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Early, what I want is high morbidity.
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I want people to complain.
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So what do I do?
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I go to Des Moines.
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Ladies and gentlemen and people on the screen, I have nothing against Des Moines, I live
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there for four years.
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I go to Des Moines, I infect a couple of sentinel cases in Des Moines.
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I go to Seattle, I infect a couple of cases there.
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I go to North Carolina, I go to Wisconsin.
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What I'm doing is I'm using a dispersion methodology to be able to infect sentinel cases with a
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highly morbid condition.
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These individuals complain.
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Again, this is a central nervous system condition, so they're complaining of whatever the bug
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may do.
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It'll produce some cascade of neurological and neuropsychiatric signs and symptoms.
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And then what I do, the real bug that I use is the internet.
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I take attribution for that.
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Yes, I'm a terrorist group.
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And I have done this by infecting with a highly little agent and the first signs and symptoms
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of lethality are X, Y, and Z.
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These people are really sick with this.
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But then I say, others who are also infected will show subdramal, predramal signs of lethality
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and what that will be is anxiety, sleeplessness, agitation.
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What I've now done is I've got every individual who is diagnostically hypochondriacal and I've
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got every individual who's worried well, flooding the public health system, banging
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on the door.
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The CDC comes back and says, nonsense, that's not real.
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I come back and say, that's fake news.
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And as a consequence of doing that, what I do is I create a schism between the polis
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and the public health system.
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I fracture the integrity of trust and reliance upon the population and its government.
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January 28, 2024.
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Welcome to Giga Own Biological.
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Glad all of you can join me.
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I'm trying to do a little early one and then maybe I can also do one later with a little
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more meat on it.
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I don't know.
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This one might be already a couple hours.
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We'll see what we do.
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I've got a basketball game this afternoon, I need to attend, and so I'll let you know
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what's up.
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We might have to stop this one a little early, but I think we're going to be able to make
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a good point here.
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I'm afraid that the latest data tells us that we're dealing with essentially a worse case
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scenario.
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I'm afraid that the latest data tells us that we're dealing with essentially a worse case
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scenario.
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The schedule for 16 minutes next is going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television.
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People everywhere are starting to listen to him.
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It's embarrassing.
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The rules, protect yourself at all times, follow my instructions, keep it clean, touch
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gloves if you wish, let's do it.
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20 pounds.
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This is so crazy.
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Like these bumps.
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This is so crazy.
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I feel so nervous.
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Like what in the world, man?
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We have been challenged lately in the public square that is Twitter X, to be able to see
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you try and more formalize our challenge to virology and I think we would be wise to
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move forward with caution because lots of people have tread this water before and so
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I'm pretty excited.
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Wow.
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Somebody lost a 42 year old friend to a brain and you're just, well, there's a downer.
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I'm not really sure what to say about that other than we're going to keep this fight
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up for everybody who's lost a friend and obviously it's still happening.
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I'm afraid Colin, I'm afraid it's going to get worse, not better.
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That's the issue here.
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That's the issue I feel is that that's where we are.
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They have manipulated us and we need to be the people that can hold the light to the
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truth.
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It's about the history.
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It's also about what's happening right now.
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It's about our recent history and our deep history and about things that some people just
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will not, will refuse to see.
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It's all about their God, AI and solving humanity's futuristic problems and they feel
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like they only have one chance in history.
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They've been bamboozled by themselves.
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They've been, they're bamboozling each other about this stuff.
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I got, I got called out on Twitter the other day because I don't call anybody out in big
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pharma.
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I don't call anybody out in the who or anywhere else.
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My goodness, the kind of thing that passes for debate on that platform is absolutely
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laughable.
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If you can't see the brick wall right now, I think we're in big trouble.
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Hopefully everybody here can see the brick wall of course, but that's 46 of you, 47 counting
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me.
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That's not a lot and we need to share this just a little bit more if you don't mind.
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This is a stream brought to you by a patch clamp physiologist.
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GigaOM is a resistance measurement, a value of resistance that you want to achieve when
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you're making these recordings and so I named this stream GigaOM biological and you can
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find that at dot com, you can also find us at GigaOM dot bio, which is a area placed
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in chat.
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You can support me with one time donation at the support GigaOM and then there's also
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a way to subscribe and I would really strongly encourage anybody who's been sitting on their
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hands about this to get on board right now because this, we've got about two months to
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see if we can push this boat out or if we're going to have to make some drastic changes
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to how we move forward.
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Right now the people that are helping us, helping my family try to push this boat out
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are listed here and it's not the only people.
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There's also some people who've made some single donations that I haven't been able
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to get onto the board yet and so you've got to apologize to me or I got to apologize
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to you for that.
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My wife and I, my wife has started to actually work for GigaOM biological in that respect
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and so communication should get a little better and so hopefully that's the case.
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So where are we?
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We are pushing back pretty hard now against the traditional idea of a pandemic, the idea
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that either a laboratory leak or a bat cave virus started somewhere in late 2019 and then
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circulated around the globe with pretty high fidelity, changing color as it went and that
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we're in the fifth year of it.
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We're pushing very hard against this faith in a novel virus but we can't stop now.
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We've got to clean up the mess.
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We've got to clean up the recent history mess before it becomes a lie that becomes
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the truth because they don't understand that it could have been a background signal, they
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don't understand that it could have been clones, they don't understand that it could have been
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a combination of many of these things.
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And I think it's really important that these ideas are always at the front because they're
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going to try and make it seem like, you know, the details of the story.
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Taking home gets all the details wrong, he doesn't know all the details.
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While they ignore the big messages and the big messages are the ones that we need to
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get to our kids, the big messages about this being an illusion, about this being a mythology
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that all of these people have somehow or another collectively agreed not to challenge and that
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they don't talk about there being no spread in New York City infectious clones, placebo
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batches or transfection, they don't talk about the protocols or gain a function being
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a mythology and they don't talk about us being fooled in dissolving this mystery because
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they are committed to this and they have a spectacular commitment to this lie.
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That's what I'm talking about, congratulations on Substack, thank you very much.
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It's taken me a little while to get that rolling and now I figured it out in Premiere and so
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making the transcript and the subtitles is not a ridiculous task anymore and so that's
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pretty fun.
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I'm really, really happy about that so thanks very much for noticing that I got that rolling.
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Hold on a second, let me get over here.
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Thank you very much for joining me, it is 2.40 in the afternoon here in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
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USA.
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I'm coming to you from the back of my garage, this is Gigoland Biological, hey, high resistance
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low noise information brief brought to you by a biologist.
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My name is Jonathan Cooey and as I said, it's the 28th of January and I don't know, I guess
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you can steal my identity now that you know that this is my birthday and I'm 52 but anyway,
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this is your 52 year old biologist who's put four hard years of his life into this, it's
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pretty crazy.
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I have a little plan here and I want to stick to it, oh, there's the secret, I didn't want
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that to show up yet, anyway, we will save that, that's fine.
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And then I'm going to pull up a new slide deck, it's a quick one and then we're going
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to get right to this movie which is actually session five of a gain of function research
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meeting from 2016 and I just wanted to do a brief introduction to it to make sure that
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we're all on the same page, especially of those of you who might be lucky enough to
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join us for the first time.
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We are trying to do the honorable thing and tell the truth to the young.
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In so doing, we need to dispel this idea which was first most adequately summarized by Edward
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Bernays in the early 20th century that the conscious and intelligent manipulation of
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the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element of democratic society.
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And now I want you to think about the fact that this guy came up with this idea in the
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20s when there were just newspapers and town criers and bulletins and things like that.
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And maybe soon after radio and telegram, but now we're talking about social media and think
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about what this statement means in the context of social media, in the context of algorithms
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in the context of amplification and whatever they call it, throttling or think about all
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of these things which are definitely real, definitely at play so that we get a very distorted
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view of the world.
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If we look through this particular window, we're going to have a very distorted view of
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the world and yet most of us are looking through that window.
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Some of us are looking at me through that window right now.
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And so in effect, right, in effect, the principal of informed consent has been ignored for the
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duration of the pandemic because we've been, you know, scrolling up and down and following
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all these people on Twitter and trying to figure out the truth by getting involved in
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different DM groups on Twitter and different signal chats and different telegram groups
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and different GAB and following locals videos that no one else pays to watch so you have
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the inside story.
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This is all the same surrendering basically of your informed consent just by overwhelming,
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overwhelming you, overwhelming your family and then isolating you as well.
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Look at that little girl on the couch.
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And so I firmly believe that this is the best American version of the deception that
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occurred.
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I'm sure it occurred everywhere around the world that they tricked the average TV watching
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social media surfing person to think that they were witnessing a sort of bad coverup
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of what turns out to be with a result of whistleblowers and leaks.
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More or less, a US funded gain of function program in Wuhan that ended up causing this
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calamity and we have been led to believe that we solved this problem.
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And I've given you this list of things to help you think about how the pandemic was
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created, which starts with seeding the gain of function narrative with scientific programs
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and peer reviewed publications for years before the pandemic.
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And then also remember that there were regular upper level exercises in the government, international
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exercises in the government, which drilled these, the response to such a pandemic potential
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actually emerging.
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And then we seeded mass casualty events with expected outcomes of transfection, at least
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let's just say that we didn't do anything to stop that.
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And more importantly, what we did was we had a bunch of actors in all different levels
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of social media and on mainstream media that we're prepared to, that were set up to were
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directed to, were encouraged to seed the narrative of the gain of function, the lab leak and
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attributes of the infection, the bad parts of the attributes that go all the way from
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heart attacks and myocarditis all the way up to amyloidosis and prion disease as a
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way of putting forth ideas which could then be confounded at the time when some of these
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symptomologies would emerge as a result of the transfection.
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And I believe that these people knew that some of these expected outcomes of mass transfecting
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the population could have been known and then could have been purposefully seeded into the
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virus narrative early on as the worst case scenario was being pushed behind the scenes
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and and off camera.
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And you could have participants that were involved in this, that were involved in a national
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security priority response, even like people at news, like producers at news programs,
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for example, could be could have been briefed secretly to say, Hey, you know, we have to
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talk these talking points and the entire news program and the entire all the newscasters
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would be clueless as to why their lines were the way that they were there.
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It's not a whole, you know, the whole channel 11 is not in on it.
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It only has to be one person at the top or near the top for this to have been flawlessly
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executed at every level of media.
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And so in the end, we have this virus and this transfection and it's their effects
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confounded and so that we're still arguing about whether it and they added to it.
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Of course, they've added this, this contamination and I believe they added this contamination
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because the spike protein toxicity narrative didn't take hold.
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It wasn't powerful enough.
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Maybe the dissident movement didn't bite it as hard as they wanted them to bite it.
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And so I have been putting up pictures of all kinds of people that I follow on Twitter
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and making the argument that it's the spread of these worst case scenario bad ideas that
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allowed this narrative to tumble forward out of control and allowed them to steer it right
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toward the need for transfection.
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And so a lot of people were just on board.
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They're just unwitting.
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They didn't know.
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And so we've talked about these guys before.
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We've talked about these guys before, you know, these guys are the ones who are arguing
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now.
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I've talked, I've found something very interesting with regard to Sasha Latipova.
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I've always wondered, I've been wondering about her, I've had her on my stream before
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with regard to the, to the shots and their, and their different batches.
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And then since then, she was on stage with Robert Malone and, and Meryl Nast and it's
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just been kind of a hands off situation at this stage.
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I don't need, I don't think a lot of us need to cooperate and have phone calls and,
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and, and have secret meetings all the time if we are all fighting the same thing that
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it's going to be fine.
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And I think what I see here is evidence of that.
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Now, I don't know, but it sure seems kind of cool.
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I didn't notice it until now, but this is January 17th, 2024, how to fake pandemics
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in four easy steps, due diligence and art is Sasha Latipova's sub stack.
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And here she said, she gives a shout out to, to, uh, John Bodwin, who I consider to
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be a really hard working guy who's got a great signal with regard to where the mortality
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came from and didn't come from during the entire pandemic.
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And he's got a lot of good information about the fact that the protocols were likely murder.
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And I love that.
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And I love John's work.
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And so her, um, saying that that's the case is, uh, is also really cool.
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Then down here, she's saying that the Spanish flu is also a fake pandemic.
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So that's something that I know my friend, Mark Koolak would agree with wholeheartedly.
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So I mean, two, two, whoops, so so far, she's digging all the bells.
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I mean, this is great.
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Pandemics are also not possible via science in what is called gain of function research,
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which amounts to mostly ridiculous attempts at software enabled sorcery, making soups
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of chemical mix with literally shit.
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As I discussed you in my previous article, yes, toxic chemicals and shit cause poisoning,
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but this does not spread itself.
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Of course, these labs should be shut down a waste of money and hazard thanks to Merrill
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Nass for this new, um, bulletin of atomic scientists where they talk about lab leaks
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and stuff like that.
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So here we go again.
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One way to look at this is that, that lab leaks mean that we're in trouble and there's
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going to be another, uh, pandemic or another way to look at it is is that the background
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is much richer.
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The background is much hotter in terms of PCR and in terms of coronavirus sequences and
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coronavirus diversity than any of these people want to admit, especially because our actual
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surveillance of the nine billion people on the planet is ridiculously low and has always
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been except for these last two or three years from 2020 onward.
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And so this is cool.
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This is a shout out to Merrill Nass, Merrill Nass being, um, a woman who has her own new
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nonprofit called doors to freedom or something like that.
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And also was a longtime advisor to CHD, uh, an organization that you and I both know
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that I really, really admire.
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So this is still, I mean, now we're on page two and we're, we're still just, you know,
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so hey, I mean, work hard, die rich, I guess is working out for her.
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And all pandemics to date have been faked by the military industrial globalist cabal,
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which sounds kind of like what we've come to the conclusion of over the last year or
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so.
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Um, sorry, JFK, RFK, despite your desire to appear middle ground, um, by including a
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lie with a majorly true majority truthful statement, COVID pandemic was also faked using
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the same basic script actors and funding.
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So that's interesting.
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I wonder what that video is.
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I won't play that now.
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But again, here she is kind of criticizing, uh, Bobby Kennedy for not going far enough,
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um, to say that the pandemic is fake, which is very, very interesting because again, remember,
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if they used enough clones, then from a molecular biological perspective, the pandemic doesn't
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need to be faked.
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And I think what we're dealing with here now is just realizing that there is a way to apply
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these techniques with the proper investment, the proper, the proper, whatever.
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I mean, you can call it Keystone cop if you want to, but moving viruses around is quite
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a bit easier than moving WMDs or, or missiles or things like that.
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I mean, we're talking about very small quantities being able to do in theory, very big things,
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especially if the only thing you want to do is have a PCR or a sequencing signal.
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Because the DNA could be put on people's clothes.
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It could be contaminated on swabs.
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It could be put purposefully in tests.
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There are a million ways to make enough DNA for this signal to go all around the world
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for sure, not by itself.
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And that's the point.
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That's the argument we're making.
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So this is okay.
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I mean, that's not bad.
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And then whoa, hey, look, what is the pandemic script?
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Let's hear it from the horse's mouth.
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And she shows James Giordano and the actual video that I've been using for almost three
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years now.
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It's hard to believe that she didn't see it on our work.
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And it's, you know, okay, I don't care because these ideas are getting out.
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If she never attributes this to me, but more people through her sub stack come to realize
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that the pandemic could have been.
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And it's a really good possibility that it was almost exclusively a lie, a coordinated
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spectacular commitment to lies.
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And that lie being the worst case scenario, then this is great.
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You have to see if this is worst case scenario, this is imitation, which is flattery, right?
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This case scenario, it's just, I guess, great minds think alike or something like that.
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But this is good.
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This is good.
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I consider it kind of, I don't know, I didn't see it until now, so I can call it a little
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birthday present.
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Anyway, I think the most important thing to see is that as everybody makes and fans the
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flames of hatred and frustration over Cooey being a divider or Cooey being out of his
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lane or whatever Cooey is doing six hour Scooby-Doo's instead of doing sequence searches
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on NCBI, we don't talk about these messages, which I think are the most important ones.
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If we can pass on to our children the immunology and general biology and appreciation for the
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sacred to understand that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent
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of augmenting the immune system is dumb, then our children and more importantly, our grandchildren
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will be fine.
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If we can teach our college age kids the transfection and healthy humans should be considered
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criminally negligent, we can turn those college age kids on their college faculty.
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Because it is their college faculty and I would go so far as to say specifically their
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natural sciences faculty, their chemistry faculty, their biochemistry faculty, their
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biology faculty, their medical school faculties, they should all be turned on.
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They should not necessarily be forced to kneel in the hallway or something like that,
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but every one of them should be forced to collectively admit as a faculty that they
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made a huge mistake by not stepping in front of this train.
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Everybody at the University of Pittsburgh should be sending me a card saying sorry dude
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were you right, I know they won't.
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But I'm saying that if we teach our college kids these truths, then that possibility becomes
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closer to reality, we're not going to make that happen, we can't make that happen because
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we aren't the ones this battle is about, we aren't the conscious that they're fighting
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for, they're fighting for our kids consciousness.
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And so in order to help for this, I think that I went back to that list, oh no I guess
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I didn't, I thought I did, and this is the first thing on the list, seeding the gain
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of function narrative with scientific programs and peer reviewed publications for years before
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the pandemic.
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Yesterday we watched a video from 2007, which was a bad video lecture of Ralph Barrick,
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which again I was, I'm still, I still assume it's a sketchy video because it was put up
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too late is put up by a weird account that I think is kind of associated maybe possibly
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with George Webb.
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And it had audio that was edited.
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The video was really poor.
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And so I'm not sure whether the video is just poor and then people thought you wouldn't
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be able to get anything from it.
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And they needed to edit those two parts out early because they said something crucial
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about his understanding of the infectious cycle.
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I'm not really sure.
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But I'm assuming that that video in some way or another was make meant to make us Scooby-Doo,
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remove the mask of Barrick and say, wow, it's really true.
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Now that you remind me, I forgot how incriminating these videos were.
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And I think this could be actually an instructive way to push that farther because last night
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I think our conclusion was is that Barrick had a number of ideas on how to attenuate
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viruses to make vaccines, how to prevent de-attentuation in coronaviruses was big on his radar.
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And he was looking to harness what I think he saw as a more ubiquitous signal in nature
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and use it as a biotechnology.
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And I proposed this three years ago already when I was starting to kind of understand
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what was going on with coronavirus and had listened to a lot of what he said and had
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listened to this particular symposium.
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But now I would like to revisit it because I think it's a really important symposium
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and I noticed that my friend Mark Koolack at Hewson-Tonic ITS had built a webpage around
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it.
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Here, let me clip that out and send it to you on the chat so that everybody can find
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it.
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If you're not familiar, his website and show are one of the only advertisements that
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I have in the beginning of my stream.
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And this website has all of the videos there.
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It has some of the brochures.
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That's where I got this little thing from.
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And I didn't peruse the whole thing.
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I just queued this thing up.
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So this is actually queued up on YouTube.
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It's not, I queued it up directly on YouTube, but it's also, the link is also available
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on Mark's website.
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And I can't stress enough how important it is, this work that Mark does, all this archiving
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and all of this, you know, putting everything in one place is so important in light of the
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fact that a lot of times I think some of this stuff is just not really archived on purpose.
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It's not that it's not out there, but nobody's making an extra effort to be sure that it's
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available.
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And I think Mark has done just a absolutely breathtaking job of collating some of this
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stuff together so that when you follow people through their career or you follow people
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through their education or through the development of their ideas, you can really, you know,
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link to link to link all on one site.
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I mean, it's really a master work.
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So kudos to Mark.
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Here we go.
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Um, an excellent session on the potential.
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I do have it at normal speed because they have, they're speaking a lot.
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They say a mouthful.
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So we'll see how far we can get before I have to go to the game.
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I got at least an hour.
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So let me ask the four panelists to come up now and we can so get settled in and get
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comfortable.
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There is King clone.
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And that's a dort murder, Dortmer.
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He's the guy from Norvartis that makes synthetic flu viruses for vaccines.
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And then the third guy is, um, who's that dude?
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And then this is denizen.
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This is the remdesivir guy and this is, um, the coronavirus editing guy speaking for
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for about five minutes and then we'll have a little crush discussion.
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So this is going to be kind of cool.
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These two dudes are like hardcore.
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This guy makes flu virus every year for the vaccine.
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So he's like, he knows all about clones.
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Trust me.
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I'll make this quick.
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Um, maybe the next slide, please.
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So I'm going to basically present just a little vignette on how gain of function research
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and the regulation around research affects a real world case of trying to apply some
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virology to Jeffrey.
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How are you?
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Good to see you, man.
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So just a historical reminder that I think most of you are well aware of.
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And that is that in 2009, we had the fastest vaccine response in history, but the vaccine
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came to market and substantial quantities after the disease peak.
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You can see in the brown curve, a peak occurring about October, no substantial quantity
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of vaccine was really in the market until probably getting towards December.
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So that's not what you want.
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In fact, there is an estimate from Boris et al published in EID emerging infectious diseases
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that for every week of acceleration vaccine supply in the US, and this is US centric because
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that's where the statistics are, would have been an additional 300,000 to 430,000 US cases.
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So while in research, you may think in terms of years, in terms of outbreak and pandemic
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response, you have to think in terms of days.
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And so here, I think it's important to point out that they really are talking in what I
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considered to be at least an honest broker way.
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What they're arguing is is that if they don't get the vaccine done till here and the peak
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of the epidemic is here, then they're not really saving very many people with this vaccine.
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And so ideally, we'd be able to make the vaccine back here and then avoid this peak.
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So the assumption is, is that if they had gotten this vaccine into these people that
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died or whatever, I guess number of cases per week.
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So these cases could have been prevented if they'd gotten the vaccine here earlier.
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And that's a, that's a pretty bold statement.
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But it's an easy statement to make because according to the scheme that they currently
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run, they never have the vaccine ready for the peak.
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And so there's no peak to avoid.
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And they can just say, well, yeah, look, there's no more flu anymore.
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Do you see what I'm saying?
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It's a little, it's nice to make this argument, but in making this argument, what they are
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admitting is that what they do is worthless.
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And in fact, no matter how often they do it, they're always behind.
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And so it can't really help.
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It might, it might as well leave it.
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But then you're not going to make these products.
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You're not going to make any money.
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You're not going to have this warm base of manufacturing as Robert Malone described it
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ready and waiting for when the really big one comes, which is what the argument is.
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That also Robert F Kennedy Jr. so eloquently explained on his own podcast when I was there.
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So they all have this idea that there is a worst case scenario and we do need to be
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prepared for it.
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And that's legitimate.
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Robert Malone has been saying that for many years now.
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Robert F Kennedy Jr. will say that Tony Fauci has said that David Holness said that
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Cina Bavaria said that they all say that and they all say that vaccines come too late.
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And so this is the exact same story.
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Now what I want you to make note of is that the same blog that put out the video that
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we watched last night that I said was, well, it's okay, it's a little, it's nice.
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But what it showed to me was that Berwick was really in earnest working on the biological
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potential for good that this coronavirus signal represented to him rather than working on
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gain a function dual research kind of crap.
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That wasn't even in that story.
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Now interestingly, that was from 2007 and now that will blog, the same blog that's written
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with, is his name, Leak, and then also with Dr. McCulloch has put up a more recent video
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from 2018, which we've watched before, which is Ralph Barrett giving another talk about
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chimeric coronavirus, but very, very dubiously starting with a 10 minute or 15 minute lecture
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about planet wide catastrophes and how often they occur, everything from Carrington events
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to tidal waves and super volcanoes.
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And then of course he's trying to put pandemics into that category of super cataclysmic events
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equivalent to a meteor strike or a solar windstorm, a pole reversal or a pandemic.
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So that's a pretty huge change in sales pitch from the 2007, which was, you know,
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I work on SARS viruses, SARS went around last year and we're working on trying to understand
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it.
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Here we go.
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Instead, he had this 10 or 15 minute pitch about all the worst case scenarios on the planet
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in order to frame his research has aimed precisely at one of these worst case scenario targets.
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It's extraordinary.
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And so this is 2016 and I would go so far as to say, I don't hear it here yet either.
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But that we haven't watched the whole six hours of videos or anything like that.
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So this is really about responding to a pandemic.
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So I'll let it run again.
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I apologize.
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I just thought I would point that out that that that video is also there, but I chose
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not to watch it because I'm not, I'm not convinced that that's the real Ralph Barrett.
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I'm not convinced that the real Ralph Barrett would open his talk with a 15 minute introduction
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into, you know, really, he was kind of, he was kind of speculating about some of these
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things.
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You know, he doesn't know how how devastating a meteor would be or how the geotechnics works
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after a meteor strike.
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I mean, what's he talking about?
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But he did.
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I mean, if I was a neuroscientist, I would never start with that.
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Even if I worked on pre-on disease and thought that pre-on disease could wipe out the planet
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like some people do, I wouldn't start my talk with, well, there are Carington events and
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big meteors and pole reversals and tidal waves and, and, and then my stuff, pre-ons.
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I mean, that's just crazy anyway.
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Here we go.
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Next slide.
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All in response to that in 2009 event, we worked with the synthetic genomics vaccines
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Inc.
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One of Craig Viner's organizations and BARDA, part of the U.S. government.
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BARDA and the synthetic vaccine or synthetic genome, what did he say?
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So they're basically synthesizing, look, they're assembling oligos into flu gene segments
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enzymatically, rescuing flu viruses, they're designing and synthesizing.
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So they're doing, what I'm talking about, they're manufacturing viruses and they're
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making viral stocks using recombinant DNA and RNA technology in order to create viral
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stocks that are more homogenous than can be made with traditional culturing methods.
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That's my argument.
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It's not that I know the fine details.
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It's just that I know this is fundamental.
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It is a fundamental mythology of all RNA virology.
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That's what it is.
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And so here you hear him kind of talking around the fact that they are making synthetic clones
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of flu viruses.
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I'm going to back it up for a couple.
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Come up with the scenes, so while in research you may think in terms of years, in terms
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of outbreak and pandemic response, you have to think in terms of days.
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Next slide.
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In response to that in 2009 event, we worked with the Synthetic Genomics Vaccines Inc.,
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one of Craig Vintner's organizations, and Bardev, I'm sorry, who Craig Vintner?
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Craig Vintner's organizations?
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I didn't hear that.
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Did I hear that correctly?
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Is that what he said?
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Hold on.
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Whoa.
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Whoa.
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Ah.
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In response to that in 2009 event, we worked with the Synthetic Genomics Vaccines Inc.,
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one of Craig Vintner's organizations, and Bardev, part of the U.S. government, to come
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up with the Citizen Inc. 2009 event, we worked with the Synthetic Genomics Vaccines Inc.,
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one of Craig Vintner's organizations, and Bardev, part of the U.S. government, to come
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up with the system to make vaccine viruses much faster.
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We synthesize the genes based on sequence available, the synthetic Genomics Vaccines
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Inc., one of Craig Vintner's organizations, and Bardev, the U.S. government, to come up
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with a system to make vaccine viruses much faster.
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We synthesize the genes based on sequence available, basically, on the web, and we use
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those to generate the viruses that we would use to make a vaccine.
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Did you hear what he just said?
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The system was based on genes that were synthesized from sequences found on the web.
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I mean, we synthesize the genes based on sequence available, basically, on the web,
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and we use those to generate the viruses that we would use to make a vaccine.
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We use those to generate the viruses.
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We use those to generate the viruses.
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So I think what you're missing here, and I think this is what Kevin and everybody on
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that side wants us to miss, is that packaging viruses is just transfecting things.
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That's what they do when they are transfected with these genomes.
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They make exosomes.
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They package stuff up.
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Sometimes the whole genome gets out, sometimes some garbage RNA from these subgenomic gets
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packaged.
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It doesn't matter because in the end, they're looking for a collective signal.
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If you...
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Do I have that on?
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Yeah.
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If you look at how they sequence something and you see, okay, here's the whole genome.
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And then when they do a sequencing reaction, and you'll see this in any paper that you
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look at, including the one where they sequence the first SARS genome, they'll have all kinds
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of fragments.
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And I get it.
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They overlap.
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And so when they overlap, then you can have all these sequences.
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In some places, they'll have lots of coverage, like here, when the end protein, they'll have
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lots of coverage of the end, very small coverage here, and maybe there's more coverage
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on this end of the genome, something like that, but they're all little tiny fragments.
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And then what they're doing is they're taking an average here.
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So here, they get this base a lot, right?
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So then they assume that this is a really good read.
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And then over here, this would be a really low read.
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And so they might have also a graph over here that looks like a confidence interval, and
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it'll get lower over here.
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And then they'll say that they're really sure about this part of the genome, and not
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so sure about this part of the genome.
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But then they'll still tell you that this is the sequence of the virus.
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They'll still tell you that this is the sequence of the virus, and this is the clone RNA that
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they will make with a coronavirus.
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And with flu, it's a bit more difficult because with flu, I believe there are eight segments
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of the genome that are thought to be circular and need to be regulated and copied separately.
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And so with flu virus, it's a little more complicated.
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And they're also flu viruses, um, bring their RNA into the nucleus, which is also really
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interesting because I don't think the coronaviruses do anything with the nucleus.
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So that's also a big difference between coronavirus and flu virus, but it's important to understand
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that what Dortmer at Mercer, or whatever his name is saying here, is that they worked
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with a company called Synthetic Genomics Vaccines, Incorporated.
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And that's with Venner.
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I might know if I'm spelling his name right, Craig Venner is the guy who wanted to build
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a whole database of full human genomes and then sell it back to the pharmaceutical companies.
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And so you could give him your, or he would sequence your whole genome for like $3,000
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and then also use that as data that he could then, as a database sell back to, he's a really
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creepy dude.
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And he has been in really a trans human activist for a very, very long time.
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I have no doubt in my mind that anybody that worked on the Human Genome Project would have
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met Craig Venner at some point.
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Anyway, the BARDA partnered up with Novartis and with this company from Venner to synthesize
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the genes and make the viruses that they were going to make in the vaccines.
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And so, yeah, let's go back and see if we can keep this going.
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In theory, it would take about four and a half days.
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In fact, we had a test in which we did.
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In four and a half days, we went from genes being transmitted to us to a vaccine virus.
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Next slide.
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And we had a chance to be in three and a half days.
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In fact, make a vaccine is much faster.
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We synthesize the genes based on sequence available, basically on the web.
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And we use those to generate the viruses that we would use to make a vaccine.
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In theory, it would take about four and a half days.
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In fact, we went from four and a half days.
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In four and a half days, we went from genes being transmitted to us to a vaccine virus.
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Next slide.
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And we had a chance to actually implement that.
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In 2013, we went on April 1, Easter.
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We got a call saying that, in fact, there was this new H7N9 strain out in China, had
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caused fatalities.
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The Chinese CDC in a very far-thinking move put the sequence out on the web.
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By Monday, the genes were being synthesized, the gene synthesis in California completed
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by Tuesday.
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The genes synthesized, received in California for viral rescue on Wednesday and sent to
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the Centers for Disease Control for their response as well.
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By Saturday, we had the vaccine virus confirmed at any by the start of the next week.
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It was really fast.
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And then the next part starts.
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Next slide.
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All that activity is at the very beginning of that timeline you see there.
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This is the timeline from that same starting point when the sequences were posted on the
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web to where we started inoculating our first large-scale fermenter to make clinical trial
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material.
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It took months.
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It was not the science.
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It was, predominantly, the regulation.
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We couldn't do the work in the United States.
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Why?
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We couldn't get a USDA permit out of concerns at this virus, which actually doesn't cause
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disease and chickens might infect chickens.
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We had a lot of other issues as well.
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So we actually ended up doing this work primarily in Germany and then taking the vaccine back
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to the United States so that we could actually do the clinical trial.
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Germany is an interesting place to do it now, isn't it?
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Germany has not been on the sidelines of this pandemic narrative, not on the sidelines of
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the Western world's pandemic response in pandemic theater.
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Germany has been very high up there with regard to the games.
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Very high up there, sitting at the table very early.
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I find that very curious looking back from this perspective.
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Next slide.
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So why am I bringing all this stuff up and what's the relationship to gain a function
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research?
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In fact, there are little lessons scattered throughout this story.
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First, in those initial days when we got the sequence, did we use sequence motif data
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to guide what we were going to do to actually make a vaccine?
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The answer is yes.
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Now we certainly didn't use the transmissibility data because there is non-forage 7 and 9
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and those data are complicated and at this point difficult to apply.
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But we did certainly look for a polybassy cleavage site and had there been one, we would have
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gotten rid of it.
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So there's a mention of a polybassy cleavage site and I do believe it is this actual talk
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oftentimes that is referenced by Charles Rixi as them admitting that fear and cleavage
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site is dangerous and that if they have it in a vaccine they remove it and this is some
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kind of big deal.
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I don't really think it is.
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It might make some for some reason or another, it might make the vaccine virus more toxic
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or more infectious or more difficult to attenuate or it might make it too immunogenic.
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I don't know but I don't think that it's some kind of up fear and cleavage site.
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Now it's a pandemic like a Carrington event.
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So be careful with that but it is here and he's going to say it again in a second.
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We also looked in the neuraminidase gene for markers of oseltamivir resistance and some
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of them we found them and we either did not synthesize those strains or we mutated those
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genes to eliminate the oseltamivir resistance in the vaccine strains that we made.
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So we did use genetic markers for phenotypic traits to affect what we actually made as
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the vaccine.
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Now the fact that in this case we're really slowed by very well intentioned regulations
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to protect basically the food supply in the United States.
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However that really meant that we could not in a timely way make the vaccine in the United
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States.
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Now no one who passed those regulations and forced them had the intention we're going
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to slow down human vaccine development however that was the effect.
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Had that been a high pathogenetic avian influenza strain we couldn't have done any
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of this work.
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Why?
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Regulations passed for the very good reasons they want to prevent people who have ill
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intention from doing bad things with the viruses basically select agent or regulations.
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What it meant we couldn't have synthesized this virus.
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Now you can't really put an entire manufacturing facility under select agent conditions and
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still have a factory that can produce seasonal vaccines in an economically competitive way.
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As a result we would have had to wait probably months to start the work, at least a month
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maybe more to start the work.
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Had it been a more severe strain had that poly basic cleavage site actually been present
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instead of absent.
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Again nobody who passed the select agent regulations that my goal is to endanger Americans and
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prevent the vaccines coming forward in a timely way.
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Is that the effect?
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Well we haven't had one of those yet but I can tell you from my company I couldn't do
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any of this technology if it were a high pathogenetic avian strain clearly counterproductive.
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If it were a high pathogen that would be solid.
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Thank you very much.
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Hey.
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Thank you.
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Thank you baby.
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Alright I got a little warm brownie and some coffee here.
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I wanted to say something about this.
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What did I want to say?
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What he's what he's explaining here is that the flu vaccine if it were to be aimed or
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be required to be aimed at a flu that had a poly basic cleavage site in it they would
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not be able to engineer that poly basic cleavage site into the vaccine strain because it wouldn't
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be allowed.
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So isn't that a strange isn't I really think we're hearing that correctly and I find that
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a very strange attitude because I thought that having a the poly basic cleavage site there
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would be terrible and that's why they would take it out.
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But what he's saying is that if they needed to put it in because a vaccine against a strain
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with a poly basic cleavage site was needed they wouldn't be able to do it and that would
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be a severe handicap to responding to a particularly virulent flu.
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I really think that's what we're hearing here which is really very very interesting.
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It's exactly wow that's that's funny 300,000 who pass the select agent regulations that
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my goal is to endanger Americans and prevent the vaccines coming forward in a timely way.
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Is that the effect?
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Well we haven't had one of those yet but I can tell you from my company I couldn't do
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any I couldn't apply any of this technology if it were a high pathogenicity, avian strain
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clearly counterproductive.
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If we were a high path even outbreak you saw there was 300,000 to 430,000 infections per
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week are prevented by every week of acceleration of vaccine supply if you got a 10 percent.
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Now that's a model right he's modeled if we got the vaccine out earlier than we could
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project that we would save this many lives that assumes probably a 100 percent of activity
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I mean it's our effectiveness of the vaccine it's really scary how he's talking right here
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because it's it's in a room full of virologists that are all buying into this as being pretty
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much okay when it's really just a lot of it's a lot of big talk that's it oh it's warm
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sweet.
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And to 50 percent mortality rate you can project that to the number of US deaths that would
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occur and you can extrapolate that to the rest of the world.
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So when I look at the gain of function debate I have a lot of sympathy for the notion that
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we there are certain experiments that are very very dangerous to do.
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I also know from a really practical pragmatic experience of trying to get vaccines out in
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real time that very well intentioned regulation has unintended consequences that can be quite
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severe.
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So if adaptation of vaccine viruses to increase growth in HA yield or the more modern synthetic
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equivalents of doing that in manufacturing when it captured by gain of function regulations
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or other precautions additional unintended impediments to the timely vaccine supply could
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be created.
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And I'll stop there.
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Okay thank you.
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Our next speaker is Ralph Berwick from University of North Carolina kind of the first slide.
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I'd like to start off by saying that no approved vaccines are therapeutics for SARS or MERS
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Coronavirus and we are currently in midst of an ongoing outbreak with about 950 cases
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and a 40 percent mortality rate.
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Next slide.
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I really want to focus on two stories one is how restrictions are reduced public health
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preparedness to respond to future SARS outbreaks and then I want to talk about how restrictions
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in animal model development will influence vaccine outcomes specifically noting the example
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of the vaccine it is to immune pathology associated with the SARS vaccine.
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And in the process I want to sort of debunk the idea that there are safe and alternative
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experiment approaches sometimes they give the wrong answers next slide.
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Whoa.
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Two stories.
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Restrictions will reduce public health preparedness.
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This is restrictions on gain of function.
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Functions on animal model development increases risk of vaccine induced immune pathology
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and mortality in human populations.
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So he thinks that he can save vaccine injuries by first using animal models to develop them.
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And finally he wants to debunk the concept that ethical and safe alternative experimental
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approaches exist that provide equivalent information is gain of function studies.
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That's cool.
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Everyone's here.
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So during the SARS outbreak of 2002, 2004 there are 8,000 cases and a 10 percent mortality
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rate and the original vaccine target included CIVIT and human strains that are about 99 percent
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identical and they're shown here on this sort of phylogenetic tree.
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Next slide.
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Since 2004 there's been no cases of SARS.
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Most of them think the viruses extinct in the wild.
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But as metagenomic sequencing has been applied, it's fairly clear that there are a large
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pool of related bad coronaviruses with 5 to 30 percent sequence difference in the spike
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like a protein which are shown right here.
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And there's been recognition in the field that vaccines and therapeutics not only need
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to target the epidemic strains, but they also have to be prepared to deal with pre-pandemic
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strains that might emerge in the future.
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And so the central question is are there other SARS-like strains that have pre-pandemic
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potential?
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And if so, we'll have vaccines and drugs.
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Here it's called pre-pandemic potential and it sounds like they dropped that P at some
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point.
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Let's work.
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Next slide.
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So we and others have synthesized the spikes of these genes shown here with the red arrows
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and then applied two different assays to ask questions about the pre-pandemic potential.
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Next slide.
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The first is using pseudotypes and so this is a safe ethical alternative approach that
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basically coats the virus and the spike and then you can ask whether any of these bad
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coronaviruses can use the humanase-2 receptor for entry.
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And if you look at the top part of that panel, you can see that the WIV-1 and the SARS coronavirus.
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I like how ethical alternative up there is in quotes, that's pretty funny.
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So you make a pseudovirus, I think they actually make pseudoviruses of the HIV virus or something
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which is comically ethical.
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I don't think that that's dangerous.
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I'm just saying how it appears to the lay person, it doesn't read better, that's for
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sure.
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Our strains both can use the humanase-2 receptor.
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WIV-1 is a bad coronavirus.
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It encodes three of the five contact interface sites that engage the ACE receptor so the
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data makes perfect sense.
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The other bad strains have much more variation and so it makes sense that they can't use
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the ACE-2 receptor.
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When you make chimeric viruses that encode these spike like a protein, this is part of
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the virus particle, notice that the SHCO-1-4 strain can now replicate efficiently in cells
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expressing the humanase-2 receptor.
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These data clearly indicate that pseudotypes and structure guided predictions, in which
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this case SHCO-1-4 contains the SHCO-1-4 strain can now...
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So this is the strain that he supposedly engineered to be lethal in mice.
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This is the lethal mouse strain.
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I think there's a paper about him doing this in B-L-B, bulb in a B-A-L-B mice and this
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is the strain here.
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And I believe that after that they took this and they...
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Yeah I can't remember anymore but this is definitely one of those that they played around
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with, that they got the idea, they got the spike from Wuhan and then they put it.
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They only had the spike.
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See is the chimeric virus recombinant virus and remember that a lot of these are incomplete
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sequences.
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So here's where it becomes very interesting.
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Let me just give you this little tidbit to think about.
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And we're just going to keep doing our work, we're not paying attention to these other
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clown cars behind us, we're in the cave all by ourselves here, because we're caverns
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ahead of these people.
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If you realize that when they sequence a virus in cell culture, they sequence a virus
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from a bronchial lavage that they get amplicons that sort like this hundreds and hundreds
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of them that are short amplicons over the 30,000 foot genome, 30,000 nucleotide genome.
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And so they never...
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They don't get full reads by any stretch of the imagination.
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When you're doing Sanger sequencing it could be between 300 and 1,000, maybe Kevin can
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correct me but it's not thousands.
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And indeed they need overlap on these amplicons so that they get multiple reads.
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And so these are amplified by PCR and the reason why they get more copies of some than
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the other ones is because these are more abundant and therefore they start amplifying earlier.
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That's the assumption that these people make and I don't think it's a terrible assumption.
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But then when they get a partial sequence, now this is the trick, if they get a partial
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sequence in the wild, the normal hot signal that you see here has just cut off at some
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arbitrary number where they don't have any coverage at these places.
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And so where you don't have coverage like here and from here to here and from here to
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here, then you're just missing those genomes.
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You're just missing that part of the genome.
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And with respect to the paper that he's talking about with this SHCO14S, he is assuming that
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because he has found in the wild a new coronavirus spike protein sequence, that that means that
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the entire coronavirus is a new one.
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It doesn't mean that it's part of a swarm, some of which have this spike protein.
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But he's assuming is that it's a whole new instance of this signal.
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And that's where they get all of these, these family trees and phylogenies from is that
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every time they find a new unique RNA signal for any of these 31 genes, it is very easy
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for them to say, wow, we found a new one.
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And assume again that just because it's so hard to find these, so hard to find these
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signals very robustly in nature and it's very hard to culture them because often time
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you only get a sample right here.
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You don't get any of these full genomes, they're rare.
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And so you can see what would happen if you started by transfecting or by losing or by
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creating your virus stock from a genomic RNA that was pure.
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Because then all of the clouds of incomplete genomes and subgenomic RNAs will start from
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a common ancestor.
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That's a very different scenario than a viral swarm that you would get from mother nature
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and a very much more infectious one.
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You can even imagine where it would decay exponentially from the first clone in clone
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transfection to maybe even a couple family members as that person shed self replicating
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full transcript RNAs.
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But the point to remember here is that when what they're talking about with regard to
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this paper is a sequence that the Wuhan lab found that was actually just a partial sequence
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that they found in the wild and they guessed that it looks like it's related, it looks
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like it's a SARS virus.
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And so with his technology, they were able to resurrect a laboratory version of it using
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a consensus coronavirus genome plus that spike.
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And that's where they got crazy with it.
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And that's where everybody went bananas in that 2015 paper.
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So here we go.
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They replicate efficiently in cells expressing the human ACE2 receptor.
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These data clearly indicate that pseudotypes and structure guided predictions in which
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this case, SHCl1.4 contains no conserved residues at the interface with any other known strain
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would have actually predicted the potential threat.
01:02:47.500 --> 01:02:51.420
It was actually a chimeric gain-of-function virus that did.
01:02:51.420 --> 01:02:57.700
And the SHCl1.4 and the WIV viruses grow equivalently to SARS and human airway epithelial cells.
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So there's no real gain of function in that phenotype.
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Next slide.
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If you look at virulence, these two bat SARS-like coronaviruses are attenuated.
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So you lose function.
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Vaccines, especially in the age models, do not protect against infection with these viruses.
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And there are four broadly cross-neutralizing human monoclonal antibodies that have been
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identified that neutralize all SARS and CIVIT strains.
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And none of them actually work against the SHCl1.4 virus.
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So what I hear here, and I hope you hear it here, is that he's making the argument that
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some of these viruses have no solution.
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And a live attenuated virus vaccine does not protect the animals.
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And a cocktail of monoclonal antibodies, like he described in 2007, very clear competitor
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intellectually, if you will, for the Z map product that was in Plumber's lab in Canada
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with that Chinese lady whose name I can't remember, but I'm sure Mark Koolack knows
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right off the top of his head.
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The point being here now, again, we're discussing the worst case scenario without actually saying
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it out loud.
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Because, again, we have something that vaccines won't work for, and a monoclonal antibody
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cocktail won't work for.
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And it's lethal.
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So human monoclonal antibodies that exist on a shelf will fail.
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We have no information on the transmissibility of these isolates.
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Next slide.
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So if you look at this phylogenetic tree, they fall into two clusters, that cluster with
01:04:33.380 --> 01:04:40.100
high risk strains, some of which, WIV1 and SHCl1.4, which actually are representative of about
01:04:40.100 --> 01:04:43.180
12 to 15 viruses, different viruses each.
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Yes, that lady, Jeff.
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There are no vaccines at therapeutics that will really work well against them, and so we're vulnerable.
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And I also want to mention that many of the chimeric viruses here, the definition implied
01:04:53.980 --> 01:04:58.220
in gain of function, is much too broad and must be redefined.
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Next slide.
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There are some public health implications to this research.
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On equivalently, it establishes that there are SARS-like viruses that are pre-positioned
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to jump and use human receptors and normal targets for infection, and so they have pre-pandemic
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potential.
01:05:16.300 --> 01:05:20.900
The results are generalizable to other coronaviruses and other zoonotic viruses, and there's a
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platform framework that you can use to tease those associations apart.
01:05:25.260 --> 01:05:30.380
And you can inform policymakers in terms of SARS-like outbreaks are possible and likely
01:05:30.380 --> 01:05:35.940
in the future, and that existing therapeutics and vaccines most likely will fail, and so
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we're unprepared.
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And advantage is that we have reagents now to derive effective interventions.
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Next slide.
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The second part I want to mention is the importance of animal model development in
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vaccine design.
01:05:49.020 --> 01:05:52.580
SARS replicates very poorly in mice.
01:05:52.580 --> 01:05:56.340
There's no weight loss or clinical disease and very little pathology.
01:05:56.340 --> 01:06:00.260
This is because the virus poorly engages the mouse ACE2 receptor.
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It doesn't use it very well.
01:06:02.540 --> 01:06:06.860
Every vaccine that I know of that's been tested in this replication model works.
01:06:06.860 --> 01:06:11.140
And then Kanta and her group at NIH developed some mouse-adapted strains, which have six
01:06:11.140 --> 01:06:16.100
to ten mutations that enhance the usage of the mouse ACE2 receptor.
01:06:16.100 --> 01:06:18.020
Next slide.
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This results in models that capture most of the human disease phenotypes, which are shown
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in yellow.
01:06:24.300 --> 01:06:30.900
And so I can't stress how it important it is to see what they are doing here is by establishing
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animal models, then they are going directly against that old adage that Robert Malone
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introduced us to or reminded us of way back when, which is mice lie, monkeys deceive
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and the only way to know the truth is humans.
01:06:51.380 --> 01:06:59.500
And in this scenario, what we are doing is setting ourselves up for a disaster by funding
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grant calls or rather writing grant calls and funding research proposals that look for
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development of animal models of disease.
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Animal models of disease being wholly inappropriate for studying viral replication, viral disease
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in humans.
01:07:18.100 --> 01:07:24.060
Because of the way that they do it, they use clones, they start with pure stocks and they
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apply it in crazy ways.
01:07:26.940 --> 01:07:31.660
Like really high concentrations in the nose or even worse, they inject it in the brain
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or somewhere in the heart muscle or in the interperitoneal cavity.
01:07:39.140 --> 01:07:45.020
And so these animal models are part of the voodoo part of the enchantment that has been
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cast on academia because he just said it in the previous slide that that unequivocally
01:07:55.820 --> 01:08:02.580
established that some natural SARS-like coronavirus strains are pre-pandemic potential.
01:08:02.580 --> 01:08:04.140
Unequivocally established.
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Now how is that any different than what I was saying right here with this early, but
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I want is that we're seeding the gain of function narrative with scientific programs
01:08:17.620 --> 01:08:24.540
in peer reviewed publications for years before the pandemic that what unequivocally, unequivocally
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established that some natural SARS-like coronavirus bad strains represent pre-pandemic potential.
01:08:31.540 --> 01:08:35.900
It's done, case closed.
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And now we need this warm base of manufacturing forever.
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Now we need to fund these programs forever.
01:08:40.620 --> 01:08:42.580
Now you can't argue anymore.
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You see what his job was?
01:08:47.860 --> 01:08:51.460
That's why they're throwing him under the bus now because that's what his job was.
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His job was established the worst case scenario and do your own thing alongside.
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And so he argued for what he thought was the legitimate best way.
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Had live attenuated viruses working on molecular solutions to de attenuation.
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These are all laudable pursuits.
01:09:11.340 --> 01:09:14.300
This is not the Scooby-Doo villain that we're looking for.
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Was he involved?
01:09:15.300 --> 01:09:16.860
Does he know who they are?
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I'm with almost without a doubt, he does.
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But the relentless focus on this man by people on social media, by people on the intellectual
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dark web, by people writing books is a mistake.
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It's a mistake because he's not JS Bach of coronaviruses because he used restriction
01:09:44.900 --> 01:09:47.900
enzymes to build a long DNA molecule.
01:09:47.900 --> 01:09:52.540
I mean, building a long DNA molecule with restriction enzymes was something that had
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already been done.
01:09:53.860 --> 01:10:00.820
Maybe not as long as a coronavirus genome, maybe.
01:10:00.820 --> 01:10:06.980
But it's not some kind of, you know, it's like adding a trailer to a semi-truck, you
01:10:06.980 --> 01:10:10.340
know, hey, you know what, you could hook up another trailer to the back of that.
01:10:10.340 --> 01:10:11.340
Really?
01:10:11.340 --> 01:10:12.340
I never thought about that.
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Holy cow.
01:10:13.340 --> 01:10:14.340
Does it work?
01:10:14.420 --> 01:10:15.420
You can hook another one up.
01:10:15.420 --> 01:10:16.420
Oh, wow.
01:10:16.420 --> 01:10:19.940
They call that a train.
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And so for this guy to be held up as some, you know, virtuoso, because he came up with
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the idea of using restriction enzymes to make a long DNA molecule, it's just ridiculous.
01:10:38.660 --> 01:10:40.380
But that's what they want, right?
01:10:40.380 --> 01:10:41.380
That's where we are.
01:10:41.380 --> 01:10:42.380
That's what they want.
01:10:42.380 --> 01:10:43.380
Rob's capyptor.
01:10:43.380 --> 01:10:45.580
It doesn't use it very well.
01:10:45.580 --> 01:10:49.900
Every vaccine that I know of that's been tested in this replication model works.
01:10:49.900 --> 01:10:54.180
And then Kanta and her group at NIH developed some mouse-adapted strains, which have six
01:10:54.180 --> 01:10:59.220
to ten mutations that enhance the usage of the mouse ACE2 receptor.
01:10:59.220 --> 01:11:00.220
Next slide.
01:11:00.220 --> 01:11:05.940
This results in models that capture most of the human disease phenotypes, which are shown
01:11:05.940 --> 01:11:06.940
in yellow.
01:11:06.940 --> 01:11:09.940
And a continual theme from these studies in terms of vaccines is that the Envivo core
01:11:09.940 --> 01:11:12.940
list of protection vary depending on the model.
01:11:12.940 --> 01:11:13.940
Next slide.
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Corillis of protection.
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The immediate vaccine was developed, purchased by NIH early in the epidemic.
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It protected mice and primates in a replication model.
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So what happens, although they did notice low levels of eosinophils in the animals, what
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happens after the lethal challenge strain is used?
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The vaccine fails to protect in the elderly, and it induces a TH2 immune pathology with
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a large number of eosinophils shown here by the column sort of in the middle, with all
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the blue cells surrounding the airways and the vesicles.
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And you can see that the number of eosinophils increased tenfold as a consequence of challenge.
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This is not a good thing.
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But it is an inbred model.
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What about outbred models?
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Next slide.
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So that's very similar to the paper that we looked at on the bike, actually, already
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in 2020, where they inoculated macaque monkeys and then exposed them to the virus, and they
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had a much more severe reaction to the virus, destroyed their lungs.
01:12:01.900 --> 01:12:03.780
This is exactly what he's describing here.
01:12:03.780 --> 01:12:09.020
It's very difficult to vaccinate against a coronavirus because inevitably what you've
01:12:09.020 --> 01:12:16.380
done is screw up the memory to the coronavirus and make your immune system prone to overreact
01:12:16.380 --> 01:12:18.780
to what it actually tries to ignore.
01:12:18.780 --> 01:12:21.140
It's actually pretty spectacular.
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So we use the collaborative cross mouse resource, which encodes the three substrains of mice.
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We took the eight founder lines and made 64 F1 dialyol combinations.
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We aged them for a year, vaccinated half of them, and then challenged the virus.
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This is about 2,400 mice total in this experiment.
01:12:35.660 --> 01:12:36.660
Next slide.
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When you look at the results in yellow, it means that the vaccine protected from lethal
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infection.
01:12:41.260 --> 01:12:45.860
Green is the vaccine protected either from lethal infection or pathology or disease.
01:12:45.860 --> 01:12:49.700
Black means that the vaccine really had little impact, and red means that the vaccine resulted
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in increased immune pathology and mortality in the animals.
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So in this case, in an outbred population, the prediction would be that that vaccine would
01:12:55.020 --> 01:12:57.860
have caused increased mortality in some individuals.
01:12:57.860 --> 01:13:00.940
This is seen with other vaccine formulations for SARS, this TH2 immune pathology.
01:13:00.940 --> 01:13:07.140
It demonstrates quite clearly the importance of animal model development in evaluating
01:13:07.140 --> 01:13:09.420
vaccine and drug performance.
01:13:09.420 --> 01:13:10.420
Last slide.
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Now in that sense, I agree with them.
01:13:12.420 --> 01:13:18.700
If the mice can already uncover massive failure of the vaccine product, then that's great.
01:13:18.700 --> 01:13:21.980
But if they would have survived, it wouldn't necessarily prove that it's going to work
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in humans.
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The pathology could have still developed in humans, or it could have been less obvious
01:13:27.900 --> 01:13:29.700
in the mice, et cetera.
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Remember, these mouse studies are always going to be ended early because they need to sacrifice
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the mouse in order to look at the tissue that they show those pictures of.
01:13:38.420 --> 01:13:45.100
So if the mouse model at six weeks would have shown no problems after re-infection or challenge,
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that wouldn't necessarily have proved definitively there wasn't going to be autoimmunity in the
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future.
01:13:49.820 --> 01:13:51.700
So that's another key thing to keep in mind.
01:13:51.700 --> 01:13:53.940
But where are we with MERS?
01:13:53.940 --> 01:13:57.220
MERS was not replicated mice or in any small animals, and vivo passage has failed in multiple
01:13:57.220 --> 01:13:58.220
laboratories.
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We'll talk about the reason for that tomorrow.
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Transgenic mice have been developed, expressing the human DPP4 receptor.
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This results in a replication model without serious disease.
01:14:05.980 --> 01:14:09.300
Passage of virus has been done in two laboratories, both of which, to our surprise, was halted
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in the midst of an ongoing epidemic.
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And so in our opinion, the public health vaccine development has been compromised by this decision.
01:14:15.540 --> 01:14:18.180
Without a robust small animal models, the testings of vaccines and drugs have been delayed
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and there's a backlog.
01:14:19.180 --> 01:14:21.820
So I think it's critical that MERS coronavirus restrictions be lifted immediately, at least
01:14:21.820 --> 01:14:23.380
in terms of animal model development.
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Last slide.
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So I'd just like to summarize where in dangerous times, there's four highly pathogenic viruses
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sort of sampling the human population.
01:14:28.940 --> 01:14:32.420
International travel allows for instantaneous, almost worldwide dissemination, and it's only
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going to get faster.
01:14:33.420 --> 01:14:36.860
And the response times, which are so critical for treating human disease, are being compressed.
01:14:36.860 --> 01:14:41.140
And being a function represents one of those approaches that is a crucial tool for public
01:14:41.140 --> 01:14:42.740
health preparedness and response.
01:14:42.740 --> 01:14:50.940
So that's an interesting place for Ralph Berwick to be when, again, and I think this is really
01:14:50.940 --> 01:14:55.460
important to see, where is it here?
01:14:55.460 --> 01:14:56.460
Is it here?
01:14:56.460 --> 01:14:57.460
Come on now.
01:14:57.460 --> 01:14:58.460
What the heck?
01:14:58.460 --> 01:14:59.460
I had it all queued up now.
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I don't see it tonight.
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Oh, yeah, here.
01:15:01.460 --> 01:15:02.460
Sorry, got it.
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Got it.
01:15:03.460 --> 01:15:04.460
Got it.
01:15:04.460 --> 01:15:05.460
Let's just watch this one really quick.
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Okay.
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And then I'm only going to watch the beginning and then I'm going to hang out because I got
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to go to my son's basketball game.
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Check this out.
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Thank you, Andy.
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Just listen to the beginning of this because the beginning is hysterical.
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That was really nice.
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As an now person, I really admire at the school.
01:15:27.660 --> 01:15:28.660
Ralph Berwick.
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He's the most accomplished and prolific scientist anywhere and he's really brought tremendous
01:15:33.260 --> 01:15:37.260
creativity, persistence, and innovation to the study of viruses.
01:15:37.260 --> 01:15:40.820
I've had the opportunity to tour his lab.
01:15:40.820 --> 01:15:47.060
So we watched the 2007 video yesterday and then we just watched the 2016 video and now
01:15:47.060 --> 01:15:50.980
we're going to watch him talk two years later.
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Okay.
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And microbiology and immunology.
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Two years later.
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No.
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The NIN.
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How bad could the next pandemic be?
01:16:01.620 --> 01:16:02.620
What might it look like?
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And will we be ready?
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Well, I have to admit, I'm a little worried about giving this talk partially because as
01:16:08.620 --> 01:16:11.460
Yogi Barris said, it's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.
01:16:11.460 --> 01:16:13.540
So there's a good chance I could be wrong.
01:16:13.540 --> 01:16:19.100
I study coronaviruses, noroviruses, flaviviruses, and do some influenza virus research just to
01:16:19.100 --> 01:16:20.940
give you some background of what I do.
01:16:20.940 --> 01:16:25.820
The other reason that I'm a little bit worried is being labeled as a harbinger of doom.
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This is not me.
01:16:26.820 --> 01:16:29.500
I'm not one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
01:16:29.500 --> 01:16:32.060
So he's choosing to do this, right?
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Or is he implying that someone else is making him give this talk from this perspective as
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one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, the plague?
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It's a very curious talk to me because it is not a typical scientific talk.
01:16:48.100 --> 01:16:55.060
The typical lecture from a biologist has a 30,000 foot view directly over the target
01:16:55.060 --> 01:16:57.500
and then you zoom in.
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You don't start from the, you know, wow, I mean, from worst case scenario.
01:17:04.780 --> 01:17:10.180
Even if you think that Alzheimer's disease is really important or you think that autism
01:17:10.180 --> 01:17:17.580
is a really devastating disease, you don't start with worst case scenario.
01:17:17.580 --> 01:17:20.260
And yet here he is, and it's extraordinary.
01:17:20.260 --> 01:17:22.980
And I want you to let you know that I'm really kind of a nice guy.
01:17:22.980 --> 01:17:26.340
So please come talk to me after this talk.
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I will mention that viruses are certainly in the pockets of all of the four horsemen and
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they can be used in all of these scenarios.
01:17:33.340 --> 01:17:36.820
So I'd like to start off by taking a step back and talk about how infectious diseases
01:17:36.820 --> 01:17:41.900
ranks or stacks up against other natural disasters that in terms of frequency and relative risk.
01:17:41.900 --> 01:17:46.140
So if you step back and every three to 400 million years or so, there's a danger of
01:17:46.140 --> 01:17:47.660
a gamma radiation burst.
01:17:47.660 --> 01:17:50.340
These occur when black holes and neutron stars collide.
01:17:50.340 --> 01:17:53.980
It shoots out this burst of gamma radiation which can strip away the ozone layer.
01:17:53.980 --> 01:17:57.660
It's acid rain, resulting high UV radiation levels to plant an animal life on the planet
01:17:57.660 --> 01:17:59.180
and will result in global warming.
01:17:59.180 --> 01:18:02.420
And this can occur as far as 6,500 light years away.
01:18:02.420 --> 01:18:03.980
Fortunately, it doesn't happen so often.
01:18:03.980 --> 01:18:07.100
So I'm not, don't really lose sleep about this at night.
01:18:07.100 --> 01:18:11.500
A little bit more likely to cause an issue as an asteroid strike.
01:18:11.500 --> 01:18:15.340
The earth runs into about 3,700 to about 7,800 tons of debris.
01:18:15.340 --> 01:18:18.140
As it flows through space, occasionally some of these are big rocks.
01:18:18.140 --> 01:18:21.940
When a really big rock hits the planet, this can result in an extinction level event like
01:18:21.940 --> 01:18:23.220
what happened to the dinosaurs.
01:18:23.220 --> 01:18:25.820
The good news is that mammals became dominant and so we are here today.
01:18:25.820 --> 01:18:29.980
Otherwise we'd probably be lunch.
01:18:29.980 --> 01:18:33.700
The U.S. takes this threat fairly seriously so NASA has a near earth object program that
01:18:33.700 --> 01:18:36.980
tracks satellites that are large enough to cause damage to the planet.
01:18:36.980 --> 01:18:39.540
One problem that they face is they can only track them for about 100 years and the accuracy
01:18:39.540 --> 01:18:40.540
falls off.
01:18:40.540 --> 01:18:43.180
But fortunately Bruce Willis, our mom, get it in here.
01:18:43.180 --> 01:18:45.380
I just want to point out that he is also a Pensberg boy.
01:18:45.380 --> 01:18:46.380
We actually went to school together.
01:18:46.380 --> 01:18:48.340
It's a little town in New Jersey, 3,500 of us.
01:18:48.340 --> 01:18:52.460
A clear epicenter of planetary defense, so remember that, please.
01:18:52.460 --> 01:18:54.660
Anyway, moving up on the list, we have supervolcanoes.
01:18:54.660 --> 01:18:55.660
I do like Bruce Willis.
01:18:55.660 --> 01:18:57.220
We went there about every million years.
01:18:57.220 --> 01:18:59.540
We watched Die Harder the other day with my boys.
01:18:59.540 --> 01:19:00.700
That was pretty funny.
01:19:00.700 --> 01:19:03.620
These are volcanoes that are large enough to co-continent with about a half an inch of
01:19:03.620 --> 01:19:05.300
ash or more.
01:19:05.300 --> 01:19:10.060
Supervolcanoes, which was in Indonesia, resulted in ice age and knocked the...
01:19:10.060 --> 01:19:12.780
And look at that, that's Yellowstone right there.
01:19:12.780 --> 01:19:16.660
About 20 of these of concern on the planet, and this is ours, this is Yellowstone, obviously.
01:19:16.660 --> 01:19:19.020
Please go to the caldera and spend some time at that hotel.
01:19:19.020 --> 01:19:20.020
It's quite a treat.
01:19:20.020 --> 01:19:23.180
Finally, we have Carrington-level events, which probably some of you may have heard
01:19:23.180 --> 01:19:24.180
of.
01:19:24.180 --> 01:19:25.180
Most people, not these are geomagnetic storms.
01:19:25.180 --> 01:19:31.420
When solar flares throw off a lot of coronal mass, they can hit our electromagnetic waves
01:19:31.420 --> 01:19:34.700
that are around the earth and this can result in magnetic storms.
01:19:34.700 --> 01:19:36.460
The biggest one occurred in 1859.
01:19:36.460 --> 01:19:39.980
It wasn't much electronics at the time, but it caused fires and telegraph offices.
01:19:39.980 --> 01:19:42.700
It shocked our electrocuted telegraph workers.
01:19:43.180 --> 01:19:46.580
Much smaller ones occurred in the 60s and 70s at knockout power grids in the U.S. and
01:19:46.580 --> 01:19:47.580
Canada.
01:19:47.580 --> 01:19:51.100
Lloyd's of London says that they can cause about $23 million in damage and potentially
01:19:51.100 --> 01:19:52.620
knock out the power grid for one to five years.
01:19:52.620 --> 01:19:54.260
So this is not insignificant.
01:19:54.260 --> 01:19:57.460
And what's a little bit scary is that much larger flares are possible.
01:19:57.460 --> 01:20:01.020
So NASA has taken this pretty seriously, and if the first solar probe is going to go around
01:20:01.020 --> 01:20:03.700
the sun, it's going to be launched in the summer, and they are going to take a look
01:20:03.700 --> 01:20:04.700
at this.
01:20:04.700 --> 01:20:07.620
But this can certainly knock out GPS, cell phone, internet, and power grid for several years.
01:20:07.620 --> 01:20:10.300
Okay, so now we're back into infectious diseases.
01:20:10.300 --> 01:20:11.300
Here we are.
01:20:12.300 --> 01:20:15.300
From my perspective, though, since I've been on the planet, there's been an epidemic
01:20:15.300 --> 01:20:17.580
virus every decade starting with Asian flu in 1960.
01:20:17.580 --> 01:20:19.900
So do you see Asian flu?
01:20:19.900 --> 01:20:20.900
And then...
01:20:20.900 --> 01:20:25.300
In Hong Kong in 1967 or 1968, H1N1 came back in the 70s, followed by HIV, followed by
01:20:25.300 --> 01:20:27.540
West Nile, and then we got to the 21st century.
01:20:27.540 --> 01:20:28.540
And thanks, Spada.
01:20:28.540 --> 01:20:31.260
SARS was the first epidemic virus of the 20...
01:20:31.260 --> 01:20:40.700
Now here he doesn't actually mention the Spanish flu, but he did mention it in the talk
01:20:40.700 --> 01:20:45.860
from 2007, and said how many people had killed.
01:20:45.860 --> 01:20:50.780
So here we again are starting with this idea of worst case scenario, we're starting with
01:20:50.780 --> 01:20:56.220
the idea of pandemic potential, but extraordinarily, he is doing something that I think a lot of
01:20:56.220 --> 01:21:00.220
these gain-of-function people have done, especially since the start of the pandemic,
01:21:00.220 --> 01:21:06.940
and start to make equivalences with very, very planet-wide devastating events, rather
01:21:06.940 --> 01:21:12.940
than bring it down to a nuclear weapon, or bring it down to a few thousand people, we
01:21:12.940 --> 01:21:20.740
have to bring it up into orders of magnitude more impactual, like a meteor, or a Carrington
01:21:20.740 --> 01:21:27.260
event that would knock out the entire power grid of the Northern Hemisphere for five years.
01:21:27.260 --> 01:21:33.940
And so I cannot stress enough how important it is for you to see that this slide, describing
01:21:33.940 --> 01:21:38.140
what we are witnessing here, is so real.
01:21:38.140 --> 01:21:41.740
They definitely seeded the gain-of-function narrative with scientific programs.
01:21:41.740 --> 01:21:46.660
They knew what they were doing, and they co-opted people like Ralph Berwick with lots and lots
01:21:46.660 --> 01:21:53.380
of funding to do whatever the heck he wanted with translation regulatory sequences and trying
01:21:53.380 --> 01:21:57.460
to make attenuated viruses that couldn't de-attenduate.
01:21:57.460 --> 01:22:03.260
They let him do everything he wanted with that, as long as they also got the stitching
01:22:03.260 --> 01:22:04.260
thing to go.
01:22:04.260 --> 01:22:11.660
Got synthetic viruses and coronaviruses to go, and in fact, it's even possible that these
01:22:11.660 --> 01:22:17.460
things are just, they're just testing self-replicating RNA on us and calling them coronaviruses and
01:22:17.460 --> 01:22:21.820
normal viruses and flavoviruses and all this other stuff.
01:22:21.820 --> 01:22:27.560
None of these have perhaps have a significant natural signature, but the signature that
01:22:27.560 --> 01:22:32.620
we are told to pay attention to, the signature that they wave around all the time, could actually
01:22:32.620 --> 01:22:43.020
be always generated from a laboratory-created manufactured clone RNA.
01:22:43.020 --> 01:22:44.020
That's the reality.
01:22:44.020 --> 01:22:45.900
It could be.
01:22:45.900 --> 01:22:50.060
The reality is not that it could be that there are millions of viruses out there in
01:22:50.060 --> 01:22:55.260
the wild and that there are pandemics happening and avoided all the time.
01:22:55.260 --> 01:23:00.780
That's at least the idea that we are using clones all the time and making clones and
01:23:00.780 --> 01:23:05.660
that that's the only danger is at least as equally likely as the opposite.
01:23:05.660 --> 01:23:10.100
This worst-case scenario narrative, which I'm sure in my heart of hearts, it really feels
01:23:10.100 --> 01:23:13.900
like it doesn't have a firm foundation in biology.
01:23:13.900 --> 01:23:21.460
Again, you can find the entire gain of function symposium on usatonicits.com's website under
01:23:21.460 --> 01:23:24.500
the gain of function symposium 2016.
01:23:24.500 --> 01:23:29.380
All of those are also hosted on a YouTube channel, and then the individual video that
01:23:29.380 --> 01:23:34.660
we watched is also right there.
01:23:34.660 --> 01:23:35.660
So we have been...
01:23:35.660 --> 01:23:37.860
What I want is time morbidity.
01:23:37.860 --> 01:23:39.100
I want people to complain.
01:23:39.100 --> 01:23:41.300
By these people.
01:23:41.300 --> 01:23:43.020
And I think it is the best.
01:23:43.020 --> 01:23:48.500
It's really fabulous that Sacha Latopova has found James Giordano and realizes how pivotal
01:23:48.500 --> 01:23:49.500
this lecture is.
01:23:49.500 --> 01:23:54.780
I'm so happy that she's also trying to call out Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to make sure that
01:23:54.780 --> 01:24:00.540
we try to keep pushing him forward, to keep retrospectively looking at the pandemic
01:24:00.540 --> 01:24:07.020
for evidence from other fields and evidence from other data sets to prove or disprove
01:24:07.020 --> 01:24:10.340
the spread of a risk-additive pathogen in 2020.
01:24:10.340 --> 01:24:15.860
And I think we can get him over the edge to understand that infectious RNA clones is
01:24:15.860 --> 01:24:20.380
the only real threat in modern RNA virology.
01:24:20.380 --> 01:24:26.180
And again, that's because infectious material is very hard to come by by any other means.
01:24:26.180 --> 01:24:32.980
And we have been bamboozled by a spectacular commitment to this lie.
01:24:32.980 --> 01:24:36.580
Some people have been coerced, some people have been wittingly and unwittingly...
01:24:36.580 --> 01:24:38.620
Oh yeah, I wanted to show you that.
01:24:38.620 --> 01:24:40.300
I mean, isn't that crazy?
01:24:40.300 --> 01:24:47.820
Have you ever heard this language before, anywhere else, besides...
01:24:47.820 --> 01:24:48.820
Let me see if it's here.
01:24:48.820 --> 01:25:07.100
Did I copy it or did I wittingly or unwittingly?
01:25:07.100 --> 01:25:09.420
Here it is right here at the top.
01:25:09.420 --> 01:25:15.060
All pandemics to date have been faked by the military industrial globalist cabal with numerous
01:25:15.060 --> 01:25:20.260
witting and unwitting participants.
01:25:20.260 --> 01:25:21.660
I mean, I'm not...
01:25:21.660 --> 01:25:22.740
I don't care.
01:25:22.740 --> 01:25:24.860
I really don't.
01:25:24.860 --> 01:25:31.060
But I'm just wondering if anybody else that's watching the show right now sees any striking
01:25:31.060 --> 01:25:37.700
resemblance to the message that I've been sending for the last year, year and a half or so.
01:25:37.700 --> 01:25:39.340
Four ways to fake the...
01:25:39.340 --> 01:25:45.420
Easy ways to fake the pandemic, Spanish-fluous fake, John Bodman's good, Meryl Nasse and
01:25:45.420 --> 01:25:50.740
Lab Leaks, then witting and unwitting participants.
01:25:50.740 --> 01:25:52.780
RFK doesn't have it quite right yet.
01:25:52.780 --> 01:25:55.100
I actually have that in his book.
01:25:55.100 --> 01:25:57.380
And then also James Giordano.
01:25:57.380 --> 01:25:59.460
It's really interesting to me.
01:25:59.460 --> 01:26:03.180
But witting and unwitting participants is...
01:26:03.180 --> 01:26:06.060
I guess it's a pretty common phrase in English.
01:26:06.060 --> 01:26:07.220
I guess that's possible.
01:26:07.220 --> 01:26:08.220
I don't know.
01:26:08.220 --> 01:26:11.660
Anyway, here we are, ladies and gentlemen.
01:26:11.660 --> 01:26:17.420
It's been a fun, fun, fun time and it is only just starting.
01:26:17.420 --> 01:26:24.900
My 52nd year, the entire year is probably going to be spent trying to make sure that
01:26:24.900 --> 01:26:28.140
your kids and mine do not get on this train.
01:26:28.140 --> 01:26:34.380
The your kids and mine learned the truth that Alex Berenson said live on Joe Rogan that,
01:26:34.380 --> 01:26:39.540
you know, if you had to invest in one thing, it would be in sewage and in water treatment
01:26:39.540 --> 01:26:43.820
in sanitation because that's where we got the most gains.
01:26:43.820 --> 01:26:48.260
He's not going to go so far as to say that we didn't need vaccines, that we wouldn't
01:26:48.260 --> 01:26:53.340
have needed vaccines to have that huge reduction in polio and measles and other transmissible
01:26:53.340 --> 01:26:58.540
disease when we got nutrition up and we got water treatment up and we got sewage treatment
01:26:58.540 --> 01:27:00.620
up and we got water purity up.
01:27:00.620 --> 01:27:05.700
Hello.
01:27:05.700 --> 01:27:12.940
And they definitely don't want us to understand the extent of the coronavirus illusion.
01:27:12.940 --> 01:27:19.260
How little fidelity that they really have, how over exaggerated this signal has been
01:27:19.260 --> 01:27:21.860
and how unmonitored it was before the pandemic.
01:27:21.860 --> 01:27:23.980
So we can free our college kids.
01:27:23.980 --> 01:27:29.380
We can free our children and prevent our grandchildren from ever getting on this train in the first
01:27:29.380 --> 01:27:30.380
place.
01:27:30.380 --> 01:27:32.460
We have to teach our children the way out.
01:27:32.460 --> 01:27:37.340
We have to teach them the biology that will free them to make sure that this lie never
01:27:37.340 --> 01:27:38.700
becomes the truth.
01:27:38.700 --> 01:27:42.900
They must learn the biology because then it can't happen.
01:27:42.900 --> 01:27:46.180
And that biology describes this as a Scooby-Doo.
01:27:46.180 --> 01:27:51.380
We were fooled into believing that something leaked in 2009 by all the lies and the redacted
01:27:51.380 --> 01:27:54.460
emails and the arguing in front of the Senate.
01:27:54.460 --> 01:27:58.220
And for five years, we've been fooled by this illusion of consensus that people think
01:27:58.220 --> 01:28:02.420
that this is the right question to ask, that it's either a lab leak or a natural virus
01:28:02.420 --> 01:28:06.300
and getting mad about it and this faith that there was a virus, this faith that millions
01:28:06.300 --> 01:28:09.820
of people died, this is the danger, this is the mythology.
01:28:09.820 --> 01:28:13.980
We cannot pass on to our children or they will be lost forever and more importantly,
01:28:13.980 --> 01:28:15.580
our grandchildren will be.
01:28:15.580 --> 01:28:17.340
This faith is a lie.
01:28:17.340 --> 01:28:18.940
It was a background.
01:28:18.940 --> 01:28:21.260
It was an amplified noise.
01:28:21.260 --> 01:28:24.020
It was a signal that was planted there.
01:28:24.020 --> 01:28:31.540
It was not a natural occurrence.
01:28:31.540 --> 01:28:37.060
It was not a natural occurrence, like the spilling of a signal in one place and spreading from
01:28:37.060 --> 01:28:38.060
a point.
01:28:38.060 --> 01:28:40.020
That's not how it happened.
01:28:40.020 --> 01:28:42.420
And yet that's what we are told.
01:28:42.420 --> 01:28:44.860
That's what every one of these people believes.
01:28:44.860 --> 01:28:50.060
That's what every one of these people is defending, including Kevin McCurnan.
01:28:50.060 --> 01:28:55.980
Because the clone chemtrail hypothesis is, it's chemtrail retarded.
01:28:55.980 --> 01:29:01.980
The biology is the way out cause first call for a stop to the childhood vaccine schedule
01:29:01.980 --> 01:29:07.620
in America by simply advocating for it to be compared to other Western countries and
01:29:07.620 --> 01:29:14.220
acknowledge that it's too early and too many and therefore it has to be criminal advocate
01:29:14.220 --> 01:29:18.820
for strict liability for these products because that's the way that we fix this problem.
01:29:18.820 --> 01:29:22.380
Investigate the use of deadly protocols to cause mass casualty events.
01:29:22.380 --> 01:29:28.820
That's Jessica Hockett, that's Jonathan Engler, that's Martin Neal.
01:29:28.820 --> 01:29:32.340
Investigate the use of mass casualty events and transfection to create the illusion of
01:29:32.340 --> 01:29:34.180
a pandemic.
01:29:34.180 --> 01:29:39.500
And that we can talk to Pierre Corey and Nurse Aaron and all these other people that were
01:29:39.500 --> 01:29:44.740
supposedly there during the worst time but actually weren't and we're not really sure
01:29:44.740 --> 01:29:47.340
what they were doing.
01:29:47.340 --> 01:29:50.780
So we need to claim sovereignty over our children's bodies again, we need to get out
01:29:50.780 --> 01:29:54.620
of the who, we need to get out of the UN, we need to close our CDC.
01:29:54.620 --> 01:29:57.420
And you can see these people because they won't say these things.
01:29:57.420 --> 01:30:02.140
Pierre Corey said that all childhood vaccinations were bad at some point on Jimmy Dorr.
01:30:02.140 --> 01:30:05.620
So I think we should watch that video to see what else he says.
01:30:05.620 --> 01:30:07.540
But they won't advocate for strict liability.
01:30:07.540 --> 01:30:14.380
You won't hear any of these lawyers at ICANN like, like Siri say, we should just advocate
01:30:14.380 --> 01:30:15.460
for strict liability.
01:30:15.460 --> 01:30:20.660
You won't hear Siri say that we should go against this from the Seventh Amendment perspective
01:30:20.660 --> 01:30:22.540
and try to get it struck in federal court.
01:30:22.540 --> 01:30:25.940
You won't hear them say that because it's maybe not the right time or something.
01:30:25.940 --> 01:30:27.740
I don't know.
01:30:27.740 --> 01:30:30.220
You're not going to hear them talk about the deadly protocols.
01:30:30.220 --> 01:30:32.060
They're always going to now going forward.
01:30:32.060 --> 01:30:34.420
They're always going to focus on the vaccine.
01:30:34.420 --> 01:30:38.100
And that's what you saw when they co-opted Denny Rancor's data.
01:30:38.100 --> 01:30:41.340
They exclusively focused on the 17 million number.
01:30:41.340 --> 01:30:46.100
Now you have people calling out Brett Weinstein is saying that 17 million number, the 17
01:30:46.100 --> 01:30:47.620
million number is dumb.
01:30:47.620 --> 01:30:50.500
And you have Brett Weinstein say, well, I didn't say 17 million.
01:30:50.500 --> 01:30:53.380
I was just quoting somebody else.
01:30:53.380 --> 01:30:58.380
And all the while everybody ignores the John Bodewin and Denny Rancor and Jessica Hawkett
01:30:58.380 --> 01:31:03.620
and Jonathan Engler all have data from all around the world that shows there was no spreading
01:31:03.620 --> 01:31:06.620
pathogen.
01:31:06.620 --> 01:31:10.820
They don't use the word clone because it's going to reveal the fact that RNA virology
01:31:10.820 --> 01:31:17.820
in and of itself is foundationally dependent on this methodology and therefore is overextended
01:31:17.820 --> 01:31:23.900
is exaggerated and likely most are all of the objections laid out by Stefan Lanka and the
01:31:23.900 --> 01:31:28.220
Bailey's and all these people are likely true.
01:31:28.220 --> 01:31:32.100
And so you're damn right I was taken.
01:31:32.100 --> 01:31:35.900
And so as I admit this, they make fun of it as I admit this people are coming on.
01:31:35.900 --> 01:31:37.820
Well, why didn't you just vaccinate your kids?
01:31:37.820 --> 01:31:38.820
Yeah, I did.
01:31:38.820 --> 01:31:39.820
I admitted it.
01:31:39.820 --> 01:31:42.900
I lied about it and I'll do it again.
01:31:42.900 --> 01:31:46.180
Cry about it, that is.
01:31:46.180 --> 01:31:48.540
It's these other people who say I just made honest mistakes.
01:31:48.540 --> 01:31:54.460
I don't have anything to apologize for just because I advocated for masks for two years,
01:31:54.460 --> 01:31:58.340
just because I advocated for lockdown for two years, just because I said it was a gain
01:31:58.340 --> 01:31:59.700
a function virus for two years.
01:31:59.700 --> 01:32:04.500
I don't have any obligation to learn virology for myself so that I don't make a mistake
01:32:04.500 --> 01:32:08.620
to my hundreds of thousands of viewers.
01:32:08.620 --> 01:32:11.260
That's what these people think.
01:32:11.260 --> 01:32:12.580
That's not what we're doing here though.
01:32:12.580 --> 01:32:16.460
We're teaching this biology now and we're going to keep teaching it as we try to do study
01:32:16.460 --> 01:32:18.540
halls to figure it out together.
01:32:18.540 --> 01:32:23.060
We're going to try and summarize across the entire show and we're going to attack ideas
01:32:23.060 --> 01:32:24.180
instead of people.
01:32:24.180 --> 01:32:28.560
That's how we're going to get out of this because they are trying to reduce the population
01:32:28.560 --> 01:32:33.140
and they are going to do it by just not letting our kids think it's a cool thing to
01:32:33.140 --> 01:32:40.780
have have kids to show you commercials on YouTube about being a single woman with
01:32:40.780 --> 01:32:48.140
no kids and how great it is or on rumble because they don't want us to have kids.
01:32:48.140 --> 01:32:50.380
They want the population to go down.
01:32:50.380 --> 01:32:55.820
They really do but as it goes down, they also want you to surrender.
01:32:55.820 --> 01:32:57.620
They want our kids to surrender.
01:32:57.620 --> 01:33:02.380
More importantly, more importantly, the way to say it is they want us to surrender our
01:33:02.380 --> 01:33:07.900
children because they think that the artificial general intelligence is just right around
01:33:07.900 --> 01:33:08.900
the corner.
01:33:08.900 --> 01:33:12.460
So they got to collect this data so that they can feed it and so that it can figure
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out how the genome works.
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It can figure out all the irreducible complexity that we've never been able to penetrate.
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Ladies and gentlemen, stop all transfections in humans because they are trying to eliminate
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the control group by any means necessary intramuscular injection of any combination of substances
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with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
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Transfection in healthy humans is criminally negligent and viruses are not patterned integrity.
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Thank you very much guys, thank you very much for joining me and thanks for the birthday
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wishes.
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I will have a good time.
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I'm going to watch this game.
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I coached already this morning early and came back and I did the stream and I got the eighth
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graders, the eighth grade boy he plays but I'm not his coach.
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If you would like to support the stream, please go to gigglehomebiological.com.
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If you'd like to communicate with me there, you can find a telephone number, you can
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also find an email, you can find me at gigglehome.bio which is kind of like a Twitter alternative.
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You can support Gigglehome there at the green, you can find this link at the watch and then
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I can't thank everybody enough for jumping on board.
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I will not let you down this year.
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These subscribers are contributing to what I think is going to be the most important
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or one of the most important independent news streams on the internet in the coming year
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and I think Mark, who's a tonic live and myself and a few other people are starting
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to form what is a loose, you know, intellectual bright web on the internet and I'm really
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excited and I really have these people and more to thank for that.
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So thank you very much for joining me and if you have the means and the opportunity
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I have a drink for me, please, 52 years old, see you tomorrow.