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Gonna try and pack this all in in about a half an hour, because Mark is coming on at 8, and so I don't wanna get it his way, I'm just gonna kind of be a pre-show and give that the voice just a little bit of a rest
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The schedule for 16 minutes next is going on French, British, Italian, Japanese television.
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People everywhere are starting to listen to him.
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It's embarrassing.
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Kids deserve a lot of credit.
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This town's been flooded with phony twenties for weeks.
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Oh, it was nothing, really.
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But old Mr. Pietro posing as a doorman sure had us fooled for a while.
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He really gave himself away when he put on his little puppet show for us.
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The real hero of Scooby-Doo.
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By the way, where is he?
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Oh, no. Look at him.
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Like I said before, what a ham.
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Whoopee, whoopee, whoopee, whoop.
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God damn tea was too hot. I just burnt my throat. Dang it.
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Hello, everybody. Welcome to the show. Good to see you guys here. Thanks for joining me again tonight.
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Sound just a little scratchy, but I guess it's just something I'm going to get out of my throat here.
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No problems.
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I slept like a million dollars last night, which was just spectacular.
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If anything, my voice is a little bit lower today than it was yesterday.
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This is Gigo in biological and high-resistance local information free on how to stand my hours.
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2023, 22 of October.
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And we are still trying to fight through this limited spectrum of bait, which we have been trapped in by TV and social media.
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And we're still trying to make what is perceived to be true, actually true, Gigo's in general.
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Because as of right now, we're still misleadingly young, and that's going to lead to disaster.
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We don't fix that real soon.
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But they've been doing it to us for a while, right? That's why we all fell for it.
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And so anybody can come to life. It's never too late.
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And so we've got to make sure that our family and friends understand that it's not too late to admit that, you know,
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something screwy is going on and I should have known better.
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But it's getting more and more obvious that people have to actively ignore what's going on otherwise it's just obvious.
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So yeah, welcome to the show. Welcome to the show.
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We're going to do a short one tonight because, like I said, although I think I'm firing on all cylinders more or less,
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it still feels a little alien.
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And it still feels like I should be a little more careful.
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And so I'm not sure what to say about the obvious sort of settling in at an even slightly lower octave than yesterday.
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But it's been pretty consistent all day. And in fact, when I woke up this morning, if you can believe it, it was even lower than this.
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I don't know what to say. It's still, it's pretty close to the original instrument, but, you know, obviously things happened in my larnix or voice box or whatever.
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And so, yeah, we're just going to keep playing it by ear. I'm not, I don't feel like I'm stressing it at all.
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So it's, you know, just, I'm just going with it.
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Yeah, it was obviously inflamed. It was obvious. I mean, there's all kinds of things wrong with it.
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But now, I don't know, I'm just trying to keep my throat clean.
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I've been gargling some kind of colloidal silver mouthwash.
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I've been, you know, trying to brush my teeth a couple times a day, which I normally do, but now a little bit more vigilantly maybe.
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I don't know. I don't know what to do. I'm just trying to play it by ear and keep thinking because I'm definitely thankful.
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So don't take the bait on TV and social media. That's been our message for a long time now. And it is this Scooby-Doo mystery that they're still trying to get us to solve.
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And so, as we approach Halloween and then more importantly, Thanksgiving, when a lot of us are going to come together with our family and friends, it would be really good for us to have some, let's say, talking points ready to go.
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And so I'm kind of interested in input on that perspective.
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So if you, you know, you're that emailing type or you got an opinion that you always wanted to share in the next couple weeks, it might be a good idea because I think this is, this is one of those thanksgivings where a lot of progress might be made.
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So that's my hope.
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There are all these books that are out there that people might be talking about as they sit at your, you know, your, your dinner table.
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And so it might be good to already have something to talk about.
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And then this book apparently is going to come out on December 5th of course.
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I imagine it's going to be pushed back even farther because that's how this clown show goes.
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But hopefully it will be December 5th and so that we can, you know, make some progress from that, that sort of spiking of the football there.
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We're still trying to, I'm still trying to teach everybody that these people have been put into place.
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They were put in place a long time ago.
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I guess I get this music out of here.
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They were put in place a long time ago.
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And it's not something that a lot of us have been aware of for a long time.
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I mean, I, at one point during the pandemic.
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Thought that it was a borderline miracle that I finally got in touch with Brett Weinstein and that I was on a signal chat with him made it seem so like, you know, progress was really being made.
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And that's in the end.
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What we're, what we're dealing with here is that this is the control mechanism by which that Noam Chomsky quote in the beginning there is really executed this limited spectrum of debate.
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But then a lively discussion within that limited spectrum to make people think that there's a real genuine resistance, a genuine dissident, you know, opinion.
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And that's what this intellectual dark web does in a nutshell.
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And it's interesting to note that that that intellectual dark web was put in place around 2018 or 2019 largely by people like Elon Musk and Peter Teal.
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And then we now know that Peter Teal is invested in this antibody patent paradox to the hilt.
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It just becomes obvious that this is the story right here.
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The only question is, are we, am I fooling myself into thinking that what's on this screen is somehow revolutionary rather than exactly what they want.
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Because maybe the idea is to tear down the old system to expose it as garbage, but to play a shell game and get everybody to accept the idea that MRNA is a wonderful next generation replacement for this previously misguided intramuscular injection methodology.
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That's a distinct possibility that I don't dismiss lightly.
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And in fact, I don't dismiss at all.
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And I'm still trying to check myself to make sure that I'm not really just a puppet already here leading the charge to burn it all down or something like that, which is not really what I mean.
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But with regard to the vaccine schedule, I basically mean that.
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Let me see.
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Do I have this set up correctly?
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I think I do.
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So this illusion of consensus is what we're trying to break.
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It's these people that we're trying to pin down.
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And I'm going to continue to work on that on and off for the coming weeks.
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But right now, I think it's better for my voice and us that we do more of these study halls for the next couple weeks where, where maybe I'll take some notes.
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Maybe I won't depending on what it is.
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I'll just stop and talk about some of the things that are here.
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And tonight I have a very last night.
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Sorry.
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We had this.
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We had this show with with Annie DeGroote.
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And actually, that should be.
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Yeah, it should be root.
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Groot.
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And it's DeGroote, I think.
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And in Dutch, you would say, oh, long old for that.
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So that's DeGroote.
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Why?
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I haven't said a Dutch word since I broke my throat.
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So that's weird because that's actually back there.
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DeGroote.
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And now I can say.
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Anyway, Annie DeGroote is the leader of this epivax company.
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And so we were trying to, I was trying to take a little bit out of this talk about T-cell epitopes and a little bit about general immunology that I have been talking about before.
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That the T-cell epitopes were actually important, that they would actually look for them.
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And that there was this possibility that they would use T-cell epitopes planted in a biologic to sort of up or down, you know, up regulate the immunogenicity of an otherwise non-immunogenic protein.
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And so they could have done that with a coronavirus spike protein, which may not be very immunogenic because it has overlap with human sequences, which she showed in that discussion to be actually tolerogenic.
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So coronavirus proteins, especially the spike proteins, are designed to be tolerogenic.
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So if you wanted to make a coronavirus spike protein, one of the ways to do it, an epivax technology would have definitely been a way to do it, would be to take one of these or more of these small epitopes and insert them into a spike protein and then claim that this was the spike protein that you found on this novel coronavirus so that when you used it as an immunogen, it would already work.
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One of the other possibilities, of course, is to insert some novel sequence into the spike protein of the vaccine that you took, that you're basing on the viral protein.
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And either way, you would be doing the same thing, but it's ultra clever, right?
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If you put it in the wild sequence, and then when it's in the wild sequence, you just kind of shrug your shoulders.
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Well, guess it's there, even though all along, you knew that you had already designed it to have many of those epitopes and to be highly immunogenic.
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So that's one of those things where, again, this is where I tend to agree with people like Kevin McCarron because this is a very, was a fine line.
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And she was showing you this hot scale of almost like a skull ball rating of peppers, but she was looking at immunogenicity of proteins.
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And then talking about these small T cell epitopes and the more of them that there were, the higher on the immunogenicity scale, these proteins showed up.
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So that's extraordinary because then the next step there is, of course, can you make proteins that are more immunogenic?
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And her answer, of course, would be, who's asking? And if it was the DOD, she would say, absolutely, I can.
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And so here again, you just got to understand that although they have this technology deploying, it still would require recombinant DNA to make the RNA, and then that RNA would essentially be a clone, right?
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Because that's how you would do it. You've got to make it perfect.
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So there's, or the protein from it. But anyway, I wanted to watch this video because this video is another dude that works for Abselara, but he does the machine learning.
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And it's a short video. I can get it done by eight. And I'm going to stop it before it's all the way done because I really want to do is just get to the technology that they use to sort through these cells.
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So you can see the basic methodology isn't that magical.
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And then you can see really how actually it's possible that these guys just came together because of this microfluidics technology.
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And, I mean, glow on the dark beads and stuff like that is so basic technology that they use. It's actually quite extraordinary.
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And in a way, it's foolproof, but also, you know, you see again why all this talk that we've watched a couple of lectures of these people now.
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And they make these grave, great excuse me, grand statements about what they can accomplish and what they can do.
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And they have all this jargon and stuff. But in the end, it's just little tiny single cell wells that they're able to fill with single cells.
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There's little beads in there and there's some fluorescence and it's not really that clever.
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And that's, you know, maybe sounds arrogant from my perspective or from your perspective for me to say that.
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But I just, I don't want, I want, what I want you to see is that actually the technology to make that little container with microfluidic chambers is more important to this than the beads because the beads, I mean, it's, we're going to explain it when we listen to it.
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Let's just do that now.
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And I will shrink my head.
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I'm Fabius and I joined a seller six months ago and I'm now leading the machine learning team.
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My background is machine learning and software engineering.
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Before, I spent 10 years on Google speech recognition team, followed by another two years at Google health, working on computer vision for radiology.
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So first, here's a disclaimer about this talk. I'll give you a few seconds to read it over. This is from our lawyers.
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Next, my plan for today is to tell you about a seller is technology platform.
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Oh, so that, that part, just so you know that I didn't miss it, that part was just something where he, he has this statement up here that said this presentation contains forward looking statements.
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So he's just, he's basically saying that we're making a bunch of predictions, but as a result, the forward looking statements may not prove accurate.
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And so you can't hold this accountable of what we're talking shit about right now. We can't actually accomplish.
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So just, it's not some special disclaimer. It's just kind of sad, actually, because then he's admitting that this is just a sales pitch with a lot of tough talk.
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From our lawyers.
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Next, my plan for today is to tell you about a seller is technology platform for discovering therapeutic antibodies and how machine learning makes a key part of it.
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At the highest level, we at a seller are a tech company. We make long term investments in teams and technology so that we can fast track drug development and we partner with drug developers from large pharmaceutical companies to small biotech startups.
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We help them move quickly, reduce their costs and tackle their toughest problems.
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We built a modern technology platform for drug development and it ensures that the best science is quickly translated into new therapies so that we can benefit patients.
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Our arena for drug discovery is the adaptive immune system. And like all the biology, it's quickly becoming a goldmine for data science.
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Within each individual nature is operating at this massively diverse scale.
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Every one of us can make billions of different antibodies. It was almost like he kind of slipped there, right? He was going to say a goldmine and then he realized it all the way.
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You could see that he knew that was kind of like a double meaning. You know, it's a lot of money and also a lot of data.
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The ab in our name of Celera is a nod to these antibodies or abs as we affectionately call them. They're a crucial part of our immune system.
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This little green Y shaped symbol underneath represents the antibodies in this talk and it gives you a guarantee you during this entire talk he's not going to stop calling them antibodies is never going to call them abs.
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And that is just such a dumb statement. I can't. Anyway, I'm wasting time.
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Big idea of the shape of an antibody molecule.
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So at any given moment, we've got millions of immune cells making different antibodies and these antibodies form a molecular database based on the state of our health.
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They serve sort of as a memory of all the previous infection and disease challenges that we've ever faced.
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But one of the big problems in understanding adaptive immunity is the lack of technology to read this database to understand it and to change it.
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We can tackle this problem by analyzing the individual immune cells. Each of them produces one of the billions of antibody molecules a person can make.
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And every immune cell contains its own DNA code, which describes how to make a potentially therapeutic antibody.
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So the solution is to search through the immune system's vast database and find ways to interrogate one at a time.
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You have millions of cells that underlie our adaptive immune system.
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Appsellors drug discovery platform uses microfluidics, machine learning and other computation and customer robotics and automation to search, decode and analyze the natural immune system at record speed and depth.
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The speed and depth of our technology has redefined how antibody drugs are discovered.
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We've compressed a process that can take years into just weeks.
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And this is kind of giving you a bird's eye bird's eye view of what we do.
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It starts by sourcing a natural immune response, which can be in the form of a blood sample from a person or an animal exposed to a target pathogen, or from an animal immunized with some immunogen.
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The immune system can actually be directed to make antibodies against any target, such as those important in cancer or other targets that can cause other diseases.
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Next, we search the sample using our high throughput single cell screening pipeline.
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Here, we examine millions of immune cells to identify hundreds of high potential target specific antibodies.
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And this happens in just a matter of days.
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We use machine learning and computer vision here in ways I'll describe later.
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Computer vision. That's really funny. That's not.
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It's automated confocal microscopy and my guess is. But anyway, it's funny.
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Situate the genomic profile of the single cell antibodies we find within the broader content.
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Oh, my God. I just realized something, Mark. You're not going to believe this.
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But remember when Robert Malone was on the Tommy podcast with Hatfield? And I told you, he was on there.
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And he said, he said a completely different methodology for how he screened those drugs.
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So in one interview or more, one more than one interview, he said that he, it's okay.
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You can come through just in more than one interview.
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He said that he had made an x-ray crystallography model of the three CL protease and then interface that with all of the known drugs.
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And pharmaceuticals in the FDA catalog.
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And in another, in that specific Tommy interview, what he said was, is that they used high throughput confocal,
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my laser confocal microscopy, which is exactly, exactly what you would use in this scenario and what they're going to describe in five minutes,
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which is very, very curious because the two aren't the same.
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If you use a computer model of x-ray crystallography of an enzyme and interface that with computer models of different pharmaceuticals,
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that's entirely different than using live samples and high throughput laser scanning confocal microscopy, which is certainly how they're doing this.
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So that's curious to me.
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Next up, the overall immune response, which we can further sample using a process called repertoire profiling, and I'll describe that in more detail later.
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The most promising antibodies we find are expressed and further characterized based on approximately 500 different factors.
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And again, here we use machine learning, bioinformatics, and advanced data visualization techniques to determine their developability and suitability as drug candidates.
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So the result is a set of fully characterized and validated antibodies ready for development as potential therapies.
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As a side note, sometimes, when I talk to people outside of epsilon, one of the things they misunderstand is the difference between an antibody and a vaccine.
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So vaccines are designed to teach your body to make its own antibodies, but that process can take many weeks, and not everyone can survive an infection for that long,
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which is why you typically need to be vaccinated well in advance of your exposure to a disease or a pathogen.
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Yeah.
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But therapeutic antibodies can give you a shortcut.
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They give someone immediate access to a potent antibody long before their immune system could have figured it out, how to make something equally effective.
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So next, I'd like to walk you through more of the details of these steps.
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And along the way, I'll explain a few more ideas from immunology and also some of our technological innovations.
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And as you might imagine, there are many places on this pipeline where machine learning comes in handy.
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So I'll talk about those as well.
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I mentioned earlier that it all starts with a natural immune response.
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So something that's really fascinating to me is that all vertebrates have what's called an adaptive immune system.
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It starts to kick in within a week or two weeks of exposure to a pathogen.
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And unlike the rest of our body's cells, adaptive immune cells have special tricks to rearrange and mutate their own DNA as they try to create better antibodies.
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If you've ever implemented a genetic search algorithm on a computer, it's actually a pretty good analogy for what's going on with these B cells.
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Here, the fitness function is how well the resulting antibody binds to the target.
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So the B cells, what they're doing is searching for a protein structure that docks with a pathogen and binds to it.
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And the search is massively parallel. It's happening all over your body as the B cells divide.
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The result of the search, which progresses over the weeks and months following your exposure to a pathogen, is a huge diversity of B cells,
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each of which produces its own antibody protein.
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But since these B cells are scattered throughout the immune organs and the blood mixed with everything else, getting the right ones is like finding a needle in a haystack.
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So to look through the haystack, we developed an assay that contains hundreds of thousands of B cells in tiny isolated chambers on a microfluidic device, the size of a credit card.
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So one of the patents will be how they fill these cells with only one cell.
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There's probably a process or a robot or a series of solutions, whatever they do to get that.
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That would be one of the patented processes here.
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One way we can use it is to load individual B cells into the device's chambers.
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So here, the B cell is depicted as the green circle inside the chamber.
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And alongside the B cell, we can also load these tiny beads that are coated with different target antigen proteins, shown here as gray spheres.
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These isolated B cells in the chamber will then secrete their own antibody inside that chamber.
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So if the B cell is secreting a good antibody, an antibody that binds to the proteins on the beads, it'll stick to the beads that are coated with the antigen.
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Both the beads and the antibodies can be fluorescently tagged.
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And this results in a visual signature when the antibodies stick to the beads.
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We can pick up this signature using high-throughput fluorescence microscopy.
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And just as a side note...
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High-throughput fluorescence microscopy. You heard him say it.
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That's exactly what Robert Malone said on the Tommy podcast with Hatfield.
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I'm sure of it.
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Sometimes we also load other kinds of beads coated with proteins we don't want the antibodies to bind to.
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And again, whether or not the antibodies are sticking to those beads is also visible in the fluorescent...
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No, this is clever. And they would get to narrow things down a lot.
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But they're still left with hundreds of antibody candidates that bind their target proteins.
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So they could probably repeat this over and over with an ever more specific antigen set in here.
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But I don't think he's going to explain that totally here.
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So, as I mentioned, there are over 250,000 chambers in a single microfluidic device.
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And our high-throughput microscopy system images each chamber at several different wavelengths to create a multi-channel image,
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which is depicted on the bottom right in sort of a cartoon format.
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I have no doubt in my mind that this works for finding monoclonal antibodies.
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I have no doubt in my mind. It's a great idea.
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But now what they're doing is they're going to sequence these cells.
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Vision model models can help us.
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They're going to sequence these cells and then they're going to use those sequences in their informatics.
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That's really the trick here. You can see it.
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The particular binding profile that we want.
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For heavily multiplexed assays with many different types of beads,
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humans can't easily keep track of which bead types are binding and which aren't.
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So computer vision also enables richer multiplexing.
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See, machine vision, that's also just dumb.
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It is how you would do it in high-throughput fluorescence microscopy.
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You use different wavelengths and then you use a photon detector so your eye isn't seeing it.
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And it's using these words to try and bamboozle the audience.
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You're absolutely right. He's selling stock right now.
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But remember that a lot of how the momentum of the pandemic was created with this kind of stuff before the pandemic.
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This kind of momentum. We heard it in the 2019 talks that we watched two days ago where the guy was saying,
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he said anti-vaxxers. He said, take your flu shot.
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He said antibodies were the solution. He said vaccines were the only way.
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He said everything. So it shouldn't be underestimated how on narrative this stuff has always been
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and how it will remain on narrative that this technology is necessary to save us from our environment,
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from our mother nature. I've got about six minutes and then we're going to use a tonic live on YouTube.
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Our computer vision models use popular state-of-the-art architectures for classification, object detection and image segmentation.
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And one thing that's really important is they need to be robust and work across a wide variety of assay configurations
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and robust to the variance and noise that you typically see in these kinds of biological experiments.
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So once we've picked the hits using computer vision, we'll use an automated robotic process to recover them.
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And then we analyze the recovered B cells to identify the amino acid sequences of the antibodies they're producing.
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So what this lets us do is reproduce samples of the antibody for later characterization and validation.
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So one output from our bioinformatics pipeline is the genetic sequence from each B cell.
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And we can use this to figure out the amino acid sequences that make up each antibody.
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And this table is kind of a sketch of what that data looks like.
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So each row here is a single antibody.
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And each letter in the row represents an amino acid in the protein sequence.
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At the highest level, human antibodies are formed from two distinct amino acid chains.
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One is called the heavy chain.
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And it's shown here spanning most of the slide, the width of most of the slide, with a dark gray header.
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And on the right, there's a light chain with a lighter gray header.
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I've actually chopped out many of the heavy chains amino acids and all the amino acids from the light chain
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so that this table would fit on the screen.
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But what I want you to see is that each chain has a few different regions within it.
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The blue regions are called the framework regions and they provide a scaffolding structure for the antibody.
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And they vary less across different antibodies.
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Whereas the orange regions are known as the CDR loops.
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And they're the part of the antibody that actually determines what it's going to bind to.
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And so there's an incredibly rich diversity here.
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If you remember the idea of the genetic search, this is where most of the point mutations in the immune system search are focused
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is on the CDR loops.
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So at this point, what we've done is we've gone from an enormous haystack of images
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to a smaller but still daunting haystack of amino acid sequences.
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And as you might guess, it's hard to just read these sequences directly.
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But there's been an explosion of techniques in the field of natural language processing
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that fit perfectly onto these kinds of data sets.
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So you heard him in the beginning, right? He worked for Google and he did language processing AI models
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or machine learning models. And now he's going to apply those to understanding the antibodies.
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And what you're going to see is an interesting thing.
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And then we're going to let it go. It's like three minutes and then we're done here.
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One example, we can approach the complexity of this sequence space using dimensionality reduction.
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So what this means is we take the high dimensional amino acid sequences for each antibody
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and encode them into a lower dimensional embedding vector.
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So what you see here, each point in this plot is a single antibody heavy chain.
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And we've projected the sequence space down to just two dimensions so that we can plot the antibodies on the screen.
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And each of the three panels here shows the sequences that came from a different donor.
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And what's really nice about the way this turned out is that the 2D projection of the sequences
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isn't really clustering the donors away from one another.
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It could have turned out that the differences between different donors were so large that each donor would land in its own region
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of this two-dimensional projection space. But that didn't happen.
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Instead, what you see is that each donor's antibodies are well distributed across the entire two-dimensional projection space.
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What's cool is that if we color the antibodies using some metric of...
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It's not really clear to me what this two-dimensional space is and what the heavy chain U-map and whatever one and zero is.
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And so that makes it somewhat confusing.
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But let's just assume that they're using some uniform classification.
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And you can see that the cluster patterns across these different donors is pretty similar, which is interesting
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in that, again, what we saw with epivacs, there are likely certain residues in these proteins
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which attract the attention of the immune system for whatever reason being immunogenic, even across donors.
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And that should lead you to believe that this lack, almost lack of diversity here is because to a certain extent,
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there's a limited palette of foreign and immunogenic sequences that not surprisingly is pretty similar across humans.
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I mean, we use different HLA subtypes, but the diversity within that subtype from a given pathogen shouldn't be that different.
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What should be different is how what antibody sequence is chosen to represent that portion.
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And so it's curious that they cue in on the right on the same epitopes irrespective of whether they have the same HLA subtype.
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So what I believe this suggests from the perspective of the other technology that we saw the other day with epivacs
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is that the HLA specificity changes certain amino acids in the projected epitope and certain amino acids,
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which are known for in the selected B cells and T cells on the other side.
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And I should have said that up T cells and B cells on the other side of antigen presentation.
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So maybe that probably wasn't a very good explanation because it's no visuals here.
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But I think I understand this in a way that I think it makes sense that this works.
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I think it's a question of what can these antibodies be used for besides curing cancer.
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Like how well they neutralize the virus.
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We can see that even across donors, some factors jump out as being hotspots for potential neutralizers.
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So, for example, in each panel, there's this cluster of potent red antibodies in the lower left quadrant.
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I'll see if I can turn to Mike.
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So we don't even know what they stimulated this to, right?
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We don't know what the antigen was in this study.
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So it's really a vague description of what's going on.
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And has somebody said earlier, it's a bit like hypnosis, it's a bit, it's a bit salesy, it's a bit.
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It's a bit snake oily in that sense.
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This cluster here is what I'm talking about.
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It shows up in several of these panels.
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Good evening from Pittsburgh, Hong Kong.
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So this is exactly what we want to see.
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That our sequence embedding vectors are encoding useful information about the properties of the antibodies.
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So once we've identified antibodies of interest, first via imaging and then by looking at their sequences,
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we express and characterize them using several different assays.
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The first thing we want to do is validate that the antibodies bind as we actually expect they would.
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And then we have many other assays to measure things like chemical properties, their stability, their affinity,
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and the way they bind to our particular antigen.
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All this characterization data feeds our machine learning algorithms
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and can inform both upstream antibody detection and selection and also downstream protein engineering.
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And we continually accumulate more and more of this data as we run these assays.
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So make sure you heard that, right?
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He just told you a very special thing there.
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It's very similar to what EpiVac said.
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Annie DeGroote said, excuse me, that they can find those immunogenic epitopes.
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But then more importantly, the obvious dual use of that is to insert them into proteins,
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to make proteins more immunogenic.
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And he basically just said the same thing.
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You can use that.
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This information of these epitopes and the way they're encoded in antibodies also in protein design.
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And so biologics, proteins, protein design, I can't think of very many other things that you would want to design
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from the perspective of a vaccine other than immunogenicity.
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So controlling where that immunogenicity is on the protein
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and where the immune system focuses would be a pretty spectacular art form.
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And I think it's very possible that that's the story that's being manipulated here,
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that what they did was they told us a story about a sequence they found embedded in that sequence
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was a pre-designed immunogen.
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Whether or not that immunogen ever went in circulation I think is beyond a doubt not likely.
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But whether that immunogen was released as a transfection, as an infectious clone,
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with limited spread or with a large quantity over some of these places, that's very possible.
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And if it had an immunogenic protein on it, of course that would have generated a lot of the disease states
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that were necessary in order to start that panic in those different geographic regions.
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This technology to me has so much dual use, and the way that they took us so long to find this,
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and once we've found all of this, the way that the work of Mark Gulak and others,
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but for me, mainly Mark, has tied in some of the key players of the dissidents into this story.
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And one of those important ones, of course, is Robert Malone.
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We're both upstream antibody detection and selection, and also downstream protein engineering.
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And we continually accumulate more and more of this data as we run these assays,
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which means we can feed it back into our ML models and create a virtuous cycle to keep improving them.
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So at this point, I've described how we accumulate sort of a mountain.
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One of the things that you can imagine, which I just,
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I get frustrated when I think this kind of thing because I'm hesitant to say it because of the no virus people.
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But if we were to entertain the possibility that coronaviruses are a real RNA shadow in nature,
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that occasionally makes people sick all around the world,
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and that there's some homology between the yearly waves of coronavirus
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because the homology is around the most conserved proteins,
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including the RNA-dependent RNA polymerase.
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But then they said that there was a novel one, again with this designer immunogen on it,
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so that when they transfected people with it,
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a naturally occurring pathogen would become dangerous.
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And if you wanted to get rid of a large portion of a useless population,
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you might say everybody that takes this shot will just be more vulnerable to the immune interaction
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with these previously harmless coronaviruses,
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which again, according to their mythology, have so much overlap in their proteins
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that according to anti-dechrot, or dechrot,
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the protein would actually be tolerogenic.
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And so that's no good if all of the coronavirus proteins are mimicking human epitopes
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so that they generate tolerance,
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then you have a real issue because then how do you make a vaccine to that?
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You don't.
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But you could make a vaccine to it if you designed the spike protein
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that you intended to use as a vaccine to be immunogenic
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and then lied about it being present in a novel lab league.
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And I know I'm going out here on a limb here, but what?
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I mean, otherwise I'm repeating myself over and over again.
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I think this is the sort of intellectual space you have to explore at this stage,
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because if this is the front-facing, public, non-confidential presentation that this guy gives,
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then I can anticipate what the behind-the-scenes DARPA DOD presentation is.
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That's for sure.
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And I can certainly imagine what Dr. Giordano would take with this
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and say, well, what we can do with this is a lot.
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So to me, that's pretty easy to see.
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Anyway, I'm going to let this go for a little while longer,
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because Mark might not be ready till 8.30,
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so I'm going to go a little while longer.
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If he doesn't ping me back, I'll just end in a few minutes anyway.
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Data, characterizing the antibodies we find.
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But it's likely that there's still too many antibodies to bring to a clinical trial.
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So we have to further refine the list.
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So we've developed this internal tool, we call it Celium,
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to help our scientists make sense of this very high-dimensional data set.
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And so that's really the trick, right?
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That's what they're selling.
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They're doing some pretty basic microfluidic sorting of B cells.
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And the actual selling thing, I think, honestly,
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after they have all this high-throughput screening of B cells done.
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And the main thing that they're selling,
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the main thing that they're going to leverage are AI, machine learning,
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software stacks that contain patented code,
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or patented subroutines, or patented search parameters, yada, yada,
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yada, whatever it is, trademark names.
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And that's how they layer on the value that they provide to their clients.
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That's how they layer on the value that they draw for the royalties
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that they're going to charge when they return the data back to those people,
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and then they use it to make products and they owe them royalties.
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That's the whole model.
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And so companies that bring their old monoclonals to them
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can launder them through here and generate new monoclonals
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to the same target that might be better and then have launder them through
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or produce them with this software.
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So it's a patentable process that enables the finding of monoclonal antibodies.
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And so you just bypassed the antibody patent paradox completely,
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and then you did it in Canada, no matter, even better.
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See, I think it's a really interesting story that more people,
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with more knowledge than I, need to latch onto it,
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start to investigate how plausible this is.
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And meanwhile, they have Dr. Giordano running around and telling everybody
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about all this other stuff that's actually still 50 years on the horizon
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if that, where all of this stuff is real and right now
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and totally relevant for the pandemic narrative.
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So I don't know what to say.
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It overlays information derived from the protein sequences,
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alongside measurements collected at the wet bench.
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So it gives scientists a way to tease apart and understand these relationships.
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And we're constantly integrating more powerful ML-backed analysis tools
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into Selium to help our scientists understand the antibody landscape
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and make better decisions.
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So up to now, I've told you about our single cell screening platform
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and sort of to recap that, it all starts with that immune response.
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And from that immune sample, we screen single B cells in isolation.
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We're looking for interesting binding signatures.
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And then we recover those B cells and analyze their amino acid sequence.
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And finally, we express the best candidates, characterize their properties,
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and validate their binding profile.
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But because the immune system can produce such a vast diversity of antibodies,
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screening even 500,000 cells isn't enough for a complete picture of the immune response.
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So in parallel with this single cell screening process,
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we can also sequence an even larger sample of the immune cells using a process
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called repertoire sequencing.
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And this gives us even more sequence data about what the immune system is doing
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and the sequences that are present in the sample.
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But it comes at a cost.
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We get much less information about each individual antibody.
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So the single cell process that's depicted in the top row and that I described in detail
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tells us exactly which heavy and light chains were paired together
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to form a particular antibody.
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But the repertoire sequencing process mixes all the heavy and light chains together
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so the sequences come to us unpaired.
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And it's also harder to look for a very specific binding profile using this technology.
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To deal with this, we use bioinformatics and machine learning techniques
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inspired by natural language processing to learn features from our single cell antibodies
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and find related sequences from the repertoire data.
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So here on the left, you can see an inferred lineage relationship between a single cell lead.
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This is our antibody of interest.
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It's highlighted in green.
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And then it's germline parent, which is above it.
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And that's a putative ancestor of this cell.
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And then some of its single cell descendants that also showed up in the assay,
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the single cell screening assay.
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But now on the right, what you see is a much deeper lineage tree,
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and it includes heavy chains obtained from repertoire sequencing.
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This same single cell heavy chain is still shown in green on the right-hand tree,
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but now it fits into a much richer set of the heavy chains obtained from the repertoire sequencing.
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And this helps us understand how the single cell hits we've isolated
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are fitting into the overall immune response,
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and to potentially identify even better candidate sequences.
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I can freely admit I'm not really following.
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So stepping back to the bigger picture of how ML fits into eCelera,
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I see it as much less of an end product than as a research and problem-solving tool.
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So here machine learning exists to support a never-ending stream
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of partner discovery projects and campaigns across the entire scientific pipeline.
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We're driving scientific research, so there's often a new twist on every project.
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One problem we definitely don't have is running out of our validation and test data.
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But what we do constantly worry about is whether our models will generalize into their next deployment.
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So we have to make fluid transitions between exploratory data analysis and machine learning
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to understand where we are and how we're doing.
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Our goal isn't just to automate specific processes or fine-tune models
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to improve metrics on canned pre-existing datasets.
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eCelera controls the entire discovery pipeline from immunization strategies,
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cell screening protocols, imaging equipment, mechatronics,
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protein expression, assay development, all of this.
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So we have a say in how the datasets are generated, what gets measured,
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and which processes can be improved.
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Something else about our team that's somewhat unique is that we operate across many different data scales.
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Some parts of our pipeline generate terabytes of data relatively cheaply,
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whereas other assays are so costly or slow that we only get a handful of data points to work with.
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So we have to be creative and make sure we can gracefully jump to the right scale.
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I want to spend just a minute recounting a story that everyone at eCelera is very proud to be part of.
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So in early 2020, as you all know, the COVID pandemic was starting to spread throughout the world,
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and this put our technology through a trial by fire.
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Within three days of receiving a sample from one of the first US patrons who had recovered from COVID-19,
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we had screened 5.8 million cells.
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And 23 days later, we had selected just 24 leads from those 5.8 million.
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And within 90 days, through a partnership with Eli Lilly, one of those antibodies was already in human clinical trials.
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Bam Lanovab has gone on to become the first potential treatment developed specifically for COVID-19,
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and it's approved in more than 10 countries and approximately 400,000 patients have been treated.
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It was a lot of work, and we're very proud of this accomplishment.
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I'm wondering if you were using just ML based models, or do you use a mixture of mechanistic or biochemical models?
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We have a huge range of models, and this is exactly the kind of question that we're exploring at eCelera.
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I can't talk about all the different kinds of models we're using, but we are trying to find what,
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and that is what our daily life at eCelera is like, is solving these kinds of research problems.
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So that's pretty extraordinary, because that's really the kind of bamboozlement that leads to a pandemic.
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It's really how they did it.
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It's how they sell stock, it's how they sell these bad ideas on the road.
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It's making promises that they can't keep, and as they said, forward-looking statements may not be accurate.
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And starting to talk with that, and then talking about this biology as if it's all but done,
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I have no doubt that there are uses for monoclonal antibodies.
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I have no doubt that there are ways that the immune system can be used in this way to produce therapies for things like cancer and other conditions,
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but I do not think we are anywhere near the stage where we can usefully augment the memory of the immune system.
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And this talk of doing that was, he started it in the beginning, but he didn't say a word about it afterward.
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And so I hope what you can see here really plain as day is that this is just a very multifaceted way of doing an end-around on the antibody-patent paradox,
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and the idea that antibodies, monoclonal antibodies in particular, have been patented in a way in the past that they can no longer be patented.
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And the entire sort of intellectual property space that is monoclonal antibodies has changed drastically in the past few years because of a recent Supreme Court ruling.
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And it's possible that that sort of momentum was known for a while because of previous rulings, including the one that Brett Weinstein's father set in on,
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that Mark has reported a number of times, Santa Corps versus somebody else.
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And so that's really a point where we are, where we can see a play, a play for one of the only things that does work for certain things.
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I'm still curious as to whether monoclonal antibodies really made any difference for people with COVID or whether the antibodies themselves can just ramp up an immune response in a way that is effectively useful for anybody that gets monoclonal antibodies.
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Because if there's no meaningful amount of virus in your blood, then monoclonal antibodies shouldn't in theory do anything.
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And so I'm still trying to figure out what's going on here too.
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I don't have all of the things working in my head, but I know for sure I heard Tad Hughes say that they have so many models and we can't talk about them.
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And the whole point of having models that aren't validated or having ideas that are patented first and validated later, this is all business.
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It's very different than biology.
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And a lot of the pandemic biology is based on business biology, like this talk, and not about real proven understood, you know, grassroots, not grassroots, but foundational immunology.
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So I think that's what we're really trying to work on here now.
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And I'm trying to build a new slide set that will more adequately describe the absolute state of where we are with understanding this and the kind of possibilities that are there from the worst case scenarios to the most ridiculous ones.
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But I think in general, it's a very good place to start for everybody from the perspective of if you've never heard this before.
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Or if you're trying to tell somebody something that they didn't expect to hear, you should start with the idea that algorithms and the NIH and the NIAID and DOD and everybody involved in the world public health space has had an impetus
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and a notion in their head that pandemics have potential and that potential can be found in mother nature.
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If you go looking for it, it can be extracted from mother nature using cell culture.
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It can be extracted from mother nature using animal passage and it can even be kind of woven together using genetic techniques to make viruses that maybe mother nature herself never would have come up with.
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And this combination of mythologies is being used to convince everybody that there's so much danger from a pandemic and that digital IDs make sense that mandatory vaccinations make sense and that health freedom is really a thing of the past.
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And they most importantly want our children to believe that. So that's why we really need to be outspoken and we need to act.
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We can't just wait for everybody else to fix. We can't wait for people to wake up. Everyone needs to wake up and you need to demonstrate that you're awake.
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And so you need to see this picture for what it is. The all-cause mortality is in light blue and that is the graph that they very rarely showed us.
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You can see this graph sometimes in the UK but in America they never showed it to us and more importantly they never showed us the change in the deaths due to pneumonia.
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And if you just look at this graph and see the middle color blue here on here on here on here the same number of people are dying of pneumonia.
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That's this line right here. And that same number of people dying of pneumonia also represents a huge number of people that are having pneumonia even going to the hospital with it and not dying.
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And so there is a huge potential for an increase in all-cause mortality due to pneumonia alone if you just change the way it's treated or prevent its treatment.
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And for quite some time now I have been arguing that that is one of the primary sources of this limited excess deaths.
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That signal was confirmed by Denny Rancor last year and the year before and shown that the all-cause mortality is not correlated with a spreading pathogen.
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It stops at borders and more importantly it's correlated with the income of the location.
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It can be also correlated with a geographic location. It doesn't cross state borders.
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It doesn't cross country borders. It's pathetic. It's the protocols.
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And the way that they did it was they changed those protocols with respect to pneumonia by using the implication of a novel virus and the idea that you could test for it if you had a test.
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And if you remember in 2020 we didn't have a test in America until March or April, maybe even April or May.
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And so a lot of the COVID that was actually in New York City was presumed COVID. Not tested COVID but presumed COVID.
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And so that's also a big problem ladies and gentlemen. A huge problem.
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And I think that the biology of RNA and the biology of RNA replication as it is drawn best by them means that a natural coronavirus swarm can sustain a pandemic and that's why we have never had one.
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That's why SARS burnt out. That's why mayors burnt out even when you make a clone and you release it in China even when you make a clone and you release it in the Middle East.
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It's not going to go anywhere. And the clone is a best case scenario.
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And that's something that I haven't really made very clear but a clone is the best case scenario for transmission because a clone is millions of copies of the RNA in complete form.
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Whereas any other form of the natural virus is a swarm, mostly in competent particles, hundreds of thousands of times more subgenomic RNAs than full genomes.
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And so if you don't have very full genomes and all of them are different and many of them are replication and competent.
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And then it's obvious that a natural swarm can't sustain a pandemic but if you released a clone in several places it would appear as though a pandemic was underway.
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And that high homology between all of those sequences would be your excuse and also would be the magic that would fool all of those molecular biologists around the world to believe there really was an ongoing pandemic.
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Because heretofore the identical RNA sequence of a virus has never been found simultaneously in multiple places in the world at the same time. Never.
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And so they're using this mythology to invert the rights and individual sovereignty of your children into basic granted permissions.
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They want you to carry an ID and ask for permission to go everywhere.
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And unfortunately we have been slow rolled into this narrative when a lot of these people could have woken up in 2020.
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Mostly didn't. Here at Fund in Bosch was nowhere to be found.
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Robert Malone was nowhere to be found.
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Brett Weinstein was wearing a bandana and isolating all through 2020.
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And pushing a drastic lab leak scenario very early on.
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So all of these individuals that we've been trying to investigate are responsible for this illusion of consensus that we have to find out where this virus came from.
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And that the virus did most of it is one of the things that people are still insistent of.
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And that's where you can just see the liars right away when they emphasize the virus still in 2023.
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I mean, give it a rest already.
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Whatever bio weapon was released in 2020 is not represented here now in 2023. That's just absurd.
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And the idea that they're still making that argument in light of all of the biology that we brought out on Giggle Home. It's just sad, really.
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If there's anything going on in the brain, if there's anything going on with amyloidosis or anything like that, it's going to be from transfection.
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Because transfection is the use of synthetic modified RNA to express foreign proteins in your body, and they can't control where it goes, as Peter Cullis told us the other night.
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And so that is a much better, much finer recipe for all of these protein misregulations than a released coronavirus circulating the world is.
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And least of all, because the released coronavirus could never have the fidelity to sustain and keep a hold of all these magic epitopes that supposedly are going around the world. It's just not possible.
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And all these people who say that it is can't produce any papers that show that it is.
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The only papers that are available are papers that make the exact argument that I'm making, which is incompetent fractions.
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It is a genetic swarm, and these two things result in a biology that is different than what they have portrayed on television over the last three years.
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But in order for them to get away with this, they needed to change the way we thought about all of this stuff.
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And they needed to change the way we think about the cause of respiratory disease.
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And they needed to completely bamboozle with us about all cause mortality in America. They never said once.
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That between 55 and 65,000 Americans are expected to die every week.
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They never made any reference to all cause mortality of being close to 3 million per year.
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And so even as they were inverting and substituting and driving up opioid deaths and blaming it all on COVID,
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they never took the time to frame these numbers in the context of all cause mortality because their intention was to make it seem like there was a novel cause of death.
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Something went from zero to a hundred.
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When in reality they were just swapping things around and there wasn't any change except for in the places where they were managing to convince hospitals to change their protocols and doctors to change their protocols.
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And so they ventilated people to prevent spread and killed many. They used remdesivir, medazolam, and they didn't treat pneumonia.
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It's very simple. Three pills were removed from the drawer and everything else was an illusion of consensus.
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All these people agreeing can fool you just like an ash conformity experiment.
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They have fooled us into trying to figure out whether it was a laboratory or a bad cave virus zoonosis.
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In these scenarios, lockdowns and emergency use authorizations caused some excess deaths, but the millions were killed by a novel virus.
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In these scenarios we've defeated epidemics in the past with vaccination.
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In this scenario, novel coronaviruses can jump species in pandemic.
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In this scenario, PCR false positives are very rare.
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Asymptomatic spread is real.
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And we spend money studying viruses, including gain of function experiments that can generate pandemic potential.
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This is the TV scenario one through three.
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The real scenario I believe is that there was a conflated background signal and what that conflated background signal was is not necessarily my job to find out,
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but it could have been the background signal of coronaviruses or whatever they are in reality if their exosomes or whatever.
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And it could also be the combination of that background signal could also be the RNA signals that are present naturally in our nasal passages all the time.
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And so they could be human sequences, bacterial sequences, fungal sequences, whatever.
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And as long as there's sufficient overlap with the sequence that they're looking for, with their primers, the N protein or the RNA,
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dependent RNA polymerase or whatever they say they're using for their, it's ultimately down to the primers.
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It's not about what it's aimed at.
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If they choose primers which are not exquisitely specific for the target gene and overlap with many of the other background,
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RNA and DNA that's known to be present in your nose or in your saliva, then a false positive is not a false positive.
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You're getting a positive and an amplicon is being amplified, but it's just not the target amplicon that they said it was.
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And so now very quickly you roll out a bunch of these things like we did in America.
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There were 250 different products called PCR tests, 250 products.
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I mean, think about that.
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And so it doesn't really matter.
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And I've said this a long time.
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It doesn't really matter whether it was a leak, a lease, a release.
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It's all lies.
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They've been lying about it.
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And once you realize that they're lying about it and you realize that the protocols were murder and transfection is in medicine,
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then how you divvy up this, the cause and effect here doesn't really matter if you know the protocols were murder.
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There's hardly anything left for a particular ravenous virus to do anything with.
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There's no reason to even have it in the story, quite honestly, because there was so much terrible things,
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so many terrible things done with regards to protocols and treatments.
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And so infectious clones released in Iran and Wuhan, sure, why not?
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A transfection agent released somewhere in Iran and Wuhan, sure, why not?
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Whatever you want to call it.
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But this isn't the right answer.
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And this probably is.
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That's really, I really think that's where we are.
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And again, I will keep saying this over and over again.
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Let's pay attention to what people talk about.
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If they're not all going back to the beginning and pointing out the depth and the breadth of the fraud that took place in
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2020 and early 2021 to assure that warp speed would result in lots of people being vaccinated right after
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Joe Biden was elected, then these people aren't being honest with you.
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If they're not looking into Jessica Hockett's data, they're not being honest with you.
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If they're not looking into Denny Rancour's data, they're not being honest with you.
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If they're not aware of the fact that the same thing that Jessica Hockett found in New York was also found in Italy,
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they're not being honest with you.
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If you haven't seen that what Jessica Hockett found in New York is almost so basically found in Chicago,
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then people aren't honest with you.
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If people aren't sharing the fact that the antibody patent paradox case actually occurred during the pandemic
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and that all of these companies that seem to be bypassing or are doing an end-around on the antibody patent paradox
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and that intellectual property space all have a really weird red thread of Robert Malone,
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including a lot of the Canadian companies, including the technology and interacting with some of these companies
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for many, many years, people aren't being honest with you.
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They're talking about something else, talking about something else and asking the wrong questions,
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tricking you into asking the wrong questions, and there aren't too many more questions to ask really.
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Except why haven't we stopped this train?
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And the reason why is because they want our data, yes they do, they would like us to put sensors in our skin
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and all this other stuff, and more importantly they want our kids to do it.
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Remember, I think this is a long game, it's for all the marbles and I don't think they need us to do it.
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I don't even know if they need us to be around before they do it.
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It could be that they're really aiming at my son's kids, your kids, kids.
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And it's that long of a plan, like a 50-year plan, it's not a 10-year plan or a 20-year plan.
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Oh, it's 8.30, I got to get out of here.
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Ladies and gentlemen, intramuscular injection of any combination of substances
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with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
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Transfection is not immunization.
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Please stop all transfections in humans.
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And I apologize for kind of an impromptu improvised stream here.
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I know I'm usually a little more organized, but I wanted to do something short,
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and then Mark gave me an extra half an hour, so I went a little longer than I should have.
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Make sure you follow Mark, make sure you go find him.
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He's on YouTube right now, I believe, so I might go look for that.
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I might go look for that link and drop it in right here.
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See how I can find it.
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There we go.
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There it is.
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I'll be over here in a little while.
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Thanks, guys, for joining me.
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Yep, thanks very much for joining me, everybody, and I will see you again tomorrow for another show.
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Hopefully my voice will still sound okay.
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What was that?
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Oh, that's him, he's starting.
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Oh, see you guys.
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Take care.
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Make sure you go over to Mark.
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Go over to Mark's show, say hi to him for me.
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Let's see if we can get his viewers up to 100 before he goes to sleep.
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Thanks for joining me, guys, I'll see you tomorrow.