39:53.300 --> 01:39:55.300
+This, again, is nothing new.
+
+01:39:55.300 --> 01:40:01.300
+It is recycled anti-vaccine garbage that has always been around for as long as vaccines have.
+
+01:40:01.300 --> 01:40:05.300
+Hey, I'm Dr. Wilson, I'm a PhD molecular biologist, and welcome to another COVID-demunking video.
+
+01:40:05.300 --> 01:40:11.300
+So, yeah, today I'm going to be tackling this claim that there is DNA contamination in COVID vaccines.
+
+01:40:11.300 --> 01:40:15.300
+But first, I want to cover some background on this topic.
+
+01:40:15.300 --> 01:40:24.300
+What you need to understand before learning why these claims are wrong is a little bit about how vaccines and other biologic drugs are made.
+
+01:40:24.300 --> 01:40:30.300
+All biological drugs, including vaccines, have a step in their manufacturing that uses cells.
+
+01:40:30.300 --> 01:40:38.300
+These can be mammalian cells, these can be bacterial cells, depends on the product, and what is needed.
+
+01:40:38.300 --> 01:40:48.300
+For example, to make insulin, which is needed to keep diabetics all over the world alive, you need bacterial cells that are genetically engineered to produce human insulin.
+
+01:40:48.300 --> 01:40:56.300
+Once the human insulin is made, all the bacteria and all the parts of the bacteria are separated away from the insulin, and the insulin is the drug product.
+
+01:40:56.300 --> 01:41:04.300
+Another example are polio vaccines. In order to get a polio vaccine, you need a virus, and the virus is grown in cells.
+
+01:41:04.300 --> 01:41:09.300
+But just like the insulin, the virus needs to be taken away from the cells and all the cells parts in order to make the actual vaccine product.
+
+01:41:09.300 --> 01:41:17.300
+Whatever the case may be, there are a slew of long-established tests that are done to ensure that your drug product has actually been removed from the cell's parts.
+
+01:41:17.300 --> 01:41:22.300
+There are tests that are designed to look for how much host cell DNA is left in the drug product after you have finished making it,
+
+01:41:22.300 --> 01:41:26.300
+same with host cell proteins, more bacterial endotoxin, and several other things.
+
+01:41:26.300 --> 01:41:32.300
+All of these tests are required by regulatory laws to be done on each and every lot of biological drug that goes out onto the market.
+
+01:41:32.300 --> 01:41:37.300
+And there are set limits as to how much residual material can be found in those drug products.
+
+01:41:37.300 --> 01:41:40.300
+These are very strict guidelines that pharmaceutical companies have to abide by.
+
+01:41:40.300 --> 01:41:45.300
+In addition to good manufacturing procedure, which is abbreviated GMP, we also have good documentation procedure and good lab procedures.
+
+01:41:45.300 --> 01:41:47.300
+All of this can be summarized as just GXP.
+
+01:41:47.300 --> 01:41:50.300
+So moving forward, I'll be referring to all of these guidelines as GXP.
+
+01:41:50.300 --> 01:41:55.300
+If any of those GXP guidelines are not met or there are deviations from their protocols, then that is a huge no-no,
+
+01:41:55.300 --> 01:42:02.300
+and it would result in a lot not even going out in the first place, or being recalled, or a number of other things, including fines and disciplinary actions against those responsible.
+
+01:42:02.300 --> 01:42:05.300
+So it's kind of a big deal, which is why there are many layers to these regulations.
+
+01:42:05.300 --> 01:42:10.300
+The pharmaceutical company itself is required to do in-house testing to show that their product meets all of these regulations,
+
+01:42:10.300 --> 01:42:14.300
+and the regulatory body, in this case for the US being the FDA, will double check those results,
+
+01:42:14.300 --> 01:42:19.300
+meaning that they can perform their own testing in their own labs, and furthermore, when those drugs go out to other countries,
+
+01:42:19.300 --> 01:42:23.300
+those other countries' own regulatory bodies will also do in-house testing on the products that they receive.
+
+01:42:23.300 --> 01:42:28.300
+Again, by the end of it, the levels of residual host cell protein, DNA, whatever, have to be below a certain set limit.
+
+01:42:28.300 --> 01:42:31.300
+Anything below that certain set limit is considered to be trace amounts.
+
+01:42:31.300 --> 01:42:35.300
+And in those trace amounts, these materials will not have a biological effect on whoever receives the drug.
+
+01:42:35.300 --> 01:42:39.300
+So in other words, if there is no biological effect being exerted by these materials in these trace amounts,
+
+01:42:39.300 --> 01:42:42.300
+then for all intents and purposes, they might as well not be there.
+
+01:42:42.300 --> 01:42:46.300
+So that's what we mean when we say, no, there is no contamination in these materials.
+
+01:42:46.300 --> 01:42:56.300
+So do you see how easy it would be for CHD to tie their ropes to Kevin McCurnan and start to fight on his behalf,
+
+01:42:56.300 --> 01:42:58.300
+maybe even give him a T-shirt?
+
+01:42:58.300 --> 01:43:04.300
+And then because we have put all of our eggs in the CDNA contamination basket,
+
+01:43:04.300 --> 01:43:14.300
+even if a very small fraction of what Dan Wilson says in this video is really dead on balls accurate,
+
+01:43:14.300 --> 01:43:24.300
+it's still going to be sufficient for the vast majority of his viewership to discard Kevin McCurnan as an anti-vaxxer.
+
+01:43:24.300 --> 01:43:30.300
+And as we watch this, you're going to see that a lot of the objections that he brings up are the same kind of objections
+
+01:43:30.300 --> 01:43:37.300
+that somebody sitting on the FDA board would bring up, same kind of objections that other people on Twitter bring up.
+
+01:43:38.300 --> 01:43:47.300
+And so unless we're really ready to go toe to toe with these people on the molecular biology, or Kevin is willing to do it,
+
+01:43:47.300 --> 01:43:56.300
+then we're setting ourselves up essentially to substitute and jump into the ring instead of Kevin.
+
+01:43:56.300 --> 01:44:04.300
+And instead of Kevin's co-authors, CHD is about to jump in front and say, well,
+
+01:44:04.300 --> 01:44:11.300
+health Canada says, and Kevin McCurnan says, so children's health defense says,
+
+01:44:11.300 --> 01:44:19.300
+and now debunk the funk, and a bunch of other people can accuse us of being completely wrong.
+
+01:44:19.300 --> 01:44:25.300
+Whereas if I think we stuck to this list I just put up, starting with the fact that
+
+01:44:25.300 --> 01:44:31.300
+transfection in its purest form is still a stupid idea in healthy people,
+
+01:44:31.300 --> 01:44:35.300
+we would have a lot stronger, solid ground to stand on,
+
+01:44:35.300 --> 01:44:39.300
+and by the time we got to complaining about the CDNA contamination,
+
+01:44:39.300 --> 01:44:43.300
+we would have already hit a home run or a grand slam.
+
+01:44:43.300 --> 01:44:48.300
+A couple people would have already crossed the plate, you know what I mean?
+
+01:44:49.300 --> 01:44:57.300
+And I'm very worried about this idea that we are being baited into accepting this as a whoa, this is great.
+
+01:44:57.300 --> 01:45:01.300
+And now the regulators will call it off the market for a few months,
+
+01:45:01.300 --> 01:45:06.300
+and then when a new one comes on the market and the regulators have really cracked down,
+
+01:45:06.300 --> 01:45:11.300
+and there's no more DNA in these shots,
+
+01:45:11.300 --> 01:45:16.300
+then everybody will be bamboozled again.
+
+01:45:16.300 --> 01:45:23.300
+Because transfection has been given a pass because of the CDNA contamination.
+
+01:45:23.300 --> 01:45:27.300
+He already believes transfection works great.
+
+01:45:27.300 --> 01:45:35.300
+Don't forget that half of the country doesn't know that transfection is a terrible idea.
+
+01:45:35.300 --> 01:45:42.300
+So it's not really a good idea to bring those people to the truth by first telling them an anecdote
+
+01:45:42.300 --> 01:45:54.300
+that, yeah, there's some contamination in there, and that might integrate into your genome.
+
+01:45:54.300 --> 01:45:56.300
+We've got to be very, very careful.
+
+01:45:56.300 --> 01:45:59.300
+Listen to the rest of this video just so you can see what I'm talking about.
+
+01:45:59.300 --> 01:46:03.300
+This is not funny.
+
+01:46:03.300 --> 01:46:10.300
+He's got a team of people, you know, he didn't do this all by himself.
+
+01:46:10.300 --> 01:46:14.300
+Other people seem to think that they've found differently, and it's quite a funny story, so let's get into it.
+
+01:46:14.300 --> 01:46:18.300
+So when it comes to COVID mRNA vaccines, some people who have a history of subscribing to anti-vaccine
+
+01:46:18.300 --> 01:46:23.300
+kind of deranged conspiracy theories claim to have found plasmid DNA in the mRNA vaccines.
+
+01:46:23.300 --> 01:46:25.300
+What is plasmid DNA, you might ask?
+
+01:46:25.300 --> 01:46:29.300
+Well, it comes from the manufacturing process used in making mRNA vaccines.
+
+01:46:29.300 --> 01:46:31.300
+A plasmid is a circular piece of DNA that can be taken up.
+
+01:46:31.300 --> 01:46:34.300
+You know what's most frustrating about this for me?
+
+01:46:34.300 --> 01:46:48.300
+That this whole story of using plasmid DNA in process two is exactly what I'm talking about when I say that they make infectious clones to study RNA viruses.
+
+01:46:48.300 --> 01:46:54.300
+It is exactly this process, and it is exactly as Kevin McCurnan said in that stream.
+
+01:46:54.300 --> 01:46:58.300
+They can make as much as they want.
+
+01:46:58.300 --> 01:47:07.300
+There's no limit. They have an infinite amount of plasmid. All they have to do is keep feeding the bacteria.
+
+01:47:07.300 --> 01:47:24.300
+That's why infectious clones can be used to create a pandemic, because you're not relying on some kind of magical RNA to be ridiculously high fidelity for three years and circulate the globe in a cartoon-like fashion.
+
+01:47:25.300 --> 01:47:32.300
+You're relying on brute force.
+
+01:47:32.300 --> 01:47:40.300
+RNA is a bit like paint. It doesn't replicate itself very well. It dilutes.
+
+01:47:40.300 --> 01:47:51.300
+So if I go outside of my garage and spill a bucket of paint on the ground, the only way it's going to spread is if people walk through it.
+
+01:47:51.300 --> 01:47:58.300
+And maybe if you were really careful, you could scoop up enough paint so that you could get some paint on the house next door.
+
+01:47:58.300 --> 01:48:03.300
+And you could argue that, wow, the blue paint is spreading everywhere.
+
+01:48:03.300 --> 01:48:10.300
+But to say that all the houses in Pittsburgh are because I dump paint in the backyard would be ridiculous.
+
+01:48:10.300 --> 01:48:20.300
+But if I had a giant truck full of blue paint, I could drive all around Pittsburgh and spread it all over the place and make it look like my paint had spread all over.
+
+01:48:20.300 --> 01:48:29.300
+But anybody who knows how paint works would be like, well, it couldn't have been Jay's fault for spilling it in his backyard that it got all over Squirrel Hill in Pittsburgh.
+
+01:48:29.300 --> 01:48:34.300
+That's impossible. Paint doesn't work like that.
+
+01:48:34.300 --> 01:48:41.300
+And there should be lots of biologists that are saying that RNA viruses don't pandemic.
+
+01:48:41.300 --> 01:48:49.300
+But infectious clones could be used to make it look like they was a pandemic.
+
+01:48:49.300 --> 01:49:04.300
+There should be hundreds, if not thousands, of biologists saying this just from a rudimentary understanding of the difference between double-stranded DNA and its copying versus single-stranded RNA and its copying.
+
+01:49:04.300 --> 01:49:18.300
+But instead, the moment I started talking about infectious clones as the ubiquitous way with which we study at RNA virology, Kevin McCernan himself got so tired of arguing about it
+
+01:49:18.300 --> 01:49:24.300
+that he blocked me on Twitter.
+
+01:49:24.300 --> 01:49:37.300
+This is not insignificant, ladies and gentlemen, that for process two and for making of the spike protein for all these different vaccines, it's fine to talk about recombinant DNA being replicated in a bacterial culture.
+
+01:49:37.300 --> 01:49:46.300
+But if I talk about how they do that with all coronaviruses all the time, and that barracks the guy who invented it and made it ubiquitous for everybody,
+
+01:49:46.300 --> 01:49:58.300
+and that's how they share these things, they send these clones around, all the stored viruses at the CDC are actually clones, and everybody got mad.
+
+01:49:58.300 --> 01:50:02.300
+Oh, no, you're an idiot. Don't listen to him.
+
+01:50:02.300 --> 01:50:06.300
+He's compromised.
+
+01:50:06.300 --> 01:50:19.300
+It is the standard technique by which they make all biologics. Do you hear it? It's the standard technique by which they make all biologics.
+
+01:50:19.300 --> 01:50:26.300
+That is the reason why the clone story is the answer.
+
+01:50:26.300 --> 01:50:35.300
+You can't make a little bit of an RNA virus and then let it loose and have it go change the world. That's not how RNA works.
+
+01:50:35.300 --> 01:50:39.300
+And these people all know it. They have to.
+
+01:50:39.300 --> 01:50:45.300
+Or they're participating in kind of a I don't want to know kind of thing.
+
+01:50:45.300 --> 01:50:51.300
+Because all you got to do is let your brain work. And this becomes basic biology.
+
+01:50:51.300 --> 01:50:57.300
+By things like bacteria and then expressed, meaning that the DNA can be read by cellular machinery and made into mRNA.
+
+01:50:57.300 --> 01:51:02.300
+Once the mRNA is made, the DNA is chopped up and the pieces are mostly removed from the final drug product.
+
+01:51:02.300 --> 01:51:15.300
+But this guy, a Mr Kevin McKernan, claims that he has gotten some vials of COVID mRNA vaccine and has found contamination of plasma DNA in the vaccine vials at levels orders of magnitude higher and the regulated limit.
+
+01:51:15.300 --> 01:51:22.300
+Wow, this should be good. He has written up his results and posted them on this regulation free preprint server, meaning that there's no safeguard, no peer review.
+
+01:51:22.300 --> 01:51:27.300
+We already go back to Kevin's talk and already preview what's going to happen here, right?
+
+01:51:27.300 --> 01:51:35.300
+The orders of magnitude statement comes from the fluorometry versus the QPCR.
+
+01:51:35.300 --> 01:51:41.300
+And in the discussion with Mary and Brian, Kevin was very clear.
+
+01:51:41.300 --> 01:51:50.300
+Using QPCR, they found levels of DNA lower than the minimum required or minimum allowed.
+
+01:51:50.300 --> 01:51:57.300
+But with using fluorometry, they found several orders of magnitude more than that.
+
+01:51:57.300 --> 01:52:10.300
+And so the argument that Dan is going to make is that fluorometry isn't an accurate representation of dangerous DNA because it's picking up all kinds of tiny little fragments.
+
+01:52:10.300 --> 01:52:15.300
+That's the exact argument that's going to happen here. Now, who wins that argument?
+
+01:52:15.300 --> 01:52:18.300
+What's the right answer there? Do you know?
+
+01:52:18.300 --> 01:52:21.300
+I thought this was just a home run.
+
+01:52:21.300 --> 01:52:26.300
+That even goes into what people can post on it, so it's not peer reviewed and it's not checked by anybody before it goes up.
+
+01:52:26.300 --> 01:52:30.300
+But that really doesn't even begin to describe the many problems with what he has presented here.
+
+01:52:30.300 --> 01:52:38.300
+So let's start with this. He writes that the COVID mRNA vaccine vials were sent to him anonymously in the mail without cold packs.
+
+01:52:38.300 --> 01:52:43.300
+Oh, wait, you serious? Let me laugh even harder.
+
+01:52:43.300 --> 01:52:46.300
+I could honestly end the video right here. That is really bad.
+
+01:52:46.300 --> 01:52:49.300
+This already violates the good documentation procedure of GXP guidelines.
+
+01:52:49.300 --> 01:52:53.300
+Not only do you have no idea who handled those vials before you receive them.
+
+01:52:53.300 --> 01:52:58.300
+Now, remember the story that he told Mary was that he didn't really mean to sequence the vials. It wasn't his intention.
+
+01:52:58.300 --> 01:53:07.300
+He just wanted a standard polyA RNA to control the experiment that he was doing.
+
+01:53:07.300 --> 01:53:17.300
+But look how inconvenient that aspect of the experiment is if someone from the other side can completely make fun of it.
+
+01:53:17.300 --> 01:53:22.300
+And it's not really that bad of a critique, right? I mean, it is.
+
+01:53:22.300 --> 01:53:34.300
+You should really probably start with a fresh vial, right? You should at least know where it was or how long it wasn't chilled like.
+
+01:53:35.300 --> 01:53:38.300
+But they're clearly not stored properly if they're not even sent on cold packs.
+
+01:53:38.300 --> 01:53:41.300
+Any self-respecting scientist would immediately recognize that this is not the right way to do this experiment.
+
+01:53:41.300 --> 01:53:46.300
+A competent and self-respecting scientist would make sure that they do the experiment right and actually have vials that have documentation
+
+01:53:46.300 --> 01:53:52.300
+so that they can show who handled them before they received them, but they were stored properly and make sure that there's no funny business going on with whatever you're testing.
+
+01:53:52.300 --> 01:53:55.300
+But we're not dealing with one of those people here and I'm not ending the video here.
+
+01:53:55.300 --> 01:54:00.300
+I'm going to be thorough and look at the results that they actually obtained with these mystery garbage vials.
+
+01:54:01.300 --> 01:54:07.300
+Let's go back to what I said earlier about there being tests to determine whether or not residual materials in your drug product are actually below the regulated acceptable limit.
+
+01:54:07.300 --> 01:54:12.300
+In order to demonstrate that tests are done to quantify the levels of residual materials in the drug product.
+
+01:54:12.300 --> 01:54:16.300
+So the obvious question is, I mean, you could even make the argument that the FDA would say the same thing, right?
+
+01:54:16.300 --> 01:54:19.300
+We don't know where these vials were. You got them in the mail, they were garbage.
+
+01:54:19.300 --> 01:54:23.300
+We're not going to take your word for these.
+
+01:54:23.300 --> 01:54:26.300
+They might even say to you that that was illegal.
+
+01:54:26.300 --> 01:54:29.300
+There's a law that these are the property of the government.
+
+01:54:29.300 --> 01:54:34.300
+You're not allowed to do anything with them except to inject them in people's arms or it's against the law.
+
+01:54:34.300 --> 01:54:35.300
+It's a federal law.
+
+01:54:35.300 --> 01:54:37.300
+They could even say that.
+
+01:54:37.300 --> 01:54:40.300
+That's where we are right now.
+
+01:54:40.300 --> 01:54:48.300
+Is CHD going to put their name on this and then get accused of doing something illegal or supporting the illegal something something?
+
+01:54:48.300 --> 01:54:50.300
+I don't know. I don't know that that's going to happen.
+
+01:54:50.300 --> 01:54:51.300
+I'm not a lawyer.
+
+01:54:51.300 --> 01:55:05.300
+I'm just saying it ain't so cut and dry as let's give Kevin McCurn in a sweatshirt and hat and get him on the team and give him a baseball bat and get him up to the plate.
+
+01:55:05.300 --> 01:55:10.300
+Here is did have here actually quantify the levels of plasma DNA in the vials.
+
+01:55:10.300 --> 01:55:12.300
+Well, he tried, but he didn't really.
+
+01:55:12.300 --> 01:55:15.300
+The key figure here in his blog post is this one.
+
+01:55:15.300 --> 01:55:17.300
+This is where he tried to make a standard curve.
+
+01:55:17.300 --> 01:55:23.300
+If you want to have a standard curve made up of known values so that you can compare your unknown samples against it and actually quantify a value.
+
+01:55:23.300 --> 01:55:37.300
+So this is his attempted standard curve where he just ran some known amounts of DNA on a PCR and then on a seemingly separate PCR assay ran his material from the vaccine vials and just compared the two separate assays, which not good.
+
+01:55:37.300 --> 01:55:38.300
+You don't want to do that.
+
+01:55:38.300 --> 01:55:41.300
+You ideally want to compare them within the same assay, but there's a lot more wrong here.
+
+01:55:41.300 --> 01:55:43.300
+So let's go right to the meat of what is wrong.
+
+01:55:43.300 --> 01:55:45.300
+There's a lot of analysis missing from this standard curve.
+
+01:55:45.300 --> 01:55:51.300
+He just reports that this certain value came up around cycle 20 and seems to be fine with just mentioning that.
+
+01:55:51.300 --> 01:55:53.300
+So I analyze the data for him.
+
+01:55:53.300 --> 01:55:57.300
+Whenever you make a standard curve in a quantitative PCR experiment, there are several basic things that you really should do.
+
+01:55:57.300 --> 01:56:01.300
+Two of those basic things is calculating the linearity and efficiency of your reaction.
+
+01:56:01.300 --> 01:56:02.300
+Again, he didn't do that here.
+
+01:56:02.300 --> 01:56:03.300
+So I did it for him.
+
+01:56:03.300 --> 01:56:07.300
+The linearity of his standard curve looks fine, but the efficiency of the reaction is where he run into a problem.
+
+01:56:07.300 --> 01:56:11.300
+In any PCR, the number of molecules present should double with each cycle.
+
+01:56:11.300 --> 01:56:14.300
+And the efficiency of a quantitative PCR reaction is measuring that.
+
+01:56:14.300 --> 01:56:16.300
+It's measuring how efficient the reaction was.
+
+01:56:16.300 --> 01:56:23.300
+Usually in GXP world and just across the board, a range of 90 to 110 percent efficiency is considered acceptable.
+
+01:56:23.300 --> 01:56:25.300
+Kev's efficiency here was around 70 percent.
+
+01:56:25.300 --> 01:56:35.300
+There could be many reasons that a PCR's efficiency would be low like this, but normally those reasons will be ironed out when you're actually qualifying your standard operating procedure for your assay, which Kev didn't do.
+
+01:56:35.300 --> 01:56:45.300
+Now, because he didn't actually post his mean cycle threshold values, I didn't have precise numbers to plug into this calculator, but I judged as best as I could, and I was even as generous as possible with the decimal points.
+
+01:56:45.300 --> 01:56:48.300
+But no matter how much I played with it, I couldn't get the efficiency above 75 percent.
+
+01:56:48.300 --> 01:56:51.300
+So let's be generous and say that the efficiency of the reaction was 75 percent.
+
+01:56:51.300 --> 01:56:55.300
+In a GXP experiment, that would invalidate the entire experiment.
+
+01:56:55.300 --> 01:56:57.300
+So essentially his assay failed, and his results are unusable.
+
+01:56:57.300 --> 01:56:58.300
+And there's good reason for this.
+
+01:56:58.300 --> 01:57:04.300
+If the efficiency is low, that means that the curves on this graph here are artificially shifted to the right, which means that you're not really making a difference.
+
+01:57:04.300 --> 01:57:06.300
+You're not really measuring accurate numbers at all.
+
+01:57:06.300 --> 01:57:08.300
+Just for comparison, here are data that I pulled from one of my experiments.
+
+01:57:08.300 --> 01:57:11.300
+You can see that the efficiency is well within range, and when the arity is pretty good.
+
+01:57:11.300 --> 01:57:12.300
+This is a passing assay.
+
+01:57:12.300 --> 01:57:13.300
+This is a failing assay.
+
+01:57:13.300 --> 01:57:20.300
+Kev is trying to criticize pharmaceutical companies' manufacturing processes while not being able to meet the standards of good manufacturing procedures himself.
+
+01:57:20.300 --> 01:57:27.300
+The theme from earlier when I talked about where the samples came from of just not taking the time to do this experiment the right way is very consistent throughout this whole thing.
+
+01:57:27.300 --> 01:57:28.300
+And yeah, there's more, it gets worse.
+
+01:57:28.300 --> 01:57:33.300
+So already he's failed the good documentation procedures, and now he has failed his actual assay, his experiment.
+
+01:57:33.300 --> 01:57:37.300
+But let's forgive that and move on and analyze the data further for tending like it's valid.
+
+01:57:37.300 --> 01:57:42.300
+Because remember, he claims to have found DNA in amounts that are orders of magnitude higher than what the regulatory limits set.
+
+01:57:42.300 --> 01:57:44.300
+So did he actually find that much DNA?
+
+01:57:44.300 --> 01:57:46.300
+Well, no, he didn't care ready for this one.
+
+01:57:46.300 --> 01:57:49.300
+In order to calculate how much DNA you actually have in your drug product, you have to do a few things.
+
+01:57:49.300 --> 01:57:56.300
+Once you have your standard curve and you're unknown plotted against it, it depends whether or not your standard curve is measuring copies or gram amounts.
+
+01:57:56.300 --> 01:57:58.300
+Kev's standard curve here is in gram amounts, and that's fine.
+
+01:57:58.300 --> 01:57:59.300
+We can work with that.
+
+01:57:59.300 --> 01:58:03.300
+And so I did, I put all the math involved here into a Google Excel sheet that you can access and look at yourself.
+
+01:58:03.300 --> 01:58:04.300
+It's in the description below.
+
+01:58:04.300 --> 01:58:05.300
+So go check that out.
+
+01:58:05.300 --> 01:58:06.300
+You want to check my math?
+
+01:58:06.300 --> 01:58:18.300
+But to make this as simple as possible, if I am as generous as possible, and I assume that all of the DNA copies that he has measured in this experiment are representing full-length intact plasmid, the total gram amount in a single dose of COVID vaccine would be 81 nanograms.
+
+01:58:18.300 --> 01:58:21.300
+So that's not orders of magnitude higher than regulatory limits.
+
+01:58:21.300 --> 01:58:24.300
+But we're not dealing with full-length intact plasmid here.
+
+01:58:24.300 --> 01:58:30.300
+Again, remember what I said about the manufacturing process, where after the mRNA is made, the DNA gets chopped up and mostly removed from the drug product.
+
+01:58:30.300 --> 01:58:32.300
+The DNA is going to be in pieces.
+
+01:58:32.300 --> 01:58:36.300
+So normally what people would do is look at the average length size of DNA in the final product.
+
+01:58:36.300 --> 01:58:38.300
+This can be done by doing what's called an electroph diagram.
+
+01:58:38.300 --> 01:58:39.300
+Kev actually did one.
+
+01:58:39.300 --> 01:58:43.300
+And he shows that most of the DNA in the vial is fragmented.
+
+01:58:43.300 --> 01:58:44.300
+In fact, it's very short.
+
+01:58:44.300 --> 01:58:46.300
+About 100 base pairs is the biggest peak that he gets.
+
+01:58:46.300 --> 01:58:50.300
+The full-length plasmid is going to be on the order of 15,000 bases.
+
+01:58:50.300 --> 01:58:52.300
+Okay, so this is a false argument, right?
+
+01:58:52.300 --> 01:58:54.300
+We also said this earlier.
+
+01:58:54.300 --> 01:58:57.300
+The idea that you need the whole plasmid is not the deal.
+
+01:58:57.300 --> 01:59:12.300
+The deal is that you need a meaningful size of DNA that's not supposed to be there, that it gives a potential for this integration or potential for mRNA production or potential for translocation to the nucleus.
+
+01:59:12.300 --> 01:59:17.300
+Some additional problem because of the DNA being there.
+
+01:59:18.300 --> 01:59:25.300
+So he's kind of, you know, making a crappy argument here that we can't find any full plasmid so it's no big deal.
+
+01:59:25.300 --> 01:59:37.300
+And this is kind of in parallel, but the flip side to Kevin and Buckhalter's argument that the smaller these pieces are, the more active ends there are, and that's kind of like carpet bombing the genome.
+
+01:59:37.300 --> 01:59:40.300
+Now, let's just listen.
+
+01:59:40.300 --> 01:59:48.300
+So while Kev's own results show that most of the DNA is fragmented, he doesn't show an average base pair length, which is what you would use to calculate how much DNA you actually have.
+
+01:59:48.300 --> 02:00:00.300
+So I looked at some historical data for similar biological products and similar electropharium curves, and I think 800 to 1,000 base pairs is a good average to estimate for average base pair length in this sample.
+
+02:00:00.300 --> 02:00:04.300
+I'll be generous and say 1,000 base pairs is the average length, so knowing that and knowing how many...
+
+02:00:04.300 --> 02:00:12.300
+That we know is wrong from Buckhalter's estimation. The smallest... the pieces are really much tinier than that, so this is wrong.
+
+02:00:12.300 --> 02:00:20.300
+This is definitely, at least from the perspective of trying to debunk Kevin and Buckhalter's work, this is wrong.
+
+02:00:20.300 --> 02:00:38.300
+And so you shouldn't be surprised. I'm not surprised that the debunk and his team or his helpers are going to get some of this incorrect, or at least represented disingenuously by saying that the average length of the double stranded plasma is 1,000 base pairs.
+
+02:00:38.300 --> 02:00:49.300
+I'm pretty sure Kevin didn't say that, and I'm pretty sure that Buckhalter actually measured them with the nanopore sequencing, and we could probably go back and look.
+
+02:00:49.300 --> 02:01:00.300
+But I think that I think that was also, they were much, much tinier, and that was Buckhalter's full argument was that they were so small, and that's what makes them not work.
+
+02:01:00.300 --> 02:01:03.300
+It's going to take me a while to find that. I'll just keep it plain.
+
+02:01:03.300 --> 02:01:10.300
+Because you measured in the actual QPCR reaction, you can calculate the nanogram amount of DNA, which comes out to five nanograms.
+
+02:01:10.300 --> 02:01:13.300
+That's about how much DNA Kev actually measured in this experiment.
+
+02:01:13.300 --> 02:01:15.300
+He keeps calling him Kev.
+
+02:01:15.300 --> 02:01:18.300
+He keeps calling him Kev. That to me is a little weird.
+
+02:01:18.300 --> 02:01:22.300
+I've never called him Kev, and I've actually had him on my stream.
+
+02:01:22.300 --> 02:01:28.300
+I had a good friend when I was a kid, though, Kevin. I used to call Kev a lot, but...
+
+02:01:28.300 --> 02:01:35.300
+On multiple levels, and was done on mystery vials with no documentation history, and he thought that this was a big find.
+
+02:01:35.300 --> 02:01:40.300
+Okay, so moving on a little bit, that five nanogram amount?
+
+02:01:40.300 --> 02:01:47.300
+Remember, that is me being as generous as possible with the numbers, and also ignoring the fact that his QPCR efficiency failed, which means that his standard curve is...
+
+02:01:47.300 --> 02:01:52.300
+Actually shifted to the left, which means that his samples are going to be an even lower gram amount on that standard curve.
+
+02:01:52.300 --> 02:01:57.300
+So, if this experiment was done the right way, you would probably get an even lower gram amount than what is shown here.
+
+02:01:57.300 --> 02:02:02.300
+So how do we know that Kev is wrong without even doing any of this analysis of his garbage data?
+
+02:02:02.300 --> 02:02:06.300
+We know because, again, regulatory bodies do this for us, and we've seen the results.
+
+02:02:06.300 --> 02:02:10.300
+For example, here's a summary of COVID vaccine batch release information from Australia.
+
+02:02:10.300 --> 02:02:15.300
+These vials were made by Pfizer, tested in-house by them, released by the regulatory body, and then went to Australia.
+
+02:02:15.300 --> 02:02:19.300
+And their regulatory body tested it themselves, and found that it passed all of the criteria.
+
+02:02:19.300 --> 02:02:26.300
+That means that all of the residual plasmid, the hostel DNA, the hostel proteins, the endotoxin, everything was below the acceptable limit, meaning that it was in trace amounts.
+
+02:02:26.300 --> 02:02:28.300
+In other words, practically nothing there.
+
+02:02:28.300 --> 02:02:36.300
+So either there's a global conspiracy among pharmaceutical companies and regulatory bodies all over the world, everyone's lying, or Kev just has no idea what he's doing.
+
+02:02:36.300 --> 02:02:38.300
+I think it's the latter.
+
+02:02:38.300 --> 02:02:42.300
+So you might think that that's the end of this video, but, oh no, there's more, it gets worse.
+
+02:02:42.300 --> 02:02:47.300
+So after blogging about these findings, Kev went on to say that these findings have health implications.
+
+02:02:47.300 --> 02:02:57.300
+He went on to claim that a promoter, which is a DNA sequence that sits in front of a gene on DNA and helps the DNA actually get read by cellular machinery, is somehow going to cause cancer.
+
+02:02:57.300 --> 02:03:08.300
+Yeah, he thinks that a promoter is somehow going to get into your cell nucleus and integrate itself into your DNA and just happen to integrate in front of a gene that, if misregulated, would contribute to cancer.
+
+02:03:08.300 --> 02:03:11.300
+And this is exactly what I just said.
+
+02:03:11.300 --> 02:03:17.300
+So parts he gets right, parts he gets wrong, parts he gets right again.
+
+02:03:17.300 --> 02:03:20.300
+It's exactly the bamboozlement.
+
+02:03:20.300 --> 02:03:38.300
+It's exactly how it always happens with Rogan, with Weinstein, with with Robert Malone and Steven Hadfield, with Rick Bright, with Tony Fauci, with EcoHealth Alliance, with Bobby Kennedy, with everyone.
+
+02:03:39.300 --> 02:03:44.300
+It's extraordinary how nobody can seem to get it straight.
+
+02:03:44.300 --> 02:03:49.300
+And they all make catastrophic errors when it comes to the faith.
+
+02:03:49.300 --> 02:03:55.300
+The faith in a novel virus, the faith in a million people dying and a million people could have been saved.
+
+02:03:55.300 --> 02:04:02.300
+The faith in the RNA and that it did something, the faith in gain of function and that a virus will come again.
+
+02:04:03.300 --> 02:04:12.300
+So let's argue about contamination of the shot with CDNA derived from the process to that they lied about.
+
+02:04:17.300 --> 02:04:24.300
+You know, this would be a pretty stupid idea if there were no evidence of random external promoters integrating themselves into your DNA.
+
+02:04:24.300 --> 02:04:25.300
+There isn't.
+
+02:04:25.300 --> 02:04:30.300
+It would be doubly stupid if we weren't regularly exposed to DNA viruses that have promoters in their genomes.
+
+02:04:30.300 --> 02:04:36.300
+We are just like anti-vaxxers who have come before him, who have tried to fear monger to the public about imaginary contaminations in vaccines.
+
+02:04:36.300 --> 02:04:37.300
+He's doing it again.
+
+02:04:37.300 --> 02:04:38.300
+And in a really bad way.
+
+02:04:38.300 --> 02:04:44.300
+So in summary, the experiments that claim to show DNA contamination in COVID vaccines are very sloppily done.
+
+02:04:44.300 --> 02:04:47.300
+Because they're so poorly done, they're not even considered valid by regulatory standards.
+
+02:04:47.300 --> 02:04:49.300
+And we actually analyze the invalid data.
+
+02:04:49.300 --> 02:04:53.300
+We see that it's actually consistent with the levels being below regulatory limits.
+
+02:04:53.300 --> 02:04:56.300
+And on top of all that, what Kev has done might be illegal.
+
+02:04:56.300 --> 02:05:03.300
+According to federal law, COVID vaccines are the property of the federal government and can only be used, administered, or handled by approved bodies.
+
+02:05:03.300 --> 02:05:07.300
+I don't think that Kev's lab is an approved body for handling federal property.
+
+02:05:07.300 --> 02:05:09.300
+So, yeah, it might be illegal.
+
+02:05:09.300 --> 02:05:10.300
+More on that later, maybe.
+
+02:05:10.300 --> 02:05:11.300
+Anyway, that's going to do it for this week's video.
+
+02:05:11.300 --> 02:05:12.300
+That was pretty fun for me.
+
+02:05:12.300 --> 02:05:14.300
+And thank you so much for watching.
+
+02:05:14.300 --> 02:05:15.300
+I really do appreciate it.
+
+02:05:15.300 --> 02:05:19.300
+If you've enjoyed this video, then don't forget to like it and subscribe so that you can catch me next week, where I'll be debunking some more.
+
+02:05:20.300 --> 02:05:26.300
+So, don't forget, there's another one because, of course, that was the first preprint.
+
+02:05:26.300 --> 02:05:28.300
+And now this is the second preprint.
+
+02:05:28.300 --> 02:05:29.300
+And he did it again.
+
+02:05:29.300 --> 02:05:32.300
+Yes, he did it again.
+
+02:05:37.300 --> 02:05:40.300
+Support what the author was claiming in the slightest.
+
+02:05:40.300 --> 02:05:45.300
+Now, there's another preprint by the same author claiming the same thing, that there's DNA contamination.
+
+02:05:45.300 --> 02:05:47.300
+And now he's got a Carnegie Mellon sweater.
+
+02:05:47.300 --> 02:05:50.300
+Are far above the allowable FDA limits.
+
+02:05:50.300 --> 02:05:53.300
+And it's just as wrong and sloppy as the first one.
+
+02:05:53.300 --> 02:05:56.300
+But a lot of you have been asking me to debunk it, so here we go.
+
+02:05:56.300 --> 02:06:01.300
+I will tell you exactly how this paper is so sloppy that it is practically useless, again.
+
+02:06:01.300 --> 02:06:07.300
+And I will tell you everything you need to know to understand why this story is wrong to begin with.
+
+02:06:07.300 --> 02:06:09.300
+Just for those who don't know, this is a preprint.
+
+02:06:09.300 --> 02:06:11.300
+That means it has not been peer reviewed.
+
+02:06:11.300 --> 02:06:12.300
+But that's not why it's wrong.
+
+02:06:12.300 --> 02:06:14.300
+So, let's get into what makes it wrong.
+
+02:06:14.300 --> 02:06:19.300
+Before we get to the data, I'm just going to jump the gun a little bit and tell you why this whole idea was wrong to begin with.
+
+02:06:19.300 --> 02:06:26.300
+Every single biologic or drug that uses biological materials in the manufacturing process needs to go through certain quality control standards in order to get FDA approval.
+
+02:06:26.300 --> 02:06:30.300
+And each subsequent batch that goes out to the public also needs to pass those same quality control standards.
+
+02:06:30.300 --> 02:06:33.300
+This is a whole regulatory area called good manufacturing practice, and it is global.
+
+02:06:33.300 --> 02:06:39.300
+Flashing across your screen right now are just some of the tests that each and every COVID mRNA vaccine batch had to pass before it went out to the public.
+
+02:06:39.300 --> 02:06:44.300
+This includes quantifying residual DNA left by the plasmid. That is used in the manufacturing process to make the mRNA.
+
+02:06:44.300 --> 02:06:46.300
+These tests are done both by the manufacturers and also by...
+
+02:06:46.300 --> 02:06:48.300
+That's funny. That's what you call contract research.
+
+02:06:48.300 --> 02:06:49.300
+That's funny.
+
+02:06:49.300 --> 02:06:51.300
+The results are then reviewed by regulatory bodies before the loss.
+
+02:06:51.300 --> 02:06:58.300
+The title of that one was proposed testing for prasmin DNA prior to release.
+
+02:06:58.300 --> 02:07:02.300
+It says proposed testing.
+
+02:07:02.300 --> 02:07:05.300
+So he's kind of misrepresenting this.
+
+02:07:05.300 --> 02:07:09.300
+Flying residual DNA left by the plasmid. That is used in the manufacturing process to make the mRNA.
+
+02:07:09.300 --> 02:07:13.300
+These tests are done both by the manufacturers and also by third parties, which are called contract research organizations.
+
+02:07:13.300 --> 02:07:16.300
+The results are then reviewed by regulatory bodies before the loss can go out to the public.
+
+02:07:16.300 --> 02:07:17.300
+Each test is qualified...
+
+02:07:17.300 --> 02:07:18.300
+There's an Australian...
+
+02:07:18.300 --> 02:07:19.300
+Is qualified in...
+
+02:07:19.300 --> 02:07:21.300
+Not sure that happened in America.
+
+02:07:21.300 --> 02:07:30.300
+The assay itself and the reagents take significant effort to demonstrate that they are actually measuring what the test is designed to measure and that it can demonstrate purity or contamination or lack thereof in whatever the context may be.
+
+02:07:30.300 --> 02:07:32.300
+The point is there is a lot of work that goes into this.
+
+02:07:32.300 --> 02:07:34.300
+A lot of people do these tests and a lot of regulatory bodies all over the world.
+
+02:07:34.300 --> 02:07:35.300
+Look at the results.
+
+02:07:35.300 --> 02:07:40.300
+So if these results are going to be overturned, then you need something of equal rigor to overturn them.
+
+02:07:40.300 --> 02:07:43.300
+And these preprints are nowhere near that level of rigor.
+
+02:07:43.300 --> 02:07:54.300
+It does really seem like the only thing he has to stand on is the idea that the SV40 promoter was removed from the EMA document that was submitted to Canada and to the European Union.
+
+02:07:54.300 --> 02:08:01.300
+And this allows them to title that video intent to deceive.
+
+02:08:02.300 --> 02:08:06.300
+Other than that, it doesn't seem as though there's a tremendous amount of evidence.
+
+02:08:06.300 --> 02:08:18.300
+They said that they were trying to correlate the amount of DNA in different lots to the outcomes, the VAERS outcomes.
+
+02:08:18.300 --> 02:08:20.300
+But we didn't see any of that data.
+
+02:08:20.300 --> 02:08:22.300
+We didn't hear any about that data.
+
+02:08:22.300 --> 02:08:27.300
+We didn't see how they quantified the difference between different lots.
+
+02:08:28.300 --> 02:08:30.300
+And how those quantifications were done.
+
+02:08:30.300 --> 02:08:31.300
+We didn't see that at all.
+
+02:08:31.300 --> 02:08:36.300
+He just mentioned that it happened that Jessica Rose did it.
+
+02:08:36.300 --> 02:08:44.300
+But that's a whole nother ball game quantifying the contamination across lots is very different.
+
+02:08:44.300 --> 02:08:51.300
+Apparently they had like 25 vials or something like that, right?
+
+02:08:52.300 --> 02:08:55.300
+I'm not sure they've been qualified as being of the quality of like an undergraduate project, to be honest.
+
+02:08:55.300 --> 02:08:58.300
+Anyway, let's now look at the preprints and what they show or what they claim to show.
+
+02:08:58.300 --> 02:09:05.300
+In this new preprint, again, what they're looking at are what they claim to be COVID mRNA vaccine vials, and they are testing the liquid inside of them for residual DNA contamination.
+
+02:09:05.300 --> 02:09:11.300
+They're doing this by using QPCR, which is the gold standard by which DNA and other nucleic acids are quantified in this context.
+
+02:09:11.300 --> 02:09:13.300
+But like the first preprint, there are still significant issues.
+
+02:09:13.300 --> 02:09:17.300
+If you haven't watched my previous video on this topic, I highly recommend you go check that out because I explain it all in much more detail.
+
+02:09:17.300 --> 02:09:22.300
+But in their first preprint, their QPCR reaction failed efficiency, which off the bat means it is totally invalid.
+
+02:09:22.300 --> 02:09:27.300
+And by the way, anybody who publishes QPCR reaction or tries to publish one, that failed efficiency is doing incredibly sloppy work.
+
+02:09:27.300 --> 02:09:35.300
+I can't stress that enough. It's a huge mistake that an undergraduate shouldn't make, let alone someone trying to publish a preprint that is trying to take down all of the pharmaceutical and regulatory industries.
+
+02:09:35.300 --> 02:09:38.300
+In any case, in this new preprint, their efficiency was much better. Very glad they learned that part.
+
+02:09:38.300 --> 02:09:44.300
+However, just like the first preprint, they are miscalculating the amount of DNA in their sample, and as a result, hugely overestimating how much DNA is there.
+
+02:09:44.300 --> 02:09:48.300
+Funnily enough, this overestimation still puts them below the FDA regulatory limit.
+
+02:09:48.300 --> 02:09:52.300
+Yeah, they admit and fully show that their measurements were below FDA regulatory limit.
+
+02:09:52.300 --> 02:09:58.300
+Anyway, the correct way to calculate how much DNA you have in your samples in this context is to use QPCR to get a copy number.
+
+02:09:58.300 --> 02:10:04.300
+Once you have a copy number of how many copies of DNA you have in your sample, you can then use that copy number to calculate a gram amount.
+
+02:10:04.300 --> 02:10:09.300
+But remember, as I explained in my previous video, any trace amounts of DNA that are going to be in the COVID mRNA vaccines are going to be in fragments.
+
+02:10:09.300 --> 02:10:17.300
+That's because the plasmid used for manufacturing is digested by enzymes called DNases, and then most of those fragments are removed away from the mRNA before it's made into the drug product.
+
+02:10:17.300 --> 02:10:18.300
+Because you have the copy number...
+
+02:10:18.300 --> 02:10:26.300
+How are they removed away? See, that's the argument that Buck Halter and McCurnan are making is that you can't remove them.
+
+02:10:26.300 --> 02:10:35.300
+They're just fragmented, and then they stay there. He's just hand-waving here, which is very interesting.
+
+02:10:36.300 --> 02:10:45.300
+But what I'm trying to set up for you is the idea that this is already ready to go, like within days.
+
+02:10:45.300 --> 02:10:52.300
+And so there is something happening here besides a sudden finding of DNA.
+
+02:10:52.300 --> 02:10:56.300
+It's possible that this DNA is harmless.
+
+02:10:56.300 --> 02:11:00.300
+It's possible that this DNA is meaningless.
+
+02:11:00.300 --> 02:11:12.300
+It's possible that it's just another piece of the nasty puzzle that is transfection is not a product that we can make suitable for healthy humans.
+
+02:11:12.300 --> 02:11:17.300
+And this is just one of the many details of that story.
+
+02:11:18.300 --> 02:11:32.300
+That when we emphasize it as the detail, when we emphasize it as the camels, you know, the straw that breaks the camel's back, we are actually overemphasizing its real significance, I think.
+
+02:11:33.300 --> 02:11:46.300
+And giving the door an opening to people like this who can kind of pounce on it and exaggerate that to the point where all of the other legitimate concerns get lost in this.
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+It's 10.35. It's been two hours and ten minutes. I'm going to put this in the chat for you to watch if you want to.
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+02:11:57.300 --> 02:12:02.300
+I'm not going to watch any more of this guy because I've already watched one and you get the idea of what he was doing.
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+02:12:02.300 --> 02:12:07.300
+You get the idea of what he was trying to do.
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+And I just want to finish up with a little summary really quick as long as my voice is still working.
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+02:12:15.300 --> 02:12:20.300
+So thanks for watching that. This is a group of people that has been manipulating us.
+
+02:12:20.300 --> 02:12:35.300
+A couple of days ago, I watched a stream of somebody that I used to really enjoy named Huberman, who is a professor at Stanford, a neurobiologist, only to find out through my own loving wife that actually he's part of the intellectual dark web to and I was a dork for not knowing it.
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+So they misled us about the potential for pandemics to be in the laboratory and that was that noise.
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+02:12:47.300 --> 02:12:53.300
+That was on my microphone outside. It sounded like somebody jumped on it.
+
+02:12:53.300 --> 02:12:57.300
+And also the fact that we could stitch things together.
+
+02:12:57.300 --> 02:13:04.300
+But the illusion of consensus with regard to this, I hope you understand is very specific.
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+02:13:04.300 --> 02:13:15.300
+The illusion of consensus is that the worst case scenario now or in the future is a gain of function laboratory bio weapon release leak.
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+02:13:16.300 --> 02:13:17.300
+Accident.
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+And so it's not only the illusion of consensus isn't that gain of function is real.
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+The illusion of consensus is that gain of function is a potential source of a disaster.
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+And that inside of that potential source of disaster are people who actually want to create the potential for that disaster.
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+And there is a consensus across left and right.
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+02:13:46.300 --> 02:13:51.300
+High in government secret meetings everywhere that this is the truth.
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+02:13:52.300 --> 02:14:08.300
+And people like Kevin McCann and George Webb and Paul Cottrell were involved intimately in ceding this narrative in 2020 when it wasn't yet right to put it on television.
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+02:14:08.300 --> 02:14:26.300
+When it wasn't yet right to put it on the intellectual dark web, there were people way, way out in the fringes that were already driven, promoted and encouraged to talk about the worst case scenario of 1 billion dead because of the release of a bio weapon.
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+02:14:27.300 --> 02:14:39.300
+And that consensus was used as a seed to terrify people and to try and solve this mystery of where is the mystery virus.
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+02:14:40.300 --> 02:14:53.300
+And the people on television and the people in social media and these people creating this illusion of consensus about the faith wants you to believe that excess death is the mystery virus.
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+02:14:54.300 --> 02:15:03.300
+I mean a million 200,000 people so far have been killed in America by COVID means that all the excess deaths were due to COVID.
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+02:15:05.300 --> 02:15:14.300
+And the magic trick, the enchantment that they are pulling there is that they are not doing the math correctly because if you want to know who the mystery virus killed, you've got to take the excess deaths.
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+02:15:15.300 --> 02:15:21.300
+And then you've got to subtract the people that we didn't resuscitate in New York and elsewhere to prevent spread.
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+02:15:22.300 --> 02:15:26.300
+You've got to subtract all the people that we ventilated to prevent spread.
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+You've got to subtract all the people that we didn't give antibiotics to because antibiotics don't work on a viral pneumonia.
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+You've got to subtract all the people that we didn't give steroids at the right time to because steroids are inappropriate for COVID.
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+You've got to subtract all the people that got remdesivir, deteriorated and died from it.
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+You've got to subtract all the opioid deaths that were extra because they were also roped in as part of the excess deaths.
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+And you've got to subtract all the death certificate fraud that was driven by the PCR and driven by the financial incentives.
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+02:16:02.300 --> 02:16:04.300
+And when you do that, there's nothing left.
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+02:16:05.300 --> 02:16:09.300
+And that's why all the people that are preserving the faith don't do that math.
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+That's why all the people who are preserving the faith don't talk about the PCR fraud, the lateral flow fraud, the variants and all the other crap about the virus because then you have to do the math.
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+02:16:24.300 --> 02:16:31.300
+And if you do the math, you dispel this faith, the faith of a novel virus that millions died and were saved.
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+The gain of function is real and a virus will come again.
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+And that narrative is really, that's how they did it. That's what this faith is codified.
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+The UN codified the faith of a novel virus in a PCR test with financial incentive in the US was ready to act on this plan.
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+02:16:52.300 --> 02:16:56.300
+The only way that the molecular biology could be reels if they used an infectious clone.
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+02:16:57.300 --> 02:17:05.300
+And the goal is the total surrender of individual sovereignty and enforcement of a global fundamental inversion from basic human rights to basic granted permissions.
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+It's an illusion of consensus about this faith.
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+02:17:13.300 --> 02:17:25.300
+An illusion of consensus that was started in 2019 with the intellectual dark web, including Brett Weinstein, Eric Weinstein, Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, the whole nine yards.
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+And then it was ceded with Rand Paul and Tony Fauci lying and fighting and that was ceded by the narratives and ceded by the proximal origin paper and the big dispute about what language they used and how dismissive they were.
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+And then by the the Shenxi Lee science paper and then Omicron came out in South America and everybody thought it was a white hat and now we're here.
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+02:17:50.300 --> 02:17:55.300
+And for three years, all the people that have been promoted on social media have never questioned the faith.
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+02:17:56.300 --> 02:17:58.300
+Elon Musk has never questioned the faith.
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+Peter Teals never questioned the faith. The Weinstein brothers have never questioned the faith. Sam Harris loves the faith.
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+Tony Fauci is the priest. It's all people keeping us in this illusion of consensus of a mystery to solve.
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+02:18:14.300 --> 02:18:18.300
+And by accepting the mystery and trying to solve it, you accept its premises.
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+Once you've accepted its premises, then they can change your mind and give you an illusion of consensus that we don't know what's going on and then doctors behave stupid for three years.
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+And now we have the excess deaths that we can invert and call a disease.
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+That's what this was.
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+We were solved into salt. We were fooled into solving the mystery and this mystery is really just a conflated background signal they lied.
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+The faith is a lie. The diagnostics are lies. Their fidelity is a lie because it was an endemic background and it doesn't really matter what it was.
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+But I think the best explanation is probably an infectious clone because the protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine.
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+They might have transfected some people with something that wasn't an infectious clone, maybe just a spike protein or, you know, I don't know, anthrax or something like whatever you want to make up.
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+But there are definitely, this is not the solution. It was a conflated background signal because the faith is a lie.
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+That's kind of, that's kind of where I'm at. It's kind of how I feel.
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+And I think that the players don't address the PCR fraud and all of the fraud about the virus and about replication competence and about transfection in general as we talk today specifically, and they never talk about natural immunity.
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+I'm the only person, I don't want to toot my own horn, but I'm the only person who spent hours and hours talking about immunology.
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+I'm the only person who has at least three five hour immunology streams under his belt in the last three years. Nobody else. Nobody else. Nobody else. Not one of these people. None of them.
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+02:20:15.300 --> 02:20:24.300
+And that's because we are at a time point where they want your data. So they don't, there's no incentive to teach you this biology so that you understand its sacredness.
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+The incentive is for you to think that it's just not even worth protecting or not even worth respecting. We're on the verge of cracking it.
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+Ladies and gentlemen, intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb, transfection is not immunization.
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+Thank you guys for joining me.
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+It has been a pleasure to be here tonight. My voice held out pretty well. It feels pretty good. I guess I'm going to get a good night's sleep tonight.
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+I don't know. It's been 50 in a row. If I make it to the doctor and the doctor says I can't talk for a while, then it's just going to stop.
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+But the worst case scenario starting on November 2nd through November 5th, I will be off and back on November 6th.
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+Just so you know, there is going to be a break to this 50. We're not going to get to 400 just yet, but the streak is alive and I will see you tomorrow. Thanks guys.
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+Thank you so much for joining me.
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+I'm going to have you on soon, Albert. I promise I'm going to have you on soon. Things are really busy behind the scenes, so I'm having no guests right now. It's nothing to do with you. I just need to clear my schedule.
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+And we will all die.
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+It's the effect of sin in our lives, we can't escape it.
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+But I'm also
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+discouraged.
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+And there's a little bit of me that's angry.
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+I was driving to work the other day and I just screamed.
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+I missed my dad.
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+And in my opinion, he was murdered by the medical machine.
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+There was something unique about the SARS-CoV-2 outbreak, COVID-19, the crisis,
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+by which the hospitals, almost exclusively, were the venue of death.
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+That's a powerful thing for him to say.
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+When he came on my stream, he wasn't really totally there yet, I don't think.
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+When he came on our stream, he didn't want to really do that thought experiment
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+about whether the hospitals could have caused it all
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+and that the protocols could have caused it all.
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+Now, there is a little trap there.
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+And the trap is, is that the story of that particular man and his father
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+was the hospital in Texas preventing him from getting Ivermectin.
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+Now, why do I say that's a trap?
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+I'm not trying to be a shit.
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+I'm trying to point out that the one thing that never seems to catch on,
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+that never seems to catch fire, that nobody's ever making a documentary about,
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+is remdesivir.
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+Don't we have a lot more documented cases of remdesivir use?
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+And don't we know that remdesivir helped no one?
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+I'm still really confused about this, because in my understanding of everything
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+that I've been able to read, remdesivir, in all the trials that it was used,
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+for Ebola, for whatever else that it was used for, it never worked.
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+I've always hurt people.
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+And so part of what I thought was so annoying about this Brian artist guy,
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+when he came out and said that remdesivir, and there's venom in the shots or something like that,
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+he had a great message about remdesivir that was essentially destroyed
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+because he also said that there was venom and snake venom and something,
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+and stupidters his show, and then everything else that he said about remdesivir went down the toilet with him.
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+And since then, nobody's been able to accurately articulate in the dissident movement
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+how bad remdesivir was in Ebola trials and how ridiculous it would be to use it
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+and how many people behind the scenes of this apparatus seem to be really keen
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+on sneaking it in as early as possible before there was anything else effective.
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+This is extremely curious now that, again, when we have all of this possible cordwood to stack up,
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+literally anybody that had remdesivir could in theory get in on this,
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+because all of them are likely going to have a medical chart that says,
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+well, we gave him remdesivir and then his kidneys filled up and he got pneumonia and then he died,
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+or those things happened and he escaped anyway, but anybody that was given remdesivir,
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+in my humble opinion, might should be encouraged to sue the government for being given a poison,
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+whereas not allowing someone to have Ivermectin in the hospital is a little grayer of an area.
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+But forcing people, forcing doctors, encouraging doctors, requiring doctors to use a protocol that included a poison
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+that you could identify as a poison by going into the literature and reading is highly dubious,
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+and the fact that nobody's making a show of this yet is also highly dubious,
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+where we have all these people suing about Ivermectin not being allowed in hospitals,
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+and it's like all these anecdotal cases of I wanted Ivermectin for my mom, but she couldn't get it.
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+What about all the people who didn't want their kid, their loved one on remdesivir or on a ventilator?
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+And don't we have the added bonus of the fact that the government told them to do it,
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+that makes it even more like reason to pursue the justice?
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+I get that, you know, doctors not, people not being able to get the medicine that they want,
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+but I'm just telling you, there's a trap here.
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+There's a trap here, there's a trap here, and there are obvious reasons why it's got to be a trap.
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+I don't say there's anybody bad here, nobody's bad, but what I'm saying is that the algorithms
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+and the people that control and use the algorithms to control us just need to elevate the wrong stories
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+and let those wrong stories catch on because we have so much empathy for everyone that has suffered,
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+and when these stories catch on then what ends up happening is the Scooby-Doo gets sustained
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+because this limited spectrum of debate that's not meant to include things like remdesivir or the opioid crisis
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+is carefully curated by things like this.
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+If this thing goes viral, it's great and it's awesome that Peter McCullough is saying that it's crazy
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+how everybody died in a hospital, take it one step further and say everybody died from a hospital protocol
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+because if you went into the hospital but your doctor could still do whatever they wanted,
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+it probably wouldn't have mattered, but that's not what happened, they went into a hospital
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+and then they had a very strict sheet because it's a novel virus for which we have no idea what to do
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+except for this protocol.
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+That we don't need to be injected into these darkest issuance.
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+I would like to.
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+You would remember or recall a Dr. Birkholt who replicated some of the work of Dr. Kevin McKernan
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+using his primers and actually also adding a little nanopore sequencing to show that these DNA fragments were indeed in the Pfizer shot
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+and we stopped that video unfortunately after he was done lecturing and we didn't watch the question and answer
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+and I regret that now so I'm going to show you one bit of it right here.
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+It's only two minutes and it will shock you.
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+Whoops.
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+That we don't need to be injected into these darkest issuance.
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+I would like to do that and I will not get it unless I get a batch and find out that it's free of DNA and then I'll take it myself.
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+But I don't have any way of compelling that to happen.
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+So it was just basically a way to save money by doing it in such volume that way.
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+So first he said that if he could show that it had no DNA and he would take it.
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+So he disagrees with my main slide which is the transfection is not immunization.
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+So in the best case scenario, perfect RNA, perfect LNP, perfect quality control, that's all that's in there.
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+I still think that transfection is absolutely a ridiculous idea for medicine.
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+Never mind an immunization in a healthy animal.
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+Never mind in a healthy human.
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+Never mind in a person who wanted to live a long healthy life.
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+He says that if it doesn't have any DNA and he'd be fine to take it.
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+I need you to hear that because that is a very large cruise ship size disagreement between me and Dr. Burke Halter.
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+Or Burke, I think it's Buckhalt, Buckhalt, sorry, Burke Halter, I don't know why I said that.
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+Where's my play button?
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+You got to be careful I'm going to advance the slide here, here we go.
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+I think nobody thought about it.
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+I think it was reasonable to use the E. coli to blow up the plasma to make the stuff.
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+And then the pieces of the DNA are of a very uniform and small size.
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+That's evidence that they took efforts to try to chop it up.
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+And then they knew about it.
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+Yeah, they knew it.
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+And they took efforts to chop it up.
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+They just didn't get it all out.
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+But having said that, I guess that they just didn't think about the hazard for genome modification.
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+Because it's not all that expensive to add another process to get it out.
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+Well, that's what I'm saying.
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+I can't get inside their mind.
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+I don't rush too much, and that's what I'm saying.
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+We've heard testimony of these subsequent, you know, variant, subsequent boosters, et cetera, et cetera.
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+Or leading to maybe not scientific yet.
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+But at least collateral mileage that it apparently, these things are causing death and disability later on.
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+And also the aging process, which you heard about.
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+There's a lot of suspicious associations.
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+But that seems to me that before we can, in South Carolina,
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+give this new vaccine of whirl around here.
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+Seems to me that our people ought to be able to look at that, Mr. Chairman,
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+and see whether or not it's got this DNA.
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+And if it does, fine, tell everybody it's got the DNA and the problems associated there with.
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+Then you got informed consent.
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+Correct.
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+Okay.
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+But without that, we didn't have informed consent.
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+I'm not really happy about that, Mr. Chairman, and do what I can to try to help.
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+Knowing what I know.
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+Knowing what I know now about this, I would still have recommended it to my elderly parents.
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+Okay.
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+But I probably would not have given it to my daughters.
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+And I feel like my consent was not as informed as it should have been.
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+Well, there you go, ladies and gentlemen, that's in in a nutshell right there.
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+He would have given it to his parents, but maybe not to his daughters.
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+I'm sorry.
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+This is not an expert.
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+This is not a biologist.
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+This is a gene jockey.
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+It's somebody who knows how to bake on a laboratory bench.
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+But as far as understanding biology, as far as really understanding.
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+What he's talking about.
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+He doesn't understand what transfection is.
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+He doesn't understand what transfection challenges your body to do in the best case scenario.
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+Otherwise, he wouldn't recommend it to his parents or his daughters.
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+To anyone.
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+You must hear it.
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+You must see it.
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+And that's why he will be elevated if necessary.
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+I suspect that Kevin McCurnan would say very similar things.
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+We are not dealing with people who are on our team.
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+We are dealing with people who are posing as dissidents to control the spectrum of debate
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+and to participate in what appears to be a fairly, fairly dissident discussion within that spectrum.
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+They are performers.
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+On the subject of vaccines, it seems to be a great interest of yours.
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+I challenge you to make that debate me on it.
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+I'm going to tell you just what my position is.
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+My position is not any science.
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+My position is exactly aligned with the National Academy of Science and the Institute of Medicine.
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+People don't know my position because people call me an anti-vaxxer, but I'm not.
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+I'm pro-vaccine.
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+I had all my children vaccinated.
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+I believe that vaccines should be tested.
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+Safety tested.
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+People don't know.
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+You cannot sue a company that makes vaccines that injures you.
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+No matter how egregious the injury is, no matter how negligent that company was, no matter how toxic the ingredient.
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+Furthermore, they're completely insulated, so there's no incentive for them to make vaccines safe.
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+Furthermore, they're also exempt.
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+They're the only medicine that's exempt from safety testing.
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+So now, one of the 72 vaccines currently given to our children, mandated, has ever been tested against a placebo.
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+That means nobody knows what the risk profile is, and nobody can say with a scientific certainty,
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+that vaccine is averting more problems than it causes.
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+And I don't think that we ought to be mandating medical interventions for unwilling Americans unless we know
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+precisely that that vaccine is going to end up helping people rather than hurting them.
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+The Institute of Medicine is the ultimate arbiter of vaccine science, according to Congress and HHS.
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+And the Institute of Medicine has time and again in 1991, 1994, 2011, 2014, has scolded and rebuked
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+and screamed at CDC for not doing safety testing on any of these vaccines.
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+And we've seen vaccine schedule, I had three vaccines when I was a kid.
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+My children got 72.
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+It changed into 89, and if you were born prior to 89, you're a chance of having a chronic disease.
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+Rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, autism, food allergies, is 12%.
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+If you were born after 89, it is 54%, according to HHS.
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+And nobody's explaining, where is it all coming from?
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+Where's all the autism coming from?
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+If it's not vaccine, I is in my generation, 1 in 2,500 kids in autism, and this generation, 1 in 34.
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+CDC is supposed to tell us where the diseases are coming from.
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+I is in my generation, 1 in 4, 100 kids at food allergies, peanut allergies, and 1 in 10 today.
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+And guess what?
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+Look at the vaccine inserts.
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+All the 400 diseases that are now epidemic in our children.
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+All right.
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+So, we're...
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+Okay, so you've heard that before probably, but I like to play it because some people like to play it and say that that means that he's four vaccines and he's not really against it.
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+Yadda, yadda, yadda.
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+Other people will say that while he realizes that when they're tested, they won't be...
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+They won't test...
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+Or they won't pass the testing, and so there are no safe vaccines.
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+Now, as we move forward, this bait on TV is going to get worse and worse and worse.
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+They're putting out bait now with regard to Israel and Palestine.
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+Even I have been somewhat tempted to tweet about things that I shouldn't tweet about.
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+Because it's...
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+It's loss of focus.
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+And with regard to what we're doing here, I want to stay focused on the biology as much as I possibly can.
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+And a person that went on my radar very early in Canada was Byron Brittle.
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+He was the guy who originally released the Japanese description of the bio-distribution data that they had in their pharmacovigilance study.
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+And he was the one who first let loose the idea that the lipid nanoparticle wasn't contained in the arm,
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+but went around the body and went all different places.
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+And of course, we know that Byron Brittle didn't have to lose his career and they didn't have to burn him.
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+Because Peter Kullis said it in 2022 while he was accepting or doing his Canadian little Nobel Prize tour.
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+The Gardener Awards.
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+And he admitted very specifically that he had burned five postdocs on that project and the fifth postdoc threatened to quit if he didn't let her switch her project.
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+But Byron Brittle lost his career and faced a lot of public scrutiny in 2020 or early 2021 for revealing the Japanese document.
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+And it turns out, of course, he was 100% right, the document wasn't a lie.
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+And they knew that already from a long time ago, the lipid nanoparticle people knew it.
+
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+Peter Kullis knew it, but he just assumed it was fine because the Pfizer said it was 95% effective, so he just had a scotch.
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+So I just want to watch a little bit of this video. It's like an hour and a half long, so we're not going to watch the whole thing.
+
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+But I want to watch his introduction. I want to watch, listen to him tell his story and his position on vaccines and what he does.
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+And I want you to hear the very similar parallels to what Bobby just said and often says about his position on vaccines.
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+And then we'll wrap it up.
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+Hello, I am Sherry Strong. I'm the Alberta Provincial Director for Children's Health Defense Canada.
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+And for those of you who've been following us for the last three years, this is I haven't done an interview for quite a long time for various reasons.
+
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+And I'm back into it with a very exciting guest, Dr. Byron Brittle.
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+And he is an associate professor of virology, viral immunology in the Department of Pathology in the University of Guelph and through the Ontario College as well.
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+And he, if you, if you search for him, you're going to find two things. You're going to find a fake page that is defamatory.
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+Don't, don't take it too seriously, but to go.
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+That's right.
+
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+Leave a comment at the end.
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+That's right.
+
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+Send them a message.
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+He actually had a page, believe it or not, that we think was made by, made by that Rasmussen chick.
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+37:51.000 --> 37:55.000
+And she made a, she made a page of Byron Brittle.
+
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+That was defamatory to him that had a header that had a pug.
+
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+And because it had a pug dog there, that was the one clue that we had that it might be her.
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+And she's also moved from Georgetown to somewhere in Canada.
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+At the start of this pandemic to take residency as a virologist up there at some vaccine thing.
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+I'm pretty sure it was her.
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+It's her name is Angela, Angela Rasmussen.
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+Yeah, she's a real winner.
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+So I would recommend that.
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+And also if you type in the words, if you look at the keywords for which he's known oncology, cancer, therapeutics in unit therapy.
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+Oncolytic, viral therapy, translational oncology and clinical studies.
+
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+So is there anything Byron that I've left out in that brief introduction that you think is relevant to our viewers?
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+Just, no, nothing that you've left out, just two things.
+
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+Points of clarification for your viewers.
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+So some people here that, that I work at the Ontario veterinary college, and this often comes up in court cases where I serve as an expert witness and opposing council.
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+Tries to make it seem like I'm just a veterinarian and only know about animal health and couldn't know anything about human health.
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+I actually love it if opposing council in court cases bring that up because it allows me to provide this explanation.
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+A, I'm not a veterinarian.
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+B, my research is primarily focused on human health.
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+So it's centered on that.
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+So I can tell you, I see in the chat that Albert has dropped in that after the Japanese document, that's when curse said he then called up Weinstein and Malone and did the dark horse podcast.
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+So that's really curious because I've had the feeling, I've had the feeling from the very beginning that Byron was somebody that needed controlling.
+
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+And I actually had the privilege, excuse me, I'm burping, drinking a big bottle of water.
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+I had the privilege of presenting to a group of people in Canada in which Byron Bridal was sitting.
+
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+And at the end of the talk, he actually made a comment that I thought was really, he gave me a compliment about my talk and then he said, you know, I'm really excited that you brought up this replication.
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+Replication and competent fraction because I'd never thought of it before, but I've made vaccines before.
+
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+And when you make an AV vaccine, you know, you set the requirements for the purity of the particles that are produced.
+
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+And we had real trouble reaching our desired levels of particle purity because there were so many replication in competent partial genomes packaged in these.
+
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+Identivirus particles. It's a real challenge for viral manufacture. It's a great point, Jonathan.
+
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+So that was just another, another sort of green check next to Byron Bridal on my, on my whiteboard because, you know, when you're asked to respond to certain things when you're when you're shown new ideas and you react in what is a genuinely
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+a genuine learning behavior. I don't really want the right way to say it is, but you can tell when people are genuinely thinking along with you or whether they're thinking against you or whether they're trying to obfuscate what idea you're trying to convey.
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+And in the two times that I've interacted with Byron, I've never gotten that feeling.
+
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+I've always gotten the feeling that he's listening, that he's humble, that he just assumes that, you know, probably somebody's got something to say. They probably have something he can learn.
+
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+He's a really good guy.
+
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+The reason why I'm at the Ontario Veterinary College is because it allows me to do much more advanced translational research than what I could do if I was associated with a medical school.
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+So I did my postdoctoral training in medical school. And in fact, so what a lot of people wouldn't know because this isn't shared anywhere is I actually had competing offers from two different universities to hire me originally as an assistant professor.
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+And one of them was the University of Ottawa where they wanted to embed me in their medical school because they need more immunology expertise.
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+But I specifically decided on the Ontario Veterinary College because this is the thing, this is the interesting thing, almost all biomedical research that we would say is human focused.
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+It deals with research with rodents, rodent models, mice, and rats.
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+So I often, jokingly refer to myself as an expert in terminology as well.
+
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+And so the whole point is I can do that research at a medical school and where I'm currently located at the Ontario Veterinary College.
+
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+So I can do all of that, you know, vermin based human focused research.
+
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+But more, and I can get access to human samples, right?
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+Because we don't usually do research directly with human beings, right?
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+But I can certainly get samples from hospitals just as if I were associated.
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+I, that was the one project that was really sad to lose.
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+I had started a project in Rotterdam where I was getting glioma patient neocortex.
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+So real human brain material out of a live human brain that I could record under a microscope.
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+And that was pretty crazy.
+
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+That was some pretty crazy stuff.
+
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+That was some fun times.
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+It was a medical school.
+
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+But this is the thing.
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+We have an animal cancer center and we have an animal hospital.
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+And so this presents a different type of patient, right?
+
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+Veterinary patients.
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+And these veterinary patients are what I would call...
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+Well, you know, vets are also really highly paid.
+
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+If you get to be a vet for a pharmaceutical company or something like that, I mean, you know, Bob's your uncle.
+
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+Gee whiz.
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+We sometimes call highly advanced translational models of disease.
+
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+They have spontaneous diseases exactly like we do, right?
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+44:19.000 --> 44:21.000
+They develop spontaneous cancers.
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+They get infected.
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+They, you know, get infectious diseases just like we do.
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+They share our genetic diversity and they even share our very specific environmental influences.
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+So that's very important to understand.
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+And so the idea being that if we do, when we do research in these advanced translational models,
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+we should have greater success translating that success into human clinical trials
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+and things of benefit to people than if we try and make that giant leap
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+that usually happens at medical schools going from rodents directly into people.
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+And then the second thing is you mentioned that website.
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+So I just want to point out a point of clarification.
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+Yeah, indeed, it's highly defamatory.
+
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+It was developed within 24 hours of me giving sort of an infamous radio interview.
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+And I, and my understanding is that it's illegal because it's actually a form of impersonation,
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+which is illegal.
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+The name was used and the people who run this site pretend to be me.
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+There's also a defamatory Twitter account that was done at the site made at the same time.
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+And that's called not Dr. Byron Bridal, but then has, does the Twitter or X handle has,
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+hashtag Byron Bridal.
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+So again, impersonation.
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+And I just want to point out there's a lot of stuff in there.
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+But if anybody ever wants, like that's the thing you listeners have to understand.
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+The people that have defamed me that way, the people accused me of providing misinformation
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+over the past couple of years, not one of them, not one single person, not one human being on this planet,
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+has ever engaged in a discussion with me and allowed me.
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+In fact, that entire website was designed after a nine, this is crazy, after a nine minute radio interview
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+where I was talking to a lay audience.
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+And yet these people are critiquing the words that I use there still to this day.
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+They're still critiquing that.
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+And out of that, I may be talking about seven minutes.
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+So they're taking seven minutes of me talking to a lay audience
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+and they're critiquing it like it's hardcore science.
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+It's absolutely ludicrous.
+
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+But the point being that I can rebut, and I have rebutted over time in different public areas,
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+every single comment, every single smear that is in that website.
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+And I would contend that if anybody wants to believe what's on the website or anything on the website
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+or anything that I've said, ask the people that are pushing that messaging
+
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+to have a public discussion with me, and it'll become blatantly obvious who the real expert is
+
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+and who actually understands what they're talking about.
+
+47:03.000 --> 47:05.000
+Well, they don't disclose who they are.
+
+47:05.000 --> 47:10.000
+So do you know who they are? Do you know if it's a pharma company, if it's government funded?
+
+47:10.000 --> 47:13.000
+I have no idea. Honestly, I have no idea.
+
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+That's something, if any of your listeners actually have IT expertise
+
+47:17.000 --> 47:22.000
+and are able to figure out who's behind any of this, that would be incredibly helpful
+
+47:22.000 --> 47:27.000
+because that website and the people who are behind this and the people behind the Twitter account.
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+47:27.000 --> 47:30.000
+So I have no way to contact, for example, Elon Musk.
+
+47:30.000 --> 47:37.000
+But this Twitter account, not Dr. Byron Bridal, if anybody has the ear of Elon Musk
+
+47:37.000 --> 47:42.000
+and could figure out what the source is, who's doing this, it'd be fabulous
+
+47:42.000 --> 47:47.000
+because the same people are attacking all of my colleagues around the world
+
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+who are also sharing hardcore scientific truths backed by the overall weight
+
+47:53.000 --> 47:55.000
+of the primary scientific data, right?
+
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+These people are attacking and defaming us and destroying our careers.
+
+47:59.000 --> 48:04.000
+For me, many other scientists and many physicians across the world.
+
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+Yeah.
+
+48:05.000 --> 48:09.000
+So let's talk a little bit about your story.
+
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+So you, what I've gathered is that you were a believer in vaccines.
+
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+And what point did you start to question the COVID vaccine?
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+Yeah. So just to clarify, yeah, I absolutely was a believer in vaccines
+
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+and I'm still a believer in vaccines. This is the thing.
+
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+I will defend to the bitter end the, the, the elegant concept of vaccination.
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+And what I mean by that is, you know, I actually contacted Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
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+and had a conversation with him because you know what?
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+48:50.000 --> 48:57.000
+When I was teaching voxenology in university, I actually used him as an example
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+of a classic anti-voxer. And when I came to realize all these concerns
+
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+and all these concerns developed over the past few years,
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+I, I wanted a conversation with him.
+
+49:07.000 --> 49:09.000
+First of all, I wanted to apologize to him.
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+So I did that first with him privately.
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+And then I publicly announced this apology multiple times.
+
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+And here I'm happy to do so yet again, because what people need to realize, you know,
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+he's been labeled sort of a lifelong anti-voxer.
+
+49:24.000 --> 49:29.000
+I'm a voxenologist. I've been labeled remarkably an anti-voxer somehow.
+
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+I still am developing novel vaccines.
+
+49:32.000 --> 49:37.000
+Like right as we speak, I have a project, research project ongoing right now,
+
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+where I'm developing a cancer vaccine right as we speak.
+
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+And I've continued to publish on, on vaccine technologies and ways to optimize
+
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+vaccines and vaccine safety all throughout these past few years.
+
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+But here's the thing.
+
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+So my philosophy is exactly like what I, what JFK, Jr.
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+shared with me in our private discussion, right?
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+Which is that we're both very much like he's very much pro vaccine.
+
+50:05.000 --> 50:09.000
+I've always been pro vaccine, but specifically we're pro safe and effective
+
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+vaccines. And now we've heard that mantra ad nauseam.
+
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+And this is the thing.
+
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+I was prior to 2020, I was living in kind of my own quiet world of research
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+where I was doing a lot of preclinical research.
+
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+So I do work research at the early stages of developing ideas,
+
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+literally brand new vaccination strategies, brand new vaccines.
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+And then if we have early success with that, I try and get people to get excited
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+and take that then into the translational research pipeline and ultimately
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+into human clinical trials.
+
+50:42.000 --> 50:48.000
+And indeed, one of my vaccine technologies did go into four human clinical trials.
+
+50:48.000 --> 50:52.000
+But when I become aware of because everything do with COVID-19 fell right
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+50:52.000 --> 50:54.000
+within my wheelhouse, right?
+
+50:54.000 --> 50:58.000
+We're talking about SARS Coronavirus 2, which is a causative agent of COVID-19
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+and the proposed miracle solution was the vaccines.
+
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+And so all the science fell in my wheelhouse.
+
+51:05.000 --> 51:08.000
+And I saw early on that we were going way off track with the science.
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+And I've got many, many, many concerns about these to the point where I even
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+hesitate to call them vaccines.
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+I don't fall under the traditional definition of a vaccine in the United States.
+
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+In Canada, technically speaking, they do fall under our definition of a vaccine,
+
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+but we have a specific definition of an ideal vaccine,
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+and there is far from being an ideal vaccine as one can possibly get
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+while still trying to keep them under that umbrella term.
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+And the reality is from a regulatory perspective,
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+Ike would contend very strongly that these are not,
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+you should not have been regulated as vaccines,
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+but rather as gene therapies.
+
+51:47.000 --> 51:51.000
+And in fact, they are much more similar to what we call prodrugs.
+
+51:51.000 --> 51:54.000
+And I could explain to your audience if you want what that means later,
+
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+but prodrugs, not vaccines.
+
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+And so at the end of the day,
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+I'm a person who follows the science.
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+Early on, I was so excited as a vaccinologist that vaccines were going to save the world
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+from this terrible disease.
+
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+Now, first of all, it's turned out to not be as terrible as disease
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+as we originally thought.
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+Much less so, in fact, much less dangerous than we originally had labeled it.
+
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+But nevertheless, I was excited about the vaccines.
+
+52:24.000 --> 52:28.000
+And so I monitored the development of these early treatment strategies
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+where all kinds of physicians were repurposing drugs and using combination strategies,
+
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+things like Ivermectin and hydroxylchloroquine,
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+and all kinds of other supplements, right?
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+Vitamin D, and vitamin C, and zinc, et cetera.
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+And it was kind of like his battle.
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+It was kind of like his 50-50 battle.
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+There were papers coming out supporting it.
+
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+There were papers coming out that were contending that these things weren't helpful.
+
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+And I was okay with that because, again, I'm a vaccinologist,
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+and I thought this is great.
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+And I had received funding that was very difficult to obtain
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+from my provincial government and our federal government
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+to develop COVID-19 vaccines.
+
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+And I did make six different COVID-19 vaccines,
+
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+but I've abandoned that research because of the concerns that developed.
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+53:10.000 --> 53:12.000
+And this is the thing.
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+So when doing this, I started looking very critically at the papers
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+because we couldn't have approved the use of these shots without,
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+if there were an array of effective treatments available.
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+And so I started looking at the papers.
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+And when it came to the drugs of chloroquine,
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+and especially the hypermectin, I saw that trials were designed.
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+They had fatal, I would contend, fatal flaws in their design.
+
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+Okay, so this is surprisingly on narrative.
+
+53:49.000 --> 53:58.000
+Again, he calls, he calls, he's still a fan of vaccines.
+
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+He calls RFK Jr.
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+He has a conversation.
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+He's working on novel vaccines for cancer.
+
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+He's written papers about optimizing vaccines and vaccine safety.
+
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+They're both pro-vaccines.
+
+54:09.000 --> 54:11.000
+They just want safe and effective vaccines.
+
+54:11.000 --> 54:14.000
+Now, the real question is what if there are zero safe vaccines, right?
+
+54:14.000 --> 54:17.000
+That's the question we're asking all the time.
+
+54:17.000 --> 54:20.000
+And that's why we start with that slide in the beginning that says
+
+54:20.000 --> 54:21.000
+there are no safe vaccines.
+
+54:21.000 --> 54:24.000
+So these aren't vaccines, he says.
+
+54:24.000 --> 54:26.000
+They should have been regulated like gene therapies.
+
+54:26.000 --> 54:32.000
+So that kind of implies they're not vaccines because they're not safe.
+
+54:32.000 --> 54:36.000
+He's a vaccine fan.
+
+54:36.000 --> 54:40.000
+He has in no way shape or form considered the possibility
+
+54:40.000 --> 54:43.000
+that previous vaccines also haven't been tested.
+
+54:43.000 --> 54:47.000
+Also have been foisted on the population.
+
+54:47.000 --> 54:54.000
+Either too early or too often.
+
+54:54.000 --> 54:59.000
+And so I'm very, very curious by this.
+
+54:59.000 --> 55:03.000
+But staying with his.
+
+55:03.000 --> 55:07.000
+My gut feeling is that he's a totally ridiculously honest man.
+
+55:07.000 --> 55:08.000
+He just spits the truth.
+
+55:08.000 --> 55:11.000
+And that's why it sometimes comes out in the wrong order.
+
+55:11.000 --> 55:14.000
+It comes out like almost awkwardly.
+
+55:14.000 --> 55:15.000
+And here he says, you know,
+
+55:15.000 --> 55:19.000
+I got some of that good old fashioned grant money to develop
+
+55:19.000 --> 55:21.000
+COVID vaccines.
+
+55:21.000 --> 55:24.000
+And he developed six different ones.
+
+55:24.000 --> 55:28.000
+But he abandoned all that research now because of all the problems.
+
+55:28.000 --> 55:32.000
+But that's a pretty interesting admission.
+
+55:32.000 --> 55:36.000
+It gives him some street cred in terms of, you know, he was fully on board
+
+55:36.000 --> 55:42.000
+and now he, he, he, he, he's decided this is crazy.
+
+55:42.000 --> 55:48.000
+Which means even more likely that he needed to be controlled.
+
+55:48.000 --> 55:52.000
+He needed to be overshadowed.
+
+55:52.000 --> 55:57.000
+So instead of having Byron Bridal on every newscast in the United States
+
+55:57.000 --> 56:03.000
+and having him go completely viral because of what he was doing in Canada.
+
+56:03.000 --> 56:10.000
+We put Steve Kersch and Robert Malone on the, on the Brett Weinstein podcast.
+
+56:10.000 --> 56:17.000
+And then Peter Teal and Elon Musk and, and Mark Zuckerberg and,
+
+56:17.000 --> 56:23.000
+and his wife made that go viral instead of Byron Bridal.
+
+56:23.000 --> 56:28.000
+Problem solved.
+
+56:28.000 --> 56:31.000
+Look at the timeline.
+
+56:31.000 --> 56:35.000
+Look who went viral and who didn't.
+
+56:35.000 --> 56:42.000
+Who started a national and, and global tour, not Byron Bridal.
+
+56:42.000 --> 56:45.000
+No, no, no, not Byron.
+
+56:45.000 --> 56:54.000
+Robert Malone and Steve Kersch did.
+
+56:54.000 --> 56:58.000
+Such that it seemed like they were almost intentionally designed
+
+56:58.000 --> 57:04.000
+to show a lack of efficacy for Ivermectin.
+
+57:04.000 --> 57:07.000
+And this shocked me when I saw that.
+
+57:07.000 --> 57:11.000
+And so when I ruled out the studies that I, that had fatal flaws,
+
+57:11.000 --> 57:14.000
+what was left was a very strong support for these things.
+
+57:14.000 --> 57:17.000
+That was one of the early indicators to me, sort of yellow flag.
+
+57:17.000 --> 57:18.000
+You know, what's going on here?
+
+57:18.000 --> 57:20.000
+Why are these shots being pushed so hard?
+
+57:20.000 --> 57:25.000
+Because as much as I love vaccines, I recognize what the rules were around this
+
+57:25.000 --> 57:29.000
+and why we were fighting so hard against these treatments.
+
+57:29.000 --> 57:31.000
+I really believe we could have done much better.
+
+57:31.000 --> 57:35.000
+And a lot of lives could have been saved had we implemented them and not,
+
+57:35.000 --> 57:40.000
+and not stopped and encouraged preventing their implementation.
+
+57:40.000 --> 57:45.000
+And then one final comment, and I'm happy to go into any details in terms of
+
+57:45.000 --> 57:49.000
+what exactly my concerns are with the COVID-19 shots.
+
+57:49.000 --> 57:53.000
+But what I have done, Sherri, is I've now gone back because a lot of people have
+
+57:53.000 --> 57:54.000
+requested me to do so.
+
+57:54.000 --> 57:58.000
+And I've started looking at clinical trials with other shots.
+
+57:58.000 --> 58:02.000
+And I remember, you know, I know that people like RFK,
+
+58:02.000 --> 58:06.000
+the junior, for example, have expressed concerns about these.
+
+58:06.000 --> 58:08.000
+I never looked into it in any detail.
+
+58:08.000 --> 58:12.000
+And when I started looking in detail at some of these historical clinical studies
+
+58:12.000 --> 58:18.000
+for these shots, I was aghast at how many of them had poor designs,
+
+58:18.000 --> 58:26.000
+improper control groups implemented, and so on, such that I would contend
+
+58:26.000 --> 58:34.000
+that Big Pharma has sort of ruined how clinical vaccinology is practiced.
+
+58:34.000 --> 58:36.000
+And it really concerns me.
+
+58:36.000 --> 58:41.000
+So I'll defend the theoretical concept of ideal vaccine.
+
+58:41.000 --> 58:46.000
+And an ideal vaccine, by the way, our gold standard is to try and simulate
+
+58:46.000 --> 58:53.000
+and replicate a naturally acquired immunity against any kind of pathogen, right?
+
+58:53.000 --> 58:58.000
+And so if clinical studies are done properly,
+
+58:58.000 --> 59:04.000
+if the proper experimental designs and a long enough term assessment of the safety profile,
+
+59:04.000 --> 59:12.000
+and there's very transparent revealing of the data,
+
+59:12.000 --> 59:17.000
+and a sufficient number of analyses being conducted,
+
+59:17.000 --> 59:21.000
+and they all show that a particular vaccine is truly safe
+
+59:21.000 --> 59:27.000
+and truly effective such that the risk, there's never zero risk with any medical intervention.
+
+59:27.000 --> 59:35.000
+So such that at the end, I'm convinced that the benefits of that particular vaccine
+
+59:35.000 --> 59:39.000
+outweigh the potential risks associated with the disease-for-given population,
+
+59:39.000 --> 59:41.000
+then I'll support it, no problem.
+
+59:41.000 --> 59:43.000
+And it will continue to do so.
+
+59:43.000 --> 59:50.000
+But it's clinical, practice clinical vaccinology, it needs to be fixed.
+
+59:50.000 --> 59:54.000
+And what a lot of people don't understand, Sherry, even though people have accused me over the past...
+
+59:54.000 --> 01:00:02.000
+Does anyone know if he's always had this tick, this facial tick on the right side of his face?
+
+01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:03.000
+Just curious.
+
+01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:07.000
+A few years, as a vaccinologist of being an anti-vaxxer,
+
+01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:12.000
+my colleagues don't seem to have realized I stood up and expressed my concerns early on
+
+01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.000
+because I was trying to save the field of vaccinology.
+
+01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:21.000
+I saw that we were headed towards a debacle with these COVID-19 shots,
+
+01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:26.000
+and if that were the case, a lot of people in the public were going to lose trust
+
+01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:28.000
+in the process, right?
+
+01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:32.000
+The process, the regulators, and how these things are approved
+
+01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:36.000
+and the research that's done to evaluate safety and effectiveness.
+
+01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:41.000
+And I knew that this would drive vaccine hesitancy
+
+01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:45.000
+and not only against COVID-19 shots, but against any historical vaccines,
+
+01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.000
+and potentially any future ones as well.
+
+01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:50.000
+And lo and behold, what do we see happening throughout the world?
+
+01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:54.000
+We see massive concerns with ever-rising vaccine hesitancy.
+
+01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:56.000
+And you know what I say to that?
+
+01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:03.000
+I say anybody who has developed this vaccine hesitancy has had every right to do so
+
+01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:10.000
+because our regulators and public health officials have shown over the past few years
+
+01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:12.000
+that they cannot be trusted.
+
+01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:15.000
+And the onus is now on them to regain trust,
+
+01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:19.000
+and the only way I see that they can regain trust is by fixing how clinical
+
+01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.000
+vaccinology is practiced.
+
+01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:22.000
+Right.
+
+01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:27.000
+Well, in full transparency, I'm one of those people who has zero trust
+
+01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:30.000
+in the pharmaceutical industry as a whole.
+
+01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:36.000
+I am a proponent of my backgrounds in holistic nutrition.
+
+01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:41.000
+So I'm a believer that we were made by our creator beautifully
+
+01:01:41.000 --> 01:01:45.000
+to actually fight disease,
+
+01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:49.000
+which I've come to believe is mostly poisoning,
+
+01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:55.000
+environmental toxicity and poisoning of the human, you know, of us,
+
+01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:57.000
+I will just say.
+
+01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:01.000
+And so I'm interested in a quick comment with what you just said there.
+
+01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:03.000
+It's very important.
+
+01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:06.000
+So you've nailed a very important thing, right?
+
+01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:09.000
+You've demonstrated far more insight than the vast majority of our public
+
+01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:14.000
+health officials and health regulators in that I agree with you 100%.
+
+01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:18.000
+It always seems to me, I always feel silly saying this,
+
+01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:23.000
+but unbelievably in this day and age,
+
+01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:25.000
+this is actually a profound statement.
+
+01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:27.000
+And that is basically what you said, right?
+
+01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:29.000
+Which is that our immune systems do work.
+
+01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:30.000
+They work naturally.
+
+01:02:30.000 --> 01:02:34.000
+And they work without as historical patent law,
+
+01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:39.000
+which you kind of would often use the term hand of man intervention,
+
+01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:43.000
+right, can lead to modifications to something that can then make it
+
+01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:45.000
+worth conferring a patent.
+
+01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:49.000
+So I like to say that our immune system can't function without the
+
+01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:51.000
+hand of man manipulation.
+
+01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:54.000
+And we call it naturally acquired immunity.
+
+01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:58.000
+And for some reason, everybody threw that concept right out the window
+
+01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:01.000
+and that is something that I fought very heavily for.
+
+01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:03.000
+Because I experienced that.
+
+01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:06.000
+I don't know when because I didn't get particularly sick,
+
+01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:09.000
+but I got tested and I had evidence of very robust,
+
+01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:11.000
+broad-based, naturally acquired immunity.
+
+01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:14.000
+And so I went to my, you know, I wasn't allowed to go to my
+
+01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:16.000
+university because I didn't get the shots.
+
+01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:18.000
+And I was aghast.
+
+01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:22.000
+I'm like, you do understand that the intent behind a vaccine is to
+
+01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:26.000
+induce an immune response where we attempt, we try to simulate a
+
+01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:28.000
+naturally acquired immune response.
+
+01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:29.000
+That's the gold standard.
+
+01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:32.000
+And we virtually never reach that gold standard.
+
+01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:34.000
+So I've got that gold standard.
+
+01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:38.000
+And you do realize, right, I tried saying to these administrators at
+
+01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:43.000
+my university, when you get, like you have a piece of paper showing
+
+01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:46.000
+somebody certified, two needles going into your shoulder.
+
+01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:51.000
+But we know there's such a thing as low responders and non-responders.
+
+01:03:51.000 --> 01:03:53.000
+So somebody could be carrying around that certificate,
+
+01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:55.000
+that piece of paper, right?
+
+01:03:55.000 --> 01:03:57.000
+And for all we know, they could be a non-responder.
+
+01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:01.000
+So they haven't mounted an immune response whatsoever against SARS
+
+01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:02.000
+coronavirus, too.
+
+01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:05.000
+But you or I could be holding up a piece of paper showing are
+
+01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:08.000
+naturally acquired immunity, for example.
+
+01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:11.000
+But they were deemed safe and somebody like myself was not.
+
+01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:12.000
+It's phenomenal.
+
+01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:14.000
+So you've nailed it.
+
+01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:18.000
+So I just want to point out that the faith doesn't seem to really
+
+01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:19.000
+be in danger here.
+
+01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:23.000
+There is definitely SARS-CoV-2, the virus, and COVID-19,
+
+01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:28.000
+the disease, and people needed to be safe from it.
+
+01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:30.000
+And people died from it.
+
+01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:35.000
+And he doesn't seem to be at all aware of the protocol changes
+
+01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:38.000
+that were made, especially in the United States, that were,
+
+01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:41.000
+that allowed the numbers to be conflated.
+
+01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:46.000
+So he also hasn't touched the PCR yet.
+
+01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:52.000
+And so again, the faith is not necessarily in danger here.
+
+01:04:52.000 --> 01:05:00.000
+But if I can cut by some slack, there's no way in hell he was ever
+
+01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:06.000
+going to be where we are now, given where he was in 2020 and how
+
+01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:10.000
+he was treated since then.
+
+01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:14.000
+He's probably faced more pressure than practically anyone else,
+
+01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:20.000
+except for maybe Peter McCullough, Pierre Corey, maybe few people
+
+01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:24.000
+had their head that high that early.
+
+01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:28.000
+You know, Knutwitskowski did, but he disappeared.
+
+01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:31.000
+Wolfgang Wodock spoke out early.
+
+01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:33.000
+He disappeared.
+
+01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:37.000
+Some people got hammered and, and by room got hammered.
+
+01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:41.000
+So he pretty much just had to find a handhold on the ship and hold
+
+01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:43.000
+on for dear life where he was going overboard.
+
+01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:47.000
+So the idea that he would already be up in the crow's nest going,
+
+01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:49.000
+no, no, Lando, you know, whatever.
+
+01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:50.000
+I mean, come on.
+
+01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:51.000
+That's not possible.
+
+01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:55.000
+So I don't, I'm not critiquing him at all, but he hasn't gotten to the
+
+01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:59.000
+stage where he's been able to see, he's in Canada though.
+
+01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:03.000
+So, you know, Denny's up there.
+
+01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:04.000
+You know, there's hope.
+
+01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:08.000
+I mean, I think he's obviously a guy who could get there because he's,
+
+01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:13.000
+he's still on the awakening path is his reality is definitely shaken.
+
+01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:16.000
+And the other thing is I totally agree.
+
+01:06:16.000 --> 01:06:19.000
+Nutrition is very important for the immune system.
+
+01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:22.000
+And I won't go into details, but you know, classic examples,
+
+01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:26.000
+vitamin D, which remarkably was declared as fake science by our formal
+
+01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:28.000
+Federal Minister of Health, Patty Hadd.
+
+01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:32.000
+But it is easy to declare vitamin D a fake science because of the way
+
+01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:35.000
+that vitamin D metabolism works in your body.
+
+01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:39.000
+You can't just take extra vitamin D and it all goes in and everything is fine.
+
+01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:40.000
+You know, like you're missing some oil.
+
+01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:44.000
+So you just add some to your car, put the dipstick back in and check to make
+
+01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:46.000
+sure it's good and now you're good.
+
+01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:49.000
+That's not how vitamin D works in your body.
+
+01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:54.000
+Even though it is portrayed that way because you can buy vitamin D in a bottle.
+
+01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:59.000
+And now I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I can tell you all the
+
+01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:02.000
+pharmacokinetics of vitamin D off of my cuff here.
+
+01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:08.000
+But I will tell you that it isn't as simple as you're low on vitamin D.
+
+01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:09.000
+You should take some more.
+
+01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:12.000
+And here's the pill.
+
+01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:17.000
+It is a very complex hormone, basically.
+
+01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:27.000
+And the natural way that you acquire and modulate DNA or DNA vitamin D is
+
+01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:32.000
+it's important that that system be properly engaged in any way that you try
+
+01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:40.000
+to bypass that system or to augment it with supplementation does not necessarily
+
+01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:44.000
+have the guaranteed outcome of just elevation of activated vitamin D.
+
+01:07:44.000 --> 01:07:46.000
+That's what you should know.
+
+01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:48.000
+I hope I've said that well enough.
+
+01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:50.000
+Drew, that is ludicrous.
+
+01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:53.000
+I can tell you, so I'm doing research in this area right now Sherry.
+
+01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:58.000
+And I can tell you the average Canadian is well below the ideal circulating
+
+01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:00.000
+concentrations of vitamin D.
+
+01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:06.000
+At vitamin D very quickly, it's such a critical cog in how the immune system
+
+01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:07.000
+works.
+
+01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:11.000
+I like to use the analogy of a racing car.
+
+01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:12.000
+So our body.
+
+01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:15.000
+T cells, T cells basically don't work without vitamin D.
+
+01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:17.000
+I mean, you could just say that.
+
+01:08:17.000 --> 01:08:19.000
+It's like a racing car.
+
+01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:22.000
+The immune system is like the engine.
+
+01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:25.000
+And if you don't have vitamin D, it's like you have a.
+
+01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:29.000
+I wonder if you've watched that rumble with false pandemics with Dr.
+
+01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:33.000
+Meryl Nast and Dr. Wolfgang Lodock because I've watched it.
+
+01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:35.000
+And I'm.
+
+01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:40.000
+I would go so far as to say I should almost do a study hall now that you've
+
+01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:46.000
+dropped it in there because because it is a very, very obvious video when you
+
+01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:49.000
+watch it with with the right eyes.
+
+01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:50.000
+What's going on?
+
+01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:52.000
+Let me just put it in my list.
+
+01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:57.000
+I have a running list here of of for study hall candidates.
+
+01:08:57.000 --> 01:08:59.000
+I'll just add it in as long as you dropped it in.
+
+01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:03.000
+I'm going to add it in right now.
+
+01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:07.000
+And I will hit save and then I will get back to this.
+
+01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:08.000
+Sorry.
+
+01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:12.000
+A cylinder misfiring in that engine, right?
+
+01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:15.000
+So you don't need to be a genius to know if you take that car to the starting
+
+01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:21.000
+line of a race and a cylinder is misfiring, it is not going to be performing
+
+01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:22.000
+optimally.
+
+01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:25.000
+And so I agree, not only vitamin D, but all the other critical nutritional
+
+01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:27.000
+components that our immune system relies upon.
+
+01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:31.000
+If we are at all deficient in those, our immune system is not functionally
+
+01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:32.000
+optimally.
+
+01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:36.000
+And if we focused in this country on optimizing the concentration of all
+
+01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:39.000
+these important metabolites that our immune system.
+
+01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:45.000
+No one, no one, and I know that I've not mentioned this enough.
+
+01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:46.000
+But no one.
+
+01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:47.000
+I mean, no one.
+
+01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:48.000
+And he should be saying it.
+
+01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:50.000
+He works at a veterinary college.
+
+01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:55.000
+But I know for a fact that I've had several different veterinarians,
+
+01:09:55.000 --> 01:10:01.000
+several different ranchers, several different people insist that
+
+01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:07.000
+giggle and biological needs to regularly say the word selenium.
+
+01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:12.000
+Because livestock are supplemented with selenium because they know if they
+
+01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:13.000
+don't, they'll get sick.
+
+01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:14.000
+They'll get infections.
+
+01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:18.000
+Their immune system won't be worth garbage.
+
+01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:23.000
+And selenium is these trade, one of these trace minerals that's getting
+
+01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:28.000
+harder to harder to find in your vegetable aisle.
+
+01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:30.000
+Selenium.
+
+01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:38.000
+To all of my viewers that have ever sent me a selenium link.
+
+01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:44.000
+Including Eddie in, in, in Canada and many others.
+
+01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:45.000
+Thank you for doing it.
+
+01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:46.000
+I'm sorry.
+
+01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:47.000
+I haven't mentioned it more.
+
+01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:49.000
+Vitamin D is really important.
+
+01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:52.000
+I think a lot of these trace minerals, especially selenium and a couple
+
+01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:57.000
+others, are also absolutely crucial.
+
+01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:02.000
+But then you can't just tell people, you know, go ahead and eat, eat
+
+01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:06.000
+Wendy's and Burger King and box cereal in the morning and then just
+
+01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:10.000
+supplement your selenium and vitamin D and you'll be fine.
+
+01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:14.000
+And I really think that that's the temptation here.
+
+01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:15.000
+Certainly in America.
+
+01:11:15.000 --> 01:11:19.000
+And I know he's not really saying that, but that's the message that
+
+01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:20.000
+ends up coming out.
+
+01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:24.000
+And the first and foremost, the message should be you eat like
+
+01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:25.000
+garbage and you don't exercise.
+
+01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:28.000
+You got two big problems you need to fix.
+
+01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:34.000
+And how you can monitor whether or not your change in diet and
+
+01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:38.000
+exercise is having a legitimate effect on you as to maybe look to
+
+01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:44.000
+see if you're getting enough selenium and vitamin D.
+
+01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:45.000
+But we don't talk like that.
+
+01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:46.000
+We don't think like that.
+
+01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:51.000
+We don't coach people like that.
+
+01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:54.000
+We just tell them to buy that bottle and that bottle and take two of
+
+01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:57.000
+those and one of those every day and you'll be fine.
+
+01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.000
+That's the how to function properly.
+
+01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:02.000
+We would generally be a much healthier population.
+
+01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:04.000
+Our health care costs would go down.
+
+01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:06.000
+We would suffer less from infectious diseases.
+
+01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:09.000
+There'd be fewer cancers and fewer chronic diseases.
+
+01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:11.000
+So I agree with you a hundred percent.
+
+01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:16.000
+Well, and when I work with clients, the first thing I do is not
+
+01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:17.000
+work on nutrition.
+
+01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:20.000
+I work on them to stop poisoning themselves.
+
+01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:22.000
+So, you know, it's optimal nutrition.
+
+01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:25.000
+It's just part of how we were actually designed or evolved
+
+01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:27.000
+whatever your belief system is.
+
+01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:30.000
+But part of that is we have to stop poisoning ourselves.
+
+01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:35.000
+So I want to actually kind of transition a bit to
+
+01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:40.000
+translational oncology, cancer, your study in cancer.
+
+01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:43.000
+I just want to briefly tell you a story.
+
+01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:45.000
+When COVID hit.
+
+01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:50.000
+In May, 2020, a friend reached out to me and she said,
+
+01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:54.000
+my sister-in-law is a doctor research scientist and on the
+
+01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:56.000
+board of one of these pharma companies.
+
+01:12:56.000 --> 01:13:00.000
+Producing what will be a vaccine that she's saying,
+
+01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:03.000
+we're all going to have to take to return to normal life.
+
+01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:06.000
+And she said she wouldn't be taking it.
+
+01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:10.000
+So I checked in a year later in May, 2021.
+
+01:13:10.000 --> 01:13:14.000
+And she said she's waiting to find out whether she's going to be
+
+01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:18.000
+fired because she knows that none of them went through proper
+
+01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:23.000
+phase three trials and she knows as a scientist and doctor that if
+
+01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:26.000
+she takes any one of them, the shots that are out in the market,
+
+01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:29.000
+it will bring back her cancer and kill her.
+
+01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:34.000
+So we, and when I started to share that, I was vilified, you know,
+
+01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:37.000
+just said that's, you know, BS, all that kind of stuff.
+
+01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:39.000
+But we're now seeing, you know,
+
+01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:41.000
+being anecdotal, anecdotal.
+
+01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:42.000
+I imagine.
+
+01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:45.000
+So my anecdotal stuff going on.
+
+01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:52.000
+My wife's sister, Femka, was in complete remission from ovarian
+
+01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:58.000
+cancer at about 55 years old in the start of the pandemic.
+
+01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:03.000
+And in 2020, she was vaccinated once and then right at the start
+
+01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:06.000
+of 2021, she was vaccinated again.
+
+01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:12.000
+And by the end of 2021, I believe she's had, she had three shots or
+
+01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:16.000
+four and then was dead.
+
+01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:20.000
+Now I could have the timeline slightly wrong, but I am absolutely
+
+01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:21.000
+sure she had four shots.
+
+01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:24.000
+And on the fourth one, I came back with a vengeance.
+
+01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:26.000
+She was gone.
+
+01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:30.000
+I also know for sure that I had a friend who was forced to take it
+
+01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:37.000
+on the set of Hollywood Star Trek and got advanced brain
+
+01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:41.000
+cancer probably from this stupid
+
+01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:44.000
+transfection that she was forced to take to do what she loved to
+
+01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.000
+do.
+
+01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:50.000
+I know that my mother-in-law was forced to take the vaccine just
+
+01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:54.000
+to see her husband who was forced to take the vaccine to be in
+
+01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:56.000
+the hospital.
+
+01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:59.000
+And then he died of a urinary tract infection.
+
+01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:04.000
+Because there weren't enough people in the hospital to care for him.
+
+01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:06.000
+And his wife was not able to go in.
+
+01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:09.000
+My mother-in-law was not able to go in there.
+
+01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:12.000
+I guess he's my stepfather-in-law.
+
+01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:16.000
+The case died in the hospital too because people of the pandemic
+
+01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:22.000
+were behaving like people of the pandemic.
+
+01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:25.000
+I don't often share these things because, you know, everybody
+
+01:15:25.000 --> 01:15:28.000
+lost people during the pandemic.
+
+01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:35.000
+But basically, my wife lost three because she knew my friend Annie
+
+01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:38.000
+too.
+
+01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:42.000
+I mean, these are all just people that did what they were told,
+
+01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.000
+did what they had to do.
+
+01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:48.000
+In the Netherlands, people are just, they just do it.
+
+01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:54.000
+They didn't call up and ask, you know, Jay, what should we do?
+
+01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:58.000
+Because the narrative on television, because the illusion of consensus
+
+01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:03.000
+on television, other countries, was even worse than here.
+
+01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:08.000
+In America, they knew they had to break us in half
+
+01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.000
+and get us to fight about this.
+
+01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:13.000
+Because that's all that works to govern America.
+
+01:16:13.000 --> 01:16:16.000
+In the Netherlands, they didn't break anybody up.
+
+01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.000
+There was no need to break things up.
+
+01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:21.000
+They've got 15 different parties over there and they got a nice little
+
+01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:27.000
+consensus going and almost nobody went against it.
+
+01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:34.000
+That happened in Norway too.
+
+01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:37.000
+Most of the neuroscientists that I know in Norway just went along with
+
+01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:41.000
+it and think that Jay is a nutcase now.
+
+01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:47.000
+Colleagues of mine for years, who used to respect me.
+
+01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:52.000
+We are talking about a full global inversion of the way that people think
+
+01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:55.000
+about the sovereignty they have over their bodies.
+
+01:16:55.000 --> 01:17:00.000
+A full global inversion of the way that people think about immunology.
+
+01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:06.000
+Even if they never understood it in the first place, they're sure they understand it now.
+
+01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:16.000
+And their understanding is based on whole cloth mythology.
+
+01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:20.000
+I'm going to cut them off here because I don't know really where the best place to end is.
+
+01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:22.000
+I don't know how many more stories they're going to tell.
+
+01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:27.000
+They're going to go into the cancer, into the SV40 and all this other stuff.
+
+01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:30.000
+I don't really think we need to do that right now.
+
+01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:32.000
+I'll watch it again on my own.
+
+01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:35.000
+And if it turns out to be something that I think you guys need to see,
+
+01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:40.000
+then I'll bring it back up.
+
+01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:45.000
+So that was Byron Bridal, one of the heroes of the pandemic.
+
+01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:51.000
+Spoke out very early and likely needed to be controlled and it's likely that people were put in front of him
+
+01:17:51.000 --> 01:17:59.000
+and that people were queued onto the scene specifically to take the spotlight away from this whistleblower,
+
+01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:06.000
+who had found the document from Japan and started telling everybody the lipid nanoparticle is not going to stay where they said it was.
+
+01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:08.000
+And that's a big problem.
+
+01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:13.000
+And so then they decided to bring out Robert Malone and Steve Kirsch and make a big deal about them
+
+01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:16.000
+and start making them go viral instead of buy room.
+
+01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:20.000
+And then buy room basically disappeared.
+
+01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:21.000
+That's how it works.
+
+01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:23.000
+The show must go on, ladies and gentlemen.
+
+01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:29.000
+And there is a spectacular commitment to lies that cannot be disrupted.
+
+01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:32.000
+And that's what these people have been doing from the very beginning.
+
+01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:38.000
+That's why Byron Bridal's never been on the podcast of Brett Weinstein.
+
+01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:44.000
+Never been on Joe Rogan, but Robert Malone has.
+
+01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:49.000
+Even though Byron Bridal's the guy who came out first, Byron Bridal's the whistleblower,
+
+01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:55.000
+but no, he hasn't been on any of these intellectual dark web shows at all.
+
+01:18:55.000 --> 01:19:03.000
+Robert Malone's been on the Tommy podcast more times than Byron Bridal's been on any American podcast ever.
+
+01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:09.000
+That should tell you all you need to know.
+
+01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:23.000
+And so the narrative that we've been telling and the way that we're explaining this is that the who declared a pandemic of a dangerous novel virus said to be detectable by a non specific PCR test for RNA viruses applied to a low prevalence population.
+
+01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:38.000
+And intentionally correlated with poor or detrimental health protocols through financial incentives that enable the larger percentage of all cause mortality than normal P and I to be prioritized as a national security threat composed of vaccine preventable deaths.
+
+01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:44.000
+And then there they could justify rolling out the vaccine with haste and lying about it.
+
+01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:50.000
+The US was ready with this plan to respond to a coronavirus pandemic and that plan is in motion today.
+
+01:19:50.000 --> 01:20:08.000
+It is very possible that NIAID funded infectious RNA clone was used to see the pandemic around the world so that the molecular biology would be sound and that there would be a limited spread of an identifiable pathogen that would have an RNA signature that was predictable
+
+01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:16.000
+that the natural coronavirus swarm cannot sustain that signal. That's the reason why I posit that an infectious clone may have been used to create it.
+
+01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:32.000
+The reason why they would create a signal like that is to guarantee their justification for it can for inverting our individual sovereignty to basic granted permissions.
+
+01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:46.000
+So one of the ways that they accomplish this the most important aspect of this is this lie about gain of function viruses in bat caves and in laboratories and on lab benches where they stitch pieces together.
+
+01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:58.000
+The reason why this consensus is important because it is not only a consensus about the existence of gain of function but it is a consensus about what was the worst case scenario.
+
+01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:06.000
+If there is a consensus about what the worst case scenario was then there is a consensus that they just did what they thought was right.
+
+01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:12.000
+They did what they had to do given the consensus worst case scenario.
+
+01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:24.000
+And that justifies the behavior of people that were wittingly and unwittingly involved in the narrative control and the seeding of the Scooby-Doo.
+
+01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:33.000
+If you have to lie to these people or this whole worst case scenario could possibly come true.
+
+01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:46.000
+And again that's why these people are all involved and I have been naive enough not to know that even Huberman is a member of this group and is sponsored by the people they are sponsored by but I just didn't see it.
+
+01:21:46.000 --> 01:22:01.000
+They created this illusion of consensus and it is illusion of consensus that was also created because they had this graph down here as the one they showed on TV and they did not teach you the all cause mortality which is in the light blue.
+
+01:22:01.000 --> 01:22:06.000
+They use this graph on PBS NewsHour and they only showed you the red.
+
+01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:19.000
+And that graph is the graph that corresponds to the faith that there was a novel virus that millions died and were saved gain a function is real and a virus will come again.
+
+01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:28.000
+And so again on television they told you that the mystery virus was causing all the excess deaths and they told you the excess deaths were the red curve down here.
+
+01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:40.000
+And in reality you needed to look at this curve and then try to subtract all the things that we knew were odd but not the virus.
+
+01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:51.000
+And if we had done that accurately from the very beginning we would have subtracted many do not resuscitate orders we would have subtracted many poorly ventilated people.
+
+01:22:51.000 --> 01:23:04.000
+People that didn't receive antibiotics, people that didn't get steroids when they needed people that were put on remdesivir, people that died of opioid deaths and all the death certificate fraud that took place because of the financial incentives in place.
+
+01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:19.000
+So this conversion of all cause mortality to a national security priority was done using these bad ideas and then called a mystery virus.
+
+01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:36.000
+And the way that you avoid this math being done is that you do not talk about PCR fraud you do not talk about lateral flow test frauds and lateral flow test being made in China and shipped all around the world to track the pandemic everywhere but in China.
+
+01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:47.000
+You don't talk about the variances and the sequences you don't talk about RNA infectious clones you don't talk about the quasi species genetics or incompetent fractions like biorom bridal might.
+
+01:23:47.000 --> 01:23:53.000
+You don't talk about RNA fidelity limits and you don't talk about homology between coronavirus proteins.
+
+01:23:53.000 --> 01:24:00.000
+You just talk about the faith that there was a novel virus that millions have died and millions were saved.
+
+01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:09.000
+Getting a function is real and a virus will come again. That's the only thing you talk about and you don't avoid testing it by not doing the math.
+
+01:24:09.000 --> 01:24:16.000
+That's it. It's really simple.
+
+01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:26.000
+It's an illusion of consensus.
+
+01:24:26.000 --> 01:24:33.000
+So let's just break it out as best we can. I'm going to get rid of that spinning G.
+
+01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:41.000
+So a transfection in its purest form is wholly inappropriate for healthy humans. That's the first place to start.
+
+01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:47.000
+Upscaling from nanograms to kilograms was predicted to be a source of huge problems in 2020.
+
+01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:54.000
+And we even made fun of rants and yellow about it because he was joking about it on one of his Twitter streams.
+
+01:24:54.000 --> 01:25:00.000
+Sorry, Twib streams where he was talking to all those brilliant retired virologists.
+
+01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:09.000
+And he thought, wow, isn't it cool how they went from nanograms to kilograms? That's just amazing.
+
+01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:20.000
+RNA was impure. That means impure antigens are produced. It means shortened antigens are produced, which is a whole bunch of unknown effects.
+
+01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:28.000
+The RNA was codon optimized, which means that it could go through the ribosome in an unpredictable way, which would result in misfolding.
+
+01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:31.000
+Misfolding could be amyloid, could be prion. I don't know.
+
+01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:38.000
+It could also just be a misfolded spike protein that misrepresents epitopes that would be relevant for the virus or for anything,
+
+01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:44.000
+but they're not relevant for anything if they're misfolded.
+
+01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:52.000
+The mRNA was chemically altered, meaning that the uracils were replaced with n-methyl-sudo-uridine.
+
+01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:58.000
+This causes premature stop codons. It can also cause wobble-based substitutions.
+
+01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:05.000
+The premature stop codons can result in very short RNA sequences, which can be interfering RNA.
+
+01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:13.000
+They can also interfere with microRNAs, which are still a very poorly understood signal in the cell, but definitely a physiologically relevant one.
+
+01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:19.000
+Making short RNAs is also not a great thing.
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+There's no reason to run around with your hair on fire. I'm trying to get out of it. That's weird how that works.
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+There's no reason to run around with your hair on fire just because of number 9. Just remember that.
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+And so there was a novel virus, millions died, gained a function, and a virus will come again as the illusion of consensus we are trying to break.
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+Those are our leaders. Those are the people we should be looking to for guidance in the future.
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+We've gotten fooled into spending so much of our mental energy on this question.
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+The faith is a lie and you can tell these players because they stop talking about the PCR fraud, they've stopped talking about all the variant fraud, all the death certificate fraud, the RNA purity fraud, the protein folding, the
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+Ladies and gentlemen, we are at a time point where human diversity is at its peak for the next 30 years.
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+And so there is a concerted effort by the people that rule us to invert the way we think about our sovereignty and more importantly, they want to invert the way that your children think about their sovereignty because they don't need ours.
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+It's too late for us. They need our kids, kids. And I can't stress enough how this is a game of generations and it is a game for all the marbles.
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+So if you want to win, you got to learn the biology. One of the best ways to learn the biology is try to understand this statement backwards and forwards.
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+Intermuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
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+Transfection is not immunization, ladies and gentlemen. Please stop all transfections in humans because they are trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary. Thanks for any means.
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+I'm going to see you guys again tomorrow night. My voice feels pretty good, so I guess I'll see you again tomorrow.
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+Thank you guys for being here.
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+Vilma, good to see you. You haven't been here in a while. Pamela, always, always a pleasure.
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+I'm really happy you're here, Albert. Good to see you.
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+Diana Dezik, Jeff from Earth. As always, don't forget to follow Jeff from Earth's Instagram.
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+Pam, good to see you here. Left hand, monkey wrench.
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+We did miss Moderna tonight, or we did end up showing up. I don't know if he was here tonight or not.
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+Think all just good to see you, man. Jan and Reno, yo, yo, yo, what up?
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+I'm glad you appreciate the screen, man. I'm really happy. Please share my work. Thank you very much. There he is.
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+Moderna is here. All right, guys. Thanks very much. I will see you tomorrow.
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+Bye.
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+Yeah, that's what Gigo and biological is all about.
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+We're trying to dispel that mythology.
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+So welcome to the show.
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+Yes, welcome to the show.
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+This is Gigo and biological.
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+My name is Jonathan Cooley.
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+I live in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and I stream from the back of my garage.
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+Good morning, good evening, good afternoon, good night, wherever you are on earth.
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+Thank you for joining me on the 27th of October, 2023.
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+This is the last week of this daylight savings time thing that we do in Europe.
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+I think you're actually flipping over this weekend.
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+Lucky you, I think in America we have one more week.
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+and some of his antics have brought him to the, and I say antics because this is a Scooby Doo mystery.
+
+00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:12.000
+Some of his antics have brought him into a long time business and scientific consulting relationship with a company in Rhode Island called Epivax,
+
+00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:18.000
+whose chief scientific officer and CEO are Annie DeGroat.
+
+00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:26.000
+Annie DeGroat and her mentor at the time wrote this article in 2004,
+
+00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:33.000
+and I just thought it would be interesting to read its abstract to your, its introductory paragraphs to you.
+
+00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:44.000
+Again, hat tip to Mark Kulak of his atomic life for finding Annie DeGroat and Epivax in their connection with West Coast clinical trials,
+
+00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:50.000
+the consulting firm of Robert Malone through the early 2000s.
+
+00:13:50.000 --> 00:14:00.000
+And it's just been an absolute whirlwind of connections with these Canadian and American firms that have been involved in T cell vaccines
+
+00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:04.000
+and DNA vaccines for almost two decades.
+
+00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:10.000
+And he's just uncovered, uncovered is not the right word.
+
+00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:13.000
+Basically what it is, is that I've got a day job.
+
+00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.000
+I've got three kids. I've got a wife and a marriage.
+
+00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.000
+I'm trying to maintain.
+
+00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.000
+I've got hobbies that distract me still.
+
+00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:27.000
+And Mark Kulak has a newfound granddaughter that he's taking full care of,
+
+00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:36.000
+and trying to also stream and take care of the house while his wife brings home income and his stream supplements this.
+
+00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:40.000
+And so neither of us have a lot of time for goofing around.
+
+00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:46.000
+And I certainly don't have time to do the legwork on a lot of these people that we uncover.
+
+00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.000
+And if you can imagine each one of these people,
+
+00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:54.000
+if they are a significant scientist,
+
+00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:57.000
+I mean, I'm an insignificant scientist.
+
+00:14:57.000 --> 00:15:01.000
+If you look me up on PubMed and tried to read all the papers that I've written,
+
+00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:04.000
+it would at least take you an afternoon.
+
+00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:10.000
+If you want to read up and really understand what Kevin McCarran has done with his neuroscience career,
+
+00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:14.000
+it's going to take you at least an afternoon.
+
+00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:19.000
+And some of these people, like Annie de Crowe, who's had a career for more than 20 years,
+
+00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:22.000
+it's going to take you a little more than an afternoon to dig deep
+
+00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:26.000
+and to find out how long they've been pursuing some of these hypotheses,
+
+00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:30.000
+how long they've been pursuing some of these avenues of investigation.
+
+00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:38.000
+And it turns out that Annie de Crowe has been on the trail of universal
+
+00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:45.000
+or generic T cell epitopes for nearly 20 years.
+
+00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:49.000
+Arguably, in my limited experience with the immune system,
+
+00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:57.000
+arguably one of the most important dual-use technologies of all.
+
+00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:02.000
+It turns out that Annie de Crowe cut her teeth with HIV very early,
+
+00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:07.000
+has written papers about vaccines and SARS and HIV
+
+00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:11.000
+and has written this opinion piece, which I think is very insightful
+
+00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:16.000
+and enlightening from the perspective of the attitude about vaccines,
+
+00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:19.000
+given who we are about to watch tonight, which is Paul Offit,
+
+00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:25.000
+one of the high priests of vaccinology who would apparently sacrifice all of his children
+
+00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:31.000
+on the altar of vaccines in the sense of he would sacrifice his children
+
+00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:36.000
+if it meant everyone in the world would take vaccines because they're so valuable.
+
+00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:42.000
+It's like the math is very easy to do.
+
+00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:47.000
+The market for vaccines is driven by perception, not by actual need.
+
+00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:51.000
+So unlike pharmaceuticals for which present illnesses drive demand,
+
+00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:57.000
+it is the perception of risk for disease that creates a desire for vaccination.
+
+00:16:57.000 --> 00:17:02.000
+When the perceived risk for disease is lower or the disease is less prevalent,
+
+00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:07.000
+CO2 demand wanes and concern about potential side effects may eventually drive the demand
+
+00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:12.000
+for a vaccine and its return on investment to zero.
+
+00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:17.000
+This odd effect that perception has on demand is best illustrated by funding trends
+
+00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:23.000
+for vaccine development following the events of 9-11-2001.
+
+00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:29.000
+That Mark Koolack has so eloquently shown us was like a pivot point
+
+00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:34.000
+that there was this huge build-up happening in the rhetoric about bioterrorism,
+
+00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:39.000
+bioterrorism, right up until September 10th when Big Joe Biden was on TV
+
+00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:42.000
+talking about bioterrorism down to a little blonde lady,
+
+00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:47.000
+bioterrorism, bioterrorism, anthrax, bioterrorism.
+
+00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:51.000
+Concerns about bioterror have amplified public demand for vaccines against pathogens
+
+00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:57.000
+for which the natural risk of actual risk of illness and exposure is minute.
+
+00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:03.000
+Nonetheless, terrorism in several years of sustained increases in government funding
+
+00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:06.000
+have had a stimulatory effect on vaccine development.
+
+00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:12.000
+AIDS has also driven vaccine research primarily because of a well-deserved
+
+00:18:12.000 --> 00:18:15.000
+infusion of funding in that field.
+
+00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:22.000
+It doesn't exactly sound like vaccines have saved the world.
+
+00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:29.000
+It doesn't sound like vaccines have solved the miracle invention of all medicine,
+
+00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:36.000
+like Brett Weinstein said, or like Peter Hotez would say, or Paul Offit.
+
+00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:45.000
+So the co-author of this, her supervisor is coming up and I thought I had that up next.
+
+00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:49.000
+So yesterday, let me just check my slide list here to make sure I'm right
+
+00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:52.000
+because I would like that to be beginning before that.
+
+00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:54.000
+What did I do here?
+
+00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:00.000
+Okay, this one should have been the other way.
+
+00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:05.000
+I'm just going to escape here, put this up here, quick, and then do this.
+
+00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:07.000
+Sorry.
+
+00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:15.000
+So we could watch this.
+
+00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:26.000
+Well, I think, you know, the big problem in vaccines has been that while it's been possible
+
+00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:32.000
+in the past to make vaccines against viruses that cause acute self-limited infections,
+
+00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:40.000
+that's mostly been done by making either an attenuated or killed virus,
+
+00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:47.000
+which induces an immune response that mimics the immune response that you get to the natural infection,
+
+00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:53.000
+because the natural infection will give you lifelong or at least long-lasting immunity.
+
+00:19:53.000 --> 00:20:00.000
+But now what's left are viruses that cause chronic infections or cancer that causes chronic disease,
+
+00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:07.000
+where the disease itself does not induce an adequate response to get protection.
+
+00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:12.000
+So now the vaccine has to be better than the virus or the cancer itself,
+
+00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:20.000
+so we have to develop new ways against chronic infections like HIV or hepatitis C.
+
+00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:27.000
+So this is language that we have heard a couple of three years ago, Tony Fauci used in 2011
+
+00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:34.000
+when he was talking about making an AIDS vaccine, and he basically said exactly the same thing
+
+00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:40.000
+when he was explaining this to a BBC reporter that previous vaccines,
+
+00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:45.000
+because the body already fights those diseases,
+
+00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:49.000
+then stimulating the response is easy.
+
+00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:54.000
+But in diseases that the body doesn't fight and can't fight,
+
+00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:59.000
+then we have to have a vaccine that's better than the natural immunity.
+
+00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:06.000
+And this, I believe, is a biologically incongruent description of the challenge
+
+00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:13.000
+that those purported pathogens or pathogenic states require.
+
+00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:18.000
+And I think this is really at the heart of the immunomethology.
+
+00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:24.000
+It's the heart of the myth we are trying to break is this kind of thinking.
+
+00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:25.000
+It's flawed thinking.
+
+00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:29.000
+It's flawed thinking from the perspective of thinking about how the immune system works,
+
+00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:34.000
+how the immune system responds, what the immune system is trying to do.
+
+00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:47.000
+And it's that collective misunderstanding that leads to these people thinking that they know how to augment the immune system.
+
+00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:53.000
+And the crazy thing is, is the more that Mark pushes me to read these people's work,
+
+00:21:53.000 --> 00:22:01.000
+or it becomes very clear to me that they have always known that antibodies are an absolutely atrocious approximation
+
+00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:05.000
+or correlate of immunity.
+
+00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:08.000
+They're just an absolutely awful readout.
+
+00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:13.000
+And they've actually understood for that for quite some time, I believe.
+
+00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:18.000
+And there's a couple of other aces in the hole with regard to antibodies
+
+00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:24.000
+and their potential functional characteristics that I think they've kept in the wraps.
+
+00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:31.000
+One or two of which I actually stumbled on last year and tried to confirm with certain people.
+
+00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:42.000
+And it became very clear that the proposal of these additional functions of antibodies was really annoying to the people that I was trying to confirm it with.
+
+00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:46.000
+So I'm almost sure that those are also real.
+
+00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:51.000
+And it would make perfect sense from the perspective of how these molecules are likely working.
+
+00:22:51.000 --> 00:23:02.000
+But again, what we're talking about is almost like a limited hangout of immunology that produces the immunomethology by which we are being covered.
+
+00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:15.000
+And so it's a combination of outright lying and then also a giant amount of omission that makes it possible for these people to discuss augmenting the immune system in such simple terms.
+
+00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:25.000
+But here, I believe that this guy, Berzofsky, or whatever the hell his name is, I got to move this thing back in order to see his name.
+
+00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:33.000
+Jay Berzofsky, so he's the supervisor of Annie de Croat.
+
+00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:38.000
+Cancer Research National Cancer Institute.
+
+00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:44.000
+You can see that at least he's been at a meeting or two where Tony Fauci was present.
+
+00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:47.000
+So this is Annie de Croat's supervisor.
+
+00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:55.000
+And here he is talking about the fact that the majority of successful vaccines that have been worked in the past are live attenuated viral vaccines.
+
+00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:08.000
+The same kind of vaccines that when tested against the subunit vaccines with adjuvants were shown to be actually beneficial in ways besides causing immunity.
+
+00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:13.000
+Do you remember whose work that is?
+
+00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:16.000
+That's Christine Stabel Ben's work.
+
+00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:36.000
+And she has shown that if you look at live attenuated vaccines versus dead subunit vaccines, live attenuated vaccines have an actual benefit on all cause mortality far and different than also protecting the child from the vaccine targeted disease itself.
+
+00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:56.000
+It also seems to strengthen the immune system through general activation, whereas the application of adjuvanted subunit vaccines has an up to five times increase in all cause mortality in those children and no net benefit.
+
+00:24:56.000 --> 00:25:02.000
+Although it does seem to, I guess, prevent some of the diseases it's supposed to prevent.
+
+00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:13.000
+And so here he is saying that that all these vaccines that have worked before are against viruses that we already made a really good immune response to.
+
+00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:27.000
+And so we could just weaken those viruses and it was all good, but now when we're talking about vaccinating against diseases like AIDS or chronic diseases like cancer.
+
+00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:34.000
+We're really starting to call all kinds of things disease with meaning different things.
+
+00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:38.000
+It's a little bit like vehicles versus automobiles, you know.
+
+00:25:38.000 --> 00:25:44.000
+If you start using the word vehicles, well, you can talk about all kinds of things then.
+
+00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:59.000
+You can talk about boats and hydroplanes and hovercraft and drones and inflatable dingies and everything is a vehicle then.
+
+00:25:59.000 --> 00:26:11.000
+And it seems like the pivot back in these days was to try and blur the line almost in biological terms so that disease could mean anything.
+
+00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:28.000
+Disease could also mean genetic disorders. Disease can mean now pivoting to genetic disorder means that, well, we're pivoting vaccines from diseases that we make an immune response to diseases of the genome.
+
+00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:32.000
+And we still need vaccines for them.
+
+00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:45.000
+And so I really think that you can see it's almost like a psychological game that they're playing so that you think that vaccines can target genes now because that just makes sense.
+
+00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:49.000
+It's a natural progression of the technology and what are they doing?
+
+00:26:49.000 --> 00:27:02.000
+They're slipping genetic technologies in the back door of vaccine technology so that they can avoid all of the regular regulation of normal pharmaceuticals.
+
+00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:17.000
+And so they have to bring transfection and transformation in through the vaccine door because otherwise it will face the full regulatory structure of any other pharmaceutical drug.
+
+00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:27.000
+And so the cool thing to see here is that this has been ongoing as a semantic psychological bait and switch for a couple decades now.
+
+00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:35.000
+First in the cancer Institute where it's fine these people are all dying anyway we can call it a vaccine it's not going to hurt anybody.
+
+00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:53.000
+But 10 years later this concept has seeped into everyone's subconscious understanding to the point where people have become unable to to see the lie anymore.
+
+00:27:54.000 --> 00:28:06.000
+And imagine if it started all the way back in 2000 or in 1990 or in 1980 or maybe even in 1970 or 1960.
+
+00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:11.000
+Because I'm afraid that it has.
+
+00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:18.000
+And we need to be conscious of this idea that these concepts are how we win or lose.
+
+00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:23.000
+Starting to dismantle this in a very surgical way.
+
+00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:31.000
+Just like we have been trying for almost three years to get people to use the gosh darn word transfection more often.
+
+00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:34.000
+Everybody's so afraid to use it.
+
+00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:45.000
+If he had started using transfection on Brett Weinstein's show for real every day insistently for three years now he would have led the charge.
+
+00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:53.000
+If Bobby would have said transfection a few times in an interview already he would have had to explain what it means.
+
+00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:54.000
+But he hasn't.
+
+00:28:55.000 --> 00:29:07.000
+If Robert Malone wanted you to know it was a transfection he could have used the word and he could have explained it and he could have grounded into the dirt on his nine podcasts per day but he never uses the word.
+
+00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:15.000
+If any of these dissidents that have ever talked to me actually let that thing sink into their head and seed and flower.
+
+00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:19.000
+They would all be using the word transfection every day.
+
+00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:23.000
+And it drives people nuts.
+
+00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:27.000
+Because it is it forces a cognitive switch.
+
+00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:43.000
+Just like when they say gender reveal party instead of sex reveal party they when they say gender reveal party it sounds it sounds better on your tongue but what it does is it's convincing you the gender is something.
+
+00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:48.000
+Because remember gender is something you can choose.
+
+00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:57.000
+And so when you reveal the gender of your baby you're actually going into this little game of theirs.
+
+00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:11.000
+You don't even really know it but by taking on the gender reveal party you're accepting the term gender which they mean as a fluid definition.
+
+00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:16.000
+You've got to be really careful ladies and gentlemen because this is how they got us on vaccines too.
+
+00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:20.000
+This is how they got us with anti-vaxxers too.
+
+00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:34.000
+It is an enchantment and these enchantments are used to lay down and to to to fortify and to reinforce these these mythologies.
+
+00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:50.000
+You know the the big problem in vaccines has been that while it's been possible in the past to make vaccines against viruses that cause acute self limited infections.
+
+00:30:50.000 --> 00:31:11.000
+That's mostly been done by making either an attenuated or killed virus which induces an immune response that mimics the immune response that you get to the natural infection because the natural infection will give you lifelong or at least long lasting immunity.
+
+00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:24.000
+But now what's left are viruses that cause chronic infections or cancer that causes chronic disease where the disease itself does not induce an adequate response to get protection.
+
+00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:30.000
+So now the vaccine has to be better than the virus or the cancer itself.
+
+00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:38.000
+So we have to develop new ways against chronic infections like HIV or hepatitis C for example.
+
+00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:46.000
+And I think more and more strategies are being developed to target those very similar to the ones I just talked about for cancer vaccines.
+
+00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:52.000
+And I think hopefully within the next five to ten years we will have vaccines for those diseases.
+
+00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:59.000
+But of course that's at this point that's hope that's not nothing guaranteed, not promised.
+
+00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:04.000
+I think one is that we will use predictive vaccinology to devise new candidates.
+
+00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:11.000
+Two is we'll have an increasingly personalized approach and three and I think this is really the hallmark of it.
+
+00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:20.000
+We will begin to understand and develop biosignatures, immune signatures that predict whether you're going to respond to the vaccine or
+
+00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:24.000
+you're going to ultimately predict whether you're likely to have a side effect to that.
+
+00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:30.000
+And that will be a very exciting area. I call that vaccinology 2.0.
+
+00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.000
+Vaccinology 2.0.
+
+00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:37.000
+So you can see they're talking about informatics already way back then.
+
+00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:41.000
+Collecting all the data and making predictions.
+
+00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:48.000
+Yesterday or the day before we watched a stream with Kevin McCurnan
+
+00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:54.000
+talking about the DNA in the shots and I just want to make sure that I'm really clear about that.
+
+00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.000
+We also to be injected into these.
+
+00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:08.000
+The reason why I watch that is because I want everybody to understand what the concerns are and I want everybody to understand what Kevin and his colleagues claim to have found there.
+
+00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:18.000
+I want everyone to understand why it's part of a long list of things that are wrong with transfecting and mass.
+
+00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:27.000
+And I hope that it was very clear that Kevin McCurnan and I have had many interactions throughout the pandemic.
+
+00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:33.000
+I think he's been on giga home biological twice in our infancy.
+
+00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:39.000
+And so I've been on at least two or three other streams with Kevin.
+
+00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.000
+Once with I believe with Matt Crawford.
+
+00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:56.000
+I also had a stream on St. Patrick's Day this year with Jessica Rose, Stephanie Sineff, Kevin McCurnan and myself and John Bodewood.
+
+00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:11.000
+So we've interacted a lot and it was a pretty big disagreement about the significance of RNA infectious clones that resulted in Kevin McCurnan blocking me on Twitter.
+
+00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:14.000
+So it's interesting.
+
+00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:23.000
+I'm not really sure what to make of it because again, this is a guy who sold multiple companies who is consulting with multiple companies.
+
+00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:30.000
+I can only imagine he has been ridiculously successful financially as far as I can tell.
+
+00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:50.000
+And it's exceedingly odd that someone of his stature and sort of pedigree is wasting any time at all on Twitter talking to a guy who had less than 10,000 followers at the time and still rents his house.
+
+00:34:50.000 --> 00:35:14.000
+It's actually quite disheartening to think that somebody who was at the time shaking a can on the Internet for his family and kids and had lost a career in academic biology was being insulted and dunked on quote unquote regularly
+
+00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:36.000
+on Twitter by a guy who's worth tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars and has been successful since the early 90s on a national scale with regard to molecular biology and the human genome and sequencing and patenting and IP and you know
+
+00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:39.000
+and entrepreneurism.
+
+00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:44.000
+I mean, this would be the almost it's the equivalent of of.
+
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+Yeah, I don't know what the equivalent of it is, but it's exceedingly odd seeing also as at one point in time he saw me as someone who was worthy of his time enough that he would actually come on to my stream and talk.
+
+00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:11.000
+And given our long explanation about biology to do with the transfection never actually calling it a transfection but still.
+
+00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:30.000
+So I've had a long, long history with this gentleman and so when he wanted to communicate with the people that I'm working with now at Children's Health Defense, I definitely wanted them to understand the full breadth and depth of the problems with transfection and why
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+00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:46.000
+or at least how the DNA in the DNA signal that he's identified in some of these these vials could potentially be twisted around and used in such a way to make CHD fall on its face.
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+00:36:46.000 --> 00:37:06.000
+And so I think it's important that we understand that biology so that we see that this is just a long line of of things and it's not necessarily something his paper their results are not results that are rise to the level of significance that we can now go to the FDA and say look at Kevin's results
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+00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:17.000
+because they're their vials out of the trash. They're vials with no chain of custody. They are used without permission.
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+00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:30.000
+Their labs are not certified by the FDA in any way. We don't know if any of the equipment they use has been officially certified in any way so none of the results will ever be respected.
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+00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:53.000
+And it doesn't matter if Kevin McKernan has been a world-class molecular biologist for the last 30 years. There is in a court in the United States that will listen to that paper given the fact that again he claims to have gotten some of these vials in the mail from an anonymous source who just sent him to him when he asked for polyA RNA controls.
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+00:37:53.000 --> 00:38:13.000
+And so to make this an international story where Health Canada and all these other organizations are saying from the rooftops that these findings are real is really setting up almost anybody that gets on this bandwagon for a potential disaster.
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+00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:32.000
+Oh my gosh, you're such a dork. And that's what I think is very dangerous when you see somebody like Burke Halter come out and say these things because what did Burke Halter actually or Buck Halter actually say in the question and answer.
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+00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:42.000
+I'm going to play this video again because I think it's really important for you to hear that he would take a transfection if he could show that it didn't have any DNA in it.
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+00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:52.000
+And B, even if it has DNA and as he's detected, he would still recommend it for his parents just not necessarily for his daughter.
+
+00:38:52.000 --> 00:39:08.000
+And these two statements, I would submit, are evidence that he's not sophisticated enough in understanding the biology of the immune system or the potential consequences of transfection in order for him to give an opinion because he's apparently just a gene jockey
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+00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:27.000
+who's really good at PCR and sequencing because I think there are hundreds if not thousands of doctors immunologists, physiologists, biologists around the world who would agree with me the transfection and healthy mammals and healthy children and healthy adults
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+and healthy elderly people to a coronavirus protein based on a sequence that was found around the world according to the CDC would be ridiculous.
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+So let's listen to this video again that we don't need to be injected into these darker stitch ones.
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+00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:53.000
+I would like to do that and I will not get it unless I get a batch and find out that it's free of DNA and then I'll take it myself.
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+00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:56.000
+But I don't have any way of compelling that to happen.
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+00:39:56.000 --> 00:40:08.000
+So it was just basically a way to save money by doing it in such volume that way without then taking it back out later on.
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+00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:10.000
+I think nobody thought about it.
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+00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:15.000
+I think it was reasonable to use the E. coli to blow up the plasma.
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+00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:23.000
+I see in here that somebody says that Buckholtz had chain of custody. That's not actually true.
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+00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:35.000
+I know from talking to people in several conversations over the last few days that chain of custody actually means much more than just you know where it went.
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+00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:40.000
+Chain of custody actually means that you have to legally sign it over to the transport agency.
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+00:40:40.000 --> 00:41:04.000
+The transport agency has to be certified by the FDA to carry it at temperature and the transport like cooler or whatever has to be certified and calibrated with a readout so that you can see what temperature the product was stored at for the entire time
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+00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:17.000
+that it was transported from the pharmacy to his lab and then his lab would need to be certified in such a way so that they could produce a similar time signature temperature thing.
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+00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:33.000
+There are some pretty significant hurdles that are in place in order to be sure that official things are official to the point where it's very hard to do things officially unless you're official.
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+00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:44.000
+And so he's not official. I mean he's a super smart guy and he made a saliva test and I'm sure he's an expert at doing these things.
+
+00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:57.000
+But there are only certain labs that qualify as being capable of producing the results that the CDC and the FDA will respect and that's just the way it is.
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+00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:12.000
+And so unfortunately whether these guys know it or not, whether Kevin McCurnan or Philip here know it or not, what they're doing is only just the equivalent of a rumor.
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+00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:33.000
+The equivalent of hearsay and only with absolute surgical accuracy in terms of who you use, what laboratory you use, how they get the product and what tests they do on it, there's always going to be an out.
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+00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:55.000
+And this does not represent the dunk that everybody is trying to portray it as, that Steve Kirsch is trying to sell it as, that Robert Malone wants us to believe it is, that's all absolute nonsense for a list that does not fit on one page.
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+00:42:55.000 --> 00:43:09.000
+And listen again, it would be completely different if this guy was saying we shouldn't do it, we should have never done it, this is just crazy and this is the last, a long list of reasons and this is the latest one, but he's not saying that.
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+00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:18.000
+He's saying that I love this technology I think it works great I think it's going to work great on cancer I would give it to my parents even with this DNA in it.
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+That's significant ladies and gentlemen it's super significant please hear this for what it is it is an admission that this guy's not on our side.
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+00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:33.000
+He's 100% faithful to the narrative and faithful to the faith.
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+00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:43.000
+I mean he made money on a saliva test so he believes that PCR of a saliva test can track this virus so he is 100% a high priest.
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+00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:54.000
+Make the stuff and then the pieces of the DNA are of a very uniform and small size that's evidence that they took efforts to try to chop it up.
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+00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:57.000
+Then they knew about it.
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+00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:01.000
+Yeah they knew it and they took efforts to chop it up they just didn't get it all out.
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+00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:12.000
+But having said that I guess that they just didn't think about the hazard for genome modification because it's not all that expensive to add another process to get it out.
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+That's what I'm saying.
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+00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:17.000
+I can't get inside their mind.
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+00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:39.000
+I don't rush too much and that's why I'm saying these subsequent you know we've heard testimony of these subsequent you know variant subsequent boosters etc etc are leading to maybe not scientific yet but at least collateral mileage that it apparently these things are causing death and disability later on and also the aging process which you heard about.
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+00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.000
+There's a lot of suspicious associations.
+
+00:44:43.000 --> 00:45:04.000
+But that seems to me that before we can in South Carolina give this new vaccine world around here seems to me that our people ought to be able to look at that Mr. Chairman and see whether or not it's got this DNA and if it does fine tell everybody it's got the DNA and the problems associated there with.
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+00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:06.000
+Correct.
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+00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.000
+Okay but without that we have not informed consent.
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+00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:14.000
+I'm not really happy about that Mr. Chairman and do what I can to try to help.
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+00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:30.000
+Knowing what I know now about this I would still have recommended it to my elderly parents but I probably would not have given it to my daughters and I feel like my consent was not as informed as it should have been.
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+Thank you.
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+Yeah.
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+00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:33.000
+Representative Morgan.
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+00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.000
+I almost don't know where to start.
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+00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:39.000
+I'm trying not to talk because we're.
+
+00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:43.000
+So this illusion of consensus I think is the trap.
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+00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:50.000
+And the real issue now is to see that this is still an ongoing thing.
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+00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:54.000
+It's still an ongoing thing.
+
+00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:59.000
+I mean it's not for nothing but the bulls of these guys have blocked me on Twitter.
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+00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:06.000
+It's not like I tracked Phillip buckles down and started harassing him on the platform or anything like that.
+
+00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:12.000
+This is just what happens when the word spreads that you doubt them.
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+00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.000
+That you doubt the narrative.
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+00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:24.000
+And this is the way they make sure that none of the people that are following them will ever see that you doubt.
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+00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.000
+I haven't blocked any of them.
+
+00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:28.000
+What do I care if they tweet to me.
+
+00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.000
+Look at this backyard that this guy has.
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+His backyard overlooks a harbor with boats in it.
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+I don't know if you know or not but a harbor with boats in it.
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+00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:41.000
+Generally speaking means that you're living pretty large.
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+00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:43.000
+Another thing that means you're living pretty large.
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+00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:52.000
+If you have multiple main coon cats that can start at about twenty five hundred dollars and go right up to ten thousand pretty quick.
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+00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.000
+They're beautiful giant cats.
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+00:46:56.000 --> 00:47:04.000
+If you've sold multiple companies and you live on the harbor in Boston.
+
+00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:16.000
+I don't think you belong trying to mess up the biology classes of a guy with less than three thousand followers who rents his house in Pittsburgh.
+
+00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:19.000
+I think you're just a dick on wheels if you do that.
+
+00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:29.000
+And if you if you see it that way and that you see that not only has he done that but he has has actually behind the scenes.
+
+00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:35.000
+Tried to follow me around and tell people that I've been sabotaging him for the last nine months.
+
+00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:48.000
+Can you imagine that trying to trying to soil my my professional reputation by calling people that I used to work with and say did you know that this guy is doing this.
+
+00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.000
+I mean what what in the world.
+
+00:47:51.000 --> 00:48:02.000
+Why in the world would this guy be so motivated to do that to somebody who is already blocked on Twitter and makes probably six figures more than I do every year.
+
+00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:06.000
+I mean this is just a joke to me.
+
+00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:13.000
+There's there's no other explanation for this behavior other than pure and simple they're in on it.
+
+00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:17.000
+What are they in on this game.
+
+00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.000
+This game right here.
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+00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.000
+The game of it doesn't matter what counts.
+
+00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:31.000
+That's it doesn't matter what's true that counts it matters what people think is true and that's what they are involved in they are involved in preserving the faith.
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+They don't want you to know the transfection and its purest form is wholly inappropriate for for mammals for humans especially.
+
+00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:48.000
+They definitely don't want you to know.
+
+00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:58.000
+And that upscaling from nanograms to kilograms was predicted to be a source of huge problems already in 2020 and we were making fun of it as were many others including Michael Yeden and others.
+
+00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:09.000
+The RNA was impure that means it was never making pure spike protein was making all kinds of fragments and those fragments can do any number of unknown things.
+
+00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:19.000
+The RNA was code on optimized which is going to cause it to misfold and misfolding means you're not creating the epitopes that are created in the original antigen so it was all dumb to begin with.
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+00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:30.000
+They were never making a spike protein that would have been relevant and would have presented the relevant epitopes that are present on the regular spike maybe it makes neutralizing antibodies.
+
+00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:44.000
+But immunologically speaking a code on optimized spike protein is not immunologically equivalent to that of a of that using the viral RNA code.
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+00:49:45.000 --> 00:50:08.000
+Whether you believe in viruses or RNA's viruses or not the the canon of how molecular biology works is that a code on optimized RNA will result in a differently fold differentially folded protein than one that uses the original code found in the purported RNA virus.
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+That is for sure and that misfolding results in the presentation of the formation of different epitopes because epitopes are not they're not just the string of amino acids but they are the amino acids as they are assembled in three dimensional space.
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+00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:36.000
+The RNA was chemically altered by inserting n one methyl pseudo uridine.
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+00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:53.000
+This chemically altered base causes premature stop codons which can result in fragmented small RNAs which can be interfering and they can interfere with endogenous RNAs they can interfere with micro RNAs they can themselves be micro RNAs.
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+00:50:54.000 --> 00:51:07.000
+All of which we have barely barely barely barely even have scratched the surface of understanding but we definitely know that those signals are there that they are regulatory and modulatory signals and they are important.
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+00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:15.000
+And so making small RNAs at random is definitely not a good idea and that's one of the things that chemically altering this RNA does.
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+00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:27.000
+In addition to causing wobble based substitutions which is that this n-methyl pseudo uridine can pair with almost any other base and that makes it possible for other codons to be read.
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+00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:40.000
+The protein produces them therefore uncharacterized because of all of those things above therefore highly variable with countless unknown consequences.
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+00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:44.000
+The LNP was never tested for short and long term effects.
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+00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:50.000
+The endotoxins from process two are highly immunogenic and if they're present then they're a problem.
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+00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:55.000
+This double stranded DNA fragments from process two if they're present they might be a problem.
+
+00:51:55.000 --> 00:52:09.000
+And finally if the spike toxic is spike toxic itself is a question we have to ask provided that the spike is produced at all in quantities that matter and folding that matters.
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+00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:16.000
+Or if the production of the spike because it's codon optimized results in the misfolding that has been blamed on the spike.
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+00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:21.000
+It's a pretty complicated mess of crap here.
+
+00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:27.000
+It's not as simple oh there's double stranded DNA in the shot and we have to call a halt to it.
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+00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:37.000
+You can start at number one and call a halt to it like I wanted to do back in January of 2020 or 2021.
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+00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:44.000
+You can use number one is enough reason to stop.
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+00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:52.000
+And that's the big trick right that's the big trick that we've got to get everybody up to speed about.
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+00:52:52.000 --> 00:53:02.000
+We watched this video last night which is Byron Bridal and it was really nice to feature him because again I think that when he came out.
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+00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:15.000
+I was pointed out to me by I believe Sana on Twitter that here at funded bush actually also came on to the scene right around the same time that Byron Bridal was becoming famous and going on radio shows.
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+00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:28.000
+So Robert Malone comes out of the off the bench and care funded bush comes off the bench in Europe because Byron Bridal put his whole career on the line because he found a document that didn't make sense.
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+00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:38.000
+And this guy has been turning over every freaking tenant of vaccinology that he ever believed in for his whole career.
+
+00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:44.000
+And it looks like he's losing his mind a little bit which is how it should look when you see an alien.
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+00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:50.000
+Which is how it should look when you find out that everything you believed in your life is wrong.
+
+00:53:51.000 --> 00:54:00.000
+You should find yourself in the back of your garage streaming for three years when you find out that everything you believed about public health was wrong.
+
+00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:03.000
+That's a normal response.
+
+00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:17.000
+And so what we have been charting here is really it's a it's a it's a protection racket that makes sure that we don't question a novel virus.
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+00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:20.000
+We don't question the millions died from it.
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+00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:28.000
+We don't question that there were possibilities that people were saved by different things or could have more could have been saved by different choices.
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+00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:35.000
+And it doesn't really matter how you understand that as long as you understand that big choices made big big outcomes happen.
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+00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:39.000
+And so we need to make big choices in the future.
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+Gain a function is real and a virus will come again. None of these people question it. None of them.
+
+00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:52.000
+And please look carefully at the people that I have around this circle.
+
+00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:56.000
+I'm not friendly. I'm objective.
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+00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:03.000
+If you haven't questioned the novel virus or the fact that millions have died or the equate you haven't questioned the gain of function is real.
+
+00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:11.000
+And you haven't questioned whether a virus will come again. You are on the outside of this circle and you are working against my children's future.
+
+00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:23.000
+It's not a matter of what's true it counts but what is a matter of perceived to be true tonight we are going to watch this monster.
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+00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.000
+And I shouldn't call him a monster.
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+00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:35.000
+But I do think that he's probably one of the worst actors in this theater because he has been on stage for longer than most.
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+00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:56.000
+He has been a lead longer than most. Before this theater ever became important and when it became important because of the movie Vaxxed and when it became important because of the pandemic he's always been one of the lead players.
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+00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:06.000
+And so I think it's important to pay attention to what he says because oftentimes he actually can give away a few things.
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+Did I close this? That's weird.
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+00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:19.000
+I kind of thought I had that open. Let's see if I can quickly find where I was.
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+Hopefully I can.
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+I just got to do this search. Sorry about that. I thought I had it open already.
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+Hey, what? What? Where? Yes, here we go.
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+It is. I swoosh. That was loud. Sorry about that. Here it comes. I'm going to get it over here.
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+My bad. I really did think I thought I had it set up here.
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+From Microbe TV, this is Beyond the Noise, episode number 19 recorded on October 3rd, 2023.
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+00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:15.000
+I'm Vincent Rackeniello and joining me today is your host, Dr. Paul Offit.
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+00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:17.000
+Hi, Vincent.
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+00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:22.000
+This is the video version of Paul's column on substack called Beyond the Noise,
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+00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.000
+Cutting to the Chase on Important Health Topics.
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+Today I'd like to take a closer look at Paul's most recent column,
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+00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:34.000
+Should Scientists Open Lead Debate Vaccine Policies?
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+And Paul, you begin this column by writing scientists constantly question the validity of scientific studies among themselves.
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+00:57:45.000 --> 00:57:47.000
+Yeah, I mean, you and I know this. This is what happens.
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+But I think often the public doesn't understand that that's part of science. They think we're waffling.
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+It's how we get better. I mean, as a young scientist,
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+00:57:56.000 --> 00:58:02.000
+when I would appear in either national or national meetings and present my data, those data were criticized.
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+00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:07.000
+I mean, was I really able to draw the conclusions I drew based on data that I showed?
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+00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:12.000
+Did I do the right controls? Was my, was it internally consistent, robust, reproducible?
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+And that's how you got better. So that's the cauldron in which you and I both were raised.
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+And so the point of this column is that that kind of questioning doesn't do well in the public health arena.
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+And you give as an example the bivalent booster story. So why don't you tell us that?
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+Right. It's a tough lesson. I think last year was a tough lesson and this year has been a tough lesson.
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+So, so I'm only FDA Vaccine Advisory Committee in June of 2022.
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+We sat down to discuss what we were going to do about COVID vaccines.
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+Now, up to that point, the only vaccine that we had used was the original strain, the ancestral strain to Wuhan one strain.
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+But starting late 2021, early 2022, the Omicron strain came into the United States and it was immune evasive.
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+So what to do? And so the decision that was made and really was in our decision was decision really made by the FDA and the in concert with the pharmaceutical companies was to instead of just using the Wuhan strain.
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+Why don't we do a half a dose of the Wuhan one strain and a half of a dose of what was one of the circulating Omicron strains.
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+Now, the original data that were generated were with the original Omicron strain VA one.
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+But by the time we sat down VA one was gone to only to be replaced by VA four VA five.
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+So that was the decision. Let's move forward with this.
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+Now, the data that were shown us at that time were not terribly convincing.
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+It didn't look like that when you get when you added that VA one strain, which were the data we were presented with,
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+that you really got a neutralizing antibody response against VA one much greater than you would have gotten with Wuhan one alone, because that was the goal.
+
+00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:56.000
+By adding that Omicron strain, you would then increase the amount of neutralizing antibodies.
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+The data weren't terribly convincing.
+
+00:59:58.000 --> 01:00:01.000
+Nonetheless, we removed for without it.
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+You know, it's, you know, I think in fairness, in fairness to the FDA and fairness to pharmaceutical companies, they thought this would be kind of the next step on the way to making better vaccines.
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+01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:15.000
+Fair enough. But the good news is you can tell whether or not that was the right move.
+
+01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:31.000
+So what happened over the next few months is studies that were done by David Ho and Columbia or Dan Baruch and that Harvard looked at people who were inoculated either with the, the, this by valent vaccine is two in one vaccine or just amount of valent vaccine.
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+Did they make a better neutralizing antibody response against VA four VA five and the answer was no.
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+01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:52.000
+And then there have been three studies, clinical studies, two with VA one, a third with VA four VA five all by valent vaccines, all prospective, all controlled using a monovalent vaccine to see as the other vaccine.
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+And there was no difference. That's okay.
+
+01:00:55.000 --> 01:01:12.000
+So here he's about to describe how after coming out and saying that the by valent vaccine wasn't necessarily better and he wasn't going to get it right away or that he objected to saying it was better or something like that.
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+He was blamed for nobody taking the vaccine.
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+Now I want you to see.
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+I want you to see how clearly this is that.
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+How clearly this is a controlled spectrum of debate.
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+How he formulates a.
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+A hypothetical situation of.
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+Of dissent.
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+And how people don't want to hear dissent.
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+And then makes the argument that we need to be able to discuss these things if we're going to improve our public health.
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+01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:58.000
+And so I.
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+01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:04.000
+When trying to discuss these things and bring a dissenting opinion.
+
+01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:08.000
+Was hammered on and that's not fair.
+
+01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:25.000
+Just like Brett Weinstein says that he was censored because he put Robert Malone on his stream in June of 2021 and really didn't question or do anything controversial at all.
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+01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:32.000
+We are talking about.
+
+01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:40.000
+The worst kind of liars because they are consistently engaged in telling you a story.
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+01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:47.000
+That is based on a national security priority they rationalize it in their head.
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+01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:52.000
+Because they feel they are part of a governing structure.
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+01:02:53.000 --> 01:03:00.000
+Paul Offit has felt part of this governing structure for 20 years.
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+Vaccines are not.
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+01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:06.000
+Distributed because of need.
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+01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:12.000
+According to Andy DeGroat and her supervisor at the National Cancer Institute.
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+They are distributed by a perceived need.
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+And Paul Offit's job is to sustain that perceived need for national security reasons.
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+Brett Weinstein and the intellectual dark web were recruited in 2019 to sustain those ideas as a national security priority.
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+01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:53.000
+The worst case scenario of a bio weapon lab leak and a billion people dying.
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+Was necessary to be seated in order to accomplish what Paul Offit has been part of trying to accomplish for the last 20 years.
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+01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:06.000
+To make sure that every child.
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+01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:10.000
+That grows up in America to raise children.
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+Believes that the vaccine schedule is 100% safe.
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+100% necessary and unquestionably the best medical thing we've got going.
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+This is nothing short of a game for all the marbles.
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+And they intend to govern our children with public health.
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+They intend to govern all of the futures children with public health.
+
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+Not with national governments, not with parliaments, with public health.
+
+01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:58.000
+Local governments, national governments are going to do the things that don't matter anymore.
+
+01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:07.000
+And they're going to do them increasingly with less efficiency, more waste and less effectiveness.
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+01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:14.000
+So that the only good governance we have is public health.
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+So that our children believe that the only working apparatus is public health.
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+It's coming.
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+It's okay not to be right.
+
+01:05:29.000 --> 01:05:31.000
+Now boosters boosted.
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+It just wasn't any better.
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+I think what was hard for me was watching many of the public health arena saying it was better, saying it was much better.
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+This is going to be much better.
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+Definitely better.
+
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+So you should get it for that reason.
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+01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:46.000
+And so I took a contrary point of view.
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+01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:54.000
+I did what scientists normally do, which is I submitted a perspective piece to the New England Journal of Medicine, which was published, which is to say in order to get it published, it has to be reviewed.
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+01:05:54.000 --> 01:06:00.000
+So I wasn't the only one that had this point of view, obviously, people that read that also had that point of view.
+
+01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:09.000
+But when I got up, and I think that the sort of the moment for me, the crystallizing moment was I was, because I was on CNN, a fair amount because I was on the FDA vaccine advisory committee.
+
+01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:12.000
+I was asked by Pamela Brown this question.
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+First, she showed a clip of a public health official who was the coronavirus response coordinator at the White House saying this is a much better vaccine.
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+01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:27.000
+And that's why you need to get it. And so they then shifted to me and said, is he wrong?
+
+01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:29.000
+Pamela Brown said, is he wrong?
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+And so you don't want to make it personal.
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+So I said, well, here are two papers that were just published in the New England Journal of Medicine that showed it doesn't appear to be any better, no worse, but not better.
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+And I was hammered for that, hammered.
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+01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:54.000
+I mean, I got, there were two very prominent bloggers, one a cardiologist, another one an epidemiologist who basically said that what I had done is I had had frightened the American public about this vaccine.
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+01:06:55.000 --> 01:07:06.000
+Because of me, the uptake was low last year, only one in five Americans who were asked to get that vaccine, which is everybody over six months of age, actually got it. And that was in part my fault.
+
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+I mean, I got, you know, I got, I was in the places like the Daily Mail, Epic Times.
+
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+I mean, that's when you know you're losing.
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+And, you know, they basically said that I said that this vaccine wasn't any good, which isn't what I said.
+
+01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:31.000
+So I think the minute you weigh in on this, by definition, whenever you weigh in on the media anyway, you could be misinterpreted. But here, because we were so divisive, you're either on one side or another.
+
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+When I appeared to be not clearly stating what the public health group.
+
+01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:39.000
+So what you have to see here is that he's complaining of censorship.
+
+01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:45.000
+But what actually happened was his message got amplified.
+
+01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:50.000
+Just like Robert Malone complained about censorship, but there was none.
+
+01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:53.000
+His message got amplified by the censorship.
+
+01:07:53.000 --> 01:08:00.000
+Just like Alex Berenson complains about censorship, but actually his message has always been amplified.
+
+01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:03.000
+It's a lie.
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+01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:11.000
+It is the actual spectrum of debate that they want to maintain.
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+And that's why they amplified.
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+He thinks that, oh, I was on the Epoch Times, but that's exactly how they do it.
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+Jonathan, Jonathan Cooey is this cord is starting to drop out one of my ears and that's annoying.
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+Wow.
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+Jonathan Cooey is not making it to the Epoch Times because he's being censored.
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+01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:43.000
+Jonathan Cooey isn't covered on the Daily Beast because he's being censored.
+
+01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:46.000
+But Paul Offit gets covered on the Daily Beast.
+
+01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:48.000
+Paul Offit gets covered on the Blaze.
+
+01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:54.000
+Paul Offit gets covered on the Epoch Times.
+
+01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:57.000
+So it's not really censorship.
+
+01:08:57.000 --> 01:09:01.000
+It's amplification.
+
+01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:14.000
+And once you start to see that almost all of these people that have complained about censorship have actually been amplified have benefited from their censorship.
+
+01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:18.000
+Whereas just look at the count.
+
+01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:21.000
+I still have less than 4,000 subscribers on YouTube.
+
+01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:24.000
+I still have less than 3,000 subscribers on Twitch.
+
+01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:28.000
+I still have less than 15,000 followers on Twitter.
+
+01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:45.000
+While some of these really average mediocre, you know, personalities on Twitter or personalities on YouTube or personalities on Twitch have 10 times as many followers.
+
+01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:51.000
+And don't put out the kind of consistent quality of information that's found on Giggle.
+
+01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:56.000
+Not even close.
+
+01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:58.000
+You can't make this stream go viral.
+
+01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.000
+You can't make this material go viral.
+
+01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.000
+You can't make my Twitter account go viral.
+
+01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:10.000
+But if you start sharing Paul Offit stuff, your tweets will go bananas.
+
+01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:18.000
+Because the algorithm wants to amplify the limited spectrum of debate within which we are all trapped.
+
+01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:23.000
+And Paul Offit is a definer of that debate.
+
+01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:26.000
+Which groups were stating that I had gone to the other side.
+
+01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:33.000
+I mean, I got love letters from from anti vaccine activists saying that things like they have been praying for me for years.
+
+01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:36.000
+And now it's good to see that I have finally come over to their side.
+
+01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:38.000
+I mean, I was asked to be on Newsmax.
+
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+When that happens, by the way, you know that your message isn't getting out there.
+
+01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:46.000
+And that was that was last year's lesson. So, so what's the answer?
+
+01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:58.000
+Do you do you say nothing? Because when you say something, you're going to be misinterpreted. When you say something, you are going to be in open in many way, I'm invigorating anti vaccine activists. And when you say something.
+
+01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:06.000
+Jolie interview was rebroadcast on rents radio in his online show in its entirety or just the part about the string theory.
+
+01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:26.000
+Because for the first time in the history of my stream, somebody came on my show and had a visual aid and that visual aid ended up turning into a video that was produced by somebody I don't know with titles and with a little headshot of mine.
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+01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:33.000
+And they tried to make it go as viral as they possibly could. No one's ever tried to do that before.
+
+01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:44.000
+No one. Not any. No one. All of the clips that my good friend Jeff from Earth has made. Not one person has ever tried to make one of those clips go viral.
+
+01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:55.000
+I've never seen any of those people that I saw make that clip of Jolie try to go viral. I've never seen them try to make any other of my shows ever go viral.
+
+01:11:55.000 --> 01:12:05.000
+I've never seen them make another clip of any of my work ever. Not of Denny's show, not of Michael's show, not of anyone's show ever.
+
+01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:17.000
+Do you hear that? Do you hear it? That means something. It should mean something to you.
+
+01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:32.000
+It shouldn't be a good sign. Because the best part of my talk is the any combination of substances injected intramuscularly with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
+
+01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:45.000
+They've never made a clip of that. One of my most important clips is when I'm teaching infectious clones using the cassette tape and CD analogy.
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+01:12:45.000 --> 01:12:52.000
+No one's ever made a clip of that except for Jeff and maybe one of my friends from Germany.
+
+01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:59.000
+But man did they come out of the woodwork for Jolie.
+
+01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:04.000
+I'm not making any accusations. I'm not making any statements. I just want you to see what I see.
+
+01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:09.000
+And I don't see like, oh my goodness, finally somebody's paying attention to me.
+
+01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:14.000
+What I see is, oh somebody's paying attention to Jolie when he was on my stream.
+
+01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:19.000
+And they specifically titled it Watch Jolie Teach J.
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+01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:27.000
+So were they promoting me or they were promoting Jolie? Were they promoting my ideas and the biology that I teach?
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+01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:33.000
+Or were they teaching the biology and promoting the biology that Jolie teaches?
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+That's what I see.
+
+01:13:38.000 --> 01:13:42.000
+Call me paranoid, but you know that's how we're going to win.
+
+01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:50.000
+Because it's so divisive divided. You're going to be seen as just confusing the American public because now it looks like we don't know what we're doing, right?
+
+01:13:50.000 --> 01:13:53.000
+This person says this, the other person says that, but I don't know.
+
+01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:59.000
+My feeling on this is just tell the truth as you see it and because there are people who are going to appreciate that.
+
+01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:04.000
+And I think that's the way to do it, but I could be wrong. What do you think?
+
+01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:08.000
+Well, what do you think the public health officials should have done?
+
+01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:16.000
+Instead of saying this vaccine is better, should they have said, for example, we think it's better?
+
+01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:20.000
+Let's try it. What do you think they should have done?
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+Yes, this is what we're doing. It's just tell the whole story.
+
+01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:26.000
+We, Omicron has come into the United States.
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+01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:30.000
+Tell the whole story. Omicron has come into the United States.
+
+01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:41.000
+We need to start getting away from Wuhan. Well, but we don't want to get away from it immediately, which is what they're thinking was.
+
+01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:57.000
+So there it is. The whole faith right there in a nutshell. Now, make sure that you realize that what I am suggesting to you is where did I put it?
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+01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:07.000
+That he's not telling the whole story, right? If he was telling the whole story, oh, you demon.
+
+01:15:07.000 --> 01:15:19.000
+If he was telling the whole story, he might start maybe somewhere like this with a statement about why vaccines exist.
+
+01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:24.000
+The market for vaccines is driven by perception, not by actual need.
+
+01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:31.000
+Maybe you should start with that truth that Annie DeGroat gave us back in 2004.
+
+01:15:31.000 --> 01:15:46.000
+But he won't, of course, because again, this is a limited spectrum of debate, and it is a limited spectrum of debate that is bordered on all sides by a spectacular commitment to lies.
+
+01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:56.000
+And so that limited spectrum of debate right now is limited to a novel virus that has pandemicked around the world for the last three years, a whole recent version of which was called Omicron.
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+01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:59.000
+That's what this is right here, what you're listening to.
+
+01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:04.000
+So let's try this measure and see whether or not this is better.
+
+01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:12.000
+And then as data starts to roll out, they can say, well, I think we've learned a lesson here, a lesson that we will apply to future vaccines, which is what happened.
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+01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:22.000
+So in the following year, I this year, we don't, we no longer tether our vaccine to the Wuhan one strain. So what did you learn as you go, such as the nature of science, our eyes are open.
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+We're going to keep monitoring data. The good news is this boosters do boost this does boost. It looks like it boosts the same degree that the original strain did certainly no worse.
+
+01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:35.000
+It's important to get this vaccine in these groups for these reasons.
+
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+We will keep you posted as we continue to learn as we continue to have our eyes open. We will keep you posted in the most straightforward, honest way we can, knowing that there was a group of people in this country who will just cure you for doing that.
+
+01:16:50.000 --> 01:17:08.000
+So historically, you, you know, the history of public health and vaccination. Has this always been like this or were so what we always were always this divide between the science and the public health statement or was it better at one point.
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+It was much, much better at one point. And I, here's the example I would use. There we go. In 1955.
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+Five companies that were going to make Jonas Salk.
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+One of them made it particularly badly. So what Jonas Salk did took polio, grew it up in cell culture, purified it, killed it with the inactivating agent formaldehyde.
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+01:17:29.000 --> 01:17:34.000
+One company made it badly. They failed to inactivate the virus as a consequence.
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+01:17:35.000 --> 01:17:43.000
+The first and second graders in this country were inoculated with live fully virulent polio virus thinking it was the polio vaccine.
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+40,000 developed a board of polio, meaning short live temporary paralysis.
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+168 people, mostly children were permanently paralyzed and 10 were killed.
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+I think it was the worst biological disaster in this country's history.
+
+01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:06.000
+Now that went to court and the first trial was a trial of a little girl, actually, who's still alive, although suffering named and got stanker got stanker V cutter laboratories.
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+And what they did was the they presented all the data and what you saw was you saw that it wasn't only cutter that had a problem.
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+Why also had a problem in activating the virus and also made a vaccine that at least with one lot paralyzed and killed.
+
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+And then the other three companies all had trouble in activating the virus. It was a filtration problem. It was a mass production problem.
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+And I think that the jurors understood that the jurors wanted to find cutter not liable.
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+They wanted to find them not guilty because they saw it for what it was. They saw it as a process of evolution.
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+If it was a directed verdict, basically the judge said if you find that this vaccine did cause paralysis, you have to find them guilty.
+
+01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:53.000
+But if you listen to the voices in those exit interviews, those people, they trusted the government. They trusted the pharmaceutical companies.
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+01:18:53.000 --> 01:19:00.000
+They trusted the public health agencies to get it right. And then they saw it for what it was, which was a process of evolution.
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+01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:05.000
+And then the polio program was suspended for a couple of months and went back online and people trusted that.
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+01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:09.000
+That would never happen today. It's a much more divided time.
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+01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:19.000
+And I think what makes it so hard today are two things. I think one is social media, which is just a great place for awful and good information.
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+01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:27.000
+And I think also just the political environment of conspiracy theory has sort of risen to the mainstream.
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+01:19:27.000 --> 01:19:31.000
+So recently, you have been critical of the.
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+I think I missed it. So I want to go back a little bit because somewhere in there, he says that the problem with the shots was actually upscaling their manufacturing.
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+People, mostly children, were permanently paralyzed and 10 were killed. I think it was the worst biological disaster in this country's history.
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+Now that went to court. And the first trial was a trial of a little girl, actually, who's still alive, although suffering named in Gottsanker.
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+V cutter laboratories. And what they did was they presented all the data. And what you saw was you saw that it wasn't only cutter that had a problem.
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+01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:10.000
+Why also had a problem in activating the virus and also made a vaccine that at least with one lot paralyzed and killed.
+
+01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:17.000
+And then the other three companies all had trouble in activating the virus. It was a filtration problem. It was a mass production problem.
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+01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:28.000
+So a mass production problem that I guess Paul has never really thought about from the perspective of the mass production of the MRNA.
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+01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:39.000
+And you can almost see here, and I hope you can, where we might have two threads on both sides of the controlled sphere of debate.
+
+01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:46.000
+Honing in on this idea that mass production can result in quality control issues.
+
+01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:55.000
+And so my spidey senses tell me that he might even be trying to lay this narrative down on that side of the field.
+
+01:20:55.000 --> 01:21:03.000
+That the cutter incident was a case of manufacturing and quality control.
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+01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:08.000
+And when they tried to upscale the manufacturer, it was a filtration problem.
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+01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:21.000
+It doesn't sound that dissimilar to getting rid of the DNA, how it was described by Phillip Buckholts as being just another step they could have added.
+
+01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:42.000
+And so if my gut feeling is right here, there is a absolutely malevolent plan to just like the lab leak story to fool both sides of the seesaw into thinking that the worst case scenario was a lab leak and it may have happened.
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+01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:52.000
+We now may be trying to fool both sides of the seesaw that well, there were a lot of, there were some side effects.
+
+01:21:52.000 --> 01:22:07.000
+But the side effects might have been because like the polio vaccine, when it was first scaled up, we had some manufacturing problems and we're just going to have to be honest about it and say that the next generation of these vaccines is going to be better.
+
+01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:17.000
+That's where they may be going with this and you need to be vigilant as all get out to be sure that they don't do this.
+
+01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:24.000
+Oh my gosh, do we need to be vigilant that they do not do this?
+
+01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:36.000
+Because this will fool my parents, this will fool my brother and it'll be the same thing as the masks and the other stuff where they'll say that we just got lucky.
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+01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:43.000
+Even Sam Harris will say we got lucky with this virus, the next virus though, he won't get so lucky.
+
+01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:48.000
+It's coming ladies and gentlemen, it's coming.
+
+01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:52.000
+Oh, it's coming so rapidly, I can see it.
+
+01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:56.000
+I think that the jurors understood that.
+
+01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:59.000
+The jurors wanted to find Qatar not liable.
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+01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:03.000
+They wanted to find them not guilty because they saw it for what it was.
+
+01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:05.000
+They saw it as a process of evolution.
+
+01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:11.000
+If it was a directed verdict, basically the judge said if you find that this vaccine did cause paralysis, you have to find them guilty.
+
+01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:22.000
+But if you listen to the voices in those exit interviews, those people, they trusted the government, they trusted the pharmaceutical companies, they trusted the public health agencies to get it right.
+
+01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:31.000
+And then they saw it for what it was, which was a process of evolution and then the polio program was suspended for a couple of months and went back online and people trusted that.
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+01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:35.000
+That would never happen today. It's a much more divided time.
+
+01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:37.000
+And I think what makes it so hard today are two things.
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+01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:44.000
+I think one is social media, which is just a great place for awful and good information.
+
+01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:51.000
+And I think also just the political environment of conspiracy theory has sort of risen to the mainstream.
+
+01:23:52.000 --> 01:24:03.000
+More recently, you have been critical of the the CDC recommendation that everyone over what six months of age get this new fall.
+
+01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:07.000
+COVID vaccine, right, the XBB dot one dot five.
+
+01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:11.000
+And the same thing has happened. You've been criticized for being critical, right?
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+01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:19.000
+Right. And, you know, what's interesting is that, see, this is another to be a loss opportunity.
+
+01:24:19.000 --> 01:24:28.000
+Because many other countries, the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Australia, three Scandinavian countries, the World Health Organization have taken a different tact.
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+01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:33.000
+And that pact has been let's target high risk groups. So, so it wasn't my idea.
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+01:24:33.000 --> 01:24:41.000
+I mean, I thought, so the question is, what's the best way to convince those at greatest risk of serious disease to get the vaccine.
+
+01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:48.000
+And my attitude is, tell people, okay, here's who's getting hospitalized. Here's who's dying. Here's why we need to vaccinate these groups.
+
+01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:57.000
+And that's the best way to get those groups vaccinated. But I think the public health officials here anyway, think that the best way to do it is to say everybody should get it.
+
+01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:01.000
+And I don't know who's right. I mean, maybe they're right. Maybe I'm right.
+
+01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:06.000
+Or maybe all these other countries here doing it that way, right? But again, hammered. That was when I was actually asked to be on Newsmax.
+
+01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:16.000
+I don't know if you've ever watched Newsmax. It's like a Saturday Night Live spoof of conservative television. I mean, it's just, it's out landishly to one side.
+
+01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:21.000
+And I think I really disappointed that when I went on there, because they thought I wasn't who they had imagined me to be.
+
+01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:31.000
+I mean, somehow I got moved into the category of a nay-saying doctor. When I don't think I'm that at all, I think I'm just trying to figure out what the best way is to do this.
+
+01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:46.000
+But again, if the reason that we're doing this, that we're saying everybody should get it, is because we are worried that by not doing that, that there are going to be certain groups who aren't going to get covered by private insurance, like someone who lives in the home of someone who's at that high risk.
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+01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:51.000
+Or someone who works in nursing home. Then say that. Just say it. Be honest with the American public.
+
+01:25:52.000 --> 01:26:03.000
+Knowing that there's going to be people who will not understand what you're saying, who will be confused by what you're saying. But I think there are many people out there who will appreciate that honesty. I do think that.
+
+01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:08.000
+But again, I'm an Eagle season ticket holder, so I'm going to ridiculously optimistic person.
+
+01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:19.000
+Do you think when you question the science, do you think you're really encouraging anti-vaxxers, which is one of the things you've been accused of?
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+01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:32.000
+I think it does seem to play out that way. I mean, only in that what you've done is you have not completely agreed with everything that's being said by public health agencies. And so to them, they see that fissure. They see that crack.
+
+01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:48.000
+And they say, aha, see these public health agencies don't know what they're talking about. And here's someone who's saying that. I mean, I got a letter from a pretty virulent anti-vaccine activist who said that she's been praying for me for years, me and my family for years, and now finally
+
+01:26:48.000 --> 01:27:04.000
+there's a contral. This is not a good thing. No, it's not good at all. Well, you know, if you look at some of the comments to your post here on beyond the noise, you can see right away people are just distrustful of CDC of FDA.
+
+01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:15.000
+You know, no matter what you say in your column, they still don't trust them. And so that's something that has to be fixed. And I don't know how to do that.
+
+01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:38.000
+I don't think it's terribly fixable. I think there's going to be a certain percentage of people who will always feel that way. And I guess, for me, the, I guess, the point, the flex point for that evolution was vaccines cause autism. So a paper was published late 1990s, claiming that, you know, the, the MMR, measles, mumps, rubella vaccine cause autism and to the credit of the public health agency to the credit of
+
+01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:51.000
+academicians, academicians, pediatricians, many studies were done, causing tens of millions of dollars to almost calls them a catamajicians, which I really think is a word we should all start using.
+
+01:27:51.000 --> 01:28:04.000
+I was using it on Twitter. I'm going to take credit for having made that up. I made that word up.
+
+01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:19.000
+I'm a catamajician. So it's like an academic, but I'm a magician, right? It's an academic edition. And I think it's really an adequate way to describe how these people wield science.
+
+01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:28.000
+They are snake oil salesman disguised as scientists. So they're catamajicians. And the academy has taught them to do it.
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+01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:40.000
+I'm one of the few people that has gone all the way under the water of academia and tried my best to swim in that water.
+
+01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:49.000
+And the people that are in academia will say that the reason why I'm so salty about it is because I couldn't swim in it.
+
+01:28:49.000 --> 01:29:03.000
+But I will say, yes, I couldn't swim in it. But I think the reason why I couldn't swim in it is because the water of academia teaches you to be an academy magician, which is not a scientist.
+
+01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:13.000
+It's not a biologist. It's not an experimentalist. It's not someone who tests hypotheses, but it is someone who makes the sausage.
+
+01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:32.000
+And Paul Offit is somebody who makes the sausage. Paul Offit is somebody who really doesn't want you to know how the sausage is made. It's kind of like the pink slime that's in 70% of all the ground beef in America that the FDA and the USDA don't want you to know is in there.
+
+01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:43.000
+And the people that maintain that, well, it's there, but we don't talk about it. They're the same kind of people, the lookaway doctrine followed by these people.
+
+01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:48.000
+It's okay to lie to us because we are being governed by these lies.
+
+01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:54.000
+Just like it's okay to lie to your kids about Santa Claus, so they're going to be good.
+
+01:29:54.000 --> 01:30:05.000
+Just like it's okay to lie to your kids about the tooth fairy, just like it's okay to lie and fake it until you make it in America right now. It's okay to lie about vaccines.
+
+01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:12.000
+It's okay to lie about public health because lies are okay nowadays.
+
+01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:21.000
+And that's how you know that our civilization is being destroyed from the inside because I'm not a liar. I was never raised to be a liar.
+
+01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:25.000
+I was raised by liars.
+
+01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:31.000
+I've grown up in a culture of lying.
+
+01:30:31.000 --> 01:30:39.000
+And when I was a young man in high school and in college, I swam in that water too.
+
+01:30:39.000 --> 01:30:44.000
+But my biggest lie was having a fake ID.
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+01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:48.000
+These are people who have faked it until they made it.
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+01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:58.000
+Some of them are faking an entire field because faking it makes it.
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+01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:07.000
+We need to wake up, ladies and gentlemen, because our children are being misled as long as we are not adequately opposing this.
+
+01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:13.000
+As long as we are not actively teaching our children to see this, they won't see it.
+
+01:31:13.000 --> 01:31:18.000
+And they won't know that we see it.
+
+01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:27.000
+We must teach our children this college kids right now are so vulnerable to this kind of nonsense.
+
+01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:34.000
+And because of social media and how it's fractured our dinner tables, our children are so vulnerable to this.
+
+01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:40.000
+You have to talk to your children every day about this.
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+01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:46.000
+The only way we're going to win is we raise our children to not believe this mythology.
+
+01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:53.000
+That's the task at hand. It's not to convince your neighbors.
+
+01:31:53.000 --> 01:32:00.000
+The task at hand is not to necessarily get elected to your local council. That's a good idea too.
+
+01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:06.000
+The real task that everybody has is to teach our children not to trust these people.
+
+01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:15.000
+And more importantly, to understand the biology so that that mistrust is placed and objectively based.
+
+01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:18.000
+We don't want to replace one boogeyman with another one.
+
+01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:25.000
+We don't want to replace Santa Claus with with Paul Offit.
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+01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:36.000
+We want to replace Paul Offit with the sacred biology that is our perfect children.
+
+01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:40.000
+Born perfect.
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+01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:43.000
+That's not part of this man's philosophy.
+
+01:32:43.000 --> 01:32:47.000
+Answer that question. Are you more likely to get autism if you've gotten that vaccine or not?
+
+01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:49.000
+And that convinced most people.
+
+01:32:49.000 --> 01:32:53.000
+I mean, most parents are children with autism. We're convinced by that, but not all.
+
+01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:59.000
+So there's still a solid 10 to 15% that still hold on to that notion, even though it's clearly been shown not to be true.
+
+01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:02.000
+And I think that's the group that are the conspiracy theorists.
+
+01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:05.000
+And conspiracy theorists theory now is just part of the mainstream.
+
+01:33:05.000 --> 01:33:09.000
+I mean, you hear in theory responsible congressmen using the term deep state all the time.
+
+01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:15.000
+So it's that's what you're up against. That in social media makes this a very steep hill to climb.
+
+01:33:15.000 --> 01:33:21.000
+So what are you doing going forward, Paul? If you see another vaccine that doesn't scientifically make sense,
+
+01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:26.000
+are you going to speak out or is this tending to quiet you down?
+
+01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:29.000
+No, I think we just did that.
+
+01:33:29.000 --> 01:33:34.000
+With the maternal RSV vaccine, there are some questions about that vaccine.
+
+01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:37.000
+And I think although it is now a licensed product, it's not a recommended product.
+
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+I think it's fair to say some of the questions and concerns that did come up in discussions both at the FDA vaccine
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+to vice committee and the ACIP advisory committee.
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+The
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+And for understandable reasons, because the minute you really tell all and you show what science is, which is always a process of evolution.
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+01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:07.000
+And you never know everything. And you are learning as you go.
+
+01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:14.000
+That is frightening to people because especially at the beginning of this pandemic, you know, when the virus was killing 2,000 people a day, 3,000 people a day,
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+01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:18.000
+you want people to believe you know everything you need to know you don't.
+
+01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:24.000
+And we didn't. You didn't know about myocarditis as a rare consequence of the mRNA vaccine.
+
+01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:27.000
+This is evolution.
+
+01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:30.000
+And you never know everything. And you are learning as you go.
+
+01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:38.000
+That is frightening to people because especially at the beginning of this pandemic, you know, when the virus was killing 2,000 people a day, 3,000 people a day.
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+01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:41.000
+You know everything.
+
+01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:51.000
+So that was a narrative reinforcing statement there, right? That was a faith testament because there was a novel virus for which we knew nothing that everybody was vulnerable to.
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+01:34:52.000 --> 01:35:03.000
+Those are the subverses of that main tenant of the faith that there was a novel virus for which everybody was vulnerable and we knew nothing.
+
+01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:09.000
+It is so important that you hear that because that's what he's doing.
+
+01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:15.000
+You need to know when you don't. And we didn't. You didn't know about myocarditis as a rare consequence of the mRNA vaccine.
+
+01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:22.000
+You didn't know about a severe clotting, including clotting the brain with the J&J Johnson and Johnson vaccine, which ultimately drove that vaccine off the market.
+
+01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:34.000
+There you go. Another instant layout there where the J&J shot was pulled off the market because ultimately the safety signal was too great.
+
+01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:43.000
+We had to pull it off. That's another wonderful enchantment because the subconscious message there is that the mRNA saved millions of people.
+
+01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:49.000
+The mRNA worked great. The clotting was only in the J&J shot people.
+
+01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:58.000
+It's a magnificent psychological operation that is being done on us every time these two guys speak.
+
+01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:07.000
+And it's not so much as a scripted thing as it is something that Paul Offit has rehearsed for his entire career.
+
+01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:19.000
+And he's now just kind of shifted this shtick to fit the current parameters of the narrative that he's now defending with regard to the pandemic.
+
+01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:27.000
+Oh my goodness is this guy awful. Paul Offit.
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+01:36:27.000 --> 01:36:36.000
+We haven't used that vaccine here since May. You learn as you go. It's always true. And I think we just have to make that clear that this is the beauty of science in many ways.
+
+01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:42.000
+It's open-mindedness. It's willingness to change as we learn as we go. And people just have trouble accepting that.
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+01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:50.000
+I mean, Dr. Fauci has probably been the biggest target in all this as, for example, masking recommendations changed or other things changed.
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+01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:56.000
+I think he was a victim of that learning as we go problem.
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+01:36:56.000 --> 01:37:06.000
+It's always hard to combine science and public health, right? They have slightly different objectives and in a pandemic, it exacerbates the whole situation.
+
+01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:18.000
+This is not going to change anything soon, anytime soon, unfortunately, because as you said, this country is polarized and it's partly the Internet, partly politics and many other things as well.
+
+01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:28.000
+And all we can do is, as you have always said, let's look at the data. Let's make sure the data tell us what to do, or at least we follow them. I think that's the key.
+
+01:37:28.000 --> 01:37:37.000
+And tell the truth, as at least as you see it. I mean, I'm telling you who I see it. I may not be right, but I, you know, because you have to be true to yourself and trust it.
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+01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:50.000
+I think in this section of the American public does appreciate seeing it as it is, which is a process of evolution and knowledge.
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+You've made the perfect point. I think I got a pandemic. And I think I think I need to record a laugh track. I had one, but I was just using like a YouTube video in the background. I think I have to record it, get it on my board here.
+
+01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:18.000
+Because more than, more than, stop lying. I actually think a laugh track would be more useful. Maybe I should get a couple different ones. I'll see if I can get some from, from some good recordings. I think that's really important.
+
+01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:36.000
+Because going forward, we need to have more ammunition like that that makes it more fun to do this stuff because it is painful. It is really painful to listen to this nightly, even though I do think it is very necessary.
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+Ladies and gentlemen, they who declared a pandemic of a dangerous novel virus said to be detectable by a nonspecific PCR test for RNA viruses applied to a low prevalence population and intentionally correlated with poor.
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+01:38:48.000 --> 01:39:01.000
+Poor detrimental health protocols through financial incentives that enabled a larger percentage of all cause mortality than pneumonia and influenza to be prioritized as a national security threat composed of a vaccine preventable deaths.
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+01:39:01.000 --> 01:39:16.000
+The US was ready with a plan to respond to a coronavirus pandemic and that plan is in motion. The NIAID may have funded an infectious clone that may or may not have been involved in the initial biological incident, but a natural coronavirus swarm cannot pandemic.
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+01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:31.000
+Notice that I'm not out of breath. Notice that I'm not running out of breath after four words. And notice that when I suck in, you don't hear.
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+All I can say is thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord.
+
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+The whole is a total surrender of individual sovereignty and enforcement of a global fundamental inversion from basic human rights to basic granted permissions.
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+01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:54.000
+The way that they did this is with an illusion of consensus about pandemic potential in laboratories and bat caves.
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+01:39:54.000 --> 01:40:01.000
+And this illusion of consensus included a worst case scenario being laboratory bio weapon.
+
+01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:15.000
+And so that narrative has been seeded since the very beginning of the pandemic because the worst case scenario is what gets everybody to be afraid. It gets everybody to move and it gets everybody to justify all of the crazy decisions that were made.
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+01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:18.000
+It's cover.
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+01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:29.000
+And this illusion of consensus can be summarized by this statement. There was a novel virus millions died and were saved gain a function is real and a virus will come again.
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+When I say millions died and millions were saved, I mean exactly that. You don't need to have a particular explanation for what you mean by that statement as long as you mean that millions died of a virus and millions could have been saved or were saved depending on what you're talking about.
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+01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:53.000
+The lockdowns save people, masking save people, closing the school save people, rolling out the mRNA save people.
+
+01:40:53.000 --> 01:41:02.000
+Ivermectin might have saved people using hydroxychloroquine might have saved more people, telling people to take vitamin D and zinc might have saved more people.
+
+01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:05.000
+This is the narrative.
+
+01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:19.000
+And the way that they pulled this off is to make the equivalence between excess deaths and the mystery virus from the very beginning by excluding the all cause mortality here visible in light blue and instead telling us the story with the red graph below.
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+Never telling us that a huge portion of that red graph was actually composed of pneumonia that had never killed this many people in the history of the world.
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+As is evidenced by this darker blue graph here year on year, staying way below 10,000 people per year and now skyrocketing during the pandemic to as many as triple.
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+The reason why they're able to do this is because they don't do the math where they subtract all the mistakes they make like do not resuscitate orders and ventilators.
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+good evening ladies and gentlemen welcome to the show this is Giga Home Biological a high-resistance low-noise information brief brought to you by a biologist
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+my name is Jonathan Cooley and I'm coming to you from live from the back of my garage in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
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+transfection of healthy humans is criminally negligent I think that's a great way to speak but if you want to make one statement not two I think we can also say it this way
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+so unlike pharmaceuticals for which present illness drives demand it is the perception of risk of diseases that creates a desire for vaccination
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+this is written in 2004 this is what they say behind closed doors when they admit that this is a business
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+when they admit that yeah you know water sanitation washing hands and soap and this kind of stuff yeah it made a big difference
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+yeah aseptic technique that made a big difference yep antibiotics huge difference yep better medicine better treatments
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+better food better nutrition all made a big difference yep yep but in front of the camera and in front of the grant committee
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+they usually say that well you know vaccines are the best thing ever you know it's like the pyramids and vaccines and airplanes
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+best inventions like just a short list
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+and so that's how you can tell that these people are full of it that's how you can tell if you look at somebody like Peter McCullough who's come from
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+you know being full blown allopathic just mainstream doctor to being on podcasts now saying that if he was raising a kid now he wouldn't have any vaccines in that kid
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+now that's progress that's growth that's realizing the reality in front of you and the consequences of all of the data points that you have in front of you
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+there's no other conclusion to come to and it's really important to realize that in this Scooby-Doo everybody's going to have to come to their own realization of how bad it is
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+and when Peter McCullough was on my stream he hadn't yet come that far he might have come that far in private but not in person and everybody I'm predicting everybody is going to have to come that far
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+and if you don't make it you will be part of the trap you will be part of the reason why humanity is lost
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+because coming to that realization that realization that is that is really described perfectly by Peter McCullough saying that you know if I was to start all over again and have kids again I don't think I would I would forgo the vaccine schedule
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+so that's giant and right now the Scooby-Doo and all of the people who have perpetuated the Scooby-Doo on us whatever the right word is enacted it in order to fool our children
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+those people are in their last place the theater is a visible thing now the bricks are visible some of the lights are out
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+some of the theater lights have come on and so the the production is being exposed it's really just a question of how stubborn is the majority of the members of the audience and how can we force them to see it to acknowledge it
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+that we were duped that we were duped by our whole government by that even that performance by Rand Paul and Tony Fauci in 2020 was a duping they did that to us
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+that wasn't two guys acting like good guys trying to do their best to figure it out and Tony was lying to Rand
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+that was a performance that was a carefully orchestrated performance and it was designed to do exactly what it did solidify the support for Fauci on all the people who were on his team
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+and solidify the support against or the opposition to Fauci in this the suspicion of a lab leak cover up on the other side
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+and make both of those teams convinced that they are right
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+it was the one of the most beautiful things I had ever seen
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+and as I watched it live I knew it was baloney
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+but I couldn't quite understand how the baloney was being used I couldn't understand it as a Scooby-Doo that they were fooling an entire planet
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+into thinking that they were catching a liar or that a hero was being mistreated and no matter which narrative you chose you lose
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+because then you have chosen that there is a novel virus it's definitely killing a lot of people we definitely need to do something
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+it's probably going to function it could come again you accepted it all we including me accepted it all
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+and we spent two years arguing about that
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+well a lot of us did I spent about four months arguing about that before I realized that that argument meant nothing
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+because the biology of coronavirus the biology of RNA viruses doesn't support the idea of a pandemic
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+it doesn't support the idea of a uniformly spreading RNA signal over multiple years and multiple waves
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+there's no support for this there's no biological basis for this other than the stories that are told and introductions
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+and discussions of a few science papers scientific papers around the world that's it
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+you can't even really find the biology that supports this in a in anything but but an introduction where they are where they are waxing intellectual about things that don't exist
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+but what we're starting to learn from this pattern and I think it's really important to see this what we're learning from this pattern is that we may have been governed like this for many decades
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+and they just have lied about other things in the same way that we're starting to wake up to the idea that what if what if other government proceedings have been performances
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+what if other government scandals have been performances what if other other government controversies have been performances
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+and that's where this whole narrative starts to fall apart that's where we as Americans need to start to take responsibility for governing our country again
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+we've got to take responsibility and take back our republic again
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+because we can't expect them to do it because remember the people that coming to the rescue are also part of the show
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+until we are rescuing ourselves we are allowing the show to continue
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+I want you to watch this video again because I want to remind you of the kind of semantic war that they are waging on us
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+the big problem in vaccines has been that while it's been possible in the past to make vaccines against viruses that cause acute self-limited infections
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+that's mostly been done by making either an attenuated or killed virus
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+which induces an immune response that mimics the immune response that you get to the natural infection because the natural infection will give you lifelong or at least long lasting immunity
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+but now what's left are viruses that cause chronic infections or cancer that causes chronic disease
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+where the disease itself does not induce an adequate response to get protection
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+so now the vaccine has to be better than the virus or the cancer itself
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+so we have to develop new ways again
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+so it's very important to see how deceptive what he just said is
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+and it is actually one of the best soundbite examples that I've ever found of this particular point
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+which is really pervasive across this whole narrative
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+the idea is that we can augment the immune system to respond to any disease
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+it's the immune system we have to augment
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+it can't be and therefore we use the word vaccine to describe the intent to augment the immune system
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+and so what they have done is essentially cast an enchantment
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+wherein the use of the word vaccine or the characterization of something as a disease implies a certain rubric of faith
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+if I call it a disease that means there must be a cure
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+if I call it a disease that means there might be a vaccine
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+if I call it a disease you need my medicine
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+now we I think this is a really important point to make even if I'm beating a dead horse here
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+but it's really it's a it's a distinction that we are allowing them to blur
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+where actually vaccine and this is how he said it
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+traditionally vaccines were made of a weakened or a dead virus
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+and it mimicked the infection well enough so that the
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+immunity produced by the vaccine was equivalent to or very close to equivalent to protection from exposure to the disease or infection itself
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+the immune memory that's generated by infection was very similar to the immune memory generated by the live attenuated vaccine
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+but we can't make a live attenuated vaccine against cancer
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+we can't make a live attenuated vaccine against a genetic disorder
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+we can't make a live attenuated vaccine against diabetes
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+but if we call diabetes a disease now we can you know all diseases have potentially a vaccine
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+it's just that this disease doesn't produce an adequate immune response
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+you see he's he's suggesting something based on an assumption that is not biologically proven
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+that cancer for example is always caused by viruses so because cancer is a disease caused by a pathogen
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+and you are the host then you need a vaccine to prevent that pathogen from causing disease in you
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+but it's a surprisingly small number of cancers which are associated directly with causally to a virus
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+and when we try to make a vaccine against a cancer we're actually trying to point T cell memory at a protein which is unique for the cancer
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+it's not a failure of the immune system so much as usually a camouflage of the cancer because the cancer is made of self cells
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+so the immune system can't really see it
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+so this is a very deceptive language bait and switch that has been going on for decades that they have been working for decades
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+and it probably all goes all the way back to as far as Robert Gallo and Murray Gardner
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+and all of these people like David Baltimore who were involved in the early stages of HIV retroviruses
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+and cancer causing viruses in this whole theory of what viruses do
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+and so what I'm suggesting to you is that this mythology was purposefully created over many decades
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+so that the public health exercise that we've been through for the last three years was possible
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+and they almost, this almost was derailed, it was almost derailed once on 9-11
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+and you'll have to watch Usatonic Live and look at his long catalogue of this to understand what I'm suggesting here
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+but it could be that 9-11 was supposed to be a biological attack and somehow or another it ended up to be just a terrorist attack
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+and anyway the point is that we have been on a long progression, a long plan to controlled demolish America
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+and I think David Griffin could also tell us a lot about the financial aspects of this controlled demolition of the American system
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+and the freedom that it represents, the Constitution itself is going to be under assault
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+once the financial and societal fabric starts to rip
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+and if we want to address this problem it's going to have to rip
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+we're going to have to come together as a country in a different way than we are now
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+and love our neighbors in a way that we are not doing now
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+in order for America to make it through on the other side as America in some new form
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+based on truth and justice and the American way
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+whatever that used to be
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+so vaccination is a methodology that will work as a methodology, excuse me, that will work on everything
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+and that's the argument that he's making now
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+he's making it with the words that he wants to use in order so that we transfer the value of vaccination to as much disease as possible
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+in fact he is exercising this enchantment of
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+if I say disease, you say cure, disease, cure, disease, cure
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+if I say disease, you say vaccine, vaccine, disease, disease, vaccine
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+it's an enchantment
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+and he might only be reciting it because he's under this enchantment
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+but I think that at a certain moment
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+you as an academic and academic magician
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+you become smart enough to know that this sales pitch is that what it is, it's a sales pitch
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+and if you're making a sales pitch about vaccines it's a little different
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+than making a sales pitch about your little niche research that you know isn't going to save the world
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+but it's really important for you to study the pigmentation
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+and chemical steps in the chloroplast function in a particular diatom
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+and you know that that's not really important
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+but you talk it really up in your introduction
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+and when you're interviewing for a faculty job
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+but that's your passion, that's your biology
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+and so you exaggerate a little bit
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+you know these diatoms are found all around the oceans
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+and they're important in every ecosystem that has salt water
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+and they're responsible for converting more than you know gigatons of carbon every year
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+but nobody cares about diatoms
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+but you're not selling anything
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+you're not misleading the young into believing something that's not true
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+you're not contributing to the governance of an entire society by lies
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+you're just really enthusiastic about your biology
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+and you want people to understand how important it is to the collective whole
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+but when you're a biologist who's saying something like this guy saying
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+you've got to know that this is a sales pitch of BS
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+that is doing an end around the traditional idea of how a drug or a pharmaceutical is brought to market safely
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+and that your intention is to inject anything you want intramuscularly
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+with the intent of augmenting the immune system with no responsibility for when it goes wrong
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+and you know that the only way that you can get away with doing this
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+and have a hope of making something of this genetic technology work
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+is if you get people to allow you to do it
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+not everybody in this machine knows exactly how bad it is
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+but everybody in this machine knows exactly that it's bad
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+that it's lies
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+that it's gross exaggerations
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+that there are thousands and billions and millions and billions of dollars
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+exchanging hands
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+based on these exaggerations
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+these oversimplifications
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+and so he can look into the camera
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+and with his fancy pink lanyardon with his sudon
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+with his NIH job
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+and talk all this stuff with these words
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+and be as imprecise as he wants to
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+knowing full well that what he is doing is casting an enchantment
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+he is enchanting everyone in the future
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+as part of this illusion of consensus
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+that these are diseases and all diseases have cures
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+and the best cures are vaccines
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+it's a really simple enchantment
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+all these things are diseases
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+diseases have cures and cures the best ones we have are vaccines
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+so I work on vaccines
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+chronic infections like HIV or hepatitis C for example
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+and I think more and more strategies are being developed to target those
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+very similar to the ones I just talked about for cancer vaccines
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+and I think hopefully within the next 5 to 10 years
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+we will have vaccines for those diseases
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+but of course at this point that's hope
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+that's not nothing guaranteed, not promised
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+I think one is
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+and it's very similar to saying that this diagram means nothing
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+that we can effectively ignore this diagram
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+just like we can ignore any possible safety signals in
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+transfection and healthy children
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+we can ignore this diagram
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+and we can also ignore these people
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+right?
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+we can ignore these people
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+I have a lot of people that made graphics
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+designs for the trailer
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+from all over Canada and Australia
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+but it was just about junior
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+I said no this trailer is not about just junior
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+I said it's about junior and all the vaccine injured
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+that we have because there's thousands of it
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+people look at the trailer and they'll tell me
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+that's a lot of people I said no it's not
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+that's not even a little bit
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+I said there's more
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+I said I would need 18 wheelers
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+to put everyone's picture on it
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+that thing is
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+I don't want to make the pictures too small
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+I want people to actually be able to see the faces
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+of each person that's on here
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+my whole mission now
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+you know bring awareness to all the families
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+because I don't want to get any emails
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+text messages anymore
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+I get them from all over the world
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+I don't need to be proud of it
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+juniorsguardianvoices.com
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+and juniorsguardianvoices.com
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+I walked to that side door
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+I was sitting up in a
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+it was like a life-size picture
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+and I started crying because I could almost
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+feel like I could hug them
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+and I was thinking I'd be proud of it
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+if I don't do what I'm doing
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+I can hear them telling me
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+you know you need to practice what you preach
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+so that's why I have to keep doing this
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+thanks for putting that link in there
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+well it's about the first year
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+I was ready to give up
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+I didn't think I was accomplishing anything
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+I didn't think it was getting out there
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+and for some reason I was going through my file box
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+and I found a father state card
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+the last of my last father state card
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+and now I just started crying
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+for probably about three or four hours on the couch
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+I figured that was his way of telling me to
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+don't give up
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+to keep up fighting
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+and that's the same one I have on the back of my motorcycle
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+I figured well
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+I found it
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+I got to put it on my bike
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+to remind me why I'm doing this
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+he cried when he talked about his son
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+because you don't lose his son
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+and stop crying about it
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+I can cry about it
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+I don't have a loss to son
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+I just have them
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+you only have to have them to know
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+that this guy might possibly be feeling
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+and I show this video
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+not only because I want you to know about his website
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+but I really want you to see
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+that this guy is organized around everybody
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+he wants all these peoples justice
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+and I think we need to really
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+and yet there's no doubt
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+because of one and two and three
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+58:23.000 --> 58:26.000
+that we are not precise here
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+58:26.000 --> 58:29.000
+so the protein produced is uncharacterized
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+58:29.000 --> 58:33.000
+and highly variable again because of three, four and five
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+58:33.000 --> 58:36.000
+that means that the immune response
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+58:36.000 --> 58:39.000
+that's being generated by this bouquet of variability
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+58:39.000 --> 58:41.000
+is not very predictable either
+
+58:42.000 --> 58:44.000
+it's pretty predictable from the standpoint
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+58:44.000 --> 58:46.000
+of when they tell you to check it this way
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+58:46.000 --> 58:48.000
+yeah sure it works
+
+58:48.000 --> 58:50.000
+that's like saying you know
+
+58:50.000 --> 58:52.000
+did you use the car last night
+
+58:52.000 --> 58:54.000
+to your teenage daughter
+
+58:54.000 --> 58:56.000
+and she says no I didn't
+
+58:56.000 --> 58:57.000
+well what's your proof?
+
+58:57.000 --> 58:59.000
+well you know look in the driver's seat
+
+58:59.000 --> 59:02.000
+there's no Chick-fil-A
+
+59:02.000 --> 59:05.000
+is that proof?
+
+59:06.000 --> 59:08.000
+and in this case what we're talking about here
+
+59:08.000 --> 59:11.000
+is them saying something like well
+
+59:11.000 --> 59:14.000
+you know the spike protein works
+
+59:14.000 --> 59:17.000
+I mean when we use our own assay
+
+59:17.000 --> 59:21.000
+to test whether there's any spike protein produced by the M R&A
+
+59:21.000 --> 59:24.000
+our assay says it works great
+
+59:24.000 --> 59:27.000
+well if your daughter's assay
+
+59:27.000 --> 59:29.000
+for whether she used the car or not
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+59:29.000 --> 59:31.000
+is the one that's in the car
+
+59:31.000 --> 59:34.000
+if your daughter's assay for whether she used the car or not
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+59:34.000 --> 59:36.000
+is the one that you accept
+
+59:36.000 --> 59:39.000
+then she can say yeah there's no Chick-fil-A in the front seat
+
+59:39.000 --> 59:41.000
+so obviously I didn't use the car
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+59:41.000 --> 59:43.000
+and then you got to go oh I guess you're right
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+59:43.000 --> 59:44.000
+you didn't use the car
+
+59:44.000 --> 59:46.000
+well we used our test
+
+59:46.000 --> 59:48.000
+to find that spike protein is produced
+
+59:48.000 --> 59:51.000
+when we when we transfect cells in a dish
+
+59:51.000 --> 59:53.000
+so obviously it works right
+
+59:53.000 --> 59:56.000
+it's the same argument
+
+59:56.000 --> 59:58.000
+it's the same level of proof
+
+59:59.000 --> 01:00:03.000
+and so the LNP was never really tested in humans
+
+01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:05.000
+for long or short-term effects
+
+01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:07.000
+we just take the word of Peter Cullis
+
+01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:08.000
+that it works great
+
+01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:11.000
+but we can't really target it anywhere
+
+01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:14.000
+endotoxins from process two
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+01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.000
+those are the bacteria
+
+01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.000
+and the remnants of the bacteria
+
+01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:19.000
+after they've been lised
+
+01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:21.000
+you can't clean that up very well
+
+01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:23.000
+and again it's compounded by the fact
+
+01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:25.000
+that you're not making small batch
+
+01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:27.000
+you're making large batch
+
+01:00:27.000 --> 01:00:29.000
+and in that large batch
+
+01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:31.000
+it's even harder to get contaminants out
+
+01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:32.000
+when you're rushing it out
+
+01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:34.000
+when you're bottling
+
+01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.000
+millions of small vials
+
+01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:38.000
+there's all kinds of variability
+
+01:00:38.000 --> 01:00:40.000
+potential there again
+
+01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:44.000
+these are all compounding problems
+
+01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:47.000
+and we still haven't really gotten
+
+01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:49.000
+to the double-stranded fragments
+
+01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:51.000
+from process one until right now
+
+01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.000
+at number nine
+
+01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:56.000
+and so my argument is
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+01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:59.000
+hopefully I'm not too far from the microphone right now
+
+01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:00.000
+but the argument is
+
+01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:02.000
+is that number nine
+
+01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:06.000
+is one of many many many reasons
+
+01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:08.000
+to reject
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+01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.000
+transfection in healthy humans
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+01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:12.000
+the first one being
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+01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:14.000
+the transfection in its purest form
+
+01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:17.000
+is wholly inappropriate for healthy humans
+
+01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:19.000
+and number one
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+01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:22.000
+is the reason why they were criminally negligent
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+not number nine
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+01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:26.000
+they are criminally negligent
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+01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:28.000
+because they have known that
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+01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:30.000
+transfection in its purest form
+
+01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.000
+would be wholly inappropriate for healthy humans
+
+01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:34.000
+they have known that upscaling
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+01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:36.000
+from nanograms to kilograms
+
+01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.000
+was going to be a disaster
+
+01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:40.000
+they have known that the RNA was impure
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+01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:42.000
+they have known that the codon optimizing
+
+01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:43.000
+would cause variability
+
+01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:44.000
+they couldn't predict
+
+01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:46.000
+they have known that chemically
+
+01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:48.000
+altering this mRNA would cause it to last
+
+01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:50.000
+much longer than intended
+
+01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:52.000
+and could even produce small fragments of RNA
+
+01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:55.000
+that could interfere with our own endogenous transcripts
+
+01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:56.000
+they have known
+
+01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:58.000
+that the protein is wholly uncharacterized
+
+01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.000
+as a prodrug and should have definitely been treated as such
+
+01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:03.000
+they have known that the LNP
+
+01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:06.000
+was not tested adequately in humans
+
+01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:09.000
+and so the criminal negligence
+
+01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:11.000
+that we need to be targeting
+
+01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:13.000
+is not number nine
+
+01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:15.000
+and we are being misled
+
+01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:17.000
+that number nine is our opening
+
+01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:19.000
+number nine is our big window
+
+01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:24.000
+or is the spike toxic
+
+01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:25.000
+maybe that's our big window
+
+01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:28.000
+maybe we should be angry because they chose the wrong protein
+
+01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:31.000
+we were being told that for more than a year
+
+01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:36.000
+we were being told that the spike is toxic
+
+01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:38.000
+and that we chose the wrong protein
+
+01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:40.000
+for a year
+
+01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:43.000
+and the only reason why we are still not being told
+
+01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:47.000
+that very thing is because of giga ohm biological
+
+01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:50.000
+that's what I believe
+
+01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:54.000
+and so this list is important to understand
+
+01:02:54.000 --> 01:02:57.000
+because this is the argument that I want to make
+
+01:02:57.000 --> 01:02:59.000
+repeatedly over the next weeks
+
+01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:01.000
+until Christmas until the new year
+
+01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:04.000
+and I believe
+
+01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:06.000
+wittingly or unwittingly
+
+01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:09.000
+these people are involved in sustaining that
+
+01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:11.000
+they are involved in sustaining this
+
+01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:13.000
+imaginary tunnel we're in
+
+01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:15.000
+where there was a novel virus
+
+01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:17.000
+that killed millions of people
+
+01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:21.000
+but thank goodness we saved millions too
+
+01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:23.000
+and gain a function obviously is real
+
+01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:25.000
+because these people were lying about it
+
+01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:27.000
+covering it up by mean man oh man
+
+01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:29.000
+it's obvious now
+
+01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:31.000
+and so we've got to be careful because the virus
+
+01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:34.000
+will definitely come again
+
+01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:37.000
+and we cannot let our children
+
+01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:40.000
+grow up in this world
+
+01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:43.000
+but it is
+
+01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:45.000
+keeping the narrative alive
+
+01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:47.000
+the show must go on and it's not a matter of what true
+
+01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:49.000
+that counts it's a matter of what's perceived to be true
+
+01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:52.000
+so these people are still working
+
+01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:54.000
+Paul Offitt is still working
+
+01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:56.000
+and the Twiv crew is still working
+
+01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:59.000
+so I wanted to watch a little bit of Twiv tonight
+
+01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:03.000
+because I think it's fun to watch these guys
+
+01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:06.000
+and this episode has a number of different papers
+
+01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:08.000
+that they cover in it
+
+01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:11.000
+but the paper that I wanted to look at
+
+01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:13.000
+is an HPV paper
+
+01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:15.000
+where they look at viral prevalence
+
+01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:19.000
+and they make some argument about the HPV vaccine
+
+01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:21.000
+so I will be very honest
+
+01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:25.000
+I didn't know a lot about the HPV vaccine
+
+01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:27.000
+until I saw Vaxxed too
+
+01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:29.000
+and it was actually just in time
+
+01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.000
+for me not to give it to my children
+
+01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:34.000
+the first time that it was offered to my boys
+
+01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:37.000
+we were already knew not to say it
+
+01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:39.000
+not to take it
+
+01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:44.000
+but it is very disturbing to me
+
+01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:48.000
+that they are now pushing the HPV vaccine harder than ever
+
+01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:53.000
+and these kinds of disingenuous arguments are being made
+
+01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:57.000
+and really ridiculous statements like
+
+01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:01.000
+HPV vaccines are a great way to prevent cancer
+
+01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:04.000
+and this is just not true
+
+01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:07.000
+it's not proven, it's not shown, it's not measured
+
+01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:09.000
+it's never been observed
+
+01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:13.000
+and in the cases where it is purported to be observed
+
+01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:20.000
+great mathematical feats of ridiculousness
+
+01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:24.000
+are needed in order to create the illusion of a data set
+
+01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:27.000
+which gives the signal that they purported gives
+
+01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:30.000
+and that's what this Twiv is about
+
+01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.000
+is about this cell micro paper
+
+01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:35.000
+where they say that they looked at
+
+01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:39.000
+many different communities in Finland
+
+01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:45.000
+a total of 16,000 young people from age 18 to 22
+
+01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:50.000
+and they measured the prevalence of several HPV virus
+
+01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:54.000
+serotypes in these individuals
+
+01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:57.000
+four years and eight years after vaccination
+
+01:05:57.000 --> 01:06:01.000
+and purport to compare the vaccination schemes
+
+01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:04.000
+across these communities
+
+01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:07.000
+and the communities that they say are represented
+
+01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:09.000
+are an unvaccinated communities
+
+01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:13.000
+communities where the vaccine was targeted to girls
+
+01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:18.000
+and communities where the vaccine was targeted to boys and girls
+
+01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:21.000
+and using a general linear model
+
+01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:26.000
+and some other mathematical techniques to generate synthetic data
+
+01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:31.000
+they claim that in the
+
+01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:35.000
+populations where they have vaccinated both boys and girls
+
+01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:39.000
+they see an effect on the ecology
+
+01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:42.000
+of the hepatitis viruses
+
+01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:46.000
+that they meet in these adults
+
+01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:49.000
+that they are able to record in these adults
+
+01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:53.000
+so what we're going to watch is these four
+
+01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:56.000
+individuals digest this paper in real time
+
+01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:59.000
+they're supposed to have read it, it's supposed to be a journal club
+
+01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:03.000
+but in reality when you hear the absolute
+
+01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:09.000
+it's only can be described as shameful
+
+01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:12.000
+that all three of these people purport to be
+
+01:07:12.000 --> 01:07:17.000
+a career academic biologist with decades of experience
+
+01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:21.000
+none of these people on the screen are claiming less than
+
+01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:25.000
+less experience than me and most of them I would assume
+
+01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:28.000
+are claiming more experience than me in virology
+
+01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:31.000
+and in biology in general
+
+01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:34.000
+so every one of these people should be my academic
+
+01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:37.000
+and intellectual elder
+
+01:07:37.000 --> 01:07:40.000
+and yet you're going to hear how
+
+01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:43.000
+absolutely elementary
+
+01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:47.000
+and naive they speak
+
+01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:50.000
+of these
+
+01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:53.000
+things that are portrayed as certainties by the CDC
+
+01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:57.000
+by the FDA, by the WHO, by everyone
+
+01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:00.000
+by the entire public health apparatus
+
+01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:03.000
+that is responsible for this illusion of consensus
+
+01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:06.000
+and they even actually get confused because they realize
+
+01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:08.000
+that wow there's a lot of
+
+01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:10.000
+there's a lot of hand waving here
+
+01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:13.000
+and Vincent tries to pull the
+
+01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:16.000
+shoot a little bit and keep them on topic
+
+01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:19.000
+but the guy in the upper right is sure not buying it
+
+01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:23.000
+and the guy in the lower right really tries to save the day too
+
+01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:26.000
+but I mean it's just an exposure like none other
+
+01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.000
+so let's check this out
+
+01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:30.000
+I don't know how long I'm taking here
+
+01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:31.000
+I'm probably really already
+
+01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:33.000
+hours and hours on
+
+01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:35.000
+here we go
+
+01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:38.000
+so I starting it at
+
+01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:42.000
+2358 because they read some other paper beforehand
+
+01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:44.000
+and it's only going to be about 15 minutes
+
+01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.000
+we're not going to listen to the whole thing
+
+01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:48.000
+I'm just going to listen to this paper
+
+01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:51.000
+and I'm going to listen at one and a half speed
+
+01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:52.000
+and then we'll close it out
+
+01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:54.000
+you know because that's how we're going to do it
+
+01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:55.000
+we're going to do dailies
+
+01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:56.000
+we're going to try and just keep
+
+01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:57.000
+singing the same song
+
+01:08:57.000 --> 01:08:58.000
+and if you don't like it
+
+01:08:58.000 --> 01:08:59.000
+well that's tough
+
+01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:01.000
+because the same song needs singing at this point
+
+01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:03.000
+we need to keep repeating stuff
+
+01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:05.000
+until people get it
+
+01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:07.000
+what is behind me?
+
+01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:09.000
+there's a wrinkle in my
+
+01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:11.000
+in my green screen
+
+01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:13.000
+it's making some annoying
+
+01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:15.000
+like there we go
+
+01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:17.000
+alright that's better
+
+01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:19.000
+oh good mistakes
+
+01:09:19.000 --> 01:09:21.000
+let's play
+
+01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:24.000
+yeah there was only two in the ellipsis
+
+01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:26.000
+it was three dots but only two names
+
+01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:27.000
+oh I read the main title
+
+01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:28.000
+with all the authors
+
+01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:29.000
+yeah okay
+
+01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:30.000
+one two three four five six seven eight
+
+01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:31.000
+yeah okay yeah the ellipsis
+
+01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:32.000
+I didn't read that right
+
+01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:34.000
+okay human papillomavirus
+
+01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:35.000
+now these are DNA viruses
+
+01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:37.000
+oh wait what did I say?
+
+01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:39.000
+human icosahedral capsid
+
+01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:41.000
+okay so here you go you can already see
+
+01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:43.000
+where I'm just not
+
+01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:45.000
+human papillomavirus is HPV vaccine
+
+01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:47.000
+I apologize what was I saying
+
+01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:48.000
+hepatitis like that's crazy
+
+01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:50.000
+that's the one they give at birth
+
+01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:52.000
+and they give it other types too
+
+01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:54.000
+so I apologize already for that ball drop
+
+01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:56.000
+HPV is human papillomavirus
+
+01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:58.000
+and those are the viruses
+
+01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.000
+that are blamed for cervical cancer
+
+01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:01.000
+and uterine cancer
+
+01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:03.000
+and all kinds of other genital cancers
+
+01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:05.000
+and so that's what we're talking about here
+
+01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:07.000
+and it's a niche
+
+01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:08.000
+for cervical cancer
+
+01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:10.000
+which is just ridiculous right
+
+01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:12.000
+for a number of biological reasons
+
+01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:14.000
+it's imprecise use of language
+
+01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.000
+that's really burning me up lately
+
+01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:18.000
+but it's it's burning me up
+
+01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:19.000
+because it's become obvious
+
+01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:21.000
+that that's not only what drove me nuts
+
+01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:23.000
+when I was in academic biology
+
+01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:25.000
+as a neurobiologist
+
+01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:27.000
+but it's what really drives me nuts
+
+01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:29.000
+about how we've moved through this pandemic
+
+01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:31.000
+it's with imprecise language
+
+01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:34.000
+it is making things stupid complicated
+
+01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:36.000
+or dumb simple when it's inappropriate
+
+01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:38.000
+to the point where people
+
+01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.000
+are completely bamboozled
+
+01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:41.000
+they're misled
+
+01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:44.000
+and they think they understand something
+
+01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:46.000
+that has been made dumb
+
+01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:48.000
+simple or stupid complicated
+
+01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:50.000
+and they don't
+
+01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:53.000
+and these people are going to
+
+01:10:53.000 --> 01:10:56.000
+inadvertently or unwittingly admit
+
+01:10:56.000 --> 01:10:58.000
+that they don't understand this either
+
+01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:00.000
+and it's sad
+
+01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:02.000
+because you can see them struggle
+
+01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:03.000
+through the mud
+
+01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:05.000
+like wow I really don't get it
+
+01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:06.000
+I mean it doesn't make sense
+
+01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:07.000
+but I guess we've got to accept it
+
+01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:08.000
+because we're a virologist
+
+01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:10.000
+and this is a virology paper
+
+01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:12.000
+brains and they are
+
+01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:13.000
+there are lots of them
+
+01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:14.000
+there are many different types
+
+01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:17.000
+and many of them are associated
+
+01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:19.000
+with producing warts
+
+01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:20.000
+and humans
+
+01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:21.000
+for human papilloma viruses
+
+01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:23.000
+of course are rabbit papilloma viruses as well
+
+01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:25.000
+but in humans some of the types
+
+01:11:25.000 --> 01:11:26.000
+are associated with cancers
+
+01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:28.000
+such as cervical cancer, anal cancer,
+
+01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:29.000
+vaginal cancer, vulvar cancer
+
+01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:31.000
+and also oral pharyngeal cancer
+
+01:11:31.000 --> 01:11:32.000
+and a number of years ago
+
+01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:34.000
+vaccines were developed
+
+01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:36.000
+to specifically prevent these cancers
+
+01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:38.000
+and they're very good at doing that
+
+01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:40.000
+they're interesting vaccines
+
+01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:42.000
+because they're virus-like particles
+
+01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.000
+there's a genome in them
+
+01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:46.000
+the main capsid protein is produced in
+
+01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:48.000
+like yeast or insect cells
+
+01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:49.000
+it assembles into a particle
+
+01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:50.000
+it's mixed with an adjuvant
+
+01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:52.000
+and they're very good at preventing cancers
+
+01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:54.000
+so they've been widely adopted
+
+01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:56.000
+and of course the best time to give them
+
+01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.000
+is before people become sexually active
+
+01:11:58.000 --> 01:11:59.000
+so you don't acquire these viruses naturally
+
+01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:00.000
+which is when they become a problem
+
+01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:02.000
+so you can prevent disease by vaccinating
+
+01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:04.000
+so it's weird because he says
+
+01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:07.000
+that you prevent disease by vaccinating
+
+01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:09.000
+and it's better to vaccinate people younger
+
+01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:11.000
+because you acquire these viruses
+
+01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:13.000
+through sexual activity
+
+01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:19.000
+so the idea is apparently
+
+01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.000
+that you don't have any of these viruses
+
+01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:23.000
+until you start sleeping with people
+
+01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:25.000
+but where do those people get them?
+
+01:12:25.000 --> 01:12:29.000
+basically already the biology is off the rails
+
+01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:31.000
+basically he's already telling you
+
+01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:32.000
+in a minimal mythology story
+
+01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.000
+that has no basis in reality
+
+01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:36.000
+and you can just dissect it
+
+01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:39.000
+with common sense
+
+01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:46.000
+and it's extraordinary really
+
+01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:48.000
+how accepted
+
+01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:50.000
+and accepting
+
+01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:52.000
+the three of these people are
+
+01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:54.000
+as he says these ridiculous things
+
+01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:57.000
+that they're really good at preventing cancer
+
+01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:59.000
+and that giving them early
+
+01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.000
+is the way they work the best
+
+01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.000
+because you get these viruses
+
+01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:04.000
+through sexual activity
+
+01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:07.000
+so we have to give the vaccine
+
+01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:09.000
+before the sexual activity starts
+
+01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:13.000
+I mean how these things are connected
+
+01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:15.000
+in his mind is just
+
+01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:18.000
+it's bewildering to me
+
+01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:21.000
+that they can even speak these words out loud
+
+01:13:21.000 --> 01:13:24.000
+and not be disgusted with themselves
+
+01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:27.000
+because you have to know that these are lies
+
+01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:29.000
+you have to know that these are gross
+
+01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:33.000
+oversimplifications of something that we obviously know
+
+01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:36.000
+is a lot more complicated than this
+
+01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:39.000
+so there are lots and lots of stereotypes of these
+
+01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:41.000
+but it's only a few of them
+
+01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:43.000
+that account for the overwhelming majority
+
+01:13:43.000 --> 01:13:45.000
+essentially all of the cancers
+
+01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:47.000
+and that's 16 and 18
+
+01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.000
+HPV 16 and HPV 18
+
+01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:51.000
+are the targets of the vaccine that they're looking at here
+
+01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:53.000
+31 and 45, too
+
+01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:54.000
+31 and 40
+
+01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:55.000
+oops 31 and 45, too
+
+01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:57.000
+so I guess I don't know what I'm talking about at all
+
+01:13:57.000 --> 01:13:59.000
+but I read the paper and I'm really smart
+
+01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:01.000
+5, too, that's right
+
+01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:03.000
+and the question I have is with all those types
+
+01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:05.000
+does this vaccine come?
+
+01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:07.000
+There's also a
+
+01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:09.000
+9-valent
+
+01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:11.000
+vaccine, Gardasil 9
+
+01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:13.000
+in the paper
+
+01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:15.000
+so really we're looking at
+
+01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:17.000
+4 academic scientists
+
+01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:19.000
+with their own podcast that's already funded
+
+01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:21.000
+that has a studio
+
+01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:23.000
+and staff in Manhattan
+
+01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:25.000
+that's on their thousandth episode
+
+01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:28.000
+and they still don't have the basic biology
+
+01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:30.000
+of human papilloma virus
+
+01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:32.000
+one of the most successful
+
+01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:34.000
+and successful products
+
+01:14:34.000 --> 01:14:36.000
+of the Merck company
+
+01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:38.000
+they have no idea
+
+01:14:38.000 --> 01:14:40.000
+they have no concept
+
+01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:42.000
+they don't feel any obligation
+
+01:14:42.000 --> 01:14:44.000
+and any responsibility to be
+
+01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.000
+informed about it
+
+01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:48.000
+even as they hope that they get a million views
+
+01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:50.000
+even as they think
+
+01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:52.000
+that they are working with Earth's
+
+01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.000
+virology teacher
+
+01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:56.000
+understand how
+
+01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:58.000
+despicable this is
+
+01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:00.000
+no
+
+01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.000
+31 and 45, too
+
+01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:04.000
+31 and 45, too
+
+01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:06.000
+that's right
+
+01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:08.000
+the question I have is with all those types
+
+01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:10.000
+does this vaccine cover all them as well?
+
+01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:12.000
+no
+
+01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:14.000
+if you get the vaccine
+
+01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:16.000
+are you susceptible still to the ones
+
+01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:18.000
+that they didn't include into the vaccine?
+
+01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:20.000
+yes
+
+01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:22.000
+and there's not 100 serotypes
+
+01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:24.000
+there are more than 200 serotypes
+
+01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:26.000
+of the human papilloma virus
+
+01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.000
+and the best vaccine
+
+01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.000
+Gardasil 9
+
+01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.000
+purports to target
+
+01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.000
+9 of those serotypes
+
+01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:40.000
+now if you're not aware
+
+01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:42.000
+about how a niche works
+
+01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:44.000
+a niche is for a single species
+
+01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:48.000
+and species compete to occupy a niche
+
+01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:50.000
+if two species
+
+01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:52.000
+can occupy the same niche
+
+01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:56.000
+it's not really a niche anymore
+
+01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:58.000
+and yet we're going to
+
+01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:00.000
+argue and discuss
+
+01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:02.000
+the use of these terms
+
+01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:04.000
+and whether or not it's appropriate for
+
+01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.000
+something that's actually not even alive
+
+01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:08.000
+that's actually doesn't have
+
+01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:10.000
+species but has a quasi-species
+
+01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:12.000
+swarm
+
+01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.000
+and that can generate new variants
+
+01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:16.000
+through recombination
+
+01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.000
+and generates new variants
+
+01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:22.000
+through consistent replication errors
+
+01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:24.000
+they are
+
+01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:28.000
+completely off their skis here
+
+01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.000
+and careening
+
+01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.000
+into a ditch
+
+01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:34.000
+and the only thing that they can do
+
+01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:36.000
+is do it as gracefully as possible
+
+01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:38.000
+in hopes that the vast majority
+
+01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:40.000
+of their viewers
+
+01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:42.000
+are unsophisticated enough
+
+01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:44.000
+to see the train wreck
+
+01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:46.000
+for what it is
+
+01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:48.000
+the one that really has trouble
+
+01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:50.000
+with it is Alan Dove
+
+01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:52.000
+down here in the bottom
+
+01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.000
+he's really having glitch outs
+
+01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:56.000
+you know like I've got to argue
+
+01:16:56.000 --> 01:16:58.000
+for the mythology
+
+01:16:58.000 --> 01:17:00.000
+that I believe in
+
+01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:02.000
+even though the guy above me here
+
+01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:04.000
+is really really
+
+01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:06.000
+hitting home runs
+
+01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:08.000
+I've got to make fun of this old man
+
+01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:10.000
+we're going to all collectively make fun of this old man
+
+01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:12.000
+so that in the end
+
+01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:14.000
+the illusion of consensus
+
+01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:16.000
+will be sustained
+
+01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:18.000
+watch this train wreck
+
+01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:20.000
+but they've included in the vaccines
+
+01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:22.000
+the highest risk types right
+
+01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:24.000
+so you know
+
+01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:26.000
+as was mentioned actually
+
+01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:28.000
+included into the vaccine
+
+01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:30.000
+if you get the vaccine are you susceptible
+
+01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:32.000
+still to the ones that they didn't include
+
+01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:34.000
+into the vaccine? Yes
+
+01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:36.000
+but they've included in the vaccines
+
+01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:38.000
+the highest risk types right
+
+01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:40.000
+so you know as was mentioned
+
+01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:42.000
+actually so there's a nine-valent
+
+01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:44.000
+HPV vaccine which has the most different types
+
+01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:46.000
+it covers 611, 16, 18, 33,
+
+01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:48.000
+45, 52 and 58
+
+01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:50.000
+right so it's been updated over the years the original was 16 and 18
+
+01:17:50.000 --> 01:17:52.000
+which are the big really bad ones and then they've
+
+01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:54.000
+kind of punched down the list
+
+01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:56.000
+getting more and more and this nine-valent
+
+01:17:56.000 --> 01:17:58.000
+I guess is the latest iteration that
+
+01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:00.000
+why is he even talking
+
+01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:02.000
+five minutes ago he said that this
+
+01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:04.000
+this vaccine that they're talking about
+
+01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:06.000
+in this paper targeted two
+
+01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:08.000
+of the 200 plus
+
+01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:10.000
+zero-zero types
+
+01:18:10.000 --> 01:18:12.000
+then
+
+01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:14.000
+the lady over here corrects him and says
+
+01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:16.000
+no there's two more
+
+01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:18.000
+and finally we say well yeah there's also
+
+01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:20.000
+a nine-valent one
+
+01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:22.000
+and then he pipes in and says
+
+01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:24.000
+oh yeah well yeah this is the way it is
+
+01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:28.000
+because that's how these people have a discussion
+
+01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:32.000
+that's how they think discussion
+
+01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:34.000
+goes
+
+01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:36.000
+is some kind of
+
+01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:40.000
+agreement festival
+
+01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:42.000
+oh yes you're right I agree with you and repeat
+
+01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:44.000
+what they said
+
+01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:46.000
+that's not discussion
+
+01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:48.000
+that's not science happening
+
+01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:50.000
+this isn't a guy who's on his game
+
+01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:54.000
+this is a guy who's posing
+
+01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:56.000
+there's no other way to see it
+
+01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:58.000
+he should be ashamed of himself
+
+01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:00.000
+that he should have said wow I
+
+01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:04.000
+didn't realize this because I just started by saying there's only two
+
+01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:06.000
+targeted
+
+01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:08.000
+I mean
+
+01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:10.000
+how is it even possible
+
+01:19:10.000 --> 01:19:12.000
+that people take this seriously
+
+01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:14.000
+other than the fact that we have been
+
+01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:16.000
+misled for decades
+
+01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:20.000
+it's the only way to explain it
+
+01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:22.000
+um that takes out
+
+01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:24.000
+or generates antibodies against a larger panel
+
+01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:26.000
+so Vincent would you
+
+01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:28.000
+summarize that what is the goal of this research
+
+01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:30.000
+so he made another assumption there
+
+01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:32.000
+he said that this
+
+01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:34.000
+listen he says that this
+
+01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:36.000
+and this nine-valent I guess is the latest iteration
+
+01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:38.000
+that takes out or generates
+
+01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:40.000
+antibodies against a larger panel
+
+01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:42.000
+so he's just thinking out loud
+
+01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:44.000
+that I guess they have this nine-valent
+
+01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:46.000
+one that makes up
+
+01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:48.000
+antibodies against a larger panel
+
+01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:52.000
+now that I just heard
+
+01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:54.000
+that there is a Gardasil-9
+
+01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:56.000
+I guess the way that it must work
+
+01:19:56.000 --> 01:19:58.000
+is that it targets a whole panel of viruses
+
+01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:00.000
+you know
+
+01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.000
+five minutes ago I thought that there was just
+
+01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:04.000
+Gardasil-2 but I guess there's
+
+01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:06.000
+Gardasil-9 so cool wow
+
+01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:08.000
+it's like learning in real time
+
+01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:10.000
+I feel really smart now
+
+01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:16.000
+we're talking about
+
+01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:18.000
+vaccinating teenage girls
+
+01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:20.000
+that don't need to be vaccinated
+
+01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:22.000
+that are
+
+01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:24.000
+we're talking about injecting
+
+01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:26.000
+a combination of substances
+
+01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:28.000
+intramuscularly
+
+01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:30.000
+to augment the immune system
+
+01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:32.000
+of healthy young teenage girls
+
+01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:36.000
+and boys
+
+01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:38.000
+to protect them from viruses
+
+01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:40.000
+that have more than
+
+01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:42.000
+200 seroprevalent type
+
+01:20:42.000 --> 01:20:44.000
+serotypes
+
+01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:46.000
+more than 200
+
+01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:48.000
+serotypes we are attempting
+
+01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:50.000
+to
+
+01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:52.000
+augment the immune system
+
+01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:54.000
+of healthy teenagers
+
+01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:56.000
+and
+
+01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:58.000
+the amount of responsibility
+
+01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:00.000
+that
+
+01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:02.000
+professor Dove feels
+
+01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:04.000
+to all those teenagers
+
+01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:06.000
+is that he was
+
+01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:08.000
+vaguely aware that there was
+
+01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:10.000
+a human papillomavirus vaccine
+
+01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:12.000
+that was dual valent
+
+01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:14.000
+trivalent is there a quadrivalent
+
+01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:16.000
+one oh there's a nine valent
+
+01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:18.000
+one wow that's
+
+01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:20.000
+that's impressive I guess that one develops immunity
+
+01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:22.000
+against a whole panel
+
+01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:24.000
+of human papillomaviruses
+
+01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:26.000
+boy technology's
+
+01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:28.000
+amazing isn't it Dr. Dove
+
+01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.000
+Alan Dove
+
+01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:35.000
+wow I mean I'm just shocked
+
+01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:38.000
+Vincent would you summarize then
+
+01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:40.000
+what is the goal of this research?
+
+01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:42.000
+Oh the goal is a viral ecology
+
+01:21:42.000 --> 01:21:44.000
+yeah I'm a little confused about
+
+01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:46.000
+well right so if you vaccinate against
+
+01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:48.000
+a few serotypes
+
+01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:50.000
+there are all these other serotypes circulating around
+
+01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.000
+and that happens to the ecology of this virus
+
+01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:54.000
+now that you've
+
+01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:56.000
+well if your vaccination is successful
+
+01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:58.000
+you hope to take those serotypes out of the equation
+
+01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:00.000
+maybe eradicate them in quotes
+
+01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:02.000
+at least from local population
+
+01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:04.000
+and then do the other viruses
+
+01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:06.000
+change their proportions in the population
+
+01:22:06.000 --> 01:22:08.000
+but remember what
+
+01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:10.000
+what we started with right
+
+01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:12.000
+Vincent said that you give this
+
+01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:14.000
+this vaccine to kids before
+
+01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:16.000
+they get the virus
+
+01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:18.000
+one representation of HPV vaccine
+
+01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:20.000
+is that you give it to them
+
+01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:22.000
+so that they don't get these
+
+01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:24.000
+these dangerous
+
+01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:26.000
+human papillomaviruses
+
+01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:28.000
+from their sexual activities
+
+01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:30.000
+and they don't spread them
+
+01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:32.000
+so the argument is going to be
+
+01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:34.000
+that the ones that they do have
+
+01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:36.000
+after vaccination
+
+01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:38.000
+obviously are safer
+
+01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:42.000
+but in this paper they don't look at
+
+01:22:42.000 --> 01:22:44.000
+cancer
+
+01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:46.000
+they don't even look at
+
+01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:48.000
+like warts
+
+01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:50.000
+or anything
+
+01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:52.000
+they look for PCR evidence
+
+01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:54.000
+of different
+
+01:22:54.000 --> 01:22:56.000
+serotypes
+
+01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:58.000
+of human papillomavirus
+
+01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:00.000
+and do they look for all of them
+
+01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:02.000
+they can't
+
+01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:04.000
+they can't
+
+01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:08.000
+they don't have that level of fidelity
+
+01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:12.000
+and they don't have that level of
+
+01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:14.000
+of data
+
+01:23:14.000 --> 01:23:16.000
+they don't have that level of vaccination
+
+01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:18.000
+that coverage of vaccination
+
+01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:20.000
+and so they need to use
+
+01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:22.000
+very special
+
+01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:24.000
+general linear models
+
+01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:26.000
+and
+
+01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:29.000
+apply mathematical simulations
+
+01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:31.000
+in order to create synthetic data
+
+01:23:33.000 --> 01:23:35.000
+and in that synthetic data
+
+01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:37.000
+they say that they can find a difference
+
+01:23:37.000 --> 01:23:39.000
+between populations that have been
+
+01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:41.000
+unvaccinated versus vaccinated
+
+01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:43.000
+and girls only versus vaccinated
+
+01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:45.000
+and boys and girls
+
+01:23:50.000 --> 01:23:52.000
+do you get more of those other
+
+01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:54.000
+relatively benign serotypes showing up
+
+01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:55.000
+or does everybody stay the same?
+
+01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:57.000
+you just get a total reduction in the amount of HPV
+
+01:23:57.000 --> 01:23:59.000
+Well I'm not sure a college is the right word
+
+01:23:59.000 --> 01:24:00.000
+though that's what I'm driving
+
+01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:01.000
+The reason they call it ecology
+
+01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:03.000
+is because it's the niche concept
+
+01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:05.000
+the right word that's what I'm driving
+
+01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:06.000
+The reason they call
+
+01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:08.000
+a total reduction in the amount of HPV
+
+01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:10.000
+Well I'm not sure a college is the right word
+
+01:24:10.000 --> 01:24:12.000
+It is says Alan Dove
+
+01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:14.000
+it is
+
+01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:16.000
+it's the right word
+
+01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:18.000
+says the guy who says he read the paper
+
+01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:20.000
+but didn't realize there were three vaccines
+
+01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:22.000
+being used in the paper
+
+01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:24.000
+didn't even bother to look
+
+01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:26.000
+or find out or notice
+
+01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:30.000
+never mind to think about
+
+01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:32.000
+what would the difference between the immune response
+
+01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:34.000
+of somebody who has
+
+01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:36.000
+immunized with one versus the other
+
+01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:40.000
+would one be more dangerous or less dangerous
+
+01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:42.000
+more immunogenic or less
+
+01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:46.000
+would one provoke a more specific response than the other
+
+01:24:46.000 --> 01:24:51.000
+does that have any impact on the ecology that he so sure is there?
+
+01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:54.000
+Listen to the guy in the upper right
+
+01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:56.000
+continue to not really understand
+
+01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:58.000
+why these people are being so
+
+01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:01.000
+imprecise with their language
+
+01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:05.000
+why they think it's okay to be so imprecise about
+
+01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:07.000
+their language
+
+01:25:07.000 --> 01:25:09.000
+He's not happy with it
+
+01:25:09.000 --> 01:25:11.000
+but he goes along with it because of the illusion of consensus
+
+01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:13.000
+that gets created by these kinds of discussions
+
+01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:15.000
+The reason they call it ecology
+
+01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:17.000
+is because there's the niche concept
+
+01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:19.000
+there's a specific niche that a virus occupies
+
+01:25:19.000 --> 01:25:21.000
+and if you take that virus from the niche
+
+01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:23.000
+something else will come in and occupy
+
+01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:25.000
+that's an ecological concept
+
+01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:27.000
+It is but it's
+
+01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:29.000
+I don't like the use of the term
+
+01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:33.000
+I don't because you're really looking at the rates of acquisition of these viruses
+
+01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:35.000
+the rate of acquisition
+
+01:25:35.000 --> 01:25:37.000
+you see he's going back to the cartoon premise
+
+01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:39.000
+that was set at the beginning of this discussion
+
+01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:41.000
+which is already lost
+
+01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:43.000
+because of the
+
+01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:45.000
+bumbling
+
+01:25:45.000 --> 01:25:47.000
+of these people
+
+01:25:47.000 --> 01:25:49.000
+but he's on it
+
+01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:51.000
+the guy in the upper right is on it
+
+01:25:51.000 --> 01:25:53.000
+we could review it right now
+
+01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:55.000
+let's go back Vincent
+
+01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:57.000
+what did you say this is? This is a
+
+01:25:57.000 --> 01:25:59.000
+this is a vaccine
+
+01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:01.000
+that is supposed to prevent the acquisition
+
+01:26:01.000 --> 01:26:03.000
+of human papilloma viruses
+
+01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:05.000
+during sexual activity
+
+01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:07.000
+and so it makes sense
+
+01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:09.000
+they're great at preventing cancer
+
+01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:11.000
+Vincent says
+
+01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:13.000
+and we should apply them to kids young
+
+01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:15.000
+before they acquire
+
+01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:19.000
+the viruses through sexual activity
+
+01:26:19.000 --> 01:26:21.000
+so as
+
+01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:25.000
+follows from that very obvious premise
+
+01:26:25.000 --> 01:26:27.000
+the guy up here in the upper right
+
+01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:29.000
+is arguing that well
+
+01:26:29.000 --> 01:26:31.000
+then we're looking at the rate of acquisition
+
+01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:33.000
+of these viruses
+
+01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:35.000
+that's the exact words he used
+
+01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:37.000
+the rate of acquisition
+
+01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:39.000
+we're starting from zero
+
+01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:41.000
+and we're acquiring viruses
+
+01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:43.000
+by being sexually active
+
+01:26:43.000 --> 01:26:47.000
+that's the cartoon premise
+
+01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:49.000
+and that is the cartoon premise
+
+01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:51.000
+under which we are supposedly
+
+01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:53.000
+vaccinating our teenage children
+
+01:26:53.000 --> 01:26:57.000
+and so inadvertently
+
+01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:59.000
+unwittingly this guy is actually
+
+01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:01.000
+questioning that premise right now
+
+01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:03.000
+and this guy is responding
+
+01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:05.000
+in a very typical
+
+01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:07.000
+skilled tv watcher way
+
+01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:09.000
+he's laughing at him
+
+01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:13.000
+he's making fun
+
+01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:15.000
+you don't like the term
+
+01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:17.000
+you don't like the term ecology
+
+01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:19.000
+you don't like the term niche
+
+01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:21.000
+are we being too imprecise for you
+
+01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:25.000
+it's wicked these ways
+
+01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:27.000
+ladies and gentlemen
+
+01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:29.000
+it is wicked these many ways
+
+01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:31.000
+that they haven't chanted us
+
+01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:33.000
+and there are many
+
+01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:35.000
+unwitting participants like this
+
+01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:37.000
+Alan Dove character down here
+
+01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:39.000
+who just loves to hear his own voice
+
+01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:41.000
+but actually doesn't know very much
+
+01:27:41.000 --> 01:27:43.000
+as is obvious every time he speaks
+
+01:27:43.000 --> 01:27:45.000
+he gets really excited
+
+01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:47.000
+when he thinks he's about to
+
+01:27:47.000 --> 01:27:49.000
+restate something
+
+01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:51.000
+that he sure is true
+
+01:27:51.000 --> 01:27:53.000
+almost like a guy who gets to run
+
+01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:55.000
+in a touchdown from one yard away
+
+01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:57.000
+it's really fun
+
+01:27:57.000 --> 01:27:59.000
+but it's also kind of not
+
+01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:01.000
+challenging if the line does their
+
+01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:03.000
+job and so he's always
+
+01:28:03.000 --> 01:28:05.000
+really excited in these discussions
+
+01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:07.000
+when they explain something
+
+01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:09.000
+and then he gets to
+
+01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:11.000
+explain it again because he
+
+01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:13.000
+thinks he understands it exactly like
+
+01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:15.000
+he did with the with the nine
+
+01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:17.000
+valent vaccine thing oh yeah they have
+
+01:28:17.000 --> 01:28:19.000
+a nine valent when I guess that means
+
+01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:21.000
+that it produces an immune response
+
+01:28:21.000 --> 01:28:23.000
+against a whole panel of viruses
+
+01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:27.000
+so here now he takes the role
+
+01:28:27.000 --> 01:28:29.000
+of condescension
+
+01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:31.000
+and says yeah you don't like the term
+
+01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:33.000
+well it's definitely the right term
+
+01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:35.000
+you don't like the term
+
+01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:37.000
+listen
+
+01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:39.000
+has this discussion spirals
+
+01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:41.000
+into full-on skepticism
+
+01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:44.000
+and Vincent is forced to just
+
+01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:46.000
+drag it out of the water
+
+01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:48.000
+you're going to exclude
+
+01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:50.000
+all of these others with a vaccine
+
+01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:52.000
+and then do the others there you're not
+
+01:28:52.000 --> 01:28:54.000
+vaccinating against do they come up as a result
+
+01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:56.000
+does the rate increase or does it not increase
+
+01:28:56.000 --> 01:28:58.000
+if we eradicated qlex pippians
+
+01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:00.000
+would other mosquitoes
+
+01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:02.000
+come into the niche that it occupies
+
+01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:04.000
+and you know become more prevalent than they are
+
+01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:06.000
+see he again
+
+01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:08.000
+completely admits that he doesn't
+
+01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:10.000
+understand the biological concept
+
+01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:12.000
+that he's arguing about
+
+01:29:12.000 --> 01:29:14.000
+if we get rid of a particular mosquito
+
+01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:16.000
+will other mosquitoes come in
+
+01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:18.000
+that's not exactly the same
+
+01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:20.000
+as sexually acquired human papillomavirus
+
+01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:24.000
+is it no
+
+01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:26.000
+and the niche that's occupied
+
+01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:28.000
+apparently by human papillomavirus
+
+01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:30.000
+it's not the same
+
+01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:36.000
+because a mosquito occupying a niche
+
+01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:38.000
+is a
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+01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:40.000
+is an ecosystem
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+01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:42.000
+it is a species
+
+01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:44.000
+it is predators
+
+01:29:44.000 --> 01:29:46.000
+and prey
+
+01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:48.000
+it's reproduction
+
+01:29:48.000 --> 01:29:50.000
+it's weather
+
+01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:52.000
+it's seasons
+
+01:29:52.000 --> 01:29:54.000
+it's an ecosystem
+
+01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:56.000
+according to the cartoon
+
+01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:58.000
+narrative of human papillomavirus
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+01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:00.000
+human papillomavirus is something
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+01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:02.000
+that you acquire when you become sexually active
+
+01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:04.000
+one way to avoid human papillomavirus
+
+01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:06.000
+would be not to be sexually active
+
+01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:08.000
+one way to avoid mosquitoes
+
+01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:10.000
+I guess is to go not go outside
+
+01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:12.000
+but we are not talking about
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+01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:14.000
+apples and apples here
+
+01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:16.000
+and Alan Dove
+
+01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:18.000
+doesn't seem to get it yet
+
+01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:20.000
+and he's super confident
+
+01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:22.000
+that he's right because he's explaining it
+
+01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:24.000
+with this checkmate
+
+01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:26.000
+sort of
+
+01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:28.000
+if we got rid of one mosquito
+
+01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:30.000
+would another mosquito come in and do it
+
+01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:32.000
+please tell me that we get some
+
+01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:34.000
+comeback on this
+
+01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:36.000
+no no no I got that part
+
+01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:38.000
+that's an ecological question right?
+
+01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:40.000
+it is but I'm just
+
+01:30:40.000 --> 01:30:42.000
+could have simplified this a little bit by just saying
+
+01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:44.000
+does the rate of infection with the others go up
+
+01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:46.000
+in those that haven't been vaccinated
+
+01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:48.000
+because the ones that have been vaccinated
+
+01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:50.000
+have kept down the rate of infection
+
+01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:52.000
+with that particular species
+
+01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:54.000
+I mean one of the most important things
+
+01:30:54.000 --> 01:30:56.000
+I'm trying to drive home which I'm not doing a very good job of
+
+01:30:56.000 --> 01:30:58.000
+is that the biology of
+
+01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:00.000
+viruses
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+01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:02.000
+is to a large extent
+
+01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:04.000
+a mythology
+
+01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:06.000
+and it is a mythology
+
+01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:08.000
+based on the false equivalence
+
+01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:10.000
+between replicating
+
+01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:12.000
+reproducing evolving species
+
+01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:14.000
+like a mosquito
+
+01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:18.000
+and an RNA signal
+
+01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:20.000
+an RNA noise
+
+01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:22.000
+an RNA phantom
+
+01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:26.000
+an RNA phenomenon
+
+01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:30.000
+and in this case a DNA phenomenon
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+01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:32.000
+a genetic noise
+
+01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:34.000
+a genetic signal
+
+01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:36.000
+a genetic something
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+01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:38.000
+that is not equivalent to a species
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+01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:40.000
+which replicates and evolves
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+01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:42.000
+and reproduces
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+01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:44.000
+and is subject to selective pressures
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+01:31:44.000 --> 01:31:46.000
+and predatory and prey relationships
+
+01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:48.000
+and the weather etc
+
+01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:50.000
+that false equivalence
+
+01:31:50.000 --> 01:31:54.000
+and this transfer of
+
+01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:56.000
+all of these biological ideas
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+01:31:56.000 --> 01:31:58.000
+to the phenomenon
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+01:31:58.000 --> 01:32:02.000
+DNA viruses is a false equivalence
+
+01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:04.000
+which has resulted in
+
+01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:06.000
+much confusion
+
+01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:10.000
+about the potential for viruses to evolve
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+01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:12.000
+to sustain themselves
+
+01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:14.000
+to occupy niches
+
+01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:16.000
+all of these things
+
+01:32:16.000 --> 01:32:18.000
+are designed to bamboozle you
+
+01:32:18.000 --> 01:32:21.000
+into believing that many of the biological principles
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+01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:24.000
+that we've come to understand our world with
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+01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:26.000
+are applicable to these
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+01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:28.000
+small phenomenon
+
+01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:30.000
+of RNA and DNA
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+01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.000
+and they are not
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+01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:34.000
+because we have a whole
+
+01:32:34.000 --> 01:32:36.000
+other set of biological ideas
+
+01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:38.000
+which describe
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+01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:40.000
+the principles governing
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+01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:42.000
+the behavior of RNA
+
+01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:44.000
+and DNA in the wild
+
+01:32:46.000 --> 01:32:48.000
+we understand how DNA is exchanged
+
+01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:50.000
+between bacteria
+
+01:32:50.000 --> 01:32:52.000
+we understand how DNA is exchanged
+
+01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:54.000
+using viruses between the roots
+
+01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:56.000
+of cell roots of plants
+
+01:32:56.000 --> 01:32:58.000
+and the fungi that grow around them
+
+01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:00.000
+we understand that
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+01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:02.000
+the different layers
+
+01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:04.000
+of the phytoplankton
+
+01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:06.000
+in the ocean
+
+01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:08.000
+communicate and change
+
+01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:10.000
+metabolically by communicating
+
+01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:12.000
+with viruses
+
+01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:14.000
+we understand that most of our tissues
+
+01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:16.000
+communicate with viruses
+
+01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:18.000
+that are just exosomes
+
+01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.000
+and we understand
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+01:33:20.000 --> 01:33:22.000
+that the replication
+
+01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:24.000
+of DNA and RNA is limited
+
+01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:26.000
+by the enzymes that are used
+
+01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:28.000
+in the context in which it occurs
+
+01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:32.000
+and these limitations
+
+01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:34.000
+prevent
+
+01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:37.000
+RNA and DNA viruses
+
+01:33:37.000 --> 01:33:40.000
+from reaching the level of biological phenomenon
+
+01:33:40.000 --> 01:33:42.000
+where terms like niche
+
+01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:44.000
+and ecosystem are appropriate
+
+01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:50.000
+that's what we're dealing with here
+
+01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:52.000
+and here we have
+
+01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:54.000
+Alan Dove so casually arguing
+
+01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:56.000
+that all of these things apply
+
+01:33:56.000 --> 01:33:58.000
+to all of these other things
+
+01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:00.000
+and they just don't
+
+01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:02.000
+and that guy up there
+
+01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:04.000
+at the top right seems to understand
+
+01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:06.000
+that there is a little bit of a contradiction
+
+01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:08.000
+and a little bit of
+
+01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:10.000
+of incongruence when you start
+
+01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:12.000
+to take these
+
+01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:14.000
+these macro-biological ideas
+
+01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:16.000
+and apply them to a very limited system
+
+01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:18.000
+like RNA or DNA viruses
+
+01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:22.000
+I would argue with your use of the word
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+01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:24.000
+rate I think they're looking at the levels
+
+01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:26.000
+of the virus
+
+01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:28.000
+they're not looking at rates of infection
+
+01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:30.000
+they're looking at levels of the virus
+
+01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:32.000
+incidence and prevalence
+
+01:34:32.000 --> 01:34:34.000
+yeah it's right it's not a rate it's just
+
+01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:36.000
+incidence right in prevalence yeah okay so
+
+01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:38.000
+okay so incidents in prevalence
+
+01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:40.000
+and we're not looking at cancer
+
+01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:42.000
+and we're looking at incidents in prevalence
+
+01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:44.000
+without the benefit of having the
+
+01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:46.000
+incidents in prevalence before vaccination
+
+01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:50.000
+again under this cartoon assumption
+
+01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:52.000
+that there are no signals
+
+01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:54.000
+before you have sex
+
+01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:56.000
+and acquire these signals
+
+01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:00.000
+and so their entire paper in cell micro
+
+01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:02.000
+was based on a no data set
+
+01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:04.000
+at start
+
+01:35:04.000 --> 01:35:06.000
+at which is vaccination
+
+01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:08.000
+or no vaccination and then
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+01:35:08.000 --> 01:35:10.000
+four years later they take their first
+
+01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:12.000
+measurement of the ecology
+
+01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:14.000
+of the human papilloma virus
+
+01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:16.000
+in those people
+
+01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:18.000
+they have no baseline
+
+01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:20.000
+they just assume
+
+01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:22.000
+like he did in the introduction
+
+01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:24.000
+to the paper that kids don't have
+
+01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:26.000
+these viruses
+
+01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:28.000
+and if we vaccinate them early enough
+
+01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:30.000
+we can stop their acquisition
+
+01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:32.000
+of these viruses because that's how vaccines work
+
+01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:38.000
+this is the illusion
+
+01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:40.000
+this is the mythology right here
+
+01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:42.000
+in front of you this is the way
+
+01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:44.000
+this is all they got
+
+01:35:44.000 --> 01:35:46.000
+and they want to vaccinate
+
+01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:48.000
+millions of people
+
+01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:50.000
+and millions of people
+
+01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:52.000
+millions of girls
+
+01:35:52.000 --> 01:35:54.000
+teenage girls
+
+01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:56.000
+around the world in Africa
+
+01:35:56.000 --> 01:35:58.000
+India America everywhere
+
+01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:00.000
+that will take it
+
+01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:02.000
+based on this flimsy
+
+01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:04.000
+type of discussion where
+
+01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:06.000
+four people apparently can read
+
+01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:08.000
+a paper and barely even get past the
+
+01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:10.000
+abstract because they're so biased
+
+01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:12.000
+and so bamboozled
+
+01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:14.000
+that they just think that
+
+01:36:14.000 --> 01:36:16.000
+disease means
+
+01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:18.000
+cure and cure is the best one
+
+01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:20.000
+is a vaccine
+
+01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:22.000
+I mean that's the foundation of their understanding
+
+01:36:22.000 --> 01:36:24.000
+of everything around them
+
+01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:26.000
+the way they put it here
+
+01:36:26.000 --> 01:36:28.000
+and if you look in the discussion
+
+01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:30.000
+they say the rationale
+
+01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:34.000
+for the study is that the vaccine
+
+01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:36.000
+reduces the number of susceptible hosts
+
+01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:38.000
+or the virus is targeted
+
+01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:40.000
+by the vaccine or
+
+01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:42.000
+would it favor escape
+
+01:36:42.000 --> 01:36:44.000
+which is the case for influenza virus
+
+01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:46.000
+that happens for HPV
+
+01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:48.000
+the idea of
+
+01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:50.000
+so escape mutants
+
+01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:52.000
+for COVID and for flu just slip that in
+
+01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:54.000
+there you know escape mutants
+
+01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:56.000
+viruses that are not targeted by the vaccine
+
+01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:58.000
+or would it favor escape
+
+01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:00.000
+which is the case for influenza virus
+
+01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:02.000
+that already is another mythology
+
+01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:04.000
+right because how would you
+
+01:37:04.000 --> 01:37:06.000
+and I differentiate
+
+01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:09.000
+let's look at the HPV example
+
+01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:12.000
+human papilloma virus has more than
+
+01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:14.000
+200 serotypes
+
+01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:16.000
+many of them are rare
+
+01:37:16.000 --> 01:37:18.000
+many of them haven't really been associated
+
+01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:20.000
+with cancer that we know of but how
+
+01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:22.000
+really have we investigated if many of them
+
+01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:24.000
+are spread all over the place
+
+01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:26.000
+geographically in space and time
+
+01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:30.000
+and so we vaccinate against a few of them
+
+01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:32.000
+we claim that it has some effect on cancer
+
+01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:34.000
+but we have no data for it
+
+01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:38.000
+and these people are now having
+
+01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:42.000
+creating an illusion of consensus that these things
+
+01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:44.000
+are obviously useful
+
+01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:46.000
+and that what we envision that we see in
+
+01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:48.000
+this paper is evidence of their usefulness
+
+01:37:48.000 --> 01:37:50.000
+but the evidence in this paper is
+
+01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:52.000
+synthetic data
+
+01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:54.000
+generating used a combination of
+
+01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:56.000
+mathematical techniques
+
+01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:58.000
+derived from the original data set
+
+01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:00.000
+which doesn't even have a baseline
+
+01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:02.000
+they did not measure HPV
+
+01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:04.000
+prevalence and serotypes
+
+01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:06.000
+in these children
+
+01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:10.000
+at vaccination
+
+01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.000
+but they tell the story here that they obviously
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+01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:14.000
+they didn't have any before they started
+
+01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:16.000
+having sex that would be crazy
+
+01:38:16.000 --> 01:38:18.000
+these are sexually transmitted viruses
+
+01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:22.000
+what a magnificently huge assumption
+
+01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:26.000
+it's very convenient
+
+01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:28.000
+for the vaccine maker
+
+01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:30.000
+very convenient that these guys don't ever
+
+01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:34.000
+even notice it
+
+01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:36.000
+like how can they not notice it if
+
+01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:38.000
+there's no baseline
+
+01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:40.000
+like what kind of study was this
+
+01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:46.000
+that happens for HPV
+
+01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:48.000
+but the idea of reducing the
+
+01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:50.000
+number of susceptible hosts
+
+01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:52.000
+may increase the likelihood of type replacement
+
+01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:54.000
+which is what they call it
+
+01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:56.000
+the paper before this though
+
+01:38:56.000 --> 01:38:58.000
+even the use of hosts
+
+01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:02.000
+susceptible hosts
+
+01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:06.000
+reducing the number of susceptible hosts
+
+01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:08.000
+implies parasite
+
+01:39:08.000 --> 01:39:12.000
+implies parasite
+
+01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:16.000
+is a virus a parasite
+
+01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:18.000
+should we think of it as a parasite
+
+01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:20.000
+or is that a biological term
+
+01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:22.000
+that's inappropriate to use for
+
+01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:26.000
+an RNA or DNA phenomena
+
+01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:28.000
+I would argue that it's part of this
+
+01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:30.000
+semantic war
+
+01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:34.000
+that's obfuscating
+
+01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:36.000
+the limitations
+
+01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:38.000
+of RNA and DNA
+
+01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:40.000
+virology
+
+01:39:40.000 --> 01:39:42.000
+and perpetuating
+
+01:39:42.000 --> 01:39:44.000
+this mythology that
+
+01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:46.000
+pandemics are possible
+
+01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:48.000
+that public health is necessary
+
+01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:52.000
+that vaccines are essential
+
+01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:55.000
+and slowly but surely
+
+01:39:55.000 --> 01:39:57.000
+old guys and young guys
+
+01:39:57.000 --> 01:39:59.000
+and old ladies and young ladies
+
+01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:01.000
+are going to have to realize in their own
+
+01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:03.000
+time and in their own way
+
+01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:05.000
+that this is
+
+01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:07.000
+a lie
+
+01:40:07.000 --> 01:40:09.000
+maybe this guy's learning it
+
+01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:11.000
+slowly but surely right now
+
+01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:13.000
+it will die still just confused
+
+01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:15.000
+I think a lot of people are
+
+01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:17.000
+going to die just confused
+
+01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:19.000
+clearly stated that there were some geographic
+
+01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:21.000
+differences in distribution of the SARS virus
+
+01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:23.000
+rather geographic distribution
+
+01:40:23.000 --> 01:40:25.000
+differences with these SARS types
+
+01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:27.000
+that's a good question
+
+01:40:27.000 --> 01:40:29.000
+if there's none there to begin with
+
+01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:31.000
+and you've cut out all of the ones
+
+01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:33.000
+that you're worried about causing cancer
+
+01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:35.000
+then nothing is going to come in to replace it
+
+01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:37.000
+because it's not there
+
+01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:39.000
+this particular study is in Sweden
+
+01:40:39.000 --> 01:40:41.000
+so they're not looking at a global
+
+01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:43.000
+perspective there
+
+01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:45.000
+but it's an interesting question
+
+01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:47.000
+do you see a different pattern elsewhere
+
+01:40:47.000 --> 01:40:49.000
+okay I'm sorry to
+
+01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:51.000
+I'm sorry
+
+01:40:51.000 --> 01:40:53.000
+people will allow it for this
+
+01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:55.000
+I'm not sure I can't
+
+01:40:55.000 --> 01:40:57.000
+so what are you doing this paper as they look at
+
+01:40:57.000 --> 01:40:59.000
+community level occurrence of different types
+
+01:40:59.000 --> 01:41:01.000
+up to eight years after vaccination
+
+01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:03.000
+either in girls only or gender neutral
+
+01:41:03.000 --> 01:41:05.000
+so one or the other
+
+01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:07.000
+right so they actually have three different
+
+01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:09.000
+communities that they're looking at there
+
+01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:11.000
+some that didn't have vaccination campaign
+
+01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:13.000
+some that targeted girls specifically
+
+01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:15.000
+because it's a very effective way to control the virus
+
+01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:17.000
+or at least it should be and then others that were
+
+01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:19.000
+gender neutral boys and girls got vaccinated
+
+01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:21.000
+and we should say there has been previous evidence that
+
+01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:23.000
+vaccination is changing the
+
+01:41:23.000 --> 01:41:25.000
+the prevalence of genotypes
+
+01:41:25.000 --> 01:41:27.000
+right there these the ones targeted by the vaccines
+
+01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:29.000
+are going down and
+
+01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:31.000
+so the question is are the others that are not targeted
+
+01:41:31.000 --> 01:41:33.000
+going up or are they staying the same?
+
+01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:35.000
+that's what they're addressing
+
+01:41:35.000 --> 01:41:37.000
+so none of these
+
+01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:39.000
+the conclusions that he just listed
+
+01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:41.000
+were actually reached using the data
+
+01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:43.000
+and the data in this paper
+
+01:41:43.000 --> 01:41:45.000
+were unable to say any of those things
+
+01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:47.000
+but the combination
+
+01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:49.000
+of a
+
+01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:51.000
+linear modeling and a
+
+01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:53.000
+what is it?
+
+01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:55.000
+graphical something
+
+01:41:55.000 --> 01:41:57.000
+something network
+
+01:41:57.000 --> 01:41:59.000
+two different types of
+
+01:41:59.000 --> 01:42:01.000
+math were used to
+
+01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:03.000
+synthetically generate
+
+01:42:03.000 --> 01:42:05.000
+finally to comprehensive
+
+01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:07.000
+evaluate the community level
+
+01:42:07.000 --> 01:42:09.000
+HPV type diversity
+
+01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:11.000
+distribution between the trial arms
+
+01:42:11.000 --> 01:42:13.000
+we applied
+
+01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:15.000
+gen modeling
+
+01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:17.000
+for the observed HPV type prevalence data
+
+01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:19.000
+and generated a synthetic data set
+
+01:42:19.000 --> 01:42:21.000
+from each original community
+
+01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:23.000
+randomized trial arm
+
+01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:25.000
+first the gen model
+
+01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:27.000
+was fitted to each
+
+01:42:27.000 --> 01:42:29.000
+observed trial arm HPV type
+
+01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:31.000
+distribution over time
+
+01:42:31.000 --> 01:42:33.000
+from which a synthetic
+
+01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:35.000
+HPV type prevalence distribution
+
+01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:37.000
+for 100,000 individuals
+
+01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:39.000
+was simulated
+
+01:42:39.000 --> 01:42:43.000
+for each arm and time point
+
+01:42:43.000 --> 01:42:45.000
+for community level alpha
+
+01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:47.000
+and beta diversity estimation
+
+01:42:47.000 --> 01:42:49.000
+synthetic HPV type prevalence
+
+01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:51.000
+distribution for each trial arm
+
+01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:53.000
+data with an n equals
+
+01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:55.000
+100,000 was randomly resampled
+
+01:42:55.000 --> 01:42:57.000
+a thousand times without replacement
+
+01:42:57.000 --> 01:42:59.000
+for equal community size
+
+01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:01.000
+community level HPV type
+
+01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:03.000
+alpha diversity was estimated using
+
+01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:05.000
+resampled synthetic communities
+
+01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:07.000
+for 18 to 22 year olds
+
+01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:09.000
+a significant increase
+
+01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:11.000
+in alpha diversity
+
+01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:13.000
+the Shannon index was observed
+
+01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:15.000
+from 18 to 22 year olds
+
+01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:17.000
+in the synthetic and gender
+
+01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:19.000
+and neutral communities
+
+01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:21.000
+in contrast a significantly lower
+
+01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:23.000
+alpha diversity was sustained
+
+01:43:23.000 --> 01:43:25.000
+in the synthetic girls-only communities
+
+01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:27.000
+among the 22 year olds
+
+01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:29.000
+does that sound like data
+
+01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:31.000
+which leads you to believe
+
+01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:35.000
+what Vincent just said
+
+01:43:35.000 --> 01:43:37.000
+or does it sound like they did a
+
+01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:39.000
+mathematical simulation
+
+01:43:39.000 --> 01:43:41.000
+that gave them the result that they wanted
+
+01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:45.000
+and how
+
+01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:47.000
+disingenuously
+
+01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:49.000
+is this result
+
+01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:51.000
+or this result set
+
+01:43:51.000 --> 01:43:53.000
+being represented by these people
+
+01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:55.000
+they haven't even mentioned
+
+01:43:55.000 --> 01:43:58.000
+that general linearized models
+
+01:43:58.000 --> 01:44:01.000
+and this technique called
+
+01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:03.000
+a graphical-independent
+
+01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:05.000
+network model
+
+01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:09.000
+a graphical-independent
+
+01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:11.000
+network model
+
+01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:13.000
+a graphical-independent
+
+01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:15.000
+network modeling
+
+01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:19.000
+was used for the observed HPV type
+
+01:44:19.000 --> 01:44:21.000
+prevalence data
+
+01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:23.000
+and generated a synthetic dataset
+
+01:44:23.000 --> 01:44:25.000
+from each original community
+
+01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:27.000
+randomized trial arm
+
+01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:29.000
+first the
+
+01:44:29.000 --> 01:44:31.000
+gin model was fitted
+
+01:44:31.000 --> 01:44:33.000
+to each observed trial arm
+
+01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:35.000
+HPV type distribution
+
+01:44:35.000 --> 01:44:37.000
+over time
+
+01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:39.000
+from which a synthetic
+
+01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:41.000
+so they basically used
+
+01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:43.000
+linear
+
+01:44:43.000 --> 01:44:45.000
+and
+
+01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:47.000
+graphical
+
+01:44:47.000 --> 01:44:49.000
+independence network models
+
+01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:51.000
+which I don't say that I understand
+
+01:44:51.000 --> 01:44:53.000
+but I'm just telling you what they're doing
+
+01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:55.000
+and what they say in their paper
+
+01:44:55.000 --> 01:44:57.000
+and what they say in their paper to generate
+
+01:44:57.000 --> 01:44:59.000
+a synthetic dataset
+
+01:44:59.000 --> 01:45:01.000
+made up of 100,000
+
+01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:03.000
+synthetic cases
+
+01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:05.000
+or distributions of the
+
+01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:07.000
+Hylun papilloma virus
+
+01:45:07.000 --> 01:45:09.000
+serotypes
+
+01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:11.000
+and in those
+
+01:45:11.000 --> 01:45:13.000
+communities which were simulated
+
+01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:15.000
+they say that they got
+
+01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:17.000
+a significantly lower
+
+01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:19.000
+alpha diversity
+
+01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:21.000
+in the girls-only communities
+
+01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:23.000
+and the gender-neutral
+
+01:45:23.000 --> 01:45:25.000
+communities of some kind.
+
+01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:27.000
+I mean
+
+01:45:27.000 --> 01:45:29.000
+the way that they are discussing this
+
+01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:31.000
+it sounds like they just measured a bunch
+
+01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:33.000
+of people and found a change in the viruses
+
+01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:35.000
+but they actually didn't
+
+01:45:35.000 --> 01:45:37.000
+they measured a bunch of people
+
+01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:39.000
+and then they used a lot of mathematical tricks
+
+01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:41.000
+and tools to create
+
+01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:43.000
+a dataset where they say that
+
+01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:45.000
+they found a difference between these different
+
+01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:47.000
+communities but they're all synthetic communities
+
+01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:51.000
+they don't have enough data from the
+
+01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:53.000
+real data because what?
+
+01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:55.000
+because the communities they're discussing
+
+01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:57.000
+have a vaccination rate of between
+
+01:45:57.000 --> 01:45:59.000
+25 and 50 percent
+
+01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:05.000
+Did you hear that from Vincent or any of these guys yet?
+
+01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:07.000
+Not at all
+
+01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:09.000
+Not at all
+
+01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:11.000
+You don't hear
+
+01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:13.000
+it from them at all
+
+01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:15.000
+because they don't understand the paper
+
+01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:17.000
+or they haven't read the paper
+
+01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:19.000
+or they've read the paper and don't understand it
+
+01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:21.000
+they're actually all
+
+01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:23.000
+based on synthetic modeling
+
+01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:25.000
+and interpretation
+
+01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:27.000
+based on the limited data set
+
+01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:29.000
+that they had
+
+01:46:29.000 --> 01:46:31.000
+that the limited data set that they had
+
+01:46:31.000 --> 01:46:33.000
+was insufficient to show
+
+01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:35.000
+any effect at all
+
+01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:37.000
+is lost on these guys
+
+01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:43.000
+That's the best way to put it
+
+01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:45.000
+That's exactly right
+
+01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:47.000
+So they first look at four years
+
+01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:49.000
+after vaccination and they compare
+
+01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:51.000
+HPV types in this community
+
+01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:53.000
+and they have a
+
+01:46:53.000 --> 01:46:55.000
+generalized linear model
+
+01:46:55.000 --> 01:46:57.000
+GLM for looking at this
+
+01:46:57.000 --> 01:46:59.000
+these are all statistical analyses
+
+01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:01.000
+of course
+
+01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:03.000
+No differences in the
+
+01:47:03.000 --> 01:47:05.000
+between the gender-neutral arm A and girls-only-arm B
+
+01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:07.000
+at the community or type level
+
+01:47:07.000 --> 01:47:09.000
+which remained true even after selecting
+
+01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:11.000
+certain birth cohorts
+
+01:47:11.000 --> 01:47:13.000
+for the strongest difference in strength
+
+01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:15.000
+but four years post-vaccination
+
+01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:17.000
+and epigenicity of vaccine-targeted genotypes
+
+01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:19.000
+that would be 16, 18, 31
+
+01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:21.000
+and 45, 45 in both gender-neutral communities
+
+01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:23.000
+and for girls-only communities
+
+01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:25.000
+so reduction in the
+
+01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:27.000
+circulation of those types
+
+01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:29.000
+if you will
+
+01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:31.000
+So I have another question related to that then
+
+01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:33.000
+How long does the vaccine protect?
+
+01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:35.000
+Well we've looked
+
+01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:37.000
+when was this first
+
+01:47:37.000 --> 01:47:39.000
+This group is from 92 at the earliest
+
+01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:41.000
+as far as I know it's durable
+
+01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:43.000
+I haven't heard anything about
+
+01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:45.000
+waning immunity against it
+
+01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:47.000
+because it's not a molecular
+
+01:47:47.000 --> 01:47:49.000
+vaccine dependent on the genome
+
+01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:51.000
+it's a protein vaccine
+
+01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:53.000
+The eight years post-vaccination they found comparable to portions of these
+
+01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:55.000
+vaccine-targeted types
+
+01:47:55.000 --> 01:47:57.000
+16, 18, 31, 45, again
+
+01:47:57.000 --> 01:47:59.000
+in general-neutral and then they find 16, 18, 31
+
+01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:01.000
+are reduced in the girls-only communities
+
+01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:03.000
+so those are
+
+01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:05.000
+types that are targeted by the vaccine
+
+01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:07.000
+you can see a reduction which has been reported elsewhere
+
+01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:09.000
+Now eight years post-vaccination
+
+01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:11.000
+they found an increase of non-vaccinated
+
+01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:13.000
+and non-vaccinated types
+
+01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:15.000
+52 and 66
+
+01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:17.000
+exclusively among the gender-neutral communities
+
+01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:19.000
+when you compare them with the control
+
+01:48:19.000 --> 01:48:21.000
+because we didn't get any vaccine
+
+01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:23.000
+so 52 and 66 are not in the vaccine
+
+01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:25.000
+but they're going up
+
+01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:27.000
+but you don't see that in the girls-only
+
+01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:29.000
+comparison
+
+01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:31.000
+I don't know why that is
+
+01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:33.000
+I got to this part in the paper
+
+01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:35.000
+I was like wait
+
+01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:37.000
+how do we make sense of this
+
+01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:39.000
+and eventually what I kind of
+
+01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:41.000
+like partly from the data but also just like
+
+01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:43.000
+how would that even work
+
+01:48:43.000 --> 01:48:45.000
+is that the unvaccinated boys
+
+01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:47.000
+may serve as something of a reservoir
+
+01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:49.000
+for some of the
+
+01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:51.000
+of the HPV 16, 18 at all
+
+01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:53.000
+and that is preventing
+
+01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:55.000
+the
+
+01:48:55.000 --> 01:48:57.000
+the ingress if you will of
+
+01:48:57.000 --> 01:48:59.000
+52 and 66
+
+01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:01.000
+because the niche is not completely unoccupied
+
+01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:03.000
+there's a segment of the population that still has
+
+01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:05.000
+these oncogenic viruses
+
+01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:07.000
+Now that's pretty funny
+
+01:49:07.000 --> 01:49:09.000
+for him to say because
+
+01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:11.000
+again it seems like
+
+01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:13.000
+he hasn't read the paper well enough to know
+
+01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:15.000
+that the simulated communities
+
+01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:17.000
+have a coverage of 25 to 50 percent
+
+01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:19.000
+at best
+
+01:49:19.000 --> 01:49:21.000
+and he hasn't realized
+
+01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:23.000
+that they don't have a baseline
+
+01:49:23.000 --> 01:49:27.000
+so they have no idea
+
+01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:29.000
+what the distribution of these
+
+01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:31.000
+viruses and serotypes was
+
+01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:33.000
+in the background before the
+
+01:49:33.000 --> 01:49:35.000
+vaccination took place
+
+01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:37.000
+and he's working under the assumption
+
+01:49:37.000 --> 01:49:39.000
+that again
+
+01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:41.000
+the girls are clean and the boys are clean
+
+01:49:41.000 --> 01:49:43.000
+and then they are vaccinated
+
+01:49:43.000 --> 01:49:45.000
+and then they mix together sexually
+
+01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:47.000
+and then the boys
+
+01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:49.000
+if they're not vaccinated
+
+01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:51.000
+are the reservoirs
+
+01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:53.000
+from which these girls are getting the virus
+
+01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:55.000
+but again we're talking about
+
+01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:57.000
+vaccination penetration rate
+
+01:49:57.000 --> 01:49:59.000
+of like less than 50 percent
+
+01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:03.000
+so all the ideas that they're working with
+
+01:50:03.000 --> 01:50:05.000
+all the assumptions that they're working with
+
+01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:07.000
+are cartoon simple
+
+01:50:07.000 --> 01:50:09.000
+cartoon simple
+
+01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:11.000
+in the face
+
+01:50:11.000 --> 01:50:13.000
+of the paper
+
+01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:15.000
+which admits that the
+
+01:50:15.000 --> 01:50:17.000
+cartoon simple doesn't work here
+
+01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:19.000
+because we're not even able to test that
+
+01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:21.000
+there are hundreds
+
+01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:23.000
+of serotypes we only test
+
+01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:25.000
+for a few
+
+01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:27.000
+for 10
+
+01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:29.000
+and we look at how these 10 change
+
+01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:31.000
+even though we vaccinate from between
+
+01:50:31.000 --> 01:50:33.000
+two and nine
+
+01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:35.000
+a total number of
+
+01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:37.000
+serotypes
+
+01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:39.000
+and it gets worse
+
+01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:41.000
+the guy up here
+
+01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:43.000
+is about to drop the bomb
+
+01:50:43.000 --> 01:50:45.000
+of wait a minute
+
+01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:47.000
+virology is supposed to be like this
+
+01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:49.000
+virology is supposed to be like this
+
+01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:51.000
+so what does this mean?
+
+01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:53.000
+and they have no clue because
+
+01:50:53.000 --> 01:50:55.000
+again this is immunomethology
+
+01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:57.000
+the high fidelity is a lie
+
+01:50:57.000 --> 01:50:59.000
+the deep
+
+01:50:59.000 --> 01:51:03.000
+in depth understanding is a lie
+
+01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:05.000
+the application of all of these
+
+01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:07.000
+complicated biological
+
+01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:09.000
+phenomenon that apply to species
+
+01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:11.000
+in evolution
+
+01:51:11.000 --> 01:51:13.000
+in ecosystems and applying it to
+
+01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:15.000
+virus and virus phenomenon
+
+01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:17.000
+is a lie
+
+01:51:19.000 --> 01:51:21.000
+that's the dissonance that you see
+
+01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:23.000
+this guy dealing with
+
+01:51:23.000 --> 01:51:25.000
+in real time
+
+01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:27.000
+as he realizes that a lot of this
+
+01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:29.000
+mythology
+
+01:51:29.000 --> 01:51:31.000
+has been proven wrong
+
+01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:33.000
+a lot of these assumptions
+
+01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:35.000
+that his career is based
+
+01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:37.000
+on have been proven wrong
+
+01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:39.000
+are being proven wrong
+
+01:51:39.000 --> 01:51:41.000
+in real time
+
+01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:43.000
+the HPV vaccine
+
+01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:45.000
+doesn't work like the polio vaccine
+
+01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:47.000
+did when this guy was a kid
+
+01:51:47.000 --> 01:51:49.000
+it doesn't work like the measles
+
+01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:51.000
+vaccine works like this
+
+01:51:51.000 --> 01:51:53.000
+guy was a kid
+
+01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:55.000
+it just doesn't
+
+01:51:55.000 --> 01:51:57.000
+work like the vaccine of a
+
+01:51:57.000 --> 01:51:59.000
+self-limiting disease
+
+01:51:59.000 --> 01:52:01.000
+for which natural immunity
+
+01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:03.000
+can be formed by infection
+
+01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:07.000
+and if there were ever
+
+01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:09.000
+any working examples of a
+
+01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:11.000
+vaccine that was successful
+
+01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:13.000
+it would be a vaccine made
+
+01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:15.000
+from an attenuated
+
+01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:17.000
+virus a chemically weakened
+
+01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:19.000
+virus
+
+01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:21.000
+and exposure to it at a
+
+01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:23.000
+barrier
+
+01:52:23.000 --> 01:52:25.000
+that intramuscular
+
+01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:27.000
+injection of it
+
+01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:29.000
+or that in a combination
+
+01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:31.000
+of adjuvant substances
+
+01:52:31.000 --> 01:52:33.000
+no, no, no
+
+01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:35.000
+an Allen Dove
+
+01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:37.000
+is not going to realize it
+
+01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:39.000
+in his lifetime
+
+01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:41.000
+he is a skilled TV watcher
+
+01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:43.000
+until the last person around him
+
+01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:45.000
+comes to this conclusion
+
+01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:47.000
+he will live in this boat
+
+01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:49.000
+they're not spreading them to the girls
+
+01:52:49.000 --> 01:52:51.000
+who got vaccinated
+
+01:52:51.000 --> 01:52:53.000
+but, you know, that's my theory
+
+01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:55.000
+that's not really something that the data speak to
+
+01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:57.000
+but I think that's at least gave me
+
+01:52:57.000 --> 01:52:59.000
+a little explanation that could work
+
+01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:01.000
+so that means
+
+01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:03.000
+the ones that got vaccinated
+
+01:53:03.000 --> 01:53:05.000
+are they still susceptible to the one
+
+01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:07.000
+the strains that were not included in the vaccine, right?
+
+01:53:07.000 --> 01:53:09.000
+did they convert?
+
+01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:11.000
+do they look at that?
+
+01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:13.000
+let's see, the analysis is
+
+01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:15.000
+let's look at the methods, hang on
+
+01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:17.000
+methods except the document
+
+01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:19.000
+is this serology or
+
+01:53:19.000 --> 01:53:21.000
+well, people infected with
+
+01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:23.000
+any of the HPV's
+
+01:53:23.000 --> 01:53:25.000
+don't they eventually develop antibodies
+
+01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:27.000
+but the antibodies aren't protective
+
+01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:29.000
+because the genome is already inside
+
+01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:31.000
+holding up like a plasmid in cells
+
+01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:33.000
+or is that, did I just remember that
+
+01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:35.000
+Sarah prevalence, yeah, that's how they look here
+
+01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:37.000
+we're looking at antibodies to the different types
+
+01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:39.000
+so if you have antibodies to 16
+
+01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:41.000
+you're not protected against any of the other types
+
+01:53:41.000 --> 01:53:43.000
+so I wonder
+
+01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:45.000
+if you actually caught that
+
+01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:47.000
+well, I didn't realize I was an onscreen
+
+01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:49.000
+so Alan Dove
+
+01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:51.000
+basically again just drops the ball
+
+01:53:51.000 --> 01:53:53.000
+and admits that he doesn't know anything about
+
+01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:55.000
+what he's talking about
+
+01:53:55.000 --> 01:53:57.000
+but he's trying to pretend that he's in authority
+
+01:53:57.000 --> 01:53:59.000
+and this guy up here
+
+01:53:59.000 --> 01:54:01.000
+is still having problems with the idea that
+
+01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:03.000
+wait, there are really a lot of
+
+01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:05.000
+serotypes
+
+01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:07.000
+and we're only vaccinating against a few of them
+
+01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:09.000
+so you guys are talking about ecology
+
+01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:11.000
+you're predicting an outcome
+
+01:54:11.000 --> 01:54:13.000
+and did they see this outcome?
+
+01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:15.000
+and the reality is
+
+01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:17.000
+is that they are still trying to read the paper
+
+01:54:17.000 --> 01:54:19.000
+in real time to find out exactly
+
+01:54:19.000 --> 01:54:21.000
+how this outcome was reached
+
+01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:23.000
+and they still haven't gotten to the paragraph
+
+01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:25.000
+that I read to you earlier
+
+01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:27.000
+where they say
+
+01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:29.000
+that the way that they reach these conclusions
+
+01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:31.000
+is by creating a synthetic data set
+
+01:54:31.000 --> 01:54:33.000
+that was at least 10 times larger
+
+01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:35.000
+than the original data set from which it was derived
+
+01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:41.000
+I would ask, if they haven't asked
+
+01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:43.000
+the people who were protected against the cancer
+
+01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:45.000
+inducing strains of HPV
+
+01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:47.000
+were still susceptible to the none
+
+01:54:47.000 --> 01:54:49.000
+cancer-producing HPV?
+
+01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:51.000
+did they convert or not?
+
+01:54:51.000 --> 01:54:53.000
+No, they didn't because the ones
+
+01:54:53.000 --> 01:54:55.000
+in these cohorts that were vaccinated against the cancer-causing types
+
+01:54:55.000 --> 01:54:57.000
+they saw an increase in
+
+01:54:57.000 --> 01:54:59.000
+seroconversion against the ones that were not in the vaccine
+
+01:54:59.000 --> 01:55:01.000
+so they're clearly getting infected because they're making input
+
+01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:03.000
+Right, so they do, they seroconvert against
+
+01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:05.000
+the ones that were not in the vaccine against 52 and 66
+
+01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:07.000
+they don't seroconvert against 16 and 18
+
+01:55:07.000 --> 01:55:09.000
+that weren't in the vaccine
+
+01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:11.000
+if they weren't vaccinated
+
+01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:13.000
+Does that make sense?
+
+01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:15.000
+You get the vaccine, you're going to have antibodies to those
+
+01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:17.000
+I'm not sure how they sorted the two out
+
+01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:19.000
+but obviously there's a way to do it
+
+01:55:19.000 --> 01:55:21.000
+Let's look
+
+01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:23.000
+if you want to say 16 and 18
+
+01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:25.000
+is declining in prevalence
+
+01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:27.000
+based on serology
+
+01:55:27.000 --> 01:55:29.000
+that means that
+
+01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:31.000
+you're getting contracted antibodies
+
+01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:33.000
+naturally, so that's
+
+01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:35.000
+even if you've been immunized with 16 and 18
+
+01:55:35.000 --> 01:55:37.000
+and eventually those antibodies will go down
+
+01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:39.000
+unless you're re-infected, those antibodies will go down
+
+01:55:39.000 --> 01:55:41.000
+unless circulation of those types
+
+01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:43.000
+whereas you see higher levels of antibodies against the non-vaccine
+
+01:55:43.000 --> 01:55:45.000
+included types than you're saying
+
+01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:47.000
+those are circulating in the community and they're infecting our subjects
+
+01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:49.000
+That's right, but they're not
+
+01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:51.000
+It's really unbelievable, right?
+
+01:55:51.000 --> 01:55:53.000
+This contradiction and this
+
+01:55:53.000 --> 01:55:55.000
+this doesn't
+
+01:55:55.000 --> 01:55:57.000
+compute to any of the people on the screen
+
+01:55:57.000 --> 01:55:59.000
+and they're still just trying to rationalize it
+
+01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:01.000
+making sense
+
+01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:03.000
+Let me reiterate
+
+01:56:03.000 --> 01:56:07.000
+They use seroprevalence to decide whether or not these people have been infected by these
+
+01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:09.000
+of HPV
+
+01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:13.000
+but the vaccine
+
+01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:15.000
+the only way they can measure
+
+01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:17.000
+whether or not the vaccine works
+
+01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:19.000
+is looking for seroprevalence responses
+
+01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:21.000
+to the vaccine
+
+01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:23.000
+So the assumption
+
+01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:25.000
+is that if they vaccinate you against
+
+01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:27.000
+9 serotypes of HPV
+
+01:56:27.000 --> 01:56:29.000
+that you will have
+
+01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:31.000
+9 different antibodies
+
+01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:33.000
+in circulation responding to
+
+01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:37.000
+those 9 different serotypes of HPV
+
+01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:41.000
+but then when they look for seroprevalence for
+
+01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:43.000
+against all of these viruses
+
+01:56:43.000 --> 01:56:47.000
+they find a decreased seroprevalence to
+
+01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:49.000
+the viruses
+
+01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:51.000
+that you were vaccinated to and an increased
+
+01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:53.000
+seroprevalence to the
+
+01:56:53.000 --> 01:56:55.000
+to the viruses which are present
+
+01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:57.000
+in those people
+
+01:56:57.000 --> 01:56:59.000
+So they use the signal
+
+01:56:59.000 --> 01:57:01.000
+for immunity
+
+01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:05.000
+to also indicate the presence of the virus
+
+01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:09.000
+which is really quite
+
+01:57:09.000 --> 01:57:11.000
+extraordinary
+
+01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:13.000
+They don't have
+
+01:57:13.000 --> 01:57:15.000
+actually any data according to their read
+
+01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:17.000
+on the prevalence of
+
+01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:19.000
+viruses. They have
+
+01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:21.000
+data on the prevalence of
+
+01:57:21.000 --> 01:57:23.000
+seroprevalence to
+
+01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:25.000
+particular serotypes
+
+01:57:25.000 --> 01:57:27.000
+of human papilloma virus
+
+01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:29.000
+and they only have
+
+01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:31.000
+the capability of testing for about
+
+01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:33.000
+10 of those
+
+01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:37.000
+conditions
+
+01:57:37.000 --> 01:57:39.000
+And so they're just kind of casually laughing
+
+01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:41.000
+about how I wonder how they differentiate
+
+01:57:41.000 --> 01:57:43.000
+between antibodies from the vaccine
+
+01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:45.000
+and antibodies from exposure to
+
+01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:47.000
+the types that they're trying to eliminate
+
+01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:49.000
+Can they tell the difference between
+
+01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:51.000
+them? I guess they must have been able to
+
+01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:53.000
+let's read about it. They must have done it
+
+01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:55.000
+somewhere and then they never come to a conclusion
+
+01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:57.000
+and Alan Dubbs fine with that
+
+01:57:57.000 --> 01:57:59.000
+They're not causing cancer
+
+01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:01.000
+They're not causing cancer
+
+01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:03.000
+unless you're re-infected
+
+01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:05.000
+those antibodies will go down and that will
+
+01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:07.000
+support your idea that there's less circulation
+
+01:58:07.000 --> 01:58:09.000
+of those types
+
+01:58:09.000 --> 01:58:11.000
+and whereas you see higher levels of antibodies
+
+01:58:11.000 --> 01:58:13.000
+against the non-vaccine included types
+
+01:58:13.000 --> 01:58:15.000
+than you're saying those are circulating in the community
+
+01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:17.000
+and they're infecting our subjects
+
+01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:19.000
+But they're not causing cancer
+
+01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:21.000
+They're not causing cancer
+
+01:58:21.000 --> 01:58:23.000
+They're not causing cancer
+
+01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:25.000
+That's the question
+
+01:58:25.000 --> 01:58:27.000
+The assumption is
+
+01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:29.000
+that any data
+
+01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:31.000
+that they have
+
+01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:33.000
+on these particular
+
+01:58:33.000 --> 01:58:35.000
+serotypes
+
+01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:37.000
+is real
+
+01:58:37.000 --> 01:58:39.000
+That's the assumption
+
+01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:41.000
+It's the assumption
+
+01:58:41.000 --> 01:58:43.000
+that's made on all of these papers
+
+01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:45.000
+all of the time
+
+01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:47.000
+is that
+
+01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:49.000
+the distribution
+
+01:58:49.000 --> 01:58:51.000
+of the variable in question
+
+01:58:51.000 --> 01:58:53.000
+obviously must be this
+
+01:58:53.000 --> 01:58:57.000
+So if we don't find what we expect
+
+01:58:57.000 --> 01:58:59.000
+then obviously
+
+01:58:59.000 --> 01:59:01.000
+what we find is a result of
+
+01:59:01.000 --> 01:59:03.000
+the manipulation that we made
+
+01:59:03.000 --> 01:59:07.000
+and what none of these biologists and what
+
+01:59:07.000 --> 01:59:09.000
+so many academic biologists
+
+01:59:09.000 --> 01:59:11.000
+are trained not to do
+
+01:59:11.000 --> 01:59:13.000
+is to wonder
+
+01:59:13.000 --> 01:59:17.000
+too long about what the initial condition really was
+
+01:59:17.000 --> 01:59:19.000
+To assume
+
+01:59:19.000 --> 01:59:21.000
+that the initial condition is something
+
+01:59:21.000 --> 01:59:23.000
+that you could imagine
+
+01:59:23.000 --> 01:59:25.000
+like the initial condition of these children
+
+01:59:25.000 --> 01:59:27.000
+well obviously
+
+01:59:27.000 --> 01:59:29.000
+since these are sexually transmitted viruses
+
+01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:31.000
+and these are kids
+
+01:59:31.000 --> 01:59:33.000
+in their early teens
+
+01:59:33.000 --> 01:59:35.000
+that haven't had sex
+
+01:59:35.000 --> 01:59:37.000
+obviously they have no HPV
+
+01:59:37.000 --> 01:59:39.000
+viruses and no HPV
+
+01:59:39.000 --> 01:59:41.000
+seroprevalence
+
+01:59:41.000 --> 01:59:43.000
+detectable by our tests
+
+01:59:43.000 --> 01:59:45.000
+So we don't need to test them
+
+01:59:45.000 --> 01:59:47.000
+on the day that we vaccinate them
+
+01:59:47.000 --> 01:59:49.000
+We'll test them four years later
+
+01:59:49.000 --> 01:59:53.000
+and none of these biologists
+
+01:59:53.000 --> 01:59:55.000
+are sophisticated enough
+
+01:59:55.000 --> 01:59:57.000
+except for maybe the guy in the upper right
+
+01:59:57.000 --> 01:59:59.000
+to understand how ridiculously
+
+01:59:59.000 --> 02:00:01.000
+inaccurate
+
+02:00:01.000 --> 02:00:03.000
+and unscientific it would be
+
+02:00:03.000 --> 02:00:05.000
+to claim that the data that you
+
+02:00:05.000 --> 02:00:07.000
+collect at four years out
+
+02:00:07.000 --> 02:00:09.000
+and eight years out
+
+02:00:09.000 --> 02:00:11.000
+has anything to do with what you did
+
+02:00:11.000 --> 02:00:13.000
+at time zero
+
+02:00:13.000 --> 02:00:15.000
+in a small portion
+
+02:00:15.000 --> 02:00:17.000
+of the total population in which you looked
+
+02:00:17.000 --> 02:00:19.000
+and yet somehow or another
+
+02:00:19.000 --> 02:00:21.000
+these guys have made
+
+02:00:21.000 --> 02:00:23.000
+made a theater
+
+02:00:23.000 --> 02:00:25.000
+a presentation
+
+02:00:25.000 --> 02:00:27.000
+about an illusion of consensus
+
+02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:29.000
+that this is a real
+
+02:00:29.000 --> 02:00:31.000
+dataset with real
+
+02:00:31.000 --> 02:00:33.000
+results that are
+
+02:00:33.000 --> 02:00:35.000
+interpretable as
+
+02:00:35.000 --> 02:00:37.000
+indicating
+
+02:00:37.000 --> 02:00:39.000
+that HPV vaccination
+
+02:00:39.000 --> 02:00:41.000
+in teenagers
+
+02:00:41.000 --> 02:00:43.000
+depending on whether you do it in girls
+
+02:00:43.000 --> 02:00:45.000
+or in boys has differential effect
+
+02:00:45.000 --> 02:00:47.000
+on the ecology
+
+02:00:47.000 --> 02:00:49.000
+of human papilloma virus
+
+02:00:49.000 --> 02:00:51.000
+distribution among teenagers
+
+02:00:55.000 --> 02:00:57.000
+and it's really just a synthetic
+
+02:00:57.000 --> 02:00:59.000
+generated dataset
+
+02:00:59.000 --> 02:01:01.000
+based on an incomplete
+
+02:01:05.000 --> 02:01:07.000
+observation set
+
+02:01:09.000 --> 02:01:11.000
+and now what you need to understand is
+
+02:01:11.000 --> 02:01:13.000
+that almost all
+
+02:01:13.000 --> 02:01:15.000
+biology about
+
+02:01:15.000 --> 02:01:17.000
+vaccine-targetable disease
+
+02:01:17.000 --> 02:01:19.000
+about all biology
+
+02:01:19.000 --> 02:01:21.000
+based on
+
+02:01:21.000 --> 02:01:23.000
+augmenting the immune system
+
+02:01:23.000 --> 02:01:25.000
+is done with a similar
+
+02:01:25.000 --> 02:01:27.000
+level of obfuscation
+
+02:01:27.000 --> 02:01:29.000
+exaggeration
+
+02:01:29.000 --> 02:01:31.000
+oversimplification
+
+02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:33.000
+and over complication
+
+02:01:33.000 --> 02:01:35.000
+it's these combinations of
+
+02:01:35.000 --> 02:01:37.000
+enchantments that allow them to make
+
+02:01:37.000 --> 02:01:39.000
+statements which move
+
+02:01:39.000 --> 02:01:41.000
+biosecurity states which can
+
+02:01:41.000 --> 02:01:43.000
+move secret meetings which can
+
+02:01:43.000 --> 02:01:45.000
+move trillions of dollars
+
+02:01:45.000 --> 02:01:47.000
+behind the scenes
+
+02:01:47.000 --> 02:01:49.000
+based on oversimplification
+
+02:01:49.000 --> 02:01:51.000
+over exaggeration
+
+02:01:51.000 --> 02:01:53.000
+over complication
+
+02:01:53.000 --> 02:01:57.000
+and a semantic war
+
+02:01:57.000 --> 02:01:59.000
+where we take known
+
+02:01:59.000 --> 02:02:01.000
+and understood biological
+
+02:02:01.000 --> 02:02:03.000
+phenomenon that exists on the species level
+
+02:02:03.000 --> 02:02:05.000
+and try to apply it to an
+
+02:02:05.000 --> 02:02:07.000
+RNA phenomenon
+
+02:02:07.000 --> 02:02:09.000
+or even a DNA
+
+02:02:09.000 --> 02:02:11.000
+phenomenon
+
+02:02:11.000 --> 02:02:13.000
+which is wholly
+
+02:02:13.000 --> 02:02:15.000
+and equivalent to species
+
+02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:17.000
+level and ecosystem
+
+02:02:17.000 --> 02:02:19.000
+level phenomenon as we understand them
+
+02:02:19.000 --> 02:02:21.000
+in macrobiology
+
+02:02:21.000 --> 02:02:23.000
+and while
+
+02:02:23.000 --> 02:02:25.000
+the old man in the upper right is really
+
+02:02:25.000 --> 02:02:27.000
+feeling the grinding
+
+02:02:27.000 --> 02:02:29.000
+of the gears here as they have
+
+02:02:29.000 --> 02:02:31.000
+this very inaccurate, very
+
+02:02:31.000 --> 02:02:33.000
+imprecise discussion
+
+02:02:33.000 --> 02:02:35.000
+about a very
+
+02:02:35.000 --> 02:02:37.000
+pretty crappy paper
+
+02:02:37.000 --> 02:02:39.000
+trying to laud it
+
+02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:41.000
+as bonafide
+
+02:02:41.000 --> 02:02:43.000
+example of
+
+02:02:43.000 --> 02:02:45.000
+vaccine effectiveness
+
+02:02:47.000 --> 02:02:49.000
+it's brutal
+
+02:02:49.000 --> 02:02:51.000
+but this is how the war is waged
+
+02:02:51.000 --> 02:02:53.000
+this is how it's done
+
+02:02:53.000 --> 02:02:55.000
+this is the actual battlefield
+
+02:02:55.000 --> 02:02:57.000
+right here
+
+02:02:57.000 --> 02:02:59.000
+and this is why Gigoen biological
+
+02:02:59.000 --> 02:03:01.000
+is going to have years of work to do
+
+02:03:01.000 --> 02:03:03.000
+this breaking down
+
+02:03:03.000 --> 02:03:05.000
+needs to happen every day
+
+02:03:05.000 --> 02:03:07.000
+all the time
+
+02:03:07.000 --> 02:03:09.000
+constantly
+
+02:03:09.000 --> 02:03:11.000
+until people start to catch on
+
+02:03:11.000 --> 02:03:13.000
+and do it with me
+
+02:03:13.000 --> 02:03:15.000
+until people start to catch on
+
+02:03:15.000 --> 02:03:17.000
+and do it as well as me
+
+02:03:17.000 --> 02:03:19.000
+until this starts to catch on
+
+02:03:19.000 --> 02:03:21.000
+as a thing that people do
+
+02:03:21.000 --> 02:03:23.000
+until these people stop
+
+02:03:23.000 --> 02:03:25.000
+doing what they're doing
+
+02:03:25.000 --> 02:03:27.000
+because this is part of
+
+02:03:27.000 --> 02:03:29.000
+the apparatus that
+
+02:03:29.000 --> 02:03:31.000
+misleads doctors
+
+02:03:31.000 --> 02:03:33.000
+that underpins the assumptions
+
+02:03:33.000 --> 02:03:35.000
+that the conclusions
+
+02:03:35.000 --> 02:03:37.000
+that doctors assume are certain
+
+02:03:37.000 --> 02:03:39.000
+are caused
+
+02:03:39.000 --> 02:03:41.000
+by these kinds of discussions
+
+02:03:41.000 --> 02:03:43.000
+these people whose
+
+02:03:43.000 --> 02:03:45.000
+academic responsibility has been
+
+02:03:45.000 --> 02:03:47.000
+abdicated
+
+02:03:47.000 --> 02:03:49.000
+by their own incompetence
+
+02:03:49.000 --> 02:03:51.000
+by their own lack of curiosity
+
+02:03:53.000 --> 02:03:55.000
+every one of these gentlemen
+
+02:03:55.000 --> 02:03:57.000
+should and ladies should be upset
+
+02:03:57.000 --> 02:03:59.000
+and ashamed of themselves
+
+02:03:59.000 --> 02:04:01.000
+for having been
+
+02:04:01.000 --> 02:04:03.000
+in their chair for that long
+
+02:04:03.000 --> 02:04:05.000
+and having learned so little
+
+02:04:05.000 --> 02:04:07.000
+on their own.
+
+02:04:07.000 --> 02:04:09.000
+Let me say that again
+
+02:04:09.000 --> 02:04:11.000
+every one of these people
+
+02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:13.000
+in these chairs and almost
+
+02:04:13.000 --> 02:04:15.000
+all the academic biologists
+
+02:04:15.000 --> 02:04:17.000
+currently sitting
+
+02:04:17.000 --> 02:04:19.000
+in a tenure-track position
+
+02:04:19.000 --> 02:04:21.000
+should be ashamed of themselves
+
+02:04:21.000 --> 02:04:23.000
+because they have abdicated
+
+02:04:23.000 --> 02:04:25.000
+their responsibilities
+
+02:04:25.000 --> 02:04:27.000
+as professional biologists
+
+02:04:27.000 --> 02:04:29.000
+to understand the biology
+
+02:04:29.000 --> 02:04:31.000
+of vaccination and to understand
+
+02:04:31.000 --> 02:04:33.000
+that it has been
+
+02:04:33.000 --> 02:04:35.000
+oversimplified
+
+02:04:35.000 --> 02:04:37.000
+it has been grossly exaggerated
+
+02:04:37.000 --> 02:04:39.000
+ineffectiveness and value
+
+02:04:39.000 --> 02:04:41.000
+and we have contorted it
+
+02:04:41.000 --> 02:04:43.000
+into a
+
+02:04:43.000 --> 02:04:45.000
+a gigantic criminal
+
+02:04:45.000 --> 02:04:47.000
+enterprise
+
+02:04:47.000 --> 02:04:49.000
+and it is absolutely
+
+02:04:49.000 --> 02:04:51.000
+criminally negligent to
+
+02:04:51.000 --> 02:04:53.000
+intramuscular inject
+
+02:04:53.000 --> 02:04:55.000
+intramuscularly inject
+
+02:04:55.000 --> 02:04:57.000
+any combination of substances
+
+02:04:57.000 --> 02:04:59.000
+in the vaccine system
+
+02:04:59.000 --> 02:05:01.000
+it is definitely criminally negligent
+
+02:05:01.000 --> 02:05:03.000
+and it is only because
+
+02:05:03.000 --> 02:05:05.000
+doctors don't understand the biology
+
+02:05:05.000 --> 02:05:07.000
+it is only because
+
+02:05:07.000 --> 02:05:09.000
+the NIAID and the vaccine center
+
+02:05:09.000 --> 02:05:11.000
+and all these people
+
+02:05:11.000 --> 02:05:13.000
+have obfuscated the truth
+
+02:05:13.000 --> 02:05:15.000
+of the biology of the immune system
+
+02:05:15.000 --> 02:05:17.000
+that they don't understand
+
+02:05:17.000 --> 02:05:19.000
+you can't
+
+02:05:19.000 --> 02:05:21.000
+you have to follow these
+
+02:05:21.000 --> 02:05:23.000
+and suddenly in vaccinated people
+
+02:05:23.000 --> 02:05:25.000
+we start to see cancer as HPV
+
+02:05:25.000 --> 02:05:27.000
+that is causing them
+
+02:05:27.000 --> 02:05:29.000
+Absolutely
+
+02:05:29.000 --> 02:05:31.000
+I've been trying to figure out
+
+02:05:31.000 --> 02:05:33.000
+the answer to Dixon's question
+
+02:05:33.000 --> 02:05:35.000
+which I think is interesting
+
+02:05:35.000 --> 02:05:37.000
+which is what is the geographic
+
+02:05:37.000 --> 02:05:39.000
+distribution of the different types
+
+02:05:39.000 --> 02:05:41.000
+around the world
+
+02:05:41.000 --> 02:05:43.000
+and while I found various titles
+
+02:05:43.000 --> 02:05:45.000
+and hits that seemed like they were
+
+02:05:45.000 --> 02:05:47.000
+going to be informative
+
+02:05:47.000 --> 02:05:49.000
+I didn't find anything that really addresses
+
+02:05:49.000 --> 02:05:51.000
+that question
+
+02:05:51.000 --> 02:05:53.000
+how many types are all together
+
+02:05:53.000 --> 02:05:55.000
+and I was going to say a hundred
+
+02:05:55.000 --> 02:05:57.000
+and yet only these two
+
+02:05:57.000 --> 02:05:59.000
+it's more than 200 so again
+
+02:05:59.000 --> 02:06:01.000
+the virology professor of the world
+
+02:06:01.000 --> 02:06:03.000
+has no idea how many serotypes
+
+02:06:03.000 --> 02:06:05.000
+there are and more importantly
+
+02:06:05.000 --> 02:06:07.000
+he's going to try to avoid saying
+
+02:06:07.000 --> 02:06:09.000
+that all the other biological
+
+02:06:09.000 --> 02:06:11.000
+principles apply to human
+
+02:06:11.000 --> 02:06:13.000
+papilloma virus but the guy in the upper
+
+02:06:13.000 --> 02:06:15.000
+right is not going to let him get away
+
+02:06:15.000 --> 02:06:17.000
+around the world are responsible
+
+02:06:17.000 --> 02:06:19.000
+for the surgical cancer
+
+02:06:19.000 --> 02:06:21.000
+and why is this guy down here
+
+02:06:21.000 --> 02:06:23.000
+Alan Dove at the bottom saying nine
+
+02:06:23.000 --> 02:06:25.000
+when we started out the discussion
+
+02:06:25.000 --> 02:06:27.000
+he was sure it was just two
+
+02:06:27.000 --> 02:06:29.000
+and then surely behind me here
+
+02:06:29.000 --> 02:06:31.000
+says no it's also 36 and 38
+
+02:06:31.000 --> 02:06:33.000
+oh yeah that's right
+
+02:06:33.000 --> 02:06:35.000
+and then later on five to ten
+
+02:06:35.000 --> 02:06:37.000
+minutes later it's oh yeah there's nine
+
+02:06:37.000 --> 02:06:39.000
+of them now
+
+02:06:39.000 --> 02:06:41.000
+and so now he says like yeah
+
+02:06:41.000 --> 02:06:43.000
+it's nine as if he knew
+
+02:06:43.000 --> 02:06:45.000
+or he didn't learn it like 20 minutes
+
+02:06:45.000 --> 02:06:47.000
+ago
+
+02:06:47.000 --> 02:06:49.000
+this is the kind of arrogance
+
+02:06:49.000 --> 02:06:53.000
+that we need to fight against
+
+02:06:53.000 --> 02:06:57.000
+that's not a humble man
+
+02:06:57.000 --> 02:06:59.000
+that's a guy as I said before
+
+02:06:59.000 --> 02:07:01.000
+who's just waiting to repeat what he just
+
+02:07:01.000 --> 02:07:03.000
+heard so that he can sound smart again
+
+02:07:03.000 --> 02:07:05.000
+and he loves doing it
+
+02:07:05.000 --> 02:07:07.000
+he loves the one yard rushing
+
+02:07:07.000 --> 02:07:09.000
+touchdown
+
+02:07:09.000 --> 02:07:11.000
+with an offensive line
+
+02:07:11.000 --> 02:07:13.000
+of high schoolers against
+
+02:07:13.000 --> 02:07:15.000
+Pee Wee football
+
+02:07:15.000 --> 02:07:17.000
+he loves to be the running back
+
+02:07:17.000 --> 02:07:18.000
+in that scenario
+
+02:07:18.000 --> 02:07:20.000
+give me the ball coach
+
+02:07:20.000 --> 02:07:22.000
+I can happy to repeat the line
+
+02:07:26.000 --> 02:07:28.000
+but he's not willing to put his
+
+02:07:28.000 --> 02:07:30.000
+his academic you know
+
+02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:32.000
+and intellectual mind out on a cliff
+
+02:07:32.000 --> 02:07:34.000
+and think for himself
+
+02:07:35.000 --> 02:07:37.000
+but every time he hears a safe spot
+
+02:07:37.000 --> 02:07:39.000
+or a safe thing to say is correct
+
+02:07:39.000 --> 02:07:41.000
+or a safe thing that he thinks is certain
+
+02:07:41.000 --> 02:07:43.000
+he'll repeat it immediately
+
+02:07:43.000 --> 02:07:45.000
+and here he is saying
+
+02:07:45.000 --> 02:07:47.000
+yeah it's nine it's nine of them
+
+02:07:47.000 --> 02:07:49.000
+even though I didn't even know there was
+
+02:07:49.000 --> 02:07:51.000
+Gardasil nine until ten minutes ago
+
+02:07:51.000 --> 02:07:53.000
+yeah there's nine of them
+
+02:07:53.000 --> 02:07:54.000
+don't you know man?
+
+02:07:54.000 --> 02:07:56.000
+how many types are there altogether?
+
+02:07:56.000 --> 02:07:57.000
+that's another question
+
+02:07:57.000 --> 02:07:59.000
+oh there's at least I was going to say a hundred
+
+02:07:59.000 --> 02:08:01.000
+oh maybe yeah
+
+02:08:01.000 --> 02:08:03.000
+and yet only these two around the world
+
+02:08:03.000 --> 02:08:05.000
+are responsible for these
+
+02:08:05.000 --> 02:08:07.000
+well the nine
+
+02:08:07.000 --> 02:08:09.000
+I'm at the right
+
+02:08:09.000 --> 02:08:11.000
+and potentially more than that
+
+02:08:11.000 --> 02:08:13.000
+I mean there's the high on cryogenic and the low on cryogenic
+
+02:08:13.000 --> 02:08:15.000
+and even high risk and low risk
+
+02:08:15.000 --> 02:08:17.000
+and ontogenicity
+
+02:08:17.000 --> 02:08:19.000
+are based on almost no data
+
+02:08:19.000 --> 02:08:21.000
+if not zero
+
+02:08:23.000 --> 02:08:25.000
+it's really the truth
+
+02:08:25.000 --> 02:08:27.000
+I challenge anybody go find it
+
+02:08:27.000 --> 02:08:29.000
+if you're a doctor, if you're a skeptic
+
+02:08:29.000 --> 02:08:31.000
+go find papers that show
+
+02:08:31.000 --> 02:08:33.000
+real data about HPV
+
+02:08:33.000 --> 02:08:35.000
+and cancer
+
+02:08:35.000 --> 02:08:37.000
+and which
+
+02:08:37.000 --> 02:08:39.000
+serotypes cause it
+
+02:08:39.000 --> 02:08:41.000
+which of the hundreds of
+
+02:08:41.000 --> 02:08:43.000
+serotypes known cause cancer
+
+02:08:43.000 --> 02:08:45.000
+and which don't
+
+02:08:45.000 --> 02:08:47.000
+which just cause warts
+
+02:08:47.000 --> 02:08:49.000
+which ones
+
+02:08:51.000 --> 02:08:53.000
+they're basically justifying
+
+02:08:53.000 --> 02:08:55.000
+a Merck product
+
+02:08:55.000 --> 02:08:57.000
+what else are they doing here
+
+02:08:57.000 --> 02:08:59.000
+but defending a Merck product
+
+02:08:59.000 --> 02:09:01.000
+with with with Glasgow Smith
+
+02:09:01.000 --> 02:09:03.000
+Klein intellectual property
+
+02:09:03.000 --> 02:09:05.000
+what else are they doing?
+
+02:09:05.000 --> 02:09:07.000
+they're not arguing for the biology of it
+
+02:09:07.000 --> 02:09:09.000
+they're not even arguing about the biology of it
+
+02:09:09.000 --> 02:09:11.000
+the whole premise is that it
+
+02:09:11.000 --> 02:09:13.000
+prevents cancer
+
+02:09:13.000 --> 02:09:15.000
+this is a story about
+
+02:09:15.000 --> 02:09:17.000
+seroprevalence to zero types
+
+02:09:17.000 --> 02:09:19.000
+extended through math
+
+02:09:21.000 --> 02:09:23.000
+that's what this is about
+
+02:09:23.000 --> 02:09:25.000
+it's not about anything to do with the actual biology
+
+02:09:25.000 --> 02:09:27.000
+that this vaccine purports to
+
+02:09:27.000 --> 02:09:29.000
+encroach on
+
+02:09:29.000 --> 02:09:31.000
+so it's unclear
+
+02:09:31.000 --> 02:09:33.000
+how far exactly we've gotten down the risk tree
+
+02:09:33.000 --> 02:09:35.000
+but with the nine valent
+
+02:09:35.000 --> 02:09:37.000
+it's pretty clear like
+
+02:09:37.000 --> 02:09:39.000
+maybe everything maybe there's going to have to be a 10 valent
+
+02:09:39.000 --> 02:09:41.000
+later when we discover that there are some
+
+02:09:41.000 --> 02:09:43.000
+rare situations where one of these others can be cancerous
+
+02:09:43.000 --> 02:09:45.000
+you know so that's possible
+
+02:09:45.000 --> 02:09:47.000
+but this guy literally learned
+
+02:09:47.000 --> 02:09:49.000
+this biology and the course of
+
+02:09:49.000 --> 02:09:51.000
+this discussion he's talking like he
+
+02:09:51.000 --> 02:09:53.000
+he's the the jeopardy champion
+
+02:09:53.000 --> 02:09:55.000
+of HPV biology
+
+02:09:55.000 --> 02:09:57.000
+it's really sad
+
+02:09:59.000 --> 02:10:01.000
+I mean if I was on this
+
+02:10:01.000 --> 02:10:03.000
+Twiv thing I would be like hey Alan why don't you
+
+02:10:03.000 --> 02:10:05.000
+chill out a little bit you didn't even know about
+
+02:10:05.000 --> 02:10:07.000
+these are the
+
+02:10:07.000 --> 02:10:09.000
+these are the
+
+02:10:09.000 --> 02:10:11.000
+these are the big concerns
+
+02:10:11.000 --> 02:10:13.000
+okay so there are over 100 different types of
+
+02:10:13.000 --> 02:10:15.000
+HPV not all of them cause health problems
+
+02:10:15.000 --> 02:10:17.000
+some kinds may cause problems like genital warts
+
+02:10:17.000 --> 02:10:19.000
+some kinds can also cause cancer of the cervix
+
+02:10:19.000 --> 02:10:21.000
+vagina vulva or anus
+
+02:10:21.000 --> 02:10:23.000
+most of these problems are caused by type 611 16 or 18
+
+02:10:23.000 --> 02:10:25.000
+November 1st FDA
+
+02:10:25.000 --> 02:10:27.000
+oh so
+
+02:10:27.000 --> 02:10:29.000
+she found a document from the FDA
+
+02:10:29.000 --> 02:10:31.000
+which clears up
+
+02:10:31.000 --> 02:10:33.000
+this whole thing about the 200 plus
+
+02:10:33.000 --> 02:10:36.000
+zero types and whether they cause cancer or not
+
+02:10:36.000 --> 02:10:37.000
+gee thanks
+
+02:10:39.000 --> 02:10:41.000
+over 100 okay
+
+02:10:41.000 --> 02:10:43.000
+and they're classified at the high risk low risk
+
+02:10:43.000 --> 02:10:45.000
+and no risk no no observe risk
+
+02:10:45.000 --> 02:10:47.000
+no observe risk right
+
+02:10:47.000 --> 02:10:49.000
+one two three four five six
+
+02:10:49.000 --> 02:10:51.000
+seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen high risk
+
+02:10:51.000 --> 02:10:53.000
+so not all the high risk are in the vaccine because
+
+02:10:53.000 --> 02:10:55.000
+I think that just there's not enough infections
+
+02:10:55.000 --> 02:10:57.000
+right but maybe that could change right
+
+02:10:57.000 --> 02:10:59.000
+yeah and it's like well like or a
+
+02:10:59.000 --> 02:11:01.000
+for angel cancer people now talk about HPV
+
+02:11:01.000 --> 02:11:03.000
+causing it but
+
+02:11:03.000 --> 02:11:05.000
+if you go back 30 or 40 years
+
+02:11:05.000 --> 02:11:07.000
+HPV was not really a big topic of conversation for
+
+02:11:07.000 --> 02:11:09.000
+oral for angel cancer because the overwhelming majority of it
+
+02:11:09.000 --> 02:11:11.000
+was caused by smoking right and when smoking rates
+
+02:11:11.000 --> 02:11:13.000
+came down thanks to you know finally
+
+02:11:13.000 --> 02:11:15.000
+calling out the tobacco companies to account
+
+02:11:15.000 --> 02:11:17.000
+the you know that
+
+02:11:17.000 --> 02:11:19.000
+then revealed oh yeah by the way there are
+
+02:11:19.000 --> 02:11:21.000
+a lot of cases out there that aren't caused
+
+02:11:21.000 --> 02:11:23.000
+right so you didn't see those because there
+
+02:11:23.000 --> 02:11:25.000
+was so much else going on and it's possible with
+
+02:11:25.000 --> 02:11:27.000
+with these cancer causing HPV's
+
+02:11:27.000 --> 02:11:29.000
+now that you get the vaccine when that's gotten
+
+02:11:29.000 --> 02:11:31.000
+wide enough uptake we'll get to a point where we'll say
+
+02:11:31.000 --> 02:11:33.000
+okay we got most of it and now
+
+02:11:33.000 --> 02:11:35.000
+there are these remaining ones and as I say that might
+
+02:11:35.000 --> 02:11:37.000
+be time to add more to the
+
+02:11:37.000 --> 02:11:39.000
+vaccine but this is certainly proven
+
+02:11:39.000 --> 02:11:41.000
+a very very successful strategy
+
+02:11:41.000 --> 02:11:43.000
+a very very successful strategy
+
+02:11:43.000 --> 02:11:45.000
+it's proven a very very successful strategy
+
+02:11:45.000 --> 02:11:47.000
+I'm going to give you another example
+
+02:11:47.000 --> 02:11:49.000
+of how numbers can
+
+02:11:49.000 --> 02:11:51.000
+be distorted in a very
+
+02:11:51.000 --> 02:11:53.000
+disingenuous way that is
+
+02:11:53.000 --> 02:11:55.000
+not unlike what is being done here
+
+02:11:55.000 --> 02:11:59.000
+if you were a politician in Chicago you might make
+
+02:11:59.000 --> 02:12:03.000
+the statement that gun deaths in Chicago are on a decline
+
+02:12:03.000 --> 02:12:07.000
+and over the last 10 years they've been on a great decline
+
+02:12:07.000 --> 02:12:11.000
+and so a lot of the policing process and the policing
+
+02:12:11.000 --> 02:12:13.000
+in Chicago has been successful
+
+02:12:13.000 --> 02:12:15.000
+and that would be ridiculous statement
+
+02:12:15.000 --> 02:12:17.000
+for one reason and one reason only
+
+02:12:17.000 --> 02:12:19.000
+the reason why gun deaths have gone down in Chicago
+
+02:12:19.000 --> 02:12:23.000
+is because the ERs have become better at saving people
+
+02:12:23.000 --> 02:12:27.000
+from dying from gunshot wounds
+
+02:12:27.000 --> 02:12:29.000
+they've become better at treating gunshot wounds
+
+02:12:29.000 --> 02:12:31.000
+than they were 10 years ago
+
+02:12:31.000 --> 02:12:35.000
+and so the number of gunshot deaths has gone down in Chicago
+
+02:12:35.000 --> 02:12:37.000
+over the last 20 years
+
+02:12:37.000 --> 02:12:41.000
+but the number of gunshot wounds has gone skyrocketing
+
+02:12:43.000 --> 02:12:45.000
+and so in a very
+
+02:12:45.000 --> 02:12:47.000
+weird limited way
+
+02:12:47.000 --> 02:12:49.000
+depending on who you measure
+
+02:12:49.000 --> 02:12:51.000
+and how you simulate it
+
+02:12:51.000 --> 02:12:53.000
+what math tools you use
+
+02:12:53.000 --> 02:12:55.000
+you can create a dataset
+
+02:12:55.000 --> 02:12:57.000
+or a synthetic dataset
+
+02:12:57.000 --> 02:12:59.000
+which gives the illusion of change
+
+02:12:59.000 --> 02:13:01.000
+an illusion of change
+
+02:13:01.000 --> 02:13:03.000
+which logically
+
+02:13:03.000 --> 02:13:05.000
+when told as a story or a mythology
+
+02:13:05.000 --> 02:13:09.000
+seems to correlate well with the expectations
+
+02:13:09.000 --> 02:13:11.000
+of your manipulation of the system
+
+02:13:11.000 --> 02:13:13.000
+in this case the idea is
+
+02:13:13.000 --> 02:13:15.000
+is that the serial prevalence
+
+02:13:15.000 --> 02:13:19.000
+of oncogenic strains of HPV
+
+02:13:19.000 --> 02:13:21.000
+in our simulation
+
+02:13:21.000 --> 02:13:23.000
+based on a small subset of real data
+
+02:13:23.000 --> 02:13:25.000
+seems to indicate
+
+02:13:25.000 --> 02:13:27.000
+that the serial prevalence
+
+02:13:27.000 --> 02:13:29.000
+the serial prevalence
+
+02:13:29.000 --> 02:13:31.000
+not the actual presence
+
+02:13:31.000 --> 02:13:33.000
+of but the serial prevalence
+
+02:13:33.000 --> 02:13:35.000
+to some of these strains
+
+02:13:35.000 --> 02:13:37.000
+changes over time in these communities
+
+02:13:37.000 --> 02:13:39.000
+when we simulate them
+
+02:13:39.000 --> 02:13:43.000
+at the four and eight-year mark
+
+02:13:43.000 --> 02:13:45.000
+that's what they should be saying
+
+02:13:45.000 --> 02:13:47.000
+that's what it should say in the abstract
+
+02:13:47.000 --> 02:13:49.000
+and say in the conclusions
+
+02:13:49.000 --> 02:13:51.000
+and in fact
+
+02:13:51.000 --> 02:13:53.000
+what is it saying the conclusions
+
+02:13:53.000 --> 02:13:55.000
+it says previously
+
+02:13:55.000 --> 02:13:57.000
+we modeled from observed HPV
+
+02:13:57.000 --> 02:13:59.000
+vaccine trial data
+
+02:13:59.000 --> 02:14:01.000
+and showed the need
+
+02:14:01.000 --> 02:14:03.000
+to opt for general neutral
+
+02:14:03.000 --> 02:14:05.000
+HPV vaccination strategies
+
+02:14:05.000 --> 02:14:07.000
+to realistically meet
+
+02:14:07.000 --> 02:14:11.000
+the who targeted eradication
+
+02:14:11.000 --> 02:14:13.000
+of oncogenic HPV's
+
+02:14:13.000 --> 02:14:15.000
+hold on a minute
+
+02:14:15.000 --> 02:14:17.000
+are you kidding me?
+
+02:14:21.000 --> 02:14:23.000
+this is what I'm reading
+
+02:14:23.000 --> 02:14:25.000
+previously we modeled
+
+02:14:25.000 --> 02:14:27.000
+from observed HPV
+
+02:14:27.000 --> 02:14:29.000
+vaccine trial data and showed
+
+02:14:29.000 --> 02:14:31.000
+the need to adopt for general
+
+02:14:31.000 --> 02:14:33.000
+neutral HPV vaccination strategies
+
+02:14:33.000 --> 02:14:35.000
+to realistically meet
+
+02:14:35.000 --> 02:14:37.000
+the who targeted eradication
+
+02:14:37.000 --> 02:14:39.000
+of oncogenic HPV's
+
+02:14:39.000 --> 02:14:41.000
+that giant sentence says
+
+02:14:41.000 --> 02:14:43.000
+that we need to vaccinate
+
+02:14:43.000 --> 02:14:45.000
+both teenage girls
+
+02:14:45.000 --> 02:14:47.000
+and teenage boys
+
+02:14:47.000 --> 02:14:49.000
+in order to realistically
+
+02:14:49.000 --> 02:14:51.000
+meet the world health
+
+02:14:51.000 --> 02:14:53.000
+organization goal
+
+02:14:53.000 --> 02:14:55.000
+of eradicating oncogenic
+
+02:14:55.000 --> 02:14:57.000
+HPV's
+
+02:14:57.000 --> 02:14:59.000
+now we've just heard the
+
+02:14:59.000 --> 02:15:01.000
+Twivcast say that we don't know
+
+02:15:01.000 --> 02:15:03.000
+if these other
+
+02:15:03.000 --> 02:15:05.000
+possibly 200 or more
+
+02:15:05.000 --> 02:15:07.000
+serial prevalence
+
+02:15:07.000 --> 02:15:09.000
+types of HPV are not responsible
+
+02:15:09.000 --> 02:15:11.000
+for generating cancer
+
+02:15:11.000 --> 02:15:13.000
+we just know that a few of them
+
+02:15:13.000 --> 02:15:15.000
+have been associated with
+
+02:15:15.000 --> 02:15:17.000
+cancer in the studies that we've done
+
+02:15:17.000 --> 02:15:19.000
+and yet here we are
+
+02:15:19.000 --> 02:15:21.000
+not talking about the biology
+
+02:15:21.000 --> 02:15:23.000
+but talking about a world health
+
+02:15:23.000 --> 02:15:25.000
+organization goal of eradicating
+
+02:15:25.000 --> 02:15:27.000
+oncogenic HPV's
+
+02:15:27.000 --> 02:15:29.000
+so to control oncogenic
+
+02:15:29.000 --> 02:15:31.000
+HPV's and related cancers
+
+02:15:31.000 --> 02:15:33.000
+we need to understand
+
+02:15:33.000 --> 02:15:35.000
+the evolutionary dynamic
+
+02:15:35.000 --> 02:15:37.000
+of these oncoviruses
+
+02:15:37.000 --> 02:15:39.000
+are they oncoviruses?
+
+02:15:39.000 --> 02:15:41.000
+we're just calling them
+
+02:15:41.000 --> 02:15:43.000
+oncoviruses because
+
+02:15:43.000 --> 02:15:45.000
+that makes
+
+02:15:45.000 --> 02:15:47.000
+well it makes things simpler
+
+02:15:47.000 --> 02:15:49.000
+it makes the assumption
+
+02:15:49.000 --> 02:15:51.000
+an enchantment
+
+02:15:51.000 --> 02:15:53.000
+we already know this
+
+02:15:53.000 --> 02:15:55.000
+don't we?
+
+02:15:55.000 --> 02:15:57.000
+no we don't
+
+02:15:57.000 --> 02:15:59.000
+but we're going to call them
+
+02:15:59.000 --> 02:16:01.000
+oncoviruses so that it seems like
+
+02:16:01.000 --> 02:16:03.000
+we do we made a whole term
+
+02:16:03.000 --> 02:16:05.000
+for HPV viruses that cause
+
+02:16:05.000 --> 02:16:07.000
+cancer it's an oncovirus
+
+02:16:07.000 --> 02:16:09.000
+under long-term vaccine
+
+02:16:09.000 --> 02:16:11.000
+induced selective pressure
+
+02:16:11.000 --> 02:16:13.000
+long-term vaccine induced
+
+02:16:13.000 --> 02:16:15.000
+selective pressure
+
+02:16:15.000 --> 02:16:17.000
+is a mythology for which
+
+02:16:17.000 --> 02:16:19.000
+there is no
+
+02:16:19.000 --> 02:16:21.000
+biological evidence
+
+02:16:21.000 --> 02:16:23.000
+including in this paper
+
+02:16:23.000 --> 02:16:25.000
+because
+
+02:16:25.000 --> 02:16:27.000
+here we
+
+02:16:27.000 --> 02:16:29.000
+estimate that low to moderate
+
+02:16:29.000 --> 02:16:31.000
+coverage
+
+02:16:31.000 --> 02:16:33.000
+HPV vaccination causes
+
+02:16:33.000 --> 02:16:35.000
+between
+
+02:16:35.000 --> 02:16:37.000
+5.5 and
+
+02:16:37.000 --> 02:16:39.000
+36.7 percent change
+
+02:16:39.000 --> 02:16:41.000
+in the genital HPV-type
+
+02:16:41.000 --> 02:16:43.000
+distribution
+
+02:16:43.000 --> 02:16:45.000
+we estimate
+
+02:16:45.000 --> 02:16:47.000
+that a
+
+02:16:47.000 --> 02:16:49.000
+low to moderate change
+
+02:16:49.000 --> 02:16:51.000
+from moderate coverage of HPV
+
+02:16:51.000 --> 02:16:53.000
+vaccination causes
+
+02:16:53.000 --> 02:16:55.000
+a 25 to 36 percent
+
+02:16:55.000 --> 02:16:57.000
+change in the genital HPV-type
+
+02:16:57.000 --> 02:16:59.000
+distributions
+
+02:16:59.000 --> 02:17:01.000
+in HPV vaccination communities
+
+02:17:01.000 --> 02:17:03.000
+the change mostly stems
+
+02:17:03.000 --> 02:17:05.000
+from a decrease in the occurrence
+
+02:17:05.000 --> 02:17:07.000
+of high-achogenicity
+
+02:17:07.000 --> 02:17:09.000
+vaccine-targeted HPV-types
+
+02:17:09.000 --> 02:17:11.000
+but particularly when
+
+02:17:11.000 --> 02:17:13.000
+implemented general
+
+02:17:13.000 --> 02:17:15.000
+neutral also a
+
+02:17:15.000 --> 02:17:17.000
+12 to 20 percent shift
+
+02:17:17.000 --> 02:17:19.000
+in low-achogenic
+
+02:17:19.000 --> 02:17:21.000
+non-vaccine-targeted
+
+02:17:21.000 --> 02:17:23.000
+HPV-types is observed
+
+02:17:23.000 --> 02:17:25.000
+while the eradication
+
+02:17:25.000 --> 02:17:27.000
+of HPV 16-18-31-45 will
+
+02:17:27.000 --> 02:17:29.000
+eliminate most cervical cancers
+
+02:17:29.000 --> 02:17:31.000
+these are not the
+
+02:17:31.000 --> 02:17:33.000
+seroprevalence numbers that were listed by them
+
+02:17:33.000 --> 02:17:35.000
+in the previous discussion
+
+02:17:35.000 --> 02:17:37.000
+they actually said
+
+02:17:37.000 --> 02:17:39.000
+what did they say
+
+02:17:39.000 --> 02:17:41.000
+618 something something
+
+02:17:41.000 --> 02:17:43.000
+and that's
+
+02:17:43.000 --> 02:17:45.000
+right so you didn't see those because there was so much
+
+02:17:45.000 --> 02:17:47.000
+by smoking
+
+02:17:47.000 --> 02:17:49.000
+surf risk
+
+02:17:49.000 --> 02:17:51.000
+surf risk
+
+02:17:51.000 --> 02:17:53.000
+rare situation
+
+02:17:53.000 --> 02:17:55.000
+listen to the numbers she says here
+
+02:17:55.000 --> 02:17:57.000
+that's possible but these are
+
+02:17:57.000 --> 02:17:59.000
+okay so there are over 100 different types of
+
+02:17:59.000 --> 02:18:01.000
+HPV not all of them cause health problems
+
+02:18:01.000 --> 02:18:03.000
+some kinds may cause problems like
+
+02:18:03.000 --> 02:18:05.000
+genital wards some kinds can also cause cancer
+
+02:18:05.000 --> 02:18:07.000
+of the cervix vagina vulva or anus
+
+02:18:07.000 --> 02:18:09.000
+most of these problems are caused by types
+
+02:18:09.000 --> 02:18:11.000
+6, 11, 16, or 18
+
+02:18:11.000 --> 02:18:13.000
+November 1st FDA
+
+02:18:13.000 --> 02:18:15.000
+6, 11, 16, or 18
+
+02:18:15.000 --> 02:18:17.000
+in a class of high-risk low risk
+
+02:18:17.000 --> 02:18:19.000
+no risk
+
+02:18:19.000 --> 02:18:21.000
+no surf risk so what are they talking about then right
+
+02:18:21.000 --> 02:18:23.000
+1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
+
+02:18:23.000 --> 02:18:25.000
+what this paper
+
+02:18:25.000 --> 02:18:27.000
+that they're reading
+
+02:18:27.000 --> 02:18:29.000
+in the conclusion says that
+
+02:18:29.000 --> 02:18:33.000
+while eradication of 16, 18,
+
+02:18:33.000 --> 02:18:35.000
+31, and 45 will eliminate
+
+02:18:35.000 --> 02:18:37.000
+most cervical cancers
+
+02:18:37.000 --> 02:18:39.000
+it is tempting to suggest that an increase
+
+02:18:39.000 --> 02:18:43.000
+of 33, 35, 51, 52, 56, and 66
+
+02:18:43.000 --> 02:18:45.000
+or the like
+
+02:18:45.000 --> 02:18:47.000
+with increased virulence might cause
+
+02:18:47.000 --> 02:18:49.000
+a risk of HPV related cancers in the future
+
+02:18:49.000 --> 02:18:51.000
+in other words
+
+02:18:51.000 --> 02:18:53.000
+eradicating some
+
+02:18:53.000 --> 02:18:55.000
+doesn't guarantee that the others
+
+02:18:55.000 --> 02:18:57.000
+won't cause cancer
+
+02:18:57.000 --> 02:18:59.000
+the correlation
+
+02:18:59.000 --> 02:19:01.000
+of these
+
+02:19:01.000 --> 02:19:03.000
+does not preclude
+
+02:19:03.000 --> 02:19:05.000
+the role of these
+
+02:19:05.000 --> 02:19:07.000
+in those same cancers
+
+02:19:07.000 --> 02:19:09.000
+it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of times
+
+02:19:09.000 --> 02:19:11.000
+when 16, 18, 31, 45,
+
+02:19:11.000 --> 02:19:13.000
+1, 6, whichever one you want to do
+
+02:19:13.000 --> 02:19:15.000
+is associated with cancer
+
+02:19:15.000 --> 02:19:17.000
+they don't do a complete screen
+
+02:19:17.000 --> 02:19:19.000
+to show definitively
+
+02:19:19.000 --> 02:19:21.000
+that none of these other sero types
+
+02:19:21.000 --> 02:19:23.000
+are present
+
+02:19:23.000 --> 02:19:25.000
+in this paper they fall woefully short
+
+02:19:25.000 --> 02:19:27.000
+of measuring 100, right?
+
+02:19:27.000 --> 02:19:29.000
+they only do like 10
+
+02:19:33.000 --> 02:19:35.000
+so the really crazy thing to see here
+
+02:19:35.000 --> 02:19:37.000
+ladies and gentlemen in this paper
+
+02:19:37.000 --> 02:19:39.000
+is this number
+
+02:19:39.000 --> 02:19:41.000
+that they use
+
+02:19:43.000 --> 02:19:45.000
+because the actual results
+
+02:19:45.000 --> 02:19:47.000
+of the paper
+
+02:19:47.000 --> 02:19:49.000
+are extraordinary
+
+02:19:49.000 --> 02:19:51.000
+where is it?
+
+02:19:53.000 --> 02:19:55.000
+I'm going to find this one
+
+02:19:55.000 --> 02:19:57.000
+number
+
+02:19:57.000 --> 02:19:59.000
+in the results
+
+02:19:59.000 --> 02:20:01.000
+that will just blow your mind
+
+02:20:01.000 --> 02:20:03.000
+because I do actually think
+
+02:20:03.000 --> 02:20:05.000
+that this is what they say
+
+02:20:05.000 --> 02:20:07.000
+in the paper
+
+02:20:07.000 --> 02:20:09.000
+in this discussion
+
+02:20:13.000 --> 02:20:15.000
+where is it?
+
+02:20:15.000 --> 02:20:17.000
+come on Jay, find it
+
+02:20:17.000 --> 02:20:19.000
+at least in your time like this
+
+02:20:23.000 --> 02:20:25.000
+maybe it's right away in the beginning
+
+02:20:25.000 --> 02:20:27.000
+it's so close to the start
+
+02:20:27.000 --> 02:20:29.000
+maybe that's why I found it right away
+
+02:20:33.000 --> 02:20:35.000
+so where is this data here
+
+02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:37.000
+we need that
+
+02:20:37.000 --> 02:20:39.000
+we need this
+
+02:20:39.000 --> 02:20:41.000
+yes here
+
+02:20:41.000 --> 02:20:43.000
+HPV prevalence
+
+02:20:43.000 --> 02:20:45.000
+oh no this was a different paper
+
+02:20:45.000 --> 02:20:47.000
+okay sorry I'm looking for something
+
+02:20:47.000 --> 02:20:49.000
+that's not in this paper
+
+02:20:49.000 --> 02:20:51.000
+I'm going to show you that paper tomorrow
+
+02:20:51.000 --> 02:20:53.000
+I apologize
+
+02:20:53.000 --> 02:20:55.000
+I don't think it's this paper
+
+02:20:55.000 --> 02:20:57.000
+no it's not it can't be this paper
+
+02:20:57.000 --> 02:20:59.000
+it is a paper that they cited
+
+02:20:59.000 --> 02:21:01.000
+which paper did they cite
+
+02:21:01.000 --> 02:21:03.000
+that I looked that up in
+
+02:21:07.000 --> 02:21:09.000
+what paper was it?
+
+02:21:09.000 --> 02:21:11.000
+it's one of these first here
+
+02:21:11.000 --> 02:21:13.000
+documenting its health
+
+02:21:13.000 --> 02:21:15.000
+infectious agent
+
+02:21:15.000 --> 02:21:17.000
+eight years what is this one?
+
+02:21:17.000 --> 02:21:19.000
+nineteen
+
+02:21:19.000 --> 02:21:21.000
+is that the one? no
+
+02:21:21.000 --> 02:21:23.000
+which one
+
+02:21:23.000 --> 02:21:25.000
+is it?
+
+02:21:25.000 --> 02:21:27.000
+okay well anyway
+
+02:21:27.000 --> 02:21:29.000
+there's a paper that I wanted to look at
+
+02:21:29.000 --> 02:21:31.000
+that I won't look at now
+
+02:21:31.000 --> 02:21:33.000
+because it's taken me too long to find it
+
+02:21:33.000 --> 02:21:35.000
+which basically is one of the papers
+
+02:21:35.000 --> 02:21:37.000
+that that cell micro paper
+
+02:21:37.000 --> 02:21:39.000
+has providing proof
+
+02:21:39.000 --> 02:21:41.000
+that vaccination reduces
+
+02:21:41.000 --> 02:21:43.000
+cancer
+
+02:21:43.000 --> 02:21:45.000
+and in that paper
+
+02:21:45.000 --> 02:21:47.000
+the results of the
+
+02:21:47.000 --> 02:21:49.000
+let's say significant
+
+02:21:49.000 --> 02:21:51.000
+result of the vaccine
+
+02:21:51.000 --> 02:21:53.000
+is a 19%
+
+02:21:53.000 --> 02:21:55.000
+increase in
+
+02:21:55.000 --> 02:21:57.000
+cervical cancer
+
+02:21:57.000 --> 02:21:59.000
+in the unvaccinated group
+
+02:21:59.000 --> 02:22:01.000
+with a 95%
+
+02:22:01.000 --> 02:22:03.000
+confidence interval which extends above
+
+02:22:03.000 --> 02:22:05.000
+and below one
+
+02:22:05.000 --> 02:22:07.000
+basically means that by their
+
+02:22:07.000 --> 02:22:09.000
+confidence interval
+
+02:22:09.000 --> 02:22:11.000
+they're pretty sure with a 95%
+
+02:22:11.000 --> 02:22:13.000
+possibility they're pretty sure
+
+02:22:13.000 --> 02:22:15.000
+that either the vaccine
+
+02:22:15.000 --> 02:22:17.000
+reduces
+
+02:22:17.000 --> 02:22:19.000
+or increases the prevalence of
+
+02:22:19.000 --> 02:22:21.000
+cancer in those that receive it
+
+02:22:21.000 --> 02:22:23.000
+because again one
+
+02:22:23.000 --> 02:22:25.000
+is equivalence
+
+02:22:25.000 --> 02:22:27.000
+below one is that
+
+02:22:27.000 --> 02:22:29.000
+the vaccine causes
+
+02:22:29.000 --> 02:22:31.000
+more people to get cancer
+
+02:22:31.000 --> 02:22:33.000
+and above one
+
+02:22:33.000 --> 02:22:35.000
+means that it reduces their
+
+02:22:35.000 --> 02:22:37.000
+possibility of having cancer
+
+02:22:37.000 --> 02:22:39.000
+and their confidence
+
+02:22:39.000 --> 02:22:41.000
+intervals in their result
+
+02:22:41.000 --> 02:22:43.000
+of 1.19
+
+02:22:43.000 --> 02:22:45.000
+is a confidence interval
+
+02:22:45.000 --> 02:22:47.000
+that extends from one point
+
+02:22:47.000 --> 02:22:49.000
+something
+
+02:22:49.000 --> 02:22:51.000
+down to 0.8
+
+02:22:51.000 --> 02:22:53.000
+which means that
+
+02:22:53.000 --> 02:22:55.000
+they're about 95% sure
+
+02:22:55.000 --> 02:22:57.000
+that it either works or it doesn't
+
+02:22:57.000 --> 02:22:59.000
+and that is the one
+
+02:22:59.000 --> 02:23:01.000
+paper that is cited
+
+02:23:01.000 --> 02:23:03.000
+by this cell micro paper
+
+02:23:03.000 --> 02:23:05.000
+as you know these things
+
+02:23:05.000 --> 02:23:07.000
+are great at preventing cancer
+
+02:23:07.000 --> 02:23:09.000
+the same thing that
+
+02:23:09.000 --> 02:23:11.000
+Vincent started this whole discussion with
+
+02:23:11.000 --> 02:23:13.000
+that these are great strategy
+
+02:23:13.000 --> 02:23:15.000
+for
+
+02:23:15.000 --> 02:23:17.000
+preventing cancer.
+
+02:23:17.000 --> 02:23:19.000
+We don't even have
+
+02:23:19.000 --> 02:23:21.000
+people that are old enough
+
+02:23:21.000 --> 02:23:23.000
+to produce the data
+
+02:23:23.000 --> 02:23:25.000
+that's supposed to be there.
+
+02:23:25.000 --> 02:23:27.000
+We're just now getting to the point where
+
+02:23:27.000 --> 02:23:29.000
+any teenager that was vaccinated
+
+02:23:29.000 --> 02:23:31.000
+with this horrible idea of a product
+
+02:23:31.000 --> 02:23:33.000
+is getting into the range
+
+02:23:33.000 --> 02:23:35.000
+where they might develop it
+
+02:23:39.000 --> 02:23:41.000
+I'm going to kind of wrap it up here
+
+02:23:41.000 --> 02:23:43.000
+because I don't think there's any reason
+
+02:23:43.000 --> 02:23:45.000
+to let these people talk anymore
+
+02:23:45.000 --> 02:23:47.000
+but they might say a few more interesting things
+
+02:23:47.000 --> 02:23:49.000
+9, 10, 11, 12, 13 high risk
+
+02:23:49.000 --> 02:23:51.000
+so not all the high risk are in the vaccine
+
+02:23:51.000 --> 02:23:53.000
+because I think there's not enough infections
+
+02:23:53.000 --> 02:23:55.000
+but maybe that could change, right?
+
+02:23:55.000 --> 02:23:57.000
+Yeah and it's like
+
+02:23:57.000 --> 02:23:59.000
+we'll talk about HPV causing it
+
+02:23:59.000 --> 02:24:01.000
+but if you go back 30 or 40 years
+
+02:24:01.000 --> 02:24:03.000
+HPV was not really a big topic of conversation
+
+02:24:03.000 --> 02:24:05.000
+for oral for angel cancer because the overwhelming majority
+
+02:24:05.000 --> 02:24:07.000
+of the vaccine when that's gotten wide enough uptake
+
+02:24:07.000 --> 02:24:09.000
+will get to a point where we'll say
+
+02:24:09.000 --> 02:24:11.000
+okay we got most of it and now they're these
+
+02:24:11.000 --> 02:24:13.000
+remaining ones and as I say that might be time
+
+02:24:13.000 --> 02:24:15.000
+to add more to the vaccine
+
+02:24:15.000 --> 02:24:17.000
+but this is certainly proven a very very
+
+02:24:17.000 --> 02:24:19.000
+successful strategy
+
+02:24:19.000 --> 02:24:21.000
+and that's one of the issues for looking at
+
+02:24:21.000 --> 02:24:23.000
+this change in the if you'll allow it
+
+02:24:23.000 --> 02:24:25.000
+Dixen ecology of the
+
+02:24:25.000 --> 02:24:27.000
+other the other serotypes
+
+02:24:27.000 --> 02:24:29.000
+All right so I'm going to
+
+02:24:29.000 --> 02:24:31.000
+head to the discussion now because I find it easier
+
+02:24:31.000 --> 02:24:33.000
+to summarize the results from there
+
+02:24:33.000 --> 02:24:35.000
+so basically just to repeat
+
+02:24:35.000 --> 02:24:37.000
+so we find depletion of the high oncogene
+
+02:24:37.000 --> 02:24:39.000
+vaccine targeted type 16, 18, 31, 45
+
+02:24:39.000 --> 02:24:41.000
+and both gender neutral and girls only
+
+02:24:41.000 --> 02:24:43.000
+vaccination four years and six years after
+
+02:24:43.000 --> 02:24:45.000
+vaccination but eight years but at eight years
+
+02:24:45.000 --> 02:24:47.000
+they only see it in gender neutral but what they say is
+
+02:24:47.000 --> 02:24:49.000
+our most important finding that increased
+
+02:24:49.000 --> 02:24:51.000
+oncogenic HPV's diversity from 48 years
+
+02:24:51.000 --> 02:24:53.000
+post vaccination exclusively in gender neutral
+
+02:24:53.000 --> 02:24:55.000
+communities even though the high risk
+
+02:24:55.000 --> 02:24:57.000
+vaccine targeted
+
+02:24:57.000 --> 02:24:59.000
+viruses have been decreased in those
+
+02:24:59.000 --> 02:25:01.000
+communities and they write this is the first
+
+02:25:01.000 --> 02:25:03.000
+recorded sign of ecological niche occupation
+
+02:25:03.000 --> 02:25:05.000
+by the non-vaccinated HPV post population
+
+02:25:05.000 --> 02:25:07.000
+level vaccination some of these
+
+02:25:07.000 --> 02:25:09.000
+sentences are tough yeah I feel like this paper
+
+02:25:09.000 --> 02:25:11.000
+could have used a good copy edit in some parts
+
+02:25:11.000 --> 02:25:13.000
+I mean that when the first recorded
+
+02:25:13.000 --> 02:25:15.000
+sign of ecological niche occupation by the non-vaccinated
+
+02:25:15.000 --> 02:25:17.000
+HPV post population level vaccination
+
+02:25:17.000 --> 02:25:19.000
+there's a lot of parts there yeah
+
+02:25:19.000 --> 02:25:21.000
+if that was the title I would have rejected the paper
+
+02:25:21.000 --> 02:25:23.000
+the second quote sentence of the introduction
+
+02:25:23.000 --> 02:25:25.000
+isn't a sentence until you take out the word
+
+02:25:25.000 --> 02:25:27.000
+albeit yes yes there were sentences
+
+02:25:27.000 --> 02:25:29.000
+that I read four or five times there were several like that
+
+02:25:29.000 --> 02:25:31.000
+that I came to oh I see what they mean now
+
+02:25:31.000 --> 02:25:33.000
+okay but so they can't write a paper
+
+02:25:33.000 --> 02:25:35.000
+the paper is written in a very very
+
+02:25:35.000 --> 02:25:37.000
+inaccurate and imprecise way
+
+02:25:37.000 --> 02:25:39.000
+but they're still sure
+
+02:25:39.000 --> 02:25:41.000
+that they understand the implications
+
+02:25:41.000 --> 02:25:43.000
+of the paper even though they haven't
+
+02:25:43.000 --> 02:25:45.000
+even stated that the data
+
+02:25:45.000 --> 02:25:47.000
+that's that they're using to make
+
+02:25:47.000 --> 02:25:51.000
+their conclusions is synthetic
+
+02:25:51.000 --> 02:25:53.000
+did you
+
+02:25:53.000 --> 02:25:55.000
+did you I mean
+
+02:25:55.000 --> 02:25:59.000
+where did I put that paper now here
+
+02:25:59.000 --> 02:26:03.000
+I suppose I got rid of it right I closed it
+
+02:26:03.000 --> 02:26:05.000
+did I close that
+
+02:26:05.000 --> 02:26:07.000
+I guess I closed that window
+
+02:26:07.000 --> 02:26:09.000
+hold on let me pull this up again
+
+02:26:09.000 --> 02:26:11.000
+PDF
+
+02:26:11.000 --> 02:26:15.000
+we're here
+
+02:26:15.000 --> 02:26:17.000
+so let's see
+
+02:26:17.000 --> 02:26:19.000
+where was this
+
+02:26:19.000 --> 02:26:21.000
+paper the
+
+02:26:21.000 --> 02:26:25.000
+the methodology here right so
+
+02:26:25.000 --> 02:26:27.000
+that was this one this is where I read it
+
+02:26:27.000 --> 02:26:29.000
+I mean I'm not
+
+02:26:29.000 --> 02:26:31.000
+for figure three they had to do a
+
+02:26:31.000 --> 02:26:33.000
+simulation of community prevalence
+
+02:26:33.000 --> 02:26:35.000
+distribution by vaccination strategy
+
+02:26:35.000 --> 02:26:37.000
+so finally to comprehensive
+
+02:26:37.000 --> 02:26:39.000
+evaluate the community level
+
+02:26:39.000 --> 02:26:41.000
+HPV type diversity
+
+02:26:41.000 --> 02:26:43.000
+distribution between the trial arms
+
+02:26:43.000 --> 02:26:45.000
+they use this
+
+02:26:45.000 --> 02:26:47.000
+general independent
+
+02:26:47.000 --> 02:26:49.000
+or graphic independence network
+
+02:26:49.000 --> 02:26:51.000
+modeling
+
+02:26:51.000 --> 02:26:53.000
+and they simulated a
+
+02:26:53.000 --> 02:26:55.000
+data set
+
+02:26:55.000 --> 02:26:57.000
+simulated a distribution
+
+02:26:57.000 --> 02:26:59.000
+for a hundred thousand individuals
+
+02:26:59.000 --> 02:27:03.000
+and then they made their figure three
+
+02:27:03.000 --> 02:27:07.000
+based on that this figure three is based on that
+
+02:27:07.000 --> 02:27:11.000
+synthetic community level distribution
+
+02:27:11.000 --> 02:27:15.000
+it's beta diversity using synthetic data
+
+02:27:15.000 --> 02:27:19.000
+it's not really an
+
+02:27:19.000 --> 02:27:21.000
+observation that has much significance
+
+02:27:21.000 --> 02:27:23.000
+except for when they extended it using
+
+02:27:23.000 --> 02:27:27.000
+synthetic data
+
+02:27:27.000 --> 02:27:31.000
+that's the part that's most frustrating
+
+02:27:31.000 --> 02:27:35.000
+this data from the actual communities was not sufficient
+
+02:27:35.000 --> 02:27:39.000
+for them to demonstrate the effect that they claim to have observed
+
+02:27:39.000 --> 02:27:41.000
+that's really important
+
+02:27:41.000 --> 02:27:43.000
+it's really important because
+
+02:27:43.000 --> 02:27:45.000
+these these twib people
+
+02:27:45.000 --> 02:27:47.000
+aren't adequately
+
+02:27:47.000 --> 02:27:49.000
+describing the limitations of the paper
+
+02:27:49.000 --> 02:27:51.000
+even as they
+
+02:27:51.000 --> 02:27:53.000
+they pretend to have this discussion
+
+02:27:53.000 --> 02:27:55.000
+about what's wrong with it or
+
+02:27:55.000 --> 02:27:57.000
+they're not very good writers or they should have written it better
+
+02:27:57.000 --> 02:27:59.000
+it needs a copy editor
+
+02:28:01.000 --> 02:28:03.000
+it doesn't need a copy editor
+
+02:28:03.000 --> 02:28:05.000
+it needs somebody to adequately
+
+02:28:05.000 --> 02:28:07.000
+explain how much
+
+02:28:07.000 --> 02:28:09.000
+charlatanism and enchant
+
+02:28:09.000 --> 02:28:11.000
+and is being cast by such a paper
+
+02:28:13.000 --> 02:28:15.000
+how very little
+
+02:28:15.000 --> 02:28:17.000
+forward progress is made
+
+02:28:17.000 --> 02:28:19.000
+by such a paper
+
+02:28:19.000 --> 02:28:21.000
+how it's vital
+
+02:28:21.000 --> 02:28:23.000
+that no forward progress
+
+02:28:23.000 --> 02:28:25.000
+is made in this field in order
+
+02:28:25.000 --> 02:28:27.000
+for this mythology to be sustained
+
+02:28:29.000 --> 02:28:31.000
+and that's the role that this clown
+
+02:28:31.000 --> 02:28:33.000
+show plays
+
+02:28:33.000 --> 02:28:35.000
+that this handler
+
+02:28:35.000 --> 02:28:37.000
+is using these people for
+
+02:28:37.000 --> 02:28:39.000
+is using
+
+02:28:39.000 --> 02:28:41.000
+fame, perceived
+
+02:28:41.000 --> 02:28:43.000
+fame, perceived
+
+02:28:43.000 --> 02:28:45.000
+importance, perceived
+
+02:28:45.000 --> 02:28:47.000
+significance on the internet
+
+02:28:47.000 --> 02:28:49.000
+you know you're part of
+
+02:28:49.000 --> 02:28:51.000
+twiv, so you've got an obligation
+
+02:28:51.000 --> 02:28:53.000
+to get this right
+
+02:28:53.000 --> 02:28:55.000
+and this is the moderator right here
+
+02:28:55.000 --> 02:28:57.000
+the guy who is responsible for the first
+
+02:28:57.000 --> 02:28:59.000
+infectious clone of an RNA virus
+
+02:28:59.000 --> 02:29:01.000
+ever
+
+02:29:01.000 --> 02:29:03.000
+with his supervisor
+
+02:29:03.000 --> 02:29:05.000
+David Baltimore
+
+02:29:05.000 --> 02:29:07.000
+who I'm convinced is one of the
+
+02:29:07.000 --> 02:29:09.000
+granddaddy of all the liars
+
+02:29:09.000 --> 02:29:11.000
+in this group of people
+
+02:29:11.000 --> 02:29:13.000
+granddaddy of them all
+
+02:29:13.000 --> 02:29:15.000
+is David Baltimore
+
+02:29:15.000 --> 02:29:17.000
+if there's anyone who knows
+
+02:29:17.000 --> 02:29:19.000
+the truth about the lies
+
+02:29:19.000 --> 02:29:21.000
+of intramuscular injection
+
+02:29:21.000 --> 02:29:23.000
+and the augmenting of the immune system
+
+02:29:23.000 --> 02:29:25.000
+using adjuvants and recombinant proteins
+
+02:29:25.000 --> 02:29:27.000
+hits David Baltimore
+
+02:29:27.000 --> 02:29:29.000
+and his protégé
+
+02:29:29.000 --> 02:29:31.000
+Vincent Rancin yellow
+
+02:29:31.000 --> 02:29:33.000
+racking yellow
+
+02:29:33.000 --> 02:29:37.000
+excuse me
+
+02:29:37.000 --> 02:29:39.000
+that's enough of these characters I think
+
+02:29:39.000 --> 02:29:41.000
+let's just see if they end
+
+02:29:41.000 --> 02:29:43.000
+why are we looking at this because
+
+02:29:43.000 --> 02:29:45.000
+if other viruses arise
+
+02:29:45.000 --> 02:29:47.000
+to feel this niche then this could be a problem
+
+02:29:47.000 --> 02:29:49.000
+for vaccination and they say this has been
+
+02:29:49.000 --> 02:29:51.000
+observed with other viruses including hepatitis B virus right?
+
+02:29:51.000 --> 02:29:53.000
+SARS-CoV-2 we see antigenic variants
+
+02:29:53.000 --> 02:29:55.000
+arising and replacing others
+
+02:29:55.000 --> 02:29:57.000
+and so HPV's could have a similar pattern as well
+
+02:29:57.000 --> 02:29:59.000
+and in a more immediate sense
+
+02:29:59.000 --> 02:30:01.000
+we need to be aware of this for screening programs
+
+02:30:01.000 --> 02:30:03.000
+you have to make sure that your screening is specific enough
+
+02:30:03.000 --> 02:30:05.000
+that you're you know if you're going to say
+
+02:30:05.000 --> 02:30:07.000
+oh you know you've got evidence of a cancer causing virus
+
+02:30:07.000 --> 02:30:09.000
+this is the most awful part about it
+
+02:30:09.000 --> 02:30:11.000
+because essentially
+
+02:30:11.000 --> 02:30:15.000
+the only real public health data about
+
+02:30:15.000 --> 02:30:17.000
+who in papilloma virus and cancer
+
+02:30:17.000 --> 02:30:19.000
+is that like
+
+02:30:19.000 --> 02:30:21.000
+an incredible number of these cancers
+
+02:30:21.000 --> 02:30:25.000
+are essentially treated and avoided
+
+02:30:25.000 --> 02:30:27.000
+in regular screening
+
+02:30:27.000 --> 02:30:29.000
+and these vaccine pushing
+
+02:30:29.000 --> 02:30:33.000
+charlatans are saying that this is evidence
+
+02:30:33.000 --> 02:30:35.000
+for the paper
+
+02:30:35.000 --> 02:30:37.000
+argues that we might not
+
+02:30:37.000 --> 02:30:39.000
+need to screen as many people
+
+02:30:39.000 --> 02:30:41.000
+other people have argued that this means
+
+02:30:41.000 --> 02:30:43.000
+that we might need to screen people for different viruses
+
+02:30:43.000 --> 02:30:45.000
+or that we could screen them for viruses
+
+02:30:45.000 --> 02:30:47.000
+instead of for cancer because it's cheaper
+
+02:30:49.000 --> 02:30:51.000
+and here's Alan Dove
+
+02:30:51.000 --> 02:30:53.000
+right away running in for the
+
+02:30:53.000 --> 02:30:55.000
+one yard touchdown
+
+02:30:55.000 --> 02:30:57.000
+oh give me the ball
+
+02:30:57.000 --> 02:30:59.000
+I can push this one through
+
+02:30:59.000 --> 02:31:01.000
+and by the way
+
+02:31:01.000 --> 02:31:05.000
+it is absolutely disgusting
+
+02:31:05.000 --> 02:31:07.000
+make sure you've got the exact stereotype correct
+
+02:31:07.000 --> 02:31:09.000
+so that you don't have false alarms
+
+02:31:09.000 --> 02:31:11.000
+because you're going to have
+
+02:31:11.000 --> 02:31:13.000
+possibly these other these other stereotypes moving in
+
+02:31:13.000 --> 02:31:15.000
+another question that I would have as an economist
+
+02:31:15.000 --> 02:31:17.000
+here goes can a single person acquire
+
+02:31:17.000 --> 02:31:19.000
+several or ten different strains
+
+02:31:19.000 --> 02:31:21.000
+or whatever you're calling these
+
+02:31:21.000 --> 02:31:23.000
+variants of the couple of hours at the same time
+
+02:31:23.000 --> 02:31:25.000
+sure sure they can have
+
+02:31:25.000 --> 02:31:27.000
+ten different strains at the same time
+
+02:31:27.000 --> 02:31:29.000
+but we don't know how many they have
+
+02:31:29.000 --> 02:31:31.000
+and we assume that they only have one
+
+02:31:31.000 --> 02:31:33.000
+most of the time right Vincent
+
+02:31:33.000 --> 02:31:35.000
+we're not because the ecological
+
+02:31:35.000 --> 02:31:37.000
+concept of species
+
+02:31:37.000 --> 02:31:39.000
+is that no two species
+
+02:31:39.000 --> 02:31:41.000
+different can occupy the same dish
+
+02:31:41.000 --> 02:31:43.000
+only one species can occupy that niche
+
+02:31:43.000 --> 02:31:45.000
+typical co-infection with more than one type
+
+02:31:45.000 --> 02:31:47.000
+is common especially among young women
+
+02:31:47.000 --> 02:31:49.000
+common so that means common
+
+02:31:49.000 --> 02:31:51.000
+well then how in the world do they know
+
+02:31:51.000 --> 02:31:53.000
+that these oncogenic varieties
+
+02:31:53.000 --> 02:31:55.000
+are responsible if it's very common
+
+02:31:55.000 --> 02:31:57.000
+to have many serotypes
+
+02:31:57.000 --> 02:31:59.000
+on board
+
+02:31:59.000 --> 02:32:01.000
+these are not species
+
+02:32:01.000 --> 02:32:03.000
+they're varieties of the same type types
+
+02:32:03.000 --> 02:32:05.000
+so the use of that word ecological
+
+02:32:05.000 --> 02:32:07.000
+applies to species I'm sorry but that's a strict definition
+
+02:32:07.000 --> 02:32:09.000
+really? and that's exactly
+
+02:32:09.000 --> 02:32:11.000
+what I'm talking about
+
+02:32:11.000 --> 02:32:13.000
+you can't take these strict definitions
+
+02:32:13.000 --> 02:32:15.000
+with strict meanings and strict
+
+02:32:15.000 --> 02:32:17.000
+strict conceptual meaning
+
+02:32:17.000 --> 02:32:19.000
+and then apply them to something as limited
+
+02:32:19.000 --> 02:32:21.000
+and lame
+
+02:32:21.000 --> 02:32:23.000
+as an RNA or DNA virus
+
+02:32:23.000 --> 02:32:25.000
+for which we know their biology
+
+02:32:25.000 --> 02:32:27.000
+is greatly limited by their replication
+
+02:32:27.000 --> 02:32:29.000
+capacity and their lack of
+
+02:32:29.000 --> 02:32:31.000
+all these other attributes that we
+
+02:32:31.000 --> 02:32:33.000
+generally associate with
+
+02:32:33.000 --> 02:32:35.000
+pattern integrity is called life
+
+02:32:37.000 --> 02:32:39.000
+and here you see
+
+02:32:39.000 --> 02:32:41.000
+the malfunction of the machine with this
+
+02:32:41.000 --> 02:32:43.000
+grinning little clown down here
+
+02:32:43.000 --> 02:32:45.000
+who thinks it's funny that there's
+
+02:32:45.000 --> 02:32:47.000
+contradictions in the biology that they
+
+02:32:47.000 --> 02:32:49.000
+discuss and it's funny that it bothers
+
+02:32:49.000 --> 02:32:51.000
+that old man as much as it
+
+02:32:51.000 --> 02:32:53.000
+doesn't bother him
+
+02:32:53.000 --> 02:32:55.000
+because his little mushy brain
+
+02:32:55.000 --> 02:32:57.000
+is capable of juggling these words like
+
+02:32:57.000 --> 02:32:59.000
+this these contradictions are normal for
+
+02:32:59.000 --> 02:33:01.000
+him
+
+02:33:01.000 --> 02:33:03.000
+not normal for this old guy
+
+02:33:03.000 --> 02:33:05.000
+maybe this old guy is redeemable
+
+02:33:05.000 --> 02:33:07.000
+maybe this guy is going to leave
+
+02:33:07.000 --> 02:33:09.000
+to him in a few weeks because he starts
+
+02:33:09.000 --> 02:33:11.000
+to become convinced that something's not right
+
+02:33:11.000 --> 02:33:15.000
+absolutely
+
+02:33:15.000 --> 02:33:17.000
+why can't we be flexible Dickson?
+
+02:33:17.000 --> 02:33:19.000
+he was the one who came up with that
+
+02:33:19.000 --> 02:33:21.000
+Dickson, I like Dickson
+
+02:33:21.000 --> 02:33:23.000
+I think Dickson is my new favorite guy
+
+02:33:23.000 --> 02:33:25.000
+on Twiv and then they said
+
+02:33:25.000 --> 02:33:27.000
+I looked up the reference
+
+02:33:27.000 --> 02:33:29.000
+31 that they use for their guide
+
+02:33:29.000 --> 02:33:31.000
+and it's called ecological niche by
+
+02:33:31.000 --> 02:33:33.000
+a series of authors the Princeton guide to ecology
+
+02:33:33.000 --> 02:33:35.000
+that's their guide
+
+02:33:35.000 --> 02:33:37.000
+to say what on issues. I'm sorry
+
+02:33:37.000 --> 02:33:39.000
+the original concept of Disha was
+
+02:33:39.000 --> 02:33:41.000
+published by G. Evelyn Hutchinson
+
+02:33:41.000 --> 02:33:43.000
+and everybody else followed suit
+
+02:33:43.000 --> 02:33:45.000
+as they agreed with him but viruses don't
+
+02:33:45.000 --> 02:33:47.000
+occur as species right? No they don't
+
+02:33:47.000 --> 02:33:49.000
+so the word ecology probably is the wrong word
+
+02:33:49.000 --> 02:33:51.000
+no why don't we just change the definition of ecology
+
+02:33:51.000 --> 02:33:53.000
+there it is ladies and gentlemen
+
+02:33:53.000 --> 02:33:55.000
+there it is
+
+02:33:55.000 --> 02:33:57.000
+that's the clip for you for all time
+
+02:33:57.000 --> 02:33:59.000
+why don't we just change the definition
+
+02:33:59.000 --> 02:34:01.000
+of ecology then
+
+02:34:01.000 --> 02:34:03.000
+why don't we just change the
+
+02:34:03.000 --> 02:34:05.000
+correlative immunity then
+
+02:34:05.000 --> 02:34:07.000
+why don't we just change the definition
+
+02:34:07.000 --> 02:34:09.000
+why don't we just stop calling it
+
+02:34:09.000 --> 02:34:11.000
+transfection
+
+02:34:13.000 --> 02:34:15.000
+if you don't see it for the evil
+
+02:34:15.000 --> 02:34:17.000
+that it is that what they are saying right now
+
+02:34:17.000 --> 02:34:19.000
+right here is the home run of
+
+02:34:19.000 --> 02:34:21.000
+home runs that you need to hear nothing
+
+02:34:21.000 --> 02:34:25.000
+else you are being lied to
+
+02:34:25.000 --> 02:34:27.000
+by a series of charlatans
+
+02:34:27.000 --> 02:34:29.000
+that are misusing the language
+
+02:34:29.000 --> 02:34:33.000
+of biology to obfuscate their mythology
+
+02:34:33.000 --> 02:34:37.000
+that's what's happening here and Vincent
+
+02:34:37.000 --> 02:34:41.000
+Renson Yellow is a striking example of it
+
+02:34:41.000 --> 02:34:43.000
+in real time right here right now
+
+02:34:43.000 --> 02:34:45.000
+listen carefully
+
+02:34:45.000 --> 02:34:49.000
+after Dixon so eloquently explains why
+
+02:34:49.000 --> 02:34:51.000
+concepts like ecology and species
+
+02:34:51.000 --> 02:34:53.000
+and niche
+
+02:34:53.000 --> 02:34:55.000
+do not apply to a phenomenon
+
+02:34:55.000 --> 02:34:57.000
+like an RNA or DNA virus
+
+02:34:57.000 --> 02:34:59.000
+for which there are 20 plus
+
+02:34:59.000 --> 02:35:01.000
+or 100 plus
+
+02:35:01.000 --> 02:35:03.000
+or 200 plus
+
+02:35:03.000 --> 02:35:05.000
+serotypes that can all occupy
+
+02:35:05.000 --> 02:35:07.000
+the same niche at once
+
+02:35:07.000 --> 02:35:09.000
+hit in a niche
+
+02:35:09.000 --> 02:35:11.000
+what is Vincent Rask Rask Rask
+
+02:35:11.000 --> 02:35:13.000
+and Yellow say
+
+02:35:13.000 --> 02:35:15.000
+let's just change
+
+02:35:15.000 --> 02:35:17.000
+the definition of the word
+
+02:35:17.000 --> 02:35:19.000
+guide to say what on issues
+
+02:35:19.000 --> 02:35:21.000
+I'm sorry
+
+02:35:21.000 --> 02:35:23.000
+the original concept of dish was established
+
+02:35:23.000 --> 02:35:25.000
+by Gevlin Hutchinson and everybody else followed suit
+
+02:35:25.000 --> 02:35:27.000
+yes but they agreed with him but viruses don't occur
+
+02:35:27.000 --> 02:35:29.000
+no they don't know they don't so the word of
+
+02:35:29.000 --> 02:35:33.000
+probably is the wrong word no why don't we just change the definition of ecology
+
+02:35:33.000 --> 02:35:37.000
+I think you can do that but some people would be very upset if you did that
+
+02:35:37.000 --> 02:35:41.000
+there's another interesting point here though if you can have multiple infection
+
+02:35:41.000 --> 02:35:45.000
+why would eliminating HPV 1618 L that's a good question to a shift like this
+
+02:35:45.000 --> 02:35:49.000
+that's right right if they could all get along fine before exactly we wouldn't
+
+02:35:49.000 --> 02:35:53.000
+necessarily I wouldn't expect to see a shift so Alan Dove now has a
+
+02:35:53.000 --> 02:35:57.000
+completely different stance on things because his
+
+02:35:57.000 --> 02:35:59.000
+understanding of biology
+
+02:35:59.000 --> 02:36:01.000
+is so flexible
+
+02:36:01.000 --> 02:36:03.000
+I mean
+
+02:36:03.000 --> 02:36:07.000
+now he suddenly realizes that wait I mean if
+
+02:36:07.000 --> 02:36:11.000
+they're they can all be there at the same time then why don't they cause pressure
+
+02:36:11.000 --> 02:36:15.000
+obviously the phenomenon that we saw in this paper is due to
+
+02:36:15.000 --> 02:36:19.000
+selective in competition pressure because that's the only way we would see a phenomenon like this
+
+02:36:19.000 --> 02:36:23.000
+is exactly what Alan Dove said about 10 minutes ago
+
+02:36:23.000 --> 02:36:25.000
+in the video
+
+02:36:25.000 --> 02:36:29.000
+not 10 minutes ago on my stream but 10 minutes in the video he said
+
+02:36:29.000 --> 02:36:33.000
+that obviously they must be competing and that's why niche is a perfectly
+
+02:36:33.000 --> 02:36:37.000
+good use and that's why ecology is the right term and he laughed at Dixon
+
+02:36:37.000 --> 02:36:43.000
+now 10 minutes after discussing it and after re-ashing it and after discussing
+
+02:36:43.000 --> 02:36:48.000
+the paper a little more and reminding him about recombination and all this other stuff
+
+02:36:48.000 --> 02:36:52.000
+he now realizes oh wait maybe there shouldn't be and then why did we see this
+
+02:36:52.000 --> 02:36:54.000
+phenomenon wow that's very interesting
+
+02:36:58.000 --> 02:37:02.000
+we're not talking about diatoms and photosynthesis here Alan Dove
+
+02:37:02.000 --> 02:37:06.000
+we're talking about a multi-billion dollar product being hoisted
+
+02:37:06.000 --> 02:37:10.000
+on teenagers for no reason for no biology
+
+02:37:10.000 --> 02:37:14.000
+that's based in reality and you're just realizing it now
+
+02:37:14.000 --> 02:37:20.000
+live in front of people who are coming to you for informed consent on these things
+
+02:37:22.000 --> 02:37:32.000
+that's a failure that's a giant failure that's a gigantic failure
+
+02:37:32.000 --> 02:37:40.000
+ladies and gentlemen that's what that is that is a crash and burn failure of this system
+
+02:37:40.000 --> 02:37:46.000
+that is controlling us and we are seeing through it in real time
+
+02:37:47.000 --> 02:37:52.000
+and we are going to break this wheel in real time
+
+02:37:52.000 --> 02:37:56.000
+the way that we're going to break this wheel is by breaking down this plan that they had
+
+02:37:56.000 --> 02:38:02.000
+this theater that they had and breaking it down by doing the math that they don't want to do
+
+02:38:02.000 --> 02:38:07.000
+they want you to believe that there was a gain of function possibility
+
+02:38:07.000 --> 02:38:11.000
+that this whole thing came from the worst case scenario
+
+02:38:11.000 --> 02:38:15.000
+that it was a gain of function laboratory bio weapon that was released
+
+02:38:15.000 --> 02:38:19.000
+and there's this illusion of consensus that that's the reason why you were
+
+02:38:19.000 --> 02:38:23.000
+here not to blame for having been scared into taking the vaccine
+
+02:38:23.000 --> 02:38:27.000
+because this was the worst case scenario that they sent it to you
+
+02:38:27.000 --> 02:38:32.000
+and this illusion of consensus about a novel virus that killed millions of people
+
+02:38:32.000 --> 02:38:35.000
+that we saved millions of people from that was likely gain of function
+
+02:38:35.000 --> 02:38:39.000
+and that will come again this illusion of consensus is how they got us
+
+02:38:39.000 --> 02:38:43.000
+and the way that they sustain this illusion of consensus is by telling you
+
+02:38:43.000 --> 02:38:48.000
+the lie that everybody that died in excess in the last three years
+
+02:38:48.000 --> 02:38:52.000
+is a result of the mystery virus and the only way this lie works
+
+02:38:52.000 --> 02:38:55.000
+is if you don't talk about the do not resuscitate orders
+
+02:38:55.000 --> 02:38:57.000
+you don't talk about ventilators
+
+02:38:57.000 --> 02:39:00.000
+you don't talk about the lack of use of antibiotics
+
+02:39:00.000 --> 02:39:02.000
+you don't talk about the poor use of steroids
+
+02:39:02.000 --> 02:39:04.000
+you don't talk about remdesivir or medazlin
+
+02:39:04.000 --> 02:39:07.000
+you don't talk about the extra opioid deaths
+
+02:39:07.000 --> 02:39:09.000
+you don't talk about death certificate fraud
+
+02:39:09.000 --> 02:39:11.000
+you don't talk about all of this math
+
+02:39:11.000 --> 02:39:15.000
+about PCR fraud and lateral flow test fraud in the UK
+
+02:39:15.000 --> 02:39:19.000
+you don't talk about all of the illusion of virology
+
+02:39:19.000 --> 02:39:26.000
+you don't talk about all of the illusion of correlates of immunity
+
+02:39:26.000 --> 02:39:29.000
+and you just talk about a novel virus
+
+02:39:29.000 --> 02:39:33.000
+you just talk about the millions of people that were killed by the novel virus
+
+02:39:33.000 --> 02:39:37.000
+you just talk about gain of function and bioterrorism
+
+02:39:37.000 --> 02:39:39.000
+you just talk about how they're going to do it again
+
+02:39:43.000 --> 02:39:45.000
+that's how this was done
+
+02:39:45.000 --> 02:39:49.000
+you don't need a bioweapon to do this
+
+02:39:49.000 --> 02:39:53.000
+you need a spectacular commitment to this lie
+
+02:39:53.000 --> 02:39:59.000
+a spectacular commitment by these people to this lie
+
+02:39:59.000 --> 02:40:02.000
+is the illusion of consensus that has changed the way we think
+
+02:40:02.000 --> 02:40:04.000
+and trapped us in this illusion
+
+02:40:04.000 --> 02:40:10.000
+this scooby-doo mystery about trying to figure out whether it was a laboratory leak or a bat cave zoonosis
+
+02:40:10.000 --> 02:40:14.000
+that's what this faith is
+
+02:40:14.000 --> 02:40:18.000
+and figuring it out and finding the liars and blaming ego health alliances
+
+02:40:18.000 --> 02:40:21.000
+is all part of this mystery-solving game
+
+02:40:21.000 --> 02:40:25.000
+to brainwash yourself into believing this illusion of consensus
+
+02:40:25.000 --> 02:40:29.000
+and the way to break this illusion of consensus is to realize
+
+02:40:29.000 --> 02:40:33.000
+that the laboratory leak, the solving of it, was a mystery
+
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+the use had to solve
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+that allowed them to do all these things
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+under the guise of trying to do their best to solve this novel problem
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+that was never novel
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+02:40:43.000 --> 02:40:47.000
+and the illusion of consensus created by these people
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+is what brainwashed your family and friends
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+02:40:50.000 --> 02:40:52.000
+it brainwashed the people on TV
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+02:40:52.000 --> 02:40:54.000
+into believing this illusion of consensus
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+02:40:54.000 --> 02:40:56.000
+and it is a faith
+
+02:40:56.000 --> 02:40:58.000
+a novel virus
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+02:40:58.000 --> 02:40:59.000
+that's what it is
+
+02:40:59.000 --> 02:41:01.000
+call it for what it is
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+02:41:01.000 --> 02:41:03.000
+and the way that the faith isn't a lie
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+02:41:03.000 --> 02:41:05.000
+and it is very different
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+02:41:05.000 --> 02:41:07.000
+than saying that there are no viruses
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+02:41:07.000 --> 02:41:10.520
+if you say that there was an endemic background that they conflated
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+02:41:10.520 --> 02:41:13.000
+it is very different if you say the protocols are murder.
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+02:41:13.000 --> 02:41:15.000
+and a transfection is not medicine
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+and they conflated a background signal
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+it is very different if you murder
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+02:41:19.000 --> 02:41:28.000
+and a
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+02:41:28.000 --> 02:41:35.000
+is in medicine, it's a bioweapon and protocols are murder. But you're not going to survive
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+02:41:35.000 --> 02:41:39.120
+and you're not going to escape if you just say that there are no viruses and that they're
+
+02:41:39.120 --> 02:41:45.080
+lying about everything because they're not. There has to be some truth to the biology
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+02:41:45.080 --> 02:41:51.560
+or biologists wouldn't have been fooled. But the truth has to be really, really clever
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+02:41:51.560 --> 02:41:58.240
+lies. And that's what it is. It's infectious clones. The faith is a lie. There was a
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+background signal and there remains a background signal that can be conflated as a pandemic.
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+And if they had to release something or spray something or induce a signal, then the way
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+they would have done it will most likely and most easily is with infectious clones or even
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+transfection of the spike alone. But the faith in the novel virus is being sustained
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+by all the people that we that we currently call heroes right now. And you can see them
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+02:42:30.720 --> 02:42:38.520
+sustaining the faith because they don't address PCR fraud anymore. They don't address the
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+02:42:38.520 --> 02:42:43.960
+variant and sequencing fraud anymore. They have never known about the death certificate
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+02:42:43.960 --> 02:42:51.160
+fraud. They've never known about the RNA purity and the fact that it can't copy itself
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+the way that this story goes. They haven't talked about the problems with protein folding
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+and our inability to understand it in the implications for transfection. They haven't talked about
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+transfection in general and it's inappropriate, mis and healthy humans. And they're not talking
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+about natural immunity. They've never talked about immuno 101. They've never tried to
+
+02:43:09.000 --> 02:43:16.360
+give you a lecture about immuno 101. Giga ohm biological is the only one. Jonathan Cooey
+
+02:43:16.360 --> 02:43:23.240
+is the only biologist in three years that has attempted to teach immunology relative to this
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+02:43:23.240 --> 02:43:29.560
+pandemic and to dispel the myths and the mythology of it using biology. I'm the only one.
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+02:43:31.160 --> 02:43:35.880
+You want me to go down the list of people that hasn't done it that could have? It's long.
+
+02:43:36.600 --> 02:43:44.360
+Brett Weinstein didn't do it. Chris Martinson didn't do it. Heather Hayne didn't do it.
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+02:43:47.080 --> 02:43:52.680
+Peter McCullough didn't do it. Brian Cole didn't do it. Peter McCory didn't do it.
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+Robert Malone didn't do it. Judy Mikovitz hasn't done it.
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+I mean, how far do we have to go? How many people do you want me to list? Because it's all of them.
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+02:44:09.320 --> 02:44:14.600
+None of them have taught the biology of natural immunity. None of them have taught
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+02:44:15.640 --> 02:44:21.000
+the extent to which transfection is wholly inappropriate for healthy humans. None of them
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+02:44:21.640 --> 02:44:28.200
+have gone so far as to say that the vaccination schedule in America is a crime except for a very
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+02:44:28.200 --> 02:44:34.360
+few Tess Laurie, Corey Pierre Corey and Peter McCullough.
+
+02:44:38.680 --> 02:44:44.040
+It is a very small group of people that is really fighting the fight right now and everybody else
+
+02:44:44.040 --> 02:44:52.200
+is faking it. Wittingly or unwittingly. And so you need to share my stream. You need to get this
+
+02:44:52.280 --> 02:44:59.080
+in front of all of them so that they can either wake up and apologize and course correct immediately
+
+02:44:59.880 --> 02:45:04.040
+or they are put on alert that we actually know who they are.
+
+02:45:07.880 --> 02:45:12.840
+Because I'm done playing games with my children's future. This is just starting,
+
+02:45:12.840 --> 02:45:16.360
+ladies and gentlemen. My voice is just coming back.
+
+02:45:19.560 --> 02:45:23.720
+And I plan to exercise it a lot over the next couple of weeks, three weeks,
+
+02:45:23.720 --> 02:45:30.520
+four weeks, five weeks, five months, a year. I ain't stopping until this is stopped. I'm not
+
+02:45:30.520 --> 02:45:36.760
+stopping until the elimination of the control group is stopped. I'm not stopping until everyone
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+02:45:36.760 --> 02:45:41.480
+that is capable of understanding these two phrases understands them.
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+02:45:43.560 --> 02:45:45.160
+Until these are common knowledge.
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+02:45:47.560 --> 02:45:53.720
+Until it's common knowledge for a for a for an elementary school teacher to know this biology
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+02:45:53.720 --> 02:46:00.360
+and to teach it. I'm going to be working here again to go biological. As long as CHD will have
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+02:46:00.360 --> 02:46:09.080
+me, I'm going to be working for CHD because I think for the most part, although CHD would like
+
+02:46:09.080 --> 02:46:19.320
+to be a big top tent for health freedom. Health freedom is defined by this biology right here.
+
+02:46:20.120 --> 02:46:25.640
+That there is no useful way to augment the human immune system through intramuscular injection.
+
+02:46:25.720 --> 02:46:35.480
+And this, this criminally negligent bad idea and all of those responsible directly or indirectly
+
+02:46:35.480 --> 02:46:41.960
+for petri perpetuating it for the last 20 plus years are criminally negligent liable
+
+02:46:43.640 --> 02:46:50.840
+demons. And I'm going to spend the rest of my adult life teaching this biology until it's
+
+02:46:50.840 --> 02:46:59.400
+I'm blue in the face or dead. So welcome to the show. Welcome to the big show. That's where we are
+
+02:46:59.400 --> 02:47:08.760
+ladies and gentlemen. I believe it's much more likely if it's a lab lead. Stop lying. Stop lying.
+
+02:47:09.720 --> 02:47:14.920
+Stop lying. That's where we are ladies and gentlemen. Thanks very much for joining me and I will
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+02:47:14.920 --> 02:47:31.240
+see you again tomorrow night. I hope you're aware and realize that I have no no equalizer here.
+
+02:47:33.480 --> 02:47:39.080
+There's no equalizer on my voice right now. This is just a it's a microphone that's actually
+
+02:47:40.040 --> 02:47:44.040
+a condenser microphone that's distant right it's supposed to have a direction.
+
+02:47:45.480 --> 02:47:51.720
+And so it's just a mic and my voice is really back. It feels stronger than ever. I can finally
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+02:47:51.720 --> 02:47:56.840
+fill the gym during basketball practice and tell the boys what they're doing even when they're
+
+02:47:56.840 --> 02:48:02.040
+bouncing the ball. I basically have my old voice back and so I'm really really happy. I'm not
+
+02:48:02.040 --> 02:48:07.480
+going to be talking about it a lot anymore. But it was definitely worth taking the two weeks off
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+02:48:07.560 --> 02:48:14.040
+that I did for the recovery of my voice and also just getting everything reoriented for the basketball
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+season. And so there's going to be a little flexibility in terms of time but I'm either
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+02:48:18.760 --> 02:48:23.800
+going to be basically going at about four forty five or five o'clock or I'm going to be going at
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+02:48:23.800 --> 02:48:29.240
+about eight or eight thirty or nine o'clock. Just depending on the schedule at home I'm sorry
+
+02:48:29.240 --> 02:48:33.880
+but my priority is my family and so I am going to make it a priority to be here on daily but
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+02:48:34.440 --> 02:48:37.800
+the give and take of that is that there's got to be a little flexibility in the
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+02:48:37.800 --> 02:48:42.520
+schedule so you won't be able to always watch it live. But if you look for me every day you'll
+
+02:48:42.520 --> 02:48:49.800
+definitely find me. Thanks very much for joining me and I'll see you guys again tomorrow.
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+People everywhere are starting to listen to him.
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+It's embarrassing.
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+Stand by the wind.
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+That's one best story no one will believe.
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+Well, good evening. Thanks for joining us, Vin Dicty.
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+I'm glad you found me through Mark. That's about the best way you can find me.
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+That really makes me very happy.
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+So here we are, Gigo and biological Ohio resistance.
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+Low noise information brought to you by a biologist.
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+It is the 14th of November, 2023.
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+We are still basically working through the same noise and I'm going to be singing the same songs tonight.
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+Because we're still just kind of running on this gift here, you know.
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+It feels like we're just barely getting out of the cave as it collapses.
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+But somehow we're not making as much progress as I should because I think we're still trapped in this limited spectrum of debate.
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+So we've got to do something about that.
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+Sorry I had a little music problem there for a second.
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+I wasn't really sure what I was going to do, but of course I'm going to put on my favorite tune.
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+We need to learn our history.
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+That's what Mark has been helping us out with a lot.
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+It's always great to have somebody digging in the background as you try to sort out the cutting edge biology yourself and have no time at all to look back at the history of these charlatans.
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+But actually so much of what I've learned about the biology, about the immunomythology that these guys are pushing.
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+I have learned by following the links in their history.
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+And a lot of those links are provided by my friend Mark Gulak of his atomic life.
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+And so shout out to him.
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+I think he's in the chat right now.
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+See Albert in the chat and Christy.
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+A lot of people that I'm really happy are coming here every night to help study the brick wall that's visible.
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+I guess that's what we're really doing.
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+We're studying the brick wall and we're trying to make sure that people can see it easier.
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+We're trying to describe the brick wall in simpler terms.
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+You know, like Jessica Hawkins idea of explaining it by saying there was no spread in New York City.
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+Denny Rankor is also very, very astutely used math to say that there was no spread of a dangerous virus.
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+Infectious clones are the only real threat in explaining the role of infectious clones.
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+We're going to work on that during this holiday season.
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+The role of placebo batches, I think, you know, I give credit where credits do.
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+You know, this is something that mathematically speaking Matthew Crawford put forward very early and how this would be useful.
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+Hum-transfection and healthy mammals is dumb.
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+I think that's a pretty simple way of putting things too.
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+Protocols were murdered, gained a function as a mythology.
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+The Scooby-Doo, the mystery that you've been led to solve, is also real.
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+And the players are committed to the lies that form that Scooby-Doo.
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+I think that's really important to understand.
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+It's really this faith in a novel virus, this faith that millions died, but millions more were saved.
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+And the gain of functions is actually real.
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+It's so real that people lie about it and a virus will come again.
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+So that's what Gigo and Biological is all about right now.
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+We're going to keep singing this song day after day, night after night.
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+It's a late streak tonight.
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+Basketball practice went a little late.
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+It kind of goes like this.
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+Sometimes there's this like really vigilant janitor that's standing at the door at 859 with a mop and keys.
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+And saying coach, coach, let's go.
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+And then sometimes you're at this gym and it seems like nobody cares that you're there.
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+And the kids want to play and they start scrimmaging.
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+And before you know you're talking to a parent and now I'm starting at 10-21.
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+So you're going to have to forgive me for that.
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+But like lots of people have noticed at least the streak is alive.
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+Give me a chance to get up to speed and get back into shape.
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+I ran my first set of horses tonight in many, many years in my lifetime.
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+Trying to run some of the calisthenics and exercises that the boys do, but not all of them.
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+Let's get to work.
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+I'm very excited because, whoa, that was DJ, Jazzy J, not so Jazzy.
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+Yeah, so it's not a matter of what is true that counts, but a matter of what is perceived to be true.
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+And I've been telling this story relative to the intellectual dark web and some pieces on the board have moved today.
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+And I want to just take some snapshots and take a look at them and discuss what they mean to me.
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+Given my experience during the last three years.
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+And then basically just do a rocket summary introduction and closure around that.
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+Because yesterday was a really long stream and I'm starting late tonight.
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+It'd be nice if I could be done in an hour. I don't think it's really possible.
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+But we've been trying to work on this language, this language that doesn't really seem like a lot of people want to adopt or even really consider touching.
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+I don't think it's because of the toxicity of what these words mean.
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+I think it's more about how many people are participating in the controlling of the narrative and how many of those people have a.
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+Invested interest or a an obligation not to really amplify my work and the work of others like Mark Koolak.
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+Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
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+And transfection and healthy humans is actually criminally negligent.
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+The people that were involved in the classification of these transfections as investigational vaccines.
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+So that they could be rolled out as countermeasures during the pandemic.
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+Are guilty of something and I don't know if it's up to me to really determine what they're guilty of because I'm not a lawyer.
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+But the bottom line is that there's no biological excuse for assuming that transfection would be a useful way of augmenting the immune system.
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+And I think that's the basis from which all of these investigations into criminal, whatever's should be done.
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+It is my the gremlins that whisper in my ear suggest to me that unless the lawyers that are here are.
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+Stating the statute that is being violated, it's hard to take some of these people seriously.
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+So with grains of salt, watch the bait on, you know, watch the bait on social media, but do not take it.
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+There's a lot of pomp and circumstance and a lot of bluster right now.
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+And all of that bluster and all of those people standing on stage and all of those people talking, they don't seem to be able to get the messaging down to a few things other than informed consent.
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+But then, you know, informed consent requires understanding.
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+So if you're going to start with informed consent, at some point you're going to have to say something about this biology that's on the screen here.
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+I recently, you know, yesterday decided that, you know, to try out some other combinations of words. And so let's keep doing that.
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+So that we can learn how to communicate crisply and precisely, maybe even before Thanksgiving and try it out on some of our family and friends over that holiday.
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+Again, I wanted to say that this stream in particular, I want to focus a little bit on the intellectual dark web and the idea of how we've been governed over the last three years.
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+It is very tempting to believe that it is this, you know, push and pull between, I guess, the DOD, DARPA and NIH and NIAID and CDC and FDA and the rest of the executive branch and countries around the world and the who and GAVI and all these different organizations working together
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+to respond to the pandemic are sort of kind of responsible for the decision making and for the interpretation of the narrative and the control of the narrative.
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+And so the dissidents that are fighting against those entities are necessarily good guys.
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+But in reality, I'm going to try and stop doing that. I know that's really annoying.
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+In reality, the, the dissident side of the narrative is also composed of people that are as participating as those people in Congress has participating as those people that work for DARPA as participating has those people that work for the CDC and the FDA ACIP community.
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+All of these people are playing a role in making sure that this Scooby-Doo was adopted by everyone, that everyone on the left, everyone on the right was invested in trying to figure out what happened.
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+And the premise that most people have been fooled into believing is that there was a novel virus.
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+And the intellectual dark web was really crucial in seeding that narrative and particularly crucial in seeding the worst case scenario possibility space.
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+What is the worst case scenario here that included a lab leak?
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+And now the idea is that these people are pretending to be legitimate dissidents while actually if you look at the history of their record, if you listen to their podcasts from 2019 through 2020 and that transition into the pandemic, you don't hear dissidents.
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+You hear submissive completely on narrative people. You hear people that are just starting their podcast on their eighth podcast on their fourth podcast talking about the relevance of, you know, following directives.
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+And, you know, when there's a real emergency, and these are not by accident. This is by design.
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+And so now the question is, how can we see this? How can we see the reality of these people in real time?
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+It has been very useful to go back into their record of 2019, 2020, 2021 and see that although we've been led to believe that these people are the leaders of the dissident movement, the only ones that spoke up.
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+When we go back in time, actually, they are really far removed from 2020 when speaking up would have been useful.
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+When Knut Wieckowski was speaking up, when Wolfgang Woda was speaking up, when Michael Yeden was speaking up, when, when really Pierre Corey and Peter McCullough were speaking up.
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+And very cleverly, other people have been inserted in front of and ahead of these early dissidents and taken control of the narrative in such a way so that we were almost guaranteed not to write that, not to ask the right question early enough to avoid this disaster.
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+Where the confusion and frustration and doubt has almost fractured our country irrevocably, irrevocably, irrevocably, I can't even speak, fractured our country.
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+And so I really want to understand how it is that on all levels of the internet, there were medlers.
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+On all levels of social media, there were medlers that were given different parts of the narrative to push, different pieces of evidence had different times were released to very questionable characters, very
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+important. Books were sold, narratives were pushed, people were sued, and these were all orchestrated ways of getting us to imagine that we were paying attention to an ongoing struggle for the truth, when we were really paying attention to an ongoing theater of struggle.
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+A controlled spectrum of debate, as Noam Chomsky so eloquently said, and within that controlled spectrum of debate, there's been a very vigorous argument between Brett Weinstein and Sam Harris.
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+And that vigorous argument represents the state of the art of our society trying to figure out what happened with the pandemic and come to a real realization of what to do next.
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+And quite a few people have fallen into the trap of believing that quite a few people in our government believe that.
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+And that's the work that we're now trying to do to try and show people that it's impossible that a paper by and a group and the head of the vaccine chief of vaccine research for the cancer wing of the NIH are writing an editorial about from genome to vaccine.
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+And that they say the silent part out loud.
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+Following the events of September 11th, 2021 is in the text here.
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+Bioterrorism and several years of sustained increases in government funding have had a stimulatory effect on vaccine development.
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+AIDS has also driven vaccine research primarily because of a well-deserved infusion of funding in that field.
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+This immunomythology has been laid piece by piece for decades with the idea of basically tricking us into thinking we solved a mystery about a virus so that we would our children would come to believe that pandemics are real fact of life.
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+And that it's man's hubris sometimes, but it's also mother nature's cruelty sometimes.
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+And these books have made it very obvious, at least to me, that I have been unaware of how we have been governed for so long.
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+And in reality, the intellectual class, the bureaucrats in government, they've been governed by similar mythology, just not based in public health, not directly.
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+And now it's been rolled on on a global scale.
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+This theater has been used to bamboozle the globe.
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+So I'm just discussed.
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+Mark has been playing this video and I think it's really worth watching again.
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+And the thing to get from this video is to understand the yellow text.
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+Vaccination is a methodology that will work on everything.
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+And this pivot is a game that they are playing so that they can call basically anything that's genetic, any type of genetic therapy will essentially be called a vaccine.
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+And that's exactly what they've done with regard to COVID and with regard to this SARS-CoV-2 virus that supposedly started trampling the earth in 2020.
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+And we need to see this as the final push for that cognitive dissonance to be set in place for the next generation.
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+And we need to break it because we can't let our children grow up thinking that we have transitioned to a time when using adenovirus or using a lipid nanoparticle to carry modified RNA into ourselves and augment our immune system is something that we do now.
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+Even if the TV says it, even if social media says it, we can't let them grow up thinking that that's okay.
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+And we need to educate doctors one by one, nurses one by one, moms one by one, teachers one by one or 30 by 30.
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+But we've got to find a way to do it.
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+Because what this man says in this video is extremely on point.
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+This is the plan.
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+It is an enchantment.
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+Vaccines cure diseases because the best cures that we have are vaccines.
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+And every disease has a cure. You're not going to argue with that. Are you?
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+We have heard Tony Fauci say these exact words and I apologize, but because I got back from the basketball practice so late, I couldn't get this video.
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+It would take me a little while. I know I know what it is and where the the interview is.
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+It's a BBC interview where he's talking to a woman with short hair and Fauci says basically the same thing that our immune response to HIV is not as robust as it is for some other viruses.
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+Therefore, the vaccine has to be better than the infection at activating your immune system.
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+So this logic and this concept is very tightly.
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+I mean, they say almost exactly the same words. I don't know how locked in time they are.
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+This is 2014. I'm pretty sure that the video that was in 2011 with Fauci.
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+Over three years earlier, they were already using almost identical language.
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+So let's just listen to him again. He's going to explain how previously we used live attenuated vaccines made from the viruses that we were trying to protect from.
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+And antigenically speaking, these are also viruses, measles, polio that don't really antigenically evolve that rapidly.
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+Unlike a lot of the other viruses that we tend to think of as circulating an endemic like coronaviruses, human papilloma viruses, etc.
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+It's a long arduous road for us to teach this stuff, but we got to do it.
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+We need to do now, and I agree wholeheartedly that this is important, that we need to have elevator pitch talking points about this stuff.
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+And the idea that vaccination is a methodology that will work on everything is one that needs breaking.
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+We cannot allow them to call these vaccines unless we are also going to very explicitly say that legally speaking everything that you inject with a needle should be held to strict liability.
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+Is that the right word? Strict liability? I'm always, I mean...
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+Where is my message that I want to look up here?
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+Yes, strict liability. So if you hold, you know, the reason why that you see pharma commercials on TV with all these warnings afterward is because these compounds are being held to strict liability.
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+The example that was given to me earlier today was if the latter company doesn't warn you that you could fall or it's dangerous to climb the ladder or do it with a partner or don't supervise or whatever, potentially if you get hurt, they can be liable.
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+And if the drug, you know, doesn't warn you that you hair loss or lack of sexual dysfunction is a side effect of this drug and then you use it and you have this happen, potentially that strict liability you could be sued for that.
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+Loss of hair, whatever.
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+So vaccines are not held to this standard.
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+And if we wanted to be legally pretty simple, this is how we would describe it that vaccination is a methodology that will work on everything is an enchantment.
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+It's an idea that is actually, it's incongruent with biology, but their goal is to avoid the strict liability that is associated with all other pharmaceuticals.
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+By trying to move genetic therapies into the vaccine space because the vaccine space is not held to strict liability.
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+And so if we can be simple, that's about as simple as we can be.
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+Any lawyer worth their salt should know what strict liability means and should be able to say that this is the goal that we want to hold vaccines to strict liability.
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+It's better to say that quite honestly than it is to say we want random randomized controlled trials with placebo.
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+Because still then you're saying that if they pass a randomized controlled trial with placebo, then it's okay for us to not hold them to strict liability.
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+In theory, a vaccine bottle should be covered in red labels, right, in warnings and all kinds of stuff, but they're not because they're not held to strict liability.
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+So that's what the bamboozlement is happening and it's already been happening.
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+This is 2014.
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+So we're talking at least 10 years ago and we know earlier than that people were trying to make this cognitive shift.
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+Within the academic community that we could think of genetic therapies as vaccines because we're using them to treat diseases, which, you know, like cancer diseases have cures and one of our best cures is vaccines.
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+And for academics, this is fine for, you know, funding and whatever and for prior health priorities and whatnot, but it is an actual move.
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+It is a move to avoid strict liability.
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+That's what they're avoiding.
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+It's not.
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+And it's to be precise.
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+That's what that's what you have to say strict liability.
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+I'm sorry.
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+I'm being so.
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+Two about it.
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+Well, I think, you know, the big problem in vaccines has been that while it's been possible in the past to make vaccines against viruses that cause acute self-limited infections, that's mostly been done
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+by making either an attenuated or killed virus, which induces an immune response that mimics the immune response that you get to the natural infection because the natural infection will give you lifelong or at least long-lasting immunity.
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+But now what's left are viruses that cause chronic infections or cancer that causes chronic disease where the disease itself does not induce an adequate response to get protection.
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+So now the vaccine has to be better than the virus or the cancer itself.
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+It's really word for word what Fauci said in that video.
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+I'm going to find chronic infections like HIV or hepatitis C, for example.
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+And I think more and more strategies are being developed to target those very similar to the ones I just talked about for cancer vaccines.
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+And I think hopefully within the next five to 10 years, we will have vaccines for those diseases.
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+I mean, you know, we're going to have a vaccine for laziness.
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+We're going to have a vaccine for for ugliness.
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+We're going to have a vaccine for unhappiness or depression.
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+That's what they want.
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+This idea, they want this idea to start leaking out into the average person's consciousness, you know, and it's terrifying.
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+Because it is really just what they laughed about yesterday on Twiv.
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+Why don't we just, you know, change the definition of ecology, change the definition of ecosystem, change the definition of niche.
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+Why don't we just change the definition and expand the definition of vaccine to cover also everything that that modifies genes.
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+And this is where we are.
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+This magic trick of imprecise language.
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+And a bunch of yes men and yes women.
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+Trying to climb the ladder of prestige and and perceived fame and honor and power.
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+All the while barely even learning the biology they're doing because why do they need to learn it?
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+I mean, just need to learn how to do it.
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+And don't ask any questions.
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+You've just discussed.
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+If you could take 10 players off the map.
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+Right. If you simply reran the pandemic, but.
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+Robert alone, Peter McCullough, Joe Rogan.
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+You know, if you took 10 players off the map, including you and me, the pandemic unfolds totally differently.
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+Right. The story never breaks.
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+People probably at this point will have just simply accepted that the reason that we can now all go back to life is that these marvelous vaccines have saved the day they will accept the phony data that suggests that, you know, they've probably been kept out of the hospital by these things.
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+And, you know, they would be inserted into the the childhood vaccine schedule and everybody would do to fully be getting their kids vaccinated with them despite the fact that that never made the slightest bit of sense.
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+So again, if all you did was take out.
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+The 10 people who most impacted the public discourse in a way that went against the mainstream narrative, then you wouldn't have to mess with everybody else.
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+It doesn't matter that there would be people who were noticing things, people who had, you know, lost loved ones in the immediate aftermath of being vaccinated, they would be, you know, shouted down by an angry public that didn't want conspiracy theories being circulated.
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+Right. The calamari clots that the the morticians were finding would become just a rumor.
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+It's not hard to imagine that, you know, messing with 10 people would have been enough.
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+And the problem then is the idea that it had even happened would be effectively invisible because anybody who said, Hey, you have no idea what happened to us why we were disappeared from the Internet at this moment.
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+I mean, all of the people you mentioned were messed with. We did get messed with. We just didn't get completely obliterated. Right. The fact is we.
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+I think a very important point is happening here. I think what's becoming obvious to me is that Heather actually doesn't know.
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+I'm just speculating for fun because it's late night and, you know, I'm tired.
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+But I don't think she knows that her husband is in cahoots with his brother and Peter Teal and the rest of the intellectual dark web to control the narrative around the doubt side to make sure that the wrong questions are always asked.
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+And that simple forthright biology is never really presented.
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+He's never taught immunology 101 not once on his stream, even though he said at the beginning of the pandemic that he would do it.
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+He's never explained. He's never had graphics. He doesn't do papers.
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+They're both PhD's. They barely they barely do anything useful for three years.
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+And in the first year of the pandemic, they did not doubt anything.
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+In the first year of the pandemic, they did not doubt anything.
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+From masks to lockdowns to distancing, they doubted nothing.
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+And in fact, they believed very much in the usefulness of Ivermectin prophylactic use.
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+They believed very much in hybrid immunity with people who had been infected and also getting the the the Moderna or other shots.
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+We are talking about some very, very serious.
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+I don't know what's what to call it, but it's it's very dubious statements to be making given the actual video podcast record on YouTube of what he said and did.
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+There was no reason to censor him in 2020.
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+There was no reason to censor him in 2020. There was no reason to censor Joe Rogan in 2020.
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+There was no reason to censor his brother or anybody else on that list in 2020, except for Peter McCullough, Pierre Corey, who he's stepping in front of now.
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+He considers himself kind of the the the leader of that group, the best example of that group.
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+It's very, very, it can be very frustrating if you allow this bait to get to you.
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+But what you need to see is that this is obviously part of the governance structure that they use to orchestrate this pandemic.
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+This cannot be explained by arrogance and and ego alone.
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+There's no way.
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+It's impossible.
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+And the disconnect that's on display right now between Brett and her.
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+And if you don't see it, maybe you haven't watched him enough and then good for you, you know, you don't need to watch him. So you see it. But for me, I see it.
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+And I, without wanting to sound too confident, I really feel like I can tell when people are lying. And right now, she is in love with Brett and fully unaware of the fact that he's lying about this stuff.
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+And I think I've recorded a little bit to which I, but this podcast is extraordinary. You really got to watch it.
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+Because he, he makes a lot of references that I just, I don't think he could make for any other reason than the work that Mark and I have done together and separately with regard to this, this subject and the stuff we did with regular guy.
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+As a, as a trio.
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+It's really extraordinary. Here we go.
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+Survived. We paid.
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+Heavy cost.
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+But the fact that we remained.
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+Important nodes in the discussion.
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+And staunch.
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+And staunch did not.
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+Did not give in to.
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+True speaker. Why can't you didn't give in to truth speak. You didn't give in to bandanas. You didn't give in to lockdowns for the first year. Yes, you did.
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+You didn't give into the narrative of bush meat and market release. Yes, you did.
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+You didn't perpetuate the idea that this is a lab leak. So we better. Maybe we should stay home longer. Yes, you did.
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+You didn't have Yuri Dagan, the guy who knew about the fear and cleavage site and how infectious it would make the virus already in January of 2020 on your podcast and like February already or March.
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+Yeah, you did.
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+And so the legend that you're supposed to believe is that his speaking out about that stuff was all really brave, you know, who I was, I was way ahead on the lab leak.
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+No, but you were way behind on the biology because you never taught people that actually they should have overlapping immunity to previous RNA viruses that would make them pretty invulnerable to a novel coronavirus that can't actually circulate the globe for three years in a consistent pattern of waves and colors.
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+But again, remember, Brett Weinstein was on a signal chat with me for almost nine months where I taught him all the immunology I could.
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+And at some point I asked him, you know, he was just getting frustrated. He didn't understand what I was trying to explain with transfection.
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+And he didn't think it would be useful to be on a zoom chat with me.
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+Just for a half an hour to see if I could explain it.
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+Same guy who interviewed Robert F Kennedy Jr. in 2021 and didn't release it until 2023 because, you know, archive and stuff is now saying that he's really one of the 10 people that the only you could have stopped this, all this resistance and the resistance
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+would have meant nothing if it wasn't you could just take out these 10 people me and you included him and his wife are the 10 of the 10 most important.
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+Incidents in the movement.
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+That's the poster of the intellectual dark web.
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+This is exactly the cognitive game that's being played with you and our families and our friends and everybody that watches everybody that listens everybody that argues about Brett Weinstein.
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+Because Tim Poole argues for Brett Weinstein and Sam Sader argues against Brett Weinstein and together they make a whole two or three million people debate about whether Brett Weinstein is a good guy and speaks up or is a crazy anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist.
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+And so there's this whole pyramid of performances going on here, whether they willingly provide or winningly participate or unwittingly participate.
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+That's what is being created with Brett Weinstein and intellectual dark web and Joe Rogan at the top.
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+And then all these little podcasts underneath it that are slightly less popular, you know, like Huberman and Lex Friedman.
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+And then underneath that you have Tim Poole and Sam Seder and all these other weird ones.
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+And this is the kind of network that's left over after the careful crafting and censorship of three years and amplification over three years of these people that they wanted to rise.
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+And the ones that have locked horns or ended up trying to manipulate Mark and myself have been the ones that haven't really risen.
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+Presumably because the truth and the sunlight that comes along with trying to influence Mark and I is pretty hard to stand in.
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+And that's why people like Brett Weinstein went from loving to have a signal chat with me to not wanting to listen to me anymore and not mentioning me anymore.
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+And the reason why he never really mentioned me on his stream is again because this is a fight that very few people are actually fighting.
+
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+Most of the people wittingly or unwittingly are participating in the sustaining of this faith in a novel virus that millions of people died from but also millions of people were saved from likely originated and gain a function which is certainly a real thing.
+
+44:07.000 --> 44:10.000
+And therefore virus could come again.
+
+44:10.000 --> 44:23.000
+That is the job of these people from the very beginning to make sure that the worst case scenario was believed and the faith was never questioned.
+
+44:23.000 --> 44:36.000
+And now he's taking credit for being a questioner to prefer being a doubter for being a guy who who otherwise the pandemic would have just rolled over us.
+
+44:36.000 --> 44:42.000
+And Heather's Heather's definitely along with that idea of course we were we were staunch.
+
+44:42.000 --> 44:47.000
+This review come through.
+
+44:47.000 --> 44:51.000
+Just discussed at this moment.
+
+44:52.000 --> 44:55.000
+I mean, all of the people you mentioned were messed with.
+
+44:55.000 --> 44:58.000
+We did get messed with we just didn't get completely obliterated.
+
+44:58.000 --> 45:03.000
+Right. The fact is we survived.
+
+45:03.000 --> 45:05.000
+We paid.
+
+45:05.000 --> 45:06.000
+Heavy cost.
+
+45:06.000 --> 45:09.000
+But the fact that we.
+
+45:09.000 --> 45:10.000
+Oh, come on.
+
+45:10.000 --> 45:11.000
+No.
+
+45:11.000 --> 45:13.000
+I'm going to get this right.
+
+45:13.000 --> 45:14.000
+I very apologize here.
+
+45:14.000 --> 45:15.000
+Let's do it.
+
+45:15.000 --> 45:17.000
+Just discussed.
+
+45:18.000 --> 45:21.000
+At this moment.
+
+45:21.000 --> 45:24.000
+I mean, all of the people you have caused.
+
+45:24.000 --> 45:25.000
+I mean, they had.
+
+45:25.000 --> 45:27.000
+We just didn't get completely obliterated.
+
+45:27.000 --> 45:33.000
+Right. The fact is we survived.
+
+45:33.000 --> 45:34.000
+We paid.
+
+45:34.000 --> 45:36.000
+Heavy cost.
+
+45:36.000 --> 45:39.000
+But the fact that we remained.
+
+45:39.000 --> 45:42.000
+Important nodes in the discussion.
+
+45:42.000 --> 45:43.000
+And staunch.
+
+45:44.000 --> 45:46.000
+Didn't did not.
+
+45:46.000 --> 45:50.000
+Did not give in to.
+
+45:50.000 --> 45:51.000
+Unreal.
+
+45:51.000 --> 45:54.000
+Why can't I think of the writer.
+
+45:54.000 --> 45:55.000
+Unreal.
+
+45:55.000 --> 45:56.000
+Newspeak.
+
+45:56.000 --> 45:57.000
+Newspeak.
+
+45:57.000 --> 45:58.000
+Yeah.
+
+45:58.000 --> 45:59.000
+Yeah.
+
+45:59.000 --> 46:00.000
+Did not.
+
+46:00.000 --> 46:05.000
+Continued to assess what we thought was what the evidence suggested.
+
+46:05.000 --> 46:09.000
+So true for everyone you mentioned and many more.
+
+46:10.000 --> 46:14.000
+The list I've given is not complete much.
+
+46:14.000 --> 46:20.000
+There are lots of people who played an important role in that.
+
+46:20.000 --> 46:22.000
+So I want to just rescue two terms.
+
+46:22.000 --> 46:30.000
+One, I would say the prediction implied by the concept of surgical totalitarianism is now clearly true.
+
+46:30.000 --> 46:35.000
+Renee Darest is talking about surgical totalitarianism in terms designed to make it sound.
+
+46:36.000 --> 46:39.000
+Surgical totalitarianism.
+
+46:39.000 --> 46:44.000
+Not to be confused with the phenomenon of mass psychosis.
+
+46:44.000 --> 46:45.000
+Something something or other.
+
+46:45.000 --> 46:50.000
+I don't remember what the other one was.
+
+46:50.000 --> 46:54.000
+It could be best described as worst case scenario.
+
+46:54.000 --> 46:56.000
+Team worst case scenario.
+
+46:56.000 --> 46:59.000
+But it's also just kind of like stupid complicated.
+
+46:59.000 --> 47:04.000
+Brett is extraordinarily bad at making things simple.
+
+47:04.000 --> 47:12.000
+He's extraordinarily bad at using simple word combinations so that everybody understands what he means.
+
+47:12.000 --> 47:21.000
+And he has this propensity to really enjoy repeating these kinds of things like he just did surgical totalitarianism.
+
+47:21.000 --> 47:24.000
+Wow, I love that combination of words.
+
+47:24.000 --> 47:28.000
+That guy's really smart.
+
+47:28.000 --> 47:35.000
+But if you say something like transfection is not immunization, he wants, I don't really understand what you mean.
+
+47:35.000 --> 47:42.000
+And I don't think 30 minutes on a Zoom would ever help me understand what you mean.
+
+47:42.000 --> 47:48.000
+This is the kind of magnificent controlled op that Brett Weinstein is.
+
+47:48.000 --> 47:57.000
+He actually told Dan Cohen, a man with four years of experience in Gaza, that he wasn't the right guy to discuss
+
+47:57.000 --> 48:02.000
+anything to do with Israel because he's an evolutionary biologist.
+
+48:02.000 --> 48:14.000
+And so the two of them look at the situation differently, even though he's happy to tweet about anything to do with it and very politically so.
+
+48:14.000 --> 48:21.000
+We really have to work on these pressure points because actually this is one of the weakest ones.
+
+48:21.000 --> 48:25.000
+And when this one falls, lots of other ones will fall.
+
+48:25.000 --> 48:37.000
+And as long as they're going to keep extending themselves further and further out on this precipice of lies, we need to make sure that we don't allow it to happen.
+
+48:37.000 --> 48:47.000
+And so listen carefully as this continues because this is no joke.
+
+48:47.000 --> 48:50.000
+Nonetheless, it's obviously a real thing.
+
+48:50.000 --> 49:06.000
+She is well aware as a person who is a central node in the censorship industrial complex that it doesn't make sense to censor everybody who says stuff that violates the mainstream narrative, which you really just need to do is decapitate the emerging sense making
+
+49:06.000 --> 49:08.000
+capacity and then people are free to talk among themselves.
+
+49:08.000 --> 49:10.000
+They can have whatever beliefs they like.
+
+49:10.000 --> 49:12.000
+It just doesn't threaten power.
+
+49:12.000 --> 49:13.000
+So that's one thing.
+
+49:13.000 --> 49:15.000
+Surgical totalitarianism turns out.
+
+49:15.000 --> 49:30.000
+So why are we talking about surgical totalitarianism when, when Noam Chomsky explained it much simpler as a limited spectrum of debate that doesn't threaten the actual, the actual truth.
+
+49:30.000 --> 49:38.000
+And then encouraging a lively debate within that spectrum so that people see this as, wow, that's pretty cool.
+
+49:38.000 --> 49:43.000
+Like Fox and MSNBC.
+
+49:43.000 --> 49:46.000
+Why does it have to be more complicated than that?
+
+49:46.000 --> 49:48.000
+Why aren't we citing Noam Chomsky?
+
+49:48.000 --> 50:00.000
+Why are we citing a new person and so surgical totalitarianism when it's really just a spectacular commitment to lies?
+
+50:00.000 --> 50:09.000
+There are two or three groups of people that are spectacularly committed to the lies that they tell and that's how this is done.
+
+50:09.000 --> 50:11.000
+It's not surgical totalitarianism.
+
+50:11.000 --> 50:20.000
+If it is, that's a more complicated word for something that can be much more simply described as a spectacular commitment to lies.
+
+50:20.000 --> 50:26.000
+That's what you're seeing here right now.
+
+50:27.000 --> 50:37.000
+Improvisational acting about the importance of lies.
+
+50:37.000 --> 50:49.000
+So in later in the podcast, they pull this stunt where Heather says that she's bringing up a review an anonymous review.
+
+50:49.000 --> 50:51.000
+And they're going to talk about it.
+
+50:51.000 --> 50:58.000
+And then in the anonymous review, they are accused of a few things and then they will address those few things.
+
+50:58.000 --> 51:00.000
+And I think that this is a stunt.
+
+51:00.000 --> 51:02.000
+I don't think this is a real review.
+
+51:02.000 --> 51:11.000
+I think this is, you know, their clever way of saying, well, how could we address this idea that we're not really controlled by Peter Teal?
+
+51:11.000 --> 51:18.000
+How can we really address these conspiracy theories without, without, without giving much credence to them?
+
+51:18.000 --> 51:23.000
+How can we really ignore the real conspiracy while feigning that we're addressing it?
+
+51:23.000 --> 51:24.000
+And that's how they do it.
+
+51:24.000 --> 51:25.000
+Here it comes.
+
+51:25.000 --> 51:29.000
+This review come through this week about the podcast.
+
+51:29.000 --> 51:31.000
+Dangerously stupid.
+
+51:31.000 --> 51:32.000
+This podcast kills people.
+
+51:32.000 --> 51:33.000
+One star.
+
+51:33.000 --> 51:38.000
+People have literally died because of the misinformation on vaccines and Ivermectin spread by this podcast.
+
+51:38.000 --> 51:40.000
+Apple needs to remove it.
+
+51:40.000 --> 51:42.000
+Call Brett what you will.
+
+51:42.000 --> 51:43.000
+Chaos agent.
+
+51:43.000 --> 51:44.000
+Peter Teal's puppet.
+
+51:44.000 --> 51:45.000
+Sociopath.
+
+51:45.000 --> 51:46.000
+Massad agent.
+
+51:46.000 --> 51:47.000
+Wow.
+
+51:47.000 --> 51:52.000
+What is absolutely clear is the man has an unwell mind and he wants to influence yours.
+
+51:52.000 --> 51:53.000
+Run.
+
+51:53.000 --> 51:54.000
+Yeah.
+
+51:54.000 --> 51:55.000
+So.
+
+51:57.000 --> 51:59.000
+I just found that.
+
+52:00.000 --> 52:07.000
+I mean, honestly, delightful at one level because it so encapsulates the.
+
+52:07.000 --> 52:08.000
+Inanity.
+
+52:08.000 --> 52:09.000
+Like, I don't even know.
+
+52:09.000 --> 52:11.000
+Maybe this isn't doing a real person, right?
+
+52:12.000 --> 52:17.000
+Or it's a real person, but it's someone who's been paid to put this sort of thing out there and all of the.
+
+52:17.000 --> 52:19.000
+All of the people's platforms who are.
+
+52:21.000 --> 52:22.000
+He's stuck.
+
+52:22.000 --> 52:29.000
+It they snuck in snuck in the little, you know, Zionist bit there, right?
+
+52:29.000 --> 52:30.000
+Massad agent.
+
+52:30.000 --> 52:31.000
+Massad agent.
+
+52:31.000 --> 52:32.000
+Yeah.
+
+52:32.000 --> 52:33.000
+That's a good one.
+
+52:33.000 --> 52:38.000
+I will point out there was an exchange on Twitter in which.
+
+52:39.000 --> 52:46.000
+Somebody had also said something incredibly stupid about me and.
+
+52:47.000 --> 52:49.000
+Gator, our friend.
+
+52:49.000 --> 52:52.000
+Who is not in fact an animated crocodile.
+
+52:52.000 --> 52:53.000
+We don't know that.
+
+52:53.000 --> 52:54.000
+You do.
+
+52:54.000 --> 52:55.000
+Yeah.
+
+52:55.000 --> 52:56.000
+I do too.
+
+52:56.000 --> 52:57.000
+Yeah.
+
+52:57.000 --> 52:59.000
+Well, not animated cartoon cartoon.
+
+52:59.000 --> 53:00.000
+Cartoon.
+
+53:00.000 --> 53:01.000
+Yeah.
+
+53:01.000 --> 53:03.000
+But anyway, he pointed out.
+
+53:04.000 --> 53:06.000
+Their son runs their stream.
+
+53:06.000 --> 53:12.000
+Writing this scathing declaration about me was obviously a moron.
+
+53:12.000 --> 53:15.000
+At least he spelled my name correctly.
+
+53:15.000 --> 53:24.000
+To which Alexandra's marinos pointed out that that actually likely implied that it was a bot and then on looking at the profile of the person.
+
+53:24.000 --> 53:25.000
+It was pretty clear.
+
+53:25.000 --> 53:27.000
+It was not a real honest to goodness person.
+
+53:27.000 --> 53:30.000
+This also contained a correct spelling of my name.
+
+53:31.000 --> 53:38.000
+That may have been automated having just copied my name from whatever it was that triggered the scaling review.
+
+53:38.000 --> 53:41.000
+But anyway, that it fits with both.
+
+53:41.000 --> 53:45.000
+You know, both what we were talking about with regard to what we're named arrest is up to.
+
+53:45.000 --> 53:50.000
+The kinds of things the FCC is trying to get its.
+
+53:50.000 --> 53:54.000
+Into with regard to the powers that it would grant itself.
+
+53:54.000 --> 53:56.000
+And then.
+
+53:57.000 --> 54:00.000
+I'm only giving you a little brief, brief clips of this it.
+
+54:00.000 --> 54:04.000
+We could have probably watched it for 20 minutes or so, but.
+
+54:04.000 --> 54:07.000
+I didn't want to spend too much time on it.
+
+54:07.000 --> 54:09.000
+But here this was also pretty funny.
+
+54:09.000 --> 54:12.000
+Oh, no, this is a full conspiracy theory.
+
+54:12.000 --> 54:14.000
+Unfalsifiable in fact.
+
+54:14.000 --> 54:20.000
+That somehow connects my family to the.
+
+54:20.000 --> 54:22.000
+Your natal family, not this family here.
+
+54:22.000 --> 54:23.000
+Correct.
+
+54:24.000 --> 54:27.000
+To the Robert Kennedy assassination.
+
+54:27.000 --> 54:31.000
+Oh, on the basis that my dad.
+
+54:31.000 --> 54:36.000
+Oh, she says, ha, ha, ha, so this is really acting right.
+
+54:36.000 --> 54:38.000
+And now remember.
+
+54:38.000 --> 54:41.000
+The connection is not to the Kennedy assassination.
+
+54:41.000 --> 54:44.000
+The connection is to the Kennedy administration.
+
+54:44.000 --> 54:50.000
+The connection is to the litemite case that basically defined what the FDA does.
+
+54:50.000 --> 55:00.000
+The connection was to the intellectual property space that is defined by the FDA and how long his dad's been swimming in it.
+
+55:00.000 --> 55:11.000
+The discussion was about the idea that he sat down with with Bobby Kennedy in his house for three hours and they didn't bother to broach that subject at all.
+
+55:11.000 --> 55:20.000
+And now he starts out by saying that this is about the Kennedy assassination and somehow he's involved or that he hates Kennedy.
+
+55:20.000 --> 55:22.000
+What?
+
+55:22.000 --> 55:25.000
+That's not anything that we ever reported.
+
+55:25.000 --> 55:30.000
+It's not anything I ever asked him over signal.
+
+55:30.000 --> 55:31.000
+That's right.
+
+55:31.000 --> 55:33.000
+I'm not afraid to say it.
+
+55:33.000 --> 55:38.000
+When we learned about Brett Weinstein's dad and Eric Weinstein's dad.
+
+55:38.000 --> 55:42.000
+I sent him a signal message and just asked him about it.
+
+55:42.000 --> 55:47.000
+And his response was what's with all the interrogation.
+
+55:47.000 --> 55:50.000
+Ladies and gentlemen, you are witnessing something here.
+
+55:50.000 --> 55:54.000
+I don't know if you can call it.
+
+55:54.000 --> 55:57.000
+Bearing false witness or what this is.
+
+55:57.000 --> 56:00.000
+But this story is made up.
+
+56:00.000 --> 56:09.000
+This rumor of him being involved in the JFK assassination is made up out of whole cloth.
+
+56:09.000 --> 56:18.000
+The only rumors about him and JFK are the JFK appointed his father to RFK's Department of Justice.
+
+56:18.000 --> 56:23.000
+The first patent lawyer to ever have been appointed to the Department of Justice.
+
+56:23.000 --> 56:38.000
+He was involved in the thalidomide case that had a real foundational role in defining the FRDAs role in the American economy.
+
+56:38.000 --> 56:43.000
+And listen to him twist this around and make it seem like it's not about any of that.
+
+56:43.000 --> 56:46.000
+It's not about intellectual property law.
+
+56:46.000 --> 56:52.000
+It's not about his dad being involved in biotech for like 20 years.
+
+56:52.000 --> 57:03.000
+It's not his dad being involved in the antibody patent paradox or being involved in advising Eric Weinstein on how to advise Peter Thiel and where to put his money.
+
+57:03.000 --> 57:22.000
+Couldn't possibly be that Peter Thiel was in absolera because of something that Les Weinstein would have told him about the intellectual property space of and monoclonal antibodies changing in 2019 or 20 or a 16 or all the times that it changed up to and approaching the pandemic.
+
+57:22.000 --> 57:23.000
+Course not.
+
+57:23.000 --> 57:28.000
+It's about the Kennedy assassination.
+
+57:29.000 --> 57:34.000
+Worked for Bobby Kennedy in the Justice Department and I'm not sure how that.
+
+57:34.000 --> 57:35.000
+Yeah.
+
+57:35.000 --> 57:39.000
+Now working for with it on behalf of the man definitely means that you hate him.
+
+57:39.000 --> 57:40.000
+Right.
+
+57:40.000 --> 57:42.000
+That's the leap.
+
+57:42.000 --> 57:43.000
+Yeah.
+
+57:43.000 --> 57:49.000
+And in fact, at one point I was going to see Bobby and the younger.
+
+57:49.000 --> 57:50.000
+Yes.
+
+57:51.000 --> 57:59.000
+And yes, I was born a year after Bobby Kennedy senior was killed.
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+57:59.000 --> 58:17.000
+But anyway, I introduced my dad to Bobby Kennedy Jr. and they talked about the fact that my dad had worked for for Bobby's father.
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+58:18.000 --> 58:27.000
+And so anyway, the idea that any connection at all, any for Bobby's father that my dad had worked.
+
+58:27.000 --> 58:38.000
+But anyway, I introduced my dad to Bobby Kennedy Jr. and they talked about the fact that my dad had worked for for Bobby's father.
+
+58:38.000 --> 58:53.000
+So anyway, the idea that any connection at all, any wisp of some ancient connection is going to be turned into some obviously conspiratorial something is obviously a bad instinct that people have.
+
+58:53.000 --> 58:54.000
+Yeah.
+
+58:54.000 --> 58:56.000
+No, it sure is.
+
+58:56.000 --> 58:57.000
+I did.
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+58:57.000 --> 58:59.000
+I don't want to spend much time on it.
+
+59:00.000 --> 59:06.000
+I mean, that's some pretty extraordinary that's a pretty extraordinary point about the normalization.
+
+59:06.000 --> 59:10.000
+That's some pretty extraordinary obfuscation of the truth.
+
+59:10.000 --> 59:14.000
+And it's, it's bald face storytelling.
+
+59:14.000 --> 59:22.000
+It's bald face storytelling because he's talking about my signal chat with him. He's talking about the private message I sent to him about his dad.
+
+59:22.000 --> 59:29.000
+And about the stuff that Mark has done and the stuff that I've done and the stuff that we talked about with regular guy.
+
+59:29.000 --> 59:34.000
+There is no other rumor. There is no other story on the Internet.
+
+59:34.000 --> 59:38.000
+They're making this up. Otherwise, they'd show the tweet.
+
+59:38.000 --> 59:46.000
+Otherwise, he'd show the tweet where he dunked on him about it where they'd show the Reddit thread where they dunked on him or they'd show the comments from this.
+
+59:46.000 --> 59:52.000
+This is just ridiculous.
+
+59:52.000 --> 01:00:05.000
+What you have to see is this is absolute and this podcast is absolute confirmation that one of the major players, one of the major groups.
+
+01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:20.000
+It's functioning as part of our governance structure is this Peter Teal, Elon Musk, Weinstein, Rogan intellectual dark web group that includes Shapiro and.
+
+01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:24.000
+Oh my gosh, do you see it?
+
+01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:41.000
+Once we shed this layer and all the sub layers of it, all the fakers of it, all the people that are just going along because it's great to be a podcast that gets kickdowns from Rogan.
+
+01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:47.000
+It's great to be a podcast that gets kickdowns from Lex Friedman.
+
+01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:54.000
+It's great to get kickdowns and have your own podcast and that's what all these people do.
+
+01:00:54.000 --> 01:01:01.000
+All sponsored by Element, the salt drink or sponsored by some other.
+
+01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:11.000
+Once you see this network for what it is, once you see the performance for what it is, you can't unsee it.
+
+01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:17.000
+Hi everyone, Megan Cohen, director of the CDC and I'm here with Senator Schumer, but it's an important message for you about vaccines.
+
+01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:28.000
+And what's many good things about our director, one of whom she's from Baldwin, New York, we're urging everybody to get their flu shot and their updated COVID booster.
+
+01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:36.000
+They don't hurt these shots don't hurt anymore like they used to when I was a kid and they do you a lot of good. Please get your shot.
+
+01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:38.000
+It'll avoid a lot of pain later.
+
+01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:45.000
+Thanks, Senator.
+
+01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:58.000
+If people are willing to go on television with the spectacular commitment to these lies, what are we going to do about that?
+
+01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:00.000
+That's the task we have at hand.
+
+01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:09.000
+A discussion today at our weekly urgent care provider meeting and actually was talking to one of our oncologists who's on our P&T committee locally.
+
+01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:18.000
+At this point, we have seen hundreds of thousands, millions of doses. I think Pfizer was saying they've released 2.3 million doses of vaccine already.
+
+01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:31.000
+We're not seeing issues. So we're really kind of moving a little bit of a decision making to just millions of doses of RSV vaccine for our folks, older folks getting the RSV vaccines.
+
+01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:45.000
+And as we mentioned with the NERSEVA MAM shortage, really trying to get pregnant women in that last trimester, the protection that they can then transfer to their to their children for this upcoming season.
+
+01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:50.000
+Daniel, we have a text from CDC VSA. Remember that program where you'd?
+
+01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:51.000
+Yes, yes.
+
+01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:56.000
+Now they say it's open for 60 plus adults who get an RSV vaccine.
+
+01:02:56.000 --> 01:03:03.000
+Okay. Yeah. And so they say register and tell us how you feel after RSV vaccine. How do they know I got one?
+
+01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:10.000
+Did you get your RSV vaccine, Vincent? Yeah, I did. I got RSV COVID and flu all at once.
+
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+Okay, that's fantastic. Well, let's talk about that for a second. So the way I think he's got to be not telling the truth.
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+I don't I don't I don't know what else to say. I don't I don't believe that he did it.
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+I don't think he's talking like he did it.
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+Did you did you get your RSV vaccine, Vincent? Yeah, I did. I got RSV COVID and flu all at once.
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+Okay, that's that's fantastic. And what we should well, let's talk about that for a second. So the way they know, and this is nice.
+
+01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:53.000
+A lot of states actually have a centralized place where, you know, for instance, my patient comes and sees me that that gets uploaded to the state.
+
+01:03:53.000 --> 01:04:00.000
+And there's a nice system where I see that a person has covered their recommended vaccinations, other health maintenance things.
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+01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:06.000
+So it's really a great resource. And what you did is really what we recommend.
+
+01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:12.000
+You know, there was there was a little bit in the media that came out recently about, oh, I don't know if people showed RSV and flu at the same time.
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+Because there was one study where we looked at a specific age group over 85 and and there was a slight minimal statistically significant increase in strokes.
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+You know, that that's getting to the point of data mining when you start like looking for something like that.
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+01:04:27.000 --> 01:04:32.000
+Because we have lots of other studies, you know, you really decrease your risk.
+
+01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:40.000
+Interesting enough with the flu vaccine, you're decreasing your risk of having heart attacks of strokes of getting hospitalized for even non flu related issues.
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+So the recommendation for the board is don't miss an opportunity to do that.
+
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+That's a new one.
+
+01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:50.000
+Just like, you know, Vincent, you're a role model there, probably because you're aware of the cape and the spike t-shirt.
+
+01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:57.000
+But yeah, yeah, let's let's get everyone protected so that this becomes the year when we say what happened with RSV.
+
+01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:00.000
+So I got mine at a CVS would.
+
+01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:01.000
+Would they work?
+
+01:05:01.000 --> 01:05:03.000
+You got GSK.
+
+01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:04.000
+I got GSK.
+
+01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:05.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:09.000
+You know how I know that is that's actually why GSK is winning over Pfizer.
+
+01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:14.000
+They got the CVS contract on RSV vaccines, but they would they report it to CDC?
+
+01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:16.000
+They report to the state.
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+I see.
+
+01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:19.000
+Yeah, so it's a state state thing.
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+I don't even know what to say, but apparently, Vincent got his three shots.
+
+01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:39.000
+I thought I had one more video of him where he says that he got his COVID in one arm and this one and the other and he had no pain from all of them.
+
+01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:46.000
+And anyway, that I know that that's part of that that podcast to it doesn't really matter.
+
+01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:59.000
+I really, I really am going to push this idea of a orchestrated illusion of consensus that was really set up from very early on and even set in motion before the pandemic actually started.
+
+01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:01.000
+These people were all put in place.
+
+01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:08.000
+And at some point in 2021, we went extraordinarily.
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+01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:13.000
+Maybe even in 2020 we went extraordinarily off narrative.
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+01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:24.000
+And they had to really course correct and that's why so many people through their head in the ring at the same time.
+
+01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:41.000
+It's not for nothing that Steve Kersch, Robert Malone and and Brett Weinstein were all on the same broadcast when when this illusion of consensus was really solidified and the leaders of it were really established.
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+It's not for nothing that there are areas that had massive spikes of the virus the same as let's say Northern Italy.
+
+01:06:48.000 --> 01:06:58.000
+It's more important even to say that that how many of these people just absolutely positively abjectly ignore Denny Rancor.
+
+01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:03.000
+Robert Malone ignores him.
+
+01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:05.000
+Steve Kersch ignores him.
+
+01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:13.000
+Steve Kersch is promoting his own debate about vaccine effectiveness and a $10 million challenge.
+
+01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:18.000
+It's always promoting himself.
+
+01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:21.000
+Nobody talks about Denny Rancor.
+
+01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:39.000
+He's got like four different analyses on all cause mortality that seem to make an argument about the fact that you can only really see a reliable signal when you look for correlations with massive rollouts of transfection or transformation.
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+01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:45.000
+There's no evidence of the spread of a contagious respiratory virus.
+
+01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:52.000
+And even after appearing on the Kim Iverson show he didn't really have any momentum nobody really cared.
+
+01:07:52.000 --> 01:08:00.000
+It's not like Robert Malone tweeted this video out to his 1.10 million followers.
+
+01:08:03.000 --> 01:08:11.000
+I mean if you think about the list of people that Brett Weinstein said you know are the 10 people that had to be stopped and the pandemic would have been completely different.
+
+01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:17.000
+None of those people have even said Denny Rancor's name out loud.
+
+01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:21.000
+It's magical.
+
+01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:32.000
+In New York who did not use any of those treatment protocols but stuck with the tried and true of how you deal with the respiratory illness.
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+01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:35.000
+And that's interesting.
+
+01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:36.000
+Yeah.
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+01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:40.000
+Okay, so that spike that initial spike you caused it due to the virus.
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+01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:44.000
+You understand I'm arguing it's not due to a virus at all.
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+01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:47.000
+It's due to the what with the measures that were applied.
+
+01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:48.000
+That's what killed people.
+
+01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:50.000
+People could come in.
+
+01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:53.000
+But we did see a spot.
+
+01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:54.000
+I mean are you.
+
+01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:55.000
+I guess we have to ask.
+
+01:08:55.000 --> 01:09:00.000
+Do you believe that COVID-19 as a virus exists at all that SARS-CoV-2 exists.
+
+01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:06.000
+I think that question is irrelevant. What I'm trying to say is all the data.
+
+01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:15.000
+That is a firm hard all cause mortality data is inconsistent with the idea of a particularly virulent at the gym that spreads.
+
+01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:17.000
+It's inconsistent with that.
+
+01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:23.000
+So you can believe that there's a whole spectrum of viruses and bacteria and whatever you want.
+
+01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:32.000
+But there was nothing special or new in terms of these pathogens that did anything that spreads that the data is inconsistent with that.
+
+01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:38.000
+So you don't have to get into the question of whether or not viruses exist and all these all these exotic things.
+
+01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:47.000
+I don't even want to touch that. I'm just saying my view of the data is that this is not a spreading pathogen period.
+
+01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:51.000
+It's inconsistent with that is disproved by the data.
+
+01:09:51.000 --> 01:10:01.000
+But you asked the question well were there places where they weren't applying these these very horrendous protocols and that still had spikes.
+
+01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:08.000
+Well our data we've done studies about this and for example Germany did not apply these fancy protocols.
+
+01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:13.000
+Germany did business as usual and had zero peak at the beginning of the pandemic.
+
+01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:19.000
+There is no signal there whatsoever in the entire territory of Germany.
+
+01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:25.000
+So when you make a map of Europe and you put colors on for the intensity of that peak.
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+01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:31.000
+It's red in northern France for example around London around Madrid.
+
+01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:39.000
+There's these horrible red spots and it does not cross the border into Germany whatsoever Germany stays white on the map if you like.
+
+01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:46.000
+But I guess what I'm saying is that what I'm saying is that you know as they were tracking the virus itself and the spread of the virus.
+
+01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:55.000
+They were saying then that the answer to that would be well because Germany had taken all these measures that they weren't getting the virus into their country yet that it hadn't spread into Germany.
+
+01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:58.000
+So if it was spreading in Italy.
+
+01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:12.000
+I see spreading spreading spreading tracking tracking tracking when they were tracking the virus listen to how vigorously Kim Iris and defends the faith in a novel virus that spread and killed millions about millions were saved from.
+
+01:11:12.000 --> 01:11:24.000
+It's a very vigorous debate a very vigorous defense of the spread we saw the spread of the virus the virus spread the spread virus and spreading virus in the tracking of the spread virus.
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+01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:30.000
+It's red in northern France for example around London around Madrid.
+
+01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:38.000
+There's these horrible red spots and it does not cross the border into Germany whatsoever Germany stays white on the map if you like.
+
+01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:51.000
+But I guess what I'm saying is that what I'm saying is that you know as they were tracking the virus itself and the spread of the virus they were saying then that the answer to that would be well because Germany had taken all these measures that they weren't
+
+01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:59.000
+getting the virus into their country yet that they're it hadn't spread into Germany so if it was spreading in Italy but not in Germany spreading.
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+01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:06.000
+You can wave your hand like that. Okay, first of all, I don't believe that they were.
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+01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:13.000
+They weren't tracking mortality. They may have been tracking something that they call.
+
+01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:22.000
+The cases of COVID or whatever with these very suspicious tests that they were using and so on they can they can do all of that and they can count cases.
+
+01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:32.000
+I put all that aside and I look at mortality, because it's the only thing that I'm sure of, and it's something you can measure and be certain of and all the all the jurisdictions do it.
+
+01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:37.000
+And when I look at mortality, there is no evidence of any spread.
+
+01:12:37.000 --> 01:12:41.000
+You have bursts of mortality when you start doing something.
+
+01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:54.000
+So, right, right at the beginning when you started applying these aggressive protocols you had certain hotspots that had peaks that mortality did not spread. It didn't then.
+
+01:12:54.000 --> 01:13:04.000
+So you're saying it doesn't matter if there was a virus or not circulating because you're not even looking at that you're looking at deaths and only deaths.
+
+01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:15.000
+You look at mortality and the deaths in areas you're not seeing deaths spread from one region to a next to a next that would indicate that something was spreading around killing people.
+
+01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:28.000
+That's right. Now, Kim, in fact, I see the opposite. That's what's important. I see the opposite. I see the US, which has a very large number of very vulnerable people that did die.
+
+01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:44.000
+In the US, the excess mortality during the COVID period correlates perfectly with the poverty, the number of people living in poverty in the state. You get this incredible correlation line that goes through the origin of Pearson correlation
+
+01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:53.000
+of the coefficient of 0.86, which is unheard of. And so it was poor people who died, and especially in the southern states.
+
+01:13:53.000 --> 01:14:01.000
+Now, you cross this thousand kilometers of border between Canada and the US and there were no deaths in Canada in that whole period.
+
+01:14:01.000 --> 01:14:10.000
+Virtually none. You can hardly detect the excess mortality in Canada compared to the United States. That's impossible. These are two of the biggest trading partners in the world.
+
+01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:20.000
+The highways were open. It's impossible that a virus that is said to have been spreading did not want to cross the border to Canada.
+
+01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:30.000
+Same thing. I think that we've heard people on our side say that was the most infectious virus the earth has ever seen.
+
+01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:37.000
+Like the most infectious virus ever.
+
+01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:47.000
+You'll have the Trudeau's of the world and all the Trudeau's supporters saying, well, that's because we implemented some serious protocols that prevented people from traveling.
+
+01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:56.000
+You couldn't even travel in Canada. You guys were in major lockdown unlike what we were here in the United States. The lockdown levels that you guys experienced was much harsher.
+
+01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:01.000
+So they would say, I would think that you can always wave your hands and say that kind of thing.
+
+01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:11.000
+But if you believe that it's that it is a pandemic causing virus, you cannot believe that it will refuse to cross the border like that. That's just that's just incredible.
+
+01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:22.000
+There's no science that makes any sense if you want to believe that. But also, we in one of our studies, which I co-authored the lead author was John Johnson from Harvard University.
+
+01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:32.000
+And we authored a paper where we looked at states in the United States and we compared neighboring states that share a border, one that locked down and the other didn't.
+
+01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:49.000
+And they were comparable otherwise. We found 12 pairs of states like that that you could directly compare. And we found unambiguously that the lockdowns that states have these large excess mortalities, which were not present in the non lockdown neighbor that shared a border with it.
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+01:15:50.000 --> 01:16:03.000
+Okay, so that makes sense to me, except how do you explain that, you know, my guess is the hospitals were not overwhelmed in Canada, right? So it's like the people still have to show up.
+
+01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:08.000
+I mean, they don't magically, you know, they can't magically use a ventilator, right?
+
+01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:20.000
+And that has large cities and large hospitals. And they were claiming the same kinds of problems of overwork and over this and over that in Canada as anywhere, any other major city in the world, they were all screaming that.
+
+01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:26.000
+Okay. So just because it's a big country and a relatively small population doesn't mean.
+
+01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:37.000
+Well, you can see why why he's not getting attention. You can see why I've got him in the green here and you can see why he needs to be cordoned off.
+
+01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:52.000
+Because he's threatening this idea that there was a novel virus that millions of people died from a novel virus that millions of people were saved from a novel virus that gain a function is real and it was spreading like that because it was gain a function.
+
+01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:55.000
+This could come again.
+
+01:16:55.000 --> 01:17:02.000
+And you can hear Kim Iverson fighting desperately to preserve this faith.
+
+01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:17.000
+This tunnel of mythology that we are trapped in by people like Brett Weinstein and Steve Kirsch and Joe Rogan and everyone on this screen.
+
+01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:38.000
+Because none of these people on this screen either have the insight or the courage to question these fundamental mis truths, these fundamental pillars of this mythology that they want to govern our children by.
+
+01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:42.000
+Because they know this is true.
+
+01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:56.000
+And I have been kind of up on these guys because number one, they blocked me and number two, they are pushing this DNA contamination as being some kind of very significant thing that otherwise everything would be fine.
+
+01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:05.000
+And that's a particular critique of Phillip Buckholtz because Phillip Buckholtz is the guy who spoke in front of the South Carolina Senate.
+
+01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:20.000
+And after he spoke in front of the South Carolina Senate he answered some questions and in that question and answer he said that as the shots stand right now he would still recommend them for his parents but he might not recommend them for his daughter
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+01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:26.000
+and he himself wouldn't take them unless they could show that this DNA wasn't in there anymore.
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+01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:29.000
+Otherwise he thinks that the technology is great.
+
+01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:32.000
+And yes he said that.
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+01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:40.000
+And I respectfully disagree with him as a biologist and as a father and as a.
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+01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:42.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:18:42.000 --> 01:18:47.000
+The reason why I disagree with him I need to explain this again really quick because.
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+01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:56.000
+When I explained it yesterday I was a little imprecise about where these small interfering RNAs might come from and I think I made a little bit of a misstatement so I just want to clear it up here.
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+01:18:56.000 --> 01:19:00.000
+So a transfection in its purest form is wholly inappropriate for healthy humans.
+
+01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:08.000
+The analogy that I've been using lately is your grandma's apple pie and if you ask grandma to make 10,000 or 100,000 or even a million of her pies.
+
+01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:18.000
+He would have a whole host of issues with regard to scaling up that process in order to make those pies in any reasonable length of time.
+
+01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:37.000
+And that challenge was of course present in this scaling up of a transfection which would typically be manufactured on a bench and a nanogram scales instead to manufacture similar quantities.
+
+01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:41.000
+Sorry similar quality but in kilograms.
+
+01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:50.000
+And many people including Michael Eden very early on predicted that this was something that they were kind of glossing over as not being a big deal.
+
+01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:52.000
+But actually it was.
+
+01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:58.000
+And I actually think it was clear to some people already in 2020 that the.
+
+01:19:58.000 --> 01:20:07.000
+The lipid nanoparticles and the RNA that were used in the trial were produced in a different way than the.
+
+01:20:07.000 --> 01:20:12.000
+Mass production process to I do think that people were saying it but I haven't really.
+
+01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:22.000
+In my notes I don't really have who was saying I don't know where I heard it so I can't really claim that that was something that was out there but it did come out earlier this year now.
+
+01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:35.000
+So the RNA was impure is something we've known from the very beginning because when they submitted their documents to the EU and to the FDA there was not a single band on the RNA gel but it was a smear and that smear means.
+
+01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:45.000
+All this fragmented RNA or or or what we don't know because they didn't sequence it but there are many many many many tiny RNAs.
+
+01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:51.000
+And so that means that there's impurities in that RNA that can result in.
+
+01:20:51.000 --> 01:20:56.000
+You know not perfect production of the spike protein obviously but also.
+
+01:20:56.000 --> 01:21:01.000
+All of these RNAs can have many many unknown consequences especially given the.
+
+01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:06.000
+Huge overlap in many of the sequences of the spike protein.
+
+01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:20.000
+With our own endogenous sequences they're small short overlaps but they're still important relative from an epitome perspective and they're more they also are also important from the perspective of any of these RNA fragments that were produced.
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+01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:27.000
+In this process too and then not can't remove them so they're in these lipid nanoparticles as well.
+
+01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:40.000
+And interestingly one thing to say about that is that by talking about the DNA and the contamination of the DNA they are in a way distracting from the fact that the RNA was definitely impure.
+
+01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:59.000
+And it is possible that double stranded DNA is less dangerous than small interfering RNAs that might be the consequence of this horrible production method of these RNAs having a lot of short transcripts in that.
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+01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:07.000
+That could actually be a bigger problem than the double stranded DNA from from a molecular perspective simply because maybe this is just a hypothesis.
+
+01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:29.000
+Maybe the immune system and our cellular machinery is much more capable of rejecting double stranded DNA fragments than it would be capable of rejecting small interfering RNAs or modulatory RNAs or RNAs that would otherwise mess with the endogenous RNAs present in our cells.
+
+01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:34.000
+If double stranded DNA is more immunogenic then it'll be cleared easier.
+
+01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:58.000
+And so the potential here for the focus on double stranded DNA to be really an actual orchestrated attempt to distract us from all these other sources of danger and reasons to believe that they are criminally negligent is number one first of all that even in its purest form they had to know
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+01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:03.000
+that it was bad for healthy humans. They had to know they had to know they had to know.
+
+01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:19.000
+And so you don't need to go all the way down the list until you get to the double stranded DNA fragments that they recently found because you can start with number one then you go down to number two and you know that for sure that resulted in a lot of problems which yes include double stranded DNA.
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+01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:24.000
+They include endotoxins from the bacteria for sure.
+
+01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:41.000
+But the RNA was in pure from the beginning so we knew it wasn't going to produce spike only but it was going to produce all kinds of protein fragments and those fragmented RNAs were all packaged up in the in the lipid nanoparticle as well.
+
+01:23:41.000 --> 01:23:58.000
+So the RNA was code on optimize that means that there's going to be misfolding that means that whatever whatever epitopes are created are not necessarily the same epitopes would be would be created when the real viral coding of the spike was sent through the same
+
+01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:07.000
+ribosome. Very similar problems result from the chemical alteration of the modified RNA.
+
+01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:23.000
+Two main important ones are that the pseudoyiridine can cause premature stop codons which will then again give you truncated proteins and also can be effectively a wobble base so that many different substitutions in that amino acid chain and that therefore the complex
+
+01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:39.000
+the 3D construction of the protein that gets that results that this is also just going to add variability to the epitopes that are available after this transfection and challenge the immune system further.
+
+01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:54.000
+Not to overreact. It's just all added variability that you don't want if your goal is to usefully augment the immune system which obviously that's their goal.
+
+01:24:55.000 --> 01:25:01.000
+So the protein produces on characterizing highly variable for the reasons 3, 4, and 5.
+
+01:25:01.000 --> 01:25:17.000
+That means that your immune system is not given a a perfect set of epitopes but a huge bouquet of variability that it's supposed to sort through and somehow produce a useful immune response which is a pretty pretty ridiculous statement.
+
+01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:29.000
+So the LNP was never tested this is very important and we have of course you know right from the horse's mouth Peter Cullis thanks to Robert Malone's recommendation in his sub stack the day after the Nobel Prize was awarded.
+
+01:25:29.000 --> 01:25:46.000
+We watched a video with Peter Cullis and at the end during the question and answer he said that he burnt the lives of four five postdocs on the task of trying to target lipid nanoparticles to a particular region or a particular tissue and they failed and were probably 40 years away from ever achieving that.
+
+01:25:46.000 --> 01:25:51.000
+So we already knew that the lipid nanoparticles wouldn't stay where we put them.
+
+01:25:51.000 --> 01:26:05.000
+We already knew that there was this huge variability in where they would go and what that would do because we already knew that tissues have their own special ribosomes and so if you express the same RNA and different tissues you probably are going to get different proteins
+
+01:26:05.000 --> 01:26:20.000
+and definitely going to get different you know different lengths of their lifetimes of the RNA different regulation of the RNA based on the particular cell type that you express it in all of these things were known.
+
+01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:23.000
+All of these things were known.
+
+01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:27.000
+None of these things are a surprise.
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+01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:35.000
+Like Robert Malone said on on on Brett Weinstein's podcast that I just assumed that they fixed all these problems.
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+01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:39.000
+No, no, no, no, no, no.
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+01:26:39.000 --> 01:26:43.000
+No, that doesn't even make sense.
+
+01:26:44.000 --> 01:26:47.000
+Because all of these things are known. I'm not I'm not some.
+
+01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:49.000
+I had to learn this.
+
+01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:56.000
+I had to make this list over many months of study, but not Robert Malone.
+
+01:26:56.000 --> 01:27:03.000
+Not Berzowski, not Fauci, not David Baltimore, not Vincent Rancin yellow.
+
+01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:06.000
+They don't need they didn't need they knew this.
+
+01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:14.000
+Not Annie DeGroat, not not Peter Teal, not Eric Weinstein.
+
+01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:21.000
+These people knew this stuff and if they didn't know it then people that they knew knew it.
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+01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:26.000
+They've known it for decades.
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+01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:30.000
+They've known that endotoxins are highly immunogenic.
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+01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:32.000
+They know that. Why do they know that?
+
+01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:36.000
+If they make a protein bio.
+
+01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:39.000
+If they make a protein product.
+
+01:27:39.000 --> 01:27:42.000
+Which is a biologic.
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+01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:49.000
+They can use anion exchange chromatography to remove all of the nucleic acids DNA and RNA.
+
+01:27:49.000 --> 01:27:55.000
+And in fact monoclonal antibodies are held to a standard of zero nucleic acids.
+
+01:27:56.000 --> 01:28:16.000
+It's one of the most expensive parts of the process of developing monoclonal and producing monoclonal antibodies so much so that entire batches can be thrown away if they don't pass the testing for purity after they are subject to anion exchange chromatography.
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+01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:30.000
+Because it's so expensive to run the batch through that process again would lose all the profit of the batch and maybe even cost more money and can be recouped by the sale.
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+01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:47.000
+And this is also a well understood part of the process of making monoclonal antibodies and of the regulatory process and structure that protects these as products as pure products.
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+01:28:47.000 --> 01:29:00.000
+Anybody that was involved in arbitration of these biological ideas, these biological products like monoclonal antibodies would definitely understand some or all of these sort of production requirements.
+
+01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:14.000
+Surely Robert Malone would understand these production requirements surely the vaccine center of the NIH and Barney and all these people would definitely know the limitations of transfection.
+
+01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:33.000
+The limitations of lipid nanoparticles, the limitations of mass manufacturing using a bacterial basis of plasma replication, they know, they can't not know because these are not new technologies ladies and gentlemen.
+
+01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:45.000
+And so yeah, there are double stranded DNA fragments from process to their sure are and you know what we were told for almost two years that we had to be concerned because the spike was toxic.
+
+01:29:45.000 --> 01:30:02.000
+The spike from the back from the vaccine is actually sometimes causing myocarditis but man oh man the spike from the back from the virus did cause a lot more myocarditis.
+
+01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:24.000
+And there were lots of people in our movement that spent many, many months, many, many podcasts, many, many sub stacks talking about the spike and how it might have been the wrong protein.
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+01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:38.000
+The source said maybe we should have used the end protein, Brett Weinstein and Robert Malone discussed how maybe we shouldn't have used this extremely toxic protein maybe we should have taken some of the epitopes out.
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+01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:42.000
+Maybe we should have just used the receptor binding domain.
+
+01:30:42.000 --> 01:31:01.000
+The conversation occurred over over a year and a half ladies and gentlemen do not forget how long no one said anything about RNA and purity codon optimization chemically altered your stop codons or the protein being uncharacterized in highly variable.
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+01:31:01.000 --> 01:31:20.000
+People and talked about the lipid nanoparticle going everywhere in the body as being a significant thing except for very few people and somehow or another these leading dissidents these 10 people who saved the world have never been able to put all these things together in a single presentation.
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+01:31:20.000 --> 01:31:27.000
+They've never been able to summarize all the dangers while they're on stage.
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+01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:37.000
+People can only talk about Ivermectin other people can only talk about informed consent other people can only talk about a lab leak other people can only talk about myocarditis.
+
+01:31:37.000 --> 01:31:49.000
+But nobody seems to be able to summarize it all together at once as lying except for Mike Eden and Nick Hudson and me.
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+01:31:49.000 --> 01:31:57.000
+Get no amplification on social media.
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+01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:00.000
+None.
+
+01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:18.000
+And no amplification from any of these really you know people that suffered sacrificed a lot for our dissident movement.
+
+01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:29.000
+These guys I mean these guys who've talked about them all.
+
+01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:31.000
+This is where we are.
+
+01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:47.000
+They want your kids data they want to make it normal for children to believe in pandemics and believe in public health and take the word of the doctors and more vaccines the better.
+
+01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:55.000
+Take your recommended vaccines and the way out is to explain this lie.
+
+01:32:55.000 --> 01:33:02.000
+This faith in a novel virus and the ability to detect it with high fidelity.
+
+01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:11.000
+National security plan that was already there and the only way they could have done it with any sort of honesty.
+
+01:33:11.000 --> 01:33:22.000
+Is that they used a clone and they seeded it in multiple places so that the people that they tried to culture would be pretty successful and they would definitely get a sequence that would match other sequences in the world.
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+01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:30.000
+And remove any shadow of a doubt from anybody that was looking for proof of a pandemic.
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+01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:33.000
+That would be it.
+
+01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:41.000
+And without the sophisticated understanding of what RNA and DNA can and can't do.
+
+01:33:41.000 --> 01:33:56.000
+Without a pretty sophisticated understanding of how exaggerated the fidelity of our understanding and the infectious cycle is without a sophisticated understanding of how the immune system works and doesn't work.
+
+01:33:56.000 --> 01:34:09.000
+It's very easy for somebody to be shown that data has a bureaucrat a high paid diplomat bureaucrat and say that okay you remember that thing we drilled.
+
+01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:14.000
+You remember that plan we had well it's time to put that plan into motion.
+
+01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:16.000
+And that's what they did.
+
+01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:28.000
+And that plan that is in motion includes the inversion of our sovereignty to permissions it includes that so as soon as there was a pandemic.
+
+01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:34.000
+All of these government bureaucrats understand that okay we're moving to digital ID no.
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+01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:45.000
+Okay we're moving to lockdown and digital ID they knew that already that's something you need to understand a lot of these people know where this is going and have known where it's going for a long time.
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+01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:51.000
+That's why they've been so confident that they're right.
+
+01:34:51.000 --> 01:35:01.000
+That's why even people on the dissident side are actually walking a very fine line between warning you and announcing it.
+
+01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:07.000
+And if you listen carefully you can hear that a lot of times people are just more or less announcing it.
+
+01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:10.000
+The who has power.
+
+01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:15.000
+The who if they pass a treaty you lose.
+
+01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:25.000
+Is that warning you or is that just telling you what's going to happen and announcing the thing you're supposed to accept.
+
+01:35:25.000 --> 01:35:35.000
+Be very wary of people who purport to be warning you and actually are only announcing what's going to happen.
+
+01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:49.000
+And so this all revolves around of course this idea of pandemic potential being available in bat caves being accessible through cell culture being accessible through animal passage or being successful through genetic stitch work.
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+01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:59.000
+And again the worst case scenario is this story that Brett Weinstein and Sam Harris and and Rand Paul and Tony Fauci and.
+
+01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:16.000
+And the the proximal origins authors and all of these people that were emailing with Tony Fauci early on they all created this illusion of a cover up of a gain of function virus leak.
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+01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:30.000
+And the illusion of a cover up is still going on now Paul off it and the same podcast that I cited earlier also said that it's just ridiculous that people are still talking about this as a lab leak of course it wasn't a lab leak it was a leak.
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+It was a jump and they happen and that's how this stuff works.
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+The bat cave potential is all you need for Paul off it.
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+01:36:39.000 --> 01:36:56.000
+The stitching together a viruses is all you need to condemn equal health alliance and you can fight about either of these as potential and you agree with the premise that there are pandemic potential viruses that we need public health to protect us from.
+
+01:36:56.000 --> 01:37:02.000
+And that we need cures for the best cures are vaccines.
+
+01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:10.000
+That's the illusion of consensus that there was a novel virus killed millions of people that millions of people were saved.
+
+01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:23.000
+Can a function is real and therefore the virus will come again and they will they do this by again not doing the math of excess deaths and many people on our side are not doing the math of excess deaths.
+
+01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:30.000
+They're still attributing way too many deaths to a novel virus that didn't kill anybody.
+
+01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:40.000
+A novel virus that only exists in the context of PCR tests novel virus that only exists in the context of PCR tests and lateral flow tests.
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+01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:44.000
+It's just absurd at this stage.
+
+01:37:44.000 --> 01:38:02.000
+The do not resuscitate orders in New York City the ventilators that were used the lack of antibiotics the poor use of steroids remdesivir madazalam opioid deaths on top of that and death certificate fraud because it was financially encouraged.
+
+01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:11.000
+None of this is ever they don't ever do this equation. They don't ever subtract this stuff.
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+01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:20.000
+More importantly they avoid the discussion of the PCR fraud the idea that you know that we were even testing for anything.
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+01:38:20.000 --> 01:38:25.000
+The lateral flow test fraud was the similar thing done in the UK.
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+01:38:25.000 --> 01:38:37.000
+The variance in the sequences are just taken on face value RNA infectious clones basically caused everybody to block me everybody to attack me.
+
+01:38:37.000 --> 01:38:52.000
+People worth millions of dollars decided that Jay was worth tweeting about all because I tried to teach people that RNA infectious clones are the only technology that allow them to study any form of an RNA virus.
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+01:38:52.000 --> 01:39:00.000
+They can't study RNA viruses without making clones of them.
+
+01:39:00.000 --> 01:39:09.000
+And it's just absurd how people reacted to this revelation this description as well it doesn't matter.
+
+01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:14.000
+So much so that you know we have to ignore Jay now.
+
+01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:30.000
+The same basic thing happened when I started to explore quasi species genetics but it I think that was an it was an easier concept for them to fend off because it is more complicated and it's more mathematical it's more theoretical.
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+01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:35.000
+The RNA infectious clone thing is really like making cakes.
+
+01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:52.000
+And once you explain that making cakes can only go a certain way it's pretty easy for everybody to understand it once you do the mixtape is pretty easy to understand once you explain mp3s versus flak files it makes sense.
+
+01:39:53.000 --> 01:40:06.000
+And so you know incompetent fraction all the stuff about virology we don't talk about any of it they don't teach any of it because it questions the very principle of a novel virus it questions the very principle of pandemic potential and gain a function and all this stuff.
+
+01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:14.000
+And they don't want that they need that they want your kids to believe that this virus was created by evil people that didn't have respect for mother nature.
+
+01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:25.000
+They want you to believe that it's becoming ever more easy to do this because all these tools are so we're going to be using CRISPR to make make viruses that are 10 times worse than this one.
+
+01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:37.000
+They want your children they want our our college age kids they want young people to believe this so that they grow up in a world where they accept this as true.
+
+01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:43.000
+Then they'll be the easiest to govern citizens that have ever walked the earth.
+
+01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:46.000
+That's the goal.
+
+01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:51.000
+All the information about this mythology is available on their phone.
+
+01:40:51.000 --> 01:41:00.000
+The latest updates on the mythology come in on the phone the images and the facts and figures of the mythology come in on the phone.
+
+01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:10.000
+And so if they want you to jump through hoops because people are shooting each other on the other side of the planet they can make that happen if they want you to stay at home they can make that happen.
+
+01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:18.000
+They want you to think that there was an attack in another city they can make that happen with this little device right here it's a window to the world.
+
+01:41:18.000 --> 01:41:24.000
+An illusion of consensus is created by the last four people that you read that all agreed.
+
+01:41:24.000 --> 01:41:27.000
+Obviously I don't need to think about it then.
+
+01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:38.000
+I mean if Robert Malone and Brett Weinstein and Steve Kirsch all agree who am I to argue with these three successful men.
+
+01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:50.000
+We worked together to create this illusion of a Scooby-Doo mystery that we had to solve about people covering up a laboratory leak and whether or not that's plausible biology or not.
+
+01:41:50.000 --> 01:42:04.000
+And what's not plausible about it is the the presumptive the presumptions that are required in order for this theory to work which is depicted by the green earth.
+
+01:42:04.000 --> 01:42:24.000
+Before 2019 there was no SARS-CoV-2 and so therefore we were all vulnerable to it when it leaked from the laboratory and then it changed over the years as it went around the world until here we are in 2023 with yet another set of variants
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+01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:33.000
+of evidence in previous literature experience or recordings of tracking a coronavirus with this fidelity.
+
+01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:41.000
+It's just absurd.
+
+01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:52.000
+And this illusion of consensus has trapped most of us into thinking that there's a Scooby-Doo mystery to solve.
+
+01:42:52.000 --> 01:43:06.000
+And while we solved that Scooby-Doo mystery of where is that virus come from and how they killed people with the protocols and then blamed it on the virus so that we kept believing that there was a mystery to solve.
+
+01:43:06.000 --> 01:43:14.000
+And so there are a lot of doctors who are guilty guilty of criminal negligence guilty of being stupid.
+
+01:43:15.000 --> 01:43:17.000
+That's what they are.
+
+01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:19.000
+That's what Doc Malek is saying now.
+
+01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:21.000
+That's what a lot of people need to really admit.
+
+01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:24.000
+They were dumb.
+
+01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:28.000
+That they believed that, you know,
+
+01:43:28.000 --> 01:43:36.000
+intramuscularly injecting a child with 36 different things in its first two years of life is totally normal.
+
+01:43:36.000 --> 01:43:44.000
+Because you didn't take the time to learn yourself the biology that they purport to base these schedules on.
+
+01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:56.000
+Every nurse who didn't learn the biology and come to the conclusion that something was off his guilty guilty of negligence guilty of being dumb.
+
+01:43:57.000 --> 01:44:09.000
+And they use fear, frustration, confusion in the beginning and they used an illusion of consensus to take advantage of people to scare them into being dumb.
+
+01:44:10.000 --> 01:44:13.000
+And so we don't want to condemn any of these people.
+
+01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:15.000
+We want them to confess.
+
+01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:23.000
+We want them to seek with some remorse.
+
+01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:26.000
+That's what we want.
+
+01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:31.000
+And then we welcome them home with open arms.
+
+01:44:31.000 --> 01:44:37.000
+But these people have to admit that they made some pretty gigantic mistakes when it counted.
+
+01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:41.000
+When it was an emergency and they did not have principles.
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+01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:45.000
+As Alexandra Smerino said so eloquently.
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+01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:49.000
+It only matters when there's an emergency whether you have principles.
+
+01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:51.000
+That's when it counts.
+
+01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:58.000
+And Brett Weinstein did not have principles when it counted.
+
+01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:07.000
+He did not have the biological knowledge or the forthright studious commitment to learning it.
+
+01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:14.000
+In order to save anybody meaningfully he didn't save a single college kid from taking the shot.
+
+01:45:14.000 --> 01:45:15.000
+Not one.
+
+01:45:15.000 --> 01:45:16.000
+I tried.
+
+01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:21.000
+But not one college kid was saved by any of these people on this screen.
+
+01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:28.000
+Not one college kid was saved from taking a mandated vaccine on a campus by any of these people.
+
+01:45:28.000 --> 01:45:30.000
+Not one even spoke out.
+
+01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:41.000
+Richard Ebright tweeted in 2020 that if we open colleges this fall will kill a quarter million people by Christmas.
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+01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:50.000
+A quarter million people would die on college campuses if we opened them said Richard Ebright and none of these people said anything.
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+01:45:51.000 --> 01:45:53.000
+None of these people argued with him.
+
+01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:57.000
+I think I tweeted I'll take that bet.
+
+01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:01.000
+That's what we're talking about here.
+
+01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:07.000
+This illusion of consensus didn't save a single college kid from getting this injection not one.
+
+01:46:08.000 --> 01:46:15.000
+And every one of these people should be ashamed of themselves because every one of these people should have spoke out and said no we're not going to do that to these guys.
+
+01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:17.000
+Come on.
+
+01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:19.000
+Old people may be.
+
+01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:34.000
+And we should of course not said maybe to the old people but I'm just trying to illustrate how ridiculous it is that none of these people stood up and said we shouldn't be transfecting college age children.
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+01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:41.000
+College age young adults should not be taking this shot to go back to campus.
+
+01:46:46.000 --> 01:46:49.000
+But colleges encourage the HPV shot as well.
+
+01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:58.000
+Colleges encourage the RSV shot and the flu shot and masks and we just didn't speak out against them.
+
+01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:08.000
+And so this illusion of consensus was really created on purpose.
+
+01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:13.000
+It's a faith in a novel virus and in order to beat it you've got to call the faith alive.
+
+01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:14.000
+You've got to call it what it is.
+
+01:47:14.000 --> 01:47:15.000
+It's a lie.
+
+01:47:15.000 --> 01:47:17.000
+It's a lie about a background signal.
+
+01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:18.000
+It's a lie about fidelity.
+
+01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:19.000
+It's a lie about something.
+
+01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:24.000
+And it's a criminal investigation so we better figure it out.
+
+01:47:24.000 --> 01:47:26.000
+You're going to call it in endemic background.
+
+01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:27.000
+That's fine.
+
+01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:30.000
+Protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine.
+
+01:47:30.000 --> 01:47:34.000
+And you want to think that they released infectious clones to make it really clean?
+
+01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:36.000
+I think it's a really good bet.
+
+01:47:37.000 --> 01:47:40.000
+But it still doesn't change the fact that the protocols were murder.
+
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+That's how they got this to happen and transfection is not medicine.
+
+01:47:43.000 --> 01:47:47.000
+And none of these people spoke out usefully to save anybody from taking that shot.
+
+01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:51.000
+The ones that really, really needed saving.
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+01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:58.000
+You want to say that they released transfection agents or they're doing it right now and we're shedding and that's also a problem.
+
+01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:00.000
+That's totally okay with me too.
+
+01:48:00.000 --> 01:48:02.000
+Protocols were murder, transfection isn't medicine.
+
+01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:04.000
+And none of those people saved any college kids.
+
+01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:09.000
+None of these people saved any college kids either.
+
+01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:19.000
+The reality is that maybe they did because they didn't believe in anything but these people didn't help us get out.
+
+01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:24.000
+If anything, they just made it harder for us to figure out what was going wrong.
+
+01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:31.000
+It's a conflated background signal of some kind and the faith in the novel virus is a lie.
+
+01:48:31.000 --> 01:48:33.000
+This is a lie.
+
+01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:35.000
+And that's all you got to know.
+
+01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:43.000
+By looking at what they don't talk about, consistently don't talk about and consistently won't challenge, you can definitely see them for who they are.
+
+01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:52.000
+If they're making grand statements about what they did and what they role they played in it, but they've never mentioned any of this stuff, bingo.
+
+01:48:53.000 --> 01:49:05.000
+If they're selling a book that's focused on bio weapons or focused on one particular aspect of the pandemic, it's almost a bingo.
+
+01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:19.000
+If they have a sub stack where they started out on one single idea, like VAERS or one single idea, like a fear and cleavage site or one single idea.
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+It's a pretty big red flag.
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+If you didn't talk about natural immunity and in like the first two years of the pandemic, even though you were supposedly a biologist, this is, this is not acceptable.
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+Anybody that didn't roll up their sleeves and teach themselves immunology 101 in 2020 while they were supposed to be a pro biologist.
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+I'm sorry, but no.
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+Like what else was there to do?
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+You have to get in shape, I guess.
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+Read every immunology book you could find, get rid of the contradictions, boil it down to the basics, make sure that you could confirm everything and whatever you can confirm.
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+You better at least make sure that the people on TV at least acknowledge those principles and guess what? They didn't.
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+And they want your day to please stop transfections in humans full stop.
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+I'm sorry that this wasn't such a great stream, you know, but at least I was here.
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+We're getting this streak going a little bit again, so we got to get the momentum.
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+And so I'm practicing, practicing, practicing, staying under two hours, I guess, but that's not really a feat.
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+It would be nice if I could get this down to like 45 minutes, but I'm going to start cutting clips in the near future.
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+I'm going to go on peer tube as soon as Ted gets that done.
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+We're going to start trying to have our own private streaming independent platform that also simultaneously streams to Twitch and maybe other places depending on what we can organize.
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+So there's a lot of things in the works, and I hope that, how come that explosion doesn't go?
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+It cannot play media.
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+Something's wrong with my memory or something like that, I guess we're overloading here.
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+So intrabuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system of healthy humans, including transfection and transformation, is criminally negligent.
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+Thanks very much for joining me this evening.
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+I'm glad that all of you guys were here.
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+This is GIGO and Biological.
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+You can find me at GIGO and Biological.com and you can also wrap with me at GIGO and .bio.
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+GIGO and .bio.
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+It's probably going to be like stream . GIGO and .bio where we're going to set up the peer tube.
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+More on that as it gets developed.
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+Boy, I need a drink and I need to go to bed.
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+JFK was definitely killed by the bankers for Executive Order 110, which was when he started tying $5 bills to the silver standard, I believe.
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+Correct me if I'm wrong.
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+Thanks very much for joining me, guys.
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+I'm going to see you again tomorrow.
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+I had a cancellation for a morning show, so it's going to probably be an afternoon show again tomorrow.
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+I'm hoping to get a special guest this week yet, but I don't want to announce his name in case it doesn't work out.
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+We've got a couple in the barrel and otherwise we'll just do an impromptu stream like we did tonight.
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+Thank you very much. See you tomorrow.
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+Oh, I should have come over here.
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+That was better.
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+You
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+He's going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television.
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+People everywhere are starting to listen to him.
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+Now
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+Well, what started out as a fishing trip sure ended in a dandy mystery.
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+What school be doing?
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+Oh, he's still fishing.
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+Oh come on, schools.
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+Give up.
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+You're not going to catch anything in that water.
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+Right.
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+That's one best story no one will believe.
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+That's one best story no one will believe.
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+Good evening ladies and gentlemen this is Giga Ohm Biological, a high resistance low noise
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+information brought to you by a biologist since the 15th of November 2023.
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+Let's read this one out loud.
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+The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion but allow a very lively debate within that spectrum.
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+Even encourage the more critical and dissident views.
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+That gives people the sense that there is free thinking going on while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.
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+That's what these people have done to us.
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+That's what the intellectual dark web was set up to do to us.
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+And I believe if you take the time to investigate their opinions in 2019 through the transition to 2020.
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+Before this.
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+Before this record is wiped clean or.
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+I cleansed.
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+I assure you that you will see that this was not some happenstance accident.
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+That these people were where they were when they were at the start of the pandemic.
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+Brett Weinstein on his eighth podcast.
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+Sorry.
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+So we need to learn the history.
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+That's what Mark is good for at this stage and boys.
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+He good for it.
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+And that's what I really like about his atomic life and his coverage.
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+Thank you very much for that Mark.
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+Because he has been looking at the historical connections between these charlatans.
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+And that's a really.
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+That turns out to be a very very rich gold mine.
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+A very very rich gold mine.
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+And in fact I think the bricks are even more visible in the history of these people than it is right now.
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+We should call them operatives.
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+That's true.
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+We should call them operatives.
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+And the brick wall that's visible at the back of the theater is often a historical one.
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+But if we look at what happened in the last three years there are also certain things that we can say.
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+And look at the last three years there are certain things that we learn.
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+And we can pretty much say with certainty that there was no spread in New York City.
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+There was no spread in lots of places.
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+It was death respected borders.
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+And spreading pathogens don't do that.
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+Infectious clones are the only real threat is a question that I think we've answered.
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+Placebo batches were likely distributed is also a question that seems to have been answered by the Danish study and others.
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+And transfection and healthy mammals is dumb.
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+Well that's being proved every day.
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+The protocols were definitely murder although nobody really wants to talk about it.
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+And the question is a mythology that many people are pushing because gain of function is part of this Scooby-Doo mystery.
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+One of the monsters that were unmasking is this gain of function.
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+Monster.
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+And the players are committed to that lie in the lies about the protocols or let's just say lying by omission about the protocols.
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+And yeah, this is the lie that they have their utmost faith in.
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+There was a novel virus that millions died and millions more were saved.
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+Gain of function is real and a virus will come again.
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+That's it.
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+And so Gigo and biological is arranged nightly against this narrative and trying to dissect it with common sense and biology that we can verify that has been verified.
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+Let's say it that way.
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+Biological models of biology have biological models of biology.
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+Biological models that have been verified by real world biology.
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+And when the models don't work then the models are discarded.
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+That's how actual science is done.
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+But with virology and and vaccinology there seem to be some presumptions that irrespective of how the biology ends up lining up.
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+We don't seem to want to give in to.
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+Good evening ladies and gentlemen.
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+This is Gigo and biological.
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+My name is Jonathan Cooley.
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+I'm coming to you from the back of my garage in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
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+It is 916 local time on the 15th of November.
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+And this is another broadcast.
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+I don't know how long we're going to keep going like this, but I plan to do it for a while.
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+It's a lot of fun to kind of have a reason to keep myself busy at night and put my energy into something that otherwise I would be pulling my hair out at least now.
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+And I'm clipping all these things and taking all these notes.
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+At least I'm using them for something.
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+And I always start out with the same message.
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+So if you're here for the first time, these might sound snappy.
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+But actually for a lot of people these are snooze material.
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+So let's go really quick.
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+Don't take the bait on TV and social media because it's not a matter of what counts.
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+It's not a matter of what's true.
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+It's counts.
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+But a matter of what is perceived to be true.
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+The reason why that's written in that way is because it is presumed by me to be a quote of Henry Kissinger.
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+So it's not necessarily the way that I would write it.
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+But it's the way he's quoted as having said it.
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+So if I can't read it, it's not because it's my words that I can't read.
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+But these are my words.
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+Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
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+And transfection in healthy humans is criminally negligent.
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+Those are my words.
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+And I can read those.
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+So we looked at a video.
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+Maybe I should just shift over already to the other side of things.
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+And I will get rid of the music here.
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+We watched this video yesterday.
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+A gentleman by the name of Brzofsky, I believe, related to cancer and the NIH and the Cancer Vaccines Branch.
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+And we've listened to this video a couple times, both on my stream and also on Mark's stream.
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+And it is a video where basically he makes the statement that vaccination is a methodology that will eventually work on everything for diseases that our immune system doesn't respond adequately enough.
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+There should be some way to train it.
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+He's also the author, the co-author of a paper that we've been discussing, which revealed some of the lies and the knowledge that they've had.
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+This is a paper again from 2004.
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+We've read this opening paragraph a couple times about the fact that the markets for vaccines is driven by perception, not by actual need and that the funding after September 11th went way up.
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+Because bioterrorism in several years of sustained increases in government funding have had a stimulatory effect on vaccine development as well as AIDS research has.
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+And of course we know that almost all of these people who are involved in this narrative right now cut their teeth at some point in their career through the laboratory of somebody who was involved in anything from the actual delineation and definition of the AIDS virus
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+and the syndromes that it causes all the way down to, let's say, treatment and fundraising and basic research like Walensky was involved in.
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+So it's really very, very extraordinary how many of these red threads run through all of these characters, their mentors run back all through the human genome project all the way back to this special cancer virus program.
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+Special virus cancer program and to laboratories like Bob Gallo and Murray Gardner and David Baltimore.
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+All the way back to the very place where retroviruses and other viruses were first defined and first thought to be the bringing humanity to the cusp of being able to manipulate our own genome.
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+We were people like Robert Malone have described it that way as the buzz in these labs and the excitement over the discovery of retroviruses and PCR and all this other stuff really made people start to think that wow, we're about to have a giant breakthrough.
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+And so he was really concerned that he make the right choice of who's lab to work in and what technology to work on.
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+Anyway, this is in 2004 that that guy that we just saw in that video was again talking and advocating for the idea that vaccines as a methodology can be applied to a lot of different quote unquote diseases.
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+And I find it very interesting that this entire paper is basically packed with truth. And so if you wouldn't mind, I'd just like to read a couple paragraphs here from section two, which is titled genome to proteome to immune
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+the suffix O M E sort of designating library or catalog or or golden grimoire. And so you have the genome, you have the proteomes of the proteins of that whole living thing.
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+And the idea, the concept is an almost an infinite one. So it, when they first started throwing out the word proteome, I used to get really frustrated with it.
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+But I kind of just rolled with it after five years. It's like, okay, everybody's going to keep saying it, whatever, but it's kind of dumb because the genome is essentially the genetic code of an organism.
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+So the proteome then would be all the possible proteins that can be produced from the genome. And so if you study the proteome, it's like trying to say that, well, I study the English language and so I study the language
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+and you study books. So you study the book home, and I'm going to study all the possible books that can be made from the English language. And it's like, okay, but that's
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+that's kind of a different thing than saying you're going to study the English language. You're going to study all the books that can be written by the English language is like what?
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+That's that's incredible.
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+And so from a biological perspective, and I know that at least Mark and I, if we were sitting at a campfire and it was late night with, well, I don't know, I guess he doesn't drink, but I would have to have rum or something like that.
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+We would be talking late night into this idea of how these, the biological possibility space just expands infinitesimally when you go from here are all the genes and we think we can read all these proteins.
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+And so these proteins are these proteins is so ridiculously simplistic given the way that the way that mRNA is regulated, the way that mRNA is differentially translated by ribosomes in different places in the cell.
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+Never mind different tissues. Never mind different people with different genetic background. It's just, it's mind blowing how much variation is possible from genome to proteome.
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+And then to talk about proteome to the immune home is also this, you know, trying to get people to think about some kind of big amorphous concept.
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+And in this case, it's talking about what parts of proteins are attractive to the immune system such that the immune system will choose to make memory to those epitopes and not all the other epitopes that are found.
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+And why are there some consistent patterns in the way that somebody like me who has a mixed race background of Filipino and all kinds of other things.
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+And someone else with a mixed race background of Native American and other things would still sometimes respond to the same epitopes on the same proteins of a pathogen.
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+And so there has to be some kind of commonality there. And I think one of the things that we're going to explore over the next couple months is something that was also sort of stumbled on by the help of Mark Gulak
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+is this idea of the immune system looking for molecular motifs that are associated with damage.
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+And so that could be molecular motifs in a protein that are hydrophobic so that they cause, they can cause proteins to stick to membranes or disrupt membranes.
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+I'm just trying to imagine some other examples. It might be combinations of anions or cationic chains that cause the immune system to recognize something as being potentially damage causing.
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+And that's an interesting theory that quite a few immunologists have had over the years, but has remained very obscure in terms of the discussions in textbooks and all this other things.
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+But it's actually just an alternative way to try and explain how the immune system might select the epitopes that it does.
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+And there are lots of patterns, apparent patterns in the way that people of different genetic backgrounds still zero in on the same epitopes that suggest there might be such a selectivity thing where you're looking for patterns that have already in evolution
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+been identified as potentially dangerous or not useful for us.
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+Anyway, so if you read this thing, it says, selecting the correct antigen or antigens has always been a major stumbling block for black scene development.
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+New genome analysis tools based on bioinformatics and immunoinformatics, so that's just bioinformatics, immunoinformatics.
+
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+These are all giant words that just mean we're going to take lots and lots of measurements and try to find patterns in them.
+
+19:52.500 --> 20:06.500
+Are now making it possible to derive proteins or antigens of interest directly from the genomes of pathogens and are contributing to the development of new concepts in vaccine designs such as genome or immune or derived vaccines.
+
+20:06.500 --> 20:20.500
+So what they're suggesting is that they can use the data that they get from lots and lots of screening of activated T cells and small protein fragments to start to predict.
+
+20:20.500 --> 20:28.500
+What of these epitopes are capable of activating the immune system now there.
+
+20:28.500 --> 20:40.500
+The beautiful thing about this paragraph is how much of their motivation gets revealed by this because they are very distinctly talking about vaccine design.
+
+20:40.500 --> 20:56.500
+And again, you and I both know, because we've been working on it for years, that vaccine design then implies a correlate of immunity 99.9% of the time is going to be B cell output antibodies.
+
+20:57.500 --> 21:05.500
+So in general, host immune response to a pathogen is thought to be mediated by several arms of the immune system.
+
+21:05.500 --> 21:07.500
+Wow, that's surprising.
+
+21:07.500 --> 21:25.500
+They actually seem like they're telling the truth here. Antibodies come first though, which is not right, T helper cells, which drive antibody response and cytotoxic T lymphocytes for intracellular pathogens.
+
+21:25.500 --> 21:31.500
+So intracellular pathogens, it's not really clear whether that means viral infected cells or not.
+
+21:31.500 --> 21:43.500
+T cell responses, both T helper and cytotoxic T lymphocytes, are stimulated by the presence of short peptides bound on the surface of antigen presenting cells.
+
+21:44.500 --> 21:58.500
+And so those are the MHC molecules, also called HLA molecules. MHC is major histocompatibility complex. HLA is human lymphocyte antigen, actually.
+
+21:58.500 --> 22:07.500
+These epitopes are derived from antigens of the pathogen by a series of steps that include proteolytic processing of antigenic proteins.
+
+22:07.500 --> 22:18.500
+So proteolytic is proteolytic cutting, so they're going to cut the proteins up and process their antigenic characters.
+
+22:18.500 --> 22:39.500
+It's kind of a lot of hand-waving to say, yeah, the antigenic cells are antigen-presenting cells take in parts of the pathogen and process the proteins that they find and then choose by some magic selection process a small epitope or epitopes to present on MHC to the T cells.
+
+22:40.500 --> 22:51.500
+And the T cells that can recognize it will be activated, will divide and proliferate and then spread out and hopefully try to cooperate with B cells that are detecting floating antigens themselves.
+
+22:51.500 --> 23:07.500
+It is the T cell epitope that drives protective immune response to vaccines because T cell help is required for the orchestration of immune memory, whether humoral or cellular.
+
+23:08.500 --> 23:10.500
+That's fantastic.
+
+23:10.500 --> 23:13.500
+How many times have you heard that from Brett Weinstein?
+
+23:13.500 --> 23:17.500
+We've never heard that.
+
+23:17.500 --> 23:36.500
+The T cells are the most important thing and why are they most important because they are the ones that coordinate and allow the other cells to do their thing to proliferate, to produce plasma cells, memory cells for cytotoxic T cells to also proliferate.
+
+23:36.500 --> 23:49.500
+And also, the T helper cells are necessary to help the cytotoxic T cells cross the endothelium out of the blood and into the tissue.
+
+23:49.500 --> 23:54.500
+Otherwise, the cytotoxic T cells just float around in the blood all the time.
+
+23:54.500 --> 24:00.500
+So, a whole host of things has to happen so that the T cells know where to stop.
+
+24:00.500 --> 24:11.500
+There have to be endothelial cells near the infection that start to express adhesion molecules so that the T cells can actually land on them.
+
+24:11.500 --> 24:29.500
+And then the T helper cells chemically encourage the endothelial cells to release the connective proteins between them so there's a little bit of a gap for the cytotoxic T cells to amebically go in to the site of the infection, be it the lungs
+
+24:29.500 --> 24:32.500
+or somewhere in your skin.
+
+24:32.500 --> 24:44.500
+This is a well understood process that's orchestrated by all sorts of concentration gradients that require there to be a site of infection at a barrier.
+
+24:44.500 --> 25:07.500
+And so, as they describe it so succinctly in a few sentences, it's kind of remarkable that in the three years of the pandemic, the PBS NewsHour or Ben Shapiro or Sam Harris or, you know, Brett Weinstein Joe Rogan couldn't have read any one of these papers and found out, wow, that's crazy.
+
+25:08.500 --> 25:10.500
+We don't need vaccines.
+
+25:10.500 --> 25:19.500
+And, you know, we're kind of paying a lot of money to encourage people to get them and to have them and to make them.
+
+25:19.500 --> 25:21.500
+We're not going to use them.
+
+25:21.500 --> 25:23.500
+Why would they make them?
+
+25:23.500 --> 25:24.500
+We've got to buy them.
+
+25:24.500 --> 25:25.500
+What are we doing with them?
+
+25:25.500 --> 25:27.500
+You know, you could ask all kinds of questions about this.
+
+25:27.500 --> 25:35.500
+And then the second, second section of the paper is, you know, pretty succinct to me.
+
+25:35.500 --> 25:41.500
+Protective immune responses may be generated based on a single immunodominant epitope or many epitopes.
+
+25:41.500 --> 25:49.500
+As it turns out, the generation of this response does not appear to require the development of B and T cell memory to every possible peptide.
+
+25:49.500 --> 25:51.500
+Well, no kidding.
+
+25:52.500 --> 26:02.500
+Derived from every protein antigen in the entire pathogen only selected peptides passed through the processing and binding steps and successfully stimulated T cell response.
+
+26:02.500 --> 26:10.500
+Thus, T cell responses to a selected set of peptides and an ensemble of epitopes.
+
+26:10.500 --> 26:14.500
+See if I have the rest over here so I can just quickly read it.
+
+26:14.500 --> 26:16.500
+Do I have it over here?
+
+26:16.500 --> 26:18.500
+Did I really not?
+
+26:18.500 --> 26:28.500
+It doesn't matter. They say that is a selective ensemble of epitopes is sufficient to develop immunity to the pathogen, just a few.
+
+26:28.500 --> 26:38.500
+And so then they make the argument that if we could predict or find the epitopes that do this reliably, then we can just use those in the vaccine.
+
+26:39.500 --> 26:46.500
+Now, what I need you to see here is how dangerous that is because.
+
+26:46.500 --> 26:50.500
+I'm not moving it. Oh, sorry.
+
+26:50.500 --> 27:07.500
+How dangerous that is. I guess I can stay over there. How dangerous that is because they aren't interested in whether the immune response that they are stimulating is functionally relevant to.
+
+27:07.500 --> 27:15.500
+Preventing the disease so much as they are interested in it being reliably able to activate the immune system.
+
+27:15.500 --> 27:22.500
+Now, why am I making this point? Because I'm starting to learn in my work during the day.
+
+27:22.500 --> 27:28.500
+What is in a lot of these vaccines that we're giving to children and.
+
+27:29.500 --> 27:36.500
+I'm afraid that a lot of people that watch my stream and a lot of people that I know in the adult world have no concept of.
+
+27:36.500 --> 27:39.500
+The strategies that are used.
+
+27:39.500 --> 27:42.500
+In the making of these vaccines.
+
+27:42.500 --> 27:46.500
+But I want you to imagine the possibility.
+
+27:46.500 --> 27:47.500
+That.
+
+27:47.500 --> 27:51.500
+You found out that disease a.
+
+27:51.500 --> 27:56.500
+Had a protein in it and that protein was really highly immunogenic.
+
+27:57.500 --> 28:01.500
+And you wanted to make a vaccine to.
+
+28:01.500 --> 28:05.500
+To a different virus.
+
+28:05.500 --> 28:06.500
+Okay.
+
+28:06.500 --> 28:13.500
+But you already have this protein from the other virus that that really reliably activates your immune system.
+
+28:13.500 --> 28:21.500
+So quite a few vaccines are actually a diphtheria toxin which we know a diphtheria protein.
+
+28:21.500 --> 28:24.500
+Which we know can activate the immune system really well.
+
+28:24.500 --> 28:29.500
+And then they just stick another piece of the protein of the new targeted.
+
+28:29.500 --> 28:31.500
+You know.
+
+28:31.500 --> 28:37.500
+The thing that they want you to develop antibodies to they stick into that toxin.
+
+28:37.500 --> 28:40.500
+And they call it a vaccine for the second.
+
+28:40.500 --> 28:47.500
+The second virus, but actually it's a diphtheria toxin protein.
+
+28:47.500 --> 28:52.500
+With some sequence derived from the secondary.
+
+28:52.500 --> 28:55.500
+Vaccine target.
+
+28:55.500 --> 29:02.500
+And what you might be really shocked by is how many how many vaccines are actually designed that way.
+
+29:02.500 --> 29:06.500
+They use an edge evented protein.
+
+29:06.500 --> 29:14.500
+A protein that also has some kind of chemical flag on it that makes it even more annoying or biologically alien.
+
+29:15.500 --> 29:22.500
+And they conjugate that to something that is related to the vaccine target.
+
+29:22.500 --> 29:28.500
+And if they get a reliable immune response because you know there's no real.
+
+29:28.500 --> 29:31.500
+Confirmation on whether or not the actual.
+
+29:31.500 --> 29:36.500
+Pathogen or the infection of the pathogen is prevented because that's not how they test these things.
+
+29:36.500 --> 29:39.500
+They test them for the correlate of immunity.
+
+29:39.500 --> 29:43.500
+Then they walk a very fine line here between.
+
+29:43.500 --> 30:04.500
+Identifying small sequences that are reliable activators of the immune system and small sequences that are reliable trainers of the immune system relative to a particular pathogen.
+
+30:04.500 --> 30:15.500
+And that becomes very very special because if you can add a small short amino acid sequence to another sequence.
+
+30:15.500 --> 30:23.500
+And pretend that that sequence and the immune response to it now is relevant to the thing you added it to.
+
+30:23.500 --> 30:27.500
+And call that a vaccine to the thing that you added it to.
+
+30:27.500 --> 30:35.500
+You can make products that that meet all the check all the boxes of your vaccine model.
+
+30:35.500 --> 30:38.500
+Does it produce antibodies? Yes, very robustly.
+
+30:38.500 --> 30:41.500
+Can you detect for him? Yeah, of course we can.
+
+30:41.500 --> 30:46.500
+You have a test already works.
+
+30:46.500 --> 30:48.500
+And so.
+
+30:48.500 --> 30:53.500
+You don't have to provide proof that it provides protection.
+
+30:53.500 --> 31:02.500
+And now you are giving children multiple injections of toxins conjugated to other sequences purported to be from.
+
+31:02.500 --> 31:10.500
+We're giving them protein toxins that are conjugated to other sequences that are from viruses or from.
+
+31:10.500 --> 31:14.500
+I guess, infective bacteria or whatever.
+
+31:14.500 --> 31:19.500
+And that's a vaccine for that thing that we add to the toxin.
+
+31:19.500 --> 31:24.500
+Because it's a vaccine it can be done anyway and they don't they don't have to find out.
+
+31:24.500 --> 31:29.500
+What what can go wrong there's there there and completely not liable at all.
+
+31:29.500 --> 31:32.500
+And they should be held to strict liability.
+
+31:32.500 --> 31:34.500
+But think about.
+
+31:34.500 --> 31:38.500
+Maybe I'm wasting too much time on this but think about how close it would be.
+
+31:38.500 --> 31:40.500
+If.
+
+31:40.500 --> 31:43.500
+If you're looking for.
+
+31:43.500 --> 31:48.500
+Here you go. I got one for you. I got an analogy. I'm the king of analogies.
+
+31:48.500 --> 31:53.500
+You're looking for you go to a basketball game and you're you tell your little kid.
+
+31:53.500 --> 31:56.500
+Okay, listen for the cheers.
+
+31:56.500 --> 32:00.500
+And whatever cheers you hear, we're going to write them down. We're going to keep track of them.
+
+32:00.500 --> 32:04.500
+And we're going to figure out which one is the one that gets the best reaction.
+
+32:04.500 --> 32:09.500
+And whichever one gets the best reaction is the one we're going to use. It's the most appropriate cheer.
+
+32:09.500 --> 32:12.500
+Because it's the one that gets the most reaction.
+
+32:12.500 --> 32:18.500
+So your little kids go all through the the basketball game the whole night the whole night they're keeping track and when you come back.
+
+32:18.500 --> 32:23.500
+They have a list and the list that they decide is is that.
+
+32:23.500 --> 32:33.500
+The the the cheer that got the most reaction and they all agree because they got the most, you know, whatever data from the all these people.
+
+32:34.500 --> 32:46.500
+Was the one the ref beats his wife the ref beats his wife every time they the college cheer that they all say when the ref makes a bad call.
+
+32:46.500 --> 32:49.500
+And that's the one.
+
+32:49.500 --> 32:53.500
+Cheer that everybody does together the most.
+
+32:53.500 --> 33:01.500
+And so that is that the most appropriate cheer or is it just the one that's guaranteed to get the most people to react to it in the crowd.
+
+33:02.500 --> 33:18.500
+And so if you look through using bio informatics or immuno informatics through a protein and you find that this eight or nine or 10 protein or 10 amino acid sequence seems to really piss off T cells.
+
+33:18.500 --> 33:25.500
+Are you finding the key to a vaccine for for pertussis.
+
+33:26.500 --> 33:38.500
+Or are you finding a way to annoy the immune system very, very well and and and repeatedly.
+
+33:38.500 --> 33:40.500
+And so.
+
+33:40.500 --> 33:47.500
+The assumption that's made on this track of discovery is a very big one.
+
+33:48.500 --> 34:08.500
+And I, I want you to understand that from the perspective of damage versus immune activation, because it is possible that there are a few quirky protein sequences that for whatever reason shouldn't or don't very often exist.
+
+34:08.500 --> 34:19.500
+But when they do exist there, especially, you know, hard for some immune systems to ignore.
+
+34:19.500 --> 34:35.500
+It goes from a fine line between being a useful adjuvant, which is what they're really looking for here they're not looking for for an epitope, which is good at making for a vaccine for one thing they're looking for epitopes which activate T cells.
+
+34:38.500 --> 34:49.500
+And they're saying it right out loud here, you know, immuno immunom derived vaccines that that's just saying that we can activate the immune system, make it do things.
+
+34:49.500 --> 34:53.500
+And so when it does things we're in control of it.
+
+34:53.500 --> 34:58.500
+And that's not how this works, but this is the motivation. This is what they're doing.
+
+34:58.500 --> 35:07.500
+This is what they think they can do. This is what a lot of them have told each other they're doing. That's why Peter Cullis said that when the results came back.
+
+35:07.500 --> 35:11.500
+They celebrated just like, like Borla did.
+
+35:11.500 --> 35:21.500
+Oh, we have a vaccine. We have a vaccine.
+
+35:21.500 --> 35:41.500
+And so we've been pushing hard on this idea that the intellectual dark web is really asserted at the beginning of the pandemic and played a role throughout to kind of slow roll this scooby do this argument or this exposure of gain of function research and the likely that this was a lab leak.
+
+35:41.500 --> 35:53.500
+And whose fault is it and I was ahead of saying all of that and were the most important voices and without our voices, we would all be enslaved.
+
+35:53.500 --> 36:10.500
+That's what we're supposed to believe, even though Jordan Peterson and Brett Weinstein and all these people were totally on narrative until at least at least June of 2021 one and a half years on narrative.
+
+36:11.500 --> 36:24.500
+And so, you know, as you dig into these networks, you find out that a lot of the people that you like or listen to are all just, you know, it's not a bunch of cool people hanging out together. This is an organized performance.
+
+36:24.500 --> 36:34.500
+That's why guests go from one show to the next show to the next show message message message message.
+
+36:35.500 --> 36:43.500
+And I'm sure that that these guys are soon going to make their rounds right if they don't make their rounds it will because.
+
+36:43.500 --> 36:45.500
+Yeah.
+
+36:45.500 --> 36:47.500
+I don't know.
+
+36:47.500 --> 36:58.500
+So they also tried to talk about the idea that it's hilarious to think that they're part of the plan and they feel really silly and that people think that it's, you know, some big conspiracy theory between Peter Teal and.
+
+36:59.500 --> 37:13.500
+And then he even made made very light of the idea that somehow he was implicated in the plot to kill Jeff K or something like that and has absolutely nothing to do with that, of course, it has to do with.
+
+37:13.500 --> 37:25.500
+The intellectual property of of antibodies, intellectual property space that the FDA governs the kinds of powers that the FDA has and understanding how they they govern.
+
+37:26.500 --> 37:30.500
+You know, all of these drugs and pharmaceuticals in America.
+
+37:30.500 --> 37:33.500
+Well, I was on the board of my kids school during COVID.
+
+37:33.500 --> 37:37.500
+I wanted a harsher lockdown policy and in retrospect, I was wrong.
+
+37:37.500 --> 37:43.500
+The damage to kids of keeping them out of school longer was greater than the risk.
+
+37:43.500 --> 37:45.500
+But here's the bottom line.
+
+37:45.500 --> 37:48.500
+Myself are great people to CDC.
+
+37:48.500 --> 37:50.500
+I'd like to think the governor.
+
+37:50.500 --> 37:54.500
+We were all operating with imperfect information and we were doing our best.
+
+37:55.500 --> 37:56.500
+It's.
+
+37:59.500 --> 38:02.500
+But let's learn from that.
+
+38:02.500 --> 38:04.500
+Let's learn from that.
+
+38:04.500 --> 38:05.500
+Let's learn from that.
+
+38:05.500 --> 38:06.500
+Let's hold each other accountable.
+
+38:06.500 --> 38:10.500
+But let's bring a little bit of grace and forgiveness in the shit show that was.
+
+38:13.500 --> 38:18.500
+And I can assure you that this is going to be the story that they're going to push going forward.
+
+38:19.500 --> 38:24.500
+The people, the people clapping in the audience were probably a lot of them.
+
+38:24.500 --> 38:33.500
+The same people that were agreeing with, you know, you shouldn't be allowed back to college and you people are endangering everybody and all this other garbage.
+
+38:33.500 --> 38:40.500
+And it is, it is unfortunate that that some of this is going to be at your Thanksgiving dinner table.
+
+38:40.500 --> 38:47.500
+It's unfortunate that some of us are going to have to deal with, with this, you know, mealy mouth, sorry kind of thing.
+
+38:49.500 --> 38:51.500
+When they should be ashamed of themselves.
+
+38:52.500 --> 38:58.500
+But the TV and skillful TV watching allows them to sustain this cognitive dissonance where.
+
+38:59.500 --> 39:04.500
+Where they know they were 100% wrong, but the TV doesn't say that I was 100% wrong.
+
+39:04.500 --> 39:06.500
+The TV forgives me.
+
+39:08.500 --> 39:17.500
+And that's why this Scooby Doo is still rolling on and it's really frustrating because, you know, the author of this book right here.
+
+39:17.500 --> 39:22.500
+Was just on a TV show like a day ago telling the story and selling his book.
+
+39:24.500 --> 39:31.500
+And in another month or a month and a half, I think Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is going to be on program selling this book.
+
+39:33.500 --> 39:42.500
+Books about the laboratory leak of an RNA with properties that RNA has never had before.
+
+39:42.500 --> 39:55.500
+The high fidelity spread of like no molecule ever seen in the history of modern biology.
+
+39:56.500 --> 40:05.500
+And we were right ready poised to track it with a fidelity like we've never tracked a molecule before.
+
+40:06.500 --> 40:08.500
+It's really quite extraordinary.
+
+40:09.500 --> 40:12.500
+And it would be interesting to hear.
+
+40:13.500 --> 40:31.500
+One of my college's friends trying to do a calculation about how much RNA has been made since the start of the pandemic when we had no SARS-CoV-2 tell when we spilled it in the in the wet market and then it went went replicating all around the world there must be like we must have gone from.
+
+40:32.500 --> 40:39.500
+Like grams in that in that raccoon dog to you know tons and tons of it by now it's so cool.
+
+40:44.500 --> 41:00.500
+So this is important to understand how this was already predicted right we were talking about this year and a half ago or two years ago that they're going to start to push for push for everybody not to be able to be anonymous on the Internet anymore.
+
+41:01.500 --> 41:04.500
+Some of it's going to be unfortunately to protect our children.
+
+41:05.500 --> 41:30.500
+They might even hurt some kids or put somebody in front of Congress that says that their kids were hurt or kidnapped by somebody who was interacting with them anonymously on the Internet and she's begging Congress to help her by requiring people who use certain websites like to have digital ID or somebody's going to lose their bank account and it's because they lost their ID so they want digital ID for that.
+
+41:32.500 --> 41:49.500
+There's going to be something and then the EU is going to put it in place for travel and for flying and then after that you're going to pretty much have to do it anyway and then oh surprise there's already an RFID chip in your passport.
+
+41:49.500 --> 41:57.500
+If you have a passport you already have all the necessary equipment for a digital ID all you got to do is let them load the data onto it.
+
+41:58.500 --> 42:08.500
+If you have a driver's license in Florida or a real ID driver's license anywhere else in the United States you already have the hardware in your pocket for a digital ID.
+
+42:10.500 --> 42:14.500
+It's not like you need four or five gigabytes of storage to have a digital ID.
+
+42:15.500 --> 42:17.500
+It's all in the cloud baby.
+
+42:17.500 --> 42:41.500
+So I just wanted to play this one because this is an example of how the how the skilled TV watchers on the market zoonosis side the Batcave virus side have been led to believe that the lab leak story is something of a misinformation
+
+42:42.500 --> 43:08.500
+campaign and it's not possible that the zoonosis market theory is a elaborate campaign of messaging it's not it's only possible that obviously the lab leak is a
+
+43:08.500 --> 43:14.500
+misinformation media campaign. Now what's interesting about this is this is implied this was implied very early.
+
+43:16.500 --> 43:32.500
+And so this is part of the way that they baited people into trying to figure out what was really going on and then you know you'd follow Lehman Yann for a while and then this video came out and people were like oh man you were following Lehman Yann she's totally fake dude check it out.
+
+43:33.500 --> 43:42.500
+So I just wanted to show you very quickly how this information and botnet works work together to create bus.
+
+43:43.500 --> 43:57.500
+What you see here is Dr. Lehman Yann the bio weapon whistleblower and as you can see when you scroll down here but just looking her name there are hundreds of bots that are identical user profile user message.
+
+43:58.500 --> 44:15.500
+Retreat her posts all just to increase the disinformation that the main account is spreading so you are very odd very inauthentic this is not real but it was very effective in spreading the myth in 2020.
+
+44:18.500 --> 44:19.500
+So it's an interesting.
+
+44:20.500 --> 44:22.500
+So I just wanted to show you.
+
+44:24.500 --> 44:26.500
+It's an interesting way to think about.
+
+44:27.500 --> 44:33.500
+How multi layered this illusion I apologize illusion of consensus is.
+
+44:34.500 --> 44:41.500
+Because they've even fooled us in the ways that we have been brought to doubt certain parts of the story so that.
+
+44:42.500 --> 44:47.500
+Other parts of the story seem to then fit more logically if we start to doubt this part of that part.
+
+44:48.500 --> 45:00.500
+And what's really crazy is that most likely a lot of these things were were what is the right they were simulated or they were gained so that the story is.
+
+45:01.500 --> 45:09.500
+Is being steered in a way either actively or or pre ordained in a way so that it's going to come together in a certain.
+
+45:10.500 --> 45:11.500
+Next step.
+
+45:12.500 --> 45:24.500
+And so in order for us to really succeed here what we need to do is figure out what those next steps are and try to avoid them try to try to hamper their progress toward those goals and so.
+
+45:25.500 --> 45:28.500
+Definitely digital ideas one of those things definitely.
+
+45:29.500 --> 45:39.500
+I presume central bank digital currency is one of those things and we need we need to pay more attention to this.
+
+45:41.500 --> 45:43.500
+And in some way or another.
+
+45:44.500 --> 45:49.500
+Start to organize on a more grassroots level make a network of people which.
+
+45:50.500 --> 45:58.500
+By email or or even lower tech are in touch with one another in contact with one another locally.
+
+45:59.500 --> 46:04.500
+We've got a lot of work to do to break this illusion of consensus in a way that's going to really matter.
+
+46:05.500 --> 46:13.500
+And then the other issue as as we are with the virus is communication and disinformation and this is such a complex issue.
+
+46:14.500 --> 46:17.500
+There are many media people here who exactly know what I'm speaking about.
+
+46:18.500 --> 46:22.500
+This is really the intervention in the beginning of a pandemic.
+
+46:23.500 --> 46:28.500
+So there are two interventions that are really efficient before we have a drug or vaccine.
+
+46:29.500 --> 46:32.500
+This is diagnostic testing and then it's political decision making.
+
+46:33.500 --> 46:40.500
+And once this political decision making is influenced and contorted by disinformation and propaganda we are lost.
+
+46:41.500 --> 46:46.500
+And there are roles that are not being fulfilled by the media themselves.
+
+46:47.500 --> 46:56.500
+They really have to look in the mirror and there is another role that some sometimes ignored a little bit which is the role of science itself.
+
+46:57.500 --> 47:05.500
+So we shouldn't have anybody who has some academic degree talking about the heart of the issue in the middle of a pandemic.
+
+47:06.500 --> 47:22.500
+We have to address the institutions of science to make some selection to set up panels of experts who are really experts and who wouldn't push into the media but who are somehow qualified to summarize the state of knowledge.
+
+47:23.500 --> 47:26.500
+And this can only happen via the institutions of science.
+
+47:27.500 --> 47:31.500
+These institutions have to offer this function to society.
+
+47:32.500 --> 47:39.500
+And these institutions of science they are actually consisting of scientists of top scientists.
+
+47:40.500 --> 47:49.500
+And it's really about being a little bit less opportunistic as a scientist being a little bit more of service to society.
+
+47:50.500 --> 47:51.500
+That's my point.
+
+47:52.500 --> 47:53.500
+Wow.
+
+47:55.500 --> 48:03.500
+I mean if you think about this is the guy who got his PCR protocol reviewed in less than 24 hours.
+
+48:04.500 --> 48:08.500
+This is a guy whose PhD document apparently isn't even available anymore.
+
+48:09.500 --> 48:17.500
+And that's actually very curious because in the Netherlands and in Germany it's often very customary for you to publish your thesis.
+
+48:18.500 --> 48:24.500
+And your dissertation so what that means is yes you're going to submit something to the university but.
+
+48:33.500 --> 48:40.500
+You would also make like a real nice printed glossy copy of it and distribute that to your family and friends.
+
+48:41.500 --> 48:46.500
+And so you have this boxes and boxes of books after your thesis is done.
+
+48:47.500 --> 48:58.500
+And you usually give quite a few of them to the library because if someone requests them at least for the first few years they like to be able to send them out because you made them right you spent your own money.
+
+48:59.500 --> 49:04.500
+So in the Netherlands some people make you know I can make hundreds of copies of their dissertation with a nice.
+
+49:07.500 --> 49:10.500
+I think it's over on the other I can show you mine it's not impressive but.
+
+49:11.500 --> 49:19.500
+It is an example of how this is done so I think it might be the same in Germany so it's very strange that nobody can find a copy of it.
+
+49:20.500 --> 49:26.500
+Including the library that's supposedly supposed to hold it which is definitely not really right.
+
+49:27.500 --> 49:36.500
+Anyway this guy lecturing people about you know not letting it be your ego and stuff like that remember he was around for the first one.
+
+49:37.500 --> 49:41.500
+He was around for the first stars he was around for the testing for the first stars.
+
+49:42.500 --> 49:51.500
+He has been a toady for these guys for a very long time and so it's pretty rich that in October of 2023.
+
+49:53.500 --> 50:01.500
+He's talking about making sure that we shut other people up and that the university select who we listen to during the first stages of such an emergency like this.
+
+50:02.500 --> 50:09.500
+It's absolutely absurd that anybody would be allowed to say something like that and get an applause for it but that's the state of our world.
+
+50:11.500 --> 50:12.500
+There are a lot of sleepers.
+
+50:13.500 --> 50:17.500
+There are a lot of people who cannot be made to see even when you show it to them.
+
+50:18.500 --> 50:28.500
+And so to a certain extent unfortunately it may be time for us to try and make a more formal arrangements to just have a parallel system.
+
+50:28.500 --> 50:46.500
+Of communication, of social media you know no offense to them but if they want our help sorting out the false narratives on Fox and MSNBC well no thanks.
+
+50:49.500 --> 50:50.500
+That's kind of how I feel.
+
+50:51.500 --> 50:57.500
+So we mentioned that it's just a little chocolate because it coats my throat.
+
+50:58.500 --> 50:59.500
+That's my excuse.
+
+51:00.500 --> 51:04.500
+The show must go on but everybody keeps ignoring Denny Rancor.
+
+51:05.500 --> 51:17.500
+I noticed that actually Matthew Crawford was on the defender in depth podcast this morning and he did a presentation about all cause mortality and some other stuff.
+
+51:18.500 --> 51:19.500
+I haven't watched it yet.
+
+51:20.500 --> 51:23.500
+I will watch it but I know they didn't mention Denny.
+
+51:24.500 --> 51:26.500
+I know that Matt hasn't really written about Denny yet.
+
+51:28.500 --> 51:33.500
+And I find it very strange that these people are all ignoring Denny Rancor but you know maybe Denny's a Looney tune.
+
+51:34.500 --> 51:39.500
+I mean he is from Canada you know so I mean he's probably a little Looney.
+
+51:40.500 --> 51:41.500
+I don't know.
+
+51:42.500 --> 51:48.500
+I don't know what to say other than I really think that this diagram really sums up what's going on right now.
+
+51:49.500 --> 52:03.500
+Wittingly or unwittingly most of the people that purport to be dissidents to purport to be the people that have saved us from enslavement that saved us from mandates that saved us from you know real long term harm.
+
+52:04.500 --> 52:16.500
+Have basically misled the young in the world all around the world to believe that the United States was involved in this novel virus pandemic.
+
+52:17.500 --> 52:18.500
+The millions of people died from.
+
+52:19.500 --> 52:26.500
+The millions more were saved by the RNA even though it was rushed and this was probably from gain of function.
+
+52:27.500 --> 52:37.500
+And it's proof that gain of function is frickin dangerous and the virus will definitely come again if we don't put strict regulations on this stuff.
+
+52:40.500 --> 52:47.500
+But again even if that's not true it's definitely what people perceive to be true right now.
+
+52:48.500 --> 52:52.500
+And so that's why we keep talking to these guys.
+
+52:53.500 --> 52:59.500
+That's why this program the other day was so important and I really like you to check it out if you haven't checked it out.
+
+53:00.500 --> 53:02.500
+Because on this program.
+
+53:04.500 --> 53:16.500
+Dixon in the upper right corner is is really pushing back on the idea that a lot of these ecological principles and paradigms and concepts are applicable to RNA or DNA virus.
+
+53:18.500 --> 53:27.500
+And it's extraordinary to watch the hardcore virologist Vincent Vinny and the other guy down here Alan.
+
+53:28.500 --> 53:41.500
+Just almost laugh at Dixon's objections like come on man what are you saying that not every biological concept applies to viruses G whiz man I mean sorry very sensitive huh.
+
+53:42.500 --> 53:54.500
+And it should not be taken lightly how important it is that at some point Vincent Rancin yellow said well let's just let's just redefine the word ecosystem.
+
+53:55.500 --> 53:58.500
+Let's redefine the word ecology let's redefine the word niche.
+
+53:59.500 --> 54:09.500
+Let's redefine the word infection let's redefine the word replication let's redefine the word isolation let's redefine the word purify.
+
+54:09.500 --> 54:20.500
+Let's redefine these words so that words that apply in other biological context can also be applied to viruses even if we're not applying in the same way.
+
+54:22.500 --> 54:33.500
+And all we got to do is write a few papers about the pandemic potential found in caves and voila the pandemic potential is in caves it's that simple.
+
+54:34.500 --> 54:42.500
+That simple we got to make myself tiny if we're going to watch something here let me see if this is it.
+
+54:45.500 --> 54:58.500
+And so yes these you know you've seen these slides you know what I'm saying the illusion of consensus is this worst case scenario that was so important for the intellectual dark web and these people to lay down this worst case scenario that holy crap.
+
+54:59.500 --> 55:12.500
+Maybe maybe a bio weapon could kill like a billion people and you know who I'm talking about and it wasn't just one person saying this.
+
+55:13.500 --> 55:23.500
+And it wasn't one person implying it just by calling it a bio weapon you're implying that just by calling it an ethnic bio weapon you're implying that just by calling it.
+
+55:24.500 --> 55:31.500
+A bio weapon you're implying the worst case scenario is much worse than a flu.
+
+55:33.500 --> 55:38.500
+And there was a concerted effort to lay this down as a consensus.
+
+55:43.500 --> 55:45.500
+What are we on here my.
+
+55:46.500 --> 55:57.500
+And so this consensus right is the is the who declared a pandemic and everybody said yep there's a consensus that that's correct whatever the who says we do.
+
+55:57.500 --> 56:03.500
+And so we guess we can use this PCR yep everybody agrees everybody agrees that this PCR is a great way to follow this thing.
+
+56:04.500 --> 56:13.500
+Holy cow everybody agrees that the same virus was found in like four different places man oh man everybody agrees that everybody's dying from the same thing must be a pandemic.
+
+56:14.500 --> 56:15.500
+Activate the plan.
+
+56:17.500 --> 56:25.500
+Sir but the plan is like a five year plan activate the plan but once we activate the plan sir we can't really to activate the plan.
+
+56:29.500 --> 56:35.500
+Now the only question you have to ask yourself is is would there be enough money and power at stake for that plan to be activated.
+
+56:36.500 --> 56:45.500
+In a controlled way or is it really an emergency that we just planned for and now we're responding to it.
+
+56:46.500 --> 56:48.500
+Or can you imagine a scenario.
+
+56:51.500 --> 57:00.500
+Where there would be enough money and power at stake that you don't wait for mother nature to give you a bad cave zoonosis pandemic.
+
+57:01.500 --> 57:02.500
+Can you create one.
+
+57:06.500 --> 57:08.500
+Because I believe that's what's happened.
+
+57:09.500 --> 57:10.500
+What's happened.
+
+57:11.500 --> 57:17.500
+And there's lots of different ways that it could have happened from from one end of the spectrum it could be an incredible lie.
+
+57:18.500 --> 57:20.500
+About a conflated background signal.
+
+57:22.500 --> 57:26.500
+On the other end of the spectrum it could be a a widespread.
+
+57:27.500 --> 57:32.500
+Deployment of a transfection agent an infectious clone RNA.
+
+57:33.500 --> 57:37.500
+Using maybe a wide variety of dispersion and carrying mechanisms.
+
+57:38.500 --> 57:40.500
+From loaded vapes.
+
+57:41.500 --> 57:45.500
+To aerosolized or even water based.
+
+57:46.500 --> 57:49.500
+Planting in the sewers just for testing there.
+
+57:50.500 --> 57:53.500
+And created this illusion of a molecular signal that.
+
+57:54.500 --> 58:00.500
+Were led to believe wasn't there before 2020 but you know unfortunately we weren't testing anything for anything ever then.
+
+58:02.500 --> 58:08.500
+Best best we can do is go back to 2019 and there seems to be some of the same signals there so maybe it was earlier.
+
+58:13.500 --> 58:16.500
+But if there was enough money and enough power at stake.
+
+58:17.500 --> 58:25.500
+Can you imagine a scenario where they wouldn't have waited for mother nature to give us a bat cave zoneosis and they would have created it on their own.
+
+58:26.500 --> 58:27.500
+A theater.
+
+58:28.500 --> 58:30.500
+A theater with real molecular biology.
+
+58:32.500 --> 58:36.500
+In order to make everybody willingly maybe even beg.
+
+58:37.500 --> 58:44.500
+To turn in their individual sovereignty for a medical ID that made them feel comfortable traveling on a plane again.
+
+58:47.500 --> 58:52.500
+A digital currency that made them feel safe using their money in the street again.
+
+58:56.500 --> 59:01.500
+That's what this is about why didn't that play what was that why isn't that playing.
+
+59:03.500 --> 59:04.500
+That should play.
+
+59:05.500 --> 59:09.500
+It says cannot play media I don't understand why that is hold on let me escape and come out.
+
+59:10.500 --> 59:11.500
+Let's start again.
+
+59:12.500 --> 59:16.500
+I need to clear that thing or what.
+
+59:18.500 --> 59:19.500
+Hey there it goes.
+
+59:20.500 --> 59:23.500
+That's what this new world order is that's why I like this symbol so much.
+
+59:24.500 --> 59:38.500
+They want you to believe that we are in a new age where the threat to public health represented by gain of function viruses and by zoonotic viruses because of population and climate change.
+
+59:39.500 --> 59:50.500
+Requires us to fundamentally reorganize how our children think about themselves about their sovereignty about their responsibility of their own bodies and the bodies of their children.
+
+59:51.500 --> 01:00:02.500
+And also what obligations they have to society because of this perceived threat that originates in bat caves mostly.
+
+01:00:03.500 --> 01:00:16.500
+And that's what this illusion of consensus about a novel virus is all about all the college kids are sure that millions of people were died from the virus and all the college kids are sure that it was probably a lab leak.
+
+01:00:17.500 --> 01:00:36.500
+And that means we've misled the arm and the way that they did it was not doing the math so these are all being need to be subtracted from the excess deaths before you can understand what's left for the mystery virus.
+
+01:00:37.500 --> 01:00:42.500
+And unfortunately if you do that math correctly there's really nothing left for the mystery virus to have done.
+
+01:00:43.500 --> 01:00:46.500
+Because the protocols were murdered.
+
+01:00:47.500 --> 01:00:54.500
+The virus didn't really kill anybody because PCR fraud lateral test flow lateral flow test fraud.
+
+01:00:54.500 --> 01:01:09.500
+The variants and sequences and all the stories they've told about those they're complete abject ignoring the ubiquitous nature of infectious clones in the coronavirus and RNA virus literature in general.
+
+01:01:10.500 --> 01:01:19.500
+And then we never talk about any of these other things to do with our potential mechanistic immunity to these RNA signals.
+
+01:01:20.500 --> 01:01:23.500
+Nothing to do with how they might overlap with others of them.
+
+01:01:24.500 --> 01:01:36.500
+And so you can have this illusion of consensus if as long as nobody questions the novel virus, nobody questions that millions of people died, nobody questions gain a function being real and that the virus will come again.
+
+01:01:36.500 --> 01:01:39.500
+You can even mention protocols were murdering the background.
+
+01:01:40.500 --> 01:01:41.500
+It's okay.
+
+01:01:42.500 --> 01:01:44.500
+Sometimes they say it every once in a while.
+
+01:01:46.500 --> 01:01:47.500
+Not very often.
+
+01:01:48.500 --> 01:01:51.500
+And certainly not to the state where they've done the math.
+
+01:01:53.500 --> 01:01:56.500
+They preserve the faith to the novel virus.
+
+01:01:56.500 --> 01:01:58.500
+That's mainly what they do.
+
+01:01:59.500 --> 01:02:07.500
+And that's mainly what I think we're going to find a complete story of right where they want us to be.
+
+01:02:08.500 --> 01:02:20.500
+And now you got to imagine that this guy is the guy who got in front of the Senate or in front of the house or wherever he is and was yelling at Tony Fauci and Tony Fauci turned red and fired back.
+
+01:02:20.500 --> 01:02:32.500
+And depending on whether you had a Fox editor edit it or a CNN editor edit it, it could be twisted into wow Tony Fauci really took him to school.
+
+01:02:33.500 --> 01:02:37.500
+Or man, Rand Paul really freaking dunked on Fauci.
+
+01:02:38.500 --> 01:02:46.500
+And it was extraordinary because both clips were being shared as the one side shredding the other side.
+
+01:02:47.500 --> 01:02:59.500
+Both sides had memes with the little graphic sunglasses and cigar out of his mouth like cat.
+
+01:03:00.500 --> 01:03:11.500
+I mean, it's actually kind of a joke that over these past three years it's still those two characters pretending to argue with each other.
+
+01:03:12.500 --> 01:03:16.500
+It's so definitely a Scooby-Doo performance. It's hard.
+
+01:03:17.500 --> 01:03:20.500
+I almost want to celebrate it.
+
+01:03:21.500 --> 01:03:22.500
+So let's watch it.
+
+01:03:24.500 --> 01:03:25.500
+Hey, where'd it go?
+
+01:03:26.500 --> 01:03:27.500
+What the heck?
+
+01:03:28.500 --> 01:03:29.500
+Oh, there it is.
+
+01:03:30.500 --> 01:03:34.500
+I got to move my head for a second and put this back here.
+
+01:03:34.500 --> 01:03:35.500
+Ah.
+
+01:03:40.500 --> 01:03:41.500
+Put this back here.
+
+01:03:43.500 --> 01:03:44.500
+Here we go.
+
+01:03:44.500 --> 01:03:46.500
+Make sure you wear a mask.
+
+01:03:46.500 --> 01:03:49.500
+Remember how some government officials handled the pandemic?
+
+01:03:49.500 --> 01:03:58.500
+One of the ways you could do it if you would like to is put a cloth mask over the so-called experts and the media made lots of mistakes.
+
+01:03:58.500 --> 01:04:02.500
+Hollywood Beach shutting down the city is closing the beach and the broadway.
+
+01:04:02.500 --> 01:04:06.500
+An expert told us no way COVID leaked from a laugh.
+
+01:04:06.500 --> 01:04:09.500
+We've all heard the conspiracy theories at the lab leak.
+
+01:04:09.500 --> 01:04:14.500
+One rare politician who pushed back against the experts was Senator Rand Paul.
+
+01:04:14.500 --> 01:04:18.500
+He claimed our government-funded research might have created COVID.
+
+01:04:18.500 --> 01:04:22.500
+NIH money went to the Wuhan Virology Institute.
+
+01:04:22.500 --> 01:04:25.500
+Now it turns out Rand Paul was right.
+
+01:04:25.500 --> 01:04:33.500
+His new book, Deception, The Great COVID Coverup reveals details about the origins of COVID and the government's deceit.
+
+01:04:33.500 --> 01:04:36.500
+Here's my full interview with Senator Paul.
+
+01:04:36.500 --> 01:04:43.500
+One of the things you point out is that government often made mistakes that made the COVID experience worse.
+
+01:04:43.500 --> 01:04:50.500
+Yeah, I think there's been one set of truths in private and another set of truths for the whole people who aren't smart enough to make their decision.
+
+01:04:51.500 --> 01:04:56.500
+Oh, come on, don't fool with me here.
+
+01:04:56.500 --> 01:04:59.500
+What the hell?
+
+01:05:06.500 --> 01:05:09.500
+I tried to find an old video of Amy Goodman and Meryl Nast.
+
+01:05:09.500 --> 01:05:11.500
+I couldn't find it.
+
+01:05:11.500 --> 01:05:13.500
+I'll go back again.
+
+01:05:13.500 --> 01:05:15.500
+N95 masks may work.
+
+01:05:16.500 --> 01:05:19.500
+Even the Cochrane analysis looks at the N95 and found they didn't work very well.
+
+01:05:19.500 --> 01:05:21.500
+And there's a couple reasons for this.
+
+01:05:21.500 --> 01:05:23.500
+And I would say this with a caveat.
+
+01:05:23.500 --> 01:05:27.500
+If you're 75 years old and your spouse is sick with COVID the first time around when it was very deadly,
+
+01:05:27.500 --> 01:05:33.500
+I would have suggested, yes, where gloves in a mask when you go in to take them food, come out, throw them away,
+
+01:05:33.500 --> 01:05:35.500
+and have a brand new pair every time you go in.
+
+01:05:35.500 --> 01:05:36.500
+That's what the doctors are going to do.
+
+01:05:36.500 --> 01:05:39.500
+It's not full food, but it might work to some extent.
+
+01:05:39.500 --> 01:05:42.500
+They do know that the N95 mask, which do have small pores,
+
+01:05:42.500 --> 01:05:44.500
+after you wear them for three or four hours.
+
+01:05:44.500 --> 01:05:50.500
+So we're just into this interview and you can already see that we're not at all going to question that there was a novel virus.
+
+01:05:50.500 --> 01:05:55.500
+We're not going to question that it might help a little bit.
+
+01:05:55.500 --> 01:05:58.500
+Maybe wearing gloves would be a good idea.
+
+01:05:58.500 --> 01:06:00.500
+Throw them away right away afterward.
+
+01:06:00.500 --> 01:06:01.500
+I mean, come on.
+
+01:06:01.500 --> 01:06:03.500
+Are you kidding?
+
+01:06:03.500 --> 01:06:09.500
+We aren't even in ten seconds and we're already reciting the faith.
+
+01:06:09.500 --> 01:06:11.500
+We're going to go right down the list now.
+
+01:06:11.500 --> 01:06:14.500
+We're going to make sure we say that a lot of people died.
+
+01:06:14.500 --> 01:06:16.500
+We're going to make sure we saved a lot of people.
+
+01:06:16.500 --> 01:06:23.500
+We're going to make sure that gain of function is real and we're going to make sure that the advice is not going to come again unless we are dumb.
+
+01:06:23.500 --> 01:06:28.500
+We're going to go right down the faith list in the next 34 minutes.
+
+01:06:28.500 --> 01:06:30.500
+I might have to speed this up.
+
+01:06:30.500 --> 01:06:32.500
+Holy buckets.
+
+01:06:32.500 --> 01:06:34.500
+That's impressive.
+
+01:06:34.500 --> 01:06:35.500
+Can you tell?
+
+01:06:35.500 --> 01:06:37.500
+I haven't watched this really yet.
+
+01:06:37.500 --> 01:06:42.500
+The mixture of what you exhale, your exhaled air gets rid of the electrostatic charge and they don't filter as well.
+
+01:06:42.500 --> 01:06:43.500
+They really need this electrostatic charge.
+
+01:06:43.500 --> 01:06:45.500
+There's a lot of reasons they don't work as well.
+
+01:06:45.500 --> 01:06:47.500
+But they also know that they're so tight that everybody's fidgeting with them.
+
+01:06:47.500 --> 01:06:50.500
+So you and I shake hands and I was like, my damn mask is pressing on my face and I do this.
+
+01:06:50.500 --> 01:06:52.500
+So really, I'm just probably bringing things actually to my face.
+
+01:06:52.500 --> 01:06:55.500
+But there's nothing wrong with people trying, but I think what we did was the opposite.
+
+01:06:55.500 --> 01:06:58.500
+So Anthony Fauci wears a Washington National cloth, a piece of cut up shirt on his face.
+
+01:06:58.500 --> 01:07:00.500
+That's teaching you the wrong thing.
+
+01:07:00.500 --> 01:07:06.500
+So if you are at risk, an elderly person or an overweight person and you're taking care of a family member, if you wear a cloth mask in there, you're actually being told the wrong thing to do.
+
+01:07:06.500 --> 01:07:08.500
+You're being told that I'll be safe and you're encouraging bad behavior.
+
+01:07:08.500 --> 01:07:09.500
+So it's the opposite of public health.
+
+01:07:09.500 --> 01:07:12.500
+Anthony Fauci was actually telling people to do things that would put their life at risk.
+
+01:07:12.500 --> 01:07:13.500
+And there's a picture of him wearing a cloth mask?
+
+01:07:13.500 --> 01:07:14.500
+Two, three cloth masks.
+
+01:07:14.500 --> 01:07:15.500
+He showed up in one committee hearing.
+
+01:07:15.500 --> 01:07:16.500
+It's not a vaccine and you're wearing two masks.
+
+01:07:16.500 --> 01:07:17.500
+Isn't that theater?
+
+01:07:17.500 --> 01:07:18.500
+No, he would go again with the theater.
+
+01:07:18.500 --> 01:07:19.500
+He got all bent out of shape.
+
+01:07:19.500 --> 01:07:21.500
+But presumably three protects more than one.
+
+01:07:21.500 --> 01:07:22.500
+Maybe, but maybe not at all.
+
+01:07:22.500 --> 01:07:25.500
+You know, the other thing is is most of the masks don't work if there's air going outside of the mask.
+
+01:07:25.500 --> 01:07:27.500
+So you have to have a perfect seal on your face.
+
+01:07:27.500 --> 01:07:28.500
+And a beer isn't so.
+
+01:07:28.500 --> 01:07:30.500
+And then the question is, and this is the whole problem of public advice.
+
+01:07:30.500 --> 01:07:34.500
+This disease, not for the first time, but probably more so than almost any disease in recent history,
+
+01:07:34.500 --> 01:07:35.500
+had a real difference between ages.
+
+01:07:35.500 --> 01:07:37.500
+What you should tell children is wear nothing, go to school.
+
+01:07:37.500 --> 01:07:38.500
+It's less than getting the chicken box.
+
+01:07:38.500 --> 01:07:39.500
+It really was.
+
+01:07:39.500 --> 01:07:40.500
+For the elderly, you should say take precautions.
+
+01:07:40.500 --> 01:07:41.500
+Maybe avoid crowds.
+
+01:07:41.500 --> 01:07:42.500
+Maybe do this.
+
+01:07:42.500 --> 01:07:43.500
+And the advice was different, but they just made everything the same.
+
+01:07:43.500 --> 01:07:44.500
+It's the same with the vaccine.
+
+01:07:44.500 --> 01:07:45.500
+Everybody take the same per car.
+
+01:07:45.500 --> 01:07:46.500
+But that's government medicine.
+
+01:07:46.500 --> 01:07:47.500
+That's a centralization of control.
+
+01:07:47.500 --> 01:07:52.500
+And this is why I say that Dr. Fauci would be less of a menace if he were a fan.
+
+01:07:52.500 --> 01:07:59.500
+I will note that actually this position sounds most parallel to the position.
+
+01:07:59.500 --> 01:08:05.500
+Of the Great Barrington Declaration.
+
+01:08:05.500 --> 01:08:17.500
+Now, the reason why I think it's interesting that it's similar to the Great Barrington Declaration is because I do think we're going to have the opportunity to talk one on one with Jay Bhattacharya on Monday.
+
+01:08:17.500 --> 01:08:23.500
+And so I won't make any promises yet, but I do think that it has been scheduled now, finally.
+
+01:08:24.500 --> 01:08:35.500
+And so I'm trying to get together a succinct set of questions that I want to ask Jay and discuss with him in the hour that we can talk.
+
+01:08:35.500 --> 01:08:43.500
+But I think what we're basically describing here is the idea that not chocolate on my face, I think.
+
+01:08:43.500 --> 01:08:45.500
+I'm going to confess to you.
+
+01:08:45.500 --> 01:08:51.500
+I have a little shoebox full of, well, it's not full, but it's got Halloween candy in it.
+
+01:08:51.500 --> 01:08:56.500
+And I've been kind of keeping it back there by my drum set, and I forgot about it, and I remembered it the other day.
+
+01:08:56.500 --> 01:09:10.500
+And so since my appetite is back after I can breathe again, I've been sneaking some very bad things, but actually I'm so low on weight that right now, I'm just not going to really worry about it too much.
+
+01:09:10.500 --> 01:09:11.500
+I'm not going crazy.
+
+01:09:11.500 --> 01:09:13.500
+It's just keeping me awake.
+
+01:09:14.500 --> 01:09:19.500
+So the point is here, as I just confess to you, that I'm not some angel either.
+
+01:09:19.500 --> 01:09:33.500
+At least when it regards to what I eat all the time, I eat so well throughout the day because of my best friend and wife that having a couple small pieces of butter fingers is probably not going to kill me at this time.
+
+01:09:34.500 --> 01:09:49.500
+So what I'm trying to say here, long story short, is that I think this sounds very much like, well, we can mask around old people and we can isolate the old people and maybe, you know, we have to make some changes in public, you know, if we have to mask in certain public places, that's okay, masking
+
+01:09:49.500 --> 01:09:52.500
+and maybe we'll mask in hospitals.
+
+01:09:52.500 --> 01:09:59.500
+Maybe we need to mask in schools, but we're only going to do certain things depending on what's really necessary.
+
+01:09:59.500 --> 01:10:02.500
+We can't just mandate it everywhere.
+
+01:10:02.500 --> 01:10:15.500
+And so we're starting to kind of talk in this way where it says, you know, if the vaccines were, were subject to randomized control trials with placebo's, I would be fine with mandating them.
+
+01:10:15.500 --> 01:10:21.500
+So we're almost starting to say these things that aren't really saying what they, they purport to be saying.
+
+01:10:21.500 --> 01:10:24.500
+Kind of really not talking as tough as we're supposed to be.
+
+01:10:24.500 --> 01:10:26.500
+We think that they're talking.
+
+01:10:26.500 --> 01:10:35.500
+And I think already here, if you listen very carefully, he's not actually saying that, well, masks don't work, but, you know, if we have to require them someplace is okay.
+
+01:10:35.500 --> 01:10:41.500
+And yeah, they leak everywhere, but, but, but, well, not but, but, but.
+
+01:10:41.500 --> 01:10:49.500
+And so it's not as, yeah, it's just not as impressive as you would want it to be if you really knew that these people were fighting for us.
+
+01:10:50.500 --> 01:10:52.500
+Family doctor in Peoria, because you could take or leave his advice.
+
+01:10:52.500 --> 01:10:55.500
+But because it became so centralized, and he'll argue, I didn't, I didn't force any mandates.
+
+01:10:55.500 --> 01:11:03.500
+Well, once it becomes the dogma of the CDC and of NIH, what happens is if I own a private hotel, best practices, according to Dr. Fauci, everybody should wear a mask and we should only have 25% occupancy.
+
+01:11:03.500 --> 01:11:08.500
+So some of the mandates rolled off of best practices, but it all flowed downhill from Fauci and his, I think, mistaken advice.
+
+01:11:08.500 --> 01:11:10.500
+And for saying this, YouTube banned you.
+
+01:11:10.500 --> 01:11:14.500
+I have been censored up and kicked out of, you know, a lot of good places, but I take that as a badge of honor.
+
+01:11:15.500 --> 01:11:22.500
+And I think the real problem is not so much that YouTube censored me or Twitter or Facebook, Facebook censored people for a year and a half on the COVID origins, but it's that the government's coordinating with them.
+
+01:11:22.500 --> 01:11:30.500
+And that's my real objection to it is that weekly FBI and the Department of Homeland Security are actually meeting with journalists, Twitter, et cetera, and saying, you know, this is stuff we want you to take down.
+
+01:11:30.500 --> 01:11:32.500
+You've decided not to go back to YouTube.
+
+01:11:32.500 --> 01:11:35.500
+I'm on Rumble, and I think that's part of the libertarian or free market answer this.
+
+01:11:35.500 --> 01:11:36.500
+You don't like somebody, you don't use them.
+
+01:11:36.500 --> 01:11:37.500
+If you don't like their policy, you don't use them.
+
+01:11:37.500 --> 01:11:38.500
+Go somewhere else.
+
+01:11:38.500 --> 01:11:39.500
+Then you reach fewer people.
+
+01:11:39.500 --> 01:11:40.500
+Maybe, maybe not.
+
+01:11:40.500 --> 01:11:41.500
+YouTube probably is still a lot bigger than Rumble.
+
+01:11:41.500 --> 01:11:44.500
+I don't make any money off of doing it, so I just am having to go where I can get my views out.
+
+01:11:44.500 --> 01:11:48.500
+And I want to try to put my product or my content where people are actually open to freedom of speech.
+
+01:11:48.500 --> 01:11:51.500
+But I am of the belief that we should stop government from coordinating with these people.
+
+01:11:51.500 --> 01:11:55.500
+I don't think the First Amendment allows government to stop Twitter from banning me or YouTube from banning me.
+
+01:11:55.500 --> 01:11:58.500
+I think the First Amendment does allow for me to regulate the FBI and say the FBI cannot have routine meetings.
+
+01:11:58.500 --> 01:12:00.500
+And it's amazing how people don't get this.
+
+01:12:00.500 --> 01:12:07.500
+Like, I'll have an interview with a broadcast journalist, and I'll say to them, what would you think if after our interview you had a meeting, the FBI college and said we'd like to meet, and then we're going to look at your footage.
+
+01:12:07.500 --> 01:12:10.500
+We want to see what would be misinformation that you brought out of Randfall, and it shouldn't be aired.
+
+01:12:10.500 --> 01:12:13.500
+Well, people would be horrified by that, yet there's little outrage about this.
+
+01:12:13.500 --> 01:12:15.500
+What amazes me is how the outrage is only on one side anymore.
+
+01:12:15.500 --> 01:12:20.500
+I've been trying to get a Democrat on my bill to say that the government shouldn't be involved with censorship, and I cannot find one Democrat.
+
+01:12:20.500 --> 01:12:23.500
+And I lecture them, you know, relentlessly saying you guys used to be the good guys.
+
+01:12:23.500 --> 01:12:25.500
+In the 1960s, it was the left that criticized Hoover.
+
+01:12:25.500 --> 01:12:29.500
+It was the left that said Civil War protesters, you shouldn't be censoring their speech and investigating them.
+
+01:12:29.500 --> 01:12:33.500
+It was the left that says you shouldn't be looking at Martin Luther King's private phone calls, and you shouldn't be threatening Mark Luke King.
+
+01:12:33.500 --> 01:12:35.500
+The left was the defender of the First Amendment, the right wasn't so good.
+
+01:12:35.500 --> 01:12:38.500
+Now it's sort of completely flipped, and I'm hard pressed to find anybody on the left or some.
+
+01:12:38.500 --> 01:12:41.500
+But those people are now renegade to the left, Glenn Greenwald, Matt Teiby.
+
+01:12:41.500 --> 01:12:46.500
+These were people who probably would tell you they came from the left, but are still defenders of the First Amendment, but they're so very few.
+
+01:12:46.500 --> 01:12:47.500
+The silence is deafening.
+
+01:12:47.500 --> 01:12:49.500
+Staying on the topic of mistakes, the beginning of the pandemic.
+
+01:12:49.500 --> 01:12:51.500
+Government officials closed beaches.
+
+01:12:51.500 --> 01:12:53.500
+The closed sign staggered on the sidewalk paints a clear picture.
+
+01:12:53.500 --> 01:12:54.500
+The beaches will remain closed.
+
+01:12:54.500 --> 01:12:57.500
+One of my favorite images is in California, the Coast Guard.
+
+01:12:57.500 --> 01:13:01.500
+Coast Guard Cutter facing a guy down paddleboarding by himself in the Pacific Ocean, as if he's somehow a threat.
+
+01:13:01.500 --> 01:13:04.500
+And the ridiculousness of that makes people distrust government.
+
+01:13:04.500 --> 01:13:09.500
+My other favorite image is a guy was jogging on the beach in California, and you can tell he's very light-footed, and he's just cruising along the beach.
+
+01:13:09.500 --> 01:13:12.500
+And a policeman's coming up to try to stop him from being on the beach by himself.
+
+01:13:12.500 --> 01:13:13.500
+And the policeman's being heavy boots on.
+
+01:13:13.500 --> 01:13:14.500
+He's trying to get closer.
+
+01:13:14.500 --> 01:13:17.500
+And the guy sees him at the corner of his eye, and just sort of picks up his face.
+
+01:13:17.500 --> 01:13:20.500
+And you can just see this guy running, and he never gets caught into like, hooray for freedom.
+
+01:13:20.500 --> 01:13:22.500
+A guy's on the beach running, leaving the hell alone.
+
+01:13:22.500 --> 01:13:23.500
+Vaccine mandates.
+
+01:13:23.500 --> 01:13:24.500
+They were trying to protect people.
+
+01:13:24.500 --> 01:13:26.500
+Good intentions don't excuse bad behavior.
+
+01:13:26.500 --> 01:13:29.500
+It goes back to the supposition, are people too stupid to make their own mind up?
+
+01:13:29.500 --> 01:13:31.500
+I'd like to go back to the sort of beginning with vaccines to Smallpox.
+
+01:13:31.500 --> 01:13:33.500
+When Smallpox came out, the vaccine was like 1720s.
+
+01:13:33.500 --> 01:13:34.500
+It was very, very controversial.
+
+01:13:34.500 --> 01:13:35.500
+It was a live vaccine.
+
+01:13:35.500 --> 01:13:39.500
+They took some pus from somebody who had Smallpox, unroofed it, and stuck it in somebody's arm who didn't have Smallpox.
+
+01:13:39.500 --> 01:13:40.500
+They gave you Smallpox.
+
+01:13:40.500 --> 01:13:42.500
+And yet the public, by and large, pretty much accepted it.
+
+01:13:42.500 --> 01:13:43.500
+It had a death rate of 1 in 50.
+
+01:13:43.500 --> 01:13:44.500
+But the death rate from Smallpox was 30%.
+
+01:13:44.500 --> 01:13:45.500
+People aren't stupid.
+
+01:13:45.500 --> 01:13:47.500
+When Smallpox came to town, people lined up and took this vaccine.
+
+01:13:47.500 --> 01:13:49.500
+The doctors who started doing it vaccinated their kids first.
+
+01:13:49.500 --> 01:13:50.500
+They didn't mandate it.
+
+01:13:50.500 --> 01:13:51.500
+They showed, look, I'm proud of this.
+
+01:13:51.500 --> 01:13:52.500
+I'm vaccinating my kids.
+
+01:13:52.500 --> 01:13:53.500
+And it took off.
+
+01:13:53.500 --> 01:13:55.500
+George Washington, a bit.
+
+01:13:55.500 --> 01:13:58.500
+It should be called very, very elating, right?
+
+01:13:58.500 --> 01:14:01.500
+If they scratch it into the skin.
+
+01:14:01.500 --> 01:14:06.500
+Which is, of course, inoculation at a barrier.
+
+01:14:06.500 --> 01:14:12.500
+Which is definitely not intramuscular injection of a combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system.
+
+01:14:12.500 --> 01:14:13.500
+It's an injection at a barrier.
+
+01:14:13.500 --> 01:14:21.500
+It's an exposure to a barrier exactly how I would advocate to at least attempt to augment the immune system.
+
+01:14:21.500 --> 01:14:25.500
+Actually, tell Martha she can't come to the camps until she's had a Smallpox vaccine and she does.
+
+01:14:26.500 --> 01:14:27.500
+But here's the interesting point about it.
+
+01:14:27.500 --> 01:14:28.500
+When we put this in the book as well.
+
+01:14:28.500 --> 01:14:29.500
+George Washington didn't take the vaccination.
+
+01:14:29.500 --> 01:14:30.500
+He was like, why?
+
+01:14:30.500 --> 01:14:31.500
+Was he a vaccine anti-vaxxer?
+
+01:14:31.500 --> 01:14:32.500
+Why didn't he take the vaccine?
+
+01:14:32.500 --> 01:14:34.500
+Because he had Smallpox scars on his face.
+
+01:14:34.500 --> 01:14:35.500
+He had Smallpox.
+
+01:14:35.500 --> 01:14:38.500
+So we used to believe and know that when you had something, it provided immunity.
+
+01:14:38.500 --> 01:14:39.500
+Not always perfect immunity.
+
+01:14:39.500 --> 01:14:40.500
+Smallpox is pretty much complete immunity.
+
+01:14:40.500 --> 01:14:43.500
+But most time people knew if you had something, if you got it again, you'd have less of a reaction the second time around.
+
+01:14:43.500 --> 01:14:44.500
+Because you probably already knew it.
+
+01:14:44.500 --> 01:14:45.500
+The vaccine didn't provide perfect immunity.
+
+01:14:45.500 --> 01:14:46.500
+Probably actually less so.
+
+01:14:46.500 --> 01:14:48.500
+We now, through a million person study, know that getting it naturally was twice as good.
+
+01:14:48.500 --> 01:14:51.500
+But if you tell this to a left wing reporter, they'll say, oh, you just want people to get sick and dying.
+
+01:14:51.500 --> 01:14:52.500
+If they don't die, they have immunity.
+
+01:14:52.500 --> 01:14:54.500
+It's like, well, no, I'm just acknowledging that a lot of people got sick.
+
+01:14:54.500 --> 01:14:55.500
+Some did die.
+
+01:14:55.500 --> 01:14:56.500
+I was tragic.
+
+01:14:56.500 --> 01:14:57.500
+But the ones who got sick give them the information so they know what to do.
+
+01:14:57.500 --> 01:14:59.500
+Do they need 10 more vaccines or is it protected?
+
+01:14:59.500 --> 01:15:00.500
+See, the CDC knows this.
+
+01:15:00.500 --> 01:15:02.500
+The CDC will not reveal this information.
+
+01:15:02.500 --> 01:15:04.500
+So instead of your government helping you make decisions, the CDC will not tell us.
+
+01:15:04.500 --> 01:15:06.500
+If you're 60, let's say you're 75 years old and you've got two vaccines.
+
+01:15:06.500 --> 01:15:07.500
+You took the advice in the beginning.
+
+01:15:07.500 --> 01:15:08.500
+And then you've had COVID once.
+
+01:15:08.500 --> 01:15:09.500
+What are your chances of dying again?
+
+01:15:09.500 --> 01:15:11.500
+I think they may be zero or very close to zero.
+
+01:15:11.500 --> 01:15:15.500
+It may not need your third, fourth, and fifth one, but you should be given the information the government has.
+
+01:15:15.500 --> 01:15:23.500
+So we're not talking about whether or not any of those old people are dying at a higher rate after their vaccine.
+
+01:15:23.500 --> 01:15:27.500
+We're talking about what do they need another one?
+
+01:15:27.500 --> 01:15:31.500
+What an interestingly irrelevant debate.
+
+01:15:31.500 --> 01:15:36.500
+What an interestingly irrelevant discussion to sound intelligent about.
+
+01:15:37.500 --> 01:15:41.500
+Well, I mean, how do we know if these old people only needed two shots?
+
+01:15:41.500 --> 01:15:44.500
+We don't need to be pushing four and five shots if they only needed two shots.
+
+01:15:44.500 --> 01:15:45.500
+How come we don't?
+
+01:15:45.500 --> 01:15:47.500
+The CDC doesn't tell us this.
+
+01:15:47.500 --> 01:15:52.500
+Is he not worried about whether or not the CDC is covering up people dying from the vaccine?
+
+01:15:52.500 --> 01:15:55.500
+Of course, he's not worried about it.
+
+01:15:55.500 --> 01:15:58.500
+Millions of people were saved by it.
+
+01:15:58.500 --> 01:16:01.500
+It's part of the faith.
+
+01:16:01.500 --> 01:16:03.500
+I hope you can see this.
+
+01:16:03.500 --> 01:16:05.500
+Got to see it for what it is.
+
+01:16:05.500 --> 01:16:15.500
+It's really bad because we are solidifying this in the minds of the young.
+
+01:16:15.500 --> 01:16:18.500
+They can't see through this lie.
+
+01:16:18.500 --> 01:16:23.500
+They can't imagine that people would lie about a virus.
+
+01:16:23.500 --> 01:16:30.500
+They can't imagine that he doesn't know what he's talking about, that he's just reading.
+
+01:16:30.500 --> 01:16:35.500
+Governing power, talking points.
+
+01:16:35.500 --> 01:16:45.500
+Wittingly or unwittingly, he is playing us right into their hands.
+
+01:16:45.500 --> 01:16:46.500
+Shoot.
+
+01:16:46.500 --> 01:16:47.500
+I thought I had that cut up.
+
+01:16:47.500 --> 01:16:50.500
+To whether or not you believe there's something nefarious and monetary incentive involved
+
+01:16:50.500 --> 01:16:52.500
+and whether or not they're doing this to make money for big pharma.
+
+01:16:52.500 --> 01:16:53.500
+I'm not so proud of this to believe that.
+
+01:16:53.500 --> 01:16:56.500
+I think these probably are good people that aren't doing it for it, but I've asked questions.
+
+01:16:57.500 --> 01:16:59.500
+Is anybody on the committees to approve the vaccine?
+
+01:16:59.500 --> 01:17:01.500
+Do any of them receive money from the vaccine manufacturers?
+
+01:17:01.500 --> 01:17:02.500
+They won't answer me.
+
+01:17:02.500 --> 01:17:03.500
+Dr. Fauci told me it was none of my business.
+
+01:17:03.500 --> 01:17:05.500
+He said that a law prevented him from revealing that to me.
+
+01:17:05.500 --> 01:17:07.500
+That's not an acceptable response.
+
+01:17:07.500 --> 01:17:10.500
+When they approved the third vaccine for children, the first committee was the FDA committee.
+
+01:17:10.500 --> 01:17:12.500
+It's full of all scientists that are pro-vaccine.
+
+01:17:12.500 --> 01:17:13.500
+In fact, they don't have a problem with mandates at all.
+
+01:17:13.500 --> 01:17:15.500
+They came out with the advice 65 and older.
+
+01:17:15.500 --> 01:17:16.500
+Nobody else for the booster.
+
+01:17:16.500 --> 01:17:17.500
+CDC had another vaccine committee.
+
+01:17:17.500 --> 01:17:20.500
+Scientists, all pro-vaccine, fine with mandates.
+
+01:17:20.500 --> 01:17:21.500
+They said the same thing, 65 and older.
+
+01:17:21.500 --> 01:17:23.500
+Rochelle Walensky, a political appointee of Biden,
+
+01:17:23.500 --> 01:17:27.500
+overrode both scientific committees and said the vaccine booster should be given to six months and up.
+
+01:17:27.500 --> 01:17:28.500
+Most of the countries of Europe don't do this.
+
+01:17:28.500 --> 01:17:30.500
+Almost every country of Europe, it's 12 and over and it's advice.
+
+01:17:30.500 --> 01:17:31.500
+Why? What's the motivation?
+
+01:17:31.500 --> 01:17:32.500
+That's the question.
+
+01:17:32.500 --> 01:17:35.500
+Get more people frightened and then they'll take the vaccine and that will save America.
+
+01:17:35.500 --> 01:17:38.500
+I think most of them are not very smart and they just blind like they take the damn vaccine, shut up and take it.
+
+01:17:38.500 --> 01:17:39.500
+It's good for you.
+
+01:17:39.500 --> 01:17:40.500
+I don't think about it.
+
+01:17:40.500 --> 01:17:42.500
+And maybe on the margins, it doesn't do much for kids, but probably not going to hurt you.
+
+01:17:42.500 --> 01:17:45.500
+The problem with the vaccine turns out that there is some risk of a hard inflammation for young people.
+
+01:17:45.500 --> 01:17:46.500
+We've advised people to take it.
+
+01:17:46.500 --> 01:17:48.500
+If you're older, take the vaccine, even take the boosters.
+
+01:17:48.500 --> 01:17:49.500
+Probably not going to hurt you.
+
+01:17:49.500 --> 01:17:50.500
+Have you?
+
+01:17:51.500 --> 01:17:52.500
+My wife got vaccinated.
+
+01:17:52.500 --> 01:17:53.500
+We're not against the advice.
+
+01:17:53.500 --> 01:17:54.500
+It's actually inoculated, meaning you had COVID.
+
+01:17:54.500 --> 01:17:55.500
+I had COVID.
+
+01:17:55.500 --> 01:17:56.500
+So I have immunity and some immunity.
+
+01:17:56.500 --> 01:17:57.500
+Yeah.
+
+01:17:57.500 --> 01:17:58.500
+Well, I'm got it again that I know of.
+
+01:17:58.500 --> 01:17:59.500
+I've had a cold once and that could have been COVID.
+
+01:17:59.500 --> 01:18:00.500
+I don't know.
+
+01:18:00.500 --> 01:18:01.500
+It should be a personal decision.
+
+01:18:01.500 --> 01:18:03.500
+Aren't there people that say you should say your body, your choice?
+
+01:18:03.500 --> 01:18:04.500
+My body, my choice.
+
+01:18:04.500 --> 01:18:05.500
+My body, my choice.
+
+01:18:05.500 --> 01:18:07.500
+My body, my choice.
+
+01:18:07.500 --> 01:18:09.500
+Except for vaccines, I guess, you know, in Sweden.
+
+01:18:09.500 --> 01:18:10.500
+And so.
+
+01:18:12.500 --> 01:18:18.500
+Please understand how the biology of a novel virus that we were all vulnerable to.
+
+01:18:19.500 --> 01:18:22.500
+Is not being challenged here.
+
+01:18:22.500 --> 01:18:27.500
+He's actually arguing for the idea that he doesn't need to get vaccinated because he
+
+01:18:27.500 --> 01:18:31.500
+got the novel virus and was infected by it and survived.
+
+01:18:31.500 --> 01:18:38.500
+Just like George Washington had smallpox scars on his face, he got infected.
+
+01:18:38.500 --> 01:18:44.500
+So God gave him his vaccine.
+
+01:18:44.500 --> 01:18:48.500
+Why doesn't he argue for his wife not needing a vaccine because she was in the
+
+01:18:48.500 --> 01:18:49.500
+same household as him.
+
+01:18:49.500 --> 01:18:53.500
+She would have developed immunity because you develop T cell immunity, even if you
+
+01:18:53.500 --> 01:18:57.500
+don't develop all the symptoms, we have many papers that show that, including
+
+01:18:57.500 --> 01:19:07.500
+nature papers that I think he's even been sent by me or a viewer of ours.
+
+01:19:07.500 --> 01:19:12.500
+So again, we are talking about selective.
+
+01:19:12.500 --> 01:19:14.500
+They, they aren't listening.
+
+01:19:14.500 --> 01:19:19.500
+We've sent them this, this biology over the course of the last three years and
+
+01:19:19.500 --> 01:19:22.500
+they are not listening.
+
+01:19:22.500 --> 01:19:26.500
+We have tried to put this biology into different books and those authors don't
+
+01:19:26.500 --> 01:19:31.500
+listen because the story of a novel virus needs to be told.
+
+01:19:31.500 --> 01:19:35.500
+The story of millions of people dying needs to be told.
+
+01:19:35.500 --> 01:19:38.500
+The story of millions of people being saved needs to be told.
+
+01:19:38.500 --> 01:19:43.500
+The story of gain of function and the possibility of killing half the planet
+
+01:19:43.500 --> 01:19:44.500
+needs to be told.
+
+01:19:44.500 --> 01:19:49.500
+And the possibility of the virus coming again needs to exist so that they can
+
+01:19:49.500 --> 01:19:55.500
+force the next things upon us.
+
+01:19:55.500 --> 01:20:00.500
+And it could even be that while we talk about, you know, these viruses don't exist
+
+01:20:00.500 --> 01:20:05.500
+or, or this danger doesn't exist, that we're still wasting our time because
+
+01:20:05.500 --> 01:20:09.500
+what we should really be saying is they're about to make us have digital ID on the
+
+01:20:09.500 --> 01:20:11.500
+internet.
+
+01:20:11.500 --> 01:20:18.500
+And once we have digital ID on the internet, we basically have digital ID for money.
+
+01:20:18.500 --> 01:20:21.500
+And once we have that, well, then we're done.
+
+01:20:21.500 --> 01:20:24.500
+Slowly but surely we're done anyway, I guess.
+
+01:20:24.500 --> 01:20:28.500
+I don't know how else to say it because not enough people are waking up now,
+
+01:20:28.500 --> 01:20:31.500
+not enough people want to wake up.
+
+01:20:32.500 --> 01:20:39.500
+But at least we can try and show them that this biological mythology is exactly that.
+
+01:20:39.500 --> 01:20:44.500
+And we knew that they were taking us here for the last two years.
+
+01:20:44.500 --> 01:20:50.500
+We knew that they were taking us right here for the left and the right to come to the
+
+01:20:50.500 --> 01:20:53.500
+conclusion that holy cow, it's a lab leak.
+
+01:20:53.500 --> 01:20:54.500
+That is crazy.
+
+01:20:54.500 --> 01:20:57.500
+No wonder it was such a nutty pandemic.
+
+01:20:57.500 --> 01:20:58.500
+Unbelievable.
+
+01:20:58.500 --> 01:21:02.500
+That means their Jenny died of a, of a bio weapon.
+
+01:21:02.500 --> 01:21:06.500
+Can you believe it?
+
+01:21:06.500 --> 01:21:08.500
+Where they did say natural and unity was helpful.
+
+01:21:08.500 --> 01:21:09.500
+They were tracked.
+
+01:21:09.500 --> 01:21:11.500
+And it turns out they did as well or better than most parts of Europe.
+
+01:21:11.500 --> 01:21:13.500
+And they also didn't mandate masks in schools.
+
+01:21:13.500 --> 01:21:14.500
+They also didn't close the schools.
+
+01:21:14.500 --> 01:21:16.500
+So everything we did in this country is wrong.
+
+01:21:16.500 --> 01:21:18.500
+And that's why the debates, this isn't just looking back in the rearview mirror just for
+
+01:21:18.500 --> 01:21:19.500
+the hell of it.
+
+01:21:19.500 --> 01:21:22.500
+This is to make sure we actually learn something and don't do this kind of lockdown mentality
+
+01:21:22.500 --> 01:21:23.500
+again.
+
+01:21:23.500 --> 01:21:24.500
+On balance, the vaccines were a good thing.
+
+01:21:24.500 --> 01:21:25.500
+If you were at risk.
+
+01:21:25.500 --> 01:21:26.500
+Yeah.
+
+01:21:26.500 --> 01:21:27.500
+So I would say that you base it on risk.
+
+01:21:27.500 --> 01:21:29.500
+If you say, are they a good thing for a 75 year old?
+
+01:21:29.500 --> 01:21:30.500
+I think we save lives.
+
+01:21:30.500 --> 01:21:31.500
+If you say, did they save any five year old's life?
+
+01:21:31.500 --> 01:21:32.500
+No.
+
+01:21:32.500 --> 01:21:35.500
+And we know now that it's about two to three kids out of 15,000 will get a heart inflammation,
+
+01:21:35.500 --> 01:21:37.500
+which may lead to permanent damage to their heart.
+
+01:21:37.500 --> 01:21:38.500
+So people just need to know that.
+
+01:21:38.500 --> 01:21:40.500
+If you're a parent want to take that risk for your 15 year old,
+
+01:21:40.500 --> 01:21:41.500
+it's perfectly healthy.
+
+01:21:41.500 --> 01:21:42.500
+Fine.
+
+01:21:42.500 --> 01:21:43.500
+But there are a lot of parents with a healthy 15 year old who are told that the mortality
+
+01:21:43.500 --> 01:21:47.500
+is zero that will take their chances with COVID rather than two or three chances out of 15,000
+
+01:21:47.500 --> 01:21:48.500
+of a heart inflammation.
+
+01:21:48.500 --> 01:21:53.500
+Since it works for older people, people my age, the Republican messaging may have killed people.
+
+01:21:53.500 --> 01:21:55.500
+There's data that shows that more Republicans died.
+
+01:21:55.500 --> 01:21:56.500
+I think it's actually the opposite.
+
+01:21:56.500 --> 01:21:58.500
+I think what happened is vaccine hesitancy comes from people's disability.
+
+01:21:58.500 --> 01:21:59.500
+Holy cow.
+
+01:21:59.500 --> 01:22:03.500
+So if the government comes, it works for people like me, where they did say.
+
+01:22:03.500 --> 01:22:04.500
+Wow.
+
+01:22:04.500 --> 01:22:05.500
+It was helpful.
+
+01:22:05.500 --> 01:22:06.500
+They were tracked.
+
+01:22:06.500 --> 01:22:08.500
+And it turns out they did as well or better than most parts of Europe.
+
+01:22:08.500 --> 01:22:10.500
+And they also didn't mandate masks in schools.
+
+01:22:10.500 --> 01:22:11.500
+They also didn't close the schools.
+
+01:22:11.500 --> 01:22:12.500
+So everything we did in this country is wrong.
+
+01:22:12.500 --> 01:22:15.500
+And that's why the debates, this isn't just looking back in the rearview mirror just for the hell of it.
+
+01:22:15.500 --> 01:22:18.500
+This is to make sure we actually learn something and don't do this kind of lockdown mentality again.
+
+01:22:18.500 --> 01:22:20.500
+On balance, the vaccines were a good thing.
+
+01:22:20.500 --> 01:22:21.500
+If you were at risk.
+
+01:22:21.500 --> 01:22:22.500
+Yeah.
+
+01:22:22.500 --> 01:22:23.500
+So I would say that you base it on risk.
+
+01:22:23.500 --> 01:22:25.500
+If you say, are they a good thing for a 75 year old?
+
+01:22:25.500 --> 01:22:26.500
+I think we save lives.
+
+01:22:26.500 --> 01:22:27.500
+If you say, did they save any five year old's life?
+
+01:22:27.500 --> 01:22:28.500
+No.
+
+01:22:28.500 --> 01:22:31.500
+And we know now that it's about two to three kids out of 15,000 will get a heart inflammation,
+
+01:22:31.500 --> 01:22:33.500
+which may lead to permanent damage to their heart.
+
+01:22:33.500 --> 01:22:34.500
+So people just need to know that.
+
+01:22:34.500 --> 01:22:37.500
+If you're a parent want to take that risk for your 15 year old who's perfectly healthy, fine,
+
+01:22:37.500 --> 01:22:40.500
+but there are a lot of parents with a healthy 15 year old who are told that the mortality is zero,
+
+01:22:40.500 --> 01:22:44.500
+that we'll take their chances with COVID rather than two or three chances out of 15,000 of a heart inflammation.
+
+01:22:44.500 --> 01:22:51.500
+Take your chances with COVID that somebody like Paul Offit will tell you is much, much better at causing heart inflammation
+
+01:22:51.500 --> 01:22:54.500
+and heart damage than the vaccine is.
+
+01:22:55.500 --> 01:23:01.500
+That your own doctor will tell you the habit the virus is much, much better at causing heart damage than the vaccine is.
+
+01:23:01.500 --> 01:23:06.500
+I've heard hundreds of them say it, tweet it, post it on Facebook.
+
+01:23:06.500 --> 01:23:09.500
+Are you kidding me?
+
+01:23:09.500 --> 01:23:13.500
+He's walking everyone right into the wood chipper of being called.
+
+01:23:13.500 --> 01:23:16.500
+Wow, you're really an idiot, aren't you?
+
+01:23:16.500 --> 01:23:19.500
+Don't you know that this novel virus is so much worse.
+
+01:23:19.500 --> 01:23:22.500
+The spike protein of this virus is so much.
+
+01:23:22.500 --> 01:23:24.500
+I mean, are you crazy?
+
+01:23:24.500 --> 01:23:26.500
+Who told you that?
+
+01:23:26.500 --> 01:23:28.500
+Rand Paul.
+
+01:23:28.500 --> 01:23:33.500
+And here is Rand Paul so calmly just rattling it off the same.
+
+01:23:33.500 --> 01:23:42.500
+The same stick that he was saying way back in 2020, basically with some more details, but it's basically the same garbage.
+
+01:23:42.500 --> 01:23:44.500
+It's a lab leak.
+
+01:23:44.500 --> 01:23:49.500
+And the vaccine saved old people and people like his age.
+
+01:23:49.500 --> 01:23:52.500
+We probably just shouldn't have given it to kids.
+
+01:23:52.500 --> 01:23:54.500
+I mean, that's all, you know, that's really it.
+
+01:23:54.500 --> 01:23:57.500
+We only kind of overstepped.
+
+01:23:57.500 --> 01:23:59.500
+I mean, it's still great for old people.
+
+01:23:59.500 --> 01:24:02.500
+Old people should still take it.
+
+01:24:02.500 --> 01:24:05.500
+Holy man.
+
+01:24:05.500 --> 01:24:11.500
+Imagine since it works for older people, people my age, the Republican messaging may have killed people.
+
+01:24:11.500 --> 01:24:13.500
+There's data that shows that more Republicans died.
+
+01:24:13.500 --> 01:24:14.500
+I think it's actually the opposite.
+
+01:24:14.500 --> 01:24:17.500
+I think what happened is vaccine hesitancy comes from people's disbelief in government.
+
+01:24:17.500 --> 01:24:20.500
+So if the government comes to you and says everybody needs to have a vaccine including your six-month-old,
+
+01:24:20.500 --> 01:24:23.500
+and you know either instinctively or through the evidence that they're lying to you about the six-month-old,
+
+01:24:23.500 --> 01:24:25.500
+that they really don't need it, then you start to distrust them.
+
+01:24:25.500 --> 01:24:28.500
+You sound 75, but if they're lying to me about the kids, maybe they're lying to me about this.
+
+01:24:28.500 --> 01:24:32.500
+So I would say that some vaccine hesitancy came from people's distrust, just overwhelming distrust of government period,
+
+01:24:32.500 --> 01:24:33.500
+but I think government made it worse.
+
+01:24:33.500 --> 01:24:35.500
+It made vaccine hesitancy worse by telling you things that weren't true.
+
+01:24:35.500 --> 01:24:37.500
+Everybody in the news, this was a disease of elderly.
+
+01:24:37.500 --> 01:24:38.500
+But here's a fact.
+
+01:24:38.500 --> 01:24:39.500
+For the most part, vaccines were voluntary.
+
+01:24:39.500 --> 01:24:42.500
+Separate people worked in the government, firemen, policemen, things like that, hospital workers.
+
+01:24:42.500 --> 01:24:44.500
+But for the vast majority of the public over 65, you could make your choice.
+
+01:24:44.500 --> 01:24:48.500
+Over age 65, over 97% of people chose to be vaccinated.
+
+01:24:48.500 --> 01:24:51.500
+So this whole idea, you know, Anthony Fauci will interview the New York Times and they'll be like,
+
+01:24:51.500 --> 01:24:54.500
+oh, if we didn't have such a vaccine hesitancy, billions of people died.
+
+01:24:54.500 --> 01:24:55.500
+People at risk are not stupid.
+
+01:24:55.500 --> 01:24:56.500
+People read the newspaper.
+
+01:24:56.500 --> 01:24:57.500
+They saw this on the news.
+
+01:24:57.500 --> 01:25:00.500
+And no matter what they kept telling us about young people getting sick, that was extraordinary.
+
+01:25:00.500 --> 01:25:02.500
+This was a disease almost entirely of the elderly.
+
+01:25:02.500 --> 01:25:03.500
+The elderly got it and they all got vaccinated.
+
+01:25:03.500 --> 01:25:05.500
+Now if you want to look at 30-year-old, tell me I'm going to have a vaccine, it's like 20 or 30%.
+
+01:25:05.500 --> 01:25:06.500
+Well, guess what?
+
+01:25:06.500 --> 01:25:07.500
+Very few 30-year-olds died.
+
+01:25:07.500 --> 01:25:08.500
+And most of that was associated with obesity.
+
+01:25:08.500 --> 01:25:09.500
+And they should have promoted that.
+
+01:25:09.500 --> 01:25:11.500
+Instead, they said it had racial origins, and this and that.
+
+01:25:11.500 --> 01:25:12.500
+No, overweight people were significantly risk.
+
+01:25:12.500 --> 01:25:15.500
+And I know several people who died in their 30s and 40s were who got very sick.
+
+01:25:15.500 --> 01:25:17.500
+And obesity was a huge factor in this disease.
+
+01:25:17.500 --> 01:25:20.500
+One other Republican policy to ask you about.
+
+01:25:20.500 --> 01:25:25.500
+Governor, no mention of the fact that all the people are dying in the hospital.
+
+01:25:25.500 --> 01:25:29.500
+No mention of hospital protocols, just fat people.
+
+01:25:29.500 --> 01:25:31.500
+Francis in Florida, I think, did a great job.
+
+01:25:31.500 --> 01:25:32.500
+He kept the state open.
+
+01:25:32.500 --> 01:25:34.500
+Kids in school did better than other states.
+
+01:25:35.500 --> 01:25:39.500
+But he also, in his venom against vaccine mandates and mask mandates, said,
+
+01:25:39.500 --> 01:25:42.500
+you're not allowed in your store to require customers to have a mask.
+
+01:25:42.500 --> 01:25:43.500
+No, that's wrong.
+
+01:25:43.500 --> 01:25:44.500
+And I think he went too far.
+
+01:25:44.500 --> 01:25:47.500
+He did the same thing with the commercial cruisers, you know, the cruise lines.
+
+01:25:47.500 --> 01:25:49.500
+He said to them, oh, you can't have a vaccine mandate.
+
+01:25:49.500 --> 01:25:52.500
+In mistakes, and this is a real problem between public and private.
+
+01:25:52.500 --> 01:25:54.500
+Libertarians believe that the government should enforce you to do things,
+
+01:25:54.500 --> 01:25:56.500
+but we have no problem with a private entity.
+
+01:25:56.500 --> 01:25:59.500
+So if you have a restaurant and you are all in on the mask and all in on the vaccines,
+
+01:25:59.500 --> 01:26:00.500
+nothing should ever stop you.
+
+01:26:00.500 --> 01:26:03.500
+You can demand 10 vaccines and 10 masks if you want.
+
+01:26:03.500 --> 01:26:05.500
+The only other problem on the side of, well, is this government or not,
+
+01:26:05.500 --> 01:26:07.500
+is that the government best practices sort of push some of this down.
+
+01:26:07.500 --> 01:26:10.500
+So when Fauci says it and the CDC makes it their official plan and you have a private restaurant,
+
+01:26:10.500 --> 01:26:13.500
+and you want to do no masks and no vaccines, you worry about being sued then.
+
+01:26:13.500 --> 01:26:16.500
+So there is this pressure from government, but I don't think the answer is to then regulate you
+
+01:26:16.500 --> 01:26:17.500
+as a private business and say, you can't do it.
+
+01:26:17.500 --> 01:26:20.500
+The answer is to tell people at the top, you need to quit putting out these pronouncements
+
+01:26:20.500 --> 01:26:23.500
+that are not scientific and are not certain because you're making a liability problem
+
+01:26:23.500 --> 01:26:25.500
+for businesses who feel like, you know, they don't want to follow your mandates,
+
+01:26:25.500 --> 01:26:26.500
+but they've eventually become mandates these edicts.
+
+01:26:26.500 --> 01:26:29.500
+I used to think that for public, we'd learn from these government mistakes and say,
+
+01:26:29.500 --> 01:26:31.500
+maybe I'm not going to be so trusting next time.
+
+01:26:31.500 --> 01:26:32.500
+But I don't think they will.
+
+01:26:32.500 --> 01:26:33.500
+I don't know.
+
+01:26:33.500 --> 01:26:34.500
+I think you'd be surprised.
+
+01:26:34.500 --> 01:26:35.500
+I think people have learned from this.
+
+01:26:35.500 --> 01:26:38.500
+And I think people learned what to trust and what not to trust and to be skeptical.
+
+01:26:38.500 --> 01:26:40.500
+So I think people will be smarter the next time around.
+
+01:26:40.500 --> 01:26:42.500
+And my hope is that people are smart enough not to do the lockdowns.
+
+01:26:42.500 --> 01:26:44.500
+I mean, if you look at the lockdowns, pretty much some people got it.
+
+01:26:44.500 --> 01:26:45.500
+And unfortunately, it is somewhat partisan.
+
+01:26:45.500 --> 01:26:48.500
+The Republican states had less severe lockdowns and more quickly got out of it.
+
+01:26:48.500 --> 01:26:49.500
+The Democrat states didn't.
+
+01:26:49.500 --> 01:26:51.500
+I think it was Rasmussen did a poll of people.
+
+01:26:51.500 --> 01:26:52.500
+And it's amazing.
+
+01:26:52.500 --> 01:26:55.500
+If you poll people who identify as Democrats, a good half of them believe maybe you should
+
+01:26:55.500 --> 01:26:58.500
+put people in jail for not being vaccinated or they should be forcibly kept in their homes.
+
+01:26:58.500 --> 01:27:01.500
+So the authoritarianism or what I call the impulse to authoritarianism is strong.
+
+01:27:01.500 --> 01:27:03.500
+This seems to be divided between the parties.
+
+01:27:03.500 --> 01:27:05.500
+The sad thing is the left used to be good about civil rights.
+
+01:27:05.500 --> 01:27:09.500
+They used to be good about, you know, free spirit, free ideas, not having things be censored
+
+01:27:09.500 --> 01:27:10.500
+and unified by some kind of government authority.
+
+01:27:10.500 --> 01:27:12.500
+But we've really gotten away from that.
+
+01:27:12.500 --> 01:27:14.500
+Republicans are authoritarians about other things.
+
+01:27:14.500 --> 01:27:15.500
+I'm not saying the party is perfect.
+
+01:27:15.500 --> 01:27:17.500
+In fact, sometimes the pox on both parties may be the best answer.
+
+01:27:17.500 --> 01:27:20.500
+But on the COVID, I think it has been that the Republicans have tended to be more right
+
+01:27:20.500 --> 01:27:23.500
+than wrong and the Democrats have tended to be more restrictive on personal behavior.
+
+01:27:23.500 --> 01:27:24.500
+The big point in deception.
+
+01:27:24.500 --> 01:27:28.500
+I believed it when they, everybody was saying, came from animals, from bats.
+
+01:27:28.500 --> 01:27:31.500
+That's gathered in China for food.
+
+01:27:31.500 --> 01:27:33.500
+Probably 90% confident that the new coronavirus came from bats.
+
+01:27:33.500 --> 01:27:34.500
+I initially was there too.
+
+01:27:34.500 --> 01:27:36.500
+For New Alec, probably a lot of 2020.
+
+01:27:36.500 --> 01:27:39.500
+I did not spend a lot of time thinking about the origin because I knew the first SARS virus,
+
+01:27:39.500 --> 01:27:42.500
+which came out in 2003, 2004, came from animals, came from civits.
+
+01:27:42.500 --> 01:27:45.500
+When they tested the thing is the left used to be good about civil rights.
+
+01:27:45.500 --> 01:27:50.500
+They used to be good about, you know, free spirit, free ideas, not having things be censored
+
+01:27:50.500 --> 01:27:52.500
+and unified by some kind of government authority.
+
+01:27:52.500 --> 01:27:54.500
+But we've really gotten away from that.
+
+01:27:54.500 --> 01:27:56.500
+Republicans are authoritarians about other things.
+
+01:27:56.500 --> 01:27:58.500
+I'm not saying the party is perfect.
+
+01:27:58.500 --> 01:28:01.500
+In fact, sometimes the pox on both parties may be the best answer.
+
+01:28:01.500 --> 01:28:04.500
+But on the COVID, I think it has been that the Republicans have tended to be more right
+
+01:28:04.500 --> 01:28:07.500
+than wrong and the Democrats have tended to be more restrictive on personal behavior.
+
+01:28:07.500 --> 01:28:09.500
+The big point in deception.
+
+01:28:09.500 --> 01:28:14.500
+I believed it when they, everybody was saying, came from animals, from bats.
+
+01:28:14.500 --> 01:28:17.500
+That's gathered in China for food.
+
+01:28:17.500 --> 01:28:20.500
+Probably 90% confident that the new coronavirus came from bats.
+
+01:28:20.500 --> 01:28:22.500
+I initially was there too for the ballot.
+
+01:28:22.500 --> 01:28:23.500
+Probably a lot of 2020.
+
+01:28:23.500 --> 01:28:27.500
+I did not spend a lot of time thinking about the origin because I knew the first SARS virus,
+
+01:28:27.500 --> 01:28:31.500
+which came out in 2003, 2004, came from animals, came from civits.
+
+01:28:31.500 --> 01:28:34.500
+When they tested the handlers of the civits, they found an increased number of them had antibodies.
+
+01:28:34.500 --> 01:28:35.500
+They'd been having infections.
+
+01:28:35.500 --> 01:28:37.500
+MERS was another SARS virus.
+
+01:28:37.500 --> 01:28:39.500
+It came out and they found it in camels and they found a source.
+
+01:28:39.500 --> 01:28:41.500
+Each time they found the source though, within a few months.
+
+01:28:41.500 --> 01:28:44.500
+So after a few months in 2020, they didn't find an animal source.
+
+01:28:44.500 --> 01:28:48.500
+Then the big game reports of 80,000 animals being tested, no animals with it.
+
+01:28:48.500 --> 01:28:52.500
+Tested by China all over China because they were looking for an animal source.
+
+01:28:52.500 --> 01:28:55.500
+And you have to realize that the Chinese, while they may not always be honest,
+
+01:28:55.500 --> 01:28:59.500
+and they may not always be forthright, they had an incentive to try to find it if it was in animals
+
+01:28:59.500 --> 01:29:01.500
+because now the theory is that it came from a lab.
+
+01:29:01.500 --> 01:29:05.500
+So now it's sort of government sponsored, accidental, likely, but more related to the government.
+
+01:29:05.500 --> 01:29:07.500
+So if you're the Chinese government, you're looking for blame.
+
+01:29:07.500 --> 01:29:08.500
+Everybody knows it's starting to move on.
+
+01:29:08.500 --> 01:29:10.500
+You'd really want it to come from the wet market.
+
+01:29:10.500 --> 01:29:13.500
+But pretty much within three or four months, the CDC in China said it didn't.
+
+01:29:13.500 --> 01:29:16.500
+They were pretty certain it did not come from the wet market.
+
+01:29:16.500 --> 01:29:18.500
+So some other experts say, we're not sure.
+
+01:29:18.500 --> 01:29:20.500
+It may have come from animals.
+
+01:29:20.500 --> 01:29:22.500
+There's not a smoking gun that we can say with 100% certainty.
+
+01:29:22.500 --> 01:29:24.500
+There's a lot of evidence on both sides of the ledger.
+
+01:29:24.500 --> 01:29:28.500
+But the lack of an animal host, the lack of antibodies in animal handlers,
+
+01:29:28.500 --> 01:29:32.500
+the lack of diversity in the genetics of this.
+
+01:29:32.500 --> 01:29:37.500
+When an animal virus comes to healers, the lack of an animal host,
+
+01:29:37.500 --> 01:29:42.500
+the lack of antibodies in animal handlers, the lack of an animal host,
+
+01:29:42.500 --> 01:29:44.500
+the lack of antibodies in animal handlers,
+
+01:29:44.500 --> 01:29:47.500
+the lack of diversity in the genetics of this.
+
+01:29:47.500 --> 01:29:51.500
+When an animal virus comes to humans, it's not very infectious initially.
+
+01:29:51.500 --> 01:29:53.500
+So if it's in civits, it's very infectious in civits,
+
+01:29:53.500 --> 01:29:55.500
+because it's been circulating in this animal for a while.
+
+01:29:55.500 --> 01:29:58.500
+When it infects a human, it's more prone to be in the civits.
+
+01:29:58.500 --> 01:30:00.500
+So it's not very good at infecting other humans.
+
+01:30:00.500 --> 01:30:02.500
+So it does it again and again until it gets lucky.
+
+01:30:02.500 --> 01:30:05.500
+When it gets lucky, it gets in someone's body and it mutates
+
+01:30:05.500 --> 01:30:07.500
+and then becomes infectious to other humans.
+
+01:30:07.500 --> 01:30:09.500
+So what you find is diversity.
+
+01:30:09.500 --> 01:30:11.500
+You find all these leaps from animals to human.
+
+01:30:11.500 --> 01:30:14.500
+And so your original genetic diversity will be like one of your 30 different
+
+01:30:14.500 --> 01:30:16.500
+genetic sequences of viruses.
+
+01:30:16.500 --> 01:30:17.500
+What do we find with COVID?
+
+01:30:17.500 --> 01:30:19.500
+The original strain, it's single source.
+
+01:30:19.500 --> 01:30:22.500
+It's one genetic variety, wasn't mutating.
+
+01:30:22.500 --> 01:30:26.500
+When you have a single genetic homogenous genetic code for a virus,
+
+01:30:26.500 --> 01:30:28.500
+it looks like it came from one source.
+
+01:30:28.500 --> 01:30:30.500
+It looks like it came from the lab.
+
+01:30:30.500 --> 01:30:33.500
+It will have come from one clone.
+
+01:30:33.500 --> 01:30:35.500
+And that's the trick.
+
+01:30:35.500 --> 01:30:40.500
+If it comes from a wild source, it will have a diversity of sequences
+
+01:30:40.500 --> 01:30:44.500
+that can be summarized by a consensus sequence.
+
+01:30:44.500 --> 01:30:50.500
+But the consensus sequence may not actually exist in a complete form.
+
+01:30:50.500 --> 01:30:53.500
+And then they understand this.
+
+01:30:53.500 --> 01:30:58.500
+More importantly, they understand it well.
+
+01:30:58.500 --> 01:31:00.500
+They understand it with nanopore sequencing.
+
+01:31:00.500 --> 01:31:05.500
+They understand it from many experiments that have shown how these self-replicating
+
+01:31:06.500 --> 01:31:09.500
+RNA entities work in culture.
+
+01:31:09.500 --> 01:31:15.500
+The only way to get the purity level that we saw in these different places around the
+
+01:31:15.500 --> 01:31:18.500
+world is for it to have started from a single clone source.
+
+01:31:18.500 --> 01:31:23.500
+And then they had to make quantities of it, which is actually not that hard.
+
+01:31:23.500 --> 01:31:28.500
+And that's what makes the infectious clone ideas so wonderful.
+
+01:31:28.500 --> 01:31:30.500
+It doesn't require magic.
+
+01:31:30.500 --> 01:31:32.500
+It doesn't require new technology.
+
+01:31:33.500 --> 01:31:38.500
+It requires very little other than a sequence that you want to put somewhere.
+
+01:31:38.500 --> 01:31:43.500
+Maybe with your special epitopes that epivacs or someone else found as they worked for
+
+01:31:43.500 --> 01:31:50.500
+the DOD trying to find universal epitopes that stimulated T cells via the MHC presentation
+
+01:31:50.500 --> 01:31:52.500
+process.
+
+01:31:52.500 --> 01:31:57.500
+And they put a few of those epitopes into a hypothetical coronavirus that they put in a
+
+01:31:57.500 --> 01:32:02.500
+few different people that they knew they were going to sequence.
+
+01:32:02.500 --> 01:32:05.500
+And then they said, well, we found this spike protein.
+
+01:32:05.500 --> 01:32:09.500
+I guess we'll use the spike protein for our vaccine.
+
+01:32:09.500 --> 01:32:13.500
+Isn't it great how it works for like a five shots in a row?
+
+01:32:13.500 --> 01:32:16.500
+That's pretty special, isn't it?
+
+01:32:16.500 --> 01:32:22.500
+Maybe it's because there's a universal T cell epitope that they found back in 2005.
+
+01:32:23.500 --> 01:32:28.500
+It's been inserted into a relatively benign coronavirus that's in the background all over
+
+01:32:28.500 --> 01:32:37.500
+the world so that when they found it in certain places, they'd find that sequence.
+
+01:32:37.500 --> 01:32:42.500
+Can you imagine a scenario where there would be so much power and so much money at stake
+
+01:32:42.500 --> 01:32:49.500
+that instead of waiting for a pandemic to come, that they would have orchestrated one?
+
+01:32:53.500 --> 01:32:58.500
+So evil Chinese scientists in a lab funded by America?
+
+01:32:58.500 --> 01:33:01.500
+America funded it and I think it was maybe not done it with evil intentions.
+
+01:33:01.500 --> 01:33:05.500
+It was done with misguided notion that gain-of-function research was safe.
+
+01:33:05.500 --> 01:33:07.500
+And so many people explain gain-of-function research.
+
+01:33:07.500 --> 01:33:11.500
+Gain-of-function is when you take a virus that exists in nature and another virus in nature
+
+01:33:11.500 --> 01:33:13.500
+and you take part of one virus and stick it on to the other.
+
+01:33:13.500 --> 01:33:16.500
+So one of the things that they can do with coronavirus, they take an S protein, they
+
+01:33:16.500 --> 01:33:17.500
+stick it on another virus.
+
+01:33:17.500 --> 01:33:20.500
+But then they say, well, then let's see what it does to humans.
+
+01:33:20.500 --> 01:33:24.500
+Well, the thing is they sometimes create viruses that don't exist in nature that are now more
+
+01:33:24.500 --> 01:33:25.500
+infectious.
+
+01:33:25.500 --> 01:33:29.500
+They've gained the function of lethality or infectiousness by being combined in a lab.
+
+01:33:29.500 --> 01:33:32.500
+We know they were doing this and this is one of the things that we discover in the book
+
+01:33:32.500 --> 01:33:37.500
+and one of the things that we put out there, Fauci admits on February 1st of 2020 at the
+
+01:33:37.500 --> 01:33:41.500
+very beginning that they're doing gain-of-function research in the Wuhan labs and that we funded it.
+
+01:33:41.500 --> 01:33:46.500
+And the purpose of it is to let the virus thrive and then develop a vaccine, find a way to kill it.
+
+01:33:46.500 --> 01:33:47.500
+Probably.
+
+01:33:47.500 --> 01:33:48.500
+Just probably.
+
+01:33:48.500 --> 01:33:50.500
+But this is they were working on something like that.
+
+01:33:50.500 --> 01:33:55.500
+They were working on a vaccine, what they call a pan-coronav vaccine for all different types of
+
+01:33:55.500 --> 01:33:56.500
+coronaviruses, which is what COVID is.
+
+01:33:56.500 --> 01:33:59.500
+They were working on this vaccine and that it must have leaked out.
+
+01:33:59.500 --> 01:34:04.500
+Other information that supports this is we know that three people in the Wuhan lab run by Dr.
+
+01:34:04.500 --> 01:34:08.500
+She, three of her co-workers, got sick with the virus of unknown origin in November of 2019.
+
+01:34:08.500 --> 01:34:16.500
+So this would make sense if they were inserting epitopes into a clone of a coronavirus to try
+
+01:34:16.500 --> 01:34:24.500
+and increase its immunogenicity, to increase the likelihood that you would develop antibodies
+
+01:34:24.500 --> 01:34:30.500
+to the receptor binding domain of the spike protein and prevent its binding to its receptor,
+
+01:34:30.500 --> 01:34:31.500
+maybe.
+
+01:34:31.500 --> 01:34:38.500
+If we go along with all the elaborate details of the purported biology of the spike protein
+
+01:34:38.500 --> 01:34:43.500
+on this coronavirus, then we could tell that story.
+
+01:34:43.500 --> 01:34:50.500
+But it's a story that's a lot more complicated and yet a lot more simple than some magic virus
+
+01:34:50.500 --> 01:34:57.500
+that they were cutting and pasting together that got out in a laboratory and went from a few hundred
+
+01:34:57.500 --> 01:35:05.500
+million copies to trillions and trillions and trillions of copies over three years.
+
+01:35:05.500 --> 01:35:12.500
+Because the presumption is that there were a few people that were infected in Wuhan at some point
+
+01:35:12.500 --> 01:35:18.500
+and now there are a few million people infected every day.
+
+01:35:18.500 --> 01:35:24.500
+So how is that not possible if we didn't go from a few million viruses to trillions and trillions
+
+01:35:24.500 --> 01:35:27.500
+and trillions and trillions of this virus?
+
+01:35:27.500 --> 01:35:35.500
+The same sequence that wasn't there before, but it's there now.
+
+01:35:35.500 --> 01:35:40.500
+In your neighbors and in your school and in your doctor's office and at the mall
+
+01:35:40.500 --> 01:35:47.500
+and at the basketball game, but it wasn't there in 2019, not at all.
+
+01:35:47.500 --> 01:35:48.500
+It wasn't there at all.
+
+01:35:48.500 --> 01:35:55.500
+This signal was completely absent and then it got out at the Wuhan lab and a few people
+
+01:35:55.500 --> 01:36:02.500
+that did something, either they went to a Wuhan market and they got unlucky or they took
+
+01:36:02.500 --> 01:36:07.500
+a laboratory animal and sold it at the market or they made some soup out of a laboratory
+
+01:36:07.500 --> 01:36:12.500
+animal and then sold it at the market or they got sick in the lab and then they went
+
+01:36:12.500 --> 01:36:15.500
+to the market.
+
+01:36:15.500 --> 01:36:24.500
+But whatever story you're telling, it starts with a single group, even one infection.
+
+01:36:24.500 --> 01:36:33.500
+And then that lowly little swarm of RNA molecules coated in a lipid protein coat with spike
+
+01:36:33.500 --> 01:36:40.500
+proteins on the outside, managed to copy itself enough so that billions, billions of
+
+01:36:40.500 --> 01:36:51.500
+people were contacted by it, are continued to be contacted by its ancestors today, every
+
+01:36:51.500 --> 01:36:57.500
+day, and we can use PCR to test for them.
+
+01:36:57.500 --> 01:37:03.500
+And people still use lateral flow tests to test for them.
+
+01:37:03.500 --> 01:37:10.500
+And people still stay home because they say they got infected with them.
+
+01:37:10.500 --> 01:37:24.500
+Something made of RNA that leaked in Wuhan and then coated the planet.
+
+01:37:24.500 --> 01:37:27.500
+It's not possible, ladies and gentlemen, it's just not possible.
+
+01:37:27.500 --> 01:37:32.500
+These stories of fantastic biology are just stories.
+
+01:37:32.500 --> 01:37:33.500
+They are mythology.
+
+01:37:33.500 --> 01:37:40.500
+And Rand Paul may not be sophisticated enough to know how ridiculous it is to attribute these
+
+01:37:40.500 --> 01:37:45.500
+superpowers to an RNA in lipid.
+
+01:37:45.500 --> 01:37:48.500
+But that's what he's doing.
+
+01:37:48.500 --> 01:37:54.500
+You see, the thing is, is that all of these principles of a species like ecology and
+
+01:37:54.500 --> 01:38:01.500
+niche and pathogen and parasite and all these terms that we use to describe different kinds
+
+01:38:01.500 --> 01:38:06.500
+of animals and different niches and different ecological relationships like predator and
+
+01:38:06.500 --> 01:38:15.500
+prey, none of these biological concepts apply to viruses because viruses do not rise to
+
+01:38:15.500 --> 01:38:19.500
+the sophistication of species.
+
+01:38:19.500 --> 01:38:23.500
+Viruses are a phenomenon that are not well understood.
+
+01:38:23.500 --> 01:38:30.500
+They are a phenomenon that is not understood at the fidelity of a species like gray squirrel
+
+01:38:30.500 --> 01:38:35.500
+or a particular mosquito.
+
+01:38:35.500 --> 01:38:44.500
+And they don't have the same biological attributes as a pathogen in a insect pathogen on a squirrel
+
+01:38:44.500 --> 01:38:48.500
+like a tick.
+
+01:38:48.500 --> 01:38:57.500
+These are RNA and DNA-based phenomenon, molecular phenomenon, that as best we can discern are
+
+01:38:57.500 --> 01:39:04.500
+able to use our own cellular machinery to replicate themselves in the right circumstances.
+
+01:39:04.500 --> 01:39:11.500
+But our immune system has a wide variety of cells which are bent on destroying these
+
+01:39:11.500 --> 01:39:14.500
+short-lived patterned integrities.
+
+01:39:14.500 --> 01:39:20.500
+There are erroneous patterned integrities in the best characterization.
+
+01:39:20.500 --> 01:39:25.500
+But they cannot be considered something that has the fidelity and capability of something
+
+01:39:25.500 --> 01:39:30.500
+like a mosquito that can have babies and more babies and more babies until everybody's
+
+01:39:30.500 --> 01:39:33.500
+got mosquitoes everywhere.
+
+01:39:33.500 --> 01:39:40.500
+And even we know that if a mosquito was released in Wuhan and it could breed as fast as possible
+
+01:39:40.500 --> 01:39:44.500
+the mosquitoes that made it to Italy would not be the same mosquitoes that made it to
+
+01:39:44.500 --> 01:39:46.500
+America.
+
+01:39:46.500 --> 01:39:50.500
+They would have already diversified.
+
+01:39:50.500 --> 01:39:56.500
+And mosquitoes replicate with a lot higher fidelity than an RNA virus does.
+
+01:39:56.500 --> 01:40:04.500
+It makes a complete new genome every time it successfully manages to copy itself,
+
+01:40:04.500 --> 01:40:07.500
+which it doesn't do very often.
+
+01:40:07.500 --> 01:40:11.500
+Because as the virologist will say, well, we need a lot more of the subgenomic RNA than
+
+01:40:11.500 --> 01:40:12.500
+we do the genomic RNA.
+
+01:40:12.500 --> 01:40:15.500
+That's why we can barely find any genomic RNA.
+
+01:40:15.500 --> 01:40:20.500
+And we find all these extra subgenomic RNAs because all these other proteins need to be
+
+01:40:20.500 --> 01:40:21.500
+made a lot more.
+
+01:40:21.500 --> 01:40:25.500
+We need to make a lot more spike protein and a lot more N protein.
+
+01:40:25.500 --> 01:40:34.500
+That's why we have 600,000 copies of the N protein RNA and 100,000 copies of the spike
+
+01:40:34.500 --> 01:40:39.500
+protein RNA and only 11 genomes.
+
+01:40:39.500 --> 01:40:42.500
+Because we need a lot more spike protein than we need whole genomes.
+
+01:40:42.500 --> 01:40:44.500
+So that's why they're really hard to detect.
+
+01:40:44.500 --> 01:40:49.500
+We barely find any anywhere ever.
+
+01:40:49.500 --> 01:40:55.500
+These are the kinds of excuses that they make and the kinds of stories that they tell about
+
+01:40:55.500 --> 01:41:01.500
+the fidelity of a virus that can possibly start in one city in the world and manage to coat
+
+01:41:01.500 --> 01:41:11.500
+the universe, coat the known world with itself.
+
+01:41:11.500 --> 01:41:14.500
+That's some pretty extraordinary molecular biology right there.
+
+01:41:14.500 --> 01:41:18.500
+And Rand Paul is pretty extraordinarily certain that it happened.
+
+01:41:18.500 --> 01:41:22.500
+They never revealed this, but it's been found out through some intelligence means.
+
+01:41:22.500 --> 01:41:26.500
+We do know now that the virus actually started and the first case is patient zero basically
+
+01:41:26.500 --> 01:41:27.500
+is in her lab.
+
+01:41:27.500 --> 01:41:31.500
+And that was more than a thousand kilometers away from where bats live.
+
+01:41:31.500 --> 01:41:34.500
+Exactly. It's six to eight hours by car south when you find the bats.
+
+01:41:34.500 --> 01:41:38.500
+But this gets back to the question of evil versus just bad sense or bad judgment.
+
+01:41:38.500 --> 01:41:43.500
+If viruses exist, let's say they exist 300 feet below the level in guano in a cave.
+
+01:41:43.500 --> 01:41:46.500
+The likelihood that that virus 300 feet under the ground in a remote air of China is going to
+
+01:41:46.500 --> 01:41:49.500
+interact with a lot of people and cause a pandemic, virtually zero.
+
+01:41:49.500 --> 01:41:52.500
+But what if we send virus hunters 300 feet down into the cave, they extract the virus,
+
+01:41:52.500 --> 01:41:55.500
+bring it back to a metropolitan area of 15 million people.
+
+01:41:55.500 --> 01:41:59.500
+There's a chance that somewhere in that transmission, the virus leaks out that never
+
+01:41:59.500 --> 01:42:01.500
+would have encountered man, but it's worse.
+
+01:42:01.500 --> 01:42:04.500
+They take this unknown virus, they bring it back to Wuhan 15 million people and they say,
+
+01:42:04.500 --> 01:42:06.500
+yeah, this is a new virus, a new coronavirus.
+
+01:42:06.500 --> 01:42:08.500
+What would happen if we mixed it with this other coronavirus?
+
+01:42:08.500 --> 01:42:11.500
+So the whole virus identification project, which has been going on for life.
+
+01:42:11.500 --> 01:42:15.500
+So the viruses have the potential to do the evil.
+
+01:42:15.500 --> 01:42:22.500
+It's not making lots of copies of this RNA that can't copy itself with eye fidelity.
+
+01:42:22.500 --> 01:42:28.500
+And then letting that copy out, it wouldn't be transfecting people with some of these
+
+01:42:28.500 --> 01:42:31.500
+viral proteins and seeing what happens in large quantities.
+
+01:42:31.500 --> 01:42:36.500
+It wouldn't be making large copies, at large quantities of these RNAs that they find at
+
+01:42:36.500 --> 01:42:37.500
+the bottom of the bat cave.
+
+01:42:37.500 --> 01:42:43.500
+It's just taking that RNA out of the cave because the RNA itself is magic.
+
+01:42:43.500 --> 01:42:50.500
+It has nothing to do with the fact that the people have to make a large quantity of it
+
+01:42:50.500 --> 01:42:52.500
+or they can do anything with it in the laboratory.
+
+01:42:52.500 --> 01:42:58.500
+There's nothing to do with that so much so that we don't even have to use the term clone.
+
+01:42:58.500 --> 01:43:04.500
+Even though that's how they work with these RNA entities, they have to make a clone of it.
+
+01:43:04.500 --> 01:43:10.500
+You can't grow it.
+
+01:43:10.500 --> 01:43:15.500
+And so here we are talking about finding viruses in a bat cave, coming back and sewing them
+
+01:43:15.500 --> 01:43:20.500
+into different parts and not admitting that if we're going to sew two parts of a virus
+
+01:43:20.500 --> 01:43:22.500
+together, a virus sequence together.
+
+01:43:22.500 --> 01:43:29.500
+And the only way we can find out how that work is to make a clone.
+
+01:43:29.500 --> 01:43:33.500
+You can't sew it together unless you make a clone.
+
+01:43:33.500 --> 01:43:37.500
+It's literally the way you would do it.
+
+01:43:37.500 --> 01:43:44.500
+You would make a DNA construct of the RNA that you thought you found in the wild, which is called a clone.
+
+01:43:45.500 --> 01:43:52.500
+And then you can grow that DNA clone into huge quantities in commercial processes that were the same
+
+01:43:52.500 --> 01:43:58.500
+commercial processes that are used to make monoclonal antibodies and were used to make the spike protein
+
+01:43:58.500 --> 01:44:03.500
+RNA for the shots and used to make the spike protein for the protein.
+
+01:44:03.500 --> 01:44:08.500
+I mean, it's all the same crap.
+
+01:44:08.500 --> 01:44:11.500
+Bacteria will copy circular DNA.
+
+01:44:11.500 --> 01:44:14.500
+You encode the RNA that you want to make in the circular DNA.
+
+01:44:14.500 --> 01:44:20.500
+Let the Bacteria make lots of copies of the DNA, had relatively high fidelity because DNA
+
+01:44:20.500 --> 01:44:21.500
+copying is high fidelity.
+
+01:44:21.500 --> 01:44:29.500
+Then you take all that DNA out of the bacteria, has best you can, and convert it via enzyme to RNA.
+
+01:44:29.500 --> 01:44:34.500
+That conversion is not perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better and a hell of a lot more quantity
+
+01:44:34.500 --> 01:44:41.500
+of any RNA approximating the original protein or the original genome that you want to have,
+
+01:44:41.500 --> 01:44:48.500
+the stitch together, gain a function genome in more quantities than you could ever make in any other
+
+01:44:48.500 --> 01:44:50.500
+fashion.
+
+01:44:50.500 --> 01:44:57.500
+In fact, this is the only way that we know how we could make it in any quantity this fashion.
+
+01:44:57.500 --> 01:45:00.500
+Infectious clones.
+
+01:45:00.500 --> 01:45:03.500
+Otherwise, it's not dangerous at all.
+
+01:45:03.500 --> 01:45:08.500
+Otherwise, at best, the infectious clone will make somebody sick.
+
+01:45:08.500 --> 01:45:12.500
+And that person will shed some RNA on somebody else and they'll get sick.
+
+01:45:12.500 --> 01:45:20.500
+And then by that time, that RNA isn't copying itself well enough anymore.
+
+01:45:20.500 --> 01:45:22.500
+And there ends the pandemic.
+
+01:45:22.500 --> 01:45:24.500
+That's probably what happened with SARS-1.
+
+01:45:24.500 --> 01:45:26.500
+It was an infectious clone, a certain quantity of it.
+
+01:45:26.500 --> 01:45:31.500
+It got out, and those people were able to carry it and spread it around and spread it around a little bit.
+
+01:45:31.500 --> 01:45:34.500
+Why not?
+
+01:45:34.500 --> 01:45:41.500
+And every time it went from a different person, it changed at least 50 amino acids in the sequence they could detect.
+
+01:45:41.500 --> 01:45:45.500
+It's not the variation he's talking about.
+
+01:45:45.500 --> 01:45:50.500
+The variation should have been from patient to patient to patient, and it wasn't.
+
+01:45:50.500 --> 01:45:55.500
+There wasn't any variation from patient to patient, which tells you one thing and one thing only.
+
+01:45:55.500 --> 01:45:58.500
+It had to be a clone.
+
+01:45:58.500 --> 01:46:07.500
+Because it was a naturally replicating virus, every patient would have had a pretty different signal.
+
+01:46:07.500 --> 01:46:09.500
+And that would have petered out very quickly.
+
+01:46:09.500 --> 01:46:22.500
+It would have gone in a million different directions genetically, very quickly, and petered out because that's what SARS-CoV-1 did.
+
+01:46:22.500 --> 01:46:28.500
+The story is so full of holes, they have to simplify it to a cartoon.
+
+01:46:28.500 --> 01:46:33.500
+And that cartoon is what Rand Paul has learned to recite.
+
+01:46:33.500 --> 01:46:39.500
+About ten years or more, hundreds of millions of dollars have gone into this US dollars has been not just to identify every virus on the planet,
+
+01:46:39.500 --> 01:46:44.500
+but to identify it and then do gain-of-function research to manipulate it to see what happens.
+
+01:46:44.500 --> 01:46:45.500
+And there are legitimate scientists.
+
+01:46:45.500 --> 01:46:51.500
+There's Kevin Esvelte, who we quote in the book from MIT, who says that basically this is a risk to civilization.
+
+01:46:51.500 --> 01:46:58.500
+So Kevin Esvelte of MIT has written the gate-of-function research looks like a gamble that civilization can't afford to risk.
+
+01:46:58.500 --> 01:47:12.500
+Kevin Esvelte, the guy who working for MIT Media Labs and working for the Department of Defense through various connections has developed the gene drive,
+
+01:47:12.500 --> 01:47:19.500
+is saying that gain-of-function research looks like a gamble that civilization can't afford to risk.
+
+01:47:19.500 --> 01:47:27.500
+I'm going to tell you right now that this is the best confirmation that gain-of-function research is a mythology that they could have ever rolled out
+
+01:47:27.500 --> 01:47:32.500
+and that he could have ever accentuated by highlighting it in his book.
+
+01:47:32.500 --> 01:47:36.500
+Because Kevin Esvelte is the perfecter of the gene drive.
+
+01:47:36.500 --> 01:47:41.500
+So the gene drive was actually invented by somebody else, but Kevin Esvelte got his brain around it
+
+01:47:41.500 --> 01:47:50.500
+and was able to perfect it in a way that basically allows them to change species.
+
+01:47:50.500 --> 01:48:01.500
+Now they are sort of limited by the replication rate, the reproductive rate of a species, but they can create genes that really edit themselves in
+
+01:48:01.500 --> 01:48:06.500
+and are very aggressive in that sense, hyper-dominant.
+
+01:48:06.500 --> 01:48:13.500
+And I've been trying to slowly but surely teach myself the biology of these things in a cartoon form so that I can teach you.
+
+01:48:13.500 --> 01:48:29.500
+And so either by the end of the year or in the coming, you know, after the new year, some of the subjects that we're going to cover are these interesting biotechnology applications
+
+01:48:29.500 --> 01:48:47.500
+like directed evolution for enzymes, which is also coincidentally another technology which Kevin Esvelte has been really a leader and a pioneer in conceiving the ways that bacterial, metabolic enzyme pathways
+
+01:48:47.500 --> 01:49:08.500
+and genetic antibiotic resistance and culture techniques can be combined in very clever ways to use the power of bacterial evolution essentially
+
+01:49:08.500 --> 01:49:18.500
+to create enzymes with attributes that we want them to have and to do it very, very well.
+
+01:49:18.500 --> 01:49:34.500
+So Kevin Esvelte is an incredibly interesting person to quote and to get on this senatorial committee in 2020 along with Richard Ebright, who is a magnificent tool of this narrative.
+
+01:49:34.500 --> 01:49:48.500
+Richard Ebright is the guy who said if we opened colleges in 2020 that we would kill a quarter million people and Richard Ebright is really one of the worst of the narrative holders of this gain of function research is going to kill the world.
+
+01:49:48.500 --> 01:50:09.500
+And him and Kevin Esvelte testified in front of Congress about this super danger of gain of function research all the while both knowing that Kevin Esvelte was like the master, the Jedi master of dark arts of biology, the directed evolution and gene drives,
+
+01:50:09.500 --> 01:50:31.500
+which is just extraordinary. It's really, really can only be seen as some kind of intellectual warfare to use him as this messenger is really like using a serial killer to say that the, I don't know that the vaccine schedules dangerous for kids.
+
+01:50:31.500 --> 01:50:40.500
+I mean, it's, it's crazy for him to say that gain of function research is a gamble that civilization can't afford to risk while he's working on gene drives.
+
+01:50:40.500 --> 01:50:50.500
+Like it's just extraordinary to me. And now I'm sure that we're about to say that Kevin Esvelte would say that billions of people could be killed by the next virus.
+
+01:50:50.500 --> 01:50:57.500
+We could wind up with a virus that's 50% lethal that leaks out of a lab. There it is. Holy cow and like one second. Look at that.
+
+01:50:57.500 --> 01:51:07.500
+MIT who says that basically this is a risk civilization because we could wind up with a virus that's 50% lethal that leaks out of a lab and kills half of the planet that literally is a possibility.
+
+01:51:07.500 --> 01:51:17.500
+That's literally not a possibility. It's literally not a possibility. The only possibility is that we could make enough of an RNA that was toxic that would do that.
+
+01:51:17.500 --> 01:51:29.500
+That we could make enough of a toxin that would do that. We could make enough of a protein toxin and RNA toxin. Maybe there's even a DNA sequence or application that DNA could also be used to do this.
+
+01:51:29.500 --> 01:51:32.500
+Like an adenovirus.
+
+01:51:32.500 --> 01:51:43.500
+I'm sure we could make enough, but there is not a small, you know, little vial of this 50% deadly virus is enough to kill the whole planet.
+
+01:51:43.500 --> 01:51:55.500
+That's just that's just complete immunomethology. And it is nothing. It's not even immunomethology with regards to that's not how viruses work.
+
+01:51:55.500 --> 01:52:05.500
+You know, they kill their host and then it won't spread. That argument is dumb. The real argument is that RNA doesn't have the fidelity to do that.
+
+01:52:05.500 --> 01:52:12.500
+If mother nature were to stumble upon a super deadly RNA, it wouldn't last long enough to kill that many people.
+
+01:52:12.500 --> 01:52:16.500
+It might kill. I don't know. I could imagine.
+
+01:52:16.500 --> 01:52:28.500
+If I really run my simulator in my head to the fullest, I can imagine a scenario where a whole village of people might be killed by a virus that was in a monkey that somebody ate.
+
+01:52:28.500 --> 01:52:42.500
+Maybe 30 people. But unless there was a quantity of it, a quantity of it, then it's not possible for an RNA virus to do that, to accomplish it.
+
+01:52:42.500 --> 01:52:49.500
+It's just not possible. The human immune system is not that kind of a, it's not.
+
+01:52:50.500 --> 01:53:05.500
+It's just extraordinary that we have been led to believe this, that they are trying to mislead our children to believe this and we cannot let it happen because they are essentially, they are desecrating the image of our body.
+
+01:53:06.500 --> 01:53:24.500
+The image in our own minds about our body and its weaknesses and its strengths and its sacredness, they are just absolutely ruining this for our children and it's wrong.
+
+01:53:25.500 --> 01:53:42.500
+It's wrong to the deepest core and the fact that they're having this discussion pretending that they're having a real, this is the worst kind of sacrilege that there is because they have not once acknowledged the lying.
+
+01:53:42.500 --> 01:53:46.500
+It's mistakes, they didn't mean it. I think they all meant well.
+
+01:53:46.500 --> 01:54:00.500
+These are all things that they said. It's not very much different than that college professor that said I was also really down for the lockdowns, but we got to have some, you know, whatever sympathy going forward or some crap like that.
+
+01:54:01.500 --> 01:54:14.500
+Liars don't deserve sympathy. People that were absolute monsters don't deserve sympathy unless they're really apologizing, not kind of sorry.
+
+01:54:17.500 --> 01:54:23.500
+They're trying to find ways to stop disease, but many scientists have now looked at this and said that we haven't found it.
+
+01:54:24.500 --> 01:54:38.500
+The other argument against this is that when you create viruses in the lab, evolution is random, and so when a virus or a dangerous virus evolves, it does it through random mutation, and then something we get an unlucky one and it takes off.
+
+01:54:38.500 --> 01:54:44.500
+If you create it in the virus in the lab, it's not random, it's man-made, and you say I'm doing this so I can discover what's going to come from nature.
+
+01:54:44.500 --> 01:54:52.500
+Well, because it's random and there are millions of different combinations that could happen, the likelihood that you create something that creates a vaccine that's going to help anybody is pretty slim to none.
+
+01:54:53.500 --> 01:55:02.500
+Not if you're looking for universal epitopes that activate T cells just in general, and then you're putting it in other proteins so that you can make other vaccines.
+
+01:55:03.500 --> 01:55:15.500
+I mean, activating the immune system is a multi-billion dollar industry every year that's completely free of strict liability. It's the best business on the planet.
+
+01:55:15.500 --> 01:55:31.500
+So the more risk that we can create perceived in nature for the requirement of vaccines, the more danger that Mother Nature poses to us, the more danger that gain a function in a laboratory, the more danger that gain a function in a garage.
+
+01:55:32.500 --> 01:55:39.500
+Poses to us the more likely we are to accept the idea that vaccines are a cure for these things.
+
+01:55:39.500 --> 01:55:44.500
+Antibodies. Yada yada yada.
+
+01:55:44.500 --> 01:55:55.500
+This is the trap, ladies and gentlemen, it is being laid right before you by the guy who started laying it in 2020 just like he was meant to do.
+
+01:55:55.500 --> 01:55:59.500
+We are being governed by lies.
+
+01:56:01.500 --> 01:56:05.500
+And it's probably pretty likely that he knows.
+
+01:56:05.500 --> 01:56:09.500
+It's probably pretty likely that he knows.
+
+01:56:09.500 --> 01:56:19.500
+For COVID, it really started in 2010 with the avian flu. The avian flu is from chickens and birds, and it's very deadly when it gets into humans 50% mortality, but it's not very contagious.
+
+01:56:19.500 --> 01:56:25.500
+So a guy in the Netherlands said, why don't we see if we can aerosolize it, make it transmitted by air, even though it's not normally transmitted that way.
+
+01:56:25.500 --> 01:56:32.500
+And people said, that's crazy. And he did it. And then there was a discussion over whether the knowledge should be published because it might become a roadmap for chair.
+
+01:56:33.500 --> 01:56:51.500
+In 2011, and we're talking about Carriaca, or whatever his name was at the University of Madison in Wisconsin, University of Wisconsin in Madison, that supposedly enriched avian flu to be aerosolized, but one did it.
+
+01:56:51.500 --> 01:56:59.500
+And again, this was a controversy. This was a thing that in the Netherlands and in America, they made a big stink about it.
+
+01:56:59.500 --> 01:57:10.500
+But it was also the perfect theater, again, to remind people that this potential is there, that this work is being done. Don't forget, we're going to make a big show about it now. We're going to have a few secret meetings.
+
+01:57:10.500 --> 01:57:17.500
+We're going to get a bunch of people to do a conference. We're going to invite everybody over the Netherlands and we're going to have a big argument and discussion about it.
+
+01:57:17.500 --> 01:57:22.500
+We're going to bring big Tony Fauci over to the Netherlands and he's going to be on stage.
+
+01:57:23.500 --> 01:57:34.500
+And all of that pomp and circumstance creates an illusion of consensus that, holy man, we're really walking on a prep of precipice here. What if they create a bird flu that's also aerosolized.
+
+01:57:34.500 --> 01:57:41.500
+I can fly around the world and kill 50% of the people it infects. Oh my gosh.
+
+01:57:41.500 --> 01:57:52.500
+What if they make a little tiny bit of a bunch of RNAs and what if that little tiny bit of RNA gets out?
+
+01:57:52.500 --> 01:58:01.500
+That little tiny bit of RNA might copy itself and go all around the world and kill 50% of the people that it copies itself in.
+
+01:58:01.500 --> 01:58:09.500
+Except that's not how RNA works. That's not how RNA copying works and that's not how immune systems work.
+
+01:58:09.500 --> 01:58:20.500
+But with a little bit of showmanship and a little bit of news flash and a little bit of headlines and a lot of air travel and hot air on stage.
+
+01:58:20.500 --> 01:58:35.500
+You can create the illusion that in these bad caves and in these laboratories exists the possibility of killing 50% of the people of everyone that this RNA replicates in.
+
+01:58:35.500 --> 01:58:41.500
+And that the RNA can replicate in anything that it touches.
+
+01:58:41.500 --> 01:58:46.500
+And if you have never seen it before, you can't fight it.
+
+01:58:46.500 --> 01:58:52.500
+These are all proclamations of a faith that is false.
+
+01:58:52.500 --> 01:58:59.500
+These are all proclamations of a biology that doesn't exist.
+
+01:58:59.500 --> 01:59:05.500
+These are all proclamations of a faith that is based on lies.
+
+01:59:05.500 --> 01:59:08.500
+Stop lying!
+
+01:59:09.500 --> 01:59:11.500
+To create this kind of virus.
+
+01:59:11.500 --> 01:59:13.500
+And so Anthony Fauci was on one side.
+
+01:59:13.500 --> 01:59:18.500
+And Richard E. Bright and the other scientist from the other side had a big war on Anthony Fauci won, like he's won so many times.
+
+01:59:18.500 --> 01:59:24.500
+And he said 2012, even if a pandemic occurs, if a scientist becomes infected and the community becomes infected, the knowledge is worth it.
+
+01:59:24.500 --> 01:59:28.500
+Well that's a judgment call and I would say there's probably 16 million families around the world who might disagree with that now.
+
+01:59:28.500 --> 01:59:30.500
+But this is a real debate that has to be had.
+
+01:59:30.500 --> 01:59:31.500
+It's all funded by government.
+
+01:59:31.500 --> 01:59:33.500
+Whether government should have some regulations on what they find.
+
+01:59:33.500 --> 01:59:37.500
+I think without question we should regulate government more to have more scrutiny over this.
+
+01:59:37.500 --> 01:59:39.500
+There's still funding, gain and function research.
+
+01:59:39.500 --> 01:59:40.500
+Yeah, absolutely.
+
+01:59:40.500 --> 01:59:42.500
+There's 12 different places in the United States that we do this.
+
+01:59:42.500 --> 01:59:46.500
+There are some labs that we're not even allowed to go into that we're petitioning to try to find out about this.
+
+01:59:46.500 --> 01:59:49.500
+But there's one other important thing that happened in this and it adds to the culpability.
+
+01:59:49.500 --> 01:59:51.500
+It wasn't just a bad decision of Anthony Fauci.
+
+01:59:51.500 --> 01:59:52.500
+There was a Paul.
+
+01:59:52.500 --> 01:59:53.500
+It's between 2014 and 16.
+
+01:59:53.500 --> 01:59:54.500
+This was so dangerous.
+
+01:59:54.500 --> 01:59:56.500
+They said no more gain and function research.
+
+01:59:56.500 --> 01:59:57.500
+And yet it kept happening.
+
+01:59:57.500 --> 01:59:58.500
+How did they get these agencies?
+
+01:59:58.500 --> 02:00:02.500
+Our government stopped the funding of gain and function research from 2014 to 16.
+
+02:00:02.500 --> 02:00:05.500
+And yet many of these things that we were on were still going on through this who approved them.
+
+02:00:05.500 --> 02:00:07.500
+But they also set up a committee.
+
+02:00:07.500 --> 02:00:09.500
+In 2017, they turned the spigot back on.
+
+02:00:09.500 --> 02:00:13.500
+In January of 2017, gain and function is now going to be funded once again.
+
+02:00:13.500 --> 02:00:16.500
+But as they turn it on, it's like they set up a committee.
+
+02:00:16.500 --> 02:00:18.500
+And this committee is supposed to see all dangerous research and say,
+
+02:00:18.500 --> 02:00:19.500
+is it dangerous?
+
+02:00:19.500 --> 02:00:20.500
+Should we let it happen?
+
+02:00:20.500 --> 02:00:22.500
+None of the Wuhan research went before there.
+
+02:00:22.500 --> 02:00:25.500
+So when I question Fauci and committee, he says, all my people, up and down,
+
+02:00:25.500 --> 02:00:27.500
+all 12 dozens of experts tell me it's not gain and function.
+
+02:00:27.500 --> 02:00:29.500
+It's like, where's the discussion?
+
+02:00:29.500 --> 02:00:31.500
+Have you ever heard of a government discussion where there's no paperwork?
+
+02:00:31.500 --> 02:00:33.500
+And why didn't it go before the committee?
+
+02:00:33.500 --> 02:00:35.500
+And then I'm at the person who's in charge of the safety committee.
+
+02:00:35.500 --> 02:00:37.500
+He said he only looked at three studies over like a four-year period.
+
+02:00:37.500 --> 02:00:38.500
+And I said, why?
+
+02:00:38.500 --> 02:00:40.500
+He says, I didn't have the ability to go out and look at studies.
+
+02:00:40.500 --> 02:00:41.500
+It had to be self-referred.
+
+02:00:41.500 --> 02:00:42.500
+People had to volunteer.
+
+02:00:42.500 --> 02:00:44.500
+I think I'm doing gain and function research.
+
+02:00:44.500 --> 02:00:45.500
+Would you look at it?
+
+02:00:45.500 --> 02:00:47.500
+And he looked at three and I think they turned down one or two out of three.
+
+02:00:47.500 --> 02:00:49.500
+But this was exempted from the safety committee.
+
+02:00:49.500 --> 02:00:51.500
+It could have only been done with Anthony Fauci's permission.
+
+02:00:51.500 --> 02:00:53.500
+I think we are eventually going to find paperwork.
+
+02:00:53.500 --> 02:00:54.500
+We haven't got it yet.
+
+02:00:54.500 --> 02:00:57.500
+We're going to find paperwork that shows Anthony Fauci gave permission for the
+
+02:00:57.500 --> 02:01:00.500
+research to happen in Wuhan without scrutiny by the safety committee.
+
+02:01:00.500 --> 02:01:03.500
+The media is weird.
+
+02:01:03.500 --> 02:01:04.500
+It's perplexing.
+
+02:01:04.500 --> 02:01:09.500
+Democrats in Congress and the allies in the media are always curious about things killing people.
+
+02:01:09.500 --> 02:01:10.500
+You know, danger, safety.
+
+02:01:10.500 --> 02:01:14.500
+So I've been to at least a dozen hearings on whether a chemical in plastic causes cancer,
+
+02:01:14.500 --> 02:01:15.500
+which I think probably isn't true.
+
+02:01:15.500 --> 02:01:17.500
+But the Democrats are gaga over.
+
+02:01:17.500 --> 02:01:20.500
+It's like, I can't remember the name of the chemical now, but it's like in baby bottles.
+
+02:01:20.500 --> 02:01:22.500
+It's in milk, but it's in all this plastic.
+
+02:01:22.500 --> 02:01:23.500
+And they think it causes cancer.
+
+02:01:23.500 --> 02:01:25.500
+But may or may not, and I'm not against studying whether it does.
+
+02:01:25.500 --> 02:01:27.500
+But at the same time, they're curious about this.
+
+02:01:27.500 --> 02:01:31.500
+Now we have a disease that killed maybe 16 million people worldwide, about a million people.
+
+02:01:31.500 --> 02:01:35.500
+16 million people worldwide were killed by this disease.
+
+02:01:35.500 --> 02:01:39.500
+And he's making fun of the Democrats because they're worried about chemicals in plastic,
+
+02:01:39.500 --> 02:01:44.500
+but they're not worried about this disease that killed millions of people around the world.
+
+02:01:44.500 --> 02:01:47.500
+Tell me this is not about a faith.
+
+02:01:47.500 --> 02:01:50.500
+Tell me this is not about a faith.
+
+02:01:50.500 --> 02:01:55.500
+Tell me this is not about preserving a narrative about a novel virus that killed millions of people
+
+02:01:55.500 --> 02:02:00.500
+that we save millions more and that is likely from gain of function and therefore could come again
+
+02:02:00.500 --> 02:02:02.500
+if we don't do something drastic.
+
+02:02:02.500 --> 02:02:06.500
+But we don't want to lock down or anything like that unless, of course, maybe it's 50% lethal,
+
+02:02:06.500 --> 02:02:09.500
+and we might have to.
+
+02:02:09.500 --> 02:02:11.500
+This is the narrative.
+
+02:02:11.500 --> 02:02:12.500
+This is the trap.
+
+02:02:12.500 --> 02:02:15.500
+This is not someone trying to save us.
+
+02:02:15.500 --> 02:02:21.500
+This is the person and part of the narrative trap that we were led into from the very beginning
+
+02:02:21.500 --> 02:02:26.500
+when he was first arguing with Fauci in Congress.
+
+02:02:26.500 --> 02:02:31.500
+A million people in America.
+
+02:02:31.500 --> 02:02:36.500
+Charles Rixi's been saying that for more than a year and a half, a million people in America,
+
+02:02:36.500 --> 02:02:39.500
+and they're not curious as to how we got it and whether it could happen again.
+
+02:02:39.500 --> 02:02:45.500
+But that is one of my goals is to create legislation that more strictly regulates gain of function research
+
+02:02:45.500 --> 02:02:46.500
+being funded by our government.
+
+02:02:46.500 --> 02:02:50.500
+This company, EcoHealth Alliance, most Americans haven't heard of it.
+
+02:02:50.500 --> 02:02:54.500
+They were able to accumulate maybe over a hundred million dollars in U.S. taxpayer dollars
+
+02:02:54.500 --> 02:02:56.500
+and a lot of it was funneled to Wuhan.
+
+02:02:56.500 --> 02:03:00.500
+Interestingly, in 2020, when the virus comes out and the pandemic starting to spread,
+
+02:03:00.500 --> 02:03:02.500
+within a month or two, there's a letter to Lancet.
+
+02:03:02.500 --> 02:03:06.500
+And in the letter, they say that anybody that's saying that this was a, could have come from the lab
+
+02:03:06.500 --> 02:03:09.500
+as a conspiracy theorist and not to be trusted and 20 people signed it.
+
+02:03:09.500 --> 02:03:12.500
+But it was led by a guy named Peter Desak who ran EcoHealth.
+
+02:03:12.500 --> 02:03:14.500
+He never admitted that he had a conflict of interest.
+
+02:03:14.500 --> 02:03:17.500
+Eventually, Lancet caught him and there was an apology made.
+
+02:03:17.500 --> 02:03:19.500
+But from the very beginning, and I've never heard of before.
+
+02:03:19.500 --> 02:03:24.500
+But it's just so sad because Stanley Perlman was on that.
+
+02:03:24.500 --> 02:03:25.500
+Jeremy Ferrar was on that.
+
+02:03:25.500 --> 02:03:28.500
+They all knew that it was a lab leak was possible.
+
+02:03:28.500 --> 02:03:33.500
+It's not, it isn't, they all knew that they were working with Peter Desak.
+
+02:03:33.500 --> 02:03:35.500
+They all knew who Peter Desak was.
+
+02:03:35.500 --> 02:03:38.500
+It's not like Peter Desak is the guy who gets busted here.
+
+02:03:38.500 --> 02:03:42.500
+It's all those people on that paper should be busted.
+
+02:03:42.500 --> 02:03:46.500
+All those people had a vested interest in this not being a lab leak.
+
+02:03:46.500 --> 02:03:49.500
+Stanley Perlman knew it was a lab leak if it was anything.
+
+02:03:49.500 --> 02:03:52.500
+He knew it had to come from a lab the way that people were acting.
+
+02:03:52.500 --> 02:03:59.500
+And the only reason why he would say that it's not a lab leak is because he knew that probably nothing was actually in circulation.
+
+02:03:59.500 --> 02:04:05.500
+And a lot of those people probably knew that there wasn't actually anything in circulation.
+
+02:04:05.500 --> 02:04:15.500
+And so the reason why you write a denial like that is so that people will argue about the denial instead of arguing about the fact that there might not be anything in circulation.
+
+02:04:16.500 --> 02:04:19.500
+It might just be a conflated background signal.
+
+02:04:19.500 --> 02:04:24.500
+And so if it's a conflated background signal, are you really lying if you say it's not a lab leak?
+
+02:04:24.500 --> 02:04:26.500
+No, you're not.
+
+02:04:28.500 --> 02:04:34.500
+And that's why all those people signed it because it was a national security event.
+
+02:04:34.500 --> 02:04:36.500
+It's a national security theater.
+
+02:04:38.500 --> 02:04:42.500
+And maybe we're double crossing our allies.
+
+02:04:42.500 --> 02:04:46.500
+Maybe our allies are double crossing us in this global theater.
+
+02:04:47.500 --> 02:04:52.500
+Maybe we're still trying to figure out which of our allies have double crossed us in this theater.
+
+02:04:54.500 --> 02:04:57.500
+Maybe we still think we're double crossing one of our allies, but we're not.
+
+02:04:57.500 --> 02:05:00.500
+We're actually getting double crossed and we haven't figured it out yet.
+
+02:05:01.500 --> 02:05:11.500
+It could be a lot more complicated than just Chinese people lying about American people lying about embezzling money for gain of function research and back cave viruses.
+
+02:05:13.500 --> 02:05:26.500
+And it's certainly a lot more complicated than a back cave virus being brought back to a laboratory and then leaked into a market and then spreading around the world all by itself.
+
+02:05:27.500 --> 02:05:34.500
+This scientist talking about a conspiracy theory, and it turns out that probably the scientific community is either 50-50 towards the lab leak now or more.
+
+02:05:34.500 --> 02:05:39.500
+And initially though, they squelched all dissent and said you're a conspiracy theorist if you're saying this, but they didn't reveal this.
+
+02:05:39.500 --> 02:05:42.500
+I do have it on high speed though here. Don't think he's so smart.
+
+02:05:42.500 --> 02:05:55.500
+How many of the people in the US government are so comfortable having Chinese researchers who are working for the Chinese government, which they're terrified of, just throwing this money at them?
+
+02:05:56.500 --> 02:06:03.500
+Well, you know, Anthony Fauci said that he is the science, but they're really criticizing science because I represent science.
+
+02:06:03.500 --> 02:06:08.500
+I think he is the defender of the funding of science, the business of science. There's billions of dollars.
+
+02:06:08.500 --> 02:06:15.500
+These are not just people that are, you know, cloistered up in some kind of monastery wanting to try to find the cure for cancer.
+
+02:06:15.500 --> 02:06:21.500
+These are people receiving billions of dollars, millions of dollars.
+
+02:06:21.500 --> 02:06:27.500
+So I think that there is a self-interest there that was never revealed, and I think that that's part of the problem.
+
+02:06:27.500 --> 02:06:35.500
+You said Peter Dazzack was running eco-health, but he's still running it, being paid half a million dollars.
+
+02:06:35.500 --> 02:06:37.500
+Yeah, they had to talk to people about this.
+
+02:06:37.500 --> 02:06:46.500
+He won't reveal his notes. So the Lancet Commission, when they felt that he had taken advantage of them, they started a commission, the Lancet Commission to look into this.
+
+02:06:46.500 --> 02:06:53.500
+And Jeffrey Sachs was in charge of this. He initially had Peter Dazzack on the committee until he discovered how dishonest he was being with things.
+
+02:06:53.500 --> 02:06:59.500
+But Peter Dazzack has refused to reveal his notes. Ultimately, there is a great deal of culpability on his part.
+
+02:06:59.500 --> 02:07:05.500
+And to give you an example of who he is and how the money changes hand, he was like, oh, I'm going to cure the world from cancer of this disease.
+
+02:07:05.500 --> 02:07:14.500
+Now, this is a guy who has $15,000 cocktail parties at the Cosmo Club, NDC, invites Anthony Fauci and others there for cocktails.
+
+02:07:15.500 --> 02:07:19.500
+This is a guy who's been schmoozing, you know, how some people schmooze politicians.
+
+02:07:19.500 --> 02:07:23.500
+Their whole organization is now set up to schmooze bureaucrats.
+
+02:07:23.500 --> 02:07:27.500
+And part of the problem that made it worse, Anthony Fauci was there for 40 years.
+
+02:07:27.500 --> 02:07:30.500
+Anthony Fauci became the J. Edgar Hoover of the NIH.
+
+02:07:30.500 --> 02:07:33.500
+Too much power, too much longevity.
+
+02:07:33.500 --> 02:07:41.500
+And it was also greatly expanded after 9-11 because they got involved with bio-weapons and a huge amount of defense money started flowing in.
+
+02:07:41.500 --> 02:07:44.500
+So Anthony Fauci used to be 127th of the NIH.
+
+02:07:44.500 --> 02:07:51.500
+He became so big and so powerful that it became more powerful than the head of all of NIH, but billions of dollars flowed through him.
+
+02:07:51.500 --> 02:07:53.500
+And we're still scratching the surface.
+
+02:07:53.500 --> 02:08:00.500
+So we're actually could reference that, right? We could go right back to the paper that we were reading at the beginning.
+
+02:08:00.500 --> 02:08:07.500
+And we can look at this.
+
+02:08:07.500 --> 02:08:10.500
+Oops.
+
+02:08:10.500 --> 02:08:23.500
+This idea, this odd perception, this odd effect that perception has on demand is best illustrated by the funding trends for vaccine development following the events of September 11, 2001.
+
+02:08:23.500 --> 02:08:36.500
+Now, I don't know why they cite September 11 because vaccine developments following the events of September 11 events must refer to the anthrax attacks that came after as if they're all related, which I don't think that they necessarily are in the way that it is.
+
+02:08:37.500 --> 02:08:50.500
+Concerns about bioterror have amplified public demand for vaccines against pathogens for which the actual risk of illness and exposure is minute amplified the public demand.
+
+02:08:50.500 --> 02:08:54.500
+Is that a story they're telling or is that real? It's probably a story.
+
+02:08:54.500 --> 02:09:05.500
+Nevertheless, bioterrorism in several years of sustained increases in government funding have had a stimulatory effect on vaccine development aids has also driven vaccine research.
+
+02:09:05.500 --> 02:09:17.500
+Now, it's interesting that we hear Rand Paul telling almost the exact same story 23 years later.
+
+02:09:17.500 --> 02:09:21.500
+Oh, I sorry, 20 years later. This is a 2004 paper.
+
+02:09:21.500 --> 02:09:28.500
+20 years later, he's selling the same story about where the funding's coming from, why it's coming from there.
+
+02:09:28.500 --> 02:09:40.500
+And its effects are that there is a giant amount of money and a giant amount of power pent up behind this experimental.
+
+02:09:40.500 --> 02:09:48.500
+Emergency plan coordinate a response to a pandemic.
+
+02:09:48.500 --> 02:09:57.500
+So the question becomes, would these powers that stand to gain money and power and prestige and everything from a pandemic?
+
+02:09:57.500 --> 02:10:11.500
+Would there be any national security imperative to actually make sure that that event, that black swan event occurred completely under their control?
+
+02:10:11.500 --> 02:10:20.500
+So that it would be a successful response perceived as a successful response and achieve the outcomes that were desired,
+
+02:10:20.500 --> 02:10:34.500
+which might be, for example, to normalize the use of transfection as a therapeutic even before it has been or ever tested under the guise of an investigational vaccine,
+
+02:10:34.500 --> 02:10:46.500
+exactly described as in this editorial from 2004 by one of the leaders inside of the NIH at the time and still.
+
+02:10:47.500 --> 02:10:51.500
+Just saying a lot of things are lining up here.
+
+02:10:51.500 --> 02:10:53.500
+A lot of things are lining up.
+
+02:10:53.500 --> 02:10:57.500
+The purpose is for us trying to determine the classified stuff that's going on.
+
+02:10:57.500 --> 02:11:05.500
+We're having trouble getting the unclassified information, but I think there's a great deal more if we can ever get into the classified projects that they're doing.
+
+02:11:05.500 --> 02:11:10.500
+Well, you eventually want the media trashed you all the way through.
+
+02:11:10.500 --> 02:11:12.500
+Rand Paul, stop it.
+
+02:11:12.500 --> 02:11:13.500
+You look like an idiot.
+
+02:11:13.500 --> 02:11:16.500
+But some now have changed vanity.
+
+02:11:16.500 --> 02:11:17.500
+Headline.
+
+02:11:17.500 --> 02:11:18.500
+That was pretty good.
+
+02:11:18.500 --> 02:11:19.500
+I didn't see that one before.
+
+02:11:19.500 --> 02:11:22.500
+To call Rand Paul the sniveling mora.
+
+02:11:22.500 --> 02:11:26.500
+Two months later, the headline is major shift.
+
+02:11:26.500 --> 02:11:35.500
+Now, is this any different than the shtick that we heard from Brett Weinstein yesterday, where people were writing bad reviews about his podcast being dangerous,
+
+02:11:35.500 --> 02:11:40.500
+and that people are criticizing him, that he might be a tool of Peter Thiel?
+
+02:11:40.500 --> 02:11:42.500
+Is this any different?
+
+02:11:42.500 --> 02:11:46.500
+It's the exact same shtick.
+
+02:11:46.500 --> 02:11:59.500
+They're all doing exactly the same act for their audience, for their constituents, for their followers, and the shtick is the same for all of them.
+
+02:11:59.500 --> 02:12:04.500
+Robert Malone does this shtick.
+
+02:12:04.500 --> 02:12:10.500
+Anybody that lost their job does this shtick, I was doing this shtick.
+
+02:12:10.500 --> 02:12:30.500
+But the point is, is that the people who are doing it with the most prominence and making the most gains and comfort from it are actually there artificially as part of a limited spectrum of debate and a lively discussion within it.
+
+02:12:30.500 --> 02:12:47.500
+It's all fake, and it's all designed to make sure that every single possible person on the planet that is skillfully watching television or skillfully using social media will come to the conclusion that there was a novel virus that killed millions of people,
+
+02:12:47.500 --> 02:12:56.500
+that we also saved millions of people from, that likely originated and gained a function research and therefore a virus like it will come again in the future.
+
+02:12:56.500 --> 02:13:08.500
+This is the narrative, the spell, the enchantment that they are casting on the planet with the intention of raising your children's children under this mythology.
+
+02:13:08.500 --> 02:13:10.500
+Plain and simple.
+
+02:13:10.500 --> 02:13:21.500
+No more Santa Claus, no more religion, we're going to use mother nature and biology and myths about it.
+
+02:13:21.500 --> 02:13:37.500
+Not your sacred biology, not your body is a temple, not your perfect at birth, but that you're darn lucky to have public health or otherwise you'd all be dead.
+
+02:13:37.500 --> 02:13:41.500
+Admits funding, risky research and woo-huh.
+
+02:13:41.500 --> 02:13:43.500
+Paul might have been on to something.
+
+02:13:43.500 --> 02:13:50.500
+Yeah, I think that ultimately they're going to have to admit to this, but to me it's not so much about them admitting or apologizing or their culpability.
+
+02:13:50.500 --> 02:13:53.500
+It's really about trying to prevent this from happening again in the future.
+
+02:13:53.500 --> 02:13:59.500
+I mean the big goal for me is some sort of bipartisan legislation that will prevent this from happening again.
+
+02:13:59.500 --> 02:14:01.500
+Did you write this book by yourself?
+
+02:14:01.500 --> 02:14:12.500
+Well, I had some help from my wife and so what I usually say is it was a big, huge, maybe not that interesting book and then my wife, Kelly, got a hold of it and added a lot of interesting color to the book.
+
+02:14:12.500 --> 02:14:17.500
+971 footnotes, given all the stupid stuff you have to do as a politician.
+
+02:14:17.500 --> 02:14:18.500
+Yeah.
+
+02:14:18.500 --> 02:14:22.500
+I can't believe you have the time to read 900 sources.
+
+02:14:22.500 --> 02:14:28.500
+I got really intrigued by this when I saw the very first conversations on January 31st of Anthony Fauci.
+
+02:14:28.500 --> 02:14:31.500
+He sends emails back and forth till three in the morning.
+
+02:14:31.500 --> 02:14:36.500
+He's obviously petrified that it's going to come out that he funded this time.
+
+02:14:36.500 --> 02:14:37.500
+Wow.
+
+02:14:37.500 --> 02:14:41.500
+And so those emails intrigued me because we see all the way through till three in the morning.
+
+02:14:41.500 --> 02:14:44.500
+The last email at three in the morning is to a guy named Bob Cadlak.
+
+02:14:44.500 --> 02:14:46.500
+I didn't know who that was at first.
+
+02:14:46.500 --> 02:14:54.500
+But I discovered in doing the research for this book that Bob Cadlak who receives an email at three in the morning, he's head of the safety committee that's supposed to oversee this research.
+
+02:14:55.500 --> 02:15:05.500
+So why is Anthony Fauci emailing him at three in the morning saying nothing to see here probably came from animals because he knows that Bob Cadlak's committee should have reviewed this.
+
+02:15:05.500 --> 02:15:11.500
+And the only reason they didn't is because Anthony Fauci prevented this research from getting the proper safety review.
+
+02:15:11.500 --> 02:15:13.500
+Thank you, Senator Paul.
+
+02:15:13.500 --> 02:15:14.500
+Thanks for having me.
+
+02:15:14.500 --> 02:15:16.500
+Wow.
+
+02:15:16.500 --> 02:15:18.500
+Thanks for watching this video.
+
+02:15:18.500 --> 02:15:24.500
+I'm not really sure what to say other than that's a very, very impressive summary of the Scooby-Doo.
+
+02:15:24.500 --> 02:15:28.500
+A very impressive commitment to the Scooby-Doo.
+
+02:15:28.500 --> 02:15:35.500
+And I'm kind of frightened by the fact that he was so committed to the Scooby-Doo.
+
+02:15:35.500 --> 02:15:38.500
+So let me just wrap it up real quick.
+
+02:15:38.500 --> 02:15:45.500
+Oh, shoot.
+
+02:15:45.500 --> 02:15:54.500
+Let me just wrap it up really quick here, guys.
+
+02:15:54.500 --> 02:16:14.500
+So there's an illusion of consensus that's been created by the television and by social media that we had to figure out whether this was a lab leak of a batcave zoneosis virus or a batcave zoneosis or whether this was a lab leak of a batcave virus or, or whether it was a modified virus for that matter.
+
+02:16:14.500 --> 02:16:19.500
+And maybe the fear and cleavage site is the reason why it went around the earth so well for three years.
+
+02:16:19.500 --> 02:16:38.500
+Many people believe that the fear and cleavage site is the reason why this virus was so infectious and that it could start out in a point in Wuhan and spread around a planet, which is just not possible, an RNA molecule can't do that.
+
+02:16:39.500 --> 02:16:55.500
+Just like if I spill paint outside of my house, there's no possible way no matter how many people walk through my backyard, it's not possible to cover the earth and blue paint by dumping it in my backyard.
+
+02:16:55.500 --> 02:17:00.500
+Oh, but the RNA replicates with your own cells. It uses your own cells to copy.
+
+02:17:00.500 --> 02:17:01.500
+Yeah, right.
+
+02:17:01.500 --> 02:17:05.500
+And it can't make a single good copy of itself.
+
+02:17:05.500 --> 02:17:15.500
+Every copy has errors. Most of the time the RNA dependent RNA polymerase makes an incomplete sub genomic RNA copy.
+
+02:17:15.500 --> 02:17:27.500
+So much so that when they do a high fidelity nanopore sequencing experiment, they can only find a few, a handful of full genome sequences and the rest are fragmented.
+
+02:17:27.500 --> 02:17:40.500
+They have no explanation for it other than likely the vast majority of viral particles don't have a full genome in them, which is part of this quasi species swarm.
+
+02:17:40.500 --> 02:17:55.500
+This part of the fraction of that swarm that is incompetent replication incompetent exactly as none other than Robert Malone explained in June of 2021.
+
+02:17:55.500 --> 02:18:07.500
+This faith in a novel virus has not been tarnished by anyone has not been challenged by anyone except for the people that say there's no viruses at all that measles is made up.
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+And the reason why is because this faith is the trap this faith is the faith that doesn't allow you to see that it's a conflated background signal that these tests don't test for anything that a pan coronavirus set of primers doesn't find anything.
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+And the metagenomic sequencing doesn't find anything hasn't found anything but putting together signals.
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+And the best example that I have for this is the library example.
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+I've told this one before, but maybe I shouldn't tell it now.
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+I won't tell it now.
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+Protocols are murder and transfection.
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+They're not medicine.
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+Infectious colon release.
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+You can call it that it's still the same.
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+Protocols are murder and transfection is a medicine.
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+It doesn't really matter what you call it as long as you realize that the signal that we're detecting with PC are testing the signal that they say they're getting when they culture this virus is most likely alive.
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+02:19:03.500 --> 02:19:06.500
+Because of the way that they do it.
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+It is most likely a lie.
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+02:19:09.500 --> 02:19:17.500
+And it's a lie not because the signals aren't there but because the signals are a conflated background signal they're telling you they're finding something that isn't there.
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+I want you to think of this example.
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+I'm going to try to explain it and see if this works.
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+02:19:23.500 --> 02:19:25.500
+Of course this wasn't right.
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+This is the read.
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+I hate that one but this one.
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+Let's say that you sat down and we set you down on the couch and we say that well Jonathan Cooley wrote a book about Scooby Doo.
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+And it's a book with 15 pages.
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+It's pretty short.
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+It's only got two chapters.
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+It's a kid's book like a Dr. Seuss book but it's about Scooby Doo.
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+And we're going to look in this library for it.
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+And I'm going to prove to you that in the Pittsburgh Carnegie Library my Scooby Doo book is in there.
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+02:20:07.500 --> 02:20:20.500
+But the way that we're going to look for it is we're going to use a random search engine to go look for pieces of my book in the library.
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+And if we find three pieces of my book in the library then I've proven to you that my book is in the library.
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+The pieces we're going to look for are once upon a time.
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+The end.
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+And suddenly a screen came from the hallway.
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+Now those are all parts of my book.
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+But if I tell you the story correctly or I make an argument to you correctly I could argue that those are unique to my book.
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+So if you find these in the library I have proven to you that my book is in that library and now you owe me you know you lost the bet.
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+And so if the coronavirus biology is like that and I suspect that it is that there are RNA and DNA signals in the background everywhere that include viruses and exosomes and whatever else noise that's there.
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+So if you start to draw random small signals from that with particular patterns and then say that if enough of these show up that it's evidence of something you can find a lot of things down there.
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+And that's exactly what Nathan wolf and metagenomic sequencing and metal biota did is that they said they were looking at the dark matter of life the noise and they were looking for new life forms in that that genetic noise.
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+A genetic noise is a lot like a giant shredded library of genetic noise from which you can almost find anything in small quantities.
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+Then it would be pretty easy to use a series of PCR reactions to claim that look I wrote a book it's in the library.
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+There's a conflated background signal back there that's composed of RNA dependent RNA polymerases and end proteins and and e proteins and all kinds of other viral proteins that are related to RNA sequences or something like that.
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+And if we use the light molecular techniques we can find once upon a time and the end and suddenly there was a scream in the hallway.
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+That novel book that brand new book is there look that book wasn't there before well how do you know well we weren't testing for it so obviously it wasn't there.
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+It's a brand new book in the library and it's traveling everywhere everywhere we look for it we find the book.
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+Holy crap.
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+Well we took the same test over to to England and we looked for once upon a time and the end and there was a scream in the hallway and we found those sentences so it was in it was in England too.
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+02:22:54.500 --> 02:22:57.500
+Holy cow really did you look in India.
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+Yeah we did and we found an English library there and lo and behold we found those sentences in that English library too.
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+02:23:06.500 --> 02:23:09.500
+That book must be a best seller.
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+It's the best selling book ever every freaking library we look in we find those sentences.
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+02:23:16.500 --> 02:23:26.500
+Now it's not a perfect analogy but it's damn close because the genetic alphabet is actually only 20 words with a few synonyms.
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+It's only composed of four letters.
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+Every words only three letters.
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+Uh oh.
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+02:23:34.500 --> 02:23:35.500
+Uh oh.
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+02:23:35.500 --> 02:23:42.500
+Is it now getting easier for you to imagine that you could conflate a background signal with the right testing.
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+If the words are only three letters wrong and there's only four letters and there are only 20 possible words.
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+02:23:48.500 --> 02:23:50.500
+Oh my gosh ladies and gentlemen.
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+02:23:51.500 --> 02:23:58.500
+I think you're starting to understand why that conflated background signal might just be the source of this pandemic.
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+It's faith in a novel virus ladies and gentlemen.
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+02:24:07.500 --> 02:24:08.500
+It's faith in a novel virus.
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+02:24:08.500 --> 02:24:20.500
+It's faith that that background signal is really a new source of death that's never existed before and spread around the world more rapidly than any mRNA ever in history.
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+02:24:20.500 --> 02:24:22.500
+It's just ridiculous.
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+02:24:23.500 --> 02:24:30.500
+Protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine and the players that won't play the game won't talk about the PCR fraud anymore.
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+02:24:30.500 --> 02:24:32.500
+They won't talk about any of this stuff.
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+Natural immunity, transfection in general.
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+02:24:35.500 --> 02:24:39.500
+They got to talk about certain things but not in general.
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+02:24:39.500 --> 02:24:50.500
+If we're going to talk to you about protein folding or the RNA not being pure or the death certificates being fraudulent because of massive financial fraud, not going to talk about any of this lying.
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+02:24:51.500 --> 02:24:59.500
+They don't want to talk about it because then it dispels the idea of a novel virus that killed millions of people which is a tenant of the faith.
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+02:25:02.500 --> 02:25:07.500
+And why are they doing this because we are at a time point when there won't be 10 billion humans forever.
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+02:25:09.500 --> 02:25:12.500
+There won't be 10 billion humans having children forever.
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+And so if we want to get that genetic data from these children while we still have enough of them to feed the AI lifetimes of data, then we've got to invert sovereignty of people right now so that they turn their kids data over to the government.
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+It can't be this voluntary thing called all of us at the NIH where nobody's going to participate except for people that are paid.
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+02:25:37.500 --> 02:25:39.500
+They want it to be mandatory.
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+And first they're going to do it with money.
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+First they're going to do it with scary viruses but eventually it's just going to be because you owe it to us.
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+It's your duty to society to give your babies to us.
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+The genetic data.
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+02:25:56.500 --> 02:25:57.500
+Why are you so selfish?
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+Stop all transfections and humans ladies and gentlemen.
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+02:26:01.500 --> 02:26:03.500
+Stop all transfections full stop.
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+02:26:04.500 --> 02:26:06.500
+I've stayed up way too late again.
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+02:26:06.500 --> 02:26:08.500
+I wanted to be asleep when my wife was asleep tonight.
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+That's really annoying.
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+But it was good and I'm glad you guys stayed here.
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+You know, they're trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary so don't let them do it.
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+Don't let them do it.
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+Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb and transfection and healthy animal.
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+And healthy humans is criminally negligent.
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+02:26:33.500 --> 02:26:34.500
+Thanks very much for joining me.
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+02:26:34.500 --> 02:26:35.500
+I'll see you again tomorrow night.
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+02:27:02.500 --> 02:27:20.500
+Don't forget I am not teasing J body about a charia I think is going to join us on Monday morning.
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+02:27:20.500 --> 02:27:27.500
+So I'm probably going to do a live show on Monday morning which will actually I think be it's his morning.
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+So it'll actually be about one o'clock in the afternoon on Monday.
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+I'll throw it up on the schedule once I have confirmation from Jay that he's coming.
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+I think it's going to be real nice.
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+We have some good questions and of course we're going to take him as close as we can to questioning this mythology because he's an epidemiologist.
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+02:27:50.500 --> 02:28:06.500
+And so he I think he stays safely on his little island and I think I have the right kind of relationship with him to be in the broken science initiative that I can I can make him test his border a little bit so we're going to take him to the woods shed.
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+02:28:06.500 --> 02:28:07.500
+See you guys.
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+It's going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television. People everywhere are starting to listen to him. It's embarrassing.
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+I can't post links. How come? That's weird. I think I can post links.
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+This is King Owen Biological, a high resistance low noise information brief brought to you by a biologist.
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+It's the 16th of November, 2023. Welcome to the show.
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+Tonight, I wanted to watch a discussion. Jonathan Engler and Jessica Hockett had with Naomi Wolf really could be potentially very interesting depending on what part of this very lively debate
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+within that spectrum of acceptable opinion we're working on and how much we're really trying to give people a sense of pre-thinking or how much rethinking we're really doing.
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+We're going to stop misleading the young. That's the main goal of Gig Owen Biological is ending this misleading of the young by teaching the history, making sure we don't take part in this lie.
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+The simplest step of courage any individual can take is not taking part in the lie. Those are my words.
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+Many smarter people than me have already seen this people coming. Many smarter people than me have known how this is work in previous iterations.
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+So, yeah, I think the brick wall is visible and I think we can see it and I think the biology is the best way to show people more and more of the brick wall without terrifying them about the truth.
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+The biology shows us and there was no spread in New York City to affect his clones are the only real threat.
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+His emo batches were likely distributed in Transfection Healthy Mammals is dominant.
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+The protocols were murder, gain of function, and mythology. The Scooby-Doo is real. The Scooby-Doo is designed to protect the mystery.
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+To make it seem like you've solved the mystery. That's the best way to brainwash yourself is to think that you solved the puzzle
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+and have that answer to the puzzle be the trap itself. The players are committed to the lies and that's the trap.
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+And the lies they are committed to are on the screen right now.
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+These are the lies that everybody is committed to. There was a novel virus that millions of people died from maybe 16 million around the world, but even more were saved.
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+And gain of function is real and likely the source of this pandemic and even if it wasn't this one, it could be the next one and a virus will come again.
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+That's the deal.
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+And so gingo and biological is all about trying to break that faith and show why that is a whole mythology that has been constructed in order to govern us by it.
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+Thanks for noticing that my voice is still sounding really good. I actually got to tell you it's getting stronger every day.
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+I'm not yelling in the gym yet, but I could. And I don't know what to say other than it's getting stronger.
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+I don't I haven't had pain the whole time it's been recovering, but there has been different levels of of complete and I think it's getting really close to complete.
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+I mean, I still have this thing that I've always had where sometimes it just doesn't start, you know, and the voice just doesn't come out when I wanted to, but I've had that problem as far as I can remember.
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+So it's just kind of like, I don't know if the vocal cords are big and sometimes they don't they don't get started or whatever, but that's always been an issue.
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+My body's healed itself.
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+We'll see.
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+So don't take the bait on TV and social media and make sure that you understand again that what's perceived to be true is most important.
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+And that's what a lot of these people have always been about.
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+Not really so much about dissidents as they are about controlling the narrative and making sure that what's perceived to be true is that worst case scenario what's perceived to be true is maybe uncertainty.
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+And even though the possibility space is being controlled, it's the uncertainty within that possibility space that keeps everybody on shaky ground keeps everybody guessing.
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+And then as we went through this mystery solving exercise with Rand Paul and Tony Fauci arguing and emails being redacted.
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+We have been rushed right past the conclusion that we should have come to, which is that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb and specifically transfection and healthy humans is criminally negligent.
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+I split this up into two into two.
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+Why can't I talk while I'm doing this?
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+I split this up into two slideshows because I guess it's starting to take up too much memory with some of the background movies from bleeple that I'm using.
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+I don't know if you noticed that or not.
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+Those slides are from bleeple that some of those videos, let me switch over here.
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+So we have been telling this story of a Scooby-Doo and that one needs to go off for now.
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+I'm a little behind here with the with my tech.
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+You know, I don't have anybody in the background.
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+Everybody wants to send an email says tell your staff or tell your switcher when I don't have that.
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+It's all buttons in front of me.
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+We've been trying to explain to our family and friends into the new viewers that absolutely every once in a while join us right now.
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+I would guess that all 48 viewers are our old friends and family.
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+And so thanks very much for being here every night and making this not seem like I'm shouting into nowhere.
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+The Scooby-Doo is my best way of explaining how we've been fooled.
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+Skilled TV watcher to feel as though they have successfully participated or followed along with a real time three year mystery solving exercise.
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+And that three year mystery solving exercise is the pandemic. What is going on with my tech here.
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+Let's go.
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+And so last night we watched a video of Rand Paul basically explaining where we are and they have us right where they want us with with with this Scooby-Doo believing that there was a novel virus for sure that killed 1 million people in America and 16 million people around the world is exactly
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+16 million people died and even more were saved by a combination of not so perfect choices and the spectacularly fast rollout of an almost completely perfect mRNA product.
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+Not only that, but in this interview, it is none other than Kevin S felt the perfecter of the gene drive the perfecter of directed evolution saying that gain of function and viruses is the premier biological threat that could threaten 50 billion people in the universe.
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+So the viruses will definitely come again.
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+And this story this illusion of consensus across and around the globe across the spectrum of debate.
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+This illusion of consensus that this is more or less what had to have happened is how they want to trap our children.
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+I hear a little tiny bit of sound maybe that thing is just bleeding through our two grand and too defined to apply to something as constricted and well understood in limitations as an RNA or DNA virus.
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+And so the idea is to scare you into believing that an RNA molecule coated in a protein lipid nanopartin, a lipid lipoprotein coat is capable of circulating around the globe perpetually making copies of itself remember it started out as a very small quantity
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+and a few people unlucky at the market.
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+And it has expanded itself an RNA molecule coated in lipid lipoprotein has expanded itself to the point where oh that's what that is that's a four over here that one.
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+It has expanded itself into millions of people enough to kill 16 million people.
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+That's the story I'm sorry I'm telling if it's a broken.
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+This is really just my new some new buttons of change is not really working here.
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+Can I test this one? Is that working? I mean this is the whole idea of the thing.
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+It's a little bit delayed.
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+But this is really the joke that they played on us this three years of illusion of consensus where they they pretend to be revealing they pretend to be coming out they pretend to say hey this is my technology.
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+They pretend to say hey my you know I heard a whole bunch of stories about people got killed by the vaccine maybe it's not so good after all.
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+Did he take it? Yeah I took it. Did he take it? Yeah he took it.
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+No I didn't take it I'm taking Ivermectin.
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+And this story that was woven over these last three years has been so intricately designed to preserve the novel virus that killed millions of people from which millions more were saved and gain a function is likely source and the virus will come again.
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+And so I've been trying to make this diagram of people just to give you an idea of how we are trapped by this illusion of consensus because no matter where we turn we find somebody with a slightly different story in a slightly different, you know, stick.
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+But in the end all of these people's stick do not question the premises of a novel virus millions of people being killed by it millions more being saved from it gain a function being a real thing and a virus likely to come again.
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+None of these people will question it except for people like Nick Hudson and Denny Rancor, Jessica Hockett.
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+I mean I have Peter McCullough there because he's questioning the the childhood vaccine schedule but Peter McCullough actually doesn't question this part of the faith yet at all.
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+Certainly doesn't question gain a function certainly doesn't question the millions died.
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+We still have a lot of work to do this diagram is still far from complete it's kind of optimistic in a way.
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+And so I really need you to think of the Scooby-Doo as part of this thing that kept us focused cognitively focused on this imaginary journey.
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+In this case portrayed as some kind of weird subway tunnel with neon lights.
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+We're focused on this this solving this mystery figuring out what was going on.
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+And all these different accounts and stories all lined up.
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+Accounts from the United States accounts from from Australia accounts from people who worked for eco health alliance accounts for people who invented the mRNA accounts from people who worked in government and argued with people in government.
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+Soon we're going to have accounts from people who are running for president.
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+I already have it. That's right. I already have it. All the stuff that I wanted to get in the book is in the book. So stay tuned ladies and gentlemen. There's going to be some serious fireworks coming in the coming weeks.
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+But in this tunnel we still find ourselves in this tunnel certainly our family and friends are in this tunnel.
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+Certainly all the people that are skillfully watching television no matter what TV channel they choose they are in this tunnel.
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+Still believing that bad cave viruses have pandemic potential still believing that that pandemic potential can be accessed through cell culture or through animal passage and still believing that you can stitch these things together.
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+And if you stitch the wrong parts together away it'll go around the world. You shouldn't have spilled that paint outside your door. Holy cow. That's terrible.
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+Those squirrels are going to track that paint all over the world. It's never going to stop.
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+And this illusion of this potential worst case scenario being 5 billion people dead was just recently reiterated by Rand Paul citing Kevin Esfel the perfecter of the gene drive and perfected directed evolution in proteins.
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+We are talking about some serious obfuscation and misdirection of what the real biological dangers are what the real technologies we need to be afraid of are.
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+It's not gain a function in viruses and it's not gain a function in coronaviruses.
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+It is infectious clones produced in quantity in RNA viruses that's for sure.
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+And it is directed evolution and proteins for toxins for immunogens and enzymes and it is gene drives.
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+Why are they doing this because they plan to coerce a surrender of individual sovereignty and global fundamental inversion from human rights to freedom to fascism.
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+That's why.
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+And so I'm not really sure what this illusion of consent what role this illusion of consensus is supposed to play other than to make sure that we ask the wrong questions.
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+And you can ask any questions you want to ask that's why it feels a little bit less like a storyline in a tunnel and more like a cube or a trap now.
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+That we're looking out of it's kind of transparent.
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+And all these things are going on on the outside and all these people will tell us what we see.
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+But we're not actually seeing anything anymore we're seeing what the TV wants us to see what social media wants us to see and we have no way of verifying that what we think we are seeing is true.
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+And these people can go all around the world on podcasts all around the world and create the illusion of consensus that traps us in this very vivid seeming vivid debate and argument.
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+But it's actually just a cube that expands and contracts and we can't escape from it anymore.
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+They have us now.
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+They have us in this trap already where our children believe that pandemic potential exists in bad caves pandemic potential is being released on the world because of our ever increasing encroachment on nature our overpopulation and climate change.
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+So make no mistake about it we are already almost trapped in this cognitive prison.
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+That that circumvents language and culture and and traps us all in this narrative of of pandemic viruses.
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+And so that's why I think it's really important to start to figure out who we can trust and then to elevate their discourse so that no matter what the censorship is we have this network of of real people amplifying real people.
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+And somehow we've got to get this word out before digital ideas required on the internet before digital ID becomes adopted for air travel, which is probably inevitable at this stage.
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+Unfortunately, as I said last night you already have the software in your passport if you have one.
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+It just doesn't have the data on it yet.
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+If you have a real ID drivers license in the United States, you already have the chip. You just don't have it loaded yet.
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+So let's watch Jessica and Jonathan on this podcast and see what they have to say.
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+I think it should be a good one.
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+Hey, everyone. Welcome. It's Dr. Naomi Wolf and I'm honored to be joined today by Jessica pocket and Jonathan angler of the distinguished group.
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+So excited to have you. So we've got some bios. Mr Angler started life as a medical doctor. I'm sorry.
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+I should have said Dr Angler before moving into clinical industry where he gained experience in designing running and reporting clinical trials to regulatory standards.
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+After a few years of business using automation to streamline clinical trials.
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+And this was sold to us corporation a decade later.
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+He retrained as a lawyer because why, you know, why not make your Jewish mother incredibly happy.
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+Back to a short period before re entering the health care business world.
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+And he is the co chair with Claire Craig who I adore, by the way, I've never met her but I've admired her forever of the UK based heart group, which opposes UK government policies of the last few years.
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+He is also an executive committee of the international research group, Linda, where he works closely with Jessica.
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+Now Jessica pocket lives in the Chicago area and worked in the K 12 education sector for more than 20 years versus a teacher and then as a consultant to schools and agencies and policy organizations.
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+She's published many publications, including numerous articles and three books since 2020 she has used her research skills to push against government mandates censorship and false claims.
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+She publishes her investigative work on New York City's mass battalion event on Twitter at would underscore house 76 and her sub step would house 76 calm and is proud to be associated with the international group panda through which she collaborates with Jonathan,
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+and others. And so such distinguished guests for today again welcome welcome. The reason that we're speaking with Dr Engler and Miss pocket today is that panda panda their group reached out to let us know that they had reviewed the 2020 New York City
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+and they had some questions serious questions so overview please tell us what you found in your own research and again I just want to like underscore this is their independent research daily cloud has not evaluated our group is not evaluated.
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+It's so I'll just stop it right here.
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+And see if I can orchestrate this little bit here.
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+So first of all let's just outline what they said Jonathan angler is co chair of the heart group which is actually out of the UK.
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+And he's also part of the the board of panda panda is based in South Africa and it's actually Nick Hudson's
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+right.
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+I'm sorry for the messy pencil. I don't know why I'm using pencil tonight.
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+And Jessica Haka used to work in Chicago. I think she worked for Chicago public schools. She's also been a
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+student with the Hoover institution institute which is at Stanford. You might know that from also that's where people like Thomas soul are pointed.
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+And she came into panda actually maybe a year after I first presented to panda.
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+I think I presented to panda too or I think only twice if I presented to panda but maybe three times twice for sure.
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+And both of those times were before Jessica presented there.
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+And since Jessica came to panda they really have been working very hard to promote her ideas about New York City and I think they've been very successful at it.
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+And I do want to give at least a shout out to Jessica and and Jonathan right away at the start. They have been encouraging me to to write a
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+sub-stackish article explaining my ideas about clones and the PCR and just try to iron out some of the biology that I've been teaching.
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+And while I've had other people also encourage me to do that.
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+For me unlike people like Matt Crawford or or even Robert Malone or these other people that can put out 20 or 30 or 40 pages of sub stack every day.
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+And two or three articles sometimes every day. That's not me. That's not how I write.
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+It's sometimes how I talk. And so it's possible that at some point I will crack the code on how to.
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+Let's say turn on a stream and record and then translate that into an article or to a transcript later that is useful to edit.
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+And so for now just say it's on the to do list and now that book plug again now that this book is going to be coming out in about three weeks.
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+It's actually a very important time for me to have that article ready to go so that all of the biology that's encoded in this book with my name next to it can be adequately explained and questions can be answered as the book circulates.
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+It's pretty exciting ladies and gentlemen. It is actually going to happen.
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+I don't know. I'm I'm I'm cautiously optimistic that we're going to be able to get somewhere and I'm cautiously optimistic that when we do get somewhere Jonathan Engler.
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+Jessica Hockett and Nick Hudson and a few other people are going to be strategically ready to make sure that these ideas are ready to springboard into what might might become common knowledge, which is really what we need to happen.
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+In much the same way that people have come to realize that, wow, I think it might be a lab leak. We have to make people continue down this progression to realize that, wow, I may have been fooled purposefully fooled into believing that I was figuring out that it was a lab leak.
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+So that I would make sure that my children would believe in these these mythologies for their lives.
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+And that's pretty scary. But on the other hand, it's pretty exciting.
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+And you can have a whole boatload of hope once you start to realize that, wait, does that mean that we we stopped it?
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+Like once you realize that, oh, wait, if we just don't believe, then it's all gone. Yes.
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+Then suddenly it can become a very uplifting moment, especially for some of these people who have felt oppressively trapped by this for three years where the rest of us have at least been pushing back against it.
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+I don't I don't think you can underestimate how exciting of a moment this is potentially as this book comes out and as these ideas come out in real tangible form in a way that we can use as a springboard to get more detailed explanations about these ideas out there.
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+To get more attention to some extremely well done lectures that you can bet your bet your donuts I'm preparing so that when the time comes and when the viewers come in the coming weeks that we are ready to teach the basic biology of this Scooby-Doo once and for all while everybody is watching.
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+And have a published transcript to go along with it some graphics some some cards some slides you don't think I'm getting ready for that you got another thing coming ladies and gentlemen so let's have some fun let's listen to our allies Jonathan Engler and Jessica
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+Hockett talk with Naomi Wolf about the idea of whether or not there was a real pandemic or something that they kind of orchestrated and and so called something that it wasn't exciting it's their finding so over to you to tell us what you found.
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+Yeah, so I mean my first suspicions about the story that we were being told arose in a few years ago actually 2020-2021 when it looked like basically the COVID deaths which were claimed shot up in a peak.
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+And I thought that's a slightly strange thing for a spreading pathogen to do and of course the alternative theory to that which I developed in Panda with a very genius evolutionary biologist who was in Panda there was maybe it wasn't actually a spreading virus maybe it was the response to the idea that there might be a spreading virus in other
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+words the dystopian.
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+Now I really like Jonathan Engler but I think it's a little bit.
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+I'm a little I'm a little disappointed with this kind of explanation.
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+I have a hard time believing that there were very many people in March of 2020 who were already saying wow that's strange this peak is strange.
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+That that's a pretty bold claim you can look back at March 2020 from from a later time and say wow that peak looks strange but you can't look at that peak in March 20 and know that it's strange.
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+Unless you were in the hospitals and you knew what people were doing in there.
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+And the idea that he came up with this idea with one other evolutionary biologist in Panda is also a bit of a stretch because.
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+I don't know I just I wish that there people would be more humble and not say that I came I I I right away all the time when so many people suspected this so many people knew something was wrong.
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+And so many people brought confirmation in some way or another that allowed all of us to slowly and surely see.
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+None of us could have done this by ourselves if we were the only people we ever met who actually understood that something was going wrong if I never met anyone else who acknowledged that there's more light over there than there is over here.
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+Isn't there.
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+Then we would have all gone crazy and it frustrates me very much the same way it frustrates me when people say yeah but you know we didn't know what was going on we weren't sure we were all really afraid we just did the best we could.
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+It's so frustrating that people don't want to admit that they had no freakin clue in March 2020.
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+It's so freakin annoying darn it.
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+Healthcare response and how it affected the particularly elderly people at the time and so fast forward to 2022 when we discovered that we could download some information.
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+Find great information.
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+So from March 2020 to somewhere in 2022 you had nothing nothing happened you didn't talk to anybody nobody taught you anything about immunology nobody taught you anything about viruses.
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+Nobody gave you any confidence about your theory based on the fact that virology is as as a whole was a little weird.
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+You didn't get any courage or or or excitement from anybody else's ideas for two years until you got to download the data you always knew you needed.
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+Ah darn it Jonathan.
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+Come on.
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+There's just no reason for this level of of arrogance.
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+It's frustrating I'm going to play it again and I'm not going to interrupt him this time because I really want you to hear it.
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+Think about all the people who burnt their careers during 2020 2021 and 2022 trying to get some information out there to say hey something's wrong here.
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+How many doctors spoke up.
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+Come on man this is this is I get frustrated with this.
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+And others and so such distinguished there is questions being told arose it's it's their finding so over to you to tell us what you found.
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+Yeah so I mean my first suspicions about the story that we were being told arose in a few years ago actually 2020 2021 when it looked like.
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+See 2020 2021 that's pretty a specific if you weren't awake until 2021 then you missed the whole first year.
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+I mean I you know there's something fishy about this right away.
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+Darn it.
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+What is this?
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+Basically the COVID deaths which were claimed shot up in a peak as famously cross our United Kingdom at the same time with a few days in between.
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+And Dr. Adler around what month was that?
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+March 20th and I thought that's a slightly strange thing for a spreading pathogen to do.
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+And of course the alternative theory to that which I developed in Panda with a very genius evolutionary biologist who was in Panda there was maybe it wasn't actually a spreading virus maybe it was the response to the idea that there might be a spreading virus.
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+In other words the dystopian health care response and how it affected the particularly elderly people at the time.
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+And so fast forward to 2022 when we discovered that we could download some information from fine grade information from Northern Italy.
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+Basically daily death information.
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+What was the source of data?
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+This was the Italian Statistics Institute.
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+So the official government stats certificate Institute in Italy actually publishes a very fine grained death data for going right down into relatively small towns and villages in Northern Italy.
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+And so we actually analyzed the data trying to find the evidence of spread the whole critical part of the narrative is that something spread.
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+Something spreads and you should see evidence of it mathematically because what you get is you get clusterings and then you get things taking off in a small little fire somewhere.
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+And then that dies out and another one starts off somewhere else.
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+What you wouldn't expect to see would be the simultaneous destruction of the whole forest.
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+And that's really that's a powerful analogy.
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+So can we just jump in there?
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+I know you want to set the stage and I appreciate it.
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+But that's really a thought worth processing.
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+You're saying and do epidemiologists agree with you that the normal way a pathogen spreads is here and then here and then here rather than everywhere all at once.
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+Well, that's the that is the narrative I've claimed that it that it spread.
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+That was the whole basis upon lockdowns restrictions of movement.
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+I'm asking kind of a different question and I really want to get this right.
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+So please bear with me.
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+Yeah.
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+And again.
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+See now what I have a problem with here and I you know, like I said, Jonathan and I have been in contact for a long time through Panda.
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+And Jessica has been on my show and I consider Jessica a friend in the sense of we've we've had a lot of private messaging and a lot of, you know, she's she's promoted a lot of my my tweets and my work and given me a lot of compliments and been pretty helpful.
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+Definitely hasn't asked me to or told me to do anything or not say anything.
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+And the other people are not as as as supportive.
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+And I find it.
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+I find it.
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+Disappointing that Jonathan Engler is saying that he and one other person in Panda came up with an idea.
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+In 2020 about, you know, patterns of not spreading in the UK.
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+And he was already scratching his head about that for two years.
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+And then eventually got ahold of the data in Italy and then looked for spread.
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+The problem I have with this story, I got to be really honest with you, the problem that I have with this story is, is that it de accentuates the role of of protocols.
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+And it's it's like this.
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+So when are we going to get to saying that what we did was we killed people and that idea isn't his that idea can't be his because we know that so many other people were saying this from the very beginning so many people that spoke at Panda over those two years, including
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+Rancor, both of his big first publications came out in those years before they ever had the Italian data.
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+And so they already had confirmation that this was going on.
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+I already had given two presentations in front of Panda in 2022.
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+Maybe one of them was in 2021 where I was basically saying this that there is no real evidence of spread per se because that can't really happen.
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+And it's the fact of the matter is is that it's just it also kind of does a little bit of a disservice for what Panda was.
+
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+That Panda was really this place where people could come and present their ideas and people listened and had a critical discussion and once you presented, you could join every week and it became this really strong place where these ideas could grow and be hammered out.
+
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+And so it really does a disservice to the whole Panda organization in a way to say that I came up with the I noticed something funny in the UK and then me and another guy in Panda.
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+You know we came up with this idea and then we got this data eventually and then we tested our idea.
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+It's just it's so I don't know why why are we doing this.
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+You know you don't have to give a shout out to everybody but why not just at least say that Panda was a great place for these ideas to to blossom and fruit then then just say that you know I had this idea since March 2020.
+
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+What's Jessica doing on the show then.
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+What do you need her for.
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+She finally found what you always knew was going to be found in New York anyway I mean I don't know why I'm angry about this but I just don't like it because everybody's doing this Brett Weinstein is doing this.
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+If it wasn't if they shut me up boy it would be completely different it'd be the old global slave trade by now.
+
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+Lucky humanity had me.
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+I'll admit it I'm pretty frustrated because a lot of these people are doing just fine.
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+What did he say he was a doctor and a lawyer and all those other stuff so I'm sure he didn't lose his job and if he did well I'm sorry.
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+I don't know I just people whining about what they sacrificed people whining about what they lost.
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+This is a game for all the marbles.
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+This is for our children's children this is for our children being slaves or not.
+
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+This is about subcutaneous chipping of children.
+
+42:49.000 --> 42:55.000
+When people are still playing the you know whose idea was this game and who gets credit for this.
+
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+Why are we playing this game like this.
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+It's just annoying.
+
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+I'm not a medical doctor so my famous reference is 400 years of English and American memoirs and novels and so on.
+
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+What you're saying really resonates with like accounts of the demonic plague right it wasn't everywhere all at once it was in this town and then it was in that town and then it was you know coming in the harbor.
+
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+Are you saying that epidemiologists agree with you that pathogens do not spread everywhere all at once they spread here in a cluster and then to their in a cluster and to their in a cluster that we should that's what they should do.
+
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+But of course what they've been trying to do with the data we've been presenting is is refit remake all their assumptions so that their perception of what happened which was a normal deadly virus spread from Wuhan across the world.
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+So that fits that but the more assumptions they have to change to make that model fit to the less credible it basically looks.
+
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+You just want to dig in here because what you're saying is kind of incredible. So you're saying that epidemiologists in the past agree that pathogens spread the way you just described from this place to this place to this place in clusters, but that currently
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+43:56.000 --> 44:09.000
+kind of institutional epidemiologists as opposed to our dissident friends or epidemiologists are now remaking their assumptions about how pathogens spread in order to align the expectations with the COVID narrative that everything spread all at once is that what you're saying.
+
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+Yeah, so for example they might have thought a few years ago is a classical spread of a packaging from person to person. If you isolate somebody will reduce the spread and we can model this using complex modeling and so on.
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+Now they're having to introduce the idea of triggers that they don't really understand to explain why why did it take off simultaneously in these different areas.
+
+44:28.000 --> 44:36.000
+Oh, it must be a trigger that we don't understand. Now we would say that is not a virus. The trigger is the spread of fear, panic and dystopia.
+
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+But I should point out that there is somewhat of an omerta over the whole story about what happened in 2020 is even people who have worked out that the whole vaccine program is of dubious efficacy of safety.
+
+44:54.000 --> 45:02.000
+And justification are unwilling to look deeply into what actually happened in spring 2020. Right, we're out on a limb, both within the skeptical and the non skeptical community.
+
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+Well, let's bracket that. Okay, and then move right into what do you say you found. I get your theory that the mass deaths may not have been a virus in this case, being kind of anomalously and being everywhere all at once and killing people everywhere all at once.
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+Right, that's not, I mean, I've studied the history of plagues, you know, back to Justinian and it wasn't like that. It was this core, this town. Right, it wasn't now it's the Roman Empire.
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+Now it's not to this border. That's left over to, you know, it's unfortunate that they're biologically equating the plague with potential viral spread. I think there's good reason to believe that.
+
+45:38.000 --> 45:48.000
+Irrespective of what cartoon model is actually right, there's a different cartoon model for the plague and for a virus, regardless of what the real biology is, it's a different.
+
+45:48.000 --> 45:55.000
+Well, I mean, that is really a very unusual thing about this virus is that it seems to know where all the national boundaries are. Right, exactly.
+
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+I'm not buying that. But anyway, I'm going to head over to Jessica in a minute, but just as a sort of segue into that, just to point out our Italy analysis, which is one of kind of the most commented papers actually is the paper that I wrote in.
+
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+In September, October last year, which raised the question of whether there was actually evidence of spread or rather simultaneous imposition of a set of conditions on the population.
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+There was only so far we could go in terms of the Italy analysis, mainly for language reasons. It's quite difficult as an outsider to dig into the what data you need where you might get it.
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+Make FOI requests for your as you call them for your requests and so on. This is where I'm going to hand over to Jessica because what we've basically done is we've repeated that analysis or part of that analysis for New York City.
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+Okay, because one thing I'm just wanting to just make sure I understand everything you're saying your thesis is that it's not, it may not be COVID that killed all those people simultaneously all at once in Italy and now you're, you're about to explain in New York City.
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+It might have been a lockdown conditions, meaning isolation, horrible protocols and hospitals, fear, multi-generational households, whether it do I have that correct.
+
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+You do, yeah. There's an additional twist in the New York situation, which may also pertain to the Northern Italy situation, but we don't have enough information to interrogate a property.
+
+47:06.000 --> 47:08.000
+And the additional twist is that we are putting the authorities to proof.
+
+47:08.000 --> 47:09.000
+Right.
+
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+So is that the people actually died, the numbers being claimed actually died.
+
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+I love that and we'll get to that. I just need to ask one question.
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+Forgive me for stopping you so often.
+
+47:16.000 --> 47:19.000
+It's very important and I want to make, you know, if you're right, it's very important.
+
+47:19.000 --> 47:22.000
+I want to make sure everyone watching fully understands what you're saying.
+
+47:23.000 --> 47:32.000
+How could, if you're right, hypothetically, that it was the conditions of lockdown rather than the virus that suddenly killed all these people in Italy. And now we're going to talk about New York City in March of 2020.
+
+47:32.000 --> 47:36.000
+How could that happen so fast? Because lockdowns only started on New York on March 8th of 2020.
+
+47:36.000 --> 47:46.000
+Well, I mean, a lot of the Jessica will expand on this, but there are various different mechanisms. I mean, we've got two, two scenarios. One is that people died quickly.
+
+47:47.000 --> 47:57.000
+It's a, it's a suggestion that she's making the conditions of the lockdown. It's not the conditions of the lockdown. It's specifically the conditions in the hospital, the financial incentive.
+
+47:57.000 --> 48:02.000
+Administrative control of how to treat the novel virus.
+
+48:02.000 --> 48:10.000
+And so it's very specifically this faith in a novel virus that could be detected by a non specific PCR test.
+
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+And a list of bad ideas that go along with those things.
+
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+And so we need to be very specific and very precise. And we're not being very specific and being precise right now. So I hope they get there soon.
+
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+And that is explainable. In some places, well, there may be not to the total extent of the number of death claim that is explainable by some of the policies implemented.
+
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+I mean, first of all, what do you mean, like, how could like lockdowns are not going to kill people in three weeks, remdesivir and ventilators.
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+Correct. So I was going to come on to say there are a variety of things that could well have claimed people's lives prematurely.
+
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+You've got to remember that within any health, with any system where particularly when you have elderly people who are basically maintained by quite a complex social care and health care environment, it doesn't take much to tip those people over the edge.
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+And generate a peak of deaths. I mean, we see it with, we see it with heat waves.
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+48:56.000 --> 48:57.000
+Right.
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+You see it with heat waves. So people are, if you view the whole social care apparatus around elderly people, including their relatives, if you view that as their life support system, disrupt that will die.
+
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+Oh my gosh. And so immediately what I'm thinking about being a New Yorker is that our governor, I believe in March and April moved people with code infections into nursing care homes, which is totally unheard of.
+
+49:17.000 --> 49:19.000
+And then there was a rash of deaths in nursing care.
+
+49:19.000 --> 49:31.000
+There she made a mistake. She said people were moved into nursing homes with COVID infections, most likely they were moved into nursing homes with already with pneumonia with bacterial pneumonia.
+
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+And they weren't given antibiotics.
+
+49:34.000 --> 49:48.000
+And so it appears as though Naomi is still very much fighting for the faith that there was a novel virus that killed millions of people, or at least was around when millions of people died.
+
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+It was in the room. I mean, I guess we can agree that the virus didn't actually kill the old lady, but the virus was definitely here. Right.
+
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+And so I think you can see where giga ohm biologicals work is still far from done. In fact, it may be the Jessica and Jonathan and the rest of this panda team or whatever team this is with with Nick Hudson and and Martin Neil.
+
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+Maybe they're just missing this biology that we've been working on for the last three years and our contribution, you know, that's, that's in the book.
+
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+It's in the book. I'm going to keep showing it. It's one of the happiest days of my recent years here to have this book out and then to open to the pages and realize that this stuff that I really wanted to get in there all made it in.
+
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+And the best part is is that on the back, Robert Malone says this is an awesome book.
+
+50:46.000 --> 50:57.000
+So Robert Malone actually endorsed me, which is pretty dope. Like he doesn't know who I am, but he says that the book's pretty cool and it's historic documents. So this biology is pretty important.
+
+50:57.000 --> 51:02.000
+That's quite a review. You know what I mean?
+
+51:02.000 --> 51:08.000
+So anyway, let's keep listening. I like this interview. I'm glad I'm getting fired up about it. I'm glad I got fired up and about it in the beginning.
+
+51:08.000 --> 51:17.000
+And Jonathan Engler, if you saw it, then good. You know how fired up I am, but I'm sure you're going to pull it out and, and I'm just have overreacted. So let's go.
+
+51:17.000 --> 51:28.000
+So your hypothesis is that, and this is makes human sense. It makes intuitive sense that very elderly people are kept alive by networks and making sure they're being looked after, making sure they're getting their medication, taking their spirits up.
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+And if you look, hydrating them, hydrating them, if you look very elderly people away in isolation, you don't even need to mentally or when necessary for a lot of them to simply give up.
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+And I'm just trying this with a data point that I'm sure you can take into account that one of our colleagues analyze the death data for Massachusetts and found that the average COVID death was two years older than the average death.
+
+51:48.000 --> 52:00.000
+So they're counting people who are already as dying from COVID who are already at the end of their life spans, whereas I take your point, they may be hanging on by a thread, the thread that the extended if people love them and take care of them and can see them and keep them.
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+And so this is of course a very important time to bring in this idea that in the illusion of consensus is about a novel virus and that this effect that we see here that I'm circling with my, my arrow, this effect could only be a novel virus killing millions of people.
+
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+It can't possibly be the combination of protocols like the do not resuscitate orders and the ventilators and the lack of antibiotics and the poor use of steroids and remdesivir and opioid deaths and death certificate fraud.
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+It can't be any of that stuff.
+
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+It's just a novel virus, COVID.
+
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+And so we've got to roll back this idea by accurately accounting for what actually did take people out it does feel as though this is happening in this podcast.
+
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+And I hope that they can convert Naomi fully it'll be very interesting going and it may be cut together if you remove your support system.
+
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+So I will say have a saying that you know everything was COVID and COVID was everything in the sense that you know it's the every man's virus COVID so it's both sneaky and stealthy but then it explodes like a bomb.
+
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+It apparently is completely unique but then it causes every single symptom anybody can ever think.
+
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+Sorry, it's completely mad.
+
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+Thank you so much.
+
+53:26.000 --> 53:29.000
+Please pick up and tell us what you found specifically about what you looked at me.
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+53:29.000 --> 53:38.000
+Sure. So the New York City's spring 2020 mass casualty event even though I live in Chicago I don't live in New York has troubled me deeply since 2021 for sure.
+
+53:38.000 --> 53:47.000
+The data from New York and the casualty sustained in New York in 11 weeks 27,000 extra people died equivalent mortality wise of about 10, 911 events.
+
+53:48.000 --> 53:49.000
+According to whom.
+
+53:49.000 --> 53:50.000
+What were these?
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+53:50.000 --> 54:00.000
+According to data federal mortality database CDC wonder and according to data that I obtained directly from the New York City Department of health and mental hygiene their 2020 vital statistics report.
+
+54:00.000 --> 54:04.000
+I've got a lot of data from from them and other New York City agencies, especially on a daily basis.
+
+54:04.000 --> 54:09.000
+But you have about 2627,000 extra deaths in 11 weeks huge huge mortality event.
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+We do not have the names of the dead in fact journalistic efforts have only uncovered about that.
+
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+There are no death certificates.
+
+54:15.000 --> 54:20.000
+There's no way in New York state to get death certificates so that we can simply verify that this event occurred.
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+And I want to be clear about that too about my my contention or my suspicion is that we have a major fraud event at work with New York City.
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+And not just in terms of a cause of death with noise.
+
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+It's a COVID death was not not a COVID death, but in so far as what the city and the federal government are claiming about the number of people actually died each day on the ground in real time in the settings, but they are claimed to have occurred that that is my
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+54:41.000 --> 54:42.000
+question.
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+I think.
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+All right.
+
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+Wow.
+
+54:45.000 --> 54:46.000
+Strong words.
+
+54:46.000 --> 54:48.000
+So let me again try to understand exactly what you're saying.
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+54:48.000 --> 54:49.000
+You looked at.
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+54:49.000 --> 55:03.000
+Data for New York City from two government sources. One was federal CDC managed database and one was municipal, a New York City health and mental health.
+
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+Yeah. So we have so that's where the all cause mortality, but then we have multiple what I've been doing, especially with the past year and a half or so in earnest is gathering multiple and different kinds of data, not just that's data.
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+55:13.000 --> 55:26.000
+But ambulance dispatch data, hospital occupancy data, emergency room data 911 call data to really try to understand what the heck happened here. Why doesn't anybody want to talk about it and do all these data points fit.
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+55:26.000 --> 55:31.000
+We have this massive spike that happened nowhere else in magnitude or speed.
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+When you say this massive spike, you're talking about the 27,000 extra deaths higher than expected in what time period in the time period.
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+55:39.000 --> 55:52.000
+In the time period of mid March, 2020 to the end of May, 2020, most of that, most of that mortality occurred within about four to five weeks, though, use that like a week period as the spring 2020 event.
+
+55:52.000 --> 56:00.000
+Okay. So jumping in, do the municipal data about these 27,000 purported extra deaths match the CDC data about the purported action.
+
+56:00.000 --> 56:01.000
+No, not exactly.
+
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+It's a little complicated to explain, but there are discrepancies.
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+I've written about them on my, on my sub stack on the order of maybe a thousand or so deaths. So it's not, it's a significant number, but it's not an explanation for the 27,000.
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+That important. All right. Moving on. You're saying that you're trying to identify these individuals by death certificate. Is that correct?
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+56:19.000 --> 56:23.000
+Well, no, I'm saying these individuals have not been identified.
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+Who hasn't identified them? Nobody has identified identified them.
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+It's not due to medical privacy laws.
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+56:30.000 --> 56:41.000
+No, no, no, no, not necessarily a vital record is different from a medical record. In many states, you can obtain that certificates via FOIA, even with names on them.
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+That's not the case with the names in every state, but with some, some people like Minnesota, I think somebody obtained every death certificate.
+
+56:46.000 --> 56:51.000
+Just the basics, right. So in some died on this day, these are attributed causes and this is where they die.
+
+56:51.000 --> 56:53.000
+You can't even get that in New York City.
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+56:54.000 --> 56:58.000
+But when it comes to jumping in, what is this an anomaly? Would you have been in the past?
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+56:58.000 --> 57:06.000
+Let me connect with you. This is the largest mass casualty event in New York City ever. And I would say almost in any, in any city in US history ever.
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+And there is no proof of these deaths. We have.
+
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+Again, I've got to jump in. I'm sorry.
+
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+I'm asking if that's an anomaly, meaning if you were to FOIA, the 3000 people who were said to have died in the Twin Towers on 9 11.
+
+57:20.000 --> 57:24.000
+Would Jessica Pocket have been able to FOIA proof of all those individuals death?
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+57:24.000 --> 57:28.000
+Not so for 9 11, 9 11, they released the names.
+
+57:28.000 --> 57:39.000
+No one verified them to my knowledge the way you are wanting. I'm asking if we need either names of all these people who are alleged to have died during this event and or death certificates preferably both.
+
+57:39.000 --> 57:50.000
+So I've looked at the databases for these purported deaths from my book, The Bodies of Others. I saw what you saw, which is totally unverifiable because they are strings of numbers rather than any individual names.
+
+57:50.000 --> 58:04.000
+What I'm saying is, is that a departure? Isn't that standard practice in a tech company? So I'm asking this cut from a nerdy point of view or data stats where you have to conceal people's identity for privacy reasons, you would as a coder assign them a number.
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+58:05.000 --> 58:17.000
+In Illinois, I could get every death certificate if I submitted a FOIA. So I'm saying it varies from state to state, and in New York state, current law does not permit me to get death certificates in the same way that John Baldwin did for Massachusetts.
+
+58:17.000 --> 58:32.000
+But I think more broadly, and this is really important, is that the government should not be able to claim that an event occurred without especially one of this magnitude, especially when it was used to scare the world, lack of children and hurt people, force them to take a magazine and not have to prove the event.
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+It's true as the life and that the death certificates to my knowledge have not been attempted to be obtained, but we have a list of names at the very least.
+
+58:38.000 --> 58:46.000
+All right, so now I understand. So you are balked by the fact that these data sets, which is indeed frustrating, are strings of numbers rather than names.
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+58:46.000 --> 58:53.000
+And you don't know if these are real people. You're saying that this death pattern departs from what you'd expect to see.
+
+58:53.000 --> 59:00.000
+I understand that due to privacy laws in New York state, they don't have to release the names of these individuals to you, right, even with even with FOIA.
+
+59:00.000 --> 59:06.000
+So I guess what I'm trying to understand is, therefore, this is the point you've reached where you're saying this is an anomaly. We can't confirm these people.
+
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+Now we're asking New York City authorities to verify that these people are real people who actually died. Is that correct?
+
+59:11.000 --> 59:21.000
+Sure. Yeah, that's a big piece of it. And the different data sets and data points don't fit together. One example is that New York City hospitals claimed in the media claim that New York City hospitals were overrun with patients.
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+They were not overrun with patients visits to the emergency department plummeted 60%. And at the same time, we have an extra 20,000 or we had not extra 20,000 excuse me, extra maybe 16 or 17,000.
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+59:33.000 --> 59:43.000
+I'm pulling the number from my head of people who died during that period. If you're in City hospitals, put it differently. New York City shows an occupancy. So that means, you know, how many patients were in beds.
+
+59:43.000 --> 59:45.000
+They show a peak occupancy in that period of 20,000.
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+Their data show about 20,000 inpatient died.
+
+59:48.000 --> 59:49.000
+Wow.
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+59:49.000 --> 59:53.000
+It would be the biggest mass casualty event by far in a hospital system anywhere. Imagine just picture that.
+
+59:53.000 --> 59:54.000
+Yeah.
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+59:54.000 --> 59:56.000
+No, I understand a little bit.
+
+59:56.000 --> 01:00:04.000
+Just to correct something that you said, if you don't mind name, you gave the impression that we had access to kind of anonymized roles, role calls of the people died.
+
+01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:05.000
+We don't even have that.
+
+01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:06.000
+Okay.
+
+01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:11.000
+It's not like you said strings of numbers replacing names. We don't have even that or we have our totals on especially.
+
+01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:12.000
+That's not okay.
+
+01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:13.000
+No, it's not okay.
+
+01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:17.000
+The New York Times has more than that. Right. I mean, at a state level, they have.
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+01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:33.000
+Data sets where each individual reportedly has a line. So you really, so that that's really a smoking gun there because you really can't check line by line, right? You can't check that this individual who was said to have died in Queens on March 22 matches an individual matches a death in Queens.
+
+01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:34.000
+Right.
+
+01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:42.000
+So interesting. So is that the case for both sources of data that both the CDC and the municipal authorities are just giving totals and not individualized spreadsheets? Is that correct?
+
+01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:43.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:52.000
+By individualized spreadsheet, you mean like line by line death. Right. I mean, CDC wonder, you cannot search individual CDC wonders the federal database. It's like where all the death certificates go or the data from them.
+
+01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.000
+And you can't search necessarily individual deaths. Right.
+
+01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:57.000
+See, to see what a death certificate says.
+
+01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.000
+To be clear, we're not talking about releasing autopsies for everybody who had an autopsy.
+
+01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:00.000
+That's not what I'm asking.
+
+01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:03.000
+Just asking if every individual death has a line on a spreadsheet and we're getting it.
+
+01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:04.000
+No, we do not.
+
+01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:08.000
+We do not have that for New York state or New York city and it's not obtainable under under state law.
+
+01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:09.000
+All right.
+
+01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:10.000
+So let thank you for explaining.
+
+01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:12.000
+So, um,
+
+01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:13.000
+Dev is advocate.
+
+01:01:13.000 --> 01:01:22.000
+People I knew who worked in pharmacies in high death areas said that a lot of people were being found dead at home and never meet into the hospital.
+
+01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:24.000
+Could that help explain the anomalies that you're seeing?
+
+01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:32.000
+Yep. And I'm going to be writing about that further in the coming weeks, but I'm really high percentage of a really high increase in deaths occurring at home very quickly in New York city.
+
+01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:43.000
+And what I, what I found is that people did call 911 911 calls were they spiked crazy and immediately with the 15 days to slow this rent ambulance dispatch data.
+
+01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:46.000
+We have some anomalies in that data that another associate and I are exploring.
+
+01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:50.000
+We're getting a lot of run around from the fire department of New York on the anomalies that we see.
+
+01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:57.000
+But ambulances were dispatched, but dispatches transporting patients from the point of pickup to somewhere else, like to the hospital.
+
+01:01:57.000 --> 01:01:58.000
+We're down.
+
+01:01:58.000 --> 01:01:59.000
+Whoa.
+
+01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:00.000
+Down.
+
+01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:03.000
+Ambulance is pronounced dispatches pronounce patient dead.
+
+01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:04.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:05.000
+Holy cow.
+
+01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:10.000
+So, I mean, arguably people would choose not to go into a hospital in New York at that time.
+
+01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:11.000
+Trust me, I lived in New York.
+
+01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:12.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:13.000
+Well, they were told to stay home.
+
+01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:14.000
+They were told to stay home.
+
+01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:15.000
+That doesn't explain.
+
+01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:16.000
+Would that explain deaths at home?
+
+01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:19.000
+Would those be people who would have died anyway, but chosen to go to the hospital.
+
+01:02:19.000 --> 01:02:20.000
+And I think there's some of that.
+
+01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:23.000
+And I used to think that that was almost entirely an explanation.
+
+01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:26.000
+I mean, you think about a guy, even who lives in a rent control apartment on the upper east side.
+
+01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:28.000
+You know, and you tell him to stay home and suddenly he's not going out.
+
+01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:29.000
+He's petrified, right?
+
+01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:31.000
+Like, could he have a health event?
+
+01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:32.000
+Yes.
+
+01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:33.000
+Absolutely.
+
+01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:43.000
+But through our research, we found that ambulances and EMS was given, they were given orders that directed them away from bringing people to the hospital under two offices, one under the hospital.
+
+01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:44.000
+And we have the orders themselves.
+
+01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:48.000
+Two offices were hospitals are overrun and we don't want the hospitals to be overrun.
+
+01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:50.000
+We want to control and we want to control spread.
+
+01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:59.000
+So the specific directive that was given about a cardiac arrest, patients in cardiac arrest was basically, and I'm summarizing here, don't administer life saving measures.
+
+01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:01.000
+It was basically what EMS were told.
+
+01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:03.000
+And the orders that were given.
+
+01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:04.000
+Yeah.
+
+01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:08.000
+Don't administer them even in the person's home.
+
+01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:09.000
+Right.
+
+01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:11.000
+So not, not don't administer at all.
+
+01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:19.000
+That's not quite what the orders say, but there's the directives are written in such a way where there's discouragement on administering full life saving procedures to cardiac arrest patients.
+
+01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:25.000
+Almost a kind of DNR in the home or in or say, in the woman at the point of the pickup.
+
+01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:26.000
+She's correct.
+
+01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:36.000
+So, arguably, empty workers are being instructed not to do everything possible to help save someone dying of their sick with heart attack in your home.
+
+01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:37.000
+Okay.
+
+01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:40.000
+So make sure that you realize that we've had that, right?
+
+01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:42.000
+We're there.
+
+01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:54.000
+We are there with our little graph, right? Do not resuscitate orders are at the top of this graph because they are very important for, for the initial bomb going off in a lot of these places.
+
+01:03:54.000 --> 01:04:11.000
+And the act of making one of the bombs go off in one of these places around the United States and around the world is a combination of fear, confusion, and a illusion of consensus about a novel virus that's very deadly.
+
+01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:15.000
+Detectable with a PCR test.
+
+01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:30.000
+And requiring of ridiculous protocols that are often deadly, or at least will be deadly because they make assumptions about respiratory disease that we've never made before.
+
+01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:39.000
+That include ventilators, the lack of antibiotics and poor use of steroids and maybe even remdesivir.
+
+01:04:39.000 --> 01:04:46.000
+And so that, that difference, I guess that's going to be tricky. I need a button for that one.
+
+01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:52.000
+That difference is gigantic.
+
+01:04:52.000 --> 01:05:07.000
+And now that we're telling this story correctly and now that we have Jessica to explain how did it happen in New York, because ladies and gentlemen, let's face it, if New York hadn't happened, people wouldn't have believed it.
+
+01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:16.000
+If Italy hadn't happened, people wouldn't believe it. If whatever happened in Iran was not at least reported, people wouldn't believe it.
+
+01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:26.000
+If those people, with those videos that went viral, people dropping onto the, onto the floor in all different places in China wouldn't have gone viral.
+
+01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:30.000
+There wouldn't have been this worst case scenario potential at the beginning.
+
+01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:35.000
+And it was so vital for there to be a worst case scenario potential at the beginning.
+
+01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:40.000
+And it was created by this bump right there in New York.
+
+01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:45.000
+And these bumps that are created by protocols.
+
+01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:49.000
+By treating people as though they had something else.
+
+01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:59.000
+A new cause of death, a novel virus.
+
+01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:03.000
+Or some eyes, then is that classified as a COVID death? Like, how does this relate to COVID?
+
+01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:07.000
+Well, yeah, we have that data to suggest that.
+
+01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:15.000
+That some people who made who died of cardiac arrest or heart deaths in their home, if they were tested, if they tested positive, if the body tested positive, then it was counted as a COVID death.
+
+01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:20.000
+And if not, it wasn't. But the biggest increase in those weeks in home deaths is is heart death.
+
+01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:22.000
+Oh my gosh.
+
+01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:27.000
+Basically, this is no series. So you're, this, now you've really got another smoking guy.
+
+01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:31.000
+He's explaining and no wonder you're getting the run around from a department, pardon me.
+
+01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:37.000
+People were given who are nearly would have saved people's lives were having cardiac symptoms and or brought them to the hospital.
+
+01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:40.000
+We're being told essentially not to do everything possible to save their lives and not to bring them to the hospital.
+
+01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:44.000
+Then these people died and that's part of the 27,000 spike and on the spike and death.
+
+01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:49.000
+By the way, it's worth pointing out that there are studies that show that during periods of high stress and war.
+
+01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:57.000
+So, for example, post 9-11, there are some, there are some studies showing that there were spike, there are definite spikes in acute cardiac episodes, my cardiolent options.
+
+01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:06.000
+And that's just for a, you know, a relatively short sort of period of fear and dystopia. This went on for weeks and was relentless, the stress on people, absolutely relentless.
+
+01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:07.000
+Right.
+
+01:07:07.000 --> 01:07:16.000
+And let's not, let's not miss the ball here and make sure that we understand that all of those heart attacks were immediately attributed to the virus.
+
+01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:40.000
+And may I point out that people like Paul Offit and people like Peter McCullough will both tell you that the virus, the Wuhan spike causes myocarditis and has caused heart attacks.
+
+01:07:41.000 --> 01:08:05.000
+They will most certainly tell you that and we still need to dispel this enchantment that somehow there was a virus that did this because what Jessica Hockett has uncovered here is also this absolute enchantment that these young people and old people were having heart attacks due to this virus.
+
+01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:09.000
+And why is that so diabolical, ladies and gentlemen?
+
+01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:20.000
+It's diabolical because they knew that when they rolled out this transfection that heart problems would be one of the major signals.
+
+01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:28.000
+And so they had to see a narrative about the virus already being able to cause that.
+
+01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:41.000
+How many of you in the audience have heard that Ralph Barrick was developing a coronavirus that could cause myocarditis and rabbits?
+
+01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:47.000
+How long have they been trying to get these lipid nanoparticles to go somewhere and been failing at it?
+
+01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:53.000
+Five postdocs? Is that what Peter Callis said? What is that? 10 years? 20 years? 15 years?
+
+01:08:53.000 --> 01:08:56.000
+He says we're still 20 to 40 years out.
+
+01:08:56.000 --> 01:09:03.000
+So you don't think that they figured out some of the major problems of lipid nanoparticle transfection were?
+
+01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:12.000
+You don't think that they tried to already maybe make up some other stories about where myocarditis might come from?
+
+01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:16.000
+Oh, coronaviruses can cause myocarditis. Look at that.
+
+01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:20.000
+Oh, isn't that interesting?
+
+01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:26.000
+You gotta see it for what it is, ladies and gentlemen, and let it be like acid.
+
+01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:34.000
+And let it dissolve everything that it can dissolve. These lies, once they go away, it's like cotton candy in the rain.
+
+01:09:34.000 --> 01:09:39.000
+There's nothing left but a pink stain.
+
+01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:45.000
+And once you see it for what it is, this theater was intricate, ladies and gentlemen, it was not random.
+
+01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:48.000
+They knew what they were doing.
+
+01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:52.000
+And they knew that they were going to plan to do a do not resuscitate drill.
+
+01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:58.000
+And when they did that, do not resuscitate drill, and they financially incentivize these people to call that COVID.
+
+01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:03.000
+You're dang right, they reported it on the news.
+
+01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:11.000
+And why did they report it on the news? Because they wanted to tell you a story for a year and a half about how toxic the spike protein was.
+
+01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:20.000
+Holy cow, it's a spike protein. It's dangerous. It's got all kinds of new things in it.
+
+01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:25.000
+And it binds the ACE2 receptor.
+
+01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:30.000
+Boy, we sure chose a dumb protein in 45 minutes, didn't we there?
+
+01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.000
+Murdera scientists.
+
+01:10:33.000 --> 01:10:38.000
+Boy, if we had to chose the end protein, everything would be fine now, wouldn't it?
+
+01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:50.000
+Don't you see? We've got to spike this football. We've got to make this touchdown. We cannot just have fourth down and goal and not make it.
+
+01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:58.000
+So we've got to go all the way through. You cannot get to the point where you say that we just didn't resuscitate people for heart attacks for a month.
+
+01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:07.000
+And that contributed to the 27,000 people that died over 11 weeks and the 20,000 people that died in four weeks.
+
+01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:24.000
+Without mentioning that that allowed them to tell a nationwide and global story about how a virus from Luhan was spreading in New York City and causing an abrupt rise in cardiac arrest.
+
+01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:29.000
+Yeah, for sure. Okay. Well, that's a huge chunk.
+
+01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:35.000
+One more piece to that that I did not know and discovered only within the past six weeks or so.
+
+01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:43.000
+There were, I'll call them reimbursements that the federal government gave to ambulances for not, I'll say for not coming to the hospital.
+
+01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:48.000
+So normally an ambulance company would get certain reimbursements or payments when you transport a patient to the hospital, right?
+
+01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:54.000
+But these ambulances were being directed or encouraged to not bring people to the hospital, but they were still reimbursed as though they did.
+
+01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:57.000
+Right. So that incentivizes them not really to make.
+
+01:11:57.000 --> 01:12:02.000
+That's a pretty magnificent financial incentive. Now, isn't it?
+
+01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:11.000
+Who are they giving those financial incentives to? Are people that ride around an ambulance is really well paid?
+
+01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:20.000
+And so are they pretty easy to order a round or to incentivize during a perceived health care crisis?
+
+01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:30.000
+And so look at how easy this circus was run. Look at how easy this was accomplished.
+
+01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:38.000
+But they had the cruise ship and they had 10 set up.
+
+01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:43.000
+But then they didn't bring anybody in.
+
+01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:49.000
+It's just so wicked. It's just so absolutely wicked. It's it. It can't even believe it.
+
+01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:54.000
+And we are three years out and we're just finally pulling our head out.
+
+01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:56.000
+Holy man.
+
+01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:57.000
+That's exactly right.
+
+01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:59.000
+If you subsidize something, you get more of it.
+
+01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:05.000
+Right. Of course. So, so hospitals, I mean, interesting questions were hospitals making more visits than usual because they would have had the chance to go here.
+
+01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:07.000
+This person's dead. Go here. This person's dead. Go here.
+
+01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:10.000
+Rather than spending two or three hours getting someone to the hospital and going back out.
+
+01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:15.000
+Can you read, can you say that again? It's another question. It's just if hospital.
+
+01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:23.000
+I'm wondering if the empty visits in a given day and up because they did not have to bring the patient to the hospital in order to make the same amount of money.
+
+01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:29.000
+You mean the dispatches? The dispatches. Yeah. In other words, you can see 15 people in their homes in a day.
+
+01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:33.000
+If you're not bringing them to the hospital, maybe seven in a day. If you're going back and forth to the hospital.
+
+01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:42.000
+Sure. I mean, and from the hospital end, like we know that the ER's where the ER visits were down. Well, ambulance dispatches transporting patients will give you a certain percentage.
+
+01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:48.000
+I think in New York, we figured out it was like at least 25% if you just do the ratios, you know, would be people brought by an ambulance.
+
+01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:49.000
+Understand.
+
+01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:55.000
+I have no doubt that people were staying away from the hospital. But again, when you look at the 911 call data, it goes way up.
+
+01:13:55.000 --> 01:13:59.000
+People were calling for help. Help was coming, but help was not helping.
+
+01:13:59.000 --> 01:14:06.000
+And help was incentivized not to help. That's really scary and disturbing. All right, do you have anything else that suggests that these.
+
+01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:08.000
+This anomalous spike has something fishy about it.
+
+01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:18.000
+You know, I think I think one thing and this is feedback that Jonathan and I get a lot of things that sort of wakes people up when they finally realize it when I'm showing them different things on Twitter, wherever is the number of young adults deaths during this time.
+
+01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:35.000
+Very quickly. And the number of young adults or younger, I should say, adults by 50 ages, what 25 to 54, the number of younger adult deaths in hospitals, nearly all of which were attributed to COVID, which doesn't make sense, because this is not even a generous definition or thought about how deadly
+
+01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:56.000
+those are present in this time period, you would not have seen a very high proportion of young deaths. And it just, you know, as I say, a quick spat on that, which I find extraordinary is that 25% of all the COVID attributed deaths in the USA occurred in New York City when, in fact, only 3% of the people in that age group.
+
+01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:25.000
+That's a very spectacular stat that can't be that can't be repeated enough 25% of the age group between 25 and 45 that attributed to dying of COVID 25% of them in the United States were in New York City.
+
+01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:53.000
+I mean, that's, that's a, that's it. That's the ball game right there. And if you think about who was in charge in New York City these past years, I mean, if you think about the kinds of rhetoric and the kinds of things that were going on, the things that they did to their EMTs and the things that, I mean, they're police officers, this is some serious, serious stuff.
+
+01:15:53.000 --> 01:16:05.000
+What I find a little odd and disturbing is that somebody from Chicago is the one who's figured it out in 2023 and not somebody in New York in 2020 and 21.
+
+01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:19.000
+That's what I find very impressive. New York is not a small bureaucracy. New York is not a small town. New York is not a place where people don't know about corruption.
+
+01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:27.000
+So I am actually pretty shocked that we are in 2023 and someone from Chicago is the one who's pushing this story forward.
+
+01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:29.000
+Isn't there a whistleblower?
+
+01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:35.000
+Aren't there a thousand whistleblowers in New York City who want to fight for their where they grew up?
+
+01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:39.000
+What the hell is going on in New York City?
+
+01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:44.000
+Where is the old school Italians? Where are the old school?
+
+01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:56.000
+You know, I'm trying to think of people that I stereotypically think of as living in New York City for generations.
+
+01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:01.000
+Is there a Chinatown in New York City? I don't know. Is there a Koreatown in New York City? I don't know.
+
+01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:09.000
+A population in New York City that's been there a long time that would fight for the city and fight for truth and justice?
+
+01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:15.000
+Isn't there a whistleblower that lives there that could just fix this problem?
+
+01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:22.000
+Or is it really exactly as bad as that repair guy, Louis Rossman, says it is in New York City?
+
+01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:25.000
+Holy man, it's depressing to me.
+
+01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:32.000
+It's 2023. There should be hundreds of whistleblowers by now coming out and saying, wow.
+
+01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:36.000
+Where are the EMTs?
+
+01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:40.000
+Dang it.
+
+01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:52.000
+Okay, so you're saying a disproportionate number of younger adults died in New York and you expect to see given that only 3% of the US population of that age group lives in New York.
+
+01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:57.000
+Or what evidence do you have supporting? Is it just an anomaly in the data?
+
+01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:01.000
+It's an anomaly, which is just yet another data point which we're putting the authorities to prove.
+
+01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:08.000
+How does that happen? I mean, I'll be explained by social factors because New York is not a poor city.
+
+01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:11.000
+Can't be explained by obesity. New York is not particularly obese compared to some other places.
+
+01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:13.000
+There's no rational explanation for it.
+
+01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:16.000
+Was it claimed that these were COVID deaths?
+
+01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:17.000
+Yeah, it was.
+
+01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:21.000
+Well, I know that the media was desperate to produce young healthy COVID.
+
+01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:24.000
+So let's go now unless there's anything else you want to make sure to bring forward.
+
+01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:26.000
+We're running on time in the last couple of minutes.
+
+01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:30.000
+Let's highlight how you're putting the authorities on notice because given HIPAA protections,
+
+01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:33.000
+it's going to be hard to drag them into the data account for these anomalies.
+
+01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:35.000
+What are your plans or what's underway?
+
+01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:38.000
+I think the first thing that we're trying to do is to continue.
+
+01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:39.000
+I have a lot of data.
+
+01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:43.000
+I have a lot of correspondence with different New York City agencies that I'm trying to put out a little bit at a time.
+
+01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:47.000
+I'm fighting a New York health and hospital on a data that they refused to release, but should.
+
+01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:53.000
+So I'm sort of simultaneously keep investigating and trying to get exposure through the channels that I can.
+
+01:18:53.000 --> 01:19:01.000
+It can be difficult when even fellow anti mandate people don't seem to want to talk about New York City 2020 or early 2020 at all and say what the heck happened.
+
+01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:09.000
+You brought up Remdesivir and ventilators and I don't dispute that, but we don't even have data on how many New York City hospital patients were given Remdesivir.
+
+01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:16.000
+I've done several articles on the ventilators. I'm sorry to say we don't have the data that we need to say even how many people were put on ventilators.
+
+01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:21.000
+I'm sorry to understand and emphasize what the hurdles facing you and I admire your persistence.
+
+01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:28.000
+I'm asking, you know, a practical question, right, given HIPAA law, which they're going to say keeps them from telling you exactly who died.
+
+01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:38.000
+And the mechanism of FOIA, which I'm not sure you're using right, what mechanism are you like apart from badgering people and trying to get exposure for this anomaly, which I applaud and that'll move dial a little bit.
+
+01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:40.000
+You really need more data right there.
+
+01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:46.000
+We need more data and we need more people who care about this. This shouldn't be just a Jessica Hockett Jonathan angler thing. This should enrage really.
+
+01:19:46.000 --> 01:19:49.000
+Well, we're on your show.
+
+01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:55.000
+I mean, I'll go on and talk to anybody. I'll debate anyone. I'll talk to anybody. I'll put a grasp to anyone. I'm not a media strategist.
+
+01:19:55.000 --> 01:20:02.000
+You tell me, I really don't know how to get people to care about this. If there's a mass casual, the biggest mass casualty event in New York City history, and we don't have proof of it.
+
+01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:13.000
+I really like what she said there. And I really feel as though that's, that's the reaction of someone who's genuinely seen the alien and is annoyed by it.
+
+01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:29.000
+That's the only genuine reaction to this. You've got to be annoyed by it. If you're excited by it, if you're proud of your theory, if you're excited by what you're doing because this is such an interesting time to be alive, then you're not really seeing the alien.
+
+01:20:30.000 --> 01:20:37.000
+You haven't really touched the elephant from enough sides to know how dangerous this is, how little room in the room is left.
+
+01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:56.000
+And if you're not, you know, a little bit like annoyed when somebody like Naomi Wolf, who's been apparently out in front of this from the very beginning with Steve Bannon, asks you what your plan is. How do you move this ball forward?
+
+01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:03.000
+And you have to exasperatedly say, well, I'm on your show. I'm trying to do something about it. You tell me.
+
+01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:20.000
+The frustrating thing about it is, is I'm not confident that Naomi Wolf is working on our team. If I had to put Naomi Wolf on the graph, I would put Naomi Wolf on the pink outside where there's this, she's part of this narrative. She tried pretty hard.
+
+01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:30.000
+What about in these, what about in these high death areas where people were dying all of all ages of COVID? What about these high death areas?
+
+01:21:34.000 --> 01:21:45.000
+So there was a complete insistence on reasserting that there was a novel virus for which we were all vulnerable that millions of people died from and millions more were saved from and might have been gained a function.
+
+01:21:46.000 --> 01:22:10.000
+Naomi Wolf's not going to let that go. And so you could hear her fight for it. And now you hear a real genuine, exasperated Jessica say, I don't know what to do. I'm not a, I'm not a press strategist. Tell me what to do. I just want people to understand this so that they are moved to take action somehow. Where is a New Yorker, she said?
+
+01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:26.000
+I think all the questions you're asking are legitimate for what it's worth in the bodies of others. I found that the New York Times was able falsely to claim that there were so many dead people that we needed refrigerated more trucks by not reporting the fact that there had been a stoppage from the governor on barriers.
+
+01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:30.000
+Right. So I'm entirely willing. I think these are very important questions.
+
+01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:39.000
+You know, I want to see you succeed in getting answers because they affect all of us. They were critical to full narrative. And, you know, again, I'm a New Yorker. This was a very painful, awful time. And if people were doing bad things like not resuscitating.
+
+01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:47.000
+People having heart attacks in their homes. That is, you know, really, really important. I guess what I'm saying is we can certainly spread the word you're missing.
+
+01:22:47.000 --> 01:22:51.000
+What word are you going to spread Naomi?
+
+01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:56.000
+What is the word you're going to spread that there was an anomaly?
+
+01:22:56.000 --> 01:23:15.000
+Or are you going to spread the word that Denny Rankor and Jessica Hockett and Jonathan Engler and Martin Neil and Nick Hudson and Jonathan Cooey and a lot of other people have built a mountain of corroborating evidence, which suggests that there is no biology
+
+01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:25.000
+and there is no statistics and there are no data to support the idea of an RNA coronavirus pandemic that started from a point.
+
+01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:40.000
+And spread around the world. See, part of what we didn't say in this discussion about what this theory is, is that the biology doesn't support releasing a small quantity of an RNA virus in a point in Wuhan.
+
+01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:46.000
+And having that virus spread by any means, airplanes, I don't care what.
+
+01:23:46.000 --> 01:24:04.000
+It's not possible for that RNA to copy itself with such high fidelity that the same sequence can be found in multiple cultural patients on multiple continents over multiple months after the original release in a market.
+
+01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:08.000
+It's just not possible.
+
+01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:20.000
+And so what these individuals have found are individual events and datasets which seem to support the larger thesis that there was no spread.
+
+01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:35.000
+And if there's no spread, then we need to come up with an alternative explanation for the purported molecular signals upon which the conclusion of a pandemic in progress was based.
+
+01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:43.000
+And so what are we going to do? Well, hopefully Naomi Wolf would start telling everybody this all the time on every one of her talk shows.
+
+01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:51.000
+Every one of her interviews would start out with, well, did you hear the theory of how the pandemic work has been at worked has been updated.
+
+01:24:51.000 --> 01:24:57.000
+The biology of the pandemic has been updated. The epidemiology of the pandemic has been updated.
+
+01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:14.000
+I'm extremely curious as to why Jessica Hockett and Jonathan Engler aren't going to say, and they might say it still, that we have another independent researcher by the name of Denny Rancour and his colleagues in Canada and at Harvard,
+
+01:25:14.000 --> 01:25:27.000
+which have tried to assemble their own datasets on all cause mortality and do their own analysis and have come to very similar conclusions about the lack of evidence for spread.
+
+01:25:27.000 --> 01:25:43.000
+And in fact, in their data, they are able to show that this lack of spread actually respects borders of states, countries, even counties.
+
+01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:55.000
+And so what are you going to do? You're going to add all these observations up. You're not going to say that I came up with this idea on my own and I looked at it to Italy.
+
+01:25:55.000 --> 01:26:10.000
+That's not getting the idea out there. Getting the idea out there is that me and a lot of other people have come up with individual examples of how all cause mortality doesn't support the spread of a new cause of death.
+
+01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:24.000
+And this other friend of mine has come up with a whole bunch of evolutionary reasons and simulations for how a new cause of death that was released at a point would spread in a certain manner and we didn't see that certain manner, not even close.
+
+01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:30.000
+And then I have this other friend who has this other idea about it in New York City and she hasn't found anything either.
+
+01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:37.000
+And then we have this other guy who presented at Panda, who's from Canada, who found the same thing in 18 countries now.
+
+01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:52.000
+And there's this really interesting theory from this biologist named Jonathan Cooe who thinks about RNA is being very imprecise and unable to high fidelity copy itself for millions and trillions of times.
+
+01:26:52.000 --> 01:27:08.000
+And that he's identified this alternative technique that they've used that's actually eerily parallel to the way that the mRNA vaccines were made, but instead that they can make whole coronavirus genomes in this way and make a pure quantity of them that could never exist in nature.
+
+01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:18.000
+It's a really intriguing explanation for how this sequence could have been seeded around the world and the illusion of a pandemic could have been created.
+
+01:27:19.000 --> 01:27:26.000
+See how easy I can summarize everybody's ideas all at once into like a five minute elevator pitch.
+
+01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:37.000
+And do you see how wonderfully perfectly timed it is for the release of this book and the biology that's in it.
+
+01:27:37.000 --> 01:27:47.000
+You're about to hit a series of grand slams, ladies and gentlemen, and you are a part of it because you've been here with GIGO and biological for quite a long time.
+
+01:27:47.000 --> 01:27:52.000
+You've watched us struggle in this cave. You've watched us backtrack. You've watched us.
+
+01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:54.000
+Yeah, you watched.
+
+01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:58.000
+You've been here for it. A lot of you have supported me.
+
+01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:04.000
+I wouldn't be here without those people, without you people sharing my work.
+
+01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:12.000
+And these people are fighting the right fight. Jessica and Jonathan anyway.
+
+01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:19.000
+And we've just got it. We've got to sharpen our swords. We've got to sharpen our messages. We've got to broaden our message.
+
+01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:25.000
+And we've got to not be afraid to promote other people.
+
+01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:30.000
+We've got to promote each other.
+
+01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:33.000
+Like Jessica promotes me.
+
+01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:42.000
+Like Nick Hudson promotes me. We've got to promote each other. The people that we trust.
+
+01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:45.000
+And otherwise we're not going to win.
+
+01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:48.000
+I'm going to listen to last little bit and then I'm going to close it out.
+
+01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:51.000
+Some critical piece of information that the authorities are not going to give you right voluntarily.
+
+01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:55.000
+So I think Panda needs to sue for the rest of the information, right?
+
+01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:59.000
+We can certainly put you in touch with lawyers who will do that if you don't have your lawyers in house.
+
+01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:06.000
+But apart from that, I can't really think of what else you can do except exhaust yourselves asking these people who may have committed a giant fraud to produce more information.
+
+01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:08.000
+Am I missing something?
+
+01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:09.000
+No, you're not.
+
+01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:15.000
+I wish I wish more people cared about what happened in 2020 since it was used to coerce, you know, force medical treatments on millions of people.
+
+01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:16.000
+What the heck?
+
+01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:35.000
+What I'm trying to say is that I'm not going to amplify this idea and I am personally, you know, my comfort and fame is all dependent on me not acknowledging that the faith in a novel virus that killed millions of people.
+
+01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:41.000
+And likely was gained a function. It could come again. I'm not allowed to question that.
+
+01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:51.000
+So I'm just wondering how you guys are going to manage to get this message out if people like me are going to hear it, but then never actually repeat it.
+
+01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:56.000
+So if you go on other people's podcasts and they do the same thing as me, it's actually not going to do you any good.
+
+01:29:56.000 --> 01:30:00.000
+So I just don't want you guys to go crazy banging your head against the wall.
+
+01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:04.000
+I mean, you have to realize that most people aren't allowed to question the faith.
+
+01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:09.000
+That's what she should be saying to Jessica.
+
+01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:12.000
+That's what she is saying to Jessica.
+
+01:30:12.000 --> 01:30:23.000
+And to share with love, you know, as someone who's, who's been in the trenches a long exhausting time, you know, as you have no doubt as Panda has is everyone listening, especially New Yorkers cares about what you just said.
+
+01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:32.000
+But there are missing pieces before it can be news, right, before it can enter the phone news dream and before there can be hearings, for instance, or lawsuits, right.
+
+01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:38.000
+And so to get those missing pieces, right, we need to find out if you're asking a provocative question to 27,000 people really die and hope that the answer is yes.
+
+01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:41.000
+I'm asking it 27,000 people extra people actually.
+
+01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:42.000
+Right.
+
+01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:44.000
+Did you hear her?
+
+01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:52.000
+Did you hear how how brilliantly she resurrected the faith in COVID and the people that died.
+
+01:30:52.000 --> 01:31:02.000
+What question is Jessica asking according to Naomi Wolf did 27,000 people die of COVID and that is not.
+
+01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:06.000
+That is not the question that Jessica is asking. Listen.
+
+01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:10.000
+Pieces before it can be news, right, before it can enter the phone news dream.
+
+01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:14.000
+And before there can be hearings, for instance, or lawsuits, right.
+
+01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:22.000
+And so to get those missing pieces, right, we need to find out if you're asking a provocative question to 27,000 people really die and hope that the answer is yes.
+
+01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:27.000
+And the answer is yes, or.
+
+01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:34.000
+Can what did you listen to anything that Jonathan and Jessica said.
+
+01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:38.000
+Darn it. Did you listen to anything.
+
+01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:43.000
+That's incredible. That is really incredible. This is like.
+
+01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:47.000
+This is almost guaranteed to be.
+
+01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:54.000
+This is a, this is faith protection here. This is definitely narrative protection 27,000 people extra people actually.
+
+01:31:54.000 --> 01:31:56.000
+Right.
+
+01:31:57.000 --> 01:32:09.000
+What I understand you've battled your way to the end of that question right you're expecting more for results, but I don't know that you have answered it with yes for sure it's fraud or yes for sure they died or yes it was.
+
+01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:15.000
+Wow. So she doesn't understand.
+
+01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:22.000
+27,000 bodies don't disappear.
+
+01:32:22.000 --> 01:32:28.000
+I don't even get it like it's so easy.
+
+01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:36.000
+You could just send a bunch of high schoolers out into all the graveyards. I mean, what are we talking about here?
+
+01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:44.000
+And as we wrote in our notes, what about the funeral homes? What about the corners? What about cremations? What about the thousands of holes?
+
+01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:48.000
+Where are the graves? Where are the bodies?
+
+01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:59.000
+And in the weeks where they were where there were up to 5000 people recorded dying in a week. Where were those bodies stored?
+
+01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:08.000
+I mean, has anyone ever seen band of brothers when they were in Belgium and there were like bodies stacked outside of the hospital? That was only like 15.
+
+01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:17.000
+And there were only maybe a hundred guys in that hospital underneath the church that got blown up.
+
+01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:24.000
+Like thousands of bodies were talking about 5000 bodies.
+
+01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:33.000
+I mean, there would have been some photographs of this, right? I mean, some, oh yeah, we saw one body go into a white truck one time on CBS NewsHour.
+
+01:33:33.000 --> 01:33:38.000
+We're talking about thousands of bodies.
+
+01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:47.000
+And Naomi Wolf is still not on to the idea that, okay, so you really haven't confirmed whether these people have died or haven't died.
+
+01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:52.000
+And so it's kind of a problem. You're kind of at an impasse.
+
+01:33:52.000 --> 01:34:01.000
+And where Jessica is is that if it's 27,000 people, that is a mass casualty event that can't be just where they go.
+
+01:34:02.000 --> 01:34:07.000
+I don't know. They were just here a minute ago. I don't know where somebody must have moved them.
+
+01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:17.000
+That's not how that works. And yet here is Naomi Wolf saying that, well, you know, you're asking a provocative question, but it looks like you're kind of at an impasse.
+
+01:34:17.000 --> 01:34:22.000
+And it doesn't look like you're going to be able to get any more data. No, no.
+
+01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:33.000
+That's not at all Jessica's position. Jessica's position is, is that you claim that there was a battleship that landed in the middle of Central Park.
+
+01:34:33.000 --> 01:34:42.000
+But for some reason or another, I don't see any sign of this.
+
+01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:49.000
+And not just, you know, that that ditch isn't the right shape or those, you know, there's not enough.
+
+01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:55.000
+There is missing.
+
+01:34:55.000 --> 01:35:03.000
+And so it's very interesting how Naomi wants to close it with, again, making it seem as though, you know, it's a neat idea.
+
+01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:14.000
+Pretty interesting question. Everybody in New York cares about this question, Jessica, but I don't know if you've done enough work to convince people it's news.
+
+01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:27.000
+Yeah, I don't know if it's newsworthy. She said murder. We don't have those. Yeah, right. So that's where the next step in my view, which is, you know, legal, right, so that you said people are forced to hand over those records.
+
+01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:37.000
+At least that's what I'm hearing. I mean, I'm not sure I can promote this and everyone will say what an interesting question, how alarming, but I as a, as a, you know, someone who cares about this issue and wants to get to the heart of it.
+
+01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:48.000
+As a reporter, I'm in a standstill because I can't now go to the rest of the world and say, I know what happened. There was no reasons here. I know there was fraud. What we got are some very big important questions. Right.
+
+01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:54.000
+So she can't go and tell everybody this because she doesn't have the proof yet.
+
+01:35:54.000 --> 01:36:06.000
+And that's really all on Jessica and on Jonathan and they really need to do more legwork before people like Naomi Wolf are going to be able to put their journalistic integrity on the line and actually report these ideas.
+
+01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:21.000
+Come on now. I mean, I, I know that giggle and biological really slums when it comes to what, what things we report, but, you know, we don't, we don't even hold a candle to the kind of integrity that Naomi Wolf holds her reporting to.
+
+01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:34.000
+Summarize what you're basically saying, I think is that we're in a position where we throw the story out there and we're expecting the baton to be picked up by people who are enraged and who then apply political pressure to political people to pass executive orders or whatever.
+
+01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:40.000
+So that this is, is, is fairly investigated. I think what you're saying is that's not going to happen. You have to go more on to the front foot.
+
+01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:50.000
+Basically, in terms of, yeah, I mean, just to just to partner is, is not a big organization with huge resources so we would struggle to sort of prosecute a legal case.
+
+01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:55.000
+But we possibly could do so with the assistance of, you know, some public funding for it from, you know, all right. Well, let's.
+
+01:36:55.000 --> 01:37:07.000
+Yeah, so let's fund an organization in South Africa to do a legal case in America. That sounds like a great idea, especially if the people that were funding are actually based all around the world.
+
+01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:15.000
+That's a great idea. That sounds wonderful. I think I've got a better idea.
+
+01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:21.000
+I think we should find an American organization to do it.
+
+01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:27.000
+And I think I'm going to write some emails and figure that out if we.
+
+01:37:27.000 --> 01:37:30.000
+If this isn't worth working on.
+
+01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:35.000
+I do think that Jessica is work worth working with.
+
+01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:39.000
+And I do think the state of New York and the city of New York are worth fighting for.
+
+01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:43.000
+And, and fighting against in this case.
+
+01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:59.000
+So yeah, we'll see where this goes, but I'm not really impressed with Naomi Wolf. And if Jonathan Engler still watching, I apologize for being a little bit sharp on you in the beginning. I think you've done pretty well and have been very humble in the, in the, in the interview since.
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+01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:09.000
+And since the introduction. So I apologize for coming hard on, on Jonathan, but I am, I am going to stick by with what I said. I think it's.
+
+01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:19.000
+He did a little bit of a disservice to Panda by making it seem like it was him and one other guy and Panda who came up with these ideas when really what it was.
+
+01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:26.000
+Is that Panda was actually a very, very good place for these discussions to occur.
+
+01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:32.000
+And it was one of the best and most regular places for these discussions to occur.
+
+01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:48.000
+It was as significant for a lot of people as the doctors for COVID ethics in Europe and as significant as for some people as the doctors group that Stephen Frost chairs the medical doctors for COVID ethics.
+
+01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:57.000
+It's as big as, you know, the heart group for some people. It's, it is these kinds of groups were important in different places around the world.
+
+01:38:57.000 --> 01:39:07.000
+In the United States, it might be the brownstone organization might think of it as the FLCC if you're a fan of, of Dr. Merrick.
+
+01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:19.000
+But whatever group you're looking at as a group of organized good guys, every, almost, I would say there isn't one of these groups that isn't infiltrated. It's impossible.
+
+01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:34.000
+Given what I've learned from all the groups that I've been a member of, all of these groups have had problems with what they perceive as infiltration, what they perceive as meddling, what they perceive as people with ulterior motives.
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+And so honestly, I think it's really important to cite the fact that despite all of these medlers that there were groups like the doctors for COVID ethics.
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+01:39:44.000 --> 01:40:03.000
+That was headed by Michael Palmer and, and, uh, Sukhart Bhakti that the doctors medical doctors for COVID ethics, the one that is headed by Stephen Frost and Charles in Australia who I can't remember with the red jacket who I love very much.
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+01:40:03.000 --> 01:40:08.000
+Um, as the host of those meetings and moderator of those meetings.
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+01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:22.000
+Um, and countless other groups that are smaller than that that have been meeting on zoom are all groups of people that need to be united by common, common hat tips.
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+I got no problem saying that, that, that Panda was a great group and that they are a great group. And I liked a lot of the people in Panda and that I learned so much, I would be willing to bet that the evolutionary biologist that he's not naming here.
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+01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:51.000
+I'm sure I know which one he's talking about. And if he's not talking about that guy, he's talking about one of two other people because there were a couple really strong elder evolutionary biologists and elder.
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+01:40:51.000 --> 01:41:04.000
+I don't know what the other guy was, but they're all older than me and had been in academia their whole lives and these guys knew that this was baloney and they knew it from their, from their bones.
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+01:41:04.000 --> 01:41:20.000
+And so the doubt was there from the very beginning and then what you need is, is to collectively support one another as we explore this and as we, you know, go through the waves of am I crazy or not am I crazy or not.
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+01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:35.000
+And the more people that you have around you that you, you feel safe with saying, dude, am I crazy? Is this right? Am I reading this paper right or not? Then the stronger you become as an analyst and the stronger you become as a critical thinker.
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+01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:57.000
+I think it's just imperative and that's why I do it all the time to say that none of these ideas are mine and that so much of how I got to where I am and my understanding and my ability to present my best understanding of how they've done the pandemic is because of the heated discussions
+
+01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:14.000
+and opportunities to present to groups like Panda and doctors for COVID ethics and medical doctors for COVID ethics and and the groups at CHD and the groups that I've even presented to a couple groups that are essentially just Christian groups.
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+01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:20.000
+And to the to the NCI national citizens inquiry in Canada.
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+01:42:22.000 --> 01:42:34.000
+All of these discussions, all of these were important to all of us not feeling crazy so that we could continue to critically think and analyze this situation and get to where we are right now.
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+01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:43.000
+And the only way that we're going to get there is continue with this scrum formation where we're all locked arms and we're all pushing forward.
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+Nobody's allowed to stand up at this and at this point and say this was my idea.
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+01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:59.000
+We've got to all fight together now and it's a different kind of call for unity.
+
+01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:09.000
+That we were making a couple a year ago when people like Robert Malone were saying that I don't think we should divide the the dissidents at all. Everybody's got to agree.
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+01:43:11.000 --> 01:43:18.000
+And I was called the divider for a year already and all you're doing all these streams are doing is dividing people.
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+01:43:19.000 --> 01:43:25.000
+All these streams we're doing was separating the people who would not shake from the faith.
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+Separating those people from the people who were questioning the faith.
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+And separating from the people who were insistent on the faith certain about the faith.
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+This is where the danger was and this is what the power of this message is and this is the danger of Naomi's resistance to it.
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+01:43:47.000 --> 01:43:52.000
+Naomi should be in a position seeing as she said she was on the edge of this for so long.
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+01:43:53.000 --> 01:44:04.000
+She should be a more open to this being nonsense than almost anyone else because she should be more aware of all of the lies that have been used to exacerbate it.
+
+01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:10.000
+And the more lies you become aware of the more you realize that the exacerbation was the majority.
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+01:44:11.000 --> 01:44:15.000
+The exaggeration was the majority was the only thing that was necessary.
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+And I hope you understand when I was pushing you it's just like should drag the corpse into the light of day so people can see exactly what you've got.
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+01:44:24.000 --> 01:44:25.000
+You know they work.
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+01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:33.000
+They work in raising really important questions and finding what I think are several smoking guns right that require investigation.
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+01:44:34.000 --> 01:44:36.000
+Certainly the directives to EMTs that's like terrifying.
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+I mean I say this is something nearly died in a New York State Hospital easily.
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+01:44:40.000 --> 01:44:44.000
+We don't know if those directives have been rescinded right we don't know if it's safe to put your left one in a New York State Hospital at all right.
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+This is the state that wants quarantine camps. They still want quarantine camps.
+
+01:44:47.000 --> 01:44:49.000
+So I think what you've done to date is incredibly important.
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+01:44:50.000 --> 01:44:53.000
+I would like to think that people especially New Yorkers listening will hear you and go this is madness.
+
+01:44:54.000 --> 01:44:57.000
+We need to oblige these agencies to turn over what they're withholding.
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+01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:05.000
+As you know I don't think that will happen even because you know Mayor Adams who's himself under investigation doesn't have power probably to compel some of these agencies certainly not at the federal level.
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+01:45:06.000 --> 01:45:12.000
+You know even different fiefdoms in New York State have their own lawyers right and can resist even Mayor Adams call.
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+I mean I don't know all the mechanisms of municipal secrecy in New York City but it's a very non-transparent city in a non-transparent state run by like I guess what I'm trying to say is the agencies who have the data you're asking for were directed by the chief murderers
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+01:45:26.000 --> 01:45:31.000
+right with a Cuomo or you know now Governor Hochl and so they have an incentive to not turn it over and to wait out the funeral.
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+01:45:31.000 --> 01:45:40.000
+So now I'll stop there. I don't mean to be a downer but I think that this absolutely requires more investigation and I would say a lawsuit is critical you know so that you can have discovery.
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+01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:46.000
+And so I would say if people want to send you money to fund a lawsuit should they send it to Panda? Does Panda want to think about it?
+
+01:45:47.000 --> 01:45:49.000
+Do you want to come back to me later and tell me what?
+
+01:45:50.000 --> 01:45:51.000
+Come back to you, back to you on that.
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+01:45:52.000 --> 01:45:54.000
+There's a bit of a fund for that I think.
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+01:45:55.000 --> 01:45:56.000
+Oh gosh I'm so happy you said that.
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+Right so let's stop there. You've shaken me to the core.
+
+01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:03.000
+I think this is definitely an important thing to investigate further.
+
+01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:05.000
+I want to thank you both for the tireless work you've done to this point.
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+01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:08.000
+We're proud to bring your work to the forefront.
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+01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:14.000
+We also are going to bring this to our data scientists who may have some ideas about how to mind the data you have in order to see if there's any more that can be served.
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+01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:21.000
+And you know we love Panda we love you know your leadership on this issue where can people find you otherwise and then we should probably sign up.
+
+01:46:22.000 --> 01:46:31.000
+So they can find me I mean I write for both Panda Substack and Heart Substack and also where are the numbers which is Professor Norman Benton and Martin Neil's Substack on Twitter they can find me at my Twitter handle is.
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+I mean so just to address the chat a little bit I understand that we have a photograph of Naomi posing with Jill with Martinez and that's on Twitter.
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+01:46:51.000 --> 01:47:00.000
+But I mean that doesn't really show you very much because here's me at the original CHD conference happily taking a photo with Jill.
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+01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:09.000
+Now you might think in your head there's a very different reason why I'm happy to take a photo with her and if you think that yes you would be correct.
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+01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:18.000
+There's a very different reason why I was happy to take a photo with her but I'm just saying that that in and of itself is not evidence that they're in cahoots or something like that.
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+01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:41.000
+Now they were dressed a little different and they were holding different drinks and the context of that photo is obviously very different but I just wanted to throw that out there but I agree I think Naomi Wolf's responses in this interview to the data and ideas that these two guys brought to her I actually are the biggest reveal for me.
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+I'm a little disappointed that I let my ego get in the way in the beginning of this video but whatever it is what it is.
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+01:47:51.000 --> 01:48:05.000
+I am frustrated because I do think that there is a lack of humility when it comes to where these ideas and you know the way that they are building on one another the way that these things came together.
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+01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:18.000
+I wish people would give more credit to the energy and the collective that did this.
+
+01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:25.000
+I mean how much we benefit from knowing that we're not crazy because other people say well thanks for that presentation.
+
+01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:26.000
+Thanks for that idea.
+
+01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:29.000
+That clarified something for me that didn't make sense.
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+Straightened out an incongruency for me.
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+01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:42.000
+I mean it was so important so many times to hear discussion and so I just think that that's the most important thing to accentuate here.
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+This was such a collective effort to get into the UK.
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+One would.
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+Fantastic.
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+01:48:47.000 --> 01:48:48.000
+Thank you Dr. England.
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+01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:49.000
+How about you Ms. Hockett.
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+01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:52.000
+I'm at Woodhouse76.com and at Wood Understore House 76.
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+01:48:52.000 --> 01:48:56.000
+My former Twitter name was Emma Woodhouse which you know back back in the day people might remember me when I was under that.
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+01:48:57.000 --> 01:48:58.000
+That is really one of the amazing things.
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+01:48:58.000 --> 01:49:14.000
+Oh sorry about Jessica is that her Emma Woodhouse account was way on my radar like way way way on my radar in 2020.
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+01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:17.000
+And a lot of people probably remember it is like this girl with an arrow.
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+01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:25.000
+I don't know if that's from the Hunger Games or what that was from but it was a really really important account anonymous.
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+01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:29.000
+But it was an account that was saying the right things very very early.
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+01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:40.000
+And so it was really a delight for me to finally figure out that Jessica Hockett was really that account and to find that you know I had been following her and she had been following me for that long.
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+01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:50.000
+Yeah it's a really special day right here now I think because of the fact that this book finally came out and that we're actually going to be able to tell this story.
+
+01:49:50.000 --> 01:50:00.000
+Now keep in mind what I said in the beginning of the show and what I will continue to say codified in this book is the Scooby-Doo.
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+01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:10.000
+The details of the Scooby-Doo are in this book the history of the Scooby-Doo because the history of the Scooby-Doo is much longer than 2020.
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+01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:27.000
+The Brett Weinstein and intellectual dark web yes they played a crucial role in setting the worst case scenario and to curate the narrative as it was slowly unrolled as a has a little argument or a little mystery to be solved.
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+01:50:27.000 --> 01:50:39.000
+And this book actually is a historic document which really documents what people said when they said it and it goes back in time to kind of document the history of bio weapons.
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+01:50:39.000 --> 01:50:43.000
+How many of them were real who's doing them you know what really happened.
+
+01:50:43.000 --> 01:51:04.000
+And I think this and the Tony Fauci book really put together an interesting set of citations and in this case the Wuhan book has also got some very interesting insight into what I think is the real biology that underpins coronavirus pandemics.
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+01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:17.000
+And I think we're going to be able to teach it and we're going to be able to open that book and we're going to be able to read passages and then we're going to be able to look at detailed discussions about this biology with examples from primary literature.
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+01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:26.000
+And make it so that a large portion of the interested population will have access to this truth.
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+01:51:26.000 --> 01:51:41.000
+The truth of infectious clones the truth of how RNA can and can't replicate the truth of where these excess deaths actually came from the truth of how PCR can and can't be used with high fidelity.
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+01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:59.000
+There are just a nice list of biological truths that we are going to get out as a result of this book coming out and as a result of us being constantly there for three years with steady pressure about natural immunity.
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+01:51:59.000 --> 01:52:10.000
+Steady pressure about the biology of coronavirus the biology of RNA the biology of DNA the biology of the swarm and the lies that these people told.
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+01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:18.000
+Thank you both and if there's a wealthy patron to out there listening who wants to get to the heart of whether 27 extra people died in New York.
+
+01:52:18.000 --> 01:52:29.000
+Extra died spring of 2020 thus allowing the whole narrative to unfold. Please contact them or us and if they contact us will send them to help you with this critical and my view important lawsuit and further investigation.
+
+01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:34.000
+Let's also throw it out to all the independent media to look into it further as well. Thank you so much for all you're doing.
+
+01:52:35.000 --> 01:52:52.000
+So there is no lawsuit they don't have a lawyer. This is a sub stack and that's all it is. So it's very strange that we're still talking like there's a there's a lawsuit there's no lawsuit.
+
+01:52:53.000 --> 01:53:05.000
+And if there's some wealthy donor that wealthy donor is going to call now I am a wolf. Hey, I want to give a million dollars that Jessica Hockett lady can you give me your address.
+
+01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:10.000
+Do you see the dysfunction here do you see what's going wrong with with this.
+
+01:53:10.000 --> 01:53:15.000
+Maybe we should call Steve Kirsch maybe he's got 10 million dollars to bet on this.
+
+01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:28.000
+Maybe big Steve Kirsch has 10 million dollars to bet on an argument with people to do a social media stunt doesn't he have like a hundred thousand dollars to hire a law firm for a for a couple weeks or.
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+01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:39.000
+This is where the gigantic pile of disingenuousness just becomes really obvious once you start to see all these people talking talking talking talking and they don't do anything.
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+It's really an easy explanation Naomi.
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+01:53:43.000 --> 01:53:47.000
+If Jessica Hockett's observations in New York are correct.
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+01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:55.000
+If Jonathan Englers and the other guys information and observations in Italy are correct.
+
+01:53:55.000 --> 01:54:03.000
+Then the who declared a pandemic of a dangerous novel virus that was detectable by a non specific PCR test.
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+01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:22.000
+It was through misinformation and pressure including financial pressure that caused a change in protocols around the world in key locations that caused a simultaneous increase in excess deaths that was attributed to a new cause of death.
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+The novel coronavirus.
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+In reality the probably best way that this kind of molecular signal could be seeded is through the use of an RNA infectious clone that would have been produced using a DNA clone template of the RNA virus that they wanted to spread.
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+01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:51.000
+A clone release would have successfully caused short term spread of an RNA signal I don't know.
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+01:54:51.000 --> 01:55:03.000
+And I don't think it really matters because they did not successfully culture and sequence from that many people at the start of the pandemic so they didn't really need it to go that far.
+
+01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:11.000
+If there was a background signal that was conflatable as a novel coronavirus spread.
+
+01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:16.000
+Then most certainly they use the PCR test to use that to their advantage.
+
+01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:25.000
+And irrespective of the actual biology that is unfolded and how much of it is real and how much of it is exclusively commitment to lies doesn't really matter.
+
+01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:31.000
+Because the goal remains the same and that is a total surrender of individual sovereignty of our children.
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+01:55:31.000 --> 01:55:39.000
+And the enforcement of a global inversion from basic human rights to basic granted permissions.
+
+01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:47.000
+And they have done this because they have successfully created this illusion of consensus that includes a mystery that we have all solved.
+
+01:55:47.000 --> 01:55:54.000
+And therefore brainwashed ourselves into accepting a faith in a novel virus that killed millions of people.
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+From which millions more were saved.
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+01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:06.000
+The source of which was likely gain of function research which is definitely real because Kevin S. Felt tells us that.
+
+01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:09.000
+And Richard E. Bright has told us that.
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+01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:15.000
+And Rand Paul insists that the diffuse proposal is evidence of that.
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+01:56:15.000 --> 01:56:18.000
+And therefore a virus will come again.
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+01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:25.000
+And they've done this by not doing the math which is what Jessica and Jonathan Engler and others.
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+01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:34.000
+John Bodwin and Hugh Sotonic live. Mark Koolack all these people are fighting for a real story about what happened.
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+01:56:34.000 --> 01:56:39.000
+And how the real story of these people was killed.
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+And the only way you're going to know what the mystery virus did was to subtract all these things from the total.
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+And when you do that there's nothing left for the mystery virus.
+
+01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:59.000
+But Naomi Wolf does not want to actually do this math. She wants them to get more data first because it's not really a news story yet.
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+01:56:59.000 --> 01:57:12.000
+And in this wonderful news story did we ever talk in this hour with them about the did Naomi ever mentioned that way but we know that the PCR was fraud did she mention that.
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+Oh yeah and I heard that you know that there was this huge lateral flow test fraud that was responsible for the next two waves in the UK and all of these tests just came from China and everybody started using them did they talk about that.
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+Did they talk about the idea that you know the only way to study an RNA virus that even Ralph Barrick wrote in a 2008 paper that unfortunately most of these viruses that are found in the wild are unable to be cultured did they talk about that.
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+01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:58.000
+They talk about natural immunity to RNA viruses and how T cell immunity to previous exposures would have never had a problem even if all of their biology is correct.
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+01:57:58.000 --> 01:58:16.000
+And now I understand that this is all about their little finding and then there one thing they're pushing right now is Jessica's observation about how hard it is to confirm that these 27,000 people died and this 20,000 people died in four weeks.
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+What I'm very frustrated by is that we should always be trying to at least summarize the whole story so that we understand why their particular observations are so important in the context of all these other observations.
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+It's definitely I'm scary terrifying that they told people not to resuscitate people that they actually instructed and paid ambulance drivers not to bring people to the hospital but paid them as if they did.
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+That's a pretty amazing encouragement.
+
+01:58:54.000 --> 01:59:12.000
+So, doesn't that become an even more extraordinary set of circumstances in light of the PCR fraud in light of the lateral flow test fraud in light of the fraud around natural immunity and antibodies.
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+01:59:13.000 --> 01:59:25.000
+In light of the fact that they said that the coronavirus was causing cardiac arrest and now we heard a very good explanation for why it might not have been.
+
+01:59:25.000 --> 01:59:41.000
+But we just don't quite and we're not able to get that over the finish line we're not able to connect those dots we just are stuck on one dot all the time or maybe connecting one dot to another dot.
+
+01:59:41.000 --> 01:59:56.000
+The reality is is that if you don't subtract the fact that the protocols were murder then you can actually believe in a mystery virus but if you subtract the fact that the protocols were murder.
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+01:59:57.000 --> 02:00:23.000
+Then the whole faith that a mystery virus evaporates the whole faith evaporates once you realize that there wasn't that this biology of releasing something in late 2019 and having it spread around the world is not there's no biological basis for this.
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+02:00:23.000 --> 02:00:48.000
+A small amount of RNA in a wet market or a whole cage full of animals that are all infected with RNA are still a small amount of RNA relative to the amount of RNA we have to be added 2023 given the claims that they've made the products that they've sold the data that they've shown us.
+
+02:00:49.000 --> 02:00:59.000
+This faith is a lie and it is sustained by a spectacular commitment to those lies in the form of an illusion of consensus.
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+02:00:59.000 --> 02:01:11.000
+I love to call it a Scooby-Doo because we've been fooled into thinking we solved it and it was the act of being fooled like this that has allowed us to completely miss this.
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+02:01:12.000 --> 02:01:25.000
+Protocols were murder thing. They fooled a lot of people around the world with this illusion, with this mystery solving exercise.
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+It's the faith in the novel virus we have to get rid of and we get rid of it by saying that the faith is a lie and the only thing you need to understand is that if there was a background signal before 2020 we have no data to confirm that it wasn't there.
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+02:01:42.000 --> 02:01:54.000
+None at all. We have no data to say that the earth was clean in 2019 and became dirty in Wuhan first and then the dirt spread around the world because that's what this kind of dirt does.
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+We have no evidence for it and the reason why they want you to attribute as much as many biological terms from regular ecology to the biology of viruses is because this will allow you to make the false equivalence between viruses and other living species.
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+02:02:18.000 --> 02:02:41.000
+When you should be thinking them more of as dirt or noise or a state and no matter how nasty the stain is, no matter how sticky the pine tar is, there are certain limitations to how far it can spread by itself.
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+02:02:42.000 --> 02:02:51.000
+An RNA does not have the magical ability that species do to spread and spread and spread.
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+02:02:52.000 --> 02:03:07.000
+Even when it is made ultra pure by synthetic means, infectious RNA can't create infinite copies of itself so that we can produce it and mass store it, share it.
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+02:03:08.000 --> 02:03:21.000
+It can't. We can use artificial means to produce a large quantity of pure RNA which is infectious and could be called a coronavirus clone.
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+02:03:21.000 --> 02:03:32.000
+But using normal collection and culture methods, it's impossible, impossible for this to occur.
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+02:03:33.000 --> 02:03:37.000
+That's the reality of this biology that is missing from the story.
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+02:03:37.000 --> 02:03:46.000
+So when we find out that there's no spread and that all these molecular biologists say, but yeah, but there was a signal, we've got to be able to explain it.
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+02:03:46.000 --> 02:03:48.000
+That's where the biology comes in.
+
+02:03:48.000 --> 02:04:01.000
+So we need to explain how in an endemic coronavirus background and a nonspecific PCR test targeting highly homologous gene sequences, short amplicons,
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+could be misconstrued as a specific test for a specific part or aspect or a member of this background signal.
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+We have to be able to explain how the high fidelity sequences could be found after culturing these viruses in these different places,
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+02:04:19.000 --> 02:04:24.000
+and infectious clones allows us to explain those things.
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+02:04:25.000 --> 02:04:33.000
+And then we can overlay on top of that, don't forget that the protocols were murder and transfection was never medicine and they knew that.
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+02:04:33.000 --> 02:04:37.000
+And now the picture becomes clear.
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+And we can start to expand people's imagination by making them understand the difference between an infectious clone and a transfection agent of a particular toxic protein.
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+And how either of those two explanations could in theory explain the illusion of the pandemic.
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+The release of an infectious clone that was sufficient for brief culturing and sequencing with a good signal may have been brought over by the Sohomish County man.
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+May have been the source of the pneumonia sequence derived for the Wuhan virus.
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+May have even been found in Iran and in Italy.
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+But if we understand the combination of this with protocols that were murder and the intention of rolling out transfection as medicine always knowing that it would not work as intended.
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+But the intention was to fool us into believing that it did.
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+The conflated background signal takes on an added diabolical role because they're inoculating us with something that they know will produce a signal that they can confound as immunity when you don't need immunity because you've already got it because it was a background signal since you were a kid.
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+And so the lies go all the way down to the floor when they tell you that the earth was clean in 2019 and then some dirt got loose in Wuhan and away it went.
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+And that's exactly why this an example of an alternate theory was so diabolical as well.
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+Because it was very difficult for you to question the narrative in the first two or even three years of the pandemic and not get sucked into a debate about whether there are viruses or not.
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+Wait have you read the measles papers from the early 50s? If you haven't then you don't know what you're talking about.
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+Ladies and gentlemen this is the way out.
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+I am so sure that this is the way we save our children from these lies. I am so sure that this is the way that we save our children from growing up believing in a world in this faith.
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+The biology is the way out ladies and gentlemen pointing out what they don't talk about is the way out and if we understand why they're doing this because they want our children.
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+They want control and they want control based on lies and you can't do it to a globe with religions and with multiple languages and multiple cultures.
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+You've got to come up with a narrative that unites everyone.
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+The only one that might work better than a virus might be aliens.
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+It seems pretty likely that the mythology they're putting all their chips on is the public health one.
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+And if climate change plays a role the only real thing that climate change is going to do is release more viruses and cause more famine.
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+Ladies and gentlemen stop all transfections in humans please stop all transfections in humans.
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+I really think it's important that we stop all transfections in humans please.
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+And that's because they're trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary.
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+This has been Gigome Biological, a high resistance low noise information brief brought to you by a biologist.
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+Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb and transfection and healthy animals is criminally negligent.
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+I went too long tonight and didn't have quite the right energy in the beginning but I ended alright and I'm happy with it.
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+And it's another stream I'm going to see you again tomorrow because we're going to try and keep this streak going.
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+I'm going to try and figure out how to do shorter than two hours but so far not going to happen.
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+Thanks for joining me guys I really appreciate it.
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+80 people here it's very nice.
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+I seem to get above 80 every night so that's really just flattering so thanks very much for using your time to listen to me.
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+I do have plans to start the PDFs again but once the PDFs start we're not going to be able to do dailies.
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+So I got to kind of figure out how I'm going to do that.
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+Whether I can produce a PDF every once in a while and still do dailies is questionable because of basketball and all other stuff.
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+But I also really like to have the momentum of every day doing a stream and organizes my thoughts and it makes me feel better before I go to bed.
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+So in the foreseeable future my plan is to keep the dailies going but also to try and up the game with regard to the slide decks in the coming weeks.
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+Because again as I said the book is coming out and once the book is actually out and the public has it we're going to start teaching it.
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+And we're going to start teaching basic immunology again and the virology of clones and all of this stuff.
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+Holy man I can't wait thanks guys see you soon.
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+Very sorry for the late start but
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+No janitor kicking us out of the gym tonight, so I got here pretty late
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+But I'm a little committed to the streak in this stage, so I don't know if I'm gonna be able to sustain it
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+and then I had practice at seven thirty until nine and then
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+we got home
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+Actually, I'm gonna change my hat right now
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+I
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+Gotta figure out how to cut that little that's sure you scheduled for 16 minutes next
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+He's going on French British Italian Japanese television
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+People everywhere are starting to listen to him. It's embarrassing
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+So much
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+Oh damn
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+True Drew good to see you
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+Pamela
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+Well here we are again, I feel like I've got to give them, you know
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+I got to give them a little airtime because I want to be fair and balanced
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+I think there's some TV program or some news channel. It's fair and balanced. I like the sound of that fair and balanced
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+Hey mark what's going on?
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+That guy's been up to his eyeballs and concrete lately, I think
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+He's a beastly man that mark
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+Yes, this is going biological a high-resistance low noise information brief. It's the 17th of November
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+2023
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+We are still trying to fight our way out of this limited spectrum of debate that these people have held us in
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+that have sort of reinforced the views of the system and
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+We've got to fight our way out
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+Fair and balanced is the Fox News Network. Well, I don't know. I guess I could be a worse company, right? I don't know
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+I
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+See this face sliding back there behind our history keep sliding back there and then he's gone again
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+I keep seeing there he goes again. See him. I saw the simple step we can take and our
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+We can encourage our family and friends to take
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+Is to not take part in the lion
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+That that that's something that we can ask all of our family and friends to consider
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+Just stop perpetuating the lies stop testing
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+Stop talking about it like it's out there
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+Stop pretending like the only reason why you wash your hands is because of cold
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+Stop pretending that the only reason why you're concerned about your health is because of COVID. That's just ridiculous
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+You should have been done eating better for 20 years already
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+He should have been taking care of your body already for the last 20 years. That's the problem
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+So many of us owe a debt to our to our body and we need to pay it back
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+Yeah, anyway the brick wall at the back of theater is definitely visible. I know you can see it
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+It's just a question of how can we teach it to our family and friends?
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+I think a really good way to say it is challenge people to
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+Explain why there's no evidence of spread in New York City get them to explain why
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+The spread didn't cross borders
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+Tell them that lockdown is not a good enough reason
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+Infectious clones are the only real threat. We've got a we've got a I admit
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+I've got to do a little bit better teaching that biology in the next couple weeks thumbnail that don't worry
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+placebo batches were likely distributed
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+I think everybody understands why that could screw things up and in transfection healthy mammals is dumb
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+Sometimes you just got to say it like it is like protocols for murder gain a function is a mythology
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+Scooby-Dooers is real and the layers are committed to lies. It's a spectacular commitment to these lies right here
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+Lies about a novel virus lies about millions of people being killed by it lies about millions more being saved from it
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+Lies about gain a function being a real thing and lies about viruses that will come again
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+This is giggle and biological. That's right giggle and biologicals of information brief brought to you by a biologist
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+Who sometimes feels like he's trapped on a starship
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+Sometimes it hasn't been it's been a while since I've felt trapped on a starship. I guess that was
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+And I owe you another one I didn't
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+Didn't switch out all this
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+There we go
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+Hello, my name is Jonathan Cooey, and this is giggle and biological a high resistance low noise information brief brought to you by a biologist in the back of his garage
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+It is the 17th of November
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+2023 it is 8 after 10 in the evening where I am and
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+I am very thankful for the people that subscribe and share the work of giggle and biological
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+Our general message is usually the same
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+Don't take the bait on TV and social media
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+Because it is not a matter of what's true that counts, but a matter of what is perceived to be true
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+That's kind of an awkward quote, but it's from a very very very influential man
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+Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb
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+Transfection and healthy humans is criminally negligent
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+These two phrases are a little bit more skippy and a little bit more zippy and they're from somebody who nobody knows or cares about
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+But I assure you there the biological principles that they talk about and stand for are solid as a rock and
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+You can tell a lot from someone if they talk about me and they don't talk about this slide right here
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+They're basically not talking about my work
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+Because everything else that I'm gonna present over the next weeks and months and maybe even years is
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+Gonna be biology that more or less
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+Edifies these ideas that are to my
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+right
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+Anyway
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+That's the end of that show
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+I think I've got another show somewhere, right?
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+Do I have another one of these somewhere
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+Or did I save that one as a funny one now I was gonna do this one I guess so
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+We are on this Scooby-Doo kick
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+And it is a real Scooby-Doo kick in the sense of trying to help people to understand what was done to them
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+Sorry for that rough transition from music to no music
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+I think it's really important as we approach Thanksgiving to try and give it one more world
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+In terms of really selling this to the people that don't really get it yet
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+It is much more convincing to brainwash someone by getting them to think that they solved a puzzle
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+you can imagine fooling four and five-year-olds by
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+They might have went through your stuff and oh wow look the food on the counter means that they must have stolen some food
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+So then when they go out by outside and they find that I don't know the barbecue is on you can also convince the kids that wow
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+that monster that went through the house that left the footprints that ate the cookies and then went out the back door also lit the barbecue and
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+Now imagine a scenario where an intricate
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+combination of bureaucrats programmed for an emergency and
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+How good would we be at this?
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+how how
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+Accurately would be it would we be able to execute it now what I want you to imagine is
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+That successful execution of this theater
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+results in huge shifts in power huge transfers of wealth and
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+So now is the impetus on the system to allow mother nature to dictate how and when this occurs
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+Or do you think it's much more likely that at some point?
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+This might be the way that we are governed
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+That the system itself would say well, we're not going to wait for mother nature
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+To cause all these changes to happen to cause all this wealth to shift to cause all this power to
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+We'll just simply orchestrate it ourselves
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+so easy to do it
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+Because again these plans these emergency plans these contingency plans have been rehearsed and orchestrated
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+and gamed at tables and exercises over the last two or three decades
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+And those of you who know your history
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+Know very well that that's exactly what they've been doing for a very long time and it's very hard to differentiate what we are now experiencing from
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+Just such an exercise
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+where the combination of a controlled media and a well-brief bureaucracy and
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+a national security apparatus capable of dictating behavior to those levels of governance
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+Simply by saying that certain things are classified certain things are required certain security measures are currently in place
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+And so therefore you can only say certain things and we have to consider the worst case scenario as a distinct
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+and
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+Once the worst case scenario is the distinct possibility on the table. We are right where they want us
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+Once as a society we have accepted that they declared an emergency for a good reason
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+That the reason that they declared the emergency is actually a bona fide danger that could have happened again and
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+That we learned some things worked and some things didn't and we have to improve
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+Before the next one happens then we are essentially accepting this faith right here in pink
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+There was a novel virus millions of people died from it. More millions more were saved from it
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+The very scary possibility is is that it came from a gain of function laboratory
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+And therefore a virus like this one or even worse could come again
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+And people as
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+Varied as Rand Paul Tony Fauci Peter Dasek Richard Ebright
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+Kevin Esfelt
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+Jonathan Cooley in 2020 in 2021 Brett Weinstein now Robert Malone now
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+Are all in perfect agreement that this is the truth
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+So many people are excited that massy passed a bill that ban gain of function
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+By banning it you make it even more real because if it wasn't real, why would you need to ban it?
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+And so this carries on as the Scooby-Doo continues we are continually being reinforced that
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+you know
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+More and more people on both sides of the aisle are coming to the conclusion that this was a lab leak
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+And now what you're going to find very stunning ladies and gentlemen
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+Is that as we approach this wall of obfuscation and this wall of medlers
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+And right now this wall of medlers actually doesn't have any of the no virus crew on it
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+I think we're about to hear a video today
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+That is essentially going to say almost what i've said up until now in this very video from Sam Bailey
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+And
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+So i'm i'm really interested when i'm going to find i'm
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+cautiously optimistic
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+But again, there are a few patterns of behavior with these people that I need you to understand are not
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+wanting to
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+And the most striking one is their
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+unwillingness
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+Under any circumstances that are more or less equal or free they have to be completely defined by them
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+And you have to agree to certain terms
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+and certain boundaries
+
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+and certain topics
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+And
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+The best example I can have is uh, dr. Malick
+
+16:59.680 --> 17:00.720
+um
+
+17:00.720 --> 17:06.960
+Dr. Amad Malick is a podcast that i've been on he's a little bald guy from the uk really sweet
+
+17:08.800 --> 17:10.720
+Really sweet gentleman
+
+17:10.720 --> 17:16.480
+And he was going to have sam bailey on his show actually a couple weeks before he had me on his show
+
+17:17.360 --> 17:22.080
+And at some point apparently she found out that he was not a no virus
+
+17:22.560 --> 17:27.360
+Person that he was open-minded about the existence of sars kobe 2
+
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+And she promptly canceled her interview with him
+
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+And so again here you see there's a certain
+
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+There's a certain dubiousness to their behavior and so i'm as I said i'm cautiously optimistic and open-minded
+
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+And I since I want to have this be a rather efficient stream and it's already 10 20 minutes after 10
+
+17:48.960 --> 17:51.600
+I'm just going to see what we can do here with this one now
+
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+Do I have it already? Yes, I do
+
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+But it's just on this one
+
+17:57.920 --> 17:59.920
+I'll just move it over here
+
+18:25.040 --> 18:27.040
+You
+
+18:55.040 --> 18:57.040
+You
+
+19:25.040 --> 19:27.040
+You
+
+19:55.040 --> 19:57.040
+You
+
+20:25.040 --> 20:27.040
+You
+
+20:55.040 --> 21:05.600
+Children's health events were added again with fear-based narratives about lab engineering viruses
+
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+They reported that in his new book deception the great covid cover-up
+
+21:11.360 --> 21:17.280
+Senator rand paul details the catastrophic failures of the public health emergency during the pandemic
+
+21:17.760 --> 21:22.800
+Addressing the gain of function research funded in part by the us government paul claims dr
+
+21:22.800 --> 21:30.240
+Anthony fauci and his scientific yes men not only knew the sars kobe 2 virus originated at china's wuhan institute of
+
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+irology but worked to cover it up and attack anyone threatening to reveal the truth
+
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+You may get the feeling that many people have been deeply asleep during the past four years
+
+21:41.600 --> 21:45.360
+Mentioned two weeks to flatten the curve and you'll get a blank look
+
+21:45.920 --> 21:50.240
+Even from those that dutifully repeated the foolish metro back in 2020
+
+21:50.880 --> 21:55.440
+Those espousing the lab like cover-up story also seem to be missing things
+
+21:56.080 --> 22:03.440
+Or they have forgotten that in early 2020 it was one of the narratives being promulgated by the mainstream media
+
+22:04.000 --> 22:07.920
+For example, the some published a story in april that year that stated
+
+22:08.400 --> 22:14.960
+It was revealed earlier this month ministers fear the deadly pandemic could have started after a leak from a lab
+
+22:15.680 --> 22:21.440
+USan british intelligence officials suspect bungling scientists at the wuhan institute of virology
+
+22:21.840 --> 22:26.160
+Accidentally spread the color during risky coronavirus tests on bats
+
+22:26.720 --> 22:33.120
+The story included a map showing the proximity of the institute to the huwanan seafood market
+
+22:33.440 --> 22:40.800
+And photographs said to be from inside the facility that were openly published by china daily the state run media platform
+
+22:41.120 --> 22:45.680
+But shh it's all top secret folks then in 2021
+
+22:45.760 --> 22:52.720
+We had the united states senate chiming in as though there was a lab leak cover-up going on and apparently caught red-handed
+
+22:52.960 --> 22:55.520
+Big tech platforms were now reversing the censorship
+
+22:56.000 --> 23:00.800
+We know that facebook recently reversed their decision
+
+23:01.520 --> 23:05.440
+on taking down any kind of information
+
+23:05.920 --> 23:09.360
+That said it came from the lab in wuhan
+
+23:09.840 --> 23:15.680
+So the overt product placement has been done since 2020 through the mainstream media
+
+23:16.080 --> 23:23.200
+Politicians and big tech but the lab leak proponents think that this is something that the public is not supposed to know about
+
+23:24.160 --> 23:29.760
+Lab leak nonsense has continued to be splashed across corporate media headlines in 2023
+
+23:30.320 --> 23:34.320
+And yet somehow the so does anybody really know whether she's
+
+23:35.200 --> 23:42.720
+She or her husband or tom kowen or any of these other people have actually tied it together like this before
+
+23:43.440 --> 23:50.800
+I've never heard her say it as explicitly as the lab leak was set up to
+
+23:52.160 --> 23:59.440
+From the beginning to be a theater to make people think that the pandemic was occurring and that the only debate was whether it was a natural
+
+23:59.440 --> 24:01.440
+Virus or whether it was a lab leak
+
+24:02.160 --> 24:08.560
+She seems to be saying that now, but I I don't get the feeling that they have been saying this from
+
+24:09.840 --> 24:11.840
+from the start
+
+24:13.600 --> 24:17.120
+And I don't know how long they've been saying it or whether they're actually absorbing
+
+24:17.920 --> 24:21.680
+some of the things that our side has been saying now and
+
+24:22.560 --> 24:28.960
+Kind of making it sound as though, you know, since 2020 we've known that this was it's different
+
+24:31.440 --> 24:35.440
+It's a different kind of claim right and I I hope you can see that that if
+
+24:37.920 --> 24:41.040
+If the theater was the primary operation
+
+24:42.400 --> 24:47.200
+Then it is still very dangerous to harp on there are no viruses. There are no viruses
+
+24:47.200 --> 24:53.120
+There are no medicines. We don't need medicine and all this other stuff if really what they lied about was the pandemic
+
+24:54.080 --> 24:56.080
+So i'm still trying to figure out
+
+24:56.880 --> 24:58.880
+I
+
+24:58.880 --> 25:01.040
+Yeah, I'm I'm confused. I mean look here
+
+25:04.640 --> 25:06.000
+I
+
+25:06.000 --> 25:09.360
+I think it's really cool. She said the PCR test in the very beginning
+
+25:10.240 --> 25:16.320
+She said that in 2021 the lab leak narrative was pulling a lot of this story along as she had this music on
+
+25:16.320 --> 25:18.400
+I didn't really understand. That's why I wrote that there
+
+25:19.040 --> 25:22.640
+She points out that the emails the papers and everything they don't mean danger
+
+25:22.640 --> 25:26.080
+It doesn't mean these things are being made it certainly doesn't mean they're creating
+
+25:26.720 --> 25:33.280
+Gain a function or rather. They're not creating pandemic potential in the laboratory and I've said that I've got slides of it for many many
+
+25:34.000 --> 25:36.400
+many months if not a year or more now
+
+25:38.000 --> 25:42.400
+when these people have tried to harass me and tried to you know
+
+25:43.680 --> 25:45.280
+get me
+
+25:45.280 --> 25:47.280
+They attacked me quite
+
+25:47.760 --> 25:50.560
+Quite more than they needed to when really I was trying to
+
+25:51.520 --> 25:55.680
+In a way point out to them that you know, we're really not that far off
+
+25:58.720 --> 26:03.040
+They they talk about the Rand Paul book when I just talked about two days ago. I mean, okay, that's great
+
+26:03.680 --> 26:09.040
+So first the lab leak then the cover up then the censorship theater. I mean we're all talking about the same stuff now
+
+26:10.720 --> 26:17.280
+And I have been saying the scooby-doo for a while now and before that I was still telling it like this so
+
+26:18.240 --> 26:22.320
+I'm totally on this page. I'm just not on the page of
+
+26:23.360 --> 26:24.880
+of
+
+26:24.880 --> 26:29.920
+How it's being said here. I don't know it's it's strange to me. It feels very conceited or something, but
+
+26:31.120 --> 26:32.560
+I don't want to
+
+26:32.560 --> 26:38.960
+Maybe it's just the New Zealand accent to make it sound like that likes of Rand Paul are portraying this as a high level cover up
+
+26:39.600 --> 26:45.920
+One thing that has been consistent during the covid era is the blanket censorship and suppression
+
+26:46.320 --> 26:48.080
+Of the no virus arguments
+
+26:48.720 --> 26:56.320
+I am unable to post covid related content on my youtube channel and even my video on polio was banned after just six minutes
+
+26:56.800 --> 27:02.480
+For the past four years my viewers have informed me that simply posting a link to one of my videos
+
+27:02.720 --> 27:05.440
+Can result in a suspension of their facebook account
+
+27:06.080 --> 27:10.960
+Meanwhile the proponents of the gain of function narratives can post links to the new york times now
+
+27:11.520 --> 27:18.880
+Rand Paul's entire analysis has a fatal flaw and that is taking the virologist claims at face value
+
+27:19.200 --> 27:22.320
+He does not examine the methodologies being employed in virology
+
+27:22.720 --> 27:30.560
+So he runs with words like isolation and gain of function to sustain the narrative that an infectious disease causing particle
+
+27:30.800 --> 27:34.880
+Has been physically isolated and then modified to make it even more dangerous
+
+27:35.360 --> 27:39.280
+In reality, nothing of the sort has ever been demonstrated
+
+27:39.840 --> 27:45.680
+As well as covering the work of ron fuscié, ralf barrack and petitacic in videos
+
+27:46.080 --> 27:50.880
+My husband mark also discussed the lab leak fallacy in a farewell to virology
+
+27:51.280 --> 27:53.360
+His formal refutation of the virus model
+
+27:53.760 --> 27:58.880
+We have broken down these papers numerous times to expose their pseudoscientific nature
+
+27:59.120 --> 28:01.760
+That pervades the entire field of virology
+
+28:02.320 --> 28:09.600
+In their promotional piece on rand paul when they stated the gain of function research funded in part by the u.s
+
+28:09.680 --> 28:14.080
+Government chd provide a link to an article by dr. joseph mccollar
+
+28:14.320 --> 28:17.920
+They posted on the website in april 2022. This was titled
+
+28:18.720 --> 28:21.520
+1000 plus document make make no mistake about it
+
+28:22.480 --> 28:30.320
+This is the second time now. She's mentioning chd in particular and she is mentioning it without actually calling it children's health defense
+
+28:30.960 --> 28:32.960
+Without actually saying what they do
+
+28:35.120 --> 28:38.160
+Now to me, this is spectacular because again
+
+28:38.400 --> 28:47.360
+They've been on chd multiple times chd has held the defender has held some kind of podcast with them and maryll nasse and a few other people before
+
+28:48.880 --> 28:54.320
+And they've talked to david or david resnick before and or if that's that that's that guy's name
+
+28:55.120 --> 29:03.520
+They've they listened to everybody chd has people on that I I wouldn't necessarily say they should have on but they they talk to everybody
+
+29:05.280 --> 29:12.800
+And so it's almost like biting the hand that feeds you and you know, you can barely get your message out anywhere and one of the few places
+
+29:13.600 --> 29:19.600
+That is willing to get your message out. You just constantly send emails to people complaining that
+
+29:20.400 --> 29:28.000
+You don't that they don't back you or that they don't give you enough credence or that they're not saying exactly what they should say
+
+29:28.560 --> 29:30.400
+Who are they're giving?
+
+29:30.400 --> 29:34.160
+You know airtime or attention to the gain of function narrative. I
+
+29:34.960 --> 29:37.680
+Can't say I totally disagree with some of that
+
+29:41.200 --> 29:47.760
+But it's like pick your battles like what what are what do they what do they really want to have happen here?
+
+29:48.480 --> 29:50.480
+It's it
+
+29:50.480 --> 29:51.920
+to me
+
+29:51.920 --> 29:57.600
+Putting this on the screen, but not really just trying to make I guess they think they've already done it
+
+29:57.600 --> 30:01.840
+Right the the farewell to virology is their thing and it's checkmate and so
+
+30:02.720 --> 30:06.400
+The way that they win arguments is that they wave that around and they say well
+
+30:07.360 --> 30:11.600
+If you've read that and you don't submit to us then I guess you're an idiot
+
+30:12.480 --> 30:14.480
+and I have read it
+
+30:15.200 --> 30:17.200
+And the papers that they choose
+
+30:17.760 --> 30:19.760
+They refute them great
+
+30:20.000 --> 30:26.560
+They say that the papers don't definitively show isolation of viruses or purification of viruses
+
+30:28.480 --> 30:32.080
+But some biological phenomenon is going on there that we can sequence
+
+30:33.600 --> 30:35.840
+That shows up in these reactions
+
+30:38.880 --> 30:45.040
+And it's just unfortunate that really it seems to be an all-out denial of molecular biology
+
+30:46.000 --> 30:48.800
+So they they go to old papers
+
+30:49.760 --> 30:53.920
+And they can show you that these old papers aren't showing any direct evidence of anything
+
+30:53.920 --> 30:56.880
+They're just showing indirect evidence of some phenomenon
+
+30:57.600 --> 31:01.120
+That those authors clearly didn't understand totally agree
+
+31:03.520 --> 31:05.520
+But now to be
+
+31:06.320 --> 31:12.080
+Sort of slam dunking the ball without wanting to figure out what really happens what really is going on here
+
+31:12.640 --> 31:15.360
+What are these signals?
+
+31:16.560 --> 31:19.200
+What is this biology? They just want to throw it all out
+
+31:19.200 --> 31:22.800
+Well, never mind all of immunology silly all of medicine is silly
+
+31:22.800 --> 31:26.720
+We should just eat better food and exercise and drink water and everything will be fine
+
+31:29.280 --> 31:35.200
+Irrespective of whether we're being transfected by air or sea or food or water
+
+31:36.320 --> 31:38.320
+or lipid nanoparticle or
+
+31:38.960 --> 31:40.640
+or
+
+31:40.640 --> 31:43.200
+vaporized virus-like particles
+
+31:45.520 --> 31:49.760
+This part of the no virus thing is what's frustrating
+
+31:50.800 --> 31:53.840
+Because what they want you to believe is it's all lies
+
+31:55.760 --> 31:58.800
+When we know that they've been trying to weaponize
+
+31:59.440 --> 32:02.320
+DNA and RNA for more than 20 years
+
+32:03.680 --> 32:06.640
+They've been trying to weaponize these small
+
+32:07.520 --> 32:10.960
+packets of information for more than 20 years
+
+32:12.400 --> 32:14.240
+And so they may not be very good at it
+
+32:15.120 --> 32:17.520
+They may not be able to do it with very high fidelity
+
+32:19.040 --> 32:24.080
+But I assure you they can make things that will annoy your immune system. I assure you they can make things that will
+
+32:25.200 --> 32:27.680
+Disrupt physiology in your body
+
+32:28.880 --> 32:32.480
+And these may not be viruses. They may not replicate very well
+
+32:33.200 --> 32:36.160
+They may not do all the things that virology says they do
+
+32:37.120 --> 32:39.120
+But
+
+32:40.640 --> 32:46.720
+But I think that they can be used to orchestrate fear frustration confusion and even
+
+32:47.760 --> 32:51.600
+Real biological signals that molecular biologists can find and
+
+32:54.640 --> 32:57.120
+And confound into a pandemic
+
+32:59.440 --> 33:02.720
+And I really feel as though there's a lot of
+
+33:03.360 --> 33:05.360
+There's very little rather
+
+33:05.360 --> 33:09.680
+Attempt at making forward progress with people understanding what's going on
+
+33:10.720 --> 33:15.440
+And it's a lot of attacking and whining and and arrogance
+
+33:18.000 --> 33:23.600
+And knowing that they won't have a conversation with you unless you agree that there are no viruses or unless you start by
+
+33:24.320 --> 33:31.120
+Having to argue about farewell and farewell to virology. You can't have a conversation with them as you start there first
+
+33:32.800 --> 33:34.800
+I
+
+33:35.760 --> 33:39.280
+If you wanted to talk about what health freedom means they would first want to say
+
+33:39.280 --> 33:43.440
+Well, do you believe in viruses or not because if you don't believe if you believe in viruses
+
+33:44.320 --> 33:48.080
+Or you believe in infectious clones like that crazy dr. Cooley guy
+
+33:48.960 --> 33:50.560
+Then uh
+
+33:50.560 --> 33:52.560
+Then no, we don't want to talk to you
+
+33:53.280 --> 33:56.000
+And this is really not this is the problem
+
+33:57.600 --> 34:01.040
+And so this is the second time now we're bringing up chd
+
+34:02.000 --> 34:05.520
+Even though we're just reposting joe marcola here who
+
+34:06.240 --> 34:10.720
+You know, I don't know if joe marcola is a good guy or a bad guy, but he certainly seems to be
+
+34:11.600 --> 34:16.640
+A patriot and doesn't seem to really uh, I don't know. I just I can't believe
+
+34:18.800 --> 34:25.200
+That's revealed disturbing details about high risk. I'm very surprised that that chd is even in this video
+
+34:25.280 --> 34:28.880
+That's what I'm that's what I'm you're seeing me deal with right now because
+
+34:29.680 --> 34:35.760
+Gigo and biological supposed to be my show and it's not I've been trying very hard not to
+
+34:37.360 --> 34:42.400
+Cross over too much and when I have crossed over it's always it's always
+
+34:43.360 --> 34:45.040
+sketchy
+
+34:45.040 --> 34:51.600
+As to whether it's good idea or not and so I didn't really expect a second article to be in this video
+
+34:51.680 --> 34:55.360
+And so I'm a little frustrated by that, but I'm going on and a function experiments
+
+34:55.680 --> 35:00.320
+But what exactly was it referring to an investigative report by vanity fair?
+
+35:00.880 --> 35:07.520
+I kid you not mccolla and the chd think that vanity fair are going to reveal the truth about
+
+35:08.320 --> 35:10.320
+to the public
+
+35:21.440 --> 35:25.200
+This wasn't the first time vanity fair had presented this narrative
+
+35:25.520 --> 35:30.080
+In fact, they published a huge feature article in july 2021
+
+35:30.720 --> 35:37.520
+If you read this article you will see it contains nothing more than talk about people who talk about viruses
+
+35:38.160 --> 35:44.240
+These peripheral stories about politics grants and government documents may be fascinating for the naive
+
+35:44.640 --> 35:47.920
+But it is all fluff when you are looking for scientific evidence
+
+35:48.560 --> 35:55.520
+Where is the virus the second vanity fair expose the one referred to in the mccolla chd article
+
+35:56.080 --> 35:58.080
+suffers from the same problem
+
+35:58.240 --> 36:03.600
+Amongst the a hundred thousand plus documents. Where do we find any evidence for a virus?
+
+36:04.240 --> 36:06.960
+Halfway through the article we do see a citation
+
+36:07.440 --> 36:14.160
+The author states that she Zengli and a preeminent coronavirus researcher at the university of north carolina
+
+36:14.480 --> 36:20.720
+Ralph barrack mixed components of sars like viruses from different species and created a novel chimera
+
+36:20.800 --> 36:23.120
+That was able to directly infect human cells
+
+36:23.840 --> 36:28.640
+And the paper they linked to is this one that appeared in nature medicine in 2015
+
+36:29.280 --> 36:34.720
+A sars like cluster of circulating back coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence
+
+36:35.360 --> 36:41.920
+So this is the evidence they are presenting for a virus existence and laboratory engineering of such claimed viruses
+
+36:42.720 --> 36:44.720
+Let the day section begin
+
+36:44.800 --> 36:50.640
+As with any virology paper, you don't get distracted by the title or the abstract which contain
+
+36:50.880 --> 36:56.320
+Venceful claims. You need to focus on the ticklish spot, which is the method section
+
+36:56.960 --> 37:03.280
+Here we find it opens by stating wild type sars co v urbani mouse adapted sars co v
+
+37:03.760 --> 37:11.440
+M a 15 and chimeric sars like co v's were cultured on zero e six cells obtained from united states army medical research
+
+37:11.920 --> 37:13.440
+of infectious diseases
+
+37:13.440 --> 37:15.840
+So right here the whole thing falls apart
+
+37:16.480 --> 37:20.880
+They are claiming that they already know they have viruses in the starting samples
+
+37:21.440 --> 37:26.720
+Without establishing anything of the sort they can then state that the culture cells were quote
+
+37:27.200 --> 37:31.280
+Inoculated with virus see so that's really it's sad
+
+37:33.120 --> 37:36.560
+It's really sad because if we go back to this
+
+37:38.800 --> 37:40.800
+Those are three clones
+
+37:42.560 --> 37:44.560
+So
+
+37:46.080 --> 37:52.320
+They're just saying it right here wild type sars co v urbani a clone
+
+37:54.080 --> 37:56.080
+A cDNA clone
+
+38:00.080 --> 38:09.040
+It's transferred made into RNA and put on cultured on zero e six cells. That's exactly what they do
+
+38:09.760 --> 38:11.760
+They have another clone
+
+38:11.920 --> 38:20.160
+Of a mouse adapted sars co v which is ma 15 they make RNA they put it on the zero six cells
+
+38:21.360 --> 38:25.680
+That's culturing the virus. That's how you culture a clone
+
+38:28.480 --> 38:33.760
+And those cells spit out exosomes with that RNA in it like
+
+38:34.720 --> 38:36.720
+It's that simple
+
+38:37.200 --> 38:40.080
+They can even do it with the circular dna and tr and
+
+38:40.960 --> 38:42.960
+electropyrated into the
+
+38:42.960 --> 38:48.240
+Vero six cells and then have the Vero six cells make it into RNA and and put it out
+
+38:48.880 --> 38:50.880
+But I don't I don't know if that works
+
+38:51.680 --> 38:57.680
+I really think they take the dna and they make it into RNA. That was that infectious RNA on the Vero e six cells
+
+38:58.240 --> 39:00.080
+That's how it's done
+
+39:00.080 --> 39:02.080
+That's the standard cloning method
+
+39:02.480 --> 39:08.240
+So the wild type sars or banny which is named after the guy who got infected by that virus
+
+39:09.280 --> 39:11.280
+And the first patient
+
+39:11.920 --> 39:16.480
+And that's a clone of his of the sequence of the sars
+
+39:17.040 --> 39:20.240
+One that he was infected with it's a clone in dna
+
+39:21.360 --> 39:25.440
+They can send that dna anywhere. They can also grow that dna in a plasmid
+
+39:26.000 --> 39:28.320
+Or a series of plasmids five I think
+
+39:29.040 --> 39:30.240
+in
+
+39:30.240 --> 39:33.440
+Bacterial dna or bacterial chromosomes grow it up
+
+39:34.480 --> 39:36.400
+Ligate it back together
+
+39:36.400 --> 39:40.880
+And then they can convert that to RNA and put that on cell culture. They that's how they do it
+
+39:44.720 --> 39:46.720
+They have viruses and the starting samples
+
+39:47.360 --> 39:52.640
+Without establishing anything of the sort they can then state that the culture cells were quote
+
+39:53.120 --> 39:55.120
+And inoculated with virus
+
+39:55.440 --> 40:00.640
+In reality, they're not inoculated with virus. So here she's going to see it. She's going to say it as clones right here
+
+40:00.720 --> 40:06.640
+See they have a mixture of culture cells proteins and genetic sequences along with fetal serum
+
+40:06.960 --> 40:09.520
+Some antibiotic and antifungal agents
+
+40:09.920 --> 40:15.280
+The nonsense then gets on stilts with the section construction of sars like chimeric viruses
+
+40:15.680 --> 40:22.640
+Here they claim to be making a quote and features clone by using spike sequences from their samples along with quote
+
+40:23.120 --> 40:27.120
+Six contiguous complementary dna's using published sequences
+
+40:27.840 --> 40:33.440
+Don't take your eye off the ball here. These sequences have never been shown to come from a virus
+
+40:33.680 --> 40:43.440
+They have simply been fraudulently classified as viral on genetic data banks from processes that never physically isolated any viruses
+
+40:43.680 --> 40:46.640
+Okay, but she's right about that, but that doesn't matter
+
+40:47.440 --> 40:52.560
+As i've tried to explain they find RNA and dna's signals
+
+40:53.440 --> 40:55.280
+in the wild
+
+40:55.280 --> 41:01.040
+And the only way to find out what these signals might do be they exosomes or or waste or
+
+41:01.600 --> 41:04.400
+Horror packets of information or noise
+
+41:05.840 --> 41:10.160
+Is to make a clone of them put them on a cell culture and see what they do
+
+41:11.680 --> 41:13.680
+Do they replicate or not?
+
+41:14.160 --> 41:20.560
+Guess what? Ralph barracks already figured out it seems that if you have a certain minimum
+
+41:22.240 --> 41:24.240
+gene set
+
+41:24.720 --> 41:31.600
+This RNA dependent RNA polymerase and rf1a and a couple others you basically have self replicating RNA
+
+41:33.680 --> 41:39.200
+They don't understand it, but that's what they found in these in these samples. That's how I understand it
+
+41:40.160 --> 41:42.800
+And so if they make a dna copy of it
+
+41:42.800 --> 41:47.440
+They can make enough of that RNA and then put it in a cell culture. It seems to replicate for a little while
+
+41:49.280 --> 41:55.360
+If they run a gel they actually see the RNA replicating, but it makes a lot of
+
+41:56.160 --> 42:01.120
+Subgenomic RNA so they don't really fully understand how the system works
+
+42:02.240 --> 42:05.680
+But they get a few full genomes. It seems to replicate
+
+42:06.400 --> 42:08.400
+It's kind of cool
+
+42:08.480 --> 42:10.480
+I admit that they don't understand it
+
+42:10.960 --> 42:15.040
+But I can tell you for absolute certain that using this six
+
+42:15.760 --> 42:21.360
+These little dna after the plasmids containing the wild type genome frameworks are amplified exercise ligated and purified
+
+42:21.920 --> 42:28.960
+In vitro transcription reactions were then performed to synthesize full-length genomic RNA. I assure you
+
+42:30.800 --> 42:36.320
+That these people are capable of making this full-length genomic RNA in some quantity
+
+42:37.280 --> 42:40.000
+And if they start with a dna
+
+42:41.040 --> 42:48.000
+Plasmids and they grow it up in bacteria and then they ligate it with specific enzymes. I assure you they can do that
+
+42:51.280 --> 42:53.280
+Molecular biology is real
+
+42:54.640 --> 43:00.080
+Refuting what occurs when they make these sequences and then cells
+
+43:00.800 --> 43:06.240
+Start to react to these sequences of being being being transfected to these sequences
+
+43:07.120 --> 43:13.600
+By exporting them, expelling them, packaging them, whatever you want to call it
+
+43:15.120 --> 43:18.960
+If that's not viral replication, I'm totally down with that
+
+43:21.440 --> 43:24.640
+But if they found a way to use zero-six cells to
+
+43:25.680 --> 43:27.680
+to package
+
+43:28.480 --> 43:29.920
+full-length
+
+43:29.920 --> 43:31.920
+self-replicating RNA
+
+43:32.640 --> 43:35.600
+And then they can for a little while play with it in a laboratory
+
+43:36.960 --> 43:41.040
+And they can make quantities of it and spray it around in the in the air
+
+43:43.600 --> 43:46.640
+Then I assure you that they can transfect people with it
+
+43:48.240 --> 43:53.680
+And you don't have to believe in any viruses being in the wild save an occasional
+
+43:54.400 --> 43:55.600
+you know
+
+43:55.600 --> 43:59.200
+RNA that gets into you and gives you some symptoms. I mean
+
+43:59.760 --> 44:02.560
+It's hard for me to imagine that people are so insistent that
+
+44:03.040 --> 44:07.600
+They've never they've been sick, but they themselves don't believe that it passes all this other stuff
+
+44:08.720 --> 44:10.720
+You got to throw out a lot of
+
+44:11.200 --> 44:13.200
+of grandmother's wisdom
+
+44:13.840 --> 44:15.840
+to believe that there aren't
+
+44:18.080 --> 44:20.080
+Contagious
+
+44:20.080 --> 44:21.840
+symptomologies
+
+44:21.840 --> 44:30.560
+Whether these contagious symptomologies are transferred by RNA or DNA noise from one kind specific to another is a question that needs answering
+
+44:31.520 --> 44:33.520
+But there's no question that the
+
+44:34.640 --> 44:36.640
+the substrate exists
+
+44:36.880 --> 44:45.280
+There's no question that that substrate exists. There's no question that the immune system needs to either be responsive or tolerant to that substrate
+
+44:47.760 --> 44:54.960
+If you want to say that that substrate is largely benign and that we don't it's not full of pandemic potential. I'm all about it
+
+44:56.240 --> 44:59.360
+But if you're going to sit here and say that for the last 40 years
+
+45:00.080 --> 45:02.080
+the people who have been working on
+
+45:02.560 --> 45:07.920
+the basics on how to ligate DNA together and how to work with basic DNA
+
+45:08.880 --> 45:18.080
+Molecules and how to make large quantities of of DNA molecules that they somewhat understand the composition of I'm afraid I've got you lost me there
+
+45:22.480 --> 45:29.280
+Because it isn't an illusion that some of these geneticists have this idea that we are really close to being able to do
+
+45:29.360 --> 45:31.360
+something useful
+
+45:31.920 --> 45:34.560
+Because we are starting to get tools that are
+
+45:36.000 --> 45:39.920
+Surprisingly accurate in their application to a certain extent
+
+45:39.920 --> 45:48.320
+And so it is easy to imagine a future where these tools will become precise enough to be used for certain limited applications given our
+
+45:49.360 --> 45:51.920
+Limited understanding of how these things work
+
+45:54.320 --> 45:58.720
+But you must see how deceptive it is if you're just so dismissive
+
+45:59.440 --> 46:02.400
+to all of the molecular biology here that you can't
+
+46:03.120 --> 46:05.120
+usefully differentiate between
+
+46:05.760 --> 46:07.760
+the exaggeration
+
+46:08.000 --> 46:10.000
+of a natural phenomenon
+
+46:10.160 --> 46:16.000
+That's RNA and DNA floating around and calling it pathogens calling it pandemic potential
+
+46:18.320 --> 46:24.800
+And and kind of going like oh wow, that's that's a little far far fetched and saying it's all lies even this
+
+46:25.600 --> 46:28.560
+They can't make a lot of DNA
+
+46:29.040 --> 46:32.800
+They can't make a lot of DNA of the sequence that they want
+
+46:33.280 --> 46:38.160
+They can't make a lot of DNA of the sequence they want and then turn it into RNA. No, they can't
+
+46:38.960 --> 46:40.960
+Of course they can
+
+46:42.960 --> 46:49.280
+And so even if these self replicating RNAs aren't something that exists in the wild in any quantity or something that
+
+46:49.840 --> 46:53.600
+They are making up out of whole cloth. They can do it like this and lie about it
+
+46:54.880 --> 46:58.400
+And those cells may very well package exesomes full of this
+
+46:59.360 --> 47:02.240
+subgenomic RNA and full genomes and cause
+
+47:02.960 --> 47:06.720
+immunogenic reactions and all this other stuff, but what are they doing then?
+
+47:08.240 --> 47:10.240
+They're not just playing here
+
+47:12.480 --> 47:16.640
+If you believe that there are no viruses in the wild and that this is evidence of it
+
+47:16.640 --> 47:20.480
+And you believe that they are telling stories about gain of function and this is evidence of it
+
+47:20.960 --> 47:24.880
+Then you must explain this and the best most parsimonious
+
+47:25.600 --> 47:27.600
+forward-looking
+
+47:27.840 --> 47:29.840
+evil acknowledging
+
+47:30.320 --> 47:35.440
+Explanation is that this is just a massive cover-up for them trying to find ways
+
+47:36.400 --> 47:39.680
+To advance their understanding of genetic technologies
+
+47:41.360 --> 47:48.560
+So they got these self replicating RNAs and they say that they found them in the wild so that they can pretend that they're working on wild things
+
+47:49.360 --> 47:55.760
+When in reality they could be goofing around in the laboratory with self replicating RNAs that they call viruses
+
+47:55.760 --> 47:57.760
+But this is really technology
+
+47:58.800 --> 48:03.120
+And the way they make it is through this infectious clone thing this recombinant DNA
+
+48:04.240 --> 48:06.880
+Turned into RNA and then they transfect stuff with it
+
+48:08.880 --> 48:10.880
+Now wouldn't that be a much more
+
+48:11.760 --> 48:17.280
+A much more invigorating and motivating and enticing explanation for this biology than just saying
+
+48:17.680 --> 48:22.000
+Oh, don't watch the ball. They're making fun of you. They're making all kinds of stuff up
+
+48:25.600 --> 48:28.000
+Kevin McCurnan isn't lying about everything
+
+48:30.240 --> 48:36.320
+You think that that buck halter guide a buck halts guy does nothing. Well, you're crazy
+
+48:40.320 --> 48:42.320
+What they do they do well
+
+48:44.000 --> 48:46.560
+What they do they can do with pretty high precision
+
+48:47.280 --> 48:52.880
+How that transfers to the wild how that transfers to the natural world how that transfers to
+
+48:53.520 --> 48:55.520
+A patient is very different
+
+48:55.920 --> 48:57.920
+But in laboratory conditions
+
+48:58.480 --> 49:06.720
+With laboratory generated DNA laboratory generated enzymes laboratory directed evolution optimized enzymes
+
+49:08.880 --> 49:10.880
+We can do a lot with DNA
+
+49:11.600 --> 49:15.600
+And that means we can make a lot of pure or relatively pure RNA
+
+49:16.560 --> 49:22.240
+You don't believe there's any self replicating RNA or DNA viruses in the wild. That's great
+
+49:23.280 --> 49:27.920
+But if you don't think that people have been trying to figure out how to make something like that
+
+49:28.480 --> 49:30.480
+Now that's that's a completely
+
+49:31.040 --> 49:33.040
+Gigantically ridiculous position
+
+49:34.560 --> 49:37.200
+But it's very convenient for the people who do it
+
+49:39.120 --> 49:41.360
+Because then there's no challenge from
+
+49:41.680 --> 49:45.920
+Sam Bailey and her followers to any of the dangers that are represented here
+
+49:48.240 --> 49:54.000
+Shouldn't Sam Bailey then really be saying that the real danger is gene drives
+
+49:56.240 --> 49:59.760
+The real danger is directed evolution of enzymes and toxins
+
+50:01.600 --> 50:03.600
+Why isn't she saying that then?
+
+50:04.720 --> 50:10.000
+Because she doesn't understand that biology. She doesn't read those papers or she thinks those papers are nonsense too
+
+50:12.160 --> 50:15.600
+That's where this little magic show breaks down
+
+50:16.560 --> 50:18.560
+There's no next step
+
+50:19.040 --> 50:21.040
+It's just all nonsense
+
+50:21.360 --> 50:27.920
+They're just throwing millions of dollars out the window on stinky bottles of brown liquid that they do nothing
+
+50:28.720 --> 50:32.560
+And all these people are so stupid that they they really don't get it
+
+50:33.120 --> 50:37.600
+Those gels and everything they're so excited and those patterns and everything, but it means nothing
+
+50:37.680 --> 50:39.680
+I
+
+50:41.200 --> 50:46.400
+Wow what a spectacular bamboozlement nice using published sequences
+
+50:47.120 --> 50:52.800
+Don't take your eye off the ball here. These sequences have never been shown to come from a virus
+
+50:53.040 --> 51:02.720
+They have simply been fraudulently classified as viral on genetic data banks from processes that never physically isolated any viruses
+
+51:03.120 --> 51:12.720
+These complementary DNA sequences were then transcribed into RNA and mixed with zero monkey kidney cells to supposedly make viruses
+
+51:13.040 --> 51:19.680
+So the statement that chimeric and full-length viruses were confirmed by sequence analysis before using these studies
+
+51:20.160 --> 51:27.280
+As a case of circular reasoning. They had already declared in advance that these sequences were viral
+
+51:28.240 --> 51:32.160
+That's true. That's true. So she's making a semantic argument here
+
+51:33.200 --> 51:36.960
+Right. So the sequences are real
+
+51:38.240 --> 51:40.160
+But they made them
+
+51:40.160 --> 51:44.160
+And then they put them into a cell culture and whatever the cell culture did with it
+
+51:45.040 --> 51:50.400
+They sequenced and said that was evidence of a virus. So I totally agree
+
+51:52.160 --> 51:53.280
+But
+
+51:53.280 --> 51:54.240
+I
+
+51:54.240 --> 51:56.240
+disagree with the
+
+51:56.640 --> 52:00.800
+attribution that there's nothing going on in this experiment because what's happening
+
+52:01.600 --> 52:05.040
+Is the DNA is being changed to RNA
+
+52:05.600 --> 52:12.480
+And you're getting a large quantity of RNA that you would never have in the wild never exist in the wild
+
+52:13.280 --> 52:17.120
+And then they take that RNA and they put it on a pure cell culture
+
+52:17.920 --> 52:19.040
+and
+
+52:19.040 --> 52:21.280
+The cell culture releases particles
+
+52:22.320 --> 52:24.320
+supposedly
+
+52:24.960 --> 52:28.080
+And it could just be that they put a bunch of RNA on that
+
+52:28.240 --> 52:29.760
+on
+
+52:29.760 --> 52:31.760
+That cell culture and then when they
+
+52:32.400 --> 52:38.400
+They dissociate the cell culture now they have have cell fragments and membrane fragments and
+
+52:40.000 --> 52:42.000
+Mycels
+
+52:42.000 --> 52:43.760
+full of RNA
+
+52:43.760 --> 52:46.320
+Basically, they're making lipid nanoparticles by by
+
+52:47.200 --> 52:49.040
+by cell culture
+
+52:49.040 --> 52:55.760
+So they put all those RNAs in the cell culture and then they break up the cell culture into small little lipid bubbles and they have
+
+52:56.560 --> 52:58.000
+made like
+
+52:58.160 --> 53:00.160
+garage level
+
+53:00.160 --> 53:01.680
+Mycels
+
+53:01.680 --> 53:03.680
+M-I-C
+
+53:04.000 --> 53:06.000
+E-L-L-E
+
+53:07.520 --> 53:10.720
+Right, I think that's the word. It's like big lipid nanoparticle
+
+53:11.520 --> 53:14.480
+So I totally agree with this argument except
+
+53:15.600 --> 53:17.600
+the idea that
+
+53:17.600 --> 53:20.880
+This isn't sufficient to create the illusion of a pandemic
+
+53:21.760 --> 53:24.400
+That they couldn't make truckloads of this and spray it around
+
+53:24.960 --> 53:31.200
+And that people wouldn't get sick from it. Of course they would get sick from it. It's RNA in a lipoprotein coat
+
+53:33.040 --> 53:40.480
+And so if this is a way of manufacturing RNA in a lipoprotein coat and it's not a virus, but it's something
+
+53:42.800 --> 53:50.240
+Then what you're really uncovering is is that gain of function research and viral research in coronavirus is in particular is really
+
+53:50.880 --> 53:54.720
+a giant cover for bioweapons research for genetic research really
+
+53:56.720 --> 54:00.160
+And the only way that they can come up with a rationale
+
+54:00.960 --> 54:06.400
+for exploring genetic research in this way with self-replicating RNAs is to
+
+54:08.080 --> 54:14.720
+disguise them as viruses and then they get the added bonus of this perpetuating this mythology of
+
+54:15.440 --> 54:19.920
+Mother nature of being out to get us and that you know, you need public health and vaccines
+
+54:21.200 --> 54:24.000
+So why aren't they on that part? You see
+
+54:24.800 --> 54:27.680
+That's the part that bothers me too. They're so hot
+
+54:28.560 --> 54:30.720
+on CHD and the viruses
+
+54:31.360 --> 54:36.880
+But CHD's main message is that the vaccine schedule in America is is like
+
+54:37.600 --> 54:39.600
+criminal
+
+54:40.080 --> 54:44.160
+And so if you agree with CHD on that which I presume Sam Bailey does
+
+54:44.480 --> 54:52.160
+Then why would you want to attack CHD so hard? Why wouldn't you want to be more like, you know, CHD is a great organization
+
+54:52.160 --> 54:55.840
+And they're really fighting for the right things except they get this virus story wrong
+
+54:58.160 --> 55:02.640
+Instead, it's 100% antagonism 100% taking the legs out
+
+55:03.840 --> 55:07.280
+Of one of the only organizations in America that's really trying
+
+55:09.360 --> 55:12.720
+And is composed of people who have real skin in the game
+
+55:14.720 --> 55:16.720
+like Brian Hooker and
+
+55:17.680 --> 55:19.680
+and Laura Bono and
+
+55:20.240 --> 55:22.240
+And yeah, I mean the list is very long
+
+55:23.680 --> 55:25.680
+Real people
+
+55:27.040 --> 55:32.080
+And it's just not a it's not in in 2023. Are we really still here?
+
+55:33.440 --> 55:36.560
+That they don't have a better more succinct stick
+
+55:37.520 --> 55:39.760
+That they can get to the heart of the matter quicker
+
+55:40.560 --> 55:46.720
+I mean, are they going to analyze New Zealand's all-cause mortality at some point and start to get pissed off about people being
+
+55:46.960 --> 55:50.720
+Transfected or are they just going to be stuck on this isolation issue forever?
+
+55:51.920 --> 55:55.920
+Doesn't matter whether they were in the form of CDNA or RNA
+
+55:56.480 --> 56:05.360
+Unfortunately, this quote infectious clown business has fooled a number of people's who can uh, I do believe Mark Bailey believes in in
+
+56:06.320 --> 56:11.840
+Um, in bacteriophages. Absolutely. I think he does continue to ignore the provenance issue
+
+56:12.240 --> 56:15.920
+If there is no physical isolation of any particle shown to be viral
+
+56:16.320 --> 56:20.480
+How can it be claimed that these sequences come from inside one?
+
+56:21.200 --> 56:23.200
+So at this point all they have are
+
+56:23.760 --> 56:28.480
+Vero cell mixtures including various proteins and genetic sequences
+
+56:29.040 --> 56:33.040
+To clarify a virus is said to be a replication competent particle
+
+56:33.440 --> 56:36.000
+Consisting of a genome and approach a nation's coat
+
+56:36.480 --> 56:40.160
+It is supposed to be an intracellular parasite that causes disease
+
+56:40.800 --> 56:45.280
+Anyone thinking that this has been established at this point is seeing things
+
+56:45.920 --> 56:49.360
+The methodology is clearly insufficient to make such a claim
+
+56:50.080 --> 56:56.160
+Their case rests on starting with samples from the us army medical research institute of infectious diseases
+
+56:56.640 --> 57:02.320
+And you would have to be pretty new to this game to believe that they have ever physically isolated any viruses
+
+57:03.120 --> 57:05.120
+Such a sweet kid
+
+57:05.680 --> 57:08.880
+We then move to the next section of the barrack study
+
+57:09.520 --> 57:11.520
+mice and in vivo infection
+
+57:12.000 --> 57:16.560
+Where they exposed mice to their mixture that contained the imaginary viruses
+
+57:17.120 --> 57:22.240
+Not just any mice, but highly inbred albino ba alb mice
+
+57:22.800 --> 57:27.520
+They inethetize the mice and then squirted 50 microliters into the nose of each mouse
+
+57:27.920 --> 57:30.160
+This may not sound like much fluid
+
+57:30.240 --> 57:36.720
+But by weight it is equivalent to injecting half a cup or four fluid ounces into a human's nose
+
+57:37.600 --> 57:41.840
+While they are asleep the tomfoolery continued when they stated
+
+57:42.240 --> 57:46.800
+No blinding was used in any animal experiments and animals were not randomized
+
+57:47.200 --> 57:54.000
+They presented this chart showing weight loss and lethality after injecting the two mixtures into the mice
+
+57:54.720 --> 58:02.000
+Because it was not a scientific study. There was no control group and the actual lethality was apparent mostly caused by
+
+58:02.400 --> 58:05.120
+Sacrifice due to the study protocols
+
+58:05.680 --> 58:08.000
+But however, they abused these animals
+
+58:08.320 --> 58:12.480
+It was all pointless from the start as they have not shown an infectious particle
+
+58:12.880 --> 58:16.720
+Thus all of their results are built on a false premise
+
+58:17.440 --> 58:21.200
+For example, this does not represent a quote viral tighter or
+
+58:21.600 --> 58:22.400
+infection
+
+58:22.400 --> 58:27.760
+But levels of selected nucleic acid sequences in their in vitro cell culture experiments
+
+58:28.160 --> 58:34.880
+The study also features some histological slides and antibody essays without valid controls again
+
+58:35.360 --> 58:40.720
+But aside from that, they are all indirect measures that do not require the existence of viruses
+
+58:41.680 --> 58:43.680
+So there is the trick, right?
+
+58:44.000 --> 58:50.400
+They are all indirect measures that do not require the existence of viruses and could also be explained by
+
+58:50.880 --> 58:56.720
+Transfection could also be explained by exposure to the RNA not the replication of it
+
+58:57.760 --> 59:05.200
+It could be the exposure to the cell culture materials and not the replication of it very possible
+
+59:10.000 --> 59:16.080
+But it's hard for me to imagine that they're making these clones and that they're not doing it well
+
+59:16.080 --> 59:18.080
+I
+
+59:19.360 --> 59:21.360
+Have used
+
+59:21.600 --> 59:28.960
+in particular a product an adenovirus product where DNA is used in adenovirus
+
+59:30.480 --> 59:32.480
+in particles to
+
+59:33.120 --> 59:35.120
+Transfect neurons
+
+59:35.920 --> 59:37.920
+in the brain of a mouse
+
+59:38.160 --> 59:40.160
+under specific genetic promoters
+
+59:41.120 --> 59:42.400
+and
+
+59:42.400 --> 59:46.400
+The precision with which we can do that in the short term is extraordinary
+
+59:47.680 --> 59:48.880
+now
+
+59:48.880 --> 59:50.480
+again
+
+59:50.480 --> 59:52.480
+it is
+
+59:52.720 --> 59:53.760
+Out of my
+
+59:53.760 --> 01:00:00.720
+Expertise to be able to say whether what I was getting from the suppliers and from the people that were making them for me were
+
+01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:03.440
+we're actually bona fide
+
+01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:06.080
+adenoviruses
+
+01:00:06.080 --> 01:00:12.080
+But what they did and what we were capable of doing with them was very predictable very precise
+
+01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:14.400
+and very repeatable
+
+01:00:15.040 --> 01:00:20.880
+And although I could not verify directly that the genes were being expressed the fluorescence showed up where it should be
+
+01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:26.400
+and their sensitivity to blue light was within milliseconds
+
+01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:29.360
+of the application of the laser
+
+01:00:30.240 --> 01:00:38.080
+And I was recording ionic currents in real time using patch clamp physiology with a resolution far far far
+
+01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:42.720
+beyond what is necessary to see that these signals are real
+
+01:00:43.600 --> 01:00:49.680
+So we can put RNA and DNA into neurons in a mouse and get them to express proteins
+
+01:00:49.680 --> 01:00:52.560
+which have functional consequences that can include
+
+01:00:54.160 --> 01:00:58.080
+rapid open and closing of protein channels to blue light
+
+01:00:59.040 --> 01:01:02.800
+rapid and open and closing of channels that are gated by drugs
+
+01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:09.440
+And we can upregulate and downregulate protein expression we can interfere with it with
+
+01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:11.920
+small interfering RNAs
+
+01:01:12.560 --> 01:01:16.480
+And we can make lots of copies of those small interfering RNAs
+
+01:01:17.040 --> 01:01:21.120
+that are accurate enough to knock down one protein and not another
+
+01:01:22.240 --> 01:01:23.200
+one
+
+01:01:23.200 --> 01:01:28.240
+Sub-transcript of another one subunit of a protein or another
+
+01:01:29.680 --> 01:01:31.680
+And these are not
+
+01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:35.840
+unchecked or unrepeated experiments. They are done worldwide
+
+01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:40.720
+Asking different questions. So molecular biology exists
+
+01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:45.440
+The question is do wild viruses exist?
+
+01:01:48.080 --> 01:01:56.160
+And that's the part that they get wrong because they really really are careless about how they talk about this stuff
+
+01:01:56.800 --> 01:02:02.400
+So imprecise that oftentimes they are in effect in the minds of the listener
+
+01:02:03.120 --> 01:02:07.600
+Throwing out all of molecular biology with the virology bathwater
+
+01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:13.040
+So here it is a colorful depiction. It was certainly created in a lab, but
+
+01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:15.440
+it's not a virus
+
+01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:22.080
+Vanity Fair did not bother to analyze this paper in any way and reported that this gain of function
+
+01:02:22.160 --> 01:02:29.360
+Experiment which had begun prior to the moratorium was so fraught that the authors flagged the dangers themselves
+
+01:02:29.760 --> 01:02:34.880
+Writing scientific review panels may deem similar studies too risky to pursue
+
+01:02:35.600 --> 01:02:40.000
+The only risk they're running is that more people start waking up to the fraud of virology
+
+01:02:40.640 --> 01:02:45.120
+Instead of so I just want to entertain what Moderna has just put in the chat at 1102
+
+01:02:45.120 --> 01:02:48.400
+Are you damaged the mouse neurons that you think you found a signal?
+
+01:02:49.120 --> 01:02:51.120
+So i'm not going to take that
+
+01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:54.240
+Personally just because that shows exactly how
+
+01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:59.280
+Like shallow your understanding is of what i'm talking about and that's okay because
+
+01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:06.480
+I'm making a pretty casual reference to a pretty sophisticated set of technologies and their use in
+
+01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:09.280
+laboratory animals
+
+01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:11.280
+but we can express
+
+01:03:12.240 --> 01:03:14.160
+algal proteins
+
+01:03:14.160 --> 01:03:16.160
+in mouse neurons
+
+01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:20.560
+And use blue lasers to make those neurons spike
+
+01:03:21.200 --> 01:03:23.040
+or have sub
+
+01:03:23.040 --> 01:03:25.040
+threshold signals
+
+01:03:25.040 --> 01:03:27.520
+on the timescale of close to
+
+01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:30.800
+a 10th of a millisecond on and off
+
+01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:38.480
+And depending on the fluorescence of the neuron we can also predict the relative
+
+01:03:39.200 --> 01:03:42.560
+Magnitude of that signal because we have a tag on those
+
+01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:45.760
+On those ion channels and so the more of them there are
+
+01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:48.240
+The more fluorescent the
+
+01:03:48.240 --> 01:03:54.800
+Neuron will be and that is linearly related to the electrical signal we see when we turn on the blue light. It's not damage
+
+01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:59.680
+The neurons are functioning normally the animals are behaving normally
+
+01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:10.800
+And we can modify the behaviors by turning on the red the blue light because those neurons then function differently when they are depolarized by the algal protein
+
+01:04:13.200 --> 01:04:15.200
+And you can't use it for everything
+
+01:04:15.520 --> 01:04:18.480
+But with elegant application of
+
+01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:20.960
+Transfection of this
+
+01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:28.320
+Of this methodology you can do very ask very elegant questions about how neurons work together. You can't cure cancer
+
+01:04:30.720 --> 01:04:32.720
+But we're talking about very basic
+
+01:04:33.520 --> 01:04:38.560
+Questions on how neurons talk to one another that's that's the neurobiology that matters
+
+01:04:38.640 --> 01:04:39.760
+that's the
+
+01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:45.600
+Stuff that I was interested in doing that you can't get grants for because because you're not trying to cure a disease
+
+01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:49.920
+You're not trying to make a vaccine
+
+01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:53.840
+So try not to be too
+
+01:04:56.640 --> 01:04:58.640
+Too dismissive of what
+
+01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:03.760
+Academic biologists are capable of and what academic biology does when it's done right
+
+01:05:04.640 --> 01:05:09.040
+There is good science in every field. There are good questions being asked. There are
+
+01:05:09.600 --> 01:05:11.600
+worthwhile experiments
+
+01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:18.880
+The question is are there a hundred billion dollars worth of good experiments being done and the answer is obviously no
+
+01:05:20.080 --> 01:05:26.560
+But there are good scientists out there who can ask ask very basic questions that move that basic understanding forward
+
+01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:32.160
+And there are lots of applications of Transfection that work great for that
+
+01:05:32.720 --> 01:05:34.720
+Molecular biology is real
+
+01:05:34.720 --> 01:05:39.120
+That's what's frustrating about their stick because it really feels like they want you to cast
+
+01:05:39.680 --> 01:05:42.640
+Has wide a net of doubt as possible
+
+01:05:43.200 --> 01:05:49.520
+On as wide a field base as possible in biology and that's a really big mistake
+
+01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:57.760
+Lab lakes that look like something out of outbreak. They will understand. Oh, come on now. Really
+
+01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:01.200
+Really I didn't say I was playing with live viruses
+
+01:06:01.200 --> 01:06:07.280
+I said I was transfecting and transforming cells using DNA and RNA and some protein you know
+
+01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:09.360
+Some coat
+
+01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:12.880
+Some particle some application I get a little tube
+
+01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:16.000
+It's got DNA in it
+
+01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:21.120
+I mean, this is where you know, you start to sound like
+
+01:06:22.640 --> 01:06:24.960
+That this this little shtick has worked on you
+
+01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:30.480
+Because you're not sophisticated enough to know where the bs starts
+
+01:06:31.200 --> 01:06:35.760
+And that's exactly what people like kevin mccernan kevin mccernan chuck kownan
+
+01:06:36.720 --> 01:06:38.320
+Is that with their
+
+01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:42.560
+Really stupid complicated explanations about how these sequencing reactions work
+
+01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:48.480
+We're just going to go limp and not learn the details well enough so that we know where the real
+
+01:06:49.200 --> 01:06:53.040
+You know bonafide measurements can be made and where the bs starts
+
+01:06:54.080 --> 01:06:56.080
+And if you're not willing to do that work
+
+01:06:56.560 --> 01:07:01.040
+And you shouldn't be in this audience because this audience is doing that work in real time
+
+01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:05.440
+And it's kind of sad if you want to sit in the chat and then
+
+01:07:06.080 --> 01:07:10.160
+Rag on me and defend her when this is exactly what she's doing
+
+01:07:11.040 --> 01:07:15.360
+Casting such a wide doubt a net of doubt that she would throw out
+
+01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:23.680
+Almost any anything that works anything that's measurable anything that's understandable with respect to these signals
+
+01:07:24.640 --> 01:07:28.720
+It's just a it's just a it's just terrible disingenuousness
+
+01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:34.480
+That like the film it is pure fiction
+
+01:07:35.120 --> 01:07:41.280
+Sadly though the headlines are being promulgated by dr mccollar rand paul and the chd
+
+01:07:41.680 --> 01:07:45.040
+Without any of them discussing the actual science in these papers
+
+01:07:45.680 --> 01:07:49.760
+If they are unable to understand the so-called gain of function experiments
+
+01:07:50.160 --> 01:07:53.360
+Then shouldn't they say I don't know and leave it at that
+
+01:07:54.000 --> 01:08:01.680
+On that front we are often asked to talk to prominent health freedom individuals who have called fraud on various covid responses
+
+01:08:02.080 --> 01:08:04.240
+But it's still subscribing to the virus model
+
+01:08:04.720 --> 01:08:12.080
+Almost universally they do not want to discuss the methodologies of the virologists and start discussing peripheral phenomena
+
+01:08:12.640 --> 01:08:15.760
+As tom kowin has publicly announced several times
+
+01:08:16.160 --> 01:08:20.880
+The offer is open to walk through a virological paper step by step
+
+01:08:21.360 --> 01:08:28.160
+At each step we would like them to state whether they think it is following the scientific method and whether there are valid controls
+
+01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:34.080
+We would also like them to look at a paper like the barrack one I have just presented and indicate
+
+01:08:34.400 --> 01:08:39.920
+Which part they think demonstrates the existence of a virus as defined by the virologists
+
+01:08:40.320 --> 01:08:46.880
+See so she's really stuck on this defining the virus and which one is defining the virus
+
+01:08:48.320 --> 01:08:53.200
+And she doesn't want to acknowledge that infectious clones are simply transfections
+
+01:08:55.360 --> 01:08:59.360
+And if they transfect a plate of zero six cells
+
+01:09:00.480 --> 01:09:05.040
+They get particles that have RNA in them and if they put that RNA in an animal
+
+01:09:05.760 --> 01:09:07.760
+They can see the RNA
+
+01:09:07.920 --> 01:09:11.360
+Replicate for a short period of time make partial copies of itself
+
+01:09:12.160 --> 01:09:18.400
+I don't know what they see they see an immune response that includes antibodies to some of the proteins that are encoded by the RNA
+
+01:09:20.240 --> 01:09:26.000
+The fact that they don't understand what they're doing is very different than them doing nothing
+
+01:09:28.080 --> 01:09:31.040
+And so by discounting the entire experiment
+
+01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:34.880
+You're ignoring the fact that they can make that DNA
+
+01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:38.880
+You're ignoring the fact that they can take that DNA and they combine it with a t6
+
+01:09:39.280 --> 01:09:42.400
+polymerase and they can make it into an RNA
+
+01:09:43.200 --> 01:09:45.600
+And they can put that RNA on a cell culture
+
+01:09:46.480 --> 01:09:50.480
+And the cell culture will package it or put it in vesicles or something
+
+01:09:52.320 --> 01:09:59.920
+And they can make that mixture then and they can put it somewhere else and it seems like the RNA replicates some make some copies of itself
+
+01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:06.000
+That's already back in the 80s. Okay, so you can see the argument that we've made
+
+01:10:10.640 --> 01:10:12.800
+And we've talked about in a book like this one
+
+01:10:14.240 --> 01:10:16.240
+So in a book like this one
+
+01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:18.800
+Where they tried to do what they could?
+
+01:10:19.920 --> 01:10:24.240
+They were already doing gels like this and the gels they don't really know what they're doing
+
+01:10:24.240 --> 01:10:28.560
+But the gels do show you one thing when one thing weighs the same as another thing
+
+01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:33.600
+they go to the same part of the gel and so you can do pretty simple control experiments
+
+01:10:34.480 --> 01:10:38.960
+And they could show that some of these RNAs were self-replicating
+
+01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:42.320
+They weren't doing it very well because they were making really
+
+01:10:43.200 --> 01:10:48.400
+Small truncated copies of certain parts of the RNA and they still don't understand why this is
+
+01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:55.600
+But they can see leader sequences there and the leader sequences have something to do with when the RNA polymerase stops
+
+01:10:56.080 --> 01:10:58.080
+And
+
+01:10:58.080 --> 01:11:03.120
+So they see what I can believe for the last 20 years are some kind of really crappy
+
+01:11:04.720 --> 01:11:08.400
+Signals of self-replicating RNA that occasionally they get a clue
+
+01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:11.760
+And so they've been combining these
+
+01:11:12.160 --> 01:11:15.200
+These hints these molecular things together
+
+01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:20.720
+Hint cell cultures and colon them viruses pretended to go out into the wild and find more
+
+01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:33.280
+But it is very very dangerous to discount all of molecular biology to discount the fact that they can make a lot of a lot of something
+
+01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:38.000
+If they wanted to they can make a lot of DNA
+
+01:11:39.120 --> 01:11:41.440
+If they wanted to they can make a lot of myelin
+
+01:11:42.240 --> 01:11:45.440
+If they wanted to they can make a lot of any protein that they wanted to
+
+01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:49.120
+If they wanted to make a lot of any RNA they could
+
+01:11:50.080 --> 01:11:55.440
+And so if they wanted to transfect Sam Bailey and all of her family with a vaporized
+
+01:11:56.640 --> 01:11:58.000
+RNA
+
+01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:00.000
+I think they could do it
+
+01:12:02.400 --> 01:12:05.200
+And if that RNA or that DNA
+
+01:12:06.160 --> 01:12:11.360
+Was was detected with a PCR test. I think they could they could make that pretty replicable too
+
+01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:16.880
+It might not be a self-replicating RNA pathogen
+
+01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:25.600
+But you can't discount the fact that they have technologies to put these sequences in places
+
+01:12:25.680 --> 01:12:31.760
+They have technologies that can transfect and express these proteins in places
+
+01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:33.840
+That means that they can do things
+
+01:12:38.240 --> 01:12:42.480
+That means they can create signals they can create illusions they can create real
+
+01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:45.760
+Pathologies
+
+01:12:46.720 --> 01:12:54.400
+Because there are real toxic proteins there are real immunogenic proteins there are real allergenic proteins
+
+01:12:57.360 --> 01:12:59.760
+And autoimmunity is real
+
+01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:07.200
+If you make a salmonella bacteria that can express the the myelin protein on its outside
+
+01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:13.520
+You can cause people to go into advanced muscular multiple sclerosis by getting salmonella
+
+01:13:14.480 --> 01:13:17.200
+That's not an imaginary story. That's a real thing
+
+01:13:20.160 --> 01:13:22.160
+Because the immune system is a real thing
+
+01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:30.960
+But we have to be very careful about how this no virus narrative is being wielded as this
+
+01:13:31.680 --> 01:13:32.800
+really
+
+01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:34.800
+Bull in a china shop style
+
+01:13:35.280 --> 01:13:37.280
+nonsense
+
+01:13:37.600 --> 01:13:44.480
+Where everybody who believes in anything to do with this molecular biology just has to be discounted as an idiot
+
+01:13:47.200 --> 01:13:51.520
+And then now now mary holland and and
+
+01:13:52.240 --> 01:13:57.760
+All of the other great leaders of chd are equivalent to tony fauci in her mind
+
+01:13:58.240 --> 01:14:02.480
+Because now she's going to play tony fauci after she just what was that slide of?
+
+01:14:02.480 --> 01:14:04.480
+Oh
+
+01:14:06.080 --> 01:14:10.640
+It's not the stand that like the film it is pure fiction here sadly though
+
+01:14:10.720 --> 01:14:16.160
+The headlines are being promulgated by dr mccollar Rand paul and the chd
+
+01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:19.760
+Without any of them discussing the actual science in these papers
+
+01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:24.640
+I don't know what science you're talking about. If they are unable to understand the so-called gain of function experiments
+
+01:14:25.040 --> 01:14:28.320
+Then shouldn't they say I don't know and leave it at that
+
+01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:30.960
+On that front we are often here
+
+01:14:31.040 --> 01:14:34.160
+So look comedy. This is mccolla. This is the guy who
+
+01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:38.320
+Stopped vaccinating his office until he lost his job
+
+01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:43.520
+This is a guy who's spoke out very early about hydroxychloroquine being
+
+01:14:45.360 --> 01:14:50.160
+Wrongly blamed for swollen hearts and heart attacks and all this other stuff and has come full
+
+01:14:51.360 --> 01:14:57.760
+Through the pandemic all the way to the point now where he says that the vaccine schedule in america is super sketch
+
+01:14:58.480 --> 01:15:04.560
+He actually says this in a more forceful and direct manner than robert f Kennedy jr. We'll say
+
+01:15:07.120 --> 01:15:11.680
+She's got him on here with del and pure cori and
+
+01:15:13.120 --> 01:15:17.200
+Who's that? Is that robert melon without him? What is that? Is that robert melon? I don't know
+
+01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:22.480
+I just I I think this is really you know here's
+
+01:15:22.560 --> 01:15:26.080
+Naomi wolf. I'm totally down with that. We saw Naomi wolf yesterday was
+
+01:15:26.080 --> 01:15:34.960
+To talk to prominent health freedom individual but you don't want to talk to prominent health freedom individuals because they believe in viruses and it's such a weird
+
+01:15:38.400 --> 01:15:45.520
+It's such a weird stance because it's not it's not being genuine because they can make dna and they can make rna
+
+01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:48.240
+And so if they're lying about what they're doing with it if they're
+
+01:15:49.040 --> 01:15:51.280
+obfuscating what they can and can't do with it
+
+01:15:52.080 --> 01:15:59.840
+That's something completely different and and you you could be a lot more precise about it and make a lot more progress than just saying to argue about
+
+01:16:00.560 --> 01:16:06.800
+vigils who have called on various covid responses, but it's still subscribing to the virus model
+
+01:16:07.280 --> 01:16:14.640
+Almost universally they do not want to discuss the methodologies of the virologists and start discussing peripheral phenomena
+
+01:16:15.120 --> 01:16:18.240
+As tom cowin has publicly announced several times
+
+01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:23.440
+The offer is open to walk through a virological paper step by step
+
+01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:30.720
+At each step we would like them to state whether they think it is following the scientific method and whether there are valid controls
+
+01:16:31.200 --> 01:16:36.640
+We would also like them to look at a paper like the barrack one i have just presented and indicate
+
+01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:42.560
+Which part they think demonstrates the existence of a virus as defined by the virologists
+
+01:16:43.040 --> 01:16:48.640
+Ironically, they say fauci is lying when it comes to vaccines drugs and public policy
+
+01:16:49.040 --> 01:16:52.960
+But when it comes to fauci's basic virology everything is spot-on
+
+01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:58.160
+Because I represent science as we have explained a virus mania
+
+01:16:58.480 --> 01:17:04.480
+Fauci has been one of the major drivers of establishment virology for the past four decades
+
+01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:08.320
+And was probably the most powerful AIDS official in the united states
+
+01:17:09.040 --> 01:17:15.360
+Public belief in the virus model is the single most important factor keeping the whole show together
+
+01:17:15.840 --> 01:17:22.480
+Coming back to the title of the video. It means that there is no evidence that viruses exist in nature
+
+01:17:23.120 --> 01:17:29.520
+Trying to find and isolate such particles directly from humans animals or plants failed long ago
+
+01:17:30.160 --> 01:17:37.360
+Christine massy has tirelessly requested this evidence from hundreds of institutions around the world and they have all turned up a blank
+
+01:17:37.840 --> 01:17:41.520
+Not only for SARS-CoV-2, but for any alleged viruses
+
+01:17:42.240 --> 01:17:44.720
+This point is crucial for people to understand
+
+01:17:45.360 --> 01:17:49.120
+Viruses have never been seen in nature
+
+01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:57.200
+They are created in laboratories, but only as fictional constructs in the imaginations of the virologists
+
+01:17:57.840 --> 01:18:05.600
+This can be through calling particles and cell breakdown experiments viral and then blaming the breakdown on the particles
+
+01:18:06.000 --> 01:18:10.560
+Or it could be through silly experiments where mixtures are injected into animals
+
+01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:17.840
+And then the responses are attributed to imagined viruses or it could be through creating a quote genome
+
+01:18:18.320 --> 01:18:21.600
+Even though the provenance of the genetic material was not established
+
+01:18:22.160 --> 01:18:28.400
+This latter technique is increasingly favored by virologists as it largely takes place in the dry lab
+
+01:18:28.880 --> 01:18:31.440
+That is on their computer simulations
+
+01:18:32.240 --> 01:18:38.480
+None of this translates to infectious replicating and disease causing particles as biological entities
+
+01:18:39.040 --> 01:18:45.760
+Because there is no evidence that they exist there is no evidence that there is anything contagious to leak from a lab
+
+01:18:46.400 --> 01:18:50.960
+So what goes on in top secret facilities is nothing to do with actual viruses
+
+01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:57.120
+If they really had evidence for such a thing they would have showcased it to the public long ago
+
+01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:02.800
+Those who have studied the history of virology can see that despite their best efforts
+
+01:19:03.120 --> 01:19:05.840
+They have a fatal problem of the missing virus
+
+01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:12.640
+The lab leaks sleuths who are mining the genetic databases and looking at government reports
+
+01:19:13.040 --> 01:19:17.840
+Are not finding breadcrumbs accidentally left behind by stealthy virologists
+
+01:19:18.400 --> 01:19:23.440
+They are finding giant lobes of bread that are designed to go along with the circus
+
+01:19:24.080 --> 01:19:29.680
+If they looked upstream they might notice that they are dealing with pseudo scientific constructs
+
+01:19:30.240 --> 01:19:36.000
+Perhaps they should consider why the virologists have not done the blinded and controlled experiments
+
+01:19:36.320 --> 01:19:39.440
+That we propose to them in the settling the virus debate statement
+
+01:19:40.080 --> 01:19:45.360
+As always I encourage everyone not to get swept up in fair narratives
+
+01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:49.840
+The virus model has been one of the greatest tools of manipulation
+
+01:19:50.320 --> 01:19:52.720
+And its influence has been catastrophic
+
+01:19:53.120 --> 01:19:55.120
+Particularly in the last four years
+
+01:19:55.760 --> 01:20:02.160
+Many of us have learned to ignore the model in our own lives and the health of our families is all the better for it
+
+01:20:04.480 --> 01:20:08.320
+So when I have a big problem with the way that this goes because
+
+01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:12.960
+Is your family better for it because you ignore that there are viruses
+
+01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:17.680
+Or is it because you stopped using or never used vaccines
+
+01:20:18.400 --> 01:20:20.400
+So
+
+01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:27.360
+That's the problem that I have with her then attacking chd because chd has an open mind about
+
+01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:31.200
+The biology and a not open mind about the
+
+01:20:32.080 --> 01:20:35.760
+The medical application of vaccines for this
+
+01:20:37.120 --> 01:20:39.920
+And one of them is really hurting people
+
+01:20:41.120 --> 01:20:43.120
+And the other one is
+
+01:20:43.280 --> 01:20:45.680
+Actually not hurting people really
+
+01:20:46.160 --> 01:20:52.400
+Except for if they believe in it and then if they believe in it they still have to take back scenes in order for them to get hurt
+
+01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:55.520
+So
+
+01:20:55.520 --> 01:21:01.600
+On the other hand if the government is using these stories of gain of function as cover for
+
+01:21:02.560 --> 01:21:04.560
+them looking for
+
+01:21:05.040 --> 01:21:08.480
+Signals in the wild that can be useful in genetic engineering
+
+01:21:09.440 --> 01:21:11.440
+because exosomes are real
+
+01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:13.040
+and
+
+01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:17.120
+There is a whole field of biology
+
+01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:21.280
+that works on exosomal communication between tissues
+
+01:21:22.480 --> 01:21:23.520
+and
+
+01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:24.800
+between
+
+01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:25.840
+species
+
+01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:27.840
+between con specifics
+
+01:21:28.160 --> 01:21:30.480
+And it's just a very very difficult
+
+01:21:31.120 --> 01:21:32.960
+size scale
+
+01:21:32.960 --> 01:21:34.960
+to work on
+
+01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:36.640
+so
+
+01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:38.640
+It is very likely
+
+01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:47.920
+That a background signal composed of RNA and DNA and enzymes or or RNA and DNA coding for enzymes
+
+01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:50.480
+is there
+
+01:21:50.480 --> 01:21:58.720
+Because cells send signals to each other because the immune system sends signals to other parts of the immune system using these small packets of information
+
+01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:03.920
+But a
+
+01:22:04.960 --> 01:22:07.520
+A conflated background signal that has been
+
+01:22:08.320 --> 01:22:13.360
+You know distorted into a signal of pathogens. I'm totally down with this idea
+
+01:22:15.040 --> 01:22:17.600
+I'm not totally down with it being like about
+
+01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:20.800
+about the pretty girl
+
+01:22:21.200 --> 01:22:23.760
+I'm totally not down with it being about the
+
+01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:26.960
+the
+
+01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:30.800
+It's this is not about this is something wrong with this
+
+01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:38.160
+Because we're not doing the hard work of okay, so they're they're lying about this stuff
+
+01:22:38.160 --> 01:22:43.840
+And they're they've exaggerated about this stuff and a lot of these experiments don't have controls
+
+01:22:44.400 --> 01:22:50.800
+But what do we do about all of this technology which can make large quantities of DNA and large quantities of RNA?
+
+01:22:51.280 --> 01:22:53.280
+What do we do about that technology?
+
+01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:56.240
+Do you actually think that they're not doing anything with it?
+
+01:22:57.040 --> 01:23:01.120
+Do you actually think that all of these labs are doing nothing?
+
+01:23:03.200 --> 01:23:11.040
+Or do you think that they're actually using this very highly developed RNA and DNA technology for something?
+
+01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:16.080
+That's the part of this that's so frustrating
+
+01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:20.960
+Is because we're we're contorting and distorting
+
+01:23:22.160 --> 01:23:23.600
+Taking away
+
+01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:30.880
+Support from an organization full of people trying to do their best to end the scam of vaccines
+
+01:23:33.440 --> 01:23:40.320
+And the only thing you can say is that they're just dummies because they don't they don't know how to read a virology paper like me and my husband do
+
+01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:46.000
+And then wave your wave your hair around and take pictures like this
+
+01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:49.520
+And pump
+
+01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:51.520
+pump plastic into your lips
+
+01:23:52.480 --> 01:23:57.360
+Seriously, I tried to talk to her in the first year of the pandemic and she wouldn't do an interview with me
+
+01:24:02.080 --> 01:24:05.840
+I mean at some point I really thought that they were actually pretty good people
+
+01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:09.680
+And just that they were they just needed to understand that
+
+01:24:10.320 --> 01:24:14.400
+There might not be wild viruses, but they figured out a way to make little tiny
+
+01:24:15.200 --> 01:24:19.200
+Self-replicating RNAs and they're playing around with them and calling them viruses
+
+01:24:19.280 --> 01:24:24.800
+And maybe some of these self-replicating RNAs are signals that we use ourselves that other animals use themselves
+
+01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:30.000
+Maybe they're especially abundant in in bats for all I know
+
+01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:38.640
+But they're not going to get these ideas from nowhere. They're not going to find these little genes nowhere
+
+01:24:41.280 --> 01:24:44.880
+But they do find them I kind of believe that
+
+01:24:45.200 --> 01:24:47.200
+But
+
+01:24:47.200 --> 01:24:55.200
+The question of them being a signal of a pathogen or a signal of a pathogenic potential even is a bit over the day that it's a bit ridiculous
+
+01:24:55.200 --> 01:24:57.200
+A bit exaggerated. I'm totally fine with that
+
+01:24:58.480 --> 01:25:02.640
+But I'm not fine with attacking everybody on the health freedom unit side
+
+01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:08.640
+With one blanket attack of well, they won't accept it that they can't read virology like we can read it
+
+01:25:09.760 --> 01:25:12.400
+They don't understand this biology like we do
+
+01:25:13.040 --> 01:25:17.280
+All of those people are crazy and me and my husband were the best
+
+01:25:19.040 --> 01:25:21.040
+And Tom Cowan too, he's great
+
+01:25:21.280 --> 01:25:27.040
+But I'm not going to mention Andy Kaufman anymore because he's kind of a weirdo and he spoke about exosomes for the first year
+
+01:25:29.360 --> 01:25:31.360
+I think this is very disingenuous
+
+01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:34.000
+I'd be happy to have them on my show
+
+01:25:35.200 --> 01:25:41.040
+To discuss this and to discuss what what infectious clones might be
+
+01:25:42.400 --> 01:25:44.400
+And what these applications might be
+
+01:25:45.200 --> 01:25:47.040
+um
+
+01:25:47.040 --> 01:25:55.600
+And how easy it would be for them to seed the molecular biology of a pandemic and claim that it is there and actually try to perpetuate this
+
+01:25:56.320 --> 01:26:02.240
+Idea of their being pathogenic viruses out there and that they're very dangerous and that some of them could be getting a function
+
+01:26:02.240 --> 01:26:04.240
+We totally agree on this
+
+01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:06.880
+In fact
+
+01:26:06.880 --> 01:26:08.880
+It's in this book
+
+01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:11.520
+That we agree on that
+
+01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:19.120
+That the molecular biology exists for them to create the illusion of a pandemic right down to the sequences right down to the limited
+
+01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:21.600
+Culturability of it
+
+01:26:23.200 --> 01:26:28.480
+And that's the part that I believe that these people are wittingly or unwittingly covering up
+
+01:26:29.680 --> 01:26:35.760
+That yes, there are very little good evidence for wild viruses with any
+
+01:26:36.400 --> 01:26:41.520
+Real capability of causing spreading pathogenesis over a long period of time
+
+01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:44.560
+There's almost there's no evidence for that not very good at all
+
+01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:53.680
+And our best chance at understanding that kind of phenomenon would be the polio virus or the measles virus or something like that
+
+01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:56.160
+maybe pertussis
+
+01:26:56.160 --> 01:26:58.160
+Or whooping cough
+
+01:27:00.320 --> 01:27:05.120
+But the bottom line is is that we don't understand how our immune system deals with these signals
+
+01:27:05.120 --> 01:27:10.480
+We don't understand the significance of these signals. We're not really sure how they work or how they become generated
+
+01:27:12.080 --> 01:27:14.080
+And we do know that the military
+
+01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:19.520
+And the government have a vested interest in us not understanding that on the back of this
+
+01:27:21.440 --> 01:27:29.040
+Is a multi-billion dollar effort to understand how to augment the genome and so we have used every trick in the book
+
+01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:31.760
+to allow us to explore
+
+01:27:32.160 --> 01:27:33.520
+the broad
+
+01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:35.120
+applications of
+
+01:27:35.120 --> 01:27:37.440
+Transfection and transformation
+
+01:27:38.400 --> 01:27:41.520
+And the broad search for ways to accomplish it
+
+01:27:43.040 --> 01:27:47.920
+And if gain-of-function virology is an elaborate mythology to hide their
+
+01:27:48.480 --> 01:27:52.960
+Experimenting experimenting with these technologies. I'm totally down with that
+
+01:27:56.720 --> 01:28:01.280
+But if we're going to stop at there are no viruses and everybody who thinks that there's a virus
+
+01:28:01.440 --> 01:28:06.240
+I don't care what else they're fighting for health freedom-wise. I'm not going to work with them
+
+01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:12.880
+That I think you're full of it. I think you're full of it. That's what I think. I think you're full of it
+
+01:28:13.120 --> 01:28:17.280
+If you enjoyed this video, please visit support.disam.com
+
+01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:27.520
+I don't know. I don't I don't I don't like that. I just don't think it's
+
+01:28:28.080 --> 01:28:32.000
+It's as genuine as they want you to believe it is. I just don't think it is
+
+01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:39.040
+So that's that's all I'm going to say about that. I think I don't need to say any more about that
+
+01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:46.800
+And in fact, I think I'm just going to summarize it right here
+
+01:28:48.400 --> 01:28:50.400
+that
+
+01:28:52.400 --> 01:28:54.400
+That's this one
+
+01:28:54.880 --> 01:28:56.880
+and I just
+
+01:28:56.960 --> 01:28:58.960
+I can't believe that
+
+01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:01.280
+You know
+
+01:29:01.280 --> 01:29:03.520
+after spending a full year almost
+
+01:29:04.480 --> 01:29:06.480
+Talking about how the PCR is nonsense
+
+01:29:07.120 --> 01:29:12.000
+She mentioned PCR in exactly one sentence at the very beginning of the video and then never again
+
+01:29:13.040 --> 01:29:15.840
+as to how that could be used to fool people
+
+01:29:17.920 --> 01:29:19.920
+And I think that's a much better
+
+01:29:20.720 --> 01:29:27.040
+argument than some of these other things about there being a virus or no virus because it is very complicated for
+
+01:29:27.280 --> 01:29:29.280
+For the average person to understand
+
+01:29:29.760 --> 01:29:33.600
+These subtle arguments about well, what's a virus and what's a clone and all this other stuff?
+
+01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:35.600
+It takes a lot of background knowledge, but
+
+01:29:36.160 --> 01:29:42.880
+To say that they were using a test that basically detected a conflated background signal is pretty easy for everybody to understand
+
+01:29:44.480 --> 01:29:49.040
+And that was a story that they were pushing for the first year that they don't push anymore at all ever
+
+01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:55.040
+Strange right because I told you that that's what they do. They don't say anything about that
+
+01:29:59.280 --> 01:30:03.040
+And it essentially protects the faith because it's such an absurd
+
+01:30:04.880 --> 01:30:07.120
+Position that it doesn't threaten the faith at all
+
+01:30:08.800 --> 01:30:14.560
+The position that threatens the faith is when you start identifying that the faith is the novel virus
+
+01:30:14.640 --> 01:30:20.000
+It's not that there's no RNA and DNA floating out there. It's not that our immune systems don't do anything
+
+01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:23.360
+It's not that our immune systems aren't challenged by mother nature all the time
+
+01:30:25.200 --> 01:30:28.400
+It's that that challenge has been grossly exaggerated
+
+01:30:29.360 --> 01:30:31.360
+and that challenges
+
+01:30:33.040 --> 01:30:37.760
+Threat to you has been grossly exaggerated relative to the threats of
+
+01:30:38.480 --> 01:30:40.640
+malnutrition and
+
+01:30:41.280 --> 01:30:45.920
+Toxins in your environment toxins that you put on your skin, etc, etc, etc
+
+01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:50.560
+And so it's just a weird
+
+01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:53.600
+message that's missing so much of
+
+01:30:54.320 --> 01:30:57.520
+the precision that that we're trying to get and
+
+01:30:58.240 --> 01:31:02.400
+You know in a lot of ways as I said on this notes and elsewhere we agree
+
+01:31:02.880 --> 01:31:06.320
+We agree that the gain of function story is a complete hoax
+
+01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:11.120
+We agree that they actually set out to use that as a hoax
+
+01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:16.640
+We agree that they use that hoax to fool people in believing that wow we caught him in a lie
+
+01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:23.120
+And that's how they got people to believe that there was a pandemic. I absolutely agree with that
+
+01:31:23.120 --> 01:31:25.600
+But why and how did they do it?
+
+01:31:29.360 --> 01:31:32.880
+With really intentional lies with very very wicked lies
+
+01:31:33.840 --> 01:31:36.080
+About sequences and about culturing
+
+01:31:38.240 --> 01:31:40.560
+And about the significance of infectious clones
+
+01:31:41.280 --> 01:31:43.680
+And it's really curious that she actually
+
+01:31:44.400 --> 01:31:49.120
+Said infectious clones in that video and actually failed to explain it
+
+01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:57.520
+But just explained it away as fake. It's not viruses. No, it's not viruses because viruses can't make
+
+01:31:58.320 --> 01:32:04.720
+Pure quantities of an RNA genome. They can't it's they can't find that in the wild. We talked about that
+
+01:32:05.280 --> 01:32:07.280
+Of course they can't
+
+01:32:09.680 --> 01:32:14.000
+But as best we can tell it seems like they can find some signal that resembles the
+
+01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:16.720
+the
+
+01:32:17.520 --> 01:32:21.520
+Resemble something of an RNA signal that can be moved between animals
+
+01:32:22.400 --> 01:32:24.400
+And
+
+01:32:24.400 --> 01:32:27.440
+So their best approximation of it is an infectious clone
+
+01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:35.120
+And is it a good approximation? No, it's completely different. It's completely synthetic
+
+01:32:35.120 --> 01:32:38.800
+It's completely way pure that anything that's ever been in nature ever will be
+
+01:32:39.680 --> 01:32:41.680
+Because RNA doesn't do that
+
+01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:48.000
+And so do they ever talk about why they're doing this? Do they ever talk about it?
+
+01:32:48.960 --> 01:32:52.720
+Do they ever say that if you don't believe in viruses that'll keep the digital idea way
+
+01:32:54.160 --> 01:32:57.760
+Do they ever say that if you don't believe in viruses that'll keep the CBDC away
+
+01:33:04.160 --> 01:33:07.120
+Do they ever talk about just stop, you know
+
+01:33:08.080 --> 01:33:13.040
+She spent 18 minutes telling people that there's no viruses, but then that's an indirect statement
+
+01:33:13.040 --> 01:33:16.000
+I guess we shouldn't take the vaccines or or what
+
+01:33:16.960 --> 01:33:18.960
+What about the vaccine schedule
+
+01:33:20.080 --> 01:33:25.920
+What about all the other issues that that people want to understand or is it just about viruses? I don't know
+
+01:33:26.480 --> 01:33:28.480
+I think that was a
+
+01:33:29.040 --> 01:33:34.560
+Pretty fair evaluation of a pretty disingenuous presentation that zeroed in on
+
+01:33:35.360 --> 01:33:37.600
+CHD children's health defense
+
+01:33:38.240 --> 01:33:41.360
+Joseph Mercola and a few other people for no good reason
+
+01:33:42.080 --> 01:33:44.080
+other than to
+
+01:33:44.080 --> 01:33:45.760
+other than to
+
+01:33:45.760 --> 01:33:49.120
+I guess draw attention to support Sam Bailey.com
+
+01:33:50.160 --> 01:33:52.160
+I really don't understand
+
+01:33:52.640 --> 01:33:54.640
+What the motivation is there
+
+01:33:56.160 --> 01:33:58.560
+They really are fighting for some good things
+
+01:33:58.640 --> 01:34:05.200
+But because they don't agree with us and can't read virology like we can they're just on the bench like everybody else
+
+01:34:07.120 --> 01:34:12.240
+Haha, the danger is the eliminated the elimination of the control group. She also didn't say that at all
+
+01:34:12.320 --> 01:34:19.360
+She also didn't say anything about intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb
+
+01:34:19.920 --> 01:34:25.040
+That's actually a really pretty straightforward statement that gets a lot of work done really quick
+
+01:34:25.760 --> 01:34:30.640
+And doesn't make people grind their gears about a lot of virus realer. Did they uh
+
+01:34:31.360 --> 01:34:34.560
+Are they able to isolate viruses or is a FOIA request?
+
+01:34:35.200 --> 01:34:37.120
+Proof that they don't buy aisle
+
+01:34:37.120 --> 01:34:39.520
+I don't understand if you get a FOIA request
+
+01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:44.480
+And they answer it. Does that mean that they didn't isolate the virus or they did isolate the virus?
+
+01:34:45.440 --> 01:34:50.160
+Transfection in healthy humans is criminally negligent. Thanks for joining me tonight. I'll see you guys tomorrow
+
+01:34:51.440 --> 01:34:53.440
+Boop-bye
+
+01:34:55.040 --> 01:34:57.600
+Ego is not questioning yourself what
+
+01:34:59.920 --> 01:35:03.200
+It's a fair question. I don't even know what you're talking about anymore
+
+01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:07.520
+Should actually make you rethink your methods
+
+01:35:08.480 --> 01:35:14.000
+Looking for an immune response to i g i g g what are you talking about?
+
+01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:16.640
+I didn't know man. I don't know
+
+01:35:17.840 --> 01:35:23.600
+I'll keep reading your chat for a little while, but uh, I honestly I think you're struggling there fella
+
+01:35:24.480 --> 01:35:30.480
+Just start treading water for a little while and uh, I'll go back to immunology 101 in a week or so
+
+01:35:31.840 --> 01:35:34.960
+Um, and and we'll start talking about stuff again
+
+01:35:35.120 --> 01:35:37.120
+I
+
+01:35:37.120 --> 01:35:40.720
+Don't know. I don't know what to tell you sunday. I'm presenting to the uh
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+01:35:41.680 --> 01:35:47.360
+To the doctors, uh, the medical doctors for covid ethics in the uk the group that's hosted by
+
+01:35:48.320 --> 01:35:49.920
+uh, steven frost
+
+01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:55.280
+Uh, monday morning. I'm gonna have uh j about a charia on and monday
+
+01:35:55.840 --> 01:36:01.520
+I guess that's really early monday afternoon and then monday early evening. Um, I think at six o'clock
+
+01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:06.240
+Eastern time. I'm gonna have peter mccullis. So monday is a big day for me
+
+01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:07.680
+Um, and sunday
+
+01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:10.320
+I'm gonna be presenting to the doctors in the uk
+
+01:36:10.320 --> 01:36:11.760
+So that'll be a good
+
+01:36:11.760 --> 01:36:17.040
+summary and maybe you'll even get some of your clone thing that you want in there and a little bit more about the pcr and a
+
+01:36:17.040 --> 01:36:24.320
+Little bit more details about the science and the backing it up again. You know, it's been three years doing this already
+
+01:36:24.400 --> 01:36:29.280
+It's not like uh, the the papers aren't out there. It's just getting tiring after a while
+
+01:36:29.280 --> 01:36:34.480
+You know, I kind of feel like the balies, you know, if you don't want to listen to all the stuff that I did before
+
+01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:36.560
+Well, then i'm not going to talk to you now
+
+01:36:37.360 --> 01:36:39.360
+I'm just kidding. I'll see you guys again tomorrow
+
+01:36:44.400 --> 01:36:48.080
+The ego out take the ego out he says take the ego out
+
+01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:52.240
+He tried to be on stream for three years straight
+
+01:36:52.640 --> 01:36:58.080
+Shaking a can on the internet and tell me about ego. I got none brother. I got none
+
+01:36:59.280 --> 01:37:01.440
+You
+
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+You
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+know, I'm going to try and make it a quickie, but you know how that always goes. Sorry about that, guys.
+
+00:49.000 --> 00:55.000
+For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe illness and death.
+
+00:55.000 --> 01:01.000
+For yourselves, your families, and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm.
+
+01:01.000 --> 01:07.000
+For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe illness and death.
+
+01:07.000 --> 01:13.000
+For yourselves, your families, and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm.
+
+01:13.000 --> 01:19.000
+For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe illness and death.
+
+01:19.000 --> 01:25.000
+For yourselves, your families, and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm.
+
+01:25.000 --> 01:31.000
+For the unvaccinated, you're looking at a winter of severe illness and death.
+
+01:31.000 --> 01:36.000
+For yourselves, your families, and the hospitals you may soon overwhelm.
+
+01:43.000 --> 02:02.640
+Good evening ladies and gentlemen, welcome to GIGO and Biological, where we're learning
+
+02:02.640 --> 02:10.160
+biology right now, and trusting the science, right, seems legit.
+
+02:10.160 --> 02:15.600
+These aren't new graphics, actually, these are graphics from 2021, surprise, surprise.
+
+02:15.600 --> 02:20.720
+We've been so hip that what looks like new graphics are actually almost three years old
+
+02:20.720 --> 02:23.440
+now, well, two years old.
+
+02:23.440 --> 02:28.560
+We got Galileo flying in from the left and GIGO and biological from the upper right.
+
+02:28.560 --> 02:38.760
+We got Big Bird, this is 2021, baby.
+
+02:38.760 --> 02:45.800
+Wow Chief, or Christmas, you know, action figures with real masks so you can, I mean,
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+02:45.800 --> 02:50.560
+once they can make you believe absurdities, they can make you commit atrocities, has that
+
+02:50.560 --> 02:57.880
+ever been said before that just seems crazy to me.
+
+02:57.880 --> 03:02.440
+Look at these old slides still looking right.
+
+03:03.440 --> 03:10.320
+I mean, are you kidding, at the heart of this are people who have convinced us to
+
+03:10.320 --> 03:13.520
+fight each other instead of fighting them.
+
+03:13.520 --> 03:15.480
+Who makes this stuff?
+
+03:15.480 --> 03:17.240
+Wow, that must have been some...
+
+03:17.240 --> 03:22.800
+Look at these slides, I mean, seriously.
+
+03:22.800 --> 03:36.040
+Oh, there's a new one, I stuck a new one in there, look at that shout-out, do you remember
+
+03:36.040 --> 03:37.040
+when I did that?
+
+03:37.040 --> 03:43.440
+Did you know that I was already shouting out the real shout-out, covering my eyes, that
+
+03:43.440 --> 03:52.640
+raccoon, that rascally raccoon, but we are doing just fine now.
+
+03:52.640 --> 03:58.000
+If you go in biological, the high resistance, low noise information brief, the only one
+
+03:58.000 --> 04:06.800
+on the internet, the illusion requires your participation to sustain, thank you very much
+
+04:06.800 --> 04:15.440
+to that person on the right there, my best friend and wife, thank you Fairlucks.
+
+04:15.440 --> 04:18.720
+If you have been following me for a while, you're here at the top of the wave, and if
+
+04:18.720 --> 04:23.320
+you're a skilled TV watcher, well, here's your life raft, here's your life preserver,
+
+04:23.320 --> 04:26.920
+your lifeguards are on duty.
+
+04:26.920 --> 04:33.240
+The Baywatch Biology, Gigal Biological, holy cow, where'd that come from?
+
+04:33.240 --> 04:39.880
+The Baywatch Biology, I'm gonna get some shit for that one.
+
+04:39.880 --> 04:41.960
+So this is how it works.
+
+04:41.960 --> 04:48.640
+I've been financially supported for a couple of years by my supporters, now I'm working
+
+04:48.640 --> 04:56.360
+full-time for children's health defense, I was about to say Chicago's health defense,
+
+04:56.360 --> 05:02.120
+I don't know what that was all about, children's health defense.
+
+05:02.120 --> 05:09.680
+And I still actually am partially supported by subscribers and donations, because I do
+
+05:09.680 --> 05:11.800
+put a lot of work into these evenings.
+
+05:11.800 --> 05:18.440
+I am a real life biologist you could find with Google, under the name Jonathan J. Cooley,
+
+05:18.440 --> 05:24.120
+I'm not hiding, I've had my full, full identity on the internet for quite some time,
+
+05:24.120 --> 05:27.520
+not hiding behind anything.
+
+05:27.520 --> 05:30.000
+Lovely to see you all again as well.
+
+05:30.000 --> 05:39.160
+43 viewers, that was my high school basketball number, the best number is 43.
+
+05:39.160 --> 05:40.640
+That's pretty funny.
+
+05:40.640 --> 05:44.560
+Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gigal and Biological High Resistance Low Noise Information Brief,
+
+05:44.560 --> 05:46.160
+brought to you by a biologist.
+
+05:46.160 --> 05:57.520
+It's the 18th of November, 2023, and we are still trying to break down the narrative
+
+05:57.520 --> 05:59.600
+that we've been dealt.
+
+05:59.600 --> 06:07.360
+Look at this slide from 2021 with the nice card, it's almost like an old game show from
+
+06:07.360 --> 06:08.360
+the 80s.
+
+06:08.360 --> 06:15.760
+Our common narrative was the biological bifurcation of America, maybe of Earth.
+
+06:15.840 --> 06:23.880
+We talked a lot about this, we talked about the life before social media and how our brains
+
+06:23.880 --> 06:27.400
+were pretty much oriented around our family, and there was a common narrative that was
+
+06:27.400 --> 06:33.800
+not only in our house on the wall there, you see, but it was also not only on the wall
+
+06:33.800 --> 06:37.720
+there, you see, but it was also on the television.
+
+06:37.720 --> 06:45.080
+And then at some point in the pandemic, these people started to become a little disgruntled
+
+06:45.080 --> 06:52.360
+with what was on TV because nothing that they believed in was on TV anymore.
+
+06:52.360 --> 06:57.840
+And the kids, the young people that have grown up with modern TV and social media, you know,
+
+06:57.840 --> 07:04.000
+I grew up in a time when you had to get up and push buttons on the TV and then there
+
+07:04.000 --> 07:08.000
+was this remote that made clicking noises.
+
+07:08.000 --> 07:13.440
+We didn't upgrade a lot, most people who had televisions didn't upgrade a lot.
+
+07:13.480 --> 07:19.600
+I can remember that my godmother and father, their basement had a television with three
+
+07:19.600 --> 07:22.120
+giant light colors coming out of the front.
+
+07:22.120 --> 07:27.000
+You couldn't walk between the television projector and the screen, or there would be
+
+07:27.000 --> 07:34.280
+this three colored, anyway, long story short, we grew up in a different time.
+
+07:34.280 --> 07:41.240
+And now our common narrative is almost lost in this noise of social media and instant
+
+07:41.240 --> 07:47.280
+access from work and instant access from our friends and all this media at our fingertips
+
+07:47.280 --> 07:53.920
+that allows us to become fractionated and distracted from one another, even in our own homes.
+
+07:53.920 --> 08:01.760
+And so as this has progressed, people have become almost programmed, chosen, choosing
+
+08:01.760 --> 08:06.960
+places on the internet to hide that feel safe, choosing places in this imaginary network
+
+08:06.960 --> 08:10.160
+to hide where it feels safe.
+
+08:10.160 --> 08:14.680
+And so at the start of the pandemic, I've often posited that there were basically four
+
+08:14.680 --> 08:19.720
+kinds of people, people that could see that really, they've picked some kind of independent
+
+08:19.720 --> 08:24.880
+position, but it was really a false one, a blue position, but it's a false one, a red
+
+08:24.880 --> 08:28.520
+one, it's a false one, or you just know that all the positions are false and you're just
+
+08:28.520 --> 08:30.280
+angry.
+
+08:30.280 --> 08:36.080
+But these four people are the basis for where we are right now.
+
+08:37.080 --> 08:43.240
+And this is the fractionization that now we're supposed to choose sides about after
+
+08:43.240 --> 08:47.320
+our common narrative has been destroyed, we're supposed to choose sides about this biological
+
+08:47.320 --> 08:50.000
+scooby-doo, this trap.
+
+08:50.000 --> 08:52.720
+And if you don't understand this trap, then you're never going to get out.
+
+08:52.720 --> 08:57.000
+You've got to understand why the cheese has been free for three years.
+
+08:57.000 --> 09:03.240
+And I think that's, it's a really apt thing to talk about, you know, not to bring up,
+
+09:03.240 --> 09:07.400
+you know, fancy quotes and everything, but Mark Twain is a very smart fella.
+
+09:07.400 --> 09:13.040
+And he, he pointed out that, you know, it's easier to fool someone than it is to convince
+
+09:13.040 --> 09:15.960
+someone that they have been fooled.
+
+09:15.960 --> 09:17.440
+And so that's the task ahead of us.
+
+09:17.440 --> 09:22.240
+We have to convince our family and friends that we were fooled to answer the question,
+
+09:22.240 --> 09:25.880
+was it natural or was it a lab leak?
+
+09:25.880 --> 09:29.240
+And that's really, that's really something special.
+
+09:29.240 --> 09:35.360
+Like you really got a, got a task at your hand if you're, if you're going to try to
+
+09:35.360 --> 09:40.360
+tell them that the last three years was largely a performance.
+
+09:40.360 --> 09:44.400
+But you've got even more cards to play because you can remind them that we were told from
+
+09:44.400 --> 09:49.920
+the very, very beginning of the pandemic before the vaccine was even close to out.
+
+09:49.920 --> 09:55.120
+We were already being told that other vaccines, old vaccines are obviously safe and effective.
+
+09:55.120 --> 10:00.280
+This is how we got rid of diseases for our entire modern history.
+
+10:00.280 --> 10:06.600
+And so we should expect a new vaccine for this novel virus that may have come from a lab,
+
+10:06.600 --> 10:10.720
+but probably it's a natural virus either way.
+
+10:10.720 --> 10:13.320
+I mean, that, that was the, that was the narrative, right?
+
+10:13.320 --> 10:16.840
+I mean, that, that's the whole idea behind this.
+
+10:16.840 --> 10:18.000
+Wait, what's going on here?
+
+10:18.000 --> 10:19.000
+Wait.
+
+10:19.000 --> 10:20.000
+Oh yeah, I had to do this.
+
+10:20.000 --> 10:21.000
+I can do that.
+
+10:21.000 --> 10:22.000
+There we go.
+
+10:22.000 --> 10:23.000
+I'm sorry.
+
+10:23.000 --> 10:24.000
+But anyway, that was the narrative.
+
+10:24.000 --> 10:31.120
+I believe it's much more likely that it's a lab leak.
+
+10:31.120 --> 10:36.520
+And so this bifurcation of Earth continued with transfection is better than infection
+
+10:36.520 --> 10:39.360
+because the viral spike is toxic.
+
+10:39.360 --> 10:45.200
+I bet you can't even remember that these, this, this was actually a talking point.
+
+10:45.200 --> 10:51.320
+Transfection is better than infection because the viral spike is toxic.
+
+10:51.320 --> 10:56.840
+That was a real talking point for almost four or five months in 2021.
+
+10:56.840 --> 10:59.960
+And so this bifurcation just keeps continuing.
+
+10:59.960 --> 11:04.080
+Every card is new and now we're all the way up to the DNA is in the transfections, but
+
+11:04.080 --> 11:09.240
+otherwise they were perfect.
+
+11:09.240 --> 11:13.080
+And of course that's what I'm calling this, that's what I'm calling the Scooby Doo.
+
+11:13.080 --> 11:15.000
+Am I, am I able to put myself here?
+
+11:15.000 --> 11:16.000
+Oh yeah.
+
+11:16.000 --> 11:17.000
+Sorry.
+
+11:17.000 --> 11:18.000
+Hi.
+
+11:18.000 --> 11:19.000
+Good evening.
+
+11:19.000 --> 11:20.000
+Welcome to the show.
+
+11:20.000 --> 11:21.000
+I'm Cuyin.
+
+11:21.000 --> 11:23.800
+I'm coming at you from Pittsburgh.
+
+11:23.800 --> 11:30.920
+This illusion of consensus about a laboratory leak, a novel virus, the millions killed and
+
+11:30.920 --> 11:34.880
+millions more were saved from the gain of function is probably real and maybe even the source
+
+11:34.880 --> 11:39.960
+of this virus and that means that a virus will come again is what Rand Paul and everyone
+
+11:39.960 --> 11:44.040
+has been trying to sustain for, for many, many years now.
+
+11:44.040 --> 11:51.880
+It was laid from very early on and you can't underestimate how little of what we thought
+
+11:51.880 --> 11:59.560
+was a legitimate experience was actually a theater and the deeper you dig, the harder
+
+11:59.560 --> 12:09.320
+you push, the more you realize that surrounding a central core that I like to term the independent
+
+12:09.320 --> 12:16.040
+bright web is surrounded by what is effectively an expanded intellectual dark web.
+
+12:16.040 --> 12:21.240
+And that expanded intellectual dark web is keeping alive this, this faith in a novel
+
+12:21.240 --> 12:25.040
+virus, this faith that millions of people were killed by it, this faith that millions
+
+12:25.040 --> 12:27.640
+more were saved from it.
+
+12:27.640 --> 12:32.480
+The idea that gain of function might be a general, the general source of it.
+
+12:32.480 --> 12:34.280
+And therefore a virus will come again.
+
+12:34.280 --> 12:41.000
+This intellectual dark web that surrounds the inner independent bright web is basically
+
+12:41.000 --> 12:44.080
+what the battle ground were on.
+
+12:44.080 --> 12:49.000
+And so we need to start to organize this independent bright web against this intellectual dark
+
+12:49.000 --> 12:55.960
+web and we need to do it now before censorship and digital ideas used to effectively close
+
+12:55.960 --> 13:00.720
+these gaps with no mistake, with no escape.
+
+13:00.720 --> 13:06.080
+And so I've been trying to use this Scooby-Doo analogy for you and our viewers and people
+
+13:06.080 --> 13:11.360
+that are following GigaOM for the first time to catch up as fast as possible because we
+
+13:11.360 --> 13:16.040
+have been led to believe that there is a mystery to solve and that we have solved it by catching
+
+13:16.040 --> 13:24.080
+them in their lies, by seeing these as bioweapons and that they covered it up in Wuhan or that
+
+13:24.080 --> 13:27.280
+the US government lies to us.
+
+13:27.280 --> 13:33.880
+And of course they even argued and a senator can write about the argument and soon a presidential
+
+13:33.880 --> 13:35.480
+candidate is going to release a book.
+
+13:35.480 --> 13:39.680
+That book's in my hand right now.
+
+13:39.680 --> 13:46.720
+And this narrative is what they have sustained over the last three years to prevent us from
+
+13:46.720 --> 13:52.720
+asking the right questions about where these things originate, how they originate.
+
+13:52.720 --> 13:58.480
+This whole thing is an illusion of consensus about a worst-case scenario, biological,
+
+13:58.480 --> 14:03.000
+laboratory, bioweapon.
+
+14:03.000 --> 14:06.720
+I apologize, this is probably too much motion here.
+
+14:06.720 --> 14:10.920
+We don't need that tunnel analogy too much more.
+
+14:10.920 --> 14:15.760
+I think it's starting to struggle with the memory there.
+
+14:15.760 --> 14:20.160
+But the tunnel analogy is very good because it is an illusion, even that picture that
+
+14:20.160 --> 14:24.520
+was moving there, it looks like you're moving through a tunnel, but it's an illusion and
+
+14:24.520 --> 14:29.640
+that's really what they've done to us with regard to the pandemic, not only by locking
+
+14:29.640 --> 14:34.600
+us down and forcing us to interpret the world through our phones and screens, but more importantly
+
+14:34.600 --> 14:40.240
+locking us down with an illusion of consensus with even people that we thought were independent
+
+14:40.240 --> 14:43.240
+actors.
+
+14:43.240 --> 14:48.480
+And we have been in this glass cube just looking out thinking that we are somehow interacting
+
+14:48.480 --> 14:53.640
+with the real world or that these people or that these people are interacting with
+
+14:53.640 --> 14:57.280
+that real world on our behalf.
+
+14:57.280 --> 15:02.200
+And that's really where the trap lies, that we think because somebody like Robert Malone
+
+15:02.200 --> 15:07.480
+is fighting for his intellectual property and our rights, that why in the world would
+
+15:07.480 --> 15:08.480
+we have to do anything?
+
+15:08.480 --> 15:15.160
+I mean, that's a dude on a white horse literally, and that is the new world order that they've
+
+15:15.160 --> 15:16.160
+cast us in.
+
+15:16.160 --> 15:20.000
+And that's what I want you to see just a glimpse of here before I go to bed.
+
+15:20.000 --> 15:21.000
+I watch this video.
+
+15:21.000 --> 15:24.000
+I don't know when I'm going to have time to do it again because tomorrow I'm presenting
+
+15:24.000 --> 15:26.040
+to the UK doctors.
+
+15:26.040 --> 15:28.000
+And then Monday I have two interviews in a row.
+
+15:28.000 --> 15:34.600
+I have Jay Bhattacharya and then Peter McCullough, so it's going to be a busy day on Monday.
+
+15:34.600 --> 15:37.560
+And so I'm not going to stay up very late tonight, but I just wanted to show you this
+
+15:37.560 --> 15:41.480
+video because it's really extraordinary the kinds of things that they said on this clinical
+
+15:41.480 --> 15:42.720
+update today.
+
+15:42.720 --> 15:53.240
+So I'm going to escape out of here, I'm going to bring this up and scoot it over here and
+
+15:53.240 --> 15:56.640
+then pop this out and away we go.
+
+15:56.640 --> 15:59.000
+Oh, that's not there.
+
+15:59.000 --> 16:00.920
+Pop this out and away we go.
+
+16:00.920 --> 16:04.160
+Do I need to do a control Z here?
+
+16:04.160 --> 16:06.160
+No, I don't think so.
+
+16:06.160 --> 16:16.280
+The podcast about viruses, the kind that make you sick from micro TV.
+
+16:16.280 --> 16:20.040
+This is I'm going to have to stop it really quick because they go a million miles a minute
+
+16:20.040 --> 16:21.040
+with this crash.
+
+16:21.040 --> 16:27.200
+It's a real crash course in September 16th, 2020, idolatry and everything else and you're
+
+16:27.200 --> 16:30.240
+listening to the podcast all about viruses.
+
+16:30.240 --> 16:31.240
+You're not going to believe it.
+
+16:31.240 --> 16:36.160
+Joining me today here at the incubator in New York City, Daniel Griffin.
+
+16:36.160 --> 16:37.560
+Hello, everyone.
+
+16:37.560 --> 16:38.560
+Okay.
+
+16:38.560 --> 16:41.120
+So first of all, keep in mind what he just said there.
+
+16:41.120 --> 16:42.720
+This is at the incubator.
+
+16:42.720 --> 16:44.120
+This is their studio.
+
+16:44.120 --> 16:46.040
+The studio is in Manhattan.
+
+16:46.040 --> 16:47.120
+It is funded.
+
+16:47.120 --> 16:51.080
+It has people that work for it.
+
+16:51.080 --> 16:56.400
+It is a fully funded 501c3 or whatever that is.
+
+16:56.400 --> 17:02.240
+That's a major thing to understand here because this is also faculty members.
+
+17:02.240 --> 17:06.800
+They are taking charitable donations from everything from pharmaceutical corporations
+
+17:06.800 --> 17:09.840
+to large donors, et cetera.
+
+17:09.840 --> 17:14.960
+So the conflicts of interest here, although they might not now be on paper very big, the
+
+17:14.960 --> 17:21.000
+potential for conflicts of interest here are almost infinite.
+
+17:21.000 --> 17:29.880
+The incubator and their best solution is these chairs, that background and laptops
+
+17:29.880 --> 17:36.160
+on their lap, like impressive, I can't wait until the first glass of water is spilled
+
+17:36.160 --> 17:37.160
+on the laptop.
+
+17:37.160 --> 17:39.800
+Yeah, it's nice to be spending some time.
+
+17:39.800 --> 17:42.600
+After this, we're going to go to the Dixon de Pumier book signings.
+
+17:42.600 --> 17:43.600
+That's very exciting.
+
+17:43.600 --> 17:45.800
+Dixon should be in his element, right?
+
+17:45.800 --> 17:47.240
+He will be in his element.
+
+17:47.240 --> 17:51.560
+If you recall, Dixon is the guy who completely blew them out of the water, blew them out
+
+17:51.560 --> 17:56.680
+of the water the other day during that interview, it was really spectacular how he just simply
+
+17:56.680 --> 18:02.280
+was incredulous with their discussion of the HPV vaccine modeling paper.
+
+18:02.280 --> 18:03.960
+It was a really good one to watch.
+
+18:03.960 --> 18:06.600
+If he hadn't missed it, it's a couple of days ago.
+
+18:06.600 --> 18:08.760
+What's on your tie today, Daniel?
+
+18:08.760 --> 18:14.720
+This is a virus, notice a nice symmetry, almost like a corona of spikes around the outside
+
+18:14.720 --> 18:15.720
+there.
+
+18:15.720 --> 18:16.720
+The coronavirus?
+
+18:17.720 --> 18:18.720
+How do they sell it?
+
+18:18.720 --> 18:19.720
+It starts over two or coronavirus.
+
+18:19.720 --> 18:21.440
+Actually, they sell this as HIV.
+
+18:21.440 --> 18:22.440
+You're serious?
+
+18:22.440 --> 18:23.440
+Yeah.
+
+18:23.440 --> 18:24.440
+Yeah.
+
+18:24.440 --> 18:26.440
+I'm going with coronavirus, right?
+
+18:26.440 --> 18:28.080
+Maybe that's cheap.
+
+18:28.080 --> 18:32.600
+Do you understand what this is representing?
+
+18:32.600 --> 18:38.440
+It shows you exactly what kind of cartoon joke virology really is.
+
+18:38.440 --> 18:48.000
+They feign this superiority in fidelity and molecular accuracy and that they understand
+
+18:48.000 --> 18:55.560
+all these fine details at this very fine scale of molecular and chemical interaction,
+
+18:55.560 --> 19:05.320
+electrostatic charges that interact in three-dimensional space and aqueous and hydrophobic environments.
+
+19:05.320 --> 19:08.000
+It's spectacular.
+
+19:08.000 --> 19:13.680
+And here they are making fun of the joke cartoons that they know, they have to know,
+
+19:13.680 --> 19:20.400
+have been used to mislead the young all around the world for decades and now during the pandemic
+
+19:20.400 --> 19:29.800
+around the globe with an almost, well, definitely a malevolent level of just disregard for truth.
+
+19:29.800 --> 19:33.000
+Listen carefully to these two charlatans.
+
+19:34.000 --> 19:38.320
+Yeah, it's nice to be spending some time.
+
+19:38.320 --> 19:41.120
+After this, we're going to go to the Dixon de Pumier book signings.
+
+19:41.120 --> 19:42.120
+That's very exciting.
+
+19:42.120 --> 19:44.280
+Dixon should be in his element, right?
+
+19:44.280 --> 19:45.880
+He will be in his elements.
+
+19:45.880 --> 19:47.960
+What's on your tie today, Daniel?
+
+19:47.960 --> 19:49.360
+This is a virus.
+
+19:49.360 --> 19:54.400
+Notice a nice symmetry, almost like a corona of spikes around the outside there.
+
+19:54.400 --> 19:55.400
+Coronavirus?
+
+19:55.400 --> 19:56.400
+Sure.
+
+19:56.400 --> 19:57.400
+How do they sell it?
+
+19:57.400 --> 19:58.840
+It starts over two or coronavirus.
+
+19:58.840 --> 20:00.800
+Actually, they sell this as HIV.
+
+20:00.800 --> 20:01.800
+You're serious?
+
+20:01.800 --> 20:02.800
+Yeah.
+
+20:02.880 --> 20:05.560
+I'm going with coronavirus, right?
+
+20:05.560 --> 20:07.560
+Maybe that's GP160 or something.
+
+20:07.560 --> 20:11.200
+Well, it has the conical cords, and that just doesn't.
+
+20:11.200 --> 20:12.200
+Yeah.
+
+20:12.200 --> 20:14.760
+That's a problem when you get artists doing the viruses, right?
+
+20:14.760 --> 20:15.960
+It depends what they start with.
+
+20:15.960 --> 20:16.960
+Anyway, it's a nice tie.
+
+20:16.960 --> 20:18.960
+Blackened tan, I guess.
+
+20:18.960 --> 20:19.960
+Yeah, it's my fancy.
+
+20:19.960 --> 20:21.520
+You got a drink?
+
+20:21.520 --> 20:22.520
+Blackened tan.
+
+20:22.520 --> 20:24.760
+Yeah, it's a, yeah.
+
+20:24.760 --> 20:26.320
+You take Guinness and mix them.
+
+20:26.320 --> 20:28.640
+Yeah, you mix like a light beer and then you...
+
+20:28.640 --> 20:30.480
+That seems like heresy, doesn't it?
+
+20:30.480 --> 20:31.480
+Yes.
+
+20:31.480 --> 20:32.480
+Yes.
+
+20:32.480 --> 20:33.480
+All right.
+
+20:33.480 --> 20:34.480
+Enough beer.
+
+20:34.480 --> 20:38.880
+All right, so let us start with a Jack Kerouac quotation.
+
+20:38.880 --> 20:46.400
+Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and fads and popular opinion.
+
+20:46.400 --> 20:51.360
+So there's a real interesting pattern that I have yet to point out simply because I haven't
+
+20:51.360 --> 20:55.920
+wasted a lot of your time with this particular version of Twiv, the clinical update because
+
+20:55.920 --> 20:58.480
+it's so absurd.
+
+20:58.480 --> 21:06.840
+But one thing that I think is a really interesting aspect of this almost obvious scyop is that
+
+21:06.840 --> 21:13.160
+when he chooses a quote, it is almost always a quote that is ridiculously on point for
+
+21:13.160 --> 21:16.960
+what these two clowns are actually up to, whether they know it or not.
+
+21:16.960 --> 21:19.160
+Listen again, it's hysterical.
+
+21:19.160 --> 21:20.160
+Okay.
+
+21:20.160 --> 21:22.360
+All right, enough beer.
+
+21:22.360 --> 21:23.360
+All right.
+
+21:23.360 --> 21:26.560
+So let us start with a Jack Kerouac quotation.
+
+21:26.920 --> 21:32.560
+Out of focus are not accomplished by those who eat Kerouac quotation.
+
+21:32.560 --> 21:39.840
+Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and fads and popular opinion.
+
+21:39.840 --> 21:44.600
+So let's start off with, apparently, the fad these days is to not...
+
+21:44.600 --> 21:49.600
+Now that's a very different thing than to state that great things are not accomplished
+
+21:49.600 --> 21:55.240
+by people who control those things, right?
+
+21:55.240 --> 22:00.080
+Let's listen to that quote one more time because I think it's almost so apt to say
+
+22:00.080 --> 22:07.000
+that the people who control those things can achieve great things, atrocities, even.
+
+22:07.000 --> 22:13.120
+With a Jack Kerouac quotation, great things are not accomplished by those who yield to
+
+22:13.120 --> 22:16.880
+trends and fads and popular opinion.
+
+22:16.880 --> 22:18.760
+Trends, fads, and popular opinion.
+
+22:18.760 --> 22:22.600
+If you can control those three things, though, you can do lots of nasty stuff.
+
+22:25.720 --> 22:30.040
+So it's always the quote is always some kind of double edged sword that cuts him right
+
+22:30.040 --> 22:34.280
+through the middle and cuts the narrative right through the middle.
+
+22:34.280 --> 22:38.360
+You can almost tell that they know what they're doing or the person that's choosing these
+
+22:38.360 --> 22:41.360
+quotes knows what they're doing.
+
+22:41.360 --> 22:46.800
+So let's start off with, apparently, the fad these days is to not protect our children
+
+22:46.800 --> 22:48.920
+with vaccines, Vincent.
+
+22:48.920 --> 22:51.240
+So I will start off with that disturbing news.
+
+22:51.240 --> 22:57.520
+So the MMWR coverage with selected vaccines and exemption from school vaccine requirements
+
+22:57.520 --> 23:03.360
+among children in kindergarten, United States, 2022, 23 school year.
+
+23:03.360 --> 23:08.400
+So this is basically the last year, 2022 through 2023 school year.
+
+23:08.400 --> 23:15.040
+The exemption, the exemption rate increased to 3% across this country.
+
+23:15.040 --> 23:21.840
+Vins increased in 41 states, exceeding 5% in 10 states.
+
+23:21.840 --> 23:26.640
+And this is available, CDC.gov, we'll leave in a link.
+
+23:26.640 --> 23:29.440
+But you can go through and you can find your state.
+
+23:29.440 --> 23:36.760
+And I, Vincent, I pulled a few out for you just to sort of highlight who's the winner
+
+23:36.760 --> 23:41.000
+when it comes to losing Idaho at 12.1%.
+
+23:42.000 --> 23:49.000
+Idaho, what kind of crazy and so we're talking about philosophical objections here, not necessarily
+
+23:49.000 --> 23:54.280
+religious objections to getting vaccines to go to school.
+
+23:54.280 --> 23:58.440
+And up 12% from the year before, I'm not really sure what that means.
+
+23:58.440 --> 24:03.800
+If they were very low, it might not be that big of an increase.
+
+24:03.800 --> 24:09.800
+And keep in mind that these guys are obviously wants to make it seem as though the increases
+
+24:09.800 --> 24:11.240
+are really disturbing.
+
+24:11.240 --> 24:17.800
+And obviously, giggle and biological takes the stance that, you know, intramuscular injection
+
+24:17.800 --> 24:21.760
+of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
+
+24:21.760 --> 24:28.840
+And these guys are clearly pro vaccine as one of the top three best inventions of humankind
+
+24:28.840 --> 24:32.760
+right up there with the wheel and the space shuttle.
+
+24:33.760 --> 24:43.160
+You know, Arizona, 7.4 Wisconsin, 7.2, Washington, you know, they're a great Pacific state.
+
+24:43.160 --> 24:49.680
+We got 4% who's winning when it comes to winning New York, 0.1.
+
+24:49.680 --> 24:51.880
+Hey, we're in New York right now.
+
+24:51.880 --> 24:52.880
+I'm proud of it.
+
+24:52.880 --> 24:53.880
+I'm proud of you.
+
+24:53.880 --> 24:54.880
+Okay.
+
+24:54.880 --> 24:58.880
+And Joe Manchin country, West Virginia, less than 0.1.
+
+24:58.880 --> 24:59.880
+So.
+
+25:00.880 --> 25:02.080
+And these are.
+
+25:02.080 --> 25:05.520
+I would guess that that's there's something weird about that in West Virginia.
+
+25:05.520 --> 25:07.280
+It might not be that anybody cares.
+
+25:07.280 --> 25:11.960
+And if you don't need to get an exemption and the state never reports it or never checks
+
+25:11.960 --> 25:21.400
+or whatever, it's not clear to me how this is really reinforced in Pennsylvania.
+
+25:21.400 --> 25:28.160
+Now that I know, you can just print out a form and sign it and it's done like you have
+
+25:28.160 --> 25:31.360
+a philosophical objection to this, this kind of medicine.
+
+25:31.360 --> 25:32.560
+It's done.
+
+25:32.560 --> 25:33.680
+And that's the way it should be.
+
+25:33.680 --> 25:38.200
+Of course, if we were a free country and we were dealing with real biologists and we
+
+25:38.200 --> 25:44.080
+were talking about real immunology, but we're not.
+
+25:44.080 --> 25:47.800
+Exemptions that have been granted to children to not be vaccinated to go to school.
+
+25:47.800 --> 25:48.800
+Yeah.
+
+25:48.800 --> 25:51.440
+They medical exemptions most no philosophical.
+
+25:51.440 --> 25:52.440
+That's this new thing.
+
+25:52.440 --> 25:53.440
+Philosophically, philosophic.
+
+25:53.440 --> 25:57.440
+I just don't sort of believe in protecting my children against these vaccine.
+
+25:57.440 --> 26:01.920
+You know, I think that's in order to know philosophical.
+
+26:01.920 --> 26:02.920
+That's this new thing.
+
+26:02.920 --> 26:05.040
+So this is going to get disturbing right now.
+
+26:05.040 --> 26:09.160
+He's going to characterize the philosophical objection as a new thing, but it's really
+
+26:09.160 --> 26:10.160
+not a new thing.
+
+26:10.160 --> 26:12.440
+It's an expansion of the religious objection.
+
+26:12.440 --> 26:17.480
+It's a more generalized way of expressing the religious objection.
+
+26:17.480 --> 26:25.480
+If you have to go so far as to say that you, your particular version of a deity forbids
+
+26:25.480 --> 26:32.240
+you from participating in a vow or taking a vaccination.
+
+26:32.240 --> 26:33.800
+You should be able to have better.
+
+26:33.800 --> 26:39.640
+And I'm not saying that's not a great reason, but you should have better, more, more concrete
+
+26:39.640 --> 26:40.640
+reasons.
+
+26:40.640 --> 26:45.000
+I mean, even saying that there's an irreducible complexity to the immune system and to our
+
+26:45.000 --> 26:53.560
+physiology that I believe far exceeds the, the claimed expertise of those that would
+
+26:53.560 --> 26:59.160
+push the vaccines on us as a requirement.
+
+26:59.160 --> 27:09.320
+And I am very, very skeptical of anybody that says that they want the vaccines tested unless
+
+27:09.320 --> 27:14.680
+they explicitly say that that is a strategy in order for everybody to learn that these
+
+27:14.680 --> 27:19.800
+are, these are wholly inappropriate for augmenting the immune system.
+
+27:19.800 --> 27:24.320
+The trouble is, is that if you're asking for them to be tested, then somebody's got
+
+27:24.320 --> 27:30.440
+to be injected intramuscularly to augment their immune system which I'm arguing is dumb.
+
+27:30.440 --> 27:32.320
+So I don't like that argument.
+
+27:32.320 --> 27:38.120
+I think it's just easier to argue the biology as it is and let these people kind of flounder
+
+27:38.120 --> 27:42.840
+around the very simple statement that the immune system is organized from the inside
+
+27:42.840 --> 27:45.600
+out and toward barriers.
+
+27:45.600 --> 27:50.560
+And so any attempt to augment the immune system should occur at that barrier and not
+
+27:50.560 --> 27:52.880
+behind it.
+
+27:52.880 --> 27:54.960
+And they won't be able to make an argument against that.
+
+27:54.960 --> 27:58.720
+They can say, oh, it's not really all the images to work because the immune system is
+
+27:58.720 --> 28:02.600
+all over your body or something like they could say that, but it doesn't make any biological
+
+28:02.600 --> 28:04.100
+sense.
+
+28:04.100 --> 28:05.360
+They can't expand on it.
+
+28:05.360 --> 28:09.720
+They can't, they can't continue to make this argument with yabbats.
+
+28:09.720 --> 28:12.760
+They have to have a kind of coherent story.
+
+28:12.760 --> 28:16.440
+I can go on about this for three hours straight.
+
+28:16.440 --> 28:22.200
+I think that in order to have a philosophical, I don't believe in protecting my children
+
+28:22.200 --> 28:27.200
+against these vaccine, you know, I think that in order to have a philosophical, I don't
+
+28:27.200 --> 28:34.080
+believe in protecting my children against these vaccine preventable diseases.
+
+28:34.080 --> 28:39.920
+That's their best characterization of someone who would rather forego the vaccination schedule
+
+28:39.920 --> 28:50.720
+or God forbid have some of the live attenuated vaccines after age five.
+
+28:50.720 --> 29:00.360
+I mean, I don't want to tell people what they can and cannot do.
+
+29:00.360 --> 29:05.080
+And to a certain extent, I don't know.
+
+29:05.080 --> 29:09.480
+I think we have to make some choices sometimes when we talk to people and we have to decide
+
+29:09.480 --> 29:14.280
+whether we're fighting for freedom or whether we're fighting for that particular philosophy,
+
+29:14.280 --> 29:20.560
+which is ultimately this is the ultimately the biology, the fundamental biology is that
+
+29:20.560 --> 29:26.800
+augmenting the immune system from an intramuscular injection doesn't really make sense.
+
+29:26.800 --> 29:33.080
+But do we really want that to be our goal with everybody or do we want to take a more
+
+29:33.080 --> 29:38.840
+general idea that by telling them that we don't understand this biology enough for
+
+29:38.840 --> 29:49.160
+them to act so arrogant as to force people to use their proposed solution?
+
+29:49.160 --> 29:54.400
+Do we want to even go more general and say that it's freedom and what freedom is is
+
+29:54.400 --> 30:01.320
+our right to choose and more importantly, our right to inform consent and to say no.
+
+30:01.320 --> 30:04.320
+And so each one of these angles is a little bit different.
+
+30:04.320 --> 30:07.200
+One of them appeals more to your critical thinker.
+
+30:07.200 --> 30:13.680
+One of them appeals more to your to your libertarian or to your to your patriot.
+
+30:13.680 --> 30:20.040
+And at the dinner table at Thanksgiving, we're going to have to decide with some people which
+
+30:20.040 --> 30:22.520
+one of those is the angle to take.
+
+30:22.520 --> 30:26.920
+Some of them are going to be open to the biological angle, but they might be very well very well
+
+30:26.920 --> 30:32.520
+open to the freedom angle, the sovereignty angle.
+
+30:32.520 --> 30:35.720
+And if they're open to the sovereignty angle, then they might even be open to the idea that
+
+30:35.720 --> 30:40.880
+people would lie to you in order to get that sovereignty away from your children.
+
+30:40.880 --> 30:44.840
+People like these people might lie to you and your children and to college age kids
+
+30:44.840 --> 30:52.000
+in order to steal that sovereignty for the for the team that they play for because make
+
+30:52.000 --> 30:57.640
+no mistake about it, there are teams on the field right now and they want nothing more
+
+30:57.640 --> 31:02.240
+than for us never to form our own team.
+
+31:02.240 --> 31:07.680
+The independent bright web would be their worst nightmare.
+
+31:07.680 --> 31:11.560
+People that call each other out, people that talk regularly, people that debate with each
+
+31:11.560 --> 31:15.960
+other and collectively elevate and promote one another.
+
+31:15.960 --> 31:22.840
+That could be so dangerous.
+
+31:22.840 --> 31:26.320
+And that's what they don't want right now because the intellectual dark web was exactly
+
+31:26.320 --> 31:33.520
+that kind of pyramid with people like Joe Rogan and the Weinstein boys on the top and
+
+31:33.520 --> 31:39.840
+then underneath our Lex and all those other guys that get element sponsorships and then
+
+31:39.840 --> 31:45.840
+under them is Tim Poole and all these other clowns that look up to one half of the pyramid
+
+31:46.840 --> 31:53.440
+and the whole narrative and argument structure is controlled from the top.
+
+31:53.440 --> 31:58.080
+A independent bright web would be controlled from the bottom and we would be elevating
+
+31:58.080 --> 32:06.960
+one another and that's what I think would work really well here.
+
+32:06.960 --> 32:12.080
+That's what would defeat these kinds of people who have all this artificial elevated algorithmic
+
+32:12.080 --> 32:20.720
+help, financial comfort come from weaponized piles of money all around the world.
+
+32:20.720 --> 32:28.360
+We've got to give ourselves a chance to overcome the handicap of having to fight against weaponized
+
+32:28.360 --> 32:31.120
+piles of money.
+
+32:31.120 --> 32:32.120
+Independent bright web.
+
+32:32.120 --> 32:36.880
+I don't know if that's going to stick or not, but I think it's a really good idea.
+
+32:36.880 --> 32:37.880
+Objection.
+
+32:37.880 --> 32:43.640
+You should have to answer a 20 question test on vaccines when you need to pass and I'll
+
+32:43.640 --> 32:46.800
+bet none of them would pass because I'm going to make up the test you and I will make up
+
+32:46.800 --> 32:47.800
+the test.
+
+32:47.800 --> 32:48.800
+All right.
+
+32:48.800 --> 32:49.800
+Yeah.
+
+32:49.800 --> 32:50.800
+All right.
+
+32:50.800 --> 32:51.800
+Sounds good.
+
+32:51.800 --> 32:52.800
+Yeah.
+
+32:52.800 --> 32:53.800
+I'm on vaccines.
+
+32:53.800 --> 32:56.240
+You need to pass and I'll bet none of them would pass because I'm going to make up the
+
+32:56.240 --> 32:57.240
+test.
+
+32:57.240 --> 32:58.240
+You and I will make up the test.
+
+32:58.240 --> 32:59.240
+All right.
+
+32:59.240 --> 33:00.240
+Yeah.
+
+33:00.240 --> 33:01.240
+Yeah.
+
+33:01.240 --> 33:02.240
+I would like to take that test.
+
+33:02.240 --> 33:03.240
+This is really disturbing.
+
+33:03.240 --> 33:07.280
+We're discussing this on the last urgent care call this week.
+
+33:07.280 --> 33:10.720
+And you know, just prepare to start seeing stuff that we thought we weren't going to
+
+33:10.720 --> 33:11.720
+see so much anymore.
+
+33:11.720 --> 33:15.440
+Well, the good news is if you have a child and you vaccinate them, they'll be protected
+
+33:15.440 --> 33:16.440
+from disease.
+
+33:16.440 --> 33:17.440
+Yeah.
+
+33:17.440 --> 33:18.440
+Yeah.
+
+33:18.440 --> 33:20.640
+But unfortunately, the kids don't have a say in this matter and they'll get sick and
+
+33:20.640 --> 33:23.480
+they may have lifelong disabilities as a consequence.
+
+33:23.480 --> 33:24.480
+Wow.
+
+33:24.480 --> 33:28.320
+Lifelong disabilities as a consequence of not getting vaccinated.
+
+33:28.320 --> 33:31.120
+That's a weird flip of things, isn't it?
+
+33:31.120 --> 33:38.800
+Where the lifelong disability is going to come from measles, mumps, rubella, pertussis,
+
+33:38.800 --> 33:46.840
+RSV, the flu, coronavirus, which one of those is going to give you lifelong chronic illness?
+
+33:46.840 --> 33:52.680
+Boy, that's a, that's a, that's a inversion right there.
+
+33:52.680 --> 33:53.680
+That is an inversion.
+
+33:53.680 --> 34:00.320
+I got to like blow a whistle and say inversion, foul.
+
+34:00.320 --> 34:02.920
+I mean, that's, that's, I don't know what to say.
+
+34:02.920 --> 34:04.200
+That's, that's pretty funny.
+
+34:04.200 --> 34:06.360
+I mean, the parents, they're not bad people.
+
+34:06.360 --> 34:11.560
+They're just, they're the victims of this massive misinformation campaign that is not
+
+34:11.560 --> 34:15.200
+benefiting them, but is benefiting certain people who are filling their coffers.
+
+34:15.200 --> 34:16.200
+Wow.
+
+34:16.200 --> 34:21.200
+Camping them, but is benefiting certain people who are filling their coffers.
+
+34:21.200 --> 34:22.960
+Filling their coffers.
+
+34:22.960 --> 34:26.160
+Flue looks like a little bit of a rise.
+
+34:27.160 --> 34:28.160
+Flue is coming.
+
+34:28.160 --> 34:29.160
+Flue is coming.
+
+34:29.160 --> 34:30.160
+Flue is coming.
+
+34:30.160 --> 34:31.160
+Flue is coming.
+
+34:31.160 --> 34:39.160
+This is six times the number of cases compared to this time last year.
+
+34:39.160 --> 34:40.160
+Wow.
+
+34:40.160 --> 34:42.160
+Six times the number of cases.
+
+34:42.160 --> 34:43.920
+Mostly hitting kids.
+
+34:43.920 --> 34:45.400
+So 19 and younger.
+
+34:45.400 --> 34:47.000
+Yeah, they're reading from a teleprompter.
+
+34:47.000 --> 34:48.800
+My guess is they got the equipment.
+
+34:48.800 --> 34:52.160
+I mean, you know, the spare no expense.
+
+34:52.160 --> 34:54.800
+This is the Jurassic Park of propaganda here.
+
+34:55.800 --> 35:02.640
+Most of the U.S. not really seeing much of a rise, but, you know, we've got New Mexico,
+
+35:02.640 --> 35:08.440
+we've got Alaska, Florida's is jumping in with high levels.
+
+35:08.440 --> 35:14.000
+So we're, we're starting to see an increase, you know, particularly in those, those little
+
+35:14.000 --> 35:16.160
+kids for and under.
+
+35:16.160 --> 35:22.320
+And I'll mention so far of the isolates, it's looking like 90% are H1 viruses.
+
+35:22.320 --> 35:26.880
+That's good because those are less virulent than the H3 viruses, right?
+
+35:26.880 --> 35:27.880
+So we'll see.
+
+35:27.880 --> 35:29.680
+We'll see how it goes.
+
+35:29.680 --> 35:35.200
+I don't know, six, six times the number of cases in Puerto Rico, a lot of predictions
+
+35:35.200 --> 35:39.360
+that this might be a challenging winter ahead of us.
+
+35:39.360 --> 35:40.360
+All right.
+
+35:40.360 --> 35:41.360
+Puerto Rico.
+
+35:41.360 --> 35:42.360
+Puerto Rico.
+
+35:42.360 --> 35:49.240
+So I can't skip when I hear something about Canada or us, a total of 1313 cases have been
+
+35:49.240 --> 35:52.120
+reported in Nevada so far.
+
+35:52.120 --> 35:57.800
+This year of those, we're talking about a fungus, clinical cases, actual infections,
+
+35:57.800 --> 35:59.720
+not just colonization.
+
+35:59.720 --> 36:05.960
+At this time last year, Nevada had a total of 774, we're almost double that.
+
+36:05.960 --> 36:06.960
+There were cases.
+
+36:06.960 --> 36:11.080
+You will recall that there was one paper from vodkaing in the Netherlands that looked
+
+36:11.080 --> 36:17.120
+at the activation of the immune system or the response of immune system in some assay.
+
+36:18.120 --> 36:22.360
+I don't know if it was a T cell assay or just a lymphocyte assay.
+
+36:22.360 --> 36:30.640
+And looking at a battery of bacterial antigens and a battery of fungal antigens after Moderna
+
+36:30.640 --> 36:33.960
+vaccination and they showed a change.
+
+36:33.960 --> 36:43.520
+And so I think it was hypersensitivity to bacteria and hypo sensitivity to fungus, but it could
+
+36:43.520 --> 36:44.520
+have been the other way around.
+
+36:44.520 --> 36:45.520
+It doesn't matter.
+
+36:45.560 --> 36:51.760
+There's going to be a whole host of potential mechanisms for immune compromise that could
+
+36:51.760 --> 36:58.000
+be dysregulation, that could be some kind of lymphocyte opinion.
+
+36:58.000 --> 37:01.800
+There's lots of different reports and lots of different descriptions about what happens.
+
+37:01.800 --> 37:09.760
+But generally speaking, the immune system becoming compromised because of this kind of
+
+37:09.760 --> 37:14.000
+misguided augmentation attempt is not unusual.
+
+37:14.000 --> 37:19.200
+And so it's interesting that, of course, they're going to try to make a story about
+
+37:19.200 --> 37:26.680
+this rising fungal cases of infection in people, but never make any connection or never even
+
+37:26.680 --> 37:27.680
+ask the question.
+
+37:27.680 --> 37:30.800
+I wonder if these people have had all their COVID shots and if they have it, it's made
+
+37:30.800 --> 37:31.800
+it more vulnerable.
+
+37:31.800 --> 37:35.320
+Of course, it probably has.
+
+37:35.320 --> 37:36.560
+It is 11 o'clock.
+
+37:36.560 --> 37:40.520
+I've been on for 36 minutes and I'm going to try and cut it a little bit short.
+
+37:40.600 --> 37:46.680
+I really wanted you to just see the tie and to hear the immediate report about the decrease
+
+37:46.680 --> 37:49.520
+in vaccination rate and the way that they discussed it.
+
+37:49.520 --> 37:55.040
+The rest of the show just goes on with the mythology, talking about COVID, talking about
+
+37:55.040 --> 38:00.040
+different variants, talking about whether or not certain drugs that are given to old
+
+38:00.040 --> 38:07.080
+people when they have COVID-19 or SARS-CoV-2, I guess, by PCR or something like that, whether
+
+38:07.080 --> 38:08.840
+or not their variant changes.
+
+38:09.840 --> 38:11.360
+It's all a bunch of bogus bogus.
+
+38:11.360 --> 38:16.080
+I don't really think it's worth our time, but I did want you to see that and then I just
+
+38:16.080 --> 38:20.920
+did want to test this out a little bit to see if this makes sense and if you remember
+
+38:20.920 --> 38:29.120
+this at all, I want you to think about how easy it would be for them to take what was
+
+38:29.120 --> 38:37.960
+a background signal, an RNA-DNA background signal, and that's represented by the train.
+
+38:37.960 --> 38:43.640
+And then they can take and use PCR testing and lateral flow testing that confounds that
+
+38:43.640 --> 38:49.600
+background signal with seroprevalence to other things and with the presence of other RNA
+
+38:49.600 --> 38:57.440
+and DNA, be it endogenous or exogenous, and confounds that with the idea that there is
+
+38:57.440 --> 38:59.200
+a novel virus.
+
+38:59.200 --> 39:04.920
+And so in this case, he is confounding the train moving and stopping and letting people
+
+39:04.920 --> 39:10.140
+out with him being able to stop it and him needing to start it.
+
+39:10.140 --> 39:14.280
+And they can actually, you can actually use this analogy to describe almost the entire
+
+39:14.280 --> 39:20.320
+Scooby-Doo because while we are meant to believe that this guy is stopping and starting the
+
+39:20.320 --> 39:26.280
+train, what I want you to understand is that the illusion of consensus is not one guy.
+
+39:26.280 --> 39:30.360
+Imagine if there were, if you're a little kid standing on the wall, because that's
+
+39:30.360 --> 39:34.440
+what you were when you had your phone or you're watching TV, you're a little kid standing
+
+39:34.480 --> 39:40.160
+on the wall and that train comes into the station and not one guy in shorts, but 40
+
+39:40.160 --> 39:49.600
+guys in big work outfits with greasy gloves on and work protective gear.
+
+39:49.600 --> 39:55.920
+And those 40 guys do the same thing that this guy is doing and they grunt as it stops and
+
+39:55.920 --> 39:59.680
+they push and they grunt as they get the train going again.
+
+39:59.680 --> 40:07.080
+Now the illusion of consensus is a lot easier to believe or it's a lot harder to dismiss
+
+40:07.080 --> 40:11.840
+than if it's just one guy and he's chalking up his hands and you can hear that the train
+
+40:11.840 --> 40:15.640
+is making all these other noises.
+
+40:15.640 --> 40:20.840
+But if you got 40 guys out there or 400 guys out there and they pretended to stop the train
+
+40:20.840 --> 40:28.520
+and they pretended to start the train, well, holy cow, now you've got an illusion going.
+
+40:28.520 --> 40:32.320
+And if you get people on the left and on the right, you get people on the lab leak
+
+40:32.320 --> 40:37.440
+side and on the natural virus side, if you get the people on the early treatment side
+
+40:37.440 --> 40:41.920
+and the antibiotic side, if you get the people on the hydroxychloroquine side and the ivermectin
+
+40:41.920 --> 40:53.280
+side to all participate in this illusion, we've got a serious problem on our hands.
+
+40:53.280 --> 40:58.240
+Do you understand what I'm saying here, ladies and gentlemen, do you get why the Scooby-Doo?
+
+40:58.240 --> 41:03.420
+It doesn't have to be the Scooby-Doo, it can be the train pusher.
+
+41:03.420 --> 41:09.560
+These people have all pretended to be part of the train pushing crew.
+
+41:09.560 --> 41:15.280
+Some of them sold an ivermectin book or a hydroxychloroquine book or a bioweapon book
+
+41:15.280 --> 41:26.860
+or a lies book or a Wuhan lie book or a horror or a no virus story and they all end up pushing
+
+41:26.860 --> 41:34.740
+the same faith in a novel virus, they all push the same silly illusion of consensus
+
+41:34.740 --> 41:41.620
+that somehow a combination of our actions and our fumbling, we were able to stop a virus
+
+41:41.620 --> 41:48.020
+and stop a pandemic and saved people that millions of other people got killed.
+
+41:48.020 --> 41:52.700
+This illusion of consensus has to be broken, I don't know what analogies to use other
+
+41:52.700 --> 41:57.500
+than the faith in a novel virus, that's what it is, it's a faith and it's a faith
+
+41:57.500 --> 42:02.520
+that was sustained by a bunch of people pretending to stop that train or knowing how it stopped
+
+42:02.520 --> 42:11.100
+or participating in it, they sustained the illusion and that faith is a lie and all you
+
+42:11.100 --> 42:14.820
+need is that background train running on schedule.
+
+42:14.820 --> 42:20.940
+All you need is that background train running on schedule and this all works fine.
+
+42:20.940 --> 42:27.580
+PCR tests, yeah sure, here they go, here they are, hydroxychloroquine, oh boy that saves
+
+42:27.580 --> 42:32.380
+everybody, oh Ivermectin, oh slow down, we need some new stuff because there's a new
+
+42:32.380 --> 42:38.660
+thing out there.
+
+42:38.660 --> 42:45.100
+They pretended to stop the train and the train was an endemic background, the train was the
+
+42:45.100 --> 42:50.220
+protocols being murder and the transfection not being medicine but none of these people
+
+42:50.220 --> 42:56.060
+told you that but that's what the train is, the protocols are murder, transfection is
+
+42:56.060 --> 43:02.340
+not medicine and there was a background signal that they confounded with a pandemic idea
+
+43:02.340 --> 43:07.020
+and none of these people have told you that the train is actually going all by itself
+
+43:07.020 --> 43:12.060
+and it doesn't matter what these people did, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, it doesn't
+
+43:12.060 --> 43:17.900
+matter, it was always there, the train just runs on schedule, protocols were murder and
+
+43:17.900 --> 43:23.860
+the transfection is not medicine and that's why this no virus thing is, there's no trains
+
+43:23.860 --> 43:32.820
+at all, that train's not even there.
+
+43:32.820 --> 43:37.300
+I don't know what to say, I'm just trying to find ways to teach it better, ways for
+
+43:37.300 --> 43:40.420
+people to understand it easier.
+
+43:40.420 --> 43:46.860
+An active theater is required for that train gag to work and the more people that participate
+
+43:46.860 --> 43:53.340
+in that theater besides that one dude in shorts, the better that theater becomes.
+
+43:53.340 --> 43:57.660
+The more varied they are in their response, some of them could even get dragged by the
+
+43:57.660 --> 44:09.580
+train, you know, some of them could scream or let their shoes drag or they could stumble,
+
+44:09.580 --> 44:15.340
+make it look even cooler, some of them could have ropes, you know what I mean?
+
+44:15.340 --> 44:24.500
+That's what they did, just a great big impromptu train stopping show and that impromptu train
+
+44:24.500 --> 44:28.980
+stopping show is on this slide right here because they don't talk about what the train
+
+44:28.980 --> 44:35.460
+really is which is just PCR fraud and variant sequencing fraud, death certificate fraud,
+
+44:35.460 --> 44:40.780
+a fraud about how an RNA virus in a small quantity in a market could become a planet
+
+44:40.780 --> 44:47.180
+covering RNA virus in a few weeks.
+
+44:47.180 --> 44:52.660
+Transfection being useful, come on, natural immunity, has anyone taught you that?
+
+44:52.660 --> 44:58.140
+How many people do you know that actively call themselves on social media immunologists
+
+44:58.140 --> 45:06.580
+and have never taught single podcast immunology 101 lecture with pictures?
+
+45:06.580 --> 45:12.660
+I'll think of a few off the top of my head, immunologist, I'm pretty sure Jessica Rose
+
+45:12.660 --> 45:19.540
+has immunologist in the top of her, in the top of her Twitter thing and she might even
+
+45:19.540 --> 45:22.980
+say that she has a postdoctoral degree in immunology.
+
+45:22.980 --> 45:29.780
+I think that the disambiguation wizard named Robert Malone also calls himself an immunologist
+
+45:29.780 --> 45:38.140
+but he's never bothered to explain it and I'm sure there are many more immunologists
+
+45:38.140 --> 45:42.900
+that haven't bothered to teach immunology 101 with respect to the background signal,
+
+45:42.900 --> 45:51.500
+with respect to the response to RNA viruses in general and the reason why they're doing
+
+45:51.500 --> 45:57.660
+this is because this is not about a pandemic, this is about digital ID, digital currency,
+
+45:57.660 --> 46:02.860
+the collapse of the dollar, the inversion of the sovereignty of your children.
+
+46:02.860 --> 46:09.300
+This is about enslavement, this is about a multi-generational plan and they want you
+
+46:09.300 --> 46:14.380
+to be thinking about next year in the election, they're thinking about their kids' kids and
+
+46:14.380 --> 46:19.740
+what their kids' kids will own and what their kids' kids will know that our kids won't
+
+46:19.740 --> 46:23.420
+know and that's why they will be the rulers.
+
+46:23.420 --> 46:26.940
+They want to govern the whole world with this mythology ladies and gentlemen, that's the
+
+46:26.940 --> 46:27.940
+plan.
+
+46:27.940 --> 46:35.140
+Please stop all transfections in humans, please stop transfections in humans, please stop them
+
+46:35.140 --> 46:39.900
+because they're trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary.
+
+46:39.900 --> 46:44.540
+This has been GIGO and biological where we say intramuscular injection by any combination
+
+46:44.540 --> 46:49.900
+of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb, transfection and
+
+46:49.900 --> 46:53.700
+healthy humans is criminally negligent.
+
+46:53.700 --> 46:57.380
+Ladies and gentlemen, this has been GIGO, biological to high-resistance, low-noise
+
+46:57.380 --> 47:00.820
+information brief brought to you by a biologist.
+
+47:00.820 --> 47:11.300
+Thank you very much for joining me and I'll see you again tomorrow night.
+
+47:11.300 --> 47:16.580
+Sunday is at 3 o'clock Eastern, 3 o'clock Eastern I will be presenting live to the UK
+
+47:16.580 --> 47:23.580
+Doctors 3 o'clock tomorrow and then I think it's on my schedule the afternoon
+
+47:23.580 --> 47:30.380
+and early evening for J by Vicharya and Peter McCullough on Monday.
+
+47:30.380 --> 47:34.780
+Thank you very much again for joining me, I'm sorry I was so late.
+
+47:34.780 --> 47:39.620
+I almost let the streak go and then I thought you know what, maybe I should try to keep
+
+47:39.620 --> 47:44.020
+the streak going at least until the book is available or something like that anyway.
+
+47:44.020 --> 47:46.020
+Thanks everybody for being here, see you again tomorrow.
+
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+Testing one, two, three, test one, two,
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+this is giga-ohm biological,
+
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+a high-resistance low-noise information brief
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+brought to you by a biologist.
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+Test one, two, testing one, two.
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+Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.
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+Test one, two, testing one, two, test.
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+Good evening, hello, welcome, test one, two.
+
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+How do I sound, Pamela?
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+Am I okay and in sync?
+
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+If that is the case, I'm going to open the Zoom meeting now.
+
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+Hello, somebody give me a sound check.
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+Sound check, loud and synced, thank you very much.
+
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+Thank you very, very much.
+
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+Let's see where this opens up here, there.
+
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+Who's there, yes, me, good, join.
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+Location, contrary to their government's position.
+
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+I mean, it just shows you how bureaucrats
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+don't think they're obliged to their oath of office
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+or any kind of ethical.
+
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+Can you explain though, I don't know what you're,
+
+01:08.080 --> 01:11.080
+when you say bully, are you talking of religious belief,
+
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+are you talking about political stance?
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+In this case, this was a political stance
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+in support of the Palestinians.
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+01:20.640 --> 01:23.240
+It wouldn't matter if they were just in support of them.
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+I might bring that down until they're done talking
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+and they're about to start.
+
+01:29.160 --> 01:33.520
+I'm on mute, my video is on, should be okay.
+
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+So the gymnast was on the steps of the capital.
+
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+Hello everybody, good to see you, hi Mark.
+
+01:40.800 --> 01:43.400
+Hi Albert, hi Tony, hi Kristi.
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+Hi, the whole garden girl, I am Katniss, hello everybody.
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+01:52.440 --> 01:56.080
+Hello, hello, hello summer in snow and summer.
+
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+Hello, Kim.
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+Oh, there's a dude on a boat, wow, that's dope.
+
+02:14.760 --> 02:17.920
+Hi, bio cam, fish flying girl, fly fish girl.
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+Quick, you wanna say before we get moving?
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+Yeah, just really quickly because people are all over.
+
+02:24.160 --> 02:26.600
+I just wanted to know if anybody's had any experience
+
+02:26.600 --> 02:30.280
+with the envisiline, the teeth aligners,
+
+02:30.280 --> 02:32.600
+it's kind of a replacement for braces.
+
+02:32.600 --> 02:35.320
+My daughter has become thick using them.
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+Just the heaps, Jeremy Willets is a dentist,
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+but also my wife is an expert on that.
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+So if you send me an email,
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+I'll happily tee you up with Julie.
+
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+Thank you.
+
+02:47.880 --> 02:50.440
+Invisiline, they do some amazing stuff.
+
+02:50.440 --> 02:52.400
+The interesting question with the dentist,
+
+02:52.400 --> 02:54.400
+whether general dentists should be doing stuff
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+02:54.400 --> 02:57.280
+that the orthodontist have to do,
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+02:57.280 --> 02:59.080
+they give an extra five years of training
+
+02:59.080 --> 03:02.400
+and then general dentists get three weeks of training
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+03:02.400 --> 03:04.320
+and they help themselves out and able to
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+03:04.320 --> 03:06.000
+realign all of the teeth, so.
+
+03:07.880 --> 03:11.000
+This week, special week, 60th anniversary
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+of the wiping out of JFK on Thursday.
+
+03:15.880 --> 03:20.240
+Is it Thursday, 22nd, what's it about today, 20th?
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+03:20.240 --> 03:23.320
+Winning Monday, Wednesday, yes.
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+03:23.320 --> 03:25.120
+Hello, JJ, good to see you.
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+03:26.000 --> 03:29.400
+Hello, I'm gonna give a couple of minutes for people
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+to come online.
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+Jerry is a cold in Ireland at the moment.
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+03:38.040 --> 03:41.360
+It's not particularly cold, but it's wet and miserable,
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+as is the usual.
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+03:43.040 --> 03:45.640
+We don't get a lot of really cold weather,
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+but we get a lot of miserable cold.
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+03:48.560 --> 03:52.080
+It kind of makes you wish it was colder.
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+03:52.080 --> 03:53.440
+Just a little bit.
+
+03:53.440 --> 03:55.960
+Yeah, that's Celtic sunshine, get it right.
+
+03:55.960 --> 03:57.720
+Celtic sunshine.
+
+03:57.720 --> 04:01.080
+That dude probably has the best accent on the whole planet.
+
+04:02.560 --> 04:06.560
+Dr. Jerry Waters from Ireland, great, great fellow.
+
+04:06.560 --> 04:09.040
+And they were saying, the temperature in Canada
+
+04:09.040 --> 04:12.840
+was 10 to 15 degrees lower than it was in Ireland,
+
+04:12.840 --> 04:16.080
+and yet it felt colder here because it was the,
+
+04:16.080 --> 04:18.920
+it's this sort of a, it's,
+
+04:18.920 --> 04:23.200
+that there isn't that brisk, you know, crisp coldness.
+
+04:23.200 --> 04:26.320
+It's kind of a wet coldness that hangs on you.
+
+04:27.440 --> 04:30.080
+But otherwise, things are great over here.
+
+04:31.520 --> 04:32.360
+Excellent.
+
+04:32.360 --> 04:35.000
+Well, Jerry, I'm delighted to hear a lot of Irish buddies,
+
+04:35.000 --> 04:37.480
+and I'm doing some pretty serious equity,
+
+04:37.480 --> 04:39.400
+raising with an Irish group.
+
+04:40.640 --> 04:41.480
+So...
+
+04:41.480 --> 04:42.320
+Can you...
+
+04:43.320 --> 04:46.720
+With Irish groups that are related to the cannabis thing,
+
+04:46.720 --> 04:48.120
+or the flax.
+
+04:48.120 --> 04:49.880
+You're not interesting.
+
+04:49.880 --> 04:50.880
+Very.
+
+04:50.880 --> 04:52.880
+And your equity raising.
+
+04:54.840 --> 04:56.360
+What does that mean?
+
+04:56.360 --> 04:59.040
+You're collecting money for them.
+
+04:59.040 --> 05:03.600
+No, no, they're, they're finding $20 million for me.
+
+05:09.000 --> 05:10.000
+Oh.
+
+05:10.000 --> 05:11.000
+I'm your man.
+
+05:12.320 --> 05:16.200
+JJ, I left $20 million, really, and handy, and available.
+
+05:16.200 --> 05:21.600
+Now, on Saturday, I interviewed Kate Shemerani, UK nurse.
+
+05:21.600 --> 05:24.200
+You must have, you must have, you must have heard of Kate Shemerani.
+
+05:24.200 --> 05:25.760
+She's fabulous.
+
+05:25.760 --> 05:29.960
+And her analysis of the, of the,
+
+05:29.960 --> 05:32.840
+she, her, her, how shall I say,
+
+05:32.840 --> 05:36.760
+her articulation of nurses,
+
+05:36.760 --> 05:40.960
+describing nurses under the National Homicide System,
+
+05:40.960 --> 05:42.880
+the NHS that she calls it,
+
+05:42.880 --> 05:45.320
+as paid assassins.
+
+05:45.320 --> 05:48.640
+Well worth hearing, and I'm gonna get her on a guest here,
+
+05:48.640 --> 05:52.040
+because if you want someone who stood up for truth and justice,
+
+05:52.040 --> 05:54.080
+that's Kate Shemerani.
+
+05:55.280 --> 05:58.200
+All right, we'll start this.
+
+05:58.200 --> 06:01.720
+Jonathan, I'll make you a co-host.
+
+06:03.760 --> 06:06.800
+Tom, done the same.
+
+06:07.800 --> 06:12.800
+And we will start this recording.
+
+06:14.800 --> 06:16.800
+Recording in progress.
+
+06:16.800 --> 06:18.800
+Great to see you again.
+
+06:18.800 --> 06:23.800
+JJ, to have you here to take us the next step on our, on our journey.
+
+06:23.800 --> 06:25.800
+The frauds continue.
+
+06:25.800 --> 06:29.800
+Bill Gates has announced this morning in an article that soon we're going
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+to have a little agent.
+
+06:31.800 --> 06:33.800
+We won't have computer programs,
+
+06:33.800 --> 06:38.800
+but we'll have an agent in our ears telling us how to solve a particular problem,
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+06:38.800 --> 06:42.800
+or you'll talk to it, talk, like this is a, this is a,
+
+06:42.800 --> 06:45.800
+if we get a chance, I'll show you the article,
+
+06:45.800 --> 06:47.800
+and wow, they're going crazy.
+
+06:47.800 --> 06:50.800
+I'll just praise you by the second.
+
+06:50.800 --> 06:52.800
+All right, everybody.
+
+06:52.800 --> 06:54.800
+Let's get Stevens here.
+
+06:54.800 --> 06:56.800
+Excellent.
+
+06:56.800 --> 07:02.800
+Let's get this show on the road.
+
+07:03.800 --> 07:08.800
+And welcome to medical doctors for COVID ethics international.
+
+07:08.800 --> 07:13.800
+There's a discussion with JJ Cooey, who we're delighted to welcome again.
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+07:13.800 --> 07:17.800
+This group was founded by Dr. Steven Frost,
+
+07:17.800 --> 07:21.800
+two over two years ago, two and a half years ago during the darkest days
+
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+of the COVID scam responses with a desire to pursue five things.
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+07:25.800 --> 07:30.800
+Truth, ethics, justice, freedom and health.
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+07:30.800 --> 07:33.800
+Steven has stood up against government and power over the years,
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+and has been a whistleblower and activist,
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+his medical specialist, Radiology.
+
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+I'm Charles Cobess, the moderator of this group.
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+I must relate to his passion provocateur.
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+07:42.800 --> 07:46.800
+I've practiced law for 20 years before challenging career 30 years ago.
+
+07:46.800 --> 07:50.800
+And over the past 12 years, I've helped parents and lawyers to strategize remedies
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+for vaccine damage and damage from bad medical advice.
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+I'm also the CEO of an industrial hemp company.
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+We comprise lots of professions and we're from all around the world.
+
+08:02.800 --> 08:05.800
+Many of us thought that vaccines were okay.
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+08:05.800 --> 08:09.800
+Now many of us proudly say, yes, we are passionate anti-vaxxers.
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+And it's interesting to note that more and more health experts are coming in saying
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+all vaccines must be altered until proper safety and efficacy studies are done.
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+If this is your first time here, welcome and feel free to introduce yourself
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+in the chat and where you're from.
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+If you publish a newsletter or a podcast or you have a radio or TV show
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+08:29.800 --> 08:34.800
+or you've written a book, put the links into the chat so we can follow you, promote you, and find you.
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+Most of us understand we're in the middle of World War III,
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+and that there are various battle lines as part of this war.
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+I say there are 12 battle lines.
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+The medical science debate is one of 12 battle lines in the war that we are in.
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+Most of us understand the development of science and that the science is never settled.
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+Some of us believe in the existence of viruses.
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+Some do not.
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+Some are on the fence.
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+Others describe viruses as cleanup mechanisms of the body.
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+This meeting runs for two and a half hours after which for those with the time,
+
+09:11.800 --> 09:14.800
+Tom Rodman runs a video telegram meeting.
+
+09:14.800 --> 09:16.800
+Tom puts the links into the chat if you're able to join.
+
+09:16.800 --> 09:20.800
+We'll listen to JJ Kiwi for as long as JJ wishes to speak,
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+and then we have Q&A, Stephen Frost,
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+via long established tradition.
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+Ask the first questions for 15 minutes.
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+There's no censorship.
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+It's a free speech environment.
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+If you're offended by anything, be offended.
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+We are genuinely not interested.
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+We reject the offense industry that requires nobody to say anything that may offend another.
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+We come with an attitude and perspective of love and not fear.
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+Fear is the opposite of love.
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+Fear squashes you.
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+Love on the other hand expands you.
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+It's an interesting question.
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+If you're a parent, I have five children.
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+If you're a parent and you love your children,
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+do you let them say and do whatever they want on grounds of equality and diversity?
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+Think about that.
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+What does love actually demand?
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+These twice weekly meetings are not just talk fest and extraordinary range of actions
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+and initiatives have been generated from linkages made by attendees in these meetings.
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+If you have a solution or product or links or resources that will help people put the details in the chat,
+
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+the meeting is recorded, it's uploaded on the Rumble channel.
+
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+And now it's JJ, welcome to you again.
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+Thank you again for giving us your time, wisdom and insights.
+
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+And thank you Stephen Frost for creating this group and for organizing JJ to be with us today.
+
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+JJ, over to you.
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+I'm assuming you can hear me okay.
+
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+Beautiful.
+
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+I actually think I need to thank everybody here for taking your time to listen to me for 40 minutes or so.
+
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+I'm going to try and make this one a rather quick one because I was asked specifically to speak about the DNA and the transfections.
+
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+And so I want to kind of just give you a 30,000 foot view of that relative to the entire pandemic narrative and then open it up for questions.
+
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+And a lot of times I think we get somewhere better with questions and me drawing it on a piece of paper and people get what they want to hear.
+
+11:10.800 --> 11:15.800
+And I've repeated myself so many times here thanks to the graciousness of our hosts.
+
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+And so I just I don't want to waste too much time today with what I want to say.
+
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+So I'm going to try and be really quick as I babble now for the first five minutes.
+
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+So just to make sure everybody knows I haven't done this in a while so I just want to do it again.
+
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+I used to be a patch clamp physiologist, which is a guy who takes the brains of an animal out while they're alive.
+
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+Makes them really cold and then makes slices of the brain so that small micro circuits of neurons are preserved enough so that you can make recordings for multiple neurons and characterize their physiological,
+
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+electro physiological connections between them.
+
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+And at some point it became useful to use a series of transfection agents to label different kinds of neurons and even to control them physiologically while you were recording from their neighbors.
+
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+And that fundamental technique and how it was used to map small micro circuits in the brain was a methodology that I spent probably five or eight years of my neuroscience career developing.
+
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+So I know a little bit about transfection and how it can be used in an animal model of an in vitro model of a micro circuit in the brain.
+
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+And you can use my last name C O U E Y with two big J's between a hyphen on PubMed or I think this is Google Scholar.
+
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+I think this is research gate or that's research gate.
+
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+But if you know how to spell my name, you can find me. I've had my name out there since it was the way that you trade your, your, your credentials in science. You have to use your real name and you don't want that to be diluted by misspellings or multiple uses.
+
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+And so I've been Jonathan J. Cooley officially as a biologist for about 20 years.
+
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+And I like to start this out by saying something very succinct.
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+And I would like to just put out this broad challenge for anybody to that wants to discuss why these things aren't really solid biological statements to make.
+
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+Just by the second. Yeah, JJ, do you want to share your screen or do you want us to put highlight? You want? Yes, I think.
+
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+Sorry, please go up to the top right and select speaker. I'm going to switch myself to the lower corner in a minute. And so I can do it right now. That's okay. I'll just do it right now.
+
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+So if you still can't see me, I'm down here now.
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+Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb. I don't like to use the word dumb so much except that it has some real, you know, good, deep meaning for people.
+
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+And I want people to think about why it is that I would make such a broad general statement. Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
+
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+Transfection in healthy humans is indeed criminally negligent. I would say that. Yeah.
+
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+Ting is switched off. Jerry, you're here. Sorry.
+
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+It's okay.
+
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+Transfection in healthy humans is indeed criminally negligent. And the reason why I say that is because there are thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of academic biologists and academic doctors who through the course of their bench investigations know exactly the limitations
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+of transfection and could not in any way shape or form, not know that this was wholly inappropriate for healthy humans.
+
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+And then the final one down here I'm going to add for this one in case anybody wants to talk about it at the end.
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+Viruses are not patterned integrities. A pattern integrity is basically anything that we can call a species.
+
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+And particularly ourselves, we are each a pattern integrity and taking biological concepts that we've come to understand patterned integrities with and applying them to what is essentially a molecule, even maybe a self replicating molecule is very dishonest, disingenuous and dubious.
+
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+And so I think these three big biological principles are what we need to center on for this little discussion and what I want to center on now.
+
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+So first of all, this slide is actually from 2021, the very beginning of 2021 was the first time I used this slide and I want to use it again because I can't believe how accurate it still is.
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+Our common narrative back in the beginning of 2021, I was calling the biological bifurcation of America. It's really the bifurcation of Earth.
+
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+And by bifurcation, I mean splitting. In the old days, that's me, 51 year old guy, I grew up on a couch with a TV that you had to get up to change channels and there were only three channels in Northern Wisconsin.
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+And it usually meant that the narrative about what made a good person and how you made it in life and what constituted good people versus bad people was the same.
+
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+In the picture on the back of my living room wall as it was on television, even though there was a red and a blue team on TV.
+
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+They still pretty much agreed about the narrative of the American way, you know, two cars in a house, mom, dad and kids, a dog, you know, whatever vacation that that kind of stuff was all kind of accepted across the board.
+
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+And for many, many, many, I mean, 20, 30 years, that was okay. And then the pandemic comes along.
+
+16:34.800 --> 16:46.800
+Donald Trump came along, the pandemic came along and everything started to careen out of control. Nothing on TV started to really be congruent with what we were reading in places, what we were following in places.
+
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+And because a lot of these people, like myself, were more or less locked into old mainstream media sources, we became just aware that this was going on, but not really fully aware of what was going on on the Internet.
+
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+And so we've just became angry at the theater that's on TV and the fact that really both sides were working against us for the corporations and for private interests.
+
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+Now, at the start of the pandemic, we have to see our populations as actually already being divided, not only by red and blue in America or left and right around the world, but we were also divided in a way that we weren't divided pre-social media.
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+The dinner table met something and the way that you interacted with your parents and the way you interacted with your siblings at the dinner table was like a microcosm of how you would interact with people outside of the house.
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+And now it can easily be that people outside of your house have more social interaction and more social influence on our children and even on ourselves than our child we have on our own children.
+
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+And that is perhaps by design, but it is the way we are right now, and we have to come to terms with that because that is the context in which the pandemic was rolled out, where people who are already used to using their cell phones as their primary window to the world could be more easily programmed to accept that the pandemic was happening,
+
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+whereas older people like ourselves were more used to the idea that people lie to get what they want, that people would lie to govern us.
+
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+This concept is not so familiar to those people who grew up with modern cable television with hundreds of channels in social media.
+
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+And so it is on this background, a very different background that one of you typically on television, it's on this background that this trap was laid.
+
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+We don't have a common narrative anymore except for the pandemic.
+
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+And if we don't understand this, then we're not going to die in this trap.
+
+18:48.800 --> 18:57.800
+But the problem in the trick is is exactly what Mark Twain highlighted is that it's easier to fool someone than to convince them that they have been fooled.
+
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+And our task is to awaken people to the fact that they have been indeed fooled.
+
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+And so I apologize for maybe beating this dead horse, but I want to remind you a little bit again with slides that are almost three years old now.
+
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+The first thing that they split the earth on, and it is the earth, right? Everybody in all countries in all different languages is debating for almost three years now. Was it natural or was it a lab leak?
+
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+And people started debating because of being forced to. I'm dealing cards here because this is a big game.
+
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+Vaccines are safe and effective antibodies from vaccines can be better than the antibodies from infection.
+
+19:40.800 --> 19:47.800
+Another card that they dealt us was a transfection is better than infection because the viral spike is toxic.
+
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+And so this bifurcation of America that I was calling it back then is now at a stage where America has brought out a news story, which is that there is DNA in the transfections and otherwise they were pretty perfect.
+
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+And so we have to be very, very careful that we don't take this bait in the wrong way, that we don't move in the direction that the narrative people would like us to move in.
+
+20:09.800 --> 20:19.800
+And that's why I like to use this analogy of a Scooby-Doo, the idea that they've made us feel like we're a group of teenagers, and we caught the adults in a lie.
+
+20:20.800 --> 20:30.800
+We caught the senator who was calling out the NIH guy and we can see it on his emails and we can see it in the private communications about the proximal origin.
+
+20:30.800 --> 20:41.800
+And we can see it in the diffuse proposal and we can see it in Ralph Barracks denial and we can see it in in in eco health alliances just not being open with the NIH.
+
+20:42.800 --> 20:53.800
+And that's us feeling like we're unmasking the bad guys and solving the mystery, but what it actually is is us brainwashing ourselves into accepting a story.
+
+20:53.800 --> 20:55.800
+And what is that story?
+
+20:55.800 --> 21:03.800
+I use this tunnel animation because it is a illusion that we are moving through this neon lit tunnel.
+
+21:03.800 --> 21:14.800
+Like it was an illusion that we experienced a pandemic and the way that they have gotten us to believe this illusion is with stories consistent from the start.
+
+21:14.800 --> 21:22.800
+One of the first books to ever come out in the pandemic by the Breggans, COVID-19 and Global Predators is all about a bioweapon.
+
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+What really happened in Wuhan is about a lab leak by an Australian journalist.
+
+21:27.800 --> 21:32.800
+A guy who claims to be a whistleblower says it was a lab leak in Wuhan.
+
+21:32.800 --> 21:41.800
+A guy who claims to have invented the mRNA technology that saved millions of people on the planet thinks that the US government lied about it.
+
+21:41.800 --> 21:48.800
+The Senator wrote a book about his pursuit of the truth, deception, the great COVID cover up.
+
+21:48.800 --> 22:00.800
+And now an independent candidate for president with more polling support than any independent candidate has ever pulled has another book coming out.
+
+22:00.800 --> 22:08.800
+Also about a lab leak, gain a function, bioweapons.
+
+22:08.800 --> 22:12.800
+For years of books, this has not changed.
+
+22:12.800 --> 22:21.800
+Interestingly enough, the author of this book sued the author of that book and both books are selling because that gets extra attention for them.
+
+22:21.800 --> 22:24.800
+What's happening here?
+
+22:24.800 --> 22:40.800
+What's happening here is an orchestrated theater designed for us to accept the challenge of solving a mystery and then watching all of these performers lead us through the dinner theater.
+
+22:40.800 --> 22:43.800
+In 2018, the earth was clean.
+
+22:43.800 --> 22:47.800
+In 2019, somewhere at the end of the year, something leaked.
+
+22:47.800 --> 22:54.800
+And the reason why I say scenario is one through three is because it could have been a bat cave coming from a bat cave.
+
+22:54.800 --> 23:06.800
+It could have been a bat cave virus coming out of a laboratory, or it could have been a bat cave virus that was combined with other viruses to be gained a function coming out of a laboratory.
+
+23:06.800 --> 23:13.800
+And that virus changed every year to different variants that kept spreading and that we could track around the world.
+
+23:13.800 --> 23:19.800
+Omicron came out of South Africa and traveled around the world again.
+
+23:19.800 --> 23:23.800
+And now here we are at the end with an illusion of consensus that this happened.
+
+23:23.800 --> 23:34.800
+And the only real question is, you know, I understand that the lockdowns and EUAs were kind of a rush, but millions of people were killed by a virus, millions more were saved from a virus.
+
+23:34.800 --> 23:37.800
+And we should focus on getting a function in bio weapons.
+
+23:37.800 --> 23:51.800
+In this scenario, this faith in a novel virus, we have defeated disease and epidemics in the past using vaccination, not public sanitation or clean water or nutrition, or better medicine, or antibiotics.
+
+23:51.800 --> 23:57.800
+Novel coronaviruses can jump from other species in the pandemic. This is just normal in this world.
+
+23:57.800 --> 24:03.800
+PCR false positives are very rare. Asymptomatic spread is very real.
+
+24:03.800 --> 24:18.800
+And variants are evidence of both spread and continuing evolution of a single virus that started out as a small puddle in outside of a laboratory or in a on the shoe of somebody who walked to the market or maybe in an animal at the market.
+
+24:18.800 --> 24:28.800
+That quantity of RNA has now replicated almost flawlessly for three and a half years and covered the planet in itself.
+
+24:28.800 --> 24:41.800
+We spend money studying viruses, including gain of function research. That's this TV scenario, one through three, that the people have been completely bamboozled on the left and the right to accept because they solved the mystery. They know what happened.
+
+24:42.800 --> 24:54.800
+And the real thing is that's a lie and it's a conflated background signal. If there is a background signal that that test tests for, that those sequences find that's always been there and always been a minor.
+
+24:54.800 --> 25:05.800
+Something problem signal phenomenon, then the faith in a novel virus that is a new way of dying is a lie.
+
+25:06.800 --> 25:17.800
+I think I'm overloading a little bit, but we're actually right where they want us because everybody by solving that mystery has accepted there's a novel virus, millions died, more were saved, gain of function is real and a virus will come again.
+
+25:17.800 --> 25:24.800
+And I say it like that because it is a religion. It's a little bit like a religion. They believe in something and they won't question that.
+
+25:24.800 --> 25:34.800
+And I believe a lot of these people can be dissected based on this. I'm sorry that that cartoons there if that annoys anybody, but that's Scooby Doo's original beginning.
+
+25:34.800 --> 25:47.800
+These many of these people were involved in laying down a worst case scenario narrative and are involved in not making sure that we never ask questions relevant to these things.
+
+25:47.800 --> 25:57.800
+We can talk about all with all kinds of dissident ideas. We can discuss all kinds of different directions of debate as long as we don't question any of these things.
+
+25:58.800 --> 26:13.800
+And the way that they did it, of course, is with this discussion of pandemic potential and bad caves, pandemic potential being available in cell culture or animal passage or stitching things together to invert our sovereignty.
+
+26:13.800 --> 26:24.800
+And the addition to this slide is that specifically that role of that story is to make people think that the worst case scenario is possible.
+
+26:24.800 --> 26:42.800
+Therefore, it was worth locking down. It was worth using the mRNA in an impure form. It was worth doing everything we did because if this had been the worst case scenario, if it had gone south, then it would have been a disaster.
+
+26:43.800 --> 27:05.800
+You know, on the order of like nuclear war. And that is indeed what in that video earlier that was playing in the background of Rand Paul. That's what Rand Paul says that Richard E. Bright and Kevin Esfelt testified in front of Congress that gain of functioned viruses represent a danger greater than nuclear weapons.
+
+27:06.800 --> 27:21.800
+And that is the new world order that they want to trap our children. And they want our children to believe that this is possible, that eventually it's going to be possible for anybody that's nefarious enough and really just wants to to do it in their garage.
+
+27:21.800 --> 27:33.800
+And this consensus was laid down by people who are still protecting it, protecting this idea as a possibility. Now, first of all, I want you to think carefully that the Scooby Doo, sometimes it doesn't work for everybody.
+
+27:33.800 --> 27:42.800
+So I'm trying an old thing that I started with already three and a half years ago. The subway breaks and the engine of this subway are damaged.
+
+27:42.800 --> 27:50.800
+And so this dude is compensating for the damage to keep the train on schedule. And I just want you to digest the meaning of that statement.
+
+27:50.800 --> 27:57.800
+The subway breaks and engine are damaged and this dude is compensating for the damage to keep the train on schedule.
+
+27:57.800 --> 28:10.800
+And I want you to do a thought experiment and I want you to imagine that I bring a bunch of my 11 year old sons basketball players that I'm coaching.
+
+28:10.800 --> 28:16.800
+I bring them to this subway station and I tell them the same story.
+
+28:16.800 --> 28:23.800
+And they're 11 year old boys, they play basketball, they're in sixth grade, excuse me.
+
+28:23.800 --> 28:28.800
+And all those boys are like, what? That's ridiculous. That's stupid.
+
+28:28.800 --> 28:45.800
+Now, let's do the same thing with 40 guys, giant men dressed in armor with some kind of blinking lights on their arms that make it look like they're electronically enhanced.
+
+28:45.800 --> 28:56.800
+And then let's have them all synchronously pull on the train to stop it and push it to go and have them make noise and be really dramatic about it.
+
+28:56.800 --> 29:05.800
+Now suddenly it might be a little bit harder for my sons basketball team to disbelieve that that's what's going on.
+
+29:06.800 --> 29:11.800
+If I said we're going to put 150 guys dressed like that.
+
+29:11.800 --> 29:15.800
+Do you see my point here? Because that's what they did with the pandemic.
+
+29:15.800 --> 29:19.800
+Who declared a pandemic of a dangerous novel virus?
+
+29:19.800 --> 29:23.800
+These stories were introduced and controlled for national security reasons.
+
+29:23.800 --> 29:28.800
+It's not just people pulling on the train and then pretending to push it.
+
+29:28.800 --> 29:30.800
+It's more elaborate than that.
+
+29:30.800 --> 29:39.800
+In order to sustain this pandemic, people had to agree to agree that a novel virus means everybody vulnerable.
+
+29:39.800 --> 29:44.800
+They had to agree that this PCR was really high fidelity. It's great. It's totally useful.
+
+29:44.800 --> 29:57.800
+They had to agree that lateral flow testings, tests that were shipped in from China by the millions to the UK, we had to agree that those who were also very high fidelity tests totally useful.
+
+29:58.800 --> 30:05.800
+We had to agree that novel treatment debates like about hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin are real because this is a novel virus.
+
+30:05.800 --> 30:07.800
+We don't know what will work.
+
+30:07.800 --> 30:12.800
+And so that led to this debate about antibiotics don't work on viruses.
+
+30:12.800 --> 30:15.800
+That's something that the twib people still say.
+
+30:15.800 --> 30:18.800
+That the CDC will still say.
+
+30:18.800 --> 30:22.800
+Plus this misdirection with steroids, misuse, disuse.
+
+30:23.800 --> 30:28.800
+The novel protocols that also included remdesivir, medazolam, ventilation.
+
+30:28.800 --> 30:36.800
+These were all parts of people faking the stop of the train, faking the pushing of the train going, yep, there is a pandemic.
+
+30:36.800 --> 30:38.800
+Look at all of us.
+
+30:38.800 --> 30:40.800
+Look at all of us trying.
+
+30:40.800 --> 30:42.800
+Look at how hard we're trying.
+
+30:44.800 --> 30:46.800
+And that's how this was done.
+
+30:46.800 --> 30:48.800
+Never mind the financial incentives.
+
+30:48.800 --> 30:52.800
+Never mind the elderly care home malfeasance that we now know of.
+
+30:52.800 --> 31:01.800
+Never mind the fact that nobody with immunologist after their name has ever given an immunology 101 lecture about this pandemic ever.
+
+31:01.800 --> 31:05.800
+Never mind that not one person has done that.
+
+31:05.800 --> 31:08.800
+That calls themselves an immunologist, talked about nutrition.
+
+31:08.800 --> 31:09.800
+Never.
+
+31:09.800 --> 31:11.800
+We can go on and on on this list.
+
+31:11.800 --> 31:24.800
+But what you have to realize is you have to start to key into the fact that all of these people who were involved in this train pushing and pulling exercise are still pulling and pushing on the same in the same stick.
+
+31:24.800 --> 31:30.800
+They haven't moved on to summarizing the calamity of the pandemic, the giganticness of the lies.
+
+31:30.800 --> 31:34.800
+They're still focused on their one little part of the act.
+
+31:34.800 --> 31:45.800
+They're focused on their one little place they're supposed to pull on because it's 150 people lined up on this train, all pretending together that makes it so convincing.
+
+31:45.800 --> 31:48.800
+That's what the Scooby Doo is.
+
+31:48.800 --> 31:50.800
+They've changed the way we think.
+
+31:50.800 --> 31:54.800
+And so now you've got a really in light of what I've explained.
+
+31:54.800 --> 31:59.800
+And I have done no details there, but I can go into any details you want.
+
+31:59.800 --> 32:07.800
+The question is, are they creating an illusion of consensus about there being DNA in the shot and why would they do that?
+
+32:07.800 --> 32:16.800
+So the first thing I want to call your attention to in this card game is what happened in 1999, which is the death of Jesse Gelsinger.
+
+32:16.800 --> 32:24.800
+Jesse Gelsinger had an orthonine trans-carbamylase deficiency, an excellent genetic disease of the liver.
+
+32:24.800 --> 32:42.800
+And they tried to use adenovirus to replace the gene, replace the enzyme that he was missing, because otherwise he was just going to have this tragic life where being alive costs so much medical intervention all the time that he's basically just in the hospital all the time.
+
+32:42.800 --> 32:45.800
+And so it was a really shitty life that this young man had.
+
+32:45.800 --> 32:53.800
+And so they tried to use gene therapy as the first gene therapy in America.
+
+32:53.800 --> 32:56.800
+They tried to use gene therapy on his liver to fix him.
+
+32:56.800 --> 33:00.800
+And for a while, it seemed like it was working like three weeks or something like that.
+
+33:00.800 --> 33:11.800
+And then he died, and you can see that November 28, 1999, first in a series of articles by the same reporter was written about the biotech death of Jesse Gelsinger.
+
+33:11.800 --> 33:20.800
+And so I just want to read this one segment from one of the articles that came out during this time.
+
+33:20.800 --> 33:29.800
+Mark Bradshaw, a pediatrician of great stature, was, according to the New York Times report on Jesse's death, the scientist's hard hit by the tragedy.
+
+33:29.800 --> 33:34.800
+The paper quoted him as saying that he had never before Jesse made a patient worse by his care.
+
+33:34.800 --> 33:40.800
+The paper states that he prayed for the dead boy and that he thought hard about the Hippocratic oath.
+
+33:40.800 --> 33:42.800
+I did harm, Badshaw said.
+
+33:42.800 --> 33:55.800
+Dr. Steve Raper, the driven scientist who has thrown himself into his work and committed himself to finding the treatment that the experiment was intended to find so that the loss of life would not be in vain, according to the Times.
+
+33:55.800 --> 34:00.800
+As he pronounced Jesse Gelsinger dead, he said goodbye, Jesse, we'll figure this out.
+
+34:01.800 --> 34:12.800
+Later, he pondered on whether the vector had reacted badly with Jesse's medication or whether the reactions in the rhesus monkeys, presumably the trials, had meant more than he realized.
+
+34:12.800 --> 34:19.800
+As it happens, I'm wondering about the same things and experts on the matter from elsewhere are discussing the matter publicly.
+
+34:19.800 --> 34:32.800
+For example, geneticist Robert Malone of the University of Maryland told the enquirer that there was adequate literature to show that the adenovirus was a problem, even from animal studies in Wilson's own lab.
+
+34:32.800 --> 34:36.800
+The writing was on the wall for five years.
+
+34:36.800 --> 34:44.800
+So in case you thought that Robert Malone was a horse farmer that just decided to come back and claim his patents, let me assure you that that's not the case.
+
+34:44.800 --> 34:59.800
+In fact, he tells the story multiple times that this speaking out about the adenovirus dosage change being the reason why Jesse Gelsinger died ended up burning his academic career that resulted in him getting a faculty position at a U.S.
+
+34:59.800 --> 35:03.800
+Army Hospital or Army University or health.
+
+35:03.800 --> 35:12.800
+I don't know exactly what that was, but he moved to a different university that was now even more related to the government and the military after this speaking out.
+
+35:12.800 --> 35:24.800
+And there were three articles written by this lady Cheryl Gray Stolberg, only one of which I think quotes Robert Malone, but it's possible that he helped her with all three of those.
+
+35:24.800 --> 35:35.800
+And if you think that this is something that he's trying to forget, I mean, he even used this as an argument about why the adenovirus vaccines for COVID were causing people to die.
+
+35:35.800 --> 35:44.800
+And in fact, that was in October 7th of 2021, keeping in mind that he came out first on the Brett Weinstein show in June of 2021.
+
+35:44.800 --> 35:59.800
+And so June, July, August, September, October, five months later, he's now saying that the adenovirus gene delivery system has its own adverse events issues separating it from mRNA.
+
+35:59.800 --> 36:17.800
+And so why is this important? I think this is important because Scott Gottlieb started already in 2021 to plug nature papers about the fact that lipid nanoparticles for mRNA delivery are a natural evolution of the parallel nature of these two research lines.
+
+36:18.800 --> 36:26.800
+Even as we've discovered what RNA does, we've been working at trying to get and control it with lipid nanoparticles.
+
+36:26.800 --> 36:33.800
+I think this is a very disingenuous representation of these two intellectual pursuits.
+
+36:33.800 --> 36:46.800
+I think we've been interested in how the genome is translated to proteins and how that whole thing orchestrates the pattern integrity that we are separately from how do we mess with it and how do we put things in places in the body that we want,
+
+36:46.800 --> 36:53.800
+which is really what lipid nanoparticles are. But again, okay, it's funny because this is what they want to say.
+
+36:53.800 --> 37:08.800
+This is funny because they're so obvious in their ridiculous statements to say that these two were related to one another or that some one beget the other to make cartoons in that article which seem to imply that they can put it in the dermis.
+
+37:08.800 --> 37:15.800
+They can put it subcutaneously or they can put it intramuscularly and it will stay there.
+
+37:15.800 --> 37:21.800
+Of course, why is this comical?
+
+37:21.800 --> 37:26.800
+Can you hear that clapping? Can anybody confirm? Can you hear that clapping that just came up?
+
+37:26.800 --> 37:34.800
+No, you couldn't hear it. I couldn't hear it. I'm going to change the sound on mine. I think I need to change the sound on mine.
+
+37:35.800 --> 37:42.800
+How do I change the sound? Darn it.
+
+37:42.800 --> 37:48.800
+Not video settings, audio settings. I'm sorry, let me just do this quick because it'll help.
+
+37:48.800 --> 37:59.800
+Audio settings, personalized audio isolation, zoom background maneuver off.
+
+37:59.800 --> 38:01.800
+I think this one.
+
+38:01.800 --> 38:05.800
+Now, let me try that again. Can you hear this?
+
+38:05.800 --> 38:07.800
+Thanks, Peter. Can you hear that?
+
+38:07.800 --> 38:10.800
+I'm going to say the video. I hear the channel video.
+
+38:10.800 --> 38:12.800
+Can you hear the video?
+
+38:12.800 --> 38:13.800
+Try it again.
+
+38:13.800 --> 38:16.800
+Yeah. That was a fantastic talk and if there's anybody who has any questions.
+
+38:16.800 --> 38:17.800
+Yes, we can.
+
+38:17.800 --> 38:23.800
+Okay, great. So, what this talk is, shoot. What this talk is is Peter Cullis.
+
+38:23.800 --> 38:28.800
+Peter Cullis is the guy who could have gotten the Nobel Prize with Weisman and Caracol
+
+38:28.800 --> 38:34.800
+because he's the guy who spent his entire career developing the Lipid nanoparticle that was ultimately used.
+
+38:34.800 --> 38:42.800
+His technology is a cutest, I believe, the name of the company. Correct me if I'm wrong.
+
+38:42.800 --> 38:51.800
+Anyway, the point is that in 2022 he was doing a tour around Canada because they have this pre-noble price called the Gardier.
+
+38:51.800 --> 38:57.800
+I'm saying it wrong and I apologize. It looks like Gardener, but with an eye somewhere in there.
+
+38:57.800 --> 39:05.800
+And it's like a pre-noble price. So, he was going around at universities giving talks about how great everything was.
+
+39:05.800 --> 39:12.800
+And the whole talk is just so insightful because it's like he's not really living on planet Earth in 2022.
+
+39:12.800 --> 39:19.800
+He's living on planet Earth in 2021, right when the vaccine just came out and they reported 99% efficacy,
+
+39:19.800 --> 39:22.800
+even though it's like an hour, a year and a half later.
+
+39:22.800 --> 39:27.800
+Now, the reason why I'm playing this first part is because he ends his talk with applause
+
+39:27.800 --> 39:31.800
+and then the moderator asks him a question that he gives such a frank answer to.
+
+39:31.800 --> 39:37.800
+And it's a frank answer to this question down here. If you can see my arrow that they can put it in the dermis,
+
+39:37.800 --> 39:41.800
+they can put it subcutaneously, they can put it intramuscularly.
+
+39:41.800 --> 39:42.800
+Now, let's listen.
+
+39:42.800 --> 39:51.800
+Thanks, Peter. That was a fantastic talk. And if there's anybody who has any questions, please raise your hand.
+
+39:51.800 --> 39:57.800
+But maybe I'll start with... So, silencing a protein is one thing, putting one in that's going to be upregulated.
+
+39:57.800 --> 40:02.800
+How do you control that regulation once you... How do you know you don't over-expressing a protein?
+
+40:02.800 --> 40:04.800
+Have you even thought of that?
+
+40:04.800 --> 40:08.800
+Yeah. I mean, one of the things about this approach, of course, is titratable.
+
+40:08.800 --> 40:15.800
+So, you can start low and work it up. The other is that it's not like you're inducing production of a protein forever.
+
+40:15.800 --> 40:18.800
+You know, you're going to get it going from maybe a week or two.
+
+40:18.800 --> 40:22.800
+But that's about it. And so, it's self-limiting in that extent, too.
+
+40:22.800 --> 40:28.800
+So, if you're causing nasty side effects, then, okay, stop giving it and then other things will...
+
+40:28.800 --> 40:32.800
+So, that would be my next question. How often do you think you'd have to give something if you were dosing?
+
+40:32.800 --> 40:37.800
+It depends on the length of time you want and also...
+
+40:41.800 --> 40:42.800
+Sorry about that.
+
+40:42.800 --> 40:47.800
+I want to make sure that you understand first what he said there.
+
+40:47.800 --> 40:52.800
+So, he said that, well, you can just stop giving it and then everything will go back to normal.
+
+40:52.800 --> 40:59.800
+So, in some applications, according to this guy, the inventor of it, in some applications, you can give it to people.
+
+40:59.800 --> 41:04.800
+And when the mRNA goes away and the protein production stops, everything's just over.
+
+41:04.800 --> 41:14.800
+But in other instances, when you want to vaccinate somebody, then the immune system memorizes that protein only in a few days and makes permanent memory to it.
+
+41:14.800 --> 41:23.800
+I want you to see how incredible it is that he just gave a lecture accepting kudos for inventing this wonderful technology.
+
+41:23.800 --> 41:30.800
+And now he's explaining explicitly how literally understands the difference between these two biologically different scenarios,
+
+41:30.800 --> 41:38.800
+where we're talking about up-regulating a protein or expressing a protein in the sense of rescue versus vaccinating somebody.
+
+41:38.800 --> 41:43.800
+And in one sense, if you're causing adverse events, you can just stop giving it and then everything will go back to normal.
+
+41:43.800 --> 41:50.800
+In another sense, well, you give it two in one time and the immune system remembers it for, I mean, come on.
+
+41:50.800 --> 41:53.800
+So, it gets worse. You're not going to believe it.
+
+41:53.800 --> 42:02.800
+This is really a person who is considered by the people who buy this narrative, one of the heroes, the one of the hero biologists.
+
+42:02.800 --> 42:07.800
+You know, you're going to get it going from maybe a week or two, but that's about it.
+
+42:07.800 --> 42:10.800
+And so, it's self-limiting in that extent, too.
+
+42:10.800 --> 42:15.800
+So, if you're causing nasty side effects, then, okay, stop giving it and then other things will.
+
+42:15.800 --> 42:16.800
+So, that would be normal.
+
+42:16.800 --> 42:17.800
+So, that would be normal.
+
+42:17.800 --> 42:20.800
+My next question, how often do you think you'd have to give something if you were dosing?
+
+42:20.800 --> 42:26.800
+It depends on the length of time that you want and also the stability of the protein that you're producing.
+
+42:26.800 --> 42:32.800
+Like antibodies, we can make those in the liver, say, if you put the heavy-like gene mRNA in,
+
+42:32.800 --> 42:36.800
+and they'll circulate around for, say, a week or so, because they're very stable.
+
+42:36.800 --> 42:40.800
+Other molecules, you know, might be, you know, a matter of an hour or so.
+
+42:40.800 --> 42:49.800
+So, it's going to, this area is where you're going to see improvements in the thought and technology itself.
+
+42:49.800 --> 42:52.800
+You know, more of a depot effect to have things play out over a longer time.
+
+42:52.800 --> 42:53.800
+A depot effect.
+
+42:53.800 --> 42:56.800
+As long as they go and they raise in which we can manipulate things.
+
+42:56.800 --> 43:00.800
+And in your delivery system, do you think there's going to be a way to actually target it to different tissues?
+
+43:00.800 --> 43:06.800
+So, right now, you've been talking about getting it into the liver, but how do you, can we actually restrict which tissues?
+
+43:06.800 --> 43:07.800
+It's going to be tricky, too.
+
+43:07.800 --> 43:08.800
+That's going to be tricky.
+
+43:08.800 --> 43:13.800
+I mean, people have been trying to target these lipid, or any nanomedicine,
+
+43:13.800 --> 43:18.800
+and actually more specifically to where you want it from than to cancer cells and some obvious choice
+
+43:18.800 --> 43:21.800
+without any success over 40 years of trying, right?
+
+43:21.800 --> 43:24.800
+So, on that put points out how difficult it is.
+
+43:24.800 --> 43:27.800
+You tend to raise an immune response, or anything put on the outside,
+
+43:27.800 --> 43:31.800
+and you get aggregation, they're difficult demanding, but this goes on and on.
+
+43:31.800 --> 43:34.800
+I've worn out five graduate students on that project.
+
+43:34.800 --> 43:37.800
+The last one refused to go on.
+
+43:37.800 --> 43:39.800
+If I, unless I change your projects, okay, I do that.
+
+43:39.800 --> 43:45.800
+So, he burnt out five grad students trying to target these lipid nanoparticles to some place in the body,
+
+43:45.800 --> 43:51.800
+and the fifth one said that she didn't, he didn't allow her to change her topic, she would quit.
+
+43:51.800 --> 43:59.800
+But the whole principle of transfection as vaccination is, is that it stays in your arm and that actually,
+
+43:59.800 --> 44:05.800
+that somehow antigen-presenting cells are the only ones that are transfected meaningfully.
+
+44:05.800 --> 44:12.800
+And that somehow, transfection of antigen-presenting cells is a way of getting antigen-presenting cells
+
+44:12.800 --> 44:18.800
+to present the antigen, which I'm not really sure has been shown.
+
+44:18.800 --> 44:23.800
+So, I'm going to let this go because I really think you need to hear the whole statement.
+
+44:24.800 --> 44:28.800
+But it points to, but there are other ways to go.
+
+44:28.800 --> 44:33.800
+You know, for the microbiology, you can start to say, okay, I want to express in a particular cell.
+
+44:33.800 --> 44:38.800
+That's, that requires pretty sophisticated microbiology, but I think it's doable.
+
+44:38.800 --> 44:39.800
+The other approach.
+
+44:39.800 --> 44:44.800
+It requires very sophisticated molecular biology in order to get it to express in particular tissues,
+
+44:44.800 --> 44:51.800
+and that's interesting because I have a maybe 10-year record of, of expression,
+
+44:51.800 --> 44:58.800
+actually, transfection in particular cell types in the brain based on what genes those cells express
+
+44:58.800 --> 45:01.800
+after the brain is fully formed.
+
+45:01.800 --> 45:09.800
+And so, I know exactly how it can be done, but I know for sure it's not a great way to augment anything in a healthy animal,
+
+45:09.800 --> 45:13.800
+never mind a healthy human, never mind a healthy child.
+
+45:14.800 --> 45:23.800
+And so, how can we so lacks to basically be talking about this in the middle of 2022 and the acceptance of kudos of an award
+
+45:23.800 --> 45:32.800
+and not realize the gigantic cruise ship-sized contradiction in the biological assumptions that he's making versus
+
+45:32.800 --> 45:37.800
+that we're making versus the biological limitations that he's describing here.
+
+45:38.800 --> 45:43.800
+And so, the question is, how many of these people know?
+
+45:43.800 --> 45:52.800
+How many of these people have really tried to tell us this, like Byron Brittle did in 2020 when he found the Japanese things?
+
+45:52.800 --> 46:01.800
+How many people on that last screen have been saying that transfection in its purest form is wholly inappropriate for healthy humans?
+
+46:01.800 --> 46:10.800
+I don't know how many, but not very many, and everybody should be saying that because transfection in its purest form
+
+46:10.800 --> 46:20.800
+with no impurities, no contamination, no adulteration, exactly what you want, still can't target it.
+
+46:20.800 --> 46:24.800
+You still can't keep it anywhere. It still randomly distributes.
+
+46:24.800 --> 46:29.800
+It still is wholly inappropriate for healthy humans.
+
+46:30.800 --> 46:38.800
+Upscaling from nanograms to kilograms, which was what was required to go from the trials to mass rollout,
+
+46:38.800 --> 46:42.800
+was predicted to be a huge source of problems back in 2020.
+
+46:42.800 --> 46:47.800
+By people like Mike Eden and across the board, everybody knew this was crazy, even.
+
+46:47.800 --> 46:55.800
+The people on this week in virology laughed about how spectacular it was that they were going from nanograms on the lab bench
+
+46:55.800 --> 46:59.800
+to kilograms in a vat.
+
+46:59.800 --> 47:04.800
+And so when we saw the paperwork that was submitted, whatever limited paperwork was submitted,
+
+47:04.800 --> 47:09.800
+we saw that the mRNA was impure. The modified RNA was impure. It wasn't one band.
+
+47:09.800 --> 47:19.800
+It was a smear, which meant we had infinite quantity of fragments that may or may not have anything to do with the original transcript of the spike.
+
+47:19.800 --> 47:32.800
+And fragmented RNA that has overlap with our own RNA could have consequences. We don't know interference, modulatory RNAs.
+
+47:32.800 --> 47:38.800
+We don't know any of what can happen with that smear of RNA, but we know that whatever it was making, it was making protein fragments
+
+47:38.800 --> 47:46.800
+in addition to whatever spike protein it was making because the spike protein that they made was not using the same sequence
+
+47:46.800 --> 47:52.800
+that was found in the virus that they reported. It was codon optimized for maximum protein production,
+
+47:52.800 --> 47:58.800
+and that codon optimization necessarily changes the protein that comes out because we know that.
+
+47:58.800 --> 48:06.800
+A lot of the genetic disorders that we understand are actually silent mutations in the protein.
+
+48:06.800 --> 48:12.800
+There are changes that appear to be synonymous, meaning they shouldn't change the amino acid that's coded,
+
+48:12.800 --> 48:19.800
+but it changes the way that the structure of the protein manifests as it gets translated by the RNA or by the ribosome.
+
+48:19.800 --> 48:23.800
+The tertiary structure of the protein is changed.
+
+48:23.800 --> 48:29.800
+And so whatever protein is being produced by the Pfizer and by the Moderna is different than each other,
+
+48:29.800 --> 48:37.800
+and the protein that is produced by the virus, supposedly that sequence, if it produces that spike.
+
+48:37.800 --> 48:44.800
+The chemically altering of it, it depends on whether you're talking about pseudoridine or N1 methyl pseudoridine.
+
+48:44.800 --> 48:50.800
+It can be more premature stops. It can be more wobble-basing, meaning that it can be kind of a wild card.
+
+48:50.800 --> 48:56.800
+And so again, you're adding to the variability of the antigenic stimulation of the immune system.
+
+48:56.800 --> 49:04.800
+If that's all that this transfection did in its purist form, it would still be doing a bouquet of unknown things.
+
+49:05.800 --> 49:10.800
+And the protein produced then becomes uncharacterized, highly variable, essentially a prodrug.
+
+49:12.800 --> 49:15.800
+So even in its purist form, we can argue against it wholly.
+
+49:15.800 --> 49:21.800
+We can make it completely criminally negligent to use this in healthy humans.
+
+49:23.800 --> 49:25.800
+The LNP, we're just there now.
+
+49:25.800 --> 49:31.800
+We just heard the inventor of the LNP say that he burnt four postdocs on this.
+
+49:32.800 --> 49:35.800
+It's going to be another 40 years before they can usefully target it anywhere.
+
+49:35.800 --> 49:41.800
+So what are we doing when we say we're augmenting the immune system with transfection?
+
+49:41.800 --> 49:44.800
+Now we hear stories about process two.
+
+49:44.800 --> 49:53.800
+In process one, they printed everything with the latest technologies in DNA and RNA chemical transcription.
+
+49:53.800 --> 49:58.800
+But here in process two, they used bacteria vats, and so they had to clean the bacteria out.
+
+49:58.800 --> 50:02.800
+They had to clean all of this biological material out from these reactors.
+
+50:02.800 --> 50:07.800
+And they already know how to do it with proteins, but you can't do it like that with nucleic acids.
+
+50:07.800 --> 50:12.800
+And so they had this huge problem that they absolutely, positively new existed.
+
+50:12.800 --> 50:17.800
+Why? Because every single protein, biologic, monoclonal antibody, you name it.
+
+50:17.800 --> 50:23.800
+Any protein that's produced as a biologic must be free of nucleic acids.
+
+50:23.800 --> 50:27.800
+It's one of the reasons why monoclonal antibody production is so expensive because they must use
+
+50:27.800 --> 50:33.800
+an ion exchange chromatography to remove all the nucleic acids, all the material from the manufacturer.
+
+50:33.800 --> 50:38.800
+And if they don't do it and they don't pass, it's like a half a million dollars again to run that batch.
+
+50:38.800 --> 50:42.800
+So sometimes it's cheaper to just throw it away.
+
+50:42.800 --> 50:49.800
+And all of these people have been doing this for years, for 20 years, know that when they make nucleic acids, they can't do that.
+
+50:49.800 --> 50:55.800
+So they knew there was going to be all kinds of crap in there.
+
+50:55.800 --> 50:58.800
+And so yeah, there are DNA, double-stranded DNA fragments.
+
+50:58.800 --> 51:10.800
+But again, even if those weren't in there, this would still be a problem because of all the wrong aspects of trying to augment the immune system with transfection.
+
+51:10.800 --> 51:17.800
+And I want you to recall, please recall, that for almost a year, you and I and all of us in the background in the...
+
+51:17.800 --> 51:25.800
+that really thought we knew what we were doing were exclusively focused on the biological properties of the spike.
+
+51:25.800 --> 51:32.800
+Now suddenly it's the DNA in the shot that matters. It's not the toxic spike that we've transfected everybody with.
+
+51:32.800 --> 51:37.800
+That wasn't already a good enough story. This isn't already a good enough story.
+
+51:37.800 --> 51:46.800
+All this list is just forgotten now, the fact that the codon optimization changes the G quadriplex structure of the mRNA.
+
+51:46.800 --> 51:49.800
+That's just gone now. We don't need to worry about that anymore.
+
+51:49.800 --> 51:52.800
+Protein folding, no big deal.
+
+51:52.800 --> 51:59.800
+The fact that epitopes are three-dimensional electrostatic shapes that the immune system zeros in on.
+
+51:59.800 --> 52:05.800
+They're not parts of a linear structure. They're parts of a three-dimensional structure.
+
+52:06.800 --> 52:08.800
+This is the problem.
+
+52:08.800 --> 52:09.800
+Questions from the audience.
+
+52:09.800 --> 52:10.800
+I want you to listen.
+
+52:10.800 --> 52:12.800
+Question here and then the question way at the back and up there.
+
+52:12.800 --> 52:14.800
+You're simply not going to believe it.
+
+52:14.800 --> 52:16.800
+Up there, so please loudly.
+
+52:18.800 --> 52:22.800
+So first of all, understand that you're not going to be able to hear all the questions, but that's okay.
+
+52:22.800 --> 52:26.800
+I will try to say what they say. It's only like eight minutes and then I'm done talking.
+
+52:26.800 --> 52:34.800
+But this is really important because in this question and answer session, he's asked fairly awkward questions that he summarizes a little bit
+
+52:34.800 --> 52:39.800
+and then gives the most insightful answers you can possibly imagine.
+
+52:39.800 --> 52:41.800
+It shows you exactly what we're dealing with.
+
+52:41.800 --> 52:53.800
+This is the guy who drank scotch when he found out that the effective rate of this vaccine in 2021 was purported to be 95% or in 2020.
+
+52:53.800 --> 53:02.800
+And now two and a half years later, in 2022, he's accepting the kudos and he's going to speak out loud.
+
+53:03.800 --> 53:12.800
+Contradictory statements in biology, things that should be like, you know, his whole brain should be going and it's not reacting at all.
+
+53:12.800 --> 53:15.800
+So listen carefully.
+
+53:15.800 --> 53:22.800
+I mean, it's sort of alluded to that a little bit, but with mRNA, our delivery is obviously a kind of a little bit of expression.
+
+53:22.800 --> 53:27.800
+So that works well for an acute disease or a vaccine.
+
+53:27.800 --> 53:34.800
+But any work on the male delivery system says it's going to come back and withdraw the case.
+
+53:34.800 --> 53:41.800
+So the question is, is that it works great for vaccines because it's such a short expression.
+
+53:41.800 --> 53:47.800
+But have you tried and found out how to use this to replace enzyme?
+
+53:47.800 --> 53:50.800
+So he's basically asking the Jesse Gelsinger question right now.
+
+53:50.800 --> 53:54.800
+And so that's the first question that that Colis is going to answer.
+
+53:54.800 --> 53:57.800
+Listen carefully.
+
+54:01.800 --> 54:04.800
+We worked on it without any success.
+
+54:04.800 --> 54:07.800
+I mean, it's commonly used in cell culture.
+
+54:07.800 --> 54:11.800
+Absolutely. I mean, in cell culture, you've got rapidly dividing cells.
+
+54:11.800 --> 54:17.800
+He said it's got to be useful in cell culture for transfection is what the questioner said.
+
+54:17.800 --> 54:22.800
+No, he's going to keep answering. At some point, we're going to actually get Peter to say transfection out loud.
+
+54:22.800 --> 54:33.800
+You know, so that the problem is that for cells that are not rapidly dividing, and so therefore the nucleus isn't, you know, you can't get things into the nucleus readily, then these systems don't work.
+
+54:34.800 --> 54:39.800
+And so that's a, which is, you know, we certainly haven't beaten that.
+
+54:39.800 --> 54:56.800
+No, I'm sure there are some people whose bells are going off when he says that when the cells aren't dividing, it's hard to get the delivery to happen into the nucleus, which makes the DNA construct containing SV40 as a nuclear relocation sequence or whatever they call it.
+
+54:56.800 --> 55:05.800
+It is a sequence that has been used in cell culture molecular biology to assure that a particular plasmid gets transferred to the nucleus.
+
+55:05.800 --> 55:25.800
+So it's not entirely crazy for people to be saying that the addition of that potential circular DNA or that transcript might be dangerous, and it is dubious that this guy just happens to mention that one of the problems with my technique is that I can't force things into the nucleus
+
+55:25.800 --> 55:31.800
+because, you know, that's not really how lipid nanoparticles work. It's an interesting admission.
+
+55:31.800 --> 55:35.800
+JJ, the volume of your voice has gone down, at least.
+
+55:35.800 --> 55:38.800
+There's other barriers to get through for sure.
+
+55:38.800 --> 55:49.800
+Yeah, yeah, and there's no doubt we can get DNA into the cytoplasm the same way that we can.
+
+55:49.800 --> 55:59.800
+We are a messenger RNA, but to get it into the nucleus, we have these for non-dividing cells. We haven't achieved that.
+
+55:59.800 --> 56:01.800
+Next question.
+
+56:01.800 --> 56:12.800
+Are there any plans to make different more complex lipid nanoparticles with different combination of phospholipids?
+
+56:12.800 --> 56:17.800
+We've already seen talks about that, and actually in his talk in this talk itself, he said that.
+
+56:17.800 --> 56:21.800
+It's kind of an off-topic kind of question, but I'll let it run.
+
+56:21.800 --> 56:24.800
+Can you explain why it's like functional, but like brain protection?
+
+56:24.800 --> 56:28.800
+Oh, yeah. I know we're fiddling around with every possible...
+
+56:28.800 --> 56:42.800
+Well, we really haven't figured out. I mean, it's coming to light now a little bit, but are the structure activity relationships between the structure of the lipid nanoparticle and the actual activity in vitro and in vivo.
+
+56:42.800 --> 56:52.800
+Yeah, so those things are just starting to become elucidated. It's quite remarkably. You have a very successful medicine, and we still don't understand some of the basics of how it actually works.
+
+56:52.800 --> 56:55.800
+But, you know, those things are becoming pure.
+
+56:55.800 --> 57:01.800
+I mean, there's the mythology right there. We have a highly successful medicine, but it's crazy. We still don't really know how it works.
+
+57:01.800 --> 57:06.800
+You don't even know if it works, then if you don't have a plausible mechanism, when did this ever happen?
+
+57:06.800 --> 57:14.800
+That we can have a biological explanation with no plausible mechanism. It's just absurdity.
+
+57:14.800 --> 57:20.800
+And a lot of it has to do with manipulating the various components that we have in there.
+
+57:20.800 --> 57:30.800
+Yeah, that's what it's all about. In case some of you have to say, for example, with you have to say, do you think it's about singing?
+
+57:30.800 --> 57:42.800
+So he's asking if people have to take lots of vaccines and he's listing a lot of vaccines. I think he's going to ask them whether or not the reaction.
+
+57:42.800 --> 57:49.800
+If the immune system will build up tolerance to the lipid nanoparticle or whether it will build a hypersensitivity to it. Hold on.
+
+57:50.800 --> 57:55.800
+Possibly all that kind of vaccine that I think is part of it.
+
+57:55.800 --> 58:07.800
+So, ideally, we talk to the amount of people in a particle, somebody taking any time, or can this, or this vaccine go to work?
+
+58:07.800 --> 58:13.800
+I mean, are you asking whether you can use the same lipid nanoparticle for all those different vaccines?
+
+58:13.800 --> 58:27.800
+So, this is such a long question.
+
+58:27.800 --> 58:37.800
+It looks like you can use the same lipid nanoparticle to deliver whatever mRNA for a vaccine, and then it works just fine.
+
+58:37.800 --> 58:42.800
+It looks like it. It looks like it works just fine. They have not tested it.
+
+58:42.800 --> 58:49.800
+Understand that. This is a giant assumption because they're lipids. It's just fat.
+
+58:49.800 --> 58:55.800
+And that's a disingenuous assumption, but that's the assumption that he's working on, but this is a guy. This is the guy.
+
+58:55.800 --> 59:06.800
+So, all the bureaucrats in the secret meetings, all the bureaucrats in the government meetings, all the CDC, all these people are working under the assumption that these experts know what they're talking about.
+
+59:07.800 --> 59:24.800
+So, this is where the lipid nanoparticle that's been used for, say, the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is going to find that exact same lipid nanoparticle is going to find a lot of application for other vaccines, particularly now it's been tested in 3 billion people.
+
+59:24.800 --> 59:41.800
+So, now that it's been tested in 3 billion people, here's this guy reinforcing this narrative that somehow or another, we have proof behind us in the rearview mirror that lipid nanoparticles and the carrying of mRNA is no big deal.
+
+59:42.800 --> 59:48.800
+Now, I could let this go on, but I think I've gone on too long. He says even more absurd things. You can find that on YouTube.
+
+59:48.800 --> 59:59.800
+The point I'm trying to make now is that this was a plan all along to get us to accept that this incremental rollout of genetic technologies is going to be okay.
+
+01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:11.800
+CRISPR sounds really scary. They can't possibly be doing that or any. Oh, yes, they are. They're running a trial where they give African Americans with sickle cell anemia or sickle cell disease.
+
+01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:18.800
+They give them a month long chemotherapy treatment to absolutely ablate all of their immune cells in their bone marrow.
+
+01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:28.800
+And at the same time, they took the cells out of their bone marrow and CRISPR cast 9 of them and edited them so that they would express a fetal version of hemoglobin.
+
+01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:33.800
+And then after that chemotherapy, they throw it back into the patients.
+
+01:00:33.800 --> 01:00:43.800
+Now, that's not mRNA, but this is a new, super precise gene editing approach switches off a gene in the liver that regulates bad cholesterol.
+
+01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:54.800
+Now they're going to replace statins with an mRNA that carries CRISPR cast 9 editing enzymes to make cholesterol go down in humans.
+
+01:00:54.800 --> 01:01:00.800
+Because what Peter Cullis just said that mRNA and lipid nanoparticles is totally fine.
+
+01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:08.800
+And Robert Malone and the J&J shots prove that adenovirus, maybe that's a little sketchy.
+
+01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:14.800
+Maybe that's a little sketchy, but mRNAs work great.
+
+01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:23.800
+And there's the New York Times saying that a nice picture of how sickle cell patients should just start taking the stuff.
+
+01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:27.800
+So this is an illusion of consensus that they've trapped us in.
+
+01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:38.800
+It's an illusion of consensus about a faith in a novel virus, and you can dispel this faith by understanding that there has to be a background signal there, and we have no data about it.
+
+01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:43.800
+There are no PCR tests from 2019. There are no sequences from 2019.
+
+01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:46.800
+There's no monitoring for it.
+
+01:01:47.800 --> 01:02:01.800
+And so they have no data to establish the fact that something started in 2019 and spread around the world, from a little tiny puddle of RNA to a blanket covering millions and millions of humans.
+
+01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:09.800
+Think about the absurdity of that, and understand that these people are not saying that the protocols were murder, and we have to count those deaths first.
+
+01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:25.800
+Those people are not saying that transfection is not medicine, and those people are not addressing the PCR fraud, the death certificate fraud, the idea that an RNA molecule that spills on the floor in a wet market can then replicate itself with high fidelity for three and a half years to code a planet.
+
+01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:38.800
+The idea that we understand protein folding sufficiently enough to code on, optimize a protein, and then transfect it in you, the idea that we can use transfection, do anything useful except for somebody that might die anyway, is ridiculous.
+
+01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:49.800
+And the fact that no one, absolutely no one, has taken the time to teach us about natural immunity except for a handful of people, I would like to wave my hand humbly as one of those people who's done it often.
+
+01:02:50.800 --> 01:03:04.800
+These are the three things I want to leave you with, intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb transfection and healthy animals is criminally negligent, and viruses are not patterned integrity is please let's discuss
+
+01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:16.800
+why they might be doing this, and yeah I don't know stop transfection in humans it's the same message I always end with, because they're trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary you can find me here.
+
+01:03:16.800 --> 01:03:25.800
+But this is not I don't want to plug myself so I'm gonna get that off the screen and change back to this and answer questions if I can.
+
+01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:26.800
+Thank you.
+
+01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:31.800
+Well, well well well JJ, thank you.
+
+01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:44.800
+Thank you thank you as amazing, amazing presentation plus on top of that the technology that you use I think it's a lesson for all of us in terms of sharing ideas on a scream.
+
+01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:54.800
+Stephen goes for the next 15 minutes I want to just while the Stevens getting his thoughts together.
+
+01:03:54.800 --> 01:03:59.800
+I want to raise with you all that the fraud.
+
+01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:10.800
+The the game plan is continuing in yesterday's Wednesday's Australia newspaper Australia's national paper.
+
+01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:22.800
+A news corporation Rupert Murdoch publication that when he announced his retirement impairment he said I've always been into truth and sharing the truth.
+
+01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:27.800
+So here's a half page that's a broad sheet as you can see big article.
+
+01:04:27.800 --> 01:04:40.800
+All right and page page six COVID VEX alarm over vulnerable aged care like if I read this to you this would make you all vomit.
+
+01:04:41.800 --> 01:04:49.800
+Some some dude called Muhammad al far is put a complaint into the press council about the nonsensical claims in this article.
+
+01:04:49.800 --> 01:05:02.800
+But JJ this is Australia you know and let's get let's put more of these in and by the way the TGA still hasn't approved this latest booster but they're still the epidemiologists are coming as a we need to worry about the elderly.
+
+01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:09.800
+We need to jab them everybody not enough elderly are dying so sorry we've got to protect the elderly from dying.
+
+01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:12.800
+Alive and well.
+
+01:05:12.800 --> 01:05:15.800
+Stephen over to you.
+
+01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:24.800
+Um yeah am I no I'm not muted brilliant so um thank you Charles Charles you've got the big screen I don't know why.
+
+01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:27.800
+So for me you're you're on there.
+
+01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:29.800
+I don't know.
+
+01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:33.800
+Go to the top right corner go to view and go to gallery.
+
+01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:34.800
+Yes okay.
+
+01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:36.800
+But strangely.
+
+01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:39.800
+Okay gallery yeah.
+
+01:05:39.800 --> 01:05:54.800
+So just on that sir Charles what you held up that headline so they were saying all along you know the these the vulnerable people must go along and get their vaccinations and I was thinking as a doctor and thinking all the other doctors were thinking exactly the same as me.
+
+01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:57.800
+If they're vulnerable.
+
+01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:10.800
+They're going to be tipped over into death more easily than those who are not vulnerable so they're the very last people you should inject with experimental substances.
+
+01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:14.800
+So JJ what do you have you got any comments on that maybe not.
+
+01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:19.800
+Yeah I mean I like I said if they're healthy old people they don't need to be transferred.
+
+01:06:19.800 --> 01:06:20.800
+Oh sorry.
+
+01:06:21.800 --> 01:06:37.800
+Um as I said I think that's why I'm choosing those words because a lot of these old people were healthy and had no risk relative to transfection which has this, you know, undescribed bouquet of risks that I've tried to summarize in that list at the end.
+
+01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:38.800
+Sure.
+
+01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:48.800
+So they were trying to make out that they would be so when they discovered that it was possibly a problem you know with these so called vaccinations Denmark for example.
+
+01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:58.800
+Said oh well nobody above and nobody below a certain age you know and they kept and it was in different countries the same very thing was happening.
+
+01:06:58.800 --> 01:07:06.800
+They said but the elderly need these vaccine they must have them that the vulnerable and the elder you know the very people I was thinking.
+
+01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:19.800
+Well hang on a minute am I the only doctor in the world who who was not thinking who was thinking that these are the very people who should not be injected with an experimental substance.
+
+01:07:19.800 --> 01:07:23.800
+And that brings me to my next question.
+
+01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:34.800
+I would really like to know what do you know is in these injections and I'm not talking about some of the injections all the injections around the world.
+
+01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:36.800
+And how do you know it.
+
+01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:43.800
+I just want to go back to the first principle so if we're in an illusion how far does the illusion stretch.
+
+01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:55.800
+So you're talking about all these things that are in the injections how do you know what what you can talk about the lipid nanoparticles how do we know what is in any of these injections.
+
+01:07:55.800 --> 01:08:05.800
+I think a really good answer to that would be that I'm working under the assumption that they definitely want to be able to edit.
+
+01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:17.800
+The genome they want to be able to manipulate the immune system they want to learn how to use MRNA's they want to learn how to use retroviruses.
+
+01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:29.800
+And the reason why I feel pretty confident when I say that not all of that is imaginary is because I was able four years to order a small tube of material.
+
+01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:45.800
+That if I applied it correctly inside of the brain of a living mouse that the targets that I wanted to change color and also control with blue light in real time.
+
+01:08:46.800 --> 01:09:03.800
+These were controlled manipulations that worked in predictable ways now it could be that that the the description on the bottle was a lie and that it was just you know I don't know I'm trying to come up with something that does the same thing but it's not DNA carried by
+
+01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:15.800
+a particle adenovirus but I was buying adenovirus 25 with DNA which encoded an algal protein in it and that's what they said on the label.
+
+01:09:15.800 --> 01:09:24.800
+And when I use that in my mice the neurons that express that gene would change electrophysiologically when I shine blue light on them with a laser.
+
+01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:33.800
+So is this is this then evidence that adenovirus can be used in a transfection or transformation sort of way.
+
+01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:40.800
+It's hard for me to believe that that's not the case because it works if you use it in mice that are going to die.
+
+01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:49.800
+It works if you're going to use it in a in vitro demonstration of a electrophysiological principle in a neuronal network.
+
+01:09:49.800 --> 01:10:01.800
+But we have known all the while that we're using it that it is a temporary manipulation that ultimately results in the death of that area of the brain or the death of those neurons that are transfected
+
+01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:13.800
+because of course the immune system takes them out and the over expression of that foreign protein is not well regulated and so eventually that over expression kills or is toxic to those neurons.
+
+01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:25.800
+So long story short do I know what they've done to us know but I know in my gut that they have been trying to figure out how to use this technology in humans.
+
+01:10:25.800 --> 01:10:33.800
+And as so many of the people in this narrative have said mice lie monkeys deceive and only way to know what happens in humans is to do it in humans.
+
+01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:46.800
+And so there is an onus that has been behind the scenes, I don't know the right word, there's been an impetus, a desire to get these on the playing field in such a way so that they could be tested.
+
+01:10:46.800 --> 01:10:56.800
+And the limited playing field that they've been able to roll them out on up until this point has been people dying of cancer or people dying of genetic diseases.
+
+01:10:56.800 --> 01:11:05.800
+And that that field of genetic diseases was completely brought to a crashing halt with Jesse Gelsinger and they could never go back to it.
+
+01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:20.800
+So vaccines come become this new opportunity to allow the the experimental use of this stuff under the pretense that exactly what Peter college said we've tested it on five three billion people it's obviously safe.
+
+01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:39.800
+Yes, so just because they there is a motive for them doing what we think they've done and them saying that they've done it doesn't mean to say that they have done it so wouldn't it be far more satisfying for these psychopaths to actually lie about that too and get people to believe
+
+01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:48.800
+that they have tested the M RNA technologies on three billion humans or whatever it is, four point, I don't know what it is now.
+
+01:11:48.800 --> 01:12:00.800
+But anyway, when they haven't done that at all, I'm just wondering, you know, they've lied about everything else since 2020 and maybe a little bit before but not quite as much as far as I can see.
+
+01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:08.800
+Why do we accept anything that they say, because actually they may be maybe leading us down.
+
+01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:12.800
+Well, wasting our time to disable us.
+
+01:12:12.800 --> 01:12:24.800
+Yeah, I mean, I can't I can't come up with off the cuff a good good response to that other than to say that I think it would be to our disadvantage to underestimate them.
+
+01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:34.800
+I think that that saying that they're just all it's just all a theater and they're not doing anything. They're just scaring us his to really grossly underestimate their intentions.
+
+01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:50.800
+Their intentions are that if they can invert our sovereignty to permissions and they can start to harvest genetic and medical data from birth, not from us, but from our kids kids, then they're going to be able to feed in AI and answer these questions of, you know, how does
+
+01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:51.800
+work and how do ribosomes work.
+
+01:12:51.800 --> 01:13:10.800
+But the reason I was asking you, JJ, is that you're very good at going back to basics. So, you know, they might have a plan, which is even more perverse than the plan that we are accepting that they are implementing now, or have done over the last three years or two, whatever it is.
+
+01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:24.800
+Do you see what I mean? It could be a lot worse. And so I've always wondered this. How do we know, you know, people talk about the lipid nanoparticles and the mRNA and the spike protein endlessly particular spike protein.
+
+01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:31.800
+And I just think, well, how do we know that, you know, and when I asked, what was the name now?
+
+01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:35.800
+The lady from Senate. I can't remember a first name.
+
+01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:38.800
+Okay.
+
+01:13:38.800 --> 01:13:49.800
+Yeah, I don't want to misquote her, but I think she said, well, they told us that. And I thought, well, yeah, but they could be lying about that too.
+
+01:13:49.800 --> 01:13:52.800
+I don't trust them. I don't trust any of these people.
+
+01:13:52.800 --> 01:14:01.800
+No, I don't trust my own government and I have good reason not to trust them because I know from personal experience. I really don't trust any of them.
+
+01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:19.800
+I agree. And I think that's one of the reasons why I tried to summarize this, you know, Stephanie Sineff and others have gone from, you know, stage to stage, pushing the mimicry in the spike protein, pushing the toxicity and protein folding problems of the spike protein,
+
+01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:29.800
+pushing the codon optimization of the RNA is causing different G quadriplex structures in the RNA and therefore different translations and different stop possibilities.
+
+01:14:29.800 --> 01:14:40.800
+Then they've also talked about how the pseudo uridine also adds to this thing. And then all of a sudden now there's DNA and all this years of discussion about all these shortcomings of the transpection disappeared.
+
+01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:55.800
+So I have to focus on the DNA adulteration in SV 40. And I think that's a magic trick. I think it's a magic trick that makes you think that makes the TV people think that there was just some adulteration and otherwise this is basically a win, which is what Peter
+
+01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:59.800
+was doing still.
+
+01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:17.800
+Yeah, so I had thought of a question, but now it's gone out of my head completely. I agree with you though, there's this illusion of consensus which they try to push and so we know you and I know that there was no pandemic.
+
+01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:31.800
+There's no such thing as the possibility even of endless deadly viral pandemics which or even pandemics of concern to us in the future so the whole obsession with this is nonsense.
+
+01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:40.800
+And so I wonder how far the lies stretch. I really do because they've lied about so much.
+
+01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:43.800
+I would actually be lying about the.
+
+01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:49.800
+I think they lie the lies stretch back as far as the existence of the FDA.
+
+01:15:49.800 --> 01:16:00.800
+The lies stretch back as far as the AIDS epidemic they stretch back as far as the hepatitis V vaccines they stretch back as far as retro viruses.
+
+01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:10.800
+The stretch back as far as the definition of modern virology as defined by David Baltimore and and gallo and gardener.
+
+01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:27.800
+And I think you can trace it right back to this, this idea of seeding a narrative where, where again viruses are a thing whereas not, not, not studying mRNA and DNA at this size scale.
+
+01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:45.800
+But just insisting that at this size scale, the only thing that exists are pathogenic viruses and that that bait and switch from making an observation at this size scale to attributing it exclusively to pathogenesis is the trick that they pulled with the AIDS vaccine
+
+01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:50.800
+or the AIDS virus going back to gallo and Baltimore, I think.
+
+01:16:50.800 --> 01:17:02.800
+Well, you could argue about AIDS that it was a failure of diagnosis precisely as I claim it was with COVID-19. There was no proper diagnosis of COVID-19 either clinically or by test.
+
+01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:13.800
+I wanted to ask you, JJ, I don't know what your opinion you've talked about a lot of the people on our side, you know, allegedly on our side.
+
+01:17:13.800 --> 01:17:18.800
+I just wondered what you think about David Martin's evidence.
+
+01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:32.800
+And, you know, he talks about bioweapons, so is all the talk about bioweapons also to induce an atmosphere of fear, endless fear, and thereby which they can exploit in future.
+
+01:17:32.800 --> 01:17:45.800
+Yeah, I think that David Martin's a really interesting guy because his stick goes back decades. More than 10 years, he's been on the news talking about patents and biology.
+
+01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:50.800
+And so he's a really interesting guy. A lot of what he says is technically true.
+
+01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:59.800
+But one of the things that he won't discuss, he's even mentioned infectious clones before, but what he won't discuss is this idea of RNA fidelity.
+
+01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:13.800
+So RNA is not a pattern integrity. A pattern integrity is something that takes energy and material in, and it organizes it into the pattern, and then it expels the waste material and wastes energy maintaining the pattern.
+
+01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:32.800
+So that's not what happens with a virus. That's just a lipid protein, a lipoprotein coat around an RNA molecule as we understand it according to their cartoon, which does not endow it with the biology of a pattern integrity.
+
+01:18:32.800 --> 01:18:42.800
+Another name for that would be a real living thing. And so since it's not a really a real living thing, you can't attribute biological attributes to it in the same way that you can attribute it.
+
+01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:53.800
+You can attribute attributes that you learn about squirrel ecology to attributes of perhaps rodent ecology in Africa.
+
+01:18:53.800 --> 01:19:02.800
+You can learn about squirrels in North America and apply a lot of that ecology that you learn to your observations that you observe on another planet.
+
+01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:13.800
+But you can't use the ecology of squirrels and predators of squirrels to make an analogy about how viruses and our own biology interact because it's not a pattern integrity.
+
+01:19:13.800 --> 01:19:24.800
+So I really feel like this is important because what is the question I'm answering again? I'm looking down at my notes and now I got confused. Sorry.
+
+01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:34.800
+Charles, can you remember? I honestly can't remember. But that's really... I'm sorry, JJ, I'm thinking about taking the whole thing after I asked the question.
+
+01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:44.800
+But that's really important to know that a virus invades the cells of a host as a parasite and that even is an analogy that's borrowed from pattern integrity.
+
+01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:56.800
+It's probably not, it's probably not, how do I say it? It's not adequate. It's not appropriate for whatever this cartoon is. It's not appropriate for that.
+
+01:19:56.800 --> 01:20:01.800
+Oh yes, I was asking about David Monson. Yes, that's right. The bio-weapons.
+
+01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:10.800
+That was the reason because that's where I went. So the idea of that he's not going to tell you is that what the significance of infectious clones is.
+
+01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:22.800
+No one's really making this very clear. When you swab the anus of a bat and you put that into a cell culture and the cell culture dies and where that cell culture dies,
+
+01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:37.800
+you take all that material and try to sequence for a coronavirus, looking for a 350 amino acid amplicon that corresponds to every coronavirus we know.
+
+01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:49.800
+The most conserved portion of the RNA-dependent RNA polymerase. And then you make a sequence from that using metagenomics analysis of whatever else is in that sample.
+
+01:20:49.800 --> 01:21:06.800
+And then you create an infectious clone of it in DNA. He's never going to explain to you that using the natural virus that you harvested or detected or sequenced in your cell culture to make a quantity of that virus
+
+01:21:06.800 --> 01:21:21.800
+is physically impossible because the chemical reaction of that RNA that whatever you got out of that bat with that cell culture is necessarily a limited flash in the pan,
+
+01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:27.800
+maybe you get enough signal to do your pan coronavirus test. But that's it.
+
+01:21:27.800 --> 01:21:38.800
+There is no way to make a large quantity, never mind a pure quantity, of anything that they call an RNA genome unless you do it with DNA,
+
+01:21:38.800 --> 01:21:49.800
+grow the quantity in bacteria, and then use a commercial RNA polymerase to turn that DNA into the RNA that you want to study in your cell culture.
+
+01:21:49.800 --> 01:22:03.800
+And he can say all the things about patents he wants to. If he doesn't explain to you that even if they had that clone in a laboratory unless they made a tank of it, it wasn't going to go very far.
+
+01:22:03.800 --> 01:22:12.800
+And it may be, I don't know, but it may be that a leak of an infectious clone is exactly what happened with the first SARS virus.
+
+01:22:12.800 --> 01:22:22.800
+And that was a known quantity, and that known quantity went around the world and infected a whopping 10,000 people and killed less than 800.
+
+01:22:22.800 --> 01:22:32.800
+Now, if that is what an infectious clone can do in a certain quantity, then that is not a pandemic, it's not pandemic potential, and it never will be.
+
+01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:45.800
+And I think that all of the biology about DNA versus RNA tells us that that is the trick, that RNA, when you spill it outside, is a lot more like paint.
+
+01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:53.800
+You can't expect all the squirrels in my neighborhood to track the paint that I spill in my backyard all over the United States.
+
+01:22:54.800 --> 01:23:08.800
+And you can't expect RNA that's spilt in a laboratory or spilt in a market to behave as a pattern integrity and spread around the world with high fidelity for three and a half years.
+
+01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:15.800
+There's no biology that supports that kind of point release spread. It's just not there.
+
+01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:26.800
+So, JJ, I think you're instrumental in getting me to realize that a lot of what they're saying that they can do or are doing, they actually can't do.
+
+01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:35.800
+And so you actually said on that you didn't actually say it outright, but they're not as clever as some of us think.
+
+01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:40.800
+So do you still think that? Oh, absolutely.
+
+01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:48.800
+So you were the one who got me. Absolutely I do. I mean, this is what we're dealing. I think the best analogy I have.
+
+01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:53.800
+Sorry, JJ. Go ahead.
+
+01:23:53.800 --> 01:24:04.800
+You also mentioned natural immunity. And I wonder whether you've had more time to think about the decline of immunologists or an immunology in in 1980.
+
+01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:10.800
+The lack of how should we say emphasis on immunology and the rising emphasis on the virology.
+
+01:24:10.800 --> 01:24:16.800
+And if you could say a few words, I've got one important question to ask after this, Charles.
+
+01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:21.800
+I mean, I don't really have anything to say about it other than I just.
+
+01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:33.800
+This is the thing they're doing there. They're trying to replace and understanding of the irreducible complexity of biology, which is what immunology is all about.
+
+01:24:33.800 --> 01:24:43.800
+They can get little hints about how things are orchestrated, but it's very quick in immunology, very quick in neurobiology, very quick in a few of these fields.
+
+01:24:43.800 --> 01:24:53.800
+You run into this irreducible complexity where if you're not honest, you might be able to pretend that you're making progress, but in reality, you've got to put your hands up and say we can't get past this point.
+
+01:24:53.800 --> 01:25:04.800
+And I think they have really brainwashed people into believing that there is no irreducible complexity that modern biology can't get passed.
+
+01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:11.800
+Yeah, so when I was a medical student, JJ, I'm the Kings of medicine, if you like, with the immunologists.
+
+01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:20.800
+So it comes as a surprise to me that they're not listened to now because they know all about, of course, the natural immunity of which you speak, which nobody wants to discuss.
+
+01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:25.800
+And then, of course, they want to talk about virologists all the time.
+
+01:25:25.800 --> 01:25:28.800
+But the last question is this.
+
+01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:45.800
+So we had an Australian barrister speaking to us on Tuesday, and his name is Julian Gillespie, and he spoke brilliantly, and I really recommend his presentation to you in particular,
+
+01:25:45.800 --> 01:25:55.800
+because he was outlining evidence which he submitted to the EU and to the UK, but it hasn't got there, apparently.
+
+01:25:55.800 --> 01:26:12.800
+So, yeah, we're going to try and help him with that about the evidence that so human beings who are so concerned about eating genetically modified food, because that was one of the, one of the things that they used in Brexit,
+
+01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:25.800
+you know, to frighten the British public into, oh, you know, if we have Brexit, then we'll be getting a GMO genetically modified food from the United States of America.
+
+01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:39.800
+And that was universally accepted as bad, you know, but all these people who wouldn't dream of eating genetically modified food go happily along and get themselves possibly,
+
+01:26:39.800 --> 01:26:45.800
+and some would say probably, Julian Gillespie included, that they've been genetically modified.
+
+01:26:45.800 --> 01:27:05.800
+So I wanted to, and this is really important, because if that is the case, then in my view, if we put present the message or introduce the seeds into people we're trying to influence, you know, then they will do our work for us, you know, they'll do Julian Gillespie's work as well,
+
+01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:15.800
+because they won't, if there's any possibility in their mind that they have been permanently genetically modified without informed consent,
+
+01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:20.800
+well, they don't realize that at the moment, but they will, then they will do our work for us.
+
+01:27:20.800 --> 01:27:32.800
+So what do you think about that? Is there any possibility in your mind, JJ, that these people who've been injected with these experimental whatever they are,
+
+01:27:32.800 --> 01:27:36.800
+that they've been genetically modified permanently?
+
+01:27:36.800 --> 01:27:44.800
+I mean, if we could show that their B cell and T cell complement was permanently modified, would that be enough?
+
+01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:52.800
+If we could show that their autoimmune response to a particular protein or a particular tissue was modified, would that be enough?
+
+01:27:53.800 --> 01:28:10.800
+So the problem is this is a problem, and this is a big problem, and then this is the reason why I think it's a trap, because if you injected me with this mRNA and this double-stranded DNA contamination and it went all around my body,
+
+01:28:10.800 --> 01:28:21.800
+how would you propose to find it? You could look in my sperm, you could look in my saliva, but if it's in my muscle cells and it's in every third muscle cell,
+
+01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:30.800
+how are you going to find it? If it's in every third kidney cell, every third endothelial cell, how are you going to find the integration of that in that genome?
+
+01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:40.800
+There's no way to sample that except for maybe a small subset of your immune system, which is, then they can say, well, we're not sure whether the DNA did this or the RNA did this,
+
+01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:54.800
+because the whole thing was to augment the immune system. It is a nasty little distraction from the fact that transfection in its purest form was already a terrible idea.
+
+01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:58.800
+If there's crap in it, then that makes it even worse.
+
+01:28:59.800 --> 01:29:04.800
+Yes, but the reason I'm very interested in it, JJ, is the potential for our propaganda.
+
+01:29:04.800 --> 01:29:18.800
+I understand, but what happens if we paid somebody a million dollars and it was like that Buckhalter guy, a Buckhalts from South Carolina and Kevin McKernan from the cannabis genetics?
+
+01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:27.800
+Now, what if we tell those two guys, we got a million dollars, you do the test and they do the test and they don't find genetic integration? Now what?
+
+01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:29.800
+Now we're screwed, that's what?
+
+01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:40.800
+Now you're screwed and everybody's screwed because we just proved their point that, well, there's no genetic integration, so it wasn't that dangerous anyway, and now if we can take it out, what objection could you possibly have?
+
+01:29:41.800 --> 01:29:51.800
+Yes, but Julian Gillespie was quoting a paper from Kevin McKernan from February 2023. Have you seen that paper?
+
+01:29:51.800 --> 01:30:09.800
+Of course, yes, I know what they're talking about. I don't disagree that it's in there. What I disagree with is the idea of pursuing the potential biological possibilities because it's going to create the possibility that we can't find it, because if it is not in our germline,
+
+01:30:09.800 --> 01:30:17.800
+or if it is in non-defiting cells, I don't understand how a biopsy would find it. You could look in the liver.
+
+01:30:17.800 --> 01:30:21.800
+I mean, that's 25 minutes already.
+
+01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:31.800
+Just say this, J.J. Professor Alexandra Henri Enchord was actually talking about the possibility of this two years ago.
+
+01:30:31.800 --> 01:30:41.800
+I agree it's a possibility. I totally agree it's a possibility. The way that you would assay for it is another problem entirely. We'd have to start with people who are injured.
+
+01:30:41.800 --> 01:30:43.800
+So it would be really weird.
+
+01:30:43.800 --> 01:30:57.800
+You say, so your position is this, J.J. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you say that if you even try to prove or disprove that, you're playing into their narrative. Is that correct?
+
+01:30:57.800 --> 01:31:07.800
+Potentially, yes. I don't think that it's necessary to pursue that in that way. Because, again, if what Kevin says, let me play devil's advocate.
+
+01:31:07.800 --> 01:31:18.800
+If Kevin McCurnan says what he says is true, then maybe the real problem is that they lied about the plasmid that they use, not that it's in there.
+
+01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:23.800
+And not that there's contamination, because I think all the people in the process knew that that was possible.
+
+01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:32.800
+Maybe the reason why we need to pursue it is because they lied, and that's a very different pursuit than trying to address the biological consequences of this.
+
+01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:40.800
+And if it's a mythology, then we're addressing the biological consequences of mythology instead of saying that, number one, they shouldn't have done it.
+
+01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:50.800
+Number two, they definitely knew, and we have all kinds of circumstantial evidence that they've known for years that this would not work like they say.
+
+01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:53.800
+And he posted that evidence.
+
+01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:55.800
+All right, thank you, Adrian.
+
+01:31:55.800 --> 01:32:09.800
+Okay, now, before we get to Elbert, I want all of you to understand, to reinforce what JJ has been sharing with us today. I want you to imagine you've entered into a contract.
+
+01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:14.800
+In any part of your life, go get out of the medical space.
+
+01:32:14.800 --> 01:32:26.800
+And you have agreed to pay a $100,000 for a product, a thing, a car.
+
+01:32:26.800 --> 01:32:30.800
+And you didn't get what you paid for.
+
+01:32:31.800 --> 01:32:35.800
+So you go to court.
+
+01:32:35.800 --> 01:32:48.800
+And the plaintiff, who wants his $100,000, he says to the judge, Stephen Frost didn't give me my $100,000.
+
+01:32:48.800 --> 01:32:59.800
+And you're the defendant, Stephen or JJ, and you go, I'm not going to give you the $100,000. I didn't give you the $100,000 because you didn't give me the car that I agreed to buy.
+
+01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:08.800
+But the judge, having heard the plaintiff's case says, no, I don't want to hear anymore. I've heard enough.
+
+01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:14.800
+And if you don't understand what I'm talking about, then you need to watch more of judge duty.
+
+01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:24.800
+Because what we have had humanity has heard, the government has heard, we've heard the plaintiff, so I'd, we're not interested in any opposing views.
+
+01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:34.800
+And if you're not upset about, I don't give a shit about the technology, there has been no proper defendant's case put against what's being imposed on us.
+
+01:33:34.800 --> 01:33:44.800
+And you've got to keep this simple because we will not awaken people to say how, and we have to use this example that you have not heard the alternative story.
+
+01:33:44.800 --> 01:33:46.800
+You've only heard the plaintiff's case.
+
+01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:53.800
+Watch more judge duty. Get your thinking on this. We've been sold abroad. That's what JJ is telling us.
+
+01:33:53.800 --> 01:33:59.800
+And the evidence of this is not a scientific debate. This is a sigh off.
+
+01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:07.800
+Just get it. And we have to be as strong as we possibly can, just like Julian, and get fucking angry.
+
+01:34:07.800 --> 01:34:17.800
+That was Julian's message as well. Get fucking angry that you're the defendant and the judge is ruled against you.
+
+01:34:17.800 --> 01:34:19.800
+All right.
+
+01:34:19.800 --> 01:34:21.800
+Elbert.
+
+01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:22.800
+Yeah.
+
+01:34:22.800 --> 01:34:24.800
+Hi, JJ.
+
+01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:25.800
+Great.
+
+01:34:25.800 --> 01:34:28.800
+Great presentation as usual.
+
+01:34:29.800 --> 01:34:44.800
+For a small disclaimer for the COVID ethics audience is I follow JJ almost every night on his Twitch channel. I put the link of JJ's Twitch channel in the comments so you guys could check that out.
+
+01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:45.800
+Yeah.
+
+01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:51.800
+I did want to give a shout out to one of JJ's partners there, Mark.
+
+01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:52.800
+Coolax.
+
+01:34:52.800 --> 01:35:00.800
+Who's who's the tannics, who's the tannics. I think is he the one that found the Peter Colis video.
+
+01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:02.800
+Yeah, both of us did.
+
+01:35:02.800 --> 01:35:08.800
+It's really because Robert Malone actually at the announcement of the.
+
+01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:15.800
+At the announcement of the Nobel Prize wrote a sub stack about how actually they are skipping Peter Colis and maybe Peter Colis is the guy who should really get it.
+
+01:35:15.800 --> 01:35:20.800
+And that was the only reason why I ever found out who he was and then that led us down a real long.
+
+01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:30.800
+Train of different companies and then I watched this video and I didn't even actually see the question and answer the first time I watched it because the video itself and the talk itself is already pretty mind blowing but then the.
+
+01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:32.800
+Question and answer is just.
+
+01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:33.800
+Yeah.
+
+01:35:33.800 --> 01:35:37.800
+Well, I know how deep the rabbit hole is gone since then.
+
+01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:44.800
+But yeah, just a shout out to use the tannics. I want to throw my some rarer out there for him.
+
+01:35:44.800 --> 01:35:48.800
+A lot of you for him to come out and present to us here.
+
+01:35:48.800 --> 01:36:02.800
+But with that being said, this particular zoom here medical doctors for COVID ethics man more props to Charles and and Dr Frost is that this, this is, I feel like, like this particular zoom.
+
+01:36:02.800 --> 01:36:13.800
+Audience and channel is like the tip of the iceberg. I mean, we can, I think we can see how many, how many VIPs we have just in the audience here.
+
+01:36:13.800 --> 01:36:19.800
+You know, Miss, Miss Vera Shahrav and Dr. Nagasi's here and Jonathan Engler and.
+
+01:36:19.800 --> 01:36:29.800
+Jessica Hockett. I mean, the list goes on. I don't know if you realize JJ, but even Charles Ricksey was in the audience for a little while and he, he split.
+
+01:36:29.800 --> 01:36:34.800
+I was, I was sad because I wanted the raccoon brigade to be on.
+
+01:36:34.800 --> 01:36:53.800
+But I wanted to ask you a question about if you happen to see Thomas's Ren's big bombshell with Marjorie Taylor green a few days ago when he basically said he's got proof that this soldier in Fort Riley, Kansas.
+
+01:36:53.800 --> 01:37:01.800
+At the army hospital there got a COVID job, COVID-19 job, but in 2014.
+
+01:37:01.800 --> 01:37:16.800
+And that's just mind blowing because, you know, we all know that this is a fraud. So the timeline of everything is so important, but, but that particular 2014 is like pushes pushes the fraud back.
+
+01:37:16.800 --> 01:37:21.800
+You know, while probably goes for decades, but definitely it's like, wow.
+
+01:37:22.800 --> 01:37:29.800
+What were the, what were the details of it? Was it really, was it really a COVID shot or was it a coronavirus shot?
+
+01:37:29.800 --> 01:37:43.800
+Well, it said, it said a Moderna, it said a Moderna COVID-19 shot on the, on the soldiers medical records. I put a link. It's further up in the, in the comments. Maybe it'll.
+
+01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:46.800
+No, I don't have it copied.
+
+01:37:46.800 --> 01:37:55.800
+I'd have to look. I mean, I don't, I don't know. The problem, the problem I have, and I, I'm not trying to be insulting. I'm trying to be objective.
+
+01:37:55.800 --> 01:38:09.800
+Thomas rents is working with Andrew Huff and both of those guys have been in and out of contact with me for two and a half years and it goes hot and then it goes cold.
+
+01:38:09.800 --> 01:38:21.800
+It's like, do you want to make some money and testify or, or give an affidavit and then it goes cold, sign this memorandum of, of whatever. And then I do that and then nothing.
+
+01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:29.800
+And then now I haven't heard from either of them in probably a year and a half already now. So it's hard for me to understand.
+
+01:38:30.800 --> 01:38:43.800
+And, and I can't pay attention to all of these people. And unfortunately, I've kind of stopped paying attention to Thomas rents because of his association with Andrew Huff, who I'm not really convinced about, but it's, it's not just trying to be objective.
+
+01:38:43.800 --> 01:38:48.800
+We can't pay attention to everything. And there's some other things that have kept me from processing that.
+
+01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:50.800
+Fair enough, JJ.
+
+01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:55.800
+It's pleasure. It is pleasure, pleasure for me to be on your team, JJ. God bless you.
+
+01:38:55.800 --> 01:38:57.800
+Thank you.
+
+01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:02.800
+Thank you, Elbert. Last from Sweden, I believe.
+
+01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:06.800
+That's correct.
+
+01:39:06.800 --> 01:39:14.800
+I have a question for you, Stephen Frost. He asked the question about your view on David Martin.
+
+01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:20.800
+And I think actually that you and David are probably a little closer together than you assume.
+
+01:39:20.800 --> 01:39:27.800
+If I could arrange a discussion between you and the David in this forum, would that be interesting for you?
+
+01:39:27.800 --> 01:39:29.800
+Absolutely. Absolutely. Of course I would.
+
+01:39:29.800 --> 01:39:36.800
+I'll see if I could do that because I think between the two of you, you have a lot of interesting substance.
+
+01:39:36.800 --> 01:39:44.800
+Sure. I've tried before to get him to let me interview him and it might just be that he gets, you know, inundated with emails and I'm just another blip.
+
+01:39:44.800 --> 01:39:50.800
+So if you can do that, that would be great. I'd love to interview him and also be on here with him. That would be great.
+
+01:39:50.800 --> 01:39:52.800
+Great. Thank you.
+
+01:39:55.800 --> 01:39:57.800
+I think Lex is up.
+
+01:39:59.800 --> 01:40:05.800
+All right. He has Lex trousers. He's not there at the moment. Anyway, so go ahead, Lex.
+
+01:40:05.800 --> 01:40:12.800
+I have a short question and then a comment, a few comments about the lipid nanoparticle. I'll be very brief, Stephen.
+
+01:40:13.800 --> 01:40:20.800
+My question to JJ is, how long do you think the lipid nanoparticle stays in a human body?
+
+01:40:20.800 --> 01:40:25.800
+How long does it stay like forever or does it get degraded, absorbed, metabolized?
+
+01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:28.800
+What's your thinking on this?
+
+01:40:29.800 --> 01:40:32.800
+Are you going to make the comments now or do you want me to answer that question first?
+
+01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:34.800
+Well, you can answer the question.
+
+01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:36.800
+I'll talk about what I found about the other.
+
+01:40:36.800 --> 01:40:51.800
+Extremely short answer would be, I have no idea. I know from listening to Peter Coles and others that there are many manipulations that they can do chemically to the lipids to change their dwell time to change their uptake rate to.
+
+01:40:51.800 --> 01:40:57.800
+They can coat them with different things. They can pass them through the liver. So the liver coats them with things.
+
+01:40:58.800 --> 01:41:07.800
+But you've heard it briefly earlier. I don't think they really know. And I think their assumption is really based on what they're trying to accomplish in a grant application.
+
+01:41:07.800 --> 01:41:15.800
+If they're trying to accomplish a very temporary expression of a protein, then they'll tell you it lasts for a few days or maybe a week.
+
+01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:20.800
+And if they're trying to replace a gene that's missing, they'll tell you that we can express a protein for months.
+
+01:41:21.800 --> 01:41:30.800
+And so to me, I think this is one of the places where the most hand waving about the fidelity of understanding has occurred.
+
+01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:39.800
+And so I would definitely not have a reasonable answer. I don't know. I would expect that it's much worse and much longer and less temporary than they say.
+
+01:41:40.800 --> 01:41:50.800
+And I also think that repeated exposure to it has unforeseen consequences that might be less if there was a possibility where you could just be...
+
+01:41:50.800 --> 01:42:00.800
+I mean, I'm saying something really stupid here that I don't believe, but maybe if you only had to transfect somebody once and it would work, I could imagine maybe in cancer or something.
+
+01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:07.800
+That's a legitimate therapy. But once you need to do it repeatedly, I think there is no example.
+
+01:42:07.800 --> 01:42:13.800
+I can't do it on a laboratory. I mean, let me give you the briefest example I can when I do that in a mouse.
+
+01:42:13.800 --> 01:42:20.800
+And when they do it in other labs with more in vivo experiments, live experiments.
+
+01:42:20.800 --> 01:42:25.800
+So I would always do the transfection of the mouse. The mouse is just living in its cage.
+
+01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:31.800
+And then when I want to do my measurements, the mouse gets sacrificed. I dissect the brain very quick under ice.
+
+01:42:31.800 --> 01:42:37.800
+I make really small slices and put them under a microscope with physiological conditions and bubbling water.
+
+01:42:37.800 --> 01:42:42.800
+And they last for about four hours, and I can make a few experiments, and then that mouse is gone forever.
+
+01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:50.800
+Now, we understand how to use it as a tool like that, but we don't use those mice for years.
+
+01:42:50.800 --> 01:43:00.800
+If you transfect a mouse and change its brain in a way that you think you understand, you can study the effects of that manipulation for about six weeks at maximum.
+
+01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:11.800
+And then the immunological consequences of that manipulation are going to outweigh, overtake, and eventually destroy any meaningful data that you're going to get from the manipulation when it was working.
+
+01:43:11.800 --> 01:43:23.800
+And so we know from working on all levels of laboratory animals, from cell culture to drosophila, which is a fly to mice and ferrets and monkeys,
+
+01:43:23.800 --> 01:43:32.800
+that transfection is a very transient and potentially dangerous manipulation that has a time limit based on the immune response.
+
+01:43:32.800 --> 01:43:42.800
+So we have never, in a biological, on the bench use, repeatedly transfected an animal. We do it once.
+
+01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:47.800
+We watch the changes of the manipulation, and we sacrifice the animal. That's how it's done.
+
+01:43:47.800 --> 01:43:59.800
+There is no animal model of a disease or an animal model of a therapy where an animal is getting regular injections of a transfection that end up replacing a protein and making the symphony sing again.
+
+01:43:59.800 --> 01:44:04.800
+That has never, ever, and Peter Cullis just said it never, ever been done.
+
+01:44:04.800 --> 01:44:14.800
+And so that's why they're exclusively focused right now on vaccines, because then you're not thinking about this giant limitation, which it really is.
+
+01:44:15.800 --> 01:44:22.800
+I was more wondering, after six months, the lipid nanoparticle is gone or a third year or something like that.
+
+01:44:22.800 --> 01:44:32.800
+Oh, I see. And I don't think they know. And I don't think we can know, because in theory, those lipids would incorporate into the membranes that they fuse with.
+
+01:44:32.800 --> 01:44:35.800
+And so then I don't know how quickly they're processed. Sorry.
+
+01:44:35.800 --> 01:44:40.800
+So now I'll move on to my quick comments about the lipid nanoparticle. And I'll be very brief.
+
+01:44:40.800 --> 01:44:45.800
+I read the Pfizer contract with the European Union.
+
+01:44:45.800 --> 01:44:54.800
+In it, there is a document called the technical specification of the lipid nanoparticle. It lists like four lipids.
+
+01:44:54.800 --> 01:45:04.800
+And there's a form inside that document. And the form number is INX followed by a bunch of numbers.
+
+01:45:05.800 --> 01:45:14.800
+And I believe that INX stands for INX pharmaceutical or INX biopharma, which is the predecessor company of TechMera.
+
+01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:21.800
+And then TechMera in 2015 became Arbutus pharmaceutical.
+
+01:45:21.800 --> 01:45:26.800
+And I went deep into the financial statements of that publicly listed company.
+
+01:45:27.800 --> 01:45:40.800
+And I found out that in 2015, Vivek Ramashwami, who's a contender for the GOP nomination, acquired Arbutus.
+
+01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:46.800
+So, can you tell me, can you say that name better, which is our cutest? What are you saying? Can you spell it maybe?
+
+01:45:46.800 --> 01:45:51.800
+Arbutus, A-R-B-U-T-U-S.
+
+01:45:52.800 --> 01:45:55.800
+And that descended from TechMera?
+
+01:45:55.800 --> 01:46:06.800
+What I'm saying here is that in the United States, you have a fake nomination run for the Republican nomination.
+
+01:46:06.800 --> 01:46:11.800
+There's Vivek Ramashwami, I think the second or the third in line.
+
+01:46:11.800 --> 01:46:22.800
+And in 2015, using a company that he incorporated less than a year before, he acquired Arbutus.
+
+01:46:22.800 --> 01:46:28.800
+And Arbutus is the company that owns the tech of the LNP.
+
+01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:29.800
+I see.
+
+01:46:29.800 --> 01:46:37.800
+All right. So, this is very interesting that on one end, we've got Trump, we signed on Operation Warp Speed.
+
+01:46:37.800 --> 01:46:44.800
+And then a few years later, we have Vivek Ramashwami, who's like quote-unquote running against Trump, but I don't think he is.
+
+01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:51.800
+And that guy acquired the LNP and all the clinical history and all of it.
+
+01:46:51.800 --> 01:46:55.800
+And I found that out in the financial statements of Arbutus.
+
+01:46:55.800 --> 01:46:59.800
+And I've written quite a bit about it.
+
+01:46:59.800 --> 01:47:06.800
+And there's also like some shenanigans about how it was done, and I won't go into those details.
+
+01:47:06.800 --> 01:47:10.800
+But if you want to know more about it, you can reach out to me.
+
+01:47:10.800 --> 01:47:13.800
+I'm very easy to find on the internet. You just Google my name.
+
+01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:14.800
+Okay.
+
+01:47:14.800 --> 01:47:15.800
+All right.
+
+01:47:15.800 --> 01:47:17.800
+Thank you very much for that.
+
+01:47:17.800 --> 01:47:21.800
+Oh, there's one last thing. One last thing. One last thing. Very important.
+
+01:47:21.800 --> 01:47:30.800
+Vivek Ramashwami, when he was at Arbutus, he wrote a paper called, titled,
+
+01:47:30.800 --> 01:47:36.800
+At Humanities Boundary, Ethical Issues in the Creation of Human Animal Chimera.
+
+01:47:36.800 --> 01:47:41.800
+Unfortunately, I'm not able to access the Harvard Library.
+
+01:47:41.800 --> 01:47:49.800
+Would there be anyone on this call who has access to the Harvard Library and would be able to dig up that paper for me?
+
+01:47:49.800 --> 01:47:51.800
+I would love to read it.
+
+01:47:51.800 --> 01:47:52.800
+Me too.
+
+01:47:52.800 --> 01:47:53.800
+All right.
+
+01:47:53.800 --> 01:47:57.800
+So I really want that paper. I have no access to it.
+
+01:47:57.800 --> 01:48:01.800
+I need someone who can access like the Hollis Harvard Library.
+
+01:48:01.800 --> 01:48:06.800
+And I can drop it. I can drop in the chat like the name and the link of that paper.
+
+01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:16.800
+I really want it because it would give me an indication of what's in the headspace of Vivek Ramashwami in 2015 when he acquired the LNP.
+
+01:48:16.800 --> 01:48:25.800
+Lex, I probably have access through a member of the family to that library.
+
+01:48:25.800 --> 01:48:30.800
+Please, I'm going to drop the details in the chat. I'd like to follow up on this just for my curiosity.
+
+01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:34.800
+To remind me, can you just email me? And then I see it then.
+
+01:48:34.800 --> 01:48:35.800
+Okay.
+
+01:48:35.800 --> 01:48:41.800
+And Diana and Diana also put a note in the chat there, Lex, so communicate with her.
+
+01:48:41.800 --> 01:48:44.800
+All right. Thank you. Thank you for listening.
+
+01:48:44.800 --> 01:48:47.800
+Diana, who is that, Charles?
+
+01:48:47.800 --> 01:48:48.800
+Diana Henry.
+
+01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:50.800
+Oh, yeah. Okay.
+
+01:48:51.800 --> 01:48:56.800
+Thank you, Lex. Again, everybody, note that you have a request. You have a problem.
+
+01:48:56.800 --> 01:49:02.800
+You post it here. There's a lot of there's a lot of minds available here and one's idea sparks and other.
+
+01:49:02.800 --> 01:49:09.800
+So that's the point of coming together and you get into the habit of being able to ask questions and get a lead.
+
+01:49:09.800 --> 01:49:12.800
+I am terrified. It's Daniel Nagasi.
+
+01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:17.800
+You are one of the people that spoke out the earliest in my view.
+
+01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:23.800
+And I have a lot of respect for you. I haven't really seen a lot of you since the beginning of the pandemic.
+
+01:49:23.800 --> 01:49:33.800
+But what I saw was somebody going out in public and putting their physical and their voice behind the claims.
+
+01:49:33.800 --> 01:49:40.800
+And I just want to say it right away. I don't know what your comments are going to be, but you're a hero in my book.
+
+01:49:40.800 --> 01:49:43.800
+Yeah, I agree with you.
+
+01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:46.800
+Thank you very much.
+
+01:49:46.800 --> 01:49:49.800
+Right.
+
+01:49:49.800 --> 01:49:52.800
+Right.
+
+01:49:52.800 --> 01:49:56.800
+Daniel's shocking reception.
+
+01:49:56.800 --> 01:50:01.800
+I've muted you and mute yourself. Try again.
+
+01:50:01.800 --> 01:50:04.800
+Can you get me now?
+
+01:50:05.800 --> 01:50:10.800
+Daniel, you've got a terrible broadband connection by the south.
+
+01:50:10.800 --> 01:50:14.800
+Yeah, we can't even. Oh, okay. That sucks.
+
+01:50:14.800 --> 01:50:21.800
+No, maybe I can go in and out a little bit better.
+
+01:50:21.800 --> 01:50:26.800
+Is that better? A little bit. Yes.
+
+01:50:27.800 --> 01:50:29.800
+Oh, thank you.
+
+01:50:29.800 --> 01:50:32.800
+It's an honor.
+
+01:50:32.800 --> 01:50:37.800
+Daniel, it's really not working.
+
+01:50:37.800 --> 01:50:40.800
+You're breaking up, Daniel.
+
+01:50:40.800 --> 01:50:43.800
+Try it.
+
+01:50:43.800 --> 01:50:45.800
+Jump back.
+
+01:50:45.800 --> 01:50:49.800
+Can you try and get a better connection?
+
+01:50:49.800 --> 01:50:54.800
+There's not two of us needing to do this.
+
+01:50:54.800 --> 01:50:56.800
+We'll be talking over each other.
+
+01:50:56.800 --> 01:50:57.800
+Yeah, sorry.
+
+01:50:57.800 --> 01:51:01.800
+I'll moderate it. If we can't hear Daniel, it's clear. He'll have to call back. We'll try one more time.
+
+01:51:01.800 --> 01:51:10.800
+Daniel, try and unmute. See if it works. Otherwise, we'll get a Caledean cotton log back in.
+
+01:51:10.800 --> 01:51:12.800
+No, no good.
+
+01:51:12.800 --> 01:51:16.800
+All right, Daniel, you have to log back in or do something. Caledean.
+
+01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:18.800
+Hey, thank you.
+
+01:51:18.800 --> 01:51:19.800
+JJ.
+
+01:51:19.800 --> 01:51:21.800
+Hello.
+
+01:51:21.800 --> 01:51:24.800
+Good to see you again.
+
+01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:28.800
+JJ's muted. Oh, sorry.
+
+01:51:28.800 --> 01:51:32.800
+I wasn't muted. Oh, yeah. Good to see you again. Hello.
+
+01:51:32.800 --> 01:51:41.800
+This may be an oversimplification, but you had mentioned something about a blue light with your mice that you were working with.
+
+01:51:41.800 --> 01:51:51.800
+And in our neighborhood and throughout our city about every other street light now is becoming a blue light.
+
+01:51:51.800 --> 01:51:54.800
+Does that have any correlation at all?
+
+01:51:54.800 --> 01:51:56.800
+No, it doesn't.
+
+01:51:56.800 --> 01:52:04.800
+Blue light is not really good for a lot of other reasons, but it just happens to be that the.
+
+01:52:04.800 --> 01:52:11.800
+That the protein that we were able to use and was was was optimized for that use in in the.
+
+01:52:11.800 --> 01:52:16.800
+In in neurobiology, they optimized it for the cheapest laser color.
+
+01:52:16.800 --> 01:52:18.800
+So it's kind of a.
+
+01:52:18.800 --> 01:52:26.800
+I mean, red's okay, but but this this protein can react to a lot of different colors and they chose blue because that's one of the cheaper.
+
+01:52:26.800 --> 01:52:30.800
+I believe one of the cheaper laser LEDs to make. So it has nothing to do with that.
+
+01:52:30.800 --> 01:52:35.800
+And if these proteins, I mean, you can talk to the inventor of this technology.
+
+01:52:35.800 --> 01:52:40.800
+This is wholly inappropriate for any kind of manipulation or correction medically.
+
+01:52:40.800 --> 01:52:47.800
+It's really a bench tool for the manipulate short term manipulation of a biological substance or a biological system.
+
+01:52:47.800 --> 01:52:50.800
+So I don't think they're related. Sorry.
+
+01:52:50.800 --> 01:52:51.800
+Thank you.
+
+01:52:51.800 --> 01:52:52.800
+Yep.
+
+01:52:52.800 --> 01:52:58.800
+And then you've got a lovely blue light behind your left ear that we can see.
+
+01:52:58.800 --> 01:53:00.800
+On your window.
+
+01:53:00.800 --> 01:53:09.800
+And well, I'm stuffed back in my bathroom packing and while I'm packing to leave for the.
+
+01:53:09.800 --> 01:53:11.800
+I didn't want to miss JJ's.
+
+01:53:11.800 --> 01:53:16.800
+So I thought, Hey, but good decision, good, good decision.
+
+01:53:16.800 --> 01:53:18.800
+All right.
+
+01:53:18.800 --> 01:53:22.800
+Yes, thanks. Giving is coming up. So all of that stuff is happening.
+
+01:53:22.800 --> 01:53:28.800
+All right. Hands Benjamin often called Benjamin JJ to save your words or Benjamin over to you.
+
+01:53:28.800 --> 01:53:35.800
+Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for a very instructive talk. So, but it's rather far away from what I'm doing.
+
+01:53:35.800 --> 01:53:39.800
+And just to connect actually the two fields.
+
+01:53:39.800 --> 01:53:50.800
+I was always wondering, you know, in computer science, as you may know, a lot of victim from the medical profession, namely famous Alan Turing.
+
+01:53:50.800 --> 01:53:57.800
+You know, he was investigating, you know, essentially the blueprint for computers very early on.
+
+01:53:57.800 --> 01:54:03.800
+And one of the prime issues there is how do you bring a computer program to hold?
+
+01:54:03.800 --> 01:54:07.800
+And as we know, this poses a problem whenever we have a machine crashing.
+
+01:54:07.800 --> 01:54:15.800
+Now, what I've not seen actually being discussed in this context of, you know, microbiology is.
+
+01:54:15.800 --> 01:54:23.800
+So in many of these processes, you actually you try to trigger something, but it's actually never being discussed.
+
+01:54:23.800 --> 01:54:30.800
+How do you stop the processes? Whatever you are actually trying to launch.
+
+01:54:30.800 --> 01:54:36.800
+So why is this not the case? Because we know that even in this very abstract, nearly mathematical sense.
+
+01:54:36.800 --> 01:54:43.800
+It's very difficult if you have a set of operations, you know, and which consecutively trigger each other.
+
+01:54:43.800 --> 01:54:52.800
+How do you bring this thing to a halt? And why do a biology, of course, everything is way, way more complicated.
+
+01:54:52.800 --> 01:54:58.800
+So how can we then use our technological knowledge to somehow embark on something?
+
+01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:03.800
+And you don't know where it's going to end up. And I find this actually frightening.
+
+01:55:03.800 --> 01:55:08.800
+Why is nobody talking across the disciplines? Because I think this is a very vital issue.
+
+01:55:08.800 --> 01:55:12.800
+So, but maybe, I mean, you must certainly know more about this.
+
+01:55:13.800 --> 01:55:15.800
+Well, I would just.
+
+01:55:15.800 --> 01:55:19.800
+You know, so Hans Benjamin is a professor of theoretical physics.
+
+01:55:19.800 --> 01:55:24.800
+And he's an expert on the Nord Stream pipeline explosions.
+
+01:55:24.800 --> 01:55:27.800
+I can only answer with.
+
+01:55:27.800 --> 01:55:36.800
+I think that that the reference that I made before to life being a pattern integrity and that there being some irreducible complexity there.
+
+01:55:37.800 --> 01:55:47.800
+I think that's really almost the main objective of the pandemic and the science that preceded it is this.
+
+01:55:47.800 --> 01:56:01.800
+I mean, the trans the trans human agenda can't proceed if the common knowledge of the average person is that somewhere there's an irreducible complexity, a sacredness that we can't really pass.
+
+01:56:02.800 --> 01:56:15.800
+And that, that I think is sort of the idea with regard to, if you teach biology the right way and you understand it as a pattern integrity, then all of these manipulations seem terrifying.
+
+01:56:15.800 --> 01:56:19.800
+And it is, it is really what Peter Callis said there.
+
+01:56:19.800 --> 01:56:23.800
+If you're causing adverse events, just stop giving it and then everything will go back to normal.
+
+01:56:23.800 --> 01:56:38.800
+That absolutely ridiculous assumption is the, the inverse of what you just said, which is how do we stop this stuff and what kind of changes are we permanently making to this ongoing process that we think we can just tweak.
+
+01:56:38.800 --> 01:56:45.800
+A few years ago, I actually critiqued a presentation by the lady from Moderna.
+
+01:56:46.800 --> 01:56:56.800
+And what I explained was that if you think of the immune system and its function as a stage production that includes a orchestra in the orchestra pit.
+
+01:56:56.800 --> 01:57:05.800
+And the, the, the play starts and in the second act, the, the director of the play realizes that there are instruments missing.
+
+01:57:06.800 --> 01:57:11.800
+And so the way that they fix it is that they give a bunch of those instruments to little kids and tell them to march out on stage.
+
+01:57:11.800 --> 01:57:18.800
+That's not going to be a useful augmentation to what was probably an okay show that was just missing some percussion.
+
+01:57:18.800 --> 01:57:34.800
+And so what we're doing here is exactly the same thing where we're arrogantly saying that we can augment a ongoing set of complex processes that we can't even describe in their, in their, in their default form.
+
+01:57:35.800 --> 01:57:39.800
+And their default operation. So I agree wholeheartedly with that.
+
+01:57:39.800 --> 01:57:49.800
+And I love the fact that, that you, that you jumped on the idea that all of these processes in biology are absolutely impossibly complex.
+
+01:57:49.800 --> 01:57:54.800
+And we used to have a real healthy respect for that, but we seem to have lost it.
+
+01:57:55.800 --> 01:58:07.800
+Yeah, thank you very much. Actually, in this context, if I'm allowed to make another remark, because I came a booklet by Bob Loughlin, he won the Nobel Prize in physics in 1998.
+
+01:58:07.800 --> 01:58:13.800
+And I think the book is only available in, in Germany's German translation.
+
+01:58:13.800 --> 01:58:23.800
+And it's more or less the title says, you know, crime on rationality, you know, fraud and in the society in the knowledge society.
+
+01:58:23.800 --> 01:58:36.800
+And what he actually says right in his first chapter is people are not aware that we actually have outsourced a lot of gain of knowledge in the labs.
+
+01:58:36.800 --> 01:58:43.800
+It actually into labs, which are completely secret. They are like defense labs. They are labs of companies.
+
+01:58:43.800 --> 01:58:48.800
+And we have a public have no way to actually know what's going on.
+
+01:58:48.800 --> 01:59:00.800
+And it's particularly true and worrisome in physics. And I presume probably the same in biology as we've learned from this move on the story, you know, it's incredibly.
+
+01:59:00.800 --> 01:59:09.800
+So actually, we have no idea. Nobody is actually telling what to do about if allowed to do and what is not allowed to be done.
+
+01:59:10.800 --> 01:59:19.800
+And so, and I mean, he wrote this book like 14 years ago, I think like 2008 and something.
+
+01:59:19.800 --> 01:59:30.800
+So he already foresaw it because he was actually working in Lawrence Livermore National Lab, which is the U.S. weapon laser weapon lab.
+
+01:59:30.800 --> 01:59:45.800
+So he knows what he is talking about. Right. So I just wanted to say that it's, I mean, what you just mentioned for biology that a lot of stuff is done being done secretly and people are just sleepwalking into something.
+
+01:59:46.800 --> 01:59:59.800
+Same mode for physics as well. So we really seem to have a large fraction of knowledge, which is just somehow put into a locked into a copper that it's not visible to us.
+
+01:59:59.800 --> 02:00:08.800
+Actually, for decades, no, in nuclear technology, it's actually, it's never actually being known. It's only, you only know what man is too late.
+
+02:00:08.800 --> 02:00:22.800
+And so would you, could you cite any examples in physics where they have exaggerated the threat of something in order to get more funding for it or exaggerated the threat of something to hide the threat of another thing?
+
+02:00:22.800 --> 02:00:42.800
+My example would be that from the very beginning, they have been using people, and in particular, the one that really gets stuck in my teeth is Kevin S felt because Kevin S felt working at MIT has perfected two different forms of synthetic biology, one being the gene drive
+
+02:00:42.800 --> 02:00:45.800
+and the other being directed evolution of enzymes and toxins.
+
+02:00:45.800 --> 02:00:54.800
+And these two synthetic biological processes, in my humble opinion, are actually the synthetic biology we need to be afraid of them using.
+
+02:00:54.800 --> 02:01:05.800
+And yet that guy was the guy that they chose to put in front of Congress and say the gain of function in viruses is the thing that we need legislation about and we need to be put into jail for.
+
+02:01:05.800 --> 02:01:17.800
+And I'm wondering if there's something in physics that's like that, where the shiny object over here gets everybody to argue, and in reality, the guys that are tweaking over here are the ones, and that's not even discussed.
+
+02:01:18.800 --> 02:01:38.800
+I would say it's in two aspects. What I saw now with my diverted discussion here, but what I saw with my reaction to my investigations is on the use of nuclear devices, is that people have this also triggered by movies and public opinion.
+
+02:01:38.800 --> 02:01:49.800
+And what we have is huge nuclear explosions, this huge fireball, and everybody notices when this goes off, and that's three seconds before the end of the world.
+
+02:01:49.800 --> 02:02:07.800
+But actually, they have completely missed the development that there has been a push, actually, since the 90s, to develop weapons between the normal conventional and growth weapons, battlefield weapons and nuclear weapons, because there was a huge gap in between.
+
+02:02:07.800 --> 02:02:22.800
+Now, this gap has been closed, and nobody knows about it. You're being attacked for actually pointing it out, and you can listen to Congress hearings where people say, and they say, oh, we need to develop these things in order to deter Russia.
+
+02:02:22.800 --> 02:02:32.800
+But again, low-yield nuclear weapons to deter Russia, so what is actually your intention, really? So you may want to.
+
+02:02:32.800 --> 02:02:49.800
+So I think it's a lot of, as you say, you somehow divert attention in a very stable way, and actually the big things are really being hidden, and nobody talks about it, and this is completely dangerous.
+
+02:02:49.800 --> 02:02:55.800
+I know you will be silenced, and that's what happened to the counter debate, as I said earlier.
+
+02:02:55.800 --> 02:03:04.800
+Opposition is silenced, and Benjamin, you're being silenced, and all of us need to know it on the work you've done on Nord Stream, so all of us have to use our resources.
+
+02:03:04.800 --> 02:03:20.800
+I'll give you another example on aviation, the impending disaster in aviation, of damaged pilots, and from these jabs, and Captain Shane Murdoch, who I work closely with, who I've interviewed.
+
+02:03:20.800 --> 02:03:27.800
+Now he's getting traction on his article that he published months ago, and you just have to keep pumping it out there, you just have to keep pumping it out there.
+
+02:03:27.800 --> 02:03:36.800
+Now before we go to Jim, I've got Daniel's question here, JJ. So it's in the chat. I'll read it so you can pretend I'm Daniel.
+
+02:03:36.800 --> 02:03:46.800
+How accessible is independent DNA sequencing? No university labs in Canada will sequence samples of alleged mRNA.
+
+02:03:46.800 --> 02:04:09.800
+He goes on, I suspect 10 years in the future, the mass injection campaign of 20 to 22 has created a new market for genetic testing, and then an expensive market for gene unediting therapy to cure the DNA mRNA small fragment RNA alterations to the genomes of people who took the injection.
+
+02:04:09.800 --> 02:04:14.800
+Oh my gosh, I'm really not happy with that question.
+
+02:04:14.800 --> 02:04:21.800
+I haven't thought about that, Daniel, and everyone. I hadn't thought about that.
+
+02:04:21.800 --> 02:04:38.800
+It's definitely possible, even if these demons know that there was no integration, that sounds like a really good mythology that would move a lot of money, and get a lot of emergency youth authorizations.
+
+02:04:38.800 --> 02:04:50.800
+I think it's an extraordinary nasty possibility that I hadn't really registered yet, and yeah, I don't know what to say other than it's a great question, it's totally possible.
+
+02:04:50.800 --> 02:05:06.800
+I'm still erring on the side of them using this as a distraction to try and forgive people. Again, the story is going to be that they rushed it, and that if they'd taken their time, all of this could have been avoided, whatever this is.
+
+02:05:06.800 --> 02:05:17.800
+And the people that watch TV think this is very tiny, and the people on our side think it's almost everybody that took the shot, and so that debate's not occurring in light of the adulteration.
+
+02:05:17.800 --> 02:05:25.800
+But it's a wonderful question. Thanks, Daniel, and like I said, you're a hero to me, so it's great that you were here. I'm sorry we couldn't talk.
+
+02:05:26.800 --> 02:05:34.800
+And Daniel also put in the chat, JJ, that he thanks you for exposing Robert Malone, so that you put that into the chat.
+
+02:05:34.800 --> 02:05:43.800
+So don't forget to save the chat. All right, we've got 25 minutes to go, we've got Jim and Jonathan, and then we'll go back to Stephen.
+
+02:05:43.800 --> 02:05:49.800
+We'll finish in 25 minutes, JJ, are you okay for the next 25 minutes? Sure, no problem.
+
+02:05:50.800 --> 02:05:51.800
+All right, Jim.
+
+02:05:51.800 --> 02:05:53.800
+Hey, JJ, thanks very much. Great work.
+
+02:05:53.800 --> 02:06:00.800
+Your University of Pittsburgh specializes in anthrax, I guess, and it's going to be some very important work in the future.
+
+02:06:00.800 --> 02:06:10.800
+My question to you is what's in those vaccines, or what's in the vials, and the mRNA technology versus the DNA plasmids.
+
+02:06:11.800 --> 02:06:22.800
+Recent evaluations have shown that there are DNA plasmid various fragments, and you've pointed out throughout your talks that there are various pieces of this spike protein being pumped out.
+
+02:06:22.800 --> 02:06:36.800
+And I've been seeing some people who are in trials for mRNA vaccines, and they have to be administered within two or three hours after thawing.
+
+02:06:37.800 --> 02:06:45.800
+That's for like real gene therapy, but these vaccines, once they thawed them, then they use them for days.
+
+02:06:45.800 --> 02:06:51.800
+Is it possible that the mRNA is not making these spike proteins?
+
+02:06:51.800 --> 02:06:57.800
+The mRNA is, you know, a few minutes after it's thawed, then it does work.
+
+02:06:58.800 --> 02:07:07.800
+But the real manufacture of these spike proteins is from the DNA plasmids that may be incorporating into the gut, or wherever, through the E. coli.
+
+02:07:07.800 --> 02:07:12.800
+So there's a couple angles there that I want to hit.
+
+02:07:12.800 --> 02:07:16.800
+So the first one is the incorporation into gut bacteria.
+
+02:07:16.800 --> 02:07:20.800
+That's a really big stretch from intramuscular injection.
+
+02:07:21.800 --> 02:07:30.800
+It assumes quite a few things that I don't think are very likely, but that doesn't mean that it won't happen.
+
+02:07:30.800 --> 02:07:40.800
+I think there is more of an impetus for them to get access to exactly the same way that Daniel Nagasi was suggesting there.
+
+02:07:40.800 --> 02:07:46.800
+They want to get access to the excuse to sequence everything and anything they can sample.
+
+02:07:46.800 --> 02:07:56.800
+So if they can get people convinced that the microbiome is something that everybody should use metagenomics to sequence, then they'll definitely go for that.
+
+02:07:56.800 --> 02:08:11.800
+With regard to the DNA versus the mRNA, I'm still in my mind not totally convinced that the DNA matters relative to the RNA.
+
+02:08:11.800 --> 02:08:17.800
+So it is really just from my own experience, but my own experience is twisted in that sense.
+
+02:08:17.800 --> 02:08:26.800
+If you were paying, if I was doing my job correctly, you heard me say that the tool that I used was an adenovirus, and that means it's using DNA.
+
+02:08:26.800 --> 02:08:31.800
+And every once in a while, we were also using mRNA for a similar thing.
+
+02:08:31.800 --> 02:08:42.800
+So I did some small interfering RNA knockdowns of nicotinic receptors and things like that, which is injecting mRNA and then using that to downregulate the expression of proteins.
+
+02:08:42.800 --> 02:08:56.800
+And so I have some in my imagination already bias that I can't get rid of because the way that I understand the application of these technologies is really, really limited.
+
+02:08:57.800 --> 02:09:05.800
+Even when we do it in the mice, keep in mind that we drill a hole in the skull and inject anatomically directly into the brain.
+
+02:09:05.800 --> 02:09:13.800
+And so there's also the blood brain barrier keeping that adenovirus transfection from leaving the brain and going throughout the body.
+
+02:09:13.800 --> 02:09:19.800
+And we would never think to inject the mouse with that adenovirus and hope that it would get to the brain.
+
+02:09:19.800 --> 02:09:34.800
+And so there's a, I'm not, I don't want to discount it. What I really want to emphasize just to make sure that everybody understands is that the randomness of this, if you're taking this lipid nanoparticle and just say you're only paying attention to the double stranded DNA in there.
+
+02:09:35.800 --> 02:09:41.800
+If it is to incorporate where will it incorporate in your endothelial cells is one of the highest likelihood places.
+
+02:09:41.800 --> 02:09:45.800
+How will you biopsy that? How will we find out that that happened?
+
+02:09:45.800 --> 02:09:50.800
+And what will the consequences be if the endothelial cells aren't really dividing?
+
+02:09:50.800 --> 02:09:57.800
+The spike protein is almost certainly produced by the mRNA. The question is how pure is the mRNA?
+
+02:09:57.800 --> 02:10:05.800
+How active is it? And you're questioning about temperature is really valid.
+
+02:10:05.800 --> 02:10:16.800
+That's another reason why just to throw that out there, why we shouldn't take the results of Kevin McCurnan and Buckhalter totally seriously.
+
+02:10:16.800 --> 02:10:23.800
+Why? Not because they're liars, but because the FDA won't take them seriously because they don't have a chain of custody.
+
+02:10:23.800 --> 02:10:30.800
+And so they'll say that, well, whatever vaccine they had is not an official vile anymore because it wasn't stored at temperature.
+
+02:10:30.800 --> 02:10:33.800
+We don't have a chain of custody. You don't have proof that your stuff was calibrated.
+
+02:10:33.800 --> 02:10:36.800
+They'll have a whole list of things, why that's not true.
+
+02:10:36.800 --> 02:10:40.800
+And then they won't ever give us a sample to use. So it's really going to be tricky.
+
+02:10:40.800 --> 02:10:52.800
+We're trying to work behind the scenes to get Kevin McCurnan and Buckhalts from South Carolina to take samples from a colleague that we have in Germany
+
+02:10:52.800 --> 02:11:02.800
+who is actively transfecting cell cultures with the mRNA so that she can use that as a control when people are doing autopsies.
+
+02:11:02.800 --> 02:11:15.800
+And so she wants to send some of these transfected cell lines over to Kevin and over to Philip so that they can do their sequencing and see if in that cell culture we're already getting genetic integration.
+
+02:11:15.800 --> 02:11:23.800
+That would probably be the best first pass test. But again, if that happens and they say they don't find anything, then what?
+
+02:11:23.800 --> 02:11:32.800
+And that's the danger because we're setting ourselves up for something that we don't need to be set up for because from the very beginning,
+
+02:11:32.800 --> 02:11:35.800
+transfection was already wholly inappropriate for healthy humans.
+
+02:11:35.800 --> 02:11:41.800
+But I understand your question. I don't really have a good answer. I just talked a long time and didn't really answer it probably.
+
+02:11:42.800 --> 02:11:55.800
+Okay, thanks. And just as on the side, if you ever get a chance to talk with Jason McClellan who invented the spike protein that's allegedly made by the by the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, that would probably be very good.
+
+02:11:55.800 --> 02:12:03.800
+Jason McClellan, MC Capital, L-E-L-A-N from the University of Texas, Austin, and he designed it on a supercomputer called Longhorn.
+
+02:12:03.800 --> 02:12:06.800
+And I think that your discussion with him would be very beneficial.
+
+02:12:06.800 --> 02:12:09.800
+Awesome. Thanks for that tip.
+
+02:12:10.800 --> 02:12:16.800
+Well done. Thanks. Thank you, Jim. Three questions to go then, Stephen. Jonathan, welcome. Good to see you.
+
+02:12:16.800 --> 02:12:19.800
+Hi. Hi. How are you?
+
+02:12:19.800 --> 02:12:21.800
+Excellent. Hello.
+
+02:12:21.800 --> 02:12:24.800
+Hi. Can you hear me? Okay.
+
+02:12:24.800 --> 02:12:26.800
+Yep.
+
+02:12:26.800 --> 02:12:30.800
+JJ, I just wanted to...
+
+02:12:30.800 --> 02:12:40.800
+Somebody, one of my colleagues in heart actually poured me a question to ask, which was really about the book, about the RFK book.
+
+02:12:40.800 --> 02:12:50.800
+Because the title of the RFK book, obviously, it suggests that its theme is very much a counter to your view.
+
+02:12:50.800 --> 02:12:56.800
+I mean, yeah, we're talking about the Wuhan cover-up and the bio-weapons arms race, et cetera, et cetera.
+
+02:12:56.800 --> 02:13:04.800
+So presumably your contribution, your chapter, is very much at odds with the overall thrust of the book.
+
+02:13:04.800 --> 02:13:12.800
+And I was curious to know how hard it was to convince the RFK to include that material,
+
+02:13:12.800 --> 02:13:16.800
+whether there was any form of negotiation or...
+
+02:13:16.800 --> 02:13:25.800
+I mean, it's very good that your views, which of course I completely concur with, are in there because it acts as a counterweight to the overall thrust of the book.
+
+02:13:25.800 --> 02:13:37.800
+But are you sort of optimistic that your message can cut through the overall theme of the book, which is that we need to stop getting a function of research because of what it did?
+
+02:13:38.800 --> 02:13:43.800
+So I don't know how successful I will be, but I'm going to show you this here. This is the index.
+
+02:13:43.800 --> 02:13:46.800
+And you see Jonathan Cooe here in all the places where they quote me.
+
+02:13:46.800 --> 02:13:51.800
+And then you'll notice up above there's all the references to coronaviruses.
+
+02:13:51.800 --> 02:14:03.800
+And I'm pretty much in every one of those sections providing an alternative to the narrative of gain of function being useful in that way.
+
+02:14:03.800 --> 02:14:21.800
+But I do need to put a caveat out there that it became very clear early on that I was going to be allowed to put my counter narrative in there, but also Bobby's objective was to keep this a sort of historical document of what people claimed.
+
+02:14:21.800 --> 02:14:25.800
+And that was the rubric that was running through my head.
+
+02:14:25.800 --> 02:14:37.800
+So when I insert into the book, I'm always inserting another way to interpret this, or if you listen to these words carefully, they're admitting this is a limitation, but then they're exaggerating the threat.
+
+02:14:37.800 --> 02:14:49.800
+To be honest, I feel very good that if you take all the things that I put in the book and you just cut them out and put them in sequence, it's actually pretty extraordinary what I managed to get in there.
+
+02:14:49.800 --> 02:14:56.800
+But the way that it's scattered throughout the book, it's still going to come off as one of a plethora of possibilities.
+
+02:14:56.800 --> 02:15:09.800
+And since 500 pages are devoted to bioweapons and only eight index things are devoted to biological posits, you can rest assured that this is exactly how I used it in my chat.
+
+02:15:10.800 --> 02:15:37.800
+It's just another compilation of what I think we should interpret as a long drawn out process to in secret try to discover as much of biology as we can, while creating this hypothetical threat that requires a never ending public health state, because they knew that at some point this was going to be the only way that they were going to make progress.
+
+02:15:38.800 --> 02:15:44.800
+And I think they knew that already long ago with the special virus cancer program or special cancer, whatever it's called.
+
+02:15:44.800 --> 02:15:49.800
+They've known it since AIDS. They've known that they're going to need to make this transition.
+
+02:15:49.800 --> 02:15:59.800
+I've shown a video from a guy by the name of Brzoski, who's talking about how, you know, we've used live attenuated vaccines to do this, all this other stuff.
+
+02:16:00.800 --> 02:16:16.800
+Now we're going to make vaccines for chronic disease. And that's not an equivalent biologically, but it is in their illusion that vaccines, we can tweak the immune system to cure anything, you know, a vaccine for for diabetes isn't theory possible with this kind of mythology.
+
+02:16:16.800 --> 02:16:18.800
+I think that's where they've taken us.
+
+02:16:18.800 --> 02:16:23.800
+And I will agree with you wholeheartedly that it was a struggle.
+
+02:16:23.800 --> 02:16:27.800
+I mean, it consumed us for nine months, almost a year.
+
+02:16:27.800 --> 02:16:42.800
+And, and there were a few times when, when I wasn't happy, but I can confirm now that I've held the book that everything that I, I got in there before the final edit is still in there. So now we just have to teach it, I think.
+
+02:16:42.800 --> 02:16:44.800
+Well, thank you. Thanks for your time.
+
+02:16:44.800 --> 02:16:46.800
+By the way, I sent you an email earlier.
+
+02:16:46.800 --> 02:16:49.800
+I read it and I'm really happy you did. Thank you.
+
+02:16:50.800 --> 02:17:01.800
+All right. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Jonathan. Two questions. John, John B. John. Was it the Sloot? John B. Well, go call you. He came on the Sloot? John B.
+
+02:17:01.800 --> 02:17:03.800
+Grandpa.
+
+02:17:03.800 --> 02:17:09.800
+You look so handsome with your hair grown out. I haven't seen you in a while. You look 10 years younger, man.
+
+02:17:09.800 --> 02:17:15.800
+Oh, thanks. Yeah. I haven't been this long and maybe, I don't know, 15 years, 20.
+
+02:17:15.800 --> 02:17:21.800
+Yeah. I haven't had time to do it. Hey, how are you? I'm okay, man. Good to see you.
+
+02:17:21.800 --> 02:17:23.800
+It's your book. Is your book done yet?
+
+02:17:23.800 --> 02:17:37.800
+Books been done since May. It's the editing and all the other crap finding a publisher and I couldn't find a publisher who wants to even pick it up. I finally found one. So we're looking at December shipping. It'll be on Amazon pre-order in a week.
+
+02:17:37.800 --> 02:17:46.800
+But I got the Minnesota memorandum coming out. That's not going to be for everybody. It's a notice of criminal liability for a murder.
+
+02:17:46.800 --> 02:17:53.800
+To the CDC FDA, NIH, all the directors, underlings, it'll go to six state attorneys general.
+
+02:17:53.800 --> 02:17:59.800
+And hopefully, hopefully it'll get before the Florida grand jury. It's 100 pages of hard facts.
+
+02:17:59.800 --> 02:18:06.800
+And 150 pages of graphs, 400 graphs, Minnesota and Massachusetts, really comprehensive.
+
+02:18:06.800 --> 02:18:11.800
+But hey, what do they want to ask or say or ask?
+
+02:18:11.800 --> 02:18:16.800
+Oh, with regard to the whole plasma thing.
+
+02:18:16.800 --> 02:18:25.800
+The, you know, I don't, you know, I don't do biology. I just, you know, my eyes glaze over, but where it comes to law.
+
+02:18:25.800 --> 02:18:33.800
+Just the fact that they'll find it and that the FDA didn't look for it and that they.
+
+02:18:33.800 --> 02:18:36.800
+They lied to the FDA.
+
+02:18:36.800 --> 02:18:39.800
+And no, they're not going to get away with it. I don't want to.
+
+02:18:39.800 --> 02:18:43.800
+I'm going criminal, but for all the civil lawsuits out there.
+
+02:18:43.800 --> 02:18:48.800
+It enables that stupid prep act will from his conduct exception.
+
+02:18:48.800 --> 02:18:55.800
+It's almost a slam dunk. So if they can prove it, then the floodgates are going to open for the lawsuits.
+
+02:18:56.800 --> 02:19:05.800
+So it's not really, I mean, it's stupid as a biology thing, but it's a good thing for the legal side. I just wanted to comment on that.
+
+02:19:05.800 --> 02:19:08.800
+I wouldn't be too hard on that. You know, where I stand on that. Yeah.
+
+02:19:08.800 --> 02:19:15.800
+Can I ask you a question to follow up on that? What do you think about the idea that.
+
+02:19:15.800 --> 02:19:31.800
+Ships that they can the FDA, what I explained earlier in the talk is that the FDA knows how to regulate protein biologics because when they make protein biologics, they use bacterial culture and recombinant DNA.
+
+02:19:31.800 --> 02:19:36.800
+And they know exactly how to get it out. It's a very expensive process and I and exchange chromatography.
+
+02:19:37.800 --> 02:20:00.800
+Now, the FDA knows that standard. So the argument that I see coming is that the providers of the mRNA wouldn't have to tell the FDA that they couldn't get that stuff out using the gold standard of purification because that wouldn't work to separate DNA from RNA because they're both nucleic acids.
+
+02:20:00.800 --> 02:20:08.800
+They're both charged. So the anion chromatography won't work for them. So I'm still skeptical that the FDA is just not going to go, yeah, we knew that.
+
+02:20:08.800 --> 02:20:15.800
+And this was an emergency and they knew that and this was an emergency and they said we could do it and we did it.
+
+02:20:15.800 --> 02:20:24.800
+I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just, I'm just trying to be devil's advocate and see the worst case scenarios being them just going, yeah, we knew that, but it was a pandemic.
+
+02:20:25.800 --> 02:20:35.800
+That's a good point. That's a good point. But where it comes to what is codified, it doesn't matter if they say, yeah, we knew that or they knew that or we knew that they knew it.
+
+02:20:35.800 --> 02:20:46.800
+All the talk and the bullshit excuses don't matter if something's codified in one, they didn't do it. So, I mean, we know that the FDA is complicit in a reco conspiracy.
+
+02:20:47.800 --> 02:20:55.800
+It's not the drug manufacturers alone. They'll do all kinds of stuff if you let them get away with it. It's the FDA that's letting them get away with it.
+
+02:20:55.800 --> 02:21:04.800
+But when it comes to these stupid legal loopholes and nuances, I think this is going to be a good one.
+
+02:21:04.800 --> 02:21:14.800
+And I don't know the law well enough, but in speaking to Warner, I went down to Florida last Saturday and did that.
+
+02:21:14.800 --> 02:21:26.800
+John Lattelle is a really great guy. They had 800 people. 800 people went to that thing. I mean, the COVID litigators conference was 200. I thought that was big.
+
+02:21:26.800 --> 02:21:36.800
+It 800. Amazing. So I'll stop and let Tessa ask a question, but yeah, just look from the legal perspective and let's talk more soon.
+
+02:21:36.800 --> 02:21:42.800
+I haven't done much of anything. I'm trying to get this book done. I'm just exhausted.
+
+02:21:42.800 --> 02:21:52.800
+Now it's time for a book tour, so we've got to get on my show. Oh, I know. I know. I'm scared. It's going to be so much time. Right. Sorry. I'll be quiet.
+
+02:21:52.800 --> 02:21:58.800
+John, John, you're exhausted because all that energy's gone into the growing that here. It's quite clear.
+
+02:21:58.800 --> 02:22:02.800
+It's not curling here. It's growing over here.
+
+02:22:02.800 --> 02:22:10.800
+Well, then on your work and congratulations on getting that point. We look forward to the book. All right, Tessa and then Steven, and then we're done.
+
+02:22:10.800 --> 02:22:22.800
+Well, thank you. JJ, you're wonderful as usual, and it's good to see you again. And I apologize. I've been dealing with major targets hacking for like a couple of months now. So if I can stay in line for a couple of hours, it's a miracle and I couldn't.
+
+02:22:22.800 --> 02:22:33.800
+So I have a question in the comment adjacent to what she was saying, and it kind of touches upon what JJ you and I were talking about. I think when I interviewed you a while ago.
+
+02:22:33.800 --> 02:22:44.800
+So I've been working on this theory for over a year, and I have to say met with some opposition and my life became difficult when I touched upon that, which makes me think maybe there's some truth to that.
+
+02:22:44.800 --> 02:22:54.800
+So the theory is twofold. And by the way, Steven, I tried to email you. I don't know what we're going to talk. And then I don't know if you got the rest of my emails because my emails disappear too.
+
+02:22:55.800 --> 02:23:13.800
+So twofold. One, what was COVID? And I think a lot of COVID symptoms had to do with latent infections, bacterial parasitic fungal. And there's tremendous amount of literature to the fact of COVID lungs, for example, the classic opaque, you know, the broken glass lung.
+
+02:23:13.800 --> 02:23:31.800
+There is farmers lung, which is molds, there's toxo, there's bacteria. And so my theory is that whatever happened in 2020, and it could be many things. It could be 5G. It could be by weapon or not. It could be stress. It could be God knows what any amount of things.
+
+02:23:31.800 --> 02:23:40.800
+It kicked into high gear. The latent infections that people lived with for years, perhaps not very happily, but they could handle and then something happened they could not handle anymore.
+
+02:23:40.800 --> 02:23:56.800
+And there could be spike protein. I'm not considered an expert in spike protein. So I cannot attest to that. But even without it, there's plenty of reasons. But then the other part of it is it has large, very large communications implications.
+
+02:23:56.800 --> 02:24:09.800
+And that would be wild contaminations outside of transfections, which is, of course, genetic modification of anything. It's a horror of forest. I think we're all agreeing that on many, many grounds.
+
+02:24:09.800 --> 02:24:26.800
+But the theory that I was working on and desperately trying to get help to test the vials for a range of things is that if proven, and I think it's true, it would give us great ability to communicate to mainstream people.
+
+02:24:27.800 --> 02:24:41.800
+And it has to do with contamination of vials with very earthly organisms, bacteria, parasites, molds, and Garth Nicholson, for example, is working on, you know, for many years on micro plasma contaminations.
+
+02:24:42.800 --> 02:24:53.800
+And again, if it is proven that, for example, those things are in the vials, and let's not forget, there have been recalls, official recalls of J&J for molds.
+
+02:24:53.800 --> 02:25:01.800
+They were called over view in doses, then there were reports of actual molds found in the room where Pfizer and Moderna vaccines were prepared.
+
+02:25:01.800 --> 02:25:07.800
+And I think it goes way back. I think it's not limited to COVID injections. I think it goes way, way, way back to traditional injections.
+
+02:25:07.800 --> 02:25:16.800
+And there's vast literature linking those various bugs to neurological symptoms to even sudden death, cardiac death, and many, many things.
+
+02:25:16.800 --> 02:25:34.800
+So if that can be proven that those things potentially at least in some vials, then it gives us great opportunity to talk to a New York Times reader, because plasmid, for example, they're probably there, and it's probably horrible, but it's a cryptic word.
+
+02:25:34.800 --> 02:25:49.800
+But if you tell them, by the way, molds were injected into your parents arm, and that's why biologically it's easy to prove that's why they're having those neurological symptoms, for example, that's a whole different story in terms of communication.
+
+02:25:49.800 --> 02:25:55.800
+So, J&J, I would love to hear your thoughts about that.
+
+02:25:56.800 --> 02:26:17.800
+So, I don't discount the idea that transfection is going to weaken your immune system. There's a paper, at least one from the Netherlands, that showed that there's a differential immune activation after transfection that changes the response to bacterial and fungal antigens.
+
+02:26:17.800 --> 02:26:20.800
+So I don't think that the idea is wrong.
+
+02:26:22.800 --> 02:26:35.800
+It's just difficult for me to, it would be difficult for me to justify putting too much emphasis on that, only because I don't want to confuse people.
+
+02:26:36.800 --> 02:26:52.800
+And if I have somebody's ear, the thing that I try to focus on is that first line, that if transfection was done in a craft brew, you know, perfect way, it would still be a terrible thing to do to your children.
+
+02:26:52.800 --> 02:26:56.800
+It would be a terrible thing to do to your grandmother if you wanted to be around another 20 years.
+
+02:26:56.800 --> 02:27:07.800
+It would be a terrible thing to use under the hubris that these people who are advocating for its use understand the consequences of it.
+
+02:27:07.800 --> 02:27:25.800
+And so, if these are contaminated, it's an addition, but I don't think it's something that we can lead with, but I would not discourage you from doing it simply because we should throw as much to the wall.
+
+02:27:26.800 --> 02:27:29.800
+As we can in whatever sticks we should all push.
+
+02:27:29.800 --> 02:27:32.800
+But it's a lot more variables then.
+
+02:27:32.800 --> 02:27:37.800
+And then there's a lot more tests that need to be done and a lot more investigation that needs to happen.
+
+02:27:37.800 --> 02:27:53.800
+I have no doubt in my mind that anything like this that you described and haven't listed but could add to this list would just be better in terms of creating the confusion and uncertainty and doubt that everybody needs in order to be hustled into this assumption
+
+02:27:53.800 --> 02:27:58.800
+that, well, we made a lot of mistakes, but this time, next time, or whatever, we're going to do it better.
+
+02:27:58.800 --> 02:28:09.800
+But I do remember you talking about that when we discussed it and I actually looked a lot into toxoplasmosis because I didn't know much about it until our interview.
+
+02:28:09.800 --> 02:28:12.800
+So, I hope that's kind of an answer.
+
+02:28:12.800 --> 02:28:14.800
+I mean, I'm not, I don't know.
+
+02:28:14.800 --> 02:28:15.800
+Thank you now.
+
+02:28:15.800 --> 02:28:16.800
+That's a good answer.
+
+02:28:16.800 --> 02:28:20.800
+I think it makes sense that each of us does what, you know, if you're most passionate about.
+
+02:28:20.800 --> 02:28:23.800
+In this case, it's a, it's a separate problem.
+
+02:28:23.800 --> 02:28:30.800
+And when I play mRNA is bad and it's bad going forward no matter what it is, but then going backwards.
+
+02:28:30.800 --> 02:28:48.800
+If vaccines are routinely contaminated with crap and various bugs that nobody tests for because the standards are really bad, then it might have greatly contributed to the dementia epidemic and autism epidemic because all of that in literature, those bugs are linked to both of that.
+
+02:28:48.800 --> 02:28:50.800
+And my fear, well, not fear.
+
+02:28:50.800 --> 02:29:07.800
+My concern is that the pharmaceutical industry know too well about this biological contamination problem going back, back, back, probably decades, 1986, and probably even before that, but they became bold after 1986.
+
+02:29:07.800 --> 02:29:09.800
+And they know they created it.
+
+02:29:09.800 --> 02:29:16.800
+And so now they're going to build a narrative saying, Oh, by the way, we have all those infections on the rise and the microbial resistance.
+
+02:29:16.800 --> 02:29:18.800
+There's another vaccine or 10 vaccines.
+
+02:29:18.800 --> 02:29:22.800
+And they probably want to cover up what they created over the decades.
+
+02:29:22.800 --> 02:29:29.800
+So looking at that angle helps to look at what has been historically done through vaccines in general.
+
+02:29:29.800 --> 02:29:36.800
+And even the best one, theoretically working well, if it's contaminated, it's going to create problems.
+
+02:29:37.800 --> 02:29:47.800
+And for a person in the mainstream, who's ears, I think we really need to defeat the great reset and all that because we can't do it in a small dissident community.
+
+02:29:47.800 --> 02:29:53.800
+The idea that they might have injected their baby with mold pathogenic bacteria.
+
+02:29:53.800 --> 02:30:03.800
+And in this case, with COVID injections that have immunosuppression built in by default, if some bad bug was injected and it went into blood.
+
+02:30:04.800 --> 02:30:08.800
+And there was immunosuppressant that came with it and it caused problems.
+
+02:30:08.800 --> 02:30:19.800
+It's a very clean explanation of problems when doesn't require conversation about genocide or the population or any of those things that they don't want to hear about.
+
+02:30:19.800 --> 02:30:28.800
+And so I think from the communication perspective, it would be and also lawsuits, as John mentioned, if that's proven that that would be really powerful.
+
+02:30:28.800 --> 02:30:31.800
+All right, we'll take that as a comment, Tessa, we've got to go.
+
+02:30:31.800 --> 02:30:34.800
+Stephen, thank you, Tessa.
+
+02:30:34.800 --> 02:30:39.800
+Each one of us has to express it as we see it, and there'll be a piece of magic that grabs it.
+
+02:30:39.800 --> 02:30:41.800
+So each one of us has to keep assets.
+
+02:30:41.800 --> 02:30:44.800
+So, Stephen, next few minutes for you, and then we're going to finish.
+
+02:30:44.800 --> 02:30:46.800
+Thank you, Tessa.
+
+02:30:46.800 --> 02:30:57.800
+So, JJ, why do you think it is that so few people, even really good people on our side,
+
+02:30:57.800 --> 02:31:10.800
+are prepared to seem very few people I find are incapable or they don't want to consider all possibilities?
+
+02:31:10.800 --> 02:31:13.800
+It's a very easy explanation for that.
+
+02:31:13.800 --> 02:31:20.800
+I'm sorry that it has to be such an easy explanation, but I am absolutely, I would bet my whole family on it,
+
+02:31:20.800 --> 02:31:28.800
+that people like Peter McCullough, people like Pierre Corey, that spoke out very early, were given two options.
+
+02:31:28.800 --> 02:31:38.800
+Either you shut up about most of this stuff and sell a book about this and talk about this stuff or will ruin your life.
+
+02:31:38.800 --> 02:31:41.800
+And we'll give this opportunity to someone else.
+
+02:31:41.800 --> 02:31:43.800
+This is a national security priority.
+
+02:31:43.800 --> 02:31:51.800
+You'd have no idea what we could potentially be facing, and the American apparatus needs your help.
+
+02:31:51.800 --> 02:31:52.800
+So here's the deal.
+
+02:31:52.800 --> 02:31:54.800
+This is the list of things you can talk about.
+
+02:31:54.800 --> 02:31:57.800
+This is the list of things you will not question.
+
+02:31:57.800 --> 02:31:59.800
+If you stick to this list, you're going to be fine.
+
+02:31:59.800 --> 02:32:03.800
+You're going to be a famous guy, and you'll be one of the leaders that gets us out of this.
+
+02:32:03.800 --> 02:32:12.800
+If you don't stick to this list, we'll ruin your career, we'll burn your family, and you'll never work in a reasonable place in the medical field again.
+
+02:32:12.800 --> 02:32:15.800
+And they gave that offer to lots of people that spoke up.
+
+02:32:15.800 --> 02:32:18.800
+They gave that offer to lots of people on substack.
+
+02:32:18.800 --> 02:32:24.800
+They gave that offer to lots of people who took the job in 2021 and said, oh yeah, I can cover that.
+
+02:32:24.800 --> 02:32:27.800
+And voila, here we are.
+
+02:32:27.800 --> 02:32:32.800
+A bunch of people who all have a very specific job stopping and starting the train.
+
+02:32:32.800 --> 02:32:35.800
+And that performance has all different people.
+
+02:32:35.800 --> 02:32:43.800
+Some of them are using a broom, and some of them are using rope, and some of them are working together and pulling on each other.
+
+02:32:43.800 --> 02:32:46.800
+And it all becomes this very convincing dance.
+
+02:32:46.800 --> 02:32:56.800
+But as long as they don't question the fact that the train's on a schedule, that the engine's working, that the brakes working, and somebody's driving it, then the illusion continues.
+
+02:32:56.800 --> 02:33:10.800
+But JJ, don't you think that the people that we're talking about who won't consider all possibilities and certainly won't talk about them, that they didn't need?
+
+02:33:10.800 --> 02:33:15.800
+I'm not sure whether they didn't need much convincing, because human beings are like that.
+
+02:33:15.800 --> 02:33:18.800
+I wouldn't have needed much convincing.
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+02:33:18.800 --> 02:33:26.800
+If they would have come to me when I was riding my bicycle and talking about lab leak and said, we need your help, and you're going to go on the Joel Rogan show in six months.
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+02:33:26.800 --> 02:33:34.800
+If you keep focused on the lab leak, do you think that I would not have been vulnerable to that level of ego and fame attack?
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+02:33:34.800 --> 02:33:40.800
+This would have been lost for me, and I would have been a hero and gladly taken it.
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+02:33:40.800 --> 02:33:43.800
+Part of the reason why this didn't happen is because I was not offered.
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+02:33:43.800 --> 02:34:01.800
+There's a very fine line between being able to see through it and being bamboozled by it, and if they pulled up and said, we're going to take care of your family, you're going to be great, you know, Alex Berenson, we're going to censor you, and then you can sue Twitter, and then we'll make you famous.
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+02:34:01.800 --> 02:34:14.800
+I mean, they could have offered that to anyone. They didn't offer it to me, but I guarantee you they offered it to people even before the pandemic that have risen to artificial prominence.
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+02:34:14.800 --> 02:34:26.800
+Yeah, but somehow, I think you would agree that the lack of interest in the whole picture, as it were, you know, so, yeah, I don't want to name names.
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+02:34:26.800 --> 02:34:37.800
+Yeah, but I can't see that as being, that can't be random. That has to be orchestrated. It is people choosing not to encroach on certain parts of the narrative.
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+02:34:37.800 --> 02:34:44.800
+But JJ, so for me anyway, that tells me that they're not authentic.
+
+02:34:44.800 --> 02:34:51.800
+So they have their specialty, you know, so Peter McCullough, for example, is a cardiologist.
+
+02:34:51.800 --> 02:35:02.800
+But Peter McCullough has made progress. Peter McCullough did not say until a month ago that if he was honest and an apparent nowadays he would forego the vaccine schedule.
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+02:35:02.800 --> 02:35:09.800
+You understand that that is something that that if he would have said that in 2020, he would have been off the charts.
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+02:35:09.800 --> 02:35:17.800
+Do you understand that Meryl Nass and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of Children's Health Defense that I now work for?
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+02:35:17.800 --> 02:35:35.800
+That this book is being put out. Let's be very honest. You can't find one place ever where Bobby Kennedy or Meryl Nass two prominent members or spokespersons in the past for Children's Health Defense have never said that we should forego the vaccine schedule in America.
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+02:35:35.800 --> 02:35:42.800
+They've never said it, even though they're an organization full of women and men and injured people that believe that.
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+02:35:42.800 --> 02:36:00.800
+And the only person who I know in our immediate circle is Peter McCullough, Pierre Corey, and Tess Laura, who have all very recently in podcasts or in interviews said that, you know, I didn't think I would be here, but I don't think I would take any more vaccines.
+
+02:36:00.800 --> 02:36:12.800
+And this is a statement that very few people have made. I don't think that precludes the possibility that some of those people are not working for the opposition in it.
+
+02:36:12.800 --> 02:36:19.800
+But if they're good people, then their soul is broken, their heart is broken, and they're doing what they can.
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+02:36:20.800 --> 02:36:34.800
+And I think that with Peter, he doesn't question the novel virus and that millions of people died, but he's willing to go out on a limb and say that young parents, you know, I wouldn't do the vaccine schedule. That's magnificent.
+
+02:36:34.800 --> 02:36:49.800
+And remember, I'm suggesting that a van pulled up at his house in 2020 when he was coming out about hydroxychloroquine, not swelling hearts and saying that his technician and held more hearts in her hand than anyone had ever held in history.
+
+02:36:51.800 --> 02:36:58.800
+And according to her that hydroxychloroquine doesn't make swollen hearts, at that stage, he was a danger.
+
+02:36:59.800 --> 02:37:11.800
+And they came to him and gave him instructions and it's not making him a bad guy because if they didn't give it to him, they'll give it to somebody else. And he's just, I feel like he's just trying to do what he can and not.
+
+02:37:11.800 --> 02:37:31.800
+So, JJ, why did Peter McCullough, for example, since you mentioned him, why did he go along with the clearly false narrative, as far as I'm concerned, of the false diagnosis of not only COVID-19, but also the Delta variant and then the Alpha variant.
+
+02:37:31.800 --> 02:37:47.800
+I mean, it's a national security issue. We don't know what brief he got. We don't know what they scared him with. Did they tell him that it was going to be a billion people dead? Did he get a secret briefing that said the likelihood of a billion people dying is about 50%.
+
+02:37:47.800 --> 02:38:02.800
+And how long would it take if three guys in suits showed up in Pittsburgh and came to my stream room and said, Jonathan, we want to talk to you. We take you very seriously as a thinker and we want you to help us protect the American public and the Western society in general.
+
+02:38:02.800 --> 02:38:16.800
+The whole earth is in danger because what our worst fears are is a gain of function virus escaping is actually true. We're not sure if it came from Uzbekistan or whether it's from our own labs in Ukraine, but we know for sure that this is in circulation.
+
+02:38:16.800 --> 02:38:31.800
+We've got a big problem. We need your help. How much lying and exaggeration would they do with three guys in fancy suits and little things in their ear before I would basically poop my pants and say, well, tell me what I got to do.
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+02:38:31.800 --> 02:38:50.800
+I can't stress to you how important it is to not underestimate how aggressive they were with this. They were on Hollywood sets in 2020, vaccinating people with specially pure vaccine that they told Hollywood people they were at their Christmas parties in 2020
+
+02:38:50.800 --> 02:39:04.800
+with really rich Hollywood celebrities with private stock vaccines, giving it to people so that they would be on board before the public rollout ever happened. You know they did that at TV stations all around the United States too.
+
+02:39:05.800 --> 02:39:12.800
+So, JJ, why was Peter McCullough allowed to say what he did say recently then in your opinion?
+
+02:39:12.800 --> 02:39:22.800
+Again, I think that one of the most important things in my mind is that to see that this is a controlled demolition of America. They were never not going to tell the truth.
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+02:39:22.800 --> 02:39:30.800
+They were just going to tell the truth in such a slow role manner that all of the people that weren't paying attention would be trapped.
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+02:39:30.800 --> 02:39:38.800
+So, they're going to eventually admit that the vaccine schedule was a mistake. They're going to eventually admit that the FDA and the CDC are responsible for it.
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+02:39:38.800 --> 02:39:45.800
+They're definitely going to admit that the American government is in complete shambles and that America should be essentially rebooted.
+
+02:39:45.800 --> 02:39:53.800
+That's the whole plan. Our dollar is about to be destroyed. They're about to bring in digital ID that they've already got in the European Union.
+
+02:39:53.800 --> 02:40:03.800
+These are all parts of a plan that, quite frankly, I'm absolutely convinced that this is just one stream of consciousness for them.
+
+02:40:03.800 --> 02:40:18.800
+And this is just a slow role and imagine if you were told that on the other side of this operation, you're going to have comfort and you're going to have fame and you're going to have power because when the CDs, CDs, the digital IDs are rolled in
+
+02:40:18.800 --> 02:40:24.800
+and when the digital currency is rolled in, you're going to be on the right team. You're going to be on the winning team.
+
+02:40:24.800 --> 02:40:31.800
+When the shortages happen, when the food shortages happen, when the food lines occur, you're going to be on the right team.
+
+02:40:31.800 --> 02:40:36.800
+These people could have been warned. I mean, all right, that's very good.
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+02:40:37.800 --> 02:40:45.800
+I think that some of these people, they kind of expose themselves by their lack of authenticity.
+
+02:40:45.800 --> 02:40:54.800
+And I've always thought that, for example, the leader of the founder of World Council for Health, the ridiculously named World Council for Health,
+
+02:40:55.800 --> 02:41:02.800
+they're chilactors, authenticity, but they get attacked for seeing that sort of interesting thing.
+
+02:41:02.800 --> 02:41:05.800
+I don't need to say that. On the go, we don't need to attack each other now.
+
+02:41:05.800 --> 02:41:16.800
+We will finish JJ and Stephen. I remind you of one of our speakers, Stephen, you might remember who, and I think it's a salutary point to close this conversation.
+
+02:41:16.800 --> 02:41:27.800
+Are you willing to suffer for your truth? I don't expect an answer. That's the question. That's the question.
+
+02:41:27.800 --> 02:41:33.800
+You look at history and that's for each one of us. That's the self-awareness journey.
+
+02:41:33.800 --> 02:41:38.800
+Do I believe in this and therefore I'm willing to suffer and have my family suffer?
+
+02:41:38.800 --> 02:41:47.800
+Good luck with your introspection, JJ. Brilliant work as usual. Thank you for the great questions, everybody.
+
+02:41:47.800 --> 02:41:58.800
+That's just the point. You said each of us, they shouldn't attack each other. That is the problem that we need to know that we can actually trust certain people.
+
+02:41:59.800 --> 02:42:07.800
+Look at how many spouses have been cheating on their husbands for years and never been spouses.
+
+02:42:07.800 --> 02:42:14.800
+You can't make that judgement. You just go... No, I don't agree. I don't agree. You can make that.
+
+02:42:14.800 --> 02:42:19.800
+Look, we're not going to have that conversation. I've been married three times. I'm a better expert than you are.
+
+02:42:19.800 --> 02:42:22.800
+No, I'm not talking about marriage. I'm talking about it.
+
+02:42:23.800 --> 02:42:28.800
+You're saying, how can you possibly trust me? You're trying to shout me down.
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+02:42:28.800 --> 02:42:35.800
+I am, because we're finishing. We're not having this debate. You do know when you can trust people.
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+02:42:35.800 --> 02:42:41.800
+No, you don't. You believe, but you don't know. You believe.
+
+02:42:41.800 --> 02:42:48.800
+The difference. At least thinking about the possibility of being led astray is important.
+
+02:42:49.800 --> 02:42:53.800
+Thank you very much for the opportunity to speak. Thank you very much.
+
+02:42:53.800 --> 02:42:56.800
+Thank you, Jay. Thank you, David. Thank you, everybody.
+
+02:42:58.800 --> 02:43:05.800
+I think we're leaving. That's it. Yeah. It's okay. Thank you very much for joining me, everybody. I'm going to get a break.
+
+02:43:05.800 --> 02:43:11.800
+This has been GigaOM Biological, a high-resistance, low-noise information brief, brought to you by a biologist.
+
+02:43:11.800 --> 02:43:14.800
+Why is it that coming out?
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+02:43:14.800 --> 02:43:23.800
+It's not coming out. Why is it not coming out? I don't see that.
+
+02:43:23.800 --> 02:43:28.800
+Why is that not working?
+
+02:43:28.800 --> 02:43:33.800
+If I go over here, does it work?
+
+02:43:34.800 --> 02:43:39.800
+That's weird.
+
+02:43:39.800 --> 02:43:46.800
+I hope that was okay to stop all transfections and humans, because they're trying to eliminate the control group by enemies necessary.
+
+02:43:46.800 --> 02:43:53.800
+And you can find me at GigaOM Biological.com, where you can subscribe and support the channel and support my work.
+
+02:43:53.800 --> 02:43:59.800
+And you can also participate in whatever limited conversation you have at GigaOM by .bile,
+
+02:43:59.800 --> 02:44:07.800
+where Jessica Hockett actually just became a member, which is pretty cool. That's some serious celebrity, uh, celebrity fediverse.
+
+02:44:07.800 --> 02:44:14.800
+Anyway, everybody that's in this stream, 118 people, wow, thank you very much for spending your time with me today.
+
+02:44:14.800 --> 02:44:21.800
+Um, tomorrow I have Jay Bottacharia at 1 o'clock in the afternoon, and then Peter McCullough at 6 p.m.
+
+02:44:21.800 --> 02:44:30.800
+Um, so I'm going to be spread, spread the thin, like mayonnaise over too much bread, but I'm going to do my best to stay hydrated and get it done.
+
+02:44:30.800 --> 02:44:36.800
+So, uh, I'll see you tomorrow.
+
+02:44:36.800 --> 02:44:40.800
+What did I want to do that? I wanted to do that. Sorry, I did that out of order.
+
+02:44:40.800 --> 02:44:42.800
+Thanks, guys.
+
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+Go test 1-2, testing 1-2, finally have a little show here, I hope this sound is all
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+coming through.
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+If you're in the chat it would be great for a little help on the audio visual.
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+You can also check this, if you don't mind, see if we're all kind of in sync on the live
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+stream, that would be really handy, perfect says Pamela, good to see you, good to see you.
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+I'm going to do this without headphones today too, so if you can give me any feedback on
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+my volume that would be great, or Jay's volume for that matter.
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+In case you're unaware, and Jay is definitely unaware, I was a patch plant physiologist
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+who was raised to make slices of animals brains, and I had Vivo, I scored them for
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+a few hours, and while I did that I would record pairs or groups of neurons under the
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+microscope, and also use transfection to control surrounding neurons with optogenetics.
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+So I'm pretty familiar with how transfection can be used in academic medicine, academic
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+investigation, how you can manipulate individual neurons, drive it by genes, you can look
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+me up on the internet, Jonathan, who you are, PubMed.
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+So today we have a special guest, Jay Bhattacharya.
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+The bifurcation of Earth is, he's a very special guy with regard to that.
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+Remember that if you're not familiar with him, he is a professor of health policy at
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+Stanford University, and a research associate at the National Bureau of Economics Research.
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+He directs Stanford's Center for Demography and Economics of Health and Aging.
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+His research focuses on the health and well-being of vulnerable populations, with a particular
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+emphasis on the role of government programs, biomedical innovation, and economics.
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+Recent research also focuses on the epidemiology of COVID-19, as well as an evaluation of policy
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+responses to the epidemic.
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+His broader research interests encompass the implications of population aging for future
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+population health, which I have listed as a must-ask question.
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+The medical spending in developed countries, the measurement of physician performance tied
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+to physician payment by insurers, that's a crazy one.
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+The role played by biomedical innovation on health, he has published 135 articles, and
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+top peer-reviewed scientific journals in medicine, oh, I can be over here, can I, yes, I can.
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+He published that, yes, scientific journals in medicine, economics, health policy, epidemiology,
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+statistics, law, and public health, among other fields, he holds an MD and a PhD in economics
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+and book.
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+MD and a PhD in economics, I almost thought it was an MD in economics for a minute there,
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+and both earned at Stanford University, so let me see if I can cut this out like that.
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+Oh, there you are, hello, sir.
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+Thank you very much for joining me.
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+I hope that introduction wasn't too, that's like 2-2-2-3-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-3-2-2.
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+You left a community, which is I'm a fringe epidemiologist, that's what I thought.
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+That's right.
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+That's right.
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+Fringe epidemiologist, he says.
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+So, let's talk about being a fringe epidemiologist.
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+That first question kind of peels right into that, so how did this great Barrington declaration
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+inform was it from a poker group or are you guys all aficionados of the same dog breed or how did
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+that happen? So it's a it's it's it's a little bit of a random thing like I got to know Martin
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+Koldorf in the summer of 2020 because my friend Scott Atlas who was also at Stanford had been
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+invited by by President Trump to be his COVID advisor. Scott tried to like organize a meeting
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+inside the White House with me Martin and a few other scientists to try to talk to Trump about
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+lockdowns, school closures, Debbie Birx and and Tony Fauci tried to block that. It took for and
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+it took a like basically finally at the end of August, middle of August, I think,
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+we he got permissioned for us to go visit the White House and that's why I met Martin Koldorf
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+at the at the footsteps of the White House. Wow. Martin had been a guy known about him because
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+he is an amazing statistician. I work on I've been working on vaccine safety actually with the FDA
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+and he Martin had developed the statistical infrastructure for how to track vaccine
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+vaccine injuries in with with a real time surveillance. Anyway, so I met Martin, we hit it off
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+immediately at the foot first up the White House and I mean we started writing we wrote a couple
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+op-eds together. One day in late September, Martin calls me up and says, Jay, do you want to come
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+to have a little conference? What we'll do is we'll we'll invite some journalists and we'll invite
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+Sinatra Gupta from Oxford who I I mean I've been mired her forever and I never met her before
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+we'll invite the three of us will go meet with some journalists and try to tell them about the
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+epidemiology of of lockdowns the harms of lockdowns. In fact, that's exactly what we told President
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+Trump. We told that the President Trump that closing schools was a really bad idea was hurting
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+children that the evidence from Sweden was that it wasn't particularly effective at stopping this
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+rather than whatever the disease was and so like that there was a really bad idea to close schools
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+and that you needed to protect older people better like the basically the idea of a great
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+branch decoration and so we met in western Massachusetts very close to where Martin lives
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+and it's a town I never heard of before so when we when I arrived I it was like you know actually
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+this was like in the middle of a crazy lockdown in New York and and it felt it felt really illicit
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+like I got to fly across country and and on the drive-in I asked the the the the driver was
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+driving you what the name of the town was never heard of it before because it said Great Barrington
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+and so when we met we just we weren't like actually thinking about writing we were going to write
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+like a declaration we were just going to talk to people talk to journalists that have invited
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+there that when we met we really cleared that we derived basically at the same place I mean
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+I thought it was like particularly novel idea like the idea that you protect vulnerable older people
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+and you don't lock down that's the way we managed every other viral pandemic last
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+respiratory viral pandemic of the last century we arrived at the same place we thought okay well
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+why don't we put out a little short statement about what we think and I came up with the name
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+Jay I've stabbed quite proud of myself because I remembered the word Great Barrington I'm like
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+that would be a great title for the declaration you know I was thinking like port here in statement
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+you know from the like the 60s or whatever I see yes and so and you know you can't tell if the
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+word Great applies to the the city or to the or to the declaration which is that I'm being
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+really fantastic and so I yeah anyways it got a lot of attention I mean almost immediately
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+it was it got a tremendous amount of attention almost a million people signed it tens of thousands
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+of doctors and scientists signed it and you know what I think the reason why it got that
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+attention was that at that point oh sorry Jake no I signed it I just wanted to say oh thank
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+I'm really grateful you are grateful to do that I mean I think that the reason why it got
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+attention is because people understood like most people really understood deep in their heart that
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+there was that what we were doing was absolute nonsense it was hurting kids it was hurting poor
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+people it was hurting vast numbers if you all these lockdowns were and it wasn't like you know
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+if the promise was it was gonna get rid of the disease well how come it was coming back in
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+October 2020 right it wasn't working and it was hurting people and it was violated civil
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+rights at scale and it was and especially the harm to kids was was pretty close to the top of my
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+mind and I have three kids and all three of them you know basically they didn't see my two of them
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+didn't see the inside of a classroom for a year and a half and the third one was in college it
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+took a long time I mean basically it felt to me like we were robbing our kids of their childhood
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+for no real purpose well imagine quite frankly this is the one thing that really scared me is
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+that imagine not having you as a father instead having somebody who can't grasp it or understand
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+the limitations or the you know explain anything and just has to go from what they get on television
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+it could bend much much what scares me the most is the idea that the children seem to watch the
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+parents lose control and that's a real dangerous sort of blanket effect of what they did with the
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+lockdown I mean you were still seeing the aftermath of that and that you're seeing like levels of
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+anxiety and depression and kids like you scare the living daylight out of them tell them that
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+they are going to kill if they just lead normal childhoods they're going to kill mom and dad or
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+grandpa grandma and so they better treat everybody as biohazard or else I mean that's going to have
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+consequences and it just has had consequences really negative ones it's just heartbreaking to go
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+watch it anyway so that's how would the great grandpa question happen we we put this out and I
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+think people were just ready to hear that that wasn't needed like I I call it the least original
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+thing I've erode j I mean I it's not like I I mean it was we were saying obvious things right
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+and and yet if people were interested because it shattered the idea that there was a consensus
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+around the lockdowns I mean that's how you impose a lockdown or or or the kinds of like
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+policies you have to like get the population to agree to be scared and to have this sense that
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+all the scientists all the wise people agree that you have to do this or else and what the great
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+branch of decoration is it shattered that consensus shattered the idea that there was a consensus
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+it because you know the consensus wasn't there right you know this right I mean I from from from
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+the beginning of the pandemic you've been you've been saying counter counter consensus things
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+and scientists if you talk to scientists you know you get a hundred opinions if you have 100
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+scientists you get 150 opinions sometimes right and so you just it was it was it was really clear
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+that to me talking to other scientists that that there wasn't a consensus and so when we put the
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+the Declaration out I think that's why it got so much attention both from the public but also from
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+scientific authorities you know scientific bureaucrats like Tony Fauci and Francis Collins
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+or Jeremy Farron in the UK they were they were for them it was a threat to their power
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+it was a threat to the idea that they that they knew best what to do and everyone better
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+listen to them or else everyone's gonna die I mean that was essentially I mean like they you know
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+they didn't say it that way but that's essentially what they were they were implying
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+and the great branch and declaration said no look other scientists have a different view or
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+proposed or thinking of different policies is better and it was a call for a conversation
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+like we were calling for focus protection it's called for conversation how best to do that
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+how do you how really do you protect older people because the idea up to then was like the
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+lockdowns were going to protect them but it didn't protect them you know lots and the older people
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+have died on the basis of the idea that lockdowns can protect them we've done really stupid things
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+right like why do we send covid why did why did New York send covid infected patients back to
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+nursing homes this happened lots of places by the way not just New York it's because the the
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+premise was that keeping hospital beds empty was more important than protecting vulnerable people
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+why did we close schools like because somehow kids were even even despite the fact that
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+Sweden you had evidence from Sweden for the spring that not closing schools didn't result
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+in a worse epidemic really I just for the especially for the teachers the the rates of death for
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+teachers was was lower than the average of the rest of the population yeah it was it was really
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+shocking oh what is this what that's ridiculous now I get they're saying my zoom meeting is going
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+to end well we can we can you know I'm signed in under the wrong account then dog on it
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+I'm gonna have to sign in different than I guess okay well we can we start though we we've recorded
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+this right so we can yeah yeah I mean it's it's this is uh it's it's fine I just him in a little
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+annoyed that I could have seen that coming I guess I thought I had longer in this don't worry
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+um I'll send you a link in like 30 seconds okay see shortly okay
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+dumb d-dum d-dum d-dum d-dum d-dum d-dum d-dum d-dum d-dum d-dum d-dum
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+dumb d-dum d-dum d-dum d-dum d-dum
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+this one is the one I paid for open zoom
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+um
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+um-d-dum d-dum d-dum d-dum
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+sorry guys I'm gonna fix this right now and then it'll be dumb
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+save and now that we've got him he said I've got a lot of time so I'm actually gonna probably
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+have to cut him short and then uh what will happen is uh
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+I'll have to switch right away for Peter McCullough which is crazy but there it goes
+
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+hopefully he'll be up very shortly I'm gonna start this meeting and then uh hopefully he'll be here
+
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+at least all the settings are right now I hope the sound is all right are we good sound is all right
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+I think this is gonna be a fun conversation um I might have to keep him here all the way till
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+six o'clock but uh I think it's gonna be a good conversation here he comes he's already back
+
+14:11.220 --> 14:18.820
+see how quick we are now we're back Jedi master level stuff there thank you sir for tolerating my
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+IT uh sure better rather than I am Jay so just uh no worries um so where were we we were I was
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+about to ask you I sort of pair up a general question that kind of segway's well in in what we
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+were talking about about the Great Bearing Declaration and where it evolved from and where it got you
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+um oh Jay can you can you can you allow me to or of course I can yes there we can
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+and so if you if that helps you at all to pick up where you left off or recording in progress
+
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+gotcha otherwise um so we were just talking about the Great Bearington Declaration you were
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+finishing kind of saying um how it evolved and and why it was important because because it gave
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+people first time this this clear uh message that there isn't a consensus that something is
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+isn't right so it's a pretty incongruent message relative to the television
+
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+um what was the in that time what was the the most common way of them trying to dismiss you
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+was it just that they don't know what they're talking about even though that was part of the
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+reason why you chose you three right as you you realize that you're let's say professional
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+standing should bring some weight so that people would be less likely to be able to dismiss you
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+well how did you how did that come out in reality versus what you expected
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+well so uh the four days after we wrote the declaration we learned this uh from foyer
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+request four days after we wrote the declaration the head of the NIH Francis Collins wrote to Tony
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+Fauci an email where he called me Martin and Sinatra of Martin Coldoff of Harvard University
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+Sinatra Gupta of Oxford University the three of us fringe epidemiologists uh that's that's
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+I got a book I got a little uh i'll see if i have like card that has the fringe epidemiologists
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+i can't find it it's a fringe epidemiologists somewhat friend of mine made a fringe epidemiology
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+card i i think i will go to my grade with that title well don't give them all the way i want one
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+of those i definitely will the next time we'll next time we meet you i will give you what i promise
+
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+um but yeah so so uh he called us fringe epidemiology then he called for devastating takedown literally
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+in an email devastating takedown the premises of the the declaration and then what started
+
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+happening was hit pieces hit pieces by the washing and post uh in fact Francis uh Tony Fauci shared
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+it and a hit piece almost immediately by wired magazine where Fauci showed up accusing us of
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+wanting to let the virus rip when we were calling for focus protection of vulnerable people um i
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+mean it was basically a propaganda campaign um in in in the uk parliament a conservative
+
+17:04.900 --> 17:12.740
+member parliament denounced uh cenetra uh there was a website that came up uh all of a sudden
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+17:12.740 --> 17:18.500
+accusing us of like saying all being you know all kinds of nasty attacks and in the British
+
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+medical journal the British medical journal published a false attack on us claiming that we
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+had financial conflicts of interest it was insane i paid my own way to great parenthood mass
+
+17:30.820 --> 17:36.580
+uses for the flight i didn't accept any money in fact jay i've taken zero dollars for any of my
+
+17:36.580 --> 17:42.500
+covid work to date i've lost money on covid um because i just don't feel right taking money in the
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+17:42.500 --> 17:47.540
+middle for when people are suffering in this way so i just i the whole thing was just they
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+17:47.540 --> 17:51.540
+and the British medical journal published it claiming that somehow that we were coke funded
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+when in fact that it was the it was like the imperial college model that led to the panic in
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+17:58.020 --> 18:03.380
+march of 2020 that was coke funded um the whole thing was just it was it was it was an absolutely
+
+18:03.380 --> 18:10.580
+disgusting ad hominem attack based on lies because the problem was they couldn't actually engage with
+
+18:10.580 --> 18:17.380
+us honestly in a discussion it's not like that is if we had all the the ideas i mean i i i you know
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+it's just where if you're a scientist you know you make a mistake let me you you're wrong a lot
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+of the time and it's the it's the process of like uh seeing what other people think looking at data
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+18:27.300 --> 18:32.100
+doing experiments that's how you learn as scientists right they didn't treat us that way they treated
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+us as if we were heretics to be expelled and excommunicated um i'd say this this wasn't it wasn't
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+even the first time like in the pandemic um in april of 2020 i had done a study in Santa Clara
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+county california um i don't know if you've seen it maybe you've seen it was it was it was a
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+study measuring antibody levels in the population a seroprevalence study and it was we done one in
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+Santa Clara county and another one in LA county shortly after that and uh you know we we used this
+
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+uh this test kit that we'd gotten from a a guy who runs uh made testing in major league baseball
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+he had ordered it um we did a lot of work to try to figure out what the false laws and
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+false negative rates were uh we were we put out a paper which i thought was a pretty careful paper
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+that there was some uh some some comments that folks folks had on twitter and elsewhere that
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+made it then we released an updated version of it in a in a in in the pre-print ultimately the
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+paper was published in the international level of epidemiology right so it's like we got the math
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+right um the hunch line for the paper from the beginning was that the disease had had spread to
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+about three percent of the population in LA county for in LA county four percent three percent
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+in in Santa Clara county um it was uh it was something like it was April early April 2020 and
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+that meant that you know there were a thousand official cases then in in in Santa Clara county
+
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+but our estimates implied 50,000 people had already been infected or at least had antibodies to the
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+19:59.860 --> 20:05.620
+to the there were specific to the SARS-CoV-2 um that meant that infections how do you rate was
+
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+not you know the the you know was the World Health Organization said 3.4 percent case fatality
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+rate our estimate was that that implied something like 0.2 percent infection fatality rate um for
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+people especially for and there was this massive age gradient with older people having much higher
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+risk um that led to hit pieces on me and on my wife and my family it led to i wasn't ready for
+
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+that my face skin wasn't this i thought my skin was thick after you know two decades in academics
+
+20:33.060 --> 20:38.260
+but it turns out what i wasn't used to uh attacks on me death threats constantly for two straight
+
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+years jay every time i appear in public every time i'd write something they there was just like
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+20:43.220 --> 20:48.740
+uh assumptions of bad faith accusations of false accusations of conflicts of money complex of
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+interest um essentially everything but actually engage with the scientific results right i i i
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+can only imagine i mean i i remember this paper um and i remember i might have even still been
+
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+on my bike when that paper came out so there might even be a later bike ride on my youtube
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+channel where i did it um but the the what my narrative would be on that or what my question
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+would be on that is um just taking notes on it so we that whole study would be on a testing kit that
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+at that time um part of the illusion of consensus i would say was that these testing kits were
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+very high fidelity with almost no false positives and appropriate to apply to anybody that was
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+suspicious of having a test or i mean having an infection and at the same time overlapping with
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+21:43.700 --> 21:50.340
+this i think biologically incorrect concept of asymptomatic spread being a very widespread
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+21:50.340 --> 21:56.820
+phenomenon and i know that at that time i couldn't iron it out i couldn't figure it out but i know
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+that there was a very concerted effort to establish the idea that you can't know if you're infected
+
+22:03.220 --> 22:09.300
+and even if you test negative on a test you could still be positive and just not know it and this
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+goes back to the you know testing before you leave campus to make sure you don't infect your
+
+22:14.260 --> 22:21.540
+grandparents it was really uh a wicked web they wove um and so i think this was really important
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+evidence that again even if you don't interpret the evidence the way that i would
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+its evidence for this illusion of consensus about well there's a new virus and it's just got here
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+and we're accurately tracking it when it that clearly brought that into question yeah i mean i
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+think um so just a couple of things like at the time there were those test kits um these were
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+for antibody test kits not the PCR test kits um and uh like on the on the PCR absolutely grew
+
+22:52.580 --> 22:58.180
+with you that the PCR was was vastly like misinterpreted and misused i don't even know what the right
+
+22:58.180 --> 23:06.500
+word is um they they they tuned the PCR test so that it was hypersensitive right so even if you had
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+uh like just fragments of dead dead virus in you it would turn positive because they they did
+
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+you know 40 doublings or whatever but a lot of 40 doublings for you a lot positive and then
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+23:18.340 --> 23:24.980
+they tied that to quarantining uh to contact tracing it was it was a it was guaranteed to create
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+this the idea that the virus is is everywhere and that you are at risk of spreading it from to
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+23:30.820 --> 23:36.100
+everyone and um and you better you know and and essentially create panic and fear i wrote a piece
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+in uh in the summer of 2020 arguing against contact tracing on basically with that as the main premise
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+23:43.300 --> 23:49.620
+the premise being that the contact tracing um was identifying many people who are not really at
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+risk of spreading the disease causing untold harm to the especially the children um and uh the
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+that and that it was an inappropriate tool for trying to control the spread of a of a of a
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+respiratory virus i mean a contact tracing maybe could work for HIV because you know who you had
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+sex with but you don't you're really hard to tell who you breathe next to breathe near or
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+breathe in the same room as um and so the idea that you could you could like get uh you could stop
+
+24:17.540 --> 24:21.940
+the spread of the disease this way with this testing was insane but i just a quick thing
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+about the antibody test at the time in april 2020 it's basically impossible to get the antibody
+
+24:26.260 --> 24:31.220
+test um it was kind of a unique thing that we were wondering about that actually you said major
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+league baseball so you had some kind of hookup otherwise you wouldn't have been i mean it was
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+24:35.140 --> 24:39.060
+it was actually just completely serendipitous jay so like what happened was that i wrote an
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+op-ed in march of 2020 in the waltz v journal saying that we didn't know how deadly the disease
+
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+was we didn't know how widespread it was and effectively calling for a sera prevalent study i
+
+24:50.100 --> 24:56.180
+figured the cdc would run it um the cdc didn't run it so much later uh what happened instead
+
+24:56.340 --> 25:01.220
+was that there was a man who runs uh testing for for uh you know steroid testing for major league
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+baseball he had had the foresight to order a bunch of antibody tests from this chinese company
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+and uh he when he saw that op-ed he called me up or called me and my colleagues up and said look
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+i i don't want to use this to make money i'd rather use it for science and so he offered up those
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+tests which i never would i would have access to to run this study we we organized that study
+
+25:23.140 --> 25:27.540
+within the matter of a couple of weeks um it was it was it was it would normally it would take
+
+25:27.540 --> 25:31.620
+a year to organize a study like right just getting everything in place it was it was really just it
+
+25:31.620 --> 25:36.420
+was it was quite something to get uh like quite a feat of of like logistics to like get everything
+
+25:36.420 --> 25:43.140
+together um and the results were right like a hundred other groups then replicated the result
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+25:43.140 --> 25:48.340
+that we got uh that as far as the false positive rate for that test the way we measured it was first
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+25:48.820 --> 25:52.420
+that the the manufacturer had done some rest asked him as the false positive but they've
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+done is they've taken blood stored blood from 2018 or something and run the the blood the blood on
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+25:58.740 --> 26:04.980
+the uh run the run the test on that stored blood from 2018 and they found a false positive rate of
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+like point oh five percent very very small false false positive rate um we of course we didn't
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+believe them because it's the manufacturer so you have to like get it independent so we got when we
+
+26:15.460 --> 26:19.060
+went and found some some colleagues to run some independent studies here at Stanford
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+for a small group then when we released the study it turned out there were like dozen
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+laboratories around the on the world that were also playing with the same antibody test kit
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+26:28.420 --> 26:34.580
+and they basically got the point oh five percent same the same we we gotten um it was actually a
+
+26:34.580 --> 26:39.460
+major scandal around those antibody test kits right around then Jay um a lot of the test kits
+
+26:39.460 --> 26:43.460
+turned out to be fraudulent the UK for instance had bought a bunch of like test kits from Chinese
+
+26:43.460 --> 26:49.540
+companies that had been which is terrible test yes um like you know with like lots of cross
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+positivity to other SARS-CoV-2 viruses and so on um uh I'm sorry SARS-CoV-2 to other coronaviruses
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+and so on um and so like it was it was it was but there are like fortuitously our test kit
+
+27:01.220 --> 27:05.220
+turned out to be good the one of the few good ones it was actually approved by the FDA for uh
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+27:05.220 --> 27:13.060
+for EUA later that summer um and uh yeah so I think we actually got the number right and I said a
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+hundred other uh independent uh groups confirmed uh pretty widespread uh antibody levels uh use
+
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+you're using different test kits basically all around the world that summer and into that fall
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+there was um the best paper that I've been using to teach was a cell article actually
+
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+and uh I don't know if I can flash this up there and show it to you but um the the paper actually
+
+27:42.020 --> 27:51.300
+looks at um in this column in the dark blue is actually uh people that were just blood donors um
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+27:51.300 --> 27:57.700
+in 2020 and even there they can find uh T cells that are specific for the S protein the M protein
+
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+and the N protein of SARS-CoV-2 already in 2019 in blood donors um and they also confirmed the B
+
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+cells um and they showed that actually more people converted T cells than converted B cells which
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+also makes sense from the sorry I don't have you on the screen um making uh makes sense from the
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+the perspective of how the immunology activates itself and sequence like that so there were some
+
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+really giant confirmations of there being a signal before the pandemic started I mean I think um
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+it's quite likely that the the disease was here in 2019 there's no there's I mean it's just it's
+
+28:34.660 --> 28:40.100
+inconceivable to get from like the official start day of the pandemic is what like late January 2020
+
+28:40.100 --> 28:46.020
+2020 in the US and by early April that's like a month and a half and you know three weeks of
+
+28:46.020 --> 28:50.580
+lockdown it had already spread to three percent like you already antibodies in three percent of
+
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+the poverty that the antibodies of course fade right so as you as you as you well know um so the
+
+28:55.940 --> 29:01.780
+idea that uh three percent of the population have antibodies there's no way if the start date is
+
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+January late January 2020 to get to April 20 early April 2020 and say oh well three it's spread to
+
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+three percent um you know in the middle of a lockdown it had to have been here earlier um there
+
+29:13.700 --> 29:20.420
+was a couple of studies really interesting ones from September 2019 like looking at stored blood in
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+and goal in Angola I think was the and then another one in northern Italy looking at stored blood
+
+29:27.540 --> 29:35.220
+in um uh in from blood banks from September 2019 October 2019 that found positive antibodies um
+
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+and I think some of those T cells results that you're you're pointing to Jay I think that also
+
+29:40.340 --> 29:46.340
+says something really important about cross immunity right you you might have had immunity
+
+29:46.340 --> 29:51.540
+because you were exposed to other coronaviruses um and there were some really interesting uh
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+29:51.540 --> 29:58.660
+studies that I remember reading in 2020 of of like preschool teachers and what happens when they
+
+29:58.660 --> 30:03.860
+got infected like they they basically had different like a different disease course in part because
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+30:03.860 --> 30:10.500
+they've been exposed to you know you have small kids I know I've had small kids you get sick all
+
+30:10.500 --> 30:16.980
+the time with presumably the other coronaviruses um and so they had some cross immunity uh so just
+
+30:16.980 --> 30:22.260
+it's uh so what I got a I got a really sharp question for this part of the discussion if
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+30:23.060 --> 30:30.420
+if we agree that this seroprevalence data is real um and we look at at what was happening
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+30:31.060 --> 30:37.220
+in 2019 we don't even we don't see any peaks in all cause mortality we don't see any peaks
+
+30:37.220 --> 30:42.900
+in pneumonia we don't see any peaks in some kind of signal that would indicate that something
+
+30:42.900 --> 30:49.700
+especially deadly was spreading in the background and then suddenly in in certain places at certain
+
+30:49.700 --> 30:56.820
+times we have these giant spikes which which they sold to us as evidence of instantaneous spread
+
+30:56.820 --> 31:02.820
+but your data suggests that's not the case but there's no signal before that so how do I
+
+31:02.820 --> 31:08.580
+reconcile those two things? Well I think um you know you could you could like so I talked to
+
+31:08.580 --> 31:12.580
+Synetra Gupta for instance about this you know she's she's a theoretical epidemiographer professor
+
+31:12.580 --> 31:17.460
+of theoretical epidemiology um what she tells me is that these are consistent with s these are
+
+31:17.460 --> 31:21.620
+consistent with sIR models with particular sIR models are these compartment models I'm sure
+
+31:21.620 --> 31:27.540
+your audience knows uh that they're used to forecast forecast and track uh like the the
+
+31:28.180 --> 31:34.660
+spread of diseases um that there are formulations of sIR model consistent with the patterns that
+
+31:34.660 --> 31:41.860
+we've seen um so like for instance imagine it's it starts in september august 2019 or something
+
+31:41.860 --> 31:47.140
+like there's a it's the path of these sIR models there's flat flat flat flat and then a big
+
+31:47.300 --> 31:51.780
+spread because it's like there's this like early it's not exponential but like it's exponential
+
+31:51.780 --> 31:57.940
+like growth um very very early because you just you know one two four it's very small until you
+
+31:57.940 --> 32:04.580
+get to you know two to the 15th or something and then you get then you have to get big numbers um and
+
+32:04.580 --> 32:11.140
+the how how fast that spreads uh you know it's it's possible that that that it's it's that uh
+
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+let me give you one other data point that I that I've seen that most people don't know about um
+
+32:15.860 --> 32:22.980
+there was a paper by two uh two economists at the ohio state who she had done and uh
+
+32:23.780 --> 32:27.540
+blanking on the uh the second author's name and what they found was that there was
+
+32:27.540 --> 32:33.780
+cremation data from china from muhan in october 2020 a big spike in cremation
+
+32:34.900 --> 32:41.380
+in muhan china uh so it's not that there was no signal earlier it's that the signals were kind of
+
+32:41.380 --> 32:48.340
+hidden um suppressed uh and you can you can look and see some they they apparently got uh they
+
+32:48.340 --> 32:52.580
+they got these data leaked to them uh and they actually couldn't they they tried to get the paper
+
+32:52.580 --> 32:57.300
+published and uh they even the pre-print servers wouldn't put it they finally I think they got
+
+32:57.300 --> 33:02.420
+SSR on or some pre-print server to put it up so you can go find the paper um who she had done
+
+33:02.420 --> 33:07.220
+so there there is there may be uh the other thing it's a curious it's a curious observation
+
+33:07.220 --> 33:12.500
+because um are you aware of andrew huff do you know that that guy is from eco-health alliance
+
+33:12.500 --> 33:18.180
+actually he in his uh story about the pandemic also mentions that he was searching data on the
+
+33:18.180 --> 33:24.820
+internet and found uh some signal that was related to crematoriums in china I don't know if it was a
+
+33:24.820 --> 33:32.500
+signal from a satellite or some other information he had uh which is interesting you said the last
+
+33:32.500 --> 33:41.860
+name was done on that paper d-u-n-n-l-u-c-i-a-d-u-n-n um cool but yeah so it was uh I'll send you the
+
+33:41.860 --> 33:45.460
+paper afterwards I don't have the technology you have of like bringing papers up which is
+
+33:45.460 --> 33:52.260
+very very cool I'd say um uh but yeah I think um I think I think that that it's I mean there
+
+33:52.260 --> 33:57.460
+are still quite a lot we don't know there are also people there are interests of great powers that we
+
+33:57.460 --> 34:04.740
+keep some of this you know like I mean like you know some of this uh like if the full story gets
+
+34:04.740 --> 34:09.380
+out uh about exactly how it I mean I I mean just one of these things were like there's lots of
+
+34:09.380 --> 34:14.740
+people having interest in not having the full story completely get out um as you know as you
+
+34:14.740 --> 34:20.340
+can tell from the the the cover up around uh the support of the NIH for getting to function research
+
+34:20.340 --> 34:27.460
+that's there's a lot of like people who just their reputations will get harmed um uh so anyway
+
+34:27.460 --> 34:33.300
+so like the the point is that uh that it's it's possible that it's not possible likely that it was
+
+34:33.300 --> 34:38.820
+he it was spreading before 2019 I don't see how you can and what you said I agree with uh I don't
+
+34:38.820 --> 34:44.500
+see how you can explain it as it arrives in late January 2020 and then all of a sudden pops up
+
+34:44.500 --> 34:51.940
+everywhere Iran, Italy, UK, Sweden, New York uh all of a sudden pops up everywhere
+
+34:53.060 --> 34:58.980
+without it either uh yeah I mean I think the most likely explanation is it was here earlier it was
+
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+here in 2019 and then you had like exponential spread flat flat flat and then you notice the
+
+35:05.940 --> 35:09.700
+oh I remember what I was gonna say this is one other thing if you're not if you don't you don't
+
+35:09.700 --> 35:15.540
+have a test to look for it before what like January 2020 and in the US we don't really have a test
+
+35:15.540 --> 35:23.780
+a PCR test to look for it until really available to like March 2020 um that is true there was a paper
+
+35:23.780 --> 35:31.700
+by Alex Washburn um early in the pandemic looking at ILI spikes uh it uh influenza like illness spikes
+
+35:32.260 --> 35:38.820
+that it would show up something like that right like an ILI spike um he also was arguing for
+
+35:38.820 --> 35:45.700
+an early spread based on the ILI spikes um so I think I think it's it's going to be a complicated
+
+35:45.700 --> 35:50.420
+story partly because it it matters what you can see in what you don't see oh sorry Jacob no no I
+
+35:50.420 --> 35:58.340
+was just I'm trying to find another piece here but um there's a interesting uh theory on the
+
+35:58.340 --> 36:03.460
+internet that circulates around that flu actually disappeared at the start of the pandemic but then
+
+36:03.460 --> 36:08.180
+people say they stop testing and that's why it disappeared so it's interesting that's that
+
+36:08.180 --> 36:12.660
+actually if you look it did it did actually disappear there was no there was almost no flu
+
+36:12.660 --> 36:19.140
+for for two years so then how did so what signal did he see an ILI then what's he looking for if
+
+36:19.140 --> 36:25.220
+he's not looking so see he was looking for like ILI is not like flu testing data so this ILI is
+
+36:25.220 --> 36:31.700
+like you it's clinical uh your admissions for uh but they weren't giving any money for ILI cases
+
+36:31.700 --> 36:37.460
+so there was no impetus for anybody to record any ILI when they could get 35 000 for calling
+
+36:37.460 --> 36:42.740
+the same thing so um the flu disappearing is like uh there's a what's the name of the group I think
+
+36:42.740 --> 36:49.300
+I'll biofire that the tests um test for like and there's the sentinel labs that the CDC has to test
+
+36:49.300 --> 36:54.820
+for flu and the flu did disappear I mean just it absolutely disappeared for two years like you
+
+36:54.820 --> 36:58.580
+could find almost none of it but either in the southern hemisphere or the northern hemisphere
+
+36:58.580 --> 37:06.740
+almost in any country um it was gone um the okay so what could explain that uh there's two theories
+
+37:06.820 --> 37:10.980
+that I've seen that that's might work I'm not I'm not sure I convinced by either theory but I'll
+
+37:10.980 --> 37:19.300
+tell you what the theories are um one is that the flu and the and the and the covid virus
+
+37:19.300 --> 37:26.260
+I compete in the same evolutionary space in the same niche and so and it just the
+
+37:26.260 --> 37:31.620
+covid just outcompeted the flu in the in our in our noses I've seen a couple of papers that
+
+37:31.620 --> 37:36.740
+suggest that that's not true that in fact that you can have both so I don't I'm not I once for a
+
+37:36.740 --> 37:40.260
+long time I believe that was true but once I saw those papers I was not sure that's true
+
+37:40.820 --> 37:46.500
+um the other theory that I've seen that's possible imagine you have a disease like the flu that is
+
+37:46.500 --> 37:53.540
+in endemic equilibrium right so you you're it's a it's it's hovering around the herd immunity
+
+37:53.620 --> 38:00.500
+threshold uh in the population at large right uh so so you you're you're you're if you whenever
+
+38:00.500 --> 38:05.380
+the immunity level goes above it the flu rates go low whenever it goes below it you see a little
+
+38:05.380 --> 38:12.580
+up you see some uptick like in the in the winter season or whatever um versus a disease that's
+
+38:12.580 --> 38:16.500
+like relatively new in the population you have some cross immunity like we talked about but not
+
+38:16.500 --> 38:22.820
+but but it's not in endemic equilibrium covid is not in endemic equilibrium and then imagine that
+
+38:22.820 --> 38:29.220
+you have a panic or fear or even lockdowns or something uh that what what that will do is it
+
+38:29.220 --> 38:36.340
+will raise the herd it will lower the herd immunity threshold of both the flu and the and for covid
+
+38:38.100 --> 38:44.420
+and that will now if the flu already has immunity in the population that is near the endemic
+
+38:44.420 --> 38:50.580
+threshold right hovering around the herd immunity threshold then the lowering the herd immunity
+
+38:50.580 --> 38:57.780
+threshold by again by panic by panic or by uh lockdown will will cause the flu to disappear
+
+38:58.580 --> 39:03.060
+because you'll have a lot more people that are above that herd immunity threshold but for covid
+
+39:03.060 --> 39:08.740
+it won't because uh the relative fraction of the population that's immune is still well below the
+
+39:08.740 --> 39:13.620
+herd immunity threshold i'm just talking like april 2020 or whatever it's generated whatever
+
+39:13.780 --> 39:21.220
+2020 um and so you could have policies have different effects on different viruses depending on how
+
+39:21.220 --> 39:28.660
+close they are to their own herd immunity thresholds i'd see um that's a theory i i've not that's a
+
+39:28.660 --> 39:33.940
+theory that uh cenetra told me actually i've not seen a paper that's documented whether it's or
+
+39:33.940 --> 39:39.140
+you're tested whether this is this works or doesn't work but the fact is about the sentinel labs in
+
+39:39.140 --> 39:43.940
+the cdc looking for the flu it what they went away like they found nothing for two years
+
+39:46.020 --> 39:49.540
+i'm going to make this over here for a second so i can put you
+
+39:51.300 --> 39:58.900
+up on top so this is this is the one issue that i keep bringing up on my slide stream all the time
+
+40:01.540 --> 40:07.140
+is that if you look at the data from oh what oh that's right i can't do that shoot that doesn't
+
+40:07.140 --> 40:13.780
+work i gotta leave you up where you were um so how do i get that off if i do this sorry i'm trying
+
+40:13.780 --> 40:22.980
+to get too fancy um so if i just show it like this if you take the cdc data and this graph
+
+40:22.980 --> 40:29.220
+unfortunately stops in somewhere in 22 so i don't i haven't updated it in a while but the point
+
+40:29.220 --> 40:37.700
+still gets well made is that if we start at 2000 if we start at 2014 over here and we follow the
+
+40:37.700 --> 40:47.540
+seasonal variation between you know 68,000 and 55,000 deaths per week there's no real signal until
+
+40:47.540 --> 40:56.500
+right there smack dab in february or or march of 2020 and then this this is not anything that a
+
+40:56.500 --> 41:01.700
+normal model fits and then in new york and many other places it goes right back down to baseline
+
+41:02.660 --> 41:08.500
+and that's not what that's still it's still about baseline but um but yeah okay yeah yeah okay but
+
+41:08.500 --> 41:15.780
+but in this case we have a signal in the form of uh pneumonia we have a drop in the signal due to
+
+41:15.780 --> 41:22.260
+flu that you can't see here in yellow and so i'm still stuck on the idea that pneumonia went up to
+
+41:22.260 --> 41:27.380
+two or three times normal death that we used to be able to handle pneumonia pretty well and
+
+41:27.380 --> 41:33.620
+it's a pretty consistent number across the last let's say eight years and then suddenly we we lost
+
+41:33.620 --> 41:39.620
+the plot and we couldn't care for pneumonia anymore um i mean i i think uh what what this
+
+41:39.620 --> 41:45.060
+points to and i i think this is the point you're making at which i agree with this is a complicated
+
+41:45.060 --> 41:50.020
+situation it's not just that covid came in and killed people although i do think that covid
+
+41:50.180 --> 41:56.020
+came and killed people but i i also think that it let the the the policy response
+
+41:56.820 --> 42:02.580
+distorted how we managed respiratory disease generally and actually just disease more generally
+
+42:03.540 --> 42:08.740
+i mean there are incredible reports of people dying at home with heart attacks yes and then
+
+42:08.740 --> 42:15.940
+reported as covid and then reported on the news as covid i mean you know that we uh i think it was
+
+42:16.420 --> 42:22.740
+CARES Act uh that that put in the uh the ten thousand dollar funeral benefit or
+
+42:22.740 --> 42:26.580
+nine thousand dollar funeral benefit if you have covid on your death certificate
+
+42:27.140 --> 42:30.500
+um it doesn't have to be the primary cause just to be on our death certificate in fact if you go
+
+42:30.500 --> 42:35.460
+to the FEMA page it'll tell you how to request that they make sure the check for covid
+
+42:35.460 --> 42:39.780
+so that it shows up on the death certificate that's correct so you can get the benefit
+
+42:39.780 --> 42:44.020
+if you die of cancer without covid on the death certificate you get zero dollars from federal
+
+42:44.020 --> 42:48.180
+funeral benefit so there are definitely incentives to oh i i did a study
+
+42:50.020 --> 42:54.100
+in uh well actually since i didn't publish it i'm not going to talk about that let me just
+
+42:54.100 --> 43:01.140
+talk about that uh something that is published a study done by the Santa Clara county public health
+
+43:01.140 --> 43:08.260
+authorities in 2020 looking at autopsy reports and then going back and do and do like checking
+
+43:08.260 --> 43:13.140
+to see what fraction of the patients that were diagnosed sort of designated as dead from covid
+
+43:13.140 --> 43:18.260
+actually actually had covid as the primary cause of death and it's like you know it's
+
+43:18.260 --> 43:24.900
+not i mean i think like at least 25 over counting in in summer of 2020 at least for older people
+
+43:24.900 --> 43:29.860
+in that autopsy studies with what they found alameda county in california also had a similar
+
+43:29.860 --> 43:35.700
+finding there's definitely over counting um in that sense uh john e and medius has a really
+
+43:35.700 --> 43:39.940
+interesting sort of modeling study looking at trying to find or trying to figure out how much
+
+43:39.940 --> 43:44.980
+over counting there was and he finds i mean something on that order for in in western countries
+
+43:44.980 --> 43:51.380
+of 25 to could be higher uh percent uh over counting probably under counting in in poor countries
+
+43:52.500 --> 43:58.820
+um and so it's it's it's so there's that the the lockdowns themselves cause a lot of death
+
+43:58.820 --> 44:07.620
+there's also iatrogenic harm right so we used a protocol for managing patients in a hospital
+
+44:07.620 --> 44:12.820
+with ventilators that the wall tout organization promulgated based on the chinese authorities
+
+44:13.700 --> 44:18.420
+that uh that was dropped i think sometime in early summer 2020 after people started to
+
+44:18.420 --> 44:24.340
+realize we were killing patients on that we using that ventilator protocol right uh we
+
+44:24.340 --> 44:30.740
+so and and so you and and you're you're a lot of a lot of the uh the rhetoric around the time
+
+44:30.740 --> 44:36.500
+is that you know you if you and actually still uh to for a long time was if you get covid stay at
+
+44:36.500 --> 44:41.220
+home until you're so sick then come to the hospital what if you had pneumonia then right
+
+44:41.220 --> 44:45.780
+pneumonia still is still is a deadly killer um you probably should have gone to the hospital earlier
+
+44:46.340 --> 44:54.020
+to get uh to get an antibiotic treatment um a lot of the a lot of that spike that you showed
+
+44:54.020 --> 44:59.300
+it's got to be complicated it's got to be partly covid partly by atrogenic harm partly just
+
+44:59.300 --> 45:04.340
+disruptions in basic services for for basic things that otherwise could be treatable
+
+45:04.820 --> 45:10.980
+a lot it could be i mean essentially general panic i haven't seen a great decomposition of
+
+45:10.980 --> 45:17.860
+that and i think we really need one like we need to understand uh what what you know each of these
+
+45:17.860 --> 45:24.260
+items are important i've seen people say that it's not consistent with epidemic spread of a disease
+
+45:24.260 --> 45:27.780
+and that i'm not sure about i mean like i said i talked with sineptor Gupta and she says that
+
+45:27.780 --> 45:34.580
+it's consistent with um with sIR models uh with the right parameterization and there are very
+
+45:34.580 --> 45:41.700
+flexible models so it's it's it's still possible but so flexible model makes it weaker in a way
+
+45:41.700 --> 45:46.020
+right because flexible model means you can make the model say whatever you wanted to say including
+
+45:46.020 --> 45:50.500
+what they made it say at the beginning of the pandemic so i always would take that with a grain
+
+45:50.500 --> 45:55.780
+of salt well i think i think the the question is like if you want to say it's not consistent with
+
+45:55.780 --> 46:01.380
+epidemic spread uh the way that you understand what epidemic spread is is these sIR models
+
+46:01.380 --> 46:05.540
+and they are flexible that is that in a sense that you're right i agree with and that is that
+
+46:06.260 --> 46:11.940
+it when you have a very flexible model essentially what you have is uh it's not falsifiable or much
+
+46:11.940 --> 46:17.940
+a very difficult to falsify um i'm not sure that's true for the sIR models i think it is falsifiable
+
+46:17.940 --> 46:24.580
+but but it does encompass a very wide range of viral spread uh patterns uh depending on the
+
+46:25.460 --> 46:31.140
+the parameterization of it so i don't i i guess i'd say i don't
+
+46:32.500 --> 46:37.060
+like the the pattern that you showed i've seen other folks put that up and say look that's not
+
+46:37.060 --> 46:42.340
+consistent with epidemic spread i don't i don't know that's true but i also i also think that the
+
+46:42.340 --> 46:49.860
+general point which is that there was a lot of panic and that that panic itself caused a lot
+
+46:49.860 --> 46:57.620
+of harm deaths even that is that's indisputably true uh are you familiar with denny rancor's work
+
+46:57.620 --> 47:04.420
+this guy uh in canada yeah i think one of the main observations that he makes that's very compelling
+
+47:04.500 --> 47:12.740
+to me is that even in counties in america you can see the lack of spread like an event and then
+
+47:12.740 --> 47:19.780
+it's over and then another event and it's over and it doesn't cross borders for example germany has
+
+47:19.780 --> 47:26.740
+no signal in the first uh first year of the pandemic almost a year and a half um which can't be
+
+47:26.740 --> 47:31.860
+attributed to lockdowns because that's of course one of those things that we've been arguing from
+
+47:31.860 --> 47:37.220
+the beginning that lockdowns can't do that so it's tricky i think it's i mean it's there's a
+
+47:37.220 --> 47:42.660
+there's a study i don't know i'm sure you've seen it uh from um mumbai a colleague of mine at the
+
+47:42.660 --> 47:49.380
+university of chicago a nuke malani conducted a sera prevalence study in in mumbai in uh july
+
+47:49.380 --> 47:54.020
+of twenty twenty i think i think it was the date um and we found it was then the slum areas of
+
+47:54.020 --> 47:58.340
+mumbai the sera prevalence was seventy percent and then the richer areas is twenty percent
+
+47:58.980 --> 48:03.940
+so i think i think like i've done i did a study look trying to measure the effect of lockdowns
+
+48:03.940 --> 48:08.740
+uh comparing sweden and south korea versus other countries um that that did lock down
+
+48:08.740 --> 48:14.900
+the close schools and close businesses and found very little average effect of lockdowns on disease
+
+48:14.900 --> 48:20.100
+spread and i think the key i don't know i mean i didn't like this is how i'm thinking about now
+
+48:20.660 --> 48:28.500
+the main hypothesis i have now right is that is that um is that lockdowns worked for a certain
+
+48:28.500 --> 48:35.620
+class of people right a class of people who didn't lose their jobs essentially was like the laptop
+
+48:35.620 --> 48:43.220
+class right so lockdowns are lockdowns are luxury of the laptop class um and for the rest of the
+
+48:43.220 --> 48:50.020
+population it didn't work and so you could have populated places that have a larger fraction
+
+48:50.020 --> 48:58.100
+of the population that that isolate themselves for whom it works even as the disease spreads in
+
+48:58.100 --> 49:03.460
+among among people who can't isolate themselves for economic reasons or other reasons um so you're
+
+49:03.460 --> 49:08.660
+gonna have heterogeneous spread and just looking at the average spread is not the key thing um
+
+49:08.660 --> 49:13.860
+germany was like pretty i mean germany was really interesting right that like they they had they
+
+49:13.860 --> 49:18.660
+they basically declared victory over the virus before before like to spread everywhere uh
+
+49:18.660 --> 49:25.460
+china did the same thing country after country uh so it's possible then that lockdowns temporarily
+
+49:26.500 --> 49:30.180
+protected certain groups of certain classes of the population
+
+49:31.620 --> 49:38.100
+um you know you know another great example for this is like peru i don't know if you ever
+
+49:38.100 --> 49:44.820
+looked at the peruvian data j um the per in peru they had like they had one of the worst lockdowns
+
+49:44.820 --> 49:48.980
+in the world like the most raponium and of course there's vast numbers of poor people in peru
+
+49:49.860 --> 49:57.860
+and there was huge numbers of deaths during the lockdown um the at one point in the pandemic
+
+49:57.860 --> 50:04.340
+per the peruvian authorities reclassified all of those deaths as covid deaths when they were like
+
+50:04.340 --> 50:09.860
+you know people starving um people like and so and the disease i mean of course disease
+
+50:09.860 --> 50:14.020
+probably also spread to those folks too um despite the lockdowns i think that
+
+50:14.020 --> 50:19.060
+it's such a complicated thing like if you have unequal societies you're going to have different
+
+50:19.060 --> 50:24.740
+impacts of lockdowns on different parts of those those societies um a lot of those disease spread
+
+50:24.740 --> 50:31.860
+models are pretty bad and though it's going as associated with socioeconomic realities um
+
+50:31.860 --> 50:38.420
+and so yeah i think there's a lot to learn um i guess i'm not ready to like uh discard the disease
+
+50:38.420 --> 50:42.820
+spread hypothesis based on it's still quite possible that's that's part of the story
+
+50:43.780 --> 50:48.820
+yeah in fact it's like i mean i say it go further i say it's likely that's a part of the story
+
+50:48.820 --> 50:56.580
+but the panic is really a major part of it as well yeah i think um the the three-year
+
+50:57.380 --> 51:04.420
+odyssey that i've been on has led me to conclude that that there might have been
+
+51:05.220 --> 51:12.100
+let's say for example you had this plan and you knew that when you executed the plan that
+
+51:12.100 --> 51:18.500
+trillions of dollars would shift and power would shift um and so the question is would
+
+51:18.500 --> 51:25.220
+a national security state leave that up to chance or would they kind of tip the scales to be ready
+
+51:25.220 --> 51:32.260
+and and and control that thing and so for me that's what that's how it adds up if we go back to this
+
+51:32.660 --> 51:37.780
+atrogenic harm uh comments that you were making earlier about the ventilators actually being a
+
+51:37.780 --> 51:44.180
+bad idea do you find it spooky then how it was such a illusion of consensus about the fact that
+
+51:44.180 --> 51:49.540
+we would run out of ventilators the elon musk had to shift his production to ventilators because
+
+51:49.540 --> 51:55.300
+this was thought to be the cure it's almost impossible for that to have been organic um
+
+51:57.140 --> 52:01.860
+i think i uh so like the ventilators are really curious thing right so first of all i remember
+
+52:01.860 --> 52:07.300
+seeing the earlier reports out of china like case reports out of china from early january 2020
+
+52:08.100 --> 52:14.980
+suggesting ventilators as a way to and and uh it was almost like it wasn't just for the patient
+
+52:14.980 --> 52:21.780
+it was for the doctors like the idea was that if you put a patient on a ventilator uh it was not
+
+52:22.660 --> 52:28.980
+yeah yeah like you reduce the risk to the to doctors and so um you could very easily
+
+52:28.980 --> 52:32.740
+imagine an organic phenomenon wouldn't have to be a plan it would just be
+
+52:33.460 --> 52:38.100
+doctors don't want to expose themselves to risk they have this technology that think would help
+
+52:38.100 --> 52:44.900
+patients and help them and they just adopt it and the WHO basically endorses it um and so it's like
+
+52:44.900 --> 52:50.260
+it just spread like i i guess my model uh is a little different than yours in that sense like i
+
+52:50.260 --> 52:57.060
+think a lot of the a lot of the the like just take the the pharmaceutical companies making
+
+52:57.060 --> 53:02.420
+gadsillions of dollars a lot of it is a lot of this opportunistic like once you start to see
+
+53:03.060 --> 53:09.620
+the panic happening you have got you have like uh media organizations that all of a sudden are
+
+53:09.620 --> 53:15.300
+seeing up increases in in their huge increases in the interest in their publications and their money
+
+53:16.020 --> 53:20.260
+and so they they want to keep augmenting the panic because that's that's what their bottom line is
+
+53:20.740 --> 53:27.540
+that they as soon as the governments some governments see that they can take control over over like
+
+53:27.540 --> 53:32.740
+you you know impose things that they've never otherwise would be able to do uh run run uh early
+
+53:32.740 --> 53:40.180
+elections like in in um in like what happened in uh for instance in uh in Canada so uh work
+
+53:40.180 --> 53:49.860
+or uh to to like establish that uh a long-term uh you know long-term staying power in the you
+
+53:49.860 --> 53:55.380
+know like i remember after 9-11 there was huge huge support for the for the bush administration
+
+53:55.940 --> 53:59.940
+like unprecedented levels like it's kind of a rally around the flag thing and so like if
+
+53:59.940 --> 54:05.460
+governments of course uh you know it'd be almost malpractice political malpractice not to like take
+
+54:05.460 --> 54:10.980
+advantage of it i think a lot my model for a lot of this jay is that um you once you've caused
+
+54:10.980 --> 54:16.340
+panic in the population at large once that has happened for through whatever process uh we can
+
+54:16.340 --> 54:22.740
+talk about that i do think that there was some deliberate uh desire to spread panic uh uh but
+
+54:22.740 --> 54:29.300
+once that started once that it's it's it creates all kinds of opportunities for act for various
+
+54:29.300 --> 54:33.860
+actors many of whom thinking that they're doing good but they're actually ended up doing harm
+
+54:33.860 --> 54:40.660
+to try to take advantage that is definitely close to how i have interpreted this and now it's just
+
+54:41.700 --> 54:48.260
+in in pessimism or an optimism looking at it as uh how much of it was nefarious and i i definitely
+
+54:48.260 --> 54:57.940
+agree that that there is this uh potential for it i just am frightened because um i i was so moved
+
+54:58.020 --> 55:04.180
+by this uh there was a chatham house talk in 2011 that was given by the by a guy by the name of
+
+55:04.180 --> 55:12.340
+mark von ronst um he's a a belgian guy who oversaw the flu in uh 2009 the flu epidemic the swine flu
+
+55:12.340 --> 55:19.700
+epidemic and in that presentation he i don't know the exact quote but he he is lamenting
+
+55:20.500 --> 55:26.340
+that in 2009 they didn't have the capability that they do now with twitter and facebook and with
+
+55:26.900 --> 55:32.900
+with media messaging um they could have never achieved um what they really needed to achieve
+
+55:32.900 --> 55:37.140
+back then but he knows how they could do it now and that was with with you know he could see
+
+55:37.140 --> 55:41.700
+that facebook and these things would be really useful and one of the things that he's saying in
+
+55:41.700 --> 55:52.340
+that in that talk is that they publicized seven people dying of the flu and then extrapolated
+
+55:52.340 --> 55:58.980
+what the uk had said and said that we can expect so many hundred people to die in belgian this
+
+55:58.980 --> 56:06.020
+month and it was the exact expectation of every year but they made it sound like because they
+
+56:06.020 --> 56:13.380
+accentuated this seven people had died of the new flu that somehow a new phenomenon was occurring
+
+56:13.380 --> 56:18.980
+and there are other videos where these flu virologists will lament that nobody takes the flu
+
+56:18.980 --> 56:24.900
+seriously anymore and so there's all this anecdotal evidence that their public health
+
+56:26.020 --> 56:33.300
+apparatus has been grasping at straws to try and get something to catch um and you know and it
+
+56:34.260 --> 56:40.100
+Ralph barracks original sort of plan with using coronaviruses was to use them as a vaccine platform
+
+56:40.100 --> 56:45.460
+because they're so innocuous so it's really strange if you go back to barracks originally
+
+56:45.460 --> 56:51.620
+they were trying to blame it all on him now but his overarching motivation for investigating
+
+56:51.620 --> 56:56.340
+coronaviruses was that was that they were innocuous and therefore could be a potential platform for
+
+56:56.900 --> 57:01.300
+genetic technologies and that kind of thing i don't know where i was going with that question
+
+57:01.300 --> 57:07.380
+uh so actually let me just to say i think i've seen that van rans video um i think i think he
+
+57:07.380 --> 57:11.860
+laments if i remember if it's the same video i'm remembering he's he's like lamenting that there
+
+57:11.860 --> 57:17.460
+there are people that might they like to contradict the public health uh fear mongering um that was
+
+57:17.460 --> 57:23.380
+the problem yes but we that that you know if you just needed better control um and you know in the
+
+57:23.380 --> 57:30.420
+uk there's this uh this group that advised the government called spy b spi b behavior or behavioral
+
+57:31.300 --> 57:37.700
+they they embrace this idea of nudges nudges in order to create panic that was like that was like
+
+57:37.700 --> 57:42.740
+that was essentially like uh seen as like a a responsible thing to do to cut to create panic
+
+57:42.740 --> 57:49.700
+in the population during this pandemic um and uh the control of information to the public at large
+
+57:49.700 --> 57:59.060
+was a central i uh central fix uh fixation of of of of of many public health authorities there are
+
+57:59.700 --> 58:07.380
+foyer documents from mark zuckerberg and uh to tatoni fauci from the earliest days of the pandemic
+
+58:07.380 --> 58:14.340
+about how to manage the the perception of the fear or perception of the risk in the public at large
+
+58:15.300 --> 58:21.620
+and uh you know frankly it it was it worked it worked like there are still people who think
+
+58:21.620 --> 58:25.940
+that the if you get covid the like i mean i mean i mean i mean this is i don't know maybe there's
+
+58:26.100 --> 58:29.780
+not still people i hope they're not still people but like they were up until 2022 there are people
+
+58:29.780 --> 58:34.420
+who thought that if you got covid there's one chance and two of of being hospitalized and one chance
+
+58:34.420 --> 58:39.540
+in you know three of dying or something when in fact the truth was orders of magnitude less than that
+
+58:40.900 --> 58:46.820
+um and so the the and the and the what the stories that they told themselves was that you needed
+
+58:46.820 --> 58:54.020
+people to be appropriately scared so a that they complied with the the orders of public health and
+
+58:54.020 --> 58:58.820
+be that so that they didn't they they acted in ways in their private lives that reduced the
+
+58:58.820 --> 59:05.140
+risk of spreading the disease to to to vulnerable people um what the problem with that is that like
+
+59:05.140 --> 59:11.780
+as soon as you unleash fear in the population like that it takes on a life of its own it it creates
+
+59:12.340 --> 59:17.220
+all kinds of harm um that have long standing i mean i think i don't for instance i don't think
+
+59:17.220 --> 59:21.220
+schools close in the united states for as long as they did if you don't have that fear and panic
+
+59:21.220 --> 59:27.140
+like who wants to harm their children by like not letting them have basic a basic childhood
+
+59:27.780 --> 59:31.700
+right no one no one really wants to do that it's only and when you're in the grips of fear that
+
+59:31.700 --> 59:36.900
+you're abnormal that's not it's it's only it's only that that can lead to to some of the crazy
+
+59:36.900 --> 59:42.180
+things we've seen um i think i think i don't think you don't think it's inverted that the fact that
+
+59:42.180 --> 59:47.540
+we couldn't lock down is what frightened everybody that that all these people took it so seriously i
+
+59:47.620 --> 59:53.780
+mean i wasn't afraid of being at home with my kids i hated it but i was and i lamented that
+
+59:53.780 --> 01:00:00.260
+they were not able to hang out but it never occurred to me that the way it did to my neighbors that
+
+01:00:00.260 --> 01:00:05.140
+wow it must be serious if they're closing the schools for the rest of the year oh my gosh
+
+01:00:05.140 --> 01:00:10.260
+they're not gonna they might not open schools in the fall can you believe how serious this is
+
+01:00:10.260 --> 01:00:14.020
+that's the question you ask if you're skillfully watching television at that time
+
+01:00:14.980 --> 01:00:20.340
+no you absolutely right jay i agree with that i think it's it's uh it's it's kind of a feedback loop
+
+01:00:20.340 --> 01:00:25.460
+right you lock down that causes fear and then that causes uh support for lock further lockdowns
+
+01:00:25.460 --> 01:00:30.500
+and other restrictions and so you just have this like this feedback loop that lit plate and i
+
+01:00:30.500 --> 01:00:36.420
+remember the first time i saw uh a uh a poll of how popular the lockdowns were i think it was like
+
+01:00:36.420 --> 01:00:41.380
+april or may 2020 and i was like 80 percent of the population was fully on board i was like i
+
+01:00:41.380 --> 01:00:46.580
+was shocked yep and i thought there would be widespread protests there were some protests but
+
+01:00:46.580 --> 01:00:54.020
+but those protests were seen as like a counter cultural act a heretical act um and uh they were
+
+01:00:54.020 --> 01:00:59.620
+like they were suppressed and uh you know like that was that so it was really funny actually to see
+
+01:00:59.620 --> 01:01:07.700
+the george floyd protests happen in uh early late spring early summer 2020 and the public health
+
+01:01:07.700 --> 01:01:11.940
+authorities sign a letter saying oh yeah we those that's that's good public health
+
+01:01:13.380 --> 01:01:17.780
+actually i kind of interpret that as young people needed some outlet to like
+
+01:01:18.980 --> 01:01:23.940
+express their frustration i mean i so i was like yeah fine like people people should people
+
+01:01:23.940 --> 01:01:28.740
+should be allowed to i think everyone should have been allowed to protest the the fear was used to
+
+01:01:28.740 --> 01:01:33.380
+control people it's going to have consequences they're really hard to like predict up front
+
+01:01:34.100 --> 01:01:38.900
+um it just it plays itself out in in in ways that are just uh damaging to people
+
+01:01:39.460 --> 01:01:44.500
+um and so i think i think i i agree with you that the lockdowns induce the fear but also the other
+
+01:01:44.500 --> 01:01:50.340
+direction um it's a good feedback loop i mean the masks also i mean that was a really outward
+
+01:01:50.340 --> 01:01:54.100
+selling yeah it's it looked that you're in a pandemic you're wearing you see everyone wearing
+
+01:01:54.100 --> 01:01:59.700
+like you know full body suits that you're it's like you're in a movie uh that was part of it and i
+
+01:01:59.780 --> 01:02:04.420
+think part of actually master really interesting in that sense because it it did induce fear
+
+01:02:04.420 --> 01:02:09.700
+like it reminded people to be scared but it was also like i think a lot of public health people
+
+01:02:09.700 --> 01:02:15.220
+thought of it as a way to like give uh uh give people a sense of control false sense of control
+
+01:02:15.220 --> 01:02:21.060
+over their disease risk right so we've caused this fear we want to manage it even though there's
+
+01:02:21.060 --> 01:02:25.940
+no good uh no good randomized evidence suggests masks could could do what we say or they do but
+
+01:02:25.940 --> 01:02:31.300
+let's tell people that so that uh so that it that that they feel like they have some autonomy
+
+01:02:31.300 --> 01:02:38.260
+over the risk they're taking wow it's just crazy what they've done to us i really what i lament
+
+01:02:38.260 --> 01:02:45.540
+the most is that they've they've specifically misled these college age kids who really had to
+
+01:02:46.260 --> 01:02:53.780
+conform in a way that no one else really in america had to conform um and and so i remember jay like
+
+01:02:54.500 --> 01:03:00.740
+there was a the close the air force academy to for uh for like they sent home the freshman
+
+01:03:00.740 --> 01:03:06.500
+sophomores and juniors uh and then they kept they kept the seniors in spring of 2020 and they kept
+
+01:03:06.500 --> 01:03:10.900
+the seniors and they put them in like solitary confinement they were not allowed to leave their
+
+01:03:10.900 --> 01:03:14.820
+dorm rooms they basically brought food to them they didn't have any human contact for months
+
+01:03:15.380 --> 01:03:20.740
+two kids killed themselves two air force cadets killed themselves in spring i remember seeing that
+
+01:03:20.820 --> 01:03:26.420
+going this is this is just cruel it's inhumane um and these are kids that are very very low risk
+
+01:03:26.420 --> 01:03:31.300
+of getting hurt if they get covid and actually even just the clothing of colleges like if you
+
+01:03:31.300 --> 01:03:38.580
+know this disease is risky for old people why would you send young people back home to create
+
+01:03:38.580 --> 01:03:43.700
+multi-generational homes that didn't need to exist for for for several months why not keep them at
+
+01:03:43.700 --> 01:03:52.500
+college um you know i just i it was it was um i mean i i tend to be the kind of person that
+
+01:03:52.500 --> 01:03:58.980
+that like will attribute that to like just intellectual errors um and maybe that's what it was but
+
+01:03:58.980 --> 01:04:03.460
+i think a lot of those intellectual errors come out of panic right the idea that young people are
+
+01:04:03.460 --> 01:04:08.420
+somehow like the the the vector of the disease vector of disease other human beings are simply
+
+01:04:08.420 --> 01:04:13.460
+just bio hazards to be avoided um i mean i'm sure this happened to you like you walked down
+
+01:04:13.460 --> 01:04:19.140
+the street and if you're not wearing a mask uh the a masked person will jump out into the
+
+01:04:19.140 --> 01:04:24.820
+off the sidewalk to get away from you uh i mean that happened how do you how do you get to that
+
+01:04:24.820 --> 01:04:29.380
+point well you get to that point because public health authorities and and uh governments are
+
+01:04:29.380 --> 01:04:36.100
+telling people to treat people like bio hazards yeah the the the only people that are wearing masks
+
+01:04:36.100 --> 01:04:42.180
+in the Pittsburgh area now are between the ages of like 18 and 23 and they'll wear it all day long
+
+01:04:42.260 --> 01:04:46.740
+at work um you have to sometimes depending on the hospital you go to they have a sign that says
+
+01:04:46.740 --> 01:04:52.420
+please wear a mask but not everybody's wearing one um but it they're still very much sustaining
+
+01:04:52.420 --> 01:04:57.860
+this idea that that something about mother nature has changed drastically in the last three years
+
+01:04:57.860 --> 01:05:04.420
+and uh it's a permanent change and it's terrifying because we're really if if the adults don't wake
+
+01:05:04.420 --> 01:05:10.340
+up soon then the the kids will be permanently brainwashed like this i think it's i mean i think
+
+01:05:10.660 --> 01:05:15.140
+those like masks are seen as like we're we're sold as if they were a costless or harmless
+
+01:05:15.140 --> 01:05:19.060
+intervention um you know like there are these there's this psychological syndrome like people
+
+01:05:19.060 --> 01:05:25.460
+were the kids young people wear the mask in order to hide because of their insecurities um that the
+
+01:05:26.500 --> 01:05:31.060
+the masks if they don't work or like the cloth masks certainly don't do anything you tell people
+
+01:05:31.060 --> 01:05:35.540
+to wear it yeah older people will wear cloth masks go into situations that they probably should
+
+01:05:35.540 --> 01:05:41.220
+have stayed away from or during times of high disease spread and take risks that they wouldn't
+
+01:05:41.220 --> 01:05:46.500
+otherwise have taken except for the fact they were wearing a mask um and and you know like i got i
+
+01:05:46.500 --> 01:05:50.420
+got all these heartbreaking emails through the whole pandemic from people but probably among the
+
+01:05:50.420 --> 01:05:55.060
+most heartbreaking we're we're like parents of autistic kids telling me what what the masking was
+
+01:05:55.060 --> 01:06:00.980
+doing to their to their to their kids or hearing impaired kids uh your parents of hearing impaired
+
+01:06:00.980 --> 01:06:05.860
+kids um i just it's the idea that like you could have any intervention with with no good
+
+01:06:05.860 --> 01:06:11.140
+evidence behind it and assume that it's going to have no harm at all because these are medical
+
+01:06:11.140 --> 01:06:15.300
+interventions you have to treat them seriously like you have to have great evidence before you
+
+01:06:15.300 --> 01:06:20.980
+recommend them at scale um and it's just for public health is to act the way it did in the absence
+
+01:06:20.980 --> 01:06:26.980
+of evidence um it was such it i mean i have to say what i was uh we keep talking about the illusion
+
+01:06:27.060 --> 01:06:32.260
+consensus it was such an inversion for me from my expectations after 20 years of working in
+
+01:06:32.820 --> 01:06:38.980
+in academics and public health um to see how people behave they they behave so irresponsibly
+
+01:06:39.700 --> 01:06:44.980
+like that that like fear mongering i thought was like anathema in public health like we we were
+
+01:06:44.980 --> 01:06:51.380
+supposed to uh exclude calmness like to talk to calm pop people down not to treat fear mongering
+
+01:06:51.380 --> 01:07:01.300
+as if it were a virtue right yeah i i i can speak much to that um i had uh i had a lot of uh
+
+01:07:03.060 --> 01:07:09.620
+a lot of run-ins with people trying to calmly objectively in private messaging just say well
+
+01:07:09.620 --> 01:07:16.180
+maybe you can temper this this position a little bit um and and people were willing to go the full
+
+01:07:16.260 --> 01:07:20.100
+distance of saying that you know if you're not going to follow the rules then you shouldn't be
+
+01:07:20.100 --> 01:07:25.060
+in society which is uh that's a pretty extraordinary stance to take
+
+01:07:27.460 --> 01:07:32.180
+yeah well i mean as in academic i said i was like i was let me just talk to about scott atlas because
+
+01:07:33.140 --> 01:07:37.700
+since since the theme is like less like sort of what sort of the mechanisms of control and
+
+01:07:37.700 --> 01:07:44.900
+in the illusions consensus uh like my colleague scott atlas he uh for 20 for for decades he was
+
+01:07:44.900 --> 01:07:51.060
+the head of neuro radiology at stanford a very accomplished doctor wrote uh wrote a textbook
+
+01:07:51.860 --> 01:07:57.300
+and for the last decade or so he's been advising um you know republican president presidential
+
+01:07:57.300 --> 01:08:04.420
+candidate and other politicians about public health and so it wasn't a surprise when um when
+
+01:08:04.420 --> 01:08:10.100
+president trump asked him to be to be his advisor he and i had been talking uh throughout the pandemic
+
+01:08:10.100 --> 01:08:14.020
+talking about paper legal it's like an accident in many ways i'm sure you felt this a pretty exciting
+
+01:08:14.020 --> 01:08:19.380
+time to be a scientist like how many times you get to learn about new brand new things where
+
+01:08:19.380 --> 01:08:25.780
+everyone's learning together i mean that's a real interesting thing right um and uh uh he's
+
+01:08:25.780 --> 01:08:31.540
+said he's come to the view that i i'd come to which is you know we should not be uh we should not be
+
+01:08:31.540 --> 01:08:36.820
+like panic mongering we should not be harming the lives of children we should not be locking down
+
+01:08:36.820 --> 01:08:40.100
+we should be better protecting vulnerable older people that's that's the view he's
+
+01:08:40.180 --> 01:08:47.700
+talking in the he's like uh he's on fox uh trump finds him my colleagues at stanford uh viewed that
+
+01:08:47.700 --> 01:08:57.140
+as a betrayal uh there was a letter written by uh the former dean of the medical school at stanford
+
+01:08:57.140 --> 01:09:03.620
+phil piezo man and phil piezo who then spread that uh sent that letter all around stanford
+
+01:09:04.260 --> 01:09:10.900
+uh young people junior professors without tenure several of them told me that they felt
+
+01:09:11.460 --> 01:09:14.660
+essentially social pressure to sign it because if what if they don't sign it
+
+01:09:14.660 --> 01:09:17.220
+well are they going to get tenured will that be held against them who knows
+
+01:09:18.420 --> 01:09:26.020
+right you and it essentially accused scott of of pseudoscience for the crime of not fully
+
+01:09:26.020 --> 01:09:33.300
+embracing the mask religion right uh he actually accused him weirdly of like i mean it implied that
+
+01:09:33.300 --> 01:09:38.740
+he wasn't in favor of hand washing i mean i defy you to show me anywhere where he said it
+
+01:09:38.740 --> 01:09:43.300
+wasn't favor hand washing and then the faculty sent it at stanford they voted i mean i don't know
+
+01:09:43.300 --> 01:09:49.540
+what to call it other than an excommunication right it was like expel the heretic from the flock
+
+01:09:50.260 --> 01:09:54.580
+right it was a it was a it was a it was a it was a and it was a mechanism of social control
+
+01:09:55.140 --> 01:10:01.860
+of of a of a qualified scientist who didn't agree with with what they were saying rather than have
+
+01:10:01.860 --> 01:10:06.260
+a debate or discussion at a place like stanford with that's our obligation right that's
+
+01:10:06.260 --> 01:10:10.900
+that's what it means to be a university is to allow those debates and discussions to happen
+
+01:10:10.900 --> 01:10:15.780
+platform them uh and keep away from the ad homin and they said they they excommunicated him
+
+01:10:16.420 --> 01:10:20.900
+um i i i think that that happened to so i mean people who signed the great bank directors they're
+
+01:10:20.900 --> 01:10:26.340
+people who told me that they lost their jobs because they signed it i mean i don't know i
+
+01:10:26.340 --> 01:10:30.740
+frankly for a while i felt so bad i mean because i felt like i couldn't protect anybody i mean i
+
+01:10:30.740 --> 01:10:36.820
+felt helpless i i don't know but i i don't know i i i don't know what else to do like it you have
+
+01:10:36.820 --> 01:10:42.500
+to our job is to say what we see as scientists we now always be right and we may disagree but we
+
+01:10:42.500 --> 01:10:47.700
+just to have productive conversations with each other and hopefully learn from each other uh and
+
+01:10:47.700 --> 01:10:52.340
+sometimes it's you know brass knuckles but it's not it's not brass knuckles at the people it's brass
+
+01:10:52.340 --> 01:10:57.860
+knuckles at the ideas um that's what science is supposed to be it it was a complete inversion of that
+
+01:10:58.580 --> 01:11:04.340
+that's a really nice way of explaining it the it's brass knuckles with the ideas and that that's
+
+01:11:04.340 --> 01:11:12.180
+really really important um do you think that the pandemic has made this phenomenon of group think
+
+01:11:12.180 --> 01:11:21.380
+worse or better for us if they driven us more to our corners or i guess i i guess i'm kind of
+
+01:11:21.460 --> 01:11:28.980
+an optimist uh in that in that sense i think um it's exposed the group the propensity to group
+
+01:11:28.980 --> 01:11:34.980
+think that was already there inside science i didn't see it before the pandemic i have to be
+
+01:11:34.980 --> 01:11:40.100
+honest i did not see it before the pandemic i didn't i felt it to sound a little bit i mean in very
+
+01:11:40.100 --> 01:11:44.980
+serious like oh yo i i don't want to work on that because i don't want to you know step on people's
+
+01:11:44.980 --> 01:11:51.940
+toes or whatever i but i didn't think it was like at the heart of of of biomedical sciences
+
+01:11:52.740 --> 01:11:58.260
+and i think a lot of people now in the biomedical sciences have started to see that it's there
+
+01:11:59.060 --> 01:12:06.660
+and now only question is how can we structure the the institutions of biomedical sciences
+
+01:12:06.660 --> 01:12:14.340
+so that uh people will will feel free to to speak people will i think most scientists now
+
+01:12:14.340 --> 01:12:20.260
+understand that that's not there and most scientists want that and so we have an opportunity for reform
+
+01:12:21.620 --> 01:12:27.140
+like a unprecedented once in a generation opportunity reform if we can just figure out how to get the
+
+01:12:27.140 --> 01:12:32.180
+the the sort of the right levers in place to do that um that's what i've been focused on try to
+
+01:12:32.180 --> 01:12:37.700
+work on uh like i think the key thing for me my role has been to try to uh come up with reforms
+
+01:12:37.700 --> 01:12:42.420
+that are very broad number of scientists and and other the populace that large can agree on
+
+01:12:42.420 --> 01:12:47.460
+would be would be and try to build a coalition around that because it's you know science we think
+
+01:12:47.460 --> 01:12:52.820
+of is like this like thing that's separate from the society it's not it's part of society as
+
+01:12:52.820 --> 01:12:59.780
+everyone now knows that every like it's science itself that has been part of the uh the very fabric
+
+01:12:59.780 --> 01:13:04.020
+of how we run our society the last three and a half years right and everyone sees that it's power
+
+01:13:04.020 --> 01:13:09.540
+and that means now everyone has an interest in reforming it so that it it can function the way
+
+01:13:09.540 --> 01:13:13.460
+it's supposed to function not the way it did as a as a tool for authoritarian power
+
+01:13:15.140 --> 01:13:23.300
+um what about just the the legal aspect of the pandemic we talked you talked a little bit about
+
+01:13:23.300 --> 01:13:29.380
+these people making all kinds of money um some lawyers would argue i think a lot of lawyers would
+
+01:13:29.380 --> 01:13:34.420
+argue that the only reason why that money can be made is because there's no strict liability for
+
+01:13:34.420 --> 01:13:41.700
+many of these classes of pharmaceutical products and be that as it may that's compounded by
+
+01:13:41.700 --> 01:13:47.940
+this ability for them to declare an emergency and then basically apparently a lot of these people
+
+01:13:47.940 --> 01:13:55.700
+are more or less acting with without consequence um so it's hard to ask these people to reflect on
+
+01:13:55.700 --> 01:14:00.340
+what they did and then change their behavior where as it almost demands that we have to
+
+01:14:01.060 --> 01:14:04.900
+take these people out of the driver's seats that they're sitting in and put other people
+
+01:14:04.900 --> 01:14:12.100
+there i mean how do we solve this problem i mean the the power of pharma um on our social
+
+01:14:12.100 --> 01:14:17.540
+structures is almost unimaginably great and i think the united states in particular
+
+01:14:18.580 --> 01:14:24.340
+where you have direct consumer advertising there's that's legal and possible um what that means is
+
+01:14:24.340 --> 01:14:30.580
+that pharma controls the uh the purse strings of our media companies the largest media companies
+
+01:14:31.220 --> 01:14:37.220
+they have as you said pharma they have a liability shield for especially for vaccines
+
+01:14:37.780 --> 01:14:43.700
+um that was put in place with the argument for it being put in place was you don't want frivolous
+
+01:14:43.700 --> 01:14:48.980
+suits against the pharmaceutical companies that then send a signal to people that did not be vaccinated
+
+01:14:49.060 --> 01:14:54.180
+but the the flip side of that is a is a is a commitment to responsible behavior by pharma
+
+01:14:54.180 --> 01:15:01.380
+which we didn't have during the pandemic and so so you have like essentially like social
+
+01:15:01.380 --> 01:15:06.500
+contracts have been broken all over the place regarding these things and that's why i think
+
+01:15:06.500 --> 01:15:11.780
+it is a moment for reform you talk about legal action actually i've been one one major legal
+
+01:15:11.780 --> 01:15:16.980
+action i've been involved with is this Missouri versus Biden case which is the case aimed at the
+
+01:15:16.980 --> 01:15:20.980
+Biden administration's uh why call up the ministry of truth there their censorship
+
+01:15:20.980 --> 01:15:26.980
+industrial complex that case which is now sitting in front of the Supreme Court uh it's revealed
+
+01:15:26.980 --> 01:15:34.100
+essentially a vast enterprise by federal government bureaucrats that will go to social media companies
+
+01:15:34.100 --> 01:15:41.860
+and why i say bureaucrats i mean like fbi uh the the the cdc the assertion general's office
+
+01:15:42.260 --> 01:15:46.900
+uh the nih will go to the social and the white house itself will go to social media companies
+
+01:15:46.900 --> 01:15:51.540
+and say here are the people i want censored here are the people here are the ideas i want censored
+
+01:15:51.540 --> 01:15:55.540
+this is probably why you're on twitch i mean if you probably i'm sure i think i saw you on youtube
+
+01:15:55.540 --> 01:16:00.260
+once upon a time it was probably impossible you're on youtube yeah yeah probably a part of list you
+
+01:16:00.260 --> 01:16:05.780
+can't you can't do you can't do this on youtube at least maybe not not definitely not back then i
+
+01:16:05.780 --> 01:16:11.460
+had to move yeah i mean i think you were you were on the i know i was on the list i was put on twitter
+
+01:16:11.460 --> 01:16:17.140
+blacklist the day i joined twitter that is not consistent with the american first amendment
+
+01:16:17.700 --> 01:16:23.700
+like that is a and it's an even more important is a violation of the of our basic civil civil civil
+
+01:16:23.700 --> 01:16:30.900
+rights uh and for science it is anathema you cannot have science without free discussion of ideas
+
+01:16:30.900 --> 01:16:36.100
+we're going to have ideas that we disagree with happen in science it's just part and sometimes
+
+01:16:36.100 --> 01:16:41.220
+those ideas will be uh will be misattributed by others the way that you deal with that is by
+
+01:16:41.220 --> 01:16:47.540
+free speech um so i so i think legal action is very very important uh if you'd ask me before
+
+01:16:47.540 --> 01:16:51.380
+the pandemic whether legal action and political action was important for science i said well
+
+01:16:51.380 --> 01:16:56.660
+those are important maybe but they're secondary now i think um they're actually many they're pretty
+
+01:16:56.660 --> 01:17:01.620
+much at the center like if you really want to reform things you're going to need political action
+
+01:17:01.620 --> 01:17:07.540
+for reform we're going to need legal action to constrain the the excesses of yes pharmaceutical
+
+01:17:07.540 --> 01:17:12.500
+companies but also governments uh and and and other entities that have been that have uh
+
+01:17:12.500 --> 01:17:19.620
+i mean i i just take one um that i just i still can't wrap my mind around um universities mandated
+
+01:17:19.620 --> 01:17:26.020
+vaccines for young people at scale even after credible evidence came out that young men especially
+
+01:17:26.020 --> 01:17:32.100
+had faced i call unacceptably high rates of myocarditis from the vaccine and yet they mandated it in
+
+01:17:32.180 --> 01:17:38.340
+order to go to school uh the the idea that there's no liability shield that applies to
+
+01:17:38.340 --> 01:17:45.140
+pharmaceutical companies doesn't apply to universities um and many of them did it without uh you know
+
+01:17:45.140 --> 01:17:50.660
+they they weren't mandated to mandate it they just did it um i think that there's going to be legal
+
+01:17:50.660 --> 01:17:58.500
+action at scale wow that's exciting in a way i mean it's dark but um i think there's a lot of
+
+01:17:58.580 --> 01:18:03.620
+peripheral malfeasance that went on in universities that could also catch into this like the
+
+01:18:03.620 --> 01:18:09.220
+selling of the remnants of tests and this kind of thing um if this kind of of suit were to catch
+
+01:18:09.220 --> 01:18:17.140
+momentum it would also be a really wonderful opening for us to readdress this age group because i
+
+01:18:17.140 --> 01:18:22.020
+do think that there's a purposefully they're purposefully disconnected from us i don't want
+
+01:18:22.020 --> 01:18:28.340
+to make any parallels to to too many other historical times when these these things happened but
+
+01:18:28.340 --> 01:18:35.780
+it does feel as though these college kids were really challenged um to stand up for themselves
+
+01:18:35.780 --> 01:18:40.900
+and they were really beat down pretty hard um by these universities in a coercive manner i mean
+
+01:18:40.900 --> 01:18:48.900
+in a coordinated manner um i mean i i i i i i have a like uh i i my views we basically robbed the
+
+01:18:48.900 --> 01:18:53.620
+young younger generation it with with the idea that we're going to protect older older generation
+
+01:18:53.700 --> 01:18:58.340
+middle-aged people so it's a generational theft and i don't think that the young people are going
+
+01:18:58.340 --> 01:19:02.660
+to treat us very kindly in there in how they think about us and you know we just we deserve it
+
+01:19:04.180 --> 01:19:10.420
+yeah it's uh well if we can we still have time to write the ship i feel like um
+
+01:19:11.380 --> 01:19:18.420
+i still feel like we have time to uh to i mean but people are all going to have to take their
+
+01:19:18.500 --> 01:19:23.700
+responsibility for what they did and how long it took them to to realize that we were being
+
+01:19:23.700 --> 01:19:31.220
+herded and rushed and uh and coerced i mean i i i i i i i i i i'm like i'm by nature optimistic
+
+01:19:31.220 --> 01:19:34.820
+day but i have to say like i've been watching the uk covid inquiry i don't know if you've been watching
+
+01:19:34.820 --> 01:19:41.940
+it at all not directly no it's a whitewash it's a whitewash and you have like these people who who
+
+01:19:41.940 --> 01:19:46.980
+basically were the architects of the lockdowns giving themselves awards you know tony thought
+
+01:19:46.980 --> 01:19:52.020
+she's a professor at georgetown now you've got uh you have all these like people who were who were
+
+01:19:53.060 --> 01:19:59.940
+basically created a an unprecedented uh authoritarian approach to the pandemic
+
+01:20:00.980 --> 01:20:06.660
+and uh caused harm at such scale and they're they're essentially trying to pretend like like the
+
+01:20:06.660 --> 01:20:13.060
+the the basic idea of the of the basic economic premise of the uk uh covid inquiry that's far seems
+
+01:20:13.060 --> 01:20:17.860
+to be that well we just didn't lock if we'd only locked down harder and earlier it all would have
+
+01:20:17.860 --> 01:20:27.460
+been fine see china did it in january 2020 we could have done it um that i think is rapidly becoming
+
+01:20:27.460 --> 01:20:34.980
+the the the the standard playbook for managing pandemics and so that means that the next time
+
+01:20:34.980 --> 01:20:40.340
+anything like this happens we will do this again and we will lock down the by demonstration has a
+
+01:20:40.340 --> 01:20:46.980
+plan in place that says in the next pandemic we will have a vaccine it available at scale within
+
+01:20:46.980 --> 01:20:54.740
+130 days how do you test a vaccine for long-term consequences within 130 days and they've already
+
+01:20:54.740 --> 01:20:59.860
+done it right they've already tested it in five billion people so all all future vaccines using
+
+01:20:59.860 --> 01:21:06.340
+mr and a are safe by their rationale i mean i just saw uh al experience and highlighted this uh a
+
+01:21:06.420 --> 01:21:13.140
+report that there was a uh what was the vaccine the mr and a platform vaccine for ebv
+
+01:21:13.140 --> 01:21:19.380
+Epstein bar virus that caused myocarditis in this in a in a in an early trial in a young man
+
+01:21:20.580 --> 01:21:28.420
+um and they stopped the trial this is Moderna I think um i think the the so i think that the
+
+01:21:28.420 --> 01:21:35.860
+idea that we the plan is for future pandemics we uh we have a rapid vaccine the consequence of
+
+01:21:35.860 --> 01:21:41.460
+that then is is like just if you take it back one step is what will we do for those 130 days
+
+01:21:41.460 --> 01:21:46.980
+while we're waiting for the test of the vaccine lock down of course we'll lock down essentially
+
+01:21:46.980 --> 01:21:52.100
+that's the plan that is the current template so i think we need a political movement we need a
+
+01:21:52.100 --> 01:21:57.220
+legal movement to undo that and of course this is what the world health organization is creating
+
+01:21:57.300 --> 01:22:05.380
+this like uh this this new uh new new uh pandemic treaty it's an opportunity actually in early in
+
+01:22:05.380 --> 01:22:11.620
+2024 to put put that front and center in the in the presidential debate do we want that if the
+
+01:22:11.620 --> 01:22:16.180
+united states has no to it it'll have it'll send a powerful signal around the world do we want that
+
+01:22:16.180 --> 01:22:22.260
+let's make that into a political issue interesting i'm gonna shift back to data for a second but i'm
+
+01:22:22.340 --> 01:22:26.980
+not gonna i just drew some data and i want to ask you a question um because i've been trying
+
+01:22:26.980 --> 01:22:32.500
+to figure this out and whether it means anything or not but maybe you can help me um so if i
+
+01:22:32.500 --> 01:22:37.700
+reverse this over here and put myself down here this is my really bad drawing can you see that
+
+01:22:37.700 --> 01:22:45.940
+of an age pyramid so um doesn't look like that anymore about nowadays on the on the the x axis
+
+01:22:45.940 --> 01:22:51.540
+going up is age and then this is males and females and so you hear you see a population where there's
+
+01:22:51.540 --> 01:22:56.820
+fewer old people than there are babies and it kind of goes up with a uh a more or less
+
+01:22:56.820 --> 01:23:04.980
+pyramidal distribution what role do you think if any a distribution different than that whatever it
+
+01:23:04.980 --> 01:23:12.260
+would be but with a top heavy distribution could have been seen coming and used as part of the way
+
+01:23:12.260 --> 01:23:17.780
+to create the panic that would you know exaggerate any exercise like this do you do you see that as
+
+01:23:17.780 --> 01:23:22.180
+a possibility i've never seen anybody really look into this and because that could really
+
+01:23:22.180 --> 01:23:29.220
+explain an age vulnerability or it could explain a vulnerability to protocols or or or any number
+
+01:23:29.220 --> 01:23:35.540
+of things this could be used against us that couldn't necessarily wouldn't be present in a
+
+01:23:35.540 --> 01:23:40.500
+country like Peru or a country like or maybe it is in Peru i don't know they're off the top of my
+
+01:23:40.500 --> 01:23:44.660
+head what they look like but uh i think you understand the question i'm asking everyone about
+
+01:23:44.660 --> 01:23:49.860
+so that's a really great question uh i i don't think i've heard anyone no one's asked me
+
+01:23:49.860 --> 01:23:55.220
+this in that way and so it's it's a really interesting question so like i think so first of all um that
+
+01:23:55.220 --> 01:24:00.900
+pen that pyramid you had on the left the age pyramid you had on the left that is the traditional
+
+01:24:00.900 --> 01:24:07.140
+age pyramid that we had through much of the 20th century yeah right right exactly um it's
+
+01:24:08.020 --> 01:24:13.860
+it's not a surprise that we didn't lock down for century respiratory virus pandemics given that
+
+01:24:13.940 --> 01:24:20.660
+age pyramid right we essentially like during in 1968 there was a massive flu pandemic in the
+
+01:24:20.660 --> 01:24:31.300
+united states and we had we had a woodstock happen during it right uh 1968 1957 1976 even
+
+01:24:31.300 --> 01:24:40.900
+2009 we uh the idea was develop uh uh treatments try to repurpose drugs that they're they're already
+
+01:24:41.220 --> 01:24:44.820
+they're focus protection on the most vulnerable people which were that little tiny group at the
+
+01:24:44.820 --> 01:24:49.540
+top um and and for the rest of the population don't you know the idea of a lockdown would be
+
+01:24:49.540 --> 01:24:54.660
+unthinkable um of course also the other thing that played in that is like like zoom and this
+
+01:24:54.660 --> 01:25:00.260
+kind of technology actually allowed uh a certain class of people to think that they could escape
+
+01:25:00.820 --> 01:25:06.580
+the harms of the lockdown so now let's go to the pyramid on the right uh it doesn't quite look
+
+01:25:06.580 --> 01:25:10.980
+like that but like in the united states but it looks a little bit like that um uh where
+
+01:25:10.980 --> 01:25:17.380
+where it's top heavy you have a large a group of people uh in the older population um and uh
+
+01:25:17.380 --> 01:25:23.460
+actually a much smaller younger population the the political power of that population is enormous
+
+01:25:23.460 --> 01:25:28.980
+the the orientation of public health toward that that that that that group up at top is it is
+
+01:25:28.980 --> 01:25:34.820
+enormous um it's then i guess that particularly surprising that you would see public health make
+
+01:25:34.820 --> 01:25:40.580
+decisions with aiming at trying to protect that population at the expense of the population
+
+01:25:41.380 --> 01:25:47.780
+because it's small this is just smaller and less powerful um i i do think that it's i mean the
+
+01:25:47.780 --> 01:25:53.380
+irony is that it ended up they ended up harming old people too like that like there's data that
+
+01:25:53.380 --> 01:25:59.620
+came out uh in 2020 suggesting that there was a like a huge increase in deaths from dementia
+
+01:25:59.700 --> 01:26:04.580
+because you isolate old people you cause all kinds of harm to them i think the irony is like
+
+01:26:04.580 --> 01:26:12.180
+by by by trying to protect older people via a lockdown via these draconian measures you ended
+
+01:26:12.180 --> 01:26:19.620
+up harming them and also alienating and harming the the that uh huge numbers of young people um
+
+01:26:19.620 --> 01:26:24.500
+that population pyramid that you're absolutely right i i hadn't like uh i hadn't thought about
+
+01:26:24.500 --> 01:26:29.060
+bringing that together but i think that played a big big role in especially when you connect
+
+01:26:29.060 --> 01:26:35.860
+it with political power or the various generations um big role in in the the strategies that we
+
+01:26:35.860 --> 01:26:40.980
+follow the and the policies that we follow during during during during covid and potentially the
+
+01:26:40.980 --> 01:26:47.700
+the the outcome right if we if we could see that pyramid accurately and could expect a
+
+01:26:48.660 --> 01:26:53.860
+a two or three year brief increase in all cause mortality because these old people are getting
+
+01:26:53.860 --> 01:27:01.940
+past expected age of death then that could have been empowering or or how's what's the right
+
+01:27:01.940 --> 01:27:08.900
+word it could have facilitated this in in terms of their ability to exaggerate it as much as possible
+
+01:27:09.540 --> 01:27:13.540
+um i want to try and formulate this right but is there any
+
+01:27:16.100 --> 01:27:22.420
+combination of data and testimony or or a specific data set that you would need
+
+01:27:23.300 --> 01:27:30.420
+to see where you would start to consider the possibility that that that there was no more
+
+01:27:30.420 --> 01:27:37.300
+significant spread in 2020 than there was back in 2002 where 10,000 people were supposedly
+
+01:27:37.300 --> 01:27:44.260
+infected and 700 people died and so if we had the data to show that actually just by scaring
+
+01:27:44.260 --> 01:27:51.140
+everybody which we've already acknowledged has a huge effect um and also adding that up right
+
+01:27:51.140 --> 01:27:58.660
+because you in my mind uh one has to factor in not just that we were misled about ventilators
+
+01:27:58.660 --> 01:28:04.500
+and not just that they went crazy on our on our constitutional rights but that that all occurred
+
+01:28:05.060 --> 01:28:09.700
+at the same they decided that all of these things were a good idea at the same time including the
+
+01:28:09.700 --> 01:28:17.460
+line and so the question becomes then at what point are we obligated to take their word or
+
+01:28:18.180 --> 01:28:26.100
+or how do we verify that and in a real bona fide pandemic occurred as opposed to
+
+01:28:26.740 --> 01:28:31.220
+a flash in the pan that they knew already would only be a flash in the pan or a
+
+01:28:32.180 --> 01:28:36.340
+a background signal that they knew they could take advantage of maybe even they put it there
+
+01:28:36.340 --> 01:28:42.740
+i mean that's obviously crazy but it in light of what we know about how we're governed on all
+
+01:28:42.820 --> 01:28:50.420
+other aspects of our reality how often they will lie about political things uh and and funding for
+
+01:28:51.380 --> 01:28:59.380
+for highways and and and whatever else um it just seems to me very difficult to dismiss the
+
+01:28:59.380 --> 01:29:06.900
+possibility that as i said before that that we are not doing an accurate accounting and if we did
+
+01:29:06.980 --> 01:29:10.980
+an accurate accounting especially from the epidemiological perspective we might find
+
+01:29:11.700 --> 01:29:17.780
+that none of these models will fit if you had the real data i mean i question for example we go
+
+01:29:17.780 --> 01:29:24.020
+back to that that the model you know as you extend the variables and change it to fit things um
+
+01:29:25.220 --> 01:29:32.420
+one has to do that in every separate geography then in order to fit an sir model to every outbreak
+
+01:29:32.420 --> 01:29:38.820
+that occurred so you can do that in an isolated place but if you take into account all the timing
+
+01:29:38.820 --> 01:29:45.540
+of those isolated fits then there's no spread between them and there's no additive effect
+
+01:29:45.540 --> 01:29:50.100
+and there there are none of these things that would be expected from again what is supposed to
+
+01:29:50.100 --> 01:29:55.860
+be a relatively uniform pathogen that started at a point and those are the kinds of things that
+
+01:29:56.420 --> 01:30:02.020
+it seems to me aren't accurately reflected on anymore with the idea of just saying well it happened
+
+01:30:02.500 --> 01:30:10.340
+obviously it happened and obviously something happened but i wonder if we're we're giving them
+
+01:30:10.340 --> 01:30:18.340
+too much benefit of the doubt with regard to did they get it right or not i mean i i guess so a
+
+01:30:18.340 --> 01:30:22.340
+couple there's a few elements of that so like first uh the scientific element right so you're
+
+01:30:22.340 --> 01:30:30.500
+asking um if i if i if i can rephrase it a little bit if you're asking what would uh lead to a
+
+01:30:30.580 --> 01:30:37.700
+rejection of uh an sir kind of framework what data set would one need to reject an sir
+
+01:30:37.700 --> 01:30:42.180
+kind of framework i mean i do think that's possible i don't think i don't think that the sir model
+
+01:30:42.180 --> 01:30:51.540
+has zero empirical content like you can you can see uh phenomena like you know just take take
+
+01:30:51.540 --> 01:30:57.460
+the spread of uh take take uh the rise of obesity in a population right it's really hard to fit that
+
+01:30:57.460 --> 01:31:05.940
+in sir framework it just doesn't like the the model it doesn't look like a infectious idea
+
+01:31:07.940 --> 01:31:12.660
+so it's not that that sir framework is devoid of empirical content it's it's but it is a very
+
+01:31:12.660 --> 01:31:21.060
+broad model so that you can get very large very very diverse phenomena that fit under some
+
+01:31:21.060 --> 01:31:25.700
+parameterization of an sir model now of course that's different from saying it's true it just
+
+01:31:25.700 --> 01:31:32.420
+just means it's survived uh of a an attack on it based on a falsification test right so i mean
+
+01:31:32.420 --> 01:31:37.140
+that's i don't i don't know i i think um you know like social science phenomena are funny in this
+
+01:31:37.140 --> 01:31:45.300
+way right it's not like physics they're often multiple stories that explain something that's
+
+01:31:45.300 --> 01:31:51.940
+happening in a social science setting and uh i mean i guess as uh with my background i kind of
+
+01:31:51.940 --> 01:31:59.940
+become very comfortable with the the existence of multiple stories and it's uh but i also become
+
+01:32:00.580 --> 01:32:07.220
+i understand like how challenging it is to try to decompose the phenomena that you see as you
+
+01:32:07.220 --> 01:32:15.220
+said we saw what we saw what we saw it happened um what how much each explanation for the various
+
+01:32:15.940 --> 01:32:21.220
+things that led to that thing that we saw happen are responsible like we're still arguing over the
+
+01:32:21.220 --> 01:32:26.980
+great depression you know uh 80 years later as to the particular like the the various things
+
+01:32:26.980 --> 01:32:32.900
+that we think caused it i think the one it's the one trying to come up with some analogy and the
+
+01:32:32.900 --> 01:32:38.180
+one that keeps coming back to me which is falling short always but it's the best one i got is
+
+01:32:39.060 --> 01:32:45.780
+can you imagine a scenario and where they convinced us that before the pandemic there were no cars
+
+01:32:46.740 --> 01:32:52.180
+and then they told us but there's a real easy test we can sell you a test um and when you
+
+01:32:52.180 --> 01:32:57.940
+swab your garage and you find rubber and it's in the around shape you've got a car
+
+01:32:58.500 --> 01:33:03.060
+and not everybody's going to have you know not everybody's going to smell like gasoline not
+
+01:33:03.060 --> 01:33:07.940
+everybody's going to be driving in a car some people can have a car and be asymptomatic and
+
+01:33:07.940 --> 01:33:13.220
+they take their bike to work all the time but you've got a car in your garage and they could
+
+01:33:13.380 --> 01:33:18.260
+convince us that this is spreading around the world when in fact it was in the background all
+
+01:33:18.260 --> 01:33:23.940
+the time all they have to do is never have any data about cars before this and they don't have
+
+01:33:23.940 --> 01:33:30.020
+any data about SARS-CoV-2 and related viruses before this in a from a global perspective they
+
+01:33:30.020 --> 01:33:36.020
+have it from a few hundred bats in a and a few other places um and it's wherever they look they
+
+01:33:36.020 --> 01:33:42.820
+kind of find a signal um and so i'm really and i'm not trying to beat a dead horse or or push you
+
+01:33:42.900 --> 01:33:46.820
+in a direction you don't want to discuss no no this is i think it's really interesting i feel
+
+01:33:46.820 --> 01:33:51.940
+i feel that there's also this extra portion which we talked about before we turned on the
+
+01:33:51.940 --> 01:33:59.940
+the stream that that um they are especially out on a limb when they imply that this phenomenon
+
+01:33:59.940 --> 01:34:06.180
+is being driven by an RNA molecule um i would actually have a lot harder time biologically
+
+01:34:07.140 --> 01:34:13.860
+uh discussing this if somehow or another there was a high fidelity DNA molecule at the center of
+
+01:34:13.860 --> 01:34:18.900
+this with a whole host of enzymes that we've never seen before and other attributes which could
+
+01:34:18.900 --> 01:34:26.020
+explain how something that was released at a point could then result in a high fidelity spread that
+
+01:34:26.020 --> 01:34:31.780
+you know that if you do some of the funny calculations like how many viruses would be in the wet market
+
+01:34:31.860 --> 01:34:37.700
+and then how many are there now and there's this many cases um it's an extraordinary biological
+
+01:34:37.700 --> 01:34:43.460
+phenomenon that they claim happened um and with no precedence in in previous biology there's no
+
+01:34:43.460 --> 01:34:48.580
+evidence of an RNA molecule that's capable of copying itself to this degree we've never seen
+
+01:34:48.580 --> 01:34:54.100
+a background signal with this degree of fidelity before so it it begs the question of whether
+
+01:34:54.100 --> 01:35:01.460
+that was always there um so a couple of notes um made while you're talking like what for
+
+01:35:01.460 --> 01:35:08.580
+for which you said so one is um it it's not without precedent that there would be uh a
+
+01:35:08.580 --> 01:35:15.380
+test dentic if you will it that has happened and even even in the recent past it was like 2008
+
+01:35:15.940 --> 01:35:24.020
+in Dartmouth there was a there was a huge number of people that were diagnosed with pertussis
+
+01:35:24.980 --> 01:35:32.260
+which should be pretty rare and especially since so many people have had the DPT vaccine
+
+01:35:32.260 --> 01:35:37.780
+at scale that it should if you shouldn't have seen such a massive outbreak of pertussis in a
+
+01:35:37.780 --> 01:35:44.020
+place like Dartmouth New Hampshire um I think it was 2008 I'm trying to blank the blanking on the date
+
+01:35:44.660 --> 01:35:49.380
+if you type in pertussis Dartmouth New York Times you'll find the New York Times story about this
+
+01:35:49.860 --> 01:35:59.860
+um the uh it turned out that it was based on a faulty test that in fact the pertussis uh diagnosis
+
+01:35:59.860 --> 01:36:06.100
+was was which was made on the base of the test and then just some you know coughing symptoms um
+
+01:36:06.100 --> 01:36:10.820
+was actually a false diagnosis the test itself was picking up pertussis that didn't exist that
+
+01:36:10.820 --> 01:36:16.340
+there wasn't there there was a false positive pure false positive and that that that the outbreak
+
+01:36:16.420 --> 01:36:22.420
+then was not actually pertussis but people had panicked around this you know sort of dangerous
+
+01:36:22.420 --> 01:36:28.180
+disease spreading around because of the test so I'm not saying that that's not possible that
+
+01:36:28.180 --> 01:36:34.500
+certainly is possible there what happened was that people found out that the test was faulty uh that
+
+01:36:35.460 --> 01:36:41.700
+and so faulty that it uh that then then they go back into a core correlation it's like okay
+
+01:36:41.700 --> 01:36:50.100
+yeah we were we were misdiagnosing this um so at the end of 2020 just to put a put a uh an anecdotal
+
+01:36:50.100 --> 01:36:58.500
+data point on the field at the end of 2020 the FDA had approved 226 different EUA test products
+
+01:36:59.220 --> 01:37:08.020
+so it wasn't one faulty test there was a possibly over 200 tests with various faulty properties
+
+01:37:08.020 --> 01:37:13.860
+now it all had to be false I think that so like I I mean you're the expert on the biology of this
+
+01:37:13.860 --> 01:37:20.100
+I don't know how to speak to the uh the RNA fidelity um but I will say like I think there's
+
+01:37:20.740 --> 01:37:27.220
+I don't think we've ever tested the uh a virus spreading or a disease spreading at scale the way
+
+01:37:27.220 --> 01:37:34.980
+we've tested this thing huge just I mean unimaginable numbers of tests and not just tests but like
+
+01:37:34.980 --> 01:37:41.300
+genetic sequencing of of of the viruses and I wonder if we if we did this to every single virus
+
+01:37:41.300 --> 01:37:47.700
+what we would find we probably haven't we've not probably we haven't looked like our systems
+
+01:37:47.700 --> 01:37:52.980
+even for flu for instance are these like sentinel labs very little sequencing there's some sequencing
+
+01:37:52.980 --> 01:37:58.100
+but not as much not not nearly as much I want to I want to throw one thing in there just because
+
+01:37:58.100 --> 01:38:03.540
+I feel like it's something you might not be aware of given the discussion we're having now um prior
+
+01:38:03.540 --> 01:38:09.780
+to 2020 if you go back to all these papers where they're looking at coronaviruses um the main
+
+01:38:09.780 --> 01:38:17.540
+strategy using PCR was to target a 350 base pair amplicon of the RNA dependent RNA polymerase the
+
+01:38:17.540 --> 01:38:26.180
+most conserved region of the most vital protein in the viral genome and indeed depending on the
+
+01:38:26.180 --> 01:38:33.940
+country and depending on the the test you're looking at there was an RNA dependent polymerase
+
+01:38:34.900 --> 01:38:41.060
+amplicon there was also an N protein or an E protein amplicon the interesting thing about N and E are
+
+01:38:41.060 --> 01:38:47.620
+also these are proteins that are relatively homologous across coronaviruses so one of the things that I
+
+01:38:47.620 --> 01:38:54.020
+think we have to somehow or another get all the way to the finish line is to resolve this idea that
+
+01:38:54.100 --> 01:39:00.180
+the PCR was specific enough to be used in the way it was used and that's also part of this
+
+01:39:00.740 --> 01:39:07.060
+conflated background signal if you were searching for RNA noise and there's always RNA noise there
+
+01:39:07.060 --> 01:39:13.860
+so you're going to get a certain percentage um of a positive signal this is also why I believe
+
+01:39:14.500 --> 01:39:21.140
+it's dangerous to focus exclusively on the overcycling of the PCR because that dismisses and it limits
+
+01:39:21.140 --> 01:39:27.060
+the debate to where this where this malfeasance could occur and it doesn't have to be with overcycling
+
+01:39:27.060 --> 01:39:32.100
+it could be that there is a conflated background signal and all of these people unwittingly or
+
+01:39:32.100 --> 01:39:38.500
+unwittingly took advantage of that um it's it's confusion frustration and doubt but it's it is
+
+01:39:38.500 --> 01:39:43.060
+something that the precedence of the biology of coronaviruses before the pandemic is that they
+
+01:39:43.060 --> 01:39:49.380
+lamented that there wasn't a pan coronavirus primer set so that they could just find them
+
+01:39:49.380 --> 01:39:57.620
+easier that mark von Ronsky has a paper from 2008 or nine where he is specifically trying to
+
+01:39:57.620 --> 01:40:02.100
+develop a pan coronavirus vaccine and makes the argument that it's easy because there's so many
+
+01:40:02.100 --> 01:40:07.380
+homologous proteins so there's a lot of precedence for the possibility and a lot of biological
+
+01:40:08.180 --> 01:40:12.500
+possibility there with regard to how much is homologous and if they just pull the bait and switch
+
+01:40:12.500 --> 01:40:17.940
+sometimes it could be really specific and other times it might not be and I'm afraid we've lost
+
+01:40:17.940 --> 01:40:23.460
+this huge history of of all of these EUA products many of which are not even available
+
+01:40:23.460 --> 01:40:27.620
+anymore they're totally gone just like I mean a lot of these sequencing labs are totally gone
+
+01:40:28.820 --> 01:40:36.340
+and so it becomes very very tricky now because we I feel like we have a lot of assumptions that we
+
+01:40:36.340 --> 01:40:44.260
+need to re-question and I think that's what this you know lack of spread also has spurred me on
+
+01:40:44.260 --> 01:40:49.620
+to do I'm sorry there's no question there no worries actually it's interesting because I
+
+01:40:49.620 --> 01:40:56.340
+remember when Amacron came the way that they originally diagnosed Amacron at scale versus Delta
+
+01:40:56.340 --> 01:41:03.140
+was that you know there's my now you please correct me Jake because you're the biologist not me but
+
+01:41:03.140 --> 01:41:08.580
+there was three primers that are used and you needed to have matching of all three primers to diagnose
+
+01:41:08.580 --> 01:41:15.300
+COVID diagnosed the SARS-CoV-2 virus when Amacron came the problem was only two of the three primers
+
+01:41:15.300 --> 01:41:22.260
+need matched Amacron and so they inferred Amacron from matching just two of the three primers
+
+01:41:24.100 --> 01:41:29.380
+which strikes me as funny right because but it's so I and I and I hear your point about the the
+
+01:41:29.380 --> 01:41:35.860
+existence of so many PCS I should say like for me the the cycling problem is that is it's such a
+
+01:41:35.860 --> 01:41:39.780
+huge problem I take your point that there's it does it's not sufficient for what you want but
+
+01:41:39.780 --> 01:41:47.540
+for is what for me it was sufficient to make me wonder about the use of the the the test testing
+
+01:41:47.540 --> 01:41:53.380
+the way they had it if if you have like I remember there was a there's a center for evidence-based
+
+01:41:53.380 --> 01:42:00.420
+medicine report by Carl Huntington and Tom Jefferson on the cycling problem and what they what they
+
+01:42:00.820 --> 01:42:05.380
+did was like a literature review pretty high quality literature review looking at
+
+01:42:07.140 --> 01:42:12.500
+the correlation between the number of cycles you needed to get a positive signal and whether the
+
+01:42:12.500 --> 01:42:20.420
+original sample was infectious in in the in vitro and you know what you see is this like just this
+
+01:42:20.420 --> 01:42:26.180
+like you know 20 20 cycles it's 100 percent in fact 100 percent of the samples are infectious
+
+01:42:26.180 --> 01:42:33.060
+by like 27 cycles it's like 50 percent and by 30 cycles it's like you know pretty low by 40
+
+01:42:33.060 --> 01:42:42.820
+cycles at zero right um that has huge implications for the epidemiological policy and clinical use
+
+01:42:42.820 --> 01:42:51.780
+which is my my uh bailiway that should have it should have told people you don't you don't quarantine
+
+01:42:51.780 --> 01:42:58.020
+people if it takes 40 40 cycles to like find a positive in fact you couldn't even have done
+
+01:42:58.020 --> 01:43:01.700
+like like I didn't understand why people weren't doing this like they could have done if they
+
+01:43:01.700 --> 01:43:06.820
+were really serious they said they said they said they want to say okay is the virus replicating in
+
+01:43:06.820 --> 01:43:12.900
+the human well you could do a PCR test one day and let's say it takes 30 cycles to be positive and
+
+01:43:12.900 --> 01:43:18.660
+the next day it takes 26 cycles to be positive well I mean that now you have some evidence that
+
+01:43:18.660 --> 01:43:24.180
+you have two to the fourth uh doublings that have happened right um in the in the person so you
+
+01:43:24.180 --> 01:43:31.300
+could have like used serial PCR's again leaving aside the the false positives which you know you
+
+01:43:31.300 --> 01:43:37.220
+can talk about uh but you know more about than me um but like the serial false positive like the
+
+01:43:37.220 --> 01:43:43.300
+serial test to like see with just the cyclings whether someone is actually becoming infectious
+
+01:43:43.300 --> 01:43:49.540
+or not and use that information epidemiologically from with recommendations to quarantine or not
+
+01:43:49.540 --> 01:43:54.580
+whereas someone who's like 30 cycles 30 cycles 30 cycles left them out of quarantine there are
+
+01:43:54.580 --> 01:44:00.420
+students at Stanford that were putting that were like like athletes that were tested over and over
+
+01:44:00.420 --> 01:44:05.460
+again that were just positive all the time are you sure that there's not a time lapse
+
+01:44:05.460 --> 01:44:10.900
+acute PCR paper because if there isn't that's an actually a really huge insight that you just made
+
+01:44:10.900 --> 01:44:16.420
+there i haven't seen one i mean i i've made a case i've made a case like this in a port document
+
+01:44:16.420 --> 01:44:21.220
+in for a couple of places where i was an expert witness suggesting that this was this would be
+
+01:44:21.220 --> 01:44:27.460
+a reasonable use of the PCR test um but uh but the but the but the lab folks on the other side were
+
+01:44:27.460 --> 01:44:32.740
+just very dismissive of me um my chat is correcting you you're actually a biologist because you're
+
+01:44:32.740 --> 01:44:38.660
+also a professor of medicine sorry well i mean i my my backgrounds at fringe epidemiology and
+
+01:44:38.740 --> 01:44:45.220
+economic stress hey so i want to do one more PCR thing just so that you have it on your radar um
+
+01:44:45.220 --> 01:44:53.300
+so in talking to the the head of the PCR testing in Canada um i don't remember his name off the
+
+01:44:53.300 --> 01:45:00.340
+top of my head so he happens to listen i very much apologize um they did not use nested primers in
+
+01:45:00.420 --> 01:45:08.820
+Canada across the entire country um which which i and i i just want to give you this for from the
+
+01:45:08.820 --> 01:45:12.980
+perspective of cocktail parties or anytime you get to talk to another academic biologist who
+
+01:45:12.980 --> 01:45:21.620
+insists that PCR is highly accurate like insanely accurate um it is very much my understanding that
+
+01:45:22.260 --> 01:45:29.460
+academic biologists are making this assumption that like they do there are positive and negative
+
+01:45:29.460 --> 01:45:36.660
+controls both of which use nested primers and in reality none of the e-way products use nested
+
+01:45:36.660 --> 01:45:41.060
+primers and none of the products that were approved in Canada were using nested primers which
+
+01:45:41.860 --> 01:45:48.740
+is makes it orders of magnitude easier um to have a false positive because remember they're
+
+01:45:48.740 --> 01:45:54.420
+reading fluorescence so with qPCR i i'm just gonna say it in case you are not aware of it but i'm
+
+01:45:54.420 --> 01:46:00.020
+assuming my my readers or my listeners aren't qPCR is a reaction that occurs with some kind of
+
+01:46:00.020 --> 01:46:08.740
+understood reaction uh reaction dynamics and those reaction dynamics can tell you a little bit about
+
+01:46:08.740 --> 01:46:14.740
+how well the PCR primers match because the better that they match the more complete each cycle will
+
+01:46:14.740 --> 01:46:21.380
+be in doubling if they don't match as well then the doubling will not fit the exponential growth
+
+01:46:21.380 --> 01:46:26.660
+curve in it will be more linear and that linear signal in any of these products that just goes
+
+01:46:26.660 --> 01:46:33.140
+on the on the fluorescence won't be visible to anybody that's reading them and so a lot of these
+
+01:46:33.780 --> 01:46:39.220
+products almost have this built-in possibility that if you're not really trying to use them for
+
+01:46:39.220 --> 01:46:44.740
+accuracy but you're trying to use them for mass measurement it will go really terribly wrong
+
+01:46:45.700 --> 01:46:51.700
+and so i i've had a lot of conversations with my former academic colleagues where they're very
+
+01:46:51.700 --> 01:46:57.700
+surprised and actually completely incredulous that of course they use nested primers and i i'm sorry
+
+01:46:57.700 --> 01:47:02.500
+to disappoint you but they didn't i mean i i think um
+
+01:47:05.700 --> 01:47:09.620
+from a policy point of view i mean actually it's just from a clinical point of view let's say
+
+01:47:10.180 --> 01:47:16.740
+uh like what i learned in medical school was that you should never treat a number or test
+
+01:47:16.740 --> 01:47:22.980
+you treat a patient like you want to have a full clinical picture before you make real decisions
+
+01:47:22.980 --> 01:47:30.500
+about about what uh what the right thing to do is um the the um the epidemiologists that were that
+
+01:47:30.500 --> 01:47:36.020
+were like the architects of the policy i think the way they were reasoning was well it doesn't
+
+01:47:36.100 --> 01:47:43.140
+matter if you get a false positive what matters is a false negative that's actually true they
+
+01:47:43.140 --> 01:47:48.740
+probably did convince a lot of people with that argument yes yeah and i think that that's i mean
+
+01:47:48.740 --> 01:47:53.380
+that's my best reading of what happened like they just said there was a virtue to minimize
+
+01:47:53.380 --> 01:47:58.260
+the false negatives to zero and and we've had false positive at a scale it doesn't matter
+
+01:47:58.980 --> 01:48:03.380
+what nothing that we're doing as far as they were concerned none of the policies they were
+
+01:48:03.380 --> 01:48:06.900
+implementing were costly or harmful in any way that was worth taking into account
+
+01:48:08.260 --> 01:48:14.980
+and so if you impose it on somebody on the on a false basis of a false positive that's that's not
+
+01:48:14.980 --> 01:48:20.020
+a big deal it doesn't matter whereas if you have false negative well that person might spread the
+
+01:48:20.020 --> 01:48:24.420
+disease to grandma uh and uh thinking that they're positive that they're that they're actually
+
+01:48:24.420 --> 01:48:30.580
+negative when they're actually positive um so so i i think that that's really the underlying
+
+01:48:30.580 --> 01:48:34.660
+dynamic we saw here with all of the decisions because every single one of these decisions
+
+01:48:34.660 --> 01:48:40.180
+about testing is a is a is a is a there's a lot of technical language but the key thing is
+
+01:48:41.460 --> 01:48:46.340
+what does it do to make the sensitivity and specificity of the test how should we interpret
+
+01:48:46.340 --> 01:48:53.140
+the test what's the prevalence of the disease these are like basic epidemiological ideas that
+
+01:48:53.140 --> 01:49:01.700
+were just essentially tuned to to create panic tuned to create uh you may you see each of these
+
+01:49:01.700 --> 01:49:06.900
+decisions dismissing the possibility of false positive is like because the idea is like well
+
+01:49:06.900 --> 01:49:14.660
+it's it's just a virtue to have almost no false negatives yeah that really makes a lot of sense
+
+01:49:14.660 --> 01:49:20.660
+and it's a frightening um clarity that it sets to that too because um i always make this argument
+
+01:49:20.740 --> 01:49:27.380
+on my stream that so much can be done in a closed meeting um to convince people to behave in
+
+01:49:27.380 --> 01:49:32.660
+concert um if you make them feel important that this is a national security question and we don't
+
+01:49:32.660 --> 01:49:38.100
+know what's going to happen and we need your help um there's lots of ways where i think people
+
+01:49:38.100 --> 01:49:44.660
+could have been influenced to kind of at least keep their head down for a while um and again if
+
+01:49:44.660 --> 01:49:48.980
+you put your head up and you you encountered what you encountered or what i encountered then you
+
+01:49:48.980 --> 01:49:54.740
+probably kept your head down too um we have been talking for one hour and forty six
+
+01:49:54.740 --> 01:49:58.260
+we've been talking for one hour and forty six minutes i don't want to take too much more of your
+
+01:49:58.260 --> 01:50:04.820
+time i i just i want to say thank you i want to give a shout out to um Greg Glassman and Emily
+
+01:50:04.820 --> 01:50:11.700
+Kaplan of the broken science initiative that serendipitous serendipitously brought us together
+
+01:50:11.700 --> 01:50:17.700
+at their gatherings um i have them to thank you for your friendship and i can't thank you enough
+
+01:50:17.700 --> 01:50:21.140
+for taking the time to argue with me and discuss this stuff with me it was been great
+
+01:50:21.700 --> 01:50:25.540
+yeah i've learned a lot from you not just from this podcast but from over the whole
+
+01:50:25.540 --> 01:50:30.100
+whole last three years and grateful for you as well my friend that's really uh way too much
+
+01:50:30.100 --> 01:50:35.460
+praise for me thank you very much though um you're welcome to come back i have a whole four
+
+01:50:35.460 --> 01:50:39.540
+more pages of questions i didn't get to because we discussed everything in too much depth so
+
+01:50:40.260 --> 01:50:43.380
+when you have a spare board moment you can always let me know
+
+01:50:43.940 --> 01:50:47.140
+take care jay okay bye bye
+
+01:50:49.620 --> 01:50:55.380
+wow that was uh that was pretty great i'm not going to belabor it too much because at six o'clock
+
+01:50:55.380 --> 01:51:00.820
+i have uh peter makala again so thank you very much for joining me i will see you guys again soon
+
+01:51:01.460 --> 01:51:05.780
+um and that soon is in like 50 minutes so i'm uh
+
+01:51:05.780 --> 01:51:08.900
+i've been doing it for a long time
+
+01:51:08.900 --> 01:51:10.980
+so i'm going to change the password to my zoom
+
+01:51:10.980 --> 01:51:15.860
+but i'm going to send it to you um so i will see you guys again very soon
+
+01:51:15.860 --> 01:51:19.060
+thank you for having me back in the flash
+
+01:51:20.020 --> 01:51:24.100
+right
+
+01:51:38.180 --> 01:51:48.340
+it's better better music
+
+01:51:49.060 --> 01:52:04.060
+50 minutes, 50 minutes at 6 o'clock.
+
+01:52:19.060 --> 01:52:48.060
+50 minutes, 50 minutes at 6 o'clock.
+
+01:52:49.060 --> 01:52:59.060
+50 minutes, 50 minutes at 6 o'clock.
+
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+I should be live now.
+
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+Peter just called me.
+
+00:03.680 --> 00:06.000
+I talked to him on Zoom for about five minutes.
+
+00:06.000 --> 00:08.280
+His voice sounds awful.
+
+00:08.280 --> 00:10.120
+He can't always get sound out
+
+00:10.120 --> 00:12.040
+and you can hear that there's all kinds of stuff in there.
+
+00:12.040 --> 00:14.360
+You can see that he looks very tired
+
+00:14.360 --> 00:15.680
+and he's been working all day.
+
+00:15.680 --> 00:18.100
+So I told him absolutely not.
+
+00:19.040 --> 00:20.680
+We can reschedule this.
+
+00:21.600 --> 00:25.360
+What I wanted to talk to him about today was two things.
+
+00:25.360 --> 00:30.360
+He had a poster, I believe.
+
+00:31.320 --> 00:33.200
+I'm just going to zoom through these really quick.
+
+00:33.200 --> 00:34.040
+Sorry about that.
+
+00:34.040 --> 00:35.480
+I should have pulled that out.
+
+00:40.640 --> 00:44.480
+He's got a poster about the autopsy findings
+
+00:44.480 --> 00:45.800
+that was actually presented
+
+00:45.800 --> 00:48.320
+at a University of Michigan meeting
+
+00:48.320 --> 00:53.320
+and then also labeled as misinformation.
+
+00:54.320 --> 00:56.640
+And then he also, we also have this
+
+00:58.160 --> 01:00.440
+tell him honey and vinegar indeed.
+
+01:00.440 --> 01:03.400
+Hey, we got a package from you today, Pamela.
+
+01:03.400 --> 01:04.360
+That's very sweet.
+
+01:04.360 --> 01:05.600
+I'm supposed to say thank you.
+
+01:05.600 --> 01:09.200
+And apparently at least one person in the house
+
+01:09.200 --> 01:11.360
+is very happy with that package.
+
+01:11.360 --> 01:14.920
+And the other thing that I wanted to talk about with him
+
+01:14.920 --> 01:19.760
+is this paper about a mild cardial assessment
+
+01:19.760 --> 01:24.280
+of function in the heart of vaccinated
+
+01:24.280 --> 01:25.960
+and unvaccinated people.
+
+01:25.960 --> 01:28.040
+And I thought one of the reasons why it might be nice
+
+01:28.040 --> 01:29.720
+to talk to him about this is to try
+
+01:29.720 --> 01:34.240
+and understand exactly how this paper was done.
+
+01:34.240 --> 01:36.960
+And so I did talk to him for about five minutes.
+
+01:36.960 --> 01:41.880
+And the gist of it is that they can use PET scanning
+
+01:41.880 --> 01:46.880
+to see a shift from fatty acid metabolism
+
+01:47.360 --> 01:48.760
+to glucose metabolism.
+
+01:48.760 --> 01:53.600
+And in general, if your heart is damaged or ischemic,
+
+01:53.600 --> 01:55.160
+usually it's ischemic.
+
+01:55.160 --> 01:56.200
+And there is a shift,
+
+01:56.200 --> 01:58.480
+so ischemic means it's low on oxygen.
+
+01:58.480 --> 02:01.560
+There's a shift from fatty acid metabolism
+
+02:01.560 --> 02:02.920
+to glucose metabolism.
+
+02:02.920 --> 02:05.520
+And people that have taken the shot
+
+02:05.520 --> 02:09.880
+seem to have shifted their heart to glucose metabolism.
+
+02:09.880 --> 02:12.480
+And then they can see some correlation
+
+02:12.480 --> 02:15.080
+with pain in the arm and the more pain in the arm,
+
+02:15.080 --> 02:17.560
+you have the more likely arm to have this uptake
+
+02:17.560 --> 02:19.560
+of this dye, which indicates this change
+
+02:19.560 --> 02:21.880
+in metabolic state of those cells.
+
+02:21.880 --> 02:25.760
+So he said it was a really striking finding
+
+02:25.760 --> 02:30.200
+because of the signal was so incredible and uniform it.
+
+02:30.200 --> 02:35.200
+So I think it's an interesting observation
+
+02:36.040 --> 02:38.200
+that I think Peter is just willing to add
+
+02:38.200 --> 02:41.960
+to one of the many reasons why he would probably agree
+
+02:41.960 --> 02:46.960
+that that, come on, man, what's going on?
+
+02:49.480 --> 02:53.360
+Oh, that's a window, I forgot, that's a window, my bad.
+
+02:53.360 --> 02:55.560
+That's probably why he would agree that,
+
+02:57.000 --> 02:59.880
+and now that's moving, why is that moving?
+
+02:59.880 --> 03:02.400
+Goodness sakes, it's just dumb.
+
+03:03.600 --> 03:08.600
+I'm losing my mind here after having J Balacharion,
+
+03:08.720 --> 03:11.020
+that was a really intense conversation.
+
+03:12.960 --> 03:15.160
+I don't think that at this stage,
+
+03:15.160 --> 03:18.920
+Peter would argue with the statements on this screen,
+
+03:18.920 --> 03:20.200
+except for maybe the bottom one,
+
+03:20.200 --> 03:22.880
+simply because he's not a virologist
+
+03:22.880 --> 03:26.280
+or a biologist in that lane.
+
+03:26.280 --> 03:29.600
+But I think that Peter Makala has recently taken the position
+
+03:29.600 --> 03:33.160
+that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances
+
+03:33.160 --> 03:35.400
+with the intent of augmenting the immune system
+
+03:35.400 --> 03:40.480
+is unadvisable, and transfection in healthy humans
+
+03:40.480 --> 03:43.200
+is criminally negligent, and he may have found
+
+03:43.200 --> 03:46.040
+another aspect of the evidence,
+
+03:46.040 --> 03:49.680
+which I think is his conclusive at this stage,
+
+03:49.680 --> 03:52.520
+that they had to, had to have known
+
+03:52.520 --> 03:55.640
+that the damage that would be done by this
+
+03:56.640 --> 03:58.200
+was simply unjustifiable.
+
+03:58.200 --> 04:01.800
+So there must have been some other national security priority,
+
+04:01.800 --> 04:05.080
+some other objective that they wanted to accomplish
+
+04:05.080 --> 04:09.200
+with this maneuver, other than just responding to a pandemic,
+
+04:09.200 --> 04:11.400
+which we all understand now,
+
+04:11.400 --> 04:14.480
+the claim for a pandemic is dubious at best.
+
+04:15.400 --> 04:17.840
+And the reason why they're doing this
+
+04:17.840 --> 04:22.040
+is because they want to invert our sovereignty to permissions.
+
+04:22.040 --> 04:24.280
+Stop all transfections in healthy humans
+
+04:24.280 --> 04:26.240
+because they are trying to eliminate the control group.
+
+04:26.240 --> 04:28.080
+I hope you won't be disappointed
+
+04:28.080 --> 04:33.080
+if I just leave you to redigest the JB interview with J.C.
+
+04:34.080 --> 04:38.080
+And we'll come back to Peter McSee MD
+
+04:38.080 --> 04:42.080
+as soon as we can with Dr. J.C.
+
+04:42.080 --> 04:45.080
+And so thank you very much for joining me.
+
+04:45.080 --> 04:48.080
+And I think I will sign off now
+
+04:48.080 --> 04:51.080
+and try to help keep peace in the house this evening.
+
+04:51.080 --> 04:52.080
+So thank you very much.
+
+04:52.080 --> 04:54.080
+I'll see you guys again soon.
+
+05:03.080 --> 05:08.080
+Good to see you again, Jeff.
+
+05:08.080 --> 05:09.080
+Thanks for following
+
+05:09.080 --> 05:14.080
+and the other Jeff to their UGG-001.
+
+05:14.080 --> 05:18.080
+Pamela, again, thanks for the package.
+
+05:18.080 --> 05:21.080
+And garden variety human, thanks for showing up.
+
+05:21.080 --> 05:22.080
+Thanks for the kudos.
+
+05:22.080 --> 05:27.080
+I hope that I hope you enjoyed that interview with JB
+
+05:27.080 --> 05:28.080
+as much as I did.
+
+05:28.080 --> 05:32.080
+I felt some friction or some resistance or some disconnect,
+
+05:32.080 --> 05:34.080
+but I didn't...
+
+05:34.080 --> 05:35.080
+Well, I don't know.
+
+05:35.080 --> 05:38.080
+I just know that I've met him a few times in person.
+
+05:38.080 --> 05:39.080
+I really like the guy a lot,
+
+05:39.080 --> 05:42.080
+and I think he's also really trying to solve the process.
+
+05:42.080 --> 05:45.080
+So I hope with further discussion we can get him
+
+05:45.080 --> 05:51.080
+either to push back harder against what we're hypothesizing.
+
+05:53.080 --> 05:55.080
+To either push back more effectively
+
+05:55.080 --> 05:57.080
+on what we're hypothesizing
+
+05:57.080 --> 06:00.080
+or digest a little bit more about what we're hypothesizing
+
+06:00.080 --> 06:02.080
+and help us evaluate it better.
+
+06:02.080 --> 06:05.080
+So either way, I think we made a lot of progress with Jay.
+
+06:05.080 --> 06:08.080
+Can I know that Peter has come a long way since the last time
+
+06:08.080 --> 06:09.080
+we talked to him?
+
+06:09.080 --> 06:12.080
+So I'm really excited about getting his insight into this paper
+
+06:12.080 --> 06:14.080
+and also just talking to him about
+
+06:14.080 --> 06:17.080
+how his views about immunology
+
+06:17.080 --> 06:21.080
+and the vaccinology have changed over the past three years.
+
+06:21.080 --> 06:24.080
+I think it's a really unique opportunity
+
+06:24.080 --> 06:28.080
+to talk to another person who has essentially had a few changes
+
+06:28.080 --> 06:30.080
+apart over the last three years,
+
+06:30.080 --> 06:32.080
+not unlike yours truly.
+
+06:32.080 --> 06:37.080
+So it's been a very humble regret
+
+06:37.080 --> 06:39.080
+that I say that I can't talk to him today
+
+06:39.080 --> 06:41.080
+but I will talk to him soon.
+
+06:42.080 --> 06:43.080
+Thanks guys.
+
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+WEBVTT
+
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+You
+
+00:30.000 --> 00:32.000
+You
+
+01:00.000 --> 01:14.000
+Liam Sturgis in the audience I suspect you'll be turning over to another to another stream at nine o'clock
+
+01:14.000 --> 01:22.000
+It's a pretty hot one going over there. I might even have to switch over to it. I'm not quite sure yet. I haven't decided what I'm gonna do
+
+01:30.000 --> 01:50.000
+Liam Sturgis the man the myth the legend. That's really it's good to see you man. Good to see you there
+
+01:51.000 --> 02:00.000
+I don't have any water. I don't have any water. I have no drink. I have nothing. What am I doing?
+
+02:00.000 --> 02:05.000
+How did I pull the trigger with no drink down here?
+
+02:05.000 --> 02:11.000
+Man, oh man, that's terrible. My voice has gotten even better Liam. I don't know what to tell you but
+
+02:12.000 --> 02:16.000
+The vocal cords are still recovering. Pretty cool.
+
+02:26.000 --> 02:35.000
+He's scheduled for 60 minutes next. He's going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television
+
+02:35.000 --> 02:40.000
+People everywhere are starting to listen to him. It's embarrassing.
+
+03:05.000 --> 03:08.000
+So damn hot.
+
+03:36.000 --> 03:54.000
+So this stream is brought to you by a patch clamp physiologist. What that basically means is that you make recordings from cell cultures or
+
+03:54.000 --> 04:05.000
+tissue preparations like brain slices and in my case you can make recordings between neurons that are synaptically connected with electrical connections that you can then stimulate and measure.
+
+04:05.000 --> 04:18.000
+You can look me up on PubMed by putting my last name C-O-U-E-Y hypon J-J into the top search bar and the articles that show up will all have my name in them.
+
+04:19.000 --> 04:43.000
+The reason why we call this the giga ohm biological high resistance low noise information brief is because the electrical recordings that I used to make as a biologist were made with borosilicate glass touching the phospholipid bilayer of the neuron and that would make a giga ohm seal which was indeed high resistance and very low noise.
+
+04:43.000 --> 04:47.000
+And that's where giga ohm biological comes from.
+
+04:47.000 --> 04:54.000
+So let's get this thing started. I think this should be a pretty good.
+
+04:54.000 --> 05:04.000
+We should be in pretty good sync. You can let me know if that's true or not and then we'll get going.
+
+05:04.000 --> 05:09.000
+I'm watching the chat all the time. I just don't react to it very much.
+
+05:09.000 --> 05:13.000
+How's that sound look?
+
+05:13.000 --> 05:19.000
+Are we okay? Can I stop? Yes, good sync, good sound. That's what I like to hear.
+
+05:19.000 --> 05:48.000
+It is indeed a faith in a novel virus we are trying to dispel
+
+05:48.000 --> 05:55.000
+because that faith doesn't need a lie.
+
+05:55.000 --> 06:01.000
+Just make you understand intramuscular injection of any combination of substance.
+
+06:01.000 --> 06:03.000
+The intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
+
+06:03.000 --> 06:15.000
+Transfection in healthy humans is crunally negligent and viruses are not pattern integrity.
+
+06:15.000 --> 06:24.000
+So that's where we are asking these questions, trying to answer these questions because there is a spectacular commitment to lies going on.
+
+06:24.000 --> 06:32.000
+This is giga ohm biological.
+
+06:32.000 --> 06:38.000
+Yes, happy birthday Silent Rob. I forgot I titled it Happy Birthday Silent Rob.
+
+06:38.000 --> 06:42.000
+Wow, good thanks for reminding me of that. Wow, that's a little.
+
+06:42.000 --> 06:49.000
+Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, this is giga ohm biological a high resistance low noise information brief brought to you by a biologist.
+
+06:49.000 --> 06:57.000
+It's the 21st of November, 2023 and my little brother Rob is at least it's his birthday today.
+
+06:57.000 --> 07:00.000
+I don't know how old he is. I'd have to think about it for a little while.
+
+07:00.000 --> 07:11.000
+He hasn't spoken to me since he fired me back in February of 2021 for a series of problems that included me not wanting to wear a mask on set anymore.
+
+07:11.000 --> 07:19.000
+Anyway, that also resulted in basically my parents not talking to me anymore for the last few years.
+
+07:19.000 --> 07:24.000
+So happy birthday Rob. Thanks a lot for being silent Rob, the producer of this show.
+
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+He provided one of the cameras and a bunch of the other things that were basically extra stuff that he had from his photography studio.
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+So, you know, everything works out in the end. So thanks for that.
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+I just wanted to start with a few short clips to kind of remind you of where we are, where we've been, where we're going and make sure that you aren't confused about these things.
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+Let me just switch over here really quick and see if this works.
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+So remember, first of all, on March 21, 2021, one year after the start of this fiasco, they had a little memorial.
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+Please welcome Mayor Bill de Blasio.
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+And this memorial in New York City involves projections onto the Brooklyn Bridge and it involved this rather interesting speech.
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+About 30,000 people who died, maybe 25,000 of them died or 21,000 of them died in four weeks.
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+Ask everyone together.
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+Jessica Hockett's whole city together.
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+Let's have a moment of silence for all those we loved and all those we lost.
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+It's lucky it's cold because he can, you know, confuse people with what sounds like emotion.
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+These were the games that they played with us from the very beginning and now that you can see it from this distance with this much retrospective, you know, inside.
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+Every morning, it's shocking.
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+The first thing I see is a list and there are numbers on it.
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+But what it really means is how many people we lost, how many New Yorkers are gone, how many neighbors, how many members of our family.
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+Today, that number is more than 30,000.
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+It's a number we can barely imagine.
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+We can barely find them.
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+New Yorkers lost then in World War II.
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+We can barely keep track of where they are anymore.
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+Hurricane Sandy and 9, 11 put together.
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+No death certificates, no, nothing.
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+We don't know where we can't find anything in some way.
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+And for so many families, a pain, a pain that is raw.
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+I don't even know if we have a list of names.
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+I don't think we do.
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+And yet New Yorkers are always there for each other.
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+And tonight, so many people have gathered to show their love.
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+To show their support of the family members left behind.
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+I want to thank everybody who created this memorial as a labor of love, everyone who spoke, everyone who played a piece of music to comfort us, everyone who created something to give something back to their fellow New Yorkers.
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+Yeah, he walked up to the point of the past.
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+I have a vivid memory.
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+Last May.
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+I went to visit Queensbridge Houses, Nica.
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+And as I walked through the development, a resident came up to talk to me and then another member of the community came around and then another and another and I found myself a part of a circle.
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+And everyone in the circle was mourning.
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+Everyone in the circle had lost someone.
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+They told me about an aunt or an uncle, a grandma.
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+And then they told me the hardest part was they could not mourn together.
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+And they felt the pain, the loss.
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+And that moment was one of those times where it became clear just how deep this pain was for all of us.
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+How much the virus has stolen from us.
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+The virus, the virus has stolen from us.
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+But then when people start telling the stories of those they loved, a little joy starts to come back into their voice.
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+Smile comes across their face.
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+Reminds me of a beautiful passage from Gabriel Garcia Marquez.
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+And he said this about grief.
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+No matter what, no one can take away the dances we've already had.
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+I think about a dear friend, my college roommate, Tom.
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+He fell in love with a renowned New Yorker, a legend, the playwright, Terrence McNally.
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+And when he lost Terrence, I called him and he said he couldn't believe he was gone.
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+But he knew that Terrence.
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+Those are COVID victims on the bridge.
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+Those are COVID victims on the bridge.
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+They're COVID victims.
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+They're lifted and enlightened.
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+COVID victims.
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+New Yorkers and people, the world brown.
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+And he knew that joy, that hope would continue.
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+Doesn't it make the pandemic more real for you though?
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+I guarantee you it makes it more real for all the people that donated their picture for this.
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+I guarantee you it makes it more real for them.
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+For everybody that didn't know better back then that there was do not resuscitate orders or that there were protocols that they needed to be afraid of.
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+That they shouldn't call the ambulance.
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+Like they didn't know.
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+And so a lot of people in New York probably actually believe their relatives died of COVID still to this day.
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+That's how much work we have to do.
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+Everybody that put their picture up on that friggin bridge definitely does.
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+We've got to take this seriously.
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+There has been some massive, massive, massive psychological experiment.
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+Real enchantments cast on us.
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+That's why I wanted you to see this.
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+I'm not sure how many of us really remember how remarkable it was back in 2020 and early 2021.
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+This is right when they're trying to roll out the shots.
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+So they need everybody on board with the worst case scenario.
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+Don't forget that lockdowns had some effect.
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+And otherwise it could be much worse than it is had we not locked down.
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+Had Brett Weinstein not shown us how to use a bandana to protect ourselves when we left the house.
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+Had Brett Weinstein not shown us this great example of how we stay home and isolate from our family and friends for nine or ten months.
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+We might have had a much worse pandemic.
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+And this is now the time when we don't want to let up our guard.
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+We want to make sure that we're taking the shot when we're offered.
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+That's how they were talking about it here with the free french fries and stuff.
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+Excuse me.
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+Single one of them.
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+Everyone we've lost, what they did goes on.
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+What they contributed, what they created.
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+The love they gave goes on.
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+The teachers we lost, the educators.
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+What they gave to young people.
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+It's carried on every day.
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+Excuse me.
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+The faith leaders are clergy.
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+Excuse me.
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+And we lost them.
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+Their congregations carried them on in their hearts and in their faith.
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+The healthcare heroes.
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+Those who were there for us no matter what.
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+And we lost some of those good souls.
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+Hey Elizabeth Rogers in the audience.
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+Nice to see you.
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+We saved lives.
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+And the people walking around today.
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+Because a doctor or nurse was there for them.
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+Or an EMT or a paramedic.
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+The people walking around today, they carry the hearts of those we've lost with them.
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+I still haven't figured out how all those grocery store workers didn't die.
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+But you know, it was a really deadly virus spread like hell.
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+The moms, the dads, the grandparents.
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+All that was great about them.
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+All that was warm.
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+Their souls continue on in their sons and daughters and in their grandchildren.
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+There's something especially evil about invoking the memory of people's dead relatives.
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+In a disingenuous way.
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+There's something extremely.
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+Evil about misleading young people by provoking and evoking the memory.
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+Of their lost relatives.
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+This is some extraordinary stuff.
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+If you look back now and you see this for what it was, not as it happened.
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+But we're talking about two and a half years later.
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+This is March 2021.
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+One year after the declaration of 15 days to slow the spread.
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+When Paul Cantrell was talking for 16 days to crush the curve, to smash the curve.
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+And so it is to all of us to do something very simple.
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+Very beautiful.
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+Very powerful.
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+It is time to make them proud.
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+So I don't know.
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+They are so lost.
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+I'm glad I waited for the second shoulder to shoulder.
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+One for another.
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+We've got to go some time and watch an old speech of Ronald Reagan so that you can see what it was like when adults used to talk at a decent place.
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+And you didn't have to speed up the video on YouTube in order to make it digestible.
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+These speeches that these politicians do are really aimed at such a low intellect level.
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+It's scary.
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+I couldn't have a conversation with somebody who talked like this.
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+And even if they sped it up double, I couldn't talk to a person who talked like this.
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+So where are we?
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+We're dealing with somebody like Mandy Cohen now.
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+And I want to show you a couple examples in case you forgot how bad this is.
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+This is right now 2023 that was just released by the CDC, which adds to the evidence that vaccinations during pregnancy helps protect patients and newborns.
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+Today I'm going to answer a few questions about getting vaccinated when you're pregnant.
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+Now let's just be really clear about what she's not going to answer questions about.
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+If there's a fetus developing inside a young mother.
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+Developing fetus means development.
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+Development means cell division.
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+Cell division means whoa.
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+There's a great big giant danger there.
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+That's the reason why moms weren't allowed to eat.
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+Maybe think about not eating tuna fish.
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+Don't ever eat sushi.
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+Oh my gosh.
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+Unpassed your eyes.
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+Cheese.
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+And so now we're talking about injecting some combination of substances to augment the immune system of the mother.
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+And also protect the baby right after birth.
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+As if they understand how these pattern integrity's work to the extent to which they can augment them in this way.
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+It is absolutely ridiculous for them to talk like this.
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+It is absolutely ridiculous for somebody to believe that this is the state of the art.
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+And I honestly don't think that if we had a whiteboard on either side of a room.
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+And one hour that this woman and I would end up with.
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+She would have almost nothing on her whiteboard.
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+And I would have it covered with facts that she can't dispute.
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+And I think there are quite a few people on our side who could do that to Mandy Cohen.
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+Because I don't think Mandy Cohen really brings much expertise to her position.
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+And if it is, it's an expertise in the shape of a very thin needle.
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+You know, one PhD project and one little sliver of expertise that goes right to the edge of knowledge about one specific topic like.
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+A subtype of G protein couple receptor and that's it.
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+Now I I'm not saying I'm some kind of polymath, but I have spent my whole life trying to decide what part of biology was the most interesting and walking in all different directions for a long ways.
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+And I dedicated my whole adult life to being a academic biologist.
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+So I actually understand how it is to swim with these people and who swims with them.
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+And I see them in a different light now than I have had in the past and did in the past.
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+And I also think that 10 years ago when I was really in the heart of my career.
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+What I would call my academic career.
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+There was still a preponderance of good intentions and good programs and largely just the real medical and nutrition sciences were starting to be corrupted.
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+Maybe a little psychiatry.
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+But about the time that I started to try and get positions is when everything kind of went exponentially bad.
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+The hiring process went exponentially bad.
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+The the equity went exponentially bad.
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+The the impetus to get patents went exponentially bad.
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+The impetus to to have some kind of, you know, the the grants became much more pigeonholed in the, you know, all these different themed grants, which essentially means you can't come up with your own ideas, but you got to come up with.
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+How does your idea fit into their to their grant proposal?
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+And so she is now the head of the CDC, an extremely important organization in the bureaucracy of America.
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+And it frightens me to think that someone of her shallow biological knowledge could be allowed to on a professional level and basis advocate for the augmentation of pregnant women's immunity.
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+The pregnant women's immune systems with really what appears to be no regard for the developing fetus and the absolute sacredness of this time.
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+When a woman is pregnant, when she's not supposed to wear makeup, no lotion, don't use all those products anymore.
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+When you're having a not when you're not when you have a baby developing and you what are you nuts?
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+First question.
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+When during pregnancy, should a person get a COVID-19 flu and RSV vaccine?
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+So the COVID and flu vaccines are recommended for everyone over six months and that includes moms who are pregnant.
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+You can get a COVID or flu vaccine at any point during pregnancy.
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+For the RSV vaccine, you can get that vaccine if you are between 32 to 36 weeks pregnant.
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+When you get vaccinated during pregnancy, you pass on your antibodies to your baby and they are born with some protection through your vaccination.
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+This is a great news for keeping yourself as healthy as possible during pregnancy and to protect the health of your baby.
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+Next question.
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+Is getting vaccinated for COVID flu and RSV during pregnancy safe for me and my baby?
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+Another great question and one a lot of people are asking.
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+The answer is yes.
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+Getting the COVID flu and RSV vaccine during pregnancy is safe for you.
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+Does anybody know what that symbol is around your neck?
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+Have not been linked to any increased risk of negative effects during pregnancy or for the baby.
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+And the good news is when you get vaccinated during pregnancy, you pass on your antibodies to your baby and they're born with some protection through your vaccination.
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+Born with antibodies from you and those antibodies apparently are protecting.
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+Case you.
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+Hi everyone.
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+It's Mandy Cohen, CDC Director and I am here at Morris Brown College.
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+I'm here with the President Dr. James and I'm here with a great partner of ours from the conference of national black churches.
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+This is Jackie Burton and she's amazing and they have been working with the CDC on vaccinations throughout the pandemic.
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+They've done more than a million COVID vaccines and I can't tell you how important a partnership with our historically black colleges and partnerships with our black churches around the country has been.
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+I just wanted you guys to get a chance to meet them.
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+So why don't I turn it over to Dr. James first and then I'd love to hear from Jackie as well.
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+Sure.
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+My name is Kevin James.
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+I'm honored to serve as the President of Morris Brown College.
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+HBCU founded in 1881, 142 years ago.
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+We are related to partner with you all today to provide this service to our community.
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+Continue to watch Morris Brown College as we continue to expand what we're doing here that will be called the hard reset.
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+Welcome.
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+Thank you.
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+All right.
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+And Dr. Burton, tell us about your just a legend.
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+So first, thank you.
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+But tell me about the work that you've been doing vaccinating the community.
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+Great.
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+The CDC contact.
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+It's a really weird ego attack there with, you know, you're just a legend and you're amazing.
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+Anytime anyone ever starts with that, I automatically assume that there's something going on.
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+And obviously these two are being manipulated or their organizations are being manipulated by the CDC to take money to promote the health policy of the CDC.
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+And it could be that these two are just not sophisticated enough to understand that this biology is a scam.
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+That more and more vaccines are not a sign of progress.
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+But we've got to start helping these people.
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+We've got to start helping and reaching out to people who are already.
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+Yeah.
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+Back to us.
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+At the CNBC, the Conference of National Black Churches, when the pandemic first started and said, can you help us get the word into the African American community?
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+Well, of course we can.
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+Black churches are the center of our communities and it is work.
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+They have, I won't give you the number, but multi millions of dollars since 2020.
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+And we are delighted.
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+We're in our third year of funding and looking toward the fourth year, but it is a made a difference.
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+Our churches through our sixth largest historically black denominations have worked very hard.
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+And that's how we ended up with this over a million vaccines through our churches, through community centers, nursing homes, even some hospitals.
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+But it has made a difference.
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+We could not have done this unless CDC believed in us.
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+Well, we love that partnership and we've been talking a lot about building trust.
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+And so making sure that we have access points for folks can get the vaccine close to their community as well as from people that they trust and hear from folks that they trust.
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+So we are grateful again to be here at historically black because essentially they're using their these pastors, giving them money, buying them off and buying these churches off and using the trust that these people have in their church.
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+In order to give them a vaccine and it's a vaccine that they don't need that they could better off be giving them multivitamins.
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+Or, or organic vegetables or, you know, I mean, it's just extraordinary what they're what we're doing here.
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+It might actually be better for instead of providing vaccines for everybody in this church that they provided an organic meal.
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+Or, I mean, I just, this is where we are though.
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+I mean, this is still going.
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+This is like a day ago.
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+They help officials are urging people to take some extra precautions.
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+That's because the CDC estimates there have already been up to 1.6 million flu cases.
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+RSV infections are also on the rides, especially impacting kids under the age of four and COVID-19.
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+We're concerned for a lot of families, but only about 15% of adults have received that updated shot.
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+So let's break it down and see what it all means.
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+How we can protect ourselves and our loved ones is the CDC's new director, Dr. Mandy Cohen, Dr. Cohen.
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+I'm so happy that you're here with us today.
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+As we said, tons of people are on the road.
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+People are going to be gathering.
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+Not many people have gotten the flu shot or the COVID shot.
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+So what's going to happen here is the two ladies that are asking questions will agree with the lady there questioning.
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+And that creates an illusion of consensus.
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+So they're all going to agree on what the good plan is for the Thanksgiving weekend.
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+I'm concerned to argue about these holiday gatherings.
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+Well, look, we love to gather during the holidays.
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+And first, it's wonderful to be here with both of you.
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+So fun.
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+But as we get into the holidays, we need to protect each other.
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+And yes, too few people have gotten the vaccine so far.
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+And I know folks are over COVID and they want to leave it in the rearview mirror, but it's here with us.
+
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+So the three reasons to get vaccinated.
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+One, the virus has changed.
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+So you want the most updated protection you can get.
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+Second, if you had COVID before or you've been vaccinated, that protection has decreased over time.
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+So you want the boosted up protection.
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+And third, people are still getting long COVID, right?
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+The long symptoms from that virus, even if you get a mild case.
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+So all three reasons, we don't want to be sick, but we certainly don't want to be sick for a long time.
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+So getting vaccinated is still really the most important way you can protect yourself and your family.
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+It was hard to get the COVID vaccine in the early going.
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+This more updated one.
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+Do you feel like all those wrinkles have been kind of ironed out and it's pretty accessible now?
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+Yeah, so moving out of the emergency, the federal government wasn't purchasing and distributing.
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+The private sector was doing it.
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+They did have some hiccups right at the beginning, but that's all really been ironed out.
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+Plenty of supply of vaccine for COVID and flu.
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+Get your appointment now.
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+It's not.
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+I remember very clearly this idea that there was going to be a shortage.
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+And in fact, I think I have a video somewhere in my archive of like a local ABC news channel saying that.
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+They had vaccinated 10 people at the hospital and then the next day they were going to vaccinate like 300 more and they were doing it really slow.
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+But whenever you were offered your vaccine, you need to take it because.
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+You were a part of this health care apparatus and then they were slowly going to roll out the protection of the vaccine first to these people.
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+Who had been risking their lives throughout the beginning of the pandemic.
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+And so she, she seems to be re telling that story about how there was a shortage and now there's a new shortage of the.
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+Of the advanced by Vayland, you know, booster or whatever.
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+And so it's that perceived shortage.
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+It's a, it's a little bit of a scyop, right?
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+You drive past the place.
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+They have shots.
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+Well, I better get one while I can.
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+And they have used that throughout these three years to motivate people that are vulnerable to that kind of suggestion.
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+Ever too late to get vaccinated.
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+Never too late.
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+It's already in the middle season.
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+No, never too late.
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+Right now.
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+So plenty of time to get back to the number of people who have the flu.
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+It seems pretty high.
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+Do you think this is all because we had been isolated for so much because now I feel like people have had these long coughs for months that's been going on and on.
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+There are a lot of bugs that are circulating viruses and bacteria, but we have ways to protect ourselves.
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+Vaccine is one.
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+But also if you get sick over this holiday season, make sure you're getting tested because testing allows you to know what you have so you can get treatment.
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+We have treatment for flu and for COVID and that treatment could save your life.
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+You can get for free tests, COVID tests at COVID test.gov right now.
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+We actually just yesterday said you can get for free new ones.
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+So get your test.
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+Take them with you if you travel so you know if you're getting sick.
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+Dr. Cohen, you're the new sheriff in town, the new head of the CDC.
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+And I don't have to tell you there have been some questions about trust in the agency in the wake of the pandemic.
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+Public surveys will show you that the CDC is held in not low regard, but the trust is not there as it used to be.
+
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+What are you doing to turn it around?
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+Yeah, so I'm about six months into the job.
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+We're focused on transparency where I think that's important to build trust, communicating faster, more simply, making sure we're focused on giving folks simple ways to protect themselves.
+
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+Certainly building relationships.
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+And I personally have been traveling all around the country so that folks can hear from me directly.
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+So not just the CDC director or the mom.
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+I have two daughters who are nine and 11 and I want them to know what I did for my own daughters.
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+And I got both of them, the updated COVID vaccine and the flu shot because I wanted them to be protected.
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+Same with myself.
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+I got myself vaccinated.
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+My parents.
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+I wouldn't recommend something for the American people.
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+I wouldn't do for my own family.
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+And I want them to hear from from me directly. So I've been all over the country sharing that message.
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+I want to make sure you understand that it is not impossible at all impossible for her to believe every word she says.
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+It's not at all impossible.
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+This.
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+Her not understanding.
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+Her salary, her success in this.
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+Industry has probably completely been dependent on it.
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+She would not have moved up the ladder.
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+Had she shown any internal or external doubts, even if she just expressed them over drinks.
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+They would have immediately said, Oh, no, we need a completely committed 100% vaccine cheerleader here.
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+We need somebody who believes in them like.
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+Like the Weinstein's do the best invention of all mankind, except for maybe.
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+You know, the wheel and the airplane.
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+So you remember that we talked about censorship.
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+I wanted to play this whole video.
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+This was the World Health Summit.
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+So it was a little while ago, but it's important to understand.
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+That we're being warned from both sides of the narrative that the world needs locking down the world needs a global control mechanism.
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+The world needs a way of coordinating global governance.
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+And so you can listen first to these two guys make the argument that we have no choice.
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+If we want to be prepared for a pandemic, we have to give countries money to establish the control mechanism.
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+Otherwise, they will govern themselves.
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+And then we also need to establish some kind of, you know, technocratic message control system so that.
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+Oh, that's awesome.
+
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+Thank you.
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+That some kind of control system that keeps everybody, you know, all the messages right on point.
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+So that's pretty extraordinary as well.
+
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+So first, let's listen to this guys.
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+If we do not support these 40 companies and institutions that they govern themselves, then we will not be better prepared,
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+but we may be worse prepared because we now have also the info in them, a pandemic against us.
+
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+Well, let's say everything that we do is basically questions by a social media war,
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+which will make it very more difficult to organize a response towards the future pandemic.
+
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+This is where we currently are.
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+Does it ever make you wonder when you hear him talking?
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+When you hear this guy talking, does it ever make you wonder whether he sounds as annoying in German when he speaks as he does when he speaks in English?
+
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+I really find myself wondering that.
+
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+Listen carefully to how he says it again because it's important.
+
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+If we do not support these 40 countries with money and institutions that they govern themselves,
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+then we will not be better prepared, but may be worse prepared because we now have also the info in them, a pandemic against us.
+
+37:07.000 --> 37:13.000
+Well, let's say everything that we do is basically questions by a social media war,
+
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+which will make it very more difficult to organize a response towards the future pandemic.
+
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+This is where we currently are.
+
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+The other issue as we are with the virus is communication and disinformation.
+
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+And this is such a complex issue.
+
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+There are many media people here who exactly know what I'm speaking about.
+
+37:34.000 --> 37:37.000
+And we know who this guy is, right? This is Jorston.
+
+37:37.000 --> 37:42.000
+This is the guy who developed a PCR test for the original SARS.
+
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+And then was called upon to develop a PCR test for SARS-CoV-2,
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+which was reviewed and approved and published in 24 hours and then circulated as the who recommended primer set.
+
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+And so that paper was, of course, opposed by another publication that a number of really interesting people were on.
+
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+The interesting combination of people.
+
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+And so this is where the entire pandemic started with this guy, with that guy in Germany.
+
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+And so it's extraordinary to hear them talking post pandemic, if you will.
+
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+Maybe it's not post pandemic yet, but it's interesting to hear them talking this year about the things they need to fix.
+
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+It's not very different from listening to Mark van Rance, the guy from Belgium, talking at the Chatham House in 2011.
+
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+And lamenting about how during the swine flu, he didn't have things like Facebook and Twitter and whatever to help control the messaging.
+
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+He had to work with newspapers and the websites of newspapers.
+
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+But now with Facebook and Instagram and stuff like that, he thinks it would be in 2011 already.
+
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+He thought it would be much easier for the messaging to be powerful in that sense and controlling.
+
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+And so here, this guy's talking about how even for this pandemic, it wasn't good enough.
+
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+So that's pretty extraordinary because we know from the dissident side, according to Robert Malone,
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+I mean, he was horribly censored. According to Brett Weinstein, he lost a huge amount of his income was just slaughtered away by the censorship of the pandemic.
+
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+I mean, he was just, you know, his family income was just crippled.
+
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+This is really the intervention in the beginning of a pandemic.
+
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+So there are two interventions that are really efficient before we have a drug or vaccine.
+
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+This is diagnostic testing and then it's political decision-making.
+
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+And once this political decision-making...
+
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+Yeah, they can't even find his PhD anymore.
+
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+They can't find the actual publication in the library. It should be, and it's pretty funny.
+
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+It's influenced and contorted by disinformation and propaganda we are lost.
+
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+And there are roles that are not being fulfilled by the media themselves.
+
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+They really have to look in the mirror.
+
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+And there is another role that some sometimes ignored a little bit, which is the role of science itself.
+
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+So we shouldn't have anybody who has some academic degree talking about the heart of the issue in the middle of a pandemic.
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+We have to address the institutions of science to make some selection to set up panels of experts who are really experts
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+and who wouldn't push into the media, but who are somehow qualified to summarize the state of knowledge.
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+And this can only happen via the institutions of science.
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+These institutions have to offer this function to society.
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+And these institutions of science, they are actually consisting of scientists, of top scientists.
+
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+And it's really about being a little bit less opportunistic as a scientist, being a little bit more of service to society.
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+A little bit more of service to society, society being the big S society, like big S science.
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+If we do not.
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+Why is that going backwards?
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+I was weird.
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+I don't know why I did that.
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+What's happening here?
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+Oh, yeah.
+
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+So I want you to compare that message to and what I'm trying to the point I'm trying to make here is that there's a very fine line between
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+warning and announcement.
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+And I am starting to sense on our side that I could have seen it earlier that the difference between the, let's say the TV narrative
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+and the dissident narrative was that one was.
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+Yeah.
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+I really feel like one was sort of working hard to.
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+Announce.
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+And one was working hard to warn.
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+And the way that they switch those roles.
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+It's like a game.
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+It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a performance.
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+And so they switch from warning us about misinformation.
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+To announcing that they're going to stop it or announcing that they're going to change it with a who treaty or announcing that they're going to change it because, you know, the, the WF is going to change it.
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+The who's going to change it or CEP is going to change it or the government's going to change or the FDA is going to CDC is going to declare this.
+
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+And so that's very clever words that result in what appears to be a warning.
+
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+But it's actually just an announcement appears to be complaining about, about misinformation, but it's actually just an announcement that we're going to stop it.
+
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+It is a complaining about fifth generation warfare when it's really just an announcement that this is what's being done to you.
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+You can't do anything about it.
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+And so when I, if I can, if I finally imparted that idea on you, listen to this next video, please.
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+From a belief system that says that nation state is an obsolete idea and we have to have a one world government that is basically a fusion of the interests of corporations and politics, global politics.
+
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+And we've got to start by finding out who they are, voting them out of office, making sure they are not part of our governments.
+
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+Two notable characters here in the United States are governors, Inslee and Newsome.
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+Okay.
+
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+We've got to out these people.
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+We've got to force them to account for whether or not they're Americans or are they globalists.
+
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+And if they're globalists, they got to get out.
+
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+We've got to get rid of them.
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+We've got to take back ownership of our country.
+
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+If you believe in the Constitution, if you believe in the principles of free speech and personal autonomy, medical autonomy and autonomy at every level, other level, it's time to fight.
+
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+You know, or your children are going to live in basically a technofascism for the rest of their natural lives as serfs.
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+No, I don't necessarily disagree with that last warning part of the description.
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+But what I want you to think very carefully about is, is there a fine line being walked here between the announcement and a warning?
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+I've watched hours of this guy's presentations about fifth generation warfare.
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+And I've heard him say at least three times that fifth generation warfare, you're never going to figure out who's doing it.
+
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+And of all the people he could have named, he named two governors.
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+Of all the people he could have named, those are the people he chose.
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+He could have said lots of other things that would have been closer to the mark of getting to the globalists versus the patriotic Americans.
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+But he didn't.
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+And I don't know what everybody's motivation is, but I do know that there is an illusion of consensus about a dangerous novel virus that killed millions of people and millions more were saved from.
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+I do know that there is an illusion of consensus that gain of function is real.
+
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+This virus may have come from it and a virus will come again.
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+That illusion of consensus is what we need to save our children from, because that is the basis for their upcoming slavery.
+
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+I apologize for that lower, lower thing being wrong.
+
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+So what are the things I want to point out about Robert Malone?
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+If you will recall from our previous discussions, Robert Malone was aligned with a company called Enovio.
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+Enovio had a number of technologies including electroporation and DNA electroporation at the skin for vaccination.
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+They were actually one of the two largest original players in the Warp Speed thing.
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+It was Moderna and Enovio and those two got funding.
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+And then they ended up choosing the mRNA.
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+But if you look behind this guy's shoulder at the World Vaccine Congress in Washington in 2018, you can see on that board of ads the Enovio sign right there.
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+Can you see my arrow? That's Enovio.
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+So Robert Malone wasn't a horse farmer in 2018. He was involved in a vaccine company that was positioning itself to be a world-class vaccine provider.
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+And so let's make no mistake about this.
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+It could be a guy who, there's Enovio again right there.
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+It could be a guy who's putting his entire pharma career on the line or it could be a guy who's working to make sure that the illusion of consensus isn't broken about this novel virus that killed millions that millions more were saved from.
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+The gain of function is real and a virus will come again.
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+I think this is probably the case.
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+And it could be that he believes in the novel virus that killed millions of people, but I'm skeptical, especially because he cut his teeth in the labs of the people who I think are responsible for this mythology.
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+Gallo and Gardner and Baltimore and all of these people.
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+They lied to us about the pandemic potential and bad caves and accessibility of it in cell culture.
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+The accessibility of it with passage and animals like ferrets and they've definitely lied to us about how easy it is to stitch it together and have a new novel coronavirus start from a puddle and then cover the world with itself.
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+They've lied to us about this potential so that they can invert the sovereignty of our children into permissions.
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+It's freedom to fascism.
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+That's what this new world order is.
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+And a lot of people are starting to use this term, but I tried to take it away from them very early in the pandemic with my JC on the woods videos because JC in the woods videos were really about identifying the new world order for what it really was.
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+Which is what George H. W. Bush said in front of Congress or the UN or wherever it was he spoke.
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+It's the new world order that all of these people have been talking about for a couple decades now at least.
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+And that's why it's important to evoke it because it's not a new thing.
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+It's an old thing.
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+This is one continuous multi-generational plan to enslave our children and to make sure that the genetic data of the coming generations is accessible, collected, stored, and fed to their AI.
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+And I can't help but play this again.
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+I want you to imagine that we take a bunch of children into this subway station and we try to convince him that this guy is making up for the fact that the brakes don't work on this electric train and making up for the fact that the motor is weak and so he's also pushing the train to start it again.
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+And depending on the age of those children, it wouldn't take very much more than a four or five year old kids to start to think that that's not what's happening here.
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+And my analogy for the pandemic is instead of having one guy, maybe we should have 60 guys who are dressed in LED lined suits that make noise and they pretend like they're very strenuously working.
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+Some of them grab onto the train early or have big wheels that they put against the train that shake while they pretend to stop it in big wheels that they put against the train to make it seem like it's going to go again.
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+And now the kids would have a lot harder time believing that those people weren't physically stopping the train and physically starting it if they had these big machines that they were using or there was some other elaborate theater involved.
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+And as long as the performers were all very coordinated in the way that they did it and didn't get in the way of the train or actually pull on the train and get dragged by it or if they did they used it in a way to mine stopping the train, they could make it really convincing.
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+Think about that 60 or 70 minds, not this guy who's chalking his thing up, but minds, people that can really do fake movements and stuff like that, you know, really make it look good.
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+Now what would those kids believe?
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+Now that's a train. It's something you can understand. You can see it. You can hear it. You can feel the station shake has the train approaches.
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+You can feel the station stop shaking as the train stops and you can feel it start to shake again when the train starts to move again.
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+Pandemic wasn't like that. Pandemic was a bit more like a movie on your phone or a Netflix series.
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+And a series of short videos on Facebook.
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+But the number of people that were starting and stopping the train pretending to start and stop the train that was the pandemic were many more people.
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+Some people were doing it unwittingly. Many more people were doing it wittingly, especially with regard to the people who were elevated on social media.
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+All of them, all of them, all of them that were censored early in 2020 with much pomp and circumstance, including new apps like GAB and GEDR and whatever else.
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+This was all baloney. It was all part of the train pulling and stopping and pushing act.
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+That went right along with the novel virus, meaning everybody's vulnerable. We got to agree on that. We got to all move with the train on that one.
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+PCR and lateral flow testing are definitely high fidelity. That helps the train make it seem like we're stopping and starting it.
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+And all of these stories were seeded and controlled for the purpose of this national security narrative where a huge bureaucracy, many bureaucracies around the world did a train stopping and starting exercise to convince their populations that a national security level pandemic had occurred.
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+I just want you to digest this because I really think this is an apt analogy for what they did to us.
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+I want you to think about 40 or 50 of those guys dressed in suits with lots of props, not just chalk, not just a skinny guy, but a bunch of big dudes making noise.
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+That's what they did.
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+That's what they did with this.
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+That's why mystery virus doesn't equal excess deaths because you've got to subtract all the pulling and pushing of the train.
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+The fake stopping and starting of the train that included do not resuscitate orders and ventilation and lack of antibiotics and poor use of steroids and remdesivir, medazlam and opioid deaths and death certificate fraud.
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+And the list keeps going on and all of those have to be subtracted from excess deaths before you have any mystery virus.
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+And guess what? There's nothing left.
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+And so why are they doing this? Well, we're at a time point when they plan to reduce the amount of diversity on the earth.
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+And before they do that, they need the AI to record it.
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+I'm not saying it's going to work. Not saying it's a great idea. I'm not saying I believe in that transhuman crap.
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+But I am saying that in these secret meetings with lots of rich guys, they parade people up on stage.
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+You know how actually they do it? You know what's crazy?
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+And you should be thankful for this. But the guy who skateboard this is, I just pulled the green screen down.
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+The guy who skateboard this is, Rodney Mullen used to have to go to TED Talks and food conferences and open the conference and make everybody think it's super cool how to learn skills and get into a flow state.
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+And then the subsequent speakers would be talking about how AI is going to learn how to manipulate the genome and cure diseases.
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+And then they would have, you know, after conference meetings where they did talk about more of these ideas in detail, more of the real plan in detail.
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+So long story short, there are people everywhere, ladies and gentlemen, that know what's up.
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+People as diverse as Rodney Mullen and Jonathan Cooley as diverse as Jessica Hockett and Mark Koolack.
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+And we're going to start to make this network of people that is arduously working toward the truth.
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+And listening to the people that they discuss things with.
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+Not marching forward with certainty, marching forward with trepidation and with the flashlights facing up and forward, not back into the cave, but out.
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+Arm straight.
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+Ladies and gentlemen, please stop all transfections in humans.
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+Because they are trying to eliminate the control group by any means necessary.
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+And without trying to be too repetitive.
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+I am going to say that the one way that we can really unite the United States, I think, and be somewhat of a.
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+Let's say, regain some of our respect in the world would be to cop to our role in this and make sure that we bring our system back into check.
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+We reclaim our government exactly as Robert Mullen said we should.
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+I don't want to be a broken record about this, but I think this is going to be GigaOM biologicals message for quite some time.
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+Intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
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+Transfection and healthy humans is criminally negligent and viruses are not patterned integrity.
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+This has been GigaOM Biological High Resistance, Illinois's information stream brought to you by a biologist.
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+I'll see you again tomorrow night ladies and gentlemen.
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+Music
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+96 people here good to see you thanks for joining Elizabeth.
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+Thanks for joining again Pamela good to see you again Jeff.
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+Everybody that I'm not mentioning Jeff from Earth also there good to see you sir.
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+Albert was there was your show canceled Albert I didn't see you this morning I thought you were going to be on CHD and then I didn't catch it you got to update me on that what did they do.
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+Anyway thanks guys see you tomorrow.
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