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Watching here for some registration that everything is working there we go

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I see somebody in the chat great give me a second here is this okay two three

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does that look okay give me some kind of sound check ladies and gentlemen

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Professor Binder is tomorrow tomorrow at the same time tomorrow yes tomorrow

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tomorrow is Thomas Binder good good good here we go here we go here we go

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don't forget to register at broken science dot org five by five good to see

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Andy

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don't forget you can go and watch it at stream dot giga home dot bio you'll be

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about 30 seconds behind which means technically speaking it won't be news

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anymore but it would be great if somebody would at least check to see if

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it's working there I should also be available now on YouTube and I'd

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rumble if anybody wants to go do that and you know get a star from the teacher

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that would be a worst case

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yeah I missed that yesterday I was so I was so annoyed that I didn't see that I

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got the email of course and I just totally spaced I missed Mr. Sparkles and

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that was a it was probably a good chat if you got notes on what he asked feel

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free to send them to me in the chatter in an email because I wouldn't mind

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knowing I can probably find that video but it won't be upright away that's the

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problem I think truth is good for kids we're so busy lying we don't even

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recognize the truth no more than society we want everybody to feel good

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that's not that's not the way life is but you can tell if someone's lying you

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know you can sort of feel it and people and I have lied I'm sure I'll lie again

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I don't want to lie you know I don't think I'm a liar I try not to be a liar I

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don't want to be a liar I think it's like really important not to be a liar

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I have no responsibility for the current pandemic stop lying

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hmm if that is happening and more people notice that let me know and I'll get to

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Emily and see what's up with that this is so crazy I feel so nervous like what

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you know what happened there didn't have that queued up correctly somehow

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don't try to fool around with the colors a little bit see if the slides

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become a little more visible for our mobile humanoids people looking on

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smaller screens need a little more contrast so I have been advised that

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maybe we should try something different some tweaking things a little bit hopefully

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I won't hurt anyone's eyes if you can follow me for a while you're here at the

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top of the way where we are staying focused on the biology we are definitely

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not taking debate on TV and social media and we are certainly loving our

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neighbors the way this works is that there are some very generous people who

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have decided to subscribe to my sub stack or to my website have just

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donated money some people have even sent checks and this just keeps the the meal

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turning and a lot of people a lot of people like Suf spider and other spend

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time sharing my work Pamela shares my work and it really gets far and that's

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how this thing works we are based at GigaOMbiological.com but we have kind of

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spread out now a little bit we have this new thing going that's based at GigaOM.bio

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and stream.gigaOM.bio and those are our federated sort of our own versions of

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social media without all the algorithms it's just us as a little group we are

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now on four street or four places simultaneously and we have everything

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just a little bit more organized so that it's good and easy for people to

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help that want to help and those that have taken that step already are listed

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here some of these people to get listed first are there because they've made a

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donation or sent a check and not subscribed and I don't I don't want to

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leave anybody out of this the only people that I can't really list are on my

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sub stack the people that subscribe to that sub stack is a weird thing like

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that I'm gonna look into it I don't know if everybody on sub stack wants to be

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listed and when you subscribe on the website I can just kind of assume you

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don't mind your name being here and if you did you would say it in an email some

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people have and they're they're listed as pseudonyms or they're listed as funny

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names or just initials because this is the independent bright web we don't

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have corporate sponsors we aren't taking money from anybody but people that are

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parents teachers plumbers what have you and I just got to check this to see

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what the heck this is I think this video is gonna stop for a second and I'm gonna

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close this because I don't think okay that's great I am happy about that okay

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here we go go back to this series set I had to check that email I apologize yeah

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this is the independent bright web it's funded by people like you I am

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literally just a guy in the back of his garage in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania rents

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his house from one of these these weird organizations that's you know loosely

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it's like an LLC and it's tied to a couple big piles of money that of course

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ultimately are just praying on the change and mortgage rates and the low

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rates that were around you know when was it even a year ago you could still get

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a mortgage for zero this whole illusion is sustained through your active

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participation if you believe that this is just a bunch of random processes that

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determines the fact that these prices are going up if you think that all this

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stuff that's happening in Ukraine is total chaos and we're just trying to

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respond to it that I'm afraid you are part of this you know entrapped you are

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entrapped in this idea that the truth is available on television that the truth

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is available on social media as long as you skillfully use television as long

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as you skillfully used social media you can get at the truth is the fundamental

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illusion it's the fundamental illusion that they don't want us to they don't

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want us to dispel and unfortunately for me in order for this illusion to really

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crack it didn't it didn't even really crack during 9-11 and after even though

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I was definitely aware of the fact that whatever was told to us in the mainstream

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media whatever they agreed upon on talk shows was not what happened who they

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said was behind it was not who was behind it but it still didn't dawn on me

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that this was actually a a collective limited spectrum of reality basically

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that that is wholly constructed by a group of people that agree on the story

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and if you have a group of people that agree on the story and study it and

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understand it but then also as Karl Rove said intimately understand their

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role in crafting it in the first place I think Karl Rove I don't have the quote

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but Karl Rove sorry this is Giga oh and biological a high-resistance low noise

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information stream brought to you by a biologist my name is Jonathan Cooey

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you're coming to you live from Pittsburgh Pennsylvania at 124 in the

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afternoon I'm gonna try and come to you more often in the afternoon because it

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gives me more time where I am least committed to my family and most able to

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spend as much time and energy on this and at the same time take at least away

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from my family which right now as you can probably imagine is in need of of

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both parents as we we I don't know canoe through this these rapids it is I always

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a place to start when I say I'm human just like you I wore my old hat today

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that I used to wear all the time in Norway and I was actually a picture that

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I use a lot that's going around where I'm wearing a it's a alpine low or

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something like that fleece but it's black and it's this hat I'm making like

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Mr. Burns hands and I've used that a lot because it's one of these things it was

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on a website in Norway and it's it's a picture that was taken on a white

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background by some photographer right before the Moses won the Nobel Prize

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they were thinking already that they might win it and so they were already

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the Institute was already you know getting their act together on the website

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and and you know doing the things you do when you're becoming a very successful

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Institute like they were anyway long story short I wore this hat because I

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found it while I was cleaning stuff up and I thought it was funny and I didn't

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take it off I apologize so this way out biology yes and we are I guess this is

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just going to be a thing where we're going to try and we're going to try and

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broadcast as often as we can as long as we have something useful to say I think

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on Wednesdays or on Thursdays depending on how we we manage the schedule tomorrow

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I have the honor of interviewing Dr. Thomas Binder from Switzerland many of

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you will know him from social media as a early outspoken critic of the whole

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concept of a pandemic he's a cardiologist and maybe even a respiratory

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physiologist over there and I think that's going to be really fun and so

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depending on when we have interviews when I can schedule them Wednesday or

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Thursday I'm going to try and go use one day to go back in time look at an old

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video and see if we can see how clearly it is that they have been laying down

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this narrative of possibility laying down this concept of pandemic potential

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that's never really manifest and in fact in all the examples that they use that

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purport to show us this potential these are absolute opposite they're the

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example of the exact opposite where despite the expectations you know it

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doesn't really go that far and it does hurt people but whatever these

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phenomenon are it is not something that yeah that requires much how can I say

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it it doesn't require much substantiation so long as these five people on the

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panel all agree that that is a danger and that we don't have to debate it and

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instead we should ask these questions about that assumption and that is the

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trick that I've been trying to convey with this idea that we have been tricked

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into solving a mystery we've been made to feel as though we are sleuths solving

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a mystery on coming to understand it ourselves despite what the ruling

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class would like us to know despite what the ruling class would like us to think

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we've figured it out that they covered it up and I've been trying to explain

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that as a as a very I think useful technique for understanding or a useful

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analogy for understanding how it is that they got all of us on the red side and

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on the blue side on the labor and on the Tories or whatever it is whatever country

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you're in these what should be arguing factions have sort of come together to

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accept the fact that there was a novel virus that appeared in 2020 that was

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really a mystery as to where it came from and I think that the sort of 50 50 or

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51 49 consensus is that it probably came from a lab and it's not controversial on

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either side of the debate to have that opinion and that's where you need to

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really rub your chin and be like okay so how did we get here again and and and

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assume that it's by design because that is how we are being governed and once

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you see it that way and you understand that all of these people are in on it

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then by the pretense itself once you are you know this is my control group badge

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but if let's say you know okay here you go Jonathan here's your badge and now

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that you have this and you're in on the little secret you know like on the

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Simpsons where you get the the car you park underneath the parking garage and

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it's super nice and you take an elevator somewhere else and all this other stuff

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what were they called the the it was not the Freemasons but it was what were they

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called does somebody know when you know and you type it into the chat I'm gonna

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be very angry and happy at you at the same time the stonemasons that's what

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they were called anyway and you didn't get it in the chat in time or he once you

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get in is sort of involved in this stone cutters oh we got it oh dang it

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that's right so once you got involved or once you get involved and if it's in

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the national security way or I don't know it's a secret society I don't give a

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darn what it is there could be lots of different schemes by which they make

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people really believe they are members of a club and once you believe like I

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think Mandy of the CDC believes that she is a member of a club you will you

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will spout lies confidently knowing that all those people back there are gonna

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back you and it's all because you've been made to believe that the badge that

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you've been given or the you know the position that you've been given the

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business cards you've been given the meetings you've been in the hands you've

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shaken you believe that and by all means I am arguing that our bureaucracy is

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controlled by people who are either simple enough or are complacent enough

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or are willing to toe this you know look away doctrine where you don't know what's

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happening over there and it doesn't matter because you know it's for the

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greater good you know they the ends justify the means and that's how they

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do it some people need a badge some people need rank some people need I don't

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know I guess psychedelics in a podcast some people need I don't know but we are

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being manipulated by this mechanism and this mechanism is not simple it is made

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up of people people that are willing to coordinatedly create the illusion of

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reality that is useful to their people above them and even if they are you

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know all they did was agree to talk about bears and nothing else let's just say

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that for example let's just pull that out of nowhere and say that somebody from

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2021 until basically now whenever they make an appearance they don't talk about

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much else other than bears there's sort of an invited expert on bears and then

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you have another person who since about 2021 has only been talking about Ivermectin

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and nothing else then you have another one since 2021 is really only been talking

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about the mRNA technology and the shot and then you have somebody else since

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2021 that's only been talking about hydroxychloroquine and then you have

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another person and so none of those people are able to integrate across the

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whole story none of those people are talking about protocols being particularly

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deadly or raising all cause mortality in a way that might confuse some people

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nobody's talking about what the financial incentives to call anything

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covid did including you know the protocols stick to it and there's no

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malpractice what what in the world can you conclude from that pattern other

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than to say that we are being controlled and manipulated by these people who are

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very carefully not questioning the cardinal narrative of a novel virus that

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killed millions that millions more were saved from the likely kind of game from

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function came from gain of function and will come again it has to be it's the

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only real logical conclusion to come to otherwise all of these people would

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eventually sing in harmony instead of forming these kind of spontaneous

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rivalries that don't really matter because their rivalries that don't

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question the cardinal you know the the main idea that they are trying to entrap

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our children with this mythology of a novel virus that was on somebody's shoe

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as they walked out of the laboratory and then they went to a wet market it got

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in a puddle underneath the raccoon dogs cage which was then butchered and sold

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distributed as meat on the street and then all these people got sick and then

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it went boom all around the world on an airplane traveling thing for New

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Year's

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I think these people were put in place before the pandemic and it frustrates me

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a lot that I can't adequately convey how important that is to understand because

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it it it so nicely expands the scope already of the operation to understand

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how long these people have known that something was going to happen how long

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they have known maybe not something was going to happen but they were already

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involved in the things that were happening they were already thinking

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like Karl Rove thinks which is you have to understand that we create history and

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then you you know study it you study what we did you try to figure out what we

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did and why we did and that's that's historians discovering history but we

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are history that's what something like that Karl Rove said and I think that

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that's what these people believe and it sounds crazy but that's the reason why

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the press secretary of the United States president right now can go on the

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camera and say that she herself is a historic figure and I think that's

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really where you see how we've all because so much of how we think of our

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place in the world rather than with humility and reverence we we we think

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of ourselves as primal or or whatever the right word is you know central

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everything orbits around around us and that creates a very different kind of

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society that is very much more chaotic and unmoored than anything that any any

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religion crazy or not would create in my imagination we're really we're really

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at the precipice here where for some reason we don't understand that this

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car is careening out of control some people just seem to think that everything is

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fine and it's definitely not and COVID really brought that into focus no one

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can exercise informed consent anymore because very few people can adequately

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describe reality and why they object to you know this going forward because

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their description the description of reality that they would that they would

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recite would be pretty far off from what reality actually is think about the

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average persons right now the skilled TV watcher the skilled social media

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user never followed or even heard of this movement of people that just

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thinks anti-vaxxers are crazy and that's really all they've ever thought about

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think about what their model of disease in the world is think about what their

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model of why they have to wash their hands is think about their model of it's

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spectacular think about that little girl on the on the on the couch right

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here those how many of those people do you see when you go to Costco how many

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of those people do you see when you go to Giant Eagle how many of those people do

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you see when you go to H.E.B. that are just absolutely scientific questions I

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think are very hard to get a handle on and the reason for this is that in late

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modernity which we're living in there's simply too much knowledge for any

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individual human to understand and so you know and so the the and so in this

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world of extreme hyperspecialization where it's narrower and narrower

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subsets of experts policing themselves and talking about how great they are

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the string theorists talking about how great string theory is the cancer

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researchers talking about how they're just about to cure cancer the quantum

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computer researchers are just about to build you know quantum computer there

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will be a massive breakthrough and then if you were to say that all these fields

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not much is happening people just don't have the authority for this and this is

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somehow a very different feel for science or knowledge than you would have

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had in 1800 or even in 1900 you know 1800 Goethe could still understand just

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about everything where 1900 Hilbert could still understand just about all of

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mathematics and and so the sort of the sort of specialization I think has

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made it a much harder question to get a handle on now one of the things I would

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like to drop in here sorry is that yesterday when I was talking to Matt

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Briggs I wasn't I didn't get to this slide but I had it queued up and I kind

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of just got into the conversation a little too much to I didn't have a real

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plan on a no-card which maybe I should have had but I kind of thought I was

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going to go back to the slide set and I didn't I think it was because I

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chickened out on the timing I wanted it to be you know recorded long enough so

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I made a little mistake there because this this little piece with Peter Thiel

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is so cool it's so important to see it because what he's saying here is both

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truthful and disingenuous at the same time it's disingenuous because of the

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words he chooses but if you understand what I think is the truth then you can

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hear the truth in what he says and so you know given that they could have a

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reflective conversation after this where it could be clarified or that they had

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a reflective conversation before this before they had this meeting then when

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they speak of things like knowledge it will be really easy to hear this for

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what it is he's he's bamboozling the the skilled social media user who thinks

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that knowledge is knowledge and when he says hyperspecialization creates all

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this knowledge and then we can't understand because there's too many

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specialties it just it makes perfect sense to the gas station attendant it

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makes perfect sense to the to the high schooler that's that's working at at

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Wendy's before they go off to college next year and they think wow I really

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understand this guy and this makes perfect sense but to the to the stone

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cutters in the audience they could actually hear this to a stone cutter they

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hear wow so he's just admitting that that what we do in academia is is we

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foist all of these untested unproven models that have never been verified

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onto people so that they're absolutely juggling models of reality in every

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little corner of their world and by taking knowledge and dividing it into

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ever smaller academic fields we have been able to take reality of people and

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essentially replace all of what might be common sensical interpretation of

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reality with untested unverified models which purport to recapitulate

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reality but actually don't and leave you vulnerable for misinterpreting what's

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going on and more importantly not understanding at all what's really

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happening and I think that's where we are I think that's why there are many

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people in academia who are still savable because they probably have felt

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this their whole career this extreme incongruence between the way that

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funding is doled out the way that grant applications are evaluated the way

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that that no hypotheses are used to create the illusion of progress and

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understanding the way that significance is used as a substitution for for

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verification and now I'm just starting to work with this toolkit so I'm gonna

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make some mistakes but I do think that conceptually speaking I've got a pretty

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good handle on where we're gonna try and go with this and it I think it's a

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really really good goal to trying to get young high school kids to understand

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this fundamental reasoning problem that has plagued academic science for many

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decades now and when abused when used disingenuously or used irresponsibly or

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ignorantly so that means you might not know that you you've been a part of this

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machine you might be like me and at least in retrospect I don't think we did

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terrible science the trouble is is that we were still very much trying to

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understand a very complex thing and trying to keep up with people who were

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doing this stuff and so I have a model in my paper but the model does explain the

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pattern and make predictions that have so far come true so that's also

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interesting right it does it does suggest that that there is science out

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there to be found which legitimately purports to test a model use a model to

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make predictions that are then tested by making measurements and and that I

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think is is what we might see as the goal with this stream is to identify you

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know science that does that and maybe more importantly use the science that

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doesn't as examples and throw these examples out there weekly so that we can

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see these papers for what they are we can identify what is the model that

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they're playing with what is the model that the question purports so that's

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something that I was writing down earlier and that is by accepting their

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questions as relevant we unconsciously assume the models made implicit by the

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question does that make sense by accepting their questions as relevant we

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unconsciously assume the models made implicit by the question so if you do

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it right the enchantment works really well basically you ask a question and by

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the person listening taking that question as being valuable then the model of

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reality implied by the question is accepted by the person who thinks about

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the question that's how I'm envisioning I'm imagining that this enchantment goes

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and so I'm I haven't gotten to the point where I got a lot of great examples but

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where did this virus come from is a question that when you start answering

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it in your head your brain already has to build the cognitive infrastructure if

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you will that will support the reality where there is a virus and it came from

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somewhere and then if you're also supplied with reasonable possibilities

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then those also fall neatly into the little cognitive model that your brain

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automatically makes in order to understand the question and that's what I

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think is really cool about this little idea here where did the virus come from

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what is the model is implied well the model that's implied is pandemic

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potential it's gain a function potential it's viral spread its viruses are

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dangerous I still have a call but it's mostly because I'm not drinking I'm

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just talking talking so think of it this way what question could we formulate in

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order to imply the model that autism is genetic like a question like what

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genes can be correlated with autism might already imply that autism is

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caused by genes and so if you put out a grant call that says what genes can be

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correlated with autism or we are looking for trying to identify genes

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something like that here already by getting those academic scientists to

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process that question and to produce you know a whole grant proposal based on

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that question you have already gotten them they have to cognitively they must

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assume this this basic model and that is they have to consider okay so if it's

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if it's genetic then how am I gonna go about figuring that out see that's the

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whole point and so the magic is not what they tell you it's the magic of what

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they get you to ask and Mark has said this really well from the opposite side

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which is also why this clicked so well in my head just now is that Mark has

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often said they get us to ask the wrong questions and that's what's the beauty

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of it when you ask the wrong questions and what do you do you actually

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subconsciously you accept the model of reality that is implicit in the

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question what gender is my child there it is it's implicit in the question oh

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my gosh do you see it and so if you play along with that then you've

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automatically accepted that model of reality and that model is what gets gets

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foisted on you when somebody gets you to ask the right question I know it's

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nothing more than narrative shaping but it's narrative shaping not by telling

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you stories like like this guy's talking it's by getting tricking us into

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asking the wrong questions and that's magic I think it's really cool I'm sorry

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but you can tell and they do it with lying you know you can sort of feel it

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in people and I have lied I'm sure I'll lie again I don't want to lie you know

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I don't think I'm a liar I try not to be a liar I don't want to be a liar and so

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now listen to the second part of Peter Thiel's statement right the political

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cut I have on the specialization is always that that if you analyze the

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politics of science the specialization should make you suspicious it should

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because it's gotten harder to evaluate what's going on and it's presumably got

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an easier for people to lie and to exaggerate and then one should be you

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know a little bit suspicious and that's that's that's sort of my starting my

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starting bias and so there he just says it right out flat he just says that you

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can lie because the specialization allows it and there's no incentive to call

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people out on it the incentive is to be nice the incentive is to let everybody

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have their own little model of reality that they get to test out into you know

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nicotinic acetylcholine receptors are important for attention and so then the

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whole model of attention is wherever acetylcholine receptors are then that

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must be where we have to study them because they're involved in attention

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because people pay attention better when they smoke cigarettes and nicotine

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stimulates acetylcholine receptors think about that that's not a terrible model

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of how how attention could be regulated in part by acetylcholine but once you

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start spinning that wheel and always grabbing it on those those three

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handholds that have it becomes unbreakable that that no hypothesis is

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always the same straw man as as Matt Briggs described it yesterday which no

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one ever described it to me as before but it is and if somebody had told me that

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a long time ago I think formulating grant proposals would have been a lot

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easier for me unfortunately but I still had this idea that the no hypothesis had

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to be some useful already understood thing that you were trying to change

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into the new thing yeah it's tough it's it's a real interesting place that

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we're in and I do think that one of the the key ways to to formulate this in a

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nutshell oops I wanted to do this and this was supposed to be off did you see

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that I can put that chat up there now Jessica was in there last night and it

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was up there is anybody on there now can anybody chat now yay got my star for

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the day is that you okay good that's great so I do think these are a good way

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to start I do think these things still really are some succinct ways of getting

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people to think about them in the right way ask the biggest questions that they

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can ask because the spread I have bad ideas has always been scarier than the

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spread of any RNA molecule tonight today

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I have this little thing here we are gonna do a way back movie this afternoon I

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think it's two o'clock I think I've got time I don't have to go to basketball

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till four and I'm calling it way back Wednesday because it's Wednesday and it

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would be normally throwback Thursday or something like that so we're calling

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it way back Wednesday and I'm gonna escape out of here and I'm gonna put this up

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wait where did it go oh I didn't turn hold on one second

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that's it great and I gotta set it up hold on I thought I had this already

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queued up my bad but I think I know what's it at 1.39 perfect here we go

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pause it sorry Goofy's my fault here comes see me oh no you don't see me there

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you see me here we go this is a movie that was on CNN in 2017 believe it or

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not 2017 I'm running it at 1.4 speed in case anybody has any trouble with it I

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apologize we can't possibly watch it at regular speed it's an hour and 37 minutes

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if I'm gonna stop it at all we'll be there too long thank you very much for

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joining me 62 humans plus more I guess on other platforms fingers crossed I just

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don't want to open all of those other things I don't have my my sidekicks here

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anybody to help me let me go full-screen with this

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they signed Jacob does a health warning following a worldwide outbreak of a

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mysterious form of pneumonia you can take just virus cells kill me I'm gonna

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figure out how to get those chats to come over here I just haven't gotten to it

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there's a couple different ways to do it but I haven't figured it out

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promise I'm working out of the H1N1 swine flu outbreak spread widely and cannot

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be contained in the pandemic must be taken seriously a big outbreak of a deadly

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Ebola virus has killed all the Ebola outbreak that started the West African

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country of Guinea has now spread people know nothing there's no kill they don't

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have the resources to actually do that for life governments around the world

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they're considering new measures happening from the New York City health

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department temperature reading from last night the U.S. Department of Agriculture

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confirmed another case of bird flu one and a half million state turkeys have

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been killed to prevent the spread of it is really critical that being controlled

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you have to respond to the challenge three latest victims of the new respiratory

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virus called MERS have come from Middle Eastern countries they believe it

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originated in bats or camel causes pneumonia and rapid kidney failure as a

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Zika virus continues to affect people across the globe

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the unseen enemy wow nice I forgot that that was the name of it it just

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is stored in 2017 CNN hard drive you can almost hear the biological chatter

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ha it's like a low-run job in science we're supposed to make a safer we suddenly

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seem more vulnerable to outbreaks

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but we like it or not I will this globalizing okay maybe I'll slowly true for

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markets and for production but it's also true for behaviors for diseases so

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because of our mobility secondly we are far more people and we're also living

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more and more in very crowded cities that's fantastic from the perspective of

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a virus because in no time it can infect hundreds of thousands of people over

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the last three decades they've been about 30 newly emerging diseases that have the

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potential to 30 times you've heard nothing it's not a matter if there will be

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what look at that did you see who that is it can infect hundreds of thousands of

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people

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over the last three decades have been about 30 newly emerging diseases that have

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the potential to be pandemics who's that guy Larry brilliant epidemiologist the

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hell is that all about wait till you see this I'm just gonna do Larry brilliant

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on you on Wikipedia watch this you know who he is anyone you're not gonna

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believe it if you don't know it's pretty impressive here it comes

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no don't do that goofy stuff he is an American epidemiologist technologist

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philanthropist and author who worked with their huge World Health Organization

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from 73 to 76 to help sell successfully eradicate smallpox he's a patent

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holder and was the inaugural director of google.org the charitable arm of

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Google he's related to the school foundation which is one of the primary

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funders of the UPS news hour I mean it's just extraordinary down here you will

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see that he said after the swine flew outbreak in 2011 that's the one that

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that Mark von Rancz from the from Belgium oversaw and then gave a

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presentation about the Chatham House that I've shown a couple times expressed

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concern that the public was not suitably concerned by the threat posed by

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infectious diseases this led brilliant and several colleagues contributing to

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the creation of the film contagion and then he gave a commencement speech at

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the Harvard School of Public Health I mean are you kidding me that's the guy

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who made a movie in 2017 as an epidemiologist

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yeah on CNN okay it's not a matter if there will be a global pandemic

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matter when and which virus and how bad the world changes around us at

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increasing speed we cause a lot of that change migrating to cities stripping

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the earth of its resources and altering primeval jungle we are seeing whole

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entire ecologies is this you can see with your eye and that which you can only see

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with a microscope one system after another oh Gary look at that oh my gosh

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she's been there for so long for its opportunities for viruses and bacteria

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to seek out new home do you remember how important she was on Twitter in 2020

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like this lady was out there early on spokesperson extraordinaire almost as

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mouthy as the person who moved from Georgetown to Saskatchewan named this

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was oh my gosh a rasmus or whatever wow almost caused new havoc including

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disease for human beings when contagion happens life alters in an

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instant Daniel Hayes I actually believe that the Revolutionary War was not one

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by us and that we didn't actually escape I don't I don't I think that's

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actually probably true and yeah I I don't know I I think at this stage we

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just have to assume that we don't know anything about about real history I

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mean you know I just think you have to assume that we don't feel safe we lose

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trust

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fear spreads very quickly when you have an infectious disease outbreak

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communication is so much more pervasive people know what's happening in another

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part of the world so much more quickly so much more vividly than ever before so

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the contagion of fear moves faster than the contagion of the pathogen the

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disease itself and the fabric of society starts to deteriorate so what are they

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doing there are they saying that that's what they want to happen or that's

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what happens because when SARS was released and went around the world and

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infected 10,000 people and I guess killed 700 it didn't tear the fabric of

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society mirrors didn't tear the fabric of society did polio tear the fabric of

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society back in the 50s I don't think it did especially since we definitely

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know that DDT was being used back then but nobody blamed that for anything I

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mean it's just bizarre right it's bizarre how when you look back on it how

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can you not see this as propaganda this is not this is not us a film trying to

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inform you about objective truths about nature even the music choice belies its

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motives there's something that destroys the soul of a community

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that happens when an epidemic is out of control it's not just the large number

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of casualties in the death which are itself unthinkable but it's what it does

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to us the social fabric of this is still Larry Brilliant driving around his car

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telling stories we're in the car with Larry Brilliant and he's telling us

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stories about what pandemics do to people is that weird or not how did I

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choose that so well holy weird-owness the war lasted for 14 years I think this

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is an Ebola doctor remember vividly everything I saw

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sometimes you're playing at night when the place is dark you can see this

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blood flying like boats of lightning across this car you physically see them

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my father will bundle all of us up and we hear the opposite direction so he's

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confusing war with no disease I come from this way because you hear the sound

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coming and you see the soldiers going that way to go and fight it so you know

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you have to go the other way so they're gonna confuse war and now look at Ebola

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so how you want to protect yourself you have an enemy you cannot hide from you

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cannot run from Ebola how come you never get it there where you want to go who

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are you gonna run talk is it really so easy to approach Ebola you know like

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just drive up and put some plastic on for a while and then take it off and you

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don't get Ebola I mean I know it's supposed to be something different

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Ebola is transmitted to what it affluence bodily fluids okay I got you

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this is an invisible Ebola first surfaced in West Africa in a remote rural

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community but in our increasingly connected world this is Morgan Freeman

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stay in the countryside the virus quickly found its way this voice is like a low

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rent Morgan Freeman it's so weird into the region's largest cities and health

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systems that were completely unprepared I mean if I slowed it down to normal

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speed it would be Morgan Freeman like a cheap version I got you there from

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air school two years ago the reason why I'm here is by default because I was the

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only one available nice boy these these bio-engineered viral particles are

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pretty dangerous and I got one day training to get prepared for this

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so you don't have to worry use your mission on August I want to end the

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following morning your ambulances line up out of gifts and we potato true we're

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not prepared before we then knew it we're already overwhelmed with so many

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patients you should give me that or that impression I was in Hades because

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it was a mixture structure the patients are vomiting leading and having

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diarrhea on the floor and Morgan will see two three brothers I've already died

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and the bodies are still there that would they remove her now one thing I find

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interesting and I again what I'm what I want to start doing as an exercise in a

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way of focusing and being objective is to ask this question out loud what model

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of reality are they are they foisting on us here and the model of reality that

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they seem to be foisting on us is that if you get Ebola it is devastating but

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it's transmitted through bodily fluids so I guess they're vomiting on the floor

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and stuff and so that vomit must have virus in it right and so it should be

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relatively abundant in these patients and relatively abundant in their fluids

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and therefore it should be quite easy to isolate to characterize yada yada yada

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yet they never do it and this is the objection that these that these these

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people that go all the way back to those that question the AIDS virus and the

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the sort of narrative around that it's the same skepticism that applies here and it is

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justified skepticism you just have to be aware of that and think about it about

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the model that they're implying here so that you see where the skepticism comes

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from and why it is is pretty well founded

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now again don't get me wrong I'm not saying that there isn't an Ebola I'm

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saying that it is likely that it didn't come from the bush meat that these

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people ate or were exposed to that's not how it works Ebola might very well be

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something that was was made manufactured cloned from the wild and then deployed

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in the same place that they found it to see what it does

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there's a million different explanations for it that don't involve some kind of

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spectacular magic of a RNA virus that replicates with high fidelity and

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and people just barely escape from having everybody you know

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the story they will tell you is that airborne Ebola is the most

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dangerous idea in the world and that if airborne Ebola was to get on an

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airplane in land in New York City we would have a disaster

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why do they tell that story why have they been telling that story

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I would kind of at this point come to a reasonable conclusion that the reason

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why they've been telling us that story specifically using New York

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as an example is because they were planning to use New York as an

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example and Jessica Hockett is is on it like a

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hot knife through butter it's it's impossible not to see it

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if you just look and then if you if you line up all the narratives that they've

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told us before all the stories that they've told it's kind of weird right that

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every time they bring up Ebola and then they talk about airborne Ebola

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they talk about airborne Ebola in New York City

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and how many people have you heard say that I've heard quite a few people

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tell that exact exact set of hypotheticals in three days time

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the entire unit was full meanwhile there was two patients within

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outside again and they are begging every time we go to

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the get their begging to come in there's a serious situation

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we have 35 best they already have some of the one patients on the one

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you don't have beds for you facing a group of people see that

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that I'm totally down with I'm very down with the idea that this

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could be an energy weapon or deployment of some other

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toxin because again what are they doing they're

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treating these patients they're not testing and characterizing and

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culturing the virus and trying to see if they're related to each other

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none of that's happening here you can see that right that's very clear

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right these people could be could have been sprayed with or

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exposed to anything and they're being treated like they have Ebola

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their symptoms are similar trying to give them fluids antibiotics and other

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medicines

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and then it never ends and it never ends what

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as you are walking out a new patient is walking in

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and then when you go home and come back the following morning

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they're selling it there for a night

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what is the model of reality being implied here

54:44.460 --> 54:47.900
keep asking that question

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I think we all underestimate it absolutely everybody

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I know that one case of Ebola is an emergency

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every new case can give rise to more cases so it's really act now okay later

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right now the World Health Organization and other doctors are saying it is out

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of control so I do think that the the model of Ebola that's being implied

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here is that Ebola has the potential to sustain itself

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indefinitely and to circulate around the globe and it's only because

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of a very firm and controlling response

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that quarantines these people and gets them out of their villages and stops

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the spread of the virus has that been so far avoided but

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if that should happen that this is something that will kill

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lots and lots of people that's what's being implied here and make no

55:42.780 --> 55:46.220
mistake about it they have not shown you any evidence for that they haven't even

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shown you evidence of it spreading anywhere

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they just showing you a bunch of sick people and telling you that there's

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more and there's more and there's more sick people so you could do that with

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more and more deployment of something too

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and so we've got to be very very careful here because we are being played

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and we have to be very skeptical of the biology that we are being played with

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I think this is one of the key one of the key angles that they use

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mythology to to control us with in this area of West Africa is the worst

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outbreak ever that they've recorded in this part of the world it's unprecedented

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for several reasons one first time in West Africa that we have such an outbreak

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secondly it is the first time that three countries are involved this is a Dutch

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man you can hear it is accent I just say that because there is a

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there is an interesting subculture of extremely rich right that we're

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talking about here and there is a natalone's

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connection there why is there a natalone's connection there because

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the Dutch East Indies company was one of the first

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weaponized piles of money and if you imagine the possibility that that

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or descendants of it still exist and descendants of those families that

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controlled those weaponized piles of money still exist

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that's I believe what we're dealing with I don't know how many people or families

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it is but we're talking about you just have to

57:25.420 --> 57:29.100
imagine if you had a lot of money back then

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and you were able to continue as like have a linked bloodline how much money

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would you have now

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that's what we're dealing with multi-generational wealth that is

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basically completely under our radar as we have paid attention to Coca-Cola

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and Walt Disney and that multi-generational wealth is now

57:53.980 --> 57:58.220
as always competing for the control of the world but now

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since the the theater is out in the open

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since really anybody that's paying attention can figure out that Ukraine

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isn't Ukraine and that Biden isn't Biden and the Trump isn't Trump and that

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you know nobody is who they say they are if they're on TV

58:16.860 --> 58:22.460
and they're they're all players

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wrangling for increased ranked inside of this ruling class

58:29.500 --> 58:33.660
once you realize that and we realize that you are not in that club and that's

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why these people act so smug because they know they've got the badge

58:37.900 --> 58:43.340
they've got the badge it's under their coat or it's it's in their pocket

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the little challenge coin or whatever it is they were given

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their little Freemason ring their their tattoo I don't know

58:50.700 --> 58:55.340
maybe it's different for every group but whatever it is they all know they've

58:55.340 --> 59:00.300
got a position on the hypothetical arc or a position in a bunker somewhere

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whatever it is they've been told imagine how powerful it would be

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if you took somebody to a elaborate underground base and said look there's

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your name on the door if you join us if you do what you're told at least you

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when the stuff really goes down you've got a place with us here

59:22.700 --> 59:26.140
and then two weeks later they bring another dude downstairs and put his name

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on that door and give him the same song and dance and now

59:29.340 --> 59:33.900
suddenly you have a bunch of people that will do whatever you ask them to do

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say whatever you need them to say on network news

59:38.140 --> 59:42.700
think about how easy that is that's like a reality tv show weaponized

59:43.180 --> 59:47.980
to rule a country but now for everybody they do it differently maybe they

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do it with drugs in a camera with somebody with a girl in a camera with

59:51.420 --> 59:56.060
somebody with with whatever in a camera with somebody

59:56.060 --> 59:59.420
gambling you know you name it

59:59.980 --> 01:00:04.300
just like you don't need one explanation to explain what happened around the

01:00:04.300 --> 01:00:07.020
world during the pandemic they could have done it different in

01:00:07.020 --> 01:00:09.420
England than they did it in America than they did it in

01:00:09.420 --> 01:00:12.300
Australia than they did it in the Netherlands

01:00:12.300 --> 01:00:15.820
and almost certainly they did

01:00:17.580 --> 01:00:21.740
and when you watch a film like this and you hear a Dutch guy talking about

01:00:21.740 --> 01:00:26.780
Ebola then you should see already that it's a very limited

01:00:27.180 --> 01:00:30.700
connectivity pattern here

01:00:32.380 --> 01:00:35.980
both and certainly it's the first time that we have outbreaks in

01:00:35.980 --> 01:00:39.500
capitals in capitals this could explode into a really mega crisis

01:00:39.500 --> 01:00:42.460
I think so and it is already a mega crisis I really thought how can this

01:00:42.460 --> 01:00:46.540
epidemic be controlled in the usual way when there are so many

01:00:46.540 --> 01:00:51.580
outbreaks different places the three countries in West Africa that

01:00:51.580 --> 01:00:55.180
are affected by the Ebola outbreak have some of the worst health indicators

01:00:55.180 --> 01:00:59.900
in the world they're not enough doctors they're not enough nurses

01:00:59.900 --> 01:01:04.300
it is a system that is understaffed underfunded and where the infrastructure

01:01:04.300 --> 01:01:07.180
is very very old

01:01:08.060 --> 01:01:10.860
let's go back to 1976 when you were a younger man

01:01:10.860 --> 01:01:14.860
and you actually co-discovered this virus it was in Zaire

01:01:14.860 --> 01:01:18.300
now the Democratic Republic of the Congo and they said that there was a mysterious

01:01:18.300 --> 01:01:22.140
epidemic this was very lethal high mortality there were

01:01:22.140 --> 01:01:27.580
nuns who had died a small group would go to the mission where the

01:01:27.580 --> 01:01:31.740
epidemic had started apparently they asked the volunteers and I think I was

01:01:31.820 --> 01:01:35.100
about the first one to raise my hand

01:01:35.100 --> 01:01:40.140
although I had absolutely zero experience in doing this

01:01:46.060 --> 01:01:51.340
our mission was to one to put in place some basic measures to contain it

01:01:51.340 --> 01:01:54.060
and using quarantine that's what we thought and

01:01:54.060 --> 01:01:58.220
two to find out how is this transmitted because

01:01:58.220 --> 01:02:02.460
that's the key to stop epidemics to know exactly what the risk is how is

01:02:02.460 --> 01:02:06.700
it transmitted it's really a detective work

01:02:06.700 --> 01:02:11.180
so we tested whole villages talk to the population

01:02:11.180 --> 01:02:14.060
and then have a very primitive questionnaire

01:02:14.060 --> 01:02:17.420
how old where have they been have they traveled

01:02:17.420 --> 01:02:20.940
and so you could imagine that there were very few survivors

01:02:20.940 --> 01:02:23.900
very few and then you can imagine a scenario then

01:02:23.900 --> 01:02:29.180
keep in mind where this guy is unwittingly taking part in this to a

01:02:29.180 --> 01:02:33.580
certain extent because he has been asked by his grant

01:02:33.580 --> 01:02:37.740
committee or by his his grant funding agency

01:02:37.740 --> 01:02:43.500
to learn how come up with strategies to

01:02:43.500 --> 01:02:49.020
answer the question of how is this virus transmitted

01:02:49.180 --> 01:02:54.460
and so because he is interested in the answer to that question

01:02:54.460 --> 01:02:59.100
he will participate gladly in this what he sees as a scientific endeavor to

01:02:59.100 --> 01:03:02.380
try and understand how this virus is transmitted

01:03:02.380 --> 01:03:07.100
he has already accepted the existence of the virus

01:03:08.220 --> 01:03:12.220
he's already accepted its origin must be just nature

01:03:12.220 --> 01:03:16.940
or that that's not a question that he's being paid to ask

01:03:16.940 --> 01:03:21.180
and so a combination of getting people to focus on just one

01:03:21.180 --> 01:03:25.580
question rather than bigger questions just this one

01:03:25.580 --> 01:03:29.260
and making their salary and livelihood dependent on it their fame and

01:03:29.260 --> 01:03:33.900
fortune their status dependent on it a film

01:03:33.900 --> 01:03:36.300
see it

01:03:37.020 --> 01:03:43.100
indeed the so what we call case fatality rate

01:03:43.100 --> 01:03:46.300
was over 90 percent

01:04:00.620 --> 01:04:04.220
nearly all of us come from animals made we're also an animal we're

01:04:04.300 --> 01:04:08.620
touching the fish but she didn't eat it so during the outbreak we started

01:04:08.620 --> 01:04:13.020
collecting samples from all kinds of animals

01:04:14.140 --> 01:04:17.500
and even to blood from pigs because a number of pigs had died

01:04:17.500 --> 01:04:20.380
at the beginning of the epidemic so we said you never know

01:04:20.380 --> 01:04:23.820
but we didn't find it and why did they think that the virus would be in the

01:04:23.820 --> 01:04:26.140
blood

01:04:27.340 --> 01:04:33.740
isn't that a giant assumption and how are they testing for it

01:04:33.740 --> 01:04:36.380
what do you think

01:04:36.380 --> 01:04:42.460
I almost bet dollars to donuts they were testing for antibodies to it

01:04:42.460 --> 01:04:45.820
what do you think about them apples

01:04:45.820 --> 01:04:49.900
they could have been doing PCR but I don't know maybe they did maybe they

01:04:49.900 --> 01:04:51.740
did that let's let maybe he'll say it

01:04:51.740 --> 01:04:56.380
any trace of Ebola my boss at the time the fan battalion had always told me

01:04:56.380 --> 01:05:00.540
watch out for the for the bats and it became a bit of a joke

01:05:00.620 --> 01:05:05.900
but the old man was right because the only reservoir that we think

01:05:05.900 --> 01:05:09.100
were Ebola's hiding are some kind of food eating bats

01:05:12.700 --> 01:05:18.300
oh here we go on a bike it's George Gao on a bike nice

01:05:21.100 --> 01:05:26.460
GC on a bike yo look at that I gotta go back to GC on a bike

01:05:26.460 --> 01:05:29.660
that's GC on a bike look at GC on a bike

01:05:29.660 --> 01:05:33.740
I really like to read all these you know science fixings

01:05:33.740 --> 01:05:37.820
I realize science really fantastic fantastic something new

01:05:37.820 --> 01:05:42.460
oh so this is why I'm working on the emerging or emerging bacteria and

01:05:42.460 --> 01:05:47.580
viruses I think for the Ebola when you put all the data together

01:05:47.580 --> 01:05:50.860
a transmission or a GG on a bike cycle is clear

01:05:50.860 --> 01:05:56.060
so definitely it's from bats and then you have a intermediate host

01:05:56.060 --> 01:05:59.180
it could be some memos in that in that African region

01:05:59.180 --> 01:06:02.700
and then for the home of these I could also be directed from bats

01:06:02.700 --> 01:06:05.580
to humans

01:06:05.900 --> 01:06:10.380
you can see Ebola, SARS and MERS all these virus they are from bats

01:06:10.380 --> 01:06:13.980
so bats are very serious problem

01:06:18.220 --> 01:06:22.140
if we look around the world so I got a story about bats when we moved to this

01:06:22.140 --> 01:06:29.980
is funny when we moved up to uh kadot wisconsin where I basically grew up from

01:06:29.980 --> 01:06:33.260
what grade would it have been fourth grade or so

01:06:33.260 --> 01:06:39.500
which is where my father also grew up and so I had almost all of my father's

01:06:39.500 --> 01:06:43.980
significant school teachers including his history teacher basketball coach who

01:06:43.980 --> 01:06:47.180
wasn't coaching basketball anymore but still history teacher

01:06:47.180 --> 01:06:52.140
his algebra teacher and his civics teacher

01:06:52.140 --> 01:06:57.100
and maybe that's it but oh no and it's chemistry teacher I think

01:06:57.100 --> 01:07:02.700
but anyway the point is I was a Wisconsin boy my whole life I graduated

01:07:02.700 --> 01:07:06.700
from high school up there from a high school graduating class of like 80

01:07:06.700 --> 01:07:12.700
some kids and when we moved up to that hometown

01:07:12.700 --> 01:07:16.780
we bought a house across from the catholic church

01:07:16.780 --> 01:07:21.660
and it was kind of a house that it was in need of repair so we got it kind of

01:07:21.660 --> 01:07:25.740
cheap when we bought the house believe it or not there was a

01:07:25.740 --> 01:07:29.260
small helicopter in two parts in the living room the living room wasn't that

01:07:29.260 --> 01:07:37.340
big the helicopter was that small um and the bats in the in the attic

01:07:37.340 --> 01:07:41.260
had crapped so much that you couldn't see

01:07:41.260 --> 01:07:44.940
the rafters in the attic when you went up there

01:07:44.940 --> 01:07:51.260
so my father and I using like really not even masks but just bandanas

01:07:51.260 --> 01:07:56.220
shoveled all that out which just tried to imagine the dust that was involved

01:07:56.220 --> 01:07:59.980
in that um and then also before we did that of course

01:07:59.980 --> 01:08:02.620
we had to put buckets of open pneumonia up there

01:08:02.620 --> 01:08:05.260
ammonia up there to try and get the bats out but

01:08:05.260 --> 01:08:08.700
there were hundreds of them up there and we had multiple

01:08:08.700 --> 01:08:12.300
of them in the house during the course of trying to drive them out

01:08:12.300 --> 01:08:15.660
um and in retrospect I feel really bad because

01:08:15.660 --> 01:08:19.740
um I mean it was a spectacular number of bats like I

01:08:19.740 --> 01:08:23.100
I think it was part of might have been part of the reason why we got the house

01:08:23.100 --> 01:08:28.060
so cheap but anyway uh and I didn't get any viruses from that so little brown

01:08:28.060 --> 01:08:30.460
bats are not dangerous apparently at least not in

01:08:30.460 --> 01:08:32.860
Wisconsin you can see that bat populations are

01:08:32.860 --> 01:08:36.700
being severely successful bandanas are totally magical

01:08:36.700 --> 01:08:40.380
some of them because they live in the upper tiers of rainforests

01:08:40.380 --> 01:08:43.900
and feed on wild fruit but the upper tiers of the rainforests are getting

01:08:43.900 --> 01:08:46.220
the most impacted yes we did put all of that in the

01:08:46.220 --> 01:08:49.020
garden so we didn't we that was the same place

01:08:49.020 --> 01:08:52.700
that we we you know wrote took all the sod off of it wrote

01:08:52.700 --> 01:08:55.900
until the day and it was uh yeah definitely

01:08:55.900 --> 01:08:58.700
my dad knew what he was doing when that was that that was definitely an

01:08:58.700 --> 01:09:02.860
opportunity of this heat increase an increased uv radiation

01:09:02.860 --> 01:09:05.740
add to that that humans are encroaching into the rainforests

01:09:05.740 --> 01:09:09.420
into bat habitats precious caves they're very shy creatures

01:09:09.420 --> 01:09:13.900
they do not seek you out no matter what vampire movies you ever saw

01:09:13.900 --> 01:09:17.740
as humans encroach we see more and more bat populations starving

01:09:17.740 --> 01:09:22.940
and coming into human habitation areas to feed on our agricultural production

01:09:22.940 --> 01:09:25.740
and in the process they're passing their virus on

01:09:25.740 --> 01:09:29.580
to other animals and to humans

01:09:30.060 --> 01:09:33.020
we are imposing changes in the microbial world

01:09:33.020 --> 01:09:38.860
willy nilly thoughtless and we do so at our peril

01:09:38.860 --> 01:09:41.820
we have dramatically increased our contact with animals in a variety of

01:09:41.820 --> 01:09:45.580
ways through deforestation industrialization of

01:09:45.580 --> 01:09:49.500
agriculture and vastly increased consumption of animals

01:09:49.500 --> 01:09:53.980
so in one sense there are less animals because we're deforestating

01:09:53.980 --> 01:09:57.100
but then deforesting but then deforesting drives

01:09:57.100 --> 01:10:01.180
those animals into us somehow where they weren't

01:10:01.180 --> 01:10:05.420
before because they had their own space and

01:10:05.420 --> 01:10:08.620
and don't just it don't animals just die when you take away

01:10:08.620 --> 01:10:12.220
acres and acres of forest they don't just all move into the part of the

01:10:12.220 --> 01:10:15.340
forest that's left i mean that's not how it works right

01:10:15.340 --> 01:10:17.500
otherwise there would be parts of the amazon that were just

01:10:17.500 --> 01:10:21.420
crowded with animals what is this it doesn't even

01:10:21.420 --> 01:10:24.140
make sense

01:10:24.140 --> 01:10:27.660
hiv spread out of africa from a few monkeys and chimpanzees to infect

01:10:27.660 --> 01:10:31.260
millions of people on every continent

01:10:31.260 --> 01:10:34.940
sars jumped from a bat to a civic cat so he's listing it now and now he's

01:10:34.940 --> 01:10:37.500
listing it hold on here and actually increased our contact with animals

01:10:37.500 --> 01:10:41.980
in a variety of ways through deforestation industrialization of

01:10:41.980 --> 01:10:47.900
agriculture and vastly increased consumption of animals

01:10:47.900 --> 01:10:51.580
hiv spread out of africa from a few monkeys and chimpanzees to infect

01:10:51.580 --> 01:10:54.940
millions of people on every continent

01:10:54.940 --> 01:10:58.700
and so here we are right in 2017 where the

01:10:58.700 --> 01:11:02.300
narrative that cnn is pushing is that bushmeat

01:11:02.300 --> 01:11:06.380
is aids it's the exact same narrative that that

01:11:06.380 --> 01:11:10.220
Brett Weinstein started out with at the beginning of the pandemic

01:11:10.220 --> 01:11:15.340
that aids is bushmeat and brick and cove it must be bushmeat and even if it

01:11:15.340 --> 01:11:17.740
isn't we should definitely control bushmeat

01:11:17.740 --> 01:11:22.300
and they were advocating for it multiple shows we got to close these

01:11:22.300 --> 01:11:25.980
crazy markets they've gotten these places i mean it's just insane

01:11:25.980 --> 01:11:30.140
and that's how they were talking again

01:11:30.140 --> 01:11:34.460
basically getting us to ask the wrong questions making us sure we're never

01:11:34.460 --> 01:11:38.380
gonna get out of the cave sars jumped from a bat to a civic

01:11:38.380 --> 01:11:41.100
cat to a villager in china to more than 30 countries

01:11:41.100 --> 01:11:44.300
in a matter of weeks you don't think that's what wasting disease

01:11:44.300 --> 01:11:48.700
in in deer is all about

01:11:48.700 --> 01:11:53.180
i mean that that's something quite frankly i think is just to try and

01:11:53.180 --> 01:11:56.860
discourage people from taking part in hunting anymore to make it

01:11:56.860 --> 01:11:59.660
less and less attractive you know you know how many

01:11:59.660 --> 01:12:03.980
how many deer do you have to show on tv with wasting disease how many

01:12:03.980 --> 01:12:07.340
how many news reports do you have to do before some people are just like maybe

01:12:07.340 --> 01:12:09.820
i'm not going to go hunting this year because i don't want to take a chance

01:12:09.820 --> 01:12:15.660
with that

01:12:17.180 --> 01:12:20.300
animal and human health are completely linked

01:12:20.300 --> 01:12:24.140
in the 21st century 75 percent of all new infectious diseases

01:12:24.140 --> 01:12:28.060
have come from animals 75 percent what does that even mean

01:12:28.060 --> 01:12:33.420
in other cases three out of four like mosquitoes

01:12:33.580 --> 01:12:37.500
if anyone had sat down and done you know a fantasy

01:12:37.500 --> 01:12:40.700
hit parade of emerging boys she's getting quite a quite a

01:12:40.700 --> 01:12:44.620
starring role in this isn't she diseases that might come to the america's

01:12:44.620 --> 01:12:49.660
from africa or from asia zika would never have even been on the list

01:12:49.660 --> 01:12:54.140
zika laris originated in africa and had never been off the african continent

01:12:54.140 --> 01:12:58.540
until started making its way across asia and south pacific

01:12:58.540 --> 01:13:02.940
ending up in french polynesia and yap

01:13:02.940 --> 01:13:05.580
the app is a small place that most people have never heard of

01:13:05.580 --> 01:13:09.900
but when zika hit it 70 percent of the population got infected

01:13:09.900 --> 01:13:13.420
that was really quite startling if anybody had been paying attention

01:13:13.420 --> 01:13:17.180
but they weren't zika jumped from the south pacific to brazil

01:13:17.180 --> 01:13:21.980
in 2013 two years before it was identified there

01:13:21.980 --> 01:13:25.420
the timeline corresponds to an increase in travel between the south pacific and

01:13:25.420 --> 01:13:28.620
brazil including visitors who attended a pre-world

01:13:28.620 --> 01:13:33.260
cup soccer tournament a confederation cup

01:13:34.700 --> 01:13:39.900
someone was carrying the zika virus and some mosquitoes that that individual

01:13:39.900 --> 01:13:45.660
absorbed the virus and that's the beginning of this saga

01:13:46.300 --> 01:13:49.260
and that's also the alnino weather event

01:13:49.260 --> 01:13:53.260
provided the necessary ingredients that's also something there right what is

01:13:53.260 --> 01:13:56.060
the model of reality that's implied here the model of

01:13:56.060 --> 01:14:00.300
reality that is implied is that people carrying the virus

01:14:00.300 --> 01:14:05.020
carry it in such a uniform distribution in their blood

01:14:05.020 --> 01:14:10.940
that a mosquito size drop of their blood will eventually contain that virus

01:14:10.940 --> 01:14:15.580
and then can be transmitted by it

01:14:16.460 --> 01:14:18.860
say what wait

01:14:18.860 --> 01:14:26.140
attended the pre-world cup soccer tournament

01:14:26.140 --> 01:14:29.020
the confederation cup

01:14:30.460 --> 01:14:35.580
someone was carrying the zika virus and some mosquitoes that that individual

01:14:35.580 --> 01:14:39.980
absorbed the virus and that's the beginning of this saga

01:14:39.980 --> 01:14:47.020
what how is that what that's that's extraordinary if you think about it

01:14:47.020 --> 01:14:51.340
i mean that's really extraordinary because i'm not really sure that mosquitoes

01:14:51.340 --> 01:14:56.220
bite like lots of people now i'm no entomologist

01:14:56.220 --> 01:15:01.340
but if a mosquito bites until it's full and then flies away and i have an itchy

01:15:01.340 --> 01:15:05.660
bump i think that mosquito goes off to lay eggs

01:15:06.060 --> 01:15:10.700
am i wrong here i mean mosquitoes don't live for like you know

01:15:10.700 --> 01:15:16.140
months and months and months they can't live more than a season right

01:15:16.140 --> 01:15:19.820
i mean let's just be ridiculously naive about it when we're not

01:15:19.820 --> 01:15:23.580
mosquitoes don't live that long they get eaten by everything that they

01:15:23.580 --> 01:15:26.700
they fly past

01:15:26.940 --> 01:15:32.380
and some birds eat their weight and mosquitoes every day

01:15:32.380 --> 01:15:36.140
mosquitoes don't bite like animals all over the place they don't go from

01:15:36.140 --> 01:15:40.940
into a concert and bite 17 people that what is she talking about

01:15:40.940 --> 01:15:45.820
but that's the model of reality that she gives us

01:15:45.820 --> 01:15:50.460
a model that makes predictions that can't be verified that won't verify you

01:15:50.460 --> 01:15:53.900
know they won't if you just turn your imagination long enough to entertain

01:15:53.900 --> 01:15:55.980
it

01:15:56.460 --> 01:16:00.540
and that's the beauty of what i'm learning from the broken science initiative that

01:16:00.540 --> 01:16:05.180
this way of thinking about how knowledge is created

01:16:05.180 --> 01:16:09.580
through the use of model verification using models to make predictions and then

01:16:09.580 --> 01:16:12.460
see if those predictions come true and if they don't

01:16:12.460 --> 01:16:16.780
change the model in an intelligent thoughtful way

01:16:16.780 --> 01:16:21.180
which tries to encompass that new observation

01:16:21.180 --> 01:16:23.820
as we were talking about with map Briggs yesterday

01:16:23.820 --> 01:16:27.740
if you have a model that recapitulates the past but you crank it forward and it

01:16:27.740 --> 01:16:33.340
can't make useful predictions something might be wrong with it

01:16:33.340 --> 01:16:37.660
and so if she explains the Zika virus as spreading by a

01:16:37.660 --> 01:16:41.180
mosquito carrying something from victim to victim

01:16:41.180 --> 01:16:46.860
then that's a certain model that makes certain predictions that

01:16:47.660 --> 01:16:53.100
i'm sure mosquito scientists would tell you are it cannot be true

01:16:53.100 --> 01:16:56.220
and yet they're allowed to get away with it because of this extreme

01:16:56.220 --> 01:16:59.340
specialization well i'm just a mosquito guy so i don't want to correct a

01:16:59.340 --> 01:17:02.540
virologist i'm just a mosquito guy i make my

01:17:02.540 --> 01:17:06.140
i get my grants by their diseases so i wouldn't want to correct them on

01:17:06.140 --> 01:17:14.700
mosquito basic biology do you see how this works

01:17:15.420 --> 01:17:18.380
and then undoubtedly the El Nino weather event

01:17:18.380 --> 01:17:21.820
provided the necessary ingredients rainfall and drought

01:17:21.820 --> 01:17:24.700
that fundamentally changed the conditions on the ground and allowed for

01:17:24.700 --> 01:17:27.740
the spread of this virus

01:17:28.620 --> 01:17:32.460
so more mosquitoes spread it all over the place so in the unlucky people who got

01:17:32.460 --> 01:17:35.020
bit by mosquito that bit somebody else that sucked just

01:17:35.100 --> 01:17:38.380
enough of the virus out of them but not enough blood to make eggs so then they

01:17:38.380 --> 01:17:42.300
bit somebody else holy cow

01:17:49.500 --> 01:17:53.500
only weeds and mosquitoes

01:18:05.900 --> 01:18:09.580
that's like a birth defect in my mind that's like a developmental disorder

01:18:09.580 --> 01:18:13.580
then how does that happen from a virus

01:18:28.460 --> 01:18:32.940
and now we are being forced to ask questions that give us the wrong model

01:18:32.940 --> 01:18:36.860
of things in our head we are asking the question of how

01:18:36.860 --> 01:18:40.940
how do we stop this virus how do we prevent this this

01:18:40.940 --> 01:18:45.260
this suffering from happening but we talked to to

01:18:45.260 --> 01:18:47.820
randal

01:18:48.780 --> 01:18:52.540
i can't remember but we talked to the guy who wrote the book about this this is

01:18:52.540 --> 01:18:56.540
this was all a weird story they were telling

01:18:56.540 --> 01:19:00.540
and we don't know if it was because of herbicides or insecticides or

01:19:00.540 --> 01:19:04.300
chemical spill or what i don't know what they did

01:19:04.300 --> 01:19:07.660
i mean just they wanted to give people and they wanted to give

01:19:07.660 --> 01:19:12.700
uh start with the idea that that pregnant women could be vaccinated

01:19:12.700 --> 01:19:16.220
that pregnant women could be injected with things in order to prevent disease

01:19:16.220 --> 01:19:20.940
in the baby and so that whole concept had to be rolled out somewhere where

01:19:20.940 --> 01:19:23.740
they could just bully the population with a narrative

01:19:23.740 --> 01:19:27.180
so they did it there they do it in Africa that's what i think you have to

01:19:27.180 --> 01:19:31.020
see this as they tell us these stories they've told us

01:19:31.020 --> 01:19:33.980
these stories you know Stephen Hatfield has told us these

01:19:33.980 --> 01:19:38.060
stories about Ebola but it's not really the stories

01:19:38.060 --> 01:19:43.980
they're not these are not truthful people they are part of a ruling elite

01:19:43.980 --> 01:19:49.020
which tell us stories so that we they have a grip on our understanding of

01:19:49.020 --> 01:19:52.620
reality a full grip on our understanding of reality

01:19:52.620 --> 01:19:57.660
it is very similar to what dullis said when the United States

01:19:57.660 --> 01:20:01.260
populists everything they believe is a lie

01:20:01.260 --> 01:20:05.420
then we will finally be in control that that's that's where we are

01:20:05.420 --> 01:20:09.900
and that's what the unique opportunity of covid and the pandemic is for all of

01:20:09.900 --> 01:20:14.300
us we can turn to our children we can turn to the young adults around

01:20:14.300 --> 01:20:17.340
us and say you know there's an alternative way to see what happened

01:20:17.340 --> 01:20:20.540
over the last four years and there's still time to learn from it

01:20:20.540 --> 01:20:25.260
there's still time for us to collectively put our pants back on

01:20:25.260 --> 01:20:30.540
and and get to work building a republic that we can all be proud of

01:20:30.540 --> 01:20:34.860
that's founded on moral principles that are anchored in some

01:20:34.860 --> 01:20:41.340
reverence for the sacred some understanding that what we are is

01:20:41.340 --> 01:20:47.660
is more than a than a clock more than a fancy machine

01:20:47.660 --> 01:20:52.460
and i'm all about beautiful things and intricate mechanisms and all this

01:20:52.460 --> 01:20:57.260
other stuff but what life is is not an elaborate

01:20:57.260 --> 01:21:01.020
clockwork although that can be a useful analogy we're not

01:21:01.020 --> 01:21:04.940
trying to understand parts of that pattern integrity

01:21:04.940 --> 01:21:08.620
it is not a useful analogy when trying to understand

01:21:08.620 --> 01:21:13.100
what the whole of life is and how it works

01:21:13.180 --> 01:21:15.580
and that's unfortunately what they are

01:21:15.580 --> 01:21:20.860
messing with us here they want us to accept simple models of reality and

01:21:20.860 --> 01:21:24.460
simple models of our relationship to the world

01:21:24.460 --> 01:21:31.180
biologically so that we will accept their simple model of medicine

01:21:31.180 --> 01:21:34.940
and and accept that our our bodies essentially are broken

01:21:34.940 --> 01:21:40.700
they're vulnerable and they're weak and it has nothing to do with what we are

01:21:40.780 --> 01:21:44.220
eating nothing to do with what we are exposed to nothing to do with what we're

01:21:44.220 --> 01:21:48.780
not doing it has all to do with vulnerabilities

01:21:48.780 --> 01:21:54.620
just because nature is mean that's the big model of reality that this

01:21:54.620 --> 01:21:59.340
this movie seems to be starting out with showing with Ebola and now Zika

01:21:59.340 --> 01:22:02.780
and we'll see how it goes forward

01:22:11.580 --> 01:22:15.420
and so the average skilled tv watcher when they listen to this woman is not

01:22:15.420 --> 01:22:19.900
thinking about is it really a virus has she been misled

01:22:19.900 --> 01:22:23.340
by governments around the world into thinking that this is something that it

01:22:23.340 --> 01:22:28.140
isn't so that they can do their thing

01:22:30.860 --> 01:22:33.820
that's what i'm thinking that's what you should be thinking but that's not

01:22:33.820 --> 01:22:38.300
what people who saw this in 2017 thought that's not what

01:22:38.300 --> 01:22:45.100
a high school teacher of biology in 2017 would think that's not what a

01:22:45.100 --> 01:22:49.420
wannabe state senator in pennsylvania would think if he saw this into or she

01:22:49.420 --> 01:22:52.620
saw this in 2017 what do you i mean come on

01:22:52.620 --> 01:22:57.980
you see the magic of this these people are insistent

01:22:58.060 --> 01:23:03.740
as an enchantment that they are either under or they are casting

01:23:08.300 --> 01:23:17.820
oh

01:23:38.300 --> 01:23:51.100
In 2015, the Zika virus suddenly spread across Brazil, primarily through the bite of one

01:23:51.100 --> 01:23:53.380
type of mosquito.

01:23:53.380 --> 01:23:57.820
The medical establishment only began to comprehend Zika's danger, as the number of babies born

01:23:57.820 --> 01:24:01.660
with the birth defect microcephaly started to dramatically increase.

01:24:01.660 --> 01:24:31.460
Now, notice very carefully here that, notice very carefully here, can you see if I got

01:24:31.460 --> 01:24:36.440
a box out there?

01:24:36.440 --> 01:24:43.780
If you notice carefully here, they are amplifying this idea that, ooh, we saw a signal that there's

01:24:43.780 --> 01:24:44.780
microencephaly.

01:24:44.780 --> 01:24:49.580
I called some other people, and I was on this chat group, and we all agreed that there was

01:24:49.580 --> 01:24:51.540
more microencephaly.

01:24:51.540 --> 01:24:58.260
What I need you to see clearly here is that that did not happen in COVID, and anything

01:24:58.260 --> 01:25:03.340
that did happen at the beginning of COVID, any agreement like that, any who we called

01:25:03.340 --> 01:25:09.340
other doctors, and coincidentally, we're done with what?

01:25:09.340 --> 01:25:13.820
With the team worst-case scenario.

01:25:13.820 --> 01:25:19.100
The best agreement that we have across early 2020, across most doctors, is that nothing

01:25:19.100 --> 01:25:23.220
happened.

01:25:23.220 --> 01:25:29.060
And so it is an extraordinary thing that now, when we have signals like doctors apparently

01:25:29.060 --> 01:25:37.060
all agreed that there's some kind of new rise in cancer, we ignore it.

01:25:37.060 --> 01:25:44.980
We have all of these embalmers saying that, well, it's getting a lot harder to get these

01:25:44.980 --> 01:25:49.220
dead bodies to perfuse, we don't care.

01:25:49.220 --> 01:25:52.460
What is going on then?

01:25:52.460 --> 01:25:54.700
You have to only see it as what it is.

01:25:54.700 --> 01:25:56.380
It's purposeful governance.

01:25:56.380 --> 01:26:01.900
It is a limited spectrum of debate, and some of those subjects are not within that limited

01:26:01.900 --> 01:26:02.900
spectrum of debate.

01:26:02.900 --> 01:26:08.820
And if they are, they are controlled in such a way so that they don't move the ball of

01:26:08.820 --> 01:26:14.820
the novel virus that killed millions, that millions more were saved from, that will come

01:26:14.820 --> 01:26:17.740
again because it was gain of function.

01:26:17.740 --> 01:26:24.740
I think it's going to be a very difficult time to do it, but I think it's going to be

01:26:24.740 --> 01:26:27.740
a very difficult time to do it.

01:26:27.740 --> 01:26:32.740
I think it's going to be a very difficult time to do it.

01:26:32.740 --> 01:26:36.740
I think it's going to be a very difficult time to do it.

01:26:36.740 --> 01:26:41.740
I think it's going to be a very difficult time to do it.

01:26:41.740 --> 01:26:47.740
I think it's going to be a very difficult time to do it.

01:26:47.740 --> 01:26:52.740
I think it's going to be a very difficult time to do it.

01:26:52.740 --> 01:26:59.740
I think it's going to be a very difficult time to do it.

01:26:59.740 --> 01:27:04.740
I think it's going to be a very difficult time to do it.

01:27:04.740 --> 01:27:10.740
I think it's going to be a very difficult time to do it.

01:27:10.740 --> 01:27:15.740
I think it's going to be a very difficult time to do it.

01:27:15.740 --> 01:27:21.740
Since the alarm went sounding around the world from Brazil, we have seen almost every day

01:27:21.740 --> 01:27:24.740
another revelation about this virus.

01:27:24.740 --> 01:27:28.740
What we now know is that this is a very dangerous virus.

01:27:28.740 --> 01:27:30.740
We grossly underestimated it.

01:27:30.740 --> 01:27:35.740
It is malaria in that it is transmitted by mosquitoes and can cause enormous outbreaks.

01:27:35.740 --> 01:27:38.740
It is HIV in that it is sexually transmitted.

01:27:38.740 --> 01:27:44.740
It's worse than all of the above as we come to understand what this virus actually lives on.

01:27:44.740 --> 01:27:46.740
Where does the virus go in a pregnant woman?

01:27:46.740 --> 01:27:47.740
Wait, what?

01:27:47.740 --> 01:27:51.740
It goes into this tiny forming creature, the fetus, and it feeds on it

01:27:51.740 --> 01:27:55.740
and reinfects back into the mother's bloodstream over and over again.

01:27:55.740 --> 01:27:58.740
What is it feeding on in that fetus?

01:27:58.740 --> 01:28:00.740
Baby brain cells.

01:28:00.740 --> 01:28:01.740
Wow!

01:28:01.740 --> 01:28:05.740
Every single part of the brain of that developing child is damaged.

01:28:06.740 --> 01:28:10.740
The Zika virus affects its victims in a completely different way from the Ebola virus.

01:28:10.740 --> 01:28:15.740
It feeds on the baby's brain.

01:28:15.740 --> 01:28:19.740
She said it feeds on the baby's brain.

01:28:19.740 --> 01:28:21.740
Oh my gosh.

01:28:21.740 --> 01:28:23.740
That can't be right.

01:28:23.740 --> 01:28:27.740
That cannot be possibly substantiated in the literature.

01:28:27.740 --> 01:28:30.740
There is no freaking way.

01:28:30.740 --> 01:28:33.740
Oh my gosh.

01:28:33.740 --> 01:28:37.740
Oh, that is really alarming.

01:28:37.740 --> 01:28:42.740
Some epidemics grab our attention, while others, in spite of the larger number of victims remain more hidden.

01:28:42.740 --> 01:28:44.740
I need to know more about the Zika virus.

01:28:44.740 --> 01:28:45.740
I will admit it.

01:28:45.740 --> 01:28:50.740
I've got to read the literature at least, so I know what they claim it does, but that seems pretty.

01:28:50.740 --> 01:28:53.740
She said it was eating baby's brains.

01:28:53.740 --> 01:28:54.740
Wow!

01:28:54.740 --> 01:28:56.740
How does it get all the way there?

01:28:56.740 --> 01:28:59.740
The brain is a pretty privileged place.

01:28:59.740 --> 01:29:01.740
I'll run it back.

01:29:01.740 --> 01:29:03.740
And it's malaria in that it is trans...

01:29:03.740 --> 01:29:07.740
What we now know is that this is a very dangerous virus.

01:29:07.740 --> 01:29:09.740
We grossly underestimated it.

01:29:09.740 --> 01:29:14.740
It is malaria in that it is transmitted by mosquitoes and can cause enormous outbreaks.

01:29:14.740 --> 01:29:17.740
It is HIV in that it is sexually transmitted.

01:29:17.740 --> 01:29:23.740
And it's worse than all of the above, as we come to understand what this virus actually lives on.

01:29:23.740 --> 01:29:24.740
It lives on.

01:29:24.740 --> 01:29:30.740
As the virus go in a pregnant woman, it goes into this tiny forming creature, the fetus, and it feeds on it.

01:29:30.740 --> 01:29:34.740
And re-infects back into the mother's bloodstream over and over again.

01:29:34.740 --> 01:29:37.740
And what is it feeding on in that fetus?

01:29:37.740 --> 01:29:39.740
Baby brain cells.

01:29:39.740 --> 01:29:40.740
Wow!

01:29:40.740 --> 01:29:43.740
I mean, why does it meet the mom's brain then?

01:29:43.740 --> 01:29:46.740
What is going on here?

01:29:46.740 --> 01:29:49.740
Did we really let them get away with this?

01:29:49.740 --> 01:29:50.740
Holy cow!

01:29:50.740 --> 01:29:55.740
And so, every single part of the brain of that developing child is damaged.

01:29:55.740 --> 01:29:57.740
The Zika virus affects its victims.

01:29:57.740 --> 01:29:59.740
Yeah, viruses eat things.

01:29:59.740 --> 01:30:01.740
Yes, that's right. They definitely eat them.

01:30:01.740 --> 01:30:02.740
They think they're in common.

01:30:02.740 --> 01:30:03.740
Is how fast they can move.

01:30:03.740 --> 01:30:04.740
They move fast, too.

01:30:04.740 --> 01:30:05.740
Man, they've had some.

01:30:05.740 --> 01:30:06.740
While spearing others.

01:30:06.740 --> 01:30:08.740
I mean, the speed of a mosquito.

01:30:08.740 --> 01:30:09.740
Let's grab our attention.

01:30:09.740 --> 01:30:11.740
While others, in spite of the larger...

01:30:11.740 --> 01:30:13.740
Or a one-night stand, I guess.

01:30:13.740 --> 01:30:20.740
They need to go full shaft.

01:30:20.740 --> 01:30:24.740
They still get them walking.

01:30:24.740 --> 01:30:28.740
Here we go.

01:30:28.740 --> 01:30:32.740
2014 influenza outbreak.

01:30:32.740 --> 01:30:34.740
We're inside of Minnesota.

01:30:34.740 --> 01:30:37.740
It's a beautiful town.

01:30:37.740 --> 01:30:41.740
To me, it's like Mayberry RFP.

01:30:41.740 --> 01:30:45.740
To me, it's like Mayberry RFE, Opie Taylor's town.

01:30:45.740 --> 01:30:47.740
Minnesota is where Ulster Home is.

01:30:47.740 --> 01:30:48.740
It's a princess.

01:30:48.740 --> 01:30:49.740
It was sick.

01:30:49.740 --> 01:30:52.740
And the chief brought her here because of the healing waters.

01:30:54.740 --> 01:30:57.740
When we moved here, it just felt like home.

01:30:57.740 --> 01:30:58.740
I think we got lucky.

01:30:58.740 --> 01:31:01.740
The good Lord just gave us two good kids.

01:31:01.740 --> 01:31:05.740
Sarah was always the princess of Shannon's opposite.

01:31:05.740 --> 01:31:06.740
She was a tomboy.

01:31:06.740 --> 01:31:08.740
She loved skateboarding.

01:31:08.740 --> 01:31:10.740
And she loved video games.

01:31:10.740 --> 01:31:12.740
Shannon, she's a complete surprise.

01:31:12.740 --> 01:31:14.740
Sarah was almost 16.

01:31:14.740 --> 01:31:16.740
And I was 40.

01:31:16.740 --> 01:31:18.740
She was at a joy.

01:31:18.740 --> 01:31:19.740
Right from the get-go.

01:31:19.740 --> 01:31:21.740
She was a joy for everybody.

01:31:21.740 --> 01:31:23.740
We were a tight family.

01:31:23.740 --> 01:31:25.740
Her first line up by herself.

01:31:25.740 --> 01:31:27.740
Oh, my gosh.

01:31:27.740 --> 01:31:29.740
I remember when she got a permit.

01:31:29.740 --> 01:31:31.740
She was just so tickled.

01:31:31.740 --> 01:31:32.740
She goes by herself.

01:31:32.740 --> 01:31:34.740
I saw her so proud of her.

01:31:34.740 --> 01:31:35.740
Oh, my gosh.

01:31:35.740 --> 01:31:36.740
Oh, my gosh.

01:31:36.740 --> 01:31:37.740
Somebody's driving.

01:31:38.740 --> 01:31:40.740
I don't have to pay these parents.

01:31:40.740 --> 01:31:41.740
They missed their daughter.

01:31:41.740 --> 01:31:44.740
And they were told their daughter was killed by the flu.

01:31:44.740 --> 01:31:45.740
So what are they going to do?

01:31:45.740 --> 01:31:47.740
She was in her senior year of high school.

01:31:47.740 --> 01:31:50.740
She came home Wednesday night.

01:31:50.740 --> 01:31:53.740
Couldn't possibly be being mistreated at the hospital.

01:31:53.740 --> 01:31:54.740
That was Wednesday.

01:31:54.740 --> 01:32:00.740
And Thursday, she does seem to be, you know, baseline for being sick.

01:32:00.740 --> 01:32:02.740
But she wasn't getting better.

01:32:03.740 --> 01:32:05.740
And that's when Terry and I agreed that we've got to take her.

01:32:05.740 --> 01:32:08.740
And I took her that Sunday to go to the hospital.

01:32:08.740 --> 01:32:09.740
We waited two hours.

01:32:09.740 --> 01:32:10.740
It was that pack.

01:32:10.740 --> 01:32:13.740
That's when I knew there was a big epidemic of flu going on.

01:32:13.740 --> 01:32:15.740
And she's sitting next to me and she's got her head on me.

01:32:15.740 --> 01:32:17.740
And I took to selfie.

01:32:17.740 --> 01:32:19.740
Senator Mom saying we're still waiting.

01:32:19.740 --> 01:32:22.740
The doctor said it was just a flu that I had to run this course.

01:32:22.740 --> 01:32:25.740
They gave her some cough medicine just for comfort.

01:32:25.740 --> 01:32:27.740
And Terry went to the hospital.

01:32:28.740 --> 01:32:30.740
Well, I got her back up in her bed.

01:32:33.740 --> 01:32:34.740
Here we go.

01:32:34.740 --> 01:32:35.740
Are these the real messages?

01:32:35.740 --> 01:32:36.740
I don't know.

01:32:36.740 --> 01:32:37.740
It could be.

01:32:37.740 --> 01:32:38.740
I guess.

01:32:38.740 --> 01:32:39.740
Come on.

01:32:39.740 --> 01:32:40.740
I don't know.

01:32:40.740 --> 01:32:42.740
It's good brainwashing if it's not, right?

01:32:42.740 --> 01:32:46.740
I mean, this is propaganda extraordinaire.

01:32:46.740 --> 01:32:48.740
It's about five o'clock in the morning.

01:32:48.740 --> 01:32:51.740
I was sitting in the living room and I heard her moving around upstairs.

01:32:51.740 --> 01:32:52.740
I thought, wow.

01:32:53.740 --> 01:32:55.740
She's getting out of bed.

01:32:55.740 --> 01:32:57.740
I got up and I went to the coffee.

01:32:57.740 --> 01:33:00.740
I mean, if you say sepsis in the in the chat, right?

01:33:00.740 --> 01:33:01.740
That's what we're talking about here.

01:33:01.740 --> 01:33:03.740
I just to remind you, I can put the chat of the other one up.

01:33:03.740 --> 01:33:05.740
Let's see who's in there.

01:33:05.740 --> 01:33:08.740
I'm in the chat testing peer to base solar flare.

01:33:08.740 --> 01:33:10.740
Nice work way to go.

01:33:10.740 --> 01:33:13.740
If you say that in the chat, sepsis, that's the point, right?

01:33:13.740 --> 01:33:16.740
If you say it's a virus and antibiotics don't work on virus,

01:33:16.740 --> 01:33:17.740
you know, it's a virus.

01:33:18.740 --> 01:33:19.740
That's the point, right?

01:33:19.740 --> 01:33:22.740
If you say it's a virus and antibiotics don't work on viruses,

01:33:22.740 --> 01:33:26.740
then there's a whole host of things you have just ruled out.

01:33:26.740 --> 01:33:31.740
There's a whole host of things that will now kill you if you're wrong.

01:33:31.740 --> 01:33:33.740
That's the best way to put it.

01:33:33.740 --> 01:33:38.740
If you rule out anything that antibiotics,

01:33:38.740 --> 01:33:44.740
antibiotics won't work for what ails you and you're wrong.

01:33:45.740 --> 01:33:50.740
There are lots of things that antibiotics can fix that will kill you.

01:33:50.740 --> 01:33:53.740
Is that making perfect sense?

01:33:53.740 --> 01:33:57.740
If antibiotics are necessary, rather, let me say it again,

01:33:57.740 --> 01:34:03.740
if you decide that antibiotics are not necessary and you're wrong,

01:34:03.740 --> 01:34:08.740
there is a whole list of things that antibiotics can help with

01:34:08.740 --> 01:34:10.740
that can also kill you.

01:34:11.740 --> 01:34:16.740
I can make her and I saw in my peripheral that she got up and she went into the bathroom.

01:34:16.740 --> 01:34:18.740
She tapped on the shower curtain and I said,

01:34:18.740 --> 01:34:19.740
you want to take a shower?

01:34:19.740 --> 01:34:20.740
And she nodded.

01:34:20.740 --> 01:34:21.740
Yes.

01:34:21.740 --> 01:34:22.740
I said, okay.

01:34:22.740 --> 01:34:24.740
I was filling the water up and all that got about so full,

01:34:24.740 --> 01:34:27.740
she laid back that her knees kept buckling and you know,

01:34:27.740 --> 01:34:31.740
she could push it on the end of the time to keep herself from sliding under it.

01:34:31.740 --> 01:34:33.740
See the thing I'm going to say something else here.

01:34:33.740 --> 01:34:36.740
I'm never going to get through this video in time for basketball.

01:34:36.740 --> 01:34:41.740
The thing that I'll say here is what I find very interesting about the attack on

01:34:41.740 --> 01:34:47.740
the wellness company is that it sort of in a way ends up to be an

01:34:47.740 --> 01:34:52.740
indirect attack on what they're actually selling or started selling,

01:34:52.740 --> 01:34:54.740
which is what?

01:34:54.740 --> 01:34:57.740
It is the Z shield,

01:34:57.740 --> 01:35:03.740
which is Dr. Zelenko's argument that he made in this video from his phone

01:35:03.740 --> 01:35:08.740
in his car before he died where he said, Hey,

01:35:08.740 --> 01:35:10.740
this is a national security secret here.

01:35:10.740 --> 01:35:16.740
But you know, zinc and a zinc ionophore is all you need for all of these RNA viruses.

01:35:16.740 --> 01:35:20.740
He made a little video of it that I'm sure I have on my hard drive somewhere that I

01:35:20.740 --> 01:35:26.740
didn't find for this because I didn't realize it was going to, I would want it so quickly.

01:35:26.740 --> 01:35:30.740
But I assure you that video is there and more importantly, I assure you that that's what

01:35:30.740 --> 01:35:32.740
Z shield the product is.

01:35:32.740 --> 01:35:39.740
It's a green tea extract, which purportedly has the molecular property of being a zinc ionophore

01:35:39.740 --> 01:35:41.740
to allow zinc into cells.

01:35:41.740 --> 01:35:43.740
Apparently, I don't know how that works.

01:35:43.740 --> 01:35:45.740
But that's what I'm told.

01:35:45.740 --> 01:35:48.740
It can transport zinc or help zinc it in.

01:35:48.740 --> 01:35:53.740
Then there's zinc and there's some other, I don't know, St. John's root or wart or something in there.

01:35:53.740 --> 01:36:07.740
The point is, is that that debate in reality ends up throwing shade attention on the debate

01:36:07.740 --> 01:36:11.740
about there being a need for novel treatments.

01:36:11.740 --> 01:36:14.740
There being suppression of novel treatments.

01:36:14.740 --> 01:36:20.740
And so you get people again, whether you approach it from the perspective of skepticism of the

01:36:20.740 --> 01:36:26.740
wellness company or the idea that the wellness company is trying to help people, you're still

01:36:26.740 --> 01:36:33.740
asking a question that gets you to accept a model where there is a novel virus that does

01:36:33.740 --> 01:36:38.740
need probably, or at least that it's a relevant question, do we need new treatments for it?

01:36:38.740 --> 01:36:40.740
Were these new treatments effective?

01:36:40.740 --> 01:36:41.740
What did they do?

01:36:41.740 --> 01:36:46.740
And the crazy part about it is, is that there might be a kernel of truth in there.

01:36:46.740 --> 01:36:51.740
That's the part that I'm going to go all the way back to Zev himself, who's the only person

01:36:51.740 --> 01:36:57.740
that I would consider in that group of people and those following as being the person I'd

01:36:57.740 --> 01:36:59.740
want to think about listening to.

01:36:59.740 --> 01:37:03.740
When I look at the videos of Zev, when I listen to what he said about the transfection and

01:37:03.740 --> 01:37:09.740
when I listen to what he says about RNA viruses in general, his insistence was that zinc is

01:37:09.740 --> 01:37:17.740
a primary limiting factor when it comes to fighting or repelling these RNA-based viruses,

01:37:17.740 --> 01:37:24.740
because the enzymes that degrade them, that can repel them, that can activate them, that

01:37:24.740 --> 01:37:30.740
work, I guess, with toll receptors and whatever.

01:37:30.740 --> 01:37:34.740
There's a lot of zinc-related processes there that you don't want to be short on it.

01:37:34.740 --> 01:37:38.740
You want to make sure you've got enough of it, and that was his argument.

01:37:38.740 --> 01:37:42.740
And so I find it very interesting that we're spending an enormous amount of time on these

01:37:42.740 --> 01:37:49.740
fake social platforms, asking what I think are probably irrelevantly parallel questions

01:37:49.740 --> 01:37:57.740
to what we need to be asking, which is, is this fundamental statement that Zev Zelenko made

01:37:57.740 --> 01:38:04.740
right before he died, from his car in a mobile phone video, that it was a national security

01:38:04.740 --> 01:38:12.740
secret priority to tell everybody that basically zinc plus quesareton, or zinc plus this green

01:38:12.740 --> 01:38:18.740
T extract, was a pretty good countermeasure against most RNA viruses, especially those

01:38:18.740 --> 01:38:23.740
that are transmitted by aerosol, and infect your lungs.

01:38:23.740 --> 01:38:27.740
I just find it very curious.

01:38:27.740 --> 01:38:33.740
And so these people probably have been bamboozled into believing that their daughter

01:38:33.740 --> 01:38:37.740
definitely had flu, so there's no reason to give her antibiotics.

01:38:37.740 --> 01:38:40.740
And she probably died of sepsis.

01:38:40.740 --> 01:38:43.740
She probably died, and they're going to say it.

01:38:43.740 --> 01:38:47.740
What does sepsis do? It's a multi-organ failure thing. Ready?

01:38:47.740 --> 01:38:49.740
Nice our eyes.

01:38:49.740 --> 01:38:51.740
And...

01:38:55.740 --> 01:38:59.740
And around the wall, and we'll tear you up, so that she's not breathing, and I can run

01:38:59.740 --> 01:39:04.740
down, and I still remember her on the floor.

01:39:04.740 --> 01:39:07.740
Mom giving her CPR.

01:39:07.740 --> 01:39:09.740
I never had to do that before.

01:39:09.740 --> 01:39:11.740
I never had to do that before.

01:39:11.740 --> 01:39:16.740
Is she really crying? I'm starting to not even believe this.

01:39:16.740 --> 01:39:19.740
All I could do is dial 911.

01:39:19.740 --> 01:39:21.740
Oh, we needed that.

01:39:21.740 --> 01:39:23.740
911, what's going on there?

01:39:23.740 --> 01:39:25.740
My daughter's 17 years old.

01:39:25.740 --> 01:39:26.740
She's not breathing.

01:39:26.740 --> 01:39:28.740
She's not breathing.

01:39:28.740 --> 01:39:30.740
Okay, I'm setting the turn.

01:39:30.740 --> 01:39:32.740
Help me now, just stay online with me, okay?

01:39:32.740 --> 01:39:33.740
Please.

01:39:33.740 --> 01:39:34.740
Please.

01:39:34.740 --> 01:39:35.740
Please.

01:39:35.740 --> 01:39:36.740
Please.

01:39:36.740 --> 01:39:37.740
Come over here.

01:39:37.740 --> 01:39:39.740
I don't remember.

01:39:39.740 --> 01:39:40.740
He kind of died past him.

01:39:40.740 --> 01:39:43.740
I just remember a pair of blue heads that kneeled down on the other side of her.

01:39:43.740 --> 01:39:45.740
And he told me they'd take over, and I stepped away.

01:39:45.740 --> 01:39:46.740
Even when the...

01:39:46.740 --> 01:39:48.740
I don't doubt that her daughter died.

01:39:48.740 --> 01:39:49.740
I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that.

01:39:49.740 --> 01:39:50.740
It just was weird.

01:39:50.740 --> 01:39:54.740
It looked like she was kind of manufacturing that emotion, you know?

01:39:54.740 --> 01:39:57.740
You might do that for a TV show, and it's just unfortunate.

01:39:57.740 --> 01:39:59.740
But it felt like that to me, sorry.

01:39:59.740 --> 01:40:01.740
You know, I waved at the helicopter.

01:40:01.740 --> 01:40:04.740
You know, everything's fine.

01:40:04.740 --> 01:40:08.740
I had no clue.

01:40:08.740 --> 01:40:16.740
Now we have more sound effects and stuff.

01:40:16.740 --> 01:40:19.740
I mean, come on, come on.

01:40:19.740 --> 01:40:26.740
You know, they told us that you didn't make it, and I said,

01:40:26.740 --> 01:40:27.740
I want to see her.

01:40:27.740 --> 01:40:31.740
And they said, you never recognize her for what we've had to do to her.

01:40:31.740 --> 01:40:35.740
Because the flu actually killed all of her organs long before she actually died.

01:40:35.740 --> 01:40:36.740
See?

01:40:36.740 --> 01:40:37.740
I told you.

01:40:37.740 --> 01:40:39.740
I still think she had to be coming home.

01:40:39.740 --> 01:40:41.740
Sepsis is a great call.

01:40:41.740 --> 01:40:43.740
I think that was really a great call.

01:40:43.740 --> 01:40:45.740
And then you have...

01:40:45.740 --> 01:40:52.740
And then what is really crazy is, again, my studious chat is already on it.

01:40:52.740 --> 01:40:58.740
Of course, Paul Merrick is being kind of overshadowed by a lot of the people he travels with.

01:40:58.740 --> 01:41:04.740
And people are poo-pooing his treatments for sepsis.

01:41:04.740 --> 01:41:07.740
And it's just...

01:41:07.740 --> 01:41:09.740
I think Paul Merrick is one of the good ones.

01:41:09.740 --> 01:41:17.740
I think Paul Merrick has been upstaged by a number of people because that was what their job was.

01:41:17.740 --> 01:41:22.740
And he's too humble of a guy to say anything he probably didn't even notice it.

01:41:22.740 --> 01:41:26.740
I like Paul a lot.

01:41:26.740 --> 01:41:29.740
And I think he's a very kind-hearted man.

01:41:29.740 --> 01:41:33.740
And I know that he's aware that there's a lot of liars out there.

01:41:33.740 --> 01:41:41.740
And I do really think that he's one of those dudes who just needed to be in the background.

01:41:41.740 --> 01:41:43.740
And so that's where he has been.

01:41:43.740 --> 01:41:50.740
I mean, not that he's not putting everything on the line or hasn't been fighting and traveling around the world doing the best he can.

01:41:50.740 --> 01:41:55.740
I'm just saying that he hasn't been on Tucker Carlson for a reason.

01:41:55.740 --> 01:41:58.740
Will he be on Jimmy Dorr?

01:41:58.740 --> 01:42:00.740
I doubt it.

01:42:00.740 --> 01:42:05.740
You know, will Paul Merrick be tapped for NIH head?

01:42:05.740 --> 01:42:07.740
I definitely doubt it.

01:42:07.740 --> 01:42:09.740
You know, that's what I mean.

01:42:09.740 --> 01:42:13.740
Being in the world as a parent is losing their child.

01:42:13.740 --> 01:42:16.740
This is the most unnatural thing to happen to a human being.

01:42:16.740 --> 01:42:22.740
And you stand next to it and you think, goodness, I am there to prevent this from happening.

01:42:22.740 --> 01:42:25.740
And sometimes I cannot.

01:42:25.740 --> 01:42:29.740
And sometimes I don't know why I cannot.

01:42:29.740 --> 01:42:32.740
That sounds also out of German, okay.

01:42:32.740 --> 01:42:36.740
The question of how and why one particular person may die from-

01:42:36.740 --> 01:42:38.740
Listen to this music.

01:42:38.740 --> 01:42:42.740
The million dollar question that we absolutely need to tackle.

01:42:42.740 --> 01:42:45.740
It is surprising how much we still need to learn about flu.

01:42:45.740 --> 01:42:48.740
A disease which causes worldwide epidemics every year.

01:42:48.740 --> 01:42:50.740
I find that extraordinary.

01:42:50.740 --> 01:42:54.740
So she wants to find out why some people die and some people don't.

01:42:54.740 --> 01:42:58.740
And she imagines that it has nothing to do with the treatment.

01:42:58.740 --> 01:43:01.740
She assumes it doesn't.

01:43:01.740 --> 01:43:06.740
And in fact, is asking the question based on the idea that it must be genetic.

01:43:06.740 --> 01:43:15.740
It must be a sum total of their genetic and physiological background that means they're going to survive or it's going to be asymptomatic.

01:43:15.740 --> 01:43:29.740
You see, they're laying down the whole narrative that this girl was just an unfortunate random congruence of like, you know, bad genes and bad flu virus sequence.

01:43:29.740 --> 01:43:33.740
And that flu virus sequence happened to be really not the one that she needed.

01:43:33.740 --> 01:43:35.740
Wow.

01:43:35.740 --> 01:43:38.740
Our little raspiness in her chest. The flu tells came back positive.

01:43:38.740 --> 01:43:42.740
I actually remember saying, okay, it's just the flu. Like it was never a deal.

01:43:42.740 --> 01:43:46.740
It spreads across the globe, hospitalizing three to five million.

01:43:46.740 --> 01:43:50.740
Within 24 hours, she would contribute to it.

01:43:50.740 --> 01:43:52.740
Look at this.

01:43:52.740 --> 01:43:55.740
She's using 200,000 every year.

01:43:55.740 --> 01:43:56.740
What?

01:43:56.740 --> 01:43:58.740
As they were coding her.

01:43:58.740 --> 01:44:01.740
The baby girl scarlet and pronounced dead.

01:44:01.740 --> 01:44:06.740
Are these all people that didn't get antibiotics that should have had them? Ask that question.

01:44:06.740 --> 01:44:11.740
Have we been doing this every year?

01:44:11.740 --> 01:44:18.740
I'm actually wondering now.

01:44:18.740 --> 01:44:23.740
The majority of the adult insurance patients have some thing that we call a risk factor.

01:44:23.740 --> 01:44:27.740
They're a weak immune system before they have diabetes or obesity.

01:44:27.740 --> 01:44:30.740
Pregnant women have a risk for both themselves as well as the child.

01:44:30.740 --> 01:44:32.740
Okay, we know these factors.

01:44:32.740 --> 01:44:35.740
Jessica Hockett thinks that, too, that the flu shot actually does this.

01:44:35.740 --> 01:44:42.740
I agree that even the most healthy, young, unhappy, playful person is taken away from this planet within a couple of days.

01:44:42.740 --> 01:44:44.740
Every year.

01:44:44.740 --> 01:44:47.740
What a story she tells herself.

01:44:47.740 --> 01:44:48.740
Nice.

01:44:48.740 --> 01:44:51.740
But what experts are really afraid of is a new strain of flu.

01:44:51.740 --> 01:44:53.740
That's how I want to raise my kids.

01:44:53.740 --> 01:44:54.740
Can I show you?

01:44:54.740 --> 01:44:58.740
And you can help me if you want to donate, you know, a million dollars.

01:44:58.740 --> 01:44:59.740
That's what I would do with it.

01:44:59.740 --> 01:45:03.740
I would start a biology school out in the wild of Pennsylvania.

01:45:03.740 --> 01:45:06.740
But what experts are weird bikes and hunting?

01:45:06.740 --> 01:45:08.740
When the police...

01:45:08.740 --> 01:45:10.740
The population hasn't been exposed to before.

01:45:10.740 --> 01:45:11.740
Please fund me.

01:45:11.740 --> 01:45:15.740
One that almost no one will have any immunity against.

01:45:15.740 --> 01:45:20.740
When we think about the threat of a disease spreading around the world is a pandemic threat.

01:45:20.740 --> 01:45:23.740
Obviously airborne infections are at the very top.

01:45:23.740 --> 01:45:31.740
Things like SARS and flu are something that we know is difficult to control because of the way it spreads through aerosol.

01:45:31.740 --> 01:45:36.740
Most people become infectious with the flu before they even have symptoms.

01:45:36.740 --> 01:45:37.740
No immunity.

01:45:37.740 --> 01:45:45.740
But it can travel clearly across the world with an infectious disease incubating in them without them even knowing that they're sick yet.

01:45:45.740 --> 01:45:51.740
In 2009, a new flu emerged, H1N1, also known as swine flu.

01:45:51.740 --> 01:45:58.740
We now know it first appeared in the U.S. in the pig industry, initially infecting people at state and county fairs.

01:45:58.740 --> 01:46:04.740
In a little over a year, swine flu infected around 1.3 billion people.

01:46:04.740 --> 01:46:08.740
It was the most common shared experience on Earth.

01:46:08.740 --> 01:46:16.740
Fluent poses a strong pandemic threat because it has the ability to be both very contagious and very deadly.

01:46:16.740 --> 01:46:24.740
You're really not wrong, right?

01:46:24.740 --> 01:46:28.740
And there's this place in Lausanne, Switzerland called the Chateau.

01:46:28.740 --> 01:46:33.740
And they have their own beer and they also have their own pizza.

01:46:33.740 --> 01:46:50.740
And while I was studying in Lausanne as a grad student, visiting Henry Markham's lab and staying with Rodrigo in Sonya,

01:46:50.740 --> 01:46:55.740
the second time I was there while those were the days.

01:46:56.740 --> 01:47:07.740
And the EPFL in Lausanne is just this technical university in Switzerland on the shore of Lake Geneva.

01:47:07.740 --> 01:47:11.740
And they have this little bar and they made pizza.

01:47:11.740 --> 01:47:24.740
And I can't say, I think honestly, if I was given one last hour in time to spend with my best friend and wife.

01:47:25.740 --> 01:47:30.740
Before everything vanished.

01:47:30.740 --> 01:47:41.740
Without a doubt, I would go back to an evening at the Chateau in Lausanne and be able to order an apology and pizza and have some kind of beer that they would have on tap and

01:47:42.740 --> 01:47:45.740
hands it across the table from her.

01:47:45.740 --> 01:47:53.740
And I don't know that that's, I want my sons to be able to have that trip.

01:47:53.740 --> 01:48:06.740
I want my sons to be able to also experience pizza on a on a terrace in Italy and understand that they are at the peak of civilization.

01:48:07.740 --> 01:48:12.740
And appreciate how sacred it is where we are.

01:48:12.740 --> 01:48:19.740
The rich history and how long it took us to wake up. That's what I see coming.

01:48:19.740 --> 01:48:27.740
But it's going to take a lot of pain and it's going to take a lot more action than my own, a lot more action than this stream.

01:48:27.740 --> 01:48:30.740
But I'm really happy you guys are here.

01:48:30.740 --> 01:48:35.740
Wow.

01:48:35.740 --> 01:48:40.740
What we're most worried about right now is this bird flu that we know is highly pathogenic.

01:48:40.740 --> 01:48:41.740
Bird flu.

01:48:41.740 --> 01:48:44.740
Bird flu.

01:48:44.740 --> 01:48:50.740
Currently this deadly new bird flu doesn't spread easily between people.

01:48:50.740 --> 01:48:54.740
I mean, that's part of the script, right? Listen to what he says.

01:48:54.740 --> 01:48:59.740
The age five and one kills between 50 and 60% of the people it infects.

01:48:59.740 --> 01:49:03.740
Well, where does that statistic come from? You know, they make that statistic.

01:49:03.740 --> 01:49:08.740
He might even be just pulling it out of his back pocket.

01:49:08.740 --> 01:49:13.740
Currently this deadly new bird flu doesn't spread easily between people.

01:49:13.740 --> 01:49:18.740
But it is spreading rapidly among wild birds in poultry.

01:49:18.740 --> 01:49:23.740
Experts are afraid this could be a pandemic threat.

01:49:24.740 --> 01:49:27.740
It's a live poultry market. So the birds are alive.

01:49:27.740 --> 01:49:34.740
And when they're sold, they're sold alive because people value the fact that it's very fresh meat.

01:49:34.740 --> 01:49:40.740
Why do they value that? Well, because it tastes better because it's healthier.

01:49:40.740 --> 01:49:46.740
And you know, a live animal has a lot longer keep, right?

01:49:46.740 --> 01:49:49.740
If you had like 10 chickens and you wanted to sell them over a week,

01:49:49.740 --> 01:49:53.740
it would be a lot better than butchering them on Monday and then selling them until Friday, right?

01:49:53.740 --> 01:49:57.740
I mean, come on. This is just absurd.

01:49:57.740 --> 01:50:08.740
So you buy your chicken or your duck alive and then it is killed and cleaned and emptied, of course, eviscerated.

01:50:08.740 --> 01:50:14.740
The viscera go into some of these buckets here and then the birds are put in hot water

01:50:14.740 --> 01:50:20.740
and then put in these drums where these little plastic tubings help get rid of the feathers.

01:50:20.740 --> 01:50:24.740
And then when the birds have been defethered, eviscerated and cleaned,

01:50:24.740 --> 01:50:28.740
then they're cut up and they're given back to the person who bought it.

01:50:28.740 --> 01:50:33.740
The issue here is that the water is the same to clean all the ducks and chickens.

01:50:33.740 --> 01:50:41.740
The other issue is that these people are waiting in viscera feathers and the water that serves to clean them.

01:50:42.740 --> 01:50:45.740
So there's really a lot, a lot of virus here.

01:50:45.740 --> 01:50:49.740
A lot of virus here and those people don't die.

01:50:49.740 --> 01:50:54.740
The vast majority of them are fine for generations.

01:50:54.740 --> 01:51:00.740
So what are they really talking about here? There's virus here. Let's show me it. Quantify it.

01:51:00.740 --> 01:51:05.740
They won't do that, but they will voice that model of reality on you.

01:51:05.740 --> 01:51:10.740
And that's where I really think we've upped our game a little bit because the model of reality

01:51:10.740 --> 01:51:15.740
that this guy has accepted and is foisting on us because we're listening to him

01:51:15.740 --> 01:51:19.740
explain what he does and what his questions are about the world.

01:51:19.740 --> 01:51:26.740
We are accepting his assumptions and his assumptions are a model of reality.

01:51:26.740 --> 01:51:31.740
And so if you see those assumptions as a model of reality and then use it to make predictions

01:51:31.740 --> 01:51:37.740
with your imagination about what that model predicts about reality and about the future,

01:51:37.740 --> 01:51:42.740
you can then very easily see, but this guy doesn't understand reality because his model

01:51:42.740 --> 01:51:46.740
doesn't make any verifiable predictions.

01:51:46.740 --> 01:51:49.740
Oh, I'm getting good at this.

01:51:49.740 --> 01:51:53.740
In 2011, when the Pasteur Institute started monitoring the wash water,

01:51:53.740 --> 01:51:58.740
18% of the water samples were positive for H5N1.

01:51:59.740 --> 01:52:03.740
Water samples monitored by what PCR? So here we are again,

01:52:03.740 --> 01:52:08.740
laying down a narrative based on assumptions that this is a high fidelity test,

01:52:08.740 --> 01:52:13.740
a high fidelity way of tracking these RNA signals.

01:52:13.740 --> 01:52:18.740
These RNA signals that are super deadly concentrated in these places,

01:52:18.740 --> 01:52:20.740
but we can just walk around here.

01:52:20.740 --> 01:52:26.740
We don't need to protect ourselves from viruses that we're not even native to.

01:52:26.740 --> 01:52:31.740
Think about how much contradiction is in this picture alone.

01:52:31.740 --> 01:52:38.740
As he was looking down, almost describing it fearfully, now he's just gone down into the soup

01:52:38.740 --> 01:52:40.740
and it's totally okay.

01:52:40.740 --> 01:52:43.740
It's fine. Who cares? Look at this.

01:52:43.740 --> 01:52:47.740
66% of samples were positive.

01:52:47.740 --> 01:52:50.740
We know that bird food is very, very deadly.

01:52:50.740 --> 01:52:53.740
And we know swine food spreads very quickly.

01:52:53.740 --> 01:52:55.740
What we worry about is if those...

01:52:55.740 --> 01:53:00.740
The best part of meat preparation like this is I don't see any refrigerators.

01:53:00.740 --> 01:53:04.740
You know?

01:53:04.740 --> 01:53:08.740
To re-assore and then we could have a new strain that literally could spread as quickly

01:53:08.740 --> 01:53:11.740
as the swine food did but have the mortality rate of bird food.

01:53:11.740 --> 01:53:15.740
That's the big fear that we have now literally created the Petri dish that we all

01:53:15.740 --> 01:53:19.740
worried about and both of those viruses are sitting in there at the same time.

01:53:19.740 --> 01:53:24.740
See, they use the illusions. They use the cartoons that they want you to see.

01:53:24.740 --> 01:53:25.740
One of them.

01:53:25.740 --> 01:53:31.740
They have foist a model of reality on you that because of the urgency and because of their

01:53:31.740 --> 01:53:37.740
agreed consensus on what questions are important to ask, we accept the model.

01:53:37.740 --> 01:53:41.740
And that model is what they want us to pass on to our children.

01:53:41.740 --> 01:53:42.740
Holy mess.

01:53:42.740 --> 01:53:44.740
Risks. We face.

01:53:44.740 --> 01:53:46.740
This is an issue of human lives.

01:53:46.740 --> 01:53:50.740
It should be thought of in the same way that we think of terrorism protection against

01:53:50.740 --> 01:53:53.740
national disasters against national defense.

01:53:53.740 --> 01:53:59.740
This is a human security issue and it is also an economic security issue.

01:53:59.740 --> 01:54:02.740
The outbreak of SARS could trigger a global downturn.

01:54:02.740 --> 01:54:06.740
Fear of the SARS virus has caused serious financial damage to businesses and cities,

01:54:06.740 --> 01:54:07.740
even in entire countries.

01:54:07.740 --> 01:54:09.740
During the Haida SARS, nobody was going to restaurants.

01:54:09.740 --> 01:54:11.740
People didn't want to go shopping.

01:54:11.740 --> 01:54:15.740
At one point at the peak of the SARS crisis, a travel in Hong Kong was done by 80%

01:54:15.740 --> 01:54:17.740
and retail sales were done by 50%.

01:54:17.740 --> 01:54:19.740
Businesses can run out of money.

01:54:19.740 --> 01:54:24.740
Estimates of the impact SARS have been an economic impact of around 40 billion or so.

01:54:24.740 --> 01:54:31.740
If a global pandemic took place, you're looking at an economic impact measured in the trillions of dollars.

01:54:31.740 --> 01:54:35.740
2017, ladies and gentlemen, CNN Productions.

01:54:35.740 --> 01:54:38.740
Not tens or hundreds of billions.

01:54:38.740 --> 01:54:43.740
It has such a big impact on business and life.

01:54:44.740 --> 01:54:53.740
You hope the world has the capacity to see an outbreak mobilize forces and contain it, right?

01:54:53.740 --> 01:55:00.740
Unfortunately, we rarely do that, especially if the outbreak occurs in a poor country.

01:55:00.740 --> 01:55:03.740
Well, here we are in Liberia.

01:55:03.740 --> 01:55:04.740
That's Sierra Leone.

01:55:04.740 --> 01:55:06.740
And this is the border crossing.

01:55:06.740 --> 01:55:07.740
Do you see security?

01:55:07.740 --> 01:55:08.740
Do you see any military?

01:55:08.740 --> 01:55:11.740
Do you see anything that would stop someone from coming across this border?

01:55:11.740 --> 01:55:18.740
And then it not only spreads beyond the borders of the original country has occurred with Ebola in West Africa,

01:55:18.740 --> 01:55:24.740
but it crosses seas, it crosses continents, and that constitutes a pandemic.

01:55:24.740 --> 01:55:29.740
It's funny because Denny Rancore has lots of evidence that COVID couldn't really cross borders,

01:55:29.740 --> 01:55:32.740
even if they were wide open like that.

01:55:32.740 --> 01:55:35.740
Endemic is your worst case scenario.

01:55:35.740 --> 01:55:40.740
So you failed to control the outbreak, and that constitutes a pandemic.

01:55:40.740 --> 01:55:43.740
Endemic is your worst case scenario.

01:55:43.740 --> 01:55:46.740
So you failed to control the outbreak.

01:55:46.740 --> 01:55:49.740
Endemic is your worst case scenario.

01:55:49.740 --> 01:55:53.740
I didn't think I was going to find this kind of gold here.

01:55:53.740 --> 01:55:56.740
And believe it or not, endemic is the word.

01:55:56.740 --> 01:55:59.740
You don't understand what kind of clip is being made here.

01:55:59.740 --> 01:56:00.740
Are you ready?

01:56:00.740 --> 01:56:03.740
Because this is, this is, this is crazy.

01:56:03.740 --> 01:56:06.740
Because what is the fear and of endemicity?

01:56:06.740 --> 01:56:12.740
But it crosses seas, it crosses continents, and that constitutes a pandemic.

01:56:12.740 --> 01:56:15.740
Endemic is your worst case scenario.

01:56:15.740 --> 01:56:23.740
So what she's saying here is exactly the yin and yang of what Brett Weinstein said for the first two years of the pandemic.

01:56:23.740 --> 01:56:24.740
What did he say?

01:56:24.740 --> 01:56:29.740
That we need to still understand that zero COVID is possible.

01:56:30.740 --> 01:56:38.740
That was the whole argument for the masks, for the lockdown, for the justification of it because we could still get to zero COVID.

01:56:38.740 --> 01:56:43.740
That was the justification for using Ivermectin because it was 100% prophylactic.

01:56:43.740 --> 01:56:52.740
So if we had two vaccinated people and a person who was prophylactically protected, we didn't need to wear masks, but we could still get to zero COVID.

01:56:53.740 --> 01:56:54.740
Do you see?

01:56:54.740 --> 01:57:01.740
And in 2017, she was already laying down the model of reality where a virus can break.

01:57:01.740 --> 01:57:11.740
But if we respond quick enough, like we do with Ebola, then it won't spread and pandemic avoided.

01:57:12.740 --> 01:57:37.740
And so this narrative of pandemic control, epidemic control near misses and pandemic potential has been repeatedly built up from Ebola through Zika, through SARS, with ever increasing implications for what happens if the next one gets under the door.

01:57:38.740 --> 01:57:45.740
And Demicity is the worst case scenario.

01:57:45.740 --> 01:58:04.740
That is the worst case scenario that team leader Brett Weinstein was advocating vigorously to avoid by using the phrase zero COVID is a goal for a very long time.

01:58:05.740 --> 01:58:10.740
I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.

01:58:10.740 --> 01:58:16.740
You failed to control the outbreak. You failed to control the epidemic and you failed to control the pandemic.

01:58:16.740 --> 01:58:24.740
And now that micro is a permanent feature in the biological landscape that humans are living in.

01:58:25.740 --> 01:58:36.740
So your behavior determines the outcome. If we would just cooperate, if we would just follow public health directives, this kind of thing could be avoided, but there is a danger.

01:58:36.740 --> 01:58:46.740
There is a danger. If we don't follow public health directives, there is a danger that a virus will become endemic.

01:58:46.740 --> 01:58:48.740
And then what?

01:58:48.740 --> 01:58:50.740
Well, that's the worst case scenario.

01:58:51.740 --> 01:58:54.740
First example of that is HIV.

01:58:54.740 --> 01:59:02.740
We started off with tiny outbreaks in a handful of places and the world responded completely incorrectly.

01:59:02.740 --> 01:59:12.740
It became pandemic and now endemic. So we have 37 million people living infected with HIV and there is no country on the planet without this virus.

01:59:12.740 --> 01:59:16.740
Before the devastation of AIDS, we could have avoided smallpox.

01:59:17.740 --> 01:59:21.740
Smallpox killed 500 million people in the 20th century alone.

01:59:21.740 --> 01:59:25.740
More than all the wars in that century combined.

01:59:25.740 --> 01:59:33.740
Whenever an infectious disease truly catches hold, it forces health workers to make impossible choices about the public's freedom and rights.

01:59:35.740 --> 01:59:37.740
I was the youngest person in the smallpox team.

01:59:37.740 --> 01:59:44.740
And I was certainly the only person in the history of the United Nations recruited from the name Corioli Baba Ashram.

01:59:47.740 --> 01:59:55.740
We had eradicated smallpox in much of British. It was a big state in the middle of India.

01:59:55.740 --> 02:00:01.740
And we were about to do our victory dance and then suddenly, across the border, we started getting new outbreaks.

02:00:01.740 --> 02:00:04.740
And they all came from one place, a place called Tathanabir.

02:00:04.740 --> 02:00:06.740
First place we went to was the railway station.

02:00:06.740 --> 02:00:11.740
And it was a scene from the worst nightmare you ever had in your life.

02:00:12.740 --> 02:00:18.740
There were dozens of people stretched out near the tracks in the waiting room on the cement dead from smallpox.

02:00:18.740 --> 02:00:21.740
It smelled from the...yeah.

02:00:22.740 --> 02:00:26.740
The Tathanagar was the home of the Tathan iron and steel company.

02:00:26.740 --> 02:00:30.740
So I just went to the company's house. It was almost midnight when I got there.

02:00:30.740 --> 02:00:35.740
I said, I need cheaps. I need managers. I need doctors. I need vaccines.

02:00:36.740 --> 02:00:40.740
The next day I had 100 cheaps. We set up training programs.

02:00:40.740 --> 02:00:45.740
We used maps to develop a strategy and we took the 100 cheaps and we built our little army.

02:00:47.740 --> 02:00:50.740
We were doing great in 2000 cases of smallpox.

02:00:50.740 --> 02:00:57.740
We were stopping the disease in Tathanagar, but still, as we're vaccinating everybody, the trains were carrying people away.

02:00:57.740 --> 02:00:59.740
We're still exporting smallpox.

02:00:59.740 --> 02:01:01.740
We closed the railway station.

02:01:01.740 --> 02:01:05.740
Did you see how they were doing it? That's variation.

02:01:06.740 --> 02:01:13.740
That's technically speaking, not intramuscular injection of a combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system.

02:01:13.740 --> 02:01:18.740
That was inoculating the skin, which is called variolation.

02:01:18.740 --> 02:01:24.740
It's interesting, right? Interesting, very interesting that that's in the video, but they don't say it.

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Close the buses. We quarantined the city of 600,000 people. Nobody could leave the city unless they were vaccinated.

02:01:32.740 --> 02:01:38.740
Of course, Larry is leaving a tail in that entire area around Tathanagar in less than six months.

02:01:38.740 --> 02:01:41.740
Chief mythologist without a doubt.

02:01:41.740 --> 02:01:48.740
Coming back, we traced it to a tribal group called the Ho Tribe.

02:01:48.740 --> 02:01:53.740
So I went and visited the members of that tribe and I said, well, you've got to take smallpox vaccine.

02:01:53.740 --> 02:01:55.740
You've got to stop this transmission.

02:01:55.740 --> 02:01:59.740
And he said, I won't take it. I do whatever God's will is.

02:02:00.740 --> 02:02:03.740
If I'm to get smallpox, I'll get it.

02:02:03.740 --> 02:02:06.740
After a while, more cases kept coming out from the Ho community.

02:02:06.740 --> 02:02:13.740
And we all agreed that we were going to have to forcibly vaccinate these Ho tribesmen.

02:02:13.740 --> 02:02:26.740
In the middle of the night, we went out into the villages, into the jungle, and we surrounded them and pulled them out of their houses and vaccinated them.

02:02:26.740 --> 02:02:32.740
And then after we had broken into their house, pulled them out of bed, forcibly vaccinated them.

02:02:32.740 --> 02:02:42.740
This dignified tribal elder looked at me and reached over to the vine, and there was one fruit, a cucumber, a kind of gourd.

02:02:42.740 --> 02:02:47.740
He pulled it off, and he cut it, and he put it on a leaf, and he offered it to us to eat.

02:02:47.740 --> 02:02:53.740
He said, I don't like what you did. I think you're wrong. But that's over now.

02:02:54.740 --> 02:02:56.740
Now I see that you are a guest in my house.

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The only thing I have to offer is this cucumber.

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And so you ask yourself, were we right?

02:03:06.740 --> 02:03:10.740
We did a lot of things that, in their individual...

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Did he report the absolute drop off of smallpox? Did no one else die?

02:03:18.740 --> 02:03:22.740
I mean, that's the story he's implying, but he didn't say it yet.

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Keep that in mind. Did this forest vaccination campaign result in a complete eradication of smallpox?

02:03:30.740 --> 02:03:32.740
Or did people keep dying for a while?

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Listen, if I put the harshest light of truth on it right now, I would be begging to find an alternative way to do it.

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And I asked myself, did I exaggerate the importance of what I did?

02:03:43.740 --> 02:03:52.740
Did I place myself above some kind of moral compass? Did I quit too early trying to find a way to accomplish the same thing?

02:03:52.740 --> 02:03:58.740
But that's sort of between me and God and me and my conscience.

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Smallpox has been eradicated, and I'm thrilled about that.

02:04:04.740 --> 02:04:11.740
Ooh, it's hard for me to take that seriously. Wow. Ooh, geez.

02:04:13.740 --> 02:04:23.740
The only disease ever eradicated, is that what it said? Sorry, I'm going to go back.

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The idea... Oh, no, smallpox.

02:04:28.740 --> 02:04:45.740
The idea of night raids or forcible vaccination today is just unthinkable.

02:04:45.740 --> 02:04:48.740
There's a few big things that are very different.

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Internal politics, global politics, extremism, the whole issue of human rights, you have to be transparent,

02:04:55.740 --> 02:04:59.740
because the wrong information can actually contribute to the spread of a disease.

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Oh, boy.

02:05:00.740 --> 02:05:01.740
I'm particularly interested in that.

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The wrong information can contribute to the spread.

02:05:04.740 --> 02:05:07.740
The way that rumors replicate and spread are very similar to how viruses spread.

02:05:07.740 --> 02:05:15.740
They need a host to them, because the wrong information can actually contribute to the spread of a disease.

02:05:15.740 --> 02:05:18.740
I'm particularly interested in looking at rumors.

02:05:18.740 --> 02:05:19.740
Rumors?

02:05:19.740 --> 02:05:21.740
Rumors replicate and spread...

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Rumors replicate and spread are very similar to how viruses spread.

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Are you ready? Are you ready for this? Wow!

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That is some rich stuff right there.

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To be transparent, because the wrong information can actually contribute to the spread of the disease.

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I'm particularly interested in looking at rumors.

02:05:44.740 --> 02:05:49.740
The way that rumors replicate and spread are very similar to how viruses spread.

02:05:49.740 --> 02:05:53.740
They need a host, they need to be supported to stay alive and thrive.

02:05:53.740 --> 02:05:54.740
Oh, there we go.

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Okay, hi.

02:05:56.740 --> 02:06:01.740
Rumors have been around since Man Existed, but I think right now what's changed with technology,

02:06:01.740 --> 02:06:05.740
particularly social media and the internet, is the global spread and the speed.

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I mean, look at Twitter. You need 140 characters or something.

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And that's all you need to spread some of the rumors and perceptions that we're certainly tracking.

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And one of the things we found is that rumors thrive.

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There's Alex Jones.

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Not for nothing that Alex Jones is there. That's not by accident.

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CNN is promoting Alex Jones in a movie.

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Really?

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Genetically modified, lab made virus in 2017. That sounds crazy.

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See it now?

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And one of the things we found is that rumors thrive in times of uncertainty.

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They thrive in times where people need an answer or eager for an answer.

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The old model of how you respond to an infectious disease outbreak is you issue some sort of, you know,

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firm warning to the public and tell them what they shouldn't do.

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That doesn't work anymore because people are responding to rumors on Twitter or Facebook

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and they want to engage and they want to challenge and they want to have their own opinions about what's going on.

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When an epidemic occurs, there is a clinical management, but it's also the reactions of society.

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And managing that can be as important as actually dealing with the epidemic itself.

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Okay, good afternoon everybody.

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This is the third meeting of our Task Force on Ebola.

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And then John, would you like to give an update because where we are with the epidemic?

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I'm very worried and to be honest.

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President Ellen Johnson-Salith likened the outbreak to a war.

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Cases in death continue to surge, riots are breaking out.

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As Ebola continued to spread across West Africa, the government's implemented massive quarantines.

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Distrust exploded.

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Security forces locked roads with scrap wood and parked wire.

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We were forced open in isolation, war hundreds clashed with the police who fired light rounds and teared us.

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Liberia has tried, we've used our own resources, but obviously we have limitations and we hope that the international communities see this,

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and so the international catastrophe.

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Two Americans who have been infected will be set home for care in Atlanta.

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The opposite people in this debate, the few individuals, before they saw that last time.

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It became infected whilst working as a nurse in East DC, I really am.

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The news photographer for NBC just diagnosed with Ebola.

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Much like the other Americans before him, he will be flown back to the United States for treatment.

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That's him?

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If that was real, right? Think about that.

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Think about how crazy that is.

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That somebody who's sick would be flown back to the United States with a disease that could potentially kill billions.

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For that reporter, it's so important that they come home.

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They couldn't go to a local hospital or they couldn't fly the medicine there.

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Think about the incongruence of that.

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What does that even mean?

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I thought that their whole model of this was they were looking down from that bridge and they were saying,

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Look, they're just the problem is those people are just swimming in the parts of those birds.

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And so there's just virus everywhere.

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And then they went down there with no mask.

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This is the same thing.

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These people got infected with something that could potentially kill a city.

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And so they flew him home.

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What?

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Right?

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No, he's from the States.

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Oh, he's here.

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Oh, he's in there.

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Oh, my God.

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In a repeating pattern, the world only really started to pay attention to the Ebola epidemic when foreign workers began to fall sick.

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The international response is continuing to ramp up.

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We're going to create an air bridge to get health workers and medical supplies into West Africa.

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Fast food, a billion euros across Europe will be galvanized.

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The first thing we're going to do is we're going to join in extending health care professionals.

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We're going to continue to come to the Ebola epidemic when foreign workers began to fall sick.

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There are 84 flights a week leaving these affected countries.

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First time the Ebola virus is in the United States.

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It's almost done to them contracted Ebola in Liberia before flying to Dallas, Texas.

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He's flying on his exit floor so he could leave Liberia.

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Why not just shut down the flights and secure the border?

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The travel ban may make sense.

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We should not be allowing these folks in.

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As of today, one case came from Liberia.

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One.

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I'll be more.

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Still riding in the car with this guy.

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They say, let's close the borders.

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Nobody from Africa will be allowed in.

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They don't even know they're Western.

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The Eastern South Africa is.

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Nobody from Africa should be allowed in and close our airports.

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I mean, that's a combination of ignorance and arrogance that could create ruination for our economic system, our financial system.

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We're laying down the narrative of what could happen.

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The worst case scenario is our entire economy collapse.

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And who would want that to happen?

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Who would be in a position to take advantage of that?

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Now, I'm going to end this video here because it is two hours in.

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I want to see if peer tube does it and there's about 50, 30 minutes left.

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So I'll watch this either later tonight or I'll see what's in here and maybe just get some highlights out of it.

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Thank you very much for joining me this afternoon for this throwback Wednesday.

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I do want to make sure that I give a shout out to the Broken Science Initiative one more time.

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This current slide here, this was a way back Wednesday.

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We went back to a CNN movie from 2017.

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We watched the first hour of it.

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And I think it was a pretty good insight into how this potential, pandemic potential has been laid out as a narrative and slowly built in its potential from Ebola to Zika to SARS to Mares.

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They ramped it up behind the scenes.

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They ramped it up on TV.

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They ramped it up on social media.

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They ramped it up in bureaucracies.

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They ramped it up with NGOs.

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And this has been a building narrative that everybody has agreed has got to be true.

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And that illusion of consensus has now been exponentially ramped up with regard to the response to this SARS-CoV-2 and COVID fiasco.

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That's where we are.

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That's what I really think is happening.

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And I think we are starting to really shed light on it by realizing what models these people are giving us of the real world.

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And then if you just use your imagination, use what you know, use the biology that we know to try and use that model to predict something, a measurement, an observation in the future.

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You're going to find that most of the models that have been foisted on us are absolutely ridiculous and can't be verified with prediction.

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And in fact, we saw that in this video.

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People standing over complaining about how much of virus was down there and how the bird flu could kill 50% of everybody that gets infected.

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And then they went down there with shorts and short sleeves and no masks on.

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So what story are they telling themselves?

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If the Ebola people that get infected get flown home to their home countries, how serious are they really taking this pathogen?

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It's incongruency, ladies and gentlemen, and it shows that the model of infectious disease that they've been foisting on us, they don't even believe it themselves.

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They're just so inept that they don't realize how their daily lives are just one big contradiction, but I think we can break that illusion.

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I'm really excited about it.

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The illusion of there being a badcave virus, you know, the illusion that there are petri dishes that we need to be afraid of.

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Illusions that there are mouse colonies that are humanized and therefore super dangerous.

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The molecular biologist like Ralph Barrett might stitch something together that could kill a billion people.

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This is the worst case scenario. The illusion of consensus is about that and we cannot pass this mythology on to our children.

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Thank you very much. I'll see you again tomorrow.

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Thank you.