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I'll be traveling through the road

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Come you master the wall

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You were the man to be gone

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You were built with death planes

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You were that built on a mountain

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You would hide behind walls

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You would hide behind death

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I just want you to know I can see you through your mans

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I want you to know I can see you through your mans

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You had never done nothing

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But now to destroy

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You bled him in my world

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Like he's your inner toy

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You were gone in my head

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And you hide from my heart

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And you tell him from my past

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And you tell him from my past

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And you tell him from my past

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And you tell him from my past

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You're the man to be gone

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You're the man to be gone

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Like dreams of old you lie and they see

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Whoa, walk everyone you want me to believe

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But I see you through your eyes

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And I see you through your brain

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Like I see you through the water

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And the rock near my train

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Like I see you through the water

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And the rock near my train

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You're the passing road train

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Is for the others to fire

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And you sit back and watch while my death

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Count you tired

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You hide in your mansion

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While the young people bleed

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So knock your bodies away

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You're the man to the world

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You're the man to the world

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And then masters the war, wage war

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By way of deception

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Thought criminals wage peace by way of the truth

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Good morning y'all

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I'm Stephen Douglas Whitener

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And I just wanted

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To get that in

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I'm really honored

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To be here

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And I am excited

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About the guest I have

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I have mentioned

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This gentleman's work

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Before a paraphrase

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I won't say quoted

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I've tried to paraphrase

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What he's had to say

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I respect people

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Who have

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You know, blown the whistle

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Because that just

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It cost me

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And it cost you to tell the

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Truth sometimes

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And this gentleman

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I wanted to

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He's a very smart guy

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JJ, let me let you

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Give your introduction

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To tell folks

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Who you are

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Gig Am biological

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Good morning

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Steven, thank you very

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Much for having me on

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I'm not normally talking

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This so early

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So I really appreciate

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You getting me

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Up and going

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A lot of times for me

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The hard thing is to

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Hit the go button

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And go live

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And so it's very nice

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To have an excuse

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To be up so early

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And doing it

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My introduction can be

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Very long

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But I'll try to make it

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As short as possible

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I'm a Wisconsin boy

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Who moved to the big city

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Of Chicago to go to

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University

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And I lived in

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Chicago

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Hold on one second

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You need a problem there

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No, I can't

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I'm sorry

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I'm alive

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You gotta go out

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Thank you though, honey

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Shut the door

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I got my blood

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Yeah, exactly

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It's okay

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RBN is listed

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Is used to that

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With me

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It sounded like someone

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Was chewing horses

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One day

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That's funny

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So I am a

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Wisconsin boy

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I moved to Chicago

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For university

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And then I spent

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A number of years

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In Chicago

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As a young man

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Kind of treading water

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Trying to figure out

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What I wanted to do

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I went to university

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With the attention

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Of going right to med school

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And becoming a big important

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Doctor

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And then I got waitlisted

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For a few years

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In a row

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And at first I started

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Teaching high school

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As a way of treading water

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And then that pay

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Isn't very good

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So I started bartending

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At night

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And that pay is

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Actually really good

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And a couple of years

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In a row

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I decided just to bartend

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And that pay is

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Actually really good

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So I decided

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Just to bartend

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And that

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I don't know

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If that was the right thing

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For me to do at the

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Time from

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Anyone else's

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Perspective, but I think

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From a sort of

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Growing up

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Young man's perspective

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It was really good for me

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To kind of hit a soft rock

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Bottom with

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Bartending and getting

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Pretty cocky about

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How the money was coming in

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And who's money it was

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by giving the keys to the wrong person and just casually taking a day off and I got

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fired.

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And it's pretty hard in retrospect to come upon a bar gig like I had where I was working

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three nights a week and making enough money and more.

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And so finding another gig like that in Chicago wasn't easy and I was forced to kind of panic

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and I got a technician job at the University of Chicago that reminded me that I had been

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a biologist since I was a little kid and that I needed to do something more than mixed

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drinks and entertain people.

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And so I started working with this guy at the University of Chicago who taught me a couple

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techniques that allowed me to move to the Netherlands, do my PhD in the Netherlands,

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meet my wife in Amsterdam and then move together with her to Norway where I continued my training

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in a laboratory there in Toronto.

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And we had a couple boys in Norway and then we moved back to the Netherlands with every

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intention of getting tenure there and settling down in the Netherlands where her family is.

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And I didn't get tenure, I mean I got some EU money in my first couple years there and

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then I just couldn't get anything to work sustainably.

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And so after four years in the Netherlands we had no choice really because my wife had

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also gotten a PhD in plant biology but we did not pursue her career, she didn't really

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enjoy it, she just finished her degree to finish it.

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And so we moved to America because that's where I had my previous, my whole life was

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here and we moved to the University of Pittsburgh.

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I'd never lived or been to Pittsburgh before I flew here and it's a beautiful little town

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with lots of trees and hills and water and so from the air it was just like, wow, Pittsburgh

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is like this.

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I have to admit.

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I'm up in Wisconsin, I'm a Packer fan and when I was a child the Steelers were winning

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the Super Bowls and everybody hated Lin Swan and Jerry Bradshaw.

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So I never liked Pittsburgh, I never wanted to like Pittsburgh and so coming here was

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a little weird because I also didn't like the Pirates because I'm a Cubs fan.

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So it was a real strange place to be so attracted to.

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I had a couple of three good years at the University of Pittsburgh trying to keep my

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career going and when the pandemic broke out I was already working on serendipitously a

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bike ride series where I was doing Journal Club for neurobiologists on my bicycle, on

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my way back or on my way to work and I had an electric assist bike so it allows you to

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get exercise but still cover like 15 or 20 miles without killing yourself.

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And so I could talk on my bike while I was riding and it was a really cool little show

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that when the pandemic broke out I just did a couple bike rides where I did a coronavirus

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biology review and at some moment in 2020 I got an email from the administrative offices

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of the media, the media department of the hospital that is attached to the University

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of Pittsburgh.

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It would be the UPMC medical system and she said that the Pittsburgh Gazette had contacted

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me for an interview but they informed the Pittsburgh Gazette that my expertise was not

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virology and I was not to speak to them even if they contacted me directly.

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They said they saw my YouTube channel and they said okay at the end of this email with

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a question mark which I found bizarre and a few months later my immediate supervisor

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asked me not to come in anymore because I wasn't getting my temperature taken and

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I wasn't putting a sticker on my ID every day and I was also getting arguments with

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people about whether you could read about legitimate science in the New York Times or

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not.

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Anyway, it just so happens that the University of Pittsburgh had just extended my contract

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in July when they sent me home in October so that meant I had like eight months.

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And so during that eight months I just kept teaching immunology online and that got me

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enough followers to keep doing it for the whole year.

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And then early in 2022 I got a phone call from some guy by the name of Robert F. Kennedy

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Jr. and he asked me to help consult on a book that he released a couple months ago called

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the Wuhan cover up and some of the biology that I teach every night is definitely in

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that book and there's some quotes in there from me which is kind of fun.

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And then for a brief period of time for about six months after the book I worked for Children's

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Health Defense and that's the non-profit that Bobby used to be the spokesperson for.

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And that didn't really work out apparently because what I do on my stream is still too

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raw and when I bumped into the management a number of times about what I was saying and

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eventually to my own surprise to be quite honest my whole family was taken by surprise

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by it on January 4th they just decided to lay me off.

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So we're back again shaking a can on the internet but we have a good little core of

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followers and I know from my previous years of doing this that I think it's pretty important

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so we're going to try and keep it going.

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I apologize for that extremely long introduction but it is kind of a it's kind of an interesting

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I think that was it's so it's so serendipitous that I find myself here.

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Yes you definitely qualify as a thought criminal sir I mean to interrupt you but that definitely

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established your bona fides there you know it's I've learned from you too I look the

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listeners may be aware of some of the things that you talk about but you you bring it together

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the word transfection that you use I think needs to be used more we need to spread a

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lot of this information far and wide you know RBN listeners spread RBN too but you

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know I see how you say that the battle is for our kids let me let you get back to that

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because what you have to say is even more important than than that but I'm glad you

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did that because you know I don't know that everybody would would know you know I do believe

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what you say in a sincere okay I've not met you personally as I have some of my guests

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and all but I have followed you and do trust what you say to be sincere.

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Well I mean that's really I really appreciate that but I also want to emphasize to everybody

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that's listening that one of the core messages that I try to put out every day is that we

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all as adults have to take responsibility for learning this it can't be something where

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you know we have a friend that knows about used cars and so we're just going to rely

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on our friend to help us buy a used car or whatever we've got to really learn this biology

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ourselves because it is who we are and it is who our kids are and if we don't impart

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this understanding of what is sacred to our children then they're going to grow up believing

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whatever the TV and social media which is even worse tells them and that's I think the other

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transition point that I'm you know as a biologist it seems kind of weird to emphasize this all

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the time but we are you and I I think I'm 52 we are a generation that can understand

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the transition that we're at because we grew up at a time where kids would be bored and

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then get in trouble outside we were we were a generation that the solution was get out

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of the house don't come back until dinner and and that that kind of growing up with

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boredom that you yourself are responsible for filling something that I see in my kids

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all the time they don't experience it because they have a number of place fillers that are

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that are ready and waiting so that they never have that problem and when we were kids that

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would have been like daydreaming watching TV but it's much worse now because they're

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they're putting short sometimes malevolent thoughts in their heads and that includes

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these ideas about scary biological phenomenon that probably don't exist in order to to govern

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the globe and so my my main message and I think that's what you're trying to get me

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to spit out here is that as a biologist I walked into the pandemic thinking that vaccinations

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in general were a good idea and that maybe the United States applied some of these vaccinations

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too early or too often but I had not yet evolved my thinking to the stage where I was considering

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the possibility that they could just be wholly unnecessary or that they are being applied

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in a criminally negligent way but when the pandemic came around and they started saying

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that they were going to use this technology called transfection to immunize old people

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I immediately saw that they were also eventually going to they were thinking that they were

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going to immunize everybody this way had started to really upset me because I have been using

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transfection for between 10 and 15 years in my own work on mice I understand what it's

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meant to do but I also understand that there are tremendous limitations to trying to do

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these kinds of things in a living system and so unlike all the work that I've ever done

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where part of the built-in plan is to sacrifice the animal in order to accurately describe

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the autonomy of the locations that you recorded from or the cells that you modified we don't

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plan to do any of those things with an old person or a young person that we transfect

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we want them to live a long healthy life and that's not something that anybody in my neck

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of the woods when using transfection ever had as an expectation you don't expect a mouse

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that you've transfected in their brain to live a long and healthy life you don't expect

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to be able to transfect a monkey multiple times in its life and therefore I had to live

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the long and healthy life that's not a built-in part of any experiment so the idea that suddenly

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at 2020 they had Bill Gates on the PBS NewsHour telling us that this new kind of vaccine where

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they toss in some RNA is actually really cool because then your body becomes the vaccine

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factory and that spectacular combination of words is the most insidious lie I've heard

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in my lifetime and that that idea it needs to be dispelled we can't have any college

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children college young adults regurgitating this idea in five years because if they are

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we will be and that I really think is the the heart of the heart of the heart of these

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kids these young adults don't understand what they were coerced into doing and how biologically

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dissimilar it is to previous vaccinations which in and of themselves were already worthy

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of scrutiny for the last ten years ask any autism mom or dad and so we are in trick we

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are at a situation where we are arguing about the most recent version of a lie and we're

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even being tricked into not connecting this recent version of the lie with the previous

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how's that we're coming up on the first break that was terrific JJ we'll be right back

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Welcome back y'all you're listening to thought crime live on republic broadcasting network

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and i'm joined by Jonathan kooie jj kooie of giga arm biological.com and you know as a kid i

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wanted to chemistry set when i was six years old i remember when i looked at science as to something

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that would elucidate what was the sacred biology now assistant frankenstein since then you know

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when i the more i learned it just let me let you go back to you i just relate so much to what you

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you say sir well uh that's that's very nice um i guess you just kind of triggered in me something

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i just did a a show yesterday which i think um can bring a bigger picture idea to the forefront

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a little bit um in terms of how they they've convinced these people to participate in this

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and one of the things that i think needs to be made clear to the again we're talking to college

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age kids we're talking to young kids um who's whose teachers in their schools are probably a

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little confused about this as well but we need everybody to understand that that artificial

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intelligence is being hyped as something with potential very much in the same way that genetic

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therapies were hyped in the 80s um there's a really interesting sort of anecdote that i can

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tell you of a guy by the name of robert malone um who was cutting his teeth in some of the most

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important virology labs and surrounded by some of the most important virologists in the late 70s

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early 80s um in his in his uh graduate school work and during his grad school work um he had the

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choice of working with some of the the at the time preeminent biologists from from muri gardener

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to uh robert gallo to even uh to somebody like um david baltimore and so all of these you know

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grandfathers of modern virology um circulating as a postdoc then um convinced him that in 10 or 15

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years that virology was going to progress at such a pace and our understanding of the genome was

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going to progress at such a pace that there would be genealogists or geneticists that were using

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retroviruses to cure childhood diseases in every local hospital in the nation in a few years

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and so what we need to understand as adults that we can partake or impart on our children

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is that these stories of what was about to happen when we understood the genome better

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or when we had faster computers or when we collected enough data that we were finally going to be

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able to crack the code so to speak they've used that phrase a lot to to imply that we're going to be

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able to see the blueprints and the instruction manual of life and once we do that we won't need

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god anymore or god will be irrelevant or we'll finally have proven that god doesn't exist because

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we will have attained this transhuman mastery of ourselves this story Steve has been told for

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decades especially in secret meetings and in in meetings of secret societies and meetings of

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of really rich people at at very expensive dinners talking about their plans for how they're going to

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to govern the world this mythology about how eventually if we collect enough data there will

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be enough numbers enough measurements that an AI will be able to take that data and convert it

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into understanding that has been sort of belied by the the the progress of understanding chess

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versus understanding the Chinese game go versus understanding now the example that I used yesterday

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in my show was the the success or lack of success of the autopilot in Tesla and one of the things that

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I think is now becoming more and more especially obvious with regard to Elon Musk and some of the

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things that he claims is very similar to how all of those virologists bamboozled Robert Malone when

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he was a young guy so long ago into believing that genetic technologies were going to evolve at light

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speed and that within 10 years there would be a geneticist that could fix childhood diseases

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using retroviruses they are bamboozling us into believing that eventually with enough cores or

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with enough time or with enough data artificial intelligence is going to be able to do things that

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heretofore were considered impossible or at least borderline magic and I really can't emphasize

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enough how even if this is a future possibility we are not we are not scratching that surface of

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that future possibility yet and that these people are actually are actually enchanting our children

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with this idea that AI is so powerful you might as well go limp AI is so amazing that you might

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as well forget about it that everything that you are going to do and learn in the future is going

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to be better than better than better by AI so there's no reason for you to learn to draw there's

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no reason for you to learn to paint there's no reason for you to make music there's no reason

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for you to be creative you have been relegated to to basically be right hey we'll be right back

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it is dr cooey though isn't it john i mean i just have to say that i wanted to listen to

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yeah you are you're dr cooey too right i mean you you you're a research scientist i i think

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you might be a humble one that's a rare thing um i am uh phd i don't say doctor because i feel

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like a lot of people get confused and i think it's better if you're a phd to just say mister and uh

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not not confuse anyone you know like like uh like uh mrs. Biden is also a phd but she calls

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herself dr. Biden all the time and i feel like that's really just ingenious she confuses everybody

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with that but you can i respect it yes sir i wanted to let the listeners know that uh yes sir go ahead

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yeah you can look me up on pub med though um and you can find that i've been a a legitimate

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academy magician i usually call them nowadays um for a very long time i was uh i was going for

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ten year i wanted to be a professor um that was my my goal and i did really enjoy that job i do

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really enjoy it because as a as a professor as a research professor one of the things that's

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that's involved in that is having apprentices and the the grad students that come work with you

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they call them grad students but what they really are are apprentices and you're teaching them

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basically to to learn how to write grants learn how to formulate experiments that get funded and

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learn how to do the experiments that get funded now i could do the experiments and other people

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could write but i couldn't combine those two and so that's why i didn't really succeed but

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part of the reason why i i think i didn't succeed is because i didn't really understand how the

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sausage was made and the way the sausage is made is how you can extend the answering of the same

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question over several years or several projects and it's not to say that these people do it with

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with uh disingenuous or malevolent ideas in mind but they've come to understand that's how the

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system works the the grant proposal nich system is not designed to solve problems and then move

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on it's designed to sort of explore a a possibility space and even when the possibility space is now

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been exhausted oftentimes the the funding mechanism is such is set up in such a way that all of the

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people that are that are dependent on that funding mechanism are unwilling to admit that the question

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has been answered and so the funding will not be removed from them because it requires the fund

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in order the funding for the funding to move on those people have to agree collectively that

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that question has been answered and so you get this incredible inertia in academia where the same

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question gets asked many many times by many many people and you might think that that results in

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thoroughness but in a malevolent system where you have pharma pharmaceutical companies and other

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weaponized piles of money influencing that you can get a lot of dead space in academia where the

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same bad ideas are pursued for decades and that's where you get statins that's where you get all

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these bad cancer treatments that's where you get billions of dollars thrown into the wind when

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we know that there are there are certain good ideas that should be pursued but then you'd have

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billions of dollars in lots of people out of work or lots of people having to shift their whole

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paradigm and that might even include the money that they're making with the products that they

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sell and so this is really it's really a spectacular time because it took me getting kicked out of

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that moving truck where I was like but I really like my job and I'm really good at it why would

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you throw me out and I just couldn't understand it I had it took me a long time to realize that

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I was not I was never going to be let back in I really thought at some point they were going to

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come around and they were going to see I was right and I would be back to neurobiology and

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everything would be great and I it took me a long time to accept that what I was doing was going to

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permanently ostracize me and it's probably how you felt all those years ago when you spoke out that

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you thought you were doing the right thing and that people would listen and that these problems

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would get fixed and instead it's like I know and in fact it's worse than that you have you have

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essentially admitted that you will not play and it's since you're not going to play you got to go

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and so that's where I thought I've been there in a way just but that was you know with the

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Aquatec thing but it just I it beat me down for so many years it's only when I started to talk back

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again to stand up that I started to change myself a little bit that's that's where the real battle

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took place and like I think that the most important battle after that is just as you were pointing

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out with our kids you talk of college age kids too but I mean public school public indoctrination

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systems are just there that's weaponized to that that's that's such a trauma based mind control

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thing they were doing there with the masks and and it looks like they look like little prisons now

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to me when I got when I was going it just that that's a different subject but

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let me you said that you followed the way this illusion of consensus was created to sell that a

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pathogen made its way around and around the world and that's not true that just the data

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doesn't back that up at all and you want to just start with there because people if anybody's I

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hear people saying well I tested positive for this and then it's like oh I just I have to step

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away from that and not even pay any attention to and those tests are just worthless to me why

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I don't care what that's rapid covid test says who you know that that's irrelevant to me to me

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that's a weapon used against us and I just don't have anything to do with it but what would you say

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to somebody who is still in that paradigm how would you yeah how would you go about that um so that's

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a tough one right you're describing the deepest of the deep people and that that we have to

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realize that that before too long we're we're gonna have to just do things anyway I'm not

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saying we leave them behind but some people are gonna be unrescuable but from that perspective

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one of the best places to start that sometimes wakes people up is to ask them

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what do you think would have happened if we would have rolled out all of these tests in 2018 what

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would we have found nothing and just let this leave it there for a second just let them think

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about the possibility that there were at at some point in 2021 there were 254 different emergency

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use authorized testing diagnostic products in America alone now how many of those products were

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brought to market rushed how many of them were brought to market without proper quality control

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how many were brought to market without proper testing we don't know because all of those and

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I mean literally all of those products are gone they're not there you can't find an example of

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them to look and see and test again to see if those were really good products or that that company

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was doing what they were doing there were so many instant startup companies that bought molecular

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biological tools ordered the reagents and purported to be doing weekly testing for police departments

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in places all around the United States and all of those companies are gone they're gone

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the companies that made millions of dollars testing police officers every day in California

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those companies are gone so we can't look at what amplicons they amplified what primers they used

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what what machines they worked on we don't even know if their protocols are still on a piece of

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paper somewhere and they're all gone and so what you need to ask those people to get them started

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is to think what would have happened if this large group of products and equipment and machines

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was rolled out in 2018 and all of these places at the same time and they started testing do you

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actually believe they would have found nothing until October of 2019 and that you would have

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been able to chart its accurate spread from Wuhan all around the world because that's what they

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want you to believe and there is no precedence in biological history for a molecule of RNA

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to be able to high fidelity copy itself for five years sustained it's never even come close

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and so if you can point out that what we are essentially doing is taking lots of pictures

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that we never took before and claiming that look every time I take a picture in my backyard I see

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a cardinal you have no pictures from 2018 and so you claim that the cardinals just came

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and they're infesting your backyard but you if you had pictures from 2018 you would see

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that the cardinals were there too and so we've got the big picture is trying to make people

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understand that the possibility is endless because we were we've gone from not measuring anything

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to having a million thermometers in every in every location in the world and then claiming

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there's global warming we have no measurements from before 2020 so how can you put this into context

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especially when you're taking the test seriously even when you don't have symptoms that's where

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you know this all spiraled out of control was the idea that we could track this

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this RNA even when symptoms weren't present these tests were were purported to be meaningful

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and so if you combine these four or five observations that there were 254 at the maximum sometime

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different diagnostics that are all gone now and that we don't have any control data from

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pre pandemic to know whether any of these diagnostics would have brought the same signal then

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and so therefore the idea that this is just the evidence that we need to understand that there

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is a phenomenon happening now that started but wasn't happening in 2019 is is just an absolutely

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false dichotomy that we cannot accept it's not either or it is that it could have always been

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there or a signal that was there could be confounded as as this agent and and it's so much safer

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for the people that run the show for it to be a giant pile of of misleading statements and

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and outright lies then it is to be some combination of cover-up and bio-weapon

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yeah it's just about deception and as you pointed out the protocols were what caused the uh uh uh

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well you didn't point out here but you have that the protocols was what spiked the mortality and

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that there was no spread from country to country that showed up that with the it just it the only

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thing there was a pandemic of was fear and compliance that that's the way it looks like to me as you

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just said you know that's the before we go to break i think it's coming soon um the idea that

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what they did was have us focus on the wrong questions in 2020 and 2021 so the you and i wouldn't

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notice that they were killing people with ventilators we wouldn't notice that they were killing people

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with with anesthesia on on and revdesivir we wouldn't notice that they were they were killing people

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in old folks homes and we would be thrown these numbers out of context and the confusion and

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uncertainty and doubt that those numbers and their the illusion of consensus on tv and social media

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about what those numbers meant made us very very unlikely to question the basis for what they were

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saying and the basis for their projections and it took us because of the effectiveness of this

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operation and getting us to solve the mystery of the novel virus and whether they were lying about

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it being a lab leak or a natural virus got us to avoid answering asking the question of do we really

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have something here or not and that was what it was it was panicking us into asking the wrong

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questions for three years and if we asked the right questions in 2020 like some of these people were

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we would have avoided this mess entirely i think it's clear that this was a military operation

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it absolutely war crime committed against every person on the planet it this depopulation agenda

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is part of it but it's also about creating that new control grid with the central bank digital

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currency the vaccine passport the the proximity sensors with this little nsa low jack i have in

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my hand i call it you know this thing is a weapons platform i talk about that a lot too and

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it just that's part of the whole thing is um part of a whole you know you have to they're bringing

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this together as a control grid it's not one thing or another and that that part's really scary i

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really appreciate you coming on we don't have a break until a couple of minutes but you guys next

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hour if you have questions for JJ you could call 512-248-8252 that's 512-248-8252

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i wanted to let your chat know that too so next hour we'll take some callers and

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you just mentioned red wine steam too how he was put in place and a lot of other people were put

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in place to create this this thing and i saw something with him the other day and it uh

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would you want to you want to speak about that what the you said that the fair and cleavage

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site and all that yes sir go ahead sure so what i think um one of the things that people are

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forgetting or some of the things that are easy to forget if you weren't involved in it like i was

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from the very beginning is that in 2020 there were a certain parts of this biological narrative

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that were emphasized by everyone and some of the people that were emphasizing it early had no

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business knowing it and this this comes down to this fear and cleavage site which is essentially

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an enzymatic cleavage site which was purported to be an unnatural signature in the spike protein

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of the original virus and so here you have a bunch of people in the backwoods of the internet that

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are already aware of the spike protein of coronavirus is being the immunogenic protein and already

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aware that a fear and cleavage site is dangerous and some of the people that were made aware of

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this were had to have been planted because in the end the fear and cleavage site wasn't tracked

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they didn't wait for the cleavage site to disappear and then announced that the fear and cleavage

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site had gone away in in variant v and so now it was much safer they started this whole narrative

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in 2020 with the idea that the fear and cleavage site and we've heard this just recently from the

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us right to know story that the fear and cleavage site is what allowed the virus to become the most

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infectious virus in a hundred years but then if it's such an important aspect of the virulence

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and the infectivity of the virus why weren't we tracking the presence of the fear and cleavage

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site for the entire pandemic and we were sequencing it we were sequencing the whole virus but nobody

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ever talked about whether the fear and cleavage site was changing or disappearing or whether some

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variants still had it and others didn't and this is a key key thing to see that we were encouraged

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to argue about that for a year and a half and in reality it was never meaningful and in fact

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what we should have been arguing about is should we be using remdesivir on old people

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should we be giving these people antibiotics or not should we be using steroids or not

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because instead they had a protocol and if you declared people if you declared that people were

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covid then you were completely off the hook for any malpractice and you could do whatever you

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want as long as it was on the cdc protocol it's really frightening um that that's that's the deal

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with the protocols is they they distracted us so that we wouldn't notice that they were creating

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these mass casualty events that they could misconstrue us we'll be right back folks uh yeah thanks very

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broadcasting network dot o rg and let me turn it back over to you jj you got interrupted there

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we were talking about whether this thing even it really was it ever really sequence does it even

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you know that it was all a tool of control and and manipulation i believe

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uh yeah thanks um the the two things that we talked about in the previous breaks one was

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just the misrepresentation of of transfection as a methodology that might be useful in healthy

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humans and the other one was talking about the misleading sort of exaggeration of the

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the power of ai and what ai really is versus what it isn't um i think one of the things to combine

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those two ideas together would be to make people realize that transfection which is this

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general term which describes the use of dna or rna to express a protein in anywhere so if you use

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it in a cell culture it's transfection if you use rna or dna to express a protein in a in a mouse

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it's transfection if you do it with injection into a plant it's transfection and so this is a

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very general term that's been around for a long time and there's lots of companies that have had

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various products called transfection agents that have been like lip effectamine or gold particles

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or you can even use electricity to do it so the idea of applying transfection to usefully augment

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the human genome or the human the human animal is something that they have seen as a coming

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technology for many many years but they've also known that there's no way to usefully start to

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understand how to employ this methodology by by doing proxy studies in in mice or in monkeys

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and the reason why those don't work is because the the complications that that that are a mouse

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or the complications that are a monkey and the the complex sort of pattern integrity

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that those animals are they are sufficiently specific and sufficiently different from our own

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that although we can learn general principles about how these biological systems work by

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studying those animals what we learn from monkeys and mice as we get more sophisticated becomes

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ever more specific for mice and monkeys and ever more non relevant for our own biology and they

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have known this for decades Steve so one of the things they need to do is to to transform the way

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our children think about their own sovereignty over their bodies so that they accept the fact

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that if we're going to get to this next stage of medicine which is personalized medicine

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you're going to have to accept that we don't test things in randomized control trials anymore we

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test things on you and so this is really part of the inversion that was going on right now was

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trying to invert the idea that you have the choice no now we're telling you what you have to do

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and this inversion is not for us they knew that we were going to complain until we were dead

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but it's for our kids and that's really what that's why I keep emphasizing it they want us to

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pass this this compliance onto our kids yes I agree if we I see it in the young ones that are

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always on the screen just like you were talking about how we oh how we were bored as kid oh I

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hear the top of the hour folks we'll be taking your calls all next hour hang on thought criminals

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I believe, you may be, I don't know what to do, I don't know.

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Stand in six foot four weighing in 245 pounds of crown fighting, political science, analyzing broad.

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Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. Patrick Slattery.

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So, Mike, get off of this anti-psychated agenda.

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I'm a born-again traditional Christian, and my favorite possessions are right here on my nightstand

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that would be the King James Bible and my 357 revolver.

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I'd rather be ruled by China men than Jews.

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Cola with the anti-Semitic remarks, right?

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Just because you steal an election and terminate the republic doesn't mean you terminate the people in the republic, because we're still here.

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I'm not taking the vaccine.

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The fucking Bill Gates.

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There was a way forward still on January 6th.

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What needed to be done is to object to every single state.

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The COVID-19 virus was the same.

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The vaccine could very well be the bioweapon.

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