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Alberta, the National + +00:11.160 --> 00:13.480 +Citizens' Inquiry. + +00:13.480 --> 00:16.560 +Our next guest is Jay Kuey. + +00:16.560 --> 00:17.720 +Jay, can you hear me? + +00:17.720 --> 00:19.840 +I can, yes, sir. + +00:19.840 --> 00:21.800 +And thank you for joining us today. + +00:21.800 --> 00:26.000 +I'd like to start by asking you to state your full name for the record, spelling your + +00:26.000 --> 00:28.800 +first and last name. + +00:28.800 --> 00:36.960 +My name is Jonathan Kuey, J-O-N-A-T-H-A-N, last name Kuey, C-O-U-E-Y. + +00:36.960 --> 00:40.880 +And Jay, do you promise to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, + +00:40.880 --> 00:42.360 +so help you God? + +00:42.360 --> 00:43.640 +I do. + +00:43.640 --> 00:50.880 +Now my understanding is you can be described as an academic neurobiologist, and you've + +00:50.880 --> 00:55.600 +been doing that for about 20 years before the pandemic. + +00:55.600 --> 00:56.600 +That's correct. + +00:56.600 --> 01:01.960 +I lost my position as an academic biologist as a result of taking a stand against the + +01:01.960 --> 01:04.800 +transfection and masking in 2020. + +01:04.800 --> 01:05.800 +Right. + +01:05.800 --> 01:10.520 +You went against the narrative and lost your teaching position at the School of Medicine + +01:10.520 --> 01:11.880 +at Pittsburgh University. + +01:11.880 --> 01:17.520 +Yeah, I was a research assistant professor, which means I was in the lab all the time. + +01:17.520 --> 01:20.720 +I taught only as an extra side thing. + +01:20.720 --> 01:21.720 +Right. + +01:21.720 --> 01:22.720 +Okay. + +01:22.720 --> 01:26.320 +I'm teaching immunology and biology. + +01:26.320 --> 01:33.160 +Yes, just online, and I consult for a couple of people as well to make a little extra on + +01:33.160 --> 01:34.160 +the side. + +01:34.160 --> 01:35.160 +Yep. + +01:35.160 --> 01:36.160 +Okay. + +01:36.160 --> 01:43.680 +We've entered your CV as Exhibit RE11, and you've been invited here today because you've + +01:43.680 --> 01:49.480 +got a hypothesis to speak of, and my understanding is you have a presentation, so I'm just going + +01:49.480 --> 01:55.640 +to invite you to launch into your presentation and share with us your hypotheses. + +01:55.640 --> 01:57.400 +Thank you very much. + +01:57.400 --> 02:02.160 +I'm really pleased to hear previous witnesses pointing out so clearly that the principle + +02:02.160 --> 02:06.120 +of informed consent has been ignored for the duration of the pandemic. + +02:06.120 --> 02:10.760 +I want to point out that the last witness was very good at pointing out that you need + +02:10.760 --> 02:12.800 +to be able to say no. + +02:12.800 --> 02:19.200 +You do not have the possibility of exercising informed consent if no is not an option. + +02:19.280 --> 02:25.520 +And the principle of informed consent from the perspective of me as a biologist, it requires + +02:25.520 --> 02:27.840 +that you understand. + +02:27.840 --> 02:35.000 +And I would argue that you can't really understand the coronavirus pandemic given the biology + +02:35.000 --> 02:40.720 +that we have been provided with over the last three years on television and social media. + +02:40.720 --> 02:47.240 +And because of the lack of the proper understanding of this biology across our medical communities + +02:47.280 --> 02:53.440 +in America and Canada and all over the world, doctors aren't even able to enable people + +02:53.440 --> 02:58.600 +to exercise informed consent because they themselves don't have the requisite knowledge. + +02:58.600 --> 03:04.280 +So these are the two topics I'd like to cover quickly tonight and then open for questions. + +03:04.280 --> 03:09.880 +The endemic hypothesis and infectious clones defined. + +03:09.880 --> 03:14.480 +I would like to put everybody on the same page by first just stating something that I + +03:15.480 --> 03:19.040 +want to justify through the rest of this talk. + +03:19.040 --> 03:25.680 +The TV algorithms and the NIH and CDC and all of these organizations like the who have + +03:25.680 --> 03:32.240 +convinced us that coronaviruses are a source of pandemic potential and that this pandemic + +03:32.240 --> 03:38.440 +potential can be accessed through cell culture passage with a relatively benign virus being + +03:38.520 --> 03:42.400 +turned into a pandemic potential virus. + +03:42.400 --> 03:47.480 +There's also the idea that you can passage it in animals and make it from a relatively + +03:47.480 --> 03:51.120 +safe virus to one that is pandemic potential. + +03:51.120 --> 03:56.880 +And the latest addition to this mythology is the idea that clever scientists can stitch + +03:56.880 --> 03:59.760 +together the right combination of genes. + +03:59.760 --> 04:05.760 +And then these viruses can circle the globe for three years and do what we call pandemic. + +04:05.760 --> 04:10.160 +I believe that this mythology has been created over the last 20 or more years, especially + +04:10.160 --> 04:17.600 +with regard to coronavirus with the idea of us having to surrender our individual sovereignty + +04:17.600 --> 04:22.800 +and a global inversion from freedom to some kind of fascism where you must have permission + +04:22.800 --> 04:24.400 +to do everything. + +04:24.400 --> 04:30.000 +This mythology, I'm going to argue in this talk is wholly unsupported by what we know + +04:30.000 --> 04:37.920 +about RNA versus DNA replication possibilities and also just the behavior of these entities + +04:37.920 --> 04:42.720 +that we are now calling RNA viruses in this talk. + +04:42.720 --> 04:49.400 +Not coronavirus, we're just saying RNA viruses so we make that distinction. + +04:49.400 --> 04:54.240 +So to put everybody on the same page, I just want to get everybody aware of where the endemic + +04:54.240 --> 04:59.920 +hypothesis fits in, Tony Fauci would have you to believe that in 2018 above my head + +04:59.920 --> 05:05.600 +there was no coronavirus 2019 in September at some point, a coronavirus was released + +05:05.600 --> 05:12.400 +in Wuhan and something like the fuse of a firecracker, it went around the earth and + +05:12.400 --> 05:17.880 +spread in many different directions, eventually became alpha, beta, delta, and eventually + +05:17.880 --> 05:22.920 +omicron in South America, South Africa, which then took over the globe. + +05:22.920 --> 05:29.520 +And now we are on some ancestral version, our next ancestor of, or descendant of rather, + +05:29.520 --> 05:31.160 +of omicron. + +05:31.160 --> 05:37.600 +In this model, the earth remains green because there were no health problems before the pandemic + +05:37.600 --> 05:42.520 +and no health problems were caused by the lockdowns, the protocols of the vaccines. + +05:42.520 --> 05:46.440 +Without those changes, many more millions of people would have died. + +05:46.440 --> 05:52.120 +In this scenario, we have defeated epidemics in the past with vaccination. + +05:52.120 --> 05:57.920 +National coronaviruses can jump from species and go around the world, they can pandemic. + +05:57.920 --> 06:03.960 +False positives are rare because PCR is good and specific and variants are evidence of + +06:03.960 --> 06:07.800 +both spread and the continued evolution of a single pathogen. + +06:07.800 --> 06:11.560 +We spend money studying viruses using gain of function research. + +06:11.560 --> 06:16.000 +This is the basic TV narrative on one side. + +06:16.000 --> 06:20.280 +And the what they would like you to fight about really is whether or not it was a natural + +06:20.280 --> 06:25.760 +virus that just happened to fall out of a cave and get on to a train and a plane or + +06:25.760 --> 06:31.120 +if it was a mistake made in a laboratory by some very arrogant scientist who either took + +06:31.120 --> 06:38.920 +a lot of virus out of the wild and then infected his local town or a city or that they even + +06:38.920 --> 06:42.760 +worse made something in a laboratory that otherwise wouldn't have existed. + +06:42.760 --> 06:46.640 +But again, green earth, there are no health problems. + +06:46.640 --> 06:50.760 +And then the pandemic comes along and here we are. + +06:50.760 --> 06:51.920 +Same difference. + +06:51.920 --> 06:56.840 +The virus spreads, it changes to Omicron, it takes over the world and now we're at a + +06:56.840 --> 07:01.880 +new version of Omicron taking over the planet. + +07:01.880 --> 07:05.720 +In this scenario, again, the lockdowns don't have to have heard anyone, vaccines can have + +07:05.720 --> 07:12.400 +saved lives, the protocols were the best they could do and the same thing holds true for + +07:12.400 --> 07:14.560 +all of these things. + +07:14.560 --> 07:20.360 +We use vaccination to defeat epidemics in the past, novel coronaviruses can jump from + +07:20.360 --> 07:26.440 +the wild, PCR works great, variants are evidence of spread, and we spend money on gain of + +07:26.440 --> 07:27.760 +function research. + +07:27.760 --> 07:32.800 +You can tweak this one a little bit if you want and say that the lockdowns and the EUAs + +07:32.800 --> 07:39.120 +caused some excess deaths, but the majority of people still died from a virus. + +07:39.120 --> 07:42.560 +And so there are many different ways to tweak this narrative. + +07:42.560 --> 07:47.880 +Another way that this narrative has been tweaked is that there are no viruses at all, + +07:47.880 --> 07:53.360 +that measles doesn't exist, that there was never a coronavirus, that everything is a lie. + +07:53.360 --> 07:59.800 +This is of course not very, it's not very acknowledging of what we know of all of the + +07:59.800 --> 08:07.320 +molecular biological techniques and the synthetic viruses and clones that they can make. + +08:07.320 --> 08:13.600 +So there are these entities and we have studied them for a long time and I think this scenario + +08:13.600 --> 08:17.160 +is one of those traps, so you have three traps here. + +08:17.160 --> 08:22.920 +You have a natural virus, you have a lab leak virus and you have absolutely no viruses at + +08:22.920 --> 08:24.800 +all. + +08:24.800 --> 08:33.560 +And none of those three encompass the true biology that we knew already for basically the duration + +08:33.560 --> 08:35.240 +of modern medicine. + +08:35.240 --> 08:40.560 +If you go before the pandemic into a medical textbook and look up coronaviruses, they will + +08:40.560 --> 08:48.480 +tell you that between 25 and 35% of all respiratory disease without a known cause is thought to + +08:48.480 --> 08:54.840 +be caused by coronaviruses, of which there may be up to 200 varieties which circulate + +08:54.840 --> 08:57.200 +in humans. + +08:57.200 --> 09:04.400 +And now instead of this being the baseline, we start with a baseline where there are coronaviruses. + +09:04.400 --> 09:08.320 +And then in 2019, it doesn't even matter. + +09:08.320 --> 09:09.960 +Was there a release? + +09:09.960 --> 09:11.320 +Was it a natural one? + +09:11.320 --> 09:13.640 +Did a few people get sick in Wuhan? + +09:13.640 --> 09:20.120 +It doesn't matter because the PCR can't differentiate between any of these coronaviruses. + +09:20.120 --> 09:26.000 +This is the illusion that they've placed on you because all they needed to do was accentuate + +09:26.000 --> 09:32.880 +different coronaviruses found in the background and claim a phylogenetic progression. + +09:32.880 --> 09:38.600 +It means wizardry, but it is one of the only ways in which this molecular signal will + +09:38.600 --> 09:41.280 +be shared so beautifully. + +09:41.280 --> 09:47.360 +The lockdown's protocols, vaccines account for the total excess deaths in the pandemic. + +09:47.360 --> 09:55.760 +There nothing unusual happened until we stopped treating respiratory disease the usual way. + +09:55.760 --> 10:01.400 +The interesting thing about this endemic background hypothesis is, is that the PCR's + +10:01.400 --> 10:06.720 +are not having false positives in the way that you think all the time. + +10:06.720 --> 10:10.880 +Yes, you can overcycle a PCR test. + +10:10.880 --> 10:17.240 +But if the background is hot for homologous genes from endemic coronaviruses, that they + +10:17.240 --> 10:20.080 +are pretending are not there. + +10:20.080 --> 10:25.360 +You have a situation where a vast majority of the good positives are still picking up + +10:25.360 --> 10:31.000 +background coronavirus and not whatever they purport to have been released. + +10:31.000 --> 10:34.440 +Now, Jay, can I just interrupt you just to make sure that people understand what you're + +10:34.440 --> 10:40.320 +saying is what you're saying is, is there are a number of coronaviruses that we just + +10:40.320 --> 10:47.200 +live with and have lived with all our lives and that the PCR test is not specific to what + +10:47.200 --> 10:50.200 +governments call COVID-19. + +10:50.200 --> 10:56.640 +The PCR test is just testing for genetics that are already in this background of coronaviruses + +10:56.640 --> 10:57.640 +that we live with. + +10:57.640 --> 10:59.160 +Is that what you're saying? + +10:59.160 --> 11:08.040 +I'm saying that yes, that that is the scientific literature at this stage, the ability to pinpoint + +11:08.040 --> 11:14.880 +a particular coronavirus is not a level of fidelity that they had before the pandemic. + +11:14.880 --> 11:20.200 +And there's no reason to believe from looking at any of the PCR tests and the primers that + +11:20.200 --> 11:26.120 +they've put forward, that they've come up with a unique and highly specific PCR test + +11:26.120 --> 11:31.840 +that can differentiate between one coronavirus and the hundreds of others that are in the + +11:31.840 --> 11:32.840 +background and rare. + +11:32.840 --> 11:33.840 +Okay. + +11:33.840 --> 11:34.840 +So sorry for interrupting. + +11:34.840 --> 11:37.000 +I just thought that was important for people to understand. + +11:37.000 --> 11:38.000 +Absolutely. + +11:38.000 --> 11:39.000 +It's not a problem at all. + +11:39.000 --> 11:43.000 +Additional harms were also caused by the response of including the lockdown, including + +11:43.000 --> 11:46.440 +use of specific agents like Madaz Lam and Ramdesivir. + +11:46.440 --> 11:55.800 +The point of this theory is to show and this hypothesis is to remind everyone that your + +11:55.800 --> 12:01.000 +gut feeling that the PCR test was one of the primary ways that the hood was pulled over + +12:01.000 --> 12:02.000 +our eyes. + +12:02.000 --> 12:04.000 +You are absolutely correct. + +12:04.000 --> 12:10.840 +And the one trick that they still have up their sleeve is the idea that there was a novel + +12:10.840 --> 12:17.240 +virus for which you had no previous immunity, even in the worst case scenario here. + +12:17.240 --> 12:22.720 +Where there is a release from a laboratory, you still would have had previous T cell and + +12:22.720 --> 12:28.560 +B cell immunity from previous coronaviruses because of the homology between these genes + +12:28.560 --> 12:31.800 +had a great chance of overlapping. + +12:31.800 --> 12:38.640 +And so the concept of this being a novel virus is also canceled out in this hypothesis. + +12:38.640 --> 12:40.440 +It's not possible. + +12:40.440 --> 12:46.120 +And people were making that argument in 2020 from March on and they were just ignored. + +12:46.120 --> 12:48.200 +Mike Yeiden is one of them. + +12:48.200 --> 12:54.880 +So if we move forward then, let's think about how this could be possible. + +12:54.880 --> 13:01.800 +In the United States, the total number of deaths is in sky blue here behind my head. + +13:01.800 --> 13:06.360 +And the number of pneumonia deaths is in light blue down here in the bottom and I hope + +13:06.360 --> 13:08.480 +you can see this arrow. + +13:08.480 --> 13:13.040 +The very yellow at the bottom here are identified flu virus deaths. + +13:13.040 --> 13:17.320 +And so what you see here at this part is the beginning of the pandemic. + +13:17.320 --> 13:21.760 +This is 2014 to the pandemic. + +13:21.760 --> 13:28.240 +And what you see is although year on year seems like we got pneumonia under control. + +13:28.240 --> 13:32.800 +Remember ladies and gentlemen, these are pneumonia deaths. + +13:32.800 --> 13:37.320 +Many, many, many more people get pneumonia, but don't die. + +13:37.320 --> 13:46.200 +And then suddenly after 2014, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 20, what do I mean, what? + +13:46.200 --> 13:52.160 +Up to three times as many people in the United States started dying of pneumonia in a way + +13:52.160 --> 13:55.720 +that they've never done before. + +13:55.720 --> 14:05.520 +And that is a number of deaths which correlates precisely with any possible, any possible excess + +14:05.520 --> 14:06.520 +deaths. + +14:06.520 --> 14:14.080 +It is extraordinary really that this correlation is so high and people have still, still ignored + +14:14.080 --> 14:15.080 +it. + +14:15.080 --> 14:19.320 +And I know everybody here is familiar with Denny Rancor's work and he has done an excellent + +14:19.320 --> 14:25.000 +job of dissecting how the all-cause mortality in America was organized in different places + +14:25.000 --> 14:26.920 +around different times. + +14:26.920 --> 14:32.480 +And John Bodman is another researcher in the United States who's done excellent work correlating + +14:32.480 --> 14:38.320 +these new causes of death and what happened during the beginning of the pandemic was simply + +14:38.320 --> 14:42.920 +a mismanagement of respiratory disease in hospitals. + +14:42.920 --> 14:47.360 +And it's been done with one particular methodology, right? + +14:47.360 --> 14:53.680 +They said there was a dangerous novel virus, it could be detected by a PCR test. + +14:53.680 --> 15:00.480 +And they correlated that PCR test with detrimental health protocols where they took away antibiotics + +15:00.480 --> 15:04.040 +from people who probably should have just had antibiotics. + +15:04.040 --> 15:12.000 +They didn't allow people to be treated with repurposed drugs and instead insisted on remdesivir. + +15:12.000 --> 15:15.320 +They ventilated people to prevent spread. + +15:15.320 --> 15:21.800 +And these detrimental health protocols were encouraged by giving hospitals $35,000 a patient + +15:21.800 --> 15:23.800 +that got on a vent. + +15:23.800 --> 15:28.120 +That enabled a larger portion of all-cause mortality than PNI, that's pneumonia and + +15:28.200 --> 15:32.840 +influenza, to be prioritized as a national security threat. + +15:32.840 --> 15:34.080 +That's what you're referring to. + +15:34.080 --> 15:39.920 +Your previous speakers are referring to when they say that this is a military operation. + +15:39.920 --> 15:46.280 +This was identified as a national security threat caused by a novel virus. + +15:46.280 --> 15:52.960 +Therefore, we could execute a plan that we had and it is still in motion. + +15:52.960 --> 15:57.280 +My argument would be that if you need a molecular signature which would have seeded + +15:57.280 --> 16:03.320 +this event around the world, it could not have been a point release of a coronavirus + +16:03.320 --> 16:07.280 +because its genetic signature would have changed sufficiently in different directions around + +16:07.280 --> 16:13.960 +the world so that none of this uniformity in variants could have ever occurred. + +16:13.960 --> 16:18.720 +And yet somehow or another, we are told this story of a clean progression of variants + +16:18.720 --> 16:23.840 +around the world sweeping, sweeping, sweeping in these waves and colors. + +16:23.840 --> 16:30.080 +There's no precedence, none, zero precedence in biology for any phenomenon of an RNA virus + +16:30.080 --> 16:32.280 +to do such a thing. + +16:32.280 --> 16:37.080 +And yet without any questioning at all, we just took it. + +16:37.080 --> 16:41.200 +And I'm saying to you now that I think the only way this could have happened is if they + +16:41.200 --> 16:46.880 +purposefully planted these molecular signatures in the places that they were going to blame + +16:46.880 --> 16:52.560 +and call part of the pandemic because a natural coronavirus swarm cannot do this. + +16:52.560 --> 16:59.000 +And then the goal again is to a total surrender of individual sovereignty and removing these + +16:59.000 --> 17:01.040 +basic human rights granted permissions. + +17:01.040 --> 17:05.960 +The way that they did it with four basic ideas, they did it by changing the way you think + +17:05.960 --> 17:10.240 +about respiratory disease, we just got through saying that there used to be hundreds of causes + +17:10.240 --> 17:12.480 +of respiratory disease. + +17:12.800 --> 17:18.320 +And now we have all basically saying it's either not that one or it's that one. + +17:18.320 --> 17:20.600 +They also changed how we think about all cause mortality. + +17:20.600 --> 17:24.960 +That's why I show you that picture with the blue and the blue because in America, we never + +17:24.960 --> 17:27.040 +saw the light blue. + +17:27.040 --> 17:31.720 +Nobody ever looked at all cause mortality and said, okay, let's put this in perspective. + +17:31.720 --> 17:33.000 +We're in America. + +17:33.000 --> 17:35.560 +Three million people die every year. + +17:35.560 --> 17:38.040 +Nobody said that. + +17:38.040 --> 17:42.920 +Nobody told us that every week between 50 and 70,000 Americans die. + +17:42.920 --> 17:49.240 +So when they say that, wow, a thousand people died of COVID, it sure sounds crazy. + +17:49.240 --> 17:52.400 +Then they changed how we think about our immune response to disease. + +17:52.400 --> 17:57.280 +This was very diabolical because it was part of the way that they sold us on the shot. + +17:57.280 --> 17:58.640 +Antibodies are what you need. + +17:58.640 --> 18:04.720 +They had to change the way you think about your immune response to a respiratory disease. + +18:04.720 --> 18:09.640 +And then they changed the way they think about vaccination so that you don't question + +18:09.640 --> 18:13.000 +the applicability of transfection for immunization. + +18:13.000 --> 18:14.280 +That's what these are. + +18:14.280 --> 18:16.200 +These are transfections. + +18:16.200 --> 18:20.280 +Everybody should be calling them that because this technology has been around for more than + +18:20.280 --> 18:25.360 +two decades and it's never been called anything else. + +18:25.360 --> 18:30.800 +That's why I originally got in trouble with my job and lost got too much attention was + +18:30.800 --> 18:37.240 +because of speaking out about transfection because I used it on mice for many, many years. + +18:37.240 --> 18:41.480 +So after they changed their mind about these four basic biological principles, they were + +18:41.480 --> 18:44.120 +able to ventilate people to prevent spread. + +18:44.120 --> 18:48.400 +They used remdesivair and medazolam to kill old people and young. + +18:48.400 --> 18:53.480 +They untreated bacterial pneumonia went up by at least three to four times, shutting + +18:53.480 --> 18:59.120 +down schools, masking children, and social distancing, even people who were married for + +18:59.160 --> 19:03.280 +50 years and let them die apart. + +19:03.280 --> 19:07.960 +And at the same time in Scientific American, the who just recently in March put out an + +19:07.960 --> 19:14.760 +article which stated, of course, masks, I mean, sorry, mRNA vaccines are safe, powerful, + +19:14.760 --> 19:15.760 +and effective. + +19:15.760 --> 19:22.360 +Those are exact words, masks work, indoor air quality matters, wastewater tracking is useful. + +19:22.360 --> 19:24.560 +And genomic surveillance is key. + +19:24.560 --> 19:28.160 +They are doing exactly what they planned. + +19:28.160 --> 19:32.120 +They are going in exactly the direction that they planned to go. + +19:32.120 --> 19:34.200 +So they haven't wavered at all. + +19:34.200 --> 19:36.920 +So how can we get them to? + +19:36.920 --> 19:43.360 +How can I help you rather to understand this endemic hypothesis and what it really means? + +19:43.360 --> 19:47.200 +Think you got to understand the infectious cycle and the infectious clone and what it + +19:47.200 --> 19:48.200 +is. + +19:48.200 --> 19:52.160 +So that's what we're going to do here and then I'll be done. + +19:52.160 --> 19:55.960 +The infectious cycle is depicted in this cartoon here. + +19:55.960 --> 19:58.120 +They have a viral particle. + +19:58.120 --> 20:00.360 +It binds to its receptor. + +20:00.360 --> 20:06.720 +It comes into the cell and releases its RNA and then the RNA needs to get translated into + +20:06.720 --> 20:13.560 +proteins and then those proteins start copying the RNA into different segments. + +20:13.560 --> 20:19.680 +And then this long genomic RNA gets packaged into new viruses and those new viruses go + +20:19.680 --> 20:23.280 +out into the wild to infect other people. + +20:23.280 --> 20:29.680 +We've seen lots of versions of this cartoon in all of the news programs. + +20:29.680 --> 20:35.920 +You may have even seen a cartoon where they show you in three dimensions, the RNA and + +20:35.920 --> 20:43.080 +the end protein and the imagination of the viral particle and the formation of the full + +20:43.080 --> 20:46.280 +variant inside of an endosome. + +20:46.280 --> 20:50.600 +But this is a lot of hand waving in terms of what they know about what happens here and + +20:50.600 --> 20:56.040 +they know about what the fidelity of this is all hand waving because up until now these + +20:56.040 --> 20:57.840 +are RNA viruses. + +20:57.840 --> 21:02.600 +The only way to look at them is to use reverse transcriptase to turn them into DNA and then + +21:02.600 --> 21:04.520 +do PCR. + +21:04.520 --> 21:09.160 +And once you do that, you really only find what you're looking for because your PCR is + +21:09.160 --> 21:12.360 +pulling up things that are specific for the primers. + +21:12.360 --> 21:16.600 +So if you don't choose the primers correctly, you're not going to see everything that's + +21:16.600 --> 21:17.600 +here. + +21:17.600 --> 21:22.360 +So up until this stage, it's pretty hard for them to say, you know, what are these viruses + +21:22.360 --> 21:24.240 +that get produced look like? + +21:24.240 --> 21:27.280 +How many of them are they, how uniform are they? + +21:27.280 --> 21:32.880 +What is the genetic variation between the particle that you get infected with and the + +21:32.880 --> 21:41.040 +particles that get produced by supposedly the hundreds or the thousands during infection? + +21:41.040 --> 21:45.880 +And so if I simplify this a little bit, the TV and Fauci has told you that you get infected + +21:45.880 --> 21:51.280 +with the coronavirus, the coronavirus goes into your lungs, it makes copies of itself. + +21:51.280 --> 21:55.080 +And if it makes too many copies of itself, you start coughing those out on people around + +21:55.080 --> 21:59.360 +you and then they also get sick from the variant that you're sick with. + +21:59.360 --> 22:03.240 +That's why all these virions are yellow. + +22:03.240 --> 22:06.760 +The question is, why do they have so much trouble culturing these viruses? + +22:06.760 --> 22:09.840 +You're going to hear a lot of people say, well, they don't have trouble culturing, but + +22:09.840 --> 22:15.120 +they do have to use a 96 well plate and they look for psychopathic effects and they might + +22:15.120 --> 22:19.600 +find it in two wells and then they call that a viral isolate. + +22:19.600 --> 22:23.760 +They can do a PCR test on that, maybe find an E protein, well, see now there's definitely + +22:23.760 --> 22:25.880 +a coronavirus there. + +22:25.880 --> 22:28.600 +That's the isolate, that's culturing. + +22:28.600 --> 22:32.960 +It's not like growing mushrooms and then you grow some more and give them to your friends + +22:32.960 --> 22:37.960 +so they can grow them or give them a tomato cutting or say give them a couple breeding + +22:37.960 --> 22:42.640 +pair of mice so that they can have the same mice that your laboratory invented. + +22:42.640 --> 22:48.280 +If you find a novel coronavirus, the only thing you can do to share it with somebody + +22:48.280 --> 22:53.200 +is to give them the sequence because you can never grow enough coronavirus from a magic + +22:53.200 --> 23:00.400 +bat swab to let's say divide it between four labs and let them do their thing with it. + +23:00.400 --> 23:03.680 +That's not how RNA viruses work. + +23:03.680 --> 23:10.880 +Unfortunately, not very many virologists are adequately informed of the limitations of + +23:10.880 --> 23:11.880 +their work. + +23:11.880 --> 23:18.640 +A lot of them are not adequately informed about how this is a particular limitation in coronavirus. + +23:18.640 --> 23:24.680 +The reason why this is is because a large majority, if not the vast majority of the + +23:24.680 --> 23:34.440 +particles that are produced during a coronavirus infection are in fact replication incompetent. + +23:34.440 --> 23:40.560 +What that means is they have a mistake, they're missing genes, their genome did not get completely + +23:40.560 --> 23:46.440 +run but it still got packaged and so even though they look like a virus, when they bind + +23:46.440 --> 23:51.960 +to the next cell and release their contents in there, those contents won't have all the + +23:51.960 --> 23:58.200 +doodads and gazoos ready to go, all the genes present in order to make copies of itself. + +23:58.200 --> 24:03.880 +Therefore, in the cartoon above my head, it now becomes more obvious why it's difficult + +24:03.880 --> 24:09.400 +to culture coronaviruses because not all the particles that you detect that might be + +24:09.400 --> 24:13.600 +PCR positive for an end protein are going to be infectious. + +24:13.600 --> 24:17.200 +Now, you might think who words you learn that? + +24:17.200 --> 24:23.160 +In most cases, a large fraction, if not the majority of the virus particles that are produced + +24:23.160 --> 24:25.160 +are defective. + +24:25.160 --> 24:30.760 +Then I get it produces viruses, but in most cases, a large fraction, if not the majority + +24:30.760 --> 24:36.480 +of the virus particles that are produced are defective, then I get for anything. + +24:36.480 --> 24:42.120 +So I learned it from Robert Malone, but once you know this, you can go back into the literature + +24:42.120 --> 24:49.160 +before 2020, before they were trying to obfuscate all this lack of fidelity and you can see + +24:49.160 --> 24:50.960 +them plainly complain about it. + +24:50.960 --> 24:58.760 +In fact, describe looking for coronaviruses using pan-coronavirus, PCR primers because + +24:58.760 --> 25:04.400 +it's very, very difficult to find a particular coronavirus. + +25:04.400 --> 25:08.440 +And so the people that have known this, everybody knows this, but this all started way back + +25:08.440 --> 25:14.040 +in the 80s with Vincent Rancid Yellow and David Baltimore because they did this technique + +25:14.040 --> 25:16.160 +with the folio virus. + +25:16.160 --> 25:22.960 +But since then, almost everybody that works on coronaviruses, from coronaviruses in plants, + +25:22.960 --> 25:29.160 +in salmon, in mice, it doesn't matter. + +25:29.160 --> 25:34.640 +They never start with a wild sample that they went deep into the forest to get. + +25:34.640 --> 25:39.480 +They start with a sample that they cloned. + +25:39.480 --> 25:41.600 +So what does that mean? + +25:41.600 --> 25:52.680 +Well, as I explained, the wild virus here depicted as a cassette tape is lacking fidelity + +25:52.680 --> 25:58.640 +because DNA versus RNA, basically you can copy DNA because it's double stranded. + +25:58.640 --> 26:00.960 +You can also check and proofread it. + +26:00.960 --> 26:06.320 +And there are a whole host of secondary enzymes that are very good optimized at doing that. + +26:06.320 --> 26:12.360 +With RNA, because it's single stranded, although it is purported that there is proofreading + +26:12.360 --> 26:18.680 +in coronaviruses, the biology of coronaviruses requires them to be able to have a certain + +26:18.680 --> 26:19.680 +mutation rate. + +26:19.680 --> 26:26.360 +And even more, it requires a regular recombination rate because of the subgenomic RNA production. + +26:26.360 --> 26:33.200 +Therefore, there is a great fraction because of errors in recombination, because of shortened + +26:33.200 --> 26:39.480 +genomes, which are called defective genomes when in other viruses, where you get essentially + +26:39.480 --> 26:45.400 +a large portion that are replication incompetent. + +26:45.400 --> 26:50.520 +But when you use PCR to sequence this group of viruses that you might find in a bat, you + +26:50.520 --> 26:58.320 +can get a consensus sequence, and that consensus sequence can be translated into DNA. + +26:58.320 --> 27:03.680 +And you can think of that as a CD, and you can make lots of copies of a CD because CDs + +27:03.680 --> 27:05.560 +are digital. + +27:05.560 --> 27:08.920 +And DNA can kind of be thought of high fidelity like that. + +27:08.920 --> 27:14.800 +You know, one in a million bases is a mistake, maybe even less than that. + +27:14.800 --> 27:22.240 +And so if you use bacteria, you can actually make a bunch of this CD. + +27:22.240 --> 27:27.240 +You can make a bunch of this CD in a bacterial culture, and keep in mind, this is exactly + +27:27.240 --> 27:31.440 +how they make the RNA for the shot. + +27:31.440 --> 27:33.720 +They make a circular DNA. + +27:33.720 --> 27:40.680 +It encodes the spike protein RNA, and they make lots of copies of that DNA in a bacterial + +27:40.680 --> 27:46.920 +culture, and then they add an RNA polymerase, and that produces the genomic RNA, or for + +27:46.920 --> 27:50.720 +the shot, it would produce the spike RNA. + +27:50.720 --> 27:56.600 +And that spike RNA that needs to be separated from that plasmid DNA before they injected + +27:56.600 --> 28:00.760 +in your kids, but apparently they didn't do that very well. + +28:00.760 --> 28:08.200 +Now this process here, very similar, you use circular DNAs to encompass the entire genome + +28:08.200 --> 28:10.200 +of the coronavirus. + +28:10.200 --> 28:16.480 +You add RNA polymerase to make lots of RNA copies of that same clone. + +28:16.480 --> 28:18.920 +One sequence, that's it. + +28:18.920 --> 28:24.680 +It's not going to be perfect, but let's say the RNA polymerase is pretty good. + +28:24.680 --> 28:29.440 +So you know, most of these are going to be fairly long transcripts, and they're all going + +28:29.440 --> 28:33.040 +to be the transcript that you built out of this DNA. + +28:33.040 --> 28:38.880 +Then you take that and you use electricity, or a centrifuge, or any other number of ways. + +28:38.880 --> 28:43.840 +You take that pure genomic RNA for that virus, and you put it in a cell culture, and then + +28:43.840 --> 28:48.240 +what that cell culture makes will make animals sick. + +28:48.240 --> 28:52.800 +What that cell culture makes will cause cytopathic effects, and you can do plaque assays and + +28:52.800 --> 28:54.760 +all that stuff. + +28:54.760 --> 28:59.520 +But you can always send the DNA, you can always send the DNA to your friends. + +28:59.520 --> 29:05.040 +You can put the DNA in the freezer, you can print the DNA, you can order it from companies. + +29:05.040 --> 29:10.160 +You can order these five plasmids from companies, and they'll print them right up, and then + +29:10.160 --> 29:15.200 +you put them in your bacteria and grow as many liters as you want, and then convert that + +29:15.200 --> 29:21.000 +liters to as much RNA as you care to make over and over again. + +29:21.000 --> 29:26.720 +This is gain of function, not the mixing and matching, not going into bad caves. + +29:26.720 --> 29:34.640 +It's making pure versions of what they detect in the wild using PCR and sequencing. + +29:34.640 --> 29:36.400 +This is how they get around it. + +29:36.400 --> 29:44.000 +This is how RNA virology is done, and especially coronavirus biology, and Ralph Barrack's lab + +29:44.000 --> 29:48.960 +is famous for the techniques that are necessary to assemble these long genomes and produce + +29:48.960 --> 29:54.360 +infectious clones that can be used in laboratories. + +29:54.360 --> 29:59.040 +So the point is, is that if we could do that, right, we can look at this, we can ask ourselves + +29:59.040 --> 30:01.120 +what kind of viruses are produced. + +30:01.120 --> 30:06.480 +Can we look at that infectious versus non-infectious, can we look at that fraction and see it up + +30:06.480 --> 30:07.480 +until now? + +30:07.480 --> 30:13.440 +It's been very hard because we use PCR, which means we have to convert these RNAs to DNAs, + +30:13.440 --> 30:20.280 +and then we have to amplify them up, and then all the fractions and all of the relationships + +30:20.280 --> 30:28.400 +between which was more abundant is lost. + +30:28.400 --> 30:34.040 +So they have recently come up with a way of doing it where they can sequence the RNA + +30:34.040 --> 30:39.760 +directly, which means that they can just look at, well, are you going to take all the viruses + +30:39.760 --> 30:45.640 +that are supposed to be in this culture, and we're going to dump them through a nanopore, + +30:45.640 --> 30:49.800 +and we're going to see how many of these different RNAs we find. + +30:49.800 --> 30:56.960 +So in a virus, when the virus makes copies of itself, it makes copies of the whole genome, + +30:57.400 --> 31:04.720 +which is 30,000 bases long, but it also makes skip copies with a leader sequence that then + +31:04.720 --> 31:13.000 +skip down to these TRSB sequences and make what is called subgenomic RNA, and these subgenomic + +31:13.000 --> 31:21.960 +RNAs turn out to be several orders of magnitude more abundant than the genomic RNA, which should + +31:22.040 --> 31:30.560 +be the RNA that gets packaged in the new viruses and sent out to infect other cells. + +31:30.560 --> 31:40.640 +So if we use a clone of SARS-CoV-2, and we put it in a cell culture and we watch it replicate, + +31:40.640 --> 31:49.640 +what we see is 400 to 600,000 copies of the end protein, I think I got one more click here. + +31:50.640 --> 31:55.560 +No, I don't. So I'm going back, sorry about that. I thought this zoomed in a little bit, + +31:55.560 --> 31:59.840 +but it doesn't. So here you can see on this map, they're doing coverage of the genome here on the + +31:59.840 --> 32:03.200 +bottom. You don't have to look at these two on the bottom. I should have covered these up. + +32:03.200 --> 32:10.440 +We're just looking at this 1B-B figure right here. This is the genome on the bottom, + +32:10.440 --> 32:19.120 +nucleotide zero to 30,000. And as this black line rises, they find more sequences of this part + +32:19.120 --> 32:27.040 +of the genome. And so it's way down here at under 1,000 over here. And it starts to rise, + +32:27.040 --> 32:34.960 +the S protein is above 50,000. And then we get up to 200,000 with the E and the M. And then we + +32:34.960 --> 32:44.560 +get up above 400 to 600,000 with the end protein. So 600,000 copies of the subgenomic RNA for the + +32:44.560 --> 32:52.480 +end protein. And how many copies of the full genome did they find? The longest tags correspond + +32:52.480 --> 33:03.760 +to the full length genomic RNA, and they found 111. 111 whole genomes, and about 600,000 copies + +33:03.760 --> 33:12.400 +of the end protein, and thousands of copies of these other subgenomic RNAs. So interestingly, + +33:12.800 --> 33:18.480 +this is this breakdown where you have hundreds of thousands of these subgenomic RNAs and only a + +33:18.480 --> 33:25.280 +handful of whole genomes that are supposed to be the new infectious virus that you've been + +33:25.280 --> 33:33.200 +culturing. This has been known for decades. Ever since they've been able to isolate the RNA + +33:33.200 --> 33:40.800 +from a picture like this, or purporting to isolate the RNA, corresponding to a picture like this, + +33:40.800 --> 33:47.520 +when they try to isolate these viruses here, they don't find a pure, you know, these are all + +33:47.520 --> 33:52.400 +really long genomes that we sort through them and sequence there's never been an experiment done + +33:52.400 --> 34:00.240 +like that. When they do this, they find this crazy ratio of almost no genomes, and thousands + +34:00.240 --> 34:08.160 +and thousands of copies of these partial subgenomic RNAs. Now, the argument that the virologist will + +34:08.160 --> 34:14.080 +make is that you need a lot more N protein and S protein and M protein in order to package + +34:14.080 --> 34:21.840 +new virus. And so that's why you need hundreds of thousands of those RNAs and only a handful + +34:21.840 --> 34:29.520 +of the full genome. But that still doesn't jive with the known amount of not infectious particles + +34:29.520 --> 34:36.080 +that the right side of virology often will acknowledge. So again, if you look at this, + +34:36.080 --> 34:44.720 +and you think about what's really being packaged here, they have none experimental evidence that + +34:44.720 --> 34:49.680 +it's only full genomes being packaged and in fact by the abundance of the RNA, + +34:49.680 --> 34:54.960 +by what they found in all previous experiments, it's very likely that the vast majority of the + +34:54.960 --> 35:02.080 +particles that are produced are having incomplete genomes, if not even subgenomic RNA. So just to + +35:02.160 --> 35:07.840 +be sure, you don't think I'm crazy right before the pandemic, they did this with a human coronavirus + +35:07.840 --> 35:14.480 +called 229E. They made a clone of it. They grew it in a cell culture. They did exactly the same + +35:14.480 --> 35:21.280 +measurement. Here's the entire genome on the bottom. Here's 10 to the fourth, 10 to the fifth of N + +35:22.400 --> 35:26.640 +protein, and then all the way down here, if you look at the last figure of the paper, you find + +35:26.720 --> 35:36.080 +that they found two whole genomes in that clone, two. So we're not getting thousands of viral + +35:36.080 --> 35:41.360 +particles being produced when we when we do these culture experiments. And I think coronavirus + +35:41.360 --> 35:46.320 +people have known this for some time, and they just kind of hand wave it, because here's a paper + +35:46.320 --> 35:54.480 +from 2001, where you can see the full genome is barely a ghost. And the N protein and the E protein + +35:54.480 --> 36:01.840 +and the S, these guys are gigantic overexposed plots. So they've known that this ratio occurs + +36:01.840 --> 36:06.960 +no matter how they set up these clones, no matter how they do it, they know that these partial genomes + +36:06.960 --> 36:12.800 +get packaged since before the eighties and nineties they've been looking at the replication and + +36:12.800 --> 36:19.840 +packaging of coronavirus infectious bronchitis, defective RNAs. It's essentially how come there's + +36:19.840 --> 36:26.560 +so many of these, these viruses that just have like junk or, or partial, what we thought were + +36:26.560 --> 36:32.160 +the genome of these, that's because that's the way this works. That's the best fidelity that these + +36:32.160 --> 36:38.480 +things are able to serve from our own cells machinery. Here's a paper from 2023, + +36:39.280 --> 36:45.760 +acknowledging the generation and functional analysis of defective viral genomes during SARS-CoV-2 + +36:45.760 --> 36:51.360 +infection. Those are not infectious particles. And if you read this paper here, right here in + +36:51.360 --> 36:56.960 +the importance, defective viral genomes are generated ubiquitously in many RNA viruses, + +36:56.960 --> 37:03.840 +including SARS-CoV-2, their interference activity to full length viruses, and interferon stimulation + +37:03.840 --> 37:09.920 +provide potential for them to be used in novel antiviral therapies and vaccines. This has been + +37:10.000 --> 37:14.480 +known for some time in flu, although the flu field seems to like to ignore this. + +37:16.640 --> 37:24.160 +So infectious clones defined is simply put that RNA viruses are tricky. They've been very hard to + +37:24.160 --> 37:30.080 +understand and study because they are often only observable as what is an indirect shadow of a + +37:30.080 --> 37:39.760 +genetic signature found through reverse transcriptase PCOM. And that ability, or lack of ability, + +37:39.840 --> 37:45.120 +lack of fidelity has opened this door for people to say that, look, they haven't isolated the virus. + +37:45.680 --> 37:51.360 +The isolation doesn't work. These experiments are nonsense. Therefore, there are no viruses at all. + +37:52.560 --> 37:58.480 +And this is a very, very dangerous place for us to be. We need to wake up and realize that we've + +37:58.480 --> 38:03.360 +never really understood coronaviruses with the fidelity portrayed on television. We've never + +38:03.360 --> 38:08.480 +been able to tractably manipulate them in the lab the way it's been portrayed on television. + +38:08.560 --> 38:14.080 +And they certainly do not travel the globe in the fidelity that has been travel portrayed on + +38:14.080 --> 38:18.640 +television. So has it actually been cultured just to address this quick before we stop? + +38:19.760 --> 38:27.040 +Let's look at this paper. This paper actually became famous because a correlation between + +38:27.040 --> 38:35.200 +3,790 quantitative polymerase chain reaction positive samples and positive cell cultures. + +38:36.080 --> 38:44.800 +It says here that up to the end of May, 3,790 of these samples reported on a positive nasopharyngeal + +38:44.800 --> 38:51.200 +samples were inoculated and managed for culture as previously described. Interesting. Let's go + +38:51.200 --> 38:57.920 +to where they're previously described. This is the paper that they previously described it in. + +38:57.920 --> 39:03.360 +You can see that they're almost all the same authors just in different order. A total of 183 + +39:03.920 --> 39:11.760 +samples tested positive by RTPCR, including nine sputum samples, 174 nasopharyngeal swabs + +39:11.760 --> 39:20.000 +from 1,155 patients were inoculated in cell cultures. SARS-CoV-2 RNA positivity in patient samples + +39:21.600 --> 39:30.880 +was assessed by real-time PCR targeting the EG. Not the S, not the RNA dependent RNA polymerase, + +39:30.880 --> 39:37.840 +not the N protein, the EG. That's it. So listen carefully. This is culturing coronavirus at the + +39:37.840 --> 39:47.920 +beginning of the pandemic and showing 3,000 positives. All patients, 500 microliters of that swab fluid + +39:48.480 --> 39:55.120 +or sputum were passed through a .22 micrometer pore filter that's to remove bacteria. + +39:56.000 --> 40:02.640 +And then were inoculated in four wells of 96 well-culture microplates containing + +40:02.640 --> 40:13.520 +zero-six eses, zero-E6 cells. After centrifugation, that's to get the stuff to go into the cell culture. + +40:14.480 --> 40:24.080 +After centrifugation at 4,000 Gs, microplates were incubated at 37 degrees. They were observed daily + +40:24.080 --> 40:30.720 +for evidence of cytopathogenic effect. Two subcultures were performed weekly. That means every + +40:30.720 --> 40:36.240 +week they split them. So they moved the whatever was growing. They moved it into a new fresh + +40:37.920 --> 40:46.400 +well with cells next to it. Two subcultures weekly presumptive detection of virus in supernatant + +40:47.040 --> 40:53.520 +showing cytopathic effect was done in a scanning electron microscope. No images shown. + +40:54.880 --> 41:01.120 +So if there was cytopathic effect, they assumed that there was a virus and they put it under the + +41:01.120 --> 41:06.320 +microscope to see. But they didn't show you anything. And they don't tell you how many of those they + +41:06.320 --> 41:13.520 +found anything in. There's no data from that. And then confirmed by specific PCR targeting the E gene. + +41:15.440 --> 41:23.360 +It's a loop. Don't you see? It's just a loop. I tested positive for an E gene. Then they made + +41:23.440 --> 41:30.480 +me cough into a dish. And then if any of those cells died, they said, wow, that's pretty cool. + +41:31.120 --> 41:34.800 +That's a coronavirus because he tested positive for the E gene. + +41:38.720 --> 41:44.960 +Now they tested again in that culture and find the E gene again. The E gene is not proof of a + +41:44.960 --> 41:51.040 +coronavirus. The E gene doesn't prove that a coronavirus caused the cytopathic effects. These + +41:51.120 --> 41:57.840 +are the objections that the no-virus people bring to the table. And these objections are very solid + +41:57.840 --> 42:04.560 +for a vast majority of these papers during the pandemic. It is just an insufficient level + +42:05.280 --> 42:14.160 +of scrutiny. It's an inefficient, insufficient level of control. And it is a giant pile of + +42:14.160 --> 42:18.000 +assumption that is instead, interestingly enough, in this paper, + +42:18.960 --> 42:24.640 +confusing people by saying hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin were effective at shortening + +42:24.640 --> 42:33.600 +the duration of this read. And so this is another aspect of the immunomethology. You've got to be + +42:33.600 --> 42:40.640 +very careful of so many of these repurposed drugs were given in combination with other drugs. + +42:40.640 --> 42:48.160 +And then over and over sold as the drug. For example, this paper was pushed as evidence that + +42:48.160 --> 42:53.280 +hydroxychloroquine could work without acknowledging that azithromycin is given with it. + +42:57.360 --> 43:02.880 +The games that they have been playing are many. If we go back to before the pandemic to a guy like + +43:02.880 --> 43:10.800 +Mark von Rontz, who was the flu commissioner for Belgium for the 2009 flu and got his own + +43:10.800 --> 43:16.640 +infectious disease lab where he works on testing for coronavirus. Here he is arguing why we need + +43:16.640 --> 43:22.880 +coronaviruses can't be found without using pan-coronavirus primers. He's got a whole book + +43:23.600 --> 43:30.080 +chapter about how pan-coronavirus RT PCR assay for detection of all known. This is how they did it. + +43:31.040 --> 43:35.040 +It's not specific, ladies and gentlemen, and these people have known that. + +43:36.480 --> 43:43.280 +And so they tell you these stories about these imperfect genetic ghosts in the wild that have + +43:43.280 --> 43:51.280 +potential to become permanent circulating pathogens. They talk about how if you let the wrong guy, + +43:51.280 --> 43:59.280 +like Peter Desac, into the wrong Batcave, he can passage those viruses in cell culture and pull out + +43:59.360 --> 44:06.160 +pandemic potential on the other side. They might also do it with ferrets someday, or worse yet, + +44:06.160 --> 44:10.320 +somebody like Ralph Barrick will stitch a bunch of things together that should have never been there + +44:10.960 --> 44:18.640 +and and will have a pandemic. In reality, the only potential danger that could be used and + +44:18.640 --> 44:27.280 +weaponized against us is the production of RNA viruses using DNA clones. That is the danger. + +44:27.920 --> 44:31.680 +That is the reason why they don't ever talk about it. They talk about gain of function + +44:32.320 --> 44:37.680 +as a way of make sure that you don't understand that that's not the danger. There was never a + +44:37.680 --> 44:45.440 +danger from coronavirus. Coronaviruses were always largely if they are part of this + +44:46.160 --> 44:52.880 +causes of respiratory disease yearly, then they are part of a very benign set of some things that + +44:52.880 --> 44:59.040 +float around. They are not part of this at never ending source of pandemic potential. So this is + +44:59.040 --> 45:06.320 +what I think they did. They declared a pandemic of a dangerous novel virus, or which the PCR was + +45:06.320 --> 45:13.440 +not specific. And yet they applied a unique and mostly detrimental protocol for respiratory + +45:13.440 --> 45:19.360 +disease to those people that tested positive. And they enforced that with financial incentives. + +45:19.360 --> 45:25.280 +This was all part of a military plan in the United States, which was ready to be executed + +45:25.840 --> 45:30.800 +when the excuse was given and the excuse was given when these protocols were changed. + +45:31.520 --> 45:36.400 +It could have been an infectious clone. You could have used a clone to see the same sequence in + +45:36.400 --> 45:44.240 +Iran and Wuhan and in Italy. And that unique and identical sequence around the world would have + +45:44.240 --> 45:50.640 +been a molecular selling point for their have being an ongoing pandemic. And if it was required + +45:51.360 --> 46:00.240 +in order to fool these governments in in Europe and in in Italy and like Italy is not Europe. But + +46:00.240 --> 46:07.040 +to fool these governments around the world, if that was required, a clone of a wild coronavirus + +46:07.040 --> 46:13.280 +would have been more than sufficient for us to have seeded these things and then let the plan + +46:14.640 --> 46:18.160 +roll on forward with just using this a specific PCR test. + +46:19.840 --> 46:24.480 +Again, I want to plug Denny Rancor's data because it's so important to understand + +46:25.200 --> 46:31.360 +how if there was a novel respiratory disease for which no one had any immunity, then there + +46:31.360 --> 46:37.120 +would have been a predicted impact on all cause mortality and those predicted impacts were not + +46:37.120 --> 46:45.200 +seen at all. And his analysis is is fantastic. And then finally, I just want to make sure I + +46:45.200 --> 46:49.760 +remind you one more time that nobody should be using transfection. I was so excited to hear + +46:49.760 --> 46:55.760 +someone say that earlier today. There's no debate. It should not be used in healthy humans. And up + +46:55.760 --> 47:01.920 +until the pandemic, it was only used on people who were likely going to die anyway. So please + +47:01.920 --> 47:06.320 +stop transfection because they want to eliminate the control group. Once everybody's been transfected + +47:06.320 --> 47:13.440 +a few times, all of these ailments, all of these increases in illness and auto immunity will all + +47:13.440 --> 47:19.520 +just blend into a background of increasing public health problems rather than being able to be + +47:19.520 --> 47:25.360 +identified as, wow, the people who have triple transfected themselves are having worse and + +47:25.360 --> 47:31.200 +worse outcomes a year on year, which I think is the truth that has already emerged and can only + +47:31.200 --> 47:36.080 +emerge in greater and greater numbers as we move forward. Thank you for your patience. + +47:38.000 --> 47:40.960 +I hope that was okay. That's the end of my presentation. + +47:40.960 --> 47:45.600 +Jay, that was really interesting. Now, I'm just hoping to clarify a couple of things with you + +47:45.600 --> 47:52.160 +and ask you something new. So you use the term transfection, which for most of us is a new term. + +47:53.040 --> 48:04.560 +We think of mRNA technology, but that's a new term for transfection. So you're saying + +48:04.560 --> 48:10.800 +transfection instead of mRNA vaccine because transfection is the correct term. + +48:12.240 --> 48:19.040 +Yes, that's correct. So if I can add to that a little bit, for the academic bench biologist, + +48:19.040 --> 48:23.600 +that means somebody that plays with mice or monkeys in a laboratory and they want to + +48:24.240 --> 48:30.560 +change the local protein expression, upregulate it, downregulate it, maybe even knock down a gene, + +48:31.200 --> 48:35.920 +there are ways that that's done and that's ways that's been done for about 20 years. + +48:35.920 --> 48:42.320 +One way to do it is to use an adenovirus where you put the DNA of interest in coding the protein + +48:42.320 --> 48:47.440 +that you want to express in that adenovirus and you put that adenovirus in the brain of the mouse + +48:47.520 --> 48:54.720 +and it will go where it's going to go and express that protein. Using DNA to express protein in a + +48:54.720 --> 49:02.560 +cell is called transformation. And if you use mRNA to do the same thing, you can use electricity + +49:02.560 --> 49:09.760 +to put the mRNA in, you can use lipids like they're doing now. Sometimes people use gold particles. + +49:11.040 --> 49:14.880 +There's lots of different ways to do it, but regardless of how you do it, + +49:15.760 --> 49:21.120 +you use mRNA. It's called transfection. If you use DNA, it's called transformation. + +49:21.120 --> 49:27.520 +And so if you go on the website of sigma or thermal fissure and you just look for transfection + +49:27.520 --> 49:34.880 +products, they'll have a whole webpage on it. And there's no difference between the mRNA shots that + +49:34.880 --> 49:40.560 +they're giving and any previous transfection technology except for maybe the proprietary bubble + +49:40.640 --> 49:47.040 +that they put it in. But it's the same technique with the same lack of tissue specificity and dose + +49:47.040 --> 49:51.360 +control that they've never been able to replicate in any other application of it. + +49:52.160 --> 49:58.560 +Now you've said that we shouldn't use transfection in humans and can you explain, + +49:58.560 --> 50:06.240 +give you reasons why we should not use transfection or as most of us know, mRNA technology in humans? + +50:07.120 --> 50:15.120 +The proof is in the use. So in a laboratory animal, for example, + +50:16.480 --> 50:22.000 +in your using transfection, you're inevitably going to get autoimmunity. Animals that are + +50:22.000 --> 50:27.600 +transfected are not intended to live long, healthy lives. They're always sacrificed and then + +50:28.560 --> 50:35.680 +their tissue is used to look at the changes that you made. And so up until very recently, + +50:35.680 --> 50:41.120 +I don't think anybody's really thought about this as a very viable technique except to use for + +50:41.120 --> 50:46.240 +somebody who's already going to die from like cancer or something like that. And the trick is + +50:46.240 --> 50:52.480 +to realize, and I think that this is a very true statement, although I'm, I, this is more of a + +50:52.480 --> 50:56.640 +gut feeling to me, but it's a gut feeling that a lot of other people have had for a long time. + +50:56.640 --> 51:03.920 +It doesn't matter really. If you express a particular toxic protein, it doesn't have to be the spike. + +51:05.680 --> 51:12.000 +If you've expressed a foreign protein in your cells and it's random cells in your body, + +51:12.000 --> 51:18.400 +your immune system only can do one thing. It can unleash the neutrophils, destroy those cells, + +51:18.400 --> 51:24.240 +and clean them up. Now, if those are your heart cells, it's permanent damage. If it's endothelial + +51:24.240 --> 51:33.200 +cells, you have endothelial damage. If it's ovary cells, you have ovary damage. And this is a known + +51:34.160 --> 51:41.920 +downside of transfection. You don't, it's just a, it's a blunt tool. It's been used for a long time + +51:41.920 --> 51:47.680 +in academic medicine. And for 20 years, people have been dreaming about making it into a viable + +51:47.680 --> 51:55.200 +therapeutic methodology, but they've never even come close to getting it to work in, in single + +51:55.200 --> 52:01.600 +examples, nevermind on a scale of billions. And there is no other conclusion to come to + +52:02.160 --> 52:09.840 +that if you want to treat, or beneficially, and a mammalian like a human that you want to live + +52:09.840 --> 52:18.720 +for 20 more years, transfection is not a therapeutic option. And anybody that has sold it as such + +52:19.840 --> 52:30.800 +has either been telling us allies or has been just really wrong. It's, it's not to be done. + +52:31.600 --> 52:36.240 +There's just, there, it doesn't, it's not fit for purpose. They would like you to believe that + +52:36.240 --> 52:42.400 +it is, but you could not, you cannot all usefully augment someone's immune system + +52:42.400 --> 52:48.000 +by transfecting foreign proteins randomly in their, in their body. It's just ridiculous. + +52:48.560 --> 52:56.560 +Okay. And, and your opinion on that is based on animal study after animal study after animal + +52:57.520 --> 53:04.800 +study and some use in a very small subset of humans who are, you know, terminal with cancer + +53:04.800 --> 53:11.280 +and things like that. Yeah. And also very, very anecdotal personal experience. I can tell you + +53:11.280 --> 53:21.360 +one, three second story. I was asked to help do a experiment in squirrel monkeys where they + +53:21.360 --> 53:27.680 +wanted to express a algae protein. It's a long story about why they would do that, but they + +53:27.680 --> 53:32.480 +wanted to express this protein in the brain of the monkey so that they could manipulate + +53:33.760 --> 53:42.240 +some circuitry and then go back to that brain region afterward and see what neurons they + +53:42.240 --> 53:46.160 +manipulated and see how they were connected anatomically. And maybe that was going to be a good idea. + +53:46.880 --> 53:53.600 +But when we started this experiment, I suggested to these primate, primate neuroscientists that + +53:53.600 --> 54:00.320 +look, when we transfect a mouse, I've got a window of like, let's say three to four weeks + +54:00.320 --> 54:04.880 +where I can do my experiment and everything is okay. But if I wait any longer than that, + +54:04.880 --> 54:09.920 +the place where I, I initiated the transfection starts to have problems and starts to, + +54:10.640 --> 54:16.080 +to have an immune reaction, which leads to a lot of neuronal death. So I tried to tell these, + +54:16.720 --> 54:21.280 +these, these primate, primate scientists that like, if we do this experiment, we got to do it + +54:21.280 --> 54:26.160 +on an animal that you're all done with, and that's already scheduled to be sacrificed, + +54:26.160 --> 54:31.520 +because otherwise, you might just lesion that area of the brain in four months, and then + +54:32.560 --> 54:37.760 +you won't even know what you did. Well, what did they do? Monkeys are expensive, + +54:37.760 --> 54:42.000 +so you can't just sacrifice them. So they let this experiment run, I think for, + +54:44.720 --> 54:49.040 +I think they let it run for 12, but it might even have been 18 weeks. And then when we did the + +54:49.040 --> 54:55.040 +anatomy and we cut into that area, almost all the neurons were gone. And that's because again, + +54:55.760 --> 55:01.600 +transfecting neurons and getting them to express foreign proteins is eventually a challenge that + +55:01.600 --> 55:07.200 +your immune system can't ignore. And that is true no matter where transfection is done. + +55:07.920 --> 55:15.680 +And, and, and in any current application of it, it should be an expected outcome. And it, + +55:17.120 --> 55:23.200 +so that, yes, it's not fit for purpose. Right. Now, I wanted to go back, you've, + +55:23.200 --> 55:30.560 +you've made the point, and I think it's important for people to understand, is coronaviruses are part of + +55:31.440 --> 55:37.200 +just basically the environment that we live in. There's, there's a number, there's hundreds and + +55:37.200 --> 55:43.680 +hundreds of coronaviruses. And, and so many that the conventional wisdom is, is that what did you + +55:43.680 --> 55:51.760 +say 20 or 30% of our, you know, flu's, annual flu's are considered to be caused by one or + +55:51.760 --> 55:58.000 +another of these hundreds of coronaviruses. That's, I've got that right. Yes, correct. + +55:58.000 --> 56:06.000 +So what my question is, is this started with just a bang in the media in, in early 2020, + +56:06.000 --> 56:13.600 +and all of a sudden we seem to be using a PCR test for a specific coronavirus that we're + +56:13.600 --> 56:22.720 +told is, you know, SARS-COVID-2 or named COVID-19. Is it possible that there was a specific PCR test + +56:23.280 --> 56:31.680 +for a specific new virus at that time? It's not, I don't think that it is, + +56:32.400 --> 56:41.840 +it is possible for them to have had the fidelity to use the, the PCR's that they designed were not + +56:41.840 --> 56:48.640 +designed, cannot be designed to be, to be specific the way that they were designed. + +56:48.720 --> 56:53.760 +As far as I understand, for example, in, in Canada, after talking to Dr. David Spector, + +56:54.400 --> 57:01.360 +they didn't have nested primers for your PCR, which means that, that any overlap on the PCR + +57:01.360 --> 57:06.400 +sequences or partial overlap would likely result in amplification, which again, makes them + +57:06.400 --> 57:13.120 +a specific for the genes that they're amplifying. And because this was a national security issue, + +57:13.760 --> 57:19.920 +the, the goal would not have been to be as specific as possible. But of course, as you guys know in + +57:19.920 --> 57:28.640 +Canada, to rope in all possible suspected cases. And so again, the more specific the test would be, + +57:29.200 --> 57:35.520 +I think the less appropriate it would be for the national security threat. So there's motivation + +57:35.600 --> 57:42.400 +for them to have not made a specific test. And more importantly, the background and, + +57:42.400 --> 57:47.760 +and lack of fidelity means that they could not have made a, a such a specific test. + +57:50.320 --> 57:57.040 +So the technology of the, the PCR, um, would it be your opinion then that they were basically + +57:57.040 --> 58:04.800 +that PCR test would just be identifying a family of coronaviruses? At best, at best. And again, + +58:04.800 --> 58:11.280 +remember, it's only identifying small fractions of the genome being present, + +58:11.280 --> 58:17.200 +which does not in any way shape or form indicate infectivity or even the presence of a contiguous + +58:17.200 --> 58:22.880 +virus, but just the presence of these genes, which are homologous across lots of coronaviruses. So + +58:23.920 --> 58:30.400 +it's, it's a very, very different lack of fidelity relative to what is portrayed. + +58:30.480 --> 58:36.000 +So, you know, if we had a, a multivitamin with, you know, a hundred different vitamins in it, + +58:36.000 --> 58:40.960 +this is really a test for one vitamin and then pretending that there's a multivite there. + +58:45.440 --> 58:50.240 +Just using an analogy that maybe people might understand, right? So think about that. + +58:51.600 --> 58:56.640 +It's a bit more like saying that there's a, that not telling anybody that there are any + +58:56.720 --> 59:02.240 +automobiles in the world and then saying, oh, there's a pandemic of Kia's and if we just test, + +59:02.240 --> 59:08.240 +we can, lots of people end up having Kia's and it's like, wow, that's pretty crazy. And then, + +59:08.240 --> 59:15.120 +oh, yeah, look, now we have, uh, Toyotas and now we have Hondas and as we change the, + +59:15.120 --> 59:19.920 +what we're identifying with the test, it seems like, wow, it's spreading all around the world, + +59:19.920 --> 59:24.880 +but those cars have always been there. And so in this case, they told us, I guess that there's an + +59:24.880 --> 59:33.120 +epidemic of, of Teslas, which can be tested for, by looking for wheels and a, and four doors + +59:33.840 --> 59:39.760 +and a windshield. And so when people tested their garage, they go, wow, I guess I got a Tesla too. + +59:40.880 --> 59:47.280 +And, and it's probably closer to something like that, where the specificity is implied + +59:47.920 --> 59:54.160 +when in reality, they're testing for things that all automobiles have. And so there is no pandemic + +59:54.160 --> 59:59.280 +of a particular kind of automobile. It's just that the test is confirming everybody's got a car + +59:59.280 --> 01:00:04.880 +or there are a lot of cars around. So just, just so that we're, we're clear. So if there, + +01:00:05.520 --> 01:00:13.040 +if the test is nonspecific and even if, I mean, because it's just testing for a part that isn't + +01:00:13.040 --> 01:00:19.360 +even, that is, it doesn't even tell us we have a whole genome, conceivably, then they could just + +01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:25.920 +come up with another virus name, start running a bunch of PCR tests and convince us that we're + +01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:32.080 +in the pandemic again. Absolutely, absolutely. I think this is the one you should almost assume + +01:00:32.080 --> 01:00:37.600 +that's what's going to happen. That's their plan. That's what PCR has been established as they can. + +01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:45.760 +That's what the who said in that article that I shared, genetics or genomic surveillance is a + +01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:51.360 +good way of following these things. So they would like to sequence the sewer all the time. They + +01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:57.600 +would like to, yeah, they would like to swab you monthly if they could. That's what they want, + +01:00:57.600 --> 01:01:02.960 +definitely. Right. But it's really just a tempt us in the teapot. It's a phantom. + +01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:09.280 +I mean, think of it this way, like rhinoviruses are a virus that we all know are very common, + +01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:15.360 +part of the common cold bouquet. And we're not sequencing and doing PCR for rhinoviruses right + +01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:21.840 +now, but they could. And as soon as they rolled those tests out and people that were asymptomatic + +01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:27.200 +and then cycled them too far, you'd get a lot of false positives right away. And if they told you + +01:01:27.200 --> 01:01:32.640 +it was one rhinovirus, instead of a specific for many, they could also convince you that, + +01:01:32.640 --> 01:01:37.680 +look, it's changing. So it's very tricky game they've played on us. + +01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:44.800 +Right. Now, do you have any information we've heard about people taking antibody tests? + +01:01:45.600 --> 01:01:51.760 +For SARS-CoV-2. And do you have any information on whether or not those are realistic tests, + +01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:55.040 +or whether to use your term, they would have high fidelity? + +01:01:56.240 --> 01:02:02.000 +I think they're probably, if done correctly, they're actually probably very good at identifying + +01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:09.760 +people with previous immunity. And recent exposure, it's tricky, right? Because they, + +01:02:10.640 --> 01:02:18.320 +I think, use the antibody test as a way of emphasizing the seroprevalence to this + +01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:23.280 +pike protein. So they get to choose what they search for when they say that they're going to + +01:02:23.280 --> 01:02:29.040 +build this antibody test. If they were going to be honest with it, we would look at this papers + +01:02:29.040 --> 01:02:36.400 +that we looked at today. And we see that the N gene or the N RNA is produced in the most abundance. + +01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:42.400 +So the loudest signal to look for, if you were going to see as someone recently exposed to a + +01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:49.440 +coronavirus would be that N protein. But there's almost no tests can find the N protein, + +01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:56.800 +epitope immune response in people that are vaccinated. Because they don't have a natural + +01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:02.880 +response to the virus anymore, which would be to respond to the RNA that gets produced the most, + +01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:08.160 +and the protein that gets produced the most, they are responding to the protein that they + +01:03:08.160 --> 01:03:17.040 +were forced to respond to. And that, that illusion was partially seeded by the idea of saying, + +01:03:17.040 --> 01:03:23.120 +here's an antibody test for the spike protein, it can show you if you've been infected. And so + +01:03:23.120 --> 01:03:27.760 +people got it in their head that, oh, the spike protein antibodies that tell if I'm infected, + +01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:32.800 +when in reality, you'll have T cells to the RNA, dependent RNA polymerase, + +01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:39.680 +and T cells to the N protein, and B cells to the N protein, all from overlapping previous + +01:03:39.680 --> 01:03:46.480 +infections. So you could have tested positive before the pandemic too, because you had natural + +01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:52.320 +immunity, you were exposed. So I guess to refine my question, I mean, I'm just wondering if it's + +01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:57.840 +possible that there's an antibody test specific to what we're called as, you know, + +01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:07.040 +COVID-19 or SARS COVID-2, as opposed to a antibody test, really for just this background + +01:04:07.680 --> 01:04:13.440 +group of coronaviruses. I think we're really, where I think you and I would be buying in + +01:04:14.160 --> 01:04:22.640 +to their simplified biology if we said that there was a SARS COVID-2 to separate from + +01:04:23.200 --> 01:04:30.240 +all of these other viruses. No, it is. It's just interesting because I live in the drug approval + +01:04:30.240 --> 01:04:37.520 +world regulation part. And for the, in Canada, we didn't have an emergency order that government + +01:04:37.520 --> 01:04:43.440 +came out with, rather, we don't have an emergency pathway that they could use. We hear in the U.S. + +01:04:44.160 --> 01:04:50.720 +this emergency approval. So we had an interim order that didn't define a specific virus. So + +01:04:50.720 --> 01:04:58.240 +they defined COVID-19 as relating to something that was not a specific virus. And that's, + +01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:03.760 +that got me very suspicious about our ability to identify a specific virus. + +01:05:04.560 --> 01:05:12.240 +I mean, much of the literature supporting this, this panoply of viruses that's circulating in the + +01:05:12.240 --> 01:05:18.720 +wild, if you look through this literature before the pandemic, you will find that entire papers are + +01:05:18.720 --> 01:05:26.320 +written about the diversity of coronaviruses in bad caves by looking for a 296 base length + +01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:33.760 +part of the RNA, dependent RNA polymerase. And if they find it, well, that's a, that's a, that's a + +01:05:33.760 --> 01:05:38.560 +coronavirus. They find another one, that's a coronavirus. And we find all these and then we + +01:05:38.560 --> 01:05:45.520 +make a little chart of how they're related. And this is a phylogenetic tree of bad coronaviruses. + +01:05:45.520 --> 01:05:54.880 +No spike proteins, no, no full sequences, and no viruses cultured. Just genetic sequences + +01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:59.280 +found using pan coronavirus primers for the RNA, dependent RNA polymerase. + +01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:09.760 +And so to go from a, go from a literature, which is so amorphous to now we can definitively tell + +01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:14.640 +you that this is the sequence and this is you positive or negative, all this stuff is just, + +01:06:14.640 --> 01:06:17.520 +it's smoking mirrors. They do not have that fidelity. + +01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:22.800 +Thank you. Those are my questions. I'll ask if the commissioners have some questions for you. + +01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:33.120 +Thank you, Dr. Khoi for this very interesting presentation. I mean, you certainly did a lot of + +01:06:33.120 --> 01:06:38.880 +effort to make it somewhat accessible for a lay person because, I mean, what you're + +01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:45.280 +discussing is fairly complex. I have a background in virology and I, I develop + +01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:50.640 +anovirus vaccine and all kinds of things. So I understand what you're coming from. + +01:06:51.520 --> 01:06:59.120 +But there's a few questions that popped in my mind. Do you have experience growing viruses, + +01:06:59.120 --> 01:07:03.120 +either small scale or large scale, or different type of viruses in your lab? + +01:07:04.720 --> 01:07:10.560 +I only have had the privilege of working with somebody who does it for me. So no, I've never, + +01:07:10.560 --> 01:07:15.920 +I've never enriched adenovirus, for example, or anything like that. It's stuff that, + +01:07:16.720 --> 01:07:22.960 +that I take for granted that, that has been commercial, commercially available since, + +01:07:23.520 --> 01:07:29.680 +I guess since I had my first lab. So for me, I take a lot of things, especially with adenovirus + +01:07:29.680 --> 01:07:36.240 +production and, and the transformation experiments that I've done. I just take it as very commercially + +01:07:36.240 --> 01:07:41.520 +accepted that adenovirus can be made and it can be packaged with the DNA that I want in there. + +01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:48.800 +And my question has to do with the, your, your very interesting concept of infectious clone. + +01:07:48.800 --> 01:07:55.840 +I mean, to me, it's not a big surprise because I know that even DNA viruses base, + +01:07:55.840 --> 01:08:03.280 +would it be an OAV when you actually go to the trouble of doing deep sequencing and you isolate + +01:08:03.280 --> 01:08:08.560 +clone based on plaque formation and you're very careful to make sure that it's clonal. + +01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:15.280 +And you grow it just one cycle. You'll see variants immediately after one cycle of replication. + +01:08:15.280 --> 01:08:21.520 +And as you pointed out, the fidelity of replication for DNA is more higher than RNA. + +01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:28.720 +So I've always thought of RNA viruses from any, any source, would it be plant or bacteria or + +01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:35.760 +mammalian viruses as kind of quasi species. I mean, the extreme being the HIV, where I mean, + +01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:41.120 +where hepatitis, I mean, you, you find a lot of variation, which makes the characterization of a + +01:08:41.120 --> 01:08:48.000 +clone that much more difficult. Having said that, we now have tool to do that. And I've noticed that + +01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:56.720 +you were citing a paper from the Gia Raul's lab that has done, I've been following his work for + +01:08:57.360 --> 01:09:03.120 +more than three years now. And he has done a large number of clonal isolation and tried to + +01:09:03.200 --> 01:09:10.080 +characterize it, doing deep sequencing to confirm that it's not just the PCR sequence that they were + +01:09:10.080 --> 01:09:18.640 +looking at. They were very thorough in order to do phylogenetic tree and so on. And are you + +01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:24.480 +wondering whether when you actually isolate a clone from an individual that is sick? And now + +01:09:24.480 --> 01:09:30.960 +you're trying to identify within this individual a clone or variant, and now they've called it + +01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:36.320 +variants of concern and stuff like that. Are you questioning that the moment you start to grow it + +01:09:36.320 --> 01:09:44.080 +in culture after a few cycle, you might end up with something that has already started to evolve + +01:09:44.080 --> 01:09:50.800 +or have differences in the overall sequence, because it's a long genome and the fidelity of the + +01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:58.400 +replication is not so great. So I assume that that happens. And that's the argument that + +01:09:59.360 --> 01:10:08.080 +pervades my head when I think about the idea that we were told that from Wuhan to Washington, + +01:10:08.080 --> 01:10:16.000 +to California, to New York and Italy, there were less than three amino acid differences for four + +01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:25.200 +months. And thousands of people, hundreds of thousands of asymptomatic infections were supposedly + +01:10:25.200 --> 01:10:33.120 +spreading around the world. But the virus was keeping a fidelity of of a ridiculous level. + +01:10:34.320 --> 01:10:43.600 +And and the the original SARS virus that was tracked in 2002 had an average of between like + +01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:53.040 +33 and 50 amino acid changes per patient for the first six months. And then this one changed + +01:10:53.120 --> 01:11:00.000 +10 amino acids in the first six months. So the stability of this the portrayed + +01:11:02.480 --> 01:11:11.440 +sequences has no previous biological precedent. So the only way that this this could have happened + +01:11:11.440 --> 01:11:17.520 +is if somebody seeded this level of fidelity around the world, like put a clone there so that + +01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:22.320 +everybody that they tested would have a cultural bull virus for a little while. And it would be + +01:11:22.320 --> 01:11:28.640 +a sequence of very high homology with the ones they released elsewhere. And then they slowly + +01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:33.760 +drifted away. They slowly recombined with the background. I don't even think that they would + +01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:40.080 +have to do it with very many patients. If you look through the the literature, you will find a very + +01:11:41.040 --> 01:11:49.680 +a large paucity of actual. And I'm talking about experiments now, like from from 2020, + +01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:54.560 +where they really isolated the virus sequence and said, wow, it's pretty much the same. + +01:11:55.520 --> 01:12:02.240 +It's not based on very many observations like that. America's entire pandemic is based on one + +01:12:02.240 --> 01:12:09.600 +sequence collected in Seattle from the Sohomish County man. And that's it. Every other sequencing + +01:12:09.600 --> 01:12:15.840 +reaction that was ever done was done behind CDC closed doors. And the sequences reported + +01:12:16.400 --> 01:12:23.360 +only after the CDC decided to report them. There's no one sequencing in America and there never was. + +01:12:24.080 --> 01:12:32.880 +And and so if these sequences are real as we are here now, the point is is what happened in 2020 + +01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:38.320 +was a portrayal of something that couldn't have happened. Now, we're talking about a background + +01:12:39.200 --> 01:12:47.200 +sequencing coronaviruses when we've never sequenced them in this with this rigor before 2022. + +01:12:47.200 --> 01:12:52.800 +It doesn't surprise me that we find all of this stuff. But to say that this is evidence of a + +01:12:52.800 --> 01:12:58.960 +pandemic is very, very different. And I don't think that that's evidence of a pandemic. It's + +01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:05.920 +evidence that those genetic sequences might be there. But he's got no data from 2019. So he + +01:13:06.000 --> 01:13:09.600 +doesn't know if he would find the exact same data set had he started looking then. + +01:13:12.240 --> 01:13:18.960 +So what we're seeing right now, though, I mean, in this Omicron era is that it seems that + +01:13:18.960 --> 01:13:26.080 +when you do a rigorous analysis, you do find other types of variant that seems to be more prevalent + +01:13:26.080 --> 01:13:31.040 +in the sense that I understand there's going to be a very wide diversity of different + +01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:39.520 +sequence of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. But the one that seems to be growing better in a given population + +01:13:39.520 --> 01:13:46.000 +in a given time will eventually be, if you want sample more frequently and in the end, you will + +01:13:46.000 --> 01:13:52.400 +have a overrepresentation of this variant until another one was superseded. So that's kind of a + +01:13:52.400 --> 01:13:59.120 +cycle. And it's probably it has probably been like that before we started to analyze the coronavirus. + +01:13:59.120 --> 01:14:04.240 +You just didn't know about it. There you go. You just said it. If it was like this and this + +01:14:04.240 --> 01:14:10.720 +pattern existed before the pandemic and they just announced it now, then we are being bamboozled. + +01:14:11.360 --> 01:14:15.840 +It's like saying that where there's a pandemic of automobiles while forgetting that we've always + +01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:25.120 +had them. So your hypothesis in terms of the endemic state is that we have been human population, + +01:14:25.120 --> 01:14:33.120 +I've been in an endemic state of coronavirus that could give respiratory infection as other + +01:14:33.120 --> 01:14:44.720 +viruses could like Reno and even Hano and RSV. You name it. And they somehow emerge more decided + +01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:53.040 +that these antipical respiratory infection was triggered by this particular new virus that has + +01:14:53.040 --> 01:14:59.200 +came in the environment and now was spreading all over the world. And it was almost the same + +01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:08.000 +kind of virus everywhere. And you find that difficult to fathom with the way normally + +01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:15.680 +coronaviruses will actually be in the environment. Is that your thesis in terms of a pandemic versus + +01:15:15.760 --> 01:15:23.680 +having local reproduction of coronaviruses in the population? Right. Remember, the pandemic + +01:15:23.680 --> 01:15:31.200 +definition is a virus that starts in a room and then spreads around the world without being able + +01:15:31.200 --> 01:15:41.200 +to be stopped. And that is a very, very specific set of biological claims. And so the idea that + +01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:47.040 +there are these many, many stories of people having an interesting respiratory disease + +01:15:47.040 --> 01:15:55.440 +is completely and wholly disconnected from the idea that a pathogen or a virus is moving + +01:15:55.440 --> 01:16:01.760 +around the world with high fidelity and is tracking with that disease. Because that is the illusion + +01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:10.880 +of the PCR. If you assume that a PCR test identifies a case knowing that the PCR can be false, + +01:16:11.280 --> 01:16:16.480 +positive, and also positive, false positive in the sense of a wrong coronavirus gene, + +01:16:17.200 --> 01:16:23.920 +then we have a really huge problem because the statement that a virus was released at a point + +01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:31.200 +and is still circulating the globe is not possible. And that requires an extraordinary + +01:16:31.200 --> 01:16:36.960 +amount of evidence. Not it's an extraordinary claim. It requires an extraordinary amount of + +01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:43.120 +evidence way beyond doctors saying that there's this new, I've seen a few people with a new + +01:16:43.120 --> 01:16:47.760 +sickness. And so I decided not to give them antibiotics and throw them early on the ventilator and + +01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:53.280 +give them some rendezivir. And they died. That's not an atypical respiratory disease. + +01:16:53.280 --> 01:16:59.280 +They can't differentiate from that and mistreating it if you changed your protocols across the entire + +01:16:59.280 --> 01:17:06.000 +nation. How can you call that a unique respiratory disease? When you stop treating the respiratory + +01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:13.600 +disease, you're way used to. And you started giving rendezivir or medazolam or not giving them + +01:17:16.400 --> 01:17:22.880 +steroids. All of these changes that were made and the autonomy taken away from doctors caused + +01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:31.280 +unique respiratory symptoms. That's the more likely explanation than an RNA virus maintaining + +01:17:31.280 --> 01:17:36.320 +fidelity for three years and now having a slightly different hat on that we call omega. + +01:17:37.280 --> 01:17:44.960 +So if I understand what your hypothesis is, is that the source coronavirus, COV-2, + +01:17:47.360 --> 01:17:55.120 +do exist and it can potentially induce diseases. But it was this kind of disease among all of the + +01:17:55.120 --> 01:18:02.240 +other disease you can find from respiratory viruses was not the unique cause of this so-called + +01:18:02.240 --> 01:18:09.680 +pandemic. And what we see in excess mortality is more likely attributed to what we've done in + +01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:18.320 +terms of lack of treatment and also all of the things that we've imposed to quote-unquote control + +01:18:18.320 --> 01:18:23.680 +the spread of the virus. Is that your working hypothesis? Absolutely, because if you talk about + +01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:30.960 +how people died, you don't have to talk about very much virus. Absolutely. Thank you very much. + +01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:32.240 +You're welcome. + +01:18:38.320 --> 01:18:45.360 +Dr. Kui, those are the questions of the panel. This was very illuminating. On behalf of the + +01:18:45.360 --> 01:18:50.720 +National Citizens' Inquiry, we sincerely thank you for attending today and providing your testimony. + +01:18:51.360 --> 01:18:55.920 +It was my honor. 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