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Good morning CHD. I'm clear duly the cinematographer on the CHD bus and today is Friday September 2nd

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Thanks so much you guys have a great day

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You

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Well good morning CHD and welcome to this episode of doctors and scientists

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I'm so excited for

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Children's health defense new addition Dr. J. Cooey Dr. Jonathan J. Cooey

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We were able to get him as a

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Refugee from the University of Pittsburgh. I don't know if I'm describing that right, but welcome to the show Jay and tell us a little bit about your background

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Hey, thanks very much for having me Brian

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I'm it's a real honor to

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To have joined CHD and to be working with you, and it's really special to be on the show now

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I was a research assistant professor at the University of Pittsburgh in

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2020 and I

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Had trouble following the protocols and I had trouble

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Keeping my cool about certain things when people would tell me to read the New York Times, etc

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And I had a boss or an supervisor that didn't quite think the same way in fact

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War more than one mask at times. Oh my and so at some point

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I was notified by email that they didn't feel comfortable with me coming into the lab anymore

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And so they basically paid me out till the end of my contract and then it wasn't extended and if you know how

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Academia works if you can't get a recommendation from your previous job

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It's gonna be pretty hard to move on I decided to keep my YouTube channel going which I had started originally for

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For a journal club on a bike with with my neuroscience students

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I I just kept going with with teaching immunology and and trying to

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advocate for natural immunity and at some point

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During the the first year of the pandemic I saw Bill Gates

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Give a discussion or or an explanation on a lighted table

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about how they were going to use RNA to

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Make your body into a vaccine factory and it dawned on me in in a moment

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that we were using the same technology in our mice for a lot of our experiments and

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That they had just turned this around and said that they could inject it in people's arms in and this would work fine

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And it it blew me away and so before I was

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Asked not to come in anymore. I had several encounters with people at the University of Pittsburgh who also used

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Transfection in their lab and I tried to ask them, you know, do you understand that their?

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The new vaccines are really just

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Transfections. They're going to

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Transfect people that seems crazy to me and these people were were seemed very confident that they must have figured out how to make it work correctly

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because otherwise they wouldn't do this right and I

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Wasn't convinced and I

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After I was asked not to come in I had eight more months of my salary and so I continued to to work on this stuff and

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Long story short I got enough support from my viewers that I kept going for the whole year of 2021

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And now in

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2022 Bobby called me and asked me to help him

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Robert F Kennedy jr. Excuse me asked me to call

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Asked me to help him with his book the Wuhan book, which is coming out. I don't know sometime this fall

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and

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At the end of that little consultation

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Then now I was lucky enough to have chd all for me a position. So here I am

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Well, thank you so much for that and and I I really you know, you are so good at distilling science down and making it

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Understandable, you know, you started out with your youtube channel

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And you've continued on you've continued on with that breakdown. You've you've used several terms

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Breakdown what you mean by

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Transfection and what what does a transfection vehicle look like when say you're doing some type of genetic modification of mice in the lab?

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Sure, so

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the typical use

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That I would have in the laboratory. What is a real

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Interesting use case that would take an hour to really describe but

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Um, the gist of it is is that you can modify neurons in the brain of a mouse

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By expressing proteins that wouldn't normally be there. Right. Um, and in

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In the case of optogenetics, which is a which is an in vitro and in vivo technique that's used in a lot of mouse and rat experiments

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Um, you can express an algae

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Protein in the neurons and an algae protein is what you think it is. It is a protein from algae

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Um, but this happens to be a protein which

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Um is responsive to blue light in such a way that where whichever neurons are expressing the algal protein

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If you shine blue light on them their activity will increase

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Oh, okay. That basically means that

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You can

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Control neurons in the brain to a certain extent and so you could turn on certain kinds of neurons

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You could turn on certain neurons in certain places and they're actually

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Manipulations of this kind of protein where you can turn neurons off and so neuroscience has been using

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just the

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Just injecting into a location of the brain

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and expressing these proteins and using them as kind of uh

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A kind of a lesion in the sense that if you turn on the blue light and all the neurons in that location turn off

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It's kind of similar to taking that part of the brain out of the equation

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But in the old days you would have to do it by by breaking it or

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Right drawing it and here

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With the expression of an algal protein

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You can take neurons in and out of the equation while the animals alive

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And then sacrifice the animal

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Dissect the brain and really look at what neurons were you turning on and off?

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And you can see that in serial experiments you can start to kind of

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Maybe in a certain controlled experiment start to figure out what certain neurons are doing during certain behaviors. Okay. Now the trick is

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Is that when you transfect these neurons?

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In order for you to go back into the mouse and see these neurons inadequately or accurately rather characterized their anatomical location

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You need them to be present

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In the animal when you sacrifice them and prepare prepare their brain

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But because these neurons are expressing a foreign protein

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Inevitably what will happen is one of two things

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Either the neuron will express too much of this protein and the protein itself will become toxic

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Because

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It draws all of the material away from what should be normal expression of all kinds of other

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proteins during homeostasis the other thing that can happen is that the

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Internal immune system of the brain will just clear that neuron out because it's expressing a foreign protein and it shouldn't be

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Um, what this results in is that in these early experiments

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with transfection

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Anybody that's using it in this case neurobiologists had to learn the window of time

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Where you could still sacrifice the animal and have all of the neurons intact before the immune system clear it or before

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The toxicity of the transfection would take over and that tends to be about

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Six weeks

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and so

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The first thing that I started arguing about in the hallways with some of my

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My fellow faculty members was but what do you think is going to happen?

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If you transfect

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An old lady with a spike protein and it doesn't stay in her arm and it goes throughout her body

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What happens to those cells?

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They're all going to get attacked by the immune system. This can't be a good idea

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and again

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It's just one of these things where some people just hadn't really thought it through and and other people just had this

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real

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sort of

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misplaced trust that somehow, you know, they must have checked and that this would this work out

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um

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And so that's that's the

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The gist of using it in in an animal is the sense that it's a tool with an understanding

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That there's a huge limit

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as to how useful it could be and you're using it as a

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In a way that you you use wood to build the birdhouse and we're not talking about some kind of uh

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We're not talking about augmenting a healthy immune system

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And we're talking about using and using a a set of tools

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To study how a mouse brain works right um and so it's a very different kind of

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It's a very different kind of objective with a very different endpoint and so it was extraordinary to me that they were

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Taking this and calling it a therapeutic that could be applied to healthy humans

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Exactly, you know, I love the way that you broke that down and

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When you're when you're looking at the component of the mRNA vaccine

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And the component of what you would do in transfection. I'm you know, I was older in molecular biology

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And we used to use a substance called gene juice

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um

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And then it's been I think it's been around for a while

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And but it was a liposomal substance that you know, basically

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Seemed a lot like the lipid nanoparticle that was being used in

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You know in essentially in transfection of people

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Are the same components in what you did for genetic engineering? Are they similar to the components in the vaccine?

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So interestingly, it's a great question

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Our components are much closer to the first two vaccines that came out in that we usually use an identifier as carrier

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Oh, okay

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And so that was also at the time if you will recall

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AstraZeneca and johnson and johnson were the first ones that kind of came out and so

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There was even more parallel

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between what they were doing in the uk with

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AstraZeneca

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And our work in the lab, I mean they're the same thing. It was like adenovirus

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25 and you know, we use adenovirus 27 or something it's it was

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Really spectacularly close

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And so it was really easy in my mind to think you know this this can't be

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That and it took a long time brian don't get me wrong. I I was a neuroscientist and

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The neuroscientist, you know, you know a lot of things about a very narrow

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Toolbox of stuff. Oh, sure. Right. All right

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It took me a lot of reading and a lot of time to

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To get to the stage where I was confident enough to talk about this immunology and with

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with the gusto to argue about it

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um

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But in the end it was definitely what needed to be done because there with all of the

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the faculty and at pit that were in the department of neurobiology. I've heard from absolutely no one

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um

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Since I was let go

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So either

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Maybe there's a combination of nobody paying attention or nobody looking into it

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But I find that very hard to believe. I think most of them are still fully on board with the idea that somehow

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This is okay

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You put it in a vial you call it a vaccine and somehow magically

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Then it's not going to do the same thing and these were animals that you were preparing that you you basically

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Were and correct me if I'm wrong you're irreversibly changing in there were neurons

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And so the ultimate trajectory would be you know, you might do some behavioral tests or whatever

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But you were sacrificing the animals and then and then uh, you know doing biopsies of the brains correct correct

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And actually I can give you another anecdotal story that'll kind of bring this into focus

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Um while I was at the university of pittsburgh, I also assisted

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with monkey application

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Okay, um and the reason why this is important for the viewers that don't know

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Monkeys are very different kind of laboratory animal because of the the ethic ethical issues surrounding them

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It might not seem like it formed the perspective of people outside of academic research

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But there is a sort of hierarchy that that academic biologists think about

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And we don't worry too much about the ethics of using trisophila

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Um, we worry a little bit more about the ethics of using mice and we certainly don't want mice to suffer

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um

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On the other hand if a mouse needs to be

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sacrificed in order to look at the anatomy of the brain

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That's cannot considered to be at all some kind of crazy idea

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Um as you go up higher into this higher arcade of animals

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You don't use a monkey

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For anatomy anymore

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You wait until the monkey is all given you 10 years of experiments perhaps and before you're going to do that

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um

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and so in the case of

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of

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Up to genetics in monkeys. It's very important to

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sort of have a monkey that's at the

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The end of its service

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Right where you're already planning. Okay. This is the last experiment. So now we can do this

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and so we did this um in conjunction with another lab there

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and

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against

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Not necessarily against my advice, but in light of my advice where I said you have about six weeks

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And then we really need to

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Sacrifice the animal your anatomy won't be clean

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um, and they went 12

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And basically when we did the anatomy and we made slices of the brain the places where we had

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Hoped to see

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fluorescently labeled neurons right um, we just saw empty

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um, and there was fragments of of

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Of fluorescent material so you can see that that something was there. So the immune system had attacked

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Yeah, well, we can't really tell for sure. It was either that right to die from overexpressing a protein

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Right, right because we're driving it pretty hard. I mean, it's not a

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You know, that may be the one

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Thing that they have they have changed a little bit, but

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you know, basically

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A transfection product is designed to produce as much protein as possible

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Um, it's not some kind of you know, dose thing that they goes really slow over weeks

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It's it's usually optimized for maximum protein production

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And that seems to be what they did here with with the mRNA as well

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And so that means that at some point the

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Be inevitable conclusion is is that it will reach toxic levels because the cell can't

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Process that much extra

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Foreign protein

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Exactly. I had did a previous interview with p.r. Corey and he had indicated

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that um, the experiments that have been done

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Tracing the expression of the spike protein and vaccinated individuals

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Showed that for as long as the duration of the experiment some of the subjects

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We're still expressing spike protein for as long as six months

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Post vaccination and he then he talked about long covid and covid vaccine injury

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Where some just look like they were going to produce spike protein for the rest of their lives

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Is that feasible and how would that work?

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It is it is in theory feasible. I mean that the first part is you know

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How long lived is the RNA?

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You don't really know

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um

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The other part that that gets a little more frightening is whether or not

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There are certain tissues

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In the body which would have a propensity for integration and continued expression which would which would be the

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the

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The worst case scenario that you're thinking of where you really have expression forever

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And that's really the trouble here brian

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we are

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Pretending as though we understand

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How protein expression is orchestrated throughout the body

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And in reality we

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Their only sales pitch is that our body uses RNA to make protein and so it's fine

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But in reality

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How each individual tissue type uses RNA

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And how each individual tissue type expresses

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And and orchestrates their ribosomes

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This is all different and so at the same RNA molecule

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Landing in different tissues could have different results in one tissue

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It might produce almost no protein in another tissue it might produce

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A lot of protein that's unfolded in another tissue it might produce the perfect viral protein

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But produce it for only a minute and it's any number

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of possibilities that

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Have not been adequately understood or or or investigated and instead we've been sold the idea that it's all fine

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Exactly and um when you when you break it down, let me let me ask you a technical question really quickly about the

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genetic modification that you use for mice

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Um, is it always episomal or do you see integration?

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Or is that something you never check we know we would never check

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Um

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No, because the mice are always I mean always sacrifice because you always

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the one

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the the beauty of this

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technique

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Is that you get

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both

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The control of neurons and you can there are advanced ways of doing it so that you can

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Express this algal protein in neurons that have a specific gene

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So that means inhibitory or excitatory neurons, but it even means more

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Um, you can express, you know, only in in basal ganglia

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Intern neurons with somatostatin

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um, and then really

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Mess with them in real time with a light going through the skull

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Um, and then when you do the experiment correctly, you'll get an anatomical

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three-dimensional

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Reconstruction of the neurons that you

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Transpected so

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that

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That is the goal. Um, and in that sense

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integration

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Does it matter? I mean

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As long as they get this beautiful anatomy and uh, the neurons are intact when they when they make uh when they make the sacrifice

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Um

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Yeah, we have it. I don't think many people have looked into it. I don't think anyone's looked into it

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Right, right and well and and exactly you know, but but the thing about doing

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that type of

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Molecular genetics and population dynamics is almost that if something could happen

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It will it will from a statistical perspective

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Now now correct me if i'm wrong. I mean, you know, because I go out on a lemon lot my show

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They're not breeding you understand that right? They're not breeding. It's all uh, yeah

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Right right not breeding but

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But you know if you're if you're providing enough genetic material that you could be

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Transfecting

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Uh, many many cells

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Then the statistical possibility that one gets you know in one of the cells gets integrated

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That that's a possibility and that that could happen

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I'm just looking at this from a standpoint of trying to interpret the fact

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That someone some people that are being measured they're looking at an antibody based assay an antibody for

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uh, an IgG for a spike protein and

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What dr. Kory had said was that they just consistently

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Show that they're producing that particular antibody

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At a sort of a semi-quantitative level that would suggest that they're still producing spike protein

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We were told that that expression was going to be

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Reserve for the upper arm and it was going to last for about two weeks

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No, I mean there is no doubt that that what we were told and what is what is was going to happen was definitely different and

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That was part of my motivation for speaking out. I I knew that

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That that's what happens. Um, I mean in the in the in the neurons in the brain you can even see secondarily infected

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Are transfected neurons in the sense of even when some of the earliest

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Transfected neurons die there are still dimmer less

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Fully expressing neurons that are present and so you can see this

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Sort of time course of the damage that's done just by this over expression of a foreign protein and

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I think that

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more than anything else the

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The the people that are listening need to understand that there's a compounding

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Um, set of dangers here because number one

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If transfection was made in a craft brewery

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master

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class

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Baker style

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The best ingredients the best quality control

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It would still be inappropriate to augment a healthy immune system. Now on top of that

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We have gone from

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Making nanograms on a bench to making kilograms in a factory

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Right and the the quality control that you can do on those kinds of volumes is much different

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Um, and so the potential for the rna to be impure is very high, which means you'll have all kinds of

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fragmented proteins expressed

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Which we don't know what would happen to

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um

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The the newest news is that there's also the dna construct that was used to generate the rna that's still present as a contaminant

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And that's a whole nother

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set of

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of i don't knows

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Um that are definitely not good

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And that could be a problem forever because they've always had this issue of

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Of separating dna from rna. It's never going to be totally perfect

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and then this all

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discards the

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countless other possible contaminants that come from from manufacturing at that scale

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Wow, I mean, you know, it's it's I like I like the way that you've just kind of put this layer upon layer

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Tell me about the

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Types of immune responses that you would see now from from my understanding

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And I I don't know as much about the adenovirus vector vaccines as I do about the messenger rna vaccines

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But from my understanding, um, the spike protein itself is a membrane bound protein

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And so it's it's on it's it's embedded in the membrane of the cell

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And then it is the the business end of it is extracellular. Is that correct?

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Yes, that's correct

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one of the things to keep in mind which which is really important about this this

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Transspection is that

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As you said, it's a membrane bound protein. So the ideal

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Transspection if it works exactly like it's supposed to work on the package exactly like it says in the little cartoon in the fold out thing

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Right then this would be the sequence of the rna

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And the sequence of the rna will be translated into a sequence of the protein, right?

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Right

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You got to remember of the the viewers have to remember that the protein will be folded

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As it moves out of the ribosome and that final folded shape

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Is the functional shape of the spike protein and that's actually really important

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Because when the body makes antibodies, it's making antibodies to the electrostatic shape

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Of the protein in this three-dimensional form

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Right

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Not to epitopes that could be identified on the sequence line

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Of the protein now if every one of your pro

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Every one of your tissues could potentially fold the protein differently

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Then that means every one of your tissues could create a different set

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Of three-dimensional epitopes that your immune system would respond to which may not always necessarily be relevant to the virus

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Right

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And that was what would make an impure rna even more dangerous or

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The idea that the pseudo uridine

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Changes that have been made to it can result in spontaneous

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Stop codons or misread up codons

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And so then you'll have shortened

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Sequences that won't be folded correctly and again will be presenting the incorrect epitopes to the immune system

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So from a standpoint of of immunology, then you know, you're you're not creating

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Uh, you're not creating antibodies to the to the actual spike or there are enough contaminants that you're getting

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Sort of a full milieu of antibodies some that are maybe worthwhile some that are worthless

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What happens beyond that? What about cellular immune response?

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You know when you know one of the things I get concerned about

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And looking especially at a lot of the cardiac damage is that all these spike proteins are hanging out of the cardiac muscle

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And and they're just waiting for a tax. So would you know

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What would what would cellular immunity do to

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The cells that are expressing the spike proteins

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Well, I mean it's in the worst case scenarios app obtosis the best case scenario from inflammation, but that doesn't seem to be likely to me

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Um

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I think what what people should consider

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Is the action of the

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The action of the liposome or the liposomes what they are but leave you want to call them lip and nanoparticles

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Right

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The lip and nanoparticles the action of them

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Is going to occur where capillaries come to be the narrowest

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and you have to think of

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It's hard to imagine this if you're not imagining this all the time, but the surface area

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Of all of the capillaries in your body is immense

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That's the most likely place where

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The the lip and nanoparticles going to come in contact with a membrane and it's going to pass through

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So the most likely secondary target maybe even the primary target of these

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These lip and nanoparticles going to be endothelial cells somewhere

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Um, and when endothelial cells express the spike protein

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They're going to express the spike protein out into the plasma

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Right makes it very likely

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Shot after shot. This is why why secret bhakti and michael eden have said it would get so bad

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Is because on the first shot you don't have very many antibodies

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To the the funny new protein that's sticking out of your endothelial cells

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Right, just to might recognize it it might attack some of those endothelial cells

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Present this spike protein to t and v cells and maybe make some antibodies

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But the second time you get transvected and you have antibodies in circulation

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If those cells express the spike protein and antibody binds

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Now you can get instantaneous

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Uh, cytotoxicity from

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Cytotoxic t cells natural killer cells all of them can read that and then the worst part is

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Is that antibodies can cause the deposition of compliment?

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And so that means that you can start to have clotting happen and if that

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occurs

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In any of these capillary beds then you're going to have this

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Ongoing potential every time the spike protein is that you're exposed to it

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You could potentially have a clotting cascade occur

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And that's what sucrabakti has been calling these microclots. Right essentially

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It's happening on a on a microscopic scale, but at any point in time it could it could cascade into a full-on

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You know stroke type event

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Absolutely

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And I I love the way that you you've broken that down and explained that now the ramifications though

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Uh, you know and and I love the whole analogy

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You know or or talking about the surface area of the capillaries

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It makes so much sense that that's where the payload would get deposited is when these capillaries narrow

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um

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One of the things that has been

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um

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You know at least in our community

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Uh has been disseminated is the japanese-leaked

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Leaked information regarding the Pfizer vaccine and the bio distribution studies the Pfizer vaccine

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What are the ramifications? You know, I know you're you know, you're not a reproductive specialist

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But you know you see that the lipid nanoparticles or the liposomes

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Were also accused accumulating in the gametes of male and females

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You know primarily in the ovaries of males, but also in the testes are ovaries of females. Excuse me

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I do know the difference between male and female. I promise

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um, but um, but also the testes of males and so um

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What are the ramifications there? It just it it just seems astounding

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That for what we were told was going to stay in the upper arm

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That it makes it into so many different places of the the body where you would expect sort of disparate consequences

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Yeah, it gets tricky right because

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There are a number of

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Reasons to be worried again. I'm keep trying to separate all these layers the transfection itself

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Transfecting cells in your testes or in your ovaries

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Who knows what would what would happen there?

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But there's another thing

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That people are have been talking about for a while that I have been

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Maybe a little bit

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Pushing to the side because I want to make sure that people understand the transfection

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And it's greatest form would never work for what they wanted to work for right now

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But the lipid nanoparticle itself

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um

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Has a tendency they're like bubbles. They've been described as like, you know, soap bubbles or whatever, but they haven't really

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Adequately described how they can aggregate

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Um, and they can get a little bigger and become more toxic the larger they get

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um

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so the idea

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of them going to different places they're bringing the toxicity of the lipid nanoparticle which

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in vmo, I sorry in vitro has been shown to be able to

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mutate and and

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I don't know if it's if it cuts it or if it mutates it then then the repair causes

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That's it and then the repair is the mutation

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But it can nick dna it can make

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Okay, so having that in your gametes would also be bad from the perspective of whatever that lipid nanoparticle may or may not do

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um

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It is a it is a very concerning thing also that that same study showed that it goes to the bone marrow where

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Right here. You could have interaction with ongoing stem cell development or uh, uh, excuse me immature

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Um, immune cell development and who knows what kind of consequences that could have long term

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One of the things that i'm finding interesting is all these case studies and there hasn't been enough information yet really to do epidemiology

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But all these case studies on so-called turbo cancers

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Uh, and they're and they're primarily lymphomas

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Uh, i've seen a lot of photographic evidences of swelling and lymph nodes lymph nodes

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So limp lympho demopathy and then and then followed by tumors in the lymph nodes as well

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um

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What you know, you talk about nicking dna and that really kind of get my sense is going because I know dna damage

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To somatic cells leads to cancer

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Um, could could that be an explanation or could there be other explanations?

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Um, why we're seeing an uptick in certain forms of cancer

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So I think there are a number of different things the one thing I would first caution everybody and and and I would

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It comes first to mind

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Is this

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Leg and whatever we did with those first two years how many people should have gotten found early?

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Um and didn't um, I don't think it's that though

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um

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One thing to consider is the reports from early on with the sequence of the virus and specifically the spike protein included a sequence

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called dc sine

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which is a sequence which is kind of a

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uh

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a general

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Sequence match for an mhc

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That it's more or less a an antigen presenting cell stimulator

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Okay, well the idea would be

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that

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Imagine a scenario where you wanted to make a vaccine work really well

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But you knew that a protein doesn't really attract the immune system

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And it looks as a possibility that maybe

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Some epitopes were inserted into the spike protein to make them. Let's say more immunogenic

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Okay

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If that was the case

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um

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It's possible that when you over express this spike protein in your body and it happens to have this very generic

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antigen presenting cell stimulator, which is the mirror image. I believe of a T cell

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receptor

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Right

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You could have over activation of T cells if you have this much

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spike protein in your body and over activation of T cells is dangerous

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because

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there is a

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A yin in the yang that's going on in your body between the T cells that are fighting and the T cells that are tolerating

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If you think about your

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If you think about your immune system in a very broad sense, you should think about it pretty simply

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as

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something like this

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And so

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Here's you on the outside

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Here's your mouth. Oops. You can't see that. Here's your mouth

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And then here's the exit hole over here

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And this is your lungs

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Right

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And so this is the inside of your body or this stuff inside this being and stuff in like this being and everything else is on the

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Outside of your body and in fact your lungs are still the outside

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And in fact your GI tract is the outside of your body

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As if the tube

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So your immune system

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is actually organized

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around this barrier

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And you should always think about your immune system as organized around a barrier because

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The cells think of themselves as organized around a barrier

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And in fact that barrier has

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little

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Barracks right that are called

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lymph nodes

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And so it doesn't matter where you are in your body. It doesn't matter whether it's your lungs or whether it's in your gut or whether it's in your

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Your skin

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There are lymph nodes that feed and serve as a home base for the immune cells

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That that's that are defending this barrier whether it's your skin out of here

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Or whether it's the epithelium of your lungs

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Or whether it's the epithelium of your gut

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But the trick to remember

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Is that in your gut things have to come in

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And everywhere else things cannot come in

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Nobody's allowed to come in through your lungs. Nobody's allowed to come in through your skin

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And so there is a balance between the tolerance of the immune system

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in your gut

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And the intolerance of the immune system of everywhere else

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And if you think about a if you think about a

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a

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Respiratory pathogen the respiratory pathogen gets trapped in your mucus

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And then it goes down into your gut

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And so actually

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the immune response

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To a respiratory virus is the combination of the intolerant immune response in your lungs

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And the tolerant immune response in your gut

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And so you need

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T cells

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In your gut to be tolerant of the spike protein to balance

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Any T cells that are tolerant that are intolerant of the spike protein up here

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And the balance between those two T cells is what brings the crescendo of the immune system up during infection

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The day crescendo down

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As the infection declines and without that balance

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You're lost

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And now how in the world this is a bad drawing now, but if this is your inside

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If this is your inside how would injecting

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antigen

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Inside of the barrier of your immune system be a good way to augment

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And that's really the

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The reason why very lately on my streams i've been making the argument that we may

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Just need to think that intramuscular injection as a means of augmenting the immune system may not be very smart

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It may not work because it doesn't

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Engage this yin and yang of the of the intolerant and the tolerant waves of the immune system

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So there's a balance

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Between I I love the way that you explained that

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I'm i'm not an immunologist and i've never even taught immunology which

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You know in the university system depending on the size of your university you might wear many hats

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I never wore the immunologist hat, but um, so there's a balance between

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the T cells in the lungs and the T cells in the gut and so things

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In the gut presumably could slip through is that correct?

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They absolutely have to because all of your lipids come in through your lymph

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Right your lymph is actually really exposed near the payer's patches

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And so if you're going to absorb any fats they have to come in through your lymph

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And so that means that there is this real open to the

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outside

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portion of the immune system

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where

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Essentially all the nutrients have to pass through without triggering your immune system

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and so that

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happens over time as a person develops and

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Allergies occur because that process goes wrong

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Right, right

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What do you see um, you know, I I get really really concerned now that we're on the you know

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Who knows what booster we're on. I I I lost track and probably eighth booster or whatever

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The Cleveland Clinic studies showed that

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The more that individuals were vaccinated and boosted the higher their risk of getting COVID-19

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Was in fact, you know, if they received five or more vaccines

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I think that their risk of getting COVID-19 went up to about like 3.8

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Relative risk is compared to

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The unvaccinated in that group

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What are we doing to the innate immune system by just by all these different boosters?

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This is a good question. The innate immune system is a pretty enigmatic thing that i'm i'm still working to penetrate

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Right, right

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It's it. I think the

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The traditional explanation would be at least the not traditional one the one that makes the

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The most parsimonious sense to me is that with this abundance of antibodies

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Um

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You essentially are protecting the virus with antibodies that are for whatever reason unable

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To call in the immune system. And so we saw the paper for example

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Where there were iGG4, I believe antibodies. We essentially don't have a big fc

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Um portion of it. They're not going to call for the compliments. It's right. Right. Right and so they

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And they won't call in antigen presenting cells. They can't call in or or activate any other cells for any other cascade

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And so what that can often do

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Is protect the virus. So if every

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Virus that gets covered in this non active antibody

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Is immune to the compliment system then it can float around a lot farther in the system

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And infect a cell farther away from where it was released

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Um

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At least that's the cartoon model that virology has told us many times with regard to like dengue fever

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and other

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vaccination

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And then subsequent disease enhancement is because the antibodies in some way or another contribute to the virus's success

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So

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It's a tricky scenario because we don't know

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um

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Even to what extent how homogenous all of these people who have been transfected are because

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Um, I think you're aware of this. It's becoming pretty clear that there was no

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No quality control. So some doses were hot

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Other sorry some lots were hot and other lots were almost placebo

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And

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In reality going forward it may even be who these people to lower the doses around the world just to

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to throw people off and so

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At this stage, I mean what what can we really know for sure?

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um other than

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Then that these these systems their systems have been damaged

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right and and it's uh

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It's a such a

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It's such a magnificent thing if you think about the idea that your immune system learns

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What self is and what?

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Non-self is but more importantly what's what's intolerable?

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Non-self and what's tolerable non-self

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And the idea that we can just augment this willy nilly

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Um has been a a thing that's drilled into all of us for many many, you know probably decades

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But it's really actually I don't think true

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I love that conclusion. I you know and and I love your comments also about

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You know doing an iam injection

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Where you're bypassing the barriers where you're bypassing the barriers of the lung bypassing the barriers of the guide

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Uh, you know, I think that's such a strong point

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Uh that you know that can't be overemphasized

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What about germline effects?

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I get concerned you you look I look at VAERS

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And and it's a database that I look at with regularity

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and the there there's a special category and VAERS for fertility disorders

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And the number of fertility disorders that are associated

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with the COVID-19 vaccine are 10 times

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All the rest of the reports of fertility disorders for the rest of the 32-year history of VAERS

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And so that's really really

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Stark. I mean that you know that is that's quite an indictment

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From from a physiological standpoint from an

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Immunological standpoint, what would you expect to find you know if all of a sudden you've got gametes that are expressing spike protein

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Um, you know and and that carry over into you know trying to get pregnant

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Um, uh, and I think that then trying to have a viable pregnancy

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I think the danger was originally highlighted by a man by the name of michael eden who found a quite large homogeny with this uh,

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protein synchatin

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Synchatin. Yeah, and that's a protein which

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um people may be aware that

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when membranes bind you need to have a protein that brings them together and

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It may surprise people but actually many of our

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proteins at the cellular level are homologous with proteins that viruses use

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and for purposes of

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of the

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the

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Deposition of the I believe of the egg in the

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In the uterus for example, the implantation requires a protein that's very similar to sync to

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a viral spike protein called synchatin

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So the idea and I could be saying it wrong, but I believe it's synchatin anyway that protein

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if

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if women

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When they are transfected build antibodies which cannot

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adequately specify and they you know they bind to this protein and it would be

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A thing where you have built autoimmunity which will effectively prevent pregnancy

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um if you build autoimmunity

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um to any of these tissues which express this

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This protein as a result of the immune response because that's the trick brian

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every time

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The immune response is is forced to clear

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Your tissue if it's your thiele cells for example

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There is a chance that

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an antigen presenting cell

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Will decide to present a self antigen and it will find a T cell that recognizes it's not very likely

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Right, but the idea is

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You know, if if if the gun has in as finite number of chambers, you don't want to play rush and roulette

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And this is one of those scenarios

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where

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We cannot

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Augment the immune system this way and expect

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That the immune system isn't going to make a mistake

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um by sending this

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Transfection all throughout the body and challenging the immune system not to make any mistakes. It's just a very very bad idea

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Incredible absolutely incredible you've you've brought up so many so many important salient issues

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Not only with the mRNA vaccines, but the adenovirus vector vaccines

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um i'm so appreciative that of that

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Where can we see more of you?

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Where is your where is your youtube channel? It's called giga ohm biological. Is that correct?

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Yes, and i'm on this

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It's basically a gaming platform called twitch twitch right i'm going to move back on youtube shortly

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But as of right now, it still feels like um my stuff is too hard hitting for youtube and they let me hide on twitch

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Um, I also have a rumble channel with the same name and so you can find replays there as well. Okay. I appreciate it jay

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Thank you so much for joining us today

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Uh, appreciate your knowledge and insight and welcome to chd

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Thank you very much brian as a pleasure to be here and uh honor to work with you

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All right, and thank you everybody for joining us for this episode of doctors and scientists

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You heard it here first enjoy the rest of your morning

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You

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Hi chd friends, it's me mary holland president of children's health defense

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I reached out to you just a week ago, but i'm reaching out again because so much has happened

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The fda has authorized a new round of coded shots for a variant that's already gone

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And they only tested it on 20 mice

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No control group, no human testing and with no emergency in sight

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Public health officials authorized these shots for emergency use for babies as young as six months

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Folks, this is the very definition of a morality

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They're pulling out all the stops because we're winning and they're desperate

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We're winning in courts around the country and around the world

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And we're winning where it counts most in the court of public opinion

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And that's why your support right now makes such a difference

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Thanks to our generous supporters. We're running a million dollar match campaign this month

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So as the cdc launches, it's wild to mild campaign to hype flu vaccines for adults pregnant women and children

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With the promise of keeping everyone safe from a bad case of the flu

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And while they use your tax dollars to push dangerous hpv vaccines

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Unvulnerable low-income minority teens and as california's health department threatens to defund schools that have a low

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Student vaccination rate without a shred of scientific evidence on their side

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The fda and cdc want you to believe it's now perfectly safe to get a flu

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COVID and rsv shot all at the same time the evidence speaks for itself

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They are desperate

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Desperate to keep you and me in a perpetual state of fear

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And desperate to protect the obscenely lucrative profits from their vaccine pipeline

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And like i said, they're desperate because we are winning

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Using a legal theory chd advanced and appeals court rule last week that government officials almost certainly violated the first amendment

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When they pressured tech platforms to censor posts on social media, even those that were absolutely true that went against the official narrative

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The new york supreme court just ordered new york city officials to reinstate 10 teachers with back pay

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Who refused the covid shots chd brought that lawsuit with your donations

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These are big wins and the more we win the more they ratchet up

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Now is the time to prove that with each attack on our freedoms on our health on our children

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We grow stronger and more resolute

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