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David has had to defer and J.J. Kooey is jumping into the breach. Welcome to today's discussion.

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This group is founded by Dr. Stephen Frost with a desire to pursue truth, ethics, justice,

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freedom and health. Stephen has stood up against government and power over the years and has been

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a whistleblower and activist. His medical specialty is radiology. We comprise lots of professions

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going to speak a short time and then we're going to have plenty of Q&A and Stephen

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Frost via a long established tradition asks the first series of questions for the first 15 minutes.

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anything that may offend another. We come with an attitude and perspective of love not fear. Fear

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is the opposite of love. Fear squashes you, love on the other hand expands you and in my show last

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week I talked about fear porn just to hold those two words in your head. Governments are love it

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be watching this by recording. Welcome and now welcome again JJ Kubi who has presented twice to

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us before this is his third time and please go back and look at the recordings of his presentations.

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They are excellent, they are provocative, they are meaningful and thank you JJ for jumping into

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the last moment to replace Dr David Martin and thank you Stephen Frost again for all creating

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this agreement for organising JJ. Over to you JJ you have screen sharing rights what we're in

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your hands. Thank you very much anybody who's watching now on the zoom if you don't already see me as

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the big screen and only the big screen then go up to the right hand corner of your screen click

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on view and change it to speaker view instead of gallery because I'm going to control my own

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screen and so it will never override that so you need to change to that view and then you'll see me

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big and that means if you see that then you should also see me now down here in the corner

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and if that's working fine then everything should be good so I first of all I want to

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compliment you guys for being here every week multiple times sometimes for the last three years

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because we're going to require a certain level of endurance for us to make it across the finish

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line in the coming years and I say coming years because I'm quite certain that that's how long

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this battle is going to go. We can't take the bait on TV and social media which keeps us focused

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on the ground in front of us. I'm starting to really understand that the game is a longer game

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than this year or next year and in order for us to get ahead of this game we're going to have

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to start thinking a little bit farther ahead than the coming six months and so don't take the bait

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don't pay attention to the things that they're throwing in front of you even if it's google fold

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and they claim that they've figured out how they can fold all the proteins in the universe

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and they've made a little video like the one I'm playing here to trick you into the believing

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that. So I've been pitching for a while that essentially the psychological operation of the

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pandemic was one way in which they used a series of censorship and very dramatic pronouncements that

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were all uniform across the globe in order to trick us into believing that there was a mystery

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to solve and that that mystery involved a virus that circulated the globe for more than three years

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that that virus was very different and novel from any other previous virus and that that

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meant it was likely that it wasn't natural and the mystery has led us the solving of this mystery

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has essentially tricked the left and the right into believing that the solution to this mystery

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is the truth and so whether you end up believing that it's probably natural or it's probably a

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lab leak or that pandemics are something that we need to fear in the future is something that you

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won't question so I kind of said that a little awkwardly but if you come to the conclusion that

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it was a natural virus or you come to the conclusion that it was a lab leak you are still coming to

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the conclusion that we must prepare for the next one and that as our wonderful technology

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continues to grow and expand the ease with which anyone who wants to be a creep can create a pandemic

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virus will become ever more accessible to people working in their garage and that is essentially

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what they would like the average tv viewer to have come to in the last three years and this trick

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has been magical because this trick has been pulled off by a number of different people

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and I'm not necessarily accusing anyone on the screen here in particular but I'm just

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trying to use it as an illustration for how a series or a group of people that could change

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the way that we think about respiratory disease that could change the way we think about all

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cause mortality that could change the way we think about our immune response to disease

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and change the way that we think about vaccination or permanently solidify how we think about it

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could essentially allow to happen by just telling people that there's a novel virus and we have no

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idea what to do although it looks like pneumonia it's not treatable in the normal way because this

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is a novel virus and we have no idea what to do and so with the very standard you know rush to rush

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to conclusions and make sure that there's legal protection and there's also financial

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incentives they were able to use medazalam in the UK remdesivir in the united states a drug that

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has never proven therapeutic for anything and they were able to make it the standard of care

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in the united states for more than a year they were able to ventilate people to stop spread

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they told paramedics in New York City not to resuscitate heart attack victims

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because resuscitation might cause the spread of the disease and so these things are all coming out

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now three years later when we finally try to look at the death count in New York City and we find a

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four-week bomb of 20,000 excess deaths and then it goes right back to baseline and never goes up

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again and now that we have this data and we point out to people they just deny it it doesn't matter

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Jessica Hawkins data doesn't matter and now we're starting to see how this was done it was best

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described by Noam Chomsky and I'm sorry I said this last time but again I'm not prepared so

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the spectrum of debate has been limited by this this cartoon mystery that has been presented to us

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on TV and social media thrown into movies years before the pandemic so that we were primed and

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ready to go we were already knowing that viruses come out of bat caves we were already told that

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it can be accessed in laboratories with animal passage or with cell culture and we've more recently

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been told that we can stitch them together and this has always been the plan it has always been

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the plan to lie to us about this potential and then come out with a big global drama

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in order to solidify it as the new mythology under which we would be governed it is the only way

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that you could think about governing a globe you can't govern a globe with different nations

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and different languages and different religions and different cultures different music unless they

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have one unifying mythology and this is that unifying mythology that there are gain of function

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viruses that RNA can be endowed with the ability to travel from person to person with high fidelity

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for three years through millions of people and they've convinced us with all of these people

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all of these people are on narrative and it's become my life's mission to understand

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who was briefed on this silly narrative and I've been able to figure it out based on what they

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don't talk about almost no one talks about how how central it was to 2020 and 2021 that PCR was

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taken seriously we don't even talk about it anymore but this was a gigantic fraud and how many of

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our dissident leaders are talking about it but they should start with it they should start with it

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at every talk but they don't masking lockdown the fact that we now have data that shows that there

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was no spread in New York City the death certificate frauds that were documented in so many different

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states nobody seems to know but me the protocol do not resuscitate frauds that were

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were done in New York City for that month no one is still talking about it the way that they

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ventilated the way and how they treated people with remdesivir and who's responsible for that

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we're not talking about it and who's not talking about it almost everybody in the red triangle

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I'm not picking on people not calling people bad guys but you can go through their social

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media with a objective electronic comb and you can just query how often do they talk about

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remdesivir and when they do what do they say who do they talk about it with have they ever

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mentioned medazalam in the UK no american ever does so if you start to really look at it my

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friends they start to reveal themselves because they don't actually tell the truth

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they tell this story about a novel virus that is responsible for the majority of the damage

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and the majority of the crazy behavior we had to make these decisions because of the virus

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and none of these people in this red triangle for all practical purposes do not question the

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existence of the virus and i'm not saying that there isn't a virus but i am saying that there

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isn't something that was released at a point in rulon and then traveled around the world rapidly

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for three years changing variant after variant after variant that is definitely a mythology

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and in fact anybody that's questioned the protocols first or the spread or the variants

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is now in this yellow zone where you can't talk to them anymore they're irrelevant

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and so i figured out a way to really piss them off which is to save this stuff in a more correct

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way and so i believe this is very close but i've got to caveat it a little bit because some people

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don't really like what i'm saying whoops what i'm saying here

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but transfection is not immunization that's pretty simple but intramuscular injection of any

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combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb is something i've

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been saying more recently and it needs a little bit of a caveat if your goal is to augment the

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immune system so that the mucosal layer of the lungs and the gut respond in a positive way so

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that you are immune to a disease that replicates there then immunizing intramuscularly is dumb

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if there are viruses that maintain some kind of you know serum and some kind of concentration

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in the serum and therefore you need antibodies there that you got to explain it to me but for now

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today i want to end my talk with a little picture that i'll draw where i try to explain the immune

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system very simply more importantly in a way that you yourself can explain it to your friends and

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family and then explain why intramuscular injection might not be all it's cracked up to be and certainly

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transfection is not all it's cracked up to be so this is my latest sort of people map everybody in

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yellow is somebody who's still following the faith of the natural or the novel virus that we

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had to do something in the MRI probably saved people and uh the virus will come again the red

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people are just people that have blocked me and made me sure that they're probably not good players

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and the green are people who's consistency with pursuit of the truth has impressed me

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enough so that i i think they're their their track record is pretty consistent i'm not this

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is not an exhaustive list this is my own personal experience so one that if you don't know who this

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is jessica hockett should speak for your group at some point she is a teacher of teachers working

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and living in the new york city area i believe her in chicago or yeah chicago she lives in but

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she analyzed the data from new york city and compared it to chicago and found some incredible

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anomalies which i think are some of the more important discoveries in the american data since

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the start of the pandemic and really underscore the illusion that was created and specifically

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with new york i'm sure you guys all know who nick hudson is he said some of the smartest stuff

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i mean he's not always a hundred percent because he's he's trying very hard to keep as many

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possibility doors open even when i think that they're closed but that doesn't make him bad

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what i think has been so wonderful about him is because he has so succinctly articulated the

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idea that when somebody presents you with a global problem that requires global solutions you know

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it's bs and that single ideological contribution to our movement has been spectacular because i

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think it sums up about 80 percent of what the messaging needs to be going forward to the people

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who are way off the reservation and we need to save

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of course you know denny way uh jj we have had nick present to us okay great he's fantastic i don't

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know if you've had denny rancor but he's also denny is just fantastic and he's done some of the analysis

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of course that's really breaking this wide open now one of the things you might not be so aware of

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is this recent development and my work and the work of marqulak we have not really discovered but

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kind of uncovered some connections between these people in the beginning of the pandemic which would

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seem to suggest that it wouldn't be ridiculous for them to have coordinated their messaging from

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the very beginning um there are several examples of robert malone doing live streams when he first

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came public in august of 2021 with paul cotrell um paul cotrell was the first person that i ever

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live stream with in 2020 and in 2020 i had already uncovered him as fraud um calling himself a

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doctor but he's actually uh he actually did a phd in finance and he was doing a biology degree

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somewhere but he definitely wasn't a doctor and he actually said believe it or not in february of

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2020 that he was streaming a live phone call from taiwan where this woman was describing a situation

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in taiwan that was so dire and that the only thing that was working was a drug called remdesivir

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and she couldn't pronounce it but paul could now what makes it real curious about paul

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is that during every stream that i ever did with him and to me um uh in april of march in april of

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may of 2020 he was a proponent of it being a worst case scenario worst case scenario in

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new york city and arguing that he could see the cooler trucks outside of his

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apartment so it didn't matter what jay cooey was saying i can see the reality in new york city

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now interestingly george web's favorite source of biology since the beginning of the pandemic is

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none other than paul cotrell and to this day george web will defend paul cotrell as one of the heroes

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of the biology now at the same time consider the fact that robert melon and george vunden ball

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she knew each other from a professional relationship in two thousand seven and eight when they both

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worked for salve pharmaceuticals on the flu back seat which in two thousand eleven mark

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robert melon was speaking about uh in relation to fill and finish technologies

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and also presenting to the hoo directly so multiple governments then so at the start of the pandemic

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paul cotrell or sorry at the start of robert melon's emergence on to the public scene he had he

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streamed with paul cotrell he had already worked with here at vunden ball at salve so he mentions

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here at vunden ball she is one of the authorities almost immediately in his live streams and now

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he's saying that that george web over here is one of his worst enemies on the internet but

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usefully enough he links to george web's work and he links to george web's appearance on 60 minutes

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the same show that had you know peter day sack on a couple times and has had jamie mezel on a

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couple times talking about the lab leak so what i think we're starting to see here is that some

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of the people that we're pretending to be part of us are actually this fifth generation warfare

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kind of thing that have been grooming us to solve the lab leak forget about the protocols

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worry about gain a function and give up on figuring out who's responsible for this

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i think one of the reasons why you should be skeptical of karat vunden motion's recent position

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is that his position relies on the idea that the

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transfection faithfully augmented the immune system it's just that it augmented the immune

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system in a way that has pushed the virus in a particular direction and that is a spectacular

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it's a spectacular mythology where the virus the virus can be pushed around by a transfection

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in many people so what a wonderful they get he gets you to accept the power of transfection

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the the idea that viruses can transmit around the world all in one alternative theory

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and so i've been trying to break this down from the biological perspective but i think

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a really good illustration of what has occurred here sorry i got to go back

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and if you have seen this already i apologize but this is something that's really hit home

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um with people on my stream and so i thought i'd drop it in here and then i'll stop i think

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um there is an illusion of consensus that is created when you when you censor all of the people

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who you are speaking questionable or alternative views and you amplify all the people who are

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hyper on the same thing you know like build back better or whatever it's a horrible

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example but it's a good example and my argument is is that this is so complicated

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that they actually planned to create an illusion of consensus around the argument

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of a lab leak or a natural virus so much so that they have coordinated both sides

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with the heminate you know i don't know how to say that word but very vigorous defenders of

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the natural virus very vigorous defenders of the lab leak almost ridiculous right

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but that's the point because they want you to think that this debate and this consensus

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that this is the thing to argue about will lead you to think that well how can i deny it it's very

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much like an ash conformity experiment where so many people agree that this is the thing to

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figure out they must be the thing to figure out and once you jump on board you're done

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where's the illusion of consensus best illustrated is in a sitcom

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maybe you'll recall the the soup nazi maybe i'm turkey chili

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medium crab best this is one of the legendary episodes of Seinfeld

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where this guy's a real mean soup soup monger i didn't get any bread just forget it but it go

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oh excuse me i think you forgot my bread bread two dollars extra

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and now the illusion of consensus you want bread is audible three dollars

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nothing for you

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let me try it again and remove the illusion of consensus

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medium turkey chili medium crab best

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and so let me pause it to you get any bread just forget it let it go without the laughter

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it's not quite as funny i think you forgot my bread bread two dollars extra

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two dollars everyone in front of me got free bread you want bread yes please three dollars

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nothing for you

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now what does this say to you i don't know what it says to you but what it says to me

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is that intelligence agencies are the perfect medium through which to create

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the illusion of consensus on social media that there is a laboratory leak that there's a

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batcave virus that they're lying about it that those emails are weird

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that those people aren't acting correct rann paul and tony fauci fought live on tv

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it must be something significant the cdc leaked uh leaked a slide deck that says the delta

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is breaking through the vaccine and that even people who were previously infected are getting

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infected with delta oh my gosh the cdc was keeping this from us oh my goodness we found a

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d-o-d leaked lab sorry grant proposal from equal health alliance and they were going to insert

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fear and cleavage sites in coronaviruses and spray them into batcaves and this was in 2017

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so they probably did it and then that caused the pandemic we solved it

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and it sounds ridiculous but that's actually where we are the diffuse proposal was leaked

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the cdc did leak a slide deck about delta there was a slide deck leaked from the uk

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i don't know what that one's called the mhra or something like that also about one of the variants

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and they've been doing this repeatedly with the idea of ceding the narrative with social media

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personalities and on every you can't underestimate how many of these people are gaining followers

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fame comfort a lucrative sub stack simply because they agreed to push one thing

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or to not question the novelty of the virus or the necessity of doing something or the fact that

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it could come again if you don't question those three things everybody's trapped in this mythology

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forever and misleading children about this this is us telling them a new story about Santa Claus

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that is the reason instead of giving presents every year is the reason why they're going to

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need an electronic chip in their skin and so the tv scenarios are lab leak or batcave virus and

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the way to explain this is that in 2008 the earth was free of pathogen and then in 2019

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something was leaked or released or whatever and then it by itself went around the world

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RNA to RNA to RNA to RNA and that's where the biology breaks down RNA molecules can't do that

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and if you just say it that simple you don't need to say there are no RNA viruses you don't have to

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get into a debate about what diseases are real and what diseases aren't you just have to say that

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that's not how RNA works there might be local outbreaks of an infectious RNA I guess that's

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probably possible I don't know but I do know that if you put a thousand identical RNAs in a place

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in Wuhan and then put them on the street no matter how perfect they were they would not be able to

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jump from person to person with high fidelity all the way until 2024 and we could still call it the

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same thing no it's not all works and so a conflated background signal is the best way to think about

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it because again we have no data from before 2020 about whether or not anybody would test

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positive with any of these PCR tests none none whatsoever it is very similar to starting to measure

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the spread of automobiles around the world and saying there were no automobiles in 2019 and

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now there's this crazy spread of automobiles and you should look and if you I'm trying to think of

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a good analogy here but if you if you go into your garage or go outside of your house and you find

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something with four wheels you might already have an automobile and so now the premise there is is

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that the only way you would accept that as evidence of spread of automobiles in America

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is if you accept a premise that they weren't there yesterday holy crap we have two automobiles

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they were here spreading everyone the neighbors have automobiles I can see them holy cow

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and so the real biological shell game here is that before 2020 they had not a little data they had

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zero data zero nobody's sequencing coronaviruses and people nobody's mass testing for PCR

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nobody ever rolled out one of these these products before and if you listen to somebody like

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Michael Yieton explained it there's no way to to have products like this made and mass this quickly

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with the quality control that would be necessary for them to be reliable diagnostics of anything

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it's just absurd but we accepted it all

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and so the point here is to remember that it doesn't matter whether it's an endemic background

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coronavirus the protocols were murder and transfection is not medicine it doesn't matter if it was an

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infectious clone if you want to talk about that a little bit um the very quick summary for that

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in case you forgot is that DNA is quite high fidelity copying RNA is not and so that's the same

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reason why an RNA virus cannot go around the world with high fidelity for three and a half years

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because that's not how RNA works but RNA virology is based on the shortcut or the the cheat where

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you can take an RNA sequence that you're able to find in the wild you can synthetically create a

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DNA copy of that and then you can use a bacterial culture to make lots of copies of that DNA because

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DNA is quite high fidelity to copy meaning that you can make lots of copies of the same thing

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and they're pretty close to the same for millions and millions of copies then you can use an enzyme

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to change that huge collection of DNA molecules that are all identical to a pretty homogenous

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set of RNA and now that's a pure RNA clone of the original RNA sequence that you identified in the

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bat but in a purity and in a quantity that you would never be able to prepare by any natural means

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you know culturing into the dish or sampling lots of bats because again RNA doesn't copy itself

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high fidelity no matter which way and where it grows but if you make a clone of it in DNA and

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then you make a lot of that DNA then you can make a lot of that RNA and then you have a lot more

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than whatever existed nature and that that could be released in Wuhan in Iran and in America

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and anywhere that was released those people would test very PCR positive right on for that sequence

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and if you were able to create enough of it you would be able to sequence the whole thing so

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let me explain one thing about clones because I came up with this explanation earlier today on

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another interview and it'll be fun to put that in here so if you're infected I've told you this

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before if you're infected with a virus and and it's a it's a regular natural RNA coronavirus then

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as Robert Malone and others have explained a vast majority of the infectious particles that

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you inhale and that are produced from the infection are actually non-infectious particles and that's

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because the RNA copying is imperfect and the packaging is imperfect and the list is very long

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of all the things that are imperfect so we've known that there is an infectious to non-infectious

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particle ratio for all viruses and so for coronaviruses it might be 50 to 1 it might be 20 to 1 it

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might be 100 to 1 it might be 1000 to 1 nobody's really endeavored to measure it but let's just

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say it's 10 to 1 let's say that for every infectious particle that you inhale and it starts to replicate

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it will make nine non-infectious particles for every one infectious particle that's a pretty

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low ratio because actually a lot of viruses are thought to be between 20 and 50 so this is just

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one in 10 okay so I'm going to draw that picture with two squares and those are two different lungs

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so we're going to do two different infections okay so the first lung infection is one infectious

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particle is going to infect that lung okay and it's going to replicate I know we got to do we got

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to do we got to do through we got to do a total of 10 I guess that's that's how this works so we're

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going to infect it and so the 10 viral particles that get made in the first round of replication

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from this one is one and then one two three four five six seven eight nine two and these are all

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infectious or non-infectious particles and then you get one that's a good one okay if you took this

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and then this gets coughed out right then we're coughing out one infectious particle and many

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non-infectious particles you see so the odds are not great that this coronavirus is going to

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transmit it in fact that's the way that they explain coronavirus transmissions highly

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how do you say it unreliable transmission is exactly because of this this is what they would

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have told you before the pandemic now they don't say it at all but you can find papers discussing

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this idea that it's that it's this non-infectious to infectious particle ratio that makes the

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reliability of coronavirus infection low and then it's the variability in the copying of the RNA

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that makes each infection different from the last one and the RNA changes very rapidly in the

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coronavirus sequence and so how we build immunity to coronaviruses is usually through tolerance

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you try to ignore them because they're not really doing very much because most of the

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particles they make are garbage do you see now what I want you to think about very carefully

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is what happens when you get infected with a clone because when you get infected with a clone

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you're getting infected with pure RNA pure RNA meaning that if they are packaged correctly or

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it's done correctly then when you get infected you get 10

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infectious particles that would get made now sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry I just said that

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wrong number you screw this up darn it darn it darn it darn it so the point is is that in this

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in this first illustration where we're being infected by a cough right so this is

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this is somebody else transmitting infectious and non-infectious particles and then it replicates

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and then we cough if you get sorry I screwed that up if you get infected with a clone

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you are being you are inhaling 10 infectious particles

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not not nine non-infectious and one infectious particle you're inhaling 10 infectious particles

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that will all do what they will all make one infectious particle and 10 non-infectious

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particles so after one round of replication

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in this person's inhalation you will have four of these one two three four five six seven eight

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nine ten yeah ten of these and then you will have nine times four you'll have 36 non-infectious

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particles and I won't draw all those out but you don't have 36 of them now I know that this

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is a mathematically weak example but what I want you to see is that a natural coronavirus

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cannot be weaponized you can't grow this entity in a cell culture and ever get enough for it to

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be weaponized but if you take this infectious particle and you sequence it

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and you convert it to DNA and then you make a massive quantity of it right

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you can make as much as you want in a in a cell culture then when you convert it to DNA or to RNA

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again you will have this you will be you will be exposing the animal to you will be sharing with

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your colleague a pure high quality and high quantity of this pure RNA so if they wanted to do this

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and make it look like a coronavirus was circulating around the world knowing that a coronavirus can't

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do that well the technology that they have that is the basis for all laboratory coronavirus and

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RNA virus work is the DNA recombinant infectious clone this RNA infectious clone right here

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and so now imagine if they sprayed that in the subway what would happen people would get very

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sick but they would shed the same cloud of non-infectious particles so these people would

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definitely be sick they would definitely sequence positive they would probably have

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a very severe infection because they're inhaling all infectious particles not

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annoying immunogenic or antigenic particles but particles that will cause replication of that

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DNA and production of viral proteins which is the reason why infection starts to trigger the

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the whole immune cascade in the first place and you can see why in this natural infection

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the the tendency of the immune system is not to go to a cytokine storm but in in a situation like

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this where every cell has a replication competent RNA now you can imagine a scenario where this is

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a really great model of of infection in the laboratory to use it's extremely reliable it's

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extremely robust and more importantly it goes back to a DNA construct that can be shared with

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with an and catalog for all time and so to virologists this is just the way it's done

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but they haven't made the connection that this is the only thing that can be produced in large

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enough quantities to create the signal that we saw if you let an RNA loose and the only way it's

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going to get around the world is this way and there ain't no pandemic and that is the trick

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if we can get people to understand this it is really you know the problem is that it's DNA and

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RNA and so i've got another little drawing that i think i want to share and then i'll be quitting

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i promise this drawing is designed um that anybody can do it on a napkin to explain number

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one how the immune system works and number two why vaccination intramuscularly for most

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if not all things is in reality pretty dumb so i'm going to try and draw the simplest vertebrate

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body i can to illustrate what the immune system does and in so doing i'm going to draw it like this

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and this is also a drawing that any of you can make

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that's great okay perfect so you're going to think oh that's the lungs no it's not

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this right here is the lungs this right here is your GI tract and this these two areas here are

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your body so there is an outside and an inside and it is this barrier here

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that the immune system defends and it fends it defends it in a directional way

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inside out and we know that because this directional this rather this barrier is fortified by a network

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of lymph nodes where the immune system that that guards this barrier and this this illustration

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this might be the skin the lymph nodes are the headquarters of the immune system that man this

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barrier and of course all the mds and all the people that have been reading into this biology

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are aware that this barrier is continuous through the lungs and actually through the gut

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and it's only the change in the manning of that barrier that determines what happens at that barrier

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for example at the lung barrier i'll just put an L here for the lungs at the lung barrier it's

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almost all intolerance we don't really tolerate anything there now you might say that we tolerate

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pollen and that kind of stuff but in general it's still being cleared efficiently by the mucus

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and that's why we're not having to tolerate it but in general at the lungs it's intolerance

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on the other hand in the gut we need to absorb all the all the fatty um all the

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all the things that are not soluble in water have to be dissolved into the lymph which is of course

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also the main travel pathway of the immune system and therefore what happens in the gut is actually

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the opposite it's closer to a tolerance filter than anything else letting almost everything through

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and needing to be very careful about not letting foreign things in so remember when you're teaching

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your your your family that this is also the outside this is also outside

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and that's the point is that when you start to think about the gut as the outside and the lungs

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is the outside and start to understand that there's a continuous mucus membrane between the lungs

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and the gut

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then you will see that actual response to a respiratory pathogen is a response of intolerance

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to viral replication in the lungs and tolerance to the presence of viral proteins in the gut

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and what that does is it creates two very yin and yang differences in the different populations

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in the T cells which are sometimes called T regulatory cells in the gut and then of course T

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helper cells and cytotoxic T cells up here but in reality I think that that whole nomenclature is

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probably a little bit too simplified for the kind of orchestration that happens but I think it's

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for our purposes of teaching our family and friends it's important for them to understand

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just from that explanation that because food and nutrients need to pass through the gut freely

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without us building immunity to them which would be an allergy there is a very different complement

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of immune cells that's found here in the payer's patches then there are found in the lymph nodes

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which serve the lungs but it is the crescendo of the immune system created by the intolerant

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response of the lung cells the immune system protecting the lungs that is counterbalanced

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by the tolerance that builds as the viruses replicate and move down into the gut and those

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proteins are then processed by this wing of the immune system so that these T regulatory cells

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have the exact specificity necessary to turn down the ones that are driving the immune response

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at the lungs and this localization of these different responses and the coordination

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between those cell groups is vital to the proper identification of what B cells need to go into

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storage and what B cells can go into apoptosis what T cells need to go into dormancy and what don't

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it is an orchestration of this response at all of these barriers that are that are exposed to

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these RNAs and if we don't understand exactly how that works I'm fine but I assure you that it is

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the orchestration of these two responses and more that is the sum total R of R immune response which

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means that injecting a vaccine intramuscularly here is about the dumbest thing you can imagine

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doing if you want to augment this system it might work for something I don't know but my guess is

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my feeling is my gut feeling is already months ago that this is the right way to explain it

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that the immune system is designed specifically for this task and if you put something on the

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inside you have essentially created a scenario where the immune system is going to be challenged

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not to make a mistake and now even more important to understand is that in transfection

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whatever cell is going to express the spike protein is going to need to be removed

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and in removing that so that it goes to make an S over this and that's the spike protein

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any cell that needs to be removed is going to be removed by the immune system and that means that

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every time a cell is transfected and gets removed you are challenging we are challenging our immune

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system to be sure and not choose any of our own proteins to present and if it does choose our

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own proteins to present you better hope there isn't a T cell waiting or autoimmunity is non-stop

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and never going back and this die this this Russian roulette is played at every cell that gets

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transfected faithfully with an RNA and it doesn't matter what what tissue it is the potential for

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that error to occur is now real and i believe that that is the main danger of transfection

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that they are trying to hide behind saying that the spike protein is toxic or that the lmp's are

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toxic or that there's dna in the shot what i'm trying to say is that even if all those things

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weren't the perfect transfection would still put your immune system in a situation where it needs

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to make a choice it shouldn't have to make because it's designed to defend these barriers

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in a coordinated fashion and if you try to augment it by bypassing those barriers

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you have also taken the whole orchestration of the immune response out of the equation

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and forced it to make novel choices essentially and i can't stress enough how it doesn't matter how

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how often this doesn't occur we'll never know because autoimmunity many times will not show up

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for years the symptoms might not be something that you're ever going to connect you will never

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connect it to this it's horrible but i think that's one of the reasons why they're so focused on

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the cardio of the cardio the cardiac effects is to try and distract from this what i am sure is

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a ridiculously disturbing bouquet of possibilities that again gets horribly randomized

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in every single person because it is essentially a crap shoe where it goes

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if it goes to your bone marrow when would you know if it goes to your kids bone marrow when would

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you know if it goes to your kids spleen how would you know if it goes to your kids brain

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how would you know what would it show up like i mean these are these are endless questions

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with endless possibilities that compound one another and that's in the best case scenario of a

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transfection now add on the fact that the lmp might be might be poisonous or add on the fact

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that there's dna in there don't start with that add that on top of the fact that in the best case

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scenario this wasn't suitable for anything in a healthy human they were only using it on people

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who were going to die that had a genetic disease that was going to kill them anyway

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or was so ridiculously debilitating that well you got nothing to lose it's never worked

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so we need to really really start to have ways of opening our family and friends eyes i think a

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little simple drawing of the immune system is one way to do it a little simple explanation of

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why the immune system is and shouldn't be making this choice because it's used to making this

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choice at a barrier and in a cell type that is regularly patrolled for cancer i mean that's the

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reason why you shed your skin cells as part of your defense system and so if you're defending on a

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barrier that has that attribute and then you find antigens floating around behind that barrier

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what do you do how do you organize your response where's the cytokine uh where's the cytokine

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concentration gradient to orchestrate the cells moving from from the lymph node to the in fact there

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is none and this all missing means that no matter what you say this does it is not usefully augmenting

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the immune system for most in most scenarios i'm saying most because i want to hedge my bets but

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if i mean if i'm i'm speaking to friends here and and and everybody that i love then for sure i say

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that i think that they're completely wrong i think this picture right here should be the sales pitch

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of why intramuscular injection is really great for them but it's not really great for us

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um i think i could leave it there i already talked too long and then uh you can open up

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with questions i guess hope that was all right wonderful wonderful wonderful so if you stop

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sharing your screen uh so you probably have you think go back to gallery everybody

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top right corner click on view and choose gallery jjj thank you for sharing those thoughts as you

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were talking about intramuscular injections i keep hearing judy mike of it's a passionate

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exhortation to us don't inject anything in your bodies as she's told us on numerous occasions

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no more injections and and certainly as you have all heard me say it was 12 years ago that i got

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exposed to this whole game that was going on and the problem is that people aged over 40

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have grown up in an environment that is totally different now so that in australia in the first

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four years you need 43 you need 43 substances pumped into your body in the first four years of

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life in america jj's it's 72 in the first eight years oh sorry first 18 years this is the shit

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that's being pumping to everybody and that's why in my introductory statement i said many of us

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were supportive of vaccines and now many of us are passionate anti-vaxxers and your explanation

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has really reinforced you know my my thinking on this developed over 12 years my five my four

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children got minimal i got four vaccines in the first five years and as we all know

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no proper trials have been done on pumping in australia or else we're 43 bloody antigens into

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beautiful babies which by the way of course and i'll come back to the spiritual elements of

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this god jj's clearly incompetent that's the point you know this immune system that god

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designed is clearly incompetent so that's why we need all these injections right now that was

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just really i was just giving steven a moment but i really you articulated beautifully in this

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whole the the benefit of covid is going to be all of us understanding why on earth are we

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injecting stuff into babies steven and jim thought gave his don't you wouldn't have seen it jj but

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two weeks ago uh jim jim gave his confession here jj where he said where he said there was

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some 12 years ago jim that you said hey maybe injecting these babies is not a great idea so

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that was also that was also very instructive for us to see a man of jim's reputation and

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capability steven so jj um uh so i'm not going to give you hero status but i am going to say that

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you are exactly the kind of person we want on our side one because you're humble and you have

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a track record of changing your mind previously at least once when you were pretty sure that you

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were right the first time but you were honest with us and told us that you actually started

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all over again having actually thought that you'd save the world as you put it i think

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um so i wanted to ask you jj i agree with you that i don't think people can comprehend the um

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the multiplicity of lies that have been told and false leads and uh just extraordinary the whole

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thing the run pool thing i i wanted to ask you about that whether you think that run pool knows

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that that conversation he was having with fauci was leading people astray and would uh would

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actually do the big farmer and all the rest of them they've worked for them in promoting the

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possibility which you and i deny that these uh deadly viral pandemics are a threat to us

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in the future forever more it's just ridiculous the whole thing um i agree with you jj and uh so

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on what you said i think you said on one of the calls i i think you've been on more than twice

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actually um but you said uh that you didn't think you didn't think it was possible

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for them to do what they were threatening to i.e you know the lab uh the creation of a lab virus

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and you also didn't think it was possible for a virus to be transmitted uh for from a

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uh an animal to a human um and uh i think you said that uh so that got me thinking that maybe

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actually they were just uh trying to create a narrative which they could use to fear

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manga people forever more and that's exactly what they've done in my opinion but i think it was

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the way you were thinking the way i was thinking that they both collided and then

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i would really like to uh just before you go out any further like address that because it's

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important there's there are details there that are really important um first of all i i think

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that it's very likely that RNA exosomes of some kind or another can cause illness when you're

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exposed to them from either people conspecifics or from uh from animals and i don't think it's very

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often i don't think it's very contagious because of the nature of RNA but i'm not willing to dismiss

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respiratory disease as being possibly caused by RNA because we have

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uh a a panoply of data that shows that we have so many control mechanisms designed to respond

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to these signals and make sure that that they're mopped up we have you know just the idea that

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what i'm afraid of is that we are being led down a path where where the false information

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you know like there is no viruses there are no measles there's no whatever these kinds of things

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are we're getting very close to saying that when in reality we have to acknowledge first and foremost

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i think if you want to accept the biology that i'm pushing then you have to accept that in 2002

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somebody released an infectious clone and whatever the quantity of it was it was able to go from

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China to several other countries that infect about 10 000 people it killed 700 and when they

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sequenced it it changed about 50 amino acids between each sequence that they were able to

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to generate so compared to this virus which in the first six months changed less than 10 amino

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acids so something very different happened here but my argument would be that you could release a

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quantity of infectious clone equal to that which was released in 2002 and infect about 10 000 people

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and get limited spread which could kill as many as 800 and now if you did that in multiple places

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with the same clone then you would get multiple people multiple chains of limited spread until

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the fidelity of the infectious clone diluted enough so that it was gone would that be three

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people two people one person half a person meaning sometimes it wouldn't sometimes it wouldn't i don't

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but i know that if you did it with the biology that's described in all those books and described

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in all the papers about coronavirus you wouldn't get 10 000 people infected it's not the way it works

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when there's an outbreak of a human coronavirus they're able to track it through 30 people

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or through 10 children or two daycare centers but it's not like you can track it through a whole

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country like the Netherlands even when they have the kind of social monitoring and and system that

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they do they have never been able to do such a thing even though they've tried so to me that's

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the trick is to understand that there definitely is there are signals at this size scale that include

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DNA and RNA some of them may be infectious some of them may aggravate your immune system and cause

01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:12.480
a whole suite of respiratory disease some of them may even have a characteristic

01:00:13.120 --> 01:00:21.760
protein complement like measles or polio but but the way that they transmit and how they transmit

01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:30.000
and how fast they can go around the world has been grossly exaggerated in order to get you to be

01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:36.800
confused about the potential that's in nature versus the potential that would be in a pure bottle

01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:43.920
of this size that could never exist in nature just like trying to get you confused and think

01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:51.040
that the uranium that's found in all the soil outside of my house is the same danger as the

01:00:51.040 --> 01:00:58.160
purified uranium in a bottle of this size and that's really the trick this RNA can't do what

01:00:58.160 --> 01:01:03.760
they said it does out there but it can definitely do it if they make appear a quantity of it and

01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:11.040
spray it around and that I don't know how far it would transmit I don't know how many people would

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get sick from it I don't know if I had it would I cough something out it would make my family sick

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maybe I don't know but it's real because they can make it and they can make it in large quantities

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and that's detectable that's PCR positive that's sequinsable and it's culturable

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which is all the things they would need it to be if they wanted to convince the virologists in Iran

01:01:34.640 --> 01:01:42.240
in Wuhan in China in the UK and in America independently while something is spreading

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and it's the same sequence as they reported that's how you would do it you would do it with a call

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so JJ can you explain given that a deadly virus kills its host and the words deadly viral pandemic

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but deadly and pandemic cannot coexist in the same sentence in my view

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and endless deadly viral pandemics is what they're offering us now and we're all at risk from these

01:02:11.120 --> 01:02:21.760
endless deadly viral pandemics deadly if you believe in viruses then deadly viruses kill their host

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and they can't by definition obviously create a pandemic and oh people say well what if they

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cause serious disease same thing so it's on a kind of interplay in my mind

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yeah I agree I just think that sometimes transmissibility people can't get their heads

01:02:46.240 --> 01:02:52.160
around this can you think of a simple explanation yeah I mean I'm trying to to get there in the

01:02:52.160 --> 01:02:57.520
sense of you know once you start playing the discussion of viral dynamics you're actually not

01:02:57.520 --> 01:03:06.240
really fighting them anymore and I think that's where the no virus crew has their their game down

01:03:06.240 --> 01:03:13.600
to a science because essentially we should be allies with them they should be allies with us and

01:03:13.600 --> 01:03:22.640
they should love this clone theory because this clone idea is an idea which explains why virology

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might be grossly overstated and why a lot of this this science that they hate and say is fake is

01:03:29.440 --> 01:03:35.200
probably very much exaggerated or misinterpreted and that's fantastic for them but instead

01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:43.760
as soon as I proposed that maybe this was all done with infectious clones I became a virus guy

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and I had to but there are no viruses and I had to argue whether there were viruses or not and

01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.880
I said I don't want to argue about viruses when there are clones

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JJ I think the no virus people by the very fact that they talk about nothing else and do not want

01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:06.560
to talk about anything else other than that there's no virus they don't want to talk about the

01:04:06.560 --> 01:04:12.160
Russia war they don't want to talk about right okay but I guess what I'm saying is though Stephen

01:04:12.160 --> 01:04:20.160
is that the the the magical power that they have is that we haven't been good enough at stopping

01:04:20.160 --> 01:04:26.000
playing the virus game so when you are talking about a virus is killing its its hosts so that it

01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:34.480
can't pandemic or that you say that it's too transmissible and therefore it can't kill everybody

01:04:35.120 --> 01:04:42.960
these are all scenarios of viral spread absolutely yeah but I did preface it by saying that if one

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believes in viruses which I'm not sure I do yeah I don't think but I think you can believe in viruses

01:04:48.560 --> 01:04:53.440
and just not believe that they have the fidelity that you can there can be viruses they could be

01:04:53.920 --> 01:05:00.560
exosomes that are produced by every animal all the time for all we know and sometimes when we

01:05:01.120 --> 01:05:06.160
when we meet someone who's producing exosomes that are annoying to our immune system then we

01:05:06.160 --> 01:05:12.160
produce respiratory symptoms which expel those exosomes and maybe they also come from animals

01:05:12.160 --> 01:05:20.080
and occasionally those are especially irritating but the idea that that could create a phenomenon

01:05:20.160 --> 01:05:27.600
like a domino train is the part that they've exaggerated that's all that's all we need for

01:05:27.600 --> 01:05:33.840
that most of that viral virology to be kind of real but then the pandemic to be a lie

01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:42.400
so JJ so the porosity with which they argue about no viruses to the exclusion of all else no they

01:05:42.400 --> 01:05:49.120
don't want to so so they may well be right I I have conceded that many times to these people

01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:55.440
but they don't want to talk about anything else and so that seems very strange you know it's not

01:05:55.440 --> 01:06:03.120
in our interest because it's like a cult and there's no other way to describe it it is a cult

01:06:03.120 --> 01:06:08.160
I agree but I just want to be sure that that that everybody you know you guys are all pretty

01:06:08.160 --> 01:06:14.960
serious and so at this stage you know it's you got to be pretty nuanced in order to to

01:06:15.040 --> 01:06:22.240
absolutely to associate how how right they are about a lot of things and yes but having said that

01:06:22.240 --> 01:06:27.600
even if you are not sure about whether they're right or wrong and we haven't got time to actually

01:06:27.600 --> 01:06:35.200
prove it beyond reasonable doubt at the moment or even peer review it but we do suspect that then

01:06:35.200 --> 01:06:40.400
you know the whole virus thing should it might have been pushed at the expense of brilliant

01:06:41.120 --> 01:06:47.760
human immune system which is the science of immunologist and interestingly JJ I can't remember

01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:56.480
what I've told you this but someone who's intimately involved in the HIV nonsense in London told me

01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:04.720
about three months ago that the the immunologists the beginning of their decline was in the 80s

01:07:04.720 --> 01:07:11.840
which is of course coincides with the rise of virology so you wonder whether that was intentional

01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:17.360
they took away the the influence and power of immunologists who when I was at medical school

01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:25.600
the kings of medicine and they they increased the power of an influence of virologists and that

01:07:25.600 --> 01:07:33.200
was a construct in my view for what happened in 2020 what do you think I mean again I'm I'm not

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I like Michael Eden's response I'm not I'm not interested in viruses enough to to try to disprove

01:07:42.560 --> 01:07:49.200
them I'm just interested in saying that the biology that I understand with regard to RNA

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does not facilitate the kind of picture that we are being painted and and I don't know we need

01:07:57.680 --> 01:08:05.360
to go any farther than that because it absolutely it's it's really kind of that simple but

01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:11.200
yeah but the point is for the purposes of what happened in the last three and a half years

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do you think there was a pandemic was there I mean does the data say that there was pandemic I

01:08:20.240 --> 01:08:27.920
believe that it doesn't but also Jessica Naka's data says there was no pandemic Dennis says

01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:34.960
there's no pandemic but there were incidences of simultaneous symptoms there were incidences

01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:43.680
of simultaneous change of behavior in hospitals and change of behavior in ambulances which could have

01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:50.560
probably did I'm pretty sure accounts for the vast majority of the damage that it was done and

01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:56.400
now whether or not that was triggered with a few cases that were seeded with a clone so that the

01:08:56.400 --> 01:09:02.160
sequence would be the same I think it's almost certain but I don't think you need to think of

01:09:02.160 --> 01:09:09.440
it as thousands of people I think everyone needs to try and exercise their the simulation in their

01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:17.120
head of what would happen if you just told everybody that there was a dangerous novel pathogen that

01:09:17.120 --> 01:09:23.920
could kill anyone that needed to be avoided and that we didn't have any treatments for it but it

01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:30.320
was killing people and people were dropping in the street in China and you told them that there's

01:09:30.320 --> 01:09:38.800
money there's tests and there's protection from malpractice as long as you follow this protocol

01:09:40.000 --> 01:09:44.880
and put a protocol out there how many doctors would go against the protocol how many doctors

01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:50.320
would go against the tv and facebook how many of the doctors would go against the nightly news

01:09:50.320 --> 01:09:56.400
briefings about the pandemic none of them would have protocols that's another thing doctors should

01:09:56.400 --> 01:10:02.480
not have protocols and guidelines okay but that's something that's certainly not protocols that's

01:10:02.480 --> 01:10:08.640
something that that we have become awakened to now but the reason why the the protocol this

01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:15.440
sorry the pandemic was able to unfold was because hospitals and their financial structure and

01:10:15.440 --> 01:10:21.760
managerial structure in America and other places permitted this kind of top-down direction of

01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:29.680
doctors they could form because they had to there was evil intent always to take take

01:10:30.480 --> 01:10:37.520
but everybody was afraid and confused and and terrified and so at some point we've got to forgive

01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:44.000
these people and let them wake up you know i mean and not everyone can be expected to reject

01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:50.000
the things on television or because it is an illusion of consensus just like the the clapping

01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:57.120
audience you you can't expect most people to be immune to that level of pressure and it's not like

01:10:57.120 --> 01:11:04.480
an ash conformity experiment where the the wrong answer is obvious this is a very sophisticated

01:11:05.040 --> 01:11:11.200
ash conformity experiment where people on tv and people on social media and influencers are all

01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:17.760
weirdly saying the same stuff and so how in the world are people supposed to wake up it didn't

01:11:17.760 --> 01:11:24.800
fool me so how did it fool and it's just we just we just maybe we were in the right place at the

01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:29.600
right time maybe we're lucky maybe whatever but you know there's one thing that all doctors in the

01:11:29.600 --> 01:11:33.840
world should have known about and that was informed consent which is part of the nuremberg code as

01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:39.440
you know they should have known about that and they didn't and even when i mentioned that

01:11:39.440 --> 01:11:45.520
in december 2020 they didn't want to talk about it because they knew that was a killer argument

01:11:45.520 --> 01:11:52.320
and they didn't want to talk about nuremberg so what they did they took the they took power away

01:11:52.320 --> 01:12:00.320
from the autonomous individual doctor driven by medical ethics in the name of his or her patients

01:12:00.400 --> 01:12:06.880
and that was evil and the doctors should have understood about ethics if they didn't understand

01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:14.560
about anything else anyway so that's anyway that's very steven that's 20 minutes i quickly that goes

01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:22.480
great conversation okay everybody um thank you steven thank you jj we got hands up so

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so one of the things that i think is is at the start i said the science is never settled jj

01:12:31.040 --> 01:12:37.200
as steven has commented on your willingness to change your minds you know it's very interesting

01:12:37.200 --> 01:12:40.800
the opinions that we hold and seeing some of the comments in the chat i don't follow it very

01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:49.760
carefully because i'm paying attention to what jj says but you know i i repeat the chinese

01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:56.880
i'm told it was a chinese saying that says to be uncertain can be uncomfortable

01:12:57.840 --> 01:13:05.520
to be certain is ridiculous and in the issues that we're dealing with people who are certain

01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:12.800
about their opinions being right um i think is ridiculous absolutely and i'd say so many times

01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:18.080
this certainty that people i'm certain that's the answer and then a few weeks down the track

01:13:18.080 --> 01:13:24.640
it's changed so i just make that observation in this group hey it's great to share ideas here

01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:30.320
but you don't have to fight to the death for your ideas so that's the that's the that's the

01:13:31.040 --> 01:13:36.640
thought i wanted to say let's go amy amy then jim then rose and then jim uh two jims

01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:47.200
hello um i just wanted to ask i haven't seen um all of jj's lectures and this might have been

01:13:47.200 --> 01:13:53.200
covered before so if this is old territory never mind but as far as this model for some sort of

01:13:53.200 --> 01:13:59.920
exposure to new or the you know the clone of the original mrna through some sort of distribution

01:13:59.920 --> 01:14:07.360
mechanism other than viral transmission um does this have any effect on what you think should

01:14:07.360 --> 01:14:14.160
happen as far as with the injections some sort of shedding or contamination to non vaccinated

01:14:14.160 --> 01:14:20.800
people who are exposed to the people who were subjected to the vaccination the mrna vaccination

01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:26.160
um it's a good question it's something that i tend not to broach very much because

01:14:27.040 --> 01:14:33.600
it's i don't have enough expertise really to to speak extremely specific about it but

01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:39.520
number one it depends on the success of the transfection so how much rna reaches a cell

01:14:40.240 --> 01:14:46.000
and then how much of that rna gets faithfully trans translated into a functional protein and

01:14:46.000 --> 01:14:52.160
then how much of that could go into circulation or get extruded um i think will all depend on what

01:14:52.160 --> 01:14:59.280
tissues are transfected and so it's probably different in every person um but there is potential

01:14:59.920 --> 01:15:07.920
for excess a protein to be excreted and sweat um it's possible that it could be also in saliva

01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:15.840
and any other fluids because number one the makers of these shots warned in their own paperwork

01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:21.600
that people who are transfected shouldn't be having sex with with other people who aren't

01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:27.680
be presumably because there could be exposure to the protein um i guess it wouldn't be because the

01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:33.520
rna could be could be transmitted from person to person but i i assume they're assuming that

01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:42.080
the protein could um i think you can also go from from anecdotal um experiences in your own life

01:15:42.080 --> 01:15:46.880
if if you ate enough garlic would it come out in your sweat i think the answer is definitely yes

01:15:47.440 --> 01:15:54.560
and i think um that goes pretty much for a lot of a lot of things that we eat and a lot of things

01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:58.400
that we expose ourselves to so there's really no reason to believe that if you had excess

01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:03.120
of this spike protein in your body was more or less tolerating and at some point it would come

01:16:03.120 --> 01:16:09.040
out in your sweat um i don't know if that would happen on the first shot um but as your body builds

01:16:09.040 --> 01:16:13.760
tolerance to this spike protein it's very possible that later shots could produce an excess amount

01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:19.280
of protein that then gets secreted but i honestly i don't know i could be completely wrong and it's

01:16:19.280 --> 01:16:25.680
the first shot that has the most but the idea that it wouldn't happen again is a certainty that i'm

01:16:25.680 --> 01:16:28.880
not definitely not willing to state i definitely think it's possible

01:16:30.160 --> 01:16:35.680
okay thank you so much yep thank you thank you thank you thank you amie and i think

01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:40.240
amie you raised a good point the fact that it's you know jj might have spoken about something in

01:16:40.240 --> 01:16:44.320
the past and he weren't here on a previous call doesn't matter because we have such a shifting

01:16:44.320 --> 01:16:50.240
population and the people watching this recording will have a question so all questions are

01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:52.480
wonderfully provocative jim

01:16:54.880 --> 01:17:03.360
hey thanks jj great talk number one are you aware of cocsiella bernetti and its similarities to the

01:17:03.360 --> 01:17:10.640
symptoms of covid it can be sprayed over miles janet woodcock when asked about it refused to

01:17:10.640 --> 01:17:18.080
comment about it it is an intelligence weapon i have heard of it before and um i have and it

01:17:19.120 --> 01:17:25.840
it you know it's one of these more complicated scenarios that i think will only be discovered

01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:34.160
in an investigation um but i do think that there's been a number of potential explanations that

01:17:34.160 --> 01:17:44.080
include a toxin for the the bump in in symptoms uh you know clones for whatever little experiment

01:17:44.080 --> 01:17:52.080
are needed to fool molecular biologists and then the rest was just madness um and so i i don't mind

01:17:52.080 --> 01:17:59.600
that explanation um it would be interesting if that explanation uh would naturally offer some

01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:04.400
kind of alternative biological prediction like what would be there in evidence of that

01:18:04.400 --> 01:18:10.000
instead um but if it's as simple as people getting secondary pneumonia and it being bacterial then

01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:12.720
you know but that's treatment that's what happened

01:18:14.160 --> 01:18:21.600
treatment for cocsiella is hydroxychloroquine icy induction well then you know if i did hear

01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:28.800
i will without any double blind placebo controlled studies he did it by deduction yeah well it is

01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:34.800
done again there's there's there's lots of anecdotal evidence there for that being a possibility and

01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:43.280
if you if you i mean one of the best examples of why i think that this is plausible and one of the

01:18:43.280 --> 01:18:54.160
reasons why this clicks with me is that i feel and sense that they want you to feel like i vermectin

01:18:54.160 --> 01:19:00.800
is the drug that was suppressed but in actuality the drug that was suppressed first and much much

01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:08.880
harder was hydroxychloroquine and um i think that is a part of this narrative that i haven't been

01:19:08.960 --> 01:19:14.000
able to get enough handhold yet on how to teach it but this might be one of the reasons why

01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:21.840
that's the right answer is that hydroxychloroquine is actually a treatment for a for a wide variety

01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:29.040
of these respiratory diseases and it was actually as you're probably aware also um a in vitro confirmed

01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:36.560
preventing uh sars infection as well in 2005 so there was very good reason for that to be on a

01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:42.320
shortlist of substances and it was the first one that was censored and i still have the clip

01:19:42.320 --> 01:19:50.320
somewhere but in 2020 in february already abc news reported that the united states government put

01:19:50.320 --> 01:19:57.520
20 000 hydroxychloroquine pills in their in the in storage or whatever and their in their strategic

01:19:57.520 --> 01:20:05.120
stockpile and donald trump ramped up the production of hydroxychloroquine in florida until

01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:14.320
a a plant in taiwan that made the precursor i think or maybe i'm just getting the two confused

01:20:14.320 --> 01:20:20.160
but a plant in taiwan that also made hydroxychloroquine or a required precursor of it burnt down

01:20:21.120 --> 01:20:27.920
um so there was like a number of things that all it's much worse with hydroxychloroquine in terms

01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:34.080
of how hard they tried to go against it um then ivermectin and there's been books there are books

01:20:34.160 --> 01:20:38.400
about ivermectin but there's no books about hydroxychloroquine and that's a big sign

01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:43.360
i can talk you offline about that one more question about jason mcclellan

01:20:43.360 --> 01:20:49.120
who invented the sars covid 2 spike protein that is allegedly made by the mrna when injected

01:20:49.120 --> 01:20:54.640
jason mcclellan out of the university of texas austin put in the six proline restraints

01:20:56.400 --> 01:20:59.040
he developed it on a supercomputer called long horn

01:20:59.520 --> 01:21:03.680
hmm the spike protein looks like it's generated by computer

01:21:06.080 --> 01:21:13.440
um what do you what are your thoughts on well um my thoughts on that are that if the

01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:22.000
if the pandemic was meant to be orchestrated then there was a very specific problem that they had

01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:30.080
to solve and that was how are they going to guarantee that the mrna that they use will be

01:21:30.080 --> 01:21:37.280
effective and can be sold as being effective and so if the way that they solve that problem is by

01:21:37.280 --> 01:21:46.080
designing a coronavirus spike protein that had immunogenic properties and then lied about that

01:21:46.080 --> 01:21:52.800
sequence being found either by planting it uh probably by planting it with clone

01:21:53.680 --> 01:22:01.280
then you get this okay so we plant our our we make our RNA uh infectious clone release it in

01:22:01.280 --> 01:22:06.800
wuhan and iran they sequence it and report the sequence and lo and behold it's a sequence that

01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:13.520
we know will work to generate antibodies after multiple shots and so we'll just pretend well

01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:20.320
we'll just choose the spike protein lucky for us it works and then later on say that maybe it

01:22:20.320 --> 01:22:25.200
worked too well or that it was toxic or something like that and then the narrative is useful on both

01:22:25.200 --> 01:22:32.160
sides of the coin um and again i don't have i don't have molecular evidence for that but i

01:22:32.160 --> 01:22:40.720
don't think it's implausible at all to think that if this was an orchestrated operation then the idea

01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:49.680
would be to guarantee that they would have a a a shoe in working countermeasure that they wouldn't

01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:55.280
have to roll the dice on that would for sure work um and when they rolled it out they could point

01:22:55.280 --> 01:23:00.000
to the antibodies when they did the trials they knew it would work the way to do that would have a

01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:06.800
protein that already they already knew worked in the sequence that was found but that's getting

01:23:06.880 --> 01:23:14.560
pretty good yeah and and this is the plot of rainbow six it's known as quote the project

01:23:15.200 --> 01:23:21.520
and uh a quote virus is released at an olympic games spreads around the world in a in a soon

01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:26.560
after the games is over the vaccine is more deadly than the virus engineered by radical

01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:32.720
environmentalists to depopulate the earth in the name of climate change that's the plot of rainbow

01:23:32.720 --> 01:23:40.960
six competency yeah it's it's i'm aware it's um you know they're the the new planet of the apes is

01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:46.400
also a viral movie where they talk about antibodies neutralizing a virus six times in the first movie

01:23:46.400 --> 01:23:50.320
and then the second movie starts out with the virus spreading around the world with red dots and

01:23:50.320 --> 01:23:58.000
airplanes and uh and uh all the people being wiped out and so and they even call it a zoonotic virus

01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:04.320
and stuff it's it's there's no doubt that that the mythology of a pandemic is meant to be

01:24:05.040 --> 01:24:10.960
the new governing structure and the the the the temptation of course is to try and figure out

01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:18.240
exactly how they did this um but i think our task still really remains trying to bring more people

01:24:18.240 --> 01:24:24.480
on the side of understanding that we were lied to and let's fight about what the lies were later

01:24:24.480 --> 01:24:31.440
because right now we're we're really you know preaching to the choir all the time here we're not

01:24:31.440 --> 01:24:37.120
i don't need to convert you and you don't need to convert me and so we have to i feel like my job

01:24:37.120 --> 01:24:42.880
now is to come up with a message that converts new people without getting them to accept that all

01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:48.800
governments are bad at the first moment that they that they open their mind to this obviously that's

01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:55.280
where we want them to go but um there's so many people that are so sucked into this right now

01:24:55.280 --> 01:25:02.160
and so convinced that that consensus is real um and so it's going to take a lot of work to save

01:25:02.160 --> 01:25:08.400
them and and i don't know how we're going to do it but um i think the first thing and the first thing

01:25:08.400 --> 01:25:13.120
to start with is that they were lying and they've been planning this lie for a very very long time

01:25:13.120 --> 01:25:18.160
and i think the book that you cite along with all the other books that are out there the movies the

01:25:18.720 --> 01:25:25.200
x-files episodes the tv shows the cartoons that have all laid this narrative out they're all part

01:25:25.200 --> 01:25:32.160
of it and it's not it's i've said this in another interview today they're playing for all the marbles

01:25:32.160 --> 01:25:37.840
and their time frame isn't five years from now their time frame is 50 years at 100 years from now

01:25:37.840 --> 01:25:44.320
and it has been that time frame for several generations i mean if you want to think about it

01:25:44.320 --> 01:25:50.560
like i think about it i think you should think that the united states government or sorry the

01:25:50.560 --> 01:25:56.720
united states populace was fooled into believing that they rebelled against the crown and won

01:25:56.720 --> 01:26:01.840
their freedom when in reality most of the united states government and it's inner working stayed

01:26:01.840 --> 01:26:08.080
loyal and we are still under their control and in fact this is the culmination of a plan to grind

01:26:08.080 --> 01:26:13.840
us into the ground for breaking away from them in the first place and that's where the intelligence

01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:20.640
agencies come in that's where this this whole plan is not a government it's bigger than that

01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:27.440
because the idea is to grind america into the dirt because we're the last the last legislature

01:26:27.440 --> 01:26:33.120
of sort of bastion of freedom possible anymore the other ones are all gone already so this is the

01:26:33.120 --> 01:26:39.600
one they have to smash but that was on keep in mind on topic and keep in mind if the intelligence

01:26:39.600 --> 01:26:45.200
agencies invented it they know the antidote well i still am tempted by the idea that there's

01:26:45.200 --> 01:26:48.560
no antidote necessary they just have to make you convinced that there's needed one

01:26:50.080 --> 01:26:56.400
um then i know that that's not always true but that's my yep excellent rainbow six everybody

01:26:56.400 --> 01:27:02.560
we had it mentioned a few times before excellent reminder and uh jj in answer to that question of

01:27:03.120 --> 01:27:10.320
how are we going to influence in my view there's going to be a match that sets off the bushfire

01:27:10.320 --> 01:27:17.520
of united resistance of eight thousand million against one million and it will be something like

01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:25.520
a judge and peter huga mentions it it'll be something like a judge a highly placed judge in

01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:34.960
a court whose child has died from myocarditis pericarditis or a top business man who comes out

01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:42.960
and says i have been telling lies and that one match is what could be it jj and let's keep our

01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:50.960
eyes peeled because because the judges have been corrupted and some some of them will awaken

01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:56.480
eventually and steven's comments about nuremberg we don't know what the match will be

01:27:57.200 --> 01:28:02.000
but i'm very comfortable that there will be a match i'm also comfortable that it might be in

01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:08.800
two three years time so we don't stop as you've taught on us at the start so jj i remind everybody

01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:17.680
that you also said global problems are bullshit i love that idea that global problems are bullshit

01:28:17.760 --> 01:28:23.280
that's nick hudson all credit to nick hudson when they say global problems need global solutions

01:28:23.280 --> 01:28:32.640
you know it's global bs beautiful rose jj first off i love your breakdown of the science with clones

01:28:32.640 --> 01:28:40.000
that was very helpful to me so i want to give a twist to the comment that you made regarding

01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:47.440
that they're giving people to go down the wrong avenue when you were talking about oh gain a function

01:28:47.440 --> 01:28:53.920
versus natural yada yada yada so i want to do a twist on that exact same thing regarding the actual

01:28:53.920 --> 01:29:00.560
science i've been in health care for 40 years and as a health care consultant have been fighting

01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:08.880
behind the curtain with the unnecessary dust massive fraud doing the health analytics for 20

01:29:08.880 --> 01:29:16.640
years i've been alone voice crying out going guys you know title five of the aca we've got

01:29:16.640 --> 01:29:22.640
dummy down clinicians they can pass boards they don't know what they're doing we've got unnecessary

01:29:22.640 --> 01:29:30.880
deaths going on with hospital acquired infections conditions medical errors in 2016 i was invited

01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:38.000
to the who's who of health care in the united states where they declared open fraud on the stage

01:29:38.080 --> 01:29:45.680
and the room applauded and they openly said about how they're hiring convicts at john's hopkins

01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:55.200
because they want to do social experiments so my point being is that all of health care

01:29:55.200 --> 01:30:04.640
has been corrupted now for a very long time and i think you know the average person can't absorb

01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:12.720
the science they can't they're so bombarded with the political narratives that i think that

01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:22.880
in of itself is the distraction from the overall problem that all of health care has been corrupted

01:30:22.880 --> 01:30:31.440
and the staff has been dummy down and we haven't had informed consent across the board for a very

01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:38.880
long time so i'd like to throw that out to the group of is the science being a distraction because

01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:50.880
when we're trying to get to a billion people that can't handle the talk if we can kind of get back

01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:59.680
to the root issues of health care itself so that it's more palatable for the people to get on board

01:31:00.240 --> 01:31:05.280
with all of the issues so i just want to kind of throw that out to the group because i love the

01:31:05.280 --> 01:31:11.520
way that you were saying how we're being distracted and pulled and right now it's a bombarding of

01:31:11.520 --> 01:31:18.080
information and then on the on the virus talk i break it down to the average person of it's

01:31:18.080 --> 01:31:26.240
spiked protein it's a protein let's talk about spiked protein and not about viruses

01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:29.360
so i wanted to get your thoughts on that jj

01:31:31.680 --> 01:31:37.840
sorry i muted myself um yeah so i don't know how i would comment on that i mean it's a

01:31:38.720 --> 01:31:46.160
it's a it's a system-wide phenomenon one of the worst and biggest failures that i see in the

01:31:46.160 --> 01:31:52.080
pandemic is the absolute abject failure of every academic biologist who isn't aware that this is

01:31:52.160 --> 01:31:57.600
a fraud already and there are millions of them people at the university of pittsburgh that in my

01:31:58.400 --> 01:32:03.520
neurobiology uh department was more than a hundred faculty members and none of them have

01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:09.600
ever called me to say wow you were right or holy man i'm sorry that happened to you or anything

01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:16.320
like that they've all injected their kids and shown it on on on instagram and on facebook

01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:25.760
so these are these are academics who purport to be biologists who have just given up on the

01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:30.240
on their responsibility to understand what's really going on and have decided that they're

01:32:30.240 --> 01:32:35.440
just going to even though they know in their heart that something isn't right they're just gonna

01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:40.560
go on with their lives and go on with their grant applications and go on with their courses

01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:45.760
and go on with their supervision and and go on with the daycare and and they're not going to

01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:51.040
question the big picture around them because they're too busy they've got too much to do they're

01:32:51.040 --> 01:32:56.080
up for 10 year next year their husband lost their job so we're not sure if they're going to move

01:32:56.080 --> 01:32:59.920
and you know their kids are going to go to high school they're not sure what school they're

01:32:59.920 --> 01:33:07.440
going to go to and so all of us as she says as rose said have been driven to the point where

01:33:07.440 --> 01:33:13.440
paying attention to this unless you're someone like me who's just mentally ill and can't not pay

01:33:13.440 --> 01:33:21.200
attention to it you are forced to deal with the inflation and the the impact on your life and on

01:33:21.200 --> 01:33:26.960
your kids and what's going on you can't pay attention to this public health thing that's still rolling

01:33:26.960 --> 01:33:35.200
forward rolling forward like a massive um sort of unstoppable juggernaut where all these people

01:33:35.200 --> 01:33:41.760
are planning for the next thing and the next move and no one no one no one no one in our bureaucracies

01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:49.840
seems to be willing to look back and say wow we really we really screwed that up and the reason

01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:57.440
why is because they're all in on this change that is coming and so the the scary part is I guess that

01:33:58.400 --> 01:34:04.160
that it's going to take something much more than just awareness like really a lot of people are

01:34:04.160 --> 01:34:08.960
going to have to decide to get up and do something and and so there's a lot of momentum we still

01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:16.000
need to generate so it's tricky because it is hard to start getting people to think like this

01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:22.400
because it's it's harder to think like this than it is to you know just just watch Netflix and

01:34:24.000 --> 01:34:28.000
and worry about you know everyday things which is really what everybody should

01:34:28.000 --> 01:34:34.720
should be having the the freedom and privilege to do but yeah and I guess what I'm saying is that

01:34:34.720 --> 01:34:39.600
in the overall picture of what I've been battling for almost 20 years now

01:34:40.640 --> 01:34:48.480
covid is actually a small element it's it's so much bigger and and I guess to your point I have

01:34:48.480 --> 01:34:56.720
come across that with my hc aware presentations I get wide eyed open jawed stuns silence when they

01:34:56.720 --> 01:35:04.160
actually understand the big picture of the brokenness that covid is such a small piece of it

01:35:04.800 --> 01:35:09.360
yeah it's unfortunate that I think it's even as you're probably hinting at it's much worse than

01:35:09.360 --> 01:35:14.320
this in the sense of you know if we're if we're really honest and talk about everything that's on

01:35:14.320 --> 01:35:22.640
the table the financial system of America is is is overextended by that's saying it mildly and

01:35:22.640 --> 01:35:30.000
they have seen this coming for some time and one of the biggest signals that something is very wrong

01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:34.240
was something that I already said before I moved to Europe in 2002 which is how in the

01:35:34.240 --> 01:35:40.800
hell is it possible that somebody like Nancy Pelosi or somebody like Mitch McConnell is still

01:35:41.520 --> 01:35:48.000
in government it's just not possible unless it's corrupt and I was saying that 20 years ago and

01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:55.360
guess who are still in office now and that should be that should be terrifying to us that there isn't

01:35:55.440 --> 01:36:03.120
someone in Kentucky between the ages of 50 and 60 or between 40 and 60 with a successful track

01:36:03.120 --> 01:36:08.560
record of keeping their arms straight and having principles when they're needed that could serve

01:36:08.560 --> 01:36:15.360
as a better senator than that guy but our system is is very very far gone I guess where I'm going

01:36:15.360 --> 01:36:21.760
with the health care is is like again I love our talks around the science but to try to get to

01:36:21.760 --> 01:36:29.280
more and more average people the science is just too overwhelming and so how can we get them to

01:36:29.280 --> 01:36:36.560
understand there's a lack of informed consent for everything the nurses and doctors now in the

01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:42.480
hospitals aren't trained they don't know what yeah I see I see that I see that that's tough though I

01:36:42.480 --> 01:36:51.120
get that I do understand that point but that's why I'm for example trying to give a very you know

01:36:51.120 --> 01:36:58.480
cartoonish representation of the immune system which gets closer to the mark because I think

01:36:59.520 --> 01:37:05.280
that we've got to be very careful and not fall into the trap of this is too complicated to

01:37:05.280 --> 01:37:09.520
explain to people because I don't think it is that's the whole trap that you know the

01:37:09.520 --> 01:37:14.160
technocracy wants you to buy into is that I'm not an expert in that and therefore I have to defer

01:37:14.160 --> 01:37:21.040
to the experts who are and that's the excuse that everybody in in in academia uses because

01:37:21.040 --> 01:37:28.320
I work on hippocampal neurons and I work on long-term potentiation in in CA1 and so since I'm only an

01:37:28.320 --> 01:37:33.840
expert on the hippocampus in mice then what would I know about the immune system and its response

01:37:33.840 --> 01:37:42.080
to a coronavirus and this you're giving up your your it's not it is a responsibility you know I'm

01:37:42.080 --> 01:37:47.040
not a weatherman so I don't know if I should I'll just lose into the TV and decide what to wear

01:37:47.040 --> 01:37:52.080
because I'm not a weatherman I can't tell whether I should bring a jacket or not it's the same kind

01:37:52.080 --> 01:37:58.800
of attitude but now to your children's future your children's gender and your immune system's

01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:05.440
augmentation at the whim of a corporation or a government or a or a global entity and that's

01:38:05.440 --> 01:38:10.640
that's it's an incredible place for us to have gone in the last three years I'm sorry I got off

01:38:10.640 --> 01:38:17.920
topic there no that's good thank you thank you Rose now before we go to Jim JJ I'm going to say to

01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:26.160
you that you've been on this call now and I'm interested in health your health I say to you that

01:38:26.160 --> 01:38:29.920
if you haven't had to go to the toilet yet in two hours you're not drinking enough water

01:38:32.240 --> 01:38:36.320
I can agree with that um the bottle is still very full though so I'll keep drinking

01:38:37.120 --> 01:38:43.920
keep drinking keep drinking and everybody drink lots of water and not fluoridated water

01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:50.160
so JJ we've got half an hour to go we've got two four hands up and then Stephen's closing questions

01:38:50.160 --> 01:38:55.040
we're finishing on the two and a half hour mark so if you need to go to the toilet go now

01:38:55.040 --> 01:39:03.520
give the last half hour up to you you okay no I'm okay I'm playing right okay dr Jim here you are

01:39:03.520 --> 01:39:06.240
giving me some health now here you are Jim over to you

01:39:07.440 --> 01:39:16.080
JJ it's such an honor and privilege to listen to you and you're really I'm extraordinarily impressed

01:39:16.080 --> 01:39:25.520
with your presentation if you know I'm 44 plus years out of medical school and I was taught

01:39:25.520 --> 01:39:32.800
nothing in medical school about vaccines and if if I had my dr others if I had the power

01:39:33.360 --> 01:39:39.680
of putting a medical school curricula for every medical school in the United States of America

01:39:40.480 --> 01:39:46.000
you would be a mandatory lecture once a week for the first two years of every medical student

01:39:46.000 --> 01:39:55.920
in this country amen and to my question is um you're this positive of your simplistic diagram

01:39:56.400 --> 01:40:03.200
I've never seen anything like that it's it's and I've I've been interested in the immune system for

01:40:03.200 --> 01:40:12.560
for 44 years it's brilliant it's it's it's and it's physiologic and it's it's it's spot on I'm

01:40:12.560 --> 01:40:19.840
very very impressed with that I love it thank you very much I mean it's uh it was I can tell you

01:40:19.840 --> 01:40:27.440
the honest truth it was um something that I I was on my motorcycle and I knew at once that I had it

01:40:27.440 --> 01:40:32.800
I saw the whole picture um and I knew that I had to teach it that way and that was the first day

01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:38.560
that I actually put that slide up that said intramuscular injection might be dumb it's beautiful thank

01:40:38.560 --> 01:40:47.040
you I want to just go to one question and I'll let you maybe maybe two questions is I'm very very

01:40:47.120 --> 01:40:52.640
interested and you may I don't want to put you on the spot but the highlight of those you know the

01:40:52.640 --> 01:40:58.560
prominent um leaders that you had in the beginning of your presentation somewhere in a grain somewhere

01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:04.640
in a yellow and somewhere in a red frame and I'm just wondering if you might you may may not be

01:41:04.640 --> 01:41:14.880
willing to um to amplify on that like why were some of the folks in red from your perspective why

01:41:14.880 --> 01:41:22.400
were some of those in yellow and um and and and then the and I'll let you go on with that and

01:41:22.400 --> 01:41:30.560
I'll shut up thank you um I I would I can go back and just kind of say a little bit um and I just

01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:38.640
want to want to emphasize that the the reason why I would go back is because um I just want to make

01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:45.280
sure that you understand that it's it's uh it's it's my own personal experience that I'm trying to

01:41:45.280 --> 01:41:54.800
share and and the reason why that's important is because I was entangled with many of these people

01:41:55.680 --> 01:42:02.960
from the very beginning because I got involved in this group drastic on twitter which ended up

01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:08.880
being central to the narrative of the lab leak and who figured it out and whatever and reported

01:42:08.880 --> 01:42:16.320
on Tucker Carlson and Vanity Fair now don't get me wrong drastic was reported but it was attributed

01:42:16.320 --> 01:42:24.320
to people that weren't in drastic as would you would typically expect but more importantly drastic

01:42:24.320 --> 01:42:28.800
was a group of people most of whom were anonymous and the person who formed the group is still

01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:37.840
anonymous and so at some point I became skeptical of that group but in that first year I was

01:42:37.840 --> 01:42:45.520
contacted by many many many different people in various phone calls emails and these people

01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:54.560
turned out to be influential people later on or or continued to play certain roles later on and so

01:42:55.520 --> 01:43:01.440
one of the people that I have up here for example is Brett Weinstein and he's in yellow but in

01:43:01.440 --> 01:43:05.840
reality I would say that he actually should be in red because Brett Weinstein is someone who

01:43:06.720 --> 01:43:15.360
without a doubt um I taught most of the biology that I just presented here I taught to him in 2021

01:43:15.360 --> 01:43:22.400
in a signal chat that he personally invited me to join and in that signal chat instead of saying

01:43:22.480 --> 01:43:27.360
wow that's really great I can't believe how much you've taught me he said at some point that he

01:43:27.360 --> 01:43:32.080
didn't understand what I was talking about and he didn't think a zoom discussion with me would

01:43:32.080 --> 01:43:40.560
help him to help him understand it and so I stopped communicating with him now in this same signal

01:43:40.560 --> 01:43:50.080
chat I was in that signal chat in 2021 with Brett when he interviewed Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in his

01:43:50.080 --> 01:43:56.720
house now if you're not aware that was November of 2021 but Brett didn't release that video

01:43:57.280 --> 01:44:06.080
until February of 2023 and now you can't imagine can you imagine having Robert F. Kennedy Jr. come

01:44:06.080 --> 01:44:10.640
to your house and record a three-hour podcast and then you're just casually not releasing it for 14

01:44:10.640 --> 01:44:17.680
months now there's also Steve Kirsch and Robert Malone on here and the reason why they're on here

01:44:17.680 --> 01:44:23.520
in yellow is because they came out on Brett Weinstein's podcast that's the first place that

01:44:23.520 --> 01:44:30.720
they came public when they came out publicly the three of them stated that they were demonstrating

01:44:30.720 --> 01:44:36.480
a combination of strategies that would allow strangers to hang out with each other Robert Malone

01:44:36.480 --> 01:44:43.760
was vaccinated and also infected he had hybrid immunity Brett Weinstein had never been infected

01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:49.440
but was using ivermectin prophylactically and Steve Kirsch had been vaccinated twice

01:44:50.400 --> 01:44:56.080
and so they started their podcast in the first 10 minutes by laying down a narrative that there

01:44:56.080 --> 01:45:01.680
was a novel virus for which these countermeasures are effective and that maybe it's a lab leak and

01:45:01.680 --> 01:45:09.600
it'll come again now I can keep going on and on and on but all of these people have essentially

01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:15.440
played some pretty critical like Nurse Aaron down here for example on the bottom is a person

01:45:15.440 --> 01:45:21.760
who who admits to being in the army admits to being in the psychological operations group

01:45:21.760 --> 01:45:31.600
in the army and started an anti-vax group two of them in 2018 and 19 in Florida before the start

01:45:31.600 --> 01:45:38.640
of the pandemic when she moved up to New York and was in present in this Elmer's hospital to make

01:45:38.640 --> 01:45:44.880
all these videos and show that they were mixing COVID patients with regular patients and and that

01:45:44.880 --> 01:45:50.400
it was spreading and that it was all this people getting hurt and then she wrote a book and did a

01:45:50.400 --> 01:45:58.960
tour you can you can go on and on Kevin McCurnan is a guy who who's as best as I can tell has made

01:45:58.960 --> 01:46:04.560
hundreds of millions of dollars if tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars selling companies

01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:10.560
that have all to do with his years and years of experience in the human genome project where he

01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:16.800
dropped his PhD and immediately went to work for the government in the 90s whenever that project

01:46:16.800 --> 01:46:23.840
started he's got like really young pictures of him and Francis Collins walking around the original

01:46:23.840 --> 01:46:29.440
lab or the original sequencing was done in the original human genome project that was featured on

01:46:29.440 --> 01:46:39.280
time this guy has a as a 7,000 square foot house on the ocean in Boston and yet he spends or used

01:46:39.280 --> 01:46:46.240
to spend an inordinate amount of time on Twitter tweeting against me telling me that infectious

01:46:46.240 --> 01:46:50.720
clones were a mythology that I didn't understand and that they were the same as regular coronavirus

01:46:50.720 --> 01:46:57.120
isn't that Jay was dumb a guy who has no business even having a Twitter account never mind paying

01:46:57.120 --> 01:47:06.320
attention to a guy like me with 3,000 followers on twitch so the behavior of these people has been

01:47:06.320 --> 01:47:15.920
so extraordinary nine days nine days after I was on Robert F Kennedy jr's podcast with Robert Malone

01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:22.560
I met Robert Malone in person and he jerked his hand away and said that I've never met you I don't

01:47:22.560 --> 01:47:29.600
know who you are and I've never introduced you to Robert F Kennedy jr however Bobby told me

01:47:30.240 --> 01:47:36.480
that it was Robert Malone who sat him down to watch my stream and that's the reason why he hired me

01:47:37.120 --> 01:47:42.960
so I guess according to Robert Malone Bobby Kennedy is lying to me it's possible but Robert

01:47:42.960 --> 01:47:47.600
Malone's the one who pulled his hand away and said I don't know who you are nine nine days after he

01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:55.520
was on a podcast with Bobby and me so it's strange because the the behavior of all of these people

01:47:55.520 --> 01:48:00.320
has been really extraordinary I mean give me another example here's a tonic this Mark Koolack

01:48:00.320 --> 01:48:06.240
guy that's underneath the arrow right here is a guy who from the very beginning of the pandemic

01:48:06.240 --> 01:48:13.120
was working with George Webb and George Webb I started to notice a pattern where George Webb was

01:48:13.280 --> 01:48:21.920
taking Mark's work and kind of twisting it around making mistakes when he would report it and kind of

01:48:21.920 --> 01:48:25.760
saying the opposite of what he should have said but then still giving Mark credit for being a great

01:48:25.760 --> 01:48:32.880
journalist and I started after a while really seeing this pattern to the point where I was starting

01:48:32.880 --> 01:48:37.200
to get a little frustrated with Mark because he wouldn't see it he was just like you know you gotta

01:48:37.200 --> 01:48:42.800
use everybody and at least I get publicity from George but what I could see behind the scenes was

01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:48.800
that his association with George was discrediting him among people who already considered George

01:48:48.800 --> 01:48:56.080
Webb to be to be a Medler and so interestingly enough I'm going to keep expanding on this again

01:48:56.080 --> 01:49:02.240
but you know all of these people are connected by actually talking about the worst case scenario

01:49:02.240 --> 01:49:11.120
together on the internet and that's very extraordinary because no one should have been certain in 2020

01:49:11.120 --> 01:49:17.760
about where this was going to go where it came from or who was in trouble no one but I

01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:24.800
I think well I say jay stop jay jay because you've done it you've done a great explanation jay jay's

01:49:24.800 --> 01:49:31.760
previous recording on our rumble channel go through beautifully how jay jay crafted that so when

01:49:31.760 --> 01:49:36.960
if you've got more time worth going through because jay jay that's about an hour on that well worth

01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:41.440
understanding but it's quite question so we've got to go we've got three more questions and sorry about

01:49:41.440 --> 01:49:48.480
jay jay 20 minutes so james it's very important you understand that in the video that of jay jay

01:49:48.480 --> 01:49:55.120
in his previous presentation at last presentation he went through about 50 people from memory connected

01:49:55.120 --> 01:50:02.000
with and it and it is it's not a case of jay jay trying to cause trouble in because he keeps his

01:50:02.720 --> 01:50:09.280
but he's just it's very interesting to listen to his observations and i think

01:50:09.280 --> 01:50:18.080
would be incredibly interested james yeah agree very good um thank you thank you jim marvin marvin

01:50:18.080 --> 01:50:27.280
john tom and then steven uh jay jay i'm going to ask you one of my most compelling factoids is

01:50:27.280 --> 01:50:36.560
bill gates buying a million shares of moderna in september 2019 what what is one or two of your

01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:45.120
most compelling lies about the last three years what an interesting question that's really great

01:50:45.120 --> 01:50:52.720
so the first one that i really think is important is is the pcr as uh as a readily

01:50:53.680 --> 01:51:01.040
manufacturable product so i'm not saying that pcr didn't work before the pandemic

01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:08.800
i'm saying that making pcr into a commercial product as a diagnostic tool didn't really

01:51:08.800 --> 01:51:15.280
exist before the pandemic and making it for a coronavirus was a lie there is no such thing

01:51:15.280 --> 01:51:22.000
as a specific test for a specific coronavirus you can have a test that identifies a coronavirus

01:51:22.640 --> 01:51:26.880
but that doesn't tell you that something new is spreading around that would be the first one

01:51:26.880 --> 01:51:34.560
um the second one is definitely the prevailing narrative that we don't know if we can build

01:51:34.560 --> 01:51:41.600
natural immunity to this virus the only reason to say that is if you thought that this was some kind

01:51:41.600 --> 01:51:48.240
of some kind of toxin right or you knew that it was some kind of toxin that you didn't build

01:51:48.320 --> 01:51:53.040
immunity to that every time you were exposed to it you were going to have symptoms that's a

01:51:53.040 --> 01:52:00.160
toxin that's not a pathogen so that discussion was really rampant for the first five months and it

01:52:00.160 --> 01:52:06.480
really i really had to argue with a lot of people about the the the actual biology that would support

01:52:06.480 --> 01:52:13.440
that concept um and then i guess the last one is this idea that transfection can be immunization

01:52:13.440 --> 01:52:20.240
because it's really not and when you when you break it down they are playing a semantic game because

01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:28.000
again uh this is something that really is specific for people that worked in biology in the on the

01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:36.080
bench in universities um Marvin let me tell you that at the University of Pittsburgh it would surprise

01:52:36.080 --> 01:52:45.120
me if there are more than 10% of the active research faculty at the medical school that do not use

01:52:45.760 --> 01:52:51.760
transfection in their laboratory meaning that almost every laboratory there that's working on

01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:58.960
any animal model any human not any human any animal model of a disease any animal model

01:52:59.680 --> 01:53:07.360
of a disorder any animal investigation into the function of any system in its body or its brain

01:53:08.080 --> 01:53:14.880
is going to use transfection in order to modify that system meaning that they are going to generate

01:53:14.880 --> 01:53:21.680
a synthetic RNA in a laboratory commercial laboratory they're going to have it packaged in

01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:29.920
any number of of of transfection materials that include liposomes which are lipid nanoparticles

01:53:29.920 --> 01:53:34.080
just with a different name and then they're going to get that a commercial product they're going to

01:53:34.080 --> 01:53:38.160
bring it into their laboratory they're going to inject it in the place that they want the protein

01:53:38.160 --> 01:53:44.400
to be expressed and they will transfect the animal in the place that they want to change the protein

01:53:44.400 --> 01:53:49.920
expression they will observe the changes in the animals physiology or behavior then they will

01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:54.960
sacrifice the animal and do whatever other histology is necessary to publish the data

01:53:55.600 --> 01:54:02.160
and so every one and at every university it's the same it is a standard technique

01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:11.600
for modulating modifying moving around pushing buttons inside of a real organism is transfection

01:54:11.600 --> 01:54:18.000
and if you use RNA it's transfection if you use an adenovirus with DNA in it then it's called

01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:23.840
transformation and these products have been available for upwards of 20 years they've just

01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:29.360
become cheaper and cheaper and cheaper because it's cheaper to make this stuff and everybody

01:54:29.360 --> 01:54:35.840
that works in academic biology should have immediately said that's not a vaccine that's a

01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:42.000
transfection and the difference is again you know you can inject you can inject chemicals

01:54:42.960 --> 01:54:49.440
you can inject chemicals in your in your body and that's vaccination but if you start

01:54:49.440 --> 01:54:57.360
transfecting your cells then you're doing even more potentially bad things than vaccination

01:54:57.360 --> 01:55:04.080
could ever do because vaccination is really just toxins and proteins the toxin is the adjuvants

01:55:04.640 --> 01:55:11.040
the proteins are what and they hope that your immune system will pay attention to with transfection

01:55:11.120 --> 01:55:17.680
it's completely different in transfection they are relying on your immune system to destroy your

01:55:17.680 --> 01:55:23.600
own cells and it hopes that they won't make a mistake and the horrible part about it is Marvin

01:55:23.600 --> 01:55:30.080
is that every academic biologist should have known that we don't use transfection with the idea

01:55:30.080 --> 01:55:34.720
of augmenting an animal forever i'm going to give you the best example i've got from my work and

01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:45.040
i'll be quiet we used to use an algal protein algae an algae protein that was a sodium channel

01:55:45.600 --> 01:55:51.760
meaning that would allow sodium through if it was exposed to blue light what this means is is that

01:55:51.760 --> 01:55:58.480
if you transfected neurons in the brain of a mouse with this protein and then put a light

01:55:58.480 --> 01:56:04.480
through their skull whatever neurons were expressing the protein you could control you can turn them

01:56:04.480 --> 01:56:11.600
on or turn them off now it's important to understand this modification is only temporary

01:56:12.160 --> 01:56:16.560
and the brain and its immune system will clear those neurons out in time or those neurons will

01:56:16.560 --> 01:56:23.200
die in time so when we get a remote control mouse that does a particular behavior when we turn the

01:56:23.200 --> 01:56:28.560
blue light on that's a very simplified version of the experiment but it could work that way

01:56:29.520 --> 01:56:35.520
that mouse is not now a blue light responsive mouse for the remainder of its life and then it

01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:42.720
just goes on to to live merrily until it's dead if you transfect the brain of a mouse you have

01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:47.280
a limited period of time before those neurons will die of toxicity or the immune system will

01:56:47.280 --> 01:56:52.480
remove them and then that animal will never be the same again and your experiment will be

01:56:52.480 --> 01:56:56.960
worthless because you can't go into the brain and find out who you change because they're gone

01:56:57.840 --> 01:57:06.480
and so my point is is that this lie about transfection being a candidate for vaccination is the

01:57:06.480 --> 01:57:13.040
really diabolical lie because it's investigational vaccine maybe it will work and that's that's

01:57:13.600 --> 01:57:18.320
totally wrong we should have known that from the very beginning and every one of these damn

01:57:18.320 --> 01:57:24.400
biologists that uses it on their bench in their animals should have known that that's the reason

01:57:24.480 --> 01:57:29.520
why it's a limited a limited tool they should have known because they know for their animals

01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:35.680
saw the hell couldn't they know for grandma that's the third lie hope that was a good answer beautiful

01:57:36.720 --> 01:57:43.200
yeah well done thank you Marvin okay john Tolman then Steven let's go 10 minutes to go

01:57:44.720 --> 01:57:52.960
I just have a couple of comments to make one is kudos to dr Thorpe you know I don't hardly ever hear

01:57:53.600 --> 01:57:59.120
a doctor make a statement like that that you know there was a possibility I just want to

01:57:59.120 --> 01:58:05.520
congratulate dr Thorpe for coming out and saying what he did because you know it's hard to admit

01:58:05.520 --> 01:58:12.000
that there may be a possibility you've been miseducated or under educated and I guess it's

01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:17.840
you know what you do with that knowledge now right I wanted to say something that

01:58:18.720 --> 01:58:29.200
that I think speaks to an earlier point JJ made about us I guess getting caught up in jargon

01:58:29.200 --> 01:58:35.680
and language you have to be very careful about this you know it's kind of I pick on Jim a lot

01:58:35.680 --> 01:58:42.400
because he's caught up in the medical literature that got me all misdirected so many times I just

01:58:42.400 --> 01:58:50.960
don't really trust it anymore but I think it's an important analogy that to make about you know

01:58:50.960 --> 01:58:56.720
you think about things like chat GPT right these large language learning modules how do they

01:58:56.720 --> 01:59:02.400
really operate you know they they reduce language to a mathematical sort of algorithm that just

01:59:02.960 --> 01:59:09.520
puts things together based on how many times it's seen something put together and just that way it

01:59:09.520 --> 01:59:14.560
answers questions this way it can't really answer a question it could just kind of produce

01:59:15.360 --> 01:59:24.400
a silly answer with this mathematical model of probability right so what they fooled us into

01:59:24.400 --> 01:59:31.360
doing I think by making everybody an expert releasing all this medical jargon into the public and

01:59:31.360 --> 01:59:37.040
letting everybody use it without you know really understanding the definitions of the language

01:59:37.120 --> 01:59:45.520
that they're using it is a gigantic human version of chat GPT and I think when you look at it that

01:59:45.520 --> 01:59:52.000
way and you listen to some people speak you can almost hear this this computer putting together

01:59:52.000 --> 01:59:56.640
an answer for you I mean would you agree JJ that that's kind of the way a lot of it hits me

01:59:57.360 --> 02:00:01.760
yeah I mean I get the point you're trying to make and I think it's a valid one they

02:00:02.560 --> 02:00:08.880
they it's kind of similar to the ash conformity argument in the sense of you know

02:00:10.160 --> 02:00:14.560
if you don't get a joke you might as well laugh along and because you might get it later

02:00:15.280 --> 02:00:22.240
and I think a lot of people have been challenged so much as as Rose said to understand this biology

02:00:22.240 --> 02:00:26.160
that they kind of just go along with it because they don't understand it but they know what the

02:00:26.160 --> 02:00:32.160
right response is and they can they can fake that so you know they can go along with it and

02:00:32.960 --> 02:00:37.440
you know what an intelligent response sounds like but if it lacks intelligence they don't

02:00:37.440 --> 02:00:42.560
have a way to discern correct you know my own study of this one of the reasons why I appreciate

02:00:42.560 --> 02:00:50.560
your work so much JJ is because you know you have a way of aerodietly simplifying things

02:00:51.520 --> 02:00:58.080
you know I got more out of your lectures than a year's worth of medical study I really did so

02:00:58.080 --> 02:01:05.760
you know thanks for thanks for doing that and you know I have this other kind of opinion about

02:01:05.760 --> 02:01:12.800
why PCR was deployed aside from some of the more obvious ones that we know I think it was deployed

02:01:12.800 --> 02:01:18.160
as an effectiveness measure right to see how effective their clone deployment measures were

02:01:18.160 --> 02:01:25.200
right they want to test everything the wastewater the people the animals the air the plant they

02:01:25.200 --> 02:01:32.720
want to test everything but what is PCR you know PCR is a Xerox machine right and they're looking

02:01:32.720 --> 02:01:40.480
for evidence that their genetic spam mail is actually taking hold somewhere I'm not in the camp that

02:01:40.960 --> 02:01:48.560
is scared of any of that but I think that you know it's interesting I like that that's an

02:01:48.560 --> 02:01:53.680
interesting idea I didn't think of it that way it's cool I like that that would definitely get

02:01:53.680 --> 02:01:58.160
data from that that's actually really something I hadn't thought about that's interesting

02:02:00.160 --> 02:02:06.960
I'm I'm not it doesn't really interface well though with the with the idea of overcycling and

02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:16.800
the idea of a specificity but I do see your point yes do use yeah yeah I see it very good

02:02:16.800 --> 02:02:23.120
yeah okay that's all right thank you thank you john and everybody check out john's links to his

02:02:23.120 --> 02:02:32.880
website to further expansion of john look at just thinking tom hey jj yeah you're you seem to be on

02:02:32.960 --> 02:02:38.960
a roll I think I've watched about four twitches I think you've done maybe like all week in a row

02:02:38.960 --> 02:02:45.920
that's it's great and I know you covered that neural implant video about you know how it'd be

02:02:45.920 --> 02:02:52.160
so wonderful to have your brain monitor all the continuously but I'm going to put a bunch of

02:02:52.160 --> 02:03:00.560
questions in the chat I'm sure we only get to one or two but you recently covered that makala

02:03:01.120 --> 02:03:05.520
bombshell thing where he he basically said he didn't he wouldn't if you were a parent he would

02:03:05.520 --> 02:03:13.840
not get any jabs and then you compared that to Malone um but on a more down-to-earth

02:03:14.720 --> 02:03:19.600
issue I have this friend who's just constantly telling me so-and-so just got

02:03:19.600 --> 02:03:25.440
covid so-and-so she's very social you know yummy yummy oh three people just got covid they're

02:03:25.520 --> 02:03:32.000
using these grocery store tests and so I put a I guess it's called a covid wrap at

02:03:32.000 --> 02:03:39.440
antigen tests I put the manual in the chat um so if you can comment on that and and maybe

02:03:40.800 --> 02:03:47.280
you made some discussion about no spread in New York City or you can maybe touch on New York City

02:03:47.280 --> 02:03:54.560
and then the last thing would be the um just informing people of your idea the swarm of variants

02:03:54.560 --> 02:04:02.880
all evolving in parallel and that may be a way to debunk the idea that they're they keep deploying

02:04:02.880 --> 02:04:11.600
these new clones as variants because that seems to be in the nose too thanks yeah you bet so um

02:04:11.600 --> 02:04:17.200
when he's talking about the swarm um he's talking about a little bit of what I mentioned in my early

02:04:17.200 --> 02:04:22.800
part of the discussion where I was saying that when RNA makes a copy of itself it's never perfect

02:04:23.520 --> 02:04:29.520
and if you want to try and do an exercise in your head um to to follow along with this you have

02:04:29.520 --> 02:04:35.600
to have a little stick and this is the stick that's going to get copied and so remember that the

02:04:35.600 --> 02:04:41.200
enzyme that copies an RNA will copy it from one end to the other right and then it's got to go

02:04:41.200 --> 02:04:46.000
and back to the other end and start again it doesn't go backwards and forwards and backwards and forwards

02:04:46.560 --> 02:04:53.440
so think of the consequences of this in the cartoon of RNA replication this is the first RNA

02:04:54.080 --> 02:04:59.120
the second RNA that gets produced when this one is copied has a minimum of three errors in it

02:04:59.120 --> 02:05:05.840
because that's the nature of copying RNA the virus jumps off and now it's going to join

02:05:05.840 --> 02:05:14.640
our replicate one of the two RNA by RNAs that are present because there's the first RNA

02:05:15.120 --> 02:05:20.640
you just said the virus jumps off does that mean not the virus sorry the immune the the

02:05:20.640 --> 02:05:27.760
enzyme so if if in the replication cycle you have the first RNA and it gets copied into a second RNA

02:05:27.760 --> 02:05:34.080
but this second RNA has three errors in it minimum because of the narrownius nature of RNA dependent

02:05:34.080 --> 02:05:42.160
RNA polymerase copy so depending on which of these two RNA gets amplified you might have another

02:05:43.040 --> 02:05:49.360
RNA produced with three or four errors in it or you might have a copy of this one made that will

02:05:49.360 --> 02:05:54.160
add additional three errors from the original sequence and now you'll produce one with six

02:05:55.200 --> 02:06:01.760
and so as this goes on and on you can see that very quickly the original sequence gets lost in a

02:06:01.760 --> 02:06:08.960
swarm of variants that have point mutation scattered throughout their genome and included in that

02:06:09.440 --> 02:06:14.240
are places when the RNA polymerase just gets about halfway or third of the way and just stops

02:06:15.280 --> 02:06:21.840
and so there are in almost an infinite supply of incomplete genomes partial genome sub

02:06:21.840 --> 02:06:30.800
genomic RNAs and miscopied not miscopied but less than perfectly copied because that's the way it is

02:06:30.800 --> 02:06:36.800
swarm copies of the original virus so what I need you and everyone to start imagining is

02:06:37.440 --> 02:06:45.360
that if the if the background signal is a swarm of coronavirus is that makes everybody sick every

02:06:45.360 --> 02:06:50.320
year spreads around most of the time and most of the time our immune system ignores it but little

02:06:50.320 --> 02:06:57.200
kids get sick a lot and as we build tolerance to this whatever it is RNA signal in the background

02:06:57.200 --> 02:07:02.720
we become less sick every year and eventually we don't have common colds anymore then the point

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would be that if we started sequencing that background we would be sequencing the swarm

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and you can find lectures from Vincent Rancid yellow and other very rachen yellow you can find

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many lectures from virologists that discuss the swarm and how the sequence of a virus is actually

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a consensus sequence based on an average of all those those individual genomes that are present

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and aligned on a computer and decided what the average or consensus sequence is what that means

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is that in that huge swarm of variants every single one of the variants that we're currently

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tracking could have been there and they could have said okay now we're going to make it could

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there be could there be some geographical localization sure absolutely absolutely and then they move

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back and forth and whatever absolutely that that's all possible even in that dominant where one

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variant is dominant all the other parts of the swarm are probably there but just in a smaller

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and i really think that us taking their their we're taking their word for it that this particular

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sequence is the new dominant variant when in reality understand that they could have sampled

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this variation for five years before the start of the pandemic and had all the the phylogenetic

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tree ready to go and then said okay we're gonna say we found this one then we're gonna say we

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found this one then we're gonna say we found this one and for the most part the sequencing is based

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on the 99 primer sets that are in the sequencing reaction that is distributed so if the control

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of those 99 primer sets is under the control of the right people then as they want to find new

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variants they just change that primer set and they'll find the new variant that they already know is

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just waiting to be sequenced and that's what i mean by conflated background again okay any

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test that's the only my second question i'll stop yeah that i'm gonna can i get back can i get

02:09:16.000 --> 02:09:20.640
back to you on it because i can't see what kind it is and i'm not i don't want to make it i'll

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say something really dumb accidentally but i'll definitely get back to thank you thank you you're

02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:33.680
welcome all right john just your quick question before we go to the last bit yeah jj have you

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looked into any of the ramblings of Harold Krause Bella can you say that name again

02:09:41.280 --> 02:09:47.600
Harold Krause Bella you know i'll put it in the chat thank you um i don't want to waste a lot

02:09:47.600 --> 02:09:53.440
of time on this this guy has you know an overarching cosmology that is a little bit distracting but

02:09:54.480 --> 02:09:59.840
he is pretty brilliant and you know he explains a lot of things that i think are open questions

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that we have but he engages with that biophotonics

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line of thinking and pretty much ties together a tremendous number of variable they've got a

02:10:11.680 --> 02:10:17.280
whole library of this guy talking but if you've never heard of them just maybe watch that one

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it's a little long but see what jumps out at you at that maybe the next time you know you talk to

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us you might be able to expound a little bit on that see what there is useful okay i'll check

02:10:29.840 --> 02:10:36.400
it out i'm a little nervous but i'll definitely check it out okay okay thanks john now before we

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go to you steven jj i have one thing i want to bring to i want to raise and that's this book

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slow death by rubber duck oh nice what's that

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essentially by two Australian researchers published 10 some 10 years ago slow death by rubber duck

02:10:57.680 --> 02:11:04.720
everybody and in fact the year of publication was dah dah dah dah dah

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it just shows you know how to get bloody publication dates on i read 2009 so 14 years old now the

02:11:15.760 --> 02:11:21.840
point about this is that you kill your child by giving them rubber ducks to chew on

02:11:24.160 --> 02:11:30.560
why slow death by rubber duck two University of Queensland researchers who said i wonder what

02:11:30.560 --> 02:11:39.920
my child is chewing on and this book articulates there's over 80 000 synthetic chemicals that are

02:11:39.920 --> 02:11:46.480
are in products and a number of our members our participants have commented on you have also

02:11:46.480 --> 02:11:54.640
jj made this distinction between toxicity and pathogens this book i recommend it to all of you

02:11:54.640 --> 02:12:01.040
very readable very enjoyable 80 000 synthetic chemicals less than five percent of them have

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been tested for safety okay and then we've got you we've got elik zek who gave us a slide and i

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remind all of you with this slide with 37 symptoms of toxicity that are identical to covid

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and common cold and flu symptoms and so everybody whilst we talk about common cold are you sure

02:12:25.680 --> 02:12:30.800
you're not being poisoned and many of us on this call would say yes we are and what i'm jj you

02:12:30.800 --> 02:12:40.160
you're a wonderful exposition and and this since 1970 my naturopath 1970 when i have a cold my

02:12:40.160 --> 02:12:50.240
father would say i'm i don't have a cold i am eliminating and so these symptoms from a disease

02:12:50.240 --> 02:12:55.360
versus getting slow death by rubber duck everybody jj just bring it to your attention

02:12:55.520 --> 02:13:01.360
nice thank you go into it but jump but the toxicity versus an infection stay the last

02:13:01.360 --> 02:13:07.600
questions to you for the next few minutes so jj this is a really important question now so

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um i've been thinking about it a lot over the past three months um but it's kind of coming to a

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head and so i don't want to kind of talk about me but i was involved together with other doctors

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in a massive fight with the british government over uh dr david kelly and so we had a massive

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information we we became experts we were told this by the daily mail and um the top three people at

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the daily mail one of them was the godfather of fleet street uh so-called hall daker and

02:13:44.160 --> 02:13:52.800
we became experts we we fought a very tight campaign without lawyers we we were on our own

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and uh we got letters published in six letters published in the guardian one in the new states

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one the one in the new states one i think cost the editor his job um unfortunately um but anyway

02:14:06.960 --> 02:14:14.640
pointed to this we then got the best lawyers in the united kingdom liday in london the human

02:14:14.640 --> 02:14:20.400
rights lawyers claimants only they were the the government the british government tried to take

02:14:21.040 --> 02:14:30.480
liday out because they had a thousand clients in iraq and there was a four-year uh um investigation

02:14:30.480 --> 02:14:37.680
of liday this huge uh london firm uh on behalf of the british government by the solicitors regulatory

02:14:37.680 --> 02:14:44.720
authority anyway the point was that we got these lawyers on board we didn't even know we were

02:14:44.720 --> 02:14:50.640
going to be litigants but we did become litigants but we didn't realize it there was so brilliant

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and one of the brilliant things they did um so there was one lawyer in particular called

02:14:57.600 --> 02:15:05.520
francis swain and she was absolutely brilliant um but she was incredibly modest that's probably

02:15:05.520 --> 02:15:14.800
why she was so brilliant and she was the kind of chosen one if you like of uh martin day of liday

02:15:14.800 --> 02:15:24.480
so he was the kind of uh formed the company with lee leige his name was martin day it took me four

02:15:24.640 --> 02:15:30.400
there were four recommendations to get to him and then he immediately got francis swain

02:15:30.400 --> 02:15:35.360
swain because i thought it would be martin day taking charge of this very important case

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and it was francis swain so then i'm not sure it was her idea but it probably was her idea

02:15:43.440 --> 02:15:50.560
she instructed a lawyer on the on our behalf because he had all this information very like now

02:15:51.520 --> 02:15:59.200
and so the strategy was this a brilliant strategy i've forgotten about it and it's what we should

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do in my opinion i hope that you'll agree and if you do then we need to work together to identify

02:16:05.760 --> 02:16:12.080
exactly what they honed in on and what they honed in on so they knew we'd formed a very tight campaign

02:16:12.080 --> 02:16:18.640
concentrating on the medicine always making points that we knew that they couldn't answer

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and that's exactly what happened and so a lot of people said oh we didn't succeed in getting a

02:16:25.440 --> 02:16:30.640
uh an inquest but in the end we didn't need an inquest because actually what we were trying to

02:16:30.640 --> 02:16:36.480
do was change public opinion from dr david kelly according to the british government having committed

02:16:36.480 --> 02:16:44.720
suicide and changing that public opinion to oh he was bumped off which is what people say now

02:16:44.720 --> 02:16:51.600
who wants it and so what the lord lawyer this lawyer i think was francis swain she brilliantly

02:16:51.600 --> 02:16:59.440
honed in on instructing a barrister called richard herma and the tactics seem to be to me

02:17:00.160 --> 02:17:06.880
but i'm not sure i never had it confirmed but uh they wanted a barrister a very able barrister

02:17:07.440 --> 02:17:15.120
but a hungry barrister i.e. someone who was going to be qc in the next two or three years you know

02:17:15.120 --> 02:17:23.360
qc's queens council now king's council so richard herma fitted the bill he was absolutely brilliant

02:17:24.000 --> 02:17:31.920
and his his task was to identify the single point weakest point of the british government when it

02:17:32.000 --> 02:17:39.280
came to dr david kelly and to identify what it was and also that point had to be

02:17:40.480 --> 02:17:48.640
understood by the people very importantly and so what he came up with out of this massive

02:17:48.640 --> 02:17:55.680
information much a bit medical well a lot of a lot of it medical and uh about coroner's law and

02:17:55.760 --> 02:18:02.080
inquests he said that the single most important point out of all the many points which could be

02:18:02.080 --> 02:18:08.160
made and the one that the lawyers and we should concentrate on was that it was not possible

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to bleed to death from an owner archery which is the small archery on the on the medial aspect of

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the ventral surface of the wrist and that was a brilliant strategy because they were

02:18:26.800 --> 02:18:33.120
stumped before but they were really stumped when they had to argue against that so my question to

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you is jjj what is the biggest lie and secondly what is the part of the narrative that they're

02:18:42.400 --> 02:18:48.240
most vulnerable to attack on and unable to defend himself because that was the case with the

02:18:49.120 --> 02:18:57.040
bleeding to death from from a severed owner archery oh that's that's a tricky question yeah

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it's a tricky question um i don't know if i have the right answer off the top of my head but my gut

02:19:03.280 --> 02:19:11.760
says that um michael eden would agree with me that that vulnerability is the story of an RNA

02:19:11.760 --> 02:19:17.280
based pandemic so the story that we have to accept and we're going to go along with their

02:19:17.280 --> 02:19:23.360
story is that there wasn't something there and then in the end of 2019 there was something in a point

02:19:24.160 --> 02:19:29.920
that then spread from that point around the world on airplanes and is continuing to spread

02:19:29.920 --> 02:19:38.400
around the world now i really think that is the the giant lie because that's not a small lie that's

02:19:38.480 --> 02:19:45.360
a magnificently gigantic massive lie about the potential for RNA to replicate and

02:19:46.560 --> 02:19:50.880
so i think that's where they're the most vulnerable that's where the public understand that that's

02:19:50.880 --> 02:19:55.680
that's the that's the point i don't think that it's impossible for the public to understand that

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yes they're going to resist and yes the tv will will tell the public that they can't possibly

02:20:00.720 --> 02:20:06.560
understand it but it's a very simple explanation that gets simpler every time i give it and i don't

02:20:06.560 --> 02:20:12.000
think that anybody that's really interested if you start with as this is michael eden's strategy

02:20:12.560 --> 02:20:18.080
start with they lied and then when people are curious enough to say what did they lie about

02:20:18.080 --> 02:20:26.000
start with the fidelity of RNA the idea that an RNA molecule if granted the right sequence

02:20:26.000 --> 02:20:32.400
can replicate with high fidelity and go around the world that infect millions of people in a way

02:20:33.040 --> 02:20:39.200
that it's never happened before not even close not even if you give them three orders of magnitude

02:20:39.200 --> 02:20:46.320
it's still never happened and so it's i think that that's where i got with my friend just the

02:20:46.320 --> 02:20:50.400
other day who came into town who hadn't heard me and didn't know where i was working okay jib what

02:20:50.400 --> 02:20:56.560
about they think that's where you start what there was no diagnosis covid-19 because that stops people

02:20:56.560 --> 02:21:00.480
in the tracks i've tried and steven hang on hang on hang on hang on we're we're now you've got the

02:21:00.480 --> 02:21:05.760
answer it's a great answer steven stick with that answer right because i like that's a great thing

02:21:05.760 --> 02:21:10.080
for us because that's what i had questioned that's what marvin passed it's not just one answer to

02:21:10.080 --> 02:21:15.600
this we need to discuss no no you asked for an answer he gave you one answer yeah you know and

02:21:15.600 --> 02:21:20.000
and it's it's it's tied because we're gonna have not half an hour for another conversation but it's

02:21:20.000 --> 02:21:27.200
a great question and so let's stick with that gosh how would we explain that steven what jj is

02:21:27.200 --> 02:21:32.480
saying he says it's getting simpler each time because i take your point the tip of the spear

02:21:32.480 --> 02:21:38.960
the david kelly metaphor is an excellent one for us absolutely all right steven one more minute one

02:21:38.960 --> 02:21:43.360
more jj if you've got a second one that steven wants that's exactly what i was going to ask him

02:21:43.360 --> 02:21:49.280
next one what's that you want a second one that their boner one yeah well second then the second

02:21:49.360 --> 02:21:53.920
one is their their ridiculous model of immunity that has to do with anybody's floating in your

02:21:53.920 --> 02:21:59.760
blood so we just have to challenge people to understand how dumb that is and why that was

02:21:59.760 --> 02:22:06.960
inserted already decades ago but but the point that the thing i'd like just like to say is that

02:22:06.960 --> 02:22:14.800
people are so wedded even in this group to having had covid 19 they're shocked when when a doctor

02:22:14.800 --> 02:22:22.480
turned round for example and says there was no reliable diagnosis covid 19 and that it was a

02:22:22.480 --> 02:22:29.840
fraud the whole thing that there was no symptom which was pathognomonic for covid 19 and there was

02:22:29.840 --> 02:22:36.640
the pcr test of course was a joke and should never have been deployed so then shocked when i as a

02:22:36.640 --> 02:22:43.360
medical doctor say and look them in the eye and say i'm sorry i know you want to want to stick with

02:22:43.360 --> 02:22:49.200
that story that you've had covid 19 but there was no diagnosis of covid 19 in my opinion right

02:22:49.200 --> 02:22:55.440
i just think the the danger of that is is that the planners of this orchestration have thought

02:22:55.440 --> 02:23:01.200
of that already and they have done something so the question is like Jim earlier said did they

02:23:01.200 --> 02:23:07.280
release a bacterial pathogen that caused respiratory disease and then said it was a coronavirus and

02:23:07.280 --> 02:23:12.480
sampled from a conflated background signal or did they use clones to make people sick

02:23:13.040 --> 02:23:19.360
that part of the crime we don't know but there's a lot of people who had something at the same

02:23:19.360 --> 02:23:26.480
time as other people had something and i don't necessarily say that you're wrong and that is it

02:23:26.480 --> 02:23:32.560
JJ points i'm trying to make is that this tactic this strategy came from one of the most brilliant

02:23:32.560 --> 02:23:38.720
lawyers in the world and that's why i'm arguing that if you try to make people say that what they

02:23:38.800 --> 02:23:45.040
experienced isn't what they experienced that's more challenging than to say they lied and that

02:23:45.040 --> 02:23:50.480
they lied about this biology of our day that's what i mean because you can get there later we're

02:23:50.480 --> 02:23:55.760
going so what i'm trying to do is highlight the strategy in your mind that yes i get it

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if we can work on that he's got it JJ thank you so much you're very welcome no we could go for

02:24:02.960 --> 02:24:08.080
another four hours we cleave but you should be pleased JJ next time you come on you can do a

02:24:08.080 --> 02:24:12.960
five-minute intro we'll hit the questions going without any drama so at least at least we've got

02:24:12.960 --> 02:24:17.600
some of your knowledge to handle our difficult questions steven thank you for organizing

02:24:17.600 --> 02:24:24.320
JJ thank you for jumping in at the last a minute and thanks everybody for participation for your

02:24:24.320 --> 02:24:32.320
insights for thoughts for provocative thoughts um we fight the fight and JJ i was was saying this

02:24:32.320 --> 02:24:38.720
is a six-year war world war three someone with spiritual information says now it's a seven-year

02:24:38.720 --> 02:24:43.680
war so we're three and a half years into a seven-year war so everybody just get rejuvenated

02:24:43.680 --> 02:24:49.120
steven with a three and a half more years of these meetings okay everybody enjoy all right thanks

02:24:49.120 --> 02:24:57.200
for being here bye thank you so much thank you and everybody else thank you JJ while it's funny

02:24:57.200 --> 02:25:02.960
you said that uh charles about seven years check out revelation not

02:25:03.600 --> 02:25:10.560
it was a great way to hear it all right i just signed off thank you guys for sitting in um i hope

02:25:10.560 --> 02:25:14.320
i'm going to be able to hang out with my friend tonight and that means i won't stream later this

02:25:14.320 --> 02:25:19.760
was my stream for today um i apologize for the short notice i got called at the last minute because

02:25:20.560 --> 02:25:26.720
um david martin decided not to show up um it was an impromptu little thing i don't know how far off

02:25:26.720 --> 02:25:35.280
the rails i sounded um but anyway thanks for joining me i'll stream this song out um and i will

02:25:35.280 --> 02:25:42.880
see you guys again tomorrow um i probably won't do two hours and 24 minutes tomorrow but i had to

02:25:42.880 --> 02:25:58.800
do that when i get get off for a guide platform so thanks very much guys for for being here

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so

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I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.

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Stop lying!

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I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.

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Stop lying! Stop lying!

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I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.

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Stop lying! Stop lying!

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I have no responsibility for the current pandemic.

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Stop lying!

