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No. It might not be the most beautiful sound, but there's no noise. There's no none of

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that static key stuff we used to get. So that's good. All right. Here comes J.J. Kui PhD.

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And this is my first time meeting him, so... Oh, I... You were on my show, you crazy man.

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No, not at all, just a pinger, too, on the email and the chat, that's all.

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What you talking about, Willis? You were on my show. Who, me? Yeah, you. Yeah. You were

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on his show. You were on my show. Are you serious? Yeah, you're a crazy old man, but that's

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all right. I like that. That's funny. Hey, I might be crazy, but I'm not old. Very good.

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No, no way. Well, I was on your show. Why was I on your show? I interviewed you. That's

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why you crazy person. That's right. It wasn't a very memorable interview, apparently, but that's

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okay. I don't take any insults. I'm a terrible interviewer. Oh, it's just, you know what it is.

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It's we doing, you know, sometimes we do two shows a day, you work in your ass off some of my,

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I'm sorry, I forgot about it. Do I need to turn on some more light? That doesn't look very good to me.

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See your something to see your face a little better would be would be nice.

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And that looks like the gig at home studio. Mm hmm. Yes. Now, what would you like me to call you

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Jay? Is it Jay? Is that what you like? Jay is fine with me. Yeah, if you want to get funny,

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you can say Dr. Jay, but I I prefer Jay. It's fine. Don't I don't take that seriously.

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What about professor? I don't guess you know, it doesn't work. I'm not a professor anymore.

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Well, what Dr. what Dr. bike rider? Dr. bike rider. That's good. There you go.

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All right. Well, gentlemen, it's your time. You ready? We are. Okay. I think.

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All right. Comes to the funky music.

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Dr.

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And hello, everybody.

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I'm John O'Loughlin. Welcome to McDuff lives and it's Wednesday night. It's a Wednesday night trio

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and tonight it's my great pleasure to introduce a new trio with J. J. Cooey PhD, Mark Koolack of

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Whosetonic Live and Myself and I'm really, really excited to get together with you guys. I've

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actually been looking forward to this for about four months now and I'll tell you what really got

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me going was the infectious clone hypothesis that J. J. Cooey publishes on his gigaome biological

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channel on Twitch and I think that the presentation that he's done is tremendous and helps me to

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understand things that I just couldn't understand before but it makes a lot of sense to me so I

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want to talk about that tonight. I also want to say to Mark Koolack that Mark Koolack has really

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been blowing my mind with all of his work for about four years now but in terms of

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the the current alleged pandemic or whatever you want to call it, the work that you did

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and others but exposing the Snohomish County man thing really is a way to open the discussion I

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think with people that are not familiar with how fishy this whole thing really is.

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So to start with the Snohomish County man and that really kind of broke down my resistance to

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opposing the authorities in this thing, now we have comes along J. Cooey with his infectious

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clones theory which I have tried to put together in a podcast of my own to try to you know tell

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my subscribers what it's like and I don't know how well I did but what I want to do tonight is to

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try to verify my work and try to push forward in in illuminating this to everybody else.

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So infectious clones I I googled it I don't know if either of you ever googled infectious clones

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but what came up was some virology studies about plants about tobacco and stuff that where they

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say oh yeah we we have to have infectious clones we use them to study these viruses because

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these viruses are ephemeral these viruses are mRNA viruses and that is JJ and Mark have been

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pounding in this for years now is now clearly not a perfect copy and so JJ's work in exposing

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that the the metaphor that he uses of a original being copied onto a CD and then the CD gets

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copied onto a bunch of cassette tapes and if you've ever had that experience you know that by the

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time it's on a cassette tape it's it's degraded great deal and that hope and that's the metaphor

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that I like to think of in terms of wow they can make something maybe infectious

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but it's not going to be infectious forever it's going to it's that lifestyle that lifetime is

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going to be limited by the fact that it's RNA and not DNA which DNA would last a lot longer.

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So this is where I am kind of jumping off from those two big illuminations for me

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the Snohomish County man the story and and so much flaky stuff between then and now where they

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you know I mean if they really wanted to to do some contract contact tracing from Snohomish

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County man they should have started by getting his address his phone number and his date of birth

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but they didn't even do that. Well guys let me turn it over to you and ask you if I've made a fair

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summary of what we've been what I've been talking about so far and and and maybe start with Mark

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since Mark you've been the Snohomish County man for me. Absolutely I think that's a it's a good start

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and it's a so to summarize or a one review is that you're willing to your you are in the act

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in the process of revisiting the the official narrative explanation of what happened

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and possibly even questioning some of the or the primary alternative narrative which has been

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packaged up for us and maybe you're considering the possibility that it could be maybe somewhere in

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the middle that they're trying to come up with an explanation actually satisfies all of the data

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that you are or the evidence that is before you and before everyone else and this is a an

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important time because people in your situation right now are encouraged to ask I think sometimes

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the wrong questions which lead people right back into it's going to be one thing or another thing

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I'll review Snohomish County man in a second but you know one of them for example would be

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I mean I'll let Jay handle the the the erroneous approach of do viruses exist but another one is

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was there any pandemic and that's a tricky question to answer because I think when someone says no

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which I agree with but you have to then say that doesn't mean if there's no pandemic that doesn't

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mean there was there was no excess death there's a big difference there and it can be it can very

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easily sound like if someone were to say well I don't think the conditions of a pandemic of

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iris which was spreading endlessly from person to person around the globe was really happening

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you immediately get put into a box of I guess you assume that no one died right and of course that's

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not what the person who goes there would be saying so we've been encouraged to ask I think

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sometimes the wrong question first and which just leads us back into camp A or camp B and

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avoids the the critical thinking in the middle which really help us sort things out that's exactly

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where I think I think that Jay's work comes in because then you have the I think his name was

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Giordano the kind of military Syop guy that's telling everybody well here's here's how you can

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freak out the entire world you know you can make them all think that there's a there's a pandemic

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that suddenly appeared you know that everybody's going to be sick you know and there's going to be

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bodies on the streets and here's how we do it and he's this guy named Giordano who Jay has

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reported on and so I think that is that's the way I would dispel that stuff mark would be to say

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well look I mean listen to what Jay has to say let's let's turn to that Jay let's go ahead

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and and and and kind of introduce or or tell me how did I do in trying to explain the basics of

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your hypothesis well I'm actually really impressed that Google was so confessional

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and forthright with with the truth and I find it very nice that you you use the word ephemeral

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because I think for the most part virology in the 70s and 80s was really the study of

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something very ephemeral and they all understood that and it was uh it was often a joke you know

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everybody uh joking about studying virology was joking about studying things that you can't study

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and so it's uh I think it's a very very exciting time if you if you if you want my honest opinion

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because it's the truth in this particular scenario is so some authors use the word acidic to describe

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a truth that kind of dissolves all the other stuff that's around it and this truth that RNA

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has a sort of limited fidelity and a limited lifespan and a sort of limited utility as for

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transmitting information um and these limitations and how they play into the viral dynamics of things

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before the pandemic versus after um we have been given this incredibly simplified cartoon

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of how a virus works where you know variants can sweep the planet and the planet changes color

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and then it changes color again as delta takes over whatever and this kind of of behavior has

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never been observed before this kind of fidelity has never been observed before this kind of coverage

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by a a single RNA molecules never been it's never been documented before and yet we're just supposed

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to believe this because everybody is very united in how they insist that it's true and I think

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that's the trick is that as long as people just hold that line there's going to be a good portion

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of people that aren't going to be able to penetrate that consensus um with regard to so

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how much county man I think mark and I story really tied so nicely together because

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the biology of coronavirus as you describe for tobacco mosaic viruses is very similar it's an

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ephemeral thing usually what they can do is they can find a sequence in the wild but beyond that

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maybe they can culture it for a little while enough to get enough material which permits the

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sequencing but at some point in time they need to go back to this DNA template generate enough

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of that DNA to convert to RNA and then they can repeat the experiment over and over with the same

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you know baseline RNA starting point but if you're starting from the wild you're always starting

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from something new and so that's why for example if you look at the the coronavirus literature before

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the pandemic you will find that the mass majority of the way the methodology that they found coronavirus

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was to look for a single gene the RNA dependent RNA polymerase and if they found that gene then in

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that same sample they would use a bunch of random primers to try and amplify everything that was

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in there and then try to match it up with other known coronavirus genes but it was already assumed

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that there was a coronavirus in there if they found this extremely conserved RNA dependent RNA

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polymerase and so the way that we found coronaviruses and the way that we identified them before the

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pandemic was so different and so less specific and so much more broad stroke meaning let's just find

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it never mind trying to say which one it is and this level of or sorry this lack of fidelity is

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just evident for all of the years before the pandemic and then suddenly there's this switch

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to an insistence that not only can we detect them with high fidelity but any company can put

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together a product which can replicate this extremely exquisite detection method which

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one of the frustrations I have to confess is that that's what they bold us over with right because

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with the Sohomish County man and I think this is where Mark and I really connected the Sohomish

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County man and I want Mark to come back in here in a minute because I'm going to miss a lot of

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these details the Sohomish County man checks every virology box he was a guy who wasn't that sick

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didn't really need to go to the hospital when he came to the hospital he wasn't dying they took

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a sample of him and lo and behold it grew in a dish which is really rare for coronavirus and

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especially rare if the person isn't vomiting by viral load right obviously he wasn't sick so

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did he have much we don't know but enough for them to grow and sequence and it happened in a place

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where a guy was already ready with some kind of nanoparticle and was already ready with this

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computer program to take the sequence that came out of this random guy that they just let

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leave the hospital and and this sequence was turned into a vaccine candidate in like a week

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and so this all occurs just kind of lucky we got a three-dimensional reconstruction of the spike

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protein which showed a novel fear and cleavage site and a guy who was ready to make a vaccine

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and a patient that just happened to have the perfectly culturable virus that matched the

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lulon sequence i might have missed something but i mean is that not a wonderful confluence of details

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well let me just let me just get one clarification and i never have understood the word primer could

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you tell us please what that is sure um if you uh do i have this um if you i'm going to do it really

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quick if you um if you sequence uh a RNA sequence think of it like a sentence um so think of the

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sentence like the quick brown the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog um and if you take that

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sentence then the primers would be the in the beginning of the thing and it would be uh g o d

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at the end dog and so those two primers would stick to the beginning of the sentence in the end of

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the sentence and allow an enzyme to copy the sentence from the end to the beginning or from the beginning

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to the end and so the primers are the two short RNA sequences that you're using to probe your sample

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and you hope that they'll bind to RNA and the sample and create a double-stranded RNA that

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can be copied and that's kind of a simplification actually there's going to be some molecular

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biologists they're going to say he doesn't know what he's talking about so let me let me back that

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up a minute the RNA in any sample is first converted to DNA and that conversion is done with reverse

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transcriptase so then you have DNA fragments which are it are complementary to the RNA that was in

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your original sample then you use primers to find those DNA copies of the RNA in the original sample

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and those DNA fragments are amplified by your primers and your primers need to be specific for

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that DNA but essentially what you're doing is you're designing primers which will be the beginning

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or end words of the coronavirus gene that you're looking to find and that's how you're you're trying

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to find these different molecular signals regardless of what you're using PCR to find

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the primers are the two the two sequences that you're using to probe all of the DNA that's in your sample

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while that was a long explanation that was a terrible answer i'm sorry but you know i i thought

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i i'd force you to do it because i've heard that word so many times and you're the man so i took

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advantage no no no problem all right do you want it to get back to mark yeah so the so how much

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county man i mean how many other things were tied up in that guy well there's never been a photo of

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him other than somebody in one of the the bubble cards um his name has never been released all we

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know he was a 35 year old male that was returning from Wuhan and he returned on i think it was

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that was the dates uh it was it was January 15th it was January 15th i think um and uh and

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yeah he returned on January the 15th the United States like just before there was some i think

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they started talking about some travel restrictions or something like that and

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uh he has no family in the United States no relatives no roommates we don't know where he

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works um uh he went to the hospital uh three days after he came back uh started to say he

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experienced symptoms uh of course there was a regional person that had some good cdc connection

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instead immediately identified oh no this might be related to that weird thing that's happening

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in china so he was checked into the hospital i think on the 18th there's a crazy story of as uh

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of a sample uh that was taken from him for the virus right uh which somehow wound up getting to

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uh either Bethesda or Atlanta for uh analysis uh by eight a.m. the following morning even though

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there were no direct flights um there's no way that a package could have gotten from that area to

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Atlanta not to mention if he had the most contagious virus that the world has ever seen

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how did he fly from Wuhan to Seattle not get anyone sick there's no direct flights from Wuhan to

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Seattle which means he took at least one of the connecting flight and not one other person got

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sick and his whole time at the hospital no one got sick from him and then he just disappeared

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into the wilderness the snowmish county man i just remembered maybe it was the remdesivir they

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used on him well he just happened to have absolutely textbook textbook symptoms textbook description

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of what coronavirus was everything started to get worse exactly the perfect time uh and he was the

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first person that was approved to have compassionate use of uh remdesivir uh multiple names for

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involved in that i know cena bovari was one though and then he had an absolutely perfect 100

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recovery after taking remdesivir 100 perfect recovery um and that speaks a lot for the power

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of remdesivir yeah well uh this is this is this is serious job because i mean they should get they

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should get this guy and make an ad with him the serious part is the fact that they had one anecdotal

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data point right now one point was enough to start trials and that the trials if the trials

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weren't going well they would actually stop trials and say well these trials maybe this one over here

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isn't going so well but you know it worked with the the phantom snowmish county man

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and then and then just one thing led to the next uh and then a computer spat out remdesivir

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somehow with the defense reduction agency and lo and behold it became the only thing that had

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any evidence of uh of providing therapeutic value so uh i think that there is because we're in

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rumble we could speak a bit more freely i think it's a possibility that this guy either was a myth

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or and this is a far this is a far-flung conspiracy all right

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there was a 35 year old scientist in china doctor wane lee wane laying i i forget the fellow's name

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who was credited as being uh one of the greatest heroes since gondi because he blew the whistle on

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the risk of uh of coronavirus in china right and i guess he was arrested and imprisoned

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this 35 year old chinese guy that eventually died in the hospital was never seen after the time

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that the 35 year old snowmish county man appeared i suspect that they took this doctor who would

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have known how to describe a textbook case of coronavirus flew him to seattle and then he was

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in the bubble wrap and then when he was done alone he's off with a new identity i i i would bet

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i would bet a lot of money on that or he's dead

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and uh there was uh there was some legislators uh some congressmen or women i uh who in the

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united states who actually wanted to rename a street after that chinese scientist they held

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them in such high regard wow so so the snow homage county man's story is it is it's an exceptional

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story it's because it provided anecdotal evidence of medicine which wound up i think having lethal

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results for probably tens of thousands if not over a hundred thousand people just within the

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united states it sounds funny you can i i laugh when i tell it but it the consequences of this

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stuff has been incredibly serious not to mention if we are to believe that some of the

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additional therapy you know let's just say transfections or countermeasures being used

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are only being used because of the perceived risk of covid yeah that would also mean that

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all of those injuries and deaths are also ultimately the responsibility of whoever

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overhyped the risk of this thing so i'm always cautious about answering the question of was

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there a pandemic like well the best of my knowledge there really were a lot of excess deaths what was

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it because an RNA virus just spun around the world and then and then what add to add one thing to

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what jay said about this whole concept of virus mutation and i always joke about this one too

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you hear uh these phrases of the oh uh the on the cron now is the big thing or delta is going wild

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right and consider the fact that we're told that viruses always mutate they're mutating all the

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time every second they're mutating they're always going in different directions and they're always

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selecting based upon virulence and and lethality etc yet somehow at the snap of a finger

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all the viruses mutate to one specific thing overnight sort of like everyone waking up with red

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hair in the morning even though they didn't even have another generation these narratives john

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are so absurd and and hilarious uh it's i'm it is actually quite offensive that you don't i don't

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see more people even in the supposed truth community calling this stuff out but i uh i think uh i think

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jay should pick it up from here well that's what we're trying to do and we're trying to give some

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some uh you know i'm trying to do an hour show here which people can latch on to and say oh i get

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it now you know and so i want to get back to jay and a couple of points uh i don't want to

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to omit his point your point jay about the uh test i guess the pcr test is what we're talking

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about uh not being specific to any particular coronavirus and are you with me can you hear me

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i am here sorry i'm just focusing another camera because i'm anticipating you're gonna want me to

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draw it's okay go ahead okay well yeah maybe maybe that would help but where i'm going with this is

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is about the uh mark was talking about Snohomish county man on on january 16th 17th uh uh things

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happening then but that very weakened a doctor in germany named christian drosston

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announced that he had created a modification of the standard pcr test that would specifically find

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the uh covid 19 sars covid to coronavirus and based upon his recommendation suddenly everybody in

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the world was using the pcr test which is not supposed to be a test as i understand it but they

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were using that same um make that that way to determine whether somebody had or did not have

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this coronavirus that the snohomish county man had had and you know when jay first explained that

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no this this they couldn't tell one coronavirus from another i was like wow this is this is completely

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contradicting what this christian drosston said that he was able to magically come up with this

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modified pcr test over the weekend and it became the worldwide standard by which everybody is judged

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and of course from there we all if you remember and i think you guys remember a lot of people

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will remember that we started getting into the controversy of how many uh revolutions or how

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many times did they spin it through the pcr and if it's more than you know 25 or so then it's not

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really significant but they were spending it 35 times just to pump up the numbers and i mean

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that to me is also a big part of what jay can do is to is to expose that so

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have i got that about right jay yeah so i'm just was trying to see if i could pull something up

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that would help us talk about this so first of all um whoops um oh that's the wrong screen i want

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this one um this is the pcr test for the who um i'm not sure let me look at the bottom here if this

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is i think this is how they started but i'm not sure if this is where they are now where they

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started january 11th 20 no no this is 2020 so this is what they started with so if you take a look

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at this list here they are they are doing the rdrp or rdrp gene here which is the RNA dependent

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RNA polymerase and they have two primers here and then they have an RNA dependent RNA polymerase gene

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another um another pcr product of 100 base pairs with two primers and then they have the e-gene

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so what's interesting about this is that the e-gene of coronaviruses is shared across a lot of

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SARS viruses and in fact drastic um when it was still kind of an organization um covered a

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a blogger by the name of um and the blog is still up as far as i know it's called nerd has power

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and if you go to that blog you just google nerd has power you can find this blog where he describes

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the fact that the the RATG 13 sequence which was the closest known sequence to SARS-CoV-2 in the

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WIV catalog was made up and the reason why this person thought that RATG 13 was a made up virus

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and that therefore SARS-CoV-2 might be a made up virus was because all the viruses in a paper

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from 2000 I'm gonna get the year wrong but it was 2012 and RATG 13 sequence

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and SARS-CoV-2 all had the same roughly the same e-protein and actually the RATG 13 sequence

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and two other viruses published by WIV had the exact same e-protein now what they

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and other people that I think are reporting this incorrectly have said is that this is a sign that

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this is um this is a fake virus but what I think this is is more um an example of what I was talking

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about earlier which is when you find an ephemeral signal that has missing pieces one of the many

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missing pieces can be the e-protein gene and they know the coronavirus is require an e-protein for

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the assembly of the of the actual it's part of the kind of capsid thing it doesn't really have a

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capsid but it's part of the of the shell of the virus so if you imagine a scenario where in those

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earlier papers they found coronaviruses but they were incomplete genomes but then they said okay

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well we'll throw in this e-gene in both of them and then we'll grow them up as clones so we can

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study them and then they made up another one RATG 13 and they threw in an e-gene there

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and so what you're seeing evidence here of number not here directly but what you're you get the idea

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of what's going on here is that the e-gene is a very small protein reasonably conserved but not

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in a way that would be expected to be identical across coronaviruses so it's an interesting target

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because it shouldn't be specific and more importantly should change a little bit

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but the RNA dependent RNA polymerase gene is a highly conserved I mean highly conserved

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and it's a big multi multi subunit protein and what that means is if they choose the most

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conserved part of that protein like for example the wheels of a car and you use the wheels of a

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car like steel belted radials as being the indicator of a car being present and then you said well

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this is a highly specific test for a Mercedes 320 convertible and what does it test for well

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test for steel belted tires you'd be like well that's not very specific every car has got those

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and with the RNA dependent RNA polymerase gene it's very hard to be specific with that

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with that gene because that gene is present in every coronavirus and it is highly conserved

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because it is the gene that purports to do the copying so you can't make errors with that

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you can't make mistakes on that gene if you make mistakes copying that portion of the genome

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that copy of the genome is worthless so the idea that they're looking for this

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I used too much time again but the idea that they use this as the primary probe

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indicates that this is more like a pan coronavirus test than it is a test that would be specific

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for SARS-CoV-2 simply because SARS-CoV-2 is defined mostly by its structural protein

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and its spike protein so if you're not testing for that you would never know how you're

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differentiating from any of the other coronaviruses that were expected to be in the background

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and you weren't required to get all three you required to get two of three so there's no

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specificity here at all now compare that I just happen to have this here to what they did in

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2019 or 20 for us 23 for us now they're doing the end protein so if we move this one over here

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they're doing two primer sets here for the end protein and so now the specificity of

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tests that look for the RNA dependent RNA polymerase are very different than the specificity

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that looking for the end protein I don't know how they're better or worse but they have to be

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different because each of the proteins in the coronavirus genome is conserved to a different

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degree in other words if you were trying to detect the presence of a car one of the things

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that's highly conserved is they all have rubber tires one thing that's less highly conserved is

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that they all have leather seats one thing that's even less highly conserved is that they have

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leather dashes or or led lights or or gold gold uh plated things inside of it would be even more

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rare and so the question is with all of these coronaviruses tests are they really specific for

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a specific coronavirus and the answer before 2020 is that's impossible but the answer after

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2020 is of course they're extremely specific for just this one and there's no I just don't think

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that there's any evidence that they ever were extremely specific and maybe I'll just do this one

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thing mark and then I'll shut up because I know I'm taking a lot of time here but you were asking

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before about primers and there's something that about primers that a lot of um academic biologists

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assume but I want to clear up for all the academic biologists up there that this didn't happen

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okay so if you're looking for a sequence and that's the sequence and you design primers and those

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are the primers and then this would be filled in by the PCR or this would be filled in by the PCR

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and you would copy and amplify and you would find what you were looking for academic biologists

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don't do it like this if this was the sentence the quick brown I'm writing too fast

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there's my sentence the the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog you would use primers of the

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and dog to find the the sentence and that would be a reasonably reasonably

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specific set of primers but it would pick up every sentence in every book that started or had the

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somewhere in it and had dog after that and so that's a lot of sentences that aren't the quick brown

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fox jumps over the lazy dog and a book that you might read it might amplify more than this sentence

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so what is typically done in academic biology is that you do two rounds of PCR and so you have

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primers and then you have nested primers so nested primers in this reaction would be QUI

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and ONG so essentially you would run the first PCR reaction with the and dog and you would amplify

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all the sentences that have the and dog in it in that order some separated by more words or

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less words and then you would run a second PCR with the primer ONG for this part of the sentence

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and quick QUI for this part of the sentence and so now of the of the all of the little sentences

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that you amplified with the and dog you're now selecting only the sentences that have

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QUI at the beginning and ONG at the end in that order and now you've really made

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your two-step PCR test extremely specific but in Canada and in America and in most places in

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the world they weren't using nested primers but anytime anybody does PCR in a university

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because they're writing a nature paper and they're going to get tenure they're always using nested

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PCR so they all assume that these COVID tests must be nested they would not use nested primers

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and there's no specificity at all and that's exactly what they did they did not use nested

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primers and in Canada they didn't use that for the entire pandemic so just two primers that's it

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and so any sentence that has this word in the beginning or this word near the end will be amplified

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regardless of its length and so that's the problem I don't know if that was a very good

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illustration but I hope it was a good explanation am I still on talk to me goose you're in the

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show and I don't hear anybody else what happened well I came down so we could see a graphic okay

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sorry I thought you guys went away yeah we're on work still here and mark still here but just

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building on what Jay said is if you were to start testing for something in your environment

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or told to test for something in your environment that you never tested before

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four before and if you believed or were told to believe that you're testing for something which

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never existed before right even though it may have you could be led to believe that something new

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has just emerged and is now spreading that's the simplest way of saying it so what's important

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here is a whole lot of these things these detection tests were used and they really did

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glow all kinds of colors or not and there really was a lot of data collected and that data just

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can't be said that it didn't happen it did but doesn't mean what they want you and I

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to think it means right and if they were just taking something which would have tested positive

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maybe ten years ago anyways but didn't tell you but you didn't have the test till now and they said

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this is new it looks like something new and novel is spreading like wildfire and they took advantage

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of our faith that there could never have been something a trick like this pulled on us at the

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scale I fell for it a lot of us did and the consequences were real they were but then I just

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don't believe the official narrative at all of of what was spreading and hopefully that simplifies

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what Jay said in a more more technically elaborate and accurate way what I want to do is just

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summarize it and say that what what we have summarized here tonight so far is evidence of a

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very very clear conspiracy this this is a conspiracy there's no other way that they could have gotten

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those reports all around the world you know within so many hours I mean have you seen anybody

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seen those list of the times you know of the day when the first case was reported you know in

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first case in San Francisco first case in Melbourne first case in South Africa first you know and

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it's like they're an hour apart and and this is this is Jay Jay's theory or hypothesis is that

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that is evidence of a conspiracy to create a pandemic a fear of a pandemic but the fact is that they

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were limited by the ephemeral nature of the infectious clones they were using but they did

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have infectious clones and people did get sick and so that's you know we've got positive yeah

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people did get sick and and now we have well I guess the next step in in exposing or the

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exposition of what what what we're trying to do tonight would be to talk to Mark about Remdesivir

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because in order for us to be you know first of all they had Snohomish County man as the example

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of hey take Remdesivir you'll be fine in three days but then the deception that there is this

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pandemic everywhere coupled with oh we've got to use Remdesivir Mark why did they do that

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well why did they are why did did they say they did it they say they did it because there's this

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deadly novel virus spreading like wildfire and which because it's novel after all we've never

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used these tests before we're testing for something that we've never tested before

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tested for before it's novel so because it's so novel and unique you and I cannot possibly

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understand how to defend ourselves our bodies would never understand this thing because it's so

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unique therefore the only logical way to save lives would be to have a a powerful and new

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therapeutic to help people recover and that there was some evidence limited evidence

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that Remdesivir had some therapeutic value now the bar was set extremely low arguably to the point

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where it didn't have any however it the very fact that they did test it and at least it was some

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warp data to suggest that it had ffk just bent or benefits they were able to push it

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the the thing with Remdesivir I mean Remdesivir it's a very complicated compound

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it's been described so I think it takes a long time to manufacture

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there's a possibility probably a strong possibility that it does have a beneficial activity

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for people who have been possibly exposed at that moment to something like an infectious

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clone like the day of and I mean these things were developed for warfighters for people in the

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battlefield that are being potentially hit with synthetic biological agents so that their bodies

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perhaps can you know it's still bad but it's it's as opposed to having to deal with the full

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load of a synthetic biological agent Remdesivir might give you a chance to survive it

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now Remdesivir was not designed for someone who's been sick for a week and a half to get better

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in fact in the cases where Remdesivir was for many people prescribed and used as part of these

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hospital protocols it had detrimental effects and caused the body to be further straight further

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stressed and in many cases led to a situation where the patients felt weaker some of them

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allowed themselves to be intubated additional medicine was given and oftentimes the results

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were lethal now the question is is was the this belief that we can't look at any of these other

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this whole world of medicine a lot of it's not good but even you can't look at any of it

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aside from Remdesivir and then ivermectin and one other thing maybe you can't look at any of it

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just have to look at these these two or three things this is the whole toolbox right now

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everything else can't even consider antibiotics because this is a novel virus they said so

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um this means that there were potentially many people that succumbed to that lost their life

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because they were treated based upon a health protocol that was designed specifically for people

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who have tested positive for a novel virus whereas if you go to the hospital traditionally if you

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have a fever or if you have a broken arm or something they they treat the symptoms right um uh they

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don't they don't test you know to see exactly specifically how the proteins are designed on the

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thing that's making you sick if you got a fever you know there's certain ways to treat it you know

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if you have pain or whatever and it's not super super super specific to the pathogen that was

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people were encouraged to abandon that thinking with coronavirus and now think that

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based upon the very specific description of the invading pathogen you need to have a very very

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specific course of action taken taken to that and those are we just refer to them simply as

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protocols but they're really the the hospital protocol specific to people who were tested positive

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or who are identified symptomatically to have the novel SARS-CoV-2 virus and the COVID-19

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disease associated with it so again um how many of the additional excess deaths which really did

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happen uh could have been avoided if we simply treated people based upon their symptoms

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here's another thing john look at it this way how many people have you heard of we're just walking

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down the street who are mowing their lawn and just suddenly croaked and died of COVID

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um i would say zero zero yeah you know i'm like stroke heart attack i'm not trying to be funny

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about it no but i'm looking for that if you want to have a pandemic i'm looking for some bodies

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that down out in the street yeah that to me there's there's no one who was at the cafeteria based

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down in the soup yeah everyone was dying in a hospital this is very different than other

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diseases or or sudden health you know tragedies which is a big clue if many of these excess

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deaths were in hospitals well and if they didn't happen outside of the hospital right i think

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it's legitimately it's legitimate the question just how much of this pandemic was driven by

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protocols by erroneous interpretation of tests by medicines which were approved that shouldn't

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have been based upon bad data used when they shouldn't have been taking away a doctor's ability to

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you know exercise their own discretion and this is all even before

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you know people you know suicide rates were up because of isolation um drug overdoses were up

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the and now you have the impacts of of the the newer generation of jabby jabs associated with this

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so um revisiting the past a little bit what led to the escalation of fear who participated in that

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and how are the tools used misrepresented misinterpreted

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um is is important i believe anyways uh for uh for hopefully not having this happen again

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um i suspect that uh there's a possibility something like what just happened could happen again i

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think because of the contributions of j and um you know a small army of other people i think the

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odds of that are going lower every day um i'm proud to say but uh it's anyways that i i yield

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for the moment it's important to um round that off with uh with a mention that in the uk how they

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did it was with medazalam um there were lots of old people in the uk that were given medazalam

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way over the normal dose and basically killed with it um remdesivir played that role here a

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lot of people have in my mind seemed to fail to draw the the parallel between azt and remdesivir

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but i do think that there's something there um in the sense of trying to force a chemotherapy drug

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onto people with AIDS and it probably made most of them much sicker than they would have been if

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they hadn't been put on a chemotherapy drug and all of those symptoms were blamed on AIDS

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and that's not any different than when they gave remdesivir to people in the hospital and they had

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kidney failure and liquid filling up in their lungs and they blamed that on covid when they

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knew that that was a side effect of being on remdesivir for longer than five days so the other

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thing that i'd like to mention is that we've been mark and i have been kind of playing tennis with

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old um videos from people that we've streamed with or listened to or think are are important

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we've been going back to see what they were saying as early as we can and one of the surprising

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things that we found Robert Malone saying in 2021 was that dexamethasone is something that

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you can give to covid patients and really rev it up um and so you have to kind of add that to a list

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of substances that was being used and so is it something that could exacerbate things and was

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it part of the protocol and helping to exacerbate things um all of these things need to be

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need to be added together in an equation much more like one would solve a crime rather than

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trying to you know i use this analogy the other day when you call 911 you don't have to already

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know what the motivation of the person who's breaking into your house is and whether or not he's

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he's motivated by money or whether he's a drug dealer or whatever you don't need to know all

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that all you need to know is somebody's breaking your house and if we're saying that a bunch of

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people are lying about this virus in order to usurp our rights and change the way that they

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they govern us forever and i don't know if we need to know all the details of how they done it and

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in fact they could have done it differently in different places and they would be smart to have

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done it that way. I think you know what i've been trying to do tonight is to give a

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a background for people that are fairly new to this that can see fairly easily through a lot of the

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BS that we've been fed and to start with Snohomish County man to to look at the infectious clones

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and to recognize what what Jay's been emphasizing tonight about how these RNA viruses are by nature

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if emerald that they they can't travel around the world in exactly the same form they can't even

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cross the room in exactly the same form and that's the way it is that's biology.

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Now we have a tremendous collateral damage from either the disease or the the jabbie jabs as Mark

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calls them and i think it's more has to do with the jabbie jabs and we we notice the cancer statistics

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are going very very bad they're looking really bad especially with young people. You guys know

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i have cancer and what happened to me i never took any of the jabs i never took any uh i

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i my wife never took any of the jabs we lived to just the two of us so neither one of us had

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anything like the covid that some of our neighbors had but she visited some neighbors and some

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relatives in california in february and came back uh and uh said oh they all had uh covid and

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she started feeling like she had a two and then she she did she got sick and then i got sick

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with the very same thing and uh it was more than a flu it was this was not you know this was not

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your average you know uh 20 years ago flu uh it did have that lingering time you know three

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four weeks where you just don't feel like you can do anything um but the other reasons that i think

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it really probably was generated either from the original covid or whatever variant it's at by now

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but i think more likely that it's somebody that that she was traveling with that had got it

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not not necessarily from the original uh infectious clone but and and the way that i would put it is

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is is it possible that in the jabs they've got stuff that gives you the same thing that snow

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hamish county man came down with you know back in 2019 that it that it gives you that that illness

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as a kind of in other words is there an infectious clone in the jab

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oh well i mean if you want that that's uh i mean the jab is is RNA the the jab is the RNA in the

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best case scenario it's supposed to code for a viral protein so it is it is one of 31 proteins

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it's not as bad as an infectious clone of the RNA would be in theory but on the other hand

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you're not injecting that infectious clone you would inhale it in theory um again i want to emphasize

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that the infectious clone for people who are just following mark and i for the first time and just

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meeting me for the first time the infectious clone is a methodology by which something which is very

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intractable in nature and in the laboratory can be converted to a pure and quantity that can be

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studied and shared with people um it's it's often the way we do it with biology in the laboratory

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another great example is that all of the laboratory work i keep referring like this because the

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University of Pittsburgh is over there um all of the laboratory work that's done in in monkeys

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i'm sorry mice is done in inbred mice mice that have been bred to themselves brother to sister

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brother to sister brother to sister until they are so genetically identical that they can be

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studied as one animal model because if you use outbred wild mice some of them will be smart

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some of them will be dumb some of them will get sick some of them won't some of them will respond

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well some of them won't some of them will be susceptible to your drugs some of them won't

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but if you have a very genetically pure inbred mouse strain all of the animals reactions to

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different drugs or different treatments will be much more similar and we do this in science as

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part of this reductionist manner of probing the universe but that reductionist manner of probing

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the universe has become so reduced that it no longer adequately recapitulates the complexity

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we're trying to understand and in this scenario um with these RNA viruses there's a tremendous

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complexity out there in the wild that at our best when we try to get a hold of it in the laboratory

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we make a DNA version of it we make it very pure and then we start with that even though

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we know that that does not exist out there at all and we use this to scare everybody that this is

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the pandemic potential but it really is this is how they could do it they could get this sequence

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in every person in the world if they made enough of it and then sold the right water bottles to

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everybody everybody drinking and everybody would be PCR positive if they just like if they wanted

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to paint everybody blue all they need to do is make enough blue paint you wouldn't that's all they

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need to do and if you say that oh wait somebody spilled blue paint out in my backyard and before

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you know it all the houses in the world are going to be blue everybody be like well how the hell's

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that good that's stupid that's not how paint works but that's what they're saying with RNA

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they're saying that somebody spilled some RNA out there and now the whole world's going to have it

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and that's just not possible

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I hope I can get you guys back I want to talk more about the jabs themselves and you know again to

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get back to the collateral damage that they they cause as well as Sarem Desivir and

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Marcus has been working with victims and with the survivors and and people that have you know

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and he himself and his family touched by this crazy so-called medical system and the disasters

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that that have followed since 2019 they just keep compounding upon one another I guess for

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tonight I'm really grateful for you both to share this time with me and to try to but I want what

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I'm really trying to do guys is to try to get your message out better and and I want you to feel

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successful that's great that that you guys are starting to feel like you're maybe maybe can stop

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them from doing the next time and you know we never know the effect of what we do we send it

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out into the universe and maybe this show maybe another show another day will be the trick that

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people say oh you know what this really was a a big conspiracy and now we're going to take names

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and kick some butt and and get past it because we got we got to get past it got to get back to

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being good a good good old USA you know the country that we all were taught to love as children we

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should be that country and you guys are helping me and helping everybody else to get back on track

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thank you very much for tonight thank you Jay thank you Mark thank you guys like to add

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all I'll say is I think that country is still alive and well and I think that future is still

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there it's alive in here and I wouldn't judge someone's patriotism by the size of the flag behind

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them trust me I think I think you both of you are I consider to be look mine mine is very small and

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understated you know it's just enough you know it doesn't need to whack you over the head and

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suffocate you you know is but anyways I'm and you know what even if everything was perfect

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everything was perfect we would still have to live this way in order to keep it that way so

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I view it as a as art our challenge and our responsibility one way or the other and thank you

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guys for being on this mission with me awesome said oh well said Mark thank you very much for

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having me I'll be back anytime you need well I'm looking forward to it then thank you very

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very much JJ koui and mark kulak oocytonic live and JJ you find him on twitch at giga ohm

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biological

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well done gentlemen well done perfect do we have to keep the window open and tell things to upload

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or anything like that no it's good we're good hopefully you appreciated the uh uh every once

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a while look we're all feeling stressed but uh you know sometimes you just have to will the optimism

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into being you know uh and uh so thank you for letting me say those words

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and the clubs and the you know hey man life no well maybe the countries in better shape than we

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think but we're all just being fed a PCR test of America is dead well it is it really is you

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know you think of it and they're trying to get us to give up trying to get us to give up before

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it we should be maybe I don't know

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you

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you

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sorry about that so I'll start that over I uh I apologize for not having a regular stream tonight

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I know that I would normally do that but this is still it's streaming and it's on my channel and

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is and I wanted you to go over to rumble and watch it so hopefully some of you did go over to rumble

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and watch it um anyway thank you very much for being here um and I definitely gonna be here tomorrow

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because we're keeping this street going I think this is 21 days in a row now anyway who's counting

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we're just not gonna stop thanks for joining me see you tomorrow night

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